TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 30, 2020
9:00 A.M.
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09:03:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:03:44 I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO ORDER.
09:03:49 I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR TODAY'S INVOCATION AND TO
09:03:54 WELCOME OUR GUESTS AFTER THE INVOCATION AS WE ARE STANDING.
09:03:59 WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:04:00 AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WE'LL SIT, AND I'M GOING TO
09:04:03 YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN THE
09:04:07 MEETING.
09:04:07 SO COUNCILMAN CITRO, TAKE IT AWAY.
09:04:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:04:13 EXCUSE MY TARDINESS.
09:04:15 TODAY, I DO HAVE THE PLEASURE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TO
09:04:20 INTRODUCE TO YOU TAMPA'S POET LAUREATE.
09:04:24 HE WILL NOT ONLY BE GIVING US THE INVOCATION, BUT HE WILL BE
09:04:29 GIVING, RECITING ONE OF HIS POEMS THAT HE GAVE MANY YEARS
09:04:33 AGO.
09:04:33 PLEASE TAKE HEED TO HIS WORDS.
09:04:35 THESE WORDS ARE VERY, VERY STRONG.
09:04:37 AND IF WE COULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR MR. TOKLEY, HIS
09:04:42 INVOCATION, AND HIS POEM.
09:04:50 >> TODAY WE PRAY THE PEOPLE'S PRAYER, A PRAYER OF ETHICS,
09:05:05 COMMON SENSE, AND CONSTITUTION, FREE AND CLEAR.
09:05:16 THAT LEADS US TRUST AND HOPE, LEADS US HENCE.
09:05:27 AND AS DONE IN DECADES PAST, WE DEDICATE BOTH OUR HEARTS AND
09:05:37 SOULS TO COUNCIL DEMOCRATIC FAST AND PAST WHOSE WISDOM IS
09:05:56 THE BOTTOM FAR AND BOLD.
09:05:59 WE PRAY FOR ALL THE DAYS OF COUNCIL DEMOCRATIC WAYS.
09:06:16 AND IN SO DOING, MAY WE KEEP THE PEOPLE'S SPIRIT STRONG AND
09:06:32 DEEP.
09:06:33 AMEN.
09:06:33 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:06:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL?
09:06:51 ROLL CALL.
09:06:55 >> DINGFELDER?
09:06:57 GUDES.
09:06:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:06:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:06:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:07:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:07:01 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:07:03 >> VIERA?
09:07:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NOW YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO
09:07:07 GUDES.
09:07:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:07:11 MR. CITRO, IT'S A SURPRISE THAT YOU HAVE MR. TOKLEY HERE,
09:07:15 ONE OF MY MENTORS AND SOMEONE WHO GOT ME THROUGH DARKER DAYS
09:07:19 WHEN I WAS A YOUNG POLICE OFFICER COMING ON THE FORCE.
09:07:23 YESTERDAY WAS A DARK DAY.
09:07:24 LAST NIGHT WAS A DARK NIGHT FOR ME.
09:07:27 WHEN I COME TO COUNCIL TODAY AND I SEE MR. TOKLEY HERE, I
09:07:31 SEE LIGHT.
09:07:33 WE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT, NO MATTER WHAT SITUATIONS YOU ALWAYS
09:07:37 FACE AND THEN MOVE ON.
09:07:38 BUT I HAVE A PUBLIC STATEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE FOR A
09:07:41 PRESS RELEASE AND TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT MY CHARACTER
09:07:45 IS.
09:07:45 I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY THAT
09:07:50 MIGHT HAVE FUELED A FEW PEOPLE IN OUR CITY.
09:07:52 AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER RAN A STORY
09:07:55 REGARDING A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH A REPORTER.
09:07:56 IT WAS REPORTED THAT I MADE AN ANTI-SEMITIC COMMENT.
09:08:02 AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN WHO HAS FACED GREAT AMOUNTS OF
09:08:07 DISCRIMINATION IN MY PERSONAL CAREER, I'M ACUTELY AWARE OF
09:08:10 THE DANGERS OF DISCRIMINATION.
09:08:11 THOSE WHO KNOW ME BEST, I DO NOT HOLD ANY HOSTILITY OR
09:08:18 PREJUDICE AGAINST ANYONE.
09:08:21 I'VE SPOKEN TO MY COLLEAGUES ON COUNCIL, AND THEY CAN ATTEST
09:08:24 THAT MY DESIRE TO MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE FOR EVERYONE.
09:08:29 OUR FUTURE IS BRIGHT.
09:08:31 IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMAIN FOCUSED ON IMPROVING THE
09:08:34 LIVES OF EVERY RESIDENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:08:36 I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS DISTRACTION.
09:08:40 MY PLAN FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS TO BUILD A MORE UNIFIED
09:08:45 CITY THAT WE WILL ALL LOVE AND ARE PROUD TO CALL OUR HOME.
09:08:50 I LOVE TAMPA.
09:08:54 I LOVE THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY, AND I'M HERE TO WORK ON
09:08:58 THE BEHALF OF EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE, WHO
09:09:03 THEY LOVE, OR WHERE THEY WORSHIP.
09:09:07 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:09:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:10 OKAY.
09:09:11 WE NOW GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS.
09:09:15 I BELIEVE THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH IS GOING TO BE
09:09:19 RESCHEDULED.
09:09:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:09:22 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I SAY ONE THING ABOUT JAMES TOKLEY?
09:09:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
09:09:26 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY.
09:09:27 I CALLED HIM PROFESSOR TOKLEY.
09:09:30 WHEN I WAS A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, I STARTED
09:09:33 OUT AS A POETRY MAJOR.
09:09:36 HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PROFESSORS THAT I HAD AT
09:09:38 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
09:09:39 I STAYED IN TOUCH WITH HIM OVER THE YEARS.
09:09:41 HE WAS A MENTOR AND CONSULTANT TO ME AND MY FIRM.
09:09:45 I'VE DONE A BAD JOB STAYING IN TOUCH THE LAST FIVE OR SO
09:09:48 YEARS.
09:09:49 I WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE HIM INSPIRING ME EARLY
09:09:52 IN MY CAREER.
09:09:53 I ENDED UP NOT BECOMING A POET BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INSPIRED
09:09:56 BY HIS WORDS AND EFFORTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:09:58 I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR EVERYTHING HE'S DONE OVER HIS
09:10:01 CAREER.
09:10:02 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:10:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, BEFORE I GIVE COMMENDATIONS, I
09:10:11 WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT MR. TOKLEY WAS
09:10:17 RECOGNIZED AS POET LAUREATE BY DICK GRECO IN 1996 AND THEN
09:10:21 BY THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS THEIR POET LAUREATE IN 2013.
09:10:25 HE EARNED HIS MASTER'S DEGREE IN ENGLISH OF EDUCATION AT
09:10:31 TEMPLE UNIVERSITY AND HIS DOCTORATE OF EDUCATION, HIS
09:10:35 Ph.D. IN AMERICAN LITERATURE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
09:10:37 FLORIDA -- GO BULLS.
09:10:40 HIS WIFE IS GOING TO BE HERE TODAY.
09:10:43 AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO RECOGNIZE HER.
09:10:46 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:10:49 MR. CHAIR, I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT SENIOR CORPORATE
09:10:53 JARED DOUDS JOIN US NEXT MONTH.
09:10:58 JARED IS OUT IN TRAINING TODAY.
09:11:02 HE IS IN I BELIEVE FT. LAUDERDALE, AND HE'S TRAINING OTHER
09:11:06 TPD OFFICERS HOW TO HELP US BETTER.
09:11:09 SO HOPEFULLY I CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION.
09:11:12 IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, WE CAN DO TWO OFFICERS OF THE MONTH NEXT
09:11:15 MONTH.
09:11:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO
09:11:18 RESCHEDULING THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH COMMENDATION TO
09:11:20 NEXT MONTH.
09:11:21 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:11:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:11:23 ALL RIGHT.
09:11:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:11:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OF
09:11:28 COMMENDATION FOR THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
09:11:34 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:11:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH HONOR.
09:11:37 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I KNOW I SAY THIS CONSTANTLY ABOUT
09:11:42 TPD.
09:11:44 WE HAVE A PROGRAM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE TAMPA FIRE
09:11:49 RESCUE CITIZENS ACADEMY.
09:11:52 IF YOU WISH TO SEE WHAT THESE BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN DO TO HELP
09:11:58 KEEP US SAFE, PLEASE, I ASK THAT YOU ATTEND ONE OF THESE
09:12:05 CITIZENS ACADEMIES AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO.
09:12:09 NOW, I'M SORRY, MY GRAMMAR IS NOT GOOD TODAY, BUT TODAY,
09:12:18 CAPTAIN DAVID HOHENTHANER.
09:12:27 BECAUSE OF HIS DEDICATION TO SERVICE -- COME OVER HERE.
09:12:34 RIGHT HERE.
09:12:35 BECAUSE OF HIS DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY TO
09:12:41 EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY, YOU
09:12:44 HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THIS MARK OF DISTINCTION AS FIREFIGHTER
09:12:47 OF THE QUARTER, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOUR PEERS AND
09:12:50 SUPERVISORS WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION
09:12:53 AND DILIGENCE.
09:12:56 WE RECOGNIZE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN ENSURING THE AIRPORT RESCUE
09:13:00 AND FIREFIGHTERS, THE ARFF DIVISION, SUCCESSFULLY
09:13:05 TRANSITIONING THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND COUNTLESS HOURS YOU
09:13:08 HAVE VOLUNTEERED IN TRAINING OTHER MEMBERS AND YOUR PASSION
09:13:12 AND DEDICATION FOR HELPING OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:13:17 I'M GOING TO STEP ASIDE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMEONE
09:13:21 HERE THAT IS GOING TO GIVE YOU EVEN MORE ACCOLADES.
09:13:26 YOU STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.
09:13:44 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:13:45 THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.
09:13:46 ON BEHALF OF FIRE CHIEF NICK LOCICERO, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE
09:13:50 THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT CAPTAIN DAVID HOHENTHANER AS
09:13:53 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
09:13:56 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER IS A 22-YEAR VETERAN WITH TAMPA FIRE
09:13:58 RESCUE WHO HAS A DIVERSE BACKGROUND WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE,
09:14:02 WHICH INCLUDES AIRPORT FIREFIGHTING, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL
09:14:05 OPERATIONS, AND FIRE PREVENTION PRACTICES.
09:14:07 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER WAS PREVIOUSLY AWARDED A MEDAL OF VALOR
09:14:10 FOR ASSISTING THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT S.W.A.T. TEAM WITH
09:14:13 REMOVING A VIOLENT SUSPECT FROM A BURNING APARTMENT THAT THE
09:14:16 SUSPECT HAD BOOBY-TRAPPED WITH PROPANE TANKS WITH AN INTENT
09:14:20 TO HARM FIRST RESPONDERS.
09:14:22 IN ADDITION, CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER WAS OFF-DUTY AT A HOLIDAY
09:14:24 EVENT WHEN A CITIZEN COLLAPSED FROM A HEART ATTACK.
09:14:28 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER'S QUICK RESPONSE TO THE CITIZEN, HE
09:14:31 PROVIDED CPR TO ASSIST THE CITIZEN, AND BECAUSE OF HIS QUICK
09:14:35 ACTIONS, THE CITIZEN HAS MADE A COMPLETE RECOVERY THIS DAY.
09:14:38 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER HAS BEEN A KEY FIGURE IN THE PRODUCTION
09:14:41 OF VIDEOS THAT ARE SHOWN AT THE FIREFIGHTER AWARDS BANQUET
09:14:45 BY VOLUNTEERING HIS TIME AND EQUIPMENT TO CAPTURE THE
09:14:48 FOOTAGE THAT HIGHLIGHTS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE PERSONNEL AT THEIR
09:14:51 BEST.
09:14:51 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER'S EFFORTS IN THIS AREA HAVE BEEN
09:14:54 RECOGNIZED AT A NATIONAL LEVEL, AS EVIDENT BY HIS VIDEO, THE
09:14:58 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE NEW RECRUIT, RECEIVING THE INTERNATIONAL
09:15:01 GOLD AWARD IN HOLLYWOOD.
09:15:04 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER ALSO PRODUCED A VIDEO, ONE TEAM, ONE
09:15:07 FIGHT, EXPLOSIVE AWARENESS, THAT WAS USED TO TRAIN AND
09:15:10 PREPARE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL PRIOR TO THE 2012 RNC.
09:15:16 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER HAD RECENTLY DEVELOPED AND SUCCESSFULLY
09:15:18 PRESENTED A NEW FAA STANDARDS COURSE THAT ALLOWS FOR
09:15:21 HIGH-QUALITY TRAINING FOR NEWLY ASSIGNED PERSONNEL TO THE
09:15:24 AIRPORT DIVISION.
09:15:25 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER HAS A PASSION FOR HELPING OTHERS, AND IT
09:15:29 IS EVIDENT BY HIS CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO MULTIPLE
09:15:33 COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE LEIGH DITTMAN
09:15:35 FOUNDATION, SHRINER'S HOSPITAL, GIVE KIDS THE WORLD
09:15:40 FOUNDATION, METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, FEEDING TAMPA BAY, AND
09:15:45 THE LAXER FAMILY FOUNDATION.
09:15:46 CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER HAD DEDICATED HIS CAREER TO IMPROVING
09:15:53 OUR ORGANIZATION BY BEING A LEADER, DEVELOPING TRAINING
09:15:57 INITIATIVES, VOLUNTEERING HIS TIME AND EXTENDING A HELPING
09:16:00 HAND TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
09:16:01 IT IS FOR THESE REASONS LISTED HERE TODAY THAT CAPTAIN
09:16:05 HOHENTHANER HAS BEEN SELECTED AS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE'S
09:16:10 FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
09:16:11 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:17 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:16:18 THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO RECOGNIZE OUR VERY
09:16:21 OWN.
09:16:21 DISTRICT CHIEF HANSON, ALSO CHAIRMAN OF THE AWARDS REVIEW
09:16:24 BOARD.
09:16:25 WHEN WE GET THESE CANDIDATES THAT COME IN QUARTERLY,
09:16:27 SOMETIMES IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND ONE THAT WE CAN KIND OF
09:16:31 DELINEATE WHICH ONE HAS A LITTLE MORE OF AN EDGE THAN THE
09:16:34 OTHERS.
09:16:35 THIS WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE, BUT CAPTAIN HOHENTHANER
09:16:38 HAS GIVEN US A LOT OF THINGS TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR.
09:16:40 ON BEHALF OF THE AWARDS REVIEW BOARD, I'D LIKE TO HONOR HIM
09:16:43 WITH THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, FIREFIGHTER OF THE
09:16:47 QUARTER.
09:16:48 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:55 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:16:56 JOE GRECO, TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL PRESIDENT, ANDREW
09:17:00 CARTER, VICE PRESIDENT.
09:17:01 WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE DAVID AN AWARD, THIS RECOGNITION
09:17:05 PLAQUE AND $50 GIFT CARD AND SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON
09:17:08 FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
09:17:18 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:17:19 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND GOOD MORNING CAPTAIN.
09:17:23 I'M BOB WITH CASPERS COMPANY, McDONALD'S RESTAURANTS.
09:17:27 ON BEHALF OF OUR OVER 4,000 EMPLOYEES, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE
09:17:31 YOU NOT JUST FOR WHAT THAT PROFILE SAID, BUT FOR BEING
09:17:36 SIGNIFICANT.
09:17:36 WE'RE ALL PUT HERE TO SERVE IN OUR CAPACITIES, WHATEVER THEY
09:17:40 ARE.
09:17:41 AND YOU SERVE IN AN OUTSTANDING MANNER, AND WE ARE JUST SO
09:17:45 PROUD TO GIVE YOU A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION, DINNER
09:17:48 FOR FOUR AND SOME TCHOTCHKES.
09:17:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:17:54 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:17:57 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:17:59 DONNA McBRIDE WITH THE STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING
09:18:02 ARTS.
09:18:02 CAPTAIN, WE ARE SO GLAD TO HAVE A PERSON OF YOUR CHARACTER
09:18:05 AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:18:08 ON BEHALF OF THE 600,000 PEOPLE THAT OUR CENTER SERVES EACH
09:18:11 YEAR, YOU KEEP US SAFE AND YOU KEEP US SAFE DAY AND NIGHT.
09:18:16 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:18:17 I HAVE FOR YOU A PACKET THAT HAS TICKETS TO THE BROADWAY
09:18:23 SHOW JERSEY BOYS AND TICKETS TO AMC THEATER.
09:18:28 PLEASE ENJOY.
09:18:29 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:29 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:32 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:18:34 MICHAEL KILGORE, GONZMART FAMILY RESTAURANTS.
09:18:37 ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY, WE CELEBRATE 115 YEARS
09:18:40 CONTINUOUS FAMILY OWNERSHIP THIS YEAR.
09:18:42 A GIFT CARD FOR $115.
09:18:44 COME DINE WITH US.
09:18:45 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:18:47 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:49 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:18:50 LISA WITH THE DOUBLETREE TAMPA AIRPORT.
09:18:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:18:55 WE HAVE A TWO-NIGHT STAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
09:18:58 BREAKFAST FOR TWO AND TINS OF DOUBLETREE COOKIES.
09:19:03 NOW YOU GET TWO BECAUSE THERE'S NO POLICE OFFICER OF THE
09:19:04 MONTH.
09:19:05 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:12 >> TAMPA THEATRE.
09:19:13 CAPTAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, I'M
09:19:17 HONORED TO GIVE YOU A MEMBERSHIP TO THE THEATER.
09:19:20 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:19:22 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:25 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:19:26 MY NAME IS JONATHAN.
09:19:29 TAMPA-HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
09:19:31 ON BEHALF OF THAT ORGANIZATION I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A
09:19:34 TOKEN OF MY APPRECIATION TO YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU.
09:19:36 >> THANK YOU.
09:19:37 MY PLEASURE.
09:19:37 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:41 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:19:42 MARY LOU BAILEY.
09:19:43 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
09:19:45 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:19:47 IN RECOGNITION OF THAT, THE CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEER ON THE
09:19:50 BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS PROVIDED WITH YOU A YEARLONG FAMILY
09:19:53 MEMBERSHIP TO ZOO TAMPA.
09:19:54 IT INCLUDES ADMISSION TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND THINGS.
09:19:56 PLEASE COME OUT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND LOVE
09:20:00 NATURE.
09:20:01 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:01 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:20:05 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:20:08 MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:20:13 YOU HAVE A LOT OF PLACES TO GO SO TAKE A NIGHT OUT IN OUR
09:20:16 COMPANY LIMOUSINE.
09:20:17 $50 BASS PRO GIFT CARD.
09:20:19 CONGRATULATIONS, YOU EARNED.
09:20:21 TAKE SOME TIME OFF.
09:20:22 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:20:26 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:20:27 PETE BREVY, BUSCH GARDENS TAMPA.
09:20:30 AS I ALWAYS SAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF
09:20:34 OBVIOUSLY THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER AND POLICE OFFICER
09:20:36 OF THE MONTH.
09:20:36 IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THESE COMMUNITY HEROES.
09:20:39 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO BE PART OF IT AS WELL AS
09:20:43 ALL THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
09:20:45 SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FROM STUART CLARK AND BUSCH
09:20:48 GARDENS EMPLOYEES AND ADVENTURE ISLAND OF TAMPA.
09:20:51 THANKS FOR KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND THANKS FOR
09:20:56 PREPARING THE NEXT GENERATION TO GO ON AS YOU DO.
09:20:59 WE HAVE FOUR TICKETS TO OUR PARK AND RIDE WITH MIKE'S LIMO
09:21:02 AND COME SEE US.
09:21:04 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:21:09 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:21:09 STEVE MICHELINI.
09:21:13 FIRST, I'D LIKE TO REACH OUT AND THANK ALL OF THE PEOPLE
09:21:16 FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR THE GREAT JOB THEY DID AT
09:21:19 GASPARILLA AND ALSO FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL
09:21:22 THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS.
09:21:23 I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
09:21:26 A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT SUPPORT YOU AND THESE OFFICERS OF
09:21:30 THE MONTH AND THE FIREFIGHTERS OF THE QUARTER, THEY
09:21:33 RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU DO.
09:21:35 AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING A GREAT JOB
09:21:38 FOR US.
09:21:38 JIM CARSON CAN'T BE HERE TODAY.
09:21:42 IS THE OVERHEAD ON?
09:21:44 HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS CAR LATER.
09:21:50 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:21:50 BUT THIS IS THE BEST THAT WE COULD DO OVERNIGHT WAS TO GIVE
09:21:56 YOU THIS 2020 MUSTANG THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO TAKE HOME.
09:22:01 >> VERY NICE, THANK YOU.
09:22:03 >> THIS IS YOUR RECEIPT.
09:22:04 PRESTIGE PORTRAITS IS GOING TO PROVIDE WITH YOU GIFT
09:22:14 CERTIFICATES SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR FAMILY PORTRAITS TAKEN.
09:22:17 CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP PROVIDING YOU WITH YOUR CHOICE,
09:22:22 BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER.
09:22:24 ON BEHALF OF FORBICI RESTAURANT IN HYDE PARK, IF YOU HAVEN'T
09:22:28 BEEN THERE, YOU'LL GET TO GO THERE NOW AND ENJOY YOURSELF.
09:22:32 YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
09:22:35 GREAT PLACE.
09:22:36 ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS LIKE TO GO WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.
09:22:40 THE TAMPA YMCA IS PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE SO
09:22:44 YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.
09:22:46 AGAIN, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO DID
09:22:49 A GREAT JOB.
09:22:50 I THINK EVERYONE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME AT GASPARILLA.
09:22:52 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR DEDICATION.
09:22:54 >> THANK YOU.
09:22:54 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:23:02 >> CAPTAIN, IT IS THE HONOR OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT
09:23:05 YOU THIS COMMENDATION, THE 30th DAY OF JANUARY, 2020.
09:23:09 AND LET'S GET ONE QUICK -- A COUPLE OF QUICK PICTURES HERE,
09:23:13 BECAUSE I KNOW, CAPTAIN, THE SUCCESS MEANS NOTHING UNLESS
09:23:20 YOU HAVE SOMEONE TO SHARE IT WITH.
09:23:22 YOU HAVE YOUR FAMILY HERE, SO, PLEASE, NOW IT IS YOUR TURN.
09:23:26 >> YES, SIR.
09:23:26 THANK YOU.
09:23:27 THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE MAYOR,
09:23:37 FIRE CHIEF LOCICERO, HIS EXECUTIVE STAFF, THE AWARDS
09:23:44 COMMITTEE, LOCAL 754, THE BUSINESSES AND BUSINESS OWNERS
09:23:47 THAT HAVE PROVIDED ME WITH THE GIFTS TODAY.
09:23:49 THANK YOU.
09:23:49 MY CREW, EVERYBODY I SERVE WITH HERE, I APPRECIATE ALL WE'VE
09:23:56 DONE TOGETHER, AND THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT WITH ME.
09:24:00 AND MOST OF ALL MY FAMILY.
09:24:02 MY MOM, DAD, SISTER, AND MY SON DYLAN.
09:24:07 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:24:08 THE LAST 22 YEARS HAVE GONE BY IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE.
09:24:20 IT IS SAID CHOOSE A JOB YOU LOVE AND YOU'LL NEVER WORK A DAY
09:24:23 IN YOUR LIFE.
09:24:24 THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TIMES I REALIZED THIS PHRASE WAS
09:24:26 TRUE FOR ME.
09:24:27 THE FIRST WAS THE BEGINNING OF MY CAREER WORKING ALONGSIDE
09:24:30 OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:24:33 THEY ARE SIMPLY THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DO AND KNOWING I WAS A
09:24:36 MEMBER OF THAT FAMILY NOW GAVE ME GREAT PRIDE.
09:24:39 THE SECOND TIME, SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT HAPPENS IN YOUR
09:24:44 HEART AND IS OUT WHEN YOU'RE PART OF A FAMILY THAT HELPS
09:24:47 SOMEONE, WHETHER A MEDICAL CALL, STRUCTURE FIRE, OR JUST
09:24:51 SIMPLY HELPING GRANDMA BACK IN BED.
09:24:53 AND JUST SIMPLY GIVING BACK.
09:24:56 THIS WAS A CONFIRMATION I HAD FOUND MY DREAM JOB, AND THAT'S
09:25:00 WHEN THIS JOB BECAME A CAREER.
09:25:02 I'M HONORED BY MY SON DYLAN, WHO IS FOLLOWING MY FOOTSTEPS,
09:25:08 CURRENTLY A FIREFIGHTER WITH PLANT CITY KNOWING HE'LL HAVE
09:25:11 THE SAME FULFILLMENT IN LIFE THAT I'VE HAD.
09:25:14 I PRAY ONE DAY HE WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN THE TFR FAMILY.
09:25:20 BEING HERE TODAY CONFIRMS I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR TAMPA
09:25:26 FIRE RESCUE, WHERE I'VE BEEN TRULY BLESSED TO LIVE, WORK,
09:25:29 AND PLAY IN THIS GREAT CITY.
09:25:31 I HUMBLY ACCEPT THIS AWARD, AND THANK YOU.
09:25:35 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:25:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS
09:25:47 OR WISH TO MAKE ANY REMARKS?
09:25:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:25:51 IT TAKES A LOT TO DO WHAT YOU DO.
09:25:54 I THINK MYSELF AND COUNCIL CITRO EXPERIENCED THAT FIRSTHAND.
09:25:57 BEEN ON THE JOB 26 YEARS.
09:25:59 I KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS GO THROUGH AND THE WORLD IS VERY
09:26:02 DESERVING.
09:26:08 >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS AGAIN TO YOU AND ALL YOUR COLLEAGUES.
09:26:11 THE FIRST STORY YOU MENTIONED SOUNDS LIKE A MOVIE SCRIPT.
09:26:14 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE REST OF IT AT SOME POINT.
09:26:17 IT SOUNDS INTERESTING.
09:26:18 I'M SURE IT WAS HARROWING AND STRESSFUL.
09:26:21 THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO PUTTING YOUR LIVES ON THE LINE TO HELP
09:26:25 TAMPA CITIZENS.
09:26:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT, IF YOU GO TO WORK
09:26:29 AND YOU CONSIDER IT WORK AND DOING YOUR JOB, YOU'RE ONE
09:26:33 FANTASTIC EMPLOYEE.
09:26:34 IF SOMEONE HAS TO GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AND THINK THAT THEY
09:26:37 DON'T WANT TO GO TO WORK, THEY SHOULDN'T GO TO WORK.
09:26:40 THEY SHOULD DO SOMETHING ELSE.
09:26:41 BUT IN YOUR CASE, I UNDERSTAND IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
09:26:45 YOU'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT FEW OF US
09:26:48 HAVE TO GO WORK, AND YOU CONSIDER IT NOT WORKING.
09:26:50 YOU CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE.
09:26:53 AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
09:26:56 APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
09:26:57 >> THANK YOU.
09:26:58 >> CAPTAIN, I'M SURE I CAN SAY THIS FOR ALL OF CITY COUNCIL,
09:27:01 PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE.
09:27:04 THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
09:27:06 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:29:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:29:11 PUBLIC COMMENT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
09:29:13 IF YOU'LL APPROACH THE LECTERN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND
09:29:16 ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
09:29:17 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
09:29:20 IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO INTRODUCE
09:29:24 YOU TO THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE STAFF OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
09:29:28 OFFICE.
09:29:28 SOME OF YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW HER.
09:29:30 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
09:29:33 SUSAN IS A LOCAL LAND USE LAWYER THAT'S BEEN PRACTICING IN
09:29:39 FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER BOARDS FOR DECADES.
09:29:42 WE FINALLY WERE ABLE TO TWIST HER ARM HARD ENOUGH TO GET HER
09:29:45 TO JOIN OUR STAFF.
09:29:46 BUT SOME OF YOU -- WHAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT SUSAN IS SHE
09:29:50 HAS QUITE A DEGREE OF EXPERIENCE.
09:29:55 BEFORE JOINING OUR OFFICE, SHE HAD HER OWN LAW PRACTICE FOR
09:29:59 20-PLUS YEARS.
09:30:00 BEFORE THAT, SHE WAS A PARTNER IN THE LAW FIRM OF FOWLER
09:30:03 WHITE.
09:30:04 AND BEFORE THAT, SHE WAS AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.
09:30:07 AND MORE RECENTLY, SUSAN ALSO SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE
09:30:11 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT
09:30:15 OF THE GEORGE EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION.
09:30:18 AND EVEN AS RECENTLY, I THINK, AS A MONTH AGO, SHE WAS THE
09:30:22 CHAIRMAN OF THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
09:30:27 SHE HAS QUITE A RESUMÉ AND A LOT OF REAL DEEP EXPERIENCE,
09:30:31 AND I WANTED TO INTRODUCE YOU TO HER RIGHT NOW THIS MORNING,
09:30:35 BECAUSE TONIGHT, SHE WILL ACTUALLY BE REPRESENTING YOU ON
09:30:37 THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE APPLICATION PETITIONS.
09:30:40 SHE WILL ALSO BE APPEARING IN FRONT OF YOU WITH RESPECT TO
09:30:45 LAND USE AND ZONING APPEALS COMING FROM THE STAFF TO CITY
09:30:49 COUNCIL WHENEVER ANYONE APPEALS THOSE.
09:30:51 I PRESENT TO YOU SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
09:31:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME.
09:31:03 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:31:03 SO I THINK ALL WE NEED ARE TRUETT GARDNER, JOHN GRANDOFF,
09:31:07 AND DAVE MECHANIK.
09:31:09 ALL THE ATTORNEYS THAT COME BEFORE US HAVE JOINED US BECAUSE
09:31:10 WE'RE SUCH A GREAT PLACE TO WORK.
09:31:12 I DON'T BLAME YOU.
09:31:13 >>GINA GRIMES: REALLY, WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE.
09:31:15 WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BRING THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE HAVE ON
09:31:19 BOARD, INCLUDING PEOPLE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, ANDREA ZELMAN,
09:31:24 CATE WELLS, PRIVATE SECTOR LAWYERS, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
09:31:27 BRING THEM ON BOARD IF THERE WASN'T THIS ATMOSPHERE RIGHT
09:31:32 NOW WITH ALL OF THE INNOVATION AND CHANGE THAT THE MAYOR IS
09:31:35 ADVANCING AND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN SUPPORTING.
09:31:38 PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE LEAVING SUCCESSFUL PRIVATE SECTOR CAREERS
09:31:43 IF WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THIS WAS AN ORGANIZATION WE'RE
09:31:47 EXCITED TO JOIN.
09:31:48 WITH THAT, I FEEL THE SAME WAY.
09:31:51 WITH THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
09:31:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME, AND THANK YOU.
09:31:56 WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU
09:31:58 HAVE SERVED IN A VARIETY OF ROLES.
09:32:00 I'VE KNOWN YOU SINCE I STARTED BACK IN 2015, AND YOU'RE
09:32:03 JOINING A GREAT TEAM.
09:32:05 YOU'RE WORKING WITH MS. GRIMES, WHO IS WONDERFUL, WHO HAS
09:32:08 PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE HERE.
09:32:10 AND I THINK WORKING AT THE GREATEST CITY IN AMERICA.
09:32:15 IT HAS ITS PERKS.
09:32:17 WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU.
09:32:18 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
09:32:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I WERE TO TELL HER I KNEW HER WHEN I
09:32:25 FIRST STARTED, SHE WOULD BE 105 YEARS.
09:32:27 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:32:28 THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK WITH THE CROWD WE HAVE HERE NOW.
09:32:31 WE HAVE A TEAM OF LAWYERS THAT I THINK CAN HANDLE ANY KIND
09:32:34 OF CASELOAD.
09:32:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING THE TEAM.
09:32:37 >>BILL CARLSON: MS. GRIMES, THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR FOR
09:32:41 SETTING THE TONE AND VISION AND EVERYTHING.
09:32:43 BUT THANK YOU FOR THE COOL FACT THAT YOU'RE ATTRACTING ALL
09:32:48 THESE GREAT PEOPLE BACK.
09:32:49 >>GINA GRIMES: THANK YOU.
09:32:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:32:51 YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME, EVEN BEFORE I
09:32:54 WAS ELECTED.
09:32:55 I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.
09:32:57 THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
09:32:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, MS. GRIMES, YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN.
09:33:02 YOU'RE BUILDING THAT BENCH.
09:33:03 THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
09:33:05 BUILDING THE BENCH OF THE BEST PEOPLE AND MOVING THINGS
09:33:08 ALONG.
09:33:08 WELCOME ABOARD.
09:33:09 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:33:10 I WILL SEE YOU ALL THIS EVENING.
09:33:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.
09:33:14 THANKS.
09:33:14 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:33:15 ALL RIGHT.
09:33:15 WE WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
09:33:19 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
09:33:22 >> MY NAME IS CHRIS REVELLE.
09:33:25 I LIVE AT 924 1/2 EAST 11th AVENUE, YBOR CITY, 33605.
09:33:29 SO COMING UP IN YOUR AGENDA WILL BE A PRESENTATION ON A
09:33:31 WONDERFUL TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WOULD OFFER RESTORATION
09:33:34 IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:33:36 CURRENTLY, THE INTERSTATE DIVIDES 40 NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS
09:33:39 THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:33:41 THE INTERSTATE GOES THROUGH EVERY SINGLE CRA WE HAVE WITH
09:33:45 THE EXCEPTION OF THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT.
09:33:48 SO WITH THE BOULEVARD ITSELF, IT IS ABOUT RECONNECTING THE
09:33:52 NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:33:53 CURRENTLY, WE ONLY HAVE 21 POINTS WHERE WE CAN CONNECT OUR
09:33:56 EAST AND WEST NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:33:57 WITH THE BOULEVARD, WE CAN DOUBLE THAT TO 42 POINTS.
09:34:01 WHAT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, IT TRIMS THE
09:34:04 FAT OF THE I-275 FOOTPRINT.
09:34:07 SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO SEE UP TO 35 ACRES OF LAND
09:34:11 SPACE.
09:34:12 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PARKS, NEW DEVELOPMENT, LIBRARIES,
09:34:15 SCHOOLS, CIVIC CENTERS.
09:34:17 NOTHING THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT BY F.D.O.T. OR, YOU KNOW, BY
09:34:21 OUR D.O.T. HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE RESTORATIVE TO OUR
09:34:26 NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:34:26 THIS IS ALSO GOING TO REDUCE CLIMATE FOOTPRINT.
09:34:30 WE DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN RIGHT NOW ON THE TABLE
09:34:31 THAT REDUCES SINGLE-OCCUPANCY VEHICLES.
09:34:35 WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN ON THE TABLE THAT REDUCES OUR CARBON
09:34:38 FOOTPRINTS.
09:34:38 WE KNOW THAT AIR PARTICULATES, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE VEHICLE
09:34:42 EMISSIONS, BRAKE DUST, RUBBER TIRES THAT ARE -- THE DEBRIS
09:34:47 COMING OFF THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM, THAT IS ALL VERY BAD, AND IT
09:34:50 DOES HURT OUR HEALTH.
09:34:52 THAT IS PARTICULARLY REALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR CRA AREAS WHERE
09:34:55 WE DO HAVE A HEALTH CRISIS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT,
09:34:59 ESPECIALLY AROUND THE UNIVERSITY AREA AS WELL.
09:35:01 SO THIS WOULD HELP WITH OUR GOALS FOR OUR HEALTH AND OUR
09:35:04 TRANSIT STUDIES.
09:35:06 WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE RESTORATION THING, I WANT TO TALK
09:35:10 ABOUT YBOR.
09:35:12 WE ARE A SURVIVOR OF RED-LINING, URBAN RENEWAL, INTERSTATE
09:35:16 CONSTRUCTION, AND OPERATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE REMOVED
09:35:18 THOUSANDS OF HOMES.
09:35:19 IN THE 1960s, WHEN I-4 WAS PUT IN PLACE, WE LOST 600 HOMES
09:35:25 IN YBOR, AND THEN IN THE EARLY 2000s, WE LOST OVER 300
09:35:29 MORE.
09:35:30 RIGHT NOW, THE HISTORIC RESOURCES IN OUR CITY, ALONG WITH
09:35:33 THE STATE HAVE IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 955 HISTORIC
09:35:38 PROPERTIES, AND WE DO HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
09:35:43 CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
09:35:44 NOW, IN THE MIDST OF ALL THAT, WE ONLY HAD 64 PROPERTIES
09:35:48 THAT WERE RELOCATED.
09:35:50 NONE OF THE STUDIES INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD
09:35:53 CONDITIONS OR HISTORIC STREET GRID.
09:35:55 AND SO ORIGINALLY, F.D.O.T. WANTED TO REMOVE 1,000
09:35:59 PROPERTIES.
09:35:59 NOW, THE BOULEVARD PROJECT WILL NOT DO THAT.
09:36:02 IT WOULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT
09:36:04 AND RECONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:36:06 AND WITH THAT SAID, WHEN WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS, WE
09:36:09 NEED TO AFFORD A LOT MORE TIME THAN 10 MINUTES.
09:36:12 AND ALSO, I WANT YOU ALL TO REMOVE THE 14th AND 15th
09:36:15 STREET EXIT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY TAMPA BAY NEXT PROJECT
09:36:18 AND SAY NO TO PLASTIC BAGS.
09:36:20 THANKS.
09:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:36:22 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:36:26 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:36:27 JOHNNY JOHNSON.
09:36:29 FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCILORS
09:36:33 THAT CAME OUT TO FAIR OAKS AND TOOK TIME OUT TO SEE WHAT THE
09:36:36 CONSTITUENTS AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANT FOR THEMSELVES AND
09:36:38 NOT WHAT SOMEONE SITTING BEHIND A DAIS OR DESK DEMANDING
09:36:43 THAT THEY HAVE.
09:36:44 THANK YOU, FIRST AND FOREMOST, FOR THAT.
09:36:46 YOU GUYS THAT CAME OUT, YOU'VE SEEN THE COMMUNITY SPEAK
09:36:51 LOUD.
09:36:53 MAKE A TIME AND A DATE FOR THE COMMUNITY, THEY WILL SHOW UP
09:36:58 AND VOICE THEIR OPINION.
09:36:59 SO, AGAIN, FOR THE FUTURE, YOU HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING.
09:37:04 PEOPLE WORK IN THE MORNING TIMES, LONG ENOUGH PERIOD OF
09:37:07 TIME, PREPARATION IS EVERYTHING, AND PEOPLE WILL COME AND
09:37:11 VOICE THEIR OPINION, UNLESS YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING
09:37:14 BEHIND THEIR BOOK.
09:37:15 WE LEARNED SOME OF THAT LAST THURSDAY IS THAT THE COMMUNITY
09:37:17 WANT A NEW BUILDING, A HIGH-TECH FACILITY SO THE KIDS AND
09:37:21 THE SENIORS CAN HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS TO MOVE FORWARD ALONG
09:37:25 WITH THE REST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND BE PRODUCTIVE
09:37:27 CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AS WELL AS BIKE TO CRA.
09:37:34 YOU HAVE FROM EAST 56th ALL THE WAY TO WEST, I'M TALKING
09:37:38 HILLSBOROUGH DOWN PAST 22nd, DOWN 15th, HILLSBOROUGH
09:37:42 ROAD IS HORRIBLE.
09:37:43 THE POTHOLES IN THE STREET, I JUST GOT A FLAT.
09:37:48 HAD SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TIRE PROBLEMS AND STUFF.
09:37:52 GET FROM I-4, 75, COMING SOUTH INTO DOWNTOWN, THE INTERSTATE
09:37:57 IS GETTING REDONE.
09:37:58 WE PASSED A ONE-CENT TAX.
09:38:02 HILLSBOROUGH AND OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE
09:38:06 FIRST PROJECTS WITH THE LIGHTS AND THE KIDS CROSSING THE
09:38:11 STREET AND SO FORTH.
09:38:13 I WOULD APPRECIATE IF SOMEONE COULD GO OUT THERE, LOOK AT
09:38:15 HILLSBOROUGH UP IN THE 22nd AREA, DOWN 56th, FROM THE
09:38:20 CASINO, UP TO THE CASINO AND BACK WEST IS HORRIBLE.
09:38:22 ONCE YOU GET UP BY THE CASINO AND I-4 AREA, YOU HAVE A
09:38:26 SMOOTH RIDE NO POTHOLES, NOTHING.
09:38:28 SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT ALL OF
09:38:30 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NEED AGAIN TO LOOK APPROPRIATELY IN THE
09:38:33 SAME BECAUSE WE ALL UP UNDER ONE UMBRELLA.
09:38:36 AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TO FAIR OAKS.
09:38:39 WE WANT A NEW BUILDING.
09:38:42 NO FIRE SPRINKLERS.
09:38:45 A SAFETY HAZARD, AND NONE OF YOU WILL WANT YOUR KIDS IN THAT
09:38:50 PREDICAMENT.
09:38:51 PLEASE DON'T ALLOW OUR KIDS TO BE IN IT.
09:38:53 THANK YOU.
09:38:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:38:55 NEXT PERSON.
09:39:01 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:39:02 MY NAME IS RICK FERNANDEZ.
09:39:04 2906 NORTH ELMORE, TAMPA, 33602.
09:39:08 TAMPA HEIGHTS.
09:39:09 BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, I'M CURRENTLY THE TRANSPORTATION
09:39:13 CHAIR FOR THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND FORMER
09:39:17 PRESIDENT OF THAT ASSOCIATION.
09:39:19 I SIT ON THE MPO CAC AS THE VICE-CHAIR AND SERVE AS
09:39:25 REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS BODY ON THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION
09:39:28 INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, HAVING BEEN APPOINTED BY
09:39:31 THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL.
09:39:33 SOME OF YOU WERE ON THAT APPOINTING COMMITTEE AT THE TIME.
09:39:37 I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE BOULEVARD PROJECT.
09:39:40 JOSH FRANK WILL BE MAKING A PRESENTATION TO YOU IN JUST A
09:39:43 FEW MINUTES.
09:39:44 I UNDERSTAND HE HAS A TEN-MINUTE SLOT ON THE AGENDA.
09:39:47 I'VE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER OVER THE
09:39:51 COURSE OF THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, AND I DON'T KNOW
09:39:53 THAT THE PRESENTATION HAS EVER TAKEN LESS THAN AN HOUR TO
09:39:57 PRESENT AND EVEN THEN, THERE'S A LOT OF CRUMBS LEFT ON THE
09:40:00 TABLE FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT IN TOTAL.
09:40:03 SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR IS NOTHING
09:40:07 MORE THAN A PRELIM OF THE WHOLE PROJECT, AND FOR THOSE OF
09:40:10 YOU WHO MAYBE ARE SEEING IT AS A MATTER OF FIRST IMPRESSION,
09:40:19 YOU'RE ONLY GETTING A VERY SMALL TASTE.
09:40:21 I WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IN
09:40:24 THE FIRST INSTANCE THAT THE BOULEVARD PROJECT IS SOMETHING
09:40:27 THAT PERCOLATED OUT OF THE CHARRETTE PROCESS THAT WAS
09:40:30 ORIGINALLY CONSTITUTED AROUND THE TAMPA BAY EXPRESS PROJECT
09:40:34 THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:40:37 TRANSPORTATION BACK IN 2015.
09:40:40 THEY HELD A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETINGS,
09:40:44 CHARRETTES, AS THEY PHRASE THEM, AND THE BOULEVARD IDEA
09:40:48 PERCOLATED FROM THAT.
09:40:50 JOSH TOOK IT AND RAN WITH IT ACADEMICALLY AND PRESENTED A
09:40:56 FULL-BLOWN VISION WHICH IS PART OF WHAT HE'LL SHOW TODAY.
09:41:00 WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT WAS SEEDED IN
09:41:02 THE COMMUNITY.
09:41:03 TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, YBOR CITY, WEST TAMPA.
09:41:05 ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN FROM
09:41:10 INCEPTION SUPPORTED BY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
09:41:14 THE MPO-CAC LAST YEAR RECOMMENDED TO THE MPO BOARD A STUDY
09:41:19 OF THIS PROJECT.
09:41:21 THAT WAS NEAR UNANIMOUS OUT OF THE CAC.
09:41:24 AND THE MPO BOARD APPROVED THAT RECOMMENDATION, ALSO BY
09:41:29 UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND THAT STUDY IS NOW PENDING.
09:41:32 WHAT I'M ASKING HERE OF YOU TODAY IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
09:41:37 USE ITS BULLY PULPIT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
09:41:41 IT IS A LONG-TERM VISION.
09:41:42 I MAY NOT LIVE TO SEE IT TO FRUITION, BUT IT IS SOMETHING
09:41:46 THAT IS VISION WORTHY, AND IT IS A LEADERSHIP VOID THAT
09:41:50 WE'RE LOOKING TO FILL NOW THAT I THINK YOU ARE UNIQUELY
09:41:54 POSITIONED TO HELP FILL.
09:41:55 SO I HOPE YOU WILL LISTEN INTENTLY.
09:41:59 YOU WILL CARRY FORWARD WITH MORE STUDY, AND THAT YOU WILL
09:42:02 RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THIS PLAN.
09:42:03 THANK YOU.
09:42:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:42:05 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:42:08 >> HOW'S IT GOING?
09:42:09 MY NAME IS ANTHONY KROL.
09:42:14 I'M A WEIRDO ARTIST.
09:42:16 YOU HAVE SEEN SOME OF MY WORK WITH MY WIFE OUT IN WEST
09:42:19 TAMPA.
09:42:20 GUIDO WAS THERE; CITRO WAS THERE.
09:42:23 WE PAINTED THE FACES OF WEST TAMPA MURAL WITH EJ SALCINES
09:42:27 AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:42:29 ALL RIGHT.
09:42:30 I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE BOULEVARD PROJECTS AS WELL.
09:42:32 WE NEED TO GIVE THIS PROJECT MORE TIME.
09:42:35 AND I'LL GO INTO WHY THIS IS GOING TO GET KIND OF OUT THERE.
09:42:38 IF YOU GUYS WOULD BEAR WITH ME.
09:42:40 I'LL LET THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERTS AT URBAN DESIGN
09:42:47 WHO WILL SPEAK ON BLOGS FROM PEOPLE LIKE JEFF SPECK, BRENT
09:42:53 TODERIAN AND THOSE OTHER PEOPLE WHO GUIDED JOSH FRANK, RICK
09:42:58 FERNANDEZ AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO
09:43:00 HAVE DONE THIS RESEARCH.
09:43:01 I'LL LET THEM SPEAK ON URBAN DESIGN SPECIFICALLY.
09:43:04 LET ME GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION TO IT SO YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
09:43:07 EVERYTHING IS DESIGN.
09:43:09 OBVIOUSLY, COMMUNITIES ARE DESIGNED.
09:43:11 THE WAY CITY COUNCIL IS ORGANIZED IS DESIGN.
09:43:14 FROM AN ARTIST'S PERSPECTIVE, DESIGN IS KIND OF DIVINE.
09:43:17 IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT, RIGHT, THE WAY YOUR DESK IS DESIGNED,
09:43:21 THE WAY THE PROJECTOR IS DESIGNED, THE WAY THIS SCREEN IS
09:43:24 DESIGNED.
09:43:24 THAT'S ALL DESIGNED.
09:43:25 ON A BIG LEVEL, DESIGN IS IMPORTANT.
09:43:27 THAT'S MY POINT.
09:43:28 SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET KIND OF WEIRD.
09:43:31 SO DESIGN ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING, SO LET'S TAKE A TRIP TO
09:43:35 THE '60s.
09:43:36 I WASN'T ALIVE THEN, BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THIS
09:43:39 IS GOING.
09:43:40 THINK OF WHY GOD DESIGNED OUR PLANET TO HAVE A MOON TO
09:43:44 REGULATE THE TIDES AND SLOW THE EARTH'S ORBIT.
09:43:47 YOU KNOW, THE MOON EXISTS BECAUSE IT MAKES THE EARTH
09:43:50 INHABITABLE.
09:43:52 THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF GOOD DESIGN.
09:43:54 THANKS, GOD.
09:43:55 WHATEVER, FOR THE PUBLIC.
09:43:57 WITHIN THE UNIVERSE, THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF GOOD DESIGN AND
09:44:00 BAD DESIGN.
09:44:01 RIGHT?
09:44:02 NATURE PROVIDES GOOD DESIGN, PROVEN BY SCIENCE.
09:44:06 PEOPLE, WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE GREATER GOOD OF OTHER
09:44:10 PEOPLE, CREATE GOOD DESIGN.
09:44:13 SIMPLE, RIGHT?
09:44:14 PEOPLE, WHEN CREATING DESIGN THAT IS FOCUSED ON SOMETHING
09:44:21 OTHER THAN PEOPLE, CREATE BAD DESIGN.
09:44:24 IF PEOPLE DESIGN THINGS NOT THINKING ABOUT THE GREATER GOOD
09:44:29 OF OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S BAD DESIGN.
09:44:31 MAYBE I MADE MY POINT.
09:44:36 I DON'T KNOW.
09:44:37 COMMUNITIES ARE DESIGNED -- THIS ISN'T A MONASTERY.
09:44:43 IT IS DESIGNED BY A COMMUNITY.
09:44:44 F.D.O.T. ISN'T A MONASTERY.
09:44:46 THEIR IDEAS AREN'T JUST, OH, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
09:44:49 IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT PEOPLE SUGGEST HOW THEY DESIGN
09:44:52 THINGS, RIGHT?
09:44:54 F.D.O.T.'S FOCUS IS DESIGNING FOR CARS.
09:44:58 THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
09:44:59 YOUR FOCUS AS A CITY COUNCIL IS DESIGNING FOR PEOPLE.
09:45:02 THAT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT?
09:45:04 SO THESE AGENCIES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE DON'T REALLY WORK FOR
09:45:10 CARS.
09:45:11 THEY WORK FOR PEOPLE.
09:45:12 I'M OUT OF TIME.
09:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:45:16 >> BUT IF I COULD JUST KIND OF REAL QUICK KEEP GOING.
09:45:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GIVE HIM 30 MORE SECONDS?
09:45:23 >> NO, NO.
09:45:23 THAT'S GOOD.
09:45:24 BACK TO THE '60s.
09:45:25 I TOOK YOU GUYS ON A TRIP, HEY, GOD, HELLO.
09:45:28 WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE '60s.
09:45:30 ROBERT MOSES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE COUNTRY, CIVIL
09:45:35 ENGINEERING AND CIVIL RIGHTS KIND OF MERGED TOGETHER DURING
09:45:38 THAT TIME, RIGHT?
09:45:39 WE'RE GOING BACK MLK.
09:45:41 WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE '60s.
09:45:42 WHAT I MEAN BY CIVIL ENGINEERING IS THE AMERICAN HIGHWAY
09:45:45 SYSTEM.
09:45:45 THAT WENT OVER A LOT OF BLACK COMMUNITIES.
09:45:48 YOU CAN RESEARCH THIS, ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.
09:45:51 IT WAS BAD DESIGN.
09:45:52 THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM WAS BAD DESIGN.
09:45:54 NO MATTER HOW YOU SPIN IT TODAY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING BACK
09:45:57 AND WE'RE SAYING, THIS NEEDS MORE ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS
09:46:00 BOULEVARD PROJECT REVERSES THAT BAD DESIGN.
09:46:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:46:05 >> THAT'S IT.
09:46:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:46:07 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:46:12 >> MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS.
09:46:14 LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
09:46:19 I THINK THAT YOUNG MAN, BEAUTIFUL COMMENTS.
09:46:24 EVERYTHING IS DONE BY DESIGN, AND GOD DESIGNED THE WHOLE
09:46:27 WORLD, AND WE THANK GOD FOR HIS GOODNESS AND HIS BLESSING
09:46:31 AND HIS GRACIOUSNESS.
09:46:32 YOU KNOW, I WANT TO READ SOME SCRIPTURE BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING
09:46:37 IN A TIME NOW WHERE YOU'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT DON'T
09:46:40 BELIEVE IN GOD.
09:46:41 AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM ALL.
09:46:44 THIS IS WHAT JOHN SAY IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS.
09:46:47 I SAW A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH, THE FIRST HEAVEN AND
09:46:52 FIRST EARTH PASSED AWAY AND THERE WAS NO MORE -- AND OUR
09:46:57 JOHN SAW THE HOLY CITY, KNEW JERUSALEM COME DOWN FROM GOD
09:47:02 OUT OF HEAVEN.
09:47:05 PREPARED AS A BRIDE ADORNED FOR HER HUSBAND.
09:47:07 I HEARD A GREAT VOICE OUT OF HEAVEN SAYING BEHOLD THE
09:47:10 TABERNACLE OF GOD IS WITH MAN, AND HE WILL DWELL WITH THEM
09:47:14 AND THEY SHALL BE HIS PEOPLE AND GOD HIMSELF SHALL BE WITH
09:47:19 THEM AND BE THEIR GOD.
09:47:20 AND GOD SHALL WIPE AWAY ALL TEARS FROM THEIR EYES, AND THERE
09:47:25 SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH, NEITHER SORROW NOR CRIME NOR NEITHER
09:47:30 WOULD THERE BE ANY MORE PAIN.
09:47:32 FOR THE FORMER THINGS PASSED AWAY.
09:47:35 HE SAT UPON THE THRONE, SAY BEHOLD, I MAKE ALL THINGS NEW,
09:47:41 AND HE SAID, RIGHT, BUT THESE WORDS ARE TRUE AND FAITHFUL.
09:47:46 YOU KNOW, WE MUST TELL GOT NOT EVERY DAY, BUT EVERY MOMENT
09:47:51 OF OUR LIFE, GOD THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU
09:47:55 HAVE BESTOWED UPON ME, MY FAMILY AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
09:47:58 AND BE GRACIOUS TO GOD, BECAUSE GOD IS GRACIOUS TO US.
09:48:03 A LOT OF US MIGHT NOT MAKE IT IN, BUT I'M HERE TO TRY TO
09:48:06 TELL YOU, BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AND ACCEPT THE MESSAGE,
09:48:10 LORD AND SAVIOR, AND I GUARANTEE YOU, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE
09:48:13 GO THROUGH ON THIS EARTH, IT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT
09:48:15 BETTER IN HEAVEN.
09:48:16 YOU KNOW WHAT?
09:48:17 I TELL YOU ALL THIS NOT BECAUSE I HATE -- I TELL YOU THIS
09:48:21 BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
09:48:22 I WANT YOU TO BE SAFE.
09:48:23 I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE SAFE AND ACCEPT GOD, ACCEPT JESUS
09:48:28 CHRIST AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR.
09:48:30 I'VE BEEN PREACHING NOW FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS.
09:48:33 I THANK GOD THAT HE ANOINT ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF JESUS
09:48:37 CHRIST.
09:48:37 I'M NOT HERE FOR NO POPULARITY SHOW, NOTHING.
09:48:41 I'M HERE TO TRY TO DO THE WILL OF GOD.
09:48:45 YOU KNOW WHY?
09:48:46 GOD BEEN SO GOOD TO ALL OF US.
09:48:49 GOD BEEN SO GOOD TO ME, BUT, NO, HE'S BEEN GOOD TO
09:48:52 EVERYBODY.
09:48:52 WE MUST TELL HIM THANK YOU.
09:48:53 DON'T GO AROUND WITH FROWNS ON YOUR FACE.
09:48:55 KEEP A SMILE ON YOUR FACE, LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU ARE A
09:48:58 BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST AND YOU LOVE EVERYBODY.
09:49:01 I DON'T HATE NOBODY, REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY TREAT ME, I HATE
09:49:04 NOBODY.
09:49:04 I LOVE EVERYBODY.
09:49:05 BUT I KNOW PEOPLE HATE ME, BUT THAT'S THEIR PART.
09:49:08 THAT'S ON THEM.
09:49:09 THAT'S NOT ON ME.
09:49:10 AND I JUST LOVE TO PRAISE AND GLORIFY MY HEAVENLY FATHER.
09:49:14 THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING ME.
09:49:15 GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.
09:49:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR BEAUTIFUL WORDS.
09:49:19 AMEN.
09:49:19 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:49:21 >> THANK YOU.
09:49:21 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:49:22 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:49:23 I'M BY SHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
09:49:28 I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK THE COUNCILMEN THAT CAME OUT LAST
09:49:32 THURSDAY.
09:49:33 COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO GUDES AND
09:49:37 COUNCILMAN BILL CARSON.
09:49:39 WE WANT TO THANK JANELLE McGREGORY, WHO IS THE LIAISON FOR
09:49:42 THE MAYOR.
09:49:43 TWO THINGS CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING, YOU ALL HAD BEEN TOLD
09:49:47 THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T CARE, THE COMMUNITY DON'T COME
09:49:51 OUT.
09:49:51 THIS IS WHAT THE CRA HAD BEEN SAYING, BUT YOU SEE WITH THE
09:49:55 PROPER NOTICE, PROPER TIME, THE PEOPLE CAME OUT, OVER 150
09:50:01 PEOPLE WAS AT THAT CENTER.
09:50:03 THEY SPOKE LOUDLY AND BOLDLY THAT THEY WANT THE CENTER TORN
09:50:08 DOWN, AND FROM WHAT I'M BEING TOLD, MANY OF YOU THAT WERE
09:50:12 THERE AND MANY OF YOU THAT HEARD, YOU KNOW THE CENTER NEED
09:50:14 TO BE TORN DOWN AND REBUILT.
09:50:16 ALSO, WE KNOW THAT THE SUPER BOWL, I THINK THE LAST TIME THE
09:50:20 SUPER BOWL WAS HERE, THEY LEFT MONIES AT THE YET CENTER TO
09:50:23 IMPROVE THE YET CENTER.
09:50:25 WE HAVE A SUPER BOWL COMING NEXT YEAR.
09:50:27 SO THESE ARE SOME PLACES YOU CAN FIND MONEY.
09:50:30 WE HAVE THE CRA.
09:50:32 WE ALSO HAVE THE DAVID STRAZ WHO'S WANTING TO MAKE GOOD ON
09:50:39 HIS PROMISES, AND YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW OTHER PARTNERS THAT
09:50:41 YOU ALL CAN PARTNER UP WITH TO GET THIS DONE.
09:50:44 WE'RE SAYING THAT IT -- IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
09:50:49 THE BUILDING, YOU'VE SEEN FOR YOURSELF IS NOT FIT FOR PEOPLE
09:50:52 TO EVEN BE THERE.
09:50:53 SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS IS EXPEDITIOUSLY DONE RIGHT AWAY.
09:50:59 LET'S GET MOVING.
09:51:00 THE TRAIN NEED TO GET ROLLING DOWN THE TRACK ON FAIR OAKS.
09:51:05 SO ONCE AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO ECHO TO THIS COUNCIL THAT
09:51:10 WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU ALL HEAR US.
09:51:12 THE MAYOR, WE THANK HER FOR SENDING HER CREW, BUT THEY CAME
09:51:18 WITH THE WRONG MESSAGE.
09:51:19 WE DON'T WANT SIMPLE PAINTING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
09:51:22 SO YOU ALL HEARD US.
09:51:25 AND I'M GLAD YOU HEARD US.
09:51:26 WE DON'T WANT TO BE BOGGED DOWN WITH MEETINGS AFTER MEETINGS
09:51:31 AFTER MEETINGS.
09:51:31 THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY SPOKEN.
09:51:34 NOW IT'S TIME TO MOVE INTO ACTION.
09:51:36 SO THE NEXT MEETING WE WANT TO HEAR IS ABOUT DESIGNS.
09:51:39 YOU HAVE ARCHITECTS THAT WORK FOR THE CITY, SO WE DON'T HAVE
09:51:42 TO GO ANYWHERE.
09:51:43 YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT DOES EVERYTHING.
09:51:46 YOU HAVE ENGINEERS.
09:51:47 SO THIS SHOULD NOT BE SOME PROJECT THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO
09:51:50 FIND ALL THIS MONEY WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT YOU PAY DAILY
09:51:54 TO DO THIS WORK.
09:51:55 SO LET'S PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND TAKE CARE OF FAIR OAKS.
09:52:00 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:52:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:02 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:52:08 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:52:11 ONE OF THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO IS DISSOLVE THIS CITY
09:52:14 COUNCIL.
09:52:15 THEY REALLY DO.
09:52:15 NO REPRESENTATION WHATSOEVER, AND WEEK AFTER WEEK, YEAR
09:52:22 AFTER YEAR, IT'S THE SAME THING.
09:52:25 AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME YOU'VE GOT A
09:52:31 MAYOR WHO WRESTLED THE POWER FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND HAVE
09:52:37 GIVEN THAT POWER TO DEVELOPERS.
09:52:41 AND SO WHAT YOU SEE AS A RESULT OF THAT IS YOU SEE CITY
09:52:45 MONEY, URBAN MONEY, HUD MONEY, ALL TYPE OF FEDERAL GRANTS
09:52:51 GOING TO BUILDING GARAGES, PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS ON
09:52:55 INTERSTATES AND JUST DIFFERENT THINGS WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY
09:52:59 INPUT, AND YOU SEE A MAYOR THAT NEVER COMES TO THIS CITY
09:53:03 COUNCIL, NOT ON ONE OCCASION, UNLESS IT'S TIME TO GET A
09:53:08 BUDGET THROUGH, A BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET THROUGH, AND THAT'S
09:53:11 WHEN YOU SEE THEM, OR WHEN THEY ARE STANDING HERE SIDE BY
09:53:14 SIDE WITH THEIR DEVELOPER'S BUDDIES TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
09:53:19 THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT.
09:53:21 ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT.
09:53:24 THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG ON THE SURFACE OF IT.
09:53:26 IT'S SOMETHING WRONG WHEN SEVEN MEN SITTING THERE AND LIKE A
09:53:30 WOMAN BRINGING THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THOSE CUPS.
09:53:34 THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT.
09:53:36 IF YOU WATCH TENNIS, THEY SAY SHE'S NOT A SLAVE.
09:53:42 SHE'S NOT A SLAVE.
09:53:44 THAT'S IN 2020 THAT'S BEING SAID.
09:53:47 AND YOU MEN SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
09:53:52 THERE ARE OTHER REASONS WHY THIS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE
09:53:55 DISSOLVED, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REPRESENTATION OUT THERE TO
09:54:02 WHEN THE CITIZENS COMPLAIN TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE THINGS THEY
09:54:05 ARE EXPERIENCING, IF IT'S FROM BICYCLE STOPS, POLICE ABUSE,
09:54:08 POLICE MURDERS, CRIME INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY, CONFISCATING,
09:54:16 YOU KNOW, OUR PROPERTY UNDER THE AUSPICES OF "I SMELL DRUGS,
09:54:20 I SMELL MARIJUANA."
09:54:21 HIGH INCARCERATION RATE.
09:54:25 YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A CROOKED CHIEF OF POLICE OVER THERE.
09:54:29 A CROOKED STATE ATTORNEY OVER THERE, ANDREW WARREN.
09:54:32 YOU GOT A CROOKED COURT SYSTEM GOING OVER THERE, OPERATED
09:54:36 UNDER PAT FRANK AND JUDGE FICARROTTA.
09:54:42 AND THESE PEOPLE COME RIGHT HERE AND SIT RIGHT HERE IN THESE
09:54:45 CHAIRS, AND ACT LIKE THEY ARE NORMAL.
09:54:48 THERE'S NOTHING NORMAL ABOUT THEM.
09:54:49 ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING NORMAL ABOUT THEM.
09:54:52 THEY SENT PEOPLE OVER TO TALK ABOUT FAIR OAKS PARKS AND THEY
09:54:59 SENT THREE WHITE PEOPLE.
09:55:00 SOMETHING DISCRIMINATORY ABOUT THAT IN ITSELF AND ALL THOSE
09:55:07 THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE.
09:55:09 PEOPLE HAVE TO INTROSPECTIVELY, YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT
09:55:11 YOURSELF AND SAY, HEY, WHERE DO THESE CHANGES NEED TO TAKE
09:55:15 PLACE?
09:55:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:55:16 ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:55:18 NO.
09:55:20 ALL RIGHT.
09:55:21 WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMMITTEE REPORTS CONSENT AGENDA.
09:55:23 WE HAVE FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FOR ITEM
09:55:26 NUMBER 3.
09:55:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:55:28 I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
09:55:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND WE
09:55:34 HAVE A SECOND.
09:55:35 ANY DISCUSSION?
09:55:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:55:37 ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:55:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE THE RESOLUTION, FILE
09:55:41 NUMBER 2020-2.
09:55:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:55:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
09:55:47 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:55:48 ANY DISCUSSION?
09:55:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:55:49 ALL RIGHT.
09:55:51 THEY BOTH PASS UNANIMOUSLY.
09:55:52 THANK YOU.
09:55:52 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:55:58 >>BILL CARLSON: CONGRATULATIONS TO MS. POST.
09:56:02 THANK YOU TO HER FOR BEING WILLING TO COME ON BOARD.
09:56:05 THE MAYOR HAS ASSEMBLED A REALLY TOP-NOTCH WORLD-CLASS
09:56:08 PROFESSIONAL TEAM.
09:56:10 THANK YOU TO HER FOR DOING THAT AND JOHN BENNETT FOR DOING
09:56:13 IT.
09:56:14 I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MS. POST ON ECONOMIC
09:56:17 DEVELOPMENT, AS I'M SURE THE REST OF YOU ALL DO.
09:56:20 THANKS TO USF FOR WORKING THIS DEAL TO LET US HAVE HER FOR A
09:56:23 COUPLE OF YEARS.
09:56:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:56:25 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO USF -- GO BULLS -- WE NOW HAVE FIRST
09:56:30 DIBS.
09:56:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING.
09:56:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:56:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO OFFICIALLY WELCOME
09:56:37 MS. POST ON BOARD.
09:56:39 SHE'S GOT A GREAT RESUMÉ AND WELL RESPECTED IN OUR
09:56:44 COMMUNITY.
09:56:45 WE LOOK ACROSS THE STREET, A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY AT THE
09:56:47 NEW MED CENTER, WHICH I THINK SHE HAD A BIG PART TO BRING
09:56:52 DOWNTOWN AND TO GET IT BUILT.
09:56:54 IF THAT'S ANY INDICATION OF GREAT THINGS TO COME TO OUR
09:56:57 CITY, WE WELCOME YOU ON BOARD.
09:56:59 ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?
09:57:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:57:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELCOME YOU ABOARD.
09:57:06 HEAR GREAT THINGS ABOUT YOU.
09:57:08 MR. CARLSON SPEAKS HIGHLY OF YOU.
09:57:10 SEEN SOME STUFF IN YOUR RESUMÉ.
09:57:13 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A NEW ATMOSPHERE, GOING NORTH A
09:57:16 LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN BRING TO US.
09:57:18 WELCOME ABOARD.
09:57:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
09:57:21 >> THANK YOU.
09:57:21 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
09:57:23 I THINK, AS YOU KNOW, I SPENT THE LAST, I THINK NOW EIGHT
09:57:27 MONTHS, WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND WITH THE SUPPORT
09:57:29 OF COUNCIL AND THE TRANSITION OF THE NEW ADMINISTRATION.
09:57:33 AND I CONSIDER MYSELF HONORED TO NOW BE ABLE TO JOIN IN A
09:57:37 MORE 100% CAPACITY.
09:57:40 WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS, BUT AS I HEAR YOU ALL REFERENCE
09:57:43 FREQUENTLY, THERE IS MUCH WORK TO DO AHEAD OF US.
09:57:46 I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING IN THE VISION FOR
09:57:51 TAMPA AND HELPING TO ADVANCE THE AGENDAS THAT WE HAVE AND TO
09:57:55 SUPPORT YOUR AGENDAS AND VISION THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL.
09:57:59 IT'S BEEN A VERY INFORMATIVE EXPERIENCE THESE LAST FEW
09:58:06 MONTHS, AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO APPLY THAT IN THE PATH
09:58:09 FORWARD.
09:58:09 AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND I AM PROUD
09:58:12 AND HONORED TO BE ABLE TO JOIN THE TEAM.
09:58:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:58:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:58:17 IF I CAN CALL YOU CAROL.
09:58:19 >> CERTAINLY.
09:58:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK ONE OF THE SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE
09:58:25 ALL HAD SO FAR IN THE 8 MONTHS IS COMMUNICATION.
09:58:34 I THINK THAT BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND MR. BENNETT, CHIEF OF
09:58:39 STAFF, AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, I THINK THERE'S REAL
09:58:43 POSITIVE COMMUNICATION WITH US.
09:58:45 AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF EVERYBODY JUST
09:58:50 GETTING ALONG AND BEING ON THE SAME PAGE AND HOPEFULLY
09:58:54 SWIMMING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
09:58:57 AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH YOU SO FAR, I THINK YOU'RE A
09:59:01 GOOD COMMUNICATOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO -- I THINK THAT'S SUCH
09:59:04 AN IMPORTANT THING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT.
09:59:07 >> AGREE.
09:59:08 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY APPEALING TO ME TO
09:59:10 BE ABLE TO JOIN THE ADMINISTRATION WAS THIS CULTURE OF
09:59:13 INCLUSIVENESS AND COLLABORATION, AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND
09:59:18 THAT'S SOME OF THE HISTORY I COME FROM, FROM MY GOVERNMENT
09:59:21 EXPERIENCE, ALL ABOUT THOSE PHILOSOPHIES AND APPROACHES.
09:59:24 SO, AGAIN, REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO JOIN AND HELP MOVE
09:59:28 THE CITY FORWARD.
09:59:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:59:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:32 CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME.
09:59:32 >> THANKS.
09:59:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
09:59:37 START WITH MR. WILFALK, ITEM NUMBER 5, DIRECTOR OF SOLID
09:59:41 WASTE.
09:59:41 A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON HOW WE CAN HAVE CLEAN SWEEPS
09:59:45 COME MORE OFTEN AND HOW WE CAN LESSEN THE PRICE, IF ANY, FOR
09:59:49 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DUMP THEIR STUFF AT MCKAY BAY.
09:59:52 >>MARK WILFALK: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:59:53 MARK WILFALK, DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE AND
09:59:57 ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.
09:59:58 PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL THIS MORNING TO
10:00:00 DISCUSS THE SWEEP PROGRAMS AND THE BENEFITS IT OFFERS TO OUR
10:00:04 COMMUNITY.
10:00:04 I DO HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION, IF THEY COULD BRING IT UP,
10:00:09 BRIEF SLIDES, JUST A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
10:00:14 I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF SWEEP AND
10:00:17 HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.
10:00:18 IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, SOME OF YOU ALL BEEN HERE AS LONG AS I
10:00:22 HAVE, THE PROGRAM ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT AS NEAT.
10:00:24 WHICH WAS A ACRONYM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ENVIRONMENTAL
10:00:28 ACTION TEAM.
10:00:29 THAT'S WHEN THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT AND PARKS AND REC
10:00:32 WOULD COMBINE FORCES.
10:00:34 PARKS AND REC WOULD MANICURE THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS, THE
10:00:37 SIDEWALKS, AND WHAT NOT, AND THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT
10:00:40 WOULD COLLECT ALL THE MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS THAT RESIDENTS OUT
10:00:44 IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:00:45 BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THE PROGRAM, YOU ALSO HAD COMMUNITY
10:00:47 INVOLVEMENT, MEANING THAT MEMBERS THAT LIVED IN THOSE
10:00:49 COMMUNITIES, REPRESENTED THOSE COMMUNITIES WOULD ACTUALLY
10:00:52 COME OUT AND WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH US.
10:00:54 AS WE -- UNDER THE IORIO ADMINISTRATION, WE HAD THE
10:01:00 EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS TASK FORCE THAT WAS BROUGHT ON
10:01:04 BOARD TO REALLY ANALYZE HOW WE COULD IMPROVE SERVICES.
10:01:07 AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME IS WHEN WE DEVELOPED SWEEP, THE
10:01:11 SOLID WASTE ENHANCED -- OR ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENT
10:01:14 PROGRAM.
10:01:15 NOW SWEEP BECAME OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND
10:01:22 DEPARTMENT.
10:01:22 WE OFFERED THE SERVICES ONCE A MONTH TO ALL -- TO THE
10:01:26 DESIGNATED NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH
10:01:29 NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD
10:01:31 WAS REPRESENTED.
10:01:32 JUST A COUPLE OF OVERVIEWS ABOUT THE SWEEP PROGRAM, SOME OF
10:01:39 THE FEATURES THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
10:01:41 IT'S DESIGNED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY CUSTOMERS OR RESIDENTS THAT
10:01:45 PARTICIPATE OR PAY INTO THE SOLID WASTE SYSTEM.
10:01:47 IT'S ABOUT 40 CLEANUPS WE OFFER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
10:01:54 EACH NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY NOW FOR A ONE-WEEK
10:01:58 LONG CLEANUP IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:01:59 OF COURSE, REMOVE MISCELLANEOUS DEBRIS UP TO TEN CUBIC
10:02:04 YARDS.
10:02:04 WE TRY TO CAP THE LIMIT ON THAT SO THAT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS
10:02:06 AND ALL OF OUR PARTICIPANTS CAN ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THE
10:02:10 PROGRAM.
10:02:10 JUST A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL FEATURES THAT WE ALSO LIKE TO
10:02:14 HIGHLIGHT.
10:02:15 WE HAVE TO PROHIBIT MATERIALS THAT WE COLLECT, SUCH AS
10:02:17 CHEMICALS AND PAINTS AND SOLVENTS.
10:02:22 WE OFFER OUTLETS.
10:02:24 WE COMBINED FORCES WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SOLID WASTE
10:02:26 MANAGEMENT DIVISION, AND NOW CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENTS CAN
10:02:29 TAKE THOSE CHEMICALS, THOSE ITEMS, THOSE MATERIALS THAT WE
10:02:32 DON'T COLLECT TO ANY ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES IN THE COUNTY,
10:02:36 AND THEN WE PAY FOR ALL OF THE USAGE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
10:02:41 THEN WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUOUSLY ENHANCE HOW WE PUBLICIZE
10:02:47 AND NOTIFY RESIDENTS OF THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
10:02:50 NOW, THE CHART THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS
10:02:51 WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU LOG ON TO THE WEBSITE.
10:02:54 THE BOUNDARIES FOR EACH CORRESPONDING COMMUNITY, AND THEN
10:02:57 ALSO ADDED SOME OF THE PARTICIPATION AND UNITS OF TONNAGE
10:03:02 THAT WE COLLECT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
10:03:04 SO JUST KIND OF TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ONES YOU SEE UP
10:03:08 HERE.
10:03:08 THE ONES IN MARCH, WHERE YOU SEE THE NUMBER PEAK THE
10:03:11 HIGHEST, THAT WOULD BE THE NORTHEAST TAMPA COMMUNITY, AND
10:03:13 THEN AS YOU GET AROUND MAYBE JULY, AUGUST, TOWARDS THE END
10:03:17 OF THE YEAR, WE NORMALLY WIND UP IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA.
10:03:19 PROGRAM COSTS, SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF.
10:03:26 SO WHEN I WAS OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN TO TALK
10:03:29 ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO EXPAND THOSE SERVICES, I ALSO
10:03:32 WANT TO IMPRESS UPON EVERYONE THAT THE SOLID WASTE
10:03:35 DEPARTMENT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND DEPARTMENT.
10:03:37 THAT MEANS WE ARE FUNDED BY RATEPAYERS.
10:03:39 AND WE ALSO HAVE BOND COVENANTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AS
10:03:43 WELL.
10:03:44 AND ONE OF THE PROVISIONS IN THAT BOND COVENANT IS NOT TO
10:03:49 PROVIDE FREE SERVICES FOR OUR BOND HOLDERS.
10:03:51 THAT HELPS PROTECT THE DEPARTMENT IN CASE WE NEED TO GET
10:03:55 EVALUATED FOR CREDIT OR WE NEED TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL BONDS
10:04:00 IN THE FUTURE.
10:04:00 SO AS YOU CAN SEE MONTHLY, IT COSTS US ABOUT 22,500 TO
10:04:05 CONDUCT THE SWEEP PROGRAM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:04:07 AND ANNUALLY, ABOUT 900,000.
10:04:09 I HIGHLIGHTED THE TOP THREE CATEGORIES.
10:04:15 COST EXPENSE CATEGORIES FOR THAT PROGRAM.
10:04:18 YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE JUST ABOUT EQUAL THEY OCCUPY.
10:04:22 DISPOSAL, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE.
10:04:24 PERSONNEL COST AND EQUIPMENT COST.
10:04:26 SO THOSE THAT -- THAT PREDOMINANTLY MAKES UP THE SWEEP
10:04:30 PROGRAM AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS YOU SEE.
10:04:32 NOW, IF WE EXPAND THAT SERVICE AND WE SAY WE WANT TO COME TO
10:04:35 EACH NEIGHBORHOOD ONCE A MONTH, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A
10:04:38 GREAT IDEA, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE ASK
10:04:42 FOR.
10:04:42 INITIAL PROJECTIONS PUT US AROUND $10,800,000 FOR THE
10:04:48 SERVICE, AGAIN, WITH THE THREE CATEGORIES BEING THE LEADING
10:04:51 EXPENSE CATEGORIES.
10:04:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO --
10:04:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, NO.
10:04:56 NOT NOW.
10:04:58 >>MARK WILFALK: ABSOLUTELY.
10:04:58 SO IN TERMS, I HEAR THE COMMENT SOMETIMES, HEY, LET'S SEE IF
10:05:04 WE CAN DO THIS MORE OFTEN AND BEING IN THE INDUSTRY 20-PLUS
10:05:09 YEARS, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
10:05:12 FOLKS EXPAND THAT SERVICE, WHEN MUNICIPALITIES EXPAND THAT
10:05:15 SERVICE.
10:05:15 ALTHOUGH THE RIGHT INTENT IS IN MIND, EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE
10:05:19 THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK CLEANER AND WHATNOT, ACTUALLY, THE
10:05:24 OPPOSITE EFFECT TENDS TO HAPPEN AT TIMES; MEANING THAT IF
10:05:28 THEY KNOW -- PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU'RE COMING TO A
10:05:31 NEIGHBORHOOD TO COLLECT, THEN YOU TEND TO HAVE MORE GARBAGE
10:05:33 IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, MORE ACCUMULATIONS, MORE MISCELLANEOUS
10:05:37 DEBRIS GATHERING ON THE ROADWAYS.
10:05:40 I'VE SEEN MUNICIPALITIES EVOLVE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE
10:05:42 ACTUALLY HAD TO ORDER ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT, ADDITIONAL
10:05:45 EMPLOYEES, AND IT REALLY TAKES THEIR BUDGET AND IT
10:05:48 SKYROCKETS IT THROUGH THE ROOF.
10:05:51 BUT NONETHELESS, I STILL THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME
10:05:53 OPPORTUNITIES AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE PROVIDING SUCCESSFUL
10:05:56 SERVICES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SWEEP PROGRAM, BUT I THINK WE
10:05:59 NEED TO CONTINUE ON DOWN THAT ROAD AND AS RESPONSIBLE A
10:06:03 FORMAT AS WE CAN TO OUR RATEPAYERS.
10:06:05 WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO CONTROL THE PROGRAM COSTS AS WELL
10:06:09 AS MAINTAIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT AND CONTROL BLIGHT IN
10:06:12 THE COMMUNITIES.
10:06:13 WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE NOTIFICATIONS TO
10:06:16 OUR CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO
10:06:19 COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS, COME TO THOSE
10:06:22 MEETINGS, GET OUT, LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
10:06:25 THEN WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAXIMIZE SOME OF THOSE
10:06:28 OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR FREE
10:06:30 DISPOSAL AT MCKAY BAY AS WELL, AND RESIDENTS CAN ALWAYS TAKE
10:06:35 ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A MATCHING ID AND
10:06:39 UTILITY BILL, AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS TO MAKE SURE
10:06:41 THAT WE OFFER THAT SERVICE TO FOLKS WHO SUPPORT THE SOLID
10:06:44 WASTE SYSTEM.
10:06:45 BUT WE ALSO WANT TO -- THE LAST BULLET UP THERE HIGHLIGHTS
10:06:49 SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF IS GOING TO WORK ON THIS YEAR, AND
10:06:52 THAT IS ADDRESS QUALIFYING -- OR DEVELOPING AND ADDRESS
10:06:56 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT QUALIFY FOR ADDITIONAL COLLECTION.
10:06:59 WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?
10:07:00 WELL, WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT OUR BOUNDARIES ARE.
10:07:03 WE KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE PARTICIPATION RATES COULD BE WHEN
10:07:07 IT COMES DOWN TO TONNAGE, HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND IN THAT, IN
10:07:10 THOSE ARENAS AND THOSE DESIGNATED AREAS, SO AS WE CONTINUE
10:07:14 TO DEVELOP OUR CHARTS AND METRICS AND WE ANALYZE OUR
10:07:17 RESULTS, WE WANT TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
10:07:20 PRODUCE DEBRIS ABOVE THE MEDIAN, ABOVE WHAT THE AVERAGE
10:07:26 HOUSEHOLD SET-OUT RATE MAY BE IN TERMS OF TONNAGE OR POUNDS
10:07:30 PER HOME.
10:07:30 THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF DIAL IN ON SOME OF
10:07:35 THOSE AREAS THAT MAY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL ATTENTION AND SEE
10:07:37 WHAT WE CAN DO TO WORK WITH SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY LEADERS
10:07:41 TO, AGAIN, HELP CONTROL THE BLIGHT.
10:07:43 HELP CONTROL ACCUMULATIONS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL.
10:07:46 THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:07:49 I'M HERE -- HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:07:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
10:07:55 THE REASON -- WHAT LED ME TO ASK YOU TO COME GIVE THIS
10:07:59 PRESENTATION IS I'M DOING SOME WORK IN MY CONDOMINIUM.
10:08:01 I'M DOING DEMOLITION.
10:08:02 I TOOK IT DOWN TO THE MCKAY BAY FACILITY TO DISPOSE OF
10:08:07 CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS.
10:08:08 BUT AS I WAS PASSING TO GO DOWN TO MCKAY BAY, I WOULD NOTICE
10:08:12 ALONG THE SIDE OF MANY ROADWAYS MATTRESSES, JUNK, TRASH,
10:08:16 DEBRIS.
10:08:17 AS I POSTED THIS ON MY Facebook POST HOW WONDERFUL THIS
10:08:21 MCKAY BAY FACILITY IS AND HOW INEXPENSIVE IT IS, IT WAS
10:08:26 BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE IN OUR
10:08:28 COMMUNITY THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT.
10:08:30 AS I SEE FROM ONE OF YOUR BULLET POINTS, THERE ARE
10:08:34 OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT DAYS FOR FREE DISPOSAL, OF
10:08:37 COURSE, WITH THE ID AND THE BILL THAT PEOPLE GET.
10:08:40 CAN WE GET THAT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY?
10:08:43 HOW CAN WE INFORM -- BETTER INFORM OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT?
10:08:49 >>MARK WILFALK: ABSOLUTELY.
10:08:50 GOOD QUESTION.
10:08:50 THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED EARLIER WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SHOW
10:08:53 OUR PRESENCE AT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT
10:08:55 OCCUR.
10:08:56 AND WE FEEL, BASED ON MY OBSERVATIONS, A LOT OF THOSE CIVIC
10:09:01 ORGANIZATION LEADERS, NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS, KNOW THEIR
10:09:04 COMMUNITIES BEST.
10:09:05 WE FEEL WORKING THROUGH THEM, THEY CAN POINT US DIRECTLY TO
10:09:08 WHERE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS MAY BE THAT MAY NEED SOME
10:09:11 ADDITIONAL ATTENTION SO WE CAN POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT
10:09:15 DIRECTION AND GET THEM THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.
10:09:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE MCKAY BAY FACILITY, I
10:09:23 WAS IN AND OUT IN 20 MINUTES.
10:09:26 I HAD TO DO A LITTLE EXERCISE MYSELF OF UNLOADING MY F-150
10:09:28 OUT OF THE BACK.
10:09:29 IT WAS VERY COST EFFECTIVE FOR ME.
10:09:31 AND ONE MORE ACCOLADE FOR SOLID WASTE.
10:09:33 IT AMAZES ME HOW YOUR CREW, YOUR PERSONNEL, CAN TAKE
10:09:39 BAYSHORE, WITH HALF A MILLION PEOPLE ON IT, AND GET IT
10:09:43 CLEANED AND TRAFFIC FLOWING AGAIN WITHIN FOUR TO SIX HOURS.
10:09:47 I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:09:48 >>MARK WILFALK: VERY WELCOME.
10:09:49 I WILL DEFINITELY PASS THAT ON TO THE TEAM.
10:09:52 I'M IN YOUR CATEGORY.
10:09:55 I'M ON THAT SIDE WITH YOU AS WELL.
10:09:57 I'M ALWAYS AMAZED EACH YEAR THE WORK THEY PULL TOGETHER, NOT
10:10:01 ONLY WITH THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES, BUT ALL THE
10:10:03 OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT JOIN ALONG WITH US TO KIND OF HELP
10:10:07 OUT.
10:10:08 OVER THE YEARS, I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE WOULD
10:10:11 FINISH AT 6 IN THE MORNING.
10:10:13 TECHNOLOGY COMES ALONG, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE CREWS
10:10:16 ARE FINISHED AROUND 11:30, 12:00.
10:10:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:10:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:10:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CITRO, FOR RECOGNITION OF
10:10:27 THAT.
10:10:27 HE'S RIGHT.
10:10:28 I KNOW EVERY YEAR WHEN I'M IN THE PARADE ON THE FLOAT,
10:10:30 MR. DINGFELDER WAS WITH US THIS PAST SATURDAY, WE ALWAYS
10:10:35 SHOUT-OUT TO THE SOLID WASTE WORKERS AND CITY EMPLOYEES WHO
10:10:37 ARE OUT THERE WORKING AND DOING A FABULOUS JOB.
10:10:41 WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER WHERE PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT
10:10:44 COMMUNICATION.
10:10:44 I THINK WE LACK THAT SOMETIMES IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.
10:10:46 I LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID FOR THE FAIR OAKS GROUP,
10:10:49 AND SOMETIMES EVERYONE, YOU GET THOSE WATER BILLS, AND I'M A
10:10:53 PERFECT EXAMPLE.
10:10:54 THE FIRST THING I LOOK AT IS THE BILL, HOW MUCH IT IS.
10:10:57 I LOOK AT NOTHING ELSE.
10:10:58 THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO INTRIGUE ME TO LOOK AT ANYTHING ELSE
10:11:01 IN THE BILL.
10:11:02 I'M JUST CANDID WITH YOU ON THAT.
10:11:03 I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS A LOT OF TIMES WITH OUR
10:11:06 RESIDENTS.
10:11:07 I DID SEE WHERE MR. McGREGOR GOT ON THE RADIO STATION AND
10:11:11 TOLD PEOPLE ABOUT THE TIME AND WHEN THE MEETING WAS.
10:11:15 THAT WENT OUT TO EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND WHEN AND WHERE THE
10:11:18 MEETING WAS BEING HELD.
10:11:20 THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER OBSTACLE WE CAN JUMP OVER TO BE ABLE
10:11:24 TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO BY MAYBE DOING PSAs.
10:11:28 COMING HERE OR THERE, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T
10:11:31 KNOW.
10:11:32 AGAIN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BEING ABLE TO TAKE YOUR GARBAGE
10:11:37 TO MCKAY BAY, ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA, A LOT OF PEOPLE
10:11:42 DON'T HAVE VEHICLES TO DO THAT.
10:11:43 THAT'S ANOTHER CHALLENGE FOR US ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
10:11:45 I KNOW WE HAVE SOME WORKERS THAT WORK WITH THE ENHANCEMENT
10:11:51 TEAM FROM THE CRA.
10:11:54 AND MY THING IS I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE
10:11:56 NOTIFICATION WHEN THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING, HAVE MAYBE
10:11:59 ANOTHER KIND OF DROP-OFF AREA OR SOMETHING, ONCE A MONTH, OR
10:12:03 MAYBE EVERY TWO WEEKS, HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO AND
10:12:05 DUMP WHATEVER, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COST, BUT I DON'T
10:12:08 THINK IT WILL COST US THAT MUCH, HAVE A CERTAIN LOCATION
10:12:11 SOMEWHERE, AND A COUPLE OF AREAS SO THEY CAN SET IT, DUMP IT
10:12:15 OR A TRUCK IS THERE AND YOU BRING IT TO THE TRUCK.
10:12:18 BRING IT TO OUR TRUCK AND GET IT TO MCKAY BAY.
10:12:20 JUST OTHER IDEAS THAT I THINK WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE THAT.
10:12:25 WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
10:12:27 ALSO, IF YOU CAN GET WITH MR. GLIDER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA,
10:12:33 THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, I KNOW HE HAS CONCERNS,
10:12:37 SUGGESTIONS.
10:12:38 IF YOU CAN GET WITH HIM TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS HE'S
10:12:41 TALKING ABOUT.
10:12:41 A LOT OF TIMES, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I LOVE OUR WORKERS,
10:12:43 BUT SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S DEBRIS BY SOMEONE'S HOUSE, I JUST
10:12:47 THINK IF THEY ARE PICKING THE TRASH UP TO DUMP, AND THEY SEE
10:12:50 THIS PILE OF RUBBISH AND WHATEVER, I THINK WE SHOULD BE
10:12:53 DOCUMENTING THAT TO WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO GO OUT THERE,
10:12:56 TALK TO THE RESIDENT OR WE PICK IT UP AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO
10:12:59 DO.
10:12:59 I THINK IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF KEEPING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CLEAN,
10:13:01 ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:13:07 >>MARK WILFALK: DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
10:13:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, MARK.
10:13:10 A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS, AND I APPRECIATE THE DECADES OF WORK
10:13:15 YOU'VE PUT IN FOR OUR CITY.
10:13:18 SO DON'T TAKE ANY OF THIS PERSONALLY.
10:13:20 COUNCILMAN CITRO HAD A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN I'VE HAD
10:13:27 RECENTLY AT MCKAY BAY WITH MY F-250.
10:13:32 I GET OUT THERE AND I LOOK AT THAT LINE AND I GO, THAT'S AN
10:13:38 HOUR-LONG WAIT.
10:13:40 THAT'S AN HOUR-LONG WAIT AND I'M JUST GOING TO CIRCLE BACK
10:13:45 AND COME LATER.
10:13:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JOHN, YOU HAVE TO GET UP EARLY.
10:13:48 THE EARLY BIRD DUMPS THE TRASH.
10:13:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW PART OF THIS WILL BE SOLVED WHEN
10:13:54 WE REBUILD THE STATION.
10:13:56 BUT I'VE MADE THE SUGGESTION LAST YEAR, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN
10:14:00 IT, THAT WE HAVE A SIGN, A DIGITAL SIGN OUT THERE.
10:14:04 YOU'VE GOT A SECURITY GUY, AND WE COULD CHANGE IT
10:14:09 PERIODICALLY TO SHOW WHAT THE WAIT TIME IS.
10:14:12 PART OF MY PROBLEM IS ONCE YOU GET IN THE LINE, THERE'S
10:14:15 REALLY NO WAY OUT.
10:14:16 YOU'RE SORT OF STUCK.
10:14:17 SO PEOPLE HAD A LITTLE WARNING BEFORE THEY MADE THE TURN OUT
10:14:22 THERE ON THE MAIN STREET AND IT SAID 30 MINUTES OR 45
10:14:25 MINUTES, ESTIMATED WAIT TIME, THEN MAYBE THEY JUST GET OUT
10:14:30 AND COME BACK LATER WHEN IT'S A LITTLE LESS.
10:14:32 ANYWAY, JUST A SUGGESTION.
10:14:34 ON TO SOME OF THE BIGGER ISSUES, AND COUNCILMAN CITRO, I
10:14:40 APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO WORKSHOP.
10:14:42 I THINK IT'S GOOD.
10:14:43 I REMEMBER THE NEAT PROGRAM.
10:14:45 I WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT BACK UNDER MAYOR FREEDMAN,
10:14:49 WHEN WE WERE DOING NEAT, AND THEN SOMEBODY THOUGHT THAT
10:14:52 ACRONYM NEEDS UPGRADING AND WE WENT TO SWEEP.
10:14:57 I KNOW WE HAVE A PERSON SOMEWHERE THAT JUST DOES ACRONYMS.
10:15:01 BUT ANYWAY, I DO RECALL MORE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE INVOLVED
10:15:09 WHEN WE WERE DOING NEAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS WOULD
10:15:11 ACTUALLY COME OUT AND HELP YOU GUYS, AND DO ALLEYS.
10:15:16 I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE STILL DOING ALLEYS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS
10:15:18 AND THAT SORT OF THING.
10:15:19 I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT HELP ME OUT ON NEAT
10:15:23 VERSUS SWEEP.
10:15:24 IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE PERHAPS TO GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE
10:15:27 NEAT CONCEPTS AS RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOODS?
10:15:31 >>MARK WILFALK: WELL, I THINK -- I DON'T THINK THE CITY
10:15:33 ABANDONED THE NEAT CONCEPT.
10:15:35 I THINK IT WAS A MATTER OF JUST GETTING THOSE DUTIES ALIGNED
10:15:40 WITH THE PROSPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS.
10:15:41 AGAIN, I MENTIONED SOLID WASTE IS BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND
10:15:45 DEPARTMENT, THE COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH PUTTING ON
10:15:47 THE PROGRAM, PAYING THE EMPLOYEES, AND WHATNOT.
10:15:50 ALL OF THAT NEEDED TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE SOLID WASTE
10:15:56 DEPARTMENT.
10:15:56 THEN I KNOW THE CITY STILL HAS NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT
10:15:59 DEPARTMENT THAT GOES AROUND AND THEY STILL MANICURE THE
10:16:02 SIDEWALKS AND WE STILL WORK WITH THEM FROM TIME TO TIME.
10:16:05 AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY JOINED FORCES WITH US AT THE
10:16:07 GASPARILLA AS WELL.
10:16:09 AGAIN, THAT'S THEIR LINE OF BUSINESS, TO KIND OF MANICURE
10:16:13 THE SIDEWALKS.
10:16:13 I KNOW THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SCHEDULE THAT THEY MOVED
10:16:17 THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH.
10:16:18 BUT WE PRIMARILY FOCUS ON DEBRIS REMOVAL FROM RESIDENTS THAT
10:16:25 PAY INTO THE SOLID WASTE SYSTEM.
10:16:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
10:16:29 ORGANIZING DURING THEIR PARTICULAR SWEEP WEEK TO HELP YOU
10:16:34 GUYS OR TO DO ANYTHING?
10:16:36 >>MARK WILFALK: YEAH, THEY HELP GET THE WORD OUT.
10:16:38 THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE AND
10:16:42 INVOLVED THAN OTHERS, BUT THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THE
10:16:45 WORD OUT.
10:16:45 THEY REALLY WANT TO COMMUNICATE IT.
10:16:47 IN FACT, THEY ACTUALLY GET UPSET IF THEY FIND OUT THAT WE'RE
10:16:50 COMING AND THEY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO NOTIFY SOME OF THEIR
10:16:54 COMMUNITY.
10:16:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL PART.
10:16:56 >>MARK WILFALK: NO, NOT THE ACTUALLY PHYSICAL PART.
10:16:58 YOU HAVE RISK MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT FROM
10:17:01 TIME TO TIME.
10:17:01 BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT EVOLVED AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE
10:17:05 ARE NOW.
10:17:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE ALLEYS?
10:17:07 IS THAT THE OTHER GROUP, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT FOLKS?
10:17:10 >>MARK WILFALK: YES, WE TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE ALLEYS AS
10:17:12 OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.
10:17:15 THEY ARE ACTUALLY OUR NEMESIS.
10:17:16 A LOT OF BAD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE ALLEYS.
10:17:18 TRYING TO FIT THOSE BIG TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT THROUGH THAT
10:17:21 ALLEY IS VERY CHALLENGING.
10:17:22 SO WE TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE ALLEYS WHEN POSSIBLE, AND WE
10:17:26 ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT FOLKS HAVE THAT DEBRIS AT THE
10:17:28 CURBSIDE.
10:17:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO THE FREE DISPOSAL, IT'S MY
10:17:35 EXPERIENCE AT MCKAY BAY THAT IT'S ONLY FREE IF IT'S YARD
10:17:38 WASTE, THAT IF YOU HAVE A MIXTURE OF CONSTRUCTION OR ANY
10:17:42 OTHER TYPE OF HOUSEHOLD WEST THAT CONTAMINATES YOUR YARD
10:17:52 WASTE, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU ARE PAYING BY THE TON, NO MATTER
10:17:55 WHERE YOU LIVE.
10:17:56 EVEN IF YOU ARE A CITY RESIDENT.
10:17:57 >>MARK WILFALK: EXACTLY.
10:17:58 WE TAKE OTHER ITEMS, TOO.
10:18:00 SOME OF THE ITEMS WE COLLECT DURING THE SWEEP PROGRAM, WE
10:18:03 ALSO ACCEPT THAT FOR FREE AT MCKAY BAY, AGAIN WITH MATCHING
10:18:06 ID AND UTILITY BILL.
10:18:08 THAT'S TO HELP CONTROL FOLKS FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
10:18:11 SYSTEM OR PREVENT PEOPLE FROM TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
10:18:13 THE SYSTEM.
10:18:14 IF YOU HAVE A COUCH, OLD SOFA, TV, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE
10:18:18 AND YOU NEED TO DISPOSE OF THAT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO
10:18:21 DISPOSE OF THAT FREE OF CHARGE.
10:18:23 YOU ALREADY PAID FOR IT THROUGH YOUR MONTHLY SERVICE.
10:18:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS JOE INDICATED, AND I'VE BEEN DOING
10:18:33 SOME OF IT MYSELF, IF I HAVE DEMOLITION STUFF, DRYWALL AND
10:18:36 TWO BY FOURS AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT'S NOT FREE.
10:18:39 >>MARK WILFALK: ABSOLUTELY.
10:18:41 YOU'RE CORRECT.
10:18:41 THERE IS A CHARGE PER TON ON THAT TYPE OF MATERIAL.
10:18:44 IT'S HANDLED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
10:18:46 I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT FREE
10:18:50 DISPOSAL PROGRAM THAT WE WANT TO EVALUATE.
10:18:52 AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH RULES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR
10:18:57 PROBABLY SINCE I WAS JUST A TWINKLE IN MOM AND DAD'S EYE.
10:19:00 IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE ASPECTS AND CONTROLS OF
10:19:04 THE PROGRAM TO SEE WHERE WE COULD POSSIBLY ENHANCE THAT.
10:19:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, AND I WAS THINKING MAYBE THERE'S A
10:19:10 CERTAIN DAY, YOU KNOW, ONCE A MONTH OR SOMETHING THAT'S FREE
10:19:14 TO CITY RESIDENTS NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.
10:19:17 AND THEN THAT WAY, THAT MIGHT TAKE BURDEN OFF YOUR SWEEP
10:19:20 PROGRAM.
10:19:21 >>MARK WILFALK: IT VERY WELL COULD.
10:19:23 WE'LL KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT.
10:19:24 AGAIN, DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING JUST YET, BUT WE DO
10:19:29 WANT TO GO BACK AND KIND OF ANALYZE EVERYTHING AND TAKE A
10:19:32 DEEPER LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN OFFER.
10:19:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME ASK TO YOU COMMIT TO ONE THING.
10:19:36 MAYBE GIVE US A WRITTEN REPORT IN 60 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE
10:19:45 THAT IN REGARD TO ALL OF THESE SUGGESTIONS.
10:19:48 >>MARK WILFALK: ABSOLUTELY.
10:19:49 WE'LL DEFINITELY DO.
10:19:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:19:52 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:19:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:19:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THAT A MOTION?
10:19:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CAN MAKE IT A MOTION IF YOU WISH.
10:19:59 SO MOVE, 60-DAY WRITTEN REPORT BACK.
10:20:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:20:05 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:20:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:06 OKAY.
10:20:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:09 >>MARK WILFALK: ALL RIGHTY.
10:20:10 THANK YOU.
10:20:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:20:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, JOSH FRANK, URBAN PLANNER, WHO
10:20:15 IS GOING TO DISCUSS CONVERTING A SECTION OF 275 TO A
10:20:20 BOULEVARD.
10:20:21 275, AS WE KNOW CUTS NORTH AND SOUTH THROUGH THE CITY.
10:20:27 I THINK IT WAS BUILT 1960s.
10:20:29 >>JOSH FRANK: LATE '50s.
10:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LATE '50s.
10:20:32 TAKE IT AWAY.
10:20:34 >>JOSH FRANK: AS SOON AS I HAVE MY PRESENTATION UP.
10:20:44 AGAIN, MY NAME IS JOSH FRANK, URBAN DESIGNER, PRINCIPAL AT
10:20:48 WIDE OPEN OFFICE.
10:20:48 SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
10:20:51 WHY I'M HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BRIEF BACKGROUND
10:20:55 AS TO WHY I'M HERE, WHAT THE PROJECT IS, WHERE WE ARE NOW AS
10:20:59 BEST AS I CAN DO IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES.
10:21:01 FIRST, I WANT TO START IN ABOUT 2015-2016, DISTRICT 7
10:21:05 UNVEILED TBX, FULLY BLOWN-OUT VERSION OF I-275 INCLUDING THE
10:21:11 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE, HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, STATE ROAD
10:21:13 60.
10:21:14 SO THIS WAS THE SORT OF IMPETUS THAT WE STARTED THIS
10:21:18 CONVERSATION AND A LOT OF OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT STILL ARE
10:21:21 ONGOING TODAY, BUT THIS WAS THE BEGINNING.
10:21:23 AND AS PART OF THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, THEY HIRED USF TO GO
10:21:29 OUT AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW THEY COULD MAKE THIS
10:21:31 PROJECT BETTER, INCLUDING ME.
10:21:33 I WORKED AT USF AT THAT TIME.
10:21:34 I WAS A STUDENT RESEARCH ASSOCIATE FOR THE SCHOOL OF
10:21:37 ARCHITECTURE AND COMMUNITY DESIGN.
10:21:38 SO THAT'S A PHOTO OF ME ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY
10:21:41 DURING THAT PROCESS.
10:21:42 AND THE COMMUNITY HATED IT.
10:21:45 THEY HATED EVERY ASPECT OF THE PLAN, THE IMPACTS, THE
10:21:48 STORMWATER IMPACTS, THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT WOULD BE GOING
10:21:51 INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:21:52 I SEE MR. RICK FERNANDEZ BACK THERE, HE'S IN THE PHOTO AS
10:21:55 WELL.
10:21:55 ESSENTIALLY, THERE WAS A MASSIVE CALL FOR CHANGE TO F.D.O.T.
10:22:02 TO THEIR CREDIT, F.D.O.T. HAS LISTENED.
10:22:05 BUT AT THAT TIME, I USED THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY
10:22:09 WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAD SAID WAS THEIR TRUE PREFERENCE, WHICH
10:22:13 WAS TO INCREASE TRANSIT, REDUCE CAR TRIPS, LOOK AT THIS
10:22:16 CORRIDOR FROM A FRESH APPROACH WITHOUT A PREDETERMINED
10:22:18 OUTCOME.
10:22:19 SO I USED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY AN ALTERNATIVE.
10:22:24 IT WAS BASICALLY A BLANK SLATE AT THAT POINT.
10:22:28 I HAD NOT DETERMINED IF YOU COULD REMOVE THE INTERSTATE,
10:22:30 WHETHER A IT WOULD LOOK LIKE OR WHAT YOU COULD DO.
10:22:32 IT WAS A VIGOROUS PROCESS -- GUESS MY SLIDES HAVE GOTTEN A
10:22:37 LITTLE DORKED HERE.
10:22:38 ESSENTIALLY FOUND OUT A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ARE LOOKING AT
10:22:41 THIS AND/OR HAVE DONE THIS, EVERYWHERE FROM ROCHESTER TO
10:22:45 DETROIT, PORTLAND, MILWAUKEE, SYRACUSE.
10:22:47 GOVERNOR OF TEXAS A FEW WEEKS AGO SAID AS TEXAS D.O.T. ARE
10:22:51 NO LONGER GOING TO BUILD NEW HIGHWAYS OR WIDEN HIGHWAYS AS A
10:22:55 STATE PRIORITY.
10:22:55 WE'RE SEEING THAT THIS IS A SORT OF OUTDATED MODEL OF
10:22:58 CONSTRUCTION THAT A LOT OF PLACES ARE CHOOSING TO DO
10:23:01 SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
10:23:02 THAT GOES TO, AGAIN, SOME OF MY EXAMPLES.
10:23:07 SAN FRANCISCO WITH THE EMBARCADERO FREEWAY LOOKS LIKE THIS
10:23:10 TODAY, HAVING REMOVED THEIR FREEWAY.
10:23:11 PORTLAND, WITH HARBOR DRIVE, SIMILAR TO SAN FRANCISCO, HAD
10:23:22 AN EARTHQUAKE AND CHOSE TO REMOVE THEIR HIGHWAY.
10:23:24 THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
10:23:24 IT'S A WATERFRONT PARK.
10:23:24 CITIES LIKE SEATTLE TODAY HAVE THE ALASKAN WAY VIADUCT.
10:23:27 YOU CAN SEE IT IS A DOUBLE-LAYER INTERSTATE THAT RUNS
10:23:30 THROUGH THE URBAN CORE ARE ACTUALLY REMOVING THAT CURRENTLY.
10:23:34 THIS IS NOT JUST ONE IDEA, SINGLE MOMENT.
10:23:36 THIS IS A TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING AROUND THE COUNTRY.
10:23:38 TO CONTINUE ON THAT TIMELINE, THIS PROJECT GOT A LITTLE
10:23:43 ATTENTION.
10:23:44 I'VE GIVEN A TON OF PRESENTATIONS.
10:23:47 I'VE BEEN ASKED TO INVITE -- INVITED TO TALK TO EVERYBODY
10:23:51 FROM THE TAMPA CHAMBER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND
10:23:54 ALL THREE MPOs.
10:23:56 PRESENTATION TO HILLSBOROUGH, PASCO, AND PINELLAS, AS WELL
10:23:58 AS OTHER EVENTS, CAFE TAMPA AND EVEN NATIONAL CONFERENCES
10:24:04 SUCH AS THE CNU TRANSPORTATION SUMMIT IN D.C.
10:24:08 SO THAT ALL HAPPENED ABOUT 2017-18.
10:24:12 AND IN 2019, WE MADE A NATIONAL REPORT.
10:24:16 THIS IS HOSTED BY CNU.
10:24:17 THEY PEER REVIEW HIGHWAY REMOVAL CAMPAIGNS FROM AROUND THE
10:24:21 COUNTRY AND LIST THE TOP TEN THAT NOT ONLY CAN BE REMOVED
10:24:24 BUT SHOULD BE REMOVED.
10:24:25 AND WE MADE THAT LIST, ALONG WITH AUSTIN, PORTLAND, AND A
10:24:28 FEW OTHER CITIES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.
10:24:30 MEANWHILE, BACK TO F.D.O.T., WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT MAJOR
10:24:34 EXPANSION OF THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE AND I-275.
10:24:37 SO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING AS A COMMUNITY
10:24:42 AND AS ADVOCATES HASN'T NECESSARILY REACHED F.D.O.T. TO THE
10:24:45 FULL EXTENT.
10:24:46 THESE ARE VERSIONS A, B, C AND D.
10:24:49 I THINK THEY SETTLED ON OPTION E, IN FAIRNESS, MUCH SMALLER
10:24:53 IMPACT THAN THE FOUR SCENARIOS, BUT STILL IMPACTFUL AND
10:24:55 STILL AN EXPANSION.
10:24:56 SO THAT IS SORT OF WHERE F.D.O.T. IS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE
10:25:01 SOMETHING HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME, WHERE THOSE OF YOU WHO
10:25:03 SIT ON THE MPO WILL KNOW THAT THE MPO HAS UNANIMOUSLY
10:25:06 SUPPORTED THE VISION AND THE IDEA TO STUDY THIS FURTHER.
10:25:12 IT MERITS FURTHER STUDY.
10:25:14 SO THEY HAVE ALLOCATED STUDY FUNDING FOR THAT.
10:25:16 I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE COMING UP IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR
10:25:19 SO.
10:25:20 SO WE'LL JOIN THAT LIST OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS
10:25:24 AT THIS POINT.
10:25:25 I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT NOW ABOUT WHAT THE PROJECT IS
10:25:28 EXACTLY.
10:25:28 THAT'S SORT OF A TIMELINE ON WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT WHAT IS IT?
10:25:32 WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?
10:25:34 I'LL START WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT I-275.
10:25:37 THIS IS SORT OF HOW I STARTED MY PROCESS.
10:25:39 ESSENTIALLY, I LOOKED AT STARTING FROM I-75, WE KNOW THAT
10:25:44 275 FROM I-75 TO DOWNTOWN TOUCHES EVERY TRANSECT OF OUR
10:25:49 CITY, FROM ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AREAS, RURAL AREAS,
10:25:53 WETLANDS, SUBURBS, UNIVERSITY AREA, AND SUBURBAN-STYLE
10:25:59 DEVELOPMENT DOWN THROUGH OUR URBAN CORE, URBAN HISTORIC
10:26:04 NEIGHBORHOODS, OVER THE RIVER.
10:26:06 YOU SEE HOW IT MEANDERS AND SORT OF WINDS ITS WAY.
10:26:10 IT'S NOT A PERFECTLY STRAIGHT LINE.
10:26:11 SO IT DOES TOUCH PRETTY MUCH EVERY SECTION.
10:26:14 AND ESSENTIALLY THE PART THAT I STUDIED ENDS AT THE DOWNTOWN
10:26:17 INTERCHANGE OR APPROXIMATELY ORANGE AVENUE, SOMEWHERE AROUND
10:26:20 ENCORE.
10:26:21 I LOOKED AT THAT AS THE GENERAL FOOTPRINT.
10:26:23 THE REST OF 275 GOING WEST, THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, WAS
10:26:26 NOT PART OF WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT.
10:26:28 THE WEST OF I-4 GOING EAST IS ALSO NOT WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT.
10:26:31 THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CASE STUDY.
10:26:33 SO AS PART OF THIS FOOTPRINT, WE KNOW THAT -- ALSO KNOW THAT
10:26:38 THIS WAS THE HEART OF TAMPA'S URBAN CORE.
10:26:40 THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE DENSE.
10:26:42 THEY WERE DENSELY CANOPIED BY TREES.
10:26:44 AND THE HOUSING STOCK IS MOSTLY SOME OF THE VERNACULAR
10:26:49 ARCHITECTURE THAT WE SEE AROUND TOWN, HISTORIC CRAFTSMAN
10:26:53 BUNGALOWS SO IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AND ALSO CENTRAL AVENUE,
10:26:56 WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT COMMERCIAL
10:27:00 CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT
10:27:03 ALSO FOR MINORITIES.
10:27:04 SO THAT SAME CIRCLE THAT I HAD ON THAT MAP IS WHERE THIS
10:27:07 PHOTO WAS TAKEN.
10:27:08 YOU CAN SEE JUST THE AMOUNT OF DIVISIVENESS THAT THIS MAJOR
10:27:12 FOOTPRINT HAS CAUSED, AND THIS WAS BACK IN THE '50s.
10:27:15 IT'S ONLY GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT WIDER.
10:27:17 SO ESSENTIALLY YOU TAKE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HAVE, AND
10:27:19 SPLIT THEM IN HALF AND LIMIT THEIR CONNECTIONS TO ONE
10:27:22 ANOTHER, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
10:27:25 YOU HAVE A MASSIVE FOOTPRINT THAT SEPARATES ABOUT FIVE OR
10:27:27 SIX NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS PHOTO.
10:27:29 THERE ARE ONLY TWO OR THREE PATHS UNDERNEATH.
10:27:31 THAT IS A MAJOR ISSUE FOR GETTING PEOPLE TO WALK, BIKE, FOR
10:27:34 SAFETY, FOR A LOT OF OTHER IMPORTANT CAUSES THAT WE LOOK AT
10:27:38 WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
10:27:40 SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A QUICK LIST OF THINGS WE KNOW
10:27:44 ABOUT I-275.
10:27:45 ONE, IT'S NOT REGIONAL.
10:27:46 OKAY, THIS CAME OUT OF SOME OF MY RESEARCH AND OUR PROJECT
10:27:50 WORK, IS THAT 66% OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE THIS CORRIDOR, USE
10:27:52 IT TWO OR THREE EXITS.
10:27:54 THEY GET ON AT HILLSBOROUGH AND GET OFF AT FLETCHER.
10:27:57 GET ON AT COLUMBUS AND GET OFF AT SLIGH.
10:28:00 THAT'S LOCAL COMMUTING.
10:28:01 THOSE PEOPLE ARE CHOICE TRANSIT RIDERS.
10:28:03 THEY WOULD, IF THEY HAD THE OPTION, TAKE A MORE RELIABLE
10:28:06 TRANSIT SERVICE THAN DRIVE ON THE INTERSTATE FOR A FEW
10:28:08 MINUTES.
10:28:09 WE CAN SEE THAT REINFORCED BY THE EXIT DATA.
10:28:13 MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING FROM DOWNTOWN USF.
10:28:15 THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND, RIGHT?
10:28:20 NUMBER TWO, THE INTERSTATE ACTUALLY CAUSES CONGESTION.
10:28:22 SO IT DOES THAT BY A PRINCIPLE CALLED INDUCED DEMAND.
10:28:26 WHICH MEANS, BASICALLY, IF YOU HAVE IT, THEY WILL USE IT.
10:28:29 IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
10:28:31 IF YOU WIDEN IT, MORE PEOPLE WILL USE IT.
10:28:33 IF YOU SHRINK THE CAPACITY, LESS PEOPLE WILL USE IT.
10:28:36 SO THE MORE YOU WIDEN, THE MORE CARS YOU'RE GOING TO GET.
10:28:39 IT IS THE UNIVERSAL PRINCIPLE OF TRANSPORTATION.
10:28:41 WE CAN SEE THAT BY OTHER CORRIDORS THAT ESSENTIALLY GO TO
10:28:44 THE SAME PRAISES, NEBRASKA, FLORIDA, 275, ALL GOING
10:28:47 NORTH-SOUTH, BUT THE CAPACITY ON I-275 MEANS MORE PEOPLE USE
10:28:51 THAT, EVEN THOUGH THEY ALL GO TO THE SAME PLACE.
10:28:53 SO, THIRD, IT HARMS NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:28:56 IT HARMS NEIGHBORHOODS IN A LOT OF WAYS.
10:28:58 IT'S LESS WALKABLE.
10:28:59 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE TO PUBLIX INSTEAD OF
10:29:02 WALKING FOR THREE MINUTES.
10:29:03 NOISE POLLUTION, AND CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY AND CERTAIN
10:29:08 TIMES OF THE YEAR, NOISE POLLUTION CAN EQUAL THAT OF SOME OF
10:29:11 THE RUNWAYS AT TPA.
10:29:13 AND AIR POLLUTION, WHICH SOME OF THE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT
10:29:16 TALKED ABOUT, FINE PARTICULATES, ALL THAT SORT OF THING,
10:29:19 IMPACTS PROPERTY VALUE, NOT JUST HEALTH.
10:29:21 SO THE REST OF THE REASONS ARE, YOU KNOW, TOO MANY TO TALK
10:29:25 ABOUT TODAY, BUT IT'S NOT EFFICIENT AT MOVING PEOPLE.
10:29:27 IT'S GOING TO AGE HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE STRUCTURALLY AND
10:29:31 GOING TO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
10:29:33 AND WIDENING WILL ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY AND
10:29:36 RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM THE CITY, POTENTIALLY ADDING A DOMAIN.
10:29:39 THE REASON WHY 275 IS BETTER AS A BOULEVARD ARE, ONE, YOU
10:29:42 GET THE DEVELOPABLE LAND BACK ON TAX ROLLS.
10:29:45 NO LONGER IS THAT PROPERTY DEPRESSED.
10:29:47 NO LONGER IS IT NOT GENERATING INCOME, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY
10:29:50 INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE CAN SEE FROM THE
10:29:52 PHYSICAL LAND THAT WE HAVE IN OUR URBAN CORE, WHICH IS VERY
10:29:55 LIMITED.
10:29:55 SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
10:29:57 BUT ALSO BECAUSE THE USE HAS CHANGED.
10:30:00 IF WE DESIGN THIS CORRIDOR FOR MOVING THESE PEOPLE, WE CAN
10:30:03 DO SO NOT ONLY MORE EFFICIENTLY, BUT WE CAN DO SO IN A WAY
10:30:06 THAT CAPTURES THAT VALUE THAT I SAID IN TERMS OF TOD,
10:30:10 TRANSIT ORIENTED DESIGN.
10:30:11 IN THE SAME DISTANCE, THE METRO LINE IN D.C. CARRIES 117,000
10:30:16 PEOPLE A DAY AS OPPOSED TO THE INTERSTATE CARRYING 150.
10:30:19 SO WE KNOW IT'S NOT A MATTER OF MODE.
10:30:22 OUR REGIONAL TRIPS HAVE ALTERNATIVES WITH THE VETERANS AND
10:30:25 I-75.
10:30:27 ESSENTIALLY GO THE SAME PLACES.
10:30:28 33% DO HAVE ALTERNATIVES.
10:30:30 WE CAN LOOK AT CSX AND OTHER OPTIONS BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE
10:30:33 BOULEVARD ITSELF, STILL A SIX-LANE ARTERIAL BOULEVARD.
10:30:36 CARRIES A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
10:30:37 SO THERE'S STILL POTENTIAL THERE.
10:30:39 DEVELOPMENT WILL FOLLOW.
10:30:41 THIS IS SEATTLE -- SINCE THEY ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING TO
10:30:44 TEAR IT DOWN, ONE PROPERTY HAS SOLD EVERY 11 DAYS IN THIS
10:30:48 CORRIDOR FOR A TOTAL OF $3 BILLION.
10:30:49 IT'S PAID FOR THE REMOVAL AND THE REPLACEMENT TUNNEL AND THE
10:30:52 REPLACEMENT BOULEVARD AND A WATERFRONT PARK.
10:30:54 SO THAT PROPERTY VALUE AND TAX INCREASE ALONE HAS PAID FOR
10:30:58 THIS PROJECT.
10:30:59 IN OUR CASE, WE HAVE ABOUT 35 TO 36 ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT
10:31:04 WE CAN DO THAT WITH.
10:31:05 INCREASES CONNECTIVITY.
10:31:07 DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO KNOW THAT IF YOU TAKE
10:31:09 THIS OUT, YOU RECONNECT THE GRID.
10:31:11 IT'S ONE OF THE FANTASTIC THINGS ABOUT TAMPA.
10:31:13 WE HAVE AN AMAZING GRID, BUT IT COMPLETELY LOSES ITS USE AND
10:31:17 EFFICIENCY AS A GRID WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING CUTTING IT INTO
10:31:20 11 THRUWAYS THAT GO UNDERNEATH IT, BECAUSE IT SOLVES
10:31:25 MALFUNCTION JUNCTION.
10:31:26 IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A JUNCTION, TRAFFIC WILL FLOW MUCH BETTER
10:31:31 THROUGH I-4, THROUGH DOWNTOWN.
10:31:31 THAT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO ELEVATE THAT PORTION.
10:31:33 MAKE THAT POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR PEOPLE GETTING
10:31:36 UNDERNEATH.
10:31:37 LASTLY, BECAUSE ALTERNATIVES MOVE MORE PEOPLE.
10:31:39 THIS IS A FANTASTIC GRAPHIC THAT, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE LANE OF
10:31:42 CAR TRAFFIC MOVES ABOUT 1600 PEOPLE PER HOUR.
10:31:45 CARS MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT PEOPLE PER HOUR IS VERY LOW
10:31:48 COMPARED TO POTENTIALLY A BIKE LANE, SIDEWALK USAGE, OR EVEN
10:31:52 TRANSIT USAGE.
10:31:53 ALL OF THOSE ARE HIGHER THAN A SINGLE USE OF AUTO LANES.
10:31:56 SO WE CAN MOVE MORE PEOPLE MORE EFFICIENTLY IN THAT CORRIDOR
10:31:59 THROUGH OTHER MEANS.
10:32:00 SO THE LAST SLIDE THAT I'VE GOT HERE, IS HOW DO WE GET
10:32:04 THERE, FUTURE WITHOUT I-275?
10:32:05 SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN TOMORROW.
10:32:08 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TAKING PITCH FORKS AND SHOVELS AND
10:32:11 TAKING IT OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT WHAT I THINK
10:32:15 NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THIS IS NOT JUST A GOAL, BUT AN OUTCOME
10:32:18 OF A BIGGER GOAL, WHICH IS REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF CAR TRIPS
10:32:21 WE HAVE AS A REGION, AND AS A CITY, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
10:32:25 BUT WE HAVE TO GET STARTED ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:32:28 AS PART OF ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION, AS PART OF THE MOBILITY
10:32:30 PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS PUT OUT, ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO
10:32:35 WORK TO THAT END TO REDUCE CAR TRIPS.
10:32:38 WE HAVE TO INVEST IN ALTERNATIVES, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS SMART
10:32:41 GROWTH IN LAND USE.
10:32:42 YOU CAN DO MORE WITH LAND USE SOMETIMES THAN YOU CAN WITH
10:32:44 CONCRETE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:32:45 IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT.
10:32:46 SO MY TAKEAWAY FOR THIS BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU MAKE A
10:32:51 DECISION ABOUT LAND USE OR WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION ABOUT
10:32:54 HEARING ABOUT A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT OR SOMETHING FROM
10:32:57 F.D.O.T. OR ANY AGENCY, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT IS
10:33:01 THIS PROJECT GOING TO DO TO REDUCE CAR TRIPS?
10:33:05 BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T OUTBUILD OUR GROWTH.
10:33:07 THE LAST EXAMPLE I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH IS THE CITY OF SEATTLE,
10:33:10 WHICH IS REMOVING THEIR ALASKAN WAY VIADUCT IS
10:33:13 SIMULTANEOUSLY THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTRY AND
10:33:17 THEY ARE REDUCING THEIR CAR TRIPS AND CAR DEPENDENCY.
10:33:22 THEY HAVE THEIR CAR OWNERSHIP LEVEL IS WHERE IT WAS IN THE
10:33:24 EARLY 1980s.
10:33:26 SO THEY ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY GROWING AND REDUCING THEIR CAR
10:33:30 TRIPS.
10:33:31 IT IS POSSIBLE.
10:33:32 YOU HAVE TO MODE SHIFT FOLKS AND GET THEM TO USE
10:33:34 ALTERNATIVES, BUT PART OF THAT IS BUILDING THEM FIRST AND
10:33:37 SUPPORTING THEM SECOND.
10:33:38 SO IT IS POSSIBLE.
10:33:39 IT'S NOT A CRAZY PIPE DREAM, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO THINK
10:33:44 ABOUT AT FIRST GLANCE, BUT IT IS A COMPLICATED PROCESS AND
10:33:47 COMPLICATED SUBJECT, BUT WITH THAT, I'LL FIELD ANY QUESTIONS
10:33:51 YOU MAY HAVE.
10:33:52 I THINK THAT'S THE FASTEST I'VE EVER GIVEN THAT
10:33:55 PRESENTATION.
10:33:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:58 >>JOSH FRANK: I APOLOGIZE IF I SKIPPED ANYTHING.
10:34:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE TO STEP OUT FOR TWO MINUTES.
10:34:02 I THINK BY PROCEDURE, I HAVE TO HAND THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMAN
10:34:05 MIRANDA TO RUN THE MEETING.
10:34:07 I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
10:34:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
10:34:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- PRESENTATION I'VE
10:34:21 BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT, READING ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS AND THAT
10:34:25 SORT OF THING, BUT I'M GLAD TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK
10:34:33 ABOUT IT FIRSTHAND.
10:34:35 TO BE HONEST, I'VE BEEN A LITTLE SKEPTICAL, JUST BECAUSE --
10:34:40 I MEAN, YOU POINT OUT THE NUMBERS RIGHT FROM THE START.
10:34:42 200,000 TRIPS A DAY.
10:34:45 I'M SURE IT'S GROWING EVERY DAY.
10:34:48 >>JOSH FRANK: CORRECT.
10:34:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME
10:34:51 GREATLY IS -- AND WE ALL KNOW THIS -- WHEN YOU IMPACT -- I
10:35:04 WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH SOMEBODY.
10:35:05 THEY SAID WE NEED TO SHRINK DOWN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD TO MAKE
10:35:09 IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, ET CETERA.
10:35:12 THEORETICALLY A GREAT IDEA, BUT THEN THOSE VEHICLES RIGHT
10:35:17 NOW HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE, AND THEY WOULD SHIFT OVER PROBABLY
10:35:20 TO MacDILL AND THEN YOU'D HAVE MORE TRAFFIC ON A
10:35:24 TWO-LANE ROAD LIKE MacDILL.
10:35:26 THAT SOLUTION IS TRY AND GET MORE OF THE MacDILL BASE
10:35:33 FOLKS UP ON THE EXPRESSWAY, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
10:35:36 ANYWAY, THE CONCEPT IS THE SAME.
10:35:38 IF WE HAVE 200,000 TRIPS GOING BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND
10:35:43 FLETCHER, FOWLER, WHAT HAVE YOU, AND WE BRING THAT DOWN TO A
10:35:51 BOULEVARD LEVEL, HOW MANY TRIPS CAN THE BOULEVARD HANDLE
10:35:54 WITHOUT MASS TRANSIT.
10:35:59 AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN YOU SHOWED THE THREE STREETS,
10:36:02 THE THREE PARALLEL STREETS, NEBRASKA AND FLORIDA DOWN HERE
10:36:06 AND THE INTERSTATE UP HERE, TO ME, LOGIC WOULD SAY, OKAY,
10:36:10 NOW NEBRASKA AND FLORIDA ARE GOING TO BE CRAMMED AND THEN
10:36:13 WHEN NEBRASKA AND FLORIDA GET CRAMMED, THEN PEOPLE START
10:36:16 CUTTING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:36:17 SO YOU SAY THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS IS GOOD, WELL, IT'S GOOD
10:36:22 SORT OF UNTIL THEY START CUTTING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AT
10:36:24 WHICH POINT THEY START CALLING THEIR CITY COUNCILMAN AND
10:36:28 SAYING WE HAVE TOO MUCH CUT-THRU.
10:36:31 WHICH I CAN TELL YOU IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BAY TO BAY AND
10:36:34 MacDILL, WHEN BAY TO BAY AND MacDILL GETS CLOGGED
10:36:38 UP, ALL THE SURROUNDING STREETS, SANTIAGO AND BARCELONA,
10:36:42 ET CETERA, EVERYBODY ZIGZAGS THROUGH THE STREETS.
10:36:47 >>JOSH FRANK: IF I MAY, THAT'S A COMMON RESPONSE, AND
10:36:49 PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT EVERY CAMPAIGN THAT HAS
10:36:53 FACED THIS HAS HEARD IS, WHERE IS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO GO?
10:36:55 PART OF THIS ANSWER --
10:36:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER THING.
10:36:58 IN SEATTLE, DIDN'T THEY CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE NORTH-SOUTH
10:37:05 INTERSTATE, LIKE, THAT WENT UNDERGROUND?
10:37:07 >>JOSH FRANK: A TUNNEL, YES.
10:37:08 REPLACEMENT TUNNEL.
10:37:09 SAME AS THE BIG DIG IN BOSTON.
10:37:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S NOT JUST A FUNCTION OF ELIMINATING
10:37:14 WITHOUT REPLACING IT WITH ANOTHER INTERCHANGE.
10:37:17 >>JOSH FRANK: CORRECT.
10:37:18 BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A FUNCTIONAL TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT CARRIES
10:37:21 MORE PEOPLE THAN THE INTERSTATE DOES ANYWAY.
10:37:23 THE LARGER ARGUMENT IS, AND, AGAIN, WE AS ADVOCATES AND
10:37:30 CAMPAIGNS FOR TAKING OUT FREEWAYS HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME,
10:37:34 WHERE DOES THE TRAFFIC GO?
10:37:36 TO ANSWER THE MORE SPECIFIC POINTS OF WHAT YOU'VE ASKED, FOR
10:37:39 ONE, THE FUNCTION OF A GRID IS THAT IT IS ABLE TO ABSORB
10:37:43 MORE TRAFFIC UNIFORMLY.
10:37:45 WHEN WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT HAS A HIERARCHY THAT IS
10:37:49 ESSENTIALLY LIKE A TREE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE TRUNK, MAIN
10:37:51 LIMBS, AND THEN SMALLER LIMBS, AND THEN CAPILLARIES,
10:37:54 ET CETERA, WHEN ONE OF THOSE FAILS, TRAFFIC THEN GOES TO THE
10:37:59 NEXT BIGGEST.
10:38:00 WHEN YOU HAVE A GRID THAT'S MORE UNIFORM, YOU'RE TALKING 1%,
10:38:04 2% INCREASE ACROSS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, WHERE THAT'S REALLY
10:38:08 IMPERCEIVABLE IN A LOT OF CASES.
10:38:11 SO IF I ASKED YOU, BALLPARK HOW MANY CARS A DAY ARE ON
10:38:17 KENNEDY AND YOU TELL ME, I DON'T KNOW, 60,000.
10:38:19 I TOLD YOU, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 35 IN A LOT OF PLACES AND IT
10:38:22 GOES UP TO 37, REALLY, WE FIND THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW AND
10:38:26 DON'T FEEL OR PERCEIVE.
10:38:28 AND IT'S REALLY NOT A MATTER OF MUCH DIFFERENCE IN TIME FOR
10:38:32 COMMUTING.
10:38:32 IT'S ONE MINUTE, TWO MINUTES, WHEREAS PART OF THIS IS AN
10:38:36 INVESTMENT -- SINCERE INVESTMENT IN TRANSIT.
10:38:38 IT'S NOT JUST REPLACING SIX LANES OF AN INTERSTATE WITH SIX
10:38:42 LANES OF SURFACE-LEVEL ROAD.
10:38:44 IT'S REPLACING INTERSTATE WITH SIX LANES OF SURFACE LEVEL
10:38:46 ROAD AND LIGHT-RAIL LINE POTENTIALLY AND CSX AND THE FERRY,
10:38:51 AND AN INVESTMENT IN BIKE-PED MOBILITY SO THAT THE BIGGER
10:38:55 PICTURE IS WE'RE NOT HAVING 200,000 CARS GO DOWN THAT
10:38:58 CORRIDOR, WHETHER IT'S FLORIDA, THE INTERSTATE, OR NEBRASKA,
10:39:01 BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO MOVE THOSE
10:39:03 200,000 PEOPLE.
10:39:04 AND SO IF YOU CAN CAPTURE 10% OF THAT INTO STREETCAR OR
10:39:09 LIGHT RAIL RIDERSHIP AND CAPTURE 5% IN BIKE TRIPS, AND YOU
10:39:12 CAN CAPTURE ANOTHER 5% IN BEING ABLE TO WALK TO THEIR OFFICE
10:39:17 OR PUBLIX INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO DRIVE TO PUBLIX, WHICH IS
10:39:21 A LAND USE ARGUMENT, THEN YOU BEGIN TO SHAVE THAT NUMBER
10:39:23 DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S NEGLIGIBLE.
10:39:26 AND, IN FACT, THAT'S WHERE A CITY LIKE SEATTLE HAS BEEN ABLE
10:39:29 TO SIMULTANEOUSLY, AGAIN, GROW BUT REDUCE THEIR TRIPS, AND
10:39:33 IT'S INVESTING IN THE ALTERNATIVES IN LAND USE AND SMART
10:39:36 GROWTH.
10:39:37 IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT IT IS A SYSTEMIC CONVERSATION, AND NOT
10:39:40 ONE THAT IS SIMPLY TURN OFF A VALVE, PRESSURE GOES UP HERE
10:39:45 AND WE CAN COMPENSATE FOR THAT.
10:39:48 IT'S A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION THAT I THINK AS
10:39:52 A CITY IS A VALUABLE ONE THAT WE NEED TO BE HAVING.
10:39:56 HOW CAN WE MOVE MORE PEOPLE MORE EFFICIENTLY SO THAT WAY
10:39:59 THESE DECISIONS ARE EASY TO MAKE AND NOT COMPLICATED OR
10:40:02 HARD.
10:40:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GLAD -- I'LL FINISH UP, MR. CHAIRMAN
10:40:07 -- I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THIS CONCEPT IS NOT AN ISOLATED
10:40:13 ONE, THAT IT'S HAND IN HAND WITH THESE OTHER MULTIMODAL
10:40:19 APPROACHES, INCLUDING VARIOUS FORMS OF MASS TRANSIT.
10:40:24 >>JOSH FRANK: YES.
10:40:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE SURE AS HECK BETTER HAVE THOSE
10:40:28 MASS TRANSITS -- NORTH-SOUTH MASS TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES IN
10:40:31 PLACE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BUS RAPID TRANSIT AND/OR RAIL AND
10:40:38 MORE TROLLEYS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BEFORE WE COME ANYWHERE
10:40:43 NEAR MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.
10:40:44 OTHERWISE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DISASTER.
10:40:49 >>JOSH FRANK: SURE.
10:40:49 I AGREE.
10:40:50 THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF IMPLICATIONS FOR HURRICANE EVACUATION
10:40:54 AND OTHER QUESTIONS.
10:40:55 THAT'S ANOTHER SUBJECT, WHICH I COULD TALK TO AT LENGTH, BUT
10:40:58 AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING BECAUSE
10:41:02 THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF I-275 ARE MASSIVE.
10:41:04 THEY DEPRESS PROPERTY VALUES.
10:41:06 THEY DEPRESS OUR HEALTH.
10:41:08 THE REASON WHY OUR ARTERIAL ROADS, HILLSBOROUGH, FLORIDA
10:41:12 AVENUE, ALL THESE OTHER ROADS ARE SO BACKED UP AND CONGESTED
10:41:15 IS BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE INTERSTATE.
10:41:18 SO WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG ON THE INTERSTATE, THOSE ROADS
10:41:21 ARE ALSO AFFECTED, AND THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO GET
10:41:24 CARS ON AND OFF THE INTERSTATE.
10:41:26 SO, AGAIN, IT'S A SYSTEMIC APPROACH AND TRULY THE DEFINITION
10:41:31 OF MULTIMODAL, BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT, THIS REALLY ISN'T
10:41:35 FEASIBLE.
10:41:36 SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE CITIES LIKE PORTLAND AND SEATTLE AND
10:41:39 ROCHESTER AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES HAVE HEAVILY INVESTED
10:41:43 IN TRANSIT IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS POINT.
10:41:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION.
10:41:47 LET'S SAY FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, 20 YEARS FROM NOW THIS IS IN
10:41:49 PLACE AND WE'VE GOT ALL THESE MULTIMODAL THINGS GOING ON,
10:41:53 BUT YOU STILL HAVE OUT-OF-STATE PEOPLE COMING DOWN, AND THEY
10:41:58 HIT THE BORDER UP THERE AT PASCO AND TYPICALLY, THEY'VE HAD
10:42:03 A CHOICE.
10:42:04 THEY GO LEFT OR RIGHT ON 75 OR 275.
10:42:07 NOW THEY GO EITHER TO THE BOULEVARD, BUT I GUESS MY POINT
10:42:11 IS, IF FOLKS ARE GOING TO NAPLES -- WELL, NO, THAT'S NOT --
10:42:17 IF FOLKS ARE GOING TO ST. PETE, WHERE YOU WOULD THINK THEY
10:42:22 WOULD GO AT THAT POINT?
10:42:24 GO DOWN 75 AND THEN PICK UP THE CROSSTOWN I GUESS AND COME
10:42:27 ACROSS THE CROSSTOWN?
10:42:30 >>JOSH FRANK: YOU CAN DO THAT.
10:42:31 THE VETERANS EXPRESSWAY, U.S. 19.
10:42:33 REGIONAL TRIPS HAVE A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES.
10:42:34 AND EVEN IN --
10:42:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CLEARLY WE'RE TAKING AWAY A REGIONAL TRIP
10:42:39 ALTERNATIVE.
10:42:39 >>JOSH FRANK: SURE, SURE.
10:42:40 HOWEVER, I WOULD ALSO SAY WE'RE PROVIDING MORE, WHEREAS IF
10:42:43 WE HAD A FUNCTIONAL REGIONAL CSX SYSTEM, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT
10:42:48 PERSON COULD PARK AND RIDE TO THEN TAKE A CSX TRAIN TO
10:42:51 ST. PETE OR CONNECT TO A FERRY TO GET TO ST. PETE.
10:42:54 THE POINT IS THAT THE REGIONAL TRIPS AND THE LOCAL TRIPS
10:42:58 NEED ALTERNATIVES.
10:42:59 IT'S NOT AN EITHER-OR.
10:43:01 IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT TO -- FOR THOSE FOLKS LIVING IN PASCO
10:43:05 COUNTY, IF THAT IS SORT OF AN ANTICIPATED AREA OF GROWTH,
10:43:09 RIGHT, SOME OF THESE PERIPHERAL SUBURBAN AREAS TO CAPTURE
10:43:13 THAT GROWTH IN AN URBAN SCENARIO THAT THOSE FOLKS MAYBE
10:43:16 DON'T NEED TO HAVE A CAR.
10:43:18 IT IS JUST AS MUCH AN ARGUMENT OF TAKING CARS OFF THE ROAD
10:43:21 AS IT IS PROVIDING ALTERNATIVES FOR CARS ON THE ROAD.
10:43:24 IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT CASE.
10:43:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR BECAUSE I'VE ASKED A
10:43:28 LOT.
10:43:29 BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS AT SOME POINT TO HEAR ABOUT
10:43:32 EVACUATION.
10:43:32 GO AHEAD.
10:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:34 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:43:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A LOT OF THINGS I WAS GOING TO BRING UP HAVE
10:43:37 ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
10:43:38 JOSH, YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS, AND I SUGGESTED YOU
10:43:44 TO MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMUNITY BOARDS TO
10:43:48 SPEAK ABOUT.
10:43:48 THE THING I'M MOST IMPRESSED WITH THIS IS THAT THE FOOTPRINT
10:43:53 DOESN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE, AND YOU'RE ADDING MULTIMODAL
10:43:58 SUCH AS RAIL, BIKE PATHS, WIDER SIDEWALKS, SOMETHING THAT
10:44:03 275 DOESN'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.
10:44:05 WE DO REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
10:44:10 HOWEVER, WITH THE ALTERNATIVES, IT'S NOT THE CITIZENS OF
10:44:16 TAMPA THAT CAUSE OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS.
10:44:18 IT'S THE PEOPLE COMING IN.
10:44:19 THE 150,000 EACH AND EVERY DAY COMING IN.
10:44:22 TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S POINT, IF WE TAKE THE TRUCKS OFF
10:44:27 OF 275 AND DIVERT THEM DOWN TO 75 AND I-4, THAT'S 10% OF THE
10:44:32 TRAFFIC PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.
10:44:33 IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE IN WESLEY CHAPEL, PASCO COUNTY TO RIDE
10:44:36 A TRAIL, THAT'S ANOTHER 10%.
10:44:38 SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PROPONENT OF THIS PLAN.
10:44:45 AGAIN, IT IS GOING TO TAKE YEARS.
10:44:47 IT'S GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC MASS TRANSPORTATION TO FIT IN WITH
10:44:50 THESE PLANS.
10:44:52 BUT, JOSH, I'VE ALWAYS LIKED YOUR PLAN.
10:44:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:44:55 >>JOSH FRANK: THANK YOU.
10:44:57 >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REALLY LIKE, LIKE MR. DINGFELDER SAID,
10:45:00 I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANYTHING UNTIL I GET ALL THE FACTS OR FOR
10:45:03 ANYTHING UNTIL I GET ALL THE FACTS.
10:45:04 BUT WHEN YOU GO DOWN AND JUST LOOK AT HISTORY, THERE WERE
10:45:06 TWO MAIN SHOPPING CENTERS IN THE CITY.
10:45:08 THERE WERE OTHERS, BUT THE MAIN ONES WERE DOWNTOWN AND YBOR
10:45:11 CITY.
10:45:12 WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
10:45:14 WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT WHEN BRITTON PLAZA OPENED UP AND
10:45:17 NORTH GATE OPENED UP, PEOPLE SAW SOMETHING NEW.
10:45:20 DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:45:21 WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TWO AREAS IN DOWNTOWN AND YBOR CITY?
10:45:23 THEY STARTED COLLAPSING.
10:45:25 YEAH, THE INTERSTATE HELPED.
10:45:26 I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT DIDN'T, BUT SO DID THE CIGAR FACTORS
10:45:32 AND THE PEOPLE WORKING THAT WERE NO LONGER NEEDED, THAT
10:45:35 DIDN'T HELP EITHER.
10:45:36 THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WENT INTO WHY WE ARE AT
10:45:39 WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
10:45:40 IN NORTH GATE AND BRITTON PLAZA, WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?
10:45:43 THEY ALSO COLLAPSED WHEN THE INSIDE MALLS CAME OUT AND MORE
10:45:46 TRAFFIC WENT TO THEM.
10:45:47 SO THERE'S AN EVOLUTION OF THINGS.
10:45:50 BIG MALLS ARE SUFFERING REAL BAD BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ONE, ONE
10:45:56 FINGER AND YOU CAN ORDER ANYTHING YOU WANT.
10:45:58 YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR, AND THE DOCTOR TELLS YOU, I WANT YOU
10:46:00 TO WALK TWO MILES A DAY OR FIVE MILES A DAY.
10:46:03 AND WE'RE SO STUPID THAT YOU CALL THE DOCTOR IN FIVE DAYS,
10:46:06 AND THE DOCTOR ASKS YOU, WHERE YOU AT?
10:46:11 SAID, I'M IN SARASOTA; YOU ASKED ME TO WALK TEN MILES A DAY
10:46:13 FOR FIVE DAYS.
10:46:13 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:46:13 SO THAT'S HOW WE ARE.
10:46:14 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND YOU REALIZE, HOW DID WE
10:46:15 GET HERE?
10:46:16 WE GOT HERE BECAUSE OF LAZINESS.
10:46:18 NOBODY WANTS TO WALK.
10:46:20 AND I'M NOT SAYING EVERYONE.
10:46:20 DON'T GET ME WRONG.
10:46:21 I DON'T WANT 10,000 CALLS COMING IN TODAY.
10:46:23 BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK.
10:46:26 GET A FINGER, YOU DIAL.
10:46:27 AND MOST LIKELY, IF YOU'RE SOMETHING PRIME OR GOLD, YOU GET
10:46:31 IT THE NEXT DAY, DELIVERED TO YOUR HOUSE.
10:46:33 ALL YOU'VE GOT TO DO IS OPEN THE FRONT DOOR AND PICK IT UP,
10:46:35 UNLESS A BURGLAR PICKS IT UP FOR YOU.
10:46:39 BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS HAPPENING IN SOCIETY.
10:46:41 YOU WANT MORE QUICKER WITH LESS ENERGY AND LESS EFFORT.
10:46:44 WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO SAY?
10:46:46 THE PUBLIC IS CONFUSED IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
10:46:48 WE'RE SAYING GO WALK AND DO THIS.
10:46:50 YOU BUILT THE STUFF AND NOBODY WANTS TO WALK.
10:46:53 >>JOSH FRANK: I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE BECAUSE I THINK
10:46:55 THE MAJORITY OF GROWTH IN CITIES TODAY ARE IN URBAN CORES.
10:47:00 EVERY CITY CENTER THAT I VISIT AND THAT I'VE EVER BEEN --
10:47:04 HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH OR WORKING ON, HAS SEEN
10:47:07 TREMENDOUS GROWTH.
10:47:09 YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK ANY FURTHER THAN OUR OWN DOWNTOWN,
10:47:11 DOWNTOWN FOR EVERY CITY FROM NEW PORT RICHEY TO LAKELAND IS
10:47:15 HAVING A RENAISSANCE BECAUSE I THINK THE RETURN TO BEING
10:47:20 ABLE TO TALK WITH A CORNER GROCER OR BEING ABLE TO WALK TO A
10:47:25 BAR OR BREWERY YOU ARE A BIG FAN OF AND MEET YOUR FRIENDS
10:47:28 FOR A GAME, IT IS COMING BACK.
10:47:30 IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT ACROSS THE LARGER SPAN OF
10:47:33 HUMANITY, CITIES HAVE ALWAYS PROVIDED AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
10:47:38 POPULAR.
10:47:39 IT MAY COME AND GO IN 50 YEARS' TIME, BUT THE LARGER
10:47:42 PICTURE, CITIES ARE VIBRANT PLACES THAT SUPPORT DIVERSITY,
10:47:46 SUPPORT MOBILITY, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY, AND IT'S
10:47:51 SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS UNIVERSAL AMONGST HUMANS IS THAT
10:47:55 WE LIKE TO BE TOGETHER AND LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS ALL
10:47:59 THOSE THINGS.
10:48:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, THOSE
10:48:04 NEIGHBORHOODS, EXACTLY WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, HAD TO WALK,
10:48:07 ONLY HAD TO WALK ONE BLOCK, YOU HAD A SMALL GROCERY STORE IN
10:48:10 EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:48:11 >>JOSH FRANK: OR SCHOOL.
10:48:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT HAPPENED, WHEN THE BIG BOYS CAME IN,
10:48:15 THE BIG-BOX STORES CAME IN, YOU WENT TO SEE SOMETHING NEW,
10:48:18 AND YOU LIKED IT.
10:48:19 AND YOU HAD A CASHIER AND CREDIT CARD.
10:48:21 LITTLE PENCIL, PAY ME AT THE END OF THE WEEK.
10:48:26 AND THAT'S HOW SOCIETY HAS CHANGED.
10:48:27 SO THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALK ABOUT WORK AND DON'T WORK
10:48:31 BECAUSE SOCIETY HAS CHANGED MIND-SET-WISE.
10:48:34 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:34 APPRECIATE IT.
10:48:39 >>BILL CARLSON: QUICKLY.
10:48:40 YOU MENTIONED THAT THE MPO SUPPORTED STUDYING THIS MORE.
10:48:43 IS THE MPO STUDYING IT OR DOT STUDYING IT?
10:48:46 >>JOSH FRANK: MPO IS STUDYING IT.
10:48:49 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN IS THAT COMING BACK?
10:48:51 >>JOSH FRANK: YOU HAVE TO ASK THEM THAT IN THE TIME FRAME.
10:48:53 I BELIEVE THEY HAD A SCOPE-WRITING SESSION WITH A CONSULTANT
10:48:56 AND ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT A BID AT SOME POINT IN THE
10:48:59 NEAR FUTURE.
10:49:00 I THINK THEY MAY HAVE PUSHED THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE
10:49:03 OF THEIR GENERAL PLANNING CONSULTANT PROCESS THAT THEY ARE
10:49:05 GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, SELECTION PROCESS.
10:49:07 OUTSIDE OF THAT I BELIEVE SOMETIME THIS FISCAL YEAR.
10:49:10 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BRIEF US
10:49:12 AND PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ON WHAT THE MPO SAYS.
10:49:18 >>JOSH FRANK: I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANYBODY INDIVIDUALLY
10:49:20 AND TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
10:49:21 IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED SUBJECT, AND IT IS A GREAT DEBATE.
10:49:24 I APPRECIATE IT.
10:49:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
10:49:27 PRESENTATION.
10:49:27 I ALWAYS SAY THAT I'M PROUD THAT I'VE ALWAYS VOTED AGAINST
10:49:30 TBX AND TB NEXT, AND ANY OTHER NAME CHANGE THAT THEY PUT
10:49:35 BECAUSE IT'S FOOLISHNESS.
10:49:36 YOU'RE BUILDING, BUT YOU'RE BUILDING BACKWARDS.
10:49:39 BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, AND YOU STUDIED IT BETTER THAN
10:49:42 ANYBODY ELSE, HOW THE INTERSTATE AND URBAN RENEWAL AND
10:49:45 EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SO AGGRESSIVE.
10:49:46 YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE OF HOW MUCH LAND WAS CLEARED AND HOW
10:49:49 MANY BUILDINGS AND HOMES WERE LOST TO BRING THIS INTERSTATE
10:49:52 FOR.
10:49:53 NOW YOU LOOK AT IT AND IT'S ALWAYS CONGESTION AND TOO MUCH
10:49:56 TRAFFIC AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO FIX IT, BUT I LOOK
10:49:58 AT IT AS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE, WHAT ABOUT THEIR
10:50:01 EXPOSURE TO ANY OTHER ILLNESSES, ANY KIND OF INCREASE IN
10:50:05 CANCER.
10:50:06 BECAUSE THE CARS AREN'T MOVING FREELY AT ALL TIMES.
10:50:08 WHEN THEY ARE SITTING THERE STAGNANT, THEY ARE CONSTANTLY
10:50:11 DUMPING -- THE EXHAUST IS DUMPING OUT INTO THAT ENVIRONMENT,
10:50:14 AND THEY ARE NEARBY, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE BREATHING AND
10:50:16 THEIR CHILDREN ARE BREATHING.
10:50:19 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF THE INTERSTATE
10:50:22 THROUGH EISENHOWER, THROUGH THE EISENHOWER INTERSTATE SYSTEM
10:50:26 AND ITS ORIGINAL PURPOSE, THAT'S FINE FOR THE 1950s.
10:50:29 PULLING UP THE STREETCAR, THE MANUFACTURERS FOR THE
10:50:31 AUTOMOBILES AND THE TIRES SAYING WHY GET STUCK WITH AN
10:50:34 OUTDATED TROLLEY OR STREETCAR WHEN YOU CAN HAVE THE FREEDOM
10:50:37 OF THE AUTOMOBILE AND TAKE THE GREAT AMERICAN ROAD TRIP.
10:50:39 YOU KNOW, FREEDOM WITH YOUR FAMILY.
10:50:41 NOW WE'RE GOING FULL CIRCLE BACK TO WHY DO WE NEED SO MUCH
10:50:45 FOCUS ON THE AUTOMOBILE WHEN WE WANT OTHER OPTIONS?
10:50:47 SO THE BOULEVARD CONCEPT IS NOT CRAZY.
10:50:51 I THINK IT'S EXCITING.
10:50:53 IT'S SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT, AND YOU BACK IT UP WITH
10:50:56 HOW IT CAN WORK BECAUSE PEOPLE FIGURE, WITH ALL THOSE CARS,
10:50:59 WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THEM?
10:51:01 LOOK AT THE CAPACITY USAGE OF TAMPA STREET OR FLORIDA AVENUE
10:51:05 GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.
10:51:06 I DON'T USE THE INTERSTATE.
10:51:07 I TRY TO AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS HERE, BECAUSE I'LL TAKE TAMPA
10:51:11 STREET INTO DOWNTOWN AND MAKE IT WITHIN 12 TO 15 MINUTES
10:51:14 DURING THE MORNING RUSH, UNLESS I HIT ALL RED LIGHTS.
10:51:17 YOU SEE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS.
10:51:21 YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS NOT BEING DALE MABRY,
10:51:24 BUT NEBRASKA, FLORIDA, TAMPA STREET, WHATEVER IT IS THAT
10:51:27 HELP PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT.
10:51:28 >>JOSH FRANK: 50th, 56th.
10:51:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 22nd ANOTHER ONE.
10:51:33 15th.
10:51:33 MY ESCAPE ROUTE FROM YBOR CITY BACK TO MLK IS 15th.
10:51:38 THERE'S NEVER ANY TRAFFIC.
10:51:39 I THINK THIS COULD WORK.
10:51:42 IT'S WORKED IN OTHER CITIES.
10:51:44 I THINK OF PLACES LIKE PARIS AND THE CHAMPS ELYSEES AND
10:51:50 WHATNOT.
10:51:50 YOU'VE SHOWN OTHER PLACES HERE IN THE UNITED STATES WHERE
10:51:52 THE INTERSTATE HAS COME DOWN, AND IT IS FUNCTIONAL.
10:51:55 THEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE REAL ESTATE VALUES, THE VALUES FOR
10:51:58 THE HOMES THAT ARE AROUND THAT AREA AND WHATNOT.
10:51:59 BUT WHEN YOU SEE A PHOTO LIKE THIS, THIS AERIAL SHOT THAT
10:52:02 I'M LOOKING AT OF THE JUNCTION THAT MALFUNCTIONS, IT'S
10:52:06 AMAZING.
10:52:07 THOSE ARE PEOPLE'S LIVES WHERE PEOPLE GREW UP AND HAD
10:52:11 BUSINESSES AND ALL WIPED OUT FOR CONCRETE.
10:52:14 I APPRECIATE THIS.
10:52:15 I'M A BIG FAN.
10:52:16 I'VE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION IN ITS FULL ONE-HOUR LENGTH.
10:52:19 >>JOSH FRANK: I'M CUT.
10:52:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNCUT, UNCENSORED VERSION.
10:52:25 YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELF THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR
10:52:28 US, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
10:52:29 THANK YOU.
10:52:29 >>JOSH FRANK: THANK YOU.
10:52:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:32 ITEM NUMBER 7, AS WE GO INTO THE WORKSHOPS, THERE'S A
10:52:36 REQUEST HERE FROM SAL RUGGIERO OF NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT,
10:52:42 THAT HE REQUEST A CONTINUANCE FOR A DATE BEYOND
10:52:45 FEBRUARY 13th.
10:52:47 ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY MOTIONS?
10:52:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REQUEST AND MOVE TO
10:52:54 MARCH 26th.
10:52:55 THAT SHOULD GIVE HIM AMPLE TIME.
10:52:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THIS
10:53:00 ITEM.
10:53:01 CONTINUE IT TO THE MARCH 26th, WORKSHOP DATE, WE HAVE A
10:53:06 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:53:07 ANY COMMENTS FROM --
10:53:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT TO PUT THAT ON AT 10:30 A.M.?
10:53:13 WE ALREADY HAVE, LET'S SEE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE --
10:53:20 SIX ITEMS I BELIEVE.
10:53:21 DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT 10:30?
10:53:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WOULD BE FINE.
10:53:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR 10:30,
10:53:28 MARCH 26th.
10:53:29 WE HAVE A SECOND NOW FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:53:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:53:33 ALL RIGHT.
10:53:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:34 NOW WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 8.
10:53:36 WE HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HERE REGARDING THE COMMUNITY
10:53:39 BENEFIT ORDINANCE.
10:53:40 REBECCA KERT.
10:53:41 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, REBECCA KERT, ASSISTANT CITY
10:53:43 ATTORNEY.
10:53:44 I AM HERE ON ITEM 8, WHICH IS A REPORT ON A COMMUNITY
10:53:48 BENEFIT ORDINANCE.
10:53:49 I PREVIOUSLY SUPPLIED YOU WITH A MEMORANDUM.
10:53:50 I THINK I MET WITH ALL OF YOU AS WELL, BUT I'D STILL LIKE TO
10:53:53 GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
10:53:55 THIS MOTION HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, AND IT'S MORPHED A
10:53:59 LITTLE BIT.
10:53:59 BUT THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH I WENT BACK AND PULLED, WAS
10:54:02 FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO RESEARCH AND PREPARE A REPORT ON
10:54:05 THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT ORDINANCE SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN
10:54:08 LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE
10:54:11 CITY.
10:54:11 SO I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT COMMUNITY
10:54:14 BENEFIT AGREEMENTS WERE HISTORICALLY.
10:54:16 HISTORICALLY, THEY WERE PRIVATE, PRIVATE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN
10:54:20 COMMUNITY GROUPS AND DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY WERE COMING INTO
10:54:23 MAJOR -- COMING IN WITH MAJOR PROJECTS, MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS.
10:54:27 THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS, PARTICULARLY GOING INTO LOW-INCOME
10:54:32 NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE FEELING THAT THEY
10:54:34 WERE THE MOST IMPACTED AND NOT RECEIVING ANY OF THE BENEFITS
10:54:37 OF THE AGREEMENT.
10:54:38 THESE ORIGINALLY HAPPENED FIRST IN CALIFORNIA WHEN THE
10:54:41 STUDIOS WERE EXPANDING.
10:54:44 ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT CAME INTO EFFECT WAS THE
10:54:47 DREAMWORKS STUDIO PROPOSAL.
10:54:50 WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT SITUATION IS THERE WERE MULTIPLE
10:54:52 NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS WHO WERE TRYING TO HAVE THEIR VOICES
10:54:56 HEARD.
10:54:57 BUT WHEN THEY FINALLY GROUPED TOGETHER IN LOS ANGELES UNDER
10:54:59 ONE UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION, THEY WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE
10:55:02 DIRECTLY WITH THE DREAM WORKS STUDIO FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO
10:55:06 ADDRESS THE IMPACTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:55:08 DREAMWORKS STUDIO NEVER ENDED UP BUILT BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:55:11 STILL ENDED UP WITH A $5 MILLION JOB TRAINING FACILITY.
10:55:14 THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE IN HOLLYWOOD AFTER THAT, A MASSIVE
10:55:16 THEATER AND RETAIL SPACE, 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET, AND THE
10:55:20 NEIGHBORHOOD HAD CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL
10:55:22 CONCERNS, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU
10:55:24 HEAR ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE A MAJOR NEW REDEVELOPMENT GOING
10:55:28 INTO A COMMUNITY.
10:55:30 AND THEY WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AGREEMENTS TO HIRE LOCALLY
10:55:33 AND PAY LIVING WAGES.
10:55:34 AFTER THE SUCCESS IN CALIFORNIA, IT SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE
10:55:38 COUNTRY.
10:55:38 SOME OF THOSE WERE NOT AS SUCCESSFUL.
10:55:41 THERE WERE ONES IN NEW YORK, IN BROOKLYN AND BRONX.
10:55:44 I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS
10:55:46 THAT CAME OUT OF SOME OF THESE OTHERS WHICH WERE NOT
10:55:49 PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE IS NUMBER ONE, THERE WAS NOT A GOOD
10:55:51 ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.
10:55:52 SO THESE PROMISES WERE MADE, AND IF THEY WERE NOT FULFILLED,
10:55:56 THERE WAS NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD MECHANISM TO ENFORCE THOSE.
10:55:59 THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS HAD IS SOMETIMES YOU WOULD HAVE
10:56:02 ONE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP WHO WAS SPEAKING THE LOUDEST,
10:56:05 NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF IT, AND BECAUSE THERE WAS NO
10:56:09 GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT, THERE WAS A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND
10:56:11 OTHER PEOPLE IN THE IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS FELT LEFT OUT OF
10:56:14 THE PROCESS.
10:56:15 SOME OF THOSE WERE EVENTUALLY ENACTED INTO DEVELOPMENT
10:56:25 AGREEMENTS WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE
10:56:27 ONE DISTINCTION HERE, BECAUSE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
10:56:30 BASICALLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT
10:56:32 TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
10:56:33 THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT I TYPICALLY BRING TO
10:56:37 YOU ARE ENTITLEMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
10:56:38 LIKE YOU SAW FOR SAY THE MIDTOWN DEVELOPMENT.
10:56:41 THE MIDTOWN DEVELOPMENT, THAT WAS NOT A PUBLIC-PRIVATE
10:56:44 PARTNERSHIP, PER SE, WHERE THE CITY WASN'T DONATING THE
10:56:47 LAND.
10:56:47 THAT WAS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
10:56:48 AND WITH THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WE ARE JUST
10:56:51 ESTABLISHING WHAT THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE.
10:56:53 WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM ANYTHING.
10:56:55 IT'S A STATUTORY PROCESS.
10:56:56 WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WAIVE THINGS.
10:56:58 NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE THEM ANYTHING THROUGH THAT PROJECT.
10:57:01 IT'S BASICALLY ESTABLISHING IN ADVANCE OF THE PROJECT WHAT
10:57:03 EVERYONE'S EXPECTATIONS ARE.
10:57:04 WE AGREE THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THIS MUCH DEVELOPMENT.
10:57:07 WE AGREE THAT IF THEY MITIGATE IN THESE WAYS, THAT WILL MEET
10:57:10 OUR MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS.
10:57:11 THE OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU SEE
10:57:14 OFTENTIMES WHEN THE CRA IS INVOLVED, IS WHEN IT IS A
10:57:17 PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
10:57:18 AND THERE IS SOME SORT OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THIS
10:57:20 REDEVELOPMENT.
10:57:21 IN 2016, THE CITY OF DETROIT PASSED A REFERENDUM THAT
10:57:29 REQUIRED -- IT WAS CALLED A COMMUNITY BENEFIT ORDINANCE.
10:57:31 AND IT BASICALLY REQUIRED A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT OR A
10:57:37 PROCESS TO REACH A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
10:57:39 IT APPLIES WHEN THERE WAS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
10:57:42 THERE WERE DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS THAT YOU HIT.
10:57:44 ONE WAS IF THERE WAS A 300,000 CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY
10:57:48 AND IT WAS A $3 MILLION INVESTMENT BY THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER,
10:57:52 THERE WAS SOME LEVEL OF NOTICE AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEN
10:57:56 THERE WAS A SECOND TIER FOR IF THERE WAS A MILLION-DOLLAR
10:57:59 CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY OF DETROIT, AND IT WAS A
10:58:03 $75 MILLION PROJECT INVESTMENT.
10:58:04 I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS.
10:58:06 BUT IN SHORT, WHEN IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MAJOR PROJECTS, WHAT
10:58:10 WOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THERE WOULD BE ANYTHING GIVEN BY THE
10:58:12 CITY OR ANY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY THE CITY WHERE
10:58:16 THEY WERE GIVING TAX INCENTIVES OR LAND, THERE WAS A PROCESS
10:58:20 THAT HAD TO BE GONE THROUGH WHERE THE IMPACTED AREA WAS
10:58:23 IDENTIFIED.
10:58:24 THERE WERE PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD OUT THERE.
10:58:26 THE COMMUNITY NOMINATES CERTAIN PARTICULAR PEOPLE TO BE ON A
10:58:30 COMMITTEE THAT WOULD NEGOTIATE SOME COMMUNITY BENEFIT
10:58:33 AGREEMENTS AND THEN THERE WERE ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS IN
10:58:35 PLACE.
10:58:35 THAT'S A FAIRLY NEW ONE.
10:58:37 I DID NOTE IN MY RESEARCH THAT WHILE IT DOES SEEM THAT THERE
10:58:42 HAVE BEEN SOME SUCCESSFUL AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF
10:58:45 THAT ORDINANCE PROCESS, THERE ARE STILL PRIVATE ONES BEING
10:58:48 NEGOTIATED.
10:58:49 IN 2019, THERE WAS A PRIVATELY NEGOTIATED ONE.
10:58:52 NOBODY REALLY KNOWS THE TERMS OF IT BECAUSE THE CITY WASN'T
10:58:54 INVOLVED, BUT THE COMMUNITY STILL FELT THAT THERE WAS A
10:58:56 BENEFIT TO PURSUE THAT IN CERTAIN TIMES.
10:58:59 WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR HOW THIS TOOL COULD BE UTILIZED IN
10:59:04 THE CITY OF TAMPA?
10:59:05 AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT
10:59:07 AGREEMENTS.
10:59:07 IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE TO REQUIRE NEGOTIATIONS THROUGH
10:59:11 THE ENTITLEMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
10:59:14 AGAIN, THOSE AREN'T NEGOTIATED.
10:59:16 THOSE ARE AGREEMENTS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ENTITLED
10:59:18 TO.
10:59:19 BUT WHEN THE CITY IS, IN FACT, ENTERING INTO A
10:59:21 PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, THIS SORT OF CONCEPT IS
10:59:25 SOMETHING THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.
10:59:27 AND IN PARTICULAR IN THE CITY, CONTRACTS UNDER THE CHARTER
10:59:31 ARE NEGOTIATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:59:32 HOWEVER, WHEN THE CRA IS INVOLVED, THAT IS CERTAINLY AN AREA
10:59:37 WHERE THE CRA, WHEN CITY COUNCIL IS SITTING AS THE CRA COULD
10:59:40 ESTABLISH SOME COMMUNITY BENEFIT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.
10:59:45 THE DETAILS WOULD NEED TO BE WORKED OUT AS YOU'RE SITTING ON
10:59:49 THE CRA, BUT CERTAINLY THAT IS -- THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE
10:59:52 MECHANISM FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IF YOU DID THINK THAT
10:59:55 THESE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENTS WERE SOMETHING THAT YOU
10:59:58 WANTED TO PURSUE.
10:59:59 I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:00:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:00:03 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:00:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. KERT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
11:00:06 I ALWAYS SAY DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN -- YOU CAME BACK
11:00:12 WITH THINGS WE CAN DO.
11:00:13 I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS FOR WORKING ON THAT.
11:00:16 I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN UTILIZE WITH THE CRAs IN MY
11:00:21 DISTRICT.
11:00:22 PEOPLE SAYING WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT.
11:00:23 WHAT ARE WE GETTING BACK.
11:00:24 THE CITY IS GIVING THINGS, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET
11:00:27 SOMETHING BACK IN RETURN.
11:00:28 MR. SHELBY, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL CAN ASK THIS TO BE SENT
11:00:33 TO THE CRA.
11:00:34 OR MOTION FROM CRA FOR MS. KERT TO COME.
11:00:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE MS. ZELMAN HERE.
11:00:39 PROCEDURE FOR SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE
11:00:42 PLACED ON A CRA CALENDAR, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS
11:00:47 THE APPROPRIATE THING.
11:00:48 WOULD A MOTION OF COUNCIL THEN BE TO REFER THIS TO CRA TO BE
11:00:52 PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
11:00:54 WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE?
11:00:56 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I CERTAINLY THINK THAT YOU COULD MAKE A
11:00:58 MOTION TO PLACE THIS DISCUSSION OR PLACE THE QUESTION, IF
11:01:02 YOU HAVE ONE, ON A CRA AGENDA.
11:01:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:01:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GUDES, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE
11:01:10 YOU MAKE THIS MOTION AND DEFER IT TO CRA.
11:01:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:01:17 GUDES.
11:01:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOING BACK IN HISTORY, WHAT YOU'RE
11:01:21 TALKING ABOUT IS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IF
11:01:25 SOMEONE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, CREATING MORE TRAFFIC OR
11:01:28 SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
11:01:29 GOING BACK IN HISTORY, I REMEMBER, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE
11:01:32 BEEN THE FIRST ONE ON THE CORNER OF ARMENIA AND OSBORNE.
11:01:36 THERE WAS A BANK THAT WAS WAY BACK IN THE LATE '70s, I
11:01:40 THINK IT WAS, CALLED THE PEOPLES BANK THAT WANTED TO OPEN
11:01:44 UP.
11:01:44 ONE OF THE CAVEATS THAT WE NEEDED WAS FOR THEM TO
11:01:48 PARTICIPATE IN THE INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC LIGHT, WHICH IS
11:01:51 STILL THERE AT THE CORNER OF ARMENIA AND OSBORNE.
11:01:54 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN REFERENCE?
11:01:56 >>REBECCA KERT: IT COULD BE, CHAIRMAN MIRANDA.
11:02:00 EVEN IN YOUR ENTITLEMENT AGREEMENTS, IF THERE IS A DIRECT
11:02:04 EFFECT, LIKE THE BANK, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS CREATING THE NEED
11:02:06 FOR THE NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT, YOU COULD DO THAT THROUGH THAT
11:02:12 PROCESS.
11:02:12 BUT THIS IS SOMETHING A STEP BEYOND THAT.
11:02:16 WHEN THERE ARE EFFECTS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT QUANTIFIABLE
11:02:20 THROUGH YOUR CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS, AND
11:02:23 IT'S A STEP BEYOND THAT TO CONSIDER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
11:02:25 AREN'T NECESSARILY LAND USE RELATED LIKE TRAFFIC IMPACTS
11:02:28 THAT CAN BE TRAFFIC IMPACTS BUT IT CAN ALSO BE -- I DON'T
11:02:32 WANT TO GET INTO TOO MANY DETAILS ABOUT WHAT YOU MAY BE ABLE
11:02:35 TO DO, BUT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS THEY HAVE DONE HIRING
11:02:39 PREFERENCES, JOB TRAINING REQUIREMENTS, THINGS THAT YOU
11:02:41 COULD NOT DO THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.
11:02:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.
11:02:46 I THINK IT WAS $7,500 AT THAT TIME.
11:02:49 YOU CAN CHECK THE RECORD.
11:02:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:02:53 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:02:57 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:02:58 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:02:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:03:00 ALL RIGHT.
11:03:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. KERT.
11:03:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:03:09 ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO DISCUSS THIS COMMUNITY
11:03:12 BENEFIT ORDINANCE?
11:03:13 SEEING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:17 MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER 9.
11:03:22 WE'RE AT 11:03, SO WE'RE GOOD.
11:03:25 THIS IS THE WORKSHOP FOR THE BANNING OF SINGLE-USE PLASTIC
11:03:32 BAGS, STYROFOAM CONTAINERS, ET CETERA, ON CITY PARKS OR
11:03:37 VENUES.
11:03:38 SIMILAR TO ENACTED BY THE CITY OF ORLANDO.
11:03:40 WE HAVE OUR ATTORNEY HERE, JAN McLEAN, TO DISCUSS THIS.
11:03:43 >>JAN McLEAN: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL
11:03:45 MEMBERS.
11:03:46 THE MOTION AS WAS STATED ON THE AGENDA IS THAT CITY COUNCIL
11:03:52 WANTED TO DISCUSS AND THEN I WOULD BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY
11:03:55 QUESTIONS.
11:03:56 I SUBMITTED A REPORT THAT GAVE YOU THE STATUS OF THE LAW AT
11:04:01 THIS POINT IN TIME.
11:04:03 I'D BE GLAD TO SUMMARIZE THAT FOR YOU, IF THAT WOULD BE
11:04:07 HELPFUL IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS.
11:04:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU COULD.
11:04:09 WE TALKED ABOUT PREEMPTION ALL THE TIME AND TALLAHASSEE
11:04:12 DICTATING TO US.
11:04:13 I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THOSE LEGAL
11:04:16 BOUNDARIES WHERE NOT EVEN TO BE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE, WHERE IT
11:04:20 WOULDN'T TRIGGER ANY KIND OF LITIGATION.
11:04:23 THAT'S WHY IT'S SPECIFIC TO CITY PARKS AND PROPERTIES.
11:04:26 >>JAN McLEAN: WE ARE SQUARELY WITHIN THAT PREEMPTION AREA.
11:04:30 AS I MENTIONED WITHIN OUR -- WITHIN THE REPORT THAT I
11:04:33 SUBMITTED TO YOU, THERE ARE THREE STATUTES THAT OVERLAY THE
11:04:37 PREEMPTION OF THE REGULATION OF THE USE OF POLYSTYRENE
11:04:43 PRODUCTS.
11:04:43 THE PRIMARY ONE IS CHAPTER 500, SECTION 90, WHICH PREEMPTS
11:04:51 THE REGULATION TO THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT OF
11:04:53 AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES.
11:04:57 BUT IT GOES ON TO SAY, AND THIS IS ON THE FIRST PAGE OF YOUR
11:05:00 REPORT, IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE PREEMPTION DOES NOT APPLY
11:05:02 TO LOCAL ORDINANCES OR PROVISIONS THEREOF ENACTED BEFORE
11:05:07 JANUARY 1st, 2016.
11:05:09 IF A LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAD ALREADY ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE
11:05:12 REGULATING THE USE OR DISTRIBUTION OF THESE PRODUCTS, THEN
11:05:16 THAT WOULD STAND.
11:05:17 THAT WOULD NOT BE PREEMPTED.
11:05:19 THERE IS AN ARGUMENT AS TO WHETHER IF YOU AMENDED THAT
11:05:21 ORDINANCE, WHETHER THOSE AMENDMENTS WOULD BE PREEMPTED
11:05:25 SIMILAR TO WHAT WE EXPERIENCED WITH THE FERTILIZER
11:05:28 ORDINANCES.
11:05:29 IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT IT DOES NOT LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF
11:05:32 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO RESTRICT THE USE OF POLYSTYRENE BY
11:05:35 INDIVIDUALS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
11:05:37 TEMPORARY VENDORS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR ENTITIES ENGAGED IN
11:05:43 CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE
11:05:45 PROVISION OF GOODS OR SERVICES UNLESS IT'S OTHERWISE
11:05:48 PREEMPTED BY LAW.
11:05:49 IT KIND OF CIRCLES BACK AROUND.
11:05:51 I SPOKE WITH MR. CHRIS CASTRO WITH THE CITY OF ORLANDO
11:05:55 YESTERDAY, AND HE WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
11:05:57 HE'S THEIR RESILIENCY OFFICER OVER THERE.
11:06:01 HE PUT TOGETHER THEIR PROGRAM AT THE DIRECTION OF THEIR
11:06:06 MAYOR.
11:06:07 IT IS RESTRICTED TO CITY PROPERTY.
11:06:10 SO THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT PREEMPTION CONCERN.
11:06:16 WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY HAVE ADOPTED A POLICY IN
11:06:21 CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR ORDINANCE, WHICH THEY HAVE A
11:06:24 SUSTAINABILITY ORDINANCE.
11:06:25 IT'S NOT FOCUSED, AND IT'S NOT IMPLEMENTED AS AN ORDINANCE.
11:06:29 IT'S IMPLEMENTED ADMINISTRATIVELY ON THE PUBLIC PROPERTY,
11:06:34 WHICH AT THIS POINT, YOU COULD DO, BUT LET ME CONTINUE ON.
11:06:39 WITHIN THE LEGISLATURE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE ARE TWO
11:06:42 BILLS THAT ARE NOT MOVING.
11:06:45 THEY'VE BEEN FILED, ONE IN THE SENATE, ONE IN THE HOUSE,
11:06:48 THAT WOULD REPEAL THE PREEMPTION.
11:06:51 SO A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
11:06:53 HOWEVER, LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE BEEN REFERRED EACH TO THREE
11:06:57 COMMITTEES, WHICH IS NOT ABNORMAL, BUT THEY ARE NOT MOVING
11:07:00 IN CALENDARING TO HEAR THOSE BILLS.
11:07:02 I SPOKE WITH A LOBBYIST FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES THIS
11:07:06 MORNING.
11:07:07 SHE DOESN'T ANTICIPATE, OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE LOOKING
11:07:10 INTO THE FUTURE, BUT SHE DOESN'T ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WOULD
11:07:13 BE MUCH MOVEMENT EXPECTED FROM THOSE TWO BILLS, THE LOBBYING
11:07:17 FROM I BELIEVE IT IS THE FEDERATION OF RETAIL ASSOCIATES, IS
11:07:25 VERY HEAVY IN MAKING SURE THOSE BILLS DON'T GO FORWARD.
11:07:28 THERE'S ALSO A COURT CASE FROM THE CITY OF CORAL GABLES,
11:07:31 WHICH THEY ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE RESTRICTING CITYWIDE.
11:07:36 AND IT WAS CHALLENGED, AND HAS GONE UP TO AT THIS POINT IN
11:07:43 TIME, A WRIT OF CERT HAS BEEN FILED AT THE SUPREME COURT TO
11:07:48 HEAR IT ON THE CONSTITUTIONALITY AND THE PREEMPTION.
11:07:53 THE BRIEFS HAVE BEEN FILED.
11:07:54 NOTHING CALENDARED.
11:07:57 NO INDICATION IF THEY'LL TAKE IT UP AND MAKE A DECISION.
11:08:00 ALL OF THAT SAID THAT PUTS YOU IN THE POSITION OF BEING
11:08:05 RESTRICTED FROM THE REGULATION AND USE OF THE POLYSTYRENE
11:08:11 PRODUCTS TO ONLY CITY PROPERTY.
11:08:16 WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION AT THE END OF THE REPORT WAS AT THIS
11:08:20 POINT IN TIME, GIVEN THAT YOU'VE GOT A COURT CASE OUT THERE,
11:08:23 GIVEN THAT YOU'VE GOT TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, ALTHOUGH
11:08:26 THEY MIGHT NOT LOOK POSITIVELY ON HOW THEY WOULD COME OUT
11:08:30 FOR CITY AUTHORITY, IT'S STILL TWO VARIABLES THAT YOU MIGHT
11:08:34 WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU START TO MOVE
11:08:37 FORWARD ON IMPLEMENTING ANY KIND OF RESTRICTION.
11:08:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IF I WANTED TO PROPOSE A BAN ON
11:08:44 SINGLE-USE PLASTICS AT, FOR EXAMPLE, AN EVENT AT CURTIS
11:08:47 HIXON PARK, A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, I WOULD RUN INTO LEGAL
11:08:52 ISSUES -- OR YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS
11:08:56 WITH WHAT'S UP IN THE AIR NOW?
11:08:58 >>JAN McLEAN: YES.
11:08:59 TWO THINGS, YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
11:09:01 YES, MY RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR SECOND PART IS TO WAIT.
11:09:04 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD IN WORKING
11:09:10 WITH THE ADMINISTRATION IN COMING UP WITH A PROGRAM THAT
11:09:14 MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.
11:09:16 BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE PREEMPTION, UNLESS IT'S REPEALED BY
11:09:20 LEGISLATION, WILL LIMIT YOU TO THE REGULATION OF ON CITY
11:09:23 PROPERTY.
11:09:23 SO THEREFORE IT WOULDN'T BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGH AN
11:09:28 ORDINANCE.
11:09:28 IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGH ANOTHER METHODOLOGY
11:09:31 ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:09:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY GOAL WAS TO FOCUS ON CITY PROPERTIES.
11:09:36 AT LEAST WE CAN START THERE.
11:09:38 WE'RE NOT THROWING OURSELVES FOR A LEGAL MESS.
11:09:41 BUT LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS, AS WE GET
11:09:46 A WALGREENS OR A CVS, WE TELL FOLKS NOT TO PUT THEM IN THE
11:09:49 RECYCLING BIN BECAUSE WHEN YOU TAKE THEM TO THE RECYCLING
11:09:52 PLANT IT JAMS UP OUR MACHINES.
11:09:54 SO NOW IT'S CREATING A HAZARD AND ADDITIONAL COST TO US.
11:09:58 WOULDN'T THE STATE OR A COURT LOOK AT IT AND SAY -- I MEAN,
11:10:01 THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION, BUT THESE ARE CAUSING SERIOUS HARM TO
11:10:05 THE MACHINE.
11:10:06 THEY ARE CAUSING A HIGHER COST BECAUSE THEY ARE JAMMING UP
11:10:08 THE MACHINE.
11:10:09 STUFF LIKE THAT.
11:10:10 IT'S SO SIMPLE.
11:10:11 OR STYROFOAM AND SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS LIVE FOREVER IN THE
11:10:16 ENVIRONMENT.
11:10:17 STYROFOAM DOESN'T BREAK DOWN FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
11:10:19 CAN'T THEY LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT?
11:10:20 JUST TALKING OUT OF THE BOX HERE, BUT, YEAH, MY GOAL IS TO
11:10:26 START WITH CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES WHICH WE HAVE SO MANY
11:10:29 EVENTS AT CURTIS HIXON.
11:10:31 SO MANY AT RIVERFRONT JULIAN LANE PARK ACROSS THE STREET,
11:10:35 WHERE WE'RE PROTECTED FROM ANY KIND OF LITIGATION BECAUSE
11:10:37 IT'S SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC AND SPECIFICALLY CITY OR EITHER
11:10:40 WAY, IT COULD LEAD TO A LEGAL BATTLE SOMEHOW, RIGHT?
11:10:44 >>JAN McLEAN: WELL, THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP WITH THE CITY
11:10:49 OF ORLANDO, LIKE I SAID, MR. CASTRO WAS HELPFUL, THEY
11:10:52 RESTRICT THE USE OF ALL THREE OF THE PRODUCTS, WHICH IS
11:10:55 PLASTIC BAGS, EXPANDED POLYSTYRENE AND THE STRAWS, WHICH HE
11:10:59 DID AN EXTENSIVE EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAM BEFORE HE BROUGHT
11:11:07 IT FORWARD.
11:11:08 SO I'VE GOT SOME OF THE MATERIALS, WHICH I WAS ONLY ABLE TO
11:11:12 RECEIVE YESTERDAY, BUT THEY WERE SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE HE
11:11:16 HAD DONE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WHICH WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO,
11:11:19 A SURVEY OF THE JURISDICTIONS AND WHAT THEY HAD PROPOSED TO
11:11:22 ADOPT OR WHAT THEY HAD ADOPTED.
11:11:27 THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF JURISDICTIONS -- THERE'S A
11:11:30 SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF JURISDICTIONS THAT ADOPTED SOMETHING.
11:11:32 AND THROUGH AN ORDINANCE.
11:11:34 WHETHER THEY ARE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING IT OR ENFORCING IT,
11:11:38 THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
11:11:39 CORAL GABLES WAS THE FIRST ONE OUT OF THE BOX AFTER THE
11:11:43 PREEMPTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATURE, AND I BELIEVE
11:11:47 THAT THAT IS THE BASIS OF WHY IT WAS CHALLENGED IN COURT TO
11:11:51 SET THE LINE.
11:11:53 AND SO THE REST OF THE JURISDICTIONS ARE PROBABLY DOING THE
11:11:56 SAME THING THAT I'M RECOMMENDING TO YOU TO DO RIGHT NOW IS
11:11:59 TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THAT COURT CASE PLAYS OUT, TO SEE IF WE
11:12:04 WOULD HAVE ANY MORE.
11:12:07 YES, BACK TO YOUR QUESTION AS FAR AS ADOPTING A POLICY TO
11:12:12 ADMINISTRATIVELY IMPLEMENT IT ON CITY PROPERTY, WE COULD
11:12:15 MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
11:12:17 WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN ORLANDO IS THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION
11:12:21 PROCESS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EVENT ON CITY
11:12:25 PROPERTY, YOU SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION.
11:12:27 THERE ARE ALL THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO
11:12:30 ANSWER, AND IN ADDITION NOW, THEY HAVE THE GREENSPACE, AND
11:12:35 SO MR. CASTRO'S GROUP ALSO REVIEWS THAT APPLICATION, ASKS
11:12:43 DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, AND ASKED THEM TO COMPLETE A SURVEY SO
11:12:46 THAT HE WOULD HAVE THE INFORMATION OF WHAT IS INTENDED TO BE
11:12:49 DONE, WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF
11:12:53 WHAT THEY CAN'T USE.
11:12:54 BUT HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO HOLD UP THAT PERMIT.
11:12:57 BUT THE INFORMATION IS GETTING OUT THERE.
11:12:59 HE SAID APPROXIMATELY 80%, HE GETS THOSE SURVEYS BACK FROM
11:13:04 THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE GOING TO USE THE PUBLIC PROPERTY.
11:13:08 SO THERE IS -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT'S GOING
11:13:12 ON OVER THERE, BUT HE'S SEEING SOME PROGRESS MOVING FORWARD.
11:13:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:13:19 COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:13:21 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:13:23 IS IT LEGAL TO HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DRAFT THIS
11:13:29 ORDINANCE AND PASS IT JUST ON FIRST READING AND HOLD SECOND
11:13:33 READING INDEFINITELY UNTIL THIS LAWSUIT IS SETTLED?
11:13:36 >>JAN McLEAN: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
11:13:40 BECAUSE YOU WOULD NOT BE IMPLEMENTING THESE RESTRICTIONS
11:13:45 CITYWIDE, IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:13:49 SO THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE TO SET FORWARD A PROGRAM
11:13:54 AND MUCH LIKE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ORLANDO HAS DONE IS
11:14:00 ESTABLISH A POLICY THAT'S RELATED TO AN ORDINANCE, AND THEN
11:14:05 IMPLEMENT IT THAT WAY.
11:14:06 HERE'S THE DISTINCTION THAT I JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT THIS
11:14:09 MORNING ON HOW THEY OPERATE OVER THERE.
11:14:12 WHAT I'M TOLD IS THE MAYOR SITS WITH THE COUNCIL, AND
11:14:15 THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON THE POLICY.
11:14:18 AND SO THE POLICY WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE MAYOR AND THE
11:14:23 COUNCIL AS TO BE IMPLEMENTED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:14:25 BUT IN OUR CASE, ORDINANCES ARE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL
11:14:30 AND POLICIES ARE IMPLEMENTED THROUGH THE MAYOR.
11:14:33 SO WE WOULD NEED TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE ON HOW IT WOULD
11:14:36 ACTUALLY BE IMPLEMENTED.
11:14:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS HERE, HERE
11:14:40 AGAIN IS EVERYTHING THAT'S INVENTED HAS BECOME A FAILURE IN
11:14:44 A WAY.
11:14:44 NOT EVERYTHING.
11:14:45 DON'T GET ME WRONG.
11:14:47 BUT YEARS BACK, EVERYTHING HAD A VALUE TO TAKE BACK TO THE
11:14:50 STORE.
11:14:51 A BOTTLE OF POP, I'LL SAY POP SO I DON'T MENTION OTHER
11:14:55 COCA-COLA AND PEPSI COLA AND OTHERS IN THE WORLD HAD A VALUE
11:14:59 OF FIVE CENTS.
11:15:00 YOU RETURNED IT BACK AND YOU GOT CREDIT FOR FIVE CENTS.
11:15:03 IT CHANGED BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF INVENTIONS OF
11:15:09 PLASTIC BEING QUICKER AND LIGHTER TO CARRY AND THINGS OF
11:15:12 THAT NATURE, AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
11:15:14 WHEN YOU LOOK AT ELECTRIC CARS VERSUS GAS ENGINE CARS,
11:15:18 ELECTRIC CARS WERE HERE IN THE 1900s.
11:15:20 THEY JUST WEREN'T MASS PRODUCED.
11:15:23 WHEN FORD STARTED BUILDING THE CARS, THE ELECTRIC CARS
11:15:27 STOPPED BECAUSE HE WAS BUILDING THE CARS IN MASSES, AND THEY
11:15:30 COULDN'T KEEP UP.
11:15:30 SO THESE ARE THE THINGS, AND NOW WHAT DO WE HAVE?
11:15:32 IN THE NEXT 15, 20 YEARS, I SAY 25% OF ALL CARS, MAYBE
11:15:32 HIGHER, ARE GOING TO BE ALL ELECTRIC, AND TRUCKS ALIKE.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WAS INVENTED IS GOING TO BE REINVENTED
11:15:40 THAT WAS ALREADY INVENTED.
11:15:41 IF THAT DOESN'T SOUND CONFUSING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL
11:15:44 DOES.
11:15:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A POINT THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT
11:15:50 UP, THE SATISFACTION OF ENJOYING A SODA FOR 20 MINUTES
11:15:55 CAUSES HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE OF THAT PLASTIC
11:15:57 BOTTLE IF IT'S NOT RECYCLED FOR HOW LONG OR EATING THAT
11:16:00 20-MINUTE MEAL IN THAT STYROFOAM CONTAINER FOR HOW LONG?
11:16:04 IT'S GOING TO OUTLIVE US ALL.
11:16:05 WHEN WE HAVE ARCHAEOLOGISTS EXCAVATE HISTORIC SITES, THEY
11:16:10 FIND SKELETONS, WHERE HOMES USED TO BE, JEWELRY, POTTERY.
11:16:14 THEY'LL LOOK AT OUR CIVILIZATION AND FIND STYROFOAM AND A
11:16:17 BUNCH OF NONSENSE THAT WE'VE DUMPED OUT INTO THE
11:16:21 ENVIRONMENT, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S --
11:16:21 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:16:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS CURIOUS WHAT ORLANDO IS DOING AS IT
11:16:30 RELATES TO PENALTIES AND ENFORCING IT.
11:16:33 ANY DISCUSSION WITH THEM ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT ALL?
11:16:38 I'M CURIOUS HOW THIS WOULD BE ENFORCED, HOW THIS WOULD BE
11:16:40 IMPLEMENTED?
11:16:42 >>JAN McLEAN: BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ON OUR PROPERTY, FIRST,
11:16:44 THEY WOULD -- THEY HAVE PUT IT INTO THE CONTRACTS FOR ANY OF
11:16:49 THE VENDORS THAT ARE GOING TO OPERATE ON OUR PROPERTY THAT
11:16:53 THEY WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM THE USE OR DISTRIBUTION OF
11:16:55 THESE TYPES OF PRODUCTS.
11:16:59 I DO NOT HAVE A FINE OR A PENALTY KIND OF MATRIX FROM THE
11:17:04 CITY.
11:17:08 IT WOULD BE A BREACH OF THEIR CONTRACT SO THAT WOULD END THE
11:17:11 CONTRACT.
11:17:11 IF YOU ARE ON CITY PROPERTY AND YOU WERE BREACHING THE
11:17:14 AGREEMENT AND YOU VIOLATED YOUR AGREEMENT, POTENTIALLY YOU
11:17:17 COULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE CITY PROPERTY.
11:17:21 THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF
11:17:24 THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP.
11:17:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE WHOEVER IS RENTING
11:17:30 THE FACILITY.
11:17:30 I'M TALKING ABOUT PATRONS COMING TO THAT EVENT.
11:17:33 DOES ORLANDO HAVE SOMETHING, SOME KIND OF ENFORCEMENT
11:17:36 MECHANISM?
11:17:37 SOME TYPE OF PENALTY FOR THOSE PATRONS OR DIDN'T RESEARCH
11:17:40 THAT FAR?
11:17:41 >>JAN McLEAN: YOU'RE NOT REGULATING THE PATRONS.
11:17:43 YOU'RE REGULATING THE USERS OF PUBLIC PROPERTY.
11:17:45 SO IF YOU'RE THE EVENT COORDINATOR AND I HAVE AN APPLICATION
11:17:50 WITH THE CITY OF ORLANDO TO USE A PIECE OF CITY PROPERTY,
11:17:53 THEN THE RELATIONSHIP IS BETWEEN THE VENDOR OR THE EVENT
11:17:57 COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY, NOT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
11:18:00 ATTENDING.
11:18:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:18:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:18:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:18:06 YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY SAD THAT ONCE AGAIN WE'VE GOT A
11:18:10 SITUATION WHERE BIG BUSINESS GOES UP TO TALLAHASSEE AND LIKE
11:18:15 THE RETAIL INDUSTRY, WHICH I THINK WAS VERY MUCH BEHIND THIS
11:18:19 PREEMPTION ORDINANCE, AND THEY GO UP TO TALLAHASSEE AND
11:18:21 EFFECTIVELY THEY BUY THE VOTES.
11:18:23 AND THEY BUY THE VOTES AND THEN THEY PREEMPT OUR ABILITY TO
11:18:28 ADOPT COMMONSENSE LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT, AS MR. MANISCALCO
11:18:35 INDICATES, WILL HAVE SOME REAL POSITIVE, LONG-TERM BENEFITS
11:18:40 FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
11:18:41 SO TALLAHASSEE IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL, AND AS BEING BOUGHT
11:18:48 BY THOSE BUSINESSES, IN MY OPINION.
11:18:50 TO PREEMPT OUR ABILITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:18:54 NOW, WITH THAT SAID, I STARTED LOOKING AT THAT ORLANDO
11:18:57 ORDINANCE LAST FALL, AND I HAD AN INTERN.
11:19:01 SHE DID A REAL GOOD JOB.
11:19:02 WE MET WITH SOME OTHER FOLKS.
11:19:06 I THINK ORLANDO HAS TAKEN A REAL POSITIVE STEP WITHIN THE
11:19:12 CONSTRAINTS OF THE PREEMPTION ORDINANCE.
11:19:15 I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE SAME THING.
11:19:21 WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR US TO GO FORWARD AND DIRECT
11:19:29 LEGAL TO DRAFT TAMPA'S VERSION OF THE ORLANDO ORDINANCE.
11:19:34 AND BRING IT BACK TO US AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WHATEVER
11:19:38 COUNCIL FEELS APPROPRIATE.
11:19:40 I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SIT TIGHT AND WAIT AND SEE.
11:19:45 TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NOBODY HAS CHALLENGED THE
11:19:49 ORLANDO ORDINANCE YET.
11:19:51 I THINK IT'S RELATIVELY SAFE.
11:19:52 I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT GREAT RISK.
11:19:53 IF ANYTHING, THE LEGISLATURE HAS BASICALLY, WITHIN THEIR
11:19:59 ORDINANCE, OR WITHIN THEIR STATUTE, HAS GIVEN US THE ABILITY
11:20:02 TO AT LEAST CONTROL OUR OWN PROPERTY.
11:20:04 SO TO THE EXTENT WE CAN DO THAT AT THE CONVENTION CENTER,
11:20:09 OUR LARGER PARKS, OUR LARGER VENUES, WHEN GASPARILLA COMES
11:20:12 AND SUPER BOWL COMES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, THAT WE'LL AT
11:20:16 LEAST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL ON OUR OWN PROPERTY.
11:20:21 THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, THAT WE DIRECT LEGAL STAFF TO COME
11:20:27 BACK --
11:20:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE A DATE?
11:20:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A MONTH OR SO I THINK IS FAIR, AND TO
11:20:36 COME BACK TO US WITH TAMPA'S VERSION OF ORLANDO'S ORDINANCE.
11:20:38 THANK YOU.
11:20:39 LET ME SEE IF I GET A SECOND.
11:20:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, BUT
11:20:48 COUNCILMAN CITRO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
11:20:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I TOTALLY
11:20:53 AGREE WITH YOU.
11:20:53 IT'S TIME THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES TAKE CHARGE, AND I
11:20:58 WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION.
11:20:59 BUT I REALLY FEEL COMPELLED TO SAY THIS, MYSELF, YOU, AND
11:21:05 COUNCILMAN GUDES WENT TO LEAGUE OF CITIES.
11:21:08 WE SAW THE PRESENTATION BY ORLANDO ON BEING A RESILIENT
11:21:13 CITY, AND CHANGING THEIR WAYS.
11:21:16 AS FAR AS PLASTIC, ENERGY, AND ALL SORTS OF THING.
11:21:20 I AM ON BOARD WITH THE SINGLE-USE PLASTIC.
11:21:23 AND BEFORE LEGAL GETS CONCERNED, MAYOR CASTOR IS ALSO
11:21:28 WORKING WITH TALLAHASSEE TO GET SEVERAL TYPES OF GRANTS FOR
11:21:31 OUR CITY.
11:21:32 I DO NOT WANT TO STEP IN HER WAY.
11:21:37 HOWEVER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, OUR HANDS AREN'T TIED BECAUSE
11:21:41 OF PREEMPTION.
11:21:42 EVERY PERSON THAT'S SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO
11:21:45 SPEAK ON SINGLE-USE PLASTIC, YOUR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE THE
11:21:51 CITY OF TAMPA CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS ON ITS OWN BECAUSE
11:21:55 FORGIVE ME, TALLAHASSEE THINKS THEY KNOW BETTER THAN WHAT WE
11:22:00 DO SITTING UP ON THIS COUNCIL.
11:22:03 IT'S TIME THAT WE NEED TO TALK WITH PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE
11:22:08 AND SIT DOWN, NOT ONLY ON THE SINGLE USE, BUT FOR OUR TREE
11:22:13 ORDINANCE THAT TOOK FIVE YEARS, NOT ONLY ON THAT, BUT 5G
11:22:19 WIRELESS THAT WE ARE BEING PREEMPTED ON, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT
11:22:23 SHORT-TERM STATE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN PREEMPTED ON.
11:22:27 SO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I AGREE WITH YOU.
11:22:31 I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION.
11:22:33 I MEAN NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE IN TALLAHASSEE.
11:22:36 I DON'T WANT TO STAND IN THE WAY OF THE MAYOR WHO MIGHT HAVE
11:22:39 SOME PLANS ON GETTING GRANTS FOR THE CITY, BUT IT'S UP TO
11:22:43 THE CITIZENS TO CALL YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, STATE
11:22:49 LEGISLATORS, AND TELL THEM HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR HANDS
11:22:53 BEING TIED.
11:22:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:22:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:22:59 ANY DISCUSSION?
11:22:59 BEFORE WE VOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE ATTORNEY.
11:23:02 ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
11:23:03 OKAY.
11:23:03 TAKE IT AWAY.
11:23:06 >>JAN McLEAN: A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
11:23:07 ONE, THE MOTION WAS TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE.
11:23:10 AS I INDICATED EARLIER, THE CITY OF ORLANDO HAS NOT ENACTED
11:23:14 AN ORDINANCE REGULATING THE USE AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE
11:23:17 PLASTICS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
11:23:19 THEY HAVE ADOPTED A POLICY SO THAT IT'S ADMINISTRATIVELY
11:23:23 IMPLEMENTED.
11:23:23 THEY DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SUSTAINABILITY, WHICH, AS YOU
11:23:27 WELL KNOW, THE MAYOR HAS AS ONE OF HER INITIATIVES AND IS
11:23:30 MOVING FORWARD TO THAT END.
11:23:32 SO I DON'T KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT THE INTENT IS OF THAT
11:23:37 EFFORT, IF IT WILL RESULT IN AN ORDINANCE WHICH MIGHT
11:23:40 ADDRESS THAT AND PROVIDE THE BASIS FOR THIS POLICY.
11:23:44 THE SECOND IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED AT THIS
11:23:47 POINT IN TIME.
11:23:47 THE PREEMPTION COMES WITH THE LEGAL POTENTIAL OF BEING
11:23:53 CHALLENGED AND BEING EXPOSED TO ATTORNEY'S FEES.
11:23:59 IF SOMEONE FILES THE NOTICE THAT WE'VE ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE
11:24:03 THAT EXCEEDS OUR AUTHORITY AND CROSSES THAT PREEMPTION LINE,
11:24:08 IT'S IN CHAPTER 57112 FLORIDA STATUTES.
11:24:13 NOW, THE ONLY THING, SO THAT YOU HAVE THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT
11:24:17 YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO AND WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT
11:24:20 MIGHT BE, IF YOU WOULD PROCEED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AND
11:24:25 THEN THIS NOTICE IS FILED, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN
11:24:30 RESCIND THE ORDINANCE, REPEAL IT.
11:24:34 YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE NOW YOU SEE
11:24:37 THAT YOU ARE FULLY EXPOSED AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO CHALLENGE
11:24:40 IT, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY ATTORNEYS' FEES.
11:24:43 I WANTED YOU TO HAVE THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES
11:24:46 OF WHAT YOUR MOTION COULD BE.
11:24:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:24:51 WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FINANCIAL RISK TO THE
11:24:55 COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE,
11:24:59 BUT WE ALSO WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:25:03 I POINT TO YOUR MEMO, WHICH YOU DID A GREAT JOB, AND
11:25:06 SPECIFICALLY ON THE FIRST PAGE, SECTION 500.90, AND IT SAYS
11:25:11 THIS STATUTE DOES NOT LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF LOCAL
11:25:14 GOVERNMENT TO RESTRICT THE USE OF POLYSTYRENE BY INDIVIDUALS
11:25:18 ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, TEMPORARY VENDORS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR
11:25:22 ENTITIES ENGAGED IN A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
11:25:25 LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE PROVISION OF GOODS OR SERVICES AND
11:25:29 SUCH USES OTHERWISE PREEMPTED BY LAW.
11:25:32 SO THAT, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THEY'VE CREATED THIS
11:25:36 OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADDRESS THIS BY ORDINANCE ON OUR OWN
11:25:41 PROPERTY.
11:25:41 I THINK IT'S RIGHT THERE, PLAIN IN THE STATUTE.
11:25:44 I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL BE VERY CAUTIOUS AND CREATIVE TO MAKE
11:25:49 SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT.
11:25:52 BUT THE FACT THAT ORLANDO DID IT BY POLICY MEANS THAT, AND
11:25:56 LIKE YOU SAID, THE MAYOR SITS WITH THEM, OR MAYBE IT'S A
11:26:00 DIFFERENT SETUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DON'T HAVE THE
11:26:02 BENEFIT OF HAVING THE MAYOR WITH US WEEKLY, LIKE
11:26:07 ST. PETERSBURG OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
11:26:08 SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN DO IT BY ORDINANCE IN THIS BODY.
11:26:13 IT WOULD GO OVER TO THE MAYOR FOR SIGNATURE, AND HOPEFULLY
11:26:16 SHE'LL AGREE.
11:26:19 >>JAN McLEAN: WHAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST IS, IF YOUR
11:26:21 DIRECTION IS FOR US TO DRAFT THAT ORDINANCE FOR YOUR
11:26:24 CONSIDERATION, WE COULD DO THAT, BRING IT BACK, PRIOR TO
11:26:29 FIRST READING SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THAT.
11:26:32 AND WE WOULD THEN TIME IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE POST
11:26:36 LEGISLATION, POST LEGISLATIVE SESSION SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW
11:26:41 AT LEAST THAT PORTION OF WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, WE MAY NOT
11:26:43 HAVE THE OUTCOME OF THE CASE, BUT YOU WOULD AT LEAST HAVE
11:26:46 WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAD DONE.
11:26:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE SAYING SECOND READING POST
11:26:51 LEGISLATURE --
11:26:51 >>JAN McLEAN: NO.
11:26:52 I'M SAYING IF WE BROUGHT BACK A DRAFT FOR YOUR REVIEW PRIOR
11:26:56 TO FIRST READING, SO THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WOULD
11:27:00 BE PROPOSED FOR FIRST READING.
11:27:02 SO ANOTHER WORKSHOP, SAY.
11:27:04 AND POST-LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH ENDS AT THE BEGINNING OF
11:27:08 MARCH.
11:27:09 SO MAYBE AT THE END OF THE MARCH, BEGINNING OF APRIL, BRING
11:27:12 YOU A DRAFT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:27:14 AND THEN IF WE ARRIVE AT A DRAFT THAT YOU AGREE IS
11:27:19 ACCEPTABLE, THEN SET IT FOR FIRST READING THEREAFTER.
11:27:22 SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR TIME TO GIVE AS MUCH POSSIBLE TO SEE WHAT
11:27:26 ACTIONS ACTUALLY GET TAKEN.
11:27:28 BUT WE'RE WORKING AT YOUR DIRECTION.
11:27:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE THE SESSION EARLIER THAN IT USED TO
11:27:32 BE.
11:27:33 >>JAN McLEAN: EVERY OTHER YEAR.
11:27:34 THIS YEAR IT IS JANUARY TO MARCH.
11:27:36 NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE BACK TO MARCH TO MAY.
11:27:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:27:41 WELL, I'D STILL LIKE AT A MINIMUM SEE THAT DRAFT COME BACK
11:27:46 TO US IN FEBRUARY, 30 DAYS FROM NOW, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE
11:27:51 WHERE TO GO FROM THERE AND MAYBE FIRST READING WOULD BE
11:27:54 AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
11:27:55 BUT I THINK JUST TO KEEP THINGS MOVING AND TO LET FOLKS KNOW
11:27:58 THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON
11:28:01 IT, MY MOTION WOULD BE 30 DAYS FROM NOW, TO AT LEAST SEE THE
11:28:07 DRAFT.
11:28:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:28:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:10 IF YOU REWIND THE TAPE, 10, 15 MINUTES, THAT IS THE SAME
11:28:14 QUESTION I ASKED, PASSING IT ON FIRST READING AND HOLDING IT
11:28:17 UNTIL THE LEGISLATURE MADE UP ITS MIND.
11:28:20 I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS LEGAL OR NOT.
11:28:22 >>JAN McLEAN: I'M SORRY I DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
11:28:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT DEBATING.
11:28:25 I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER.
11:28:28 >>JAN McLEAN: I APOLOGIZE.
11:28:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. ZELMAN.
11:28:32 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF I MAY, THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN WE HAVE,
11:28:34 AS JAN MENTIONED, THERE IS A PENDING CASE IN FRONT OF THE
11:28:38 FLORIDA YOU ARE THE SO, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE
11:28:41 OTHER FLORIDA STATUTE IN CHAPTER 403 THAT PREEMPTS TO THE
11:28:46 STATE THE REGULATION OF CERTAIN PLASTICS AND CONTAINERS AND
11:28:49 THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:28:52 AND OUR CONCERN IS MOVING FORWARD UNTIL WE SEE THE OUTCOME
11:28:56 OF THAT CASE.
11:28:58 AS JAN MENTIONED, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE SUPREME COURT IS
11:29:01 GOING TO HEAR IT, BUT WE SHOULD FIND OUT IN THE NEXT FEW
11:29:04 MONTHS AND/OR FIND OUT THE RESULTS OF IT.
11:29:06 OUR CONCERN IS MOVING FORWARD, WHEN THERE IS THIS QUESTION
11:29:10 AS TO THE LEGALITY TO THE CITY OF CORAL GABLES ORDINANCE.
11:29:15 SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL CAN
11:29:19 STILL MAKE A MOTION TO ASK US TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF
11:29:23 MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION IS THE MAYOR IS THE
11:29:27 RESILIENCY, SUSTAINABILITY EFFORT UNDERWAY.
11:29:31 WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT IN THAT CONTEXT.
11:29:35 AGAIN, ORLANDO HAS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, A SUSTAINABILITY
11:29:39 RESILIENCY ORDINANCE, AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT ORDINANCE,
11:29:42 THE CITY THEN ADOPTED THE POLICY THAT JAN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
11:29:48 THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO IS WHETHER OUR CITY COULD
11:29:51 ADOPT A SIMILAR POLICY, IF WE HAD AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT IN
11:29:54 EFFECT.
11:29:55 SO I THINK MY POINT IS, WE'RE NOT AT ALL DISAGREEING THAT
11:29:58 THIS IS A NOBLE, WORTHY CAUSE.
11:30:02 WE JUST WANT TO THREAD THE NEEDLE AND NOT END UP WITH
11:30:06 ANOTHER LAWSUIT ON OUR HANDS, GIVEN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.
11:30:09 SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS MORE OF A TIMING QUESTION.
11:30:14 LET US NOT TAKE ANY AFFIRMATIVE CONCRETE ACTION UNTIL WE SEE
11:30:17 THE RESULTS OF BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THE COURT
11:30:20 CASE.
11:30:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID DRAFT.
11:30:23 THERE'S NO ORDINANCE BEING SIGNED.
11:30:27 I THINK WE'LL BE VERY CAUTIOUS WITH IT.
11:30:30 A DRAFT IN 30 DAYS PER THE MOTION OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:30:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPECIFICALLY MARCH 5th.
11:30:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 5th.
11:30:37 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:30:39 YOU KNOW, I DON'T USE STRAWS.
11:30:43 I HATE STYROFOAM TO THE POINT THAT STYROFOAM GROSSES ME OUT.
11:30:48 I DON'T USE SINGLE PLASTIC BAGS.
11:30:50 I HAVE THE REUSABLE BAGS IN MY OFFICE, IN MY CAR.
11:30:53 IF I GO TO A SAVE A LOT WHERE THEY CHARGE YOU FOR BAGS, I
11:30:57 GO, IF I USE A REUSABLE BAG OR I CARRY THE STUFF OUT.
11:31:01 I TRY TO DO MY PART EVEN IF ONE PERSON TO PREVENT DUMPING
11:31:06 MORE AND MORE INTO OUR ENVIRONMENT.
11:31:08 YOU CAN'T RECYCLE EVERYTHING.
11:31:10 I FEEL BAD DRINKING OUT OF PLASTIC BOTTLES.
11:31:12 I GET ONE OF THOSE FILTERS FROM THE TAP AND JUST USE A GLASS
11:31:16 AT HOME OR USE A REUSABLE THING.
11:31:18 I TRY TO DO MY PART.
11:31:21 WE CAN'T KICK THE RECYCLABLE ALUMINUM CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
11:31:24 WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR PART NOW.
11:31:27 AND I THINK THIS IS NOBLE AND WORTHY AND LONG OVERDUE,
11:31:31 BECAUSE WE'VE POLLUTED SO MUCH.
11:31:32 AT LEAST WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S 2020 AND
11:31:35 DOING THE RIGHT THING.
11:31:36 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND
11:31:38 FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:31:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER STAFF REPORTS, MR. DINGFELDER?
11:31:43 STAFF REPORTS, MARCH 5th?
11:31:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
11:31:45 AND DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE VOTE?
11:31:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE VOTE, WE'LL TAKE IT TO PUBLIC
11:31:56 COMMENT SO EVERYONE CAN SPEAK.
11:31:58 AFTER YOU SPEAK, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
11:32:01 WE'LL LISTEN TO YOUR COMMENTS.
11:32:02 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, APPROACH THE LECTERN, AND
11:32:05 STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
11:32:09 AND YOU CAN START NOW.
11:32:11 >> HELLO.
11:32:12 THIS IS --
11:32:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S NO MIKE.
11:32:18 YOU'RE GOOD.
11:32:19 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:32:25 >> YOU NEED MY ADDRESS, TOO?
11:32:26 CHRISTIAN LEON, 2010 EAST PALM AVENUE, NUMBER 14319, TAMPA
11:32:35 FLORIDA, 33605.
11:32:36 I AM HERE TODAY SPEAKING ON BEHALF -- OR AS CO-CHAIR OF THE
11:32:43 SUNCOAST RISE ABOVE PLASTICS COALITION.
11:32:48 SEVERAL OF YOU KNOW ME.
11:32:49 I SPENT THE PAST FOUR YEARS INVOLVED WITH THAT COALITION
11:32:52 OVER IN ST. PETE.
11:32:54 I WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE TO -- YOU
11:32:59 KNOW, WE HAD 17 MEETINGS BEFORE THE ST. PETE COMMITTEE.
11:33:06 THEY DELIBERATED THIS FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS BEFORE COMING TO
11:33:11 THE ORDINANCE THEY DECIDED TO PASSED.
11:33:13 IT'S FUNNY TO SPEAK AFTER THE CITY OR THE COUNCIL ATTORNEY
11:33:17 HAS SPOKEN.
11:33:17 I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A VERY -- OR IT'S PERCEIVED TO BE
11:33:21 A VERY CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT AND IT'S PERCEIVED TO BE
11:33:25 SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.
11:33:26 I CAN TELL YOU IN ALL THE TIME I'VE BEEN INVOLVED THAT FEAR
11:33:29 HAS BEEN EXTREME SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING, AND WE'VE HAD TO
11:33:33 WORK THROUGH IT.
11:33:34 JUST LIKE I SAID BEFORE, ST. PETE HAD 17 MEETINGS BEFORE
11:33:38 THEY DID ANYTHING AND THEY STILL DELIBERATED ON IT FIVE
11:33:41 HOURS BEFORE THEY TOOK A VOTE.
11:33:42 SO I WANT TO LEND MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND WHAT I LEARNED
11:33:47 DURING THAT TIME TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
11:33:49 THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE
11:33:52 TAMPA BAY AREA, AND ESPECIALLY IN PINELLAS.
11:33:54 SO I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WHATEVER ST. PETE HAS ON THE BOOKS
11:33:57 IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE NOT WORRIED AT ALL WILL TRIGGER
11:34:00 ANYTHING.
11:34:01 I CAN TELL YOU THE SAME IS TRUE IN ORLANDO.
11:34:03 THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PASSED ANYTHING IF THEY WERE WORRIED
11:34:05 ABOUT IT AT ALL.
11:34:06 BECAUSE EVERY CITY AND MUNICIPALITY, EXCEPT FOR CORAL GABLES
11:34:10 AND GAINESVILLE, ONCE THEY SAW THE REACTION FROM THE STATE
11:34:14 AND THE REACTION TO THAT AND GOT INVOLVED IN THE LEGAL, IN
11:34:17 THE LAWSUITS, EVERYONE ELSE HAS TAKEN THE MOST CONSERVATIVE
11:34:22 MEASURES POSSIBLE.
11:34:23 I THINK IN TAMPA AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT IF WE PIECE TOGETHER
11:34:25 THE LAWS THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY
11:34:28 NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ORLANDO
11:34:30 WOULD BE WORRIED AND ST. PETE AND OTHER CITIES WOULD BE, AND
11:34:33 THEY ARE NOT.
11:34:33 NO ONE IS WORRIED.
11:34:34 I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT OFF THE BAT.
11:34:37 ALSO, I KNOW MY PARENTS WILL BE UNHAPPY OR HAPPY ABOUT THIS,
11:34:45 YOU KNOW, I WENT TO A GREAT LAW SCHOOL.
11:34:47 THEY PAID FOR EVERYTHING LIKE GOOD LATINO PARENTS.
11:34:51 THEY'VE QUESTIONED ME FOR THE LAST I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
11:34:54 YEARS ABOUT WHY THE HELL I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
11:34:56 I CAN TELL YOU AT LEAST I CAN BRING THAT TO THIS.
11:34:58 I'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ATTORNEYS OVER IN THE
11:35:00 CITY, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH STETSON, WITH PROFESSOR LONG
11:35:04 FROM THE STETSON UNIVERSITY OR STETSON COLLEGE OF LAW.
11:35:07 SO WE'LL HAVE LIKE THE BEST ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE POSSIBLE
11:35:12 IN TERMS OF LEGAL MATTERS.
11:35:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S A GREAT T-SHIRT.
11:35:15 WOULD YOU MINE SHOWING THAT FOR THE CAMERAS?
11:35:17 CITY OF TAMPA.
11:35:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:22 NEXT PERSON.
11:35:28 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:35:29 MY NAME IS NANCY STEVENS.
11:35:32 I LIVE IN TAMPA, 33606.
11:35:34 I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH THE SIERRA CLUB.
11:35:36 THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING LEADERSHIP IN GETTING US AWAY FROM
11:35:40 THE SINGLE-USE PLASTICS.
11:35:41 I THINK I'LL CONCENTRATE MY STATEMENTS ON JUST A FEW OTHER
11:35:45 REASONS TO LIMIT.
11:35:48 I WAS READING A REPORT BY FOOD AND WATER WATCH, TALKING
11:35:50 ABOUT JUST THE MANUFACTURE OF PLASTICS MADE FROM PETRO
11:35:57 CHEMICALS.
11:35:58 CHEAP FRACK GAS HAS DRIVEN COMPANIES TO FIND MORE USES FOR
11:36:03 PLASTICS.
11:36:03 HOUSTON AND LOUISIANA WHERE SOME OF THIS PETROCHEMICAL
11:36:09 PRODUCTION IS.
11:36:09 ONE OF THE THINGS THEY QUOTED WAS IN 2018, ONE ESTIMATE THAT
11:36:14 THERE WOULD BE 333 MORE FACILITIES PRODUCING PLASTICS IN THE
11:36:19 NEXT DECADE.
11:36:20 THAT IS A 40% INCREASE IN PLASTICS.
11:36:22 THE PLASTICS CONTAMINATE THE AIR AND THE WATER WHEN THEY
11:36:28 PRODUCE IT, AND HAVE TOXIC CHEMICALS.
11:36:31 THERE'S MONEY IN PRODUCING PLASTICS AND DRIVING US TO USE
11:36:34 IT.
11:36:36 THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FIGHTING AGAINST.
11:36:39 JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
11:36:42 AS YOU TALKED ABOUT DISPOSAL OF PLASTICS AND THEY ARE THERE
11:36:47 FOREVER AND THEY NEVER BREAK DOWN.
11:36:48 THEY BREAK DOWN TO SMALLER AND SMALLER PARTICLES, INTO
11:36:51 MICROPLASTICS.
11:36:52 AND ONE STUDY BY USF ST. PETE FOUND THAT THERE'S 4 BILLION
11:36:56 PARTICLES OF MICROPLASTICS IN TAMPA BAY.
11:37:00 THAT'S -- COMES FROM CLOTHING AND OTHER THINGS BUT ALSO FROM
11:37:04 THE BREAKDOWN OF THESE LARGE PLASTICS.
11:37:06 JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
11:37:09 THANK YOU FOR TAKING LEADERSHIP IN THIS AND DOING WHAT YOU
11:37:12 CAN TO REDUCE.
11:37:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND
11:37:16 PEOPLE LIKE PHIL COMPTON THAT BRING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.
11:37:21 SOY-BASED PLASTICS, IS THE SIERRA CLUB OPPOSED TO THAT?
11:37:25 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
11:37:26 I THINK IT'S PROBABLY -- AT LEAST THEY WILL DECOMPOSE.
11:37:35 DECOMPOSITION, THEY ARE MORE BIOCOMPOSTABLE.
11:37:38 FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THEY ARE BETTER THAN PETRO CHEMICALS
11:37:41 WHICH DO NOT BREAK DOWN.
11:37:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:37:43 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:37:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:45 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
11:37:52 >> HI.
11:37:53 I AM JULIA GORZKA FREEMAN.
11:37:56 1009 WEST CHARTER STREET IN TAMPA, 33602.
11:38:00 PERSONALLY, I WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR TAKING LEADERSHIP ON
11:38:06 THIS ISSUE AND MOVING US FORWARD AT SUCH A WONDERFUL PACE.
11:38:11 NEXT, I'M HERE TO SHARE A STATEMENT FROM EMER KELLY, FORMER
11:38:16 CHAIR OF THE SUNCOAST RISE ABOVE PLASTICS COALITION AND
11:38:18 THEIR COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR.
11:38:20 EMER APOLOGIZES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK HERE IN PERSON.
11:38:22 ON BEHALF OF HER, SUNCOAST RISE ABOVE PLASTICS IS A
11:38:25 COALITION OF 17 AREA NONPROFITS RANGING FROM THE FLORIDA
11:38:29 AQUARIUM, USF MARINE BIOLOGY DEPARTMENT TO THE SEA TURTLE
11:38:33 TRACKERS.
11:38:34 SERVING AS A CONVENING POINT FOR COLLECTIVE EFFORTS TO
11:38:38 ADDRESS CONTAMINATION ISSUES IN TAMPA BAY.
11:38:40 LAST YEAR, WE SUCCESSFULLY WORKED WITH ENVIRONMENTALISTS,
11:38:45 BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG'S OFFICE
11:38:48 OF SUSTAINABILITY TO PASS AN ORDINANCE WHICH JUST TOOK
11:38:51 EFFECT ON JANUARY 1st OF THIS YEAR.
11:38:54 TO FOCUS ON THAT ORDINANCE AND THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM IT
11:38:59 OUR COALITION PRIDES ITSELF ON BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND
11:39:01 MAKES IT A PRIORITY TO TALK TO BUSINESSES AND LEARN FROM
11:39:04 THEM.
11:39:05 WE HAVE SEEN BUSINESSES AND ENVIRONMENTALISTS CAN WORK
11:39:07 TOGETHER TO EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS ISSUES IN A WAY THAT
11:39:10 BENEFITS EVERYONE.
11:39:10 OVER THE PAST YEAR, I'VE SPOKEN WITH COUNTLESS BUSINESSES
11:39:14 IMPACTED BY THE ORDINANCE AND PLASTIC STRAWS AND STYRENE AND
11:39:22 I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY
11:39:25 POSITIVE.
11:39:25 A SURVEY OF ALL 552 AFFECTED BUSINESSES WAS TAKEN, AND THE
11:39:29 RESULTS, AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, MORE THAN 90% OF
11:39:34 BUSINESSES REPORTED A POSITIVE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE
11:39:37 ORDINANCE.
11:39:37 THEY GAVE MANY REASONS FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
11:39:40 SOME REFLECTED PERSONAL VIEWS, BUT MANY REFLECTED A STRONG
11:39:44 BUSINESS CASE.
11:39:46 THEY WERE AWARE THAT CONSUMERS WANT TO SEE STRONG
11:39:49 ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND
11:39:50 SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES WHO ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE THEIR
11:39:53 GREEN FOOTPRINT.
11:39:54 I WANT TO SHARE ONE MORE LESSON.
11:39:57 THE PRIMARY CONCERN REGARDING SINGLE USE PLASTICS
11:40:01 REGULATIONS IS A COST BURDEN IT COULD POTENTIALLY PLACE ON
11:40:05 BUSINESSES.
11:40:06 BY COMBINING A SINGLE USE PLASTIC RESTRICTION WITH
11:40:09 ON-REQUEST-ONLY REGULATION, ST. PETERSBURG HAS SUCCESSFULLY
11:40:12 ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE.
11:40:13 BUSINESSES ARE REPORTING AT LEAST A 50% REDUCTION IN
11:40:18 SINGLE-USE ITEMS.
11:40:19 THIS REDUCTION LEADS TO COST SAVINGS WHICH ARE THEN PUT INTO
11:40:22 BUYING MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY MATERIALS, AND THEY ARE
11:40:28 ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY COMPARED TO WHEN THEY WERE HANDING
11:40:31 SINGLE-USE PLASTIC ITEMS TO EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER.
11:40:33 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS
11:40:36 ISSUE.
11:40:36 PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO THE COALITION WITH ANY
11:40:39 QUESTIONS.
11:40:40 THANK YOU.
11:40:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:40:41 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
11:40:44 >> HELLO.
11:40:44 MY NAME IS ALLISON DATE.
11:40:47 I LIVE AT 2403 WEST CHICAGO AVENUE, TAMPA, 33629.
11:40:56 I AM SO EXCITED THAT I CAME TODAY.
11:41:00 I WASN'T GOING TO COME BECAUSE I VOLUNTEER AT THE AQUARIUM,
11:41:02 BUT I LEARNED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, AND I SAID I WANT TO
11:41:07 KNOW WHY WE KEEP PUTTING FORTH THESE THINGS THAT OUR
11:41:12 COMMUNITY WANTS AND THEY GET KNOCKED DOWN BY THE STATE, AT
11:41:17 THE STATE LEVEL OR MAYBE EVEN NATIONAL LEVEL.
11:41:20 SO I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT ALL OF YOU ARE HERE TO PROTECT OUR
11:41:29 LIBERTY OF THAT, OF MAYBE HAVING SOME CONTROL OVER WHAT
11:41:34 HAPPENS, WHERE WE LIVE.
11:41:35 I CAME HERE FROM A PLACE THAT WAS VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY
11:41:42 ACTIVE, AND SO WHEN I FIRST WENT TO THE STORE HERE I PUT MY
11:41:50 BAG DOWN ON THE COUNTER TO HAVE MY THINGS PUT IN IT AND THEY
11:41:56 DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS WAS.
11:41:57 MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
11:42:01 IT'S A BAG.
11:42:04 IT'S A BAG INSTEAD OF USING THE PLASTIC BAGS.
11:42:14 I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU'RE TAKING THE MOVE THAT YOU CAN, EVEN
11:42:17 IF IT'S JUST AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, YOU'LL BE SETTING A MODEL
11:42:21 OF EXPECTATION FOR WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
11:42:25 I THINK IT IS ABOUT EACH OF US AS INDIVIDUALS MAKING THOSE
11:42:28 CHOICES AND SETTING AN EXAMPLE.
11:42:30 AND I TRY TO, BUT IT'S VERY HARD, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN
11:42:34 PLASTIC.
11:42:35 AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
11:42:39 THAT PLASTIC COMES FROM OIL, AND WE ARE IN A FOSSIL FUEL
11:42:48 COUNTRY -- OR ECONOMY, AND THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.
11:42:53 IT'S KILLING US.
11:42:55 IT'S ALL RELATED.
11:42:57 I THINK IT WAS JOHN MIR WHO SAID IF YOU TOUCH ONE LITTLE
11:43:03 PART OF NATURE YOU SEE IT'S ALL CONNECTED.
11:43:05 I CAME HERE FIRST ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY, TRYING TO PROTECT
11:43:08 THAT, AND WE -- YOU GUYS SPENT LOTS OF TIME ON THAT, AND
11:43:14 THEN IT WAS LIKE, OH, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
11:43:16 WE'RE STILL GOING TO CUT THEM DOWN.
11:43:18 SO WHEN I READ THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO ALLOW THIS
11:43:21 ORDINANCE TO GO THROUGH, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
11:43:25 TRYING TO PROTECT IT.
11:43:26 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
11:43:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:29 KELLY BENJAMIN.
11:43:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAPPY NEW YEAR, KELLY.
11:43:40 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:43:41 I CAN GET YOU A BAG, IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
11:43:44 WE CAN GET ONE STAMPED WITH CHRISTIAN'S -- IF YOU WANT IT.
11:43:53 KELLY BENJAMIN.
11:43:55 I AM SO EXCITED THAT WE ARE FINALLY DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE
11:43:58 HERE AT COUNCIL.
11:43:59 I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CHRISTIAN FOR THE PAST SEVERAL
11:44:02 MONTHS.
11:44:02 WE REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:44:05 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY, PEOPLE WHO OPERATE FOOD
11:44:08 TRUCKS.
11:44:09 I HAVE A SPREADSHEET GOING THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE
11:44:12 WITH YOU.
11:44:13 AS SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY
11:44:17 POSITIVE.
11:44:18 I'VE SPOKEN WITH PEOPLE WHO CONDUCT FESTIVALS HERE AT CURTIS
11:44:22 HIXON, GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL COMING UP IN A MONTH OR SO.
11:44:26 YOU GUYS SHOULD ALL ATTEND.
11:44:28 THEY HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED TO USING 100% ALTERNATIVES TO
11:44:33 PLASTIC.
11:44:33 A HUGE THING FOR THE CITY.
11:44:34 RIGHT ON THE BAY.
11:44:35 WE'RE A CITY ON THE BAY.
11:44:37 WATERWAY RIGHT HERE.
11:44:38 AS A COUNTRY, WE PRODUCE OVER A HUNDRED BILLION, WE USE A
11:44:43 HUNDRED BILLION PLASTIC BAGS A YEAR.
11:44:46 400 CITIES NOW HAVE ENACTED BANS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE
11:44:51 TALKING ABOUT.
11:44:52 I WOULD LOVE IF FLORIDA CITIES COULD PUSH SOMETHING EVEN
11:44:56 STRONGER, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS -- IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
11:44:59 IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
11:45:00 IT KEEPS OUR COMMUNITIES CLEAN.
11:45:03 IT KEEPS OUR MARINE ENVIRONMENTS HEALTHY.
11:45:05 I COMMEND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR THE
11:45:12 COMMENTS ABOUT THE PREEMPTION ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING IN
11:45:16 THE STATE.
11:45:16 IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT OUR HAND ARE TIED TO THAT
11:45:19 EXTENT.
11:45:19 BUT I THINK THAT IS CRUCIAL THAT WE ENACT THIS LEGISLATION
11:45:25 OR THIS POLICY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:45:29 WHEN IT DOES COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING, THIS HALL CAN
11:45:34 BE PACKED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE
11:45:40 OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
11:45:42 EVEN BEFORE WHAT HAPPENED IN ORLANDO.
11:45:45 I THINK THAT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN LEAD ON THIS
11:45:48 ISSUE AND BECOME A COMMUNITY THAT -- THIS STUFF DOESN'T GO
11:45:51 AWAY, AS SOMEONE MENTIONED.
11:45:53 IT'S GOING TO BE HERE WHEN MY GRANDKIDS ARE AROUND.
11:45:56 THAT PLASTIC IS STILL GOING TO BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BAY.
11:45:58 IT'S HORRIBLE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE IT OUT THERE AND
11:46:01 TRASHING OUR COMMUNITY.
11:46:03 THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH
11:46:10 THE COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD ON THIS ISSUE, AND I THINK THAT
11:46:13 THE TIME IS NOW FOR IT.
11:46:14 I THANK EVERYONE FOR ALLOWING THIS TO BE HERE, AND I'M
11:46:19 REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT A SECOND AND MOVING
11:46:21 FORWARD ON IT.
11:46:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:23 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:46:24 ALL RIGHT.
11:46:28 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:46:30 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND A COMMENT FROM OUR LEGAL
11:46:34 TEAM.
11:46:35 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE MOTION
11:46:37 READ AGAIN?
11:46:38 WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT --
11:46:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY SUGGESTED I RESTATE IT JUST TO
11:46:43 BE CLEAR AND CONCISE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:46:45 SO THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT RETURN
11:46:49 MARCH 5th DURING STAFF REPORTS WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE
11:46:55 THAT'S MODELED AFTER ORLANDO'S POLICY AND THAT STAYS WITHIN
11:47:01 THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE STATE STATUTE.
11:47:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:47:04 WE HAVE A MOTION --
11:47:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND JUST ONE FINAL COMMENT, AS RELATED TO
11:47:11 SINGLE-USE PLASTICS, THE USE OF SINGLE-USE PLASTICS ON CITY
11:47:16 PROPERTY.
11:47:17 AND SPECIFICALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT
11:47:20 SOME OF THE FOLKS SAID, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE JULIA, YOU
11:47:24 AND MR. LEON AND THE REST OF YOU COMING DOWN HERE AND
11:47:30 WORKING ON THIS.
11:47:32 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STRUCK ME, AND
11:47:34 MR. MIRANDA, YOU'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
11:47:37 YOUR VEHICLE, THAT YOU'RE LEADING BY EXAMPLE.
11:47:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF.
11:47:44 ELECTRIC CAR BUT MADE OUT OF PLASTIC.
11:47:45 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:47:46 MOST OF IT IS PLASTIC.
11:47:50 I TELL MYSELF WHAT POSITION I PUT MYSELF IN.
11:47:53 I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
11:47:56 WHAT DO I DO NOW?
11:47:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, CHARLIE, YOU'LL BE
11:48:00 DRIVING IT 20 YEARS.
11:48:02 THAT'S A GOOD THING.
11:48:03 ANYWAY, IN DOING THIS ORDINANCE, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A HUGE
11:48:09 IMPACT, BUT WE'RE SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT
11:48:13 THIS IS IMPORTANT AND THIS IS AS FAR AS THIS COUNCIL CAN GO,
11:48:16 UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE, BUT IT IS
11:48:18 IMPORTANT, AND WE ARE TRYING TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
11:48:21 WE LET THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY MODEL THEIR BEHAVIOR AFTER
11:48:26 WHAT WE DO.
11:48:28 I THINK IT'S A GREAT STEP FORWARD.
11:48:29 I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE MAYOR WILL BE WITH US, AND THAT'S MY
11:48:32 MOTION.
11:48:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:48:35 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:48:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND STILL STANDS.
11:48:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
11:48:41 ANY OPPOSED?
11:48:41 NO.
11:48:43 ALL RIGHT.
11:48:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:45 [ APPLAUSE ]
11:48:45 THAT CONCLUDES OUR FINAL WORKSHOP.
11:48:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS UNANIMOUS, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:48:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LUIS ISN'T HERE.
11:48:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: VIERA BEING ABSENT.
11:48:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNANIMOUS.
11:49:00 THAT'S IT.
11:49:00 WE'RE GOING TO GO NOW TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW
11:49:02 BUSINESS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:49:03 I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:49:05 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:49:07 I MET WITH A REPRESENTATIVE -- OR ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF
11:49:11 ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION YESTERDAY.
11:49:13 THE SUPREME COURT REVIEW I THINK IS COMING UP NEXT WEEK, AND
11:49:18 THEN HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, THEY'LL HAVE AN
11:49:20 ANSWER ON IT.
11:49:21 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE,
11:49:25 IF THAT MONEY COMES THROUGH, THERE WILL BE LOTS OF MONEY FOR
11:49:28 SIDEWALKS AND ROADS AND EVERYTHING, BUT ALSO THERE WILL BE
11:49:31 MONEY FOR US TO DO MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
11:49:34 AND SO JUST TO GET THE BALL ROLLING FASTER, I WOULD LIKE TO
11:49:37 MAKE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL REQUEST THE TRANSPORTATION
11:49:40 DEPARTMENT TO CONSIDER CREATING A CITYWIDE COMPREHENSIVE
11:49:43 SIDEWALK PLAN, AND THAT JEAN DUNCAN APPEAR BEFORE CITY
11:49:47 COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 20 UNDER STAFF REPORTS TO DISCUSS.
11:49:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:49:52 CARLSON.
11:49:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:49:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:49:56 AND THERE IS -- OR THERE WAS A LIST AT LEAST LAST YEAR OF
11:49:59 PROPOSED SIDEWALK PROJECTS.
11:50:00 SO THEY HAVE --
11:50:03 >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE IDEA HERE, I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME
11:50:05 THING FOR BICYCLES.
11:50:06 THE IDEA HERE IS WE HAD THE PROBLEM ON BAY TO BAY, WHICH WAS
11:50:09 PARTLY ABOUT -- ENDED UP BEING A DISCUSSION ABOUT DRIVING
11:50:14 BUT REALLY IT WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT SAFETY OF SIDEWALKS AND
11:50:17 THEN BICYCLES ARE INCLUDED IN THAT.
11:50:19 BUT I THINK IF WE HAD A CITYWIDE VISION, WHERE ALL THE
11:50:25 BICYCLE LANES WOULD GO AND WHERE ALL THE SIDEWALKS WOULD GO,
11:50:27 THEN AS DRIVERS ARE LOOKING AT IT FEELING THREATENED THAT
11:50:30 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY ALL THEIR DRIVING LANES, THEY CAN
11:50:33 SAY, OKAY, I'M WILLING TO GIVE UP PARTS OF THOSE ROADS AS
11:50:36 LONG AS THE OTHER ROADS ARE PREPARED.
11:50:38 MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REQUEST THE
11:50:39 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO CONSIDER CREATING A CITYWIDE
11:50:42 COMPREHENSIVE BICYCLE LANE PROBLEM AND THAT JEAN DUNCAN
11:50:45 APPEAR BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 20 YOU DID STAFF
11:50:47 REPORTS TO DISCUSS.
11:50:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:50:50 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:50:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:50:53 >>BILL CARLSON: THE THIRD ONE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE
11:50:56 COMPLICATED.
11:50:56 I WILL PASS THESE OUT.
11:51:00 HERE'S ONE FOR THE CLERK.
11:51:04 I CAME INTO RECEIPT OF A DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT FROM THE
11:51:07 CITY WATER DEPARTMENT TO TAMPA BAY WATER LAST WEEK.
11:51:14 AND YOU'LL NOTE ON HERE, IT SAYS -- IT HAS THE MAYOR'S
11:51:17 LETTERHEAD, BUT THE CHIEF OF STAFF, WHO WAS NOT AWARE OF IT,
11:51:22 IS NOT COPIED AND THE MAYOR IS NOT COPIED ON THIS, IF YOU GO
11:51:25 TO PAGE -- IT'S LABELED PAGE TWO.
11:51:29 I HIGHLIGHT IT AT THE BOTTOM.
11:51:31 SAYS UNDER REUSE, AND THIS IS THE CITY WATER DEPARTMENT
11:51:35 MAKING A STATEMENT TO TAMPA BAY WATER, THEY SAY, THE CITY OF
11:51:38 TAMPA INTENDS TO IMPLEMENT THE TAMPA AUGMENTATION PROJECT,
11:51:42 AND WILL ELIMINATE ITS NEED FOR WHOLESALE WATER FROM THE
11:51:45 TAMPA BAY WATER SYSTEM.
11:51:47 IT SOUNDS LIKE A POLICY STATEMENT TO ME, AND SO I WOULD LIKE
11:51:53 TO -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THE WATER
11:51:57 DEPARTMENT TO APPEAR BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 20
11:51:59 UNDER STAFF REPORTS TO DISCUSS THE DOCUMENT SUBMITTED BY THE
11:52:04 CITY OF TAMPA TO TAMPA BAY WATER DATED JANUARY 21st, 2020,
11:52:11 SPECIFICALLY THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO, AND EXPLAIN WHY STAFF
11:52:13 CHOSE TO STATE THAT THE CITY WILL NO LONGER BUY WATER FROM
11:52:16 TAMPA BAY WATER AND WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TAMPA
11:52:18 AUGMENTATION PROJECT WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
11:52:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS.
11:52:25 I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MOVE SOMETHING WITHOUT COUNCIL
11:52:28 APPROVAL, BUT THAT'S JUST MY STATEMENT.
11:52:30 LET ME SAY THAT FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT TAMPA BAY WATER AND
11:52:34 THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN ALL THE WAY
11:52:35 ACROSS AT 6 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
11:52:42 IN ESSENCE, CITY OF TAMPA HAS BOUGHT VERY LITTLE WATER FROM
11:52:45 TAMPA BAY WATER IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
11:52:47 THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE 82 MILLION GALLONS A DAY
11:52:50 PRODUCTIVITY PEAK THAT WE CAN'T BREAK, WE'LL BE BUYING WATER
11:52:54 FROM THE CITY OF -- THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL BE BUYING WATER
11:52:58 FROM TAMPA BAY WATER IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
11:53:01 HOWEVER, THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WATER CONSUMPTION USE FROM
11:53:05 TAMPA BAY WATER IS MINIMAL, UNDER 2% OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER
11:53:09 THE CITY USES ON A YEARLY BASIS.
11:53:12 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO CLARIFY THE MOTION, AND I CAN READ
11:53:14 IT AGAIN, IF YOU WANT.
11:53:16 ALL I'M ASKING TO DO IS COME BACK AND EXPLAIN WHY THEY SENT
11:53:19 A POLICY STATEMENT WITHOUT GETTING OUR APPROVAL ON IT.
11:53:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
11:53:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:53:24 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:53:26 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:53:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:29 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:53:29 FEBRUARY 20, UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
11:53:35 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:53:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
11:53:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
11:53:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL MEMBERS, ON FEBRUARY 27, I ASK FOR A
11:53:44 HUMAN TRAFFICKING WORKSHOP AT 9 A.M.
11:53:47 WHAT I AM ASKING FOR AND MAKING A MOTION IS THAT THIS ITEM
11:53:51 AGENDA BE MOVED TO THE FIRST ITEM AGENDA THAT DAY, BECAUSE
11:53:55 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC STAFF, TPD, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
11:53:59 AND ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE SO THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET IN,
11:54:03 HAVE THEIR REPORTS AND HAVE THEM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:54:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND SECOND
11:54:08 FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:54:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:54:10 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:54:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING FURTHERMORE, MR. CHAIR.
11:54:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:54:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF
11:54:18 FROM COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS TO APPEAR AND REPORT ON THE
11:54:20 THAN, TAMPA HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION
11:54:23 REGARDING THE DECLINE IN NEIGHBORHOOD PARTICIPATION AND THE
11:54:26 FUTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION.
11:54:26 REPORT AT THE REGULAR SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL ON
11:54:30 MARCH 5th, 2020.
11:54:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:54:34 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:54:35 >> SECOND.
11:54:36 >> ALL IN FAVOR?
11:54:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, I WASN'T HERE
11:54:41 LAST WEEK.
11:54:42 THE PASSING AWAY OF THE T.H.A.N. LEADERSHIP, ONE OF THE
11:54:45 INDIVIDUALS WHO WORKED VERY HARD NOT ONLY IN HIS OWN
11:54:48 NEIGHBORHOOD BUT TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER, MR. JERRY
11:54:52 FRANKHOUSER PASSED AWAY.
11:54:55 HE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL OF GREAT CHARACTER, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO
11:54:57 MIGHT HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THINGS THAN YOU HAD, BUT
11:55:00 ALWAYS RESPECTED THE RESULTS, WHETHER IT WAS POSITIVE OR
11:55:03 NEGATIVE, AND WORKED ON TO GET THINGS DONE.
11:55:07 IN PASSING, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE MISS JERRY.
11:55:09 WE MISS THE FAMILY, AND THEY ARE DOING WHAT HE'S DONE IN THE
11:55:12 PAST, MADE THE CITY OF TAMPA A MUCH BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
11:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:55:20 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ANYTHING ELSE?
11:55:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
11:55:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD.
11:55:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PASS THE GAVEL.
11:55:27 I HAVE A MEMO FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF HERE SETTING UP A
11:55:30 SPECIAL-CALLED WORKSHOP TO BE INTEGRATED INTO CURRENT
11:55:32 AGENDAS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF DEPARTMENTS AND THE MEMO,
11:55:37 I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE GOT IT.
11:55:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL THE BIG-SHOTS GET IT.
11:55:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL JUST READ IT.
11:55:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, IF YOU'D LIKE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE
11:55:46 COULD MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS IT BECAUSE
11:55:50 THERE IS A DECISION POINT THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE.
11:55:52 I COULD MAKE SURE EVERY MEMBER HAS IT BEFORE TONIGHT.
11:55:56 YOU CAN DISCUSS IT AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.
11:55:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL PHOTOCOPY THIS, READ IT TONIGHT
11:56:01 AND BETTER CLARIFICATION.
11:56:03 I'D LIKE TO FILE THIS FORM 8B REGARDING A VOTE FROM LAST
11:56:07 WEEK ON AN ITEM OF A CONFLICT.
11:56:11 I AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE TAMPA
11:56:13 THEATRE FOUNDATION, AND THERE WAS A PARCEL THAT WAS RIGHT
11:56:16 NEXT DOOR THAT HAD TO BE VOTED ON FOR VENDING AND WHATNOT.
11:56:22 I'M ABSTAINING TO ASSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING TO PREVENT ANY
11:56:28 POTENTIAL BIAS AND PREJUDICE BECAUSE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD
11:56:31 WERE OPPOSED TO THIS.
11:56:33 I DIDN'T THINK I COULD BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL BEING THAT I'M
11:56:37 LITERALLY STUCK IN THE MIDDLE.
11:56:38 I ABSTAINED FROM IT.
11:56:40 HERE IS THE FORM.
11:56:41 I VERIFIED WITH REBECCA KERT AND OUR LEGAL STAFF TO MAKE
11:56:45 SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE PROPERLY.
11:56:46 SO THAT'S IT.
11:56:47 MAY I HAVE A --
11:56:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:56:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:56:55 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:56:57 WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 5:01 P.M. THIS AFTERNOON.
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