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CITY OF TAMPA
DECEMBER 5, 2019
9:00 A.M.


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9:03:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

9:03:33AM INVOCATION.

9:03:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, TODAY WE HAVE

9:03:43AM WITH US MR. JUSTIN LAROSA, WHO IS ONE OF THE MINISTERS AT

9:03:47AM THE HYDE PARK UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

9:03:50AM HE SERVED AS DIRECTOR OF THE PORTICO AND THE MINISTER OF THE

9:03:55AM SUNDAY EVENING CONGREGATION.

9:03:57AM THE PORTICO PROVIDES GATHERING SPACES AND SPIRITUAL

9:04:00AM OPPORTUNITIES THAT FOCUS ON CONVERSATION, CONNECTION, AND

9:04:03AM COMMUNITY CHANGE.

9:04:03AM THE PORTICO CAFE IS ON SITE, WHICH IS A CAFE THAT IS NOT

9:04:08AM ONLY PROVIDING AMAZING COFFEE, FOOD AND SPACE FOR GROUP

9:04:12AM EVENTS, BUT IT IS ENTIRELY STAFFED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE

9:04:17AM FORMERLY HOMELESS, ADDICTED OR INCARCERATED, OFFERING PEOPLE

9:04:20AM OPPORTUNITIES TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES.

9:04:22AM IT IS AN AUTHOR AND LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER WITH

9:04:27AM PART-TIME PRIVATE PRACTICE.




9:04:28AM HIS GREATEST JOYS ARE HIS WIFE AND HIS TWO TEENAGE

9:04:32AM DAUGHTERS.

9:04:32AM MR. LAROSA, WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US THE INVOCATION.

9:04:35AM IF EVERYBODY COULD PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE

9:04:38AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

9:04:39AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:04:40AM LET'S PRAY.

9:04:44AM GOD OF MANY NAMES, WE GATHER IN YOUR PRESENCE THIS MORNING,

9:04:50AM CENTERING OURSELVES ON YOUR GOODNESS.

9:04:53AM WE COME WITH OPEN MINDS AND GRATEFUL HEARTS OFFERING THANKS

9:04:57AM FOR THE VERY LIVES THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, THIS CITY AND THE

9:05:01AM OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

9:05:02AM THANK YOU FOR ENGAGED CITIZENS.

9:05:05AM THANK YOU FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, THEIR AIDES AND ALL THE

9:05:09AM SUPPORT STAFF, THE MAYOR AND ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK

9:05:11AM BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE TAMPA FUNCTION AND THRIVE.

9:05:16AM WE PRAY FOR DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS AND WORKERS AND THOSE

9:05:20AM CITIZENS WHO ADVOCATE AND INVEST THEIR TIME AND TALENT TO

9:05:24AM BUILD A MORE INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE CITY.

9:05:27AM THE HEBREW SCRIPTURE IMPLORES US TO SEEK THE WELFARE OF THE

9:05:33AM CITY AND IT REMINDS US OVER AND OVER AGAIN NOT TO FORGET THE

9:05:35AM NEEDS OF THE POOR.

9:05:36AM COME TO OUR ASSISTANCE AS WE DEAL WITH THE STRUGGLE OF

9:05:39AM ADEQUATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

9:05:40AM KEEP US MINDFUL OF THE PEOPLE AND FAMILIES WHO ARE SPENDING




9:05:43AM MORE THAN HALF OF THEIR WAGES ON HOUSING AND THOSE WHO DON'T

9:05:48AM HAVE A PLACE TO LAY THEIR HEAD.

9:05:50AM HELP THIS COUNCIL AND ALL THAT ARE HERE CONSTRUCT A CITY

9:05:52AM THAT BUILDS ON OUR MANY STRENGTHS AND TAKES CARE OF ALL OF

9:05:57AM ITS RESIDENTS.

9:05:57AM WE HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE ASTUTE DISCERNMENT, CLARITY

9:06:01AM AND DIRECTION TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AS THEY PROCESS THE

9:06:05AM MANY ISSUES AND REPORTS, ALLOW THEIR DISCUSSIONS TO BE

9:06:07AM PRODUCTIVE AND RESPECTFUL EVEN AMIDST DISAGREEMENT, BEING

9:06:10AM CENTERED ON YOUR GOODNESS.

9:06:13AM WE THANK YOU AND IGNITE US TO BE THE PEOPLE YOU CALLED US TO

9:06:15AM BE.

9:06:15AM I PRAY THESE THINGS IN CHRIST JESUS, AMEN.

9:06:18AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

9:06:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL.

9:06:37AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

9:06:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

9:06:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

9:06:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

9:06:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

9:06:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

9:06:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

9:06:47AM WE'RE GOING TO GO TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

9:06:54AM BEFORE WE GO THERE, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF OUR

9:06:58AM SENTIMENTS AND SYMPATHIES TO OUR FRIEND AND OUR COLLEAGUE,




9:07:01AM JOHN DINGFELDER AND YOUR FAMILY, FOR YOUR LATE FATHER.

9:07:06AM GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.

9:07:07AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

9:07:09AM DAD WAS A GREAT GUY.

9:07:12AM HE'S THE REASON I'M HERE.

9:07:13AM HE WAS A LEADER -- A LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY.

9:07:16AM EVERYTHING HE JOINED HE BECAME PRESIDENT OF.

9:07:18AM HE WILL BE MISSED GREATLY.

9:07:21AM I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENTS FROM CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL AND

9:07:24AM EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

9:07:25AM THANK YOU.

9:07:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

9:07:27AM GOD BLESS YOU.

9:07:27AM NEXT, WE MOVE TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

9:07:30AM I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED.

9:07:34AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD ONE, CORRECT?

9:07:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 12.

9:07:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, 12.

9:07:40AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD 24 THROUGH 27, 30 AND 32, IS

9:07:41AM THAT CORRECT?

9:07:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.

9:07:45AM THAT'S NOT A HOSTILE PULL.

9:07:47AM IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY FAVORABLE PULL.

9:07:49AM I ALSO WOULD ASK THAT WE CONTINUE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE,

9:07:54AM THERE'S ITEM 54, WHICH IS SORT OF A SUSTAINABILITY REPORT.




9:08:01AM I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE SCHEDULED FOR

9:08:03AM FEBRUARY 6th.

9:08:05AM SO WHY DON'T WE JUST COMBINE IT ALL.

9:08:07AM HOPEFULLY MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER BY THEN,

9:08:10AM AND WE CAN SORT OF GET GOING ON THOSE ISSUES.

9:08:14AM I MOVE ITEM 54 TO BE COMBINED WITH THE SAME ITEM ON

9:08:17AM FEBRUARY 6.

9:08:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, A

9:08:20AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

9:08:22AM ANY IN FAVOR?

9:08:24AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:08:24AM I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I MAY, I KNOW WE HAVE F.D.O.T. HERE ON

9:08:28AM TIME-LIMITED BASIS FOR 52, THE BUSCH BOULEVARD, TO BE MOVED

9:08:35AM AFTER 3, IF I MAY.

9:08:36AM SOMETHING SO MOVED.

9:08:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:08:40AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

9:08:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?

9:08:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, I BELIEVE MS. WELLS HAS A REQUEST

9:08:48AM TO PUT THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL ON NOTICE AS TO AN ITEM THAT

9:08:52AM IS COMING UP THAT HAS TO BE HANDLED AT 10:30.

9:08:55AM >>CATE WELLS: ITEM 47 IS AN APPLICATION FOR BRICK STREET

9:08:59AM REMOVAL.

9:09:00AM WHEN YOU OPEN THAT ITEM AT 10:30, IF YOU CAN CONTINUE IT TO

9:09:05AM FEBRUARY 6th, 2020.




9:09:07AM THE REASON BEING, WE ARE NEGOTIATING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

9:09:10AM THAT IS RELATED TO THAT PROJECT, AND WE WOULD LIKE BOTH

9:09:14AM ITEMS TO BE CONSIDERED AT THE SAME TIME.

9:09:16AM I SPOKE WITH TYLER HUDSON, COUNSEL FOR THE DEVELOPER, AND HE

9:09:19AM IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REQUEST TO CONTINUE.

9:09:22AM THANK YOU.

9:09:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: SHOULD THAT MOTION BE MADE AT THIS TIME?

9:09:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO 10:30 OR WHENEVER IT COMES UP.

9:09:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

9:09:29AM ANYTHING ELSE FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, GENTLEMEN?

9:09:31AM OKAY.

9:09:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:09:33AM LET'S MOVE NOW TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.

9:09:35AM TO NUMBER 1 FOR OUR ATU LOCAL 1464 EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

9:09:42AM I DO WISH TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

9:09:44AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?

9:09:46AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:09:47AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:09:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?

9:09:51AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:09:52AM COUNCILMAN GUDES IS COMING UP FOR OUR CITY OF TAMPA ATU

9:09:57AM LOCAL 1464 EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

9:10:00AM IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECENTLY STARTED SO THAT WE CAN

9:10:02AM MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEES ARE BEING

9:10:06AM HONORED HERE BEFORE COUNCIL.




9:10:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

9:10:19AM IT IS MY PLEASURE, YOU KNOW, I KNEW WE HAD THIS COMING UP

9:10:25AM THIS MORNING.

9:10:27AM YOU READ SO MUCH STUFF, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THE LAST NAME

9:10:31AM ON THE COMMENDATION.

9:10:35AM DIDN'T REALIZE IT.

9:10:36AM THEN I SEE YOU THIS MORNING -- YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD WHEN YOU

9:10:39AM CAN GIVE A COMMENDATION OR A GOOD CHEER TO SOMEONE YOU

9:10:42AM ACTUALLY KNOW, THAT YOU KNOW DOING FROM WORK, HAS BEEN

9:10:45AM WORKING WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE STEP PROGRAMS

9:10:48AM YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

9:10:50AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AT OLD PARK OR NOT, BUT I KNOW WHAT

9:10:53AM YOU'VE BEEN DOING OUT THERE AND THE OTHER ACTIVITY YOU'VE

9:10:56AM BEEN DOING IN THE CITY.

9:10:57AM IT IS A GREAT HONOR TO BESTOW ON YOU A COMMENDATION OF TAMPA

9:11:01AM CITY COUNCIL AS THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

9:11:04AM AGAIN, IT IS A GREAT HONOR THAT I DO THIS.

9:11:09AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO BEVERLY, ATU LOCAL 1464

9:11:14AM EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

9:11:16AM PROUDLY COMMENDS BEVERLY AS THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

9:11:20AM SHE IS A STERLING EXAMPLE OF HIGH-QUALITY EMPLOYEES THAT THE

9:11:23AM ATU PROVIDES TO KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.

9:11:26AM THAT IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HARD JOB.

9:11:30AM RECREATION LEADER OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

9:11:34AM SHE HAS SERVED AT LEAST TWO GENERATION OF YOUTH AND IS




9:11:38AM ALWAYS SEEKING TO EMPOWER YOUNG PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY YOUNG

9:11:41AM GIRLS AND CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

9:11:42AM NOT ONLY DOES SHE HAVE DEEP COMPASSION FOR SERVING CHILDREN,

9:11:48AM SHE IS A GO-GETTER AND PROBLEM SOLVER WHO NEVER HESITATES TO

9:11:54AM PUT IN A SMILE.

9:11:55AM THROUGH DEDICATED WORK, SHE HAS MADE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON

9:11:58AM THE LIVES OF COUNTLESS YOUNG PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY.

9:12:02AM THIS COMMENDATION THIS 5th DAY OF DECEMBER, 2019.

9:12:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:12:17AM THEN WE WILL GET TO THE GOOD FINALE, THE GOODIES.

9:12:26AM >> BEVERLY HIGDEN HAS BEEN EMPLOYED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

9:12:31AM FOR 19 YEARS.

9:12:32AM SHE WORKED AT VARIOUS COMMUNITY CENTERS, HIGHLAND PINES,

9:12:36AM JACKSON HEIGHTS AND CURRENTLY BASED AT OAK PARK COMMUNITY

9:12:39AM CENTER.

9:12:40AM DURING HER TENURE WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT,

9:12:43AM SHE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS INSPIRATION TO ALL THOSE SHE WORKS

9:12:46AM WITH, AS WELL AS THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY.

9:12:48AM BEVERLY HAS TOUCHED MANY LIVES FROM YOUTH TO SENIORS,

9:12:52AM OUTGOING, ENERGETIC AND HELPFUL DEMEANOR ALLOWS HER TO HAVE

9:12:57AM INFLUENCE ON OUR YOUTH IN OUR RECREATION PROGRAMS AS WELL AS

9:12:59AM BEING ABLE TO LEAD AND GUIDE OUR ACTIVE SENIORS IN THE

9:13:03AM COMMUNITY.

9:13:03AM BEVERLY HAS BEEN AN EXEMPLARY EMPLOYEE, AND SHE IS A TRUE

9:13:08AM EXAMPLE THAT KEEPS IN LINE WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION




9:13:11AM DEPARTMENT VISION AND MISSION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS

9:13:14AM AND FOR THE RECREATION AND LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES TO BENEFIT

9:13:16AM THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF ALL THE CITIZENS THAT WE SERVE.

9:13:20AM ON THAT NOTE, IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU FROM ATU

9:13:26AM LOCAL 1464 WITH A COMBO OF GIFT CARD PACKAGE FOR DINNER AND

9:13:30AM A MOVIE.

9:13:32AM >> ALL RIGHT.

9:13:32AM THANK YOU.

9:13:38AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:13:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:13:43AM ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, FOUR COMPLIMENTARY TICKETS FOR

9:13:58AM ADMISSION.

9:13:59AM ON BEHALF OF PATRICK'S -- DOUBLETREE TWO-NIGHT STAY.

9:14:13AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:14:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE HAVE STEPP'S TOWING AND

9:14:30AM MR. MICHELINI AS WELL.

9:14:31AM MORE GIFTS.

9:14:32AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.

9:14:32AM JOB WELL DONE.

9:14:33AM YOU DESERVE IT.

9:14:35AM ON BEHALF OF STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE, $50 CHEESECAKE FACTORY

9:14:40AM GIFT CARD.

9:14:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:14:45AM >> OH, MY GOD, I'M OVERWHELMED.

9:14:49AM >> IT'S NOT OVER.




9:14:52AM >> YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE?

9:14:54AM WHAT'S BEHIND DOOR NUMBER 3?

9:14:58AM [ LAUGHTER ]

9:14:59AM >> RETIREMENT.

9:14:59AM [ LAUGHTER ]

9:15:03AM >> HERE'S DOOR NUMBER ONE.

9:15:05AM YOU CAN GO ENJOY YOURSELF AT DINNER AT FORBICI ITALIAN

9:15:10AM RESTAURANT.

9:15:11AM DOOR NUMBER TWO, GOING TO ENJOY YOURSELF AT YUMMY HOUSE

9:15:15AM CHINA BISTRO.

9:15:17AM DOOR NUMBER THREE, CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP.

9:15:23AM AND THERE IS A GIFT CERTIFICATE.

9:15:25AM ENJOY YOURSELF.

9:15:27AM >> THANK YOU.

9:15:35AM >> FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HONOR TO GOD WHO IS THE HEAD

9:15:38AM OF MY LIFE.

9:15:39AM IF IT WASN'T FOR HIM, I COULDN'T HAVE DONE EVERYTHING I'M

9:15:42AM DOING.

9:15:43AM TO MY COWORKERS, TO MY SENIORS ON THE MOVE AND TO MY PARENTS

9:15:46AM AND MY FAMILY, I LOVE YOU AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

9:15:50AM BUILDING ME TO BE THE PERSON THAT I AM.

9:15:53AM THAT, MERRY CHRISTMAS.

9:15:54AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:16:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT ALL STARTS

9:16:15AM IN OUR COMMUNITIES WITH OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT.




9:16:18AM YOU KNOW, MR. MIRANDA SAID IT BEST, THE JOY OF THE START OF

9:16:23AM YOUNG PEOPLE, IT STARTS IN THE COMMUNITIES WITH OUR PARKS

9:16:27AM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

9:16:29AM YOU CAN LOOK AT SEWER, WATER, BUT IT STARTS IN THOSE

9:16:31AM COMMUNITIES.

9:16:32AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SENIORS ARE HERE.

9:16:33AM THEY ARE VERY VOCAL IN OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'VE GONE

9:16:36AM THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

9:16:41AM A SHOUT-OUT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR THE

9:16:43AM JOB THEY ARE DOING.

9:16:44AM THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

9:16:46AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:16:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL?

9:16:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU.

9:17:04AM I HAD THE HONOR.

9:17:06AM SONYA INVITED ME TO YOUR-ALL'S RECREATION HOLIDAY PARTY A

9:17:10AM WEEK OR TWO AGO.

9:17:12AM IT WAS SO MUCH FUN AND SO MUCH ENTHUSIASM IN YOUR GROUP.

9:17:15AM AND I SEE YOU BROUGHT IT WITH YOU, BUT WE APPRECIATE.

9:17:19AM YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS, WE LOVED THE POLICE.

9:17:23AM WE LOVED THE FIRE.

9:17:24AM FOR YEARS I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY WE DIDN'T HONOR THE REST OF

9:17:27AM THE EMPLOYEES.

9:17:28AM I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU GUYS DECIDED TO DO THIS, AND YOU'RE I

9:17:34AM THINK OUR THIRD HONOREE AND WELL DESERVED.




9:17:37AM NOW, THE QUESTION IS, YOU BROUGHT ALL THESE FOLKS WITH YOU.

9:17:40AM WHICH ONES ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE TO THE DINNER HERE AND

9:17:42AM THERE?

9:17:43AM [ LAUGHTER ]

9:17:43AM CONGRATULATIONS, MS. BEVERLY.

9:17:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN THE WORDS OF SISTER SLEDGE, "WE ARE

9:17:56AM FAMILY."

9:17:57AM AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S

9:18:00AM FAMILY.

9:18:01AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

9:18:02AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:18:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

9:18:07AM THINGS SOMETIMES GO UNNOTICED AND IT'S BEEN UNNOTICED FOR

9:18:11AM MANY YEARS.

9:18:11AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH YOUR WHOLE DEPARTMENT.

9:18:14AM NEXT SATURDAY, I BELIEVE, NOT THIS SATURDAY BUT THE

9:18:17AM FOLLOWING SATURDAY IS THE BIG DANCE.

9:18:20AM ALL OF YOU WOMEN BRING YOUR DANCING SHOES BECAUSE I'LL BE

9:18:24AM READY.

9:18:26AM >> THANK YOU.

9:18:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

9:18:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM, FOR ALL YOUR HARD

9:18:31AM WORK.

9:18:31AM WE BEGAN THIS SO WE COULD MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA

9:18:35AM EMPLOYEES WERE HONORED, WHERE WE RESPECT WORK, WE RESPECT




9:18:38AM THE TIME THAT GOES INTO WORK.

9:18:40AM WE RESPECT THE SACRIFICES YOU MAKE IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE AND

9:18:42AM WITH YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR WORK.

9:18:44AM WE'RE HERE TO RESPECT YOU TODAY.

9:18:46AM THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND MERRY CHRISTMAS.

9:18:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:18:50AM OKAY.

9:18:52AM NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 2, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

9:18:56AM CONGA CALIENTE.

9:19:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF

9:19:31AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, IT IS MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO MAKE A

9:19:33AM PRESENTATION TO SOMETHING THAT STARTED BACK IN 2004.

9:19:36AM IN FACT, THE FIRST EVENT THAT THIS FINE FAMILY MEMBERS

9:19:40AM BROUGHT TOGETHER ATTENDED A WHOLE WHOPPING 200 PEOPLE.

9:19:45AM I THINK THERE'S A VIDEO THAT IS ON THE RECORD TO BE PLAYED.

9:19:49AM IF THEY COULD PUT IT ON NOW, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

9:19:52AM ¶ CALIENTE, CONGA ¶

9:20:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS ABOUT CONGA CALIENTE AND WHAT

9:20:11AM THEY ARE AND WHO THEY ARE.

9:20:12AM THEY STARTED IN 2004 WITH ONLY 200.

9:20:17AM AFTER THAT, IT HAS GROWN AN AVERAGE OF 60,000 PEOPLE AT AL

9:20:21AM LOPEZ PARK.

9:20:22AM THE BEST PRICE ABOUT IT IS THE PRICE IS VERY REASONABLE.

9:20:25AM EXTREMELY REASONABLE BECAUSE IT IS FREE.

9:20:29AM AND WHEN THEY GET TOGETHER, IT'S NOT ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE




9:20:32AM YOU SEE HERE.

9:20:33AM IT'S NOT ABOUT THE STAGE.

9:20:34AM IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST THE MUSIC.

9:20:36AM IT'S ABOUT THE ARTS.

9:20:37AM THEY HAVE A SECTION TO SHOW WHAT YOU ARTS CAN DO TO YOUNG

9:20:41AM INDIVIDUAL'S MINDS.

9:20:43AM EDUCATION, THEY SHOW YOU WHAT IT IS TO HAVE AN EDUCATION.

9:20:46AM IT'S ABOUT YOURSELF AND HOW YOU TAKE YOURSELF WHEN YOU GO

9:20:50AM AND FIND OUT ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL HEALTH

9:20:54AM AND HOW TO GET YOUR COMPLETE LIFE VERY HEALTHY.

9:20:57AM PLEASURE TO HAVE MARISSA AND ALEX CODA, ALONG WITH THE CODA

9:21:04AM FAMILY HERE.

9:21:06AM THE SOLID PARTNERS BEHIND THE WHOLE SHOW.

9:21:10AM IT'S MY PLEASURE TO WATCH THIS VIDEO WITH YOU.

9:21:13AM I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MAYOR.

9:21:17AM IT'S THE FIRST SUNDAY OF NOVEMBER.

9:21:24AM AND NEXT YEAR, IT FALLS ON NOVEMBER THE 1st ON SUNDAY.

9:21:28AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL HAVE IT THE --

9:21:31AM >> DEPENDS ON THE BUCCANEERS BECAUSE OF THE STADIUM AND THE

9:21:34AM PARKING.

9:21:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBER MAYOR BUCKHORN SAYING THAT

9:21:37AM HISPANIC MONTH DOESN'T END UNTIL CONGA CALIENTE PLAYS THE

9:21:43AM LAST NOTE.

9:21:43AM THIS STARTED UNDER MAYOR IORIO.

9:21:47AM >> YES, IT DID.




9:21:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THESE FOUR

9:21:50AM INDIVIDUALS, ESPECIALLY THESE TWO, ALEX CODA DOES THE

9:21:53AM PRODUCTION AND THE SOUND AND FANTASTIC.

9:21:56AM ALEX CODA, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, WAS ONE OF THE FIRST

9:21:59AM ORIGINATORS WHO WORKED AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE HOTEL WHERE HE

9:22:04AM DID ALL OF THE SOUND PRODUCTION AT THE FINE OPERATION THAT

9:22:06AM WAS THERE MANY YEARS.

9:22:08AM ANOTHER TAMPANIAN, GABBY GABRIEL WAS THE LEAD SINGER THERE.

9:22:13AM THEY BRING INDIVIDUALS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, FROM

9:22:15AM PANAMA, FROM DOMINICA, CUBA, VENEZUELA, COSTA RICA, FROM ALL

9:22:22AM THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE THE TOP PERFORMERS.

9:22:25AM THEY BRING FOUR OR FIVE GROUPS EVERY YEAR.

9:22:27AM AGAIN, IT'S FREE.

9:22:28AM THEY HAVE DONE SUCH AN OUTSTANDING JOB THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT

9:22:31AM IT, THEY HAVE IN THE 15 YEARS OR SO HAVE DRAWN BETWEEN 900

9:22:36AM TO A MILLION PEOPLE AT THE AL LOPEZ PARK FOR FREE.

9:22:40AM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN ACCOMPLISH OR

9:22:44AM ANYONE CAN EVER DO.

9:22:45AM IT IS THE LARGEST HISPANIC CELEBRATION IN THE WHOLE TAMPA

9:22:50AM AREA, THAT INCLUDES ST. PETE, CLEARWATER, PLANT CITY, ALL

9:22:54AM THE AREAS AROUND US.

9:22:56AM IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY.

9:22:58AM THEY HAVE THE ARTS WITH DOMINOES.

9:23:01AM THEY HAVE DOMINOES TOURNAMENTS.

9:23:03AM DOMINOES, YOU LEARN HOW TO PLAY, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY LUCKY




9:23:06AM TO WIN.

9:23:07AM I SEE CHAMPIONS WHO GET DEFEATED BY INDIVIDUALS WHO KNOW

9:23:10AM VERY LITTLE.

9:23:11AM IT IS THE LUCK OF THE DRAW HOW YOU PICK UP YOUR DOMINOES AND

9:23:14AM LAY THEM DOWN.

9:23:15AM IT IS MY PLEASURE TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION TO MARITZA AND

9:23:19AM ALEX FOR THEIR CONTINUED CONGA CALIENTE, WHICH I SAID IS A

9:23:23AM WONDERFUL EVENT.

9:23:24AM IT'S FOR FREE.

9:23:25AM IT'S A FAMILY OPERATION.

9:23:26AM YOU SEE FAMILIES WITH KIDS, GRANDPARENTS, AUNTS AND UNCLES.

9:23:30AM THEY ALL GO TOGETHER AS A GROUP.

9:23:32AM SOMETHING SOMETIMES IN SOCIETY WE HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH.

9:23:35AM WE'VE BECOME LONERS AND TECHNICIANS OF TALKING ON THE CELL

9:23:40AM PHONE TO YOURSELF.

9:23:41AM THAT'S HOW BAD WE'VE GOTTEN.

9:23:42AM IT IS MY PLEASURE, MARITZA TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO

9:23:45AM YOU BASED ON THE CITY COUNCIL, TO YOU AND ALEX, FOR WHAT

9:23:49AM YOU'VE DONE FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS.

9:23:51AM IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

9:23:53AM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, BECAUSE I KNOW YOUR PARENTS HELP YOU A

9:23:58AM LOT.

9:23:59AM IT IS MY PLEASURE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND THE

9:24:01AM FLOOR IS YOURS.

9:24:03AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.




9:24:03AM >> THANK YOU.

9:24:03AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:24:07AM >> YEARS HAVE GONE BY, SO NOW I WEAR GLASSES.

9:24:11AM IF YOU BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE BIT, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A

9:24:15AM LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

9:24:16AM CONGA CALIENTE, THE PARKS AND RECREATION HAD A FESTIVAL

9:24:20AM CALLED INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL.

9:24:22AM AS CHARLIE WAS SAYING, IT HAD BEEN ABOUT 200 PEOPLE.

9:24:26AM MAYOR IORIO, THROUGH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, PARTICULARLY

9:24:32AM NEILA MENENDEZ DECIDED THAT THERE WAS TIME FOR INTERNATIONAL

9:24:36AM FESTIVAL TO MAYBE GROW AND BECOME SOMETHING THAT WAS FOR THE

9:24:42AM HISPANIC COMMUNITY TO CELEBRATE ARTS AND CULTURE.

9:24:46AM WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT THEY CAME TO US TO ASK US TO

9:24:49AM PUT THIS TOGETHER.

9:24:49AM NILO, MYSELF AND ALEX WENT TO AL LOPEZ PARK.

9:24:53AM ALEX CHOSE THE PARK.

9:24:55AM IT HAD TO BE IN THE PARK, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT WAS PARKS

9:24:57AM AND REC.

9:24:58AM WE CHOSE AL LOPEZ PARK BECAUSE IT WAS AL LOPEZ, NAMED AFTER

9:25:02AM AL LOPEZ AND IN WEST TAMPA.

9:25:04AM PERFECT PARK.

9:25:04AM WE ALL TALKED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, RAISE MONEY.

9:25:08AM ALEX INSISTED IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE FREE AS MUCH AS WE

9:25:11AM COULD BECAUSE IT WAS TO BE ABLE TO BRING FAMILIES TOGETHER

9:25:14AM AND IT HAPPENED.




9:25:15AM SO WE PLANNED THE FIRST FESTIVAL AND NILO SAID MAYOR WOULD

9:25:20AM BE HAPPY IF WE HAD A THOUSAND PEOPLE.

9:25:22AM I SAID, OH, MY GOSH, WE HAVE TO BRING 1500 AND 20,000 PEOPLE

9:25:27AM SHOWED UP TO THE FIRST CONGA CALIENTE.

9:25:30AM TOM BERRY, HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

9:25:35AM INSTEAD OF EXPLAINING ABOUT IT, TPD SAID, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE

9:25:38AM GOING TO DO NEXT YEAR.

9:25:40AM IN ORDER TO PUT IT TOGETHER WE NEEDED SUPPORT AND NEEDED

9:25:42AM HELP.

9:25:42AM WE WENT TO THE TIMES.

9:25:44AM DONNA WHO IS NOW WITH PARKS AND REC WAS THE FIRST PERSON ON

9:25:47AM BOARD -- THE TRIBUNE, EXCUSE ME.

9:25:50AM TAMPA TRIBUNE WAS ON BOARD AND SUPPORT US.

9:25:53AM THEN WE WENT TO BAY NEWS 9 AND DEBBIE SAID WE'RE ON IT.

9:25:57AM WITH THE SUPPORT OF ALL THE PEOPLE WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THIS

9:25:59AM TOGETHER.

9:25:59AM THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE.

9:26:00AM OUR FAMILY, OF COURSE.

9:26:01AM OUR PARENTS, THE MORGADOS, RANDY, ALEXIS, THE GIRLS,

9:26:06AM BASICALLY GREW UP IN THERE.

9:26:08AM BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME TOGETHER TO DO

9:26:10AM THIS.

9:26:11AM I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS EVENT IS A CITY EVENT AS

9:26:16AM WELL.

9:26:17AM IT WAS BORN OUT OF THE CITY.




9:26:18AM IT WAS BORN FOR A PURPOSE, TO BE A QUALITY EVENT FOR THE

9:26:22AM FAMILY.

9:26:23AM AND IT'S BEEN OUR HONOR.

9:26:25AM IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT OUR BUSINESS IS.

9:26:27AM WE DO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO.

9:26:28AM OUR BUSINESS IS PRODUCTION FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

9:26:30AM IT'S ABOUT AN HONOR TO DO THIS.

9:26:33AM IF IT WEREN'T FOR PEOPLE LIKE THE MAYORS ALONG THE WAY, THE

9:26:36AM SUPPORT WE GET FROM THE AL LOPEZ STAFF AND CHARLIE AND MARY,

9:26:42AM YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LOVE AND IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE PEOPLE

9:26:49AM ENJOY THEMSELVES.

9:26:49AM AND SOMETIMES WE'VE TOPPED 60,000 PEOPLE AND WE HAVE BECOME

9:26:55AM ONE OF THE TOP EVENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

9:26:57AM IT'S A GREAT DESTINATION EVENT.

9:27:00AM IT'S NOW EXPECTED, IT'S PART OF TRADITION.

9:27:04AM IT'S BEEN GOING ON 16 YEARS BUT I'LL LEAVE WITH A

9:27:06AM LITTLE-KNOWN FACT.

9:27:07AM CONGA CALIENTE CELEBRATED ACTUALLY 17th FESTIVAL BECAUSE

9:27:13AM THE FIRST ONE WE HAD TO CANCEL BECAUSE OF A HURRICANE.

9:27:18AM WITHIN LESS THAN 24 HOURS OF THE SHOW, CONGA CALIENTE WAS

9:27:23AM FIRST CALLED FESTIVAL CALIENTE AND NAMED BY NILO MENENDEZ

9:27:27AM FROM PARKS.

9:27:28AM WE SWITCHED IT BECAUSE UNIVERSAL STUDIOS DECIDED TO PUT

9:27:31AM SOMETHING SIMILAR SO WE WENT WITH CONGA CALIENTE.

9:27:34AM THOSE ARE LITTLE TRIBUTES.




9:27:36AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COUNCIL AND CITY PEOPLE THAT HAVE

9:27:39AM SUPPORTED US ALONG THE WAY.

9:27:41AM IT IS A JOINT VENTURE.

9:27:42AM WE WORK ON IT TOGETHER AND WE'RE VERY PROUD.

9:27:45AM THERE IS A GREAT EDUCATIONAL PIECE NOW.

9:27:46AM WE PARTNER WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEMS, A

9:27:49AM PROFESSIONAL STAGE FOR THE KIDS.

9:27:50AM ARTS AREA, HEALTH AREA.

9:27:52AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

9:27:55AM IT'S BEEN OUR HONOR TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

9:28:06AM >> HE SAID THIS IS A PRODUCTION SPEAKING SPANISH AND I'LL

9:28:12AM TRANSLATE INTO ENGLISH.

9:28:13AM WHO KNOWS IF I SAY THE RIGHT THING.

9:28:16AM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]

9:28:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'VE GOT IT ALL MEMORIZED.

9:28:50AM >> [SPEAKING SPANISH]

9:29:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS RIGHT.

9:29:13AM TAMPA IS A WONDERFUL CITY WHERE KIDS, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR

9:29:18AM FAMILY, HAVE A NICE TIME, ENJOY YOUR LIFE.

9:29:21AM IT STARTED WAY BACK WITH THE CODAS AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE

9:29:27AM CITY OF TAMPA, ESPECIALLY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

9:29:29AM I THINK IT STARTED WITH MAYOR IORIO, IF I RECALL.

9:29:33AM WONDERFUL EVENT GROWING.

9:29:34AM LIKE GRASS, KEEPS ON MOVING.

9:29:36AM IF YOU DON'T CUT IT AND HASN'T BEEN CUT IN 16 YEARS, THAT'S




9:29:39AM WHY THEY HAVE THE ATTENDANCE THEY HAVE.

9:29:41AM WANTS TO THANK ALL THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALL THE

9:29:44AM FORMER MAYORS, THE PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL THOSE

9:29:47AM THAT HAVE ATTENDED AND THOSE WHO PLAN TO ATTEND.

9:29:49AM ONCE YOU GO ON NATIONAL TELEVISION LIKE WE HAVE IN THE CITY

9:29:52AM OF TAMPA, ONE OF THE LARGEST TV AREAS IN THE COUNTRY, I

9:29:54AM THINK WE'RE UP ABOUT 12th IN THE WHOLE NATION, YOU WILL BE

9:29:58AM GETTING MORE THAN MAYBE 60,000 PEOPLE.

9:30:00AM YOUR POCKETS WILL GET DEEPER -- HE DIDN'T SAY THIS BUT I'M

9:30:03AM SAYING THIS -- YOUR POCKETS BETTER GET DEEPER BECAUSE YOU'LL

9:30:08AM NEED MORE RESOURCES TO HANDLE THE CROWD.

9:30:09AM BUT IT'S BEEN THEIR PLEASURE TO DO THIS ON BEHALF OF ALL THE

9:30:13AM CITIZENS AND THOSE WHO COME IN TO HAVE THE TIME OF THEIR

9:30:21AM LIFE DURING THIS TIME.

9:30:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

9:30:23AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:30:24AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 3, A PRESENTATION BY OUR FRIENDS

9:30:32AM WITH THE 13th JUDICIAL COURT WHO ARE HERE.

9:30:38AM WE SEE HERE OUR FRIEND, THE HONORABLE JUDGE FICARROTTA, THE

9:30:43AM CHIEF JUDGE FOR THE 13TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT.

9:30:44AM YOUR HONOR, GOOD TO SEE YOU TODAY, SIR.

9:30:48AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

9:30:50AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR INVITING US HERE TO

9:30:54AM DISCUSS THE GOOD THINGS WE ARE DOING WITH OUR JUVENILE

9:30:56AM DIVERSION PROGRAMS IN THE 13th CIRCUIT.




9:31:00AM WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS OF THE

9:31:04AM COURT'S KEY JUVENILE DIVERSION STAKEHOLDERS.

9:31:06AM WE HAVE TRAVIS COY FROM THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,

9:31:09AM REPRESENTING OUR STATE ATTORNEY ANDY WARREN, ROCKY BRANCATO

9:31:14AM FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, REPRESENTING PUBLIC

9:31:16AM DEFENDER JULIANNE HOLT.

9:31:17AM TOGETHER, WE ARE SUCCESSFULLY DIVERTING YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS,

9:31:22AM ENSURING LESS INTERACTION WITH MUCH MORE PUNITIVE JUVENILE

9:31:25AM JUSTICE SYSTEM, KEEPING THEM OUT OF THE COURTHOUSE.

9:31:28AM I THINK THE KEY TO THAT SUCCESS IS THAT COLLABORATIVE

9:31:31AM EFFORT.

9:31:31AM WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

9:31:34AM WE'VE GOT A REALLY UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP.

9:31:36AM ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR COURTHOUSE WORK WELL

9:31:41AM TOGETHER.

9:31:41AM STATE ATTORNEY AND PUBLIC DEFENDER INCLUDED.

9:31:43AM NORMALLY AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP, THEY COME TOGETHER AND

9:31:48AM WORK ON KEY ISSUES TO I HAVE THE ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF

9:31:51AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

9:31:51AM AND THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM, OUR JUVENILES.

9:31:54AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF, MUCH LIKE THERE WAS

9:31:58AM DISCUSSION OF JUVENILES BEING INVOLVED IN THE ARTS.

9:32:00AM JUVENILES BEING INVOLVED IN PARKS AND RECREATION.

9:32:03AM THAT'S WHERE WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE, NOT IN THE

9:32:06AM COURTHOUSE FACING CRIMINAL CHARGES.




9:32:09AM I'M PERSONALLY VERY PROUD OF OUR JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH

9:32:13AM COURT, WHICH I PRESIDE OVER.

9:32:15AM IT IS THE ONLY JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH COURT IN THE STATE OF

9:32:17AM FLORIDA.

9:32:18AM WE STARTED IT IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

9:32:21AM WE'VE HAD 90 CHILDREN GO THROUGH OUR JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH

9:32:24AM COURT.

9:32:25AM THEY FIND THEIR WAY TO THAT COURT AFTER BEING FOUND

9:32:28AM INCOMPETENT DUE TO EITHER MENTAL ILLNESS, INTELLECTUAL

9:32:32AM DISABILITY OR AGE IMMATURITY.

9:32:34AM THE COLLECTIVE GOAL OF OUR JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH COURT IS

9:32:37AM TO ENABLE YOUTH TO AVOID FUTURE CRIMINAL INVOLVEMENT BY

9:32:41AM PROVIDING SERVICES AND SUPPORT TO THE YOUTH AND TO THEIR

9:32:44AM FAMILIES.

9:32:45AM CHILDREN ARE EVALUATED FOR NEEDS, GIVEN REFERRALS TO OUR

9:32:49AM COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND PROGRESS IS MONITORED THROUGH THE

9:32:52AM COURT.

9:32:53AM IT'S A VERY, VERY HANDS-ON COURT.

9:32:55AM I TEND TO GET VERY INVOLVED WITH THE CHILDREN AND THEIR

9:32:58AM FAMILIES, GIVING THEM THE SUPPORT THEY NEED, GIVING THEM THE

9:33:01AM ENCOURAGEMENT THEY NEED, GIVING THEM A LITTLE MORE STERNER

9:33:05AM TREATMENT WHEN THEY NEED THAT.

9:33:06AM JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH COURT IS REALLY JUST A SMALL PART OF

9:33:11AM OUR JUVENILE DIVERSION EFFORTS.

9:33:12AM I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE GINA JUSTICE WHO WILL GIVE YOU MUCH




9:33:18AM MORE DETAILED INFORMATION.

9:33:22AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:33:22AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

9:33:25AM I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

9:33:28AM JUVENILE JUSTICE PARTNERSHIP AS THE CHIEF JUDGE ALREADY

9:33:31AM REFERRED.

9:33:31AM WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF COLLABORATION HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH

9:33:34AM COUNTY.

9:33:35AM WE'RE HERE TO MAKE THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTHFUL

9:33:40AM OFFENDERS.

9:33:41AM TODAY WE'LL TALK IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE RECENT

9:33:43AM HISTORY OF OUR JUVENILE ARREST AVOIDANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS

9:33:47AM KNOWN BY THE ACRONYM JAAP OR JAAP.

9:33:51AM OUR MOST RECENT JAAP INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT BECAME REVISED

9:33:58AM AUGUST 1 OF 2017, JUST BEFORE THE 2017 SCHOOL YEAR.

9:34:03AM THE AGREEMENT FORMALIZES THE CIVIL CITATION PROGRAM FOR

9:34:07AM YOUTHFUL FIRST-TIME OFFENDERS AND IT ALLOWS YOUTH TO AVOID

9:34:12AM AN ARREST BY THE ISSUANCE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF A

9:34:15AM PAPER CITATION THAT REFERS THE YOUTH TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE

9:34:21AM OFFICE OF THE COURTS JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM.

9:34:23AM ELIGIBLE OFFICIALS FOR OUR DIVERSION PROGRAM CAN BE FOUND IN

9:34:27AM THE SCHOOL AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.

9:34:30AM AT THAT TIME, IN 2017, WE ACCOMPLISHED THE REDUCTION OF

9:34:38AM INELIGIBLE OFFENSES.

9:34:40AM WE GOT THAT LIST DOWN TO 13 INELIGIBLE OFFENSES.




9:34:44AM WE CONSIDERED THAT A MONUMENTAL ACCOMPLISHMENT.

9:34:47AM BUT THEN IN 2019, WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT LIST EVEN

9:34:54AM FURTHER, WHERE ONLY FIVE OFFENSES FOR FIRST-TIME YOUTHFUL

9:34:59AM OFFENDERS ARE INELIGIBLE FOR A DIVERSION.

9:35:01AM THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENT.

9:35:05AM THE DATA FROM 2017 TO CURRENT INDICATES THAT CHILDREN ARE

9:35:08AM CONSISTENTLY BEING REFERRED TO OUR YOUTHFUL JUVENILE

9:35:12AM OFFENDER PROGRAM IN VERY HIGH NUMBERS.

9:35:15AM IN 2017, WE HAD 520 YOUTH WHO AVOIDED ARREST AND CAME TO

9:35:21AM JUVENILE DIVERSION.

9:35:21AM THEN IN 2018 IT JUMPED UP 35% WHERE WE HAD 705 YOUTH WHO

9:35:26AM AVOIDED ARREST AND WENT TO A JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM.

9:35:29AM IN 2019, WHICH IS NOT OVER YET, I PROJECT THAT WE'LL HAVE

9:35:34AM ABOUT 625 YOUTH WHO ARE DIVERTED TO JUVENILE DIVERSION,

9:35:40AM WHICH IS A SLIGHT DECREASE FROM 2018 BUT STILL SIGNIFICANTLY

9:35:44AM HIGHER THAN WHAT WE APPRECIATED IN 2017.

9:35:46AM WE ALSO RECEIVE A NUMBER OF REFERRALS TO JUVENILE DIVERSION

9:35:50AM POSTARREST, WHEN THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REFERS

9:35:56AM FIRST-TIME OFFENDERS WHO WERE ARRESTED TO JUVENILE

9:35:58AM DIVERSION.

9:35:59AM THOSE ARE INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO PROVIDE

9:36:04AM RESOURCES TO CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES THROUGH DIVERSION.

9:36:07AM YVETTE BOATWRIGHT, MY JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM MANAGER, IS

9:36:12AM GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SPECIFIC COMPONENTS OF

9:36:14AM OUR JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM.




9:36:15AM I ALSO WANTED TO OFFER THAT I DID BRING SOME MATERIALS, IN

9:36:19AM CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED IN READING WITH MORE DETAIL, ABOUT

9:36:21AM THE SUCCESSES OF OUR PROGRAM AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF

9:36:24AM PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE I BROUGHT OUR INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT.

9:36:27AM I BROUGHT OUR RECENT ADDENDUM IN 2019.

9:36:30AM I ALSO BROUGHT THE STATISTICS OF PARTICIPANTS FROM OCTOBER

9:36:34AM OF 2019 IN CASE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE GRANULAR.

9:36:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:36:49AM THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE

9:36:54AM JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM.

9:36:57AM AS MS. JUSTICE INDICATED, OUR PROGRAM RECEIVES REFERRALS

9:37:02AM FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THAT'S

9:37:06AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S SHERIFF'S OFFICE, TAMPA POLICE

9:37:08AM DEPARTMENT, PLANT CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, TEMPLE TERRACE,

9:37:13AM ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE, AND TOBACCO, AS WELL AS THE UNIVERSITY OF

9:37:16AM SOUTH FLORIDA.

9:37:17AM WE ALSO RECEIVE REFERRALS FROM THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

9:37:21AM ONCE THOSE REFERRALS COME TO US, WE, THE JUVENILE DIVERSION

9:37:26AM PROGRAM, REVIEW THE CRIMINAL REPORT AFFIDAVIT.

9:37:29AM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK FOR ARE THE SPECIFICS OF THE

9:37:35AM LAW VIOLATION.

9:37:37AM WE TRY TO FIND OUT IF THERE ARE ANY RISK FACTORS THAT JUMP

9:37:40AM OUT AT US SO THAT I CAN APPROPRIATELY ASSIGN THE CASE TO THE

9:37:45AM CASE MANAGERS.

9:37:46AM WE HAVE SEVERAL CASE MANAGERS WHO HAVE LEVELS OF EXPERTISE,




9:37:50AM HANDLING CERTAIN TYPES OF LAW VIOLATIONS.

9:37:53AM FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE CASE MANAGER THAT IS WELL VERSED IN

9:37:58AM SEXUAL OFFENSES.

9:38:00AM WE HAVE THOSE THAT ARE MORE INCLINED TO WORK WITH YOUTH THAT

9:38:04AM HAVE MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS.

9:38:07AM ONCE THE CRIMINAL REPORT AFFIDAVIT IS REVIEWED AND THE

9:38:11AM ASSIGNMENT IS MADE TO THE APPROPRIATE COURT COUNSELOR, WE

9:38:16AM IMMEDIATELY GET IN CONTACT WITH THE VICTIM BECAUSE WE WANT

9:38:19AM TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S VICTIM ACCOUNTABILITY.

9:38:21AM THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO FIND OUT FROM THE VICTIM ARE

9:38:25AM THINGS SUCH AS HOW ARE YOU IMPACTED? WE WANT TO FIND OUT IF

9:38:31AM THERE'S RESTITUTION, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR DOCUMENTATION SO

9:38:36AM THAT WE CAN ASSIST THEM IN GETTING REPAID FOR ANY DAMAGES OR

9:38:39AM LOSSES THAT THEY MAY HAVE SUFFERED.

9:38:41AM WE ALSO TRY TO FIND OUT IF THEY WANT TO COME TO THE

9:38:45AM SCHEDULED APPOINTMENT SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY BE PRESENT

9:38:49AM WHEN WE MEET WITH THE YOUTH AND THE PARENT.

9:38:52AM AFTERWARDS, WE REACH OUT TO THE PARENT AND COORDINATE A TIME

9:38:57AM THAT'S CONVENIENT FOR THEM.

9:38:59AM WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE WORKING PARENTS, AND

9:39:02AM SO WE HAVE CASE MANAGERS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE BEFORE AND

9:39:07AM SOMETIMES EVEN AFTER HOURS.

9:39:09AM WE DON'T WANT ANY BARRIERS THAT WOULD PREVENT YOUNG PEOPLE

9:39:14AM ACCESS TO OUR JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM.

9:39:17AM ONCE THE APPOINTMENT TAKES PLACE, THERE ARE TWO KEY




9:39:22AM COMPONENTS.

9:39:22AM THE INTERVIEW, WHERE WE SPEAK WITH THE YOUNG PERSON AND TRY

9:39:26AM TO FIND OUT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE WHAT HAPPENED.

9:39:29AM WE ALLOW THEM TO DESCRIBE, AND THEN THERE IS AN

9:39:35AM EVIDENCE-BASED RISK ASSESSMENT THAT'S ALSO CONDUCTED.

9:39:38AM WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE RISK ASSESSMENTS, BUT BOTH OF THEM ARE

9:39:41AM LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE OF CHILDHOOD TRAUMA, EVIDENCE OF

9:39:47AM ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

9:39:50AM ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS IN TERMS OF SUICIDE RISK FACTORS,

9:39:54AM DEPRESSIVE SYMPTOMS, ANXIETY AND TRAUMA?

9:39:57AM WE WANT TO FIND OUT IF THE YOUNG PERSON HAS ANY SUBSTANCE

9:40:01AM USE CONCERNS.

9:40:02AM HOW ARE THEY FUNCTIONING OVERALL?

9:40:04AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE HOW THE CLIENT IS DOING,

9:40:09AM AND THAT THEIR INTERACTION WITH OUR PROGRAM IS MEANINGFUL,

9:40:13AM NOT SIMPLY TO GIVE A CONSEQUENCE FOR THE CRIME, WHICH IS

9:40:17AM IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO TO -- MAY I CONTINUE?

9:40:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU HAVE?

9:40:25AM >> I CAN SPEED IT UP AND FINISH IN TWO MINUTES.

9:40:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.

9:40:30AM >> I APOLOGIZE.

9:40:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE FINE, YOU'RE FINE.

9:40:32AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

9:40:33AM >> BUT THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS WE WANT TO MAKE

9:40:36AM SURE THAT WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE COME INTO OUR OFFICE IT'S A




9:40:39AM MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE.

9:40:40AM ONCE THE ASSESSMENT AND THE INTERVIEW IS CONDUCTED, THEN

9:40:44AM WHAT WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO

9:40:47AM SANCTION OR TO GIVE CONSEQUENCES TO THE YOUNG PERSON?

9:40:51AM DO WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT RIGHT THERE IN THE OFFICE OR

9:40:54AM IS THIS CASE MORE APPROPRIATELY SET BEFORE TEEN COURT?

9:40:57AM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HELP US TO DETERMINE WHERE TO BEST

9:41:02AM SANCTION A YOUNG PERSON ARE, ARE THERE ANY SOCIAL ANXIETIES?

9:41:07AM DOES THE CHILD HAVE A HISTORY OF CUTTING?

9:41:10AM ANY ATTEMPTS AT SUICIDE.

9:41:13AM WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL IN THE PRESENCE

9:41:18AM OF A JURY OF THEIR PEERS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO

9:41:20AM RETRAUMATIZE OR CAUSE ANY TRIGGERS FOR THE YOUNG PERSON.

9:41:26AM TEEN COURT REALLY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF

9:41:31AM CHARGES.

9:41:32AM SO PETIT THEFTS, BATTERIES, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, DISRUPTING

9:41:37AM SCHOOL FUNCTIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

9:41:39AM IT'S A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE ON BOTH

9:41:43AM SIDES.

9:41:44AM THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVING AS JURORS HAVE THE

9:41:47AM OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THEIR SKILLS AND THEIR COMPETENCIES,

9:41:51AM AND THE YOUNG PERSON THAT IS SANCTIONED THROUGH TEEN COURSE

9:41:55AM HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT NOT ALL YOUNG PEOPLE ARE

9:41:59AM GLAMORIZING OR GLORIFYING ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIORS.

9:42:03AM THEY SEE THEIR PEERS DOING POSITIVE THINGS, AND WE HOPE THAT




9:42:06AM THAT HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THEM.

9:42:08AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS

9:42:11AM THAT WHEN WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEIR PARENTS IN OUR

9:42:15AM OFFICE, WHAT WE TRY TO DO, IF THEY QUALIFY FOR SERVICES, AND

9:42:19AM SERVICES INCLUDE THERAPEUTIC INTERVENTION, SUBSTANCE USE,

9:42:23AM AND EVEN SOME YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS WHERE THEY CAN

9:42:27AM DEVELOP THEIR COMPETENCIES, WE TRY TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT

9:42:31AM MOMENT AND CONTACT THE SERVICE PROVIDER, TRIAGE THE CASE,

9:42:36AM AND SEE IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SET UP THAT NEXT FIRST

9:42:39AM APPOINTMENT.

9:42:40AM WE DO THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

9:42:42AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONNECTION IS MADE, AND THAT

9:42:45AM THE YOUTH AND PARENT, WHEN THEY LEAVE THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE

9:42:47AM YET ONE MORE THING TO DO.

9:42:49AM AND WE DO A SOFT PASS-OFF OF THE YOUTH AND THE PARENT TO THE

9:42:53AM TREATMENT PROVIDERS THAT WE'VE GOT WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIPS

9:42:56AM WITH.

9:42:57AM WITH THE JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM, LIKE TO FOCUS ON YOUTH

9:43:02AM COMPETENCIES.

9:43:03AM I SAW MS. BEVERLY GIVEN AN AWARD BECAUSE OF THE GOOD WORK

9:43:08AM THAT SHE DOES IN THE COMMUNITY.

9:43:09AM AND WE OFTEN REFER CLIENTS TO THOSE TYPES OF RESOURCES IN

9:43:14AM THE COMMUNITY.

9:43:15AM WE REFER CLIENTS TO THE RICH HOUSE, WHICH IS SUPERVISED BY

9:43:19AM LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT THEY DO TUTORIAL PROGRAMS AND REALLY




9:43:24AM SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

9:43:27AM AND SO IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE HAPPENS IS

9:43:31AM THAT PUBLIC SAFETY, VICTIM ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE

9:43:36AM DEVELOPMENT OF YOUTH COMPETENCIES IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF

9:43:40AM WHAT WE DO WITH THE DIVERSION PROGRAM.

9:43:44AM THANK YOU.

9:43:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

9:43:45AM ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE PRESENTATION?

9:43:46AM OKAY.

9:43:47AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, AND THEN

9:43:51AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU WISH TO COMMENT, GO AHEAD.

9:43:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

9:43:56AM I ATTENDED A MEETING EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

9:44:00AM I MADE A PHONE CALL BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING, PROGRAM CALLED

9:44:03AM NEIGHBORHOOD ACCOUNTABILITY.

9:44:07AM IT WENT AWAY.

9:44:08AM I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

9:44:10AM WHAT ARE WE DOING?

9:44:11AM THAT BOARD HAD THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE COMMUNITIES REALLY

9:44:14AM ADVOCATING FOR THE VICTIM AND THE YOUNG JUVENILE

9:44:19AM PERPETRATOR, BUT IT ALSO GAVE ACCOUNTABILITY WITH THE

9:44:23AM SCHOOL, THE COMMUNITY, AND THE CHILD.

9:44:26AM I WENT TO THE MEETING AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT ALL THE PROGRAMS

9:44:31AM THAT THE SYSTEM WAS ADVOCATING FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, COME

9:44:37AM AND SHARE THAT WITH US SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH




9:44:41AM OUR STATE ATTORNEY AND OUR PUBLIC OFFENDER AND OUR OUTSOURCE

9:44:45AM AGENCIES.

9:44:46AM PEOPLE CALL US ABOUT EVERYTHING.

9:44:48AM AND TO HAVE INFORMATION TO SAY, THIS IS WHY THIS PROGRAM IS

9:44:51AM IN PLACE.

9:44:52AM THIS IS WHO YOU NEED TO CALL.

9:44:53AM THESE ARE THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED.

9:44:55AM I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE CHIEF JUDGE CAME HIMSELF TO TALK ABOUT

9:45:00AM SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU.

9:45:04AM AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR COMING AND BRINGING YOUR STAFF.

9:45:06AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:45:07AM IT'S A SITUATION WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.

9:45:09AM WE'RE PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO

9:45:12AM GIVE BACK.

9:45:15AM TRY TO HELP THE YOUTH THAT WE CAN.

9:45:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

9:45:18AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUDGE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR

9:45:22AM EVERYBODY AT THE PODIUM, BUT I JUST WANTED -- COME ON UP.

9:45:27AM I KNOW YOU'RE SHY.

9:45:28AM 20 YEARS AGO, WHEN I WAS IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, I

9:45:36AM THOUGHT I KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.

9:45:40AM BUT, BOY, YOU GO TO THE -- I WOULD FILL IN PERIODICALLY IN

9:45:45AM THE JUVENILE GROUP IN FRONT OF JUDGE LITTLE WHO DID A GREAT

9:45:50AM JOB.

9:45:50AM AND YOU GO IN THERE, AND THERE'S AT ANY GIVEN DAY, I CAN'T




9:45:54AM REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBERS, 50 OR 100 KIDS IN THERE IN

9:46:00AM HANDCUFFS.

9:46:01AM SOME OF THEM AS YOUNG AS EIGHT YEARS OLD, NINE YEARS OLD

9:46:05AM THAT SORT OF THING AND THEY ARE IN DETENTION FOR POTENTIALLY

9:46:08AM 21 DAYS.

9:46:09AM IT'S MIND-BLOWING.

9:46:11AM PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT.

9:46:12AM THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT RIGHT NOW.

9:46:14AM BUT I'M SO GLAD -- AND THAT STILL HAPPENS TO A CERTAIN

9:46:19AM EXTENT FOR THE KIDS IN THOSE FIVE CATEGORIES WHO MIGHT NEED

9:46:24AM A LITTLE BIT MORE.

9:46:25AM BUT I'M SO GLAD WE'VE MADE PROGRESS ON LOOKING AT THIS

9:46:30AM HOLISTICALLY.

9:46:31AM I THINK ONE OF THE HARDEST PARTS OF GOVERNMENT IS FOR

9:46:36AM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO COLLABORATE AND WORK TOGETHER.

9:46:39AM AND YOU ARE SUCH A LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY BRINGING THOSE

9:46:43AM GROUPS TOGETHER WITH POSITIVE IDEAS.

9:46:46AM RECENTLY YOU STARTED THE JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH THING, AND

9:46:50AM YOU GOT TO KNOW THAT FOR SO MANY OF THE KIDS AND THE

9:46:53AM STRESSES AT HOME AND THE STRESSES OF LIFE AND EVERYTHING

9:46:55AM ELSE, A LOT OF IT IS MENTAL HEALTH.

9:46:57AM AND YOU'VE REALIZED THAT.

9:46:58AM AND YOU SIT THERE YOURSELF PERSONALLY TO LOOK OVER THE

9:47:03AM JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH.

9:47:05AM THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.




9:47:06AM BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO YOU AND TO EVERY

9:47:10AM DEPARTMENT THAT'S HERE REPRESENTED.

9:47:12AM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, OBVIOUSLY, STATE ATTORNEY, PUBLIC

9:47:16AM DEFENDER, COURT SYSTEM.

9:47:18AM DJJ, ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT ARE INVOLVED AND

9:47:22AM WORKING TOGETHER.

9:47:23AM TO HELP THOSE KIDS.

9:47:25AM AND THEN THE FOLLOW-UP THAT MS. JUSTICE AND HER PARTNER

9:47:31AM MENTIONED I THINK IS SO CRITICAL, BECAUSE WE CAN GET THROUGH

9:47:34AM THOSE FIRST SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS AND GET THEM THROUGH

9:47:37AM THAT DIVERSION PROGRAM, BUT IF WE DON'T FOLLOW UP AND REFER

9:47:39AM THEM TO OUR REC DEPARTMENT, REFER THEM TO THE OTHER

9:47:42AM AGENCIES, THEN WE'VE SORT OF DROPPED THE BALL.

9:47:45AM SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.

9:47:46AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:47:47AM >> WE CONCERN OURSELVES WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

9:47:49AM WE CONCERN OURSELVES WITH ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THESE YOUTHFUL

9:47:52AM OFFENDERS, THESE JUVENILES.

9:47:53AM AND IF WE CAN HAVE THEM AVOID AN ARREST -- IT'S HARD TO GET

9:47:56AM A CHILD NOW ANYWHERE.

9:47:57AM IF YOU'VE GOT AN ARREST RECORD, IT'S REALLY, REALLY

9:48:00AM DIFFICULT.

9:48:00AM BELIEVE ME, I INVITE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

9:48:03AM ANYTIME YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND SPEND A DAY AT THE COURTHOUSE

9:48:05AM WITH US, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.




9:48:07AM I HAVE AN EXTRA ROBE WE CAN THROW ON YOU.

9:48:10AM WE CAN SAY WE HAVE A VISITING JUDGE.

9:48:12AM PLEASE COME AND OBSERVE OUR JUVENILE MENTAL HEALTH COURT,

9:48:15AM DRUG COURT, VETERANS TREATMENT COURT.

9:48:17AM WE'RE DOING SOME REALLY, REALLY GOOD THINGS DOWN AT THE

9:48:19AM COURTHOUSE, AND IT IS A TEAM EFFORT.

9:48:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

9:48:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR HONOR, I WANT TO THANK YOU.

9:48:25AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID MORE THAN A MOUTHFUL AND IT WAS

9:48:28AM ALL ACCURATE.

9:48:29AM BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INTERVENING IN A YOUNG PERSON'S

9:48:33AM LIFE.

9:48:34AM ONE STUPID MISTAKE SHOULD NOT MEAN A LIFETIME OF HARDSHIP AS

9:48:37AM AN ADULT.

9:48:38AM I THANK YOU AND EVERYBODY THAT IS WORKING WITH YOU, YOUR

9:48:40AM HONOR.

9:48:41AM >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

9:48:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO,

9:48:44AM OBVIOUSLY, BEING A LONGTIME, LIKE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,

9:48:48AM ATTORNEY, I'M WELL AWARE OF A LOT OF THE THINGS WE DO IN THE

9:48:51AM 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT.

9:48:53AM WE SHOULD ALL BE REALLY PROUD THAT OUR CIRCUIT, NOT JUST

9:48:56AM WITH THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN COURT, BUT OUR BAR ASSOCIATIONS,

9:48:59AM THAT WE REALLY DO GOOD WORK HERE.

9:49:00AM WE REALLY HAVE LAWYERS WHO NOT JUST DO WELL, BUT DO GOOD TO




9:49:05AM THE COMMUNITY.

9:49:06AM I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SAY.

9:49:09AM AND I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME HERE TODAY,

9:49:11AM INCLUDING TRAVIS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS TERESA'S HUSBAND.

9:49:15AM [ LAUGHTER ]

9:49:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:49:16AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

9:49:17AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

9:49:18AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

9:49:20AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:49:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE GO FORWARD TO THE NEXT ITEM, I WANT

9:49:29AM TO SEE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

9:49:32AM COULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND?

9:49:33AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE BEFORE JUST SO THAT IN CASE THIS

9:49:39AM ITEM RUNS LONG, SO IT DOESN'T BUMP UP AGAINST 10:30, LET'S

9:49:42AM GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT REALLY FAST.

9:49:44AM IF YOU WANT TO BEGIN, SIR, YOU MAY.

9:49:47AM GO AHEAD.

9:49:54AM >> METESMOT, TONY DANIEL.

9:49:56AM ONE OF THE THINGS THEY NEED TO STRAIGHTEN OUT -- WHEN YOU

9:50:00AM OPERATE WITH THE BUREAUCRACY, YOU SEE THERE IS A DEGREE OF

9:50:05AM INEFFICIENCY AND INSULT PEOPLE HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WEEK AFTER

9:50:08AM WEEK.

9:50:09AM WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS SAY PUBLIC COMMENT IS A CERTAIN TIME.

9:50:11AM WE DON'T NEED TO SIT HERE WONDERING IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK,




9:50:14AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK.

9:50:15AM IT'S DISRESPECTFUL AND DISHONORABLE TO PRIVATE CITIZENS WHO

9:50:19AM TAKE THE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL

9:50:21AM BE SPEAKING AT 1:00 OR 10:00.

9:50:23AM MAKE IT 10:00 AND CALL IT A DAY AND SCHEDULE OTHER PEOPLE TO

9:50:26AM BE HERE AT A CERTAIN TIME.

9:50:27AM IF ANYBODY WANT TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, THEY CAN

9:50:31AM STAY AND DO SO.

9:50:32AM THAT IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION.

9:50:33AM WHY SHOULD PRIVATE CITIZENS, WHY SHOULD THE CITIZENRY, WHO

9:50:36AM ELECTED YOU GUYS, WANT TO COME DOWN HERE AND VOICE THEIR

9:50:39AM OPINIONS HAVE TO WAIT LIKE PUPPETS ON A STRING.

9:50:43AM THAT'S UNFAIR.

9:50:44AM REALLY NEED TO RESTORE MY TIME, IF POSSIBLE.

9:50:47AM YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO GET THAT STRAIGHT.

9:50:49AM IT IS A DEGREE OF INCOMPETENCE IF THAT CAN'T BE STRAIGHTENED

9:50:54AM OUT.

9:50:55AM THE CITY IS IT HUSTLING BACKWARDS AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL

9:51:03AM BECAUSE SOCIETY IS HUSTLING BACKWARDS.

9:51:05AM AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, NEED TO MAKE DONATIONS AND ALL

9:51:10AM APPROPRIATIONS TO LOWRY PARK ZOO BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE EVERY

9:51:14AM AFRICAN IS GOING TO BE.

9:51:15AM THE AFRICANS THAT'S LEFT IN THIS CITY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE

9:51:18AM GOING TO BE WITH THE APES, MONKEYS, LIONS, TIGERS AND

9:51:24AM EVERYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL NOT CONSIDERED AS




9:51:26AM CITIZENS.

9:51:28AM WE'RE STILL NOT CONSIDERED AS HUMAN BEINGS.

9:51:30AM LOOK AROUND YOU AND YOU CAN SEE IT.

9:51:32AM GO AROUND OUR COMMUNITIES AND YOU CAN SEE IT.

9:51:34AM GO AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU CAN SEE IT.

9:51:36AM VISIT ORIENT ROAD JAIL OR FALKENBURG ROAD JAIL AND YOU CAN

9:51:40AM SEE IT.

9:51:41AM IT CAN BE SEEN.

9:51:47AM IT'S A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE, AND THAT

9:51:51AM HATRED IS DEEP.

9:51:52AM IT'S 600 YEARS DEEP, AND WE EXPERIENCE IT.

9:51:56AM WE FEEL IT.

9:51:57AM AND WE LIVE IT.

9:51:57AM WEEK AFTER WEEK, WHEN I'M HERE, OR WHEN YOU SEE ANY AFRICAN

9:52:03AM PERSON OUT THERE, MARCUS GARVEY, MALCOLM X, MARTIN LUTHER

9:52:06AM KING, HARRIET TUBMAN, WHOEVER IT MAY BE, WE'RE NOT BEGGING

9:52:12AM ANYONE TO LIKE US, WE'RE NOT BEGGING ANYONE TO RESPECT US.

9:52:17AM AND THIS MESSAGE ISN'T FOR YOU GUYS.

9:52:20AM THIS MESSAGE IS FOR THE OTHER GUYS.

9:52:23AM WE HAVE TO ORGANIZE.

9:52:25AM WE HAVE TO ORGANIZE AND DEMAND RESPECT.

9:52:30AM DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT.

9:52:32AM DEMAND FAIR HOUSING.

9:52:33AM DEMAND JUSTICE.

9:52:35AM ALL THESE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO AS AFRICAN PEOPLE.




9:52:39AM INSTEAD OF COMING DOWN HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK, A BUNCH OF

9:52:43AM MFING BEGGARS, BEGGING WEEK AFTER WEEK.

9:52:50AM WE CAME FROM TOO PROUD OF AN ANCESTRY TO COME DOWN HERE

9:52:54AM BEGGING WEEK AFTER WEEK.

9:52:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

9:52:56AM NEXT, PLEASE.

9:53:05AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS. I'M COMING DOWN HERE

9:53:10AM CONSTANTLY, JUST LIKE THE BROTHER SAY.

9:53:12AM WE GET NO JUSTICE REGARDLESS.

9:53:14AM BASIC WORD ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK YOU CARE MORE

9:53:19AM ABOUT A DAMN DOG THAN YOU CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE THE WAY

9:53:21AM YOU TREAT US.

9:53:23AM I WAS READING THE CONSTITUTION THE OTHER NIGHT, I FOUND OUT

9:53:25AM THAT CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION, WASN'T

9:53:29AM WRITTEN UP FOR BLACK FOLKS AT ALL.

9:53:33AM WE WERE SLAVES.

9:53:34AM OUR ANCESTORS WERE SLAVERY DURING THE TIME.

9:53:37AM THEY WORKED AND BE KILLED.

9:53:40AM THAT'S SAD.

9:53:41AM YOU'RE STILL TREATING US THE SAME WAY.

9:53:44AM TREATING US WORSER THAN A DAMN DOG, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

9:53:48AM WE HAVE BLACK FOLKS THAT THINK -- SOME DON'T WANT TO COME

9:53:53AM DOWN HERE BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY

9:53:56AM ELSE.

9:53:56AM WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.




9:53:57AM I TRY TO TELL YOU ALL OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I'M A

9:54:02AM TEACHER.

9:54:02AM I'M NOT AN -- I GOT TO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST

9:54:10AM REGARDLESS OF WHERE I AM.

9:54:12AM I THANK GOD FOR THEM, TOO.

9:54:15AM PREACHERS NEED TO COME OUT HERE BIG TIME AND STAND UP FOR

9:54:19AM THEMSELVES AND STAND UP FOR THEIR PEOPLE SELVES.

9:54:21AM THEY ARE HIDING BEHIND THE PODIUM.

9:54:24AM AND SITTING IN THE AIR CONDITIONING, COLLECTING MONEY.

9:54:28AM THAT'S ALL THEY ARE DOING.

9:54:29AM BUT THEY NEED TO COME DOWN HERE AND PACK THIS PLACE UP, LET

9:54:33AM YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS.

9:54:35AM I AIN'T GOT TO BEG YOU ALL FOR NOTHING.

9:54:37AM I BEG -- FOR EVERYTHING.

9:54:40AM ONE OF THESE DAYS, YOU-ALL GOING TO SEE JUSTICE.

9:54:46AM RESPECT THIS YOUNG MAN, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO STAND UP FOR

9:54:49AM JUSTICE NOT JUST FOR BLACK FOLKS, BUT BLACK FOLKS ARE THE

9:54:52AM ONES SUFFERING THE CONSEQUENCES.

9:54:53AM WHITE FOLKS GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER.

9:54:55AM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HISTORY BEFORE

9:54:58AM YOU RING THAT BELL ON ME.

9:54:59AM BACK DURING HISTORY TIME, YOU KNOW WHAT?

9:55:03AM THEY SLAUGHTER LITTLE BOYS, FED THEM TO THE ALLIGATORS, TWO

9:55:07AM YEARS AND UNDER.

9:55:08AM YOU KNOW ABOUT IT.




9:55:09AM AIN'T TOO FAR FROM THAT NOW.

9:55:12AM LORD HAVE MERCY.

9:55:13AM WHY DON'T YOU ALL TREAT US -- YOU AIN'T GOING TO ASK US NO

9:55:17AM QUESTION, EVERYBODY ELSE COME UP AND YOU ASK QUESTION.

9:55:20AM WAIT A MINUTE, COME BACK.

9:55:21AM TELL ME TO COME BACK AND CAN I ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.

9:55:24AM GOD KNOWS I NEED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

9:55:27AM WE'RE STANDING IN JEOPARDY RIGHT NOW.

9:55:30AM I'VE GOT THIS CHURCH ON SCOTT STREET AND THEY TREAT ME LIKE

9:55:33AM A DAMN DOG.

9:55:35AM AND IT'S NOT RIGHT.

9:55:37AM TALK ABOUT ME.

9:55:37AM AND NOW WE'VE GOT A MAYOR HERE, LORD HAVE MERCY, SHE'S A

9:55:42AM WOMAN IN A MAN'S BODY.

9:55:43AM WHERE ALL THAT CRAP COME FROM?

9:55:45AM JESUS CHRIST.

9:55:46AM WE NEED HELP.

9:55:48AM THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK MY PEACE.

9:55:50AM I GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO SAY, BUT YOU ALL AIN'T GOING

9:55:54AM TO GIVE ME THE TIME.

9:55:55AM GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.

9:55:57AM ACT LIKE A HUMAN BEING.

9:56:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

9:56:05AM MY NAME IS VERLENE.

9:56:08AM I WAS HERE LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH.




9:56:11AM TALKING ABOUT THE POOR.

9:56:12AM AT LEAST THE POOR BLACK PEOPLE.

9:56:16AM THE ONES SO POOR WE CAN'T AFFORD THE O-O-R.

9:56:23AM I CAN ONLY AFFORD THE P.

9:56:25AM AND IT COMES CONSISTENTLY WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

9:56:27AM NOW, THE GOVERNMENT SAY THEY PROVIDE ME A SAFE, SECURE AND

9:56:30AM SAFE HOUSING.

9:56:30AM AND DIGNITY.

9:56:33AM I STAND HERE TWO MONTHS, SOMEBODY LYING.

9:56:37AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE GOVERNMENT OR THE CITY OF TAMPA OR

9:56:42AM HOUSING, I DON'T KNOW.

9:56:43AM I'M NOT SURE WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THIS.

9:56:46AM BUT I ASK YOU TO COME OUT TO MY APARTMENT.

9:56:48AM I LIVE AT 131st STREET.

9:56:52AM 1915, EAST 131st STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

9:56:56AM VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, HUD HOUSING.

9:56:59AM FEDERAL HOUSING.

9:57:00AM I DON'T KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THIS, BUT THIS

9:57:05AM GENTLEMAN IS SMOKING DOPE.

9:57:06AM IT COMES THROUGH THE VENTILATION.

9:57:09AM CORROSION.

9:57:11AM DRUG INFESTED.

9:57:12AM AM I BEING REJECTED?

9:57:14AM ARE MY OTHER PEOPLE BEING REJECTED BECAUSE WE'RE SO POOR WE

9:57:17AM CAN'T AFFORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.




9:57:19AM WE CAN'T HAVE A DECENT PLACE TO STAY.

9:57:20AM I DON'T SMOKE DOPE.

9:57:22AM I'M TIRED OF SMOKING IT.

9:57:24AM DOUBLE EAR INFECTION.

9:57:26AM RESPIRATORY INFECTION.

9:57:28AM I'M SMELLING THIS EVERY DAY.

9:57:29AM HE STARTED AT 7:30 LAST NIGHT.

9:57:32AM HE QUIT ABOUT 10:20 THIS MORNING.

9:57:34AM IT'S 55 DEGREES OUTSIDE.

9:57:36AM I'M SITTING OUTSIDE DRESSED LIKE THIS WITH A BLANKET FOR TWO

9:57:41AM AND A HALF HOURS BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR FRESH AIR. AGAIN,

9:57:46AM WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ME HAVING AN ADEQUATE, SAFE, SECURE,

9:57:50AM WITH DIGNITY PLACE TO STAY?

9:57:53AM CITY COUNCIL, COUNTY COMMISSION, HUD HOUSING, AFFORDABLE

9:57:56AM HOUSING, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?

9:58:02AM I'M GOING TO KEEP COMING DOWN HERE BECAUSE I KEEP GETTING

9:58:05AM SICK.

9:58:05AM I KEEP GETTING SICK.

9:58:08AM I'M TAKING ANTIBIOTICS.

9:58:10AM WHY?

9:58:10AM I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE GOING THROUGH THIS.

9:58:15AM THEM OTHER POOR BLACK PEOPLE, THEY GOING THROUGH IT ALSO.

9:58:18AM THEY DON'T COME DOWN HERE AND TALK, SO I'M THAT OTHER VOICE

9:58:22AM FOR THEM.

9:58:23AM SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING ON.




9:58:25AM I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I'VE

9:58:29AM BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THIS SAME ISSUE.

9:58:33AM GUESS WHAT THEY DO.

9:58:35AM NOTHING.

9:58:35AM SOMEBODY IS LISTENING.

9:58:38AM THANK YOU.

9:58:39AM SOMEBODY IS LISTENING.

9:58:40AM SOMEBODY IS TALKING.

9:58:41AM BUT NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING.

9:58:45AM I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE SINCE MARCH OF 2019.

9:58:48AM I'VE BEEN TO THE ER.

9:58:50AM I'VE HAD RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS.

9:58:52AM I'VE NEVER DEALT WITH ANY OF THIS UNTIL I CAME TO TAMPA,

9:58:57AM FLORIDA AND I'M SO POOR THAT I CANNOT HAVE A DECENT PLACE,

9:59:02AM SECURE PLACE, NO DRUG INFESTED -- CORROSION IN MY AIR

9:59:08AM BREATHING SPACE.

9:59:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.

9:59:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

9:59:11AM NEXT, PLEASE.

9:59:18AM >> HELLO.

9:59:18AM MARVIN WRIGHT.

9:59:19AM I'M COMING TO SPEAK ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS ON THE 34th STREET

9:59:25AM AREA.

9:59:26AM PRETTY MUCH I FOUND THAT THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE NOT DESIRED BY

9:59:33AM THE COUNTRY OR THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE.




9:59:35AM GENERALLY, ROUNDABOUTS INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS BY

9:59:40AM APPROXIMATELY UP TO 30% IN THOSE AREAS WHERE ROUNDABOUTS

9:59:46AM EXIST.

9:59:46AM THE INCREASED NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS WOULD INCREASE AUTO

9:59:50AM INSURANCE RATES FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT GENERAL AREA AS

9:59:54AM FAR AS EAST TAMPA.

9:59:57AM THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE NOT SET UP FOR LARGE VEHICLE TRAVEL.

10:00:02AM THERE'S ACTUALLY A FIRE STATION ON 34th STREET, WHICH THAT

10:00:06AM WOULD INHIBIT OR FORCE THEM TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT PATH IN

10:00:10AM ORDER TO FIX IT, I GUESS THE FIRE STATION AREA.

10:00:17AM I ALSO OBSERVED MYSELF THAT PEDESTRIANS GENERALLY ATTEMPT TO

10:00:21AM AVOID CROSSING ROUNDABOUT LOCATIONS.

10:00:29AM LET'S SEE.

10:00:30AM ALSO, AS FAR AS HOW TO ADDRESS ROUNDABOUTS, STILL AN

10:00:36AM UNCERTAINTY FOR ENGINEERS INSTALLING THE ROUNDABOUTS AND THE

10:00:41AM PUBLIC IN GENERAL AS FAR AS HOW THEY CAN TRAVEL THROUGH

10:00:45AM THOSE ROUNDABOUT LOCATIONS.

10:00:46AM THE TRAVEL THROUGH THE 34th ROUNDABOUT AREA, I GUESS

10:00:52AM PEOPLE TRAVELING THROUGH THOSE AREAS STILL WOULD BE REQUIRED

10:00:55AM TO TRAVEL THROUGH INTERSECTIONS WITH TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

10:01:00AM SO THE NUMBER OF ROUNDABOUTS IN COMPARISON TO THE

10:01:04AM INTERSECTIONS WITH TRAFFIC LIGHTS WOULD BE VERY MINIMAL.

10:01:09AM SO THAT'S NOT EVEN I GUESS A RELATIVE INCREASE AS FAR AS

10:01:17AM SAFETY GOES.

10:01:19AM LET'S SEE, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN I GUESS FOUR-WAY STOP SIGNS




10:01:26AM SET UP ON 34th STREET TO REDUCE THE TRAVEL SPEEDS OF

10:01:30AM VEHICLES TRAVELING THROUGH THOSE AREAS, AND THE FOUR-WAY

10:01:35AM STOP SIGNS IS EXPONENTIALLY MORE FEASIBLE THAN IMPLEMENTING

10:01:40AM ROUNDABOUTS.

10:01:43AM THE FUNDS WOULD BE BETTER SPENT TO IMPROVE THE ROADS AND

10:01:47AM ALSO TO IMPROVE THE SIDEWALKS IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA AND

10:01:52AM PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD BE THE FIRST CONCERN AS OPPOSED TO

10:01:57AM TRYING TO IMPLEMENT ROUNDABOUTS, WHICH ARE NOT DESIRED.

10:02:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:02:03AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:02:04AM NEXT, PLEASE.

10:02:05AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE NEXT TO THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE IN THE

10:02:08AM RED SHIRT, ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:02:11AM RAISE YOUR HAND IF SO.

10:02:13AM OKAY.

10:02:13AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:02:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.

10:02:19AM GERALDINE ROGERS TOMBS.

10:02:22AM MY PURPOSE IS TO CONTINUE EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR

10:02:25AM PLAN TO INSTALL ROUNDABOUTS ON 34th STREET IN EAST TAMPA.

10:02:30AM OUT OF CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS' SAFETY.

10:02:34AM ROUNDABOUTS WOULD BE INSTALLED IN AREAS WITH A HIGH

10:02:36AM CONCENTRATION OF CHILDREN.

10:02:38AM WHEN ROUNDABOUTS ARE KNOWN TO HAVE A HIGH INCIDENCE OF

10:02:40AM TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS.




10:02:42AM THIS IS NEW DATA THAT YOU ALL SHOULDN'T BE RESEARCHING.

10:02:46AM THE WORD OF GOD STATES THAT WE SHOULD WALK CIRCUMSPECTLY,

10:02:51AM EVALUATE THE ENTIRE SITUATION.

10:02:53AM I SURMISE THAT THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED.

10:02:56AM I FEEL THAT ROUNDABOUTS ON 34th STREET FAILED TO TAKE INTO

10:03:00AM CONSIDERATION THE ENDANGERMENT OF CHILDREN, PEDESTRIANS, AND

10:03:03AM BICYCLISTS.

10:03:05AM YOUR IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES WHEN THERE IS A

10:03:09AM QUESTION ABOUT ROADS BEING PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, THE

10:03:14AM HILLSBOROUGH MPO ADVISORY BOARD SHOULD BE CONSULTED.

10:03:17AM HAS THAT HAPPENED?

10:03:17AM YOU ALL NEED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

10:03:21AM IN MY OPINION, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT STAFF FAILED TO

10:03:24AM COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA'S 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

10:03:28AM ACCORDING TO MS. DUNCAN'S PRESENTATION ON THE 34th STREET

10:03:32AM PROJECT.

10:03:32AM THERE WAS NO MENTION OF WHETHER IN HER PRESENTATION AT THE

10:03:36AM LAST MEETING, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF WHETHER PUBLIC

10:03:38AM HEARINGS WERE HELD OR THE DATES THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE

10:03:42AM SCHEDULED.

10:03:43AM MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS IS NO SUBSTITUTION FOR A

10:03:48AM PUBLIC HEARING.

10:03:48AM NO COORDINATION WITH THE MPO ADVISORY BOARD.

10:03:52AM YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THAT.

10:03:54AM THAT'S POLICY NUMBER MBY, POLICY 4.1.3, WHICH ENSURES




10:04:01AM BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY ROADS.

10:04:04AM POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN PEDESTRIAN AND MOTOR VEHICLES

10:04:07AM SHOULD BE MINIMIZED, ACCORDING TO POLICY LU 443.2 AND NE

10:04:13AM POLICY 5.1.1, THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL NOVEMBER 21st, 2019

10:04:19AM MEETING TRANSCRIPT FAILED TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL

10:04:23AM APPROVED REGARDING THE 34th STREET ROUNDABOUT PROJECT.

10:04:26AM THIS INFORMATION IS NEEDED TO FILE AN APPEAL.

10:04:30AM PERHAPS ROUNDABOUTS DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH TO PROMOTE

10:04:34AM PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

10:04:36AM LEAH REED WAS STRUCK AND KILLED BY A CAR WHILE CROSSING THE

10:04:39AM ROAD AT 40th STREET NEAR A ROUNDABOUT LOCATION IN MAY OF

10:04:42AM 2018.

10:04:43AM I KNOW ALL OF YOU REMEMBER THAT.

10:04:44AM THE NEIGHBORS SAID THAT THEY ARE AFRAID TO CROSS THE STREET

10:04:48AM AT RIVER PINES APARTMENTS.

10:04:50AM THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA'S

10:04:54AM TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DECISION IN REFERENCE TO

10:04:58AM ROUNDABOUTS.

10:04:58AM RECENT RESEARCH REFLECTS THE 30% INCREASE IN ROUNDABOUTS IN

10:05:02AM THOSE AREAS.

10:05:03AM I SPOKE WITH MR. McKINNEY WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF

10:05:07AM TRANSPORTATION, AN ENGINEER, WHO CONCURRED THAT I HAVE A

10:05:11AM LEGITIMATE PEDESTRIAN CONCERN ABOUT THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN.

10:05:14AM MR. McKINNEY STATED THAT YOU ALL NEED TO LISTEN.

10:05:18AM AND THE OTHER POINT I NEED TO MAKE AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO




10:05:21AM TAKE A SECOND.

10:05:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: 30 SECONDS, MA'AM.

10:05:23AM >> THE CITY OF TAMPA ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ADMINISTRATORS

10:05:25AM OUGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT CITIZEN SAFETY, TOO.

10:05:29AM YOU WOULDN'T WANT THE CITY TO BE SUED FOR CULPABLE

10:05:34AM NEGLIGENCE.

10:05:34AM OUR LIVES DO MATTER.

10:05:35AM THANK YOU.

10:05:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

10:05:37AM NEXT, PLEASE.

10:05:43AM >> HI.

10:05:44AM I'M JIM DEMAURO FROM THE RESIDENCES OF FRANKLIN STREET.

10:05:48AM I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON THE BRICK REMOVAL, WHICH IS SCHEDULED

10:05:54AM FOR 10:30.

10:05:55AM I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SUPPOSED TO SPEAK NOW.

10:05:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK AT 10:30.

10:05:59AM ACTUALLY, YEAH, THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING RESCHEDULED.

10:06:02AM MR. SHELBY, WHAT NUMBER IS THAT?

10:06:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 47, I BELIEVE.

10:06:08AM IT'S A 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.

10:06:13AM NUMBER 47.

10:06:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS WAIT UNTIL IT'S

10:06:17AM ACTUALLY BEING RESCHEDULED.

10:06:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALTHOUGH, SIR, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN,

10:06:22AM THERE'S GOING TO BE A REQUEST FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO




10:06:24AM HAVE THAT TAKEN UP, ALONG WITH RELATED ITEMS.

10:06:27AM THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED ON A REQUEST OF THE

10:06:30AM ADMINISTRATION TO FEBRUARY 6th OF NEXT YEAR, 2020.

10:06:33AM IT WILL COME BACK -- IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HANDLED TODAY AND

10:06:37AM COMMENTS CAN BE TAKEN ALONG WITH WHATEVER THE RELATED CASES

10:06:41AM ARE ON FEBRUARY 6th.

10:06:43AM >> ALL RIGHT.

10:06:44AM I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

10:06:45AM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE

10:06:49AM FROM THE REPS, FROM THE AREA, WHO WOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN IN

10:06:52AM SUPPORT OF NOT REMOVING THOSE BRICKS.

10:06:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:06:55AM HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

10:06:56AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:06:58AM NOW, WITH THE ENDING OF PUBLIC COMMENT, WE MOVE FORWARD --

10:07:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A QUICK THING ON THE

10:07:04AM ROUNDABOUTS, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED OVER AND

10:07:08AM OVER.

10:07:08AM I JUST WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT.

10:07:11AM THE INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY AND THE FEDERAL

10:07:14AM HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAVE STATISTICS -- NOW, I'M NOT A

10:07:19AM TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'M JUST READING THEIR STATISTICS --

10:07:21AM IT SAYS ROUNDABOUTS HAVE A 37% REDUCTION IN OVERALL

10:07:25AM COLLISIONS.

10:07:26AM A 75% REDUCTION IN INJURY COLLISIONS.




10:07:29AM A 90% REDUCTION IN FATALITY COLLISIONS.

10:07:33AM THIS IS ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

10:07:35AM 40% REDUCTION IN PEDESTRIAN COLLISIONS.

10:07:38AM IT SAYS SOME OF THE BENEFITS INCLUDE LOWER TRAVEL SPEEDS, NO

10:07:42AM LIGHT TO BEAT AND ONE-WAY TRAVEL AROUND THE CIRCLE.

10:07:46AM SO ANYWAY, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS WILLY-NILLY.

10:07:49AM OUR DEPARTMENT -- TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT HAS PUT A LOT OF TIME

10:07:53AM AND EFFORT INTO THIS.

10:07:55AM IT'S ALSO, I BELIEVE, PROVEN NATIONALLY THAT THIS IS A

10:07:58AM SAFETY -- A SAFER WAY TO DO IT.

10:08:00AM I KNOW CHANGE IS NOT EASY, BUT THIS IS A CHANGE FOR THE

10:08:04AM BETTER.

10:08:05AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:08:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:08:07AM OKAY.

10:08:07AM NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 52 FOR F.D.O.T.

10:08:12AM IS F.D.O.T. HERE?

10:08:14AM PASTOR, I'M SORRY, NOT RECOGNIZED.

10:08:22AM SIR, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE NOT RECOGNIZED.

10:08:24AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

10:08:24AM WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM 52, IF F.D.O.T. WISHES TO COME

10:08:28AM FORWARD.

10:08:29AM GO AHEAD.

10:08:32AM I WANT TO SAY, TOO, BEFORE F.D.O.T. BEGINS WHY I BROUGHT

10:08:35AM THIS ITEM FORWARD.




10:08:36AM WE HAVE HERE AND WE'LL BE HEARING FROM HIM IN A LITTLE BIT,

10:08:41AM MEL LOHN FROM MEL'S HOT DOGS WHO IS HERE.

10:08:43AM WE HAD AN INCIDENT AT MEL'S HOT DOGS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, A

10:08:46AM COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WHERE A VEHICLE LITERALLY CRASHED INTO

10:08:49AM THE RESTAURANT.

10:08:50AM THANK GOD, ACCORDING TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NOBODY IN

10:08:53AM THE RESTAURANT I BELIEVE WAS HURT.

10:08:55AM THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING.

10:08:57AM YOU KNOW, I NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT

10:09:02AM BUSCH BOULEVARD AND JUST HOW IMPORTANT OF A CORRIDOR THAT

10:09:05AM IS.

10:09:06AM AS YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, MA'AM, TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:09:09AM IT'S POTENTIALLY A CORRIDOR TO A TOURIST DESTINATION HERE IN

10:09:13AM TAMPA.

10:09:13AM IT'S POTENTIALLY A CORRIDOR TO SUCH A VIBRANT AND GROWING

10:09:18AM AREA, WHEN YOU INCLUDE ESPECIALLY FOWLER, USF, ET CETERA.

10:09:22AM RIGHT NOW, IT IS ESSENTIALLY A CORRIDOR OF NEGLECT, AS FAR

10:09:24AM AS I'M CONCERNED.

10:09:26AM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, AND I KNOW

10:09:28AM THAT OBVIOUSLY F.D.O.T. IS DOING THE CORRIDOR STUDY NOW.

10:09:31AM I'M SURE YOU'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.

10:09:33AM THAT IS TAKING A LOOK AT DESIGN FOR A LOWER SPEED LIMIT,

10:09:37AM MAKING BUSCH BOULEVARD MORE OF A WALKABLE COMMUNITY IN TERMS

10:09:40AM OF FOLKS BEING ABLE TO GET AROUND, ET CETERA.

10:09:42AM AND A PLACE THAT REALLY, REALLY VALUES THE WELFARE AND




10:09:46AM SAFETY, ET CETERA, OF PEDESTRIANS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S

10:09:49AM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY.

10:09:50AM SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU, MA'AM, AND WE'LL

10:09:53AM TALK AFTERWARDS.

10:09:54AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:09:55AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:09:56AM >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNCILMAN.

10:09:59AM THANK YOU, BOARD OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.

10:10:02AM MY NAME IS EDITH WONG.

10:10:04AM I AM HERE -- [AUDIO DROP]

10:10:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU COULD, MA'AM, PLEASE, A LITTLE BIT

10:10:10AM LOUDER, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

10:10:12AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:10:17AM >> BUSCH BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SPANS FROM THE WEST

10:10:23AM ON ARMENIA AVENUE ALL THE WAY TO 56th STREET AND THEN

10:10:27AM LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IT SERVES AS

10:10:31AM THE FUNCTIONAL ARTERIAL, AND IT SPANS A REGION FROM THE

10:10:37AM SUBURBAN TO URBAN.

10:10:38AM WHAT REALLY THAT TELLS US IS WE HAVE A PORTION, A LARGE

10:10:47AM PORTION OF COMMUTER TRAFFIC, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE

10:10:50AM PRESENCE OF BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS.

10:10:52AM WHAT F.D.O.T. LOOKS AT IS WE APPROACH THE F.D.O.T. FROM A

10:10:59AM MULTIFACETED APPROACH, WHICH IS TAKING EDUCATION,

10:11:02AM ENGINEERING AND ENFORCEMENT.

10:11:03AM FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BIKE




10:11:07AM WALK TAMPA BAY TO BASICALLY SURVEY DRIVERS OF THE PERCEPTION

10:11:15AM OF DRIVING BUSCH BOULEVARD AS WELL AS DOING ON-STREET

10:11:20AM EDUCATION TO LET THEM KNOW THE SAFE USE OF THE ROADWAY.

10:11:25AM WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S

10:11:27AM OFFICE.

10:11:29AM BASICALLY, HIGH VISIBILITY ENFORCEMENT GRANT, WHICH EVEN

10:11:36AM THOUGH THEY ARE THERE TO ENFORCE THE SPEED, THEIR PRIMARY

10:11:39AM PURPOSE REALLY IS TO GET TO INTERFACE WITH ROAD USERS, MAYBE

10:11:45AM PROVIDE BIKE LIGHTS, REFLECTIVE MATERIAL TO ENCOURAGE THEM

10:11:50AM TO USE THE ROAD MORE SAFELY.

10:11:52AM NOW, SPEAKING OF ENGINEERING, WE DO HAVE SHORT-TERM, MIDTERM

10:11:58AM AND LONG-TERM PROJECTS.

10:12:00AM IN THE SHORT-TERM, WE REALLY FOCUS ON WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD,

10:12:04AM WHICH IS WEST OF THE INTERSTATE AND EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD,

10:12:07AM EAST OF THE INTERSTATE AS SEPARATE PROJECTS.

10:12:10AM NOW, FOR WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD, THERE WAS A RECENT

10:12:14AM RESURFACING.

10:12:16AM WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADD SEVERAL MEDIAN

10:12:20AM ISLANDS AND TRAFFIC SEPARATORS.

10:12:22AM ESSENTIALLY REDUCES THE RANGE WHERE THE DRIVER HAS TO PAY

10:12:27AM ATTENTION TO WHEN DRIVING, AND THEN IT ALSO PROVIDES A

10:12:30AM REFUGE FOR PEDESTRIANS IF, IN FACT, THEY WANT TO CROSS THE

10:12:35AM STREET.

10:12:35AM NOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL SMALLER PROJECTS, MORE SPOT OR

10:12:44AM CORRIDORWIDE AND I HAVE LISTED THE MOST NOTABLE.




10:12:47AM THE FIRST ONE IS WE WORKED WITH THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH

10:12:51AM BOULEVARD, WHERE WE HAD SCHOOLCHILDREN CROSSING --

10:12:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, I'M SO SORRY.

10:12:58AM IF I CAN INTERRUPT YOU FOR ONE SECOND.

10:13:00AM IS THERE A PowerPoint WITH THIS?

10:13:03AM >> YES.

10:13:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: BRANDON, DO WE HAVE A MICROPHONE?

10:13:16AM IF WE MAY, A MICROPHONE.

10:13:19AM WE CAN'T HEAR UP HERE, UNFORTUNATELY.

10:13:24AM >> I HAVE LISTED A COUPLE OF THE SPOT CORRIDOR ENHANCEMENTS.

10:13:33AM MOST NOTABLE IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON PLACING SPEED FEEDBACK

10:13:38AM SIGNS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

10:13:41AM ESSENTIALLY, THIS REMINDS DRIVERS OF THE SPEED AND GIVES

10:13:49AM THEM A FEEDBACK.

10:13:52AM YOU'RE DRIVING A LITTLE BIT TOO FAST, MAYBE YOU WANT TO GO

10:13:54AM DOWN TO THE SPEED LIMIT.

10:13:56AM WE'VE ALSO BEEN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO

10:14:00AM INCORPORATE LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AT INTERSECTIONS AND ALSO

10:14:03AM ON THE CORRIDOR.

10:14:04AM NOW, TO MONITOR THE SPEED, WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS IN WHICH

10:14:11AM WE'RE COLLECTING DATA FROM THE SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS AS WELL

10:14:14AM AS FROM BLUETOOTH DEVICES.

10:14:16AM AND WE'VE BEEN USING THIS DATA TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN FURTHER

10:14:24AM -- HOW WE CAN FURTHER TAKE ACTIONS IN THE FUTURE.

10:14:28AM NOW, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO MIDTERM ACTIONS.




10:14:35AM WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD.

10:14:38AM NOW, FOR EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD, WE HAVE A PROJECT COMING THE

10:14:42AM SPRING OF 2020.

10:14:43AM WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE FOUR HAWKS AT THE LOCATIONS

10:14:52AM LISTED.

10:14:53AM WE HAD A SIMILAR PROJECT ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE WHERE WE

10:14:57AM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE A REDUCTION IN SPEED AS WELL AS A

10:15:01AM REDUCTION IN THE CRASHES.

10:15:03AM AND BASED ON THAT, WE HAVE -- WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A

10:15:09AM SPEED REDUCTION OF FIVE MILES AN HOUR AND A REDUCTION OF

10:15:13AM CRASHES OF 13 CRASHES A YEAR.

10:15:16AM NOW, FOR WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD, COMING IN 2025, WE ANTICIPATE

10:15:27AM A PROJECT TO IMPLEMENT SPEED MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, MOST

10:15:33AM NOTABLE ARE REDUCTION IN THE LANE WIDTH, ADDING A MEDIAN

10:15:37AM WHERE THE CURRENT TWO-WAY LEFT-TURN LANE IS, AND ALSO

10:15:41AM FILLING IN GAPS IN THE SIDEWALK.

10:15:43AM NOW, LOOKING FARTHER SOUTH FOR THE EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD, TO

10:15:52AM DO A SIMILAR APPROACH, WE'RE HOPING TO KICK OFF A STUDY, A

10:15:57AM SPEED MANAGEMENT STUDY TO EVALUATE THE CORRIDOR ON EAST

10:16:00AM BUSCH BOULEVARD AND SEE WHAT WE CAN INCORPORATE AS WE HAVE

10:16:05AM FOR THE WESTERN PORTION.

10:16:07AM SO THIS IS A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT F.D.O.T. IS WORKING ON

10:16:11AM FOR SAFETY AND SPEED MANAGEMENT.

10:16:14AM THANK YOU.

10:16:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.




10:16:15AM BEFORE COUNCILMAN GUDES, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR

10:16:18AM YOUR WORK, BUT I ALSO, MR. LOHN, DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND

10:16:23AM SAY ANYTHING, SIR?

10:16:24AM WE HAVE HERE MEL LOHN FROM MEL'S HOT DOGS, WHO IS HERE,

10:16:31AM WHOSE BUSINESS WAS IMPACTED BY THE CRASH.

10:16:33AM WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU NEED?

10:16:35AM THREE MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES?

10:16:38AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:16:42AM MY NAME IS MEL LOHN.

10:16:45AM MY WONDERFUL BRIDE VIRGINIA AND I OWN MEL'S HOT DOGS.

10:16:48AM WE'RE CONCERNED, AND I APPRECIATE IMMENSELY YOUR BRINGING

10:16:52AM THIS TO THE FOREFRONT.

10:16:53AM WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 47 YEARS.

10:16:56AM WE'VE WATCHED BUSCH BOULEVARD BECOME AN INTENSELY DANGEROUS

10:17:02AM STREET.

10:17:04AM I DON'T REMEMBER ISSUES LIKE THIS IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S

10:17:07AM BECOMING COMMON AND FREQUENT.

10:17:09AM I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE

10:17:12AM FLORIDA D.O.T. AND EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE AVERAGE SPEED ON

10:17:15AM BUSCH BOULEVARD IS 52 MILES AN HOUR.

10:17:18AM THE AVERAGE SPEED IS 52 MILES AN HOUR.

10:17:22AM I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN VIERA AND I WERE SITTING IN THE STORE

10:17:25AM ONE TIME AND WE WATCHED SOMEBODY GO BY, I DON'T KNOW, 70,

10:17:29AM 80 MILES AN HOUR.

10:17:29AM IT'S JUST NOT UNCOMMON.




10:17:31AM WE'VE GOT THIS JEWEL IN TAMPA.

10:17:35AM BUSCH GARDENS, WHICH THE PEOPLE OF BUSCH GARDENS WERE

10:17:38AM INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO LOCATE NEXT TO MY RESTAURANT, AND WE

10:17:42AM HAVE A STREET THAT PASSES IN FRONT OF IT THAT'S KILLING

10:17:46AM PEOPLE.

10:17:47AM GO TO TAMPA.

10:17:47AM GO TO BUSCH BOULEVARD, GET HIT BY A CAR.

10:17:50AM IT'S GREAT PRESS.

10:17:51AM THE LOGIC BEHIND NOT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT, WHICH IS VERY

10:17:56AM LOW ON TEMPLE TERRACE, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU CROSS 56th

10:17:59AM STREET.

10:17:59AM GOES FROM 45 TO 30.

10:18:01AM THE LOGIC BEHIND IT IS, WELL, WE DO STUDIES.

10:18:05AM THE ENGINEER, "WE DO STUDIES."

10:18:08AM STOP STUDYING.

10:18:10AM CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT.

10:18:10AM MAKE THE STREET SAFE.

10:18:12AM DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY.

10:18:13AM SAVE LIVES.

10:18:14AM IT'S VERY LOGICAL.

10:18:15AM APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

10:18:16AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

10:18:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:18:19AM I APPRECIATE IT.

10:18:20AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.




10:18:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:18:22AM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE.

10:18:24AM AS YOU KNOW, WE BOTH SHARE BUSCH BOULEVARD.

10:18:29AM MY CONCERNS -- WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WITH THE INFORMATION

10:18:36AM THAT YOU LAID OUT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD,

10:18:40AM WHICH I WORKED AT AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN MY TIME,

10:18:44AM I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE NUMBERS WHEN YOU GO CITATIONS,

10:18:49AM SPEEDING ONES, BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL

10:18:51AM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EVER PATROLLING BUSCH BOULEVARD AND YOU

10:18:55AM HAVE LISTED HERE THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE

10:18:58AM BECAUSE ON BUSCH BOULEVARD FROM ARMENIA, SUBWAY, THERE IS A

10:19:03AM MARKER IN THE LINE HAS FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEN MY

10:19:06AM RECOLLECTION, ABOUT 51st OR 52nd, START TEMPLE TERRACE

10:19:10AM TO 56th.

10:19:12AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM AS IT

10:19:14AM RELATES TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE COUNTY OR IN TEMPLE

10:19:16AM TERRACE.

10:19:18AM >> I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

10:19:20AM SPEED MANAGEMENT IS A HOT TOPIC IN FLORIDA D.O.T.

10:19:25AM I THINK YOU WORK WITH OUR SECRETARY GWYNN.

10:19:30AM HE REALLY PAID ATTENTION TO YOUR REQUEST.

10:19:32AM HE LOCATE DISTRICT FUNDS TO WORK WITH SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND

10:19:38AM TPD TO ENFORCE THROUGH THE SPEED ENFORCEMENT FOR STREET

10:19:42AM CORRIDOR, BUSCH BOULEVARD, FOWLER AVENUE AND HILLSBOROUGH

10:19:47AM AVENUE.




10:19:48AM LATER, WHEN WE WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TPD, THEY

10:19:51AM SAY BOTH AGENCIES HAVE INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT.

10:19:55AM TPD CAN HELP SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

10:19:58AM SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN HELP TPD, TOO.

10:20:00AM THE FIRST PHASE, YOU'LL SEE THE STATISTIC IS THE ONE JUST

10:20:03AM ENDED BY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

10:20:06AM THEY ADDRESSED BUSCH BOULEVARD.

10:20:08AM TPD RIGHT NOW IS JUST STARTING THE SAME PROGRAM.

10:20:12AM SO WE SPREAD THE MONEY TO HAVE A SIX-MONTH CAMPAIGN DOING

10:20:17AM THE BUSCH BOULEVARD, FOWLER AVENUE AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE,

10:20:21AM DOING THE SPEED MANAGEMENT.

10:20:23AM TRY TO TELL THE DRIVER, YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN.

10:20:26AM THIS IS A SHORT-TERM ACTION WE'RE DOING.

10:20:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT FOR ME,

10:20:34AM BEING A LONGTIME LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, KNOWING THOSE

10:20:37AM STREETS THAT YOU'RE NAMING, I DON'T RECALL EVER THE

10:20:41AM SHERIFF'S OFFICE GIVING THIS MANY CITATIONS WITHIN THE CITY

10:20:44AM LIMITS OR IN TEMPLE TERRACE.

10:20:46AM UNLESS THIS GRANT WAS GIVEN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO

10:20:48AM THIS PARTICULAR STUDY THEN, OKAY.

10:20:50AM BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING ACSO STATISTIC DATA FROM 5/8 TO 5/8/19

10:20:56AM TO 9/17 WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NUMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO

10:21:00AM REALLY SEE THE SHERIFF'S NUMBERS SAYING THAT.

10:21:02AM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT NUMBER OF DEPUTIES GIVING TICKETS

10:21:06AM ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND THAT STRETCH WITHIN THE CITY




10:21:09AM LIMITS OR BUSCH BOULEVARD.

10:21:10AM I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

10:21:11AM TO ME, I DON'T THINK THESE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE UNLESS THAT

10:21:14AM GRANT WAS GIVEN TO SPECIFICALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF TPD

10:21:18AM OR THE TEMPLE TERRACE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

10:21:20AM FOR ME, I NEED MORE ACCURATE DATA BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS

10:21:23AM DATA IS CORRECT, SIR.

10:21:25AM >> WE CAN PROVIDE THE DATA.

10:21:26AM I MONITORED THOSE STATISTICS WEEKLY.

10:21:30AM I EVEN KNOW THE TIME THEY WENT OUT TO DO THE ENFORCEMENT.

10:21:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, UNLESS THAT GRANT -- SHERIFF'S

10:21:38AM OFFICE WILL GO OUT THERE AND SET UP A SPEED TRAP OR SET UP

10:21:42AM SOME TYPE OF MONITORING, I COULD GO ALONG WITH THAT.

10:21:45AM IF YOU ARE SAYING AVERAGE DAY THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, THESE

10:21:48AM MONTHS THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS OUT THERE GIVING

10:21:50AM SPEEDING TICKETS ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, ON BUSCH BOULEVARD,

10:21:53AM FOWLER AVENUE, MY EXPERIENCE, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT.

10:21:58AM UNLESS I CAN SEE SOME ACTUAL -- WITH DEPUTY THINGS ON

10:22:03AM TICKETS.

10:22:04AM >> WE CAN PROVIDE THE INFO.

10:22:06AM EASY.

10:22:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:22:08AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:22:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: PARTLY A D.O.T. POINT BUT MAYBE A SYSTEMIC

10:22:14AM ISSUE.




10:22:14AM YESTERDAY I MET WITH SOME NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, AND SPEEDING

10:22:17AM IS A SYSTEMIC ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE CITY APPARENTLY.

10:22:19AM I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF.

10:22:20AM I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IT.

10:22:22AM BUT I'M GETTING LOTS OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE RACING

10:22:25AM THROUGH SCHOOL ZONES, RACING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I

10:22:28AM DRIVE BUSCH BOULEVARD EVERY DAY -- I MEAN, NOT BUSCH --

10:22:33AM BAYSHORE EVERY DAY.

10:22:34AM AND EVERY DAY ON BAYSHORE I HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON PASSING

10:22:37AM ME GOING 65, 70 MILES AN HOUR.

10:22:41AM WE HAVE A SYSTEMIC ISSUE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

10:22:44AM ADDRESS.

10:22:44AM MAYBE IN A SEPARATE CONVERSATION WE COULD TRY TO GET CHIEF

10:22:47AM OF STAFF, SINCE HE WAS HEAD OF THE POLICE FORCE, BUT WE NEED

10:22:51AM TO FIGURE OUT, PART OF IT IS DESIGNED AND IN ADDITION THE

10:22:54AM LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING, PART OF IT MAYBE ENFORCEMENT.

10:22:57AM BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO THIS.

10:23:00AM IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE DATA GOING BACKWARDS TO

10:23:04AM SEE IF THIS IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF AN ISSUE.

10:23:06AM SEEMS PEOPLE ARE ANGRIER, MORE IN A HURRY.

10:23:10AM THE OPPOSITE PART OF THAT, DESPITE THE NEW RULE, PEOPLE ARE

10:23:14AM STILL ON THEIR CELL PHONES, ON THE CELL PHONES AND SPEEDING

10:23:16AM OR STOPPED AT STOPLIGHTS AND NOT MOVING AND PEOPLE GET ANGRY

10:23:21AM AND SPEED AROUND THEM.

10:23:22AM THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF DANGEROUS THINGS HAPPENING.




10:23:25AM THAT'S ONE IDEA.

10:23:27AM I SAID MANY TIMES I THINK BUSCH BOULEVARD IS OUR GATEWAY TO

10:23:30AM THE WORLD.

10:23:31AM WE THINK THAT DOWNTOWN IS OUR FRONT DOOR.

10:23:33AM IT'S ACTUALLY BUSCH BOULEVARD.

10:23:34AM A LOT OF PEOPLE COME INTO THIS AREA THROUGH TAMPA AIRPORT,

10:23:38AM THANKFULLY, BUT ORLANDO HAS 70 MILLION TOURISTS A YEAR.

10:23:43AM A LOT OF THEM COME OVER TO BUSCH GARDENS.

10:23:45AM WHEN THEY SEE BUSCH BOULEVARD OR FOWLER AVENUE, THAT'S THEIR

10:23:48AM IMPRESSION OF TAMPA.

10:23:49AM AS I MET LOTS OF CEOs TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD, THAT'S

10:23:52AM WHAT THEY REMEMBER ABOUT TAMPA.

10:23:53AM MY QUESTION, I KNOW COUNCILMAN, VIERA, YOU WERE WORKING WITH

10:23:56AM THE MAYOR ON BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT.

10:23:58AM IS THAT HAPPENING PARALLEL TO THIS?

10:24:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT, COUNCILMAN

10:24:05AM CARLSON.

10:24:06AM ONE OF THE REASONS I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, NOW WITH THE

10:24:08AM DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING, WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT MOU FOR

10:24:12AM THE USF AREA, I THINK ON THE 19th.

10:24:14AM THERE'S DISCUSSIONS ON BUSCH BOULEVARD POTENTIALLY BEING

10:24:17AM INCLUDED WITHIN THAT VISION, WHICH IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD

10:24:19AM THING.

10:24:20AM BUT I SEE DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS AS PART AND PARCEL OF

10:24:23AM WHAT --




10:24:25AM [ENCODER AUDIO DROP]

10:24:27AM -- WHICH THIS IS CERTAINLY ABOUT 110%.

10:24:39AM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, OF COURSE, THAT IS SOMETHING PART

10:24:41AM AND PARCEL, WHICH IS WHY THIS WAS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.

10:24:44AM WE CAN'T TAKE A LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORTH

10:24:46AM TAMPA, USF, BUSCH BOULEVARD AREA WITHOUT TAKING A LOOK AT

10:24:50AM BASIC QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUES SUCH AS SPEEDING, SUCH AS THE

10:24:53AM SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS, OF BICYCLISTS, OF FOLKS IN THEIR

10:24:57AM CARS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

10:24:58AM I THINK THEY ALL GO PART AND PARCEL OF IT.

10:25:01AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE HUMAN

10:25:04AM CAPITAL, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY

10:25:06AM DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES AND AREAS THAT ARE FILLED WITH

10:25:09AM WORKING FAMILIES, ET CETERA, I THINK IS INCOMPLETE.

10:25:12AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION HERE TODAY.

10:25:14AM THOSE TWO ARE MARRIED AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING A DIVORCE.

10:25:18AM SO, YEAH.

10:25:19AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

10:25:20AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:25:23AM ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANTED JUST TO

10:25:26AM POUND UPON TODAY IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO LOWER THAT SPEED

10:25:30AM LIMIT ON BUSCH BOULEVARD.

10:25:31AM I KNOW THAT THERE'S A CORRIDOR STUDY -- AND I APOLOGIZE, YOU

10:25:36AM MAY HAVE SAID THIS.

10:25:37AM WHEN WILL THE CORRIDOR STUDY BE FINISHED OR COMPLETED?




10:25:40AM >> THAT'S THE ONE UNDER THE PLANNING, THEY ARE LOOKING --

10:25:45AM THEY ARE WORKING WITH A LOT OF PARTNERS TO SETTLE DOWN A

10:25:51AM SMALLER ISSUE.

10:25:53AM HOPEFULLY SOMETIME NEXT YEAR.

10:25:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

10:25:55AM I WOULD ECHO WHAT MY FRIEND AND CONSTITUENT, MR. MEL LOHN

10:25:59AM SAID, WHICH IS DESIGN -- YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYDAY FOLKS TAKE

10:26:02AM A LOOK AT EXPLANATIONS AS WE NEED MORE DESIGN, DESIGN.

10:26:07AM EVERY DAY PEOPLE GO, HEY, LISTEN, PEOPLE ARE DYING.

10:26:10AM LITERALLY HAD A VEHICLE PLOW THROUGH ONE OF OUR MOST

10:26:16AM WELL-KNOWN RESTAURANTS IN TAMPA, MEL'S HOT DOGS.

10:26:19AM [ENCODER AUDIO DROP]

10:26:22AM 262 IN 2017.

10:26:31AM 208 IN THE 2018, 191 CRASHES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NO GOOD.

10:26:38AM THAT'S YEAR AFTER YEAR OF CATASTROPHIC INJURIES AND

10:26:40AM SIGNIFICANT DAMAGES THAT ARE BEING HELD ACROSS BUSCH

10:26:43AM BOULEVARD.

10:26:44AM I THINK MY MESSAGE TO YOU ALL IS, PLEASE, LET'S GET

10:26:47AM VIGOROUSLY MOVING WITH ACTION RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW TO

10:26:50AM PROTECT THE LIVES AND WELFARE OF PEOPLE ON BUSCH BOULEVARD.

10:26:54AM >> WE HEARD THE MESSAGE.

10:26:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS REFERRING

10:26:59AM TO, IF THEY CAN PUT UP THE FRAME THAT HAS SHORT-TERM ACTION,

10:27:03AM TWO YEARS, SHOWS THE HIGH VISIBILITY ENFORCEMENT AND

10:27:06AM MANAGEMENT.




10:27:10AM >> THE SLIDE?

10:27:11AM YES.

10:27:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT THAT ONE.

10:27:13AM SHORT-TERM ACTIONS 0 TO 2.

10:27:16AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO, THOSE NUMBERS.

10:27:35AM BEING A LONGTIME LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSON, KNOWING BUSCH

10:27:40AM BOULEVARD, WORKING THAT AND YOU INDICATE THE SHERIFF'S

10:27:43AM OFFICE, THAT'S WHY I WAS QUESTIONING THOSE NUMBERS.

10:27:45AM IF YOU COULD GO BACK AND GET ME AN UPDATE ON THAT BECAUSE

10:27:47AM I'M THINKING MAYBE THAT STUDY WAS GIVEN TO US, IT WAS A

10:27:51AM GRANT VERSUS THE SHERIFF, BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL SEEING THE

10:27:54AM SHERIFF OUT THERE DOING LAW ENFORCEMENT DUTIES ON BUSCH

10:27:56AM BOULEVARD LIKE THAT.

10:27:58AM THANK YOU.

10:27:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:28:00AM I WANTED TO AGAIN THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF

10:28:04AM BUSCH AND FOWLER AND THAT CORRIDOR.

10:28:06AM I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

10:28:08AM IT IS ONE OF THE MOST IGNORED SIDELINED AREAS IN THE CITY.

10:28:11AM I DO BELIEVE WITH MODEST INVESTMENTS YOU CAN HAVE ROBUST

10:28:15AM MOVEMENT FORWARD IN THAT AREA.

10:28:16AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT.

10:28:18AM OKAY.

10:28:19AM NEXT, ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR

10:28:22AM RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?




10:28:23AM BEING NONE, WE MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 4, WHICH IS BEING

10:28:32AM -- DID WE ALREADY MOVE ITEM NUMBER 4?

10:28:35AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?

10:28:37AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:28:41AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:28:42AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:28:42AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:28:43AM NEXT, ITEM NUMBER 5.

10:28:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

10:28:52AM JAN McLEAN, OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.

10:28:56AM I'M HERE FOR FIRST READING OF PROPOSED REVISIONS TO VARIOUS

10:28:59AM SECTIONS IN CHAPTER 26.

10:29:02AM THIS IS THE FIRST READING, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO ANSWER ANY

10:29:07AM QUESTIONS, DO ANY EXPLANATIONS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

10:29:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:29:11AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:29:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, JAN, NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THIS

10:29:15AM BUT AS IT RELATED TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT, IT CAME TO MY

10:29:18AM ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE WATER RESTRICTIONS, AND WE HAVE

10:29:26AM ENFORCEMENT, WHEN PEOPLE ARE WATERING ON THE WRONG DAYS,

10:29:30AM WHAT HAVE YOU.

10:29:31AM AND IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION FROM A CONSTITUENT THAT WE DON'T

10:29:35AM GIVE WARNINGS, THAT WHATEVER GROUP WE HIRE TO DO THAT

10:29:40AM ENFORCEMENT, WHICH I THINK IS A PRIVATE GROUP, THAT WE

10:29:44AM DELEGATE THAT TO WE -- I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO BRAD AS




10:29:49AM WELL, BUT WE JUST GIVE A TICKET RIGHT AWAY.

10:29:55AM AND IF THAT'S TRUE, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR BECAUSE A

10:30:00AM LOT OF PEOPLE -- I COULD PROBABLY ASK THE 50 PEOPLE SITTING

10:30:05AM OUT THERE WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO ORDER --

10:30:07AM OH, THERE'S BRAD -- AND HOW MANY -- THE DETAILS OF WATER

10:30:12AM RESTRICTIONS.

10:30:13AM WHEN WE'RE NOT IN A SEVERE DROUGHT, THOSE ISSUES KIND OF GO

10:30:16AM AWAY A LITTLE BIT.

10:30:17AM BUT ANYWAY, I LOVE BRAD, BUT I WANT TO THROW IT OUT TO BOTH

10:30:23AM OF YOU TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE COME BACK IN TWO, THREE

10:30:28AM MONTHS AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT AS A STAFF REPORT.

10:30:32AM YOU HAVE A DATE FOR ME, MARTY? FEBRUARY OR SOMETHING?

10:30:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOTION NOW FOR THAT?

10:30:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S DECEMBER, WHY NOT.

10:30:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HO HO.

10:30:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MUCH TIME?

10:30:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FEBRUARY.

10:30:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FEBRUARY 20th?

10:30:48AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

10:30:49AM JUST BRIEFLY, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE, THE POSSIBILITY

10:30:53AM OF WARNINGS INSTEAD OF LIKE BOOM.

10:30:55AM BECAUSE IT'S 100 AND SOMETHING DOLLAR TICKET FOR THE

10:30:58AM FIRST-TIME OFFENDER.

10:30:59AM AND EVEN POLICE, YOU KNOW, POLICE GIVE YOU A LITTLE WARNING

10:31:04AM SOMETIMES.




10:31:06AM ANYWAY.

10:31:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.

10:31:08AM IF YOU COULD PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION FOR THE CLERK

10:31:10AM AND PUT IT ON THE FLOOR FOR A SECOND AND VOTE.

10:31:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE A MOTION FOR THE WATER

10:31:14AM DEPARTMENT TO LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING A WARNING

10:31:19AM TO OUR ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM ON WATER RESTRICTIONS.

10:31:25AM >> [INAUDIBLE]

10:31:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT, THANK YOU.

10:31:27AM ANYWAY, I BROUGHT IT UP DURING THIS ITEM, BECAUSE THIS IS A

10:31:32AM CHANGE TO OUR CODE AND OUR WATER CODE, AND THAT JUST MADE ME

10:31:36AM THINK OF IT.

10:31:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:31:39AM SECOND WAS IT CARLSON?

10:31:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:31:41AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:31:46AM >>JAN McLEAN: NOW NEED A MOTION ON THE ITEM.

10:31:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ ITEM NUMBER 5?

10:31:51AM [ENCODER AUDIO DROP]

10:31:58AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]

10:32:09AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- AND WASTEWATER.

10:32:11AM AMENDING SECTION 26-74, APPLICATION FOR WATER COMMITMENT,

10:32:15AM CONNECTION, OR SERVICE, EXECUTION OF SERVICE COMMITMENT,

10:32:18AM CONSIDERED CONTRACT BETWEEN CUSTOMER AND CITY; AMENDING

10:32:22AM SECTION 26-76, SEPARATE CONNECTION REQUIRED; AMENDING




10:32:26AM SECTION 26-94, PRIVATE FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS GENERALLY;

10:32:32AM AMENDING SECTION 26-96, REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE HYDRANTS;

10:32:37AM CREATING SECTION 26-100, WATER FACILITY OWNERSHIP; AMENDING

10:32:43AM SECTION 26-100 THROUGH AND INCLUDING 26-115, RESERVED;

10:32:49AM AMENDING SECTION 26-124, EXTENSIONS OR IMPROVEMENTS PROVIDED

10:32:53AM BY APPLICANT; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

10:32:57AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR

10:33:00AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:33:04AM AND I'M DONE READING FOR TODAY.

10:33:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, GOD BLESS YOU.

10:33:08AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:33:10AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:33:12AM ANY IN FAVOR?

10:33:14AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:33:14AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON

10:33:17AM JANUARY 9th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:33:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER 6, COUNCILMAN GUDES, CAN YOU READ

10:33:23AM ITEM 6, SIR?

10:33:25AM UNLESS ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS.

10:33:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

10:33:30AM -- PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

10:33:36AM AMENDING ORDINANCE 2019-140 ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF

10:33:40AM THE CITY OF TAMPA ON OCTOBER 17, 2019 TO CORRECT A

10:33:43AM SCRIVENER'S ERROR; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN

10:33:47AM EFFECTIVE DATE.




10:33:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:33:50AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:33:52AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

10:33:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:33:58AM NOW WE'LL GO TO PULLED ITEMS AND STAFF REPORTS.

10:34:00AM I WAS TO RUN THROUGH JUST THE COMMITTEES AND, OF COURSE,

10:34:06AM SUBMIT THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED WHICH I'LL GO

10:34:08AM THROUGH.

10:34:08AM COUNCILMAN CITRO, PUBLIC SAFETY.

10:34:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

10:34:11AM I MOVE ITEMS NUMBERS 7 AND 8.

10:34:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECONDED BY

10:34:16AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:34:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:34:18AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:34:18AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, ITEM NUMBER 9.

10:34:20AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:34:31AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN --

10:34:32AM [ENCODER DROP]

10:34:35AM [ENCODER DROP]

10:34:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE ITEMS 10-18 OMITTING ITEM 12.

10:34:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:34:44AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:34:46AM 16.

10:34:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]




10:34:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:34:52AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:34:55AM ANY IN FAVOR?

10:34:56AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:34:56AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --

10:34:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 19-22.

10:35:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:35:02AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:35:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:35:04AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:35:05AM NEXT, WE HAVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU COULD OMIT ITEMS

10:35:09AM 24, 25, 26, 27, 30, 32.

10:35:13AM GOOD LUCK.

10:35:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

10:35:15AM LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 23 THROUGH 35 MINUS NUMBER --

10:35:20AM EXCLUDING ITEMS NUMBER 24, 25, 26, 27, 30, AND 32.

10:35:27AM >> SECOND.

10:35:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:35:30AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:35:32AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:35:33AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:35:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SUBSTITUTES ARE THE ONES BEING HELD.

10:35:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:35:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I MOVE THIS, ON NUMBER 36, IT'S

10:35:47AM ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.




10:35:48AM THIS IS JUST A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.

10:35:50AM THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO DO REGARDING THIS VITRIFIED BRICK

10:35:54AM STREET TO BE REMOVED.

10:35:55AM NUMBER 37 -- I MEAN, IT IS A CORRECTION.

10:36:01AM I MOVE ITEMS 36 THROUGH 39.

10:36:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:36:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.

10:36:07AM I WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF ALL THESE.

10:36:09AM I HAD A LITTLE CHAT WITH JEAN DUNCAN YESTERDAY.

10:36:12AM THIS SPEAKS TO SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON WESTSHORE, ITEM 38.

10:36:17AM AND THE SPECIFIC AREA IS KIND OF NORTH OF KENNEDY IN THE

10:36:24AM WESTSHORE DISTRICT.

10:36:26AM WHAT I ASKED MS. DUNCAN, I SAID WE HAVE SOME HUGE, LONG-TERM

10:36:31AM PROBLEMS ON WESTSHORE FROM KENNEDY TO GANDY, AND THEN EVEN

10:36:37AM NOW SOUTH OF GANDY.

10:36:38AM WE HAD A ZONING I WON'T GO INTO, THE ISSUE CAME UP, ALL THE

10:36:43AM CONSTRUCTION SOUTH OF GANDY, I ASKED MS. DUNCAN, I SAID WHAT

10:36:46AM ARE WE DOING TO HIM PROVE WESTSHORE OTHER THAN THE

10:36:49AM WESTSHORE, SLASH, GANDY INTERSECTION, WHICH IS BEING

10:36:52AM IMPROVED?

10:36:53AM BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE GOT A LONG STRETCH OF WESTSHORE

10:36:56AM THAT I THINK HAS BASICALLY BEEN IGNORED FOR A LONG TIME.

10:37:01AM YOU WILL HEAR MORE ON THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

10:37:03AM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT.

10:37:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.




10:37:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:37:08AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:37:08AM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

10:37:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: DINGFELDER.

10:37:14AM NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PULLED ITEMS.

10:37:16AM WE'LL GO THROUGH 12 AND THEN 24, 25, 26, 27, 32.

10:37:20AM THEN WE MOVE TO 48.

10:37:22AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

10:37:26AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:37:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST HAD TWO QUICK QUESTIONS I WANTED TO

10:37:29AM GET ON THE RECORD.

10:37:30AM I TALKED TO MR. BAIRD EARLIER.

10:37:32AM THANK YOU FOR COMING.

10:37:32AM NUMBER ONE IS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN LOOKING AT THIS

10:37:38AM THAT IT'S NOT PART OF THE TOILET TO TAP PROJECT.

10:37:40AM YOU SAID EARLIER THAT IT'S PART OF ANOTHER PROJECT.

10:37:43AM COULD YOU JUST SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD?

10:37:44AM >>BRAD BAIRD: CORRECT.

10:37:45AM BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.

10:37:47AM THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO A CROLO AGREEMENT WITH THE MASTER

10:37:55AM PLAN THAT WE HAD PERFORMED EARLIER FOR PIPES.

10:37:58AM THIS WOULD ADD TASK THREE, WHICH IS AN ENGINEERING REPORT

10:38:04AM ASSOCIATED WITH THE BOND -- FUTURE BOND ISSUE.

10:38:06AM IT IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE TAMPA AUGMENTATION PROJECT.

10:38:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.




10:38:11AM SECOND QUESTION REAL FAST.

10:38:13AM IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, ITEM NUMBER 1 UNDER ASSUMPTIONS AND

10:38:17AM CITY RESPONSIBILITIES, IT SAYS THE ENGINEER ASSUMES THAT THE

10:38:19AM DATA AND INFORMATION SUPPLIED BY THE CITY WITHOUT THE

10:38:23AM INDEPENDENT REVIEW OR EVALUATION IS ACCURATE.

10:38:26AM IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE WHO DOES AN AUDIT?

10:38:30AM THIS IS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ABOUT DEMAND PERFORMANCE AND

10:38:33AM WATER SUPPLY.

10:38:33AM IS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO DOES AN OUTSIDE AUDIT OF THAT TO

10:38:38AM VERIFY THE CITY NUMBERS?

10:38:39AM THEY ARE SAYING THEY'LL REPORT BACK YOUR NUMBERS, RIGHT?

10:38:42AM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE HAVE AUDITS PERFORMED ON A REGULAR BASIS

10:38:46AM WITH THE REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT BOTH EXTERNALLY AND

10:38:49AM INTERNALLY.

10:38:50AM HOWEVER, THAT LANGUAGE YOU JUST READ IS STANDARD LANGUAGE

10:38:53AM FOR AN ENGINEERING REPORT, THAT THEY WOULD RELY ON THE

10:38:57AM INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDE TO THEM.

10:38:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: I ASSUME IN THE REPORT WHEN THEY COME BACK

10:39:02AM THEY'LL PUT THAT DISCLOSURE IN THERE AGAIN, RIGHT?

10:39:05AM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.

10:39:06AM IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT BOND ISSUE.

10:39:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL RIGHT.

10:39:09AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:39:10AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.

10:39:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?




10:39:12AM LIKE TO -- WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A

10:39:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:39:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:39:18AM ALL RIGHT.

10:39:18AM THE NEXT ITEM UP I BELIEVE IS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ITEM

10:39:21AM NUMBER 24, CORRECT?

10:39:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT WAS ALL OF THOSE 24 THROUGH

10:39:28AM 27, 30, AND 32, WHICH ALL RELATE TO WHAT I THOUGHT LOOKED

10:39:33AM LIKE SOME REALLY GOOD AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES THAT

10:39:38AM THE CITY HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN.

10:39:40AM SO I ASKED STAFF IF THEY WOULD COME GIVE US A LITTLE MORE

10:39:43AM INFORMATION AND HERE THEY ARE, ON THOSE WHAT I HOPE ARE VERY

10:39:50AM POSITIVE THINGS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MEET OUR AFFORDABLE

10:39:55AM HOUSING NEEDS.

10:40:10AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: VANESSA McCLEARY, HOUSING AND

10:40:14AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:40:17AM THE REQUEST TODAY WAS FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WEST

10:40:21AM RIVER PROJECT.

10:40:22AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, JUST FOR THOSE OF US WHO JUST

10:40:24AM RETURNED TO COUNCIL OR NEW TO COUNCIL, WE'RE NOT THAT

10:40:29AM FAMILIAR WITH THESE PROJECTS.

10:40:30AM I KNOW THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR PROBABLY MORE

10:40:32AM THAN A YEAR.

10:40:33AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: YES.

10:40:33AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT JUST TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE




10:40:36AM ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

10:40:38AM I THINK THERE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS THERE, THE CITY IS

10:40:41AM PARTICIPATING, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY IS IN THE HOUSE

10:40:44AM TODAY.

10:40:44AM I KNOW THEY ARE PART OF THIS AS WELL.

10:40:47AM ANYWAY, JUST A LITTLE UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

10:40:51AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: OKAY.

10:40:52AM SO I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, BUT LEROY MOORE IS HERE FROM

10:40:55AM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

10:40:57AM THIS IS THE WEST RIVER PROJECT, WHICH WAS PART OF THE

10:41:00AM ENVISION PLAN.

10:41:01AM SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

10:41:04AM THE CITY HAS PROVIDED NOW ABOUT $4 MILLION TO THE PROJECT,

10:41:09AM AND IT'S GETTING READY TO START COMING ONLINE.

10:41:11AM LEROY AND BRETT ARE HERE.

10:41:17AM THEY CAN TELL YOU THE STATUS.

10:41:18AM IF YOU ARE DRIVING ON 275, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE STARTING TO GO

10:41:21AM VERTICAL.

10:41:22AM >> THANK YOU, VANESSA.

10:41:23AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:41:25AM I HAVE BRETT GREEN WITH ME.

10:41:28AM I'M LEROY MOORE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.

10:41:32AM I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A VIEW OF THE OVERALL WEST RIVER

10:41:36AM SITE.

10:41:37AM THERE IT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN COLORS THERE, THE SUBJECT OF THE




10:41:41AM DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH

10:41:43AM RELATED AS WELL AS BANK OF AMERICA CDC.

10:41:46AM I'M GOING TO ASK BRETT TO WALK YOU THROUGH EACH OF THE FOUR

10:41:51AM DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE FUNDED PARTIALLY WITH SOME CITY

10:41:54AM DOLLARS

10:41:55AM ALONG WITH A MIX OF OTHER DOLLARS FROM THROUGHOUT THE STATE,

10:42:00AM AS FAR AWAY AS THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK, A VARIETY OF

10:42:07AM FUNDING WE HAVE AMASSED TO BE ABLE TO AS OF TODAY HAVE SIX

10:42:11AM BUILDINGS ALREADY FUNDED.

10:42:12AM WE'RE NORTH OF 900 UNITS FUNDED ALREADY ON THIS SITE.

10:42:16AM TWO BUILDINGS AS YOU CAN VISIBLY SEE ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

10:42:21AM THAT'S WHAT IS DENOTED AS T-1, RENAISSANCE AT WEST RIVER,

10:42:24AM WHICH IS THE IMAGE THAT WAS UP WHEN VANESSA WAS SPEAKING,

10:42:27AM AND ALSO T-2-A, THE MARY BETHUNE HIGH-RISE UNDER SUBSTANTIAL

10:42:36AM RENOVATION.

10:42:37AM FIRST PARTNERSHIP WITH RELATED.

10:42:39AM OTHER FOUR ARE DENOTED AS T-3 PROJECT.

10:42:43AM I'LL HAVE BRETT WALK YOU THROUGH EACH OF THE PROJECTS, SOME

10:42:46AM OF WHICH ARE SEEKING SUBORDINATION AGREEMENTS BECAUSE OF THE

10:42:56AM -- DEMONSTRATION FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FROM HUD HAS TO BE IN

10:43:02AM PRIORITY POSITION AND SOME OF WHICH ARE SEEKING FUNDING, AS

10:43:04AM LITTLE AS 75,000, AS HIGH AS A MILLION DOLLARS IN SUPPORTIVE

10:43:07AM FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:43:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MOORE, LOOKING AT THESE VARIOUS

10:43:12AM BUILDINGS, RED, ORANGE, PURPLE, ET CETERA, WHAT'S YOUR




10:43:16AM AFFORDABLE?

10:43:16AM WHAT'S YOUR ATTAINABLE?

10:43:18AM WHAT'S YOUR MARKET RATE?

10:43:20AM CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE MORE ON THAT BEFORE YOU PASS THE

10:43:23AM BATON?

10:43:24AM >>LEROY MOORE: T-1 BUILDING IS 160 UNIT NEW CONSTRUCTION

10:43:27AM PROJECT.

10:43:27AM THE RENAISSANCE AT WEST RIVER, 100% AFFORDABLE.

10:43:32AM THE T-2A PROJECT, BETHUNE HIGH-RISE, EIGHT-STORY, 150 UNIT,

10:43:38AM 100% AFFORDABLE BUILDING FOR SENIORS.

10:43:41AM THEN WE START WITH OUR MIXED INCOME SITES, ALL OF OUR FAMILY

10:43:46AM BUILDINGS ARE MIXED INCOME.

10:43:49AM MIXED INCOME, ALL AFFORDABLE MIXED INCOME, MEANING SOME OF

10:43:53AM THEM WILL BE PUBLIC HOUSING SECTION 8 AND TAX CREDIT

10:43:56AM HOUSING.

10:43:56AM BUT WE HAVE A MIX OF MIXED INCOMES DEVELOPMENTS HERE FROM

10:44:01AM THE A, B, C AND D BUILDING.

10:44:04AM SOME ARE 70% AFFORDABLE, 80% AFFORDABLE.

10:44:07AM BUILDINGS.

10:44:08AM AND BRETT WILL WALK YOU THROUGH EACH OF THOSE WITH WHAT THE

10:44:14AM AFFORDABILITY SET-ASIDES ARE AS WELL AS THE FUNDING.

10:44:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO GET INTO WITH

10:44:20AM MR. DINGFELDER.

10:44:21AM WHEN YOU SAY "AFFORDABLE," ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PRICE

10:44:25AM RANGES, LOW, MODERATE, HIGH?




10:44:26AM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

10:44:30AM A TENANT MOVING IN, WHERE DO I FIT IN?

10:44:32AM >> YES, LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

10:44:34AM AFFORDABLE FOR HOUSING AUTHORITY IS ANYTHING BELOW 80% OF

10:44:37AM AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

10:44:38AM THESE ARE ALL RENTAL BUILDINGS.

10:44:40AM THESE ARE NOT FOR-SALE CONDOS.

10:44:42AM THEY HAVE RENTS SET AFFORDABLE TO PERSONS THAT ARE EARNING

10:44:46AM BELOW 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

10:44:50AM 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA I THINK IS

10:44:52AM ABOUT 46, 47 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.

10:44:57AM PUBLIC HOUSING IS LIMITED TO PEOPLE EARNING BELOW 80% OF

10:45:01AM AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

10:45:03AM ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, HOWEVER, WHEN WE MENTION AFFORDABLE,

10:45:06AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BELOW 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

10:45:11AM IT'S AN EVEN DEEPER AFFORDABILITY THAN WHAT IT WAS WHEN THIS

10:45:14AM WAS NORTH BOULEVARD.

10:45:16AM WHEN THIS WAS NORTH BOULEVARD, YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE MAKING

10:45:20AM UP TO 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME ON THE WEST RIVER, THEY COULD

10:45:23AM MAKE IN AFFORDABLE UNITS NO MORE THAN 60% OF AREA MEDIAN

10:45:29AM INCOME.

10:45:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

10:45:33AM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISPLACED FROM THIS AREA BEFORE, IT WAS A

10:45:39AM THOUSAND OR 1200 FAMILIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

10:45:42AM HAVE WE BUILT SINCE THAT TIME A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, HAVE WE




10:45:46AM BUILT THAT NUMBER OF UNITS, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE WERE

10:45:50AM TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF 20 TO 50 THOUSAND

10:45:53AM HOMES.

10:45:53AM BUT JUST IN THIS PROJECT, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE DISPLACED, I

10:45:57AM KNOW THEY ALL MOVED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

10:45:59AM BUT HAVE WE BUILT THAT MANY UNITS SOMEWHERE ELSE SINCE THAT

10:46:02AM HAPPENED?

10:46:02AM >>LEROY MOORE: NOT SINCE THAT HAPPENED.

10:46:04AM RELOCATION HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE ACTUALLY

10:46:06AM RELOCATED 820 FAMILIES, TOTAL FAMILIES, NOT A THOUSAND

10:46:11AM FAMILIES.

10:46:11AM THERE'S 820 TOTAL UNITS AT NORTH BOULEVARD.

10:46:16AM ONLY 670 UNITS WERE ACTUALLY DEMOLISHED.

10:46:19AM SO OF THE 670 UNITS THAT WE'VE DEMOLISHED, WE HAVE FULLY

10:46:23AM FUNDED OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS OF TODAY, 932 UNITS OF

10:46:29AM HOUSING ON THIS SITE.

10:46:30AM THE FAMILIES THAT WERE RELOCATED TWO YEARS AGO, MOVED INTO

10:46:34AM EXISTING HOUSING ELSEWHERE.

10:46:35AM SOME OF THEM MOVED INTO OUR ENCORE DEVELOPMENT.

10:46:38AM SOME OF THEM MOVED INTO ONE OF ANY NUMBER OF OUR OTHER 30

10:46:42AM PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

10:46:44AM SOME OF THEM RECEIVED A SECTION 8 VOUCHER AND ACTUALLY

10:46:47AM RELOCATED TO THE PRIVATE MARKET WITH A VOUCHER.

10:46:51AM UNDER THE SECTION 8 OR PUBLIC HOUSING PROGRAM, 100% OF THOSE

10:46:55AM FAMILIES WHEN THEY RELOCATE ALL, UNLESS THEIR INCOME




10:46:57AM CHANGED, THEIR RENT IS THE SAME AS IT WAS WHEN THEY WERE

10:47:02AM LIVING ON NORTH BOULEVARD EVEN THOUGH NOW THEY MAY BE LIVING

10:47:07AM AT ENCORE AS AN EXAMPLE.

10:47:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:47:14AM >> BRETT GREEN WITH THE RELATED GROUP.

10:47:16AM OBVIOUSLY, LEE ROY DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING QUITE A BIT

10:47:19AM OF IT.

10:47:20AM WE HAVE GREAT MOMENTUM GOING ON AT THE SITE RIGHT NOW.

10:47:23AM AS THEY MENTIONED, WE HAVE OVER 900 UNITS UNDER CONSTRUCTION

10:47:26AM OR IN PLANNING.

10:47:28AM WHAT YOU SEE HERE, A, B AND C OF THE T-3 BLOCK WE'LL START

10:47:34AM CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS OR SO.

10:47:37AM THE T-3 BLOCK, WE DESIGNED IT SO THAT THE PARKING WOULD BE

10:47:41AM IN THE MIDDLE.

10:47:42AM WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO KEEP ALL THE FABRIC OF THE

10:47:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THE TREES.

10:47:46AM WE CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK TO ALLOW

10:47:50AM US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WITH IT.

10:47:51AM CAME LAST WEEK WITH THE REPLAT.

10:47:53AM WE APPRECIATE THE ONGOING SUPPORT.

10:47:57AM FOR WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING TODAY, BUILDINGS A AND B,

10:48:03AM COMMITTING A MILLION DOLLARS OF CITY FUNDING TO BUILDING A.

10:48:06AM WE BROUGHT OVER $20 MILLION OF OTHER PUBLIC FUNDING.

10:48:09AM YOUR COMMITMENT OF A MILLION GAVE US A SPECIAL PRIORITY IN

10:48:12AM THE STATE'S COMPETITIVE FUNDING, SO YOUR MILLION WENT A LONG




10:48:16AM WAY TO ALLOWING THESE PROJECTS TO GO FORWARD.

10:48:18AM AND THEN BUILDING A IS 119 UNITS.

10:48:21AM BUILDING B IS 133 UNITS.

10:48:25AM AS LEROY MENTIONED, ALSO MIXED INCOME.

10:48:27AM SO PRIMARILY AFFORDABLE FOR RESIDENTS BELOW 60% OF THE AREA

10:48:32AM MEDIAN INCOME.

10:48:33AM BUT ALSO, WE HAVE A PIECE OF IT THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR

10:48:36AM WORKFORCE HOUSING.

10:48:37AM SO VARIOUS DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS.

10:48:40AM HOUSING FOR PEOPLE OF ALL INCOME HERE ON THE PROPERTY.

10:48:44AM THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PIECE TO US, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE

10:48:47AM FAMILIES COULD COINCIDE TOGETHER.

10:48:50AM AGAIN, BUILDING B IS 133 UNITS.

10:48:52AM YOU'RE COMMITTING 750,000.

10:48:54AM AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO THE PROJECT THAT

10:48:57AM ALLOWED US TO GET OVER 23 MILLION OF PUBLIC FUNDING FOR THIS

10:49:03AM PROJECT AS WELL.

10:49:04AM THE CITY'S MONEY IS BEING HIGHLY LEVERAGED AND WE'RE GOING

10:49:07AM TO SPEND IT WISELY.

10:49:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BRETT, I KNOW YOUR COMPANY, THE RELATED

10:49:19AM COMPANY, YOU GUYS ARE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, YOU'RE

10:49:23AM DOING MARKET-RATE APARTMENTS RIGHT OVER HERE ACROSS THE

10:49:25AM RIVER.

10:49:26AM I THINK YOU JUST OPENED THOSE RECENTLY.

10:49:28AM I THINK YOU GOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AROUND TOWN, AND I




10:49:32AM THINK IT'S GREAT, IN ADDITION TO THIS PROJECT.

10:49:35AM WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT, AND THIS WAS A COUPLE I THINK --

10:49:38AM WELL, ON A AND B, I THINK ADDS UP TO 250 UNITS OR SOMETHING

10:49:43AM LIKE THAT.

10:49:43AM IT'S FANTASTIC.

10:49:44AM STILL WE HAVE A HUGE NEED.

10:49:46AM THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DIG OUT OF THIS IS WITH PUBLIC/PRIVATE

10:49:52AM PARTNERSHIP.

10:49:52AM THAT'S WHAT THIS REPRESENTS IN ITS BEST FORM.

10:49:55AM MY QUESTION IS, WHAT -- IN TWO MINUTES OR LESS, WHAT CAN WE

10:50:02AM DO AS A CITY TO HELP INSPIRE THE PRIVATE SECTOR, INCLUDING

10:50:05AM YOUR COMPANY AND OTHERS, TO DO MORE, TO DO MORE OUT THERE

10:50:10AM AND IN THE CITY TO ADDRESS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS?

10:50:14AM >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

10:50:15AM ACTUALLY, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

10:50:17AM I KNOW WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES ABOUT THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

10:50:23AM THERE ARE CERTAIN INCENTIVES THAT CAN BE PUT TOGETHER.

10:50:26AM I KNOW THE MAYOR PUT TOGETHER A COUNCIL ON CREATING IDEAS,

10:50:29AM BEST PRACTICES AND SO FORTH.

10:50:31AM THERE'S SOME RELAXATIONS IN ZONING, PARKING REDUCTIONS, YOU

10:50:35AM KNOW, STREAMLINE PERMITTING PROCESS, IMPACT FEE WAIVERS.

10:50:41AM THESE GO DIRECTLY TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF CREATING AFFORDABLE

10:50:43AM HOUSING.

10:50:46AM AT THE PRESENT TIME, THE CITY OF TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE TOO MANY

10:50:49AM OF THOSE.




10:50:50AM WE DO A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.

10:50:53AM I WILL SAY, YOUR PERMITTING PROCESS HERE IS AMAZING COMPARED

10:50:57AM TO WHAT WE DO DOWN THERE.

10:50:58AM BUT THEY DO HAVE QUITE A FEW INCENTIVES THAT INCREASE THE

10:51:04AM DENSITY.

10:51:04AM IF YOU CAN NORMALLY BUILD 20 UNITS AN ACRE, IF YOU'RE

10:51:08AM BUILDING AFFORDABLE, YOU CAN NOW BUILD 30 UNITS AN ACRE.

10:51:11AM THAT OBVIOUSLY REDUCES THE PRICE OF THE LAND AND THE COST OF

10:51:14AM PARKING IN URBAN AREAS IS SUPER EXPENSIVE, 20, 30 THOUSAND

10:51:19AM DOLLARS PER PARKING SPACE.

10:51:21AM IF YOU REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING REQUIRED IN CERTAIN

10:51:23AM URBAN AREAS, WHERE YOU MAY NOT NEED IT YOU COULD HAVE OTHER

10:51:27AM FORMS OF TRANSIT.

10:51:28AM THOSE GO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

10:51:30AM SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT AS WELL.

10:51:32AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN RETURN, I GUESS THE COMMITMENT FROM

10:51:35AM THE PROPERTY OWNER, ASSUMING IT'S A RENTAL SITUATION REMAINS

10:51:40AM IN PLACE PROBABLY IN PERPETUITY IN TERMS OF THOSE UNITS

10:51:45AM REMAINING AFFORDABLE.

10:51:47AM >> MORE OR LESS.

10:51:48AM YEAH, WHEN WE APPLY FOR FUNDING FROM THE STATE, THEY MAKE

10:51:50AM YOU COMMIT TO KEEPING IT AFFORDABLE FOR 50 YEARS AT LEAST.

10:51:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR HOW LONG?

10:51:54AM >> 50 YEARS.

10:51:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 50, 5-0.




10:51:59AM >> YES.

10:51:59AM THERE'S BEEN SOME ADVOCATES THROUGHOUT THE STATE TRYING TO

10:52:01AM GET THOSE LEVELS REDUCED.

10:52:03AM WE CERTAINLY, AND TAMPA HOUSING AND LEROY ARE NOT FOR THAT.

10:52:08AM WHEN WE DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE NEVER TAKE THEM OUT

10:52:12AM OF THE PROGRAM.

10:52:12AM MR. PEREZ, THE CHAIRMAN OF OUR COMPANY, HAS DEVELOPMENTS

10:52:14AM THAT HE BUILT WHEN HE FIRST STARTED IN DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS

10:52:17AM BACK IN THE '70s THAT REMAIN AFFORDABLE TODAY.

10:52:20AM IT'S A BIG PART OF OUR BUSINESS, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW

10:52:23AM THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS PART OF RELATED'S BUSINESS.

10:52:26AM BUT WE HAVE A BIG GROUP AND WE'RE FOCUSED ON THESE TYPE OF

10:52:30AM REDEVELOPMENTS.

10:52:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:52:38AM THIS IS LOOKING LIKE A WONDERFUL, BRIGHT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE

10:52:41AM CITY OF TAMPA, ESPECIALLY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

10:52:44AM PART AND PARCEL COMES EMPLOYMENT AND TRANSPORTATION.

10:52:48AM IS THERE ANY -- ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR EMPLOYMENT WITHIN

10:52:52AM THIS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE SQUARE BLOCK AREA?

10:52:56AM AND WHERE IS THE TRANSPORTATION HUB?

10:52:59AM IF NOT, WHERE IS THE TRANSPORTATION HUB GOING TO BE TO GET

10:53:02AM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING HERE THAT NEED EMPLOYMENT?

10:53:08AM >> I MEAN, CERTAINLY, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL

10:53:11AM AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION JOB OPPORTUNITIES HERE, AND WE'VE

10:53:14AM MADE A COMMITMENT TO SET ASIDE A PORTION OF THOSE JOBS FOR




10:53:17AM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THROUGH THE SECTION 3 PROGRAM.

10:53:21AM WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR, SUFFOLK CONSTRUCTION,

10:53:27AM THEY HAVE BUILT IN THE COMMUNITY QUITE SOME TIME.

10:53:30AM WE ARE MEETING THE GOALS.

10:53:32AM THERE WILL BE LONG-TERM OPPORTUNITIES.

10:53:33AM THERE WILL BE RETAIL IN EACH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.

10:53:36AM ALL ALONG MAIN STREET THERE WILL BE RETAIL.

10:53:40AM WE HAVE SEVERAL PADS.

10:53:42AM THE PURPLE AREA HERE, THE CGS AND R-1 POTENTIALLY ON THE

10:53:48AM OPPOSITE CORNER, ON THE CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND NORTH

10:53:50AM BOULEVARD WHERE THERE WILL BE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES.

10:53:54AM I WILL TELL YOU OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN A VERY

10:53:57AM LARGE PICKUP IN INTEREST IN THE AREA.

10:54:00AM SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING HERE.

10:54:03AM THERE ARE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

10:54:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING PART OF MY QUESTION.

10:54:10AM >> AND OFFICE BUILDING.

10:54:11AM I APOLOGIZE.

10:54:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GLAD TO HEAR PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO GET IN

10:54:15AM THEIR CAR TO TRAVEL TO GET GROCERIES OR NECESSITIES.

10:54:18AM WHAT ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION HUB?

10:54:20AM >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BUS ROUTES.

10:54:22AM I KNOW THEY NO LONGER PICK UP ON MAIN STREET.

10:54:25AM BUT I BELIEVE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK WHEN ALL

10:54:28AM THE NEIGHBORS COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.




10:54:32AM >> THAT'S CERTAINLY OUTSIDE OF OUR IMMEDIATE CONTROL, BUT

10:54:34AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WHAT IS HART OR D.O.T.

10:54:38AM CERTAINLY EVERY EFFORT THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY COMES

10:54:41AM TOGETHER TO LOOK AT MORE MODERN TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, WE

10:54:45AM TRY TO BE AT THE TABLE TO SUPPORT.

10:54:47AM WE'RE BUILDING THE DENSITIES THAT WILL SUPPORT MORE MODERN

10:54:51AM MASS TRANSIT LINKAGES SO WHEN WE EVENTUALLY DO GET TO THAT

10:54:56AM POINT, YOU HAVE A MUCH BIGGER POPULATION HERE THAT CAN TAKE

10:54:59AM ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

10:55:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

10:55:02AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:55:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SINCE MY NAME WAS MENTIONED, I BELIEVE THAT

10:55:11AM WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE

10:55:14AM ADDRESSING IT THE WAY WE SHOULD ADDRESS IT.

10:55:16AM WE HAVE ASSETS IN THE CITY, BUT WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE

10:55:21AM ASSETS THAT WE HAVE.

10:55:23AM WE HAVE AS A KEY ASSET TO MAKING COMMUNITIES BETTER.

10:55:26AM I LIKE THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I WANT TO MAKE

10:55:29AM SURE THAT THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE DOING, THAT PEOPLE ARE

10:55:33AM HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET

10:55:35AM IN TO THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

10:55:37AM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HELPING AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP

10:55:43AM DEVELOPERS, I'M ALL ABOUT INCENTIVES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT,

10:55:46AM BUT I HAVE TO GET A GUARANTEE ON MY INVESTMENT AS WELL.

10:55:49AM THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT THOSE COMMUNITY BUSINESS -- THEY ARE




10:55:53AM VERY KEY.

10:55:54AM IF I'M GIVING YOU SOMETHING.

10:55:56AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'LL BE GIVING BACK TO THAT COMMUNITY

10:55:59AM AS WELL.

10:55:59AM THAT IS A KEY FOCAL POINT.

10:56:02AM HAPPY TO GIVE, BUT I WANT GUARANTEED WHEN WE GIVE THAT WE'RE

10:56:06AM GETTING AN INVESTMENT BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN

10:56:09AM THERE, WHO WE UPROOT OR TALK ABOUT BRINGING BACK OR

10:56:11AM UPROOTING THEIR COMMUNITY AS THEY ONCE KNEW.

10:56:14AM I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF REDEVELOPMENT, BUT WHEN REDEVELOPMENT,

10:56:19AM AND I'M HOPING THAT THE STAFF IS UNDERSTANDING WHEN I KEEP

10:56:22AM TALKING ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY BUSINESS, IT IS A VERY KEY

10:56:26AM COMPONENT TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN MY OFFICE ABOUT GIVING.

10:56:29AM I LIKE TO GIVE BUT I ALSO WANT SOMETHING BACK IN RETURN AND

10:56:34AM I WANT TO MAKING SURE THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO WEST RIVER.

10:56:37AM PEOPLE SAY WHAT WE WILL DO OR WHAT WE CAN'T DO, WE CAN DO

10:56:40AM WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

10:56:44AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN LIVE OVER THERE ON THE WEST

10:56:46AM RIVER BECAUSE IT IS THE WATERFRONT PROPERTY.

10:56:49AM MIXED INCOME AND GREAT JOB AT ENCORE.

10:56:52AM PEOPLE ARE HAPPY OVER THERE.

10:56:55AM THAT'S TRUE TO ITS FORM.

10:56:57AM I'M HOPING THE PROJECT ON WEST RIVER WILL BE TRUE TO WHAT

10:57:01AM ENCORE IS DOING.

10:57:03AM >> ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS BEING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE




10:57:05AM HOUSING AUTHORITY IS THEY HAVE SOME FEDERAL MANDATES THAT

10:57:07AM REQUIRE THAT ANYBODY THAT LIVED THERE HAS THE FIRST

10:57:11AM OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE BACK INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

10:57:14AM ALSO, LIKE LEROY WAS SAYING AND BRETT WAS SAYING, THE

10:57:18AM SECTION 3 REQUIREMENT REQUIRES THAT THEY PROVIDE JOB

10:57:22AM OPPORTUNITIES TO TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY RESIDENTS.

10:57:24AM YOU'VE GOT JOB COMMITMENTS BEING MET AND THEY ARE REQUIRED

10:57:30AM TO MEET THEM NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT REQUIRED TO MEET THEM

10:57:34AM FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS HAVING THE PEOPLE MOVE

10:57:35AM BACK IN, LIKE THEY TOLD YOU, SEVERAL OF THE BUILDINGS ARE

10:57:38AM STRICTLY LOW INCOME.

10:57:40AM SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO LIVE IN THAT AREA AND

10:57:46AM ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF LIVING ALONG THE RIVER ARE GUARANTEED

10:57:48AM BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

10:57:49AM BUT IT IS A PART OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.

10:57:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THERE A LIST?

10:57:55AM [ENCODER DROP]

10:58:08AM >> -- THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THE LIST.

10:58:10AM THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH ALL OF THOSE.

10:58:13AM THEY TRACK THEM IN BETWEEN WHEN THE PROJECT IS TAKEN

10:58:15AM OFF-LINE AND WHEN IT COMES BACK ONLINE.

10:58:17AM >> THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR ALL OF OUR REDEVELOPMENTS.

10:58:20AM IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

10:58:20AM WHEN THE FIRST BUILDING GOES INTO LEASE UP, THE RESIDENTS

10:58:23AM WHO QUALIFY, THESE ARE INCOME RESTRICTED, THE FIRST TWO




10:58:26AM BUILDINGS.

10:58:26AM THOSE 62 AND OLDER AUTOMATICALLY GET CALLS BY A CASE

10:58:31AM MANAGER.

10:58:31AM THEY GET BUGGED BY THE CASE MANAGER FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

10:58:34AM ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO COME BACK.

10:58:36AM THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY.

10:58:37AM THEY ACTUALLY BRING THEM THERE FOR TOURS.

10:58:41AM ONE THING WE ALWAYS POINT OUT, THOUGH, OUR RELOCATION

10:58:46AM PROCESS IS A VERY UNIQUE RELOCATION PROCESS WHEN YOU LOOK AT

10:58:49AM NATIONWIDE EXAMPLES OF MULTIFAMILY REDEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS

10:58:54AM SITE.

10:58:54AM WE DO A LOT OF TRAINING AND ORIENTATION AND OPPORTUNITIES

10:58:58AM THAT ARE GIVEN THROUGH THE RELOCATION PROCESS.

10:59:01AM OUR RESIDENTS CHOOSE BASE ON PURPOSE.

10:59:06AM PURPOSEFUL CHOICE WHEN THEY RELOCATE OFF-SITE, BECAUSE THEY

10:59:09AM MAY WANT TO STAY THERE WHERE THEY MOVE TO.

10:59:13AM OUR RETURN RATE IS ABOUT 15% OR LESS ON THESE MASSIVE

10:59:16AM REDEVELOPMENTS.

10:59:17AM AS BEAUTIFUL AS ENCORE IS LESS THAN 15% CHOOSE TO COME BACK

10:59:21AM TO ENCORE.

10:59:22AM WHY?

10:59:23AM BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE GREAT DUE DILIGENCE ON THE FRONT END IN

10:59:26AM TERMS OF CHOOSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PURPOSE.

10:59:28AM CLOSER TO FAMILIES, CLOSER TO JOBS, CLOSER TO SCHOOLS,

10:59:31AM CLOSER TO CHURCH.




10:59:32AM WHATEVER THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS ARE, THEY ARE GIVEN THAT

10:59:36AM OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY RELOCATE OFF-SITE, SO MOVING BACK IS

10:59:39AM NOT ESSENTIAL TO THEM.

10:59:41AM IT IS AN OPTION FOR THEM.

10:59:43AM THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT UNTIL THE LAST BUILDING IS PLACED

10:59:45AM INTO SERVICE ON THIS SITE.

10:59:47AM EVERYBODY WHO WAS RELOCATED HAS FIRST GUARANTEED RIGHT TO

10:59:50AM COME BACK TO THE SITE.

10:59:51AM IF THEY CHOOSE TO COME BACK, WE PAY THE RELOCATION COSTS

10:59:55AM BACK TO THE SITE.

10:59:56AM IT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR 20 YEARS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

11:00:01AM IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

11:00:03AM THE PROCESS AT WEST RIVER HAS BENEFITED FROM 20 YEARS OF

11:00:09AM PERFECTING THAT PROCESS AND GETTING IT RIGHT AND IMPROVING

11:00:13AM ON WHAT WAS RIGHT LAST YEAR.

11:00:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST HOW YOU'RE TELLING THE STORY RIGHT

11:00:22AM NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE STORY.

11:00:25AM THAT'S PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF TIMES WITH GOVERNMENT, THERE

11:00:29AM ARE AMENITIES AVAILABLE, BUT WE DON'T TELL THE STORY SO

11:00:33AM PEOPLE CAN GET AT TO GET THE NECESSARY PRODUCT.

11:00:35AM I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.

11:00:41AM I THINK THAT'S THE KEY, MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE

11:00:42AM PRODUCT.

11:00:43AM WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPERS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO HELP THE

11:00:46AM DEVELOPERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF DILAPIDATED




11:00:49AM BUILDINGS WE HAVE, THAT WE CAN BE FIXING THOSE UP FOR

11:00:51AM HOUSING AS WELL.

11:00:52AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO, BUT WHAT I SAY AND TELL

11:00:55AM MY COLLEAGUES, A LOT OF TIMES, WHEN I'M GETTING MY OFFICE

11:00:58AM RIGHT NOW, REGARDING TO OUR OWN REHAB PROGRAM, I'M GETTING

11:01:01AM SO MANY DENIAL LETTERS FROM PEOPLE, MET A LADY YESTERDAY WHO

11:01:04AM IS 70 YEARS OLD WHO WAS DENIED BECAUSE SHE EXCEEDED THE

11:01:09AM HOUSE OR ANOTHER LADY, ANOTHER -- I WON'T MENTION, I HAVE A

11:01:13AM LIST IN MY OFFICE RIGHT NOW BUT OUR OWN HOUSING PROGRAM THAT

11:01:17AM I'LL BE BRINGING UP TO ADDRESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIND

11:01:20AM DOLLARS NOT MATCHED WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS, IF THAT'S THE

11:01:22AM CASE, PRECLUDING PEOPLE FROM GETTING HOUSING.

11:01:25AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROADBLOCKS AS WELL BECAUSE THERE ARE

11:01:29AM ROADBLOCKS NOT HELPING US HELP PEOPLE.

11:01:34AM THERE ARE ASSETS.

11:01:35AM BUT WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY WITH

11:01:38AM MONEY TO GET THEM MOVING.

11:01:39AM I THINK THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE PROCESS AND BIG ROADBLOCK

11:01:41AM THAT WE'RE FACING.

11:01:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

11:01:43AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:01:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M ONE OF THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

11:01:49AM IF YOU COULD JUST LET ME KNOW, LET THE PUBLIC KNOW, IN

11:01:53AM ADDITION TO THESE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE HERE, BY THE TIME

11:01:59AM YOU'RE FINISHED WITH ALL OF THIS, WHAT WILL BE THE CITY'S




11:02:01AM PARTICIPATION, NOT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, BUT HOW MUCH WILL

11:02:02AM THE CITY HAVE PUT INTO ALL OF THIS?

11:02:04AM JUST CURIOUS, NOT --

11:02:10AM >> HOW MUCH WILL THE CITY PUT INTO THIS?

11:02:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, HOW MUCH PARTICIPATION WILL THE CITY

11:02:15AM HAVE IN THIS FINANCIALLY?

11:02:16AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: IT'S CLOSE TO 4 MILLION.

11:02:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ABOUT -- BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE, THE

11:02:22AM SPACES THAT ARE EMPTY, LIKE THE ONE ALONG 275, THE SOUTHEAST

11:02:26AM CORNER AND THEN THE T-6 AND CNA.

11:02:28AM IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE 4 MILLION ESTIMATE?

11:02:31AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: NO.

11:02:32AM THE 4 MILLION IS IN THIS AREA.

11:02:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: WILL THE CITY BE PARTICIPATING IN ANY OF THE

11:02:38AM REST OF IT?

11:02:40AM >> SO, YES, SO SOME OF THE STATE FUNDING APPLICATIONS

11:02:45AM REQUIRE SOME LEVEL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTION.

11:02:49AM WE JUST RECEIVED LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTION FOR AN

11:02:51AM APPLICATION THAT WE ARE SUBMITTING FOR FUNDING HERE IN THE

11:02:55AM NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR THE T-4 BLOCK, AND THAT WOULD BE TO

11:03:00AM BUILD 107 UNITS.

11:03:02AM AND THE CITY WILL POTENTIALLY BE CONTRIBUTING $75,000 TO

11:03:06AM THAT.

11:03:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THAT MARKET RATE?

11:03:09AM >> THAT WILL BE ALL AFFORDABLE.




11:03:10AM WE ALSO HAVE SOME FUNDING APPLICATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN

11:03:13AM ON THE T-4 BLOCK TO BUILD A HUNDRED MORE OR LESS UNITS WITH

11:03:18AM LITTLE TO NO CITY PARTICIPATION.

11:03:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ABOUT THE BLANK BLOCKS?

11:03:26AM HOW MUCH DO YOU EXPECT THE CITY WILL PUT IN FOR THOSE?

11:03:26AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: THAT IS HARD TO SAY BECAUSE THEY WOULD

11:03:28AM HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, AND SO IT IS A COMPETITIVE

11:03:31AM PROCESS.

11:03:31AM IN THE LAST PROCESS, WE HAD A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, RELATED

11:03:35AM RECEIVED 75,000 RATHER THAN THE 750,000 THAT THEY REQUESTED,

11:03:39AM BECAUSE THE OTHER DEVELOPER WAS GOING TO BE BUILDING IN EAST

11:03:43AM TAMPA HAD THE WINNING PROPOSAL.

11:03:55AM >> THAT'S A FIRST.

11:04:07AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST BRIEFLY.

11:04:09AM I'M VERY POSITIVE ABOUT ALL THIS.

11:04:10AM I'M THRILLED FOR THE REPORT.

11:04:12AM I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO

11:04:17AM CLARIFY OURSELVES ON THE BACK TOO MUCH.

11:04:19AM ITEMS 30 AND 32, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IS $1,750,000 OF

11:04:25AM FEDERAL MONEY THAT WE'RE GRACIOUSLY PASSING THROUGH TO THESE

11:04:29AM PROJECTS.

11:04:30AM IT'S GREAT.

11:04:31AM I'M GLAD.

11:04:32AM BUT WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN OUR LOCAL BUDGET

11:04:36AM TO DO THESE THINGS.




11:04:38AM WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR AT LEAST THE LAST SIX

11:04:40AM MONTHS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A LOCAL FUNDING SOURCE TO

11:04:47AM ENHANCE THESE PROGRAMS AND GROW THESE PROGRAMS.

11:04:50AM BECAUSE, LIKE I SAY, THE LORD GIVETH, THE LORD TAKETH AWAY.

11:04:58AM THAT FEDERAL MONEY COMES AND GOES AND SEEMS TO GET SMALLER

11:05:00AM AND SMALLER AND SMALLER.

11:05:01AM SO WE NEED TO BECOME MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT IN THAT REGARD.

11:05:04AM I'M THRILLED THAT THE COUNTY, I THINK, THEY HAVE A LITTLE

11:05:08AM BIGGER BUDGET, BUT THEY SET ASIDE $10 MILLION THIS PAST YEAR

11:05:11AM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

11:05:13AM I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF THE MAYOR BY ANY MEANS WHATSOEVER,

11:05:17AM BUT WE NEED TO START FIGURING OUT A WAY TO DO IT MORE

11:05:22AM LOCALLY OR IN ADDITION TO THE FEDERAL MONEY TO DO IT LOCALLY

11:05:26AM AS WELL.

11:05:26AM >>VANESSA McCLEARY: I BELIEVE YOU'LL SEE THAT WHEN THE

11:05:29AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY TEAM'S REPORT COMES OUT.

11:05:32AM YOU'LL SEE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.

11:05:34AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT.

11:05:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

11:05:36AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW ALL OF THESE HAD TO DO WITH

11:05:39AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

11:05:39AM ARE YOU LOOKING AT EACH OF THESE SEPARATELY?

11:05:41AM BECAUSE YOU HAD JUST MENTIONED 30, 32 --

11:05:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M DONE WITH ALL OF THEM.

11:05:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU MIND MOVING THEM?




11:05:48AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GLAD TO MOVE --

11:05:50AM >> SUBSTITUTE.

11:05:50AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION 24 TO 27, WHERE

11:05:54AM APPLICABLE, 30 AND 32.

11:05:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:05:59AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:06:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:06:01AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:06:03AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

11:06:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE, I BELIEVE, TO ITEM 48.

11:06:17AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:06:19AM DENNIS ROGERO, INTERIM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

11:06:21AM I AM HERE ON ITEM 48 ALONG WITH THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR AND

11:06:23AM THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DIRECTOR TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR

11:06:26AM QUESTIONS.

11:06:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:06:32AM OKAY, BEING NONE, SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION?

11:06:35AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:06:36AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:06:38AM ANY IN FAVOR?

11:06:39AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:06:40AM THANK YOU, SIR.

11:06:41AM NEXT MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM 49.

11:06:44AM ANYBODY HERE FOR 49?

11:06:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.




11:06:57AM KELLY AUSTIN, HUMAN RESOURCES.

11:06:59AM WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 49.

11:07:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 49?

11:07:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

11:07:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THIS THE --

11:07:15AM >>THE CLERK: THAT WOULD BE THE SUBSTITUTE ON THE ADDENDUM.

11:07:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.

11:07:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION.

11:07:22AM IS THIS THE ONE WITH UNITED, AND WAS IT CIGNA OR AETNA?

11:07:34AM >> THIS IS OUR MEDICAL PLAN FOR THE CITY.

11:07:36AM WE AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO UNITED HEALTHCARE.

11:07:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ONE, CIGNA, SOMEBODY HAD

11:07:45AM SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT THIS SOME TIME AGO, I BELIEVE.

11:07:50AM WITH THE BIDDING PROCESS, HAD CIGNA COME OUT AHEAD AND THEN

11:07:54AM UNITED OR --

11:07:55AM >> THIS WAS OPEN FOR RFP.

11:07:57AM AND WE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS.

11:07:58AM I WAS NOT PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

11:08:01AM THE FORMER DIRECTOR RETIRED.

11:08:03AM SHE WAS ON THE COMMITTEE.

11:08:04AM SO THE COMMITTEE WENT DOWN BY ONE.

11:08:06AM THEY HAD ROUND ONE OF THE CANDIDATES, THAT MOVED ON TO ROUND

11:08:10AM TWO WHERE THEY HAD SOME FINALISTS.

11:08:13AM IN THAT ROUND TWO, THE PERCENTAGE OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE

11:08:16AM NUMBER ONE AND THE NUMBER TWO WAS VERY, VERY CLOSE.




11:08:20AM BASED ON THE SAVINGS THAT UNITED HEALTHCARE COULD BRING

11:08:25AM FORWARD, WHICH IS ABOUT 1.28 MILLION OVER THE THREE-YEAR

11:08:28AM AGREEMENT AND SOME CONCERNS WE HAD WITH THE FORMULARY THAT

11:08:32AM CIGNA WAS OFFERING AND SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HAD ABOUT

11:08:34AM CIGNA'S ABILITY TO WORK WITH OUR WELLNESS CENTERS THAT WE

11:08:39AM HAVE IN PLACE, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO AWARD THE CONTRACT

11:08:42AM TO UNITED HEALTHCARE.

11:08:44AM THERE WAS A PROTEST, HOWEVER, CIGNA WAS NOT THE PARTY THAT

11:08:48AM PROTESTED.

11:08:49AM IT WAS ANOTHER CARRIER THAT HADN'T EVEN MADE IT INTO THE

11:08:52AM FINALISTS.

11:08:53AM WE LET THAT PROTEST PLAY OUT.

11:08:54AM AFTER THAT PROTEST WAS CONCLUDED, WE AWARDED IT TO UNITED

11:08:57AM HEALTHCARE.

11:08:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO CIGNA WAS UP BY, WHAT, ONE POINT OR

11:09:02AM SOMETHING?

11:09:04AM >> IT WAS MINUSCULE.

11:09:05AM IF YOU DON'T MIND, GREG, IT WAS SO SMALL.

11:09:08AM BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A BAD NUMBER.

11:09:13AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: GOOD MORNING.

11:09:14AM GREG SPEARMAN, PURCHASING DIRECTOR.

11:09:16AM AS MS. AUSTIN SAID, THE DIFFERENCE WAS MINUSCULE.

11:09:21AM WHEN WE BEGUN TO PEEL BACK THE ONION BETWEEN THE TWO

11:09:26AM PROPOSALS IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS TO THE CITY,

11:09:28AM AS MS. AUSTIN POINTED OUT, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE BY




11:09:31AM THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO AWARD TO UNITED

11:09:33AM HEALTHCARE.

11:09:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT'S THE NUMBER?

11:09:39AM WE'VE ASKED TWICE.

11:09:42AM MINUSCULE.

11:09:44AM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER.

11:09:46AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: I BELIEVE POINT DIFFERENCE WAS ABOUT TWO

11:09:48AM POINTS.

11:09:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE NUMBER WAS.

11:09:52AM NOT ABOUT.

11:09:53AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS.

11:09:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO HAS IT?

11:09:55AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS IN FRONT OF ME,

11:09:57AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:09:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO HAS IT?

11:10:00AM LET'S PROVIDE THAT.

11:10:01AM WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER WAS.

11:10:03AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN PROBABLY DEFER IT UNTIL LATER IN

11:10:05AM THE MEETING.

11:10:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

11:10:07AM HOW ABOUT WE DEFER THIS UNTIL 56.

11:10:14AM HOW LONG DO YOU ALL NEED TO GET THOSE NUMBERS?

11:10:17AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: JUST A FEW MINUTES, SIR.

11:10:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

11:10:20AM WE'LL DEFER THIS.




11:10:22AM WE'LL MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 50.

11:10:28AM WHO IS HERE FOR 50?

11:10:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

11:10:41AM WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO AWARD TO THE DAVID

11:10:45AM NELSON CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

11:10:46AM IT'S FOR $3.7 MILLION AND CHANGE FOR THE 34th STREET

11:10:53AM CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.

11:10:55AM SO WE'RE HERE TO GET YOUR APPROVAL OF THAT CONTRACT.

11:10:59AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE

11:11:02AM AWARD OF THAT CONTRACT.

11:11:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:11:05AM >> I APOLOGIZE.

11:11:06AM I DIDN'T GIVE MY NAME.

11:11:07AM JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES

11:11:11AM DEPARTMENT.

11:11:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 50 AND 51, THAT'S PERTAINING TO THE

11:11:15AM ROUNDABOUT, CORRECT?

11:11:17AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: IT INCLUDES THE ROUNDABOUTS, YES, SIR.

11:11:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HATE TO BRING THIS UP, JEAN, BUT WHEN

11:11:23AM CITIZENS COME AND THEY MAKE COMMENTS, I LIKE TO MAKE SURE

11:11:26AM THAT ALL THE FACTS ARE THERE.

11:11:28AM A LADY CAME THIS MORNING AND SAID THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT WE

11:11:31AM DID NOT FOLLOW PROCEDURE BY GOING THROUGH THE MPO.

11:11:34AM DID YOU HEAR THAT THIS MORNING?

11:11:35AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, I DID.




11:11:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?

11:11:39AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY MISINFORMATION

11:11:41AM THAT SHE'S RECEIVED.

11:11:42AM THIS PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE MPO.

11:11:45AM OR, EXCUSE ME, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

11:11:48AM AND SO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE CITY OF

11:11:51AM TAMPA, WE DON'T DO ANY PROJECT THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE

11:11:56AM LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

11:11:57AM THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN DOESN'T GET INTO THE

11:12:01AM DETAILS OF WHETHER THERE IS A ROUNDABOUT OR NOT IN THE

11:12:06AM INTERSECTION BUT DOES SUPPORT THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE 34th

11:12:10AM STREET CORRIDOR, AS WELL AS THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT HAS

11:12:12AM TO BE APPROVED BY THE MPO, WHICH IT HAS BEEN DONE THROUGH

11:12:16AM THE LAP PROCESS THAT WE'RE IN, WHICH IS THE LOCAL AGENCY

11:12:19AM PROGRAM PROCESS WE'VE WORKED WITH FOR THE D.O.T.

11:12:23AM THE MPO HAS APPROVED THIS THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

11:12:27AM THE D.O.T. HAS APPROVED THE PROJECT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

11:12:30AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY FOR MANY YEARS TO TRY TO MAKE

11:12:35AM THIS CORRIDOR SAFER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

11:12:37AM THAT IS OUR GOAL AND OUR MISSION AND OUR DESIRE.

11:12:40AM AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF AWARDING

11:12:44AM THE CONTRACT TO THE LOW BIDDER, WHO IS A VERY CAPABLE

11:12:48AM CONTRACTOR WHO WILL START THE PROJECT NEXT YEAR.

11:12:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT ABOUT MINORITY CONTRACT, PERTAINING TO

11:12:55AM THIS CONTRACT?




11:12:56AM HOW DOES THAT LAY OUT?

11:12:57AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE HAVE, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, OVERALL

11:13:01AM ATTAINMENT OF 20.67% PARTICIPATION ON THIS PROJECT WITH THE

11:13:07AM CONTRACTOR.

11:13:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THAT A SHALL OR GOOD FAITH?

11:13:12AM HOW IS THAT WRITTEN?

11:13:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: MY INFORMATION IT'S AN OVERALL ATTAINMENT.

11:13:17AM I'D HAVE TO ASK MR. HART FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION OF THAT.

11:13:21AM BUT MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF PARTICIPATION

11:13:25AM WE WILL SEE ON THE CONTRACT.

11:13:31AM >> GREGORY HART, MANAGER EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.

11:13:36AM SIR, THAT IS A COMMITMENT.

11:13:37AM IT'S A 20.6% CONFIRMED COMMITMENT ON PARTICIPATION.

11:13:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M GOING TO CAUTION YOU.

11:13:43AM I HEAR THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THIS COUNCIL

11:13:47AM AWARDS THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, THAT 20.6 YOU'RE SAYING, I

11:13:52AM WANT TO MAKE SURE, SOME GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE

11:13:55AM MONITORS.

11:13:56AM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM MY CONSTITUENTS ON A

11:13:59AM PROJECT IN THEIR COMMUNITY, SOME ARE FOR OR AGAINST, AND

11:14:03AM THEY LOOK OUT ON THAT ROADWAY AND THEY DON'T SEE ANYBODY

11:14:05AM THAT LOOK LIKE THEM FROM THEIR COMMUNITY WORKING ON THAT

11:14:08AM PROJECT.

11:14:09AM SO I GUARANTEE YOU, THEY DON'T SEE ANYBODY OUT THERE

11:14:11AM WORKING, I'M GOING TO GET TONS OF CALLS THAT WE HAVE A




11:14:14AM ROUNDABOUT AND WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE

11:14:18AM MINORITIES WORKING.

11:14:20AM I NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MONITORING THIS

11:14:23AM CONTRACT, NOT JUST SAYING WE'RE PUTTING A CONTRACT OUT.

11:14:26AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GUARANTEE OF THIS

11:14:28AM COUNCIL, I'M TELLING MY COLLEAGUES, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW

11:14:31AM IMPORTANT THIS IS ABOUT THIS 34th STREET PROJECT, WE'LL

11:14:34AM HEAR ABOUT IT, THAT WE ARE MONITORING THE PROJECT AND MAKING

11:14:36AM SURE THAT WE'RE ATTAINING THAT GOAL.

11:14:40AM >> YES, SIR, ABSOLUTELY.

11:14:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:14:46AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

11:14:47AM AND THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR BRINGING UP THAT

11:14:51AM POINT.

11:14:52AM MR. HART, GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS ON THIS IN REGARD TO WMBE.

11:14:58AM ON THE COVER PAGE, IT DOES CONFIRM THE 20% SMALL BUSINESS

11:15:03AM AND WOMEN AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS TOTAL, WHICH IS, I

11:15:08AM THINK, GREAT.

11:15:10AM THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

11:15:11AM WHEN YOU GET TO THE LAST PAGE AND IT HAS THE BREAKOUT,

11:15:15AM AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK TOO MUCH,

11:15:19AM BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THIS IS IN EAST TAMPA AND GOES RIGHT

11:15:23AM THROUGH THE HEART OF THE TRADITIONAL AFRICAN AMERICAN

11:15:26AM COMMUNITY, THE BREAKOUT SHOWS COMPANY BY COMPANY THAT'S

11:15:31AM HISPANIC MALE, HISPANIC MALE, CAUCASIAN MALE, CAUCASIAN




11:15:36AM MALE.

11:15:36AM THESE ARE THE OWNERSHIPS.

11:15:37AM CAUCASIAN FEMALE.

11:15:40AM CAUCASIAN MALE.

11:15:41AM CAUCASIAN FEMALE.

11:15:43AM FROM WHAT I CAN SEE ON THAT LIST, THERE'S NOT ONE

11:15:47AM BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS.

11:15:48AM SO THAT'S THE BAD NEWS.

11:15:51AM I KNOW WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO IMPROVE THIS AND MAKE

11:15:56AM STRIDES, BUT JUST OUT OF FAIRNESS AND OPEN GOVERNMENT, I

11:16:01AM JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.

11:16:06AM >> MORE THAN LIKELY, SIR, I WOULD EXPECT THAT IN TERMS OF

11:16:09AM WORKFORCE EMPLOYMENT, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE PRIME

11:16:15AM CONTRACT, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE FEDERAL MBE AND WMBE FIRMS

11:16:21AM HAVE ETHNIC MINORITIES ON THEIR WHERE WAS.

11:16:23AM I, TOO, HOPE TO SEE FOLKS ON THE PROJECT.

11:16:25AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.

11:16:27AM I AGREE THAT ON THE WORKFORCE IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO GET

11:16:30AM INTO THAT NITTY-GRITTY DETAIL, BUT THE WAY WE BUILD UP OUR

11:16:37AM COMMUNITY IS ALSO TO GET THAT BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS.

11:16:40AM I KNOW WE'RE WORKING HARD ON IT.

11:16:42AM I BEAT UP ON YOU EVERY WEEK OR TWO ON IT, AS DO THE REST OF

11:16:47AM US.

11:16:49AM ANYWAY --

11:16:50AM >> THANK YOU.




11:16:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

11:16:54AM MAY I HAVE SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION?

11:16:56AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:16:58AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:16:59AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:17:00AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:17:00AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 53.

11:17:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT ITEMS 50 AND 51?

11:17:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR CLARIFICATION, MOVE BOTH

11:17:10AM RESOLUTIONS.

11:17:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND ON BOTH.

11:17:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: CLARIFIED.

11:17:13AM 53.

11:17:15AM ANYONE HERE FOR 53?

11:17:29AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW

11:17:31AM AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER.

11:17:33AM I'M SERVING ON THE ROBLES PARK VILLAGE ZION CEMETERY

11:17:38AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

11:17:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: MS. ZELMAN, YOU HAD --

11:17:41AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

11:17:43AM I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT KELLY HAS THE ANSWER ON THE

11:17:46AM QUESTION ABOUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE IF YOU WANTED TO WRAP

11:17:48AM THAT UP BEFORE BEGINNING THIS, BECAUSE THIS COULD GO A

11:17:54AM WHILE.

11:18:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL GIVE IT A MINUTE AND SEE IF COUNCILMAN




11:18:03AM GUDES COMES.

11:18:04AM ITEM 49 FOR YOUR QUESTION.

11:18:35AM >> THANK YOU.

11:18:38AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: GREG SPEARMAN, PURCHASING AND KELLY AUSTIN,

11:18:41AM HUMAN RESOURCES.

11:18:42AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE NUMBER OF

11:18:45AM POINTS FOR CIGNA WAS 177.

11:18:48AM AND UNITED HEALTHCARE WAS 176.

11:18:50AM THERE WAS ONLY A ONE-POINT DIFFERENCE.

11:18:54AM >> THAT'S OUT OF 200 POINTS ON THE SCORING.

11:18:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN WE'RE DELIBERATING ON SITUATIONS HERE,

11:19:02AM THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE NUMBER.

11:19:06AM I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL THAT PEOPLE KNOW HOW PEOPLE SCORE.

11:19:10AM IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE DECISION, WE CAN'T SAY IT WAS

11:19:12AM MINUSCULE.

11:19:13AM IF I'M IN A RACE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT MY SCORE WAS.

11:19:17AM I'M A TRACK STAR -- EVERY TRACK STAR WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THE

11:19:22AM SCORE WAS.

11:19:22AM IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO KNOW WHAT THAT SCORE WAS.

11:19:26AM THANK YOU.

11:19:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:19:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

11:19:33AM SINCE YOU DISCUSSED IT, I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.

11:19:35AM YOU MENTIONED SOME OTHER CRITERIA USED THAT PUT THE SECOND

11:19:39AM COMPANY ABOVE THE FIRST COMPANY.




11:19:42AM WOULDN'T THOSE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE SCORING?

11:19:47AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: YES, THEY WERE.

11:19:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND SO --

11:19:51AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: WE DON'T EVALUATE ANY RFPs ON CRITERIA

11:19:54AM THAT'S NOT IN THE REQUEST PROPOSAL.

11:19:58AM EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IN THE RFP.

11:20:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW AS MUCH AS YOU ALL ABOUT

11:20:02AM THIS.

11:20:03AM I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION.

11:20:04AM IF THEY'VE ALREADY GOT -- IF THE SECOND BIDDER ALREADY GOT

11:20:08AM CREDIT FOR THE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE

11:20:12AM GAVE THEM DOUBLE CREDIT.

11:20:13AM I KNOW WE'RE ONLY ONE POINT APART, IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN

11:20:19AM COUNTED ONCE, WHY WOULD WE --

11:20:21AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: NO ONE GETS DOUBLE CREDIT.

11:20:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN EVALUATED BASED ON

11:20:27AM THOSE CRITERIA AND THE OTHER COMPANY -- FORGOT THE COMPANIES

11:20:31AM --

11:20:32AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: THEY ARE ALLOWED TO COME BACK WITH A BEST

11:20:34AM AND FINAL.

11:20:35AM AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

11:20:37AM WHEN THAT PROCESS OCCURRED, AS MS. AUSTIN POINTED OUT, THERE

11:20:42AM WERE VERY DISTINCT AND UNIQUE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO

11:20:46AM COMPANIES AND THAT'S WHAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE.

11:20:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.




11:20:56AM I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I MAY BE

11:20:58AM THE ONLY PERSON ON COUNCIL THAT HAS THIS HEALTH BENEFIT.

11:21:01AM BUT WHAT IS THE COST-EFFECTIVENESS TO EITHER PLAN FOR THE

11:21:06AM EMPLOYEES AND FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA?

11:21:08AM >> SO THE UNITED HEALTHCARE AGREEMENT, THAT IS A THREE-YEAR

11:21:11AM AGREEMENT, WILL OFFER US 1.28 MILLION IN SAVINGS IN ADDITION

11:21:15AM TO CONTINUING THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE

11:21:18AM WELLNESS CENTERS, UNITED HEALTHCARE HAS INTEGRATED VERY WELL

11:21:22AM WITH US ON THE WELLNESS CENTERS.

11:21:25AM THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US.

11:21:26AM CIGNA WASN'T ABLE TO DISPLAY WITH ANY CONFIDENCE THAT THEY

11:21:30AM WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP THAT MANTLE AND CONTINUE THAT

11:21:32AM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WELLNESS CENTERS.

11:21:34AM SO THAT WAS PRETTY IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL.

11:21:36AM AND THERE WAS SOME, AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, SOME

11:21:39AM RESTRICTIONS ON THE FORMULARY ON THE CIGNA OPTION THAT WE

11:21:42AM THOUGHT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DISRUPTIVE TO THE EMPLOYEES.

11:21:44AM BUT THE OVERALL SAVINGS TO ANSWER YOUR INITIAL QUESTION OVER

11:21:48AM THE THREE YEARS THAT UNITED IS PROVIDING US VERSUS THE

11:21:51AM CURRENT CONTRACT, PREVIOUS CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH THEM IS

11:21:54AM 1.28 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS.

11:21:56AM WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE PUT FORWARD.

11:22:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:22:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED.

11:22:05AM SO I'M IN THIS RACE, THERE'S THREE OF US IN THIS RACE.




11:22:11AM ORLANDO GUDES HEALTH CARE.

11:22:14AM >> OKAY.

11:22:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S A MINUSCULE POINT, BUT I'M A NUMBER

11:22:19AM THREE PERSON AND I'M ABLE TO COME IN AND TALK TO YOU AGAIN

11:22:26AM AND RESUBMIT.

11:22:27AM I CAN GIVE A BETTER NUMBER.

11:22:31AM I GUESS I WOULD GET THE BID BECAUSE I'M NUMBER THREE GUY AND

11:22:33AM I CAME IN AND GAVE YOU SOME MORE BENEFITS.

11:22:37AM IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?

11:22:38AM >> THE FINAL CANDIDATES ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK

11:22:40AM IN AND GIVE US THEIR LAST, BEST, AND FINAL OFFER.

11:22:44AM IT WASN'T EXCLUSIVE TO ONE PROVIDER OVER THE OTHER.

11:22:48AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE

11:22:52AM RFP PROCESS, WHILE OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A SCORING MECHANISM

11:22:56AM THAT YOU USE TO DETERMINE THE CRITERIA, ULTIMATELY THAT

11:22:59AM DECISION LIES WITH US IN HUMAN RESOURCES TO SELECT THE PLAN

11:23:02AM THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE

11:23:06AM EMPLOYEES.

11:23:06AM ESSENTIALLY IT WAS A STATISTICAL DEAD HEAT.

11:23:10AM WE WERE ONE POINT OFF.

11:23:14AM BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT UNITED HEALTHCARE BROUGHT TO THE

11:23:16AM TABLE WE FELT THAT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND

11:23:18AM THE EMPLOYEES AND THAT'S WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE TO AWARD

11:23:21AM THE CONTRACT TO UNITED HEALTHCARE.

11:23:22AM BUT WE ARE NOT BOUND BY WHO MERELY SCORES THE HIGHEST ON THE




11:23:27AM RFP PROCESS.

11:23:29AM CLEARLY, THAT SHOULD BE AN INDICATOR, BUT WE'RE TALKING A

11:23:32AM ONE-POINT DIFFERENCE.

11:23:33AM SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO BOIL IT DOWN AND LOOK AT WHAT WERE

11:23:36AM THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF BOTH CARRIERS.

11:23:39AM AND THAT'S THE DECISION THAT WE ARRIVED AT.

11:23:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

11:23:43AM I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

11:23:46AM THIS IS WHY THIS I GUESS KINDLED IN MY MIND, SO TO SPEAK.

11:23:53AM THIS WILL HAVE NO BEARING ON PROPOSALS -- I KNOW POLICE AND

11:23:56AM FIRE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HEALTH TRUST.

11:23:57AM THIS HAS NO RELEVANCY TO THAT WHATSOEVER, CORRECT?

11:24:03AM >> YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I PREFER TO KEEP THAT BROAD

11:24:05AM BECAUSE THE UNION PARTNERS AREN'T HERE.

11:24:05AM BUT WE HAD A THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH UNITED HEALTHCARE

11:24:08AM WITH THE OPTION FOR TWO EXTENSIONS, WHICH WE HAD DONE.

11:24:13AM WE WERE OUT OF EXTENSIONS.

11:24:14AM WE HAD TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID.

11:24:16AM WE HAVE HEALTH CARE OBLIGATIONS OBVIOUSLY TO EVERYBODY IN

11:24:18AM THE CITY, AND WITH THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT

11:24:21AM FORTH BY IFF AND PBA, THEIR PROPOSALS SHOULD IT GO TO

11:24:27AM FRUITION WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL 2021 REGARDLESS.

11:24:31AM WHAT WE BARGAIN ACROSS THE TABLE WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON WHAT

11:24:36AM WE NEEDED TO GET ACCOMPLISHED HERE AND VICE VERSA.

11:24:38AM NOW, POTENTIALLY, BASED ON WHERE WE END WITH NEGOTIATIONS AS




11:24:43AM IT RELATES TO THE DESIRE FOR A HEALTH CARE TRUST, UNITED

11:24:46AM COULD COME BACK TO US AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE NEED TO

11:24:49AM REEVALUATE YOUR PLAN, YOUR THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT BECAUSE NOW

11:24:54AM YOUR POPULATION IS DIFFERENT.

11:24:55AM BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE

11:24:59AM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FAIR TO MY UNION PARTNERS.

11:25:02AM CLEARLY, THERE COULD PROBABLY BE SOME EVALUATION IF THAT WAS

11:25:04AM TO HAPPEN.

11:25:05AM BUT IT WON'T STOP OR PREVENT US FROM BARGAINING IN GOOD

11:25:13AM FAITH WHAT THEIR DESIRE IS FOR HEALTH-CARE COST.

11:25:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

11:25:15AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:25:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BENNETT AND I HAD THE SAME DISCUSSION

11:25:20AM YESTERDAY.

11:25:21AM I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM YOU GUYS AND PERHAPS

11:25:25AM LEGAL, WHICHEVER LEGAL IS WORKING ON THIS CONTRACT, THAT

11:25:33AM THERE IS AN EXPRESSED PROVISION IN THE UNITED AGREEMENT THAT

11:25:37AM ALLOWS FOR THE REVISITING OF THIS IN TERMS OF THAT IT WOULD

11:25:43AM BE REOPENED.

11:25:43AM I GUESS I'M CONFUSED IN TERMS OF HOW -- WHAT THAT LANGUAGE

11:25:47AM IS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY REOPEN IT.

11:25:53AM >> DAVE MIGHT HAVE THAT.

11:25:55AM IT MAY OR MAY NOT OCCUR.

11:25:57AM THEY MAY LET US RIDE OUT --

11:26:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF IFS.




11:26:01AM THE MORE IN ME SAYS LET'S MAKE SURE IF THOSE IFS COME TO

11:26:08AM FRUITION, AS YOU SAID, HOW THE CITY DEALS WITH THAT.

11:26:12AM THAT IS A BIG ISSUE.

11:26:14AM >> IT IS POTENTIALLY A VERY BIG ISSUE FOR THE CITY.

11:26:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE LOSE POTENTIALLY HALF OF OUR

11:26:19AM POPULATION OR A THIRD OF OUR POPULATION --

11:26:21AM >> ROUGHLY 1500, GIVE OR TAKE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE HEAD

11:26:25AM COUNT.

11:26:25AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE A THIRD OF OUR HEALTH CARE

11:26:27AM POPULATION, THEN WHAT WOULD OR COULD UNITED DO TO US AT THAT

11:26:33AM POINT?

11:26:34AM AND DO WE LOSE ALL THE GAINS THAT WE MADE?

11:26:37AM >> THAT IS A POTENTIAL, YES.

11:26:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHO ARE YOU LOOKING AT BACK THERE?

11:26:43AM >> DAVE WAS GOING TO SEE -- HE HAS THE UNITED HEALTHCARE

11:26:47AM CONTRACT.

11:26:47AM HE WAS GOING TO SEE IF HE COULD FIND IT BRIEFLY.

11:26:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE SPENDING A

11:26:51AM LOT OF TIME ON THIS.

11:26:52AM I THINK I READ $49 MILLION IN TERMS OF OUR --

11:26:58AM >> THIS PLAN IS 58 MILLION ANNUALLY.

11:27:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S A BIG DEAL.

11:27:04AM >> IT IS A VERY BIG DEAL, YES, SIR.

11:27:06AM AS FAR AS THE BARGAINING GOES, THOUGH, WHATEVER ACTIONS

11:27:09AM UNITED COULD TAKE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WAS A HEALTH CARE




11:27:13AM TRUST BARGAINED, WE CAN'T NOT BARGAIN IT.

11:27:17AM WE WOULD HAVE TO ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES AS THEY COME IF THAT

11:27:20AM WAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAME TO FRUITION.

11:27:23AM WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AND REEVALUATE WITH THE SMALLER

11:27:26AM POPULATION, BECAUSE THE REST OF US AND ATU WOULD STILL

11:27:29AM REMAIN BEHIND.

11:27:30AM AND WE WOULD HAVE TO, IF NECESSARY, RENEGOTIATE WITH UNITED

11:27:33AM OR PUT IT OUT FOR AN RFP AND SEE WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BEAR

11:27:37AM AT THAT TIME.

11:27:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE A

11:27:40AM YEAR TO ADDRESS IT FROM RIGHT NOW.

11:27:42AM >> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, YES.

11:27:43AM BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT THE UNION IS LOOKING TO PUT FORWARD,

11:27:46AM THEY ARE NOT EVEN LOOKING TO HAVE IT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL

11:27:48AM PLAN YEAR 2021.

11:27:50AM SO WE WOULD HAVE ALL OF 20 TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

11:27:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SPEARMAN, WHAT DID YOU LEARN?

11:27:55AM >>GREG SPEARMAN: TYPICALLY, IN ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS, WE DO

11:27:59AM HAVE A TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE AND ALSO A TERMINATION

11:28:02AM FOR CAUSE.

11:28:03AM I JUST CONFERRING WITH OUR BENEFITS MANAGER HOW THAT WORKS

11:28:06AM IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

11:28:09AM >> DAVE BLASEWITZ, BENEFITS MANAGER, HUMAN RESOURCES.

11:28:13AM THE CARRIERS, AS PART OF THE RFP PROCESS, THEY PROPOSE THEIR

11:28:19AM FEES BASED UPON AN ENROLLMENT COUNT THAT WE GIVE THEM.




11:28:23AM IF THAT ENROLLMENT COUNT CHANGES MATERIALLY, IN THE RFP

11:28:28AM RESPONSE, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY -- THAT WOULD TRIGGER A

11:28:31AM RECALCULATION OF THE FEE.

11:28:33AM NOW, WHAT THE FEE WOULD RECALCULATE TO WOULD REALLY BE BASED

11:28:38AM UPON NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE CARRIER AND THE CITY AT THAT

11:28:40AM POINT IN TIME.

11:28:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THAT WASN'T SATISFACTORY, THEN WE

11:28:45AM COULD GO INTO THE TERMINATION PROCESS?

11:28:48AM >> ABSOLUTELY.

11:28:48AM ABSOLUTELY.

11:28:49AM AND WE WOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION EARLIER RATHER

11:28:54AM THAN LATER BASED UPON THE POLICE AND FIRE PROPOSAL AND WHERE

11:29:00AM THAT GOES WITH TIME TO MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGE.

11:29:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:29:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

11:29:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HEARD ALL ABOUT INSURANCE AND THIS

11:29:16AM INSURANCE.

11:29:16AM I COME FROM CS UNIVERSITY, CALLED COMMON SENSE, SOMETHING WE

11:29:20AM DON'T PRACTICE ANYMORE.

11:29:20AM BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE WITH ANYONE.

11:29:24AM WE'RE SELF-INSURED.

11:29:26AM >> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

11:29:26AM THEY ARE OUR ADMINISTRATOR.

11:29:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: INSURANCE, INSURANCE, INSURANCE.

11:29:29AM AND IT'S ALL NOT FRABULATED IN THE RIGHT WAY BECAUSE WE ARE




11:29:35AM SELF-INSURED.

11:29:36AM WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS HANDLING THE PAPERWORK AND THE ITEMS

11:29:38AM AND THE COST RELATED TO WHAT WE NEED, AM I CORRECT?

11:29:40AM >> YES.

11:29:40AM WE DICTATE WHAT THE PLAN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

11:29:42AM THEY ADMINISTER IT FOR US.

11:29:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT, I WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINATORS OF

11:29:47AM THE HEALTH CLINICS, AND I VOTED AGAINST MY OWN IDEA.

11:29:49AM BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS IN BRANDON, AND WE'RE PAYING $7500 A

11:29:52AM MONTH.

11:29:52AM THE OTHER ONE IS IN TAMPA, AND WE'RE PAYING $7500 A MONTH.

11:29:54AM THAT'S 15,000 A MONTH TIMES HOW MANY YEARS?

11:29:59AM TIMES HOW MANY MONTHS?

11:30:01AM WE LOST OVER $2 MILLION.

11:30:03AM THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD NOT BE PAYING RENT.

11:30:06AM SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BUILDING.

11:30:07AM I'VE SAID THAT EVERY YEAR I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE AND IT DOESN'T

11:30:10AM HAPPEN.

11:30:10AM I'M NOT BLAMING YOU.

11:30:11AM I'M BLAMING US.

11:30:13AM THAT'S THE END OF MY STORY.

11:30:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:30:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:30:17AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:30:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS I ALWAYS LOOK AT FAIRNESS, I GUESS.




11:30:25AM WHEN WAS THIS RFP PUT OUT AND WHEN DID IT CLOSE?

11:30:28AM WHY IS IT COMING TO US SO LATE FOR APPROVAL?

11:30:35AM >> WELL, PART OF THAT DELAY, COUNCILMAN, WOULD HAVE BEEN DUE

11:30:38AM TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A PROTEST AND THERE ARE TIME

11:30:41AM PERIODS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

11:30:42AM WHEN THERE WAS A PROTEST BY ONE OF THE CARRIERS WHO DID NOT

11:30:45AM MAKE THE TOP TWO, I THINK IT WAS THE THIRD OR FOURTH

11:30:49AM CARRIER, THAT PROTEST, THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME THAT HAS TO

11:30:51AM GO BY FOR THEM TO BE ALLOWED TO PROTEST FOR THE CITY TO

11:30:56AM RESPOND TO THAT PROTEST AND THEN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT

11:30:59AM THEY ARE GOING TO PROCEED.

11:31:00AM THEY OPTED TO NOT PROCEED AFTER THEY GOT THE CITY'S

11:31:02AM RESPONSE, AND AT THAT POINT, WE COULD THEN GO IN AND AWARD

11:31:05AM THE CONTRACT TO UNITED HEALTHCARE.

11:31:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CIGNA WAS NOT ONE OF THE ONES THAT PROTEST?

11:31:13AM >> NO, CIGNA DID NOT PROTEST.

11:31:15AM NO, SIR.

11:31:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

11:31:23AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON ITEM NUMBER 49?

11:31:27AM WE'RE GOING TO BE SAVING, I THINK YOU SAID 1.4 --

11:31:32AM >> 1.28 OVER THREE YEARS.

11:31:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM

11:31:40AM BEFORE WE MOVE?

11:31:40AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

11:31:42AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.




11:31:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 49.

11:31:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN --

11:31:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SUBSTITUTE.

11:31:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?

11:31:57AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:31:58AM NEXT WE MOVE TO THE ONE THAT WE INTERRUPTED.

11:32:06AM ITEM 53.

11:32:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

11:32:14AM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW AND HISTORIC

11:32:17AM PRESERVATION MANAGER.

11:32:18AM BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE RELATED TO THE

11:32:20AM ZION CEMETERY PROPERTY.

11:32:23AM LEROY MOORE WITH THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE

11:32:26AM ARCHAEOLOGICAL TEAM ARE HERE.

11:32:28AM I THINK THEY ARE BETTER SUITED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE

11:32:31AM BROADEST DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE ON THIS.

11:32:42AM >>LEROY MOORE: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:32:44AM THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR INTEREST IN WANTING TO GET AN UPDATE

11:32:47AM ON THE ROBLES ZION CEMETERY MATTER.

11:32:51AM WE PASSED OUT PREVIOUSLY TO YOU A THREE-PAGE HANDOUT THAT

11:32:54AM JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY, HOW WE CAME TO

11:32:56AM BE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL EXISTENCE OF ZION AND WHAT WE THE

11:33:02AM HOUSING AUTHORITY DID IMMEDIATELY AFTER HEARING THAT

11:33:06AM DISCOVERY FROM THE REPORTER.

11:33:08AM THIS WHOLE STORY WAS -- THE WHOLE RECOVERY OF ZION WAS DUE




11:33:15AM TO

11:33:16AM JUST INCREDIBLE JOURNALISM.

11:33:18AM LOCALLY HERE.

11:33:20AM WHEN WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT, THERE WAS JUST THIS DISBELIEF

11:33:28AM THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE TRUE.

11:33:29AM SO WE IMMEDIATELY, WITHIN A MONTH, HIRED CARDNO TO ACTUALLY

11:33:34AM KICK OFF WHAT WE CALL A PHASE ONE OF OUR SITE ASSESSMENT.

11:33:37AM AND THAT'S WHERE WE ACTUALLY START OUR REDEVELOPMENT

11:33:41AM PROCESSES, LITERALLY A YEAR BEFORE WE START ANY RELOCATION,

11:33:44AM WE START WITH A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL TO SEE WHAT THE

11:33:47AM ENVIRONMENTAL, HISTORICAL, SIGNIFICANCE OF THE AREA IS, WHAT

11:33:51AM COULD POSSIBLY BE UNDERGROUND THERE IN THE FORM OF GAS TANKS

11:33:56AM AND ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS THAT HAVE LEECHED ONTO THE SITE SO

11:34:00AM THAT AS WE START THE REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS WE CAN PLAN WITH

11:34:03AM ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION.

11:34:07AM THROUGH THE PHASE ONE, CONFIRMED THE PREVIOUS EXISTENCE OF A

11:34:11AM CEMETERY ON A SMALL PORTION.

11:34:13AM PAGE ONE OF WHAT I PASSED OUT TO YOU, THE SQUARE, IT'S

11:34:16AM ACTUALLY NOT A SQUARE, IT'S A LITTLE SMALLER THAN A SQUARE

11:34:20AM THERE.

11:34:21AM BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU ROBLES PARK IN RELATION TO

11:34:23AM WHAT WE NOW KNOW AS ZION.

11:34:25AM ROBLES PARK IS A 35-ACRE SITE.

11:34:29AM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BACK IN EARLY, LATE 1940s, EARLY

11:34:34AM 1950s, ACQUIRED ALL THIS LAND TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THIS 433




11:34:39AM UNIT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY NOW KNOWN AS ROBLES PARK VILLAGE.

11:34:43AM A SMALL PORTION OF THAT REPRESENTED WITHIN THE YELLOW BOX

11:34:49AM THERE WAS LAND THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ZION CEMETERY.

11:34:53AM WE KNEW NOW THAT WE HAD CONFIRMED THAT A CEMETERY ONCE

11:34:57AM EXISTED, WE, I SAY WE, MEANING THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION,

11:35:02AM BECAUSE BACK IN 1951, AS WE'VE DISCOVERED THROUGH THE

11:35:07AM INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM, AS WELL AS OUR PHASE ONE AND PHASE

11:35:11AM TWO ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESSES, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ACTUALLY

11:35:15AM DOING THE CONSTRUCTION OF ROBLES BACK IN 1951, ACTUALLY DUG

11:35:20AM UP CASKETS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND CONFIRMED THAT THERE

11:35:25AM WERE BODIES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY INTERRED AT ZION.

11:35:30AM WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT, DID THAT CAUSE THE HOUSING

11:35:33AM AUTHORITY TO RETHINK PROCEEDING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF

11:35:36AM THESE FIVE BUILDINGS IN PARTICULAR OVER WHAT THEY SHOULD

11:35:40AM HAVE AT THAT TIME KNOWN AS ZION.

11:35:43AM NO ONE TO DATE COULD GIVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE, BUT DECISIONS

11:35:50AM MADE BY GENERATIONS PAST HAVE NOW BEEN COVERED IN THIS

11:35:55AM EFFORT, AND WE ARE ABOUT TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, THE

11:35:59AM MOST HONORABLE THING WE CAN.

11:36:01AM THE FIRST THING WE DID WHEN WE DISCOVERED, ZION DOES INDEED

11:36:06AM EXIST AND IT IS UNDER A PORTION OF ROBLES PARK VILLAGE.

11:36:09AM NOT UNDER ALL OF ROBLES PARK.

11:36:11AM IT'S UNDER A PORTION OF ROBLES PARK.

11:36:13AM WE IDENTIFIED THOSE FIVE BUILDINGS IMPACTED.

11:36:15AM WE MET WITH THE FAMILIES.




11:36:17AM WE ASSEMBLED A ZION ARCHAEOLOGICAL CONSULTATION COMMITTEE

11:36:21AM THAT CONSIST OF 22 MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE.

11:36:24AM PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED ON ISSUES LIKE THIS AND

11:36:26AM WANT TO GET TO THE RIGHT AND RESPONSIBLE SOLUTION.

11:36:32AM WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT, VERY

11:36:36AM MOTION AT TIMES DISCOVERY, AND WE WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD

11:36:41AM SOLID COMMITTEE THAT ACTUALLY REPRESENTED THE WHOLE

11:36:43AM COMMUNITY.

11:36:44AM BOTH PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY LIVE THERE, RESIDENT COUNCIL

11:36:49AM LEADERSHIP PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

11:36:50AM CITY OF TAMPA, I THINK THERE WERE FOUR, FIVE MEMBERS FROM

11:36:53AM CITY OF TAMPA THAT'S PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

11:36:54AM WE ALSO HAVE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS, NAACP AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL

11:37:01AM PROFESSIONALS, USF AND OTHERS THAT ARE PART OF THAT

11:37:03AM COMMITTEE.

11:37:04AM I THINK ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE DID WAS ASSEMBLE THIS

11:37:11AM COMMITTEE OF REAL CLEAR VOICES THAT WANT TO GET TO THE RIGHT

11:37:14AM SOLUTION, AND THEY HAVE CERTAINLY HELPED GUIDE US TO WHERE

11:37:18AM WE ARE TODAY, WHICH IS KNOWING THAT ZION EXISTED.

11:37:21AM SECONDLY, KNOWING THAT UNFORTUNATELY THOSE BODIES ARE STILL

11:37:24AM INTERRED THERE.

11:37:26AM THE ONES THAT WE DISCOVERED TO DATE WE THINK IS STILL NOT

11:37:30AM ALL THAT IS INTERRED THERE, BUT WE HAVE X-RAYED THAT PORTION

11:37:36AM OF THE GROUND THAT'S EASILY ESSENTIAL AS OF TODAY.

11:37:42AM WE STARTED THE RELOCATION OF THE 32 UNITS THAT SIT ON TOP OF




11:37:46AM ZION, AND OF THE 32 UNITS, 29 WERE OCCUPIED AT THE TIME.

11:37:52AM 19 OF THE FAMILIES AS OF THIS WEEK HAVE RELOCATED.

11:37:56AM WE MADE VOUCHERS AVAILABLE AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR OTHER

11:38:00AM VACANCIES THAT EXIST THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

11:38:02AM WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF RELOCATION PROCESS,

11:38:06AM WHICH IS REAL PATIENT, VERY THOROUGH, VERY EVOLVED AND

11:38:09AM DETAILED RELOCATION PROCESS THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH WHEN

11:38:12AM WE'RE DOING REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE WANT THESE FAMILIES TO

11:38:15AM BENEFIT FROM THE SAME LEVEL OF COUNSELING AND CASE

11:38:18AM MANAGEMENT.

11:38:18AM SO ALL THE FAMILIES ACTUALLY HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT.

11:38:21AM THEY ARE ALL GETTING ASSISTANCE.

11:38:22AM WE'RE PAYING FOR ALL THE RELOCATION COST.

11:38:25AM WE'RE MAKING IT SUCH THAT THEY CAN RELOCATE AND NOT HAVE AN

11:38:28AM INCREASE IN COST OF HOUSING, AND THEY ARE CHOOSING

11:38:32AM INCREDIBLY GOOD COMMUNITIES TO MOVE INTO, SO WHEN THE

11:38:36AM RELOCATION IS COMPLETE, I'D LOVE TO ACTUALLY SHARE WITH YOU

11:38:39AM WHERE THOSE 29 FAMILIES ARE MOVED TO.

11:38:41AM I HAVE WITH ME, MEMBERS FROM CARDNO.

11:38:44AM CARDNO IS THE --

11:38:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS A QUICK QUESTION.

11:38:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE FAMILIES THAT -- THANK YOU FOR HANDLING

11:38:52AM THIS WHOLE EFFORT SO SENSITIVELY AND PROACTIVELY.

11:38:57AM OF THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN RELOCATED, DID ANY OF THEM

11:38:59AM WANT TO STAY OR WERE THEY HAPPY TO GET OUT?




11:39:03AM >>LEROY MOORE: THAT WAS AN OPTION.

11:39:04AM WE HAVE 433 UNITS AT ROBLES.

11:39:06AM SO THE OPTION IS TO RELOCATE TO ANOTHER UNIT THAT'S NOT OVER

11:39:09AM ZION AT ROBLES.

11:39:10AM NOT ONE OF THE FAMILIES WANTED TO STAY AT ROBLES.

11:39:14AM IT'S THEIR CHOICE.

11:39:16AM IF THEY WANT TO STAY, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO STAY.

11:39:19AM IF THEY WANT SECTION 8, WE PUT A VOUCHER IN THEIR HAND AND

11:39:22AM ASSIST THEM WITH GETTING RELOCATED.

11:39:23AM AND IF THEY WANT TO RELOCATE TO ONE OF OUR OTHER 29, 30

11:39:27AM PROPERTIES, THEY GET FIRST RIGHT OF ANY VACANCY THAT COMES

11:39:30AM UP THERE.

11:39:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AT TIMES I'M ALWAYS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY

11:39:34AM AND PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME.

11:39:35AM WHEN I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER, I DON'T GIVE AN

11:39:39AM ANSWER.

11:39:39AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT ON RECORD TO ASK THIS QUESTION,

11:39:41AM THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE HISTORY OF THAT PROPERTY, BECAUSE

11:39:44AM PEOPLE SAY, WHAT IS CITY COUNCIL DOING?

11:39:47AM THAT'S CITY LAND.

11:39:49AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THAT ON RECORD, ROBLES PARK, THOSE

11:39:54AM PROPERTIES IS OWNED BY THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND NOT

11:39:56AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, CORRECT?

11:39:58AM >>LEROY MOORE: THAT'S CORRECT.

11:39:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CITY OF TAMPA HAS NO RIGHT OR AUTHORITY TO




11:40:01AM DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT BELONGS TO A

11:40:03AM PRIVATE OWNER WHICH IS THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, CORRECT?

11:40:08AM >>LEROY MOORE: THERE ARE CERTAIN STREETS THAT RUN THROUGH

11:40:10AM AND AROUND.

11:40:12AM THERE IS A LONG-STANDING COOPERATION BETWEEN THE HOUSING

11:40:17AM AUTHORITY AND CITY.

11:40:18AM WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN THIS COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE STRONG

11:40:21AM PARTNERSHIP.

11:40:21AM WE NEVER LOOK AT A PROBLEM LIKE THIS AS BEING THE HOUSING

11:40:24AM AUTHORITY INDEPENDENT OR ANY CITY GUIDANCE IN CONSULTATION

11:40:27AM ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

11:40:28AM THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDED FIVE MEMBERS OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF ON

11:40:31AM THIS COMMITTEE.

11:40:32AM AND THANK YOU, MR. GUDES, FOR ACTUALLY BEING ON THE

11:40:34AM COMMITTEE AS WELL AS OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE ACTUALLY

11:40:37AM COME TO THE SITE AND WALKED THIS AREA AND ACTUALLY -- WANTED

11:40:42AM TO ACTUALLY SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND ALSO

11:40:45AM GIVE ADVICE.

11:40:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION, I DON'T WANT

11:40:48AM PEOPLE TO FEEL THAT THIS COUNCIL IS NOT ACTIVELY ENGAGED

11:40:52AM WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

11:40:53AM >>LEROY MOORE: THE COUNCIL CERTAINLY IS AS WELL AS THE CITY

11:40:56AM OF TAMPA VERY INVOLVED.

11:40:57AM THE MAYOR HAS ATTENDED ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND HER STAFF,

11:41:01AM SENATOR CRUZ ATTENDED SEVERAL OF THE MEETINGS.




11:41:05AM CONGRESSWOMAN KATHY CASTOR.

11:41:06AM STAFF ATTENDED PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR ARCHAEOLOGICAL

11:41:11AM MEETINGS.

11:41:11AM WE'RE NOT ALONE AT ALL.

11:41:13AM WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYBODY'S INVOLVEMENT.

11:41:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: AFTER THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL HAVE COUNCILMAN

11:41:18AM MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND THEN FURTHER

11:41:20AM COMMENTS.

11:41:21AM GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:41:21AM >>LEROY MOORE: I WANT TO INTRODUCE ERIC PRENDERGAST AS WELL

11:41:26AM AS PAUL JONES WITH CARDNO.

11:41:28AM THEY ARE OUR ARCHAEOLOGICAL TEAM.

11:41:30AM THEY PARTNERED WITH -- USF.

11:41:35AM THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN CONFIRMING THIS DISCOVERY

11:41:37AM FOR US, CREATING THE WORK PLAN AND HELPING US WITH THE

11:41:41AM DECISIONS THAT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE.

11:41:43AM I WANT THEM TO COME UP AND LEAD YOU THROUGH A MORE FORMAL

11:41:46AM PRESENTATION.

11:41:51AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

11:41:52AM I'M PAUL JONES WITH CARDNO AND ERIC PRENDERGAST.

11:42:00AM WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU TODAY WITH PARTS OF

11:42:02AM WHAT WE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY BOARD, THE THA BOARD OVER

11:42:06AM THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

11:42:07AM THIS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU I THINK A GOOD OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S

11:42:11AM BEEN HAPPENING, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS




11:42:15AM FOR YOU AS WELL.

11:42:16AM JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND, I'M A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE

11:42:19AM FLORIDA ARCHAEOLOGICAL COUNCIL AND REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL

11:42:24AM ARCHAEOLOGIST.

11:42:25AM I'M ALSO THE PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE WITH CARDNO FOR THIS

11:42:30AM PROJECT.

11:42:30AM ERIC IS THE PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR.

11:42:33AM MEANS HE IS THE ON-SITE DIRECTOR AND HE WILL BE WRITING THE

11:42:36AM REPORT AND HE WILL BE IN CHARGE OF ALL THE TECHNICAL WORK

11:42:41AM AND COMPREHENSIVE WORK THAT GOES ON IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

11:42:43AM ERIC PREPARED A SLIDE SHOW FOR US TODAY.

11:42:45AM WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, IF WE CAN, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH

11:42:47AM THE COMMITTEE.

11:42:48AM THEN WE'D LIKE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.

11:42:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST SO THAT WE KNOW, NO RUSH, BUT ROUGHLY HOW

11:42:54AM LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION?

11:42:55AM >> TEN SLIDES.

11:42:56AM I CAN ZIP THROUGH PRETTY QUICK.

11:43:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

11:43:02AM GO AHEAD.

11:43:06AM >> I GAVE SOMEONE A THUMB DRIVE AT THE BEGINNING.

11:43:13AM FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHERE ZION IS, THAT RED POLYGON

11:43:20AM IS THE SHAPE OF THE CEMETERY.

11:43:22AM WE KNOW IT IS THAT SHAPE BECAUSE THIS IS THE 1901 PLAT THAT

11:43:26AM WAS FILED.




11:43:27AM IT IS ONE OF THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERIES IN TAMPA.

11:43:31AM THERE ARE SEVERAL VERY EARLY ONES.

11:43:34AM AND AS FRED HEARNS TOLD OUR COMMITTEE, THE FIRST AFRICAN

11:43:37AM AMERICAN INTERMENTS WERE ACTUALLY NOT HERE.

11:43:40AM THEY WERE AT OAK LAWN.

11:43:42AM IN ANY CASE, THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY MUCH ROBLES

11:43:48AM POND THAT LIVES IN THE AREA AND GAVE THEM A PLACE OF BURIAL

11:43:50AM DURING THE SEGREGATION ERA.

11:43:52AM WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHO WAS

11:43:58AM INTERRED.

11:43:59AM WE HAVE 763 DEATH CERTIFICATES FROM THOSE WHO WERE INTERRED

11:44:02AM AT ZION.

11:44:04AM UNFORTUNATELY, BETWEEN 1900 AND 1910, THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE

11:44:09AM DEATH CERTIFICATES.

11:44:09AM BUT YOU'LL SEE FROM THE GRAPH FROM 1910 ON, WE'RE EVEN ABLE

11:44:13AM TO TALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE DYING EACH YEAR.

11:44:16AM OUR DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION GOES DEEPER THAN THIS.

11:44:18AM I'M JUST SKIMMING THROUGH.

11:44:20AM YOU'LL NOTICE IN 1918, 1919, THAT'S WHEN MEMORIAL CEMETERY

11:44:23AM OPENS UP.

11:44:24AM PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER BEING BURIED AT ZION.

11:44:27AM BUT DURING THIS PERIOD, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN UP TO 1,000

11:44:31AM PEOPLE BURIED THERE.

11:44:32AM LIKE I SAID, WE KNOW FOR SURE 763.

11:44:37AM IN ORDER TO FIND THESE GRAVES, WE DID A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE




11:44:46AM APPLICATION OF GROUND-PENETRATING RADAR.

11:44:50AM EVERYWHERE THAT'S IN YELLOW ON THE MAP IS WHERE WE TARGETED

11:44:53AM OUR GROUND-PENETRATING RADAR MACHINES.

11:44:56AM EXAMPLE OF TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE.

11:45:02AM THESE ARE BOTH RADAR MACHINES.

11:45:04AM BUT BY USING TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO

11:45:07AM CONFIRM OUR RESULTS.

11:45:09AM WE WANTED TO BE VERY SURE.

11:45:11AM THIS IS WHAT THOSE RESULTS LOOK LIKE IN A SAMPLE AREA OF THE

11:45:16AM CEMETERY.

11:45:17AM THOSE RED POLYGONS SHOW REFLECTIONS FROM BENEATH THE GROUND

11:45:22AM FROM THE DEPTH THAT A COFFIN WOULD BE EXPECTED TO LIE,

11:45:25AM ORIENTED EAST-WEST, THE CORRECT SIZE FOR A COFFIN.

11:45:30AM THESE ARE ALL OVER THE AREAS THAT WE TESTED WITHIN THE TAMPA

11:45:33AM HOUSING AUTHORITY SECTION ROBLES PARK VILLAGE THAT OVERLIES

11:45:36AM THE FORMER LOCATION OF ZION.

11:45:39AM HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW GROUND PENETRATING RADAR WORKS.

11:45:43AM THAT IS A SLICE ON THE RIGHT SHOWING REFLECTIONS BOUNCING UP

11:45:50AM FROM UNDERGROUND AND BEING RECEIVED BY AN ANTENNA.

11:45:52AM EACH OF THE PARABOLIC SHAPES IS AN OBJECT.

11:45:55AM THOSE CORRESPOND ON THE LEFT WITH THE RED LINE SHOWING HOW

11:46:00AM THE ANOMALIES CAN BE LOOKED AT AND HOW IT CAN SHOW US WHERE

11:46:06AM BURIED OBJECTS ARE WITHOUT DISTURBING THE GROUND.

11:46:09AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

11:46:10AM THAT'S 127 BURIED COFFINS.




11:46:13AM AS MR. MOORE SAID, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION, THOSE

11:46:17AM GRAY POLYGONS, THOSE ARE REPRESENTING THE BUILDINGS FROM

11:46:20AM WHICH PEOPLE ARE BEING MOVED IN A VOLUNTARY PROCESS RIGHT

11:46:23AM NOW.

11:46:24AM ONCE THAT CAN BE COMPLETED, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH

11:46:27AM THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS TO CREATE A

11:46:30AM MEMORIAL AND REMEMORIALIZE THIS SPACE WITH HOPEFULLY

11:46:34AM PARTNERSHIP FROM THE CITY AND HELP FROM THE STATE THROUGH A

11:46:38AM STATE SENATE BILL 2020 THAT'S GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND GO

11:46:41AM TO COMMITTEE ON MONDAY, WHICH WOULD MAYBE MOVE THE BALL

11:46:46AM FORWARD ON THESE.

11:46:47AM THIS IS WHAT WE'VE EXPANDED IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS.

11:46:49AM THIS ORANGE AREA IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN OUT DOING MORE OF.

11:46:52AM ACTUALLY, WE HAVE FOUND NO MORE GRAVES.

11:46:54AM IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE THE EDGES OF THE CEMETERY AT THIS

11:46:57AM POINT.

11:46:57AM MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE GOING TO VERIFY OUR FINDS BY ACTUALLY

11:47:03AM IN THE GROUND, LOOKING FOR SOIL SIGNATURES THAT CONFIRM

11:47:08AM ABSOLUTELY THAT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ARE UNDISTURBED

11:47:11AM BURIED COFFINS, SO THAT IN THE FUTURE THESE RESULTS CAN

11:47:14AM NEVER BE CONTROVERTED OR CHALLENGED.

11:47:20AM LIKE I SAID, THEN WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PARTNERSHIP

11:47:23AM WITH OTHER GROUPS, WITH OUR COMMITTEE, AND OUR CURRENT TEAM

11:47:27AM WORKED TO BUILD A MEMORIAL.

11:47:29AM I WANTED TO ALSO UNDERSCORE THAT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY




11:47:34AM CEMETERY THAT IS LOST LIKE THIS IN TAMPA.

11:47:37AM AS WE KNOW FROM THE NEWSPAPERS, LATELY, THIS IS HAPPENING

11:47:40AM ALL OVER THE PLACE.

11:47:41AM ON THIS MAP, I HAVE COLLEGE HILL.

11:47:43AM I HAVE RIDGEWOOD UP THERE AT KING HIGH SCHOOL.

11:47:47AM ZION CEMETERY, OF COURSE, AND DOWN IN THE VERY SOUTH AT

11:47:51AM MacDILL, THAT WOULD BE THE PORT TAMPA CEMETERY.

11:47:54AM THESE ARE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATIONS OF VIOLENT, RACIST PAST

11:48:00AM THAT ARE ON THE LANDSCAPE OF OUR CITY.

11:48:02AM THESE OBLITERATED CEREMONIES ARE NOT THE RESULT OF A SINGLE

11:48:10AM PAST EVENT THAT WE CAN LOOK BACK AND BLAME SOMEONE OR

11:48:12AM SOMETHING FOR.

11:48:13AM IT TAKES DECADES OF WILLFUL NEGLECT AND COLLECTIVE

11:48:19AM COMPLACENCY ON THE PART OF ALL OF US FOR THINGS LIKE THIS TO

11:48:22AM HAPPEN.

11:48:22AM IF WE WANT TO SEE A CEMETERY BEING LOST IN REAL-TIME, LOOK

11:48:26AM AT MEMORIAL PARK ON 22nd STREET.

11:48:28AM THE GRASS IS GROWING AND SOON WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ZION UNLESS

11:48:31AM SOMEONE STEPS FORWARD AND TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

11:48:35AM WE ARE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS COME TOGETHER

11:48:38AM AND HELPED SO FAR WITH THE PROJECT AND REALLY GRATEFUL TO

11:48:42AM SERVE ON IT.

11:48:43AM AND THE LAST SLIDE DIDN'T WORK, BUT IT WAS A LIST OF ALL THE

11:48:47AM 763 NAMES THAT WE KNOW.

11:48:51AM THERE THEY ARE.




11:48:52AM THAT'S THE END OF IT.

11:48:53AM THANK YOU.

11:49:00AM >> LET ME ADD A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO ERIC'S COMMENTS.

11:49:05AM YOU NOTICED HE SHOWED YOU THE TWO DIFFERENT MACHINES AND

11:49:08AM MENTIONED THE IMPORTANCE OF DUPLICATING OUR RESULTS.

11:49:11AM WHEN WE DESIGNED OUR WORK PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE FELT

11:49:15AM WAS MOST IMPORTANT WAS THAT THE RESULTS WERE NOT JUST OUR

11:49:18AM RESULTS, BUT THAT WE WOULD HAVE INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION OF

11:49:22AM EVERYTHING WE DID.

11:49:23AM CARDNO OWNS A VERY HIGH-TECH PIECE OF GROUND-PENETRATING

11:49:27AM RADAR.

11:49:28AM IT'S CALLED A STREAM C AND IT'S GOT 32 ANTENNAS THAT RECORD

11:49:32AM THINGS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

11:49:33AM AND THREE-DIMENSIONAL SLICES, ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

11:49:36AM VERY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF MACHINERY, GENERALLY USED AND

11:49:40AM DESIGNED FOR FINDING UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

11:49:45AM BUT IT'S AN EXCELLENT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR FINDING

11:49:48AM CEMETERIES.

11:49:48AM THE OTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WAS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF

11:49:51AM SOUTH FLORIDA.

11:49:53AM THAT'S THEIR GROUND-PENETRATING RADAR SYSTEM.

11:49:56AM IT'S ONE OF THE OLDER SYSTEMS, BUT IT'S NOT A BAD SYSTEM.

11:50:00AM IT'S ONE OF THE MORE STANDARD PIECES OF TECHNOLOGY THAT'S

11:50:04AM BEEN IN USE FOR MANY YEARS, AND IT'S APPROVED AND UNDERSTOOD

11:50:09AM BY FOLKS AT THE STATE DIVISION OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES.




11:50:13AM THERE ARE APPROVALS FOR IT.

11:50:14AM SO WE WANTED TO USE BOTH OF THOSE AND OVERLAY THE RESULTS ON

11:50:20AM TOP OF EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BOTH FINDING THE

11:50:25AM SAME THING IN THE SAME PLACE.

11:50:27AM THAT WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US.

11:50:29AM ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS YOU

11:50:35AM GUYS MENTIONED THAT YOU APPRECIATED LEROY BEING PROACTIVE.

11:50:40AM HE REALLY HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE MODEL OF WHAT SHOULD GO ON

11:50:45AM WHEN WE FIND THESE SORT OF CEMETERIES AND THESE SORT OF LOST

11:50:51AM OR PURPOSEFULLY LOST THINGS.

11:50:53AM TAKING AN EARLY PROACTIVE APPROACH.

11:50:56AM GETTING THE DESCENDANT COMMUNITIES INVOLVED VERY EARLY IN

11:51:00AM THE PROCESS MEANS THAT EVERYBODY VIEWS THIS IN A MUCH MORE

11:51:05AM POSITIVE LIGHT, AND THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE

11:51:09AM CITY, EVERYBODY LOOKS MUCH BETTER WHEN THEY PROACTIVELY

11:51:14AM APPROACH THESE SORT OF THINGS.

11:51:16AM AND IT SHOWS IN THE NEWSPAPER WHEN THE RESPONSES TO THIS

11:51:22AM ARE, YES, WE LOOKED AT THIS EARLY.

11:51:25AM YES, WE IMMEDIATELY FOUND THIS.

11:51:26AM YES, WE RELOCATED PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY.

11:51:28AM THAT SORT OF THING REALLY MADE THIS A VERY POSITIVE EVENT.

11:51:32AM OF THE MANY, MANY CEMETERY RELOCATIONS I'VE WORKED ON.

11:51:37AM JUST MY PERSONAL NOTE THERE AT THE END.

11:51:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

11:51:41AM BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, MS. ZELMAN, I KNOW




11:51:47AM THAT MEMORIAL CEMETERY WAS MENTIONED.

11:51:50AM DO YOU HAVE AN INSTRUCTION FOR US ON THAT TO NOT DISCUSS

11:51:53AM THAT DUE TO LITIGATION?

11:51:55AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: FIRST TO BE CLEAR, MEMORIAL CEMETERY IS NOT

11:51:58AM CITY OWNED.

11:51:58AM THE CITY, HOWEVER, IS INVOLVED IN LITIGATION PRESENTLY WITH

11:52:02AM I BELIEVE IT'S A TRUST OR AN ESTATE THAT HAS THE PROPERTY

11:52:08AM RIGHTS THERE.

11:52:09AM GIVEN THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO STEER CLEAR OF TALKING ABOUT IT

11:52:15AM TOO MUCH OR SAYING ANYTHING THAT COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT ON

11:52:18AM THAT LITIGATION.

11:52:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

11:52:19AM I SAY THAT.

11:52:19AM I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES AND I WERE OUT THERE FOR A WORK DAY

11:52:22AM ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

11:52:24AM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

11:52:26AM I'LL SPEAK AT THE END.

11:52:27AM BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

11:52:29AM YOU ALL REALLY HAD A SENSE OF URGENCY.

11:52:34AM I USE THIS TERM IN A GOOD WAY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

11:52:37AM I MEAN THAT IN A GOOD WAY.

11:52:38AM COUNCIL MEMBER.

11:52:40AM I'M SORRY, MS. JANEL.

11:52:42AM I DIDN'T SEE YOU.

11:52:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.




11:52:46AM JANELLE McGREGOR, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP MANAGER FOR THE

11:52:48AM CITY OF TAMPA.

11:52:50AM I STAND BEFORE YOU JUST TO ENSURE YOU THAT MAYOR CASTOR IS

11:52:54AM VERY IN TUNE WITH WHAT'S TAKING PLACE HERE AT ZION.

11:52:58AM BACK ON SEPTEMBER 28, SHE ATTENDED A MEMORIAL SERVICE TO PAY

11:53:03AM RESPECTS TO THOSE WHO LAY AT REST THERE AT ZION, AS WELL, AS

11:53:09AM LEROY MENTIONED, SHE ATTENDED THE LAST ARCHAEOLOGICAL TASK

11:53:12AM FORCE MEETING.

11:53:12AM THIS IS IN ADDITION TO MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF ROBLES PARK

11:53:18AM RESIDENT COUNCIL ASSOCIATION AS WELL.

11:53:19AM SO THE MAYOR IS A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR COMING TOGETHER WITH

11:53:25AM ALL THOSE INVOLVED TO FIND A RESPECTFUL AND HONEST

11:53:29AM RESOLUTION FOR WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.

11:53:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

11:53:34AM WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCILMAN

11:53:36AM DINGFELDER.

11:53:37AM THEN WE'LL GO ON DOWN THE LINE FOR COMMENTS.

11:53:40AM BUT IF I MAY, I NEED A MOTION FOR EXTRA 30 MINUTES.

11:53:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO 12:30.

11:53:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:53:48AM SECOND BY GUDES.

11:53:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:53:51AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:53:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST, THANK YOU, MR. MOORE.

11:53:55AM LAST MONTH, YOU GAVE ME A TOUR OF ROBLES PARK AND SHOWED ME




11:54:01AM SPECIFICALLY WHERE SOME OF THE GRAVES WERE LOCATED IN THAT

11:54:03AM AREA.

11:54:04AM I MET WITH SOME RESIDENTS.

11:54:05AM I WENT INTO SOME OF THE UNITS.

11:54:07AM SOME WERE MOVING OUT.

11:54:09AM I DON'T WANT TO SAY THEY WERE HAPPY BUT THEY WERE BEING

11:54:12AM TAKEN CARE OF IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER.

11:54:15AM I APPRECIATE PAUL GUZZO WITH THE TIMES WORK IN BRINGING THIS

11:54:19AM FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE STORY.

11:54:21AM FROM THE ERA OF JIM CROW WHERE BLACKS WERE TREATED IN SUCH A

11:54:27AM DESPICABLE MANNER.

11:54:28AM THIS IS BEYOND THE PALE, BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE MOVING SWIFTLY

11:54:34AM AND EVERYBODY IS WORKING TOGETHER TO FIND A GOOD SOLUTION

11:54:37AM FOR THIS AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT, NOW THAT IT WILL BE DEEMED

11:54:40AM HISTORICAL, AS IT SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.

11:54:42AM AND WE CAN RESPECT THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED AWAY.

11:54:45AM AFTER THE TOUR, I SPOKE WITH MY MOTHER AND SHE TOLD ME THAT

11:54:50AM IN 1963 OR SO, HER AND MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED AT ROBLES PARK

11:54:53AM AFTER THEY CAME FROM CUBA AND MOVED TO TAMPA BEFORE GOING

11:54:55AM OUT TO 48th STREET AND EAST TAMPA AND BUYING THEIR FIRST

11:54:58AM HOME.

11:54:59AM YOU KNOW, SHE HAS MEMORIES AS A CHILD THERE.

11:55:02AM SHE WAS JUST -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS.

11:55:06AM BUT KNOWING THAT THEY COULD HAVE BEEN STAYING ABOVE GRAVES.

11:55:14AM AT LEAST WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.




11:55:15AM AND HOPEFULLY, THIS, OF COURSE, HAS EXPANDED TO MORE

11:55:20AM CEREMONIES THAT HAVE BEEN LOST AND NOW FOUND.

11:55:22AM BUT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND CORRECTING THE WRONGS OF

11:55:25AM HISTORY.

11:55:25AM I'M GLAD EVERYBODY IS IN UNISON AND WORKING TOGETHER AND

11:55:31AM FINDING A SOLUTION.

11:55:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:55:32AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:55:33AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MANISCALCO, I KNOW I HAVE COMMON

11:55:37AM SENTIMENTS IN ADDITION TO MR. GUZZO WHO HAS DONE A GOOD JOB

11:55:42AM OF REPORTING ON THE ISSUE, I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO A

11:55:45AM GENTLEMAN I'VE KNOWN A LONG TIME, RAY REED, BECAUSE HE'S

11:55:50AM JUST ON A PERSONAL LEVEL HAS DONE A HUGE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH

11:55:54AM AND POINTED MR. GUZZO AND THE COMMUNITY TO OTHER AREAS,

11:55:58AM INCLUDING ZION, THAT ARE SUSPECTED OF BEING IGNORED AND

11:56:03AM ABUSED.

11:56:05AM ONE THING THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE IN COMMON, THE SEVEN OF

11:56:09AM US, IS LOVE OF HISTORY.

11:56:13AM RECENTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHY EXACTLY, BUT I WAS AT THE LIBRARY

11:56:18AM AND I PICKED UP A BOOK CALLED "SLAVERY IN FLORIDA."

11:56:21AM IT'S A GREAT BOOK WRITTEN BY FAMU PROFESSOR, BUT I HAD NO

11:56:30AM IDEA.

11:56:30AM I MEAN, I WAS BORN HERE IN '56.

11:56:33AM I ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT SLAVERY AS LIKE, OH, YOU ALABAMA

11:56:36AM PEOPLE.




11:56:36AM YOU GEORGIA PEOPLE.

11:56:39AM YOU'RE BAD.

11:56:40AM THEN READING THIS BOOK ABOUT SLAVERY IN FLORIDA, IT'S VERY

11:56:43AM REAL.

11:56:43AM I MEAN, IT WAS MOSTLY A LOT OF IT NORTH OF US BECAUSE THAT'S

11:56:48AM WHERE THE -- THAT'S WHERE IT WAS INHABITED FROM JACKSONVILLE

11:56:51AM ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO PENSACOLA, BUT THERE WAS SOME EVEN IN

11:56:55AM THE BAY AREA AS WELL AND TAMPA AND VERY EARLY TAMPA.

11:57:02AM BUT SLAVERY WAS HERE.

11:57:05AM AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, WHAT DID THAT LEAD TO?

11:57:11AM AFTER SLAVERY, TAMPA BECAME VERY POPULATED WITH AFRICAN

11:57:14AM AMERICAN POPULATION.

11:57:14AM AND THEN JIM CROW CAME IN IN A BIG WAY WITH LYNCHINGS, AND

11:57:21AM FLORIDA WAS LEADING THE SOUTH WITH LYNCHINGS I THINK IN THE

11:57:25AM EARLY PART OF THE 1900s, WHICH IS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT.

11:57:28AM WE HAD REALLY KIND OF REALLY BAD AREAS LIKE THE SCRUB AND

11:57:34AM POSSIBLY, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ROBLES POND, WHERE AFRICAN

11:57:37AM AMERICANS WERE TREATED WRONGLY.

11:57:41AM THEIR CONDITIONS WERE HORRIFIC.

11:57:43AM EVEN WHEN THEY HAD THE DIGNITY AND MEANS TO BURY THEIR

11:57:49AM FAMILY MEMBERS, WHAT HAPPENED 20, 30 YEARS LATER, IT JUST

11:57:52AM GETS PAVED OVER.

11:57:54AM IT'S SO WRONG AND SAD.

11:57:55AM LIKE SO MUCH OF HISTORY, WE CAN'T UNDUE THE HISTORY.

11:58:03AM A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO FORGET ABOUT HISTORY.




11:58:06AM THOSE SORT OF TRAGIC EVENTS, BUT WE CAN'T.

11:58:10AM IT'S OUR JOB TO NEVER FORGET.

11:58:13AM AND I'M SO THRILLED THAT MR. MOORE AND HIS TEAM, THE HOUSING

11:58:18AM AUTHORITY AND ALL HIS OTHER PARTNERS ARE GOING TO WORK ON

11:58:21AM CREATING A PARK.

11:58:22AM AND THE CITY WILL BE A GOOD PARTNER IN THAT WITH DENNIS AND

11:58:25AM THE REST OF US.

11:58:26AM BUT NOT ONLY CAN WE SAY WE'LL NEVER FORGET, BUT I THINK THAT

11:58:32AM WE CAN ALL UNITE AND SAY NEVER AGAIN.

11:58:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

11:58:38AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:58:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I TALK ABOUT EXPERIENCE.

11:58:44AM A PERSON'S FAMILY WHO DEALS WITH THE DEAD EVERY WEEK.

11:58:51AM THE DEAD DO SPEAK.

11:58:53AM THEY DO TALK.

11:58:54AM I'VE SAID THIS FROM DAY ONE WHEN THAT OCCURRED AND I WENT

11:58:58AM OUT THERE AND I SAID THE DEAD IS TALKING.

11:59:00AM IT'S TIME.

11:59:02AM HISTORY REVOLVES AND IT CHANGES.

11:59:06AM OUR CITY IS CHANGING.

11:59:07AM OUR MIND-SETS HAVE TO CHANGE.

11:59:09AM THAT'S WHY I ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS, TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC

11:59:16AM KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

11:59:17AM WHEN I ASK COUNCIL TO GO OUT TO ROBLES, WE GO, BUT WE HAVE

11:59:27AM LEGAL ISSUES TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO GET THERE AND THE




11:59:30AM SUNSHINE LAW.

11:59:30AM MY COLLEAGUES INDIVIDUALLY CONTACTED MR. MOORE AND GOING OUT

11:59:34AM THERE BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE WAS SAYING WHERE WAS COUNCIL?

11:59:36AM I HAD TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW COUNCIL IS SERIOUS ABOUT

11:59:40AM THIS ISSUE.

11:59:41AM THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PROPERTY TO

11:59:44AM MR. MOORE SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW AND WE'RE TRANSPARENT TO WHAT

11:59:47AM WE'RE DOING.

11:59:50AM I'M GLAD MS. McGREGOR WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE

11:59:56AM MAYOR'S OFFICE IS DOING, THAT WE'RE ALL TOGETHER ON THIS

11:59:57AM THING MAKING SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION WITH A

11:59:59AM FINAL PRODUCT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ON, WHO SUFFERED.

12:00:02PM FOR ME, IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT

12:00:04PM THINGS, THERE'S TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE

12:00:06PM THE LAST ONE WE MAY FIND.

12:00:08PM BUT WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED AND READY FOR WHEN IT DOES

12:00:13PM HAPPEN, THAT OUR BOOTS ARE ALREADY ON AND WE KNOW WHAT TO DO

12:00:17PM ALREADY AND WE GET IT DONE AND WE GET IT DONE VERY QUICKLY

12:00:19PM SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW THAT WE ARE A COMPASSIONATE CITY COUNCIL

12:00:22PM AND COUNTY COMMISSION AND SCHOOL BOARD.

12:00:25PM I MUST SAY MS. SHAMBURGER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, SHE GOT RIGHT

12:00:28PM ON THAT SITUATION, KING HIGH SCHOOL, YOU HAVE TO GIVE HER

12:00:31PM PROPS, AND THEY ARE ON IT.

12:00:32PM I ATTENDED THAT MEETING, I TELL YOU, IT RAN SMOOTH AND THEY

12:00:36PM ARE MOVING.




12:00:37PM I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT UNDERSTAND THE

12:00:42PM SIGNIFICANCE OF THE DEAD AND UNDERSTAND -- PEOPLE DON'T

12:00:46PM BELIEVE IN SUPERSTITION SOMETIMES, BUT MOST BLACK PEOPLE,

12:00:51PM THEY BELIEVE IN THE SPIRITUAL DYNAMICS.

12:00:53PM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DEAD, IT IS VERY SYMBOLIC THING.

12:00:56PM I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED AND MAKE SURE THAT

12:00:59PM WE'RE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

12:01:00PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

12:01:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:01:03PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, ANYTHING, SIR?

12:01:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.

12:01:06PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MEN FROM CARDNO, ALSO PAUL GUZZO

12:01:11PM AND TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR MOVING QUICKLY AND SWIFTLY

12:01:15PM ON THIS.

12:01:15PM THIS HAS TO BE TODAY FORWARD.

12:01:20PM WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OUR LOCAL CEMETERIES.

12:01:23PM THERE IS A MAN IN WEST TAMPA WHO HAS TAKEN A CEMETERY THERE

12:01:28PM AND IS BUYING BACK PARCELS SO THAT HE CAN MAKE THAT HISTORIC

12:01:32PM DESIGNATION.

12:01:33PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MAYOR, COUNCIL, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

12:01:37PM -- HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD, STATE OF FLORIDA, ALL

12:01:40PM JOIN TOGETHER AND LOOK AT NEGLECTED, AS THIS GENTLEMAN

12:01:47PM MENTIONED EARLIER, NEGLECTED CEMETERIES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN

12:01:51PM DO TO MAKE THEM HISTORIC SO THIS TYPE OF THING DOESN'T

12:01:53PM HAPPEN.




12:01:54PM BUT WE HAVE TO START TODAY.

12:01:55PM I THANK EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE

12:01:58PM FOREFRONT.

12:01:58PM AND WE HAVE TO START LOOKING TO THE FUTURE OF OUR

12:02:03PM CEMETERIES.

12:02:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:02:04PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:02:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THANK MR. MOORE AND ALL OF THE

12:02:08PM STAFF OF THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.

12:02:10PM YOU DIDN'T BACK UP.

12:02:10PM YOU WENT FORWARD.

12:02:12PM AS SOON AS YOU WERE NOTIFIED, YOU STARTED THE PROCESS.

12:02:14PM WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

12:02:16PM AND THE PRODUCT THAT YOU TURNED OUT, THE IDENTIFICATION,

12:02:19PM WITH YOURSELF AND CARDNO AND THE REST OF YOU ARE TO BE

12:02:22PM COMMENDED.

12:02:22PM IT IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO.

12:02:25PM IN FACT, YOU START DYING WHEN YOU ARE BORN.

12:02:27PM YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS.

12:02:29PM IT IS HARD TO SAY THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S A REALITY.

12:02:32PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S COMING UP, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ONE

12:02:36PM OF THE PROPERTIES YOU MENTIONED, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SAY IT,

12:02:38PM BUT I WILL, KING HIGH SCHOOL MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO HAVE

12:02:41PM EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN WHAT YOU FOUND HERE.

12:02:44PM THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD ON THE STREET.




12:02:45PM I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SURE OR NOT.

12:02:47PM BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

12:02:50PM FOR VARIOUS REASONS ALL OF US CAN'T BE IN THE SAME ROOM AT

12:02:53PM THE SAME TIME.

12:02:54PM WE WOULD VIOLATE THE STATUTE THAT WE CREATED TO BE WHO WE

12:02:58PM ARE.

12:02:59PM APPRECIATE IT.

12:02:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:03:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS A TERRIBLE CHAPTER IN OUR CITY'S

12:03:04PM HISTORY.

12:03:05PM THANK YOU FOR TAKING IT SERIOUSLY AND BEING PROACTIVE AND

12:03:10PM TRYING TO RIGHT A WRONG.

12:03:11PM AND FINALLY GIVE THESE FOLKS THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE.

12:03:15PM THANK YOU.

12:03:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:03:17PM I MEANT WHAT I SAID THAT WHEN YOU ALL SPOKE, THE TERM

12:03:22PM RIGHTEOUSNESS IS SOMETIMES NEGATIVE, SOMETIMES POSITIVE.

12:03:25PM THE WAY YOU ALL SPOKE, I COULD SENSE A REAL PASSION.

12:03:29PM ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS I HAVE A REAL PASSION FOR UNITED

12:03:32PM STATES HISTORY.

12:03:33PM EVERY YEAR, MY SON AND I, WE VISIT ARLINGTON CEMETERY.

12:03:36PM WE GO TO VARIOUS PLACES.

12:03:38PM ONE OF THE PLACES WE GO IS SECTION 27 WHICH HAS SLAVES.

12:03:41PM A BUNCH OF UNMARKED GRAVES, NO NAMES.

12:03:44PM MANY OF THEM JUST SAY "CITIZEN."




12:03:46PM THIS SUMMER, IT'S FUNNY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WAS TALKING

12:03:50PM ABOUT OUR HISTORY IN FLORIDA HERE IN TAMPA AND THERE'S, FOR

12:03:54PM FOLKS WHO WERE LOOKING FOR HISTORY AND JUSTICE, YOU CAN LOOK

12:03:59PM RIGHT HERE.

12:03:59PM YOU CAN LOOK IN FLORIDA.

12:04:00PM YOU CAN LOOK IN TAMPA, AND THAT'S A SAD FACT.

12:04:03PM THIS SUMMER, I TOOK A COUPLE OF TRIPS.

12:04:05PM I WENT TO MARIANNA, FLORIDA, TO SEE THE AREA WHERE CLAUDE

12:04:11PM NEAL WAS LYNCHED.

12:04:12PM MY SON AND I TOOK A TRIP.

12:04:15PM I TAKE HIM ON A LOT OF SERIOUS TRIPS.

12:04:17PM WE WENT TO MISSISSIPPI.

12:04:18PM WE WENT TO RULEVILLE TO SEE FANNIE LOU HAMER.

12:04:21PM MONEY, MISSISSIPPI, FOR EMMETT TILL.

12:04:21PM JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, FOR MEDGAR EVERS.

12:04:24PM WE WENT DOWN THE MISSISSIPPI DELTA.

12:04:26PM WE SAW THE OLD PARCHMAN PRISON.

12:04:30PM A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT, WE WENT TO ALABAMA, MONTGOMERY, FOR

12:04:32PM THE EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE AND SELMA.

12:04:35PM BUT THERE ARE TONS OF THAT HERE.

12:04:39PM LIKE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, GROWING UP IN TEMPLE

12:04:42PM TERRACE IN A HISPANIC FAMILY, GROWING UP BEFORE I WAS 10,

12:04:46PM 11, 12, I NEVER EVEN KNEW FLORIDA WAS PART OF THE

12:04:50PM CONFEDERACY UP UNTIL I WAS NINE, TEN YEARS OLD.

12:04:55PM BECAUSE I JUST THOUGHT WE ARE THE TAMPA AREA.




12:04:57PM NOSOTROS SOMOS TAMPA.

12:04:57PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

12:04:57PM IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, THE SOUTH.

12:05:00PM BUT BOY, OH, BOY, WE WERE RIGHT IN THE THICK OF IT.

12:05:03PM I'LL TELL YOU ALL WHAT, TO SEE JUST HOW IN THE THICK OF IT

12:05:06PM WE WERE, LOOK AT 1867 AND WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WROTE IN OUR

12:05:10PM CONSTITUTION VOTING RESTRICTIONS THAT VOTERS JUST GOT RID OF

12:05:13PM LAST YEAR THROUGH AMENDMENT FOUR, WHEN OUR STATE WAS ONE OF

12:05:16PM THE STATES THAT REFUSED TO SUPPORT THE 13th, THE 14th

12:05:20PM AND THE 15th AMENDMENTS, AND CONGRESS SAID, LOOK, YOU ALL

12:05:24PM WANT TO GET BACK IN THE UNION, YOU GUYS GOT TO LET FOLKS

12:05:27PM VOTE.

12:05:27PM FLORIDA SAID, SURE, WE'LL LET FOLKS VOTE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO

12:05:30PM PUT THINGS IN THERE LIKE POLL TAXES, LITERACY TESTS, AND

12:05:34PM FELONY RESTRICTIONS, SOMETHING WE JUST GOT RID OF,

12:05:37PM ALLEGEDLY, A YEAR AGO.

12:05:40PM THAT'S OUR HISTORY.

12:05:41PM WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR HISTORY.

12:05:43PM WE HAVE TO FACE UP TO OUR HISTORY.

12:05:44PM WE GOT TO KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY, AND WE CAN'T BE AFRAID

12:05:48PM TO LOOK AT IT AND TO LOOK AT THE UGLY THINGS.

12:05:50PM I DO MEAN UGLY.

12:05:51PM BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THESE NAMES HERE, THAT'S UGLY.

12:05:54PM ESO ES FEO.

12:05:54PM THAT'S UGLY.




12:05:54PM I JUST SAID THAT'S UGLY IN SPANISH.

12:05:57PM BECAUSE WHEN I GET PASSIONATE, SOMETIMES I SPEAK SPANISH,

12:06:00PM BUT THAT'S UGLY.

12:06:01PM THAT'S ABOUT AS UGLY AS YOU GET.

12:06:03PM I THINK WE'RE ALL HERE UNITED TO HONOR THESE FOLKS AND TO

12:06:07PM HONOR THEM AND TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE LEARN ALL

12:06:10PM OF OUR HISTORY SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE CAME FROM, WE KNOW

12:06:14PM HOW WE GOT HERE.

12:06:15PM WE KNOW THE MANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR COUNTRY, AND GOD

12:06:17PM KNOWS THERE ARE A TON OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR COUNTRY.

12:06:19PM MY PARENTS WERE REFUGEES.

12:06:20PM WE CAME HERE.

12:06:21PM A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR COUNTRY, BUT THERE ARE A LOT

12:06:23PM OF BAD THINGS ABOUT OUR COUNTRY.

12:06:25PM LIKE I THINK IT WAS PRESIDENT CLINTON THAT SAID THIS, WHICH

12:06:28PM IS THE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT ABOUT AMERICA CAN HEAL THE

12:06:31PM THINGS THAT ARE WRONG ABOUT AMERICA.

12:06:33PM I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT.

12:06:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:06:36PM OKAY.

12:06:38PM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 55, IT WOULD APPEAR.

12:07:21PM >> GREGORY HART, MANAGER, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY

12:07:23PM PROGRAM.

12:07:24PM I'M HERE ON ITEM 55.

12:07:26PM TO ADDRESS THE REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE REGARDING SMALL




12:07:30PM BUSINESS PARTICIPATION ON THE SAN CARLOS PUMP STATION REHAB

12:07:36PM PROJECT.

12:07:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.

12:07:37PM I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.

12:07:40PM FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE THIS AND THEN SECOND READINGS,

12:07:43PM WHICH WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH.

12:07:46PM FOR PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC HERE FOR SECOND READINGS TODAY,

12:07:49PM DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO SECOND READINGS RIGHT NOW?

12:07:56PM WE'LL DO TWO MINUTES.

12:08:03PM 55, 56 -- 56, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THAT WILL TAKE?

12:08:08PM THE PUBLIC, YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

12:08:16PM SECOND READINGS BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH.

12:08:18PM WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:30.

12:08:21PM AND WE CAN DO IT IF I STOP TALKING.

12:08:25PM >> YES, I'M HERE ON ITEM 55.

12:08:27PM UPDATE ON THE SMALL BUSINESS PARTICIPATION FOR THE SAN

12:08:30PM CARLOS PUMP STATION REHAB.

12:08:32PM ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CLEAR IS THAT THE AGENDA

12:08:35PM ITEM, THERE APPEARS TO BE A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.

12:08:38PM IT REFERS TO THIS PROJECT BEING MANAGED BY WOODRUFF.

12:08:42PM THIS PROJECT WAS AWARDED TO GARNET CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

12:08:45PM THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION.

12:08:55PM WE'RE BASICALLY IN THE MOBILIZATION STAGE.

12:08:58PM IT'S VERY PREMATURE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ANY SUBSTANTIVE

12:09:03PM UTILIZATION REPORT.




12:09:04PM THERE'S JUST NOTHING OCCURRING AT THIS MOMENT EXCEPT FOR

12:09:09PM MOBILIZATION.

12:09:10PM CONDITIONAL PERMIT ISSUED THAT WAS JUST LATE NOVEMBER.

12:09:15PM AND SOME OTHER SITE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING PROCESSED

12:09:19PM AS I SPEAK.

12:09:20PM THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO REPORT TO YOU, COUNCILOR, AT THIS

12:09:24PM TIME.

12:09:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

12:09:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

12:09:28PM WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY?

12:09:30PM >> GARNEY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

12:09:34PM G-A-R-N-E-Y.

12:09:36PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECTING THAT AND CARRYING OVER ITEM 55

12:09:39PM TO THE MARCH 15 DATE, WHICH WILL RUN PARALLEL WITH 56.

12:09:43PM WE CAN KEEP GETTING UPDATES ON HOW THESE BIG MULTIMILLION

12:09:48PM DOLLAR PROJECTS ARE DOING IN REGARD TO WMBE.

12:09:51PM THAT'S MY MOTION.

12:09:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:09:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:09:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:09:58PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:09:58PM DOES THAT DISPOSE OF 55 AND 56, SIR?

12:09:59PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, 56 WAS GUIDO'S.

12:10:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU HERE FOR 56?

12:10:05PM >> YES, SIR.




12:10:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD SIR.

12:10:08PM >> 56 IS FOR THE UPDATE ON SMALL BUSINESS PARTICIPATION FOR

12:10:13PM THE CYPRESS STREET OUTFALL STORMWATER PROJECT.

12:10:17PM THIS PROJECT WAS AWARDED TO WOODRUFF.

12:10:21PM IT, TOO, IS IN THE EARLY CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

12:10:25PM THERE'S BEEN LIMITED ACTIVITY.

12:10:31PM THEY ARE DEALING WITH SURETY BONDS AND SOME OF THE

12:10:34PM ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES.

12:10:35PM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED HAS BEEN ISSUED BUT NO REAL

12:10:38PM CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY TO SPEAK OF HAS OCCURRED.

12:10:40PM IT IS A LITTLE PREMATURE.

12:10:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:10:46PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

12:10:46PM WE APPRECIATE IT.

12:10:47PM NOW WE CIRCLE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 40.

12:10:50PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?

12:10:52PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:10:56PM SECONDED I THINK BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:10:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:10:59PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:11:00PM WE'RE HERE FOR ITEM 40, IT WOULD APPEAR.

12:11:03PM ANYBODY HERE FOR 40?

12:11:12PM COULD YOU SWEAR EVERYBODY IN?

12:11:16PM THANK YOU, SIR.

12:11:17PM IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, PLEASE




12:11:20PM STAND.

12:11:20PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE PREPARED TO BE SWORN IN.

12:11:25PM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]

12:11:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.

12:11:32PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

12:11:34PM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC

12:11:36PM PRESERVATION MANAGER HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 40.

12:11:40PM WE DO TYPICALLY GIVE A FULL, MORE EXTENDED PRESENTATION AT

12:11:43PM SECOND READING, BUT JUST TO INTRODUCE THE PROPERTY, THIS IS

12:11:47PM A RECOMMENDATION BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR

12:11:50PM THE LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE GIUNTA HOMESTEAD AND

12:11:56PM FARM WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE EASTERN PART OF YBOR CITY

12:12:01PM WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT.

12:12:04PM THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE FARM.

12:12:09PM THIS FARM WAS ORIGINALLY THE HOMESTEAD FOR VICTORIA AND

12:12:15PM SALVATORE GIUNTA WHO IMMIGRATED FROM SICILY IN THE EARLY

12:12:21PM 1900s AND BEGAN TO SERVE AS LABORERS IN YBOR CITY, VERY

12:12:27PM TYPICAL TO MANY OF THE STORIES THAT WE HEAR.

12:12:29PM HOWEVER, THIS STORY BECOMES VERY UNIQUE IN THAT THEY WORK

12:12:33PM THE FARMS OF EAST YBOR CITY AND CREATED A HOMESTEAD THAT

12:12:38PM STILL EXISTS TODAY AND STILL EXISTS AS A WORKING FARM.

12:12:41PM AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT WOULD BE THE LAST SICILIAN IMMIGRANT

12:12:47PM FARM IN THE CITY.

12:12:47PM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION DID FIND THAT THE

12:12:51PM PROPERTY DOES MEET THE DESIGNATION CRITERIA WITHIN THE CODE.




12:12:55PM IT DOES SATISFY THE NATIONAL REGISTER CRITERIA FOR

12:13:00PM AGRICULTURE ETHNIC HERITAGE, ARCHITECTURE, COMMUNITY

12:13:05PM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO IT IS ANTICIPATED THERE

12:13:06PM COULD BE SOME ARCHAEOLOGICAL DISCOVERIES IN THE FARM

12:13:09PM PORTION.

12:13:09PM THE OWNERS, THE GREAT GRANDCHILDREN OF VICTORIA AND

12:13:16PM SALVATORE ARE HERE TODAY.

12:13:19PM BEATRICE AND VICTORIA GIUNTA.

12:13:21PM I APPRECIATE THEIR PATIENCE IN WORKING WITH THEM.

12:13:24PM REALLY HAD A WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO

12:13:28PM REFER TO YOU AS WE WORKED THROUGH THIS DESIGNATION PROCESS.

12:13:31PM SO THANK YOU.

12:13:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN THEY STAND UP?

12:13:33PM HEY, GUYS.

12:13:38PM WELCOME.

12:13:38PM [ APPLAUSE ]

12:13:39PM THANK YOU.

12:13:43PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

12:13:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A COMMENT?

12:13:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: OF COURSE.

12:13:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK THE GIUNTAS FOR BEING SO

12:13:54PM PERSISTENT.

12:13:55PM THEY GAVE ME A TOUR A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

12:13:57PM IT TELLS A STORY OF YBOR THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE.

12:14:01PM IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF STORY.




12:14:02PM THE THING I WAS MOST IMPRESSED ABOUT, YOU SAID IT WAS YOUR

12:14:05PM GRANDFATHER BROUGHT SEEDS AND YOU'RE STILL GROWING THE SAME

12:14:09PM PRODUCTS AND A LOT OF THEM AREN'T AVAILABLE IN THE UNITED

12:14:11PM STATES RIGHT NOW.

12:14:12PM IT IS A REALLY INTERESTING STORY.

12:14:14PM THANK YOU.

12:14:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:14:16PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A SHOUT-OUT TO THE GIUNTA SISTERS.

12:14:23PM I THINK WE MET BACK IN '03 I WAS TAKING A TOUR.

12:14:27PM LINDA SAUL-SENA SAID YOU HAVE TO MEET THE SISTERS.

12:14:29PM AND THEY ARE DOING WONDERFUL THINGS AND CONTINUING YOUR

12:14:32PM FAMILY'S LEGACY AND HERITAGE ALL THE WAY TO TODAY.

12:14:35PM I KNOW YOU'RE PLANNING ON CONTINUING THAT WITH THE TRUST,

12:14:39PM AND IT'S FANTASTIC.

12:14:40PM I REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SHARED

12:14:43PM TOGETHER WAS EITHER YOU GUYS OR YOUR ANCESTORS GREW CELERY

12:14:49PM OUT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF A MUCKY AREA, WHICH IS

12:14:52PM CONDUCIVE TO CELERY.

12:14:55PM AND I THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT MY DAD'S FATHER, MY

12:14:59PM GRANDFATHER BASED OUT OF PLANT CITY AT THE TIME USED TO BE A

12:15:05PM CELERY BUYER.

12:15:06PM AND HE WOULD BUY THE CELERY AND SHIP IT TO NEW YORK WHERE

12:15:10PM CELERY APPARENTLY WAS KING BACK THEN, AS A REAL DELICACY.

12:15:17PM I HOPE THAT OUR FAMILIES PERHAPS MET BACK THEN AND ARE

12:15:20PM MEETING AGAIN NOW.




12:15:22PM CONGRATULATIONS AND BEST OF LUCK.

12:15:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:15:26PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

12:15:27PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE NOW?

12:15:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU OPEN THE FLOOR?

12:15:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.

12:15:33PM PUBLIC COMMENT.

12:15:33PM IS ANYBODY HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 40?

12:15:36PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

12:15:37PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:15:39PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:15:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:15:41PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:15:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, HOUSEKEEPING MATTER, FOR

12:15:45PM PURPOSES OF THIS ORDINANCE, YOU DO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE

12:15:48PM ORDINANCE BEING OFFERED.

12:15:50PM I'D LIKE COUNCIL TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE

12:15:52PM SUBSTITUTES WITH THE ORIGINAL EXHIBITS FROM THE ORIGINAL

12:15:55PM ORDINANCE BEING ATTACHED TO IT.

12:15:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION?

12:15:58PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:16:00PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:16:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:16:02PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:16:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.




12:16:04PM NOW, IF YOU CAN, READ THE SUBSTITUTE.

12:16:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE GIUNTA SISTERS FOR

12:16:16PM KEEPING THEIR FAMILY'S HISTORY ALIVE AND STILL FOR WORKING

12:16:17PM THE LAND.

12:16:17PM THANK YOU TO BOTH GIUNTA SISTERS.

12:16:18PM I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE FIRST

12:16:18PM READING IN FILE A2019-1.

12:16:24PM I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING CONSIDERED FOR READING.

12:16:26PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING THE

12:16:30PM GIUNTA HOMESTEAD AND FARM LOCATED -- THANK YOU.

12:16:36PM LOCATED AT 2401 EAST 11th AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE

12:16:43PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 THEREOF AS A LOCAL

12:16:47PM LANDMARK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN

12:16:51PM CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

12:16:55PM DATE.

12:16:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:16:58PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:17:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:17:01PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:17:03PM >>THE CLERK: MR. CHAIR, SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE

12:17:05PM HELD ON JANUARY 9, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

12:17:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAM.

12:17:12PM BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, STAFF, CLERK, YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH

12:17:15PM ANOTHER 20 MINUTES?

12:17:16PM OKAY.




12:17:20PM WE GO TO 41.

12:17:22PM ANYBODY HERE FOR 41?

12:17:27PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

12:17:29PM THIS IS SECOND READING.

12:17:30PM FIRST READING WAS ON NOVEMBER 14.

12:17:32PM I BELIEVE BRAD BAIRD WAS PRESENT AT THE TIME AND ADDRESSED

12:17:35PM QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD WITH REGARD TO THE UPDATED SCHEDULE

12:17:41PM OF PROJECTS.

12:17:41PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

12:17:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON 41?

12:17:45PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:17:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:17:49PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:17:51PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:17:52PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU MIND TAKING 41.

12:17:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

12:17:56PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE

12:17:58PM IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CAPITAL

12:18:04PM IMPROVEMENTS SECTION BY REPLACING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

12:18:08PM SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE

12:18:10PM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2024;

12:18:14PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;

12:18:15PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:18:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:18:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.




12:18:20PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

12:18:27PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

12:18:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 42.

12:18:37PM >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND

12:18:38PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

12:18:38PM ITEMS 42 THROUGH 46 ARE ALL SECOND READINGS FROM YOUR

12:18:42PM EVENING HEARING ON NOVEMBER 14.

12:18:44PM ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND ARE AT THE CITY

12:18:49PM CLERK'S OFFICE.

12:18:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:18:51PM APPLICANT.

12:18:55PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

12:18:57PM ON ITEM 42, PERTAINS TO THE SALVATION ARMY -- TYLER HUDSON.

12:19:01PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

12:19:02PM THE SALVATION ARMY SECOND READING HERE IS FOR THE REZONING.

12:19:05PM YOU MIGHT RECALL THERE IS A SEPARATE RIGHT-OF-WAY VACATION

12:19:08PM THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING NEXT THURSDAY.

12:19:14PM WE NEED BOTH OF THESE TO HAPPEN THE SAME NIGHT.

12:19:18PM WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE 42, THE SECOND READING ON THE REZONING

12:19:21PM TO NEXT THURSDAY TO COINCIDE WITH THE SECOND READING ON THE

12:19:24PM RIGHT-OF-WAY VACATION.

12:19:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FOR THE EVENING SESSION?

12:19:30PM >> I BELIEVE SO.

12:19:31PM MORNING CRA.

12:19:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.




12:19:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST THE DATE AND TIME PLEASE AGAIN FOR

12:19:36PM PURPOSES OF THE RECORD WOULD BE THEN DECEMBER 12 AT 6 P.M.

12:19:41PM >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

12:19:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:19:45PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:19:46PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:19:47PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON JUST

12:19:50PM THE CONTINUANCE?

12:19:51PM THIS IS BEING CONTINUED TO NEXT THURSDAY EVENING.

12:19:53PM ALL RIGHT.

12:19:54PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION -- IT'S DONE.

12:19:58PM ALL RIGHT.

12:19:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:19:59PM WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 43.

12:20:03PM ITEM NUMBER 43.

12:20:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, MAY I ASK,

12:20:11PM MR. CHAIRMAN, TO MOVE FORWARD?

12:20:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE THAT HAS ANY CASES COMING UP, 43,

12:20:17PM 44, 45, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK, SIT CLOSER TO THE FRONT.

12:20:23PM >> DEVON DAMON WITH PHELPS DUNBAR HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

12:20:31PM PROPERTY OWNER EAMMP AND DR. ALBERTO MORALES.

12:20:37PM OUR CONSULTANTS ARE HERE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

12:20:41PM OTHERWISE WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FINAL APPROVAL OF THE

12:20:46PM REZONING APPLICATION.

12:20:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




12:20:48PM DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

12:20:50PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO

12:20:53PM SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 43?

12:20:56PM >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:20:58PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:21:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:21:00PM NEXT UP, WE HAVE COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND

12:21:04PM TAKING ITEM NUMBER 43.

12:21:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-72, ORDINANCE BEING

12:21:12PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

12:21:14PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

12:21:17PM 3704 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND

12:21:20PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

12:21:22PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RO-1 (RESIDENTIAL OFFICE) TO PD

12:21:28PM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL

12:21:32PM OFFICE, CLUB, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, BANK, CATERING

12:21:40PM SHOP, PHARMACY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:21:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,

12:21:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:21:49PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

12:21:49PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

12:21:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 44.

12:21:54PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

12:22:05PM LANA DUNN.

12:22:10PM WHILE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS REQUEST THE REVISE FOR THE PLANS




12:22:20PM AND WE HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND WE ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE

12:22:23PM FINAL APPROVAL.

12:22:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

12:22:26PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:22:27PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

12:22:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I BELIEVE

12:22:30PM THAT I VOTED NO ON THIS ONE.

12:22:31PM THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS GOT LOT 49 FEET INSTEAD OF 50 ON

12:22:36PM THE CORNER OF ARMENIA AND KENTUCKY.

12:22:40PM >>THE CLERK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

12:22:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL CHECK THE TAPE.

12:22:44PM I'M SURE I VOTED AGAINST IT.

12:22:45PM ONE ON 49th STREET?

12:22:49PM >> YES.

12:22:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MEMORY IS PRETTY GOOD.

12:22:52PM MY HAIR IS GONE BUT I THINK PRETTY WELL.

12:22:55PM PROBLEM IS A LOT OF US DON'T HAVE ANY.

12:23:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU WANT TO HOLD OFF ON THE VOTE?

12:23:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NO.

12:23:06PM YOU CAN VOTE ON IT.

12:23:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA IT LOOKS LIKE I WAS ABSENT.

12:23:11PM COULD YOU AT LEAST REFRESH MY MEMORY OR PERHAPS INFORM ME OF

12:23:15PM WHAT YOUR ISSUE WAS --

12:23:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

12:23:17PM I JUST WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT.




12:23:19PM MY PRIVACY IS MY PRIVACY -- ANY VOTES OR COMMENTS ON HOW I

12:23:25PM VOTE.

12:23:25PM I UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:23:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- INFORM ME, BUT THANK YOU.

12:23:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:23:29PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

12:23:36PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.

12:23:38PM IS ANYBODY HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM 44?

12:23:41PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

12:23:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.

12:23:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:23:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:23:48PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:23:50PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:23:51PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE READING THIS SIR?

12:23:58PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR

12:24:02PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION REGARDING FILE NUMBER REZ 19-87.

12:24:08PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

12:24:11PM 2301 WEST KENTUCKY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND

12:24:15PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

12:24:17PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY)

12:24:21PM TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY

12:24:24PM DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:24:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:24:31PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.




12:24:32PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

12:24:40PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.

12:24:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:24:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:24:44PM 45, ANYONE HERE FOR 45?

12:24:49PM >> JACKIE.

12:24:52PM I'M JUST HERE FOR THE SECOND READING REQUESTING YOUR

12:24:54PM APPROVAL.

12:24:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

12:24:56PM OKAY.

12:24:58PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WAITING THIS MORNING.

12:25:01PM WE APPRECIATE IT.

12:25:02PM ANYBODY HERE IN THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 45?

12:25:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:25:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:25:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:25:09PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:25:10PM WHO WANTS TO TAKE THIS ONE?

12:25:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL TAKE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:25:14PM FILE NUMBER REZ 19-95, ITEM 45.

12:25:18PM MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

12:25:21PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4001

12:25:23PM NORTH MYRTLE AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE

12:25:26PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

12:25:28PM CLASSIFICATIONS PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,




12:25:31PM BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE) TO SH-CG (SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,

12:25:36PM COMMERCIAL GENERAL); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:25:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:25:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:25:41PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

12:25:46PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

12:25:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:25:49PM NOW WE MOVE TO OUR LAST ITEM, 46, ANYBODY HERE FOR 46?

12:25:53PM OF COURSE, PHILLIP HOUSTON JUNIOR.

12:26:05PM PHILLIP HOUSTON SENIOR, SPONSOR FOR 3221 WEST PAXTON.

12:26:13PM I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

12:26:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE THANK SENIOR AND JUNIOR FOR YOUR PATIENCE

12:26:19PM TODAY.

12:26:21PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR SENIOR OR JUNIOR?

12:26:22PM OKAY.

12:26:24PM ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER

12:26:27PM 46?

12:26:27PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:26:30PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:26:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:26:33PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:26:33PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE?

12:26:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE IT TO CITRO.

12:26:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: REZ 19-96, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

12:26:49PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.




12:26:50PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3221

12:26:53PM WEST PAXTON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE

12:26:56PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT

12:26:58PM CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50,

12:27:03PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:27:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:27:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:27:08PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

12:27:23PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

12:27:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

12:27:26PM MERRY CHRISTMAS. HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

12:27:27PM 47 APPARENTLY IS GOING TO BE --

12:27:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN FILE BSR 20-01, I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE

12:27:39PM TO FEBRUARY 6.

12:27:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY

12:27:51PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:27:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:27:53PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:27:54PM BEFORE WE MOVE ON THAT CONTINUANCE, ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON

12:27:58PM THE CONTINUANCE SOLELY FOR ITEM 47?

12:28:00PM THIS IS SOLELY ON THE CONTINUANCE.

12:28:07PM COME ON FORWARD.

12:28:08PM >> NOT ON WHETHER TO BRICK IT OR NOT.

12:28:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

12:28:12PM ONLY ON THE CONTINUANCE.




12:28:13PM TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US 45 SECONDS.

12:28:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- WHETHER THAT WOULD BE

12:28:20PM APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT TO TAKE TESTIMONY ON

12:28:24PM THIS.

12:28:24PM >> IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO CONTINUE.

12:28:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I FELT BAD BECAUSE YOU WAITED FOR SO LONG.

12:28:30PM THANK YOU, SIR.

12:28:31PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

12:28:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, SIR, YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE

12:28:37PM OR YOU MAY HAVE MISSED IT, WE MENTIONED EARLY ON THAT THE

12:28:41PM ITEM WOULD BE CONTINUED AND ACTUALLY SOMEBODY DID SPEAK TO

12:28:43PM IT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT

12:28:46PM THEY'LL COME BACK ON FEBRUARY 6th.

12:28:48PM >> FEBRUARY 6.

12:28:49PM OKAY.

12:28:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:28:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WON'T BE GETTING ANY FURTHER NOTICE

12:28:53PM ABOUT THAT.

12:28:54PM PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU MAKE A NOTE.

12:28:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, SIR?

12:28:58PM >> MORRIS PULLARA, P-U-L-L-A-R-A.

12:29:03PM I'M A RESIDENT OF 1108 NORTH FRANKLIN.

12:29:06PM I OVERLOOK THIS PARTICULAR STRETCH OF STREET AND WOULD LIKE

12:29:09PM TO SEE IT BRICKED.

12:29:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.




12:29:11PM THANK YOU, SIR.

12:29:11PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

12:29:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 9:00 A.M.

12:29:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, THAT WOULD BE 10:30 A.M.

12:29:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO DID THE MOTION TO CONTINUE?

12:29:22PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:29:25PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:29:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING FOR ITEM 47,

12:29:29PM IT'S FEBRUARY 6, 2020, AT 10:30 A.M.

12:29:33PM ONLY NOTICE THEY WILL BE RECEIVING ON THIS ITEM.

12:29:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:29:38PM MOTIONS, ET CETERA.

12:29:42PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:29:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE.

12:29:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING.

12:29:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO LITTLE RICHARD

12:29:49PM WHO IS 87 TODAY.

12:29:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.

12:29:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:29:56PM MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE A

12:29:59PM COMMENDATION TO DR. SAMUEL WRIGHT SENIOR, FOUNDER OF THE

12:30:03PM TAMPA BAY BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL AND TAMPA BAY CONVENTION

12:30:05PM AND VISITORS BUREAU AS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR HE HAD A VISION

12:30:09PM TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE IN THE

12:30:13PM TAMPA BAY AREA AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.




12:30:15PM I PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO DR. WRIGHT AT THE REGULAR

12:30:18PM SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 9, 2020.

12:30:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:30:23PM SECOND I BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:30:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:30:26PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:30:27PM ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?

12:30:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT, SIR.

12:30:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?

12:30:33PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:30:34PM THE INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC CORPS OF FLORIDA IS HAVING A

12:30:40PM HOLOCAUST COMMEMORATION ON JANUARY 19.

12:30:43PM THEY REQUESTED A PROCLAMATION, A COMMENDATION FROM THE

12:30:51PM COUNCIL.

12:30:51PM WITH YOUR APPROVAL, I WOULD BE GLAD TO GO PRESENT IT ON OUR

12:30:54PM BEHALF.

12:30:55PM THAT'S MY MOTION.

12:30:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

12:30:57PM BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I MUST CONFESS, I HAD NEVER BEEN TO THE

12:31:00PM FLORIDA HOLOCAUST MUSEUM IN ST. PETERSBURG.

12:31:02PM I'VE BEEN TO THE ONE IN D.C. PROBABLY EIGHT, NINE TIMES.

12:31:06PM THAT IS JUST THROUGH THE ROOF.

12:31:07PM IT IS AMAZING.

12:31:08PM MY HAT IS OFF TO ST. PETE FOR THAT.

12:31:10PM THAT IS AMAZING.




12:31:11PM BUT WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:31:14PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:31:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:31:18PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:31:18PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

12:31:21PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT TODAY.

12:31:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

12:31:24PM I MOTIONED FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FINES AND FEES

12:31:27PM JUSTICE CENTER TO COME PRESENT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL A REGULAR

12:31:30PM SESSION ON DECEMBER 19 TO DISCUSS THE STATE'S DRIVER'S

12:31:33PM LICENSE SUSPENSION PROGRAM AND HOW IT IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE

12:31:37PM AND DISPROPORTIONATELY PUNISHES POOR PEOPLE.

12:31:41PM SENATOR IS WORKING ON LEGISLATION IN TALLAHASSEE INCLUDING

12:31:42PM WITH REPRESENTATIVES HERE IN TAMPA TO ADDRESS THIS

12:31:44PM INJUSTICE.

12:31:45PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL BE AWARE OF THESE

12:31:49PM EFFORTS.

12:31:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A

12:31:51PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:31:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:31:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

12:31:56PM MOTION FOR PARKS AND RECREATION TO APPEAR AND DISCUSS A

12:31:58PM REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS SCHEDULED FOR

12:32:00PM FOREST HILLS RECREATION CENTER JANUARY 23, 2020 MEETING.

12:32:05PM THAT IS SOMETHING BUDGETED TIME, INCLUDING THIS YEAR, TIME




12:32:07PM AND TIME AGAIN.

12:32:08PM THE PEOPLE OF FOREST HILLS AT THE REC CENTER HAVE BEEN

12:32:10PM WAITING FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FOR I THINK FIVE OR SIX YEARS

12:32:13PM AFTER IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED.

12:32:15PM AND THERE CONTINUE TO BE STORMWATER CHALLENGES.

12:32:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA

12:32:18PM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:32:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:32:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, THAT DATE WAS JANUARY 23rd.

12:32:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

12:32:24PM AND THEN THIS IS FOR NO APPEARANCE.

12:32:27PM YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE NEXT DOOR APP, THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO

12:32:32PM COMMUNICATE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.

12:32:34PM I KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS A PROFILE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT

12:32:37PM SITES.

12:32:38PM I CAN ONLY ACCESS THE ONE IN HUNTER'S GREEN.

12:32:40PM I MOTION FOR A REPORT WITH NO APPEARANCE NECESSARY BY THE

12:32:42PM ADMINISTRATION ON HOW EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN GET THEIR

12:32:46PM OWN, IF WE WISH, NEXT DOOR PROFILE IN WHATEVER NEIGHBORHOODS

12:32:48PM WE WANT WITHIN OUR DISTRICTS OR WITHIN THE CITY.

12:32:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ADD, SIR, IF YOU CAN AMEND THAT TO

12:32:55PM ALSO INCLUDE TO COMPLY WITH FLORIDA LAW REGARDING PUBLIC

12:32:59PM RECORDS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS.

12:33:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: OF COURSE.

12:33:01PM YES, WE'LL NEED A LITTLE ADVICE ON THAT IF IT HAPPENS, AS




12:33:04PM YOU KNOW.

12:33:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, I WANT TO THANK MR. CHAIRMAN FOR

12:33:10PM RAISING THE ISSUE.

12:33:11PM THE CONCEPT OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND CONCEPT OF APPS SUCH AS

12:33:14PM THAT, THERE ARE MUNICIPALITIES THAT DO HAVE ABILITY TO

12:33:19PM ARCHIVE AND RETRIEVE AND COMPLY WITH FLORIDA LAW WITHIN THE

12:33:22PM CITY SERVERS.

12:33:23PM SO THAT WOULD BE WORTHY OF DISCUSSION.

12:33:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M VERY ACTIVE ON NEXT DOOR.

12:33:27PM I FIND IT TO BE USEFUL 97% OF THE TIME.

12:33:33PM >>THE CLERK: WRITTEN REPORT?

12:33:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:33:35PM JANUARY 23rd IS FINE.

12:33:37PM AGAIN, NO APPEARANCE NECESSARY.

12:33:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA

12:33:40PM WITH A SECOND FROM?

12:33:41PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:33:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:33:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST VERY BRIEFLY, A MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION

12:33:49PM THAT I PRESENT TO DAVID JACOB SWITZER FOR TROOP 142.

12:33:52PM I'LL PRESENT IT DECEMBER 28 AT AN EVENT AT HIS HOUSE FOR HIS

12:33:56PM BECOMING AN EAGLE SCOUT.

12:33:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN VIERA AND A

12:33:59PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:33:59PM ALL IN FAVOR?




12:33:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY BRIEFLY.

12:34:01PM TWO MORE.

12:34:02PM I MOTION FOR CHIEF NICK LoCICERO TO APPEAR AND REPORT TO

12:34:05PM COUNCIL AT THE REGULAR SESSION ON JANUARY 23rd TO DISCUSS

12:34:08PM EFFORTS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO RESPONSE TIMES.

12:34:10PM AND I MOTION FOR THIS.

12:34:12PM THIS DEALS WITH FIRE STATION 13 AS WELL AS EAST TAMPA.

12:34:15PM IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, DURING THE BUDGET, THE ADMINISTRATION

12:34:20PM WAS GOING TO BE SPEAKING WITH 754, THE UNION, ABOUT THESE

12:34:24PM IMPROVEMENTS.

12:34:24PM AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO REPORT BACK TO US WITHIN A HUNDRED

12:34:27PM DAYS.

12:34:27PM I'M SAYING, HEY, HERE'S A HUNDRED DAYS.

12:34:29PM LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.

12:34:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA

12:34:32PM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:34:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:34:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, I MOTION FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM

12:34:39PM PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO REPORT TO COUNCIL ON PARTS OF THE

12:34:42PM UNIVERSITY AREA THAT REMAIN -- AND THIS IS REMARKABLE IN

12:34:45PM YEAR 2019 -- ON WELL WATER, AS MENTIONED DURING THE UACDC

12:34:50PM PRESENTATION BY MS. SARAH COMBS.

12:34:52PM I MOTIONED THAT THEY REPORT ON THIS AT OUR MARCH 26

12:34:55PM WORKSHOP.

12:34:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN --




12:34:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, SIR.

12:34:59PM COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

12:35:00PM IS THAT A WRITTEN REPORT?

12:35:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: WORKSHOP.

12:35:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WORKSHOP.

12:35:04PM DATE WAS --

12:35:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: MARCH 26.

12:35:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARCH 26.

12:35:09PM YOU HAVE ONE AT LAND BANKING AT 9 A.M.

12:35:13PM DID YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE FOR 9:15 OR 9:30.

12:35:16PM WHICH TIME DO YOU PREFER?

12:35:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: 9:30 IS FINE.

12:35:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

12:35:22PM WE CAN ALWAYS MOVE THEM UP BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO

12:35:25PM HAPPEN LEGALLY NECESSARILY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

12:35:29PM THE MOTION THEN IS FOR THE 26th OF MARCH AT 9:30 A.M.

12:35:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

12:35:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FINAL MOTION WAS CHAIRMAN VIERA WITH A

12:35:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:35:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:35:41PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, ANNETTE JUST REMINDED ME,

12:35:46PM ONE OTHER MOTION, AND THIS RELATES TO OUR DISCUSSION EARLIER

12:35:49PM ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND POTENTIAL INCENTIVES.

12:35:53PM I WOULD ASK THAT STAFF, INCLUDING CAROL, OUR NEW ECONOMIC

12:36:01PM DEVELOPMENT PERSON, AND VANESSA AND LEGAL AND ANYBODY ELSE




12:36:06PM APPROPRIATE COME BACK FOR A WORKSHOP MARCH 19 AT 9:30.

12:36:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARCH 19 IS A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING DAY.

12:36:19PM DID YOU WANT IT AS A WORKSHOP OR A STAFF REPORT?

12:36:19PM HOW LONG DID YOU WANT TO SPEND, SIR?

12:36:21PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN IS THE WORKSHOP IN MARCH?

12:36:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 26th.

12:36:24PM WE JUST SCHEDULED ONE FOR 9:30.

12:36:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAKE IT 10:00.

12:36:29PM TO PROVIDE AND PRESENT US WITH INCENTIVE ALTERNATIVES FOR

12:36:34PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

12:36:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:36:38PM A SECOND BY WHOM?

12:36:40PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:36:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:36:44PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:36:45PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

12:36:46PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO THANK YOU.

12:36:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

12:36:49PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:36:52PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:36:53PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:36:54PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:36:55PM COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.

12:36:56PM THANK YOU.

12:36:56PM [ADJOURNED]

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