TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 23, 2020
9:00 A.M.
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9:01:42AM
9:03:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: -- PLEASE.
9:03:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:03:13AM THIS IS A PROUD DAY FOR ME, COUNCIL.
9:03:15AM I WAS ABLE TO GET MY PASTOR OF MY CHURCH, NEW SALEM
9:03:21AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, TO COME DOWN AND GIVE THE
9:03:24AM INVOCATION TODAY.
9:03:25AM THIS IS A VERY PROUD DAY FOR ME.
9:03:27AM THE REVEREND KALEB BARNUM IS A LICENSED AND ORDAINED
9:03:32AM MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL, DESIRING TO UNITE THE CHURCH WITH
9:03:35AM THE COMMUNITY.
9:03:36AM HE HAS OVER 20 YEARS OF CHURCH MINISTRY EXPERIENCE.
9:03:39AM AND AGAIN, HE IS WITH THE CHURCH THAT I ATTEND, NEW SALEM
9:03:41AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:03:44AM PASTOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.
9:03:49AM ALL RISE OR REMAIN STANDING.
9:03:53AM >> THANK YOU.
9:03:53AM LET US PRAY.
9:03:54AM ETERNAL GOD, OUR FATHER, WE COME RIGHT NOW TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:03:57AM WE THANK YOU FOR THIS HOUR, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND
9:04:00AM DISCUSS THE AFFAIRS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
9:04:02AM LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BIND US TOGETHER WITH CORDS OF
9:04:04AM LOVE, THAT WE BE ABLE TO DO THINGS DECENT, IN ORDER,
9:04:06AM PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT.
9:04:10AM IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
9:04:12AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:04:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
9:04:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
9:04:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
9:04:32AM >> MIRANDA?
9:04:33AM CARLSON?
9:04:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:04:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:04:35AM BEFORE WE BEGIN, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY
9:04:41AM DUE TO A CONFLICT.
9:04:44AM JUST FYI.
9:04:45AM ALSO, BEFORE WE BEGIN, COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANTED TO
9:04:49AM INTRODUCE YOUR INTERN, SIR.
9:04:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
9:04:52AM COUNCIL, WE HAVE LEGISLATIVE AIDES -- COME ON UP HERE -- WE
9:04:56AM HAVE LEGISLATIVE AIDES THAT HELP OUT, BUT WE ALSO GET
9:05:00AM STUDENTS FROM USF.
9:05:01AM GO BULLS.
9:05:03AM TO JOIN US.
9:05:04AM TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS. KATARINA KATIE WHO IS A
9:05:10AM GRADUATE WITH A DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE FROM THE
9:05:13AM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA -- GO BULLS.
9:05:15AM SHE WAS BORN IN MOSCOW, RUSSIA, AND GREW UP IN MIAMI.
9:05:19AM KATIE, THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:05:22AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:22AM IT'S REALLY AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
9:05:23AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:05:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:05:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, WE ALSO HAVE A NEW ADDED
9:05:31AM ADDITION TO THE TEAM.
9:05:33AM WE HAVE MRS. NORA ABDULLAH.
9:05:36AM SHE IS A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
9:05:38AM WE WELCOME HER TO OUR -- [INAUDIBLE]
9:05:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:05:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:05:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOING TO DO IT NEXT TIME.
9:05:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT TIME WE'LL GET YOU, SIR.
9:05:53AM OKAY, LET'S GO TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:05:56AM I WANT TO DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
9:06:00AM ITEMS 67, 70, AND 74.
9:06:17AM THEY ARE BEING CONTINUED.
9:06:19AM 67, I BELIEVE, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT
9:06:23AM CONTINUED, SIR?
9:06:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, THAT'S BEING CONTINUED.
9:06:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU HAVE A DATE OR JUST --
9:06:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THEY CALLED ME AND TOLD ME NEXT
9:06:36AM MONTH, BUT I DIDN'T BRING THAT NOTE.
9:06:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
9:06:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS?
9:06:54AM WE'LL COME BACK TO CONTINUING THOSE WHEN WE GET THERE.
9:06:57AM GIVE YOUR STAFF SOME TIME.
9:06:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE.
9:07:01AM FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE STAFF TO KNOW, MR. CHAIR THAT
9:07:04AM THERE WILL NOT BE ANY STAFF REPORTING AT STAFF REPORTS.
9:07:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:07:08AM ITEMS 67, 70, AND 74 WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE APPROPRIATE
9:07:12AM TIME.
9:07:13AM I WANTED TO INQUIRE ON 63, 64, 65, DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER
9:07:17AM WANT A LIVE APPEARANCE FROM STAFF ON THOSE?
9:07:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONES ON FIRST, COUNCIL'S POLICY,
9:07:27AM BECAUSE OF THE -- [INAUDIBLE] -- STAFF WILL APPEAR.
9:07:34AM OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO NECESSITY TO HAVE STAFF COME UNLESS
9:07:38AM THERE'S COUNCIL DESIRE.
9:07:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY?
9:07:41AM OKAY.
9:07:41AM WE'LL PROCEED THEN JUST WITH VOTING.
9:07:43AM I HAVE LIVE APPEARANCES JUST FOR THE RECORD ON 66, 69, 71,
9:07:49AM 72, AND 76.
9:07:50AM JUST FYI.
9:07:52AM LET'S BEGIN THEN WITH CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND
9:07:56AM PRESENTATIONS.
9:07:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A COUPLE OF MORE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.
9:07:59AM SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, YOU HAVE REQUESTED AND COUNCIL'S
9:08:05AM POLICY, UNTIL THE AGENDA IS OFFICIALLY CHANGED THAT STAFF
9:08:09AM REPORTS UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS WILL BE ADDRESSED BY CITY
9:08:12AM COUNCIL AT A TIME CERTAIN OF 10:30 THIS MORNING.
9:08:15AM SO ANY 10:30 HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THAT TIME WILL BE TAKEN
9:08:19AM AFTER STAFF REPORTS.
9:08:21AM THAT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
9:08:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:08:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FINALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THESE CHANGES
9:08:26AM BEING MADE AND STAFF BEING APPRISED OF THEM, IF THERE COULD
9:08:30AM BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
9:08:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
9:08:34AM >> SO MOVED.
9:08:35AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:08:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE WILL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME SO THAT
9:08:39AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND OTHERS CAN GET REPLACEMENT.
9:08:42AM WE'LL DO THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
9:08:44AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:08:46AM WHO SECONDED THAT?
9:08:48AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:08:49AM ANY IN FAVOR?
9:08:51AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:08:51AM NOW WE MOVE TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS FOR
9:08:54AM APPLICANTS.
9:09:05AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:09:07AM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
9:09:10AM I'M HERE FOR ITEMS 1 THROUGH 5, APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS.
9:09:13AM OUR FIRST ITEM WOULD BE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY
9:09:18AM COMMITTEE.
9:09:19AM WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS AND ONE APPLICANT.
9:09:22AM AND THE APPLICANT IS JENNIFER HALL FOR THE POSITION OF
9:09:29AM RESIDENT.
9:09:29AM IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S NOT HERE.
9:09:34AM WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?
9:09:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL WISH TO TAKE THIS UP?
9:09:39AM WE HAVE A MOTION -- YES, SIR.
9:09:41AM YES, SIR.
9:09:43AM GO AHEAD.
9:09:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO DO THAT, IF WE
9:09:47AM CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION DOING SO, BECAUSE
9:09:51AM I HAVE A RESOLUTION PREPARED IN THE EVENTUALITY OR THE CASE.
9:09:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:10:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:10:03AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:10:05AM ANY IN FAVOR?
9:10:06AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:10:08AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:10:09AM NEXT WE HAVE NUMBER 2.
9:10:13AM THAT IS THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, WHICH WE WILL CONTINUE TO
9:10:17AM FEBRUARY 20th, 2020.
9:10:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:10:20AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT REGARD?
9:10:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.
9:10:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:10:25AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES?
9:10:27AM ANY IN FAVOR?
9:10:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:10:29AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
9:10:30AM THE NEXT ITEM IS THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY
9:10:35AM COUNCIL.
9:10:35AM WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES AND ONE APPLICANT.
9:10:38AM THE APPLICANT IS MR. RALPH SMITH.
9:10:43AM I BELIEVE HE'S HERE.
9:10:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:10:50AM HOW ARE YOU DOING?
9:10:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:10:53AM >> I'M SURE MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW ME.
9:10:55AM I'M RALPH SMITH.
9:10:56AM I'M THE FOUNDER OF COMPUTER MENTORS GROUP.
9:11:00AM I'VE BEEN A CITY RESIDENT SINCE 1993.
9:11:04AM I HAVE SERVED IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES, INCLUDING ON THIS
9:11:07AM PARTICULAR BOARD ASKING TO BE APPROVED FOR TODAY.
9:11:13AM I SERVED A TWO-YEAR STINT ON THIS BOARD AND I'M LOOKING TO
9:11:16AM COME BACK TO TRY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
9:11:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
9:11:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RALPH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EXTENDING
9:11:25AM YOURSELF IN THIS REGARD AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN
9:11:28AM OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS.
9:11:31AM I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT -- I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THIS
9:11:35AM COUNCIL.
9:11:37AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER MEMBERS ARE.
9:11:39AM I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS BODY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR
9:11:44AM ALMOST THE LAST YEAR ABOUT WMBE AND HOW WE NEED TO BEEF IT
9:11:49AM UP AND DO A BETTER JOB.
9:11:51AM I ASSUME THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOES.
9:11:57AM DO YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT?
9:12:00AM >> YES.
9:12:00AM THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF APPLICANTS FOR THIS BOARD --
9:12:04AM THIS COMMISSION.
9:12:05AM THEY ARE APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I THINK EACH OF
9:12:10AM YOU GET TO APPOINT ONE PERSON TO THIS BOARD.
9:12:13AM THERE'S ALSO THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ALSO APPOINTED BY THE
9:12:17AM MAYOR, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I'M APPLYING FOR THIS TIME,
9:12:21AM TO BE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR TO BE ON THE BOARD.
9:12:23AM BUT THE BOARD BASICALLY OVERSEES -- I FORGET THE ACTUAL
9:12:30AM ORDINANCE -- BUT THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS WE'LL TRY
9:12:33AM TO BEEF UP PARTICIPATION IN THE CITY FROM ALL RACES AND
9:12:40AM ETHNICITIES.
9:12:42AM CURRENTLY, I'M REALLY ON TO TRY TO REPRESENT AFRICAN
9:12:47AM AMERICANS.
9:12:48AM AND CURRENTLY, AFRICAN AMERICANS BASICALLY ARE 24% OF OUR
9:12:53AM COMMUNITY, BUT ONLY RECEIVE 2% OF THE CONTRACTS THAT COME
9:12:57AM OUT OF THE CITY, AND THAT INCLUDES PROFESSIONAL SERVICES,
9:13:01AM WHICH CURRENTLY AFRICAN AMERICANS RECEIVE ZERO DOLLARS AND
9:13:06AM CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER THINGS.
9:13:08AM I'M REALLY HERE TO TRY TO ASSIST THE CITY IN EQUALIZING THE
9:13:14AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS.
9:13:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT'S GREAT.
9:13:18AM I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
9:13:19AM I KNOW EVERYBODY UP HERE DOES.
9:13:22AM AND I HOPE THAT NOT ONLY WILL YOU SERVE ON THE BOARD, BUT
9:13:26AM COME BACK AND REPORT BACK TO US PERIODICALLY AND TELL US HOW
9:13:30AM THINGS ARE GOING.
9:13:31AM WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THINGS, AND HOW WE CAN BE MORE
9:13:35AM PROACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY IN THE AFRICAN
9:13:37AM AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO ENCOURAGE AND ASSIST BUSINESSES TO
9:13:42AM COME GET A PIECE OF THE PIE.
9:13:44AM >> I PROMISE TO DO THAT AND EVEN IN THE ORDINANCE, IT
9:13:47AM REQUIRES THAT WE COME BACK ONCE A YEAR AND REPORT TO YOU ON
9:13:50AM THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE.
9:13:57AM HAVEN'T BEEN HERE A WHOLE YEAR YET, BUT THERE IS A
9:14:00AM REQUIREMENT TO COME BACK AND REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL.
9:14:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: I ECHO MY COLLEAGUE'S STATEMENTS THERE.
9:14:07AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND CONTINUE TO
9:14:10AM SERVE THE CITY AS YOU HAVE FOR A LONG TIME.
9:14:12AM PLEASE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE FORMAL REPORTS, PLEASE KEEP US
9:14:16AM UPDATED INDIVIDUALLY.
9:14:18AM AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, I THINK WE UNANIMOUSLY WANT TO TRY TO
9:14:21AM SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING.
9:14:23AM THANK YOU.
9:14:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:14:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:14:26AM WE COUNCIL HAVE KNOWN YOU A LONG TIME.
9:14:29AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:14:32AM THANK YOU FOR JOINING THIS.
9:14:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:14:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
9:14:35AM YES, SIR.
9:14:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES,
9:14:42AM THIS PARTICULAR POSITION IS AN APPOINTMENT BY THE CITY
9:14:44AM COUNCIL, JUST TO CLARIFY.
9:14:46AM I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS FOR YOU PREVIOUSLY, BUT THIS IS
9:14:48AM BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY WITH A RESOLUTION, AS AN ACTION BY CITY
9:14:52AM COUNCIL.
9:14:53AM WHEN COUNCIL IS PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT REGARD, I
9:14:56AM HAVE A RESOLUTION.
9:14:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION?
9:14:59AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SECOND BY
9:15:01AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:15:02AM ANY IN FAVOR?
9:15:05AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:06AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:15:06AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:15:10AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:15:12AM THE NEXT ITEM IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
9:15:15AM WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS.
9:15:17AM ONE APPLICANT, BUT THIS APPLICANT WOULD BE FOR THE
9:15:24AM ALTERNATE.
9:15:24AM WE WOULD ADVERTISE THE OTHER POSITION FOR THE ARCHITECT.
9:15:28AM KERRY ANN KANCH.
9:15:37AM >> HI.
9:15:39AM MY NAME IS KERRY ANN KANCH.
9:15:41AM I'M APPLYING FOR AN APPOINTMENT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
9:15:43AM COMMISSION.
9:15:44AM I'M NEW TO TAMPA.
9:15:46AM I WAS BORN IN KINGSTON, JAMAICA, AND I WAS RAISED IN
9:15:49AM NEW YORK STATE.
9:15:50AM I WENT TO SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY WHERE I RECEIVED MY BACHELOR
9:15:55AM OF FINE ARTS AND INTERIOR DESIGN.
9:15:59AM I HAVE MY ASSOCIATES IN APPLIED SCIENCE FROM ONONDAGA
9:16:02AM COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THAT ONE IS AN INTERIOR DESIGN ALSO.
9:16:06AM I TOOK SOME TIME OFF, AND THEN I WENT TO -- OR I APPLIED TO
9:16:13AM GRADUATE SCHOOL.
9:16:14AM I ATTENDED GRADUATE SCHOOL IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS AND I WENT
9:16:17AM TO THE SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE IN CHICAGO.
9:16:19AM I APPLIED FOR MASTERS PROGRAM IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
9:16:23AM SO MY ASSOCIATES I COMPLETED IN 2004 AND MY BACHELOR'S IN
9:16:28AM 2007.
9:16:28AM I WALKED THE STAGE IN 2013 IN CHICAGO.
9:16:31AM BUT I'M STILL IN THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY COMPLETING MY
9:16:35AM MASTER'S THESIS.
9:16:36AM I RELOCATED TO FLORIDA IN 2013, GAINESVILLE, AND I WORKED
9:16:42AM FOR UF PART-TIME.
9:16:45AM I ALSO SERVED ON THE ALACHUA COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION
9:16:48AM COMMISSION THERE FOR A YEAR WITHIN MY TWO-YEAR TERM BECAUSE
9:16:52AM I RELOCATED TO ST. PETE IN JUNE OF 2016.
9:16:58AM SO I'VE BEEN IN FLORIDA SINCE, AND I JUST RELOCATED TO TAMPA
9:17:02AM ACTUALLY IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.
9:17:05AM I CURRENTLY WORK AS AN INSURANCE LINE PROCESSOR FOR CX
9:17:10AM INSURANCE SERVICES IN ST. PETE.
9:17:12AM WHILE COMPLETING MY THESIS.
9:17:15AM I'M ACTUALLY A BIG PART -- BIG MEMBER OF MY CHURCH AND
9:17:19AM THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT ME TO FLORIDA.
9:17:21AM I CAME TO FLORIDA TO HELP THEM START CHURCHES IN GAINESVILLE
9:17:25AM AS WELL AS HERE.
9:17:26AM SO I'M APPLYING FOR A POSITION ON THE COMMISSION TODAY.
9:17:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:17:31AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, WE WELCOME YOU AS A RELATIVELY NEW
9:17:35AM RESIDENT, AND THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.
9:17:36AM FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE CITY OF
9:17:42AM TAMPA'S EFFORTS ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION WHICH GO BACK, I
9:17:46AM THINK, 30-PLUS YEARS WITH YBOR CITY AND HISTORIC HYDE PARK
9:17:50AM AND THEN ON AND ON.
9:17:51AM HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY GET AROUND AND SEE OUR
9:17:55AM STUFF?
9:17:56AM >> I HAVE, ACTUALLY.
9:17:57AM I LIKE HYDE PARK A LOT, OF COURSE.
9:17:59AM THERE'S A LOT OF BUNGALOWS DOWN THERE, A LOT OF CRAFTSMAN
9:18:03AM ARCHITECTURE.
9:18:03AM BUT YBOR, YES, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FACTORIES HAVE BEEN TORN
9:18:07AM DOWN, THE OLD CIGAR FACTORIES.
9:18:09AM SO THERE'S A LOT OF THE HISTORIC MARKERS.
9:18:11AM I SEE THAT A LOT IN TAMPA.
9:18:13AM THERE'S A LOT OF MARKERS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF
9:18:15AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:18:15AM SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S AN INTERESTING DILEMMA, I GUESS,
9:18:19AM BECAUSE THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD, BUT THEN LIKE TO MOVE
9:18:22AM FORWARD, YOU'VE GOT TO GET RID OF YOUR HISTORIC STOCK.
9:18:27AM SO I THINK IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A
9:18:31AM BALANCE TO STRIKE BECAUSE YOU NEED THE HISTORY TO INFORM THE
9:18:35AM FUTURE BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO DEVELOP INTO THE FUTURE AS WELL.
9:18:38AM I THINK IT'S GOOD WHAT I'VE SEEN BUT I THINK A LOT MORE
9:18:42AM EFFORTS CAN BE DONE IN OTHER PLACES.
9:18:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT.
9:18:44AM THANK YOU.
9:18:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAD ME AT ART INSTITUTE CHICAGO.
9:18:50AM THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO LEARN HISTORY AND TO ACTUALLY SEE
9:18:55AM MODERN THINGS.
9:18:56AM I AGREE WITH YOU.
9:18:57AM IF WE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR
9:19:02AM FUTURE FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT'S?
9:19:04AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR FUTURE ARCHITECTS THAT WE CAN
9:19:07AM DEDICATE OUR HISTORY TO?
9:19:10AM THANK YOU -- NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO SWAY MY DECISION BUT
9:19:13AM WHAT PART OF TOWN DO YOU LIVE IN?
9:19:15AM >> I LIVE CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT.
9:19:18AM NOW THEY ARE CALLING IT MIDTOWN?
9:19:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, WEST TAMPA.
9:19:22AM >> WEST TAMPA.
9:19:22AM I LITERALLY LIVE RIGHT BY THE MALL, INTERNATIONAL MALL.
9:19:28AM I LIVE IN A PLACE THAT IS SUPER DEVELOPED.
9:19:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:19:33AM WELCOME ABOARD.
9:19:34AM >> THANK YOU.
9:19:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
9:19:36AM I ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID.
9:19:38AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
9:19:40AM I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS.
9:19:41AM HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN TAMPA FOR?
9:19:43AM >> I LIVED IN TAMPA FOR A YEAR AND IN ST. PETERSBURG FOR TWO
9:19:46AM YEARS.
9:19:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S GREAT.
9:19:48AM THANK YOU FOR JUMPING ON BOARD SERVICE FOR OUR CITY.
9:19:52AM I MEAN THAT.
9:19:53AM TO APPOINT.
9:19:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, COUNCIL, UNFORTUNATELY, I CAUGHT
9:20:01AM A SCRIVENER'S ERROR AS WE WERE TALKING.
9:20:03AM IF YOU COULD MAKE THE MOTION TO APPOINT AND I'LL COME BACK
9:20:05AM WITH THE RESOLUTION HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MEETING.
9:20:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:20:12AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:20:13AM ANY IN FAVOR?
9:20:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:20:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND, JOE, SHE HAD ME AT UF.
9:20:19AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:20:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, COUNCILMAN.
9:20:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:20:23AM WE'RE ON NUMBER 5.
9:20:25AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, AGAIN.
9:20:29AM WE ARE ON TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
9:20:31AM WE HAVE TWO INCUMBENTS LOOKING TO BE REAPPOINTED.
9:20:36AM BRET FELDMAN IS THE FIRST ONE.
9:20:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:20:45AM MY NAME IS BRET FELDMAN WITH THE LAW FIRM OF PHELPS DUNBAR.
9:20:49AM IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME OF YOU WHO SERVED ON THE VARIANCE
9:20:51AM REVIEW BOARD PREVIOUSLY WITH ME.
9:20:54AM I HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS, A
9:20:58AM LITTLE OVER THAT, I WAS AN ALTERNATE A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME
9:21:04AM AND THEN APPOINTED TO I BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY POSITION ON THE
9:21:07AM BOARD.
9:21:08AM MR. COTTON GAVE ME SOME DOCUMENTS TO GET REAPPOINTED.
9:21:13AM HE GAVE ME A SHORT WINDOW TO DO THAT AND I MISSED THAT SHORT
9:21:18AM WINDOW.
9:21:18AM I GET TO COME HERE AND SEE YOU GOOD PEOPLE THIS MORNING AND
9:21:21AM HOPEFULLY GET REAPPOINTED AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THE
9:21:23AM COMMUNITY.
9:21:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
9:21:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS MR. FELDMAN SAY, JOE AND I HAD THE
9:21:29AM HONOR OF SERVING WITH MR. FELDMAN FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND YOU
9:21:33AM DID SUCH A GREAT JOB, I KEPT ELBOWING HIM AND SAYING, BRETT,
9:21:39AM WHY DON'T YOU RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL.
9:21:40AM FOR SOME REASON HE SAID "NO WAY."
9:21:42AM I THINK HE'S SMARTER THAN THE REST OF US.
9:21:46AM ANYWAY, BRET, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:21:50AM WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK AND DOING SOME MORE.
9:21:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: PHELPS DUNBAR, MANAGING PARTNER, DENNIS
9:21:57AM McCLELLAN IS ONE OF THE BEST GUYS OUT THERE.
9:21:59AM YOUR LAW FIRM FOR NINE YEARS HAS BEEN FOR OUR ANNUAL SENSORY
9:22:04AM FRIENDLY SANTA EVENT THAT WE DO AT HCBA WITH THE JUDGES,
9:22:10AM ABOUT 200 KIDS, NINE YEARS STRAIGHT, YOU HAVE BEEN OUR
9:22:13AM NUMBER ONE TOY FUND-RAISER FOR THAT.
9:22:17AM YOU ALL ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD PLACE IN MY HEART UNLESS I'M
9:22:20AM OPPOSING YOU IN A CASE.
9:22:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:22:22AM WE HAVE A MOTION?
9:22:23AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
9:22:25AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:22:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:22:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:22:28AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:22:34AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:22:36AM THE OTHER INCUMBENT IS SAMANTHA WALKER.
9:22:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:22:45AM AS SHE SAID, MY NAME IS SAM WALKER.
9:22:48AM I'M SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT.
9:22:50AM I WAS UP HERE FOUR MONTHS BEFORE YOU ALL.
9:22:52AM I'M GETTING OVER A LITTLE BIT OF A COLD, SO I'LL KEEP IT
9:22:54AM SHORT.
9:22:55AM I AM AN ATTORNEY AT A LAW FIRM ACROSS THE STREET.
9:22:57AM I THINK THAT MY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND HAS
9:23:01AM INFORMED MY CURRENT POSITION AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'VE
9:23:04AM ENJOYED SERVING THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:23:06AM FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M UP HERE AGAIN BEFORE YOU TODAY.
9:23:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:23:13AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:23:15AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:23:16AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:23:18AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:23:19AM YES, SIR.
9:23:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- WALKER, IF YOU COULD
9:23:26AM MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
9:23:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:23:29AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:23:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:23:32AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:23:37AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
9:23:39AM WE WILL ADVERTISE THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WERE NOT FILLED
9:23:41AM OR READVERTISE.
9:23:43AM THANK YOU.
9:23:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:23:45AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:23:46AM NOW WE MOVE FORWARD TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND
9:23:49AM PRESENTATIONS ON NUMBER 6 FOR THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP.
9:23:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL KNOW I PRESENTED THE TAMPA
9:23:57AM SCORECARD, THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS
9:24:00AM HAS BEEN DEVELOPING A REGIONAL SCORECARD, AND WE WANTED TO
9:24:04AM MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL HEARD THIS, BUT ALSO THAT THE MEMBERS
9:24:08AM OF THE PUBLIC HEAR IT, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE RIGHT
9:24:10AM INFORMATION, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING OR WHAT WE CAN
9:24:13AM BENCHMARK AGAINST.
9:24:14AM WE HAVE THE CEO OF THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP.
9:24:18AM >> COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING.
9:24:20AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING MYSELF AND DAVE SOBUSH OUR DIRECTOR OF
9:24:26AM POLICY AND RESEARCH HERE.
9:24:27AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO COME.
9:24:29AM IF WE COULD START THE SLIDE, PLEASE.
9:24:32AM THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO BENCHMARK OUR REGION ALONG WITH
9:24:36AM OUR PARTNERS FROM UNITED WAY SUNCOAST COMMUNITY FOUNDATION
9:24:39AM OF TAMPA BAY AND THE USF MUMA COLLEGE OF BUSINESS IS A
9:24:44AM CRITICAL STEP IN BOTH UNDERSTANDING AND ADDRESSING THE MAJOR
9:24:47AM CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE AS A COMMUNITY.
9:24:50AM ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 9th, WE RELEASED THE FINDINGS
9:24:55AM FROM OUR RESEARCH TO AN AUDIENCE OF MORE THAN 500 BUSINESS,
9:24:58AM GOVERNMENT, AND PHILANTHROPIC LEADERS, INCLUDING A NUMBER OF
9:25:01AM ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THROUGHOUT TAMPA BAY AT OUR STATE OF
9:25:04AM THE REGION COMMUNITY LUNCHEON.
9:25:06AM IN A MINUTE, I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU A BRIEF VIDEO.
9:25:10AM IT'S FOUR MINUTES.
9:25:11AM IT SUMMARIZES THE 2020 HIGHLIGHTS AND ASK DAVE SOBUSH TO DIG
9:25:15AM DEEP NEAR THE INDICATORS THAT DRIVE OUR ECONOMY.
9:25:18AM IF YOU COULD SWITCH THE SLIDE, PLEASE, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU
9:25:25AM TO CONSIDER ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION, WHICH IS, ARE WE
9:25:28AM CREATING AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY?
9:25:31AM THE DATA YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE HITS A LOT OF HIGH NOTES
9:25:36AM REGARDING THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN TAMPA AND TAMPA BAY.
9:25:39AM THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO RESIDENTS AND
9:25:44AM BUSINESSES.
9:25:45AM WITH ALL THE EXCITING MOMENTUM ACROSS THE REGION, IT WOULD
9:25:49AM BE EASY TO SAY MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
9:25:51AM BUT A CLOSER LOOK SHOWS US THAT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK
9:25:55AM TO DO IF WE WANT TO CREATE A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYBODY
9:25:57AM PROSPERS AND NO ONE IS LEFT BEHIND.
9:26:00AM IF WE COULD PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO.
9:26:02AM THANK YOU.
9:26:09AM THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE STATE OF OUR
9:26:16AM REGION, USING RELIABLE, ACCESSIBLE, AND COMPARABLE DATA.
9:26:21AM MORE THAN 100 BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, AND NONPROFIT LEADERS IN
9:26:25AM TAMPA BAY HAVE JOINED FORCES.
9:26:28AM WE'VE IDENTIFIED OVER 60 INDICATORS THAT DRIVE OUR ECONOMY,
9:26:32AM THAT IF MOVED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, CAN CREATE PROSPERITY
9:26:35AM FOR ALL.
9:26:37AM WE'VE IDENTIFIED 19 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES
9:26:43AM THAT WE SEE AS OUR PEERS.
9:26:46AM EACH YEAR, WE TRACK HOW WE'RE DOING AGAINST THESE
9:26:50AM COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
9:26:54AM WE DIG DEEP INTO THIS DATA AND LOOK HONESTLY AT OUR
9:27:00AM STRENGTHS AND OUR WEAKNESSES TO FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING
9:27:03AM WELL, WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE AND HOW WE STACK UP AGAINST THE
9:27:07AM COMPETITION.
9:27:09AM BUT WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING BACKWARD.
9:27:13AM USING INNOVATIVE REAL-TIME DATA, WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE TO
9:27:17AM INVEST OUR TIME AND OUR RESOURCES TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON OUR
9:27:20AM GREATEST CHALLENGES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
9:27:24AM IN JUST THREE YEARS, WE'VE CHANGED THE WAY WE VIEW OUR
9:27:28AM REGION AND REDEFINED THE ROLE THAT EACH OF US HAS IN ITS
9:27:31AM FUTURE.
9:27:32AM WE ARE EXCITED TO SHARE THE NEW DATA WITH YOU, SO LET'S
9:27:36AM UNVEIL THE RESULTS.
9:27:39AM IN 2020, TAMPA BAY RANKS IN THE TOP 10 IN 14 DIFFERENT
9:27:43AM INDICATORS.
9:27:44AM AND WE GAIN GROUND ON OUR COMPETITORS IN HALF OF THOSE
9:27:48AM AREAS.
9:27:48AM WE TOP THE LIST OF NET MIGRATION FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A
9:27:53AM ROW AFTER BEING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PACK JUST A DECADE AGO.
9:27:57AM MORE NEW BUSINESSES ARE STARTING IN TAMPA BAY, AND WE'RE ONE
9:28:00AM OF ONLY TWO COMMUNITIES STARTING MORE BUSINESSES NOW THAN WE
9:28:03AM DID BEFORE THE RECESSION.
9:28:05AM THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES CONTINUES TO GROW.
9:28:09AM AND WE SAW POSITIVE EXPORT GROWTH FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOUR
9:28:13AM YEARS.
9:28:14AM THE DATA SHOWS US THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE, AND THEY
9:28:18AM BELIEVE IN OUR ECONOMY.
9:28:20AM BUT THERE'S ANOTHER STORY TO TELL.
9:28:23AM IN MORE THAN THREE-QUARTERS OF THE INDICATORS, WE'RE IN THE
9:28:26AM BOTTOM HALF.
9:28:27AM AND MANY WERE STANDING STILL OR LOSING GROUND.
9:28:33AM OUR GRP PER CAPITA TAKES THE VALUE OF ALL THE GOODS AND
9:28:38AM SERVICES PRODUCED IN TAMPA BAY AND DIVIDES THAT BY OUR
9:28:43AM POPULATION.
9:28:43AM IT IS AN IMPORTANT WAY TO COMPARE THE WEALTH AND HEALTH OF
9:28:46AM OUR ECONOMY TO OUR COMPETITION.
9:28:48AM TAMPA BAY SITS IN LAST PLACE.
9:28:52AM AND HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN AT THE BOTTOM FOR MORE THAN TEN
9:28:56AM YEARS.
9:28:57AM MANY SIGNS NOW POINT TO A WIDENING ECONOMIC GAP IN OUR
9:29:01AM REGION.
9:29:03AM OUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME ONCE AGAIN RANKS LAST.
9:29:05AM OUR AVERAGE WAGE TRAILS ALL BUT ONE COMMUNITY.
9:29:09AM AND INCOME INEQUALITY IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH.
9:29:15AM FOR MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S BECOMING INCREASINGLY
9:29:18AM DIFFICULT TO AFFORD BASIC NECESSITIES SUCH AS HOUSING AND
9:29:21AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:29:21AM FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD A CAR OF THEIR OWN, OUR LACK OF
9:29:26AM PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS LIMITS THEIR ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE,
9:29:29AM CHILD CARE, AND JOBS, WHICH LEADS TO MORE PEOPLE SITTING OUT
9:29:33AM OF THE ECONOMY.
9:29:34AM AND FALLING DEEPER INTO POVERTY.
9:29:38AM BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE OUR STORY ENDS.
9:29:41AM THE DATA SHOWS US THAT THERE IS A CLEAR PATH FORWARD TO A
9:29:46AM COMPETITIVE, PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY WHERE NO ONE IS LEFT
9:29:50AM BEHIND.
9:29:51AM WE'VE STILL GOT SOME WORK TO DO, BUT WHEN WE KNOW OUR
9:29:54AM CHALLENGES, WE CAN SOLVE OUR CHALLENGES.
9:29:58AM AND WITH STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN TRANSIT, EDUCATION, AND
9:30:01AM OTHER IMPORTANT DRIVERS, WE CAN BEGIN TO CREATE A NEW
9:30:06AM TOMORROW TODAY.
9:30:19AM >> I'M DAVE SOBUSH, DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND RESEARCH FOR THE
9:30:23AM TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP.
9:30:24AM FOR THE NEXT FEW MINUTES, I'M GOING TO PEEL BACK A FEW OF
9:30:25AM THE INDICATORS THAT CAN HELP US SEE HOW CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC
9:30:29AM FACTORS IMPACT RESIDENTS' LEVELS OF OPPORTUNITY AND PERSONAL
9:30:32AM PROSPERITY.
9:30:32AM IN TERMS OF WHAT WE EARN IN THIS COMMUNITY -- AND I'M NOT
9:30:36AM SURE IF I CAN SEE --
9:30:41AM RIGHT THERE.
9:30:41AM IN TERMS OF WHAT WE EARN, THERE IS A MAJOR GAP BETWEEN TAMPA
9:30:45AM BAY AND OUR COMPETITION.
9:30:46AM WITH AN AVERAGE PRIVATE SECTOR WAGE OF $48,304, TAMPA BAY
9:30:51AM RANKS 19th OUT OF THE 20 MARKETS WE EXAMINE IN THE
9:30:54AM REGIONAL COMPETITIVENESS REPORT, TRAILING EVERY COMMUNITY
9:30:57AM EXCEPT ORLANDO.
9:30:58AM IF YOU'RE A WOMAN IN TAMPA BAY, YOUR PROSPECTS ARE EVEN
9:31:01AM WORSE.
9:31:02AM MALE WORKERS OVER THE AGE OF 25 IN TAMPA BAY EARN A MEDIAN
9:31:09AM WAGE OF $41,000 PER YEAR, WHILE FEMALE WORKERS ARE EARNING
9:31:13AM LESS THAN $32,000 PER YEAR.
9:31:17AM WE CAN SEE THAT WAGE GAP PERSISTING IN EVERY LEVEL OF
9:31:20AM EDUCATION.
9:31:20AM WITH THAT, EDUCATION MAY STILL BE THE BEST INDICATOR FOR
9:31:23AM PROFESSIONAL AND FINANCIAL SUCCESS IN TAMPA BAY, REGARDLESS
9:31:25AM OF GENDER.
9:31:26AM FOR A BASE LINE, THE TYPICAL WORKER IN TAMPA BAY OVER 25
9:31:30AM YEARS OLD EARNS A MEDIAN WAGE OF $36,000 PER YEAR.
9:31:35AM WITH A GRADUATE OR PROFESSIONAL DEGREE, IT'S ALMOST
9:31:37AM $62,000 PER YEAR, AND AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM,
9:31:41AM IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, THE MEDIAN WAGE
9:31:44AM IS AROUND $22,000 PER YEAR.
9:31:47AM ONE-THIRD OF TAMPA BAY RESIDENTS ARE EMPLOYED IN OCCUPATIONS
9:31:51AM WITH A MEDIAN WAGE OF LESS THAN $29,000.
9:31:55AM SO THE TYPE OF INDUSTRY IN WHICH YOU'RE EMPLOYED CAN ALSO
9:31:58AM PLAY A BIG ROLE IN WHAT YOU EARN.
9:32:00AM THESE LOW WAGES ARE TRANSLATING DIRECTLY INTO ANOTHER MAJOR
9:32:04AM WEAKNESS IN OUR REGION, OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME WHERE AT
9:32:08AM $55,000, WE RANK LAST AMONG OUR COMPETITORS.
9:32:11AM WE ALSO SEE A RACIAL DIVIDE.
9:32:14AM AFRICAN AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS IN TAMPA BAY ARE LEARNING LESS
9:32:16AM THAN $42,000.
9:32:18AM 72% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR WHITE HOUSEHOLDS.
9:32:22AM HOUSEHOLDS OF HISPANIC OR LATINO ORIGIN ARE FARING SLIGHTLY
9:32:26AM BETTER AT $48,000, BUT THAT'S STILL ONLY 82% OF THE MEDIAN
9:32:30AM INCOME FOR WHITE HOUSEHOLDS.
9:32:32AM I WILL SAY THAT WITHIN THE CITY AS A WHOLE, THESE GAPS ARE
9:32:36AM MORE PERSISTENT THAN THEY ARE WITHIN THE REGION.
9:32:39AM THE SPREAD BETWEEN WHITE NON-HISPANIC HOUSEHOLDS AND AFRICAN
9:32:44AM AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 42%, AND 52% FOR
9:32:49AM HISPANIC LATINO VERSUS WHITE NON-HISPANIC HOUSEHOLDS.
9:32:53AM COLLECTIVELY, ALL OF THESE EARNING GAPS WHETHER BY RACE,
9:32:57AM SEX, EDUCATION ATTAINMENT OR INDUSTRY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO A
9:33:00AM HIGH LEVEL OF POVERTY IN TAMPA BAY.
9:33:02AM WE RANK 16th IN THE YOUTH POVERTY INDICATOR, JOINING SOUTH
9:33:05AM FLORIDA AND ORLANDO IN THE GROUP OF COMMUNITIES WITH HIGHER
9:33:07AM RATES OF YOUTH POVERTY IN THE NATION AS A WHOLE.
9:33:11AM IN TAMPA BAY, THOSE LIVING IN POVERTY ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE
9:33:17AM YOUNG, LESS EDUCATED OR A PERSON OF COLOR.
9:33:25AM ALL OF WHICH TELLS US THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER WHEN IT
9:33:28AM COMES TO CLOSING THESE GAPS AND ENSURING EQUAL ACCESS TO
9:33:32AM EDUCATION AND OPPORTUNITY.
9:33:32AM WHILE WE OFTEN TOUT THE LOW COST OF LIVING IN TAMPA BAY, THE
9:33:39AM AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD IN OUR REGION IS SPENDING MORE THAN 50% OF
9:33:42AM MONTHLY INCOME ON HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION ALONE.
9:33:46AM IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THAT'S 53%.
9:33:47AM AND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S A LITTLE NORTH OF 60%.
9:33:52AM BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, MANY HOUSEHOLDS CAN ONLY
9:33:55AM ACCESS JOBS BY WALKING OR CYCLING, TRANSIT, OR SOME
9:33:58AM COMBINATION OF THESE MODES, WHICH PUTS THEM AT A REAL
9:34:01AM DISADVANTAGE CONSIDERING TAMPA'S LAST PLACE IN TERMS OF
9:34:04AM TRANSIT SUPPLY.
9:34:05AM WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERRESOURCED.
9:34:08AM THROUGH THE INNOVATIVE RESEARCH BEING DONE BY OUR PARTNERS
9:34:11AM AT USF, WE'VE LEARNED THAT TRANSIT CAN BE A REAL
9:34:14AM GAME-CHANGER WHEN IT COMES TO MOVING THE NEEDLE ON MANY OF
9:34:17AM THE CHALLENGES FACED BY OUR REGION.
9:34:19AM IF WE INCREASE TRANSIT AVAILABILITY BY 20 REVENUE MILES PER
9:34:23AM CAPITA, WHICH IS A FUNCTION OF COVERAGE AND FREQUENCY, IT'S
9:34:26AM A BIG LIFT, BUT A LEVEL OF SERVICE CONTEMPLATED WITH THE ALL
9:34:31AM FOR TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVE.
9:34:33AM WE COULD EXPECT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN POVERTY, INCOME
9:34:37AM INEQUALITY AND ECONOMIC MOBILITY.
9:34:39AM I KNOW THE DATA CAN BE SOBERING, BUT HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS.
9:34:47AM WE'RE GROWING.
9:34:47AM PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE.
9:34:49AM BUSINESSES WANT TO BE HERE, AND WITH THAT GROWTH, WE HAVE
9:34:52AM THE FOUNDATION WE NEED TO CREATE AN INCLUSIVE ECONOMY WHERE
9:34:56AM EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED.
9:34:58AM THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE TODAY.
9:35:01AM I'LL NOW INVITE RICK UP TO JOIN ME FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:35:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --
9:35:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL FOR INDULGING US TO PRESENT
9:35:14AM THIS AND THE TAMPA SCORECARD.COM GIVE A SOBERING PICTURE OF
9:35:18AM THE REALITY OF TAMPA.
9:35:19AM THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HEARD A LOT OF RHETORIC ABOUT HOW
9:35:22AM GREAT TAMPA IS AND WE ARE ALL TAMPA BOOSTERS AND WE WANT TO
9:35:26AM MOTIVATE THE COMMUNITY TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
9:35:30AM BUT THE TRUTH ALSO IS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REAL
9:35:32AM NUMBERS.
9:35:33AM IF WE'RE BEHIND ON THREE-QUARTERS OF THE NUMBERS, AND IF YOU
9:35:36AM BREAK IT OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT TAMPA SCORECARD, TAMPA IS THE
9:35:40AM LAGGARD IN THE REGION.
9:35:42AM THESE ARE REGIONAL NUMBERS, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK -- OUR JOB
9:35:45AM IS TO LOOK AT TAMPA AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO.
9:35:48AM I'LL USE ONE MORE OVERUSED ANALOGY, BUT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
9:35:53AM THE ANALOGY OF ALICE IN WONDERLAND.
9:35:56AM SHE COMES UPON THE CHESHIRE CAT, AND SHE SAYS, "WHICH WAY DO
9:36:00AM I GO? THERE ARE TWO ROADS."
9:36:02AM HE SAYS, "WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO GET TO?"
9:36:06AM SHE SAYS, "I DON'T QUITE KNOW."
9:36:07AM HE SAID, "WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH ROAD YOU TAKE."
9:36:10AM IF WE LOOK AT NUMBERS AND WE'RE DATA DRIVEN, WE CAN IDENTIFY
9:36:13AM NOT ONLY PROBLEMS BUT THEN THE SOLUTIONS.
9:36:15AM I THINK IT'S OUR JOB AS POLICY MAKERS, AS WE'VE ALL
9:36:18AM DISCUSSED, TO FIND THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS AND WORK WITH GROUPS
9:36:21AM LIKE THIS TO MAKE SURE WE SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS FOR THE
9:36:23AM FUTURE AND PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON THE POVERTY CRISIS WE HAVE,
9:36:27AM THE HOUSING CRISIS AND THE EQUITY ISSUES.
9:36:29AM THANK YOU.
9:36:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:36:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
9:36:33AM PRESENTATION -- FOR AN HONEST PRESENTATION.
9:36:35AM I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
9:36:37AM I DIDN'T LOOK THROUGH THE BOOKLETS HERE, BUT YOU'VE SHOWN
9:36:40AM THE REALITY OF -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD HAPPENING.
9:36:43AM A LOT OF CRANES AND CONSTRUCTION AND TAMPA IS BOOMING.
9:36:46AM WHAT ABOUT THE POOR PEOPLE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, THE
9:36:49AM AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY?
9:36:51AM WE'VE HEARD THE SAME STORY FOR 50, 60 YEARS AND NOTHING
9:36:55AM CHANGES.
9:36:55AM IT'S UP TO US AS A BODY, AS A MAYOR, YOU GUYS, YOUR
9:36:59AM ORGANIZATIONS AND WHATNOT TO GET THINGS DONE.
9:37:02AM PEOPLE COME HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK.
9:37:04AM THEY SAY THEIR PIECE.
9:37:06AM WHY IS IT IN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH WE ARE THE GREATEST
9:37:09AM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, MAYBE WE'RE BEHIND CHINA, WHATEVER,
9:37:13AM GLOBALLY, ECONOMICALLY, WHY DO WE STILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT
9:37:16AM POVERTY?
9:37:17AM THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE.
9:37:18AM SO MUCH WEALTH.
9:37:18AM I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT.
9:37:20AM HOW MUCH WEALTH IS THERE IN THE WORLD?
9:37:22AM WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT?
9:37:24AM 200 TRILLION?
9:37:25AM WHAT IS IT?
9:37:30AM WHY DOES POVERTY EXIST?
9:37:31AM WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK HARD BUT CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET.
9:37:35AM HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION, 22,000.
9:37:36AM HOW DO THEY LIVE ON THAT?
9:37:39AM HOW DO THEY HAVE CHILDREN?
9:37:40AM HOW CAN THEY CHASE THE AMERICAN DREAM WHERE THEY ARE NOT
9:37:42AM MOVING UP IN THE WORLD?
9:37:44AM YOU CAN'T BE RELYING CONSTANTLY ON FOOT STAMPS AND OTHER
9:37:47AM SUBSIDIES.
9:37:48AM THESE PEOPLE WORK HARD AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO EARN A
9:37:51AM LIVING, REASONABLE WAGE AND SOMETHING THEY CAN ASPIRE TO.
9:37:55AM MY GRANDPARENTS CAME HERE FROM CUBA WITH NOTHING.
9:37:58AM MY GRANDFATHER WORKED THREE JOBS, WHATEVER IT TOOK TO MAKE
9:38:01AM ENDS MEET.
9:38:02AM HE WAS ABLE TO ATTAIN SOMEWHAT OF A MIDDLE-CLASS LIFESTYLE
9:38:06AM THROUGH HIS HARD WORK.
9:38:08AM NOW PEOPLE WORK TWO, THREE JOBS AND BARELY MAKE ENDS MEET.
9:38:12AM THAT GOES INTO A DEEPER DISCUSSION.
9:38:13AM WE REALLY HAVEN'T FOCUSED ON TRYING TO SOLVE THE POVERTY
9:38:17AM ISSUE OR THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE OR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
9:38:20AM ISSUE.
9:38:20AM WE CAMPAIGN AND WE PROMISE AND WE SAY, BUT WHERE IS THE
9:38:25AM LEADERSHIP?
9:38:26AM I KNOW IT'S UP TO US.
9:38:27AM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
9:38:28AM PEOPLE KEEP WAITING.
9:38:30AM IT'S 2020.
9:38:31AM 1990 THE CONVERSATION WAS THE SAME.
9:38:34AM 1970, THE CONVERSATION WAS THE SAME.
9:38:36AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH IN THIS.
9:38:39AM IT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO GO BEFORE WE GET TO THAT
9:38:41AM MOUNTAINTOP, SOME KIND OF LEGITIMATE --
9:38:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RICK, YOU AND YOUR GROUP HAVE SHOWN US A LOT
9:38:52AM HERE.
9:38:52AM I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
9:38:54AM I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE FIGURES ADDED.
9:38:57AM I'D LIKE TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN.
9:38:59AM YOU WERE TALKING TAMPA BAY.
9:39:00AM I WANT TO SEE TAMPA.
9:39:01AM I ALSO WANT TO SEE THE FIGURES THAT WERE 40, 30, 20 TEN
9:39:09AM YEARS AGO.
9:39:09AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE TAMPA HAS NOT MOVED FASTER IN TRYING TO
9:39:13AM ELIMINATE POVERTY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAN THESE OTHER
9:39:18AM HAVE.
9:39:19AM DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
9:39:20AM WE MAY VERY WELL HAVE BEEN MOVING MUCH FASTER THAN THESE
9:39:23AM OTHER CITIES THAT YOU HAVE PUT BEFORE US RIGHT NOW.
9:39:26AM CAN YOU GIVE ME THOSE FIGURES FROM 30, 40, 10 YEARS AGO?
9:39:33AM AGAIN, THIS IS TAMPA.
9:39:34AM YOU'RE GROUPING US IN WITH TAMPA BAY.
9:39:36AM I DID IT.
9:39:37AM WE ARE REGIONAL.
9:39:37AM YES, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT I WANT TO SEE TAMPA.
9:39:43AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
9:39:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MORE THING AFTER YOU FINISH.
9:39:47AM PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
9:39:48AM >> MAYBE 30, I DON'T KNOW GOING BACK 40 AND 50, JUST THE
9:39:52AM ANNEXATION AND THE FACT THAT THE FIGURES ARE IN A DUSTY BOOK
9:39:59AM AT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
9:40:01AM WE TALK ABOUT TAMPA BAY AS A REGION, AND I HEARD YOU
9:40:05AM REFERENCE THE COMPARISON COMMUNITIES AS CITIES, BUT THOSE
9:40:08AM ARE ALSO REGIONS.
9:40:09AM MINNEAPOLIS ST. PAUL, THAT IS A 16-COUNTY AREA THAT
9:40:17AM STRETCHES INTO PARTS OF RURAL WISCONSIN.
9:40:20AM WE DO FEEL THAT IT IS AN APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON.
9:40:25AM COMMUNITIES ARE PART OF METROPOLITAN REGIONS BECAUSE THERE
9:40:27AM IS A SHARED WORKFORCE.
9:40:29AM THERE ARE ECONOMIC LINKAGES.
9:40:35AM THERE ARE MANY RATIONALES FOR IT TAKING THE METROPOLITAN
9:40:37AM APPROACH.
9:40:38AM THAT SAID, WE ARE PLEASED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN THE NEAR
9:40:43AM FUTURE, IN MID SPRING OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL BE LAUNCHING ON
9:40:46AM OUR STATE OF THE REGION.COM WEBSITE THE ABILITY TO DIVE DOWN
9:40:51AM AND NOT JUST COMPARE, SAY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO CHARLOTTE,
9:40:55AM BUT THE MORE APPROPRIATE COMPARISON, WHICH WOULD BE
9:40:58AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO MECKLENBURG COUNTY AND WHERE THE DATA
9:41:01AM IS AVAILABLE, COMPARE CITY OF TAMPA TO CITY OF CHARLOTTE,
9:41:06AM FOR EXAMPLE, AND NOT COMPARE CITIES TO REGIONS BUT COMPARE
9:41:09AM REGIONS TO REGIONS, COUNTIES TO COUNTIES, CITIES TO CITIES
9:41:12AM WHERE AVAILABLE.
9:41:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:41:14AM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE.
9:41:16AM JUST ONE PORTION HERE WHICH TALKS ABOUT EDUCATION.
9:41:19AM RALEIGH DURHAM IS AT THE TOP.
9:41:21AM THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE HAS HOW MANY COLLEGES THERE?
9:41:24AM NC STATE, WAKE FOREST, DUKE.
9:41:27AM HOW MANY COLLEGES DO THEY HAVE THERE?
9:41:29AM >> THOSE ARE THE THREE I WOULD NAME, COUNCILMAN.
9:41:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHERS.
9:41:33AM >> YES.
9:41:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE COMPARISON
9:41:36AM BETWEEN THAT AND TAMPA.
9:41:37AM THANK YOU.
9:41:38AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR FACTS AND FIGURES.
9:41:41AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE HOW RETIREMENT PLAYS IN THE FACTS
9:41:44AM AND FIGURES.
9:41:45AM THIS IS A HUGE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.
9:41:47AM HOW DOES THAT BALANCE OUT WITH THE FIGURES THAT YOU HAVE
9:41:49AM ALONG WITH THE OTHERS THAT MAY NOT BE RETIREMENT,
9:41:52AM MINNEAPOLIS ST. PAUL.
9:41:54AM >> ALL OF THE INDICATORS ARE APPLES TO APPLES.
9:41:55AM IT IS THE SAME SOURCE USED FOR EVERY COMMUNITY.
9:41:58AM SO THE COMPARISON ON THE DATA LEVEL ARE ACCURATE.
9:42:02AM WHILE EVERYBODY IS DRAWN TO TAMPA BAY VERSUS A PARTICULAR
9:42:07AM CITY COMPARISON, WHAT I TRY TO REALLY ADVOCATE FOR IS TAMPA
9:42:11AM BAY COMPARED TO THE PANOPLY OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN
9:42:15AM THERE.
9:42:16AM THERE IS NOT ANY COMMUNITY LIKE TAMPA BAY.
9:42:19AM IT'S WHY IT'S SPECIAL.
9:42:21AM IT'S WHY WE LIVE HERE.
9:42:22AM BUT THERE ARE COMPONENTS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LIKE
9:42:24AM TAMPA BAY.
9:42:25AM COMPONENTS THAT HAVE A LARGE MILITARY PRESENCE.
9:42:28AM COMPONENTS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH A RESEARCH UNIVERSITY.
9:42:30AM THERE ARE THREE OTHER FLORIDA METROS THAT ARE ALSO
9:42:33AM REQUIREMENT DESTINATIONS.
9:42:37AM PHOENIX AND SAN DIEGO COME TO MIND AS OTHER RETIREMENT
9:42:42AM DESTINATIONS.
9:42:42AM WE RECEIVE THE QUESTION OVER AND OVER.
9:42:45AM I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE DEEPER DIVE WE DID IN THE
9:42:50AM TALENT SECTION, WHICH IS AROUND LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION,
9:42:52AM WHICH IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE, 25 TO 64 ARE IN THE
9:42:59AM LABOR FORCE.
9:43:00AM AND WE LOOKED AT THAT.
9:43:02AM TAMPA BAY'S CHALLENGE IS NOT IN THE LATER YEARS.
9:43:04AM IT'S NOT IN THE 55 TO 64.
9:43:07AM IT IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE BEHIND IN EVERY SINGLE AGE
9:43:10AM BRACKET OF THAT LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION.
9:43:13AM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE ECONOMY AT A LOWER
9:43:16AM RATE THAN OTHERS.
9:43:17AM WE DO OUR BEST TO PROVIDE A FOREST OF COMMUNITIES FOR WHICH
9:43:25AM TO COMPARE TAMPA BAY RATHER THAN THIS TREE VERSUS THIS TREE.
9:43:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
9:43:34AM I AGREE THAT TAMPA IS A BIG CITY AND NEED TO START ACTING
9:43:37AM LIKE ONE.
9:43:37AM WE HAVE A DEEP WATER PORT THAT IN MY OPINION IS GOING
9:43:39AM UNDERUSED.
9:43:40AM SHOULD HAVE MANUFACTURING, IMPORTING, EXPORTING, WHICH WOULD
9:43:44AM BUILD CAREERS -- CAREERS, NOT JUST JOBS, FOR SOME OF OUR
9:43:47AM PEOPLE.
9:43:48AM THANK YOU AGAIN.
9:43:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOING THE DARK FINALLY COMES TO THE LIGHT.
9:44:00AM LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE, YOU BROUGHT IT TO THE LIGHT.
9:44:02AM NOW WE JUST HOPE THAT FOLKS WHO ARE POLICY MAKERS CAN
9:44:09AM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LIGHT IS ALL ABOUT, HOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
9:44:11AM IN DARKNESS.
9:44:14AM I WAS AT AN EVENT LAST WEEK, AND THIS GENTLEMAN, MR. MEADE,
9:44:19AM HE TALKED ABOUT TWO TYPES OF FOLKS, FOLKS THAT ARE
9:44:26AM CONTRIBUTORS AND FOLKS THAT ARE COMMITTED.
9:44:31AM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE?
9:44:33AM I'M HOPING THAT THIS BOARD IS COMMITTED, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST
9:44:37AM CONTRIBUTORS.
9:44:37AM I HOPE THE POLICY MAKERS LISTENING THAT WE NEED COMMITTEE
9:44:40AM PEOPLE, NOT -- COMMITTED PEOPLE NOT CONTRIBUTORS.
9:44:43AM WHEN YOU'RE COMMITTED THAT MEANS YOU PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE
9:44:47AM LINE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.
9:44:49AM NOT A NICKEL OR DIME AND MOVE ON YOUR WAY.
9:44:53AM I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO MUSTER UP THIS INFORMATION SO WE
9:44:56AM KNOW WHERE WE TRULY ARE.
9:44:58AM I HEARD MANY TIMES WE'RE THE NEXT GREAT CITY.
9:45:01AM WE ARE THE GREAT CITY AND I TELL PEOPLE WE ARE NOT THERE
9:45:05AM YET.
9:45:05AM WE'RE WAY BEHIND.
9:45:06AM AS YOUR NUMBERS SHOW THAT, WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM.
9:45:10AM SO I'M HOPING THAT THE POLICY MAKERS WILL LISTEN AND WAKE UP
9:45:14AM AND WE'LL BE COMMITTED TO MAKE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
9:45:18AM TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
9:45:20AM HOT TOPIC IN TAMPA, TRANSPORTATION.
9:45:22AM WHAT IRKS ME ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHEN I SEE THESE
9:45:26AM PLANS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING GOING TO THE HEART OF THE CITY.
9:45:31AM I DON'T SEE ANY PLANS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT WE WANT TO MAKE
9:45:34AM IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP PEOPLE, BUT THERE ARE MORE RAILROAD
9:45:38AM TRACKS UNUTILIZED IN THE INNER CITY.
9:45:41AM SO WE TALK ABOUT JOBS, GETTING PEOPLE A TO B, IF THERE IS A
9:45:46AM JOB OUT IN WIMAUMA OR RUSKIN, WHERE ARE THOSE TRACKS GOING
9:45:50AM TO GO TO GET THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT LITTLE MESH AREA?
9:45:56AM HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THERE?
9:45:58AM ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT DOWNTOWN, UNIVERSITY, OR CONCERNED
9:46:03AM ABOUT EVERYBODY?
9:46:04AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IT NEEDS TO
9:46:06AM SUPPORT EVERY COMMUNITY, NOT JUST CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, BUT
9:46:09AM EVERY COMMUNITY.
9:46:10AM I WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR THAT.
9:46:12AM I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT TRACKS GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE.
9:46:17AM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STOPPING
9:46:20AM POVERTY AND GETTING PEOPLE TO WORK AND DOING WHAT WE NEED TO
9:46:24AM DO TO BE COMMITTED.
9:46:25AM THAT'S MY THING.
9:46:27AM COMMITTED.
9:46:29AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:46:30AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, AND THANKS TO THE
9:46:33AM ORGANIZATION FOR BRINGING ALL THIS EFFORT INTO THIS.
9:46:38AM I THINK THESE BENCHMARKS AND THE DATA BEHIND THEM ARE
9:46:42AM EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
9:46:44AM SO WE KNOW, AS MR. CITRO SAID, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'VE
9:46:49AM BEEN, WE SEE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
9:46:52AM THE ITEMS THAT CONCERN ME PERHAPS THE MOST ARE THE DISPARITY
9:46:59AM IN REGARD TO RACIAL AND GENDER AND THE ECONOMIC DISPARITY IN
9:47:05AM THOSE GROUPS.
9:47:06AM NOT TO BE CRITICAL, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN'T DO
9:47:13AM EVERYTHING, BUT WE NEED HELP.
9:47:16AM I'VE HEARD UP HERE THE DECISION MAKERS, WE ARE THE DECISION
9:47:19AM MAKERS.
9:47:21AM WE'RE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS ALONG WITH
9:47:24AM COUNTY COMMISSIONS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE REGION
9:47:30AM AND MAYORS, ET CETERA.
9:47:31AM SO WE ARE THE DECISION MAKERS.
9:47:33AM BUT THE NEXT STEP IS WE NEED HELP IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE FIX
9:47:36AM SOME OF THESE THINGS?
9:47:37AM I KNOW THERE'S NOT A SWITCH OVERNIGHT TO TAKE US FROM THE
9:47:40AM BOTTOM TO THE TOP IN THESE CATEGORIES, BUT HOW DO WE GET
9:47:43AM THESE THINGS TO GO UP?
9:47:46AM I RECALL IN THE PAST, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ABOUT WAGES.
9:47:51AM I KNOW IN THE PAST, SOME OF THE REASONS WE ATTRACTED SOME OF
9:47:55AM THE BUSINESSES THAT WE DID GET IN TERMS OF THE BACKROOM CALL
9:48:00AM CENTERS, WHICH WAS THE BIG DEAL 15, 20 YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE
9:48:03AM HAD LOW WAGES AND SOME OF THOSE INDUSTRIES WERE ATTRACTED TO
9:48:06AM US BEFORE THEY WENT TO INDIA IN THAT REGARD.
9:48:14AM WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COMMUNITY AND WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST
9:48:17AM THIS BODY DOES TO GET US OUT OF THE BOTTOM IN SOME OF THESE
9:48:24AM CATEGORIES?
9:48:25AM >> WELL, COUNCILOR, GREAT QUESTION, AND IT IS THE MOST OFTEN
9:48:29AM ASKED QUESTION, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS NOW.
9:48:32AM THE FIRST IMPORTANT STEP WE FELT WAS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE
9:48:35AM SOME DATA IN FRONT OF US ON WHICH WE AGREE, BECAUSE YOU
9:48:39AM CAN'T DEVELOP A STRATEGY WITHOUT METRICS AND WITHOUT BEING
9:48:44AM ABLE TO SET GOALS.
9:48:46AM IN OUR MIND, THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE NEED TO AS A
9:48:50AM COMMUNITY BEGIN TO SET SOME REASONABLE GOALS, AND THEN WE
9:48:55AM NEED TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO GET THERE.
9:48:57AM SOME OF THESE ARE VERY INTERLINKED WITH EACH OTHER.
9:49:00AM WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO WORK AS A REGION, AS A
9:49:04AM MARKET, AS AN ECONOMY TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
9:49:08AM IF ONE COUNTY OR ONE CITY IS DOING THIS OVER HERE AND
9:49:11AM NOTHING IS HAPPENING OVER HERE, IT'S LIKE A WHAC-A-MOLE AND
9:49:18AM YOU NEVER REALLY END UP SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
9:49:20AM IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME REGIONAL CONVERSATIONS, REGIONAL
9:49:23AM COORDINATION.
9:49:23AM IT IS GOING TO TAKE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER
9:49:26AM MARKETS AND BRINGING THOSE PEOPLE HERE TO GIVE US IDEAS
9:49:31AM ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR OWN
9:49:35AM UNIQUE WAY.
9:49:36AM THE FIRST STEP IS TO ACCEPT WHAT WE HAVE.
9:49:38AM THE NEXT IS TO SET GOALS AND THEN DEVELOP A STRATEGY.
9:49:42AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN OUR
9:49:46AM COMMUNITY.
9:49:47AM SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE'RE TAMPA, ARE WE TAMPA BAY, WHAT
9:49:51AM DOES THAT MEAN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA?
9:49:53AM I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS
9:49:56AM HOLISTICALLY.
9:49:59AM MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE CITY LIMITS ARE, WHERE
9:50:03AM THE CITY STARTS AND THE COUNTY STARTS.
9:50:05AM PEOPLE IN TOWN N' COUNTRY, WE SEND THEM UTILITY BILL BECAUSE
9:50:08AM WE HAPPEN TO BROUGHT WATER AND SEWER IN TOWN N' COUNTRY.
9:50:12AM THEY THINK THEY ARE PART OF THE CITY WHEN IN REALITY THEY
9:50:15AM ARE PART OF THE COUNTY.
9:50:16AM THOSE LINES HAVE FADED OVER THE YEARS WITH OUR REGION,
9:50:19AM PEOPLE COMPLAIN TO US ABOUT TRAFFIC.
9:50:22AM THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC, YOU GUYS ARE APPROVING ALL THESE
9:50:25AM PROJECTS.
9:50:25AM THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM.
9:50:28AM SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IS, BUT MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS COMING
9:50:30AM FROM THE REGION BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS AN ATTRACTOR.
9:50:34AM I REMEMBER MAYOR PAM TALKING ABOUT THAT 15 YEARS AGO.
9:50:38AM WE ARE AN ATTRACTOR, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF THE
9:50:42AM TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM.
9:50:43AM THEY ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE BASE.
9:50:47AM DRIVING TO BRANDON, THIS AND THAT.
9:50:49AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ON A REGIONAL LEVEL, BUT AT THE SAME
9:50:52AM TIME, I SO LOOK FORWARD TO GROUPS LIKE YOURS AND OTHERS
9:50:58AM COMING FORTH WITH REALLY TANGIBLE SOLUTIONS.
9:51:02AM WHAT CAN THIS BODY DO TO DO A BETTER JOB ON AFFORDABLE
9:51:05AM HOUSING?
9:51:05AM I THINK WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT WITH TRANSPORTATION
9:51:09AM EVERYTHING WE CAN.
9:51:10AM WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE COURT BATTLE.
9:51:12AM ONCE WE DO IN A POSITIVE WAY, THIS BODY AND I KNOW THE MAYOR
9:51:18AM WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REGION ON THE TRANSPORTATION.
9:51:20AM I THINK WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THERE ARE
9:51:24AM SO MANY CHALLENGES.
9:51:26AM >> COUNCILOR, I SPECIFICALLY WILL SAY THAT ALL THE RESEARCH
9:51:30AM POINTS TO TRANSIT AS BEING THE BIGGEST ENABLER.
9:51:33AM IT DOESN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING BY ITSELF, BUT IT ENABLES US TO
9:51:37AM THEN DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO DEAL WITH EDUCATIONAL ACCESS,
9:51:41AM ATTAINMENT, WITH ACCESS TO JOBS TO HEALTH CARE, TO CHILD
9:51:45AM CARE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:51:46AM AND WITHOUT TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO ESPECIALLY LOWER,
9:51:50AM MIDDLE INCOME RESIDENTS, ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE DIMINISHED
9:51:55AM SUBSTANTIALLY, AND IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT AFFECTS OUR POVERTY
9:52:00AM RATE AND HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:52:02AM I THINK THAT WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING THERE.
9:52:05AM WE'RE GOING ALL IN ON TRANSIT.
9:52:08AM HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME COMPARABLE MEASURES ACROSS THE BAY
9:52:11AM IN PINELLAS COUNTY AND UP IN PASCO COUNTY, BUT THAT'S A BIG
9:52:16AM STEP FORWARD THAT SHOULD LONG TERM IMPACT THESE NUMBERS.
9:52:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, I AGREE WITH YOU
9:52:22AM ON THE TRANSIT.
9:52:23AM MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL HERE.
9:52:25AM ENDED UP IN D.C. FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
9:52:28AM SHE'S NEVER DRIVEN SINCE.
9:52:29AM SHE'S IN D.C.
9:52:30AM SHE DOES EVERY POSSIBLE FORM OF TRANSIT AND BASICALLY THREW
9:52:35AM AWAY HER LICENSE, EXCEPT SHE USES IT FOR ID.
9:52:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: LAST WORD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:52:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THIS ON TV AT HOME OR
9:52:44AM HEARING ABOUT IT, THIS BODY HAS DONE A LOT IN THE LAST FEW
9:52:47AM MONTHS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
9:52:49AM THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS PRESENTATION, THE TAMPA SCORECARD
9:52:54AM PRESENTATION AND OTHERS MEANS THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND I
9:52:56AM SERIOUSLY WANT TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, AND WE SERIOUSLY
9:52:59AM WANT TO ADDRESS THEM.
9:53:00AM AND WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
9:53:03AM PEOPLE SOMETIMES WONDER WHY DO YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME
9:53:06AM TALKING ABOUT CRAs AND CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS, ALL OF
9:53:09AM THAT IS TIED BACK TO THIS.
9:53:12AM WOMEN'S RIGHTS, ALL TIED BACK.
9:53:14AM MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND BUSINESS, ALL TIED BACK TO THIS.
9:53:19AM WHY DO WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVER AND OVER AGAIN?
9:53:21AM BECAUSE IT'S TIED BACK INTO THESE NUMBERS.
9:53:23AM NOW WE'RE GETTING A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE CRA, AND
9:53:26AM WE'RE GETTING A NEW HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CAROL
9:53:29AM POST, AND WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IS WORKING
9:53:33AM COLLABORATIVELY WITH HER AND WITH YOUR GROUP AND OTHERS SO
9:53:36AM THAT WE CAN CREATE A REALLY DYNAMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
9:53:40AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TAMPA AND THE REGION THAT
9:53:44AM THESE KIND OF DATA AND SHOWS HOW WE MOVE ON THIS DATA, NOT
9:53:48AM JUST COUNTING THE NUMBER OF CONDOS IN DOWNTOWN.
9:53:50AM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:53:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND
9:53:55AM EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THAT REPORT.
9:53:57AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:53:58AM I WAS THINKING, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOING
9:54:01AM WELL AND WE'RE ALWAYS PRESENTED WITH OPTIMISM AND WHATNOT.
9:54:05AM AND WE SHOULD.
9:54:06AM THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE
9:54:08AM CITY OF TAMPA THAT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:54:10AM BUT IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF ON A NATIONAL SCALE IN THE
9:54:14AM 1960s, WHEN THE ECONOMY WAS GREAT, ET CETERA.
9:54:18AM WRITER NAMED MICHAEL HARRINGTON WROTE A BOOK CALLED "THE
9:54:22AM OTHER AMERICA."
9:54:23AM LISTEN, THINGS ARE AFFLUENT.
9:54:25AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AFFLUENT SOCIETY.
9:54:27AM THE OTHER AMERICA.
9:54:28AM THE OTHER AMERICA THAT WOULD LOVE TO LIVE PAYCHECK TO
9:54:31AM PAYCHECK.
9:54:32AM IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE BELOW THAT LEVEL OF DIGNITY, OF
9:54:35AM ANXIOUS DIGNITY.
9:54:36AM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER TAMPA.
9:54:38AM THE PART OF TAMPA THAT WE DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT FOR MANY,
9:54:42AM MANY REASONS.
9:54:43AM I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.
9:54:45AM WE KNOW HISTORICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR ECONOMY.
9:54:48AM AFTER WORLD WAR II TO THE EARLY 19 OPENs, ALL PARTS OF OUR
9:54:52AM ECONOMY LARGELY GREW TOGETHER, BUT THEN IN 1970s, THE
9:54:56AM BOTTOM FELL OUT OF OUR ECONOMY WITH A MANUFACTURING BASE.
9:54:59AM IT HAPPENED TO COINCIDE WITH A NATIONAL TENDENCY TO SOLVE
9:55:04AM THOSE INVESTMENTS THAT HELPED, IN MY OPINION, CREATE THE
9:55:07AM MIDDLE CLASS AS BEING PART OF THE PROBLEM.
9:55:08AM YOU PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND THAT CREATED A REAL BIG
9:55:11AM CHALLENGE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH
9:55:14AM OBVIOUSLY HAD A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT ON TAMPA.
9:55:17AM IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
9:55:18AM I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE CAN DO IN THE
9:55:20AM CITY.
9:55:20AM SOMETHING I ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THAT I'M ACTUALLY WORKING
9:55:23AM WITH SOME FOLKS ON TO PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK,
9:55:26AM TO HELP GIVE PEOPLE A PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASSES,
9:55:30AM ENCOURAGING APPRENTICESHIPS.
9:55:32AM TAKING YOUNG PEOPLE GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL AND NOT SURE
9:55:34AM ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.
9:55:36AM HEY, LISTEN, YOU DO AN APPRENTICESHIP WITH STEEL OR PIPES,
9:55:39AM ELECTRIC, ET CETERA, YOU COULD ON YOUR WAY TO EARNING 40,
9:55:45AM 50, 60 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
9:55:46AM THAT'S SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO WORK ON TO HAVE A PLAN AND
9:55:49AM MOVE FORWARD.
9:55:49AM THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO LONG TERM AS WELL AS RIGHT HERE,
9:55:53AM RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THE INVESTMENTS IN THE PEOPLE IGNORED TOO
9:55:56AM LONG.
9:55:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.
9:55:57AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:55:59AM THANK YOU.
9:55:59AM NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:56:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:56:11AM MENTESNOT.
9:56:12AM THAT WAS A NICE PRESENTATION JUST DONE.
9:56:14AM THE REALITY IS, THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO WILLPOWER,
9:56:21AM AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NO MAYOR.
9:56:25AM THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
9:56:27AM WEEK AFTER WEEK FOR THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS NO MAYOR.
9:56:30AM YOU KNOW WHY?
9:56:32AM BECAUSE IT IS A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL AND YOU CAN'T DO
9:56:35AM NOTHING.
9:56:36AM YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING BUT SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE.
9:56:39AM THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO.
9:56:42AM CITY COUNCIL AFTER CITY COUNCIL CAN'T DO NOTHING BUT SIGN ON
9:56:44AM THE DOTTED LINE.
9:56:46AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
9:56:47AM BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET AND WHAT YOU ALL DID.
9:56:50AM NOTHING FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
9:56:51AM YOU-ALL SIGN ON THE BOTTOM LINE.
9:56:58AM PEOPLE DOWN HERE COMPLAINING, PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT
9:57:00AM ROUNDABOUTS THAT WE DON'T NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT YOU
9:57:03AM ALL DO?
9:57:03AM YOU ALL SIGN ON THE BOTTOM LINE AND THEN YOU ALL TALK THIS
9:57:07AM GARBAGE, STRAIGHT GARBAGE WHEN BLACK PEOPLE TRY TO TALK, YOU
9:57:11AM ALL DON'T FEEL US.
9:57:13AM YOU DON'T HAVE THE TOLERANCE FOR US.
9:57:14AM NO TOLERANCE.
9:57:15AM NO SENSITIVITY.
9:57:17AM NO SENSITIVITY AT ALL, NONE, BECAUSE IT'S HATRED.
9:57:22AM IT'S A HATRED YOU ALL HAVE FOR US.
9:57:25AM EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU ALL, IT IS A HATRED YOU HAVE FOR BLACK
9:57:28AM PEOPLE.
9:57:29AM YOU KNOW HOW YOU KNOW IT?
9:57:31AM YOU ALL CELEBRATE POVERTY.
9:57:32AM YOU CELEBRATE POVERTY.
9:57:34AM THAT'S WHAT CAPITALISM AND IMPERIALISM AND COLONIALISM AND
9:57:39AM NEOCOLONIALISM, THAT'S WHAT IT IS MADE OF.
9:57:46AM THAT'S WHY 22 RICH WHITE MEN HAVE MORE WEALTH THAN ALL THE
9:57:53AM WOMEN ON THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA.
9:57:56AM THAT'S WHAT TED TURNER HAVE MORE PROPERTY THAN ALL THE BLACK
9:58:01AM PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
9:58:03AM WHY?
9:58:04AM BECAUSE IT'S BUILT OFF OF HATRED.
9:58:06AM BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD 20 MILLION ACRES OF LAND FOR OUR
9:58:09AM FARMERS, THE WHITE FOLKS RAN US OFF OUR PROPERTY.
9:58:12AM RAN US OUT OF ROSEWOOD, RAN US OUT OF PLACES RIGHT AROUND
9:58:17AM HERE.
9:58:18AM TAKE OUR PROPERTY.
9:58:19AM OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT AND IT IS A HATRED YOU ALL
9:58:22AM HAVE FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
9:58:25AM IT'S A HATRED YOU HAVE FOR BLACK SKIN.
9:58:29AM IT IS A HATRED AND YOU ALL CELEBRATE THE NONSENSE.
9:58:31AM YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW YOU HAVE A HATRED OR PERSONAL HATRED,
9:58:36AM EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU ALL GOING TO BE AT GASPARILLA
9:58:41AM PARADE CELEBRATING HERESY AND BLACK HATRED.
9:58:48AM CELEBRATING IT.
9:58:49AM YOU ALL CELEBRATE THESE REPORTS.
9:58:53AM YOU HEAR WHAT ONE MAN SAY.
9:58:55AM WE WANT TO SEE ANOTHER STUDY.
9:58:57AM EVERYBODY WANT TO SEE ANOTHER STUDY.
9:59:00AM IF I HAVE SEX, IF I GET A PROSTITUTE ON CREDIT, I WANT TO
9:59:07AM TRY THAT AGAIN, TOO.
9:59:07AM I WANT TO TRY IT AGAIN.
9:59:08AM YOU ALL KEEP TRYING BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ALL HATE US.
9:59:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:59:12AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:59:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, JOHNNY JOHNSON.
9:59:20AM WE COME DOWN HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK WITH THE SAME INFORMATION
9:59:26AM THE TAMPA PARTNERSHIP JUST GAVE YOU GUYS.
9:59:29AM IT SHOULDN'T BE NO SURPRISE OF THE NUMBERS THAT HE PRESENTED
9:59:33AM TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE COME DOWN HERE EACH AND EVERY
9:59:37AM THURSDAY TO LET YOU KNOW NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
9:59:40AM YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM THE ROOT OF THE SITUATION, NOT FROM A
9:59:43AM STUDY OR A STATISTIC.
9:59:45AM THESE ARE FROM THE ROOTS.
9:59:46AM WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MAKES THE CITY GO.
9:59:48AM THE LOW-PAID PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT ENTITLE YOU GUYS TO
9:59:54AM HAVE YOUR STATUS.
9:59:55AM DON'T BE SURPRISED AT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'VE SEEN BECAUSE
9:59:59AM AGAIN WE'RE DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK DEMONSTRATING THOSE
10:00:03AM NUMBERS.
10:00:04AM MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE
10:00:06AM INFORMATION THAT YOU GOT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSON,
10:00:09AM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OR A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION?
10:00:11AM AGAIN, WE GAVE YOU THE NUMBERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WEEK
10:00:14AM AFTER WEEK, YEAR AFTER YEAR AND YOU HAVEN'T DID ANYTHING
10:00:17AM WITH IT.
10:00:18AM YOU PASS DOWN THE BATON.
10:00:20AM I GUESS YOU ALL WILL STAND IN PLACE AND NOT RUN THE RACE.
10:00:23AM THAT IS SAD THING.
10:00:25AM LIKE THE BROTHER SAID, MAN, YOU HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO
10:00:28AM COME IN AND TELL YOU THE SAME THING WE'VE BEEN SAYING.
10:00:30AM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYBODY'S EYES ARE WORKING AND MINDS
10:00:32AM ARE WORKING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING BETTER.
10:00:36AM PEOPLE'S LIVES AT SPEAK.
10:00:37AM WE ARE THE COMMUNITY, NOT NO STATISTICS.
10:00:40AM WE ARE LIVING THAT POVERTY.
10:00:41AM WE HAVE RETAIL SPACE ON 22nd AND HILLSBOROUGH.
10:00:44AM ONLY WAY OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GROW IF WE GET BUSINESSES
10:00:47AM HERE THAT HAVE INVESTMENT, THAT WANT IT TO GROW.
10:00:50AM ALL MONEY GO OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:00:52AM WE HAVE NOTHING.
10:00:53AM WE HAVE TO GO TO BRANDON, NORTH TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, TEMPLE
10:00:56AM TERRACE TO FIND GREAT EATERY PLACES.
10:00:58AM ALL THE RETAIL SPACE ON HILLSBOROUGH AND 22nd, WE SHOULD
10:01:02AM HAVE EVERY MAJOR RESTAURANT UP THERE.
10:01:04AM APPLEBEE'S, CHICK-FIL-A, INSTEAD YOU PUT THE HIGH
10:01:11AM CHOLESTEROL RESTAURANTS.
10:01:13AM THE FRIED FOODS.
10:01:14AM NO OLIVE GARDEN.
10:01:15AM BRANDON OR TEMPLE TERRACE, OUT ON BUSCH.
10:01:19AM WE HAVE THE POWER TO DO THINGS.
10:01:21AM YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE THE MAYOR DO HER JOB AND YOU GUYS HAVE
10:01:24AM TO DO YOUR JOB.
10:01:29AM IT GOES BACK DOWN AGAIN TO THE ETHNIC.
10:01:32AM IT'S ALWAYS THE BLACKS.
10:01:35AM NONE WHITE.
10:01:37AM WHITES GET THE PASS ON EVERYTHING.
10:01:39AM STUDY SHOWED THAT THEY ARE DOING NO BAD DOWN BELOW POVERTY.
10:01:46AM ALL BLACK AND BROWN SKINNED PEOPLE.
10:01:48AM AGAIN, WE'RE DOWN HERE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING.
10:01:51AM WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU
10:01:53AM HAVE?
10:01:54AM YOU HAVE IT FROM THE ROOT AND TOUGH FROM THE TOP FROM THE
10:01:56AM STUDIES.
10:01:57AM YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DO WORK WITH.
10:01:59AM YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE STUDY.
10:02:01AM WE NEED WORK.
10:02:01AM WE NEED ACTION.
10:02:02AM WE NEED PEOPLE MOVING THEIR FEET AND NOT STANDING STILL.
10:02:06AM NO FAILURE IN PROGRESS.
10:02:07AM THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
10:02:09AM STANDING STILL, WE'LL STAY THERE.
10:02:11AM WE'LL BE HERE NEXT YEAR DOING THE SAME THING.
10:02:14AM YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE SPECIAL.
10:02:16AM TWO WORDS, FEAR AND FAITH.
10:02:19AM WHICH ONE ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE.
10:02:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:02:21AM NEXT, PLEASE.
10:02:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:29AM GERALDINE ROGERS TUNES.
10:02:31AM I UNDERSTAND ROUNDABOUTS HAVE PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE WITH
10:02:34AM REDUCING THE NUMBER OF SERIOUS OR FATAL CRASHES.
10:02:38AM STILL PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST SAFETY ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT.
10:02:43AM AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE 34th STREET STRIP HAS A HIGH
10:02:47AM CONCENTRATION OF CHILDREN COMMUTING IN THE AREA.
10:02:50AM AND THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTIONS WILL BE IN CLOSE
10:02:53AM PROXIMITY TO EARLY HEAD START EDUCATION PROGRAMS, EARLY
10:02:58AM SCHOOLS -- EXCUSE ME, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, AND NEIGHBORHOOD
10:03:02AM PARKS.
10:03:02AM YOUNG CHILDREN ARE OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.
10:03:06AM THESE CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE INTRODUCED TO DANGEROUS TRAFFIC
10:03:10AM SITUATIONS.
10:03:11AM CONSTANTLY EXPOSED TO HIGH-RISK ACCIDENT AREAS.
10:03:19AM WHILE WALKING TO SCHOOLS OR TO PARKS.
10:03:21AM ACCORDING TO CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT
10:03:25AM PERSPECTIVE, THEY HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC CRASHES
10:03:28AM AT ROUNDABOUTS.
10:03:31AM HOWEVER, IT APPEARS INFORMATION PROVIDED ON TRAFFIC CRASHES
10:03:35AM ON 40th STREET FOR 2018 REFLECT AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER
10:03:39AM OF TRAFFIC CRASHES AT ROUNDABOUTS AT THOSE THREE
10:03:43AM INTERSECTIONS.
10:03:43AM TOTAL OF 53 TRAFFIC CRASHES IN 2018 AT INTERSECTIONS WITH
10:03:50AM ROUNDABOUTS.
10:03:51AM AT LEAST 35 CRASHES IN 2019 AT THOSE ROUNDABOUTS ON 40th
10:03:57AM STREET.
10:03:58AM I DON'T HAVE THE DATA FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF 2019.
10:04:02AM IN 2016 AND 2017, THERE WERE 50 PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES AND 12
10:04:09AM BICYCLISTS KILLED IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:04:11AM PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CRASHES ARE SOME OF THE MOST
10:04:14AM DANGEROUS ACCIDENTS THAT CAN OCCUR ON THE ROAD.
10:04:17AM PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLISTS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME PROTECTION OR
10:04:22AM IMPACT THAT A PERSON IN ANOTHER VEHICLE DOES.
10:04:25AM THEY ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD AT ANY GIVEN
10:04:31AM TIME AND BICYCLISTS ARE A CLOSE SECOND.
10:04:35AM AGAIN, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 94 CRASHES ON 40th STREET
10:04:38AM BETWEEN BUSCH BOULEVARD AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN 2018 AND
10:04:42AM A MINIMUM OF 84 CRASHES IN 2019.
10:04:45AM THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION
10:04:50AM DEPARTMENT PREMISE THAT ROUNDABOUTS REDUCE ACCIDENTS.
10:04:53AM I FIND IT DISTURBING THAT AN OVERWHELMING PERCENTAGE OF THE
10:04:59AM CRASHES OCCURRING ON 40th STREET ARE OCCURRING AT
10:05:03AM ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE DESIGNED INTERSECTIONS.
10:05:05AM ALSO, I FIND IT ALARMING THAT THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE
10:05:10AM 34th STREET ROUNDABOUTS DOESN'T APPEAR TO PLACE ENOUGH
10:05:14AM EMPHASIS ON CHILD SAFETY.
10:05:17AM HOW ARE CHILDREN GOING TO SAFELY CROSS INTERSECTIONS WITH
10:05:21AM ROUNDABOUTS TO GET TO THEIR DESTINATIONS?
10:05:24AM AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU TALK ABOUT DATA.
10:05:28AM YOU HAVE ALL THE DATA AVAILABLE TO YOU TO SHOW THAT THERE IS
10:05:32AM A CONTRADICTION IN THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED.
10:05:36AM I JUST ASK YOU TO AT LEAST PROVIDE THE EFFORT TO GET THE
10:05:41AM DATA SO YOU CAN MAKE WISE DECISIONS.
10:05:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:05:43AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:05:44AM NEXT, PLEASE.
10:05:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:05:50AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:05:52AM I WANT TO APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION ON THE STATE OF
10:05:57AM REGION REPORT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS A LAY PERSON
10:06:00AM UNITED TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN THAT BE IN 2020?
10:06:06AM HOW DO ALL THE INDICATORS, AS YOU TALK ABOUT TAMPA BEING THE
10:06:09AM NEXT GREAT CITY, A PROGRESSIVE CITY WITH THE NEW MAYOR, A
10:06:14AM NEW COUNCIL BOARD, AND WE ARE STILL IN THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY
10:06:20AM MOVING AT A SNAIL'S PACE.
10:06:24AM I'M JUST HOPING FOR YOUR SAKE, NOT FOR MINE, BECAUSE IT'S
10:06:30AM CLEAR.
10:06:31AM ORLANDO -- COUNCILMAN GUDES, HE SAYS THOSE WHO WANT TO BE
10:06:36AM CONTRIBUTORS AND THOSE WHO ARE COMMITTED.
10:06:40AM HE READ IT AGAINST AN ANALYSIS OF HAM AND CHEESE OMELET.
10:06:45AM HOW COMMITTED ARE YOU?
10:06:47AM YOU COULD BE THE EGG AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING, DO A
10:06:53AM LITTLE REPORT, COME OUT TO THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND SAY WE
10:06:56AM ARE TRYING, WE ARE WORKING, YOU CAN BE THE MILK TO THE EGG.
10:06:59AM BUT ARE YOU COMMITTED TO SEEING REAL CHANGE AND BEING THAT
10:07:03AM HAM WHERE YOU GIVE IT ALL?
10:07:06AM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING.
10:07:07AM GO BACK 60 YEARS AND THEN START BACK WHAT WAS ONCE CENTRAL
10:07:12AM AVENUE AND HOW WE LOST ALL OF THAT.
10:07:14AM AND THEN FAST-FORWARD TO HOW WE LOST RIVERFRONT PARK AND NOW
10:07:19AM IS THIS WONDERFUL 35 MILLION, A FACADE OUT THERE, NOT FOR
10:07:25AM AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:07:26AM AND THEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE INDICATORS THAT SAY POVERTY.
10:07:32AM WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING, THE SOARING PRICES OF HOUSING EVEN IN
10:07:36AM OUR COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU HAVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THOSE
10:07:39AM DEVELOPERS THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSES THAT WE CAN'T EVEN
10:07:41AM AFFORD.
10:07:43AM SPECTATORS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
10:07:47AM I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WHILE WE COME DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK AND
10:07:52AM YOU THINK AND YOU ALL MIGHT THINK WELL THEY ARE JUST BLOWING
10:07:55AM OFF STEAM, WE PLAN ON CHANGING THE CONDITION OF OUR
10:07:57AM COMMUNITY.
10:07:58AM THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
10:07:59AM IF FIVE OF YOU ALL HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE AND STRENGTH THAT
10:08:03AM WHEN YOU SEE AN AGENDA THAT DO NOT REFLECT TO LIFTING THE
10:08:08AM AFRICAN COMMUNITY, SEND IT BACK TO THE MAYOR.
10:08:13AM SEND IT BACK TO HER.
10:08:14AM I DON'T WANT TO HEAR NO MORE THIS IS A STRONG ARM OF
10:08:17AM GOVERNMENT AND THE MAYOR GOT ALL POWER.
10:08:19AM YOU KNOW WHY I KNOW THAT IS A LIE?
10:08:22AM BECAUSE SHE HAS TO COME TO US FOR A VOTE.
10:08:25AM AND COMING TO US FOR A VOTE, MOVING HENCEFORWARD FOR
10:08:29AM EVERYBODY IS ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:08:31AM THANK YOU.
10:08:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:08:35AM NEXT, PLEASE.
10:08:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:08:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, BISHOP, FOR ONE SECOND, IS ANYONE
10:08:42AM ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:08:43AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:08:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:08:46AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:08:48AM I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER.
10:08:51AM POVERTY IS BIG BUSINESS.
10:08:52AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET CLEAR.
10:08:54AM NOBODY IS REALLY INTERESTED IN MOVING THE NEEDLE.
10:08:57AM YOU ASK WHY WE'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION, PEOPLE HAVING
10:09:00AM THREE, FOUR JOBS, IT'S BECAUSE THE GOALPOSTS KEEP BEING
10:09:04AM MOVED.
10:09:05AM IF YOU KEEP RAISING THE HOUSING STANDARDS, THE COST OF
10:09:08AM HOUSING, A PERSON CAN NEVER AFFORD IT.
10:09:11AM WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:09:13AM WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
10:09:14AM NOBODY IS REALLY TRYING TO SEE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN JACKSON
10:09:19AM HEIGHT, BELMONT HEIGHTS TRYING TO GET FROM PLACE TO PLACE.
10:09:22AM THERE IS A NEWS ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT ABOUT MEMORIAL PARK
10:09:26AM CEMETERY, THAT THE OWNER HAS DIED AND THEY WANT TO
10:09:30AM RELINQUISH THE PARK.
10:09:32AM THE CITY IS SAYING, HEY, THAT'S NOT OUR ISSUE, BUT IT IS IN
10:09:35AM THE CRA.
10:09:36AM SO THERE IS MONEY IN THE CRA, AND THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING
10:09:41AM DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT PARK, THE CEMETERY DO NOT BECOME
10:09:45AM ANOTHER ZION CEMETERY.
10:09:48AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
10:09:52AM WE CAN PUT THE EFFORT TOGETHER.
10:09:54AM THE OTHER THING IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
10:09:57AM NOW, I HEARD WITH THE STUDY THEY TALK ABOUT CHILDREN.
10:10:01AM BUT IF OUR CHILDREN CAN'T HAVE THE MODERN TECHNOLOGY, CAN'T
10:10:05AM SEE AND HAVE THE SAME THING THAT OTHER PARTS OF THIS CITY
10:10:09AM HAVE, HOW CAN OUR CHILDREN GROW TO BECOME PRODUCTIVE
10:10:12AM CITIZENS?
10:10:13AM WE KEEP WANTING TO PUT BAND-AIDS ON PROBLEMS THAT SHOULD NOT
10:10:18AM BE.
10:10:18AM TONIGHT AT 7 P.M., I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ALL CARE
10:10:22AM ENOUGH TO COME AND HIT A CITIZEN AT FAIR OAKS TONIGHT, BUT
10:10:26AM AT 7 P.M., YOU ALL SHOULD BE THERE TO HEAR WHAT THE CITIZENS
10:10:32AM ARE SAYING.
10:10:32AM WE'RE ALL TAXPAYERS.
10:10:34AM NOBODY IS UP HERE BEGGING FOR ANYTHING.
10:10:36AM WE'RE ASKING FOR JUST DO.
10:10:39AM SIMPLE AS THAT.
10:10:39AM WE PAID TAXES.
10:10:42AM WE WANT OUR PARTS OF TOWN TO LOOK LIKE DAVIS ISLAND, SOUTH
10:10:46AM TAMPA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
10:10:48AM SO WE'RE ASKING THAT FAIR OAKS BE FAST TRACKED, THAT IT BE
10:10:54AM DEMOLISHED, THAT IT BE REBUILT SO THAT CHILDREN CAN HAVE A
10:10:57AM SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
10:10:59AM YOU ALL DON'T ATTEND THE FUNERALS I ATTEND.
10:11:02AM YOU DON'T PREACH THE FUNERALS THAT I DO THAT ARE OUT IN THAT
10:11:05AM AREA BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE BEING SHOT AND KILLED, AND THEN
10:11:08AM EVERYBODY SAY, OH, WHAT A SHAME.
10:11:10AM BUT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
10:11:13AM THAT STUDY CAME HERE.
10:11:15AM IT HAS SAID WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING OVER AND OVER AND OVER,
10:11:20AM NOW IT'S LIKE, WHOA, IT'S FOR REAL.
10:11:23AM IT'S ALWAYS BEEN REAL.
10:11:24AM WE'VE BEEN TELLING IT.
10:11:25AM IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE NOT WHITE, AND NOW MAYBE THAT THE WHITE
10:11:29AM MEN HAVE COME BEFORE YOU AND SAID IT, MAYBE NOW PEOPLE WILL
10:11:33AM SAY, MHMM, THEY BEEN ON TO SOMETHING ALL THE TIME.
10:11:37AM BUT AT THIS POINT, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL DO TO MAKE A
10:11:40AM DIFFERENCE?
10:11:41AM AND I HAVE A LITTLE CONFIDENCE IN YOU ALL.
10:11:44AM I FEEL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND WE'RE
10:11:46AM GOING TO GET THINGS DONE.
10:11:47AM THANK YOU.
10:11:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:11:49AM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:11:52AM YES, SIR.
10:11:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 4, I DID PREPARE THE
10:11:55AM CORRECTED RESOLUTION IF YOU COULD MOVE THE RULES, PLEASE.
10:11:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT?
10:11:59AM COUNCILMAN CITRO MOTION.
10:12:00AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:12:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:12:03AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:12:03AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:12:04AM ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
10:12:08AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:12:11AM THERE BEING APPARENTLY NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO COMMITTEE
10:12:13AM REPORTS, CONSENT AGENDA.
10:12:14AM LET'S MOVE TO NUMBER 7.
10:12:15AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF FOR NUMBER 7?
10:12:18AM NO ONE FROM STAFF.
10:12:20AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON NUMBER 7?
10:12:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THERE IS A REQUEST
10:12:28AM FOR A CONTINUANCE, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:12:31AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:12:32AM I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 20th.
10:12:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:12:36AM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT?
10:12:38AM OKAY, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:12:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:12:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:12:42AM LET'S MOVE NOW TO NUMBER 8.
10:12:46AM ANYONE HERE FOR NUMBER 8?
10:12:48AM >> YES.
10:12:49AM GOOD MORNING, JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:12:52AM I AM HERE AND DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, MIKE
10:12:55AM CHUCRAN IS HERE REGARDING ITEM 8 ON THE AGENDA.
10:12:59AM ITEM 8 IS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE THAT AMENDS SECTION
10:13:03AM 2-280 OF THE CITY CODE TO INCREASE THE THRESHOLD AMOUNT FOR
10:13:09AM WHICH WORK ORDERS ARE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND WORK
10:13:12AM ORDERS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS DEFINED IN THE
10:13:14AM CONSULTANT COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION ACT.
10:13:16AM MIKE CHUCRAN IS HERE TO OFFER A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE
10:13:20AM ITEM.
10:13:22AM THANK YOU.
10:13:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:13:26AM MIKE CHUCRAN, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
10:13:28AM WE ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND SECTION 2-280 WHICH WAS
10:13:32AM ESTABLISHED IN 1995.
10:13:34AM THIS IS IN ORDER TO GAIN MORE EFFICIENCIES WITHIN THE
10:13:37AM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT AND ALSO TO STREAMLINE
10:13:39AM THE WORK ORDER PROCESSES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
10:13:42AM AND WITH THE RECENT APPROVAL OF THE PIPES PROGRAM AND ALSO
10:13:45AM THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION IS
10:13:49AM ANTICIPATING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN WORKLOAD FOR THE
10:13:53AM DEPARTMENT.
10:13:54AM THAT'S DRIVEN BY THOSE PROGRAMS.
10:13:56AM WE'RE LOOKING TO AMEND SECTION 280 WHICH WOULD REDUCE STAFF
10:14:01AM TIME AND ALLOW MORE EFFICIENT OPERATIONS.
10:14:03AM FOR EXAMPLE, CALENDAR YEAR 2019, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
10:14:06AM EXECUTED 80 WORK ORDERS.
10:14:08AM OF THOSE 80 WORK ORDERS, 46 OF THOSE FELL WITHIN THE CURRENT
10:14:12AM THRESHOLD OF SECTION 2-280.
10:14:14AM THAT REQUIRED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
10:14:16AM THAT'S 58% OF ALL THE TOTAL WORK ORDERS.
10:14:20AM THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL PROCESS REQUIRES US TO INPUT INTO
10:14:24AM THE SIRE SYSTEM SO THEY CAN BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
10:14:28AM SUBSEQUENT CITY -- AND AFTER SUBSEQUENT CITY COUNCIL
10:14:31AM APPROVAL, THERE IS A WAIT TIME FOR RELEASE OF THOSE
10:14:34AM RESOLUTIONS.
10:14:35AM SO THIS PROCESS ADDS APPROXIMATELY 44 DAYS TO THE WORK ORDER
10:14:40AM PROCESS.
10:14:41AM SO, THEREFORE, BY AMENDING SECTION 2-280, WE'RE LOOKING TO
10:14:46AM INCREASE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION'S EFFICIENCY AND
10:14:50AM EFFECTIVENESS IN SUPPORTING THE USER DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO TO
10:14:53AM ENSURE THAT THE USER DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO
10:14:55AM UTILIZE THE CONSULTANT SERVICES MORE RAPIDLY.
10:14:59AM ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE AGREEABLE TO ESTABLISH THE THRESHOLD AT
10:15:02AM $100,000 TO EFFECTUATE AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY JUSTIN
10:15:07AM VASKE HAS DRAFTED A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE, WHICH HE CAN
10:15:11AM PRESENT TO COUNCIL IMMEDIATELY.
10:15:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:15:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:15:17AM JUSTIN, THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
10:15:19AM BASICALLY, THE PURCHASING CONTRACTS WE'VE ALREADY DELEGATED
10:15:26AM TO THE $100,000 AMOUNT, AND STAFF, THROUGH THE CONTRACTS
10:15:31AM ADMINISTRATION FOLKS, ARE ASKING US TO BRING THEM UP FROM
10:15:35AM 50,000 TO 100,000, WHICH I THINK IS FAIR AND FINE.
10:15:38AM SO I'LL MOVE THE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, THE SUBSTITUTE
10:15:43AM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.
10:15:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:15:45AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:15:47AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN --
10:15:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THIS SOMETHING I HAVE TO READ?
10:15:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, READ THE TITLE.
10:15:53AM [INAUDIBLE]
10:15:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL READ THE TITLE.
10:15:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT SUBSTITUTE.
10:15:59AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:16:00AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:16:01AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:16:03AM SHOULD HE READ IT NOW?
10:16:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
10:16:07AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:16:09AM FLORIDA, AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 2,
10:16:12AM ADMINISTRATION, ARTICLE V, DIVISION III, PURCHASES AND
10:16:16AM CONTRACTS, SECTION 2-280; SAID AMENDMENT BEING NECESSARY TO
10:16:20AM INCREASE THE THRESHOLD AMOUNT FOR WHICH WORK ORDERS ARE
10:16:22AM APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND PROVIDING THAT SAID WORK ORDERS
10:16:25AM ARE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS DEFINED IN SECTION 287.055,
10:16:31AM FLORIDA STATUTES; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10:16:35AM CONFLICT; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:16:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:16:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
10:16:41AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:16:42AM ANY IN FAVOR?
10:16:45AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:16:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, HAND IN HAND WITH THIS
10:16:48AM DELEGATION AND I KNOW YOU LIKE MOTIONS AT THE END, BUT I'M
10:16:50AM GOING TO ASK FOR A LITTLE LEEWAY ON IT.
10:16:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: ACTING CHAIR MANISCALCO --
10:16:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GRANT THAT TO YOU.
10:16:58AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, YOUR HIGHNESS.
10:17:01AM ANYWAY, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE -- LET ME BACK UP.
10:17:06AM WHY ARE WE HERE?
10:17:08AM WHY IS COUNCIL HERE?
10:17:09AM WE ARE HERE AS AN OVERSIGHT TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE
10:17:12AM WORK HAND IN HAND WITH YOU ON MANY, MANY ISSUES.
10:17:15AM WHEN WE SEE THESE CONTRACTS, AND NOW IT WILL BE ANYTHING
10:17:18AM OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT AND
10:17:21AM WE SCRUTINIZE ARE THE WMBE ISSUES, THE SOLE-SOURCE ISSUES.
10:17:26AM THOSE ARE THE DAY-TO-DAY THINGS THAT YOU HEAR FROM US.
10:17:29AM I THINK THOSE ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
10:17:32AM I THINK THAT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT WE PLAY ON
10:17:34AM BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE ARE THE EYES AND THE EARS
10:17:37AM OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:17:38AM AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT NOT DELEGATING TOO
10:17:42AM MUCH, BUT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND BECAUSE
10:17:46AM IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN PURCHASING OVER THE
10:17:48AM YEARS.
10:17:49AM WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO SEE -- I KNOW THAT YOU
10:17:54AM GUYS HAVE OFFERED AND I APPRECIATE IT, TO GIVE US A LIST,
10:17:58AM THE WAY THAT PURCHASING DOES, OF THESE ARE THE HUNDRED
10:18:01AM THOUSAND DOLLAR OR LESS CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE
10:18:04AM LAST, QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING.
10:18:07AM GIVE US THAT LIST, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE US TO SEE NEXT TO
10:18:12AM THAT WHAT THE WMBE COMPONENT IS AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT IT
10:18:16AM IS A SOLE SOURCE, SINGLE SOURCE, SOLE SOURCE, THAT SORT OF
10:18:21AM THING, IF THERE ARE ANY UNUSUAL EXCEPTIONS OR CCNA
10:18:25AM COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION, WHATEVER, MAKE A COLUMN THAT WOULD
10:18:30AM TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT, SO I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO
10:18:34AM DO IT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
10:18:35AM I THINK YOU GET THE IDEA.
10:18:36AM I THINK WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THAT.
10:18:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:18:42AM NO MOTION.
10:18:44AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
10:18:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:18:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:49AM >> THANK YOU.
10:18:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS,
10:18:54AM CONSENT AGENDA.
10:18:54AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY
10:18:57AM COMMITTEE.
10:18:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:18:59AM I MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 9 THROUGH 14.
10:19:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:19:05AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:19:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:19:08AM ALL RIGHT.
10:19:08AM NEXT UP WE HAVE PARKS, REC, AND CULTURAL COMMITTEE WITH
10:19:11AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:19:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 25.
10:19:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:19:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES,
10:19:21AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:19:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:19:24AM ALL RIGHT.
10:19:24AM NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE WITH COUNCILMAN
10:19:26AM DINGFELDER.
10:19:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I'LL MOVE ITEMS 26
10:19:30AM THROUGH 32.
10:19:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
10:19:33AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:19:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:19:36AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:19:37AM NOW WE GO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:19:39AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS NOT HERE, SO IT GOES TO COUNCILMAN
10:19:41AM CITRO AS VICE-CHAIR.
10:19:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS 33 THROUGH 37.
10:19:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:19:48AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:19:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:19:51AM ALL RIGHT.
10:19:51AM NEXT UP.
10:19:53AM WE HAVE BUILDING, ZONING AND PRESERVATION WITH COUNCILMAN
10:19:57AM CARLSON.
10:19:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE ITEMS 38 THROUGH 47.
10:20:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE SUBSTITUTES ON THAT 38 AND
10:20:04AM 40.
10:20:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDING THE SUBSTITUTES.
10:20:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THE CLERK CAN CONFIRM SO
10:20:11AM IT'S CLEAR, A SUBSTITUTE ON 38, A SUBSTITUTE ON 40.
10:20:15AM ON YOUR ADDENDUM, A SUBSTITUTE ON 41.
10:20:19AM AND THEN THERE'S 45.
10:20:21AM ARE THERE ANY OTHERS?
10:20:24AM THAT'S IT.
10:20:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION INCLUDING SUBSTITUTION FOR 38, 41, 40
10:20:32AM AND 45.
10:20:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:20:34AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:20:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:20:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:40AM I CAN'T DO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE SO WE GIVE IT TO
10:20:43AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, VICE-CHAIR.
10:20:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE 48 THROUGH 51.
10:20:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:20:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:20:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:54AM ALL RIGHT.
10:20:54AM NOW WE HAVE ITEMS 52 THROUGH 56, WHICH ARE BEING SET FOR
10:20:59AM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:20:59AM CAN I GET A MOTION ON THOSE?
10:21:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO OPEN.
10:21:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 52 THROUGH 56 MOVE TO SET FOR PUBLIC
10:21:13AM HEARING PURSUANT TO THE AGENDA.
10:21:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:21:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:21:18AM DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:21:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:21:21AM WE ARE AT 10:21.
10:21:24AM WE CAN'T OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO LET'S GO TO --
10:21:29AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A SECOND THOUGHT
10:21:33AM ABOUT WHAT I SAID BEFORE THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO A MOTION.
10:21:35AM I ACTUALLY DO WANT TO DO A MOTION, THAT WAY NO MATTER WHAT
10:21:40AM ADMINISTRATION IS HERE AND NO MATTER WHAT COUNCIL IS HERE,
10:21:43AM IT WILL BE PERPETUALLY IN PLACE.
10:21:46AM AS RELATED TO ITEM 8, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE
10:21:53AM ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE A QUARTERLY REPORT OF CONTRACTS THAT
10:22:02AM ARE $100,000 OR LESS AND TO PROVIDE THAT QUARTERLY REPORT TO
10:22:10AM CITY COUNCIL ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, BUT ALSO TO INCLUDE THE
10:22:14AM WMBE PERCENTAGE AS WELL AS TO IDENTIFY ANY UNUSUAL
10:22:20AM PURCHASING SITUATIONS SUCH AS SINGLE-SOURCE, SOLE-SOURCE,
10:22:25AM ET CETERA.
10:22:27AM AND ALSO, WITH THAT MOTION, TO MODIFY THE CURRENT QUARTERLY
10:22:31AM REPORT AS RELATED TO PURCHASING, BECAUSE THEY DO GIVE US A
10:22:34AM QUARTERLY REPORT FOR $100,000, BUT TO MODIFY THEIR
10:22:38AM PURCHASING REPORT TO ALSO INCLUDE ANY WMBE OR UNUSUAL ITEMS.
10:22:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID WE GET THAT MOTION DOWN?
10:22:48AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:22:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:22:50AM AGAIN, PUBLIC HEARINGS 10:30.
10:22:53AM IT IS NOT 10:30.
10:22:55AM WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS, IF WE CAN START WITH ITEM NUMBER
10:22:58AM 63.
10:23:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THOSE WERE DURING
10:23:08AM -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL.
10:23:11AM THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT I SEE STAFF HERE.
10:23:14AM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT HERE TO
10:23:18AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS ITEM.
10:23:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:23:21AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:23:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ERIC -- OH, NO, MY QUESTION WAS ON 64 AND
10:23:28AM I TALKED TO SOME OF YOUR STAFF.
10:23:31AM TELL US ABOUT 63.
10:23:34AM IT'S A BIG-TICKET ITEM.
10:23:35AM $3 MILLION.
10:23:37AM IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COST OR ARE WE COMING IN AT THE SAME
10:23:41AM PRICE?
10:23:42AM >>ERIC WEISS: 17% DECREASE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.
10:23:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU NEED TO NEGOTIATE ALL OF OUR RENEWALS
10:23:47AM CITYWIDE.
10:23:48AM >>ERIC WEISS: IT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED FROM THE
10:23:51AM MANUFACTURER.
10:23:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, GREAT.
10:23:53AM I MOVE 63.
10:23:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MOVING THE
10:23:57AM RESOLUTION FOR 63.
10:23:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: RELATED QUESTION.
10:24:02AM I KNOW THIS IS NOT EXACTLY YOUR AREA, BUT I'M TOLD BY WATER
10:24:06AM EXPERTS THAT THE CLOUDINESS THAT'S CAUSED BY MIXING THE
10:24:10AM TAMPA WATER WITH THE TAMPA BAY WATER IS A pH IMBALANCE AND
10:24:13AM THERE'S SOME KIND OF SUBSTANCE, CAUSTIC -- I'M NOT A
10:24:17AM SCIENTIST, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE SAME SUBSTANCE.
10:24:19AM I'M TOLD FOR MAYBE $200,000 EXTRA A YEAR IN TREATING OUR
10:24:23AM POTABLE WATER SUPPLY THAT WE COULD SOLVE THIS CLOUDINESS
10:24:28AM PROBLEM?
10:24:28AM SORRY, I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR AREA.
10:24:31AM >>ERIC WEISS: I DON'T.
10:24:32AM I WOULD DEFER TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
10:24:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 63 IS PENDING.
10:24:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
10:24:39AM DINGFELDER.
10:24:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:24:45AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:24:46AM I WAS OUTSIDE.
10:24:49AM WHAT'S THE MOTION?
10:24:51AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO APPROVE 63.
10:24:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
10:24:54AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:55AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:24:56AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 64.
10:25:01AM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, HERE TO
10:25:05AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS ITEM.
10:25:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I TALKED TO YOUR STAFF FOLKS, THE OTHER
10:25:09AM ERIC, ET CETERA, YESTERDAY ON THIS ITEM 64.
10:25:13AM AGAIN, IT'S A VERY LARGE-TICKET ITEM.
10:25:15AM I GUESS WE DO IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THE $6 MILLION.
10:25:19AM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DID SOME TESTING WITH SOME OF THE OTHER
10:25:21AM VENDORS AND THEY DIDN'T PASS THE TEST.
10:25:23AM SO, THEREFORE, IT FELL -- WE END UP WITH A SINGLE BIDDER,
10:25:28AM SINGLE RESPONSIVE BIDDER SITUATION.
10:25:31AM >>ERIC WEISS: YEAH, WHAT THIS CHEMICAL DOES IS HELP TAKE THE
10:25:34AM WATER OUT OF THE BIOSOLIDS BEFORE IT GOES FOR LAND
10:25:37AM APPLICATION.
10:25:37AM YOU WANT TO TAKE THE WATER OUT SO YOU DON'T TRUCK IT AND
10:25:41AM THEY'LL ACCEPT IT AT THE LAND APPLICATION SITE.
10:25:44AM SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CHEMICAL.
10:25:46AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT WORKS.
10:25:48AM SO WE HAVE THEM COME HAVE AN EIGHT-HOUR DAY WHERE THEY CAN
10:25:52AM COME WITH THEIR PRODUCT INTO THE LAB AND TEST IT ON OUR
10:25:55AM BIOSOLIDS, OUR SLUDGE.
10:25:58AM THREE OF THEM CAME.
10:25:59AM ONLY ONE HAD PASSED.
10:26:01AM WE THEN PUT THAT OUT TO BID.
10:26:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS GROSS PRICE OF
10:26:08AM 6,340,000 IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE
10:26:12AM PAST?
10:26:13AM >>ERIC WEISS: YEAH, WE'RE ONLY DOING ABOUT 1.2 MILLION A
10:26:16AM YEAR, BUT THERE IS THEORETICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET A LOT
10:26:20AM OF FLOW, THIS YEAR, A REALLY RAINY YEAR, IT COULD BE HIGHER.
10:26:25AM WE'RE COVERING OUR BASE IN CASE WE DO GET THOSE HIGH FLOWS.
10:26:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WHAT THEY TOLD ME WAS THAT
10:26:30AM BECAUSE IT'S SO GOOD AT REMOVING WATER, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE
10:26:33AM MONEY ON THE BACK END.
10:26:35AM >>ERIC WEISS: CORRECT.
10:26:35AM BECAUSE YOU HAVE LESS TRUCKING COST.
10:26:37AM TRUCKING COST IS BASED ON THE VOLUME THAT YOU TAKE.
10:26:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE ITEM 64.
10:26:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:26:44AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:26:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:47AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:26:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:26:50AM NEXT WE HAVE 65.
10:26:52AM ANYONE HERE FOR 65?
10:26:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE ITEM 65.
10:26:58AM I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
10:27:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:27:02AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:05AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:05AM 66, MR. DIAL.
10:27:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST IN REGARD TO 65, MR. CHAIR.
10:27:12AM I KNOW -- PROBABLY THE REST OF COUNCIL PERHAPS BEEN OUT
10:27:18AM THERE AT THE CareATC CENTER ON HIMES OR ELSEWHERE, YOU
10:27:25AM KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM.
10:27:27AM IT SORT OF GOES BACK TO THE MUTUAL AID SOCIETIES WHERE WE
10:27:30AM HAVE AN ORGANIZATION.
10:27:31AM WE SORT OF DO PROACTIVE PREVENTIVE HEALTH CARE ON A SMALL
10:27:37AM LEVEL, BUT HOPEFULLY IT KEEPS OUR COSTS DOWN IN THE BIGGER
10:27:41AM PICTURE.
10:27:41AM SO ANYWAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY TWEAKED THAT UP AND ADDED AN
10:27:47AM ADDITIONAL PERSON AT THAT FACILITY, SO THAT'S WHY THE PRICE
10:27:50AM IS ADJUSTED.
10:27:51AM BUT I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE.
10:27:53AM I'M GLAD WE APPROVED 65.
10:27:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:27:56AM MR. DIAL.
10:27:56AM >>PAUL DIAL: GOOD MORNING.
10:27:58AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO THE FOREST HILLS PROJECT SUMMARY AND
10:28:01AM THE STATUS OF THAT PROJECT.
10:28:03AM THIS IS REALLY A JOINT PROJECT WITH STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
10:28:07AM WHERE THERE WOULD BE A REMOVING OF MATERIAL FROM THE POND
10:28:11AM THAT IS AT THE LOCATION THERE.
10:28:13AM FILL GOING IN AS WELL.
10:28:14AM AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT RAISES THE ELEVATION AT THE
10:28:17AM LOCATION.
10:28:18AM SO THE AMENITIES THAT ARE THERE NOW, BASKETBALL COURTS,
10:28:22AM RACQUETBALL, THOSE FACILITIES HAVE TO BE IN ESSENCE RAZED,
10:28:27AM REMOVED AND RAZED DURING THE PROJECT TO BE PART OF THIS FOR
10:28:32AM FLOOD CONTROL AND FOR IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
10:28:34AM UNFORTUNATELY, THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, WHEN THE BIDS
10:28:38AM CAME IN, THERE AREN'T SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO COMPLETE IT AT
10:28:42AM THIS TIME.
10:28:42AM SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THERE ARE A FEW OPTIONS OF THE
10:28:47AM PROJECT BEING REBID AGAIN, AND IT HAS BEEN BID I BELIEVE A
10:28:50AM COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY WITH THIS.
10:28:54AM THE OTHER OPTION, THOUGH, AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE MASTER
10:28:56AM PLAN PROCESS, WE'LL BE WORKING IN THIS YEAR, WE CAN TAKE A
10:28:59AM LOOK AT THAT AS WELL AGAIN AND MAKE SURE OF ANY OF THE
10:29:04AM IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND THE PUBLIC PROCESSES OR ANY OTHER
10:29:06AM TWEAKS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE AT THE TIME DURING THE MASTER
10:29:09AM PLAN PROCESS, BUT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR REBIDDING THAT
10:29:12AM OR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO
10:29:14AM DO THAT AND REBID THE PROJECT.
10:29:16AM BUT AT THIS TIME, THE BIDS HAVE EXPIRED WITH THE PROJECT,
10:29:21AM AND CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE -- WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MASTER
10:29:24AM PLAN PROCESS TO REEVALUATE IT AT THIS TIME.
10:29:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:29:30AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:29:31AM >>PAUL DIAL: THAT'S IT.
10:29:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. DIAL.
10:29:33AM IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN, JUST REAL QUICK BEFORE THAT, IF I MAY,
10:29:37AM I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN
10:29:40AM IN THE BUDGET FOR A WHILE.
10:29:42AM I KNOW LONG BEFORE YOU CAME IN.
10:29:44AM THIS THING WAS PROBABLY PASSED WHEN SCOTT PAINE WAS DISTRICT
10:29:47AM 7 CITY COUNCILMAN.
10:29:49AM THAT'S A JOKE, BUT REALLY BACK IN THE DAY, SO TO SPEAK.
10:29:52AM IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
10:29:53AM THIS THING CONTINUES TO BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.
10:29:55AM I KNOW THERE ARE STORMWATER CHALLENGES THAT HAVE DELAYED
10:29:59AM THIS.
10:29:59AM MY UNDERSTANDING WAS -- PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG --
10:30:02AM WITH THE FUNDS YOU HAVE IN THERE NOW, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE
10:30:05AM THE STORMWATER CHALLENGES AND ADDRESS THOSE, THAT WOULDN'T
10:30:08AM LEAVE ANY FUNDS LEFT OVER FOR THE ACTUAL REC OR PARK
10:30:13AM IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:30:14AM >>PAUL DIAL: THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, CORRECT, WE HAVE A
10:30:17AM DEFICIT IN THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
10:30:19AM IN ESSENCE, YOU WOULD BE LOSING THE AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE
10:30:21AM NOW BECAUSE OF THE GRADING AND ELEVATION CHANGE.
10:30:24AM AND YOU WOULD HAVE NONE OF THOSE FACILITIES TO COME BACK TO
10:30:27AM THE SITE.
10:30:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: I REALLY SINCERELY -- LET ME ASK YOU, WITH THE
10:30:33AM FUNDS THAT WERE APPROPRIATED IN THIS MOST RECENT BUDGET,
10:30:36AM WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO MAKE THE
10:30:39AM KIND OF INVESTMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS PROMISED YEARS AGO
10:30:43AM AND TAKE CARE OF THE STORMWATER NEEDS THAT WEREN'T
10:30:45AM FORESEEABLE WHEN WE PASSED THIS?
10:30:47AM >>PAUL DIAL: WELL, ANYTIME YOU BID A PROJECT, YOU HAVE A NEW
10:30:51AM NUMBER THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS POINT.
10:30:53AM SO TO SAY WHAT IT WOULD BE UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THAT BIDDING
10:30:57AM PROCESS, WE WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT WE KNOW WITH THE PLANNING IN
10:31:02AM PLACE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE TO DO THAT.
10:31:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, YOURSELF,
10:31:07AM OBVIOUSLY, CHIEF BENNETT, AMONG OTHERS, IN TRYING TO MAKE
10:31:10AM SURE THAT THIS IS FULLY FUNDED WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE
10:31:13AM NOW HAVE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
10:31:15AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY, I THINK THREE YEARS AGO,
10:31:17AM TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD OUR FIRST COMMUNITY
10:31:21AM MEETING ON THIS IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF ITEMS WERE GOING TO
10:31:24AM BE INCLUDED IN THE REC CENTER IMPROVEMENTS.
10:31:26AM HERE WE ARE THREE YEARS LATER AND STILL NOTHING.
10:31:28AM AGAIN, STORMWATER ISSUES NOT FORESEEABLE, BUT WHEN I GO AND
10:31:33AM TALK TO MY GOOD FRIENDS AT FOREST HILLS OUT THERE, IT'S
10:31:36AM DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO SWALLOW, SO TO SPEAK, INCLUDING THEN
10:31:39AM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING
10:31:41AM TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ROAD REPAVING,
10:31:45AM THAT ALSO HAS BEEN DELAYED.
10:31:46AM FOREST HILLS IS HAVING THE WORST LUCK IN THE WORLD WHENEVER
10:31:49AM IT COMES TO GETTING THE PROJECTS THROUGH.
10:31:50AM I REALLY HOPE, MR. DIAL, THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THIS
10:31:53AM THING CAN BE FULLY FUNDED SO THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE OF FOREST
10:31:57AM HILLS HAVE THEIR IMPROVEMENTS.
10:32:01AM THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS REALLY A WORKING COMMUNITY.
10:32:03AM IT IS A MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS, BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITY
10:32:06AM WHERE PEOPLE WORK HARD.
10:32:08AM THEY SEND THEIR KIDS TO THE REC CENTER, AND THEY WANT TO SEE
10:32:10AM THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THAT REC CENTER HAS REALLY,
10:32:13AM REALLY FALLEN BEHIND.
10:32:14AM I'M HOPEFUL WE CAN GET IT FUNDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
10:32:17AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:32:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION,
10:32:22AM MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS.
10:32:25AM THE REC CENTER VERSUS THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
10:32:28AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED ON AT FIRST.
10:32:31AM NOW I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.
10:32:33AM WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE RECREATION CENTERS.
10:32:37AM THAT IS A TOP ITEM THIS YEAR.
10:32:39AM I THINK IN THE UPCOMING YEAR WITH THIS MASTER PLAN, THAT WE
10:32:42AM MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING MONEY ASIDE TO UPGRADE THE PARKS AND
10:32:45AM RECREATION.
10:32:46AM IT IS A BIG THING.
10:32:47AM WE'RE UPGRADING PIPES NOW, AND WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT DOING
10:32:51AM SOMETHING TO WHERE WE UPGRADE TO WHERE PEOPLE WORK AND PLAY
10:32:55AM AT IN THE PARKS.
10:32:55AM YOUR SLOGAN, IT ALL STARTS IN THE PARK.
10:32:58AM WELL, IF IT STARTS IN THE PARK, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE PUT
10:33:00AM THE MONEY TO THE PARKS.
10:33:01AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:33:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:33:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE YOU'RE HERE, I SPOKE TO THE SOUTH
10:33:06AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGARDING THE
10:33:09AM DOCKS AT RIVERCREST.
10:33:10AM I KNOW WE APPROVED FUNDING IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, LOWRY PARK
10:33:13AM AND WHATNOT, BUT IS THERE A TIMETABLE ON ANYTHING, WHEN
10:33:17AM EITHER THEY WILL BE DEMOLISHED, ANYTHING AT ALL?
10:33:22AM >>PAUL DIAL: UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION'S GUIDANCE, WE ARE
10:33:24AM MOVING FORWARD THAT WILL BE HAPPENING PROBABLY THE NEXT FEW
10:33:28AM MONTHS, THAT THEY WILL BE REMOVED, THE ONES THAT ARE ON-SITE
10:33:32AM THERE AND THE FENCING AND ALL THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE
10:33:36AM THOSE.
10:33:36AM WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE FUNDING WE HAVE LEFT AFTER A COUPLE
10:33:39AM OF OTHER DOCK PROJECTS, TO BE ABLE TO DO IT THIS YEAR TO
10:33:44AM START ON THAT PROJECT WELL OR WE'LL BE PUTTING A REQUEST IN
10:33:47AM INTO THE NEXT FY '21 REQUEST TO ADD THOSE BACK.
10:33:50AM BUT WE ARE AT LEAST LOOKING TO HAVE THE SAFETY AND UNSIGHTLY
10:33:54AM ISSUE THERE TAKEN CARE OF.
10:33:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:33:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID,
10:34:02AM I KNOW YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A PLAN.
10:34:04AM IS THE BUDGET -- I NEED TO MEET WITH YOU AND ASK YOU A LOT
10:34:08AM MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
10:34:09AM BUT IS THE BUDGET FOR PARKS SIMILAR TO THE ROAD BUDGET WHERE
10:34:13AM IDEALLY WE WOULD BE REPAVING EVERY 25 YEARS BUT WE'RE DOING
10:34:21AM IT AT 75 YEARS.
10:34:23AM ARE WE DOING BASIC MAINTENANCE, DO WE HAVE MUCH OF A BUDGET?
10:34:26AM IS IT GROWING?
10:34:27AM HOW DO WE SET THE EQUITY PRIORITIES ACROSS THE COMMUNITY FOR
10:34:30AM WHATEVER BUDGET?
10:34:32AM >>PAUL DIAL: WELL, I THINK THE MASTER PLAN HAPPENING THIS
10:34:34AM YEAR IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
10:34:37AM LET US SEE WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND
10:34:41AM THERE IS A PRICE TAG TO THAT.
10:34:42AM THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE.
10:34:44AM THE BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT HAS INCREASED, MORE
10:34:47AM RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT ALSO WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS AND ALL
10:34:50AM THAT GOES INTO THE POINT OF, ARE WE SUFFICIENTLY FUNDED TO
10:34:56AM DO WHAT THE WILL OF THE CITY IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:35:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION AND I'LL TALK TO
10:35:03AM YOU LATER.
10:35:04AM SIMILAR TO FAIR OAKS, I THINK YOU SAID WE COULD RENOVATE FOR
10:35:07AM 100,000.
10:35:07AM REPLACE FOR 3 MILLION, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE
10:35:10AM COMMUNITY CENTER.
10:35:11AM IF WE WERE TO DO KIND OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE
10:35:14AM PLAN IS DONE, EVERYTHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO ON THE
10:35:17AM EXISTING PARKS, IS THERE A BIG NUMBER OUT THERE?
10:35:19AM >>PAUL DIAL: THERE IS NOT.
10:35:22AM AGAIN, WE NEED THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH THAT.
10:35:26AM IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULD BE SIMPLY DOING OURSELVES AS
10:35:29AM PRACTITIONERS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT PUBLIC
10:35:33AM INVOLVEMENT OF WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS ARE.
10:35:35AM SOME OF THOSE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL FACILITIES.
10:35:38AM ALL OF THAT ADDS TO THAT COST.
10:35:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:35:43AM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:35:47AM PAUL, THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.
10:35:49AM THE MASTER PLAN, YOU AND I DISCUSSED, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO
10:35:52AM AN RFP TO SELECT A VENDOR.
10:35:54AM WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS?
10:35:57AM >>PAUL DIAL: A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR THE
10:35:59AM SELECTION COMMITTEE HAS MOVED FORWARD THAT WILL BE
10:36:02AM CONSIDERED BY THE MAYOR.
10:36:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S ALREADY BEEN AN RFP?
10:36:07AM >>PAUL DIAL: YES, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS TO
10:36:09AM WHERE WE'VE DONE INTERVIEWS OF CONSULTING FIRMS AND THAT HAS
10:36:13AM GONE FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
10:36:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL SEE THAT HERE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH
10:36:16AM OR SO.
10:36:19AM >>PAUL DIAL: I DON'T HAVE THE DATE FOR THAT.
10:36:20AM BUT IT SHOULD BE SHORTLY.
10:36:22AM I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY.
10:36:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW YOU HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
10:36:27AM SORRY I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND IN REGARD TO SORT OF THE
10:36:32AM PRE-MASTER PLAN.
10:36:33AM DID WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS?
10:36:35AM >>PAUL DIAL: EIGHT OF THE MEETINGS.
10:36:37AM TWO PER DISTRICT.
10:36:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW WAS THE TURNOUT AND WHAT SORT OF
10:36:41AM FEEDBACK DID WE GET?
10:36:42AM WAS IT SUMMARIZED?
10:36:45AM >>PAUL DIAL: SOME WERE SPARSE.
10:36:46AM SOME DID BETTER THAN OTHERS.
10:36:47AM I BELIEVE BETWEEN MEETINGS AND SURVEYS FILLED OUT BECAUSE WE
10:36:51AM ALSO HAD A SURVEY ONLINE, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE
10:36:54AM HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT HAD GIVEN US THEIR COMMENTS TO DATE.
10:36:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT BAD.
10:36:59AM FINALLY, IMPACT FEE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WATER AND THE
10:37:06AM WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE.
10:37:07AM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A PARKS IMPACT FEE IN PLACE IN THE
10:37:11AM CITY.
10:37:12AM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- ASSUMING THAT'S TRUE, AND I
10:37:14AM BELIEVE IT IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE EXPLORED AS A
10:37:18AM VEHICLE TO HELP RAISE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY BY THE NEW
10:37:25AM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING INTO TOWN?
10:37:28AM IN OTHER WORDS, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING WHO DON'T
10:37:31AM UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS, WE HAVE A GREAT PARKS SYSTEM IN
10:37:36AM PLACE.
10:37:37AM WE'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE LAND AND THE FACILITIES
10:37:39AM AND THAT SORT OF THING OVER THE YEARS FOR FOLKS WHO ARE
10:37:44AM ALREADY HERE.
10:37:44AM WE'VE BEEN PAYING FOR THAT.
10:37:47AM FOLKS MOVING HERE, THE IMPACT FEE WOULD SAY, WHY DON'T YOU
10:37:50AM CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU BUY THAT CONDO OR WHEN YOU
10:37:53AM BUILD THAT NEW $600,000 HOUSE, CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT TO
10:37:56AM OUR PARK SYSTEM TO HELP US BUILD THAT NEXT BUILDING OR WHAT
10:38:02AM HAVE YOU?
10:38:03AM WHERE ARE WE ON THAT AND HAS THAT BEEN A SUBJECT OF
10:38:05AM DISCUSSION?
10:38:07AM >>PAUL DIAL: I'VE NOT BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS.
10:38:08AM I WOULD DEFER TO THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE ISSUE, THE CHIEF
10:38:12AM OF STAFF AND LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.
10:38:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT COME UP IN YOUR --
10:38:16AM >>PAUL DIAL: I HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS FOR
10:38:19AM THAT.
10:38:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THEM.
10:38:22AM I'LL SAVE THAT MOTION UNTIL THE END.
10:38:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:38:24AM BRINGING US BACK TO THE TOPIC THAT YOU WERE HERE FOR, THE
10:38:27AM FOREST HILLS ISSUE, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE'S A MASTER
10:38:31AM PLAN, OBVIOUSLY, FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
10:38:34AM THE WAY I SEE THIS FOREST HILLS REC CENTER, THIS ISN'T PART
10:38:37AM OF THE MASTER PLAN.
10:38:39AM THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED I THINK TWO YEARS BEFORE
10:38:41AM I GOT ON BOARD, ONE OR TWO YEARS BEFORE I GOT ON BOARD.
10:38:44AM THIS THING, POLITICALLY SPEAKING, IS ANCIENT HISTORY.
10:38:47AM WHEN I SAW THIS PROJECT BEING PUT ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S
10:38:51AM DISTRICT 7 PROJECTS FOR LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, I TOLD CHIEF
10:38:55AM BENNETT, THIS IS KIND OF REGIFTING.
10:38:57AM THIS THING WAS PASSED A WHILE AGO.
10:39:01AM GROUND SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN BROKEN ON THIS A WHILE AGO.
10:39:04AM AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE STORMWATER CHALLENGES THERE.
10:39:06AM THOSE THINGS WERE UNFORESEEABLE, ET CETERA.
10:39:09AM AGAIN, I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THE FUNDS TOGETHER SO
10:39:12AM THAT THIS COMMUNITY GETS THE REC CENTER IMPROVEMENTS THAT
10:39:15AM HAVE BEEN PROMISED, THAT IT ALREADY PAID ITS TAXES FOR YEARS
10:39:18AM AGO, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT CAN HAPPEN.
10:39:21AM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, MR. DIAL.
10:39:23AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:39:24AM FOR NUMBER 67, YOU WERE GOING TO DO A CONTINUANCE, SIR?
10:39:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
10:39:31AM LOOKING AT FEBRUARY 20th, 2020, TO CONTINUE THAT.
10:39:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:39:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:39:40AM ANY IN FAVOR?
10:39:41AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:39:41AM OKAY.
10:39:43AM NEXT IS I BELIEVE -- 68.
10:39:54AM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
10:39:56AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:58AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:40:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. DUNCAN IS HERE.
10:40:03AM MAYBE SHE CAN GIVE US THE ISLET SINCE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
10:40:07AM AND SOMETIMES CONTROVERSIAL AREA.
10:40:10AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: TALKING ABOUT THE STORMWATER REPORT?
10:40:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
10:40:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL REPORT WITH ME, BUT I
10:40:17AM CAN TELL YOU THAT THE FIVE, WHAT WE CALL THE BIG YELLOW
10:40:20AM DOTS, WHEN WE HAD THE GREAT SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL A FEW
10:40:23AM YEARS AGO TO PASS THE STORMWATER CAPITAL ASSESSMENT, ALL OF
10:40:26AM THOSE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF ACTIVITY GOING ON, WHICH IS
10:40:29AM OUTLINED IN THE REPORT.
10:40:30AM ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST EVER DESIGN-BUILD
10:40:36AM PROJECT, THE PENINSULA PROJECT, IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
10:40:40AM SPECIFIC PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT GIVES LOTS OF DETAILS AND
10:40:43AM UPDATES ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:40:45AM I APOLOGIZE, JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER
10:40:48AM SERVICES.
10:40:49AM THE CYPRESS STREET OUTFALL PROJECT, ONE OF THE OTHER, QUOTE,
10:40:55AM UNQUOTE, BIG YELLOW DOTS, ANOTHER MAJOR DESIGN-BUILD
10:40:58AM PROJECT.
10:40:59AM $30 MILLION, MORE OR LESS, IS ALSO ACTIVE.
10:41:02AM AND THERE'S SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THAT THAT'S
10:41:05AM AVAILABLE.
10:41:05AM WE'RE PLEASED THAT ALL OF THOSE BIG PROJECTS ARE UNDERWAY.
10:41:10AM WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE LITTLE YELLOW DOTS, WHICH ARE
10:41:14AM THE SMALLER CAPITAL PROJECTS.
10:41:15AM THE REPORT GIVES LOTS OF DETAIL OF THE LISTING OF THOSE, THE
10:41:20AM STATUS, AND I'M HAPPY TO GET WITH YOU, ANY OF YOU ONE ON ONE
10:41:27AM IF YOU WANT A BETTER SUMMARY OF YOUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR
10:41:29AM ANY PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, TO KIND
10:41:32AM OF DRILL DOWN IN THE REPORT AND GIVE SOME MORE DETAIL.
10:41:35AM BUT WE'RE REALLY PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS WE MADE FOR OUR
10:41:41AM PROGRAM SO FAR.
10:41:43AM I WANT TO TELL YOU, IT'S NOT JUST THE STORMWATER DIVISION.
10:41:46AM WE'VE GOT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT, THE
10:41:50AM PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
10:41:51AM WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE MAKING SURE THAT THIS INCREDIBLY
10:41:56AM LARGE STORMWATER PROGRAM IS STAYING ON TIME, ON BUDGET,
10:42:02AM BECAUSE WE DID ISSUE OUR VERY FIRST GREEN BOND ASSOCIATED
10:42:05AM WITH THIS PROJECT, WHICH MEANS WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AND
10:42:08AM OBLIGATED TO INCLUDE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR PROJECTS,
10:42:13AM WHICH HAS BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD MORE ENVIRONMENTAL
10:42:16AM SENSITIVITY AND WATER QUALITY TO THE PROJECT.
10:42:19AM ALL HANDS ARE ON DECK WITH YOUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THIS
10:42:24AM BIG IMPORTANT STORMWATER EFFORT IS KEPT ON SCHEDULE AND
10:42:30AM WE'RE DOTTING ALL OF OUR Is FOR ALL THE PROJECTS.
10:42:34AM WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF
10:42:37AM THINGS.
10:42:38AM A QUICK READER'S DIGEST ON THE REPORT THAT WE SEND TO YOU
10:42:41AM EVERY QUARTER.
10:42:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP, THANK YOU, JEAN, AND
10:42:47AM WE APPRECIATE BOTH YOUR WRITTEN AND PERSONAL REPORT AND ALL
10:42:50AM YOUR HARD WORK.
10:42:52AM SPEAKING OF YOUR HARD WORK, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A PERSONAL
10:42:54AM SHOUT-OUT.
10:42:56AM WHAT'S THE LADY'S NAME, THAT AWARD WE'RE GIVING YOU.
10:43:01AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE JOSEPHINE STAFFORD.
10:43:03AM YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STAFFORD WAS A LIFETIME EMPLOYEE OF THE
10:43:07AM CITY.
10:43:07AM I THINK SHE WAS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ONE OF THE
10:43:10AM FIRST WOMAN ATTORNEYS IN THE CITY AND SHE LEFT A GREAT
10:43:14AM LEGACY.
10:43:14AM EVERY YEAR WE AWARD TO A FEMALE EMPLOYEE THE JO STAFFORD
10:43:20AM AWARD.
10:43:20AM AND THIS COMING YEAR, YOU GOT IT.
10:43:22AM SO WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU AND YOUR HARD WORK OVER THE YEARS
10:43:27AM AND YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND WE LOOK FORWARD --
10:43:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:43:32AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
10:43:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:43:34AM I'M VERY HUMBLED BY THE AWARD AND THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT
10:43:38AM WOMEN IN THE CITY, IT'S JUST AMAZING THAT I FEEL VERY
10:43:41AM HONORED THAT I WAS SELECTED.
10:43:43AM THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE, SO TO SPEAK, OF
10:43:47AM GREAT WOMEN YOU HAVE WORKING FOR YOU.
10:43:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:48AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:43:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:43:51AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:53AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.
10:43:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:43:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:43:57AM OKAY.
10:43:58AM NEXT WE GO TO 69, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
10:44:04AM I'M SORRY.
10:44:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: IT WAS A WRITTEN REPORT AND APPEAR.
10:44:07AM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE REPORT THAT YOU GOT.
10:44:09AM IT WAS A LITTLE SKIMPY.
10:44:11AM IT WAS DONE ACTUALLY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A RUSH TO MEET A
10:44:15AM DEADLINE.
10:44:17AM I DID DO AN UPDATED VERSION.
10:44:19AM IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN HAND THAT TO YOU.
10:44:21AM I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE TO GET THINGS HANDED AT THE LAST
10:44:23AM MINUTE, BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE.
10:44:26AM JUST QUICKLY, JUST ADDING A LITTLE MORE DETAIL TO THE
10:44:36AM QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS, ONE
10:44:40AM BEING NORTH BOULEVARD AND COUNTRY CLUB AREA.
10:44:47AM WE HAD A PROJECT SCHEDULED IN THE AREA.
10:44:50AM WE ACTUALLY BROKE IT INTO TWO PIECES TO TRY TO BRING SOME
10:44:55AM EFFICIENCY TO THAT CORRIDOR AREA, AND I PUT SOME MORE DETAIL
10:45:00AM IN THIS LITTLE REPORT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.
10:45:03AM WE'VE TAKEN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMPONENT.
10:45:05AM WE'RE WORKING ON A REDESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT THE
10:45:09AM INTERSECTION OF COUNTRY CLUB AND NORTH BOULEVARD TO MAKE IT
10:45:12AM SAFER AND MORE UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS, ADD SOME TRAFFIC
10:45:17AM CALMING TO THE INTERSECTION AND SAFETY, AND WE WILL BE
10:45:21AM TAKING THAT PROJECT OUT SEPARATELY.
10:45:24AM THAT PROJECT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, THE RESURFACING AND NORTH
10:45:27AM BOULEVARD RESURFACING, ALL FUNDED IN OUR BUDGET FOR A
10:45:31AM MILLION DOLLARS.
10:45:32AM WE DECIDED TO TAKE THE NORTH BOULEVARD COMPONENT OUT, IF I
10:45:35AM COULD HOLD THIS UP VISUALLY FOR A SECOND TO GIVE YOU AN
10:45:40AM IDEA, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD CONCEPT DEVELOPED FOR THE NORTH
10:45:42AM BOULEVARD PROJECT.
10:45:45AM I CAN JUST KIND OF PUT A LITTLE BIT OF THIS ON THE ELMO FOR
10:45:50AM THE PUBLIC TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO
10:45:53AM THIS ALREADY.
10:45:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BACK IT OUT ON THE ZOOM.
10:46:03AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE'LL LEAVE THAT FOR NOW.
10:46:06AM JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS
10:46:09AM CORRIDOR AND WE'RE GOING TO BE INCORPORATING THIS PARTICULAR
10:46:12AM LEG OF THE PROJECT IN WITH OUR PIPES WORK GOING ON.
10:46:17AM WE'LL BE ADDING SIDEWALKS, OBVIOUSLY, RESURFACING THE ROAD,
10:46:22AM ADDING TRAFFIC CALMING.
10:46:23AM WE ANTICIPATE TO PROBABLY ADD AT LEAST NINE FLASHING BEACON
10:46:26AM INTERSECTIONS TO THIS CORRIDOR.
10:46:28AM SO A LOT OF THAT WILL OCCUR UNDER THE PIPES PROJECT, AS I
10:46:32AM SAID, UNDER THE COUNTRY CLUB PORTION.
10:46:34AM WE'RE GOING TO RESURFACE COUNTRY CLUB THIS YEAR WITH OUR
10:46:37AM IN-HOUSE TEAM, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PROGRESSING THE DESIGN
10:46:40AM OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
10:46:42AM RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 2021, POSSIBLY
10:46:50AM OCTOBER THIS YEAR.
10:46:51AM IF WE CAN ACCELERATE THE DESIGN, WE'LL ACCELERATE THE
10:46:53AM CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.
10:46:54AM LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
10:46:55AM I APOLOGIZE IT WASN'T IN YOUR ORIGINAL REPORT.
10:46:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FINE.
10:46:59AM MAY I HAVE A COPY OF THAT?
10:47:02AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: CERTAINLY, CAN I E-MAIL THIS TO ALL THE
10:47:04AM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:47:06AM THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
10:47:09AM ANYTIME YOU WANT TO GET MORE UPDATED ON THE PARTICULARS,
10:47:12AM PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
10:47:14AM I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
10:47:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: WAS IT STORMWATER OR PIPES CHALLENGES THAT
10:47:18AM SLOWED THIS DOWN?
10:47:20AM I THINK THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE I THINK A YEAR AGO,
10:47:23AM CORRECT?
10:47:24AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, PART OF THE REASON FOR THE DELAY WAS TO,
10:47:28AM AGAIN, GO OUT THERE ONE TIME, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT
10:47:32AM WITH ALL OF OUR WORK.
10:47:33AM BRAD BAIRD IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT IS THE
10:47:37AM M.O., THE PHILOSOPHY.
10:47:39AM WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT PHILOSOPHY BUT IT'S REALLY EVEN MORE
10:47:42AM IMPORTANT WITH ALL THE WORK WE HAVE COMING, IN ALL THE
10:47:44AM DOLLARS COMING IN.
10:47:45AM WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER.
10:47:51AM WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE UTILITY WORK OF WATER AND
10:47:54AM WASTEWATER, AND THEN GO OUT ONE TIME IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE
10:47:57AM AND GET ALL THAT WORK DONE, AND THEN WE CANNOT HAVE TO GO
10:48:02AM BACK AND SORT OF PATCHWORK QUILT, KEEP WORKING ON THINGS AT
10:48:07AM DIFFERENT TIMES.
10:48:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS COUNTRY CLUB PROJECT, WHEN IS IT EXPECTED
10:48:11AM TO HAVE A GROUND BREAKING ON IT, SO TO SPEAK?
10:48:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE COUNTRY CLUB?
10:48:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:48:16AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS TEAM
10:48:19AM PLANNING TO RESCHEDULE IT.
10:48:21AM I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC MONTH ON THAT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY
10:48:26AM GET THAT FOR YOU.
10:48:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS IT EXPECTED THIS YEAR I ASSUME?
10:48:30AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, THIS YEAR.
10:48:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: NORTH BOULEVARD, SO YOU'RE RIGHT NOW DOING A
10:48:34AM DESIGN FOR NORTH BOULEVARD.
10:48:35AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE'RE DOING A DESIGN FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT
10:48:37AM THE INTERSECTION.
10:48:39AM THE NORTH BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, WE HAVE AN RFP OUT FOR FOUR
10:48:45AM BIG AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, INCLUDING FOREST HILLS.
10:48:48AM SO THIS WORK WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT BIG RFP THAT'S BEEN
10:48:54AM PUT OUT ON THE STREET.
10:48:55AM I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DATES YET FOR THIS PARTICULAR ROAD
10:48:58AM BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY, BUT THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
10:49:00AM AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ONCE WE SELECT
10:49:04AM OUR CONTRACTOR AND GET THINGS UNDERWAY WITH THE CONSULTANT
10:49:07AM AND THE CONTRACTOR.
10:49:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IS THE CONTRACTOR GOING TO BE SELECTED
10:49:10AM ROUGHLY?
10:49:19AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:49:25AM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
10:49:27AM I'M SORRY.
10:49:28AM I WAS WORKING ON A PRESENTATION COMING UP.
10:49:29AM BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM, THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT
10:49:34AM THAT'S COMING OUT, WE WILL BE DOING THOSE SELECTIONS ON
10:49:38AM FEBRUARY 21st.
10:49:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE REPAVING NORTH,
10:49:43AM CORRECT?
10:49:43AM >>BRAD BAIRD: REPAVING IS PART OF EACH OF THOSE FOUR
10:49:48AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:49:48AM JUST AS A REMINDER, THE FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE FOREST HILLS,
10:49:51AM MacFARLANE PARK, EAST TAMPA, AND VIRGINIA PARK.
10:49:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:49:56AM THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
10:49:57AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:50:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, JEAN.
10:50:02AM AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AWARD.
10:50:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:50:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS.
10:50:07AM I'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE MYSELF AND LOOKED AT THE ROADS.
10:50:10AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR STAFF HAS DRIVEN OUT THERE AND LOOKED
10:50:13AM AT THE ROADS.
10:50:15AM YOU CAN SEE THE OLD, OLD SURFACE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THE
10:50:17AM DIRT IS.
10:50:18AM THEY ARE VERY, VERY BAD.
10:50:19AM I HAVE THE TEMPLE CHURCH CALLING ME CONSTANTLY ABOUT THOSE
10:50:23AM ROADS IN THAT AREA.
10:50:25AM I KNOW THAT THE EAST TAMPA CRA AT TIMES HAVE PUT MONEY
10:50:29AM TOWARDS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
10:50:31AM NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THAT AREA THERE IS PART OF THE YBOR CRA,
10:50:36AM I BELIEVE, IN THAT AREA.
10:50:38AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: OF FOREST HILLS?
10:50:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, NEBRASKA EAST --
10:50:43AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
10:50:45AM I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE BOUNDARY ON THAT.
10:50:47AM I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
10:50:49AM I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE DO USE CRA MONIES FROM TIME TO
10:50:53AM TIME, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY CHECK THAT.
10:50:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED TO CHECK THE BOUNDARY ON THAT ALSO,
10:50:57AM BUT I'M HOPING THAT YOUR STAFF IS GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND
10:51:00AM ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS ROAD BECAUSE TO ME IT'S IN HAZARDOUS
10:51:05AM CONDITION.
10:51:06AM I DON'T KNOW THE LAST TIME WE PAVED THAT AREA, BUT IT'S
10:51:12AM VERY, VERY BAD.
10:51:12AM WE NEED TO LOOK INTO WHEN WAS IT LAST PAVED.
10:51:16AM ALSO, IF IS IN A CRA ZONE, I KNOW YOU PARTNER WITH EAST
10:51:21AM TAMPA IN REFERENCE TO THOSE ROADS, AGAIN, I'M GETTING A LOT
10:51:24AM OF, A LOT OF HEAT FROM THE RESIDENTS SAYING NO ONE HAS COME
10:51:28AM THROUGH THERE IN A MULTITUDE OF YEARS.
10:51:30AM IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET A PROJECT
10:51:33AM WORKING AND YOU CAN COME BACK WITH A WRITTEN REPORT AND GIVE
10:51:36AM ME AN UPDATE ON THAT.
10:51:37AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I CERTAINLY WILL.
10:51:40AM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE REPORT, THE LAST BULLET, WE ARE
10:51:44AM UPDATING OUR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, WHICH IS BASICALLY
10:51:47AM THE CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT IN TERMS OF THE BASE, THE
10:51:50AM ASPHALT, THE CRACKS, THE AGE, ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS AND
10:51:54AM UPDATING OUR PRIORITIZATION LIST BECAUSE WE DO TRY TO
10:51:57AM ADDRESS THE WORST FIRST IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES.
10:52:00AM I WOULD IMAGINE THIS IS PROBABLY IN THAT CATEGORY.
10:52:03AM BUT THAT WILL GIVE US A BETTER TECHNICAL BASIS FOR WHY WE'RE
10:52:08AM DOING SOME ROADS NOW AND NOT SOME ROADS.
10:52:11AM BUT THAT'S ONGOING IN PARALLEL TO YOUR REQUEST YOU MADE AND
10:52:15AM CERTAINLY GET BACK TO YOU ON THESE PARTICULAR STREETS.
10:52:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU COULD HAVE ONE OF YOUR STAFF GO OUT
10:52:22AM THERE AND EXAMINE IT, BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, VERY, VERY
10:52:25AM BAD.
10:52:27AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
10:52:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:52:29AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:52:31AM I SEE MR. DIAL STILL HERE.
10:52:33AM I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S WAITING ON 74, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO
10:52:38AM CONTINUE.
10:52:39AM THAT'S ME.
10:52:41AM I'LL PASS THE GAVEL, IF I MAY, AND DO A CONTINUANCE.
10:52:47AM 74 TO THE FIRST COUNCIL IN APRIL.
10:52:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA
10:52:58AM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:53:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:03AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 70, WHERE THERE IS A REQUEST TO
10:53:09AM CONTINUE, AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
10:53:12AM 71.
10:53:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID WE DO 70?
10:53:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON 70.
10:53:19AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 2nd, UNLESS
10:53:21AM THERE'S OBJECTION.
10:53:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:53:24AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:53:26AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:53:28AM 71.
10:53:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:53:32AM JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.
10:53:35AM I HAVE A VERY BRIEF ONE-PAGE SUMMARY FOR YOU.
10:53:39AM THIS GOT PUT ON THE AGENDA LAST THURSDAY.
10:53:43AM SO I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU'RE JUST NOW GETTING THIS, BUT IT'S
10:53:47AM BRIEF AND I THINK IT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
10:53:51AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA, WHY
10:53:54AM DON'T YOU TELL US WHAT THIS IS.
10:53:57AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE MOTION WAS TO BRING INFORMATION REGARDING
10:54:00AM THE REMOVAL OF LAUREL OAK TREES IN CONNECTION WITH THE
10:54:02AM REPAVING OF THE DESOTO STREET IN THE HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:54:08AM SO THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION STORMWATER SERVICES
10:54:12AM DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE A RESURFACING PROJECT.
10:54:16AM I'LL PUT THIS ON THE ELMO.
10:54:19AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN ASSIST ME WITH ZOOM ON THIS
10:54:23AM THING.
10:54:23AM OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
10:54:32AM THAT'S GOOD.
10:54:37AM THANK YOU, STEVE.
10:54:37AM SO THIS AREA THAT'S IN YELLOW IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE
10:54:45AM RESURFACING THE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN THIS AREA,
10:54:49AM INCLUDING THE INTERSECTION OF MISSISSIPPI, DESOTO, AND
10:54:53AM HOWARD, WHICH, BY THE WAY, STEVE MICHELINI WAS VERY HELPFUL
10:54:58AM WITH US IN GETTING AN EASEMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO MODIFY THAT
10:55:01AM INTERSECTION TO MAKE IT MUCH SAFER AND CALM THE TRAFFIC.
10:55:04AM SO IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE'S
10:55:07AM THOUSANDS OF TREES.
10:55:10AM WE LOOKED AT THE TREES ALONG THE ROADWAY CORRIDORS OF THE
10:55:15AM ROADS WE'RE RESURFACING, WHICH IS MAINLY THE YELLOW DOTS
10:55:18AM THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP.
10:55:20AM SO AS PART OF OUR USUAL PROCESS, WE EVALUATED ALL OF THOSE
10:55:25AM TREES.
10:55:26AM AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, WE LOVE OUR OAK TREES
10:55:30AM IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT THEY OFTEN CREATE ISSUES WITH THE
10:55:33AM ROAD SURFACE, THE ROAD CONDITION, THE DRAINAGE, THE
10:55:37AM SIDEWALKS.
10:55:37AM AFTER SO MANY YEARS, THEY BECOME OLD AND NEED TO BE REMOVED
10:55:41AM AND THEY ALSO CREATE PROBLEMS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:55:44AM SO OUT OF THE 193 TREES THAT WERE ALONG THE PROJECT
10:55:48AM CORRIDOR, THE ROADS RESURFACING, WE HAD 13 THAT IN WORKING
10:55:53AM WITH OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOLKS, KATHY BECK AND
10:55:57AM NATURAL RESOURCES FOLKS, AND WITH OUR ARBORIST, OUR
10:56:01AM CERTIFIED CITY ARBORIST, WE DETERMINED THAT 13 TREES WOULD
10:56:05AM NEED TO BE REMOVED WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.
10:56:09AM SO I'VE LISTED WHERE THOSE TREES ARE IN THE SECOND BULLET,
10:56:13AM WHAT KIND OF TREES THEY ARE, AND THE STREETS THAT THEY ARE
10:56:18AM ON.
10:56:19AM JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL ON
10:56:22AM ONE STREET AND NOT ALL LAUREL OAK TREES.
10:56:25AM THERE'S A MIX.
10:56:26AM SO WE'RE CURRENTLY TRIMMING SOME OF THOSE BRANCHES AND IN
10:56:30AM THE PROCESS OF REMOVING THESE TREES AS WE WORK OUR WAY
10:56:34AM THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE VARIOUS STREETS, AND WE'RE
10:56:37AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAY IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE NATURAL
10:56:42AM RESOURCES STAFF AS WELL AS OUR CONTRACTOR.
10:56:47AM MANAGED BY CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT, AND THEY ARE
10:56:49AM DOING A VERY EXCELLENT JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT THE ARBORIST
10:56:53AM AND A CONTRACTOR WHO IS AJAX, ARE FOLLOWING OUR PLANS AND
10:56:58AM NOT GOING OFF THE RESERVATION, SO TO SPEAK, WITH ANY TREE
10:57:02AM DECISIONS OR REMOVALS THAT AREN'T ALREADY APPROVED.
10:57:07AM IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE
10:57:11AM QUESTIONS.
10:57:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO EACH
10:57:14AM OTHER ABOUT IT BUT I THINK AT LEAST TWO OF US GOT A BUNCH OF
10:57:17AM CALLS ABOUT THIS.
10:57:20AM MY SENSE WAS THAT NEIGHBORS FELT LIKE THEY WERE BLINDSIDED,
10:57:24AM THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:57:27AM WHAT CONVERSATIONS DID YOU HAVE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD
10:57:28AM ASSOCIATIONS OR INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORS?
10:57:30AM THE BIGGEST QUESTION, IS THERE ANY CHANCE TO SAVE ANY OF
10:57:34AM THEM?
10:57:35AM I CAN'T TELL BY THE DOTS WHICH ONES ARE BEING TORN OUT, BUT
10:57:39AM I THINK THE PEOPLE IN DESOTO FEEL LIKE IN PARTICULAR THEIR
10:57:41AM LITTLE AREA IS BEING MORE IMPACTED THAN OTHER AREAS.
10:57:45AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
10:57:48AM THE INTERSECTION COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT, DESOTO,
10:57:53AM MISSISSIPPI, AND HOWARD, THIS PROJECT STARTED OUT WITH JUST
10:57:57AM THAT INTERSECTION.
10:57:58AM AS TIME WENT ON, WE DETERMINED BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, ROAD
10:58:02AM CONDITIONS, WE NEED TO RESURFACE THIS WHOLE AREA.
10:58:04AM WE WORKED ON THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION PROJECT FOR
10:58:06AM PROBABLY FIVE YEARS, TRYING AND WORKING WITH THE
10:58:10AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP TO LAND ON THE CONCEPT THAT IT WAS
10:58:14AM ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE AND THEN, OF COURSE, GETTING AN
10:58:18AM EASEMENT.
10:58:19AM AS PART OF THAT WE DECIDED TO ROLL THAT INTERSECTION PROJECT
10:58:21AM IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESURFACING, AND WE HAD EXTENSIVE
10:58:25AM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
10:58:29AM THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT I JUST PUT ON THE ELMO IS THE
10:58:33AM PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAD SOME MONTHS AGO THAT'S ONLINE, ON
10:58:37AM OUR WEBSITE, WHERE WE WENT THROUGH EXACTLY OUR INFORMATION
10:58:41AM ABOUT WHICH TREES WERE GOING TO BE IMPACTED, AND THAT WAS
10:58:45AM ALL COMMUNICATED NOT ONLY IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, BUT THROUGH
10:58:47AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERSHIP.
10:58:52AM WHEN THE PROJECT GOT UNDERWAY, OUR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
10:58:56AM FOLKS WENT OUT AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS
10:59:01AM ABOUT THE TREE REMOVAL, WHICH THEY COULD GIVE YOU MORE
10:59:03AM DETAIL ON THAT, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
10:59:05AM BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE DID AS MUCH EXTENSIVE OUTREACH AND
10:59:09AM ANYTIME WE DO A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH
10:59:12AM COMMUNICATION OUTREACH, WE ALWAYS DO FEEL THAT THERE ARE
10:59:15AM SOME PEOPLE THAT FEEL LIKE THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:59:19AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A CHALLENGE, AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
10:59:22AM WORKING ON OF HOW DO WE TOUCH EVERYONE WITH THIS
10:59:26AM INFORMATION?
10:59:27AM NOWADAYS WE USE SOCIAL MEDIA AND Facebook, TWITTER,
10:59:30AM BESIDES THE OLD-FASHIONED WEBSITE AND PUBLIC MEETINGS, BUT
10:59:34AM WE DO FEEL THAT WE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THE
10:59:37AM LEADERSHIP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS AWARE, THAT
10:59:40AM ALL THE RESIDENTS WERE AWARE, AND WE REGRET THAT PEOPLE DO
10:59:45AM FEEL BLINDSIDED WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN, AND WE COMMIT TO
10:59:49AM KEEP WORKING TO DO BETTER ON THAT, WHATEVER CHANGES WE CAN
10:59:51AM MAKE TO REACH EVERYONE BEFOREHAND.
10:59:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAD TWO QUESTIONS I SMASHED TOGETHER.
10:59:59AM THE BIGGEST QUESTION, ARE THERE ANY TREES WE CAN SAVE OR
11:00:03AM MUST WE TAKE OUT ALL OF THOSE?
11:00:05AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: AGAIN, BETWEEN THE CERTIFIED ARBORIST AND OUR
11:00:08AM NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF, THEY ARE INDICATING THAT THESE
11:00:12AM PARTICULAR TREES -- AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT ALL LAUREL OAKS --
11:00:16AM EITHER THROUGH THEIR HEALTH IN TERMS OF WHETHER THEY ARE
11:00:21AM DYING OR ALREADY DEAD, OR SAFETY REASONS, HAVE TO BE
11:00:26AM REMOVED.
11:00:27AM OUT OF THE 193 THAT LINE THE ROADS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:00:34AM STREETS.
11:00:37AM THEY COULD SPEAK MORE IN DETAIL OF WHY THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE
11:00:40AM TO GO, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S IN OUR
11:00:44AM CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
11:00:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:00:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, ARE YOU DONE?
11:00:54AM MS. DUNCAN, THANKS FOR THIS REPORT.
11:00:58AM SORRY TO GO A LITTLE CRAZY LAST WEEK, BUT WE WERE GETTING
11:01:03AM CALLS ON THIS.
11:01:04AM SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT AND THEN THEY START
11:01:07AM SEEING THE CITY TAKING DOWN ITS OWN TREES, AND THAT CAUSES
11:01:11AM ALARM.
11:01:12AM BUT THIS IS A GOOD REPORT.
11:01:13AM THE 13 OUT OF 193 IS LESS THAN 10%.
11:01:18AM THAT'S NOT SO BAD.
11:01:19AM UNLESS ALL THE TREES ARE IN FRONT OF YOUR OWN HOUSE, THEN IT
11:01:23AM BECOMES A LITTLE DRAMATIC.
11:01:24AM MY SPECIFIC QUESTION IS, WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS, THE
11:01:30AM PERSON WHO TALKED TO ME THE MOST SAID THAT WHEN SHE TALKED
11:01:33AM TO THE CONTRACTOR, THE CONTRACTOR SAID THAT THIS TREE IS
11:01:38AM DIGGING UP THE STREET WITH ITS ROOTS, WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU
11:01:45AM LISTED HERE IN TERMS OF THE REMOVAL.
11:01:49AM IT SAYS THE REMOVAL WAS WARRANTED BASED ON THE SAFETY AND
11:01:53AM HEALTH OF THE TREE.
11:01:53AM I KNOW, I WENT OUT THERE THE NEXT DAY OR THAT EVENING,
11:01:56AM ACTUALLY, AND SAW THAT SOME OF THE LAUREL OAKS EITHER
11:02:00AM BECAUSE OF TECO TRIMMING OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE JUST GOTTEN
11:02:04AM OLD, LAUREL OAKS DO HAVE 40-, 50-YEAR LIFE SPAN, START
11:02:11AM DYING, AND THAT'S OKAY.
11:02:12AM WE CAN'T HELP THAT.
11:02:13AM BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE TREES WHERE THE ROOTS
11:02:19AM CAUSING IMPACT, AND THAT'S WHY THOSE TREES ARE COMING OUT?
11:02:23AM IF THAT'S THE CASE, ISN'T THERE ROOT PRUNING AND THAT SORT
11:02:25AM OF THING THAT CAN OR SHOULD BE DONE INSTEAD?
11:02:29AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, IT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
11:02:31AM AGAIN, I REFER YOU TO THE ELMO.
11:02:33AM THIS INFORMATION, AGAIN, WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC WHEN WE
11:02:36AM HAD OUR PUBLIC MEETING, DISCUSSED WITH THE HOMEOWNERS
11:02:39AM ASSOCIATION AND IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.
11:02:40AM OUR STAFF ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH THIS METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION
11:02:45AM AROUND TREES, WHICH WE CALL THE CARE METHOD.
11:02:47AM IT IS A MORE FINESSED, DELICATE APPROACH TO TREE PRUNING
11:02:51AM THAN WE'VE EVER USED IN THE PAST, WHICH IS OUR EFFORT TO TRY
11:02:55AM TO MINIMIZE JUST GOING IN AND START WHACKING WITH A CHAIN
11:03:00AM SAW OR SOMETHING.
11:03:01AM WHEN I SAY HEALTH OR SAFETY, THE SAFETY ASPECT IS, IF WE
11:03:05AM DON'T REMOVE THE TREE AND IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO FINESSE THE
11:03:10AM ROOTS ANY MORE THAN WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE
11:03:13AM ARBORIST, THE TREE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN ORDER FOR THE
11:03:16AM SAFETY OF BUILDING THAT ROAD PROPERLY SO WE DON'T HAVE FOLKS
11:03:20AM DRIVING AROUND BIG -- HITTING ANOTHER CAR, DAMAGING THEIR
11:03:25AM VEHICLE OR WHAT THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN ROOT INTRUSION COMES
11:03:29AM ALONG.
11:03:29AM WE ARE DOING AS BEST WE CAN, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS METHOD
11:03:33AM WITH OUR NATURAL RESOURCES FOLKS WHO ARE VERY PLEASED THAT
11:03:36AM WE'RE TAKING A MORE GENTLE APPROACH WITH THE TREES, BUT THE
11:03:39AM REALITY IS SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME OUT IN ORDER TO
11:03:45AM MAKE EITHER SIDEWALK, BICYCLE LANE OR ROAD SAFER AND FOR THE
11:03:49AM DRAINAGE TO WORK PROPERLY ON THE ROADWAY.
11:03:52AM AND WE REGRET WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
11:03:54AM WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE THAT THE BEST WE CAN, BUT THERE'S
11:03:58AM REALLY NOT ANY AVOIDING IT IN SOME SITUATIONS.
11:04:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE EIGHT TREES AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT
11:04:02AM SLIDE, IT SAYS THE CITY HAS LIMITED REMOVAL TO EIGHT TREES.
11:04:07AM WHERE DO THOSE EIGHT TREES FIT ON THIS PAGE?
11:04:09AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DIDN'T MEAN TO CONFUSE THIS WITH THIS
11:04:12AM EXAMPLE.
11:04:13AM WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE EVALUATION, IT WAS 8.
11:04:18AM WHEN WE WENT OUT WITH THE ARBORIST AND THE NATURAL
11:04:22AM RESOURCES, WE HAD FIVE MORE THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD LEAVE
11:04:26AM WITH THE CARE METHOD, AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO.
11:04:29AM BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHERS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO LEAVE FOR THE
11:04:32AM CARE METHOD THAT AREN'T BEING REMOVED WHICH ARE NOT ON YOUR
11:04:35AM REPORT BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THOSE ARE THE ONES STAYING.
11:04:37AM THE TOTAL IS 13.
11:04:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S SORT OF A PRELIMINARY THING, THE
11:04:42AM 8.
11:04:43AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, YES.
11:04:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST LIKE YOU SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO,
11:04:49AM CAN YOU E-MAIL THE REST OF COUNCIL, ALL OF COUNCIL THIS
11:04:51AM DOCUMENT SO WE CAN SHARE IT WITH ANYBODY THAT WE HEAR FROM?
11:04:54AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
11:04:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS WELL AS THIS ONE-PAGER.
11:04:57AM THANK YOU.
11:05:00AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
11:05:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
11:05:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
11:05:04AM I'M WAITING FOR NUMBER 72.
11:05:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:09AM WE MOVE TO 72.
11:05:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:05:12AM MS. DUNCAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
11:05:15AM I WAS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, SOUTH OF GANDY,
11:05:19AM GANDY SOUTH BAY.
11:05:20AM ON ONE HAND, THEY WERE SO ELATED BECAUSE OKLAHOMA, FROM DALE
11:05:25AM MABRY TO MANHATTAN HAS BEEN REPAVED.
11:05:28AM ON THE OTHER HAND, BECAUSE THERE WERE NO MORE POTHOLES,
11:05:31AM SPEEDERS WERE SPEEDING FROM DALE MABRY TO MANHATTAN.
11:05:35AM AND I WAS INQUIRING WHEN THE SPEED HUMPS AND SPEED LIMIT
11:05:39AM SIGNS WERE GOING TO BE REPLACED.
11:05:41AM I WAS WISE ENOUGH TO CONTACT YOUR OFFICE.
11:05:44AM AND I FOUND OUT THAT IN FOUR DAYS, FROM THE 27th, THESE
11:05:48AM THINGS WILL BE STARTING TO BE REPLACED.
11:05:50AM MS. DUNCAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
11:05:53AM I WILL SEND ON THIS INFORMATION TO ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE
11:05:57AM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
11:05:58AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
11:05:59AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
11:06:01AM I DO HAVE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION, IF YOU'D LIKE IT.
11:06:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.
11:06:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: FOR EVERYONE, OF COURSE.
11:06:07AM I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, SINCE YOU DID GET YOUR INFORMATION.
11:06:21AM BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, YES, THE SPEED TABLES ON OKLAHOMA
11:06:25AM AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER STREETS LISTED ON THIS
11:06:27AM ONE-PAGE SUMMARY THAT WILL BE -- THAT WILL BE OR ARE TAKEN
11:06:32AM OUT AS PART OF THE RESURFACING.
11:06:34AM AND THOSE WILL BE PUT BACK, LIKE I MENTIONED.
11:06:38AM THE OKLAHOMA ONES ARE GOING TO BE PUT BACK BY THE END OF
11:06:42AM NEXT WEEK, STARTING MONDAY.
11:06:45AM THE SAME WILL OCCUR WITH THE OTHER SPEED TABLES THAT ARE
11:06:48AM REMOVED.
11:06:48AM THEY WILL BE PUT BACK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
11:06:50AM THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS, WE WENT OUT AND CHECKED, AND THOSE
11:06:53AM REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AND THERE'S NOT ANY --
11:06:56AM WE'RE NOT TAKING OUT, SO NOT SURE IF SOMEONE FELT
11:07:00AM DIFFERENTLY.
11:07:00AM IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEY CAN CONTACT US AND WE'LL DISCUSS
11:07:03AM THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THAT WITH THEM.
11:07:05AM THEN THE ATTACHED DOCUMENTS ARE JUST SHOWING WHAT WE
11:07:10AM COMPLETED SO FAR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT REMAINS TO BE
11:07:15AM COMPLETED TO FINISH OUT THE RESURFACING OF THIS AREA.
11:07:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:07:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:07:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:23AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 73.
11:07:26AM WE'LL HAVE MR. SHELBY DO THAT LATER ON TOWARD THE END.
11:07:30AM 74.
11:07:31AM 75 IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
11:07:32AM DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?
11:07:35AM EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT?
11:07:38AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:07:39AM I'LL SAY, IF I MAY, ON 75, THE REASON I DID THIS, DOES
11:07:44AM ANYBODY HERE EVER POST ON NEXT DOOR?
11:07:46AM AM I THE ONLY ONE.
11:07:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I USED TO UNTIL I CAME ON COUNCIL AND
11:07:52AM THEN MR. SHELBY ADVISED THERE MIGHT BE SOME SUNSHINE
11:07:55AM CONCERNS.
11:07:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, YOU CREATE PUBLIC RECORDS SO LONG AS YOU
11:08:00AM DON'T DELETE THEM.
11:08:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY CONCERN, MR. SHELBY, WANT TO CHIME IN,
11:08:06AM IF I HAPPEN TO BE TALKING TO LET'S SAY SOUTH TAMPA PEOPLE ON
11:08:11AM NEXT DOOR AND MR. CARLSON HAPPENS TO BE READING IT AND
11:08:14AM SOMEHOW, NOT INTENTIONAL BUT UNINTENTIONAL COMMUNICATION, I
11:08:22AM THINK THAT MIGHT BE A CONCERN.
11:08:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NEXT DOOR UNDER FLORIDA LAW IS NOT A PUBLIC
11:08:27AM FORUM.
11:08:27AM YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPUTER
11:08:31AM ACCESS.
11:08:31AM SO UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW, NEXT DOOR DOES NOT COMPLY IN ANY
11:08:38AM FASHION TO THE SUNSHINE LAW.
11:08:41AM THEREFORE, IF YOU COMMUNICATE YOUR POSITION WITH CITY
11:08:44AM BUSINESS, IT'S ONE THING TO NOTIFY OF COMMUNITY EVENTS.
11:08:50AM IT'S ANOTHER THING TO NOTIFY PEOPLE OF MEETINGS THAT MAY BE
11:08:53AM FORTHCOMING AND THE LIKE.
11:08:55AM BUT WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATING A POSITION THAT IS
11:09:02AM SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT COULD
11:09:04AM FORESEEABLY COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO A VOTE IT RAISES A
11:09:08AM QUESTION OF WHETHER IT DOES VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW.
11:09:12AM IS THERE A SPECIFIC CASE POINTING TO NEXT DOOR?
11:09:17AM NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT I DON'T THINK TAMPA WANTS TO BE THE
11:09:20AM FIRST VENUE TO HAVE ONE OPINION AN UNINTENTIONAL VIOLATION
11:09:26AM OF THE SUNSHINE LAW STILL HAS SANCTIONS ATTACHED TO IT.
11:09:30AM THE MOST IMPORTANT SANCTION REGARD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
11:09:34AM THAT A VIOLATION OF AN ACTION IN VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE
11:09:41AM LAW HAS THE EFFECT OF MAKING WHATEVER ACTION CITY COUNCIL
11:09:45AM ULTIMATELY TOOK, WHATEVER OFFICIAL ACTION, TO MAKE THAT
11:09:49AM ORDINANCE OR ACTION VOID AB INITIO FROM THE OUTSET.
11:09:53AM SO IT UNDERMINES IT.
11:09:56AM THERE IS A GREAT RISK COMMUNICATING POSITIONS ON BULLETIN
11:10:02AM BOARDS THAT ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC UNDER FLORIDA LAW.
11:10:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: WOULD THAT APPLY AS WELL TO Facebook?
11:10:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSOLUTELY.
11:10:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
11:10:10AM MY BIG ISSUE IS NOT TO HAVE DEBATES OR DISCUSSIONS OR
11:10:13AM ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT TO MAKE COMMUNITIES AWARE OF
11:10:16AM ISSUES.
11:10:17AM PERFECT EXAMPLE, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, I HAD A CONSTITUENT
11:10:20AM TALK TO ME ABOUT EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH WATER BILLS IN THE
11:10:23AM ARBOR GREEN COMMUNITY IN NEW TAMPA.
11:10:26AM SO I WENT ON NEXT DOOR.
11:10:27AM I DID A POST, BECAUSE I FOUND FIVE OR SIX INDIVIDUALS FROM
11:10:31AM ARBOR GREEN WHO ARE SEEING BILLS GO UP FROM $80 TO $300.
11:10:36AM IT IS SOMETHING SLIGHTLY UNIQUE TO THE COMMUNITY SO I DID A
11:10:40AM POST ON NEXT DOOR.
11:10:41AM I CAN POST BECAUSE I LIVE IN HUNTER'S GREEN, NEXT TO ARBOR
11:10:44AM GREEN.
11:10:44AM THE ISSUE IS, WHAT IF I WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO FOLKS FROM
11:10:48AM FOREST HILLS OR TERRACE PARKS OR TAMPA PALMS WHERE I DON'T
11:10:52AM LIVE.
11:10:53AM MY NEXT DOOR DOESN'T REACH TAMPA PALMS.
11:10:55AM I DO THINK THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE
11:10:58AM MEMBERS THAT WANT THAT AND NOT JUST GOING THROUGH THE CITY
11:11:01AM SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A VOICE OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
11:11:04AM I THINK THE MORE CONTACT THAT YOU HAVE THAT DOESN'T EXPOSE
11:11:08AM US TO LAWSUITS AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT LEGAL ISSUES IS A
11:11:11AM GOOD THING.
11:11:12AM I SEE HERE THE REPORT, AND IT APPEARS TO SAY THAT THE CITY
11:11:16AM WILL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE OWN CITY'S MEANS,
11:11:19AM THAT'S FINE, BUT I STILL THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT
11:11:24AM THEIR NEXT DOOR SHOULD HAVE IT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, NOT
11:11:27AM THROUGH THE MEANS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA PROPER THROUGH CITY
11:11:30AM COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THEN
11:11:34AM THE DUTY IS UPON US TO COMPLY WITH FLORIDA LAW.
11:11:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:11:38AM IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN AND
11:11:43AM ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
11:11:44AM I WILL BE MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TODAY.
11:11:46AM THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES I INTEND TO BRING UP WHEN I DO
11:11:48AM MEET.
11:11:49AM I SHOULD POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:11:52AM NUMBER ONE, THE PROBLEM WITH NEXT DOOR, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THE
11:11:55AM ABILITY TO POST SOMETHING THAT DEMAND A RESPONSE FROM A CITY
11:11:58AM COUNCIL MEMBER, SEE WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU MAY THINK THAT YOU
11:12:01AM ARE RESPONDING TO A CONSTITUENT BUT IF OTHER MEMBERS OF CITY
11:12:04AM COUNCIL ARE ON THE BOARD ABOUT SOMETHING FORESEEABLE THAT
11:12:07AM CAN COME BEFORE YOU, YOU ARE ACTUALLY IN A POSITION WHERE
11:12:10AM YOU ARE COMMUNICATING A POSITION THAT IS NOT OPEN TO THE
11:12:13AM GENERAL PUBLIC.
11:12:13AM SO I WOULD CAUTION YOU AGAINST RESPONDING.
11:12:16AM YOU CAN ALWAYS GIVE THEM, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY CITY
11:12:19AM OFFICE, CONTACT ME AT MY CITY E-MAIL ADDRESS AND THE LIKE,
11:12:23AM BUT TO NOT COMMUNICATE, TO RESPOND.
11:12:25AM IF YOU'RE ON NEXT DOOR AND -- EVEN ON Facebook, AND WE CAN
11:12:29AM HAVE A WORKSHOP OR A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING DOWN THE
11:12:32AM ROAD.
11:12:32AM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY TIME.
11:12:35AM BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, FOR
11:12:38AM INSTANCE, A Facebook PAGE, THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO RESPOND,
11:12:43AM HOW YOU RESPOND, IF YOU RESPOND BACK TO THAT CAN AFFECT THE
11:12:47AM SUNSHINE LAW AND HOW YOU REACT TO THEM CAN AFFECT THE FIRST
11:12:51AM AMENDMENT RIGHTS, FEDERAL LAW, SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY
11:12:55AM CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT.
11:12:55AM I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
11:12:59AM I WILL, MR. CHAIRMAN, REPORT BACK TO YOU PERSONALLY AS A
11:13:02AM RESULT OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO
11:13:05AM BE ADDRESSED.
11:13:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
11:13:07AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:13:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THE FLIP SIDE, JUST A
11:13:11AM LITTLE BIT, COUNCIL HAS NOTICED, YOU TALK ABOUT
11:13:14AM COMMUNICATIONS, YOU'LL MEET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TODAY,
11:13:17AM WHEN THERE ARE INSTANCES THAT OCCUR IN THE CITY, MAJOR
11:13:19AM INCIDENTS, COUNCIL IS NOT AWARE OF IT.
11:13:22AM I HAD MAJOR FIRES IN MY DISTRICT.
11:13:24AM I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL HAD THE MORNING.
11:13:26AM NO NOTIFICATION.
11:13:27AM A COUPLE OF SHOOTINGS WE HAD LAST WEEK, COUNCIL WAS IN
11:13:32AM SESSION, AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN ACTIVE SHOOTER AT ONE OF
11:13:34AM THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND COUNCIL WAS HEARING IT ON Facebook
11:13:37AM AND WE HAD NO NOTIFICATION FROM CITY STAFF.
11:13:40AM FINALLY I CALLED THE MAJOR OF DISTRICT 3 AND ASKED IF WE
11:13:43AM HAVE AN ACTIVE SHOOTER.
11:13:44AM HE SAID, NO, THERE WAS JUST GUNFIRE IN THE AREA BY THE
11:13:47AM SCHOOL.
11:13:47AM WE HAD CONSTITUENTS CALLING, ASKING QUESTIONS.
11:13:49AM I JUST THINK THAT WHEN THERE ARE INCIDENTS IN THE CITY, THAT
11:13:53AM CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE IT IS OUR DISTRICT.
11:13:54AM WE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF MAJOR INCIDENTS THAT GO ON WITHIN
11:13:58AM THE CITY.
11:13:59AM WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE INVESTIGATORIAL NATURE OF IT, BUT
11:14:05AM AT LEAST TO KNOW SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.
11:14:07AM I THINK IF WE CAN BRING THAT UP TO ADMINISTRATION THAT
11:14:07AM SOMEHOW -- I KNOW THERE ARE OFFICES IN PLACE NOW THAT STAFF
11:14:11AM IS ALERTED AND NOTIFIED OF INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN.
11:14:12AM I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE ALERTED AS WELL.
11:14:16AM IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
11:14:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, I WILL.
11:14:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, I THINK THE SUMMARY OF WHAT YOU'RE
11:14:21AM SAYING IS WE'RE PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO SET UP ACTS ON ANY
11:14:26AM PLATFORM AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW THE RULES.
11:14:28AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN'T DO, BUT THERE ARE THINGS
11:14:31AM WE CAN DO.
11:14:32AM LIKE THERE IS AN EVENT COMING UP APRIL 23rd ON BAYSHORE.
11:14:35AM WE'RE PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO POST THAT WHEREVER TO SAY COME
11:14:38AM TO THIS EVENT.
11:14:39AM WE JUST CAN'T POST AN OPINION ABOUT IT.
11:14:42AM IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US AND FOR AIDES I THINK IF YOU GAVE
11:14:46AM US A ONE OR TWO SHEET WITH A QUALIFIER IT'S NOT
11:14:54AM COMPREHENSIVE BUT HERE ARE THE DOS AND DON'TS ON WHAT YOU
11:14:57AM CAN DO AND CAN'T DO.
11:15:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU DON'T WANT TO LEARN WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T
11:15:04AM DO IN RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
11:15:06AM AM I RIGHT?
11:15:08AM THANK YOU.
11:15:08AM THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY, FOR THAT.
11:15:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT RECEIVED AND FILED?
11:15:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
11:15:19AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:15:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:15:22AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:23AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:15:23AM NEXT, 76, MR. BAIRD.
11:15:32AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL AND CHAIRMAN.
11:15:37AM BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
11:15:39AM IF I COULD GET THE FOLKS IN THE BACK TO PULL UP THE
11:15:43AM PowerPoint PRESENTATION.
11:15:45AM I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE MCKAY
11:15:50AM BAY REFUSE-TO-ENERGY FACILITY TRANSITION FROM PRIVATE,
11:15:57AM CURRENTLY BEING OPERATED BY WHEELABRATOR.
11:16:01AM AND TO CITY OPERATIONS OR PUBLIC OPERATIONS.
11:16:05AM THIS WOULD BE ONLY THE SECOND ONE THAT HAS MADE THIS
11:16:09AM TRANSITION IN THE UNITED STATES, AT LEAST OF THIS SIZE.
11:16:15AM SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TIMES FOR US, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING
11:16:21AM HARD.
11:16:21AM SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION AND
11:16:24AM SOLID WASTE STAFF IN PARTICULAR.
11:16:25AM FIRST, IF I COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND GO THROUGH A
11:16:35AM HISTORY QUICKLY.
11:16:36AM THE DEPARTMENT WAS FORMED IN 1927.
11:16:39AM SO APPROACHING A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
11:16:44AM IT WAS CALLED THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT BACK IN THOSE DAYS.
11:16:48AM 1967, THE INCINERATOR WAS BUILT FOR DISPOSAL OF OUR GARBAGE.
11:16:53AM IT DID NOT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY BACK IN THOSE DAYS.
11:16:56AM BUT FAST-FORWARD TO 1979, THE INCINERATOR WAS CLOSED BECAUSE
11:17:00AM IT COULD NOT MEET AIR REGULATIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE --
11:17:05AM FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE BY EPA.
11:17:08AM SO WE WENT DOWN THE ROAD TO PLAN, DESIGN, AND BUILD A
11:17:14AM REFUSE-TO-ENERGY FACILITY AND TO PRODUCE ELECTRICITY.
11:17:21AM WE BEGAN OPERATIONS IN 1985, AND WASTE MANAGEMENT OPERATED
11:17:29AM THE PLANT UNTIL ABOUT 1999 WHEN WHEELABRATOR TOOK OVER.
11:17:38AM DURING THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAD ADDITIONAL OR WE HAD A
11:17:40AM RETROFIT OF THAT FACILITY TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL AIR POLLUTION
11:17:45AM EQUIPMENT TO THE TUNE OF $80 MILLION.
11:17:47AM AND THEN THEY OPERATED THE FACILITY AND ARE CURRENTLY
11:17:51AM OPERATING THE FACILITY, BUT HOWEVER, IN 2014, THEY WERE SOLD
11:17:57AM TO ECP, OR ENERGY CAPITAL PARTNERS, AND THEN AGAIN IN 2019,
11:18:03AM LAST YEAR, TO MACQUARIE INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT.
11:18:11AM AT THAT POINT, WE STARTED LOOKING AT OPTIONS IN TERMS OF
11:18:16AM OPERATION.
11:18:16AM BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW BEFORE I GET INTO THOSE
11:18:22AM THREE OPTIONS WE LOOKED AT, THE CURRENT FACILITY COMMITMENTS
11:18:27AM AND CONDITIONS, WE HAVE IN THE CONTRACT NOW THESE BULLETS
11:18:34AM THAT YOU SEE.
11:18:35AM I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT SLIDE UP THERE, WHERE WE HAVE A
11:18:39AM CPI OR A CONSUMER PRICE INDEX INCREASE ANNUALLY OF 3%.
11:18:46AM BOND PAYMENTS ARE 14 MILLION APPROXIMATELY, AND IN 2021.
11:18:54AM WE HAVE AN ANNUAL MINIMUM GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE TO PROCESS
11:18:58AM THROUGH THAT PLAN OF 260,000 TONS.
11:19:03AM BUT CURRENTLY, THE FACILITY IS OPERATING AT CAPACITY AT
11:19:06AM ABOUT 310,000 TONS.
11:19:09AM AGING EQUIPMENT IS AN ISSUE OUT THERE.
11:19:15AM I THINK I WENT THROUGH SOME OF THAT LAST TIME WHEN I WAS IN
11:19:19AM FRONT OF COUNCIL, BUT IN PARTICULAR, ON THE PICTURE ON THE
11:19:23AM RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE SHOWN IN RED, WE HAVE THE COOLING TOWER,
11:19:28AM THE TACK, THE TURBINE ISLAND AND THE ASH PROCESSING BUILDING
11:19:33AM ARE ALL APPROACHING OR AT OR BEYOND THEIR USEFUL LIFE.
11:19:39AM WE HAVE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN PARTICULAR
11:19:45AM INCREASED DOWNTIME, EQUIPMENT DOWNTIME AND MAINTENANCE DUE
11:19:49AM TO THE AGING EQUIPMENT.
11:19:50AM AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPERATING COMPANY, OR WHEELABRATOR, HAS
11:19:57AM LIMITED ABILITY, AND ARE NOT REQUIRED, FRANKLY, BY CONTRACT
11:20:03AM FOR LARGE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN THE PLANT.
11:20:07AM THEY DO INVEST IN SOME HEAVY MAINTENANCE, BUT PROBABLY NOT
11:20:14AM ENOUGH FOR A FACILITY OF THIS AGE.
11:20:20AM SO WE STARTED DOWN THE ROAD OF LOOKING AT WHAT OUR OPTIONS,
11:20:24AM WHERE OUR PRIMARY OPTIONS.
11:20:26AM WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT MORE THAN THREE, BUT THE PRIMARY THREE
11:20:29AM WERE TO REBID THE EXISTING AGREEMENT, AND THAT HAS SOME PROS
11:20:34AM AND CONS, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THAT THE PRIMARY CON IS
11:20:37AM THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT OPERATE
11:20:43AM WASTE-TO-ENERGY PLANTS.
11:20:44AM WHEELABRATOR AND COVANTA.
11:20:48AM THAT LIMITED COMPETITION WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN HIGHER FEES.
11:20:51AM WE CAN DECOMMISSION THE FACILITY AND CONVERT TO A LANDFILL.
11:20:56AM I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE OR PROPER
11:21:00AM APPROACH TO OUR DISPOSAL.
11:21:04AM AND THEN OUR THIRD OPTION WAS TO TERMINATE THE EXISTING
11:21:09AM AGREEMENT AND TRANSITION TO OPERATING CITY STAFF, WHERE WE
11:21:17AM WOULD HAVE MORE CONTROL OF OPERATIONS, A LOT MORE
11:21:21AM FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE CAPITAL
11:21:25AM IMPROVEMENTS.
11:21:26AM NOW, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO -- OR WE WOULD NEED TO INVEST
11:21:34AM OVER TIME IN THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, SO WE MAY HAVE TO
11:21:38AM BE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT PLAN MOVING FORWARD.
11:21:42AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE ASSUME ALL RISKS AT THE FACILITY.
11:21:48AM THE CITY DOES.
11:21:49AM BUT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, WHEN WE WOULD HAVE SAVINGS IN THE
11:21:58AM OPERATIONS, THE FIRST BULLET ON THE BOTTOM UNDER OPTION
11:22:03AM THREE, THOSE SAVINGS COULD BE DIRECTLY REINVESTED IN THAT
11:22:06AM PLANT.
11:22:07AM THAT WAS THE BIGGEST PLUS.
11:22:08AM BUT GAINING CONTROL OF THAT PROJECT PLANNING AND THE
11:22:11AM IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE IS IMPORTANT, AND THEN WE WOULD
11:22:15AM RECEIVE ALL THE ELECTRICAL ENERGY REVENUES.
11:22:18AM CURRENTLY, WE HAVE TO PAY PER CONTRACT 10% OF THAT TO
11:22:22AM WHEELABRATOR.
11:22:23AM SO IT WAS, AT THAT POINT, BASICALLY A GOOD BUSINESS DECISION
11:22:31AM TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.
11:22:33AM I WILL GET INTO THE SCHEDULE TOWARD THE END OF THE
11:22:36AM PRESENTATION.
11:22:36AM THE TRANSITION PLAN WAS DEVELOPED AND INITIATED SEPTEMBER OF
11:22:45AM LAST YEAR.
11:22:46AM WE FINISHED IT.
11:22:48AM WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THAT PLAN FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A
11:22:51AM HALF.
11:22:53AM THE TRANSITION COMPLETION CURRENTLY WITH OUR ARRANGEMENT
11:22:58AM WITH WHEELABRATOR HAS A DROP-DEAD DATE OF JUNE 3rd.
11:23:03AM THAT MAY BE ADJUSTED BACK TO END OF MAY OR JUNE 1st
11:23:11AM BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH
11:23:14AM INSURANCE AND TRANSFER AND MAKING SURE THOSE EMPLOYEES HAVE
11:23:19AM INSURANCE COVERAGE DURING THIS TRANSITION PERIOD.
11:23:22AM THAT TAKES ME RIGHT INTO OUR CRITICAL PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH
11:23:31AM THOSE FOUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US THROUGH
11:23:34AM THIS TRANSITION DEVELOPMENT AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US IN
11:23:38AM WORKING GROUPS THAT WE HOLD ON A REGULAR BASIS TO RESOLVE
11:23:44AM THOSE ISSUES.
11:23:46AM THE KEY CHALLENGES, FIRST, WE HAD TO CREATE 50 NEW CITY
11:23:51AM POSITIONS IN THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, AND ONE OR TWO IN
11:23:58AM SOME OF THOSE SUPPORT DEPARTMENTS.
11:24:01AM FOR INSTANCE, THE PURCHASING OR PROCUREMENT SPECIALIST WILL
11:24:05AM RESIDE WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, BUT WILL BE EMBEDDED
11:24:09AM OUT OF THE PLANT.
11:24:10AM MUCH LIKE WE DO IN SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
11:24:13AM HIRING THE EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE STARTED THAT PROCESS, THE
11:24:18AM HIRING PROCESS.
11:24:20AM STARTED LAST WEEK WITH THE PLANT MANAGER.
11:24:25AM RECRUITING QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.
11:24:28AM IT'S A VERY LIMITED INDUSTRY.
11:24:30AM YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PLANTS LIKE
11:24:34AM WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
11:24:38AM I BELIEVE THE TOTAL IS LESS THAN 50 PLANTS.
11:24:42AM IT'S MUCH MORE LIMITED POOL.
11:24:45AM THEN OBTAINING THAT TRANSITION BUDGET APPROVAL, WHICH IS THE
11:24:50AM NEXT ACTION THAT WE WILL ASK OF CITY COUNCIL.
11:24:52AM THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU IN ONE OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS
11:24:56AM NEXT MONTH.
11:24:57AM SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
11:24:59AM PROCUREMENT OF THE FACILITY, GOODS AND SERVICES, OF COURSE,
11:25:04AM AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT ON ALL
11:25:08AM THOSE CONTRACTS, AND WHICH ONES ARE ASSIGNABLE, WHICH ONES
11:25:12AM ARE NOT, AND TRYING TO DEVELOP A SCOPE OF WORK, AND WHICH
11:25:20AM ONES WE WOULD NEED TO DO IN THE INTERIM ON AN EMERGENCY OR
11:25:25AM SINGLE-SOURCE BASIS.
11:25:26AM AND INCORPORATING THE WASTE TO ENERGY BUSINESS PRACTICES
11:25:32AM INTO CITY CULTURE, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
11:25:35AM THE WASTE-TO-ENERGY BUSINESS ALL WORKS ON 12-HOUR SHIFTS.
11:25:40AM EVERY SINGLE PLANT IN THE U.S. WORKS ON THAT BASIS.
11:25:46AM WE DO THAT ON A VERY LIMITED BASIS HERE IN THE CITY.
11:25:50AM WE HAVE EIGHT-HOUR SHIFTS AT WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANT WITH
11:25:52AM THE EXCEPTION OF WASTEWATER ON THE WEEKEND.
11:25:55AM SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THIS INDUSTRY
11:25:59AM THAT WE WILL NEED TO INCORPORATE INTO THE CITY CULTURE.
11:26:04AM ABOUT EVERY SEVEN YEARS, WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE A WASTE TO
11:26:09AM ENERGY PLANT NEEDS TO DO AN OVERHAUL OF THE TURBINE
11:26:14AM GENERATOR THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN OUTAGE PERIOD WHERE
11:26:18AM WE CANNOT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY IN THE PLANT.
11:26:21AM WE CAN PROCESS WASTE, BUT WE CANNOT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY
11:26:24AM WITHOUT THE GENERATOR.
11:26:25AM THAT'S COMING UP.
11:26:27AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, TERMINATION -- THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH
11:26:31AM WHEELABRATOR, THEY ARE ONGOING.
11:26:32AM OUR NEXT SESSION IS NEXT WEEK.
11:26:34AM IT'S TWO DAYS LONG, TWO FULL DAYS.
11:26:38AM AND THEN FINALLY, DEVELOPING A NEW EMPLOYEE TRAINING PROGRAM
11:26:43AM IS PARAMOUNT TO THE SUCCESS.
11:26:45AM I REALIZE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO READ THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART
11:26:53AM THERE.
11:26:54AM THAT IS THE 50 EMPLOYEES WITH THE DIRECTOR, MARK WILFALK AT
11:26:58AM THE TOP THERE.
11:27:00AM AND THEN THE SECOND ONE DOWN IS WASTE-TO-ENERGY PLANT
11:27:06AM MANAGER.
11:27:06AM AND THE SALARY OF THAT MANAGER AND RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE
11:27:11AM IN LINE WITH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANT MANAGERS.
11:27:15AM SO NOW WE WILL HAVE THREE PLANTS THAT WE OPERATE AND
11:27:19AM MAINTAIN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:27:21AM THE POSITIONS SHOWN IN BROWN ARE OPERATIONS POSITIONS.
11:27:28AM ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE AND THEN THE ONES ON THE LEFT SHOWN
11:27:31AM IN BLUE ARE MAINTENANCE POSITIONS.
11:27:34AM AND THE OPERATIONS, THE PLANT WILL BE OPERATED WITH FOUR
11:27:43AM SHIFTS AND IT WILL BE OPERATED 24/7/365.
11:27:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY INQUIRE FOR PURPOSES OF TIME, HOW
11:27:51AM MUCH LONGER DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION?
11:27:52AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE.
11:27:55AM THE NEXT SLIDE IS A QUESTION SLIDE.
11:27:57AM REAL QUICKLY, I'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THE
11:28:01AM TIMELINE, BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, WE STARTED INTERVIEWS
11:28:04AM THIS MONTHLY.
11:28:07AM WE, AS I SAID, THE PLANT BUDGET WILL COME BEFORE YOU NEXT
11:28:10AM MONTH.
11:28:11AM WE'LL BE IN NEGOTIATIONS FROM NOW THROUGH -- ACTUALLY, WE
11:28:18AM STARTED LATE LAST YEAR, BUT NOW THROUGH JUNE, AND WE'LL TAKE
11:28:22AM OVER OPERATIONS END OF MAY, BEGINNING OF JUNE, AND THAT
11:28:30AM WRAPS UP MY PRESENTATION.
11:28:31AM I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
11:28:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:28:34AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:28:34AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:28:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD.
11:28:40AM MARK AND YOUR TEAM FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, I SEE IT IS A BIG
11:28:44AM TEAM EFFORT ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY.
11:28:46AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:28:47AM LET'S SPEED DATE THROUGH SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.
11:28:51AM ULTIMATELY -- AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST BROUGHT THIS TO
11:28:54AM US -- YOU SAID WE WOULD TRY TO KEEP AS MANY OF THE EMPLOYEES
11:28:57AM AS POSSIBLE.
11:28:59AM HOW'S THAT SHAKING OUT AND WHAT DO WE PROJECT IN TERMS OF
11:29:02AM THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE FOR A SMOOTHER TRANSITION, I
11:29:06AM WOULD ASSUME?
11:29:09AM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, GOOD QUESTION.
11:29:10AM THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.
11:29:14AM SPOKANE, WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH IT, THEY WERE ABLE TO KEEP
11:29:15AM ALL BUT THREE.
11:29:16AM WE'RE HOPING TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS THEY WERE.
11:29:18AM WE MET WITH THEM FIRST THING WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THIS AND PUT
11:29:21AM THEM ON NOTICE LAST OCTOBER.
11:29:22AM WE MET WITH ALL THE EMPLOYEES.
11:29:24AM MARK AND I DID PERSONALLY.
11:29:29AM THE INDICATIONS WE'RE GETTING ARE THEY ARE EXCITED.
11:29:33AM THEY WANT TO COME ON BOARD WITH THE CITY, SO WE'RE HOPING TO
11:29:37AM BRING ALMOST ALL OF THEM, IF NOT ALL OF THEM ON BOARD.
11:29:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAND IN HAND WITH THAT, ORIGINALLY, I
11:29:43AM HEARD THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE ATU UNION, IS THAT WHERE
11:29:47AM WE'RE HEADED WITH THIS?
11:29:48AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:29:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXCEPT I GUESS THE MOST SENIOR MANAGEMENT
11:29:52AM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:29:53AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:29:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WHEN THE PLANT IS
11:29:58AM OPERATING TO ITS FULLEST CAPACITY, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR
11:30:01AM WASTE STREAM WOULD RUN THROUGH THE PLANT?
11:30:08AM I MEAN, 100%.
11:30:10AM >>BRAD BAIRD: YEAH, 100% IDEALLY.
11:30:12AM NOW, SOMETIMES YOU WILL HAVE ISSUES WITH --
11:30:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE PROBABLY DON'T BURN TIRES OR CONCRETE.
11:30:21AM >>BRAD BAIRD: -- ISSUES YOU HAVE TO DIVERT.
11:30:23AM RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE HAVE TO DIVERT TO A LANDFILL, OF COURSE,
11:30:26AM THERE'S A PENALTY TO WHEELABRATOR.
11:30:28AM OUR GOAL WILL BE TO GET THIS FACILITY BACK UP TO WHERE IT
11:30:33AM WAS 20 YEARS AGO AND HANDLE 100% OF OUR WASTE.
11:30:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, AND THAT LED TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
11:30:41AM THE FACILITIES TO THE RIGHT IN RED, I GUESS MARK WAS OUT
11:30:45AM THERE PAINTING THOSE BUILDINGS RED, BUT HOW LONG -- I MEAN,
11:30:51AM YOU SAID THEY REACHED THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE BUT WE'RE
11:30:55AM NOT KNOCKING DOWN SMOKESTACKS OR ANYTHING, WE JUST HAVE TO
11:30:59AM REBUILD THEM.
11:31:02AM >>BRAD BAIRD: REBUILD THEM.
11:31:03AM THE COOLING TOWER WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION.
11:31:04AM WE'D HAVE TO BUILD A NEW COOLING TOWER.
11:31:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT THE TALLEST ONE?
11:31:07AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT WAS THE ONE IN THE FRONT.
11:31:09AM THE TALLEST ONE WAS THE STACK.
11:31:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE DON'T HAVE TO BE DOWN WHEN WE DO THAT.
11:31:18AM WE USE THE OLD ONE UNTIL WE SHIFT OVER TO THE NEW ONE.
11:31:22AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:31:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:31:24AM GOOD.
11:31:24AM HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY DOLLAR-WISE DOES THIS THING GENERATE
11:31:31AM FOR THE COMMUNITY?
11:31:34AM HAND IN HAND WITH THAT QUESTION --
11:31:37AM >>BRAD BAIRD: 9 MILLION A YEAR.
11:31:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT.
11:31:40AM HAND IN HAND WITH THAT QUESTION, I'VE HEARD SOME GRUMBLING
11:31:44AM FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY THAT THIS -- BURNING ISN'T
11:31:48AM THE GREATEST THING IN TERMS OF GREEN ENERGY AND OUR GLOBAL
11:31:54AM WARMING ISSUES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
11:31:56AM BUT THEN AGAIN, LANDFILLS AREN'T THE GREATEST THING FOR
11:32:00AM OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
11:32:01AM HOW DO WE BALANCE THE TWO?
11:32:03AM >>BRAD BAIRD: I WILL TELL YOU, IT IS CALLED A TITLE 5
11:32:07AM PERMIT.
11:32:08AM IT IS OUR AIR PERMIT.
11:32:09AM VERY STRICT EMISSION STANDARDS.
11:32:11AM WE COMPLY WITH THOSE STANDARDS, AND ARE DILIGENT ABOUT
11:32:18AM COMPLYING AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE.
11:32:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DON'T GET ME WRONG.
11:32:22AM I DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBT THAT WE COMPLY WITH EPA STANDARDS.
11:32:25AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THEY ARE VERY LOW.
11:32:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- AND STATE STANDARDS, BUT THERE ARE
11:32:29AM STILL CARBON EMISSIONS THAT YOU CAN'T GET RID OF BECAUSE
11:32:33AM THAT'S THE NATURE OF BURNING.
11:32:34AM >>BRAD BAIRD: UM-HUM.
11:32:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE WE EVALUATED WHAT IS OUR CARBON
11:32:39AM OUTPUT THERE AND HOW THAT RELATES TO LANDFILLS AND THAT SORT
11:32:43AM OF THING?
11:32:44AM OR IS THAT -- WHAT HAVE WE DONE ON THAT?
11:32:47AM >>BRAD BAIRD: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A SPECIFIC
11:32:49AM EVALUATION OF WHAT THE CARBON EMISSIONS ARE.
11:32:53AM WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT, AND WE KNOW THAT.
11:32:56AM OUR ENGINEER OF RECORD I'M SURE COULD PROVIDE THAT
11:32:59AM INFORMATION.
11:33:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THE NEXT TIME YOU COME IN WITH A
11:33:02AM REPORT I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
11:33:04AM AND THE FACT THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE MORE CHILDREN THAN ANY
11:33:07AM OF US, YOU SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED.
11:33:10AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:33:11AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
11:33:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY LAST QUESTION, WHAT DOES SELF-WHEELING
11:33:18AM MEAN?
11:33:19AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE ELECTRICITY WE
11:33:22AM PRODUCE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE TO POWER OUR FACILITIES OR
11:33:27AM POSSIBLY SEND DOWN TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT TO USE THERE.
11:33:31AM IN OTHER WORDS, PRODUCE ELECTRICITY AND USE IT WITHIN THE
11:33:36AM CITY.
11:33:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO TECO, UNDER TECO AND THE PUBLIC
11:33:40AM SERVICE COMMISSION RULES, WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT SORT OF
11:33:43AM THING?
11:33:44AM >>BRAD BAIRD: IT GETS TRICKY AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GET
11:33:49AM APPROVALS TO DO THAT.
11:33:50AM AND WE DO NOT SELL TO TECO IN THIS CASE.
11:33:52AM WE SELL TO SEMINOLE ELECTRIC.
11:33:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THAT IS.
11:34:00AM THANK YOU.
11:34:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:34:03AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:34:04AM ITEM 77, IT APPEARS TO BE JUST TRANSMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
11:34:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.
11:34:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:34:12AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:34:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:34:15AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:34:19AM OKAY.
11:34:19AM NOW WE MOVE --
11:34:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOING BACK TO 75, I READ THE MARKETING
11:34:29AM AND COMMUNICATION DIRECTORS -- DIRECTOR'S REPORT ON THE
11:34:35AM ISSUE, THE ISSUE I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP.
11:34:37AM I THINK WHAT I HEARD WAS, WELL, WE WILL BE THE CENTER OF
11:34:42AM COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE CITY AND GO THROUGH US.
11:34:47AM IT'S ALL SORT OF FINE AND GOOD.
11:34:49AM I'M WONDERING AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY
11:34:53AM PERHAPS ON CRA ISSUES AS WELL AS SOME OTHER ISSUES MIGHT
11:34:58AM WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT HOW WE COMMUNICATE, BECAUSE
11:35:03AM SOMETIMES OUR COMMUNICATION MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN
11:35:07AM THE ADMINISTRATION'S COMMUNICATION.
11:35:08AM SO NOTHING TO DEAL WITH TODAY, BUT I WANTED TO PERHAPS
11:35:12AM REINFORCE MAYBE A LITTLE OF WHERE YOU WERE GOING.
11:35:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YEAH.
11:35:17AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:35:17AM I AGREE WITH THAT.
11:35:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BROUGHT THAT UP SEVERAL
11:35:20AM TIMES TO MS. BAUMAN AND TOLD THE CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT OUR
11:35:24AM WEBSITE.
11:35:25AM IT DOESN'T HELP COUNCIL AT ALL.
11:35:27AM IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:35:29AM I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO WHERE COUNCIL, PEOPLE CAN
11:35:32AM COMMUNICATE WITH US BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REALLY ABLE TO.
11:35:34AM I'M HOPING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE CAN GET SOME COMMUNICATION
11:35:37AM IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITH COUNCIL.
11:35:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:35:43AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IN THAT I READ THE MEMO
11:35:46AM AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATION CENTRIC
11:35:50AM POSITION ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE NARRATIVE OF SPEAKING AND
11:35:54AM THE ADMINISTRATION SPEAKS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT EACH
11:35:56AM COUNCIL MEMBER SPEAKS FOR THAT OFFICE.
11:36:00AM WE ARE DULY ELECTED MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND I DID THIS NOT
11:36:04AM FOR PURPOSES OF OVERREACH, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF MERELY
11:36:07AM LETTING US USE THIS EFFECTIVE TOOL, IF USED PROPERLY AND
11:36:12AM LEGALLY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK THAT
11:36:15AM SOMETHING SHOULD BE SET UP FOR MEMBERS AND ALSO TO AVOID THE
11:36:19AM ENTANGLEMENTS WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU COULD HAVE A LOT
11:36:24AM OF CONFUSION THERE WITH CITYWIDES THEN GOING INTO A
11:36:28AM DISTRICT, ET CETERA.
11:36:29AM I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DO THINK THAT SOME MOVEMENT SHOULD
11:36:32AM BE MADE TOWARDS COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AT
11:36:35AM THE VERY LEAST WITHIN THEIR OWN DISTRICTS TO DIFFERENT
11:36:39AM NEIGHBORHOODS, TO ALLOW THAT VOICE TO BE HEARD AND TO THOSE
11:36:42AM NEIGHBORHOODS FOR NEXT DOOR.
11:36:45AM I THINK THAT'S COMMON SENSE.
11:36:46AM I KNOW, MR. SHELBY, YOU WOULD BE DISCUSSING THAT FURTHER.
11:36:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
11:36:52AM CASE LAW AND LEGAL LAWSUITS ARE EVOLVING ON THIS, AND
11:36:56AM THERE'S ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY RECENT LAWSUIT WHERE THE CITY
11:37:01AM HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE LIABLE AS A CITY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL
11:37:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER COMPLYING OR NOT COMPLYING WITH THE PUBLIC
11:37:09AM RECORDS LAW ON A PLATFORM THAT IS NOT CONTROLLED BY THE
11:37:13AM CITY.
11:37:14AM SO IN THAT SENSE, THERE SHOULD BE A DESIRE ON THE CITY TO BE
11:37:19AM ABLE TO TECHNOLOGICALLY PROVIDE FOR THAT, TO PROTECT THE
11:37:23AM CITY FROM LIABILITY.
11:37:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: IN A DECENTRALIZED METHOD BY WHICH WE DON'T
11:37:27AM HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO THROUGH THE CITY BUT THROUGH NEXT
11:37:30AM DOOR, AS DULY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS
11:37:33AM WHERE WE CAN EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS
11:37:36AM THROUGH THAT, NOT OFFICIALLY THROUGH THE CITY, THOUGH AGAIN,
11:37:40AM IF I COMMIT A, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, TORT, IT GOES WITH THE CITY.
11:37:45AM I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE WON'T BE DOING THAT.
11:37:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:53AM HAVE ITEMS 52 -- STRIKE THAT.
11:37:57AM I'M SORRY.
11:37:58AM HAVE ITEMS 52 THROUGH 56 BEEN SCHEDULED YET?
11:38:02AM >> YES.
11:38:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:04AM NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:38:05AM IF ANYONE IS HERE TO TESTIFY HERE TODAY OR SPEAK ON A PUBLIC
11:38:08AM HEARING, PLEASE STAND, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO, RAISE YOUR
11:38:11AM RIGHT HAND AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN.
11:38:14AM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]
11:38:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION
11:38:22AM TO OPEN ITEMS 57 THROUGH 62.
11:38:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:38:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:38:30AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:38:30AM LET'S BEGIN WITH 57.
11:38:34AM BY THE WAY, WHILE YOU COME UP HERE, WE ARE APPROACHING THE
11:38:37AM LUNCH HOUR.
11:38:39AM I AM PERSONALLY FINE ON MY OWN BASIS GOING THROUGH.
11:38:45AM WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
11:38:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TILL 12:30.
11:38:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I BELIEVE
11:38:54AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:38:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:39:02AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:39:04AM COORDINATION.
11:39:05AM VAC 20-03 IS A REQUEST TO VACATE AN ALLEY IN RIVERSIDE
11:39:10AM HEIGHTS.
11:39:10AM I HAVE A MAP FOR THE ELMO.
11:39:12AM THE PROPERTY IS IN RED AND THE ALLEY TO BE VACATED IS IN
11:39:23AM YELLOW.
11:39:24AM NORTH OF VIRGINIA AVENUE, SOUTH OF ORIENT AND RUNS BETWEEN
11:39:28AM OAKDALE AND RIDGE AVENUE.
11:39:31AM THIS IS A LITTLE BETTER PICTURE OF HOW IT WAS PLATTED.
11:39:35AM THE ALLEY IS HERE.
11:39:36AM THE PETITIONER'S PROPERTY IS IN GRAY, AND THERE ARE TWO
11:39:39AM OTHER OWNERS.
11:39:40AM I DID RECEIVE TODAY A LETTER FROM -- A LETTER FROM THE OWNER
11:39:52AM AT I THINK 1001 VIRGINIA, WHICH IS AT THIS LOCATION HERE IN
11:39:56AM SUPPORT OF THE VACATING.
11:39:59AM AND I KNOW THE OWNER TO THE NORTH WAS GOING TO COME, BUT
11:40:03AM SOMETHING HAPPENED.
11:40:04AM HE DIDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.
11:40:05AM HE WAS IN SUPPORT OF IT.
11:40:07AM I SAW THE TEXT MESSAGES FROM MY APPLICANTS.
11:40:11AM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM OAKDALE AVENUE.
11:40:16AM THIS IS THE ALLEY EAST FROM RIDGE AVENUE.
11:40:19AM IT IS UNIMPROVED.
11:40:21AM IT DOES HAVE A SEWER LINE, SPECTRUM, TECO AND FRONTIER.
11:40:26AM THIS IS THE PETITIONER'S PROPERTY LOOKING NORTHEAST FROM
11:40:29AM VIRGINIA AND RIDGE.
11:40:31AM AND THIS IS EAST FROM RIDGE AVENUE.
11:40:35AM THIS IS THE ALLEY THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OAKDALE.
11:40:40AM IT'S STILL OPEN.
11:40:41AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST, AND THEY DO NEED
11:40:45AM EASEMENTS FOR THE UTILITIES I MENTIONED.
11:40:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:40:53AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:40:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU PUT UP THE PLAT MAP LOOKING
11:41:03AM THING?
11:41:04AM AS WE CONTINUE TO THE EAST, WHAT IS THAT ALLEY ABOUT?
11:41:17AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THAT ALLEY IS OPEN.
11:41:18AM THAT'S THIS PICTURE HERE.
11:41:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT ALLEY IS OPENED AND USED?
11:41:22AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.
11:41:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN WE COME ACROSS THE STREET,
11:41:25AM WHATEVER THE STREET --
11:41:27AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: OAKDALE.
11:41:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OAKDALE.
11:41:29AM AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT ALLEY IS NOT USED.
11:41:32AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO.
11:41:33AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT FENCED -- PEOPLE ENCROACH WITH
11:41:36AM THEIR FENCES?
11:41:37AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO, NOT AT THIS POINT.
11:41:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE SIGNIFICANT TREES OR PROBLEMS?
11:41:42AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO, NOT THAT I SAW.
11:41:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF WOULDN'T
11:41:47AM HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS?
11:41:50AM I THOUGHT OUR INTENT CITYWIDE IS TRY AND KEEP OUR GRID OF
11:41:54AM ALLEYS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS.
11:41:58AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THAT'S TRUE.
11:41:59AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PLUS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION, MAYBE GO
11:42:04AM BACK.
11:42:05AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL UP OR NOT.
11:42:07AM YEAH, THAT ONE.
11:42:08AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: AND THEN THE ALLEY DOES NOT GO WEST.
11:42:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT DOESN'T GO FURTHER TO THE WEST, BUT
11:42:14AM CLEARLY YOU'VE GOT THAT COMING ACROSS FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
11:42:22AM I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.
11:42:24AM WHAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PETITIONER?
11:42:26AM ARE THEY HERE?
11:42:27AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THEY ARE HERE.
11:42:28AM THEY WANT TO FENCE IT AND SECURE IT AND MAKE IT EASIER TO
11:42:31AM MAINTAIN.
11:42:32AM APPARENTLY ALL THE OPENERS ARE IN AGREEMENT.
11:42:33AM THERE'S ONLY THREE.
11:42:34AM AND IT'S A SHORT ALLEY.
11:42:36AM IT'S 160 FEET.
11:42:38AM I DON'T KNOW IT WOULD EVER BE IMPROVED.
11:42:40AM I DON'T THINK IT'S IN A PLANNING AREA WHERE THEY NECESSARILY
11:42:44AM WANT TO DEVELOP OFF THE ALLEY BECAUSE THERE ARE ALREADY
11:42:47AM EXISTING HOMES.
11:42:48AM THEN I DO HAVE A LITTLE MAP.
11:42:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN SOHO, WE HAD EXISTING HOMES.
11:42:56AM BECAUSE WE HAD THE ALLEYS, WHEN THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS CAME,
11:42:59AM IN EXISTING HOMES KNOCKED DOWN AND PUT IN THE QUAD
11:43:02AM MULTIFAMILIES.
11:43:03AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YEAH, THAT COULD HAPPEN.
11:43:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE ALLEY IS VERY USEFUL AND PRACTICAL.
11:43:06AM LIKE I SAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS.
11:43:09AM ONCE THE ALLEYS ARE GONE, THEY ARE GONE.
11:43:11AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: PLANNING DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
11:43:14AM THEY HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE VACATION.
11:43:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE THEY HERE TO SPEAK TO IT?
11:43:19AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I DON'T THINK SO.
11:43:20AM TYPICALLY WHEN THEY DON'T OBJECT, THEY DON'T SHOW UP.
11:43:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:43:33AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 57?
11:43:36AM MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:43:40AM I'M SORRY.
11:43:41AM I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE HERE.
11:43:43AM COME FORWARD.
11:43:44AM MY APOLOGIES.
11:43:57AM >> I'M BRUCE McGREGOR.
11:44:01AM >> MARIA McGREGOR.
11:44:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T MEAN TO BE HOSTILE TO THIS, BUT
11:44:10AM I'M PRETTY CONSISTENT ON THIS, SO DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY.
11:44:14AM WHAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION THAT YOU WANT TO VACATE IT?
11:44:19AM HOW DID THIS GET STARTED?
11:44:23AM YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS IN AGREEMENT ON BOTH SIDES OF
11:44:26AM THE ALLEY.
11:44:28AM HELP ME OUT HERE.
11:44:33AM >> WE WERE GOING TO PUT IN A VINYL FENCE, AND WE WOULD LIKE
11:44:37AM TO MOVE IT OVER INTO THE MIDDLE AND MORE SECURITY.
11:44:42AM WE'VE HAD TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH THAT ALLEY A
11:44:45AM LITTLE BIT.
11:44:45AM MY NEIGHBOR, TOO.
11:44:48AM IT WOULD BE MORE SECURE IF WE HAD A BETTER FENCE.
11:44:53AM IT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE PROPERTY WE CAN USE WOULD BE
11:44:57AM OUR JUSTIFICATION IN IT.
11:45:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU SPECIFICALLY HAD DUMPING IN THE
11:45:05AM ALLEY?
11:45:06AM >> NO, NO.
11:45:07AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST MORE OF A SECURITY AND A LITTLE MORE
11:45:11AM PROPERTY.
11:45:11AM >> YES.
11:45:12AM AND ALL THREE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.
11:45:15AM IT WOULD BENEFIT ALL THREE OF US.
11:45:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:45:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:45:20AM ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY IN SUPPORT OF YOUR CASE, PETITIONER?
11:45:24AM OKAY.
11:45:27AM THANK YOU.
11:45:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:45:28AM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 57?
11:45:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:45:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:45:36AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:45:37AM ANY IN FAVOR?
11:45:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:45:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:45:42AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:45:44AM AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING
11:45:46AM A PORTION OF ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF ORIENT
11:45:49AM STREET, NORTH OF VIRGINIA AVENUE, EAST OF RIDGE AVENUE AND
11:45:52AM WEST OF OAKDAVE -- IS IT OAKDAVE AVENUE?
11:45:57AM >> NO.
11:45:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- IN THE MAP OF NORTH RIVERSIDE, A
11:45:59AM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
11:46:01AM FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
11:46:04AM HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS,
11:46:07AM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
11:46:09AM HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:46:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
11:46:15AM MR. MANISCALCO, SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION, I'M A LITTLE
11:46:24AM SURPRISED BECAUSE YOU ARE THE KEEPER OF HISTORY ON THIS
11:46:26AM PANEL.
11:46:27AM I THINK THAT OUR ALLEYS HAVE THAT HISTORIC VALUE.
11:46:31AM I THINK THIS IS BAD PRECEDENT.
11:46:34AM I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE PROPERTY.
11:46:39AM THERE HASN'T BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF DEMONSTRATION, TPD OR SOLID
11:46:43AM WASTE OR DUMPING OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT
11:46:46AM THIS IS A PROBLEMATIC ALLEY.
11:46:48AM SOMETIMES THE ALLEYS ARE REALLY PROBLEMATIC AND WE SEE A LOT
11:46:51AM OF DUMPING BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN THE TESTIMONY.
11:46:54AM I'M WONDERING HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE PRECEDENT, THE BAD
11:46:57AM PRECEDENT THAT GRANTING THESE KIND OF WOULD START?
11:47:03AM I DON'T MEAN TO PICK ON YOU.
11:47:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
11:47:06AM WE TAKE IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
11:47:08AM LOOKING AT THE MAP, IT IS AN ALMOST TRIANGULAR PIECE OF
11:47:11AM PROPERTY.
11:47:12AM IT'S NOT WITHIN A FULL CITY BLOCK OR A LARGER STRETCH.
11:47:15AM I'M LOOKING AT YOUR MAP THERE.
11:47:16AM IT'S UNIQUE.
11:47:17AM THEY WANT TO BETTER MAINTAIN THE ALLEY, WHICH IS LESS WORK
11:47:21AM FOR ANYONE IN THE CITY AND WHATNOT.
11:47:23AM THAT'S IT.
11:47:24AM BUT CONSIDERING THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, CONSIDERING
11:47:26AM THERE'S NO OBJECTION, AND THERE WAS EVEN A LETTER OF SUPPORT
11:47:29AM FROM ANOTHER NEIGHBOR, THAT'S MY BASIS FOR APPROVING IT.
11:47:33AM NOW, SETTING A PRECEDENT, I WOULD SAY NO.
11:47:36AM AGAIN, CONSIDERING THE SHAPE OF THIS PARCEL.
11:47:39AM IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.
11:47:40AM THE NEXT ONE DOWN, AS YOU SEE, LESS TRIANGULAR SHAPE BUT
11:47:46AM THERE ARE A LOT MORE PROPERTIES INVOLVED.
11:47:47AM THIS IS I THINK UNIQUE IN ITSELF.
11:47:49AM I DON'T THINK IT SETS A PRECEDENT.
11:47:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:47:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I'VE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT.
11:47:57AM I STATED I'M VERY AGAINST CLOSING ALLEYWAYS, MOST OF THE
11:48:02AM CONSTITUENTS I HEARD ABOUT ARE AGAINST IT IN GENERAL.
11:48:07AM IN THIS CASE, I DIDN'T HEAR A COMPELLING REASON TO DO IT.
11:48:09AM SO I WOULD -- UNLESS THERE'S SOME OVERWHELMING REASON, I'M
11:48:13AM ALWAYS GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THESE.
11:48:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:48:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUT THAT MAP BACK UP.
11:48:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN BY COUNCILMAN
11:48:25AM CITRO.
11:48:28AM IN ANY FAVOR?
11:48:31AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: WHICH ONE, THE PLAT?
11:48:33AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PLAT.
11:48:34AM THE DISTANCE OF THE OTHER ALLEY VERSUS WHAT WE'RE TALKING
11:48:36AM ABOUT.
11:48:37AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THIS IS THE ALLEY.
11:48:39AM AND THEN THE ALLEY THAT IS OPEN IS OVER HERE.
11:48:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU PUT IT ON OUR SCREENS RIGHT HERE?
11:48:44AM I DON'T THINK OUR MONITORS ARE WORKING.
11:48:46AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THIS IS THE ALLEY HERE.
11:48:50AM AND THE ALLEY DOES NOT CONTINUE TO THE WEST.
11:48:52AM IT DOES CONTINUE TO THE EAST.
11:48:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THE FAR NORTH, IS THAT TOTALLY CLOSED?
11:48:59AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I'M SORRY?
11:49:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE FAR NORTH OF THE ALLEY, THAT'S TOTALLY
11:49:03AM CLOSED, RIGHT?
11:49:05AM THERE'S NO CONTINUOUS NOTHING, RIGHT?
11:49:08AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THIS IS JUST GRASS HERE.
11:49:10AM THIS IS OPEN ON THIS SIDE.
11:49:15AM SO THAT ALLEY GOES DOWN THAT BLOCK.
11:49:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUT THE PHOTO UP ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE.
11:49:30AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THE PICTURE OF THE ALLEY ON --
THAT'S LOOKING EAST.
11:49:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
11:49:50AM THANK YOU.
11:49:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY EASEMENTS HERE?
11:49:53AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.
11:49:54AM SEWER AND THEN THE OUTSIDE UTILITIES, TECO, FRONTIER,
11:49:57AM SPECTRUM.
11:49:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT USED BY SOLID WASTE ANYMORE?
11:50:02AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO.
11:50:03AM NO TRASH PICKUP.
11:50:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE?
11:50:06AM MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:50:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
11:50:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M OKAY ON CLOSING.
11:50:13AM WELL, I'M NOT SURE.
11:50:14AM I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION, DEPENDING ON
11:50:21AM HOW THE MAKER FEELS ABOUT IT.
11:50:23AM I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE PLANNING STAFF -- IF PLANNERS ARE
11:50:29AM REVIEWING THIS AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT, I'D
11:50:32AM LOVE TO HAVE THEM HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AND TO
11:50:35AM TALK ABOUT PERHAPS THE BIGGER PICTURE, BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS
11:50:39AM UNDER THE NOTION THAT THE CITY CARES ABOUT ITS ALLEYS, CITY
11:50:46AM PROPERTY, PUBLIC PROPERTY, AND THAT WE CAUTIOUSLY VACATE IT.
11:50:51AM I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE COULDN'T PERHAPS INSTEAD OF
11:50:55AM APPROVING IT OR DENYING IT TODAY, IF WE COULDN'T JUST DEFER
11:51:00AM IT AND CONTINUE IT FOR X NUMBER OF WEEKS AND HAVE PLANNING
11:51:04AM STAFF COME AND SPEAK TO IT.
11:51:09AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I KNOW THESE PEOPLE SOMETIMES TRAVEL.
11:51:11AM LET ME SEE WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
11:51:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WAS AMENABLE TO THAT.
11:51:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, COUNCIL, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE
11:51:23AM IS YOUR CRITERIA IS PRETTY CLEAR.
11:51:30AM YOU COULD ASK LEGAL ABOUT THE CRITERIA, AND I CAN GO BACK TO
11:51:35AM THE MEMO OF WHAT CONSTITUTES THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
11:51:39AM EVIDENCE OR THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON.
11:51:47AM CONTINUING THIS FOR A POLICY DISCUSSION FROM THE PLANNING
11:51:51AM STAFF I DON'T BELIEVE WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DO
11:51:53AM THIS.
11:51:54AM IF YOU DO NOT -- IF STAFF -- IF COUNCIL BASED ON THE STAFF
11:51:59AM REPORT AND BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'VE HEARD DOES NOT
11:52:03AM FEEL THAT THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET, THEN YOU ACT
11:52:05AM ACCORDINGLY.
11:52:06AM IF YOU FEEL THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET, THEN YOU ACT
11:52:08AM ACCORDINGLY.
11:52:09AM FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU WISH TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING
11:52:11AM ABOUT THAT OUTSIDE THE HEARING BECAUSE THIS IS RELATIVE TO
11:52:13AM THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL AND PROPERTY RIGHT, IF IT'S GRANTED.
11:52:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
11:52:22AM PERHAPS I FRAMED IT IN TOO LARGE OF A MANNER.
11:52:25AM BUT SPECIFICALLY, WE RELY ON STAFF REPORTS TO MAKE OUR
11:52:30AM DECISION.
11:52:31AM I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
11:52:32AM ONE OF THE STAFF REPORTS THAT I'M LOOKING ON THEIR LIST, YOU
11:52:35AM KNOW, IS THE ZONING STAFF AND THEN THE URBAN DESIGN STAFF
11:52:42AM AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF, ET CETERA.
11:52:45AM I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAY, CAN YOU
11:52:49AM COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR DECISION AS RELATED TO THIS
11:52:53AM PARTICULAR ITEM.
11:52:54AM SO I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION, AND I'LL CLARIFY THAT
11:52:57AM THAT'S THE INTENT OF MY MOTION IS TO ASK THEM TO COME AND
11:53:04AM TALK TO US AND ELABORATE AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY
11:53:08AM THEY CAME TO THAT DECISION OF NO OBJECTION.
11:53:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE HEAR FROM ANYONE, COUNCILMAN
11:53:13AM CARLSON.
11:53:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT ONE ALTERNATIVE WOULD
11:53:18AM BE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS ONE AND MAYBE AT THE
11:53:21AM END YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF REPORT ON POLICIES
11:53:24AM AND STRATEGIES FOR ALLEYWAYS.
11:53:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE BIGGER PICTURE, YES, AND I'LL
11:53:29AM DEFER THAT BECAUSE MR. SHELBY INDICATES -- BIG-PICTURE IS --
11:53:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL SECOND THAT IF YOU DO IT LATER.
11:53:38AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:53:40AM I WANT TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN
11:53:42AM THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS, IT IS THE APPLICANT'S BURDEN TO
11:53:45AM PROVE THAT THEY MET IT.
11:53:46AM CITY COUNCIL MAY FIND THAT THEY'D LIKE ADDITIONAL
11:53:48AM INFORMATION BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU.
11:53:50AM THE QUESTION IS, DID THE APPLICANT MEET THEIR BURDEN.
11:53:53AM IF THEY DIDN'T MEET THEIR BURDEN, YOU MAY SUGGEST THAT THEY
11:53:56AM WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ADDITIONAL
11:53:58AM INFORMATION, BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO
11:54:01AM ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO
11:54:05AM MOVE FORWARD.
11:54:05AM BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS, DID THEY MEET THEIR BURDEN OR NOT?
11:54:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, AND I KIND OF AS A SIDEBAR
11:54:13AM MENTIONED TO MR. SHELBY THAT WE, JUST TO BE PROCEDURALLY
11:54:19AM CORRECT, MS. KERT THAT WE ASK THE PETITIONERS IF THEY HAD
11:54:22AM ANY OBJECTION TO THE CONTINUANCE.
11:54:24AM I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
11:54:25AM I THINK THEY PROBABLY NEED TO COME FORWARD AND STATE ON THE
11:54:30AM RECORD WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTION.
11:54:55AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I THINK HE WANTS IT TO BE VOTED ON.
11:54:58AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION TO BE CLEAR, SIR, THERE'S A
11:55:01AM LITTLE BIT OF CONCERNS RAISED BY DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS,
11:55:05AM INCLUDING MYSELF, ASKING PERHAPS THAT WE COULD GET STAFF
11:55:07AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PETITION AND SEE WHY THEY
11:55:12AM OBJECTED OR DIDN'T OBJECT.
11:55:14AM IN YOUR CASE, THEY DIDN'T OBJECT.
11:55:16AM I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF.
11:55:19AM THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONTINUANCE OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AS
11:55:22AM OPPOSED TO VOTING UP OR DOWN TODAY.
11:55:24AM SO MY REQUEST IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IF WE CONTINUE
11:55:30AM THIS ITEM FOR A FEW WEEKS?
11:55:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: DID THEY WANT IT VOTED ON TODAY?
11:55:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY.
11:55:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION IS, DO THEY HAVE ANY
11:55:41AM OBJECTION IF WE CONTINUE IT?
11:55:44AM IT IS THE SAME QUESTION JUST STATED DIFFERENTLY.
11:55:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS?
11:55:58AM DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.
11:56:01AM YOUR CHOICE IS YOU MAY EITHER HAVE A CONTINUANCE TO SEEK THE
11:56:04AM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WISHES OR
11:56:07AM YOU MAY PROCEED TO THE VOTE TODAY.
11:56:09AM I'D GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.
11:56:13AM HOW ABOUT WE GO TO 58?
11:56:16AM LET'S TRY TO SPEED THROUGH THAT ONE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE AND
11:56:19AM THEN COME BACK TO YOU.
11:56:21AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:56:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GUYS.
11:56:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:56:25AM OKAY.
11:56:25AM WE MOVE TO 58.
11:56:33AM >> JOHN MARSH, URBAN PLANNER 2, SIDEWALK CAFES, PLANNING AND
11:56:38AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:56:39AM I HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL REPORT TO BE ADDED INTO THE RECORD.
11:56:45AM THE REPORT IS THE ACELA SUMMARY OF THE PREVIOUS REVIEW OF
11:56:53AM THIS APPLICATION.
11:56:54AM STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CASE SWC-20-7 AT 310 NORTH ROME
11:57:02AM TO PLACE TABLES AND CHAIRS IN THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR A
11:57:05AM SIDEWALK CAFE.
11:57:06AM SIDEWALK CAFE WILL ACTUALLY BE ON THE FIG STREET SIDE.
11:57:11AM ROME IS THE LEGAL ADDRESS.
11:57:13AM THE APPLICANT IS REBUILDING THE FIG STREET CURB AND SIDEWALK
11:57:16AM RIGHT-OF-WAY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
11:57:18AM STAFF AND APPLICANT'S AGENT IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
11:57:24AM QUESTIONS.
11:57:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:57:26AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:57:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:57:32AM TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF
11:57:35AM WILLA'S.
11:57:36AM GIVEN THE HOUR AND OUT OF RESPECT TO MY FELLOW TRAVELERS ON
11:57:39AM THE AGENDA, I'LL KEEP THIS PRETTY BRIEF.
11:57:42AM YOU ALL DO NOT GET A TON OF SIDEWALK CAFE HEARINGS.
11:57:45AM THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
11:57:46AM DISTRICT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, IN YBOR CITY, THOSE ARE
11:57:50AM HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:57:51AM AS THERE'S MORE INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS OUTSIDE OF THOSE
11:57:55AM BOUNDARIES, THAT'S A CITY COUNCIL MATTER WHICH REQUIRES A
11:57:57AM PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
11:58:01AM THE PRIOR COUNCIL GRANTED THE SPECIAL USE APPROVAL TO SERVE
11:58:03AM ALCOHOL AT THIS RESTAURANT.
11:58:05AM THERE'S BEEN A BIT OF TURNOVER SINCE.
11:58:06AM I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF ORIENTATION ABOUT WHERE
11:58:09AM WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:58:11AM THE AREA IS 310 NORTH ROME.
11:58:15AM THAT'S THE BUILDING RIGHT THERE.
11:58:17AM THERE IS THE WALMART ON KENNEDY, A COUPLE OF BLOCKS UP FROM
11:58:20AM THAT IN NORTH HYDE PARK.
11:58:22AM THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDING CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE NOW ON THE
11:58:24AM ROME SIDE.
11:58:25AM THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1906.
11:58:28AM THIS IS AN INTERESTING ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT.
11:58:31AM THE SITE PLAN HERE SHOWS WHERE THE SIDEWALK CAFE IS GOING TO
11:58:36AM BE.
11:58:36AM IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS FIG.
11:58:39AM RIGHT NOW, NEXT, I'LL SHOW THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
11:58:44AM IT'S PRETTY IMPASSABLE BY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC NOW.
11:58:47AM SO WHILE WE ARE ASKING FOR A PERMIT TO HAVE A SIDEWALK CAFE
11:58:50AM AFTER GIVING EFFECT TO THAT CAFE AREA, THERE'S STILL GOING
11:58:54AM TO BE A SIX-FOOT SIDEWALK, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A
11:58:56AM SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS HAD
11:59:01AM A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY BUT NOT AS MUCH
11:59:03AM STREET-LEVEL ACTIVATION.
11:59:05AM HERE'S THE EXISTING CONDITION ON THE SITE ON FIG.
11:59:08AM TECO LINES WILL BE BURIED.
11:59:11AM IT HAS A BIT OF A SLOPE TO IT.
11:59:12AM NOT A PARTICULARLY PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.
11:59:15AM YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT ON THE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON
11:59:18AM THE NORTH SIDE OF FIG, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL MULTIFAMILY
11:59:23AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:59:24AM A LOT OF FOLKS ARE THERE, AND THEY ARE HUNGRY, WHICH IS WHY
11:59:28AM IT'S GOOD THAT A RESTAURANT IS GOING TO BE GOING IN THERE.
11:59:30AM NEXT, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A RENDERING OF WHAT THE SIDEWALK
11:59:34AM CAFE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
11:59:36AM AN ASPECT OF THIS IS NOT TOTALLY ACCURATE.
11:59:39AM JOHN MARSH HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH IN THIS, WOULD
11:59:42AM KILL ME IF I SHOWED THESE GIANT PLANTERS.
11:59:44AM CODE IS A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR ON THIS.
11:59:47AM OUR SITE PLAN DOES NOT HAVE THESE MASSIVE PLANTERS.
11:59:50AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE ARCHITECT DOING A WONDERFUL JOB
11:59:53AM AND THE LAWYER UNFORTUNATELY HAVING TO RATCHET THINGS BACK A
11:59:58AM BIT.
11:59:58AM THIS IS A SENSE OF WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW IT
12:00:02PM WOULD FLOW.
12:00:03PM 12 TABLES, 24 SEATS.
12:00:05PM OPEN FROM 6 TO 11.
12:00:06PM WE MIGHT CHANGE THAT AS THE RESTAURANT BECOMES MORE
12:00:09PM SUCCESSFUL WHICH IT WILL BE AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE
12:00:13PM EXTENT WE HAVE TO MODIFY THE HOURS.
12:00:15PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
12:00:15PM I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE BRIEFLY, AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO
12:00:18PM SPEAK OR ANY ANSWER QUESTIONS.
12:00:20PM SIEGEL AND JENKINS, WHO ARE THE COFOUNDERS OF THE
12:00:25PM RESTAURANT, BOTH PRODUCTS OF TAMPA WHO MOVED TO NEW YORK
12:00:29PM CITY, WORKED IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AND WE'RE FORTUNATE
12:00:32PM TO HAVE THEM BACK HERE.
12:00:33PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOLKS HAVE.
12:00:36PM OUT OF RESPECT OF YOUR TIME AND FELLOW AGENDA TRAVELERS,
12:00:39PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK THEM TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW.
12:00:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. HUDSON.
12:00:43PM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:00:46PM ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?
12:00:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON, BRILLIANT PLAN.
12:00:50PM I LIKE THIS PLAN A LOT.
12:00:50PM I LIKE SIX FOOT FOR SIDEWALKS.
12:00:53PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.
12:00:54PM IS THERE GOING TO BE ON-STREET PARKING THAT YOU KNOW OF?
12:00:59PM >> THERE ARE NOT ON-STREET PARKING SPACES RIGHT NEXT TO THE
12:01:03PM SIDEWALK CAFE BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FIG, THERE'S EXISTING
12:01:07PM ON-STREET PARKING.
12:01:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE GOING TO BE PROPOSED BIKE RACKS FOR
12:01:11PM PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO DRIVE THEIR CAR?
12:01:14PM >> YES.
12:01:14PM THERE ARE BIKE RACKS ON-SITE.
12:01:17PM THIS IS THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE PROPRIETORS WHO ARE SITTING
12:01:20PM BEHIND ME, THAT NOT DRIVING IS GOING TO BE ENCOURAGED.
12:01:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FANTASTIC.
12:01:24PM WE ALL KNOW THAT -- EXCUSE ME, THE CITY HAS NOT GRANTED YET
12:01:29PM BUT SCOOTERS MAY BE A PART OF OUR FUTURE.
12:01:32PM IS THERE A PROPOSED PLACE FOR SCOOTERS TO BE PARKED INSTEAD
12:01:35PM OF JUST BEING ON THE SIDEWALK TO PREVENT ADA?
12:01:39PM >> THERE ARE SCOOTER CORRALS.
12:01:42PM I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE PLANNING ON HOSTING ONE ON-SITE.
12:01:45PM DUE TO THE PROLIFERATION OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE
12:01:48PM AREA, THERE'S ADEQUATE SCOOTER SUPPLY, AND IT APPEARS
12:01:52PM DEMAND.
12:01:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT I SEE THE
12:01:55PM PETITIONER'S HEAD BOBBING UP AND DOWN.
12:01:58PM >> IS THERE A CORRAL ON THE BUILDING PROPERTY?
12:02:00PM OKAY, NEXT TO THE BIKE RACK THERE WILL BE SCOOTERS.
12:02:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHARLIE MIRANDA REMINDED US NOT TOO LONG
12:02:10PM AGO, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY.
12:02:12PM JUST A MATTER OF QUICK DISCLOSURE, I'VE KNOWN MR. SIEGEL
12:02:16PM SINCE HE WAS A LITTLE GUY WHEN HE COULD ONLY RIDE A SCOOTER.
12:02:19PM HE GREW UP WITH MY SON.
12:02:23PM ANYWAY, NO CONCERNS, NO RECUSALS NECESSARY.
12:02:25PM I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
12:02:27PM I ASSUME WHERE THE PLANTERS WERE SHOWN, THAT'S WHERE THE
12:02:30PM SIDEWALK WILL BE.
12:02:32PM >> THAT'S RIGHT.
12:02:33PM I THINK THE PLANTER AREA THAT I SHOWED IS STILL PROBABLY
12:02:35PM WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WILL BE THE SIDEWALK CAFE.
12:02:39PM WE'LL WORK WITH JOHN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD ON THE CODE
12:02:42PM WITH THAT.
12:02:42PM IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR HOW BIG THE PLANTERS CAN BE.
12:02:45PM THE INTENT IS REMOVABILITY.
12:02:47PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE TABLE, CHAIRS, PLANTERS, THROUGH A
12:02:50PM HURRICANE WE CAN MOVE THAT.
12:02:52PM THEY ARE PRETTY GOOD SIZE.
12:02:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNDER THE CODE, IF YOU'RE SERVING LIQUOR,
12:02:56PM WHICH I ASSUME FOLKS WILL DRINK OUT THERE AS WELL, DOESN'T
12:03:01PM THAT HAVE TO BE FENCED OFF A LITTLE BIT WITH A METAL FENCE
12:03:04PM OR SOMETHING?
12:03:04PM >> THE CODE ALLOWS FOR INSTALLING ESSENTIALLY --
12:03:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- INPUT ON THAT?
12:03:12PM >> FROM HOW IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED TO ME, YOU GET YOUR SIDEWALK
12:03:17PM CAFE PERMIT IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING ALCOHOL, YOUR PERMIT NOW
12:03:21PM EXTENDS FROM THAT BOUNDARY TO THE CURB.
12:03:23PM THE CITY HAS TAKEN THE POSITION WE DO NOT USE CORRALS LIKE
12:03:27PM OTHER CITIES.
12:03:28PM AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT MARKING OUT THOSE AREAS.
12:03:33PM PART OF THE REASON IT WAS FELT IN SOME AREAS, LIKE 7th
12:03:36PM AVENUE, WE'RE CREATING A PEDESTRIAN IMPEDIMENT THAT CREATES
12:03:40PM MORE PROBLEMS.
12:03:42PM SO THAT HAS BEEN OUR APPROACH UP TO NOW.
12:03:43PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
12:03:44PM FAIR ENOUGH.
12:03:45PM AS LONG AS WE'RE CONSISTENT AND WITHIN THE LAW.
12:03:47PM THANK YOU.
12:03:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:03:48PM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. HUDSON?
12:03:51PM >> NO.
12:03:52PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:03:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:03:54PM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 58?
12:03:57PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
12:03:59PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:04:00PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:04:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:04PM IS THERE ANYTHING, MR. SHELBY, WE NEED TO READ ON THIS?
12:04:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE MOTION TO
12:04:10PM APPROVE THE SIDEWALK?
12:04:13PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
12:04:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
12:04:17PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:04:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:19PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:20PM THANK YOU.
12:04:21PM OKAY.
12:04:22PM NOW THAT 58 IS DONE, WE GO BACK TO 57 FOR THE APPLICANT'S
12:04:27PM FORMAL POSITION.
12:04:30PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE VOTE
12:04:32PM TODAY.
12:04:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU ALL WANT TO SAY THAT FORMALLY THAT YOU
12:04:38PM WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD?
12:04:39PM >> YES, WE WANT TO GO FORWARD.
12:04:42PM >> WE WOULD LIKE A VOTE TODAY.
12:04:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE CLOSE, ANYTHING ELSE?
12:04:45PM A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:04:48PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:04:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:51PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:51PM WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, MR. SHELBY.
12:04:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE HAS ALREADY BEEN
12:04:56PM READ, THERE SEEMS TO BE A TYPO -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE
12:05:01PM WHOLE THING, UNLESS YOU FEEL THE NEED, BUT YOU'VE READ IT,
12:05:05PM BUT IT'S OAKDALE AVENUE, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.
12:05:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:05:09PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:05:11PM I BELIEVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:05:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:05:15PM AYE.
12:05:15PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:05:16PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NAY.
12:05:18PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND DINGFELDER
12:05:21PM VOTING NO AND MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.
12:05:23PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 20th,
12:05:30PM 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
12:05:32PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT PASSED 4-2.
12:05:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
12:05:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:05:42PM ITEM 59, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT?
12:05:47PM MOTION TO REMOVE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:05:50PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:05:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:05:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:05:52PM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 60.
12:05:55PM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY
12:05:57PM ATTORNEY.
12:05:58PM ITEM 60 AND ACTUALLY ITEM 61 HAVE THE SAME PETITIONER AND IT
12:06:01PM IS THE SAME GENERAL REQUEST, EXCEPT FOR THE LOCATION.
12:06:04PM IF YOU WANTED TO HEAR THEM TOGETHER, YOU COULD, AS LONG AS
12:06:07PM YOU UNDERSTAND AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU'LL BE APPLYING THE
12:06:10PM CRITERIA TO TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
12:06:13PM AND SO YOU COULD RESULT IN ONE BEING APPROVED, ONE BEING
12:06:15PM DENIED, BOTH BEING APPROVED, BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE
12:06:18PM LOCATIONS.
12:06:20PM THESE ARE --
12:06:23PM >> THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE PETITIONER.
12:06:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT ON COUNCIL?
12:06:30PM ANY COMMENTS ON CONCURRENCY?
12:06:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FIRST ONE, 707, IS THIS THE ONE NEXT
12:06:35PM TO THE TAMPA THEATRE?
12:06:36PM >> YES, SIR.
12:06:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M ON THE TAMPA THEATRE BOARD, AND
12:06:40PM THERE WERE CONCERNS FROM SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, JUST
12:06:42PM VOCAL CONCERNS, THAT THEY WERE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
12:06:45PM BEING THAT I'M ON THE BOARD, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T HAVE A
12:06:48PM FINANCIAL STAKE AND I HAVE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, I WOULD
12:06:50PM RATHER NOT VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I'M THE BOARD.
12:06:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU SAY NOT VOTE FOR IT, DO YOU MEAN
12:06:57PM ABSTAIN AND NOT PARTICIPATE?
12:06:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY, ABSTAIN AND NOT PARTICIPATE IN
12:07:00PM THE VOTE, CONSIDERING MY POSITION ON THE BOARD.
12:07:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S YOUR INTENT TO NOT PARTICIPATE, AND
12:07:07PM YOU'LL HAVE THE PAPER WORK FILED FOR THAT BECAUSE -- I WILL
12:07:16PM HAVE THE PAPER WORK PREPARED.
12:07:21PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE'S CONFLICTED BETWEEN HIS TWO ROLES?
12:07:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM WHAT HE SAID, HIS
12:07:31PM SERVICE ON THE BOARD PUTS HIM IN A POSITION WHERE THE FACT
12:07:38PM THAT HE BELIEVES IT WOULD CREATE A CONFLICT IN THAT HE
12:07:42PM DOESN'T WANT TO CREATE AN APPEARANCE OF ANY IMPROPRIETY
12:07:46PM BECAUSE HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAIR OR IMPARTIAL DUE TO HIS
12:07:51PM SERVICE ON THE BOARD.
12:07:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, BECAUSE HE
12:07:55PM IS ON THE BOARD OF AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
12:07:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: PETITIONER, ARE YOU OKAY WITH GOING FORWARD
12:08:04PM WITH FIVE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL, I ASSUME?
12:08:06PM BEFORE THAT, WERE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON COUNCILMAN
12:08:16PM MANISCALCO?
12:08:17PM >>REBECCA KERT: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT
12:08:20PM YOU ARE ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN IF YOU FEEL THAT THERE COULD BE A
12:08:23PM POTENTIAL DUE PROCESS VIOLATION OR AN APPEARANCE OF BIAS,
12:08:30PM WHICH IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH YOUR STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO
12:08:32PM VOTE.
12:08:33PM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A STATUTORILY CONFLICT BUT UNDER THE
12:08:37PM ETHICS RULES YOU ARE ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING.
12:08:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI, YOU'RE FINE WITH GOING FORWARD
12:08:42PM WITH FIVE INDIVIDUALS?
12:08:43PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S FINE.
12:08:44PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT, EACH OF THE
12:08:47PM PETITIONS WILL BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY.
12:08:49PM THE OTHER PETITION -- WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE INFORMATION
12:08:51PM THAT APPLIES TO BOTH PROPERTIES.
12:08:54PM SO THEN THE COUNCILMAN WOULDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT
12:08:57PM DISCUSSION FOR THE OTHER PETITION.
12:09:06PM >>REBECCA KERT: COUNCIL, AT THIS POINT I RECOGNIZE WE DO
12:09:09PM THEM SEPARATELY.
12:09:09PM ON ITEM 60, WHICH IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A SPECIAL USE
12:09:16PM PERMIT, AS YOU WILL RECALL WHEN YOU HERE A PETITION FOR
12:09:22PM REVIEW, THEY ARE DE NOVO AND ALLOWED TO RECEIVE NEW
12:09:26PM EVIDENCE.
12:09:27PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT THERE'S CRITERIA THAT RUNS WITH THE
12:09:29PM SPECIAL USE REQUEST.
12:09:30PM IF THOSE CRITERIA ARE NOT MET AT THE STAFF LEVEL, STAFF
12:09:32PM CANNOT APPROVE IT, SO IT HAS TO COME TO YOU FOR WAIVERS.
12:09:36PM STAFF PROVIDED WITH YOU A STAFF REPORT AND THE WAIVERS ARE
12:09:39PM LISTED IN RED SO YOU CAN EASILY DETERMINE WHAT WAIVERS THEY
12:09:43PM ARE REQUESTING, AND THEN YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO DETERMINE
12:09:47PM WHETHER OR NOT IF THE WAIVERS ARE GRANTED, THE GENERAL
12:09:49PM STANDARDS WHICH ARE ON YOUR STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 4 ARE STILL
12:09:52PM MET.
12:09:53PM I'M GOING TO BE HANDING OUT SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU TO
12:09:58PM CONSIDER.
12:09:59PM THIS ONE IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL IN THAT IT IS A REQUEST FOR AN
12:10:06PM ANNUAL VENDOR.
12:10:07PM ONE OF THE REQUEST FOR WAIVERS IS THAT THEY DON'T COME BACK
12:10:10PM ANNUALLY.
12:10:10PM HOWEVER, WE HAVE REVIEWED IT, AND BECAUSE THAT REQUIREMENT
12:10:12PM IS, IN FACT, IN THE LIST OF SPECIAL CRITERIA FOR THE SPECIAL
12:10:19PM USE, IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.
12:10:21PM IN FACT, YOU HAVE PREVIOUS -- I THINK A PREVIOUS CITY
12:10:24PM COUNCIL HAS APPROVED WAIVERS TO THAT CRITERIA.
12:10:27PM I'M GOING TO HAND OUT THE SPECIAL -- I'M SORRY.
12:10:30PM I'M GOING TO HAND OUT THE SAMPLE MOTIONS AND I'M AVAILABLE
12:10:33PM IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:10:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:10:40PM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:10:41PM ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
12:10:44PM THIS IS A PETITION FOR VEN 19-72 FOR A PROPERTY AT 707 NORTH
12:10:50PM FRANKLIN STREET.
12:10:51PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ACCARDI DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
12:10:54PM IN THE STAFF REPORT ITSELF -- NOT THE STAFF REPORT.
12:10:57PM OKAY.
12:10:58PM THE APPLICANT, THIS IS JUST AS ALREADY INDICATED, THIS IS
12:11:05PM THE PROPERTY ON FRANKLIN STREET.
12:11:07PM THIS IS THE LOCATION.
12:11:09PM THIS IS THE PARKING LOT THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION.
12:11:13PM THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A COUPLE OF WAIVERS FROM THE
12:11:17PM REQUIREMENTS OF THE ANNUAL VENDOR REGULATIONS.
12:11:21PM THE FIRST, HAVE ACCESS TO A STREET THAT IS NOT ALLOWED FOR
12:11:26PM ANNUAL VENDOR.
12:11:26PM IN THE CODE THERE ARE SPECIFIC STREETS LISTED.
12:11:29PM FRANKLIN IS NOT ONE OF THE STREETS THAT IS LISTED.
12:11:31PM THEY ARE ASKING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE VENDORS FROM 600
12:11:37PM SQUARE FEET TO 1200 SQUARE FEET.
12:11:38PM THE HOURS ALLOWED BY CODE ARE FROM DAWN TO DUSK.
12:11:43PM THIS WOULD BE DAWN TO MIDNIGHT.
12:11:46PM TO INCREASE NUMBER OF VENDORS FROM ONE VENDOR PER SITE FOR
12:11:48PM THE LOT UP TO FOUR VENDORS, AND TO -- THE CODE SAYS THE
12:11:56PM VENDOR LOCATION CAN BE 10 BY 20.
12:11:58PM THEY ARE ASKING FOR 300 SQUARE FEET PER VENDOR SITE.
12:12:02PM THEY ARE ASKING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE VENDOR LOCATION
12:12:05PM AND ASKING NOT TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.
12:12:08PM EACH YEAR, IF THEY SWITCH OUT A VENDOR, THIS YEAR,
12:12:14PM CONFECTIONS IS THERE -- AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO HAVE
12:12:17PM SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN -- ANOTHER SITE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO
12:12:21PM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
12:12:22PM THEY DID SUBMIT A SITE PLAN.
12:12:29PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
12:12:32PM THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO VENDORS ON FRANKLIN AND THE TWO
12:12:36PM VENDORS ON ZACK STREET.
12:12:40PM SO THIS IS ZACK.
12:12:42PM THIS IS FRANKLIN.
12:12:43PM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE VENDOR CODE
12:12:47PM THAT I CAN ASSIST WITH?
12:12:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:12:52PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:12:55PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO YOU, ERIC, OR TO LEGAL STAFF, SO RIGHT
12:12:59PM NOW, WE ASK FOR IT TO COME BACK ANNUALLY.
12:13:04PM THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS, I THINK I'M READING.
12:13:08PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
12:13:09PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEY WANT UNLIMITED FOREVER.
12:13:12PM >>ERIC COTTON: THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
12:13:15PM AS ONE VENDOR MOVES OUT AND A NEW VENDOR MOVE IN, THEY DON'T
12:13:19PM WANT TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL AND ASK FOR A NEW ANNUAL
12:13:23PM VENDOR PERMIT.
12:13:24PM IT WOULD BE HANDLED AT STAFF LEVEL.
12:13:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVEN IF IT IS THE SAME FOOTPRINT -- OH,
12:13:29PM YOU'RE SAYING THAT STAFF WOULD REVIEW IT.
12:13:31PM >>ERIC COTTON: IT STILL COMES BACK TO STAFF.
12:13:34PM THE WAY IT HAS WORKED IN THE PAST, THE ACCORDY -- ACCARDI
12:13:41PM PROPERTY OWNERS WILL SAY THIS IS A NEW VENDOR.
12:13:45PM WE UPLOAD IT INTO ACELA SO IT REFLECTS THE NEW VENDOR THERE.
12:13:49PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SAME FOOTPRINT.
12:13:50PM >>ERIC COTTON: SAME LOCATION DEPENDING ON WHERE IT WAS
12:13:53PM APPROVED AT PREVIOUSLY.
12:13:54PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST DIFFERENT NAME.
12:13:56PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
12:13:57PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
12:13:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI.
12:14:00PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:14:03PM BASICALLY, THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PROCESS THAT WE
12:14:11PM HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
12:14:13PM AND THAT PROCESS IS THAT EVERY TIME THAT WE CHANGE A VENDOR
12:14:16PM WE HAVE TO RESUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
12:14:19PM WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE THE SAME LOCATIONS REPEATEDLY,
12:14:24PM WHETHER THE VENDORS CHANGE OR NOT.
12:14:26PM AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE, VENDORS LIKE THIS TEND TO BE KIND
12:14:31PM OF TRANSIENT.
12:14:32PM IF A CERTAIN CONCEPT DOESN'T WORK, THEY LEAVE.
12:14:35PM WE WOULD CONSTANTLY BE IN AN APPEAL PROCESS COMING BACK TO
12:14:40PM CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE STAFF CAN'T WAIVE THESE PROVISIONS
12:14:44PM ADMINISTRATIVELY.
12:14:46PM SO WE HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL.
12:14:48PM IT WOULD BE AN APPEAL JUST LIKE THIS ONE IS, AND REQUEST
12:14:51PM THAT WE BE BACK TO APPROVE A DIFFERENT VENDOR IN THE SAME
12:14:56PM LOCATIONS.
12:14:57PM THE PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE FOUR VENDORS.
12:15:01PM EACH OF THEM 300 SQUARE FEET.
12:15:04PM THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT THE TOTAL OF 1200 SQUARE FEET FOR THE
12:15:08PM SITES.
12:15:08PM WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES.
12:15:10PM WE HAVE DIFFERENT FOLIO NUMBERS FOR THESE PROPERTIES, BUT
12:15:15PM IT'S ALL CONTIGUOUS.
12:15:16PM SO WE HAD TWO VENDORS UP HERE ON FRANKLIN STREET AND TWO
12:15:20PM VENDORS DOWN HERE ON ZACK.
12:15:23PM NOT ALL OF THEM ARE ACTIVE ALL OF THE TIME.
12:15:26PM AS I SAID, IT'S A VERY TRANSIENT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
12:15:32PM SO WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE
12:15:37PM THE WAIVERS FOR THE HOURS FOR THE FOUR LOCATIONS SO THAT WE
12:15:42PM CAN ALL HANDLE THIS ADMINISTRATIVELY INSTEAD OF CONTINUALLY
12:15:46PM COMING BACK UNDER APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
12:15:49PM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
12:15:52PM REGARDING THIS.
12:15:53PM WE HAD THE SAME REQUEST EARLIER FOR A COUPLE OF OTHER
12:15:58PM PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN.
12:15:59PM BUT AS THEY MOVE FORWARD REDEVELOPMENT, THEN THE VENDORS
12:16:03PM WOULD DISAPPEAR.
12:16:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MICHELINI?
12:16:08PM YES, SIR.
12:16:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOMEBODY UP HERE, I GUESS MR. MANISCALCO,
12:16:13PM ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THE THERA BOARD MIGHT NOT BE
12:16:22PM THRILLED WITH THIS.
12:16:23PM HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THEM?
12:16:24PM IF NOT, WHAT OBJECTIONS AND ARE THEY HERE?
12:16:27PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M NOT AWARE IF THEY ARE HERE.
12:16:30PM WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY CALLS OR OBJECTIONS FROM ANYONE.
12:16:33PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEM?
12:16:36PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS AN ISSUE UNTIL
12:16:38PM THIS MORNING.
12:16:39PM WE SENT OUT THE NOTICE AND WE SENT OUT OVER 400 AND SOME ODD
12:16:43PM NOTICES BECAUSE OF THE DOWNTOWN LOCATION, AND WE NOTICED --
12:16:46PM WE ACTUALLY NOTICED TWICE.
12:16:48PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE OWNERS.
12:16:53PM WE, THE CITY ARE OWNERS.
12:16:55PM NOT SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF IT IF THEY HAD A BIG OBJECTION.
12:16:59PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: ALSO HAVE SIGNS POSTED ON FRANKLIN STREET
12:17:02PM AND ON ZACK STREET.
12:17:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO CLARIFY, BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING
12:17:06PM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY LIKE FOOD TRUCKS?
12:17:08PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
12:17:09PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE ON THE APPLICATION, IT SAYS
12:17:11PM PRODUCTS TO BE SOLD HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED.
12:17:15PM THAT WAS IN RED, THE RESPONSE FROM STAFF.
12:17:18PM WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE?
12:17:20PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S A FOOD FIRE TRUCK.
12:17:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THESE ARE FOR FOOD TRUCKS.
12:17:24PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
12:17:25PM THEY DON'T ALL OPERATE, LIKE I SAID, AT THE SAME TIME.
12:17:27PM THEY MAY NOT EVEN LEASE.
12:17:29PM WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THESE OTHER ONES WHERE WE HAVE
12:17:32PM APPROVAL TO PUT IN FOOD TRUCKS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T LEASED OUT
12:17:37PM THE SPOTS.
12:17:37PM AND THE SIZE IS REALLY TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF THE SIDEWALK SO
12:17:43PM WHEN PEOPLE ARE WALKING UP TO THE FOOD TRUCK, THEY DON'T
12:17:46PM BLOCK THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY AND SO WE CAN PUT IN THE PROPER
12:17:50PM SOLID WASTE CONTAINERS FOR COLLECTING TRASH AND DEBRIS.
12:17:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
12:17:55PM SO LET'S SAY FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, GET A GREAT FOOD TRUCK
12:18:01PM THAT'S DOING TREMENDOUSLY SUCCESSFUL, CAN THEY SIT THERE 365
12:18:05PM DAYS A YEAR UNDER THIS PERMIT?
12:18:07PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO?
12:18:11PM YES.
12:18:12PM AS LONG AS THEY MEET -- WELL, THERE ARE OTHER CRITERIA THEY
12:18:14PM HAVE TO MEET.
12:18:15PM THEY HAVE TO MEET THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CRITERIA FOR
12:18:18PM MAINTAINING THEIR VEHICLES AND ALL OF THE SAFETY PROVISIONS
12:18:22PM IN THERE FOR FOOD DELIVERY SERVICES.
12:18:25PM THEY ALSO HAVE TO MEET THE CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR TRASH AND
12:18:28PM DEBRIS AND MAINTAINING THE CONTAINERS SO THAT THEY ARE
12:18:31PM EMPTIED PROPERLY AND PICKED UP.
12:18:33PM THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE OTHER SERVICES.
12:18:35PM THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO SANITARY FACILITY, WATER,
12:18:42PM FOR EXAMPLE.
12:18:45PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW DO YOU GET GARBAGE CONTAINERS IF
12:18:48PM YOU'RE NOT REALLY THERE?
12:18:50PM TYPICALLY, GARBAGE DOESN'T COME OUT FOR AN EMPTY LOT.
12:18:57PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, BUT WE HAVE ADDRESSES.
12:18:59PM THEY APPLY FOR A SERVICE AND PAY SOLID WASTE FEES.
12:19:02PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAS THAT BEEN THE CASE SO FAR?
12:19:04PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
12:19:05PM THEY EITHER DO THAT OR TAKE IT OFF OF THE PREMISES AND TAKE
12:19:08PM IT TO A COLLECTION CENTER THAT THEY PAY FOR AS WELL.
12:19:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:19:12PM THANK YOU.
12:19:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:19:13PM THANK YOU.
12:19:15PM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MICHELINI?
12:19:18PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.
12:19:18PM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
12:19:21PM HAVE.
12:19:22PM AS I SAID, AS THEY TRANSITION OUT, THEN THEY ARE REPLACED.
12:19:27PM SOMETIMES THEY REMAIN VACANT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LEASE OUT.
12:19:30PM BUT THEY ALSO ARE INVOLVED IN PROMOTIONS FOR THE CITY OF
12:19:33PM TAMPA FOR VARIOUS FUND-RAISERS FOR CHARITIES AND OTHER
12:19:38PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:19:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:19:40PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION.
12:19:41PM THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONTRADICTION.
12:19:43PM IT SAYS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN SHOWS 300 SQUARE FEET FOR A
12:19:47PM TOTAL OF 1200 SQUARE FEET.
12:19:49PM FURTHER DOWN UNDER NUMBER 11.1 OR DOT I, IT SAYS THE REQUEST
12:19:57PM IS FOR NO SIZE LIMITATION.
12:20:00PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, THE SIZE LIMITATION IS THERE.
12:20:02PM IT'S 300 SQUARE FEET.
12:20:03PM THAT IS A WAIVER OF THE CITY REQUIREMENT.
12:20:06PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR VEHICLE OR TEMPORARY
12:20:09PM STRUCTURE COULD BE UP TO 300 SQUARE FEET.
12:20:12PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
12:20:12PM IT WILL BE WITHIN THE ENVELOPE AS DESCRIBED AND SHOWN ON THE
12:20:15PM SITE PLAN.
12:20:16PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
12:20:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:20:18PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:20:19PM ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 60?
12:20:21PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
12:20:22PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:20:25PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:20:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:28PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:20:28PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:20:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS JUST FOR 60.
12:20:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:20:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TITLE IS PETITION FOR REVIEW --
12:21:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I SAID -- I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING
12:21:06PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION --
12:21:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EN --
12:21:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: VEN 19-72, 707 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET BECAUSE
12:21:28PM THE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION, THAT THE
12:21:31PM WAIVER GRANTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL
12:21:33PM STANDARDS SET FORTH IN 29-129 AT TIME OF PERMITTING THE SITE
12:21:37PM PLAN MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE CODES AND TECHNICAL STANDARDS
12:21:40PM SEE SECTION 2961B AND 27127B 2.
12:21:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:21:48PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:21:49PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:21:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:21:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:22:01PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO ABSTAINING AND
12:22:05PM MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.
12:22:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAM.
12:22:10PM 61.
12:22:12PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
12:22:14PM THIS IS A PETITIONER FOR REVIEW FOR VEN 19-71, PROPERTY AT
12:22:20PM 801 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
12:22:22PM JUST A CORRECTION ON THE STAFF REPORT, ON PAGE 2, SAYS NORTH
12:22:26PM FRANKLIN STREET, IT SHOULD SAY NORTH ASHLEY.
12:22:30PM THE APPLICATION IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WAS JUST HEARD.
12:22:34PM THIS IS A SQUARE BLOCK ALONG ASHLEY, POLK, TAMPA, AND CASS
12:22:40PM STREET.
12:22:41PM IN THIS CASE, ON THE SITE PLAN, THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VENDOR
12:22:46PM AT EACH OF THE FOUR CORNERS.
12:22:50PM AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO ACCESS A
12:22:55PM STREET THAT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE VENDOR ORDINANCE TO
12:23:00PM INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 600 TO 1200
12:23:04PM SQUARE FEET.
12:23:04PM THE HOURS FROM -- INSTEAD OF BEING FROM DAWN TO DUSK FROM
12:23:08PM BEING FROM DAWN TO MIDNIGHT.
12:23:09PM INCREASE HAD THE NUMBER OF VENDORS FROM ONE VENDOR PER THE
12:23:12PM ZONING LOT TO THE FOUR VENDORS.
12:23:14PM INCREASE THE SIZE FROM 10 BY 20 TO UNLIMITED SIZE BUT PER
12:23:18PM THE SITE PLAN TO 300 SQUARE FEET AND NO NEED FOR THE ANNUAL
12:23:23PM RENEWAL, SO THEY WOULD NOT COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL EACH YEAR
12:23:26PM TO ASK FOR THE WAIVERS.
12:23:31PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
12:23:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:23:34PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:23:35PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. COTTON I GUESS THIS WOULD APPLY TO
12:23:41PM EITHER ONE OR PERHAPS ANYBODY WHO IS DOING THIS, BUT WE HAVE
12:23:48PM THIS -- I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THEORETICALLY NOW THIS ONE
12:23:51PM ASKS FOR FOUR CORNERS, POTENTIALLY 365 DAYS A YEAR.
12:23:57PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE RESTROOM FACILITY, CORRECT?
12:24:01PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
12:24:02PM IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
12:24:04PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS, THIS FOOD TRUCK THING IS COOL
12:24:12PM AND NEAT ON ONE HAND BUT I FEEL SORRY FOR THE EXISTING
12:24:15PM BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHO ARE PAYING SIGNIFICANT
12:24:18PM RENT AND HAVE TO PROVIDE RESTROOM FACILITIES AND I DON'T
12:24:26PM KNOW WHAT ELSE THE HEALTH CODE REQUIRES AND THAT SORT OF
12:24:30PM THING.
12:24:31PM I'M SURE YOU ARE A LANDLORD OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESTAURANTS.
12:24:39PM SO I JUST WONDER.
12:24:41PM >> I OWN EIGHT BUILDINGS ON FRANKLIN STREET WHERE I HAVE
12:24:44PM TENANTS.
12:24:44PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
12:24:45PM YOU'VE GOT IT ON BOTH SIDES.
12:24:48PM I WONDER HOW THIS IS FAIR TO THE HARD SCAPE RESTAURANTS THAT
12:24:54PM ARE THERE.
12:24:56PM >> JASON ACCARDI.
12:24:58PM GOOD QUESTION.
12:25:01PM YEAH, I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
12:25:03PM WE OWN REAL ESTATE AND OPERATE PARKING THROUGHOUT THE
12:25:07PM COUNTRY IN VERY LARGE CITIES, NOT ONLY FROM A MARKETING AND
12:25:10PM ADVERTISING PERSPECTIVE, ONE THING THAT STEVE TALK ABOUT A
12:25:12PM LITTLE BIT IT'S NOT REALLY JUST ABOUT FOOD VENDORS.
12:25:16PM IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE THAT PROMOTE TAMPA.
12:25:17PM IT COULD BE SOMEBODY DURING AN EVENT THAT WOULD WANT TO GO
12:25:21PM THERE.
12:25:22PM WE'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS HERE, FROM THE
12:25:25PM APPLICATION PROCESS, FROM HAVING TO COME BACK HERE.
12:25:28PM YEAH, I THINK WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
12:25:31PM I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD OTHER PERMITS IN DOWNTOWN THAT WE'VE
12:25:34PM HAD FOOD VENDORS, SOME HAVE MADE IT.
12:25:37PM SOME HAVEN'T.
12:25:38PM I HAVEN'T SEEN -- I'M ON FRANKLIN STREET ALL THE TIME, MY
12:25:43PM TENANTS AND OTHERS, I NEVER HAD ANYBODY COME UP TO ME AND
12:25:47PM SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS HURTING MY BUSINESS.
12:25:50PM I NEVER HEARD THAT, I GUESS.
12:25:52PM ACTUALLY, I THINK LAST COUNCIL WAS PROMOTING FOR ME TO TAKE
12:25:56PM ONE OF THE LOTS WE HAD DOWNTOWN AND MAKE THE WHOLE THING A
12:25:59PM VENDOR MARKET.
12:26:00PM THE LAST HEARING WE HAD ON THIS.
12:26:02PM OUR GOAL IS TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE
12:26:05PM PROPERLY LICENSED AND GET THE PROPER PERMITS THROUGH THE
12:26:08PM CITY OF TAMPA AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT STEVE MENTIONED
12:26:11PM AS WELL.
12:26:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M A REGULAR OVER THERE AT THE PIZZA
12:26:13PM PLACE, THE NEW YORK PIZZA ON THE CORNER THERE.
12:26:17PM LATE NIGHT, MIDNIGHT, MY WIFE AND I WILL SWING BY THERE AND
12:26:22PM GRAB A SLICE OR TWO.
12:26:23PM YOU ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.
12:26:25PM IF THERE WAS A LITTLE PIZZA FOOD TRUCK RIGHT ACROSS THE
12:26:29PM STREET AND IF I OWNED THE NEW YORK PIZZA THERE, I MIGHT FEEL
12:26:32PM A LITTLE DISTURBED BY THAT.
12:26:34PM BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS, BUT THIS IS HOW MY MIND
12:26:38PM WORKS.
12:26:39PM >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TODAY THAT'S GOING TO BE IN ANY OF
12:26:45PM THESE SPOTS.
12:26:46PM WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PERMIT IT SO THAT IF WE DO HAVE
12:26:47PM SOMEBODY IT STREAMLINES THE PROCESS.
12:26:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW WE WILL GET ASKED THIS QUESTION, SO I
12:26:54PM FIGURE I'LL ASK YOU IT NOW.
12:26:55PM WILL APPROVING THIS IN ANY WAY DELAY YOUR INTEREST IN
12:26:59PM DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY?
12:27:01PM >> NOT AT ALL.
12:27:02PM OUR GOAL IS TO DEVELOP A LOT.
12:27:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI.
12:27:11PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE
12:27:13PM PRESENTATION?
12:27:15PM THE WAIVER IS BASICALLY AS JASON MENTIONED.
12:27:17PM I SAID A MINUTE AGO, IS TO REALLY TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS
12:27:20PM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE ON AN APPEAL BASIS.
12:27:28PM AGAIN, WE HAVE FOUR DESIGNATED LOCATIONS, EACH 300 SQUARE
12:27:32PM FEET WITH A TOTAL OF 1200 SQUARE FEET.
12:27:34PM AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE WAIVERS SO WE CAN MARKET THE SITES
12:27:40PM AND THE TURNOVER REGARDING FOOD TRUCKS IS VERY HIGH.
12:27:44PM IF A CONCEPT DOESN'T WORK, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE VERY
12:27:48PM LONG.
12:27:48PM IN ADDITION TO THAT YOU HAVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT LIKELY
12:27:54PM TO BE OPEN LATE AT NIGHT IF THERE'S NO TRAFFIC.
12:27:57PM SO THESE LOCATIONS REALLY CATER TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS
12:28:03PM EMPLOYEES, AND THEY WANT A QUICK BITE.
12:28:05PM THEY JUMP OVER THERE, GRAB WHAT THEY WANT AND GO.
12:28:09PM EACH OF THE SITES WILL HAVE THEIR OWN GARBAGE AND SOLID
12:28:11PM WASTE COLLECTION, AND THEY WILL BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED IN
12:28:14PM ACCORDANCE WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE CITY OF
12:28:18PM TAMPA CODE.
12:28:19PM IT WILL SHIFT THE RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE COUNCIL AS AN
12:28:22PM APPEAL BODY BACK TO THE CITY STAFF AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE
12:28:27PM PROCESS.
12:28:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MICHELINI?
12:28:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MICHELINI, WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT
12:28:34PM THESE WILL BE SOME SORT OF MOBILE FOOD SHOPS.
12:28:37PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
12:28:38PM PROPERLY PERMITTED THROUGH THE STATE.
12:28:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY WILL NOT CHANGE -- EXCUSE ME, THE USE
12:28:44PM WILL NOT CHANGE.
12:28:45PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.
12:28:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR SOME REASON IF A FOOD TRUCK MOVES OUT,
12:28:50PM YOU WON'T HAVE A LITTLE VAPING.
12:28:53PM IT IS STRICTLY FOOD TRUCK.
12:28:55PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES.
12:28:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE FOR ANOTHER 15 MINUTES.
12:29:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: CLERK, STAFF, EVERYBODY OKAY WITH 15?
12:29:03PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
12:29:11PM CARLSON.
12:29:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:13PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:29:13PM ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
12:29:19PM OKAY.
12:29:19PM NOTHING FURTHER?
12:29:20PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
12:29:22PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
12:29:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM
12:29:25PM 61.
12:29:25PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
12:29:27PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:29:29PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:29:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:33PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:29:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION TO GRANT THIS PERMIT E
12:29:45PM 2019-8, CHAPTER 27, THE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE
12:29:50PM PETITION, IF GRANTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE
12:29:53PM GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH HEREIN IN 27-129 AT TIME OF
12:29:57PM PERMITTING, THE SITE PLAN MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE CODE AND
12:30:01PM TECHNICAL STANDARDS SECTION 2761B AND 27127B 2.
12:30:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THIS A MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING
12:30:09PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT?
12:30:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THEREFORE GRANTING THE PERMIT.
12:30:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:30:18PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:30:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:30:22PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:30:24PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.
12:30:27PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
12:30:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 62, WHICH OTHER THAN
12:30:33PM MR. SHELBY'S REPORT, WILL BE THE LAST ONE.
12:30:37PM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU.
12:30:38PM REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:30:40PM ITEM NUMBER 62 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW OF ZONING
12:30:43PM ADMINISTRATOR DECISION REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF A FENCE.
12:30:46PM IT WAS A REQUEST FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR THE HEIGHT OF A
12:30:49PM FENCE.
12:30:49PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOUND THAT IT DID NOT MEET THE
12:30:52PM GENERAL CRITERIA, WHICH ARE CONTAINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT,
12:30:55PM HOWEVER, THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW, SO THE PETITIONER HAS THE
12:30:59PM OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU WITH NEW EVIDENCE TO JUSTIFY
12:31:03PM THIS.
12:31:04PM I WILL PASS OUT SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU AND ALSO TURN IT OVER
12:31:07PM TO STAFF.
12:31:11PM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:31:12PM ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
12:31:14PM THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR DE1-19-259 FOR PROPERTY AT
12:31:22PM 6908 NORTH 19th STREET.
12:31:24PM THE APPLICANT IS DAVID GRAY.
12:31:25PM THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF A FENCE IN
12:31:27PM THE FRONT YARD FROM THREE FEET TO SIX FEET.
12:31:29PM PER SECTION 27290.1, FENCED-IN WALL REGULATIONS, THE MAXIMUM
12:31:33PM HEIGHT IN THE FRONT YARD FOR A FENCE -- FOR A SOLID FENCE IS
12:31:37PM ALLOWED TO BE THREE FEET.
12:31:39PM THEY ARE ASKING TO GO TO SIX.
12:31:40PM STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST.
12:31:42PM INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO STAFF AT THE TIME TO
12:31:47PM SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
12:31:47PM THIS IS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:31:49PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
12:31:55PM THIS IS ACTUALLY 19th, WHICH YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THE
12:31:58PM STREET BECAUSE OF THE TREE COVERAGE.
12:32:02PM I DO HAVE PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
12:32:07PM THIS IS FROM 19th LOOKING AT THE FENCE ITSELF.
12:32:12PM IT IS A WOODEN FENCE, CROSS SLATS, SOLID ALONG THE LENGTH OF
12:32:15PM THE PROPERTY.
12:32:16PM YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER VIEW OF THE FENCE.
12:32:23PM THAT HE DIDN'T THIS IS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
12:32:25PM THE TWO PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET, SAME STYLE HOME.
12:32:30PM I BELIEVE THEY ARE FOUR-FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCES, AND THIS IS
12:32:34PM THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
12:32:36PM TO THE SOUTH OF THEM IS AN OPEN AREA OF TREES.
12:32:40PM MIGHT BE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
12:32:41PM I'M NOT SURE HONESTLY WHO THAT BELONGS TO.
12:32:44PM BUT THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THEM.
12:32:46PM LET ME SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN.
12:32:50PM SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OF THE PROPERTY.
12:32:57PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CROSS STREETS ARE HERE AND UP TO THE
12:33:01PM NORTH.
12:33:01PM THIS IS THE FENCE THAT RUNS ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE
12:33:04PM PROPERTY.
12:33:05PM THE CORNER LOT, ANOTHER PROPERTY AT THE CORNER CURRENTLY NOT
12:33:08PM DEVELOPED.
12:33:09PM COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN TRY TO ANSWER FOR YOU?
12:33:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:33:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHOW ME THE FRONT END OF THE PETITIONER'S
12:33:18PM HOUSE?
12:33:19PM >>ERIC COTTON: THIS IS THE FENCE THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO
12:33:24PM KEEP.
12:33:25PM THE FENCE IS ALREADY UP.
12:33:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS MY QUESTION, WAS THE FENCE ALREADY
12:33:29PM UP?
12:33:30PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
12:33:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:33:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:33:32PM PETITIONER?
12:33:37PM >> HELLO.
12:33:38PM THANK YOU.
12:33:38PM I'M DAVID GRAY.
12:33:39PM I RESIDE AT 6908 NORTH 19th STREET.
12:33:43PM THAT'S A HOUSE MY PARENTS BUILT IN 1996.
12:33:46PM THEY LIVED THERE UNTIL THEY PASSED AWAY.
12:33:50PM AND WHEN THEY BUILT IT, THEY HAD A SIX-FOOT FENCE UP, WHICH
12:33:54PM AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, IT HAD FALLEN INTO DISREPAIR SO I
12:33:59PM REPLACED IT WITH THE FENCE THAT YOU SAW FROM MR. COTTON.
12:34:03PM I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD THIS FANCY TECHNOLOGY.
12:34:07PM I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT MORE PICTURES, HUNDREDS.
12:34:09PM ANYWAY, LIKE I SAY, I LIVE AT 6908.
12:34:14PM I REPLACED THE FENCE.
12:34:15PM THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THE HOUSE, IT'S ACTUALLY THE SIDE OF
12:34:18PM THE HOUSE IS ON 19th STREET.
12:34:19PM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FACES SLIGH AVENUE.
12:34:24PM THIS IS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:34:26PM THIS IS NOT THE FANCY PART OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:34:31PM WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
12:34:33PM IT'S THE FUNKY PART OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:34:36PM AND THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE PROPERTY.
12:34:39PM THERE IS A SPRING ON IT, FRESHWATER SPRING, A CREEK THAT
12:34:43PM MEANDERS DOWN SEVERAL BLOCKS AWAY TO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
12:34:46PM SO ONE OF MY GOALS IN HAVING A LARGE FENCE IS TO KEEP
12:34:52PM PEOPLE, KIDS, TRASH, LITTER OUT OF THAT CREEK.
12:34:56PM AND COMPOUNDING THAT, THERE HAPPENS TO BE A SCHOOL BUS STOP
12:35:01PM RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SPRING.
12:35:02PM EVERY MORNING, THERE ARE SCHOOLKIDS GATHERED AROUND.
12:35:05PM AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S LOTS OF LITTER AND COMMOTION AND
12:35:09PM EVERYTHING.
12:35:09PM I THINK THE HIGHER FENCE DOES SERVE AS PROTECTION FOR THE
12:35:15PM CREEK AND FOR THE KIDS.
12:35:17PM NO ONE FALLS IN THE CREEK AND IS HURT.
12:35:22PM BASICALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW LEGAL OR WHAT THIS IS, BUT, YOU
12:35:28PM KNOW, I SENT OUT ALL THOSE LETTERS TO MY NEIGHBORS, AND I
12:35:32PM DIDN'T KNOW I HAD SO MANY NEIGHBORS.
12:35:35PM LIKE 40 LETTERS.
12:35:36PM I GOT A LETTER BACK REGARDING THE PETITION.
12:35:39PM IT SAYS, HI, DAVID.
12:35:40PM I LIVE AT 6914, A FEW HOUSES DOWN.
12:35:44PM WE'VE MET ONCE OR TWICE.
12:35:46PM I SAW THAT LETTER IN THE MAILBOX AND THOUGHT I'D SHARE MY
12:35:49PM OPINION.
12:35:50PM I LOVE YOUR FENCE.
12:35:51PM AS SOON AS YOU PUT IT UP, I THOUGHT IT CHANGED THE ENTIRE
12:35:55PM STREET FOR THE BETTER.
12:35:56PM PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP IN ANY WAY WITH YOUR
12:35:59PM PETITION.
12:36:00PM CERTAINLY HOPE NO ONE, INCLUDING THE CITY, HAS ANY PROBLEM
12:36:03PM WITH IT.
12:36:04PM LET ME KNOW.
12:36:05PM ALL THE BEST, DERRICK WARNER.
12:36:08PM 6914.
12:36:10PM I ASKED IF I COULD SHARE THIS AND HE SAID FINE.
12:36:14PM HE COULDN'T BE HERE.
12:36:15PM BASICALLY, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
12:36:17PM I'M GOING FOR KEEPING MY FENCE AS IS.
12:36:22PM I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
12:36:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:36:25PM ANY QUESTIONS?
12:36:26PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
12:36:30PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [INAUDIBLE]
12:36:38PM >> THIS IS A NEIGHBOR, YES.
12:36:40PM FOR THE PUBLIC PORTION.
12:36:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S PUBLIC COMMENT LATER ON.
12:36:47PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPECIFICALLY ON THIS?
12:36:48PM LET ME ASK THE GENTLEMAN A QUESTION.
12:36:55PM EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING THEIR
12:37:00PM PROPERTY AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT -- WHAT WAS THERE
12:37:06PM BEFORE YOU PUT UP A SIX-FOOT FENCE?
12:37:09PM >> A SIX-FOOT FENCE.
12:37:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHAIN-LINK?
12:37:12PM >> CHAIN-LINK AND IT WAS OVERRUN WITH VINES.
12:37:15PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU HAVE INCIDENCES OF PEOPLE
12:37:21PM CRAWLING OVER THAT FENCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
12:37:24PM >> YEAH.
12:37:25PM THERE WERE SAGGY, DROOPY AREAS OF THE FENCE, AND THERE HAVE
12:37:28PM BEEN INCIDENCES WHERE KIDS HAVE BEEN HAVING PARTIES IN THE
12:37:32PM CREEK WHEN I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
12:37:35PM YES, SIR, THERE HAVE BEEN.
12:37:37PM PEOPLE INTRUDING ON THE PROPERTY.
12:37:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU FEEL YOUR SITUATION IS UNIQUE.
12:37:45PM ARE YOU THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS THE CREEK AND THAT SORT OF
12:37:50PM THING?
12:37:51PM >> WELL, IT'S A UNIQUE PROPERTY.
12:37:54PM CHUNK OF PROPERTY, 19th STREET AND SLIGH HAS BEEN IN THE
12:37:57PM FAMILY FOR LIKE 80 YEARS.
12:37:59PM MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO OWN THE FRONT PART, AND THAT WAS
12:38:06PM ACTUALLY PASSED TO OTHER HANDS.
12:38:08PM MY PARENTS GOT THE BACK PART.
12:38:11PM THAT'S WHERE THEY BUILT THE HOUSE FACES SLIGH, BECAUSE IT
12:38:14PM WAS ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY.
12:38:16PM I GUESS IN '96, IT WASN'T ZONING -- IT WASN'T RESTRICTED.
12:38:23PM BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I HEARD THAT THERE WAS A
12:38:27PM DEVELOPMENT -- SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE FRONT PROPERTY.
12:38:29PM THEY WANTED TO PUT IN FIVE HOUSES, AND I THINK THEY'VE
12:38:33PM GOTTEN SHOT DOWN.
12:38:34PM AND BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE SPRING AND WATERWAY, IT SEEMS LIKE
12:38:38PM THEY CAN'T REALLY BUILD ANYTHING UP THERE.
12:38:44PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I TAKE IT THERE WAS NO PERMIT PULLED FOR
12:38:46PM THE FENCE.
12:38:47PM >> THERE WAS NOT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN
12:38:50PM SINCE THE FENCE HAD BEEN THERE SINCE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
12:38:53PM HOUSE.
12:38:55PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
12:38:58PM PERMITS ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR FENCES UNLESS IT IS A WALL THAT
12:39:01PM REQUIRES FOOTERS.
12:39:02PM STANDARD CHAIN-LINK OR WOOD FENCE WOULD NOT REQUIRE A
12:39:04PM PERMIT.
12:39:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DIDN'T THERE USED TO BE A FENCE PERMIT?
12:39:08PM >>ERIC COTTON: THERE WAS, NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY.
12:39:12PM PRIOR TO 1999 THERE WERE, BUT NOT ANYMORE THERE ARE NO FENCE
12:39:16PM PERMITS REQUIRED.
12:39:19PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
12:39:21PM THANK YOU.
12:39:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:39:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL GO ABOUT IT THIS WAY.
12:39:25PM DID YOU ERECT THE FENCE YOURSELF OR DID YOU HAVE A
12:39:28PM CONTRACTOR DO IT?
12:39:29PM >> I DIDN'T DO IT -- A FENCE COMPANY DID IT.
12:39:32PM YEAH.
12:39:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID THEY RAISE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT
12:39:37PM OF THE FENCE?
12:39:38PM >> MY PARTNER ACTUALLY DID EVERYTHING, PUT THE FENCE UP.
12:39:41PM I WASN'T INVOLVED IN ALL THE SPECIFICS, BUT I KIND OF GAVE
12:39:46PM HIM CARTE BLANCHE, YEAH, PUT UP A FENCE.
12:39:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:39:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:39:50PM OKAY.
12:39:50PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:39:51PM WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:39:52PM IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 62?
12:39:56PM I KNOW ONE NICE LADY IS HERE.
12:39:59PM >> OH, IT'S MY TURN.
12:40:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE.
12:40:01PM >> HOPE I DON'T FALL.
12:40:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: HI, MA'AM.
12:40:04PM IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
12:40:06PM WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
12:40:07PM >> I LIKE THE FENCE.
12:40:10PM I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT FENCE, AND I'VE BEEN
12:40:16PM THERE 53 YEARS BEFORE IT WAS BUILT, THE HOUSE.
12:40:22PM AND WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, THE CITY GAVE THE PERMIT TO
12:40:27PM FACE THE HOUSE TO SLIGH.
12:40:32PM I GOT THE BACK DOOR, AND THIS FENCE MAKES IT LOOK NICE, AND
12:40:41PM EVERYBODY THAT HAS SEEN IT LIKES IT.
12:40:45PM MY SON LIVES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:40:48PM HE WANTS TO HAVE THE FENCE JUST LIKE THAT BUILT AROUND HIS
12:40:53PM HOUSE.
12:40:56PM >> TELL THEM YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
12:40:58PM >> MY NAME IS SUSIE SCHWINDT.
12:41:01PM 6903 NORTH 19th STREET.
12:41:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:41:06PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:41:07PM ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
12:41:10PM ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY?
12:41:13PM >> I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
12:41:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY?
12:41:17PM >> I STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU.
12:41:19PM >> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE?
12:41:21PM >> HUH?
12:41:23PM >> I THINK SHE'S DONE.
12:41:26PM >> AM I DONE?
12:41:27PM >> YES, THANK YOU.
12:41:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:41:30PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:41:31PM ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 62?
12:41:36PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
12:41:39PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:41:41PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:41:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:41:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:41:45PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ONE?
12:41:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:41:50PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
12:41:55PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION.
12:41:59PM FILE NUMBER E2019-8 CHAPTER 27.
12:42:02PM DE1-19-259.
12:42:09PM BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION IS
12:42:13PM CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH
12:42:16PM HEREIN 27-60E --
12:42:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL SECOND THAT.
12:42:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU WANT TO SAY
12:42:26PM SOMETHING, SIR?
12:42:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NORMALLY, I THINK A SIX-FOOT FENCE,
12:42:30PM ESPECIALLY A SOLID WOOD OPAQUE FENCE IN A FRONT YARD ON A
12:42:34PM STREET LIKE THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY WANTS TO
12:42:37PM GO, AND IT DOES CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PRECEDENT.
12:42:41PM HOWEVER, I'LL VOTE FOR THIS AND SUPPORT THIS FOR TWO
12:42:46PM REASONS.
12:42:47PM NUMBER ONE, THE EXISTING -- LOOKING AT THE PICTURES IT LOOKS
12:42:50PM LIKE THERE WAS A SIX-FOOT FENCE EXISTING, CHAIN-LINK, SO
12:42:55PM AESTHETICALLY, THIS IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN THE CHAIN-LINK.
12:42:58PM AND NUMBER TWO, IT DOES SEEM THAT THERE'S AN UNUSUAL
12:43:02PM SITUATION WITH THE CREEK AND THE CHILDREN AND THE SCHOOL BUS
12:43:05PM AND THAT SORT OF THING.
12:43:07PM WITH THOSE SPECIFIC CRITERIA IDENTIFIED, I'LL SUPPORT THE
12:43:13PM MOTION.
12:43:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:43:15PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
12:43:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:43:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:43:22PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.
12:43:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:43:25PM NOW TO OUR FINAL ITEM, MR. SHELBY, WITH REGARDS TO SULPHUR
12:43:29PM SPRINGS, I BELIEVE.
12:43:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO DEFER TO COUNCILMAN GUDES,
12:43:34PM PLEASE, ON THIS ISSUE.
12:43:39PM [INAUDIBLE]
12:43:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, WE'VE HAD QUITE CHALLENGES AT TIMES
12:43:45PM GETTING THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
12:43:46PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, THAT COUNCIL HAVE IN EACH
12:43:54PM QUARTER, A SPECIAL MEETING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN GO TO EACH
12:43:58PM ONE OF THE FOUR DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
12:44:01PM I THINK THAT GIVES THE COMMUNITY A SENSE THAT WE'RE
12:44:04PM LISTENING.
12:44:04PM WE'RE THERE, AND WE'RE THERE FOR THEM.
12:44:07PM SO I'D LIKE TO PUT A PROPOSAL THAT WE LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS
12:44:10PM TO PUT FOUR SPECIAL MEETINGS IN THE COMMUNITY DURING THE
12:44:19PM YEAR.
12:44:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU KNOW I'M TOTALLY IN
12:44:24PM FAVOR OF THIS.
12:44:25PM HOWEVER, I WAS AT A MEETING, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, BUT WE
12:44:29PM HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PUBLICLY NOTICED BY THE CITY
12:44:35PM AND THAT THERE IS SOMEONE THERE TO EITHER TAKE MINUTES IN
12:44:40PM WRITING OR ON FILM.
12:44:42PM I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SUNSHINE LAWS.
12:44:45PM BUT, NO, I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU.
12:44:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK NOW THAT WE'RE GOING IN A DIFFERENT
12:44:50PM DIRECTION, THIS IS A DIFFERENT COUNCIL, AND ELECTED
12:44:53PM OFFICIALS, IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO MEET THE PEOPLE.
12:44:56PM SO WE MAKE THAT -- WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A
12:45:03PM ROAD TO GO DOWN AND WE CAN GET THERE.
12:45:05PM I BELIEVE WE CAN GET THERE AND I BELIEVE WITH AMPLE TIME,
12:45:07PM THE ADMINISTRATION CAN WORK WITH US TO GET THIS DONE AS FAR
12:45:10PM AS HAVING SOMEONE THERE TO PROPERLY TAKE THE MINUTES AND
12:45:13PM VIDEOTAPE IT IF POSSIBLE.
12:45:14PM IF NOT, IF THE VIDEO --
12:45:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TAPE-RECORDED.
12:45:22PM THEY DO NEED TO HAVE MINUTES TAKEN.
12:45:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:45:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT GOING TO SAY TRULY NOVEL.
12:45:29PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WELL MARKETED.
12:45:34PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLUGGED INTO THE FIVE OR TEN
12:45:39PM OR FIFTEEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT
12:45:43PM QUADRANT.
12:45:44PM WHATEVER THEY ARE.
12:45:45PM AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE
12:45:48PM THIS THE LAST TIME WHEN WE TRIED TO DO IT IN EAST TAMPA IS
12:45:51PM THAT WE HAVE SOME KIND OF SPECIFIC AGENDA FOR THAT
12:45:57PM PARTICULAR MEETING.
12:45:58PM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE GO TO MR. CARLSON'S DISTRICT
12:46:03PM IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND WE ORGANIZE THE MEETING DOWN THERE, KATE
12:46:07PM JACKSON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12:46:08PM MAYBE WHAT WE WOULD DO SPECIFICALLY IS SAY, OKAY, THERE ARE
12:46:12PM TEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DOWN HERE IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT
12:46:14PM ARE REAL ACTIVE.
12:46:15PM EACH OF YOU GET THREE MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION IN
12:46:18PM FRONT OF COUNCIL, IF YOU SO DESIRE, ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT
12:46:22PM ARE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12:46:24PM THAT WAY WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE MEAT TO CHEW ON.
12:46:27PM I THROW THAT OUT AS AN EXAMPLE.
12:46:30PM IN EAST TAMPA, IT MIGHT BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT AGENDA, BUT
12:46:33PM LET'S NOT JUST WALK IN AND HOLD HANDS AND THAT SORT OF THING
12:46:37PM AND NOT HAVE SOMETHING --
12:46:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS A GREAT IDEA AND IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT
12:46:45PM ON COUNCILMAN GUDES AND ALL OF US SEPARATELY, OBVIOUSLY, TO
12:46:50PM WORK ON THE SPECIFICS OF IT.
12:46:51PM WE CAN VOTE ON THE STRUCTURE OF IT AND THEN WORKING WITH
12:46:54PM MR. SHELBY, ET CETERA, ON WHAT COMES FIRST.
12:47:00PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK EACH DISTRICT COUNCIL PERSON
12:47:02PM SHOULD TAKE IT ON THEMSELVES TO RUN THAT DISTRICT MEETING,
12:47:05PM ORGANIZE THE AGENDA, MARKET IT, AND THE THREE AT-LARGE WILL
12:47:10PM COME ALONG FOR THE RIDE, RIGHT, GENTLEMEN?
12:47:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS OUR DUTY.
12:47:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: STATING THE OBVIOUS, OUR JOB IS TO LISTEN TO
12:47:20PM THE PUBLIC AND THEN TRY TO IMPLEMENT WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.
12:47:23PM WE TRY TO DO THAT HERE BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN GET TO THE
12:47:26PM MEETINGS.
12:47:27PM I THINK THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF WHAT WE DO.
12:47:29PM THE OBSTACLES OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING WE
12:47:34PM NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DEFINITELY FOLLOW THE LAW, AND MAYBE
12:47:36PM EVEN SURPASS IT, BUT THESE ARE THINGS EASILY SOLVED AS LONG
12:47:41PM AS WE SAY THAT WE WANT TO DO THIS.
12:47:43PM I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS.
12:47:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT
12:47:50PM EFFECT, SIR?
12:47:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MOTION THAT WE HAVE -- MR. CHAIR, LIKE TO
12:48:00PM MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PREPARE QUARTERLY
12:48:05PM MEETINGS FOR EACH DISTRICT AS IT RELATES TO THE CONCERNS OF
12:48:08PM OUR CITIZENS, AND EACH DISTRICT PERSON BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
12:48:11PM SETTING THE AGENDA FOR THE PARTICULAR DISTRICT, FOR
12:48:15PM COORDINATING THE EFFORTS FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
12:48:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION OR FOLLOW-UP MOTION, BUT
12:48:22PM THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE THE WAY IT IS.
12:48:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:48:25PM I THINK A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:48:28PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:48:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:48:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU MEANT ONE PER QUARTER
12:48:36PM AND THEY WOULD REPRESENT EACH DISTRICT.
12:48:37PM IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID FOR A YEAR FOR EACH
12:48:44PM DISTRICT.
12:48:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:48:45PM GREAT.
12:48:46PM NOW, MOTIONS, REPORTS.
12:48:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
12:48:51PM I BELIEVE IN APRIL, YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED
12:48:57PM APRIL 23rd TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
12:49:00PM A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES, COUNCILMAN IS IT YOUR
12:49:04PM DESIRE TO SET UP THE FIRST OF THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS TO
12:49:08PM HAVE THAT IN EAST TAMPA, TO HAVE THAT IN ADVANCE BEFORE THE
12:49:11PM APRIL 23rd WORKSHOP BECAUSE IT WOULD INCLUDE THE ISSUE OF
12:49:15PM SULPHUR SPRINGS?
12:49:16PM DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS PERHAPS IF POSSIBLE
12:49:20PM WITH A DATE AND LOCATION FOR THAT OR JUST HAVE THE WORKSHOP
12:49:22PM HERE AND WE'LL WORK WITH THAT ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD?
12:49:26PM WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?
12:49:28PM I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR.
12:49:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE
12:49:32PM WORKSHOP.
12:49:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE BOTH, A WORKSHOP
12:49:38PM CENTRAL TO SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THEN A COMMUNITY MEETING, AND
12:49:41PM I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO THE DISTINGUISHED COUNCILMAN OF THE
12:49:45PM DISTRICT.
12:49:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR INTENT IS TO NOT -- YOUR INTENT IS TO
12:49:48PM HAVE A WORKSHOP ON SULPHUR SPRINGS BEFORE YOUR COMMUNITY
12:49:50PM MEETING IN YOUR DISTRICT?
12:49:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH.
12:49:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.
12:49:54PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:49:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTIONS, ET CETERA.
12:49:57PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
12:49:58PM OKAY.
12:49:59PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:50:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT TODAY, MR. CHAIR.
12:50:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
12:50:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
12:50:05PM WE HAVE A FEW.
12:50:06PM BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS COMING UP NEXT MONTH.
12:50:10PM MR. CHAIRMAN, MOTION REQUEST THAT I'M GOING TO GIVE TODAY,
12:50:17PM THAT THE COUNCIL BE REQUESTED TO PREPARE A COMMENDATION TO
12:50:19PM THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMUNITY INC. TO PRESENT IT
12:50:22PM AT THEIR PROGRAM ON FEBRUARY 18, 2020.
12:50:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:50:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:50:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:50:33PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:50:33PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:50:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER TWO, THAT CELESTE GIBBONS-PEOPLES,
12:50:38PM PRESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE,
12:50:40PM INC., BE SCHEDULED ON FEBRUARY 6, 2020, UNDER CEREMONIAL
12:50:44PM ITEMS TO PREPARE AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY OF
12:50:46PM TAMPA BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROGRAM TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 18,
12:50:50PM 2020.
12:50:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:50:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:50:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:50:56PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:50:57PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:50:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIRD, THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BE
12:51:00PM REQUESTED TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION GRANTING PERMISSION TO USE
12:51:03PM A FACSIMILE OF THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON
12:51:06PM PROGRAMMING MATERIALS AND DIGITAL PRINT AND BROADCAST
12:51:09PM ADVERTISEMENTS AS RELATES TO THE BLACK HISTORY ACTIVITIES
12:51:12PM HOSTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE, INC.
12:51:15PM DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY WHICH ARE AS FOLLOWS: THE
12:51:18PM 32nd ANNUAL CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY CELEBRATION AND
12:51:21PM ALSO REQUESTING PERMISSION TO USE A FACSIMILE OF THE
12:51:23PM OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR PROGRAMMING MATERIAL
12:51:26PM AND ADVERTISEMENT RELATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY
12:51:29PM COMMITTEE SCHOLARSHIP AWARD CEREMONY SCHEDULED FOR MAY OF
12:51:32PM 2020 FOR PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 6,
12:51:37PM 2020.
12:51:38PM >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:51:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:51:43PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:51:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:51:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOURTHLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
12:51:49PM GIVE FOUR -- POLICE OFFICERS RUFUS LEWIS, FRANK GRAY, JAMES
12:51:53PM -- AND CLARENCE NATHAN A COMMENDATION FOR PAVING THE WAY
12:51:56PM TOWARDS EQUALITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12:51:58PM THESE FOUR OFFICERS MADE A LASTING IMPACT BY BREAKING DOWN
12:52:01PM BARRIERS FOR BLACK WOMEN AND MINORITIES, RESPECTED AND EQUAL
12:52:05PM IN THE DEPARTMENT.
12:52:06PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS COMMENDATION AT REGULAR CITY
12:52:08PM COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 2020.
12:52:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:52:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:52:17PM IN ANY FAVOR?
12:52:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST TWO, STAFF REPORTS.
12:52:20PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ADMINISTRATION GIVE AN
12:52:22PM UPDATE ON THE ZION HILL CEMETERY SITUATION ALONG WITH THE
12:52:25PM ADJACENT PRIVATE PROPERTY UPDATES AS WELL.
12:52:27PM PLEASE PROVIDE ANY ACTIONS THE CITY IS TAKING ON ANY
12:52:30PM FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS, IF ANY, WITHIN THE SUMMARY.
12:52:32PM ALSO, ANY COMPLETED TIME FRAMES -- AND COMPLETED TIME
12:52:36PM FRAMES.
12:52:37PM I WOULD LIKE STAFF REPORT PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY 20 OF 2020.
12:52:41PM ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE AS IT RELATES TO THE ZION CEMETERY
12:52:44PM WITH THE SAME MOTION BEING MADE WITH UPDATES, FINANCIAL
12:52:49PM MONETARY, AND SO FORTH.
12:52:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:52:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:52:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:52:55PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:52:56PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU WANT APPEARANCE OF
12:52:58PM STAFF ON THE LAST TWO?
12:53:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ON THE LAST TWO --
12:53:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?
12:53:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMAN GUDES DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE
12:53:10PM CHARGING $25 PER MOTION.
12:53:12PM TWO ITEMS.
12:53:19PM EARLIER, WE SPOKE TO THE SORT OF LACK OF FUNDING WITHIN OUR
12:53:22PM PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENTS AND NEW
12:53:26PM BUILDINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
12:53:27PM SO I'D LIKE A REPORT BACK FROM LEGAL STAFF AND POSSIBLY
12:53:33PM PARKS AS TO THE FEASIBILITY IF WE DON'T -- ASSUMING WE DON'T
12:53:37PM HAVE IT ALREADY OF A POSSIBLE IMPACT FEE, A PARK IMPACT FEE.
12:53:44PM I GOOGLED IT UP REAL QUICK.
12:53:46PM I SAW THAT ORANGE COUNTY AND ORLANDO AND LAKE COUNTY AND
12:53:50PM MANY OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE
12:53:52PM STATE HAVE A PARK IMPACT FEE.
12:53:54PM THE ONE I SAW IN ORANGE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ORLANDO IS
12:53:58PM SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 900 TO 1,000 DOLLARS PER
12:54:02PM NEW RESIDENCE.
12:54:03PM IF YOU THINK ABOUT, IF YOU INCLUDE CONDOS AND BIG BUILDINGS
12:54:07PM THAT ARE GOING UP AROUND HERE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY A
12:54:13PM MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR, JUST SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT
12:54:15PM WE'VE SEEN GO UP.
12:54:17PM SO WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO REPORT BACK FROM STAFF AND
12:54:20PM LEGAL FEBRUARY 20th.
12:54:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:54:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:54:27PM ANY IN FAVOR?
12:54:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:54:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK AS PART OF THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO
12:54:32PM COMMISSION A STUDY THAT JUSTIFIES.
12:54:34PM USUALLY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS FOR IMPACT FEES BECAUSE YOU HAVE
12:54:36PM TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT AND FIND A LEGAL BASIS FOR IT.
12:54:41PM SECONDLY, I WAS SAD TO HEAR TODAY THAT THE CITY WILL BE
12:54:45PM LOSING CATHY COYLE AS A STAFF PERSON.
12:54:49PM CATHY HAS DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB FOR HOW MANY YEARS?
12:54:53PM 19 YEARS WITH THE CITY, AND MANY OF THOSE IN A VERY
12:54:58PM SIGNIFICANT SUPERVISORY CAPACITY.
12:55:00PM SHE AND GLORIA MOREDA, REALLY LEADING THAT DEPARTMENT FOR
12:55:05PM MANY YEARS.
12:55:06PM I'M SORRY I MISSED GLORIA WHEN SHE LEFT.
12:55:09PM I WOULD LIKE US TO GIVE CATHY COYLE COMMENDATION ON
12:55:12PM FEBRUARY 6, WHICH I BELIEVE IS SHORTLY BEFORE HER DEPARTURE.
12:55:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION -- MR. SHELBY, HOW MANY
12:55:18PM COMMENDATIONS DO WE HAVE THAT DAY?
12:55:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FEBRUARY 6, YOU HAVE THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF
12:55:29PM THE MONTH, MR. TOKLEY, MS. KERT.
12:55:33PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE HAVE BEEN ADDED FOR FEBRUARY --
12:55:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU MIND MOVING IT
12:55:39PM TO THE NEXT ONE?
12:55:40PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS BEFORE SHE LEAVES.
12:55:43PM SHE AND REBECCA -- THIS WOULD PUT SHE AND REBECCA --
12:55:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IS SHE LEAVING?
12:55:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 7th.
12:55:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:55:52PM LET'S DO IT.
12:55:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHY I DID IT.
12:55:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:55:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:56:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:56:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:56:02PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:56:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU.
12:56:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST BRIEFLY, I HAVE --
12:56:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A MOTION, IF I CAN, MR. CHAIR, THAT
12:56:09PM I'LL ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
12:56:10PM THIS IS AT THE REQUEST -- I'M ASKING COUNCIL, AT THE REQUEST
12:56:15PM OF THE HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION TO AMEND THE MOTION
12:56:18PM APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 16, 2020 AT THE EVENING
12:56:22PM SESSION TO READ THAT PLEASE SET A PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION
12:56:26PM HEARING FOR TACPA 19-17 AND TACPA 19-20, AND A PLAN
12:56:35PM AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR TACPA 19-18 A-G AND TACPA
12:56:43PM 19-21 ON THE EVENING OF MARCH 26th AT 5:01 P.M.
12:56:50PM AND ALSO AT THE REQUEST OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING
12:56:53PM COMMISSION, PLEASE RESCIND THAT PART OF THE MOTION THAT
12:56:56PM APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 16, 2020 AT THE EVENING
12:57:00PM SESSION THAT WHICH SET A PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION PUBLIC
12:57:03PM HEARING FOR TA-CPA 1919 ON THE EVENING OF MARCH 12th, 2020
12:57:12PM AT 5:30 P.M.
12:57:14PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
12:57:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE --
12:57:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: -- MOTION AND THE RESCINDING.
12:57:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION, A VERY CRYPTIC MOTION BY
12:57:25PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:57:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:57:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:57:29PM THANK YOU.
12:57:30PM JUST VERY BRIEFLY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN
12:57:34PM THAT'S BEING DONE FOR PARKS, AND I TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY
12:57:37PM DOING SOMETHING, WHAT I CALL AN EQUIVALENT OF A MASTER PLAN
12:57:40PM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:57:43PM RECENTLY, COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF EAST
12:57:45PM TAMPA FIRE RESPONSE TIME, AND WE'VE MADE SOME GOOD JOURNEYS
12:57:50PM IN THAT REGARD.
12:57:51PM WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING SOON ABOUT FIRE STATION 13 WHICH
12:57:54PM SERVICES THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
12:57:56PM MY WHOLE IDEA IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT PUBLIC
12:58:01PM SAFETY, WHETHER FOR POLICE, FIRE, E.M.S., ET CETERA, HERE IN
12:58:04PM THE CITY ON A PIECE BY PIECE BASIS.
12:58:07PM WE OUGHT TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE VISION AVAILABLE TO US ALL
12:58:10PM AT ONCE ON THINGS LIKE RESPONSE TIMES, FIRE ISSUES, POLICE
12:58:15PM ISSUES, ET CETERA, ALL OF THE CITY SO WE CAN HAVE A
12:58:19PM COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS THROUGHOUT
12:58:21PM THE CITY.
12:58:23PM WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT IT
12:58:25PM COST TO FIX THE NEEDS, AND EVENTUALLY THE BRIDGE ON HOW TO
12:58:29PM GET THERE TO FIX THOSE NEEDS.
12:58:30PM SO THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO AT THE MAY 2020 WORKSHOP --
12:58:37PM WHEN IS THAT --
12:58:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR.
12:58:44PM MADAM CLERK, DO YOU HAVE THE CALENDAR?
12:58:46PM MS. FOXX-KNOWLES HANDED IT TO ME.
12:58:54PM THE WORKSHOP DATE ON MAY IS MAY 28.
12:58:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:58:59PM SO I WOULD MOTION THAT AS PART OF EFFORTS TO CREATE A MASTER
12:59:02PM PLAN TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY MATTERS AND HOLISTIC
12:59:05PM COMPREHENSIVE WAY, I MOTION FOR CITY STAFF TO PRESENT
12:59:08PM RESPONSE TIMES FOR POLICE AND FIRE CITYWIDE, FURTHER THAT
12:59:11PM SAID FINDINGS BE PROVIDED COUNCIL AT THE AFOREMENTIONED
12:59:14PM MAY 28th WORKSHOP WITH AN EYE ON A MASTER PLAN STUDY OR
12:59:18PM STUDY EQUIVALENT, WHETHER DONE INTERNALLY OR EXTERNALLY, WE
12:59:21PM CAN LEAVE THAT TO THE ADMINISTRATION, ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY
12:59:25PM NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA INCLUDING THE NEEDS, COSTS
12:59:28PM AND HOW TO GET THERE.
12:59:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A
12:59:32PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:59:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:59:35PM ALL RIGHT.
12:59:35PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:59:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
12:59:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, IF I CAN, I JUST NOTICED FROM
12:59:40PM THE CALENDAR THAT MS. FOXX-KNOWLES GAVE TO ME IT APPEARS
12:59:44PM THAT THE SULPHUR SPRINGS WORKSHOP IS SET FOR THE APRIL DATE
12:59:48PM AND THE MAY 28th DATE.
12:59:49PM IT APPEARS TWICE.
12:59:52PM I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT.
12:59:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S ALWAYS MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN IN
12:59:55PM APRIL.
12:59:56PM IT WAS COUNCILMAN GUDES' MOTION.
1:00:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT TODAY.
1:00:03PM I'M AWARE OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE IT
1:00:06PM SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD.
1:00:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
1:00:07PM RECEIVE AND FILE?
1:00:08PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:00:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
1:00:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE DO THAT, JUST MY -- OUR
1:00:17PM CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF JERRY FRANKHOUSER FROM THAN WHO
1:00:21PM PASSED AWAY EARLIER THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK.
1:00:24PM HE WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH HIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WITH
1:00:28PM THAN, WITH THE CITY.
1:00:30PM HE WOULD COME TO MANY, MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, MANY
1:00:33PM TIMES WITH MARGARET VIZZI.
1:00:35PM SO MY CONDOLENCES, OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY.
1:00:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DEFER TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:00:41PM GO AHEAD.
1:00:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, GUIDO, FOR MENTIONING THAT.
1:00:47PM JERRY AND I GO WAY BACK.
1:00:48PM SOMETIMES WE BUTTED HEADS, BUT WE WERE ALWAYS POLITE TO EACH
1:00:53PM OTHER.
1:00:53PM HE VOLUNTEERED AND VOLUNTEERED AND VOLUNTEERED TO REPRESENT
1:00:56PM HIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN ULTIMATELY ALL NEIGHBORHOODS.
1:00:59PM WE'LL MISS JERRY.
1:01:00PM MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO ANN AND HIS FAMILY.
1:01:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:01:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF BOTH OF OUR
1:01:07PM COUNCILMEN HERE.
1:01:08PM HE WAS A VERY FINE MAN, AND HE ALWAYS BACKED UP WHAT HE SAID
1:01:13PM AND HIS MAJOR CONCERN WAS THE COMMUNITY.
1:01:15PM HE WILL BE MISSED.
1:01:16PM ON A LIGHTER NOTE, I WISH TO WISH HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR
1:01:23PM CHAIRMAN, LUIS VIERA, WHO IS, WHAT, 38 YEARS YOUNG.
1:01:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: 42.
1:01:28PM >> DOESN'T LOOK A DAY OVER 40.
1:01:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
1:01:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:01:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
1:01:35PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
1:01:37PM MANISCALCO.
1:01:38PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
1:01:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:01:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:01:42PM THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
1:01:43PM HAVE A GOOD ONE.
1:01:44PM THANK YOU.
1:01:47PM >> I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL.
1:01:48PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:01:50PM -- NOT GETTING THIS OUT TO YOU SOONER.
1:01:52PM RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
1:01:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO RECONVENE.
1:01:57PM I HEREBY RECONVENE.
1:02:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
1:02:06PM >> GUDES?
1:02:07PM MANISCALCO?
1:02:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:02:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
1:02:10PM >> MIRANDA?
1:02:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:02:13PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
1:02:14PM AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.
1:02:16PM I WAS JUST PREPARING THE NEW ORDINANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 57
1:02:19PM WHICH CORRECTED THE TYPO, WHICH SAID OAKDAVE, INSTEAD OF
1:02:24PM OAKDALE.
1:02:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU'RE ASKING THAT COUNCIL MOVE THE
1:02:32PM SUBSTITUTION.
1:02:32PM WILL IT BE NECESSARY TO REREAD THE TITLE ON THE SUBSTITUTE
1:02:35PM ORDINANCE?
1:02:35PM THEY READ THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE --
1:02:42PM THE TITLE DID CHANGE WITH THE SCRIVENER ERROR THAT'S
1:02:44PM CONTAINED IN THE TITLE.
1:02:46PM >> IT WOULD BE AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WHETHER THEY WANT TO
1:02:50PM REREAD THE TITLE.
1:02:54PM >> OUR RECOLLECTION IS WHEN THEY READ IT, THEY READ IT
1:02:56PM CORRECTLY AND NOTED THE SPELLING.
1:02:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COMING BACK FOR SECOND READING.
1:03:02PM >> YES, IT IS.
1:03:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE.
1:03:07PM [INAUDIBLE]
1:03:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:03:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
1:03:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:03:13PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:03:13PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
1:03:15PM >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:03:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:03:18PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
1:03:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:03:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:03:21PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:03:22PM THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
1:03:23PM HAVE A GOOD ONE.
1:03:24PM [ADJOURNMENT]
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