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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 23, 2020
9:00 A.M.



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9:01:42AM

9:03:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: -- PLEASE.

9:03:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

9:03:13AM THIS IS A PROUD DAY FOR ME, COUNCIL.

9:03:15AM I WAS ABLE TO GET MY PASTOR OF MY CHURCH, NEW SALEM

9:03:21AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, TO COME DOWN AND GIVE THE

9:03:24AM INVOCATION TODAY.

9:03:25AM THIS IS A VERY PROUD DAY FOR ME.

9:03:27AM THE REVEREND KALEB BARNUM IS A LICENSED AND ORDAINED

9:03:32AM MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL, DESIRING TO UNITE THE CHURCH WITH

9:03:35AM THE COMMUNITY.

9:03:36AM HE HAS OVER 20 YEARS OF CHURCH MINISTRY EXPERIENCE.

9:03:39AM AND AGAIN, HE IS WITH THE CHURCH THAT I ATTEND, NEW SALEM

9:03:41AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

9:03:44AM PASTOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.

9:03:49AM ALL RISE OR REMAIN STANDING.

9:03:53AM >> THANK YOU.

9:03:53AM LET US PRAY.

9:03:54AM ETERNAL GOD, OUR FATHER, WE COME RIGHT NOW TO SAY THANK YOU.

9:03:57AM WE THANK YOU FOR THIS HOUR, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND

9:04:00AM DISCUSS THE AFFAIRS OF THIS GREAT CITY.

9:04:02AM LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BIND US TOGETHER WITH CORDS OF

9:04:04AM LOVE, THAT WE BE ABLE TO DO THINGS DECENT, IN ORDER,

9:04:06AM PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT.

9:04:10AM IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

9:04:12AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

9:04:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

9:04:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

9:04:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

9:04:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

9:04:32AM >> MIRANDA?

9:04:33AM CARLSON?

9:04:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

9:04:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

9:04:35AM BEFORE WE BEGIN, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY

9:04:41AM DUE TO A CONFLICT.

9:04:44AM JUST FYI.

9:04:45AM ALSO, BEFORE WE BEGIN, COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANTED TO

9:04:49AM INTRODUCE YOUR INTERN, SIR.

9:04:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

9:04:52AM COUNCIL, WE HAVE LEGISLATIVE AIDES -- COME ON UP HERE -- WE

9:04:56AM HAVE LEGISLATIVE AIDES THAT HELP OUT, BUT WE ALSO GET

9:05:00AM STUDENTS FROM USF.

9:05:01AM GO BULLS.

9:05:03AM TO JOIN US.

9:05:04AM TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS. KATARINA KATIE WHO IS A

9:05:10AM GRADUATE WITH A DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE FROM THE

9:05:13AM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA -- GO BULLS.

9:05:15AM SHE WAS BORN IN MOSCOW, RUSSIA, AND GREW UP IN MIAMI.

9:05:19AM KATIE, THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

9:05:22AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:05:22AM IT'S REALLY AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

9:05:23AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:05:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

9:05:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, WE ALSO HAVE A NEW ADDED

9:05:31AM ADDITION TO THE TEAM.

9:05:33AM WE HAVE MRS. NORA ABDULLAH.

9:05:36AM SHE IS A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

9:05:38AM WE WELCOME HER TO OUR -- [INAUDIBLE]

9:05:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

9:05:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:05:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOING TO DO IT NEXT TIME.

9:05:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT TIME WE'LL GET YOU, SIR.

9:05:53AM OKAY, LET'S GO TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

9:05:56AM I WANT TO DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING.

9:06:00AM ITEMS 67, 70, AND 74.

9:06:17AM THEY ARE BEING CONTINUED.

9:06:19AM 67, I BELIEVE, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT
9:06:23AM CONTINUED, SIR?

9:06:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, THAT'S BEING CONTINUED.

9:06:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU HAVE A DATE OR JUST --

9:06:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THEY CALLED ME AND TOLD ME NEXT

9:06:36AM MONTH, BUT I DIDN'T BRING THAT NOTE.

9:06:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]

9:06:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS?

9:06:54AM WE'LL COME BACK TO CONTINUING THOSE WHEN WE GET THERE.

9:06:57AM GIVE YOUR STAFF SOME TIME.

9:06:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE.

9:07:01AM FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE STAFF TO KNOW, MR. CHAIR THAT

9:07:04AM THERE WILL NOT BE ANY STAFF REPORTING AT STAFF REPORTS.

9:07:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

9:07:08AM ITEMS 67, 70, AND 74 WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE APPROPRIATE

9:07:12AM TIME.

9:07:13AM I WANTED TO INQUIRE ON 63, 64, 65, DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER

9:07:17AM WANT A LIVE APPEARANCE FROM STAFF ON THOSE?

9:07:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONES ON FIRST, COUNCIL'S POLICY,

9:07:27AM BECAUSE OF THE -- [INAUDIBLE] -- STAFF WILL APPEAR.

9:07:34AM OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO NECESSITY TO HAVE STAFF COME UNLESS

9:07:38AM THERE'S COUNCIL DESIRE.

9:07:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY?

9:07:41AM OKAY.

9:07:41AM WE'LL PROCEED THEN JUST WITH VOTING.

9:07:43AM I HAVE LIVE APPEARANCES JUST FOR THE RECORD ON 66, 69, 71,

9:07:49AM 72, AND 76.

9:07:50AM JUST FYI.

9:07:52AM LET'S BEGIN THEN WITH CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND

9:07:56AM PRESENTATIONS.

9:07:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A COUPLE OF MORE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.

9:07:59AM SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, YOU HAVE REQUESTED AND COUNCIL'S

9:08:05AM POLICY, UNTIL THE AGENDA IS OFFICIALLY CHANGED THAT STAFF

9:08:09AM REPORTS UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS WILL BE ADDRESSED BY CITY

9:08:12AM COUNCIL AT A TIME CERTAIN OF 10:30 THIS MORNING.

9:08:15AM SO ANY 10:30 HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THAT TIME WILL BE TAKEN

9:08:19AM AFTER STAFF REPORTS.

9:08:21AM THAT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?

9:08:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

9:08:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FINALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THESE CHANGES

9:08:26AM BEING MADE AND STAFF BEING APPRISED OF THEM, IF THERE COULD

9:08:30AM BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.

9:08:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I HAVE A MOTION?

9:08:34AM >> SO MOVED.

9:08:35AM >> [INAUDIBLE]

9:08:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE WILL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME SO THAT

9:08:39AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND OTHERS CAN GET REPLACEMENT.

9:08:42AM WE'LL DO THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

9:08:44AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:08:46AM WHO SECONDED THAT?

9:08:48AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:08:49AM ANY IN FAVOR?

9:08:51AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:08:51AM NOW WE MOVE TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS FOR

9:08:54AM APPLICANTS.

9:09:05AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

9:09:07AM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.

9:09:10AM I'M HERE FOR ITEMS 1 THROUGH 5, APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS.

9:09:13AM OUR FIRST ITEM WOULD BE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY

9:09:18AM COMMITTEE.

9:09:19AM WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS AND ONE APPLICANT.

9:09:22AM AND THE APPLICANT IS JENNIFER HALL FOR THE POSITION OF

9:09:29AM RESIDENT.

9:09:29AM IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S NOT HERE.

9:09:34AM WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?

9:09:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL WISH TO TAKE THIS UP?

9:09:39AM WE HAVE A MOTION -- YES, SIR.

9:09:41AM YES, SIR.

9:09:43AM GO AHEAD.

9:09:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO DO THAT, IF WE

9:09:47AM CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION DOING SO, BECAUSE

9:09:51AM I HAVE A RESOLUTION PREPARED IN THE EVENTUALITY OR THE CASE.

9:09:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

9:10:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:10:03AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:10:05AM ANY IN FAVOR?
9:10:06AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:10:08AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

9:10:09AM NEXT WE HAVE NUMBER 2.

9:10:13AM THAT IS THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, WHICH WE WILL CONTINUE TO

9:10:17AM FEBRUARY 20th, 2020.

9:10:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

9:10:20AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT REGARD?

9:10:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.

9:10:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:10:25AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES?

9:10:27AM ANY IN FAVOR?

9:10:28AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:10:29AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.

9:10:30AM THE NEXT ITEM IS THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY

9:10:35AM COUNCIL.

9:10:35AM WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES AND ONE APPLICANT.

9:10:38AM THE APPLICANT IS MR. RALPH SMITH.

9:10:43AM I BELIEVE HE'S HERE.

9:10:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

9:10:50AM HOW ARE YOU DOING?

9:10:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:10:53AM >> I'M SURE MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW ME.

9:10:55AM I'M RALPH SMITH.

9:10:56AM I'M THE FOUNDER OF COMPUTER MENTORS GROUP.

9:11:00AM I'VE BEEN A CITY RESIDENT SINCE 1993.
9:11:04AM I HAVE SERVED IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES, INCLUDING ON THIS

9:11:07AM PARTICULAR BOARD ASKING TO BE APPROVED FOR TODAY.

9:11:13AM I SERVED A TWO-YEAR STINT ON THIS BOARD AND I'M LOOKING TO

9:11:16AM COME BACK TO TRY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

9:11:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

9:11:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RALPH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EXTENDING

9:11:25AM YOURSELF IN THIS REGARD AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN

9:11:28AM OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS.

9:11:31AM I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT -- I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THIS

9:11:35AM COUNCIL.

9:11:37AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER MEMBERS ARE.

9:11:39AM I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS BODY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR

9:11:44AM ALMOST THE LAST YEAR ABOUT WMBE AND HOW WE NEED TO BEEF IT

9:11:49AM UP AND DO A BETTER JOB.

9:11:51AM I ASSUME THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOES.

9:11:57AM DO YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT?

9:12:00AM >> YES.

9:12:00AM THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF APPLICANTS FOR THIS BOARD --

9:12:04AM THIS COMMISSION.

9:12:05AM THEY ARE APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I THINK EACH OF

9:12:10AM YOU GET TO APPOINT ONE PERSON TO THIS BOARD.

9:12:13AM THERE'S ALSO THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ALSO APPOINTED BY THE

9:12:17AM MAYOR, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I'M APPLYING FOR THIS TIME,

9:12:21AM TO BE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR TO BE ON THE BOARD.

9:12:23AM BUT THE BOARD BASICALLY OVERSEES -- I FORGET THE ACTUAL
9:12:30AM ORDINANCE -- BUT THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS WE'LL TRY

9:12:33AM TO BEEF UP PARTICIPATION IN THE CITY FROM ALL RACES AND

9:12:40AM ETHNICITIES.

9:12:42AM CURRENTLY, I'M REALLY ON TO TRY TO REPRESENT AFRICAN

9:12:47AM AMERICANS.

9:12:48AM AND CURRENTLY, AFRICAN AMERICANS BASICALLY ARE 24% OF OUR

9:12:53AM COMMUNITY, BUT ONLY RECEIVE 2% OF THE CONTRACTS THAT COME

9:12:57AM OUT OF THE CITY, AND THAT INCLUDES PROFESSIONAL SERVICES,

9:13:01AM WHICH CURRENTLY AFRICAN AMERICANS RECEIVE ZERO DOLLARS AND

9:13:06AM CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER THINGS.

9:13:08AM I'M REALLY HERE TO TRY TO ASSIST THE CITY IN EQUALIZING THE

9:13:14AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS.

9:13:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT'S GREAT.

9:13:18AM I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.

9:13:19AM I KNOW EVERYBODY UP HERE DOES.

9:13:22AM AND I HOPE THAT NOT ONLY WILL YOU SERVE ON THE BOARD, BUT

9:13:26AM COME BACK AND REPORT BACK TO US PERIODICALLY AND TELL US HOW

9:13:30AM THINGS ARE GOING.

9:13:31AM WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THINGS, AND HOW WE CAN BE MORE

9:13:35AM PROACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY IN THE AFRICAN

9:13:37AM AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO ENCOURAGE AND ASSIST BUSINESSES TO

9:13:42AM COME GET A PIECE OF THE PIE.

9:13:44AM >> I PROMISE TO DO THAT AND EVEN IN THE ORDINANCE, IT

9:13:47AM REQUIRES THAT WE COME BACK ONCE A YEAR AND REPORT TO YOU ON

9:13:50AM THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE.
9:13:57AM HAVEN'T BEEN HERE A WHOLE YEAR YET, BUT THERE IS A

9:14:00AM REQUIREMENT TO COME BACK AND REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL.

9:14:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: I ECHO MY COLLEAGUE'S STATEMENTS THERE.

9:14:07AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND CONTINUE TO

9:14:10AM SERVE THE CITY AS YOU HAVE FOR A LONG TIME.

9:14:12AM PLEASE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE FORMAL REPORTS, PLEASE KEEP US

9:14:16AM UPDATED INDIVIDUALLY.

9:14:18AM AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, I THINK WE UNANIMOUSLY WANT TO TRY TO

9:14:21AM SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING.

9:14:23AM THANK YOU.

9:14:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:14:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

9:14:26AM WE COUNCIL HAVE KNOWN YOU A LONG TIME.

9:14:29AM YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

9:14:32AM THANK YOU FOR JOINING THIS.

9:14:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:14:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

9:14:35AM YES, SIR.

9:14:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES,

9:14:42AM THIS PARTICULAR POSITION IS AN APPOINTMENT BY THE CITY

9:14:44AM COUNCIL, JUST TO CLARIFY.

9:14:46AM I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS FOR YOU PREVIOUSLY, BUT THIS IS

9:14:48AM BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY WITH A RESOLUTION, AS AN ACTION BY CITY

9:14:52AM COUNCIL.

9:14:53AM WHEN COUNCIL IS PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT REGARD, I
9:14:56AM HAVE A RESOLUTION.

9:14:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION?

9:14:59AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SECOND BY

9:15:01AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

9:15:02AM ANY IN FAVOR?

9:15:05AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:15:06AM THANK YOU, SIR.

9:15:06AM APPRECIATE IT.

9:15:10AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

9:15:12AM THE NEXT ITEM IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

9:15:15AM WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS.

9:15:17AM ONE APPLICANT, BUT THIS APPLICANT WOULD BE FOR THE

9:15:24AM ALTERNATE.

9:15:24AM WE WOULD ADVERTISE THE OTHER POSITION FOR THE ARCHITECT.

9:15:28AM KERRY ANN KANCH.

9:15:37AM >> HI.

9:15:39AM MY NAME IS KERRY ANN KANCH.

9:15:41AM I'M APPLYING FOR AN APPOINTMENT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION

9:15:43AM COMMISSION.

9:15:44AM I'M NEW TO TAMPA.

9:15:46AM I WAS BORN IN KINGSTON, JAMAICA, AND I WAS RAISED IN

9:15:49AM NEW YORK STATE.

9:15:50AM I WENT TO SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY WHERE I RECEIVED MY BACHELOR

9:15:55AM OF FINE ARTS AND INTERIOR DESIGN.

9:15:59AM I HAVE MY ASSOCIATES IN APPLIED SCIENCE FROM ONONDAGA
9:16:02AM COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THAT ONE IS AN INTERIOR DESIGN ALSO.

9:16:06AM I TOOK SOME TIME OFF, AND THEN I WENT TO -- OR I APPLIED TO

9:16:13AM GRADUATE SCHOOL.

9:16:14AM I ATTENDED GRADUATE SCHOOL IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS AND I WENT

9:16:17AM TO THE SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE IN CHICAGO.

9:16:19AM I APPLIED FOR MASTERS PROGRAM IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

9:16:23AM SO MY ASSOCIATES I COMPLETED IN 2004 AND MY BACHELOR'S IN

9:16:28AM 2007.

9:16:28AM I WALKED THE STAGE IN 2013 IN CHICAGO.

9:16:31AM BUT I'M STILL IN THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY COMPLETING MY

9:16:35AM MASTER'S THESIS.

9:16:36AM I RELOCATED TO FLORIDA IN 2013, GAINESVILLE, AND I WORKED

9:16:42AM FOR UF PART-TIME.

9:16:45AM I ALSO SERVED ON THE ALACHUA COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION

9:16:48AM COMMISSION THERE FOR A YEAR WITHIN MY TWO-YEAR TERM BECAUSE

9:16:52AM I RELOCATED TO ST. PETE IN JUNE OF 2016.

9:16:58AM SO I'VE BEEN IN FLORIDA SINCE, AND I JUST RELOCATED TO TAMPA

9:17:02AM ACTUALLY IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.

9:17:05AM I CURRENTLY WORK AS AN INSURANCE LINE PROCESSOR FOR CX

9:17:10AM INSURANCE SERVICES IN ST. PETE.

9:17:12AM WHILE COMPLETING MY THESIS.

9:17:15AM I'M ACTUALLY A BIG PART -- BIG MEMBER OF MY CHURCH AND

9:17:19AM THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT ME TO FLORIDA.

9:17:21AM I CAME TO FLORIDA TO HELP THEM START CHURCHES IN GAINESVILLE

9:17:25AM AS WELL AS HERE.
9:17:26AM SO I'M APPLYING FOR A POSITION ON THE COMMISSION TODAY.

9:17:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

9:17:31AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, WE WELCOME YOU AS A RELATIVELY NEW

9:17:35AM RESIDENT, AND THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.

9:17:36AM FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE CITY OF

9:17:42AM TAMPA'S EFFORTS ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION WHICH GO BACK, I

9:17:46AM THINK, 30-PLUS YEARS WITH YBOR CITY AND HISTORIC HYDE PARK

9:17:50AM AND THEN ON AND ON.

9:17:51AM HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY GET AROUND AND SEE OUR

9:17:55AM STUFF?

9:17:56AM >> I HAVE, ACTUALLY.

9:17:57AM I LIKE HYDE PARK A LOT, OF COURSE.

9:17:59AM THERE'S A LOT OF BUNGALOWS DOWN THERE, A LOT OF CRAFTSMAN

9:18:03AM ARCHITECTURE.

9:18:03AM BUT YBOR, YES, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FACTORIES HAVE BEEN TORN

9:18:07AM DOWN, THE OLD CIGAR FACTORIES.

9:18:09AM SO THERE'S A LOT OF THE HISTORIC MARKERS.

9:18:11AM I SEE THAT A LOT IN TAMPA.

9:18:13AM THERE'S A LOT OF MARKERS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF

9:18:15AM DEVELOPMENT.

9:18:15AM SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S AN INTERESTING DILEMMA, I GUESS,

9:18:19AM BECAUSE THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD, BUT THEN LIKE TO MOVE

9:18:22AM FORWARD, YOU'VE GOT TO GET RID OF YOUR HISTORIC STOCK.

9:18:27AM SO I THINK IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A

9:18:31AM BALANCE TO STRIKE BECAUSE YOU NEED THE HISTORY TO INFORM THE
9:18:35AM FUTURE BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO DEVELOP INTO THE FUTURE AS WELL.

9:18:38AM I THINK IT'S GOOD WHAT I'VE SEEN BUT I THINK A LOT MORE

9:18:42AM EFFORTS CAN BE DONE IN OTHER PLACES.

9:18:43AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT.

9:18:44AM THANK YOU.

9:18:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAD ME AT ART INSTITUTE CHICAGO.

9:18:50AM THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO LEARN HISTORY AND TO ACTUALLY SEE

9:18:55AM MODERN THINGS.

9:18:56AM I AGREE WITH YOU.

9:18:57AM IF WE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR

9:19:02AM FUTURE FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT'S?

9:19:04AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR FUTURE ARCHITECTS THAT WE CAN

9:19:07AM DEDICATE OUR HISTORY TO?

9:19:10AM THANK YOU -- NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO SWAY MY DECISION BUT

9:19:13AM WHAT PART OF TOWN DO YOU LIVE IN?

9:19:15AM >> I LIVE CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT.

9:19:18AM NOW THEY ARE CALLING IT MIDTOWN?

9:19:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, WEST TAMPA.

9:19:22AM >> WEST TAMPA.

9:19:22AM I LITERALLY LIVE RIGHT BY THE MALL, INTERNATIONAL MALL.

9:19:28AM I LIVE IN A PLACE THAT IS SUPER DEVELOPED.

9:19:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

9:19:33AM WELCOME ABOARD.

9:19:34AM >> THANK YOU.

9:19:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
9:19:36AM I ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID.

9:19:38AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.

9:19:40AM I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS.

9:19:41AM HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN TAMPA FOR?

9:19:43AM >> I LIVED IN TAMPA FOR A YEAR AND IN ST. PETERSBURG FOR TWO

9:19:46AM YEARS.

9:19:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S GREAT.

9:19:48AM THANK YOU FOR JUMPING ON BOARD SERVICE FOR OUR CITY.

9:19:52AM I MEAN THAT.

9:19:53AM TO APPOINT.

9:19:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, COUNCIL, UNFORTUNATELY, I CAUGHT

9:20:01AM A SCRIVENER'S ERROR AS WE WERE TALKING.

9:20:03AM IF YOU COULD MAKE THE MOTION TO APPOINT AND I'LL COME BACK

9:20:05AM WITH THE RESOLUTION HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MEETING.

9:20:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:20:12AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:20:13AM ANY IN FAVOR?

9:20:16AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:20:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND, JOE, SHE HAD ME AT UF.

9:20:19AM [ LAUGHTER ]

9:20:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, COUNCILMAN.

9:20:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

9:20:23AM WE'RE ON NUMBER 5.

9:20:25AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, AGAIN.

9:20:29AM WE ARE ON TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
9:20:31AM WE HAVE TWO INCUMBENTS LOOKING TO BE REAPPOINTED.

9:20:36AM BRET FELDMAN IS THE FIRST ONE.

9:20:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

9:20:45AM MY NAME IS BRET FELDMAN WITH THE LAW FIRM OF PHELPS DUNBAR.

9:20:49AM IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME OF YOU WHO SERVED ON THE VARIANCE

9:20:51AM REVIEW BOARD PREVIOUSLY WITH ME.

9:20:54AM I HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS, A

9:20:58AM LITTLE OVER THAT, I WAS AN ALTERNATE A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME

9:21:04AM AND THEN APPOINTED TO I BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY POSITION ON THE

9:21:07AM BOARD.

9:21:08AM MR. COTTON GAVE ME SOME DOCUMENTS TO GET REAPPOINTED.

9:21:13AM HE GAVE ME A SHORT WINDOW TO DO THAT AND I MISSED THAT SHORT

9:21:18AM WINDOW.

9:21:18AM I GET TO COME HERE AND SEE YOU GOOD PEOPLE THIS MORNING AND

9:21:21AM HOPEFULLY GET REAPPOINTED AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THE

9:21:23AM COMMUNITY.

9:21:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

9:21:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS MR. FELDMAN SAY, JOE AND I HAD THE

9:21:29AM HONOR OF SERVING WITH MR. FELDMAN FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND YOU

9:21:33AM DID SUCH A GREAT JOB, I KEPT ELBOWING HIM AND SAYING, BRETT,

9:21:39AM WHY DON'T YOU RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL.

9:21:40AM FOR SOME REASON HE SAID "NO WAY."

9:21:42AM I THINK HE'S SMARTER THAN THE REST OF US.

9:21:46AM ANYWAY, BRET, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

9:21:50AM WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK AND DOING SOME MORE.
9:21:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: PHELPS DUNBAR, MANAGING PARTNER, DENNIS

9:21:57AM McCLELLAN IS ONE OF THE BEST GUYS OUT THERE.

9:21:59AM YOUR LAW FIRM FOR NINE YEARS HAS BEEN FOR OUR ANNUAL SENSORY

9:22:04AM FRIENDLY SANTA EVENT THAT WE DO AT HCBA WITH THE JUDGES,

9:22:10AM ABOUT 200 KIDS, NINE YEARS STRAIGHT, YOU HAVE BEEN OUR

9:22:13AM NUMBER ONE TOY FUND-RAISER FOR THAT.

9:22:17AM YOU ALL ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD PLACE IN MY HEART UNLESS I'M

9:22:20AM OPPOSING YOU IN A CASE.

9:22:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:22:22AM WE HAVE A MOTION?

9:22:23AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

9:22:25AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

9:22:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?

9:22:28AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:22:28AM THANK YOU, SIR.

9:22:34AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

9:22:36AM THE OTHER INCUMBENT IS SAMANTHA WALKER.

9:22:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:22:45AM AS SHE SAID, MY NAME IS SAM WALKER.

9:22:48AM I'M SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT.

9:22:50AM I WAS UP HERE FOUR MONTHS BEFORE YOU ALL.

9:22:52AM I'M GETTING OVER A LITTLE BIT OF A COLD, SO I'LL KEEP IT

9:22:54AM SHORT.

9:22:55AM I AM AN ATTORNEY AT A LAW FIRM ACROSS THE STREET.

9:22:57AM I THINK THAT MY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND HAS
9:23:01AM INFORMED MY CURRENT POSITION AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'VE

9:23:04AM ENJOYED SERVING THE CITY OF TAMPA.

9:23:06AM FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M UP HERE AGAIN BEFORE YOU TODAY.

9:23:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

9:23:13AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:23:15AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

9:23:16AM ALL IN FAVOR?

9:23:18AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:23:19AM YES, SIR.

9:23:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- WALKER, IF YOU COULD

9:23:26AM MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

9:23:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:23:29AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

9:23:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?

9:23:32AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:23:37AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.

9:23:39AM WE WILL ADVERTISE THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WERE NOT FILLED

9:23:41AM OR READVERTISE.

9:23:43AM THANK YOU.

9:23:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

9:23:45AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

9:23:46AM NOW WE MOVE FORWARD TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND

9:23:49AM PRESENTATIONS ON NUMBER 6 FOR THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP.

9:23:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL KNOW I PRESENTED THE TAMPA

9:23:57AM SCORECARD, THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS
9:24:00AM HAS BEEN DEVELOPING A REGIONAL SCORECARD, AND WE WANTED TO

9:24:04AM MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL HEARD THIS, BUT ALSO THAT THE MEMBERS

9:24:08AM OF THE PUBLIC HEAR IT, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE RIGHT

9:24:10AM INFORMATION, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING OR WHAT WE CAN

9:24:13AM BENCHMARK AGAINST.

9:24:14AM WE HAVE THE CEO OF THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP.

9:24:18AM >> COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING.

9:24:20AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING MYSELF AND DAVE SOBUSH OUR DIRECTOR OF

9:24:26AM POLICY AND RESEARCH HERE.

9:24:27AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO COME.

9:24:29AM IF WE COULD START THE SLIDE, PLEASE.

9:24:32AM THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO BENCHMARK OUR REGION ALONG WITH

9:24:36AM OUR PARTNERS FROM UNITED WAY SUNCOAST COMMUNITY FOUNDATION

9:24:39AM OF TAMPA BAY AND THE USF MUMA COLLEGE OF BUSINESS IS A

9:24:44AM CRITICAL STEP IN BOTH UNDERSTANDING AND ADDRESSING THE MAJOR

9:24:47AM CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE AS A COMMUNITY.

9:24:50AM ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 9th, WE RELEASED THE FINDINGS

9:24:55AM FROM OUR RESEARCH TO AN AUDIENCE OF MORE THAN 500 BUSINESS,

9:24:58AM GOVERNMENT, AND PHILANTHROPIC LEADERS, INCLUDING A NUMBER OF

9:25:01AM ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THROUGHOUT TAMPA BAY AT OUR STATE OF

9:25:04AM THE REGION COMMUNITY LUNCHEON.

9:25:06AM IN A MINUTE, I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU A BRIEF VIDEO.

9:25:10AM IT'S FOUR MINUTES.

9:25:11AM IT SUMMARIZES THE 2020 HIGHLIGHTS AND ASK DAVE SOBUSH TO DIG

9:25:15AM DEEP NEAR THE INDICATORS THAT DRIVE OUR ECONOMY.
9:25:18AM IF YOU COULD SWITCH THE SLIDE, PLEASE, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU

9:25:25AM TO CONSIDER ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION, WHICH IS, ARE WE

9:25:28AM CREATING AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY?

9:25:31AM THE DATA YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE HITS A LOT OF HIGH NOTES

9:25:36AM REGARDING THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN TAMPA AND TAMPA BAY.

9:25:39AM THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO RESIDENTS AND

9:25:44AM BUSINESSES.

9:25:45AM WITH ALL THE EXCITING MOMENTUM ACROSS THE REGION, IT WOULD

9:25:49AM BE EASY TO SAY MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

9:25:51AM BUT A CLOSER LOOK SHOWS US THAT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK

9:25:55AM TO DO IF WE WANT TO CREATE A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYBODY

9:25:57AM PROSPERS AND NO ONE IS LEFT BEHIND.

9:26:00AM IF WE COULD PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO.

9:26:02AM THANK YOU.

9:26:09AM THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE STATE OF OUR

9:26:16AM REGION, USING RELIABLE, ACCESSIBLE, AND COMPARABLE DATA.

9:26:21AM MORE THAN 100 BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, AND NONPROFIT LEADERS IN

9:26:25AM TAMPA BAY HAVE JOINED FORCES.

9:26:28AM WE'VE IDENTIFIED OVER 60 INDICATORS THAT DRIVE OUR ECONOMY,

9:26:32AM THAT IF MOVED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, CAN CREATE PROSPERITY

9:26:35AM FOR ALL.

9:26:37AM WE'VE IDENTIFIED 19 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES

9:26:43AM THAT WE SEE AS OUR PEERS.

9:26:46AM EACH YEAR, WE TRACK HOW WE'RE DOING AGAINST THESE

9:26:50AM COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
9:26:54AM WE DIG DEEP INTO THIS DATA AND LOOK HONESTLY AT OUR

9:27:00AM STRENGTHS AND OUR WEAKNESSES TO FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING

9:27:03AM WELL, WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE AND HOW WE STACK UP AGAINST THE

9:27:07AM COMPETITION.

9:27:09AM BUT WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING BACKWARD.

9:27:13AM USING INNOVATIVE REAL-TIME DATA, WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE TO

9:27:17AM INVEST OUR TIME AND OUR RESOURCES TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON OUR

9:27:20AM GREATEST CHALLENGES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

9:27:24AM IN JUST THREE YEARS, WE'VE CHANGED THE WAY WE VIEW OUR

9:27:28AM REGION AND REDEFINED THE ROLE THAT EACH OF US HAS IN ITS

9:27:31AM FUTURE.

9:27:32AM WE ARE EXCITED TO SHARE THE NEW DATA WITH YOU, SO LET'S

9:27:36AM UNVEIL THE RESULTS.

9:27:39AM IN 2020, TAMPA BAY RANKS IN THE TOP 10 IN 14 DIFFERENT

9:27:43AM INDICATORS.

9:27:44AM AND WE GAIN GROUND ON OUR COMPETITORS IN HALF OF THOSE

9:27:48AM AREAS.

9:27:48AM WE TOP THE LIST OF NET MIGRATION FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A

9:27:53AM ROW AFTER BEING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PACK JUST A DECADE AGO.

9:27:57AM MORE NEW BUSINESSES ARE STARTING IN TAMPA BAY, AND WE'RE ONE

9:28:00AM OF ONLY TWO COMMUNITIES STARTING MORE BUSINESSES NOW THAN WE

9:28:03AM DID BEFORE THE RECESSION.

9:28:05AM THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES CONTINUES TO GROW.

9:28:09AM AND WE SAW POSITIVE EXPORT GROWTH FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOUR

9:28:13AM YEARS.
9:28:14AM THE DATA SHOWS US THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE, AND THEY

9:28:18AM BELIEVE IN OUR ECONOMY.

9:28:20AM BUT THERE'S ANOTHER STORY TO TELL.

9:28:23AM IN MORE THAN THREE-QUARTERS OF THE INDICATORS, WE'RE IN THE

9:28:26AM BOTTOM HALF.

9:28:27AM AND MANY WERE STANDING STILL OR LOSING GROUND.

9:28:33AM OUR GRP PER CAPITA TAKES THE VALUE OF ALL THE GOODS AND

9:28:38AM SERVICES PRODUCED IN TAMPA BAY AND DIVIDES THAT BY OUR

9:28:43AM POPULATION.

9:28:43AM IT IS AN IMPORTANT WAY TO COMPARE THE WEALTH AND HEALTH OF

9:28:46AM OUR ECONOMY TO OUR COMPETITION.

9:28:48AM TAMPA BAY SITS IN LAST PLACE.

9:28:52AM AND HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN AT THE BOTTOM FOR MORE THAN TEN

9:28:56AM YEARS.

9:28:57AM MANY SIGNS NOW POINT TO A WIDENING ECONOMIC GAP IN OUR

9:29:01AM REGION.

9:29:03AM OUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME ONCE AGAIN RANKS LAST.

9:29:05AM OUR AVERAGE WAGE TRAILS ALL BUT ONE COMMUNITY.

9:29:09AM AND INCOME INEQUALITY IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH.

9:29:15AM FOR MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S BECOMING INCREASINGLY

9:29:18AM DIFFICULT TO AFFORD BASIC NECESSITIES SUCH AS HOUSING AND

9:29:21AM TRANSPORTATION.

9:29:21AM FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD A CAR OF THEIR OWN, OUR LACK OF

9:29:26AM PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS LIMITS THEIR ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE,

9:29:29AM CHILD CARE, AND JOBS, WHICH LEADS TO MORE PEOPLE SITTING OUT
9:29:33AM OF THE ECONOMY.

9:29:34AM AND FALLING DEEPER INTO POVERTY.

9:29:38AM BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE OUR STORY ENDS.

9:29:41AM THE DATA SHOWS US THAT THERE IS A CLEAR PATH FORWARD TO A

9:29:46AM COMPETITIVE, PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY WHERE NO ONE IS LEFT

9:29:50AM BEHIND.

9:29:51AM WE'VE STILL GOT SOME WORK TO DO, BUT WHEN WE KNOW OUR

9:29:54AM CHALLENGES, WE CAN SOLVE OUR CHALLENGES.

9:29:58AM AND WITH STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN TRANSIT, EDUCATION, AND

9:30:01AM OTHER IMPORTANT DRIVERS, WE CAN BEGIN TO CREATE A NEW

9:30:06AM TOMORROW TODAY.

9:30:19AM >> I'M DAVE SOBUSH, DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND RESEARCH FOR THE

9:30:23AM TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP.

9:30:24AM FOR THE NEXT FEW MINUTES, I'M GOING TO PEEL BACK A FEW OF

9:30:25AM THE INDICATORS THAT CAN HELP US SEE HOW CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC

9:30:29AM FACTORS IMPACT RESIDENTS' LEVELS OF OPPORTUNITY AND PERSONAL

9:30:32AM PROSPERITY.

9:30:32AM IN TERMS OF WHAT WE EARN IN THIS COMMUNITY -- AND I'M NOT

9:30:36AM SURE IF I CAN SEE --

9:30:41AM RIGHT THERE.

9:30:41AM IN TERMS OF WHAT WE EARN, THERE IS A MAJOR GAP BETWEEN TAMPA

9:30:45AM BAY AND OUR COMPETITION.

9:30:46AM WITH AN AVERAGE PRIVATE SECTOR WAGE OF $48,304, TAMPA BAY

9:30:51AM RANKS 19th OUT OF THE 20 MARKETS WE EXAMINE IN THE

9:30:54AM REGIONAL COMPETITIVENESS REPORT, TRAILING EVERY COMMUNITY
9:30:57AM EXCEPT ORLANDO.

9:30:58AM IF YOU'RE A WOMAN IN TAMPA BAY, YOUR PROSPECTS ARE EVEN

9:31:01AM WORSE.

9:31:02AM MALE WORKERS OVER THE AGE OF 25 IN TAMPA BAY EARN A MEDIAN

9:31:09AM WAGE OF $41,000 PER YEAR, WHILE FEMALE WORKERS ARE EARNING

9:31:13AM LESS THAN $32,000 PER YEAR.

9:31:17AM WE CAN SEE THAT WAGE GAP PERSISTING IN EVERY LEVEL OF

9:31:20AM EDUCATION.

9:31:20AM WITH THAT, EDUCATION MAY STILL BE THE BEST INDICATOR FOR

9:31:23AM PROFESSIONAL AND FINANCIAL SUCCESS IN TAMPA BAY, REGARDLESS

9:31:25AM OF GENDER.

9:31:26AM FOR A BASE LINE, THE TYPICAL WORKER IN TAMPA BAY OVER 25

9:31:30AM YEARS OLD EARNS A MEDIAN WAGE OF $36,000 PER YEAR.

9:31:35AM WITH A GRADUATE OR PROFESSIONAL DEGREE, IT'S ALMOST

9:31:37AM $62,000 PER YEAR, AND AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM,

9:31:41AM IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, THE MEDIAN WAGE

9:31:44AM IS AROUND $22,000 PER YEAR.

9:31:47AM ONE-THIRD OF TAMPA BAY RESIDENTS ARE EMPLOYED IN OCCUPATIONS

9:31:51AM WITH A MEDIAN WAGE OF LESS THAN $29,000.

9:31:55AM SO THE TYPE OF INDUSTRY IN WHICH YOU'RE EMPLOYED CAN ALSO

9:31:58AM PLAY A BIG ROLE IN WHAT YOU EARN.

9:32:00AM THESE LOW WAGES ARE TRANSLATING DIRECTLY INTO ANOTHER MAJOR

9:32:04AM WEAKNESS IN OUR REGION, OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME WHERE AT

9:32:08AM $55,000, WE RANK LAST AMONG OUR COMPETITORS.

9:32:11AM WE ALSO SEE A RACIAL DIVIDE.
9:32:14AM AFRICAN AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS IN TAMPA BAY ARE LEARNING LESS

9:32:16AM THAN $42,000.

9:32:18AM 72% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR WHITE HOUSEHOLDS.

9:32:22AM HOUSEHOLDS OF HISPANIC OR LATINO ORIGIN ARE FARING SLIGHTLY

9:32:26AM BETTER AT $48,000, BUT THAT'S STILL ONLY 82% OF THE MEDIAN

9:32:30AM INCOME FOR WHITE HOUSEHOLDS.

9:32:32AM I WILL SAY THAT WITHIN THE CITY AS A WHOLE, THESE GAPS ARE

9:32:36AM MORE PERSISTENT THAN THEY ARE WITHIN THE REGION.

9:32:39AM THE SPREAD BETWEEN WHITE NON-HISPANIC HOUSEHOLDS AND AFRICAN

9:32:44AM AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 42%, AND 52% FOR

9:32:49AM HISPANIC LATINO VERSUS WHITE NON-HISPANIC HOUSEHOLDS.

9:32:53AM COLLECTIVELY, ALL OF THESE EARNING GAPS WHETHER BY RACE,

9:32:57AM SEX, EDUCATION ATTAINMENT OR INDUSTRY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO A

9:33:00AM HIGH LEVEL OF POVERTY IN TAMPA BAY.

9:33:02AM WE RANK 16th IN THE YOUTH POVERTY INDICATOR, JOINING SOUTH

9:33:05AM FLORIDA AND ORLANDO IN THE GROUP OF COMMUNITIES WITH HIGHER

9:33:07AM RATES OF YOUTH POVERTY IN THE NATION AS A WHOLE.

9:33:11AM IN TAMPA BAY, THOSE LIVING IN POVERTY ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE

9:33:17AM YOUNG, LESS EDUCATED OR A PERSON OF COLOR.

9:33:25AM ALL OF WHICH TELLS US THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER WHEN IT

9:33:28AM COMES TO CLOSING THESE GAPS AND ENSURING EQUAL ACCESS TO

9:33:32AM EDUCATION AND OPPORTUNITY.

9:33:32AM WHILE WE OFTEN TOUT THE LOW COST OF LIVING IN TAMPA BAY, THE

9:33:39AM AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD IN OUR REGION IS SPENDING MORE THAN 50% OF

9:33:42AM MONTHLY INCOME ON HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION ALONE.
9:33:46AM IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THAT'S 53%.

9:33:47AM AND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S A LITTLE NORTH OF 60%.

9:33:52AM BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, MANY HOUSEHOLDS CAN ONLY

9:33:55AM ACCESS JOBS BY WALKING OR CYCLING, TRANSIT, OR SOME

9:33:58AM COMBINATION OF THESE MODES, WHICH PUTS THEM AT A REAL

9:34:01AM DISADVANTAGE CONSIDERING TAMPA'S LAST PLACE IN TERMS OF

9:34:04AM TRANSIT SUPPLY.

9:34:05AM WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERRESOURCED.

9:34:08AM THROUGH THE INNOVATIVE RESEARCH BEING DONE BY OUR PARTNERS

9:34:11AM AT USF, WE'VE LEARNED THAT TRANSIT CAN BE A REAL

9:34:14AM GAME-CHANGER WHEN IT COMES TO MOVING THE NEEDLE ON MANY OF

9:34:17AM THE CHALLENGES FACED BY OUR REGION.

9:34:19AM IF WE INCREASE TRANSIT AVAILABILITY BY 20 REVENUE MILES PER

9:34:23AM CAPITA, WHICH IS A FUNCTION OF COVERAGE AND FREQUENCY, IT'S

9:34:26AM A BIG LIFT, BUT A LEVEL OF SERVICE CONTEMPLATED WITH THE ALL

9:34:31AM FOR TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVE.

9:34:33AM WE COULD EXPECT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN POVERTY, INCOME

9:34:37AM INEQUALITY AND ECONOMIC MOBILITY.

9:34:39AM I KNOW THE DATA CAN BE SOBERING, BUT HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS.

9:34:47AM WE'RE GROWING.

9:34:47AM PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE.

9:34:49AM BUSINESSES WANT TO BE HERE, AND WITH THAT GROWTH, WE HAVE

9:34:52AM THE FOUNDATION WE NEED TO CREATE AN INCLUSIVE ECONOMY WHERE

9:34:56AM EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED.

9:34:58AM THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE TODAY.
9:35:01AM I'LL NOW INVITE RICK UP TO JOIN ME FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

9:35:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --

9:35:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL FOR INDULGING US TO PRESENT

9:35:14AM THIS AND THE TAMPA SCORECARD.COM GIVE A SOBERING PICTURE OF

9:35:18AM THE REALITY OF TAMPA.

9:35:19AM THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HEARD A LOT OF RHETORIC ABOUT HOW

9:35:22AM GREAT TAMPA IS AND WE ARE ALL TAMPA BOOSTERS AND WE WANT TO

9:35:26AM MOTIVATE THE COMMUNITY TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

9:35:30AM BUT THE TRUTH ALSO IS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REAL

9:35:32AM NUMBERS.

9:35:33AM IF WE'RE BEHIND ON THREE-QUARTERS OF THE NUMBERS, AND IF YOU

9:35:36AM BREAK IT OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT TAMPA SCORECARD, TAMPA IS THE

9:35:40AM LAGGARD IN THE REGION.

9:35:42AM THESE ARE REGIONAL NUMBERS, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK -- OUR JOB

9:35:45AM IS TO LOOK AT TAMPA AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO.

9:35:48AM I'LL USE ONE MORE OVERUSED ANALOGY, BUT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT

9:35:53AM THE ANALOGY OF ALICE IN WONDERLAND.

9:35:56AM SHE COMES UPON THE CHESHIRE CAT, AND SHE SAYS, "WHICH WAY DO

9:36:00AM I GO? THERE ARE TWO ROADS."

9:36:02AM HE SAYS, "WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO GET TO?"

9:36:06AM SHE SAYS, "I DON'T QUITE KNOW."

9:36:07AM HE SAID, "WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH ROAD YOU TAKE."

9:36:10AM IF WE LOOK AT NUMBERS AND WE'RE DATA DRIVEN, WE CAN IDENTIFY

9:36:13AM NOT ONLY PROBLEMS BUT THEN THE SOLUTIONS.

9:36:15AM I THINK IT'S OUR JOB AS POLICY MAKERS, AS WE'VE ALL
9:36:18AM DISCUSSED, TO FIND THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS AND WORK WITH GROUPS

9:36:21AM LIKE THIS TO MAKE SURE WE SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS FOR THE

9:36:23AM FUTURE AND PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON THE POVERTY CRISIS WE HAVE,

9:36:27AM THE HOUSING CRISIS AND THE EQUITY ISSUES.

9:36:29AM THANK YOU.

9:36:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

9:36:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

9:36:33AM PRESENTATION -- FOR AN HONEST PRESENTATION.

9:36:35AM I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

9:36:37AM I DIDN'T LOOK THROUGH THE BOOKLETS HERE, BUT YOU'VE SHOWN

9:36:40AM THE REALITY OF -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD HAPPENING.

9:36:43AM A LOT OF CRANES AND CONSTRUCTION AND TAMPA IS BOOMING.

9:36:46AM WHAT ABOUT THE POOR PEOPLE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, THE

9:36:49AM AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY?

9:36:51AM WE'VE HEARD THE SAME STORY FOR 50, 60 YEARS AND NOTHING

9:36:55AM CHANGES.

9:36:55AM IT'S UP TO US AS A BODY, AS A MAYOR, YOU GUYS, YOUR

9:36:59AM ORGANIZATIONS AND WHATNOT TO GET THINGS DONE.

9:37:02AM PEOPLE COME HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK.

9:37:04AM THEY SAY THEIR PIECE.

9:37:06AM WHY IS IT IN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH WE ARE THE GREATEST

9:37:09AM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, MAYBE WE'RE BEHIND CHINA, WHATEVER,

9:37:13AM GLOBALLY, ECONOMICALLY, WHY DO WE STILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT

9:37:16AM POVERTY?

9:37:17AM THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE.
9:37:18AM SO MUCH WEALTH.

9:37:18AM I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT.

9:37:20AM HOW MUCH WEALTH IS THERE IN THE WORLD?

9:37:22AM WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT?

9:37:24AM 200 TRILLION?

9:37:25AM WHAT IS IT?

9:37:30AM WHY DOES POVERTY EXIST?

9:37:31AM WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK HARD BUT CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET.

9:37:35AM HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION, 22,000.

9:37:36AM HOW DO THEY LIVE ON THAT?

9:37:39AM HOW DO THEY HAVE CHILDREN?

9:37:40AM HOW CAN THEY CHASE THE AMERICAN DREAM WHERE THEY ARE NOT

9:37:42AM MOVING UP IN THE WORLD?

9:37:44AM YOU CAN'T BE RELYING CONSTANTLY ON FOOT STAMPS AND OTHER

9:37:47AM SUBSIDIES.

9:37:48AM THESE PEOPLE WORK HARD AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO EARN A

9:37:51AM LIVING, REASONABLE WAGE AND SOMETHING THEY CAN ASPIRE TO.

9:37:55AM MY GRANDPARENTS CAME HERE FROM CUBA WITH NOTHING.

9:37:58AM MY GRANDFATHER WORKED THREE JOBS, WHATEVER IT TOOK TO MAKE

9:38:01AM ENDS MEET.

9:38:02AM HE WAS ABLE TO ATTAIN SOMEWHAT OF A MIDDLE-CLASS LIFESTYLE

9:38:06AM THROUGH HIS HARD WORK.

9:38:08AM NOW PEOPLE WORK TWO, THREE JOBS AND BARELY MAKE ENDS MEET.

9:38:12AM THAT GOES INTO A DEEPER DISCUSSION.

9:38:13AM WE REALLY HAVEN'T FOCUSED ON TRYING TO SOLVE THE POVERTY
9:38:17AM ISSUE OR THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE OR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

9:38:20AM ISSUE.

9:38:20AM WE CAMPAIGN AND WE PROMISE AND WE SAY, BUT WHERE IS THE

9:38:25AM LEADERSHIP?

9:38:26AM I KNOW IT'S UP TO US.

9:38:27AM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

9:38:28AM PEOPLE KEEP WAITING.

9:38:30AM IT'S 2020.

9:38:31AM 1990 THE CONVERSATION WAS THE SAME.

9:38:34AM 1970, THE CONVERSATION WAS THE SAME.

9:38:36AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH IN THIS.

9:38:39AM IT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO GO BEFORE WE GET TO THAT

9:38:41AM MOUNTAINTOP, SOME KIND OF LEGITIMATE --

9:38:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RICK, YOU AND YOUR GROUP HAVE SHOWN US A LOT

9:38:52AM HERE.

9:38:52AM I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

9:38:54AM I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE FIGURES ADDED.

9:38:57AM I'D LIKE TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN.

9:38:59AM YOU WERE TALKING TAMPA BAY.

9:39:00AM I WANT TO SEE TAMPA.

9:39:01AM I ALSO WANT TO SEE THE FIGURES THAT WERE 40, 30, 20 TEN

9:39:09AM YEARS AGO.

9:39:09AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE TAMPA HAS NOT MOVED FASTER IN TRYING TO

9:39:13AM ELIMINATE POVERTY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAN THESE OTHER

9:39:18AM HAVE.
9:39:19AM DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?

9:39:20AM WE MAY VERY WELL HAVE BEEN MOVING MUCH FASTER THAN THESE

9:39:23AM OTHER CITIES THAT YOU HAVE PUT BEFORE US RIGHT NOW.

9:39:26AM CAN YOU GIVE ME THOSE FIGURES FROM 30, 40, 10 YEARS AGO?

9:39:33AM AGAIN, THIS IS TAMPA.

9:39:34AM YOU'RE GROUPING US IN WITH TAMPA BAY.

9:39:36AM I DID IT.

9:39:37AM WE ARE REGIONAL.

9:39:37AM YES, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT I WANT TO SEE TAMPA.

9:39:43AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

9:39:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MORE THING AFTER YOU FINISH.

9:39:47AM PLEASE, GO AHEAD.

9:39:48AM >> MAYBE 30, I DON'T KNOW GOING BACK 40 AND 50, JUST THE

9:39:52AM ANNEXATION AND THE FACT THAT THE FIGURES ARE IN A DUSTY BOOK

9:39:59AM AT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.

9:40:01AM WE TALK ABOUT TAMPA BAY AS A REGION, AND I HEARD YOU

9:40:05AM REFERENCE THE COMPARISON COMMUNITIES AS CITIES, BUT THOSE

9:40:08AM ARE ALSO REGIONS.

9:40:09AM MINNEAPOLIS ST. PAUL, THAT IS A 16-COUNTY AREA THAT

9:40:17AM STRETCHES INTO PARTS OF RURAL WISCONSIN.

9:40:20AM WE DO FEEL THAT IT IS AN APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON.

9:40:25AM COMMUNITIES ARE PART OF METROPOLITAN REGIONS BECAUSE THERE

9:40:27AM IS A SHARED WORKFORCE.

9:40:29AM THERE ARE ECONOMIC LINKAGES.

9:40:35AM THERE ARE MANY RATIONALES FOR IT TAKING THE METROPOLITAN
9:40:37AM APPROACH.

9:40:38AM THAT SAID, WE ARE PLEASED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN THE NEAR

9:40:43AM FUTURE, IN MID SPRING OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL BE LAUNCHING ON

9:40:46AM OUR STATE OF THE REGION.COM WEBSITE THE ABILITY TO DIVE DOWN

9:40:51AM AND NOT JUST COMPARE, SAY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO CHARLOTTE,

9:40:55AM BUT THE MORE APPROPRIATE COMPARISON, WHICH WOULD BE

9:40:58AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO MECKLENBURG COUNTY AND WHERE THE DATA

9:41:01AM IS AVAILABLE, COMPARE CITY OF TAMPA TO CITY OF CHARLOTTE,

9:41:06AM FOR EXAMPLE, AND NOT COMPARE CITIES TO REGIONS BUT COMPARE

9:41:09AM REGIONS TO REGIONS, COUNTIES TO COUNTIES, CITIES TO CITIES

9:41:12AM WHERE AVAILABLE.

9:41:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

9:41:14AM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE.

9:41:16AM JUST ONE PORTION HERE WHICH TALKS ABOUT EDUCATION.

9:41:19AM RALEIGH DURHAM IS AT THE TOP.

9:41:21AM THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE HAS HOW MANY COLLEGES THERE?

9:41:24AM NC STATE, WAKE FOREST, DUKE.

9:41:27AM HOW MANY COLLEGES DO THEY HAVE THERE?

9:41:29AM >> THOSE ARE THE THREE I WOULD NAME, COUNCILMAN.

9:41:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHERS.

9:41:33AM >> YES.

9:41:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE COMPARISON

9:41:36AM BETWEEN THAT AND TAMPA.

9:41:37AM THANK YOU.

9:41:38AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR FACTS AND FIGURES.
9:41:41AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE HOW RETIREMENT PLAYS IN THE FACTS

9:41:44AM AND FIGURES.

9:41:45AM THIS IS A HUGE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.

9:41:47AM HOW DOES THAT BALANCE OUT WITH THE FIGURES THAT YOU HAVE

9:41:49AM ALONG WITH THE OTHERS THAT MAY NOT BE RETIREMENT,

9:41:52AM MINNEAPOLIS ST. PAUL.

9:41:54AM >> ALL OF THE INDICATORS ARE APPLES TO APPLES.

9:41:55AM IT IS THE SAME SOURCE USED FOR EVERY COMMUNITY.

9:41:58AM SO THE COMPARISON ON THE DATA LEVEL ARE ACCURATE.

9:42:02AM WHILE EVERYBODY IS DRAWN TO TAMPA BAY VERSUS A PARTICULAR

9:42:07AM CITY COMPARISON, WHAT I TRY TO REALLY ADVOCATE FOR IS TAMPA

9:42:11AM BAY COMPARED TO THE PANOPLY OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN

9:42:15AM THERE.

9:42:16AM THERE IS NOT ANY COMMUNITY LIKE TAMPA BAY.

9:42:19AM IT'S WHY IT'S SPECIAL.

9:42:21AM IT'S WHY WE LIVE HERE.

9:42:22AM BUT THERE ARE COMPONENTS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LIKE

9:42:24AM TAMPA BAY.

9:42:25AM COMPONENTS THAT HAVE A LARGE MILITARY PRESENCE.

9:42:28AM COMPONENTS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH A RESEARCH UNIVERSITY.

9:42:30AM THERE ARE THREE OTHER FLORIDA METROS THAT ARE ALSO

9:42:33AM REQUIREMENT DESTINATIONS.

9:42:37AM PHOENIX AND SAN DIEGO COME TO MIND AS OTHER RETIREMENT

9:42:42AM DESTINATIONS.

9:42:42AM WE RECEIVE THE QUESTION OVER AND OVER.
9:42:45AM I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE DEEPER DIVE WE DID IN THE

9:42:50AM TALENT SECTION, WHICH IS AROUND LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION,

9:42:52AM WHICH IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE, 25 TO 64 ARE IN THE

9:42:59AM LABOR FORCE.

9:43:00AM AND WE LOOKED AT THAT.

9:43:02AM TAMPA BAY'S CHALLENGE IS NOT IN THE LATER YEARS.

9:43:04AM IT'S NOT IN THE 55 TO 64.

9:43:07AM IT IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE BEHIND IN EVERY SINGLE AGE

9:43:10AM BRACKET OF THAT LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION.

9:43:13AM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE ECONOMY AT A LOWER

9:43:16AM RATE THAN OTHERS.

9:43:17AM WE DO OUR BEST TO PROVIDE A FOREST OF COMMUNITIES FOR WHICH

9:43:25AM TO COMPARE TAMPA BAY RATHER THAN THIS TREE VERSUS THIS TREE.

9:43:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

9:43:34AM I AGREE THAT TAMPA IS A BIG CITY AND NEED TO START ACTING

9:43:37AM LIKE ONE.

9:43:37AM WE HAVE A DEEP WATER PORT THAT IN MY OPINION IS GOING

9:43:39AM UNDERUSED.

9:43:40AM SHOULD HAVE MANUFACTURING, IMPORTING, EXPORTING, WHICH WOULD

9:43:44AM BUILD CAREERS -- CAREERS, NOT JUST JOBS, FOR SOME OF OUR

9:43:47AM PEOPLE.

9:43:48AM THANK YOU AGAIN.

9:43:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOING THE DARK FINALLY COMES TO THE LIGHT.

9:44:00AM LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE, YOU BROUGHT IT TO THE LIGHT.

9:44:02AM NOW WE JUST HOPE THAT FOLKS WHO ARE POLICY MAKERS CAN
9:44:09AM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LIGHT IS ALL ABOUT, HOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

9:44:11AM IN DARKNESS.

9:44:14AM I WAS AT AN EVENT LAST WEEK, AND THIS GENTLEMAN, MR. MEADE,

9:44:19AM HE TALKED ABOUT TWO TYPES OF FOLKS, FOLKS THAT ARE

9:44:26AM CONTRIBUTORS AND FOLKS THAT ARE COMMITTED.

9:44:31AM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE?

9:44:33AM I'M HOPING THAT THIS BOARD IS COMMITTED, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST

9:44:37AM CONTRIBUTORS.

9:44:37AM I HOPE THE POLICY MAKERS LISTENING THAT WE NEED COMMITTEE

9:44:40AM PEOPLE, NOT -- COMMITTED PEOPLE NOT CONTRIBUTORS.

9:44:43AM WHEN YOU'RE COMMITTED THAT MEANS YOU PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE

9:44:47AM LINE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.

9:44:49AM NOT A NICKEL OR DIME AND MOVE ON YOUR WAY.

9:44:53AM I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO MUSTER UP THIS INFORMATION SO WE

9:44:56AM KNOW WHERE WE TRULY ARE.

9:44:58AM I HEARD MANY TIMES WE'RE THE NEXT GREAT CITY.

9:45:01AM WE ARE THE GREAT CITY AND I TELL PEOPLE WE ARE NOT THERE

9:45:05AM YET.

9:45:05AM WE'RE WAY BEHIND.

9:45:06AM AS YOUR NUMBERS SHOW THAT, WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM.

9:45:10AM SO I'M HOPING THAT THE POLICY MAKERS WILL LISTEN AND WAKE UP

9:45:14AM AND WE'LL BE COMMITTED TO MAKE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

9:45:18AM TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

9:45:20AM HOT TOPIC IN TAMPA, TRANSPORTATION.

9:45:22AM WHAT IRKS ME ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHEN I SEE THESE
9:45:26AM PLANS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING GOING TO THE HEART OF THE CITY.

9:45:31AM I DON'T SEE ANY PLANS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT WE WANT TO MAKE

9:45:34AM IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP PEOPLE, BUT THERE ARE MORE RAILROAD

9:45:38AM TRACKS UNUTILIZED IN THE INNER CITY.

9:45:41AM SO WE TALK ABOUT JOBS, GETTING PEOPLE A TO B, IF THERE IS A

9:45:46AM JOB OUT IN WIMAUMA OR RUSKIN, WHERE ARE THOSE TRACKS GOING

9:45:50AM TO GO TO GET THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT LITTLE MESH AREA?

9:45:56AM HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THERE?

9:45:58AM ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT DOWNTOWN, UNIVERSITY, OR CONCERNED

9:46:03AM ABOUT EVERYBODY?

9:46:04AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IT NEEDS TO

9:46:06AM SUPPORT EVERY COMMUNITY, NOT JUST CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, BUT

9:46:09AM EVERY COMMUNITY.

9:46:10AM I WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR THAT.

9:46:12AM I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT TRACKS GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

9:46:17AM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STOPPING

9:46:20AM POVERTY AND GETTING PEOPLE TO WORK AND DOING WHAT WE NEED TO

9:46:24AM DO TO BE COMMITTED.

9:46:25AM THAT'S MY THING.

9:46:27AM COMMITTED.

9:46:29AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

9:46:30AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, AND THANKS TO THE

9:46:33AM ORGANIZATION FOR BRINGING ALL THIS EFFORT INTO THIS.

9:46:38AM I THINK THESE BENCHMARKS AND THE DATA BEHIND THEM ARE

9:46:42AM EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
9:46:44AM SO WE KNOW, AS MR. CITRO SAID, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'VE

9:46:49AM BEEN, WE SEE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

9:46:52AM THE ITEMS THAT CONCERN ME PERHAPS THE MOST ARE THE DISPARITY

9:46:59AM IN REGARD TO RACIAL AND GENDER AND THE ECONOMIC DISPARITY IN

9:47:05AM THOSE GROUPS.

9:47:06AM NOT TO BE CRITICAL, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN'T DO

9:47:13AM EVERYTHING, BUT WE NEED HELP.

9:47:16AM I'VE HEARD UP HERE THE DECISION MAKERS, WE ARE THE DECISION

9:47:19AM MAKERS.

9:47:21AM WE'RE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS ALONG WITH

9:47:24AM COUNTY COMMISSIONS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE REGION

9:47:30AM AND MAYORS, ET CETERA.

9:47:31AM SO WE ARE THE DECISION MAKERS.

9:47:33AM BUT THE NEXT STEP IS WE NEED HELP IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE FIX

9:47:36AM SOME OF THESE THINGS?

9:47:37AM I KNOW THERE'S NOT A SWITCH OVERNIGHT TO TAKE US FROM THE

9:47:40AM BOTTOM TO THE TOP IN THESE CATEGORIES, BUT HOW DO WE GET

9:47:43AM THESE THINGS TO GO UP?

9:47:46AM I RECALL IN THE PAST, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ABOUT WAGES.

9:47:51AM I KNOW IN THE PAST, SOME OF THE REASONS WE ATTRACTED SOME OF

9:47:55AM THE BUSINESSES THAT WE DID GET IN TERMS OF THE BACKROOM CALL

9:48:00AM CENTERS, WHICH WAS THE BIG DEAL 15, 20 YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE

9:48:03AM HAD LOW WAGES AND SOME OF THOSE INDUSTRIES WERE ATTRACTED TO

9:48:06AM US BEFORE THEY WENT TO INDIA IN THAT REGARD.

9:48:14AM WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COMMUNITY AND WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST
9:48:17AM THIS BODY DOES TO GET US OUT OF THE BOTTOM IN SOME OF THESE

9:48:24AM CATEGORIES?

9:48:25AM >> WELL, COUNCILOR, GREAT QUESTION, AND IT IS THE MOST OFTEN

9:48:29AM ASKED QUESTION, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS NOW.

9:48:32AM THE FIRST IMPORTANT STEP WE FELT WAS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE

9:48:35AM SOME DATA IN FRONT OF US ON WHICH WE AGREE, BECAUSE YOU

9:48:39AM CAN'T DEVELOP A STRATEGY WITHOUT METRICS AND WITHOUT BEING

9:48:44AM ABLE TO SET GOALS.

9:48:46AM IN OUR MIND, THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE NEED TO AS A

9:48:50AM COMMUNITY BEGIN TO SET SOME REASONABLE GOALS, AND THEN WE

9:48:55AM NEED TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO GET THERE.

9:48:57AM SOME OF THESE ARE VERY INTERLINKED WITH EACH OTHER.

9:49:00AM WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO WORK AS A REGION, AS A

9:49:04AM MARKET, AS AN ECONOMY TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

9:49:08AM IF ONE COUNTY OR ONE CITY IS DOING THIS OVER HERE AND

9:49:11AM NOTHING IS HAPPENING OVER HERE, IT'S LIKE A WHAC-A-MOLE AND

9:49:18AM YOU NEVER REALLY END UP SOLVING THE PROBLEM.

9:49:20AM IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME REGIONAL CONVERSATIONS, REGIONAL

9:49:23AM COORDINATION.

9:49:23AM IT IS GOING TO TAKE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER

9:49:26AM MARKETS AND BRINGING THOSE PEOPLE HERE TO GIVE US IDEAS

9:49:31AM ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR OWN

9:49:35AM UNIQUE WAY.

9:49:36AM THE FIRST STEP IS TO ACCEPT WHAT WE HAVE.

9:49:38AM THE NEXT IS TO SET GOALS AND THEN DEVELOP A STRATEGY.
9:49:42AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN OUR

9:49:46AM COMMUNITY.

9:49:47AM SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE'RE TAMPA, ARE WE TAMPA BAY, WHAT

9:49:51AM DOES THAT MEAN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA?

9:49:53AM I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS

9:49:56AM HOLISTICALLY.

9:49:59AM MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE CITY LIMITS ARE, WHERE

9:50:03AM THE CITY STARTS AND THE COUNTY STARTS.

9:50:05AM PEOPLE IN TOWN N' COUNTRY, WE SEND THEM UTILITY BILL BECAUSE

9:50:08AM WE HAPPEN TO BROUGHT WATER AND SEWER IN TOWN N' COUNTRY.

9:50:12AM THEY THINK THEY ARE PART OF THE CITY WHEN IN REALITY THEY

9:50:15AM ARE PART OF THE COUNTY.

9:50:16AM THOSE LINES HAVE FADED OVER THE YEARS WITH OUR REGION,

9:50:19AM PEOPLE COMPLAIN TO US ABOUT TRAFFIC.

9:50:22AM THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC, YOU GUYS ARE APPROVING ALL THESE

9:50:25AM PROJECTS.

9:50:25AM THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM.

9:50:28AM SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IS, BUT MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS COMING

9:50:30AM FROM THE REGION BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS AN ATTRACTOR.

9:50:34AM I REMEMBER MAYOR PAM TALKING ABOUT THAT 15 YEARS AGO.

9:50:38AM WE ARE AN ATTRACTOR, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF THE

9:50:42AM TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM.

9:50:43AM THEY ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE BASE.

9:50:47AM DRIVING TO BRANDON, THIS AND THAT.

9:50:49AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ON A REGIONAL LEVEL, BUT AT THE SAME
9:50:52AM TIME, I SO LOOK FORWARD TO GROUPS LIKE YOURS AND OTHERS

9:50:58AM COMING FORTH WITH REALLY TANGIBLE SOLUTIONS.

9:51:02AM WHAT CAN THIS BODY DO TO DO A BETTER JOB ON AFFORDABLE

9:51:05AM HOUSING?

9:51:05AM I THINK WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT WITH TRANSPORTATION

9:51:09AM EVERYTHING WE CAN.

9:51:10AM WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE COURT BATTLE.

9:51:12AM ONCE WE DO IN A POSITIVE WAY, THIS BODY AND I KNOW THE MAYOR

9:51:18AM WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REGION ON THE TRANSPORTATION.

9:51:20AM I THINK WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THERE ARE

9:51:24AM SO MANY CHALLENGES.

9:51:26AM >> COUNCILOR, I SPECIFICALLY WILL SAY THAT ALL THE RESEARCH

9:51:30AM POINTS TO TRANSIT AS BEING THE BIGGEST ENABLER.

9:51:33AM IT DOESN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING BY ITSELF, BUT IT ENABLES US TO

9:51:37AM THEN DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO DEAL WITH EDUCATIONAL ACCESS,

9:51:41AM ATTAINMENT, WITH ACCESS TO JOBS TO HEALTH CARE, TO CHILD

9:51:45AM CARE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

9:51:46AM AND WITHOUT TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO ESPECIALLY LOWER,

9:51:50AM MIDDLE INCOME RESIDENTS, ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE DIMINISHED

9:51:55AM SUBSTANTIALLY, AND IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT AFFECTS OUR POVERTY

9:52:00AM RATE AND HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

9:52:02AM I THINK THAT WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING THERE.

9:52:05AM WE'RE GOING ALL IN ON TRANSIT.

9:52:08AM HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME COMPARABLE MEASURES ACROSS THE BAY

9:52:11AM IN PINELLAS COUNTY AND UP IN PASCO COUNTY, BUT THAT'S A BIG
9:52:16AM STEP FORWARD THAT SHOULD LONG TERM IMPACT THESE NUMBERS.

9:52:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, I AGREE WITH YOU

9:52:22AM ON THE TRANSIT.

9:52:23AM MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL HERE.

9:52:25AM ENDED UP IN D.C. FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.

9:52:28AM SHE'S NEVER DRIVEN SINCE.

9:52:29AM SHE'S IN D.C.

9:52:30AM SHE DOES EVERY POSSIBLE FORM OF TRANSIT AND BASICALLY THREW

9:52:35AM AWAY HER LICENSE, EXCEPT SHE USES IT FOR ID.

9:52:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: LAST WORD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

9:52:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THIS ON TV AT HOME OR

9:52:44AM HEARING ABOUT IT, THIS BODY HAS DONE A LOT IN THE LAST FEW

9:52:47AM MONTHS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

9:52:49AM THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS PRESENTATION, THE TAMPA SCORECARD

9:52:54AM PRESENTATION AND OTHERS MEANS THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND I

9:52:56AM SERIOUSLY WANT TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, AND WE SERIOUSLY

9:52:59AM WANT TO ADDRESS THEM.

9:53:00AM AND WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

9:53:03AM PEOPLE SOMETIMES WONDER WHY DO YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME

9:53:06AM TALKING ABOUT CRAs AND CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS, ALL OF

9:53:09AM THAT IS TIED BACK TO THIS.

9:53:12AM WOMEN'S RIGHTS, ALL TIED BACK.

9:53:14AM MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND BUSINESS, ALL TIED BACK TO THIS.

9:53:19AM WHY DO WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVER AND OVER AGAIN?

9:53:21AM BECAUSE IT'S TIED BACK INTO THESE NUMBERS.
9:53:23AM NOW WE'RE GETTING A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE CRA, AND

9:53:26AM WE'RE GETTING A NEW HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CAROL

9:53:29AM POST, AND WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IS WORKING

9:53:33AM COLLABORATIVELY WITH HER AND WITH YOUR GROUP AND OTHERS SO

9:53:36AM THAT WE CAN CREATE A REALLY DYNAMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,

9:53:40AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TAMPA AND THE REGION THAT

9:53:44AM THESE KIND OF DATA AND SHOWS HOW WE MOVE ON THIS DATA, NOT

9:53:48AM JUST COUNTING THE NUMBER OF CONDOS IN DOWNTOWN.

9:53:50AM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

9:53:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND

9:53:55AM EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THAT REPORT.

9:53:57AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

9:53:58AM I WAS THINKING, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOING

9:54:01AM WELL AND WE'RE ALWAYS PRESENTED WITH OPTIMISM AND WHATNOT.

9:54:05AM AND WE SHOULD.

9:54:06AM THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE

9:54:08AM CITY OF TAMPA THAT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

9:54:10AM BUT IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF ON A NATIONAL SCALE IN THE

9:54:14AM 1960s, WHEN THE ECONOMY WAS GREAT, ET CETERA.

9:54:18AM WRITER NAMED MICHAEL HARRINGTON WROTE A BOOK CALLED "THE

9:54:22AM OTHER AMERICA."

9:54:23AM LISTEN, THINGS ARE AFFLUENT.

9:54:25AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AFFLUENT SOCIETY.

9:54:27AM THE OTHER AMERICA.

9:54:28AM THE OTHER AMERICA THAT WOULD LOVE TO LIVE PAYCHECK TO
9:54:31AM PAYCHECK.

9:54:32AM IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE BELOW THAT LEVEL OF DIGNITY, OF

9:54:35AM ANXIOUS DIGNITY.

9:54:36AM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER TAMPA.

9:54:38AM THE PART OF TAMPA THAT WE DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT FOR MANY,

9:54:42AM MANY REASONS.

9:54:43AM I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.

9:54:45AM WE KNOW HISTORICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR ECONOMY.

9:54:48AM AFTER WORLD WAR II TO THE EARLY 19 OPENs, ALL PARTS OF OUR

9:54:52AM ECONOMY LARGELY GREW TOGETHER, BUT THEN IN 1970s, THE

9:54:56AM BOTTOM FELL OUT OF OUR ECONOMY WITH A MANUFACTURING BASE.

9:54:59AM IT HAPPENED TO COINCIDE WITH A NATIONAL TENDENCY TO SOLVE

9:55:04AM THOSE INVESTMENTS THAT HELPED, IN MY OPINION, CREATE THE

9:55:07AM MIDDLE CLASS AS BEING PART OF THE PROBLEM.

9:55:08AM YOU PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND THAT CREATED A REAL BIG

9:55:11AM CHALLENGE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH

9:55:14AM OBVIOUSLY HAD A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT ON TAMPA.

9:55:17AM IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.

9:55:18AM I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE CAN DO IN THE

9:55:20AM CITY.

9:55:20AM SOMETHING I ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THAT I'M ACTUALLY WORKING

9:55:23AM WITH SOME FOLKS ON TO PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK,

9:55:26AM TO HELP GIVE PEOPLE A PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASSES,

9:55:30AM ENCOURAGING APPRENTICESHIPS.

9:55:32AM TAKING YOUNG PEOPLE GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL AND NOT SURE
9:55:34AM ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.

9:55:36AM HEY, LISTEN, YOU DO AN APPRENTICESHIP WITH STEEL OR PIPES,

9:55:39AM ELECTRIC, ET CETERA, YOU COULD ON YOUR WAY TO EARNING 40,

9:55:45AM 50, 60 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

9:55:46AM THAT'S SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO WORK ON TO HAVE A PLAN AND

9:55:49AM MOVE FORWARD.

9:55:49AM THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO LONG TERM AS WELL AS RIGHT HERE,

9:55:53AM RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THE INVESTMENTS IN THE PEOPLE IGNORED TOO

9:55:56AM LONG.

9:55:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.

9:55:57AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

9:55:59AM THANK YOU.

9:55:59AM NEXT WE MOVE ONWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

9:56:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:56:11AM MENTESNOT.

9:56:12AM THAT WAS A NICE PRESENTATION JUST DONE.

9:56:14AM THE REALITY IS, THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO WILLPOWER,

9:56:21AM AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NO MAYOR.

9:56:25AM THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

9:56:27AM WEEK AFTER WEEK FOR THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS NO MAYOR.

9:56:30AM YOU KNOW WHY?

9:56:32AM BECAUSE IT IS A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL AND YOU CAN'T DO

9:56:35AM NOTHING.

9:56:36AM YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING BUT SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE.

9:56:39AM THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO.
9:56:42AM CITY COUNCIL AFTER CITY COUNCIL CAN'T DO NOTHING BUT SIGN ON

9:56:44AM THE DOTTED LINE.

9:56:46AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.

9:56:47AM BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET AND WHAT YOU ALL DID.

9:56:50AM NOTHING FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

9:56:51AM YOU-ALL SIGN ON THE BOTTOM LINE.

9:56:58AM PEOPLE DOWN HERE COMPLAINING, PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT

9:57:00AM ROUNDABOUTS THAT WE DON'T NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT YOU

9:57:03AM ALL DO?

9:57:03AM YOU ALL SIGN ON THE BOTTOM LINE AND THEN YOU ALL TALK THIS

9:57:07AM GARBAGE, STRAIGHT GARBAGE WHEN BLACK PEOPLE TRY TO TALK, YOU

9:57:11AM ALL DON'T FEEL US.

9:57:13AM YOU DON'T HAVE THE TOLERANCE FOR US.

9:57:14AM NO TOLERANCE.

9:57:15AM NO SENSITIVITY.

9:57:17AM NO SENSITIVITY AT ALL, NONE, BECAUSE IT'S HATRED.

9:57:22AM IT'S A HATRED YOU ALL HAVE FOR US.

9:57:25AM EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU ALL, IT IS A HATRED YOU HAVE FOR BLACK

9:57:28AM PEOPLE.

9:57:29AM YOU KNOW HOW YOU KNOW IT?

9:57:31AM YOU ALL CELEBRATE POVERTY.

9:57:32AM YOU CELEBRATE POVERTY.

9:57:34AM THAT'S WHAT CAPITALISM AND IMPERIALISM AND COLONIALISM AND

9:57:39AM NEOCOLONIALISM, THAT'S WHAT IT IS MADE OF.

9:57:46AM THAT'S WHY 22 RICH WHITE MEN HAVE MORE WEALTH THAN ALL THE
9:57:53AM WOMEN ON THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA.

9:57:56AM THAT'S WHAT TED TURNER HAVE MORE PROPERTY THAN ALL THE BLACK

9:58:01AM PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES.

9:58:03AM WHY?

9:58:04AM BECAUSE IT'S BUILT OFF OF HATRED.

9:58:06AM BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD 20 MILLION ACRES OF LAND FOR OUR

9:58:09AM FARMERS, THE WHITE FOLKS RAN US OFF OUR PROPERTY.

9:58:12AM RAN US OUT OF ROSEWOOD, RAN US OUT OF PLACES RIGHT AROUND

9:58:17AM HERE.

9:58:18AM TAKE OUR PROPERTY.

9:58:19AM OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT AND IT IS A HATRED YOU ALL

9:58:22AM HAVE FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.

9:58:25AM IT'S A HATRED YOU HAVE FOR BLACK SKIN.

9:58:29AM IT IS A HATRED AND YOU ALL CELEBRATE THE NONSENSE.

9:58:31AM YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW YOU HAVE A HATRED OR PERSONAL HATRED,

9:58:36AM EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU ALL GOING TO BE AT GASPARILLA

9:58:41AM PARADE CELEBRATING HERESY AND BLACK HATRED.

9:58:48AM CELEBRATING IT.

9:58:49AM YOU ALL CELEBRATE THESE REPORTS.

9:58:53AM YOU HEAR WHAT ONE MAN SAY.

9:58:55AM WE WANT TO SEE ANOTHER STUDY.

9:58:57AM EVERYBODY WANT TO SEE ANOTHER STUDY.

9:59:00AM IF I HAVE SEX, IF I GET A PROSTITUTE ON CREDIT, I WANT TO

9:59:07AM TRY THAT AGAIN, TOO.

9:59:07AM I WANT TO TRY IT AGAIN.
9:59:08AM YOU ALL KEEP TRYING BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ALL HATE US.

9:59:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:59:12AM NEXT, PLEASE.

9:59:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, JOHNNY JOHNSON.

9:59:20AM WE COME DOWN HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK WITH THE SAME INFORMATION

9:59:26AM THE TAMPA PARTNERSHIP JUST GAVE YOU GUYS.

9:59:29AM IT SHOULDN'T BE NO SURPRISE OF THE NUMBERS THAT HE PRESENTED

9:59:33AM TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE COME DOWN HERE EACH AND EVERY

9:59:37AM THURSDAY TO LET YOU KNOW NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

9:59:40AM YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM THE ROOT OF THE SITUATION, NOT FROM A

9:59:43AM STUDY OR A STATISTIC.

9:59:45AM THESE ARE FROM THE ROOTS.

9:59:46AM WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MAKES THE CITY GO.

9:59:48AM THE LOW-PAID PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT ENTITLE YOU GUYS TO

9:59:54AM HAVE YOUR STATUS.

9:59:55AM DON'T BE SURPRISED AT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'VE SEEN BECAUSE

9:59:59AM AGAIN WE'RE DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK DEMONSTRATING THOSE

10:00:03AM NUMBERS.

10:00:04AM MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE

10:00:06AM INFORMATION THAT YOU GOT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSON,

10:00:09AM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OR A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION?

10:00:11AM AGAIN, WE GAVE YOU THE NUMBERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WEEK

10:00:14AM AFTER WEEK, YEAR AFTER YEAR AND YOU HAVEN'T DID ANYTHING

10:00:17AM WITH IT.

10:00:18AM YOU PASS DOWN THE BATON.
10:00:20AM I GUESS YOU ALL WILL STAND IN PLACE AND NOT RUN THE RACE.

10:00:23AM THAT IS SAD THING.

10:00:25AM LIKE THE BROTHER SAID, MAN, YOU HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO

10:00:28AM COME IN AND TELL YOU THE SAME THING WE'VE BEEN SAYING.

10:00:30AM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYBODY'S EYES ARE WORKING AND MINDS

10:00:32AM ARE WORKING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING BETTER.

10:00:36AM PEOPLE'S LIVES AT SPEAK.

10:00:37AM WE ARE THE COMMUNITY, NOT NO STATISTICS.

10:00:40AM WE ARE LIVING THAT POVERTY.

10:00:41AM WE HAVE RETAIL SPACE ON 22nd AND HILLSBOROUGH.

10:00:44AM ONLY WAY OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GROW IF WE GET BUSINESSES

10:00:47AM HERE THAT HAVE INVESTMENT, THAT WANT IT TO GROW.

10:00:50AM ALL MONEY GO OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

10:00:52AM WE HAVE NOTHING.

10:00:53AM WE HAVE TO GO TO BRANDON, NORTH TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, TEMPLE

10:00:56AM TERRACE TO FIND GREAT EATERY PLACES.

10:00:58AM ALL THE RETAIL SPACE ON HILLSBOROUGH AND 22nd, WE SHOULD

10:01:02AM HAVE EVERY MAJOR RESTAURANT UP THERE.

10:01:04AM APPLEBEE'S, CHICK-FIL-A, INSTEAD YOU PUT THE HIGH

10:01:11AM CHOLESTEROL RESTAURANTS.

10:01:13AM THE FRIED FOODS.

10:01:14AM NO OLIVE GARDEN.

10:01:15AM BRANDON OR TEMPLE TERRACE, OUT ON BUSCH.

10:01:19AM WE HAVE THE POWER TO DO THINGS.

10:01:21AM YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE THE MAYOR DO HER JOB AND YOU GUYS HAVE
10:01:24AM TO DO YOUR JOB.

10:01:29AM IT GOES BACK DOWN AGAIN TO THE ETHNIC.

10:01:32AM IT'S ALWAYS THE BLACKS.

10:01:35AM NONE WHITE.

10:01:37AM WHITES GET THE PASS ON EVERYTHING.

10:01:39AM STUDY SHOWED THAT THEY ARE DOING NO BAD DOWN BELOW POVERTY.

10:01:46AM ALL BLACK AND BROWN SKINNED PEOPLE.

10:01:48AM AGAIN, WE'RE DOWN HERE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING.

10:01:51AM WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU

10:01:53AM HAVE?

10:01:54AM YOU HAVE IT FROM THE ROOT AND TOUGH FROM THE TOP FROM THE

10:01:56AM STUDIES.

10:01:57AM YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DO WORK WITH.

10:01:59AM YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE STUDY.

10:02:01AM WE NEED WORK.

10:02:01AM WE NEED ACTION.

10:02:02AM WE NEED PEOPLE MOVING THEIR FEET AND NOT STANDING STILL.

10:02:06AM NO FAILURE IN PROGRESS.

10:02:07AM THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

10:02:09AM STANDING STILL, WE'LL STAY THERE.

10:02:11AM WE'LL BE HERE NEXT YEAR DOING THE SAME THING.

10:02:14AM YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE SPECIAL.

10:02:16AM TWO WORDS, FEAR AND FAITH.

10:02:19AM WHICH ONE ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE.

10:02:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:02:21AM NEXT, PLEASE.

10:02:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.

10:02:29AM GERALDINE ROGERS TUNES.

10:02:31AM I UNDERSTAND ROUNDABOUTS HAVE PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE WITH

10:02:34AM REDUCING THE NUMBER OF SERIOUS OR FATAL CRASHES.

10:02:38AM STILL PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST SAFETY ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT.

10:02:43AM AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE 34th STREET STRIP HAS A HIGH

10:02:47AM CONCENTRATION OF CHILDREN COMMUTING IN THE AREA.

10:02:50AM AND THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTIONS WILL BE IN CLOSE

10:02:53AM PROXIMITY TO EARLY HEAD START EDUCATION PROGRAMS, EARLY

10:02:58AM SCHOOLS -- EXCUSE ME, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, AND NEIGHBORHOOD

10:03:02AM PARKS.

10:03:02AM YOUNG CHILDREN ARE OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.

10:03:06AM THESE CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE INTRODUCED TO DANGEROUS TRAFFIC

10:03:10AM SITUATIONS.

10:03:11AM CONSTANTLY EXPOSED TO HIGH-RISK ACCIDENT AREAS.

10:03:19AM WHILE WALKING TO SCHOOLS OR TO PARKS.

10:03:21AM ACCORDING TO CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT

10:03:25AM PERSPECTIVE, THEY HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC CRASHES

10:03:28AM AT ROUNDABOUTS.

10:03:31AM HOWEVER, IT APPEARS INFORMATION PROVIDED ON TRAFFIC CRASHES

10:03:35AM ON 40th STREET FOR 2018 REFLECT AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER

10:03:39AM OF TRAFFIC CRASHES AT ROUNDABOUTS AT THOSE THREE

10:03:43AM INTERSECTIONS.

10:03:43AM TOTAL OF 53 TRAFFIC CRASHES IN 2018 AT INTERSECTIONS WITH
10:03:50AM ROUNDABOUTS.

10:03:51AM AT LEAST 35 CRASHES IN 2019 AT THOSE ROUNDABOUTS ON 40th

10:03:57AM STREET.

10:03:58AM I DON'T HAVE THE DATA FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF 2019.

10:04:02AM IN 2016 AND 2017, THERE WERE 50 PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES AND 12

10:04:09AM BICYCLISTS KILLED IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

10:04:11AM PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CRASHES ARE SOME OF THE MOST

10:04:14AM DANGEROUS ACCIDENTS THAT CAN OCCUR ON THE ROAD.

10:04:17AM PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLISTS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME PROTECTION OR

10:04:22AM IMPACT THAT A PERSON IN ANOTHER VEHICLE DOES.

10:04:25AM THEY ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD AT ANY GIVEN

10:04:31AM TIME AND BICYCLISTS ARE A CLOSE SECOND.

10:04:35AM AGAIN, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 94 CRASHES ON 40th STREET

10:04:38AM BETWEEN BUSCH BOULEVARD AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN 2018 AND

10:04:42AM A MINIMUM OF 84 CRASHES IN 2019.

10:04:45AM THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION

10:04:50AM DEPARTMENT PREMISE THAT ROUNDABOUTS REDUCE ACCIDENTS.

10:04:53AM I FIND IT DISTURBING THAT AN OVERWHELMING PERCENTAGE OF THE

10:04:59AM CRASHES OCCURRING ON 40th STREET ARE OCCURRING AT

10:05:03AM ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE DESIGNED INTERSECTIONS.

10:05:05AM ALSO, I FIND IT ALARMING THAT THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE

10:05:10AM 34th STREET ROUNDABOUTS DOESN'T APPEAR TO PLACE ENOUGH

10:05:14AM EMPHASIS ON CHILD SAFETY.

10:05:17AM HOW ARE CHILDREN GOING TO SAFELY CROSS INTERSECTIONS WITH

10:05:21AM ROUNDABOUTS TO GET TO THEIR DESTINATIONS?
10:05:24AM AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU TALK ABOUT DATA.

10:05:28AM YOU HAVE ALL THE DATA AVAILABLE TO YOU TO SHOW THAT THERE IS

10:05:32AM A CONTRADICTION IN THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED.

10:05:36AM I JUST ASK YOU TO AT LEAST PROVIDE THE EFFORT TO GET THE

10:05:41AM DATA SO YOU CAN MAKE WISE DECISIONS.

10:05:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:05:43AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:05:44AM NEXT, PLEASE.

10:05:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.

10:05:50AM CONNIE BURTON.

10:05:52AM I WANT TO APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION ON THE STATE OF

10:05:57AM REGION REPORT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS A LAY PERSON

10:06:00AM UNITED TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN THAT BE IN 2020?

10:06:06AM HOW DO ALL THE INDICATORS, AS YOU TALK ABOUT TAMPA BEING THE

10:06:09AM NEXT GREAT CITY, A PROGRESSIVE CITY WITH THE NEW MAYOR, A

10:06:14AM NEW COUNCIL BOARD, AND WE ARE STILL IN THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY

10:06:20AM MOVING AT A SNAIL'S PACE.

10:06:24AM I'M JUST HOPING FOR YOUR SAKE, NOT FOR MINE, BECAUSE IT'S

10:06:30AM CLEAR.

10:06:31AM ORLANDO -- COUNCILMAN GUDES, HE SAYS THOSE WHO WANT TO BE

10:06:36AM CONTRIBUTORS AND THOSE WHO ARE COMMITTED.

10:06:40AM HE READ IT AGAINST AN ANALYSIS OF HAM AND CHEESE OMELET.

10:06:45AM HOW COMMITTED ARE YOU?

10:06:47AM YOU COULD BE THE EGG AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING, DO A

10:06:53AM LITTLE REPORT, COME OUT TO THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND SAY WE
10:06:56AM ARE TRYING, WE ARE WORKING, YOU CAN BE THE MILK TO THE EGG.

10:06:59AM BUT ARE YOU COMMITTED TO SEEING REAL CHANGE AND BEING THAT

10:07:03AM HAM WHERE YOU GIVE IT ALL?

10:07:06AM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING.

10:07:07AM GO BACK 60 YEARS AND THEN START BACK WHAT WAS ONCE CENTRAL

10:07:12AM AVENUE AND HOW WE LOST ALL OF THAT.

10:07:14AM AND THEN FAST-FORWARD TO HOW WE LOST RIVERFRONT PARK AND NOW

10:07:19AM IS THIS WONDERFUL 35 MILLION, A FACADE OUT THERE, NOT FOR

10:07:25AM AFRICAN PEOPLE.

10:07:26AM AND THEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE INDICATORS THAT SAY POVERTY.

10:07:32AM WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING, THE SOARING PRICES OF HOUSING EVEN IN

10:07:36AM OUR COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU HAVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THOSE

10:07:39AM DEVELOPERS THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSES THAT WE CAN'T EVEN

10:07:41AM AFFORD.

10:07:43AM SPECTATORS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

10:07:47AM I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WHILE WE COME DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK AND

10:07:52AM YOU THINK AND YOU ALL MIGHT THINK WELL THEY ARE JUST BLOWING

10:07:55AM OFF STEAM, WE PLAN ON CHANGING THE CONDITION OF OUR

10:07:57AM COMMUNITY.

10:07:58AM THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

10:07:59AM IF FIVE OF YOU ALL HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE AND STRENGTH THAT

10:08:03AM WHEN YOU SEE AN AGENDA THAT DO NOT REFLECT TO LIFTING THE

10:08:08AM AFRICAN COMMUNITY, SEND IT BACK TO THE MAYOR.

10:08:13AM SEND IT BACK TO HER.

10:08:14AM I DON'T WANT TO HEAR NO MORE THIS IS A STRONG ARM OF
10:08:17AM GOVERNMENT AND THE MAYOR GOT ALL POWER.

10:08:19AM YOU KNOW WHY I KNOW THAT IS A LIE?

10:08:22AM BECAUSE SHE HAS TO COME TO US FOR A VOTE.

10:08:25AM AND COMING TO US FOR A VOTE, MOVING HENCEFORWARD FOR

10:08:29AM EVERYBODY IS ACCOUNTABILITY.

10:08:31AM THANK YOU.

10:08:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:08:35AM NEXT, PLEASE.

10:08:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.

10:08:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, BISHOP, FOR ONE SECOND, IS ANYONE

10:08:42AM ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:08:43AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:08:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.

10:08:46AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.

10:08:48AM I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER.

10:08:51AM POVERTY IS BIG BUSINESS.

10:08:52AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET CLEAR.

10:08:54AM NOBODY IS REALLY INTERESTED IN MOVING THE NEEDLE.

10:08:57AM YOU ASK WHY WE'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION, PEOPLE HAVING

10:09:00AM THREE, FOUR JOBS, IT'S BECAUSE THE GOALPOSTS KEEP BEING

10:09:04AM MOVED.

10:09:05AM IF YOU KEEP RAISING THE HOUSING STANDARDS, THE COST OF

10:09:08AM HOUSING, A PERSON CAN NEVER AFFORD IT.

10:09:11AM WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON.

10:09:13AM WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
10:09:14AM NOBODY IS REALLY TRYING TO SEE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN JACKSON

10:09:19AM HEIGHT, BELMONT HEIGHTS TRYING TO GET FROM PLACE TO PLACE.

10:09:22AM THERE IS A NEWS ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT ABOUT MEMORIAL PARK

10:09:26AM CEMETERY, THAT THE OWNER HAS DIED AND THEY WANT TO

10:09:30AM RELINQUISH THE PARK.

10:09:32AM THE CITY IS SAYING, HEY, THAT'S NOT OUR ISSUE, BUT IT IS IN

10:09:35AM THE CRA.

10:09:36AM SO THERE IS MONEY IN THE CRA, AND THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING

10:09:41AM DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT PARK, THE CEMETERY DO NOT BECOME

10:09:45AM ANOTHER ZION CEMETERY.

10:09:48AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

10:09:52AM WE CAN PUT THE EFFORT TOGETHER.

10:09:54AM THE OTHER THING IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAIR OAKS.

10:09:57AM NOW, I HEARD WITH THE STUDY THEY TALK ABOUT CHILDREN.

10:10:01AM BUT IF OUR CHILDREN CAN'T HAVE THE MODERN TECHNOLOGY, CAN'T

10:10:05AM SEE AND HAVE THE SAME THING THAT OTHER PARTS OF THIS CITY

10:10:09AM HAVE, HOW CAN OUR CHILDREN GROW TO BECOME PRODUCTIVE

10:10:12AM CITIZENS?

10:10:13AM WE KEEP WANTING TO PUT BAND-AIDS ON PROBLEMS THAT SHOULD NOT

10:10:18AM BE.

10:10:18AM TONIGHT AT 7 P.M., I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ALL CARE

10:10:22AM ENOUGH TO COME AND HIT A CITIZEN AT FAIR OAKS TONIGHT, BUT

10:10:26AM AT 7 P.M., YOU ALL SHOULD BE THERE TO HEAR WHAT THE CITIZENS

10:10:32AM ARE SAYING.

10:10:32AM WE'RE ALL TAXPAYERS.
10:10:34AM NOBODY IS UP HERE BEGGING FOR ANYTHING.

10:10:36AM WE'RE ASKING FOR JUST DO.

10:10:39AM SIMPLE AS THAT.

10:10:39AM WE PAID TAXES.

10:10:42AM WE WANT OUR PARTS OF TOWN TO LOOK LIKE DAVIS ISLAND, SOUTH

10:10:46AM TAMPA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

10:10:48AM SO WE'RE ASKING THAT FAIR OAKS BE FAST TRACKED, THAT IT BE

10:10:54AM DEMOLISHED, THAT IT BE REBUILT SO THAT CHILDREN CAN HAVE A

10:10:57AM SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

10:10:59AM YOU ALL DON'T ATTEND THE FUNERALS I ATTEND.

10:11:02AM YOU DON'T PREACH THE FUNERALS THAT I DO THAT ARE OUT IN THAT

10:11:05AM AREA BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE BEING SHOT AND KILLED, AND THEN

10:11:08AM EVERYBODY SAY, OH, WHAT A SHAME.

10:11:10AM BUT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

10:11:13AM THAT STUDY CAME HERE.

10:11:15AM IT HAS SAID WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING OVER AND OVER AND OVER,

10:11:20AM NOW IT'S LIKE, WHOA, IT'S FOR REAL.

10:11:23AM IT'S ALWAYS BEEN REAL.

10:11:24AM WE'VE BEEN TELLING IT.

10:11:25AM IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE NOT WHITE, AND NOW MAYBE THAT THE WHITE

10:11:29AM MEN HAVE COME BEFORE YOU AND SAID IT, MAYBE NOW PEOPLE WILL

10:11:33AM SAY, MHMM, THEY BEEN ON TO SOMETHING ALL THE TIME.

10:11:37AM BUT AT THIS POINT, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL DO TO MAKE A

10:11:40AM DIFFERENCE?

10:11:41AM AND I HAVE A LITTLE CONFIDENCE IN YOU ALL.
10:11:44AM I FEEL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND WE'RE

10:11:46AM GOING TO GET THINGS DONE.

10:11:47AM THANK YOU.

10:11:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:11:49AM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:11:52AM YES, SIR.

10:11:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 4, I DID PREPARE THE

10:11:55AM CORRECTED RESOLUTION IF YOU COULD MOVE THE RULES, PLEASE.

10:11:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT?

10:11:59AM COUNCILMAN CITRO MOTION.

10:12:00AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:12:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:12:03AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:12:03AM THANK YOU, SIR.

10:12:04AM ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF

10:12:08AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?

10:12:11AM THERE BEING APPARENTLY NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO COMMITTEE

10:12:13AM REPORTS, CONSENT AGENDA.

10:12:14AM LET'S MOVE TO NUMBER 7.

10:12:15AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF FOR NUMBER 7?

10:12:18AM NO ONE FROM STAFF.

10:12:20AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON NUMBER 7?

10:12:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THERE IS A REQUEST

10:12:28AM FOR A CONTINUANCE, IS THAT CORRECT?

10:12:31AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:12:32AM I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 20th.

10:12:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:12:36AM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT?

10:12:38AM OKAY, COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:12:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:12:42AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:12:42AM LET'S MOVE NOW TO NUMBER 8.

10:12:46AM ANYONE HERE FOR NUMBER 8?

10:12:48AM >> YES.

10:12:49AM GOOD MORNING, JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

10:12:52AM I AM HERE AND DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, MIKE

10:12:55AM CHUCRAN IS HERE REGARDING ITEM 8 ON THE AGENDA.

10:12:59AM ITEM 8 IS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE THAT AMENDS SECTION

10:13:03AM 2-280 OF THE CITY CODE TO INCREASE THE THRESHOLD AMOUNT FOR

10:13:09AM WHICH WORK ORDERS ARE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND WORK

10:13:12AM ORDERS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS DEFINED IN THE

10:13:14AM CONSULTANT COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION ACT.

10:13:16AM MIKE CHUCRAN IS HERE TO OFFER A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE

10:13:20AM ITEM.

10:13:22AM THANK YOU.

10:13:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:13:26AM MIKE CHUCRAN, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.

10:13:28AM WE ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND SECTION 2-280 WHICH WAS

10:13:32AM ESTABLISHED IN 1995.

10:13:34AM THIS IS IN ORDER TO GAIN MORE EFFICIENCIES WITHIN THE
10:13:37AM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT AND ALSO TO STREAMLINE

10:13:39AM THE WORK ORDER PROCESSES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

10:13:42AM AND WITH THE RECENT APPROVAL OF THE PIPES PROGRAM AND ALSO

10:13:45AM THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION IS

10:13:49AM ANTICIPATING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN WORKLOAD FOR THE

10:13:53AM DEPARTMENT.

10:13:54AM THAT'S DRIVEN BY THOSE PROGRAMS.

10:13:56AM WE'RE LOOKING TO AMEND SECTION 280 WHICH WOULD REDUCE STAFF

10:14:01AM TIME AND ALLOW MORE EFFICIENT OPERATIONS.

10:14:03AM FOR EXAMPLE, CALENDAR YEAR 2019, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION

10:14:06AM EXECUTED 80 WORK ORDERS.

10:14:08AM OF THOSE 80 WORK ORDERS, 46 OF THOSE FELL WITHIN THE CURRENT

10:14:12AM THRESHOLD OF SECTION 2-280.

10:14:14AM THAT REQUIRED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.

10:14:16AM THAT'S 58% OF ALL THE TOTAL WORK ORDERS.

10:14:20AM THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL PROCESS REQUIRES US TO INPUT INTO

10:14:24AM THE SIRE SYSTEM SO THEY CAN BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

10:14:28AM SUBSEQUENT CITY -- AND AFTER SUBSEQUENT CITY COUNCIL

10:14:31AM APPROVAL, THERE IS A WAIT TIME FOR RELEASE OF THOSE

10:14:34AM RESOLUTIONS.

10:14:35AM SO THIS PROCESS ADDS APPROXIMATELY 44 DAYS TO THE WORK ORDER

10:14:40AM PROCESS.

10:14:41AM SO, THEREFORE, BY AMENDING SECTION 2-280, WE'RE LOOKING TO

10:14:46AM INCREASE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION'S EFFICIENCY AND

10:14:50AM EFFECTIVENESS IN SUPPORTING THE USER DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO TO
10:14:53AM ENSURE THAT THE USER DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO

10:14:55AM UTILIZE THE CONSULTANT SERVICES MORE RAPIDLY.

10:14:59AM ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE AGREEABLE TO ESTABLISH THE THRESHOLD AT

10:15:02AM $100,000 TO EFFECTUATE AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY JUSTIN

10:15:07AM VASKE HAS DRAFTED A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE, WHICH HE CAN

10:15:11AM PRESENT TO COUNCIL IMMEDIATELY.

10:15:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:15:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:15:17AM JUSTIN, THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

10:15:19AM BASICALLY, THE PURCHASING CONTRACTS WE'VE ALREADY DELEGATED

10:15:26AM TO THE $100,000 AMOUNT, AND STAFF, THROUGH THE CONTRACTS

10:15:31AM ADMINISTRATION FOLKS, ARE ASKING US TO BRING THEM UP FROM

10:15:35AM 50,000 TO 100,000, WHICH I THINK IS FAIR AND FINE.

10:15:38AM SO I'LL MOVE THE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, THE SUBSTITUTE

10:15:43AM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.

10:15:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:15:45AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:15:47AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN --

10:15:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THIS SOMETHING I HAVE TO READ?

10:15:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, READ THE TITLE.

10:15:53AM [INAUDIBLE]

10:15:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL READ THE TITLE.

10:15:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT SUBSTITUTE.

10:15:59AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:16:00AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:16:01AM GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:16:03AM SHOULD HE READ IT NOW?

10:16:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]

10:16:07AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,

10:16:09AM FLORIDA, AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 2,

10:16:12AM ADMINISTRATION, ARTICLE V, DIVISION III, PURCHASES AND

10:16:16AM CONTRACTS, SECTION 2-280; SAID AMENDMENT BEING NECESSARY TO

10:16:20AM INCREASE THE THRESHOLD AMOUNT FOR WHICH WORK ORDERS ARE

10:16:22AM APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND PROVIDING THAT SAID WORK ORDERS

10:16:25AM ARE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS DEFINED IN SECTION 287.055,

10:16:31AM FLORIDA STATUTES; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN

10:16:35AM CONFLICT; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:16:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:16:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,

10:16:41AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:16:42AM ANY IN FAVOR?

10:16:45AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:16:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, HAND IN HAND WITH THIS

10:16:48AM DELEGATION AND I KNOW YOU LIKE MOTIONS AT THE END, BUT I'M

10:16:50AM GOING TO ASK FOR A LITTLE LEEWAY ON IT.

10:16:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: ACTING CHAIR MANISCALCO --

10:16:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GRANT THAT TO YOU.

10:16:58AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, YOUR HIGHNESS.

10:17:01AM ANYWAY, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE -- LET ME BACK UP.

10:17:06AM WHY ARE WE HERE?
10:17:08AM WHY IS COUNCIL HERE?

10:17:09AM WE ARE HERE AS AN OVERSIGHT TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE

10:17:12AM WORK HAND IN HAND WITH YOU ON MANY, MANY ISSUES.

10:17:15AM WHEN WE SEE THESE CONTRACTS, AND NOW IT WILL BE ANYTHING

10:17:18AM OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT AND

10:17:21AM WE SCRUTINIZE ARE THE WMBE ISSUES, THE SOLE-SOURCE ISSUES.

10:17:26AM THOSE ARE THE DAY-TO-DAY THINGS THAT YOU HEAR FROM US.

10:17:29AM I THINK THOSE ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

10:17:32AM I THINK THAT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT WE PLAY ON

10:17:34AM BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE ARE THE EYES AND THE EARS

10:17:37AM OF THE COMMUNITY.

10:17:38AM AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT NOT DELEGATING TOO

10:17:42AM MUCH, BUT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND BECAUSE

10:17:46AM IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN PURCHASING OVER THE

10:17:48AM YEARS.

10:17:49AM WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO SEE -- I KNOW THAT YOU

10:17:54AM GUYS HAVE OFFERED AND I APPRECIATE IT, TO GIVE US A LIST,

10:17:58AM THE WAY THAT PURCHASING DOES, OF THESE ARE THE HUNDRED

10:18:01AM THOUSAND DOLLAR OR LESS CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE

10:18:04AM LAST, QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING.

10:18:07AM GIVE US THAT LIST, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE US TO SEE NEXT TO

10:18:12AM THAT WHAT THE WMBE COMPONENT IS AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT IT

10:18:16AM IS A SOLE SOURCE, SINGLE SOURCE, SOLE SOURCE, THAT SORT OF

10:18:21AM THING, IF THERE ARE ANY UNUSUAL EXCEPTIONS OR CCNA

10:18:25AM COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION, WHATEVER, MAKE A COLUMN THAT WOULD
10:18:30AM TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT, SO I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO

10:18:34AM DO IT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.

10:18:35AM I THINK YOU GET THE IDEA.

10:18:36AM I THINK WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THAT.

10:18:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:18:42AM NO MOTION.

10:18:44AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]

10:18:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:18:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:18:49AM >> THANK YOU.

10:18:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS,

10:18:54AM CONSENT AGENDA.

10:18:54AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY

10:18:57AM COMMITTEE.

10:18:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:18:59AM I MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 9 THROUGH 14.

10:19:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:19:05AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:19:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:19:08AM ALL RIGHT.

10:19:08AM NEXT UP WE HAVE PARKS, REC, AND CULTURAL COMMITTEE WITH

10:19:11AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:19:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 25.

10:19:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:19:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES,
10:19:21AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:19:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:19:24AM ALL RIGHT.

10:19:24AM NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE WITH COUNCILMAN

10:19:26AM DINGFELDER.

10:19:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I'LL MOVE ITEMS 26

10:19:30AM THROUGH 32.

10:19:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.

10:19:33AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:19:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:19:36AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:19:37AM NOW WE GO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

10:19:39AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS NOT HERE, SO IT GOES TO COUNCILMAN

10:19:41AM CITRO AS VICE-CHAIR.

10:19:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS 33 THROUGH 37.

10:19:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:19:48AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:19:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:19:51AM ALL RIGHT.

10:19:51AM NEXT UP.

10:19:53AM WE HAVE BUILDING, ZONING AND PRESERVATION WITH COUNCILMAN

10:19:57AM CARLSON.

10:19:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE ITEMS 38 THROUGH 47.

10:20:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE SUBSTITUTES ON THAT 38 AND

10:20:04AM 40.
10:20:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDING THE SUBSTITUTES.

10:20:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THE CLERK CAN CONFIRM SO

10:20:11AM IT'S CLEAR, A SUBSTITUTE ON 38, A SUBSTITUTE ON 40.

10:20:15AM ON YOUR ADDENDUM, A SUBSTITUTE ON 41.

10:20:19AM AND THEN THERE'S 45.

10:20:21AM ARE THERE ANY OTHERS?

10:20:24AM THAT'S IT.

10:20:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION INCLUDING SUBSTITUTION FOR 38, 41, 40

10:20:32AM AND 45.

10:20:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:20:34AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:20:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:20:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:20:40AM I CAN'T DO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE SO WE GIVE IT TO

10:20:43AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, VICE-CHAIR.

10:20:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE 48 THROUGH 51.

10:20:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:20:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:20:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:20:54AM ALL RIGHT.

10:20:54AM NOW WE HAVE ITEMS 52 THROUGH 56, WHICH ARE BEING SET FOR

10:20:59AM PUBLIC HEARINGS.

10:20:59AM CAN I GET A MOTION ON THOSE?

10:21:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO OPEN.

10:21:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 52 THROUGH 56 MOVE TO SET FOR PUBLIC
10:21:13AM HEARING PURSUANT TO THE AGENDA.

10:21:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:21:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

10:21:18AM DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:21:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:21:21AM WE ARE AT 10:21.

10:21:24AM WE CAN'T OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO LET'S GO TO --

10:21:29AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A SECOND THOUGHT

10:21:33AM ABOUT WHAT I SAID BEFORE THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO A MOTION.

10:21:35AM I ACTUALLY DO WANT TO DO A MOTION, THAT WAY NO MATTER WHAT

10:21:40AM ADMINISTRATION IS HERE AND NO MATTER WHAT COUNCIL IS HERE,

10:21:43AM IT WILL BE PERPETUALLY IN PLACE.

10:21:46AM AS RELATED TO ITEM 8, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE

10:21:53AM ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE A QUARTERLY REPORT OF CONTRACTS THAT

10:22:02AM ARE $100,000 OR LESS AND TO PROVIDE THAT QUARTERLY REPORT TO

10:22:10AM CITY COUNCIL ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, BUT ALSO TO INCLUDE THE

10:22:14AM WMBE PERCENTAGE AS WELL AS TO IDENTIFY ANY UNUSUAL

10:22:20AM PURCHASING SITUATIONS SUCH AS SINGLE-SOURCE, SOLE-SOURCE,

10:22:25AM ET CETERA.

10:22:27AM AND ALSO, WITH THAT MOTION, TO MODIFY THE CURRENT QUARTERLY

10:22:31AM REPORT AS RELATED TO PURCHASING, BECAUSE THEY DO GIVE US A

10:22:34AM QUARTERLY REPORT FOR $100,000, BUT TO MODIFY THEIR

10:22:38AM PURCHASING REPORT TO ALSO INCLUDE ANY WMBE OR UNUSUAL ITEMS.

10:22:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID WE GET THAT MOTION DOWN?

10:22:48AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:22:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:22:50AM AGAIN, PUBLIC HEARINGS 10:30.

10:22:53AM IT IS NOT 10:30.

10:22:55AM WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS, IF WE CAN START WITH ITEM NUMBER

10:22:58AM 63.

10:23:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THOSE WERE DURING

10:23:08AM -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL.

10:23:11AM THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT I SEE STAFF HERE.

10:23:14AM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT HERE TO

10:23:18AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS ITEM.

10:23:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:23:21AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:23:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ERIC -- OH, NO, MY QUESTION WAS ON 64 AND

10:23:28AM I TALKED TO SOME OF YOUR STAFF.

10:23:31AM TELL US ABOUT 63.

10:23:34AM IT'S A BIG-TICKET ITEM.

10:23:35AM $3 MILLION.

10:23:37AM IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COST OR ARE WE COMING IN AT THE SAME

10:23:41AM PRICE?

10:23:42AM >>ERIC WEISS: 17% DECREASE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.

10:23:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU NEED TO NEGOTIATE ALL OF OUR RENEWALS

10:23:47AM CITYWIDE.

10:23:48AM >>ERIC WEISS: IT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED FROM THE

10:23:51AM MANUFACTURER.

10:23:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, GREAT.
10:23:53AM I MOVE 63.

10:23:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MOVING THE

10:23:57AM RESOLUTION FOR 63.

10:23:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: RELATED QUESTION.

10:24:02AM I KNOW THIS IS NOT EXACTLY YOUR AREA, BUT I'M TOLD BY WATER

10:24:06AM EXPERTS THAT THE CLOUDINESS THAT'S CAUSED BY MIXING THE

10:24:10AM TAMPA WATER WITH THE TAMPA BAY WATER IS A pH IMBALANCE AND

10:24:13AM THERE'S SOME KIND OF SUBSTANCE, CAUSTIC -- I'M NOT A

10:24:17AM SCIENTIST, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE SAME SUBSTANCE.

10:24:19AM I'M TOLD FOR MAYBE $200,000 EXTRA A YEAR IN TREATING OUR

10:24:23AM POTABLE WATER SUPPLY THAT WE COULD SOLVE THIS CLOUDINESS

10:24:28AM PROBLEM?

10:24:28AM SORRY, I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR AREA.

10:24:31AM >>ERIC WEISS: I DON'T.

10:24:32AM I WOULD DEFER TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

10:24:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 63 IS PENDING.

10:24:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN

10:24:39AM DINGFELDER.

10:24:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:24:45AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:24:46AM I WAS OUTSIDE.

10:24:49AM WHAT'S THE MOTION?

10:24:51AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO APPROVE 63.

10:24:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.

10:24:54AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:55AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:24:56AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 64.

10:25:01AM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, HERE TO

10:25:05AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS ITEM.

10:25:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I TALKED TO YOUR STAFF FOLKS, THE OTHER

10:25:09AM ERIC, ET CETERA, YESTERDAY ON THIS ITEM 64.

10:25:13AM AGAIN, IT'S A VERY LARGE-TICKET ITEM.

10:25:15AM I GUESS WE DO IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THE $6 MILLION.

10:25:19AM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DID SOME TESTING WITH SOME OF THE OTHER

10:25:21AM VENDORS AND THEY DIDN'T PASS THE TEST.

10:25:23AM SO, THEREFORE, IT FELL -- WE END UP WITH A SINGLE BIDDER,

10:25:28AM SINGLE RESPONSIVE BIDDER SITUATION.

10:25:31AM >>ERIC WEISS: YEAH, WHAT THIS CHEMICAL DOES IS HELP TAKE THE

10:25:34AM WATER OUT OF THE BIOSOLIDS BEFORE IT GOES FOR LAND

10:25:37AM APPLICATION.

10:25:37AM YOU WANT TO TAKE THE WATER OUT SO YOU DON'T TRUCK IT AND

10:25:41AM THEY'LL ACCEPT IT AT THE LAND APPLICATION SITE.

10:25:44AM SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CHEMICAL.

10:25:46AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT WORKS.

10:25:48AM SO WE HAVE THEM COME HAVE AN EIGHT-HOUR DAY WHERE THEY CAN

10:25:52AM COME WITH THEIR PRODUCT INTO THE LAB AND TEST IT ON OUR

10:25:55AM BIOSOLIDS, OUR SLUDGE.

10:25:58AM THREE OF THEM CAME.

10:25:59AM ONLY ONE HAD PASSED.

10:26:01AM WE THEN PUT THAT OUT TO BID.
10:26:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS GROSS PRICE OF

10:26:08AM 6,340,000 IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE

10:26:12AM PAST?

10:26:13AM >>ERIC WEISS: YEAH, WE'RE ONLY DOING ABOUT 1.2 MILLION A

10:26:16AM YEAR, BUT THERE IS THEORETICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET A LOT

10:26:20AM OF FLOW, THIS YEAR, A REALLY RAINY YEAR, IT COULD BE HIGHER.

10:26:25AM WE'RE COVERING OUR BASE IN CASE WE DO GET THOSE HIGH FLOWS.

10:26:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WHAT THEY TOLD ME WAS THAT

10:26:30AM BECAUSE IT'S SO GOOD AT REMOVING WATER, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE

10:26:33AM MONEY ON THE BACK END.

10:26:35AM >>ERIC WEISS: CORRECT.

10:26:35AM BECAUSE YOU HAVE LESS TRUCKING COST.

10:26:37AM TRUCKING COST IS BASED ON THE VOLUME THAT YOU TAKE.

10:26:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE ITEM 64.

10:26:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:26:44AM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:26:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:26:47AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:26:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:26:50AM NEXT WE HAVE 65.

10:26:52AM ANYONE HERE FOR 65?

10:26:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE ITEM 65.

10:26:58AM I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

10:27:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:27:02AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:27:05AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:27:05AM 66, MR. DIAL.

10:27:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST IN REGARD TO 65, MR. CHAIR.

10:27:12AM I KNOW -- PROBABLY THE REST OF COUNCIL PERHAPS BEEN OUT

10:27:18AM THERE AT THE CareATC CENTER ON HIMES OR ELSEWHERE, YOU

10:27:25AM KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM.

10:27:27AM IT SORT OF GOES BACK TO THE MUTUAL AID SOCIETIES WHERE WE

10:27:30AM HAVE AN ORGANIZATION.

10:27:31AM WE SORT OF DO PROACTIVE PREVENTIVE HEALTH CARE ON A SMALL

10:27:37AM LEVEL, BUT HOPEFULLY IT KEEPS OUR COSTS DOWN IN THE BIGGER

10:27:41AM PICTURE.

10:27:41AM SO ANYWAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY TWEAKED THAT UP AND ADDED AN

10:27:47AM ADDITIONAL PERSON AT THAT FACILITY, SO THAT'S WHY THE PRICE

10:27:50AM IS ADJUSTED.

10:27:51AM BUT I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE.

10:27:53AM I'M GLAD WE APPROVED 65.

10:27:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:27:56AM MR. DIAL.

10:27:56AM >>PAUL DIAL: GOOD MORNING.

10:27:58AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO THE FOREST HILLS PROJECT SUMMARY AND

10:28:01AM THE STATUS OF THAT PROJECT.

10:28:03AM THIS IS REALLY A JOINT PROJECT WITH STORMWATER MANAGEMENT

10:28:07AM WHERE THERE WOULD BE A REMOVING OF MATERIAL FROM THE POND

10:28:11AM THAT IS AT THE LOCATION THERE.
10:28:13AM FILL GOING IN AS WELL.

10:28:14AM AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT RAISES THE ELEVATION AT THE

10:28:17AM LOCATION.

10:28:18AM SO THE AMENITIES THAT ARE THERE NOW, BASKETBALL COURTS,

10:28:22AM RACQUETBALL, THOSE FACILITIES HAVE TO BE IN ESSENCE RAZED,

10:28:27AM REMOVED AND RAZED DURING THE PROJECT TO BE PART OF THIS FOR

10:28:32AM FLOOD CONTROL AND FOR IMPROVEMENTS THERE.

10:28:34AM UNFORTUNATELY, THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, WHEN THE BIDS

10:28:38AM CAME IN, THERE AREN'T SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO COMPLETE IT AT

10:28:42AM THIS TIME.

10:28:42AM SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THERE ARE A FEW OPTIONS OF THE

10:28:47AM PROJECT BEING REBID AGAIN, AND IT HAS BEEN BID I BELIEVE A

10:28:50AM COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY WITH THIS.

10:28:54AM THE OTHER OPTION, THOUGH, AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE MASTER

10:28:56AM PLAN PROCESS, WE'LL BE WORKING IN THIS YEAR, WE CAN TAKE A

10:28:59AM LOOK AT THAT AS WELL AGAIN AND MAKE SURE OF ANY OF THE

10:29:04AM IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND THE PUBLIC PROCESSES OR ANY OTHER

10:29:06AM TWEAKS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE AT THE TIME DURING THE MASTER

10:29:09AM PLAN PROCESS, BUT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR REBIDDING THAT

10:29:12AM OR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO

10:29:14AM DO THAT AND REBID THE PROJECT.

10:29:16AM BUT AT THIS TIME, THE BIDS HAVE EXPIRED WITH THE PROJECT,

10:29:21AM AND CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE -- WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MASTER

10:29:24AM PLAN PROCESS TO REEVALUATE IT AT THIS TIME.

10:29:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:29:30AM ANYTHING ELSE?

10:29:31AM >>PAUL DIAL: THAT'S IT.

10:29:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. DIAL.

10:29:33AM IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN, JUST REAL QUICK BEFORE THAT, IF I MAY,

10:29:37AM I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN

10:29:40AM IN THE BUDGET FOR A WHILE.

10:29:42AM I KNOW LONG BEFORE YOU CAME IN.

10:29:44AM THIS THING WAS PROBABLY PASSED WHEN SCOTT PAINE WAS DISTRICT

10:29:47AM 7 CITY COUNCILMAN.

10:29:49AM THAT'S A JOKE, BUT REALLY BACK IN THE DAY, SO TO SPEAK.

10:29:52AM IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

10:29:53AM THIS THING CONTINUES TO BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.

10:29:55AM I KNOW THERE ARE STORMWATER CHALLENGES THAT HAVE DELAYED

10:29:59AM THIS.

10:29:59AM MY UNDERSTANDING WAS -- PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG --

10:30:02AM WITH THE FUNDS YOU HAVE IN THERE NOW, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE

10:30:05AM THE STORMWATER CHALLENGES AND ADDRESS THOSE, THAT WOULDN'T

10:30:08AM LEAVE ANY FUNDS LEFT OVER FOR THE ACTUAL REC OR PARK

10:30:13AM IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT?

10:30:14AM >>PAUL DIAL: THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, CORRECT, WE HAVE A

10:30:17AM DEFICIT IN THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

10:30:19AM IN ESSENCE, YOU WOULD BE LOSING THE AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE

10:30:21AM NOW BECAUSE OF THE GRADING AND ELEVATION CHANGE.

10:30:24AM AND YOU WOULD HAVE NONE OF THOSE FACILITIES TO COME BACK TO

10:30:27AM THE SITE.
10:30:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: I REALLY SINCERELY -- LET ME ASK YOU, WITH THE

10:30:33AM FUNDS THAT WERE APPROPRIATED IN THIS MOST RECENT BUDGET,

10:30:36AM WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO MAKE THE

10:30:39AM KIND OF INVESTMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS PROMISED YEARS AGO

10:30:43AM AND TAKE CARE OF THE STORMWATER NEEDS THAT WEREN'T

10:30:45AM FORESEEABLE WHEN WE PASSED THIS?

10:30:47AM >>PAUL DIAL: WELL, ANYTIME YOU BID A PROJECT, YOU HAVE A NEW

10:30:51AM NUMBER THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS POINT.

10:30:53AM SO TO SAY WHAT IT WOULD BE UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THAT BIDDING

10:30:57AM PROCESS, WE WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT WE KNOW WITH THE PLANNING IN

10:31:02AM PLACE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE TO DO THAT.

10:31:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, YOURSELF,

10:31:07AM OBVIOUSLY, CHIEF BENNETT, AMONG OTHERS, IN TRYING TO MAKE

10:31:10AM SURE THAT THIS IS FULLY FUNDED WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE

10:31:13AM NOW HAVE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

10:31:15AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY, I THINK THREE YEARS AGO,

10:31:17AM TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD OUR FIRST COMMUNITY

10:31:21AM MEETING ON THIS IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF ITEMS WERE GOING TO

10:31:24AM BE INCLUDED IN THE REC CENTER IMPROVEMENTS.

10:31:26AM HERE WE ARE THREE YEARS LATER AND STILL NOTHING.

10:31:28AM AGAIN, STORMWATER ISSUES NOT FORESEEABLE, BUT WHEN I GO AND

10:31:33AM TALK TO MY GOOD FRIENDS AT FOREST HILLS OUT THERE, IT'S

10:31:36AM DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO SWALLOW, SO TO SPEAK, INCLUDING THEN

10:31:39AM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING

10:31:41AM TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ROAD REPAVING,
10:31:45AM THAT ALSO HAS BEEN DELAYED.

10:31:46AM FOREST HILLS IS HAVING THE WORST LUCK IN THE WORLD WHENEVER

10:31:49AM IT COMES TO GETTING THE PROJECTS THROUGH.

10:31:50AM I REALLY HOPE, MR. DIAL, THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THIS

10:31:53AM THING CAN BE FULLY FUNDED SO THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE OF FOREST

10:31:57AM HILLS HAVE THEIR IMPROVEMENTS.

10:32:01AM THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS REALLY A WORKING COMMUNITY.

10:32:03AM IT IS A MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS, BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITY

10:32:06AM WHERE PEOPLE WORK HARD.

10:32:08AM THEY SEND THEIR KIDS TO THE REC CENTER, AND THEY WANT TO SEE

10:32:10AM THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THAT REC CENTER HAS REALLY,

10:32:13AM REALLY FALLEN BEHIND.

10:32:14AM I'M HOPEFUL WE CAN GET IT FUNDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

10:32:17AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:32:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION,

10:32:22AM MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS.

10:32:25AM THE REC CENTER VERSUS THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THERE.

10:32:28AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED ON AT FIRST.

10:32:31AM NOW I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

10:32:33AM WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE RECREATION CENTERS.

10:32:37AM THAT IS A TOP ITEM THIS YEAR.

10:32:39AM I THINK IN THE UPCOMING YEAR WITH THIS MASTER PLAN, THAT WE

10:32:42AM MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING MONEY ASIDE TO UPGRADE THE PARKS AND

10:32:45AM RECREATION.

10:32:46AM IT IS A BIG THING.
10:32:47AM WE'RE UPGRADING PIPES NOW, AND WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT DOING

10:32:51AM SOMETHING TO WHERE WE UPGRADE TO WHERE PEOPLE WORK AND PLAY

10:32:55AM AT IN THE PARKS.

10:32:55AM YOUR SLOGAN, IT ALL STARTS IN THE PARK.

10:32:58AM WELL, IF IT STARTS IN THE PARK, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE PUT

10:33:00AM THE MONEY TO THE PARKS.

10:33:01AM THANK YOU, SIR.

10:33:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:33:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE YOU'RE HERE, I SPOKE TO THE SOUTH

10:33:06AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGARDING THE

10:33:09AM DOCKS AT RIVERCREST.

10:33:10AM I KNOW WE APPROVED FUNDING IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, LOWRY PARK

10:33:13AM AND WHATNOT, BUT IS THERE A TIMETABLE ON ANYTHING, WHEN

10:33:17AM EITHER THEY WILL BE DEMOLISHED, ANYTHING AT ALL?

10:33:22AM >>PAUL DIAL: UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION'S GUIDANCE, WE ARE

10:33:24AM MOVING FORWARD THAT WILL BE HAPPENING PROBABLY THE NEXT FEW

10:33:28AM MONTHS, THAT THEY WILL BE REMOVED, THE ONES THAT ARE ON-SITE

10:33:32AM THERE AND THE FENCING AND ALL THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE

10:33:36AM THOSE.

10:33:36AM WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE FUNDING WE HAVE LEFT AFTER A COUPLE

10:33:39AM OF OTHER DOCK PROJECTS, TO BE ABLE TO DO IT THIS YEAR TO

10:33:44AM START ON THAT PROJECT WELL OR WE'LL BE PUTTING A REQUEST IN

10:33:47AM INTO THE NEXT FY '21 REQUEST TO ADD THOSE BACK.

10:33:50AM BUT WE ARE AT LEAST LOOKING TO HAVE THE SAFETY AND UNSIGHTLY

10:33:54AM ISSUE THERE TAKEN CARE OF.
10:33:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

10:33:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID,

10:34:02AM I KNOW YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A PLAN.

10:34:04AM IS THE BUDGET -- I NEED TO MEET WITH YOU AND ASK YOU A LOT

10:34:08AM MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

10:34:09AM BUT IS THE BUDGET FOR PARKS SIMILAR TO THE ROAD BUDGET WHERE

10:34:13AM IDEALLY WE WOULD BE REPAVING EVERY 25 YEARS BUT WE'RE DOING

10:34:21AM IT AT 75 YEARS.

10:34:23AM ARE WE DOING BASIC MAINTENANCE, DO WE HAVE MUCH OF A BUDGET?

10:34:26AM IS IT GROWING?

10:34:27AM HOW DO WE SET THE EQUITY PRIORITIES ACROSS THE COMMUNITY FOR

10:34:30AM WHATEVER BUDGET?

10:34:32AM >>PAUL DIAL: WELL, I THINK THE MASTER PLAN HAPPENING THIS

10:34:34AM YEAR IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO

10:34:37AM LET US SEE WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND

10:34:41AM THERE IS A PRICE TAG TO THAT.

10:34:42AM THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE.

10:34:44AM THE BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT HAS INCREASED, MORE

10:34:47AM RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT ALSO WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS AND ALL

10:34:50AM THAT GOES INTO THE POINT OF, ARE WE SUFFICIENTLY FUNDED TO

10:34:56AM DO WHAT THE WILL OF THE CITY IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

10:35:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION AND I'LL TALK TO

10:35:03AM YOU LATER.

10:35:04AM SIMILAR TO FAIR OAKS, I THINK YOU SAID WE COULD RENOVATE FOR

10:35:07AM 100,000.
10:35:07AM REPLACE FOR 3 MILLION, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE

10:35:10AM COMMUNITY CENTER.

10:35:11AM IF WE WERE TO DO KIND OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE

10:35:14AM PLAN IS DONE, EVERYTHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO ON THE

10:35:17AM EXISTING PARKS, IS THERE A BIG NUMBER OUT THERE?

10:35:19AM >>PAUL DIAL: THERE IS NOT.

10:35:22AM AGAIN, WE NEED THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH THAT.

10:35:26AM IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULD BE SIMPLY DOING OURSELVES AS

10:35:29AM PRACTITIONERS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT PUBLIC

10:35:33AM INVOLVEMENT OF WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS ARE.

10:35:35AM SOME OF THOSE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL FACILITIES.

10:35:38AM ALL OF THAT ADDS TO THAT COST.

10:35:41AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:35:43AM A COUPLE OF THINGS.

10:35:47AM PAUL, THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.

10:35:49AM THE MASTER PLAN, YOU AND I DISCUSSED, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO

10:35:52AM AN RFP TO SELECT A VENDOR.

10:35:54AM WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS?

10:35:57AM >>PAUL DIAL: A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR THE

10:35:59AM SELECTION COMMITTEE HAS MOVED FORWARD THAT WILL BE

10:36:02AM CONSIDERED BY THE MAYOR.

10:36:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S ALREADY BEEN AN RFP?

10:36:07AM >>PAUL DIAL: YES, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS TO

10:36:09AM WHERE WE'VE DONE INTERVIEWS OF CONSULTING FIRMS AND THAT HAS

10:36:13AM GONE FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
10:36:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL SEE THAT HERE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH

10:36:16AM OR SO.

10:36:19AM >>PAUL DIAL: I DON'T HAVE THE DATE FOR THAT.

10:36:20AM BUT IT SHOULD BE SHORTLY.

10:36:22AM I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY.

10:36:24AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW YOU HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.

10:36:27AM SORRY I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND IN REGARD TO SORT OF THE

10:36:32AM PRE-MASTER PLAN.

10:36:33AM DID WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS?

10:36:35AM >>PAUL DIAL: EIGHT OF THE MEETINGS.

10:36:37AM TWO PER DISTRICT.

10:36:38AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW WAS THE TURNOUT AND WHAT SORT OF

10:36:41AM FEEDBACK DID WE GET?

10:36:42AM WAS IT SUMMARIZED?

10:36:45AM >>PAUL DIAL: SOME WERE SPARSE.

10:36:46AM SOME DID BETTER THAN OTHERS.

10:36:47AM I BELIEVE BETWEEN MEETINGS AND SURVEYS FILLED OUT BECAUSE WE

10:36:51AM ALSO HAD A SURVEY ONLINE, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE

10:36:54AM HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT HAD GIVEN US THEIR COMMENTS TO DATE.

10:36:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT BAD.

10:36:59AM FINALLY, IMPACT FEE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WATER AND THE

10:37:06AM WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE.

10:37:07AM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A PARKS IMPACT FEE IN PLACE IN THE

10:37:11AM CITY.

10:37:12AM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- ASSUMING THAT'S TRUE, AND I
10:37:14AM BELIEVE IT IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE EXPLORED AS A

10:37:18AM VEHICLE TO HELP RAISE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY BY THE NEW

10:37:25AM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING INTO TOWN?

10:37:28AM IN OTHER WORDS, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING WHO DON'T

10:37:31AM UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS, WE HAVE A GREAT PARKS SYSTEM IN

10:37:36AM PLACE.

10:37:37AM WE'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE LAND AND THE FACILITIES

10:37:39AM AND THAT SORT OF THING OVER THE YEARS FOR FOLKS WHO ARE

10:37:44AM ALREADY HERE.

10:37:44AM WE'VE BEEN PAYING FOR THAT.

10:37:47AM FOLKS MOVING HERE, THE IMPACT FEE WOULD SAY, WHY DON'T YOU

10:37:50AM CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU BUY THAT CONDO OR WHEN YOU

10:37:53AM BUILD THAT NEW $600,000 HOUSE, CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT TO

10:37:56AM OUR PARK SYSTEM TO HELP US BUILD THAT NEXT BUILDING OR WHAT

10:38:02AM HAVE YOU?

10:38:03AM WHERE ARE WE ON THAT AND HAS THAT BEEN A SUBJECT OF

10:38:05AM DISCUSSION?

10:38:07AM >>PAUL DIAL: I'VE NOT BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS.

10:38:08AM I WOULD DEFER TO THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE ISSUE, THE CHIEF

10:38:12AM OF STAFF AND LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.

10:38:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT COME UP IN YOUR --

10:38:16AM >>PAUL DIAL: I HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS FOR

10:38:19AM THAT.

10:38:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THEM.

10:38:22AM I'LL SAVE THAT MOTION UNTIL THE END.
10:38:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:38:24AM BRINGING US BACK TO THE TOPIC THAT YOU WERE HERE FOR, THE

10:38:27AM FOREST HILLS ISSUE, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE'S A MASTER

10:38:31AM PLAN, OBVIOUSLY, FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

10:38:34AM THE WAY I SEE THIS FOREST HILLS REC CENTER, THIS ISN'T PART

10:38:37AM OF THE MASTER PLAN.

10:38:39AM THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED I THINK TWO YEARS BEFORE

10:38:41AM I GOT ON BOARD, ONE OR TWO YEARS BEFORE I GOT ON BOARD.

10:38:44AM THIS THING, POLITICALLY SPEAKING, IS ANCIENT HISTORY.

10:38:47AM WHEN I SAW THIS PROJECT BEING PUT ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S

10:38:51AM DISTRICT 7 PROJECTS FOR LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, I TOLD CHIEF

10:38:55AM BENNETT, THIS IS KIND OF REGIFTING.

10:38:57AM THIS THING WAS PASSED A WHILE AGO.

10:39:01AM GROUND SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN BROKEN ON THIS A WHILE AGO.

10:39:04AM AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE STORMWATER CHALLENGES THERE.

10:39:06AM THOSE THINGS WERE UNFORESEEABLE, ET CETERA.

10:39:09AM AGAIN, I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THE FUNDS TOGETHER SO

10:39:12AM THAT THIS COMMUNITY GETS THE REC CENTER IMPROVEMENTS THAT

10:39:15AM HAVE BEEN PROMISED, THAT IT ALREADY PAID ITS TAXES FOR YEARS

10:39:18AM AGO, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT CAN HAPPEN.

10:39:21AM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, MR. DIAL.

10:39:23AM THANK YOU, SIR.

10:39:24AM FOR NUMBER 67, YOU WERE GOING TO DO A CONTINUANCE, SIR?

10:39:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.

10:39:31AM LOOKING AT FEBRUARY 20th, 2020, TO CONTINUE THAT.
10:39:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:39:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

10:39:40AM ANY IN FAVOR?

10:39:41AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:39:41AM OKAY.

10:39:43AM NEXT IS I BELIEVE -- 68.

10:39:54AM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

10:39:56AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:39:58AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:40:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. DUNCAN IS HERE.

10:40:03AM MAYBE SHE CAN GIVE US THE ISLET SINCE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT

10:40:07AM AND SOMETIMES CONTROVERSIAL AREA.

10:40:10AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: TALKING ABOUT THE STORMWATER REPORT?

10:40:13AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.

10:40:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL REPORT WITH ME, BUT I

10:40:17AM CAN TELL YOU THAT THE FIVE, WHAT WE CALL THE BIG YELLOW

10:40:20AM DOTS, WHEN WE HAD THE GREAT SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL A FEW

10:40:23AM YEARS AGO TO PASS THE STORMWATER CAPITAL ASSESSMENT, ALL OF

10:40:26AM THOSE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF ACTIVITY GOING ON, WHICH IS

10:40:29AM OUTLINED IN THE REPORT.

10:40:30AM ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST EVER DESIGN-BUILD

10:40:36AM PROJECT, THE PENINSULA PROJECT, IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

10:40:40AM SPECIFIC PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT GIVES LOTS OF DETAILS AND

10:40:43AM UPDATES ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

10:40:45AM I APOLOGIZE, JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER
10:40:48AM SERVICES.

10:40:49AM THE CYPRESS STREET OUTFALL PROJECT, ONE OF THE OTHER, QUOTE,

10:40:55AM UNQUOTE, BIG YELLOW DOTS, ANOTHER MAJOR DESIGN-BUILD

10:40:58AM PROJECT.

10:40:59AM $30 MILLION, MORE OR LESS, IS ALSO ACTIVE.

10:41:02AM AND THERE'S SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THAT THAT'S

10:41:05AM AVAILABLE.

10:41:05AM WE'RE PLEASED THAT ALL OF THOSE BIG PROJECTS ARE UNDERWAY.

10:41:10AM WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE LITTLE YELLOW DOTS, WHICH ARE

10:41:14AM THE SMALLER CAPITAL PROJECTS.

10:41:15AM THE REPORT GIVES LOTS OF DETAIL OF THE LISTING OF THOSE, THE

10:41:20AM STATUS, AND I'M HAPPY TO GET WITH YOU, ANY OF YOU ONE ON ONE

10:41:27AM IF YOU WANT A BETTER SUMMARY OF YOUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR

10:41:29AM ANY PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, TO KIND

10:41:32AM OF DRILL DOWN IN THE REPORT AND GIVE SOME MORE DETAIL.

10:41:35AM BUT WE'RE REALLY PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS WE MADE FOR OUR

10:41:41AM PROGRAM SO FAR.

10:41:43AM I WANT TO TELL YOU, IT'S NOT JUST THE STORMWATER DIVISION.

10:41:46AM WE'VE GOT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT, THE

10:41:50AM PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.

10:41:51AM WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE MAKING SURE THAT THIS INCREDIBLY

10:41:56AM LARGE STORMWATER PROGRAM IS STAYING ON TIME, ON BUDGET,

10:42:02AM BECAUSE WE DID ISSUE OUR VERY FIRST GREEN BOND ASSOCIATED

10:42:05AM WITH THIS PROJECT, WHICH MEANS WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AND

10:42:08AM OBLIGATED TO INCLUDE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR PROJECTS,
10:42:13AM WHICH HAS BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD MORE ENVIRONMENTAL

10:42:16AM SENSITIVITY AND WATER QUALITY TO THE PROJECT.

10:42:19AM ALL HANDS ARE ON DECK WITH YOUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THIS

10:42:24AM BIG IMPORTANT STORMWATER EFFORT IS KEPT ON SCHEDULE AND

10:42:30AM WE'RE DOTTING ALL OF OUR Is FOR ALL THE PROJECTS.

10:42:34AM WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF

10:42:37AM THINGS.

10:42:38AM A QUICK READER'S DIGEST ON THE REPORT THAT WE SEND TO YOU

10:42:41AM EVERY QUARTER.

10:42:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP, THANK YOU, JEAN, AND

10:42:47AM WE APPRECIATE BOTH YOUR WRITTEN AND PERSONAL REPORT AND ALL

10:42:50AM YOUR HARD WORK.

10:42:52AM SPEAKING OF YOUR HARD WORK, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A PERSONAL

10:42:54AM SHOUT-OUT.

10:42:56AM WHAT'S THE LADY'S NAME, THAT AWARD WE'RE GIVING YOU.

10:43:01AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE JOSEPHINE STAFFORD.

10:43:03AM YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:43:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STAFFORD WAS A LIFETIME EMPLOYEE OF THE

10:43:07AM CITY.

10:43:07AM I THINK SHE WAS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ONE OF THE

10:43:10AM FIRST WOMAN ATTORNEYS IN THE CITY AND SHE LEFT A GREAT

10:43:14AM LEGACY.

10:43:14AM EVERY YEAR WE AWARD TO A FEMALE EMPLOYEE THE JO STAFFORD

10:43:20AM AWARD.

10:43:20AM AND THIS COMING YEAR, YOU GOT IT.
10:43:22AM SO WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU AND YOUR HARD WORK OVER THE YEARS

10:43:27AM AND YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND WE LOOK FORWARD --

10:43:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

10:43:32AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

10:43:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]

10:43:34AM I'M VERY HUMBLED BY THE AWARD AND THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT

10:43:38AM WOMEN IN THE CITY, IT'S JUST AMAZING THAT I FEEL VERY

10:43:41AM HONORED THAT I WAS SELECTED.

10:43:43AM THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE, SO TO SPEAK, OF

10:43:47AM GREAT WOMEN YOU HAVE WORKING FOR YOU.

10:43:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:43:48AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

10:43:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:43:51AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:43:53AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

10:43:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:43:57AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:43:57AM OKAY.

10:43:58AM NEXT WE GO TO 69, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.

10:44:04AM I'M SORRY.

10:44:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: IT WAS A WRITTEN REPORT AND APPEAR.

10:44:07AM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE REPORT THAT YOU GOT.

10:44:09AM IT WAS A LITTLE SKIMPY.

10:44:11AM IT WAS DONE ACTUALLY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A RUSH TO MEET A

10:44:15AM DEADLINE.
10:44:17AM I DID DO AN UPDATED VERSION.

10:44:19AM IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN HAND THAT TO YOU.

10:44:21AM I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE TO GET THINGS HANDED AT THE LAST

10:44:23AM MINUTE, BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE.

10:44:26AM JUST QUICKLY, JUST ADDING A LITTLE MORE DETAIL TO THE

10:44:36AM QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS, ONE

10:44:40AM BEING NORTH BOULEVARD AND COUNTRY CLUB AREA.

10:44:47AM WE HAD A PROJECT SCHEDULED IN THE AREA.

10:44:50AM WE ACTUALLY BROKE IT INTO TWO PIECES TO TRY TO BRING SOME

10:44:55AM EFFICIENCY TO THAT CORRIDOR AREA, AND I PUT SOME MORE DETAIL

10:45:00AM IN THIS LITTLE REPORT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

10:45:03AM WE'VE TAKEN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMPONENT.

10:45:05AM WE'RE WORKING ON A REDESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT THE

10:45:09AM INTERSECTION OF COUNTRY CLUB AND NORTH BOULEVARD TO MAKE IT

10:45:12AM SAFER AND MORE UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS, ADD SOME TRAFFIC

10:45:17AM CALMING TO THE INTERSECTION AND SAFETY, AND WE WILL BE

10:45:21AM TAKING THAT PROJECT OUT SEPARATELY.

10:45:24AM THAT PROJECT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, THE RESURFACING AND NORTH

10:45:27AM BOULEVARD RESURFACING, ALL FUNDED IN OUR BUDGET FOR A

10:45:31AM MILLION DOLLARS.

10:45:32AM WE DECIDED TO TAKE THE NORTH BOULEVARD COMPONENT OUT, IF I

10:45:35AM COULD HOLD THIS UP VISUALLY FOR A SECOND TO GIVE YOU AN

10:45:40AM IDEA, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD CONCEPT DEVELOPED FOR THE NORTH

10:45:42AM BOULEVARD PROJECT.

10:45:45AM I CAN JUST KIND OF PUT A LITTLE BIT OF THIS ON THE ELMO FOR
10:45:50AM THE PUBLIC TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO

10:45:53AM THIS ALREADY.

10:45:57AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BACK IT OUT ON THE ZOOM.

10:46:03AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE'LL LEAVE THAT FOR NOW.

10:46:06AM JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS

10:46:09AM CORRIDOR AND WE'RE GOING TO BE INCORPORATING THIS PARTICULAR

10:46:12AM LEG OF THE PROJECT IN WITH OUR PIPES WORK GOING ON.

10:46:17AM WE'LL BE ADDING SIDEWALKS, OBVIOUSLY, RESURFACING THE ROAD,

10:46:22AM ADDING TRAFFIC CALMING.

10:46:23AM WE ANTICIPATE TO PROBABLY ADD AT LEAST NINE FLASHING BEACON

10:46:26AM INTERSECTIONS TO THIS CORRIDOR.

10:46:28AM SO A LOT OF THAT WILL OCCUR UNDER THE PIPES PROJECT, AS I

10:46:32AM SAID, UNDER THE COUNTRY CLUB PORTION.

10:46:34AM WE'RE GOING TO RESURFACE COUNTRY CLUB THIS YEAR WITH OUR

10:46:37AM IN-HOUSE TEAM, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PROGRESSING THE DESIGN

10:46:40AM OF THE ROUNDABOUT.

10:46:42AM RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 2021, POSSIBLY

10:46:50AM OCTOBER THIS YEAR.

10:46:51AM IF WE CAN ACCELERATE THE DESIGN, WE'LL ACCELERATE THE

10:46:53AM CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.

10:46:54AM LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

10:46:55AM I APOLOGIZE IT WASN'T IN YOUR ORIGINAL REPORT.

10:46:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FINE.

10:46:59AM MAY I HAVE A COPY OF THAT?

10:47:02AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: CERTAINLY, CAN I E-MAIL THIS TO ALL THE
10:47:04AM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

10:47:06AM THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.

10:47:09AM ANYTIME YOU WANT TO GET MORE UPDATED ON THE PARTICULARS,

10:47:12AM PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

10:47:14AM I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

10:47:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: WAS IT STORMWATER OR PIPES CHALLENGES THAT

10:47:18AM SLOWED THIS DOWN?

10:47:20AM I THINK THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE I THINK A YEAR AGO,

10:47:23AM CORRECT?

10:47:24AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, PART OF THE REASON FOR THE DELAY WAS TO,

10:47:28AM AGAIN, GO OUT THERE ONE TIME, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT

10:47:32AM WITH ALL OF OUR WORK.

10:47:33AM BRAD BAIRD IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT IS THE

10:47:37AM M.O., THE PHILOSOPHY.

10:47:39AM WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT PHILOSOPHY BUT IT'S REALLY EVEN MORE

10:47:42AM IMPORTANT WITH ALL THE WORK WE HAVE COMING, IN ALL THE

10:47:44AM DOLLARS COMING IN.

10:47:45AM WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER.

10:47:51AM WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE UTILITY WORK OF WATER AND

10:47:54AM WASTEWATER, AND THEN GO OUT ONE TIME IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE

10:47:57AM AND GET ALL THAT WORK DONE, AND THEN WE CANNOT HAVE TO GO

10:48:02AM BACK AND SORT OF PATCHWORK QUILT, KEEP WORKING ON THINGS AT

10:48:07AM DIFFERENT TIMES.

10:48:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS COUNTRY CLUB PROJECT, WHEN IS IT EXPECTED

10:48:11AM TO HAVE A GROUND BREAKING ON IT, SO TO SPEAK?
10:48:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE COUNTRY CLUB?

10:48:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:48:16AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS TEAM

10:48:19AM PLANNING TO RESCHEDULE IT.

10:48:21AM I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC MONTH ON THAT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY

10:48:26AM GET THAT FOR YOU.

10:48:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS IT EXPECTED THIS YEAR I ASSUME?

10:48:30AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, THIS YEAR.

10:48:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: NORTH BOULEVARD, SO YOU'RE RIGHT NOW DOING A

10:48:34AM DESIGN FOR NORTH BOULEVARD.

10:48:35AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE'RE DOING A DESIGN FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT

10:48:37AM THE INTERSECTION.

10:48:39AM THE NORTH BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, WE HAVE AN RFP OUT FOR FOUR

10:48:45AM BIG AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, INCLUDING FOREST HILLS.

10:48:48AM SO THIS WORK WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT BIG RFP THAT'S BEEN

10:48:54AM PUT OUT ON THE STREET.

10:48:55AM I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DATES YET FOR THIS PARTICULAR ROAD

10:48:58AM BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY, BUT THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS

10:49:00AM AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ONCE WE SELECT

10:49:04AM OUR CONTRACTOR AND GET THINGS UNDERWAY WITH THE CONSULTANT

10:49:07AM AND THE CONTRACTOR.

10:49:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IS THE CONTRACTOR GOING TO BE SELECTED

10:49:10AM ROUGHLY?

10:49:19AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:49:25AM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.
10:49:27AM I'M SORRY.

10:49:28AM I WAS WORKING ON A PRESENTATION COMING UP.

10:49:29AM BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM, THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT

10:49:34AM THAT'S COMING OUT, WE WILL BE DOING THOSE SELECTIONS ON

10:49:38AM FEBRUARY 21st.

10:49:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE REPAVING NORTH,

10:49:43AM CORRECT?

10:49:43AM >>BRAD BAIRD: REPAVING IS PART OF EACH OF THOSE FOUR

10:49:48AM NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:49:48AM JUST AS A REMINDER, THE FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE FOREST HILLS,

10:49:51AM MacFARLANE PARK, EAST TAMPA, AND VIRGINIA PARK.

10:49:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

10:49:56AM THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

10:49:57AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:50:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, JEAN.

10:50:02AM AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AWARD.

10:50:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:50:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS.

10:50:07AM I'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE MYSELF AND LOOKED AT THE ROADS.

10:50:10AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR STAFF HAS DRIVEN OUT THERE AND LOOKED

10:50:13AM AT THE ROADS.

10:50:15AM YOU CAN SEE THE OLD, OLD SURFACE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THE

10:50:17AM DIRT IS.

10:50:18AM THEY ARE VERY, VERY BAD.

10:50:19AM I HAVE THE TEMPLE CHURCH CALLING ME CONSTANTLY ABOUT THOSE
10:50:23AM ROADS IN THAT AREA.

10:50:25AM I KNOW THAT THE EAST TAMPA CRA AT TIMES HAVE PUT MONEY

10:50:29AM TOWARDS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

10:50:31AM NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THAT AREA THERE IS PART OF THE YBOR CRA,

10:50:36AM I BELIEVE, IN THAT AREA.

10:50:38AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: OF FOREST HILLS?

10:50:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, NEBRASKA EAST --

10:50:43AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.

10:50:45AM I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE BOUNDARY ON THAT.

10:50:47AM I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

10:50:49AM I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE DO USE CRA MONIES FROM TIME TO

10:50:53AM TIME, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY CHECK THAT.

10:50:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED TO CHECK THE BOUNDARY ON THAT ALSO,

10:50:57AM BUT I'M HOPING THAT YOUR STAFF IS GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND

10:51:00AM ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS ROAD BECAUSE TO ME IT'S IN HAZARDOUS

10:51:05AM CONDITION.

10:51:06AM I DON'T KNOW THE LAST TIME WE PAVED THAT AREA, BUT IT'S

10:51:12AM VERY, VERY BAD.

10:51:12AM WE NEED TO LOOK INTO WHEN WAS IT LAST PAVED.

10:51:16AM ALSO, IF IS IN A CRA ZONE, I KNOW YOU PARTNER WITH EAST

10:51:21AM TAMPA IN REFERENCE TO THOSE ROADS, AGAIN, I'M GETTING A LOT

10:51:24AM OF, A LOT OF HEAT FROM THE RESIDENTS SAYING NO ONE HAS COME

10:51:28AM THROUGH THERE IN A MULTITUDE OF YEARS.

10:51:30AM IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET A PROJECT

10:51:33AM WORKING AND YOU CAN COME BACK WITH A WRITTEN REPORT AND GIVE
10:51:36AM ME AN UPDATE ON THAT.

10:51:37AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I CERTAINLY WILL.

10:51:40AM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE REPORT, THE LAST BULLET, WE ARE

10:51:44AM UPDATING OUR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, WHICH IS BASICALLY

10:51:47AM THE CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT IN TERMS OF THE BASE, THE

10:51:50AM ASPHALT, THE CRACKS, THE AGE, ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS AND

10:51:54AM UPDATING OUR PRIORITIZATION LIST BECAUSE WE DO TRY TO

10:51:57AM ADDRESS THE WORST FIRST IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES.

10:52:00AM I WOULD IMAGINE THIS IS PROBABLY IN THAT CATEGORY.

10:52:03AM BUT THAT WILL GIVE US A BETTER TECHNICAL BASIS FOR WHY WE'RE

10:52:08AM DOING SOME ROADS NOW AND NOT SOME ROADS.

10:52:11AM BUT THAT'S ONGOING IN PARALLEL TO YOUR REQUEST YOU MADE AND

10:52:15AM CERTAINLY GET BACK TO YOU ON THESE PARTICULAR STREETS.

10:52:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU COULD HAVE ONE OF YOUR STAFF GO OUT

10:52:22AM THERE AND EXAMINE IT, BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, VERY, VERY

10:52:25AM BAD.

10:52:27AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.

10:52:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:52:29AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:52:31AM I SEE MR. DIAL STILL HERE.

10:52:33AM I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S WAITING ON 74, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO

10:52:38AM CONTINUE.

10:52:39AM THAT'S ME.

10:52:41AM I'LL PASS THE GAVEL, IF I MAY, AND DO A CONTINUANCE.

10:52:47AM 74 TO THE FIRST COUNCIL IN APRIL.
10:52:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN VIERA

10:52:58AM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:53:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:53:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:53:03AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 70, WHERE THERE IS A REQUEST TO

10:53:09AM CONTINUE, AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

10:53:12AM 71.

10:53:14AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID WE DO 70?

10:53:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON 70.

10:53:19AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 2nd, UNLESS

10:53:21AM THERE'S OBJECTION.

10:53:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:53:24AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:53:26AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:53:28AM ANY OPPOSED?

10:53:28AM 71.

10:53:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:53:32AM JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.

10:53:35AM I HAVE A VERY BRIEF ONE-PAGE SUMMARY FOR YOU.

10:53:39AM THIS GOT PUT ON THE AGENDA LAST THURSDAY.

10:53:43AM SO I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU'RE JUST NOW GETTING THIS, BUT IT'S

10:53:47AM BRIEF AND I THINK IT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

10:53:51AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA, WHY

10:53:54AM DON'T YOU TELL US WHAT THIS IS.

10:53:57AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE MOTION WAS TO BRING INFORMATION REGARDING
10:54:00AM THE REMOVAL OF LAUREL OAK TREES IN CONNECTION WITH THE

10:54:02AM REPAVING OF THE DESOTO STREET IN THE HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

10:54:08AM SO THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION STORMWATER SERVICES

10:54:12AM DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE A RESURFACING PROJECT.

10:54:16AM I'LL PUT THIS ON THE ELMO.

10:54:19AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN ASSIST ME WITH ZOOM ON THIS

10:54:23AM THING.

10:54:23AM OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

10:54:32AM THAT'S GOOD.

10:54:37AM THANK YOU, STEVE.

10:54:37AM SO THIS AREA THAT'S IN YELLOW IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE

10:54:45AM RESURFACING THE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN THIS AREA,

10:54:49AM INCLUDING THE INTERSECTION OF MISSISSIPPI, DESOTO, AND

10:54:53AM HOWARD, WHICH, BY THE WAY, STEVE MICHELINI WAS VERY HELPFUL

10:54:58AM WITH US IN GETTING AN EASEMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO MODIFY THAT

10:55:01AM INTERSECTION TO MAKE IT MUCH SAFER AND CALM THE TRAFFIC.

10:55:04AM SO IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE'S

10:55:07AM THOUSANDS OF TREES.

10:55:10AM WE LOOKED AT THE TREES ALONG THE ROADWAY CORRIDORS OF THE

10:55:15AM ROADS WE'RE RESURFACING, WHICH IS MAINLY THE YELLOW DOTS

10:55:18AM THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP.

10:55:20AM SO AS PART OF OUR USUAL PROCESS, WE EVALUATED ALL OF THOSE

10:55:25AM TREES.

10:55:26AM AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, WE LOVE OUR OAK TREES

10:55:30AM IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT THEY OFTEN CREATE ISSUES WITH THE
10:55:33AM ROAD SURFACE, THE ROAD CONDITION, THE DRAINAGE, THE

10:55:37AM SIDEWALKS.

10:55:37AM AFTER SO MANY YEARS, THEY BECOME OLD AND NEED TO BE REMOVED

10:55:41AM AND THEY ALSO CREATE PROBLEMS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

10:55:44AM SO OUT OF THE 193 TREES THAT WERE ALONG THE PROJECT

10:55:48AM CORRIDOR, THE ROADS RESURFACING, WE HAD 13 THAT IN WORKING

10:55:53AM WITH OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOLKS, KATHY BECK AND

10:55:57AM NATURAL RESOURCES FOLKS, AND WITH OUR ARBORIST, OUR

10:56:01AM CERTIFIED CITY ARBORIST, WE DETERMINED THAT 13 TREES WOULD

10:56:05AM NEED TO BE REMOVED WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.

10:56:09AM SO I'VE LISTED WHERE THOSE TREES ARE IN THE SECOND BULLET,

10:56:13AM WHAT KIND OF TREES THEY ARE, AND THE STREETS THAT THEY ARE

10:56:18AM ON.

10:56:19AM JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL ON

10:56:22AM ONE STREET AND NOT ALL LAUREL OAK TREES.

10:56:25AM THERE'S A MIX.

10:56:26AM SO WE'RE CURRENTLY TRIMMING SOME OF THOSE BRANCHES AND IN

10:56:30AM THE PROCESS OF REMOVING THESE TREES AS WE WORK OUR WAY

10:56:34AM THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE VARIOUS STREETS, AND WE'RE

10:56:37AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAY IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE NATURAL

10:56:42AM RESOURCES STAFF AS WELL AS OUR CONTRACTOR.

10:56:47AM MANAGED BY CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT, AND THEY ARE

10:56:49AM DOING A VERY EXCELLENT JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT THE ARBORIST

10:56:53AM AND A CONTRACTOR WHO IS AJAX, ARE FOLLOWING OUR PLANS AND

10:56:58AM NOT GOING OFF THE RESERVATION, SO TO SPEAK, WITH ANY TREE
10:57:02AM DECISIONS OR REMOVALS THAT AREN'T ALREADY APPROVED.

10:57:07AM IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE

10:57:11AM QUESTIONS.

10:57:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO EACH

10:57:14AM OTHER ABOUT IT BUT I THINK AT LEAST TWO OF US GOT A BUNCH OF

10:57:17AM CALLS ABOUT THIS.

10:57:20AM MY SENSE WAS THAT NEIGHBORS FELT LIKE THEY WERE BLINDSIDED,

10:57:24AM THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

10:57:27AM WHAT CONVERSATIONS DID YOU HAVE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD

10:57:28AM ASSOCIATIONS OR INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORS?

10:57:30AM THE BIGGEST QUESTION, IS THERE ANY CHANCE TO SAVE ANY OF

10:57:34AM THEM?

10:57:35AM I CAN'T TELL BY THE DOTS WHICH ONES ARE BEING TORN OUT, BUT

10:57:39AM I THINK THE PEOPLE IN DESOTO FEEL LIKE IN PARTICULAR THEIR

10:57:41AM LITTLE AREA IS BEING MORE IMPACTED THAN OTHER AREAS.

10:57:45AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

10:57:48AM THE INTERSECTION COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT, DESOTO,

10:57:53AM MISSISSIPPI, AND HOWARD, THIS PROJECT STARTED OUT WITH JUST

10:57:57AM THAT INTERSECTION.

10:57:58AM AS TIME WENT ON, WE DETERMINED BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, ROAD

10:58:02AM CONDITIONS, WE NEED TO RESURFACE THIS WHOLE AREA.

10:58:04AM WE WORKED ON THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION PROJECT FOR

10:58:06AM PROBABLY FIVE YEARS, TRYING AND WORKING WITH THE

10:58:10AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP TO LAND ON THE CONCEPT THAT IT WAS

10:58:14AM ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE AND THEN, OF COURSE, GETTING AN
10:58:18AM EASEMENT.

10:58:19AM AS PART OF THAT WE DECIDED TO ROLL THAT INTERSECTION PROJECT

10:58:21AM IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESURFACING, AND WE HAD EXTENSIVE

10:58:25AM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

10:58:29AM THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT I JUST PUT ON THE ELMO IS THE

10:58:33AM PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAD SOME MONTHS AGO THAT'S ONLINE, ON

10:58:37AM OUR WEBSITE, WHERE WE WENT THROUGH EXACTLY OUR INFORMATION

10:58:41AM ABOUT WHICH TREES WERE GOING TO BE IMPACTED, AND THAT WAS

10:58:45AM ALL COMMUNICATED NOT ONLY IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, BUT THROUGH

10:58:47AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERSHIP.

10:58:52AM WHEN THE PROJECT GOT UNDERWAY, OUR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION

10:58:56AM FOLKS WENT OUT AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS

10:59:01AM ABOUT THE TREE REMOVAL, WHICH THEY COULD GIVE YOU MORE

10:59:03AM DETAIL ON THAT, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

10:59:05AM BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE DID AS MUCH EXTENSIVE OUTREACH AND

10:59:09AM ANYTIME WE DO A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH

10:59:12AM COMMUNICATION OUTREACH, WE ALWAYS DO FEEL THAT THERE ARE

10:59:15AM SOME PEOPLE THAT FEEL LIKE THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

10:59:19AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A CHALLENGE, AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE

10:59:22AM WORKING ON OF HOW DO WE TOUCH EVERYONE WITH THIS

10:59:26AM INFORMATION?

10:59:27AM NOWADAYS WE USE SOCIAL MEDIA AND Facebook, TWITTER,

10:59:30AM BESIDES THE OLD-FASHIONED WEBSITE AND PUBLIC MEETINGS, BUT

10:59:34AM WE DO FEEL THAT WE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THE

10:59:37AM LEADERSHIP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS AWARE, THAT
10:59:40AM ALL THE RESIDENTS WERE AWARE, AND WE REGRET THAT PEOPLE DO

10:59:45AM FEEL BLINDSIDED WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN, AND WE COMMIT TO

10:59:49AM KEEP WORKING TO DO BETTER ON THAT, WHATEVER CHANGES WE CAN

10:59:51AM MAKE TO REACH EVERYONE BEFOREHAND.

10:59:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAD TWO QUESTIONS I SMASHED TOGETHER.

10:59:59AM THE BIGGEST QUESTION, ARE THERE ANY TREES WE CAN SAVE OR

11:00:03AM MUST WE TAKE OUT ALL OF THOSE?

11:00:05AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: AGAIN, BETWEEN THE CERTIFIED ARBORIST AND OUR

11:00:08AM NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF, THEY ARE INDICATING THAT THESE

11:00:12AM PARTICULAR TREES -- AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT ALL LAUREL OAKS --

11:00:16AM EITHER THROUGH THEIR HEALTH IN TERMS OF WHETHER THEY ARE

11:00:21AM DYING OR ALREADY DEAD, OR SAFETY REASONS, HAVE TO BE

11:00:26AM REMOVED.

11:00:27AM OUT OF THE 193 THAT LINE THE ROADS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD

11:00:34AM STREETS.

11:00:37AM THEY COULD SPEAK MORE IN DETAIL OF WHY THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE

11:00:40AM TO GO, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S IN OUR

11:00:44AM CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

11:00:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:00:52AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, ARE YOU DONE?

11:00:54AM MS. DUNCAN, THANKS FOR THIS REPORT.

11:00:58AM SORRY TO GO A LITTLE CRAZY LAST WEEK, BUT WE WERE GETTING

11:01:03AM CALLS ON THIS.

11:01:04AM SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT AND THEN THEY START

11:01:07AM SEEING THE CITY TAKING DOWN ITS OWN TREES, AND THAT CAUSES
11:01:11AM ALARM.

11:01:12AM BUT THIS IS A GOOD REPORT.

11:01:13AM THE 13 OUT OF 193 IS LESS THAN 10%.

11:01:18AM THAT'S NOT SO BAD.

11:01:19AM UNLESS ALL THE TREES ARE IN FRONT OF YOUR OWN HOUSE, THEN IT

11:01:23AM BECOMES A LITTLE DRAMATIC.

11:01:24AM MY SPECIFIC QUESTION IS, WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS, THE

11:01:30AM PERSON WHO TALKED TO ME THE MOST SAID THAT WHEN SHE TALKED

11:01:33AM TO THE CONTRACTOR, THE CONTRACTOR SAID THAT THIS TREE IS

11:01:38AM DIGGING UP THE STREET WITH ITS ROOTS, WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU

11:01:45AM LISTED HERE IN TERMS OF THE REMOVAL.

11:01:49AM IT SAYS THE REMOVAL WAS WARRANTED BASED ON THE SAFETY AND

11:01:53AM HEALTH OF THE TREE.

11:01:53AM I KNOW, I WENT OUT THERE THE NEXT DAY OR THAT EVENING,

11:01:56AM ACTUALLY, AND SAW THAT SOME OF THE LAUREL OAKS EITHER

11:02:00AM BECAUSE OF TECO TRIMMING OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE JUST GOTTEN

11:02:04AM OLD, LAUREL OAKS DO HAVE 40-, 50-YEAR LIFE SPAN, START

11:02:11AM DYING, AND THAT'S OKAY.

11:02:12AM WE CAN'T HELP THAT.

11:02:13AM BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE TREES WHERE THE ROOTS

11:02:19AM CAUSING IMPACT, AND THAT'S WHY THOSE TREES ARE COMING OUT?

11:02:23AM IF THAT'S THE CASE, ISN'T THERE ROOT PRUNING AND THAT SORT

11:02:25AM OF THING THAT CAN OR SHOULD BE DONE INSTEAD?

11:02:29AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, IT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

11:02:31AM AGAIN, I REFER YOU TO THE ELMO.
11:02:33AM THIS INFORMATION, AGAIN, WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC WHEN WE

11:02:36AM HAD OUR PUBLIC MEETING, DISCUSSED WITH THE HOMEOWNERS

11:02:39AM ASSOCIATION AND IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.

11:02:40AM OUR STAFF ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH THIS METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION

11:02:45AM AROUND TREES, WHICH WE CALL THE CARE METHOD.

11:02:47AM IT IS A MORE FINESSED, DELICATE APPROACH TO TREE PRUNING

11:02:51AM THAN WE'VE EVER USED IN THE PAST, WHICH IS OUR EFFORT TO TRY

11:02:55AM TO MINIMIZE JUST GOING IN AND START WHACKING WITH A CHAIN

11:03:00AM SAW OR SOMETHING.

11:03:01AM WHEN I SAY HEALTH OR SAFETY, THE SAFETY ASPECT IS, IF WE

11:03:05AM DON'T REMOVE THE TREE AND IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO FINESSE THE

11:03:10AM ROOTS ANY MORE THAN WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE

11:03:13AM ARBORIST, THE TREE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN ORDER FOR THE

11:03:16AM SAFETY OF BUILDING THAT ROAD PROPERLY SO WE DON'T HAVE FOLKS

11:03:20AM DRIVING AROUND BIG -- HITTING ANOTHER CAR, DAMAGING THEIR

11:03:25AM VEHICLE OR WHAT THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN ROOT INTRUSION COMES

11:03:29AM ALONG.

11:03:29AM WE ARE DOING AS BEST WE CAN, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS METHOD

11:03:33AM WITH OUR NATURAL RESOURCES FOLKS WHO ARE VERY PLEASED THAT

11:03:36AM WE'RE TAKING A MORE GENTLE APPROACH WITH THE TREES, BUT THE

11:03:39AM REALITY IS SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME OUT IN ORDER TO

11:03:45AM MAKE EITHER SIDEWALK, BICYCLE LANE OR ROAD SAFER AND FOR THE

11:03:49AM DRAINAGE TO WORK PROPERLY ON THE ROADWAY.

11:03:52AM AND WE REGRET WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

11:03:54AM WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE THAT THE BEST WE CAN, BUT THERE'S
11:03:58AM REALLY NOT ANY AVOIDING IT IN SOME SITUATIONS.

11:04:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE EIGHT TREES AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT

11:04:02AM SLIDE, IT SAYS THE CITY HAS LIMITED REMOVAL TO EIGHT TREES.

11:04:07AM WHERE DO THOSE EIGHT TREES FIT ON THIS PAGE?

11:04:09AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DIDN'T MEAN TO CONFUSE THIS WITH THIS

11:04:12AM EXAMPLE.

11:04:13AM WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE EVALUATION, IT WAS 8.

11:04:18AM WHEN WE WENT OUT WITH THE ARBORIST AND THE NATURAL

11:04:22AM RESOURCES, WE HAD FIVE MORE THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD LEAVE

11:04:26AM WITH THE CARE METHOD, AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO.

11:04:29AM BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHERS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO LEAVE FOR THE

11:04:32AM CARE METHOD THAT AREN'T BEING REMOVED WHICH ARE NOT ON YOUR

11:04:35AM REPORT BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THOSE ARE THE ONES STAYING.

11:04:37AM THE TOTAL IS 13.

11:04:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S SORT OF A PRELIMINARY THING, THE

11:04:42AM 8.

11:04:43AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, YES.

11:04:44AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST LIKE YOU SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO,

11:04:49AM CAN YOU E-MAIL THE REST OF COUNCIL, ALL OF COUNCIL THIS

11:04:51AM DOCUMENT SO WE CAN SHARE IT WITH ANYBODY THAT WE HEAR FROM?

11:04:54AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.

11:04:55AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS WELL AS THIS ONE-PAGER.

11:04:57AM THANK YOU.

11:05:00AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.

11:05:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
11:05:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

11:05:04AM I'M WAITING FOR NUMBER 72.

11:05:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:05:09AM WE MOVE TO 72.

11:05:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

11:05:12AM MS. DUNCAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

11:05:15AM I WAS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, SOUTH OF GANDY,

11:05:19AM GANDY SOUTH BAY.

11:05:20AM ON ONE HAND, THEY WERE SO ELATED BECAUSE OKLAHOMA, FROM DALE

11:05:25AM MABRY TO MANHATTAN HAS BEEN REPAVED.

11:05:28AM ON THE OTHER HAND, BECAUSE THERE WERE NO MORE POTHOLES,

11:05:31AM SPEEDERS WERE SPEEDING FROM DALE MABRY TO MANHATTAN.

11:05:35AM AND I WAS INQUIRING WHEN THE SPEED HUMPS AND SPEED LIMIT

11:05:39AM SIGNS WERE GOING TO BE REPLACED.

11:05:41AM I WAS WISE ENOUGH TO CONTACT YOUR OFFICE.

11:05:44AM AND I FOUND OUT THAT IN FOUR DAYS, FROM THE 27th, THESE

11:05:48AM THINGS WILL BE STARTING TO BE REPLACED.

11:05:50AM MS. DUNCAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

11:05:53AM I WILL SEND ON THIS INFORMATION TO ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE

11:05:57AM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

11:05:58AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

11:05:59AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.

11:06:01AM I DO HAVE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION, IF YOU'D LIKE IT.

11:06:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.

11:06:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: FOR EVERYONE, OF COURSE.
11:06:07AM I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, SINCE YOU DID GET YOUR INFORMATION.

11:06:21AM BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, YES, THE SPEED TABLES ON OKLAHOMA

11:06:25AM AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER STREETS LISTED ON THIS

11:06:27AM ONE-PAGE SUMMARY THAT WILL BE -- THAT WILL BE OR ARE TAKEN

11:06:32AM OUT AS PART OF THE RESURFACING.

11:06:34AM AND THOSE WILL BE PUT BACK, LIKE I MENTIONED.

11:06:38AM THE OKLAHOMA ONES ARE GOING TO BE PUT BACK BY THE END OF

11:06:42AM NEXT WEEK, STARTING MONDAY.

11:06:45AM THE SAME WILL OCCUR WITH THE OTHER SPEED TABLES THAT ARE

11:06:48AM REMOVED.

11:06:48AM THEY WILL BE PUT BACK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

11:06:50AM THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS, WE WENT OUT AND CHECKED, AND THOSE

11:06:53AM REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AND THERE'S NOT ANY --

11:06:56AM WE'RE NOT TAKING OUT, SO NOT SURE IF SOMEONE FELT

11:07:00AM DIFFERENTLY.

11:07:00AM IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEY CAN CONTACT US AND WE'LL DISCUSS

11:07:03AM THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THAT WITH THEM.

11:07:05AM THEN THE ATTACHED DOCUMENTS ARE JUST SHOWING WHAT WE

11:07:10AM COMPLETED SO FAR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT REMAINS TO BE

11:07:15AM COMPLETED TO FINISH OUT THE RESURFACING OF THIS AREA.

11:07:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

11:07:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

11:07:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:07:23AM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 73.

11:07:26AM WE'LL HAVE MR. SHELBY DO THAT LATER ON TOWARD THE END.
11:07:30AM 74.

11:07:31AM 75 IS A WRITTEN REPORT.

11:07:32AM DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?

11:07:35AM EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT?

11:07:38AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

11:07:39AM I'LL SAY, IF I MAY, ON 75, THE REASON I DID THIS, DOES

11:07:44AM ANYBODY HERE EVER POST ON NEXT DOOR?

11:07:46AM AM I THE ONLY ONE.

11:07:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I USED TO UNTIL I CAME ON COUNCIL AND

11:07:52AM THEN MR. SHELBY ADVISED THERE MIGHT BE SOME SUNSHINE

11:07:55AM CONCERNS.

11:07:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, YOU CREATE PUBLIC RECORDS SO LONG AS YOU

11:08:00AM DON'T DELETE THEM.

11:08:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY CONCERN, MR. SHELBY, WANT TO CHIME IN,

11:08:06AM IF I HAPPEN TO BE TALKING TO LET'S SAY SOUTH TAMPA PEOPLE ON

11:08:11AM NEXT DOOR AND MR. CARLSON HAPPENS TO BE READING IT AND

11:08:14AM SOMEHOW, NOT INTENTIONAL BUT UNINTENTIONAL COMMUNICATION, I

11:08:22AM THINK THAT MIGHT BE A CONCERN.

11:08:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NEXT DOOR UNDER FLORIDA LAW IS NOT A PUBLIC

11:08:27AM FORUM.

11:08:27AM YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPUTER

11:08:31AM ACCESS.

11:08:31AM SO UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW, NEXT DOOR DOES NOT COMPLY IN ANY

11:08:38AM FASHION TO THE SUNSHINE LAW.

11:08:41AM THEREFORE, IF YOU COMMUNICATE YOUR POSITION WITH CITY
11:08:44AM BUSINESS, IT'S ONE THING TO NOTIFY OF COMMUNITY EVENTS.

11:08:50AM IT'S ANOTHER THING TO NOTIFY PEOPLE OF MEETINGS THAT MAY BE

11:08:53AM FORTHCOMING AND THE LIKE.

11:08:55AM BUT WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATING A POSITION THAT IS

11:09:02AM SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT COULD

11:09:04AM FORESEEABLY COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO A VOTE IT RAISES A

11:09:08AM QUESTION OF WHETHER IT DOES VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW.

11:09:12AM IS THERE A SPECIFIC CASE POINTING TO NEXT DOOR?

11:09:17AM NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT I DON'T THINK TAMPA WANTS TO BE THE

11:09:20AM FIRST VENUE TO HAVE ONE OPINION AN UNINTENTIONAL VIOLATION

11:09:26AM OF THE SUNSHINE LAW STILL HAS SANCTIONS ATTACHED TO IT.

11:09:30AM THE MOST IMPORTANT SANCTION REGARD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS

11:09:34AM THAT A VIOLATION OF AN ACTION IN VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE

11:09:41AM LAW HAS THE EFFECT OF MAKING WHATEVER ACTION CITY COUNCIL

11:09:45AM ULTIMATELY TOOK, WHATEVER OFFICIAL ACTION, TO MAKE THAT

11:09:49AM ORDINANCE OR ACTION VOID AB INITIO FROM THE OUTSET.

11:09:53AM SO IT UNDERMINES IT.

11:09:56AM THERE IS A GREAT RISK COMMUNICATING POSITIONS ON BULLETIN

11:10:02AM BOARDS THAT ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC UNDER FLORIDA LAW.

11:10:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: WOULD THAT APPLY AS WELL TO Facebook?

11:10:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSOLUTELY.

11:10:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

11:10:10AM MY BIG ISSUE IS NOT TO HAVE DEBATES OR DISCUSSIONS OR

11:10:13AM ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT TO MAKE COMMUNITIES AWARE OF

11:10:16AM ISSUES.
11:10:17AM PERFECT EXAMPLE, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, I HAD A CONSTITUENT

11:10:20AM TALK TO ME ABOUT EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH WATER BILLS IN THE

11:10:23AM ARBOR GREEN COMMUNITY IN NEW TAMPA.

11:10:26AM SO I WENT ON NEXT DOOR.

11:10:27AM I DID A POST, BECAUSE I FOUND FIVE OR SIX INDIVIDUALS FROM

11:10:31AM ARBOR GREEN WHO ARE SEEING BILLS GO UP FROM $80 TO $300.

11:10:36AM IT IS SOMETHING SLIGHTLY UNIQUE TO THE COMMUNITY SO I DID A

11:10:40AM POST ON NEXT DOOR.

11:10:41AM I CAN POST BECAUSE I LIVE IN HUNTER'S GREEN, NEXT TO ARBOR

11:10:44AM GREEN.

11:10:44AM THE ISSUE IS, WHAT IF I WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO FOLKS FROM

11:10:48AM FOREST HILLS OR TERRACE PARKS OR TAMPA PALMS WHERE I DON'T

11:10:52AM LIVE.

11:10:53AM MY NEXT DOOR DOESN'T REACH TAMPA PALMS.

11:10:55AM I DO THINK THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE

11:10:58AM MEMBERS THAT WANT THAT AND NOT JUST GOING THROUGH THE CITY

11:11:01AM SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A VOICE OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

11:11:04AM I THINK THE MORE CONTACT THAT YOU HAVE THAT DOESN'T EXPOSE

11:11:08AM US TO LAWSUITS AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT LEGAL ISSUES IS A

11:11:11AM GOOD THING.

11:11:12AM I SEE HERE THE REPORT, AND IT APPEARS TO SAY THAT THE CITY

11:11:16AM WILL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE OWN CITY'S MEANS,

11:11:19AM THAT'S FINE, BUT I STILL THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT

11:11:24AM THEIR NEXT DOOR SHOULD HAVE IT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, NOT

11:11:27AM THROUGH THE MEANS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA PROPER THROUGH CITY
11:11:30AM COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THEN

11:11:34AM THE DUTY IS UPON US TO COMPLY WITH FLORIDA LAW.

11:11:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

11:11:38AM IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN AND

11:11:43AM ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.

11:11:44AM I WILL BE MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TODAY.

11:11:46AM THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES I INTEND TO BRING UP WHEN I DO

11:11:48AM MEET.

11:11:49AM I SHOULD POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

11:11:52AM NUMBER ONE, THE PROBLEM WITH NEXT DOOR, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THE

11:11:55AM ABILITY TO POST SOMETHING THAT DEMAND A RESPONSE FROM A CITY

11:11:58AM COUNCIL MEMBER, SEE WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU MAY THINK THAT YOU

11:12:01AM ARE RESPONDING TO A CONSTITUENT BUT IF OTHER MEMBERS OF CITY

11:12:04AM COUNCIL ARE ON THE BOARD ABOUT SOMETHING FORESEEABLE THAT

11:12:07AM CAN COME BEFORE YOU, YOU ARE ACTUALLY IN A POSITION WHERE

11:12:10AM YOU ARE COMMUNICATING A POSITION THAT IS NOT OPEN TO THE

11:12:13AM GENERAL PUBLIC.

11:12:13AM SO I WOULD CAUTION YOU AGAINST RESPONDING.

11:12:16AM YOU CAN ALWAYS GIVE THEM, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY CITY

11:12:19AM OFFICE, CONTACT ME AT MY CITY E-MAIL ADDRESS AND THE LIKE,

11:12:23AM BUT TO NOT COMMUNICATE, TO RESPOND.

11:12:25AM IF YOU'RE ON NEXT DOOR AND -- EVEN ON Facebook, AND WE CAN

11:12:29AM HAVE A WORKSHOP OR A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING DOWN THE

11:12:32AM ROAD.

11:12:32AM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY TIME.
11:12:35AM BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, FOR

11:12:38AM INSTANCE, A Facebook PAGE, THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO RESPOND,

11:12:43AM HOW YOU RESPOND, IF YOU RESPOND BACK TO THAT CAN AFFECT THE

11:12:47AM SUNSHINE LAW AND HOW YOU REACT TO THEM CAN AFFECT THE FIRST

11:12:51AM AMENDMENT RIGHTS, FEDERAL LAW, SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY

11:12:55AM CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT.

11:12:55AM I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.

11:12:59AM I WILL, MR. CHAIRMAN, REPORT BACK TO YOU PERSONALLY AS A

11:13:02AM RESULT OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO

11:13:05AM BE ADDRESSED.

11:13:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.

11:13:07AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:13:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THE FLIP SIDE, JUST A

11:13:11AM LITTLE BIT, COUNCIL HAS NOTICED, YOU TALK ABOUT

11:13:14AM COMMUNICATIONS, YOU'LL MEET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TODAY,

11:13:17AM WHEN THERE ARE INSTANCES THAT OCCUR IN THE CITY, MAJOR

11:13:19AM INCIDENTS, COUNCIL IS NOT AWARE OF IT.

11:13:22AM I HAD MAJOR FIRES IN MY DISTRICT.

11:13:24AM I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL HAD THE MORNING.

11:13:26AM NO NOTIFICATION.

11:13:27AM A COUPLE OF SHOOTINGS WE HAD LAST WEEK, COUNCIL WAS IN

11:13:32AM SESSION, AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN ACTIVE SHOOTER AT ONE OF

11:13:34AM THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND COUNCIL WAS HEARING IT ON Facebook

11:13:37AM AND WE HAD NO NOTIFICATION FROM CITY STAFF.

11:13:40AM FINALLY I CALLED THE MAJOR OF DISTRICT 3 AND ASKED IF WE
11:13:43AM HAVE AN ACTIVE SHOOTER.

11:13:44AM HE SAID, NO, THERE WAS JUST GUNFIRE IN THE AREA BY THE

11:13:47AM SCHOOL.

11:13:47AM WE HAD CONSTITUENTS CALLING, ASKING QUESTIONS.

11:13:49AM I JUST THINK THAT WHEN THERE ARE INCIDENTS IN THE CITY, THAT

11:13:53AM CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE IT IS OUR DISTRICT.

11:13:54AM WE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF MAJOR INCIDENTS THAT GO ON WITHIN

11:13:58AM THE CITY.

11:13:59AM WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE INVESTIGATORIAL NATURE OF IT, BUT

11:14:05AM AT LEAST TO KNOW SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.

11:14:07AM I THINK IF WE CAN BRING THAT UP TO ADMINISTRATION THAT

11:14:07AM SOMEHOW -- I KNOW THERE ARE OFFICES IN PLACE NOW THAT STAFF

11:14:11AM IS ALERTED AND NOTIFIED OF INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN.

11:14:12AM I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE ALERTED AS WELL.

11:14:16AM IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

11:14:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, I WILL.

11:14:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, I THINK THE SUMMARY OF WHAT YOU'RE

11:14:21AM SAYING IS WE'RE PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO SET UP ACTS ON ANY

11:14:26AM PLATFORM AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW THE RULES.

11:14:28AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN'T DO, BUT THERE ARE THINGS

11:14:31AM WE CAN DO.

11:14:32AM LIKE THERE IS AN EVENT COMING UP APRIL 23rd ON BAYSHORE.

11:14:35AM WE'RE PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO POST THAT WHEREVER TO SAY COME

11:14:38AM TO THIS EVENT.

11:14:39AM WE JUST CAN'T POST AN OPINION ABOUT IT.
11:14:42AM IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US AND FOR AIDES I THINK IF YOU GAVE

11:14:46AM US A ONE OR TWO SHEET WITH A QUALIFIER IT'S NOT

11:14:54AM COMPREHENSIVE BUT HERE ARE THE DOS AND DON'TS ON WHAT YOU

11:14:57AM CAN DO AND CAN'T DO.

11:15:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU DON'T WANT TO LEARN WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T

11:15:04AM DO IN RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

11:15:06AM AM I RIGHT?

11:15:08AM THANK YOU.

11:15:08AM THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY, FOR THAT.

11:15:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT RECEIVED AND FILED?

11:15:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

11:15:19AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:15:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:15:22AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:15:23AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:15:23AM NEXT, 76, MR. BAIRD.

11:15:32AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL AND CHAIRMAN.

11:15:37AM BRAD BAIRD, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR.

11:15:39AM IF I COULD GET THE FOLKS IN THE BACK TO PULL UP THE

11:15:43AM PowerPoint PRESENTATION.

11:15:45AM I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE MCKAY

11:15:50AM BAY REFUSE-TO-ENERGY FACILITY TRANSITION FROM PRIVATE,

11:15:57AM CURRENTLY BEING OPERATED BY WHEELABRATOR.

11:16:01AM AND TO CITY OPERATIONS OR PUBLIC OPERATIONS.

11:16:05AM THIS WOULD BE ONLY THE SECOND ONE THAT HAS MADE THIS
11:16:09AM TRANSITION IN THE UNITED STATES, AT LEAST OF THIS SIZE.

11:16:15AM SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TIMES FOR US, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING

11:16:21AM HARD.

11:16:21AM SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION AND

11:16:24AM SOLID WASTE STAFF IN PARTICULAR.

11:16:25AM FIRST, IF I COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND GO THROUGH A

11:16:35AM HISTORY QUICKLY.

11:16:36AM THE DEPARTMENT WAS FORMED IN 1927.

11:16:39AM SO APPROACHING A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

11:16:44AM IT WAS CALLED THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT BACK IN THOSE DAYS.

11:16:48AM 1967, THE INCINERATOR WAS BUILT FOR DISPOSAL OF OUR GARBAGE.

11:16:53AM IT DID NOT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY BACK IN THOSE DAYS.

11:16:56AM BUT FAST-FORWARD TO 1979, THE INCINERATOR WAS CLOSED BECAUSE

11:17:00AM IT COULD NOT MEET AIR REGULATIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE --

11:17:05AM FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE BY EPA.

11:17:08AM SO WE WENT DOWN THE ROAD TO PLAN, DESIGN, AND BUILD A

11:17:14AM REFUSE-TO-ENERGY FACILITY AND TO PRODUCE ELECTRICITY.

11:17:21AM WE BEGAN OPERATIONS IN 1985, AND WASTE MANAGEMENT OPERATED

11:17:29AM THE PLANT UNTIL ABOUT 1999 WHEN WHEELABRATOR TOOK OVER.

11:17:38AM DURING THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAD ADDITIONAL OR WE HAD A

11:17:40AM RETROFIT OF THAT FACILITY TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL AIR POLLUTION

11:17:45AM EQUIPMENT TO THE TUNE OF $80 MILLION.

11:17:47AM AND THEN THEY OPERATED THE FACILITY AND ARE CURRENTLY

11:17:51AM OPERATING THE FACILITY, BUT HOWEVER, IN 2014, THEY WERE SOLD

11:17:57AM TO ECP, OR ENERGY CAPITAL PARTNERS, AND THEN AGAIN IN 2019,
11:18:03AM LAST YEAR, TO MACQUARIE INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT.

11:18:11AM AT THAT POINT, WE STARTED LOOKING AT OPTIONS IN TERMS OF

11:18:16AM OPERATION.

11:18:16AM BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW BEFORE I GET INTO THOSE

11:18:22AM THREE OPTIONS WE LOOKED AT, THE CURRENT FACILITY COMMITMENTS

11:18:27AM AND CONDITIONS, WE HAVE IN THE CONTRACT NOW THESE BULLETS

11:18:34AM THAT YOU SEE.

11:18:35AM I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT SLIDE UP THERE, WHERE WE HAVE A

11:18:39AM CPI OR A CONSUMER PRICE INDEX INCREASE ANNUALLY OF 3%.

11:18:46AM BOND PAYMENTS ARE 14 MILLION APPROXIMATELY, AND IN 2021.

11:18:54AM WE HAVE AN ANNUAL MINIMUM GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE TO PROCESS

11:18:58AM THROUGH THAT PLAN OF 260,000 TONS.

11:19:03AM BUT CURRENTLY, THE FACILITY IS OPERATING AT CAPACITY AT

11:19:06AM ABOUT 310,000 TONS.

11:19:09AM AGING EQUIPMENT IS AN ISSUE OUT THERE.

11:19:15AM I THINK I WENT THROUGH SOME OF THAT LAST TIME WHEN I WAS IN

11:19:19AM FRONT OF COUNCIL, BUT IN PARTICULAR, ON THE PICTURE ON THE

11:19:23AM RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE SHOWN IN RED, WE HAVE THE COOLING TOWER,

11:19:28AM THE TACK, THE TURBINE ISLAND AND THE ASH PROCESSING BUILDING

11:19:33AM ARE ALL APPROACHING OR AT OR BEYOND THEIR USEFUL LIFE.

11:19:39AM WE HAVE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN PARTICULAR

11:19:45AM INCREASED DOWNTIME, EQUIPMENT DOWNTIME AND MAINTENANCE DUE

11:19:49AM TO THE AGING EQUIPMENT.

11:19:50AM AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPERATING COMPANY, OR WHEELABRATOR, HAS

11:19:57AM LIMITED ABILITY, AND ARE NOT REQUIRED, FRANKLY, BY CONTRACT
11:20:03AM FOR LARGE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN THE PLANT.

11:20:07AM THEY DO INVEST IN SOME HEAVY MAINTENANCE, BUT PROBABLY NOT

11:20:14AM ENOUGH FOR A FACILITY OF THIS AGE.

11:20:20AM SO WE STARTED DOWN THE ROAD OF LOOKING AT WHAT OUR OPTIONS,

11:20:24AM WHERE OUR PRIMARY OPTIONS.

11:20:26AM WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT MORE THAN THREE, BUT THE PRIMARY THREE

11:20:29AM WERE TO REBID THE EXISTING AGREEMENT, AND THAT HAS SOME PROS

11:20:34AM AND CONS, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THAT THE PRIMARY CON IS

11:20:37AM THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT OPERATE

11:20:43AM WASTE-TO-ENERGY PLANTS.

11:20:44AM WHEELABRATOR AND COVANTA.

11:20:48AM THAT LIMITED COMPETITION WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN HIGHER FEES.

11:20:51AM WE CAN DECOMMISSION THE FACILITY AND CONVERT TO A LANDFILL.

11:20:56AM I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE OR PROPER

11:21:00AM APPROACH TO OUR DISPOSAL.

11:21:04AM AND THEN OUR THIRD OPTION WAS TO TERMINATE THE EXISTING

11:21:09AM AGREEMENT AND TRANSITION TO OPERATING CITY STAFF, WHERE WE

11:21:17AM WOULD HAVE MORE CONTROL OF OPERATIONS, A LOT MORE

11:21:21AM FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE CAPITAL

11:21:25AM IMPROVEMENTS.

11:21:26AM NOW, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO -- OR WE WOULD NEED TO INVEST

11:21:34AM OVER TIME IN THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, SO WE MAY HAVE TO

11:21:38AM BE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT PLAN MOVING FORWARD.

11:21:42AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE ASSUME ALL RISKS AT THE FACILITY.

11:21:48AM THE CITY DOES.
11:21:49AM BUT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, WHEN WE WOULD HAVE SAVINGS IN THE

11:21:58AM OPERATIONS, THE FIRST BULLET ON THE BOTTOM UNDER OPTION

11:22:03AM THREE, THOSE SAVINGS COULD BE DIRECTLY REINVESTED IN THAT

11:22:06AM PLANT.

11:22:07AM THAT WAS THE BIGGEST PLUS.

11:22:08AM BUT GAINING CONTROL OF THAT PROJECT PLANNING AND THE

11:22:11AM IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE IS IMPORTANT, AND THEN WE WOULD

11:22:15AM RECEIVE ALL THE ELECTRICAL ENERGY REVENUES.

11:22:18AM CURRENTLY, WE HAVE TO PAY PER CONTRACT 10% OF THAT TO

11:22:22AM WHEELABRATOR.

11:22:23AM SO IT WAS, AT THAT POINT, BASICALLY A GOOD BUSINESS DECISION

11:22:31AM TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.

11:22:33AM I WILL GET INTO THE SCHEDULE TOWARD THE END OF THE

11:22:36AM PRESENTATION.

11:22:36AM THE TRANSITION PLAN WAS DEVELOPED AND INITIATED SEPTEMBER OF

11:22:45AM LAST YEAR.

11:22:46AM WE FINISHED IT.

11:22:48AM WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THAT PLAN FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A

11:22:51AM HALF.

11:22:53AM THE TRANSITION COMPLETION CURRENTLY WITH OUR ARRANGEMENT

11:22:58AM WITH WHEELABRATOR HAS A DROP-DEAD DATE OF JUNE 3rd.

11:23:03AM THAT MAY BE ADJUSTED BACK TO END OF MAY OR JUNE 1st

11:23:11AM BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH

11:23:14AM INSURANCE AND TRANSFER AND MAKING SURE THOSE EMPLOYEES HAVE

11:23:19AM INSURANCE COVERAGE DURING THIS TRANSITION PERIOD.
11:23:22AM THAT TAKES ME RIGHT INTO OUR CRITICAL PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH

11:23:31AM THOSE FOUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US THROUGH

11:23:34AM THIS TRANSITION DEVELOPMENT AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US IN

11:23:38AM WORKING GROUPS THAT WE HOLD ON A REGULAR BASIS TO RESOLVE

11:23:44AM THOSE ISSUES.

11:23:46AM THE KEY CHALLENGES, FIRST, WE HAD TO CREATE 50 NEW CITY

11:23:51AM POSITIONS IN THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, AND ONE OR TWO IN

11:23:58AM SOME OF THOSE SUPPORT DEPARTMENTS.

11:24:01AM FOR INSTANCE, THE PURCHASING OR PROCUREMENT SPECIALIST WILL

11:24:05AM RESIDE WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, BUT WILL BE EMBEDDED

11:24:09AM OUT OF THE PLANT.

11:24:10AM MUCH LIKE WE DO IN SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

11:24:13AM HIRING THE EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE STARTED THAT PROCESS, THE

11:24:18AM HIRING PROCESS.

11:24:20AM STARTED LAST WEEK WITH THE PLANT MANAGER.

11:24:25AM RECRUITING QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.

11:24:28AM IT'S A VERY LIMITED INDUSTRY.

11:24:30AM YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PLANTS LIKE

11:24:34AM WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

11:24:38AM I BELIEVE THE TOTAL IS LESS THAN 50 PLANTS.

11:24:42AM IT'S MUCH MORE LIMITED POOL.

11:24:45AM THEN OBTAINING THAT TRANSITION BUDGET APPROVAL, WHICH IS THE

11:24:50AM NEXT ACTION THAT WE WILL ASK OF CITY COUNCIL.

11:24:52AM THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU IN ONE OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS

11:24:56AM NEXT MONTH.
11:24:57AM SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.

11:24:59AM PROCUREMENT OF THE FACILITY, GOODS AND SERVICES, OF COURSE,

11:25:04AM AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT ON ALL

11:25:08AM THOSE CONTRACTS, AND WHICH ONES ARE ASSIGNABLE, WHICH ONES

11:25:12AM ARE NOT, AND TRYING TO DEVELOP A SCOPE OF WORK, AND WHICH

11:25:20AM ONES WE WOULD NEED TO DO IN THE INTERIM ON AN EMERGENCY OR

11:25:25AM SINGLE-SOURCE BASIS.

11:25:26AM AND INCORPORATING THE WASTE TO ENERGY BUSINESS PRACTICES

11:25:32AM INTO CITY CULTURE, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

11:25:35AM THE WASTE-TO-ENERGY BUSINESS ALL WORKS ON 12-HOUR SHIFTS.

11:25:40AM EVERY SINGLE PLANT IN THE U.S. WORKS ON THAT BASIS.

11:25:46AM WE DO THAT ON A VERY LIMITED BASIS HERE IN THE CITY.

11:25:50AM WE HAVE EIGHT-HOUR SHIFTS AT WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANT WITH

11:25:52AM THE EXCEPTION OF WASTEWATER ON THE WEEKEND.

11:25:55AM SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THIS INDUSTRY

11:25:59AM THAT WE WILL NEED TO INCORPORATE INTO THE CITY CULTURE.

11:26:04AM ABOUT EVERY SEVEN YEARS, WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE A WASTE TO

11:26:09AM ENERGY PLANT NEEDS TO DO AN OVERHAUL OF THE TURBINE

11:26:14AM GENERATOR THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN OUTAGE PERIOD WHERE

11:26:18AM WE CANNOT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY IN THE PLANT.

11:26:21AM WE CAN PROCESS WASTE, BUT WE CANNOT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY

11:26:24AM WITHOUT THE GENERATOR.

11:26:25AM THAT'S COMING UP.

11:26:27AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, TERMINATION -- THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH

11:26:31AM WHEELABRATOR, THEY ARE ONGOING.
11:26:32AM OUR NEXT SESSION IS NEXT WEEK.

11:26:34AM IT'S TWO DAYS LONG, TWO FULL DAYS.

11:26:38AM AND THEN FINALLY, DEVELOPING A NEW EMPLOYEE TRAINING PROGRAM

11:26:43AM IS PARAMOUNT TO THE SUCCESS.

11:26:45AM I REALIZE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO READ THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART

11:26:53AM THERE.

11:26:54AM THAT IS THE 50 EMPLOYEES WITH THE DIRECTOR, MARK WILFALK AT

11:26:58AM THE TOP THERE.

11:27:00AM AND THEN THE SECOND ONE DOWN IS WASTE-TO-ENERGY PLANT

11:27:06AM MANAGER.

11:27:06AM AND THE SALARY OF THAT MANAGER AND RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE

11:27:11AM IN LINE WITH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANT MANAGERS.

11:27:15AM SO NOW WE WILL HAVE THREE PLANTS THAT WE OPERATE AND

11:27:19AM MAINTAIN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

11:27:21AM THE POSITIONS SHOWN IN BROWN ARE OPERATIONS POSITIONS.

11:27:28AM ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE AND THEN THE ONES ON THE LEFT SHOWN

11:27:31AM IN BLUE ARE MAINTENANCE POSITIONS.

11:27:34AM AND THE OPERATIONS, THE PLANT WILL BE OPERATED WITH FOUR

11:27:43AM SHIFTS AND IT WILL BE OPERATED 24/7/365.

11:27:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY INQUIRE FOR PURPOSES OF TIME, HOW

11:27:51AM MUCH LONGER DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION?

11:27:52AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE.

11:27:55AM THE NEXT SLIDE IS A QUESTION SLIDE.

11:27:57AM REAL QUICKLY, I'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THE

11:28:01AM TIMELINE, BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, WE STARTED INTERVIEWS
11:28:04AM THIS MONTHLY.

11:28:07AM WE, AS I SAID, THE PLANT BUDGET WILL COME BEFORE YOU NEXT

11:28:10AM MONTH.

11:28:11AM WE'LL BE IN NEGOTIATIONS FROM NOW THROUGH -- ACTUALLY, WE

11:28:18AM STARTED LATE LAST YEAR, BUT NOW THROUGH JUNE, AND WE'LL TAKE

11:28:22AM OVER OPERATIONS END OF MAY, BEGINNING OF JUNE, AND THAT

11:28:30AM WRAPS UP MY PRESENTATION.

11:28:31AM I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

11:28:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:28:34AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:28:34AM GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:28:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD.

11:28:40AM MARK AND YOUR TEAM FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, I SEE IT IS A BIG

11:28:44AM TEAM EFFORT ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY.

11:28:46AM WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:28:47AM LET'S SPEED DATE THROUGH SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.

11:28:51AM ULTIMATELY -- AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST BROUGHT THIS TO

11:28:54AM US -- YOU SAID WE WOULD TRY TO KEEP AS MANY OF THE EMPLOYEES

11:28:57AM AS POSSIBLE.

11:28:59AM HOW'S THAT SHAKING OUT AND WHAT DO WE PROJECT IN TERMS OF

11:29:02AM THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE FOR A SMOOTHER TRANSITION, I

11:29:06AM WOULD ASSUME?

11:29:09AM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, GOOD QUESTION.

11:29:10AM THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.

11:29:14AM SPOKANE, WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH IT, THEY WERE ABLE TO KEEP
11:29:15AM ALL BUT THREE.

11:29:16AM WE'RE HOPING TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS THEY WERE.

11:29:18AM WE MET WITH THEM FIRST THING WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THIS AND PUT

11:29:21AM THEM ON NOTICE LAST OCTOBER.

11:29:22AM WE MET WITH ALL THE EMPLOYEES.

11:29:24AM MARK AND I DID PERSONALLY.

11:29:29AM THE INDICATIONS WE'RE GETTING ARE THEY ARE EXCITED.

11:29:33AM THEY WANT TO COME ON BOARD WITH THE CITY, SO WE'RE HOPING TO

11:29:37AM BRING ALMOST ALL OF THEM, IF NOT ALL OF THEM ON BOARD.

11:29:40AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAND IN HAND WITH THAT, ORIGINALLY, I

11:29:43AM HEARD THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE ATU UNION, IS THAT WHERE

11:29:47AM WE'RE HEADED WITH THIS?

11:29:48AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT.

11:29:49AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXCEPT I GUESS THE MOST SENIOR MANAGEMENT

11:29:52AM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

11:29:53AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT.

11:29:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WHEN THE PLANT IS

11:29:58AM OPERATING TO ITS FULLEST CAPACITY, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR

11:30:01AM WASTE STREAM WOULD RUN THROUGH THE PLANT?

11:30:08AM I MEAN, 100%.

11:30:10AM >>BRAD BAIRD: YEAH, 100% IDEALLY.

11:30:12AM NOW, SOMETIMES YOU WILL HAVE ISSUES WITH --

11:30:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE PROBABLY DON'T BURN TIRES OR CONCRETE.

11:30:21AM >>BRAD BAIRD: -- ISSUES YOU HAVE TO DIVERT.

11:30:23AM RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE HAVE TO DIVERT TO A LANDFILL, OF COURSE,
11:30:26AM THERE'S A PENALTY TO WHEELABRATOR.

11:30:28AM OUR GOAL WILL BE TO GET THIS FACILITY BACK UP TO WHERE IT

11:30:33AM WAS 20 YEARS AGO AND HANDLE 100% OF OUR WASTE.

11:30:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, AND THAT LED TO MY NEXT QUESTION.

11:30:41AM THE FACILITIES TO THE RIGHT IN RED, I GUESS MARK WAS OUT

11:30:45AM THERE PAINTING THOSE BUILDINGS RED, BUT HOW LONG -- I MEAN,

11:30:51AM YOU SAID THEY REACHED THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE BUT WE'RE

11:30:55AM NOT KNOCKING DOWN SMOKESTACKS OR ANYTHING, WE JUST HAVE TO

11:30:59AM REBUILD THEM.

11:31:02AM >>BRAD BAIRD: REBUILD THEM.

11:31:03AM THE COOLING TOWER WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION.

11:31:04AM WE'D HAVE TO BUILD A NEW COOLING TOWER.

11:31:06AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT THE TALLEST ONE?

11:31:07AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT WAS THE ONE IN THE FRONT.

11:31:09AM THE TALLEST ONE WAS THE STACK.

11:31:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE DON'T HAVE TO BE DOWN WHEN WE DO THAT.

11:31:18AM WE USE THE OLD ONE UNTIL WE SHIFT OVER TO THE NEW ONE.

11:31:22AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.

11:31:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

11:31:24AM GOOD.

11:31:24AM HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY DOLLAR-WISE DOES THIS THING GENERATE

11:31:31AM FOR THE COMMUNITY?

11:31:34AM HAND IN HAND WITH THAT QUESTION --

11:31:37AM >>BRAD BAIRD: 9 MILLION A YEAR.

11:31:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREAT.
11:31:40AM HAND IN HAND WITH THAT QUESTION, I'VE HEARD SOME GRUMBLING

11:31:44AM FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY THAT THIS -- BURNING ISN'T

11:31:48AM THE GREATEST THING IN TERMS OF GREEN ENERGY AND OUR GLOBAL

11:31:54AM WARMING ISSUES AND THAT SORT OF THING.

11:31:56AM BUT THEN AGAIN, LANDFILLS AREN'T THE GREATEST THING FOR

11:32:00AM OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

11:32:01AM HOW DO WE BALANCE THE TWO?

11:32:03AM >>BRAD BAIRD: I WILL TELL YOU, IT IS CALLED A TITLE 5

11:32:07AM PERMIT.

11:32:08AM IT IS OUR AIR PERMIT.

11:32:09AM VERY STRICT EMISSION STANDARDS.

11:32:11AM WE COMPLY WITH THOSE STANDARDS, AND ARE DILIGENT ABOUT

11:32:18AM COMPLYING AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE.

11:32:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DON'T GET ME WRONG.

11:32:22AM I DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBT THAT WE COMPLY WITH EPA STANDARDS.

11:32:25AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THEY ARE VERY LOW.

11:32:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- AND STATE STANDARDS, BUT THERE ARE

11:32:29AM STILL CARBON EMISSIONS THAT YOU CAN'T GET RID OF BECAUSE

11:32:33AM THAT'S THE NATURE OF BURNING.

11:32:34AM >>BRAD BAIRD: UM-HUM.

11:32:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE WE EVALUATED WHAT IS OUR CARBON

11:32:39AM OUTPUT THERE AND HOW THAT RELATES TO LANDFILLS AND THAT SORT

11:32:43AM OF THING?

11:32:44AM OR IS THAT -- WHAT HAVE WE DONE ON THAT?

11:32:47AM >>BRAD BAIRD: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A SPECIFIC
11:32:49AM EVALUATION OF WHAT THE CARBON EMISSIONS ARE.

11:32:53AM WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT, AND WE KNOW THAT.

11:32:56AM OUR ENGINEER OF RECORD I'M SURE COULD PROVIDE THAT

11:32:59AM INFORMATION.

11:33:00AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THE NEXT TIME YOU COME IN WITH A

11:33:02AM REPORT I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

11:33:04AM AND THE FACT THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE MORE CHILDREN THAN ANY

11:33:07AM OF US, YOU SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED.

11:33:10AM [ LAUGHTER ]

11:33:11AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

11:33:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY LAST QUESTION, WHAT DOES SELF-WHEELING

11:33:18AM MEAN?

11:33:19AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE ELECTRICITY WE

11:33:22AM PRODUCE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE TO POWER OUR FACILITIES OR

11:33:27AM POSSIBLY SEND DOWN TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT TO USE THERE.

11:33:31AM IN OTHER WORDS, PRODUCE ELECTRICITY AND USE IT WITHIN THE

11:33:36AM CITY.

11:33:36AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO TECO, UNDER TECO AND THE PUBLIC

11:33:40AM SERVICE COMMISSION RULES, WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT SORT OF

11:33:43AM THING?

11:33:44AM >>BRAD BAIRD: IT GETS TRICKY AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GET

11:33:49AM APPROVALS TO DO THAT.

11:33:50AM AND WE DO NOT SELL TO TECO IN THIS CASE.

11:33:52AM WE SELL TO SEMINOLE ELECTRIC.

11:33:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THAT IS.
11:34:00AM THANK YOU.

11:34:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

11:34:03AM THANK YOU, SIR.

11:34:04AM ITEM 77, IT APPEARS TO BE JUST TRANSMISSION FOR APPROVAL.

11:34:08AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.

11:34:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:34:12AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:34:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:34:15AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:34:19AM OKAY.

11:34:19AM NOW WE MOVE --

11:34:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOING BACK TO 75, I READ THE MARKETING

11:34:29AM AND COMMUNICATION DIRECTORS -- DIRECTOR'S REPORT ON THE

11:34:35AM ISSUE, THE ISSUE I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP.

11:34:37AM I THINK WHAT I HEARD WAS, WELL, WE WILL BE THE CENTER OF

11:34:42AM COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE CITY AND GO THROUGH US.

11:34:47AM IT'S ALL SORT OF FINE AND GOOD.

11:34:49AM I'M WONDERING AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY

11:34:53AM PERHAPS ON CRA ISSUES AS WELL AS SOME OTHER ISSUES MIGHT

11:34:58AM WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT HOW WE COMMUNICATE, BECAUSE

11:35:03AM SOMETIMES OUR COMMUNICATION MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN

11:35:07AM THE ADMINISTRATION'S COMMUNICATION.

11:35:08AM SO NOTHING TO DEAL WITH TODAY, BUT I WANTED TO PERHAPS

11:35:12AM REINFORCE MAYBE A LITTLE OF WHERE YOU WERE GOING.

11:35:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YEAH.
11:35:17AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:35:17AM I AGREE WITH THAT.

11:35:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BROUGHT THAT UP SEVERAL

11:35:20AM TIMES TO MS. BAUMAN AND TOLD THE CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT OUR

11:35:24AM WEBSITE.

11:35:25AM IT DOESN'T HELP COUNCIL AT ALL.

11:35:27AM IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON THE ADMINISTRATION.

11:35:29AM I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO WHERE COUNCIL, PEOPLE CAN

11:35:32AM COMMUNICATE WITH US BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REALLY ABLE TO.

11:35:34AM I'M HOPING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE CAN GET SOME COMMUNICATION

11:35:37AM IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITH COUNCIL.

11:35:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

11:35:43AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IN THAT I READ THE MEMO

11:35:46AM AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATION CENTRIC

11:35:50AM POSITION ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE NARRATIVE OF SPEAKING AND

11:35:54AM THE ADMINISTRATION SPEAKS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT EACH

11:35:56AM COUNCIL MEMBER SPEAKS FOR THAT OFFICE.

11:36:00AM WE ARE DULY ELECTED MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND I DID THIS NOT

11:36:04AM FOR PURPOSES OF OVERREACH, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF MERELY

11:36:07AM LETTING US USE THIS EFFECTIVE TOOL, IF USED PROPERLY AND

11:36:12AM LEGALLY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK THAT

11:36:15AM SOMETHING SHOULD BE SET UP FOR MEMBERS AND ALSO TO AVOID THE

11:36:19AM ENTANGLEMENTS WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU COULD HAVE A LOT

11:36:24AM OF CONFUSION THERE WITH CITYWIDES THEN GOING INTO A

11:36:28AM DISTRICT, ET CETERA.
11:36:29AM I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DO THINK THAT SOME MOVEMENT SHOULD

11:36:32AM BE MADE TOWARDS COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AT

11:36:35AM THE VERY LEAST WITHIN THEIR OWN DISTRICTS TO DIFFERENT

11:36:39AM NEIGHBORHOODS, TO ALLOW THAT VOICE TO BE HEARD AND TO THOSE

11:36:42AM NEIGHBORHOODS FOR NEXT DOOR.

11:36:45AM I THINK THAT'S COMMON SENSE.

11:36:46AM I KNOW, MR. SHELBY, YOU WOULD BE DISCUSSING THAT FURTHER.

11:36:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

11:36:52AM CASE LAW AND LEGAL LAWSUITS ARE EVOLVING ON THIS, AND

11:36:56AM THERE'S ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY RECENT LAWSUIT WHERE THE CITY

11:37:01AM HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE LIABLE AS A CITY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL

11:37:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER COMPLYING OR NOT COMPLYING WITH THE PUBLIC

11:37:09AM RECORDS LAW ON A PLATFORM THAT IS NOT CONTROLLED BY THE

11:37:13AM CITY.

11:37:14AM SO IN THAT SENSE, THERE SHOULD BE A DESIRE ON THE CITY TO BE

11:37:19AM ABLE TO TECHNOLOGICALLY PROVIDE FOR THAT, TO PROTECT THE

11:37:23AM CITY FROM LIABILITY.

11:37:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: IN A DECENTRALIZED METHOD BY WHICH WE DON'T

11:37:27AM HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO THROUGH THE CITY BUT THROUGH NEXT

11:37:30AM DOOR, AS DULY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS

11:37:33AM WHERE WE CAN EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS

11:37:36AM THROUGH THAT, NOT OFFICIALLY THROUGH THE CITY, THOUGH AGAIN,

11:37:40AM IF I COMMIT A, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, TORT, IT GOES WITH THE CITY.

11:37:45AM I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE WON'T BE DOING THAT.

11:37:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:53AM HAVE ITEMS 52 -- STRIKE THAT.

11:37:57AM I'M SORRY.

11:37:58AM HAVE ITEMS 52 THROUGH 56 BEEN SCHEDULED YET?

11:38:02AM >> YES.

11:38:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:38:04AM NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

11:38:05AM IF ANYONE IS HERE TO TESTIFY HERE TODAY OR SPEAK ON A PUBLIC

11:38:08AM HEARING, PLEASE STAND, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO, RAISE YOUR

11:38:11AM RIGHT HAND AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN.

11:38:14AM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]

11:38:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION

11:38:22AM TO OPEN ITEMS 57 THROUGH 62.

11:38:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:38:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:38:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?

11:38:30AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:38:30AM LET'S BEGIN WITH 57.

11:38:34AM BY THE WAY, WHILE YOU COME UP HERE, WE ARE APPROACHING THE

11:38:37AM LUNCH HOUR.

11:38:39AM I AM PERSONALLY FINE ON MY OWN BASIS GOING THROUGH.

11:38:45AM WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?

11:38:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TILL 12:30.

11:38:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I BELIEVE

11:38:54AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:38:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:38:57AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:39:02AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: BARBARA LYNCH, LAND DEVELOPMENT

11:39:04AM COORDINATION.

11:39:05AM VAC 20-03 IS A REQUEST TO VACATE AN ALLEY IN RIVERSIDE

11:39:10AM HEIGHTS.

11:39:10AM I HAVE A MAP FOR THE ELMO.

11:39:12AM THE PROPERTY IS IN RED AND THE ALLEY TO BE VACATED IS IN

11:39:23AM YELLOW.

11:39:24AM NORTH OF VIRGINIA AVENUE, SOUTH OF ORIENT AND RUNS BETWEEN

11:39:28AM OAKDALE AND RIDGE AVENUE.

11:39:31AM THIS IS A LITTLE BETTER PICTURE OF HOW IT WAS PLATTED.

11:39:35AM THE ALLEY IS HERE.

11:39:36AM THE PETITIONER'S PROPERTY IS IN GRAY, AND THERE ARE TWO

11:39:39AM OTHER OWNERS.

11:39:40AM I DID RECEIVE TODAY A LETTER FROM -- A LETTER FROM THE OWNER

11:39:52AM AT I THINK 1001 VIRGINIA, WHICH IS AT THIS LOCATION HERE IN

11:39:56AM SUPPORT OF THE VACATING.

11:39:59AM AND I KNOW THE OWNER TO THE NORTH WAS GOING TO COME, BUT

11:40:03AM SOMETHING HAPPENED.

11:40:04AM HE DIDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.

11:40:05AM HE WAS IN SUPPORT OF IT.

11:40:07AM I SAW THE TEXT MESSAGES FROM MY APPLICANTS.

11:40:11AM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM OAKDALE AVENUE.

11:40:16AM THIS IS THE ALLEY EAST FROM RIDGE AVENUE.

11:40:19AM IT IS UNIMPROVED.
11:40:21AM IT DOES HAVE A SEWER LINE, SPECTRUM, TECO AND FRONTIER.

11:40:26AM THIS IS THE PETITIONER'S PROPERTY LOOKING NORTHEAST FROM

11:40:29AM VIRGINIA AND RIDGE.

11:40:31AM AND THIS IS EAST FROM RIDGE AVENUE.

11:40:35AM THIS IS THE ALLEY THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OAKDALE.

11:40:40AM IT'S STILL OPEN.

11:40:41AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST, AND THEY DO NEED

11:40:45AM EASEMENTS FOR THE UTILITIES I MENTIONED.

11:40:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

11:40:53AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:40:54AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU PUT UP THE PLAT MAP LOOKING

11:41:03AM THING?

11:41:04AM AS WE CONTINUE TO THE EAST, WHAT IS THAT ALLEY ABOUT?

11:41:17AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THAT ALLEY IS OPEN.

11:41:18AM THAT'S THIS PICTURE HERE.

11:41:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT ALLEY IS OPENED AND USED?

11:41:22AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.

11:41:23AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN WE COME ACROSS THE STREET,

11:41:25AM WHATEVER THE STREET --

11:41:27AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: OAKDALE.

11:41:28AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OAKDALE.

11:41:29AM AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT ALLEY IS NOT USED.

11:41:32AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO.

11:41:33AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT FENCED -- PEOPLE ENCROACH WITH

11:41:36AM THEIR FENCES?
11:41:37AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO, NOT AT THIS POINT.

11:41:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE SIGNIFICANT TREES OR PROBLEMS?

11:41:42AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO, NOT THAT I SAW.

11:41:45AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF WOULDN'T

11:41:47AM HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS?

11:41:50AM I THOUGHT OUR INTENT CITYWIDE IS TRY AND KEEP OUR GRID OF

11:41:54AM ALLEYS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS.

11:41:58AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THAT'S TRUE.

11:41:59AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PLUS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION, MAYBE GO

11:42:04AM BACK.

11:42:05AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL UP OR NOT.

11:42:07AM YEAH, THAT ONE.

11:42:08AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: AND THEN THE ALLEY DOES NOT GO WEST.

11:42:12AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT DOESN'T GO FURTHER TO THE WEST, BUT

11:42:14AM CLEARLY YOU'VE GOT THAT COMING ACROSS FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

11:42:22AM I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

11:42:24AM WHAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PETITIONER?

11:42:26AM ARE THEY HERE?

11:42:27AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THEY ARE HERE.

11:42:28AM THEY WANT TO FENCE IT AND SECURE IT AND MAKE IT EASIER TO

11:42:31AM MAINTAIN.

11:42:32AM APPARENTLY ALL THE OPENERS ARE IN AGREEMENT.

11:42:33AM THERE'S ONLY THREE.

11:42:34AM AND IT'S A SHORT ALLEY.

11:42:36AM IT'S 160 FEET.
11:42:38AM I DON'T KNOW IT WOULD EVER BE IMPROVED.

11:42:40AM I DON'T THINK IT'S IN A PLANNING AREA WHERE THEY NECESSARILY

11:42:44AM WANT TO DEVELOP OFF THE ALLEY BECAUSE THERE ARE ALREADY

11:42:47AM EXISTING HOMES.

11:42:48AM THEN I DO HAVE A LITTLE MAP.

11:42:53AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN SOHO, WE HAD EXISTING HOMES.

11:42:56AM BECAUSE WE HAD THE ALLEYS, WHEN THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS CAME,

11:42:59AM IN EXISTING HOMES KNOCKED DOWN AND PUT IN THE QUAD

11:43:02AM MULTIFAMILIES.

11:43:03AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YEAH, THAT COULD HAPPEN.

11:43:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE ALLEY IS VERY USEFUL AND PRACTICAL.

11:43:06AM LIKE I SAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS.

11:43:09AM ONCE THE ALLEYS ARE GONE, THEY ARE GONE.

11:43:11AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: PLANNING DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

11:43:14AM THEY HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE VACATION.

11:43:16AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE THEY HERE TO SPEAK TO IT?

11:43:19AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I DON'T THINK SO.

11:43:20AM TYPICALLY WHEN THEY DON'T OBJECT, THEY DON'T SHOW UP.

11:43:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

11:43:33AM IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM 57?

11:43:36AM MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:43:40AM I'M SORRY.

11:43:41AM I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE HERE.

11:43:43AM COME FORWARD.

11:43:44AM MY APOLOGIES.
11:43:57AM >> I'M BRUCE McGREGOR.

11:44:01AM >> MARIA McGREGOR.

11:44:04AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T MEAN TO BE HOSTILE TO THIS, BUT

11:44:10AM I'M PRETTY CONSISTENT ON THIS, SO DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

11:44:14AM WHAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION THAT YOU WANT TO VACATE IT?

11:44:19AM HOW DID THIS GET STARTED?

11:44:23AM YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS IN AGREEMENT ON BOTH SIDES OF

11:44:26AM THE ALLEY.

11:44:28AM HELP ME OUT HERE.

11:44:33AM >> WE WERE GOING TO PUT IN A VINYL FENCE, AND WE WOULD LIKE

11:44:37AM TO MOVE IT OVER INTO THE MIDDLE AND MORE SECURITY.

11:44:42AM WE'VE HAD TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH THAT ALLEY A

11:44:45AM LITTLE BIT.

11:44:45AM MY NEIGHBOR, TOO.

11:44:48AM IT WOULD BE MORE SECURE IF WE HAD A BETTER FENCE.

11:44:53AM IT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE PROPERTY WE CAN USE WOULD BE

11:44:57AM OUR JUSTIFICATION IN IT.

11:45:01AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU SPECIFICALLY HAD DUMPING IN THE

11:45:05AM ALLEY?

11:45:06AM >> NO, NO.

11:45:07AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST MORE OF A SECURITY AND A LITTLE MORE

11:45:11AM PROPERTY.

11:45:11AM >> YES.

11:45:12AM AND ALL THREE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.

11:45:15AM IT WOULD BENEFIT ALL THREE OF US.
11:45:17AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

11:45:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

11:45:20AM ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY IN SUPPORT OF YOUR CASE, PETITIONER?

11:45:24AM OKAY.

11:45:27AM THANK YOU.

11:45:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:45:28AM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 57?

11:45:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:45:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:45:36AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:45:37AM ANY IN FAVOR?

11:45:40AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:45:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

11:45:42AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

11:45:44AM AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING

11:45:46AM A PORTION OF ALLEYWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF ORIENT

11:45:49AM STREET, NORTH OF VIRGINIA AVENUE, EAST OF RIDGE AVENUE AND

11:45:52AM WEST OF OAKDAVE -- IS IT OAKDAVE AVENUE?

11:45:57AM >> NO.

11:45:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- IN THE MAP OF NORTH RIVERSIDE, A

11:45:59AM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,

11:46:01AM FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1

11:46:04AM HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS,

11:46:07AM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH

11:46:09AM HEREIN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:46:15AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.

11:46:15AM MR. MANISCALCO, SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION, I'M A LITTLE

11:46:24AM SURPRISED BECAUSE YOU ARE THE KEEPER OF HISTORY ON THIS

11:46:26AM PANEL.

11:46:27AM I THINK THAT OUR ALLEYS HAVE THAT HISTORIC VALUE.

11:46:31AM I THINK THIS IS BAD PRECEDENT.

11:46:34AM I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE PROPERTY.

11:46:39AM THERE HASN'T BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF DEMONSTRATION, TPD OR SOLID

11:46:43AM WASTE OR DUMPING OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT

11:46:46AM THIS IS A PROBLEMATIC ALLEY.

11:46:48AM SOMETIMES THE ALLEYS ARE REALLY PROBLEMATIC AND WE SEE A LOT

11:46:51AM OF DUMPING BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN THE TESTIMONY.

11:46:54AM I'M WONDERING HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE PRECEDENT, THE BAD

11:46:57AM PRECEDENT THAT GRANTING THESE KIND OF WOULD START?

11:47:03AM I DON'T MEAN TO PICK ON YOU.

11:47:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.

11:47:06AM WE TAKE IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

11:47:08AM LOOKING AT THE MAP, IT IS AN ALMOST TRIANGULAR PIECE OF

11:47:11AM PROPERTY.

11:47:12AM IT'S NOT WITHIN A FULL CITY BLOCK OR A LARGER STRETCH.

11:47:15AM I'M LOOKING AT YOUR MAP THERE.

11:47:16AM IT'S UNIQUE.

11:47:17AM THEY WANT TO BETTER MAINTAIN THE ALLEY, WHICH IS LESS WORK

11:47:21AM FOR ANYONE IN THE CITY AND WHATNOT.

11:47:23AM THAT'S IT.
11:47:24AM BUT CONSIDERING THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, CONSIDERING

11:47:26AM THERE'S NO OBJECTION, AND THERE WAS EVEN A LETTER OF SUPPORT

11:47:29AM FROM ANOTHER NEIGHBOR, THAT'S MY BASIS FOR APPROVING IT.

11:47:33AM NOW, SETTING A PRECEDENT, I WOULD SAY NO.

11:47:36AM AGAIN, CONSIDERING THE SHAPE OF THIS PARCEL.

11:47:39AM IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.

11:47:40AM THE NEXT ONE DOWN, AS YOU SEE, LESS TRIANGULAR SHAPE BUT

11:47:46AM THERE ARE A LOT MORE PROPERTIES INVOLVED.

11:47:47AM THIS IS I THINK UNIQUE IN ITSELF.

11:47:49AM I DON'T THINK IT SETS A PRECEDENT.

11:47:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:47:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I'VE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT.

11:47:57AM I STATED I'M VERY AGAINST CLOSING ALLEYWAYS, MOST OF THE

11:48:02AM CONSTITUENTS I HEARD ABOUT ARE AGAINST IT IN GENERAL.

11:48:07AM IN THIS CASE, I DIDN'T HEAR A COMPELLING REASON TO DO IT.

11:48:09AM SO I WOULD -- UNLESS THERE'S SOME OVERWHELMING REASON, I'M

11:48:13AM ALWAYS GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THESE.

11:48:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:48:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUT THAT MAP BACK UP.

11:48:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN BY COUNCILMAN

11:48:25AM CITRO.

11:48:28AM IN ANY FAVOR?

11:48:31AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: WHICH ONE, THE PLAT?

11:48:33AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PLAT.

11:48:34AM THE DISTANCE OF THE OTHER ALLEY VERSUS WHAT WE'RE TALKING
11:48:36AM ABOUT.

11:48:37AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THIS IS THE ALLEY.

11:48:39AM AND THEN THE ALLEY THAT IS OPEN IS OVER HERE.

11:48:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU PUT IT ON OUR SCREENS RIGHT HERE?

11:48:44AM I DON'T THINK OUR MONITORS ARE WORKING.

11:48:46AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THIS IS THE ALLEY HERE.

11:48:50AM AND THE ALLEY DOES NOT CONTINUE TO THE WEST.

11:48:52AM IT DOES CONTINUE TO THE EAST.

11:48:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THE FAR NORTH, IS THAT TOTALLY CLOSED?

11:48:59AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I'M SORRY?

11:49:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE FAR NORTH OF THE ALLEY, THAT'S TOTALLY

11:49:03AM CLOSED, RIGHT?

11:49:05AM THERE'S NO CONTINUOUS NOTHING, RIGHT?

11:49:08AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THIS IS JUST GRASS HERE.

11:49:10AM THIS IS OPEN ON THIS SIDE.

11:49:15AM SO THAT ALLEY GOES DOWN THAT BLOCK.

11:49:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUT THE PHOTO UP ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE.

11:49:30AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THE PICTURE OF THE ALLEY ON --

THAT'S LOOKING EAST.

11:49:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

11:49:50AM THANK YOU.

11:49:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY EASEMENTS HERE?

11:49:53AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: YES.

11:49:54AM SEWER AND THEN THE OUTSIDE UTILITIES, TECO, FRONTIER,

11:49:57AM SPECTRUM.
11:49:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT USED BY SOLID WASTE ANYMORE?

11:50:02AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: NO.

11:50:03AM NO TRASH PICKUP.

11:50:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE?

11:50:06AM MOTION TO CLOSE?

11:50:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.

11:50:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M OKAY ON CLOSING.

11:50:13AM WELL, I'M NOT SURE.

11:50:14AM I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION, DEPENDING ON

11:50:21AM HOW THE MAKER FEELS ABOUT IT.

11:50:23AM I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE PLANNING STAFF -- IF PLANNERS ARE

11:50:29AM REVIEWING THIS AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT, I'D

11:50:32AM LOVE TO HAVE THEM HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AND TO

11:50:35AM TALK ABOUT PERHAPS THE BIGGER PICTURE, BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS

11:50:39AM UNDER THE NOTION THAT THE CITY CARES ABOUT ITS ALLEYS, CITY

11:50:46AM PROPERTY, PUBLIC PROPERTY, AND THAT WE CAUTIOUSLY VACATE IT.

11:50:51AM I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE COULDN'T PERHAPS INSTEAD OF

11:50:55AM APPROVING IT OR DENYING IT TODAY, IF WE COULDN'T JUST DEFER

11:51:00AM IT AND CONTINUE IT FOR X NUMBER OF WEEKS AND HAVE PLANNING

11:51:04AM STAFF COME AND SPEAK TO IT.

11:51:09AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I KNOW THESE PEOPLE SOMETIMES TRAVEL.

11:51:11AM LET ME SEE WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

11:51:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WAS AMENABLE TO THAT.

11:51:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, COUNCIL, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE

11:51:23AM IS YOUR CRITERIA IS PRETTY CLEAR.
11:51:30AM YOU COULD ASK LEGAL ABOUT THE CRITERIA, AND I CAN GO BACK TO

11:51:35AM THE MEMO OF WHAT CONSTITUTES THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL

11:51:39AM EVIDENCE OR THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON.

11:51:47AM CONTINUING THIS FOR A POLICY DISCUSSION FROM THE PLANNING

11:51:51AM STAFF I DON'T BELIEVE WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DO

11:51:53AM THIS.

11:51:54AM IF YOU DO NOT -- IF STAFF -- IF COUNCIL BASED ON THE STAFF

11:51:59AM REPORT AND BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'VE HEARD DOES NOT

11:52:03AM FEEL THAT THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET, THEN YOU ACT

11:52:05AM ACCORDINGLY.

11:52:06AM IF YOU FEEL THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET, THEN YOU ACT

11:52:08AM ACCORDINGLY.

11:52:09AM FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU WISH TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING

11:52:11AM ABOUT THAT OUTSIDE THE HEARING BECAUSE THIS IS RELATIVE TO

11:52:13AM THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL AND PROPERTY RIGHT, IF IT'S GRANTED.

11:52:20AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

11:52:22AM PERHAPS I FRAMED IT IN TOO LARGE OF A MANNER.

11:52:25AM BUT SPECIFICALLY, WE RELY ON STAFF REPORTS TO MAKE OUR

11:52:30AM DECISION.

11:52:31AM I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

11:52:32AM ONE OF THE STAFF REPORTS THAT I'M LOOKING ON THEIR LIST, YOU

11:52:35AM KNOW, IS THE ZONING STAFF AND THEN THE URBAN DESIGN STAFF

11:52:42AM AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF, ET CETERA.

11:52:45AM I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAY, CAN YOU

11:52:49AM COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR DECISION AS RELATED TO THIS
11:52:53AM PARTICULAR ITEM.

11:52:54AM SO I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION, AND I'LL CLARIFY THAT

11:52:57AM THAT'S THE INTENT OF MY MOTION IS TO ASK THEM TO COME AND

11:53:04AM TALK TO US AND ELABORATE AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY

11:53:08AM THEY CAME TO THAT DECISION OF NO OBJECTION.

11:53:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE HEAR FROM ANYONE, COUNCILMAN

11:53:13AM CARLSON.

11:53:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT ONE ALTERNATIVE WOULD

11:53:18AM BE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS ONE AND MAYBE AT THE

11:53:21AM END YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF REPORT ON POLICIES

11:53:24AM AND STRATEGIES FOR ALLEYWAYS.

11:53:26AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE BIGGER PICTURE, YES, AND I'LL

11:53:29AM DEFER THAT BECAUSE MR. SHELBY INDICATES -- BIG-PICTURE IS --

11:53:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL SECOND THAT IF YOU DO IT LATER.

11:53:38AM >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

11:53:40AM I WANT TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN

11:53:42AM THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS, IT IS THE APPLICANT'S BURDEN TO

11:53:45AM PROVE THAT THEY MET IT.

11:53:46AM CITY COUNCIL MAY FIND THAT THEY'D LIKE ADDITIONAL

11:53:48AM INFORMATION BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU.

11:53:50AM THE QUESTION IS, DID THE APPLICANT MEET THEIR BURDEN.

11:53:53AM IF THEY DIDN'T MEET THEIR BURDEN, YOU MAY SUGGEST THAT THEY

11:53:56AM WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ADDITIONAL

11:53:58AM INFORMATION, BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO

11:54:01AM ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO
11:54:05AM MOVE FORWARD.

11:54:05AM BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS, DID THEY MEET THEIR BURDEN OR NOT?

11:54:10AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, AND I KIND OF AS A SIDEBAR

11:54:13AM MENTIONED TO MR. SHELBY THAT WE, JUST TO BE PROCEDURALLY

11:54:19AM CORRECT, MS. KERT THAT WE ASK THE PETITIONERS IF THEY HAD

11:54:22AM ANY OBJECTION TO THE CONTINUANCE.

11:54:24AM I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

11:54:25AM I THINK THEY PROBABLY NEED TO COME FORWARD AND STATE ON THE

11:54:30AM RECORD WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTION.

11:54:55AM >>BARBARA LYNCH: I THINK HE WANTS IT TO BE VOTED ON.

11:54:58AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION TO BE CLEAR, SIR, THERE'S A

11:55:01AM LITTLE BIT OF CONCERNS RAISED BY DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS,

11:55:05AM INCLUDING MYSELF, ASKING PERHAPS THAT WE COULD GET STAFF

11:55:07AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PETITION AND SEE WHY THEY

11:55:12AM OBJECTED OR DIDN'T OBJECT.

11:55:14AM IN YOUR CASE, THEY DIDN'T OBJECT.

11:55:16AM I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF.

11:55:19AM THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONTINUANCE OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AS

11:55:22AM OPPOSED TO VOTING UP OR DOWN TODAY.

11:55:24AM SO MY REQUEST IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IF WE CONTINUE

11:55:30AM THIS ITEM FOR A FEW WEEKS?

11:55:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: DID THEY WANT IT VOTED ON TODAY?

11:55:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY.

11:55:39AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION IS, DO THEY HAVE ANY

11:55:41AM OBJECTION IF WE CONTINUE IT?
11:55:44AM IT IS THE SAME QUESTION JUST STATED DIFFERENTLY.

11:55:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS?

11:55:58AM DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.

11:56:01AM YOUR CHOICE IS YOU MAY EITHER HAVE A CONTINUANCE TO SEEK THE

11:56:04AM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WISHES OR

11:56:07AM YOU MAY PROCEED TO THE VOTE TODAY.

11:56:09AM I'D GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

11:56:13AM HOW ABOUT WE GO TO 58?

11:56:16AM LET'S TRY TO SPEED THROUGH THAT ONE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE AND

11:56:19AM THEN COME BACK TO YOU.

11:56:21AM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:56:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GUYS.

11:56:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:56:25AM OKAY.

11:56:25AM WE MOVE TO 58.

11:56:33AM >> JOHN MARSH, URBAN PLANNER 2, SIDEWALK CAFES, PLANNING AND

11:56:38AM DEVELOPMENT.

11:56:39AM I HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL REPORT TO BE ADDED INTO THE RECORD.

11:56:45AM THE REPORT IS THE ACELA SUMMARY OF THE PREVIOUS REVIEW OF

11:56:53AM THIS APPLICATION.

11:56:54AM STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CASE SWC-20-7 AT 310 NORTH ROME

11:57:02AM TO PLACE TABLES AND CHAIRS IN THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR A

11:57:05AM SIDEWALK CAFE.

11:57:06AM SIDEWALK CAFE WILL ACTUALLY BE ON THE FIG STREET SIDE.

11:57:11AM ROME IS THE LEGAL ADDRESS.
11:57:13AM THE APPLICANT IS REBUILDING THE FIG STREET CURB AND SIDEWALK

11:57:16AM RIGHT-OF-WAY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

11:57:18AM STAFF AND APPLICANT'S AGENT IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY

11:57:24AM QUESTIONS.

11:57:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:57:26AM THANK YOU, SIR.

11:57:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:57:32AM TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF

11:57:35AM WILLA'S.

11:57:36AM GIVEN THE HOUR AND OUT OF RESPECT TO MY FELLOW TRAVELERS ON

11:57:39AM THE AGENDA, I'LL KEEP THIS PRETTY BRIEF.

11:57:42AM YOU ALL DO NOT GET A TON OF SIDEWALK CAFE HEARINGS.

11:57:45AM THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS

11:57:46AM DISTRICT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, IN YBOR CITY, THOSE ARE

11:57:50AM HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

11:57:51AM AS THERE'S MORE INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS OUTSIDE OF THOSE

11:57:55AM BOUNDARIES, THAT'S A CITY COUNCIL MATTER WHICH REQUIRES A

11:57:57AM PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

11:58:01AM THE PRIOR COUNCIL GRANTED THE SPECIAL USE APPROVAL TO SERVE

11:58:03AM ALCOHOL AT THIS RESTAURANT.

11:58:05AM THERE'S BEEN A BIT OF TURNOVER SINCE.

11:58:06AM I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF ORIENTATION ABOUT WHERE

11:58:09AM WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

11:58:11AM THE AREA IS 310 NORTH ROME.

11:58:15AM THAT'S THE BUILDING RIGHT THERE.
11:58:17AM THERE IS THE WALMART ON KENNEDY, A COUPLE OF BLOCKS UP FROM

11:58:20AM THAT IN NORTH HYDE PARK.

11:58:22AM THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDING CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE NOW ON THE

11:58:24AM ROME SIDE.

11:58:25AM THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1906.

11:58:28AM THIS IS AN INTERESTING ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT.

11:58:31AM THE SITE PLAN HERE SHOWS WHERE THE SIDEWALK CAFE IS GOING TO

11:58:36AM BE.

11:58:36AM IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS FIG.

11:58:39AM RIGHT NOW, NEXT, I'LL SHOW THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

11:58:44AM IT'S PRETTY IMPASSABLE BY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC NOW.

11:58:47AM SO WHILE WE ARE ASKING FOR A PERMIT TO HAVE A SIDEWALK CAFE

11:58:50AM AFTER GIVING EFFECT TO THAT CAFE AREA, THERE'S STILL GOING

11:58:54AM TO BE A SIX-FOOT SIDEWALK, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A

11:58:56AM SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS HAD

11:59:01AM A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY BUT NOT AS MUCH

11:59:03AM STREET-LEVEL ACTIVATION.

11:59:05AM HERE'S THE EXISTING CONDITION ON THE SITE ON FIG.

11:59:08AM TECO LINES WILL BE BURIED.

11:59:11AM IT HAS A BIT OF A SLOPE TO IT.

11:59:12AM NOT A PARTICULARLY PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.

11:59:15AM YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT ON THE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON

11:59:18AM THE NORTH SIDE OF FIG, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL MULTIFAMILY

11:59:23AM DEVELOPMENT.

11:59:24AM A LOT OF FOLKS ARE THERE, AND THEY ARE HUNGRY, WHICH IS WHY
11:59:28AM IT'S GOOD THAT A RESTAURANT IS GOING TO BE GOING IN THERE.

11:59:30AM NEXT, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A RENDERING OF WHAT THE SIDEWALK

11:59:34AM CAFE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

11:59:36AM AN ASPECT OF THIS IS NOT TOTALLY ACCURATE.

11:59:39AM JOHN MARSH HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH IN THIS, WOULD

11:59:42AM KILL ME IF I SHOWED THESE GIANT PLANTERS.

11:59:44AM CODE IS A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR ON THIS.

11:59:47AM OUR SITE PLAN DOES NOT HAVE THESE MASSIVE PLANTERS.

11:59:50AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE ARCHITECT DOING A WONDERFUL JOB

11:59:53AM AND THE LAWYER UNFORTUNATELY HAVING TO RATCHET THINGS BACK A

11:59:58AM BIT.

11:59:58AM THIS IS A SENSE OF WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW IT

12:00:02PM WOULD FLOW.

12:00:03PM 12 TABLES, 24 SEATS.

12:00:05PM OPEN FROM 6 TO 11.

12:00:06PM WE MIGHT CHANGE THAT AS THE RESTAURANT BECOMES MORE

12:00:09PM SUCCESSFUL WHICH IT WILL BE AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE

12:00:13PM EXTENT WE HAVE TO MODIFY THE HOURS.

12:00:15PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

12:00:15PM I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE BRIEFLY, AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO

12:00:18PM SPEAK OR ANY ANSWER QUESTIONS.

12:00:20PM SIEGEL AND JENKINS, WHO ARE THE COFOUNDERS OF THE

12:00:25PM RESTAURANT, BOTH PRODUCTS OF TAMPA WHO MOVED TO NEW YORK

12:00:29PM CITY, WORKED IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AND WE'RE FORTUNATE

12:00:32PM TO HAVE THEM BACK HERE.
12:00:33PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOLKS HAVE.

12:00:36PM OUT OF RESPECT OF YOUR TIME AND FELLOW AGENDA TRAVELERS,

12:00:39PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK THEM TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW.

12:00:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. HUDSON.

12:00:43PM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:00:46PM ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?

12:00:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON, BRILLIANT PLAN.

12:00:50PM I LIKE THIS PLAN A LOT.

12:00:50PM I LIKE SIX FOOT FOR SIDEWALKS.

12:00:53PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.

12:00:54PM IS THERE GOING TO BE ON-STREET PARKING THAT YOU KNOW OF?

12:00:59PM >> THERE ARE NOT ON-STREET PARKING SPACES RIGHT NEXT TO THE

12:01:03PM SIDEWALK CAFE BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FIG, THERE'S EXISTING

12:01:07PM ON-STREET PARKING.

12:01:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE GOING TO BE PROPOSED BIKE RACKS FOR

12:01:11PM PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO DRIVE THEIR CAR?

12:01:14PM >> YES.

12:01:14PM THERE ARE BIKE RACKS ON-SITE.

12:01:17PM THIS IS THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE PROPRIETORS WHO ARE SITTING

12:01:20PM BEHIND ME, THAT NOT DRIVING IS GOING TO BE ENCOURAGED.

12:01:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FANTASTIC.

12:01:24PM WE ALL KNOW THAT -- EXCUSE ME, THE CITY HAS NOT GRANTED YET

12:01:29PM BUT SCOOTERS MAY BE A PART OF OUR FUTURE.

12:01:32PM IS THERE A PROPOSED PLACE FOR SCOOTERS TO BE PARKED INSTEAD

12:01:35PM OF JUST BEING ON THE SIDEWALK TO PREVENT ADA?
12:01:39PM >> THERE ARE SCOOTER CORRALS.

12:01:42PM I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE PLANNING ON HOSTING ONE ON-SITE.

12:01:45PM DUE TO THE PROLIFERATION OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE

12:01:48PM AREA, THERE'S ADEQUATE SCOOTER SUPPLY, AND IT APPEARS

12:01:52PM DEMAND.

12:01:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT I SEE THE

12:01:55PM PETITIONER'S HEAD BOBBING UP AND DOWN.

12:01:58PM >> IS THERE A CORRAL ON THE BUILDING PROPERTY?

12:02:00PM OKAY, NEXT TO THE BIKE RACK THERE WILL BE SCOOTERS.

12:02:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHARLIE MIRANDA REMINDED US NOT TOO LONG

12:02:10PM AGO, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY.

12:02:12PM JUST A MATTER OF QUICK DISCLOSURE, I'VE KNOWN MR. SIEGEL

12:02:16PM SINCE HE WAS A LITTLE GUY WHEN HE COULD ONLY RIDE A SCOOTER.

12:02:19PM HE GREW UP WITH MY SON.

12:02:23PM ANYWAY, NO CONCERNS, NO RECUSALS NECESSARY.

12:02:25PM I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

12:02:27PM I ASSUME WHERE THE PLANTERS WERE SHOWN, THAT'S WHERE THE

12:02:30PM SIDEWALK WILL BE.

12:02:32PM >> THAT'S RIGHT.

12:02:33PM I THINK THE PLANTER AREA THAT I SHOWED IS STILL PROBABLY

12:02:35PM WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WILL BE THE SIDEWALK CAFE.

12:02:39PM WE'LL WORK WITH JOHN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD ON THE CODE

12:02:42PM WITH THAT.

12:02:42PM IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR HOW BIG THE PLANTERS CAN BE.

12:02:45PM THE INTENT IS REMOVABILITY.
12:02:47PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE TABLE, CHAIRS, PLANTERS, THROUGH A

12:02:50PM HURRICANE WE CAN MOVE THAT.

12:02:52PM THEY ARE PRETTY GOOD SIZE.

12:02:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNDER THE CODE, IF YOU'RE SERVING LIQUOR,

12:02:56PM WHICH I ASSUME FOLKS WILL DRINK OUT THERE AS WELL, DOESN'T

12:03:01PM THAT HAVE TO BE FENCED OFF A LITTLE BIT WITH A METAL FENCE

12:03:04PM OR SOMETHING?

12:03:04PM >> THE CODE ALLOWS FOR INSTALLING ESSENTIALLY --

12:03:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- INPUT ON THAT?

12:03:12PM >> FROM HOW IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED TO ME, YOU GET YOUR SIDEWALK

12:03:17PM CAFE PERMIT IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING ALCOHOL, YOUR PERMIT NOW

12:03:21PM EXTENDS FROM THAT BOUNDARY TO THE CURB.

12:03:23PM THE CITY HAS TAKEN THE POSITION WE DO NOT USE CORRALS LIKE

12:03:27PM OTHER CITIES.

12:03:28PM AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT MARKING OUT THOSE AREAS.

12:03:33PM PART OF THE REASON IT WAS FELT IN SOME AREAS, LIKE 7th

12:03:36PM AVENUE, WE'RE CREATING A PEDESTRIAN IMPEDIMENT THAT CREATES

12:03:40PM MORE PROBLEMS.

12:03:42PM SO THAT HAS BEEN OUR APPROACH UP TO NOW.

12:03:43PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.

12:03:44PM FAIR ENOUGH.

12:03:45PM AS LONG AS WE'RE CONSISTENT AND WITHIN THE LAW.

12:03:47PM THANK YOU.

12:03:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

12:03:48PM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. HUDSON?
12:03:51PM >> NO.

12:03:52PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

12:03:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

12:03:54PM ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 58?

12:03:57PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

12:03:59PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:04:00PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:04:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:04:03PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:04:04PM IS THERE ANYTHING, MR. SHELBY, WE NEED TO READ ON THIS?

12:04:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE MOTION TO

12:04:10PM APPROVE THE SIDEWALK?

12:04:13PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APPROVE THE APPLICATION.

12:04:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,

12:04:17PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:04:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:04:19PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:04:20PM THANK YOU.

12:04:21PM OKAY.

12:04:22PM NOW THAT 58 IS DONE, WE GO BACK TO 57 FOR THE APPLICANT'S

12:04:27PM FORMAL POSITION.

12:04:30PM >>BARBARA LYNCH: THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE VOTE

12:04:32PM TODAY.

12:04:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU ALL WANT TO SAY THAT FORMALLY THAT YOU

12:04:38PM WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD?
12:04:39PM >> YES, WE WANT TO GO FORWARD.

12:04:42PM >> WE WOULD LIKE A VOTE TODAY.

12:04:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE CLOSE, ANYTHING ELSE?

12:04:45PM A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:04:48PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:04:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:04:51PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:04:51PM WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, MR. SHELBY.

12:04:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE HAS ALREADY BEEN

12:04:56PM READ, THERE SEEMS TO BE A TYPO -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE

12:05:01PM WHOLE THING, UNLESS YOU FEEL THE NEED, BUT YOU'VE READ IT,

12:05:05PM BUT IT'S OAKDALE AVENUE, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.

12:05:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:05:09PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:05:11PM I BELIEVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:05:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:05:15PM AYE.

12:05:15PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:05:16PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NAY.

12:05:18PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND DINGFELDER

12:05:21PM VOTING NO AND MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

12:05:23PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 20th,

12:05:30PM 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

12:05:32PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT PASSED 4-2.

12:05:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
12:05:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

12:05:42PM ITEM 59, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT?

12:05:47PM MOTION TO REMOVE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:05:50PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:05:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:05:52PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:05:52PM NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 60.

12:05:55PM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY

12:05:57PM ATTORNEY.

12:05:58PM ITEM 60 AND ACTUALLY ITEM 61 HAVE THE SAME PETITIONER AND IT

12:06:01PM IS THE SAME GENERAL REQUEST, EXCEPT FOR THE LOCATION.

12:06:04PM IF YOU WANTED TO HEAR THEM TOGETHER, YOU COULD, AS LONG AS

12:06:07PM YOU UNDERSTAND AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU'LL BE APPLYING THE

12:06:10PM CRITERIA TO TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

12:06:13PM AND SO YOU COULD RESULT IN ONE BEING APPROVED, ONE BEING

12:06:15PM DENIED, BOTH BEING APPROVED, BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE

12:06:18PM LOCATIONS.

12:06:20PM THESE ARE --

12:06:23PM >> THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE PETITIONER.

12:06:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT ON COUNCIL?

12:06:30PM ANY COMMENTS ON CONCURRENCY?

12:06:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FIRST ONE, 707, IS THIS THE ONE NEXT

12:06:35PM TO THE TAMPA THEATRE?

12:06:36PM >> YES, SIR.

12:06:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M ON THE TAMPA THEATRE BOARD, AND
12:06:40PM THERE WERE CONCERNS FROM SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, JUST

12:06:42PM VOCAL CONCERNS, THAT THEY WERE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

12:06:45PM BEING THAT I'M ON THE BOARD, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T HAVE A

12:06:48PM FINANCIAL STAKE AND I HAVE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, I WOULD

12:06:50PM RATHER NOT VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I'M THE BOARD.

12:06:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU SAY NOT VOTE FOR IT, DO YOU MEAN

12:06:57PM ABSTAIN AND NOT PARTICIPATE?

12:06:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY, ABSTAIN AND NOT PARTICIPATE IN

12:07:00PM THE VOTE, CONSIDERING MY POSITION ON THE BOARD.

12:07:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S YOUR INTENT TO NOT PARTICIPATE, AND

12:07:07PM YOU'LL HAVE THE PAPER WORK FILED FOR THAT BECAUSE -- I WILL

12:07:16PM HAVE THE PAPER WORK PREPARED.

12:07:21PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE'S CONFLICTED BETWEEN HIS TWO ROLES?

12:07:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM WHAT HE SAID, HIS

12:07:31PM SERVICE ON THE BOARD PUTS HIM IN A POSITION WHERE THE FACT

12:07:38PM THAT HE BELIEVES IT WOULD CREATE A CONFLICT IN THAT HE

12:07:42PM DOESN'T WANT TO CREATE AN APPEARANCE OF ANY IMPROPRIETY

12:07:46PM BECAUSE HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAIR OR IMPARTIAL DUE TO HIS

12:07:51PM SERVICE ON THE BOARD.

12:07:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, BECAUSE HE

12:07:55PM IS ON THE BOARD OF AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.

12:07:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: PETITIONER, ARE YOU OKAY WITH GOING FORWARD

12:08:04PM WITH FIVE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL, I ASSUME?

12:08:06PM BEFORE THAT, WERE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON COUNCILMAN

12:08:16PM MANISCALCO?
12:08:17PM >>REBECCA KERT: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT

12:08:20PM YOU ARE ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN IF YOU FEEL THAT THERE COULD BE A

12:08:23PM POTENTIAL DUE PROCESS VIOLATION OR AN APPEARANCE OF BIAS,

12:08:30PM WHICH IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH YOUR STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO

12:08:32PM VOTE.

12:08:33PM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A STATUTORILY CONFLICT BUT UNDER THE

12:08:37PM ETHICS RULES YOU ARE ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING.

12:08:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI, YOU'RE FINE WITH GOING FORWARD

12:08:42PM WITH FIVE INDIVIDUALS?

12:08:43PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S FINE.

12:08:44PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT, EACH OF THE

12:08:47PM PETITIONS WILL BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY.

12:08:49PM THE OTHER PETITION -- WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE INFORMATION

12:08:51PM THAT APPLIES TO BOTH PROPERTIES.

12:08:54PM SO THEN THE COUNCILMAN WOULDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT

12:08:57PM DISCUSSION FOR THE OTHER PETITION.

12:09:06PM >>REBECCA KERT: COUNCIL, AT THIS POINT I RECOGNIZE WE DO

12:09:09PM THEM SEPARATELY.

12:09:09PM ON ITEM 60, WHICH IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A SPECIAL USE

12:09:16PM PERMIT, AS YOU WILL RECALL WHEN YOU HERE A PETITION FOR

12:09:22PM REVIEW, THEY ARE DE NOVO AND ALLOWED TO RECEIVE NEW

12:09:26PM EVIDENCE.

12:09:27PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT THERE'S CRITERIA THAT RUNS WITH THE

12:09:29PM SPECIAL USE REQUEST.

12:09:30PM IF THOSE CRITERIA ARE NOT MET AT THE STAFF LEVEL, STAFF
12:09:32PM CANNOT APPROVE IT, SO IT HAS TO COME TO YOU FOR WAIVERS.

12:09:36PM STAFF PROVIDED WITH YOU A STAFF REPORT AND THE WAIVERS ARE

12:09:39PM LISTED IN RED SO YOU CAN EASILY DETERMINE WHAT WAIVERS THEY

12:09:43PM ARE REQUESTING, AND THEN YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO DETERMINE

12:09:47PM WHETHER OR NOT IF THE WAIVERS ARE GRANTED, THE GENERAL

12:09:49PM STANDARDS WHICH ARE ON YOUR STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 4 ARE STILL

12:09:52PM MET.

12:09:53PM I'M GOING TO BE HANDING OUT SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU TO

12:09:58PM CONSIDER.

12:09:59PM THIS ONE IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL IN THAT IT IS A REQUEST FOR AN

12:10:06PM ANNUAL VENDOR.

12:10:07PM ONE OF THE REQUEST FOR WAIVERS IS THAT THEY DON'T COME BACK

12:10:10PM ANNUALLY.

12:10:10PM HOWEVER, WE HAVE REVIEWED IT, AND BECAUSE THAT REQUIREMENT

12:10:12PM IS, IN FACT, IN THE LIST OF SPECIAL CRITERIA FOR THE SPECIAL

12:10:19PM USE, IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.

12:10:21PM IN FACT, YOU HAVE PREVIOUS -- I THINK A PREVIOUS CITY

12:10:24PM COUNCIL HAS APPROVED WAIVERS TO THAT CRITERIA.

12:10:27PM I'M GOING TO HAND OUT THE SPECIAL -- I'M SORRY.

12:10:30PM I'M GOING TO HAND OUT THE SAMPLE MOTIONS AND I'M AVAILABLE

12:10:33PM IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

12:10:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

12:10:40PM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

12:10:41PM ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

12:10:44PM THIS IS A PETITION FOR VEN 19-72 FOR A PROPERTY AT 707 NORTH
12:10:50PM FRANKLIN STREET.

12:10:51PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ACCARDI DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.

12:10:54PM IN THE STAFF REPORT ITSELF -- NOT THE STAFF REPORT.

12:10:57PM OKAY.

12:10:58PM THE APPLICANT, THIS IS JUST AS ALREADY INDICATED, THIS IS

12:11:05PM THE PROPERTY ON FRANKLIN STREET.

12:11:07PM THIS IS THE LOCATION.

12:11:09PM THIS IS THE PARKING LOT THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION.

12:11:13PM THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A COUPLE OF WAIVERS FROM THE

12:11:17PM REQUIREMENTS OF THE ANNUAL VENDOR REGULATIONS.

12:11:21PM THE FIRST, HAVE ACCESS TO A STREET THAT IS NOT ALLOWED FOR

12:11:26PM ANNUAL VENDOR.

12:11:26PM IN THE CODE THERE ARE SPECIFIC STREETS LISTED.

12:11:29PM FRANKLIN IS NOT ONE OF THE STREETS THAT IS LISTED.

12:11:31PM THEY ARE ASKING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE VENDORS FROM 600

12:11:37PM SQUARE FEET TO 1200 SQUARE FEET.

12:11:38PM THE HOURS ALLOWED BY CODE ARE FROM DAWN TO DUSK.

12:11:43PM THIS WOULD BE DAWN TO MIDNIGHT.

12:11:46PM TO INCREASE NUMBER OF VENDORS FROM ONE VENDOR PER SITE FOR

12:11:48PM THE LOT UP TO FOUR VENDORS, AND TO -- THE CODE SAYS THE

12:11:56PM VENDOR LOCATION CAN BE 10 BY 20.

12:11:58PM THEY ARE ASKING FOR 300 SQUARE FEET PER VENDOR SITE.

12:12:02PM THEY ARE ASKING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE VENDOR LOCATION

12:12:05PM AND ASKING NOT TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.

12:12:08PM EACH YEAR, IF THEY SWITCH OUT A VENDOR, THIS YEAR,
12:12:14PM CONFECTIONS IS THERE -- AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO HAVE

12:12:17PM SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN -- ANOTHER SITE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO

12:12:21PM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

12:12:22PM THEY DID SUBMIT A SITE PLAN.

12:12:29PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

12:12:32PM THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO VENDORS ON FRANKLIN AND THE TWO

12:12:36PM VENDORS ON ZACK STREET.

12:12:40PM SO THIS IS ZACK.

12:12:42PM THIS IS FRANKLIN.

12:12:43PM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE VENDOR CODE

12:12:47PM THAT I CAN ASSIST WITH?

12:12:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

12:12:52PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:12:55PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO YOU, ERIC, OR TO LEGAL STAFF, SO RIGHT

12:12:59PM NOW, WE ASK FOR IT TO COME BACK ANNUALLY.

12:13:04PM THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS, I THINK I'M READING.

12:13:08PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.

12:13:09PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEY WANT UNLIMITED FOREVER.

12:13:12PM >>ERIC COTTON: THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

12:13:15PM AS ONE VENDOR MOVES OUT AND A NEW VENDOR MOVE IN, THEY DON'T

12:13:19PM WANT TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL AND ASK FOR A NEW ANNUAL

12:13:23PM VENDOR PERMIT.

12:13:24PM IT WOULD BE HANDLED AT STAFF LEVEL.

12:13:26PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVEN IF IT IS THE SAME FOOTPRINT -- OH,

12:13:29PM YOU'RE SAYING THAT STAFF WOULD REVIEW IT.
12:13:31PM >>ERIC COTTON: IT STILL COMES BACK TO STAFF.

12:13:34PM THE WAY IT HAS WORKED IN THE PAST, THE ACCORDY -- ACCARDI

12:13:41PM PROPERTY OWNERS WILL SAY THIS IS A NEW VENDOR.

12:13:45PM WE UPLOAD IT INTO ACELA SO IT REFLECTS THE NEW VENDOR THERE.

12:13:49PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SAME FOOTPRINT.

12:13:50PM >>ERIC COTTON: SAME LOCATION DEPENDING ON WHERE IT WAS

12:13:53PM APPROVED AT PREVIOUSLY.

12:13:54PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST DIFFERENT NAME.

12:13:56PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.

12:13:57PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

12:13:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI.

12:14:00PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

12:14:03PM BASICALLY, THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PROCESS THAT WE

12:14:11PM HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

12:14:13PM AND THAT PROCESS IS THAT EVERY TIME THAT WE CHANGE A VENDOR

12:14:16PM WE HAVE TO RESUBMIT AN APPLICATION.

12:14:19PM WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE THE SAME LOCATIONS REPEATEDLY,

12:14:24PM WHETHER THE VENDORS CHANGE OR NOT.

12:14:26PM AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE, VENDORS LIKE THIS TEND TO BE KIND

12:14:31PM OF TRANSIENT.

12:14:32PM IF A CERTAIN CONCEPT DOESN'T WORK, THEY LEAVE.

12:14:35PM WE WOULD CONSTANTLY BE IN AN APPEAL PROCESS COMING BACK TO

12:14:40PM CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE STAFF CAN'T WAIVE THESE PROVISIONS

12:14:44PM ADMINISTRATIVELY.

12:14:46PM SO WE HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL.
12:14:48PM IT WOULD BE AN APPEAL JUST LIKE THIS ONE IS, AND REQUEST

12:14:51PM THAT WE BE BACK TO APPROVE A DIFFERENT VENDOR IN THE SAME

12:14:56PM LOCATIONS.

12:14:57PM THE PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE FOUR VENDORS.

12:15:01PM EACH OF THEM 300 SQUARE FEET.

12:15:04PM THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT THE TOTAL OF 1200 SQUARE FEET FOR THE

12:15:08PM SITES.

12:15:08PM WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES.

12:15:10PM WE HAVE DIFFERENT FOLIO NUMBERS FOR THESE PROPERTIES, BUT

12:15:15PM IT'S ALL CONTIGUOUS.

12:15:16PM SO WE HAD TWO VENDORS UP HERE ON FRANKLIN STREET AND TWO

12:15:20PM VENDORS DOWN HERE ON ZACK.

12:15:23PM NOT ALL OF THEM ARE ACTIVE ALL OF THE TIME.

12:15:26PM AS I SAID, IT'S A VERY TRANSIENT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.

12:15:32PM SO WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE

12:15:37PM THE WAIVERS FOR THE HOURS FOR THE FOUR LOCATIONS SO THAT WE

12:15:42PM CAN ALL HANDLE THIS ADMINISTRATIVELY INSTEAD OF CONTINUALLY

12:15:46PM COMING BACK UNDER APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

12:15:49PM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE

12:15:52PM REGARDING THIS.

12:15:53PM WE HAD THE SAME REQUEST EARLIER FOR A COUPLE OF OTHER

12:15:58PM PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN.

12:15:59PM BUT AS THEY MOVE FORWARD REDEVELOPMENT, THEN THE VENDORS

12:16:03PM WOULD DISAPPEAR.

12:16:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MICHELINI?
12:16:08PM YES, SIR.

12:16:10PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOMEBODY UP HERE, I GUESS MR. MANISCALCO,

12:16:13PM ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THE THERA BOARD MIGHT NOT BE

12:16:22PM THRILLED WITH THIS.

12:16:23PM HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THEM?

12:16:24PM IF NOT, WHAT OBJECTIONS AND ARE THEY HERE?

12:16:27PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M NOT AWARE IF THEY ARE HERE.

12:16:30PM WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY CALLS OR OBJECTIONS FROM ANYONE.

12:16:33PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEM?

12:16:36PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS AN ISSUE UNTIL

12:16:38PM THIS MORNING.

12:16:39PM WE SENT OUT THE NOTICE AND WE SENT OUT OVER 400 AND SOME ODD

12:16:43PM NOTICES BECAUSE OF THE DOWNTOWN LOCATION, AND WE NOTICED --

12:16:46PM WE ACTUALLY NOTICED TWICE.

12:16:48PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE OWNERS.

12:16:53PM WE, THE CITY ARE OWNERS.

12:16:55PM NOT SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF IT IF THEY HAD A BIG OBJECTION.

12:16:59PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: ALSO HAVE SIGNS POSTED ON FRANKLIN STREET

12:17:02PM AND ON ZACK STREET.

12:17:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO CLARIFY, BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING

12:17:06PM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY LIKE FOOD TRUCKS?

12:17:08PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.

12:17:09PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE ON THE APPLICATION, IT SAYS

12:17:11PM PRODUCTS TO BE SOLD HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED.

12:17:15PM THAT WAS IN RED, THE RESPONSE FROM STAFF.
12:17:18PM WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE?

12:17:20PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S A FOOD FIRE TRUCK.

12:17:22PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THESE ARE FOR FOOD TRUCKS.

12:17:24PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.

12:17:25PM THEY DON'T ALL OPERATE, LIKE I SAID, AT THE SAME TIME.

12:17:27PM THEY MAY NOT EVEN LEASE.

12:17:29PM WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THESE OTHER ONES WHERE WE HAVE

12:17:32PM APPROVAL TO PUT IN FOOD TRUCKS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T LEASED OUT

12:17:37PM THE SPOTS.

12:17:37PM AND THE SIZE IS REALLY TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF THE SIDEWALK SO

12:17:43PM WHEN PEOPLE ARE WALKING UP TO THE FOOD TRUCK, THEY DON'T

12:17:46PM BLOCK THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY AND SO WE CAN PUT IN THE PROPER

12:17:50PM SOLID WASTE CONTAINERS FOR COLLECTING TRASH AND DEBRIS.

12:17:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.

12:17:55PM SO LET'S SAY FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, GET A GREAT FOOD TRUCK

12:18:01PM THAT'S DOING TREMENDOUSLY SUCCESSFUL, CAN THEY SIT THERE 365

12:18:05PM DAYS A YEAR UNDER THIS PERMIT?

12:18:07PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO?

12:18:11PM YES.

12:18:12PM AS LONG AS THEY MEET -- WELL, THERE ARE OTHER CRITERIA THEY

12:18:14PM HAVE TO MEET.

12:18:15PM THEY HAVE TO MEET THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CRITERIA FOR

12:18:18PM MAINTAINING THEIR VEHICLES AND ALL OF THE SAFETY PROVISIONS

12:18:22PM IN THERE FOR FOOD DELIVERY SERVICES.

12:18:25PM THEY ALSO HAVE TO MEET THE CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR TRASH AND
12:18:28PM DEBRIS AND MAINTAINING THE CONTAINERS SO THAT THEY ARE

12:18:31PM EMPTIED PROPERLY AND PICKED UP.

12:18:33PM THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE OTHER SERVICES.

12:18:35PM THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO SANITARY FACILITY, WATER,

12:18:42PM FOR EXAMPLE.

12:18:45PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW DO YOU GET GARBAGE CONTAINERS IF

12:18:48PM YOU'RE NOT REALLY THERE?

12:18:50PM TYPICALLY, GARBAGE DOESN'T COME OUT FOR AN EMPTY LOT.

12:18:57PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, BUT WE HAVE ADDRESSES.

12:18:59PM THEY APPLY FOR A SERVICE AND PAY SOLID WASTE FEES.

12:19:02PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAS THAT BEEN THE CASE SO FAR?

12:19:04PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.

12:19:05PM THEY EITHER DO THAT OR TAKE IT OFF OF THE PREMISES AND TAKE

12:19:08PM IT TO A COLLECTION CENTER THAT THEY PAY FOR AS WELL.

12:19:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

12:19:12PM THANK YOU.

12:19:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

12:19:13PM THANK YOU.

12:19:15PM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MICHELINI?

12:19:18PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.

12:19:18PM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT

12:19:21PM HAVE.

12:19:22PM AS I SAID, AS THEY TRANSITION OUT, THEN THEY ARE REPLACED.

12:19:27PM SOMETIMES THEY REMAIN VACANT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LEASE OUT.

12:19:30PM BUT THEY ALSO ARE INVOLVED IN PROMOTIONS FOR THE CITY OF
12:19:33PM TAMPA FOR VARIOUS FUND-RAISERS FOR CHARITIES AND OTHER

12:19:38PM THINGS LIKE THAT.

12:19:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

12:19:40PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION.

12:19:41PM THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONTRADICTION.

12:19:43PM IT SAYS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN SHOWS 300 SQUARE FEET FOR A

12:19:47PM TOTAL OF 1200 SQUARE FEET.

12:19:49PM FURTHER DOWN UNDER NUMBER 11.1 OR DOT I, IT SAYS THE REQUEST

12:19:57PM IS FOR NO SIZE LIMITATION.

12:20:00PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, THE SIZE LIMITATION IS THERE.

12:20:02PM IT'S 300 SQUARE FEET.

12:20:03PM THAT IS A WAIVER OF THE CITY REQUIREMENT.

12:20:06PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR VEHICLE OR TEMPORARY

12:20:09PM STRUCTURE COULD BE UP TO 300 SQUARE FEET.

12:20:12PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.

12:20:12PM IT WILL BE WITHIN THE ENVELOPE AS DESCRIBED AND SHOWN ON THE

12:20:15PM SITE PLAN.

12:20:16PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

12:20:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:20:18PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

12:20:19PM ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 60?

12:20:21PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

12:20:22PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:20:25PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:20:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:28PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:20:28PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

12:20:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS JUST FOR 60.

12:20:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

12:20:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TITLE IS PETITION FOR REVIEW --

12:21:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I SAID -- I MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING

12:21:06PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION --

12:21:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EN --

12:21:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: VEN 19-72, 707 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET BECAUSE

12:21:28PM THE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION, THAT THE

12:21:31PM WAIVER GRANTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL

12:21:33PM STANDARDS SET FORTH IN 29-129 AT TIME OF PERMITTING THE SITE

12:21:37PM PLAN MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE CODES AND TECHNICAL STANDARDS

12:21:40PM SEE SECTION 2961B AND 27127B 2.

12:21:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

12:21:48PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:21:49PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:21:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:21:52PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:22:01PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO ABSTAINING AND

12:22:05PM MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

12:22:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAM.

12:22:10PM 61.

12:22:12PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

12:22:14PM THIS IS A PETITIONER FOR REVIEW FOR VEN 19-71, PROPERTY AT
12:22:20PM 801 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

12:22:22PM JUST A CORRECTION ON THE STAFF REPORT, ON PAGE 2, SAYS NORTH

12:22:26PM FRANKLIN STREET, IT SHOULD SAY NORTH ASHLEY.

12:22:30PM THE APPLICATION IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WAS JUST HEARD.

12:22:34PM THIS IS A SQUARE BLOCK ALONG ASHLEY, POLK, TAMPA, AND CASS

12:22:40PM STREET.

12:22:41PM IN THIS CASE, ON THE SITE PLAN, THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VENDOR

12:22:46PM AT EACH OF THE FOUR CORNERS.

12:22:50PM AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO ACCESS A

12:22:55PM STREET THAT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE VENDOR ORDINANCE TO

12:23:00PM INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 600 TO 1200

12:23:04PM SQUARE FEET.

12:23:04PM THE HOURS FROM -- INSTEAD OF BEING FROM DAWN TO DUSK FROM

12:23:08PM BEING FROM DAWN TO MIDNIGHT.

12:23:09PM INCREASE HAD THE NUMBER OF VENDORS FROM ONE VENDOR PER THE

12:23:12PM ZONING LOT TO THE FOUR VENDORS.

12:23:14PM INCREASE THE SIZE FROM 10 BY 20 TO UNLIMITED SIZE BUT PER

12:23:18PM THE SITE PLAN TO 300 SQUARE FEET AND NO NEED FOR THE ANNUAL

12:23:23PM RENEWAL, SO THEY WOULD NOT COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL EACH YEAR

12:23:26PM TO ASK FOR THE WAIVERS.

12:23:31PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

12:23:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

12:23:34PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:23:35PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. COTTON I GUESS THIS WOULD APPLY TO

12:23:41PM EITHER ONE OR PERHAPS ANYBODY WHO IS DOING THIS, BUT WE HAVE
12:23:48PM THIS -- I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THEORETICALLY NOW THIS ONE

12:23:51PM ASKS FOR FOUR CORNERS, POTENTIALLY 365 DAYS A YEAR.

12:23:57PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE RESTROOM FACILITY, CORRECT?

12:24:01PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.

12:24:02PM IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

12:24:04PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS, THIS FOOD TRUCK THING IS COOL

12:24:12PM AND NEAT ON ONE HAND BUT I FEEL SORRY FOR THE EXISTING

12:24:15PM BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHO ARE PAYING SIGNIFICANT

12:24:18PM RENT AND HAVE TO PROVIDE RESTROOM FACILITIES AND I DON'T

12:24:26PM KNOW WHAT ELSE THE HEALTH CODE REQUIRES AND THAT SORT OF

12:24:30PM THING.

12:24:31PM I'M SURE YOU ARE A LANDLORD OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESTAURANTS.

12:24:39PM SO I JUST WONDER.

12:24:41PM >> I OWN EIGHT BUILDINGS ON FRANKLIN STREET WHERE I HAVE

12:24:44PM TENANTS.

12:24:44PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.

12:24:45PM YOU'VE GOT IT ON BOTH SIDES.

12:24:48PM I WONDER HOW THIS IS FAIR TO THE HARD SCAPE RESTAURANTS THAT

12:24:54PM ARE THERE.

12:24:56PM >> JASON ACCARDI.

12:24:58PM GOOD QUESTION.

12:25:01PM YEAH, I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

12:25:03PM WE OWN REAL ESTATE AND OPERATE PARKING THROUGHOUT THE

12:25:07PM COUNTRY IN VERY LARGE CITIES, NOT ONLY FROM A MARKETING AND

12:25:10PM ADVERTISING PERSPECTIVE, ONE THING THAT STEVE TALK ABOUT A
12:25:12PM LITTLE BIT IT'S NOT REALLY JUST ABOUT FOOD VENDORS.

12:25:16PM IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE THAT PROMOTE TAMPA.

12:25:17PM IT COULD BE SOMEBODY DURING AN EVENT THAT WOULD WANT TO GO

12:25:21PM THERE.

12:25:22PM WE'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS HERE, FROM THE

12:25:25PM APPLICATION PROCESS, FROM HAVING TO COME BACK HERE.

12:25:28PM YEAH, I THINK WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.

12:25:31PM I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD OTHER PERMITS IN DOWNTOWN THAT WE'VE

12:25:34PM HAD FOOD VENDORS, SOME HAVE MADE IT.

12:25:37PM SOME HAVEN'T.

12:25:38PM I HAVEN'T SEEN -- I'M ON FRANKLIN STREET ALL THE TIME, MY

12:25:43PM TENANTS AND OTHERS, I NEVER HAD ANYBODY COME UP TO ME AND

12:25:47PM SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS HURTING MY BUSINESS.

12:25:50PM I NEVER HEARD THAT, I GUESS.

12:25:52PM ACTUALLY, I THINK LAST COUNCIL WAS PROMOTING FOR ME TO TAKE

12:25:56PM ONE OF THE LOTS WE HAD DOWNTOWN AND MAKE THE WHOLE THING A

12:25:59PM VENDOR MARKET.

12:26:00PM THE LAST HEARING WE HAD ON THIS.

12:26:02PM OUR GOAL IS TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE

12:26:05PM PROPERLY LICENSED AND GET THE PROPER PERMITS THROUGH THE

12:26:08PM CITY OF TAMPA AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT STEVE MENTIONED

12:26:11PM AS WELL.

12:26:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M A REGULAR OVER THERE AT THE PIZZA

12:26:13PM PLACE, THE NEW YORK PIZZA ON THE CORNER THERE.

12:26:17PM LATE NIGHT, MIDNIGHT, MY WIFE AND I WILL SWING BY THERE AND
12:26:22PM GRAB A SLICE OR TWO.

12:26:23PM YOU ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.

12:26:25PM IF THERE WAS A LITTLE PIZZA FOOD TRUCK RIGHT ACROSS THE

12:26:29PM STREET AND IF I OWNED THE NEW YORK PIZZA THERE, I MIGHT FEEL

12:26:32PM A LITTLE DISTURBED BY THAT.

12:26:34PM BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS, BUT THIS IS HOW MY MIND

12:26:38PM WORKS.

12:26:39PM >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TODAY THAT'S GOING TO BE IN ANY OF

12:26:45PM THESE SPOTS.

12:26:46PM WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PERMIT IT SO THAT IF WE DO HAVE

12:26:47PM SOMEBODY IT STREAMLINES THE PROCESS.

12:26:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW WE WILL GET ASKED THIS QUESTION, SO I

12:26:54PM FIGURE I'LL ASK YOU IT NOW.

12:26:55PM WILL APPROVING THIS IN ANY WAY DELAY YOUR INTEREST IN

12:26:59PM DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY?

12:27:01PM >> NOT AT ALL.

12:27:02PM OUR GOAL IS TO DEVELOP A LOT.

12:27:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MICHELINI.

12:27:11PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE

12:27:13PM PRESENTATION?

12:27:15PM THE WAIVER IS BASICALLY AS JASON MENTIONED.

12:27:17PM I SAID A MINUTE AGO, IS TO REALLY TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS

12:27:20PM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE ON AN APPEAL BASIS.

12:27:28PM AGAIN, WE HAVE FOUR DESIGNATED LOCATIONS, EACH 300 SQUARE

12:27:32PM FEET WITH A TOTAL OF 1200 SQUARE FEET.
12:27:34PM AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE WAIVERS SO WE CAN MARKET THE SITES

12:27:40PM AND THE TURNOVER REGARDING FOOD TRUCKS IS VERY HIGH.

12:27:44PM IF A CONCEPT DOESN'T WORK, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE VERY

12:27:48PM LONG.

12:27:48PM IN ADDITION TO THAT YOU HAVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT LIKELY

12:27:54PM TO BE OPEN LATE AT NIGHT IF THERE'S NO TRAFFIC.

12:27:57PM SO THESE LOCATIONS REALLY CATER TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS

12:28:03PM EMPLOYEES, AND THEY WANT A QUICK BITE.

12:28:05PM THEY JUMP OVER THERE, GRAB WHAT THEY WANT AND GO.

12:28:09PM EACH OF THE SITES WILL HAVE THEIR OWN GARBAGE AND SOLID

12:28:11PM WASTE COLLECTION, AND THEY WILL BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED IN

12:28:14PM ACCORDANCE WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE CITY OF

12:28:18PM TAMPA CODE.

12:28:19PM IT WILL SHIFT THE RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE COUNCIL AS AN

12:28:22PM APPEAL BODY BACK TO THE CITY STAFF AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE

12:28:27PM PROCESS.

12:28:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MICHELINI?

12:28:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MICHELINI, WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT

12:28:34PM THESE WILL BE SOME SORT OF MOBILE FOOD SHOPS.

12:28:37PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.

12:28:38PM PROPERLY PERMITTED THROUGH THE STATE.

12:28:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY WILL NOT CHANGE -- EXCUSE ME, THE USE

12:28:44PM WILL NOT CHANGE.

12:28:45PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.

12:28:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR SOME REASON IF A FOOD TRUCK MOVES OUT,
12:28:50PM YOU WON'T HAVE A LITTLE VAPING.

12:28:53PM IT IS STRICTLY FOOD TRUCK.

12:28:55PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES.

12:28:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE FOR ANOTHER 15 MINUTES.

12:29:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: CLERK, STAFF, EVERYBODY OKAY WITH 15?

12:29:03PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

12:29:11PM CARLSON.

12:29:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:29:13PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:29:13PM ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

12:29:19PM OKAY.

12:29:19PM NOTHING FURTHER?

12:29:20PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.

12:29:22PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

12:29:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM

12:29:25PM 61.

12:29:25PM IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

12:29:27PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:29:29PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:29:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:29:33PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

12:29:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION TO GRANT THIS PERMIT E

12:29:45PM 2019-8, CHAPTER 27, THE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE

12:29:50PM PETITION, IF GRANTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE

12:29:53PM GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH HEREIN IN 27-129 AT TIME OF
12:29:57PM PERMITTING, THE SITE PLAN MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE CODE AND

12:30:01PM TECHNICAL STANDARDS SECTION 2761B AND 27127B 2.

12:30:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THIS A MOVE TO REVERSE THE ZONING

12:30:09PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT?

12:30:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THEREFORE GRANTING THE PERMIT.

12:30:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:30:18PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:30:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:30:22PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:30:24PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

12:30:27PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

12:30:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 62, WHICH OTHER THAN

12:30:33PM MR. SHELBY'S REPORT, WILL BE THE LAST ONE.

12:30:37PM >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU.

12:30:38PM REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

12:30:40PM ITEM NUMBER 62 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW OF ZONING

12:30:43PM ADMINISTRATOR DECISION REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF A FENCE.

12:30:46PM IT WAS A REQUEST FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR THE HEIGHT OF A

12:30:49PM FENCE.

12:30:49PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOUND THAT IT DID NOT MEET THE

12:30:52PM GENERAL CRITERIA, WHICH ARE CONTAINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT,

12:30:55PM HOWEVER, THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW, SO THE PETITIONER HAS THE

12:30:59PM OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU WITH NEW EVIDENCE TO JUSTIFY

12:31:03PM THIS.

12:31:04PM I WILL PASS OUT SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU AND ALSO TURN IT OVER
12:31:07PM TO STAFF.

12:31:11PM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD AFTERNOON.

12:31:12PM ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

12:31:14PM THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR DE1-19-259 FOR PROPERTY AT

12:31:22PM 6908 NORTH 19th STREET.

12:31:24PM THE APPLICANT IS DAVID GRAY.

12:31:25PM THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF A FENCE IN

12:31:27PM THE FRONT YARD FROM THREE FEET TO SIX FEET.

12:31:29PM PER SECTION 27290.1, FENCED-IN WALL REGULATIONS, THE MAXIMUM

12:31:33PM HEIGHT IN THE FRONT YARD FOR A FENCE -- FOR A SOLID FENCE IS

12:31:37PM ALLOWED TO BE THREE FEET.

12:31:39PM THEY ARE ASKING TO GO TO SIX.

12:31:40PM STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST.

12:31:42PM INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO STAFF AT THE TIME TO

12:31:47PM SUPPORT THE REQUEST.

12:31:47PM THIS IS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

12:31:49PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

12:31:55PM THIS IS ACTUALLY 19th, WHICH YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THE

12:31:58PM STREET BECAUSE OF THE TREE COVERAGE.

12:32:02PM I DO HAVE PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

12:32:07PM THIS IS FROM 19th LOOKING AT THE FENCE ITSELF.

12:32:12PM IT IS A WOODEN FENCE, CROSS SLATS, SOLID ALONG THE LENGTH OF

12:32:15PM THE PROPERTY.

12:32:16PM YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER VIEW OF THE FENCE.

12:32:23PM THAT HE DIDN'T THIS IS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
12:32:25PM THE TWO PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET, SAME STYLE HOME.

12:32:30PM I BELIEVE THEY ARE FOUR-FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCES, AND THIS IS

12:32:34PM THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

12:32:36PM TO THE SOUTH OF THEM IS AN OPEN AREA OF TREES.

12:32:40PM MIGHT BE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

12:32:41PM I'M NOT SURE HONESTLY WHO THAT BELONGS TO.

12:32:44PM BUT THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THEM.

12:32:46PM LET ME SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN.

12:32:50PM SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OF THE PROPERTY.

12:32:57PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CROSS STREETS ARE HERE AND UP TO THE

12:33:01PM NORTH.

12:33:01PM THIS IS THE FENCE THAT RUNS ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE

12:33:04PM PROPERTY.

12:33:05PM THE CORNER LOT, ANOTHER PROPERTY AT THE CORNER CURRENTLY NOT

12:33:08PM DEVELOPED.

12:33:09PM COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN TRY TO ANSWER FOR YOU?

12:33:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

12:33:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHOW ME THE FRONT END OF THE PETITIONER'S

12:33:18PM HOUSE?

12:33:19PM >>ERIC COTTON: THIS IS THE FENCE THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO

12:33:24PM KEEP.

12:33:25PM THE FENCE IS ALREADY UP.

12:33:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS MY QUESTION, WAS THE FENCE ALREADY

12:33:29PM UP?

12:33:30PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
12:33:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:33:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:33:32PM PETITIONER?

12:33:37PM >> HELLO.

12:33:38PM THANK YOU.

12:33:38PM I'M DAVID GRAY.

12:33:39PM I RESIDE AT 6908 NORTH 19th STREET.

12:33:43PM THAT'S A HOUSE MY PARENTS BUILT IN 1996.

12:33:46PM THEY LIVED THERE UNTIL THEY PASSED AWAY.

12:33:50PM AND WHEN THEY BUILT IT, THEY HAD A SIX-FOOT FENCE UP, WHICH

12:33:54PM AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, IT HAD FALLEN INTO DISREPAIR SO I

12:33:59PM REPLACED IT WITH THE FENCE THAT YOU SAW FROM MR. COTTON.

12:34:03PM I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD THIS FANCY TECHNOLOGY.

12:34:07PM I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT MORE PICTURES, HUNDREDS.

12:34:09PM ANYWAY, LIKE I SAY, I LIVE AT 6908.

12:34:14PM I REPLACED THE FENCE.

12:34:15PM THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THE HOUSE, IT'S ACTUALLY THE SIDE OF

12:34:18PM THE HOUSE IS ON 19th STREET.

12:34:19PM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FACES SLIGH AVENUE.

12:34:24PM THIS IS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

12:34:26PM THIS IS NOT THE FANCY PART OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

12:34:31PM WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

12:34:33PM IT'S THE FUNKY PART OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

12:34:36PM AND THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE PROPERTY.

12:34:39PM THERE IS A SPRING ON IT, FRESHWATER SPRING, A CREEK THAT
12:34:43PM MEANDERS DOWN SEVERAL BLOCKS AWAY TO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.

12:34:46PM SO ONE OF MY GOALS IN HAVING A LARGE FENCE IS TO KEEP

12:34:52PM PEOPLE, KIDS, TRASH, LITTER OUT OF THAT CREEK.

12:34:56PM AND COMPOUNDING THAT, THERE HAPPENS TO BE A SCHOOL BUS STOP

12:35:01PM RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SPRING.

12:35:02PM EVERY MORNING, THERE ARE SCHOOLKIDS GATHERED AROUND.

12:35:05PM AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S LOTS OF LITTER AND COMMOTION AND

12:35:09PM EVERYTHING.

12:35:09PM I THINK THE HIGHER FENCE DOES SERVE AS PROTECTION FOR THE

12:35:15PM CREEK AND FOR THE KIDS.

12:35:17PM NO ONE FALLS IN THE CREEK AND IS HURT.

12:35:22PM BASICALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW LEGAL OR WHAT THIS IS, BUT, YOU

12:35:28PM KNOW, I SENT OUT ALL THOSE LETTERS TO MY NEIGHBORS, AND I

12:35:32PM DIDN'T KNOW I HAD SO MANY NEIGHBORS.

12:35:35PM LIKE 40 LETTERS.

12:35:36PM I GOT A LETTER BACK REGARDING THE PETITION.

12:35:39PM IT SAYS, HI, DAVID.

12:35:40PM I LIVE AT 6914, A FEW HOUSES DOWN.

12:35:44PM WE'VE MET ONCE OR TWICE.

12:35:46PM I SAW THAT LETTER IN THE MAILBOX AND THOUGHT I'D SHARE MY

12:35:49PM OPINION.

12:35:50PM I LOVE YOUR FENCE.

12:35:51PM AS SOON AS YOU PUT IT UP, I THOUGHT IT CHANGED THE ENTIRE

12:35:55PM STREET FOR THE BETTER.

12:35:56PM PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP IN ANY WAY WITH YOUR
12:35:59PM PETITION.

12:36:00PM CERTAINLY HOPE NO ONE, INCLUDING THE CITY, HAS ANY PROBLEM

12:36:03PM WITH IT.

12:36:04PM LET ME KNOW.

12:36:05PM ALL THE BEST, DERRICK WARNER.

12:36:08PM 6914.

12:36:10PM I ASKED IF I COULD SHARE THIS AND HE SAID FINE.

12:36:14PM HE COULDN'T BE HERE.

12:36:15PM BASICALLY, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

12:36:17PM I'M GOING FOR KEEPING MY FENCE AS IS.

12:36:22PM I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

12:36:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:36:25PM ANY QUESTIONS?

12:36:26PM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

12:36:30PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [INAUDIBLE]

12:36:38PM >> THIS IS A NEIGHBOR, YES.

12:36:40PM FOR THE PUBLIC PORTION.

12:36:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S PUBLIC COMMENT LATER ON.

12:36:47PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPECIFICALLY ON THIS?

12:36:48PM LET ME ASK THE GENTLEMAN A QUESTION.

12:36:55PM EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING THEIR

12:37:00PM PROPERTY AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT -- WHAT WAS THERE

12:37:06PM BEFORE YOU PUT UP A SIX-FOOT FENCE?

12:37:09PM >> A SIX-FOOT FENCE.

12:37:11PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHAIN-LINK?
12:37:12PM >> CHAIN-LINK AND IT WAS OVERRUN WITH VINES.

12:37:15PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU HAVE INCIDENCES OF PEOPLE

12:37:21PM CRAWLING OVER THAT FENCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

12:37:24PM >> YEAH.

12:37:25PM THERE WERE SAGGY, DROOPY AREAS OF THE FENCE, AND THERE HAVE

12:37:28PM BEEN INCIDENCES WHERE KIDS HAVE BEEN HAVING PARTIES IN THE

12:37:32PM CREEK WHEN I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

12:37:35PM YES, SIR, THERE HAVE BEEN.

12:37:37PM PEOPLE INTRUDING ON THE PROPERTY.

12:37:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU FEEL YOUR SITUATION IS UNIQUE.

12:37:45PM ARE YOU THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS THE CREEK AND THAT SORT OF

12:37:50PM THING?

12:37:51PM >> WELL, IT'S A UNIQUE PROPERTY.

12:37:54PM CHUNK OF PROPERTY, 19th STREET AND SLIGH HAS BEEN IN THE

12:37:57PM FAMILY FOR LIKE 80 YEARS.

12:37:59PM MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO OWN THE FRONT PART, AND THAT WAS

12:38:06PM ACTUALLY PASSED TO OTHER HANDS.

12:38:08PM MY PARENTS GOT THE BACK PART.

12:38:11PM THAT'S WHERE THEY BUILT THE HOUSE FACES SLIGH, BECAUSE IT

12:38:14PM WAS ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY.

12:38:16PM I GUESS IN '96, IT WASN'T ZONING -- IT WASN'T RESTRICTED.

12:38:23PM BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I HEARD THAT THERE WAS A

12:38:27PM DEVELOPMENT -- SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE FRONT PROPERTY.

12:38:29PM THEY WANTED TO PUT IN FIVE HOUSES, AND I THINK THEY'VE

12:38:33PM GOTTEN SHOT DOWN.
12:38:34PM AND BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE SPRING AND WATERWAY, IT SEEMS LIKE

12:38:38PM THEY CAN'T REALLY BUILD ANYTHING UP THERE.

12:38:44PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I TAKE IT THERE WAS NO PERMIT PULLED FOR

12:38:46PM THE FENCE.

12:38:47PM >> THERE WAS NOT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN

12:38:50PM SINCE THE FENCE HAD BEEN THERE SINCE CONSTRUCTION OF THE

12:38:53PM HOUSE.

12:38:55PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

12:38:58PM PERMITS ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR FENCES UNLESS IT IS A WALL THAT

12:39:01PM REQUIRES FOOTERS.

12:39:02PM STANDARD CHAIN-LINK OR WOOD FENCE WOULD NOT REQUIRE A

12:39:04PM PERMIT.

12:39:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DIDN'T THERE USED TO BE A FENCE PERMIT?

12:39:08PM >>ERIC COTTON: THERE WAS, NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY.

12:39:12PM PRIOR TO 1999 THERE WERE, BUT NOT ANYMORE THERE ARE NO FENCE

12:39:16PM PERMITS REQUIRED.

12:39:19PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

12:39:21PM THANK YOU.

12:39:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:39:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL GO ABOUT IT THIS WAY.

12:39:25PM DID YOU ERECT THE FENCE YOURSELF OR DID YOU HAVE A

12:39:28PM CONTRACTOR DO IT?

12:39:29PM >> I DIDN'T DO IT -- A FENCE COMPANY DID IT.

12:39:32PM YEAH.

12:39:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID THEY RAISE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT
12:39:37PM OF THE FENCE?

12:39:38PM >> MY PARTNER ACTUALLY DID EVERYTHING, PUT THE FENCE UP.

12:39:41PM I WASN'T INVOLVED IN ALL THE SPECIFICS, BUT I KIND OF GAVE

12:39:46PM HIM CARTE BLANCHE, YEAH, PUT UP A FENCE.

12:39:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:39:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

12:39:50PM OKAY.

12:39:50PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

12:39:51PM WE APPRECIATE IT.

12:39:52PM IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 62?

12:39:56PM I KNOW ONE NICE LADY IS HERE.

12:39:59PM >> OH, IT'S MY TURN.

12:40:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE.

12:40:01PM >> HOPE I DON'T FALL.

12:40:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: HI, MA'AM.

12:40:04PM IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

12:40:06PM WE'D APPRECIATE IT.

12:40:07PM >> I LIKE THE FENCE.

12:40:10PM I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT FENCE, AND I'VE BEEN

12:40:16PM THERE 53 YEARS BEFORE IT WAS BUILT, THE HOUSE.

12:40:22PM AND WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, THE CITY GAVE THE PERMIT TO

12:40:27PM FACE THE HOUSE TO SLIGH.

12:40:32PM I GOT THE BACK DOOR, AND THIS FENCE MAKES IT LOOK NICE, AND

12:40:41PM EVERYBODY THAT HAS SEEN IT LIKES IT.

12:40:45PM MY SON LIVES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:40:48PM HE WANTS TO HAVE THE FENCE JUST LIKE THAT BUILT AROUND HIS

12:40:53PM HOUSE.

12:40:56PM >> TELL THEM YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

12:40:58PM >> MY NAME IS SUSIE SCHWINDT.

12:41:01PM 6903 NORTH 19th STREET.

12:41:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

12:41:06PM ANYTHING ELSE?

12:41:07PM ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?

12:41:10PM ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY?

12:41:13PM >> I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

12:41:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY?

12:41:17PM >> I STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU.

12:41:19PM >> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE?

12:41:21PM >> HUH?

12:41:23PM >> I THINK SHE'S DONE.

12:41:26PM >> AM I DONE?

12:41:27PM >> YES, THANK YOU.

12:41:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

12:41:30PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

12:41:31PM ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 62?

12:41:36PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

12:41:39PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:41:41PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:41:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:41:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:41:45PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ONE?

12:41:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:41:50PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING

12:41:55PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION.

12:41:59PM FILE NUMBER E2019-8 CHAPTER 27.

12:42:02PM DE1-19-259.

12:42:09PM BECAUSE THE PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PETITION IS

12:42:13PM CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH

12:42:16PM HEREIN 27-60E --

12:42:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL SECOND THAT.

12:42:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU WANT TO SAY

12:42:26PM SOMETHING, SIR?

12:42:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NORMALLY, I THINK A SIX-FOOT FENCE,

12:42:30PM ESPECIALLY A SOLID WOOD OPAQUE FENCE IN A FRONT YARD ON A

12:42:34PM STREET LIKE THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY WANTS TO

12:42:37PM GO, AND IT DOES CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PRECEDENT.

12:42:41PM HOWEVER, I'LL VOTE FOR THIS AND SUPPORT THIS FOR TWO

12:42:46PM REASONS.

12:42:47PM NUMBER ONE, THE EXISTING -- LOOKING AT THE PICTURES IT LOOKS

12:42:50PM LIKE THERE WAS A SIX-FOOT FENCE EXISTING, CHAIN-LINK, SO

12:42:55PM AESTHETICALLY, THIS IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN THE CHAIN-LINK.

12:42:58PM AND NUMBER TWO, IT DOES SEEM THAT THERE'S AN UNUSUAL

12:43:02PM SITUATION WITH THE CREEK AND THE CHILDREN AND THE SCHOOL BUS

12:43:05PM AND THAT SORT OF THING.

12:43:07PM WITH THOSE SPECIFIC CRITERIA IDENTIFIED, I'LL SUPPORT THE
12:43:13PM MOTION.

12:43:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:43:15PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, I BELIEVE IT WAS.

12:43:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:43:20PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:43:22PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

12:43:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:43:25PM NOW TO OUR FINAL ITEM, MR. SHELBY, WITH REGARDS TO SULPHUR

12:43:29PM SPRINGS, I BELIEVE.

12:43:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO DEFER TO COUNCILMAN GUDES,

12:43:34PM PLEASE, ON THIS ISSUE.

12:43:39PM [INAUDIBLE]

12:43:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, WE'VE HAD QUITE CHALLENGES AT TIMES

12:43:45PM GETTING THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

12:43:46PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, THAT COUNCIL HAVE IN EACH

12:43:54PM QUARTER, A SPECIAL MEETING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN GO TO EACH

12:43:58PM ONE OF THE FOUR DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

12:44:01PM I THINK THAT GIVES THE COMMUNITY A SENSE THAT WE'RE

12:44:04PM LISTENING.

12:44:04PM WE'RE THERE, AND WE'RE THERE FOR THEM.

12:44:07PM SO I'D LIKE TO PUT A PROPOSAL THAT WE LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS

12:44:10PM TO PUT FOUR SPECIAL MEETINGS IN THE COMMUNITY DURING THE

12:44:19PM YEAR.

12:44:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU KNOW I'M TOTALLY IN

12:44:24PM FAVOR OF THIS.
12:44:25PM HOWEVER, I WAS AT A MEETING, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, BUT WE

12:44:29PM HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PUBLICLY NOTICED BY THE CITY

12:44:35PM AND THAT THERE IS SOMEONE THERE TO EITHER TAKE MINUTES IN

12:44:40PM WRITING OR ON FILM.

12:44:42PM I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SUNSHINE LAWS.

12:44:45PM BUT, NO, I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

12:44:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK NOW THAT WE'RE GOING IN A DIFFERENT

12:44:50PM DIRECTION, THIS IS A DIFFERENT COUNCIL, AND ELECTED

12:44:53PM OFFICIALS, IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO MEET THE PEOPLE.

12:44:56PM SO WE MAKE THAT -- WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A

12:45:03PM ROAD TO GO DOWN AND WE CAN GET THERE.

12:45:05PM I BELIEVE WE CAN GET THERE AND I BELIEVE WITH AMPLE TIME,

12:45:07PM THE ADMINISTRATION CAN WORK WITH US TO GET THIS DONE AS FAR

12:45:10PM AS HAVING SOMEONE THERE TO PROPERLY TAKE THE MINUTES AND

12:45:13PM VIDEOTAPE IT IF POSSIBLE.

12:45:14PM IF NOT, IF THE VIDEO --

12:45:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TAPE-RECORDED.

12:45:22PM THEY DO NEED TO HAVE MINUTES TAKEN.

12:45:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:45:27PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT GOING TO SAY TRULY NOVEL.

12:45:29PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WELL MARKETED.

12:45:34PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLUGGED INTO THE FIVE OR TEN

12:45:39PM OR FIFTEEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT

12:45:43PM QUADRANT.

12:45:44PM WHATEVER THEY ARE.
12:45:45PM AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE

12:45:48PM THIS THE LAST TIME WHEN WE TRIED TO DO IT IN EAST TAMPA IS

12:45:51PM THAT WE HAVE SOME KIND OF SPECIFIC AGENDA FOR THAT

12:45:57PM PARTICULAR MEETING.

12:45:58PM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE GO TO MR. CARLSON'S DISTRICT

12:46:03PM IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND WE ORGANIZE THE MEETING DOWN THERE, KATE

12:46:07PM JACKSON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

12:46:08PM MAYBE WHAT WE WOULD DO SPECIFICALLY IS SAY, OKAY, THERE ARE

12:46:12PM TEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DOWN HERE IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT

12:46:14PM ARE REAL ACTIVE.

12:46:15PM EACH OF YOU GET THREE MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION IN

12:46:18PM FRONT OF COUNCIL, IF YOU SO DESIRE, ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT

12:46:22PM ARE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

12:46:24PM THAT WAY WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE MEAT TO CHEW ON.

12:46:27PM I THROW THAT OUT AS AN EXAMPLE.

12:46:30PM IN EAST TAMPA, IT MIGHT BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT AGENDA, BUT

12:46:33PM LET'S NOT JUST WALK IN AND HOLD HANDS AND THAT SORT OF THING

12:46:37PM AND NOT HAVE SOMETHING --

12:46:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS A GREAT IDEA AND IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT

12:46:45PM ON COUNCILMAN GUDES AND ALL OF US SEPARATELY, OBVIOUSLY, TO

12:46:50PM WORK ON THE SPECIFICS OF IT.

12:46:51PM WE CAN VOTE ON THE STRUCTURE OF IT AND THEN WORKING WITH

12:46:54PM MR. SHELBY, ET CETERA, ON WHAT COMES FIRST.

12:47:00PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK EACH DISTRICT COUNCIL PERSON

12:47:02PM SHOULD TAKE IT ON THEMSELVES TO RUN THAT DISTRICT MEETING,
12:47:05PM ORGANIZE THE AGENDA, MARKET IT, AND THE THREE AT-LARGE WILL

12:47:10PM COME ALONG FOR THE RIDE, RIGHT, GENTLEMEN?

12:47:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS OUR DUTY.

12:47:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: STATING THE OBVIOUS, OUR JOB IS TO LISTEN TO

12:47:20PM THE PUBLIC AND THEN TRY TO IMPLEMENT WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.

12:47:23PM WE TRY TO DO THAT HERE BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN GET TO THE

12:47:26PM MEETINGS.

12:47:27PM I THINK THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF WHAT WE DO.

12:47:29PM THE OBSTACLES OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING WE

12:47:34PM NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DEFINITELY FOLLOW THE LAW, AND MAYBE

12:47:36PM EVEN SURPASS IT, BUT THESE ARE THINGS EASILY SOLVED AS LONG

12:47:41PM AS WE SAY THAT WE WANT TO DO THIS.

12:47:43PM I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS.

12:47:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT

12:47:50PM EFFECT, SIR?

12:47:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MOTION THAT WE HAVE -- MR. CHAIR, LIKE TO

12:48:00PM MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PREPARE QUARTERLY

12:48:05PM MEETINGS FOR EACH DISTRICT AS IT RELATES TO THE CONCERNS OF

12:48:08PM OUR CITIZENS, AND EACH DISTRICT PERSON BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

12:48:11PM SETTING THE AGENDA FOR THE PARTICULAR DISTRICT, FOR

12:48:15PM COORDINATING THE EFFORTS FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

12:48:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION OR FOLLOW-UP MOTION, BUT

12:48:22PM THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE THE WAY IT IS.

12:48:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:48:25PM I THINK A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:48:28PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:48:29PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:48:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU MEANT ONE PER QUARTER

12:48:36PM AND THEY WOULD REPRESENT EACH DISTRICT.

12:48:37PM IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID FOR A YEAR FOR EACH

12:48:44PM DISTRICT.

12:48:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:48:45PM GREAT.

12:48:46PM NOW, MOTIONS, REPORTS.

12:48:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.

12:48:51PM I BELIEVE IN APRIL, YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED

12:48:57PM APRIL 23rd TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.

12:49:00PM A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES, COUNCILMAN IS IT YOUR

12:49:04PM DESIRE TO SET UP THE FIRST OF THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS TO

12:49:08PM HAVE THAT IN EAST TAMPA, TO HAVE THAT IN ADVANCE BEFORE THE

12:49:11PM APRIL 23rd WORKSHOP BECAUSE IT WOULD INCLUDE THE ISSUE OF

12:49:15PM SULPHUR SPRINGS?

12:49:16PM DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS PERHAPS IF POSSIBLE

12:49:20PM WITH A DATE AND LOCATION FOR THAT OR JUST HAVE THE WORKSHOP

12:49:22PM HERE AND WE'LL WORK WITH THAT ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD?

12:49:26PM WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?

12:49:28PM I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR.

12:49:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE

12:49:32PM WORKSHOP.

12:49:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE BOTH, A WORKSHOP
12:49:38PM CENTRAL TO SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THEN A COMMUNITY MEETING, AND

12:49:41PM I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO THE DISTINGUISHED COUNCILMAN OF THE

12:49:45PM DISTRICT.

12:49:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR INTENT IS TO NOT -- YOUR INTENT IS TO

12:49:48PM HAVE A WORKSHOP ON SULPHUR SPRINGS BEFORE YOUR COMMUNITY

12:49:50PM MEETING IN YOUR DISTRICT?

12:49:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH.

12:49:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.

12:49:54PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.

12:49:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTIONS, ET CETERA.

12:49:57PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

12:49:58PM OKAY.

12:49:59PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:50:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT TODAY, MR. CHAIR.

12:50:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.

12:50:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.

12:50:05PM WE HAVE A FEW.

12:50:06PM BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS COMING UP NEXT MONTH.

12:50:10PM MR. CHAIRMAN, MOTION REQUEST THAT I'M GOING TO GIVE TODAY,

12:50:17PM THAT THE COUNCIL BE REQUESTED TO PREPARE A COMMENDATION TO

12:50:19PM THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMUNITY INC. TO PRESENT IT

12:50:22PM AT THEIR PROGRAM ON FEBRUARY 18, 2020.

12:50:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:50:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:50:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:50:33PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:50:33PM GO AHEAD, SIR.

12:50:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER TWO, THAT CELESTE GIBBONS-PEOPLES,

12:50:38PM PRESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE,

12:50:40PM INC., BE SCHEDULED ON FEBRUARY 6, 2020, UNDER CEREMONIAL

12:50:44PM ITEMS TO PREPARE AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY OF

12:50:46PM TAMPA BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROGRAM TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 18,

12:50:50PM 2020.

12:50:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:50:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:50:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:50:56PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:50:57PM GO AHEAD, SIR.

12:50:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIRD, THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BE

12:51:00PM REQUESTED TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION GRANTING PERMISSION TO USE

12:51:03PM A FACSIMILE OF THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON

12:51:06PM PROGRAMMING MATERIALS AND DIGITAL PRINT AND BROADCAST

12:51:09PM ADVERTISEMENTS AS RELATES TO THE BLACK HISTORY ACTIVITIES

12:51:12PM HOSTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE, INC.

12:51:15PM DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY WHICH ARE AS FOLLOWS: THE

12:51:18PM 32nd ANNUAL CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY CELEBRATION AND

12:51:21PM ALSO REQUESTING PERMISSION TO USE A FACSIMILE OF THE

12:51:23PM OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR PROGRAMMING MATERIAL

12:51:26PM AND ADVERTISEMENT RELATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY

12:51:29PM COMMITTEE SCHOLARSHIP AWARD CEREMONY SCHEDULED FOR MAY OF
12:51:32PM 2020 FOR PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 6,

12:51:37PM 2020.

12:51:38PM >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:51:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:51:43PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:51:44PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:51:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOURTHLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

12:51:49PM GIVE FOUR -- POLICE OFFICERS RUFUS LEWIS, FRANK GRAY, JAMES

12:51:53PM -- AND CLARENCE NATHAN A COMMENDATION FOR PAVING THE WAY

12:51:56PM TOWARDS EQUALITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

12:51:58PM THESE FOUR OFFICERS MADE A LASTING IMPACT BY BREAKING DOWN

12:52:01PM BARRIERS FOR BLACK WOMEN AND MINORITIES, RESPECTED AND EQUAL

12:52:05PM IN THE DEPARTMENT.

12:52:06PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS COMMENDATION AT REGULAR CITY

12:52:08PM COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 2020.

12:52:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:52:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:52:17PM IN ANY FAVOR?

12:52:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST TWO, STAFF REPORTS.

12:52:20PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ADMINISTRATION GIVE AN

12:52:22PM UPDATE ON THE ZION HILL CEMETERY SITUATION ALONG WITH THE

12:52:25PM ADJACENT PRIVATE PROPERTY UPDATES AS WELL.

12:52:27PM PLEASE PROVIDE ANY ACTIONS THE CITY IS TAKING ON ANY

12:52:30PM FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS, IF ANY, WITHIN THE SUMMARY.

12:52:32PM ALSO, ANY COMPLETED TIME FRAMES -- AND COMPLETED TIME
12:52:36PM FRAMES.

12:52:37PM I WOULD LIKE STAFF REPORT PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY 20 OF 2020.

12:52:41PM ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE AS IT RELATES TO THE ZION CEMETERY

12:52:44PM WITH THE SAME MOTION BEING MADE WITH UPDATES, FINANCIAL

12:52:49PM MONETARY, AND SO FORTH.

12:52:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:52:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:52:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:52:55PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:52:56PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU WANT APPEARANCE OF

12:52:58PM STAFF ON THE LAST TWO?

12:53:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ON THE LAST TWO --

12:53:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?

12:53:07PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMAN GUDES DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE

12:53:10PM CHARGING $25 PER MOTION.

12:53:12PM TWO ITEMS.

12:53:19PM EARLIER, WE SPOKE TO THE SORT OF LACK OF FUNDING WITHIN OUR

12:53:22PM PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENTS AND NEW

12:53:26PM BUILDINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

12:53:27PM SO I'D LIKE A REPORT BACK FROM LEGAL STAFF AND POSSIBLY

12:53:33PM PARKS AS TO THE FEASIBILITY IF WE DON'T -- ASSUMING WE DON'T

12:53:37PM HAVE IT ALREADY OF A POSSIBLE IMPACT FEE, A PARK IMPACT FEE.

12:53:44PM I GOOGLED IT UP REAL QUICK.

12:53:46PM I SAW THAT ORANGE COUNTY AND ORLANDO AND LAKE COUNTY AND

12:53:50PM MANY OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE
12:53:52PM STATE HAVE A PARK IMPACT FEE.

12:53:54PM THE ONE I SAW IN ORANGE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ORLANDO IS

12:53:58PM SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 900 TO 1,000 DOLLARS PER

12:54:02PM NEW RESIDENCE.

12:54:03PM IF YOU THINK ABOUT, IF YOU INCLUDE CONDOS AND BIG BUILDINGS

12:54:07PM THAT ARE GOING UP AROUND HERE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY A

12:54:13PM MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR, JUST SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT

12:54:15PM WE'VE SEEN GO UP.

12:54:17PM SO WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO REPORT BACK FROM STAFF AND

12:54:20PM LEGAL FEBRUARY 20th.

12:54:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:54:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:54:27PM ANY IN FAVOR?

12:54:29PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:54:29PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK AS PART OF THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO

12:54:32PM COMMISSION A STUDY THAT JUSTIFIES.

12:54:34PM USUALLY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS FOR IMPACT FEES BECAUSE YOU HAVE

12:54:36PM TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT AND FIND A LEGAL BASIS FOR IT.

12:54:41PM SECONDLY, I WAS SAD TO HEAR TODAY THAT THE CITY WILL BE

12:54:45PM LOSING CATHY COYLE AS A STAFF PERSON.

12:54:49PM CATHY HAS DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB FOR HOW MANY YEARS?

12:54:53PM 19 YEARS WITH THE CITY, AND MANY OF THOSE IN A VERY

12:54:58PM SIGNIFICANT SUPERVISORY CAPACITY.

12:55:00PM SHE AND GLORIA MOREDA, REALLY LEADING THAT DEPARTMENT FOR

12:55:05PM MANY YEARS.
12:55:06PM I'M SORRY I MISSED GLORIA WHEN SHE LEFT.

12:55:09PM I WOULD LIKE US TO GIVE CATHY COYLE COMMENDATION ON

12:55:12PM FEBRUARY 6, WHICH I BELIEVE IS SHORTLY BEFORE HER DEPARTURE.

12:55:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION -- MR. SHELBY, HOW MANY

12:55:18PM COMMENDATIONS DO WE HAVE THAT DAY?

12:55:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FEBRUARY 6, YOU HAVE THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF

12:55:29PM THE MONTH, MR. TOKLEY, MS. KERT.

12:55:33PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE HAVE BEEN ADDED FOR FEBRUARY --

12:55:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU MIND MOVING IT

12:55:39PM TO THE NEXT ONE?

12:55:40PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS BEFORE SHE LEAVES.

12:55:43PM SHE AND REBECCA -- THIS WOULD PUT SHE AND REBECCA --

12:55:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IS SHE LEAVING?

12:55:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 7th.

12:55:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:55:52PM LET'S DO IT.

12:55:53PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHY I DID IT.

12:55:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:55:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:56:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:56:01PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:56:02PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

12:56:03PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU.

12:56:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST BRIEFLY, I HAVE --

12:56:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A MOTION, IF I CAN, MR. CHAIR, THAT
12:56:09PM I'LL ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

12:56:10PM THIS IS AT THE REQUEST -- I'M ASKING COUNCIL, AT THE REQUEST

12:56:15PM OF THE HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION TO AMEND THE MOTION

12:56:18PM APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 16, 2020 AT THE EVENING

12:56:22PM SESSION TO READ THAT PLEASE SET A PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION

12:56:26PM HEARING FOR TACPA 19-17 AND TACPA 19-20, AND A PLAN

12:56:35PM AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR TACPA 19-18 A-G AND TACPA

12:56:43PM 19-21 ON THE EVENING OF MARCH 26th AT 5:01 P.M.

12:56:50PM AND ALSO AT THE REQUEST OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING

12:56:53PM COMMISSION, PLEASE RESCIND THAT PART OF THE MOTION THAT

12:56:56PM APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 16, 2020 AT THE EVENING

12:57:00PM SESSION THAT WHICH SET A PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION PUBLIC

12:57:03PM HEARING FOR TA-CPA 1919 ON THE EVENING OF MARCH 12th, 2020

12:57:12PM AT 5:30 P.M.

12:57:14PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

12:57:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO WOULD LIKE --

12:57:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: -- MOTION AND THE RESCINDING.

12:57:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION, A VERY CRYPTIC MOTION BY

12:57:25PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:57:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:57:29PM ANY OPPOSED?

12:57:29PM THANK YOU.

12:57:30PM JUST VERY BRIEFLY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN

12:57:34PM THAT'S BEING DONE FOR PARKS, AND I TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY

12:57:37PM DOING SOMETHING, WHAT I CALL AN EQUIVALENT OF A MASTER PLAN
12:57:40PM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

12:57:43PM RECENTLY, COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF EAST

12:57:45PM TAMPA FIRE RESPONSE TIME, AND WE'VE MADE SOME GOOD JOURNEYS

12:57:50PM IN THAT REGARD.

12:57:51PM WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING SOON ABOUT FIRE STATION 13 WHICH

12:57:54PM SERVICES THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.

12:57:56PM MY WHOLE IDEA IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT PUBLIC

12:58:01PM SAFETY, WHETHER FOR POLICE, FIRE, E.M.S., ET CETERA, HERE IN

12:58:04PM THE CITY ON A PIECE BY PIECE BASIS.

12:58:07PM WE OUGHT TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE VISION AVAILABLE TO US ALL

12:58:10PM AT ONCE ON THINGS LIKE RESPONSE TIMES, FIRE ISSUES, POLICE

12:58:15PM ISSUES, ET CETERA, ALL OF THE CITY SO WE CAN HAVE A

12:58:19PM COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS THROUGHOUT

12:58:21PM THE CITY.

12:58:23PM WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT IT

12:58:25PM COST TO FIX THE NEEDS, AND EVENTUALLY THE BRIDGE ON HOW TO

12:58:29PM GET THERE TO FIX THOSE NEEDS.

12:58:30PM SO THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO AT THE MAY 2020 WORKSHOP --

12:58:37PM WHEN IS THAT --

12:58:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR.

12:58:44PM MADAM CLERK, DO YOU HAVE THE CALENDAR?

12:58:46PM MS. FOXX-KNOWLES HANDED IT TO ME.

12:58:54PM THE WORKSHOP DATE ON MAY IS MAY 28.

12:58:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

12:58:59PM SO I WOULD MOTION THAT AS PART OF EFFORTS TO CREATE A MASTER
12:59:02PM PLAN TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY MATTERS AND HOLISTIC

12:59:05PM COMPREHENSIVE WAY, I MOTION FOR CITY STAFF TO PRESENT

12:59:08PM RESPONSE TIMES FOR POLICE AND FIRE CITYWIDE, FURTHER THAT

12:59:11PM SAID FINDINGS BE PROVIDED COUNCIL AT THE AFOREMENTIONED

12:59:14PM MAY 28th WORKSHOP WITH AN EYE ON A MASTER PLAN STUDY OR

12:59:18PM STUDY EQUIVALENT, WHETHER DONE INTERNALLY OR EXTERNALLY, WE

12:59:21PM CAN LEAVE THAT TO THE ADMINISTRATION, ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY

12:59:25PM NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA INCLUDING THE NEEDS, COSTS

12:59:28PM AND HOW TO GET THERE.

12:59:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A

12:59:32PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:59:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:59:35PM ALL RIGHT.

12:59:35PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

12:59:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

12:59:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, IF I CAN, I JUST NOTICED FROM

12:59:40PM THE CALENDAR THAT MS. FOXX-KNOWLES GAVE TO ME IT APPEARS

12:59:44PM THAT THE SULPHUR SPRINGS WORKSHOP IS SET FOR THE APRIL DATE

12:59:48PM AND THE MAY 28th DATE.

12:59:49PM IT APPEARS TWICE.

12:59:52PM I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT.

12:59:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S ALWAYS MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN IN

12:59:55PM APRIL.

12:59:56PM IT WAS COUNCILMAN GUDES' MOTION.

1:00:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT TODAY.
1:00:03PM I'M AWARE OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE IT

1:00:06PM SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD.

1:00:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

1:00:07PM RECEIVE AND FILE?

1:00:08PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:00:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

1:00:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE DO THAT, JUST MY -- OUR

1:00:17PM CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF JERRY FRANKHOUSER FROM THAN WHO

1:00:21PM PASSED AWAY EARLIER THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK.

1:00:24PM HE WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH HIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WITH

1:00:28PM THAN, WITH THE CITY.

1:00:30PM HE WOULD COME TO MANY, MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, MANY

1:00:33PM TIMES WITH MARGARET VIZZI.

1:00:35PM SO MY CONDOLENCES, OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY.

1:00:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DEFER TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:00:41PM GO AHEAD.

1:00:42PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, GUIDO, FOR MENTIONING THAT.

1:00:47PM JERRY AND I GO WAY BACK.

1:00:48PM SOMETIMES WE BUTTED HEADS, BUT WE WERE ALWAYS POLITE TO EACH

1:00:53PM OTHER.

1:00:53PM HE VOLUNTEERED AND VOLUNTEERED AND VOLUNTEERED TO REPRESENT

1:00:56PM HIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN ULTIMATELY ALL NEIGHBORHOODS.

1:00:59PM WE'LL MISS JERRY.

1:01:00PM MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO ANN AND HIS FAMILY.

1:01:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:01:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF BOTH OF OUR

1:01:07PM COUNCILMEN HERE.

1:01:08PM HE WAS A VERY FINE MAN, AND HE ALWAYS BACKED UP WHAT HE SAID

1:01:13PM AND HIS MAJOR CONCERN WAS THE COMMUNITY.

1:01:15PM HE WILL BE MISSED.

1:01:16PM ON A LIGHTER NOTE, I WISH TO WISH HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR

1:01:23PM CHAIRMAN, LUIS VIERA, WHO IS, WHAT, 38 YEARS YOUNG.

1:01:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: 42.

1:01:28PM >> DOESN'T LOOK A DAY OVER 40.

1:01:31PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

1:01:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

1:01:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

1:01:35PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN

1:01:37PM MANISCALCO.

1:01:38PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

1:01:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:01:40PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:01:42PM THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

1:01:43PM HAVE A GOOD ONE.

1:01:44PM THANK YOU.

1:01:47PM >> I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL.

1:01:48PM GOOD AFTERNOON.

1:01:50PM -- NOT GETTING THIS OUT TO YOU SOONER.

1:01:52PM RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

1:01:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO RECONVENE.
1:01:57PM I HEREBY RECONVENE.

1:02:05PM >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

1:02:06PM >> GUDES?

1:02:07PM MANISCALCO?

1:02:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

1:02:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

1:02:10PM >> MIRANDA?

1:02:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

1:02:13PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

1:02:14PM AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.

1:02:16PM I WAS JUST PREPARING THE NEW ORDINANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 57

1:02:19PM WHICH CORRECTED THE TYPO, WHICH SAID OAKDAVE, INSTEAD OF

1:02:24PM OAKDALE.

1:02:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU'RE ASKING THAT COUNCIL MOVE THE

1:02:32PM SUBSTITUTION.

1:02:32PM WILL IT BE NECESSARY TO REREAD THE TITLE ON THE SUBSTITUTE

1:02:35PM ORDINANCE?

1:02:35PM THEY READ THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE --

1:02:42PM THE TITLE DID CHANGE WITH THE SCRIVENER ERROR THAT'S

1:02:44PM CONTAINED IN THE TITLE.

1:02:46PM >> IT WOULD BE AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WHETHER THEY WANT TO

1:02:50PM REREAD THE TITLE.

1:02:54PM >> OUR RECOLLECTION IS WHEN THEY READ IT, THEY READ IT

1:02:56PM CORRECTLY AND NOTED THE SPELLING.

1:02:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COMING BACK FOR SECOND READING.
1:03:02PM >> YES, IT IS.

1:03:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE.

1:03:07PM [INAUDIBLE]

1:03:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:03:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

1:03:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:03:13PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:03:13PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

1:03:15PM >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:03:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

1:03:18PM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

1:03:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:03:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:03:21PM ANY OPPOSED?

1:03:22PM THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

1:03:23PM HAVE A GOOD ONE.

1:03:24PM [ADJOURNMENT]



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