Tampa City Council
Thursday, December 12, 2019
6:00 p.m.
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18:07:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO WE ARE MISSING TWO.
18:07:35 THE CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR, AND I WILL START THE MEETING
18:07:38 IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT FOR ALL THE FOLKS HERE.
18:07:41 I KNOW YOU WOULD SAY YES THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT.
18:07:45 LET ME CALL ROLL AND THEN JOHN DINGFELDER.
18:07:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
18:07:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
18:07:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
18:07:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
18:08:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. DINGFELDER?
18:08:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU, GOOD
18:08:19 EVENING.
18:08:23 I HAVE HERE WITH ME.
18:08:27 WE ARE HERE TO HONOR HIS RECENTLY DECEASED WIFE, VICKY
18:08:32 POLYIER.
18:08:35 MANY OF YOU KNOW VICKY VERY WELL OVER THE YEARS IN A
18:08:37 VARIETY OF CONTEXTS.
18:08:43 SHE AND ARCHIE WERE GOOD FRIENDS OF LYNN AND MINE AND
18:08:47 MORE IMPORTANTLY GREAT CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
18:08:55 VERY TRAGIC WE LOST VICKY RECENTLY BUT WANTED TO
18:08:59 PRESENT HER WITH THIS COMMENDATION POSTHUMOUSLY THROUGH
18:09:05 ARCHIE AND I WILL READ IT AS FOLLOWS: VICKY LOVED OUR
18:09:08 CITY AND ESPECIALLY ITS NEIGHBORHOODS.
18:09:11 VICKY WAS TIRELESS ACTIVIST WHO KNEW EVERY INCH OF THE
18:09:15 CITY AND KNEW HOW TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM TO MAKE
18:09:16 POSITIVE CHANGE.
18:09:20 OFTEN CONFINED TO A WHEELCHAIR, VICKY'S CONTAGIOUS
18:09:26 ENTHUSIASM WAS NEVER CONFINED.
18:09:28 PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, VICKY WAS
18:09:32 FREQUENT SPEAKER AT THIS PODIUM AT CITY HALL OFTEN
18:09:34 ADVOCATING LATE INTO THE EVENING NOT ONLY FOR HER
18:09:36 NEIGHBORHOOD BUT TO IMPROVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ALL
18:09:39 ACROSS THE CITY.
18:09:42 AS PART OF THOSE EFFORTS SHE HELPED COUNCIL WRITE
18:09:46 LEGISLATION TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER AND OUR
18:09:47 NEIGHBORHOODS STRONGER.
18:09:49 SHE LOVED NATURE AND A PROTECTOR OF THE BAY AS WELL AS
18:09:51 OUR TREES AND PARKS.
18:09:53 PRIOR TO APPEARING BEFORE VARIOUS BOARDS INCLUDING THE
18:09:58 ARC, THE BRB AND CITY COUNCIL, VICKY ALWAYS DID A HUGE
18:10:01 AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND TREMENDOUSLY WELL PREPARED WITH
18:10:05 RATIONALE ARGUMENTS BASED ON FACTS, NOT OPINIONS OR
18:10:05 EMOTIONS.
18:10:10 AND WHILE ALWAYS -- AND WHILE ALWAYS PASSIONATE,
18:10:13 PERSISTENT AND CREATIVE WITH HER ARGUMENTS SHE WAS
18:10:17 RESPECTFUL AND PROFESSIONAL IN HER PRESENTATIONS AND
18:10:20 NEVER TOOK ANY DEFEAT FOR VOTE PERSONALLY.
18:10:24 VICKY'S NIECE IN THE NEWSPAPER REMINDED US THAT VICKY
18:10:28 WILL BE REMEMBERED BY HER DEVOTION AND INTENSE
18:10:30 CURIOSITY AND CARING FOR OTHERS.
18:10:32 SHE HAD AN INCREDIBLE GIFT OF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
18:10:36 VICKY'S IMPACT WAS SO POWERFUL THAT AFTER HER PASSING,
18:10:39 SIGNS POPPED UP ALL OVER THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ANONYMOUSLY
18:10:41 IN BAYSHORE GARDENS.
18:10:44 THEY HAD ANGEL WINGS ON THEM NOTING THAT, QUOTE, HER
18:10:48 KINDNESS LEFT AN INTERNAL IMPRINT ON THIS WORLD AND HER
18:10:51 LOVE WILL FOREVER LIVE IN OUR HEARTS.
18:10:55 VICKY MAY NEVER GRACE THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS AGAIN, HER
18:10:59 HEART, SOUL AND VIBRANT SMILE MAY SHINE OVER US
18:10:59 FOREVER.
18:11:05 ARCHIE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO YOU NOT ONLY YOUR LOSS
18:11:09 AND OUR COMMUNITY'S LOSS, BUT HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE
18:11:13 YOUR SACRIFICE BECAUSE FOR EVERY HOUR VICKY WAS HERE
18:11:14 WITH US, SHE WASN'T WITH YOU.
18:11:19 AND WE KNOW YOU WERE HOME WITH THE DOG, BUT ANYWAY.
18:11:22 WE JUST LOVE YOU GUYS AND APPRECIATE ALL YOU HAVE DONE
18:11:23 FOR OUR CITY.
18:11:24 TO SO, THANK YOU.
18:11:28 YOU WANT TO SAY ANY WORDS ON BEHALF OF VICKY?
18:11:32 >> WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF VICKY IS SHE
18:11:36 HAD BOTH AFFECTION AND RESPECT FOR YOU ALL BOTH
18:11:40 INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A COUNCIL, AS AN INSTITUTION.
18:11:44 SHE WAS SO PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE WORKINGS OF THIS
18:11:46 COMMUNITY.
18:11:49 AND SHE KNEW ABOUT THIS BEFORE SHE PASSED AWAY.
18:11:51 I AM SURE YOU KNOW THAT.
18:11:53 AND IT MEANT THE WORLD TO HER.
18:11:58 SO ON HER BEHALF ON MINE AND ALL OF OUR PEOPLE HERE, I
18:12:00 THANK YOU, GUYS, VERY MUCH.
18:12:12 [APPLAUSE]
18:12:19 >> ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
18:12:26 >> ANY TIME JOHN DINGFELDER GOES TO THE PODIUM, WHICH IS
18:12:30 RARE, THAT PERSON WAS LOVED BY HIM HAND TO DO A LOT FOR
18:12:30 THE COMMUNITY.
18:12:32 I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOUR WIFE DID FOR THE
18:12:37 COMMUNITY AND THE CITY, AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
18:12:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE.
18:12:42 >> ARCHIE, YOU AND HAVE I KNOWN EACH OTHER GOING ON 30
18:12:43 YEARS.
18:12:46 YOU AND VICKY NEVER HAVE CHILDREN, BUT SHE WAS A MOTHER
18:12:51 TO A LOT OF CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY US BIG KIDS THAT
18:12:53 SOMETIMES ACTED LIKE CHILDREN.
18:12:57 THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME WHEN VICKY AND I DIDN'T AGREE,
18:13:01 BUT SHE ALWAYS MADE ME THINK, AND I THANK HER FOR THAT.
18:13:04 I OFTEN SAY THAT NO ONE EVER DIES AS LONG AS SOMEONE
18:13:08 SPEAKS KINDLY ABOUT HER.
18:13:11 AS WE HAVE SEEN, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
18:13:15 GOING TO BE SPEAKING KINDLY ABOUT VICKY FOR MANY, MANY
18:13:16 YEARS TO COME.
18:13:18 SHE IS NOT GONE.
18:13:22 SHE IS WITH US ALL.
18:13:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, ARCHIE.
18:13:28 VICTIM LE NOT ONLY BE MISSED BY YOURSELF AND HER
18:13:31 FRIENDS, SHE WAS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT LOVES PEOPLE.
18:13:33 THAT SEEMS TO BE NATURAL.
18:13:37 IT IS A RARITY NOWADAYS.
18:13:39 TELL YOU IN A WAY AND FORM THAT SHE KNEW SHE WAS
18:13:45 DISPLEASED AND NEVER SAID IT WITHOUT A SMILE AND NEVER
18:13:46 TOOK IT PERSONALLY.
18:13:49 HER VOICE MEANT A LOT TO ME AND I LISTENED EVERY TIME
18:13:50 SHE SPOKE.
18:13:52 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
18:13:54 >> THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO OUR
18:13:56 COMMUNITY AS JOHN JUST SAID.
18:14:00 VICKI WAS SUCH A GREAT PERSON AND INSPIRATION TO ALL OF
18:14:04 US AND A MENTOR TO ALL OF US AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND
18:14:06 JUST SO MUCH TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
18:14:08 SO POSITIVE THOUGHTS TO HER TONIGHT.
18:14:13 AND THANK YOU FOR COMING.
18:14:16 >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
18:14:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND
18:14:21 ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON FOR -- YOU KNOW,
18:14:24 HOLIDAYS CAN BE A VERY WONDERFUL TIME FOR FAMILIES, BUT
18:14:27 WHEN YOU ARE MISSING SOMEONE SPECIAL, THEY CAN, YOU
18:14:29 KNOW, BE A CHALLENGING TIME.
18:14:29 GOD BLESS YOU.
18:14:31 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:14:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPEAKING OF THE HOLIDAYS, VICKY AND
18:14:38 ARCHIE WERE NOTORIOUS FOR THEIR ANNUAL CHRISTMAS
18:14:40 MORNING PARTY AND THEY INVITED -- THEY INVITED
18:14:44 EVERYTHING AND ANYBODY AND MANY STRAYS INCLUDING US
18:14:46 SOMETIMES.
18:14:47 >> AND THIS PARTY CONTINUES.
18:14:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
18:15:03 [APPLAUSE]
18:15:05 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:15:10 NEXT -- WE USUALLY DO NOT BEGIN NIGHT COUNCIL MEETINGS
18:15:13 WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BUT HERE TONIGHT WE HAVE
18:15:17 BOY SCOUT TROOP 16 -- OH, THEY ARE NOT HERE?
18:15:19 IS EVERYBODY HERE?
18:15:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE THEY HERE NOW?
18:15:22 I APOLOGIZE.
18:15:24 THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE NOT HERE AND NOW THEY ARE HERE.
18:15:29 >>LUIS VIERA: SO WE HAVE BOY SCOUT TROOP 16 AND PACK
18:15:32 16 REPRESENTED -- REPRESENTATIVES FROM THEM HERE WHO
18:15:35 WILL BE DOING WHAT THEY DO BEST FOR GOD AND COUNTRY AND
18:15:39 LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY ITALIAN
18:15:45 STALLION NICHOLAS -- IF EVERYBODY IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO
18:15:49 SO, RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU ALL WANT
18:15:56 TO COME FORWARD.
18:15:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THOUGHT THAT THE PODIUM HAD A
18:16:00 MIC.
18:16:03 YOU DON'T SEE IT.
18:16:23 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
18:16:31 >>LUIS VIERA: AND BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR VERY EXCITING
18:16:32 LAND USE.
18:16:34 EACH TELL US YOUR NAME, WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL.
18:16:46 AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOU GET OLDER.
18:16:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR NAME, WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL.
18:16:53 >> I GO TO HENDERSON CHARTER SCHOOL AND WHAT I WANT TO
18:16:56 BE WHEN I GROW UP, I WANT TO BE AN ATTORNEY FOR THE
18:16:56 MILITARY.
18:16:59 >>LUIS VIERA: AN ATTORNEY FOR THE MILITARY.
18:17:00 I AM AN ATTORNEY.
18:17:01 SO THERE YOU GO.
18:17:03 I CAME OUT ALL RIGHT.
18:17:04 YEAH, EXACTLY.
18:17:06 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:17:07 >> NICHOLAS.
18:17:10 I GO TO TOWN AND COUNTRY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY AND I WOULD
18:17:13 LIKE TO GO IN THE NAVY.
18:17:15 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT, TWO MILITARY MEN.
18:17:16 HOW BUT SPORT.
18:17:21 >> SERGIO FERRAR AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE A SURGEON FOR
18:17:21 THE MILITARY.
18:17:28 >>LUIS VIERA: VERY PATRIOTIC YOUNG MEN.
18:17:30 A GOOD OLD-SCHOOL NAME.
18:17:31 GOOD FOR YOU.
18:17:33 WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE TODAY.
18:17:35 ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SAY TONIGHT?
18:17:42 YOU HAVE THE FLOOR?
18:17:45 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS, IF I MAY, TELL ME
18:17:47 SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED THAT IS IMPORTANT TO
18:17:50 YOUR LIFE VALUES AND APPLICATIONS FROM THE BOY SCOUTS
18:17:57 OR CUB SCOUTS, SERGIO ARE IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
18:17:59 >> I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT MAYBE HELPING THE MILITARY,
18:18:05 AND I LEARNED LIKE FIRST AID THAT WILL HELP ME.
18:18:06 >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD.
18:18:07 HOW ABOUT YOU?
18:18:10 >> I LEARNED A LOT, LIKE, LIFE SKILLS THAT YOU NEED
18:18:12 LATER ON.
18:18:16 NOT NECESSARILY THINGS I USE NOW BUT LATER ON WHEN I AM
18:18:17 OLDER.
18:18:23 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW BUT SERGIO.
18:18:25 >> SAFETY AND KNOTS.
18:18:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:18:29 ANYTHING FROM THE COUNCILMEMBERS?
18:18:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SERGIO, YOU ARE THE MAN.
18:18:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE IS IN CHARGE.
18:18:38 ALWAYS GOOD WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ACTIVE AND DOING GOOD
18:18:41 THINGS AND BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL.
18:18:41 OKAY.
18:18:44 >> THANK YOU.
18:18:46 >> MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:18:49 MEN, WE ARE ALWAYS HAPPY TO CELEBRATE ANY SCOUT THAT
18:18:52 GETS THEIR EAGLE SCOUT, AND I HOPE TO SEE ALL THREE OF
18:18:56 NEW HERE ONE DAY WHEN WE CAN CELEBRATE YOU BECOMING AN
18:18:57 EAGLE SCOUT.
18:18:59 >> YES, SIR.
18:19:00 [APPLAUSE]
18:19:03 >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING WHICH IS STAY IN THE SCOUTS.
18:19:06 CONTINUE IN SCOUTING AND IN SCOUTING YOU LEARN VERY
18:19:09 GOOD VALUES OF HONORING YOUR FAITH, YOUR FAITH IN GOD,
18:19:13 YOUR BELIEF IN YOUR COUNTRY, PATRIOTISM, YOUR LOVE OF
18:19:14 THIS GREAT COUNTRY, HELPING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, AND
18:19:17 HOW TO BE A BETTER PERSON AND A GOOD PERSON OR
18:19:18 RESPECTFUL PERSON.
18:19:20 I THINK SCOUTING IS A WONDERFUL THING AND THE FACT THAT
18:19:24 ALL THREE OF YOU ALL WANT TO SERVE IN UNIFORM I THINK
18:19:27 REALLY SPEAKS TO THAT, ESPECIALLY YOU, SERGIO.
18:19:28 YOU ARE THE MAN.
18:19:29 THANK YOU, GUYS.
18:19:30 HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
18:19:32 MERRY CHRISTMAS.
18:19:34 THANK YOU.
18:19:39 OKAY, WE BEGIN NOW WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:19:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:19:46 OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS 1-15.
18:19:50 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
18:19:54 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:19:57 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED IN
18:20:01 CITY COUNCIL'S OFFICE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
18:20:06 I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO READ AND FOLLOW.
18:20:12 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND.
18:20:15 >> TWO ITEMS REQUESTING CONTINUOUS.
18:20:25 THOSE ARE ITEMS NUMBER 11 WHICH IS FILE NO. REZ19-92.
18:20:29 THE CORRESPONDING VACATION WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 10.
18:20:38 THE CONTINUOUS REQUEST LETTERS HERE.
18:20:42 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR THESE, DOES MR. GARDNER NEED TO COME
18:20:42 UP?
18:20:44 >>CLERK: YES, SIR.
18:20:49 THE APPLICANT IS HERE 10 AND 11, ASKING A CONTINUOUS TO
18:20:54 THE JANUARY 20 EVENING CITY COUNCIL HEARING AT 6 P.M.
18:20:57 >> TRUETT GARDNER.
18:20:59 OUR FIRST AND HOPEFULLY ONLY CONTINUOUS REQUEST ON
18:21:00 THIS.
18:21:03 IT REALLY RELATES TO THE VACATING.
18:21:06 CSX HAS AN OBJECTION TO IT.
18:21:09 THEY ACTUALLY ARE SELLING THEIR RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH IS
18:21:12 ADJACENT TO IT BUT WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE A GREEN
18:21:14 SPACE AREA TO CONNECT TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
18:21:18 AND THAT NECESSITATED SOME CHANGES IN OUR ZONING SITE
18:21:21 PLAN, AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO RETRACT THE VACATING OF
18:21:25 FIG AND JUST CONTINUE WITH THE VACATING OF CARMEN.
18:21:29 THAT IS AN OVERVIEW OF CHANGES AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
18:21:32 THE JANUARY 16 YEAR-END DATE.
18:21:34 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL?
18:21:38 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC FOR THE CONTINUOUS ON ITEM
18:21:40 NUMBER 10 AND 11?
18:21:41 YES, SIR.
18:21:44 IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO DO SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT
18:21:46 THIS TIME.
18:21:46 OKAY.
18:21:48 MAY I --
18:21:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SEE NONE.
18:21:53 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
18:21:54 >> I AM SO SORRY.
18:21:57 I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SWEAR IN.
18:21:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
18:21:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:22:02 IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM HERE TONIGHT,
18:22:04 PLEASE STAND UP IF YOU WERE ABLE TO DO SO.
18:22:07 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO.
18:22:09 APPEAR TO BE SWORN IN.
18:22:12 >> DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND
18:22:14 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
18:22:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
18:22:17 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
18:22:18 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CONTINUE THESE ITEMS.
18:22:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED MR. CHAIRMAN TO THE DATES
18:22:23 REQUESTED.
18:22:26 AND I FORGET THE -- I COULD HARDLY HEAR.
18:22:30 >>LUIS VIERA: JANUARY 16.
18:22:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JANUARY 16, THE YEAR 2020 AT 6 P.M.
18:22:43 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
18:22:47 BY COUNCILMAN GU DES.
18:22:51 >> ANOTHER ITEM OF CONTINUOUS IS ITEM NUMBER 12.
18:22:53 I HAVE THE PETITION HERE AND THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED
18:22:58 TO SPEAK.
18:23:04 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, HILL, WARD AND HENDERSON.
18:23:06 A CONTINUOUS TO FURTHER REFINE OUR SITE PLAN.
18:23:09 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES TO LOOK AT.
18:23:11 THE OWNER WANTS US TO PRESERVE AS MANY TREES AS
18:23:16 POSSIBLE AND WE HIRED FLORIDA RICKY PETERICA AND DARK
18:23:19 MOSS TO COME IN TO DO HIS ANALYSIS TO MAKE THE
18:23:21 COMMITMENT TO SAVE THE TREES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
18:23:24 MAKE SURE WE CAN REALLY DELIVER ON THAT PROMISE AND WE
18:23:27 ALSO WANT TO DO ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS AND
18:23:28 CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
18:23:30 SO WE REQUEST THIS CONTINUOUS THIS EVENING.
18:23:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:23:35 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON 12 --
18:23:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON 13, YOU MEAN.
18:23:44 >>LUIS VIERA: IT WAS 12.
18:23:47 >> 13 HAS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
18:23:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS.
18:23:52 ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 12 WITH THE CONTINUANCE
18:23:56 ONLY WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD?
18:23:58 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
18:24:02 >> CURIOUS WAS THE DATE AND TIME ANNOUNCED PREVIOUSLY?
18:24:07 >>CLERK: THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUOUS TO THE
18:24:10 JANUARY 16, 2020.
18:24:13 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW DOES THAT LOOK, PRETTY FULL?
18:24:16 >>CLERK: YES, VERY FULL.
18:24:19 >>LUIS VIERA: JANUARY 16.
18:24:24 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
18:24:26 MANISCALCO.
18:24:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THE FOLKS HERE.
18:24:29 ITEM 12.
18:24:31 >>LUIS VIERA: JANUARY 16.
18:24:34 >> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I CAN TO INFORM COUNSEL, IF I
18:24:40 UNDERSTAND THE WAY THIS IS READING SO FAR IT LOOSE LIKE
18:24:44 -- THIS IS THE DECEMBER 3RD CALENDAR.
18:24:46 LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE SO FAR MOSTLY PLAN AMENDMENTS ON
18:24:51 FOR THAT EVENING BEGINNING AT 5:01 P.M. AND 16 IT LOOKS
18:24:56 LIKE BETWEEN ADOPTION AND TRANSMITTAL.
18:24:58 16, PLAN AMENDMENTS.
18:25:02 THEY HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SET BY COUNCIL.
18:25:07 I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
18:25:18 YOU HAVEN'T YET REACHED THE 13 LIMIT.
18:25:20 >> NO, SIR.
18:25:22 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER HOUSEKEEPING?
18:25:24 >> NO, SIR.
18:25:28 >>LUIS VIERA: AND 13.
18:25:30 >> 13 COULD NOT BE HEARD.
18:25:30 SIR?
18:25:32 ITEM NUMBER 13.
18:25:36 >>LUIS VIERA: WAIT, WAIT, DID WE NOT TAKE A VOTE?
18:25:40 >> I DO NOT RECALL VOTE.
18:25:43 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND
18:25:46 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:25:48 ANYONE OPPOSED?
18:25:55 >>CLERK: ITEM NUMBER 13 CANNOT BE HEARD
18:25:59 BECAUSE THEY DID NOT FILE THEIR MOTION AFFIDAVIT.
18:26:02 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO REMOVE?
18:26:03 [INAUDIBLE]
18:26:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I TRUST THAT I -- I OWN PROPERTY
18:26:09 ADJACENT TO THAT PROPERTY.
18:26:12 >>LUIS VIERA: SO I GUESS YOU WILL BE -- YOU WILL BE
18:26:14 NOT VOTING ON THIS ONE.
18:26:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CORRECT.
18:26:18 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
18:26:19 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:26:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:26:25 ANY OPPOSED?
18:26:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHENEVER IT COMES --
18:26:30 >> VOTING TO REMOVE IT?
18:26:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T VOTE EITHER.
18:26:37 >> THIS IS A VOTE TO ABSTAIN.
18:26:40 MADAM CLERK, A MOTION --
18:26:43 >> THE MOTION CARRIED TO REMOVE THE AGENDA ITEM CARRIED
18:26:48 WITH MIRANDA ABSTAINING ON THIS ITEM.
18:26:56 >> MR. MIRANDA I WILL HAVE THAT FORM FOR YOU NEXT WEEK.
18:27:00 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER ONE.
18:27:03 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING
18:27:07 ORGANIZATION.
18:27:10 VAC19-20 AND FILE NO. REZ19-24.
18:27:13 FOR THE ALLEY AND SECOND READING.
18:27:15 THE REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND
18:27:19 SECOND READING AND ARE AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
18:27:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MAN.
18:27:23 >> JIMMY COOK, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
18:27:27 STAFF HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO ITEM NUMBER 1 MOVING
18:27:28 FORWARD.
18:27:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:27:36 >> TRUETT GARDNER, ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF
18:27:36 SALVATION ARMY.
18:27:41 THIS IS OUR SECOND READING ON THE VACATING REQUEST, AND
18:27:45 AFTER TWO FIRST READINGS, OUR SECOND READING ON THE
18:27:46 REZONING REQUEST.
18:27:47 I THINK WE HAVE COVERED EVERYTHING WITH THIS.
18:27:49 BUT WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
18:27:50 HAVE.
18:27:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
18:27:53 OKAY.
18:27:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
18:28:00 ANYBODY HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:28:02 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
18:28:05 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
18:28:08 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
18:28:11 GUDES.
18:28:15 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE TAKING ITEM 1,
18:28:24 SIR?
18:28:28 >>BILL CARLSON: VAC19-20, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
18:28:30 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
18:28:34 AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AN
18:28:37 ABANDONING ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING WEST OF FLORIDA
18:28:41 AVENUE SOUTH OF EAST 7TH AVENUE AND NORTH OF EAST
18:28:44 HENDERSON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
18:28:47 COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
18:28:51 SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT
18:28:57 RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS.
18:28:59 A MOTION AND SECOND.
18:29:00 SECOND READING.
18:29:06 >> ROLL CALL VOTE.
18:29:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:29:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:29:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:29:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:29:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:29:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:29:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:29:23 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, THANK YOU.
18:29:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:29:26 MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
18:29:29 ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
18:29:31 >> I BELIEVE MARY COVERED ON THIS.
18:29:34 THE SITE PLAN ALL REVISIONS WERE MADE AND AGAIN HAPPY
18:29:36 TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
18:29:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:29:41 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY.
18:29:42 FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT.
18:29:45 ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 2 COME FORWARD.
18:29:47 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:29:48 WHO WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT.
18:29:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
18:29:53 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
18:29:54 TAKE ITEM NUMBER 2.
18:29:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NO. REZ19-24, ORDINANCE
18:30:03 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1603 NORTH
18:30:06 FLORIDA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
18:30:08 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
18:30:12 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO RM
18:30:17 24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
18:30:18 BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND EMERGENCY SHELTER
18:30:21 FACILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:30:25 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY
18:30:26 MANISCALCO.
18:30:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:30:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:30:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:30:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:30:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:30:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:30:36 >> THANK YOU.
18:30:39 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
18:30:40 >> TRUE.
18:30:46 WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
18:30:47 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
18:30:51 AN AMENDED HEARINGS IN OCTOBER FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
18:30:59 AT 1101 AND 115 EAST HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AVENUE FROM
18:31:03 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO SEMINOLE
18:31:06 HEIGHTS, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AIR CONDITIONING STORAGE
18:31:08 WITH A BONUS AGREEMENT.
18:31:11 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:31:13 I AM DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
18:31:15 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:31:18 THE FIRST CASE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
18:31:22 PLANNING DISTRICT MORE SPECIFICALLY THE SEMINOLE
18:31:25 HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
18:31:33 DUE TO THE UNDERLYING FEW LAND USE DESIGNATION
18:31:36 WITHIN THE CORRIDOR AND ALSO A TRANSIT
18:31:39 EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
18:31:45 POLICY DIRECTION FOR THOSE CORRIDOR WHAT DEVELOPMENT IS
18:31:47 ON THOSE QUARTERS.
18:31:51 TRANSIT ON THIS PORTION OF EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
18:31:55 CONNECTS THE SUBJECT SITE TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THAT
18:31:58 PARK AND THE UNIVERSITY AREA TRANSIT CENTER.
18:32:01 THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
18:32:03 ON TO THE AERIAL.
18:32:05 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:32:06 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
18:32:11 THIS IS THE INTERCHANGE WITH 275.
18:32:14 GIBBONS PARK IS TO THE REAR.
18:32:17 THIS PORTION OF HILLSBOROUGH HAS A NUMBER OF INTENSIVE
18:32:22 USES ON IT AND YOU GET PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY
18:32:23 DETACHED TO THE SOUTH.
18:32:27 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SITE
18:32:31 AND ALL THE PROPERTIES TO THE RED IN THE EAST AND WEST
18:32:34 IS THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
18:32:40 THERE IS RELATION 20 FURTHER DOWN GIBBS BONS AVENUE TO
18:32:43 THE EAST REPRESENTED BY THE BROWN.
18:32:45 IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IS THE PARK AND THE PROPERTIES
18:32:50 TO THE SOUTH IS ALL THIS RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE
18:32:53 WHICH IS THE TAN COLOR AND YOU GET SOME COMMUNITY MIXED
18:32:57 USE 35 ON NEBRASKA AVENUE AND TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE
18:33:01 REPRESENTED BY THE PINK.
18:33:05 THE -- THE PROJECT SITE IS WITHIN, AGAIN, THAT SEMINOLE
18:33:07 HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
18:33:11 THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING THE ADDITIONAL INTENSITY
18:33:14 BONUS THROUGH THE AGREEMENT THROUGH THE CITY'S LEGAL
18:33:18 DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL 27,485 SQUARE FEET OF
18:33:19 INTENSITY.
18:33:23 THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT TYPICALLY COMMITTED FOR
18:33:30 STRUCTURE UNDER THE COMMUNITY 35 COMMERCIAL USE IS
18:33:34 54,856 SQUARE FEET.
18:33:39 DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE SITE PLAN.
18:33:42 THIS IS THE -- THE SITE IS WITHIN IDENTIFIED ACTIVITY
18:33:46 CENTER WITHIN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
18:33:48 AND BASED ON THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THAT
18:33:52 THE ADDITIONAL INTENSITY IS APPROPRIATE AND COMPATIBLE
18:33:55 WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOUND ALONG THAT
18:33:56 PORKS OF EAST HILLSBOROUGH.
18:34:00 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO RECOGNIZES EAST
18:34:04 HILLSBOROUGH AS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS BOARD DEER AND MIXED
18:34:05 USE CORRIDOR.
18:34:08 WHILE THE PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE
18:34:11 COMMERCIAL 35 CATEGORY, THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF THE
18:34:15 SITE IS INCONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL OF THE POLICY THAT'S
18:34:17 GUIDE DEVELOPMENT AND MIXED USE CORRIDORS.
18:34:19 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES REDEVELOPMENT PATTERNS
18:34:25 AND STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT TRANSFORMS THE VISUAL
18:34:28 AND CHARACTERS OF MIXED USE CORRIDORS BY PLACING
18:34:31 PARKING IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, ORIENTED BUILDINGS
18:34:36 TO THE STREET AND PLACING BUILDINGS CLOSE -- YES, CLOSE
18:34:37 TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
18:34:40 YOU NEED THE BUILDING UP TO -- THE PROPOSED PLANNED
18:34:43 DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A THREE-STORY BUILDING LOCATED TO
18:34:47 THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, CLOSER TO THE EXISTING PARK
18:34:50 TO THE SOUTH AND TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT'S
18:34:51 ADJOIN THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
18:34:56 FURTHERMORE, THE BUILDING IS NOT ORIENTED WITH EAST
18:34:56 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
18:34:59 AND THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING IS AT THE FRONT OF THE
18:35:00 BUILDING.
18:35:03 THIS DESIGN IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION
18:35:07 AND THE MIXED USE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS SECTION OF THE
18:35:10 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THOSE POLICIES ARE LISTED IN
18:35:12 YOUR REPORT FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
18:35:15 IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE
18:35:18 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON THIS PORTION OF EAST
18:35:22 HILLSBOROUGH AND COMMUNITY 35; HOWEVER, THE DESIGN IS
18:35:26 INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES REGARD DEVELOPMENT AND
18:35:28 PLACED ON THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS
18:35:30 RECOMMENDING TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THIS PROPOSED
18:35:33 REZONING BE FOUND INCONSISTENT.
18:35:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:35:35 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
18:35:40 THANK YOU, MR. HEY.
18:35:44 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN,
18:35:47 PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN COORDINATION.
18:35:50 AS I STATED THIS WAS AN APPLICATION BROUGHT BEFORE YOU
18:35:52 AT YOUR OCTOBER 10 HEARING.
18:35:54 AT THAT MEETING, YOU RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE
18:35:59 PUBLIC, AS WELL AS INTERNAL DISCUSSION AMONG CITY
18:36:01 COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THE APPLICANT WENT BY AND AMENDED
18:36:04 THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE A USE.
18:36:07 THAT USE BEING PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY AND ALSO
18:36:11 MOVED ONE OF THE TWO BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH.
18:36:14 SO THIS IS NOW THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN THAT IS BEFORE
18:36:16 YOU THIS EVENING FOR ADOPTION.
18:36:19 BUILDING A IS IN THE SAME LOCATION IT WAS PREVIOUSLY
18:36:24 WHEN YOU SAW IT IN OCTOBER.
18:36:28 AND BUILDING B TO THE SOUTH NO LONGER FRONTS ON
18:36:31 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND THE PARKING LOT ON THE CORNER
18:36:32 OF HILLSBOROUGH AND 12TH.
18:36:36 THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME.
18:36:38 AS FAR AS OVERALL WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUIRED NOW, THERE
18:36:41 IS AN ADDITIONAL WAIVER THAT WAS NOW REQUIRED THAT WAS
18:36:45 NOT ON THE PREVIOUS VERSION TO URBAN DESIGN CRITERIA
18:36:52 2711.6 C TO ALLOW BUILDING B TO BE LOCATED 94 FEET FROM
18:36:57 THE PROPERTY LINE IN LIEU OF THE BUILD TO LINE FOR
18:36:58 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
18:37:04 ANOTHER IS TO REDUCE THE PARKING DOWN TO 23 PARKING
18:37:05 SPACES.
18:37:09 THAT PARKING SPACE REDUCTION HAS INCONSISTENT FINDING
18:37:11 FROM TRANSPORTATION.
18:37:17 THE BUILD-TO LINE WAIVER FROM 94 FEET FROM 10 HAS
18:37:20 INCONSISTENCY FINDING FROM URBAN DESIGN.
18:37:24 THE THIRD WAIVER THE APPLICANT IS ASKING IS TO ALLOW
18:37:28 FOR ALL SPACES TO BE 12 X 30.
18:37:30 AND THEN THE LAST WAIVER ON THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE
18:37:35 PLAN IS TO ALLOW TWO WAIVERS TO THE ALLOWABLE BUILDING
18:37:38 SIGNS ON THE SITE FOR WHICH STAFF DID FIND THAT
18:37:40 CONSISTENT.
18:37:42 IF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS APPLICATION THIS
18:37:46 EVENING, THERE ARE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
18:37:48 READING THAT YOU CAN FIND IN THE STAFF REPORT.
18:37:52 AGAIN, THE URBAN DESIGN FOUND IN INCONSISTENT BECAUSE
18:37:55 OF THE BUILDING PLACEMENT OF BUILDING B, AND THE
18:37:58 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT
18:38:01 BECAUSE OF THE 45% WAIVER REDUCTION REQUEST.
18:38:06 AND THERE IS SOME MINOR CHANGES FROM NATURAL RESOURCES
18:38:10 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING; HOWEVER, THEY DID
18:38:12 FIND IT CONSISTENT.
18:38:15 OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF DID FIND THIS
18:38:18 INCONSISTENT BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE PARKING WAIVER AND THE
18:38:20 BUILD-TO LINE NEIGHBOR.
18:38:22 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
18:38:25 IF NOT, REBECCA KERT HAS AN UPDATE REGARDING THE
18:38:30 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL.
18:38:32 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
18:38:34 MISS KERT.
18:38:38 >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT.
18:38:40 A SUBSTITUTE BONUS AGREEMENT.
18:38:43 THE CHANGE BETWEEN THIS AND THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS A
18:38:46 CHANGE IN THE IMPROVEMENT TO WHICH THE MONEY WILL BE
18:38:47 SPENT.
18:38:50 IT WILL NOW BE SPENT ON THE GREEN ARTERY PERIMETER
18:38:51 TRAIL.
18:38:54 IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS EXACTLY WHAT THAT IMPROVEMENT IS,
18:38:56 THE APPLICANT CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU.
18:38:59 BUT I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF THIS DOES GO
18:39:02 FORWARD ON FIRST READING THAT SECOND READING, YOU WILL
18:39:05 HAVE THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT TO CONSIDER.
18:39:06 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS.
18:39:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH, WHAT IS THAT?
18:39:11 >> THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU MORE FULLY
18:39:13 WHAT THAT IMPROVEMENT IS.
18:39:16 BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IT WAS CHANGED BETWEEN THE
18:39:19 LAST TIME THEY WERE HERE.
18:39:21 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
18:39:21 YES, SIR.
18:39:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM SEARCHING MY -- ALL THE
18:39:24 PAPERS.
18:39:28 WAS THIS CONSISTENT THE FIRST TIME?
18:39:29 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK IT SWITCHED.
18:39:37 I BELIEVE IT DID.
18:39:39 >> I BELIEVE IT WAS CONSISTENT.
18:39:43 YES, I BELIEVE IT WAS CONSISTENT.
18:39:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
18:39:46 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
18:39:47 OKAY.
18:39:50 APPLICANT.
18:39:53 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
18:39:55 MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.
18:39:58 MY ADDRESS IS SUITE 3700.
18:40:02 I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING SAFEGUARD STORAGE,
18:40:05 AND I AM JOINED BY THE VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT TO
18:40:06 MY LEFT.
18:40:09 ALSO OUR CIVIL ENGINEER WILL DAVID BELL AND OUR
18:40:14 TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING, MR. MICHAEL YATES.
18:40:17 TO REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION WHEN WE WERE CONTINUED,
18:40:19 YOU WANTED US TO ADDRESS THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING
18:40:21 PRIMARILY AND SHIFT THE PARKING TO THE FRONT AND THE
18:40:23 BUILDING TO THE REAR.
18:40:27 THAT WOULD REQUIRE A WAIVER FROM THE DESIGN GUIDELINES
18:40:31 OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THAT REQUIRE THE PARKING BE TO THE
18:40:31 REAR.
18:40:33 WE ARE ASKING FOR A NEW WAIVER THIS EVENING TO ADDRESS
18:40:36 MR. DINGFELDER'S REQUEST THAT WE REPOSITION THE
18:40:37 BUILDING.
18:40:38 WE HAVE DONE THAT.
18:40:42 WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A 1200-SQUARE-FOOT COMMUNITY
18:40:45 CENTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THE BUILDING.
18:40:51 WE HAVE ALSO MOVED THE BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE A TREE.
18:40:56 WE HAVE DELETED THE 12TH STREET ENTRANCE AND EXIT WHICH
18:40:59 WAS A CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NO LONGER A
18:41:03 WAIVER FOR THE LOCAL ROAD ENTRANCE AND EXIT.
18:41:04 THAT WAIVER IS GONE.
18:41:07 WE HAVE REVISED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
18:41:11 THE CONSIDERATION TO THE CITY REMAINS THE SAME.
18:41:13 $184,000.
18:41:16 HOWEVER THE IMPROVEMENT HAS BEEN MOVED ABOUT A BLOCK
18:41:20 FURTHER TOWARD THE PROJECT FROM 34TH STREET, AND THIS
18:41:23 IS -- INCLUDES WHAT IS CALLED THE GREEN ARTERY PROGRAM
18:41:26 OF THE CITY.
18:41:29 FAY, A CITY REPRESENTATIVE, IS HERE TO EXPLAIN THE
18:41:31 GREEN ARTERY PROGRAM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO HER
18:41:32 ABOUT THAT.
18:41:34 BUT THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL
18:41:37 BE SPENT ON THAT IMPROVEMENT.
18:41:44 IN SUM ROW, WE HAVE HEARD YOUR CONCERNS AND HEARD THE
18:41:47 CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBOR AND CAME BACK WITH A REVISED
18:41:49 SITE PLAN.
18:41:52 ALL THE REVISIONS BY MISS MARY SAMANIEGO ARE ACCEPTABLE
18:41:55 TO US AND WE WILL PROVIDE THOSE PROVISIONS ON A
18:41:57 SEPARATE REVISED PLAN.
18:42:01 WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
18:42:08 APPROVAL IN EVENING AND RESERVE THE REMAINDER OF MY
18:42:09 REBUTTAL FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:42:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE GREEN
18:42:17 ARTERY.
18:42:20 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT, MR. GRANDOFF OR
18:42:22 CLIENT, MISS KERT?
18:42:26 >> I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT IS A PROPOSED 22-MILE TRAIL
18:42:29 CONNECTING CITY PARKS AND A MULTIMODAL TRAIL.
18:42:32 AND THE PORTION THAT WILL BE -- THE FUNDING WILL GO TO
18:42:37 WILL BE INSIDE THE -- THE MULTIMODAL ZONE FOR EAST
18:42:40 TAMPA AND CLOSER TO THE PROJECT.
18:42:42 BEYOND THAT, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN
18:42:45 THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT.
18:42:51 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
18:42:57 >> MR. GUDES, AGREEMENT SAYS SHOULD BE USED FOR THE
18:43:00 CITY'S GREEN PERIMETER TRAIL A PORTION LOCATED IN THE
18:43:04 EAST TAMPA ZONE AND PROVIDES A MULTIMODAL PERIMETER
18:43:09 CONNECTION THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
18:43:11 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
18:43:12 OKAY.
18:43:15 IS ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM
18:43:16 NUMBER 3?
18:43:18 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
18:43:19 COME FORWARD, SIR.
18:43:22 ANYONE ELSE HERE TO COMMENT ON 3?
18:43:24 ANY OTHER THAN THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS?
18:43:24 ANYBODY ELSE?
18:43:27 OKAY, GO AHEAD.
18:43:28 >> GOOD EVENING, MIKE MARINO.
18:43:31 4805 NORTH FREMONT AVENUE IN TAMPA.
18:43:36 TEN YEARS AGO, I WAS A RESTAURANT OWNER IN SEMINOLE
18:43:37 HEIGHTS.
18:43:41 I WAS A LITTLE TOO EARLY FOR ALL THE NEW ERUPTION OF
18:43:43 BUSINESS THAT IS OCCURRING THERE.
18:43:47 AND LAST WEEK -- I MEAN LAST -- IN OCTOBER, I HAPPENED
18:43:51 TO BE WATCHING THIS PARTICULAR SHOW -- I AM GOING TO
18:43:52 CALL IT A SHOW --
18:43:52 [ LAUGHTER ]
18:43:55 -- IS THAT PROPER?
18:43:56 I DON'T KNOW.
18:43:57 ANYWAY.
18:44:01 I WAS KIND OF TAKEN ABACK BY SOME OF THE OBJECTIONS FOR
18:44:06 THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING CONSTRUCTION.
18:44:09 I HAVE -- TO ADD TO THAT, I HAVE A LITTLE COMPANY
18:44:11 CALLED MARINO AND SON.
18:44:15 WE DO A LITTLE HOME MAKEOVERS AND CLEANUPS AND THINGS
18:44:17 OF THAT NATURE.
18:44:20 I WAS HIRED BY OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY TO GO AND TAKE A
18:44:23 LOOK AT IT, SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SPICE IT UP
18:44:24 AND SPRUCE UP.
18:44:25 AND I WAS APPALLED.
18:44:29 ACROSS THE STREET, OF COURSE, THE COPS WERE AT THE
18:44:31 MOTEL TAKING SOMEBODY TO JAIL.
18:44:34 AND WHEN WE PULLED IN WITH OUR TRAILER, THERE WERE
18:44:37 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE BACK -- THE CORNER OF THE
18:44:38 BUILDING.
18:44:42 THEY HAD -- AND THE URINE SMELLS WERE JUST ATROCIOUS.
18:44:44 AND IT WAS A TOUGH DAY, TO SAY THE LEAST.
18:44:48 SO WE EARNED OUR MONEY.
18:44:52 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS NOW AS WE ALL KNOW COMING ALIVE.
18:44:56 AND THAT PARTICULAR THOROUGHFARE, THAT HILLSBOROUGH
18:45:00 AVENUE IS STILL A TOUGH SECTION.
18:45:03 IT NEEDS EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IT CAN TO START
18:45:05 BUILDING, YOU KNOW, GOOD THINGS.
18:45:08 EVEN THOUGH -- THE STORAGE MIGHT NOT BE THE GREATEST
18:45:12 THING THAT IS MAKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAPPY, BUT IT'S A
18:45:15 POSITIVE IMPRINT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:45:17 AND I THINK WHAT IT WOULD DO, IT WILL CAUSE OTHER
18:45:21 BUSINESS OWNERS TO SAY, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO INVEST
18:45:24 IN THAT SECTOR, I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
18:45:26 START LOOKING DEEPER INTO IT.
18:45:32 SO TONIGHT, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU WITH YOUR SHOW
18:45:35 APPROVE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
18:45:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:45:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:45:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE DON'T KNOW A REALITY SHOW OR A
18:45:41 COMEDY SHOW.
18:45:45 >> JUST APPROVE IT AND FORGET ABOUT IT.
18:45:46 >>LUIS VIERA: ONE OTHER INDIVIDUAL?
18:45:50 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
18:45:55 >> MY NAME IS FAY MILLER AT 73 TAN PARK DRIVE.
18:45:59 THE GREEN ARTERY TRAIL IS A 22-MILE TRAIL THAT GOES
18:46:04 AROUND THE CITY FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THROUGH SULPHUR
18:46:08 SPRINGS, RIVERWALK, YOU KNOW, THROUGH YBOR EAST, DOWN
18:46:13 THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY AND GO BACK TO THE 22ND
18:46:19 STREET PARK, BACK OVER SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AGAIN ONE BIG
18:46:19 LOOP.
18:46:23 I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT YESTERDAY, AND SO -- I
18:46:26 UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS NOT IN
18:46:29 FAVOR OF IT INITIALLY BUT THEY HAVE MADE -- COME TO AN
18:46:32 AGREEMENT AND THEY ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF IT NOW.
18:46:36 THE GREEN ARTERY IS -- IS IN FAVOR OF THAT TRAIL -- I
18:46:39 MEAN IN FAVOR OF THE BUILDING GOING FORWARD.
18:46:41 AND WE ARE DELIGHTED, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE APPROVED
18:46:45 FOR THE -- FOR THE BONUS OF THE PROJECT.
18:46:47 BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAIL, I
18:46:49 WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
18:46:51 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL -- IT IS GOING TO BE AN EXTREMELY
18:46:55 BEAUTIFUL TRAIL GOING ALONG THE RIVER AND THROUGH, YOU
18:47:02 KNOW, THE CITY FOLLOWING THE RIVER AND THE RIVERWALK,
18:47:06 AND THEN COMING BACK THROUGH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND EAST
18:47:06 TAMPA.
18:47:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:47:09 ANY QUESTIONS FOR?
18:47:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
18:47:12 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
18:47:13 THANK YOU.
18:47:16 ANYONE ELSE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 3?
18:47:21 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
18:47:23 MA'AM?
18:47:24 >> MARY SAMANIEGO.
18:47:28 JUST TO CLARIFY THE RECORD, SOMETHING THAT MR. MIRANDA
18:47:29 ASKED EARLIER.
18:47:32 WHEN PREVIOUS SITE PLAN CAME FORWARD ON THE OCTOBER
18:47:36 MEETING, THERE WAS A INCONSISTENCY FROM TRANSPORTATION.
18:47:41 A PARKING WAIVER AND ACCESS TO A LOCAL OR COMMERCIAL
18:47:41 TRAFFIC.
18:47:46 AND THE CURRENT PLAN STILL HAS INCONSISTENCY FINDING
18:47:49 FROM TRANSPORTATION AND NOW URBAN DESIGN AS WELL AS THE
18:47:50 PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:47:53 I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE RECORD.
18:47:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
18:47:55 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:47:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
18:48:01 MR. GRANDOFF, I -- I THINK WE ALL RECALL THERE WERE
18:48:06 QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORS HERE IN OPPOSITION LAST TIME FROM
18:48:09 THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA THERE.
18:48:15 IN ADDITION TO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON CHANGES YOU MADE ON
18:48:16 THE SITE PLAN.
18:48:18 DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM IN THE INTERIM.
18:48:21 IT DOESN'T APPEAR THEY ARE HERE.
18:48:25 >> MR. BONILLA DID WITH SAFEGUARD.
18:48:28 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO MR. BONILLA.
18:48:31 >> GOOD EVENING, STANLEY BONILLA.
18:48:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WERE SWORN.
18:48:35 >> I WAS SWORN IN.
18:48:38 SO, YES, I HAVE SPOKEN TO A NUMBER OF THE COMMUNITY
18:48:39 RESIDENTS.
18:48:44 I SPOKE WITH STAN LASSITER SEVERAL TIME.
18:48:47 I SPOKE WITH -- IF YOU REMEMBER, THE CONCERN INITIALLY
18:48:50 FOR THE BUILDING PLACEMENT WAS THE SHOT ACROSS THE
18:48:52 STREET ON 12TH STREET.
18:48:55 THERE WAS THE PAWN SHOP THERE.
18:48:58 HE HAS -- HE IS FACING 12TH STREET, SO BY BUILDING TO
18:49:00 THE PROPERTY LINE, HE WAS BLOCKED.
18:49:01 I WENT TO HIS SHOP.
18:49:06 I MET WITH HIM THE DAY I WENT AND MET WITH THE STAFF
18:49:08 HERE, SHOWED HIM THE NEW PLAN.
18:49:09 HE WAS VERY HAPPY.
18:49:12 I ACTUALLY HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM HIM SAYING THANK YOU
18:49:16 VERY MUCH FOR SHOWING -- THINKING OF US AND WORKING
18:49:17 WITH US.
18:49:20 WHEN I FIRST MET WITH HIM, I PROMISED TO CONTINUE
18:49:21 COMMUNICATING WITH HIM.
18:49:22 WE DID THAT.
18:49:25 AND I THINK THE PLAN WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER
18:49:26 ULTIMATELY IS BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.
18:49:28 BETTER FOR HIM.
18:49:30 FUNCTIONS BETTER FOR SAFEGUARD.
18:49:33 WE STILL HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN THERE, WHICH WE
18:49:36 ARE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT.
18:49:40 SO ULTIMATELY, WE DID SPEAK WITH A NUMBER OF THE
18:49:41 NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE.
18:49:44 AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE.
18:49:48 WHEN I SPOKE WITH STAN YESTERDAY, HE STATED THAT THEY
18:49:49 WERE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
18:49:51 HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT.
18:49:54 AND I GUESS SINCE THEY WEREN'T OPPOSING IT, NOBODY ELSE
18:49:56 SHOWED UP EITHER.
18:49:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:49:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
18:50:00 ANYONE ELSE?
18:50:03 >> WE ALSO RENOTICED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REPOSTED
18:50:05 THREE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY ANNOUNCING THIS HEARING
18:50:08 THIS EVENING.
18:50:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY, I GUESS, REBUTTAL?
18:50:14 >> I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.
18:50:16 WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS SEASON.
18:50:19 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
18:50:19 >> CLOSE.
18:50:22 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO SECOND BY
18:50:24 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:50:26 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
18:50:29 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
18:50:33 >> JUST A REMINDER ON THIS ONE NUMBER THREE IS THE
18:50:36 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION WILL BE HELD
18:50:37 FOR THE SECOND READING.
18:50:39 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE CLERK'S OFFICE WAS MADE AWARE
18:50:43 THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE TO THE SUBSTITUTE
18:50:44 ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE WALKED ON.
18:50:47 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS STILL THE CASE.
18:50:48 >> DO YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR POSSESSION?
18:50:50 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE IT.
18:50:53 SANDY MARSHAL RECEIVED AN E-MAIL OF THAT EFFECT FROM
18:50:56 LEGAL.
18:50:59 >> REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
18:51:01 A SUBSTITUTE TO THE REVISED AGREEMENT, NOT THE
18:51:05 ORDINANCE, THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
18:51:09 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
18:51:11 >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO READ.
18:51:15 I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE PETITIONER FOR WORKING WITH
18:51:18 THE PEOPLE AND GOING TO CHANGE THE NEEDS THAT THEY
18:51:18 HAVE.
18:51:23 SUBSTANTIVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED REZONING PROPERTY
18:51:29 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1101 AND 1115 EAST
18:51:31 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
18:51:34 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
18:51:39 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-CI SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
18:51:43 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO SH-PD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED
18:51:46 DEVELOPMENT, AIR-CONDITIONED STORAGE AND PRIVATE
18:51:48 RECREATIONAL FACILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
18:51:51 INCLUDING WAIVERS AND A RESOLUTION WILL BE SET FORTH
18:51:52 FOR A SECOND READING.
18:51:55 AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF.
18:52:00 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:52:01 SECOND BY MIRANDA.
18:52:02 ANY OPPOSED.
18:52:07 >> THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER -- CORRECTION.
18:52:11 THE MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND MANISCALCO VOTING AND
18:52:14 VIERA VOTING NO.
18:52:18 ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
18:52:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AYE ON THE MOTION.
18:52:21 YES.
18:52:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
18:52:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
18:52:25 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
18:52:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:52:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:52:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:52:33 >> AGAIN THE MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES, MANISCALCO AND
18:52:34 VIERA VOTING NO.
18:52:38 SECOND READING AT ADOPTION WILL BE ON JANUARY 9 AT 9:30
18:52:45 A.M.
18:52:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:52:48 ITEM NUMBER 4.
18:52:54 >> RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.
18:52:59 FOR FILE NO. REZ19-88.
18:53:04 611 AND 613 DANUBE AVENUE.
18:53:06 AND I WILL PASS THIS OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:53:10 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
18:53:12 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING STAFF.
18:53:13 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:53:18 WE REMAIN IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANS DISTRICT STRICT.
18:53:23 THE DAVIS ISLAND URBAN VILLAGE.
18:53:27 THE -- THE SUBJECT SITE IS TRANSIT UP NEAR THE
18:53:29 HOSPITAL.
18:53:32 THAT IS SERVED BY HART'S ROUTE 19.
18:53:35 IT IS ON DAVIS ISLAND SO WITHIN A LEVEL A EVACUATION
18:53:39 ZONE AND WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND THE
18:53:44 CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY TO THIS RESIDENTIAL
18:53:47 USE WILL BE DAVIS ISLAND PARK WHICH IS .6 MILES TO THE
18:53:50 NORTH.
18:53:51 ON TO THE AERIAL.
18:53:53 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:53:58 WE HAVE PREDOMINANTLY A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PATTERN
18:54:00 DOWN AT THIS END.
18:54:04 THIS IS PETER O. KNIGHT AIRPORT AND PORT ACTIVITY
18:54:05 FURTHER TO THE EAST.
18:54:11 THE COMMERCIAL CORE OF DAVIS ISLAND IS LOCATED TO THE
18:54:15 NORTH UP HERE.
18:54:20 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
18:54:22 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:54:25 THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT IN
18:54:28 THAT TAN COLOR ARE ALL THAT RESIDENTIAL 10.
18:54:32 THE AIRPORT TO THE SOUTH IS THE QUASI -- THE PUBLIC
18:54:33 QUASI REPRESENTED BY THE BLUE.
18:54:38 WE HAVE A LESS DENSE CATEGORY OF RES-6 REPRESENTED BY
18:54:39 THE YELLOW TO THE WEST.
18:54:43 AND YOU CAN SEE SOME ACTUAL HIGHER DENSITIES, RES 20,
18:54:48 RES-25 IN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 REPRESENTING THE
18:54:53 SCORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:54:56 -- THE CORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:54:59 THE APPLICANTS IS REQUESTING GOING TO THE RESIDENTIAL
18:55:03 FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY
18:55:06 DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR
18:55:09 COMPATIBLE INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN AN AREA THAT IS
18:55:12 PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UP TO TEN DWELLING
18:55:16 UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON THAT RESIDENTIAL 10.
18:55:19 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE
18:55:22 DENSITY WITHIN THE AREA.
18:55:27 RESIDENTIALLY DEVELOPED PARCELS FRONTING DANUBE AVENUE
18:55:34 BETWEEN CAYUGA AVENUE AND HUDSON AVENUE, 5.26 UNITS PER
18:55:34 ACRE.
18:55:37 THE SUBJECT SITE WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS BEING
18:55:40 PROPOSED WOULD BE DEVELOPED AT A DENSITY OF 6.25 UNITS
18:55:42 PER ACRE.
18:55:44 PROPOSED DENSITY WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT
18:55:46 RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
18:55:51 BASED ON THAT, STAFF FOUND THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD
18:55:56 BE OF A SIMILAR FORM, HEIGHT, SCALE AND LOT PATTERN OF
18:55:59 THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES AND BASED ON THAT,
18:56:01 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDS TO YOU THIS
18:56:06 EVENING THAT THIS BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE
18:56:09 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:56:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:56:10 ANY QUESTIONS?
18:56:11 THANK YOU.
18:56:15 >> RYAN MANASSE WITH PLANNING.
18:56:18 ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS BEFORE YOU A EUCLIDIAN REZONING
18:56:22 FROM R-60 TO RS-50.
18:56:25 THROUGH THIS PROCESS WAIVERS MAY NOT BE REQUESTED AS
18:56:26 PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
18:56:28 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM
18:56:34 R-60 TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO ALLOW FOR DETACHED
18:56:36 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
18:56:40 TWO PLATTED LOTS, LOTS 9 AND 10 OF BLOCK 9 OF DAVIS
18:56:42 ISLAND COUNTRY CLUB SECTION.
18:56:48 LOT 9 IS 50 X 134 WHICH EQUALS 6700 SQUARE FEET AND
18:56:52 LOT 10 IS 55 X 137, 5,535.
18:56:57 TOTAL SITE AREA OF 14,235 SQUARE FEET.
18:57:01 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT, AND IT IS LOCATED SIX
18:57:09 LOTS TO THE SOUTH OF DANUBE AVENUE AND CAYUGA AVENUE
18:57:10 INTERSECTION.
18:57:13 SURROUNDED BY DETACHED TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND
18:57:16 WEST AND RS-60 ZONING.
18:57:18 DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL CITY OF TAMPA
18:57:21 REGULATIONS AT TIME OF PERMITTING.
18:57:24 I PUT THE AERIAL MAP TO GIVE YOU A VICINITY OF THE AREA
18:57:26 AS I GO TO THE NEXT PART.
18:57:31 POLICY 9.3.8 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES STATE THAT
18:57:33 THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT
18:57:36 PATTERN AND CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND
18:57:40 REQUIRED MITIGATION OF NEGATIVE OFFSITE IMPACTS.
18:57:43 THE DAVIS ISLANDS, THE COUNTRY CLUB SUBDIVISION WAS
18:57:46 ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1925 WITH LOTS THAT RANGED IN
18:57:50 WIDTH FROM 40 FEET TO 97 FEET WITH THE AVERAGE LOT
18:57:55 WIDTH OF 50 FEET AND DEPTH FROM 109 TO 217 FEET.
18:57:58 THIS SECTION OF THE DAVIS ISLAND SUBDIVISION CONTAINS
18:57:59 17 BLOCKS.
18:58:01 THE SUBSECTIONS -- THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON
18:58:05 BLOCK 9 OF THE SUBDIVISION ON LOTS 9 AND 10.
18:58:08 THE SUBJECT -- THE SUBJECT APPLICATION SEEKS TO
18:58:11 RE-ESTABLISH THE ORIGINAL PLOTTED LOTS TO CREATE TWO
18:58:16 BUILDABLE LOTS.
18:58:19 THE OVERALL AREA THE ANALYSIS INCLUDES PORTIONS OF
18:58:21 DAVIS ISLAND'S PLAT.
18:58:25 THE OVERALL AREA OF THE ANALYSIS 117 TOTAL ZONING LOTS
18:58:28 WHICH WERE DEVELOPED PARCELS, 59 OR 50% OF THESE LOTS
18:58:32 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER
18:58:36 AND 58% -- SORRY, 58 LOTS OR 50% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED
18:58:39 WITH THE WIDTH OF 59.99 OR LESS.
18:58:42 AND THOSE ARE TYPICALLY, HISTORICALLY PLATTED LOTS.
18:58:45 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
18:58:49 PATTERN, THE SUBJECT BLOCK 26 TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
18:58:52 NINE OR 35% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
18:58:57 WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND 17 LOTS OR 65% HAVE
18:59:01 BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
18:59:06 AND, AGAIN, THAT IS TYPICALLY HISTORICAL PLATTED LOT.
18:59:10 THE 600 BLOCK OF WEST PAXTON AVENUE ON BOTH SIDES OF
18:59:14 THE STREET CONTAIN 23 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 12 OR 52% OF
18:59:17 THEM HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET FOR
18:59:21 GREATER OR 11 OR 48% OF THEM DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTHS OF
18:59:24 59.99% OR LESS.
18:59:27 A TOTAL OF 77% OF THE TOTAL BLOCK HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED
18:59:30 WITH 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
18:59:33 THROUGH THESE -- THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS, STAFF DID FIND
18:59:36 THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO REZONE CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING
18:59:38 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
18:59:41 HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES.
18:59:44 IT NONE WITHIN 1,000 FEET AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU
18:59:47 A FEW STAFF PHOTOS FROM THE AREA.
18:59:50 THESE ARE GOING BACK TO THE AERIAL -- I WILL GO
18:59:51 CLOCKED.
18:59:53 WISE PATTERN IN THIS AREA.
18:59:56 -- CLOCKWISE PATTERN IN THIS AREA.
18:59:59 THE SUBJECT SITE 611 AND 613.
19:00:03 THIS IS GOING SOUTHEAST, 6:15.
19:00:05 616.
19:00:08 612.
19:00:10 GOING NORTHWEST ACROSS.
19:00:11 610.
19:00:14 608.
19:00:16 603.
19:00:18 605.
19:00:21 AND 609.
19:00:25 AGAIN, STAFF DID FIND THIS -- THIS REZONING CONSISTENT
19:00:28 AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
19:00:29 HAVE.
19:00:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:00:32 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:00:34 OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
19:00:41 APPLICANT?
19:00:43 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
19:00:48 STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING MARC MOBLEY ON 611 AND 613
19:00:51 DANUBE.
19:00:53 AS STAFF POINTED OUT THEY COMPLETED THEIR REVIEW AND
19:00:56 THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF BOTH FOUND IT
19:00:57 CONSISTENT.
19:01:00 THIS PARTICULAR END OF DAVIS ISLAND IS MORE TYPICAL OF
19:01:04 A SMALLER LOTS, AND THERE IS A MIXED DEVELOPMENT
19:01:07 PATTERN, BUT MOST OF THEM SEEM TO BE DEVELOPED ON
19:01:10 50-FOOT LOTS AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED OUT.
19:01:14 77% OF THE BLOCK FACE IS DEVELOPED.
19:01:17 50% -- ARE 50-FOOT LOTS.
19:01:20 THESE ARE UNUSUAL LOTS THAT THEY ARE EXTREMELY DEEP.
19:01:25 THEY ARE 134 AND 137 FEET DEEP RESPECTIVELY.
19:01:29 AND WHEN WE WENT -- WENT AROUND, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
19:01:31 -- ANY COMMENTS OR LETTERS INDICATING THAT THERE WAS
19:01:32 ANY OPPOSITION.
19:01:35 WE DID RECEIVE SOME PHONE CALLS INDICATING THAT THEY
19:01:37 WERE SUPPORTIVE.
19:01:42 WITH RESPECT TO -- TO THE SITE ITSELF, I THINK THE
19:01:45 STAFF POINTED OUT TO YOU AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL
19:01:50 PHOTOGRAPH THAT THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
19:01:53 AND THEN YOU CAN -- YOU CAN JUST -- YOU CAN VISUALLY
19:01:57 SEE THAT A LOT OF THOSE LOTS THAT ARE DEVELOPED AND
19:02:02 VERY SMALL, THEY ARE 50-FOOT LOTS.
19:02:05 THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS WE WENT AROUND AND WE ALSO
19:02:10 IDENTIFIED AND AREA THAT WAS SLIGHTLY LARGER THEN --
19:02:12 THEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SITE.
19:02:15 THIS IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE IN RED, AND ALL OF WHAT
19:02:19 YOU SEE IN BLUE IS -- ARE SITES THAT ARE DEVELOPED AT
19:02:23 50 FEET OR LESS.
19:02:29 ALSO DID A SITE WINDSHIELD SURVEY TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU
19:02:32 EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF HOUSES ARE EXISTING.
19:02:36 THESE ARE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
19:02:38 50-FOOT LOTS.
19:02:42 THIS ONE IS -- THIS ONE IS A NEWER STRUCTURE, BUT IT'S
19:02:45 DEVELOPED ON A 50-FOOT LOT.
19:02:50 THIS IS 615, WHICH IS -- ADJACENT TO IT GOING TO THE
19:02:51 SOUTH.
19:02:53 SORT OF SOUTHEAST.
19:02:54 50-FOOT LOT.
19:02:55 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:03:01 AND IT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
19:03:02 AND THIS IS ANOTHER PROPERTY.
19:03:04 THIS IS SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH OF THAT.
19:03:07 SO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE ONES ACROSS THE
19:03:12 STREET ARE ALL DEVELOPED ON SMALLER SCALE -- SMALLER
19:03:13 SCALE LOTS.
19:03:17 WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF
19:03:20 REGARDING THESE SITES AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
19:03:23 AS I SAID THE CITY STAFF HAVE FOUND THEM CONSISTENT.
19:03:27 IF WE -- WE CANNOT APPLY ANY -- ANY WAIVERS TO THESE
19:03:31 LOTS AS THEY -- AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPED.
19:03:34 OR AS BEING REQUESTED FOR RS-50.
19:03:37 IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF WAIVER IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD
19:03:40 HAVE TO BE APPLIED SEPARATELY.
19:03:43 I CERTAINLY WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
19:03:47 AS I SAID, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY LETTER OR NOTICES OF
19:03:49 OBJECTION OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS.
19:03:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:03:53 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
19:03:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
19:03:56 NEXT WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
19:03:59 MA'AM, YOU MAY COME UP IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
19:04:02 IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4, YOU MAY
19:04:05 COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
19:04:09 OTHER THAN THIS NICE LADY COMING UP, ANYBODY ELSE HERE
19:04:12 TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?
19:04:14 >> I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE SO I PROBABLY DIDN'T
19:04:16 FOLLOW ALL THE CORRECT --
19:04:17 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MA'AM.
19:04:20 WHAT IS YOUR NAME.
19:04:21 >> WHAT I DO NEED TO DO?
19:04:24 LESLIE SHOMOCK.
19:04:27 >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
19:04:28 >> NO, I HAVEN'T.
19:04:31 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING AND HAVE NOT BEEN
19:04:38 SWORN IN, STAND UP AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN.
19:04:42 >> DO YOU T AGREE TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
19:04:42 TRUTH.
19:04:43 >> YES, I DO.
19:04:45 I DID TALK TO NEIGHBORS -- MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS.
19:04:49 I LIVED ON DAVIS ISLAND SINCE 1981.
19:04:50 I HAVE BEEN THERE A WHILE.
19:04:53 AND I KNOW NORA AND GARY WHICH ARE IN THE HOME TO THE
19:04:57 -- AS HE REFERENCED ON THE -- ON THE SITE PLANS AND
19:05:00 PICTURES THERE TO THE SOUTH OF THIS LOT.
19:05:03 AND -- AND EVERYONE KIND OF HAS THE ATTITUDE.
19:05:05 IT'S A DONE DEAL.
19:05:06 WHATEVER.
19:05:10 AND I GUESS I FIGURED IT IS NOT A DONE DEAL IF YOU HAVE
19:05:13 A VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND YOU HAVE OPEN DISCUSSIONS.
19:05:14 NOT A DONE DEAL.
19:05:17 I'M HERE EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE ELSE IS KIND OF LIKE
19:05:19 COMPLACENT ABOUT IT.
19:05:22 I'M HERE BECAUSE THE ISSUE OF FLOODING IS WHAT I SEE IS
19:05:24 THE MAJOR PROBLEM.
19:05:28 I NOTICED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE INCREASE IN
19:05:31 BUILDING THAT FLOODING HAS INCREASED.
19:05:33 DAVIS ISLAND IS KNOWN FOR FLOODING.
19:05:36 DANUBE IS ESPECIALLY KNOWN FOR FLOODING.
19:05:39 I MEAN THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES AT THE SOUTH END OF
19:05:44 DANUBE, PEOPLE KAYAKING AFTER A HEAVY RAINSTORM.
19:05:48 FLOODING CAN BE AN ISSUE.
19:05:50 THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND LIVED THERE SINCE '81 AND
19:05:53 NEVER HAD FLOODING IN MY YARD UP UNTIL THE LAST COUPLE
19:05:54 OF YEARS.
19:05:55 I LIVE ON A HIGH POINT.
19:05:57 THAT IS WHY I DON'T HAVE FLOODING BECAUSE THERE IS
19:06:00 FLOODING FREQUENTLY IN OTHER PLACES.
19:06:03 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN
19:06:05 GOING UP EXCESSIVELY AND A HOUSE BEHIND ME THAT IS
19:06:09 LARGE, AND DON HUGHES IS THE BUILDER, AND I AM SURE HE
19:06:10 FOLLOWED CODE.
19:06:12 I AM SURE HE DID EVERYTHING THAT MOBLEY HOMES AND MR.
19:06:19 MICHELINI WAS -- SORRY, MR. MICHELINI WILL FOLLOW
19:06:22 EVERYTHING TO THE LETTER T AND DO EVERYTHING RIGHT.
19:06:24 IT STILL DOES NOT PREVENT FLOODING.
19:06:25 IT INCREASES FLOODING.
19:06:29 MY YARD NOW, THE SIDE YARD AND THE BACK YARD HAVE TWO
19:06:32 TO FOUR INCHES OF WATER STANDING ON THERE AFTER EVERY
19:06:33 RAIN NOW.
19:06:37 SO I KNOW THAT AS YOU BUILD, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE
19:06:38 FLOODING.
19:06:41 THE LOT IN QUESTION ALWAYS FLOODS WHEN THERE IS RAIN.
19:06:45 IN FACT THE SIDEWALK USUALLY IS IMPASSIBLE AFTER RAIN.
19:06:48 AND SOMETIMES THE STREET IN THAT AREA IS FLOODED ALSO
19:06:51 WHICH HAPPENS FREQUENTLY ON DAVIS ISLAND.
19:06:54 SO WE JUST DETOUR AROUND AND WAIT UNTIL THE WATER GOES
19:06:55 DOWN.
19:06:57 BUT I KNOW YOUR CONSIDERATIONS ARE FOR SAFETY AND THE
19:07:00 WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND -- AND I THINK WITH
19:07:05 FLOODING, THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND A WELFARE ISSUE,
19:07:10 AND I DO KNOW THAT -- THAT IT -- IT IS COMMON SENSE
19:07:12 WHEN YOU PUT TWO HOMES -- AND I KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO
19:07:16 GO BY THE CODES FOR IMPERVIOUS LAND USE AND EVERYTHING
19:07:19 IS GOING TO BE DONE CORRECTLY, SUPPOSEDLY, BUT THAT
19:07:22 ALSO DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE AMOUNT OF LAND
19:07:25 COVER THAT HAPPENS AFTER BUILDING PERMITS.
19:07:28 THERE ARE THINGS THAT -- THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED THAT
19:07:33 GET -- TRAVERTINE TILE POOL AREA.
19:07:35 IS MY TIME UP?
19:07:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
19:07:38 >> 30 SECONDS.
19:07:40 YOU CAN GO THROUGH ALL THE CODES AND DO NOTHING WRONG
19:07:42 BY PUTTING TWO HOUSE THERE IS MAYBE.
19:07:44 BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
19:07:47 THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO LOOK AT THE CONSEQUENCES OF
19:07:50 TWO HOUSES VERSUS ONE LOVELY HOME AND I'M HERE TO
19:07:52 SUGGEST THAT YOU LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES OF HOW THIS USE
19:07:55 THAT LAND USE THE BEST OF WHAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY
19:07:57 THE BEST.
19:08:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
19:08:02 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WORDS.
19:08:05 ANYBODY ELSE TO COMMENT ON NUMBER 4.
19:08:08 MR. MICHELINI --
19:08:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION TO STAFF.
19:08:14 YOU HEARD THE YOUNG LADY'S COMMENTS ABOUT FLOODING AND
19:08:19 ANY RESPONSE FROM STAFF IN REGARD TO THOSE CONCERNS?
19:08:24 >> COUNCILMAN, THERE IS EUCLIDIAN REZONING AND HAVE TO
19:08:28 NEAT CODE WHEN BUILDING ANY SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE IF
19:08:31 YOU WERE TO GRANT THE EUCLIDIAN REQUEST.
19:08:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES STORMWATER REVIEW THIS
19:08:40 REZONING OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY -- ANY PD REZONING FOR
19:08:41 FLOODING ISSUES?
19:08:47 OR DO THEY WAIT UNTIL PERMITTING?
19:08:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
19:08:53 AGAIN, WITH THE EUCLIDIAN REZONINGS, WE ARE NOT LOOKING
19:08:54 FOR A SITE PLAN.
19:08:57 WITH THE PD IT IS EVALUATED FOR STORMWATER.
19:09:00 THIS IS NOT A PD, THIS IS EUCLIDIAN.
19:09:03 STORMWATER OF CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AT THE TIME OF
19:09:04 PERMITTING.
19:09:06 SO, YES, THEY STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STORMWATER
19:09:08 CODE.
19:09:11 WE JUST DON'T REVIEW IT AT THIS TIME AND THE BUILDING
19:09:12 --
19:09:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN A
19:09:16 CERTAIN NUMBER OF STORM ON-SITE.
19:09:17 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
19:09:20 EACH LOT HAS TO HAVE 25% GREEN SPACE AS WELL.
19:09:24 I KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNER DISCUSSED THE AMOUNT OF TOTAL
19:09:26 IMPERVIOUS AREA PER THE CODE.
19:09:32 25% OF EACH RESIDENTIAL LOT HAS TO REMAIN GREEN SPACE.
19:09:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND SHE HAD MENTIONED ABOUT POOL
19:09:37 SURFACES.
19:09:38 THAT SORT OF THING.
19:09:43 IF THE BUILDER WANTED TO INCLUDE POOLS, THAT WOULD COME
19:09:47 INTO THAT CALCULATION OF IMPERVIOUS, CORRECT?
19:09:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR, 25 -- YES.
19:09:52 75% OF THE LOT CAN BE COVERED WITH BUILDING, DRIVEWAYS,
19:09:56 SIDEWALKS, PAVERS, POOLS, ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, BUT 25%
19:09:59 HAS TO REMAIN GREEN SPACE.
19:10:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
19:10:05 OKAY, MR. MICHELINI.
19:10:07 >> STEVE MICHELINI.
19:10:09 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT
19:10:12 TECHNICAL STANDARDS LIKE STORMWATER CAN'T BE WAIVED.
19:10:17 SO THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR ALLOWING FOR MORE -- MORE
19:10:18 SPACE.
19:10:20 WE HAVE TO MEET THE CODE FOR THE -- FOR THE PLANS THAT
19:10:23 ARE DEVELOPED AND AS STAFF POINTED OUT, YOU HAVE TO
19:10:28 MAINTAIN 25% OF OPEN SPACE THAT IS IMPERVIOUS -- THAT
19:10:31 IS PERVIOUS AS OPPOSED TO THE HOUSE, THE POOL, OR ANY
19:10:33 OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND THAT INCLUDES THE
19:10:38 GARAGE, SIDEWALKS, DRIVEWAYS.
19:10:42 SO THE -- USUALLY THE POST CONDITION AFTER DEVELOPMENT
19:10:45 IS BETTER THAN THE EXISTING CONDITION.
19:10:48 WITH RESPECT TO STORMWATER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TREAT IT
19:10:52 ON-SITE BEFORE IT GOES OFF-SITE.
19:10:55 THE RAIN WATER MAY BE GOING ON TO THE VACANT LOTS NOW,
19:10:58 AND IT MAY BE FLOODING, BUT THAT IS NOT CONTROLLED
19:11:00 RUNOFF.
19:11:03 WHEN YOU DEVELOP A SITE, YOU HAVE TO CONTROL THE
19:11:05 RUNOFF.
19:11:08 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
19:11:09 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
19:11:09 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:11:11 A MOTION TO CLOSE.
19:11:15 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED BY
19:11:17 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:11:18 ALL IN FAVOR.
19:11:19 ANY OPPOSED?
19:11:22 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING NUMBER
19:11:23 FOUR.
19:11:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
19:11:28 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
19:11:36 611 AND 613 DANUBE AVENUE ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-60
19:11:41 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO RS-50 PROVIDED AN
19:11:42 EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:11:46 THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND PROVIDED
19:11:48 COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT
19:11:50 IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE
19:11:51 CITY CODE.
19:11:53 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER DID YOU WANT TO
19:11:55 SECOND THAT OR HAVE A QUESTION.
19:11:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A COMMENT ON THE MOTION.
19:11:59 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
19:12:03 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
19:12:03 >> SECOND.
19:12:06 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:12:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANTED TO COMMENT.
19:12:10 THERE IS LEGITIMATE CONCERN ALL OVER THE CITY ABOUT
19:12:14 FLOODING, AND WE DON'T WANT TO EXACERBATE THE FLOODING,
19:12:21 BUT OUR FOCUS HERE IS WHETHER OR NOT THESE -- WE SHOULD
19:12:24 ALLOW TWO HOMES WHERE PERHAPS A LONG TIME AGO ONE HOME
19:12:25 STOOD.
19:12:26 NOT REALLY SURE.
19:12:28 IT IS HARD TO TELL BECAUSE THAT LOT HAS BEEN GRASSED
19:12:30 OVER FOR A LONG TIME.
19:12:33 ANYWAY -- BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE HAVE TO RELY
19:12:38 ON THIS -- THIS COLORFUL MAP THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN US TO
19:12:39 BY STAFF.
19:12:43 AND ON THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK FACE, IT IS UNUSUAL, BUT
19:12:46 VIRTUALLY ALL THE LOTS ON THE SIDE OF THE STREETS THAT
19:12:49 -- THAT THE REZONING IS OCCURRING ARE IN THIS BLUE
19:12:54 COLOR WHICH INDICATES 50-FOOT LOTS AND THEREABOUTS.
19:12:57 BUT WHAT IS REALLY UNUSUAL IS ACROSS THE STREET, THERE
19:12:57 ARE BIGGER LOTS.
19:13:01 SO FOR SOME REASON, THE DEVELOPER OVER TIME OR THE
19:13:06 FOLKS WHO MADE THE PLAT SPLIT DANUBE IN HALF.
19:13:09 ON THE RIGHT SIDE 50-FOOT LOTS.
19:13:12 ON THE LEVEL SIDE 60 OR LARGER.
19:13:16 A LITTLE UNUSUAL SITUATION, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON
19:13:19 TO DENY THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER THIS REQUEST.
19:13:22 BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING ON THAT SIDE OF THE
19:13:26 STREET, THE ODD NUMBER SIDE OF THE STREET IS CONSISTENT
19:13:28 WITH THAT 50-FOOT DEVELOPMENT.
19:13:29 I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.
19:13:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
19:13:33 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:13:37 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.
19:13:37 ALL IN FAVOR.
19:13:39 OPPOSED.
19:13:41 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING AND
19:13:46 ADOPTION WILL BE ON JANUARY 9, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:13:49 >>LUIS VIERA: TONIGHT NEXT ONE, NUMBER FIVE.
19:13:51 >> PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:14:00 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS ACTION FILE NO. REZ19-98.
19:14:06 3515 WEST EUCLID AVENUE FROM RS-60 TO RS-50 AND LET THE
19:14:09 PLANNING COMMISSION TAKE OVER.
19:14:11 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
19:14:13 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
19:14:14 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
19:14:17 WE MOVE TO THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT NOR NEXT
19:14:18 CASE.
19:14:23 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BAYSHORE
19:14:27 BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:14:34 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
19:14:36 ACTUALLY ON EUCLID.
19:14:39 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN LEVEL B EVACUATION ZONE, AND THE
19:14:44 CLOSEST RECREATION FACILITY IS CORONA PARK WHICH IS .4
19:14:49 MILES TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:14:51 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
19:14:53 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:14:58 IT IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HIMES AND EUCLID.
19:15:03 THIS AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
19:15:06 THE SOUTH SIDE OF EUCLID HAS SOME OFFICES.
19:15:11 YOU CAN SEE FURTHER TO THE SOUTHWEST IS BRITON PLAZA.
19:15:14 AND YOU CAN SEE THE LEE ROY SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
19:15:18 THERE IS AN OFF-RAMP ACTUALLY HERE THAT DROPS FROM THE
19:15:25 HIGHWAY ON TO EUCLID ABOUT A BLOCK TO THE EAST.
19:15:30 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
19:15:35 PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, WEST AND NORTH IN ALL THAT TAN
19:15:37 COLOR ARE THE RESIDENTIAL 10.
19:15:41 THE SOUTH SIDE OF EUCLID GOES UP TO A RESIDENTIAL 20.
19:15:45 THAT REPRESENTS THAT KIND OF OFFICE THAT YOU ARE SEEING
19:15:46 THROUGH THERE.
19:15:51 AND THEN AS YOU GET TO BRITON PLAZA, THE RED IS THE
19:16:00 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND SOME COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
19:16:03 TO-TO--TO-THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:16:08 AS RYAN STATED PREVIOUSLY, THE SUBJECT SITE FOR THE
19:16:11 RESIDENTIAL 50 ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR TWO
19:16:15 SINGLE-FAMILIAR DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS,
19:16:19 RESIDENTIALLY DEVELOPED PARCELS SOUTH HIMES AVENUE
19:16:22 EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE HAS AN EXISTING DENSITY OF
19:16:25 5.48 UNITS PER ACRE.
19:16:27 THE SUBJECT SITE WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS BEING
19:16:30 PROPOSED WOULD BE DEVELOPED AT A DENSITY OF 7.4 UNITS
19:16:32 PER ACRE.
19:16:34 PROPOSED DENSITY WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:16:37 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL
19:16:41 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:16:45 OVERALL, THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD BE DEVELOPED IN A
19:16:48 SIMILAR FORM, HEIGHT, SCALE AND LOT PATTERN OF THE
19:16:50 SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
19:16:54 FURTHER, THE REZONING SUPPORTS THE POLICY DIRECTION OF
19:16:57 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO THE SOUTH TAMPA
19:17:00 PLANNING DISTRICT BY PROVIDING DIVERSE HOUSING
19:17:02 OPPORTUNITIES WITH ACCESS TO TRANSIT.
19:17:05 THIS REZONING WOULD NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OR
19:17:07 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS PORTION OF THE BAYSHORE
19:17:08 BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:17:10 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
19:17:14 STAFF FINDS THE REZONING REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:17:19 PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:17:20 THANK YOU.
19:17:21 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
19:17:23 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
19:17:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DAVID, CAN YOU ELABORATE FOR
19:17:29 CLARIFY WHEN YOU SAY "DIVERSE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES?"
19:17:32 >>DAVID HEY: BASED ON THE POLICY?
19:17:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YESTERDAY, BASED ON THE POLICY WHAT YOU
19:17:37 JUST SAID.
19:17:40 >>DAVID HEY: THE COMP PLAN LOOKS AT A VARIETY OF WIDE
19:17:44 RANGING HOUSING CHOICES, LARGE LOT, SMALL LOT, AND IF
19:17:47 YOU WERE IN AN APPROPRIATE PROPERTY WITH DENSITY
19:17:51 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND MULTIFAMILY.
19:17:54 THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, MULTIFAMILY IS NOT
19:17:55 PERMITTED.
19:17:59 SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LOT SIZES AS A
19:18:01 DIVERSE HOUSING SITE.
19:18:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO BASICALLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING,
19:18:07 BUT A SMALLER LOT.
19:18:12 >>DAVID HEY: CORRECT.
19:18:17 >> RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING.
19:18:21 ITEM NUMBER FIVE FILE NO. REZ19-99.
19:18:24 WAIVERS MAY NOT BE REQUESTED AS PART OF THIS ACTION.
19:18:26 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY
19:18:31 LOCATED AT 3515 WEST EUCLID AVENUE FROM RS-60
19:18:35 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE
19:18:40 FAMILY TO ALLOW TWO DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
19:18:47 TWO PLATTED LOTS, LOTS 56 AND 57 OF BELMAR NUMBER 8 LOT
19:18:47 OR PLAT.
19:18:52 LOT 56 -- LOT 56 IS 55 X 110 FEET WHICH COMES OUT TO
19:18:57 6050 SQUARE FEET AND LOT 57 IS 55 FEET X 110 FEET WHICH
19:19:03 COMES OUT TO 6050 FOR A TOTAL SITE AREA OF 12,100
19:19:03 SQUARE FEET.
19:19:08 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OPERATED BY A DETACH
19:19:13 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE CONSTRUCTED IN 1954.
19:19:16 LOCATED ON WEST EUCLID AND HIMES AVENUE.
19:19:20 SURROUNDED BY DETACHED RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH,
19:19:24 EAST AND WEST AND SINGLE FAMILY RS-50 AND SINGLE
19:19:28 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY RS-60.
19:19:30 AND THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL CITY OF TAMPA
19:19:35 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT TIME OF PERMITTING.
19:19:42 GOING INTO THE STAFF ANALYSIS, I WILL PUT THE MAP UP.
19:19:49 THE BELMAR REVISED NUMBER 8 SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED IN
19:19:54 1927 WITH LOTS FROM 50 FEET TO 160 FEET TO THE AVERAGE
19:19:58 OF 60 FEET AND A DEPTH FROM 110 FEET TO 124 FEET.
19:20:02 THE SECTION OF THE BELMAR SUBDIVISION CONTAINS EIGHT
19:20:02 BLOCKS.
19:20:05 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON LOTS 56 AND 57.
19:20:08 THE SUBJECT -- THE SUBJECT APPLICATION SEEKS TO
19:20:12 RE-ESTABLISH THE ORIGINAL PLATTED LOTS TO CREATE TWO
19:20:12 BUILDABLE LOTS.
19:20:18 THE OVERALL AREA THE ANALYSIS OF BELMAR REVISED UNIT
19:20:20 NUMBER 8 SUBDIVISION PLAT.
19:20:24 THE AREA OF THE ANALYSIS INCLUDED 59 TOTAL ZONING LOTS,
19:20:29 54 -- 54 OR 92% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH
19:20:36 A WIDTH OF 60 FEET FOR GREATER AND FIVE OR 8% OF 50.99
19:20:39 OR LESS AND THOSE ARE HISTORICALLY PLATTED LOTS.
19:20:42 PURSUANT TO REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN,
19:20:46 THE SUBJECT LOT CONTAINS 16 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 14 --
19:20:51 SORRY, 88% OF THOSE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60
19:20:52 FEET FOR GREATER.
19:20:57 AND TWO OR 12% OF THOSE DEVELOPED LOTS WITH WIDTHS
19:20:59 59.99 OR LESS.
19:21:03 THE 3500 BLOCK OF WEST EUCLID ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
19:21:06 STREET CONTAIN SEVEN TOTAL ZONING LOTS, SEVEN OR 107%
19:21:11 OF THOSE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET FOR
19:21:14 GREATER AND ZERO WITH 59.99 OR LESS.
19:21:17 A TOTAL OF 14% OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK FACE HAS BEEN
19:21:21 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
19:21:24 STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
19:21:28 IN THIS STUDY AREA, SUBJECT BLOCK ADDRESS RANGE AND
19:21:32 BLACK FACE ARE COMPOSED PRIMARILY OF LOTS GREATER THAN
19:21:34 60 FEET IN WIDTH.
19:21:37 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF THE
19:21:39 ORIGINAL PLATTED LOTS INCONSISTENT WITH EXISTING
19:21:42 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE BLOCK FACE AND SUBJECT BLOCK
19:21:46 ADDRESS, RANGE AND OVERALL STUDY AREA.
19:21:48 THERE WERE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN 1,000
19:21:50 FEET.
19:21:53 AND I WILL SHOW YOU SOME SITE PHOTOS.
19:21:57 SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
19:22:00 THIS IS EAST.
19:22:05 SOUTH.
19:22:07 SOUTH NUMBER TWO.
19:22:09 WEST.
19:22:10 AND THEN NORTH.
19:22:13 AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMBINES STAFF HAS
19:22:17 FOUND THIS REQUEST INCONSISTENT AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE
19:22:19 FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
19:22:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:22:21 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:22:27 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:22:29 >> IN --
19:22:36 >> INCONSISTENT.
19:22:40 >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING CRAIG KINCHELOE THE
19:22:43 PETITIONER AND OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES.
19:22:46 A FAMILY PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO DEVELOP FOR
19:22:47 THEIR OWN USE.
19:22:51 AND I HAVE TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM ADJACENT
19:23:00 PROPERTY OWNERS OF 3514 EUCLID AND 3511 EUCLID.
19:23:07 I ALSO HAVE A LITTLE EXPANDED KIND OF VIEW OF WHAT WE
19:23:08 ARE DEALING WITH HERE.
19:23:10 AND I THINK THAT -- YOU KNOW, THE STAFF WHEN THEY DID
19:23:16 THEIR ANALYSIS, THEY STOPPED EAST OF -- EAST OF HIMES.
19:23:21 AND EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF HIMES IS ALL ZONED RS-50.
19:23:25 NOW YOU SEE TWO LOTS HERE THAT WERE DEVELOPED WITH THE
19:23:26 HOUSES FACING HIMES.
19:23:33 AND THAT IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS HERE.
19:23:36 THE COUNCIL AGREES TO THE ZONING TO FLIP THE LOTS AND
19:23:40 ORIENT THEM TOWARD HIMES AWAY FROM ALL THE TRAFFIC AND
19:23:44 CONGESTION THAT OCCURS ALONG EUCLID.
19:23:46 I HAVE THE TRAFFIC REPORT REGARDING ACCIDENTS FROM THE
19:23:49 LAST 2017 AND 2018.
19:23:54 AND THERE WERE 17 INCIDENTS OF ACCIDENTS AT THIS
19:23:54 INTERSECTION.
19:23:58 THIS IS A TYPICAL DAY FOR THE OFF RAMP WHICH IS
19:23:59 ADJACENT.
19:24:02 IF YOU LOOK HERE, THERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
19:24:05 AND THEN THIS IS THE OFF RAMP FOR THE CROSSTOWN.
19:24:08 IT DUMPS RIGHT OFF OF THERE, AND PLACES THE TRAFFIC
19:24:10 RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTIES.
19:24:13 SO I THINK THERE IS SOME MITIGATING CONDITIONS HERE.
19:24:18 WE ALSO HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALL ALONG THE OTHER
19:24:21 TWO SIDES OF THE INTERSECTION HERE ON BOTH THE EAST AND
19:24:25 THE WEST SIDES OF HIMES AT EUCLID.
19:24:31 THIS IS THE OFF-RAMP ON A TYPICAL AFTERNOON.
19:24:33 AND THIS IS HOW THE TRAFFIC STACKS UP.
19:24:36 THIS IS JUST ONE LOT IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THIS
19:24:37 PROPERTY.
19:24:39 AND QUITE HONESTLY, SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO BUILD A
19:24:43 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF EUCLID AND HIMES
19:24:45 SHOULD BE APPLAUDED.
19:24:49 INSTEAD OF COMING BACK INTO YOU AND ASKING FOR A LAND
19:24:51 USE AMENDMENT THAT THIS COULD POSSIBLY BE CONSIDERED
19:24:54 FOR COMMERCIAL THROUGH A LAND USE AMENDMENT AND ZONING,
19:24:58 WHICH NORMALLY IS WHAT HAPPENS ON THESE CORNER LOTS,
19:25:00 ESPECIALLY ON THESE BUSY INTERSECTIONS.
19:25:04 THIS IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
19:25:05 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HERE.
19:25:11 AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS ON A FREQUENT BASIS AT THAT
19:25:12 INTERSECTION.
19:25:16 THIS IS ALSO ACCIDENTS.
19:25:19 THIS IS THE SAME INTERSECTION LOOKING IN FRONT OF THIS
19:25:19 PROPERTY.
19:25:23 SAME INTERSECTION.
19:25:31 THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE RIGHT NOW -- THEY ARE 7728
19:25:36 TRAFFIC VEHICLES PER DAY ON -- ON EUCLID.
19:25:40 WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO ORIENT THE HOUSES AS I
19:25:42 SAID TOWARD -- TOWARD HIMES.
19:25:47 THAT WOULD ALLOW A SIX-FOOT MASONRY WALL TO ISOLATE
19:25:50 THOSE HOMES AND YOU WOULD HAVE SOME QUIET ENJOYMENT OF
19:25:54 THAT PROPERTY.
19:25:58 AS STAFF POINTED OUT YOU HAVE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL 10
19:26:00 WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
19:26:02 YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL 20.
19:26:05 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ALL
19:26:08 WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THIS PROPERTY.
19:26:14 SO, AGAIN THIS THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO PUSH THE
19:26:15 ENVELOPE.
19:26:18 THEY ARE TRYING TO STABILIZE THAT CORNER A REASONABLE
19:26:19 MANNER.
19:26:23 THIS IS THE 20.
19:26:28 THIS IS THE 35 AND BRITTON PLAZA HERE.
19:26:32 THIS IS A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION AND THE STAFF ANALYZED
19:26:37 THE EAST SIDE OF THIS TO SEE IF IT WAS COMPATIBLE OR
19:26:42 NOT AND YOU CAN SEE IRREGULAR LOT CONFIGURATIONS AND
19:26:45 THIS PROPERTY OWNER LIKE I SAID IS TAKING A BIG RISK
19:26:49 PUTTING SINGLE-FAMILY ON THAT CORNER AND WE HAVE
19:26:54 SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO RESPONDED TO US IN IS THE
19:26:57 EUCLIDIAN ZONING AND WE HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE CODES.
19:26:59 WE CAN'T SEEK ANY WAIVERS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
19:27:03 I WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE -- THE ACCIDENT REPORTS
19:27:07 IF WOULD YOU LIKE THEM.
19:27:11 IN 2017 AND 2018 AND THAT WAS COVERED FROM MAY UNTIL
19:27:14 JUNE OF 2018.
19:27:17 I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF REQUIRED
19:27:20 FOR A COMPATIBLE INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
19:27:24 AND IT DOES DESERVE SOME CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT
19:27:26 DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET -- ALL OF THAT PROPERTY IS
19:27:29 JOINED RS-50.
19:27:30 AND THIS IS A CORNER LOT.
19:27:34 AND THE OTHER -- THE ONE CORNER ACROSS THE STREET IS
19:27:35 ALREADY DEVELOPED WITH THE ORIENTATION OF TWO HOMES
19:27:40 WITH A RS-50 DESIGNATION AND THE TWO OTHER CORNERS ARE
19:27:42 COMMERCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL.
19:27:44 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
19:27:45 HAVE.
19:27:50 BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A PETITION FOR -- THAT THE OWNER --
19:27:53 AND THEY PLAN TO LIVE IN ONE OF THE HOMES THEMSELVES.
19:27:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:27:56 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:27:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
19:28:03 ANYBODY HERE PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 5 NUMBER
19:28:04 COME FORWARD.
19:28:09 MOTION AND CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO, SECOND BY
19:28:10 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:28:12 ANY OPPOSED.
19:28:15 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:28:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO SAY ONE THING BEFORE WE
19:28:19 GET INTO THE MOTION.
19:28:22 AGAIN, I AM NOT A HUGE FAN OF LOT SPLITS BUT IN THIS
19:28:27 CASE I AGREE COMPLETELY MR. MICHELINI.
19:28:29 A VERY, VERY BUSY CORNER.
19:28:34 I AM SURPRISED IT DIDN'T GO COMMERCIAL INSTEAD AND I
19:28:39 APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MR. MICHELINI POINTED OUT
19:28:43 ACROSS THE STREET IS A MIRROR IMAGE WHAT THEY ARE
19:28:46 HOPING TO DO AND I DON'T THINK IT IS COMPLETELY OUT OF
19:28:46 CHARACTER.
19:28:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:28:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NO. REZ19-9.
19:29:01 REZONE IN 3515 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
19:29:04 FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1,
19:29:08 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-06 RESIDENTIAL
19:29:13 SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY
19:29:14 PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:29:19 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:29:21 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:29:23 ALL OPPOSED?
19:29:24 >> THANK YOU.
19:29:40 >> ADOPTION WILL BE ON JANUARY 9 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:29:45 >> ITEM NUMBER 6, RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
19:29:47 COORDINATION.
19:29:50 FILE NO. REZ19-99 FOR THE PROPERTY ADDRESS 4201 EAST
19:29:51 12TH AVENUE.
19:29:56 A EUCLIDIAN REZONING REQUEST GOING FROM RM-16 TO CG AND
19:29:59 PASS IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
19:30:03 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
19:30:05 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
19:30:08 WE ARE BACK IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR
19:30:09 THIS CASE.
19:30:15 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE SITE TO THE
19:30:18 SOUTH, LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.
19:30:22 IT IS ALSO -- THERE IS A RECREATION FACILITY ONE FOURTH
19:30:28 OF A MILE TO THE NORTHEAST.
19:30:30 HERE IS THE AERIAL.
19:30:34 THIS IS -- 7TH IS TO THE SOUTH.
19:30:35 GO UP.
19:30:37 THIS IS 43RD STREET.
19:30:41 IT DEAD-ENDS INTO INTERSTATE 4.
19:30:46 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PREDOMINANT PATTERN IS HEAVY
19:30:50 COMMERCIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT, BUT
19:30:56 THERE ARE POCKETS OF OLD -- OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS BACK IN
19:31:04 -- IN THIS AREA.
19:31:06 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
19:31:09 THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE PROPERTIES ALONG NORTH 43RD
19:31:12 STREET REPRESENTED BY THE RED IS THAT COMMUNITY
19:31:13 COMMERCIAL 35.
19:31:19 AS YOU GO WEST, IT TURNS INTO THAT TRANSITIONAL USE 24.
19:31:22 THAT IS THE CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS INDUSTRIAL,
19:31:23 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
19:31:26 IF YOU MOVE TO THE SOUTH TOWARD 7TH AND BROADWAY, IT
19:31:30 ACTUALLY TURNS INTO MORE OF A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEN
19:31:34 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
19:31:36 THERE IS ALSO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH NEAR THE
19:31:39 INTERSECTION OF COLUMBUS AND 19TH.
19:31:41 THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
19:31:46 IS LOCATED FURTHER TO THE EAST AROUND 47TH STREET.
19:31:55 THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:31:58 THE PROJECT SITE IS WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
19:32:02 WHICH ALLOWS CONSIDERATION FOR INTENSIVE AND COMMERCIAL
19:32:04 GENERAL USES.
19:32:07 THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT
19:32:10 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:32:14 STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL USE THAT'S
19:32:16 ABUT THE SITE.
19:32:19 SO WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY TO
19:32:22 ENSURE THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, THAT THE
19:32:25 APPROPRIATE BUFFERING AND SCREENING IS PROVIDED TO
19:32:30 ENSURE THAT ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ARE MITIGATED FOR.
19:32:33 AND IN CONCLUSION, THE REQUEST IS WITHIN THE CHARACTER
19:32:35 OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT
19:32:39 LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND ENCOURAGE IN THE
19:32:41 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:32:43 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION
19:32:47 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:32:51 PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
19:32:52 PLAN.
19:33:00 THANK YOU.
19:33:06 >> RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING AND DESIGN COORDINATION.
19:33:13 ITEM IS A EUCLIDIAN REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY 421 EAST
19:33:16 12TH AVENUE FOR RM-16 TO CG.
19:33:18 THROUGH THE EUCLIDIAN AND ZONING PROCESS, NO WAIVERS
19:33:20 CAN BE REQUESTED THROUGH THIS APPLICATION.
19:33:23 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO
19:33:29 RM-16 -- SORRY FROM RM-16 TO CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO
19:33:32 ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WITH COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
19:33:36 THE .29 ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED TWO LOTS TO THE WEST
19:33:39 OF THE EAST 12TH AVENUE AND NORTH 43RD STREET
19:33:40 INTERSECTION.
19:33:42 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
19:33:45 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
19:33:50 16 OR RM-16 ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST
19:33:53 WITH DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AND INDUSTRIAL
19:33:56 GENERAL IG ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE WEST.
19:33:59 HAS AN AIR-CONDITIONED STORAGE USE.
19:34:02 THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL APPLICABLE CITY OF
19:34:05 TAMPA DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT TIME OF PERMITTING,
19:34:11 INCLUDING REQUIRED USE TO USE BUFFERING.
19:34:15 THIS WILL ALLOW TO BE FULLY DEVELOPED UNDER CG ZONING
19:34:17 STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
19:34:21 NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF
19:34:23 THIS PROPERTY AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU THE SITE
19:34:25 PICTURES.
19:34:28 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:34:32 THIS IS TO THE EAST.
19:34:33 TO THE NORTH.
19:34:39 AND THE SECOND PHOTO TO THE NORTH.
19:34:41 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS
19:34:43 REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST
19:34:45 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
19:34:48 CODE, AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
19:34:48 MAY HAVE.
19:34:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:34:50 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:34:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:35:15 APPLICANT?
19:35:18 >> HI, JORGE CASTRO.
19:35:22 SORRY, THE FIRST TIME WITH THE CITY.
19:35:23 I'M HERE FOR THE PROPERTY.
19:35:27 THE REASON WHY I WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING BECAUSE
19:35:34 RIGHT NOW IT IS RM-16 THAT IS NOT FUNCTIONAL FOR ME.
19:35:39 SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY OFFICE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF
19:35:42 MY HOUSE THAN THE SECOND FLOOR.
19:35:46 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
19:35:47 ANYTHING ELSE?
19:35:49 THAT'S ALL?
19:35:55 >> YES, TO PARK IN MY COMMERCIAL PICK-UP AND PUT MY
19:35:59 STUFF THERE IS THE ONLY -- THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN DO
19:36:04 THAT IS CHANGE THE ZONING FOR MY PROPERTY.
19:36:06 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
19:36:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:36:10 ANYONE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 6.
19:36:11 SIR?
19:36:12 COME ON.
19:36:15 OTHER THAN THIS GENTLEMAN COMING IN ANYBODY ELSE WANTS
19:36:17 TO COMMENT ON 6?
19:36:18 OKAY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:36:21 >> HELLO, MICHAEL ULASER.
19:36:26 4202 EAST 11TH SAFE, THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY IN
19:36:29 QUESTION TONIGHT TO TRY TO GET REZONED.
19:36:32 I JUST -- YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS I HAVE LIVED IN THE
19:36:35 NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 2005, 15 YEARS, AND IT IS
19:36:36 RESIDENTIAL AREA.
19:36:40 I HAVE KIDS AND WITH IT BEING REZONED I JUST -- I THINK
19:36:43 THAT VEHICLES COMING DOWN MY ROAD EVEN THOUGH IT IS ONE
19:36:46 ROAD OVER, YOU KNOW, WRONG DIRECTION SOMETHING LIKE
19:36:48 THAT OR THINGS COULD HAPPEN.
19:36:51 AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN A RELATION NEIGHBORHOOD FOR
19:36:53 A NUMBER YEARS.
19:36:57 AND LIKE I SAID I RAISED MY FAMILY THERE SAND MY
19:37:00 CONCERN IS HAVING A COMMERCIAL -- I LIVE 50 YARDS FROM
19:37:03 WHAT THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS.
19:37:07 AND, IT IS JUST -- I DON'T WANT VEHICLES COMING IN AT
19:37:10 12:00 AT NIGHT, MIDNIGHT.
19:37:13 I CAN'T SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE OF HOW IT IS ZONED.
19:37:17 THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY ON THAT SITUATION.
19:37:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:37:20 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WORDS.
19:37:24 ANYONE ELSE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 6?
19:37:25 OKAY.
19:37:28 MR. CASTRO, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY IN
19:37:30 REBUTTAL?
19:38:06 ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY?
19:38:11 >> I GOT THAT PROPERTY FOR I THINK TWO YEARS, AND I
19:38:17 NEVER BOTHER ANYBODY NEIGHBORHOOD -- ANYBODY THERE.
19:38:28 IF YOU SEE THE MAP, THIS IS THE PROPERTY.
19:38:32 AND THE PROPERTY -- MY PROPERTY IS IN DEAD END.
19:38:34 SO THERE IS NO TRAFFIC THERE.
19:38:40 THIS GUY, HE LIVE IN ANOTHER -- IN ANOTHER DEAD END.
19:38:47 SO NEVER -- VEHICLE COMING TO MY PROPERTY IS COMING
19:38:51 THIS WAY TO HERE, TO MY PROPERTY.
19:38:54 HE IS MY BACK NEIGHBOR RIGHT HERE.
19:38:57 SO NEIGHBOR -- I WOULDN'T BOTHER THEM BECAUSE I COME IN
19:38:59 THROUGH HERE, RIGHT.
19:39:02 I THINK -- MY OPINION THAT HE IS HERE BECAUSE THIS
19:39:04 NEIGHBOR WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
19:39:10 WE FOUND IT THAT HE TAKE MORE THAN 500 FEET OF MY
19:39:11 PROPERTY.
19:39:17 HIS FENCE IS FIVE FEET INSIDE MY PROPERTY FOR 22 FEET.
19:39:21 I EXPLAINED TEN MONTHS THAT HE MOVE THE FENCE.
19:39:24 I WENT EVERYWHERE.
19:39:28 I SENT HIM MORE THAN TEN LETTERS.
19:39:31 I NEVER RECEIVED THE -- THE ANSWER.
19:39:36 THE LAST ONE LETTER WE TOLD HIM THAT WE READY TO GO TO
19:39:41 THE COURT BECAUSE HE GOT HIS FENCE AND YOU CAN SEE
19:39:41 HERE.
19:39:48 AND HE IS INSIDE MY PROPERTY.
19:39:51 WE TOLD HIM THAT WE HAVE -- WE ARE READY TO GO TO THE
19:39:54 COURT BECAUSE IT IS TEN MONTHS THAT HE -- THAT WE DON'T
19:39:56 RECEIVE ANY ANSWER.
19:40:00 HIS WIFE SENT ME THE E-MAIL AND TOLD ME THAT THEY WILL
19:40:03 MOVE THE FENCE.
19:40:09 THEY EXPLAIN TWO MORE MONTHS TO MOVE THAT.
19:40:11 THEY NEVER MOVED.
19:40:16 I SENT HER -- WE -- I WILL MOVE -- I WILL MOVE THE
19:40:21 FENCE TO THE LINE OF MY PROPERTY TOMORROW.
19:40:26 SO NEXT DAY, I WENT WITH MY GUY TO MOVE THE FENCE.
19:40:32 AND THIS GUY COME WITH HIS SON -- AROUND 15 YEARS OLD
19:40:34 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
19:40:36 PUT THE FENCE IN THE FLOOR.
19:40:43 AND HIS WIFE COME AND ALSO -- I EXPLAINED TO HER, I
19:40:44 WILL MOVE.
19:40:48 SHE ASKED ME WHY I AM PUTTING DOWN THE FENCE.
19:40:51 I EXPLAINED TO HER TO PUT ON MY PROPERTY LINE.
19:40:57 SO THIS GUY CROSSED MY PROPERTY LINE AND FENCE AND IN
19:41:01 BAD WAY, AND HE TAKE OUT ALL FENCE.
19:41:06 I THINK IS WHY HE IS HERE TODAY.
19:41:09 THANK YOU.
19:41:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:41:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY BUT I DON'T
19:41:19 THINK WE CAN IN ANY WAY PREJUDGE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER A
19:41:23 FENCE LINE REGARDING A ZONING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE
19:41:23 US.
19:41:27 IT MIGHT BE A DISPUTE BETWEEN TWO NEIGHBORS, BUT I
19:41:29 CAN'T -- I CAN'T HOLD THAT IN MY OPINION FOR ME VOTING
19:41:36 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WHETHER I VOTE YAY OR NAY FOR A
19:41:36 FENCE ISSUE.
19:41:40 >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE NO BEARING OR RELEVANCY IN MY
19:41:41 DECISION TONIGHT.
19:41:44 I WILL AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:41:47 ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE COUNCIL BEFORE WE TAKE A
19:41:47 MOTION TO CLOSE.
19:41:49 A MOTION TO CLOSE.
19:41:51 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
19:41:54 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:41:55 ALL IN FAVOR.
19:41:57 ANY OPPOSED?
19:42:00 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER YOU ARE NEXT ON 6.
19:42:02 COMFORTABLE READING THAT.
19:42:04 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE.
19:42:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL READ IT.
19:42:11 FILE NUMBER 6, FILE NO. REZ19-99.
19:42:14 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING OF REZONING
19:42:20 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4201 EAST 12TH
19:42:22 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
19:42:24 DESCRIBED SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
19:42:29 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL TO CG COMMERCIAL
19:42:31 GENERAL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:42:41 AND IF I RECALL, WHEN I READ THIS, THE -- THE ORDINANCE
19:42:49 FILE NUMBER FILE NO. REZ19-99 HAS MET THE BURDEN --
19:42:53 EUCLIDIAN HERE.
19:42:55 >> DID YOU SAY IT WAS EUCLIDIAN?
19:42:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EUCLIDIAN?
19:42:58 >> YES.
19:43:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS IT?
19:43:01 OKAY.
19:43:02 I AGREE.
19:43:07 MOVE AN ORDINANCE FILE NO. REZ19-99 AS THE APPLICANT
19:43:10 HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROVE FOR COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
19:43:12 EVIDENCE THAT THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:43:15 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY THAT HE MEETS ALL THE
19:43:19 QUALIFICATIONS AND CERTAINLY IF I READ IT RIGHT, HAS
19:43:22 BEEN APPROVED BY BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE
19:43:27 CITY OF TAMPA ZONING INDIVIDUALS WHO HANDLE THE PROCESS
19:43:28 FOR THE CITY.
19:43:31 AND I THINK THAT IS EVIDENCE.
19:43:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:43:33 DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
19:43:36 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
19:43:37 GUDES.
19:43:39 ALL IN FAVOR.
19:43:40 ANY OPPOSED?
19:43:45 >> THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
19:43:49 SECOND READ AND ADOPTION ON JANUARY 9, 2020 AT 9:30
19:43:49 A.M.
19:43:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
19:43:55 I WANT TO ADDRESS A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER INCORRECT ON
19:43:55 THE AGAIN.
19:43:58 MR. SHELBY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO ALERT ME AND I WANTED TO
19:44:01 ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL APOLOGIZE FOR FOLKS WAITING FOR
19:44:02 THIS.
19:44:05 RECENTLY ITEM NUMBER 15 WHEN ORIGINALLY SLATED
19:44:09 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE TOP -- OR SECOND ON THE
19:44:12 AGENDA, AND WE -- IT WASN'T SO REFLECTED.
19:44:14 SO RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YOU ARE HERE FOR 15.
19:44:16 I AM SORRY TO EVERYBODY.
19:44:18 WE JUST CAUGHT THAT.
19:44:19 SO OUR APOLOGIES.
19:44:21 >> IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:44:27 I WANT TO INFORM YOU AND -- THAT MR. GARDNER IS ON HIS
19:44:30 WAY BACK.
19:44:33 >>LUIS VIERA: AS SOON AS MR. TRUETT GARDNER GETS HERE,
19:44:36 WE WILL START WITH THAT.
19:44:37 OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES.
19:44:40 WE JUST CAUGHT THAT MISTAKE.
19:44:44 BELIEVE IT OR NOT, GOVERNMENTS MAKE MISTAKES.
19:44:49 NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
19:44:57 ANYONE HERE FOR 7?
19:44:59 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT
19:45:01 CORPORATION.
19:45:02 FILE NO. REZ19-100.
19:45:09 A REZONING ASK AT 3915 WEST OBISPO STREET FROM RS-60 TO
19:45:10 RS-50.
19:45:15 >> GOOD EVENING COUNCILMEMBERS, DAVID HEY WITH YOUR
19:45:15 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
19:45:16 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
19:45:20 WE MOVE DOWN TO SOUTH TAMPA FOR THIS NEXT CASE, MORE
19:45:30 SPECIFICALLY THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD THE.
19:45:30 THERE IS TRANSIT.
19:45:34 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS WITHIN ONE FOURTH OF A MILE
19:45:36 TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:45:41 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE
19:45:41 C.
19:45:45 AND THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS CORONA
19:45:48 PARK.
19:45:49 ON TO THE AERIAL.
19:45:51 THIS IS ZOOMED OUT ONE.
19:45:54 HERE WE HAVE GOT THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:45:56 YOU CAN SEE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE AREA IS SINGLE
19:45:58 FAMILY DETACHED AND CHARACTER.
19:46:01 REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE PATTERN IS LOCATED
19:46:06 RIGHT ALONG THE SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY CORRIDOR WHERE
19:46:09 YOU GET A MIXTURE OF OFFICE USES, AND THEN COMMERCIAL
19:46:14 USES AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH.
19:46:19 THERE IS LARGER LOT RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH OF BAY TO
19:46:20 BAY BOULEVARD.
19:46:23 YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT PATTERN.
19:46:27 ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
19:46:29 THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THE PARCELS SURROUNDING THAT
19:46:32 IN THE TAN COLOR ARE THE RESIDENTIAL 10.
19:46:37 IF YOU MOVE EAST OVER TOWARD DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, THAT
19:46:39 BROWN REPRESENTS THE RESIDENTIAL 20.
19:46:43 DALE MABRY GETS MORE INTENSIVE AS YOU GO SOUTH.
19:46:45 THE PINK IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, AND THEN YOU
19:46:49 CAN SEE THAT LARGER LOT PATTERN NORTH OF BAY TO BAY
19:46:52 REPRESENTED BY THE YELLOW.
19:46:59 THAT IS THE RESIDENTIAL 6 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
19:47:04 THE -- LET'S SEE.
19:47:07 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
19:47:10 APPLICATION AND FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE
19:47:11 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:47:16 THIS PORTION OF WEST OBISPO STREET EXCLUDING THE
19:47:21 SUBJECT SITE HAS A DENSITY 6.09 -- 6.09 UNITS PER ACRE.
19:47:25 THAT IS BASED ON 16 SAMPLE SITES ON THAT BLOCK.
19:47:27 THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF TWO
19:47:35 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCES AT DENSITY OF.7 UNITS
19:47:40 PER ACRE WHICH IS CONSISTENT TO THE DENSITY UNDER THE
19:47:42 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
19:47:44 THE PROPOSED REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR A DEVELOPMENT
19:47:46 SIMILAR IN FORM, HEIGHT AND SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING
19:47:51 RESIDENTIAL USES FOUND ALONG THIS PORTION OF WEST
19:47:54 OBISPO STREET.
19:47:57 THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE
19:48:00 COMPREHENSIVE HEN SIEVE PLAN IN THE CITY'S HOUSING
19:48:04 POPULATION AND THE CITY'S POPULATION SUPPORTING ROLE AS
19:48:06 THE -- FOR THE WHOLE REGION.
19:48:11 THE REGION IS ANTICIPATED FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF
19:48:15 POPULATION AND THE CITY IS PROGRAMMED TO ACCEPT SOME OF
19:48:15 THAT.
19:48:21 SO BASED ON THAT, THE -- AND THAT THE REQUEST -- STAFF
19:48:23 FOUND THE REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH
19:48:26 THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WITHIN THIS SECTION OF
19:48:27 VIRGINIA PARK.
19:48:30 AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING
19:48:33 COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT
19:48:36 WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
19:48:39 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:48:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:48:40 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:48:46 THANK YOU.
19:48:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU, MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING
19:48:50 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:48:54 AS I SAID PROPERTY LOCATE AT 3815 WEST OBISPO STREET.
19:48:59 THEY ARE REQUESTING A REZONING FROM R 60 TO RS-50.
19:49:02 DAVID SHOWED YOU THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
19:49:05 IN RELATION TO THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:49:10 HERE IS THE PHOTOGRAPHIC TOUR OF THE STREET ON BOTH
19:49:10 SIDES.
19:49:12 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
19:49:14 GOING TO THE EAST.
19:49:16 THESE STREETS -- THESE PHOTOS ARE TAKEN FROM THE STREET
19:49:20 SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY AND THE CLOSENESS OF THE
19:49:20 HOUSES.
19:49:24 THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET.
19:49:31 SOME OLDER HOUSES AND NEW DEVELOPED HOUSES.
19:49:36 AND, AGAIN, DIRECTLY JUST -- THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
19:49:41 THIS IS HISTORICALLY PLATTED LOTS 17 AND 18, BLOCK 47
19:49:43 AT VIRGINIA PARK.
19:49:47 BOTH LOTS ARE -- WERE ORIGINALLY PLATTED AT 50 X 100.
19:49:51 AND THE ENTIRE EXISTING LOT IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
19:49:53 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED FIVE BLOCKS TO THE EAST OF THE
19:50:00 WEST OBISPO STREET SOUTH CHURCH AVENUE INTERSECTION.
19:50:04 WITH THESE TYPES OF ANALYSIS, WE LOOK AT THE
19:50:12 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
19:50:17 THIS IS THE MAP THAT IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
19:50:21 HOWEVER, WHEN THESE NEWLY CREATED MAPS ARE GENERATED,
19:50:24 WE ARE -- THEY ARE USED PROPERTY -- HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
19:50:27 PROPERTY APPRAISER INFORMATION TO GENERATE THROUGH OUR
19:50:29 GIS SYSTEM.
19:50:32 UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF NEW LAWS OF CONFIDENTIAL
19:50:36 PROPERTIES ARE NO LONGER -- ARE NO LONGER CAPTURED BEEN
19:50:38 THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEB SITE.
19:50:41 SO THOSE COME UP AS VOID.
19:50:42 PROPERTIES ON THE MAP.
19:50:48 TO CORRECT THE MAP, WE HAVE DONE A HAND ANALYSIS AND
19:50:50 MEASURED THOSE THREE LOTS.
19:50:54 AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE REFLECTED IN STAFF REPORT IN THE
19:50:58 -- IN THE PERCENTAGES I WILL NOW STATE.
19:51:05 I WILL HAND OUT A COPY OF A REVISED MAP AS WELL.
19:51:11 SO WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AGAIN, THE VIRGINIA
19:51:17 PARK NEIGHBORHOOD WAS PLATTED WITH 56 BLOCKS.
19:51:20 THE OVERALL ANALYSIS AREA IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE
19:51:25 VIRGINIA PARK PLAT AND 110 LOTS WERE EVALUATED.
19:51:30 45% WERE DEVELOPED LOTS AT 60 FEET FOR GREATER AND 55
19:51:33 ARE LESS THAN 60 FEET WIDE.
19:51:37 PURSUANT TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, THE
19:51:41 SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 17 LOTS.
19:51:46 59% OR 60 FEET OR GREATER AND THE REMAINING 41% ARE
19:51:48 LESS THAN 60 FEET WIDE.
19:51:52 FOR THE 3800 BLOCK OF OBISPO WHICH IS BOTH SIDES OF THE
19:51:57 STREET, A TOTAL OF 18 LOTS ARE LOCATED IN THAT BLOCK.
19:52:02 39% OR GREATER THAN 60 FEET WIDE AND 61% ARE LESS THAN
19:52:03 60 FEET WIDE.
19:52:08 AND THEN FOR THE SUBJECT BLOCK FACE, IT IS A 50/50
19:52:12 SPLIT BETWEEN LOTS THAT ARE 60 FEET OR WIDER.
19:52:16 AND THEN LESS THAN.
19:52:19 AS FAR AS READING THE MAP, YOU CAN SEE THAT PER THE
19:52:25 LEGEND, LOTS THAT -- THE BLUE COLOR STARTING AT THE
19:52:29 BLUE, WE ARE GOING AT 59 FEET AND SMALLER OF THE BLUE
19:52:29 COLORS.
19:52:32 GOING INTO GRAY.
19:52:38 AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS LARGER THAN 60 FEET WIDE AS
19:52:40 FAR AS EASE FOR LOOKING AT THESE MAPS.
19:52:43 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REQUESTED REZONING IS
19:52:45 CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
19:52:48 STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE
19:52:55 SIX-BLOCK STUDY AND 3600 BLOCK OF WEST OBISPO STREET
19:52:59 CONSISTS MAJORITY OF LOT LESS THAN 60 FEET WIDE.
19:53:02 THE SUBJECT LOT FACE IS PROPOSED EQUIVALENT PERCENTAGE
19:53:05 OF LOTS OF GREATER OR LESS THAN 60 FEET IN WIDTH.
19:53:09 STAFF RECOGNIZES THAT THE SUBJECT HAS A MAJORITY OF
19:53:12 LOTS WITH LOTS GREATER THAN 60 FEET IN WIDTH.
19:53:16 HOWEVER, THE WELL DEFINED PATTERN OF THE BLOCK FACE AND
19:53:21 THE 3600 BLOCK OF WEST OBISPO IS LESS THAN 60 FEET WIDE
19:53:25 IN WIDTH AND STAR HAS PROPOSED A RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF
19:53:27 THE ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOTS CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:53:28 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
19:53:31 AGAIN YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THESE BLUE LOTS ARE LESS THAN
19:53:33 60 FEET WIDE.
19:53:35 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND ACROSS THE STREET
19:53:38 THESE ARE ALL LESS THAN 60.
19:53:42 TYPICALLY ONE LOT PER ONE HISTORICALLY PLOTTED LOT AT
19:53:44 50 FEET WIDE PER ONE HOUSE.
19:53:48 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE PROPERTY.
19:53:52 THERE IS EUCLIDIAN ZONING, SO NO SITE PLAN TO EVALUATE
19:53:55 AND NO WAIVERS TO APPROVE.
19:53:58 CITING THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF DID FIND THIS
19:54:00 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
19:54:03 BASED ON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE
19:54:04 IMMEDIATE AREA.
19:54:06 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?
19:54:10 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
19:54:11 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
19:54:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
19:54:25 >> GOOD EVENING, I AM CHARLES KITZMILLER, 142 BANBERRY
19:54:26 WAY.
19:54:27 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
19:54:33 MY CLIENTS ARE HOMEOWNERS THAT BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN
19:54:35 1978.
19:54:37 THEY HAVE LIVED THERE 41 YEARS.
19:54:38 THEY ARE IN THEIR MID-80S.
19:54:41 THEY TRIED TO SELL THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE PROPERTY.
19:54:45 IT HATS BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR 419 DAYS.
19:54:50 A 74-YEAR-OLD HOUSE THAT THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH
19:54:52 MAINTAINING AS THEY GET OLDER.
19:54:57 THEY REALLY JUST NEED TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND GET OUT.
19:55:02 THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT AND WITHIN THE PATTERN OF
19:55:04 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING ON THE STREET IS TO SPLIT
19:55:07 THE LOTS.
19:55:11 AS STAFF SAID, HERE WE ARE WITH THESE TWO EUCLIDIAN
19:55:12 LOTS.
19:55:14 THESE ARE 50-FOOT LOTS.
19:55:17 THOSE ARE 50-FOOT LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH
19:55:18 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
19:55:24 SO WE ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS REZONING THE RS-50.
19:55:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:55:27 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
19:55:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
19:55:31 ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT PUBLICLY ON ITEM NUMBER 7?
19:55:34 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
19:55:35 QUITE A FEW.
19:55:40 PLEASE COME FORWARD.
19:55:45 JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD IDEA, HOW MANY FOLKS HERE --
19:55:47 IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HANDS ARE HERE TO COMMENT ON
19:56:08 NUMBER 7, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- OKAY.
19:56:09 >> MR. CONNOLLY HAS THREE NAMES.
19:56:11 PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE.
19:56:14 PATRICIA CLOSE.
19:56:14 >> HERE.
19:56:15 >> THANK YOU.
19:56:18 LEANN EISENER.
19:56:19 DID I SAY THAT.
19:56:23 AND TAMARA ZELL.
19:56:28 THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
19:56:30 >> ONE THING I NOTICED WHEN THE STAFF WAS BRIEFING YOU,
19:56:33 NONE OF THE CHARTS WERE BEING SHOWN WHEN THEY WERE
19:56:34 BRIEFING IT TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS.
19:56:40 NONE OF NEWS THE AUDIENCE EVER SAW ANY OF THAT.
19:56:43 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:56:45 >> MY NAME IS THOMAS CONNOLLY.
19:56:46 I SWORN IN.
19:56:49 WEST PALMYRA AVENUE AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE VIRGINIA
19:56:51 PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
19:56:54 THE VIRGINIA PARK SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED AS
19:57:00 STAFF STAYED IN 50 TO 55 FOOT AND 100-FOOT.
19:57:04 THE HISTORICAL PRECEDENCE WAS TO BUILD ONE HOME OR
19:57:09 HOUSE ON MULTIPLE PLATTED LOTS OR ZONING.
19:57:12 IT IS APPARENT FROM WHAT IS STANDING ON THE ESTABLISHED
19:57:15 LOT IS THE ESTABLISHED PHYSICAL PATTERN AND CHARACTER
19:57:17 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN OBSERVATION OF FACT WAS PUT IN
19:57:20 THE RECORD BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AT A SIMILAR
19:57:23 HEARING IN 13 SEPTEMBER, 2018.
19:57:27 APPLYING POLICY 9.3.OF THE ANALYSIS OF THE PHYSICAL
19:57:29 CHARACTERISTICS OF THE VIRGINIA PARK SUPPORTS FINDING
19:57:32 OF INCONSISTENT FOR THE PROPOSED SPOT REZONING TO A
19:57:34 RS-50 ZONING.
19:57:37 WHEN CONDUCTING THE ANALYSIS, STAFF IS ONLY ALLOWED TO
19:57:40 CONSIDER THE SAME ZONING DESIGNATION FOR ITS REVIEW.
19:57:45 FOR THIS PORTION OF VIRGINIA PARK, THE ZONING IS RS-60
19:57:48 RESIDENTIAL AND ZONING DESIGNATION CAN BE COMPARED.
19:57:52 ANY OTHER APPROVED ZONING CHANGES TO ANYTHING OTHER
19:57:56 THAN THE RS-60 SHOULD NOBODY CONSIDERED WITH THE
19:57:57 PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:58:00 ANY DEVELOPED LOT IN THE PARCEL IN THE CONFINES OF
19:58:04 VIRGINIA PARK THAT IS CHANGED MUST BE EXCLUDED FROM THE
19:58:04 ANALYSIS.
19:58:07 STAFF DID THIS FOR THE PORTION EAST OF THE SOUTH DALE
19:58:10 MABRY HIGHWAY DEPICTED ON THEIR CHART AS VERA AVENUE
19:58:13 BECAUSE THIS AREA WAS ZONED AT RS-50.
19:58:16 STAFF IS ALSO NOT COUNTED THE COMMERCIAL USES WITH ONE
19:58:19 EXCEPTION IN THEIR ANALYSIS THAT INCLUDED ONE IN 100
19:58:24 PLUS THAT WAS ACTUALLY MALIO JEWELERS AND AN OFFICE
19:58:24 BUILDING.
19:58:29 SO USING THIS METHODOLOGY, I ANALYZED THE BUFFER MAP BY
19:58:34 THE PLANNING INFORMATION MAP PIMA EXCLUDING ALL LOTS
19:58:39 NOT DESIGNATED AS MAP 60 AND HOW THE PLANNING STAFF
19:58:41 CONDUCTS THEIR ANALYSIS.
19:58:45 AND THE CHART HERE SHOWS THE -- USING PIMA, WHAT IT
19:58:47 ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE.
19:58:51 AND THIS IS A BLOW-UP SHOWING THE PORTIONS THAT WERE
19:58:54 NOT INCLUDED.
19:58:59 PORTION EAST ON DALE MABRY AND THEN ANY DEVELOPED
19:59:02 PARCEL THAT WAS NOT R-60.
19:59:08 SO THE OVERALL AREA ANALYSIS INCLUDES 36 6 ZONING LOTS
19:59:11 NOT THE 120 FROM THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:59:15 BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT THE STREET 3300 BLOCK
19:59:18 OF OBISPO BUT THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:59:21 USING THAT BUFFER WITH CREATION OF NEW LOTS, REDUCTION
19:59:24 OF LOTS AND YARD DIMENSION, THE ONLY LOTS INCLUDED IN
19:59:28 THIS BUFFER DATA IS RS-60.
19:59:31 ALL OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS ARE EXCLUDED AND ALL LOTS
19:59:33 EAST OF SOUTH DALE MABRY.
19:59:38 A TOTAL OF 267 LOTS OR 73% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
19:59:40 FRONT 60 FOOT OR GREATER.
19:59:43 TO TOTAL OF 99 LOTS OR 27% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH
19:59:46 A FRONT OF 59.99 TO 50 FOOT.
19:59:55 BASED ON THIS ANALYSIS TO REZONE TO RS-50 DESIGNATION
19:59:59 IS INCONSISTENT AND NOT IN CONFORMANCE.THE
20:00:02 PHYSICAL PATTERN AND THE SURROUNDING AREA AND SHOULD BE
20:00:09 DENIED ON 9.8.18 AND 27.136 SUBSECTIONS NUMBER 6 AND 9.
20:00:15 NOW I DIDN'T GET A COPY OF THE CORRECTED RED, BLUE,
20:00:20 YELLOW, MAUVE CHART THAT THE -- THAT THE STAFF PUT UP.
20:00:24 BUT THIS IS MARKED UP ON THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE
20:00:26 ORIGINAL PACKAGE.
20:00:31 AND BASED ON THAT, YOU COULD SEE -- MY PRINTER WASN'T
20:00:35 AS GOOD AS YOURS, BUT THOSE THAT HAD THE 50 AT A
20:00:40 PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL WAS CHANGED AND DESIGNATED RS-50.
20:00:43 THE ONE HERE IS A ONE-STORY OFFICE AND THE ONE DOWN
20:00:46 HERE THAT SAYS STRIP CENTER WHICH IS A NULL WAS A
20:00:48 COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER.
20:00:49 THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED.
20:00:53 IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ANALYSIS, THEN IN THE 50 TO 54
20:00:58 RANGE, THAT IS 40 OF THE SUBJECT PARCELS OUT OF A 98
20:01:04 USING THEIR SIX BLOCK AND 40.8% GREATER THAN 60 IS 48
20:01:07 OUT OF 98 FOR 49%.
20:01:14 AND IN BETWEEN THE 50 TO 59 IS 8.2% WITH ONLY TWO
20:01:18 PROPERTIES NOT BEING COUNTED BECAUSE IN NULL AND THEY
20:01:20 ARE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, JUDICIAL OR WHATEVER.
20:01:22 I WILL CONCEDE THAT THEY ARE 50 FEET.
20:01:25 WE LOOKED AT THEM ALSO.
20:01:32 SO CORRECTING FOR ALL OF THAT, I -- I SUBMIT THAT THE
20:01:36 AREA OF ANALYSIS IS NOT THE BLOCK FACE AND HOW IT IS T
20:01:39 LOOKS, BUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN
20:01:41 DESIGNATED AS VIRGINIA PARK.
20:01:45 THAT THE PLATTED LOTS AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID,
20:01:48 THEY MAY HAVE BEEN DONE THAT WAY BACK NOTICE '20S OR
20:01:52 1915, BUT THE HISTORIC PATTERN DEVELOPMENT SINCE THAT
20:01:54 TIME IS ONE HOME ON MULTIPLE LOTS.
20:02:01 IF YOU USE THE 1320 FOOT BUFFER AND DESIGNED AND THE
20:02:05 ONLY PLACE TO DEFINE IN THE WHOLE CODE IS THAT 27
20:02:07 SECTION AND THE ONLY PLACE THAT TALKS ABOUT AN ACTUAL
20:02:09 MEASUREMENT TO LOOK AT LOTS.
20:02:11 1320 FEET.
20:02:16 SO I AM ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL MOVE TO DENY FILE NO.
20:02:21 REZ19-100 BASED ON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
20:02:23 OF THE ESTABLISHED PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
20:02:27 DEVELOPED PARCELS GREATER THAN 60-FOOT FRONTS BY AN
20:02:30 OVERWHELMING MAJORITY 73% AS REFLECTED IN THE ANALYSIS
20:02:32 OF THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:02:37 THIS DENIAL IS SUPPORTED BY POLICIES 9.3.8 TAMPA CODE
20:02:42 27.136 PURPOSES SUBSECTIONS NUMBER 6 AND NUMBER 9.
20:02:42 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:02:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR FOR YOUR WORDS AND YOUR
20:02:45 TIME.
20:02:51 NEXT PLEASE.
20:02:58 >> HI, I LIVE AT 3817 WEST OBISPO.
20:03:00 I AM THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR.
20:03:05 TO THE HOUSE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
20:03:08 FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER DOING
20:03:12 SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO I MAY GO OVER.
20:03:15 BUT I HAVE A PETITION HERE THAT PEOPLE ON OUR BLOCK HAS
20:03:18 SIGNED SAYING THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF
20:03:26 SPLITTING THE -- HERE WE GO -- SPLITTING THE HOUSE.
20:03:32 SO I CAN SUBMIT THAT IF NEEDED.
20:03:36 OH, SURE, THANK YOU.
20:03:43 THIS IS A -- A COPY OF THE ZILLOW AD THAT IS ONLINE.
20:03:46 THE OWNER HAS HAD THIS -- IT IS TRUE.
20:03:50 THE OWNER HAS HAD THIS PROPERTY UP FOR SALE FOR ABOUT A
20:03:53 YEAR AND A HALF.
20:03:56 >> WOULD YOU MIND TURNING IT?
20:03:58 >> SORRY, IT IS NOT ON THE DISPLAY.
20:04:00 OH, THERE YOU GO.
20:04:01 IT IS ON THIS ONE.
20:04:03 THE OWNER HAD THIS ON SALE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
20:04:07 THE REASON IT HAVEN'T SOLD IS THAT HE IS SELLING IT AS
20:04:11 A TEAR DOWN AND ASKING $550,000 FOR IT.
20:04:16 I HAVE GOT TWO HOUSES OR THREE HOUSES I THINK ON THE
20:04:20 STREET THAT SOLD FOR LESS THAN THAT THAT WERE NOT
20:04:21 TEAR-DOWNS.
20:04:23 SO THAT IS WHY IT HAVEN'T SOLD.
20:04:28 AND HE IS ALWAYS BEEN -- HE HAS BEEN APPROACHING THIS A
20:04:31 -- WE CAN SPLIT THE LOT AND GET MORE MONEY FOR IT.
20:04:34 AND EVEN THE WRITE-UP IN IT TALKS ABOUT IT IS CURRENTLY
20:04:38 RS-60, BUT YOU CAN GET IT SPLIT TO -- THERE ARE OTHER
20:04:41 HOUSES NEARBY THAT ARE RS-50.
20:04:46 SO THAT IS WHY IT HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET SO LONG.
20:04:52 MY MAIN ISSUE WITH SPLITTING THE -- SPLITTING IT IS
20:04:55 TRAFFIC ON THE STREET.
20:04:59 WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE PARKING ON THE
20:05:02 STREET AND ADDING ANOTHER HOUSE WILL JUST MAKE IT
20:05:03 WORSE.
20:05:05 I MEAN, THERE ARE PICTURES.
20:05:08 THESE ARE JUST SOME DIFFERENT DAYS I WALKED OUT WITH MY
20:05:11 PHONE AND TOOK PICTURES OF THE STREET.
20:05:14 THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE PARKING ON IT.
20:05:18 MY PRINTER IS NOT VERY GOOD, I AM AFRAID, BUT THIS WAS
20:05:18 LAST NIGHT.
20:05:22 AND YOU CAN SEE THIS WHOLE AREA HERE IS JUST FULL OF
20:05:25 CARS.
20:05:28 SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST -- THAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
20:05:30 YOU PUT ANOTHER HOUSE ON THE STREET, THERE ARE EVEN
20:05:31 MORE CARS.
20:05:36 I HAVE BEEN BLOCKED INTO MY DRIVEWAY NOT HAVING TO
20:05:40 MANEUVER WEIRDLY TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY BECAUSE
20:05:43 THERE ARE SO MANY CARS PARKED ON THE STREET ALREADY.
20:05:47 THE SOLID WASTE TRUCKS HAD TO START HONKING THEIR HORNS
20:05:50 TO GET PEOPLE TO COME OUT TO MOVE THEIR CARS SO THEY
20:05:51 CAN GET THROUGH.
20:05:54 BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE PARKING ON THE
20:05:54 STREETS.
20:06:00 YOU ADD ONE MORE HOUSE, AND IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE
20:06:01 PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREETS.
20:06:01 THANK YOU.
20:06:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BEFORE
20:06:05 YOU GO, SIR.
20:06:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIR, I HAVE A QUESTION.
20:06:08 >> YES.
20:06:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA BUT NOT
20:06:13 THE SPECIFIC BLOCK IN TERMS OF HOUSE BY HOUSE.
20:06:15 SO YOU ARE AT -- YOU SAID YOU ARE 3817 --
20:06:17 >> 17.
20:06:19 I AM WEST -- WEST OF HIM.
20:06:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO GOING TO THE EAST ON OUR -- ON
20:06:27 OUR MAP, I SEE ONE, TWO -- AT LEAST THREE HOUSES --
20:06:30 THREE PROPERTIES BEFORE I GET TO DALE MABRY AND I AM
20:06:32 GOING TO ASSUME THE CORNER OF DALE MABRY.
20:06:37 >> ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- FOUR HOUSES AND THEN A
20:06:37 BUSINESS.
20:06:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOUR HOUSES AND THEN A BUSINESS,
20:06:42 OKAY.
20:06:47 I HAVE A REASON FOR ASKING THIS, BUT FOUR HOUSES BEFORE
20:06:52 YOU GET TO THE BUSINESS, ARE THEY OLDER OR NEWER?
20:06:54 >> MIKE'S IS OLD.
20:06:58 THEN YOU HAVE GOT THE PERSON NEXT TO HIM IS AN OLD
20:06:58 HOUSE.
20:07:00 THEN YOU GOT A NEW HOUSE.
20:07:02 AND I THINK THE LAST ONE IS OLD.
20:07:05 I AM NOT -- I AM NOT SURE.
20:07:06 IT DOESN'T LOOK NEW.
20:07:10 SO I AM ASSUMING IT IS KIND OF THE SAME TIME FRAME.
20:07:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS A CONCERN --
20:07:13 >> MINE IS A NEW HOUSE.
20:07:17 I ADMIT IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A TEAR DOWN.
20:07:19 WE BOUGHT.FOUR YEARS AGO.
20:07:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I GUESS THERE IS A CONCERN IN
20:07:23 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THOSE
20:07:27 REMAINING THREE OR FOUR LOTS?
20:07:30 THE POTENTIAL TEAR DOWNS ON THOSE THREE?
20:07:31 >> NO, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY --
20:07:33 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY BEFOREHAND.
20:07:37 LET ME ASK THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE TO KEEP COMMENTS
20:07:41 -- OR I SHOULD SAY CONVERSATIONS TO A MINIMUM.
20:07:44 >> I WOULDN'T SAY ON OUR BLOCK IT IS AN ISSUE DON'T
20:07:45 WANT A TEAR DOWN.
20:07:47 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER HOUSE BEING BUILT THERE,
20:07:52 I JUST DON'T WANT TWO HOUSES BEING BUILT THERE.
20:07:56 AS I SAID MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2006, I THINK.
20:07:58 SO IT IS OBVIOUSLY A NEW HOUSE.
20:08:01 PROBABLY MORE THAN HALF OF THE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE
20:08:02 OF THE STREET ARE NEW.
20:08:07 WE JUST DON'T WANT TWO HOUSES INSTEAD OF ONE.
20:08:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:08:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR FIRST TIME UP HERE?
20:08:12 >> YES.
20:08:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU DID WELL, ROOKIE.
20:08:15 >> THANKS.
20:08:16 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:08:18 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, PLEASE.
20:08:19 >> THANK YOU.
20:08:21 DR. JOANNA SULLIVAN.
20:08:27 I AM -- I ALSO LIFE 3817.
20:08:30 CO-OWNER AND NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE HOUSE.
20:08:32 I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO AFFIRM WHAT HE SAID.
20:08:34 WE HAVE KNOWN MIKE, THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR QUITE SOME
20:08:34 TIME.
20:08:37 LOVELY MAN AND HIS WIFE.
20:08:41 BUT THEY JUST -- THEY HAVE NOT CONSIDERED ANY OTHER
20:08:43 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS PROPERTY.
20:08:47 THEY ARE ONLY LOOKING AT GETTING IT SPLIT INTO TWO TO
20:08:49 GET TOP DOLLAR FROM A BUILDER.
20:08:53 THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE DOING THIS.
20:08:57 LIKE MY HUSBAND, I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
20:09:00 IT IS VERY COMMON THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH STREET
20:09:01 PARKING.
20:09:06 AND THERE IS A CITY ORDINANCE THAT IS SECTION 15.43
20:09:13 THAT I CAN PUT UP HERE THAT IS FREQUENTLY -- IT'S
20:09:17 FREQUENTLY VIOLATED.
20:09:19 WE VERY COMMONLY HAVE PEOPLE PARKING RIGHT UP TO THE
20:09:21 EDGE OF OUR DRIVEWAY.
20:09:28 SOMETIMES ON BOTH SIDES AND WE ALL THE TIME HAVE PEOPLE
20:09:30 PARKING BEHIND OUR DRIVEWAY.
20:09:33 I PERSONALLY HAVE BACKED INTO SOMEONE WHO PARKED BEHIND
20:09:33 ME.
20:09:35 I KIND OF RAN IN THE HOUSE FOR SOMETHING.
20:09:36 THEY PULLED IN BEHIND ME.
20:09:39 I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A CAR BEHIND ME AT THIS
20:09:43 POINT AND I RAN INTO THEM, $1600 LATER BECAUSE I BACK
20:09:45 INTO THE SIDE OF THEIR CAR AND EVERYTHING.
20:09:49 AND THAT IS NOT UNCOMMON.
20:09:54 THAT HAPPEN -- HAPPENED TO SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND
20:09:57 THERE IS NO WAY TO COMPLY WITH THIS ORDINANCE AND
20:09:58 STREET PARK ON OUR STREET.
20:10:01 IN A NUMBER OF PLACES IT IS LESS THAN 20 FEET WIDE.
20:10:06 AND IT SAYS IT IS UNLAWFUL TO PARK BEHIND SOMEONE'S
20:10:08 DRIVEWAY IF IT IS LESS THAN 25 FEET.
20:10:09 I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
20:10:15 ISSUING A CITATION OR A PARKING VIOLATION FOR ANY OF
20:10:16 THOSE PEOPLE.
20:10:18 SOMETIMES THEY ARE THERE DAYS AT A TIME.
20:10:21 I HAVE NO IDEA WHOSE CARS IT -- EVEN IS.
20:10:23 WE GET TRAFFIC FROM BUSINESS.
20:10:27 WE GET A LOT OF THOROUGH TRAFFIC FROM MABRY TO CHURCH
20:10:28 AS WELL.
20:10:32 AND AS MY HUSBAND WAS SAYING, WE -- I WORK FROM HOME.
20:10:35 SO I AM THERE DURING THE DAY, AND I OFTEN HAVE PEOPLE
20:10:38 BEATING ON MY DOOR ASKING ME, DO YOU KNOW WHOSE CAR
20:10:39 THIS IS?
20:10:41 CAN YOU GET THEM TO MOVE IT.
20:10:44 BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GET THEIR VEHICLE THROUGH.
20:10:47 ANYTHING THAT IS BIGGER THAN A SMALL CAR.
20:10:50 SOUTHWEST DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.
20:10:53 WE HAVE HAD SOME PIPE WORK RECENTLY WHERE THEY COULDN'T
20:10:54 GET THEIR TRUCKS THROUGH.
20:10:55 THINGS LIKE THAT.
20:10:58 I AM -- I AM A HEALTH PROFESSIONAL.
20:11:03 WE HAVEN'T GOD FORBID HAD A FIRE OR MEDICAL EMERGENCY,
20:11:07 BUT I HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRESS
20:11:10 UPON YOU ON THAT, IF SOMEONE HAD A HEART ATTACK OR
20:11:13 STROKE ON MY STREET, THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET AN
20:11:17 EMERGENCY VEHICLE THROUGH AND EVERYTHING.
20:11:20 AND AN ADDITIONAL HOUSE WHERE THERE WAS JUST ONE WOULD
20:11:22 REALLY IMPAIR THAT.
20:11:23 SO THANK YOU.
20:11:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
20:11:26 WE APPRECIATE IT.
20:11:40 NEXT, PLEASE.
20:11:42 >> GOOD EVENING, TERRY ROCK.
20:11:49 I LIVE 3910 WEST OBISPO STREET AND I LIVE ONE BLOCK
20:11:52 DOWN.
20:11:57 I AM AN AUTHORITARIAN BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THERE 42
20:11:57 YEARS.
20:12:00 I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE BACK INTO CARS.
20:12:02 MY HUSBAND HAS DONE IT THE SAME WAY SHE WAS JUST
20:12:03 TALKING ABOUT.
20:12:11 THE STREET VARIES FROM 16 ALMOST FEET IN ONE AREA TO
20:12:13 20ISH IN OTHER AREAS.
20:12:19 A CITY OF TAMPA FIRE TRUCK TRADITIONALLY IS 10 FEET
20:12:19 WIDE.
20:12:23 THE SANITATION TRUCKS ARE 14 FEET WIDE.
20:12:27 WE CONSTANTLY HEAR THE SANITATION TRUCKS AT 6 A.M. --
20:12:31 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:12:33 THEY ARE -- THEY ARE HONKING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET
20:12:34 THROUGH.
20:12:39 I PERSONALLY DRIVE A RAM 1500.
20:12:44 AND YESTERDAY I HAD TO HONK BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE PARKED
20:12:46 FROM THE JEWELRY STORE THAT IS ON THE CORNER AND THE
20:12:51 PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET WERE SO CLOSE THERE WAS NO
20:12:53 GETTING THROUGH.
20:12:56 FORGET A FIRE TRUCK OR A SANITATION TRUCK GETTING
20:12:58 THROUGH.
20:13:02 SO INFORMATION I HAVE THAT GIVEN YOU IS ABOUT THE ROAD
20:13:03 RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND EVERYTHING.
20:13:08 AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT -- THAT ANOTHER HOUSE NOT
20:13:11 BE ADDED ON THIS BLOCK.
20:13:13 WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE HOUSE BEING TORN DOWN AND
20:13:15 A NEW HOUSE BEING BUILT.
20:13:18 I HAVE ADDED ON PERSONALLY TO MY HOUSE.
20:13:22 I HAVE A 75-FOOT-WIDE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
20:13:25 BUT, YOU KNOW, TO -- TO ADD IN MORE CARS.
20:13:29 I PERSONALLY HAVE SIGNS ON EACH SIDE OF MY DRIVEWAY --
20:13:31 I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT A PICTURE OF IT.
20:13:35 I DIDN'T THAT SAYS PLEASE DO NOT BLOCK MY DRIVEWAY.
20:13:36 THAT IS IN MY BLOCK.
20:13:40 THEIR BLOCK IS ACTUALLY MORE NARROW THAN -- THAN MINE
20:13:42 IS.
20:13:44 AND SOME WE ARE HERE TO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE
20:13:47 DON'T ALLOW THIS TO GO THROUGH.
20:13:50 WE HAVE TROUBLES ON A DAILY BASIS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE
20:13:54 JEWELRY STORE WENT IN, WHICH WE WERE TOLD WOULD NOT
20:13:56 IMPACT OUR STREET WHATSOEVER.
20:13:59 BUT ON A DAILY BASIS, WE HAVE TROUBLES GETTING FROM
20:14:03 DALE MABRY TO MY BLOCK.
20:14:08 SO AS FAR AS LETTING THIS GO THROUGH, AS A
20:14:10 NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DON'T WANT IT.
20:14:12 AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE GOT.
20:14:16 WE DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE OF THE -- THIS LOT SPLITTING
20:14:21 THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE FOUGHT FOR CLOSE TO 30 YEARS
20:14:23 NOW.
20:14:23 PLEASE DON'T DO IT.
20:14:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
20:14:26 WE APPRECIATE IT.
20:14:28 NEXT, PLEASE.
20:14:30 AND IS THIS THE LAST WEEK ON THIS ITEM?
20:14:31 I AM JUST MAKING SURE.
20:14:33 OKAY.
20:14:40 GO AHEAD.
20:14:56 MISS BENNETT HAS 11 NAMES.
20:15:00 WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH SEVEN OF THEM.
20:15:01 MIKE FANNING.
20:15:02 ARE YOU HERE?
20:15:03 MIKE FANNING.
20:15:07 STEPHANIE POINTER?
20:15:15 RITA MARIE ZAMANSKI, WILL CAN HAND.
20:15:16 MICHELLE CAN HAND.
20:15:20 JEFFREY NATELSKI, THANK YOU.
20:15:21 STEVE WYATT?
20:15:22 STEVE WYATT?
20:15:24 GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
20:15:30 JENNIFER STAD -- SOMETHING.
20:15:32 NO.
20:15:37 VIVIAN HEART -- IS VIVIAN HART HERE?
20:15:38 ARE YOU RIGHT IN THE FRONT?
20:15:39 OKAY.
20:15:42 WE ARE AT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN NAMES
20:15:48 WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED A TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
20:15:50 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT, TAKE AWAY.
20:15:54 >> CAROLYN BENNETT THE TREASURER OF THE VIRGINIA PARK
20:15:55 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
20:15:57 I LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA MY ENTIRE LIFE.
20:15:59 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS DORMANT FOR MANY
20:16:00 YEARS.
20:16:04 DURING THIS TIME RESIDENTS WERE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE OR
20:16:06 ORGANIZED ENOUGH TO FIGHT REZONINGS.
20:16:11 CONSEQUENTLY AN ALARMING NUMBER OF LOT SPLITS GOT
20:16:11 APPROVED.
20:16:15 WHEN THE ASSOCIATION WAS REVIVED A COUPLE YEARS AGO THE
20:16:17 OVERWHELMING TOP CONCERN WAS REZONING.
20:16:22 A WHOPPING 90% OF OUR RESIDENTS WERE AGAINST THEM.
20:16:25 BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF CITY COUNCIL AND
20:16:28 A VERY LARGE LEARNING CURVE WITH Y'ALL.
20:16:30 ALMOST 40 RESIDENTS CAME TO THE FIRST FOUR VIRGINIA
20:16:32 PARK REZONING HEARINGS.
20:16:35 WE HAD PETITIONS WITH OVER 300 SIGNATURES.
20:16:36 WE HAD DOZENS OF SPEAKERS.
20:16:40 OUR HEARINGS LASTED A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
20:16:42 ONE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT WHOSE CASE WAS AFTER OURS
20:16:44 SAID, I LEARN SOMETHING IMPORTANT TONIGHT.
20:16:47 I LEARNED I NEVER WANT TO BE SCHEDULED AFTER VIRGINIA
20:16:49 PARK AGAIN.
20:16:49 [LAUGHTER]
20:16:52 BUT WE WERE TOLD THAT IS NOT THE BEST WAY.
20:16:55 THAT IT IS BETTER TO BE STREAMLINED AND WON'T HELP IF
20:16:57 WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF PETITION SIGNATURES.
20:17:00 WE TOOK THAT ADVICE, BUT COULD BE DOZENS OF SPEAKERS
20:17:03 HERE TONIGHT AND REAMS OF PETITIONS.
20:17:08 DO NOT MISTAKE OUR EFFICIENCY FOR LACK OF PASSION.
20:17:13 ASKED TO CHANGE LAND DEV TO MORE THAN TWO COLORS.
20:17:17 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT YOU FOLLOWED
20:17:19 UP WITH THEM ON THAT.
20:17:23 YOU SEE HERE AN EXAMPLE THAT MISS COYLE THAT SHE
20:17:27 CHANGED THE MAPS TO SHOW A RANGE OF LOT SIZES AND
20:17:32 REFLECT A LARGER SAMPLES A DICTATED BY THE CITY CODE.
20:17:35 WE WERE QUITE DISMAYED WHEN WE SAW A SIX-BLOCK AREA WAS
20:17:37 EVALUATED.
20:17:40 AS TOM POINTED OUT, THEY DID NOT USE THEIR OWN RULE OF
20:17:42 EXCLUDING ALL OTHER ZONES.
20:17:43 THIS IS NOT NEW.
20:17:44 THIS IS THEIR RULE.
20:17:48 THE WORD SIX BLOCK OR NINE BLOCK AND NOWHERE IN THE
20:17:49 CITY CODE.
20:17:52 I KNOW THE COUNCIL IS STRONGLY BOUND BY THE CITY CODE.
20:17:55 SO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS.
20:17:59 SIX BLOCK AND NINE BLOCK IS NOT A STANDARD CITED
20:18:02 ANYWHERE AND ANYTHING.
20:18:05 1320 FEET, ONE QUARTER OF A MILE IS THE ONLY DISTANCE
20:18:08 THAT IS CODIFIED IN REVIEWING THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
20:18:09 OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:18:12 IT IS CITED THREE TIMES.
20:18:16 LAND DEV SAYS THAT PARTICULAR SECTION IS ABOUT THE
20:18:19 RECONFIGURATION OF AN EXISTING LOT BUT TO ME A
20:18:21 DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE.
20:18:24 1320 IS THE ONLY STANDARD THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
20:18:25 CODIFIED.
20:18:29 ALL THAT BEING SAID, NO MATTER HOW YOU COMPLICATE IT,
20:18:32 EVERY CALCULATION SHOWS THE BIG LOTS ARE THE MAJORITY
20:18:34 AND CLEARLY THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT.
20:18:37 THE APPLICATION SAY SHE IS WANT TO RETURN TO THE
20:18:38 ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:18:40 WELL, I AM ALL FOR THAT.
20:18:42 PLEASE DO SO.
20:18:44 THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
20:18:47 WAS EVEN BIGGER LOTS AND MORE GREEN SPACE AND LOWER
20:18:48 DENSITY.
20:18:53 IF IT WASN'T, THERE WOULD BE NO LOTS TO SPLIT.
20:18:56 AND THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT WITHIN AN INTENT
20:18:58 TO SELL THE EXTRA LOT.
20:19:01 THAT IS WHY THEY PUT THE HOUSES SMACK IN THE MIDDLE.
20:19:03 THEY DIDN'T THINK, OH, I WILL BUILD IN THE MIDDLE OF A
20:19:06 LOT AND THEN IT WILL BE WORTH A LOT MORE IN THE FUTURE
20:19:09 EVEN THOUGH THIS HOUSE WILL HAVE TO BE TORN DOWN.
20:19:11 MY PARENTS WERE OF THAT GENERATION.
20:19:13 BELIEVE ME THEY COULDN'T ENVISION THAT KIND OF WASTE.
20:19:16 THE ORIGINAL PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT HAD VERY, VERY FEW
20:19:18 HOUSES BUILT ON 50-FOOT LOTS.
20:19:23 THE VAST MAJORITY ON 60 TO OVER 100 FEET OF FRONTAGE.
20:19:26 MY NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE IS 104 FEET WIDE.
20:19:29 YES I SUPPORT THE SO-CALLED RETURNING TO THE ORIGINAL
20:19:32 PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE EVERY TIME THEY DIVIDE A
20:19:35 PARCEL THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY
20:19:40 GET FURTHER AWAY FROM IT, NOT CLOSER TO IT.
20:19:44 THE NEXT PROBLEM ON THIS REZONING IS THE FRONT SETBACK.
20:19:49 RS-60 REQUIRES A 25-FOOT FRONT SETBACK.
20:19:51 RS-50 REQUIRES A 20-FOOT SETBACK.
20:19:54 CARS HAVE CHANGED A LOT SINCE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS
20:19:56 ORIGINALLY PLATTED.
20:19:59 MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST 100 YEARS AND
20:20:05 CHARLIE HAS SEEN MOST OF THEM -- LAUGH.
20:20:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERYBODY PICKS ON ME.
20:20:10 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:20:13 >> AS YOU CAN SEE -- AS YOU CAN SEE, TODAY'S CARS
20:20:17 STRADDLE THE SIDEWALK WHEN THE FRONT SETBACK IS CHANGED
20:20:19 CREATING SAFETY ISSUES.
20:20:23 NOW THAT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL TO YOU, BUT I
20:20:25 KNOW A LITTLE BOY WHO WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU.
20:20:28 SHOWING THESE PICTURES HERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THESE
20:20:32 CARS WITH THE AUTHORITY DRIVEWAYS.
20:20:35 OUR VICE PRESIDENT IS OUT OF COUNTRY RIGHT NOW OR HE
20:20:38 WOULD BE HERE TO TILL THE STORY.
20:20:41 BIKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK WITH HIS TWO YOUNG SONS AND
20:20:44 ENCOUNTERED A DRIVEWAY TOO SHORT TO ACCOMMODATE THE
20:20:45 CAR.
20:20:47 THE EFFORTS TO STEER AROUND THE CAR TO GET BACK ON THE
20:20:51 SIDEWALK, KEVIN'S SON WENT HEAD FIRST INTO A SIDE VIEW
20:20:52 MIRROR.
20:20:57 YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE HE GOT THREE STITCHES.
20:21:01 AND HERE WHERE THIS -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE
20:21:03 BECAUSE OF THE GLARE.
20:21:07 THAT RIGHT -- OOPS -- RIGHT THERE.
20:21:09 RIGHT THERE.
20:21:13 THAT IS HIS SKIN AND HIS EYEBROW HAIRS ON THAT MIRROR.
20:21:18 CARS BLOCKING SIDEWAYS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND NOT JUST
20:21:19 CHILDREN.
20:21:21 I HAVE ELDERLY NEIGHBORS THAT WALK FOR EXERCISE AND USE
20:21:26 A CANE NAVIGATING AROUND THE SLOPE OF CARS ON A
20:21:28 SIDEWALK IS DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO NOT TO MENTION OUR
20:21:30 WHEELCHAIR BOUND NEIGHBORS.
20:21:33 SHORT DRIVEWAYS MEAN MORE CARS PARKED ON THE STREET.
20:21:36 MANY HOMES ON THIS BLOCK ARE OLDER AND DON'T HAVE THE
20:21:39 DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE NOW REQUIRED.
20:21:42 THREE DON'T HAVE A CARPORT OR GARAGE AND PARKING ON THE
20:21:45 STREET IS ALREADY AN ISSUE AS YOU HEARD AND THE STREET
20:21:47 IS NARROWER THAN THE CODE ALLOWS.
20:21:49 IT IS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE -- I MEAN THAT.
20:21:52 IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET DOWN THE
20:21:55 STREET EVEN WHEN CARS ARE PARKED LEGALLY.
20:21:58 NOT ILLEGALLY, BUT LEGALLY PARKED ON BOTH SIDES.
20:22:01 IF YOU HAD TWO MORE SHORT DRIVEWAYS TO THIS STREET, IT
20:22:04 WILL MAKE AN UNSAFE SITUATION EVEN MORE DANGEROUS.
20:22:07 THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOUTH TAMPA A OLD AND WAS NOT
20:22:10 DESIGNED FOR THIS POPULATION DENSITY.
20:22:13 EVERY CAR DRIVING OVER AND EVERY ADDITIONAL PIPE ADDED
20:22:16 TO IT ADDS A STRAIN THAT IS NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE AND
20:22:21 INCREASES THE BURDEN OF THE ALREADY OVERBURDENED
20:22:21 SYSTEM.
20:22:24 EASY TO THINK ONE MORE TOILET WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
20:22:25 THAT ISN'T TRUE.
20:22:28 IT ALL MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND ADD TO THE STRAIN OF THE
20:22:29 INFRASTRUCTURE.
20:22:32 THE 60-FOOT FRONTAGE A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS ADDRESS
20:22:33 SINCE 1966.
20:22:38 THE CURRENT OWNERS PURCHASED IF IN 1978 NO REASONABLE
20:22:43 EXPECTATIONS OF SPLITTING INTO TWO NONCONFORMING LOTS.
20:22:46 EVERY PERSON THAT PURCHASED PROPERTY AFTER 1956 HAD A
20:22:49 REAL LEGAL EXPECTATION THAT THE ZONING WOULD REQUIRE A
20:22:51 60-FOOT FRONTAGE.
20:22:54 EVERY NEIGHBOR HAS A VERY REAL LEGAL EXPECTATION OF THE
20:22:56 NEIGHBORHOOD'S INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER WILL BE
20:22:57 MAINTAINED.
20:23:00 THOSE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS UNDER FLORIDA LAW THAT ARE BEING
20:23:01 THREATENED.
20:23:03 THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IS SO IMPORTANT IN
20:23:05 TAMPA THAT IT IS CODIFIED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
20:23:08 I PERSONALLY COUNTED SEVEN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE CITY
20:23:09 CODE.
20:23:12 29 YEARS AND I ESTIMATE I WALKED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
20:23:13 8,000 TIMES.
20:23:16 THEREFORE I AM AN EXPERT ON THE CHARACTER OF THE
20:23:20 NEIGHBORHOOD AND GIVING CREDIBLE EVIDENCE.
20:23:22 I HAVE FRIENDS THAT WOULD HATE LIVING IN VIRGINIA PARK
20:23:25 COOKIE CUTTER HOUSES PAINTED IN FOUR DIFFERENT COLORS
20:23:29 AND EVERY HOUSE HAS THE EXACT SAME NUMBER OF BLADES OF
20:23:30 GLASS.
20:23:31 NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
20:23:32 THEY LIVED IN PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS AND THEY ARE QUITE
20:23:36 HAPPY, BUT PEOPLE WHO BUY IN VIRGINIA PARK HATE COOKIE
20:23:38 CUTTER.
20:23:40 THOSE ARE DIRTY WORDS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:23:43 I HAVE KNOCKED ON HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TALKING TO MY
20:23:44 NEIGHBORS ABOUT REZONING.
20:23:48 I CAN'T BEGIN TO COUNT HOW MANY ANGRY PEOPLE HAD TO
20:23:52 PRACTICALLY HISS TO ME "IT'S COOKIE CUTTER."
20:23:54 THEY LOVE THE CHARACTER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:23:57 THEY LOVE THE DIFFERENT SIZES, SHAPES, COLORS AND
20:23:58 DESIGNS.
20:24:01 THEY DON'T CONSIDER THESE NEW HOUSES GENTRIFICATION.
20:24:05 THEY CONSIDER IS GENERIC-FICATION.
20:24:10 YOU CAN EASILY SPOT THE SPOT SPLITS BECAUSE THE SAME
20:24:13 HOUSE SIDE BY SIDE LIKE TWINS.
20:24:15 YOU CAN PICK OUT THE LOT SPLITS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
20:24:20 BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT OF CHARACTER.
20:24:25 LIKE THIS.
20:24:31 WE WISH OUR HE DEPARTING NEIGHBORS THE BEST AND FOR THE
20:24:34 ABILITY TO TUG ON HEARTSTRINGS.
20:24:38 EVERY FAMILY HAS ITS SHARES OF FINANCIAL BURDENS.
20:24:42 NO ONE IS UNIQUE IN THAT AND INAPPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER
20:24:44 THAT WHEN MAKING THE DECISION.
20:24:47 IT IF YOU CAN'T RESIST FINANCIAL ARGUMENTS WOULD LIKE
20:24:50 POINT OUT THAT THE LAST THREE HOUSES IN VIRGINIA PARK
20:24:56 DENIED REZONING SOLD FOR 425, 457 AND 520,000 WHICH
20:25:01 DEFINITELY NOT BELOW MARKET VALLEY OR UNFAIR FOR A
20:25:02 HARDSHIP.
20:25:05 IN CLOSING, I ASK THAT YOU PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
20:25:08 RESPECT AND UPHOLD THE 62-YEAR-OLD ZONING REQUIREMENT
20:25:13 OF A MINIMUM 60 FOOT FRONTAGE IN VIRGINIA PARK.
20:25:16 I ASK THAT YOU RESPECT THE OVERWHELMING NEIGHBORHOOD
20:25:19 OPPOSITION TO THE SPOT ZONING AND RESPECT THE INTIMATE
20:25:27 KNOWLEDGE THAT WE THE RESIDENTS OF VIRGINIA PARK HAVE
20:25:28 OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:25:29 [APPLAUSE]
20:25:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH -- NO CLAPPING
20:25:33 PLEASE.
20:25:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:25:38 IF THE APPLICANT WISHES TO DO ANY REBUTTAL, NOW IS YOUR
20:25:39 TIME.
20:25:49 >> CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION?
20:25:54 MARY?
20:25:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ON OUR
20:25:59 OVERHEAD AND I HOPE THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE IT.
20:26:02 CAN Y'ALL SEE IT?
20:26:02 NOW THEY CAN.
20:26:06 SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS APPROXIMATELY -- LOOKS
20:26:11 LIKE SIX BLOCKS THAT YOU ALL -- TYPICAL -- TYPICAL
20:26:14 ANALYSIS.
20:26:17 THE YOUNG LADY BEFORE YOU SAID THERE IS NOWHERE IN THE
20:26:21 CODE THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THIS ANALYSIS, AND
20:26:26 THEY DID THIS QUARTER-MILE ANALYSIS.
20:26:28 CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT?
20:26:29 ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING HERE?
20:26:34 IS IT IN THE CODE OR A TECHNICAL STANDARD THAT -- THAT
20:26:38 HAS STAFF DOING THE SIX-BLOCK ANALYSIS VERSUS WHAT THEY
20:26:40 ARE PROPOSING?
20:26:43 OR ACTUALLY THEY CITED SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT
20:26:48 DID -- THAT DID CALL OUT THE QUARTER-MILE RADIUS.
20:26:50 ARE YOU FOLLOWING MY QUESTION?
20:26:52 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR, I UNDERSTAND.
20:26:54 THIS TYPE OF ANALYSIS.
20:26:57 THERE IS NO CODE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS TIME ANALYSIS.
20:27:00 THERE HAS NEVER BEEN.
20:27:04 CITY COUNCIL OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY CAN CERTAINLY DO A
20:27:07 CODE AMENDMENT TO QUALIFY AND GIVE CRITERIA HOW WE DO
20:27:10 THIS ANALYSIS, BUT NO CODE REQUIREMENTS HOW WE DO THESE
20:27:11 ANALYSIS.
20:27:14 FOR THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, THIS IS HOW STAFF HAS
20:27:16 CONSISTENTLY DONE THIS ANALYSIS FOR EVERY CASE.
20:27:19 WE LOOKED AT THE SUBJECT BLOCK, AND THEN WE TRIED TO
20:27:23 LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING NINE-BLOCK AREA APPLICABLE;
20:27:28 HOWEVER, IF IT IS AGAINST A MAJOR ROADWAY SUCH AS AN
20:27:32 ARTERIAL OR MAJOR COLLECTOR LIKE DALE MABRY.
20:27:35 WE DON'T CROSS DALE MABRY BECAUSE THE CHARACTER OF THAT
20:27:38 AREA ACROSS A MAJOR ROADWAY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE
20:27:40 SUBJECT -- THAN THE IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
20:27:41 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:27:45 THE CODE SECTION TOP CONTINUE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
20:27:49 THE CODE SECTION THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER
20:27:53 WAS DISCUSSING IS FOR LOT RECONFIGURATION.
20:27:55 AND THAT'S WHERE -- LET ME TRY TO FIND ONE.
20:27:57 IF YOU HAVE A CORNER LOT.
20:28:00 AND THE LOTS ARE CONFIGURED LIKE THIS WHERE THESE ARE
20:28:05 THE FRONTS, YOU DO THE 1320 ANALYSIS IF YOU WANTED TO
20:28:07 RECONFIGURE IT TO FACE THE OTHER STREET.
20:28:13 THAT IS WHERE THAT CODE SECTION APPLIES FOR.
20:28:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:28:18 I DON'T THINK WE HAVE BEEN DOING THESE FOR DECADES.
20:28:21 LIKE CHARLIE, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR
20:28:23 DECADES NOW.
20:28:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO TELL YOU
20:28:25 THAT.
20:28:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL AGREE.
20:28:29 I THINK IT HAS BEEN ABOUT 15 YEARS.
20:28:31 JUST SPLITTING HAIRS.
20:28:33 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME WHILE I
20:28:34 AM AT THE PODIUM?
20:28:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MAN.
20:28:43 REBUTTAL, SIR.
20:28:48 >> WHILE THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IS VARIED AND
20:28:50 WIDESPREAD, WE ARE MOSTLY CONCERNED OF THE STREET AND
20:28:54 THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING ALONG THIS STREET,
20:28:56 INCLUDING ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE LIVING NEXT DOOR
20:28:58 ON A 50-FOOT LOT.
20:29:00 THESE ARE 50-FOOT LOTS.
20:29:02 THOSE ARE 50-FOOT LOTS.
20:29:05 WE ARE TRYING TO REFLECT WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT
20:29:08 PATTERN ON THIS BLOCK.
20:29:09 PARKING ISSUES.
20:29:15 SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY MENTIONED THE JEWELRY STORE AROUND
20:29:16 THE CORNER.
20:29:19 THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT A REZONING CAN ADDRESS.
20:29:24 THAT IS ENFORCEMENT.
20:29:25 WIDTH OF THE STREET.
20:29:28 IF THAT WAS AN ISSUE WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, IT
20:29:31 IS STILL AN ISSUE.
20:29:34 AGAIN, GEOMETRY.
20:29:36 SO THAT IS MY REBUTTAL.
20:29:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:29:39 ANYTHING ELSE?
20:29:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:29:42 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
20:29:43 OKAY.
20:29:45 LET ME HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
20:29:49 >> MOVED.
20:29:52 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY
20:29:54 COMMENDATION GUDES.
20:29:58 WHAT IS THE --
20:30:02 >> FILE NO. REZ19-100.
20:30:04 I WOULD MOVE TO DENY DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE
20:30:08 APPLICANT TO MEET HIS BURDEN OF PROVE TO PROVIDE
20:30:12 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL THAT THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT
20:30:15 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
20:30:18 CODE AND FAILED TO SHOW CONSISTENCY WITH THE
20:30:21 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY 9.3.8.
20:30:26 THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT -- THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE
20:30:31 HOUSE NOTICE SURROUNDING AREA ARE -- ONE NUMBER THROWN
20:30:32 OUT 73%.
20:30:35 BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE NOTICE SURROUNDING AREA
20:30:37 ARE ABOVE THIS AM.
20:30:41 AND THE PROPOSED -- THE PROPOSED REZONING CHANGES THE
20:30:42 PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THE CHARACTER OF THE
20:30:45 SURROUNDING AREA AND THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO SHOW
20:30:49 HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD MITIGATE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
20:30:50 >> SECOND.
20:30:54 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
20:30:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS A FRIENDLY ADDITION TO THE
20:31:01 MOTION, JUST TO REFERENCE SOME OF THE COMPETENT
20:31:05 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT I HEARD, INCLUDED SIGNIFICANT
20:31:10 CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND PARKING, EMERGENCY VEHICLES
20:31:18 AND SIDEWALK SAFETY FOR THE KIDS USING THE SIDEWALK.
20:31:24 AND ALSO I THINK A CONCERN OUT OF THE PRECEDENT THAT
20:31:25 THIS WILL SET.
20:31:29 WHEN I LOOK AT THAT BLOCK FACE, I SEE THIS -- THIS
20:31:32 PARTICULAR BLOCK FACE, ESPECIALLY ON THAT SIDE ON THE
20:31:40 NORTH SIDE IS TEETER-TOTTERING AT JUST ABOUT THE 50/50
20:31:44 MARK AND THREE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE VULNERABLE
20:31:45 TO THIS.
20:31:50 SO SOMEBODY TESTIFIED THIS -- YOU KNOW, EACH ONE
20:31:53 INDIVIDUALLY MIGHT NOT MEAN ANYTHING, BUT INCREMENTALLY
20:31:56 THEY ADD UP AND THEY ADD UP AND THEY ADD UP OVER THE
20:31:59 YEARS AND YOU DO GET A CHANGE IN THE CHARACTER OF THE
20:31:59 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:32:02 SO ANYWAY, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THOSE ADDITIONAL
20:32:05 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.
20:32:08 >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU INCORPORATE THAT IN YOUR MOTION.
20:32:09 ANYBODY ELSE?
20:32:10 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
20:32:13 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.
20:32:16 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
20:32:17 ANY OPPOSED.
20:32:19 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
20:32:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ON WARD -- WE ARE MOVING TO 15.
20:32:33 MR. GARDNER IS HERE.
20:32:36 AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE AND MOVE ON TO
20:32:36 15.
20:32:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
20:32:43 FILE NO. REZ19-69 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED 76701
20:32:47 INTERBAY BOULEVARD FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED
20:32:49 DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
20:32:51 THIS WAS AN APPLICATION CONTINUED FROM YOUR OCTOBER 10
20:32:57 HEARING.
20:33:02 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, DAVID HEY WITH YOUR
20:33:03 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
20:33:04 THIS WILL LOOK FAMILIAR.
20:33:07 DOWN IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AND QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE
20:33:08 REPORT.
20:33:12 >> MR. HEY, IF I MAY INTERRUPT ONE SECOND.
20:33:14 AFTER ITEM NUMBER 15, WE WILL TAKE PROBABLY A
20:33:18 FIVE-MINUTE RECESS JUST TO BREAK SOME STAFF AND
20:33:18 EVERYONE CAN STRETCH.
20:33:21 GO AHEAD.
20:33:22 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU.
20:33:25 THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
20:33:26 DISTRICT.
20:33:31 MORE SPECIFICALLY THE GANDY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:33:33 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
20:33:37 AGAIN THIS IS INTERBAY.
20:33:39 LOIS, YOU HAVE APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH.
20:33:41 THIS WAS ACTUALLY JUST A PLANNED AMENDMENT RECENTLY
20:33:45 THAT YOU ALL SAW TO THAT RESIDENTIAL 35.
20:33:51 YOU HAVE GOT SOME OTHER APARTMENTS FURTHER TO THE
20:33:56 APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS FURTHER TO THE EAST, AN YOU
20:34:01 GOT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED WITH SOME TOWN HOMES WEST OF
20:34:07 MANHATTAN AND OF COURSE THE BASE TO THE SOUTH.
20:34:11 WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT WAS
20:34:15 RECENTLY CHANGED TO THE R-35.
20:34:19 THIS COLOR WAS TRANSITIONAL 24 AND INDUSTRIAL
20:34:22 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
20:34:27 AND THEN YOU HAVE GOT A MIX OF COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35,
20:34:33 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THE BASE TO THE SOUTH.
20:34:36 THE -- I KNOW WE HAVE GONE OVER THIS BEFORE, BUT I JUST
20:34:40 WANT TO TOUCH ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
20:34:44 THE PROPOSED PD IS LOCATED, AGAIN, WITHIN THAT
20:34:46 TRANSITIONAL USE 24.
20:34:50 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LOOKS AT THOSE DISTRICTS AS
20:34:56 MIXED USE DISTRICTS, AND THEY HAD -- AT THE TIME THE
20:34:59 DISTRICT WAS PLACED, THERE WAS NO IDENTIFIED PATTERN,
20:35:05 AND THAT'S WHY IT IS GIVEN THAT TRANSITIONAL USE 24.
20:35:11 APARTMENTS AND MULTIFAMILY, CONDOMINIUMS ARE ALL
20:35:14 PERMITTED UNDER THAT TRANSITIONAL USE 24.
20:35:17 THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
20:35:19 AREA.
20:35:23 DUE TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPLICANT WILL WORK
20:35:25 WITH THE CITY STAFF DURING PERMITTING TO MAKE SURE
20:35:28 THERE WILL NOT BE IMPACT ON HURRICANE EVACUATION TIMES
20:35:30 AND SHELTER SPACE AND OVERALL THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
20:35:33 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
20:35:38 ALONG INTERBAY AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT UNDER LYING
20:35:43 TRANSITIONAL USE 24 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND
20:35:46 BASED ON THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE
20:35:48 PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH
20:35:55 THE FUTURE OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:35:57 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND
20:35:59 PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DESIGN COORDINATION.
20:36:01 I WILL BRIEFLY RUN THROUGH THIS.
20:36:06 A REMINDER TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS AN OPEN
20:36:06 HEARING.
20:36:09 IT WAS CONTINUED FROM THE OCTOBER -- I AM SORRY THE
20:36:12 NOVEMBER 14 HEARING.
20:36:14 AT THE HEARING IT WENT THROUGH FULL PRESENTATIONS AND
20:36:17 PUBLIC COMMENT AND AS WELL AS REBUTTAL.
20:36:21 SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT IS IN THE PROCESS.
20:36:24 YOU CAN -- LEGAL STAFF IS HERE TO CLARIFY, BUT TO
20:36:29 REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, A REQUEST FOR 9.31 ACRES.
20:36:32 216 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS.
20:36:35 THEY HAVE WETLAND MITIGATION IN THE BACK WITH A
20:36:37 RETENTION POND.
20:36:40 A CLUBHOUSE AND AN ENTRY WAY.
20:36:42 BASED ON THE HEARING AND THE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AS
20:36:44 WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE APPLICANT
20:36:47 REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO WORK WITH THE SURROUNDING
20:36:50 PROPERTY OWNERS AND ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.
20:36:55 AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO -- TO UPDATE YOU.
20:36:58 BUT AS FAR AS THE SITE PLAN AND THE STAFF REPORT, EXACT
20:37:01 SAME FROM THE NOVEMBER HEARING.
20:37:06 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
20:37:11 NO QUESTIONS?
20:37:13 >> MR. GUDES --
20:37:19 >> NO, YOU SAID INCIDENT.
20:37:22 >> INCONSISTENT AND FOUR WAIVERS, PARKING WAIVER AT
20:37:22 14%.
20:37:27 THERE IS REMOVAL OF FIVE NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREES.
20:37:30 THEY ARE PRESENTING -- REMOVING MORE THAN 50% OF THE
20:37:36 TOTAL TREES ON-SITE AND REDUCING FROM THREE TO ZERO.
20:37:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
20:37:43 APPLICANT?
20:37:46 >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
20:37:49 ON ISSUE OF CONSISTENCY.
20:38:34 I PUT UP THE STAFF REPORT [AUDIO DROP]
20:38:40 -- TO CLARIFY OF ALL THE AGENCIES AND THE STAFF REPORT
20:38:40 REFLECTS THAT.
20:38:44 AGAIN, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOM DEVELOPMENT.
20:38:50 WE WERE LAST IN FRONT OF YOU AND STAFF DID THEIR
20:38:50 REPORT.
20:38:52 WE DID OUR CASE IN CHIEF.
20:38:55 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENTS WERE GIVEN, AND QUESTIONS FROM
20:38:58 CITY COUNCIL RESULTED AS WELL.
20:39:03 AND JUST AS A QUICK RECAP, THE SITE WAS FORMALLY THE
20:39:11 HURLEY MACK COMPANY ON INTERBAY EAST OF THE
20:39:16 INTERSECTION OF INTERBAY AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
20:39:17 STREET.
20:39:22 THIS HAS BEEN ABANDONED A GREAT SITE UNDER TEN ACRES
20:39:27 AND WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY EXISTS.
20:39:29 WE FEEL THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A WONDERFUL
20:39:30 ADDITION TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:39:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR REHABBING THAT --
20:39:35 >> THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE REHABBED.
20:39:38 THAT BELONGS IN MORE OF A WORLD WAR II DOCUMENTARY, I
20:39:42 BELIEVE.
20:39:44 WE ARE PROPOSING 216 UNITS.
20:39:47 THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED UNDER THE
20:39:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND FURTHER ZOM IS THE DEVELOPER
20:39:54 AND WE HAD A REZONING IN FRONT OF YOU ON ROCKY POINT.
20:39:57 THE FIRST TIME I REPRESENTED ZOM.
20:40:00 I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN
20:40:00 COMPLETE.
20:40:04 AND TO GET THIS CORRECT, ZOM HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR
20:40:07 THAT PROJECT FOR THE NATIONAL PROJECT OF THE YEAR BY
20:40:10 THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF HOMEBUILDERS AND A
20:40:12 NATIONWIDE CONTEST.
20:40:16 FINALLY, IF YOU WILL RECALL, AND THIS IS ON ME, BUT AT
20:40:20 THE LAST MEETING I STATED THAT WE HAD MET WITH THE PORT
20:40:23 OF TAMPA CITY ASSOCIATION NUMEROUS TIMES JUST TO
20:40:27 CLARIFY A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE BEFORE.
20:40:31 THEY DID NOT EITHER -- EITHER RECOMMEND SUPPORTING OR
20:40:34 DENYING OUR APPLICATION.
20:40:38 THAT BEING SAID, WHAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST MEETING WAS
20:40:41 THEY ARE NOT THE PROPER ASSOCIATION.
20:40:46 AND IT IS THE -- THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH ASSOCIATION.
20:40:51 SO MR. DINGFELDER HAD AN ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT
20:40:53 RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH THE GANDY
20:40:56 SUN BAY SOUTH ASSOCIATION, AND I AM PLEASED TO REPORT
20:40:58 THAT WE DID.
20:41:00 WE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS WITH THEM.
20:41:03 WE HAD MEETINGS WITH OTHERS, AND I AM MOST PROUD OF THE
20:41:06 FACT THAT THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH ASSOCIATION IS HERE
20:41:09 AND NOT TO PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTH, BUT THEIR BOARD
20:41:13 UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO SUPPORT OUR APPLICATION.
20:41:17 AND WITH THAT, WE -- OTHER ISSUES CAME UP BEFORE,
20:41:20 TRANSPORTATION, COASTAL HIGH HAZARD, TREES.
20:41:23 WE HAVE GOT OUR FULL TEAM HERE.
20:41:26 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT WE FELT
20:41:30 LIKE IT WAS A FULL PRESENTATION BEFORE AND WANTED TO BE
20:41:33 DILIGENT WITH YOUR TIME.
20:41:37 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
20:41:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MET WITH THE ASSOCIATION.
20:41:41 WHAT WAS THE NUMBER IN THE BUILDING?
20:41:43 THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME TO THE MEETING?
20:41:46 >> WE MET WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH
20:41:49 ASSOCIATION, THE SECRETARY OF THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH
20:41:55 ASSOCIATION, AND THEN -- THEY ARE HERE.
20:42:01 JEAN STRUMEYER LIVES ON THE EAST SIDE OF DALE MABRY IN
20:42:04 AN ASSOCIATION THAT IS DEFUNCT AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO
20:42:07 START OVER AGAIN AND STEPHANIE IS HERE.
20:42:10 SHE IS NOT IN THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH ASSOCIATION THAT
20:42:16 I AM AWARE OF.
20:42:19 I THOUGHT YOU WERE SOUTH OF INTERBAY.
20:42:21 SHE OWNS HOUSE BUS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INTERBAY.
20:42:24 I AM LEARNING A LOT ABOUT THE ASSOCIATIONS THERE IS NOT
20:42:26 IN THE GANDY SUN SOUTH ASSOCIATION.
20:42:28 THAT WAS THE FIRST MEETING.
20:42:35 THE SECOND MEETING -- STEPHANIE WAS.
20:42:38 THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION AND THE SECRETARY, AND
20:42:42 WE CONTINUED TO TALK TO THE PORT TAMPA CITY ASSOCIATION
20:42:47 AS WELL, AND I BELIEVE TOM VENTO IS HERE TO SPEAK
20:42:50 TONIGHT.
20:42:53 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE -- NOT UNTIL YOU GET PUBLIC
20:42:54 COMMENT.
20:42:59 AND MR. GARDNER, YOU HAD INDICATED THAT THERE ARE 216
20:43:01 UNITS?
20:43:01 >> CORRECT.
20:43:05 >> WHAT IS THE ALLOWABLE USE IN TERMS OF MAXIMUM, IF
20:43:06 YOU KNOW?
20:43:08 >> I CAN LOOK THAT UP.
20:43:19 I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE -- IS IT THE 230S?
20:43:22 >>DAVID HEY: DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
20:43:28 UNDER THE TRADITIONAL USE 24 LAND USE CATEGORY, THE
20:43:34 MAXIMUM IS 222 DWELLING UNITS OR A MAXIMUM OF 605,188
20:43:36 SQUARE FEET.
20:43:39 JUST REMEMBER UNDER THESE MIXED USE CATEGORIES, THEY
20:43:44 COULD EASILY CHOOSE TOTAL UNIT COUNT OR UTILIZE FLOOR
20:43:51 AREA RATIO TO EXCEED THAT 222 UNITS BASED ON WHATEVER
20:43:56 IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE APPLICANT.
20:43:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
20:44:00 >> ONE OTHER FINE POINT ON THAT.
20:44:03 THAT REDUCTION IN THE UNIT SIZE REALLY IS A FUNCTION OF
20:44:07 WHAT DAVID JUST SAID, BUT ALSO THE REDUCTION -- WE WERE
20:44:10 ASKING FOR FAR MORE UNITS BEFORE.
20:44:14 THAT CAME OUT OF OUR MEETING WITH THE PORT TAMPA CITY
20:44:17 ASSOCIATION WHERE THEY WANTED FEWER UNITS AND MADE A
20:44:20 REQUEST FOR US TO NOT HAVE LARGER UNITS.
20:44:24 SO WE REMOVED THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WE HAVE STUDIOS, ONE
20:44:27 BEDROOMS AND TWO BEDROOMS AND THAT WAS DONE AT THE ASK
20:44:31 OF THE PORT TAMPA CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
20:44:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:44:33 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
20:44:34 THANK YOU, SIR.
20:44:35 APPRECIATE IT.
20:44:39 ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 15 -- I DON'T
20:44:42 THINK ANYONE IS -- I AM JUST JOKING.
20:44:42 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:45:12 PLEASE COME FORWARD.
20:45:16 >> I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT THAT WE DID NOT -- WE DID
20:45:18 NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY --
20:45:21 >>LUIS VIERA: MA'AM, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME.
20:45:26 >> STEPHANIE POINTER, 7709 -- I FORGOT, I GOT TO LET
20:45:28 HIM.
20:45:31 >> THANK YOU, THERE ARE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE
20:45:32 NAMES.
20:45:40 RITA, MARIE SAMANKSI, WILL CALLAHAN, MICHELLE CALLAHAN,
20:45:45 LISA MARIE CESER AND KEITH POINTER.
20:45:46 OKAY.
20:45:49 THAT IS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE ADDITIONAL MINUTES
20:45:51 FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT.
20:45:56 >> WE DID NOT GET -- WE DID NOT GET TO SPEAK LAST TIME.
20:46:01 MR. GARDNER CHOSE TO ASK FOR POSTPONEMENT PRIOR TO ANY
20:46:05 OF US SPEAKING BECAUSE OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED WITH THE
20:46:07 PREVIOUS -- WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.
20:46:08 ANOTHER PROPERTY.
20:46:12 SO HE CHOSE BEFORE ANY OF US GOT TO COME UP HERE TO
20:46:13 POSTPONE.
20:46:19 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR.
20:46:21 >> MAY I INQUIRE.
20:46:25 ANYONE SPEAKING TONIGHT, DID ANYONE PREVIOUSLY HERE
20:46:30 SPEAK AT THAT HEARING?
20:46:32 >> NOT FOR THIS ITEM
20:46:34 >> THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO SPEAK?
20:46:35 >> YES, SIR.
20:46:36 >> GO AHEAD.
20:46:39 >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POINTER.
20:46:40 I AM A LICENSED REALTOR.
20:46:42 I AM A PROPERTY MANAGER.
20:46:43 SO I DABBLE IN REAL ESTATE.
20:46:47 I LIVE SOUTH OF GANDY 7709 LAND CARE LANE.
20:46:50 I ACTUALLY LIVE DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IN
20:46:56 QUESTION WHICH IS IN INTERBAY SOUTH.
20:46:59 BUT WE ARE NOT -- WE CURRENTLY DO NOT BELONG TO A CIVIC
20:47:01 ASSOCIATION.
20:47:03 WE ARE OUTLIERS.
20:47:07 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT FIRST OF ALL MOST OF THINGS I
20:47:09 HAVE TO SAY ARE QUESTIONS FOR YOU BECAUSE I AM JUST A
20:47:11 NORMAL CITIZEN THAT GETS UP IN THE MORNING AND I HAVE
20:47:12 TO WORK FOR A LIVING TOO.
20:47:16 WHEN I GO THROUGH THESE, I UNDERSTOOD FROM MY LAST
20:47:20 APPEARANCE THAT MOST OF MY OWE MOTIONAL APPEALS HAD NO
20:47:21 LEGAL BASIS.
20:47:25 WELL, I ASK YOU WHEN -- FIRST OF ALL, YOU WANT TO POINT
20:47:30 OUT ON THE TOP PAGE OF THE SECOND PAGE, YOU HAVE A
20:47:31 SPREADSHEET.
20:47:35 WE HAVE 28 ADDITION -- 2800 -- ALMOST 2800 ADDITIONAL
20:47:39 APARTMENTS SOUTH OF GANDY AND WEST OF DALE MABRY IN
20:47:42 PROCESS OF BEING BUILT ALREADY.
20:47:45 THERE ARE AN ADDITIONAL 900 UNITS.
20:47:52 SO THAT IS 3741 UNITS IN A 16-SQUARE-MILE RADIUS SOUTH
20:47:53 OF GANDY.
20:47:56 IN A DEAD END.
20:48:00 A DEAD END WHEN YOU GET ON THE ROAD FROM GANDY AND YOU
20:48:05 GO SOUTH OF GANDY, THE LAST FOUR DAYS WHEN I PICKED UP
20:48:08 KIDS FROM SCHOOL, WHEN I GO SOUTH OF GANDY THROUGH THE
20:48:11 LIGHT, I GO AS FAR AS TRIBLY.
20:48:16 I GO AS FAR AS WALLACE, AS FAR AS WISCONSIN AND I GO AS
20:48:21 FAR AS PAXTON ON DALE MABRY GOING SOUTH WHERE TRAFFIC
20:48:22 IS BUMPER-TO-BUMPER.
20:48:24 THAT IS BEFORE 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON WHERE THIS TRAFFIC
20:48:27 SURVEY TOOK PLACE, OKAY.
20:48:30 I HAVE ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT, I AM -- I AM NOT
20:48:32 ANTI-HOUSING.
20:48:36 I AM ANTI-SAYING I AM GOING TO HAVE SIX KIDS BEFORE THE
20:48:37 FIRST ONE IS BORN.
20:48:40 BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE NOT -- WE HAVE NOT FINISHED
20:48:43 BUILDING EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PERMITTED SO FAR, AND
20:48:44 WE WANT TO BUILD MORE?
20:48:46 IT MAKES NO SENSE.
20:48:50 AND IF YOU WANT TO ASK, OKAY, THE TRAFFIC ISSUE SHOULD
20:48:54 NOT BE AN ISSUE, BUT ACCORDING TO THE LU POLICY AND I
20:48:56 DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS STUFF, BUT THE LU POLICY
20:49:00 TO ENSURE THE ADEQUATE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK FOR
20:49:02 INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE LIVING IN RELATION
20:49:05 NEIGHBORHOODS ABUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL SHOULD USE SAFE
20:49:09 CONNECTIONS THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS IF NEEDED, IE
20:49:12 PORT TAMPA CITY TO PICNIC ISLAND AREA.
20:49:14 SPECIFICALLY OUR AREA.
20:49:17 WE ARE ENTITLED TO SAFE EGRESS FROM THAT PENINSULA.
20:49:22 IF WE HAVE AN OIL FIRE OR GAS FIRE OR CHEMICAL SPILL,
20:49:27 WE CAN NOT EGRESS SAFELY WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
20:49:30 HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT IF YOU KEEP ADDING ADDITIONAL
20:49:31 UNITS.
20:49:36 MY QUESTIONS IN RED HERE INCLUDE -- SO THAT RIGHT
20:49:39 THERE, THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T COUNT, BUT I THINK THAT IS
20:49:42 IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND SO DON'T WE HAVE TO GO
20:49:45 BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO FIND THAT?
20:49:48 NOW I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT I AM DOING.
20:49:50 I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS LESS THAN A MONTH.
20:49:53 I JUST KEEP MAKING NEW FRIENDS WHO KEEP HANGING OUT
20:49:54 WITH ME.
20:49:54 [ LAUGHTER ]
20:49:59 IN THIS STATEMENT -- AND I GAVE YOU GUYS A COPY OF
20:49:59 THIS.
20:50:04 AND SOME NICE LADY FROM DAVIS ISLAND WHOSE LAST NAME IS
20:50:04 "DAVIS."
20:50:08 SHE POINTED THIS OUT IN A MEETING WE HAD A COUPLE OF
20:50:08 WEEKS AGO.
20:50:11 SHE SAID YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS PARAGRAPH.
20:50:13 I AM LIKE, WOW, THAT IS A COOL PARAGRAPH.
20:50:15 IT SAYS "UNIQUE."
20:50:18 WHAT I SAW AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
20:50:22 I SAW BUNCH OF GENTLEMEN WHO WANTED TO SUPPORT US BUT
20:50:25 THEY HAD TO PULL A RABBIT OUT OF THEIR HAT TO LEGALLY
20:50:26 DO SO.
20:50:29 I WOULD ARGUE THIS IS AN UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE THE
20:50:34 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WRITTEN TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL
20:50:40 AREAS FROM ENCROACHMENT FROM IG AND FROM COMMERCIAL
20:50:41 AREAS.
20:50:44 THAT IS -- I MEAN EVERYTHING I READ -- I HAVEN'T READ
20:50:48 ALL 400 PAGES BECAUSE I HAVE A JOB AND A LIFE AND TWO
20:50:50 KIDS AND TWO DOGS.
20:50:53 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE AN UNIQUE SITUATION
20:50:59 BECAUSE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SOUTH OF GANDY IS OUR
20:51:01 INDUSTRIAL, OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE BEING
20:51:05 ENCROACHED ON BY DEVELOPERS WHO ARE OVERDEVELOPING AND
20:51:08 MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO LIVE.
20:51:11 WE HAVE NO GROCERY STORES.
20:51:11 NOBODY CARES.
20:51:13 IT IS NOT THE LAW.
20:51:18 BUT I ASK YOU, COUNCIL, WHAT -- IF YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW
20:51:22 ALL THESE LAWS TO GIVE THESE GUYS WHAT THEY WANT.
20:51:27 LIKE I ASK MISS MARY HERE -- AND I SLAUGHTER YOUR LAST
20:51:30 NAME SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SAYING IT.
20:51:32 SHE HAS TO GIVE THEM A LIST OF THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO
20:51:35 IN ORDER TO GET THIS BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND GET IT
20:51:35 PASSED.
20:51:39 I ASKED HER TO HELP ME FIND OUT WHAT I HAVE TO DO IN
20:51:41 ORDER TO STOP THIS CRAP.
20:51:42 IT IS RIDICULOUS.
20:51:46 WE CAN'T GET IT OUT OF WHERE WE LIVE NOW.
20:51:48 I AM NOT AGAINST TWO HOUSES.
20:51:51 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, ALL THESE NUMBERS I HAVE HERE DON'T
20:51:53 INCLUDE MY FRIENDS IN VIRGINIA PARK.
20:51:56 THEY DON'T INCLUDE ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING
20:51:57 SPLIT.
20:52:00 AND THE NEW HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT THERE.
20:52:01 THOSE ARE LIKE NICKEL AND DIME.
20:52:03 WE CAN'T SHOW UP FOR ALL THAT.
20:52:06 THESE ARE HUNDREDS OF EXTRA PEOPLE.
20:52:10 AND OH, BY THE WAY, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE
20:52:14 ORIGINAL SITE PLAN HAS EFFICIENCY, ONE BEDROOM AND TWO
20:52:15 BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
20:52:18 THEY NEVER HAD ANYTHING LARGER, OKAY.
20:52:21 SO MR. GARDNER STOOD UP HERE AND SAID WE DOWNSIZED
20:52:22 THEM.
20:52:26 NOT ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN I SAW AND THAT WAS THE
20:52:27 ONE PUT IN MAY.
20:52:32 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY -- I AM SURE I AM FORGETTING
20:52:34 SOMETHING.
20:52:39 POSTED IN -- I SEE ONE OBJECTION LETTER.
20:52:44 I KNOW I SENT EVERYBODY AT THIS COUNCIL A REJECTION
20:52:45 LETTER.
20:52:47 IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE ARE 44 HOMES.
20:52:50 I REPRESENT THAT HOA COUNCIL.
20:52:54 AND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I PLACED 13 TENANTS OR
20:52:58 HOMEOWNER BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I DO, I TAKE CARE OF MY
20:52:59 NEIGHBORS.
20:53:03 IN MY JOB I KNOW SIX OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS HAVE WRITTEN
20:53:06 TO AT LEAST SOMEBODY ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY TOLD
20:53:06 ME THEY DID.
20:53:10 I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR DOCUMENTATION IS.
20:53:13 SEEMS LIKE -- OF COURSE I HAVE THIS BIG LONG LIST OF
20:53:14 QUESTIONS.
20:53:18 I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY IS THIS NOT A MULTIUSE
20:53:18 PROPERTY.
20:53:23 IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES OUT --
20:53:25 THE IG BUSINESS OUT OF PLACE.
20:53:28 AND REPLACE IT WITH MORE RESIDENTIAL WHICH WE DON'T
20:53:31 HAVE ROOM FOR, WE DON'T HAVE RESTAURANTS.
20:53:35 WE DON'T HAVE A GROCERY STORE FOR GOD'S SAKE.
20:53:38 WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT BUT YET WE ARE TAKING THAT
20:53:39 LAND AWAY.
20:53:43 SOUTH TAMPA IS NOT ANY NIGHT -- IT IS FINITE, I AM
20:53:45 SORRY, MY BAD.
20:53:47 BUT -- I DON'T KNOW.
20:53:50 I AM TERRIBLE -- I AM TERRIBLE OF READING THESE THINGS
20:53:51 ANYWAY.
20:53:53 THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MINIMAL.
20:53:54 WE NEED EMPLOYERS.
20:53:56 WE NEED RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL.
20:54:00 AND WHY ARE THEY NOT REQUIRED TO INSTALL A MULTIUSE.
20:54:03 THAT IS ALL I KEEP SEEING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:54:04 I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
20:54:07 THAT IS WHY I WROTE ALL THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T
20:54:08 UNDERSTAND THIS.
20:54:10 THIS IS NOT MY LIFE.
20:54:12 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU PEOPLE CANNOT COMMUNICATE
20:54:13 WITH ONE ANOTHER.
20:54:18 WHY YOU PEOPLE CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH ME ABOUT ANY
20:54:20 PARTICULAR SITUATION.
20:54:22 IT'S REALLY KIND OF SCARY.
20:54:25 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL ALIENATED FROM ONE ANOTHER AND
20:54:29 CANNOT WORK TOGETHER TO DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND
20:54:31 MOVE FORWARD FOR OUR CITY.
20:54:34 AND ALL OF YOU CAME WITH THE BEST OF INTENTION, BUT
20:54:38 YOUR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE OF RULES ON A PIECE OF
20:54:39 PAPER.
20:54:41 IT IS REALLY SAD TO ME.
20:54:42 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
20:54:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
20:54:47 COMMENDATION GUDES AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
20:54:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MA'AM, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND
20:54:53 I QUESTION THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I SIT BACK AND HAVE
20:54:56 ISSUES AND I WANT TO TALK TO OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS ABOUT
20:54:59 SITUATIONS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE STATE LEGISLATURE
20:55:02 DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT BUT THEY CAN DO IT.
20:55:03 IT IS AN ODD THING.
20:55:07 THEY CAN TALK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND HAVE LUNCH
20:55:07 AND TALK.
20:55:08 AND WE CAN'T.
20:55:12 I GUESS MY THING WOULD BE TO STAFF AND PROBABLY TO THE
20:55:13 PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:55:16 IS THERE A PROTOCOL WHERE WE ARE SAYING WE HAVE ALL
20:55:20 THIS DEVELOPMENT BUILDING GOING ON THAT WE LOOK AT THE
20:55:20 TRAFFIC?
20:55:23 BECAUSE I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA BECAUSE I WAS
20:55:25 SCHOOL RESOURCE, ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
20:55:27 BEFORE ALL THIS BUILDING STARTED AND I KNOW HOW THE
20:55:31 TRAFFIC IS GOING DOWN THOSE MAIN ARTERIES RIGHT THERE,
20:55:32 GOING TOWARD GANDY.
20:55:35 SO I AM JUST WONDERING A STUDY.
20:55:38 A PLANNED STUDY TO BE DONE AS ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT IS
20:55:41 -- AS IT RELATES HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO IN THAT
20:55:44 AREA BECAUSE IT IS A SMALL AREA AND LOOKING AT IT.
20:55:45 IT IS ON THE WATER.
20:55:49 AND THERE IS A SITUATION, A FIRE, HOW THOSE PEOPLE GET
20:55:50 OUT.
20:55:51 HOW LONG IT TAKES THEM TO GET OUT.
20:55:54 SO I AM JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
20:55:58 >>DAVID HEY: DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
20:56:02 CAN I ASK, ARE YOU SPEAKING IN REFERENCE TO LAND USE
20:56:06 STUDIES OR TRANSPORTATION STUDIES?
20:56:07 >> BOTH.
20:56:10 HEY I CAN SPEAK TO THE LAND USE.
20:56:12 CITY TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE BETTER TO ADDRESS THE
20:56:13 TRANSPORTATION.
20:56:17 REGARDING THE LAND USE, AGAIN, THIS IS THE TRANSITIONAL
20:56:17 USE 24.
20:56:22 IT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED TRANSITIONAL USE 24 SINCE THE
20:56:24 INCEPTION OF THE PLAN.
20:56:28 THAT HAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT THIS AREA COULD BE USED
20:56:32 FOR A RESIDENTIAL PURPOSE, BUT IT COULD ALSO ALLOW THE
20:56:36 DECISION BASICALLY UP TO THE FREE MARKET OF WHAT UNDER
20:56:39 THAT CATEGORY, WHAT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE THING.
20:56:42 SO IF THE MARKET IS NEEDING MORE COMMERCIAL, YOU COULD
20:56:46 PUT A COMMERCIAL USE HERE OR AN INDUSTRIAL USE UNDER
20:56:50 THAT TU-24 IF THE MARKET IS SAYING THEY NEED MORE
20:56:53 RESIDENTIAL, IT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR RESIDENTIAL.
20:56:56 THIS IS -- THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE CATEGORY IN THAT IT
20:56:57 ALLOWS ALL THREE.
20:57:01 USUALLY YOUR LAND USE CATEGORIES EITHER STEER IT TOWARD
20:57:04 RESIDENTIAL OR STEER IT TO, YOU KNOW, AN INDUSTRIAL
20:57:07 TYPE USE OR -- OR MIXED USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
20:57:14 BUT WE HAVE ANALYZED THE LAND USES THAT WE HAVE
20:57:18 CURRENTLY THAT ARE ADOPTED, AND I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT,
20:57:22 REMEMBER, EVERYTHING SOUTH OF FLETCHER IS IN WHAT'S
20:57:27 CALLED A TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA
20:57:29 WHICH IS BASICALLY THE WHOLE CITY.
20:57:33 SO THERE IS SPECIFIC GUIDANCE IN THE REGION THAT REALLY
20:57:40 -- THE CITY IS TO BE THE FOCUS OF DEVELOPMENT LONG TERM
20:57:42 FOR OUR REGION AND TRY TO REDUCE SPRAWL.
20:57:48 THAT WAS ONE OF THE MECHANISMS PUT IN PLACE TO PROMOTE
20:57:48 GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY.
20:57:50 SO HOPEFULLY --
20:57:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND, BUT I GUESS WHAT I AM
20:58:01 LOOKING FOR I AM LOOKING THAT SMALL AREA SOUTH OF GANDY
20:58:05 TO WHERE INTERBAY IS AND WE HAVE THIS BIG DEVELOPMENT
20:58:06 OF BUILDING AND ALL THESE PEOPLE.
20:58:10 I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HAS THERE BEEN A PLAN
20:58:13 THAT WE HAVE THIS MALL AREA, ALL THESE PEOPLE AND
20:58:17 BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS
20:58:19 AREA.
20:58:21 BUILT BACK TO SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION.
20:58:25 MAYBE IT IS NOT -- MAYBE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS A
20:58:27 PLAN AND WHAT IS A PLAN MAYBE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY
20:58:31 PEOPLE CAN LIVE BACK THERE FOR THE SAFETY OF THAT
20:58:35 COMMUNITY IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS.
20:58:37 >>DAVID HEY: REMEMBER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN
20:58:41 ADOPTED BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT PLAN IS WHAT IS
20:58:44 SHOWN ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE ADOPTED
20:58:47 POLICIES.
20:58:50 THAT -- IT -- IT IS ALWAYS ANTICIPATED THAT THAT AREA
20:58:54 DOWN THERE WOULD TRANSITION TO MULTIFAMILY IF IT IS NOT
20:58:59 BEING UTILIZED FOR INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL.
20:59:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS I AM JUST LOOKING FOR THE
20:59:06 ANSWER OF THE NUMBER OF -- BECAUSE YOU SAID -- SAID
20:59:10 LAND, BUT THE NUMBER PEOPLE -- I CAN LOOK AND ENVISION
20:59:14 IN MY MIND IF SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENING DOWN
20:59:16 THERE THOSE PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT.
20:59:18 I AM WONDERING WITH TRANSPORTATION, HOW DOES THAT --
20:59:19 HOW DOES THAT WORK.
20:59:21 DO WE HAVE A PLAN?
20:59:22 IS THERE A NUMBER.
20:59:25 A CAP THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE NEED TO STOP BUILDING AT THIS
20:59:26 PARTICULAR POINT?
20:59:28 OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE THEY HAVE A
20:59:30 CONCERN ABOUT THE SAFETY ISSUE.
20:59:35 >> IF YOU WERE DEALING WITH HURRICANE EVACUATION, THAT
20:59:38 IS -- THAT -- THOSE STUDIES ARE DONE BY THE COUNTY.
20:59:42 THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING BY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
20:59:49 THEY ALSO ARE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT -- THAT THE CITY IS
20:59:54 NOT MEETING ITS EVACUATION TIMES CURRENTLY, BUT IT IS
20:59:59 MEETING ITS SHELTER SPACE CAPACITY.
21:00:03 AND THE MAXIMUM UNDER THE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
21:00:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE TRANSPORTATION.
21:00:09 MAYBE HE HAS A BETTER ANSWER.
21:00:18 WE HAVE A TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THAT ENCOMPASSES WHEN A
21:00:20 NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY WOULD DO A NEW TRAFFIC
21:00:22 STUDY, AND THEY WOULD DETERMINE THE METHODOLOGIES, AND
21:00:25 THEN THEY WOULD PAY IMPACTS BASED ON THAT TRANSPORTATION
21:00:30 STUDY --
21:00:36 (ALARM RINGING)
21:00:39 >> IT'S TIME TO EVACUATE, I GUESS.
21:00:41 >> THAT'S THAT GEO ALERT.
21:00:44 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:00:46 >> SO WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, IT'S STUDIED, AND IT
21:00:51 LOOKS AT TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, AND THEIR IMPACTS MITIGATED
21:00:55 BASED ON TRANSPORTATION.
21:00:59 THAT'S THE MANUAL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR TRAFFIC.
21:01:02 SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT IS LOOKED AT ON A
21:01:08 CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
21:01:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:01:15 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:01:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE GOT A QUESTION.
21:01:21 I HAVE GOT A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR YOU, JONATHAN.
21:01:24 BUT FIRST I WANT TO RESPOND TO -- IS IT MS. POINTER?
21:01:27 YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP.
21:01:29 I'LL SPEAK TO YOU FROM THERE.
21:01:33 BUT YOU ASKED WHY WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER AND WHY IT
21:01:36 WE CAN'T TALK OUTSIDE OF THIS, AND BASICALLY OUR ATTORNEY
21:01:40 OVER HERE AGAINST THE WALL, THIS PROCESS IS CALLED
21:01:44 QUASI-JUDICIAL, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS LIKE ALMOST LIKE A
21:01:48 COURTROOM, OKAY.
21:01:49 SO WE SIT UP HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T WEAR ROBES, BUT
21:01:53 WE SIT UP HERE IN SORT OF A JUDICIAL CAPACITY.
21:01:57 AND JUST LIKE IF YOU WENT TO COURT, WOULD YOU NEVER
21:01:59 EXPECT -- BE ABLE TO TALK TO A JUDGE IN PUBLIX AND
21:02:03 DISCUSS YOUR CASE, OKAY?
21:02:04 AND THAT'S WHY -- AND IT'S REALLY TO PROTECT THE SANCTITY
21:02:09 OF THE PROCESS.
21:02:10 SO IT'S OUT IN THE OPEN.
21:02:12 SO WE DON'T GET THE INFORMATION -- WELL, WE GET THE
21:02:16 INFORMATION ON PAPER, BUT WE DON'T GET THE TESTIMONY FROM
21:02:19 ANYWHERE EXCEPT RIGHT HERE TONIGHT, SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE
21:02:23 IT, AND WE ARE ALL OFF ON THE SAME LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
21:02:26 OTHERWISE, BACK IN THE DAY, THERE USED TO BE, NOW, THE
21:02:30 BACK ROOM DEALS AND ALL THE SMOKING ROOMS AND ALL THAT
21:02:32 SORT OF THING.
21:02:33 AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THE SYSTEM HAS
21:02:36 EVOLVED THAT WAY.
21:02:37 THE OTHER PART IS WE DON'T GO INTO THE BACK AND TALK
21:02:40 ABOUT IT EITHER, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SNEAKY AND CORRUPT
21:02:43 AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
21:02:45 AND ANY DELIBERATION WE HAVE IS DONE OUT HERE IN FRONT
21:02:49 YOU OF YOU.
21:02:50 SO MR. SHELBY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE.
21:02:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
21:02:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME FOLLOW UP ON ONE ON THE POINT
21:02:58 THAT WAS MADE, ACCELA IS LIMITED TO LAND DEVELOPMENT
21:03:02 COORDINATION.
21:03:03 WHAT IS HERE TODAY -- AND FIRST OF ALL, THE TAMPA CITY
21:03:08 COUNCIL IN WRITING GETS TO CITY COUNCIL OFFICES, AND THEN
21:03:11 ULTIMATELY WHAT THAT DOES IS IT'S DISPLAYED INTO THE
21:03:15 CLERK'S FILE TO BE PART OF THE RECORD.
21:03:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
21:03:18 AND IN OUR NOTEBOOKS, WE HAVE YOUR E-MAILS.
21:03:21 WE ALL GET COPIES OF YOUR E-MAILS SO WE CAN READ THEM.
21:03:26 BUT IT'S THE CLERK, THESE FOLKS WHO ARE SITTING RIGHT
21:03:31 HERE, WHO ARE THE REPOSITORY OF ALL THESE DOCUMENTS.
21:03:34 JONATHAN, YOU MENTIONED THE TCEA, THE TRANSPORTATION
21:03:38 CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA, RIGHT?
21:03:40 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
21:03:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND YOU SAID THAT ANY PARTICULAR
21:03:43 PROJECT IS TREATED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND YOU WORK
21:03:48 THROUGH THE PROJECT TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF THE
21:03:51 PROJECT?
21:03:52 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
21:03:54 AND TO ADD TO AN AREA, INTERSECTIONS, AND BASED ON THE
21:04:02 PROJECTS --
21:04:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO LET'S FOCUS ON THIS PROJECT FOR A
21:04:06 SECOND AND THEN I'M SURE WE WILL HEAR FROM THEIR
21:04:08 TRANSPORTATION FOLKS.
21:04:09 WHAT WAS THE ANALYSIS FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ON THE
21:04:14 ADJACENT -- MOSTLY TWO-LANE ROADS, INTERBAY, MANHATTAN,
21:04:19 WESTSHORE?
21:04:20 >> YES, WE BASICALLY, THE OTHER TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WE
21:04:27 LOOKED AT SO INTERSECTIONS IN THAT AREA, AND THEIR
21:04:29 IMPACTS ON MOVEMENTS, A MITIGATION FEE, I THINK IT WAS 2
21:04:35 OR $3,000, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY THEY WOULD PAY THE
21:04:40 MULTIMODAL FEES AS WELL SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF FEES
21:04:46 INVOLVED.
21:04:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HOW MUCH, THE MITIGATION FEE --
21:04:51 >> FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
21:04:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS?
21:04:54 >> I WANT TO SAY 6200, I THINK.
21:05:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET US KNOW WHEN YOU COME BACK UP.
21:05:24 THANK YOU.
21:05:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:05:26 COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR?
21:05:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
21:05:35 AND LAND USE POLICY 9.6.2, DEVELOPMENT PATTERN CONSISTENT
21:05:46 WITH THE COMPACT CITY STRATEGY WITH INCREASED VISIBILITY,
21:05:57 WALKING, TRANSIT, USE, EMPLOYMENT, CONCENTRATION,
21:06:02 RESIDENTIAL, SERVICES AND AMENITIES.
21:06:08 THIS DEVELOPMENT, MR. GARDNER IS TRYING TO CONVINCE US IS
21:06:11 NEEDED DOWN THERE.
21:06:12 I REALLY DON'T SEE MUCH OF THAT IN THERE.
21:06:16 NEITHER DO I SEE AMENITIES.
21:06:26 EMPLOYMENT CONCENTRATION.
21:06:27 THE CLOSEST THING I CAN SEE IS MacDILL AIR FORCE
21:06:29 BASE.
21:06:30 I WILL ASK MR. GARDNER LATER ON, IF THAT E-3 CAN AFFORD
21:06:35 THE HOUSING THERE H.
21:06:36 THANK YOU FOR STANDING THERE.
21:06:37 THANK YOU.
21:06:39 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:06:40 >>CHAIRMAN VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:06:41 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
21:06:45 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO QUICKLY RESPOND TO WHAT
21:06:47 COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID EARLIER.
21:06:48 I THINK THERE ARE SYSTEMIC TRANSPORTATION AND FLOODING
21:06:51 AND OTHER ISSUES SOUTH OF GANDY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
21:06:55 MAYBE A MOTION AT THE END.
21:06:56 MAYBE YOU AND I CAN MAKE A JOINT MOTION OR SOMETHING.
21:07:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
21:07:00 AND WE HAVE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
21:07:01 I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE NOT TO SAVE
21:07:06 COMMENTS ON THE QUESTIONS UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT SO
21:07:08 WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
21:07:09 GO AHEAD.
21:07:12 NO WORRIES.
21:07:13 THANK YOU.
21:07:13 >> MY NAME IS TOM VENTO, LIVE IN PORT TAMPA CITY.
21:07:18 I'M A PORT TAMPA CITY CIVIC ASSOCIATION VICE PRESIDENT,
21:07:23 WAS PRESIDENT FOR YEARS, WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF THESE
21:07:25 DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE HAVE NOT GIVEN OUR BLESSING TO THIS
21:07:33 PROJECT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE TALKED TO THE
21:07:39 DEVELOPER A COUPLE OF TIMES, HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM AS
21:07:45 FAR AS THEY KNOW OUR TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
21:07:48 WHETHER THEY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT IS A DIFFERENT
21:07:53 SUBJECT.
21:07:55 THEY HAVE OFFERED TO AND WENT WITH US TO THE CITY TO TALK
21:08:00 TO THEM ABOUT DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AT
21:08:04 INTERSECTIONS NEARBY, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN
21:08:10 HELPFUL, ALTHOUGH FOR ONE BIG THING IS TRANSPORTATION.
21:08:17 WE COUNTED ALL THE ENTITLED UNITS THAT WERE POSSIBLE TO
21:08:21 BE BUILT WEST OF DALE MABRY, SOUTH OF GANDY, TWO YEARS
21:08:27 AGO, NOT INCLUDING ANYTHING THAT WAS ALREADY PERMITTED OR
21:08:29 IN THE PROCESS.
21:08:32 OVER 4,000.
21:08:33 SO THERE'S 4,000 COMING.
21:08:36 I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE END UP.
21:08:40 AND WE ARE UNIQUE.
21:08:41 THE ONE THING THAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT US IS WE ARE ON A
21:08:44 PENINSULA, SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE, SOUTH OF GANDY, WHICH WE
21:08:49 ARE AT THE BOTTOM -- EVERYTHING IS ON TOP OF US.
21:08:53 IN PORT TAMPA WE HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH SUN BAY SOUTH.
21:08:57 THEIR TRAFFIC, WE JUST TRY TO GET THROUGH THEIR TRAFFIC,
21:09:00 AND AS YOU GO NORTH IT JUST BUILD AND BUILDS.
21:09:05 SO THAT'S ABOUT -- THAT'S ABOUT THE GIST OF IT.
21:09:09 SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
21:09:11 I BROUGHT PICTURES THAT SHOWED TRAFFIC BACK UP FROM
21:09:15 MacDILL, ALMOST TO TYSON GOING OUT LIKE TO HULA BAY
21:09:22 IN THE MORNINGS, HEADING SOUTH.
21:09:24 AND BY THE SAME TOKEN IN THE MORNINGS HEADING NORTH,
21:09:27 ALMOST ALWAYS IT GOES PAST TYSON TO THE SOUTH AND THAT'S
21:09:30 A COUPLE MILES.
21:09:31 A COUPLE MILES BUMPER TO BUMPER, STOPPED IN THE MORNINGS.
21:09:35 TAKES ME CLOSE TO HALF AN HOUR TO GET TO KENNEDY
21:09:38 BOULEVARD IN THE MORNING.
21:09:41 6:30 IN THE MORNING THE OTHER DAY.
21:09:42 THAT'S EXACTLY.
21:09:47 SO IT'S BECOMING DIFFICULT TO GO TO WORK AND TO MAKE IT
21:09:50 TO WORK ON TAME AND GET BACK AND HAVE ANY TIME WITH YOUR
21:09:54 FAMILY IN THE DAYLIGHT.
21:09:56 THANK YOU.
21:09:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:09:58 NEXT, PLEASE.
21:09:59 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:10:05 MY NAME IS JEFFREY NIETUPSKI, THE PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY
21:10:12 SUN BAY SOUTH ASSOCIATION, AND AS THE PRESIDENT I KIND OF
21:10:19 DEFINE MY OWN ROLE AND WHAT I WANT TO DO AND HOW TO LEAD.
21:10:23 I HAVE TWO ROLES, ONE TO EMPOWER MY NEIGHBORS.
21:10:26 FOR THE LONGEST TIME THEY DIDN'T THINK THEY HAD A SAY IN
21:10:30 HOW THINGS HAPPENED, DIDN'T THINK THEY HAD A SAY IN HOW
21:10:34 TO GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED BUT I THINK IN THIS LAST
21:10:36 MEETING WE PROVED OTHERWISE.
21:10:37 SO NOW I AM VERY PROUD.
21:10:41 THE SECOND GOAL I HAVE IS KEEPING IN LINE THE DEVELOPMENT
21:10:46 WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:10:48 NOW WHILE I UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENT IS INEVITABLE, MY
21:10:51 OPERATOR IS ENSURING THAT WE GET CONTRIBUTIONS FROM
21:10:57 DEVELOPERS TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SO MY GOAL IS TO BRING
21:11:02 THE DEVELOPERS TO EMPOWER MY NEIGHBORS, GET EVERYBODY
21:11:07 TOGETHER, HAVE A CONVERSATION WHICH COUNCILMAN JOHN
21:11:11 DINGFELDER HELPED PUSH ALONG.
21:11:14 SO WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND I PROPOSED SOMETHING
21:11:16 THAT I THOUGHT WAS A PRETTY COOL IDEA.
21:11:20 I CALL IT THE TREE INITIATIVE.
21:11:22 MY IN ADDITION IS DEVELOPERS ARE TEARING OUT THESE TREES
21:11:25 LEFT AND RIGHT, THE STATE IS ALLOWING IT, NOT A LOT YOU
21:11:28 CAN DO.
21:11:28 THERE'S STUFF THAT I CAN DO ABOUT IT.
21:11:30 SO WHAT I ASK THE DEVELOPMENT TO DO IS TO CONTRIBUTE 100
21:11:36 TREE KITS TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
21:11:41 WHAT'S A TREE KIT YOU ASK?
21:11:43 IT IS A TREE.
21:11:44 IT IS A WATER TIMER.
21:11:45 IT IS A HOSE.
21:11:46 IT IS EVERYTHING AN OWNER WOULD NEED TO COME TO MY CIVIC
21:11:50 CENTER, PLANT IT IN THEIR YARD, AND ACTUALLY HAVE
21:11:54 SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO LAST THEM FOR A LONG TIME.
21:11:57 SO I'M TAKING THAT IN MY OWN HAND AND TRYING TO FIND MY
21:12:00 WAYS TO REPLENISH THE TREES FOR THE CANOPY FOR FUTURE
21:12:03 GENERATIONS TO COME.
21:12:04 IT'S BOLD.
21:12:05 IT'S CRAZY.
21:12:06 AND IT MAY HAPPEN.
21:12:22 SO THEY AGREE.
21:12:23 THEY LIKE THE PROGRAM.
21:12:25 THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF PROPOSING OR DOING THIS PROGRAM WITH
21:12:29 US.
21:12:30 WHAT I DID HIGHLIGHT, THOUGH, THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION
21:12:34 AGREES THAT IT SHALL NOT OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
21:12:38 APARTMENT COMPLEX.
21:12:39 WE DON'T OPPOSE IT.
21:12:40 PERSONALLY A LOT OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN FEELINGS AS YOU
21:12:43 HEARD.
21:12:47 BUT WE LOOK FOR THE OVERALL EFFECT OF WHAT'S GOING TO
21:12:50 HAPPEN IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
21:12:51 MY GOAL IS TO DO SOMETHING, CREATE DEALS BETWEEN THE
21:12:54 DEVELOPERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH THIS TREE
21:12:56 PROJECT IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT COULD BECOME A MODEL
21:12:59 FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.
21:13:00 ANY DEVELOPERS THAT DO COME DOWN, I ASK THEM TO JUST KNOW
21:13:04 THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THEM AND CREATE --
21:13:07 [BELL SOUNDS]
21:13:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU HAVE ANOTHER 45 SECONDS.
21:13:11 >> HEY, I'LL TAKE MY 45 SECONDS.
21:13:14 I APPRECIATE IT.
21:13:15 WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE
21:13:20 CITY COUNCIL.
21:13:20 YOU GUYS ARE ALLOWING EMPOWERING OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
21:13:22 SO THE DEVELOPERS COMING AND MEETING WITH THE
21:13:26 NEIGHBORHOOD, I HEARD USED TO BE A TRADITION BACK IN THE
21:13:29 PAST.
21:13:29 SO MY GOAL IS TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GUYS
21:13:33 BESTOWED UPON US AND TRY TO CREATE A MODEL.
21:13:36 I DON'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORS, NOR THE SEA OF
21:13:41 RED BEHIND ME, BUT I DO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LEADERSHIP
21:13:44 AS PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
21:13:47 WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS CREATING A LOT
21:13:51 OF CHANGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT SHOULD THIS
21:13:55 DEVELOPMENT OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN, WE WANT TO KNOW
21:13:57 WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN -- NO, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU
21:14:00 ARE GOING TO DO FOR THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS.
21:14:02 SO MY TREE PROPOSAL IS SOMETHING THAT'S CREATIVE,
21:14:04 INNOVATIVE, I HOPE SERVES AS A MODEL FOR OTHER
21:14:08 ASSOCIATIONS.
21:14:08 I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.
21:14:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:14:11 GOOD LEADERSHIP AT WORK ON THE TREE ISSUE.
21:14:14 NEXT, PLEASE.
21:14:14 >> OKAY.
21:14:26 I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD FOR THE RECORD.
21:14:37 [OFF MICROPHONE] WE FELT WE WERE GOING TO BE SECOND, BUT
21:14:44 SINCE WE ARE LAST.
21:14:48 >>LUIS VIERA: IN LIGHT OF THAT, MR. SHELBY, CAN I RELY
21:14:51 UPON HER WORD THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE HERE, AND I BELIEVE
21:14:54 IT WAS OUR MISTAKE?
21:14:56 I'LL WAIVE IT.
21:14:58 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
21:14:59 >> AND I SCRAMBLED EVERYTHING UP AT 5:00.
21:15:04 AT 8:00, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT BETTER.
21:15:06 AND I APOLOGIZE.
21:15:13 >>LUIS VIERA: WHY DON'T YOU HEAD BACK TO THE LECTERN AND
21:15:16 I'LL CALL UP THE NAMES JUST TO SEE IF THEY ARE HERE.
21:15:20 BRENDA WYATT, ARE YOU STILL HERE?
21:15:22 OKAY.
21:15:24 LESLIE DUDLEY, ARE YOU STILL HERE?
21:15:28 TAMARA, STARTS WITH A Z.
21:15:30 YES, YOU ARE HERE.
21:15:31 AND JEAN EISENEGGER.
21:15:41 A TOTAL OF 7 MINUTES.
21:15:42 >>CHAIRMAN: AND THESE PEOPLE WERE HERE IN THE BEGINNING
21:15:44 BUT THEY HAD TO LEAVE?
21:15:45 >> YES.
21:15:46 THEY HAD TO LEAVE.
21:15:47 >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
21:15:48 >> OKAY.
21:15:49 MY NAME IS JEAN STIRMEYER, ON INTERBAY, RESTARTING THE
21:15:55 INTERBAY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
21:15:57 AND I AM HERE TO OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE COMPLEX FOR
21:16:03 THE REASONS THAT I WILL GIVE YOU.
21:16:06 ALSO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL DO HAVE
21:16:09 A COPY OF THE E-MAIL THAT WAS SENT ON OCTOBER 9th.
21:16:12 I SENT IT, I THINK, TO EVERY ONE OF YOU AND THEN SOME.
21:16:15 SO FOR THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IN YOUR FILES.
21:16:18 SO I OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE THIS PLAN IS INCONSISTENT, AND
21:16:26 IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CODE AND LAND
21:16:29 DEVELOPMENT, TAMPA CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
21:16:33 I FEEL THAT THE APPLICANT DID NOT DEMONSTRATE IT COULD BE
21:16:44 BUILT WITHIN THE PLAN WHICH IS 2.28, TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT
21:16:52 CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE, BUT OTHERWISE NOT
21:16:54 PERMITTED.
21:16:56 THEY FAILED TO COMMON STRAIGHT THAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
21:16:59 WAS FOR THE PURPOSE OTHER THAN WAIVING THE LAND
21:17:03 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
21:17:04 IN OTHER WORDS, I JUST ASK FOR HOUSING FOR RESIDENTIAL
21:17:08 INSTEAD OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
21:17:09 SO THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN
21:17:13 YOU ARE BUILDING RESIDENTIAL VERSUS A PD.
21:17:16 SO THE EXCEPTION, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE HERE,
21:17:21 BECAUSE THEY JUST FAILED TO FOLLOW THIS A LITTLE BIT.
21:17:31 I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, FIRST, SECOND TIME.
21:17:33 SO THEY FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS
21:17:37 CONSISTENT WITH THE TPP IN SOUTH TAMPA WHICH IS DEFINED
21:17:41 AS AN ALREADY AREA -- NOW I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS
21:17:46 RIGHT HERE.
21:17:51 THIS IS THE ESTABLISHED AREA, THE BASE LEVEL, AND IT SAYS
21:17:54 IN THE PLAN, NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN CURRENT DEVELOPMENT
21:17:58 PATTERN.
21:17:59 THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
21:18:01 THAT'S US.
21:18:01 AND IF YOU LOOK HERE, IT SHOWS ALL -- HERE WE GO -- ALL
21:18:06 OF THE PENINSULA.
21:18:07 THIS IS OUR AREA.
21:18:08 IT'S ALL THE LIGHT TAN.
21:18:10 OTHER THAN THE LITTLE COASTAL AREAS THAT THEY HAVE ON THE
21:18:12 WATER.
21:18:12 YOU HAVE THE HIGH DENSITY DOWNTOWN, AND ALL THESE OTHER
21:18:16 HIGH DENSITY ZONES.
21:18:17 WE ARE TO BE LEFT ALONE, BASICALLY.
21:18:20 THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING HERE.
21:18:38 THERE'S SOUTH TAMPA, ON PAGE 14 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
21:18:42 PLAN, AND IT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND THEY HAVE ALL THE
21:18:45 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, VIRGINIA PARK IS INCLUDED, THEY
21:18:49 FOUND IT TO BE -- THAT ANY DISTURBING OF THIS IS NOT PART
21:18:54 OF THE PLAN.
21:18:56 IT SAYS CHANGING THE -- IT GOES ON AND ON.
21:19:02 AND YOU CAN READ THAT ON PAGE 14 AND 15, THAT SOUTH TAMPA
21:19:05 IS UNIQUE, PLANS TO MAKE THIS CHANGE OF PLANNED
21:19:11 DEVELOPMENT.
21:19:12 IT DOESN'T FIT THE DEFINITION OF THAT.
21:19:14 THEY HAVE -- OH, IT SAYS WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FAILED TO
21:19:23 DEMONSTRATE THE REGULATIONS ESTABLISHED UNDER THE
21:19:25 APPLICABLE SINGLE USE ZONING LAWS WERE USED, AND IT'S IN
21:19:32 CONFLICT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT LAND USE AND THE
21:19:34 MATRICS WHICH IS IN HERE, AND KIND OF AT A GLANCE AND I
21:19:39 APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT.
21:19:40 WE MENTIONED THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD THAT IS ALSO NOT
21:19:45 COMPETENT OR SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS
21:19:50 CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
21:19:56 WE HAVE -- BASICALLY, ALSO, IT SAYS THERE'S NO UNIQUE
21:20:00 CIRCUMSTANCES TO CHANGE THIS TO A PD, AND THEY SHOULD
21:20:05 HAVE ASKED FOR RESIDENTIAL.
21:20:07 NOW, WE ALSO HAVE, WHICH IS VERY UNIQUE AT MacDILL
21:20:14 AIR FORCE BASE, WHICH WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, SEVERAL YEARS
21:20:16 AGO THERE WAS A MASSIVE STUDY DONE.
21:20:18 I DON'T KNOW, 2006, 2007, A MASSIVE STUDY DONE.
21:20:22 IT WAS THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE
21:20:24 JOINT LAND USE STUDY.
21:20:26 THEY CALLED IT THE JLUS STUDY.
21:20:30 IN THAT IT SITES -- AND I PUT IT IN HERE IN THE RECORD,
21:20:33 BUT HERE IS THE OUTLINE OF IT WHICH IS HERE.
21:20:36 AND I AM JUST GOING TO POINT OUT SOME REALLY IMPORTANT
21:20:39 THINGS HERE.
21:20:40 THE COMMUNITY DESCRIPTION.
21:20:42 NOW, BACK THEN, MacDILL COMPLIES WITH 6700 INDIVIDUAL
21:20:48 PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN THE STUDY AREA, AND I GUESS IT MAY
21:20:53 BE PART OF THE RECORD, THE JLUS STUDY SAYS ANY
21:20:59 URBANIZATION OF AREA AROUND MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE --
21:21:06 THAT IS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN INCOME IN JOBS, ET CETERA.
21:21:11 SO OR ANY URBAN ENCROACHMENT, IT DETERS THEIR MISSION TO
21:21:19 DO THEIR JOB.
21:21:20 IT'S TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.
21:21:22 SO WE ARE -- SOCOM, CENTCOM, MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE
21:21:33 HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE COOPERATIVE SPIRIT OF THE CITY OF
21:21:35 TAMPA, BUT ALL THIS OVERBUILDING, IT CAN CAUSE THEM TO
21:21:39 LEAVE.
21:21:40 SO 75 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN LIVING TOGETHER WITH THEM IN
21:21:46 HARMONY.
21:21:49 SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HERE SAYS THE GOALS WERE TO
21:21:53 PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS LIVING OR
21:21:56 WORKING NEAR MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
21:21:58 ALL THIS OVERBUILDING IS NOT GOING TO HELP, IT'S NOT
21:22:01 GOING TO PROTECT THEM.
21:22:02 TO PROMOTE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING FOR LONG-TERM LAND USE,
21:22:05 COMPATIBILITY.
21:22:06 THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE OVERBUILDING.
21:22:12 AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF
21:22:14 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE REGION WHICH IS SOUTH OF GANDY.
21:22:21 LET'S SEE.
21:22:23 EVERYTHING THAT I PUT IN THE LETTER WILL BE PART OF THE
21:22:25 RECORD AND WILL BE CONSIDERED, I THINK.
21:22:27 [BELL SOUNDS]
21:22:30 SO WE ARE AGAINST THE PLAN HERE.
21:22:34 THERE'S THE MATRIX THAT SHOWS THAT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT
21:22:38 WITH THE RULES THAT I PUT IN THERE.
21:22:52 I DON'T KNOW WHAT UM FORGETTING BUT THANKS A LOT.
21:22:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU OR YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT YOU HAVE
21:22:57 SPOKEN TO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT EVACUATION, HURRICANE
21:23:00 EVACUATION?
21:23:00 >> EVERYBODY HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
21:23:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT WITH THIS PROJECT?
21:23:07 >> WELL, TO EVACUATE, ESPECIALLY -- YES, YOU ARE SUPPOSED
21:23:11 TO EVACUATE AND THEY GIVE YOU WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS,
21:23:14 BUT PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT.
21:23:15 SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET OUT.
21:23:20 OH, BUT YOU TALK ABOUT COASTAL HIGH WATER.
21:23:26 IF WE ARE ON THE DIRTY PART OF THE STORM, IT HAS BEEN
21:23:28 SAID, AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH IF WE GET
21:23:32 THE STORM SURGE, IT'S GOING TEN FEET ALL THE WAY UP TO
21:23:35 CYPRESS BOULEVARD.
21:23:36 THAT'S A FACT THAT WAS ALREADY STATED IN THE RECORD SOME
21:23:39 YEARS BACK.
21:23:39 SO IF WE ARE ON THE DIRTY SIDE OF THAT, TSUNAMI, AND WHEN
21:23:44 THAT STORM SURGE COMES IN, ALL OF THESE NEW PEOPLE, I
21:23:47 MEAN, WE ARE AFFECTED.
21:23:49 I HAVE A BOAT.
21:23:50 BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
21:23:51 AND THE DENSITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITED.
21:23:54 IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FROM THE JLUS STUDY SIX HOMES.
21:23:59 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TEN HOMES PER ACRE.
21:24:02 IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITED TO SIX HOMES PER ACRE.
21:24:05 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WENT, THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEIR
21:24:08 MISSION WITH MacDILL AROUND THE BAY.
21:24:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:24:10 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
21:24:11 NEXT, PLEASE.
21:24:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THREE NAMES.
21:24:43 THOMAS CONNOLLY.
21:24:44 MIKE FANNING.
21:24:45 AND JUSTICE BURNS.
21:24:47 THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
21:24:50 >> MY NAME IS JOANNE BENNETT.
21:24:55 I GREW UP SOUTH OF GANDY, ROBINSON ALUM.
21:24:59 GO KNIGHTS.
21:25:00 SOUTH TAMPA IS GEOGRAPHICALLY UNIQUE.
21:25:03 AND THAT GEOGRAPHY MUST BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR DENSITY
21:25:07 PLANNING.
21:25:07 ON PAGE 226 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COASTAL MANAGEMENT
21:25:11 POLICY 1.2.3 REQUIRED AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF NEW DEVELOPMENT
21:25:17 IN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA IN COORDINATION WITH
21:25:20 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND TBRPC TO MONITOR IMPACT ON
21:25:24 EVACUATION TIME.
21:25:27 YOU WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT THIS REPORT HAS TO
21:25:29 SAY, BUT YOU CAN'T READ IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST.
21:25:33 IT'S NOTE BEING DONE.
21:25:35 AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THAT ALL OF SOUTH TAMPA IS IN
21:25:38 THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA.
21:25:40 THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROJECTED POPULATION FOR
21:25:44 SOUTH TAMPA, THE PROJECTED POPULATION FOR 2040 SOUTH
21:25:47 TAMPA IS 78,000 PEOPLE.
21:25:49 THE POPULATION AS OF APRIL 1st OF 2018, A YEAR AND A
21:25:54 HALF AGO, WAS 86,000.
21:25:58 THAT'S 8,564 PEOPLE OVER THE 30-YEAR PROJECTION IN JUST
21:26:05 EIGHT YEARS.
21:26:06 AND THIS IS OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
21:26:08 THOUSANDS OF ADDITIONAL UNITS HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE.
21:26:12 AND I WANT TO ADD AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE
21:26:16 MacDILL.
21:26:19 ON PAGE 3, 4 AND 14 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AREAS OF
21:26:25 OPPORTUNITIES AND PLANNING DISTRICT.
21:26:28 MAPS INDICATE WHERE CITIZENS AND PLANNERS BELIEVE
21:26:30 ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND HIGHER DENSITY SHOULD OCCUR, AND
21:26:33 ONE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED.
21:26:36 THAT'S WHAT SITE TAMPA IS.
21:26:37 TO REMAIN UNCHANGED AND STABLE.
21:26:39 THERE ARE SIX LEVELS OF INTENSITY THAT INDICATE WHERE
21:26:43 DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE FOCUSED.
21:26:45 SOUTH TAMPA IS LEVEL ONE.
21:26:46 THERE'S NOT A LOWER LEVEL.
21:26:48 THE CHARACTERISTICS OF SOUTH TAMPA SHOW THAT THERE ARE
21:26:53 LIMITED GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES, AND THE AN AREA OF
21:26:59 DEVELOPING.
21:27:02 HOUSTON HAD UNREGULATED GROWTH FOR MANY YEARS, AND
21:27:05 BASICALLY NOW THEY CANNOT BE EVACUATED, CANNOT BE DONE,
21:27:12 AND THEY KNOW IT.
21:27:13 WHEN THEY TRY, PEOPLE ENDED UP WEATHERING THE HURRICANES
21:27:16 IN THEIR CARS.
21:27:19 THEY KNEW THEY COULDN'T EVACUATE THE CITY BUT THEY DIDN'T
21:27:22 EVEN TRY.
21:27:24 WHAT HAPPENED?
21:27:24 PEOPLE DIED FROM FLOODING.
21:27:28 AND THE PAVING OF PERMEABLE SURFACES CAUSED THAT
21:27:33 FLOODING.
21:27:34 IF YOU KEEP PAVING PERMEABLE SURFACES IN SOUTH TAMPA, THE
21:27:38 COASTAL PLANNING AREA, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE.
21:27:41 THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
21:27:44 NO ONE CAN TELL YOU WHAT A SAFE AND SANE DENSITY IS FOR
21:27:48 THIS PENINSULA.
21:27:49 NO ONE CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN SAFELY BE
21:27:52 EVACUATED AND HOW LONG THAT EVACUATION WOULD TAKE.
21:27:57 THERE'S ONE OFFICIAL EVACUATION ROUTE OUT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
21:28:03 I TOOK THIS PICTURE.
21:28:04 THERE IT IS.
21:28:05 DALE MABRY.
21:28:06 AND I TOOK THIS PICTURE, WHICH IS JUST TWO FEET AWAY.
21:28:12 NOW, THIS --
21:28:13 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:28:15 THIS SIGN WAS THERE FOR WEEKS, JUST FOR PART OF THE YEAR.
21:28:22 NOT HURRICANE SEASON, NOTHING GOING ON.
21:28:24 AND YOU CAN SEE THE DEBRIS HERE THAT SHOWS HOW HIGH THE
21:28:31 FLOODING WENT.
21:28:31 JUST LEFT IT THERE.
21:28:32 AND THESE TWO SIGNS RIGHT HERE ARE NEIGHBORS.
21:28:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THE RECORD IT SAYS WHAT?
21:28:40 >> ROAD UNDERWATER.
21:28:42 ANOTHER ISSUE IS SOUTH TAMPA HAS NO ROOM TO BUILD MORE
21:28:46 SCHOOLS.
21:28:46 I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT SCHOOLS.
21:28:48 YOU CANNOT CONTROL THE SCHOOL BOARD.
21:28:50 BUT THERE'S ONE THING ABOUT SCHOOLS THAT'S UNDER YOUR
21:28:52 CONTROL.
21:28:53 POPULATION DENSITY.
21:28:54 THERE'S BEEN A POPULATION EXPLOSION IN SOUTH TAMPA
21:28:57 PENINSULA BUT THERE'S NO ROOM TO BUILD MORE SCHOOLS.
21:29:01 ALSO, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE ORLANDO SENTINEL IN
21:29:04 SEPTEMBER ABOUT THE OVERGROWTH AND SAID IN PART, QUOTING,
21:29:11 IF ROADS PAY FOR ITSELF THEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LIKE
21:29:13 SUMTER COUNTY MUST BE SWIMMING IN CASH.
21:29:15 INSTEAD IT'S ACTING LIKE A GOVERNMENT PLANNING AND THE
21:29:19 COST OF GROWTH.
21:29:20 SOME SO DECEMBER FOR MONEY THAT FIVE REPUBLICAN MAYORS
21:29:26 ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR AN INCREASE IN THE CURRENT
21:29:29 PROPERTY TAX RATE.
21:29:30 THE COUNTY CONCEDES IN ITS OWN BUDGET DOCUMENTS THAT THE
21:29:34 MAIN CORPORATE FOR THIS TAX INCREASE IS THE BREAK NECK
21:29:37 RATE OF GROWTH TIED TO THE VILLAGE'S SUCCESS.
21:29:40 THE VILLAGE IS A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF THE BIG FLORIDA LIE
21:29:44 THAT GROWTH IS SELF-SUSTAINING AND YET ELECTED OFFICIALS
21:29:48 CONTINUE TO BE DAZZLED BY DEVELOPER PROMISES TO BRING
21:29:52 MORE TAXES AND JOBS.
21:29:56 MANY ARE LOW-PAYING SERVICE JOBS WHICH HAVE RESULTED IN
21:30:00 AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHORTAGE IN SUMTER.
21:30:05 AND ALL OF THOSE NEW TAX DOLLARS?
21:30:07 NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO PAY THE BILLS.
21:30:09 WE ARE NOT HERE TO SAY CITIES AND COUNTIES SHOULD STOP
21:30:12 GROWING.
21:30:12 WE ARE HERE TO SAY THAT BUREAUCRATS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS
21:30:15 NEED TO HAVE EYES WIDE OPEN WHEN DEVELOPERS PITCH
21:30:17 PROJECTS.
21:30:19 THE PROJECTS WILL CREATE JOBS, THEY WILL GENERATE TAXES,
21:30:22 AND IT WILL COME WITH A BILL THAT ONE DAY HAS TO BE PAID.
21:30:26 JUST ASK THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN SUMTER COUNTY.
21:30:29 THIS ARTICLE CITES THE UNREALISTICALLY LOW IMPACT FEE
21:30:34 THAT RESULTS IN A WIND WINDFALL FOR THE PEOPLE MOVING
21:30:36 THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE TRUE AMOUNT OF
21:30:38 THE INCREASED POPULATION COSTS TO THE COUNTY SO IN ORDER
21:30:41 TO LOWER THE COST THEY ARE RAISING THE TAXES ON EVERYBODY
21:30:44 BY 26%.
21:30:46 THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF SUBSIDIZING THE MOVE OF NEW
21:30:49 RESIDENTS.
21:30:52 A MORATORIUM ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
21:30:55 THE GROWTH HAS OUTPACED THE ROADS, SCHOOLS AND OTHER
21:30:58 STRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO HANDLE MORE PEOPLE AND
21:31:01 CARS.
21:31:02 IT HAS OUTPACED THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
21:31:04 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM.
21:31:05 [BELL SOUNDS]
21:31:07 BUT IF THEY NEED EXCEPTIONS AND VARIANCES AND WAIVERS,
21:31:11 JUST SAY NO.
21:31:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
21:31:13 WE APPRECIATE IT.
21:31:14 NEXT ONE PLEASE.
21:31:15 [ APPLAUSE ]
21:31:18 >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASE.
21:31:19 PLEASE DON'T CLAP.
21:31:20 THANK YOU.
21:31:21 >> MY NAME IS STEVE MEADOWS, THE TREASURER OF PORT TAMPA
21:31:29 CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
21:31:30 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
21:31:31 >>LUIS VIERA: IF ANYBODY ELSE HERE THIS EVENING HAS NOT
21:31:37 BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
21:31:40 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
21:31:43 I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ASKED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC
21:31:49 ASSOCIATION TO READ A LETTER THAT MAY BE SLIGHTLY
21:31:53 REDUNDANT BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OR DENIAL
21:31:57 OR REFUSAL OF THE QUESTION ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY,
21:32:03 AND WHETHER WE SUPPORT IT OR NOT.
21:32:04 TO THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS
21:32:08 ASSOCIATION OF PORT TAMPA, THIS HAS BEEN TALLIED THROUGH
21:32:13 THE PRESIDENT.
21:32:13 I WANT TO CLEAR UP SOME CONFUSION BROUGHT FROM THE
21:32:15 STATEMENTS MADE TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AN NOVEMBER
21:32:20 14th, OUR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT MET WITH THE
21:32:23 MEMBERS OF THE TEAM A FEW TIMES BUT DID NOT GRANT
21:32:26 APPROVAL OR AGREEMENT OF THE PROJECT.
21:32:29 WHILE WE APPRECIATED THEM HEARING OUR CONCERNS REGARDING
21:32:32 TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND FLOODING ISSUES, WE SIMPLY DO NOT
21:32:36 SUPPORT THE LARGE DEVELOPMENT OF APARTMENTS BEING BUILT
21:32:39 ON INTERBAY.
21:32:41 HAD WE GRANTED SUPPORT WE WOULD HAVE SUPPLIED A LETTER OF
21:32:43 SUPPORT TO BE PRESENTED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
21:32:48 TRUETT GARDNER REQUESTED A LETTER OF APPROVAL FROM OUR
21:32:51 ASSOCIATION BUT WE DID NOT AND WOULD NOT SUPPLY THE
21:32:53 LETTER.
21:32:54 IN SUMMARY, THE PORT TAMPA CIVIC ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT
21:32:57 AND BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND NEVER
21:33:02 GAVE APPROVAL.
21:33:03 THANK YOU.
21:33:04 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY ASK, SIR, I MEAN, THIS IS
21:33:07 ALMOST SPLITTING HAIRS HERE.
21:33:09 THE ASSOCIATION DOESN'T SUPPORT IT.
21:33:11 BUT IS IT AFFIRMATIVELY OPPOSING IT OR IS IT AGNOSTIC?
21:33:17 >> ULTIMATELY, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID
21:33:22 TONIGHT IS THAT ALL OF THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING
21:33:24 SOUTH OF GANDY IS STRANGLING THE COMMUNITY.
21:33:30 IT'S STRANGLING THE COMMUNITY.
21:33:32 IT IS UNIQUE.
21:33:34 I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 65 YEARS.
21:33:39 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THOUGH, IN OTHER WORDS, IS THE
21:33:40 CIVIC ASSOCIATION OF PORT TAMPA CITY ANY SPECIFIC
21:33:46 STATEMENT FORMALLY OPPOSING?
21:33:49 >> WE ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
21:33:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:33:52 ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
21:33:55 OKAY.
21:33:57 MR. SHELBY.
21:33:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, COUNCIL.
21:34:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:34:02 FOR THE RECORD -- [OFF MICROPHONE] I WANT TO ADVISE
21:34:25 COUNCIL THAT A PRIVATE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THESE PARTIES
21:34:27 SHOULD HAVE NO PLACE IN YOUR DETERMINATION AS TO THE
21:34:32 VALUE OF THAT AGREEMENT AND THE PURPOSE FOR THAT
21:34:36 AGREEMENT.
21:34:37 IN OTHER WORDS, THAT IS NOT WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW TO
21:34:41 ADDRESS.
21:34:43 I CAN SAY THAT THE APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF A
21:34:48 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT ITSELF COMPETENT,
21:34:53 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
21:34:55 IT IS A FACT AND A BASIS ON WHICH THEY MAKE THEIR
21:34:58 DECISION AS FACT AND EVIDENCE, COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
21:35:02 EVIDENCE, SUBJECT TO THE WEIGHT OF THE EVIDENCE.
21:35:04 NOW, I CAN SAY THAT AN AGREEMENT SUCH AS THIS COULD GO TO
21:35:07 THE WEIGHT, BUT BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE EXISTING
21:35:14 AGREEMENT OF THE WEIGHT OR BENEFIT OF THAT PROJECT SHOULD
21:35:17 NOT BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL.
21:35:18 THANK YOU.
21:35:19 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR.
21:35:20 SHELBY.
21:35:21 I WAS INQUIRING ON THE POSITION JUST OUT OF PURE
21:35:25 CURIOSITY BUT IT HAS NO RELEVANCE TO MY DECISION.
21:35:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S GOOD TO KNOW ULTIMATELY WHY THEY
21:35:36 TAKE THE POSITION THAT THEY DID.
21:35:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:35:42 MR. GARDNER, IF YOU WISH TO HAVE REBUTTAL.
21:35:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:35:47 YES, GO AHEAD.
21:35:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SORRY, MR. GARDNER.
21:35:51 JUST A QUESTION OF STAFF.
21:35:53 IN LOOKING AT THE -- ANY STAFF WHO WANTS TO JUMP IN ON
21:35:57 THIS, EITHER PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF OR PERHAPS MR.
21:36:00 SCOTT, IN LOOKING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT, IT
21:36:06 APPEARS -- AND I NEED CONFIRMATION OF THIS -- PORTIONS OF
21:36:12 THIS ARE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, BOTH BELOW THE
21:36:16 ELEVATION OF THE CATEGORY 1 STORM SURGE LINE,
21:36:20 BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
21:36:26 SO IF SOMEBODY COULD CONFIRM THAT TO ME.
21:36:28 THEN, NUMBER TWO, ON THE PRIOR PAGE 3 OF THE PLANNING
21:36:33 COMMISSION STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS REFERENCE CM OBJECTIVE
21:36:39 1.2, MAINTAIN AND REDUCE HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIME WITHIN
21:36:43 THE CITY, MAINTAINING AND REDUCING EVACUATION TIME FOR
21:36:48 THE COUNTY AND REGION.
21:36:49 I GUESS SPECIFICALLY I WOULD ASK MR. SCOTT IF ANYBODY ON
21:36:54 THE CITY STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROJECT'S IMPACT, THE
21:37:02 PROJECT'S IMPACT ON HURRICANE EVACUATION.
21:37:08 I WOULD ASK THE PETITIONER TO SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.
21:37:12 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
21:37:14 YOU ARE CORRECT.
21:37:15 THE MAJORITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL
21:37:18 HIGH HAZARD AREA.
21:37:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES THE PLANNING COMMISSION GO
21:37:24 FURTHER THAN THAT IN TERMS OF ITS EVALUATION, OR YOU JUST
21:37:26 POINT OUT THE POLICY?
21:37:28 WHAT I READ?
21:37:30 >>DAVID HEY: YES, THAT'S REALLY THE OBJECTIVE.
21:37:33 THE POLICIES UNDERNEATH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE IMPLEMENTED
21:37:39 MECHANISM OF THE OBJECTIVE.
21:37:41 SO THAT OBJECTIVE IS INCLUDED, BECAUSE OF THE END POLICY
21:37:48 1.2.2, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE ZONING AND THE COASTAL
21:37:52 PLANNING AREA.
21:37:53 THAT INCREASE IT IS NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS SHALL
21:37:56 MITIGATE THE IMPACT ON SHELTER SPACE DEMAND BASED ON
21:38:01 SHELTER SPACE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
21:38:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY CONCERN IS NOT SHELTER SPACE.
21:38:08 BECAUSE THOSE SHELTERS, I DON'T NOT WHERE THEY ARE, BUT
21:38:12 UNDOUBTEDLY THEY ARE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE NORTH.
21:38:17 EVERYBODY HAS TO GET TO THOSE SHELTERS.
21:38:19 MY CONCERN IS WHAT CM OBJECTIVE 1.2 SPEAKS TO, WHICH IS
21:38:24 MAINTAINING AND REDUCING EVACUATION TIMES, BUT I WOULD
21:38:30 PRESUME WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TIMES TO GET OUT OF THEIR
21:38:33 HOMES, TO GET OUT OF THE AREA, TO GET TO THE SHELTERS.
21:38:38 HAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKED AT THAT AS HEALTH
21:38:40 RELATED TO THIS?
21:38:42 >>DAVID HEY: AGAIN THAT'S DONE BY INCORPORATED
21:38:44 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FOR THE ENTIRE REGION, FOR OUR
21:38:47 COUNTY.
21:38:47 I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY DOES LOOK AT IT ALSO AGAIN FOR
21:38:56 TRANSPORTATION.
21:38:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
21:38:58 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION.
21:39:02 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOLKS DO LOOK AT THESE THINGS.
21:39:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY BUT NOT AS
21:39:14 RELATED TO THIS PROJECT?
21:39:16 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THAT'S CORRECT.
21:39:16 THERE IS A PROJECT ON INTERBAY THAT IS THE CAPACITY OF --
21:39:26 >> WHERE IS THAT ON INTERBAY?
21:39:29 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: IT'S ON INTERBAY BETWEEN MANHATTAN
21:39:33 AND --
21:39:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY PAY
21:39:38 INTO THAT?
21:39:39 >> NOT SPECIFICALLY.
21:39:40 IT PAYS FOR THE WHOLE AREA.
21:39:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
21:39:43 BUT IN REGARD TO COASTAL HIGH HAZARD, NOBODY ON CITY
21:39:46 STAFF HAS SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT THIS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
21:39:53 IMPACT THE 700 UNITS MIGHT HAVE ON EVACUATIONS?
21:39:58 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NOT SPECIFICALLY.
21:40:05 >>TRUETT GARDNER: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
21:40:07 I AM GOING TO TRY -- WE WERE TAKING COPIOUS NOTES IN THE
21:40:11 BACK.
21:40:11 AND I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH POINT BY POINT, AND THEN
21:40:15 SAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR OUR EXPERTS TO GO FURTHER INTO
21:40:20 IT.
21:40:22 TRY TO GO IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER.
21:40:25 MY DEAR FRIEND STEPHANI POINTER, SHE STARTED WITH
21:40:30 OVERBUILT.
21:40:31 YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT TO THAT BUT I THINK IT'S
21:40:33 IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY.
21:40:34 THIS PROPERTY IS BU 24, IT'S IG.
21:40:37 AS A MATTER OF RIGHT, YOU CAN GO DOWN AND PULL PERMITS
21:40:41 FOR 650 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL GENERAL USES.
21:40:52 AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS, YOU WILL FIND FROM OUR EXPERTS,
21:40:55 THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.
21:40:58 TRAFFIC WAS THE SECOND POINT.
21:40:59 WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AT LENGTH.
21:41:01 AND THEN SHE ALSO MENTIONED HERE AND AT OUR MEETING HER
21:41:09 CONCERN FOR GROCERY STORES. THIS SITE WAS A BROKER THAT
21:41:13 WAS INVOLVED.
21:41:17 THE BROKER AT THE TIME WAS LOOKING FOR A SITE FOR A
21:41:20 PUBLIX LOCATION, AND THEY DECIDED THERE WASN'T ENOUGH
21:41:23 DENSITY IN THE AREA.
21:41:24 THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION WERE KEPT OPEN.
21:41:26 MRS. POINTER MENTIONED THAT THE GROCERY STORE ISSUE AT
21:41:30 HER MEETING, WE LOOKED INTO IT FURTHER, IT TURNS OUT THE
21:41:35 FLORIDA SITE ON DALE MABRY JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS IS
21:41:38 CURRENTLY IN PERMITTING SPECIFICALLY FOR A GROCERY STORE,
21:41:43 AND IT SOUND LIKE PUBLIX HAS BEEN NAMED, AND ONE OF THE
21:41:47 DECISIONS ON MAKING THEIR FINAL DECISION WILL BE ARE
21:41:50 THERE ENOUGH ROOF TOPS TO SUPPORT THAT RETAIL, NOT THAT
21:41:54 THIS IS GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK IT BUT THIS IS EXACTLY THE
21:41:57 TYPE OF STUFF THAT THEY LOOK TO.
21:41:59 I AM GOING TO JUMP TO MR. CITRO, AND JOHN, I WILL COME
21:42:05 BACK TO YOU.
21:42:06 YOU MENTIONED OR HAD THE QUESTION OF MIXED USE, AND IN A
21:42:11 RETAIL AMENITIES. THIS CAME OUT OF THE HEARING BEFORE.
21:42:14 IT'S NOT THE PROJECT THAT YOU LOOK AT.
21:42:17 IT'S THE AREA AS A WHOLE.
21:42:19 SO TO ADD TO THAT POINT, WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS THIS
21:42:22 THE RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW RETAIL USES TO
21:42:28 FLOURISH.
21:42:28 AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING YOU WANT.
21:42:30 SO NOT A SITE BY SITE BASIS.
21:42:33 IT'S AN OVERALL BASIS.
21:42:34 I THINK WE HAVE PROVEN THAT POINT.
21:42:37 MR. DINGFELDER, TRANSPORTATION FEES, OUR EXPERTS ARE
21:42:42 GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT H.TRANSPORTATION AND HIGH HAZY,
21:42:51 FRANKLY THAT WAS USED AS THE BASIS FOR THE DENIAL OF THE
21:42:53 PROJECT ON TYSON.
21:42:54 I WILL REMIND YOU THAT WAS ON THE WATER.
21:42:56 THIS IS MID PENINSULA.
21:42:57 SECONDLY, THE AGENCY I WOULD REFER TO AS IT RELATES TO
21:43:02 HURRICANE TYPE ISSUES IS FEMA. WE HAVE A VERY SMALL
21:43:05 PORTION OUR PROPERTY THAT TOUCHES THE FEMA, AND THEY CALL
21:43:11 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AS WELL.
21:43:14 BUT AGAIN WE'LL GET FURTHER INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE
21:43:16 PLANNING ASPECT OF THAT AS WELL.
21:43:18 MR. CITRO, BACK TO YOU.
21:43:20 YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION ON E-2 AND
21:43:25 E-3 PAY GRADE, AND WHERE WE ARE, AND HOW WE FIT WITHIN
21:43:31 IT.
21:43:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE MEDIAN
21:43:39 COST FOR THESE UNITS?
21:43:41 BEFORE YOU ANSWER WHAT THE AVERAGE PAY GRADE IS.
21:43:49 >>TRUETT GARDNER: YES.
21:43:49 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
21:43:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND.
21:43:57 >>REBECCA KERT: I WANT TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT THIS
21:43:58 SORT OF INFORMATION CAN ONLY BE INFORMATIONAL.
21:44:01 ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT HAD YOU GET MUST RELATE TO A
21:44:04 PARTICULAR CODE SECTION OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SECTION.
21:44:07 AND IF MR. GARDNER WANTS TO SPEND HIS TIME ANSWERING THAT
21:44:14 QUESTION I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE
21:44:16 BASIS FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL.
21:44:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
21:44:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, BUT I AM GOING BACK TO LAND
21:44:23 USE POLICY 9.6.2.
21:44:25 SO TO YOUR QUESTION.
21:44:30 >> WE HAVE GOTTEN THE UNIT ON THE WEST SIDE, COMBINATION
21:44:37 ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, AND IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO
21:44:40 THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THEM STARTING AT 1300 AND TOPPING OUT
21:44:47 AT 1800 A MONTH.
21:44:52 AND THE E-2 PAY GRADE, THIS IS THE BASIC HOUSING
21:44:55 ALLOWANCE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
21:44:57 WITH DEPENDENTS, 1800 DOLLARS.
21:45:01 THAT'S OUR MAX RATE.
21:45:02 WITHOUT DEPENDENTS, 1425.
21:45:09 EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE ONE-BEDROOM UNITS, THE ONE
21:45:14 BEDROOM WITHIN THAT.
21:45:40 THE TIP STANDARD OF 30% OR WHAT THEY USE.
21:45:42 BUT THOSE ARE THEIR STANDARDS.
21:45:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. GARDNER.
21:45:46 >> LET'S SEE, MRS. STROMEYER, SHE MENTIONED THE JLUS
21:46:02 STUDY.
21:46:02 AND THAT IS TRUE.
21:46:03 AND WHEN THAT WAS DONE AT MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE WAS
21:46:06 DESIGNATED BASICALLY THE TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS
21:46:09 THE MAP ZONES.
21:46:11 THEY DESIGNATED AN AREA WHERE THEY BASICALLY DOWN ZONED.
21:46:14 WE WERE OUTSIDE OF ALL OF THOSE.
21:46:16 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL STOP YOU THERE IF I MAY.
21:46:18 HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU THINK YOU NEED WITH YOUR
21:46:20 EXPERT, ET CETERA?
21:46:24 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I BELIEVE FIVE MORE MINUTES.
21:46:26 >>LUIS VIERA: NO PROBLEM.
21:46:26 GO AHEAD.
21:46:28 >>TRUETT GARDNER: MRS. STROMEYER, I BELIEVE, WAS TRAFFIC
21:46:34 RELATED AS WELL.
21:46:36 MRS. BENNETT, HIGH HAZARD AREA.
21:46:38 WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO THAT.
21:46:39 SCHOOL BOARD AGAIN THAT CAME UP AT A HIGHER PRIOR.
21:46:42 ON THAT WE WILL BE PAYING OUR SCHOOL IMPACT FEES.
21:46:45 THAT IS AN ISSUE FOR PERMITTING.
21:46:46 AND IF THERE'S INADEQUATE CAPACITY AT THAT TIME, WE WILL
21:46:50 HAVE A PERMITTING ISSUE BUT THAT IS NOT FOR THIS COUNCIL
21:46:52 TO DECIDE.
21:46:53 AND SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO TURN THINGS OVER TO
21:46:56 CHRISTOPHER HATTON OR TRAFFIC AND THEN TYLER HUDSON ON A
21:47:04 COUPLE OF THE ISSUES AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE.
21:47:05 >> CHRISTOPHER HATTON, A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL
21:47:10 ENGINEER, KIMLEY-HORN, AND BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA, AND
21:47:15 I LIVE IN THE LANDINGS SO VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
21:47:17 TRY TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES FAIRLY QUICKLY.
21:47:20 BUT AS JONATHAN TALKED ABOUT, WE DID DO A COMPREHENSIVE
21:47:23 STUDY FOR THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY, AND I THINK ONE OF THE
21:47:26 BIG THINGS THAT I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE MAIN
21:47:28 GENERATOR ON TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS THE AIR FORCE BASE.
21:47:32 UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAIN REASON FOR A LOT OF THE
21:47:34 CONGESTION IS ACTUALLY THE AT EACH IT GATES, BEING ABLE
21:47:38 TO ACTUALLY GET FOLKS THROUGH DO I KNOW HEADING SOUTH
21:47:41 FROM RESIDENTS GOING DOWN INTO THE BASE.
21:47:44 AGAIN, ONE OF THE ASPECTS HERE, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS,
21:47:47 AND YOU WOULD BE COMING HERE, AS THEY DEVELOP, IF THEY
21:47:50 ARE HEADING NORTH, THAT'S OPPOSITE OF TRAFFIC FOR THE
21:47:52 FOLKS COMING TO THE GATE OR GOING TO THE BASE, AND IF
21:47:56 POSSIBLE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE BASE, THE VEHICLE MAILS
21:47:58 TRAVELED, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT CRITICAL ASPECT, IS A
21:48:01 VERY SHORT, IN THIS CASE, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
21:48:06 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF OUR PROPORTIONATE
21:48:08 SHARE PLUS OUR MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE, OVER 150,000 THAT
21:48:12 WE WILL BE PAYING.
21:48:14 THAT AMOUNT CAN GO INTO THE DISTRICT WHICH IS THE
21:48:16 INTERBAY DISTRICT, AND THAT COULD GO INTO THE VARIOUS
21:48:18 IMPROVEMENTS.
21:48:19 AND ONE OF THE SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS I THINK THAT IS
21:48:22 IMPORTANT THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT, THERE ARE TWO BASIC
21:48:25 LEVELS.
21:48:26 THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE BEING DONE RIGHT NOW AS WE TALK.
21:48:28 IT THIS IS BASICALLY ONE THAT IS BEING "-HAS ALREADY BEEN
21:48:33 DESIGNED AND IS ACTUALLY ALREADY UNDERWAY IN TERMS OF THE
21:48:37 ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION IN TERMS OF WHAT WILL BE DESIGNED AND
21:48:42 IMPROVED. THIS IS ACTUALLY INTERBAY JUST EAST OF
21:48:44 MANHATTAN WHICH WILL BE A SECOND RIGHT TURN LANE WHICH
21:48:47 WILL HELP FUNNEL FOLKS INTO THE TINKER WAY DRIVEWAY,
21:48:50 WHICH IS AGAIN ONE OF THOSE MAIN THINGS THAT ARE
21:48:54 LITERALLY GOING THROUGH.
21:48:55 IN ADDITION, THE INTERSECTION HERE AT MANHATTAN AND
21:48:58 INTERBAY IS GOING TO BE EVALUATED FOR RETIME TO HELP
21:49:02 FUNNEL THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE INTERSECTION MORE
21:49:05 EFFICIENTLY.
21:49:09 ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS AS MR. GARDNER SAID TALK ABOUT THE
21:49:15 WHAT IS ACTUALLY BE DONE, TALKS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AND A
21:49:17 LOT OF RESIDENTIAL BY RIGHT THE ACTUAL SITE AND THE OVER
21:49:21 600,000 SQUARE FOOT THAT IS ALLOWED ON-SITE FROM THE
21:49:25 WAREHOUSING, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND THE MANUFACTURING
21:49:28 CAN HAVE WELL UP TO 6 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AS WHAT
21:49:33 WE ARE PROPOSING HERE WHICH YOU SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT BY
21:49:35 THE 216 APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
21:49:39 I THINK ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT CERTAINLY WE HAVE
21:49:41 HEARD ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY THERE IS TRAFFIC.
21:49:43 WE ARE NOT DENYING THAT H.BUT ULTIMATELY HOW DO WE DEAL
21:49:46 WITH THE TRAFFIC?
21:49:47 NOW THE 2040, THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, DEALS
21:49:50 WITH IMPROVEMENTS IN AND AROUND THE AREA.
21:49:53 THE MAIN ONE, AND I THINK THIS HITS ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT
21:49:56 AREAS, AND I WILL WRAP UP WITH THIS, IS THE INTERBAY
21:49:59 IMPROVEMENT AS WAS MENTIONED BY MR. SCOTT. THIS IS
21:50:01 ACTUALLY AN IMPROVEMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY
21:50:05 THE SURTAX.
21:50:07 IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT 2020 FISCAL YEAR WITH A
21:50:11 SURTAX THAT ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO WIDEN INTERBAY TO A
21:50:15 COMPLETE THREE-LANE SECTION FROM MANHATTAN ALL THE WAY TO
21:50:18 BAYSHORE.
21:50:19 AND THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO CRITICAL, NOT ONLY THAT IT
21:50:22 FRONTS OUR ACTUAL DRIVEWAY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE SOMETHING
21:50:26 THAT MR. DINGFELDER TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT'S EVACUATION
21:50:29 TIME AND CLEARANCE TIME.
21:50:31 SO IN THIS AREA, THESE ARE THE EVACUATION ROUTES.
21:50:33 THE MAIN ONE OBVIOUSLY THAT EVERYONE IS FOCUSED ON IN
21:50:36 THIS AREA IS CERTAINLY DALE MABRY FROM OUR DEVELOPMENTS,
21:50:39 TO GET TO DALE MABRY, THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT STRAIGHT IS
21:50:42 THROUGH INTERBAY.
21:50:43 INTERBAY IS BEING AGAIN INCREASED IN CAPACITY, WIDENED TO
21:50:48 THREE FULL LENGTH SECTION, SO THIS DIRECTLY HELPS TO
21:50:51 REDUCE THE ACTUAL EVACUATION TIME FOR THIS AREA
21:50:55 SPECIFICALLY.
21:50:56 I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
21:50:58 >>LUIS VIERA: AND MR. DINGFELDER.
21:51:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. HATTON, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING
21:51:08 THE MAP YOU HAVE UP RIGHT NOW SHOWS YOUR PROJECT AND IT
21:51:11 SHOWS THE CURRENT EVACUATION ROUTE, WHICH IS MANHATTAN.
21:51:17 >> THERE ARE SEVERAL.
21:51:19 BUT THE MAIN EVACUATION ONE IS DALE MABRY.
21:51:21 THESE ARE ALL EVACUATIONS TO THE SHELTERS.
21:51:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE
21:51:26 MAP YOU JUST PROVIDED.
21:51:27 IT LOOKS LIKE THE WAY IT'S SHOWING TO GET TO DALE MABRY
21:51:33 IS GOING UP MANHATTAN AND THEN JOGGING OVER TO THE RIGHT
21:51:38 ON, WHAT, GANDY?
21:51:39 >> THESE ARE ACTUALLY JUST ROUTES TO THE SHELTERS.
21:51:42 THE EVACUATION ROUTE IS DALE MABRY.
21:51:44 SO THESE ARE JUST ROUTES TO THE ACTUAL SHELTERS.
21:51:46 THIS IS NOT A PURE EVACUATION TO LEAVE THE PENINSULA.
21:51:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:51:56 SO WHAT IS THE CASE OF SHELTER?
21:52:00 >> THE SCHOOL BASICALLY I THINK WOULD BE SMITH MIDDLE
21:52:02 SCHOOL RIGHT HERE JUST TO THE NORTH.
21:52:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH SMITH.
21:52:09 >> IT COULD BE THE OLD --
21:52:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY?
21:52:17 >> I BELIEVE IT'S THE ONE THAT MIGHT BE -- I'M NOT SURE.
21:52:30 JUST EAST ON WESTSHORE, JUST EAST OF WESTSHORE.
21:52:37 THE BOWERY DEVELOPMENT.
21:52:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:52:45 IS YOUR PROJECT DOING ANYTHING TO MITIGATE EVACUATION AS
21:52:49 STATED BY THE OBJECTIVE 1.2 THAT I READ?
21:52:54 >> YES.
21:52:55 AND AGAIN THAT GOES TO THIS AREA, THE INTERBAY DISTRICT
21:52:57 WHERE THE MULTIMODAL FUNDS HAVE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE,
21:53:02 OVER $150,000 IS BEING PAID INTO, AND ONE OF THE SPECIFIC
21:53:05 IMPROVEMENTS, THE ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY SCHEDULED FOR
21:53:08 2020, IS TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF INTERBAY TO A 3-LANE
21:53:12 SECTION, WHICH AGAIN FRONTS OUR FRONT DOORSTEP ONTO
21:53:16 INTERBAY, DIRECTLY EAST OF DALE MABRY, WHICH IS THE MAIN
21:53:19 EVACUATION ROUTE.
21:53:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
21:53:22 I THOUGHT THE MULTIMODAL FUND WENT INTO MULTIMODAL BUSES.
21:53:26 >> THAT JUST MEANS IT COULD BE INCLUDED, SUCH
21:53:28 IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS PEDESTRIAN, BIKE, COULD BE INCLUDED.
21:53:32 IT DOESN'T EXCLUDE AUTOMOBILES.
21:53:34 JUST BACK IN THE DAY IT ONLY COULD BE USED FOR
21:53:37 AUTOMOBILES AND IT BECAME A MULTIMODAL FUND, COULD BE
21:53:39 INCLUSIVE OF MULTIMODAL.
21:53:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
21:53:43 THANK YOU.
21:53:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, SMITH MIDDLE SCHOOL, I
21:53:47 HAVE ON THE IS IN CITRUS PARK.
21:53:51 >> THAT'S THE CLOSEST ONE PROBABLY.
21:53:58 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, SIR.
21:54:00 YOU ARE BACK ON THE CLOCK OF THE.
21:54:02 >> IN THE 48 SECOND LEFT, I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE WITH
21:54:09 FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, WE HAVE MET OUR BURDEN.
21:54:12 WE HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT.
21:54:13 THE ONLY INCONSISTENCY IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS ON THE
21:54:17 SLIGHT PARKING VARIANCE FOR THE VISITORS PARKING WHICH
21:54:20 WAS NOT DISCUSSED.
21:54:22 FURTHER, WE HAVE INTRODUCED COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
21:54:25 EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY FROM THE ARBORIST AT THE FORMER
21:54:27 HEARING, FROM OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, THE FORMER HEARING,
21:54:30 AND THIS HEARING, AND WE BELIEVE WE HAVE MET THAT BURDEN.
21:54:34 PRACTICALLY WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:54:36 WE DID EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER SAID AND
21:54:40 GOING TO THE GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH ASSOCIATION, AND WE HAD
21:54:44 UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF THE BOARD WHICH WE ARE PROUD OF.
21:54:46 THIS IS GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE
21:54:49 HIGHEST QUALITY, AND WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF
21:54:53 YOU AND WE ASK INFORM YOUR APPROVAL.
21:54:55 [BELL SOUNDS]
21:54:56 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:54:57 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY COUNCIL BEFORE WE CLOSE?
21:55:00 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
21:55:04 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:55:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:55:06 ANY OPPOSED?
21:55:07 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
21:55:20 I'LL GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON IT.
21:55:22 THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES WHERE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT
21:55:27 AND LEGAL ISSUES MAKE BAD POLICY DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
21:55:32 MADE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN TERMS OF INVESTING IN
21:55:35 INFRASTRUCTURE.
21:55:35 WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE TRANSPORTATION PLANS AND
21:55:38 IDEAS THAT ARE PUT FORWARD, ARE THOSE GOING TO HAPPEN?
21:55:45 ONE OF THEM I THINK WAS JUST DESIGN, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW,
21:55:49 HOW MUCH RELEVANCY THAT HAS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BINDING ON
21:55:51 US IN OUR DECISION LEGALLY IS ONE THING.
21:55:54 BUT I STATE THIS JUST AS A BASIC STATEMENT, WHICH IS THAT
21:56:02 WHAT SUFFERS SOUTH OF GANDY, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES SUFFER
21:56:06 FROM.
21:56:07 CERTAINLY DISTRICT 7.
21:56:09 I ALWAYS SAY THAT THERE'S PARTS OF TAMPA WHERE SIZE 38
21:56:14 WAIST WEARING SIZE 36 PANTS AND HE HAVE DAY WE ARE EATING
21:56:18 AT MCDONALD, AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES SUFFER FROM THAT
21:56:21 OBVIOUSLY.
21:56:21 BUT THAT'S MORE OF A POLICY DECISION THAT I THINK THIS
21:56:24 COUNCIL IS EXTREMELY SYMPATHETIC ON.
21:56:28 AND IF ANYTHING, THE COMMENTS HERE TONIGHT, I THINK, SHOW
21:56:31 US, AND A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, JUST HOW COMPELLING AND HOW
21:56:35 MUCH OF AN ACUTE NEED THERE IS IN THE SOUTH OF GANDY
21:56:39 COMMUNITY, IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING, BEING A PERSON WHO
21:56:43 LIVES IN HUNTER'S GREEN, BUT REPRESENTS ALL THE CITY IN
21:56:46 TERMS OF CONSTITUENCY AND A DISTRICT PERSON, HAS BEEN
21:56:51 EXTREMELY -- DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD EDUCATIONAL BUT I
21:56:54 WILL USE IT, EDUCATIONAL.
21:56:56 SO JUST A PERSONAL STATEMENT.
21:57:00 COUNCIL MEMBERS?
21:57:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME SAY THIS.
21:57:03 I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ON.
21:57:06 TIMES CHANGE.
21:57:07 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER STATES WITHIN THOSE CITIES AND
21:57:14 YOU SEE THOSE FAILURES, YOU SEE THE FAILURES, BEING A
21:57:20 PUBLIC SAFETY PERSON, I ALWAYS TAKE THOSE THINGS TO HEART
21:57:22 WHEN I SEE THE FAILURES.
21:57:26 I HAVE WORKED IN A LOT OF STORMS, HURRICANES, AND I
21:57:33 WORKED DOWN THERE SOUTH GANDY, SO I UNDERSTAND WHEN I
21:57:36 LOOK AT WHEN I WAS DOWN THERE IN THE 80s WORKING VERSUS
21:57:42 WHERE IT IS NOW, IT'S AN IMPROVED AREA, BUT YOU HAVE A
21:57:47 LOT OF PEOPLE IN A SMALL AREA.
21:57:48 AND I THINK CITY STAFF, EVENTUALLY GET WITH THE COUNTY AS
21:57:53 WELL, AND LOOK AT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POLICIES, LOOK
21:57:56 AT THE DENSITY IN THAT AREA DOWN THERE, THE BASE, BECAUSE
21:58:03 MOST MILITARY BASES DON'T LIKE TO BE AROUND A LOT OF
21:58:06 PEOPLE.
21:58:08 AND WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN SOUTH
21:58:13 OF GANDY, I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ONE DAY WE MIGHT LOSE
21:58:18 MacDILL BECAUSE YOU HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE AND MILITARY
21:58:22 BASES DON'T LIKE TO BE AROUND PEOPLE, BECAUSE THERE IS SO
21:58:25 MUCH SECURITY NEEDED FOR THAT BASE.
21:58:28 AND I KNOW WHEN I WORKED SOUTH OF GANDY ONE TIME,
21:58:31 MacDILL, PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO GET OVER THE FENCE.
21:58:36 SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME A TIME, AND I THINK THAT
21:58:39 TIME IS NOW.
21:58:39 AND I AM JUST GIVING A FOREWARNING TO STAFF WE ARE GOING
21:58:42 TO HAVE START LOOKING INTO SOME POLICIES AND GETTING WITH
21:58:45 THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WHEN I
21:58:50 LOOK AT ONLY A COUPLE OF MAIN ROADS TO GET OUT OF THERE.
21:58:54 WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
21:58:56 AND I LIKE DEVELOPMENT.
21:58:57 WE NEED IT.
21:58:58 BUT WHERE IT STARTS TO HURT THE PEOPLE, THERE'S AN ISSUE.
21:59:04 I'M STILL AFFECTING HOW I WILL VOTE ON THIS ISSUE.
21:59:08 AGAIN I AM GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT THE POLICIES ARE AND
21:59:12 WHAT THE LAW ALLOWS ME TO DO.
21:59:14 BUT I HAVE CONCERNS FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON SOUTH
21:59:18 OF GANDY.
21:59:20 IT IS VERY TROUBLING AT THIS TIME.
21:59:23 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I'LL SAY, AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
21:59:25 AGAIN PUBLIC SAFETY IS A BIG CARD TO PLAY.
21:59:28 I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A CYNICAL WAY.
21:59:30 IT'S A BIG ASSERTION TO PUT IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
21:59:34 IF IT'S A COMPELLING ISSUE, THAT'S CERTAINLY SEWING THAT
21:59:37 IS BINDING IN ALL OF THIS.
21:59:39 I DON'T KNOW IF ANY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE HAS
21:59:42 BEEN PROVIDED THAT WE CAN RELY UPON FOR A DECISION HERE
21:59:46 TONIGHT, AND I SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW.
21:59:48 I DON'T BELIEVE SO, THAT WOULD LEAD TO APPROVE DENIAL
21:59:52 BASED UPON THAT.
21:59:53 I STATE IT AS A QUESTION.
21:59:56 JUST AS A QUESTION FOR DISCUSSION.
21:59:58 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:00:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. CHAIRMAN,
22:00:03 I BEG TO DISAGREE.
22:00:04 I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THE PROPOSED REZONING, AND
22:00:09 I'LL STATE MY REASONS AND DETAIL THEM IN A SECOND.
22:00:13 FIRST I WANT TO COMPLEMENT MR. GARDNER AND HIS TEAM.
22:00:17 MR. GARDNER ALWAYS DOES A GOOD JOB, AN EXCELLENT JOB FOR
22:00:20 HIS CLIENT, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DID TAKE
22:00:23 AN EXTRA MONTE AND REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO
22:00:26 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND TRAY AND WORK SOMETHING
22:00:29 OUT.
22:00:30 IT'S ALWAYS APPRECIATED.
22:00:33 WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES.
22:00:35 BUT I JUST WANT TO GET THAT SHOUT OUT BECAUSE I THINK
22:00:38 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO TRY AND WORK TOGETHER.
22:00:42 WITH THAT I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY REZ 19-69, I THINK
22:00:48 IT IS, 69, AS INCONSISTENT WITH TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
22:00:54 DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF
22:00:57 PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
22:01:00 DEVELOPMENT AS CONDITION AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS
22:01:03 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE.
22:01:07 AND SPECIFICALLY, ONE OF MY MAIN FOCUSES AS HAS BEEN
22:01:13 STATED AND HOW THEY ALLOT FOR THE LAST HALF HOUR HAS BEEN
22:01:18 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ZONE.
22:01:21 WE DIDN'T -- AT LEAST THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T NECESSARILY
22:01:28 CREATE THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
22:01:31 THAT'S DONE BY SCIENTISTS. THEY MAP OUT THESE AREAS
22:01:33 BASED ON ELEVATION AND SLOSH MAPS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
22:01:37 BUT IT'S UNCONTROVERTED THAT A GOOD PORTION OF THIS
22:01:41 PROJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
22:01:44 AND AS SUCH, IT'S SUBJECT TO THE PROVISION THAT I SPOKE
22:01:51 TO A MINUTE AGO -- I LOST MY PLACE.
22:01:57 SOMEBODY HAND ME THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S -- HOLD ON.
22:02:04 I APOLOGIZE.
22:02:07 SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT'S REFERENCED IN THE
22:02:09 PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT, SPECIFICALLY CM OBJECTIVE
22:02:14 1.2, WHICH SAYS THAT IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN AND
22:02:18 REDUCE HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIMES WITHIN THE CITY AS A
22:02:21 COMPONENT OF MAINTAINING AND REDUCING VEHICLES TIMES FOR
22:02:24 THE COUNTY AND REGION.
22:02:27 THOSE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TONIGHT FROM
22:02:32 VARIOUS FOLKS WHO SPOKE NOT ONLY THE FOLKS WHO LIVE DOWN
22:02:35 IN THAT AREA BUT ALSO FROM THE EXPERTS, THAT WE HAVE A
22:02:40 PROBLEM DOWN THERE.
22:02:42 AND WE KNOW WHY WE HAVE A PROBLEM, BECAUSE THE ROADS
22:02:46 DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT TODAY INCLUDE TWO-LANE
22:02:52 INTERBAY, TWO-LANE MANHATTAN, AND TO THE WEST, TWO-LANE
22:02:56 WESTSHORE, AND IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET DOWN TO
22:03:00 MacDILL AVENUE, YOU HAVE GOT TWO LANES DOWN THERE,
22:03:02 TOO.
22:03:03 AND THE ONLY ROAD THAT'S FOUR LANES IS DALE MABRY.
22:03:09 AND LORD NOSE IF A HURRICANE IS COMING AND EVERYBODY
22:03:11 HEADS TOWARDS DALE MABRY, THAT'S GOING TO BE WORSE THAN
22:03:14 ANY OF THEM.
22:03:19 AND THEN I ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT MITIGATING THAT.
22:03:22 AND I HAVE KNOWN THIS EXPERT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND
22:03:28 HE'S A GOOD GUY AND I BELIEVE HIM AND I TRUST HIM, BUT HE
22:03:31 INDICATES WELL, WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED 100,000 TO THAT
22:03:35 LITTLE SECTION OF INTERBAY RIGHT THERE.
22:03:37 WELL THAT MIGHT HELP GET YOU A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OUT --
22:03:43 TO GET YOU OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BUT IT SURE AS HECK
22:03:45 ISN'T GOING TO HELP YOU GET OUT OF THE ENTIRE SOUTH OF
22:03:47 GANDY.
22:03:51 I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE STUCK DOWN THERE, AND I THINK THAT
22:03:54 APPROVING MORE AND MORE PROJECTS INCLUDING THIS ONE IS
22:03:57 JUST GOING TO EXACERBATE THAT PROBLEM.
22:04:01 SO LET ME CITE SOME ADDITIONAL POLICIES THAT HIM
22:04:04 CONCERNED WITH, IN ADDITION TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
22:04:07 AREA.
22:04:09 ADDITIONALLY -- AND I SPOKE TO THIS MORE LAST MONTH THAN
22:04:14 THEY DID TODAY, BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR WAIVERS OF
22:04:19 SECTION 27-284.2.5 AS RELATED TO REMOVAL OF FIVE
22:04:26 NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREES, IN OTHER WORDS, FIVE HEALTHY
22:04:30 GRAND TREES, AND WE LOOKED AT THOSE LAST MONTH, AS WELL
22:04:35 AS TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL TREES REMOVED FROM
22:04:39 THE SITE FROM 50 PERCENT WHICH IS THE ALLOWABLE REMOVAL
22:04:43 UP TO IT 90% WHICH IS ALMOST TOTAL REMOVAL.
22:04:46 I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
22:04:48 TO JUSTIFY THAT, OKAY.
22:04:52 I THINK THAT PERHAPS IF THIS WAS A SINGLE FAMILY
22:04:56 DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE THERE COULD BE MORE SAVING OF THOSE
22:05:00 TREES.
22:05:00 I DON'T KNOW.
22:05:02 BUT WITH THIS KIND OF DENSITY, SURE, YOU HAVE GOT TO
22:05:06 COVER THE ENTIRE SITE WITH DIRT, AND THEN START OVER.
22:05:10 AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GOT TO KILL ALL THOSE
22:05:13 TREES.
22:05:13 BUT THERE'S TESTIMONY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FROM MY
22:05:18 FRIEND JEFFREY, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHO
22:05:22 SAID THEY ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREE REMOVAL THAT
22:05:26 THEY KIND OF SHRUGGED THEIR SHOULDER AND SAID, WELL, IF
22:05:29 THE PROJECT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED, WE'LL TRY TO PLANT TREES
22:05:33 ELSEWHERE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD EFFORT AND I APPLAUD
22:05:35 YOU FOR YOUR CREATIVITY.
22:05:37 I MEAN THAT IN ALL SINCERITY.
22:05:39 BUT I WOULD SAY LET'S NOT REMOVE THE TREES TO START WITH.
22:05:42 AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVEN'T SATISFIED THAT.
22:05:51 THE OTHER REQUEST ON THE WAIVER SIDE IS SECTION 27-283.7
22:05:57 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FROM 360
22:06:01 TO 310.
22:06:02 NEITHER SIDE REALLY SPOKE TO THAT IN PARTICULAR.
22:06:06 BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE BURDEN IS ON THE PETITIONER TO
22:06:10 JUSTIFY WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE A 14% REDUCTION IN PARKING
22:06:15 SPACES, IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING WITHIN THE PROJECT,
22:06:21 THEN VISITORS AND GUESTS MIGHT KIND OF SLOSH OUT INTO THE
22:06:26 SURROUNDING AREAS.
22:06:29 AND THEN SPECIFICALLY, MR. SHELBY, OUR ATTORNEY POINTS ME
22:06:36 TO SECTION 27-139-4 WHICH SPEAKS TO THE WAIVERS.
22:06:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE REASON I DID THAT IS YOU DO RELY
22:06:48 ON, I APPRECIATE YOU RECITING THE SPECIFIC CODE.
22:06:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THAT.
22:07:02 27-139 PAREN 4 SPEAKS TO THE CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION
22:07:05 OF A WAIVER, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE MET. PAREN
22:07:11 A SAYS THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE
22:07:13 AND THEREFORE IN NEED OF A WAIVER.
22:07:14 I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT KIND OF TESTIMONY THAT'S PERSUASIVE
22:07:18 TO ME ON THAT ISSUE.
22:07:21 PAREN B SAYS THE WAIVER WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE
22:07:23 WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
22:07:25 WE HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY AT A MINIMUM ABOUT THE LOSS OF
22:07:28 TREES THAT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERES WITH EVERYBODY'S
22:07:33 RIGHT.
22:07:34 AND FRANKLY IT INTERFERE WAS OUR TREE CODE.
22:07:39 PAREN C SPEAKS TO THE WAIVERS IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL
22:07:42 INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE CHAPTER.
22:07:44 THE LDRs AND THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:07:48 AND AGAIN I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE INCONSISTENCIES
22:07:51 THERE.
22:07:52 AND FINALLY, PAREN D, THAT ALLOWING THE WAIVER WILL
22:07:55 RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL INJUSTICE BEING DONE CONSIDERING
22:08:01 THE BENEFITS INTENDED, AND I GUESS THAT'S UP TO EACH ONE
22:08:04 OF US TO DECIDE.
22:08:05 THAT'S WHERE A BALANCING OF THE INDIVIDUAL HARDSHIPS
22:08:09 VERSUS THE OVERALL WELL-BEING OF THE PROJECT, IN MY
22:08:13 OPINION.
22:08:14 I DON'T BELIEVE -- I THINK ON BALANCE THIS COMES DOWN TO
22:08:18 THE INJUSTICE BEING DONE TO THE COMMUNITY AS COMPARED TO
22:08:22 ANY INDIVIDUAL HARDSHIPS THAT MIGHT FALL ON THE PROPERTY
22:08:26 OWNER/PETITIONER.
22:08:31 I THINK THAT'S IT.
22:08:32 MY MOTION IS TO DENY.
22:08:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU COUNCILMAN.
22:08:35 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE?
22:08:38 OKAY.
22:08:39 ANYTHING FROM STAFF BEFORE WE VOTE?
22:08:52 OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:08:55 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
22:08:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:08:58 ANY OPPOSED?
22:08:59 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND YES, ALL
22:09:04 OF THE CODE SECTIONS WILL BE ON THE RECORDING.
22:09:08 THANK YOU.
22:09:09 >>LUIS VIERA: AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO BREAK FOR FIVE
22:09:11 MINUTES.
22:09:12 WE WILL BE BACK.
22:09:13 [RECESS]
22:09:13
22:21:07 (ROLL CALL)
22:22:39 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
22:22:40 NEXT.
22:22:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
22:22:43 COORDINATION.
22:22:44 ITEM NUMBER 8 ON YOUR AGENDA IS REZ 19-58, REZONING --
22:22:51 19-68, AT 4702 AND 4704 NORTH 40TH STREET AND 4608 NORTH
22:22:58 MANLEY STREET FROM CI AND RS-50 TO PD LIGHT
22:23:05 MANUFACTURING.
22:23:05 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
22:23:08 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
22:23:11 WE REMAIN IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
22:23:14 NEXT CASE.
22:23:18 THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
22:23:25 THE URBAN VILLAGE SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTION IN THE
22:23:30 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:23:31 THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED ALONG NORTH 40th STREET, AND
22:23:34 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
22:23:39 IT SHOULD BE NOTED ON THE MAP THAT 40TH STREET IS A
22:23:45 TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR AND ALSO AN IDENTIFIED MIXED USE
22:23:49 CORRIDOR.
22:23:51 ONTO THE AERIAL.
22:23:52 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
22:23:54 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS 40th STREET.
22:23:57 YOU HAVE GOT THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THIS IS CHELSEA TO THE
22:24:00 SOUTH.
22:24:01 40TH STREET, THIS SEGMENT HAS A MIXTURE OF LIGHT
22:24:04 COMMERCIAL USES.
22:24:07 THERE'S SOME CHURCHES, MOUNT CALVARY, 7th DAY
22:24:11 ADVENTIST TO THE NORTH.
22:24:12 THERE'S MOUNT OLIVE MISSIONARY BAPTIST KIND OF TO THE
22:24:16 SOUTHEAST.
22:24:20 BUT OFF THE CORRIDOR IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY
22:24:26 DETACHED WITH SOME SCATTERED DUPLEX.
22:24:29 ONTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
22:24:32 THE SUBJECT SITE HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
22:24:36 THE FRONT PORTION, ROUGHLY .34 ACRES, IS DESIGNATED THAT
22:24:44 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 THAT IS REPRESENTED BY THE RED.
22:24:47 IN THE BACK, THE APPROXIMATE .48 ACRES REMAINING IN THE
22:24:53 BACK AND ALL THIS TAN IS THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 THAT'S
22:24:59 PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
22:25:01 AND THEN THERE IS SOME HIGHER DENSITY PLANNED ALONG EAST
22:25:05 OSBORNE AND NORTHEAST UP ON LOUISIANA AND ELLICOTT ON THE
22:25:10 EAST SIDE.
22:25:15 THE SITE AGAIN IS WITHIN THAT EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
22:25:19 WITHIN URBAN VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT MULTIPLE FUTURE LAND USE
22:25:23 DESIGNATIONS, PROPORTIONATELY LAY THE FLOOR AREA RATIO
22:25:28 OVER THE ENTIRE SITE, AND USES WITHIN EACH LAND USE
22:25:31 CATEGORY MAY BE CONSIDERED ANYWHERE ON THE SITE THROUGH
22:25:37 AN APPROVED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONE.
22:25:39 THE FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
22:25:41 IS PROPORTIONATELY DISTRIBUTED OVER THE ENTIRE SITE AND
22:25:45 WITHIN EACH LAND USE CATEGORY, AND THAT IS CONSISTENT
22:25:48 WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION IN THE PLAN.
22:25:50 THIS PORTION OF NORTH 40TH STREET CORRIDOR IS
22:25:53 CHARACTERIZED BY A MIX OF LATE INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT
22:25:57 COMMERCIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, PUBLIC-SEMI-PUBLIC
22:26:00 USES.
22:26:01 THE SITE ADD JOINS SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH.
22:26:09 THE STAFF ENCOURAGES TO MAKE SURE IT IS APPROPRIATELY
22:26:14 BUFFERED FROM THE ADJOINING RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH AND TO
22:26:18 THE WEST OF THE SITE ALONG CURTIS STREET. IN CONCLUSION
22:26:21 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSAL IS
22:26:23 CONSISTENT WITH MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
22:26:26 PLAN RELATED TO REDEVELOPMENT IN URBAN VILLAGES, AND
22:26:31 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
22:26:33 FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE
22:26:36 PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:26:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
22:26:40 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
22:26:45 COORDINATION.
22:26:46 THIS PROPERTY IS ON 40TH STREET.
22:26:52 AGAIN THEY ARE ASKING FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR LIGHT
22:26:56 MANUFACTURING USE.
22:26:59 IT'S A LITTLE OVER 16,000 FEET, 16,425.
22:27:03 THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY MANUFACTURING USE, ONE BLOCK TO
22:27:09 THE SOUTH OF CURTIS STREET.
22:27:15 THE MAJORITY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
22:27:18 IN THE BACK PART IS ZONED RS-50 SINGLE-FAMILY
22:27:21 RESIDENTIAL.
22:27:22 THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
22:27:23 IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE
22:27:26 NORTH, SOUTH, AND WEST, AND THEN TO THE DIRECT NORTHEAST,
22:27:32 EAST ACROSS 40TH STREET, MANUFACTURING, RETAIL AND OFFICE
22:27:36 USES.
22:27:39 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE 5 FEET FROM THE NORTH, 10 FEET
22:27:42 FROM THE SOUTH, 10 FEET TO THE WEST, 10 FEET TO THE EAST.
22:27:45 MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 45 FEET.
22:27:47 BASED ON THE USE, THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES
22:27:50 IS 6 AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED 6 SPACES.
22:27:53 THEY ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO ALLOW FOR TWO LOADING
22:27:59 SPACES THAT QUALIFY, 50 BY 60.
22:28:03 THEY ARE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN THE USE-TO-USE BUFFER
22:28:06 TO THE SOUTH.
22:28:08 THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA,
22:28:13 MUNICIPALITY USE, SO INSTEAD OF A 15-FOOT BUFFER THEY ARE
22:28:16 ASKING TO REDUCE THAT TO 10-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, CMU,
22:28:21 AND THEN THE OTHER WAIVER IS THE CORRECTION OF A STAFF
22:28:24 REPORT, 27-284, REMOVAL OF TWO NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREES,
22:28:34 32-INCH AND 54-INCH OAK TREE, AND IN THE CURRENT TREE
22:28:40 CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR REMOVAL OF GRAND TREES.
22:28:43 IF THIS IS APPROVED, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST
22:28:46 AND SECOND READING.
22:28:48 WITH THE PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION ON
22:28:51 PAGE 2 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT, THE URBAN DESIGN DEPARTMENT
22:28:55 DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH A COUPLE CHANGES BETWEEN
22:29:00 FIRST AND SECOND READING FOR REQUIREMENTS FOR BUFFERING,
22:29:03 AND NATURAL RESOURCES DID FIND IT CONSISTENT IF THERE ARE
22:29:07 A NUMBER OF CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND
22:29:09 SECOND READING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
22:29:11 CODE.
22:29:14 ALSO FOR THE TREES, THERE IS THE TREE EVALUATION IN THE
22:29:18 STAFF REPORT.
22:29:19 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLAINS STAFF HAS FOUND IT
22:29:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
22:29:23 REGULATIONS.
22:29:25 AGAIN, SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO
22:29:29 APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE REMEMBER THE
22:29:32 MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AS WELL AS
22:29:35 THE GRAND TREE REMOVAL.
22:29:40 ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
22:29:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT DO THEY PLAN TO BUILD THERE?
22:29:44 >> IT'S A LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE.
22:29:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
22:29:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
22:29:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
22:29:53 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
22:29:54 >> MY NAME IS PATRICIA ORTIZ, AND MY ADDRESS IS 2810
22:30:00 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
22:30:01 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
22:30:03 AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHERE I WAS GOING TO START,
22:30:08 WE ARE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE
22:30:10 ON THIS VACANT LOT TO ALLOW FOR THE PRODUCTION AND
22:30:13 TRANSPORTATION OF MEDITERRANEAN CUISINE.
22:30:17 THE PROPERTY OWNER WORKS FOR GLOBAL FOOD, WHICH IS A FOOD
22:30:24 MANUFACTURER OF MEDITERRANEAN ITEMS SUCH AS FOLOSSA, HUM
22:30:31 US, ET CETERA.
22:30:32 WE ARE ASKING FOR THE WAIVERS AS DESCRIBED BY MARY, AND
22:30:36 I'LL PUT A LITTLE GRAPHIC FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
22:30:40 THIS AREA IS RED, IDENTIFIES OUR LOADING DOCK AREA, AND
22:30:48 AS MARY MENTIONED TO YOU,
22:30:50 WE ARE ASKING INFORM A SMALLER LOADING DOCK RATHER THAN
22:30:53 THE ONE LARGER 15 BY 60 AND THAT'S BECAUSE OUR PRODUCT IS
22:30:58 SMALL.
22:30:58 FOOD ITEMS.
22:30:59 WE ARE GOING TO BE USING BOX TRUCKS RATHER THAN SEMI
22:31:02 TRACTORS TO TRANSPORT THE GOODS.
22:31:05 WE ARE ALSO ASKING INFORM REDUCED BUFFER JUST FOR 85 FEET
22:31:10 ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, AND THAT'S WHERE THE
22:31:13 PROPERTY IS RS-50 BUT OWNED BY THE CITY. THIS LOT IS
22:31:20 ALSO VACANT.
22:31:22 THE TWO TREES THAT WERE SPOKEN OF, WE HAVE A 32-INCH
22:31:26 PECAN TREE AND A 54-INCH OAK TREE.
22:31:29 THESE TREES HAVE BEEN EVALUATED BY NATURAL RESOURCES
22:31:32 STAFF AND WE RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION OF CONSISTENT FROM
22:31:37 NATURAL RESOURCES.
22:31:41 I HAVE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING.
22:31:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO CLARIFY, THE DRAWING SAYS
22:31:53 32-INCH LAUREL INSTEAD OF PECAN.
22:31:55 AND ALSO THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION EARLIER.
22:31:58 MY UNDERSTANDING FROM READING THE STAFF REPORT IS A
22:32:02 54-INCH OAK HAS ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED TO BE HAZARDOUS.
22:32:07 I KNOW THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A RIGHT TO TAKE IT OUT UNDER
22:32:10 THE PD, BUT JUST A CLARIFICATION.
22:32:15 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: I AM NOT SURE BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT
22:32:19 I DO KNOW ABOUT THIS TREE.
22:32:22 WE HAVE WORKED WITH NATURAL RESOURCES, AND WENT OUT TO
22:32:27 STAKE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
22:32:29 NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF WENT OUT TO LOOK AT THIS.
22:32:32 THEY REALIZED WHILE THEY WERE OUT DOING THE ASSESSMENT
22:32:35 THAT THE TREE WAS UNHEALTHY, AND THAT IT WOULD BE BETTERS
22:32:38 TO REMOVE THE TREE PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION THAN AFTER
22:32:42 CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT WOULD
22:32:45 PREVENT REMOVAL OF THAT TREE DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE WERE TO
22:32:52 TRY TO SAVE THAT TREE WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IN A CRANE
22:32:55 AT THAT TIME IF THE TREE DIED.
22:33:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND CALLS FOR THE HAZARDOUS TREE,
22:33:03 STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OR POOR HEALTH.
22:33:06 >> MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS A HAZARDOUS TREE BUT I THINK
22:33:11 STAFF -- WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO FINISH MY PRESENTATION?
22:33:21 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
22:33:22 OKAY.
22:33:24 GO AHEAD.
22:33:24 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST
22:33:27 APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THIS USE BECAUSE IT'S IN HARMONY
22:33:31 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG NORTH 40TH STREET, AND
22:33:35 ALSO BECAUSE THE PROJECT FRONTS NORTH 40TH STREET WHICH
22:33:41 IS A WELL FUNCTIONING ARTERIAL ROADWAY, WHICH PROVIDES
22:33:44 CONNECTION TO ADAMO DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS STATE ROAD 60,
22:33:50 MARTIN LUTHER KING AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE WHICH WOULD
22:33:52 THEN ALLOW CONNECTIONS WITH THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM TO
22:33:55 ALLOW TRANSPORT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THE GREATER
22:34:00 STATE WIDE.
22:34:00 AND ALSO BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA
22:34:04 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA WHERE USES SUCH AS LIGHT
22:34:08 INDUSTRIAL ARE CONSIDERED TARGETED INDUSTRIES.
22:34:14 WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.
22:34:20 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
22:34:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
22:34:25 A FEW THINGS YOU SAID BUT NOT ALL BECAUSE I LIVE IN EAST
22:34:29 TAMPA.
22:34:29 I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW -- AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY
22:34:32 BASIS ON MY DECISION -- BUT TELL ME ABOUT THIS BUSINESS,
22:34:35 AND TELL ME, ARE WE HIRING PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY?
22:34:38 OR ARE WE JUST --
22:34:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN, EXCUSE ME, BUT I AM GOING
22:34:46 TO ASK, I KNOW IT MAY HAVE NO BEARING ON YOUR DECISION,
22:34:51 BUT FOR QUESTIONS -- [OFF MICROPHONE]
22:35:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE REASON I AM ASKING THAT QUESTION
22:35:09 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT
22:35:12 WHAT'S THERE, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE.
22:35:14 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR WHAT'S GOING
22:35:16 THERE, AND I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THE TOTAL PURPOSE
22:35:22 OF IT IS.
22:35:33 >> RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A PD WITH THE USE OF LIGHT
22:35:36 MANUFACTURING.
22:35:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
22:35:37 I AM GOING TO GET TO THAT, ASK STAFF ABOUT THAT.
22:35:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY IS WHAT IS
22:35:43 THE USE -- [OFF MICROPHONE]
22:35:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I CAN ASK STAFF.
22:35:54 WHAT ELSE COULD BE THERE, IF WE APPROVE THIS, AND FIVE
22:35:58 MONTHS LATE THEY ARE BUSINESS GOES.
22:36:00 WHAT ELSE COULD GO IN THIS SPOT?
22:36:04 STAFF?
22:36:04 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ANY OTHER TYPE OF LIGHT MANUFACTURING
22:36:11 USE, LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE, IS ANY USE WHERE YOU
22:36:17 ASSEMBLE DIFFERENT PARTS TO MAKE A PRODUCT.
22:36:20 SO IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.
22:36:25 SO YOU ARE APPROVING ANY TYPE OF LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE
22:36:28 THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT DEFINITION.
22:36:29 NOT NECESSARILY HER CLIENT'S BUSINESS.
22:36:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS THE REASON I ASK THAT IS
22:36:36 BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT SOME OTHER ISSUES, OTHER TYPE OF
22:36:40 DEVELOPMENTS THAT GO IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA.
22:36:43 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS USE WON'T AFFECT THE
22:36:54 STATUS -- [OFF MICROPHONE] I GUESS THE ISSUE WITHIN THE
22:36:59 ZONE I GUESS IS WHY I AM ASKING.
22:37:02 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: MAY I FOLLOW UP?
22:37:05 THE PROPOSED USE IS LIGHT MANUFACTURING.
22:37:08 AND TO ANSWER YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION, I HAVE RESEARCHED
22:37:11 THIS, THE CRA, AND I KNOW ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.
22:37:16 I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE
22:37:21 ZONE BUT WE ARE SORT OF PUTTING -- WE ARE GETTING AHEAD
22:37:24 OF OURSELVES HERE.
22:37:26 I THEY WILL WORK WITH THE ENTERPRISE ZONE BUT I CAN'T SEE
22:37:34 WHY HE WOULDN'T BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY INCENTIVES TO
22:37:37 ENCOURAGE HIM TO DO SO.
22:37:38 AND AGAIN THIS IS A LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE, AND IT WOULD
22:37:44 BE MANUFACTURING FOOD ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
22:37:47 MEDITERRANEAN CUISINE.
22:37:49 AND I HAVE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING.
22:37:51 THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING.
22:37:52 IT'S GOING TO BE A BRAND NEW BUILDING AND THIS WOULD BE
22:37:55 THE VIEW LOOKING FROM THE NORTHEAST.
22:37:59 FROM THE SOUTHEAST.
22:38:02 AND THIS RENDERING DOES INCLUDE ONE OF THE TREES WHICH IS
22:38:07 SUPPOSED TO BE REMOVED, SO PUT A BIG X OVER THAT TREE.
22:38:12 THAT TREE IS GOING AWAY BUT THE RENDERING IS STILL
22:38:14 INCLUDED.
22:38:14 SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE RETENTION AREA, AND THE WALL,
22:38:19 AND THE REAR PART OF THE PROPERTY.
22:38:22 AND ALONG THIS NORTHERN EDGE WHERE THE SITE ABUTS
22:38:25 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT BUFFER
22:38:29 AT 15 FEET AS REQUIRED BY CODE.
22:38:32 ON THE SOUTH SIDE, FOR A DISTANCE OF 85 FEET, WE ARE
22:38:37 GOING TO REDUCE THAT BUFFER AREA FROM 15 FEET TO 10 FEET,
22:38:41 AND THAT ADJACENT NEIGHBOR, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED
22:38:46 RESIDENTIAL 50 BUT THE LOT IS FACING AND IS OWNED BY THE
22:38:50 CITY.
22:38:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
22:38:52 APPRECIATE IT.
22:38:53 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
22:38:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:38:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITHOUT DIGGING INTO THE SITE PLAN, IN
22:39:03 TERMS OF EMPLOYEE PARKING, HOW MANY EMPLOYEE PARKING
22:39:06 SPACES DO YOU HAVE, AND ARE YOU MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT?
22:39:11 >> YES. SIX ARE REQUIRED AND SIX ARE PROPOSED.
22:39:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIX?
22:39:18 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: YES.
22:39:23 THE REQUIRED PARKING IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES
22:39:27 AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE PARKING.
22:39:28 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
22:39:32 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
22:39:33 APPRECIATE IT.
22:39:34 ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 8?
22:39:36 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
22:39:37 >> I'M SORRY, MR. DINGFELDER ASKED FOR COMMENT REGARDING
22:39:45 THE OAK TREE.
22:39:45 >> I'M BILL BOARS WITH NATURAL RESOURCES.
22:40:00 WHAT'S YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION AGAIN?
22:40:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCY IN THE
22:40:05 VERBAL REPORT AND THE WRITTEN REPORT.
22:40:08 I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED.
22:40:10 THE LAUREL OAK WAS ALREADY IN DECLINE, AND YOU ARE OKAY
22:40:14 WITH IT BEING REMOVED.
22:40:15 >> YES.
22:40:18 IT'S GOT HOLES THROUGHOUT THE TRUNK.
22:40:22 IT'S SUBORDINATE TO A NEARBY TREE AND IT'S ONE SIDED.
22:40:27 IT'S IN DECLINE.
22:40:28 DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
22:40:32 AND IT IS A STAND-ALONE TREE.
22:40:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THE PECAN IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
22:40:43 OF THE BUILDING?
22:40:44 >> YEAH.
22:40:45 THAT'S NOT A GOOD TREE EITHER.
22:40:54 THE REASON WHY IN THE STAFF REPORT AS A GRAND TREE, IT
22:40:59 WAS -- BACK IN JUNE THE STATUS CHANGED FROM A 34-INCH
22:41:07 TREE TO NOW A 32-INCH TREE IS A GRAND TREE.
22:41:10 LOWERED IT BY TWO INCHES.
22:41:15 BUT IT STARTED OUT AS A NONGRAND TREE UNDER THE OLD CODE.
22:41:23 IT WASN'T MUCH OF A TREE ANYWAY.
22:41:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO THEY HAVE TO PAY INTO A TREE FUND
22:41:29 FOR THE REMOVAL?
22:41:30 >> WE ARE HOPING THEY DO. THAT'S OUR GOAL.
22:41:34 THE TREE FUND IS REALLY JUST A SAFETY VALVE.
22:41:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
22:41:47 PUBLIC COMMENT.
22:41:48 ITEM NUMBER 8, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT
22:41:50 ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
22:41:53 AND SO WE KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS ARE HERE TO COMMENT?
22:41:58 ONE OF THE.
22:41:58 >> GOOD EVENING.
22:42:03 MONA JUDGE, 4713.
22:42:06 I AM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LOCATION.
22:42:14 SO I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS TUESDAY.
22:42:19 ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE LOT CAME TO MY
22:42:24 JOB TUESDAY TO TELL ME ABOUT IT.
22:42:27 AND OF COURSE THEY ASKED ME TO COME DOWN.
22:42:29 AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
22:42:32 BUT I DO KNOW IN JUNE, I BELIEVE, AND I COME BACK MONDAY,
22:42:37 AND THERE ARE GETS ON THE LOT.
22:42:41 WE CALLED DOWNTOWN.
22:42:43 WE CALLED MR. GUDES, REPRESENTATIVE GUDES, AND THEY
22:42:47 STAYED THERE FOR ABOUT MAYBE THREE, FOUR WEEKS BEFORE THE
22:42:53 GETS ARRIVED.
22:42:59 AND IT'S A JUNKYARD.
22:43:00 THEY GOT CARS.
22:43:01 THEY GOT TRUCKS.
22:43:04 AND WE JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT -- IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ON
22:43:12 THAT SIDE OF 40TH STREET, EVEN WEST OF THEM IS A BUILDING
22:43:20 THERE, AND IT'S SMALL MANUFACTURING.
22:43:26 THEY DON'T KEEP IT UP.
22:43:27 IT IS NOT -- THAT IS WHERE THE OPERATION IS, AND THE
22:43:40 JOBS, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.
22:43:41 WE ARE LOOKING FOR LIVING WAGE.
22:43:44 THEY AREN'T GOING TO SHALL PAYING THAT KIND OF MONEY.
22:43:47 WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO REALLY FIND OUT WHAT IT IS AND WHAT
22:43:50 IT'S GOING TO BE.
22:43:53 I'M HOPING FOR THE SECOND READ WE CAN GET SOME NEIGHBORS
22:43:57 IN AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR CRA EVEN
22:44:03 WANTS THERE ON 40TH STREET.
22:44:07 IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE THINK WANT ON 40TH STREET.
22:44:09 THANK YOU.
22:44:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:44:11 NEXT, PLEASE.
22:44:12 >> GOOD EVENING.
22:44:23 CONNIE BURTON.
22:44:25 I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A COMMUNITY DOESN'T
22:44:27 HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN, AND OF COURSE THIS IS AMERICA, SO
22:44:32 PEOPLE CAN PURCHASE PROPERTY AND DO WHAT THEY WANT.
22:44:37 BUT I THINK A BETTER APPROACH WOULD HAVE BEEN AS BEING A
22:44:41 GOOD NEIGHBOR TO SEEK OUT THE CRA, TO LET US KNOW THE
22:44:47 INTENT AS WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE TO UPLIFT THEIR
22:44:50 COMMUNITY.
22:44:52 THAT IF A NEW BUILDING IS COMING AND WE NEED EMPLOYMENT,
22:44:55 THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OTHER THAN THEY WILL BE THERE, BUT
22:45:00 HOW DO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AS A RESULT OF THEM COMING?
22:45:04 I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, GIVE
22:45:07 OUR COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD OUT INSTEAD OF FILL
22:45:14 A VACANT LAND, PEOPLE SEEING IT AS A PRIME OPPORTUNITY
22:45:19 FOR THEM, BUT IT'S NOT MATCHING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE
22:45:25 COMMUNITY.
22:45:25 THANK YOU.
22:45:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
22:45:28 ANYONE ELSE?
22:45:29 OKAY.
22:45:30 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
22:45:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO STAFF.
22:45:36 I RECALL NORMALLY WHEN NEW BUSINESSES TRY TO GET INTO
22:45:40 EAST TAMPA, ESPECIALLY A CRA, THE CRA IS GOING TO BE
22:45:47 NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS.
22:45:48 IS THAT CORRECT?
22:45:48 OH LAND DEVELOPMENT, TELL
22:46:04 >> THE CRA, EAST TAMPA STAFF REPRESENTATIVE, WAS ROUTED
22:46:13 THE PLAN.
22:46:15 I RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FROM THEM.
22:46:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE SAYING YOU SENT THIS TO THE CRA
22:46:23 MANAGER AND DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, THE CRA MADE A REFERENCE
22:46:29 TO THIS PLAN?
22:46:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO.
22:46:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S A PROBLEM.
22:46:33 THE CRA THERE, ANY TYPE OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS THAT
22:46:37 CRA, SO THE CRA IS SEEKING WHAT'S GOING ON.
22:46:47 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE REQUIRED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
22:46:56 WERE SENT NOTICE, AND THE ZONING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN
22:47:02 350 FEET.
22:47:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO DID YOU SPEAK WITH?
22:47:05 I KNOW EVERY ASSOCIATION LOCATED AROUND THERE.
22:47:08 >> THE STAFF DOESN'T SEND NOTICE.
22:47:14 THE APPLICANT DOES.
22:47:15 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: AGAIN, I COMPLIED WITH THE NOTICE
22:47:20 REQUIREMENT.
22:47:21 I SENT A LETTER OF CERTIFICATE OF MAILING TO THE RAINBOW
22:47:24 HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER
22:47:30 THE LAST NAME OF THIS PERSON.
22:47:32 BUT A LETTER WAS SPECIFICALLY MAILED TO THIS PERSON
22:47:37 CONSISTENT WITH THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
22:47:41 THE SITE WAS POSTED WITH SIGNS INDICATING PUBLIC HEARING
22:47:45 WAS TO OCCUR ON THIS DATE.
22:47:47 AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY CALLS OR QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE
22:47:51 IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT EVEN THE COMMUNITY LEADER.
22:47:55 SO --
22:47:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 40TH
22:48:00 STREET.
22:48:05 I CAN'T THINK OF HER NAME.
22:48:07 I'M JUST SURPRISED BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS, THEY ARE
22:48:12 CONSISTENT.
22:48:13 AND FRANKIE IS CONSISTENT.
22:48:16 GOSH, I CAN'T THINK OF HER NAME IN JACKSON RIGHTS RIGHT
22:48:20 NEXT TO IT.
22:48:21 THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THINGS GOING ON, ESPECIALLY THE
22:48:23 CRA.
22:48:25 I'M REALLY STUNNED THAT YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM
22:48:27 THE CRA MANAGER EVEN COMING FROM THE CAC CHAIRPERSON.
22:48:33 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: NO, SIR.
22:48:34 I RECEIVED NO INDICATION OF NO CALLS, NO CORRESPONDENCE
22:48:39 WHATSOEVER.
22:48:40 SO IT LED ME TO BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WAS SOMETHING
22:48:43 THAT WAS VIEWED FAVORABLY BY ALL THOSE NOTICED, INCLUDING
22:48:48 THE CRA.
22:49:02 IT WAS DUAL NOTICED AND STAFF PASSED IT ON THE TOTAL
22:49:07 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
22:49:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE THE CRA MANAGER HAS NOTE
22:49:17 RESPONDED, THAT'S A CONCERN.
22:49:19 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
22:49:24 NO, IN SHORT ORDER, NO.
22:49:25 IF THE APPLICANT HAS INCLUDED THE NOTICE AS IS REQUIRED
22:49:30 UNDER YOUR CODE, TONIGHT IS A HEARING WHERE PEOPLE ARE
22:49:33 SUPPOSED TO COME AND PARTICIPATE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION
22:49:36 TO YOU.
22:49:39 AND IT CAN'T BE CONTINUED, BECAUSE PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT,
22:49:44 AND CHOSE NOT TO COME TO THE HEARING.
22:49:46 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
22:49:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF FOLKS GET THE WORD OUT, AND --
22:50:09 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
22:50:12 DINGFELDER, ONE FRIENDLY DIRECTION, THERE'S THE TEN
22:50:15 COMMANDMENTS, AND WE CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT THE
22:50:18 APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AVAIL
22:50:21 THEMSELVES TO A COMMUNITY MEETING WHICH OF COURSE WE
22:50:24 CANNOT ATTEND, BUT WITH THE CRA, THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD
22:50:30 CENTERS, TO RAISE LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT COUNCILMAN
22:50:34 GUDES HAS WITHOUT LEGALLY BURDENING THE PROCESS.
22:50:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH
22:50:46 THE CAC MANAGER, ED JOHNSON.
22:50:50 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: OH, ED JOHNSON, YES.
22:50:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE CAC OF EAST
22:51:00 TAMPA, NATASHA GOODLY.
22:51:07 AND I THINK ONCE YOU SPEAK TO THOSE FOLKS, YOU WILL BE
22:51:10 ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH MRS. FRANKIE WHOSE NEIGHBORHOOD
22:51:15 IS RIGHT THERE, AND THE ASSOCIATION ACROSS THE STREET.
22:51:19 >> WELL, PERHAPS THE ATTORNEY WOULD HELP WITH US THIS
22:51:24 QUESTION, BUT I AM REQUIRED TO NOTICE RAINBOW HEIGHTS.
22:51:27 I DON'T MIND REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
22:51:30 ASSOCIATION, BUT OF COURSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SUPPORT
22:51:34 FOR THIS PROJECT, AND I BELIEVE IT IS A GOOD PROJECT, IN
22:51:38 THE PROPER LOCATION.
22:51:39 BUT I AM NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT.
22:51:42 I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT.
22:51:46 OF COURSE I WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND I WANT
22:51:48 THE COMMUNITY TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
22:51:50 BUT THAT'S NOT REQUIRED.
22:51:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM JUST SAYING, I KNOW THIS IS
22:51:59 HAPPENING IN REALTIME NOW.
22:52:00 I KNOW THAT REALTIME PHONE -- WILL BE RINGING OFF THE
22:52:06 HOOK TOMORROW.
22:52:07 YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING, YOU KNOW.
22:52:09 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: AND I AM GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE
22:52:14 NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
22:52:17 I HAVE SPOKEN REQUEST MR. JOHNSON IN THE PAST AND I DON'T
22:52:19 MIND DOING THAT AGAIN.
22:52:20 BUT I AM NOT TRYING TO BE SUBVERTIVE HERE.
22:52:24 I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING I AM REQUIRED TO DO AND I HAVEN'T
22:52:27 HEARD A PEEP FROM ANYONE UNTIL TONIGHT.
22:52:29 SO I THOUGHT ALL WERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
22:52:32 BUT I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM.
22:52:35 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I THINK ALL COUNCILMAN GUDES IS
22:52:37 ASKING, WHICH WILL VERY LIKELY HAVE NO BEARING LEGALLY
22:52:41 THAT'S BINDING ON THE DECISION, JUST TO BE, I'LL USE THE
22:52:45 TERM, GOOD CITIZEN, JUST TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR HIS
22:52:49 CONCERN.
22:52:49 I THINK THAT WOULD BE WELL TAKEN.
22:52:51 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO
22:52:53 AND I AM AGREEING TO DO THAT.
22:52:55 AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS MADE
22:52:57 BY THE NEIGHBORS WHO JUST SPOKE.
22:53:02 >>LUIS VIERA: REBUTTAL.
22:53:02 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: SO I HAVE CONTACTED THE PROPERTY OWNER
22:53:06 IN REGARD TO GOATS BEING LOCATED ON-SITE.
22:53:13 HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GOATS BEING ON-SITE.
22:53:17 I, HOWEVER, DID HEAR A RUMOR ABOUT GOATS BEING LOCATED ON
22:53:21 HIS PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS POSTING THE SIGNS OF
22:53:24 NOTICE.
22:53:24 ONE OF THE PEOPLE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK SAID, OH, ARE
22:53:27 YOU BRINGING THE GETS BACK?
22:53:30 AND I SAID, NO.
22:53:31 BUT I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO.
22:53:33 BUT I HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE AND WE DON'T INTEND TO HAVE
22:53:38 LIVE ANIMALS ON THE PROPERTY.
22:53:40 THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM WITH SOME ILLEGAL DUMPING
22:53:43 WHICH MY CLIENT HAS TAKEN CARE OF TO THE BEST OF HIS
22:53:48 ABILITY.
22:53:49 WHEN I WAS OUT THERE LAST, I THINK THERE WAS TRASH ON THE
22:53:54 SITE BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF ILLEGAL DUMPING.
22:53:57 WE DO HAVE A LAWN CARE SERVICE THAT WAS GOING OUT TRYING
22:54:00 TO MAINTAIN THIS PROPERTY.
22:54:01 BUT THEY SORT OF DISAPPEARED ON US.
22:54:03 WE HAVE GOTTEN A NEW CREW HIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS
22:54:09 PROPERTY IS PROPERLY MOWED AND MAINTAINED.
22:54:13 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
22:54:15 WE APPRECIATE IT.
22:54:18 MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE UNLESS COUNSEL WISHES TO
22:54:21 INQUIRE FURTHER?
22:54:23 MANISCALCO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
22:54:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:54:26 I DON'T KNOW WHOSE TURN IT WAS.
22:54:28 SO WHO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ONE?
22:54:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] REZ 19-68.
22:54:43 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
22:54:47 GENERAL VICINITY OF 4702 AND 4704 NORTH 40TH STREET AND
22:54:53 4608 NORTH MANLEY STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
22:54:58 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
22:55:00 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO RS-50
22:55:05 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
22:55:08 LIGHT MANUFACTURING, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AS THE
22:55:12 PETITIONER MET THE BURDEN.
22:55:18 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
22:55:24 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:55:26 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, GO AHEAD, SIR.
22:55:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL DEFER TO MR. GUDES IF HE WANTS
22:55:31 TO GO FIRST.
22:55:34 ALL RIGHT.
22:55:34 SO I'M NO EXPERT ON THE AREA, BUT I HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN
22:55:44 40TH STREET MANY TIMES, AND WHAT I SEE IS VACANT LOT,
22:55:56 VACANT LOT, CITY LOT, ON THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING
22:55:59 PROPERTY.
22:56:00 THE FACT THAT IT'S LIGHT MANUFACTURING, AND I AM NOT
22:56:04 SEEING ANY EXTERNAL MANUFACTURING, DUST, DIRT, YOU KNOW,
22:56:13 IT'S NOT LIKE THE CEMENT PLANT OVER THERE ON 50th AND
22:56:17 THIS SORT OF THINGS, IT SOUNDS LIKE -- WELL, FOOD.
22:56:20 IT'S GOING TO BE A CLEAN PROCESS, 6 PARKING SPACES,
22:56:25 RELATIVELY SMALL BUILDING, AND HOPEFULLY A HANDFUL OF
22:56:29 HALF DOZEN JOBS.
22:56:33 LEGAL STAFF HAS INDICATED YOU CAN'T GET INTO WHO GETS
22:56:39 THOSE JOBS.
22:56:40 THAT'S IN THE PURVIEW OF ZONING.
22:56:42 BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT MIGHT BE
22:56:46 POSITIVE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:56:50 I WILL AGREE AND VOTE WITH THE MOTION TO APPROVE FOR
22:56:54 TODAY, BUT HOLD MY JUDGMENT IF SOMETHING COMES OUT AT
22:57:01 SECOND READING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A LOT OF
22:57:03 NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN THAT'S LEGITIMATE, THEN WE CAN
22:57:07 REEVALUATE IT.
22:57:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
22:57:10 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
22:57:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM NOTE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE MOTION
22:57:17 TODAY.
22:57:17 WE'LL SEE HOW SECOND READING GOES.
22:57:20 THE AREA DOES HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES ON IT, AND WE WANT
22:57:24 SOME GOOD BUSINESSES THAT BRING SOME GOOD JOBS.
22:57:26 BUT LOOKING AT THE -- HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A FEW JOBS OUT
22:57:35 OF IT.
22:57:36 BUT I WON'T DO IT TODAY BUT I AM GOING TO RESERVE FOR
22:57:41 SECOND READING UNTIL WE SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS.
22:57:45 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
22:57:46 YES, SIR.
22:57:49 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M IN THE SAME POSITION.
22:57:50 THE COMMUNITY FOLKS WHO SPOKE SAID THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
22:57:54 BRING MORE FOLKS NEXT TIME AND WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S
22:57:57 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
22:58:01 I MAY CHANGE MY MANED AT SECOND READ BEING BUT RIGHT NOW
22:58:04 JUST TO LET EVERYBODY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF
22:58:07 EVALUATING AND GETTING FEEDBACKS, I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR
22:58:09 IT.
22:58:09 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
22:58:11 AND I WOULD SAY I DOUBLE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID HERE
22:58:17 THAT THIS APPEARS TO BE A GOOD PROJECT, IT APPEARS TO BE
22:58:20 CONSISTENT, ET CETERA, IT APPEARS TO BE SOMETHING THAT
22:58:22 WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE IS SOME
22:58:26 MATTERS OF DIPLOMACY THAT HAVE GOT TO BE TAKEN CARE OF,
22:58:29 THAT MAY NOT BE LEGALLY BINDING ON US, BUT GOOD CITIZENS
22:58:36 AS I THINK WE ALL AGREE.
22:58:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROCEDURALLY HOW OUT WANT TO DO IT, DO
22:58:41 WE HAVE ANY PRECEDENT FOR DOING SECOND READING AT NIGHT
22:58:46 SO IF THOSE FOLKS WORK DURING THE DAY, AND HAVE AN
22:58:51 OPPORTUNITY AT NIGHT.
22:58:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT UNLESS THERE'S
22:58:55 A LEGAL REASON TO OPPOSE THAT.
22:58:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WANT TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS
22:59:00 POSSIBLE.
22:59:01 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I AGREE 100%.
22:59:04 SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRUS, A SECOND BY
22:59:10 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
22:59:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:59:12 ANY OPPOSED?
22:59:13 THEN SECOND READING WILL BE WHAT?
22:59:16 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED --
22:59:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SECOND READING WOULD NORMALLY BE
22:59:21 OTHERWISE.
22:59:21 >> THE SECOND READING WOULD BE ON JANUARY 9th AT 9:30
22:59:24 A.M.
22:59:26 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
22:59:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU HAVE A NIGHT MEETING --
22:59:32 >>THE CLERK: JANUARY 16th IS THE NEXT NIGHT MEETING.
22:59:36 >> ISN'T THAT A PRETTY ROBUST NIGHT OR AM I WRONG?
22:59:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE]
22:59:43 >>LUIS VIERA: SO WE ARE STILL FINE?
22:59:44 OKAY.
22:59:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT
22:59:52 WITH REGARDS TO THAT DATE.
22:59:55 >> JANUARY 16th IS FINE AT 6:00 P.M.
22:59:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AFTER GETTING
23:00:02 THROUGH THE TAMPA PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS SCHEDULED AT
23:00:07 5:00.
23:00:09 THAT WOULD BE FIRST ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT NIGHT.
23:00:12 ANYTIME AFTER 6:00.
23:00:13 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: OKAY.
23:00:16 >>LUIS VIERA: BARRING ANY OTHER ITEM THAT WAS ALREADY
23:00:19 FIRST FOR OTHER REASONS, IT WILL BE FIRST.
23:00:24 YES, SIR?
23:00:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE ACCORDINGLY.
23:00:27 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:00:29 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
23:00:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:00:32 ANY OPPOSED?
23:00:33 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY MAKING
23:00:37 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON JANUARY 16th AT 6:00
23:00:41 P.M.
23:00:44 FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
23:00:44 >>PATRICIA ORTIZ: THANK YOU.
23:00:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNSEL, BEFORE WE GO, I JUST WANT TO
23:00:52 REMIND COUNCIL OF THE OBLIGATIONS PLACED UPON EACH OF YOU
23:00:56 WITH REGARD TO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS DURING THIS
23:01:00 HEARING.
23:01:04 THEY MAY ATTEMPT TO CONTACTED EACH OF YOU, AS COUNCILMAN
23:01:08 DINGFELDER SAID EARLIER, THIS BEING A QUASI-JUDICIAL
23:01:10 MATTER, IT'S TREATED DIFFERENTLY, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN
23:01:14 OBLIGATIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO DISCLOSE IF THEY
23:01:18 HAVE HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS PRIOR TO THE START OF
23:01:20 THE HEARING.
23:01:21 OTHERWISE, THE COURTS PRESUME THAT THERE'S PREJUDICE THAT
23:01:25 COULD UNDERLINE YOUR DECISION.
23:01:27 SO I JUST REMIND YOU OF THE OBLIGATION.
23:01:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
23:01:31 WE MOVE TO OUR SECOND TO THE LAST ITEM, NUMBER 9.
23:01:33 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 9 IS REZ 19-84.
23:01:38 IT'S PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10901 MALCOLM MCKINLEY DRIVE
23:01:44 FROM IH TO PD HOSPITAL, CLINIC, HOTEL AND MOTEL.
23:01:48 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
23:01:54 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
23:01:56 THIS NEXT CASE MOVES US UP TO THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING
23:02:00 DISTRICT, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED
23:02:04 WITHIN THE DESIGNATED TAMPA GREEN TECH CORRIDOR.
23:02:09 THE SUBJECT SITE BASED ON THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FUTURE
23:02:13 LAND USE DESIGNATION CAN SEEK UP TO 1,287,000 SQUARE
23:02:21 FEET.
23:02:21 ALSO, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY
23:02:25 POLICY DIRECTION WITHIN THE GREEN TECH CORRIDOR ALLOWS
23:02:29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO ALSO BE CONSIDERED ON THE SITE IF
23:02:33 MEETING THOSE POLICIES.
23:02:34 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE
23:02:37 ALONG MALCOLM MCKINLEY DRIVE, CONNECTING THE SUBJECT SITE
23:02:43 TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE UNIVERSITY AREA TRANSIT CENTER.
23:02:47 THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS THE GRECO SOFTBALL
23:02:51 COMPLEX LOCATED 1.25 MILES TO THE EAST.
23:02:55 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION
23:02:57 ZONE.
23:03:00 THIS KIND OF BLUE SHADING -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE
23:03:04 THAT.
23:03:05 THAT IS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE GREEN TECH CORRIDOR.
23:03:08 RIGHT THERE.
23:03:09 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
23:03:14 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE. THIS IS MCKINLEY.
23:03:18 BOUGAINVILLEA IS TO THE SOUTH.
23:03:21 THE AREA HAS ACTUALLY A MIXTURE OF USES.
23:03:26 TO THE SOUTH AND NORTH IS ACTUALLY THE PAVILIONS
23:03:30 APARTMENTS.
23:03:32 I'M SORRY, THE PROVINCE APARTMENTS.
23:03:35 THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST IS THE LODGE AT LAKE CREST.
23:03:41 THIS IS THE EXISTING CAMPUS.
23:03:44 THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND THE HOSPITAL ACROSS MCKINLEY
23:03:49 DRIVE.
23:03:50 THERE'S SOME LIGHT MANUFACTURING USES AND OFFICE USES
23:03:54 SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.
23:03:55 THIS IS ACTUALLY FDOT OFFICES TO THE NORTH.
23:04:02 AND OFF TO THE SOUTH IS ADVENTURE ISLAND.
23:04:05 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
23:04:12 THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE BLACK COLOR, THAT IS THE HEAVY
23:04:16 INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
23:04:19 THE PINK SCATTERED THROUGHOUT HAS BEEN PLAN AMENDMENTS IN
23:04:22 THE PAST, COMMUNITY MIXED USE 5 TO ALLOW FOR THOSE
23:04:27 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO OCCUR.
23:04:30 AND THEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED IS LOCATED EAST OF
23:04:36 46th STREET.
23:04:41 THE SUBJECT SITE AGAIN IS LOCATED WITHIN A GREEN TECH
23:04:44 CORRIDOR.
23:04:44 THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF THE GREEN TECH CORRIDOR IS TO
23:04:47 CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ATTRACT,
23:04:49 RETAIN AND CULTIVATE HIGH QUALITY JOBS FOR THE CITIZENS
23:04:52 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
23:04:54 THE TARGETED INDUSTRIES ARE OUTLINED IN THE REPORT.
23:04:59 THOSE DIRECTLY FROM THE COMP PLAN.
23:05:01 STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS AND THE SITE PLAN FURTHERS THE
23:05:05 POLICY DIRECTION RELATE IT TO THE TAMPA GREEN TECH
23:05:08 CORRIDOR.
23:05:09 THOSE ARE LAND USE POLICIES 8.12.4 AND 8.9.3.
23:05:15 OVERALL THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN PROPERLY ADDRESSES THE
23:05:18 MALCOLM MCKINLEY CORRIDOR REPLY PLACING THE LANDSCAPE
23:05:24 TOWARD THE ROADWAY AND TOWARD STRUCTURES OR TOWARD THE
23:05:29 REAR OF THE SITE, PROVIDES FOR CIRCULATION PLANS,
23:05:32 CONNECTING ALL MAJOR STRUCTURES, AND WITH A SIDEWALK
23:05:34 ALONG MALCOLM McKINICALLY DRIVE.
23:05:37 FINALLY THE SITE PLAN DOES PROVIDE FOR MIXTURE OF USES AS
23:05:40 A CLINIC AND HOTEL COMPONENT, LODGING, WHICH IS
23:05:44 ENCOURAGED IN NEW EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
23:05:46 SO OVERALL THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS COMPARABLE AND
23:05:49 COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING USES IN THE SURROUNDING
23:05:52 AREA, AND IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT
23:05:56 PATTERN AND VISION -- ENVISIONED UNDER THE TAMPA GREEN
23:06:00 TECH CORRIDOR.
23:06:01 BASED ON THAT, STAFF FINDS THE REZONING REQUEST
23:06:04 CONSISTENT WITH THE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:06:13 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:06:20 COORDINATION.
23:06:21 AGAIN, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
23:06:24 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A HOSPITAL USE, IN THIS CASE
23:06:27 SPECIFICALLY MOFFITT.
23:06:30 AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED CLINIC USE AND HOTEL-MOTEL.
23:06:34 THE MOTEL HOTEL-MOTEL USES AND THE APPLICANT CAN DISCUSS
23:06:40 IN MORE DETAIL IS A CONCEPT FOR EXTENDED STAY FOR FAMILY
23:06:49 AND PATIENTS OF THE FACILITY.
23:06:50 THEY ARE PROPOSING ONE MAIN DRIVEWAY CUT ONTO MALCOLM
23:06:59 McKINLEY, TWO WAY CUTS IN THE NORTH.
23:07:02 SEVERAL BUILDINGS WITH PARKING GARAGES, AND THEN SOME
23:07:06 FUTURE POTENTIAL SURFACE PARKING LOT THERE.
23:07:09 REQUESTING A LITTLE UNDER 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF
23:07:13 ENTITLEMENT, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THEIR ALLOWABLE F.A.R.
23:07:19 1.35 FLOOR AREA RATIO.
23:07:22 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH WITH
23:07:25 CONDOMINIUMS OR APARTMENT BUILDINGS AS WELL AS ACROSS THE
23:07:29 STREET IS THE OTHER LAND DEVELOPMENT FROM THE EXISTING
23:07:32 FACILITY FROM THE MOFFITT CANCER CENTER.
23:07:35 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE 10 FEET TO THE NORTH, EAST,
23:07:41 WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 2370 FEET.
23:07:47 THE ANTICIPATED REQUIRED NUMBER OF MIXED USES, REQUIRED
23:07:52 PARKING AT 519 AND THEY ARE PROPOSING AT LEAST 1400
23:07:57 PARKING SPACES.
23:07:58 I WAS JUST NOTIFIED TONIGHT AT A MEETING THAT THEY
23:08:03 REQUESTED REMOVAL OF THE FIRST WAIVER TO ALLOW THE
23:08:05 REDUCTION OF THE PARKING OF 17%.
23:08:08 SO BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING I AM NOTING FOR THE
23:08:11 RECORD THAT WAIVER NUMBER 1, AGAIN THE WAIVERS TO REDUCE
23:08:15 THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 17% WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE
23:08:18 PLAN.
23:08:20 BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT, TRANSPORTATION STAFF FOUND IT
23:08:25 INCONSISTENT BASED ON THE PARKING WAIVER.
23:08:28 NOW THAT THE PARKING WAIVER HAS BEEN ELIMINATED,
23:08:31 TRANSPORTATION WILL REMOVE THEIR INCONSISTENCY.
23:08:36 THE OTHER WAIVERS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING, THEY ARE
23:08:38 ASKING TO REDUCE -- REMOVE OR RETAIN ONLY 31% OF THE
23:08:43 TREES ON-SITE AS OPPOSED TO 50%.
23:08:46 AND THEY ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED BUFFER FROM 10
23:08:50 FEET TO 8.
23:08:53 ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE FOR HOSPITAL USE AND CLINIC
23:08:57 USE UP AGAINST APARTMENT BUILDINGS, WITH PAYMENT IN LIEU
23:09:02 AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING, AND THEN THEY ARE ASKING FOR
23:09:05 TWO SMALL PARKING -- I'M SORRY, WAIVERS TO INCREASE THE
23:09:10 NOW ALLOWABLE FREE-STANDING SIGNS FROM 2 TO 3 ON THE
23:09:14 RIGHT-OF-WAY AND TO INCREASE SURFACE SQUARE FOOTAGE AREA
23:09:19 FROM 50 PER SIGN TO 150 FEET PER SIGN BASE.
23:09:24 THERE ARE SOME CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
23:09:26 FROM PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
23:09:29 YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE 2 OF THE STAFF REPORT, AGAIN
23:09:31 CLARIFICATION THAT TRANSPORTATION DOES NOT HAVE ANY
23:09:35 CHANGES, THAT THEY ARE REMOVING THEIR INCONSISTENCY, AND
23:09:38 THEN NATURAL RESOURCES JUST HAS SOME MODIFICATIONS
23:09:41 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING BUT THEY ALSO FOUND IT
23:09:45 CONSISTENT.
23:09:45 SO OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF FINDS IT
23:09:50 CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE SECTION OF THE LAND
23:09:52 DEVELOPMENT REREGULATIONS.
23:09:54 SHOULD IT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS PLEASE
23:09:57 REMEMBER THAT THERE IS A MODIFICATION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST
23:09:59 AND SECOND READING.
23:10:00 ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
23:10:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
23:10:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] I UNDERSTAND THE THIRD
23:10:11 WAIVER IS BEING TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE IT SAYS TWO PARKING
23:10:14 GARAGES, POTENTIAL SURFACE AREA.
23:10:17 BUT I ALSO SEE FUTURE FIRE ACCESS.
23:10:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IF THEY UPGRADE ACROSS MALCOLM
23:10:34 MCKINLEY --
23:10:36 >> FUTURE PLANS [OFF MICROPHONE] [RUSTLING PAPERS]
23:10:41 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, SIR.
23:10:42 I UNDERSTAND.
23:10:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST INFORMATION.
23:10:46 THANK YOU.
23:10:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
23:10:47 ANYTHING ELSE?
23:10:48 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:10:49 APPLICANT, PLEAS.
23:10:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS JUST CURIOUS --
23:11:05 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY OPPOSITION.
23:11:07 JOHN GRANDOFF, SUITE HUNDRED BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA,
23:11:12 JOINED THIS EVENING BY THE DIRECTOR OF DESIGN AND
23:11:14 CONSTRUCTION FOR MOFFITT CANCER CENTER.
23:11:16 MR. SCOTT NOLAN, OUR PROJECT MANAGER WITH HAINES.
23:11:22 NICOLE LYNN AND BEN RYAN OF ARDUR, A CIVIL ENGINEERS.
23:11:28 STEVE HENRY, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER.
23:11:29 LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NEIL CORBETT OF CHR ARCHITECT, AND
23:11:35 MOFFITT CANCER CENTER THIS EVENING.
23:11:37 WE HAVE NO QUESTION WITH MS. SAMANIEGO'S SUMMARY, NOR
23:11:46 DAVID HEY'S SUMMARY, CONCLUSION TO YOU AND
23:11:50 RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:11:53 MOFFITT OWNS THIS PROPERTY.
23:11:55 THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
23:11:57 IT WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND EVENTUALLY WILL BE BACK TO YOU
23:12:01 TO APPROVE A LINK OVER MCKINLEY DRIVE TO TIE IN REQUEST
23:12:05 THE WESTERN CAMPUS THAT THEY HAVE.
23:12:07 THIS WILL BE A STATE-OF-THE-ART MEDICAL CENTER.
23:12:11 WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
23:12:12 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
23:12:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
23:12:16 ANY QUESTIONS?
23:12:17 I HAVE ONE, MR. GRANDOFF, AND THIS HAS NO BEARING
23:12:21 WHATSOEVER ON MY DECISION TONIGHT.
23:12:23 BUT WE HAVE HERE THE TERRACE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD
23:12:25 ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAS KIND OF GOTTEN OFF THE GROUND, AND
23:12:28 THEY ARE DOING GREAT.
23:12:29 THEY ARE USED TO GETTING 40, 50 PEOPLE AT THEIR MEETINGS
23:12:33 A MONTH.
23:12:34 I CAN'T BE IN CONTACT WITH THEM ON THIS.
23:12:36 HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM ON THIS?
23:12:38 OBVIOUSLY YOU SEND OUT YOUR NOTICE, ET CETERA.
23:12:40 BUT HAVE YOU TOLD THEM IN TERMS OF --
23:12:44 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: NO, WE DID NOT INDEPENDENTLY CONTACT
23:12:48 THEM.
23:12:48 WE PROVIDED NOTICE.
23:12:52 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I ASK THAT YOU DO THAT.
23:12:55 >> GLAD TO.
23:12:59 >>LUIS VIERA: LESEM RAMOS.
23:13:04 R-A-M-O-S.
23:13:05 I'M TIRED.
23:13:06 JUST A NICE GENTLEMAN TO TALK TO JUST TO LET THE
23:13:10 COMMUNITY KNOW AND WHATNOT.
23:13:14 HIS FIRST NAME LESEM.
23:13:18 RAMOS.
23:13:18 >> AND HE'S WITH TERRACE PARK?
23:13:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
23:13:22 AND IF YOU NEED TO CALL MY OFFICE TO GET HIS INFORMATION.
23:13:26 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: YOU WANT ME TO TALK TO HIM AND REPORT
23:13:28 TO YOU AT THE SECOND MEETING.
23:13:30 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU DON'T MIND.
23:13:31 JUST AS A COURTESY.
23:13:37 EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T CONTACT THEM OBVIOUSLY.
23:13:39 >> WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
23:13:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
23:13:42 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
23:13:44 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
23:13:47 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
23:13:53 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CLOSE, SECOND BY
23:13:55 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
23:13:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:13:57 ANY OPPOSED?
23:14:02 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
23:14:06 OKAY, GO FOR IT.
23:14:11 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE RES 19-84,
23:14:14 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
23:14:16 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
23:14:18 GENERAL VICINITY OF 10901 MALCOLM MCKINLEY DRIVE IN THE
23:14:24 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
23:14:25 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IH
23:14:29 INDUSTRIAL HEAVY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, HOSPITAL,
23:14:31 CLINIC, HOTEL-MOTEL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
23:14:33 >> SECOND.
23:14:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO HAVE THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THE
23:14:41 DESCRIPTION.
23:14:47 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEY SUBMITTED THE SUFFICIENT
23:14:50 EVIDENCE.
23:15:00 >> AND THE STATUTE IN REGARD TO INCONSISTENT WITH THE
23:15:05 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WANT TO
23:15:09 REFERENCE THE FINDING OR COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
23:15:16 >>BILL CARLSON: ADOPTING WHAT HE JUST SAID.
23:15:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD BE BETTER IF COUNCIL DID IT.
23:15:21 I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE.
23:15:22 THE OTHER THING IS --
23:15:25 >>BILL CARLSON: AND INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
23:15:27 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY CARLSON, SECONDED BY MIRANDA.
23:15:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:15:31 ANY OPPOSED?
23:15:32 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
23:15:34 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON JANUARY 9th,
23:15:36 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
23:15:41 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I GUESS I WOULD DIRECT THIS TO YOUR
23:15:43 CLIENTS ONCE THIS IS FINISHED THAT WHENEVER IT COMES TO
23:15:46 DEMOLITIONS, ET CETERA, TO WORK WITH MY OFFICE FOR
23:15:48 NEIGHBORHOODS, ET CETERA, JUST TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S
23:15:51 AN ISSUE.
23:15:51 BUT WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT LATER.
23:15:53 BUT IF YOU WOULD CONTACT MR. RAMOS, I WOULD APPRECIATE
23:15:57 THAT.
23:15:57 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: ONCE DEMOLITION IS COMMENCED?
23:16:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
23:16:05 AND WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT IF IT PASSES MUSTER FOR SECOND
23:16:08 READING.
23:16:10 THANK YOU.
23:16:12 OH, OUR LAST ITEM IS NUMBER 14.
23:16:17 14.
23:16:17 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 14 IS REZ 19-101, THE
23:16:24 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4600 WEST CYPRESS AVENUE FROM OFFICE
23:16:29 PROFESSIONAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE,
23:16:34 BANK, DRIVE-IN, RESTAURANT, COLLEGE AND SCHOOL, STRIP
23:16:38 SHOPPING CENTER WITH ALL CG USES, RECREATIONAL FACILITY,
23:16:42 COMMERCIAL INDOOR, HOTEL AND MOTEL, AND PRINCIPAL
23:16:45 PARKING.
23:16:46 >>DAVID HEY: ONE LAST TIME.
23:16:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THE SLOWER YOU SPEAK, THE HAPPIER WE ARE.
23:16:49 I'M JOKING.
23:16:58 >> I'VE GOT TO SAY IT. THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
23:17:00 TOLD ME TO SAY IT EVERY TIME.
23:17:01 WE ARE IN WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS LAST CASE.
23:17:04 MORE SPECIFICALLY, IT'S ALSO IN THE BUSINESS CENTER.
23:17:09 THERE ARE PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WITHIN
23:17:11 PROXIMITY, THE CHARLES WILLIAMS PARK, LORETTA INGRAHAM
23:17:14 PARK, CYPRESS POINT PARK.
23:17:16 THERE IS TRANSIT, HART ROUTE 30 SERVES WESTSHORE, AND THE
23:17:20 SUBJECT SITE IS IN EVACUATION ZONE B.
23:17:27 HERE IS THE AERIAL.
23:17:28 THE SUBJECT SITE. THIS IS CYPRESS.
23:17:30 WEST SHORE.
23:17:31 OF COURSE, THE PARCEL BACKS UP TO THE I-275 CORRIDOR.
23:17:36 THIS IS THE DOUBLETREE HOTEL.
23:17:39 YOU HAVE GOT THE JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
23:17:44 AND WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE MARRIOTT.
23:17:46 IT'S A VERY HIGH INTENSE USE.
23:17:48 YOU DON'T GET REALLY INTO RESIDENTIAL UNLESS YOU ARE
23:17:53 SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE, EAST OF TRASK OR EAST OF
23:17:59 MANHATTAN.
23:18:01 ONTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
23:18:04 THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS PURPLE COLOR IS ALL THAT REGIONAL
23:18:07 MIXED USE 100.
23:18:09 THE BLUE REPRESENTS THE PUBLIC QUASI-PUBLIC.
23:18:12 THAT'S JEFFERSON.
23:18:14 AS YOU MOVE WEST, OF OCCIDENTAL, THAT'S THE MAP.
23:18:19 YOU START GETTING INTO THE FLIGHT PATH OF TIA.
23:18:23 THEN AGAIN THE RESIDENTIAL.
23:18:24 YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL 10 AND THE RESIDENTIAL 20 AND
23:18:29 35 REPRESENTED BY THE DIFFERENT SHADES OF BROWN.
23:18:36 THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 CATEGORY, IT IS THE MOST
23:18:40 INTENSIVE CATEGORIES OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
23:18:44 THE SITE IS WITHIN ONE BLOCK OF WESTSHORE, WHICH IS A
23:18:46 TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
23:18:50 IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE 8.75-ACRE PARCEL TO THE EAST
23:18:55 OF THE SITE, THE OWNERSHIP OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
23:18:58 TRANSPORTATION.
23:19:00 THAT'S THE DOUBLETREE RESTAURANT OCCUPIES THAT SITE.
23:19:05 THAT IS IDENTIFIED AS THE FUTURE WESTSHORE INTERMODAL
23:19:10 STATION.
23:19:13 AGAIN, IT'S WITHIN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT.
23:19:15 THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL OF THE POLICIES
23:19:18 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO MIXED USE
23:19:21 DEVELOPMENT AND URBAN DESIGN IN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS
23:19:24 DISTRICT.
23:19:25 IT'S PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
23:19:27 PARKING IS IN A STRUCTURE.
23:19:33 SO IN CONCLUSION THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY OF THE
23:19:35 POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO THE
23:19:38 CITY'S PLANNING STRATEGY, URBAN DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:19:40 AND MIXED USE CORRIDORS.
23:19:42 AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
23:19:45 ANTICIPATED UNDER THAT REGIONAL MIXED USE 100.
23:19:49 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
23:19:52 FIND THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040
23:19:56 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:19:59 THANK YOU.
23:19:59 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:20:04 COORDINATION.
23:20:04 AGAIN, THIS IS THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MIXED USE
23:20:07 PROJECT.
23:20:08 LOCATED ON CYPRESS STREET, AND A SMALL PART OF IT IS
23:20:12 ACROSS THE STREET ON RENELLI.
23:20:15 THE MAIN SITE WITH BUILDINGS IN THE PRINCIPAL USE OF THIS
23:20:20 BUILDING WITH A PARKING GARAGE AND THEN A SMALL SURFACE
23:20:23 PARKING GARAGE ACROSS RENELLI DRIVE AND CYPRESS STREET.
23:20:29 THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONES OFFICE PROFESSIONAL 1.
23:20:32 THEY ARE ASKING FOR ENTITLEMENT FOR 270,000 SQUARE FEET.
23:20:37 THE PROPERTY IS A LITTLE OVER 2.8 ACRES AND IT'S
23:20:40 CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY OFFICE AND BANK USE WITH A
23:20:45 DRIVE-IN.
23:20:45 SPECIFICALLY THE PROPOSAL IS TO DEMOLISH THE 54,000
23:20:49 SQUARE NOT A BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED DRIVE-IN FACILITY
23:20:53 AND DEVELOP THE TWO NEW BUILDINGS, AGAIN WITH A PARKING
23:20:56 GARAGE.
23:21:00 THE OVERALL SETBACKS FOR THE NORTH AND SOUTH BUILDINGS
23:21:03 ARE 10 FEET MINIMUM, 20 FEET MAXIMUM, SOUTH AND WEST 5
23:21:09 FEET AND TO THE WEST 30 FEET AND THEN SEPARATE SETBACKS
23:21:12 FOR THE ENERGY PLANT.
23:21:14 THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE WEST SHOWS OVERLAY DISTRICT
23:21:19 AND HAS BEEN REVIEWED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE
23:21:23 PROVISIONS.
23:21:24 THE APPLICANT WILL GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF
23:21:27 THE PROPOSAL.
23:21:29 A TOTAL OF 1092 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
23:21:35 THEY ARE PROPOSING 926 FOR A 10% PARKING REDUCTION.
23:21:37 BECAUSE OF THE 10% PARKING REDUCTION TRANSPORTATION DID
23:21:41 FIND THIS APPLICATION INCONSISTENT, AND YOU CAN FIND
23:21:44 REFERENCE TO THE WAIVER NUMBER 2 ON THE STAFF REPORT.
23:21:51 OF THE WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED, PER THE CODE, YOU ARE
23:21:54 ALLOWED TO REMOVE UP TO 75% OF THE TREES OUTSIDE.
23:22:04 THEY ARE ASKING TO REMOVE 89%.
23:22:06 SO THAT IS A WAIVER THAT IS BEING REQUESTED.
23:22:10 HOWEVER, NATURAL RESOURCES DID NOT OBJECT TO THAT BECAUSE
23:22:13 OF THE SITE, AND STORMWATER AND FLOODING REGULATIONS, A
23:22:20 CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF FILL IS REQUIRED TO BE PUT ON-SITE
23:22:22 UP TO THREE FEET.
23:22:24 BECAUSE OF ALL THAT BUILDING PLACED ON-SITE, MOST OF THE
23:22:26 EXISTING TREES ARE EFFECTIVELY REMOVED.
23:22:33 THEY ARE ASKING FOR MANEUVERING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR
23:22:36 RENELLI.
23:22:37 FOR DELIVERY DRIVERS AGAIN BECAUSE PART OF THE SITE IS
23:22:39 ACROSS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
23:22:42 THERE WILL BE SO MANY LANES BETWEEN THE TWO PORTIONS OF
23:22:44 THE SINGULAR USE ACROSS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SO THERE'S
23:22:49 MANEUVERING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, REQUEST FOR DELIVERIES
23:22:52 AS WELL, SOLID WASTE PROVISIONS.
23:22:54 THEY ARE ASKING SPECIFICALLY FOR REMOVAL, THERE ARE
23:23:04 COMMENTS FROM NATURAL RESOURCES REGARDING THIS IN THE
23:23:07 STAFF REPORT.
23:23:08 AND THEN THE FINAL WAIVER THAT THEY ARE ASKING THE
23:23:12 27-284.4 IS TO PAY TO THE TREE TRUST FUND FOR ANY
23:23:17 MITIGATION OF REQUIRED TREES THAT CANNOT BE PLANTED
23:23:20 ON-SITE.
23:23:21 SAYING THAT, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND
23:23:23 SECOND READING BUT OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND COMPLIANCE
23:23:26 STAFF DID FIND THIS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND
23:23:28 DEVELOPMENT CODE BASED PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE PARKING
23:23:31 WAIVER THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION.
23:23:36 IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS, PLEASE
23:23:40 REMEMBER THERE IS A REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND
23:23:43 SECOND READING.
23:23:55 >>DAVID MECHANIK: 305 SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
23:23:58 I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF HIGHWOODS PROPERTY.
23:24:03 WITH ME THIS EVENING IS DAN WOODWARD, VICE PRESIDENT OF
23:24:07 HIGHWOODS TAMPA, AND CHASE COLLIER, MANAGER OF
23:24:10 ACQUISITIONS AND DISPOSITIONS FOR HIGHWOODS.
23:24:15 AND RANDY COEN OF COEN AND COMPANY.
23:24:18 WE ARE VERY LATE IN THE EVENING.
23:24:20 I WILL TRY AND MAKE THIS BRIEF, AND OF COURSE BE HAPPY TO
23:24:24 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
23:24:27 WE FULLY AGREE WITH THE REPORT.
23:24:29 THE REPORT WAS VERY THOROUGH.
23:24:31 WE WILL MAKE ALL THE REQUESTED REVISIONS AS INDICATED IN
23:24:36 THOSE REVISION SHEETS.
23:24:39 I WOULD JUST REMAINED COUNCIL, WE ARE IN THE WESTSHORE
23:24:44 BUSINESS DISTRICT WHICH IS THE LARGEST OFFICE DISTRICT IN
23:24:47 THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
23:24:50 THE REGIONAL MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY IS THE MOST
23:24:54 INTENSE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN
23:24:57 AREA.
23:25:01 AS MARY MENTIONED, THE NECESSITY FOR THE WAIVERS
23:25:04 CONCERNING THE TREES THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PHYSICAL
23:25:08 MINIMUM FLOOD ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE TO MEET IN
23:25:12 ORDER TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
23:25:14 AND THIS IS TRULY A MIXED USE PROJECT.
23:25:19 THE 10% WAIVER FOR PARKING IS RATHER MODEST AND IS
23:25:23 JUSTIFIED BASED UPON SHARED USE WITH THE MIX OF USES,
23:25:28 WHICH IS A VERY TYPICAL REDUCTION THAT COUNCIL OFTEN
23:25:34 APPROVES IN THESE SITUATIONS.
23:25:36 WITH THAT, I WILL STAND DOWN AND JUST SOLICIT ANY
23:25:41 QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
23:25:42 THANK YOU.
23:25:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MECHANIK AND ALL OF
23:25:50 YOUR TEAM FOR BEING PATIENT WAITING THIS LATE IN THE
23:25:52 EVENINGS.
23:25:54 MY ONLY QUESTION IS THIS.
23:25:55 IT APPEARS THE BUILDING IS SORT OF BEING ULTIMATELY WILL
23:25:58 BE BUILT SORT OF ON SPEC AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LOT OF
23:26:05 POTENTIAL USES AND YOU DON'T NOTICE WHAT'S GOING IN.
23:26:07 I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT.
23:26:09 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION TO
23:26:11 YOU, MR. MECHANIK, AND/OR STAFF, IS THIS NOTION OF STRIP
23:26:17 SHOPPING CENTER WITH ALL CD USES.
23:26:20 WHAT'S THE RELEVANCE?
23:26:23 SHOPPING CENTERS AND THIS MODERN FUTURISTIC BUILDING?
23:26:29 >>DAVID MECHANIK: IT'S AN ANOMALY BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY A
23:26:33 DEFINED USE IN THE CITY CODE, AND STRIP SHOPPING CENTER
23:26:36 ALLOWS YOU TO DO A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT
23:26:40 IMAGINE WOULD GO IN A SHOPPING CENTER, ALTHOUGH THIS
23:26:43 OBVIOUSLY IS NOT GOING TO BE A SHOPPING CENTER, BUT IT
23:26:46 ALLOWS A MIXTURE OF PERSONAL SERVICES, YOU KNOW, LIKE A
23:26:50 DANCE STUDIO, OR PHYSICAL FITNESS FACILITY, IT ALLOWS
23:26:56 DIFFERENT KINDS OF RETAIL USES AND RESTAURANTS.
23:27:00 IT'S A CATCH-ALL CATEGORY.
23:27:03 WITH THAT NAME I COULDN'T EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY THEY CHOSE
23:27:06 THAT PARTICULAR NAME.
23:27:07 BUT THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THAT BECAUSE IT'S A CATCH ALL,
23:27:12 SORT OF A VESTIGE FROM AN EARLIER DAY.
23:27:14 >> IN THE OLD DAYS, I GUESS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FORESTER
23:27:18 SHOPPING CENTER.
23:27:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MORE CATCH-ALL.
23:27:24 >>DAVID MECHANIK: EXACTLY.
23:27:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
23:27:26 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
23:27:30 ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MECHANIK?
23:27:33 >>DAVID MECHANIK: NO.
23:27:33 WE APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL.
23:27:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY HERE TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
23:27:39 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
23:27:40 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:27:42 I THINK SECONDED BY EVERYBODY.
23:27:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:27:46 AND WE'LL GIVE IT TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:27:49 ANY OPPOSED?
23:27:50 OKAY.
23:27:51 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU WANT TO THE TAKE THIS ONE,
23:27:53 SIR?
23:27:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
23:28:00 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
23:28:03 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4600 WEST CYPRESS
23:28:06 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
23:28:07 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
23:28:10 CLASSIFICATION OP-1 OFFICE PROFESSIONAL 1, TO PD, PLANNED
23:28:14 DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, BANK, DRIVE
23:28:17 OAT IN RESTAURANT, COLLEGE AND SCHOOL, STRIP SHOPPING
23:28:19 CENTER WITH ALL CG USES, RECREATIONAL FACILITY,
23:28:22 COMMERCIAL INDOOR HOTEL AND MOTEL AND PRINCIPAL PARKING,
23:28:26 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND INCLUDING THE REVISION
23:28:28 SHEET, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS MET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF,
23:28:39 AS PROVIDED COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF THE
23:28:42 DEVELOPMENT AS CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN,
23:28:44 AND WITH THAT REVISION SHEET IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
23:28:46 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE.
23:28:48 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
23:28:51 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:28:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:28:54 ANY OPPOSED?
23:28:55 >> CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
23:28:59 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON JANUARY 9th,
23:29:01 2020, AT 9:30 A.M.
23:29:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
23:29:04 >> I BELIEVE OTHER THAN THE AAA BUILDING THIS IS THE
23:29:11 LARGEST BUILDING THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST 40 YEARS?
23:29:15 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I WAS REFERRING TO WESTSHORE BUSINESS
23:29:16 DISTRICT.
23:29:17 PROBABLY THE LARGEST.
23:29:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN THE LAST 40 YEARS, I THINK.
23:29:23 >> PROBABLY SO.
23:29:23 IT WAS PREVIOUSLY ABOUT 240,000 TO GO BELOW THE DRI
23:29:29 THRESHOLD.
23:29:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY.
23:29:34 STAFF, REPORTS, ET CETERA, MOTIONS.
23:29:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND MR. HEY, I
23:29:46 WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IN THE MARCH 26th
23:29:50 COUNCIL WORKSHOP AT 9:30 A.M., WHICH APPEARS TO BE OPEN,
23:29:56 THAT WE WOULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT URBAN
23:30:02 VILLAGES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND OUR OWN
23:30:07 PLANNING STAFF.
23:30:08 THIS CONCEPT OF URBAN VILLAGES KIND OF KEEPS POPPING UP
23:30:12 IN TERMS OF AN URBAN VILLAGE IS EVERYWHERE, DAVIS ISLAND,
23:30:22 THEY ARE ALL OVER THE CITY.
23:30:23 AND I WANT A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ON THE
23:30:26 RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT THIS CONCEPT MEANS AND HOW IT
23:30:29 IMPACTS OUR DECISIONS, ET CETERA.
23:30:32 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
23:30:35 A SECOND BY WHOM?
23:30:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS MARCH 26th AT 9:30 A.M.
23:30:44 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED FIRST BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
23:30:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:30:47 ANY OPPOSED?
23:30:50 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
23:30:51 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
23:30:53 GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO FRANK
23:30:53 SINATRA, 104 YEARS OLD.
23:30:53 >> LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL.
23:31:02 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
23:31:05 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:31:07 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
23:31:09 >>BILL CARLSON: WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING SOME KIND
23:31:11 OF COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION SOUTH OF GANDY.
23:31:13 I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME AND I ALSO DON'T
23:31:17 KNOW WHETHER IT WOULD BE A WORKSHOP OR STAFF REPORT.
23:31:20 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP OR SUGGEST WE
23:31:23 SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP FOR DISCUSSION OF A COMPREHENSIVE
23:31:29 VIEW SOUTH OF GANDY TO ADDRESS IN PARTICULAR THE
23:31:32 TRANSPORTATION, FLOODING, AND EVACUATION AND OTHER ISSUES
23:31:38 THERE.
23:31:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARCH 26th, THE SECOND ITEM ON
23:31:44 THERE.
23:31:50 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE ADD IT TO THAT?
23:31:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE]
23:32:00 >>THE CLERK: FOR THE MARCH WORKSHOP, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS
23:32:05 AT 9:00 A.M.
23:32:07 ALL AT 9 A.M.
23:32:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE]
23:32:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH WORKSHOP
23:32:19 ITEM?
23:32:21 >>THE CLERK: CORRECTION.
23:32:22 THE FIRST ITEM IS JUST A PRESENTATION AND COMMENDATION OF
23:32:25 POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH AND THEN THREE WORKSHOPS.
23:32:28 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S FINE.
23:32:29 WE CAN DO THAT.
23:32:30 THAT'S FINE.
23:32:33 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
23:32:39 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WANT TO SALUTE THIS.
23:32:40 I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
23:32:41 THE COMMUNITY IS COMING OUT FOR A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS,
23:32:44 SOMETIMES WE'LL BE WITH THEM, SOMETIMES WE WON'T.
23:32:47 BUT THE LARGER ISSUE THAT'S AN ACUTE CRISIS FOR THEM, SO
23:32:52 MR. CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
23:32:56 SECONDED.
23:32:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:32:58 ANY OPPOSED?
23:32:59 OKAY.
23:32:59 AND IF I MAY FOR ME, I QUICKLY MOTION FOR A REPORT AT THE
23:33:04 JANUARY 23rd, 2020 MEETING, NO PERSONAL APPEARANCE
23:33:09 NECESSARY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON THE STATUS
23:33:11 OF REPAVING NORTH BOULEVARD AND COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE IN
23:33:12 FOREST HILLS.
23:33:14 IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE A YEAR AGO AND IT STILL HASN'T
23:33:16 GOTTEN DONE BECAUSE OF STORMWATER PROBLEMS.
23:33:23 YES, SIR?
23:33:23 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
23:33:29 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST A REPORT.
23:33:38 YOUR MICROPHONE.
23:33:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REPAVING OF THE AREA BETWEEN NEBRASKA,
23:33:45 PLYMOUTH AVENUE, 10th AVENUE, ALTERNATE AREA, THOSE
23:33:49 COMMUNITIES.
23:33:54 I WOULD LIKE TO GET A REPORT.
23:33:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A WRITTEN REPORT?
23:34:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
23:34:02 AND IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEPARATE SECTIONS FOR
23:34:04 EACH OF THOSE, AND WE CAN DO IT AT THE SAME TIME.
23:34:06 NO PROBLEM WITH.
23:34:06 BUT JUST SEPARATE SECTIONS.
23:34:08 OUR CHALLENGE WAS THIS WAS TO BE REPAVED IN JANUARY OF
23:34:12 2019, AND DUE TO STORMWATER PROBLEMS THE COMMUNITIES HAD
23:34:17 TO WAIT, GOSH, ALMOST A YEAR AND COUNTING.
23:34:19 IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
23:34:20 SO THERE YOU GO.
23:34:21 AND I GUESS A SECOND BY -- YOU WANTED TO SECOND IT?
23:34:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, AND THE PALM AVENUE NORTH, NEBRASKA
23:34:30 EAST, 15th STREET, SO WE COVER THAT WHOLE SECTION.
23:34:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN VIERA,
23:34:35 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
23:34:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:34:41 >> AND I HOPE EVERYBODY IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO, THE
23:34:45 FOLLOWING WEEK WE HAVE ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS, THE
23:34:49 MENORAH LIGHTING WHERE I AM ALWAYS SCARED FOR MY LIFE.
23:34:55 IT'S A GREAT EVENT.
23:34:56 BUT THAT IS VERY SCARY.
23:34:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
23:35:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
23:35:05 I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO
23:35:08 COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
23:35:09 THE FIRST ONE BEING A REMINDER TO COUNCIL, IT'S A SPECIAL
23:35:12 DISCUSSION MEETING WHICH MEANS A QUORUM IS NOT NECESSARY,
23:35:15 MONDAY MORNING AT 8:30, TO 12:30 IS THE 4-HOUR ETHICS
23:35:20 TRAINING HERE.
23:35:20 IF YOU ARE HERE, GREAT.
23:35:21 IF YOU ARE NOT, IT'S GOING TO BE RECORDED BY CTTV.
23:35:26 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BROADCAST BUT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE
23:35:29 TO YOU ON STREAMING SO YOU CAN WATCH IT AT YOUR
23:35:32 CONVENIENCE.
23:35:36 THE OTHER THING IS JUST A REMINDER TO COUNCIL, WITH
23:35:39 REGARD TO YOUR DENIAL TONIGHT, PLEASE BE CONSCIOUS OF THE
23:35:42 FACT THAT YOU MAY BE QUESTIONED ABOUT IT.
23:35:44 YOU HAVE A 30-DAY APPEAL PERIOD.
23:35:46 THE PETITIONER HAS THAT...
23:35:51 >> CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION REGARDING THE STUDY
23:35:56 FOR SOUTH TAMPA?
23:35:57 I AM ASSUMING YOU ARE REFERENCING THE SOUTH TAMPA
23:36:00 PLANNING DISTRICT, SOUTH OF GANDY?
23:36:05 SPECIFICALLY SOUTH OF GANDY.
23:36:06 OKAY.
23:36:07 THANK YOU.
23:36:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
23:36:10 >> SECOND.
23:36:11 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
23:36:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE
23:36:18 FRIDAY.
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