TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2019
9:00 A.M.
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09:04:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:04:58 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS MORNING, THE INVOCATION IS
09:05:00 GOING TO BE GIVEN BY REVEREND DR. RUSSELL L. MEYER.
09:05:05 HE HAS LED FLORIDA'S MAIN LINE LUTHERAN CHURCHES IN
09:05:09 PUBLIC WITNESSES FOR THE COMMONS -- FOR OVER A DECADE,
09:05:14 EXCUSE ME, WORKING WITH MULTI-FAITH COMMITMENT FROM
09:05:18 HOLISTIC PERSPECTIVE.
09:05:20 HE ACCENTS THE VALUES OF OUR SHARED HUMANITY TOWARD --
09:05:25 EXCUSE ME.
09:05:26 LET ME CATCH UP.
09:05:28 HE IS GROUNDED IN TAMPA AS PASTOR OF TWO CONJOINED
09:05:31 LUTHERAN CONGREGATIONS AND ADVOCATES STATEWIDE FOR
09:05:35 FLOURISHING ALL OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS OF THE FLORIDA
09:05:38 COUNCIL OF CHURCHES.
09:05:40 MOST RECENTLY, HE HAS SUCCESSFULLY URGED THE CITIES OF
09:05:45 ST. PETERSBURG TO ADOPT RESOLUTIONS DECLARING THE CITIES
09:05:49 DEVOTED TO THE RACIAL EQUALITY LENSES, DECLARING THE CITY
09:05:51 OF COMPASSION.
09:05:54 AND REGISTERING AS AN INTERNATIONAL CITY OF PEACE.
09:06:00 HE CONVENES THE FLORIDA INTERFAITH CLIMATE ACTIONS
09:06:03 NETWORK AND CO-CHAIRS THE SUNCOAST SEA LEVEL RISE
09:06:07 COLLABORATIVE AT THE ST. PETERSBURG COLLEGE.
09:06:09 REVEREND MEYER GREW UP IN NEBRASKA, HIGH SCHOOL IN
09:06:16 SHAWNEE MISSION, KANSAS.
09:06:19 AFTER COLLEGE, HE MOVED TO THE EAST COAST WHERE HE MET
09:06:22 HIS SPOUSE, AN ADVANCED NURSE PRACTITIONER.
09:06:27 THEY HAVE LIVED IN CONNECTICUT, LONG ISLAND, WASHINGTON,
09:06:30 D.C., CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, BEFORE MOVING TO OUR
09:06:33 GREAT CITY IN 1994.
09:06:36 TOGETHER, THEY HAVE RAISED TWO SONS AND FLORIDA AND THE
09:06:40 CITY OF TAMPA HAS BECOME THEIR HOME.
09:06:42 REVEREND, IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN
09:06:45 STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:06:50 >> LET US TURN TO THAT PLACE WITHIN US WHERE WE KNOW WE
09:06:54 ARE LOVED AND WE ARE SAFE.
09:06:56 AND WE HAVE A FUTURE.
09:06:59 HOLY ONE, DWELL IN THE MIDST OF OUR CITY TAMPA.
09:07:08 LET IT BE CALLED THE FAITHFUL CITY.
09:07:12 LET THIS BECOME A HOLY PLACE FOR ALL WHO VISIT.
09:07:18 ALL MEN AND ALL WOMEN SHALL SIT AGAIN IN THE STREETS OF
09:07:25 JERUSALEM IN PEACE, EACH WITH STAFF IN HAND BECAUSE OF
09:07:30 THEIR GREAT AND HEALTHY AGE.
09:07:32 LET THE STREETS OF OUR CITY BE FULL OF BOYS AND GIRLS
09:07:37 PLAYING IN THEM IN SAFETY AND JOY.
09:07:40 AND THOUGH IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE IN THESE DAYS, IT IS NOT
09:07:44 IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU.
09:07:47 LET THERE BE A SOWING OF PEACE.
09:07:51 LET THE VINEYARDS BEAR THEIR FRUIT.
09:07:55 LET THE INDUSTRIES CREATE THEIR PRODUCTS.
09:07:58 LET THEIR CREATIVE MINDS LEAD FLORIDA'S FUTURE.
09:08:02 LET THE SKIES GIVE THEIR PRODUCE.
09:08:07 TAKE AWAY ALL FEAR.
09:08:09 LET OUR HANDS BE STRONG.
09:08:11 HELP US TO DO THE THINGS THAT YOU REQUIRE, TO SPEAK THE
09:08:15 TRUTH TO ONE ANOTHER, TO RENDER IN OUR COURTS AND IN OUR
09:08:22 FRONT YARDS.
09:08:24 JUDGMENTS THAT ARE TRUE AND MAKE FOR PEACE.
09:08:27 DO NOT DEVISE EVIL IN ANY OF OUR HEARTS AGAINST ONE
09:08:33 ANOTHER.
09:08:34 LET US RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO DEMONIZE THOSE IN OUR
09:08:39 CITY.
09:08:39 LET US PUT AWAY ALL FALSE OATHS AND LET OUR PROMISES BE
09:08:50 TRUE, FOR WE KNOW WHAT THINGS YOU LOVE AND THE THINGS
09:08:56 THAT YOU HATE.
09:08:59 AND SO WE ASK FOR HEALING IN OUR CITIES.
09:09:05 OUR HEARTS BREAK AND OUR BODIES GROW INFIRM.
09:09:09 PEOPLE TURN AGAINST EACH OTHER AND EVEN OUR NATION
09:09:15 DISTANCES ITSELF FROM OTHERS.
09:09:20 BUT WE WOULD CLAIM YOU AND YOU ARE ONE AND YOU CLAIM ALL.
09:09:24 SO MEND OUR HEARTS, HEAL OUR BODIES, SEND BLESSINGS UPON
09:09:30 OUR CITY LEADERS.
09:09:32 GIVE STRENGTH TO ALL WHO WORK FOR THE GOOD IN THIS CITY,
09:09:36 WHETHER EMPLOYED OR VOLUNTEER, AND SEND US FORTH
09:09:43 MESSENGERS OF PEACE, EMPATHY, AND COMPASSION THAT BY YOUR
09:09:48 SPIRIT CAN HEAL DIVISIONS AND MAKE KNOWN THAT YOUR GLORY
09:09:59 AND YOUR HOLINESS DWELL AMONG US.
09:10:00 IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
09:10:02 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:10:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:10:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:10:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:10:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:10:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:10:25 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:10:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:10:27 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:10:28 WE MOVE NOW TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM TO
09:10:31 THE AGENDA.
09:10:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:10:33 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE PULLED ITEM, I THINK, 41.
09:10:35 WERE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS PULLED?
09:10:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS IN DISCUSSION WITH
09:10:41 STAFF ON ITEM 23.
09:10:43 I WAS STILL WAITING TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
09:10:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT PULLED?
09:10:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PLEASE.
09:10:47 >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL BE PULLING 23 AND 41.
09:10:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 56 AND 55 -- [INAUDIBLE]
09:10:57 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
09:10:59 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
09:11:00 AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE, IF AT ALL
09:11:02 POSSIBLE, I KNOW THESE WERE DISCUSSIONS FROM YESTERDAY.
09:11:04 PLEASE HAVE THEM PULLED THE DAY BEFORE.
09:11:07 WE'LL PROCEED TODAY BECAUSE IT'S THE HOLIDAYS.
09:11:09 23, 41, 55 AND 56.
09:11:12 MAY I HAVE APPROVAL?
09:11:13 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:11:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I BELIEVE.
09:11:18 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:11:19 ANY OPPOSED?
09:11:20 OKAY.
09:11:20 WE MOVE TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
09:11:24 COUNCILMAN CITRO, POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:11:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
09:11:27 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:11:38 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:11:44 SOME OF THE COUNCIL WERE AT AN EVENT HELD BY THE MAYOR IN
09:11:51 WHICH THE STUDENTS FROM THE MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD
09:12:01 UNIVERSITY WERE PRESENT.
09:12:03 AND THEY GOT THEIR DIPLOMAS THAT DAY.
09:12:05 THE FIRST THING THAT THE MAYOR SAID AFTER SHE
09:12:10 CONGRATULATED HIM WAS, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE CITIZENS
09:12:15 ACADEMY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:12:18 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
09:12:20 IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT THESE FINE MEN AND WOMEN
09:12:24 DO FOR US EACH AND EVERY DAY, I SUGGEST YOU GO THERE.
09:12:27 I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION EACH AND EVERY MONTH
09:12:34 TO EVERY POLICE OFFICER, HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE.
09:12:41 TODAY, WE'RE GIVING IT TO OFFICER MICHAEL TOWNSEND.
09:12:45 I'M GOING TO HAVE THE CHIEF EXPLAIN WHY THIS OFFICER IS
09:12:48 DESERVED OF THIS COMMENDATION.
09:12:50 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:12:53 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:12:53 BRIAN DUGAN, YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE.
09:12:56 OFFICER MICHAEL TOWNSEND HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO DISTRICT
09:12:59 THREE FTO SQUAD SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2019.
09:13:02 HE HAS SUCCESSFULLY TRAINED PROBATION OFFICERS AND
09:13:10 ASSISTED WITH LATENT INVESTIGATIONS IN BETWEEN HIS CALLS
09:13:10 FOR SERVICE.
09:13:10 IN ADDITION TO HIS REGULAR DUTIES, HE'S ALSO A MEMBER OF
09:13:13 OUR TACTICAL RESPONSE TEAM AND THE HONOR GUARD.
09:13:15 ON OCTOBER 14th, MIKE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH A
09:13:20 DEFENDANT THAT MATCHED THE DESCRIPTION OF A WANTED
09:13:22 SUBJECT THAT HAD A FELONY WARRANT.
09:13:25 AS HE APPROACHED, THE DEFENDANT FLED ON FOOT.
09:13:27 AS HE PURSUED THE DEFENDANT, HE OBSERVED HIM RETRIEVE AN
09:13:32 ITEM FROM HIS WAISTBAND AND DISCARD IT ON THE YARD ON
09:13:35 37th STREET.
09:13:36 HE TOOK DEFENDANT INTO CUSTODY AND WHILE SEARCHING HIM,
09:13:39 HE FOUND A GUN HOLSTER THAT WAS LOCATED IN HIS WAISTBAND.
09:13:43 HE WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT IT, AND WHEN HE DISCARDED IT AND
09:13:46 HE REPLIED IT WAS A GUN.
09:13:48 DURING THE SEARCH OF THE AFOREMENTIONED YARD, A .38
09:13:52 CALIBER REVOLVER WAS LOCATED.
09:13:54 DEFENDANT MADE A SPONTANEOUS STATEMENT INDICATING
09:13:57 OWNERSHIP OF THE FIREARM.
09:13:58 HE WAS CHARGED WITH CARRYING A CONCEALED FIREARM AND
09:14:01 ARRESTED FOR THE OUTSTANDING WARRANT.
09:14:03 A WEEK LATER, MIKE LOCATED AND ARRESTED THE DEFENDANT
09:14:06 WITH A LOCAL PICKUP FROM A BURGLARY CASE IN DISTRICT ONE.
09:14:10 HE CONDUCTED A POST-MIRANDA INTERVIEW IN WHICH THE
09:14:13 DEFENDANT ADMITTED TO THE CRIME.
09:14:15 LATER IN THE MONTH, MIKE RESPONDED TO A COMPLAINT OF
09:14:18 THREE SUBJECTS SMOKING MARIJUANA AT A BELMONT HEIGHTS
09:14:23 PARK.
09:14:24 DETECTED THE ODOR OF MARIJUANA, OBSERVED THE INDIVIDUAL
09:14:27 MATCHING THE DESCRIPTIONS AND ONE OF THOSE PERSONS FLED
09:14:29 ON FOOT.
09:14:30 OF COURSE, MIKE RAN.
09:14:32 YOU CAN SEE VERY FIT AND CLEARLY VERY FAST, WAS ABLE TO
09:14:36 CATCH UP TO THE GUY.
09:14:37 BUT DURING THE CHASE, THE DEFENDANT PUT SOMETHING IN ONE
09:14:41 OF THE TRASH CANS.
09:14:42 ONCE THEY TOOK HIM INTO CUSTODY, THEY WENT BACK TO THE
09:14:46 TRASH CAN AND LOCATED A .38 CALIBER PISTOL.
09:14:50 HE RAN THE GUN THROUGH FCIC/NCIC, AND THE GUN HAD BEEN
09:14:54 STOLEN BACK IN JUNE OF 2018.
09:14:56 THE 16-YEAR-OLD DEFENDANT WAS FOUND TO BE ON HOME
09:14:59 DETENTION FOR BURGLARY AND GRAND THEFT.
09:15:01 THE HOMEOWNER PROVIDED A SWORN STATEMENT THAT THE TRASH
09:15:04 BAG HAD BEEN PLACED ON THE PORCH, AND THERE WAS NO
09:15:06 FIREARM INSIDE IT PRIOR TO THIS EVENT.
09:15:09 THE JUVENILE DEFENDANT WAS CHARGED ACCORDINGLY.
09:15:10 DURING THE SAME SHIFT, A WOMAN REPORTED THAT HER HUSBAND
09:15:14 FIRED A GUN INSIDE HIS BEDROOM AND MAY HAVE COMMITTED
09:15:18 SUICIDE.
09:15:19 MIKE LEARNED A MALE WAS ARMED WITH A GUN AND UTILIZED THE
09:15:22 SHIELD TO ENTER THE RESIDENCE DUE TO THE SITUATION.
09:15:27 HE QUICKLY BEGAN A METHODICAL SEARCH OF THE BUILDING, OF
09:15:31 THE HOUSE, SORRY, LOCATED A MALE HOLDING A GUN TO HIS
09:15:34 HEAD INSIDE THE MASTER BEDROOM.
09:15:37 WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE PERSON ACTUALLY FIRED THE GUN BUT
09:15:41 HAD NOT COMMITTED SUICIDE.
09:15:42 MIKE SPENT SEVERAL MINUTES ATTEMPTING TO DE-ESCALATE THE
09:15:46 SITUATION AND NEGOTIATE WITH THE MALE TO PUT THE GUN DOWN
09:15:48 AND TALK.
09:15:50 WITH THE STANCE OF OTHER OFFICERS AS THEY ARRIVED ON
09:15:53 SCENE, MIKE WAS ABLE TO SUBDUE AND UNARM THE SUBJECT.
09:15:56 HE WAS HANDCUFFED AND THE SUBJECT WAS LATER BAKER ACTED
09:15:59 AND RECEIVED THE APPROPRIATE HELP THAT HE NEEDED.
09:16:01 IN RECOGNITION OF HIS EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE OF
09:16:06 MERITORIOUS SERVICE, OFFICER MICHAEL TOWNSEND HAS BEEN
09:16:09 SELECTED AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR DECEMBER 2019.
09:16:11 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:16:12 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:21 >> JIMMY OWENS AND APRIL LARSON WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
09:16:25 BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION.
09:16:27 WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT MIKE A PLAQUE FOR HIS HARD WORK
09:16:32 AND DEDICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT.
09:16:37 >> RICHARD GONZMART, COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP.
09:16:40 WE'RE HONORED TO BE WITH YOU, OFFICER TOWNSEND.
09:16:44 I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY DURING THE HOLIDAY
09:16:46 SEASON TO GIVE THANKS TO ALL THE WOMEN AND MEN IN UNIFORM
09:16:49 THAT PROTECT OUR CITY, OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY.
09:16:51 WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE AND OUR FAMILY SUPPORTS
09:16:55 LAW ENFORCEMENT.
09:16:56 AS WE BEGIN OUR 115th ANNIVERSARY OF BUSINESS ON BEHALF
09:16:59 OF MY FAMILY, THE GONZMART FAMILY, THE 1400 EMPLOYEES, WE
09:17:03 WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU $115 GIFT CERTIFICATE.
09:17:06 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:17:10 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:17:16 >> OFFICER TOWNSEND, ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER FOR
09:17:19 THE PERFORMING ARTS AND ALL THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA, WE
09:17:22 WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO AND ALL THE
09:17:25 POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES TO KEEP OUR TOWN HEALTHY AND SAFE,
09:17:30 AND WE WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU WITH TICKETS TO A
09:17:35 PERFORMANCE.
09:17:35 AND WE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAYS.
09:17:42 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:17:45 >> BRIAN SCHWART, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
09:17:48 FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH YOU A HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON
09:17:52 AND ALL THE BEST IN THE NEW YEAR.
09:17:53 OFFICER TOWNSEND, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:17:55 UNBELIEVABLE.
09:17:56 THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SACRIFICE.
09:17:59 WE HAVE A TRADITION AT ONE BUC WHERE WE HAND OUT GAME
09:18:02 BALLS.
09:18:02 AFTER HEARING YOUR STORY, WE WANTED TO PRESENT THIS
09:18:04 PERSONALIZED GAME BALL TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR
09:18:07 EXTENDED EFFORTS AND WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY A HAPPY
09:18:10 HOLIDAYS AS WELL.
09:18:11 >> APPRECIATE IT.
09:18:12 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:15 >> GOOD MORNING, MARY LOU BAILEY.
09:18:17 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA AT LOWRY PARK.
09:18:20 FIRST OF ALL, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE.
09:18:22 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.
09:18:25 I'M REALLY IMPRESSED.
09:18:26 I'VE GONE TO THAT CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
09:18:29 WHAT STRUCK ME THE MOST IS HOW YOU HAVE TO MAKE
09:18:32 SPLIT-SECOND DECISIONS AND LIVES ARE AT STAKE.
09:18:35 I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH THE LITTLE WE HEARD ABOUT YOU
09:18:39 TODAY.
09:18:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:18:41 I'M PRESENTING YOU A MEMBERSHIP TO ZOO TAMPA FOR THE
09:18:44 ENTIRE YEAR.
09:18:44 IT'S A GIFT TO YOU FROM THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT THE
09:18:46 ZOO.
09:18:47 I WILL REMIND YOU THAT IT'S CHRISTMAS IN THE WILD AND YOU
09:18:50 CAN STILL GO.
09:18:51 IT'S INCLUDED IN THE MEMBERSHIP.
09:18:52 IT IS A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP AND GOOD FOR THE YEAR.
09:18:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:18:57 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:01 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:19:02 CARLOS RAMOS WITH THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY
09:19:05 AUTHORITY.
09:19:06 OFFICER, ON BEHALF OF THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY AND OUR
09:19:08 COMMUNITY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:19:10 ON BEHALF OF THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY, I WOULD LIKE TO
09:19:13 GIVE YOU A GIFT CARD TO OUTBACK.
09:19:15 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:19:16 >> THANK YOU.
09:19:16 MUCH APPRECIATED.
09:19:17 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:20 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:19:25 MIKE McARTHUR.
09:19:26 STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:19:29 CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
09:19:30 ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE,
09:19:34 $50 BASS GIFT CARD AND NIGHT OUT IN OUR COMPANY
09:19:38 LIMOUSINE.
09:19:38 I PULLED IN THE YARD AND HAPPENED TO BE A NEW LIMO THERE.
09:19:42 PLAY YOUR CARDS RIGHT, YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE IN THE NEW
09:19:45 LIMO.
09:19:46 ASK FOR THE NEW LIMO.
09:19:47 I'M ALSO PULLING DOUBLE DUTY.
09:19:49 STEVE MICHELINI WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT.
09:19:51 HE ACQUIRES SOME GIFTS FOR YOU GUYS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
09:19:56 HERE WE'VE GOT A $50 GIFT CARD TO YUMMY HOUSE CHINA
09:20:01 BISTRO.
09:20:03 $100 GIFT CERTIFICATE TO PRESTIGE PORTRAITS FOR YOU AND
09:20:06 YOUR FAMILY.
09:20:07 A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO THE TAMPA METROPOLITAN YMCA, YOU
09:20:13 AND YOUR FAMILY.
09:20:14 ALSO GOT ANOTHER YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO GIFT CARD.
09:20:23 BEAR WITH ME.
09:20:24 HE USUALLY DOES THIS.
09:20:25 THIS IS FORBICI'S MODERN ITALIAN RESTAURANT.
09:20:31 $50.
09:20:31 AND TONY'S DAILY EATS.
09:20:33 ALL THE INFORMATION IS ON HERE WITH GIFT CARDS, STUFF
09:20:36 LIKE THAT.
09:20:38 ENJOY THESE.
09:20:38 YOU DESERVED IT.
09:20:39 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:20:39 >> THANK YOU.
09:20:40 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:20:46 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:20:47 LEAH WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
09:20:49 OFFICER, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, I'M
09:20:53 HONORED TO GIVE YOU A MEMBERSHIP TO TAMPA THEATRE SO YOU
09:20:55 CAN COME AND VISIT US ON FRANKLIN STREET.
09:20:58 CONGRATULATIONS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
09:21:00 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:21:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS JUST TOLD THAT YOU'RE IN D-3.
09:21:15 >> YES, SIR.
09:21:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVICE,
09:21:18 COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
09:21:23 CALL OF DUTY, YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THIS MARK OF
09:21:26 DISTINCTION AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:21:28 BY THE CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL.
09:21:32 YOUR SUPERIORS WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR
09:21:35 DEDICATION AND DILIGENCE.
09:21:36 WE RECOGNIZE YOUR HARD WORK HAS CONTRIBUTED TO KEEPING
09:21:39 FIREARMS OUT OF OUR STREETS, SOLVING CRITICAL OPEN CASES
09:21:44 AND HELPING SAVE A MAN FROM TAKING HIS OWN LIFE.
09:21:46 THIS AWARD IS A SYMBOL OF YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARD
09:21:49 MAKING TAMPA A BETTER, SAFER, AND MORE SECURE PLACE TO
09:21:52 WORK, LIVE AND PLAY.
09:21:55 IT IS THE HONOR OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT
09:22:00 MICHAEL TOWNSEND WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 19th DAY
09:22:03 OF DECEMBER, 2019.
09:22:06 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
09:22:07 >> THANK YOU.
09:22:11 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:22:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:22:16 ANYONE FROM COUNCIL?
09:22:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MIKE, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON.
09:22:24 >> YES, SIR.
09:22:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIDING TOGETHER, LEARNINGS, TRAINING.
09:22:28 SAME THING WITH YOUR SERGEANT BACK THERE, WHEN YOU GUYS
09:22:31 FIRST CAME ON.
09:22:32 BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY, COUNCIL, IS THAT EXPERIENCE IS
09:22:37 THE BEST TEACHER.
09:22:38 I REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU JUST GOT ON, MAYBE JUST
09:22:41 AFTER, MYSELF, KENNY NORRIS WAS DOWN SOUTH.
09:22:45 BJ NELSON, BUT WE HAD A HOUSE, WE HAD A CALL, SIMILAR TO
09:22:50 THAT CALL.
09:22:51 MAN WITH A GUN.
09:22:54 GIRLFRIEND CALLED.
09:22:55 AT THE HOUSE THE GENTLEMAN HAD A 357 IN THE BED WITH A
09:23:00 ZIP TIE AROUND HIS NECK STRUGGLING TO DRIVE, WAVING THAT
09:23:05 357.
09:23:06 THAT'S REALITY, FOLKS.
09:23:08 GOING INTO UNKNOWN SITUATION WITH A GUY WITH A 357.
09:23:13 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT STORY OF GOING INTO THAT HOUSE
09:23:17 WITH THAT SHIELD, THAT BROUGHT FLASHBACK MEMORY OF ME OF
09:23:23 A SITUATION, A LIFE-OR-DEATH SITUATION.
09:23:26 I'M GLAD THAT IT TURNED OUT THE WAY IT TURNED OUT.
09:23:29 GLAD FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
09:23:32 FTO NOW.
09:23:33 I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING HARD.
09:23:34 I KNOW YOUR CHARACTER.
09:23:35 ONE THING CAN I SAY, WHEN GENTLEMEN COME IN AND I WORK
09:23:40 WITH THEM, PEOPLE SAY THINGS ABOUT THE POLICE, I KNOW THE
09:23:42 SERGEANT, I KNOW YOU BECAUSE I WORK YOU AND I KNOW YOUR
09:23:46 CHARACTER.
09:23:46 CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR DAY TODAY.
09:23:49 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
09:23:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR SERVICE.
09:23:53 WE HEAR ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES
09:23:56 TALKED ABOUT, AND WE SALUTE YOU NOT JUST FOR THE COURAGE
09:23:59 THAT IT TOOK TO BE IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO FOR
09:24:02 THE AFTER MATH.
09:24:05 I COULDN'T IMAGINE NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL AFTERMATH OF
09:24:08 ISSUES LIKE THAT BUT THE EMOTIONAL AFTERMATH WHEN YOU PUT
09:24:10 YOURSELF IN DANGER IN DEALING WITH THAT ON A REPETITIVE
09:24:14 DAY-BY-DAY BASIS.
09:24:17 NOT JUST THE INCIDENTS BUT THE RISK OF THE INCIDENTS DAY
09:24:20 AFTER DAY.
09:24:20 WE SALUTE YOU AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE TAMPA
09:24:24 POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERY DAY.
09:24:25 WE'RE THANKFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:24:26 MY BAD.
09:24:34 YOU GO AHEAD.
09:24:39 >> THANK YOU.
09:24:40 IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
09:24:42 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHIEF DUGAN AND MAYOR CASTOR FOR
09:24:45 THEIR SUPPORT ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL AND TPD COMMAND
09:24:48 STAFF.
09:24:49 LISTEN TO THE CHIEF TALK ABOUT THE INCIDENTS THAT I WAS
09:24:51 INVOLVED WITH THAT LED TO ME RECEIVING THIS AWARD.
09:24:54 I BY NO MEANS CAN ACCEPT IT ON MY OWN.
09:24:57 THERE ARE OTHER OFFICERS INVOLVED IN EACH ONE OF THE
09:24:59 INCIDENTS.
09:24:59 I WORK WITH A GREAT TEAM OF OFFICERS IN DISTRICT THREE.
09:25:02 EVERYBODY HAS EACH OTHER'S BACKS AND LOOKS AFTER EACH
09:25:04 OTHER.
09:25:05 FROM MAJOR JOHNSON ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OFFICERS ON
09:25:07 THE STREET, WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.
09:25:08 SPECIAL THANKS TO SERGEANT VALENTINO AND CORPORAL
09:25:13 HARRISON, MY DIRECT SUPERVISION.
09:25:14 THEY ARE ALWAYS PUSHING US TO BE BETTER OFFICERS, BETTER
09:25:16 TRAINERS.
09:25:17 SO FROM ALL OF US IN DISTRICT 3, THANK YOU.
09:25:19 GOD BLESS AMERICA.
09:25:19 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:25:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:25:25 NEXT WE --
09:25:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU GET TO ITEM
09:25:30 NUMBER 2, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE OUR OWN.
09:25:34 I NEED TO RECOGNIZE MS. LUCAS FOR HER ACCOMPLISHMENT LAST
09:25:41 WEEK GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE.
09:25:43 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S GREAT.
09:25:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE RECOGNIZE OUR
09:25:46 HOUSE AS WELL.
09:25:47 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:25:48 IT IS AN HONOR FOR YOU, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR CHILDREN AND
09:25:51 ESPECIALLY FOR THIS COUNCIL.
09:25:53 WE'RE HAPPY FOR YOU.
09:25:54 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL DONE, COUNCILMAN.
09:25:57 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:25:57 WE'RE VERY PROUD OF YOU.
09:26:02 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:26:03 I MEAN THAT.
09:26:04 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:26:07 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY FRIEND SARAH TO COME UP.
09:26:10 I ALSO SEE IN THE AUDIENCE AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR GOOD
09:26:13 FRIENDS, MR. ANDREW WARREN AND MS. JULIE HOLT, OUR STATE
09:26:16 ATTORNEY AND PUBLIC DEFENDER WHO ARE HERE.
09:26:19 I BELIEVE ON THIS ITEM.
09:26:21 SO WE THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
09:26:22 IF YOU ALL WANT TO SAY SOME WORDS AFTERWARDS, WE WOULD BE
09:26:25 HONORED TO HEAR YOU.
09:26:26 SARAH IS THE FLORIDA STATE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE FEES
09:26:29 AND FINES JUSTICE CENTER.
09:26:31 SHE WORKS CLOSELY WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO JUSTICE
09:26:33 SYSTEMS, STAKEHOLDERS AND OTHERS TO ADVOCATE FOR AND
09:26:36 ADVANCE STATE AND LOCAL CAMPAIGNS FOR FEES AND FINES
09:26:39 REFORM, WHICH SHE'LL TALK ABOUT.
09:26:41 SHE'S HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF A BILL SUPPORTED BY FEES
09:26:44 AND FINES JUSTICE CENTER TO ELIMINATE DRIVER'S LICENSE
09:26:47 SUSPENSIONS FOR NONPAYMENT OF MANY DEBTS.
09:26:51 WE ARE ONE OF 40 STATES TO SUSPEND DRIVER'S LICENSE OF
09:26:53 RESIDENTS WHO DON'T PAY COURT-IMPOSED FINES AND FEES.
09:26:57 SARAH IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
09:26:59 IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU.
09:27:00 GO AHEAD.
09:27:01 >> THANK YOU.
09:27:01 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:27:02 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
09:27:03 AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, MY NAME IS SARAH COUTURE.
09:27:07 I AM THE FLORIDA STATE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE FINES AND
09:27:09 FEES JUSTICE CENTER.
09:27:10 I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE OFFICER TOWNSEND FOR HIS AWARD
09:27:14 OF OFFICER OF THE MONTH BEFORE I GOT STARTED.
09:27:17 WHY AM I HERE TODAY?
09:27:19 TO HIGHLIGHT FLORIDA'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE PRACTICE OF
09:27:21 SUSPENDING DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR UNPAID CRIMINAL AND
09:27:24 TRAFFIC COURT DEBT, WHICH IS A PROBLEM, AND WE BELIEVE
09:27:27 THERE ARE SOLUTIONS TO THAT.
09:27:28 FINES AND FEES JUSTICE CENTER.
09:27:37 WE ARE A NATIONAL NONPROFIT AND OUR MISSION IS TO CREATE
09:27:40 A JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT TREATS INDIVIDUALS FAIRLY, ENSURES
09:27:44 PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMUNITY PROSPERITY AND IS FUNDED
09:27:47 EQUITABLY.
09:27:48 IN FLORIDA, AS I SAID, IT IS MYSELF.
09:27:50 I AM BASED HERE IN TAMPA.
09:27:51 AND THEN THE FLORIDA STATE DIRECTOR, HER NAME IS ASHLEY
09:27:54 THOMAS, AND SHE'S BASED IN JACKSONVILLE.
09:27:56 WHY ARE WE WORKING IN FLORIDA?
09:27:59 BECAUSE IN 2017, OVER 117 MILLION SUSPENSION NOTICES,
09:28:05 MAKING UP NEARLY 72% OF ALL SUSPENSION NOTICES ISSUED
09:28:08 THAT YEAR, WERE FOR UNPAID FINES AND FEES.
09:28:11 NOT FOR DANGEROUS DRIVING OR PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS.
09:28:16 IN TOTAL, NEARLY 2 MILLION FLORIDIANS CURRENTLY HAVE A
09:28:20 SUSPENDED DRIVER'S LICENSE.
09:28:22 WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A FINE AND A FEE?
09:28:26 FINES ARE THE MONETARY SANCTION IMPOSED AS PUNISHMENT FOR
09:28:31 VIOLATING THE LAW.
09:28:32 FEES ARE COST ASSESSMENT SURCHARGES IMPOSED TO ACCESS
09:28:37 SERVICES, COMMONLY A USER FEE AND THEN RESTITUTION.
09:28:42 RESTITUTION IS MONEY PAID TO A VICTIM FOR THE ECONOMIC
09:28:44 LOSSES CAUSED BY THE INDIVIDUAL'S CONDUCT.
09:28:49 THIS IS THE BASIS FOR SUSPENSION OF DRIVER'S LICENSES IN
09:28:54 2017.
09:28:55 AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED FAILURE TO PAY, WHICH
09:28:57 WAS 1.1 MILLION OUT OF THE 1.6 MILLION THAT WERE ISSUED.
09:29:02 I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT CHILD SUPPORT, UNPAID
09:29:07 CHILD SUPPORT IS ITS OWN CATEGORY.
09:29:09 SO THE FAILURE TO PAY IS FOR CRIMINAL COURT DEBT AND
09:29:12 TRAFFIC COURT DEBT.
09:29:13 HOW DO FLORIDA COUNTIES COMPARE?
09:29:17 I COULDN'T FIT ALL 67 ON A SLIDE, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE
09:29:21 WE RANK NEXT TO PINELLAS, PALM BEACH, BROWARD, LEON, AND
09:29:26 ORANGE.
09:29:27 SO THERE WERE 91,306 TOTAL SUSPENSION NOTICES ISSUED IN
09:29:33 2017, AND OUT OF THAT, 75% WERE FOR FAILURE TO PAY.
09:29:38 WE RANK NUMBER 14.
09:29:41 WE WANT TO RANK NUMBER 67.
09:29:44 ORANGE COUNTY IS NUMBER ONE.
09:29:46 THAT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE.
09:29:48 I ALSO HAVE ON THE SLIDE THE CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED
09:29:52 FOR DRIVING WHILE LICENSE SUSPENDED THAT YEAR.
09:29:55 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, IT WAS 16,940.
09:29:57 SO YOU CAN SEE THAT PEOPLE STILL CONTINUE TO DRIVE.
09:30:00 THIS IS A COMPARISON OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT SHOWS
09:30:06 YOU WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE SUSPENSION RATES BECAUSE THE
09:30:10 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CLERK PROVIDED US INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS
09:30:14 LEVEL DATA AND COMPARE THAT TO RACE AND POVERTY.
09:30:18 SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY KIND OF LINE UP.
09:30:24 THE MAP SHOWS THAT ZIP CODE 33610 IS THE HIGHEST
09:30:28 SUSPENSION RATE NOTICE IN THE COUNTY.
09:30:31 THEY HAD 11,683 ISSUED.
09:30:34 THAT FALLS IN DISTRICT 5.
09:30:37 FOLLOWED BY ZIP CODE 33612, DISTRICT 7, THEY HAD 10,220
09:30:44 NOTICES ISSUED THAT YEAR.
09:30:46 THE IMPACT OF THE SUSPENSION.
09:30:46 83.7% OF JOBS IN TAMPA BAY WOULD REQUIRE OVER THREE HOURS
09:30:57 OF DAILY COMMUTING IF THEY USED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
09:31:00 30% OF JOBS NATIONWIDE REQUIRE THE USE OF A VEHICLE
09:31:03 DURING WORK, AND WE KNOW THAT MORE AND MORE JOB
09:31:06 APPLICATIONS ARE REQUIRING A DRIVER'S LICENSE AS WELL.
09:31:09 THIS IS AN IMPACTED INDIVIDUAL I WANTED TO SHARE A STORY
09:31:17 ABOUT REAL QUICK.
09:31:18 THIS IS NORTON.
09:31:21 SHE MOVED TO TAMPA A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AFTER BEING
09:31:23 RELEASED FROM PRISON TO START A FRESH LIFE.
09:31:27 SHE TRIED TO FIND JOBS BUT HAD TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE
09:31:31 OR THE JOBS WERE TOO FAR AWAY AND REQUIRED TOO MUCH TIME
09:31:34 ON THE BUS SYSTEM TO GET THERE.
09:31:36 HER DRIVER'S LICENSE IS SUSPENDED BECAUSE OF UNPAID COURT
09:31:40 DEBT OUT OF ESCAMBIA COUNTY.
09:31:44 EVENTUALLY, MS. NORTON BECAME A CLIENT OF ABE BROWN
09:31:47 MINISTRIES AND GOT INVOLVED IN THEIR READY FOR WORK
09:31:50 PROGRAM.
09:31:51 I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT TWO WEEKS AGO SHE GRADUATED FROM
09:31:55 FEEDING TAMPA BAY'S FRESH WORKFORCE INITIATIVE PROGRAM
09:31:58 THAT JUST STARTED.
09:32:01 AS SOON AS SHE WALKED ACROSS THE STAGE, SHE WAS OFFERED A
09:32:03 POSITION AT THE WAWA AT 50th AND COLUMBIA.
09:32:06 HER STORY IS NOT OVER, THOUGH, WITH HER FINES AND FEES.
09:32:11 SHE RECENTLY HAD TO PAY A DOWN PAYMENT OF $896 TO THE
09:32:17 CLERK OF ESCAMBIA COUNTY AS WELL AS A $300 REINSTATEMENT
09:32:20 FEE IN TOTAL TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY AND
09:32:26 SAFETY MOTOR VEHICLES TO GET HER LICENSE BACK.
09:32:28 SHE STILL OWES $821 IN FEES BUT IS NOW ON A REASONABLE
09:32:33 PAYMENT PLAN OF $50 A MONTH THAT SHE CAN AFFORD.
09:32:36 WHAT ARE OTHERS DOING?
09:32:39 IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, MISSISSIPPI, IDAHO, MONTANA, AND
09:32:43 WASHINGTON, D.C. HAVE ALL STOPPED SUSPENDING LICENSES FOR
09:32:46 NONPAYMENT WHILE TEXAS AND VIRGINIA HAVE MADE POSITIVE
09:32:50 CHANGES TO THEIR LAWS AS WELL.
09:32:52 WE HAVE A NATIONAL CAMPAIGN CALLED FREE TO DRIVE, THAT
09:32:55 WAS LAUNCHED ON SEPTEMBER 10th IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THAT
09:32:59 FOCUSES ON THIS ISSUE ON LICENSES SUSPENSIONS NATIONWIDE
09:33:04 AND ENDING THAT PRACTICE.
09:33:05 SOLUTIONS FOR FLORIDA, WE HAVE HOUSE BILL 903 WHICH WAS
09:33:11 RECENTLY FILED THAT ADDRESSES WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE
09:33:15 ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM.
09:33:16 IT ELIMINATES USING DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSIONS FOR
09:33:19 UNPAID FINES AND FEES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME CREATING A
09:33:24 UNIFORM REASONABLE PAYMENT PLAN PROCESS.
09:33:27 THERE ARE CURRENTLY 67 DIFFERENT PAYMENT PLANS THROUGHOUT
09:33:31 THE STATE, AND THEY HAVE WILDLY DIFFERENT PROVISIONS.
09:33:35 SO YOU CAN GO FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND GET A PAYMENT
09:33:38 PLAN WITH OUR CLERK, AND IF YOU OWE THE PINELLAS COUNTY
09:33:41 CLERK, GO OVER THERE AND THE PROVISIONS OF THE PAYMENT
09:33:45 PLAN WILL BE WILDLY DIFFERENT.
09:33:46 THE KEY HERE IS NOT ONLY THE UNIFORMITY, BUT THE
09:33:50 REASONABLENESS.
09:33:52 THEIR STATUTE IN PLACE THAT THE PAYMENT PLANS ARE
09:33:55 SUPPOSED TO BE NO MORE THAN 2% OF SOMEONE'S ANNUAL
09:34:00 INCOME, AND THAT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING.
09:34:02 SO WE'VE PUT A "MUST" IN FRONT OF THAT.
09:34:05 SO THEY WILL HOPEFULLY DO THAT.
09:34:08 OUR CAMPAIGN HERE IN FLORIDA IS CALLED "DRIVING SUCCESS."
09:34:11 THIS IS A LIST OF SOME OF OUR SUPPORTERS.
09:34:13 YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE UBER, FLORIDA POLICY INSTITUTE,
09:34:17 AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY, FLORIDA, THE ACLU, FLORIDA, AND
09:34:21 TODAY I HAVE A COUPLE OF OUR LOCAL OFFICIALS AS WELL,
09:34:24 ANDREW WARREN, STATE ATTORNEY, AND PUBLIC DEFENDER JULIE
09:34:27 HOLT, WHO I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE UP TO MAKE BRIEF
09:34:31 COMMENTS, IF THEY WOULD LIKE.
09:34:36 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:34:37 I'M ANDREW WARREN.
09:34:38 IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS STATE ATTORNEY FOR
09:34:42 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:34:42 THANK YOU, SARAH, FOR BEING HERE.
09:34:44 OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
09:34:47 HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO REDUCE THE CRIMINALIZATION OF
09:34:49 POVERTY.
09:34:49 THE SAD REALITY IS THAT WE TRACK PEOPLE IN OUR CRIMINAL
09:34:54 JUSTICE SYSTEM SOLELY BECAUSE THEY ARE POOR.
09:34:56 IN THE BEST EXAMPLE, OR RATHER ONE OF THE WORST EXAMPLES,
09:35:00 IS OUR POLICY ON DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSIONS.
09:35:03 AS SARASOTA -- AS SARAH SAID, OVER 2 MILLION PEOPLE IN
09:35:10 FLORIDA HAVE SUSPENDED LICENSES.
09:35:13 NEARLY 70% HAVE TO DO WITH INABILITY OR FAILURE TO PAY
09:35:16 FINES AND FEES, MANY OF WHICH ARE CIVIL FINES AND FEES.
09:35:20 ONLY A SMALL FRACTION OF THE SUSPENSIONS HAVE TO DO WITH
09:35:23 TRAFFIC SAFETY.
09:35:24 OUR POLICY IS INEFFECTIVE.
09:35:27 IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SUCCEED IN MAKING PEOPLE PAY THE
09:35:29 FINES THAT THEY OWE, BUT EVEN WORSE, IT'S
09:35:32 COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
09:35:33 IT DESTABILIZES PEOPLE AND FAMILIES LIVING ON THE
09:35:36 ECONOMIC MARGINS OF SOCIETY.
09:35:38 IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO WORK, WHICH MAKES
09:35:42 IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS.
09:35:44 HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR KIDS TO AND FROM DAY CARE.
09:35:47 HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS.
09:35:50 NOT ONLY THAT, THIS PROBLEM, THIS POLICY ACTUALLY WORSENS
09:35:55 THE CYCLE OF POVERTY AND INCARCERATION THAT WE SEE EVERY
09:35:59 DAY IN THE SYSTEM, AND THERE ARE HUGE RACIAL DISPARITIES
09:36:02 IN HOW THIS AFFECTS OUR CITIZENS.
09:36:05 SMART JUSTICE IS ALL ABOUT FINDING SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS,
09:36:10 AND THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN SOLVE.
09:36:12 I'M PROUD TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION.
09:36:15 I WAS HONORED TO HAVE BEEN INVITED TO SPEAK AT
09:36:18 SEPTEMBER 10th WHEN THE FREE TO DRIVE CAMPAIGN WAS
09:36:23 LAUNCHED IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
09:36:24 I URGE THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AT A
09:36:28 STATEWIDE LEVEL.
09:36:29 THANK YOU.
09:36:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. WARREN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
09:36:35 YOU MENTIONED INCARCERATION.
09:36:37 I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK, ESPECIALLY HAVING BEEN PART OF
09:36:39 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR MANY YEARS, HAVE YOU GUYS
09:36:43 ANALYZED HOW MUCH IT COSTS WHEN SOMEBODY GETS PULLED
09:36:47 OVER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ARE DWLS MULTIPLE TIMES, THEN
09:36:54 OFFICERS REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO ARREST THEM.
09:36:58 THEY ARE INCARCERATED IN JAIL FOR HOW LONG, A WEEK UNTIL
09:37:02 IT GETS SORTED OUT, MAYBE A COUPLE OF WEEKS IF IT'S AT
09:37:04 THE FELONY LEVEL.
09:37:06 WHAT ARE THOSE EXPENSES TO OUR SOCIETY FOR GOING THROUGH
09:37:10 NOT ONLY THE OFFICER'S EXPENSE BUT THEN THE JAIL AND
09:37:13 FEEDING PEOPLE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, JUST TO LET THEM GO
09:37:16 AGAIN.
09:37:17 >> COUNCILMAN, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
09:37:19 IT IS A HUGE COST IN TERMS OF A WASTE OF TAXPAYER
09:37:23 RESOURCES BOTH IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND THE
09:37:25 TIME OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO COULD BE OUT
09:37:28 DOING THINGS THAT ACTUALLY SAFEGUARD THE COMMUNITY
09:37:30 BETTER.
09:37:31 THE REAL COST IS ON THAT PERSON AND HIS OR HER FAMILY.
09:37:35 WHEN WE TAKE SOMEONE FOR A SUSPENDED DRIVER'S LICENSE,
09:37:41 WHICH RESULTED FROM A FAILURE TO PAY A TRAFFIC TICKET,
09:37:44 FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN THEY GET ARRESTED AND PUT INTO THE
09:37:46 SYSTEM AND THEN THEY END UP LOSING THE JOB THAT THEY WERE
09:37:49 DRIVING TO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE MONEY TO PAY THE BILLS TO
09:37:57 PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND KEEP THE ELECTRICITY ON, WE ARE
09:37:59 PUSHING PEOPLE INTO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WHICH
09:38:01 MAKES OUR COMMUNITY LESS SAFE.
09:38:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
09:38:05 >> WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE FLORIDA POLICY
09:38:10 INSTITUTE AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PARTNERS TO LOOK AT
09:38:13 DIFFERENT FISCAL IMPACTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE COST TO THE
09:38:19 COMMUNITY FOR HOUSING, THE COST OF THE TIME OF AN
09:38:22 OFFICER, THAT IT TAKES THEM TO PULL SOMEONE OVER, WRITE
09:38:29 THE CITATION AND TAKE THEM TO JAIL.
09:38:31 THAT IS BEING ANALYZED.
09:38:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOME PEOPLE LISTENING SADLY ENOUGH
09:38:34 MIGHT NOT CARE ABOUT THE PERSONAL IMPACTS THAT MR. WARREN
09:38:37 MENTIONED.
09:38:37 >> CORRECT.
09:38:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT THE SAME PEOPLE MIGHT CARE ABOUT
09:38:39 THE FISCAL IMPACTS ON THEIR OWN POCKETBOOK IN TERMS OF
09:38:43 THE TAXES THEY ARE PAYING.
09:38:45 >> CORRECT, YES.
09:38:47 THANK YOU.
09:38:47 I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE TODAY BY MENTIONING OUR DRIVING ON
09:38:51 EMPTY REPORT THAT WAS RECENTLY RELEASED.
09:38:53 I HAVE A COPY FOR EACH OF YOU THAT I'LL HAND TO
09:38:55 MR. SHELBY TO PASS AROUND SHORTLY.
09:38:59 ALSO, THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY, WE ARE GOING TO RELEASE
09:39:02 INTERACTIVE MAPS.
09:39:04 SO IT TAKES ALL OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM THE DMV.
09:39:09 IT TAKES CENSUS DATA WHEN IT COMES TO POVERTY, RACE, AND
09:39:14 ALSO MEDIAN INCOME.
09:39:16 AND IT GOES THROUGH A SERIES OF MAPS, AND IT SHOWS YOU
09:39:21 HOW ALL OF THOSE KIND OF CORRELATE WITH EACH OTHER.
09:39:24 SO THOSE WILL BE RELEASED AS WELL.
09:39:27 WE'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER JOINING THE LIST OF SUPPORTERS
09:39:29 THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER TODAY TO END THE FAILED
09:39:32 PRACTICE OF DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSION FOR NONPAYMENT OF
09:39:35 FINES AND FEES.
09:39:36 THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU
09:39:38 ALL TODAY.
09:39:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:39:41 MS. HOLT, YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, MA'AM?
09:39:44 >> I'M FINE, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:39:47 I'M HERE OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF THE LEGISLATION.
09:39:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:39:50 I KNOW COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WANTS TO SPEAK.
09:39:53 SARAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:39:54 YOU'RE A FRIEND.
09:39:56 I KNOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED AT THE COURTHOUSE FOR MANY
09:39:59 YEARS BEFORE THIS.
09:40:00 YOU'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND SOME OF THESE INJUSTICE HAPPEN.
09:40:03 SOMETHING STRUCK OUT AT ME THAT I DIDN'T SEE, SO
09:40:05 MISSISSIPPI HAS ENDED THIS POLICY?
09:40:07 >> YES.
09:40:08 NOW, THE GOVERNOR OF MISSISSIPPI --
09:40:11 >>LUIS VIERA: MISSISSIPPI.
09:40:13 >> YES.
09:40:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MISSISSIPPI AND NOT FLORIDA.
09:40:15 I ALWAYS SAY THE JOKE THAT WE HAVE THE POPULATION FROM
09:40:16 THE CALIFORNIA AND THE LEGISLATURE FROM MISSISSIPPI.
09:40:18 BUT APPARENTLY I'VE BEEN PROVEN WRONG ON THIS ISSUE.
09:40:22 >> IT WAS THEIR GOVERNOR WHO SPEARHEADED THAT CAMPAIGN.
09:40:25 >>LUIS VIERA: MY HAT IS OFF TO MISSISSIPPI IN THAT
09:40:27 REGARD.
09:40:27 YOU KNOW, I SALUTE YOU FOR THIS.
09:40:30 OBVIOUSLY, I'LL BE PUTTING FORWARD SOMETHING AT THE END
09:40:32 TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE.
09:40:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
09:40:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
09:40:41 THEY RESPONDED TO DISTRICT 7.
09:40:42 OFTEN, SARAH, WE DO THINGS, THIS IS A SOCIETY, AGAIN AND
09:40:46 AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH NEGATIVE RESULTS.
09:40:48 AND SOMEONE POINTS IT OUT AND GOES, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
09:40:51 THIS IS WRONG.
09:40:51 THIS IS IMMORAL.
09:40:52 THIS FEEDS TO A CYCLE OF INJUSTICE."
09:40:55 WE GET RID OF IT AND GO, "BOY, WHY DID WE DO THAT IN THE
09:40:59 FIRST PLACE?"
09:41:01 WE LOOK BACK ON IT 50 YEARS LATER, HOW COULD WE EVER DO
09:41:04 THAT?
09:41:04 I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
09:41:05 THIS IS A POLICY THAT IS PUNITIVE.
09:41:07 IT'S PART OF THE MISERY INDUSTRY.
09:41:09 LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE MR. WARREN SAID, IT'S SOMETHING THAT
09:41:12 RECYCLES MISERY.
09:41:14 IT RECYCLES AND EVOLVES TO WORSE-LEVEL POVERTY.
09:41:17 YOU JUST THINK ABOUT, YOU ARE A PERSON WHO GETS HIS OR
09:41:20 HERSELF A TICKET, 150 BUCKS, YOU CAN'T PAY IT.
09:41:24 YOU CAN'T PAY IT, SO YOU CAN'T DRIVE.
09:41:26 YOU CAN'T DRIVE, SO YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR KID TO THE DOCTOR
09:41:28 OR SCHOOL.
09:41:29 YOU CAN'T DRIVE SO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS AT WORK.
09:41:31 YOU HAVE TO DRIVE BECAUSE OF AN EMERGENCY, YOU GET PULLED
09:41:35 OVER, YOU GET YOURSELF ARRESTED.
09:41:36 YOU LOSE YOUR JOB.
09:41:38 YOU'VE GOT A CRIMINAL RECORD.
09:41:40 THAT MISERY EVOLVES AND GOES FORWARD AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
09:41:44 AGAIN.
09:41:44 THIS IS A POLICY THAT IS UGLY.
09:41:46 IT'S VERY, VERY UGLY.
09:41:47 IT'S UGLY IN HOW IT TREATS PEOPLE.
09:41:49 IT'S UGLY IN HOW IT CRIMINALIZES AND AFFECTS POVERTY.
09:41:54 IT IS DRACONIAN IN THE SENSE THAT THERE IS NO CAUSAL
09:41:56 CONNECTION OR RELATIONSHIP WHATSOEVER BETWEEN THIS POLICY
09:42:00 AND SUPPORTING ANY SORT OF RATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TYPE OF
09:42:04 INITIATIVE.
09:42:05 THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WHATSOEVER WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE,
09:42:07 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, FRANKLY, SETS PEOPLE BACK
09:42:12 110%.
09:42:14 CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THESE FEES FUND OUR COURT
09:42:17 SYSTEM, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:42:19 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
09:42:19 THAT WAS A CHANGE THAT HAPPENED IN 1998.
09:42:22 FLORIDA VOTERS VOTED FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
09:42:25 IT'S KNOWN AS REVISION 7.
09:42:28 IT'S TO ARTICLE V OF OUR CONSTITUTION THAT REQUIRES THE
09:42:32 FUNDING FOR THE COURT FUNCTIONS OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO
09:42:36 BE GENERATED BY THESE FEES.
09:42:40 PREVIOUSLY, THEY WERE PAID FOR BY THE COUNTY.
09:42:43 AND NOW IT'S THESE FEES.
09:42:45 >>LUIS VIERA: AS AN ATTORNEY AND OFFICER OF THE COURT, I
09:42:47 FIND THAT OFFENSIVE, AND I FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, TO QUOTE
09:42:51 ALANIS MORISSETTE, "IRONIC."
09:42:54 I REALLY THINK IT IS, 110%.
09:42:56 WE SHOULD MAKE CHANGES IN THIS 110%.
09:42:59 NOW, DO WE HAVE A SPONSOR OF THIS HOUSE BILL YET?
09:43:02 >> WE DO.
09:43:02 IT'S REPRESENTATIVE BYRON DONALDS FROM NAPLES.
09:43:04 I FAILED TO MENTION, AND I APOLOGIZE, WE HAVE A SENATE
09:43:07 BILL.
09:43:07 IT'S NOT FILED YET.
09:43:09 IT'S SITTING IN DRAFTING.
09:43:10 WE'RE WAITING FOR IT TO BE FILED AT ANY MOMENT.
09:43:13 THAT'S GOING TO BE SENATOR WRIGHT.
09:43:14 HE'S FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY.
09:43:17 SO THEY WILL BE CARRYING THOSE BILLS, THEIR COMPANION
09:43:22 BILLS.
09:43:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIPARTISAN PIECE OF
09:43:25 LEGISLATION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A
09:43:26 REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT NECESSARILY TO TAKE A LOOK AT
09:43:30 THE GROSS INJUSTICE AND THE UGLY INJUSTICE THAT THIS TYPE
09:43:33 OF A SYSTEM FEEDS.
09:43:35 BUT PARTICULARLY, AGAIN, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ISSUE
09:43:38 OF THIS FEEDING THE COURT SYSTEM.
09:43:39 THAT'S VERY, VERY IRONIC.
09:43:41 I THINK THAT PEOPLE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, WHICH
09:43:43 IS A COURT SYSTEM THAT GROWS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
09:43:46 SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THIS UNJUST POLICY FUNDS THAT SYSTEM.
09:43:52 THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IRONIC.
09:43:54 I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
09:43:57 I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS REGARD.
09:43:59 I KNOW YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
09:44:01 WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT A LOT.
09:44:04 WE SEE YOUR PASSION AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:44:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IT APPEARS THAT WE AS A SOCIETY
09:44:12 ARE IN AN ENDLESS WAR AGAINST POOR PEOPLE.
09:44:14 INSTEAD OF SAYING YOU HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED, YOU HAVE
09:44:16 BEEN PUNISHED, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
09:44:17 IT'S, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP YOU DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP
09:44:19 YOU ON YOUR KNEES.
09:44:21 GOING BACK TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS, RED LIGHT
09:44:23 CAMERAS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE
09:44:25 APPROVED AND WHY I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST IT, YOU GIVE
09:44:28 SOMEBODY A TICKET, A FINE, AND THAT HUNDRED AND SOMETHING
09:44:32 DOLLARS WILL SET BACK A WORKING PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW
09:44:35 LONG.
09:44:35 THIS WOMAN THAT YOU SHOWCASE, WHO WAS EMPLOYED BY WAWA,
09:44:38 WHO IS NOW ON A PAYMENT PLAN, EVEN IF IT'S $50 A MONTH,
09:44:43 SHE'S NOT MAKING A LOT OF MONEY AT WAWA.
09:44:45 THAT $50 COULD GO A LONG WAY.
09:44:48 ONCE YOU ADD IT UP, IT'S OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FEES
09:44:50 AND FINES.
09:44:51 800 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS.
09:44:53 THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
09:44:54 THAT COULD MEAN PAYING THE ELECTRIC BILL, CHRISTMAS
09:44:57 PRESENTS UNDER THE TREE NOW THAT WE'RE IN THE SEASON.
09:44:59 FOOD ON THE TABLE, WHATEVER IT IS.
09:45:02 WHY DO WE DEMONIZE THE POOR?
09:45:03 SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE ARRESTED FOR
09:45:06 FEEDING FOLKS THAT ARE HOUSELESS, HOMELESS, THE POOR,
09:45:11 WHATEVER.
09:45:11 THIS IS 2019, YET WE HAVE SUCH DRACONIAN BACKWARDS
09:45:17 THINKING ON SO MANY THINGS.
09:45:19 FEES AND FINES, IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING TAXATION
09:45:24 WITHOUT SAYING TAXATION.
09:45:26 BUT WHY THE CONTINUOUS PUNISHMENT OF PEOPLE?
09:45:29 PEOPLE THAT NEED A CAR, FOR EXAMPLE, TO GO TO WORK, TO
09:45:31 PAY THE RENT, TO PAY THE BILLS NOW GET THAT TAKEN AWAY.
09:45:35 ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA WITH INADEQUATE TRANSIT SYSTEM.
09:45:38 TAKING A BUS AND GOING FROM ONE POINT OF TOWN TO THE
09:45:41 OTHER COULD TAKE YOU TWO AND THREE HOURS.
09:45:43 YOU COULD LOSE YOUR JOB.
09:45:45 YOU MAY NOT BE EMPLOYED BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
09:45:47 LICENSE, EVERYTHING YOU TOUCHED UPON.
09:45:49 WHY CAN'T WE BE MORE COMPASSIONATE AS A SOCIETY AND SAY
09:45:52 WE WANT TO LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY?
09:45:54 TALK ABOUT THE WAR ON POVERTY BUT IT IS A WAR AGAINST
09:45:56 POOR PEOPLE, IT IS.
09:45:57 I TALKED TO PEOPLE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN
09:46:00 INVOLVED POLITICALLY.
09:46:01 I REMEMBER WHEN THE PANHANDLING BAN ISSUE CAME UP WITH
09:46:05 COUNCIL BEFORE I GOT ELECTED.
09:46:06 I SPOKE TO A MAN AT KENNEDY AND DALE MABRY THAT WAS
09:46:10 ASKING FOR MONEY WHEN FOLKS WERE STOPPED AT A LIGHT.
09:46:13 I ASKED TO HEAR HIS STORY.
09:46:15 HOW DO YOU GET HERE?
09:46:17 WHAT HAPPENED?
09:46:17 HE SAID I'M COLLEGE EDUCATED.
09:46:19 I WENT THROUGH A DIVORCE.
09:46:20 THE MARKET TANKED.
09:46:22 I LOST MY HOUSE.
09:46:23 I LOST MY JOB.
09:46:24 IT'S A SPIRAL.
09:46:25 SO GOING BACK TO THIS, FOLKS THAT ARE PUNISHED, THEN THEY
09:46:29 GET THEIR LICENSES TAKEN AWAY.
09:46:31 THEN THEY GET THE FINES AND THE PENALTIES.
09:46:32 IT'S LIKE THEY CAN NEVER CLIMB OUT OF THE HOLE THAT THEY
09:46:37 ARE PUT IN AND BECOME NOT JUST PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF
09:46:41 SOCIETY, BUT RESPECTABLE, DECENT HUMAN BEINGS AS THEY
09:46:44 DESERVE TO BE TREATED.
09:46:45 WE CAN'T CONTINUOUSLY PUNISH PEOPLE, WHAT IS THIS?
09:46:48 I KNOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
09:46:51 PERHAPS YOUNGER GENERATIONS THAT ARE NOW GETTING INVOLVED
09:46:54 POLITICALLY AND WHATNOT ARE GETTING ELECTED.
09:46:56 WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND THE MIND-SET HAS
09:46:59 SHIFTED.
09:47:00 WE ARE STILL SO FAR BEYOND.
09:47:02 I THINK THE PHRASE IS, THANK GOD FOR MISSISSIPPI, BECAUSE
09:47:05 THERE IS BAD AND THEN THERE'S MISSISSIPPI.
09:47:07 NOW IT'S SHIFTED THAT MISSISSIPPI IS AHEAD OF FLORIDA.
09:47:09 I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS SPONSORED -- YOU HAVE A SPONSOR --
09:47:14 THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT YOU NAMED AND I HOPE IT MOVES
09:47:17 FORWARD.
09:47:17 I HOPE IT MOVES FORWARD IN A BIPARTISAN WAY BECAUSE,
09:47:20 AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC ISSUE.
09:47:23 THAT IS HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE, A COMPASSIONATE, COMMONSENSE
09:47:27 ISSUE.
09:47:27 I'M GLAD THAT YOU ARE HERE.
09:47:28 THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
09:47:29 THANK YOU, STATE ATTORNEY WARREN FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND WE
09:47:33 APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
09:47:34 THANK YOU.
09:47:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS A GREAT START, BUT, YOU KNOW,
09:47:41 PERSON WHO HAS INCARCERATED PEOPLE, PEOPLE COME OUT AND
09:47:49 THEY HAVE THESE PROBATIONARY FEES EVERY MONTH.
09:47:53 I ALWAYS WONDER, IF I WAS IN PRISON FOR 15 YEARS, AND I
09:47:58 GET OUT, WHO HIRES ME AND HOW CAN I PAY MY PROBATION
09:48:01 OFFICER?
09:48:02 I GET A TECHNICAL VIOLATION AND I GO BACK TO PRISON ALL
09:48:11 BECAUSE I COULD NOT GET A JOB BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD HIRE
09:48:14 ME.
09:48:14 RESTITUTION IS DIFFERENT.
09:48:18 BUT PROBATION, I THINK, WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING A DOLLAR TO
09:48:22 SAY YOU MUST PAY THIS EVERY MONTH TO COME SEE SOMEONE, TO
09:48:25 REPORT IN, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO PAY, BUT I GET A
09:48:29 VIOLATION.
09:48:29 I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES AS WELL.
09:48:34 HOPEFULLY THEY ARE FORTHCOMING TO MAYBE DOWN THE LINE BE
09:48:36 A PART OF THIS.
09:48:37 I'M NOT A PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, BUT IF I WAS, I
09:48:41 WOULD BE LOOKING TO CRAFT A BILL FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW
09:48:43 THE INJUSTICE THAT BRINGS TO POOR PEOPLE, MIDDLE INCOME
09:48:46 PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THEM.
09:48:48 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND GIVING US THIS INFORMATION
09:48:50 THIS MORNING.
09:48:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MISSED THE BEGINNING OF THIS, BUT
09:48:56 ARE WE DOING A RESOLUTION?
09:48:57 >>LUIS VIERA: AT THE END.
09:48:58 MORE THAN HAPPY.
09:49:02 >> I NOTICED SOMETHING I WANTED TO POINT OUT ABOUT THE
09:49:04 REPORT.
09:49:04 YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE TABLE OF CONTENTS IT REFERS TO CASE
09:49:08 STUDIES.
09:49:09 THERE WAS A PRINTING ERROR.
09:49:11 THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS HARD COPY.
09:49:13 AS SOON AS I GET BACK TO MY OFFICE, I'M GOING TO E-MAIL
09:49:15 THAT SEPARATE DOCUMENT TO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S AIDE TO
09:49:19 DISTRIBUTE TO YOU ALL.
09:49:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SARAH.
09:49:21 ANYONE ELSE?
09:49:21 I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE DISTRICT
09:49:25 BREAKDOWN FOR DISTRICTS ON THAT.
09:49:26 I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT SO WE CAN
09:49:29 SEE HOW THIS PARTICULARLY AND ACUTELY AFFECTS OUR
09:49:32 DISTRICTS.
09:49:32 I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT THAT SARAH HAD
09:49:36 MENTIONED ABE BROWN MINISTRIES.
09:49:38 I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN IT COMES TO FIGHTING THE CAUSES
09:49:40 OF CRIME AND STANDING UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND STANDING UP
09:49:43 FOR DECENCY, ABE BROWN MINISTRIES IS ALWAYS ON THE FRONT
09:49:55 LINE.
09:49:55 SO GOD BLESS THEM VERY MUCH.
09:49:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:57 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
09:49:55 I'LL BE MAKING THAT MOTION, SARAH, AT THE END WHEN MOTION
09:49:58 TIME COMES.
09:49:58 I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT YOU STICK AROUND UNTIL THE END.
09:50:01 BUT IF YOU WANT TO YOU MAY.
09:50:02 NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:50:04 IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO COMMENT PUBLICLY ON AN ITEM ON THE
09:50:08 AGENDA, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
09:50:09 THREE MINUTES A PERSON.
09:50:21 >> MENTESNOT.
09:50:23 I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT STANDING WHEN THE GENTLEMAN
09:50:29 GAVE THE INVOCATION BECAUSE IT WAS THE BEST INVOCATION
09:50:34 EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY COUNCIL PROCESS SINCE
09:50:39 I'VE BEEN HERE.
09:50:42 AND THE FOLLOW-UP TO THAT, ALL THE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON
09:50:48 INSIDE THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND AMONGST POOR AND WORKING
09:50:53 CLASS PEOPLE.
09:50:54 IT SEEMS LIKE SOCIETY IS ADVANCING IN A CERTAIN WAY THAT
09:51:03 IS TAKING THESE THINGS AND THESE ISSUES A LITTLE MORE
09:51:06 SERIOUS.
09:51:06 BUT IF YOU STEP OUTSIDE THE CITY COUNCIL BUILDING, WHAT
09:51:11 YOU WOULD SEE IS HOMELESSNESS IN ITS WORSE FORM.
09:51:15 SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
09:51:17 EVERYONE IS TALKING LIKE THEY ARE DISCUSSING THESE
09:51:22 ISSUES, BUT IT'S NOT MOVING FORWARD.
09:51:26 SOCIETY AND THE RULING CLASS ARE EVOLVING WAYS ON HOW TO
09:51:31 MAINTAIN POPULATIONS AND HOW TO CONTROL POPULATIONS.
09:51:34 SO NOW IT'S A STRUGGLE IN EXACTLY HOW PUNISHMENT IS GOING
09:51:41 TO BE CARRIED OUT.
09:51:42 SO IT SEEMS LIKE IF THERE'S REFORM BUT IN REALITY IT'S
09:51:45 NOT.
09:51:46 ALL THE DRIVER'S LICENSE, CRIMINALIZATION, FEES AND
09:51:51 FINES, COURT COSTS, MARIJUANA CHARGES, MILLIONS OF
09:51:59 AFRICAN PEOPLE LOCKED UP FOR THOSE SPECIFIC REASONS.
09:52:06 APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION AT ANY GIVEN TIME TIED TO THAT
09:52:10 SYSTEM, PROBATION, PAROLE, INCARCERATION, HOUSE ARREST,
09:52:16 ALL THESE THINGS GOING ON.
09:52:17 AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ISN'T REFORM.
09:52:21 THEY JUST EVOLVE IN SOCIETY IN WAYS TO CARRY OUT THE
09:52:28 HATRED AND SPECIFICALLY THE RACIAL HATRED THAT'S BEEN
09:52:31 GOING ON FOR 600 YEARS.
09:52:34 THAT HAS TO STOP.
09:52:35 ALL THIS TALK THAT'S GOING ON IN HERE AND ALL THIS TALK
09:52:39 THAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THIS CITY AND THE GENTRIFICATION
09:52:42 AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT, IT JUST GOES OWN.
09:52:44 BECAUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALL THE
09:52:48 AWARDS AND ACCOLADES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SOMETHING IN
09:52:52 SOMEONE THAT'S MISSING.
09:52:53 AND THAT'S THE MAYOR.
09:52:56 YOU NEVER SEE ANY LEADERSHIP IN HERE.
09:52:59 AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S HANDS ARE TIED.
09:53:01 IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO MENTESNOT OR KRUNKMAN'S
09:53:11 Facebook PAGE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS TALK ABOUT, BUT A
09:53:13 LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH.
09:53:16 THIS CITY COUNCIL, THE CONVERSATION IS GOOD BUT IT'S
09:53:18 REALLY TIME TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING.
09:53:21 THE PAIN IS REAL.
09:53:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:53:24 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:53:28 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:53:29 GERALDINE ROGERS TOMBS.
09:53:33 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL HARM IMPOSED ON OUR
09:53:38 CHILDREN, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS IF ROUNDABOUTS ARE
09:53:42 INSTALLED ON 34th STREET.
09:53:44 ON DECEMBER 6, 2019, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SHARED
09:53:48 INFORMATION FROM ONE STUDY THAT SUPPORTS THE CITY'S
09:53:51 DECISION ON ROUNDABOUTS.
09:53:52 HOWEVER, THERE ARE MANY OTHER STUDIES THAT DON'T SUPPORT
09:53:55 THAT POSITION.
09:53:57 A THOROUGH ANALYSIS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO DETERMINE IF IT
09:54:00 IS APPROPRIATE TO PUT ROUNDABOUTS AT LOCATIONS WITH A
09:54:04 HIGH CONCENTRATION OF CHILDREN.
09:54:07 THIS PARTICULAR ARTICLE, THE OTHER SIDE OF ROUNDABOUTS
09:54:11 CRASHES.
09:54:12 ROUNDABOUTS ARE EASY TO LOVE.
09:54:14 THEY ARE ELEGANT IN DESIGN, REDUCE TRAFFIC DEATHS
09:54:17 COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL INTERSECTIONS AND CAN SUPPORT
09:54:21 SOME GNARLY PUBLIC ART.
09:54:24 BUT AMERICANS HATE THEM ANYWAY.
09:54:26 ONE REASON MAY BE BECOMING CLEARER.
09:54:31 WHILE ROUNDABOUTS ARE GREAT AT PREVENTING SERIOUS
09:54:34 CRASHES, THEY MAY BRING ON MORE NONFATAL WRECKS TO
09:54:37 BELIEVE THE LATEST IN TRAFFIC CIRCLE RESEARCH COMING FROM
09:54:41 THE ROUNDABOUT RESERVE OF WISCONSIN.
09:54:45 I'M SORRY.
09:54:46 I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.
09:54:47 PAST MONITORING OF 30 OF THE STATE'S 300 PLUS ROUNDABOUTS
09:54:52 REVEAL THESE PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS WHICH USED TO BE
09:54:56 TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROLLED, EXPERIENCED A 38% DROP IN CAR
09:54:59 DEATHS AND INJURIES, AT THE SAME TIME THE TOTAL NUMBER OF
09:55:02 CRASHES JUMPED 12%.
09:55:05 AND I HAVE ANOTHER LIST OF DIFFERENT ARTICLES AND REPORTS
09:55:09 THAT SUPPORTS THE POSITION THAT ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN
09:55:13 KNOWN TO HAVE MORE CRASHES AT THOSE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS,
09:55:17 NOT ONLY THAT, YOU ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO EVALUATE
09:55:22 FROM WHAT GOES ON HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:55:26 DOING RESEARCH, YOU SAY THERE ARE 27 ROUNDABOUTS IN TAMPA
09:55:29 OR 28, HOWEVER, YOUR MAP SHOWS THAT THERE ARE A
09:55:36 DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF ROUNDABOUTS IN EAST TAMPA.
09:55:40 I THINK ABOUT 10 OF THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE ON PRIVATE ROADS.
09:55:44 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR
09:55:47 ROUNDABOUTS ON PRIVATE ROADS?
09:55:50 THEN THERE'S ANOTHER FIVE, I THINK, IN EAST TAMPA.
09:55:55 THAT'S ABOUT 40% OF THEM IN EAST TAMPA.
09:55:57 WHY ARE YOU PUTTING OUR CHILDREN AT RISK?
09:55:59 AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO EVALUATE, NOT ONLY THAT,
09:56:03 THERE'S AN ARTICLE -- SOME ARTICLES THAT WERE PUBLISHED
09:56:06 IN 2018 THAT STATED THE 10-MOST DEADLY INTERSECTIONS
09:56:13 CERTAINLY WEREN'T EVEN ON 34th STREET.
09:56:16 THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU ALL NEED TO BE EVALUATING TO
09:56:19 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THINGS ARE BEING DONE IN A JUST
09:56:23 AND FAIR WAY.
09:56:24 MY PURPOSE HERE IS TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AND TO
09:56:28 ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE YOU KNOW
09:56:30 THE PLAN CAN BE MODIFIED.
09:56:32 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:56:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:56:35 WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:56:36 >> MAY I LEAVE THESE TWO WITH YOU SO YOU ALL CAN REVIEW
09:56:39 THEM AT A LATER DAY?
09:56:41 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
09:56:42 PASS THEM DOWN TO OUR ATTORNEY.
09:56:44 WE'D LOVE TO SEE THEM.
09:56:46 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
09:56:47 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:56:48 >> AGAIN, REVEREND DR. RUSSELL MEYER.
09:56:51 THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, FOR INVITING ME TODAY.
09:56:57 I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE FINES AND FEES PRESENTATION, WHICH
09:57:03 I THOUGHT WAS EXCELLENT.
09:57:05 I THINK THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE EXCELLENT.
09:57:09 THE FLORIDA COUNCIL OF CHURCHES IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN A
09:57:14 CRIMINAL JUSTICE CAMPAIGN AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE CAMPAIGN,
09:57:18 AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF THING THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
09:57:23 IT'S A GREAT INTERSECTION.
09:57:25 THE TWO CHURCHES I SERVE, ST. PAUL LUTHERAN ACROSS FROM
09:57:28 HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, AND FAITH LUTHERAN ON NORTH
09:57:32 FLORIDA AVENUE SORT OF BRACKET THE URBAN CORE THAT RUNS
09:57:37 ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE, WHERE THE CORE OF THAT IS.
09:57:41 THE MEDIAN INCOME IN OUR PARISH, WHICH IS FOUR ZIP CODE
09:57:50 AREAS THERE, RUNS FROM 25,000 TO JUST UNDER 31,000.
09:57:55 SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FAMILY IN POVERTY OR A FAMILY
09:58:00 WITH A USED CAR.
09:58:04 WHEN THE PUBLIC MUNICIPAL STRUCTURE DEPENDS ON ITS FEES
09:58:15 BY DRAWING OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE IN AN UNJUST
09:58:21 SITUATION.
09:58:21 BUT AT THE HEART OF WHERE THIS UNJUSTICE COMES FROM IS
09:58:28 THE WAY OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS WE HAVE SAID THE MINIMUM
09:58:32 WAGE DOESN'T HAVE TO GROW WITH THE INFLATION OF
09:58:36 EVERYTHING ELSE.
09:58:36 SO AT THE VERY CENTER OF OUR PROBLEM IN OUR CITY IS THE
09:58:43 LARGE PERCENTAGE OF LOW-PAID WAGES.
09:58:48 AND FROM A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE, NOT TO PAY SOMEBODY A
09:58:53 LIVING WAGE IS TO STEAL THEIR LABOR.
09:58:57 THERE'S SIMPLY NO OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
09:59:00 IF I WORK A WHOLE DAY AND CANNOT HOUSE AND FEED AND
09:59:05 CLOTHE MY FAMILY, THEN MY LABOR HAS BEEN STOLEN FROM ME,
09:59:10 FROM THE BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE.
09:59:12 AND SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO INCREASE THE WAGES OF THE
09:59:20 LOWEST EARNERS IN THIS CITY, TO ITS GLORY AND ITS HONOR
09:59:26 AND WELL-BEING OF PEACE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09:59:27 IT IS THE LACK OF ECONOMIC POSSIBILITY THAT'S AT THE CORE
09:59:33 OF THESE PROBLEMS.
09:59:33 AND I URGE YOU TO NOT ONLY PAY EVERY CITY WORKER A LIVING
09:59:38 WAGE, BUT DO EVERYTHING TALK ENCOURAGE EVERY BUSINESS TO
09:59:42 DO THAT AS WELL.
09:59:43 AND I AM GOING TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS.
09:59:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, REVEREND.
09:59:49 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:59:58 >> IN GOD WE TRUST.
10:00:01 PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, 1112 EAST SCOTT
10:00:06 STREET.
10:00:07 PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS.
10:00:08 HE THAT BELIEVE IN THE SON HAS EVER-LASTING LIFE.
10:00:12 HE THAT BELIEVE NOT IN THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE BUT THE
10:00:16 WRATH OF GOD SHALL ABIDE ON HIM.
10:00:18 GOD IS ANGRY WITH THE WICKED.
10:00:21 I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR AGENDA HERE, AND I WANT TO MAKE AN
10:00:28 APPEAL.
10:00:28 WHAT IT SAY -- I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES.
10:00:32 ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL -- IT LOOKS LIKE IT SAYS
10:00:37 ANY DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL WITH RESPECT TO ANY
10:00:44 MATTER CONSIDERED AT THIS MEETING WOULD NEED A RECORD OF
10:00:53 THE PROCEEDINGS AND TO -- AND FOR SUCH PURPOSE ANY NEED
10:00:58 TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER AND TO ENSURE THAT THE SOLUTION
10:01:08 SHOULD BE -- SHOULD THE PROCEEDING TO BE MADE.
10:01:14 WE DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIRING NO COURT REPORTER, IF
10:01:17 WE GOT A PROBLEM.
10:01:19 IT LOOK LIKE WE ALL BE ABLE TO COME TO YOU ALL DIRECTLY
10:01:23 BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE CITY COUNCIL, NOT NO COURT REPORTER.
10:01:26 BUT THE THING ABOUT IT, WHEN YOU DO STUFF LIKE THIS,
10:01:29 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT WE GOT TO SAY.
10:01:32 I CAME IN HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO.
10:01:35 YOU ALL GOT THAT RED LIGHT CAMERA.
10:01:37 YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM THINGS TAKEN DOWN.
10:01:39 CAUGHT ME THREE TIMES TALKING ABOUT RUNNING A RED LIGHT.
10:01:43 I AIN'T RUN NO RED LIGHT.
10:01:45 BUT ADJUSTING CONTROL, THE RECORDING AS MAKE IT LOOK LIKE
10:01:51 I DONE RUN A RED LIGHT.
10:01:53 BUT WE DID NOT RUN A RED LIGHT.
10:01:57 THAT'S A SCAM FOR TAKING PEOPLE'S MONEY.
10:01:58 ALSO, THE YOUNG LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT.
10:02:01 WE DON'T NEED NO ROUNDABOUT ON NORTH 34th STREET.
10:02:04 SEEMS LIKE YOU ALL DO EVERYTHING THAT HURT THE DISTRICT,
10:02:09 33605.
10:02:11 AND DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BUILT UP, WHICH IS
10:02:17 VERY WRONG.
10:02:18 I KNOW YOU ALL DON'T RESPECT, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LIKE ME
10:02:24 THAT WANT TO PREACH THE TRUTH.
10:02:26 THE YOUNG LADY THAT CAME UP HERE A WHILE AGO, YOU GIVE
10:02:29 HER THE TIME.
10:02:30 YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE US THE TIME.
10:02:32 YOU WANT TO CRUCIFY US.
10:02:33 THE THING ABOUT IT, YOU GOT THOSE RETENTION PONDS OUT
10:02:36 THERE, FILL THEM UP AND BUILD SOME PLACES FOR HOMELESS
10:02:40 PEOPLE.
10:02:40 PUT THEM ALL IN THE BLACK FOLK SECTION, WHICH IS
10:02:43 RIDICULOUS.
10:02:44 BUT YOU ALL DON'T CARE BECAUSE YOU ALL LIVE IN LUXURY.
10:02:47 YOU ALL GOT YOUR PLACE.
10:02:48 I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF MONEY YOU ALL MAKING FOR BEING
10:02:51 UP THERE, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR POOR PEOPLE AND
10:02:54 THE BLACK PEOPLE.
10:02:55 AND LOOK AT THEIR AGENDA.
10:02:57 SEE WHAT THEY WANT.
10:02:58 I'M TELLING YOU, PLEASE, DON'T PUT NO ROUNDABOUT ON
10:03:03 34th STREET.
10:03:04 WE DON'T NEED IT.
10:03:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:03:06 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
10:03:06 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:03:08 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:03:09 ANGEL DeANGELO, 33603, I WORK WITH RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
10:03:14 COALITION.
10:03:14 I MET WITH MANY CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES BEFORE TO
10:03:18 TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES.
10:03:19 IN MARCH 2018, MY PARTNER SADIE AND I MET WITH POLICE
10:03:22 CHIEF BRIAN DUGAN AFTER THE DEATH OF PTSD VETERAN BLACK
10:03:26 MAN SIDNEY RICHARDSON, WHO WAS KILLED DURING A PTSD
10:03:30 EPISODE.
10:03:31 WE WERE ABRUPTLY THROWN OUT OF POLICE CHIEF DUGAN'S
10:03:34 OFFICE FOR IMPLYING THAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
10:03:37 MIGHT HAVE A RACISM ISSUE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT DOES.
10:03:40 I'M QUITE IMPRESSED TO BE HERE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU
10:03:46 TALKING ABOUT BIAS TRAINING THAT WE WORKED AT THE CHARTER
10:03:51 REVIEW COMMISSION TO MAKE HAPPEN.
10:03:52 DIDN'T GET THE LANGUAGE WE WANTED BUT WE GOT LANGUAGE.
10:03:55 THEREFORE IT'S TIME TO IMPLEMENT THE LANGUAGE THAT WE THE
10:03:57 CITIZENS HAVE ASKED FOR, INSTEAD OF THINGS LIKE DRONES,
10:04:00 150,000.
10:04:01 I'LL NEVER LET THAT GO, YOU ALL.
10:04:02 I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT A BIAS TRAINING PROGRAM
10:04:06 IMPLEMENTED BE EFFICIENT.
10:04:09 IT HAS TO BE RAN BY A BLACK AND BROWN MEMBERS OF THE
10:04:12 COMMUNITY, TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
10:04:15 IT HAS TO BE RAN BY PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFLICTED BY THE
10:04:18 DISCRIMINATIONS THAT ARE IMPOSED UPON THEM.
10:04:20 DNI IS HISTORICALLY WHITE WOMEN, PREACHING ABOUT
10:04:24 INCLUSIVITY.
10:04:25 I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT IN THIS CITY.
10:04:27 WE NEED TO INVEST IN TRUE BIAS TRAINING AND CULTURAL
10:04:31 COMPETENCY THAT ADDRESSES MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS.
10:04:34 THE LIVES OF OUR TRANSGENDER CITIZENS, THE LIVES OF
10:04:36 IMMIGRANTS AND EVEN THOSE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED AND
10:04:40 ADDRESS THE TRUE ISSUES FACED IN THE BLACK AND BROWN AND
10:04:42 POOR COMMUNITIES.
10:04:43 THE GAY AND BISEXUAL COMMUNITIES.
10:04:46 INSTEAD OF THIS IDEA OF WE'RE GOING TO HUG EACH OTHER AND
10:04:48 SAY THERE ARE SOME BIASES.
10:04:50 EVERYBODY HAS THEM, WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT.
10:04:52 IT NEEDS TO BE A ROBUST PROGRAM.
10:04:54 I SAW THE PROPOSED PROGRAM FROM THE HR.
10:04:56 I THINK A LOT OF IT IS GREAT.
10:04:58 BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME LEADERSHIP THROUGH AN
10:05:01 OUTSIDE PROVIDER THAT'S RUN BY A BLACK-BROWN IMMIGRANT
10:05:04 TRANS FOLK.
10:05:05 NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE.
10:05:07 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE REST OF THE CITY DOES
10:05:10 NOT GET TO LEAVE THIS 40-HOUR CLASS FEELING HAPPY AND
10:05:13 COMFORTABLE.
10:05:13 THEY NEED TO LEAVE FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE ONLY
10:05:16 THROUGH DISCOMFORT DOES CHANGE ARRIVE.
10:05:20 THOSE OF US IN THE CITIZENRY THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH TAMPA
10:05:23 POLICE DEPARTMENT GET TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE EVERY TIME
10:05:25 THEY PULL ONE OF US OVER OR INTERACT WITH US.
10:05:28 THEY CAN EXPERIENCE FOR 40 HOURS AND SHOULD BE EVERY TWO
10:05:32 YEARS.
10:05:32 FOUR YEARS IS GREAT.
10:05:33 EVERY TWO YEARS.
10:05:34 THIS IS A SERIOUS SITUATION FOR A LOT OF BLACK AND BROWN
10:05:36 CITIZENS HERE, A LOT OF TRANSGENDER CITIZENS, THIS IS
10:05:39 LIFE AND DEATH.
10:05:39 THIS IS NOT JUST SOME INCONVENIENT TRAINING THAT NEEDS TO
10:05:42 BE TAKEN.
10:05:43 CULTURAL COMPETENCY TRAINING WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEMS
10:05:46 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:05:48 BUT IT WILL BE A BEGINNING TO SOLUTIONS IF WE DO IT THE
10:05:52 RIGHT WAY.
10:05:52 THIS CITY COUNCIL CAN GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE CITY
10:05:56 COUNCIL FINALLY DID SOMETHING, FINALLY.
10:05:58 OR GO DOWN AS THE ONE THAT, WELL, WE IMPLEMENTED THIS
10:06:01 40-HOUR HUG-OUT SESSION.
10:06:03 WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO BE?
10:06:04 I HOPE YOU DO THE RIGHT THING AND INVEST OUR MONEY IN
10:06:07 SOMETHING WE HAVE ASKED FOR AND SEVERELY NEED.
10:06:09 THANK YOU.
10:06:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:06:10 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:06:14 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:06:14 I'M MARAMOS.
10:06:17 I LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:06:19 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER 64, FILE NUMBER E2019-24.
10:06:25 REGARDING WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR HR, TPD, AND
10:06:30 THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE CITY OF
10:06:36 TAMPA.
10:06:36 JUST TO PREFACE WHY I'M HERE AND WHY IT'S SO PIVOTAL WHAT
10:06:42 I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IS THAT IN FLORIDA AND IN TAMPA,
10:06:43 THE FIRST UNOFFICIAL POLICE OFFICERS WERE SLAVE
10:06:46 CAPTURERS.
10:06:46 THE FIRST OFFICIAL POLICE OFFICERS IN FLORIDA AND IN THE
10:06:49 CITY EXIST SOLELY TO PROTECT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OF THE
10:06:54 DESCENDANTS OF WHITE ENSLAVERS AND TO MONITOR AND ASSAULT
10:06:57 THE BODIES OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE.
10:07:00 TODAY IN TAMPA, WITH THAT CONTINUED LEGACY, WE HAVE
10:07:03 SUFFERED THE NOTORIOUS REIGN OF THE TAMPA POLICE
10:07:06 DEPARTMENT.
10:07:07 EXAMPLES LIKE THE BIKING LAW BLACK PROGRAM UNDER MAYOR
10:07:10 CASTOR, WHEN SHE WAS THE POLICE CHIEF, WHEREIN BLACK
10:07:14 PEOPLE ON BIKES WERE ROUTINELY STOPPED AND FRISKED
10:07:17 AGAINST THEIR WILL AND WITHOUT HAVING COMMITTED CRIMES.
10:07:19 TO THE MANY ATTACKS ON UNARMED BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY
10:07:23 MEMBERS IN THIS CITY.
10:07:24 I MYSELF HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED BY TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
10:07:30 OFFICER WHILST FOLLOWING THE LAW ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS,
10:07:34 WHILE OBTAINING MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
10:07:37 TAMPA IN HISTORY STUDYING THEIR BEHAVIOR ON A LARGER
10:07:40 LEVEL IN THIS CITY, IN THIS STATE, AND IN THIS COUNTRY.
10:07:44 IN RESPONSE TO THIS AND MANY DECADES OF HORRENDOUS
10:07:48 VIOLENCE AGAINST -- PERPETUATED BY POLICE OFFICERS
10:07:52 AGAINST BLACK, BROWN, INDIGENOUS, QUEER, DISABLED, FEM
10:07:56 AND SO MANY MARGINALIZED PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, RESIDENTS
10:08:00 LIKE MYSELF WANT AND NEED A FULL RESTORATIVE CULTURAL
10:08:07 COMPETENCY PROGRAM.
10:08:08 THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN E-MAILED AND BROUGHT TO THE
10:08:10 ATTENTION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM THE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
10:08:13 COALITION, AND WE NEED THIS ROBUST 40-HOUR PROGRAM NOT
10:08:16 ONLY TO END THE IMPLICIT BIAS OF POLICE OFFICERS, BUT TO
10:08:20 END THE CONTINUED MURDER OF PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME IN
10:08:25 THE CITY.
10:08:26 AND HARASSMENT.
10:08:27 WE NEED PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY THAT ARE LED BY OUTSIDE
10:08:33 COMMUNITY-BASED PROVIDERS DIRECTLY FROM MARGINALIZED
10:08:37 COMMUNITIES IN TAMPA SO THAT ALL OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED TO
10:08:41 ATTEND THIS PROGRAM AT LEAST EVERY TWO YEARS, IF NOT
10:08:44 ANNUALLY.
10:08:44 AND THESE ARE THE METHODS THAT THE COMMUNITY OF TAMPA HAS
10:08:49 TAKEN THE TIME TO PUT TOGETHER.
10:08:51 SO PLEASE STOLEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND IMPLEMENT THE
10:08:55 FULL RESTORATIVE CULTURAL COMPETENCY PROGRAM AS SOON AS
10:08:59 POSSIBLE SO WE CAN ALL TOGETHER ACHIEVE A TRULY INCLUSIVE
10:09:02 SAFE CITY, ESPECIALLY FOR FOLKS THAT LOOK LIKE ME.
10:09:05 THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
10:09:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:09:09 WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:09:10 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:09:11 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:09:12 MY NAME IS DIANA SHANKS.
10:09:14 I SIT ON THE BOARD OF PASCO PRIDE, BUT I'VE BEEN LIVING
10:09:16 HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.
10:09:18 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS AGENDA ITEM 64.
10:09:22 IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING IS IMPORTANT IN EVERY INDUSTRY.
10:09:25 NOBODY IS IMMUNE TO BEING PREJUDICED.
10:09:27 DISCRIMINATORY BIASES FROM HOMOPHOBIA AND TRANSPHOBIA TO
10:09:31 ABLEISM AND CLASSISM IS BAKED INTO OUR CULTURE AND IT IS
10:09:35 A LIFELONG PROCESS FOR ALL OF US TO UNLEARN THE DAMAGING
10:09:38 MESSAGES THAT WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT.
10:09:39 THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE ARE REFRESHERS TO
10:09:41 THE BIAS TRAINING EVERY TWO YEARS.
10:09:43 THIS ISN'T SOMETHING ANY OF US CAN UNLEARN IN ONE
10:09:46 AFTERNOON.
10:09:47 IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THE BIAS TRAINING COME FROM THE
10:09:49 OUTSIDE -- COME FROM OUTSIDE PROVIDERS WHO ARE PART OF
10:09:52 AND WORKING IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE THE MOST
10:09:54 MARGINALIZED, IS ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE THE MOST
10:09:57 AFFECTED BY POLICE BIAS, BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE.
10:10:00 THIS IS TRUE A HUNDRED TIMES OVER WHEN WE'RE TALKING
10:10:03 ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH NATIONWIDE AND IN TAMPA HAS
10:10:06 A VERY WELL-DOCUMENTED HISTORY AND RECENT HISTORY OF
10:10:10 RACIALLY DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES.
10:10:13 MY PARTNER AND PRESIDENT OF PASCO PRIDE IS A PARAMEDIC
10:10:15 FIREFIGHTER SO I KNOW THAT FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE TO MAKE
10:10:18 LIFE-OR-DEATH, SPLIT-SECOND DECISIONS ON EVERY CALL THEY
10:10:21 RUN.
10:10:21 THIS MAKES IT ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE THE
10:10:23 BEST AND MOST COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING AVAILABLE TO OUR
10:10:27 FIRST RESPONDERS SO THEY CAN SERVE OUR COMMUNITY TO THE
10:10:29 BEST OF THEIR ABILITY.
10:10:30 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:10:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM.
10:10:33 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:10:37 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:10:38 MY NAME IS LINA PATLAW.
10:10:42 I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE BIAS TRAINING PROGRAM THAT'S
10:10:46 BEING REQUESTED BY THE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE GROUP.
10:10:49 AS LONG AS WE HAVE OPPRESSED NEIGHBORS IN OUR COMMUNITY,
10:10:54 I FEEL THE NEED TO SPEAK OUT.
10:10:57 SPEAK OUT FOR REAL RESTORATIVE CULTURAL COMPETENCY
10:11:03 PROGRAM FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRST RESPONDERS DEPARTMENTS.
10:11:06 WE NEED TO SUPPORT A ROBUST 40 HOUR PROGRAM.
10:11:13 WE HOPE TO SEE AN END TO BIAS AND OPPRESSION.
10:11:18 WE WANT A SAFE CITY FOR EVERYONE.
10:11:24 WE WANT JUSTICE FOR ALL, AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS
10:11:27 STRUCTURAL OPPRESSION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:11:31 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:11:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:11:33 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:11:35 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:11:37 I'M ELLA SNELLING WITH THE TAMPA ALCOHOL COALITION.
10:11:41 I'M HERE TO TALK TODAY ABOUT THE OPEN HOUSE PARTIES IN
10:11:44 NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
10:11:45 IN 2014, THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE
10:11:49 RELATED TO ILLEGAL UNDERAGE OPEN HOUSE PARTIES.
10:11:53 THE ORDINANCE WAS CREATED BY THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN
10:11:57 RESPONSE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, TAMPA ALCOHOL
10:12:00 COALITION AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS ABOUT LARGE, UNRULY
10:12:02 DRINKING PARTIES THROWN BY COLLEGE STUDENTS OFF-CAMPUS.
10:12:05 TAMPA ALCOHOL COALITION'S MISSION IS TO PREVENT UNDERAGE
10:12:09 AND HIGH-RISK DRINKING.
10:12:11 WE WORK WITH MANY PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITIES
10:12:13 AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REDUCE THE CONSEQUENCES OF
10:12:16 UNDERAGE DRINKING.
10:12:17 ONE OF OUR REALLY GOOD PARTNERS IS THE UNIVERSITY OF
10:12:21 TAMPA, AND THEY ARE VERY PROACTIVE AND WORK HARD TO
10:12:24 EDUCATE THEIR STUDENTS ABOUT SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND OTHER --
10:12:28 ALCOHOL AND OTHER DRUG USE.
10:12:29 UT STUDENTS ARE HELD TO A VERY HIGH STANDARD AND EXPECTED
10:12:33 TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW,
10:12:37 COLLEGE STUDENTS DRINK AND HAVE PARTIES.
10:12:39 SOME OF THESE PARTIES CAN GET OUT OF CONTROL AND BECOME A
10:12:41 NUISANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:12:42 AFTER THE TAMPA HOUSE PARTY ORDINANCE WAS IMPLEMENTED IN
10:12:46 2014, BY THE WAY, THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWS CIVIL PENALTIES
10:12:52 AND IT STARTS WITH A WARNING TO THE OWNER OF THE
10:12:54 PROPERTY, BECAUSE MOST OF THESE ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES AND
10:12:57 A LOT OF TIMES OWNERS DON'T LIVE NEAR THERE, SO THEY
10:12:59 DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:13:01 THAT'S WHY IT IS A REALLY GOOD ORDINANCE.
10:13:03 A STRONG MESSAGE WAS SENT AND THE PARTIES AND COMPLAINTS
10:13:06 WERE GREATLY REDUCED.
10:13:08 UNFORTUNATELY, OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE PARTIES HAVE
10:13:10 RAMPED UP AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE COMPLAINING AGAIN, FOR
10:13:12 GOOD REASON.
10:13:13 TAMPA ALCOHOL COALITION, UT ARE CONCERNED NOT ONLY ABOUT
10:13:16 THE STUDENT HEALTH AND SAFETY, BUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE
10:13:20 FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
10:13:21 THE CURRENT TAMPA OPEN HOUSE PARTY ORDINANCE DOESN'T
10:13:24 APPLY TO THE LOUD DRINKING PARTIES IF STUDENTS ARE OVER
10:13:27 THE PAGE OF 21 OR IF YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT THERE'S
10:13:30 UNDERAGE DRINKING GOING ON.
10:13:33 ANOTHER CITY, WINTER PARK, HAS A SIMILAR ORDINANCE, BUT
10:13:37 THEY INCLUDE THE WORDING "PARTIES THAT GENERATE NOISE
10:13:42 DISTURBANCE."
10:13:44 IF THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ADDED TO THIS ORDINANCE UNDER
10:13:46 THE DEFINITION OF OPEN HOUSE PARTIES, THEN IT WOULD GIVE
10:13:50 AN ADDITIONAL TOOL TO TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, UNIVERSITY
10:13:54 OF TAMPA AND A WAY TO REIN THESE PARTIES IN AND BRING
10:13:58 PEACE BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:13:59 THANK YOU.
10:13:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:14:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: UT, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL
10:14:09 AND WELL REHEARSED ON DIFFERENT LAWS IN DIFFERENT CITIES.
10:14:11 AT THE END OF THE SESSION, I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION AS
10:14:14 IT RELATES TO MAYBE AMENDING OUR MOTION.
10:14:18 I'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF CITIES AND THEIR ILLEGAL HOUSE
10:14:21 PARTIES ARE VERY MORE ROBUST THAN THE ONE WE HAVE.
10:14:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:14:25 APPRECIATE IT.
10:14:26 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:14:27 WE HAVE THREE MORE INDIVIDUALS HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:14:29 IS ANYBODY ELSE HERE INTENDING TO SPEAK HERE DURING
10:14:32 PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:14:32 YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.
10:14:35 ONE MORE.
10:14:35 OKAY.
10:14:35 GOOD, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF TIME.
10:14:37 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:14:39 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:14:41 I'M HERE WITH MS. SNELLING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
10:14:44 ADDITION OF THE NOISE PIECE FOR THE ORDINANCE.
10:14:47 I REPRESENT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
10:14:49 I'M AN ASSOCIATE DEAN THERE.
10:14:51 MY NAME IS JENNIFER SKYA.
10:14:52 TWO OF THE AREAS THAT I WORK WITH ARE THE OFFICE OF
10:14:55 STUDENT CONDUCT, WHICH DEALS WITH STUDENT BEHAVIOR AND
10:14:58 ALSO WITH RESIDENCE LIFE WHICH DEALS WITH ON-CAMPUS AND
10:15:02 OFF-CAMPUS STUDENT LIVING.
10:15:03 I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE ADDITION OF THE NOISE
10:15:06 DISTURBANCE TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
10:15:07 AROUND ILLEGAL HOUSE PARTIES WITH ALCOHOL.
10:15:10 EVERY YEAR WE RECEIVE A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS FROM
10:15:15 NEIGHBORS AND ALSO TPD.
10:15:17 THIS YEAR TO DATE, WE HAVE RECEIVED FIVE COMPLAINTS FROM
10:15:19 SUCH NEIGHBORS.
10:15:20 I WOULD GUESS THAT IS A SMALL FRACTION OF THE ACTUAL
10:15:23 DISTURBANCES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN THE SURROUNDING
10:15:25 COMMUNITY.
10:15:25 WHEN IT'S POSSIBLE, TPD COMMUNICATES WITH THE UNIVERSITY
10:15:30 FOR STUDENT INCIDENTS, AND WE UTILIZE OUR OWN STUDENT
10:15:33 CONDUCT PROCESSES.
10:15:34 HOWEVER, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE CAN ONLY NOTIFY THOSE
10:15:38 PROPERTY OWNERS IF THERE'S UNDERAGE DRINKING OCCURRING.
10:15:41 AND SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS WITH THAT, CLEARLY.
10:15:43 EVEN WHEN THE POLICE RESPOND TO AN INCIDENT, ALL THE
10:15:47 VISIBLE EVIDENCE OF ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION MAY QUICKLY
10:15:49 DISAPPEAR.
10:15:50 WE NEED THE NOISE SECTION OF THE ATTORNEYS FOLLOW UP WITH
10:15:54 PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN THE ONLY THING THAT IS EVIDENT IS
10:15:56 ACTUALLY A NOISE DISTURBANCE.
10:15:57 ADDITIONALLY, THE UNIVERSITY IS NOT ALWAYS NOTIFIED
10:16:00 AND/OR IT'S DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY THE TENANTS OF THE
10:16:03 PROPERTY.
10:16:03 IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS
10:16:06 DIRECTLY ON THESE ISSUES.
10:16:07 THE PROPERTY OWNERS MAY NOT BE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING
10:16:10 IN THESE PARTICULAR HOMES.
10:16:12 THE NOTIFICATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY WOULD PROVIDE THEM
10:16:14 WITH INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S OCCURRING AT THEIR
10:16:17 PROPERTIES.
10:16:17 AND IT MAY ALLOW THEM TO MAKE MORE INFORMED DECISIONS
10:16:20 WHEN THEY ARE RENEWING LEASES AND SELECTING TENANTS.
10:16:22 SO OVERALL, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT IT'S REALLY THE NOISE
10:16:26 AND NOT THE ALCOHOL THAT'S THE FIRST SIGN OF DISTURBANCE
10:16:29 FOR THESE ISSUES.
10:16:30 THEY CAN START OUT AT SMALL GATHERINGS, AND IF THEY ARE
10:16:34 NOT CHECKED QUICKLY OR IMMEDIATELY, THEY CAN GROW INTO
10:16:37 MUCH LARGER GATHERINGS THAT DISTURB OUR COMMUNITY AND
10:16:40 RESIDENTS.
10:16:41 ON BEHALF OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, I'M REQUESTING THE
10:16:44 CURRENT ORDINANCE BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE ACCOUNTABILITY
10:16:46 FOR NOISE DISTURBANCES AND THE ABILITY TO NOTIFY AND CITE
10:16:51 PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:16:51 THANK YOU.
10:16:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:16:53 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:16:55 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS JOSHUA HOLTON.
10:17:00 I AM A TAMPA NATIVE FROM -- HI TO JOHN.
10:17:03 DEFINITELY GLAD TO SEE HIM BACK ON THE COUNCIL.
10:17:05 I DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
10:17:12 TEN YEARS AGO THIS WEEK THAT I REMEMBER -- I THINK JOHN
10:17:15 WAS ACTUALLY SITTING ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME WHERE
10:17:17 TAMPA PASSED A TRANSGENDER HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE TO
10:17:22 PROTECT THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY AS A PROTECTED CLASS
10:17:24 AGAINST CRIMES.
10:17:26 BY THE WAY, I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THE IMPLICIT BIAS
10:17:29 TRAINING.
10:17:29 I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
10:17:30 UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS A 5-1 VOTE THAT PASSED COUNCIL.
10:17:35 I THINK BACK IN THE DAY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS ALSO ON
10:17:39 THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME AND VOTED AGAINST IT.
10:17:41 HE WAS THE LONE DISSENTER.
10:17:43 I HOPE SOME OF HIS VIEWS MAY HAVE CHANGED OR BROADENED TO
10:17:48 INCLUDE THE WIDER COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME.
10:17:49 BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE
10:17:52 MARGINALIZED MEMBERS OF OUR HOUSELESS, SEX WORKER,
10:17:55 MENTALLY ILL, LGBTQIA, BLACK, BROWN, INDIGENOUS, AND
10:17:57 LATINX COMMUNITIES.
10:18:00 WE NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS OF HOW SOME OF THIS BIAS IS
10:18:04 IMPACTING OUR LIVES.
10:18:06 DRIVING IN HERE TO COUNCIL TODAY, I SAW AT LEAST FIVE
10:18:08 PEOPLE IN BLANKETS OUTSIDE.
10:18:10 IT'S CLEAR THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE FREEZING.
10:18:12 AND THAT'S THE PREDICAMENT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
10:18:16 WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO HOW OUR BIAS MIGHT IMPACT
10:18:20 THESE FOLKS AS THEY RUN INTO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND I
10:18:24 ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO PACK THIS TRAINING.
10:18:25 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID AT THE TIME ABOUT THE
10:18:27 TRANSGENDER HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE.
10:18:29 IT WILL PROVIDE A BROADER SPECTRUM PROTECTING INDIVIDUALS
10:18:34 FROM DISCRIMINATION.
10:18:35 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE STAND FIRM SHOWING RESPECT FOR
10:18:37 THE UNDERREPRESENTED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE
10:18:39 SURE WE STAND WITH THEM AS THEY CONTINUE TO FACE
10:18:42 DISCRIMINATION, DISRESPECT, VIOLENCE AND INJUSTICE EVERY
10:18:46 DAY.
10:18:46 I'M HERE TO ECHO THE SUPPORT FOR A ROBUST 40-HOUR
10:18:50 PROGRAM.
10:18:50 WE WANT TO SEE AN END TO BIAS AND OPPRESSION.
10:18:53 WE WANT A SAFE CITY.
10:18:54 WE WANT TO A CITY FOR JUSTICE FOR ALL, TRULY.
10:18:56 I DO SUPPORT A FULL RESTORATIVE CULTURAL COMPETENCY
10:19:02 PROGRAM.
10:19:02 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:19:03 I HOPE YOU CONSIDER ADDING THAT.
10:19:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:19:07 I DO WANT TO ADD WHEN THIS WAS PASSED -- PASSED THE LAST
10:19:12 COUNCIL 7-0.
10:19:13 I'M SURE WE'LL GET THAT TODAY.
10:19:14 THANK YOU.
10:19:16 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:19:31 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND IN THE SPIRIT OF THE
10:19:36 HOLIDAYS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL.
10:19:38 I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER --
10:19:42 >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, YOUR NAME.
10:19:43 >> MY NAME, FOR THE RECORD, LISA MONTELIONE.
10:19:48 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT REMINDER.
10:19:50 I HAVE HANDED TO MR. SHELBY A VISION PLAN.
10:19:59 FOR THE SAKE OF SUSTAINABILITY, I ONLY PRINTED ONE COPY
10:20:04 BUT IT IS AVAILABLE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WEBSITE.
10:20:06 GUCK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE
10:20:08 VISION PLAN.
10:20:08 AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I HAVE LIVED IN THE AREA THAT IS
10:20:14 PART OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE INNOVATION DISTRICT THAT IS
10:20:20 BEING PROPOSED FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
10:20:24 TO PARAPHRASE THE MAYOR, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN
10:20:28 THAT TIME, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE MANY MORE IN THE YEARS
10:20:31 TO COME, MORE THAN WE'VE SEEN IN A LIFETIME.
10:20:34 FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THE AREA IS,
10:20:40 TERRACE PARK, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S BOUNDED BY FOWLER
10:20:43 AVENUE TO THE NORTH, BUSCH BOULEVARD TO THE SOUTH, THE
10:20:46 TEMPLE TERRACE CITY LINE TO THE EAST, AND 30th STREET
10:20:48 TO THE WEST.
10:20:49 THIS VISION PLAN INCLUDES THE UNIVERSITY SQUARE
10:20:53 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COMPLEMENTS THE AREA AND GOES ALL THE
10:20:57 WAY TO NEBRASKA.
10:21:00 IT'S AN AREA THAT HAS STRUGGLED FOR ATTENTION FOR MANY,
10:21:02 MANY YEARS.
10:21:04 I'M GLAD TO SEE WITH THE MAYOR'S SUPPORT THAT THE AREA OF
10:21:09 NORTH TAMPA IS FINALLY GETTING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES.
10:21:12 SO THE RESIDENTS GATHERED FOR JUST ABOUT A YEAR, FROM
10:21:17 FEBRUARY 2012 TO FEBRUARY 2013, TO PUT THIS VISION PLAN
10:21:21 TOGETHER.
10:21:22 NOW, WHILE IT IS A FEW YEARS OLD, THE AREA HAS BEEN VERY
10:21:29 STABLE AS FAR AS RESIDENCY CONCERNS.
10:21:32 A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE THERE, LIKE ME, FOR 30 YEARS
10:21:35 OR MORE.
10:21:36 WE'VE SEEN SOME TRANSITION IN THE AREA AS WELL, WHEN THE
10:21:39 DOWNTURN HAPPENED IN 2011, A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
10:21:44 REMAINED SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT NOW ARE NOT HOME-OWNER
10:21:49 OCCUPIED.
10:21:50 THEY ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES, WHICH CAN BE A BLESSING AND A
10:21:52 CURSE AT THE SAME TIME.
10:21:53 SO THIS VISION PLAN IS STILL, I BELIEVE, RELEVANT.
10:21:59 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE, THE CONCERNS
10:22:02 ARE OUTLINED AS QUALITY OF LIFE, PUBLIC SAFETY, HOUSING,
10:22:08 AND TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:22:13 THESE ISSUES WERE CITED NOT JUST BY THE RESIDENTS, BUT BY
10:22:16 THE BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE THE SURVEY AND THE STUDY DID
10:22:20 INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANTS OF THE AREA
10:22:26 BUT ALSO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
10:22:27 I URGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK OVER THAT, AND SINCE I'VE BEEN
10:22:30 WORKING ON THIS FOR MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE --
10:22:34 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS.
10:22:36 >> -- I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
10:22:38 HAVE.
10:22:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, COUNCIL.
10:22:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO QUESTION.
10:22:44 JUST A COMMENT OR COMPLIMENT TO COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE
10:22:50 FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY.
10:22:51 SIX HARD YEARS OF WORK.
10:22:53 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:22:53 I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN.
10:22:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:22:56 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:22:57 IS ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:22:59 OKAY.
10:23:00 THIS GENTLEMAN WILL BE THE LAST ONE.
10:23:02 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:23:03 MY NAME IS ANDRE HILL.
10:23:05 I'M WITH URBAN PROGRESS ALLIANCE.
10:23:07 I'M HERE FOR TWO REASONS, TO STAND BY RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
10:23:12 AND FILE NUMBER 24.
10:23:14 I'M ALSO HERE CONCERNING THE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT.
10:23:20 AS I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, I AM A NATIVE OF TAMPA.
10:23:22 IN 1952, I WAS BROUGHT HOME FROM A HOSPITAL A BLOCK AND A
10:23:28 HALF FROM THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR, WHICH IS IN DESPAIR.
10:23:32 THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST ECONOMIC ENGINES IN THE BLACK
10:23:37 AMERICAN COMMUNITIES, AND IS UNDER SIEGE WITH OUTSIDE
10:23:42 DEVELOPERS WITH THE INTENTIONS OF GENTRIFICATION.
10:23:45 WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THE PREVIOUS MAYOR DID
10:23:49 NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF UNDERWRITING THESE
10:23:52 HISTORICAL BLACK BUSINESSES, AND THEY ARE FAILING AND
10:23:54 THEY ARE HOLDING ON BY A SLIM STRING.
10:23:58 ALSO, THEY ARE BEING HIT WITH ZONING CODE VIOLATIONS.
10:24:03 THEY ARE BEING HARASSED AND PRESSURED INTO A SITUATION TO
10:24:07 SELL THEIR PROPERTY TO OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS SO YOU CAN
10:24:10 BRING IN A HOMOGENIZED COMMUNITY -- CORPORATE AMERICA
10:24:17 TYPE STRUCTURE WHICH IS ALL OVER THE WORLD, ALL
10:24:19 THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
10:24:20 OUR CONCERN AND CONSIDERATION IS THAT THE COUNCIL SUPPORT
10:24:24 US IN STABILIZING THIS ONE LAST ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT'S
10:24:29 WITHIN A TOURISM COMPONENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:24:33 WE PROPOSE TO BRING IN AND SET UP A THEME OF GATEWAY TO
10:24:38 AFRICA AND THE CARIBBEAN, BRINGING OTHER NATIONS IN FOR
10:24:42 IMPORTING, EXPORTING, ALSO TRAINING.
10:24:45 A LOT OF THE TRAINING TAKEN OUT OF THE SCHOOLS, WE WANT
10:24:48 TO RETURN IT.
10:24:49 I GRADUATED FROM THE BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL, THE ORIGINAL
10:24:51 BLAKE IN 1969, '70.
10:24:53 WE HAD ALL THE SKILLS TO LEARN ALL THE THINGS NECESSARY
10:24:56 TO SURVIVE IN LIFE.
10:24:57 THAT IS NO LONGER THERE IN THIS AREA.
10:24:59 SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:25:02 WE'VE SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO TALLAHASSEE FOR
10:25:06 APPROPRIATIONS FOR PREDEVELOPMENT MONEY.
10:25:08 I WILL BE CONTACTING EACH ONE OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO GIVE
10:25:12 YOU MORE SPECIFICS ON THAT REQUEST AND WHY IT'S
10:25:17 NECESSARY.
10:25:17 IF YOU LOOK BACK, YOU SEE NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT 300
10:25:21 GRAVES.
10:25:22 IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, WHEN THAT BLACK ECONOMIC ENGINE WAS
10:25:26 ATTACKED AND 300 PLUS PEOPLE WERE MURDERED BECAUSE OF
10:25:30 ENVY AND JEALOUSY.
10:25:33 ALSO ROSEWOOD, RIGHT HERE IN FLORIDA WAS ALSO ATTACKED.
10:25:36 SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ECONOMIC ENGINE, AND WE HOPE
10:25:40 THAT YOU SUPPORT US, BECAUSE THIS MOVEMENT IS COUNTYWIDE,
10:25:46 AND IT WILL BE VERY ADVANTAGEOUS FOR YOU GUYS TO BE
10:25:49 INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING IT.
10:25:51 THANK YOU.
10:25:51 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:25:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:25:57 IF YOU WISH TO FURTHER DISCUSS THAT, BECAUSE YOU ASKED
10:25:59 QUESTIONS, YOU CAN CONTACT THE OFFICE TO SET UP MEETINGS
10:26:01 OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:26:03 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:26:04 HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
10:26:04 NEXT, WE MOVE, ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS FOR THE PUBLIC FOR
10:26:07 RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:26:09 THERE APPEARING TO BE NONE, WE MOVE ON TO COMMITTEE
10:26:13 REPORTS, THE CONSENT AGENDA. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE
10:26:17 ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:26:18 IS ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 3?
10:26:24 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:26:28 THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING ONLY.
10:26:30 THE SUBSTANTIVE PRESENTATION BY STAFF WILL BE MADE IN
10:26:33 JANUARY AT SECOND READING WHEN IT'S NOTICED FOR A PUBLIC
10:26:36 HEARING.
10:26:36 THIS IS AN AD VALOREM TAX APPLICATION.
10:26:39 IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
10:26:43 FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR DESIGN
10:26:45 STANDARDS.
10:26:46 AND I JUST ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON FIRST READING.
10:26:49 THANK YOU.
10:26:51 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:26:53 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:26:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:26:57 WE'RE BOTH FIGHTING OVER THIS WONDERFUL PROPERTY.
10:26:59 FILE NUMBER E2019-8 CH 27 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:27:08 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
10:27:09 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY
10:27:12 TAX EXEMPTION, APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
10:27:15 RENOVATION, OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED
10:27:18 BY JOHN AND VIVIAN TENNISON, LOCATED AT 5102 NORTH
10:27:23 CENTRAL AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:27:26 LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS;
10:27:30 PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
10:27:32 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
10:27:35 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;
10:27:38 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:41 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:27:43 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:45 ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:27:49 >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10:27:52 JANUARY 9, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:27:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:55 NEXT WE MOVE TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10:27:56 I'LL GO THROUGH THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED AS WE GO.
10:27:59 COUNCILMAN CITRO, IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING PUBLIC SAFETY
10:28:01 ITEMS 4-7.
10:28:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:28:04 I MOVE ITEMS 4-7.
10:28:05 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:28:08 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:10 ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:11 COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS AND REC.
10:28:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEMS 8 THROUGH 10 -- 8 THROUGH 13, SIR.
10:28:21 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:28:23 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:28:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:26 ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, 14-27 OMITTING IF YOU WOULD
10:28:30 PLEASE, 23.
10:28:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ACTUALLY, I RESOLVED MY QUESTIONS ON
10:28:35 23.
10:28:36 UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL MOVE ITEMS
10:28:41 14 THROUGH 27.
10:28:42 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:28:44 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:46 ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:47 OKAY.
10:28:50 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ITEMS 28 THROUGH 36, EXCLUDING 30.
10:28:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEMS 28 THROUGH 36 EXCLUDING
10:28:59 ITEM 30.
10:29:00 >>LUIS VIERA: DIDN'T SOMEBODY PULL 30?
10:29:02 I'M SO SORRY.
10:29:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 28 THROUGH 36.
10:29:07 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:10 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:29:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:12 ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:13 ACTUALLY, NO, I CIRCLED THAT TO SALUTE STEVE BERNSTEIN
10:29:16 WHO MANY OF US KNOW FOR GETTING ON THE PLANNING
10:29:18 COMMISSION AS WELL AS GIOVANNI CARDENAS WHO I MET WITH
10:29:21 AND SEEMS LIKE A VERY NICE YOUNG MAN.
10:29:23 WE LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR SERVICE.
10:29:26 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SIR, ITEMS 37 THROUGH 50, EXCLUDING
10:29:30 41, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
10:29:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MOVE ITEMS 37 THROUGH 50 EXCLUDING
10:29:36 41.
10:29:36 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY
10:29:39 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:29:40 ANY IN FAVOR?
10:29:41 ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:42 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOUR COMMITTEE EXCLUDING 55 AND
10:29:45 56.
10:29:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:29:50 >>LUIS VIERA: MARVELOUS, THANK YOU, SIR.
10:29:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
10:29:54 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:29:56 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:57 ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:59 OKAY.
10:29:59 NOW WE MOVED TO STAFF REPORTS.
10:30:02 I GUESS WE'LL BEGIN WITH 41.
10:30:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU MOVE 57?
10:30:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 57, MOVE TO SCHEDULE THAT REVIEW
10:30:13 HEARING FOR FEBRUARY 20th, 2020 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:30:17 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:30:19 [INAUDIBLE]
10:30:19 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:30:20 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:30:22 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:30:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:30:24 ANY OPPOSED?
10:30:25 OKAY.
10:30:26 NEXT WE MOVE TO THE PULLED ITEM FOR TODAY, AS WELL AS
10:30:30 STAFF REPORTS.
10:30:32 WE'LL DO 41.
10:30:33 WHO FROM THE CITY IS HERE FOR 41?
10:30:37 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:30:39 ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL COUNSEL.
10:30:41 JUST A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
10:30:43 WE DID PROVIDE WITH YOU A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
10:30:44 THE ORIGINAL COPY OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS UPLOADED DID
10:30:48 NOT INCLUDE IN THE TITLE THE REFERENCE TO THE FINANCIAL
10:30:52 COMMITMENT OF THE CITY.
10:30:53 I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THAT SO WE DID
10:30:57 PREPARE A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
10:31:00 AND IN THAT REGARD, I THINK OTHER PEOPLE ARE HERE TO
10:31:04 SPEAK TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MEMORANDUM OF
10:31:06 UNDERSTANDING, BUT JUST SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, THE
10:31:10 PRIVATE PARTIES, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY HAVE AGREED TO A
10:31:14 THREE-WAY SPLIT TO WHAT IS THIS VERY LARGE-SCALE PLANNING
10:31:21 STUDY EFFORT.
10:31:25 THE ESTIMATE OF SERVICES WAS ESTIMATED AT A HIGH-END
10:31:32 PRICE OF 2.1 MILLION.
10:31:33 IT'S EXPECTED TO BE MUCH LESS THAN THAT.
10:31:35 IT IS A THREE-WAY SPLIT, SO THE CITY'S PORTION OF THAT IS
10:31:38 NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $666,666.
10:31:46 UNFORTUNATELY, WE ENDED UP WITH THE SIGN OF THE DEVIL IN
10:31:48 OUR AMOUNT.
10:31:49 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:31:49 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHY THE NEED FOR
10:31:56 THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
10:31:57 NOTHING ELSE CHANGED.
10:31:58 THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WAS APPROVED BY THE
10:32:00 COUNTY COMMISSION YESTERDAY, AND WE DO HAVE A SIGNED COPY
10:32:05 HERE.
10:32:05 AGAIN, I THINK THERE ARE OTHERS WHO WILL SPEAK TO THE
10:32:08 SUBSTANCE OF IT UNLESS YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS OF ME.
10:32:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE, THE RESOLUTION LISTED AS
10:32:16 A SUBSTITUTE IN THE AGENDA IS BEING SUBSTITUTED BY
10:32:18 ANOTHER ONE OR IS IT A SUBSTITUTE OF A SUBSTITUTE OR IS
10:32:21 IT JUST A SUBSTITUTE?
10:32:22 I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
10:32:27 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE RESOLUTION -- THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE
10:32:29 RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDES THE FINANCIAL AMOUNT IN THE
10:32:34 TITLE, AND THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS THE SUBSTITUTE FOR THE
10:32:37 ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, WHICH LEFT THAT OUT.
10:32:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M CLEAR NOW.
10:32:41 THANK YOU.
10:32:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:32:42 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. ZELMAN?
10:32:43 MR. SHARP, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, SIR.
10:32:47 YESTERDAY, MR. SHARP AND OTHERS SPOKE AT THE COUNTY
10:32:52 COMMISSION AND OUR FRIENDS AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION
10:32:54 PASSED THIS MOU 7-0.
10:32:56 SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HEAR YOU, SIR.
10:32:59 >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE
10:33:03 BACK BEFORE YOU.
10:33:04 WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PAST TO COME AND GIVE
10:33:08 UPDATES ON ACTIVITIES WITH THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS
10:33:12 KNOWN AS THE TAMPA INNOVATION PARTNERSHIP.
10:33:13 MY NAME IS MARK SHARPE.
10:33:15 I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ORGANIZATION.
10:33:19 OUR ORGANIZATION, AGAIN, IS A COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP
10:33:22 OF MANY MEMBERS.
10:33:23 THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, MOFFITT CANCER, ADVENT
10:33:29 HEALTH, THE UNIVERSITY MALL OWNERSHIP, RD MANAGEMENT, THE
10:33:36 VA HOSPITAL.
10:33:38 WE HAVE BUSCH GARDENS.
10:33:40 WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE ADVISORY BOARD AND COMMITTEE AND
10:33:44 REPRESENTED BY CLARENCE ENG, WHO IS OUR CHAIR, AND ALAN
10:33:50 DENHAM, WHO IS WITH TAMPA ELECTRIC, IS ALSO HERE AND AN
10:33:52 ACTIVE MEMBER OF OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
10:33:54 OUR LAST EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING, WE OFFICIALLY
10:33:59 INTRODUCED SARAH COMBS WHO HAD BEEN ACTIVE WITH OUR
10:34:04 ORGANIZATION, HAD BEEN ACTIVE WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
10:34:06 AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH MORT ELEMENTARY AND THE
10:34:08 COMMUNITY SCHOOL THERE, BUT SHE WAS FORMALLY ACCEPTED AS
10:34:11 A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD.
10:34:14 IS NOW THE UACDC IS ALSO A MEMBER OF OUR EXECUTIVE BOARD,
10:34:18 BUT ALSO A PARTNER IN THIS, WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE AN
10:34:22 HISTORIC COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO, AS YOUR FIRST PUBLIC
10:34:26 SPEAKER INDICATED, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ISSUES OF NOT
10:34:31 JUST THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
10:34:33 YES, THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS MOU REFLECT BUSCH BOULEVARD
10:34:38 TO THE SOUTH, BEARSS TO THE NORTH, THE 275 AND 50th
10:34:43 STREET TO THE WEST.
10:34:44 THOSE ARE THE BENEFIT AREAS KNOWN AS THE INNOVATION
10:34:50 DISTRICT AREA.
10:34:51 WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN WHERE WE BRING
10:34:53 TOGETHER THE CITY, THE COUNTY, OUR PARTNERS, NEIGHBORHOOD
10:34:59 ASSOCIATIONS, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, TO DO SOMETHING TO
10:35:04 CREATE A MORE SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE COMMUNITY IN
10:35:08 TAMPA BAY.
10:35:09 WE BELIEVE THAT THE BENEFITS WILL ACCRUE AND IN THE VERY
10:35:14 FIRST WHEREAS IN YOUR MOU, IT ADDRESSES THE SOCIETAL
10:35:18 IMPACTS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS, WHICH INTERESTINGLY
10:35:20 ENOUGH, THE SPEAKERS HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY DISCUSSED MANY
10:35:25 OF THEM, ISSUES OF EMPLOYMENT.
10:35:28 ISSUES OF CRIME, ISSUES OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, ISSUES
10:35:31 OF TRANSPORTATION AND ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION.
10:35:33 MANY OF US USE PUBLIC TRANSIT DAILY, AND WE EXPERIENCE
10:35:38 WHAT THOSE WHO HAVE NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO USE PUBLIC
10:35:42 TRANSIT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EVEN OWN
10:35:46 AN AUTOMOBILE TO GET TO WORK.
10:35:47 HAVE TO RELY ON PUBLIC TRANSIT.
10:35:49 WE'RE HERE TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
10:35:51 I ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE MR. BO KEMP.
10:35:57 MR. KEMP WAS MR. BOOKER'S -- CORY BOOKER'S DEPUTY MAYOR
10:36:01 IN NEWARK.
10:36:02 AND MR. KEMP IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE ISSUES OF
10:36:08 OPPORTUNITY ZONES, AND HOW OPPORTUNITY ZONES, WHEN DONE
10:36:12 PROPERLY, CAN HELP LIFT A COMMUNITY.
10:36:16 AND A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR INNOVATION DISTRICT TO THE
10:36:19 WEST OF THE UNIVERSITY, TO THE WEST OF THE MALL AREA, AND
10:36:24 SOUTH INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA IS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
10:36:28 SO WE'VE HIRED MR. KEMP TO PARTNER WITH US AS WE BUILD
10:36:33 THIS PLAN, WHICH WE WILL BE WORKING ON OVER THE NEXT 365
10:36:37 DAYS, TAKING EXISTING STUDIES, TAKING EXISTING WORK,
10:36:42 MS. MONTELIONE, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER MS. MONTELIONE GOT
10:36:46 UP AND TALKED ABOUT THE TERRACE PARK STUDY THAT HAS BEEN
10:36:50 CONDUCTED.
10:36:50 WE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE SITTING DOWN WITH HER ORGANIZATION
10:36:53 AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
10:36:55 INCORPORATE INTO THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE WILL BE
10:36:59 PRESENTING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL AS WELL AS TO THE COUNTY
10:37:03 COMMISSION, ALL THE SALIENT AND RELEVANT PARTS TO MAKE
10:37:07 SURE THAT WE PRODUCE A PLAN THAT UPLIFTS THE ENTIRE
10:37:11 COMMUNITY.
10:37:11 THERE ARE 87,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE BENEFIT AREA
10:37:16 THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING.
10:37:17 87,000.
10:37:18 IT IS GOING TO TAKE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO THE
10:37:24 OUTREACH.
10:37:25 BUT THE PLAN CALLS FOR US TO SIT DOWN AND OUTREACH WITH
10:37:28 THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
10:37:29 WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING OF GREAT
10:37:31 SIGNIFICANCE.
10:37:32 I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. CHRIS BOWEN.
10:37:34 MR. BOWEN IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE TAMPA INNOVATION
10:37:38 PARTNERSHIP.
10:37:38 HE ALSO WORKS WITH THE UNIVERSITY MALL AND FOR THE
10:37:42 UNIVERSITY MALL.
10:37:43 AND HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE BENEFITS
10:37:47 AGREEMENT AND ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND OUR WORK
10:37:51 HERE TODAY.
10:37:58 >> THANK YOU.
10:37:59 CHRIS BOWEN, CURRENT CHAIR OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR THE
10:38:04 TAMPA INNOVATION PARTNERSHIP, ALSO AN EXECUTIVE WITH RD
10:38:08 MANAGEMENT, THE OWNER OF THE UNIVERSITY MALL PROPERTY.
10:38:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING SOME TIME AGAIN THIS
10:38:18 MORNING AND, CERTAINLY, THE REVIEW YOU'VE BEEN GOING
10:38:22 THROUGH.
10:38:22 I'M SURE SINCE THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, AND WE ASKED
10:38:25 FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENTERTAIN AND PUT TOGETHER THIS
10:38:29 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
10:38:30 I'LL BE VERY BRIEF THIS MORNING.
10:38:34 MARK DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF REALLY SUMMARIZING WHERE WE
10:38:37 ARE TODAY.
10:38:39 I JUST WANT TO STRESS A COUPLE OF KEY THINGS.
10:38:42 THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT MANY OF US NOW HAVE
10:38:47 EXECUTED, INCLUDING THE COUNTY, AND OUR MEMBERS OF OUR
10:38:53 EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE INNOVATION PARTNERSHIP IS THE
10:38:59 BEGINNING OF A MORE EXPANDED, A MUCH MORE EXPANDED GROUP
10:39:03 OF STAKEHOLDERS TO START TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW DO
10:39:11 YOU CREATE A BEST IN CLASS, NOT JUST AN INNOVATION
10:39:14 DISTRICT.
10:39:15 WE'VE BEEN USING THAT TERM A LOT, BUT IT'S REALLY AN
10:39:17 INNOVATION COMMUNITY DISTRICT, WHICH IS REALLY ONE OF THE
10:39:22 MOST FASCINATING THINGS THAT HAS STARTED TO REALLY EVOLVE
10:39:25 AROUND THE WORLD, WHERE IT'S NOT JUST ALL TECH ALL DAY
10:39:28 LONG.
10:39:28 IT'S NOT ALL WORK ALL DAY LONG.
10:39:31 IT'S COMMUNITY THAT IS AT THE HEART OF AND ALL THE
10:39:36 BENEFITS AND THE WONDERS OF HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD IN A
10:39:41 COMMUNITY STRUCTURE AND RESOURCE THAT INFUSES INTO THE
10:39:47 INNOVATION SIDE OF THINGS AND THEN THE INNOVATION COMES
10:39:51 BACK AND INFUSES INTO THE COMMUNITY.
10:39:53 THERE HAS TO BE THAT SYNERGY, THAT INTEGRATION, THAT
10:39:58 FOLLOWS ANOTHER PART, ANOTHER CHARACTERISTIC OF AN
10:40:01 INNOVATION COMMUNITY.
10:40:02 ITS CONNECTIVITY.
10:40:06 EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED BLOCK BY BLOCK, PHYSICALLY AND
10:40:09 VIRTUALLY.
10:40:10 WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY HERE IN WHAT MANY OF US
10:40:15 CALL THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
10:40:16 WE'RE NOW ALSO CALLING IT THE UPTOWN DISTRICT.
10:40:19 BOTH ARE VERY APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE HAVE, BUT THE
10:40:26 INTERESTING ASPECT OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TALKING
10:40:28 ABOUT IS THAT OVER THE PAST HALF CENTURY, MORE THAN A
10:40:34 HALF CENTURY, WE'VE HAD THIS ORGANIC EXPERIMENT AND
10:40:39 ACTIVITY GOING ON, CLUSTERED VERY TIGHTLY TO ONE ANOTHER
10:40:44 IN THAT WE HAVE THIS, I BELIEVE THE 7th LARGEST PUBLIC
10:40:48 RESEARCH UNIVERSITY IN AMERICA AND THEN AROUND THAT, WE
10:40:52 HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST TOP THREE EASY MEDICAL DISTRICTS
10:40:57 AND MEDICAL RESEARCH DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:41:03 AND THEN WOVEN AROUND THAT, WE HAVE THIS VERY RAPIDLY
10:41:07 GROWING TECHNOLOGY RING OF ALL FACETS OF INNOVATION.
10:41:14 AND THEN WRAPPED AROUND THAT, WE HAVE WHAT WAS RANCH
10:41:19 LAND.
10:41:20 NOT TOO LONG AGO, 50 YEARS AGO, MOST OF IT, AND THEN THE
10:41:24 COUNTRYSIDE AND EVEN SUBURBAN AND NOW IT'S AN URBAN AREA
10:41:28 OF NEIGHBORHOODS, MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:41:30 NOT JUST ONE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT MANY TYPES OF
10:41:34 NEIGHBORHOODS AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN COMING UP
10:41:39 AND FILLING IN, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS CREATE
10:41:46 A FRAMEWORK FOR ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS, ALL OF THE
10:41:51 STAKEHOLDERS TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TOGETHER BOTH
10:41:53 PHYSICALLY, MOVING, WE THINK, FROM WHERE WE HAVE THIS BIG
10:41:57 TECH CLUSTER AND MEDICAL CLUSTER AND ACADEMIC CLUSTER,
10:42:02 AND MOVING THAT NOW OUT OF THEIR GATES, OUT OF THEIR
10:42:07 ENCLAVES AND INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:42:10 THAT WOULD, AGAIN, PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS TO
10:42:13 UNDERSTAND THE BEST WAY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO
10:42:16 EVOLVE.
10:42:17 THE BEST WAY FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
10:42:20 TO EVOLVE, BUT TO EVOLVE TOGETHER IN A MIXED USE, A
10:42:26 CONNECTED, A WALKABLE COMMUNITY FOCUSED ENVIRONMENT.
10:42:31 THAT IS THE FUTURE OF INNOVATION.
10:42:33 IT REALLY IS.
10:42:34 THAT'S ONE OF THE SHIFTS THAT'S BEEN OCCURRING GLOBALLY
10:42:38 IS THAT INNOVATORS DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE IN OFFICE
10:42:42 PARKS AND ALL WORK, NO PLAY TYPE ENVIRONMENTS.
10:42:48 THEY WANT TO BE IN THE MIX OF SOMETHING THAT REALLY
10:42:55 ALLOWS THEM -- REALLY PULLS OUT WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO
10:43:00 CREATE AS INNOVATORS.
10:43:02 PULLS IT OUT OF THEM AND GIVES IT ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE AND
10:43:06 CAN SEE IT THROUGH OTHERS' EYES WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO
10:43:08 DO.
10:43:08 THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE BEST AND GREATEST INVENTION THAT
10:43:13 THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CREATE.
10:43:15 THEY NEED TO BE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND EMBEDDED WITH
10:43:18 THE ARTISTS, WITH NEIGHBORS OF ALL KINDS, WITH BUSINESS
10:43:24 OPPORTUNITIES, WITH RESOURCES, WITH THINKERS AND DOERS.
10:43:30 THEY WANT THAT VIBRANT MIX AND THAT COMMUNITY.
10:43:35 THAT'S WHAT I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING ON WITH OUR
10:43:42 COMMUNITY, AND I SAY THAT NOT JUST OUR LOCAL STREETS OR
10:43:47 LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS IS A TAMPA BAY REGION, THIS IS
10:43:50 A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, A CITY OF TAMPA.
10:43:52 THIS IS A TAMPA BAY REGION INITIATIVE THAT IS SOMETHING
10:43:56 FOR US TO CREATE AND GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN
10:44:01 LET THAT COMMUNITY TAKE IT AS FAR AS THEY CAN TAKE IT.
10:44:05 THANK YOU.
10:44:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:44:07 ANYTHING ELSE?
10:44:07 OKAY.
10:44:09 JUST BEFORE -- I KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS A FEW
10:44:13 QUESTIONS AND OTHERS I KNOW WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS.
10:44:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU'LL GO NEXT, SIR.
10:44:19 I COME TO THIS WEARING A LOT OF DIFFERENT HATS.
10:44:27 FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'M COUNCILMAN FOR THIS DISTRICT,
10:44:29 DISTRICT 7.
10:44:30 I'M VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
10:44:32 BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER HATS THAT I WEAR IN THIS
10:44:34 DIALOGUE THAT MAKE THIS VERY, VERY PERSONAL FOR ME.
10:44:38 I GREW UP IN TEMPLE TERRACE, FOWLER, BUSCH, UNIVERSITY
10:44:40 MALL, ET CETERA, WERE MY OLD STOMPING GROUNDS AS A KID.
10:44:44 I HAVE A LOT OF MEMORIES OUT THERE.
10:44:45 A LOT OF GOOD MEMORIES.
10:44:47 ALL OVER TEMPLE TERRACE AND IN THE NORTH TAMPA AREA, AND
10:44:50 I'VE SEEN THE EVOLUTION OF THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST
10:44:54 20, 30 YEARS, AND IT HASN'T BEEN A COMMUNITY -- WE TALK
10:44:58 ABOUT THAT RISING TIDE THAT LIFTS ALL BOATS.
10:45:01 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND LARGER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THAT
10:45:03 RISING TIDE HAS NOT LIFTED THE BOAT OF NORTH TAMPA.
10:45:06 IN FACT, THAT BOAT HAS BEEN SINKING LITTLE BY LITTLE BY
10:45:09 LITTLE AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE SINKING BECAUSE I GREW
10:45:11 UP IN THAT AREA.
10:45:12 I ALSO WANTED TO SALUTE -- ANOTHER HAT THAT I WEAR, SO TO
10:45:16 SPEAK, WHICH IS MR. SHARPE WHO IS HERE.
10:45:20 WE'VE SEEN MR. MARK SHARPE GROW FROM BEING A COUNTY
10:45:23 COMMISSIONER TO A PERSON WHO LEFT PUBLIC SERVICE AFTER
10:45:26 EIGHT YEARS TO CONTINUE IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
10:45:29 I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SEE YOUR
10:45:31 JOURNEY.
10:45:32 IT'S PERSONAL FOR ME IN A SENSE AND MARK KNOWS THIS, MY
10:45:35 FIRST CAMPAIGN THAT I WAS EVER INVOLVED IN WAS IN 1996
10:45:38 WHEN MR. SHARPE RAN FOR CONGRESS AND I WAS NOT
10:45:41 VOLUNTEERING FOR HIM, BY THE WAY.
10:45:43 SO I ALWAYS HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR MARK SHARPE IN MY HEART
10:45:48 BECAUSE I THINK HE IS A GOOD MAN AND TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT.
10:45:51 BUT WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AGREEMENT, WE GOT TO
10:45:53 BREAK DOWN THE ELEMENTS OF IT, THE ELEMENTS OF THE
10:45:55 MANDATES THAT THIS AGREEMENT HAS.
10:46:00 ONE OF THEM IS THE INVOLVED PARTIES.
10:46:01 FORMER COMMISSIONER SHARPE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THESE
10:46:04 DIFFERENT PARTIES.
10:46:05 I THINK THEY SPEAK TO THE DIVERSITY OF THIS AGREEMENT.
10:46:08 MOFFITT CANCER CENTER, USF, RD MANAGEMENT, ADVENT HEALTH,
10:46:12 ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ALL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE
10:46:14 BIT.
10:46:15 THE INVOLVED BOUNDARIES IS REALLY, REALLY A GAME-CHANGER
10:46:18 FOR US, TO INCLUDE BUSCH BOULEVARD IN THIS SAYS THAT THIS
10:46:21 IS AN AGREEMENT THAT IS LOOKING BEYOND PROCEDURE AND
10:46:25 GOING TOWARDS THE IDEA OF SUBSTANCE.
10:46:27 WE'RE LOOKING AT A LARGER CORRIDOR FOR THIS AREA.
10:46:31 THE TRANSIT CORRIDOR, THE RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR, THE
10:46:34 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
10:46:35 WE REALIZE THAT BUSCH BOULEVARD IS AN AREA THAT HAS
10:46:37 CONCURRENTLY BEEN NEGLECTED.
10:46:39 AGAIN, BEING ONE OF THOSE SHIPS THAT HAS NOT BEEN RISING
10:46:42 BUT CONTINUES TO FALL.
10:46:45 ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES IS ALSO THE IDEA OF ENGAGEMENT.
10:46:48 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE MANDATE OF ENGAGEMENT THAT THIS
10:46:50 AGREEMENT CARRIES WITH US IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, I
10:46:54 THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO IS HERE.
10:46:57 I SEE MY WONDERFUL CONSTITUENT AND MY FRIEND MS. SARAH
10:46:59 COMBS IS HERE WITH THE UACDC.
10:47:03 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE IDEAS THAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE ON
10:47:05 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, I THINK ABOUT THE UACDC.
10:47:09 WHEN I THINK ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE, I THINK ABOUT THE
10:47:13 UACDC.
10:47:14 WHEN I THINK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK ABOUT THE
10:47:14 UACDC.
10:47:15 WHEN I THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY AND ENGAGEMENT, I THINK
10:47:17 ABOUT THE UACDC.
10:47:18 SO MY ANSWER IS, ON THE ISSUE OF ENGAGEMENT, IF YOU THINK
10:47:21 THAT THE UACDC WOULD TOUCH WITH THEIR PINKIE AN AGREEMENT
10:47:25 OR AN ENDEAVOR THAT WOULD LEAVE OUT THE COMMUNITY, NOT
10:47:28 ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER THING COMING,
10:47:30 BECAUSE THAT IS THE UACDC.
10:47:32 AND THEY HAVE A REP TO FULFILL, AND THEY ARE FULFILLING
10:47:35 IT 110%.
10:47:36 I SAY THIS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THIS AREA THAT HAS
10:47:39 ALWAYS BEEN ENGAGED.
10:47:40 JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, YESTERDAY, I WENT THROUGH MY
10:47:44 RECORDS ON THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR TOWN HALLS
10:47:46 I'VE HAD JUST SINCE MY REELECTION, JUST FOR THE NORTH
10:47:49 TAMPA AREA WHERE I BROUGHT UP THE REDEVELOPMENT AND
10:47:52 REINVESTMENT OF THE USF AND NORTH TAMPA AREA. I FOUND
10:47:56 SIX.
10:47:56 ABOUT SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT Facebook POSTS ON THIS ISSUE.
10:48:00 WHY?
10:48:00 BECAUSE I'M A COUNCILMAN THAT ENGAGES.
10:48:03 I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
10:48:03 I'M AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO TAKES THAT VERY, VERY
10:48:07 SERIOUSLY.
10:48:07 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AGREEMENT, I TAKE IT AS A MANDATE TO
10:48:10 CONTINUE TO DO WHAT I'VE BEEN PROUD TO DO THE LAST YEARS
10:48:13 WHICH IS ENGAGE.
10:48:14 WE'LL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITIES IN THAT REGARD.
10:48:17 THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE ALSO SO
10:48:19 RELEVANT TO THIS.
10:48:20 THIS IS ALSO A MOVE OF INVESTING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:48:24 YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE INVESTED A LOT IN
10:48:27 DOWNTOWN.
10:48:27 WE'VE MADE A LOT OF MARKS FORWARD IN DOWNTOWN.
10:48:30 WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE
10:48:32 ACHIEVED A LOT AS THE CITY OF DOWNTOWN, BUT WE REALIZE
10:48:36 THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED.
10:48:38 WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN
10:48:40 NEGLECTED, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT EAST TAMPA, SULPHUR
10:48:42 SPRINGS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, USF, NORTH TAMPA, THE
10:48:46 FOWLER AND BUSCH AREA ARE PART AND PARCEL OF THOSE
10:48:49 NEIGHBORHOODS AND THOSE COMMUNITIES BEING LEFT BEHIND.
10:48:52 THIS IS ALSO AN ENDEAVOR THAT TALKS ABOUT ISSUES LIKE
10:48:55 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:48:56 I SAY THAT I WILL NOT SUPPORT -- I WILL NOT SUPPORT AN
10:49:00 AGREEMENT THAT IS ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH PUTS PEOPLE
10:49:05 LAST.
10:49:06 I WANT TO INVEST IN HUMAN CAPITAL.
10:49:08 I WANT TO INVEST IN THE PEOPLE IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
10:49:10 YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THESE COMMUNITIES, THESE ARE MY
10:49:12 CONSTITUENTS WHO I KNOW WELL.
10:49:14 YOU TALK TO THESE MEN AND WOMEN AND THESE FAMILIES, AND
10:49:16 THEY HAVE LIVES THAT MATTER A HECK OF A LOT TO US.
10:49:20 AND THEY ARE GOING TO MATTER OF A HECK OF A LOT TO THIS
10:49:23 AGREEMENT.
10:49:23 THIS AGREEMENT PUTS HUMAN CAPITAL FIRST AND THE
10:49:25 ENGAGEMENT PROCESS OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS AND HOPEFULLY
10:49:28 IT WILL BE SHORTER THAN THAT, IS GOING TO PUT THOSE
10:49:30 PEOPLE FIRST.
10:49:31 THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT.
10:49:33 THIS IS ALSO PART OF A LARGER VISION FOR THE NORTH TAMPA
10:49:36 AREA WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES OF TRANSPORTATION, OF MASS
10:49:39 TRANSIT, OF SAFE STREETS AND OF MAKING NORTH TAMPA
10:49:43 FINALLY A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY WHERE
10:49:47 PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS ARE SAFE.
10:49:48 THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WORKS HAND IN HAND
10:49:51 WITH MANY, MANY EFFORTS.
10:49:53 IT IS THE RIGHT TIME.
10:49:54 WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE TABLE.
10:49:55 AND I WANT TO ALSO END BY A PARTICULAR RIGHT PERSON THAT
10:49:59 WE HAVE AT THE TABLE THAT I AM 110% INDEBTED TO, AND THAT
10:50:03 WOULD BE MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
10:50:05 THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR SUPPORTING THIS ENDEAVOR.
10:50:07 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
10:50:09 THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISION IN PUTTING THIS ISSUE FIRST.
10:50:12 RIGHT WHEN I GOT ELECTED OR REELECTED, I SHOULD SAY, I
10:50:16 CAME TO MAYOR CASTOR AND SAID, LOOK, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
10:50:19 DO ABOUT THE USF AREA?
10:50:20 SHE SAID I'M 110% BEHIND THESE EFFORTS.
10:50:23 AND THAT WAS JUST ENCOURAGING.
10:50:25 I THINK THAT THAT CERTAINLY SET THE TONE.
10:50:28 I ALWAYS JOKED THAT IF WE KNOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE
10:50:31 ARE BISHOPS OR CARDINALS TO THE MAYOR'S HOPE HERE IN OUR
10:50:35 LOCAL SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT AND THE POPE HAS LED WELL ON
10:50:37 THIS ISSUE.
10:50:38 SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
10:50:40 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:50:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, FOR YOUR
10:50:43 LEADERSHIP.
10:50:43 I HEAR THE PASSION IN YOUR VOICE FOR THIS PARTICULAR
10:50:48 ITEM.
10:50:48 I'M HAPPY THAT YOU FEEL THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN
10:50:53 HERE THAT WILL HELP.
10:50:54 THE AREA, THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
10:50:55 BUT I'VE GOT A FEW CONCERNS AND I HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM
10:50:59 BECAUSE I WOULDN'T BE A GOOD COUNCILMAN IF I DIDN'T
10:51:02 ADDRESS THEM FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE WE SHARE THE
10:51:04 DISTRICT.
10:51:05 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES.
10:51:06 I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO A AGREEMENT THAT I
10:51:11 THINK WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY WITH THE -- BECAUSE OF
10:51:15 WHAT WE HAVE UP IN THAT AREA, BUT I DON'T THINK WE KNOW
10:51:17 WHAT THE NORTH TAMPA AREA IS, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE
10:51:21 NORTH TAMPA AREA, AND WE LOOK AT NORTH TAMPA, FOR MANY OF
10:51:26 THESE, I'VE HAD PROGRAMS IN NORTH TAMPA, AND WE SHARE A
10:51:29 BOUNDARY OF FOWLER AVENUE.
10:51:31 A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS I HAVE, KIDS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
10:51:33 THE STREET COME TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET.
10:51:37 THE KIDS FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF BUSCH WILL COME UP TO
10:51:39 THOSE AREAS.
10:51:40 BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT TELLS ME
10:51:43 ANYTHING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WHICH WE'RE SAYING THE
10:51:45 UP TOWN NORTH TAMPA AREA FOR THE PEOPLE OF SULPHUR
10:51:48 SPRINGS.
10:51:48 THAT IS MY CONCERN.
10:51:50 BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE TYPE OF --
10:51:53 AT THE UNIVERSITY.
10:51:54 REALLY, ABOUT BUSCH GARDENS.
10:51:56 THE MAJOR CORNERSTONE OF THAT AREA.
10:51:59 TALK ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY ALL DAY LONG, BUT PEOPLE COME
10:52:01 TO TAMPA ABOUT BUSCH GARDENS.
10:52:04 I'M GOING TO BE FRANK WITH YOU.
10:52:05 MY THING IS, THOSE FOLKS ON THE SOUTHERN END, BECAUSE I
10:52:08 CARRY THE SOUTHERN END, AND COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS SOME OF
10:52:12 THOSE FOLKS THAT DROPPED OUT OF THE SOUTHERN END.
10:52:16 MY CONCERN WITH THE AGREEMENT, WE'RE NOT CAPTURING
10:52:18 EVERYONE.
10:52:19 I THINK THE BOUNDARY IS TOO SHORT.
10:52:21 BECAUSE WHAT I SEE IN THIS DOCUMENT HERE, WHICH IS A GOOD
10:52:23 DOCUMENT.
10:52:23 I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S NOT.
10:52:25 BUT IT'S MISSING A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE BECAUSE WHAT I SEE
10:52:30 IS IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT, YES, SOME FOLKS, NOT ALL FOLKS,
10:52:33 BUT THOSE BLIGHTED AREAS THAT REALLY ARE GOING TO
10:52:35 BENEFIT, THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
10:52:37 THAT MEANS THE UNIVERSITY AREA PAST FOWLER INTO FLETCHER
10:52:40 BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEARSS AVENUE.
10:52:43 BUT IT AIN'T TOUCHING NOBODY SOUTH OF BUSCH BOULEVARD.
10:52:47 THAT'S A BLIGHTED AREA FOR YEARS.
10:52:49 SO I HAVE TO MENTION THAT, MR. SHARPE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
10:52:53 GOING TO QUESTION ME, IF I VOTE A CERTAIN WAY, THEY'LL
10:52:56 SAY, WHY DID YOU NOT MENTION SULPHUR SPRINGS IN THE
10:53:00 INNOVATION ZONE WHEN YOU KNOW IT BORDERS ON BUSCH
10:53:03 BOULEVARD?
10:53:03 SO I HAVE TO ASK YOU THAT QUESTION, SIR, WHY IS THAT NOT
10:53:05 INCLUDED?
10:53:05 I RESPECT THE DOCUMENT.
10:53:07 I HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
10:53:09 >> I DEEPLY RESPECT YOUR QUESTION AND YOUR PASSION, SIR.
10:53:13 AND SHARE YOUR CONCERN FOR THE SULFUR SPRING COMMUNITY.
10:53:15 WHEN I FIRST BECAME A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, I WAS BORN AND
10:53:19 RAISED IN TAMPA.
10:53:20 BORN AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
10:53:23 WENT TO USF GOT MY MASTERS THERE WHILE SERVING AT U.S.
10:53:26 CENTRAL COMMAND.
10:53:27 DID RESERVE DUTY AT SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND.
10:53:30 I WOULD TAKE THE DRIVE UP I-275 AND GO TO THE UNIVERSITY
10:53:34 AREA AND I WOULD GET OFF AT BUSCH BOULEVARD OR OFF AT
10:53:37 FOWLER, LIKE MANY OF YOU.
10:53:39 WHAT I WOULD EVEN SEE BEFORE I GOT OFF ON THE INTERSTATE
10:53:42 WAS A SIGN THAT WOULD SAY, WORLD'S LARGEST FLEA MARKET.
10:53:45 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE.
10:53:47 I'M HEADING TOWARDS A MAJOR UNIVERSITY, GOING TOWARDS THE
10:53:50 VA HOSPITAL, WHERE MANY SOLDIERS REHABILITATE, 10,000
10:53:57 PEOPLE A DAY COME AND VISIT THE VA HOSPITAL WITH THEIR
10:54:02 FAMILIES, AND THEY GET OFF AND THEY EXPERIENCE -- AND
10:54:07 THIS IS OUR GATEWAY, WHETHER BUSCH BOULEVARD ENTRANCE,
10:54:11 THE FOWLER AVENUE ENTRANCE OR THE FLETCHER ENTRANCE, WHAT
10:54:15 THEY EXPERIENCE IS LESS THAN OUR BEST.
10:54:16 AS A COMMISSIONER, I ASKED OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT
10:54:21 THE TIME, WHY AREN'T WE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AREA?
10:54:24 HER RESPONSE WAS, WELL, IT'S JUST NOT OUR PROBLEM.
10:54:27 AND THAT SET ME OFF ON A JOURNEY.
10:54:31 I GOT A BIG SATELLITE MAP, PUT IT UP ON THE WALL IN MY
10:54:37 OFFICE, EVERY TIME SHE CAME IN, I SAID, NO, THAT'S NOT
10:54:43 OUR PROBLEM.
10:54:44 THAT IS OUR OPPORTUNITY.
10:54:46 THAT AREA, IF WE PARTNER WITH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, AND
10:54:52 THAT'S THE WATER STREET PROJECT IN DOWNTOWN.
10:54:55 THAT IS THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT, IF WE PARTNER AND
10:54:58 CONNECT, WE CAN LIFT UP OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
10:55:02 YES, SIR, WE HAD A SET OF BOUNDARIES, AND WE TALKED ABOUT
10:55:05 A BENEFIT AREA, BUT THE BENEFIT AREA EXTENDS FAR BEYOND
10:55:09 THE LINE ON A MAP.
10:55:11 IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEMBERS OF OUR ORGANIZATION, THEY GO
10:55:14 WELL BEYOND, THE BUSINESSES OR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE
10:55:18 DIRECTLY WITHIN THE BENEFIT AREA.
10:55:21 I SAT DOWN WITH LOWRY PARK ZOO.
10:55:23 THEY ARE LIKE, WHERE ARE WE IN ALL THIS?
10:55:24 WE WANT TO BE PARKED.
10:55:26 WE KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE LEFT OUT HERE.
10:55:30 I TALKED WITH THE AIRPORT ABOUT THEIR BEING INVOLVED.
10:55:32 WE WILL ACTIVELY WORK WITH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, THE
10:55:37 BENEFITS WILL IMPROVE FAR BEYOND ANY LINE WE PUT ON THE
10:55:43 MAP, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF REPRESENTING AND CREATING AN
10:55:48 AREA WHICH CAN, I BELIEVE, GENERATE THE TYPE OF SUSTAINED
10:55:54 GROWTH THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A CORE,
10:55:58 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING OUR ANCHORS
10:56:00 TO DO WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AT GROWING IS THAT THEY HELP
10:56:03 KIND OF CREATE THIS CORE AREA OF RESEARCH AND INNOVATION
10:56:07 THAT OUR CHAIR TALKED ABOUT, WHICH, WHEN WE PARTNER WITH
10:56:13 SARAH AND THE UACDC AND OTHERS, AND WE IMPLEMENT AND WE
10:56:19 WILL BE STUDYING THIS THROUGH THE STUDY, THE COMMUNITY
10:56:21 BENEFITS AGREEMENT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING IS THAT
10:56:24 THE JOBS THAT WE CREATE WILL BE HIRING PEOPLE FROM WITHIN
10:56:28 THE COMMUNITY, BUT NO ONE IS GOING TO BE STOPPED AND
10:56:32 TOLD, BECAUSE YOU LIVE SOUTH OF BUSCH BOULEVARD, THE JOB
10:56:36 IS NOT FOR YOU.
10:56:37 WE'LL CREATE JOBS FOR ALL OF TAMPA BAY.
10:56:39 WE DO HAVE A BOUNDARY AREA AS THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT HAS
10:56:42 A BOUNDARY AREA, AS THE WATER STREET DISTRICT HAS A
10:56:45 BOUNDARY AREA, BUT WE ARE A COLLABORATIVE ORGANIZATION
10:56:50 INTENT ON ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
10:56:53 LET ME TELL YOU, SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE UNDERSTAND, SIR,
10:56:56 YOUR PASSION.
10:56:57 IT'S WHY I TOOK THIS JOB.
10:56:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS IT, THOUGH?
10:57:02 >> BECAUSE, SIR, WE'LL PROVIDE JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR
10:57:07 EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE
10:57:10 THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE JOBS WITH QUALITY TRANSIT.
10:57:14 AND WE'RE GOING TO LIFT UP THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE JOBS
10:57:20 THAT WE CREATE IN A WAY THAT WILL BENEFIT FAR BEYOND --
10:57:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TRANSIT NOT A BIG ISSUE IN SULPHUR
10:57:28 SPRINGS.
10:57:29 TRANSIT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
10:57:30 THE PROBLEM WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE COULD TALK ABOUT
10:57:36 JOBS, AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT TRANSIENT HOMELESSNESS, WE
10:57:39 COULD TALK ABOUT HOUSING.
10:57:44 SEE, THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT I'M FOCUSED ON.
10:57:46 IF WE'RE SAYING COMMUNITY BUSINESS AGREEMENTS, WHICH I'VE
10:57:49 BEEN SAYING FROM DAY ONE HERE FOR THE CITY, ARE THESE
10:57:54 COMMUNITY AGREEMENTS IS THAT GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE TRICK
10:57:58 OVER INTO SULPHUR SPRINGS?
10:58:01 HOW WILL THAT WORK WHEN WE SAY WE'RE HELPING ALL OF THE
10:58:04 COMMUNITY.
10:58:04 THAT'S MY CONCERN.
10:58:05 GREAT WE HAVE A PLAN TO TRY TO INNOVATE THAT AREA.
10:58:08 I HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE
10:58:10 JUST BELOW THE BOUNDARY MARK, HOW DO WE HELP THEM?
10:58:14 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, JUST TO ALSO ANSWER THAT AS WELL,
10:58:18 I ALWAYS SAY THAT THE INCLUSION OF SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN
10:58:20 THE EXCLUSION OF SOMETHING ELSE.
10:58:21 IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
10:58:24 YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
10:58:25 IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
10:58:28 YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT CHILD CARE.
10:58:29 IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHILD CARE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU
10:58:32 DON'T CARE ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS.
10:58:34 IN OTHER WORDS, ISSUES ARE SEPARATE FROM ONE AND THE
10:58:37 OTHER.
10:58:37 I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE HAVE TO
10:58:42 FIRST LAY THE PROPER POLICY BASE FOUNDATION.
10:58:44 FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY -- AND WE'D
10:58:46 HAVE TO GO WITH MR. SHELBY ON THIS -- BUT YOU AND I DOING
10:58:49 A TOWN HALL OUT THERE SO WE CAN BEGIN TO ENGAGE.
10:58:52 MARTY IS LIKE, OH, GEE WHIZ.
10:58:56 THAT'S SOMETHING, MY FRIEND, TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
10:58:58 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THIS MOTION AT
10:59:00 THE END, TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SPECIFIC TO THE UNIQUE, ACUTE
10:59:06 PROBLEMS OF SULPHUR SPRINGS, 110%.
10:59:10 I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WARRANTED.
10:59:12 BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE USF
10:59:15 AREA, NUMBER ONE, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY EXCLUDE ANY
10:59:19 BENEFIT TO SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:59:21 NUMBER TWO, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SULPHUR SPRINGS CAN'T
10:59:23 COME UP AS A ROBUST DISCUSSION.
10:59:25 JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN BOUNDARIES,
10:59:28 RIGHT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE EXCLUDING SOMETHING THAT
10:59:30 IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT BOUNDARY, WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT
10:59:34 IN AN EQUALLY ROBUST DISCUSSION THAT I WOULD PASSIONATELY
10:59:37 LOVE TO JUMP INTO.
10:59:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT
10:59:40 I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS DECENT, AND I WANT TO MAKE
10:59:48 SURE WE DON'T LEAVE OUT.
10:59:49 I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU HAVE ON THE INNOVATION TEAM OR
10:59:53 BOARD.
10:59:53 I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE
10:59:55 PEOPLE STILL IN THAT ZONE THAT ARE SUFFERING A LONG, LONG
11:00:01 TIME.
11:00:01 YET WE PUT THIS ROBUST CONTRACT INTO PLAY AND WE'RE GOING
11:00:04 TO HELP BENEFIT THE USF PEOPLE, BENEFIT THE MOFFITT
11:00:09 PEOPLE AND BENEFIT THE UACDC PEOPLE.
11:00:12 AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOW DO MY PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM OF
11:00:16 THE RIVER GET A LITTLE GOLD.
11:00:19 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME RESPOND TO THAT, IF I MAY.
11:00:21 AGAIN, THE UACDC PEOPLE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THAT
11:00:24 AREA, AND I SEE MS. COMBS SHAKING HER HEAD, THE MOST
11:00:28 DISADVANTAGED AND THE POOREST OF THE POOR, WE CAN DO A
11:00:31 WORKSHOP SPECIFICALLY WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS, COME UP WITH
11:00:34 SOME ROBUST DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
11:00:36 I MEAN, BUT, AGAIN, TALK ABOUT HEALTH CARE, DOESN'T MEAN
11:00:40 YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
11:00:41 TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T CARE
11:00:44 ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS.
11:00:44 ISSUES ARE DISTINCT FROM ONE ANOTHER, AND THIS IS
11:00:46 CERTAINLY ONE WHERE THE COMMON THEME, THE COMMON VALUES
11:00:50 OF SOCIAL JUSTICE AND ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT AND PROGRESS
11:00:53 FOR THE COMMUNITY WE'RE PUTTING HERE, WE CAN EQUALLY PUT
11:00:56 INTO SULPHUR SPRINGS AND I WOULD BE 110% BEHIND THAT.
11:01:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE, YOU
11:01:04 KNOW, UNDERSTAND, THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER PLANS IN THE
11:01:06 WORKS.
11:01:07 WE WON'T LEAVE THOSE FOLKS BEHIND.
11:01:09 THAT HAS TO BE KEY.
11:01:11 >> COUNCILMAN, YOU ASKED A GREAT QUESTION.
11:01:14 IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
11:01:15 YOU'RE STANDING UP FOR PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT.
11:01:18 A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
11:01:26 THIS IS THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO GET GOING, TO
11:01:29 START, AND CREATE THE TABLE, AND BRING THE STAKEHOLDERS
11:01:35 HERE.
11:01:36 IN THAT, IN CREATING THE FRAMEWORK, ONE OTHER THING WE'RE
11:01:40 TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO HARNESS THE ENGINE THAT
11:01:46 WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT'S AN INNOVATIVE -- IT'S AN
11:01:49 INNOVATION ENGINE.
11:01:51 IT'S THERE.
11:01:51 IT'S NOT LIKE -- THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND THE
11:01:54 COUNTRY THAT ARE TRYING TO CREATE INNOVATION DISTRICTS.
11:01:58 THEY HAVE NOTHING.
11:01:58 THEY DON'T HAVE A UNIVERSITY.
11:01:59 THEY DON'T HAVE A MEDICAL DISTRICT.
11:02:02 THEY HAVE NOTHING.
11:02:02 THEY ARE GOING TO START FROM SCRATCH.
11:02:05 IT'S A MONUMENTAL TASK.
11:02:07 WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND MOST COMMUNITIES'
11:02:14 WILDEST DREAMS IN TERMS OF A CLUSTER.
11:02:16 BUT WE HAVE NOT -- WE'RE NOT HARNESSING IT PROPERLY.
11:02:20 AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THIS NEXT STEP IS WE WANT TO
11:02:24 GET AROUND THE TABLE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT DO WE HAVE
11:02:29 THERE, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:02:31 WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS,
11:02:34 WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES?
11:02:36 THEN WE WANT TO HARNESS THIS HALF CENTURY OF INNOVATIVE
11:02:40 CLUSTER AND WE WANT TO DIRECT IT TO NOT JUST TECHNOLOGY
11:02:44 AND JOBS ISSUES, BUT TO SOCIAL ISSUES AND COMMUNITY
11:02:49 ISSUES, BECAUSE WE CAN, BECAUSE IT CAN DO THAT, BUT WE
11:02:53 HAVE TO HARNESS.
11:02:53 WHAT'S IN IT FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS?
11:02:58 TO WORK WITH US, TO HARNESS WHAT WE HAVE AND FOCUS IT IN
11:03:05 KEY SITUATIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THESE COMMUNITIES.
11:03:08 THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
11:03:10 TODAY WE'RE TRYING TO DO A STEP INTO SETTING THE TABLE.
11:03:15 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. BENNETT, DID YOU WANT TO SAY
11:03:17 SOMETHING, SIR?
11:03:17 GO AHEAD.
11:03:18 AND THEN WE'LL GET -- NEXT, I KNOW, COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS
11:03:22 AFTER COUNCILMAN GUDES, BUT TO NARROWLY TAILOR IT ON THE
11:03:26 ISSUES THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES IS ADDRESSING, I KNOW
11:03:28 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:03:31 BUT ONLY ON THOSE ISSUES.
11:03:34 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING.
11:03:35 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF, CITY OF TAMPA.
11:03:37 I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO BE AT THE TABLE WHEN THIS MOU WAS
11:03:41 BEING DRAFTED.
11:03:42 SULPHUR SPRINGS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART LIKE IT IS
11:03:45 TO EVERYBODY UP THERE AND AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY AND I
11:03:48 KNOW OUR PARTNERS IN THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE
11:03:50 SECTOR.
11:03:51 I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY -- I WANT TO SHARE THREE THINGS.
11:03:54 NUMBER ONE, WE WILL BE AT THE TABLE.
11:03:56 WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THE HALO EFFECT THAT GOES BEYOND
11:03:59 THE BOUNDARIES, WHEREVER THEY LAND, FOR THE GOODNESS OF
11:04:02 EVERYBODY BEYOND THE BOUNDARY.
11:04:04 SECONDLY, WE HAD A SUMMIT HERE IN TAMPA IN THE BEGINNING
11:04:08 OF NOVEMBER, TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE POVERTY AND MAKING
11:04:12 ALL OF THOSE BOATS RISE.
11:04:14 I MET A YOUNG MAN THERE WHO LIVED IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
11:04:18 WAS A BENEFICIARY OF OUR RICH HOUSE, WHICH YOU KNOW VERY
11:04:22 WELL.
11:04:22 HE GETS IN TRANSIT EVERY DAY AND GOES UP TO THE
11:04:25 UNIVERSITY AREA AND HAS A CULINARY JOB.
11:04:27 HE'S BENEFITING FROM THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE COMMUNITY TO
11:04:30 GET THOSE KIND OF JOBS.
11:04:31 I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AS YOU
11:04:33 MENTIONED, COUNCILMAN GUDES, THAT WE FOCUS BEYOND THE
11:04:36 BOUNDARIES AND GET INTO THOSE HOUSEHOLDS AND GET INTO
11:04:39 THOSE POVERTY AREAS AND GET INTO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
11:04:43 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE THINGS THAT THE MAYOR IS
11:04:45 WORKING ON.
11:04:46 I CAN TELL YOU FROM WATCHING THIS WE'RE ALSO GOING TO
11:04:48 LEARN THINGS FROM OUR OTHER CRA AREAS THAT WE CAN BENEFIT
11:04:51 FROM.
11:04:51 SO THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXPONENTIAL BENEFIT OF WHAT
11:04:55 WE'RE DOING HERE FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE LIVING
11:04:57 AND WORKING COMMUNITY, AND THE EDUCATION FACTORS, ALL OF
11:05:01 THOSE THINGS.
11:05:01 SO WE WILL BE AT THE TABLE TO ENSURE THIS GOES ON THE
11:05:05 EXACT WAY YOU AND I SAW ON THE STREETS FOR 30 YEARS.
11:05:08 >>LUIS VIERA: NARROWLY TAILORED TO THE ISSUE OF
11:05:11 COUNCILMAN GUDES' COMMENTS ON SULPHUR SPRINGS, COUNCILMAN
11:05:15 CITRO, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ISSUE?
11:05:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ISSUE.
11:05:19 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE
11:05:21 SOMETHING TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS?
11:05:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE SOMETHING TO SPEAK ON THE MOU.
11:05:26 >>LUIS VIERA: AFTER COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:05:28 I WANT TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.
11:05:29 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:05:30 AND THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:05:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
11:05:33 THAT'S WHY WE ALL WANT TO SPEAK ON IT.
11:05:36 MARK KNOWS I'VE BEEN WITH MY COMMUNITY HAT ON AND MY WORK
11:05:41 HAT I'VE BEEN SUPPORTING HIS EFFORTS SINCE HE STARTED
11:05:43 FIVE YEARS AGO.
11:05:44 LITTLE OVER --
11:05:45 >> LAUNCHED US.
11:05:47 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT EFFORT AS A
11:05:50 COUPLE OF OTHER SPEAKERS SAID, WE HAVE A UNIVERSITY THERE
11:05:54 THAT'S ROBUST.
11:05:55 LOTS OF CORPORATE CONNECTIONS THERE.
11:05:56 LOTS OF INNOVATION THAT'S HAPPENING.
11:05:58 AND WE NEED TO CONNECT THE COMMUNITY TO IT IN BROADER
11:06:01 WAYS.
11:06:01 WE NEED TO CONNECT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT THE FIRST
11:06:03 STEP IS TO GET THE BUSINESSES RIGHT AROUND THERE TO
11:06:06 CONNECT MORE CLOSELY WITH USF AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING
11:06:09 ON THERE.
11:06:10 SOME OF THE INNOVATIONS AND IDEAS ARE BEING SPREAD ALL
11:06:12 OVER THE WORLD, AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THEM HERE AS MUCH
11:06:15 AS POSSIBLE BUT DO IT IN A WAY THAT CONNECTS OUR
11:06:18 COMPANIES.
11:06:19 AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES ALSO, BUSCH BOULEVARD AND FOWLER
11:06:24 AVENUE ARE GATEWAYS TO THE WORLD, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES
11:06:28 SAID, PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO BUSCH GARDENS AND THEY ARE
11:06:31 SEEING OUR AREA, AND THAT MIGHT BE THEIR ONLY IMPRESSION
11:06:34 OF TAMPA, IF THEY ONLY GO TO BUSCH GARDENS.
11:06:38 MANY PEOPLE ALSO ARE GOING TO USF.
11:06:40 WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN
11:06:45 URBAN PLANNING IS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO WORK AND LIVE
11:06:49 NEAR WHERE THEY WORK. FOR A LONG TIME, THE AREA AROUND
11:06:54 USF WAS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.
11:06:58 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE JOBS
11:07:00 THERE SO THAT PEOPLE LIVE AND WORK NEARBY, AND WE WON'T
11:07:02 HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE ON 275 OR THE RAIL OR WHATEVER ENDS
11:07:07 UP GOING THERE.
11:07:08 SOME PEOPLE ASKED ME, WHY HAS THIS TAKEN FIVE YEARS?
11:07:14 THE SIMPLE REASON, I'LL SAY IT IN THE SIMPLE FORM IS THAT
11:07:16 THERE WAS NO PRIORITY IN THE CITY OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
11:07:19 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON NORTH TAMPA, EAST
11:07:23 TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, AND SOUTH TAMPA.
11:07:26 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN AND NOT IGNORE
11:07:28 IT.
11:07:29 BUT I'VE SEEN OVER AND OVER IN COMMUNITIES, IF YOU ONLY
11:07:32 FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN, THE REST OF THE CITY WILL DECLINE, AS
11:07:36 MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, WE HAVE SOME OF THE
11:07:39 POOREST RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY IN THAT AREA.
11:07:41 SOME OF THEM WERE DISLOCATED FROM THE WEST BANK IN TAMPA
11:07:44 TO THAT AREA.
11:07:45 AND WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THE POVERTY ISSUES AS FORMER
11:07:49 COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE SAID.
11:07:53 WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOCUS ON THE SOFT SKILLS
11:07:56 AND SERVICES TO ADDRESS THE POVERTY ISSUES.
11:07:58 IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, THE CRISIS THAT WE'RE HAVING IN
11:08:01 TAMPA IS POVERTY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:08:04 THEY ARE BY FAR THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO
11:08:07 ADDRESS.
11:08:07 THE WAY WE DO IT IS BY CREATING JOBS INNOVATION TO BRING
11:08:10 PEOPLE UP BY HELPING ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE CREATE THEIR OWN
11:08:13 COMPANIES AND BUSINESSES TO DEVELOP WEALTH AND BY USING
11:08:16 EDUCATION.
11:08:17 ALL THOSE ARE COMPONENTS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.
11:08:19 WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS, AND I'LL ASK YOU JUST TO CONFIRM,
11:08:23 YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING A CRA, RIGHT?
11:08:26 >> NO, SIR.
11:08:26 >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE FEEDBACK
11:08:28 FROM AT LEAST TWO OF US ON THAT.
11:08:30 MY CONCERN WITH NEW CRAs IN PARTICULAR IS THAT
11:08:33 MECHANISM FOCUSES ON REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
11:08:35 THE WAY IT MAKES MONEY IS FROM AD VALOREM TAXES, AND IT
11:08:39 ENCOURAGES SUBSIDIES OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND
11:08:41 AROUND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
11:08:43 AS OUR ATTORNEY SAID IN ONE OF THE CRA MEETINGS, WE CAN'T
11:08:46 SPEND CRA MONEY ON THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED.
11:08:48 AS A WHOLE LINEUP OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID FROM UACDC TO THE
11:08:53 NEIGHBORHOODS, THOSE ARE NOT REAL ESTATE PLAYS.
11:08:56 THEY ARE SERVICES WE NEED TO SPEND.
11:08:58 AS A COMMUNITY, AS A CITY, WE NEED TO BE DEDICATED TO
11:09:00 PUTTING THE RESOURCES UP THERE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
11:09:02 THIS IS AN ENORMOUS ECONOMIC ENGINE NOW, BUT IT COULD BE
11:09:06 A HUNDRED TIMES AS MUCH IF YOU ALL ARE SUCCESSFUL THERE.
11:09:08 I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HELP WITH THAT.
11:09:10 ONE LAST QUESTION, JUST FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU TELL US
11:09:15 JUST WHAT THAT $666,666 IS GOING TO BE USED FOR?
11:09:23 >> SOME ANALYSIS WAS DONE BY STAFF TO DETERMINE IF WE
11:09:28 WERE TO START AT SQUARE ONE, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO
11:09:32 PUT TOGETHER A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT TOOK INTO
11:09:35 CONSIDERATION LAND USE ISSUES, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, JOB
11:09:39 CREATION, JOB TRAINING, OUTREACH.
11:09:42 AND THEY BROKE IT DOWN AND CAME UP WITH A NUMBER.
11:09:47 I AT MY EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING INDICATED THAT WE WOULD
11:09:50 NOT NEED ANY CLOSE TO THAT AMOUNT.
11:09:54 MY MEMBERS AGREED THAT THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN AN EQUAL
11:09:57 BASIS WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, BUT THAT WAS JUST A
11:10:03 HIGHEST, AS IT WAS EXPRESSED BY STAFF, AN ESTIMATE WE
11:10:08 HIGHEST LEVEL.
11:10:09 THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT AS WE BEGIN TO SIT DOWN TO
11:10:12 THE TABLE, AND WE WOULD INVITE COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THE
11:10:15 OTHERS TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH US, ABSOLUTELY, AND HAVE
11:10:17 THESE CONVERSATIONS, AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO
11:10:20 LIFT UP THE COMMUNITY, BUT IF WE FOUND OURSELVES MIDYEAR
11:10:25 WITH AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRED US TO GET MORE TECHNICAL
11:10:30 EXPERTISE THAN WE HAVE AROUND THE TABLE, THE EXISTING
11:10:33 STUDIES, AND MS. MONTELIONE BROUGHT UP ONE STUDY.
11:10:38 12 OTHER STUDIES DONE FOR THE AREA, SPENDING WELL OVER
11:10:41 $2 MILLION IN STUDIES ALREADY.
11:10:42 OUR JOB IS TO TAKE THE STUDIES THAT EXIST, BRING THEM
11:10:46 INTO THIS BUSINESS PLAN THAT'S BEING BUILT OUT, AND KEEP
11:10:51 OUR COSTS LOW AND BE INCREDIBLY FRUGAL.
11:10:55 ANY DECISIONS MADE WITH REGARD TO EXPENSES WILL BE MADE
11:11:01 IN A MANNER WHERE EACH OF THE THREE SITTING AT THE TABLE
11:11:04 WILL BE WEIGHING IN AND VOTING.
11:11:05 SO WE'LL SET UP A STEERING COMMITTEE WITH STEERING
11:11:09 CHAIRS.
11:11:09 THE CITY WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE WHO WILL SERVE AS A
11:11:12 CHAIR.
11:11:12 THE COUNTY WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THAT SERVES AS A
11:11:14 CHAIR.
11:11:15 OUR ORGANIZATION AS WELL.
11:11:15 AT THAT TIME, IF A DECISION IS MADE TO SPEND MONEY AND IT
11:11:19 IS MY OBJECTIVE THAT WE SPEND VERY LITTLE, THAT THE THREE
11:11:23 WOULD HAVE TO VOTE UNANIMOUSLY.
11:11:24 SO THAT WAS JUST AGAIN HIGHEST ESTIMATE.
11:11:28 WE DON'T EXPECT TO COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT.
11:11:31 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE LAST THING IN FOLLOW-UP.
11:11:33 WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, I TALKED ABOUT RAISING
11:11:36 EXPECTATIONS, SETTING HIGHER STANDARDS.
11:11:38 INSTEAD OF JUST BEING LIKE ORLANDO OR MIAMI, LET'S BE
11:11:42 BETTER THAN THE BEST CITIES IN THE WORLD.
11:11:44 I THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TEAM.
11:11:46 YOU HAVE A GREAT CONSULTANT.
11:11:47 GREAT COMPANIES AROUND THE TABLE BUT I ALSO SHOULD SAY,
11:11:50 MARK, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE MARK SHARPE HERE STILL.
11:11:53 HE'S ONE OF THE GREAT THOUGHT LEADERS OF OUR AREA.
11:11:55 BIG VISIONARY.
11:11:56 HE KNOWS SOME OF THE BEST THINKERS AND MINDS IN THE
11:11:59 WORLD.
11:11:59 I THINK I READ A LOT BUT HE READS MORE THAN ANYBODY I
11:12:01 KNOW.
11:12:02 IF WANT TO FIND OUT ABOUT INNOVATIVE IDEAS, I ALWAYS GO
11:12:04 TO ASK HIM.
11:12:05 PLEASE CONTINUE TO RAISE THE STANDARDS.
11:12:07 CONTINUE TO SET OUR VISION AND OUR EXPECTATIONS HIGH.
11:12:10 AND SET THEM HIGHER THAN YOU THINK WE CAN GO.
11:12:13 IF WE MISS IT, WE'LL STILL BE HIGHER THAN IF WE SET THEM
11:12:16 LOWER.
11:12:17 THANK YOU.
11:12:17 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
11:12:19 YOU LAUNCHED THIS WHEN WE HAD OUR VERY FIRST OUTREACH
11:12:22 MEETING IN JANUARY 2015 WHEN WE -- THE ORGANIZATION WAS
11:12:24 CREATED IN 2011.
11:12:25 IT REALLY LAUNCHED IN 2015.
11:12:27 WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL OUTREACH MEETING.
11:12:29 WE BROUGHT IN AMAZING SPEAKERS.
11:12:31 BRUCE KATZ WHO WROTE THE BOOK METRO REVOLUTION AND ALSO
11:12:34 HAS WRITTEN THE DOCUMENT FOR BROOKINGS INSTITUTE ON WHAT
11:12:38 AN INNOVATION DISTRICT IS.
11:12:39 WE'RE DELVING DEEPLY INTO THAT.
11:12:41 HE WAS OUR VERY FIRST SPEAKER.
11:12:42 OUR SECOND SPEAKER WAS RICHARD FLORIDA, WHO WROTE THE
11:12:44 BOOK "THE RISE OF THE CREATIVE CLASS."
11:12:46 BUT A SECOND BOOK, WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT PUBLISHED IN
11:12:50 2017, IS THE NEW URBAN CRISIS.
11:12:52 IT TALKS ABOUT THE SPREAD OF INEQUALITY THAT'S TAKING
11:12:54 PLACE IN THE INNOVATION DISTRICTS.
11:12:55 WE BROUGHT HIM HERE TO SPEAK.
11:12:56 HE PARTICIPATED.
11:12:57 WE TWEET REGULARLY NOW, AND HE'S GOING TO BE
11:13:00 PARTICIPATING WITH US BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
11:13:02 TO CLOSE THAT GAP.
11:13:03 SO THE ISSUES THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP ARE THE
11:13:05 ONES THAT WE'LL BE DEALING WITH DIRECTLY.
11:13:08 IF WE CAN'T MOVE THAT NEEDLE, WE FAILED.
11:13:10 WE ARE GOING TO SET THE BAR VERY HIGH.
11:13:11 I PARTICIPATE, AS YOU DO, MANY OF YOU, ON THESE
11:13:15 BENCHMARKING TRIPS WITH THE CHAMBER.
11:13:16 WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
11:13:18 I WANT PEOPLE TO BENCHMARK AGAINST US, TO SEE WHAT WE'RE
11:13:21 DOING, TO SEE HOW WE'RE LIFTING THE COMMUNITY.
11:13:24 SEE HOW THEY CAN REPLICATE THIS MODEL.
11:13:25 I FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE CHRISTIAN LEONE, WHO
11:13:28 IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT LAB, WHICH
11:13:32 WAS JUST CREATED.
11:13:34 PATEL IS THE CHAIR OF THE ENRICHMENT LAB.
11:13:37 IT'S A 501(C)(3) THAT WAS CREATED BY OUR ORGANIZATION
11:13:39 THAT NOW OPERATES INDEPENDENTLY.
11:13:45 BUT ITS PURPOSE IS TO CREATE MANY OF THE OPPORTUNITIES
11:13:48 THAT YOU HAVE IN SOUTH TAMPA BUT YOU DON'T HAVE UP IN THE
11:13:49 UNIVERSITY AREA AND MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:13:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, VERY, VERY BRIEF.
11:13:58 COMMISSIONER SHARPE, I LIVED AT 15th AND 131st BACK
11:14:04 IN THE '70s.
11:14:05 I HAVE SEEN THIS AREA CHANGE.
11:14:09 I'LL TAKE OUT MY FILTER.
11:14:10 I DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE.
11:14:13 BUT AT THE TIME, UNIVERSITY SQUARE MALL WAS SEEN AS THE
11:14:16 EMERALD CITY.
11:14:17 WHERE PEOPLE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO SPEND THEIR MONEY.
11:14:21 IT WAS GOING TO BUILD UP THE AREA.
11:14:23 SOMEWHERE IN THE 1980s, THAT DREAM KIND OF FELL
11:14:27 THROUGH.
11:14:27 FOR YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING DO SOMETHING, DO
11:14:30 SOMETHING, DO SOMETHING.
11:14:31 I WANT TO THANK YOU, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:14:35 I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
11:14:37 THE PARTNERS THAT YOU HAVE.
11:14:39 THE MAYOR, THAT FINALLY, TODAY, IS THE START OF DOING
11:14:44 SOMETHING.
11:14:45 I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING TECH AND
11:14:49 MEDICAL BUSINESSES.
11:14:50 AND WITH THAT DRAW IS ALSO GOING TO COME RETAIL AND
11:14:54 SERVICE INDUSTRY.
11:14:54 SO WITH THAT CAUSE AND EFFECT, IT SHOULDN'T BE -- IT
11:14:58 SHOULD BE A MUST.
11:15:01 COMPETITIVE HOUSING, SCHOOLS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS
11:15:06 ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
11:15:09 SO THIS IS GOING TO HAVE THE CAUSE AND EFFECT IN THIS
11:15:12 AREA, AND IT IS GOING TO OVERFLOW INTO OTHER AREAS.
11:15:15 THIS IS NOT ONLY GOING TO PROVIDE JOBS, BUT IT'S ALSO
11:15:19 GOING TO PROVIDE CAREERS.
11:15:21 AGAIN, I COMPLIMENT YOU, YOUR PARTNERS, YOUR STAFF.
11:15:27 TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF DOING SOMETHING.
11:15:29 LET'S GET THIS DONE.
11:15:30 THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
11:15:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:15:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:15:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT GOING TO REITERATE THE
11:15:37 ACCOLADES.
11:15:38 I AGREE WITH THEM.
11:15:40 MR. BENNETT, ON THE NUTS AND BOLTS SIDE OF THINGS, THE
11:15:52 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS JUST THAT.
11:15:55 IT'S BASICALLY LET'S GET STARTED.
11:15:59 WE ALL AGREE TO THESE BROAD CONCEPTS.
11:16:02 IN REGARD TO THE $666,000 COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY, WHICH
11:16:07 IS ALSO BEING MATCHED BY THE COUNTY AND BY THE
11:16:10 STAKEHOLDERS FOR A TOTAL OF $2 MILLION.
11:16:12 OUR PORTION OF THE 666,000, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT TODAY,
11:16:18 AS FAR AS I CAN SEE.
11:16:19 WE'RE MAKING A GENERALIZED COMMITMENT BUT THERE'S NO
11:16:25 BUDGET ITEM IN FRONT OF US.
11:16:28 I'M PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT WHEN YOU BRING BACK
11:16:31 THOSE BUDGET ITEMS, TYPICALLY WE'LL HAVE A SCOPE OF
11:16:38 SERVICES AND SOME KIND OF CONTRACT RELATED TO THAT FAIRLY
11:16:41 LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:16:43 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:16:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT I ANTICIPATE WILL BE OVER THE
11:16:49 NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT
11:16:52 WE'LL BE SEEING --
11:16:54 >> YEAH, I THINK THE ANTICIPATED TIME IS SIX MONTHS.
11:16:59 MAKE SURE WE BUFFER SOME TIME BEYOND THAT, IF NECESSARY.
11:17:02 >> AGAIN, IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS, IN 2015,
11:17:06 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SET ASIDE $2 MILLION TO HELP US AND
11:17:09 ASSIST US WITH PLANNING.
11:17:10 WE NEVER DREW DOWN.
11:17:13 IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRAW DOWN UPON THE MONEY IF IT
11:17:16 WAS NEEDED.
11:17:17 WE DID A PORTION OF STUDIES IN CONCERT WITH THE UACDC AND
11:17:20 THE COUNTY, BUT WE NEVER DREW DOWN THAT AMOUNT.
11:17:25 >>JOHN BENNETT: IF I COULD, A LITTLE POSTSCRIPT THERE, I
11:17:27 THINK THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR
11:17:29 FOR THE QUALITATIVE ASPECT OF THE STUDIES AS IT RELATES
11:17:34 TO THE STAKEHOLDERS AND CONSTITUENTS OF THE AREA.
11:17:36 THERE IS A CHECK OPPORTUNITY BASED ON YOUR REQUEST.
11:17:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO GOVERNANCE.
11:17:44 THERE IS A REFERENCE IN THE MOU AS TO GOVERNANCE.
11:17:48 IT JUST GENERALLY SPEAKS TO THE CITY, THE COUNTY,
11:17:51 ET CETERA.
11:17:51 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HOPEFULLY THAT COUNCIL WILL BE
11:17:58 INCLUDED IN THAT GOVERNANCE.
11:18:01 I DON'T KNOW IF WE DESIGNATE A SEAT, BUT, OBVIOUSLY,
11:18:06 CHAIRMAN VIERA WOULD BE A RIGHT CANDIDATE TO BE INCLUDED
11:18:11 IN THAT, IF HE SO DESIRED.
11:18:13 I MEAN, NOT HIM, BUT THE POSITION THAT HE HOLDS IN
11:18:17 DISTRICT 7.
11:18:18 I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF IT.
11:18:24 THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SPEAK TO IS THE SULPHUR
11:18:26 SPRINGS ISSUE.
11:18:28 I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS A LOT.
11:18:30 I WENT UP AND VISITED THE ROBINSONS, LIKE YOU DID
11:18:35 RECENTLY, JOHN.
11:18:35 BEEN SPENDING MORE AND MORE TIME UP THAT WAY AND SEEING
11:18:38 THE NEEDS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
11:18:40 I THINK WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
11:18:45 IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE A CRA.
11:18:46 WE HAVE A DESIGNATED STAFF PERSON WHO HAS BEEN SPENDING
11:18:49 THE LAST TEN YEARS THERE.
11:18:51 I AGREE WITH MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:18:53 I THINK AT A MINIMUM WE NEED A WORKSHOP AND DO SOMETHING
11:18:59 SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TOWARD SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:19:01 I THINK WE NEED A STAFF PERSON WHO JUST LIVES, BREATHES,
11:19:05 AND EATS SULPHUR SPRINGS ON ITS OWN.
11:19:09 I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EXPECT MR. SHARPE AND THIS
11:19:15 ORGANIZATION TO BE -- THAT'S A HUGE AREA ALREADY.
11:19:18 HOW MANY SQUARE MILES, MARK?
11:19:20 >> 19.
11:19:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 19 SQUARE -- I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE IT
11:19:24 OUT ON MY GOOGLE MAP.
11:19:25 BUT 19 SQUARE MILES.
11:19:27 IT IS A MASSIVE AREA ALREADY.
11:19:29 I THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH ON THEIR PLATE.
11:19:32 FRANKLY, I'M PLEASED YOU EXPANDED FARTHER SOUTH TO
11:19:35 INCLUDE DOWN TO BUSCH BOULEVARD.
11:19:36 SO THAT'S GOOD.
11:19:37 BUT I DON'T WANT MR. GUDES TO THINK THAT WE'RE IGNORING
11:19:44 SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:19:45 I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT SULPHUR SPRINGS
11:19:48 SEPARATELY AND LET'S START WORKING TO SOLVE THOSE SULFUR
11:19:52 SPRING ISSUES.
11:19:54 MAYOR IORIO STARTED THAT WITH A LOT OF INITIATIVES.
11:19:56 I'M SURE MAYOR BUCKHORN CONTINUED THAT WHEN I WASN'T
11:19:59 HERE, BUT WE NEED TO JUST PICK UP THE BALL AND RUN WITH
11:20:03 THAT AS A SEPARATE ENTITY, IN MY OPINION, WHETHER OR NOT
11:20:07 IT'S ANOTHER CRA, JUST FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS, WHICH
11:20:10 MR. CARLSON PROBABLY WOULDN'T LIKE, OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF
11:20:13 VEHICLE SIMILAR TO A CRA.
11:20:16 ANYWAY, OVERALL, I'M REAL OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS GROUP.
11:20:24 I THINK IT'S A GREAT GROUP THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
11:20:28 I'LL SUPPORT TODAY'S MOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
11:20:32 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
11:20:34 IT'S A GREAT CATALYST TO WHAT YOUR COMMENTS WERE.
11:20:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:20:38 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
11:20:42 I'VE KNOWN YOU SINCE THE DAYS OF THE BUDDY BREW, FRIDAY
11:20:44 MORNING COFFEES.
11:20:45 MY FRIENDS HAVE KNOWN YOU SINCE THE POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS
11:20:47 OF THE '90s.
11:20:49 WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR YOU AS WELL AS
11:20:52 EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S FORMED THIS AND MOVING FORWARD.
11:20:56 I REMEMBER DR. JUDY GENSHAFT IN 2011 SAT AT A CANDIDATE
11:21:00 FORUM AT USF PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT FOWLER AVENUE.
11:21:03 I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT WITH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO WALKED OUT
11:21:06 OF THE STEAK 'N SHAKE ON FOWLER, HE SAID LOOK AT THIS
11:21:09 ROAD, IT LOOKED EXACTLY AS IT DID WHEN I WAS AT USF IN
11:21:12 1993.
11:21:15 AS IT SAT DORMANT FOR DECADES NOW, FINALLY SOMETHING IS
11:21:19 HAPPENING.
11:21:20 REGARDS TO SULPHUR SPRINGS, YOU HAVE THE HISTORY THERE.
11:21:23 IT'S A VERY INTERESTING AND UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:21:26 SOME CALL IT A TRANSIENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:21:27 IT WAS A VACATION SPOT HISTORICALLY, ALMOST A HUNDRED
11:21:30 YEARS AGO AND WHATNOT.
11:21:31 NOW YOU HAVE THAT DENSE RESIDENTIAL.
11:21:34 YOU HAVE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
11:21:37 AS YOU BUILD THIS INNOVATION DISTRICT, NEW JOBS COME IN,
11:21:41 BUT WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO FILL THOSE
11:21:44 JOBS?
11:21:44 YOU HAVE SULPHUR SPRINGS THAT BORDERS RIGHT THERE.
11:21:48 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE MINIMUM-WAGE JOBS, THEY ARE
11:21:50 GOING TO BE HIGHER-PAYING JOBS WHERE THEY CAN SUSTAIN
11:21:53 THEMSELVES AND IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
11:21:57 AS YOU MEET THE BORDER AT BUSCH BOULEVARD WHERE MY
11:22:01 DISTRICT ENDS AND SULPHUR SPRINGS BEGINS, YOU HAVE THE
11:22:04 TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT.
11:22:05 THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE HAVE SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY WILL
11:22:07 BE EMPLOYED AND BE PAID A DECENT WAGE, BEYOND JUST A
11:22:13 SERVICE INDUSTRY, BEYOND JUST WORKING AT A GAS STATION OR
11:22:16 A RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ASPIRE
11:22:18 MORE TO -- WHERE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, MOVE ON UP IN THE
11:22:20 WORLD AND WE CAN REBUILD THAT MIDDLE CLASS THAT THAT
11:22:23 NEIGHBORHOOD SO DESPERATELY NEEDS.
11:22:25 I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:22:25 I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO AND EVERYONE.
11:22:27 AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN GUDES' COMMENTS.
11:22:30 I WOULD SUPPORT DEFINITELY A WORKSHOP.
11:22:31 I KNOW THE PAST ADMINISTRATION WITH THE NEHEMIAH PROJECT
11:22:34 AND DEMOLISHING SOME OLDER HOMES AND BUILDING NEW HOMES
11:22:38 IN THE AREA, IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA HAS STARTED THE
11:22:41 CONVERSATION.
11:22:41 BEFORE THAT, WITH MAYOR IORIO, BUT NOW WITH THE
11:22:44 OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE, AND WITH THE HISTORIC EVENT
11:22:47 TAKING PLACE, AND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, THIS IS GOING
11:22:50 TO BE THE CATALYST THAT REALLY LIFTS UP THAT ENTIRE AREA.
11:22:54 THANK YOU.
11:22:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:22:56 ANYONE ELSE?
11:22:57 OKAY.
11:22:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THAT ITEM,
11:23:01 SIR?
11:23:01 IT'S YOUR COMMITTEE.
11:23:04 >>BILL CARLSON: READ THE WHOLE THING?
11:23:06 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, JUST MOVE 41.
11:23:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 41, FILE
11:23:13 NUMBER B 2019-43.
11:23:16 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:23:18 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:23:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:20 ANY OPPOSED?
11:23:22 >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE SUBSTITUTE
11:23:24 RESOLUTION.
11:23:24 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YES.
11:23:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, MOVING THE SUBSTITUTE.
11:23:29 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:23:29 I VOTED NO AS A JOKE.
11:23:33 OF COURSE, I'M VOTING YES.
11:23:34 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.
11:23:36 BY THE WAY, SINCE WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT SULPHUR
11:23:38 SPRINGS, I WANTED TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT TOMORROW I'M
11:23:42 GOING TO BE THERE AT NOON FOR THE DREAM BUILDERS.
11:23:45 8145 NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:23:47 PASTOR HARRISON, WHO IS A CONSTITUENT, WILL BE GIVING
11:23:50 AWAY CHRISTMAS TOYS TO ABOUT 800 TOYS FROM SULPHUR
11:23:53 SPRINGS ELEMENTARY FROM 12 TO 3.
11:23:55 IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME, IF YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO COME,
11:23:58 PASTOR HARRISON IS A GREAT GUY AND A FINE MINISTER.
11:24:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO SAY I KNOW YOU
11:24:07 HAVE A LOT OF HARD WORK IN THIS THING.
11:24:09 I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:24:10 AGAIN, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I'M SUPPORTING THE PROJECT,
11:24:12 BUT I JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE MY CONSTITUENTS KNOW THAT
11:24:16 I'M WATCHING AND BEING BIG BROTHER FOR THEM AS WELL.
11:24:18 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I THINK
11:24:22 YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING ON HERE.
11:24:24 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEHOW WE GET SOME
11:24:27 TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THOSE FOLKS.
11:24:32 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN, ANYBODY WHO KNOWS YOU OVER THE
11:24:35 LAST SEVEN MONTHS KNOWS THAT YOU ARE THE HARDEST WORKING
11:24:39 PERSON ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:24:40 YOU HIT HARD FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THAT'S WHY WE
11:24:44 LOVE YOU.
11:24:44 SO THANK YOU, SIR.
11:24:47 >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU MIND IF WE GO AHEAD AND DO THE
11:24:49 SULPHUR SPRINGS SINCE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DISCUSSION
11:24:52 ABOUT IT.
11:24:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION?
11:24:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, GO AHEAD AND HAVE A WORKSHOP
11:24:59 WITH THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
11:25:02 CITY STAFF CAN FIND A LOCATION FOR US.
11:25:07 I WOULD SAY MAYBE -- WHAT WORKSHOP DAY?
11:25:11 FEBRUARY?
11:25:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A WORKSHOP DAY AND
11:25:19 SCHEDULE OFF-SITE?
11:25:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OFF-SITE.
11:25:21 WE HAVE TO GO THERE.
11:25:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS OPPOSED TO PICKING ANOTHER DAY AND
11:25:24 HAVING A SPECIAL -- YOU COULD SET A WORKSHOP AT ANY OTHER
11:25:28 DAY IF YOU WISH.
11:25:29 BUT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ONE SET ASIDE A WORKSHOP DAY ON
11:25:33 YOUR CALENDAR TO DO THAT --
11:25:35 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU ASKING FOR LIKE OFF-SITE ON A
11:25:37 THURSDAY?
11:25:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
11:25:38 I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW IF ALL COUNCIL GO AS
11:25:41 OFF-SITE SPECIAL MEETING THERE OR YOU WANT TO HAVE A --
11:25:45 >>LUIS VIERA: HAVING A TOWN HALL FOR US AND THEN SECOND
11:25:48 -- I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN
11:25:52 YOUR MOUTH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP, RIGHT?
11:25:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING IT ON-SITE IF WE
11:25:58 CAN SCHEDULE IT.
11:25:59 ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO GO OUT TO THE PEOPLE OF THE
11:26:03 COMMUNITY IS A GREAT IDEA.
11:26:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
11:26:14 -- AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
11:26:23 >>LUIS VIERA: AND WE COULD, AND, AGAIN, THE MAKER OF THE
11:26:25 MOTION, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
11:26:28 TRADITIONAL WORKSHOP AND THEN HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING
11:26:30 OUT THERE.
11:26:31 WE COULD HAVE BOTH.
11:26:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY QUESTION, WELL --
11:26:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DISCUSSION.
11:26:38 WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
11:26:40 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT?
11:26:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL SAY THAT --
11:26:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.
11:26:48 DID WE HAVE A VOTE ON 41?
11:26:50 >> YES.
11:26:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANTED TO LET MR. SHARPE AND
11:26:53 HIS PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE.
11:26:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS
11:26:58 UP BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT
11:27:01 AN OFF-SITE MEETING, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE IT
11:27:04 TELEVISED, COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE IT RECORDED AND THE
11:27:06 LIKE, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS INVOLVED.
11:27:09 >>LUIS VIERA: SPEAKING OF ALL THE MOVING PARTS, HOW ABOUT
11:27:11 WE HOLD THAT UNTIL THE END SO WE CAN COMPARTMENTALIZE
11:27:16 EVERYTHING.
11:27:16 WE HAVE OTHER STAFF REPORTS.
11:27:17 WE WILL GET TO THAT.
11:27:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:20 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, WE MOVE TO OUR STAFF REPORTS.
11:27:23 LET'S START WITH 64.
11:27:24 I SEE SOME FOLKS HERE FROM POLICE.
11:27:25 I BELIEVE YOU ALL ARE HERE FOR 64.
11:27:29 >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:27:30 >> SECOND.
11:27:35 >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:27:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO
11:27:39 OPEN THE HEARING FOR 10:30 A.M., 58 THROUGH 61.
11:27:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:27:45 IS THERE A SECOND?
11:27:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID.
11:27:47 >>LUIS VIERA:
11:27:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:27:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:27:50 ALL RIGHTY.
11:27:51 ITEM NUMBER 64, TAKE IT AWAY.
11:27:55 >>KELLY AUSTIN: GOOD MORNING.
11:27:56 KELLY AUSTIN, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
11:27:58 I AM ACCOMPANIED BY MEMBERS OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND
11:28:01 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT ITEM 64
11:28:04 THIS MORNING.
11:28:05 THE MEMO THAT WE SENT OVER BASICALLY JUST TO LEVEL SET
11:28:10 OUTLINED THE CURRENT TRAINING THAT GOES ON IN THE CITY
11:28:15 AND TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
11:28:18 SECURING AN ONLINE LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR 2020.
11:28:23 WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT IMPLEMENTED, WILL AFFORD US A
11:28:26 GREATER OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE ONLINE TRAINING COURSES.
11:28:31 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE WORKING WITH LEGAL ON
11:28:34 ESTABLISHING WHAT INTERVALS WE WANT TO USE FOR THE
11:28:38 TRAINING, THE METHOD OF DELIVERY, WHO THE AUDIENCE IS AND
11:28:42 WE HOPE TO BRING THAT FORWARD IN A WORKSHOP FORMAT, IF
11:28:46 THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THE COUNCIL.
11:28:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:28:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN THE HOUSE AND
11:28:55 UNDERSTAND HOW ONLINE WORKS, THAT MAY BE GOOD FOR MAYBE
11:29:01 SOME CITY EMPLOYEES.
11:29:04 I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR POLICE.
11:29:07 I THINK THAT HAS TO BE A FACE-TO-FACE TYPE TRAINING.
11:29:18 -- IN A POLICE CAR.
11:29:19 SOMETIMES YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE SERIES BUT NOT REALLY
11:29:23 UNDERSTAND THE SERIES.
11:29:24 THAT MAY BE GOOD FOR A WORKING STAFF WHO IS NOT
11:29:26 DISTRACTED, WHO ALL OF A SUDDEN A CALL GOES OUT, YOU'VE
11:29:30 GOT TO STOP, GO BACK.
11:29:32 I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF POLICE DOING THIS TYPE OF
11:29:36 TRAINING ON AN MDT.
11:29:39 I THINK THAT HAS TO BE A WORKSHOP.
11:29:40 I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
11:29:41 GENTLEMEN, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, WE HAD MR. JAMES TOKLEY.
11:29:45 I THINK YOU ALL KNOW WHO HE IS.
11:29:46 MR. TOKLEY WAS HIRED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UNDER THEN
11:29:51 MAYOR SANDY FREEDMAN TO GIVE DIVERSITY TRAINING TO POLICE
11:29:56 OFFICERS.
11:29:56 HE WAS RUN OFF.
11:29:58 THEY DID NOT LIKE THE TRAINING BECAUSE HE WAS BLUNT WITH
11:30:00 THE TRAINING, WHICH WAS NEEDED.
11:30:03 SEE, WHEN YOU LIVE IN AVILA, YOU NEVER REALLY WORKED WITH
11:30:09 MINORITY PEOPLE OF COLOR, BLACK AND BROWN OR DIFFERENT
11:30:13 DESCENTS OF CULTURES, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW AND
11:30:18 UNDERSTAND CULTURE.
11:30:20 AS A BLACK MAN, MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME HOW I SHOULD
11:30:24 DRESS AND TALK WHEN I GO AROUND CAUCASIAN PEOPLE.
11:30:27 I KNOW THIS TO BE FACT AND TRUE BECAUSE AS A POLICE
11:30:30 OFFICER, WHEN YOUNG OFFICERS COME FROM DIFFERENT AREAS,
11:30:33 WE WOULDN'T GO TO DIFFERENT AREAS, DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS
11:30:35 TO EAT.
11:30:36 WE WOULD EAT RIGHT THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY SO THEY COULD
11:30:39 UNDERSTAND THAT COMMUNITY AND NOT GO TO FOWLER AVENUE TO
11:30:42 TAKE 10-10, WHICH MEANS LUNCH AT APPLEBEE'S OR SOME OF
11:30:46 THE OTHER RESTAURANTS.
11:30:47 WE WOULD EAT RIGHT AT THE HOME BASE SO THEY CAN
11:30:50 UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE OF COLLARD GREENS.
11:30:53 UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE OF MR. JOHN.
11:30:55 MR. JOHN COULD BE YOUR VERY, VERY BEST ADVOCATE WHEN
11:30:58 SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
11:30:59 FOR ME, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT TRAINING WITH POLICE,
11:31:04 AGAIN, I'M A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN THERE, SO I UNDERSTAND
11:31:07 THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND CULTURE.
11:31:09 SO BEING ON MDT, TRYING TO GET THAT KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T
11:31:13 REALLY AGREE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY.
11:31:15 I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AN ACTUAL WORKSHOP WITH OFFICERS
11:31:18 UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS MEANS, WHAT THAT MEANS.
11:31:21 WHY DO PEOPLE SAY THIS?
11:31:22 WHY DO THEY SAY THAT?
11:31:24 I THINK CULTURE IS VERY KEY TO OUR CITY.
11:31:26 YOU KNOW, I JUST LEARNED YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS DEALING
11:31:29 WITH THE FOLKS FROM THE METRO FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO DO
11:31:31 THE NEW CLINIC AT THE GERMAN AMERICAN HERITAGE PLACE ON
11:31:38 NEBRASKA, THE SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER BECAUSE OF THE
11:31:42 CULTURAL DIFFERENCES OF PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING ABOUT
11:31:44 TRANSGENDER, BECAUSE -- PEOPLE MAY NOT GO TO THE PLACE.
11:31:50 TALKING ABOUT DEALING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE 13 YEARS OF AGE,
11:31:53 RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT DON'T APPLY BECAUSE OF THE
11:31:55 DISEASE WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
11:31:56 WELL, WE NEED TO KNOW THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
11:32:00 IT WAS A VERY ENLIGHTENING CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THEM
11:32:03 FOR ALMOST 30 MINUTES.
11:32:04 MY THING IS WITH POLICE OFFICERS, AND I JUST KNOW THE
11:32:08 CULTURE.
11:32:09 SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO BE IN FRONT OF IT AND FEEDING IT
11:32:11 TO BELIEVE IT.
11:32:12 >>KELLY AUSTIN: LET ME LEVEL SET.
11:32:13 I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THE IMPRESSION, THAT FOR US THE
11:32:16 ADDITION OF AN ONLINE TRAINING SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE
11:32:18 SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
11:32:21 IT'S NOT MEANT TO SUBSTITUTE OR TAKE THE PLACE OF THE
11:32:26 FACE-TO-FACE TRAININGS THAT WE CURRENTLY ENDEAVOR, YOU
11:32:28 KNOW, TO DELIVER.
11:32:29 I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENTS AS TO
11:32:32 THE SPECIFICS OF THEIR TRAININGS THAT THEY DO FACE TO
11:32:34 FACE IN SERVICE OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
11:32:37 I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
11:32:38 THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR US, BECAUSE WE WILL BE
11:32:41 ALLOWED TO DELIVER MORE TRAININGS TO OUR EMPLOYEES ON A
11:32:46 MORE REGULAR BASIS.
11:32:48 AND TO YOUR POINT, THERE ARE SOME TRAININGS THAT WE
11:32:50 ABSOLUTELY WOULD WANT TO DELIVER FACE TO FACE.
11:32:53 THERE ARE SOME TRAININGS OR REINFORCEMENTS OR REFRESHERS
11:32:56 THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF WE COULD DO IT THROUGH AN
11:32:59 ONLINE MECHANISM WHERE EMPLOYEES COULD DO IT AND MANAGERS
11:33:02 COULD SET IT UP SO THAT IT COULD BE DONE AT A TIME
11:33:05 CONDUCIVE TO THEIR WORK SHIFTS.
11:33:08 IN NO WAY WAS I TRYING TO INFER THAT THAT WOULD
11:33:11 SUBSTITUTE OR TAKE THE PLACE OF FACE-TO-FACE TRAINING.
11:33:14 I AGREE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:33:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT.
11:33:17 I BELIEVE ME BEING THE TYPE PERSON BEING IN THE HOUSE, I
11:33:21 THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS BETTER FOR OFFICERS TO
11:33:25 BELIEVE AND UNDERSTAND CULTURE, SENSITIVITY.
11:33:31 SOMETIMES I TALK LOUD.
11:33:32 SOMETIMES I HAVE TO ADJUST MYSELF.
11:33:35 NOT THAT I'M BEING ADVERSARIAL OR ANGRY.
11:33:38 IT JUST COMES OUT SOMETIMES.
11:33:41 SO I THINK HAVING A DEEP SENSITIVITY TRAINING FOR OFFICER
11:33:46 DIVERSITY IS KEY.
11:33:47 I THINK THAT IT FUSES BETTER WITH COMMUNITIES, ALL
11:33:51 COMMUNITIES.
11:33:51 AGAIN, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW HISPANIC PEOPLE TALK WITH
11:33:54 THEIR HANDS.
11:33:56 THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY TALK.
11:33:58 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO, THAT
11:34:01 ESPECIALLY WITH POLICE -- FIRE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
11:34:05 BUT ESPECIALLY WITH POLICE, IT HAS TO BE A WORKSHOP,
11:34:08 FACE-TO-FACE TRAINING WITH SOMEBODY GIVING THEM THE RAW,
11:34:11 RAW DEAL ON HOW IT REALLY IS VERSUS TRYING TO SUGAR COAT
11:34:14 TO MAKE NICE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THE N WORD OR
11:34:17 DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT.
11:34:18 YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WORD MEANS OR WHAT A
11:34:20 CERTAIN WORD IN HISPANIC MEANS.
11:34:22 THEY NEED A PERSON, NOT JUST SOMEONE -- YOU NEED A REAL
11:34:27 PERSON WHO REALLY KNOWS ABOUT DIVERSITY, SENSITIVITY AND
11:34:30 CAN REALLY GIVE IT TO THE OFFICER.
11:34:32 >>KELLY AUSTIN: UNDERSTOOD.
11:34:33 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN
11:34:35 MANISCALCO.
11:34:36 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO TAKE A SECOND.
11:34:38 COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED JAMES TOKLEY.
11:34:40 BACK IN THE '80s -- DATES ME A LITTLE BIT -- BACK IN
11:34:43 THE '80s, HE WAS ONE OF MY PROFESSORS AT UNIVERSITY OF
11:34:48 TAMPA AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE PROFESSORS.
11:34:50 BESIDES A GOOD POET HE WAS AN EXCELLENT TRAINER.
11:34:54 THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM HE WAS NOT DOING AS WELL AS
11:34:56 BEFORE.
11:34:57 I BROUGHT HIM INTO MY COMPANY TO DO DIVERSITY TRAINING
11:35:02 WITH SOME OF OUR CLIENTS OVER THE YEARS.
11:35:05 ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS HE TAUGHT ME THAT I
11:35:07 REMEMBERED, WE WERE ALWAYS TAUGHT TREAT OTHERS THE WAY
11:35:10 YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.
11:35:11 HE SAID TREAT OTHER PEOPLE THE WAY THEY WANT TO BE
11:35:13 TREATED.
11:35:14 AND OTHER GREAT WORDS OF WISDOM LIKE THAT.
11:35:16 BUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE
11:35:21 CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
11:35:23 FOUR OF US WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
11:35:26 MR. GUDES, CITRO, AND I, AND MS. ZELMAN, AND REALLY WHAT
11:35:32 THIS IS, IT'S JUST TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SPECIFICALLY, NOT
11:35:35 ABOUT ALL THE TRAINING THAT THESE DEPARTMENTS DO, BUT
11:35:37 JUST SPECIFICALLY HOW TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR COMMITMENT
11:35:42 TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:35:43 WE HAD VERY LITTLE, BECAUSE THE CITY DIDN'T ADVERTISE OUR
11:35:46 MEETINGS VERY MUCH, WE HAD VERY FEW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
11:35:49 SHOW UP FOR OUR FORUMS, BUT ON THAT NIGHT, WE HAD ABOUT
11:35:53 90 PEOPLE SHOW UP.
11:35:55 AND THEY SPECIFICALLY, A COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN THE
11:35:58 AUDIENCE TODAY, BUT THEY SPECIFICALLY ASKED US FOR
11:36:01 IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING AND OTHER KINDS OF TRAINING.
11:36:04 BY THE WAY, SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT PROTECTIONS
11:36:08 OF PEOPLE WITH GENDER IDENTITY AND OTHER CATEGORIES, AND
11:36:13 WE ADDED THAT, TOO, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK.
11:36:16 IN TERMS OF THE TRAINING, WE SAID, LISTENING TO COMMUNITY
11:36:21 FEEDBACK, WE SAID THERE SHOULD BE TWO TYPES OF TRAINING.
11:36:24 WE WERE SPECIFIC ABOUT IT AND WE SAID THAT WOULD HAPPEN
11:36:26 ONCE A YEAR AND IT WOULD BE CHOSEN BY CITY COUNCIL.
11:36:29 WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE'RE JUST MEETING THE
11:36:31 CRITERIA THAT THE COMMUNITY SET.
11:36:33 MAYBE MS. ZELMAN CAN TELL US LEGALLY, CAN YOU TELL US
11:36:37 WHAT EXACTLY -- WE PROPOSED IT, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED
11:36:41 IT, AND THEN THE PUBLIC APPROVED ALL OF IT, ALL
11:36:47 AMENDMENTS, ALL 18.
11:36:49 CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE PUBLIC APPROVED AND MAYBE HR CAN
11:36:51 TELL US HOW WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT AND STAY
11:36:53 TRUE TO THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED?
11:36:57 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES, ANDREA ZELMAN.
11:36:59 AND AS YOU'LL RECALL, WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH THE CHARTER
11:37:01 AMENDMENT WAS WE ADDED THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE:
11:37:04 SECTION 10.03 READS: DISCRIMINATION PROHIBITED, NEITHER
11:37:09 THE CITY NOR ANY OF ITS OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES SHALL
11:37:12 ENGAGE IN ANY PRACTICE OR ENTER INTO ANY CONTRACT THAT
11:37:15 WILL RESULT IN DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ANY PERSON OR GROUP
11:37:17 OF PERSONS BECAUSE OF RACE, SEX, RELIGION OR NATIONAL
11:37:21 ORIGIN, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, COLOR, PREGNANCY, AGE,
11:37:26 MARITAL STATUS, FAMILIAL STATUS, DISABILITY, GENDER
11:37:30 IDENTIFICATION, GENETIC INFORMATION, ETHNICITY OR ANY
11:37:32 OTHER BASIS AS PROHIBITED BY LAW OR ORDINANCES.
11:37:35 THE PERTINENT PART IS THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, WHICH SAYS
11:37:40 THE CITY SHALL IMPLEMENT A COMPREHENSIVE HARASSMENT,
11:37:44 ANTIDISCRIMINATION, IMPLICIT BIAS AND CULTURAL COMPETENCY
11:37:49 TRAINING FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES AT AN INTERVAL AND MANNER
11:37:51 AS ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE.
11:37:53 SO IN OTHER WORDS, AS MS. AUSTIN EXPLAINED, SHE PROVIDED
11:37:56 YOU WITH A REPORT OF ALL THE TRAINING THAT IS CURRENTLY
11:37:59 BEING PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND THAT IS INTENDED TO BE
11:38:05 PROVIDED BY THE CITY.
11:38:05 WHAT SHE REFERRED TO IS NOW MY DEPARTMENT IS WORKING WITH
11:38:09 HER AND THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO
11:38:12 COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT BASICALLY CODIFIES THAT,
11:38:17 YES, THIS TRAINING WILL BE PROVIDED AT THESE INTERVALS
11:38:19 AND IN THESE MANNERS.
11:38:20 WHAT WE PROPOSE IS MAYBE PICK ONE OF YOUR UPCOMING
11:38:26 WORKSHOP DATES IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND WE'LL BRING YOU
11:38:28 A DRAFT ORDINANCE AT THAT TIME.
11:38:30 IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL INPUT, THAT WOULD BE AN
11:38:33 OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO AND THEN WE CAN GET IT APPROVED
11:38:35 PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THAT.
11:38:38 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OTHER THING JUST TO ADD, YOU REMEMBER
11:38:40 THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ALSO WAS THAT SPECIFICALLY
11:38:43 THAT THAT KIND OF TRAINING WOULD APPLY TO THE POLICE
11:38:45 DEPARTMENT.
11:38:46 AND WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PBA WHO SAID PLEASE
11:38:49 DON'T SINGLE US OUT.
11:38:51 WE SAID -- I DIDN'T MAKE THE MOTION -- BUT WE SAID IS IT
11:38:53 OKAY IF WE APPLY IT TO EVERYBODY?
11:38:56 THEY SAID GREAT.
11:38:57 IF YOU ALL -- I'M OKAY DEFERRING THIS UNLESS YOU ALL WANT
11:39:03 TO SET UP A WORKSHOP.
11:39:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH --
11:39:07 >>BILL CARLSON: NO ANSWER RIGHT NOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
11:39:09 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I THINK A WORKSHOP WOULD BE THE
11:39:11 BEST WAY TO DO IT.
11:39:12 I THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE
11:39:15 CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE AND PUSHING IT FORWARD.
11:39:17 ALSO A SHOUT-OUT TO A GUY THAT I KNOW A LOT OF YOU LOVE.
11:39:20 MICHAELS STEVENS.
11:39:22 HE WAS MY APPOINTEE.
11:39:26 HE'S A REALLY VALID CONSTITUENT, COLLEAGUE AND GREAT
11:39:29 FRIEND.
11:39:29 I LIKE MICHAEL A LOT.
11:39:32 I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY.
11:39:37 >>BILL CARLSON: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
11:39:39 SCHEDULE THIS DISCUSSION ON A SPECIFIC ORDINANCE TO
11:39:45 IMPLEMENT THE SPIRIT OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENT AND THE
11:39:51 PUBLIC FEEDBACK -- WHAT DATE DO YOU THINK WOULD BE GOOD?
11:39:57 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I DON'T KNOW HOW FULL YOUR FEBRUARY
11:39:59 WORKSHOP IS, MAYBE MARCH.
11:40:01 WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE WITH US, AND THEN YOU CAN,
11:40:04 LIKE I SAID, GIVE US INPUT AND WE CAN REFINE IT, AND THEN
11:40:08 SHORTLY THEREAFTER GET IT ADOPTED.
11:40:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH THE ORDINANCE ON THE WORKSHOP DATE,
11:40:13 WILL WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THE TYPE
11:40:17 OF TRAINING?
11:40:20 >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN REQUEST THAT FOR THE WORKSHOP.
11:40:23 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AGAIN, WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS IS THE
11:40:25 INTERVAL AND MANNER SHOULD BE SPELLED OUT IN THE
11:40:28 ORDINANCE.
11:40:29 I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING TO IS THE MANNER.
11:40:33 >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW THAT THE CITY DOES A LOT OF
11:40:35 TRAINING, POLICE ESPECIALLY DO A LOT OF TRAINING.
11:40:38 JUST TO STICK TO THE SPIRIT OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENT AND
11:40:43 THE FEEDBACK WE GOT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD NOT TO DO A
11:40:47 WHOLE REVIEW OF ALL THE TRAINING BUT SPECIFICALLY, HERE'S
11:40:51 WHAT WE'RE DOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
11:40:52 DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE WORKSHOP?
11:40:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDARS IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:41:00 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, FEBRUARY HAS --
11:41:05 >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU WANT TO DO MARCH?
11:41:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YEAH, MARCH, PRESENTLY HAS ONE, TWO,
11:41:11 THREE, FOUR ITEMS.
11:41:13 ONE OF THEM IS TO DISCUSS A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION
11:41:15 REGARDING TRANSPORTATION, FLOODING AND EVACUATION OF
11:41:17 SOUTH GANDY.
11:41:18 THAT'S AT 9:30.
11:41:20 YOU HAVE THREE ITEMS SET FOR 9 A.M. AND TWO ITEMS SET FOR
11:41:23 9:30.
11:41:23 TOTAL OF FIVE IN ADDITION TO COMMENDATION OF POLICE
11:41:25 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
11:41:26 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:41:28 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:41:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO INCLUDE AS A FRIENDLY
11:41:33 AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE ALWAYS
11:41:36 CONCERNED ABOUT FISCAL IMPACT.
11:41:37 WHEN WE TAKE OFFICERS OFF THE STREET FOR 40 HOURS FOR
11:41:45 ANYTHING, IT HAS A FISCAL IMPACT.
11:41:48 I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T.
11:41:50 IF THE CHARTER SAYS IT THE CHARTER SAYS IT.
11:41:53 I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID IN REGARD TO THIS
11:41:59 SHOULD BE IN PERSON.
11:42:01 BUT I THINK HR NEEDS TO ANALYZE HOW MUCH OF IT NEEDS TO
11:42:04 BE IN PERSON.
11:42:05 PERHAPS IT'S A SPLIT.
11:42:06 MAYBE 20 HOURS IN PERSON AND 20 HOURS ON THE COMPUTER,
11:42:10 WHICH MIGHT NOT BE EXPENSIVE TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF
11:42:17 PULLING PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.
11:42:18 ANYWAY, I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE TO LOOK -- WHEN
11:42:27 STAFF COMES BACK, TO INCLUDE THIS SORT OF FISCAL ANALYSIS
11:42:32 AND TIME ANALYSIS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN
11:42:35 OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:42:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE THE MAKERS AMENABLE TO THAT?
11:42:42 >> YES, I AM.
11:42:42 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:42:44 ANYONE ELSE TO COMMENT ON THE MOTION?
11:42:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARCH 26 AT 10 A.M.?
11:42:52 MARCH 26, 2020.
11:42:57 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:42:59 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:43:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:43:02 ANY OPPOSED?
11:43:02 THANK YOU.
11:43:06 >> HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
11:43:07 THANK YOU.
11:43:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:43:09 YOU, TOO.
11:43:09 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 62.
11:43:12 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT'S YOURS.
11:43:26 >>BILL CARLSON: DID SOMEBODY COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT?
11:43:29 YEAH, THIS WAS JUST THE TREE SOMETHING FOLKS AND THE TREE
11:43:34 ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE
11:43:42 THAT THE TREE FUND WAS SWEPT UNDER THE LAST
11:43:45 ADMINISTRATION TO BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
11:43:46 THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TREE FUND IS USED
11:43:49 FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSES AND SEE HOW THE DECISIONS ARE
11:43:55 MADE ON THAT.
11:43:56 >>PAUL DIAL: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:43:59 PAUL DIAL, PARKS AND RECREATION.
11:44:00 THE MOTION WAS ASKED FOR PARKS AND RECREATION TO APPEAR
11:44:03 AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
11:44:04 WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE TREE TRUST FUND AUDIT AND PROVIDE
11:44:07 INFORMATION ON HOW THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED.
11:44:09 HAPPY TO REPORT THAT I BELIEVE THIS WAS PROVIDED TO
11:44:12 COUNCIL.
11:44:13 WE HAD AN AUDIT THAT WAS COMPLETED BY THE CITY ON
11:44:16 SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2019, AND IN ITS CONCLUSION IT STATED
11:44:21 THAT THE TREE TRUST FUND EXPENDITURES ARE IN COMPLIANCE
11:44:23 WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE, 16-86.
11:44:29 AND WITH THAT PROCESS, TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED OF HOW
11:44:32 WE'RE SPENDING THE DOLLARS AT THIS TIME, THE PARKS AND
11:44:35 RECREATION DEPARTMENT ADMINISTERS THE TREMENDOUS TAMPA
11:44:40 FREE TREE PROGRAM.
11:44:42 CURRENTLY, IN THE BUDGET, WE HAVE $87,500 IN THE BUDGET
11:44:46 FOR THAT PROGRAM.
11:44:48 WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE ALLOWED TO REQUEST TWO TREES TO PUT
11:44:51 ON RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THEIR RESIDENCE.
11:44:54 WITH THAT, THIS CURRENT YEAR, WE HAVE IN FY '19 WE
11:45:01 PLANTED 393 TREES IN THE PROGRAM AT A COST OF JUST NEARLY
11:45:07 $90,000.
11:45:09 AND IN ADDITION TO THAT PROGRAM, IT'S KIND OF TWOFOLD.
11:45:13 ONE IS THE FREE TREE PROGRAM.
11:45:15 SECONDLY, WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS, WHERE I'LL SAY SPECIAL
11:45:19 PROJECTS, WHERE TREE TRUST FUND DOLLARS ARE REQUESTED
11:45:22 FROM THE CITY, TO PROVIDE FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PARKS
11:45:26 AND RECREATION.
11:45:27 IN FY '19, WE HAD THREE PROJECTS THAT ONE WAS AT 20th
11:45:32 STREET.
11:45:33 SOME CRAPE MYRTLE THAT WERE INSTALLED THERE OR PLANTED
11:45:35 THERE.
11:45:36 ON KENNEDY, WE HAD 36 CRAPE MYRTLE THAT WERE INSTALLED
11:45:41 THERE.
11:45:41 DAVIS ISLANDS, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF A PROJECT WHERE 25
11:45:48 INSTALLED IN FY '19.
11:45:50 WE ANTICIPATE ANOTHER 25 COMING IN FY '20.
11:45:55 WITH THAT, THE REASON THAT'S SPLIT IN HALF IS WE ALSO AT
11:45:57 DAVIS ISLANDS DO WE HAVE DEAL WITH COORDINATION WITH THE
11:46:01 FAA WITH ANY TREES THAT ARE PLANTED IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
11:46:04 WITH THAT, TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $166,000 IN THIS YEAR, IN
11:46:11 OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS, BETWEEN THE TREE TRUST -- THE TREE
11:46:16 TRUST FUND, SPECIAL PROJECTS, AND THE DOLLARS FROM THE
11:46:19 TREMENDOUS TREE PROGRAM.
11:46:24 IT'S 166,000 SPENT ROUGHLY THIS YEAR.
11:46:28 IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE DOLLARS THAT ARE IN THE
11:46:31 ACCOUNT NOW TO THE TUNE OF THE OLD ORDINANCE OF ABOUT
11:46:35 $1.3 MILLION THAT IS THE BALANCE AT THIS TIME.
11:46:39 THE REASON FOR THAT BALANCE BEING HIGHER THAN IT HAS IN
11:46:41 THE PAST, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART WITH THAT, IT WAS
11:46:45 AROUND 160, 170 THOUSAND FOR THE YEARS UNTIL IT SPIKED UP
11:46:51 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, FY '18, AND FY '19 TO WHERE
11:46:58 IT'S BEEN IN THE SIX TO SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR
11:47:01 RANGE.
11:47:02 SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD A RECENT SPIKE WITH THE DOLLARS
11:47:05 THERE.
11:47:06 HOWEVER, WITH THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE, THE TIMING OF
11:47:08 THAT ACTUALLY MAY BE VERY GOOD FOR US.
11:47:11 WE'RE AT THE TIME NOW WITH THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS GOING
11:47:15 ON, PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN PROCESS IS LOOKING AT OUR
11:47:18 FACILITIES AND LOOKING AT WHERE WE HAVE SPECIFIC
11:47:21 LOCATIONS THAT WE WANT TO DO PLANTINGS THAT WOULD BE IN
11:47:24 TUNE WITH MASTER PLANS.
11:47:25 SO IT DOES GIVE US A POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT AS
11:47:28 WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIAL PROJECTS TO DO WITHIN THE CITY
11:47:33 AS WELL.
11:47:34 WE THINK THAT THAT PROVIDES EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY
11:47:36 TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCE WAS
11:47:41 CHANGED.
11:47:42 THE NEW ORDINANCE DOLLARS ARE BEING POCKETED, OR THEY ARE
11:47:47 BEING SEGREGATED INTO FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS BASED ON THE
11:47:51 FIVE DISTRICTS, AND THAT 1.3 MILLION IS ALL DOLLARS FROM
11:47:55 THE PRIOR ORDINANCE VERSUS THE NEW.
11:48:05 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOLLOWING THE AUDIT, THE AUDIT
11:48:06 DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL.
11:48:07 TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THE MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SWEPT AND IT'S
11:48:10 ALL BEING USED FOR TREES.
11:48:16 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:48:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE THIS AUDIT -- I BELIEVE I
11:48:19 CALLED FOR THE AUDIT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
11:48:22 I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK I DID.
11:48:22 BASED ON THE FACT THAT WHEN WE WERE IN NEGOTIATION WITH
11:48:25 ALL INVOLVED, REGARDING THE TREE ORDINANCE, THE GOOD
11:48:28 PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED FROM DAVIS ISLANDS, THE SAY
11:48:31 SOMETHING, TREE SOMETHING, THE DEVELOPERS, ALL OF US, WE
11:48:34 COULD NOT COME UP WITH AN AGGREGATE TOTAL OF MONEY SPENT
11:48:39 AND TREES PLACED.
11:48:40 WE COULD NOT COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
11:48:43 ARE YOU SAYING NOW THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION
11:48:46 SAYING THERE WAS SO MUCH MONEY, SO MUCH WAS SPENT, AND
11:48:48 THESE WERE THE TREES, EQUAL THE MONEY THAT WE LET OUT?
11:48:53 >>PAUL DIAL: THE TREE ORDINANCE IS DIVIDING IT UP
11:48:55 DIFFERENTLY THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
11:48:57 SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE YOU NOW AND GIVE
11:49:01 THAT DIVISION FROM THE PAST YEARS. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU
11:49:04 IS WE WILL BE -- WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE, ALL THE DOLLARS
11:49:08 BEING DIVIDED INTO FIVE POTS SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE
11:49:12 WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
11:49:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, HOW
11:49:16 MANY DIVIDED IN THE CITY, FOUR OR FIVE?
11:49:19 >>PAUL DIAL: FIVE.
11:49:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S SAY THERE IS A DOLLAR IN EACH
11:49:22 ONE OF THEM AND WE'RE PLANTING TREES.
11:49:24 AT THE END OF THE YEAR, CAN WE RECONCILE THAT NOT ONLY
11:49:28 TREES PLANTED IN THOSE AREAS BUT EQUALS THE SUMS THAT WE
11:49:30 HAD IN THE POT?
11:49:31 >>PAUL DIAL: WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT, YES.
11:49:34 IN FACT, RIGHT NOW MONEY WAS APPROVED IN OUR OPERATING
11:49:37 BUDGET RIGHT NOW FOR SOFTWARE SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO
11:49:40 PIN DOWN TO THE LOCATION OF THOSE TREES FOR FUTURE --
11:49:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
11:49:46 YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT,
11:49:48 BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS GOING SOMEPLACE AND SOMEBODY ELSE
11:49:51 WAS PLANTING TREES.
11:49:52 IT NEVER COULD CORRECTLY COME UP WITH A BALANCE.
11:49:56 >>PAUL DIAL: THAT'S THE INTENT OF HAVING THE SOFTWARE
11:49:58 AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE.
11:49:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:50:00 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:50:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. DIAL.
11:50:02 THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA, THOSE ARE SOME GOOD QUESTIONS AND
11:50:09 ANSWERS.
11:50:10 PAUL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
11:50:15 SPENDING, LET'S SAY ON THE OLDER MONEY, THE MILLION
11:50:18 DOLLARS OR WHATEVER IS LEFT.
11:50:20 >>PAUL DIAL: YES.
11:50:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
11:50:24 LANDSCAPING AND SHRUBS AND BUSHES, THAT WE'RE TALKING
11:50:27 ABOUT CALIPER OF TREES.
11:50:30 >>PAUL DIAL: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TREES.
11:50:31 YES.
11:50:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HEARD SUSPICIONS
11:50:35 IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SAYS, OH, YOU'RE JUST THROWING IT
11:50:38 INTO PARKS AND PLANTING FLOWERS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
11:50:42 NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH FLOWERS BUT I DON'T
11:50:44 THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE.
11:50:46 >>PAUL DIAL: THAT WOULD NOT BE THE INTENT.
11:50:49 ANY REQUEST WE MADE FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS HAVE BEEN FOR
11:50:51 TREE PLANTINGS.
11:50:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOW THE REVISED ORDINANCE SPEAKS
11:51:01 SPECIFICALLY TO THE DISTRICTS.
11:51:02 THE DISTRICTS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM IS WHERE THE
11:51:06 MONEY IS BEING RETURNED TO.
11:51:08 >>PAUL DIAL: CORRECT.
11:51:09 AGAIN, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT SPENT ANY DOLLARS OUT
11:51:13 OF, I'LL SAY THE NEW MONEY, IT WAS VERY RECENT.
11:51:16 BUT THAT'S WHERE IT IS EARMARKED TO GO AND WOULD GO INTO
11:51:19 THE FUTURE, YES.
11:51:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:51:22 WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT 34th STREET AMONG
11:51:28 OURSELVES AND WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT
11:51:30 ARE BEING PROPOSED THERE.
11:51:32 I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST, FRIENDLY SUGGESTION, THAT YOU WORK
11:51:38 CLOSELY WITH MS. DUNCAN TO PERHAPS USE SOME OF THIS TREE
11:51:43 MONEY, EVEN THE OLDER MONEY, TO ENHANCE 34th STREET AND
11:51:49 MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL TREED CORRIDOR, INCLUDING ANY
11:51:54 POSSIBLE PLANTINGS ON THE ROUNDABOUTS.
11:51:57 >>PAUL DIAL: SO NOTED.
11:51:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:52:00 ANYONE ELSE?
11:52:03 >>BILL CARLSON: BACK TO THOSE ZONES, HOW COME THERE ARE
11:52:06 FIVE INSTEAD OF FOUR?
11:52:07 >>PAUL DIAL: I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE WAS WITH FIVE ZONES.
11:52:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK WHAT MR. CARLSON IS ASKING,
11:52:15 COUNCIL -- [INAUDIBLE]
11:52:18 >>PAUL DIAL: I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT.
11:52:20 WE WEREN'T INVOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE
11:52:21 DISTRICTS.
11:52:24 >>THOM SNELLING: THOM SNELLING, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
11:52:26 DIRECTOR.
11:52:26 THEY SELECTED THE FIVE DISTRICTS.
11:52:27 THEY MODELED THAT AFTER THE FIVE EXISTING PLANNING
11:52:29 DISTRICTS THAT WERE INSIDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:52:31 SO THAT'S WHY THEY WENT WITH THE FIVE DISTRICTS BECAUSE
11:52:34 THEY ALREADY -- PLANNING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:52:38 IT'S CENTRAL TAMPA, WESTSHORE, UNIVERSITY, NEW TAMPA, AND
11:52:41 SOUTH TAMPA.
11:52:42 THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO TRY TO KEEP AN INTERNAL
11:52:45 CONSISTENCY AS WELL.
11:52:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:52:49 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:52:51 WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:52:52 NEXT IS 63.
11:52:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ASKED FOR THIS.
11:53:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, SO WHEN WE GOT INTO
11:53:06 THE DISCUSSION ABOUT TAP AND PIPES AND ALL OF THAT, ABOUT
11:53:11 WASTEWATER AND WATER, I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY IN THE
11:53:16 COMMUNITY AND THE CITY THAT THE OLD MANTRA THAT FUTURE
11:53:21 GROWTH SHOULD CONTRIBUTE AND HELP PAY FOR ITSELF.
11:53:27 THE BURDEN OF FUTURE GROWTH SHOULD NOT BE ON THE PEOPLE
11:53:32 ALREADY HERE BUT SOME OF THAT BURDEN SHOULD BE SHIFTED TO
11:53:34 THE FOLKS WHO ARE COMING.
11:53:36 OFTEN THAT'S SPOKEN IN TERMS OF IMPACT FEES AND THAT'S
11:53:39 WHAT MR. BAIRD IS GOING TO REPORT ON.
11:53:46 >>BRAD BAIRD: HELLO.
11:53:47 BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
11:53:49 AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, THIS ITEM 63 IS TO ADDRESS
11:53:57 THE POTENTIAL USE OF IMPACT FEES ON PAYING THE FAIR SHARE
11:54:03 OF WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS.
11:54:07 SO YOU'LL RECALL IMPACT FEES OR CAPACITY FEES ARE THE
11:54:14 THIRD COMPONENT OF THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER RATE
11:54:18 STUDY.
11:54:20 THE PIPES PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 5th
11:54:23 WAS FUNDED WITH THE FIRST TWO COMPONENTS.
11:54:26 THAT WOULD BE THE BASE CHARGES AND THE CONSUMPTION RATES.
11:54:30 CAPACITY FEES ARE A ONE-TIME CHARGE RESTRICTED TO FUNDING
11:54:37 THE COST OF PROVIDING WATER AND/OR WASTEWATER CAPACITY TO
11:54:41 SERVE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
11:54:42 AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP OUR CONSULTANT,
11:54:49 MR. MURRAY HAMILTON WHO IS HERE TODAY TO PRESENT PROPOSED
11:54:57 IMPACT FEES OR CAPACITY FEES.
11:55:01 THERE'S NO VOTE TODAY.
11:55:02 IT'S FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
11:55:04 WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO TO INVOLVE THE DEVELOPMENT
11:55:09 COMMUNITY AND GET THEIR INPUT.
11:55:11 BUT WHILE MURRAY IS COMING UP HERE, THE FOLKS WITH CTTV
11:55:18 IN THE BACK WILL NEED TO COME UP AND WAKE UP THE
11:55:21 COMPUTER.
11:55:22 IT'S FALLEN ASLEEP.
11:55:23 SO WE HAD TO DO THE PRESENTATION ON THE COMPUTER UP HERE.
11:55:27 SO IF I COULD GET SOMEBODY TO COME UP.
11:55:29 THANK YOU, DAN.
11:55:31 >>LUIS VIERA: DAN, DO WE NEED TO BREAK AT 12 FOR THE
11:55:34 HAPPY HOLIDAYS GREETING?
11:55:58 BEFORE, IF I MAY, WE NEED TO DO OUR ANNUAL HOLIDAY
11:56:01 GREETINGS.
11:56:01 SO AFTER THIS REPORT, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK FOR LUNCH, JUST
11:56:05 TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.
11:56:07 AFTER STAFF REPORTS, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK FOR THE
11:56:10 FINAL ITEM AND THEN THE REVIEW HEARINGS.
11:56:16 >> MR. MURRAY HAMILTON.
11:56:27 >>MURRAY HAMILTON: THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD.
11:56:28 MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, FOR THE
11:56:28 RECORD, MY NAME IS MURRAY HAMILTON.
11:56:29 I'M A SENIOR MANAGER AT RAFTELIS.
11:56:29 WE ARE A UTILITY RATE AND FINANCIAL CONSULTING FIRM.
11:56:31 WITH ME TODAY IS ONE OF OUR FIRM'S VICE PRESIDENTS, HENRY
11:56:36 THOMAS, WHO ALSO SERVED AS THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS
11:56:40 SPECIFIC ENGAGEMENT.
11:56:41 OUR FIRM WAS ASKED TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THE ADEQUACY
11:56:48 OF THE CITY'S EXISTING WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES.
11:56:51 OR IMPACT FEES, AND ALSO TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF
11:56:56 IMPLEMENTING A NEW WATER IMPACT FEE AS WELL.
11:56:58 FOR THE PURPOSES OF TODAY, WE JUST HAVE A FEW TOPICS THAT
11:57:02 WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, SPECIFICALLY THE
11:57:05 DESIGN CRITERIA AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE IMPACT FEES.
11:57:08 OUR OVERALL ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING THE CHARGES,
11:57:12 THE PROPOSED FEES RECOMMENDED FOR THE WATER AND
11:57:15 WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT A
11:57:18 COMPARISON OF THE PROPOSED FEES AMONG VARIOUS OTHER
11:57:24 UTILITIES IN FLORIDA.
11:57:26 UNDER THE IMPACT FEE ACT, WHICH IS RELATIVELY NEW IN
11:57:33 TERMS OF ITS AGE, IT WAS IMPLEMENTED BACK IN 2006 AND HAS
11:57:39 BEEN UPDATED SEVERAL TIMES SINCE THEN, PARTICULARLY IN
11:57:43 OUR LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN 2019.
11:57:45 UNDER THE FLORIDA IMPACT FEE ACT, THERE'S REALLY
11:57:51 APPROXIMATELY FIVE TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS PARTICULAR
11:57:54 REQUIREMENT.
11:57:55 ONE THAT THE IMPACT FEES BE BASED ON THE MOST RECENTLY
11:57:58 LOCALIZED DATA, THAT THE CITY CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN
11:58:01 SEPARATE ACCOUNTING OF THE IMPACT FEES AND DIFFERENT
11:58:05 REVENUE FUNDS.
11:58:05 IT LIMITS ANY ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES THAT THE CITY WOULD
11:58:08 APPLY TO THESE FEES.
11:58:10 WE DO HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR A 90-DAY NOTICING REQUIREMENT
11:58:14 TO IMPLEMENT A NEW FEE OR AN INCREASE CHARGE.
11:58:19 AND THEN THE RECENT BILL, THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION,
11:58:22 REQUIRES THAT WE CANNOT COLLECT THE FEES ANY EARLIER THAN
11:58:25 THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
11:58:27 IN ADDITION TO THE FLORIDA IMPACT FEE ACT, MOST OF THE
11:58:32 GUIDANCE COMES TO US FROM FLORIDA CASE LAW, MOST OF WHICH
11:58:36 IS MORE THAN 30 YEARS OLD.
11:58:38 SPECIFICALLY, THE CASE LAW TELLS US WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
11:58:41 THAT WE TREAT ALL CUSTOMERS AND ALL PARTIES EQUITABLY IN
11:58:45 TERMS OF APPLYING THE IMPACT FEES.
11:58:47 THE CHARGES THEMSELVES NEED TO BE BASED UPON A RATIONAL
11:58:52 NEXUS OR ENSURE THAT THERE IS -- YES, SIR.
11:58:54 A LINK BETWEEN THE COST OF CAPACITY AND THE CUSTOMER'S
11:59:00 DEMANDS ON EACH UTILITY SYSTEM.
11:59:02 IN DEVELOPING THE CHARGES, WE CAN'T ARBITRARILY SET THE
11:59:07 FEES TOO HIGH, THAT WOULD INTENTIONALLY PROVIDE A
11:59:11 WINDFALL TO OUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS.
11:59:13 THEY ARE SET TO RECOVER THE CAPITAL COSTS RELATED TO
11:59:16 UPGRADES OF THE SYSTEM, EXPANSIONS OF THE SYSTEM THAT --
11:59:20 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFOREHAND.
11:59:22 I'M SO SORRY.
11:59:23 WE HAVE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:59:29 IF THE CONVERSATION IN THE BACK WITH THE COUNCILMAN CAN
11:59:34 BE HELD OUTSIDE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
11:59:36 TOO OFTEN THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL, IF YOU
11:59:39 DON'T MIND.
11:59:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS GENTLEMAN IS WITH THAT GENTLEMAN.
11:59:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW.
11:59:47 JUST TO PLEASE HAVE IT OUTSIDE.
11:59:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT INTERRUPTING YOU, AM I?
11:59:51 >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, IF YOU COULD HAVE IT OUTSIDE.
11:59:53 I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
11:59:54 I'M SORRY, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING QUASI-JUDICIAL
11:59:56 HEARINGS.
11:59:57 JUST PLEASE HAVE IT OUTSIDE.
11:59:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS NOT A QUASI---
12:00:00 >>LUIS VIERA: JOHN, PLEASE.
12:00:01 WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE UNTIL YOU DO THAT, PLEASE.
12:00:03 MS. ZELMAN.
12:00:12 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I APOLOGIZE.
12:00:13 I WAS OUT OF THE ROOM.
12:00:15 >>LUIS VIERA: JOHN, IF YOU COULD PLEASE HAVE THAT
12:00:17 CONVERSATION OUTSIDE.
12:00:18 I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE.
12:00:19 I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
12:00:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR BREAK AND --
12:00:27 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, PLEASE HAVE THE
12:00:29 CONVERSATION OUTSIDE.
12:00:30 I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
12:00:32 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK THE CONCERN, IF I MAY, IS IT
12:00:35 CREATES THE APPEARANCE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO
12:00:39 WHAT'S AT THE PODIUM AND OTHERS ARE NOT.
12:00:44 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
12:00:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MY FRIEND.
12:00:46 I APPRECIATE IT.
12:00:47 OKAY.
12:00:48 CONTINUE, SIR.
12:00:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
12:00:53 I SPECIFICALLY WAS ASKING THIS GENTLEMAN, WHO IS THE VICE
12:00:57 PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY, WHO I MET WITH YESTERDAY FOR
12:00:59 ABOUT AN HOUR ON THIS TOPIC, OKAY?
12:01:02 OF HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
12:01:05 INTO THIS PROGRAM.
12:01:07 EXCUSE ME.
12:01:09 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN --
12:01:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXCUSE ME.
12:01:12 LET ME FINISH.
12:01:12 YOU BROUGHT MY NAME UP.
12:01:13 >>LUIS VIERA: WE'RE TAKING A BREAK.
12:01:15 THIS IS OUT OF LINE.
12:01:15 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:01:16 I APOLOGIZE FOR EVERYONE WHO IS WATCHING THIS.
12:01:18 LET'S TAKE A TWO-MINUTE BREAK.
12:01:20 MR. SHELBY, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS?
12:01:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU IN RECESS?
12:01:24 >>LUIS VIERA: APPARENTLY SO.
12:01:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN WE COME BACK FROM RECESS.
12:01:26 THANK YOU.
12:01:28 [RECESS]
12:01:29
12:23:08 (TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
12:23:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
12:23:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
12:23:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I JUST TOLD YOU I'M HERE. (LAUGHTER)
12:23:45 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
12:23:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
12:23:45 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
12:23:49 OKAY.
12:23:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:50 COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
12:23:51 WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS NOT
12:23:54 HERE PRESENTLY AND THIS WAS HIS ITEM, SO WE ARE GOING TO
12:23:57 PAUSE THAT, IF WE MAY, AND MOVE FORWARD TO, I BELIEVE,
12:23:59 NEXT IS ITEM 58.
12:24:04 AND WHO IS HERE FOR 58?
12:24:08 GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:24:08 DO YOU HAVE PRESENTATION?
12:24:10 >> VIK BHIDE, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.
12:24:17 THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO NEW DEVELOPMENT IN DISTRICT 7,
12:24:20 NEW TAMPA.
12:24:21 IT'S OFF OF MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD JUST NORTH OF BASSETT
12:24:28 CREEK, EXTENSION OF K BAR RANCHES, IT'S TWO PARCELS E AND
12:24:32 F, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM, THIS IS THE FIRST OF
12:24:36 TWO-PART PROCESS TO ESTABLISH A STREETLIGHTING DISTRICT.
12:24:40 AND A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE SAME.
12:24:43 SO MORRIS BRIDGE MANNERS, HOA, IS APPLYING FOR
12:24:48 STREETLIGHT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
12:24:54 AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THIS IS RELATIVELY
12:24:57 STANDARD PROCESS WHERE THE CITY REQUIRES THE DEVELOPER
12:24:59 PAYS FOR STREET LIGHTS, BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
12:25:05 SO THE FIRST PART OF THIS PROCESS HERE IS FOR COUNCIL TO
12:25:10 ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES, AND THAT'S PART OF THE
12:25:13 APPLICATION PACKET.
12:25:15 AND ALSO THE UNIFORM METHOD OF ASSESSING THE CHARGES FOR
12:25:21 THIS DISTRICT.
12:25:23 THE SECOND PART IS THE ACTUAL CHARGES, OR THE ACTUAL
12:25:27 ASSESSMENT, AND THAT WILL LIKELY BE SOMETIME IN MAY ONCE
12:25:31 THE TAX ROLL COMES OUT AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PARCELS
12:25:35 ARE.
12:25:36 THE SITE IS GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THE LIGHTS
12:25:38 WILL BE ON TECO'S SYSTEM AS A STANDARD WITH ALL
12:25:42 DEVELOPMENTS.
12:25:44 SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE AND
12:25:48 WE HAVE LEGAL AS WELL.
12:25:49 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL?
12:25:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS WHERE THEY PAY FOR THEIR OWN
12:25:55 LIGHTS?
12:25:55 >> CORRECT.
12:25:56 THE LIGHT THAT BENEFITS THE DEVELOPMENT.
12:25:59 YES.
12:26:00 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THIS IS A COMMUNITY WITHIN K-BAR
12:26:02 RANCH THAT CURRENTLY PRIVATES AND DESIRES THIS
12:26:06 ASSESSMENT, CORRECT?
12:26:07 >> YES, SIR.
12:26:08 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:26:09 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:26:10 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:26:11 >> SECOND.
12:26:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
12:26:15 >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT SIR.
12:26:16 IS ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 58?
12:26:18 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
12:26:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN'T CLOSE.
12:26:22 YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:26:26 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:26:29 OH, I'M SORRY.
12:26:32 MOTION BY CITRO.
12:26:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:26:37 ANY OPPOSED?
12:26:38 OKAY.
12:26:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:43 LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN AND THE GENTLEMEN WHO ARE HERE
12:26:46 FOR THIS STAFF REPORT, I APOLOGIZE.
12:26:49 JUST AS A COURTESY TO OUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN
12:26:52 DINGFELDER WHO IS NOT HERE, I DON'T WANT TO CONCLUDE THIS
12:26:55 AS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY WHICH I FEIGNED IMPORTANT.
12:26:58 SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH OUR
12:27:01 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
12:27:02 IS ANYBODY HERE FOR 59?
12:27:05 WE MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY TAKE A BREAK IF THE PARTIES
12:27:07 AREN'T HERE BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN CONFUSION AND DELAY.
12:27:10 >> BOTH OF MY APPLICANTS LEFT.
12:27:22 69 HOW ABOUT WE RECONVENE AT 1:15 AND WE TAKE A BREAK AND
12:27:26 WE SHALL RETURN.
12:27:28 STRIKE THAT.
12:27:28 IS ANYBODY HERE FOR A HEARING, PARTIES HERE?
12:27:32 WHAT NUMBER IS THE THAT?
12:27:33 >> THE VERY LAST ONE.
12:27:35 >> 61.
12:27:39 >> WE CAN DO THAT.
12:27:41 >>CHAIRMAN VIERA: HOW ARE YOU WITH LUNCH?
12:27:43 ARE YOU SURE?
12:27:44 OKAY.
12:27:45 LET'S MOVE TO 61 THEN.
12:27:46 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:27:51 ITEM 61 IS THE PETITION FOR REVIEW.
12:27:54 AS YOU KNOW, IN PETITIONS FOR REVIEW, CITY COUNCIL STEPS
12:27:56 INTO THE SHOES, IF YOU WILL, OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
12:28:01 AND HAS THE POWER AND AUTHORITY.
12:28:03 YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE ALL NEW EVIDENCE IN THIS
12:28:05 HEARING.
12:28:06 THIS ONE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE DESIGN EXCEPTION,
12:28:09 AND SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT YOU HEAR, A LITTLE BIT OF
12:28:12 PROCESS INVOLVED.
12:28:14 THE UNDERLYING REQUEST WAS A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHETHER
12:28:16 OR NOT A CHANGE OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL
12:28:20 CHANGE AS DEFINED BY YOUR CODE, HAS TO COME BACK IN FOR A
12:28:24 NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
12:28:26 AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU APPROVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THERE
12:28:29 IS A SITE PLAN ATTACHED TO IT AND THERE'S AN EXPECTATION
12:28:32 THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
12:28:37 SITE PLAN.
12:28:38 THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE ARE SLIGHT DEVIATIONS
12:28:41 FROM THE PLAN AND THE CODE ANTICIPATES THAT AND HAS A
12:28:45 LIST OF THINGS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE THEM TO COME BACK FOR
12:28:47 A FULL NEW REZONING.
12:28:49 IF YOU DO NOT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, YOU HAVE TO COME
12:28:51 BACK IN FOR A FULL NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING TO DO
12:28:55 YOUR CHANGE, AND THAT'S WHAT BE THE QUESTION IS TODAY.
12:28:57 THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS
12:28:59 CHANGE IF IT CAME IN FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING,
12:29:02 BUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THE TYPE OF CHANGE THAT YOU
12:29:04 BELIEVE UNDER YOUR EXISTING CODE SHOULD BE
12:29:06 ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
12:29:09 I DO HAVE SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU AND I AM ALSO GOING TO
12:29:12 PASS OUT THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT HULL BE LOOKING AT.
12:29:16 THIS CRITERIA.
12:29:17 I HIGHLIGHTED IT IN YELLOW.
12:29:19 THE ONES, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOUND IT DID NOT MEET,
12:29:23 BUT IF YOU WERE TO FIND IT DID MEET ANY OF THEM, THEN IT
12:29:26 WOULD NEED A NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
12:29:27 BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES.
12:29:38 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL PRESENTLY?
12:29:47 AND DID YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING?
12:29:50 >> FOR THE RECORD, AS COUNCIL KNOWS, I JOINED THE CITY A
12:29:54 FEW MONTHS AGO.
12:29:56 PRIOR TO JOINING THE CITY, I REPRESENTED THIS APPLICANT.
12:29:59 I ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THE INITIAL APPLICATION BUT WAS
12:30:03 DENIED, AND MY CLIENT AND FORMER LAW PARTNER AS WELL,
12:30:09 DOUG SHANNON, IS PICKING UP THE MANTLE FROM HERE.
12:30:12 I JUST WANT TO ADVISE YOU OF THAT.
12:30:15 I OBVIOUSLY CANNOT COMMENT, CANNOT ASSIST AT ALL IN THIS
12:30:19 MATTER BUT YOU ARE IN GOOD HANDS WITH REBECCA AS WELL.
12:30:22 THANK YOU.
12:30:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN.
12:30:25 WE APPRECIATE THAT AND YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.
12:30:30 DOAK DOCK PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
12:30:34 COUNCIL, AS MENTIONED, ITEM 61 IS AN APPEAL HEARING OF
12:30:39 THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DECISION, AND IT'S FOR THE
12:30:42 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1810 NORTH HIGH LAND AVENUE. THIS
12:30:45 PROPERTY IS A PART OF AN OVERALL PDA THAT WAS APPROVED.
12:30:49 THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2018.
12:30:51 IT'S UNDER REZ 18-119.
12:30:54 I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST OF ALL JUST REVIEW WHAT I HAVE
12:30:56 PROVIDED FOR YOU.
12:30:58 IT INCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT, AND THE NEXT DOCUMENT
12:31:02 PROVIDED FOR YOU WITHIN THAT PACKET IS THE CURRENT
12:31:05 APPROVAL OF THE PDA ZONING.
12:31:07 AND IT CONTAINS FIVE PAGES OF SITE PLAN, AND THAT IS THE
12:31:12 APPROVAL THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY NOW, AND IT'S FOR THE
12:31:14 PROJECT AREA KNOWN AS THE HEIGHTS.
12:31:16 AND THEN THE SECOND PAGE THAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU IN THE
12:31:19 PACKET WHICH IS THE ONE SHEET DOCUMENT, THAT IS THE PLAN
12:31:22 THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW.
12:31:26 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FIRST IS WALK YOU THROUGH THE
12:31:28 AREA THAT'S UNDER THE REQUEST.
12:31:30 JUST TO EXPLAIN THE PDA APPROVAL FOR YOU.
12:31:37 SO THE BOUNDARY THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED DOTTED
12:31:43 LINE, THAT IS THE OVERALL PROJECT BOUNDARY FOR THE PDA.
12:31:47 SO THAT IS KNOWN AS THE HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT, BOUNDED ON
12:31:51 THE WEST BY MARKS BOULEVARD, TO THE NORTH, DROPS DOWN TO
12:31:56 PALM AVENUE, THE EASTERN BOUNDARY IS TAMPA STREET, AND
12:31:59 THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY IS THE RIVER.
12:32:01 AND SO THIS IS THE OVERALL BOUNDARY. THIS IS THE AREA
12:32:05 UNDER THE REQUEST WHICH IS ON HIGHLAND.
12:32:09 JUST TO ADVISE YOU, COUNCIL, A PDA, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
12:32:12 ALTERNATIVE, IS FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE GENERALLY OVER
12:32:16 FIFTY ACRES.
12:32:17 WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PDA IS THERE IS AN OVERALL BOUNDARY
12:32:20 THAT IS PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL, AND THAT
12:32:23 BOUNDARY ALSO CONSISTED OF THE ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN THAT
12:32:28 BOUNDARY, THE ENTITLEMENT, AND ANY TRADE-OFF MECHANISM
12:32:33 THAT WOULD OCCUR.
12:32:34 SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT CAME WITH THE LIST OF
12:32:38 CONDITIONS ALONG WITH THE ENTITLEMENT.
12:32:40 AND I WILL GO OVER THOSE WITH YOU MOMENTARILY, ALSO.
12:32:46 FOR THIS PARTICULAR OVERALL APPROVAL WAS BROKEN UP, A
12:32:51 TOTAL OF FIVE TRACTS.
12:32:55 JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THIS MAP, THIS IS BOULEVARD.
12:32:59 THIS IS PALM AVENUE.
12:33:02 THE MOST NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
12:33:04 AND THEN TAMPA STREET IS TO THE EAST.
12:33:06 THIS IS THE RIVER TO THE SOUTH.
12:33:09 SO THE USES ALLOWED UNDER THIS DA ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE
12:33:12 UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE.
12:33:14 TO THE NORTH WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE, THEN FUTURE
12:33:18 LAND USE DESIGNATION IS R35 WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL 35, IN
12:33:22 THE CENTER TRACT 2 AND SOUTH OF PALM AVENUE THE LAND USE
12:33:27 CATEGORY IS RMU 100 REGIONAL MIXED USE SO THAT ALLOWS FOR
12:33:31 MORE COMMERCIAL, MORE INTENSE USES WITHIN THAT AREA SOUTH
12:33:34 OF PALM.
12:33:34 THERE IS A LITTLE POCKET OF 35 WHICH IS IN THE NORTHEAST
12:33:40 CORNER, BUT YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT
12:33:42 ENTITLEMENT TABLE, THOSE LAND USES ARE LISTED.
12:33:47 BUT TRACT 1 IS IDENTIFIED IN ORANGE.
12:33:50 TRACT 3 IS IDENTIFIED IN THE YELLOW.
12:33:52 THIS IS THE TRACT IN QUESTION.
12:33:55 TRACT 4 IS IN THE BLUE.
12:33:57 AND TRACT 5 IS IN AND OUTLINED IN PINK.
12:34:02 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WONDERED FOR THESE TRACTS, THIS IS
12:34:04 ALL A PRETTY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
12:34:06 HOW LONG AGO WERE THESE DESIGNATIONS CHANGED?
12:34:09 IS THIS SOMETHING IN THE LAST FIVE OR TEN YEARS OR HAVE
12:34:12 THEY BEEN DESIGNATED LIKE THIS FOREVER?
12:34:15 >>LACHONE DOCK: IT WAS CHANGED IN 2018.
12:34:17 SO IN 2018 IT WAS REZONED.
12:34:20 PDA TO PDA.
12:34:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M SORRY, TRACTS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, NOT JUST
12:34:28 THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, WAS THE WHOLE SURROUNDING AREA
12:34:30 CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS OR WAS IT ALWAYS --
12:34:34 >>LACHONE DOCK: YOU MEAN THIS BOUNDARY?
12:34:37 >> THE ZONING DESIGNATION AND TRACTS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, SINCE
12:34:42 THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IS RELATIVELY NEW, DID THIS GO
12:34:45 THROUGH ZONING CHANGE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS?
12:34:48 >>LACHONE DOCK: THIS WAS THE 2018 REZONING THAT WAS
12:34:50 APPROVED.
12:34:52 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
12:34:52 >>LACHONE DOCK: IT'S ALL IN ONE PD BOUND BOUNDARY.
12:34:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT THE ZONINGS PRIOR TO THAT AND AT
12:34:59 ONE TIME THIS IS A VACANT PIECE OF LAND AND THEY SOLD
12:35:02 LOTS, RESIDENTIAL LOTS OR SOMETHING, THEN THEY HAD IT
12:35:04 REZONED, AND THEN SOMEBODY -- THE WHOLE THING WAS ZONED
12:35:10 AT ONE TIME.
12:35:11 >>LACHONE DOCK: CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.
12:35:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT TO INTERFERE WITH WHAT MR.
12:35:17 CARLSON JUST SAID BUT CAME BACK AND NOW IT'S WHAT IT IS
12:35:19 TODAY IN 2018.
12:35:20 >>LACHONE DOCK: YES.
12:35:22 IN 2013 IT WAS REZONED TO A PDA AND MOST OF THESE PARCELS
12:35:25 WERE COMBINED INTO ONE.
12:35:27 THERE WERE A FEW PARCELS THEY DID NOT HAVE OWNERSHIP
12:35:30 PERMISSION.
12:35:31 AND THE APPLICANT CAME BACK IN 2018 AND DID ANOTHER PDA,
12:35:34 AND THIS IS THE BOUNDARY THAT WAS GIVEN AT THAT TIME, AND
12:35:37 THIS IS THE APPROVED BOUNDARY AREA FOR 2018.
12:35:40 THAT IS THIS TODAY.
12:35:43 AND DETERMINE WHERE USE IS, BECAUSE THERE'S MANY USES
12:35:50 ALLOWED WITHIN THE OVERALL BOUNDARY.
12:35:52 IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHERE THOSE USES CAN BE LOCATED AN
12:35:55 ENTITLEMENT CHART WAS PROVIDED AND THE DEVELOPMENT WAS
12:35:57 BROKEN UP INTO THE TRACTS THAT YOU SEE HERE, JUST FOR
12:36:02 IDENTIFICATION.
12:36:02 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:36:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE.
12:36:09 ACROSS THE STREET ON PALM, ALL THE WET ZONING WENT AWAY
12:36:13 WHEN YOU -- WE DID THIS DEVELOPMENT?
12:36:17 >>LACHONE DOCK: OKAY.
12:36:18 I BELIEVE, LET ME JUST SCHOLAR IF I.
12:36:20 THIS IS THE REZONING.
12:36:22 AND THAT'S THE REZONING BOUNDARY.
12:36:24 THEN THERE'S ALSO AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ZONE BOUNDARY.
12:36:27 ON THE PROPERTY.
12:36:28 BUT THIS WHAT WE ARE REFERRING TO TODAY IS THE REZONING
12:36:32 BOUNDARY.
12:36:32 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:36:36 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:36:36 >>LACHONE DOCK: OKAY, SO THOSE ARE THE TRACTS THAT
12:36:41 IDENTIFY THE OVERALL PDA AND WHAT I HAVE DONE, SO THE
12:36:45 REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT WAS TO ALLOW MICROBREWERY USE
12:36:50 TO MOVE FROM TRACT 4 TO TRACT 3 TO ALLOW THAT.
12:36:54 AND THIS IS THE ENTITLEMENT TABLE THAT CAME, THAT
12:36:59 ECONOMISTS WITH THE CURRENT PDA.
12:37:01 WHAT I HAVE DONE IS BLOWN THIS TABLE UP JUST TO SAVE
12:37:04 EVERYONE'S EYES.
12:37:05 SO THIS ON THIS TABLE, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SEE THE
12:37:12 COLUMNS THAT HAVE ONE FOR THE TRACT, THE TRACT NUMBER,
12:37:16 AND THEN THE ALLOWABLE USES IN THE COLUMN.
12:37:22 FOR TRACT ONE IT ALLOWS FOR ALL USES UNDER RM 35 BN, RO,
12:37:28 RO-1, AND THEN FOR TRACT 2 IT ALLOWS ALL USES UNDER RM
12:37:33 75, RO-1, OP, OP 1, CG AND CI.
12:37:39 FOR TRACT 3 WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, IT ALLOWS FOR
12:37:46 RESTAURANT.
12:37:46 FOR TRACT 4 IT ALLOWS FOR RESTAURANT, MICROBREWERY.
12:37:50 AND THERE'S A FOOTNOTE NUMBER 5, THESE ARE THE FOOTNOTES
12:37:54 THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE USES THAT WILL FIT IN IN
12:37:58 THIS TABLE.
12:37:58 FOOTNOTE NUMBER 5 IS IRRELEVANT BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD
12:38:02 IT MENTIONS NO FREE STANDING STRUCTURES, ALLOWS THE WATER
12:38:09 WORKS AREA, BUT WHAT IS PERTINENT HERE IS THE FOOTNOTE.
12:38:12 FOR THE ALLOWABLE USES HAVE FOOTNOTES 1, 2 AND 3.
12:38:16 FOOTNOTE NUMBER 1 STATES THAT THE DEVELOPER SHALL HAVE
12:38:18 THE ABILITY TO HAVE ENTITLEMENTS WITHIN TRACTS 1 AND 2
12:38:23 BETWEEN ANY ALLOWABLE LAND USES WITH DAILY TRIP
12:38:27 GENERATION AND THIS IS WHAT STAFF LOOKS AT IN MAKING THE
12:38:30 ANALYSIS.
12:38:31 NORMALLY, IF YOU HAVE A PDA THAT IS APPROVED AND AN
12:38:35 APPLICANT COMES BEFORE US AND THEY REQUEST TO EXCHANGE
12:38:37 THE LAND USES, IF THEY CAN SHOW THEY CAN MEET THE CODE
12:38:40 REQUIREMENT, THEN THAT IS ALLOWED IF THEY CAN SHOW THAT
12:38:43 THEY HAVE THE ENTITLEMENT.
12:38:45 AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THE FOOTNOTE SPECIFIES WHERE
12:38:50 THESE USES WILL TAKE PLACE.
12:38:52 AND IT SPECIFIES THE TRADE-OFFS THAT ARE ALLOWED BETWEEN
12:38:58 THE TRACTS OF THE SO WITHOUT THOSE FOOTNOTES THAT WOULD
12:39:00 BE DIFFERENT.
12:39:01 SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF USED TO MAKE THE ANALYSIS.
12:39:08 SO WHAT I HAVE DONE IS PROVIDED FOR THE SECTION 27-138
12:39:12 WHICH IS PROVIDED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT, STARTING ON
12:39:15 PAGE 2, AND IT LISTS THE CRITERIA.
12:39:18 BUT JUST TO MENTION, AND THE CHANGE REVIEW PROCESS WITHIN
12:39:22 THE CODE FOR THE APPLICANT, THE PAYMENT, BUT IT DOES
12:39:28 MENTION THAT CHANGES TO AN APPROVED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN
12:39:31 MAY BE PERMITTED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WITH REVIEW
12:39:34 AND CONCURRENCE BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE,
12:39:37 PROVIDED THE CHANGES ARE DETERMINED TO BE NONSUBSTANTIAL.
12:39:41 WHEN A PROPOSED CHANGE AND CRITERIA, THEREBY CONSTITUTING
12:39:47 A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, SUCH CHANGE SHALL BE PROCESSED IN
12:39:51 LIKE MANNER AS THE ORIGINAL REZONING SUBMITTAL.
12:39:54 SO IN REVIEW, IT WAS SECTION C, AND SECTION G, THAT STAFF
12:40:00 FOUND TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT THE REQUEST
12:40:05 SUBMITTED IS SUBSTANTIAL.
12:40:06 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:40:12 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:40:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER.
12:40:17 MR. BAIRD WAS HALFWAY THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION DUE TO MY
12:40:20 ISSUE THAT GOT DELAYED.
12:40:22 I APPRECIATE YOU DELAYING IT.
12:40:23 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CRITICAL IF WE FINISH IT TODAY, IF
12:40:27 COUNCIL WANTS TO PUT IT OFF FOR TWO WEEKS.
12:40:31 IF MR. BAIRD IS GOOD WITH THAT, THAT'S FINE, TOO.
12:40:34 >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN DO THAT.
12:40:35 WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
12:40:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF IT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL AND
12:40:39 MR. BAIRD, I MOVE WE DEFER THIS TILL THE NEXT MEETING IN
12:40:42 JANUARY.
12:40:44 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:40:46 A SECOND I BELIEVE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:40:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:40:49 ANY OPPOSED?
12:40:49 OKAY.
12:40:51 YOU GUYS ARE RELEASED.
12:40:52 THANK YOU.
12:40:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WHILE I HAVE GOT THE FLOOR, I WILL
12:40:56 APOLOGIZE TO MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:40:57 I WILL APOLOGIZE TO CHAIRMAN AND LEGAL COUNSEL.
12:41:00 I DON'T BELIEVE I WAS DOING ANYTHING WRONG IN THE BACK OF
12:41:03 THE ROOM BECAUSE I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS PERTINENT TO THE
12:41:06 IMPACT FEE AND HOW IT INTERRELATES WITH AFFORDABLE
12:41:11 HOUSING, ET CETERA, VERY GERMANE TO OUR DISCUSSION, WHICH
12:41:14 I WILL GET INTO IN JANUARY.
12:41:16 HOWEVER, I APOLOGIZE TO MR. CHAIRMAN FOR NOT ABIDING BY
12:41:21 THE RULE THAT YOU HAD IN PLACE.
12:41:23 I'M SORRY.
12:41:24 IN THE SPIRIT OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON, I APOLOGIZE.
12:41:28 >>LUIS VIERA: DULY NOTED.
12:41:29 NOW WE MOVE BACK.
12:41:30 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
12:41:36 >>LACHONE DOCK: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
12:41:37 I'M AVAILABLE.
12:41:39 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:41:43 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS BEFORE THE
12:41:45 REPRESENTATIVE COMES UP, CAN YOU ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY THE
12:41:48 REQUEST THEY ARE ASKING FOR, TALKING ABOUT A MICROBREWERY
12:41:51 AND HOW NIECE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY HAVE NOW AND WHY
12:41:53 THAT'S CONSIDERED SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE?
12:41:58 >>LACHONE DOCK: THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE USE OF
12:42:01 THE MICROBREWERY TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THIS TRACT.
12:42:06 SO THE PDA HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS
12:42:11 APPROVED IN CERTAIN AREAS AS THESE TRACTS ARE LISTED.
12:42:16 AND THE WAY THAT IS DETERMINED, THE WAY WE DETERMINE WHAT
12:42:18 IS PLACED WHERE IN AN OVERALL PDA, BECAUSE IN A PDA WE
12:42:22 ARE GIVEN AN OVERALL BOUNDARY.
12:42:24 IT IS APPROVED.
12:42:25 AND THEN THOSE USES ARE LISTED WITHIN A TABLE, AND
12:42:29 DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENT, AND IF THEY COME IN FOR
12:42:31 PERMITTING THE APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT TO OUR OFFICE, TO
12:42:34 ZONING, THEIR DRAWN DOWN.
12:42:37 THEY HAVE 10,000 SQUARE FEET LEFT.
12:42:39 THEY ARE PROVIDING THIS MUCH PARKING.
12:42:41 THEY HAVE A MORE DETAILED PLAN AT THAT POINT.
12:42:43 IF FOR ANY REASON THEY GO TO PERMITTING, WHEN THEY GO TO
12:42:48 PERMITTING THEY APPLY FOR CERTAIN USE PERMITTING, THEY
12:42:50 LOOK FOR THE APPROVED PDA AND THEY WILL SEE THESE USES
12:42:54 ARE SPECIFIED BY TRACT.
12:42:55 AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A USE THAT'S LISTED IN A CERTAIN
12:42:57 TRACT, WOULD YOU NOT RECEIVE A PERMIT, IN THIS PARTICULAR
12:43:03 CASE, THE REQUEST IS TO HAVE THE MICROBREWERY USE IN
12:43:08 TRACT 3 INSTEAD OF IN TRACT 4, OR TO HAVE BOTH, BUT THE
12:43:13 REQUEST IS TO ADD MICROBREWERY AS AN ALLOWABLE USE IN
12:43:17 TRACT 3.
12:43:18 THIS PARTICULAR TABLE IS WHAT DETERMINES THE DEVELOPMENT
12:43:22 IN THAT PDA BOUNDARY.
12:43:24 AND THIS TABLE SPECIFIES WHERE THESE USES WOULD BE
12:43:26 ALLOWED.
12:43:27 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THEY ARE ALLOWED, MICROBREWERY, IN
12:43:31 TRACT 4.
12:43:32 I THINK THEY HAVE ONE THERE.
12:43:34 >>LACHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
12:43:36 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE APPLICANT CAN TELL US WHETHER IT'S
12:43:38 SWITCHING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER OR JUST ADDING ONE,
12:43:41 RIGHT?
12:43:41 >>LACHONE DOCK: WHAT HAPPENS IS, THIS IS THE ADDITION OF
12:43:46 A LAND USE, INTO AN AREA THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR
12:43:52 OFFICE, RETAIL AND RESTAURANT.
12:43:55 STAFF CANNOT APPROVE THAT.
12:43:56 IF SOMEONE CAME BEFORE YOU WITH A PDA ZONING AND WITHIN
12:43:59 THAT PD THEY ASKED FOR CERTAIN NUMBER OF USES, AND THEN
12:44:03 THEY ASKED FOR USE OUTSIDE OF WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THAT
12:44:07 PD, AND IF THEY COME TO US, STAFF CANNOT APPROVE IT
12:44:10 ADMINISTRATIVELY, THEY HAVE TO REZONE TO REQUEST THE
12:44:13 ADDITIONAL USE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.
12:44:16 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THESE FOOTNOTES SPECIFY IT.
12:44:21 THEY SPECIFY THESE TRADEOFFS.
12:44:24 WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED WITH TRACTS 1 AND 2.
12:44:27 NOW ONE ARGUMENT WAS MADE THAT ALL USES ARE ALLOWED, CG
12:44:32 AND CI IN TRACTS 1 AND 2.
12:44:34 BUT THIS TABLE WAS DONE IN 2018.
12:44:38 AND TRACT 3 THAT IS NOT LISTED.
12:44:41 IT COULD HAVE EASILY INCLUDED TRACT 3 AND 4.
12:44:45 AND IT DID NOT.
12:44:45 IT WAS SPECIFIED.
12:44:47 JUST LIKE IF YOU WANTED A DAYCARE IN TRACT 3, YOU CAN'T
12:44:50 HAVE IT.
12:44:51 GOES THE OTHER WAY ALSO.
12:44:53 >>BILL CARLSON: DID THE CURRENT APPLICANT HAVE CONTROL OF
12:44:56 THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN TRACT 3 WHEN IT WAS CHANGED
12:44:59 IN 2018 OR IS IT STILL --
12:45:02 >>LACHONE DOCK: THEY HAD AUTHORIZATION.
12:45:04 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:45:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO PROCEDURALLY, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH
12:45:15 THIS?
12:45:16 OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT IN A HEARING TO DECIDE ON THE
12:45:19 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, WE ARE JUST HERE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR
12:45:22 NOT IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE?
12:45:25 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:45:26 YES.
12:45:26 THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS GIVEN THE FACT AND
12:45:30 CIRCUMSTANCES, IS THIS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE?
12:45:32 AND I HAD PREVIOUSLY PASSED OUT A LIST OF THE CRITERIA
12:45:35 AND I HIGHLIGHTED THE TWO THAT THE STAFF FOUND THAT THIS
12:45:38 TRIGGERED OF THE SO IF IT TRIGGERED ANY OF THEM, BUT I
12:45:42 THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE USEFUL TO YOU TO SEE THE ONES
12:45:45 THAT STAFF WAS DIRECTLY LOOKING AT WHEN THEY FOUND THAT
12:45:48 THIS WAS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
12:45:50 IF YOU FIND IT'S KNOW IT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, THEN THIS
12:45:52 IS THE SORT OF THING THE SWITCHING USES BETWEEN TRACTS
12:45:55 THAT STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY,
12:45:58 THAT WILL CARRY THROUGH TO OTHER APPLICATIONS.
12:46:01 THE QUESTION TODAY IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE MICROBREWERY
12:46:04 IS A USE THAT YOU WOULD A MOVE THROUGH A ZONING.
12:46:07 THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS DOES THIS PARTICULAR
12:46:10 REQUEST TRIGGER A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE WHICH THEN PUTS IT
12:46:13 IN A FULL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REZONING NOTED TIMEWISE
12:46:18 PROCESS.
12:46:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR, AS A FOLLOW-UP.
12:46:21 SO THE CONCERN THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FROM THE LEGAL
12:46:25 DEPARTMENT IS A PRECEDENT REGARDLESS OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT
12:46:30 THIS PARTICULAR OWNER, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, OR EVEN
12:46:34 THIS PARTICULAR PD.
12:46:37 THE CONCERN IS PRECEDENT THEN?
12:46:41 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:46:41 I AM NOT SAYING THAT I HAVE A CONCERN.
12:46:44 I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO BE AWARE THAT THE CODE PROVISIONS
12:46:48 COULD PROBABLY BE INTERPRETED DIFFERENT WAYS.
12:46:50 THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LAWYER HERE MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT
12:46:52 STAFF IS INCORRECT, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT LEGAL ARGUMENT.
12:46:55 SO THERE'S DEFINITELY ROOM FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THIS
12:46:58 DOES NOT TRIGGER A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
12:47:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU HAVE CONCERN ABOUT PRECEDENT?
12:47:02 I WILL BE MORE DIRECT.
12:47:04 >>REBECCA KERT: I DON'T HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT PRECEDENT.
12:47:06 I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO BE AWARE THAT IF YOU INTERPRET
12:47:08 THIS ONE WAY, YOU ARE BASICALLY DIRECTING STAFF, THAT IS
12:47:12 HOW THEY SHOULD INTERPRET THAT SECTION.
12:47:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:47:18 MR. SHELBY.
12:47:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF I COULD FOLLOW UP TO MRS.
12:47:22 KERT'S COMMENTS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S THE FIRST TIME
12:47:24 THAT THIS COUNCIL IS COMING UP ON THE ISSUE OF A
12:47:27 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, AND THIS MIGHT BE ACTUALLY THE FIRST
12:47:30 TIME THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE
12:47:32 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW CRITERIA.
12:47:35 I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT AS A COUNCIL, THE STAFF RELIES ON
12:47:38 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW CRITERIA QUITE A BIT, BECAUSE
12:47:43 WHAT THIS DOES, BY CITY COUNCIL PASSING THIS 27-138 WHEN
12:47:48 IT DID AND PUTTING IT INTO EFFECT, IS SAYING STOW STAFF,
12:47:51 THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT WE WILL ALLOW YOU, SO IT
12:47:54 DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND CAN BE DONE
12:47:57 ADMINISTRATIVELY.
12:47:58 SO THAT WAY, WHEN YOUR CONSTITUENTS SAY HOW DID SOMETHING
12:48:03 LIKE THIS HAPPEN, SOMETIMES THE RESPONSE IS, IT WAS DONE
12:48:06 ADMINISTRATIVELY BECAUSE IT MET THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
12:48:10 CRITERIA.
12:48:12 SO TO ANSWER COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTION, FRANKLY,
12:48:18 THE PRACTICAL EFFECT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT A
12:48:20 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE IS TO ALLOW IT TO BE DONE
12:48:23 ADMINISTRATIVELY.
12:48:23 IF IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE AND THE CRITERIA, THE
12:48:29 DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IS UPHELD, THEN THE
12:48:31 REMEDY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL FOR A
12:48:35 CHANGE IN THE PLAN WHEN COUNCIL DOES SEE AMENDMENT TO
12:48:41 PDs.
12:48:42 SO THAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS.
12:48:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM TRYING TO CLARIFY
12:48:48 MY OWN THOUGHTS IN MY MIND.
12:48:50 SO WE NARROW THIS CHANGE TO FROM WHAT I HEAR QUICKLY,
12:48:56 THIS IS AN OPERATION THAT'S ALREADY OPERATING AND SELLING
12:48:59 ALCOHOL.
12:48:59 AM I CORRECT?
12:49:00 >> CORRECT.
12:49:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND ATTACHED TO IT PROPERTY THAT
12:49:07 ENTITY OWNS, CORRECT?
12:49:08 >>LACHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
12:49:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT BE THEY WANT TO DO IS ATTACH IT
12:49:11 TO THE PROPERTY THAT SELLS ALCOHOL TO MANUFACTURE ALCOHOL
12:49:14 LIKE THEY ARE MANUFACTURING FOOD.
12:49:15 AM I CORRECT?
12:49:16 >>LACHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
12:49:17 ON A PROPERTY THAT IS ZONED PDA.
12:49:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SOUND LIKE THE GUY IN WASHINGTON.
12:49:22 SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT IT CAN BE DONE
12:49:28 WITHOUT UNRAVELING THINGS SO IT WILL NOT BE LIKE YOU HAVE
12:49:31 AN APARTMENT BUILDING, WHAT THEY DID ON THE CORNER, NOW I
12:49:34 WANT IT HERE.
12:49:35 SO IF YOU NARROW THE TABLE YOU HAVE TO GET THE SUIT THAT
12:49:41 FITS AND NOT EVERYONE WEARS THE SUIT.
12:49:44 CORRECT?
12:49:45 >>LACHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
12:49:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM THE GUY FROM WASHINGTON.
12:49:49 THANK YOU.
12:49:50 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ON THE ISSUE OF -- ON THE ISSUE OF
12:49:53 PRECEDENT, WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE RULES, SO HOW DOES IT
12:49:58 SET A PRECEDENT?
12:49:59 ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF WE SAY THAT THIS DESIGNATION IN
12:50:05 THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE A MICROBREWERY,
12:50:08 THEN ANY PROPERTY IN THE CITY THAT HAS THAT DESIGNATION
12:50:11 CAN BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A MICROBREWERY?
12:50:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU SAY MY POSITION WOULD BE IT WAS
12:50:18 SETTING A PRECEDENT?
12:50:21 >>BILL CARLSON: WELL, THE ISSUE OF PRECEDENT CAME UP OVER
12:50:22 HERE AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RULES.
12:50:24 BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE WOULD BE MAKING A SUBSTANTIVE
12:50:31 CHANGE GOING FORWARD THEN IT WOULD BE TO CHANGE THE
12:50:33 RULES.
12:50:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE THE
12:50:36 RULES.
12:50:36 WOULD BE TO ALLOW THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE TO BE HANDLED
12:50:39 ADMINISTRATIVELY, WHICH IS WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE
12:50:41 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE CRITERIA IS.
12:50:44 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT IF WE ALLOW IN THIS PARTICULAR
12:50:46 INSTANCE FOR THESE TO HAPPEN, DOES THAT SET A LEGAL
12:50:49 PRECEDENCE THAT COULD BE USED IN SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES
12:50:54 THROUGHOUT THE CITY?
12:50:55 COULD ANOTHER BUILDING WITH A DESIGNATION OF NUMBER 3
12:50:58 SUDDENLY SAY, WELL, WE ARE ENTITLED TO HAVE A
12:51:00 MICROBREWERY, TOO?
12:51:02 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:51:07 EVERY CASE IS FACT SPECIFIC.
12:51:09 SO IF THERE ARE FACTS IN THIS CASE THAT YOU FEEL A USE IN
12:51:15 A LISTED TRACT CAN BE MOVED TO ANOTHER TRACT BASED UPON
12:51:18 SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN THIS CASE, THEN IT WOULD APPLY
12:51:22 UNIVERSALLY.
12:51:23 BUT I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT IF YOU DECIDE YOU CAN
12:51:27 JUST MOVE A USE IN ONE TRACT TO A USE IN ANOTHER TRACT
12:51:32 WITHOUT THE PD PLAN SAYING YOU CAN DO THAT, GENERALLY,
12:51:36 THEN THAT IS THE MESSAGE THAT STAFF 8 TAKE, BUT YOU
12:51:38 INTERPRET THIS TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
12:51:40 I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
12:51:42 BUT DEFINITELY EVERY CASE IS FACT SPECIFIC, AND JUST WHEN
12:51:45 YOU ARE CONSIDERING THIS, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS
12:51:47 LANGUAGE VERY CAREFULLY AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT UNDER
12:51:51 THESE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU FEEL THAT IT'S CREATED A
12:51:53 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE OR NOT, AND IF YOU FEEL THAT IT
12:51:56 DOESN'T CREATE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, YOU ARE PROBABLY
12:51:58 WELL SERVED IN YOUR MOTION TO EXPLAIN WHY IN THIS
12:52:02 PARTICULAR CASE IT DOES NOT.
12:52:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I WAS NOT IN THE
12:52:18 ROOM IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS.
12:52:20 IS THIS ADDING ANOTHER BREWERY AREA OR SWAPPING?
12:52:24 >>LACHONE DOCK: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THIS IS THE AREA
12:52:26 THAT'S CURRENTLY IS TRACT 4 WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO
12:52:32 HAVE THE MICROBREWERY AND THEY WANT TO MOVE THE TRACT.
12:52:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S MY QUESTION.
12:52:38 ARE WE ADDING A SECOND MIKE ROB BREWERY AREA?
12:52:42 ARE WE EXPANDING IT OR JUST MOVING IT?
12:52:44 >>LACHONE DOCK: WELL, THE APPLICANT -- HE CAN STATE
12:52:49 WHETHER HE'S EXPANDING IT OR MOVING IT.
12:52:52 BUT THE ISSUE FOR ZONING WAS WHETHER IT WAS ALLOWED ON
12:52:56 THAT SITE.
12:53:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORT OF TRYING TO LOOK AT IMPACT
12:53:02 VERSUS USE.
12:53:03 >>LACHONE DOCK: SURE, SURE.
12:53:04 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY.
12:53:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL WANTING TO KNOW
12:53:09 THE SUBSTANCE OF EFFECT BUT REALLY IN THIS CASE THIS
12:53:12 REVIEW IS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE.
12:53:14 AND THE KEY THEN, NORMALLY WHEN YOU HAVE PDs AT NIGHT
12:53:23 AND YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN, IT HAS CERTAIN USES ON IT, AND
12:53:27 THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THAT
12:53:30 THOSE ARE LIMITED TO THOSE USES.
12:53:32 IN THIS CASE, WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU HAVE A PETITIONER WHO
12:53:38 IS SAYING THAT IN THIS PDA THE USE OF ONE PARCEL SHOULD
12:53:42 APPLY TO A PARCEL THAT DOES NOT PRESENTLY HAVE THAT USE,
12:53:45 AND IS THAT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE?
12:53:47 AM I SUMMARIZING THIS RIGHT?
12:53:51 AND THAT ULTIMATELY, PROCEDURALLY, IS THAT A SUBSTANTIAL
12:53:54 CHANGE?
12:53:55 SO THE QUESTION TO YOURSELF IS, DOES IT APPLY TO THIS
12:53:58 PARTICULAR CRITERIA BASED UPON THEIR STAFF REVIEW, DID
12:54:04 THEY ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR CODE IN DETERMINING
12:54:09 WHETHER IT WAS OR NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE?
12:54:13 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:54:13 >>LACHONE DOCK: IF I MAY, AS MENTIONED, ONCE WE HAVE AN
12:54:17 APPROVAL OF A PD OR PDA THAT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL, THERE
12:54:21 ARE MANY REQUESTS MADE OF STAFF TO CHANGE VARIOUS USES,
12:54:24 TO CHANGE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS.
12:54:27 WHAT WE USE TO DETERMINE WHAT WOULD MAKE THAT PROPERTY
12:54:31 ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL FOR ANOTHER
12:54:34 APPROVAL, ANOTHER PD APPROVAL, ANOTHER REZONING, IS THE
12:54:38 CHANGE -- THE CRITERIA THAT'S LISTED UNDER 27-138.
12:54:45 EVERY ITEM THAT'S LISTED, A THROUGH N, WE LOOK AT, AND WE
12:54:48 SEE DID THEY TRIP THE THRESHOLD?
12:54:53 SO UNDER C, THERE'S A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH CONDITIONS
12:54:55 OF STIPULATIONS AUTHORIZED IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
12:54:59 THAT WAS ONE CONDITION THAT STAFF FELT WAS NOT MET.
12:55:03 THE OTHER IS G, THERE'S A MODIFICATION IN THE ORIGINAL
12:55:05 DESIGN CONCEPT SUCH AS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE IN
12:55:08 RELATIONSHIP AMONG LAND USES, THE ADDITION OF A LAND USE
12:55:12 CATEGORY NOT APPROVED UNDER THE ORIGINAL PLAN, WHICH IS
12:55:15 WHAT IS REQUESTED, AND SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE IN TRAFFIC
12:55:20 PATTERN OR POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS OR 10% BASED UPON
12:55:28 PRESUBMITTED TRAFFIC CHANGE FIGURES.
12:55:31 SO EITHER WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
12:55:37 AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN STAFF ADVICE IT IS APPLICANT IT
12:55:40 IS SUBSTANTIAL.
12:55:41 AND THEY WOULD EITHER CHANGE THE PLAN AT THAT POINT OR
12:55:44 THEY DECIDE TO COME BACK TO REZONE.
12:55:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:55:48 NOW LET'S GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM OUR PETITIONER.
12:55:52 >> HELLO.
12:55:59 JEFF SHANNON HERE ON BEHALF OF COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP,
12:56:03 2025 EAST 7TH.
12:56:07 I APOLOGIZE FOR MY PRESENTATION BECAUSE I AM NOT AS
12:56:12 PASSIONATE AS RICHARD GONZMART WHO HAD TO LEAVE BEFORE
12:56:15 THIS AGENDA ITEM OR MY FORMER PARTNER WHO WOULD BE FAR
12:56:18 MORE ELOQUENT, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST.
12:56:20 WHAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT IS ONE WORD, AND THE
12:56:23 WORD IS MICROBREWERY.
12:56:24 AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE HOW WE GOT
12:56:28 HERE.
12:56:28 RICHARD GONZMART RESPONDED TO AN RFP IN 2012.
12:56:33 HE WAS SUCCESSFUL IN THAT ENDEAVOR.
12:56:35 AND STARTED A RESTAURANT IN THE HEIGHTS AREA OF TAMPA IN
12:56:42 WHICH THERE WAS VERY LITTLE AT THE TIME, AND ALSO AT THE
12:56:48 TIME, AND THAT WAS ON A LONG-TERM LEASE BASIS FROM THE
12:56:52 CITY OF TAMPA.
12:56:52 ALSO AT THAT TIME HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEASE
12:56:55 ADDITIONAL SPACE TO THE NORTH FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:56:57 WHICH WAS KNOWN AFFECTIONATELY AS I THINK THE CABLE TV
12:57:01 BUILDING AND FOR MANY YEARS PROVIDED THE TV SERVICES FOR
12:57:05 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:57:06 THAT LEASE WAS ALSO DONE AND ULTIMATELY ULELE BOUGHT
12:57:13 THESE PROPERTIES.
12:57:13 ULELE HAS NOW BEEN OPEN SINCE 2014.
12:57:17 AS PART OF ITS OPERATION, IT HAS A BREWERY.
12:57:20 THIS MICROBREWERY IS UNFORTUNATELY THE ONE REFERENCE
12:57:23 WITHIN THE CODE THAT REFERENCES THAT MANUFACTURING OF
12:57:27 BEER.
12:57:28 IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN REALLY WHAT HAPPENS AT
12:57:30 ULELE.
12:57:31 IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE BEEN THERE, ULELE PRODUCES BEER FOR
12:57:36 SALE AT ULELE.
12:57:38 SO THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT HAS A NUMBER OF FOLKS WITH A
12:57:43 LOT OF IDEAS.
12:57:44 SO THE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN STEMMING WITH RESPECT TO THE
12:57:47 CABLE BUILDING HAVE BEEN MADE, AND ONE OF THOSE IS TO,
12:57:50 BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED SPACE AT ULELE, TO EXPAND THE
12:57:54 RESTAURANT, PROVIDE FOR PRIVATE MEETING ROOMS, SOME MORE
12:57:56 SPECIAL EVENT SPACE AND THINGS, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT,
12:57:59 IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN TO THE BREWERY, THE FACILITIES FOR
12:58:04 BREWING BEER ARE QUITE LARGE.
12:58:06 SO THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE WITH THE CLOSING ON THE CABLE TV
12:58:10 BUILDING TO MOVE SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT AND EXPAND IT
12:58:12 NORTH, AND IF YOU CAN AGAIN REFER TO THE MAP, FROM TRACT
12:58:19 4 TO TRACT 3.
12:58:21 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF
12:58:23 POINTS THAT COUNCIL WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH MS. DOCK IS
12:58:27 THAT THIS IS NOT A NEW MICROBREWERY, THIS IS NOT A NEW
12:58:30 CONCEPT, THIS IS PART OF THE ULELE OPERATION THAT WOULD
12:58:33 JUST BE EXPANDED INTO THAT BUILDING.
12:58:38 WITH ALL OF THAT IN MIND, IN MAY, WE FILED AN APPLICATION
12:58:43 FOR A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO TERMINATION THINKING THIS
12:58:48 WOULD PROBABLY BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
12:58:50 AS YOU CAN TELL FROM YOUR REVIEW OF THIS CHART, THE
12:58:53 REZONING WAS JUST COMPLETED AT THE END OF 2018.
12:58:58 AS YOU ALSO KNOW, I ASSUME, WE ARE PART OF THE HEIGHTS
12:59:01 PDA, WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY A RATHER LARGE PROPERTY OWNER
12:59:05 AT THE HEIGHTS.
12:59:07 THEY CONTROL ALL OF TRACTS 1 AND 2 WHICH AS YOU CAN TELL
12:59:11 KIND OF DOMINATE THE PROJECT.
12:59:14 AT THE TIME WE WERE ASKED, DO YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN
12:59:16 THIS REZONING?
12:59:17 WE'LL ALLOW YOU TO PARTICIPATE KIND OF IN A LIMITED
12:59:21 BASIS.
12:59:21 WE DID JUST IN ORDER TO CLARIFY CERTAIN USES AND CERTAIN
12:59:25 ENTITLEMENTS TO ARE BOTH TRACTS 4 AND 3.
12:59:29 AT THE TIME THE EXPANSION OF ULELE'S BREWERY WAS NOT
12:59:33 CONTEMPLATED BUT THOSE IDEAS, PEOPLE AT THE COLUMBIA CAME
12:59:36 UP WITH THESE IDEAS SINCE THEN, SO WE FILED THIS
12:59:38 APPLICATION.
12:59:39 IN AUGUST WE WERE INFORMED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
12:59:42 DISAGREED WITH OUR CONCEPT THAT THIS WAS A NONSUBSTANTIAL
12:59:45 CHANGE, THE CHANGE OF ONE WORD IN THE USES THAT ARE
12:59:48 LISTED UNDER TRACT 3, AND ADDING A WORD THAT IN FACT WAS
12:59:53 PROVIDED AS A USE IN TRACT 4, MICROBREWERY.
12:59:57 THE REASONS FOR THAT HAVE BEEN STATED MANY TIMES TODAY
13:00:01 ALREADY.
13:00:02 OF ALL OF THE CRITERIA, A THROUGH N, THE ZONING
13:00:09 ADMINISTRATOR BELIEVED THAT ULELE MET ALL OF THOSE
13:00:12 CRITERIA EXCEPT THOSE IDENTIFIED UNDER C AND G.
13:00:16 C SPEAKS TO -- IT SAYS THERE'S A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH
13:00:23 CONDITIONS OR STIPULATIONS AUTHORIZED IN THE ORIGINAL
13:00:25 APPROVAL.
13:00:26 CURRENTLY, ULELE DOESN'T PERCEIVE THAT THERE'S A
13:00:30 VIOLATION OF THAT.
13:00:31 THERE IS NO MICROBREWERY THAT IS CURRENTLY OCCURRING IN
13:00:33 TRACT 3.
13:00:34 IT IS ONLY IN TRACT 4.
13:00:36 SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A CURRENT VIOLATION OF C.
13:00:40 WITH RESPECT TO G, BECAUSE OF WHAT I DESCRIBED JUST AS AN
13:00:45 EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING BREWERY FACILITIES, THERE IS
13:00:49 NOT AN INCREASE OF INTENSITY, INCREASE OF DENSITY,
13:00:52 INCREASE OF PARKING, AN INCREASE OF TRIPS.
13:00:55 NONE OF THAT IS REALLY A BY-PRODUCT OF THIS REQUESTED
13:01:01 CHANGE.
13:01:04 AND IN ADDITION, I THINK THERE WAS ALSO A MENTION OF THE
13:01:07 FACT THAT THERE WAS A TRADE-OFF PROVIDED UNDER THE MOST
13:01:10 RECENT 2018 ZONING BETWEEN TRACTS 1 AND 2.
13:01:14 THAT TRADE-OFF WAS AWARDED TO THE LARGE PROPERTY OWNER AT
13:01:17 THE HEIGHTS WHO HAD THEIR GENERAL ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS
13:01:22 AND WANTED TO MIX AND MATCHES AMONGST THEIR USES.
13:01:26 THAT TRADE-OFF WAS NOT PERMITTED BETWEEN 3 AND 4 BECAUSE
13:01:30 IT WAS THOUGHT AT THE TIME, I MEAN, ORIGINALLY WE JUST
13:01:33 WENT BACK, AND IN FACT I WORKED QUITE A BIT WITH CITY
13:01:36 STAFF AND WITH REBECCA TO CLARIFY THE USES IN TRACTS 3
13:01:40 AND 4 BECAUSE AT THE TIME I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE EVEN
13:01:43 COMMENSURATE WITH THE USES THAT WERE TAKING PLACE OUT
13:01:45 THERE.
13:01:45 SO WE JUST HASTILY TRIED TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE.
13:01:49 SO REALLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WE JUST DON'T
13:01:55 THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR AN ENTIRE REZONING
13:01:59 PROCEDURE TO CHANGE THIS ONE WORD WHEN THAT MICROBREWERY
13:02:08 USE IS AVAILABLE TO PROBABLY 90% OF THE PROJECT ALREADY,
13:02:09 ALL OF TRACT 1, ALL OF TRACT 2, ALL OF TRACT 4. TRACT 5,
13:02:14 NO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WATERWORKS PARK, SO THE ONLY TRACT
13:02:17 THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT USE IS TRACT 3 OF THIS ENTIRE
13:02:19 PROJECT.
13:02:24 I HOPE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HEIGHTS PROPERTY
13:02:29 OWNER HERE TODAY.
13:02:30 HE COULD NOT BE HERE.
13:02:31 BUT THEN HE SENT AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY THAT HE NOW OPPOSES
13:02:36 OUR REQUEST FOR THIS CHANGE BEING NONSUBSTANTIAL.
13:02:41 AND ALTHOUGH WHEN WE FILED THE APPLICATION AND SENT ALONG
13:02:45 NOTICES, THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION ENTERED AT THE TIME.
13:02:48 BUT SOMEHOW WHEN WE FILED THIS REQUEST OR PETITION FOR
13:02:54 REVIEW, NOW HE HAS ELECTED YESTERDAY, THEIR GROUP HAS
13:02:59 ELECTED TO OPPOSE OF THE AND LET ME JUST ADDRESS THEIR
13:03:01 COMMENTS.
13:03:02 FIRST THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REFERENCE TO C AND G,
13:03:07 WHICH I TALKED ABOUT, BUT THEY ALSO MENTIONED A COUPLE
13:03:10 OTHER POINTS.
13:03:11 THEY SAID THEY HAD CONCERN ABOUT A MICROBREWERY BEING
13:03:14 WITHIN 30 FEET OF THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE.
13:03:16 AND CURRENTLY, WE DID A MEASUREMENT.
13:03:20 THE MICROBREWERY FOR ULELE IS WITHIN 30 FEET THEIR
13:03:23 CORPORATE OFFICE ALREADY.
13:03:24 THIS AS YOU CAN TELL IS IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF TRACT
13:03:29 4 AND SIMPLY WOULD BE EXPANDED IN THE DESIGN INTO SOME
13:03:34 PORTION OF THIS TRACT 3, WHICH IS ALSO WITHIN 30 FEET OF
13:03:38 THE CORPORATE OFFICE.
13:03:41 AND I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE
13:03:43 THAT HE REFERENCED.
13:03:52 NO, JUST THE FACT THAT I THINK HE WAS STRESSING THE POINT
13:03:56 THAT THIS MIGHT PROMPT AN INCREASE TO TRIPS AND PARKING
13:03:59 AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE NOW CRITICAL IN THE HEIGHTS
13:04:01 AREA, WHICH WE FIRMLY BELIEVE WILL NOT BE THE CASE.
13:04:06 SO FINALLY, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE EVER'S TIME BECAUSE I
13:04:09 KNOW EVERYBODY IS LATE AND EVERYBODY IS HUNGRY, THE
13:04:12 REZONING PROCESS FOR JUST CHANGING THIS ONE WORD WE FEEL
13:04:16 IS UNNECESSARY, IT'S A WASTE OF STAFF'S TIME, LEGAL AND
13:04:19 ZONING, IT'S A WASTE OF THE PETITIONER'S TIME, WHEN I
13:04:24 KNOW YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT PRECEDENT, BUT WHAT THIS
13:04:26 REALLY IS, IT'S PROCEDURAL AND IT'S THE LATITUDE THAT
13:04:31 STAFF HAS GIVEN THOSE CRITERIA TO MAKE THIS
13:04:33 DETERMINATION.
13:04:40 WHEN I ALSO -- I WANT TO MENTION ONE OTHER THING.
13:04:43 WHEN THE MICROBREWERY USE WAS PERMITTED BY COUNCIL FOR
13:04:47 MOST OF THE PROJECT, PROBABLY 90% OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS
13:04:51 CERTAINLY DONE THROUGH AN ENTIRE REZONING PROCESS IN
13:04:53 2018.
13:04:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:04:58 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT.
13:04:58 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:04:59 THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:05:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO LOOKING AT THIS OVERALL, TRACTS 1
13:05:04 THROUGH 4 --
13:05:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY, MR.
13:05:07 MANISCALCO.
13:05:08 POINT OF ORDER.
13:05:08 JUST AS RELATED TO THE E-MAIL FROM THE NEIGHBOR, IT MADE
13:05:14 ITS WAY INTO MY BOOK BUT MR. SHELBY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO
13:05:17 SPEAK TO THE FACT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S.
13:05:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, I SEE AN E-MAIL SENT TO
13:05:24 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, JUST HANDED ME THIS, FROM SOHO
13:05:30 CAPITAL.COM.
13:05:35 IT WAS LIKE IT WAS SENT TO ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
13:05:37 DIRECTLY.
13:05:38 THERE IS NO COPY TO ME, NOR IS THERE A COPY TO THE CLERK.
13:05:43 IS THE AWARE OF THIS E-MAIL?
13:05:46 OKAY.
13:05:46 IT'S DATED WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 18th AT 11:48 A.M.
13:05:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD
13:05:54 A COPY.
13:05:55 >>LUIS VIERA: HAS EVERYONE --
13:05:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE.
13:06:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S BEEN REFERENCED BY THE PETITIONER.
13:06:02 AND IF IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED, IT NEEDS TO BE ACCEPTED
13:06:05 INTO THE RECORD AS AN EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, AND ALSO
13:06:11 PLACED INTO THE FILE.
13:06:12 SO HOW SHALL I PROCEED?
13:06:15 SHALL I MAKE COPIES OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S AND PUT IT
13:06:18 INTO THE RECORD THAT WAY?
13:06:21 >> I HAVE GOT ONE.
13:06:22 >>LUIS VIERA: DOES ANYBODY WISH TO HAVE A COPY THAT'S ON
13:06:24 COUNCIL RIGHT NOW?
13:06:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL THAT BEING THE CASE, COUNCIL
13:06:28 MEMBERS --
13:06:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST READ IT.
13:06:32 >>LUIS VIERA: AND.
13:06:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THIS MAKES
13:06:36 IT'S WAY INTO THE RECORD CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE
13:06:38 AND FILE?
13:06:39 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:06:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:06:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:06:45 ANY OPPOSED?
13:06:46 THANK YOU.
13:06:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO ON THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE SHOWN
13:06:50 THAT WAS UPDATED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WATERWORKS PARK,
13:06:54 THERE'S ALCOHOL BEING SERVED FROM THE RESTAURANTS THAT
13:06:58 ARE ON PALM AVENUE WHERE THE PEARL APARTMENTS ARE, ALL OF
13:07:02 THE ARMATURE WORKS, YOU HAVE ALCOHOL ALREADY BEING SOLD
13:07:05 AT THE ULELE RESTAURANT, YOU HAVE A STAND-ALONE LOCATION
13:07:08 ALONG THE RIVERWALK, THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER BAR, AND THE
13:07:13 PERSON THAT IS OPPOSING, THAT SENT THAT LETTER THAT YOU
13:07:16 REFERENCED, IS DISCUSSING ISSUES WITH POSSIBLY INCREASE
13:07:20 IN PARKING AND TRIPS AND WHATNOT.
13:07:22 AS FAR AS I KNOW IT, OR WHAT I AM SEEING ON THIS MAP IS,
13:07:26 THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PARKING, ULELE HAS A
13:07:29 SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PARKING, I THINK THEY HAVE THEIR
13:07:32 OWN PRIVATE PROPERTIES OR LOTS THAT THEY LEASE.
13:07:34 WHAT IS THE ISSUE?
13:07:35 THE RESTAURANT IS EXPANDING TO A BUILDING THAT IS VACANT
13:07:39 AND JUST MOVING THEIR OPERATIONS TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE
13:07:41 GUESTS, BUT THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PARKING.
13:07:45 I MEAN, THIS JUST SEEMS PRETTY CUT AND DRIED FOR THE
13:07:51 OPPOSITION CONSIDERING IF IT'S ZONED PARTY DISTRICT UP
13:07:55 THERE.
13:07:55 >>LACHONE DOCK: YES, SIR.
13:07:58 THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS OF CONCERN.
13:08:01 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY -- FOR COUNCIL TO KEEP IN MIND, IT'S
13:08:06 NOT THE FACT THAT THE MICROBREWERY REQUIRES A CERTAIN
13:08:09 AMOUNT OF PARKING BUT THIS WOULD BE AN INTENSITY IN USE
13:08:11 AND INCREASE IN INTENSITY OF WHAT'S ALLOWED.
13:08:14 IT IS A MATTER OF THAT SPECIFIC USE WAS NOT APPROVED IN
13:08:19 THE PD.
13:08:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
13:08:23 >>LACHONE DOCK: FOR THAT TRACT OF LAND.
13:08:25 SPECIFIC PD --
13:08:26 >>> BUT THERE'S AN EXISTING MICROBREWERY WITHIN THE
13:08:32 BUILDING SO IT'S BASICALLY SHIFTING IT OVER AND COMING
13:08:35 INTO COMPLIANCE AS A, QUOTE, AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING AND
13:08:39 I MEAN THERE'S REALLY NOTHING SUPER COMPLICATED ABOUT
13:08:41 THIS.
13:08:45 IT'S JUST MOVING THE BEER MAKING EQUIPMENT FROM HERE TO
13:08:47 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL.
13:08:48 >>LACHONE DOCK: AND JUST TO PUT ON THE RECORD, THE
13:08:52 ENTIRE BOUNDARY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARTS OF TRACT 1 IS
13:08:58 APPROVED FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ZONE.
13:09:00 SO REZONED, AND THERE IS AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.
13:09:03 BUT WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY WAS NOT THE ALCOHOL ZONE.
13:09:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:09:07 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
13:09:09 THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:09:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I REMEMBER GOING BACK, THE BREWERY
13:09:14 THAT YOU HAVE NOW, MICROBREWERY, IT WAS SOLD AS YOU CAN
13:09:19 GET ULELE WATER. THE SPRING. ARE YOU USING THAT WATER
13:09:21 NOW OR NOT?
13:09:23 >> NOT YET.
13:09:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T BLAME YOU.
13:09:26 CITY WATER IS VERY GOOD.
13:09:28 I AM NOT TELLING YOU NOT TO USE THAT.
13:09:30 IT'S THERE AND AVAILABLE AND AT REASONABLE COST.
13:09:32 WHAT I AM THINKING ABOUT IS ALONG WITH WHAT MR.
13:09:35 MANISCALCO WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, THIS AREA HAS CHANGED SO
13:09:38 MANY TIMES.
13:09:39 AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
13:09:41 BUT IT ONCE IT WAS MULTI-RESIDENTIAL.
13:09:47 IN FACT THE LAST PIECE OF PROPERTY PURCHASED, THE ONE ON
13:09:49 THE CORNER OF PALM AND TAMPA STREET, USED TO BE THE FIRST
13:09:53 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY'S PROPERTY.
13:09:56 CICERO WAS HIS NAME.
13:09:59 AND HE WOULD CALL ME ONCE IN A WHILE AFTER MANY YEARS, I
13:10:01 STOPPED BY, AND HE WOULD HAVE A VISION.
13:10:04 HE WANTED TO BUILD A BIG TOWER.
13:10:06 HE HAD ABOUT AN ACRE AND HE HAD A COUPLE OF ACRES BEHIND
13:10:09 HIM.
13:10:09 AND HE WANTED -- BECAUSE IT WAS THE HIGHEST POINT LOOKING
13:10:12 DOWN AT THE CITY.
13:10:13 AND HE WAS RIGHT.
13:10:16 HE JUST DIDN'T LIVE LONG ENOUGH.
13:10:18 BUT HE WAS RIGHT.
13:10:19 AND HE HAD THE VISION FROM DAY ONE.
13:10:20 SO HE WAS A VISIONARY.
13:10:22 AND ALREADY HAVE A BREWERY AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE
13:10:29 PARKING, NOT GOING TO CREATE TRAFFIC, BUT I GUESS MORE
13:10:34 QUALITY, SUPPLY THE NEEDS OF THE RESTAURANT, MAYBE
13:10:38 OTHERS.
13:10:38 YOU DON'T KNOW.
13:10:40 WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
13:10:48 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:10:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT BRINGS ME TO THIS.
13:10:52 ON TRACT 3, OFFICE, RETAIL AND RESTAURANT.
13:10:58 IF I READ THAT CORRECTLY.
13:11:00 >>LACHONE DOCK: COUNCILMAN, YOU ARE CORRECT.
13:11:02 THIS TABLE DETERMINES THE ALLOWABLE USES IN EACH TRACT.
13:11:07 SO FOR TRACT 3, THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ARE OFFICE,
13:11:11 RETAIL AND RESTAURANT.
13:11:14 ALL THREE ARE AVAILABLE.
13:11:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH THE CHANGE IN THE MICROBREWERY, YOU
13:11:20 SAID THERE IS SALE THROUGH THE RESTAURANT OF THE PRODUCTS
13:11:23 OF THE MICROBREWERY.
13:11:25 THAT SOUND LIKE RETAIL TO ME.
13:11:27 WILL THERE BE ANY TYPE OF FOOD EATEN ALONG WITH THIS
13:11:32 MICROBREWERY SITE, MEANING, IS IT INTERCHANGEABLE THAT
13:11:35 FOOD COULD BE BROUGHT OVER TO THE MICROBREWERY AND VICE
13:11:39 VERSA, THE PRODUCTS OF THE MICROBREWERY BROUGHT OVER TO
13:11:43 THE RESTAURANT?
13:11:44 >> YES.
13:11:45 I MEAN, BEING A LEGAL COUNSEL, NOT THE DESIGN TEAM, I
13:11:48 DON'T WANT TO JUMP AHEAD OF MYSELF ON BEHALF OF THE
13:11:51 COMPANY BUT YES, IT'S A RATHER LARGE BUILDING WITH SOME
13:11:53 NEAT ATTRIBUTES, AND I THINK THERE'S A FOOD CONCEPT THAT
13:11:56 WOULD BE THERE AS WELL AS HAVING THE MICROBREWERY.
13:11:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO THAT ALSO MEETS THE CRITERIA OF THE
13:12:03 RESTAURANT.
13:12:04 >> YES.
13:12:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
13:12:06 AND WHEN WE OPEN QUASI-JUDICIALS, DID WE SWEAR EVERYONE
13:12:12 IN?
13:12:13 MY BAD.
13:12:14 IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK OR UNFORTUNATELY HAVE SPOKEN, ON
13:12:17 ANY QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS, PLEASE STAND IF YOU ARE ABLE
13:12:19 TO DO SO, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE PREPARED TO BE
13:12:22 SWORN IN.
13:12:23 LET'S MAKE IT RETROACTIVE.
13:12:24 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
13:12:27 >>LUIS VIERA: MY BAD.
13:12:30 THANK YOU.
13:12:31 CONTINUE, SIR.
13:12:33 ANYTHING?
13:12:36 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
13:12:39 >>LUIS VIERA: FROM COUNCIL?
13:12:40 IS ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 64?
13:12:45 I'M SORRY, 61.
13:12:47 THANK YOU, SIR.
13:12:47 61.
13:12:48 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
13:12:50 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:12:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:12:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:12:54 ANY OPPOSED?
13:12:55 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS?
13:12:56 WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
13:12:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL TRY.
13:13:03 MR. CHAIRMAN, I FIND THAT THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIAL
13:13:05 CHANGE.
13:13:05 I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ADMINISTRATOR'S FINDING THAT THE
13:13:08 REQUEST TO MODIFY REZONING FILE BEFORE US NUMBER 61, FEEL
13:13:16 E-2019-8-CHAPTER 27, THE ADDRESS OF THE LOCATION IS 1810
13:13:23 NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE, AND ULELE, INC IS THE ONE WHO
13:13:29 FILED IT, THAT THEIR REQUEST TO MODIFY REZONING IS A
13:13:35 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE BECAUSE PETITIONER DEMONSTRATED -- AM
13:13:39 I READING THE WRONG ONE?
13:13:43 I'M READING THE BOTTOM ONE.
13:13:44 IT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT.
13:13:53 ALL RIGHT, I'LL CONTINUE.
13:13:54 PETITIONER HAS MET THE DEMONSTRATION THAT THE PETITIONER
13:13:57 DID NOT MEET ONE OF THE CRITERIA IN 27-138.
13:14:02 >> SECOND.
13:14:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
13:14:05 YES, SIR?
13:14:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AGREE WITH MR. MIRANDA.
13:14:08 I THINK THAT THE FACTS LAID OUT BY THE PETITIONER AND
13:14:15 INDICATE THIS IS A DE MINIMIS CHANGE.
13:14:20 I THINK THAT COMMON SENSE CAN PREVAIL AND THAT WE CAN
13:14:26 ALLOW THE STAFF TO USE THAT COMMON SENSE IN REVIEWING
13:14:32 THIS UNDER THE EXISTING PDA.
13:14:34 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
13:14:35 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.
13:14:36 ANYONE ELSE?
13:14:37 YES, SIR.
13:14:39 >>BILL CARLSON: MRS. KERT, IF YOU COULD TELL US, IT SAYS
13:14:42 HERE ANY ADDITIONAL FACTS.
13:14:44 DO WE NEED TO PROVIDE ANY SPECIFIC EVIDENCE OR IS THE
13:14:47 MOTION OKAY THE WAY IT IS?
13:14:49 >>REBECCA KERT: ANY FACTS THAT YOU HEARD FROM THIS CASE
13:14:51 THAT MAKE YOU FEEL THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE STATE
13:14:55 STATUTE REQUIRES THAT YOU INCLUDE FINDINGS WITH YOUR
13:14:59 MOTIONS NOW.
13:15:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
13:15:04 I WILL TRY TO DO THIS ALSO.
13:15:05 THAT THE CHANGE IS NOT IN ANY WAY CHANGING THE AESTHETICS
13:15:11 OF THE PROPERTY, THAT IT IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT THEY
13:15:14 ARE DOING NOW, THEY ALREADY HAVE A MICROBREWERY, THAT
13:15:17 THEY HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT, IT'S
13:15:20 IN THEIR PROPERTY, WITHIN THAT SECTION, WAS IT CALLED
13:15:26 TRACT 3, AND DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE PATTERN OF
13:15:30 TRAFFIC OR DEMANDS OF ANY OTHER CITY OPERATIONAL COSTS TO
13:15:36 THAT POINT.
13:15:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THOSE REASONS ARE FINE WITH ME, MR.
13:15:40 CHAIR.
13:15:40 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
13:15:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:15:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:15:44 ANY OPPOSED?
13:15:46 OKAY.
13:15:48 NEXT WE HAVE TWO MORE REVIEW HEARINGS, AND I KNOW WE HAVE
13:15:51 TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND FOR HOLIDAY GREETINGS.
13:15:58 PERSONALLY, GENTLEMEN, I AM FINE WITH GOING FORWARD, BUT
13:16:03 DOES ANYBODY NEED TO BREAK?
13:16:05 I KNOW COUNCILMAN CITRO, 2:30?
13:16:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I NEED TO CONTINUE BY 2:30.
13:16:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S CONTINUE THEN.
13:16:13 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS?
13:16:14 LET'S TAKE A TEN-MINUTE RECESS AND WE WILL BE BACK.
13:16:22 WE'LL BE BACK PROMPTLY IN FIVE MINUTES.
13:16:24 THANK YOU.
13:16:28 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
13:26:16
13:41:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
13:41:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
13:41:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
13:41:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
13:41:49 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
13:41:51 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
13:41:55 GO AHEAD.
13:41:55 >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
13:41:59 ITEM 60 IS A REQUEST BY THE AVIATION AUTHORITY TO VACATE
13:42:05 THE REMAINING RIGHTS-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH
13:42:09 AVENUE, NORTH OF TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, AND I HAVE A MAP.
13:42:25 THIS IS THE AIRPORT.
13:42:26 THIS IS SURROUNDING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN RED AND THE
13:42:31 STREETS TO BE VACATED IN YELLOW.
13:42:33 THIS IS CARGO ROAD, THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH, AND THE SOUTH
13:42:37 PORTION OF THE AIRPORT WHICH IS THE OLD TAMPA BAY
13:42:39 BOULEVARD.
13:42:45 I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE.
13:42:47 SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF VACATING TO ELIMINATE THE
13:42:50 RIGHTS-OF-WAY AS SO IN THIS FIRST OVERHEAD SHOT, THIS IS
13:42:56 WESTSHORE BEING VACATED.
13:42:57 WE JUST VACATED IN YELLOW.
13:42:59 AND IN GRAY ARE THE OLD VACATING AND THIS IS A
13:43:03 CONTINUATION OF THE VACATING, WESTSHORE AND THEN I THINK
13:43:08 CAYUGA AND CURTIS.
13:43:15 THIS IS THE FINAL PART.
13:43:16 THIS IS PART OF THE WESTSHORE, MLK, DAZZO, ORIENT, AND
13:43:23 OHIO.
13:43:24 I HAD LOTS OF PICTURES OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT I TRIED
13:43:25 TO ABBREVIATE WHAT WAS ON THE REPORT.
13:43:28 REALLY, WHAT'S LEFT OUT THERE IS VACANT LAND BASICALLY.
13:43:34 THIS IS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD LOOKING NORTH FROM SOUTH
13:43:36 AVENUE TOWARDS THE WEST.
13:43:39 THIS IS WESTSHORE LOOKING NORTH, TO VACATE A PORTION OF
13:43:44 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
13:43:47 THIS IS CAYUGA STREET, EAST OF WESTSHORE.
13:43:53 THIS IS CURTIS LOOKING EAST FROM WESTSHORE.
13:43:56 I THINK SOME OF THIS IS BEING USED FOR PARKING.
13:43:59 AND THIS IS MLK LOOKING WEST FROM AIR CARGO ROAD.
13:44:06 THIS IS TRASK STREET LOOKING SOUTH ON MLK.
13:44:14 YOU CAN SEE ALL THE STRUCTURES PRACTICALLY ARE GONE.
13:44:16 THIS IS ANOTHER PART OF WESTSHORE BOULEVARD LOOKING NORTH
13:44:19 FROM ORIENT.
13:44:20 WESTSHORE AGAIN.
13:44:23 WESTSHORE AGAIN LOOKING NORTH FROM OHIO, WHICH IS ON THE
13:44:26 SOUTH PART.
13:44:27 THAT'S OHIO LOOKING EAST FROM WESTSHORE.
13:44:31 SOUTH AVENUE LOOKING EAST FROM WESTSHORE.
13:44:33 AND THIS IS WESTSHORE AND THE CUL-DE-SAC AT THE SOUTH
13:44:37 END.
13:44:38 OHIO AVENUE.
13:44:42 DAZZO.
13:44:43 THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THE PETITIONERS' PROPERTY.
13:44:46 THIS IS LOOKING FROM WESTSHORE.
13:44:49 LOOKING WEST FROM WESTSHORE.
13:44:52 BIG STRETCH HERE.
13:44:52 LOOKING WEST FROM WESTSHORE AGAIN.
13:44:55 LOOKING EAST FROM WESTSHORE.
13:44:57 YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE FOUNDATIONS OF STRUCTURES THAT HAVE
13:45:00 BEEN TORN DOWN.
13:45:02 LOOKING EAST FROM WESTSHORE.
13:45:06 EAST FROM WESTSHORE.
13:45:07 THAT'S A GAS FILLING STATION.
13:45:13 AND THAT'S LOOKING SOUTH FROM CURTIS.
13:45:16 LOOKING SOUTH FROM CAYUGA.
13:45:19 AND NORTH OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.
13:45:25 SO BASICALLY STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
13:45:27 WE ARE GOING TO RESERVE EASEMENTS OVER VARIOUS PORTIONS
13:45:30 OF ALL OF THIS FOR ALL THE UTILITIES THAT NEED THEM.
13:45:33 THAT'S ALL UTILITIES EXCEPT FOR SPECTRUM.
13:45:36 AND SOLID WASTE COVERED BY AN UNDERSTANDING FOR ACCESS.
13:45:44 ANY QUESTIONS?
13:45:45 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
13:45:47 OKAY.
13:45:48 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:45:50 APPLICANT.
13:45:51 >> ADAM FINEGY REPRESENTING THE AVIATION AUTHORITY.
13:45:59 WE WENT THROUGH A PRIOR VACATE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO FOR
13:46:03 THE AREAS, FOR THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY YOU SEE IN RED ON THIS
13:46:06 DRAWING.
13:46:07 THIS IS THE WHOLE EAST DEVELOPMENT AREA JUST EAST OF THE
13:46:10 AIRPORT, DREW PARK AREA.
13:46:11 AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LONG-TERM ACQUISITION PROGRAM
13:46:15 TO BRING THAT AREA INTO AUTHORITY OWNERSHIP, BECAUSE AS
13:46:19 YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MASTER PLAN OF THE AIRPORT, THE EAST
13:46:24 DEVELOPMENT AREA HAS LONG BEEN AN AREA FOR THE
13:46:27 DEVELOPMENT OF AIRPORT-RELATED AND LARGE SCALE ECONOMIC
13:46:34 TYPES OF PROJECTS, THAT THE CA PROJECTS, AIRCRAFT
13:46:39 SIMULATOR, TRAINING PROJECTS, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE NORTH
13:46:42 END OF THIS AREA IN PURPLE OR BLUE OUTLINED BY RED.
13:46:47 THIS IS THE AREA THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY VACATED THREE
13:46:51 STREETS FOR.
13:46:53 SO VACATING THE REST OF THESE STREETS, WHY?
13:46:55 BECAUSE IN THE COURSE OF IMPLEMENTING THIS MASTER PLAN,
13:46:58 YOU SEE FOR EXAMPLE THE LARGER AREAS FOR UPS AIR CARGO
13:47:02 AND SO ON TO THE SOUTH.
13:47:04 THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER DESIGN AND GOING TO
13:47:06 IMPLEMENTATION RIGHT NOW.
13:47:07 SO THIS AREA THAT WAS SUBDIVIDED FOR RESIDENTIAL
13:47:11 DEVELOPMENT A LONG TIME AGO IS NOW BEING ESSENTIALLY
13:47:15 CONSOLIDATED INTO LARGER TRACTS FOR THESE LARGER
13:47:20 EMPLOYERS WHO ARE RELATED TO THE AIRPORT AND HAVE BEEN
13:47:23 ATTRACTED TO THE AIRPORT.
13:47:25 AS BARBARA MENTIONED, ONCE THESE STREETS ARE VACATED,
13:47:29 THERE IS A MASTER PLAN AS IT WERE FOR ACCESS FOR CITY
13:47:34 SERVICES.
13:47:35 THE STREETS YOU SEE HERE, WHICH WILL BE MOSTLY PRIVATE,
13:47:38 WILL BE KEPT OPEN PURSUANT TO THEIR AGREEMENT TODAY AS
13:47:46 WELL.
13:47:46 SO I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD AND PLEASE COMPLETE
13:47:51 FOR THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY THE MASTER PLAN STRATEGY, WHICH
13:47:54 IS TO ALLOW FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS ENTIRE AREA,
13:47:58 THE CARGO YOU SEE IN GRAY THERE ARE THE ONES VACATED,
13:48:03 SOME OF THEM WILL BE MAINTAINED FOR ACCESS.
13:48:05 ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
13:48:07 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
13:48:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
13:48:10 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
13:48:12 IS ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT PUBLICLY ON ITEM NUMBER 60?
13:48:16 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
13:48:17 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I BELIEVE FIRST BY
13:48:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:48:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:48:24 ANY OPPOSED?
13:48:25 WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
13:48:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE ORDINANCE.
13:48:29 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YOU KNOW WHAT?
13:48:33 DO YOU WANT TO READ IT?
13:48:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: VAC 19-23, AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
13:48:38 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING,
13:48:40 CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING PORTIONS OF
13:48:43 RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN AS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, WEST CURTIS
13:48:46 AVENUE, WEST CAYUGA STREET, DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
13:48:50 BOULEVARD, TRASK STREET, ORIENT STREET, N RENELLIE DRIVE,
13:48:58 WEST OHIO AVENUE AND DAZZO AVENUE LYING SOUTH OF
13:49:02 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, NORTH OF TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, WEST
13:49:05 OF AIR CARGO ROAD AND EAST OF TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
13:49:09 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME
13:49:13 BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO
13:49:16 CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS,A CONDITIONS AND
13:49:19 RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING
13:49:21 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
13:49:22 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:49:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:49:25 ANY OPPOSED?
13:49:25 >> THE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
13:49:29 JANUARY 9th AT 9:30 A.M.
13:49:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
13:49:33 NOW WE HAVE 59.
13:49:35 BEFORE WE DO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION TO MAKE
13:49:38 THESE PEOPLE WAIT LONGER.
13:49:40 I'M JOKING.
13:49:41 SORRY FOR MY HUMOR.
13:49:42 GO AHEAD.
13:49:45 I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
13:49:47 >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT.
13:49:48 THIS IS A REQUEST BY FLORIDA TAMPA HOLDING INSTITUTE TO
13:49:52 VACATE A DEAD-END RIGHT-OF-WAY IN EAST TAMPA.
13:49:59 THIS IS 62ND STREET. THIS IS THE PROPERTY OWNERS PARCEL.
13:50:02 YELLOW IS THE PORTION OF GOFF AVENUE THEY ARE REQUESTING
13:50:06 TO VACATE.
13:50:07 IT IS DEAD-ENDED.
13:50:08 AND I THOUGHT I WOULD SHOW YOU THIS.
13:50:09 THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON OUR CITY ATLAS, TO GIVE YOU
13:50:14 A GOOD IDEA.
13:50:15 THEN I FAILED TO PUT THE PLAT IN THE REPORT SO I WANTED
13:50:18 TO SHOW YOU THIS TOO.
13:50:19 THIS IS PLATTED BY A STANDARD RAILROAD PLAT.
13:50:23 EVERYTHING IN THIS PLAT WAS VACATED EXCEPT THIS ROAD
13:50:25 PROBABLY 70 YEARS AGO SO THIS IS THE REMAINING ROAD DOWN
13:50:30 THERE.
13:50:34 AND THEN THIS IS A SURVEY.
13:50:35 THIS IS A PICTURE THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THAT JUST
13:50:39 SHOWS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL CLOSER UP.
13:50:41 SO THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A BOND POND IN HERE AND ONLY
13:50:45 WANTED TO DO A PORTION OF THE ROADWAY BUT WE ENCOURAGED
13:50:47 THEM TO DO THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY USE
13:50:50 FOR A ROAD THAT IS DEAD-END AND ACTUALLY PART OF THEIR
13:50:52 SITE.
13:50:53 SO -- SOMEHOW I GOT MY PICTURES SCREWED UP.
13:51:11 EXCUSE ME.
13:51:11 OH, HERE IT IS.
13:51:12 THIS IS GOFF AVENUE. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THIS
13:51:16 IS THEIR SITE.
13:51:16 AND YOU CAN TELL IT'S ALREADY FENCED, SORT OF
13:51:20 INCORPORATED INTO THE PARCEL.
13:51:21 AND THIS IS 62ND STREET LOOKING NORTH.
13:51:25 GOFF AVENUE IS THAT WAY.
13:51:28 AND THIS WHOLE AREA IS PART OF THE PARCEL AND FENCE.
13:51:35 AND THIS IS 62ND STREET LOOKING SOUTH OF GOFF AVENUE AND
13:51:38 THAT'S NOT TO BE VACATED.
13:51:41 AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.
13:51:45 I BELIEVE THEY OWN THAT.
13:51:47 THIS IS THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF THEM.
13:51:49 AND THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THEIR SITE.
13:51:54 THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
13:51:57 THERE ARE EASEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ENTERED INTO BY
13:52:00 TECO AND SPECTRUM PRIVATELY.
13:52:04 THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE THE CITY A TEN-FOOT CONSTRUCTION
13:52:07 EASEMENT ON GOFF THAT'S GOING TO EXPIRE IN 2024.
13:52:11 BECAUSE DOT IS DOING A VERY LARGE PROJECT ON 62ND STREET.
13:52:15 THEY ARE GOING TO UPGRADE THE STREET AND THE DRAINAGE,
13:52:18 AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT THEY NEED
13:52:22 THAT EASEMENT TO WORK THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE ROAD.
13:52:25 THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE ELEVATED, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY
13:52:28 PROBLEMS WITH THIS VACATING.
13:52:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
13:52:31 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
13:52:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
13:52:34 THE APPLICANT?
13:52:35 WOULD YOU LIKE TO, SIR?
13:52:39 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
13:52:41 MAT POLLING, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, AN ATTORNEY
13:52:45 REPRESENTING APPLICANT.
13:52:47 WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT STAFF HAS SAID, AND WE
13:52:52 BELIEVE WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE ISSUES WITH THE
13:52:54 UTILITIES, WE ARE ENTERING INTO PRIVATE EASEMENTS.
13:52:56 THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD IS THAT THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY,
13:53:04 TO GO BACK TO THIS AERIAL, MY CLIENT OWNS THIS LARGER
13:53:07 PARCEL THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE. THIS
13:53:12 PARCEL TO THE SOUTH HAS A RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND THEIR SOLE
13:53:19 ACCESS IS ON 62ND STREET SO THERE'S NO IMPACT ON ANY
13:53:22 ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS BY THIS VACATION.
13:53:24 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL?
13:53:28 THANK YOU, SIR.
13:53:29 WE APPRECIATE IT.
13:53:30 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 59?
13:53:35 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
13:53:36 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
13:53:38 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
13:53:40 CITRO. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:53:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:53:43 ANY OPPOSED?
13:53:44 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ORDINANCE?
13:53:46 GO AHEAD, SIR.
13:53:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
13:53:50 DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN AS GOFF
13:53:55 AVENUE LYING SOUTH OF 10th AVENUE EAST OF 62ND STREET
13:53:58 AND NORTH OF CSX RAILROAD IN THE STANDARD RAILROAD OF THE
13:54:02 SOUTH, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
13:54:04 COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
13:54:07 SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
13:54:09 CONDITIONS, RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
13:54:13 HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
13:54:13 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
13:54:17 WE HAVE A SECOND BY, I BELIEVE IT WAS, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:54:20 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:54:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:54:23 ANY OPPOSED?
13:54:24 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
13:54:28 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION -- AT 9:30 A.M.
13:54:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOLKS.
13:54:34 HAPPY HOLIDAY.
13:54:35 MERRY CHRISTMAS.
13:54:36 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS WE HAVE.
13:54:38 SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO MOTIONS ET CETERA.
13:54:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?
13:54:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
13:54:45 EARLIER TODAY, I WAS TALKING ABOUT 34th STREET
13:54:48 BRIEFLY.
13:54:51 AND MY BRIDE AND I WERE DRIVING DOWN BAYSHORE LAST NIGHT,
13:54:54 AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AS ALWAYS.
13:54:56 AND I NOTICED THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS, THE
13:55:00 LAST ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL DID A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS
13:55:05 TO THE MEDIAN ON BAYSHORE, LOTS OF FLOWERS, SHRUBBERY,
13:55:09 AND IT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.
13:55:12 AND I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, IF WE HAVE A BIG UNDERTAKING
13:55:15 ON 34th STREET, WHY DOESN'T THE CITY AND STAFF WORK
13:55:19 TO DO SOMETHING EQUALLY AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL ON 34th
13:55:23 STREET, ESPECIALLY ON THE SIDEWALKS AND IN THE CIRCLES?
13:55:28 ANYWAY, I'LL JUST PUT IT IN THE FORM OF A REPORT BACK
13:55:32 FROM THE ADMINISTRATION GENERALLY, LET'S SAY FIRST
13:55:40 MEETING IN FEBRUARY, MR. SHELBY?
13:55:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
13:55:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REGULAR MEETING?
13:55:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: REGULAR MEETING, THERE ARE PRESENTLY
13:55:49 SIX STAFF REPORTS.
13:55:53 THE NEXT MEETING HAS THREE STAFF REPORTS ON THE 20th,
13:55:56 FEBRUARY 20th.
13:55:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
13:55:59 SO I WILL MOVE TO ASK FOR STAFF TO GIVE US A REPORT IN
13:56:02 PERSON ON THE FEASIBILITY OF GREENING AND BEAUTIFYING
13:56:09 34th STREET SIMILAR TO THE QUALITY OF BAYSHORE.
13:56:11 >> SECOND.
13:56:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
13:56:14 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:56:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:56:17 ANY OPPOSED?
13:56:17 AND WAS THAT IN PERSON OR --
13:56:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAID IN PERSON.
13:56:22 >>LUIS VIERA: MY APOLOGIES.
13:56:24 THANK YOU.
13:56:25 ANYONE ELSE?
13:56:26 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:56:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HEARD THE NAME EARLIER TALKED ABOUT,
13:56:35 AND IT'S A SPECIAL HONOR FOR ME TO DO THIS FOR HIM, I
13:56:38 WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO JAMES TOKLEY AS HE
13:56:40 IS THE FIRST -- IN 1996 THE TAMPA COMMUNITY -- AND THE
13:56:51 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION HONORED HIM AS THE
13:56:52 OFFICIAL COUNTY OFFICIAL.
13:56:54 I WILL PRESENT THIS TO HIM AT A REGULAR SESSION OF CITY
13:56:58 COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 6, 2020.
13:57:01 >>LUIS VIERA: AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER I THINK ALREADY
13:57:03 SECONDED THAT.
13:57:04 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:57:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] YES.
13:57:09 IF HE IS POET LAUREATE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
13:57:11 HE IS GOING TO BE COMING HERE AND INSTEAD OF AN
13:57:14 INVOCATION DELIVERING A PEOPLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT
13:57:18 ON THE SAME DAY?
13:57:19 I DON'T NOT EXACTLY THE DATE.
13:57:20 IT MAY BE IF MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE CAN COME IN AND GIVE ME
13:57:24 THE EXACT DATE BUT CAN WE PASS THAT AND WE'LL SOLIDIFY
13:57:30 THE DATE?
13:57:31 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:57:32 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A THIRD BY
13:57:35 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:57:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
13:57:38 OPPOSED?
13:57:39 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
13:57:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] FOLKS CAME AND TALKED
13:57:43 ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES, AND IT'S QUITE FRUSTRATING, I
13:57:49 KNOW MR. RAMIRO, AND THESE ISSUES WERE COMING UP ALL OVER
13:57:56 THE CITY ABOUT THESE PARKS.
13:57:57 RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESEARCH THE
13:58:00 CREATION OF HOUSE PARTY ORDINANCE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS
13:58:05 AND DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT ILLEGAL HOUSE PARTY IS.
13:58:09 THESE GENERATE A SOURCE OF NOISE WHICH BECOMES A
13:58:12 TREMENDOUS DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
13:58:13 I WOULD LIKE A DRAFT ORDINANCE BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL
13:58:15 DISCUSSION UNDER STAFF REPORTS AT A REGULAR SESSION OF
13:58:18 CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 19, 2020.
13:58:20 I HAVE COPIES OF ORDERS.
13:58:22 I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO THE DEPARTMENT TO AID THEM.
13:58:27 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:58:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE YOUNG LADY WHO WAS IN FRONT OF
13:58:33 US SPEAKING TO US FROM UT, SHE SAID WE NEED TO ADD THE
13:58:37 NOISE ORDINANCE, NEED TO ANSWER THE NOISE ORDINANCE TO
13:58:39 THE HOUSE PARTY ORDINANCE.
13:58:42 BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS ALREADY IN
13:58:45 PLACE.
13:58:47 SO THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POINT IS.
13:58:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE
13:58:52 POLICE WITH CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT MEETS CERTAIN NOISE
13:58:54 ORDINANCE THAT RELATES TO HOUSE PARTIES IN SITUATIONS IN
13:58:58 THE COMMUNITY, AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE A
13:59:01 COUPLE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THEY PARTICULARLY TALK ABOUT
13:59:05 HOUSE PARTIES AND WHAT CONSTITUTES HOUSE PARTIES.
13:59:08 IT IS VERY DEFINED IN THE WINTER PARK SECTION OF THEIR
13:59:12 ORDINANCE WHICH IS NOT DEFINED IN OUR ORDINANCES.
13:59:14 SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHEN YOU HAVE THESE
13:59:17 POP-UP PARTIES OR THESE ILLEGAL HOUSE PARTIES WHEREBY
13:59:19 THEY ARE NOT RELATIVES OF THE PARTICULAR HOUSE, THEY ARE
13:59:23 JUST PEOPLE COMING TO PARTY, AND YOU TALK ABOUT NOISE AND
13:59:28 ALCOHOL.
13:59:29 SO WINTER PARK WHICH I THINK KIND OF DEFINES CERTAIN
13:59:35 DETAILS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO STAFF LOOK AT THAT AND SEE
13:59:39 IF WE CAN --
13:59:43 >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
13:59:44 DOES THIS INCLUDE --
13:59:52 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A HOUSE PARTY
13:59:54 ORDINANCE.
13:59:54 JUST TO MAKE THE MOTION MORE CLEAR, I THINK WHAT YOU ARE
13:59:57 ASKING US TO DO IS TO LOOK AT THESE OTHER ONES AND
14:00:00 PERHAPS BEEF OURS UP, ADD OTHER FACTORS TO IT, SEE HOW IT
14:00:07 INTERACTS WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE, AND IT WOULD BE VERY
14:00:11 HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCES FROM OTHER
14:00:13 JURISDICTIONS.
14:00:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE COPY EARLIER.
14:00:19 BUT WE HAVE A COPY OF THE --
14:00:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DIRECT IT TO MS. ZELMAN, THE ORDINANCE
14:00:25 IN WINTER PARK.
14:00:26 DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS?
14:00:31 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
14:00:33 OH, WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THAT H.COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:00:36 WHO SECONDED THAT?
14:00:37 COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
14:00:39 ANY OPPOSED?
14:00:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] AND LAST, IN EAST
14:00:45 TAMPA, TO ADD A SPIRITUAL ASPECT TO THE HOLIDAY SPIRIT,
14:00:50 WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY INTO THE
14:00:53 CONCEPT OF CHRISTMAS IN EAST TAMPA.
14:00:56 WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH SOME DONATIONS THAT CAME INTO
14:00:59 TAMPA.
14:01:02 BEAUTIFUL TREES, AND A POND ON 34th STREET.
14:01:04 I HAVE GOTTEN SOME CALLS THE LAST COUPLE OF NIGHTS,
14:01:10 PEOPLE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
14:01:12 EVEN MR. JOE ROBINSON.
14:01:14 HE LOVED IT.
14:01:15 SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO DONATED TO THIS
14:01:18 CAUSE, AND I THINK THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS BINDING
14:01:23 TO THAT.
14:01:24 YOU MAY SEE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE BLIGHTED AS WELL.
14:01:27 BUT LET ME SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES, HAPPY HOLIDAY TO YOU
14:01:31 ALL, AND A IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL WORKING WITH YOU SO FAR
14:01:37 AND I APPRECIATE THE CAMARADERIE.
14:01:40 JUST HAVING GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND SO GOD BLESS YOU ALL
14:01:44 AND YOUR FAMILIES AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.
14:01:48 >>LUIS VIERA: VERY WELL SAID, COUNCILMAN.
14:01:49 FOR PURPOSES OF THE TREE LIGHTING, IS THAT THIS SATURDAY?
14:01:54 >> THIS SATURDAY AT 5 P.M. AT THE ROBERT COLE PARK RIGHT
14:01:58 ACROSS BETWEEN THE MAGNET SCHOOL, BETWEEN 17th AND
14:02:01 19th STREET, MLK BOULEVARD.
14:02:03 SO IF ANYTHING HAPPENS MOVE IT TO CYRUS GREEN, TO HAVE
14:02:10 THE CEREMONY, AND JUST HAVE EVERYBODY LINE UP, AND THEY
14:02:15 HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
14:02:18 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S A GREAT THING.
14:02:20 LITTLE THINGS MEAN A LOT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE A
14:02:22 DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.
14:02:23 I WILL NOT BE THERE.
14:02:24 I WILL BE AT A CONCERT AT CALVIN BRODIS THAT EVENING BUT
14:02:28 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT THING.
14:02:31 COUNCILMAN, YOU ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, I BELIEVE, A
14:02:34 SULPHUR SPRINGS WORKSHOP?
14:02:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:02:48 WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING SOME WORK DONE BUT WEE I WOULD
14:02:53 LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE MR. SHELBY AND MYSELF COME
14:02:58 UP WITH A DATE AND TIME WITH LOGISTICS FOR HAVING A
14:03:02 COMMUNITY TOWN HALL MEETING WITH THE FOLKS IN THE AREA OF
14:03:04 SULPHUR SPRINGS.
14:03:05 I KNOW THE SCHOOL IS RIGHT THERE.
14:03:08 THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT MEETING.
14:03:13 IT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY, AND TO ACCOMMODATE WITH THAT.
14:03:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD YOU MIND COMING BACK, LET'S SAY,
14:03:19 AT THE END OF STAFF REPORTS ON THE SECOND MEETING IN
14:03:23 JANUARY AFTER THE HOLIDAY, ON THE 23rd?
14:03:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL BE FINE, SIR.
14:03:29 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:03:31 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:03:34 ALL IN FAVOR ARE? ANY OPPOSED?
14:03:36 SIR, DID YOU ALSO WANT TO HAVE -- I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE
14:03:41 SOMETHING TO SAY, SIR?
14:03:43 GO AHEAD.
14:03:44 >>BILL CARLSON: WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT SO WE CAN DO A
14:03:46 SEPARATE AMENDMENT.
14:03:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THE WORKSHOP, RIGHT?
14:03:50 AND I GUESS COUNCILMAN CARL SOP WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME
14:03:55 THING.
14:03:55 THE DATE MAY BE IN APRIL OR MAY YOU GUYS WERE THINKING
14:03:58 ABOUT FOR A WORKSHOP TO TALK EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT SULPHUR
14:04:00 SPRINGS.
14:04:03 >>BILL CARLSON: AFTER THE TOWN HALL MEETING.
14:04:04 >>LUIS VIERA: SO I GUESS ONCE WE GET THE DATE THEN WE CAN
14:04:07 SET THAT.
14:04:08 I LIKE THAT.
14:04:09 GREAT.
14:04:09 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:04:10 ANYTHING ELSE?
14:04:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT
14:04:17 THE APRIL 23rd IS BOOKED, BECAUSE BETWEEN NOW AND
14:04:22 JANUARY AND APRIL, I'M SURE YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT
14:04:24 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT MEETING BEFORE APRIL IN SULPHUR
14:04:26 SPRINGS.
14:04:28 UNLESS YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER.
14:04:30 IF YOU WANT TO PLACE THAT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
14:04:41 [OFF MICROPHONE] APRIL 23rd, 9:00 A.M.
14:04:44 >> SULPHUR SPRINGS WORKSHOP?
14:04:50 >>LUIS VIERA: AND YOU CAN DEFINE IT LATER IN TERMS OF
14:04:51 STAFF.
14:04:52 GOOD.
14:04:53 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:04:54 SO FOR THAT AMENDMENT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
14:04:57 GUDES.
14:04:59 COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE THE SECOND FOR THE WORKSHOP.
14:05:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:05:03 OPPOSED?
14:05:04 THANK YOU.
14:05:04 ANYTHING, SIR?
14:05:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE,
14:05:07 HAPPY HANUKKAH, HAPPY KWANZAA, AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO DEB
14:05:14 I AM MERSER.
14:05:17 LET HER NOBODY WE WILL BE THINKING OF HER.
14:05:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO ALL THE GOOD CITIZENS OF TAMPA, ALL
14:05:24 THE EMPLOYEES, TO OUR CITY STAFF, TO OUR LEGAL TEAM, AND
14:05:27 ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE AT CITY COUNCIL, VERY MERRY
14:05:31 CHRISTMAS.
14:05:31 HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
14:05:32 AND A SAFE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
14:05:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:05:35 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:05:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO THINGS.
14:05:38 I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IN MY DISCLOSURE, FINANCIAL
14:05:40 INTEREST.
14:05:45 REZ 19 OAT 97 WITH A CHANGE OF MOTION TO EXTEND TO THE A
14:05:48 LATER DAY.
14:05:50 I WILL BE ABSTAINING WHEN IT COMES FOR UP FOR ZONING.
14:06:03 SECOND, A MOTION TO RECOGNIZE THE NEW YORK YANKEES AND BE
14:06:08 PRESENTED TO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON FEBRUARY
14:06:10 20th.
14:06:12 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:06:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:06:14 ANY OPPOSED?
14:06:22 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I OBSERVED WHEN WE
14:06:26 FIRST JOINED, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
14:06:28 PARTICULARLY BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THESE, IS THERE WERE A
14:06:31 LOT OF SINGLE BID CONTRACTS THAT CAME BEFORE US, AND I
14:06:34 HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT
14:06:36 IT.
14:06:36 AND THOSE HAVE REDUCED A LOT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
14:06:40 BUT IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, HE ALSO SUGGESTED THAT
14:06:42 I TALK TO THE HEAD OF THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT, AND DISCUSS
14:06:45 THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING AN AUDIT THERE.
14:06:47 AND I KNOW WE HAVE AUDIT APPROVAL, OR AUDIT SHORT, BUT I
14:06:50 WONDER IF WE COULD JUST PASS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT
14:06:55 THE ADMINISTRATION DO AN AUDIT.
14:06:57 WHAT I WOULD DO IS SUGGEST -- SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
14:07:02 ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO CONDUCT AN AUDIT OF THE
14:07:06 SINGLE-BID CONTRACTS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
14:07:08 THESE ARE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US THAT ONLY
14:07:10 HAD ONE BIDDER.
14:07:12 AND WITH THE PURPOSE OF FINDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
14:07:18 PURCHASING AND FOR THE CITY SO THAT WE COULD PREVENT
14:07:23 SINGLE-BID CONTRACT IN THE FUTURE.
14:07:24 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY DISCUSSION?
14:07:28 GO AHEAD.
14:07:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, I LIKE WHERE YOU ARE
14:07:32 HEADED ON THIS.
14:07:35 MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT DEFERRING TO AUDIT STAFF IS THAT
14:07:39 WHENEVER -- WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO AUDIT STAFF, THEY DO
14:07:43 WHAT THEY ARE TASKED TO DO.
14:07:45 BUT WHAT THEY ARE TASKED TO DO IS SAY, IN THIS CASE, THEY
14:07:48 WOULD LOOK AT THE PURCHASING RULES AND SAY THAT THE
14:07:52 PURCHASING DEPARTMENT COMPLYING WITH THE PURCHASING RULES
14:07:54 AS RELATED TO SINGLE-BID CONTRACTS, AND MY GUESS IS,
14:07:58 KNOWING MR. SPEARMAN AND HIS STAFF, THEY PROBABLY ARE.
14:08:03 THAT DOESN'T MOVE US NECESSARILY TO WHERE IT SOUND LIKE
14:08:07 YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE GOING.
14:08:09 SO I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE MOTION AT ALL, BUT I WOULDN'T
14:08:12 BE REAL OPTIMISTIC THAT THAT'S GOING --
14:08:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU HAVE A PURCHASING BACKGROUND. WOULD
14:08:18 YOU ASK THAT WE ASK FOR SOME KIND OF CONSULTANT TO COME
14:08:20 IN?
14:08:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK SOMEBODY EITHER INTERNALLY OR
14:08:24 EXTERNALLY NEEDS TO LOOK A THE POLICIES THAT ARE IN PLACE
14:08:26 THAT SORT OF ALLOW FOR AND/OR EVEN ENCOURAGE THE SINGLE
14:08:33 BIDS.
14:08:34 >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF AN AUDIT, HOW ABOUT IF I
14:08:38 RECOMMEND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION TO AUDIT, CONSULTANT OR
14:08:41 SOME OTHER PROCESS, LOOK AT THE PROCESSES THAT LED TO
14:08:48 SINGLE BID PROCESS WITH THE PURPOSE OF MAKING
14:08:51 RECOMMENDATIONS TO US HOW TO CHANGE THE PROCESS GOING
14:08:53 FORWARD TO AVOID THAT?
14:08:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT MIGHT GET YOU WHERE YOU
14:08:57 WANT TO BE.
14:08:59 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ARE YOU STILL OKAY WITH
14:09:01 THAT AS A SECOND?
14:09:02 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:09:04 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:09:05 OH, YES, SIR?
14:09:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW I MET WITH MS. ZELMAN AND ONE OF
14:09:11 THE OTHER ATTORNEYS THE OTHER DAY, KIND OF IN THE REALM
14:09:14 OF CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
14:09:17 AND I WOULD PUT OUT THERE NOW, MAKING A MOTION AFTER THE
14:09:22 FIRST OF THE YEAR, BUT KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF LOOKING
14:09:25 AT CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, OR HOW THE BID PROCESS, OR HOW
14:09:31 THE CONSTRUCTION -- BECAUSE WE DON'T DO A LOT OF BUILDING
14:09:35 AS FAR AS BRICK AND MORTAR, BUT WHEN WE DO HAVE THOSE
14:09:40 JOBS, HOW IS IT BIDDED OUT AND HOW DO THEY COME UP WITH
14:09:44 THE NUMBERS?
14:09:49 I WON'T ASK THAT RIGHT NOW BUT I KNOW MR. DINGFELDER IS
14:09:53 REHEARSING SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
14:09:54 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
14:09:59 >>BILL CARLSON: MY SECOND ONE --
14:10:01 >>LUIS VIERA: DID WE VOTE ON THAT?
14:10:03 >>BILL CARLSON: OH, YES, CAN WE DO MARCH 5th?
14:10:08 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:10:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:10:10 ANY OPPOSED?
14:10:11 GO AHEAD, SIR.
14:10:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
14:10:12 SECOND IS, SOME OF US HAD FOUR ENTERTAINING HOURS WITH
14:10:18 OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY THE OTHER DAY ON ETHICS
14:10:20 TRAINING, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED THROUGH
14:10:23 THAT IS THAT ONLY 8 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE TO
14:10:27 TAKE ETHICS TRAINING.
14:10:28 AND UNLESS I CAN WRONG.
14:10:30 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO LOOK
14:10:33 INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING ETHICS TRAINING FOR ALL
14:10:38 EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY, OR AT LEAST DEPARTMENT HEADS.
14:10:48 WITH THE COST REFLECTED.
14:10:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS, I BELIEVE YOUR CITY'S
14:10:52 ETHICS CODE REQUIRES NEW EMPLOYEES TO TAKE ETHICS
14:10:55 TRAINING.
14:10:56 I DON'T HAVE THE ETHICS CODE IN FRONT OF ME IT.
14:10:59 >>BILL CARLSON: I FORGOT, ANNUALLY.
14:11:01 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
14:11:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RESTATE THE MOTION.
14:11:10 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WE ASK STAFF TO LOOK INTO THE
14:11:12 POSSIBILITY OF AND COST OF ETHICS TRAINING ANNUALLY FOR
14:11:16 EITHER ALL EMPLOYEES, OR AT LEAST DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND
14:11:21 TO REPORT BACK TO US ON MARCH 5th.
14:11:25 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
14:11:26 OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, A SECOND BY
14:11:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:11:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:11:31 ANY OPPOSED?
14:11:32 OKAY.
14:11:32 AND THEN I HAVE A FEW JUST VERY BRIEFLY, ALSO, ON SUNDAY,
14:11:37 WE ARE DOING THE MENORAH, ON SUNDAY AT FIVE?
14:11:43 AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW, I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO
14:11:45 THAT.
14:11:46 AND THAT IS DANGEROUS.
14:11:49 SO JUST BE PREPARED.
14:11:51 THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
14:11:52 A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF I MAY.
14:11:55 I'M WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF COMMUNITY LEADERS ON
14:11:57 SOMETHING WITH THE EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE THAT WAS IN
14:11:59 THE PAPER REGARDING THE ERECTION OF A MARKER MEMORIAL TO
14:12:03 ADDRESS AND HISTORICALLY COMMEMORATE OUR TRAGIC HISTORY
14:12:09 OF RACIAL LYNCHING AND THERE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR
14:12:12 STATEMENTS FOR SUPPORTS FROM BODIES AND LEADERS AND I
14:12:14 WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LETTER COME OUT FROM THIS BODY
14:12:17 SUPPORTING, I THINK THE EFFORT, AND JUST SEND IT OUT.
14:12:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
14:12:24 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:12:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:12:27 >>LUIS VIERA: AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT CASS INDICATED
14:12:30 EARLIER TODAY, A BILL SUPPORTED BY FINES AND PEACE
14:12:33 JUSTICE CENTER TO ELIMINATE DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSION
14:12:37 FOR NONPAYMENT OF DEBT.
14:12:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN VIERA,
14:12:41 SECONDED BY CHAIRMAN MIRANDA.
14:12:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:12:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HART TO PRESENT
14:12:49 THEIR BRT STUDY AT THE REGULAR SESSION OF COUNCIL ON
14:12:53 FEBRUARY 6th.
14:12:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA, SECONDED
14:12:58 BY CHAIRMAN CITRO.
14:13:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:13:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN LAST SOMEONE TO LOOK AT SITES IN THE
14:13:05 TERRACE PARK BUSCH BOULEVARD AREA FOR THE CREATION OF A
14:13:09 COMMUNITY MEETING SPACE FIRST FOR DESIGN, BUT LOCATIONS
14:13:14 WHERE THAT DESIGN COULD BE MADE FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING
14:13:18 SPACE.
14:13:18 THERE'S A RELATIVELY NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT
14:13:22 TERRACE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
14:13:24 COUNCILMAN MONTELIONE BRIEFLY SPOKE ABOUT IT, LED BY LES
14:13:32 RAMOS, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE DONE.
14:13:36 SECOND.
14:13:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:13:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:13:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS IT.
14:13:41 YES, SIR?
14:13:42 OH, YOU KNOW WHAT?
14:13:43 I APOLOGIZE.
14:13:43 I NEVER PUT A DATE.
14:13:45 LET'S MAKE IT THE THIRD WEEK IN JANUARY.
14:13:49 AND IT'S JUST A REPORT, NOT -- JANUARY 23rd.
14:13:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT 23rd?
14:13:57 >>LUIS VIERA: IF IT'S A REPORT I DON'T NEED ANYBODY HERE
14:13:59 FOR THAT.
14:14:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO IT'S A WRITTEN REPORT.
14:14:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, JUST FOR LOCATIONS AND SITES WITHIN
14:14:04 THAT COMMUNITY WHERE A COMMUNITY MEETING SPACE COULD BE
14:14:07 CONSISTENT WITH DESIGN.
14:14:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
14:14:11 MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, COUNCIL
14:14:16 MEMBER CARLSON DID REFERENCE THE 4 HOUR ETHICS TRAINING
14:14:21 ON MONDAY MORNING.
14:14:22 IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN IT, I DID SEND AN E-MAIL TO
14:14:25 YOU AND YOUR AIDES, THAT IS ONLINE, IT'S AVAILABLE FOR
14:14:30 ELECTRONIC DOWNLOAD, WHICH I AM TOLD HAS BEEN STREAMING
14:14:35 BUT YOU CAN STREAM IT AS WELL.
14:14:36 IT'S GOING TO REMAIN UP THERE.
14:14:38 SO I HAVE THE GOOD NEWS.
14:14:39 FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, YOU HAVE UNTIL
14:14:42 DECEMBER 31st THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
14:14:44 BUT IF YOU WATCH IT ON LET'S SAY NEW YEAR'S DAY INSTEAD
14:14:47 OF WATCHING FOOTBALL, THEN YOU WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENT
14:14:50 FOR ALL OF 2020 AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO BE BOTHERED WITH IT
14:14:55 AGAIN.
14:14:55 SO THAT BEING SAID, I WANT --
14:14:58 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN THAT BE SEEN ON OUR PHONE?
14:15:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, YOU CAN.
14:15:04 IT'S BROKEN INTO TWO PARTS.
14:15:06 PART A TWO HOURS, PART B TWO HOURS.
14:15:09 AND THEY ARE EACH CLOSE -- ACTUALLY IT'S -- THAT BEING
14:15:17 SAID, IF YOU HAVE A NEED FOR ASSISTANCE THE FROM ME TO BE
14:15:19 ABLE TO ACCESS THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
14:15:23 GIVE ME A CALL.
14:15:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNSEL, WHO IS FAILING OUR PAPERWORK FOR
14:15:29 THOSE WHO ATTEND?
14:15:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, WHEN YOU SAY PAPERWORK, YOU MEAN
14:15:34 IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE OR IN TERMS THAT YOU MET THE
14:15:37 REQUIREMENT?
14:15:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
14:15:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DO THAT.
14:15:40 YOU WILL FILE THAT FORM WHEN YOU ARE FILE YOUR FINANCIAL
14:15:44 DISCLOSURE FORM, THAT FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR, 2019 YOU
14:15:48 COMPLETE THAT.
14:15:49 BY JULY OF NEXT YEAR IS WHEN YOU REPORT.
14:15:51 FOR THIS YEAR.
14:15:52 AND THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO WISH
14:15:55 EACH OF YOU A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY, IT'S A TREMENDOUS
14:15:57 PREVIOUS TO SERVE YOU.
14:15:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
14:15:59 AND BY THE WAY, MR. TAYLOR RALPH, SOME PEOPLE COME, AND
14:16:06 JUST MAKING SURE.
14:16:11 RALPH LOREN.
14:16:14 >>BILL CARLSON: HE WILL GIVE AUTOGRAPHS AFTERWARDS.
14:16:16 [ LAUGHTER ]
14:16:18 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY HOLIDAY AND
14:16:21 MERRY CHRISTMAS AND PUT A CHALLENGE OUT TO EVERYBODY ON
14:16:22 SOCIAL MEDIA.
14:16:23 THERE'S A LOT OF CAUSTIC THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING BUT I
14:16:29 WANT TO CHALLENGE EVERYBODY AT LEAST UNTIL THE END OF THE
14:16:31 HOLIDAY SEASON TO NOT POST ANY NEGATIVE ACUTE OR CAUSTIC
14:16:35 POVERTY.
14:16:36 WE ARE MEETING FOLKS AT THE DINNER TABLE FOR HANUKKAH,
14:16:40 FOR CHRISTMAS.
14:16:44 WE HAVE PROBLEMS.
14:16:45 GOD KNOWS WE ARE AWARE OF THEM.
14:16:46 I AM TALKING TO MYSELF, TOO, BY THE WAY.
14:16:48 FOR THE REST OF THE HOLIDAY.
14:16:52 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
14:16:53 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
14:16:57 OKAY.
14:16:57 MERRY CHRISTMAS.
14:16:58 HAPPY HOLIDAY.
14:17:01 (MEETING ADJOURNED)
14:17:50
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