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Tampa City Council
Thursday, February 6, 2020
9:00 a.m.



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09:02:58 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

09:03:00 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

09:03:02 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO

09:03:09 ORDER.

09:03:12 ALL RIGHT.

09:03:16 I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR THE INVOCATION.

09:03:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU

09:03:23 HAVE BEEN DOING, SIR.

09:03:30 THIS MORNING, I HAVE RABBI DEVORSKI, WHO WAS BORN IN

09:03:33 BROOKLYN AND MOVED TO TAMPA AND HIS PARENTS AND RAISED

09:03:33 IN TAMPA.

09:03:37 HE STUDIED AT THE HEBREW ACADEMY HIGH SCHOOL AFTER

09:03:41 WHICH HE STUDIED IN DETROIT AND PARIS.

09:03:48 HE CONCLUDED IN BROOKLYN AND SPENT ONE YEAR IN BUENOS

09:03:53 ARIES, ARGENTINA AND INTERN AND WORKED IN ISRAEL WITH

09:03:54 THE FAMED PROGRAM.

09:03:58 HE SPEAKS FIVE LANGUAGES INCLUDING FRENCH, SPANISH, AND

09:04:02 HEBREW.

09:04:06 HE BELIEVES THAT HIS COMMUNICATION IS THE GREATEST TOOL

09:04:09 IN SPIRITUAL AND HELPING PEOPLE CONNECT WITH EACH

09:04:09 OTHER.

09:04:10 RABBI.

09:04:13 >> PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, AND PLEASE REMAIN

09:04:16 STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WHICH WILL

09:04:21 FOLLOW.













09:04:25 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, LET US PRAY.

09:04:30 THE MASTER OF THE WORLD, LOOK FAVORABLY UPON THIS

09:04:32 COUNCIL, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

09:04:35 BLESS THEM WITH JUST LAWS OF WILL.

09:04:38 AND BLESS OUR DISTINGUISHED COUNCILMEMBERS AND THEIR

09:04:41 FAMILIES AND LET OUR COUNCIL REMEMBER THEY HAVE BEEN

09:04:44 CHOSEN BY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLACED THEIR

09:04:47 FAITH AND CONFIDENCE TO MAKE LAWS AND DECISIONS ON

09:04:49 BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR GREAT CITY.

09:04:54 LET US RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HOLD A GOD GIVEN OF THE ONE

09:05:00 OF SEVEN HEBREW LAWS GIVEN TO NOAH FOR A PEACEFUL AND

09:05:02 MORAL SATURDAY OF THE RULE OF LAW.

09:05:05 BLESS OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND

09:05:09 MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY THAT SACRIFICE FOR THE FREEDOMS

09:05:10 WE CHERISH.

09:05:13 PROTECT THEM AND BRING THEM SAFELY TO THEIR FAMILIES.

09:05:21 TODAY, WE CELEBRATE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDER OF

09:05:22 THE RABBI.

09:05:27 THE TRANSFORMATIVE SEARCH OF GOOD FOR KINDNESS AND

09:05:30 COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE.

09:05:34 4,000 BRANCHES IN 110 COUNTRIES CARRYING ON HIS HOLY

09:05:38 WORK TO HELP EACH HUMAN BEING TO LIFT THEIR LIFE TO THE

09:05:38 FULLEST POTENTIAL.

09:05:43 SO ON THIS DAY, LET EACH OF US RECOMMIT OURSELVES TO

09:05:49 BANISH HATE, BIGOTRY, RACISM IN ANY FORM.

09:05:52 LET US USE THE POWER OF SEARCH TO UNITE US AND NEVER

09:05:53 DIVIDE US.

09:05:58 WE KNOW THAT YOU, DEAR GOD, PROVIDE US FOR THE SPIRIT

09:06:02 TO CHOOSE AND BE MINDFUL OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR

09:06:02 ACTIONS.

09:06:06 WE FIND INHERENT GOOD IN EACH OTHER AND FOR EACH OTHER

09:06:10 TO FULFILL THE CHARGE OF THE ALMIGHTY TO PERFECT IN HIS

09:06:12 SOVEREIGNTY.

09:06:17 IN THIS WAY, WE WILL REPLACE REDEMPTION IN PLACE OF

09:06:19 DESPAIR AND HAPPINESS TO ALL WHO SEEK IT.

09:06:22 AND LET US SAY, AMEN.

09:06:40 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:06:42 >> ROLL CALL.

09:06:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:06:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:06:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:06:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:06:57 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES, INQUIRY TO SAY SOMETHING.

09:07:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE LOST A MEMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

09:07:03 AND I KNOW HOW THE COMMUNITY IS FEELING AT THIS

09:07:07 PARTICULAR POINT, HIS FAMILY, IN THE DANGER OF THE JOB.

09:07:10 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HIM SERVICE AND BRAVERY AND

09:07:12 JUST HAVE A QUICK MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE OFFICER WHO

09:07:14 IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

09:07:17 >> IF WE CAN HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE PLEASE FOR THE

09:07:21 STATE TROOPER.

09:07:25 [MOMENT OF SILENCE]

09:07:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

09:07:31 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:07:39 GOT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MIC.

09:07:45 APPROVAL TO THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.

09:07:50 MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:07:54 BEFORE WE GO TO THE CEREMONIAL.

09:07:57 COUNCILMAN HAD AN EMERGENCY AND HE WILL BE ABSENT

09:07:57 TODAY.

09:08:00 WE WILL BE BREAKING FOR LUNCH AT 11 A.M. TO ATTEND THE

09:08:03 FLORIDA STATE AFFAIR GOVERNOR LAUNCH AND RESUMING AT

09:08:04 1:30.

09:08:06 TODAY IS AN UNUSUAL COMPLICATED AGENDA.

09:08:11 THERE IS A LOT GOING ON AND ALL HIT AT ONCE.

09:08:12 COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

09:08:16 CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 83 TO

09:08:19 FEBRUARY 20TH, 2020?

09:08:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:08:23 >> A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:08:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:08:29 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:08:34 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAVE REQUESTED TO PULL NUMBER 31

09:08:37 AND 32.

09:08:41 MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

09:08:44 >>CLERK: MR. CHAIR, NUMBER 8, THEY REQUESTED A

09:08:46 CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 20.

09:08:50 >> A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 20 FOR ITEM NUMBER

09:08:50 8.

09:08:56 >> A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:09:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]

09:09:05 >> FEBRUARY 20 -- SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER 8.

09:09:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

09:09:12 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES MADE A MOTION FEBRUARY 20.

09:09:13 AND MIRANDA, SECOND.

09:09:17 AND MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 34 TO FEBRUARY 20.

09:09:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

09:09:22 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:09:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:09:28 ALL RIGHT.

09:09:31 THAT SETTLES THAT.

09:09:33 >> FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

09:09:35 ATU LOCAL 1464.

09:09:36 STEVEN SIMON.

09:10:13 ND COUNCILMAN GUDES WHO WILL BE PRESENTING THIS.

09:10:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND

09:10:18 DISTINGUISHED COUNCILMEMBERS.

09:10:22 THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, WHICH

09:10:25 IS AN HONOR FOR OUR COUNCIL AND THE CITY FOR THE GREAT

09:10:28 EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK AND THE ATU IS

09:10:30 WORKING WITH US ALL THE TIME.

09:10:36 THIS MORNING WE HAVE MISS LESLIE HANNON -- MY

09:10:36 APOLOGIES.

09:10:43 COME ON OVER, HERE.

09:10:45 KEEP OUR VOICE -- A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER.

09:10:48 ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, A COMMENDATION TO

09:10:51 PRESENT IN RECOGNIZE OF THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH

09:10:56 FOR YOUR EXCEPTIONAL EMPLOYMENT AND DUTY TO THE CITY OF

09:10:56 TAMPA.

09:10:59 YOU HAVE PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN ORGANIZING AND

09:11:01 MAINTAINING THE CITY'S INVENTORY.

09:11:04 IN THIS ROLE, YOU HELP TO INITIATE THE BAR CODE SCANNER

09:11:08 CONTROLLED AND FACILITATED IN THE COMPUTERIZED

09:11:10 MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

09:11:14 MOREOVER, YOU WILL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ASSIST THE

09:11:14 COLLEAGUES.

09:11:19 ONE OF THE CITY'S SECRET WEAPONS AND GREAT IMPACT ON

09:11:20 THE SERVICE THE CITY PROVIDES.

09:11:26 YOUR POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND YOUR ATTITUDE.

09:11:29 WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE YOU A MEMBER OF OUR WORK FORCE.

09:11:35 THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 6TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2020.

09:11:44 YOU ARE ALWAYS -- KNOWING PEOPLE GET THE BIG ACCOLADES,

09:11:48 BUT ALSO THOSE HIDDEN GEM WORKERS THAT ARE DOING EXTRA

09:11:51 THAT MAKE THINGS SO SPECIAL AND BRINGS ATTENTION TO

09:11:52 THINGS THAT NEED DETAIL TO THEM.

09:11:55 SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN BEING A

09:11:58 PART OF THIS CITY AND BEING ABLE TO BE A DRIVING FORCE

09:11:59 WITH US.

09:12:04 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:12:08 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:12:11 LES HAS ALWAYS BEEN QUICK TO HELP EVERYONE AT ANY TIME.

09:12:15 HE DOES SEVERAL KEY JOBS TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND HIS

09:12:16 NORMAL SCOPE OF DUTIES.

09:12:19 IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT, HE WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE LAB,

09:12:20 OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

09:12:24 IF A TRUCK SHOWS UP AND NEEDS UNLOADING, HE NEEDS A

09:12:25 HAND UNLOADING.

09:12:29 IF THERE IS TRAINING THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN, LES IS

09:12:31 ALWAYS EAGER TO HELP EMPLOYEES AND MENTOR THEM.

09:12:33 HE IS ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND GIVES TO CHARITIES

09:12:36 INCLUDING THE UNITED WAY.

09:12:41 LES HAS BEEN AN ACTIVE UNION SUPPORTER HIS WHOLE CAREER

09:12:47 AND ACTIVELY RECRUITS EMPLOYEES INTO THE ATU.

09:12:48 >> ATU LOCAL 1464.

09:12:52 >> WE APPRECIATE HIS CONTRIBUTIONS AND KEEPING THE CITY

09:12:53 OF TAMPA RUNNING.

09:12:56 ON THAT NOTE I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH FROM THE

09:12:57 LOCAL WITH A GIFT CARD.

09:12:59 CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

09:13:05 [APPLAUSE]

09:13:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE SOME MORE STUFF.

09:13:12 >> WE HAVE SOME THINGS HERE.

09:13:13 LET'S SEE.

09:13:17 WE HAVE GOT -- LET'S SEE, WE HAVE GOT SOME CHOCOLATE

09:13:18 CHIP COOKIES HERE.

09:13:19 BUT I ATE ONE OF THEM.

09:13:19 [ LAUGHTER ]

09:13:23 NOT REALLY.

09:13:26 THAT IS FROM THE DOUBLETREE AND THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING

09:13:30 YOU WITH A WEEKEND STAY SO YOU CAN ENJOY BREAKFAST AT

09:13:32 THE DOUBLETREE.

09:13:37 ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS AND ADVENTURE ISLAND, A GIFT

09:13:40 CERTIFICATE SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OUT THERE AND

09:13:45 STAY AT BUSCH GARDENS AND HAVE SOME FUN.

09:13:50 ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE, A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY

09:13:51 YOURSELF FOR LUNCH AND DINNER.

09:13:56 ON BEHALF OF THE PRESTIGE PORTRAITS, PROVIDING YOU WITH

09:13:59 A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY PORTRAITS HOME.

09:14:03 ON BEHALF OF THE RESTAURANT GROUP ENJOY YOURSELF,

09:14:05 BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER.

09:14:06 >> WOW.

09:14:08 [LAUGHTER]

09:14:10 >> YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE AN ENJOYABLE WEEKEND.

09:14:13 CONGRATULATIONS, AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE

09:14:13 CITY.

09:14:16 AND AS THE COUNCILMAN SAYS, IT IS THE BACKBONE OF THE

09:14:19 CITY THAT MAKES THINGS WORK.

09:14:21 AND THE LEADER THAT'S HELP IT COME TO FRUITION.

09:14:23 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION.

09:14:26 >> THANK YOU.

09:14:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A FEW MORE PEOPLE.

09:14:28 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:14:29 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:14:31 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THE CITY AND ALL YOU TO

09:14:33 DO KEEP US RUNNING.

09:14:37 I AM DONNA MCBRIDE FROM THE STRAZ CENTER.

09:14:41 AND TWO TICKETS OF THE UPCOMING PRODUCTION OF "PIRATE

09:14:42 OF PENZANCE."

09:14:46 PLEASE ENJOY.

09:14:54 >> GOOD MORNING, MIKE MCARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.

09:14:56 THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE OF IT, I UNDERSTAND AND FEEL

09:14:57 YOUR HEADACHE.

09:15:00 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU A $50 AMAZON GIFT

09:15:01 CARD.

09:15:03 HOPE THAT HELPS TO GET YOU SOME THINGS AND

09:15:05 CONGRATULATIONS WELL-DONE.

09:15:14 [APPLAUSE]

09:15:15 >> YOU WANT TO COMMENT?

09:15:15 NO?

09:15:16 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:15:18 APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

09:15:21 YOU HELP KEEP THE CITY RUNNING, ALL OF YOU.

09:15:24 AND WE APPRECIATE YOU EACH AND EVERY DAY BECAUSE MANY

09:15:27 OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT -- HOW HARD THEY WORK, THE

09:15:30 SACRIFICE AND THE DEDICATION TO THE CITY.

09:15:34 IT REALLY IS A BIG FAMILY AND YOU ALWAYS HERE FOR US

09:15:36 AND WE HOPE TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU.

09:15:39 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

09:15:40 NO?

09:15:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE OTHER THING.

09:15:42 THE POSITION IN PUBLIC SERVICE.

09:15:46 YOU WHAT GUYS DO AT THE ATU IS UNBELIEVABLE.

09:15:49 THE MIND SET OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, INCLUDING ALL OF

09:15:52 THE CITY OF TAMPA PUT SOMETHING ON THE STREET, IT IS

09:15:54 SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM ONCE THEY PUT IT THERE.

09:15:56 BUT THAT IS OUR PROBLEM.

09:15:59 THE WORK YOU GUYS DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT BOTH MEN AND

09:16:01 WOMEN OF THE DIVISION THAT THE CITY HAS IS COMPLETELY

09:16:02 UNBELIEVABLE.

09:16:04 BUT WHAT GUYS TO DO AFTER GASPARILLA IS COMPLETELY

09:16:06 UNBELIEVABLE.

09:16:10 THE HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION TO KEEP THE CITY CLEAN

09:16:12 AND VIABLE IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS

09:16:14 TO COME AND LIVE IN TAMPA.

09:16:17 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

09:16:24 >> THANK YOU.

09:16:35 TAKE A PHOTO.

09:16:42 >> THANK YOU VERY OF AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

09:16:43 SECOND ITEM --

09:16:43 [APPLAUSE]

09:16:49 SECOND ITEM WE HAVE IS A COMMENDATION FROM COUNCILMAN

09:16:54 MIRANDA TO BE PRESENTED TO SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY

09:16:56 ATTORNEY REBECCA KERT FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

09:17:00 I KNOW REBECCA HAS MANY FANS AND FRIENDS HERE IN

09:17:06 AUDIENCE, AND HERE SHE IS.

09:17:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CHANGED MY MIND.

09:17:11 [ LAUGHTER ]

09:17:18 >> SHE HAS TO STAY NOW.

09:17:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE

09:17:24 MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

09:17:27 WE SEE REBECCA HERE VERY OFTEN, AND THE VOID IS GOING

09:17:33 TO BE LEFT IS -- ONE OF THE DECISIONS SHE MADE TO DO

09:17:35 SOMETHING ELSE, AND I DON'T BLAME HER IN A WAY.

09:17:38 REBECCA IS ONE OF THE FEW ALTHOUGH MANY, MANY HAVE COME

09:17:41 HERE BEFORE WOULD GIVE US ADVICE, BUT WHEN REBECCA

09:17:43 SPEAKS, EVERYONE LISTENS.

09:17:46 SHE IS LIKE EF HUTTON.

09:17:49 AND YOU MAKE THESE THINGS UNDERSTANDABLE.

09:17:52 YOU SPEAK IN A LANGUAGE NOT IN A LEGAL LANGUAGE, BUT

09:17:56 YOU SPEAK IN A LANGUAGE OF EARTH THAT THE PEOPLE BEHIND

09:17:59 US AND IN THE AUDIENCE AND IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE

09:18:01 COUNCIL WILL UNDERSTAND AND HOPEFULLY THEY FOLLOW WHAT

09:18:05 YOU SAY AT TIMES.

09:18:08 BUT I JUST WANT TO READ A COUPLE OF THINGS, BECAUSE IT

09:18:13 IS VERY DIFFICULT TO LEAVE THE CITY WITH A VOID THAT

09:18:14 REBECCA IS LEAVING.

09:18:17 SHE IS AN OUTSTANDING ATTORNEY.

09:18:21 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER FUTURE PLANS ARE, BUT IF SHE

09:18:24 GOES TO ANY LAW FIRM, THEY WILL HIRE SOMEBODY WHO IS

09:18:26 ABLE, CAPABLE AND WILLING TO DO THE JOB.

09:18:29 SHE IS LIKE YESTERDAY, TODAY, TOMORROW AND FOREVER.

09:18:31 YOU ARE ALWAYS DOING THE JOB THAT IS NEEDED AT THE

09:18:31 TIME.

09:18:33 YOU DON'T RAISE YOUR VOICE.

09:18:34 YOU GIVE THE EXPLANATION.

09:18:37 AND YOU HOPEFULLY -- IT RESONATES WHOEVER YOU ARE

09:18:39 SPEAKING TO AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE

09:18:40 DONE FOR THE CITY.

09:18:42 I KNOW THAT I LISTEN TO YOU.

09:18:46 I HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY, BUT I LISTEN TO YOU.

09:18:47 AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

09:18:51 IN RECOGNITION OF REBECCA KERT, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY

09:18:54 ATTORNEY FROM HER RETIREMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, HER

09:18:56 LOYALTY, DEVOTION TO THIS COMMUNITY SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR

09:18:58 ALL OF US TO EMULATE.

09:19:02 YOU KNOW, SHE HAS BEEN WITH US A LITTLE OVER -- WHAT,

09:19:04 15 YEARS?

09:19:06 >>REBECCA KERT: 14 AND A HALF.

09:19:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHE EVEN CORRECTED ME THERE.

09:19:09 I TELL YOU.

09:19:11 THESE THINGS GET HARDER AND HARDER TO DO.

09:19:15 BUT YOUR COUNTLESS EFFORTS IN MARINE LIFE AND THE

09:19:20 ENVIRONMENT AND THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT WE HEAR, BUT

09:19:21 SOME PEOPLE DO THEM.

09:19:24 AND YOU ARE ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT IT, LISTENS, AND DOES

09:19:25 WHAT YOU SPEAK.

09:19:28 AND I REALLY ADMIRE YOU FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, YOUR

09:19:31 EXPERIENCE AND YOUR GUIDANCE TO THOSE WHO WANT TO

09:19:32 LISTEN.

09:19:36 TOO OFTEN WHEN YOU SPEAK, SOME LISTEN AND SOME DON'T,

09:19:39 BUT NOT YOU, ALL OF US.

09:19:40 ALL HUMANS ARE THE SAME.

09:19:41 WE TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, WE TALK ABOUT DOING

09:19:45 THINGS, AND YET WE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING.

09:19:47 AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY.

09:19:52 MY HONOR TO -- WITH MIXED EMOTIONS BY THE WAY -- WITH

09:19:55 VERY MIXED EMOTIONS TO GIVE YOU THIS COMMENDATION.

09:19:58 I WISH I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT BUT MY DUTY AND THE

09:20:01 COUNCIL'S DUTY TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE

09:20:02 WITH YOUR HARD WORK.

09:20:05 YOU ARE NOT A 9 TO 5 PERSON.

09:20:07 AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA

09:20:11 AND WE WISH YOU GOD SPEED WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT

09:20:12 TO DO.

09:20:20 [APPLAUSE]

09:20:22 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, I JUST --

09:20:25 >> WE HAVE SOMEONE COMING UP HERE.

09:20:27 >>REBECCA KERT: THAT IS SO SWEET.

09:20:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS NOT FOR MY FUNERAL, IS IT?

09:20:34 I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

09:20:37 >> ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I WILL BE ABLE TO OVERRIDE

09:20:37 REBECCA.

09:20:40 ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING SHE HAS DONE AND MY

09:20:42 CLIENTS DO AS WELL.

09:20:45 SHE HAS BEEN HERE AND HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER TIME.

09:20:48 AND WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY

09:20:50 STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HONEST.

09:20:52 SHE IS A NEW MOM.

09:20:55 SO PRESTIGE PORTRAIT WILL PROVIDE HER WITH A GIFT

09:21:00 PACKET TO HAVE HER PORTRAITS TAKEN ON BEHALF OF YUMMY

09:21:02 HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.

09:21:06 A GIFT CERTIFICATE SHE CAN GO AND I AM SURE ALL THE

09:21:08 OTHER CITY ATTORNEYS WILL TRY TO JOIN HER.

09:21:11 BUT SHE HAS SOME VERY SPECIAL FRIENDS THAT CAN'T BE

09:21:12 HERE TODAY.

09:21:15 AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT ON THE OVERHEAD SO YOU CAN

09:21:20 SEE IT.

09:21:20 [LAUGHTER]

09:21:23 SHE WAS A GREAT DEFENDER OF MANATEES.

09:21:26 SO THEY ARE GOING -- THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE HER TO

09:21:31 DINNER AT FORBICI.

09:21:33 CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU

09:21:35 DO.

09:21:39 [APPLAUSE]

09:21:39 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU.

09:21:43 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS AN HONOR TO WORK WITH

09:21:46 EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE A

09:21:47 JOB THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVED FOR 14 YEARS.

09:21:48 THANK YOU.

09:21:52 >> ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS MAKE COMMENTS?

09:21:55 COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:21:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS KERT, IN THE YEARS BEFORE I GOT

09:22:01 HERE AND WHERE I AM, I SPOKE WITH YOU.

09:22:02 I LEARNED FROM YOU.

09:22:05 AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE CITY.

09:22:09 AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TEACHING ME AND HELPING ME

09:22:11 ACHIEVE THIS GOAL.

09:22:15 YOU ARE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED ME GET HERE AND I

09:22:17 WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL.

09:22:20 THANK YOU, MISS KERT.

09:22:22 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:22:23 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

09:22:25 IT IS HARD TO SAY GOODBYE.

09:22:29 THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS AND YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.

09:22:35 YOU KNOW, I WAS A NEWBIE.

09:22:38 I THOUGHT I KNEW A LOT COMING IN AND YOU HAND-HELD US

09:22:42 WITH GREAT CARE TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOWED THE LAW IN A

09:22:43 WAY THAT HELPED US LEARN.

09:22:46 YOU WEREN'T CONDESCENDING AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT A LAWYER

09:22:47 TO BE.

09:22:50 BUT WE MISSED YOU WHEN YOU WERE OUT WITH THE BABY AND

09:22:52 WE WILL MISS YOU EVEN MORE NOW.

09:22:54 AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US OUT OF TROUBLE OVER THE

09:22:55 LAST FEW MONTHS.

09:22:58 THE ONE THING THAT I WILL MISS THE MOST IS -- AND ONE

09:23:01 THING THAT IS KIND OF UNIQUE ABOUT YOU, IS I CAN ALWAYS

09:23:05 TELL WHEN I WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER WE WERE OFF TRACK OR

09:23:05 NOT.

09:23:08 ALL I HAD TO DO WAS LOOK AT YOUR FACE.

09:23:11 IF YOU HAD A FROWN ON YOUR FACE, I KNEW WE SHOULDN'T

09:23:13 TALK ABOUT WHATEVER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

09:23:16 I WILL MISS THAT AND HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND THAT AGAIN.

09:23:18 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND DEDICATION IN

09:23:19 THE CITY.

09:23:21 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:23:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:23:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN'T GET AWAY THAT EASY.

09:23:30 REBECCA, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND FINEST

09:23:36 ATTRIBUTES IN A GREAT ATTORNEY LIKE YOURSELF IS TO BE

09:23:40 WILLING AND ABLE TO TELL YOUR CLIENT THE TRUTH.

09:23:42 AND YOU DO THAT.

09:23:42 YOU DO THAT.

09:23:47 YOU DO THAT TO PROTECT THE CITY AND TO PROTECT US.

09:23:52 AND AS AN ATTORNEY, I KNOW -- YOU KNOW, WE BUTTED HEADS

09:23:52 ON CAMERA.

09:23:57 WE BUTTED HEADS OFF CAMERA AND I ALWAYS KNEW WHERE YOUR

09:24:01 HEART WAS, I ALWAYS KNEW WHERE YOUR MIND WAS.

09:24:05 OFF GREAT MIND AND AS CHARLIE SAID YOU HAVE A GREAT

09:24:07 FUTURE AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.

09:24:11 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:24:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SHORT TIME I HAVE KNOWN YOU,

09:24:15 EVERY TIME I ASKED YOU TO DO SOMETHING, YOU CAME

09:24:17 THROUGH FOR ME.

09:24:21 YOU DIDN'T COME BACK -- YOU DIDN'T SAY NO, BUT YOU DID

09:24:24 COME BACK AND TELL ME WHAT WE CAN.

09:24:28 AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HEARTFELT THAT IS FOR ME,

09:24:31 FIGHTING OUT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND SAY WE CAN DO

09:24:32 THIS.

09:24:33 AND WE CAN'T DO THAT.

09:24:36 FOR ME IT WAS AN HONOR WORKING WITH YOU, MEETING YOU,

09:24:42 AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR BABY.

09:24:43 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU.

09:24:46 >> I HAVE BEEN JUST UNDER FIVE YEARS AND I THINK YOU

09:24:48 ARE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT I MET AND SAT DOWN

09:24:49 WITH.

09:24:52 THANK YOU FOR LAUGHING AT ALL MY RIDICULOUS JOKES.

09:24:54 I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THAT GREAT.

09:24:56 BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN VERY KIND TO ME.

09:24:59 YOU ALWAYS ANSWERED THE PHONE, ANSWERED THE QUESTION,

09:25:00 BEEN THERE FOR ME.

09:25:01 I WAS NEW.

09:25:05 I AM STILL NEW, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR FRIENDSHIP.

09:25:08 ALL MY FAVORITE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND I HAVEN'T BEEN

09:25:09 HERE THAT LONG.

09:25:12 WE WILL BE THINKING OF YOU AND WISHING YOU THE BEST IN

09:25:15 THE FUTURE AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

09:25:16 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

09:25:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY SECOND PRESENTATION AND WALK ON

09:25:21 IF I CAN.

09:25:26 >> THANK YOU.

09:25:31 [APPLAUSE]

09:25:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP TOWANDA

09:25:38 ANTHONY PLEASE.

09:25:44 YOU KNOW HERE WE HAVE TOWANDA ANTHONY, WHO WHEN SHE

09:25:46 SPOKE, EVERYBODY LISTENED ALSO.

09:25:51 SAY YOUR VOICE, FILE NUMBER 13 -- SAY THAT.

09:25:54 >>TOWANDA ANTHONY: GOOD MORNING, TOWANDA ANTHONY, LAND

09:25:59 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

09:26:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE NOT FREEZING UP ON ME.

09:26:04 HERE IS ONE WITH 14 YEARS OF SERVICE.

09:26:04 14.

09:26:06 THE OTHER IS 14 AND A HALF.

09:26:09 WHEN TOWANDA SPOKE, WOULD YOU COME UP AS A PLANNER.

09:26:13 AND I AM SITTING THERE AND SHE WOULD SAY NOW GO TO FILE

09:26:16 NUMBER 13 -- I WILL LISTEN TO THAT BECAUSE THAT VOICE

09:26:18 IS TELLING ME SOMETHING IMPORTANT AND SHE SPOKE WITH

09:26:21 SUCH -- WHEN YOU -- NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF SPORT YOU

09:26:23 PLAY WHOEVER YOU ARE AGAINST, YOU CAN TELL IF THEY ARE

09:26:26 POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING BECAUSE

09:26:28 THEY DON'T FEEL TOO COMFORTABLE.

09:26:32 PLAYING A BALL GAME AND CLEANING THE SAND AND DOESN'T

09:26:33 WANT TO THROW.

09:26:34 HE IS NERVOUS.

09:26:37 PLAYING FOOTBALL AND KEEP CALLING AUDIBLES.

09:26:38 WHAT GOING ON HERE.

09:26:39 WE ARE CONFUSED.

09:26:42 THE SAME THING IN SPORTS AS IT IS WORKING ON THE JOB.

09:26:48 AND WHEN TOWANDA CAME TO THIS DAIS, SHE WAS 110%

09:26:49 PARADE.

09:26:51 SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO KNOW ALL THE FILES.

09:26:53 MEMORIZED ALL THE NAMES.

09:26:55 MEMORIZED EVERYBODY WHO WERE TESTIFY.

09:26:58 THAT PERSON IS NOT HERE AND I SPOKE TO THAT PERSON THAT

09:27:00 TOLD ME THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.

09:27:01 AND I AM SAYING, WOW.

09:27:04 14 YEARS OF THAT SERVICE WITH DIGNITY.

09:27:05 WITH HONOR.

09:27:06 URBAN PLANNER 3.

09:27:10 AND THE CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO APPRECIATE AND DEDICATE

09:27:12 THE SERVICE THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAS DONE FOR US FOR

09:27:13 14 YEARS.

09:27:14 HERE IS THE THING THAT I LIKE.

09:27:18 YOU ARE CALM AND PROFESSIONAL DEMEANOR.

09:27:19 THAT IS YOU.

09:27:20 THAT IS NOT ME.

09:27:22 BUT YOU ARE VERY CALM.

09:27:24 AND VERY PROFESSIONAL.

09:27:30 AND YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPERTISE IN UNDERSTANDING LAND

09:27:34 DEVELOPMENT AND COORDINATION, THE LIAISON AND THE

09:27:35 ZONING MAGISTRATE.

09:27:36 YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH

09:27:38 DIGNITY AND HONOR.

09:27:41 AND I HAVE NEVER QUESTIONED YOU BECAUSE I HAD NO NEED

09:27:42 TO.

09:27:44 YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AT THE TIME.

09:27:47 YOU UNDERSTOOD THE FACTS THAT WERE BEFORE YOU.

09:27:50 AND THE PRESENTATION TO THE CITY WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND.

09:27:53 YOU ARE A FANTASTIC PERSON.

09:27:55 I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY.

09:27:57 THE COUNCIL APPRECIATES IT.

09:28:00 THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY APPRECIATES.

09:28:03 AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TELL SOMEBODY THEY WERE

09:28:05 WRONG WITHOUT TELLING THEM THEY WERE WRONG AND THEY

09:28:06 UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

09:28:08 NOW YOU ARE SMILING BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT IS TRUE.

09:28:11 AND THAT IS WHAT I APPRECIATE BUT.

09:28:14 YOUR SMILE, YOUR DEMEANOR AND THE WAY YOU MADE YOUR

09:28:15 PRESENTATION ON YOUR HEARING.

09:28:17 THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT YOU WERE LISTENING.

09:28:20 AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE,

09:28:23 TOWANDA, ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, MY PLEASURE

09:28:29 TO GIVE YOU A COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF YOUR 14 YEARS

09:28:29 OF SERVICE.

09:28:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:28:31 [APPLAUSE]

09:28:37 NOW LET'S HEAR THAT VOICE.

09:28:41 >>TOWANDA ANTHONY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, MR. MIRANDA.

09:28:49 IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK FOR THE CITY AND AS A

09:28:52 PUBLIC SERVANT.

09:28:54 >> HERE AGAIN AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE YOUR SPEECH.

09:28:57 TOWANDA HAS BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY AND ON

09:29:00 BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE AND PRESTIGE, WE ARE PROVIDING

09:29:03 YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE.

09:29:06 >>TOWANDA ANTHONY: THANK YOU.

09:29:12 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT.

09:29:14 BEING ABLE TO SECRETARY THE COMMUNITY.

09:29:17 SHE IS STANDING RIGHT HERE.

09:29:23 THE FIRST WOMAN BASEBALL COACH AT BELMONT HEIGHT LITTLE

09:29:25 LEAGUE AND SHE HAD ME WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS OUT IN THE

09:29:28 FIELD GIVING BACK.

09:29:31 AND I LEARNED AND A PART OF ME.

09:29:34 YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF ME.

09:29:36 I WILL BE SERVING IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY BUT I WILL

09:29:39 ALWAYS SERVE THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:29:42 [APPLAUSE]

09:29:45 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:29:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR A LONG TIME AND

09:29:51 I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ETHIC AND GOD BLESS YOU IN YOUR

09:29:52 FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

09:29:54 >> CONGRATULATIONS.

09:29:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:30:00 >> ANOTHER ONE MY TEACHERS ON VARIOUS REVIEW BOARDS.

09:30:03 I THANK YOU FOR THE EXPERIENCE YOU GAVE ME AND THE

09:30:08 WISDOM YOU GAVE FOR ME TO GET MERE.

09:30:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:30:11 >>TOWANDA ANTHONY: THANK YOU.

09:30:11 [APPLAUSE]

09:30:16 >> WE WILL NOW GO TO ANOTHER COMMENDATION FOR ANOTHER

09:30:21 GREAT INDIVIDUAL WHO SERVED OUR CITY SO WELL IS

09:30:34 CATHERINE COYLE.

09:30:36 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:30:41 IT IS MY HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US

09:30:46 TO HONOR MY GOOD FRIEND, CATHERINE COYLE.

09:30:50 LET ME READ THE COMMENDATION FIRST AND I WILL SAY A FEW

09:30:50 WORDS.

09:30:55 CATHERINE M. COYLE, IN RECOGNITION FROM PLANNING DESIGN

09:30:58 AND COORDINATION MANAGER ON YOUR RETIREMENT FROM THE

09:30:59 CITY OF TAMPA.

09:31:01 YOUR LOYALTY AND DEVOTION TO THE COMMUNITY SETS AN

09:31:03 EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF US TO EMULATE.

09:31:06 YOU PROUDLY SERVED THE CITY FOR 19 YEARS WITH

09:31:08 UNWAVERING PASSION AND DEDICATION.

09:31:12 A MENTOR AND FRIEND TO COLLEAGUES, PROFESSIONALS,

09:31:15 CITIZENS AND COUNCILMEMBERS HELPING ALL OF US TO

09:31:21 IMPROVE OUR KNOWLEDGE OF TAMPA'S EVER-CHANGING LAND

09:31:21 DEVELOPMENT CODE.

09:31:26 THROUGH YOUR TENURE, MAYORS GRECO, IORIO, BUCKHORN AND

09:31:29 CASTOR.

09:31:33 AND GUIDED CITY COUNCILMEMBERS HELPING MAKE SOUND

09:31:35 DECISIONS ON A MYRIAD OF ZONING ISSUES.

09:31:39 YOUR STELLAR EFFORTS AND UNWAVERING TENACITY OF

09:31:43 INNOVATIVE SYSTEMS THAT ARE USER-FRIENDLY AND EMPLOYEES

09:31:48 AND CITIZENS ALIKE TO READILY ACCESS INFORMATION HAVE

09:31:50 FACILITATED THE GROWTH AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE CITY.

09:31:53 IN YOUR SPARE TIME, UNDERTOOK THE LENGTHY AND

09:31:56 PAIN-STAKING PROCESS OF CREATING THE CITY'S FIRST

09:32:00 AWARD-WINNING FORM-BASED CODE FOR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS

09:32:04 FOLLOWED BY THE CRAFTING OF THE URBAN LAND DEVELOPMENT

09:32:06 CODE FOR DOWNTOWN AND SO MUCH MORE.

09:32:10 WE MOST ASSUREDLY FEEL THE LOSS OF YOUR EXPERIENCE AND

09:32:10 GUIDANCE.

09:32:14 WITH PRESSURE THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL PRESENTS

09:32:19 WITH YOU THIS WELL-EARNED COMMENDATION ON THE 6TH DAY

09:32:22 OF FEBRUARY, 2020.

09:32:28 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THANK YOU.

09:32:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A FEW WORDS OF MY OWN.

09:32:35 BOY, TODAY WE ARE EXPERIENCING A LOT OF -- A LOT OF

09:32:40 LOSS IN TERMS OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT FOLKS LIKE CATHY

09:32:44 AND THE OTHERS HAVE AND ARE GOING TO BE LEAVING, BUT I

09:32:47 STILL HAVE CATHY'S CELL PHONE NUMBER.

09:32:49 AND I WILL CALL YOU.

09:32:53 BUT CATHY, YOU AND I HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK

09:32:56 TOGETHER FOR EIGHT YEARS THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.

09:32:59 AND I THINK WE REALLY ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH TOGETHER.

09:33:02 AND I WATCHED YOU FROM AFAR FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS AS

09:33:06 YOU GREW AND THE CITY GREW, AND I KNEW THAT WHETHER OR

09:33:09 NOT YOU WERE STANDING HERE AT THE PODIUM OR SENDING

09:33:12 YOUR PEOPLE TO STAND HERE AT THE PODIUM, I KNEW THAT

09:33:13 YOU WERE THE COACH.

09:33:15 YOU WERE THE COACH IN THE BACKGROUND GUIDING -- GUIDING

09:33:19 OUR CITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE HEADED IN THE

09:33:19 RIGHT DIRECTION.

09:33:23 YOU ARE A FANTASTIC PLANNER AND A WONDERFUL PERSON AND

09:33:26 A GREAT MOM AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST NO MATTER

09:33:28 WHERE -- WHAT DO YOU.

09:33:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THANK YOU.

09:33:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE GOT FAMILY HERE?

09:33:37 >>CATHERINE COYLE: YES.

09:33:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COME ON UP.

09:33:44 >> ON BEHALF OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

09:33:48 I COULD GO ON AND ON WHAT CATHY HAS DONE FOR THE CITY

09:33:52 SO I WON'T ENUMERATE ALL OF THE THINGS AND ALL OF THE

09:33:54 DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE.

09:34:04 PRESTIGE PORTRAIT FOR A CERTIFICATE AND CHINA BISTRO

09:34:06 FOR LUNCH AND DINNER.

09:34:08 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:34:15 CATHY, ON BEHALF OF OUR DEPARTMENT WE CANNOT THANK YOU

09:34:18 ENOUGH FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR US OVER THE

09:34:18 YEARS.

09:34:21 I HAVE WORKED WITH CATHY SINCE I HAVE BEEN WITH THE

09:34:23 CITY OF TAMPA, AND I CAN SAY THIS IS THE

09:34:25 HARDEST-WORKING PERSON THAT I HAVE SEEN.

09:34:28 EVERY DAY I LEAVE IN THE EVENING SHE IS STILL HERE.

09:34:30 AND SHE IS HEARING IN THE MORNING WHEN YOU GET TO WORK

09:34:31 IN THE MORNING FIRST THING.

09:34:34 SHE HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL FOR THE CITY, FOR THE

09:34:35 CITIZENS OF THE CITY.

09:34:38 WE CAN NOT THANK YOU ENOUGH AND YOU WILL BE MISSED.

09:34:40 AND I, TOO, HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER.

09:34:42 ANSWER WHEN I CALL.

09:34:44 BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND I WILL MISS YOU.

09:34:45 THANK YOU.

09:34:46 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THANK YOU.

09:34:52 [APPLAUSE]

09:34:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CATHY, INTRODUCE THESE GUYS AND

09:34:58 THIS LITTLE ONE YOU CAN NOT DENY.

09:35:00 LOOK AT THAT FACE.

09:35:03 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

09:35:05 CATHERINE COYLE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

09:35:09 THIS IS MY LOVELY FAMILY, MY HUSBAND, TWO SONS AND

09:35:10 DAUGHTER, SADIE.

09:35:12 I REALLY DIDN'T THINK I WOULD GET EMOTIONAL.

09:35:14 I APOLOGIZE.

09:35:16 THERE ARE THREE WORDS BASICALLY THAT COME TO MIND AS I

09:35:18 CAME UP TO THIS DAY.

09:35:22 IT'S HUMBLE, FORTUNATE AND GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE TIME I

09:35:24 HAVE THAT SPENT THERE.

09:35:28 THE CITY HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT WITH ME.

09:35:30 AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

09:35:34 MY FAMILY BEHIND ME AS WELL AS THESE HERE THROUGH ALL

09:35:38 KINDS OF ILLNESSES AND FAMILY JOYS FROM OPPOSITE ENDS

09:35:39 OF THE SPECTRUM.

09:35:43 THE REALITY IS, I COULDN'T GET THIS COMMENDATION IF NOT

09:35:46 FOR THE STAFF IN THE AUDIENCE AND THE ONES BACK IN THE

09:35:50 OFFICE BECAUSE REALLY THEM THAT HELPED ME RISE AND BE A

09:35:52 BETTER PLANNER AND A BETTER MANAGER.

09:35:59 I DO HAVE A GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR THOM SNELLING GIVING

09:36:03 ME A CHANCE AT 26 YEARS OLD AND GLORIA MOREDA WHO CAN'T

09:36:07 BE HERE BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY SHE HAS A FEVER -- BUT

09:36:10 SHE IS WATCHING RIGHT NOW -- FOR MAKING ME A BETTER

09:36:13 PERSON AND I LOVE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM FOR THAT.

09:36:14 THANK YOU.

09:36:23 [APPLAUSE]

09:36:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CATHY, AGAIN, MY DAYS OF CODE

09:36:34 ENFORCEMENT TO BRB, YOU HAVE HELPED ME A LOT.

09:36:35 THANK YOU FOR THAT.

09:36:38 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:36:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS JOHN SAID, NEW PEOPLE -- WITH THE

09:36:45 NEW COUNCIL -- THEY ARE ALL GOING AWAY SO FAST.

09:36:48 BUT EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN THEIR TIME IT TO MOVE ON.

09:36:49 YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.

09:36:52 I KNOW HOW THAT MUST FEEL.

09:36:54 GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

09:36:55 >> ANYBODY ELSE?

09:36:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT

09:36:59 YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS.

09:37:01 LIFE IS GIVE AND TAKE.

09:37:03 YOU GAVE, AND WE TOOK YOUR ADVICE.

09:37:04 THANK YOU FOR ALL THE YEARS OF SERVICE.

09:37:07 APPRECIATE VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DILIGENT WORK.

09:37:10 >> AGAIN WHEN I STARTED HIRE YOU AND REBECCA KERT

09:37:14 SITTING SIDE BY SIDE IN ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS.

09:37:17 YOU ALWAYS -- YOU WELCOMED ME AND GUIDED ME, HELPED ME,

09:37:19 AND YOU WORK SO HARD.

09:37:20 IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

09:37:23 JUST AS IT WAS MENTIONED YOU ARE HERE LATE, EARLY.

09:37:27 YOU ARE COMPLETELY DEDICATED AND WE SINCERELY

09:37:28 APPRECIATE YOU.

09:37:34 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:37:34 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THANK YOU.

09:37:38 >> WE WILL SWITCH SOMETHING UP --

09:37:40 [APPLAUSE]

09:37:43 >> MOVE ITEM SIX UP.

09:37:47 COUNCILMAN GUDES WILL BE PRESENTING TO JAMES E. TOKLEY,

09:37:49 THE FIRST OFFICIAL POET LAUREATE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA

09:37:52 AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

09:38:17 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:38:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, GENTLEMEN, AT TIMES IN YOUR

09:38:27 LIFE YOU RUN ACROSS A PERSON WHO MENTORS YOU, GUIDES

09:38:32 YOU, AND PREPARES YOU FOR LIFE.

09:38:37 BACK IN 1990, I FOUND A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF MR.

09:38:37 JAMES E. TOKLEY.

09:38:42 THERE WERE SEVERAL MINORITIES THAT FOUND MR. TOKLEY.

09:38:46 MANY KNOW HIM AS THE POET LAUREATE OF TAMPA.

09:38:50 AND HE IS DIGNIFIED GENTLEMAN WHO HAS A SPECIAL GIFT.

09:38:53 AND PEOPLE HAVE USED HIM THROUGHOUT THE DECADES WITH

09:38:56 HIS GIFT, BUT I TELL YOU, THERE IS ANOTHER SPECIAL GIFT

09:39:00 THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT MR. TOKLEY, THAT OF

09:39:01 TEACHER, THAT MOTIVATOR.

09:39:05 WHEN THE CITY WAS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF HIRING

09:39:09 MINORITIES, MR. TOKLEY WAS THERE.

09:39:13 HE WAS THERE TO TEACH US WHEN WE SAY WE COULDN'T LEARN

09:39:15 AND WOULDN'T MAKE IT.

09:39:19 MR. TOKLEY WOULD GET UP EVERY MORNING AND BE AT THAT

09:39:23 ACADEMY MAKING SURE WE MADE IT.

09:39:28 YOU KNOW, I CAN -- I CAN NEVER REPAY YOU.

09:39:32 CAN I NEVER REPAY YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME.

09:39:35 LAST WEEK WHEN I SAW YOU -- I KNEW MY COLLEAGUE WAS

09:39:41 GOING TO HAVE YOU HERE, BUT WHEN I SAW YOU -- MY

09:39:46 DARKEST DAY, AND MY LIFE WAS HERE -- I KNOW IT IS -- I

09:39:49 TRULY MEANT THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU SHOW UP, YOU BRING A

09:39:55 SPIRITUAL UNDERTAKING INTO THE ROOM AND MAKE THE MIND

09:39:57 AND SOUL MOVE.

09:40:00 YOU MOVED ME WHEN YOU WERE HERE LAST WEEK.

09:40:03 AGAIN, I TOLD A LOT OF MY OLD FRIENDS THAT I HAD AN

09:40:06 OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING THAT I COULD NEVER

09:40:07 GIVE YOU.

09:40:10 MONEY CAN NEVER.

09:40:12 IF I HAD IT OVER AND OVER COULD NEVER REPLACE THE

09:40:14 THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME.

09:40:17 WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES AND

09:40:17 FRIENDS.

09:40:18 YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

09:40:21 YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

09:40:29 SO, GENTLEMEN, AT THIS TIME, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,

09:40:35 COMMENDATION PRESENTED TO JAMES E. TOKLEY, SR., SOMEONE

09:40:38 WHO I CALL MY SECOND FATHER, MENTOR, ADVISOR.

09:40:41 IN HONOR OF JAMES E. TOKLEY, KNOWN AS THE OFFICIAL POET

09:40:45 LAUREATE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

09:40:52 AND DISTINGUISHED AND OF POETRY THE MOST POWERFUL ART

09:40:56 OF LANGUAGE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED, WITH WRITING AND

09:41:03 ENTHUSIASM AND THROUGH YOUR WORDS, EMPOWER A GENERATION

09:41:07 WARMING THE HEARTS OF MANY -- THAT IS SO TRUE.

09:41:08 BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT

09:41:09 AND THE COMMUNITY.

09:41:12 YOUR INSTRUMENTAL IN CHANGING ATTITUDES, PROMOTING

09:41:15 DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IN THE WORKPLACE AND THE

09:41:17 COMMUNITY.

09:41:19 YOU ADVANCE THE CITY OF TAMPA BY BUILDING RESPECT AND

09:41:22 CHANGING BEHAVIORS BE THERE INCREASING COMMUNITY

09:41:25 AWARENESS AND SENSITIVITY.

09:41:27 YOU DEMONSTRATE YOURSELF TO BE A TRUE SERVANT OF THIS

09:41:33 COMMUNITY AND DO SO WITH GREAT GRACIOUS HEART.

09:41:37 WITH GREAT PLEASURE, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, PRESENT THIS

09:41:44 COMMENDATION OF 6TH OF FEBRUARY, 2020.

09:41:52 [APPLAUSE]

09:41:59 >> OUT OF THE NIGHT -- BLACK AS THE FIFTH FROM POOR TO

09:42:04 POOR I THANK WHATEVER GOD MAY BE FOR MY CONQUERED SOUL.

09:42:11 IN THE FAIL CLUTCH OF CIRCUMSTANCE, I HAVE NOT WINCED

09:42:17 OR CRIED ALLOWED UNDER BLUDGEONS OF CHANCE MY HEAD IS

09:42:19 BLOODIED BUT BUN BOWED.

09:42:26 BEYOND THIS PLACE OF WRATH AND TEARS LOOMED BUT -- AND

09:42:33 YET THE MAN OF THE YEARS FINDS THE AFRAID FOR MATTERS

09:42:40 NOT OUR FAITH TO GAIT CHARGED WITH PUNISHMENT SCROLL.

09:42:47 I AM THE MASTER OF MY FATE, I AM CAPTAIN OF MY SOUL.

09:42:49 SOUND OFF, ONE, TWO.

09:42:51 SOUND OFF, THREE, FOUR.

09:42:56 BRING IT ON DOWN, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

09:42:58 ONE, TWO, --

09:43:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT.

09:43:08 [APPLAUSE]

09:43:13 >> FOR ALL THE YEARS OFF THIS ALLOWED ME TO SERVE YOU

09:43:20 WITH HONOR AND DIGNITY, I CAN ONLY SAY THANKS.

09:43:22 MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

09:43:25 MY FAMILY IS ALSO HERE.

09:43:31 MY BELOVED JOANNA, MY WIFE, FOR WHOM I COULD NOT DO NOT

09:43:34 WERE SHE NOT BY MY SIDE.

09:43:34 [APPLAUSE]

09:43:39 MY SON, CHUCKY.

09:43:45 MY GRANDSON AND HIS BEAUTIFUL WIFE, ABDUL.

09:43:49 AND VIVIAN -- I CALL HER KITTEN.

09:43:50 AND THEIR SON.

09:43:54 I WON'T SHARE HIS NICKNAME BECAUSE NOBODY LIKES HIS

09:43:56 NICKNAME BUT ME.

09:44:00 MY SISTER.

09:44:03 MY GODSON AND OTHERS.

09:44:05 AND MY NEPHEWS WHO ARE HERE.

09:44:08 AND ALL GOOD FRIENDS.

09:44:10 YOU ARE MY FAMILY.

09:44:13 AND MIKE -- AND MIKEY IS HERE?

09:44:17 EVERYBODY JUST STAND.

09:44:17 [APPLAUSE]

09:44:33 ORLANDO SAID HE COULD NOT -- COULD NEVER REPAY ME FOR

09:44:35 WHAT WE DID.

09:44:39 BUT I WANT TO TELL HIM BEING HERE STANDING BY MY SIDE

09:44:44 IS ALL THE REPAYMENTS I EVER NEED BECAUSE I SAW IN HIM

09:44:48 WHAT YOU SEE IN HIM NOW AND MORE TO COME.

09:44:50 I SAW A LIGHT.

09:44:51 HE IS A GREAT MAN.

09:44:54 AND YOU ALL ARE GREAT MEN AND WOMEN.

09:44:59 AND I THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM MY HEART FOR ALLOWING

09:45:08 ME TO REPRESENT YOU AROUND THE WORLD THIS

09:45:13 SHARECROPPER'S GRANDSON WHO HAPPENED TO LOVE POETRY.

09:45:18 SO WITHOUT SAYING TOO MUCH -- OH, AND MY DAUGHTER --

09:45:22 HOW CAN I -- PRINCESS.

09:45:22 [LAUGHTER]

09:45:25 PRINCESS -- I CALL HER PRINCESS LATOYA.

09:45:27 THE LOVE OF MY LIFE.

09:45:31 SO I HOPE I HAVE NOT MISSED ANYONE.

09:45:35 THANK YOU.

09:45:38 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:45:40 >> AND MY BROTHER -- SEE.

09:45:42 AND SHAWN IS HERE.

09:45:43 MY KIN BROTHER.

09:45:47 MY BABY BROTHER, WHO IS TALLER THAN ME.

09:45:49 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:45:53 >> AND SQUEAKY.

09:45:55 AND CAROLYN, YES.

09:45:59 AND GAIL.

09:46:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. TOKLEY, WE HAVE KNOWN EACH

09:46:04 OTHER A LONG TIME.

09:46:06 YOU KNOW MY BRIDE, LYNN.

09:46:08 AND WE BOTH LOVE YOU DEARLY.

09:46:12 I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE YOUR GREAT GRANDBABY OVER THERE.

09:46:14 >> GREAT GRANDSON.

09:46:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONGRATULATIONS, MAZELTOV.

09:46:20 >> MAZELTOV.

09:46:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHENEVER YOU CAME HERE AT COUNCIL

09:46:26 AND SAW YOU AT AN EVENT.

09:46:29 AND LIFE -- CHARLIE, YOU SAY THIS ALL THE TIME.

09:46:31 LIFE IS SO FAST NOW.

09:46:33 WE HAVE GOT OUR CELL PHONES AND WE HAVE GOT OUR

09:46:36 TECHNOLOGY AND EVERYTHING IS FAST, FAST, FAST.

09:46:38 WHERE CAN WE UBER AND ETC., ETC.

09:46:42 BUT WHEN YOU ARE INVOLVED THINGS SLOW DOWN.

09:46:44 AND IN A GOOD WAY.

09:46:49 THEY SLOW DOWN AND ALLOW US TIME TO THINK AND PONDER

09:46:52 AND WRESTLE WITH IN MANY WAYS THE MEANING OF IT ALL,

09:46:53 THE MEANING OF LIFE.

09:46:56 AND IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT.

09:47:00 AND WE NEED YOU TO CONTINUE ON FOR MANY, MANY YEARS

09:47:03 BECAUSE THE LESSONS THAT WE LEARN FROM YOU ARE

09:47:04 INVALUABLE.

09:47:06 WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:47:08 >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

09:47:12 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER -- SORRY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:47:15 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID SOME OF THIS LAST WEEK, BUT IT

09:47:16 IS WORTH REPEATING.

09:47:19 I MET YOU IN 1985 AS A -- YOU WERE MY ENGLISH PROFESSOR

09:47:21 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.

09:47:24 I STARTED OUT AS A POETRY MAJOR AND OVER THE YEARS YOU

09:47:28 BECAME ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INFLUENCERS OF MY

09:47:30 EARLY CAREER.

09:47:34 HELP WRITE ENGLISH WHICH IS NOW MY PROFESSION -- I

09:47:37 STILL WRITE SOME POETRY ON THE SIDE.

09:47:41 BUT YOU INSPIRED WITH YOUR SOARING RHETORIC,

09:47:42 PERSONALITY AND SMILE.

09:47:44 I LOVE SEEING IT AGAIN TODAY.

09:47:45 I CAN'T GET ENOUGH.

09:47:48 EVERY TIME YOU ARE ON -- YOU ARE READING POETRY ON TV

09:47:50 AND I HEAR YOUR VOICE, I ALWAYS HAVE TO STOP AND WATCH.

09:47:54 BUT THEN ALSO IN THE -- YOU ALL REMEMBER IN THE '80S,

09:47:57 RACE RELATIONS WEREN'T ALWAYS THAT GREAT.

09:48:00 AND HE TOOK OUR CLASS WHICH WAS ALMOST ALL WHITE KIDS

09:48:07 AND TOOK US TO BEULAH BAPTIST CHURCH AND HE DID

09:48:10 EVERYTHING HE COULD TO TEACH US ABOUT DIFFERENT

09:48:14 CULTURES AND DIVERSITY TRAINER AND I WORKED WITH HIM

09:48:16 OVER THE YEARS AND HE INSPIRED AND HELP PEOPLE

09:48:20 THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.

09:48:21 THANKS TO JOANNA.

09:48:25 I WORKED WITH HER DURING THE URBAN LEAGUE.

09:48:28 AS A POWER COUPLE, YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN YOU

09:48:31 WILL EVER GET CREDIT FOR IN THE COMMUNITY.

09:48:35 >> COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:48:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. TOKLEY, EVERY TIME WE

09:48:43 SAT DOWN AND DRANK COFFEE TOGETHER, I ALWAYS LISTENED

09:48:44 TO YOUR WISE WORDS.

09:48:48 AND ONE OF THE WORDS I LISTENED MOST WAS "BELIEVE."

09:48:51 WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE.

09:48:53 WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN ONE ANOTHER.

09:48:57 BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU ASKED ME TO BELIEVE IN

09:48:58 MYSELF.

09:49:02 MR. TOKLEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WISDOM AND I

09:49:04 WILL ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT.

09:49:05 THANK YOU.

09:49:06 >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:49:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. TOKLEY, APPRECIATE EVERYTHING

09:49:10 YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

09:49:14 SOME 40 YEARS DICK GRECO VOTED YOU THE FIRST POET

09:49:16 LAUREATE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:49:19 BUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT

09:49:21 THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND THE WHOLE WORLD LIKE

09:49:23 YOU SAY.

09:49:25 EVERYWHERE YOU WENT THEY KNEW WHERE YOU WERE AND THEY

09:49:26 KNEW WHO YOU REPRESENTED.

09:49:29 YOU WERE AN AMBASSADOR TO THE CITY OF TAMPA WITHOUT THE

09:49:31 NAME OF AMBASSADOR WITH IT.

09:49:34 AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN

09:49:37 SOMETHING WENT WRONG OR SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T LIKE, YOU

09:49:40 PICKED UP A PHONE AND CALLED.

09:49:41 EVERY COUNCILMAN.

09:49:45 AND YOU WERE THE UNAUTHORIZED AUTHORIZED PERSON WHO WAS

09:49:47 IN CHARGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:49:49 I REMEMBERED WHEN YOU LIVED.

09:49:51 BEEN THERE SO MANY TIME.

09:49:53 ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE JCC RIGHT BEHIND THE

09:49:54 BUILDING.

09:49:55 THE FIRST HOUSE.

09:49:57 AND I REMEMBER HOW YOU HELPED PEOPLE IN YOUR

09:49:58 NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:50:00 HOW YOU HELPED PEOPLE NOT ONLY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT

09:50:02 THROUGHOUT THE CITY ASIDE FROM BEING A POET LAUREATE.

09:50:05 AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.

09:50:07 YOUR CONTINUATION OF HELPING PEOPLE IS WHAT MADE THE

09:50:09 CITY OF TAMPA BETTER.

09:50:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:50:15 >> AND SIR, YOU ARE A LIVING LEGEND, AND I ENJOYED THE

09:50:18 BEAUTY OF YOUR WORDS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND HONORED

09:50:20 THAT YOU ARE HERE WITH US AND ALLOWING US AN

09:50:23 OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR YOU FOR SO MANY YEARS OF SERVICE.

09:50:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:50:26 >> THANK YOU.

09:50:30 [APPLAUSE]

09:50:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOU.

09:50:35 >> GIVE ME SOMETHING?

09:50:41 I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

09:50:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FAMILY, TAKE A PHOTO.

09:50:45 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:50:46 >> THANK YOU.

09:50:48 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:50:52 UP IN THE NEXT ITEM FLIP IT AROUND.

09:50:58 AND ITEM NUMBER 5.

09:51:01 A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES TO

09:51:06 HONOR THE SERVICE COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA.

09:51:59 WE WILL WAIT A MOMENT FOR THE ROOM TO CLEAR.

09:52:01 >> GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:52:06 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF

09:52:06 CITIES.

09:52:11 YOU MADE A GOOD JOB OF MAKING COMMENDATIONS.

09:52:15 LET'S SEE HOW YOU ARE IN GETTING ONE.

09:52:18 THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS AND THE CITY HAVE A

09:52:20 LONG HISTORY OF BEING TOGETHER.

09:52:22 WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP.

09:52:26 TODAY WE ARE HERE TO RECOGNIZE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL WHO

09:52:28 MADE SIGNIFICANT SACRIFICES.

09:52:31 YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY, I KNOW WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.

09:52:35 AND RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION OF

09:52:37 THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES,

09:52:41 INC. HONORING CHARLIE MIRANDA FOR 25 YEARS OF ELECTED

09:52:44 SERVICE AND PRESENTING HIM WITH THE JOHN LAND YEARS OF

09:52:47 SERVICE AWARD IN RECOGNITION OF HIS UNSELFISH

09:52:53 COMMITMENT TO MUNICIPAL LEADERSHIP IN GOVERNMENT.

09:52:57 WHEREAS AMERICAN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT HAVE RELIED OF

09:53:00 UNSELFISH CITIZENS FOR GOVERNMENT.

09:53:03 AND FLORIDA MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS IS THE TIME-HONORED

09:53:06 ROLE OF THE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE.

09:53:10 THIS RELIANCE PLACES EXTRAORDINARY RESPONSIBILITIES ON

09:53:15 CITIZEN LEGISLATURES, MUNICIPAL ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT

09:53:20 MAKE SACRIFICES OF THEIR TIME AND ENERGIES ON BEHALF OF

09:53:23 THEIR CITIZENRY OFTEN WITH LITTLE OR NO COMPENSATION

09:53:27 MAKING THIS COMMITMENT A TRUE LABOR OF LOVE.

09:53:31 WHEREAS, MUNICIPAL LEADERS STRIVE IN EXCELLENCE OF

09:53:34 THEIR CITY, TOWN AND VILLAGE AND COMMIT THEMSELVES TO

09:53:38 PROVIDING QUALITY SERVICES, GOVERNING EFFECTIVELY AND

09:53:40 IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

09:53:43 WHEREAS, THE LEAGUE HAS NAMED ITS YEARS OF SERVICE IN

09:53:46 RECOGNITION IN HONOR OF JOHN LAND, THE MAYOR OF APOPKA

09:53:49 BETWEEN THE YEARS 1949 AND 2014.

09:53:52 DID YOU KNOW JOHN?

09:53:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DID KNOW JOHN.

09:53:58 >> LEADER THAT WAS UNSURPASSED AT THE NATIONAL AND

09:54:02 STATE LEVELS AND MODELED THE WAY FOR MUNICIPAL LEADERS.

09:54:05 THE HIGHEST COMPLIMENT THAT VOTERS GIVE TO AN ELECTED

09:54:08 OFFICIAL AND WITH THAT EXPERIENCE COMES STRENGTHENING

09:54:11 OF WISDOM, DISCERNMENT AND STRONG LEADERSHIP SKILLS

09:54:15 THAT BRING TREMENDOUS VALUES TO THE GOVERNMENTS OF

09:54:16 FLORIDA.

09:54:19 WHEREAS, CHARLIE MIRANDA HAS HELD OFFER IN THE CITY OF

09:54:22 COMPANY FOR 25 YEARS AND IS RECOGNIZED FOR THIS

09:54:22 ACHIEVEMENT.

09:54:25 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF

09:54:30 DIRECTORS OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, INC. THAT

09:54:33 CHARLIE MIRANDA IS COMMENDED FOR HIS DEDICATION OF THE

09:54:38 CITY OF TAMPA AND RECOGNIZED AS AN OUTSTANDING PUBLIC

09:54:46 SERVANT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, FEBRUARY 6.

09:54:51 AND IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU.

09:54:51 [APPLAUSE]

09:54:55 THIS IS A LAPEL PIN.

09:54:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK YOU STAYED ALL.

09:55:00 I HAVE BEEN HERE HUNDREDS OF TIMES GIVING AWARDS TO

09:55:01 SOMEONE ELSE.

09:55:04 AND IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO RECEIVE ONE, BECAUSE WHEN

09:55:07 YOU DO IT, DO YOU IT FOR THE LOVE AND FOR THE NEED THAT

09:55:09 YOU WANT TO HELP SOMETHING.

09:55:12 AND YOU MAY ALWAYS -- WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE AND WHEN I

09:55:15 WAS CHAIRMAN, I USED TO TELL THEM ALL TODAY 50% OF YOU

09:55:16 WILL BE HAPPY.

09:55:19 50% OF YOU WILL NOT GOING TO BE SO HAPPY.

09:55:21 IF YOU COME BACK A MONTH LATER, THE ONES THAT WERE

09:55:24 HAPPY ARE COMING BACK UNHAPPY AND THE ONES THAT WERE

09:55:26 UNHAPPY COME BACK HAPPY.

09:55:29 SO WE DON'T -- AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE GET IT FROM

09:55:34 BOTH SIDES THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL YOU.

09:55:37 LEE DUNCAN IS THE ONE THAT GOT ME INVOLVED IN 1974 WITH

09:55:38 THE LEAGUE.

09:55:43 IN FACT THE CITY IN THE LEAGUE AND I BELIEVE IF I AM

09:55:46 CORRECT -- I NEVER CHECK THE RECORDS, 1970 SOMETHING

09:55:46 BEFORE NOW.

09:55:47 >> BEFORE THAT.

09:55:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.

09:55:54 THAT IS HOW LONG THE CITIES HAVE BEEN DOING TO HELP

09:55:54 PEOPLE.

09:55:57 PUT MY WIFE SHIRLEY, NEIGHBORHOOD, THE KIDS I PLAYED

09:55:59 WITH.

09:56:01 WE HAD ONE THING IN COMMON WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN

09:56:04 YBOR CITY AND THAT WAS THE SKATE PARK.

09:56:06 TWO HALL OF FAMERS.

09:56:08 AL LOPEZ AND TONY LA RUSSA.

09:56:12 YOU LOOK AT LIFE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS, IT ALWAYS

09:56:12 CHANGES.

09:56:16 IF IT WASN'T FOR THE SAVE OUR WORKERS, THE PEOPLE THAT

09:56:22 WORK, THE CONTINENTAL CAN AND ALUMINIUM.

09:56:23 I MAY NEVER BE HERE.

09:56:27 I APPRECIATE PEOPLE WHO VOTE AND IF THEY VOTE FOR ME OR

09:56:28 NOT TO VOTE.

09:56:31 THEY WENT TO VOTE AND THAT IS ALL IT IS ABOUT.

09:56:36 BACK IN THE '70S NOT THE WAY THAN THEY DO TODAY.

09:56:39 MORE PEOPLE VOTE PER CAPITA.

09:56:40 THAT'S A SHAME.

09:56:44 A SHAME WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY.

09:56:46 I AM NOT GOING TO GO THERE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

09:56:49 SHAME THAT WE HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AND WE ARE

09:56:50 SELF-CREATED BY THOSE PROBLEMS.

09:56:54 MY FATHER TOLD ME TWO THINGS WHEN GROWING UP.

09:56:57 GAVE ME A DIME WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS A HOTSHOT.

09:57:00 HE TOLD ME THIS, IF YOU GET IN TROUBLE, CALL SOMEBODY

09:57:00 ELSE.

09:57:03 HE NEVER FORGET THAT.

09:57:06 AND HE SAID SOMETHING ELSE, THIS COUNTRY IS TOO STRONG

09:57:08 TO BE DESTROYED FROM THE OUTSIDE.

09:57:10 IF IT FALLS, IT WILL BE FROM WITHIN.

09:57:12 AND I HOPE HE WAS WRONG.

09:57:15 BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS I NEVER ENVISIONED I WOULD BE

09:57:17 HERE THIS MANY TIMES.

09:57:24 I LIKE WHAT I DID FROM THE '70S FOURTH -- '79 AND THEN

09:57:26 HAD TO PUT THE KIDS TO SCHOOL AND LAW SCHOOL.

09:57:29 I WAS GONE FOR A LONG TIME TO MAKE A LIVING.

09:57:31 THANK GOD I WAS SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT AND FROM '95

09:57:35 ON, WE HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD.

09:57:38 YOU NEVER, NEVER SHOULD ANYONE THAT SEEK OFFICE SAY YOU

09:57:39 LOST AN ELECTION.

09:57:41 NOBODY LOSES AN ELECTION.

09:57:45 YOU JUST SOMETIMES DON'T GET ENOUGH VOTES.

09:57:48 BECAUSE WITH THAT IN MIND LIKE PITCHING A BALL GAME,

09:57:49 YOU CAN'T WIN THEM ALL.

09:57:53 NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, HOW LONG YOU DO IT, ONE DAY IN

09:57:57 YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ELECTED IF YOU KEEP

09:57:57 RUNNING.

09:58:00 AND I APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA FOR THE

09:58:02 OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE GIVEN ME TO SERVE.

09:58:05 AND I HOPE TO CONTINUE SERVE UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.

09:58:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:58:07 APPRECIATE IT.

09:58:14 [APPLAUSE]

09:58:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, YOU CAN'T GET AWAY

09:58:18 THAT EASY.

09:58:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS TRYING TO, JOHN.

09:58:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHARLIE, YOU AND I DON'T ALWAYS

09:58:25 AGREE BUT I THINK WE ALWAYS RESPECT EACH OTHER.

09:58:28 WE RESPECT EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS HARD

09:58:30 WORK AND THAT WE BOTH LOVE OUR CITY.

09:58:33 AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.

09:58:37 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID ABOUT 50% OF THE PEOPLE

09:58:38 ALWAYS BE UNHAPPY.

09:58:44 I GAVE DICK GRECO GIVE A SPEECH AND DICK -- HE IS SO

09:58:44 GREAT.

09:58:48 HE SAID -- HE SAID, YOU KNOW -- HE SAID IF WE PAVED THE

09:58:51 STREETS WITH GOLD, HE SAID SOME FOLKS WILL COMPLAIN

09:58:52 ABOUT THE GLARE.

09:58:56 SO I JUST -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS RATHER CLASSIC.

09:59:00 BUT ANYWAY, CHARLIE, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I APPRECIATE

09:59:03 THE FACT THAT YOU ARE -- YOU ARE HERE DAY IN AND DAY

09:59:06 OUT WORKING WITH US SIDE BY SIDE TO MAKE THIS A BETTER

09:59:07 CITY.

09:59:08 AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO.

09:59:09 THANK YOU.

09:59:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:59:13 >> ANYBODY ELSE?

09:59:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.

09:59:23 SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE -- AGAIN, THIS IS A DAY OF

09:59:24 TEACHERS.

09:59:25 THANK YOU FOR TEACHING ME.

09:59:28 THE GREAT STYLE OF BEING A GREAT COUNCILMAN.

09:59:30 I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE EVEN THOUGH YOU

09:59:31 DON'T KNOW YOU HAVE DONE IT.

09:59:33 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:59:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS KNOW I CALL

09:59:38 HIM A LEGEND.

09:59:42 HE HAS A CERTAIN STYLE AND STATURE THAT PEOPLE RESPECT

09:59:43 THAT.

09:59:43 THEY GET IT.

09:59:45 THEY UNDERSTAND IT.

09:59:48 SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME ALONG THE WAY

09:59:51 AT A PARTICULAR POINT IN MY CAREER.

09:59:55 I RESPECT YOU TREMENDOUSLY, AND I DO TAKE YOUR ADVICE.

09:59:55 SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

09:59:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY.

10:00:00 ORLANDO, AND I LOVE YOUR HAIRCUT.

10:00:02 [ LAUGHTER ]

10:00:05 >> WHEN I FIRST THOUGHT ABOUT RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL,

10:00:08 MY FATHER TOLD ME GO SEE CHARLIE MIRANDA.

10:00:11 I FOUND YOU AT YOUR -- ONE OF YOUR USUAL SPOTS AT THE

10:00:13 WEST TAMPA SANDWICH.

10:00:15 THERE YOU WERE AT YOUR USUAL TABLE.

10:00:19 AND I ASKED TO MEET WITH YOU, AND, OF COURSE, I WAS

10:00:19 NERVOUS.

10:00:21 I WAS MAYBE 22, 23 YEARS OLD.

10:00:25 YOU SAID WELL, IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ME, COME SEE ME

10:00:26 IN THE AUDIENCE.

10:00:28 WHO DO YOU CALL -- HE SAID I AM HEADING THERE RIGHT

10:00:29 NOW.

10:00:32 YOUR DOOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN.

10:00:34 YOU HAVE ALWAYS GAVE ME ADVICE.

10:00:38 YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE EARLY YEARS WHEN I WANTED TO RUN

10:00:42 AND HOW MUCH MONEY TO RAISE, WHO TO CALL AND WHAT NOT

10:00:45 AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATED THAT.

10:00:50 YEARS LATER I TALKED TO MAYOR DICK GRECO.

10:00:52 YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON MY FATHER TOLD ME TO GO SEE

10:00:55 AND YOU GAVE ME ADVICE RUNNING FOR THIS SEAT AND AN

10:00:57 HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU.

10:00:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TALKING ABOUT YOUR FAMILY.

10:01:03 ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS THAT YOUR FAMILY HAD WAS A

10:01:04 GRANDFATHER.

10:01:07 A HARD WORKER AND WORKED AT FASHION CRAFT, IF I

10:01:08 REMEMBER.

10:01:11 AND DID WORK IN ITALY AND COME BACK AND WAS A HECK OF A

10:01:12 GREAT GUY.

10:01:14 A WONDERFUL MAN AND A GREAT NEIGHBOR.

10:01:16 THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR EVERYTHING.

10:01:17 APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY.

10:01:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:01:21 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:01:24 [APPLAUSE]

10:01:27 >> NEXT UP WE GO TO NUMBER FOUR, CELESTE

10:01:31 GIBBONS-PEOPLES, PRESIDENT OF THE BLACK HISTORY

10:01:33 COMMITTEE TO APPEAR AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR CITY

10:01:36 OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROGRAM THAT WILL BE HELD

10:01:41 FEBRUARY 18.

10:01:43 >>CELESTE GIBBONS-PEOPLES: GOOD MORNING.

10:01:45 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE YOU

10:01:47 THIS MORNING.

10:01:50 JUST TO GIVE AN OFFICIAL INVITATION FOR EVERYONE FOR

10:01:51 OUR UPCOMING CELEBRATION.

10:01:53 AGAIN MY NAME IS CELESTE GIBBONS-PEOPLES.

10:01:56 I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK

10:01:57 HISTORY COMMITTEE.

10:02:01 I AM ALSO GOING ON 35-YEAR EMPLOYEE WITH THE CITY OF

10:02:05 TAMPA AND I AM A CERTIFIED PROCUREMENT ANALYST WITH THE

10:02:07 PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.

10:02:12 PROGRAM LIKE YOU SAID, COUNCILMAN, FEBRUARY 18 AT 11:00

10:02:17 AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER AND IN BALLROOM A AND B.

10:02:23 OUR THEME IS "UNCOMMON GROUND, OUR LAND, YOUR LAND."

10:02:30 AND LOCAL AUTHOR MR. URSULA ODOM AND MASTER OF

10:02:34 CEREMONIES IS LONG-TIME FRIEND MR. ROCK CARTER, THE

10:02:38 NEWS ANCHOR FOR CHANNEL 8.

10:02:42 PERFORMANCES WE WILL HAVE LOCKHART ELEMENTARY MAGNET

10:02:47 SCHOOL DRUM LINE, THE BRANDON HIGH SCHOOL AQUILA SHOW

10:02:51 CHOIR AND LOCAL R & B ARTIST KAY RENEE.

10:02:56 WE ALSO HAVE LIGHT REFRESHMENTS IN BALLROOM A WHERE WE

10:02:56 WILL HAVE VENDORS.

10:03:01 WE WILL HAVE SOME OF OUR SPONSORS WITH INFORMATION TO

10:03:01 SHARE.

10:03:05 SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER ALSO HAVE INFORMATION TO

10:03:09 SHARE AND SOME VENDORS THAT WILL HAVE ITEMS TO SELL

10:03:10 THAT DAY AS WELL.

10:03:14 WITH WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY COMES OUT TO ENJOY.

10:03:16 THE CELEBRATION IS ALWAYS FREE.

10:03:17 IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

10:03:20 WE ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT.

10:03:23 AND NOTED AS KIND OF AN HONOR TO BE HERE THIS MORNING

10:03:29 AS THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZED MR. TOKLEY AND HIS WIFE,

10:03:31 BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN LONG-TIME SUPPORTERS AND

10:03:33 PARTICIPANT IN PAST PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.

10:03:38 WE ARE GOING ON OUR 32ND YEAR WITH OUR CELEBRATION.

10:03:41 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AT THIS TIME IS HAVE SOME OF

10:03:43 THE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE RIGHT NOW TO INTRODUCE

10:03:46 THEMSELVES AND TO TELL YOU THE POSITIONS THAT THEY HOLD

10:03:51 WITH THE BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.

10:03:53 >> SHIRLEY FOX, CITY CLERK.

10:03:54 >> KATRINA HOUSE, VICE PRESIDENT.

10:03:58 >> WANDA THOMPSON, REAL ESTATE CONTRACT SPECIALIST

10:03:59 PARLIAMENTARY.

10:04:03 >> DEBBY MERCER, TREASURER AND CITY COUNCIL CITY CLERK

10:04:06 OFFICE.

10:04:08 >> PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND ASSISTANT

10:04:10 TREASURER.

10:04:13 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:04:16 >>CELESTE GIBBONS-PEOPLES: THANK YOU.

10:04:17 >> AGAIN THAT IS FEBRUARY 18.

10:04:20 IF YOU WERE INTERESTED, IT IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT

10:04:21 THEY HOLD EVERY YEAR.

10:04:22 ALL RIGHT.

10:04:25 PER REQUEST OF CHAIRMAN VIERA, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE

10:04:29 THAT IS GOING TO GIVE A THREE-MINUTE DISCUSSION ON AN

10:04:31 INITIATIVE THAT IS GETTING UNDER WAY IN OUR COMMUNITY

10:04:35 TO HELP YOUTH LEARN WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES

10:04:37 THAT AFFECT TOO MANY IN OUR COUNTRY.

10:04:43 THEY PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:04:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

10:04:48 AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

10:04:49 SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

10:04:51 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATION LIKE THE

10:04:57 CRISIS CENTER OF TAMPA BAY TO PUT OUR YOUTH WITH TAMPA

10:04:58 AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

10:05:01 THESE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WILL DISCUSS AND LEARN ABOUT

10:05:05 LIFE SAVING TOPICS OF SUICIDE PREVENTION, HEALTHY

10:05:07 RELATIONSHIPS, COPING SKILLS AND HELP OUR YOUTH

10:05:10 IDENTIFY LOCAL RESOURCES TO HELP SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE.

10:05:13 WE ARE EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS

10:05:13 PROGRAM.

10:05:17 GO AHEAD AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

10:05:19 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:05:25 I AM KATHY AGUIRRE WITH AETNA.

10:05:29 I AM A LEADER WORKING ON YOUTH IN THE AREA.

10:05:32 MENTAL HEALTH IS TOP OF MIND FOR EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.

10:05:34 EITHER WE EXPERIENCED IT OURSELF OR SOMEONE VERY NEAR

10:05:37 AND DEAR TO OURSELF HAVE EXPERIENCED EITHER DEPRESSION,

10:05:40 MENTAL HEALTH, POTENTIAL SUICIDE.

10:05:44 THIS IS A VERY VULNERABLE POPULATION.

10:05:50 WE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS TO REALLY SIT IN A

10:05:52 ROOM AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DO FOR THE CHILDREN OF

10:05:57 TAMPA BAY MARKET AND WHAT WE NOTICE IS WE LOOKED AT

10:05:59 SOME STATISTICS.

10:06:04 14.9% OF THE STUDENTS REPORTED BEING SUICIDAL.

10:06:09 14.6% ATTEMPTED TO COMMIT SUICIDE.

10:06:13 7.9% WERE SUCCESSFUL.

10:06:14 THESE ARE STAGGERING.

10:06:16 THIS IS SAD.

10:06:20 WHAT DO THESE CHILDREN NEED TO GET HELP?

10:06:24 MANY OF THE CHILDREN OUT THERE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO IF

10:06:26 THEY NEED SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO.

10:06:31 SO WHAT WE DID WAS, WE WENT OUT AND CONDUCTED FIVE

10:06:32 FOCUS GROUPS.

10:06:35 WE MET WITH 65 KIDS THAT ARE PART OF THE SCHOOL

10:06:36 DISTRICT.

10:06:41 WE IDENTIFIED WHAT THEY FELT MENTAL HEALTH MEANT.

10:06:45 AND GUESS WHAT, THESE CHILDREN KNEW WHAT MENTAL HEALTH

10:06:46 WAS.

10:06:49 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RESONATED IN OUR COMPLETING WAS

10:06:52 THEY WISHED THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IN SCHOOL AT

10:06:59 THE AGE OF EIGHT, NINE AND TEN ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH,

10:07:02 ABOUT ANXIETY, ABOUT DEPRESSION.

10:07:04 THEY FELT THEY COULD BE SCARRED FOR LIFE BECAUSE THEY

10:07:07 DIDN'T LEARN THOSE ITEMS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM AT A

10:07:09 FUNDAMENTAL AGE.

10:07:13 WHAT AETNA HAS DONE WITH THE INFLUENCERS IN YOUR MARKET

10:07:18 IS, PUT TOGETHER FOUR EMPOWERMENT DAYS.

10:07:21 WE ARE CALLING IT MENTAL HEALTH EMPOWERMENT.

10:07:23 WE KICK IT OFF AT MARCH 28.

10:07:26 WE BRING KIDS TO THE YMCA.

10:07:30 WE WILL HAVE FOUR SESSIONS WITH COUNSELORS FROM THE

10:07:35 CRISIS CENTER, FROM THE AETNA MENTAL HEALTH BEHAVIORAL

10:07:36 UNIT.

10:07:39 WE WILL HAVE KIDS THERE THAT ATTEMPTED TO COMMIT

10:07:41 SUICIDE AND FOUND HELP TO TELL THEIR STORY.

10:07:46 WE ARE LEADING THIS CHARGE TO CREATE AMBASSADORS OF

10:07:49 MENTAL HEALTH AND OUR HOPE AND GOAL IS TO TOUCH OVER

10:07:52 500 KIDS DURING THIS WORKSHOP.

10:07:57 ONCE THE KIDS COMPLETE THE WORKSHOP, THEY WILL BE

10:07:59 MENTAL HEALTH AMBASSADORS.

10:08:04 BE ABLE TO GET ON THEIR RESUME, BE ABLE TO GET

10:08:06 VOLUNTEER HOURS.

10:08:09 WE PLAN ON KICKING OFF A LARGE EVENT AT ONE OF THE

10:08:13 LOCAL VENUES WHERE THOSE AMBASSADORS CAN INVITE THEIR

10:08:17 FRIENDS AND HOPEFULLY HAVE OVER THOUSAND IN ATTENDANCE.

10:08:20 HOPE TO HAVE YOU THERE ON MARCH 28.

10:08:22 >> ANY COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

10:08:23 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS.

10:08:25 WE LIVE IN A CRAZY WORLD.

10:08:29 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY,

10:08:33 BUT SO IMPORTANT TO BE KIND AND PATIENT WITH OTHER

10:08:35 PEOPLE, TO LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T

10:08:37 KNOW WHAT SOMEONE IS STRUGGLING WITH.

10:08:41 SOMETIMES THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE IN THEIR ALONE TIME

10:08:42 THEMSELVES WHATEVER STRUGGLE THE MOST.

10:08:43 I HAVE SEEN IT.

10:08:47 I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE THAT YOU

10:08:52 THOUGHT THEY HAD EVERY GOING FOR THEM.

10:08:54 THEY HAD PLANS FOR THE WEEKEND AND YOU FIND THE FATHER

10:08:56 FOUND THEM, THE MOTHER FOUND THEM.

10:08:57 I CAN'T IMAGINE.

10:09:00 THE PAIN THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS TO DEAL WITH THAT

10:09:04 LEADS THEM TO THAT DECISION, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS

10:09:08 MENTAL HEALTH EMPOWERMENT DAY, YOU EDUCATE OTHERS.

10:09:12 YOU DO YOUR PART LITTLE BY LITTLE SO THAT OUR YOUTH AND

10:09:15 PEOPLE IN GENERAL BECAUSE BEING A TEENAGER IS NOT EASY.

10:09:19 IT IS SOMETIMES -- THE BIGGEST STRUGGLE IN ONE'S LIFE.

10:09:19 YOU ARE GROWING UP.

10:09:20 YOU HAVE BULLYING.

10:09:22 YOU HAVE PEER PRESSURE.

10:09:24 I HAVE WITNESSED IT.

10:09:27 AND I HAVE CHOSE NOT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH EVEN THOUGH

10:09:29 WE ALL HAVE OUR DARK TIMES.

10:09:32 BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.

10:09:36 AND NOT A TOPIC THAT WE SHOULD SHY AWAY FROM OR BE

10:09:38 EMBARRASSED TO TALK ABOUT.

10:09:39 WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

10:09:41 ESPECIALLY IN THE AGE SOCIAL MEDIA.

10:09:43 PEOPLE HIDING BEHIND COMPUTERS.

10:09:44 BULLY ING OTHER PEOPLE.

10:09:45 TALKING PEOPLE DOWN.

10:09:47 I SEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.

10:09:51 MY FEET IS POLITICAL, FIGHTING, CRITICIZING, JUDGING.

10:09:53 I LEARNED IT IS BEST NOT TO JUDGE.

10:09:55 WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

10:09:57 AND AT THE END OF THE DAY LIKE THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THE

10:10:01 KING AND THE -- AND THE WHATEVER -- WE ALL GO IN THE

10:10:03 SAME BOX, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE THE BEST OF THIS LIFE AND

10:10:05 BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER.

10:10:06 EDUCATE ONE ANOTHER.

10:10:07 BE THERE FOR ONE ANOTHER.

10:10:11 BE SUPPORTING, FORGIVING, UNDERSTANDING AND SO ON.

10:10:12 THANK YOU FOR THIS.

10:10:18 THE DAY IS SATURDAY MARCH 28, CORRECT?

10:10:20 >> THAT IS OUR FIRST KICKOFF DAY AND WE WILL HAVE THREE

10:10:22 OTHER SETTINGS.

10:10:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE LOCATION?

10:10:27 >> THE LOCATION FOR THE FIRST EVENT IS AT THE BOBSY ERA

10:10:29 FAMILY YMCA.

10:10:32 APRIL 18 IS THE SECOND EVENT AT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

10:10:33 COMMUNITY COLLEGE BRANDON.

10:10:39 MAY 2, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COLLEGE DALE MABRY.

10:10:41 AND MAY 16 USF ALUMNI.

10:10:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:10:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS

10:10:50 IMPORTANT ISSUE TO US.

10:10:54 GUDES AND I USED TO HANG OUT A LOT AT -- AS TEACHERS

10:10:58 AND SROS AT JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL AND WE KNOW

10:11:03 THOSE ARE TOUGH YEARS AND MUST ONLY BE EXACERBATED BY

10:11:05 SOCIAL MEDIA.

10:11:08 IF I GOT BULLIED IN JUNIOR HIGHWAY BACK WHEN, NOW

10:11:10 EVERYBODY COULD BULLY EVERYBODY ONLINE.

10:11:13 THAT IS REALLY PRETTY HORRIBLY SAD TO THINK ABOUT.

10:11:16 BUT I DID HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO WORK ON THE

10:11:19 PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

10:11:23 AND RECENTLY MISS HOLT AND OTHERS HAVE CREATED TEENAGED

10:11:28 MENTAL HEALTH UNIT TO HELP TEENAGERS WHO GET STUCK IN

10:11:30 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS.

10:11:34 AND BECAUSE THEY ARE SPECIAL NEEDS AND THEY HAVE TO BE

10:11:39 TREATED DIFFERENTLY AND WITH KINDER, GENTLER GLOVES

10:11:41 THAN THE MAINSTREAM KIDS.

10:11:44 ANYWAY, WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO AND LOOK FORWARD

10:11:46 TO YOUR EVENT.

10:11:47 THANK YOU.

10:11:48 >> THANK YOU.

10:11:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:11:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APOLOGIZE NOT BEING ABLE TO

10:11:55 ATTEND ANY OF YOUR FUNCTIONS.

10:11:59 AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

10:12:02 I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHY PEOPLE DO THINGS, BUT IN

10:12:05 TODAY'S STRESSFUL WORLD, IT IS BEING DONE MORE OFTEN

10:12:08 AND PRESSURE IS ON TO SUCCEED AND NOT TO LIVE.

10:12:10 YOU HAVE TO LIVE TO SUCCEED.

10:12:12 THANK YOU SO MUCH ON WHAT YOU DO.

10:12:13 >> THANK YOU.

10:12:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

10:12:17 OUR FINAL CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY AND PRESENTATION IS ITEM

10:12:18 NUMBER 7.

10:12:21 THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM HART TO PREPARE THE ARTERIAL

10:12:22 BRT STUDY.

10:12:24 AND THEN WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:12:27 WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY, BUT EVERYTHING CAME UP AT

10:12:30 ONCE TODAY.

10:12:37 >> GOOD MORNING, LORENA HARDWICK WITH HART.

10:12:38 GOVERNMENT RELATIONS WITH HART.

10:12:47 I HAVE OUR ILLUSTRIOUS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, A LADY OF

10:12:49 MANY TALENTS AND HATS.

10:12:51 MISS STEWART.

10:12:56 >> I AM CAROL STEWART, THE INTERIM MEMBER OF HART AND

10:13:00 THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE GIVEN BY

10:13:03 JUSTICE WILLIS AND THANK YOU FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE

10:13:07 LIAISON FOR PUTTING US ON THE AGENDA.

10:13:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS STEWART, THANK YOU FOR YOUR

10:13:09 SERVICE.

10:13:11 WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:13:21 >> I WILL MAKE THIS BRIEF AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT

10:13:21 YOU MAY HAVE.

10:13:26 IF YOU NEED ME TO SLOW DOWN OR INTERRUPT ME, THAT'S

10:13:26 FINE.

10:13:30 I KNOW YOU ARE ON A PRETTY TIGHT TIMELINE AND I WANT TO

10:13:30 RESPECT THAT.

10:13:33 JUST TO GET YOU UNDER WAY THE ARTERIAL BUS RAPID

10:13:35 TRANSIT STUDY.

10:13:38 I CAN'T QUITE SEE IT ON MY SCREEN AND I WILL HAVE TO

10:13:39 LOOK UP A BIT.

10:13:43 IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

10:13:47 THE PURPOSE OF THIS STUDY WAS TO IDENTIFY A CORRIDOR

10:13:54 USING SOME COMBINATION OF FLORIDA AVENUE, TAMPA STREET,

10:13:57 NEBRASKA AND FOWLER CORRIDORS.

10:13:59 A LONG IDENTIFIED TRANSITS MARKET WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC

10:14:03 BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS AND A LOT OF UTILIZATION OF THE

10:14:06 EXISTING SERVICES AND IDENTIFY NEED OF PREMIUM AND

10:14:08 DEDICATED GUIDEWAY SERVICE.

10:14:10 AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO WITH THIS

10:14:10 STUDY.

10:14:13 THE PRIMARY GOALS ARE TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND TRANSIT

10:14:17 OPERATING CONDITIONS, IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY TO THE

10:14:22 EAST-WEST ROUTES AND LOCAL TRANSIT ACCESS BETWEEN USF

10:14:25 AND DOWNTOWN INCLUDING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN

10:14:28 CONNECTIVITY AS WE ALL KNOW FAIRLY WELL THAT THOSE

10:14:31 SAFETY ISSUES FOR OUR CUSTOMERS ACCESSING OUR EXISTING

10:14:36 SERVICES ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE ADDRESS FOR OUR

10:14:38 COMMUNITY IN A WHOLE.

10:14:40 THE IDENTIFY TRANSIT NEEDS ARE TO EXPAND TRANSIT

10:14:44 OPTIONS FOR NEW AND EXISTING RIDERS, PROVIDE A BETTER

10:14:48 CONNECTION BETWEEN USF AND DOWNTOWN, AND AGAIN, SUPPORT

10:14:51 A PREMIUM TRANSIT SERVICE THAT IS LOOKING TO GET AS

10:14:55 MUCH OF A DEDICATED GUIDEWAY FOR THE BUS AND ITS OWN

10:14:59 LANE AND NOT IN MIXED TRAFFIC AND MORE PREDICTABLE,

10:15:03 RELIABLE TRAVEL TIME FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND CAN SUPPORT

10:15:06 LONG-TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH AND GET SOME OF THE MORE

10:15:08 DENSE DEVELOPMENT WE ARE SEEING THROUGHOUT TAMPA, WE

10:15:11 CAN REALLY SUPPORT THAT WITH TRANSIT AND NOT ASSUME ALL

10:15:14 OF THE TRIPS TO AND FROM THE LOCATIONS WILL BE MADE BY

10:15:18 AUTOMOBILE BY PROVIDING A REALLY ROBUST CONNECTION THAT

10:15:22 IS COMPETITIVE TO THE TRAVEL TIME OF AUTOMOBILE.

10:15:24 AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE STUDY, WE ARE GETTING

10:15:27 READY FOR OUR RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE WORKSHOP.

10:15:29 WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY ALIGNMENT THAT I AM ABOUT TO

10:15:32 DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WORKING TOWARD A MAJOR

10:15:34 DECISION THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AS STAFF AND

10:15:37 RECOMMEND TO OUR BOARD WHETHER OR NOT TO ENTER A

10:15:40 FEDERAL PROCESS OR DO A LOT OF SMALLER PROJECTS THAT

10:15:43 CAN ENHANCE THE EXISTING SERVICE.

10:15:46 WE ARE COORDINATING WITH MANY EFFORTS THAT YOU ARE

10:15:48 PROBABLY VERY WARE OF.

10:15:54 THE HEIGHTS MOBILITY STUDY DONE BY FDOT LOOKED AT

10:15:55 CONNECTION SOUTH OF THE RIVER AND NORTH OF THE

10:16:00 INTERSTATE FOR BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN, AND ALSO TRAFFIC

10:16:02 SAFETY MEASURES AND BUILDING OFF OF THE WORK THAT WAS

10:16:03 DONE THERE.

10:16:06 COORDINATING WITH THE TAMPA STREETCAR EXTENSION, THE

10:16:12 REGIONAL RAPID TRANSIT STUDY, THE FOWLER MOBILITY

10:16:18 STUDY, THE UNIVERSITY AREA MODAL CENTERS, AND DOWNTOWN

10:16:22 INTERMODAL CENTERS AND DOWNTOWN.

10:16:25 A LOT GOING ON IN THE CORRIDOR AND SPECIFIC TO THE

10:16:29 ARTERIAL ROADWAYS AND NOT THE INTERSTATE AS YOU MAY BE

10:16:31 FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT.

10:16:34 THE HEIGHTS MOBILITY STUDY HOW THIS RELATES TO THIS.

10:16:36 SEVERAL CONCEPTS THAT WERE MOVED FORWARD AT THE END OF

10:16:37 THE STUDY.

10:16:41 WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONCEPTS THAT SHOW A BUS IN

10:16:46 ITS OWN DEDICATED LANE FOR THE YELLOW PORTION OF THAT

10:16:48 CORRIDOR AND CONCEPTS THAT SHOW MIXED TRAFFIC OPERATION

10:16:52 ON THE NORTHERN SECTION THERE.

10:16:55 THE BUSINESS ACCESS AND TRANSIT IS BASICALLY CALLED A

10:16:59 BAT OR WHERE THE BUS OPERATES IN THE RIGHT FAR SIDE

10:17:00 LANE.

10:17:03 AND YOU ALLOW GENERAL TRAFFIC TO TURN THERE, BUT ANY

10:17:06 THRU MOVEMENTS NEED TO MOVE IN THE OTHER LANES SO THE

10:17:07 BUS KEEPS MOVING.

10:17:09 A LITTLE TERMINOLOGY THERE.

10:17:12 SO WE STARTED THE STUDY WITH 17 ALTERNATIVES THAT BEGAN

10:17:17 FROM DOWNTOWN OPERATING ON TAMPA AND FLORIDA CORRIDORS.

10:17:21 AND CROSSED OVER TO NEBRASKA AT 17 DIFFERENT POINTS ON

10:17:23 THE WAY TO FOWLER AVENUE.

10:17:27 OF THOSE 17, THREE REALLY ROSE TO THE TOP, PALM AVENUE,

10:17:30 WATERS AND LINEBAUGH.

10:17:34 A PALM WAS REMOVED DUE TO THE DUPLICATIVE NATURE OF THE

10:17:35 RAPID SERVICE.

10:17:38 WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE SECOND SCREENING WITH WATERS

10:17:43 AND LINEBAUGH AND I AM ABOUT BUT A BECOME -- ROSE TO

10:17:45 THE TOP BASED ON JUST THE DATA AND THEN WHEN WE WORKED

10:17:52 WITH THE STAFF AND CEO, WE KIND OF TOOK A STEP BACK

10:17:54 FROM THE DATA AND THOUGHT THIS ALIGNMENT MADE A LOT OF

10:17:57 SENSE BECAUSE IT HITS A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT

10:18:01 GENERATED EXISTING RELATIONSHIP AND GAVE AN --

10:18:03 RIDERSHIP AND GAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEDICATED

10:18:08 GUIDEWAY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE CORRIDOR.

10:18:12 TRAVELING NORTH FROM DOWNTOWN TO LINEBAUGH, NEBRASKA

10:18:16 AND REACHING FOWLER AVENUE, THE CONSERVATIVE IS 60%

10:18:18 DEDICATED GUIDEWAY.

10:18:21 IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE ONE-WAY ON TAMPA AND

10:18:25 FLORIDA STREETS, WE ARE ASSUMING WE WILL TAKES ONE OF

10:18:29 THE LANES MOST OF THE AWAY FROM GENERAL TRAFFIC AND

10:18:31 UNDER CAPACITY, 95% OF THE DAY.

10:18:36 SO WE ARE COMFORTABLE TRANSITIONING THAT TO A BUS-ONLY

10:18:41 OPERATION AND GIVE THAT VERY PREDICTABLE TRAVEL TIME

10:18:42 ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

10:18:44 THE REASON WE GO WITH THE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE AT THIS

10:18:48 POINT IS ONCE WE WORK THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS,

10:18:50 WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT UP AND REACH THE 75%

10:18:54 THRESHOLD IDENTIFIED IN THE TRANSPORTATION SURTAX

10:18:55 AMENDMENT.

10:18:58 BUT WE -- FOR THE FEDERAL PROCESS WE NEED TO STICK WITH

10:19:02 THE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE TO GET FURTHER DOWN THE LINE

10:19:04 AND BEEF THOSE NUMBERS UP.

10:19:08 THE LONG-TERM PREFERENCE FOR THE OPERATION WILL BE TO

10:19:10 GO FOR FOWLER AND THAT DIDN'T SCORE THE HIGHEST BECAUSE

10:19:13 OF THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE INTERCHANGE THAT WOULD

10:19:16 NEED TO OCCUR UP THERE TO GET A DEDICATED LANE

10:19:18 UNDERNEATH THE INTERSTATE.

10:19:22 SO THERE IS ALSO SOME LAND USE ISSUES NORTH OF

10:19:23 LINEBAUGH.

10:19:27 IT IS PRIMARILY HIGHER AUTOMOBILE RETAILERS THAT IS

10:19:30 UNLIKELY TO TURN OVER IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

10:19:34 AS WE GET THE LAND USE CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, WE WANT

10:19:38 TO ASPIRE TO A TRUE MAIN LINE HAUL ALL THE WAY TO

10:19:41 FOWLER BUT IN THE INTERIM LINEBAUGH IS THE

10:19:42 RECOMMENDATION OF OUR STAFF AND TEAM.

10:19:44 WE HAVE VARIOUS COMMITTEES.

10:19:48 THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEES INCLUDE AGENCIES AND

10:19:51 COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES FROM FOREST HILLS, TAMPA

10:19:55 HEIGHTS, THE HILLSBOROUGH MPO, CITIZENS ADVISORY

10:19:57 COMMITTEE AND DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS.

10:20:01 OUR TECHNICAL COMMITTEE IS PRIMARILY AGENCY FOLKS.

10:20:04 WE ARE WORK THROUGH THEM ON THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, THE

10:20:07 GEOMETRY OF CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS AND HOW WE WILL

10:20:10 ACTUALLY GET THE GUIDEWAY A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GET

10:20:15 THOSE NUMBERS UP WITHOUT IMPACTING GENERAL TRAFFIC TOO

10:20:16 MUCH.

10:20:19 DECEMBER 9, WE HAD A PUBLIC WORKSHOP.

10:20:22 COUPLE OF OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ATTENDED.

10:20:25 WE REVIEWED THE RECOMMENDED BRT ALIGNMENT, DISCUSSED

10:20:30 SOME ISSUES, TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE NEXT PHASE WHICH

10:20:33 IS THE NONMOTORIZED IMPROVEMENTS WHICH ARE THOSE

10:20:36 BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THAT'S WE NEED TO

10:20:39 MAKE SAFE HE FOR OUR -- SAFER FOR OUR EXISTING

10:20:43 CUSTOMERS AND HAD INFORMATION ON THE OTHER STUDIES I

10:20:44 MENTIONED EARLIER.

10:20:48 MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LAUNCHING OUR

10:20:50 PUBLIC OUTREACH SURVEY.

10:20:52 THERE IS A PHASE OF THIS PROJECT THAT IDENTIFIES

10:20:57 SUPPORTING TRANSIT AND NONMOTORIZED PROJECTS, I TOUCHED

10:20:59 ON THE LATTER OF THOSE TWO.

10:21:02 THE INTERSECTING ROUTES AND TRYING TO IMPROVE THOSE

10:21:05 SERVICES AS WELL SO THEY INTERACT AND THE TRANSFERS AN

10:21:08 EVERYTHING ARE A LOT MORE FLUID AND EASY FOR OUR

10:21:09 CUSTOMERS TO MAKE.

10:21:11 WE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IS A RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE

10:21:16 AND IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND HAVE OUR NEXT PUBLIC

10:21:19 WORKSHOP IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA ON FEBRUARY 22.

10:21:23 I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OR HAVE SOMEONE IN BEHALF

10:21:26 AND WE WILL START PHASE TWO AND WORK TOWARD MAKING THAT

10:21:30 BIG DECISION WHETHER TO GO FOR FEDERAL PROCESS OR DO A

10:21:33 LOT OF SMALLER PROCESS AND ENHANCE THE SERVICE AS IT

10:21:35 CURRENTLY EXISTS.

10:21:36 I BELIEVE THAT IS IT.

10:21:38 I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

10:21:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR BOARD MEMBERS?

10:21:42 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

10:21:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

10:21:48 AND TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE -- AND I STEPPED OUT FOR

10:21:49 ONE SECOND.

10:21:51 IF I MISSED IT, I APOLOGIZE.

10:21:52 THE GUIDEWAY.

10:21:57 CAN I VISUALIZE A GUIDEWAY IN THIS CONTEXT OF BRT?

10:21:59 IS QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

10:22:02 QUESTION NUMBER TWO, IF YOU SPOKE TO IT ALREADY, I

10:22:05 APOLOGIZE, WHAT WOULD THE FREQUENCY BE ANTICIPATED

10:22:10 ALONG THE WAY, YOU KNOW, IN EACH DIRECTION.

10:22:14 >> HOUR AT A -- AT LEAST 15 MINUTES OR MORE FREQUENT.

10:22:18 MAYBE TEN OR 12, BUT 15 IS OUR BASELINE FOR PLANNING

10:22:19 PURPOSES.

10:22:23 THE GUIDEWAY REALLY IS -- CAN BE DEFINED IN SEVERAL

10:22:27 WAYS, BUT GENERALLY A CORRIDOR THAT WILL NOT ALLOW

10:22:29 GENERAL TRAFFIC.

10:22:32 THE GUIDEWAY DEFINITION WILL STILL WORK IF YOU SAY YOU

10:22:35 HAVE SEVERAL BLOCKS OF ONLY BUS OPERATION, BUT THEN AT

10:22:38 A MAJOR INTERSECTION YOU ALLOWED FOR A FEW RIGHT TURNS

10:22:43 TO GO INTO THE BUSWAY TO JUST FACILITATE THAT MOVEMENT

10:22:46 SO YOU DON'T HAVE RIGHT TURNS ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE

10:22:50 BUS WAY, BUT THAT WILL STILL QUALIFY AS A GUIDEWAY.

10:22:53 BASICALLY THE STREET CAR HAS ITS OWN GUIDEWAY FOR MOST

10:22:55 OF ITS OPERATION.

10:22:56 YOU CAN THINK OF IT LIKE THAT.

10:22:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE STREET CAR IN CERTAIN PLACES

10:23:03 HAVE CONCRETE -- CONCRETE BARRIERS.

10:23:04 OTHER PLACE IT IS DOESN'T.

10:23:06 BIKEWAYS WITH CONCRETE.

10:23:07 >> SIMILAR.

10:23:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS KIND OF WHAT IS IN MIND?

10:23:10 >> CORRECT.

10:23:13 BASICALLY THE SAME THING AS THE CYCLE TRACK ON JACKSON

10:23:17 STREET WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT WITH A NICE TWO OR

10:23:22 THREE-FOOT BUFFER AND OPENING UP INTERSECTIONS TO ALLOW

10:23:25 MOVEMENT FOR GENERAL TRAFFIC, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

10:23:28 YES.

10:23:30 >> MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.

10:23:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

10:23:33 WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

10:23:36 THAT CONCLUDES PRESENTATION AND CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.

10:23:37 PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:23:39 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ANY MATTER THAT IS

10:23:41 ON THE AGENDA THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

10:23:43 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

10:23:47 WE WILL BEGIN THAT NOW.

10:23:50 >> UHURU, GOOD MORNING.

10:23:52 IT MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.

10:23:57 WE AS AFRICAN FREEDOM FIGHTERS USE THAT WORD UHURU.

10:24:00 WHAT WE SEE IS WHEN WE COME HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK, WE

10:24:07 SEE AWARDS, COMMENDATIONS, PRAYERS, INVOCATION, MONEY,

10:24:08 $10 MILLION BUDGETS.

10:24:10 WEEK AFTER WEEK.

10:24:12 WE HAVE COMPLAINTS.

10:24:13 CRA REPORTS.

10:24:16 SPECIAL ECONOMIC ZONES.

10:24:20 BUT NO CHECKS AND BALANCES.

10:24:25 NONWHATSOEVER FOR THE AFRICAN PEOPLE.

10:24:29 NONWHATSOEVER FOR THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY.

10:24:31 WE LIKE TO GIVE BLACK PEOPLE AWARDS.

10:24:32 BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY?

10:24:36 EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BE COMING OVER TO LOWRY PARK ZOO

10:24:37 TO SEE US.

10:24:42 WE ARE GOING TO BE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES HERE ON THIS

10:24:43 PLANET EARTH.

10:24:46 IF YOU WANT TO SEE A BLACK PERSON, YOU HAVE TO COME TO

10:24:47 LOWRY PARK ZOO.

10:24:48 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

10:24:52 A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE BLACK POPULATION IF YOU WANT

10:24:55 TO SEE US YOU GOT TO FILL OUT A VISITATION FORM TO GO

10:24:58 TO THE DAMN PRISON SOMEWHERE TO SEE ALL OF OUR YOUNG

10:24:59 MEN.

10:25:01 TO SEE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

10:25:02 NO AFRICAN MEN.

10:25:06 A BUNCH OF AFRICAN WOMEN.

10:25:08 ENDANGERED SPECIES.

10:25:12 THE AFRICAN WOMEN ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES.

10:25:14 AND THE AFRICAN CHILD.

10:25:17 AND PEOPLE WHO SIT BACK AND ACT LIKE THEY HAVE NO

10:25:19 COMPLICITY IN IT.

10:25:20 YEAH.

10:25:22 IT IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

10:25:28 AND YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ONE MFING THING.

10:25:30 NOT ONE BLACK -- NOTHING.

10:25:32 THAT IS LIKE WHEN IT IS POLLUTES.

10:25:36 YOU DON'T SEE ONE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. SAYING

10:25:36 NOTHING.

10:25:39 THAT IS THE WAY WHITE PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT US.

10:25:42 AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY TREAT US NASTY, DIRTY AND

10:25:45 INHUMANE.

10:25:50 FROM 1400 TO 2020.

10:25:53 I WILL PUT IT IN A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND I AM

10:25:55 GOING TO PUT IT IN A CONTEMPORARY PERSPECTIVE.

10:25:57 THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US.

10:25:59 THEY TREAT US LIKE DIRT.

10:26:00 LIKE NASTY.

10:26:02 ALL THESE AWARDS GOING ON.

10:26:07 AND YOU WHAT SEEING IS, IT IS A PUSH BACK.

10:26:11 THE DISRESPECT OF THE AFRICAN MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD, A

10:26:12 PUSH BACK.

10:26:13 A HATRED.

10:26:15 IT IS A HATRED OF BLACK SKIN.

10:26:18 FIRST THEY PUSHED UP THE UPPER CLASS.

10:26:23 THEY PUSHED ALL OF THE AFRICAN BUSINESS ZONES, CENTRAL

10:26:24 PARK, WEST TAMPA.

10:26:27 THEN THE MIDDLE CLASS FLEW GENTRIFICATION.

10:26:30 THEN THEY PUSHED OUT -- THEY RIGHT NOW TODAY PUSHING

10:26:33 OUT THE POOR WORKING-CLASS THROUGH HOUSING PROJECTS AND

10:26:35 PUTTING US TO LIVE EVERYWHERE.

10:26:38 AND NOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING ARE THE TO DO?

10:26:41 DISRESPECT A DEAD AFRICAN.

10:26:44 DISRESPECT OUR BURIAL SITES.

10:26:46 THIS CITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

10:26:47 IT IS GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES.

10:26:49 BUT THIS CITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOMETHING

10:26:50 ABOUT IT.

10:26:52 DO SOMETHING ABOUT IF.

10:26:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:26:57 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:26:58 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:27:03 MY NAME IS LINDA SAUL-SENA, AND I LIVE IN TAMPA,

10:27:03 FLORIDA.

10:27:06 HERE THIS MORNING ON ITEM 84.

10:27:09 DEAR COUNCILMEMBERS, THANKS FOR PURSUING THE ISSUE OF

10:27:10 UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES.

10:27:13 DURING THE SUPER BOWL, I LISTEN -- I WAS IN SOUTH

10:27:16 FLORIDA AND I SAW A TV AD FOR THEIR LOCAL UTILITY

10:27:20 COMPANY BRAGGING ABOUT THEIR INITIATIVE TO TAKE

10:27:23 UTILITIES AND UNDERGROUND THEM THROUGHOUT THEIR AREA.

10:27:27 OUR COUNTRY HAS SUCCESSFULLY COLLABORATED WITH THE DANA

10:27:30 SHORES NEIGHBORHOOD TO RELOCATE THEIR OVERHEAD

10:27:33 UTILITIES, POWER LINES UNDERGROUND, AND WE CAN FOLLOW

10:27:34 SUIT.

10:27:37 OUR DAVIS ISLAND COMMITTEE BEGAN WORK ON THIS ISSUE IN

10:27:42 THE 1990S AND WE SPENT A DOZEN YEARS STUDYING AND

10:27:46 LOBBYING HERE AND IN TALLAHASSEE TO SHIFT OUR ENERGY TO

10:27:48 UNDERGROUND LINES.

10:27:52 OVER THESE DECADES, TECHNOLOGY HAS EVOLVED TO ALLOW US

10:27:56 MORE EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE STRATEGIES TO

10:27:57 ACCOMPLISH THIS.

10:28:00 BOTTOM LINE, IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO TAKE OVERHEAD

10:28:02 UTILITIES AND PUT THEM UNDERGROUND.

10:28:06 LONG TERM, A MUCH SOUNDER INVESTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE

10:28:10 FEWER OUTAGES AND SO MANY PEOPLE WORK AT HOME AND DEAL

10:28:16 WITH THINGS AT HOME PROFESSIONALLY THAT IT IS NOT

10:28:20 STEAKS THAT THAW IN YOUR FREEZER BUT LOST BUSINESS FOR

10:28:21 MANY PEOPLE.

10:28:27 AND AN INTACT TREE CANOPY THAT WAS -- WAS THE ISSUE

10:28:28 THAT LED ME TO THIS.

10:28:29 I AM VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THIS.

10:28:32 I AM PLEASED THAT YOUR STAFF IS COMING BACK IN TWO

10:28:32 MONTHS.

10:28:36 AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT TECO, BUT THE

10:28:41 OTHER POWER COMPANIES IN THE STATE PICK UP 20% OF THE

10:28:42 COST.

10:28:44 THE COMMUNITY PAYS FOR A PORTION OF IT.

10:28:47 THE GOVERNMENT PAYS FOR A PORTION.

10:28:49 AND THE UTILITY COMPANY PAYS A PORTION.

10:28:51 I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS

10:28:52 AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

10:28:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THIS ISSUE.

10:28:58 IT COULD TRANSFORM THE LOOK AND FUNCTIONING OF OUR

10:28:59 CITY.

10:29:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:29:01 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:29:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS SAUL-SENA.

10:29:07 YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE PODIUM FOR US THANKING YOU OF THE

10:29:10 20 YEARS EVER SERVICE ON THIS CITY COUNCIL.

10:29:11 WE MISS YOU GREATLY.

10:29:14 YOU HAVE PROGRESSIVE IDEAS AND YOU KEEP COMING BACK

10:29:17 WITH MORE AND THE SAME.

10:29:20 WE DEFINITELY NEED TO START UNDERGROUNDING.

10:29:23 I KNOW THAT TECO AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION HAVE

10:29:27 STARTED IN TERMS OF THE CRITICAL -- THE CRITICAL --

10:29:32 WHAT THEY CALL THE CRITICAL AREAS THAT THEY CALL

10:29:34 AIRPORTS AND HOSPITALS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

10:29:37 THAT IS A GOOD START BUT WE NEED TO STEP IT UP AND

10:29:40 ESPECIALLY IN THE TIMES OF BIGGER STORMS AND MORE

10:29:43 STORMS AND WE REALLY NEED TO JACK IT UP A BIT.

10:29:45 SO WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO.

10:29:47 THANK YOU.

10:29:48 >> THANK YOU.

10:29:52 AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR PURSUING THIS ISSUE.

10:29:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.

10:29:58 >> I AM PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS LOCATED 1112 SCOTT

10:30:01 STREET, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

10:30:05 AND I WANT TO START OFF BY READING A FEW SCRIPTURE TO

10:30:06 YOU ALL.

10:30:12 AND THERE CAME TWO ANGELS TO LOT SAID AT THE GATE OF

10:30:13 SOLOMON.

10:30:17 AND LOT SEEING THEM ROSE UP TO MEET THEM AND HE BOWED

10:30:20 HIMSELF WITH HIS FACE TOWARD THE GROUND.

10:30:23 AND HE SAID, BEHOLD NOW, MY LORD.

10:30:24 TURN IN.

10:30:29 I PRAY YOU UNTIL YOUR SERVANT HOUSE AND TELL US ALL

10:30:31 NIGHT AND WASH YOUR FEET.

10:30:35 AND YE SHALL RISE UP EARLY AND GO ON YOUR WAY.

10:30:39 AND THEY SAID NEIGHBOR, WE WILL ABIDE HERE ON THE

10:30:41 STREET ALL NIGHT.

10:30:43 AND HE PRESSED UPON THEM GREATLY.

10:30:51 AND THEY TURNED INTO HIM AND IN THE HOUSE AND MADE A

10:31:01 FEAST AND DID BAKE LEAVENED AND UNLEAVENED BREAD.

10:31:04 AND OF THE CITY AND MAN OF SOLOMON BLESSED THE HOUSE

10:31:09 ROUNDABOUT, AND BOTH OLD AND YOUNG, ALL THE PEOPLE FROM

10:31:10 EVERY CORNER.

10:31:15 AND THEY ARE CALLING TO LOT AND SAID TO HIM, WHERE ARE

10:31:19 THE MEN WHICH CAME IN SUNSET TO THEE THIS NIGHT?

10:31:22 AND BRING THEM OUT AND THANK WE MAY KNOW THEM.

10:31:26 AND LOT WENT OUT OF THE DOOR SUNSET TO THEM AND SHUT

10:31:32 THE DOOR AFTER HIM AND SAID, I PRAY YOU, BRETHREN, DO

10:31:36 NOT SO -- BEHOLD NOW I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS WHICH HAVE

10:31:37 NOT KNOWN MEN.

10:31:45 LET ME I PRAY YOU BRING THEM OUT TO YOU AND TO DO THEM

10:31:48 AS IS GOOD EVEN IN YOUR EYE.

10:31:52 ONLY UNTIL THESE MEN DO NOTHING BUT THEREFORE THEY COME

10:31:54 UNDER THE SHADOW OF MY ROOF.

10:31:58 AND THEY SAID, STAND BACK, AND THEY SAID TO HIM AGAIN,

10:32:05 THIS ONE FELLA CAME IN SOJOURN AND HE WILL NEED TO BE

10:32:07 JUDGED.

10:32:11 NOW WE DEAL WORSE WITH THEE THAN WITH THEM.

10:32:15 AND THEY PRESS UPON THE MEN.

10:32:16 EVEN LOT.

10:32:19 AND CAME NEAR TO BREAK THE DOOR.

10:32:24 BUT THE MAN PUT FORTH THEIR HAND AND PUT -- PUT LOT

10:32:25 INTO THE HOUSE OF THEM.

10:32:27 AND SHUT THE DOOR.

10:32:31 AND SO SAD THE CONDITION OF THE UNITED STATES OF

10:32:32 AMERICA.

10:32:38 WE CAN SAY WHAT WE WANT TO SAY, BUT THE LAW.

10:32:40 AND THAT IS ONE LAW, THE HUMAN LAW.

10:32:44 YOU DON'T HAVE TO NO GAY RIGHTS AND ALL THIS OTHER

10:32:45 STUFF.

10:32:48 BUT THE THING ABOUT IT, WE TRAINING OUR CHILDREN TO

10:32:52 COME UP TO BE GAY, HOMO SEXUAL AND ALL THAT

10:32:53 FOOLISHNESS.

10:32:56 GOD IS NOT PLEASED WITH IT WHETHER YOU ALL LIKE IT OR

10:33:00 NOT AND GOD WILL STAND ON JUSTICE FOR ALL MANKIND.

10:33:02 THANK YOU.

10:33:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE

10:33:11 >> HI, JIM DEMO RO FROM THE RESIDENCES ON FRANKLIN

10:33:14 STREET AND I HAVE GONE THERE FOR THE ITEM NUMBER 74,

10:33:19 WHICH I SEE HAS BEEN MOVED TO FEBRUARY 20 ABOUT THE

10:33:22 BRICK REMOVAL OF HARRISON STREET.

10:33:25 I AM JUST SORRY TO REPORT IT HAS ALREADY TO BEGUN.

10:33:30 BRICKS ARE BEING REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH ASPHALT, AND

10:33:31 THE HEARING HAVEN'T BEEN HAD.

10:33:34 DETAINED SINCE DECEMBER 6.

10:33:36 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE COUNCIL THERE IS A

10:33:39 POSSIBILITIES YET FOR PEOPLE OF FRANKLIN STREET TO

10:33:43 SPEAK THEIR MINDS ABOUT THE BRICK REMOVAL?

10:33:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE IT SET AS A PUBLIC

10:33:46 HEARING.

10:33:49 YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK THAT DAY.

10:33:51 WHEN THAT HEARING ITEM COME COMES UP.

10:33:53 I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER IT WILL BE ON AGENDA BUT

10:33:54 FEBRUARY 20.

10:33:57 AND AS MANY OF YOU PEOPLE WANT TO COME OUT TO SPEAK

10:33:59 ABOUT IT ARE FREE TO DO SO.

10:34:02 >> I BROUGHT ALONG SEVERAL COPIES --

10:34:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY AND SHE

10:34:06 WILL DISTRIBUTE IT US TO.

10:34:06 >> THANK YOU.

10:34:10 I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION AND I WILL BE BACK ON THE

10:34:12 20TH..

10:34:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS GOOD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:34:17 >> JUST TO CONFIRM YOU SAID THE BRICKS ARE BEING TAKEN

10:34:20 UP OR TORN UP --

10:34:34 [INAUDIBLE]

10:34:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE TO SPEAK AT THE LECTERN

10:34:42 SO THE MICROPHONE PICKS IT UP.

10:34:46 >> TO THE COUNCILMAN'S QUESTION, THERE HAVE BEEN BRICK

10:34:50 REMOVAL ALREADY ON A PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS -- THAT

10:34:54 USED TO HAVE DOMINO'S ON IT AT THE CORNER OF TYLER AND

10:34:55 TAMPA STREET.

10:35:01 THE PARKING LOT HAS ENCROACHED ON THE HARRISON WITH

10:35:07 BRICKS REMOVED AND 40 X 80 OR 100 FEET BRICK REMOVED

10:35:10 AND NO LONGER ON THE SITE.

10:35:13 CURRENT CONSTRUCTION ON THE ROADWAY WHERE BRICK HAS

10:35:16 BEEN RIPPED UP AND PLACED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

10:35:18 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE TOMORROW.

10:35:21 THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE STOP THE DESTRUCTION OF THE

10:35:23 BRICK PAVEMENT OF HARRISON STREET WHICH IS

10:35:26 TRADITIONALLY BROOK STREET?

10:35:26 THANK YOU.

10:35:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:35:32 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:35:34 >> HEY, GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

10:35:38 I'M HERE TO GIVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 85.

10:35:41 TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREAS IN SOUTH

10:35:43 TAMPA.

10:35:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NAME FOR THE RECORD.

10:35:49 >> JEFFREY NATOSKI.

10:35:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, GO AHEAD.

10:35:55 >> I MAY NOT BE HERE WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP, BUT

10:35:59 I HAVE TWO SUGGESTIONS TO HELP TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC

10:36:00 IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:36:01 EASY SIMPLE SUGGESTIONS.

10:36:07 THE FIRST ONE BEING A "DO NOT BLOCK" ENTRY SIGN.

10:36:10 A DO NOT BLOCK ENTRY SIGN WHEN YOU ARE PULLING UP TO AN

10:36:13 APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A CONDO BUILDING.

10:36:17 SO I HAVE SEEN SOME PEOPLE WHERE THEY WILL PUT A DO NOT

10:36:20 BLOCK SIGN AROUND HERE ALLOWING TRAFFIC COMING

10:36:24 SOUTHBOUND TO PULL IN AND OUT OF THESE DRIVEWAYS.

10:36:28 AND MY THOUGHTS ARE, IF WE ARE ABLE TO STOP VEHICLES OR

10:36:32 AT LEAST SUGGEST THAT VEHICLES DO NOT PARK IN THESE

10:36:37 ENTRY WAYS, THE TRAFFIC WILL NOT BUILDUP COMING

10:36:39 SOUTHBOUND TO PULL INTO THE DRIVEWAY.

10:36:41 AND I THINK IT IS A SIMPLE, SMALL SOLUTION.

10:36:44 I THINK IT WILL HAVE A VERY BIG IMPACTS.

10:36:46 I DON'T THINK IT WILL COST THAT MUCH MONEY.

10:36:48 THE WAY I WOULD IMPLEMENT IT.

10:36:50 GETTING A NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE TIME.

10:36:53 HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUGGEST PLACES THEY

10:36:55 ARE PUT AT.

10:36:57 I WILL BE SUBMITTING MY SUGGESTIONS SOON.

10:37:00 AND THE SECOND THOUGHT I HAVE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT

10:37:05 BE AS EASY AS THIS ONE IS SLIGHTLY RAISED SPEED HUMPS.

10:37:08 NOT THE AGGRESSIVE ONES THAT ARE VERY TALL, BUT THE

10:37:12 ONES THAT EXPAND FIVE TO SIX FEET LONG, MAYBE A FOOT

10:37:14 FOR TWO HIGH IN DEPTH.

10:37:17 I THINK THAT COULD HELP SERVE AS A TRAFFIC CALMING

10:37:19 DEMEANOR.

10:37:22 NOT NECESSARILY ON BIG ROADS BUT MAYBE ON SMALLER

10:37:22 ROADS.

10:37:25 THOSE ARE MY TWO SUGGESTIONS JUST IN CASE I AM NOT

10:37:25 HERE.

10:37:26 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:37:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:37:31 BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, CHIEF BENNETT.

10:37:33 >> SIR?

10:37:36 >> WE HAD THE TIME CERTAIN AND THREE OR FOUR MORE

10:37:40 SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ANOTHER, WHAT, 12 MINUTES

10:37:42 HERE BUT US OVER 10:50.

10:37:44 AND WE ARE GOING TO BREAK AT 11:00.

10:37:48 DO YOU WANT TO BE FIRST AT 1:30 WHEN WE RECONVENE?

10:37:50 HOW DO YOU DO THIS?

10:37:55 I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE PUBLIC SPEAK SO --

10:37:57 >> I KNOW YOU HAVE FOLKS AND WHATNOT.

10:38:00 WE RECONVENE AT 1:30.

10:38:04 WE GO RIGHT INTO --

10:38:06 >> I CAN CHANGE PLACES IF THAT WOULD HELP?

10:38:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WERE HERE, YOU ARE HERE.

10:38:09 YOU WAITED.

10:38:10 WE HAVE ALL WAITED.

10:38:14 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:38:15 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:38:17 MY NAME IS KATE WILD.

10:38:22 AND I AM COMMENTING ON BEHALF OF DEBBY ZIMMERMAN OF 192

10:38:27 CORSICA STREET ON AGENDA ITEM 86.

10:38:30 DAVIS ISLAND'S FORM BASE CODE MATTER.

10:38:35 THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR SCHEDULING THIS ITEM.

10:38:38 THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR PREPARING THE REPORT.

10:38:43 AND DEBBY RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THAT THE DISCUSSION

10:38:46 ADDRESS THE PREFERRED METHOD FOR THE PUBLIC AND

10:38:50 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES -- ASSOCIATIONS TO PROVIDE

10:38:53 COMMENTS AS WELL AS THE PROCESS TO REVIEW SUCH

10:38:54 COMMENTS.

10:38:55 THANK YOU.

10:38:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:39:01 NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.

10:39:02 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:39:05 MY NAME IS MARK ALEMAY.

10:39:07 I AM CURRENTLY A HOMELESS RESIDENT WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH

10:39:08 COUNTY.

10:39:11 I AM A FLORIDA RESIDENT AND HAVE BEEN SO FOR 49 YEARS

10:39:15 PRIMARILY.

10:39:16 I AM A LITTLE TAKEN BACK.

10:39:21 I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY LIFE EXPERIENCES, SUSPICION

10:39:25 WITH DECEPTIVE, CIVIL AND LEGAL ACTIVITY AND REQUEST

10:39:29 FOR HELP WITH DEALING WITH SUCH AND DIRECTION WITH

10:39:34 REGARD TO IDEAS AND INITIATIVES THAT BENEFIT AND HAVE

10:39:38 CITY COUNCIL, STATE, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL

10:39:39 COMPONENTS.

10:39:41 I HAVE FOR THE AS A WHOLE TO INCLUDE THE CITY

10:39:45 GOVERNMENT, RESIDENCES, BUSINESSES AND LIKES IDEAS AND

10:39:48 INITIATIVES THAT WILL BENEFIT UNLIKE BEFORE; HOWEVER,

10:39:51 BECAUSE OF THE INTEGRITY, THE SAFETY AND WELL BEING OF

10:39:53 MYSELF AND OTHERS, I THINK CLOSED DISCUSSIONS WOULD BE

10:39:56 MOST APPROPRIATE INITIALLY.

10:39:58 I WANT TO INFORM THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL MEMBERS

10:40:03 CURRENTLY ATTENDING OR PREVIOUSLY ATTENDING OR ARE

10:40:06 INVOLVED, I WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION ANY ENTITY, PERSON

10:40:10 OR THE LIKE AS IT PERTAINS TO INTERFERENCE WITH MY

10:40:14 PERSONAL OR PROSPECTIVE PROFESSIONAL LIFE.

10:40:16 I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THERE ARE AND HAVE BEEN

10:40:19 DISCUSSIONS AND ACTIONS TAKEN UPON ME AND ABOUT ME THAT

10:40:23 MAY IN FACT INCLUDE THE CITY -- THAT MAY IN FACT

10:40:29 INCLUDE CITY OF TAMPA -- CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL PERSONS

10:40:31 AND PARTIES ARE HERE AND MAY HAVE LEFT ALREADY.

10:40:36 TO INCLUDE OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND NATION FOR AN

10:40:39 UNDETERMINED AMOUNT OF TIME WHICH IS CAUSING AND HAVE

10:40:43 CAUSED GRAVE INJUSTICES, PAIN, SUFFERING, CRIMINAL

10:40:46 CHARGES, PERSONAL INJURIES IN MY PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND

10:40:47 EMOTIONAL BEING.

10:40:52 OPPOSING UPON MY CIVIL FREEDOMS WITH RELIGION, HEALTH,

10:40:55 EDUCATION AND SOCIALLY INTERFERING WITH MY PERSONAL AND

10:40:58 PERSPECTIVE AND PROFESSIONAL LIFE AS A WHOLE.

10:41:02 WITH ALL THAT IS STATED HOW DO I ENGAGE IN A CLOSED

10:41:05 DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND THE LEGAL BODY

10:41:06 THAT REPRESENTS YOU ALL?

10:41:09 THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND ATTENTION AS THESE IDEAS AND

10:41:13 INITIATIVES EXPONENTIALLY CAN EFFECT AND BENEFIT ALL

10:41:17 PEOPLE FROM ALL NATIONS FOR A TIME THAT IS AT

10:41:19 INFINITUM.

10:41:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:41:23 >> GOD I PRAY THAT THIS MOMENT FORWARD WE DO NOT

10:41:26 NEGLECT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PURSUE THIS WITH ALL OF

10:41:26 OUR EFFORT.

10:41:28 AMEN.

10:41:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

10:41:31 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:41:34 >> CAN YOU ASK THE SPEAKER TO SAY HIS NAME FOR THE

10:41:34 RECORD.

10:41:34 >> HE DID.

10:41:36 WHAT IS YOUR NAME.

10:41:41 >> THE NAME FOR THE RECORD, MARK ALEMAY.

10:41:44 IF I CAN REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHICH IS PROBABLY TOO LATE

10:41:47 FOR THAT, BUT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND THOUGHTS.

10:41:51 IF RESIDENTS WANTED TO COME AT AN ANONYMOUS LEVEL, HOW

10:41:53 CAN WE DO SO ALSO.

10:41:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:42:08 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:42:10 >> IF THERE IS AN OVERHEAD.

10:42:17 MY NAME IS JOHN MOLL, 44 NORTH AVENUE.

10:42:20 AND I JUST RECEIVED THIS REPORT.

10:42:27 GEOTECHNICAL EXPLORATION OF MY BODY OF HARVESTING.

10:42:32 THE CITY AND I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT HOW MUCH RAIN WATER

10:42:34 IS FLOWING OFF MY PROPERTY.

10:42:40 AND THEY ENGAGED THIS TO COME OUT AND DETERMINE HOW

10:42:44 MUCH -- HOW MUCH STORMWATER OR RAIN WATER WAS FLOWING

10:42:45 FROM MY PROPERTY.

10:42:48 HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN THIS REPORT?

10:42:50 I THINK IT COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM THE CITY.

10:42:52 AND PERHAPS IT IS AVAILABLE TO YOU.

10:42:55 I HAVE A COPY HERE THAT I CAN GIVE TO THE BOARD

10:42:58 ATTORNEY IF THAT WAS NECESSARY, BUT PERHAPS IT WILL BE

10:43:02 COMING OVER FROM THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT.

10:43:06 BUT INSIDE OF THAT, I WILL JUST -- I AM NOT GOING TO GO

10:43:10 THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT IT SAYS, DEAR MRS. GRAVES.

10:43:15 TITLE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA ARENA ENGINEERING IS PLEASED

10:43:18 TO SUBMIT THIS REPORT OF YOUR GEOTECHNICAL EXPLORATION

10:43:20 FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

10:43:22 I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECT.

10:43:24 I AM JUST HARVESTING RAIN WATER.

10:43:28 SO I REALLY DON'T THINK THIS REPORT IS RELEVANT TO HOW

10:43:32 MUCH WATER IS FLOWING OFF MY PROPERTY.

10:43:37 AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT RAIN WATER

10:43:38 HARVESTING IS.

10:43:42 I WENT TO THE EXTENSION SERVICE AND THEY HAVE A CLASS

10:43:42 ON THAT.

10:43:46 RAINWATER HARVESTING IS COLLECTING THE RUNOFF FROM A

10:43:52 STRUCTURE AND OTHER IMPERVIOUS SURFACE TO STORE IT FOR

10:43:53 ANOTHER USE.

10:43:57 IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR, I SCORE 63 GALLONS OF WATER

10:44:00 WHICH IS NOT FLOWING INTO THE STREET TO CAUSE FLOODING.

10:44:04 PERHAPS IF MORE PEOPLE DID THIS, IT WOULD ALLEVIATE

10:44:05 STREET FLOODING.

10:44:09 TRADITIONALLY INVOLVING HARVESTING RAIN FROM THE ROOF.

10:44:13 COLLECT IN GUTTERS AND CHANNELS AND THE DOWNSPOUTS IN

10:44:16 SOME SORT OF STORAGE VESSEL.

10:44:21 RAIN SHOWER COLLECTION SYSTEM AND AS ELABORATE AS THE

10:44:26 CISTERNS TO SUPPLY YOUR ENTIRE HOUSE HOLD.

10:44:29 ALL I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR SEVERAL YEARS WAS MITIGATION

10:44:33 CREDIT FOR DOING THIS, BUT APPARENTLY THE CITY IS

10:44:35 IMPERVIOUS TO THE FACT THAT I AM DOING THIS.

10:44:39 I AM NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE RAINFALL GOING INTO THE

10:44:40 STREETS.

10:44:43 SO I -- HOPEFULLY MAYBE YOU LOOK AT THIS AND SEE

10:44:48 WHETHER THAT SATISFIES THE QUESTION OF HOW MUCH RAIN

10:44:52 WATER IS FLOWING INTO THE STREET FROM MY PROPERTY.

10:44:54 I SAYS IT ZERO.

10:44:57 BUT THE CITY DISAGREES.

10:45:00 SO I WILL JUST -- HOPEFULLY YOU WILL READ THE REPORT.

10:45:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:45:07 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:45:09 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.

10:45:16 AS WE CELEBRATE THE HISTORY OF AFRICAN CONTRIBUTIONS TO

10:45:20 AMERICA, I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD UP FOR THIS LOCAL

10:45:24 COMMUNITY OF ESME REED.

10:45:28 OF COURSE PEOPLE SEE HER NAME ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY

10:45:29 STRUCTURE NOW.

10:45:37 I CAN TELL YOU AS A ONCE STUDENT UNDER HER FEET, SHE

10:45:40 WASN'T MUCH BELOVED BY MANY IN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE SHE

10:45:44 WOULD KEEP TELL US TO KEEP PURSUING WHAT WE BELIEVE TO

10:45:45 BE RIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

10:45:52 AND AS YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE LIFE WORK OF MR. TOKLEY, I

10:45:57 WOULD SAY MAYBE WE NEED TO SET A SEAT UP THERE BEHIND

10:45:59 YOU GUYS SO HE CAN HELP.

10:46:04 SO WE CAN ERASE THIS TWO TAMPA THAT'S WE HAVE HERE IN

10:46:04 THIS COMMUNITY.

10:46:07 WE HAVE TWO TAMPAS IN 2020.

10:46:12 ONE THAT IS LIVING, AND ONE THAT IS IMPOVERISHED.

10:46:15 THE THINGS THAT MR. MIRANDA LAID OUT THE 50/50 RULE

10:46:16 THIS MORNING.

10:46:17 I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I DO LIKE.

10:46:21 THE FACT THAT WE DO -- THAT WE WILL RECEIVE A TRAFFIC

10:46:28 SIGNAL OVER ON EAST TAMPA, ITEM NUMBER 60, I BELIEVE.

10:46:33 TOO MANY DEAD CHILDREN, TOO MANY DEAD BODIES, TOO MANY

10:46:38 RUNNING IN AND OUT OF THE TRAFFIC JUST TRYING TO CROSS.

10:46:40 IN 2020, THAT IS HAPPENING FOR US.

10:46:46 WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS NUMBER 56, 57 AND 58, THAT EVEN

10:46:52 THOUGH THESE ARE NONPROFIT ENTITIES SIDE OF EAST TAMPA,

10:46:55 TWO OF THEM IN PARTICULAR HAVE A WONDERFUL MISSION

10:46:55 STATEMENT.

10:46:58 EVERYTHING IS GEARED TOWARD HOMEOWNERSHIP.

10:47:03 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF THEIR HOMES, I DON'T KNOW

10:47:07 HOW YOU WOULD LIFT POOR AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE UP.

10:47:10 HOUSES CLOSE AT $300,000.

10:47:13 $257,000.

10:47:17 WHEN PEOPLE ARE WORKING PRIMARILY AT FAST FOOD, CALL

10:47:22 CENTERS, AND WE REPEATEDLY KEEP TELLING YOU THIS.

10:47:24 AND LASTLY WHAT I DON'T KNOW AND WHO I DON'T KNOW AND I

10:47:28 AM GOING TO GET TO SEE IS ITEM NUMBER 35.

10:47:32 WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING CONSTANTLY IS THE APPOINTMENT OF

10:47:37 PEOPLE THAT SOMETIME IS NOT EVEN TIED TO THE COMMUNITY.

10:47:40 THAT EVEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE BOARDS AND THE

10:47:44 LEADERSHIP MIGHT BE AFRICANS, THEY DON'T HAVE NO

10:47:45 HISTORY TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:47:48 AND THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ENGAGE WHAT WE

10:47:53 UNDERSTAND TO BE REAL GENTRIFICATION, THAT OUR

10:47:56 COMMUNITY IS BEING DISBURSE.

10:47:59 THE ISSUE OF POVERTY IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AND THE

10:48:01 PEOPLE ARE BEING SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT PRIMARILY THE

10:48:05 COUNTY BECAUSE THE CITY HAS NOT DEALT WITH THE HOUSING

10:48:07 CRISIS IN THIS CITY.

10:48:09 THAT YOU THINK IT COULD BE DEALT WITH BY BRINGING

10:48:15 PEOPLE INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS RESOURCES WELL

10:48:18 BEYOND THAT WHICH IS OF THE WORKING-CLASS.

10:48:19 THANK YOU.

10:48:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:48:22 OKAY.

10:48:25 STAFF REPORTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BEGIN AT 10:30.

10:48:26 WE GOT DELAYED.

10:48:28 I SEE TAMPA FIRE IS HERE.

10:48:30 POLICE IS HERE.

10:48:40 IS THIS ON ITEM 83?

10:48:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GO -- ALL RIGHT WE GO TO

10:48:48 THOSE?

10:48:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU PULLED THESE ITEMS.

10:48:54 31, 32?

10:48:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE.

10:49:07 31 AND 32 ARE THE PBA NEGOTIATIONS AND AGREEMENT, AND

10:49:09 THE REASON I PULLED THEM IS THE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE OF

10:49:12 THE POLICE AND FIRE GOING OUT ON THEIR OWN AND WITH

10:49:15 REGARDS TO THE HEALTH CARE TRUST PROGRAM.

10:49:18 SO I JUST WANTED TO GET A QUICK BRIEFING AND A COUPLE

10:49:20 OF QUESTIONS TO MR. BENNETT.

10:49:21 GO AHEAD.

10:49:22 >> THANK YOU.

10:49:27 AS CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH BOTH THE PBA AND IFF

10:49:31 JOURNEY THROUGH, THIS WAS A BIG INTEREST OF THOSE TWO

10:49:39 UNIONS TO SEEK THE CITY'S EVALUATION, IF YOU WILL, OF A

10:49:44 HEALTH CARE TRUST OPTION FOR THAT LABOR POOL.

10:49:47 WE WORK CLOSELY WITH UNIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL

10:49:47 MONTHS.

10:49:51 I FELT LIKE WE BOTH DID OUR LEVELS OF DUE DILIGENCE AS

10:49:55 IT RELATES TO THREE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT I WILL GET TO

10:49:56 IN A SECOND.

10:49:59 AND THE KEY IS THE ADMINISTRATION LED BY THE MAYOR, OF

10:50:02 COURSE, HAD AN OPEN MIND TO SEE IF WE CAN REACH AN

10:50:06 UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS GOOD FOR -- OBVIOUSLY FOR THE

10:50:09 EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE MEMBERSHIP AND THE CITY AND

10:50:11 THE TAXPAYERS WHO PAY OUR SALARIES.

10:50:15 WE WENT INTO THIS WITH KIND OF A THREE-PRONG APPROACH.

10:50:19 FIRST ONE IS THE QUALITATIVE ASPECT AND THE FIRST

10:50:21 QUESTION THAT I FELT COMFORTABLE AFTER THE JOURNEY IS

10:50:25 WILL YOU HAVE EQUAL TO OR GREATER COVERAGE THAN WE HAVE

10:50:28 TODAY FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DEPEND PENCE AND THE

10:50:31 CONFIDENCE WAS GIVEN US TO BY THE UNION AND THEIR TEAM

10:50:33 THAT IT WOULD.

10:50:37 THE SECOND WAS THE QUANTITATIVE PRONG.

10:50:39 WILL THE COST BE EQUAL OR LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE

10:50:42 OFFERING TODAY FOR OUR MEMBERSHIP, AS WELL AS OUR

10:50:43 GENERAL EMPLOYEES.

10:50:45 AND HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO THE BALANCE OF THE

10:50:47 EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY BUDGET.

10:50:51 AND WE WORKED THROUGH THAT SAME LEVEL OF DUE DILIGENCE.

10:50:54 I THINK THEY WILL REPORT THAT I PROBABLY ASKED ABOUT 50

10:50:57 QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT EVERY SESSION TO WALK THROUGH

10:50:57 THIS.

10:51:01 AND THE LAST ONE IS WHAT I CALL THE SAFEGUARDS.

10:51:04 WE WORKED VERY HARD WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM.

10:51:06 GINA'S OFFICE WAS INVOLVED.

10:51:12 OBVIOUSLY WE USED OUR OUTSIDE CONSULTS AS WELL.

10:51:14 AND THEIR LEGAL TEAM AND WORKED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE

10:51:18 SAFEGUARDING LANGUAGE WAS IN THERE QUALITATIVELY IN

10:51:21 TIME AND IF WE HAD TO COME BACK TO THE CITY'S PLAN AND

10:51:24 IF THERE WERE FINANCIAL SAFEGUARDS SHOULD SOMETHING GO

10:51:27 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PLANNED WE COULD REJOIN THE TWO

10:51:29 GROUPS AND GET US BACK TO THE SINGLE PLAN.

10:51:34 SO AT THAT POINT, THE CITY FELT CONFIDENT TO OFFER THIS

10:51:36 OPPORTUNITY AS PART OF A CONTRACT AND THAT IS WHERE WE

10:51:37 SIT TODAY.

10:51:40 OBVIOUSLY THE POLICE SAID HAVE BEEN RATIFIED.

10:51:43 FIRE IS STILL OUT FOR RATIFICATION WHICH IS WHY YOU

10:51:45 ONLY HAVE THE ONE CONTRACT.

10:51:48 I WILL SAY THAT THE ATU AND THE PRESIDENT STEVE SIMON

10:51:52 SAT IN THESE MEETINGS AND REFER AS THEY WENT THROUGH

10:51:54 THE CONTRACT THAT THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THE GENERAL

10:51:58 EMPLOYEES AND THEIR LEVEL OF COVERAGE OR THEIR COST,

10:52:01 ESPECIALLY THROUGH THIS CONTRACT OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL

10:52:03 HEALTH CARE COST INCREASES.

10:52:05 SO HE WAS -- I AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT HE

10:52:08 SAT THROUGH THE MEETINGS AND I HAD PLENTY OF SIDE BARS

10:52:11 WITH THE ATU AND THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THAT WAS

10:52:14 THE MAJOR'S BIG CONCERN IS THE QUALITY OF HEALTH AND

10:52:16 COVERAGE THAT WE GIVE TODAY TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

10:52:18 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TRANSCENDED THROUGH THIS

10:52:21 OPPORTUNITY.

10:52:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.

10:52:28 THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT THIS COUNCIL --

10:52:32 I KNOW THE ENTIRE COUNCIL HAS HAD OVER THE LAST AT

10:52:34 LEAST SIX MONTHS OR MORE.

10:52:38 WHEN REHEARD ABOUT THIS DURING THE CAMPAIGN LAST

10:52:41 SPRING, MY FIRST REACTION WAS, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T

10:52:44 HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO IT IF THEY WANT TO GO OFF ON

10:52:48 THEIR OWN AND CREATE THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE PROGRAM, BUT

10:52:51 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE

10:52:53 IMPACT ON THE EXISTING EMPLOYEES.

10:52:56 ALL THE REMAINING EXISTING EMPLOYEES AND ESPECIALLY ON

10:52:58 THE CITY BUDGET AND THE TAXPAYERS.

10:53:06 OBVIOUSLY YOU AND YOUR TEAM IT THE ANTS AND ACTUARIALS

10:53:09 AND HEALTH CARE OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD

10:53:12 ON THIS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT YOU UP

10:53:15 THERE ON THE RECORD SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND

10:53:19 THE MAYOR TO ENSURE THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR EVERYBODY.

10:53:22 >> YEAH, AND YOU KNOW, THIS TAKES EFFECT AS YOU COULD

10:53:25 READ IN THE -- IN THE CONTRACT IS, TAKES EFFECT IN

10:53:27 2021.

10:53:28 SO WE HAVE A PLANNING PERIOD.

10:53:30 WE HAVE A NEGOTIATION PERIOD.

10:53:33 WE HAVE A BUDGET PERIOD.

10:53:37 SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR CFO.

10:53:39 THEY WORKED ON THEIR SIDE.

10:53:41 I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE UNION CAME BACK WITH A REALLY

10:53:46 AGGRESSIVE OPPORTUNITY QUANTITATIVELY TO MAKE SURE THAT

10:53:50 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO GOING IN THE NEXT ROUND OF RIGHT

10:53:54 SIZING THE HEALTH CARE PLAN WAS LIKE YOU SAID GOOD FOR

10:53:54 EVERYBODY.

10:53:57 AND WE FELT LIKE WE REACHED THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR

10:53:58 THE HEALTH CARE PLAN.

10:54:01 ALL THE THINGS THAT THE CITY OFFERS AS SIDE BENEFITS

10:54:04 LIKE THE WELLNESS CENTER IS STILL IN THERE.

10:54:07 THE ABILITY TO USE THAT TO MAKE SURE WHAT IS OUR NUMBER

10:54:12 ONE GOAL, HEALTHY EMPLOYEE AND HEALTHY FAMILY AND FEEL

10:54:15 SAFEGUARDED WITH THEIR HEALTH CARE PLAN AND ASSURED BY

10:54:18 THE UNION AND WHAT WE BELIEVE THE CITY ALREADY

10:54:18 DELIVERS.

10:54:22 AND THERE IS A DIFFERENT POOL OF NEED AND THAT IS WHAT

10:54:24 THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXPLORE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

10:54:28 WE FEEL GOOD THAT -- THERE IS NOTHING -- YOU KNOW, THE

10:54:32 ANALOGY I USE WITH OUR CFO, LIKE TRYING TO PLAN HOW

10:54:34 MUCH GAS WE ARE GOING TO USE NEXT YEAR.

10:54:37 RIGHT, WE HAVE AN IDEA WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE BUT GAS

10:54:40 PRICES CHANGE, NEEDS CHANGE, ALL THAT THING.

10:54:42 WE SEEM TO MAKE IT WORK THROUGH.

10:54:45 AND IF HE FEEL LIKE WE ARE IN THE SAME REALM OF

10:54:48 FLEXIBILITY WHEN WE GO IN TO NEGOTIATE THE NEXT LEVEL

10:54:51 OF HEALTH CARE FOR THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES COMING UP.

10:54:54 >> FINALLY I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR THE THREE

10:54:58 UNION PRESIDENTS INCLUDING STEVE AND DARLA WITH PBA AND

10:55:01 JOE WITH THE FIRE FOLKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU

10:55:05 DO ALL THE TIME AND ESPECIALLY ON THIS REALLY CRITICAL

10:55:11 ISSUE AND ALSO THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO COMPROMISE.

10:55:14 THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT AND HAVE IMPASSE THAT'S

10:55:17 COME BACK -- THAT HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY TO

10:55:18 BE RESOLVED.

10:55:24 SO IT IS GREAT WHEN WE CAN ALL HOLD HANDS, SING KUMBAYA

10:55:26 AND WORK TOGETHER FOR BETTER CITY.

10:55:27 THANK YOU.

10:55:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:55:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER BROUGHT SOMETHING UP

10:55:37 IN THE CONTRACT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT IT RIGHT,

10:55:42 IF SOMETHING GOES AWRY, THEY WILL LET THEM COME BACK

10:55:44 UNDER THE CITY, IS THAT CORRECT?

10:55:49 >> YES, -- MAYBE NOT, BUT THE UNION IS HERE AS WELL,

10:55:51 BUT THERE IS A PERIOD -- I THINK IT IS AROUND APRIL

10:55:57 THAT IF SOMETHING CHANGED, THEY WOULD NOTIFIED THE CITY

10:56:00 AND FINANCIAL SAFEGUARDS, IF THE BURDEN WOULD NOT COME

10:56:03 OUT TO THE CITY FOR THE RUNOFF CLAIMS, THE CLAIMS THAT

10:56:05 WILL COME BACK WITH THEM AS PART OF COMING BACK TO THE

10:56:08 CITY THAT THERE IS SAFEGUARD LANGUAGE IN THERE

10:56:11 FINANCIALLY AND TIMING WISE TO GET THEM BACK ON THE

10:56:14 PLAN, AND THEY DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING.

10:56:16 WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE RESEARCH.

10:56:18 I HAVE SEEN THEM OVER THE COUNTRY.

10:56:20 THEY HAVE MANY CONTRACTS THAT SIT LIKE THIS.

10:56:22 BUT WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE.

10:56:26 WE ALSO HAVE SAFEGUARDS IN THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES

10:56:27 CONTRACT TOO.

10:56:30 THEY HAVE A WAGE REOPENER SHOULD SOMETHING GO DIFFERENT

10:56:32 THAN OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE HEALTH CARE AND WHAT WE

10:56:35 KNOW TODAY IN POINT IN TIME THAT WE FEEL IS A MANAGED

10:56:37 OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS MAY CHANGE, BUT WE HAVE SAFEGUARDS

10:56:39 FOR THAT AS WELL.

10:56:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

10:56:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:56:43 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

10:56:44 NO?

10:56:48 THESE ARE UNDER THE COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY COUNCILMAN

10:56:50 MIRANDA.

10:56:52 MOVE 31 AND 32.

10:56:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 32 AND 32 I MOVE.

10:57:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND

10:57:07 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

10:57:10 >> A SPECIAL COMMITMENT FOR THE MAYOR TO BE OPEN-MINDED

10:57:14 TO ALLOW US WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

10:57:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:57:19 BEFORE WE GO, I SAY WE GO THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS

10:57:20 HERE.

10:57:26 PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIRED BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

10:57:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS 9-11.

10:57:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:57:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.

10:57:33 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:57:33 ALL RIGHT.

10:57:37 PARKS AND REC CULTURAL COMMITTEE.

10:57:39 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:57:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEM 12-16.

10:57:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND

10:57:48 COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

10:57:50 PUBLIC WORKS.

10:57:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:57:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU WILL CHAIRMAN.

10:57:57 I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PURCHASING AND

10:58:03 WMBE DEPARTMENTS, MR. GREG HART.

10:58:08 I AM OFTEN CRITICAL, BUT SOMETIMES I WANT TO GIVE A PAT

10:58:09 ON THE BACK TOO.

10:58:15 SEVERAL ITEMS INCLUDING ITEM 22 AND A FEW OTHERS WILL

10:58:20 HAVE SHELTER AGENTS THAT OBVIOUSLY FAVOR THE WMBA

10:58:20 COMMUNITY.

10:58:26 THAT PARTICULAR ONE 22 IS FOR $220,000 AND SOME OTHERS.

10:58:31 YOU WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND 29 AS WELL FOR

10:58:35 323,000 SHELTERED MARKET THAT WE APPRECIATE THEIR

10:58:39 EFFORTS, AND I AM NOT ALWAYS JUMPING ON THEIR BACK.

10:58:42 I MOVE ITEM 17-30.

10:58:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.

10:58:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 33, 35, 36, 37.

10:58:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:59:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN, DINGFELDER.

10:59:02 ZONING.

10:59:03 CARLSON.

10:59:07 >>BILL CARLSON: IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION SINCE WOULD

10:59:10 LIKE TO ABSTAIN FROM NUMBER 49.

10:59:12 MOVE FROM ITEMS 38-48.

10:59:14 AND THEN.

10:59:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SUBSTITUTE PRIOR TO NUMBER 39.

10:59:23 >>BILL CARLSON: A SUBSTITUTE.

10:59:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUOUS ON FEBRUARY 20.

10:59:29 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 57.

10:59:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

10:59:34 FEBRUARY 20, THE YEAR 2020.

10:59:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:59:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

10:59:41 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:59:48 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 38-59, EXCEPT NOT 49 OR 57.

10:59:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:59:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT NUMBERS?

10:59:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SUBSTITUTE ON 39.

11:00:00 AND ONE WAS CONTINUED WHICH WAS 57.

11:00:03 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION.

11:00:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.

11:00:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?

11:00:09 TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE ON 49.

11:00:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 49.

11:00:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:00:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?

11:00:15 OKAY.

11:00:17 NEXT UP, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEES.

11:00:20 ITEMS 60-64.

11:00:30 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:00:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE.

11:00:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:00:37 SECOND FROM JOSEPH CITRO.

11:00:38 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:00:38 ALL RIGHT.

11:00:41 ITEM 65.

11:00:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FOR REVIEW, APRIL 16, 2020,

11:00:47 10:30 IN THE MORNING.

11:00:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A

11:00:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

11:00:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM NUMBER 64 JUMPED

11:00:58 IN QUICKLY.

11:01:02 ONE I ASKED COUNCIL TO COME BACK AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO

11:01:04 A BETTER JOB ON IT.

11:01:08 AT THE TIME THE VENDOR WAS OFFERING 0.5 MBE

11:01:09 PARTICIPATION.

11:01:12 I SAID LET'S JUST GO BACK IF THEY CAN DO BETTER.

11:01:18 SURE ENOUGH, THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THREE TIMES BETTER

11:01:20 HELP IN CAME BACK AT 2%.

11:01:24 ALL RIGHT, 2% IS NOTHING TO WRITE HOME ABOUT, BUT IT IS

11:01:28 THREE TIMES BETTER THAN WHERE WE WERE.

11:01:31 AND SOME WMBE FOLKS WILL BE GETTING BUSINESS OUT OF

11:01:34 THAT AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.

11:01:37 I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL TO ALLOW FOR DELAY THAT

11:01:40 ALLOWED FOR PRODUCTIVE WORK FROM THE STAFF AND VENDOR.

11:01:41 THANK YOU.

11:01:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:01:45 ON THAT NOTE WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.

11:01:48 WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL GO INTO STAFF REPORTS AND

11:01:51 THE REST OF THE AGENDA SHOULDN'T BE TOO BAD.

11:01:54 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.

11:01:54 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

11:01:54

13:35:38 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

13:35:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO RECONVENE THE CITY COUNCIL

13:35:42 MEETING.

13:35:46 CALL IT TO ORDER.

13:35:56 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

13:35:58 WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS.

13:36:01 CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT.

13:36:12 I BELIEVE WE WILL START AT NUMBER 89.

13:36:14 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF

13:36:15 STAFF.

13:36:19 WE WERE ASKED TO COME IN AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE

13:36:21 RESILIENCY PROGRAM AND WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU A FEW

13:36:23 THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.

13:36:27 FIRST, I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY

13:36:31 TEAM THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING OVER OUR SUSTAINABILITY

13:36:38 RESILIENCY PROGRAM AND GIVE COMMENTS ON THE TRIP TO THE

13:36:39 NETHERLANDS.

13:36:42 AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT OUR LAUNCH WITH THE RESILIENCE

13:36:49 CITY PROGRAM THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA JUST RECENTLY AND

13:36:52 WITH THE MOU THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE TAMPA BAY

13:36:54 REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.

13:36:59 AND THEN OUR RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR OUR CHIEF

13:37:03 RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER AND FRAMEWORK

13:37:05 OPTIONS.

13:37:08 >> IF I CAN GET THE OVERHEAD REAL QUICK.

13:37:14 I WILL GIVE YOU A CONCEPT OF WHERE WE ARE HEADING.

13:37:28 ANYBODY CAN FLIP TO THE OVERHEAD.

13:37:31 NOT SEEING ANYTHING UP THERE.

13:37:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WASN'T WORKING EARLIER.

13:37:35 >> I WILL TALK THROUGH IT THEN.

13:37:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TRY IT NOW.

13:37:46 >> GOT YOUR FINGERPRINT.

13:37:53 THERE WE GO.

13:37:56 ALL RIGHT, SO KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS FROM A FOUR

13:38:00 DOMAIN CONCEPT -- AGAIN, WE ARE WAITING FOR OUR

13:38:07 CONSULTANTS TO COME IN WITH THE RESILIENCY PROGRAM AND

13:38:13 GIVE US THE BLUEPRINT FORWARD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

13:38:17 OUR PARTNERS HAVE GONE THROUGH STUDIES AND A MOU AT THE

13:38:20 TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, AND WE WILL WORK

13:38:23 WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE WHAT THEY DO THROUGHOUT THE

13:38:27 ENTIRE SPECTRUM IS COHESIVE AND WORKING TOGETHER AS WE

13:38:30 GO FROM ACTUALLY THE INDIVIDUAL FAMILY BUSINESSES AND

13:38:31 VISITORS.

13:38:35 THINK OF IT FROM YOUR HOUSE OUTWARD.

13:38:40 IN THE CENTER OF THIS LITTLE GRAPH IS GOVERNMENT.

13:38:42 SUSTAINABILITY RESILIENT GOVERNMENT HOW WE START OUR

13:38:44 COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH THEM.

13:38:48 BEYOND THEM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR BUSINESS HAVE

13:38:53 RESILIENCY AND GENTRIFICATION, EVERYTHING YOU HEARD

13:38:54 ABOUT IN OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY PROGRAM.

13:38:57 THE FIRST THING IS TO LOOK AT OUR PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY

13:38:59 AND RICH CULTURE IN TAMPA.

13:39:03 LOOK AT OUR BUILT-IN ENVIRONMENT TO SEE IF THAT IS

13:39:13 SUSTAINABLE AND CHANGES IN THE CLIMATE LOW PROBABILITY

13:39:17 EVENTS LIKE A STORM OPINIONED SEA LEVEL RISE.

13:39:20 LOOKING AT PLANS AROUND THE NATION, I HAVE LOOKED AT,

13:39:24 AGAIN, THE 100 CITIES RESILIENCY PROGRAM AND THAT

13:39:26 REPORT WAS VERY ROBUST.

13:39:28 EACH COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT, AND I SAW THAT WHEN I WENT

13:39:32 TO THE NETHERLANDS AND I TALKED TO OUR EXPERTS AROUND

13:39:35 THE GULF STATES, BUT IF WE WORK IT THROUGH THE

13:39:38 NEIGHBORHOOD OUTWARD, WE WILL MAKE SURE TO CREATE THIS

13:39:42 MOSAIC OF OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE TAMPA THRIVING GOING

13:39:42 FORWARD.

13:39:46 I WENT TO THE NETHERLANDS AND I BUILT THIS SLIDE

13:39:49 BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY APPLICABLE.

13:39:52 THE NETHERLANDS TAKES UP THE SPACE OF WHAT YOU WOULD

13:39:53 SEE.

13:39:54 THE BOX IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

13:39:58 THAT IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE NETHERLANDS AS THE NATION

13:39:58 STATE.

13:40:01 WHAT STRUCK ME WAS, THEY HAVE 18 MILLION PEOPLE.

13:40:04 WE ARE SITTING AT A LITTLE OVER 21 MILLION FOLKS.

13:40:08 AND IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION, A LITTLE OVER 3 MILLION.

13:40:12 THE THING THAT WAS THE REAL GAME CHANGER FOR THEM WAS

13:40:15 THE FACT THEY HAD A COUPLE OF FLOODS.

13:40:18 ACTUALLY THREE FLOODS IN THE NORTH AND CENTRAL AND

13:40:20 SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTRY.

13:40:26 AND THEY DEVISE THIS MISSION CALLED "NEVER AGAIN" AND

13:40:28 LOST MANY LIVES AND PROPERTY OVER THE FLOODS.

13:40:30 EACH FLOOD WAS DIFFERENT.

13:40:33 SOME WAS STORM SURGE, SOME WAS RIVER FLOW, ETC.

13:40:36 THEY CAME UP WITH THE VISION STATEMENT "KEEP OUR FEET

13:40:36 DRY."

13:40:44 THE PHOTOGRAPH, 55% OF THE COUNTRY WAS VULNERABLE TO

13:40:47 FLOODING, WHICH IS A REALLY BIG RISK FOR AN ENTIRE

13:40:47 COUNTRY.

13:40:51 60% OF THE INHABITANTS AT THAT TIME OVER 16 MILLION

13:40:55 PEOPLE WERE AT RISK AND THE GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT WAS

13:40:58 AT RISK OF 65%.

13:41:01 WHEN YOUR WHOLE COUNTRY IS UNDER THREAT, YOU WILL DO

13:41:02 SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

13:41:06 TAMPA AND THE STATE AND GULF AND REGION AND THE WHOLE

13:41:09 UNITED STATES, WE ARE CLAMORING FOR THE RESOURCE FOR

13:41:12 THE SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY PLAN, AND WE ARE

13:41:15 REALLY CUSTOMIZED OURS FROM GOING FORWARD.

13:41:18 I WANT TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF PHOTOS THAT WE TOOK IN

13:41:19 THE NETHERLANDS.

13:41:23 THIS IS OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY

13:41:27 COMBINED A SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAD A BASIN

13:41:34 AND WAS DEVELOPED TO MANAGE FLOODWATERS, BUT YET THEY

13:41:37 WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT A WATER SIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR

13:41:37 HOUSING.

13:41:40 POINT OF THIS PHOTO IS YOU CAN ENGINEER THINGS FOR

13:41:43 SUCCESS THAT ACTUALLY COMBINE CHALLENGES AND

13:41:44 OPPORTUNITIES AT THE SAME TIME.

13:41:47 AND THAT IS KIND OF THE WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO IN

13:41:49 THE TAMPA BAY AREA.

13:41:51 AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY OBVIOUS IN

13:41:54 THE NETHERLANDS THAT PEOPLE RODE BIKES.

13:41:58 YOU CAN SEE THE MORNING RUSH HOUR OF BIKES BEING PARKED

13:42:00 ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO WORK.

13:42:07 SO THEY REALLY TRIFURCATED THE ROAD OF PEDESTRIAN,

13:42:11 BICYCLISTS AND NORMAL VEHICLES IN THE MASS TRANSIT.

13:42:15 USING THE FULL OPPORTUNITY, REVERT BACK TO EVERYBODY

13:42:17 RIDING A BIKE IN THIS CLIMATE?

13:42:21 CERTAINLY NOT, BUT MAKE EFFORTS OF OUR ROADWAYS AND

13:42:24 DEPAVING OUR ROADS TO KEEP OUR TEMPERATURES MODERATE

13:42:27 AND KEEP OUR TRANSPORTATION EFFORTS MOVING ALONG.

13:42:30 THE OTHER THING I SAW IN THE NETHERLANDS THAT WAS

13:42:34 EXCITING IS EVERYTHING IN A RESILIENCY STATE HAD SOME

13:42:35 SORT OF COMMUNICATION.

13:42:38 SO EVERY TIME THERE WAS A PROJECT, YOU WOULD SEE A SIGN

13:42:41 THAT TALKED ABOUT A ROOF-TOP GARDEN AND DEPAVING THE

13:42:46 ROADWAY AND WHY THEY BUILT THIS BERM AGAINST STORM

13:42:48 SURGE, ETC.

13:42:50 AND EVERYTHING HAD A MULTIUSE.

13:42:51 A TRAIL AND A BERM.

13:42:53 IT WASN'T JUST A PILE OF DIRT.

13:42:55 IT HAD A FUNCTIONALITY FOR RIDING A BIKE OR WALKING

13:42:56 PEOPLE.

13:43:04 WALKING PETS, ETC.

13:43:08 AND A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEY ARE KIND OF SMALL BUT

13:43:08 IMPORTANT.

13:43:12 THE OUTCOME IS THE MOSAIC OF DOING THE SMALL THINGS

13:43:15 WENT RIGHT TO LEADING TO THE BIG THINGS.

13:43:17 THE ENVIRONMENT, THE BUILT COMMUNITY AND OUR CULTURE

13:43:20 AND THE COMMUNITY.

13:43:25 JUST SIMPLE -- WE PUT OUR PROGRAM AND THE MAYOR LEAD

13:43:30 THE NO BEADS OF THE BAY FOR GASPARILLA.

13:43:33 25,000 BEADS WERE RECYCLED FOR ADMISSION.

13:43:36 WE ARE STARTING TO SHOW THIS ABILITY OF REUSE AND PART

13:43:38 OF THE EDUCATION OF THE COMMUNITY.

13:43:40 IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, I SAT IN OUR SMART MOBILITY

13:43:47 QUARTERLY MEETING WITH JEAN DUNCAN AND VIC, AND SHOWING

13:43:50 OUR STREET LIGHT CONVERSION.

13:43:54 SOMETIMES WE WILL SEE OUR RESILIENCE SUSTAINABLE

13:44:00 PRODUCTS WILL COST US ON THE FRONT END BUT SAVE US

13:44:01 MONEY IN THE BACK END.

13:44:04 IN OUR COMMUNITY, AS WE GROW OUR COMMUNITY, WE HEAR OUR

13:44:07 CITIZENS TALK ABOUT GENTRIFICATION AND I HEARD THE

13:44:11 MAYOR SPEAK WE NEED TO KEEP OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY

13:44:12 INTACT.

13:44:15 WE HAVE SEEN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE HAD GREAT ECONOMIC

13:44:17 VIBRANCY BUT GENTRIFIED THEIR COMMUNITY.

13:44:24 THAT IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR

13:44:26 LOOKING FROM A COMMUNITY AND CULTURE AND FROM AN ADULT

13:44:28 ENVIRONMENT AND SOMETHING YOU MANAGE A LOT WHEN THEY

13:44:31 COME IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE LOOK AT ENVIRONMENTAL

13:44:33 OPPORTUNITIES AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING IN THIS

13:44:37 RESILIENCE CITY CATALYST PROGRAM THAT IS COMING FORWARD

13:44:39 AND, OF COURSE, HOW CAN COUNCIL SUPPORT US?

13:44:48 WELL, YOU KNOW THAT QUITE A BIT ALREADY SUPPORTED THE

13:44:52 PIPES PROJECT TO REFRESH EVERYTHING WHEN WE PUT THE NEW

13:44:53 INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.

13:44:54 WE APPRECIATE THAT.

13:44:57 WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE WATER SITUATION GOING FORWARD

13:44:57 AS A GROUP.

13:45:00 YOU SUPPORT OUR TREE CANOPY AS WELL.

13:45:03 YOU ARE VERY DILIGENT CALLING ME AND TROUBLESHOOTING

13:45:07 THE TREE CANOPY AND THE MOUS WITH THE TAMPA BAY

13:45:10 REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND THE CITY CATALYST THAT

13:45:13 WILL GET US OUR BLUEPRINT GOING FORWARD.

13:45:15 A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE.

13:45:19 I TALKED ABOUT OUR RECRUITING EFFORT ON THE CHIEF

13:45:23 RESILIENCY AND CHIEF OFFICER.

13:45:26 I AM EXPECTING TO HAVE INTERVIEWS NEXT WEEK AND HOPING

13:45:29 TO HAVE THE CANDIDATE SELECTED WITHIN THE NEXT 45 DAYS.

13:45:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

13:45:34 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

13:45:42 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

13:45:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I APPRECIATE THAT REPORT.

13:45:47 TWO THINGS YOU CAN'T BEAT IN LIFE AND THAT IS KARMA AND

13:45:48 MOTHER NATURE.

13:45:52 WHEN IT COMES TO MOTHER NATURE, TALK ABOUT SEA LEVEL

13:45:55 RISE AND WHAT NOT, AND WE ARE RIGHT ON THE WATER.

13:46:00 AND I REMEMBER 2016, WE APPROVED THE $251 MILLION

13:46:02 STORMWATER PROJECT WHICH IS HELPFUL.

13:46:05 WE APPROVED THE $3 BILLION PIPES PROJECT WHICH IS --

13:46:10 YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING OUR PART AS INSIGNIFICANT AS IT

13:46:16 MAY SEEM IN THE BROADER SCOPE OF REST OF THE WORLD AND

13:46:19 THIS ADMINISTRATION OVERALL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND

13:46:22 GENTRIFICATION AND MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF OUR

13:46:23 NEIGHBORHOODS.

13:46:27 SEEING THE STORE OF PROTECTING OUR TREE CANOPY.

13:46:31 I SAW STREET LIGHT INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

13:46:33 LITTLE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING TO KEEP UP WITH

13:46:36 EVERYTHING BEYOND MOTHER NATURE, BEYOND WHAT COULD

13:46:39 HAPPEN AND DOING OUR PART AS A CITY.

13:46:42 AND I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION GETS IT LOOKING AT A

13:46:46 RESILIENCY OFFICER AND SOMEONE TO TAKE CHARGE WHOMEVER

13:46:48 THAT PERSON MAY BE.

13:46:50 WE HAVE OUR MINDS OPEN FOR THAT CONVERSATION THAT IS SO

13:46:52 IMPORTANT.

13:46:55 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GUDES?

13:46:56 DINGFELDER?

13:47:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE SLIDE

13:47:02 PRESENTATIONS, AND I KNOW WE TALKED WHEN WE HAD OUR

13:47:05 VISIT RIDING AROUND THE CITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST

13:47:07 SIDE OF TOWN.

13:47:11 YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSING PROJECT.

13:47:16 TO ME, I THINK THAT IS VERY KEY TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A

13:47:20 COMMUNITY AND YOU CAN HAVE A WATERFRONT LIKE THAT, AN

13:47:23 IDEA, AND I THINK THAT IS KEY MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE

13:47:29 WE HAVE SEVERAL SITUATIONS IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE

13:47:33 CAN BRING GOOD HOUSING WITH A GOOD LOOK, A DIFFERENT

13:47:36 LOOK.

13:47:39 SOMETIMES DIFFERENT IS GOOD AND YOU CAN'T BE AFRAID OF

13:47:40 NEW CHALLENGES AND STEPPING OUT.

13:47:43 SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT TRIP AND

13:47:47 COMING BACK WITH IDEAS, AND ESPECIALLY AGAIN I CAN'T

13:47:51 THANK ENOUGH FOR LOOKING AT THAT VISION IN REFERENCE TO

13:47:55 THE HOUSING PROJECT LIKE THAT.

13:47:56 >> ABSOLUTELY.

13:47:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

13:48:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MANY DECADES AGO IN THE UNIVERSITY

13:48:05 OF FLORIDA THEY HAD THIS HOUSE CALLED THE -- I THINK IT

13:48:07 WAS CALLED THE FLORIDA SOLAR HOUSE OR THE FLORIDA

13:48:09 ENERGY HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

13:48:11 ALL THESE NEAT GADGETS.

13:48:14 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 1974.

13:48:18 ALL THESE NEAT GADGETS AND HAD SOLAR PANELS ON THE

13:48:18 ROOF.

13:48:21 AND HERE WE ARE X NUMBER OF YEARS LATER AND YOU WOULD

13:48:24 THINK THAT WE ARE THE SUNSHINE STATE AND WE WOULD BE SO

13:48:27 LEADING THE WAY IN SOLAR POWER.

13:48:31 WITH THAT SAID, I AM HOPEFUL OVER THE NEXT SEVEN AND A

13:48:37 HALF YEARS THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT WE -- THAT WE

13:48:42 REALLY, AGAIN, LEAD BY EXAMPLE WITH REGARD TO SOLAR.

13:48:45 THAT WE PUT IT ON EVERY SINGLE BUILDING POSSIBLE THAT

13:48:48 WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

13:48:50 THAT OUR VEHICLES -- ESPECIALLY OUR SMALLER VEHICLES

13:48:54 ALL CONVERT OVER TO ELECTRIC, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

13:48:58 WE ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, THE CITY'S

13:49:01 PROBLEMS, THE COUNTY'S PROBLEMS, THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS

13:49:04 BY OURSELVES BUT WE CAN LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

13:49:07 WHEN PEOPLE SEE US DRIVING A FLEET OF LITTLE ELECTRIC

13:49:10 CARS AROUND TOWN AND EVERY SINGLE ONE NOT ONLY SAYS

13:49:14 CITY OF TAMPA ON THE SIDE AND FRONT AND BACK ELECTRIC

13:49:15 POWERED.

13:49:18 THEY WILL SAY THAT LOOKS PRETTY NEAT, WHY DON'T I DO

13:49:19 THAT.

13:49:24 THAT IS WHY I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO JOHN, AND THE NEW

13:49:26 SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER.

13:49:32 WHO IS THAT PERSON GOING TO BE NOW WE HAVE THE REORG.

13:49:33 >> DIRECTLY REPORT TO ME.

13:49:37 THE ADMINISTRATION IS DIVIDED UP THE FIVE TRANSFORMING

13:49:39 TAMPA'S TOMORROW INITIATIVES.

13:49:42 SO WE HAVE YET TO KICK OFF THE.

13:49:46 WE WANT TO GET THE CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE

13:49:50 OFFICER IN PLACE TO KICK OFF THE ADVISORY TEAM AND LIKE

13:49:52 EVERYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST.

13:49:55 OF COURSE THE MAYOR HAS A SENSE OF REGIONALITY.

13:49:59 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE YOU FROM THE DOORSTEP ALL

13:50:01 THE WAY TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA AND SHARE A LOT OF OUR

13:50:07 RESOURCES AND HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME RISK FACTORS.

13:50:11 MY WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMISSIONER JANET LONG IN

13:50:12 PINELLAS.

13:50:15 SHE WAS AT A RECENT SUMMIT AND WE ARE ALL TALKING THE

13:50:20 SAME LANGUAGE AND THE BEST WART OF THE UPDATED MOU AT

13:50:25 THE TAMPA BAY COUNCIL AND WE WORK COHESIVELY,

13:50:29 COLLABORATIVELY AND ALL THE ISSUES IN THE TAMPA BAY

13:50:29 AREA.

13:50:33 PART OF THE NETHERLANDS PROJECT, I WAS ABLE TO MEET ALL

13:50:36 OF MY COUNTERPARTS AND INTERESTED PARTIES ALL AROUND

13:50:37 THE GULF STATE.

13:50:40 WE CAN LOOK AT THIS EVEN BEYOND OUR REGION AND BEYOND

13:50:41 THE STATE.

13:50:45 WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR STRENGTH ALL THE WAY OVER TO

13:50:46 HOUSTON IF YOU WILL.

13:50:47 THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WILL MAKE THE

13:50:49 DIFFERENCE FOR US.

13:50:52 IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT A LOT OF OUR -- WE KNOW THIS FROM

13:50:56 THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OUR FUEL SUPPLY COMES IN FROM

13:50:59 THE GULF AND WE HAVE TO COLLECTIVELY LOOK AT THESE

13:51:03 THINGS AND FUEL RESILIENCY AND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE

13:51:04 AND KEY RESOURCES.

13:51:08 AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING MELD AND

13:51:10 THE MAYOR HAS A SIMILAR BACKGROUND.

13:51:15 PARTLY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PARTLY HOMELAND DEFENSE

13:51:18 AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND BUILT ENVIRONMENT SPACE.

13:51:21 IT WILL BE A FANTASTIC BLEND OF EXPERIENCE GOING INTO

13:51:23 THIS PLAN AND I AM REALLY EXCITED FOR IT.

13:51:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

13:51:28 >>BILL CARLSON: FORGET MY NAME.

13:51:31 FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT THE BEST KIND OF GOVERNMENT

13:51:35 HIRES THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST PEOPLE AND YOU AND THE

13:51:38 MAYOR HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING CAN JOB BUILDING YOUR

13:51:40 TEAM AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING BEST PEOPLE AND REALLY

13:51:42 SMART PEOPLE.

13:51:47 I THINK THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE THE BEST HE CAN BE IS

13:51:49 LOOK AT THE BEST IN THE WORLD.

13:51:52 WE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER

13:51:53 CITIES IN FLORIDA.

13:51:58 AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS DO IT THE BEST WAY EITHER.

13:52:00 GETTING WITH THE BEST IN THE WORLD IS A GREAT

13:52:03 INVESTMENT AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU AND THE MAYOR MADE

13:52:08 THAT INVESTMENT AND IT IS WELL WORTH IT AND GLAD WE CAN

13:52:10 FIND OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE THAT THAT OTHER SENIOR

13:52:13 LEADERSHIP WILL GO THROUGH FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO

13:52:15 TRANSPORTATION TO OTHER THINGS.

13:52:17 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BEST IDEAS EVERYWHERE

13:52:21 IN THE WORLD AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN DEEP INTO THAT

13:52:24 AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT AND APPRECIATE YOUR

13:52:26 ANALYTICAL APPROACH TO IT.

13:52:29 GREAT EXPECTATION TO THE POSITION THAT WILL BE FILLED.

13:52:33 IN MY DISTRICT, I GET QUESTIONS ABOUT IT EVERYWHERE YOU

13:52:33 GO.

13:52:36 THE GOOD THING IS YOU ANNOUNCED FROM THE BEGINNING TO

13:52:39 HIRE THIS POSITION AND GIVES ME AN ANSWER AND SAY SOME

13:52:41 TIME SOON WE WILL HAVE THE POSITION.

13:52:43 BUT ONCE THE PERSON COMES ON BOARD, THERE WILL BE SOME

13:52:47 THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT ARE MAYBE EASIER THAT WILL

13:52:50 GET LOTS OF PUBLICITY AND THINGS THAT ARE VERY

13:52:52 DIFFICULT AND WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU SHOWED

13:52:55 FROM THE BEGINNING THAT YOU ARE NOT AFRAID TO TAKE ON

13:52:59 BIG ISSUES AND ADDRESS THEM HEAD ON AND EVEN SPEND THE

13:53:01 MONEY AND COUNCIL SUPPORTED YOU ON IT.

13:53:04 MY SUGGESTION IS, AS WE GET INTO IT, LET'S TRY TO

13:53:08 TACKLE THE BIG THINGS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AGAIN.

13:53:12 AND THE EASY THINGS THAT GET LOTS OF PUBLICITY ARE NICE

13:53:16 TO HAVE, BUT AS YOU KNOW FROM THE CONFERENCE, THE

13:53:19 REALLY BIG ISSUES ARE LOOMING OUT THERE AND SOMEHOW WE

13:53:22 HAVE GOT TO ADDRESS THOSE ESPECIALLY SINCE MY DISTRICT

13:53:24 COULD BE UNDER WATER SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.

13:53:27 WE GOT TO FIGURE WHAT TO DO WITH EVERYBODY'S INVESTMENT

13:53:28 THERE.

13:53:28 >> GREAT POINT.

13:53:29 THANK YOU.

13:53:30 I APPRECIATE THAT.

13:53:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:53:34 ITEM NUMBER 91.

13:53:34 >> ALL RIGHT.

13:53:38 SO THIS IS THE REQUEST FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.

13:53:42 IF I AM CORRECT ON THE -- ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT

13:53:48 FOR MINI WORKSHOPS OVER THE DEPARTMENT.

13:53:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, --

13:53:52 >> YES, THE OPPORTUNITIES.

13:53:56 THAT IS REALLY -- FIRST, LET ME PREFACE THAT -- THOSE

13:53:58 OPTIONS WITH THE CONCEPT.

13:54:00 SO THE CONCEPT.

13:54:05 WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR FY

13:54:09 20, AS WE DID THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS IN FRONT OF

13:54:12 COUNCIL, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT POPPED UP

13:54:15 PROJECT-WISE, DISTRICT-WISE, AND WHAT THE

13:54:19 ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING WITH COUNCIL ON THIS YEAR IS

13:54:22 TO START OUT WITH -- WE HAVE FOUR ADMINISTRATORS

13:54:22 ESSENTIALLY NOW.

13:54:27 THE MAYOR'S PRESS CONFERENCE YESTERDAY SOLIDIFIED THOSE

13:54:30 POSITIONS, AND THE CONCEPT WOULD BE ALL FOUR

13:54:35 ADMINISTRATORS WILL BE IN A PERIOD OF TWO HOURS

13:54:42 EMBEDDED IN A WORKSHOP AND THEIR INPUTS, OUTPUTS,

13:54:49 OUTCOMES AND EFFICIENCIES AND WITH BREVITY BUT ASK

13:54:52 COUNCIL THINGS THAT HAVE COME IN FRONT OF YOU

13:54:56 ITERATIVELY IN THE LAST SIX TO NINE MONTHS AND KIND OF

13:54:59 DEMYSTIFY WHY DEPARTMENT STAFF DOES THINGS THEY DO IN

13:55:01 THE HOPE THAT WHEN THEY GO INTO THE BUDGET PLANNING

13:55:04 CYCLE, YOU WILL BE MORE INFORMED ON THE THINGS THEY

13:55:05 HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

13:55:08 WE COULD TALK ABOUT RIGHT SIZING ORGANIZATIONS.

13:55:11 COULD YOU TALK ABOUT EFFICIENCIES, EFFECTIVENESS.

13:55:15 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY MY FAVORITE IS EQUITY AND

13:55:17 OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES GOING TO THE COMMUNITY AND

13:55:20 YOU WILL HAVE THAT QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.

13:55:23 AGAIN, WHETHER WE DID IT IN 30 MINUTES OR TWO HOURS,

13:55:26 THE BLOCK WAS DESIGNED FOR A MAXIMUM TIME CERTAIN OF

13:55:27 TWO HOURS.

13:55:31 BUT WE CAN DO THAT IN FOUR SESSIONS LEADING UP TO THE

13:55:35 BUDGET PLANS CYCLE AND MYSELF AND THE CFO AND THE

13:55:39 REVENUE AND FINANCE TEAM WILL COME IN AND START WORK

13:55:41 SHOPPING WITH YOU ON IT.

13:55:49 AND THE ULTIMATE END GAME THAT IN THE END OF THE FISCAL

13:55:51 YEAR THAT WE HAVE A SMOOTH PROCESS WITH COUNCIL,

13:55:54 ADMINISTRATION AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE PUBLIC AND

13:55:57 INSTEAD OF THAT COMPRESSED JOURNEY THAT WE HAVE LAST

13:56:00 YEAR GOING INTO THE BUDGET PLANNING CYCLE.

13:56:03 SO THIS IS JUST OUR EXTENSION AS ADMINISTRATION TO

13:56:05 OFFER SOME OF THIS TIME.

13:56:07 IT IS OPEN TO HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.

13:56:10 WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO IT IN ONE FULL DAY.

13:56:11 CHUNK IT UP IN FOUR DAYS.

13:56:13 CHUNK IT UP INTO EIGHT DAYS.

13:56:16 BUT I WOULD NEED TWO HOURS FOR EACH OF THE FOUR

13:56:20 ADMINISTRATORS TO GIVE A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE

13:56:24 ORGANIZATION, THE RESOURCES AND TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO

13:56:26 ASK QUESTIONS THAT SEEM TO SURFACE FREQUENTLY OVER

13:56:30 ITEMS THAT WE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE AGENDA.

13:56:34 AND, AGAIN, TOTALLY UP TO COUNCIL HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT

13:56:36 OR IF YOU WANT TO DO IT.

13:56:37 IF THAT'S CLEAR.

13:56:40 THIS IS JUST THE ADMINISTRATION'S SUGGESTION.

13:56:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?

13:56:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK IT IS A SMART IDEA AND PEOPLE

13:56:50 WILL NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH PEOPLE SAYING WE ARE HOLDING

13:56:52 UP BUDGET.

13:56:54 WE ARE FIGHTING WITH THE MAYOR, ADMINISTRATION.

13:56:57 IT IS A GREAT IDEA, CHIEF OF STAFF, TO HAVE THESE

13:57:02 WORKSHOPS SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ADMINISTRATOR IS

13:57:05 DOING, WHAT ACTUALLY IS TURNING OVER.

13:57:06 WHAT IS NOT.

13:57:10 AND THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO BE SAYING, WHY IS THIS NOT

13:57:11 HAPPEN.

13:57:13 AND MY COMMUNITY IS SAYING IT SO I KNOW.

13:57:15 THIS IS THE KEY FACTOR TO KNOW -- TO KNOW.

13:57:17 SO I AM ALL IN FAVOR.

13:57:20 I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE ALL -- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE

13:57:22 THOSE INDEPENDENT SESSIONS TO WHERE I COULD BE FOCUSED

13:57:29 ON ONE ADMINISTRATOR IN THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT VERSUS

13:57:33 TRYING TO CRAM ALL THIS STUFF IN.

13:57:35 SO I PREFER TO HAVE THE SESSIONS.

13:57:36 IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?

13:57:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

13:57:39 SO I WAS LOOKING AT THIS.

13:57:42 AND I LIKE -- I AM OPEN TO WHATEVER.

13:57:46 A FULL DAY OF EIGHT HOURS -- IT IS LIKE A FULL SCHOOL

13:57:51 DAY, BUT THE FOUR TWO-HOUR SESSIONS TO COINCIDE WITH

13:57:55 CURRENT WORKSHOPS SO BETWEEN MARCH, APRIL, MAY, JUNE.

13:58:01 AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID STAY FOCUSED.

13:58:03 ONCE A MONTH UP TO THE BUDGET TIME MAKES THE MOST

13:58:03 SENSE.

13:58:05 THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.

13:58:07 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHERS FEEL?

13:58:08 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

13:58:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH BOTH OF YOU.

13:58:14 AND I THANK YOU FOR CHIEF BENNETT FOR THE IDEA.

13:58:17 I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA, AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO

13:58:18 TWO HOURS EVERY MONTH.

13:58:24 AND ALSO IT MIGHT BE IMPRESS IT IN WHAT YOU ARE

13:58:26 SUGGESTING, JOHN.

13:58:31 IF YOU HAVE UNDERNEATH YOU AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, YOU

13:58:33 HAVE THREE OR FOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT THEY WILL ALSO

13:58:35 BE IN ATTENDANCE.

13:58:36 >> THEY WILL BE HERE.

13:58:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS HOWEVER

13:58:40 YOU WANT TO PRESENT IT.

13:58:44 AND GIVE YOU HERE THE MEAT IN CASE ISSUES COME UP OR

13:58:45 WHAT ARE YOU.

13:58:46 SO I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.

13:58:49 I THINK IF WE WENT EIGHT HOURS LIKE THE SCHOOL DAY.

13:58:53 SOME OF US WILL HAVE TO CUT CLASS LIKE WE USED TO.

13:58:59 >> I WILL GIVE YOU A DIPLOMA.

13:59:01 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THAT IS EXACTLY THE PLAN.

13:59:04 THE REASON I WAS GOING TO USE THE SINGLE ADMINISTRATOR

13:59:05 TO PRESENT IS EFFICIENCY.

13:59:09 YOU TURN OVER THE MIC FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, TWO HOURS IS

13:59:10 GONE.

13:59:12 EACH PRESENTATION WILL LOOK SIMILAR.

13:59:14 THE DATA WILL BE DIFFERENT.

13:59:18 PARKS WILL LOOK DIFFERENT THAN HUMAN RESOURCES, ETC.

13:59:26 YOU WILL SEE IN CONTEXT THE INPUTS, OUTPUTS ARE OUTPUTS

13:59:31 AND EFFICIENCIES AND THE CADRE OF DIRECTORS.

13:59:35 IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND TALK OF

13:59:39 ALL OF THOSE Q & AS WILL BE HERE AND WE WILL TRY TO

13:59:43 COMPRESS OUR PRESENTATION TO HAVE MORE Q & A TIME.

13:59:48 BUT I THINK BETWEEN FOUR OPPORTUNITIES IN TWO-HOUR

13:59:49 WORKSHOPS WILL GET US THROUGH THIS.

13:59:52 AND WE WILL GO INTO A BUDGET FINALIZATION.

13:59:54 YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING AND VICE VERSA

13:59:58 AND WE GET TO THE BUDGET HEARINGS FOR THE PUBLIC AND WE

14:00:01 SEEM UNIFIED WITH OUR UNDERSTANDING WITH OUR DECISION

14:00:03 PACKAGES AND THE THINGS THAT WORK FOR THE DISTRICT AS

14:00:07 WELL AS THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE CITY AND BY THE TIME

14:00:11 WE GET TO THE BUDGET FINAL VOTES, THERE IS BE NO

14:00:15 MYSTERIOUS THINGS GOING ON FOR US TO SHOWCASE.

14:00:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE ONLY THING -- MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE

14:00:22 OTHER THING AND I SAY THIS RESPECTFULLY, BUT JUST ONE

14:00:23 OUT OF SEVEN.

14:00:27 BUT WHAT I WANT TO SEE FOCUSED ON -- AGAIN MAYBE THIS

14:00:31 IS IMPLICIT IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING -- IS THE NEW STUFF.

14:00:33 WE HAVE ALL BEEN AROUND.

14:00:34 >> OF COURSE.

14:00:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN A VARIETY OF CAPACITIES.

14:00:40 WE SORT OF KNOW THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY

14:00:40 AND ETC.

14:00:41 AND THE NEW STUFF.

14:00:45 THIS IS THE MAYOR'S INITIATIVE ON SUCH AND UP OR

14:00:49 PERHAPS EVEN -- EVEN MIGHT BE IN RESPONSE WITH SOME OF

14:00:52 THE DISCUSSION OFF THIS HEARD IN THIS ROOM.

14:00:52 >> EXACTLY.

14:00:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT TO SAY -- I AM NOT

14:00:57 DIMINISHING THE DAY TO DAY STUFF.

14:00:59 THAT IS IMPORTANT TOO, BUT REALLY THE NEW INITIATIVES

14:01:03 AND THAT SORT OF THING I CAN WE CAN HAVE DYNAMIC

14:01:07 CONVERSATION ON THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

14:01:10 >> EXACTLY WHERE WE WENT AHEAD WITH THIS.

14:01:12 WE EXPECT TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT YOU ALREADY

14:01:15 SEE AND HOPEFULLY THE COMMUNITY ENJOYS AND TALK ABOUT

14:01:18 WHERE WE ARE MOVING THE CITY THROUGH THESE KEY

14:01:21 STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.

14:01:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:01:26 >>BILL CARLSON: MY INTEREST WILL BE THE SAME TO

14:01:28 REBUILD THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.

14:01:33 ONE THING LAST TIME YOU ALL AND WE -- YOU WEREN'T EVEN

14:01:37 HERE YET, BUT MAYOR AND WE INHERITED THE LAST BUDGET.

14:01:41 THE MAYOR WAS ABLE TO TWEAK A LITTLE BIT AND WE ALL GOT

14:01:44 LOBBIED A LOT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF IT AND PUSHED A

14:01:47 COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE ALL AGREED ON WERE GOOD

14:01:52 DECISIONS TO MAKE BUT NOW I AM GETTING REQUESTS FROM

14:01:55 ALL KIND OF NONPROFITS AND EVERYTHING AND I HOPE THAT

14:02:01 WE CAN KIND OF, AS YOU SAID, BUT I WILL SAY IT MORE

14:02:05 EXPLICITLY, SORT IT ALL OUT IF THE NONPROFITS WANT

14:02:08 SOMETHING, THEY NEED TO LET US KNOW OR YOU UP EARLY

14:02:10 BECAUSE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS I AM GOING TO SAY NO THIS

14:02:11 TIME.

14:02:14 THEY EITHER KNOW ABOUT THE SCHEDULE OR DON'T

14:02:14 PARTICIPATE.

14:02:17 >> I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK, AND THE MAYOR HAS

14:02:20 APPROVED THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND MYSELF TO WORK

14:02:28 ON A STRATEGIC APPROACH FOR OUR NONPROFITS AND WE NEED

14:02:30 TO SEE NEW OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SPACE IN THE ART AND

14:02:33 ENTERTAINMENT AND THINGS THAT BENEFIT THE CITY AND WE

14:02:36 NEED TO STRATIFY OUR FUNDING ACROSS MORE OPPORTUNITIES

14:02:40 THAT HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY BUT AT THE SAME TIME, DELIVER

14:02:43 CONSISTENT BUT THEN NEW OPPORTUNITIES ACROSS THE CITY.

14:02:45 SO WE ARE HEADING DOWN THE EXACT ROAD YOU ARE TALKING

14:02:46 ABOUT.

14:02:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE A

14:02:52 MOTION FOR BENEFIT OF THE CLERK AND MR. SHELBY.

14:02:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH WILL BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW

14:02:54 IT.

14:02:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF

14:02:59 OPTION TWO BEGINNING IN MARCH.

14:03:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

14:03:06 DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN GUDES ON OPTION TWO ON THIS

14:03:07 MEMO.

14:03:08 I HAVE HERE.

14:03:09 ALL IN FAVOR.

14:03:12 >>CLERK: CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION DOES THAT SPECIFY

14:03:15 A TIME CERTAIN?

14:03:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO IT AT THE END OF A WORKSHOP DAY

14:03:20 AS A LAST ITEM.

14:03:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STARTING LIKE 10:30 OR SOMETHING --

14:03:24 OR 10:00?

14:03:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU TELL ME.

14:03:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTION.

14:03:32 MARCH AND APRIL WILL HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS BUT MAY AND

14:03:33 JUNE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE MUCH.

14:03:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:30 TIME CERTAIN.

14:03:40 >> YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THEY WILL BE DONE IF YOU PUT IT

14:03:41 AT THE END.

14:03:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SAY 10:00.

14:03:46 IF IT IS 10:30.

14:03:50 >> 10 FOR TIME CERTAIN FOR THE WORKSHOPS DAYS BEGINNING

14:03:53 IN MARCH.

14:03:54 >> SOUNDS GOOD.

14:03:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNANIMOUS YES.

14:03:59 NEXT UP, NUMBER 82.

14:04:02 REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:04:14 THIS IS ON LEAF BLOWERS.

14:04:16 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU, REBECCA KERT, LEGAL

14:04:18 DEPARTMENT.

14:04:22 ON ITEM 82 WHICH IS A ITEM -- WHERE FROM CITY COUNCIL

14:04:24 TO COME BACK WITH TWO ORDINANCES.

14:04:27 ONE WAS TO CLARIFY THE SECTION OF THE CODE THAT

14:04:30 PROHIBITS BLOWING DEBRIS INTO THE STREETS AND OUR

14:04:33 DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND TO CLARIFY THAT THAT APPLIES TO

14:04:35 LEAF BLOWERS.

14:04:37 I HAVE PRESIDED LANGUAGE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED

14:04:42 PREVIOUSLY AMENDING 21-9 THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR

14:04:43 BACKUP.

14:04:47 IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE YOU CAN GO FORWARD AND HAVE IT

14:04:49 FOR FIRST READING TODAY.

14:04:51 NO PUBLIC HEARING AT FIRST READING.

14:04:54 THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE AT SECOND READING.

14:04:59 THE OTHER THAT I SUBMITTED TO YOU WAS NOISE ORDINANCE

14:05:02 FOR POWER TOOLS WITH THE NOISE MAINTENANCE.

14:05:07 I COMMITTED LANGUAGE BUT I AM ASKING THAT YOU HAVE IT

14:05:09 TO A LATER DATE FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH

14:05:14 ADMINISTRATION TO GET A BETTER GRASP OF THE REAL WORLD

14:05:18 IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT I DRAFTED AND SOME CONCERNS OF THE

14:05:20 PEOPLE WHO ARE CHARGED WITH MAINTAINING THE

14:05:23 RIGHT-OF-WAY AND DON'T WANT ANY UNINTENTIONAL

14:05:28 CONSEQUENCES AND MAYBE A DIFFERENT WAY TO DRAFT IT TO

14:05:31 RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GET THAT

14:05:32 TODAY.

14:05:37 IN SUM, THE CHANGES TO 20-9 IN YOUR BACKUP, THAT

14:05:41 ORDINANCE IS PREPARED AND READY TO BE READ IF YOU SO

14:05:45 WANT AND THE OTHER TO BE CONTINUED TO A LATER DATE.

14:05:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

14:05:51 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WERE THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.

14:05:54 >>BILL CARLSON: WE SPOKE IN ADVANCE AND I AGREED WITH

14:05:54 WHAT SHE SUGGESTED.

14:05:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN MOVE ON THE FIRST ONE AND

14:05:59 THE SECOND YOU ASKED FOR MORE TIME?

14:06:02 >>BILL CARLSON: DID YOU PICK THE DATE FOR THE MOVING?

14:06:05 >>REBECCA KERT: SINCE I WON'T BE HERE, I DON'T WANT TO

14:06:07 COMMIT OTHER PEOPLE.

14:06:09 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WILL PUSH IT OUT A FEW MONTHS JUST

14:06:13 BECAUSE THE -- IT WASN'T UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE THAT WE

14:06:18 STARTED HEARING ABOUT ALL THESE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES

14:06:21 OF STREET CLEANING IN YBOR, FOR EXAMPLE.

14:06:24 AND I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY WE CAN IDENTIFY ALL THE

14:06:27 ISSUES FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS.

14:06:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A DATE YOU RECOMMEND?

14:06:37 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE IT TO APRIL 16.

14:06:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS FOR THE SECOND ORDINANCE

14:06:42 HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 82.

14:06:47 >>REBECCA KERT: THE ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 14.

14:06:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL APRIL 15.

14:06:52 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

14:06:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

14:06:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

14:06:58 AYE.

14:07:02 ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE?

14:07:04 WILL SOMEONE LIKE TO READ IT?

14:07:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST SO WE ARE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT WE

14:07:16 ARE DOING OVER AND ABOVE THE -- JUST THE TITLE.

14:07:19 LOOKS LIKE THE CHANGE WE ARE MAKING WITH REGARD TO THE

14:07:22 BLOWERS AS RELATED TO NOISE.

14:07:25 THAT'S ABOUT -- WE ARE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PARAGRAPH

14:07:31 THAT BASICALLY INCLUDES LAWNMOWERS, CHIPPERS, CLIPPERS,

14:07:37 BLOWERS, TOOLS AND TRACTORS, AND SPEAKS TO -- I DON'T

14:07:41 KNOW, TELL US HOW THIS WORKS?

14:07:44 >> CHAPTER 14 IS THE ONE WE ARE REQUESTING THE NOISE

14:07:44 ONE.

14:07:46 THE ADDITIONAL TIME --

14:07:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WANT MORE TIME ON THAT?

14:07:50 >>REBECCA KERT: YES, TO REVIEW.

14:07:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE OTHER ONE PUBLIC DRAINAGE.

14:07:55 >>REBECCA KERT: AMENDING 21-9.

14:07:58 THAT IS SIMPLY A CLARIFICATION TO CALL TO EVERYONE'S

14:08:01 ATTENTION THAT LAWN BLOWERS ARE INCLUDED IN THE

14:08:06 PROHIBITION OF -- OF PUTTING THINGS IN THE DRAINAGE

14:08:07 SYSTEM.

14:08:10 THERE ARE ALREADY A PROHIBITION OF PUTTING ANY FOREIGN

14:08:13 DEBRIS INTO OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, BUT CITY COUNCIL

14:08:16 THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY AND CALL ATTENTION

14:08:21 TO THE FACT THAT LEAF BLOWERS AND OTHER TYPE OF BLOWERS

14:08:23 ARE SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED IN THAT PROHIBITION.

14:08:25 AND SO IT IS A CLARIFICATION.

14:08:29 CITY COUNCIL THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION.

14:08:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE PENALTY AND ENFORCEMENT

14:08:32 MECHANISM?

14:08:35 >>REBECCA KERT: YES, A CIVIL CITATION AND WE DISCUSSED

14:08:39 EARLIER IF IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS VIOLATING SECTION

14:08:47 21-9, IT IS A LEVEL ONE CITATION WHICH IS A $75 FINE.

14:08:49 IF IT IS PART OF A BUSINESS, THEN IT IS A LEVEL 4

14:08:53 CITATION WHICH IS $450 FINE.

14:08:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE ALLOWED TO DIFFERENTIATE

14:08:58 BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES?

14:09:01 >>REBECCA KERT: YES, WE ARE AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THIS

14:09:03 ORDINANCE IS INTO PLACE.

14:09:05 THIS IS NOT NEW.

14:09:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE KNOW OF THE PAST ENFORCEMENT

14:09:08 OF THIS?

14:09:11 >>REBECCA KERT: YES, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS

14:09:17 WHEN THAT CAME BEFORE YOU AND SAL REGGIE RO WAS THERE

14:09:23 AND NOT QUITE A BIT OF REINFORCEMENT AND BOTH PEOPLE ON

14:09:26 THE CITY SIDE AND AS WELL AS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY

14:09:30 ARE AWARE THIS IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED AND WILL HELP

14:09:32 THROUGH ENFORCEMENT DOWN THE LINE.

14:09:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HAS THIS BEEN MASSAGED OUT INTO

14:09:37 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS?

14:09:42 I AM VERY CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, MR. AND MRS. HOMEOWNER

14:09:45 IS OUT THERE BLOWING ON A SATURDAY MORNING JUST LIKE

14:09:48 THEY ALWAYS HAVE CLEANING UP THEIR YARD AND DOING THEIR

14:09:48 THING.

14:09:51 I AM NOT ADVOCATING THAT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO

14:09:55 BLOW YOUR LEAVES OUT ON TO YOUR STREET.

14:10:01 I THINK A LOT OF I'M PEOPLE REALIZE THE CITY HAS THE

14:10:05 STREET SWEEPER THAT'S TAKE THE LEAVES OUT OF THE

14:10:06 STREET.

14:10:10 AND I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS A GREAT THING FOR OUR

14:10:12 SYSTEM OR ANYTHING ELSE.

14:10:15 BUT THEY COULD BE DOING THIS FOR DECADES AND ALL OF A

14:10:19 SUDDEN SOMEBODY, AN OFFICER OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER

14:10:22 COMES ALONG AND SAYS, BY THE WAY, HERE IS YOUR $75

14:10:24 TICKET.

14:10:34 I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE GET THE WORD OUT -- IF

14:10:37 WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS GET THE WORD OUT SO IT IS

14:10:42 WELL PUBLICIZED AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE MAYOR'S

14:10:46 OFFICE DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO CIRCULATE THIS -- NO

14:10:49 PUN INTENDED -- WELL, MAYBE PUN INTENDED.

14:10:51 I WANT TO GO CAUTIOUSLY ON THIS.

14:10:55 I KNOW IT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS A LONG TIME, BUT WE ARE

14:10:56 SORT OF BEEFING IT UP A BIT.

14:10:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:11:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL REMEMBER THE GENESIS OF IT.

14:11:03 ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS

14:11:06 FLOODING AND ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE

14:11:08 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND LEADERS ARE VERY IN FAVOR

14:11:11 OF IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT ABOUT SOMEBODY'S RIGHT TO BLOW

14:11:14 THINGS INTO THE STREET, BUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY

14:11:17 SPENDS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PULLING THAT STUFF OUT YOU

14:11:20 HAVE THE GUTTER AND THE STORM DRAINS SO THE ROADS DON'T

14:11:20 FLOOD.

14:11:25 AND SO THE IDEAS WILL SAVE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY BY

14:11:27 DOING THIS.

14:11:30 AND IDEALLY THERE WILL BE EDUCATION ON IT THAT WE DON'T

14:11:33 CONTROL THAT SIDE OF IT AND IDEALLY EDUCATION AND

14:11:36 PEOPLE WILL KNOW ABOUT IT AND SOCIALIZE FLEW THE

14:11:39 NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT'S -- THIS -- THIS IS SOMETHING

14:11:42 SMALL THAT CAN SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF

14:11:45 TROUBLE WITH FLOODING.

14:11:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:11:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

14:11:55 THE LIKE COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID NOT JUST IN THE INLET

14:11:56 WHEN YOU PUT IT IN.

14:11:58 IT GETS TO THE PLANT AND TAKE IT OUT.

14:12:04 AN ADDITIONAL COST THERE OF NOT ONLY PERSONNEL POWER

14:12:08 AND CHEMICALS AND THINGS YOU NEED TO DO TO CLEAN IT UP.

14:12:11 THAT IS REALLY -- I HATE TO SAY IT BUT CHAPTER 27 IF I

14:12:14 RECALL FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

14:12:17 IF THE PUBLIC KNOW IT IS BY NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET

14:12:20 EDUCATION NOT TO PUT JUNK IN THE SEWER LINE.

14:12:23 THAT IS A NORMAL ACTIVITY THAT YOU DON'T DO AND THEY

14:12:25 HAVE GOTTEN TO THE POINT THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN AND PUT

14:12:27 IT JUST THE WAY IT IS.

14:12:29 IF YOU GO BY IN THE MORNING AND DRIVE BY ANY

14:12:33 INTERSECTION IN THE MORNING BETWEEN 7:30 AND 9:00, YOU

14:12:36 WILL SEE COMMERCIAL INDIVIDUALS GOING INTO -- INTO THE

14:12:37 DRAINS.

14:12:38 IT IS NOT TODAY.

14:12:40 IT WASN'T YESTERDAY.

14:12:43 BUT GOING ON FOR THE LAST 20, 30 YEARS.

14:12:48 SO THAT -- THEY MAY KNOW BETTER, BUT I MAKE A

14:12:49 SUGGESTION.

14:12:52 WE MAY ALLOW WATER BILLS EVERY MONTH.

14:12:54 AND THAT WATER BILL.

14:12:57 ADD PAPER THAT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE

14:13:00 PRINTING OF IT TO NOTIFY AT LEAST THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

14:13:02 WATER CONSUMPTION IN THE CITY.

14:13:05 THAT WOULD BE 99% OF THE TAXPAYERS.

14:13:08 AND THEN MAIL OUT A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION TO THEM AND

14:13:12 LET GOD HELP THEM IF THEY PUT IF TO THE SEWER.

14:13:14 BECAUSE I CAN'T.

14:13:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN WE HEAR FROM MISS DUNCAN WHO IS

14:13:24 IN CHARGE OF THAT STREET.

14:13:27 IF THAT IS OKAY WITH MR. CHAIRMAN?

14:13:30 ANY STAFF OPINION ON THIS?

14:13:34 MR. CARMEN IS IDENTIFYING BIG NUMBERS IN TERMS OF

14:13:37 CLEANING OUT THE STORMWATER SEWERS AND I KNOW THAT'S

14:13:39 TRUE.

14:13:42 BUT ANYWAY, HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED INTO THIS AND HOW DO

14:13:45 YOU FEEL OF NOTIFICATION OF THE COMMUNITY?

14:13:47 >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, TRANSPORTATION AND

14:13:49 STORMWATER SERVICES.

14:13:53 IT IS A BIT OF A TIGHTROPE AS MANY THINGS ARE WHEN IT

14:13:55 DEALS WITH HABITS PEOPLE HAVE AND THE CONSEQUENCE

14:13:57 THAT'S THEY CREATE.

14:14:01 WE WORKED WITH MISS KERT ON THIS, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY

14:14:05 AGREEABLE TO LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE

14:14:09 THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR A GOOD REASON WHY WE

14:14:10 ARE DOING THIS.

14:14:13 BUT I DO HAVE TO AGREE WITH MOST OF YOU OF THE THINGS

14:14:14 YOU SAID.

14:14:17 THIS DOES CREATE A PROBLEM FOR OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM

14:14:20 EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN A LITTLE BETTER PLACE WHEN IT

14:14:22 COMES TO OUR MAINTENANCE BECAUSE OF THE FEE WE HAVE NOW

14:14:22 TO WORK WITH.

14:14:26 WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO USE AS AN EXCUSE TO ADDRESS

14:14:31 THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE HAVING WITH HOW THE SYSTEM IS

14:14:33 BEING TREATED BY SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS.

14:14:37 SO WE ARE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO

14:14:41 THAT MATTER AND WHATEVER THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION, WE

14:14:45 ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH EVERYONE ON THAT.

14:14:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

14:14:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS KERT, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT

14:14:53 BACK TO OUR ATTENTION.

14:14:57 I REMEMBER 12, 16 YEARS OLD WITH PEOPLE IN BEACH PARK,

14:15:01 SUNSET PARK, CULBREATH ISLES.

14:15:03 PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT THE STUFF WAS BLOWING DOWN IN

14:15:06 THE STORMWATER AND TO THE CANALS.

14:15:09 AND THEY WANTED DREDGING TO TAKE PLAYING.

14:15:12 I THINK THIS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA WILL HELP OUT

14:15:15 IMMENSELY, AND NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIR, I WILL

14:15:17 BE HAPPY TO READ THE ORDINANCE.

14:15:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE IT AWAY.

14:15:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING OF THE

14:15:23 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO

14:15:26 LEAF BLOWERS BEING USED TO BLOW DEBRIS IN THE PUBLIC

14:15:29 DRAINAGE SYSTEM MAKING REVISIONS TO THE TAMPA CODE

14:15:32 CHAPTER 21, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AMENDING SECTION

14:15:38 21.9, PROTECTION FROM PUBLIC DRAINAGE SYSTEM, REPEALING

14:15:43 ALL ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING

14:15:45 SEVERABILITY AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE.

14:15:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

14:15:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH

14:15:54 CITRO AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:15:58 AND A QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:16:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT

14:16:04 THAT MIGHT THINK TO A FIRST WARNING.

14:16:08 AGAIN I EXPRESSED MY CONCERN A LITTLE WHILE AGO IN

14:16:12 REGARD TO FOLKS THAT DON'T KNOW AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HIT

14:16:20 WITH $75 TICKET WITH SOMETHING THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR

14:16:21 DECADES.

14:16:22 OUT OF IGNORANCE.

14:16:24 THEY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

14:16:26 AND ANYWAY, I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THE LANGUAGE

14:16:34 WOULD WORK AND HOW THE APPLICABILITY WILL WORK BUT THAT

14:16:37 TO PROVIDE A WARNING INTO THAT AS A FIRST WARNING

14:16:40 INSTEAD OF A STRAIGHT UP.

14:16:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT?

14:16:47 >>BILL CARLSON: DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU LOOKED AT THAT?

14:16:50 >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:16:55 WE LOOKED AT THE MOTOR VEHICLE AND THIS WAS NOT PART OF

14:16:56 THIS.

14:16:58 THE WAY WE WORK FOR THE BUSINESSES A REQUIREMENT THAT A

14:17:00 WRITTEN NOTICE BE SENT TO THE BUSINESS BEFORE THE

14:17:02 BUSINESS IS HELD LIABLE.

14:17:06 THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE FOR THE BUSINESS PORTION OF IT.

14:17:08 I WOULD LET CITY COUNCIL KNOW AND I WOULD BRING THIS UP

14:17:11 -- I AM GOING TO BRING THIS UP WHEN WE GO TO THE NEXT

14:17:12 PART ABOUT MOTOR VEHICLES.

14:17:16 YOU HAVE ALREADY HAD A VERY DIFFICULT -- THE CITY HAD A

14:17:18 DIFFICULT TIME ENFORCING THIS FOR THE REASONS WE

14:17:21 DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AT YOUR LAST FEW TIMES YOU

14:17:24 DISCUSSED THIS WHICH IS -- WE DON'T HAVE A SQUAD OF

14:17:28 PEOPLE WHO IS OUT ON THE STREETS NECESSARILY TASKED

14:17:29 WITH IDENTIFYING THIS.

14:17:31 AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE OUT

14:17:33 THERE EVERY DAY IN THE SAME LOCATION.

14:17:37 SO WE COULD ADD A WARNING, BUT IF YOU ADD A WARNING, IT

14:17:39 IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT IS GOING TO BE TRACKED IN A WAY

14:17:43 THAT NEXT TIME THAT PERSON WILL GET A CITATION.

14:17:44 THAT IS A POLICY DECISION.

14:17:48 I CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE OR SOMEBODY CAN AMEND THE

14:17:51 ORDINANCE TO IDENTIFY THAT FOR YOU IF THAT IS WHAT YOU

14:17:55 WOULD LIKE TO DO.

14:17:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAID BUSINESS ALSO GET A

14:17:58 WARNING?

14:18:01 >>REBECCA KERT: THE -- YES, THAT IS BECAUSE THE

14:18:04 BUSINESS IS NOT OUT THERE WHEN -- THE BUSINESS ENTITY

14:18:07 IS NOT THE ENTITY WHO IS OUT THERE BLOWING IT.

14:18:11 SO IF AN EMPLOYEE IS OUT THERE DOING THE LEAF BLOWING

14:18:16 OR SOMEHOW PUTTING DEBRIS INTO OUR -- INTO OUR DRAINAGE

14:18:17 SYSTEM.

14:18:20 THEN BEFORE THE BUSINESS IS HELD LIABLE BECAUSE THEY

14:18:23 ARE NOT ACTUALLY THERE, A WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE

14:18:26 BUSINESS AND IF ANY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES DOES IT AGAIN

14:18:28 THAN THE BUSINESS IS ALSO HELD LIABLE FOR THAT EVEN

14:18:30 THOUGH THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY THERE DOING IT.

14:18:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT AGAIN

14:18:42 WE ARE GIVING BUSINESSES A WARNING A SHOT OVER THE

14:18:47 BOUGH ON THIS AND THE HOMEOWNERS DESERVE THE SAME.

14:18:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ALWAYS WANT TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC

14:18:51 WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING INTO ACTION.

14:18:55 I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, ANY SATURDAY YOU GO ON OR

14:18:58 ANY SUNDAY, PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE BLOWING THEIR LAWNS.

14:19:01 SO MY ONLY PROBLEM IS, WHAT EDUCATION ARE WE GOING TO

14:19:04 TELL THE PUBLIC HOW TO BLOW THEIR LAWNS.

14:19:05 HOW SHOULD THEY BE BLOWING IT?

14:19:07 THE KEY IS EDUCATION HERE.

14:19:10 AND WE NEED TO DO A JOB OF COMMUNICATING THAT TO THE

14:19:15 PUBLIC ABOUT LEAVES OR BLOWING GRASS, BLOWING DIRT.

14:19:17 I THINK PEOPLE DON'T KNOW TO KNOW.

14:19:20 THEY GET OUT AND THEY -- THEY GET A BLOWER.

14:19:23 I AM GOING TO MAKE MY YARD LOOK NICE.

14:19:25 MY DRIVEWAY IS DIRTY.

14:19:27 AND WHERE DOES THAT DIRT GO?

14:19:30 WHAT DIRECTION SHOULD I BE POINTING THE BLOWER TO

14:19:33 CAPTURE THAT DEBRIS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

14:19:36 IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN ACTION WE NEED A

14:19:39 EDUCATION COMPONENT TO THAT SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW THE DO'S

14:19:44 AND DON'TS ON HOW TO BLOW THEIR YARD AND NOT PUT STUFF

14:19:45 IN THE DRAIN.

14:19:49 THAT IS A KEY COMPONENT, AND WITH YOUR MOTION, THERE

14:19:54 CAN BE AN EDUCATION COMPONENT IN THERE BECAUSE YOU WILL

14:19:57 NOT BE ABLE TO REINFORCE WITH THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE

14:19:58 IN THE CITY.

14:20:00 HARD TO DO THAT.

14:20:02 IT IS HARD TO GO OUT THERE AND HAVE THAT KIND OF

14:20:03 ENFORCEMENT.

14:20:05 >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:20:08 YOU CERTAINLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS

14:20:11 ORDINANCE AT ALL, YOU CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST THAT THE

14:20:14 ADMINISTRATION CONSIDER AVENUES FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH ON

14:20:16 THIS SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE.

14:20:19 IT IS ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT CERTAINLY YOU CAN REQUEST

14:20:22 THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH.

14:20:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAID IT IS IN PLACE?

14:20:26 >> PROHIBITION.

14:20:28 IT IS ALREADY PROHIBITED.

14:20:31 CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT WE CLARIFY THIS PROVISION

14:20:35 SO IT WAS MORE OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THAT THIS ACTION WAS

14:20:36 ALREADY PROHIBITED.

14:20:38 IT ALWAYS WAS PROHIBITED TO PUT ANYTHING IN THE

14:20:41 DRAINAGE BY BLOWERS OR NOT.

14:20:44 NOW SPECIFICALLY POINTS OUT TO EVERYONE SO PEOPLE WILL

14:20:47 BE ON A HIGHER LEVEL OF NOTICE THIS CONDUCT IS

14:20:51 PROHIBITED AND MAKES A LOT OF SENSE SINCE YOU

14:20:55 PREVIOUSLY HAD INFORMATION SUPPLIED TO YOU FROM ONE

14:20:58 PREVIOUS HEARING OR WORKSHOP THAT WE WERE HAVING

14:21:01 CHALLENGES ENFORCING THOSE.

14:21:04 AND THAT PEOPLE PROBABLY WERE OUT THERE DOING IT.

14:21:06 SO I THINK THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, AND THE

14:21:09 APPROPRIATE MOTION WOULD BE TO REQUEST THE

14:21:12 ADMINISTRATION TO DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH ON THIS

14:21:14 ISSUE.

14:21:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PUBLIC OUTREACH.

14:21:20 YOU SAY ON THE BOOKS ALREADY PER SE.

14:21:22 A PAMPHLET WITH THIS.

14:21:23 SOMETHING WE HAVE IN PLACE?

14:21:26 >>REBECCA KERT: I AM NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING.

14:21:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM NOT AWARE OF IT EITHER AND I WAS

14:21:32 A COP A LONG TIME AND I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE -- YOU

14:21:34 GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE

14:21:35 THIS.

14:21:39 SO THAT'S I DIDN'T DROVE THAT QUESTION.

14:21:43 MAYBE A PAMPHLET THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS

14:21:45 CAN BE GIVEN SO THEY KNOW.

14:21:48 A THAT IS MY COMMENT ON THAT.

14:21:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:21:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND -- I THINK IT HAS BEEN

14:21:56 IN THERE FOR 15, 20 YEARS, THAT LONG.

14:21:57 WAS THAT ENFORCED?

14:21:59 NOT TO ANY DEGREE.

14:22:04 NOT TO ANY DEGREE AT ALL, BY ANYONE.

14:22:07 I AM NOT HERE TO CAST STONES ON ANYONE.

14:22:10 BUT MAYBE THE MOTION OUGHT TO BE WE SEND A DIRECTIVE TO

14:22:13 THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEND OUT -- AND THE WATER BILL, A

14:22:16 SEPARATE ITEM IN A DIFFERENT COLOR.

14:22:20 YOU KNOW WITH RED, YOU WILL GET FINED SO MUCH IF YOU DO

14:22:22 THIS, THIS AND THIS.

14:22:25 EXPLAIN THAT AND THE NEXT WATER BILL IN THE NEXT THREE

14:22:26 WEEKS.

14:22:29 THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AT THE MOST THREE WEEKS.

14:22:32 WHAT IS THE LAW REGARDING THE PASSAGE OF SOMETHING IN

14:22:33 FIRST READING.

14:22:36 CAN YOU HOLD IT FOR MORE THAN TWO WEEKS?

14:22:38 >>REBECCA KERT: CERTAINLY, YES.

14:22:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM SAYING IN ORDER TO

14:22:44 FACILITATE BOTH SIDES IT WILL HAVE COMMON SENSE TO ASK

14:22:48 THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEND INSIDE THE WATER BILL WHICH

14:22:50 DOESN'T COST MUCH.

14:22:54 NO STAMP COST IN IT BECAUSE IT IS A -- ONE PIECE OF

14:22:58 PAPER ABOUT THREE INCHES OR SEVEN OR EIGHT INCHES LONG

14:22:59 AND TELLS YOU THE FINE.

14:23:03 TO GIVE FIRST WARNING THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO

14:23:06 FIND OUT WHO WAS WARNED, WHO WAS NOT WARNED IT BECOMES

14:23:08 A NIGHTMARE.

14:23:10 EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A COMPUTER.

14:23:12 IT BECOMES A NIGHTMARE.

14:23:17 SOMEBODY SAYS A HE WAS WARNED AND I WASN'T.

14:23:18 WHO KNOWS WHO WAS WARNED.

14:23:21 I AM SURE THE MEDIA WILL PICK UP AND SAY SOMETHING.

14:23:22 I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WILL.

14:23:25 BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FAKE NEWS.

14:23:26 THEY ARE REAL NEWS.

14:23:31 AND WHAT I AM SAYING WE DO THAT, PASS THIS TODAY, AND

14:23:33 PUT OUT FOR SIX WEEKS SO EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE.

14:23:37 AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW IN SIX WEEKS AND GET IT IN

14:23:41 THE WATER BILL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU.

14:23:44 IT WILL NEVER BE ENFORCED AGAIN.

14:23:46 THAT IS JUST A SUGGESTION.

14:23:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO.

14:23:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRILLIANT IDEA, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:24:00 WE LOOK AT OUR TELEPHONE AND IPADS, WE HARDLY LOOK DOWN

14:24:01 AT THE GROUND.

14:24:04 FOR YEARS -- FOR YEARS LITTLE PLACARDS.

14:24:13 THEY STARTED OUT THIS BIG ON EVERY STORMWATER DRAIN.

14:24:14 DO NOT DUMP.

14:24:15 FLOWS INTO THE BAY.

14:24:18 THEY ARE NOW DOWN TO ABOUT THIS SIZE AND SAY THE SAME

14:24:19 THING.

14:24:22 MOST PEOPLE, THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE AS THEIR

14:24:26 DUMPING WHATEVER OIL, WHATEVER DEBRIS.

14:24:30 IT WOULD SAY DO NOT DUMP.

14:24:31 FLOWS INTO THE BAY.

14:24:32 MOST PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THIS.

14:24:34 AND I FEEL THAT MOST PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW.

14:24:37 I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ON YOUR WATER BILL.

14:24:39 SEND IT OUT.

14:24:40 LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

14:24:46 I AM SURE WHATEVER ENFORCEMENT WILL BE DOING THIS TPD

14:24:49 OR CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL NOT BE WRITING CITATIONS

14:24:52 IMMEDIATELY AND MORE THAN LIKELY SAY, RULES HAVE

14:24:55 CHANGED.

14:24:57 DON'T DO THIS ANYMORE.

14:24:58 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

14:25:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:25:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA, FOR

14:25:05 DEFERRING THIS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

14:25:11 AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHEN IT COMES

14:25:16 BACK MISS DUNCAN SPECIFICALLY CHECK WITH CODE

14:25:21 ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT MECHANISM TO WORK WITH THE ACELA

14:25:25 SYSTEM AND SOME OTHER SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN THE CITY THAT

14:25:29 MIGHT BE REMOVED TO ADDRESS THE WARNING.

14:25:34 SO THE WARNING GOES WITH THE HOME -- I AM SORRY?

14:25:35 OH.

14:25:38 THE WARNING GOES WITH THE HOME.

14:25:41 AND MAYBE -- MAYBE WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING THAT CODE

14:25:46 ENFORCEMENT IS USING OR LIKE I SAID THE ACELA SYSTEM OR

14:25:50 SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN MODIFY SLIGHTLY TO GIVE

14:25:51 PEOPLE WARNINGS.

14:25:56 IF PEOPLE GET WARNINGS, THEN I AM ALL FOR IT.

14:25:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

14:25:58 ANYBODY ELSE?

14:26:02 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:26:05 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:26:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ADD.

14:26:13 WITH ADMINISTRATION, IF THIS IS NOT HAPPENING THAN WE

14:26:17 DON'T DO IT IN SIX YEARS AND ADMINISTRATION DIGEST IT

14:26:20 IS AND SENDS OUT TO THE WATER BILL THAT ITEM --

14:26:24 FURTHERMORE, WHEN WE HAD A WATER SHORTAGE, BELIEVE ME,

14:26:26 WE HAD A DIRE NEED.

14:26:29 GUESS WHAT, THE MEDIA AND THE COUNCIL AND THE

14:26:32 ADMINISTRATION GOT TOGETHER, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY

14:26:37 LOWERED IT BY ABOUT 20 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AVERAGE

14:26:40 AND EVERYBODY GOT THE MESSAGE THROUGH THE MEDIA AND

14:26:45 EVERYBODY GOT THE MESSAGE THROUGH WHATEVER SOURCE WE

14:26:45 DID.

14:26:50 NOT OPPOSED TO SENDING MESSAGES TO ANYONE AT ANY TIME.

14:26:53 IF THEY SEND THIS IN THE MAIL WHAT MORE EVIDENCE THAN

14:26:54 THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD.

14:26:57 I WANT ALL THE POSSIBILITIES THAT SOMEBODY SAYS I DON'T

14:26:57 KNOW.

14:26:59 I AM SORRY, WE SENT IT OUT IN THE WATER BILL.

14:27:02 WE DID IT HERE.

14:27:04 SEND IT TO THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.

14:27:06 SEND IT OUT TO THE MEDIA.

14:27:08 THEY WILL PRINT IT.

14:27:11 SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO CLEAN UP THE ENVIRONMENT.

14:27:12 AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MEDIA WILL DO IT.

14:27:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:27:18 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A CLARIFICATION

14:27:22 OF A SIX-WEEK DELAY.

14:27:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT DATE I DON'T HAVE?

14:27:26 MARCH 19TH.

14:27:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

14:27:31 ANY OPPOSED.

14:27:33 MISS KERT IS HERE.

14:27:38 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AND

14:27:42 SECOND ADOPTION MARCH 19, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

14:27:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS KERT IS HERE AND GO TO 81.

14:27:53 >>REBECCA KERT: I'M HERE UNTIL THE END.

14:27:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AN END.

14:27:58 IS THERE AN INCOMING?

14:27:58 [LAUGHTER]

14:28:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 83, FEBRUARY 20.

14:28:03 WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING THAT.

14:28:07 ITEM NUMBER 84.

14:28:10 AND WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO DISCUSS THE UNDERGROUND

14:28:14 UTILITY ORDINANCE.

14:28:26 >> JUSTIN VASKE.

14:28:29 I WAS REQUESTED TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY TO PROVIDE A

14:28:35 REPORT REGARDING THE CREATION OF AN UNDER NANCE SIMILAR

14:28:36 TO THE COUNTY'S.

14:28:40 TO GET AN INDICATION OF WHAT IS INVOLVED WITH THE

14:28:41 UNDERGROUND ORDINANCE.

14:28:45 I SPOKE WITH COUNTY STAFF, CITY STAFF, AND RESEARCHED

14:28:47 THE RELEVANT LAWS.

14:28:50 MANY ISSUES RELATED TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS

14:28:53 ORDINANCE AND THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THE FINAL

14:28:56 VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE IS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL.

14:29:00 FOR INSTANCE, BASED ON THE COUNTY'S EXPERIENCE, I

14:29:05 LEARNED THAT THE COUNTY PROJECT MANAGER TASKED WITH THE

14:29:09 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT WILL LIKELY SPEND 25% OF

14:29:11 HIS OR HER TIME ON THE PROJECT.

14:29:15 TWO, THERE MAY BE A SIGNIFICANT FISCAL IMPACT TO THE

14:29:18 CITY'S BUDGET FOR A RISK THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PAY

14:29:21 FOR AN ENGINEERING STUDY THAT WON'T BE REIMBURSED

14:29:24 THROUGH THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.

14:29:27 THIS AMOUNT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN FUTURE CITY BUDGET

14:29:30 BECAUSE NOT SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN CURRENT CITY BUDGET FOR

14:29:31 THAT.

14:29:34 ALSO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THE

14:29:36 IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS WILL HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THEIR

14:29:42 CABLE AND FIBEROPTICS CABLES MOVE AS THE WILL NOT BE

14:29:44 PART OF THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.

14:29:48 AND IMPACTS TO THE TREE CANOPY AS THE UNDERGROUNDING OF

14:29:52 THE ELECTRICAL LINES MAY EFFECT THE ROOT SYSTEM OF THE

14:29:54 IMPACT AREAS.

14:29:56 I HAVE A WORKING DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE AND

14:30:00 COORDINATING MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF TO DISCUSS THIS

14:30:03 WITH OTHER ISSUES AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT I

14:30:06 RETURN UP IN TWO MONTHS TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE STATUS

14:30:08 OF THE ORDINANCE.

14:30:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:30:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COMING

14:30:16 BACK IN TWO MONTHS.

14:30:22 THE -- JOHN BENNETT WAS STANDING HERE HALF HOUR AGO AND

14:30:25 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RESILIENCY.

14:30:30 THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL ISSUE OF RESILIENCY.

14:30:32 IF ANYTHING.

14:30:37 WE HAVE -- WE HAVE POTENTIAL STORM SURGE AND POTENTIAL

14:30:40 HIGH WINDS AND THIS WILL ADDRESS -- POTENTIALLY ADDRESS

14:30:41 BOTH.

14:30:44 STORM SURGE A LITTLE HARDER AND I UNDERSTAND THE

14:30:48 TECHNOLOGY IS THERE NOW TO MAKE THE UNDERGROUND POWER

14:30:54 LINES MORE RESILIENT TO SALT WATER.

14:30:59 BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR CAUTION.

14:31:03 AS A LAWYER, WE ARE TRAINED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND GIVE ALL

14:31:05 THE ISSUES AND THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.

14:31:08 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE ARE SO CAUTIOUS THAT WE

14:31:11 DON'T MAKE ANY PROGRESS, THEN WE ARE -- THEN WE ARE

14:31:13 NOWHERE.

14:31:16 SO THE CITY HAS NEVER GIVEN NEIGHBORHOODS AN

14:31:20 OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERGROUND THE POWER LINES.

14:31:20 THE COUNTY HAS.

14:31:24 ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT.

14:31:27 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION OR

14:31:28 ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

14:31:30 BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE TRYING.

14:31:33 MAYBE A NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE LIKE DAVIS ISLAND OR

14:31:36 OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS EXCITED ABOUT IT AND WILLING

14:31:40 TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS SAY, OKAY,

14:31:41 WE WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

14:31:45 ULTIMATELY IN A COMMUNITY LIKE DAVIS ISLAND AND

14:31:47 SOMEWHERE ELSE CAME IN AND SAID YES, WE WILL WANT TO

14:31:50 MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE FUND THAT

14:31:53 QUARTER POSITION AND SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUE THAT'S YOU

14:31:54 ADDRESS.

14:31:57 AND ALSO WHERE ARE THE TREES AND HOW -- HOW MANY TREES

14:31:59 WILL GET AFFECTED AND THAT SORT OF THING.

14:32:02 TREES GET AFFECTED A LOT WITH THE OVERHEAD POWER LINES

14:32:06 BECAUSE TE CO COME ALONG WITH THE STATE STATUTE AND

14:32:08 BUTCHER THEM.

14:32:12 WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT THAT FOR A FEW HOURS, BUT WE WON'T.

14:32:15 THE BOTTOM LINE A LOT OF REASONS WHY WE SHOULD COME UP

14:32:17 WHY WE SHOULDN'T DO THESE THINGS BUT THINKABLE IS A

14:32:20 REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE SHOULD -- THAT WE SHOULD

14:32:24 SAY, OKAY, WE WILL ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD,

14:32:27 BUT LET'S PUT SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS TO DANGLE OUT

14:32:30 THERE LIKE A CARROT TO THESE COMMUNITIES AND SAY WE

14:32:33 WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO UNDERGROUND YOUR POWER

14:32:34 LINES.

14:32:35 WE CAN'T DO IT OURSELVES.

14:32:37 WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT OURSELVES.

14:32:39 BUT THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES AND HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL

14:32:43 AND MONEY TO DO IT MAYBE THAT IS A GOOD START.

14:32:47 BUT ANYWAY, COME BACK WITH 60 DAYS AND I HOPE WE COME

14:32:49 BACK WITH A WORKABLE ORDINANCE.

14:32:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:32:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

14:32:55 I REALLY APPRECIATE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

14:32:58 WHAT HAPPENS IF A SUBSTATION GO UNDER.

14:33:01 IT DOESN'T WORK.

14:33:07 HIT BY A TORNADO AN.

14:33:09 THEY AREN'T GOING TO HAVE ELECTRICITY.

14:33:10 JUST MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

14:33:12 A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

14:33:14 I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.

14:33:18 IN FACT I BELIEVE THAT I SAW ONE OR TWO NEAR THE WATER

14:33:22 AND I WILL TRY TO FIND IT -- 10, 12 YEARS AGO.

14:33:24 I WENT THERE AND LOOKED AROUND AND THERE WAS NO CABLE.

14:33:28 AND I FOUND OUT IT WAS ALL UNDERGROUND.

14:33:31 THEY THEMSELVES WHEN THEY BUILT DID IT UNDERGROWN.

14:33:34 A LOT OF AREAS BEING DEVELOPED IN THE CITY AND THE

14:33:37 COUNTY ARE PUTTING THEM UNDERGROUND AT THE HOUSE

14:33:40 WHOEVER BUYS THAT HOUSE.

14:33:42 I DON'T BELIEVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC SHOULD BE

14:33:47 RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S UNDERGROUNDING AND IF

14:33:51 THEY WANT IT, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE SHALL ALLOW YOU TO

14:33:54 DO THAT WITH ALL THE COST GOING TO YOU AND EVERY YEAR

14:33:58 YOU PAY A QUALIFYING AMOUNT $2,000 OR SOMETHING A YEAR

14:34:01 TOWARD THE COST OF DOING THE UNDERGROUNDING IN FRONT OF

14:34:01 YOUR YARD.

14:34:03 I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.

14:34:07 AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND NO MATTER WHO

14:34:09 YOU ARE, IF YOU WANT TO GET A LOAN AND IF YOU HAVE THE

14:34:12 MONEY, UP TO THE HOMEOWNER.

14:34:14 IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

14:34:16 GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY.

14:34:18 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND DO IT

14:34:18 YOURSELF.

14:34:22 IF THAT IS THE CASE THAT THEY WANT, I AM ALL FOR IT.

14:34:23 GO DO IT.

14:34:26 HOWEVER, IT COMES WITH ADDITIONAL COSTS.

14:34:30 WHAT HAPPENS IF A SUBSTATION GOES UNDER THAT SERVICES A

14:34:31 NEIGHBORHOOD.

14:34:33 WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE SUBSTATION TO BE

14:34:34 UNDERGROUND?

14:34:36 I DON'T KNOW.

14:34:39 OR -- JOHN, I AM TRYING TO HELP, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT

14:34:41 HAPPENS THERE.

14:34:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW THE INTENT IS TO PUT

14:34:45 THE SUBSTATIONS UNDER GROUND.

14:34:50 THE INTENT IS THE DISTRIBUTION LINES UNDERGROUND.

14:34:54 AND HARBOUR ISLAND HAS BEEN DOWNTOWN FOREVER.

14:34:57 DOWNTOWN IS UNDERGROUND.

14:34:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE SEEN IT ALL OVER.

14:35:03 WHAT HAPPENS WHAT IF WE HAVE A CATASTROPHE IN ONE OF

14:35:05 THE SUBSTATION THAT'S SERVICE THE AREA.

14:35:07 DO THEY STILL GET THE ELECTRICITY BECAUSE THEY ARE

14:35:08 UNDERGROUND?

14:35:09 I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.

14:35:11 I AM NOT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.

14:35:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A TECO REPRESENTATIVE IN

14:35:14 THE BACK.

14:35:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW IF HE PREFER TO ANSWER

14:35:18 THE QUESTIONS.

14:35:21 WHAT I AM SAYING A LOT MORE THAN SOMEBODY WANTING

14:35:21 SOMETHING.

14:35:23 YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING?

14:35:24 AND GOD BLESS THEM.

14:35:27 I AM GLAD THAT THEY ARE DOING THAT IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

14:35:29 AND HOWEVER -- I AM NOT AN ENGINEER.

14:35:30 I AM NOT A GENIUS.

14:35:34 I SAY I HAVE A CENTURY-CELL BRAIN BUT SOMETIMES MORE

14:35:35 THAN SOMEBODY ELSE HAS.

14:35:38 WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS IF ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE

14:35:43 FACTORS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS, NO ONE HAS COME

14:35:46 AND TOLD ME WHAT THE COST IS WITH SOMEBODY.

14:35:49 I WOULD LOVE TO PUT SOLAR AND HAVE UNDERGROUND AT MY

14:35:50 MOUSE.

14:35:53 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE.

14:35:54 YOU CAN DO THIS BLOCK BY BLOCK.

14:35:56 YOU DON'T HAVE TO A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.

14:35:57 IF THOSE TEN BLOCKS.

14:36:01 THOSE TEN HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SIX HOUSES WANT

14:36:01 TO DO IT.

14:36:02 THEY CAN DO IT.

14:36:06 I BELIEVE WE HAD THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO SOMETHING HAD

14:36:10 TO DO WITH TAMPA GENERAL.

14:36:13 AND THEIR EQUIPMENT THAT PRODUCES THE ENERGY SECOND AND

14:36:17 THIRD FLOOR AND THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR ALL OF THAT

14:36:17 GOING UNDER.

14:36:19 AND THEY WILL PAY FOR IT GOING UNDER.

14:36:22 IF I RECALL THE HEARINGS GOING ON HERE.

14:36:24 AND WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT.

14:36:28 BUT UP TO THE ENTITY TO PAY THE COST AND I THINK TAMPA

14:36:29 GENERAL DID.

14:36:32 BUT I AM NOT SURE BECAUSE THAT WAS MONTHS BACK.

14:36:34 AND SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THAT EFFECT AND APPLAUDED

14:36:35 THEM FOR DOING THAT.

14:36:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:36:37 ANYBODY ELSE?

14:36:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM FOR 60 DAYS

14:36:42 AND COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE.

14:36:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:36:45 WE WILL MOVE ON.

14:36:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION AND A SECOND.

14:36:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:36:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

14:36:58 MOVING ON TO ITEM 85, JEAN DUNCAN.

14:37:01 >>REBECCA KERT: REBECCA KERT, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:37:04 I'M HERE WITH MISS DUNCAN ON THIS ITEM.

14:37:08 THE TRANSPORTATION.

14:37:12 AND THE REASON THAT I AM UP HERE IS THAT THE REASON

14:37:16 TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY IS GOVERNED BY STATE STATUTE

14:37:21 AND I WAS GOING TO BEFORE MISS DUNCAN GOT UP HERE WHAT

14:37:23 WE OPERATED UNDER PREVIOUSLY AND THE STATUTORY

14:37:26 FRAMEWORK WE OPERATE UNDER TODAY.

14:37:30 GOING BACK IN TIME IN 1985, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE

14:37:33 PASSED THE REAL GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT THAT REQUIRED

14:37:36 ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES TO BE IN PLACE CONCURRENT

14:37:38 WITH DEVELOPMENT.

14:37:42 FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES, ADEQUATE MEANT THAT A

14:37:46 CERTAIN IDENTIFIED LEVEL OF SERVICE WAS ESTABLISHED AND

14:37:49 MAINTAINED AND YOU IDENTIFIED THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IN

14:37:52 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE ROADWAY NETWORK.

14:37:55 WHAT THAT MEANT IN REALITY IF A ROADWAY DROPPED BELOW

14:37:58 OUR ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE, NO DEVELOPMENT COULD

14:38:02 OCCUR UNTIL ADEQUATE FACILITIES WERE IN PLACE.

14:38:06 AND UNDER THE EARLIEST STATE LAWS, IT CAN BE BROUGHT UP

14:38:09 TO BEING ADEQUATE AGAIN TO MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE

14:38:13 EITHER BY THE DEVELOPER OR BY THE CITY AND YOU HAD TO

14:38:15 REGAIN OUR ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE.

14:38:22 THE RESULT OF THAT AFTER THAT WAS IN PLACE FOR A WHILE

14:38:25 THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS MOVED TO WHERE THERE WAS CAPACITY

14:38:27 ON THE ROADWAYS.

14:38:30 YOU SAW A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA

14:38:33 AND LESS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN YOUR YOU ARE WANT CORES.

14:38:35 THAT WAS THE CONCERN FOR THE LEGISLATURE.

14:38:41 IN THE '90S, THEY PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR URBAN

14:38:44 CREATING ABOUT ALL THE TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY

14:38:48 EXCEPTION AREA TO ENCOURAGE INFILL.

14:38:50 AND THE CITY OF TAMPA DID THAT AN EVERYTHING SOUTH OF

14:38:54 FOWLER BECAME A TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION

14:38:54 AREA.

14:38:59 SO THE QUESTION NOW TO THE SECOND PART OF THE MOTION IS

14:39:02 WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR TODAY IF THE CITY GOT RID OF THE

14:39:06 TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY AREA AND ESTABLISHED A LEVEL

14:39:09 OF SERVICE FOR CONCURRENCY PURPOSES -- WITH HE HAD A

14:39:13 LEVEL OF SERVICE BUT REQUIRED CONCURRENCY IN SOUTH

14:39:13 TAMPA.

14:39:16 AND THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATE

14:39:17 LAW CHANGED.

14:39:19 NOT AS IT WAS IN 1985.

14:39:22 THE FIRST CHANGE THAT THE STATE DID WAS AS OPPOSED TO

14:39:25 STOPPING ALL DEVELOPMENT IF WE DROP BELOW OUR ALLOWABLE

14:39:29 LEVEL OF SERVICE, THEY ALLOWED A DEVELOPER TO PAY WHAT

14:39:32 IS CALLED A PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE.

14:39:36 THE STATE SAID, YOU CAN NO LONGER STOP DEVELOPMENT IF

14:39:38 OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE DROPS IF THE DEVELOPER IS PAYING

14:39:40 ITS PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE.

14:39:44 THAT IS, THEY HAD TO IDENTIFY A PROJECT THAT WAS

14:39:47 FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE, A REAL PROJECT BUILT IN THE NEAR

14:39:52 FUTURE ON THE CITY'S CIP AND OTHERWISE DETERMINED TO

14:39:55 BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE, AND THE DEVELOPER WAS REQUIRED

14:39:58 TO PAY THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE, THE IMPACT THAT

14:39:59 THEY DID.

14:40:01 THE HOPE WAS IF YOU HAD A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS IN A

14:40:04 PARTICULAR AREA, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET ENOUGH MONEY

14:40:07 ALONG WITH WHAT THE CITY IS PUTTING INTO IT TO

14:40:10 EVENTUALLY BRING A PROJECT BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT COULD

14:40:11 GO FORWARD.

14:40:13 THAT HAS CHANGED.

14:40:18 IN THE 2000 SEVERAL AMENDMENTS OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT

14:40:21 ACT WENT INTO PLACE AND EVEN IN AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE

14:40:24 CONCURRENCY, THE LAW IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.

14:40:26 NUMBER ONE, THE PROJECT THAT THEY IDENTIFY IS NO LONGER

14:40:30 REQUIRED TO BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO BE IN A CIP AT

14:40:31 ALL.

14:40:32 THEY JUST PICK A PROJECT.

14:40:35 DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FULLY FUNDED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

14:40:40 THE OTHER THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW APPLICANT

14:40:43 CANNOT BE RESPONSIBILITY FOR REDUCING EFFICIENCIES.

14:40:46 WHATEVER PROJECT IT IS, IT NO LONGER HAS TO BRING YOU

14:40:49 UP TO THE ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE AND HAS TO ADDRESS

14:40:53 THE IMPACT OF THE -- OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING

14:40:53 FORWARD.

14:40:57 EVEN IF YOU WERE TO HAVE CONCURRENCY IN PLACE IT IS NOT

14:41:00 THE TOOL THAT IT WAS BACK IN THE '80S WHEN IT WAS

14:41:01 INIIALLY THOUGHT OF.

14:41:04 I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR CITY COUNCIL AS YOU ARE

14:41:06 WRESTLING WITH WHAT TOOLS YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT TO

14:41:08 UNDERSTAND CONCURRENCY.


BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT A LOT AND PEOPLE

HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAD THOSE

TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREAS, BUT I THINK

PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT CONCURRENCY IS A

VERY DIFFERENT -- VERY DIFFERENT LEGAL ENTITY THAN IT WAS

BACK IN THE 80s WHEN IT WAS INTRODUCED.

I AM NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MRS. DUNCAN IF YOU HAVE

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

14:41:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MRS.

14:41:33 DUNCAN'S PERSPECTIVE.

14:41:35 >>JEAN DUNCAN: TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER SERVICES.

14:41:38 IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE GRAPHICS TO

14:41:43 EACH OF YOU. FOR ME, A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND

14:41:47 WORDS.

14:41:48 IF YOU SEE THESE TWO GRAPHICS, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND SOME

14:41:50 OF WHAT MRS. KERT WAS EXPLAINING TO YOU.

14:41:54 AND I THINK MY INFORMATION WILL BE VERY BRIEF AND THEN

14:41:59 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

14:42:15 I WILL START WITH THE FIRST GRAPHIC FOR A CHANCE TO GET

14:42:18 PASSED AROUND.

14:42:24 SO BASICALLY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU IS HOW

14:42:28 THE TCEA, TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA,

14:42:33 PROTOCOL PROCESS CALCULATIONS THAT ARE DONE, WHICH ARE




14:42:37 DONE BY OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, THIS IS

14:42:40 THE GENERAL APPROACH IT'S TAKEN.

14:42:42 IF YOU SEE THIS CIRCLED AREAS, WHAT WE MODIFIED ARE TCEA

14:42:49 A FEW YEARS AGO TO GO FROM TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES TO

14:42:53 MULTIMODAL FEES.

14:42:55 WE REVISITED THE TCEA WE HAD IN PLACE AND WE MADE SOME

14:42:59 ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.

14:43:01 AND THE FOCUS WAS AND STILL IS, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE

14:43:05 GROWTH IN CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR CITY, AND HAVE DENSER AREAS

14:43:10 WITHIN OUR CITY AND HAVE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHIN OUR

14:43:13 CITY, FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE CHOICES TO LIVE IN A MORE URBAN

14:43:18 ENVIRONMENT IN A CONDO OR APARTMENT, OR LIVING IN A SUBURB

14:43:21 WITH A HOME IN THE YARD, OR AS THEY GO OUT TOWARDS THE

14:43:24 COUNTY, HAVING MORE RURAL EXPERIENCE.

14:43:26 SO THE CIRCLED AREAS ARE THE AREAS WHEN YOU HAVE THE

14:43:29 MOST -- THE LEAST ONEROUS TYPE OF CALCULATION FOR

14:43:39 MULTIMODAL FEES.

14:43:40 BECAUSE WE WANT THE GROWTH TO BE FOCUSED IN THOSE CIRCLED

14:43:43 AREAS.

14:43:44 AND YOU CAN SEE A LISTING THERE OF WHAT'S IN THOSE

14:43:47 CIRCLED AREAS.

14:43:49 THE SECOND GRAPHIC I HAVE IS BASICALLY OUTLINING THE

14:43:53 GROWTH STRATEGY OF THIS TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY

14:43:56 EXCEPTION AREA.

14:43:58 THE LINES OF THE MAP ARE BASICALLY FOR PRESENTING A




14:44:01 COMPLEMENT TO THE CIRCLES I JUST SHOWED YOU.

14:44:04 SO BESIDES ENCOURAGING GROWTH IN THE DOWNTOWN, WE WANT TO

14:44:08 ENCOURAGE GROWTH IN OUR BUSINESS CENTERS LIKE USF AND

14:44:11 WESTSHORE.

14:44:12 WE WANT TO HAVE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE FOR OUR

14:44:14 NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WE ARE CALCULATING WHAT THESE FEES

14:44:17 SHOULD BE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN OF COURSE WE WANT

14:44:20 TO HAVE MIX USE, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS, TOD,

14:44:25 ALONG OUR TRANSIT CORRIDORS, WHICH UP TO NOW HAVE BEEN

14:44:28 MAINLY THE STREETCAR AND BUS ROUTES SUCH AS FLORIDA

14:44:31 AVENUE, KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THAT HAVE A FREQUENCY AND

14:44:37 RIDERSHIP IN A VERY ROBUST BUS SYSTEM.

14:44:41 SO THESE TWO PICTURES BASICALLY ARE TELLING YOU, HERE IS

14:44:44 HOW WE APPROACH DETERMINING THE FEES THAT PEOPLE PAY FOR

14:44:49 IN THE CITY.

14:44:50 AND THIS PARTICULAR TOOL IS REALLY NOT GOING TO SOLVE ON

14:44:57 ITS OWN THE CONGESTION ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ARE FEELING IS

14:45:00 CREEPING INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

14:45:02 THE BIG PICTURE OF WHERE THIS RESIDES IS UNDER OUR

14:45:05 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

14:45:06 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR CITY OF TAMPA DICTATES THE

14:45:10 LAND USE THAT IS ALLOWED ON PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE

14:45:13 CITY.

14:45:14 AND THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS TO DEVELOP

14:45:17 THEIR PROPERTY TO THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.




14:45:21 SO AS MUCH AS WE PLAY WITH THE TCEA, SO TO SPEAK, IT'S

14:45:24 REALLY NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT BIGGER PROPERTY

14:45:28 OWNERSHIP ISSUE THAT'S UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

14:45:32 THE OTHER THING I WILL JUST MENTION IS THAT THE FEES THAT

14:45:36 ARE BEING CHARGED FOR ARE TRANSPORTATION MULTIMODAL FEES

14:45:41 HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED IN OVER 30 YEARS.

14:45:43 SO WHEN A BUSINESS IS CHOOSING TO COME TO TAMPA, THAT

14:45:48 PART OF THEIR DECISION EQUATION IS VERY SMALL, AND IS

14:45:52 MOST LIKELY NOT EVEN A FACTOR OF THEIR CHOICES WHERE THEY

14:45:56 WANT TO BE IN THE CITY.

14:45:57 THERE'S OTHER THINGS GOING ON THAT THEY ARE MAKING THEIR

14:46:00 DECISION ON, AND NOT MULTIMODAL FEES THAT ARE CREATED BY

14:46:04 OUR TCEA, BUT WAY DOWN ON THE LIST OF CONCERNS.

14:46:09 SO I HOPE THAT GIVES A LITTLE MORE FRAMEWORK TO THIS

14:46:12 PARTICULAR ASPECT OF TRANSPORTATION, COLLECTING WHAT MRS.

14:46:19 KERT HAS TO SAY.

14:46:20 I KNOW WE HAVE LIMITED TIME THIS MORNING, BUT WE ARE

14:46:22 HAPPY TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT CAN WE DO TO

14:46:25 LOOK AT PROTECTIONS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS DEVELOPMENT

14:46:29 CONCERNS ARE BROUGHT TO ALL OF US BY OUR RESIDENTS.

14:46:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:46:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL DEFER TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT

14:46:38 WANTS TO CHIME IN FIRST.

14:46:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

14:46:40 NO?




14:46:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THIS CAME UP IN ONE OF OUR LATE

14:46:45 EVENING ZONING HEARINGS.

14:46:49 I'M SURE YOU WERE HOME WATCHING EVERY SECOND.

14:46:51 >>JEAN DUNCAN: ABSOLUTELY.

14:46:53 [ LAUGHTER ]

14:46:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, WHAT

14:46:58 HAPPENED WAS, AND I WON'T DESCRIBE THE PROJECT AT ALL,

14:47:01 BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR.

14:47:04 EXCEPT TO SAY THERE WERE SEVERAL HUNDRED UNITS INVOLVED.

14:47:08 IT WAS, LET'S SAY, SOUTH OF KENNEDY AND ON THE PENINSULA.

14:47:13 AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

14:47:21 AND SO I ASKED ONE OF YOUR FOLKS WHO ATTENDS, WHAT SORT

14:47:26 OF CONTRIBUTIONS WILL THEY BE MAKING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF

14:47:29 THE IMMEDIATE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ALONG THE BOULEVARD THAT

14:47:33 THEY WANTED TO BUILD NEAR AND/OR THE INTERSECTION, LARGE

14:47:37 INTERSECTION THAT THEY WERE ALSO BUILDING NEAR OF THE

14:47:39 AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT THEY WERE

14:47:42 BUILDING A COUPLE HUNDRED UNITS, OR THEY WERE PROPOSING A

14:47:45 COUPLE HUNDRED UNITS, AND THE CONTRIBUTION WAS SOMETHING

14:47:50 RIDICULOUSLY PITIFUL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, ANYBODY

14:47:53 REMEMBERS LIKE $15,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR 300

14:47:57 UNITS, WHICH BY MY CALCULATION IS ABOUT 500 --

14:48:04 >> I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING BUT TO THE EXTENT OF

14:48:07 ADDRESSING A PARTICULAR REZONING --

14:48:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHY I DODGED AROUND.




14:48:13 THAT'S AS FAR AS I WILL GO.

14:48:15 BUT ANYWAY, MY POINT IS THE PER UNIT AMOUNT WAS VERY,

14:48:19 VERY NOMINAL, ALMOST EMBARRASSING.

14:48:22 MAYBE THAT RELATES TO THE FACT THAT IT HASN'T BEEN

14:48:24 ADDRESSED IN 30 YEARS.

14:48:26 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPROPRIATE MECHANISM IS TO BUMP

14:48:31 THAT UP.

14:48:32 BUT I SEE TWO POTENTIAL GOALS.

14:48:35 NUMBER ONE IS -- AND I THINK THIS IS A MANTRA THAT'S BEEN

14:48:41 SAID FROM THIS BODY AS WELL AS IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE,

14:48:43 THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD PAY ITS FAIR SHARE.

14:48:46 I'M NOT SAYING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE FIXING ALL

14:48:49 THE OLD PROBLEMS.

14:48:50 THAT'S NOT FAIR EITHER.

14:48:51 ACTUALLY, I AGREE WITH THE LEGISLATURE ON THAT.

14:48:54 BUT THEY SHOULD BE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF WHAT THAT

14:48:56 NEW IMPACT IS GOING TO BE.

14:48:57 WHEN I HEARD THAT NUMBER POP UP, YOU KNOW, $500 OR

14:49:01 SOMETHING FOR EACH UNIT, WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO TURN

14:49:03 AROUND AND SELL THOSE UNITS FOR ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO

14:49:09 300,000, EVEN RENTAL UNITS, I HEARD 400 THAT YOU PER

14:49:14 RENTAL UNIT.

14:49:15 SO ANYWAYS, SOMEBODY IS MAKING A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY

14:49:17 ARE NOT REALLY CONTRIBUTING THEIR FAIR SHARE TO

14:49:20 METROPOLITAN US JUST A SMIDGEN HELP US ALLEVIATE SOME OF




14:49:23 THESE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

14:49:25 SO WITH THAT, AND THE OTHER PARTS IS GOOD PLANNING.

14:49:30 AND I HAVE STARTED ON THIS EFFORT IN MY MIND, AND ANYBODY

14:49:34 WHO WILL LISTEN, THAT WE SHOULD CREATE AN EXTREMELY

14:49:38 INTENSIVE GROWTH ZONE THAT STRETCHES FROM YBOR CITY

14:49:42 THROUGH CHANNELSIDE, INTO I DON'T, TO THE UNIVERSITY

14:49:47 DISTRICT, TO MIDTOWN, AND TO THE AIRPORT AND WESTSHORE.

14:49:53 AND IN THAT ZONE, I BELIEVE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE AN

14:49:56 ADDITIONAL 500,000 PEOPLE.

14:49:59 AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WHEN WE DO THAT OVER THE NEXT 20, 30

14:50:03 YEARS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING

14:50:05 ANYWAY, BUT WHEN WE CREATE THAT TYPE OF -- THAT'S THE

14:50:10 FUTURE DOWNTOWN.

14:50:10 THE FUTURE DOWNTOWN IS SOMEBODY FLIES INTO TAMPA, AND

14:50:13 THEY SAY, WHERE IS DOWNTOWN?

14:50:15 AND YOU GO, THAT'S DOWNTOWN.

14:50:17 IT STRETCHES FROM YBOR CITY ALL THE WAY -- AND IN A TEN

14:50:21 BLOCK, 20-BLOCK SWATH ALL THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT AND

14:50:25 WESTSHORE.

14:50:25 THAT'S THE FUTURE DOWNTOWN.

14:50:26 AND WHEN WE HAVE THAT TYPE OF DENSITY, THAT'S WHEN MASS

14:50:31 TRANSIT AND BRT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO WORK

14:50:34 BEST.

14:50:35 I KNOW I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR ON THAT BUT WE HAVE TO

14:50:38 ADDRESS IT IN THE COMP PLAN, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT ON OUR




14:50:41 FUTURE LAND USE MAPS, AND I ALSO BELIEVE HAND IN HAND

14:50:44 WITH THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE THE INTENSITY DOWN IN SOME OF

14:50:46 THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T WANT THAT DENSITY,

14:50:50 OKAY.

14:50:51 SO WE NEED TO ADJUST OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAPS IN SOME OF

14:50:54 THOSE OTHER AREAS IN THE PENINSULA, IN OTHER AREAS THAT

14:50:58 ARE TRADITIONALLY SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

14:51:00 AND THEY DON'T WANT THAT DENSITY AND THEY DON'T NEED THAT

14:51:03 DENSITY, AND FRANKLY THE DENSITY AMENDMENT DOESN'T

14:51:05 ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING.

14:51:06 SO IT'S A LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING, THIS IS WHY THIS

14:51:10 ISSUE CAME UP.

14:51:13 AND I HOPE OVER THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE REALLY GO INTO IT

14:51:18 HARD TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO GOALS.

14:51:20 HOW DO WE RAISE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY, AND WHAT DO WE DO

14:51:24 TO REALLY -- LET GOVERNMENT LEAD THE WAY IN TERMS OF

14:51:29 SAYING, THIS IS WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA GO.

14:51:33 AS FAR AS I LOVE DEVELOPERS AND, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THEM

14:51:36 ARE MY FRIENDS, YADA YADA YADA, OKAY, EVEN STEVE

14:51:40 MICHELINI WHO WAS BACK THERE A MINUTE AGO, BUT IT'S LIKE

14:51:44 THE TIME HAS COME FOR US TO BE MATURE AS A CITY AND AS A

14:51:49 GOVERNMENT TO SAY, WE ARE GOING TO NOW DIRECT GROWTH AND

14:51:53 WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACES, INSTEAD OF

14:51:56 VICE VERSA AND LET THE DEVELOPERS JUST CONTINUE TO SAY,

14:51:58 OH, I HAVE GOT SOME PROPERTY ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE IN




14:52:02 XYZ, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT CREATE A PROBLEM TRAFFICWISE,

14:52:06 HURRICANE EVACUATION, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW.

14:52:10 I HAPPEN TO HAVE AN OPTION ON THAT LAND AND I THINK IT'S

14:52:12 A GOOD IDEA.

14:52:13 NO.

14:52:14 LET'S MATURE UP AND LET'S DO IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

14:52:18 THAT'S MY SOAPBOX.

14:52:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

14:52:22 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

14:52:23 >> DO YOU WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW?

14:52:28 NO, ALL RIGHT, SORRY.

14:52:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON

14:52:32 STAFF REPORTS.

14:52:35 >>BILL CARLSON: MRS. KERT, I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ON THE

14:52:37 PHONE YOU WERE FOR LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES TO THIS.

14:52:42 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:52:44 THE CITY HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

14:52:48 ASPECTS TO LAND PLANNING AND THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION

14:52:50 PLANNING ASPECTS OF IT.

14:52:51 BUT IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAN THE FIVE MINUTE STAFF

14:52:54 REPORT ON THE TCEA.

14:52:56 IF CITY COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN DELVING INTO THESE

14:53:00 TOPICS OR EITHER OF THESE TOPICS I THINK IT WOULD BE

14:53:02 APPROPRIATE TO SCHEDULE IT FOR A WORKSHOP WITH

14:53:04 TRANSPORTATION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND I WOULD




14:53:06 ALSO DEFER TO MRS. DUNCAN WHO WILL BE HERE, AND I WON'T

14:53:10 ADD TO ANYTHING ON THAT.

14:53:11 I DON'T NEED TO VOLUNTEER OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME.

14:53:13 BUT WE DID DISCUSS THESE ARE VERY BIG TOPICS, AND THEY

14:53:17 WARRANT SOME IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION.

14:53:21 >>BILL CARLSON: SO WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED TO TALK

14:53:23 ABOUT SOUTH OF GANDY.

14:53:24 BUT THIS IS A LARGER TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING ISSUE.

14:53:29 WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE?

14:53:32 >>JEAN DUNCAN: I CAN LOOK AT THAT MORE CLOSELY BUT

14:53:35 THAT'S PROBABLY A MICROCOSM OF THIS SAME ISSUE ELSEWHERE

14:53:38 WITHIN OUR CITY.

14:53:39 SO WE COULD PUT SOME GENERALITIES ON THAT MOTION WHEN WE

14:53:41 COME IN TO.

14:53:47 >>BILL CARLSON: HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE WORKSHOP?

14:53:50 >>JEAN DUNCAN: A SOUTH OF GANDY WORKSHOP, IF YOU DON'T

14:53:53 MIND ME ASKING?

14:53:54 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK SO, YEAH, BUT LET'S SET THAT

14:53:56 ASIDE BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A PIECE OF IT.

14:53:59 MRS. KERT, WE HAVE TO GET YOUR ADVICE BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

14:54:02 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:54:04 I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WITH THIS SOUTH OF GANDY, WE DO

14:54:06 HAVE SOME LITIGATION ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA BUT IT

14:54:09 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE ISSUES ARE JUST SOUTH OF GANDY.

14:54:12 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN MANY AREAS OF THE CITY




14:54:14 PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH TAMPA.

14:54:15 SO I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN THAT ONE IS SCHEDULED AND

14:54:19 IF THAT QUO GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR MRS. DUNCAN TO PREPARE.

14:54:22 BUT I THINK CONSIDERING HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU LIKE TO

14:54:24 PREPARE AND MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS.

14:54:27 BUT I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN

14:54:29 THAT --

14:54:32 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THIS NEW WORKSHOP?

14:54:39 >>JEAN DUNCAN: I GUESS A GROWTH MANAGEMENT CONVERSATION.

14:54:43 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE SET UP A WORKSHOP NOW?

14:54:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE BUSY ON WORKSHOPS UNTIL JUNE

14:54:50 UNLESS YOU WANT TO ADD ON -- MAY IS NOT VERY HEAVY.

14:54:53 APRIL IS NOT TOO BAD.

14:54:57 UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES UP TO YOU.

14:54:59 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

14:55:01 TO HOLD A GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP, WHAT DATE IN JUNE?

14:55:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE IS JUNE 18th.

14:55:09 >>BILL CARLSON: JUNE 18th TO HAVE --

14:55:12 >>> DO YOU WANT A TIME CERTAIN?

14:55:14 9:30 OR 10:00.

14:55:15 LET'S SAY 10:00.

14:55:17 THERE'S SULPHUR SPRINGS.

14:55:20 >>BILL CARLSON: 10:00.

14:55:20 AND THEN HAVE LEGAL PLANNING, TRANSPORTATION.

14:55:22 ANYBODY ELSE?




14:55:25 >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

14:55:27 >>BILL CARLSON: THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENT.

14:55:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

14:55:33 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION SO PEOPLE

14:55:37 APPEARING ARE PROPERLY PREPARED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT

14:55:39 THE ISSUES?

14:55:39 WHAT I HEARD IS YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE POSSIBILITY OF

14:55:41 REVISITING THE MULTIMODAL FEES, ALSO THE LAND USE PLAN

14:55:48 CLASSIFICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN ORDER TO POSSIBLY

14:55:51 REDIRECT GROWTH.

14:55:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL TRY TO SUMMARIZE IT AND YOU CAN

14:55:57 CORRECT ME.

14:55:58 BUT IT'S HOW TO PLAN AREAS OF GROWTH AND PROTECT AREAS

14:56:04 THAT DON'T WANT GROWTH.

14:56:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAID IT IN TEN SECONDS.

14:56:12 I TOOK NINE MINUTES.

14:56:13 [ LAUGHTER ]

14:56:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A MOTION.

14:56:17 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

14:56:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL SECOND IT AND I WANT TO CHIME

14:56:19 IN AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

14:56:23 ASKED US TO JOIN THEM IN MARCH, IS IT, TO TALK ABOUT

14:56:27 THESE ISSUES.

14:56:35 EVEN COUNTYWIDE.

14:56:36 BUT THIS IS RIGHT ON POINT WITH THAT TOO BECAUSE A LOT OF




14:56:39 COMMISSIONERS ARE WORRIED ABOUT SPRAWL.

14:56:40 THEY WANTS US TO TAKE SOME OF THAT GROWTH AND CONCENTRATE

14:56:42 IT IN THE APPROPRIATE QUARTER.

14:56:45 SO I'M GREAT WITH THE MOTION, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO

14:56:50 CONTINUE OUR OWN DISCUSSION.

14:56:51 BUT THIS DISCUSSION WILL COME UP IN THAT COUNTY MEETING

14:56:53 AS WELL.

14:56:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

14:56:54 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:56:56 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:56:58 ALL IN FAVOR?

14:56:59 ANY OPPOSED?

14:57:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:57:01 NEXT UP, ITEMS 86 AND 87.

14:57:04 THOM SNELLING.

14:57:17 AND BEFORE YOU BEGIN, MRS. ZELMAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE NUMBER

14:57:21 90.

14:57:22 CAN WE KEEP THAT TILL THE END?

14:57:24 BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WAITING.

14:57:27 WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

14:57:29 TAKE IT AWAY.

14:57:30 >>THOM SNELLING: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

14:57:36 ITEM NUMBER 86 WAS ABOUT DAVIS ISLAND.

14:57:39 I DID SEND IN A MEMO ON THAT.

14:57:41 I DO HAVE A LITTLE MORE TO DISCUSS ON THAT.




14:57:44 YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT SOME OF THE TIME FRAMES AND THE COST.

14:57:50 THE TIME FRAME FOR A TRUE FORM-BASED CODE, AS YOU KNOW,

14:57:55 IT'S A MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH TYPE OF ANALYSIS AND INVOLVES

14:57:59 COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE CHANGES, CREATING A VISION, AND

14:58:02 THEN AFTER THOSE ARE DONE, YOU COME BACK IN AND YOU START

14:58:06 TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED LAND DEVELOPMENT

14:58:09 REGULATIONS AND ZONING ISSUES.

14:58:11 THE OTHER THING THAT FORM-BASED CODES DO ALLOW IS THEY

14:58:15 ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR SOME POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGES,

14:58:18 EXPANDING OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS OR REDUCTION OF

14:58:20 COMMERCIAL AREAS, DEPENDING ON THE DIRECTION THAT THE

14:58:24 OVERALL WORKSHOP DISCUSSION TAKES YOU.

14:58:31 THE FORM-BASED CODE TYPICALLY WILL TAKE BETWEEN 100 AND

14:58:40 $150,000 WITH A CONSULTANT, OUR STAFF.

14:58:44 WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO UNDERTAKE THAT

14:58:48 IN-HOUSE AS WE DID IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SEVERAL YEARS

14:58:50 BACK.

14:58:54 AND THE CONSULTANT WORK WITH ALL OF THE 12, 18 MONTHS AND

14:58:57 THEN THE OVERALL TIME FRAME TO GET THE ENTIRE PROJECT,

14:59:03 ADOPTION, IS CLOSER TO 24 TO 36 MONTHS.

14:59:05 IN REALITY WE KNOW THAT WITH CERTAINTY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW

14:59:10 LONG SEMINOLE HEIGHTS TOOK.

14:59:12 IT TOOK A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS TO GO FROM THE VERY

14:59:14 FIRST DISCUSSIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS BECAUSE IT

14:59:18 INVOLVES A GREAT DEAL OF PUBLIC INPUT, AND WE SPENT




14:59:22 SEVERAL, DOZENS OF TIMES IN THE COMMUNITIES GOING OVER

14:59:25 THAT.

14:59:25 SO THAT'S THE FORM-BASED CODE ON DAVIS ISLAND.

14:59:31 SIMPLE OVERLAY DISTRICT, IT'S A SHORTER TIME PERIOD, 18,

14:59:34 24 MONTHS, BUT THE -- IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS MONEY,

14:59:38 BETWEEN 100 AND $125,000 BUT AGAIN WE DON'T HAVE THE

14:59:42 RESOURCES.

14:59:43 THAT MONEY IS NOT BUDGETED IN 2020 BUDGET FROM MY

14:59:46 DEPARTMENT, SO I DON'T HAVE THE CASH OR THE RESOURCES.

14:59:51 BUT THOSE ARE THE TIME FRAMES AND THE COST OF WHAT WOULD

14:59:54 BE INVOLVED IN THE FORM-BASED CODE ON DAVIS ISLAND OR

14:59:58 JUST GOING THROUGH THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

15:00:01 OVERLAY DISTRICTS DON'T CHANGE THE ZONING.

15:00:03 IT DOESN'T ALLOW ANY INCREASES IN ANY PARTICULAR USES

15:00:09 THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE COMMUNITY MAY WANT TO

15:00:11 CONSIDER.

15:00:13 IT ADDRESSES MORE DIMENSIONAL ASPECTS IF YOU WILL.

15:00:17 IT ADDRESSES OTHER THINGS.

15:00:18 BUT LIKE THE SOUTH HOWARD OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR EXAMPLE

15:00:22 CALLS OUT SOME PERCENTAGE OF FENESTRATION THAT MUST BE IN

15:00:25 FRONT OF THE BUILDING OR FACADE, CALLS OUTS THEY WANT THE

15:00:28 SETBACKS TO BE MAXIMUM SETBACKS VERSUS PUSHED TO THE

15:00:32 STREET.

15:00:33 AGAIN THOSE ARE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND NOT REALLY

15:00:35 CHANGING OR ADDRESSING ANY PARTICULAR USE OR ENTITLEMENT.




15:00:40 I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

15:00:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:00:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO

15:00:47 THE DAVIS ISLAND FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN COMING AND ASKING

15:00:50 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE PLANNING ISSUES, I'M NOT -- I'M

15:00:56 NOT COMPLETELY CONVINCED THAT FORM-BASED CODE IS THE WAY

15:01:00 TO GO OR EVEN FORM BASED DISTRICT IS THE WAY TO GO BUT WE

15:01:03 HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF DAVIS ISLAND REZONINGS SINCE I CAME

15:01:07 BACK LAST SUMMER.

15:01:09 AND WE HAVE HAD, SAY, 3 OR 4, AND OFTEN THEY ARE

15:01:13 CONTENTIOUS, BUT I THINK WHAT I AM REALLY HEARING FROM

15:01:19 THE FOLKS ON DAVIS ISLAND IS THAT NOBODY IS GOING OUT

15:01:22 THERE AND TALKING TO THEM AND SAYING WHAT CAN WE DO TO

15:01:26 ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONFLICTS?

15:01:31 NOBODY LIKES CONFLICTS.

15:01:32 THE DEFERRALS COME IN, DON'T LIKE THE CONFLICTS.

15:01:35 THE NEIGHBORHOODS COME IN, THEY GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO

15:01:38 THAN SIT HERE ALL NIGHT.

15:01:40 THOM, YOU DON'T LIKE THEM.

15:01:41 WE DON'T LIKE THEM.

15:01:42 SO WHAT MY HOPE IS MAYBE WE CAN SEND AN EXISTING PLANNER

15:01:46 OUT THERE TO GO OUT AND HAVE TWO OR THREE MEETINGS, LONG

15:01:52 MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR

15:01:55 REAL GOAL IS, AND WHERE THESE CONFLICTS ARISE MOSTLY.

15:02:03 SOME OF THEM, THE McMANSIONS THAT ARE RISING UP BECAUSE




15:02:07 THEY HAVE GOT SOME WONDERFUL WATERFRONT, AND FEMA IS

15:02:10 PUSHING THEM UP, OKAY.

15:02:14 AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO MUCH ABOUT THOSE.

15:02:16 BUT THEN MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS, WHEN IT COMES TO SOME

15:02:19 OF THE DENSITY ISSUES ALONG THE MAJOR CORRIDORS THROUGH

15:02:23 DAVIS ISLAND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WE HAD

15:02:27 SOME CONFLICT LAST FALL, AND MAYBE WE CAN TWEAK -- MAYBE

15:02:30 WE CAN TWEAK THIS A LITTLE BIT WITH A LITTLE LESS

15:02:33 MANPOWER, WOMAN POWER.

15:02:35 >>THOM SNELLING: EXACTLY THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY ARE

15:02:39 LOOKING FOR, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

15:02:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

15:02:42 AND -- [RUSTLING PAPERS] AND LET'S TRY TO BE PROACTIVE

15:02:47 AND REACH OUT TO THEM AND SEND SOME STAFF OUT THERE AND

15:02:49 HAVE SOME MEETINGS AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME SIMPLE LITTLE

15:02:53 TWEAKS WE CAN COME BACK AND SET UP AN EXTENSIVE THREE

15:02:58 YEAR PROGRAM.

15:02:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE SAME APPLIES FOR WESTSHORE

15:03:00 PALMS?

15:03:04 >>THOM SNELLING: VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL.

15:03:08 BOTH OF THOSE COMMENTS.

15:03:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY MOTIONS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS?

15:03:12 NO?

15:03:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S NOT EVEN A MOTION.

15:03:15 I WILL JUST INCH STAFF TO BE PROACTIVE IN BOTH OF THOSE




15:03:19 NEIGHBORHOODS AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS

15:03:22 THOSE PLANNING ISSUES.

15:03:26 >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE AT SOME POINTS SET UP A

15:03:27 WORKSHOP LIKE WE HAVE DONE THE LAST ITEM?

15:03:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REVISIT IT SO IT HAS -- I THINK THAT'S

15:03:36 A GOOD IDEA.

15:03:37 MAYBE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

15:03:40 >>THOM SNELLING: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING LIKE

15:03:41 THAT BECAUSE IF INDEED WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE

15:03:44 WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE SCHEDULES ARE SO INSANE, I

15:03:47 WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, IF YOU WILL.

15:03:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIX MONTHS WOULD BE AUGUST 27th

15:03:52 WORKSHOP AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT DAY.

15:03:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR BOTH OF

15:03:58 THOSE.

15:03:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION?

15:04:04 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION WE SET UP THE

15:04:06 WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 27, 9 A.M.

15:04:11 27th?

15:04:13 9 A.M. TO DISCUSS PLANNING IN DAVIS ISLAND.

15:04:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

15:04:21 CARLSON.

15:04:21 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:04:23 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:04:27 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK YOU WANTED TO MAKE ONE FOR




15:04:29 WESTSHORE PALMS AS WELL, IS THAT CORRECT?

15:04:32 >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDING WESTSHORE PALMS.

15:04:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE]

15:04:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE CITY.

15:04:45 IF YOU GO DOWN AND COMING WEST IN THE MORNING ON MLK, ALL

15:04:50 THE WAY FROM 15th STREET THIS WAY, YOU WOULD BE

15:04:53 SURPRISED HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO GET TO MLK

15:04:59 AND DALE MABRY.

15:05:01 JUST BE SURPRISED.

15:05:02 AND IF YOU TAKE IT IN REVERSE AT 3:30 TO 4:30 HEADING

15:05:06 EAST, YOU WILL BE SURPRISED HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO GET

15:05:09 TO 15th STREET BECAUSE I HAVE DONE BOTH OF THEM.

15:05:13 AND THE PEOPLE GET EXASPERATED BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY

15:05:17 FRUSTRATED WITH OTHER THINGS IN LIFE, NOT WITH THE

15:05:19 GOVERNMENT, BUT TRAFFIC AIN'T MOVING AND THEN THERE'S AN

15:05:23 ACCIDENT ON THAT ROAD, YOU MIGHT AS WELL SELL THE CAR.

15:05:27 YOU CAN GET WHERE YOU ARE GOING WALKING QUICKER.

15:05:29 SO IT'S JUST NOT IN THOSE AREAS.

15:05:31 IT'S THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

15:05:32 AND YOU CAN TELL YOU THAT LAND HAS GONE UP SO HIGH, I

15:05:38 REMEMBER FIVE, SIX YEARS EARLIER YOU COULD BUY A LOT IN

15:05:42 WEST TAMPA 20, 000 DOLLARS.

15:05:44 GO TO CONRAD AND LINCOLN, THERE'S A LOT FOR SELL FOR

15:05:48 $170,000 AND IT AIN'T ABOUT THE LOT.

15:05:51 SINGLE LOT.




15:05:52 SO THE LAND VALUE IN WEST TAMPA NOW IS 100 TO $150,000 A

15:05:57 LOT.

15:05:58 THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

15:05:59 WHY?

15:06:00 PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WENT

15:06:02 OUT TO SCHOOL ARE COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY HAVE JOB

15:06:05 OPPORTUNITIES.

15:06:06 SO WITH PROSPERITY WE CREATED OUR OWN PROBLEM.

15:06:10 THAT'S HOW LIFE IS.

15:06:11 AND YOUR DIVISION, SIR, YOU HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE

15:06:15 RETIRE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, AND NOW YOU HAD A COUPLE

15:06:20 TODAY, AND I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY THAT

15:06:22 SOMETIME IN MARCH, KATHY BECK IS RETIRING.

15:06:27 EVERYBODY EXCEPT THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.

15:06:31 BUT WHAT I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT THIS IS THE

15:06:34 PENALTY THAT'S GOT TO BE SOLVED, BECAUSE WHAT'S COMING,

15:06:39 FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT WATER, IS AN INCREASE OF A LOT OF

15:06:43 PEOPLE, LIKE 40% INCREASE IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS.

15:06:47 SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THEM?

15:06:50 THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU HAVE GOT TO ASK YOURSELF.

15:06:53 THE ONLY AREA THAT THEY HAVE BUY ALL THE LAND YOU CAN IN

15:06:56 EAST TAMPA BECAUSE IT'S COMING.

15:06:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THAT'S NOT EVEN CHEAP.

15:07:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT EVEN CHEAP.

15:07:04 SO BUY THE LAND YOU CAN IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT.




15:07:07 YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TRADE WITH CHINA OR

15:07:10 ANYTHING ELSE.

15:07:10 ONLY WHAT THE LOT IS GOING TO BRING YOU BECAUSE IT'S

15:07:13 GOING TO DOUBLE.

15:07:14 THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.

15:07:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW DOWN AT MLK, THE TIMING

15:07:18 WITH THE LIGHTS AT THE INTERSTATE AND CENTRAL AT MLK,

15:07:22 NEBRASKA AND MLK, AND THERE'S NO DEDICATED BUS LINES SO

15:07:25 THE BUS HOLDS UP THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE I DEAL WITH IT EVERY

15:07:31 SINGLE DAY.

15:07:31 >>THOM SNELLING: I AM A FEW BLOCKS NORTH OF THEM.

15:07:35 I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

15:07:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GET THOSE CALLS ALL THE TIME.

15:07:40 IT NEVER ENDS.

15:07:41 COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS A MOTION WITH A SECOND BY

15:07:44 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:07:45 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:07:46 ALL RIGHT.

15:07:47 ITEM NUMBER 88.

15:07:58 ARE YOU MICHAEL?

15:07:58 >> KEVIN HONEYCUTT, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, HERE FOR

15:08:05 MICHAEL.

15:08:08 AND ITEM 88, THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN PROVIDED FROM THE

15:08:14 DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION TO THE COUNCIL.

15:08:17 SO I AM HERE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS




15:08:19 REGARDING THE RESPONSE, RECOMMENDATIONS.

15:08:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

15:08:23 COUNCILMAN GUDES?

15:08:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] ANY PLANS IN THE FUTURE

15:08:29 OF HIRING ANYBODY IN THAT DIVISION THAT HAVE BEEN LOST?

15:08:33 BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME WHERE

15:08:40 IN-HOUSE, THE CITIZENS SAY, WHY ARE YOU SPENDING MONEY,

15:08:43 DON'T YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN-HOUSE THAT CAN DO THE WORK?

15:08:46 DOESN'T THE CITY HAVE ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS AND THESE

15:08:49 TYPES OF THINGS?

15:08:50 SO I HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

15:08:51 BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW MYSELF.

15:08:53 I NEVER WORKED IN THAT DIVISION.

15:08:55 SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO THE

15:09:00 TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF OUTSOURCING THAT'S BEING DONE.

15:09:03 SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN REALLY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS

15:09:07 BECAUSE OF THE RESPONSE.

15:09:09 STILL, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY

15:09:12 FUTURE HIRING AND HELP WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES, I MEAN,

15:09:16 LOWER OUR COSTS IF WE HAVE IN-HOUSE PEOPLE?

15:09:19 >> WE ARE CURRENTLY -- WE HAVE GOT -- THERE ARE TWO OF

15:09:27 THE THREE ARCHITECTURAL POSITIONS THAT ARE VACANT RIGHT

15:09:29 NOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO HIRE FOR.

15:09:35 BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO OUTSOURCE

15:09:39 FOR FULL SERVICE, TO ENSURE THAT SMALL AND LOCAL




15:09:45 MINORITY-OWNED ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY

15:09:48 TO PERFORM CITY AND FULL SERVICE DESIGNS AND

15:09:56 ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES.

15:09:57 THE REASON BEING FOR THAT, WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT

15:10:02 WE HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE QUITE A FEW MORE PEOPLE TO

15:10:07 DO WORK IN-HOUSE.

15:10:10 AND IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF TRYING TO ANTICIPATE WHAT THE

15:10:13 WORK WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE, AND TO DO WORK UNHOUSE WOULD

15:10:17 BE MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN THE COORDINATION THAT WE

15:10:20 ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

15:10:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

15:10:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOU BRING UP A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS,

15:10:30 FOLLOW-UP TO YOUR STATEMENT, IS HOW LONG HAVE THOSE

15:10:33 POSITIONS BEEN VACANT?

15:10:36 >> THEY WERE -- JUST RECENTLY, WE HAD ONE LEAVE AND THEN

15:10:44 ONE RETURNED BACK TO THEIR PREVIOUS POSITION WITHIN THE

15:10:47 CITY.

15:10:48 AND SO WE HAD OPENED UP THE ADVERTISING A FEW WEEKS AGO.

15:10:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S THE MARKET LIKE?

15:10:56 I KNOW SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO, COULD YOU PICK UP A DOZEN

15:10:58 ARCHITECTS FOR NOTHING.

15:11:02 JUST BECAUSE IT WAS A ROUGH TIME FOR ARCHITECTS.

15:11:04 I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT LIGHTLY.

15:11:05 I HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS WHO WERE SUFFERING DURING THAT

15:11:08 PERIOD OF TIME.




15:11:09 BUT WHAT IS IT LIKE NOW OUT THERE IN TERMS OF FINDING

15:11:12 ARCHITECTS AND PAYING THEM WHAT WE ARE PAYING?

15:11:15 >> I'M ASSUMING IT'S PRETTY GOOD OUT THERE BASED ON THE

15:11:18 RESPONSES THAT WE ARE GETTING.

15:11:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND YOU BROUGHT UP NBE AND SBE

15:11:26 OPPORTUNITIES WHICH WE ARE ALL SENSITIVE TO IN A MAJORITY

15:11:29 OF CONTEXTS.

15:11:30 DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW DOES THAT DEPARTMENT DO IN

15:11:35 TERMS OF USING SBEs AND WMEs?

15:11:39 >> IT'S OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

15:11:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S GOOD.

15:11:43 DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER ON IT?

15:11:44 >> OF THE AMOUNT OF -- I WOULD SAY ABOUT A HANDFUL OUT OF

15:11:49 THE DOZEN THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

15:11:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MAYBE MR. SPEARMAN CAN HELP

15:11:55 OUT.

15:11:56 I DON'T KNOW.

15:11:56 BUT I'M LOOKING FOR A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF

15:12:00 WORK THAT YOU OUTSOURCE TO ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS.

15:12:03 YOU BROUGHT UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE SBE, WMBE.

15:12:09 DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE THAT WE ARE SUCCESSFUL RIGHT NOW

15:12:11 OUT OF THAT 100 PROJECTS, OR $10 MILLION OR WHATEVER,

15:12:18 WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANT TO USE, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE

15:12:22 CURRENTLY GETTING PARTICIPATION FROM WMBE AND SBE ARC

15:12:29 TOKES?




15:12:29 >> YES, I CAN FIND THAT OUT AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON

15:12:31 THAT.

15:12:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

15:12:33 YOU WILL SEND A MEMO BACK TO US ON THAT?

15:12:35 >> YES.

15:12:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:12:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE SAYING THAT WE ARE OUTSOURCING SO

15:12:41 MUCH, THE WAY THE MARKET AREA IS OUT THERE, ARE THESE

15:12:45 COSTS THAT WE ARE PAYING TO OUTSOURCE, AND WHO IS GETTING

15:12:49 THE JOBS?

15:12:53 WHO IS THE GROUP THAT'S GETTING THE JOBS?

15:12:55 SO I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, AND I TIP MY HAT TO

15:12:59 YOU.

15:12:59 THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

15:13:04 ARE WE PUTTING THIS OUT TO EVERYBODY?

15:13:05 IS EVERYBODY GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY?

15:13:07 AND MAYBE GET THOSE HIGH NUMBERS TO COME DOWN A LITTLE

15:13:10 BIT.

15:13:11 AND WHEN PEOPLE TELL US THAT WE HAVE TO OUTSOURCE, AND

15:13:16 OUTSOURCE FOR $150,000.

15:13:19 WE HAD TO OUTSOURCE FOR ARCHITECTS AT $150,000, $200 THAT

15:13:25 YOU?

15:13:26 WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS THAT?

15:13:28 SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO GET BACK TO US ON THE

15:13:31 OVERALL FRIENDS OF FUNDS GOING OUT FOR ARCHITECTURAL




15:13:40 DOING THOSE JOBS AND KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT.

15:13:42 BECAUSE THAT'S THE BASIC KEY COMPONENT.

15:13:44 SO IF YOU GET BACK TO US, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

15:13:46 >> YES, SIR.

15:13:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

15:13:49 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

15:13:49 NOW WE ARE GOING TO KEEP NUMBER 90 TILL THE END.

15:13:53 LET'S GO TO NUMBER 79, 80, 81 AND TRY TO MOVE QUICKLY

15:13:58 THROUGH THOSE.

15:13:59 MR. SPEARMAN IS HERE.

15:14:00 ANY QUESTIONS ON 79 AND 80?

15:14:03 THEY ARE BOTH LARGE NUMBERS.

15:14:04 IT AND 80.

15:14:06 >>GREG SPEARMAN: I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS WITH

15:14:09 REGARD TO ITEM 9 AND 80 AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

15:14:18 APPROVING ITEM 30, WHICH WAS A COMPANION, FOR

15:14:23 REPLACEMENT.

15:14:24 79 IS FOR GENERAL CONSTRUCTION.

15:14:27 80 IS THE --

15:14:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE ANY OF THESE WMBEs?

15:14:38 >>GREG SPEARMAN: YES, THEY ARE.

15:14:39 IN FACT ON THE GENERAL CONSTRUCTION, COMMERCIAL

15:14:42 INTERIORS, IS A CERTIFIED CITY OF TAMPA WMBE, AND ON THE

15:14:49 SILVER SITE AUSTIN CONSTRUCTION GROUP, INC., INCENTIVIZED

15:14:57 SMALL BUSINESS.




15:14:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 79.

15:15:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:15:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

15:15:08 ALL RIGHT.

15:15:09 ITEM 80.

15:15:10 WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:15:13 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

15:15:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:15:16 ALL RIGHT.

15:15:16 ANY OPPOSED?

15:15:22 ALL RIGHT.

15:15:22 ITEM NUMBER 81.

15:15:23 MRS. KERT.

15:15:24 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:15:37 I AM HERE ON ITEM 81 DEALING WITH UNMOTORIZED VEHICLES

15:15:42 AND LARGER MOTORIZED VEHICLES.

15:15:44 THE MOTION WAS TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST

15:15:47 READING DEALING WITH THE UNMOTORIZED VEHICLES, PARKING ON

15:15:51 CITY STREETS.

15:15:52 WE DISCUSSED THAT TWICE ALREADY.

15:15:54 AND ALSO TO ADD A PROVISION IN REGARDING THE LARGER

15:15:58 MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON PUBLIC STREETS, AND TO ALSO INCLUDE

15:16:02 LANGUAGE REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF A WARNING BEING

15:16:04 ISSUED.

15:16:05 SO I HAVE PROVIDED AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING




15:16:09 CONSIDERATION DEALING WITH THOSE THREE ITEMS.

15:16:12 FIRST WITH THE NONMOTORIZED VEHICLES WHICH ARE YOUR

15:16:16 TRAILERS AND YOUR BOATS, PARKING ON CITY STREETS, AS WE

15:16:19 DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

15:16:20 I CHANGED IT TO BE ON ALL CITY STREETS THAT THE CITY HAS

15:16:23 JURISDICTION OVER.

15:16:24 SO IN SHORT, THERE'S NO PARKING OF THOSE VEHICLES ON ANY

15:16:28 STREETS THAT THE CITY HAS JURISDICTION OVER.

15:16:33 THE SECOND PORTION OF IT WAS A DISCUSSION, THE MOTION

15:16:36 READ WITH THE LARGER MOTORIZED VEHICLES, DISCUSSION

15:16:40 PARTICULARLY REGARDING RVs, WHICH ARE MOTORIZED SO THEY

15:16:43 WOULD NOT FIT INTO THE FIRST SECTION WE TALKED ABOUT

15:16:46 WHICH IS NONMORTARIZED VEHICLES.

15:16:48 AND AS I POINTED OUTS TO YOU LAST TIME, YOUR CODE

15:16:50 CURRENTLY PROHIBITED PARKING TRUCKS OVER 80 INCHES ON

15:16:56 CERTAIN STREETS, AND THE CERTAIN STREETS ARE YOUR STREETS

15:17:03 ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

15:17:04 I MODIFIED THAT TO INCLUDE PARKING MOTOR VEHICLES, MOTOR

15:17:08 VEHICLES AS DEFINED BY THE STATE IS ANYTHING MOVING

15:17:10 PEOPLE OR GOODS, AND THAT INCLUDING THE RECREATIONAL

15:17:13 VEHICLES.

15:17:14 SO THAT IS PROHIBITING ANY OF THE LARGE MOTOR VEHICLES

15:17:18 OVER 80 INCHES ON STREETS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO YOUR

15:17:22 RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

15:17:28 IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT A WRITTEN WARNING WILL BE PROVIDED




15:17:31 PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A TICKET, AFTER 12 HOURS IF THE

15:17:36 VEHICLE IS STILL PARKED IN ANY PROHIBITED LOCATION, A

15:17:39 TICKET MAY BE ISSUED.

15:17:40 ANY PROHIBITED LOCATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE INSTANCE

15:17:43 WHERE SOMEONE JUST MOVED DOWN THE STREET.

15:17:46 SO I SAID IN ANY PROHIBITED LOCATION.

15:17:49 AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE THAT I MADE WAS FOR THE

15:17:54 NONMOTORIZED VEHICLE, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO

15:17:57 IMPOUND AND/OR TOW IT AFTER THEY RECEIVE THE TICKET.

15:18:03 THEY STILL HAVE NOT MOVED THEIR VEHICLE.

15:18:05 I ADDED THAT INTO YOUR LARGER MOTORIZED VEHICLES AS WELL.

15:18:08 I DID WANTS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME INFORMAL FEEDBACK I

15:18:11 HAD FROM THE PEOPLE THAT I WORKED WITH IN OUR ENFORCEMENT

15:18:15 AREA.

15:18:15 AND THEY DID EXPRESS SOME LEVEL OF CONCERN THAT REQUIRING

15:18:19 A WARNING IN THESE SITUATIONS WHERE MOST OF THE TIME IT

15:18:22 WAS NOT DOWNTOWN, IT'S TPD THAT'S GOING TO BE ENFORCING

15:18:25 THE PARKING REGULATIONS, AND THAT REQUIRING THEM TO ISSUE

15:18:28 A WRITTEN WARNING, THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR

15:18:31 SOMETHING SIMILAR WHICH IS THE INOPERABLE VEHICLES WHERE

15:18:33 THEY POST A STICKER, REQUIRES THE OFFICER TO GO AT THE

15:18:36 END OF HIS SHIFT TO VERIFY THE VEHICLE IS STILL THERE, OR

15:18:39 AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS NEXT SHIFT, AND THAT MAY BE --

15:18:46 IT'S AN INTENSIVE USE OF AN OFFICER'S TIME FOR A MOTOR

15:18:49 VEHICLE VIOLATION, A PARKING VIOLATION TO HAVE TO GO BACK




15:18:53 12 HOURS LATER AND CHECK IT TWICE BEFORE THEY CAN ISSUE A

15:18:56 $29 TICKET.

15:18:57 BUT AGAIN AS I DISCUSSED WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT SECTION

15:18:59 THAT'S A POLICY DECISION. I DID TELL THEM THAT I WOULD

15:19:02 RELAY THAT CONCERN TO YOU.

15:19:04 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS A POLICY DECISION FOR

15:19:07 CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY WILL DO THEIR BEST TO ENFORCE IT

15:19:11 AS IT IS WRITTEN.

15:19:12 IT'S JUST AN OBSTACLE TO GET INTO ENFORCEMENT.

15:19:17 BUT IT IS AVAILABLE FOR FIRST READING.

15:19:19 IF YOU DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE WARNING AND WANTED IT

15:19:22 REMOVED, YOU STILL HAVE FIRST READING TODAY AND WE COULD

15:19:25 REMOVE IT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

15:19:28 AGAIN THAT'S TOTALLY AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL.

15:19:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:19:31 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

15:19:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST TO MAKE A REFERENCE POINTS,

15:19:34 MR. CHAIRMAN.

15:19:35 I HAVE SEEN SEMI, TRACTOR AND TRAILER, ALL THE STREETS

15:19:42 SAY NO PARKING.

15:19:42 THEY PARK THE SEMI, CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES, GIVES THEM A

15:19:48 WARNING.

15:19:49 I FIND OUT ABOUT THIS.

15:19:51 THEN GOING BACK, I WENT TO CHECK OUT THAT LOCATION

15:19:53 MYSELF.




15:19:55 GUESS WHERE THE SEMI WAS.

15:19:56 THE FELLOW HAD TO GALL TO PARKING IN HIS FRONT LAWN.

15:20:02 ALL OF IT.

15:20:04 THAT'S HOW THEY ARE.

15:20:05 NOT ALL OF THEM.

15:20:06 BUT IN THIS ONE CASE.

15:20:10 CAN'T PARK IT THERE SO HE PARKS IT IN THE FRONT OF HIS

15:20:13 HOUSE.

15:20:14 NOW, THAT'S STILL A VIOLATION.

15:20:15 BUT I TELL MYSELF, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE

15:20:21 GOING TO GO.

15:20:21 WHEN YOU COME IN, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MLK WEST OF DALE

15:20:26 MABRY IS A CORRIDOR THAT'S USED MORE AND MORE, PEOPLE

15:20:31 COMING OFF THE AIRPORT, COMING THROUGH, TAKING CARGO ROAD

15:20:33 AND MAKING A LEFT ON MLK.

15:20:36 AND THAT ROAD UNTIL LATELY THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT

15:20:38 CLAMPED DOWN WAS A HAVEN FOR SEMIs PARKED ON EITHER

15:20:42 SIDE OF THE STREET.

15:20:43 AND THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF CLEANING IT OUT.

15:20:46 YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE PARKING AT NOW?

15:20:48 ON THE SIDE STREETS.

15:20:49 SO THEY DO FOR ONE THING, THEY MOVE IT TO ANOTHER SPOT.

15:20:52 I SEE THEM EVERY DAY WHEN I COME HOME FROM WORK.

15:20:55 SO I'M NOT TELLING YOU IT'S THERE EVERY DAY BUT I SEE IT

15:20:58 WHEN I COME TO WORK.




15:20:59 SO THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY THAT A BUSINESS -- IN FACT I

15:21:05 REMEMBER 15, 20 YEARS AGO, SHALL IN THE CITY THAT HAS A

15:21:09 VEHICLE DRIVING TO REPORT WHEN THEY SEE A VIOLATION.

15:21:13 NOT TOO MANY HAVE EVER HAPPENED.

15:21:16 THEY RELY ON CODE ENFORCEMENT.

15:21:18 CODE ENFORCEMENT IS DOING THE BEST THEY CAN.

15:21:20 CODE ENFORCEMENT ONE WEEKEND, UNO, A MONTH, WORKING, AND

15:21:29 I WILL SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE.

15:21:31 YOU ARE GOING TO FIND LINES FROM HERE TO PLANT CITY HAVE

15:21:34 VIOLATIONS BECAUSE THE VIOLATIONS OCCUR ON WEEKENDS, NOT

15:21:36 ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

15:21:38 THAT'S ALL.

15:21:38 THANK YOU.

15:21:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:21:40 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

15:21:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:21:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] IT LOOKS LIKE 15-86

15:21:47 WHICH SPEAKS TO THE WARNING.

15:21:49 AND I LIKE THAT.

15:21:52 THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE, SO THE OFFICER, IF THE OFFICER

15:21:56 GIVES A WARNING, AND IT'S SOMEBODY CIRCLES BACK WITHIN 12

15:22:00 HOURS LATER AND IT'S STILL NOT MOVED, THEN THE TICKET MAY

15:22:03 BE ISSUED.

15:22:03 THAT'S YOUR LANGUAGE.

15:22:05 BUT THEN IT SAYS, IF IT'S STILL NOT MOVED WITHIN ANOTHER




15:22:09 TWO HOURS, THEN IT COULD BE IMMOBILIZED OR IMPOUNDED.

15:22:15 RIGHT?

15:22:16 >>REBECCA KERT: YES.

15:22:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MY CONCERN IS, PLAYING THAT OUT,

15:22:22 LET'S SAY SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LEAVES IT THERE

15:22:28 FOR A DAY OR TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OKAY, NOW THEY

15:22:32 GET A TICKET, AND THEN TWO HOURS LATER, THEY COULD GET

15:22:37 TOWED AWAY, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME THERE TO

15:22:41 ADDRESS ANYTHING.

15:22:43 SO I THINK THE TWO HOURS MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARSH.

15:22:47 BUT I DON'T KNOW.

15:22:48 HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT THAT ONE OR TALK TO

15:22:51 TPD ON THAT?

15:22:53 >> THE TWO HOURS IS EXISTING LANGUAGE.

15:22:55 AND I WILL ALSO TELL YOU AS WITH MANY THINGS ON THE CODE

15:22:59 IN YOUR CODES, THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE TO DO IT WITHIN TWO

15:23:02 HOURS.

15:23:04 IMPOUNDMENT OR IMMOBILIZATION IS A LAST RESORT.

15:23:08 IT IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE FOR THE CITY TO DO THAT.

15:23:11 SO THE LIKELIHOOD THAT SOMEBODY GETS A TICKET AND THEN

15:23:17 TWO HOURS LATER THE CITY IS GOING TO BE OUT THEREBY WITH

15:23:21 IMPOUNDMENT OR IMMOBILIZATION PROBABLY NEVER HAPPENED

15:23:25 UNLESS IT WAS A REPEAT OFFENDER, IT WAS A VERY, VERY

15:23:29 SERIOUS ISSUE.

15:23:32 THIS GIVES THE CITY THE TOOL TO USE IT IN THOSE




15:23:35 SITUATIONS BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY ARE GOING TO OR

15:23:37 EVEN THAT THEY ARE LIKELY TO FOR THE REASONS THAT I JUST

15:23:40 MENTIONED.

15:23:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAID THIS TICKET IS LESS, RIGHT?

15:23:50 >>REBECCA KERT: THIS TICKET IS $29 UNLESS YOU ARE A

15:23:52 HABITUAL OFFENDER WHICH IS FIVE TIMES AND 3365 IN WHICH

15:23:57 CASE IT'S 100.

15:23:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

15:23:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

15:24:00 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS ORDINANCE?

15:24:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 81?

15:24:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 81.

15:24:07 YES, SIR.

15:24:13 >>BILL CARLSON: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READ

15:24:15 BEING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,

15:24:17 FLORIDA RELATING TO PARKING OF BOATS AND NONMOTOR

15:24:20 VEHICLES AND VEHICLES OVER 80 PINCHES THE MAYBE YOU CAN

15:24:23 REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15

15:24:27 PARKING, AMENDING SECTION 15-3 DEFINITIONS, AMENDING

15:24:31 SECTION 15-47, PARTING TRUCKS -- PARTING OR PARKING?

15:24:38 SHOULD THAT BE PARTING OR PARKING?

15:24:40 WHERE DID SHE GO?

15:24:42 PARKING, CAN I SAY THAT?

15:24:43 IS THAT OKAY TO AMEND IT?

15:24:45 PARKING TRUCKS OVER 80 INCHES WIDE ON CERTAIN STREETS




15:24:51 PROHIBITED, AMENDING SECTION 15-86, NONMOTOR VEHICLE

15:24:56 PARKING PROHIBITED AMENDING SECTION 15-125, ADDITIONAL

15:25:00 PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT TO INCLUDE IMMOBILIZATION,

15:25:03 IMPOUNDMENT, AND USE OF A COLLECTION AGENCY, REPEALING

15:25:06 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT

15:25:09 THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN

15:25:11 EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:25:11 >> SECOND.

15:25:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

15:25:15 CARLSON.

15:25:16 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:25:17 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:25:18 ANY OPPOSED?

15:25:19 >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 5,

15:25:23 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

15:25:26 >>REBECCA KERT: I WILL SUBMIT A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE AND

15:25:28 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPO.

15:25:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO PROBLEM.

15:25:32 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO THANK YOU.

15:25:33 YOU WORKED A LONG TIME AND REALLY HARD ON THIS AND YOU

15:25:35 ARE PROBABLY GLAD YOU DON'T HAVE TO FINISH IT BUT THANK

15:25:38 YOU SO MUCH FOR THE ALL THE TIME YOU PUT INTO THESE TWO

15:25:40 BIG ISSUES.

15:25:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:25:41 WE GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 66 AND START UP FROM THERE.




15:25:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ARE WORKING

15:25:48 BACKWARDS.

15:25:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY WANTED THE STAFF REPORTS FOR

15:25:52 10:30.

15:25:52 NOW IT'S ALMOST FRIDAY.

15:26:01 OH, NUMBER 78 FOR USE OF THE CITY SALE.

15:26:04 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THE BLACK HISTORY

15:26:06 ACTIVITIES?

15:26:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.

15:26:08 >> SECOND.

15:26:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:26:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO MOVE THEM 78, THE

15:26:15 RESOLUTION.

15:26:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:26:16 OPPOSED?

15:26:17 OKAY.

15:26:17 ITEM 66 REGARDING THE SKATEBOARD RAMP.

15:26:23 THIS IS SECOND READING.

15:26:25 >>CATHERINE COYLE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

15:26:26 THIS SET OF REGULATION CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27, YOU

15:26:30 TRANSMITTED THEM BACK ON OCTOBER 24th TO THE PLANNING

15:26:32 COMMISSION.

15:26:34 THEY DID GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEGINNING OF

15:26:36 JANUARY.

15:26:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.




15:26:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 66.

15:26:49 THROUGH 77.

15:26:50 >> SECOND.

15:26:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC

15:26:54 HEARINGS.

15:27:05 WHEN WE GET TO THE QUASI-JUDICIAL -- SORRY ABOUT THAT.

15:27:13 >>CATHERINE COYLE: THAT'S OKAY.

15:27:14 YOU THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THEM BEGINNING OF

15:27:16 JANUARY.

15:27:17 THEY DID APPROVAL FOR THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU.

15:27:21 SO WE ARE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TODAY.

15:27:24 AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MENTIONED, SKATEBOARD RAMP

15:27:30 AMENDMENTS ARE HERE.

15:27:31 THOSE WERE COUNCIL-INITIATED AMENDMENTS.

15:27:34 THERE ARE ALSO A SERIES OF CLEAN-UP ITEMS.

15:27:37 CHAPTER 27, CLARIFYING LANGUAGE RELATED TO A DISTRICTS.

15:27:44 AND FOOTNOTE, SOME OF THE TABLES.

15:27:46 I CAN GO THROUGH THEM IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO.

15:27:49 THEN THE ONE ON THE FIRST PAGE IS AMENDING THE DEFINITION

15:27:52 OF CEMETERY, TO BRING IT IN LINE WITH THE STATE

15:27:55 DEFINITION OF CEMETERY.

15:27:56 I CAN REHASH THEM IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO.

15:27:59 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

15:28:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. COYLE?

15:28:04 SEEING NONE, ALL RIGHT.




15:28:05 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

15:28:07 ITEM NUMBER 66?

15:28:08 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

15:28:19 ROD HATCHET, 1013 EAST PATTERSON STREET.

15:28:22 I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION

15:28:25 TO CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT, CODE

15:28:28 ENFORCEMENT AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR ALL THEIR

15:28:30 ASSISTANCE WITH THIS ORDINANCE.

15:28:32 WHILE THIS ORDINANCE MAY NOT HELP RESTORE THE PRIVACY OF

15:28:34 MY WIFE AND I USED TO HAVE PRIOR TO THIS INTRUSIVE

15:28:38 STRUCTURE OR THE ABILITY TO HAVE A QUIET AND PEACEFUL

15:28:40 BACKYARD ENVIRONMENT, IT WILL HOWEVER PREVENT ANY

15:28:42 RESIDENTS IN THE FUTURE FROM HAVING TO FACE THE SAME

15:28:45 SITUATION THAT MY WIFE AND I ARE FORCED TO DEAL WITH.

15:28:48 ALL RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR RECREATIONAL

15:28:51 ACTIVITY OF CHOICE IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD.

15:28:53 HOWEVER,ED SHUT NEVER INFRINGE ON THE PEACE OR PRIVACY OF

15:28:57 ADJACENT RESIDENTS.

15:28:59 MANY OF THESE RAMPS STRUCTURES ARE BUILT WITH IN A

15:29:02 CONSIDERATION FOR THE CITY'S SOUND ORDINANCE AND

15:29:04 WELL-BEING OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.

15:29:05 THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THOSE ITEMS.

15:29:08 WHILE WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS

15:29:11 OF OUR CITY WOULD BE RESPECTFUL OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, IT

15:29:14 SIMPLY IS NOT THE CASE.




15:29:16 I TRUST YOU WILL SUPPORTS THIS NEEDED ORDINANCE TODAY.

15:29:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

15:29:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:29:22 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:29:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF LEGAL

15:29:25 DEPARTMENT, CHAIRMAN?

15:29:27 I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL ANSWER BUT THIS ORDINANCE IS

15:29:30 CERTAINLY NOT TAKING CARE OF THE PROBLEM THAT ORIGINATED

15:29:33 THE ORDINANCE.

15:29:33 HOWEVER, AN ACT OF GOD THAT THAT STRUCTURE BY FIRE OR

15:29:40 WIND OR WHATEVER IS DESTROYED, DOES IT HAVE THE SAME YOU

15:29:45 HAVE WITH HOUSES OR DO YOU HAVE TO BUILD MORE THAN 50%,

15:29:49 THIS ORDINANCE TAKES PRECEDENCE, THEN, AM I CORRECT?

15:30:02 >>CATHERINE COYLE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

15:30:03 IT'S REALLY A ZONING QUESTION.

15:30:05 YES, IF IT IS DESTROYED, THEN IT HAS TO BE REBUILT TO THE

15:30:09 CURRENTS STANDARD.

15:30:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:30:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:30:12 ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 66?

15:30:14 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

15:30:16 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:30:18 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:30:19 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:30:20 ALL RIGHT.




15:30:21 THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:30:23 WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT?

15:30:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.

15:30:29 66.

15:30:32 I MOVE IN REGARD TO 2019-8 CHAPTER 27, AN ORDINANCE BEING

15:30:37 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE

15:30:40 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO SKATEBOARD

15:30:42 RAMPS, SEAM CEMETERY DEFINITION, AND GENERAL CORRECTIONS

15:30:46 TO ZONING USE, DIMENSIONAL AND PARKING TABLES MAKING

15:30:50 REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27,

15:30:53 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-43

15:30:56 DEFINITIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-156, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE

15:31:01 OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-184,

15:31:06 OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY AND

15:31:08 SPECIAL USES, REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING RATIOS BY USES,

15:31:12 CREATING SECTION 27-290.9, SKATEBOARD RAMPS, REPEALING

15:31:18 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT

15:31:21 THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN

15:31:23 EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:31:25 I HOPE THAT WAS THE RIGHT ONE.

15:31:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

15:31:27 >> SECOND.

15:31:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:31:32 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:31:34 ALL IN FAVOR?




15:31:35 ALL RIGHT.

15:31:46 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH THE VIERA BEING

15:31:52 ABSENT.

15:31:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:31:54 FOR THE NEXT ITEMS BEGINNING WITH 67, IF YOU HAVE NOT

15:31:56 BEEN SWORN IN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO STAND AND BE SWORN IN AT

15:32:00 THIS TIME.

15:32:01 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

15:32:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:32:10 WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 67 ON THIS SECOND READING.

15:32:13 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

15:32:16 COORDINATION.

15:32:17 ITEM NUMBER 67 IS REZ 19-56.

15:32:20 IT'S A SECOND READING FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AT YOUR

15:32:26 JANUARY 16th HEARING.

15:32:28 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND FILED AT THE

15:32:32 CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

15:32:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:32:35 PETITIONER.

15:32:35 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

15:32:45 WE HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS.

15:32:49 WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

15:32:50 ANYBODY WHO HAS QUESTIONS.

15:32:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

15:32:54 PETITIONER?




15:32:55 ALL RIGHT.

15:32:56 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 67?

15:33:00 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:33:02 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

15:33:05 ALL RIGHT.

15:33:05 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:33:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ 19-56, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED

15:33:12 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING

15:33:15 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 302 EAST 7TH AVENUE

15:33:18 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

15:33:20 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

15:33:22 CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD

15:33:25 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED,

15:33:29 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:33:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:33:34 ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

15:33:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

15:33:45 ABSENT.

15:33:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 68.

15:33:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE]

15:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO PROBLEM.

15:34:00 WE'LL SEE YOU.

15:34:03 WE ARE GOING INTO A NIGHT MEETING.

15:34:05 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 68 IS REZ 19-97.

15:34:12 WHEN THIS WAS FIRST HEARD AT FIRST READING ON JANUARY




15:34:15 16th, THERE WAS A NOTICE ISSUE.

15:34:17 SO UNFORTUNATELY WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HEARING TODAY A NEW

15:34:23 FIRST READING.

15:34:24 AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE IT -- OR NOT CONTINUE IT.

15:34:28 AFTER YOU APPROVE IT ON FIRST READING TODAY, THEN WE'LL

15:34:30 MOVE IT FOR A NEW SECOND READING.

15:34:32 SO THERE WAS A NOTICING ISSUE WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE

15:34:36 WITH THE FIRST READING SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS HEARING A

15:34:39 NEW FIRST READING.

15:34:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO RESTART IT.

15:34:43 >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE TO HEAR ALL THE

15:34:45 EVIDENCE AGAIN OR CAN WE USE THE OLD EVIDENCE?

15:34:48 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:34:52 I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS CASE.

15:34:54 HE HAS NOT CONTACTED ME IN THE LAST TWO DAYS.

15:34:57 HE'S NOT EVEN HERE.

15:34:58 SO --

15:35:01 >>> CAN WE CONTINUE THIS?

15:35:05 >>REBECCA KERT: AT THIS POINT I RECOMMEND YOU CONTINUES

15:35:07 THIS MATTER AND WE'LL GET IT WORKED OUT IN THE INTERIM.

15:35:09 I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT CONFUSION.

15:35:11 YOU HOPE NOTHING BAD HAPPENED AND CLEAR UP WHY HE'S NOT

15:35:14 HERE.

15:35:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE

15:35:17 THIS TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING?




15:35:21 >>REBECCA KERT: YES.

15:35:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 20.

15:35:24 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CONTINUE TO

15:35:27 FEBRUARY 20 WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:35:29 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:35:30 ALL RIGHT.

15:35:30 ITEM NUMBER 69.

15:35:35 MARY NECESSARY ITEM 69 IS REZ 19-10, A SECOND READING.

15:35:39 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.

15:35:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:35:42 DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 69?

15:35:45 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?

15:35:46 PLEASE APPROACH -- NO?

15:35:48 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

15:35:50 ITEM NUMBER 69?

15:35:52 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

15:35:55 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:35:57 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

15:35:59 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:36:00 ALL RIGHT.

15:36:00 COUNCILMAN CITRO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND READ BEING THIS.

15:36:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ 19-103.

15:36:09 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

15:36:12 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

15:36:15 VICINITY OF THE 2522 AND 2966 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IN




15:36:21 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

15:36:23 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

15:36:25 CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD, PLANNED

15:36:29 DEVELOPMENT, VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING, MINOR AND MAJOR

15:36:32 VEHICLE REPAIR, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, WAREHOUSE,

15:36:37 TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING,

15:36:44 MAJOR AND MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS

15:36:48 GOODS, RESTAURANT, WAREHOUSE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

15:36:50 DATE.

15:36:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:36:53 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

15:36:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY REQUEST MIRANDA

15:37:03 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND VIERA BEING ABSENT.

15:37:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.

15:37:07 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 70 IS REZ 19-104, A SECOND

15:37:16 READING FROM YOUR JANUARY FIRST READING.

15:37:20 THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

15:37:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:37:21 APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?

15:37:24 YOU DO NOT.

15:37:25 ANYBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 70?

15:37:29 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:37:31 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

15:37:34 ALL RIGHT.

15:37:34 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING NUMBER 70?




15:37:41 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE REZ 19-104.

15:37:43 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

15:37:45 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

15:37:47 VICINITY OF 17520 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF

15:37:52 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION

15:37:54 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD-A PLANNED

15:37:57 DEVELOPMENT, ALTERNATIVE, RESTAURANT, TO PD, PLANNED

15:38:00 DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, PROVIDING AN

15:38:02 EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:38:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

15:38:07 CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:38:09 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

15:38:10 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA

15:38:18 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND VIERA ABSENT.

15:38:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 71.

15:38:24 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 71 IS REZ 19-109,

15:38:29 EUCLIDEAN REZONING FOR SECOND READING.

15:38:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPLICANT, PLEASE.

15:38:33 >> PAMALA JO HATLEY.

15:38:40 I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE APPLICANT.

15:38:45 THE REQUEST FOR REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE

15:38:48 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND FURTHERS SEVERAL POLICIES IN THE

15:38:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT.

15:38:56 IT WILL PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDEVELOP UNDERUTILIZED

15:38:59 LOTS AND REPLACE OBSOLETE HOUSING STOCK WITH MODERN,




15:39:02 SAFE, SUSTAINABLE HOUSING FOR WORKFORCE OCCUPANCY.

15:39:08 WE REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE REZONING.

15:39:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:39:13 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

15:39:14 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 71?

15:39:17 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:39:19 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:39:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:39:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:39:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FILE REZ 19-109.

15:39:33 I'LL MOVE THE ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

15:39:36 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

15:39:38 VICINITY OF 3905, 3909, AND 3911 EAST 15th AVENUE IN

15:39:43 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

15:39:45 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

15:39:47 CLASSIFICATION RM-16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, TO RM-24,

15:39:51 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:39:53 AND THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD OTHER THAN THAT,

15:39:57 AS MUCH AS I ADMIRE THE VERY BRAVE AND ETHICAL ATTORNEY

15:40:01 WHO MADE THIS PRESENTATION, WHEN WE ARE APPROVING A

15:40:05 EUCLIDEAN ZONING, THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IN REGARD TO

15:40:09 WHAT'S GOING TO GO THERE OTHER THAN THE PRODUCT THAT

15:40:12 COULD FIT IN AN RM-24. SO WHILE I BELIEVE HER COMPLETELY

15:40:16 THAT HER COMPLIANT DESIRES TO BUILD WORKFORCE HOUSING AND

15:40:20 I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY




15:40:22 FOR THE RECORD THAT IF IT'S NOT A PD OR OTHERWISE

15:40:25 CONDITIONED, THAT THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES.

15:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

15:40:30 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND

15:40:32 FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

15:40:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

15:40:44 ABSENT.

15:40:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 72.

15:40:47 >>BARBARA LYNCH: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE TO

15:40:51 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

15:40:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

15:40:53 NO?

15:40:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE NOT RETIRING, ARE YOU?

15:40:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, DON'T RETIRE.

15:41:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING ANY MORE

15:41:04 RESIGNATIONS.

15:41:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MORATORIUM.

15:41:09 >>TRUETT GARDNER: NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON 72 AND 73

15:41:12 WHICH WE OPENED TOGETHER BEFORE.

15:41:15 REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE PLAN.

15:41:17 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

15:41:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GARDNER?

15:41:20 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 72?

15:41:24 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:41:26 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.




15:41:28 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:41:29 COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF YOU WOULD TAKE THAT ONE.

15:41:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD I ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION BEFORE

15:41:35 HE MOVES THOSE TWO?

15:41:38 MS. ZELMAN, IN REGARD TO 73 I SEE A LOT OF LANGUAGE OF

15:41:42 THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS INCLUDED IN BOLD THERE.

15:41:46 ON OUR AGENDA.

15:41:51 DOES LEGAL FEEL IT'S NECESSARY TO INCLUDE ANY OF THAT

15:41:56 LANGUAGE FOR SECOND READING, OR WAS IT ADD QUALITY JUST

15:41:58 TO INCLUDE IT IN THE FIRST READING?

15:42:01 OR MS. KERT.

15:42:02 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:42:05 WE HAVE BEEN HANDLING IT AT FIRST READING AND HAVE FOUND

15:42:08 THAT IS SUFFICIENT FOR PURPOSES OF MEETING THE STATUTE

15:42:12 THAT REQUIRES YOU TO MAKE FINDINGS OF FACT.

15:42:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

15:42:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:42:19 YOU ALREADY READ IT?

15:42:21 COUNCILMAN GUDES, GO AHEAD AND READ 72.

15:42:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE VAC 19-27, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR

15:42:30 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING

15:42:33 CLOSING CONTINUING ABANDONING PORTIONS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY

15:42:35 KNOWN AS CARMEN STREET LYING SOUTH OF CASS STREET, NORTH

15:42:38 OF NORTH B STREET, EAST OF GILCHRIST AVENUE AND WEST OF

15:42:42 CSX TRANSPORTATION RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE IN THE CITY




15:42:46 OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING

15:42:49 MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO

15:42:52 CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND

15:42:57 RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING

15:42:59 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:42:59 >> SECOND.

15:43:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:43:03 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

15:43:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU NEED TO

15:43:19 VOTE.

15:43:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

15:43:23 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

15:43:25 ABSENT.

15:43:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 73.

15:43:27 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 73 IS REZ 19' 92, A

15:43:32 REZONING REQUEST FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SECOND

15:43:34 READING.

15:43:35 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.

15:43:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:43:41 ANY QUESTIONS?

15:43:41 APPLICANT?

15:43:44 NO?

15:43:44 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 73?

15:43:48 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:43:50 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.




15:43:51 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:43:52 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:43:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ-19' 292.

15:43:57 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

15:43:59 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

15:44:02 VICINITY OF 1102, 1112 AND 1116 EAST CARMEN STREET IN THE

15:44:08 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

15:44:10 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG

15:44:13 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,

15:44:15 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

15:44:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

15:44:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:44:24 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

15:44:24 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

15:44:33 ABSENT.

15:44:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 74 HERE.

15:44:36 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY KATE WELLS

15:44:44 ASKING WE CONTINUE THIS TO FEBRUARY 20, 2020.

15:44:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE IT BE CONTINUED TO FEBRUARY 20,

15:44:55 2020.

15:44:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 75 I SEE CANNOT BE HEARD.

15:45:04 CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS?

15:45:07 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM 74 AND 75 ARE RELATED SO YOU

15:45:12 CONTINUED ITEM 74 AT MY REQUEST.

15:45:14 AND WITH REGARD TO ITEM 75, I HAVE FILED AND IT SHOULD BE




15:45:18 IN YOUR RECORDS A RESOLUTION RESCINDING THE PRIOR

15:45:25 RESOLUTION SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR TODAY AND

15:45:26 RESCHEDULING FOR FEBRUARY 20 AT 10:30 AND MARCH 5 AT 9:30

15:45:31 AND THAT WAY THIS ITEM WILL BE HEARD IN TAN ITEM DID --

15:45:36 TANDEM WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.

15:45:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON ITEM NUMBER 75 I WILL MOVE THOSE

15:45:40 TWO DATES AND SPECIFICALLY WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT

15:45:42 WOULD BE FEBRUARY 20th IS 02022020.

15:45:51 >>CATE WELLS: I DID THAT INTENTIONALLY.

15:45:52 THANK YOU.

15:45:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:45:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES. ALL IN FAVOR?

15:45:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE GO TO ITEM 76 WHICH IS A

15:46:05 PETITION FOR REVIEW.

15:46:06 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:46:10 COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR SU-1

15:46:13 SPECIAL USE PERMIT WHICH YOU ALL ARE AWARE A SPECIAL USE

15:46:16 IS ONE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED IN THE CODE TO BE

15:46:19 AN ALLOWED USE, IF IT MEETS THE CRITERIA SPECIFIED IN THE

15:46:23 CODE FOR THE SPECIFIC USE WHICH IN THIS CASE IS AN

15:46:26 EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.

15:46:28 THOSE SPECIFIC CRITERIA ARE LISTED ON PAGE 2 OF THE STAFF

15:46:31 REPORT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR AGENDA BACKUP.

15:46:33 SO THIS APPLICATION DOESN'T MEET THE CODE CRITERIA SO

15:46:36 YOUR STAFF COULD NOT APPROVE THE APPLICATION BECAUSE




15:46:39 STAFF CANNOT GRANT WAIVERS.

15:46:40 SO PETITIONER IS HERE TO REQUEST WAIVERS FROM COUNCIL

15:46:44 THIS AFTERNOON, AND COUNCIL IS ABLE TO GRANT THE WAIVERS

15:46:47 IF YOU FIND THAT THE APPLICATION AFTER GRANTING THE

15:46:51 WAIVER IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL

15:46:53 STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-129 OF THE CODE.

15:46:57 SO THIS REVIEW HEARING IS DE NOVO WHICH MEANS THAT YOU

15:47:00 ARE NOT LIMITED IN YOUR REVIEW TO THE INFORMATION WE GOT

15:47:06 OR EVIDENCE THAT STAFF USED IN ITS REVIEW.

15:47:08 YOU MUST APPLY YOUR CRITERIA TO THE CODE AND EVIDENCE AS

15:47:13 PRESENTED AND IN A MOMENT I WILL PASS OUT THE SAMPLE

15:47:17 MOTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND ERIC COTTON WILL COME

15:47:20 FORWARD TO PRESENT THE CASE TO YOU.

15:47:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:47:25 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)

15:47:35 >>ERIC COTTON: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

15:47:37 AS MS. JOHNSON VELEZ SAID THIS IS A REVIEW FOR SU-1, MR.

15:47:47 FORD IS BEHIND ME, APPLIED FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY

15:47:50 RESIDENCE AT 815 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.

15:47:54 THIS IS THE PROPERTY AT 815 WEST COLUMBUS.

15:48:04 YOU SEE WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

15:48:06 SO THERE'S TWO CRITERIA THAT HE DID NOT MEET THAT ARE SET

15:48:09 FORTH IN THE CODE UNDER SECTION 27-132 MAXIMUM SIZE FOR

15:48:13 ONE IS 600 SQUARE FEET.

15:48:16 THE PROPOSED EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE IS 720 SQUARE




15:48:19 FEET.

15:48:19 AND THE OTHER PROVISION OF THE CODE SAYS EXTENDED FAMILY

15:48:24 RESIDENCE MAY BE DESIGNED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A

15:48:26 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WITHIN A SEPARATE CONFORMING

15:48:30 STRUCTURE, MAY NOT BE LOCATED IN NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE.

15:48:36 SO IN LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT HAS TWO

15:48:40 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

15:48:42 THIS UNDER THE ZONING CODE IS CONSIDERED A FRONT YARD OF

15:48:46 THE ASSOCIATED PROPERTY.

15:48:49 SO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ARE NONCONFORMING, TOO CLOSE

15:48:54 TO THE SETBACK, AND NEITHER OF THEM MEETS THE REQUIRED

15:48:58 SIDE YARD SETBACK.

15:48:59 SO TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IS

15:49:03 2,166 SQUARE FEET.

15:49:05 MAXIMUM SIZE IN THE RS-50 FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE

15:49:08 REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS BEING USED FOR, 750 SQUARE FEET.

15:49:12 SO BASED ON THOSE TWO CRITERIA, MAXIMUM SIZE OF EXTENDED

15:49:17 FAMILY RESIDENCE AND MAXIMUM SIZE OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURE,

15:49:21 ADMINISTRATIVELY WE HAVE TO DENY THE REQUEST, AND THEN

15:49:23 THE PETITIONER IS GOING TO APPEAL TO COUNCIL.

15:49:27 WITH THESE TWO STRUCTURES FROM QUESTION, THERE IS THE

15:49:30 PROPOSED EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.

15:49:34 THIS WAS BUILT IN 1940.

15:49:36 THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1928.

15:49:39 THE MAIN HOUSE.




15:49:40 AND THERE'S AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE BACK.

15:49:45 BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.

15:49:51 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

15:49:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON?

15:49:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT'S THE ZONING OF THE LAND?

15:49:59 RS-50.

15:50:00 AND I SEE THE TOP BUILDINGS HAS TWO FRONT DOORS?

15:50:05 >> PROBABLY A DUPLEX BACK IN THE DAY PROBABLY BEFORE MR.

15:50:08 FORD OWNED IT.

15:50:09 THERE IS A COMMENT IN THE CITY'S MAINFRAME SAYING --

15:50:14 THERE WERE TWO PRACTICES IT COULD HAVE GONE.

15:50:17 THERE WAS A FORMAL DECISION PROCESS TO GO TO, TO TRY TO

15:50:20 PROVE THE NONCONFORMING STATUS AS A DUPLEX.

15:50:23 IF HE COULD NOT PROVE THAT, AN APPEAL PROCESS GOES BEFORE

15:50:29 A HEARING MASTER.

15:50:33 CITY COUNCIL IS QUICKER AND EASIER.

15:50:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS NOT A RENTABLE?

15:50:38 >>ERIC COTTON: NO, SIR.

15:50:38 I THINK HIS SISTER LIVES THERE.

15:50:42 ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

15:50:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

15:50:44 NO?

15:50:47 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

15:50:48 >> CHARLES FORD, 815 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.

15:50:53 I BOUGHT THE PLACE ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, AND I HAVE BEEN




15:50:56 LIVING THERE WITH MY FAMILY.

15:50:57 I HAVE A WIFE AND SIX KIDS AND TWO OLDER SISTERS.

15:51:01 WE BOUGHT THE PLACE.

15:51:03 THEY TOLD ME IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN.

15:51:05 AND SO ONE OF MY SISTERS IS UPSTAIRS.

15:51:08 ONE DOWNSTAIRS IN A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT DUPLEX, UP AND

15:51:12 DOWN.

15:51:13 SO LIVING THERE THE LAST 30 YEARS, AND I HAD IN A

15:51:17 PROBLEMS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYTHING ELSE.

15:51:19 JUST LIKE HE SAID, I BOUGHT THE PLACE FOR $55,000.

15:51:25 NOW IT'S ABOUT 500,000.

15:51:27 YES.

15:51:28 AND I HAVE BEEN AN OFFICER FOR THE STATE FOR 25 YEARS.

15:51:32 AND NO PROBLEM WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL.

15:51:35 RETIRED FIVE YEARS AGO.

15:51:37 AND IN THE LAST YEAR, AS PART OF MY RETIREMENT, I PUT A

15:51:42 BIG POOL IN THE YARD, AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS OR

15:51:46 SOMEBODY COMPLAINED.

15:51:47 I HADN'T HAD ANY PROBLEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 30 YEARS.

15:51:54 HADN'T HAD ANYTHING.

15:51:54 AND I HAVE A LARGE FAMILY.

15:51:56 MY SISTERS AND BROTHERS STAYED IN THAT APARTMENT.

15:51:59 THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT THE PLACE.

15:52:01 ONE OF MY SISTERS PASSED AWAY.

15:52:03 MY SON IS IN ONE OF THE APARTMENTS DOWNSTAIRS.




15:52:07 BUT THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO ME, EXPLAINED TO ME THE

15:52:10 PROCESS, HOW I COULD GO.

15:52:12 I STILL GOT TO GO IN FRONT OF THE MAGISTRATE ON THE

15:52:15 18th BECAUSE LAST TIME SOMEBODY WAS DOWN THERE, I HAD

15:52:21 ALREADY APPLIED DOWN HERE, AND I TRIED TO CANCEL THIS

15:52:25 APPOINTMENT, BUT YOU GUYS WAS CLOSED DURING THE HOLIDAYS,

15:52:28 SO I HAD TO -- I COULDN'T POSTPONE IT.

15:52:32 AND WHAT HE SAID WAS, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME DOWN

15:52:36 HERE BECAUSE THEY REVIEWED IT BECAUSE THEY SAID THE PLACE

15:52:41 WAS VACANT FOR 180 DAYS BACK IN 1990.

15:52:47 AND I MEAN IT WASN'T JUST VACANT.

15:52:52 I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK OF THE WORD.

15:52:56 LIKE OWNER JUST LEFT THE STATE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

15:52:59 BUT IT WAS IN THE REALTOR'S HANDS IN PLANT CITY.

15:53:01 SO IT JUST WASN'T A LOST PIECE OF PROPERTY.

15:53:06 THEY HE THIS JUST HADN'T SOLD IT AND NOBODY LIVED IN

15:53:09 THERE FOR LIKE SIX MONTHS OR KNOW, UNTIL ANOTHER PERSON

15:53:13 DID BUY IT, AND I BOUGHT IT FROM HIM.

15:53:16 BUT LIKE I SAY, THE CITY CAME OUT WHEN I WAS WORKING 15

15:53:22 YEARS AGO, GAVE ME A CITATION, AND PEOPLE GOING TO LIVE

15:53:27 THERE, YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE SCREENED WINDOWS ON THE WHOLE

15:53:30 APARTMENT AND THIS AND THAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

15:53:31 AND I HAD SOME TREES CUTS DOWN IN THE ALLEY.

15:53:34 SO 15 YEARS AGO I DID THAT.

15:53:36 I PUT SCREENS AROUND THE WHOLE APARTMENT BUILDING,




15:53:39 CLEANED UP THE TRASH, CITATION WAS GONE.

15:53:43 NOTHING WAS EVER SAID.

15:53:44 AND HERE IT IS, I'M RETIRED, OLD MAN, 72 YEARS OLD, ON

15:53:50 PENSION, NOW THIS COMES UP AT THE LAST SIX MONTHS, I HAVE

15:53:53 BEEN GOING THROUGH H-E-L-L.

15:53:58 BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ME 100%.

15:54:02 I HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH TO THEM, AND I CAN'T SAY

15:54:05 ANYTHING BAD --

15:54:08 >> I CAN.

15:54:09 [ LAUGHTER ]

15:54:11 >> THEY WANT TO GIVE ME A ROOM, I'LL TELL YOU.

15:54:17 AND THIS IS WHY I AM KIND OF SICK AND TIRED OF IT.

15:54:20 I JUST WANT TO BE LEFT IN PEACE IN MY RETIREMENT.

15:54:23 I BEEN WITH MY WIFE 52 YEARS, AND DID OUR JOB AND WE JUST

15:54:28 WANTS TO SIT BACK AND ENJOY OUR GRANDKIDS. BUT HAS BEEN

15:54:33 THE PROBLEM NOW AND IT HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM FOR 30

15:54:35 YEARS.

15:54:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE NOT RENTING IT OUT TO

15:54:38 ANYONE?

15:54:40 >> MY SISTER IS 80 YEARS OLD.

15:54:44 SHE SAYS SHE HAS TO MOVE OUT OF HER PLACE.

15:54:46 I HAD TO DO, THEY HAD TWO KITCHENS INSIDE THERE.

15:54:50 AND I HAD TO TAKE ONE KITCHEN OUT TO MAKE IT AN IN-LAW

15:54:54 APARTMENT BECAUSE THEY SAID WE CAN'T HAVE IN-LAWS

15:54:57 APARTMENT WITH TWO KITCHENS.




15:54:59 SO I END UP TAKING ONE OF THE KITCHENS OUT.

15:55:02 AND THEN MY SON, WHO IS 29 YEARS OLD, HE COMES NEXT DOOR

15:55:07 TO MAMA'S HOUSE, GETS HIS FOOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT

15:55:12 FOR 30 YEARS, BOTH MY SISTERS HAD THEIR OWN KITCHEN AND

15:55:16 NEVER HAD IN A PROBLEM OUT OF IT.

15:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU AREN'T RUNNING A BUSINESS.

15:55:20 IT'S JUST A FAMILY.

15:55:21 >> LIKE I SAID I BEEN WORKING 16 HOURS A DAY AS AN

15:55:25 OFFICER FOR THE STATE.

15:55:25 I WORKED FIVE YEARS AS A PARAMEDIC AT ST. JOE'S.

15:55:29 I DIDN'T HAVE TO RENT IT OUT BECAUSE I GOT SUCH A LARGE

15:55:32 FAMILY.

15:55:32 I COME FROM A FAMILY OF LIKE 13 AND MY DAD ASKED ME TO

15:55:36 TAKE CARE OF MY TWO OLDER SISTERS, NEVER GOT MARRIED OR

15:55:40 ANYTHING ELSE, AND SHE HAS BEEN GETTING A DISABILITY

15:55:42 CHECKS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS AT THAT APARTMENT RIGHT

15:55:45 THERE.

15:55:46 YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST -- THIS IS ALL CRAZY ALL OF A

15:55:49 SUDDEN THE LAST SIX MONTHS WHAT I BEEN GOING THROUGH.

15:55:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND UNLESS YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO,

15:55:56 IT MAY NOT BE A NEIGHBOR.

15:55:57 >> OH, YEAH.

15:56:02 I GET OFFERS EVERY DAY.

15:56:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BECAUSE CODE ENFORCEMENT NOW HAS

15:56:06 BECOME FROM REACTIVE TO PROACTIVE AND THEY ARE GOING IN




15:56:10 THE STREETS AND LOOKING.

15:56:11 AND WHAT THEY SEE.

15:56:12 AND THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING NOT PRIMARILY IN THIS AREA

15:56:16 WHERE YOU LIVE.

15:56:16 I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE.

15:56:18 YOU LIVE JUST WEST OF NORTH BOULEVARD, THREE STREETS.

15:56:26 I HAVE A TEACHER THAT I USED TO GO PLAY TRUMPET WHEN I

15:56:30 WAS A TEENAGER.

15:56:31 WHAT I AM SAYING, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE PROACTIVE

15:56:34 THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN THEM.

15:56:36 THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE

15:56:39 RELATIVE IN THE BACK.

15:56:40 AM I CORRECT?

15:56:43 >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.

15:56:44 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

15:56:46 MR. FORD WAS GOING THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE PROCESS.

15:56:48 THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM TO HAVE HIS RELATIVE LIVING THERE.

15:56:52 IT'S JUST THE TWO ISSUES BEFORE COUNCIL.

15:56:55 THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THE OVERALL SQUARE

15:56:58 FOOTAGE OF THE STRUCTURE.

15:57:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT'S HAPPENING JUST WEST OF YOU,

15:57:04 THEY GOT A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE.

15:57:06 THEY RENT READY A GARAGE FOR REALLY USED TO BE A GARAGE

15:57:11 THAT THEY ENCLOSED.

15:57:12 16 BY 9 FOR $700 A MONTH.




15:57:15 AND THAT LITTLE AREA, 16 BY 9, YOU HAVE TOILET, A

15:57:18 KITCHEN, EVERYTHING.

15:57:19 AND YOU WALK LIKE THIS, GO TO BED.

15:57:23 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.

15:57:24 THERE WAS 232 OF THESE FOUND IN A VERY SMALL AREA OF WEST

15:57:28 TAMPA.

15:57:29 232 OF THEM.

15:57:30 SO THEY ARE ALL IN VIOLATION ON THE OTHER SIDE.

15:57:34 I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, I PLEASURE YOU COMING BACK.

15:57:37 >> WELL, I BEEN A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN.

15:57:39 I COME FROM CALIFORNIA.

15:57:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I AM GOING TO COLLECT IT OUT.

15:57:44 3205 LINCOLN CAME UP TO ME, A LADY HERE, IT PASSED BY

15:57:49 COUNCIL, AND SAID, NO, THAT'S MY RELATIVE.

15:57:53 PUT UP A WALL.

15:57:54 I SAID PUT UP A WALL?

15:57:55 YOU CAN'T PUT YOU WILL A WALL IF THAT'S YOUR RELATIVE

15:57:58 BECAUSE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO EAT.

15:58:00 IF IT'S 3207 LINCOLN IT'S FOR SALE BECAUSE I DRIVE BY

15:58:04 THOSE HOUSES.

15:58:05 I AM NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG.

15:58:07 NOT IN YOUR CASE. I AM GOING TO VERIFY WHAT I AM SAYING.

15:58:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:58:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:58:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY AND




15:58:16 YOUR CANDOR ON ALL OF THIS.

15:58:19 MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF YOU SOLD THE PROPERTY 20 YEARS FROM

15:58:23 NOW OR SOMETHING --

15:58:27 >> I'M 72 NOW.

15:58:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU LOOK GREAT.

15:58:31 >> THANK YOU.

15:58:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU GET MY POINT TO MRS. ZELMAN A

15:58:34 MINUTE AGO, DOES THIS APPROVAL RUN WITH THE LAND OR JUST

15:58:38 RUN WITH HIM?

15:58:39 AND THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION.

15:58:42 IT'S NOT A QUESTION TO YOU, SIR.

15:58:44 I'M SORRY.

15:58:44 THIS IS A TECHNICAL QUESTION I NEED TO ASK STAFF, MS.

15:58:50 VELEZ OR WHATEVER.

15:58:53 I THINK IT'S MORE OF A LEGAL QUESTION, TO BE HONEST WITH

15:58:55 YOU.

15:58:58 I HAVE THREE ATTORNEYS HERE.

15:59:01 >>ERIC COTTON: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

15:59:02 UNDER THE CODE WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIAL USE FOR EXTENDED

15:59:05 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ONCE A YEAR WE VERIFY WHO IS LIVING

15:59:08 THERE.

15:59:09 IF THE PROPERTY OR THE RELATIVE CHANGES, WE ARE SUPPOSED

15:59:13 TO BE NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE.

15:59:14 AND WE CAN REVERIFY THAT.

15:59:16 AND THAT'S THE CASE TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE.




15:59:19 SO IF MR. FORD WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY 15 OR 20 YEARS

15:59:22 FROM NOW, THE SPECIAL USE WOULD GO AWAY IN THIS CASE.

15:59:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND TO ADDRESS MR. MIRANDA'S CONCERN,

15:59:30 I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

15:59:31 I THINK IT'S GREAT YOU HAVE A FAMILY COMPOUND.

15:59:34 I'M JEALOUS.

15:59:35 I WISH MY GRANDCHILDREN WERE NEARBY AND WE COULD DO THAT

15:59:38 TOO.

15:59:38 BUT THAT'S A SIDE POINTS.

15:59:39 BUT MY POINTS IS, IT'S GREATS WHAT YOU ARE DOING THERE.

15:59:42 I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT UNLESS THERE'S SOME AMAZING

15:59:45 REASON NOT TO.

15:59:47 BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULDN'T CONTINUE

15:59:49 AFTER YOU GUYS WERE GONE.

15:59:52 THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

15:59:54 >> I HAVE GOT TO GO BACK IN FRONTS OF THE MAGISTRATE

15:59:57 MARCH THE 18th AT 1:00.

16:00:01 HE'S GOING TO ASK ME -- WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY, HE'S

16:00:04 GOING TO ASK ME ABOUT HE WAS GOING TO REVERSE THE

16:00:10 GRANDFATHERED IN STUFF BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT IT WAS NOT

16:00:15 VACANT, I MEAN, IT WASN'T --

16:00:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OCCUPIED.

16:00:21 >> YEAH.

16:00:22 THE PROPERTY WASN'T RESERVED.

16:00:23 THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO CHECK BACK WITH ME ON IT IN.




16:00:27 IF I CAN GET IT JUST LIKE YOU SAID, IN-LAW SUITE, I WILL

16:00:32 GO WITH THAT.

16:00:32 BUT IF I CAN GET IT WHERE IT'S JUST GRANDFATHERED BACK

16:00:36 IN, THAT'S EVEN BETTER, I WOULD THINK.

16:00:38 THEN I DON'T HAVE TO REPORTS ONCE A YEAR IN CASE MY SON

16:00:41 MOVE OUT AND MY NEPHEW MOVES IN OR MY DAUGHTER, MY SON

16:00:45 PLAYOFFS OUT AND MY DAUGHTER MOVES IN.

16:00:47 KIDS ALWAYS COME BACK HOME SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW.

16:00:50 PLUS I GOT BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

16:00:54 GOT A LARGE FAMILY OF 12, HALF OF THEM HERE AND HALF OF

16:00:59 THEM IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY.

16:01:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE MR. COTTON CAN HELP US OUT.

16:01:03 >> AND I HAD MY NEPHEW IN ONE OF THE APARTMENTS AND I HAD

16:01:07 MY SON STAY WITH MY SISTER, YOU KNOW.

16:01:11 I NEVER HAD NO PROBLEM WHERE I HAD TO CHECK WITH ANYBODY

16:01:14 IN 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW.

16:01:17 I THINK I DID MY DUES FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AS MY 25

16:01:22 YEARS AS AN OFFICER.

16:01:23 COME ON, I'M RETIRED, YOU KNOW.

16:01:27 I HAVE NEVER BEEN BEFORE MAGISTRATE FOR ANYTHING.

16:01:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE GREAT MINDS CONFERRING OVER

16:01:33 HERE.

16:01:34 GIVE THEM A SECOND.

16:01:39 >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT.

16:01:40 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.




16:01:47 THE PROCESS TO ESTABLISH NONCONFORMING IS A FORMAL

16:01:53 DECISION THROUGH THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

16:01:55 WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT WHEN HE FIRST CAME INTO THE OFFICE,

16:01:58 WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH MR. FORD AND FIGURED THIS WOULD BE

16:02:00 A BETTER PROCESS TO GO THROUGH WHICH WAS GOING BEFORE

16:02:03 CITY COUNCIL ON APPEAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

16:02:05 ONE OF THE CRITERIA OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS BESIDES

16:02:08 THE TWO WE HAVE ADDRESSED ALREADY IS THAT A SPECIAL USE

16:02:11 PERMIT SHALL BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY BY STAFF AND SPECIAL

16:02:15 USE WILL BE REQUIRED.

16:02:16 COUNCIL COULD WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT AND SAY, WELL, WE'LL

16:02:23 STILL REVIEW IT ANNUALLY.

16:02:24 WE JUST WANT TO LET STAFF KNOW WHO YOUR RELATIVE IS

16:02:28 THAT'S LIVING IN THAT LOCATION AT THE TIME, IF FOR SOME

16:02:31 REASON A SISTER WOULD HAVE PASSED A QUAY AND ANOTHER

16:02:34 RELATIVE WERE TO MOVE IN, AT LEAST FOR THE CITY WE WOULD

16:02:36 KNOW WHO THE RELATIVE IS, AND WHO IS LIVING IN THAT

16:02:40 LOCATION.

16:02:40 AND AGAIN THAT WOULD BE ON A YEARLY BASIS.

16:02:42 >> AND SHE'S 80 YEARS OLD.

16:02:51 SO TO REPORT TO THE CITY --

16:02:58 >>> I HOPE SHE LIVES TO BE 100.

16:02:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY, WE HAVE GOT

16:03:03 TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PICTURE.

16:03:06 WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 232 HOUSES IN WEST TAMPA?




16:03:10 WHAT DO I DO WHEN THEY COME?

16:03:11 THEY ARE GOING TO COME.

16:03:12 THEY ARE GOING TO COME.

16:03:13 AND THEY ARE NOT LIKE YOU.

16:03:16 THEY HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT NOTHING.

16:03:19 THEY HAVE CARS BUT THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY, IN A YARD, NO

16:03:22 NOTHING.

16:03:23 IT LOOKS LIKE A MOTEL.

16:03:24 AND AT NIGHT IT IS A MOTEL.

16:03:25 YOU GO BY, AND SAY WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS?

16:03:41 I WANT TO HELP YOU.

16:03:43 BECAUSE MR. COTTON SAID ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST NOTIFY

16:03:45 WHO IS LIVING THERE AND THEY COME TAKE IT AGAIN.

16:03:48 IF IT'S A RELATIVE, GOUT IN A PROBLEM.

16:03:52 AND LISTEN --

16:03:54 >> I AIN'T HAD TO REPORT THAT.

16:03:56 NO VIOLATION WHALEY BEEN WORKING.

16:03:59 I DON'T HAVE -- I MEAN, I REPORT TO MY DAD, BUT EVERY

16:04:04 YEAR, OKAY --

16:04:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY COME IN AND THEY TACK A PICTURE.

16:04:10 THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

16:04:11 I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU.

16:04:12 I WANT TO HELP YOU I CAN'T DO IT ALL THE WAY BECAUSE I

16:04:15 KNOW WHAT'S COMING.

16:04:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.




16:04:16 FULLY OTHER QUESTIONS?

16:04:17 NO?

16:04:18 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

16:04:23 NO?

16:04:24 >> SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT.

16:04:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM

16:04:30 COUNCILMAN -- SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

16:04:34 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL ON ITEM NUMBER 76?

16:04:37 YOU HAVE THE SPECIAL USE MOTION.

16:04:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD SUPPORT A SPECIAL USE BASED

16:04:45 ON THE CITY'S CRITERIA.

16:04:46 AND THEY ARE GOING TO INSPECT YOU ONE DAY ONCE A YEAR, OR

16:04:50 WHAT MR. COTTON SAID, JUST GET IT WHERE AS LONG AS HE HAS

16:04:55 A RELATIVE COMING IN, AS LONG AS IT'S A RELATIVE. I WANT

16:04:57 TO STAY WITH THE LAW.

16:04:58 BUT THE OTHERS, 232, WELL, I CAN'T HELP YOU, I'M SORRY.

16:05:02 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:05:06 I'M 79 AND I CAN'T.

16:05:08 >> MY SISTER IS GOING TO GET KICKED OUT OF HER PLACE.

16:05:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CLOSED THE HEARING.

16:05:17 ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

16:05:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MAKE A SHOT AT IT.

16:05:22 MR. COTTON -- SIR, YOU CAN ALLEVIATE THE PODIUM THERE.

16:05:29 JUST A TECHNICAL CLARIFICATION.

16:05:30 IT'S NOT FACT.




16:05:32 YOU SAID WITH THE MOTION I CAN WAIVE -- I AM NOT GOING TO

16:05:40 WAIVE THE ANNUAL REQUIREMENT BUT I COULD WAIVE WHAT?

16:05:44 >>ERIC COTTON: ONE OF THE CRITERIAS, SHALL BE REVIEWED

16:05:47 ANNUALLY BY STAFF AND IF CONDITIONS OR OCCUPANTS CHANGE

16:05:49 THEN A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED.

16:05:54 YOU CAN PHRASE THE MOTION IF SO INCLINED TO REQUIRE THE

16:05:56 ANNUAL INSPECTION BUT WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT OF A NEW

16:06:01 APPLICATION IF THE RELATIVE WERE TO CHANGE.

16:06:03 AS LONG AS A FAMILY MEMBER, IF WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF THAT,

16:06:07 WE COULD WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT.

16:06:18 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I WANT TO VERIFY, TOO. THERE ARE

16:06:18 TWO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED. THE ONE THAT MR. COTTON

16:06:20 JUST DESCRIBED WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE TWO THAT ARE

16:06:22 ALREADY REQUESTED IN THE PETITION FOR REVIEW.

16:06:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.

16:06:27 SOMEBODY REMIND ME WHICH NUMBER THIS IS.

16:06:30 76.

16:06:33 OKAY.

16:06:36 I WILL MOVE -- I'M SORRY?

16:06:44 IN REGARD TO ITEM FILE E 2019-8 CHAPTER 27, IN REGARD TO

16:06:51 THE REVIEW PETITION FOR CHARLES R. FORD, SU-1-19-52,

16:06:59 PROPERTY AT 815 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE

16:07:03 THIS PETITION AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

16:07:08 I BELIEVE THE PETITIONER HAS MET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF BY

16:07:11 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE CONDITIONS AS




16:07:14 SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE

16:07:15 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE, SPECIFICALLY THAT HE'S

16:07:20 BEEN LIVING THERE ON THIS SORT OF FAMILY COMPOUND WITH

16:07:25 EXTENDED FAMILY, CHILDREN, SISTERS, ET CETERA, NEPHEWS,

16:07:32 FOR 30 YEARS, AND THERE'S NO ADVERSE CONDITIONS IN REGARD

16:07:40 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

16:07:43 WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

16:07:47 AND I BELIEVE IT'S REASONABLE.

16:07:48 I WOULD GRANT THE TWO WAIVERS REQUESTED.

16:07:52 IN ADDITION, WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A SPECIAL CONDITION THAT

16:07:58 HE WOULD HAVE TO GET REINSPECTED ONCE A YEAR.

16:08:04 HOWEVER, AS LONG AS IT'S ONLY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE

16:08:07 RESIDING ON THE PROPERTY WITH HIM, THAT THE SPECIAL USE

16:08:14 PERMIT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE GRANTED.

16:08:17 PERIOD.

16:08:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

16:08:20 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

16:08:22 ANY DISCUSSION?

16:08:24 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:08:26 ANY OPPOSED?

16:08:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NAY.

16:08:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED --

16:08:37 >>> CITRO AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.

16:08:38 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO AND MIRANDA VOTING NO AND

16:08:41 VIERA BEING ABSENT.




16:08:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:08:47 ITEM NUMBER 77 NEEDS TO BE RESCHEDULED.

16:08:50 >> MOVE TO RESCHEDULE 77 FOR APRIL 2nd, 2020 AT

16:08:56 10:30 A.M.

16:08:57 >> SECOND.

16:08:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

16:08:59 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:09:00 ALL RIGHT.

16:09:01 LAST ITEM IS NUMBER 90.

16:09:03 MS. ZELMAN.

16:09:19 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

16:09:21 WITH A LAST NAME LIKE MINE I AM USED TO GOING LAST.

16:09:25 I WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE OVERHEAD.

16:09:30 THE MOTION WAS ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

16:09:33 AND I THINK THE PRIMARY POINT I WANTED TO MAKE -- LET ME

16:09:38 BACK UP.

16:09:39 I DID SUBMIT A POWER POINT, AND I WILL ADMIT THE POWER

16:09:43 POINT WAS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY STOLEN FROM, AND SHE HAS

16:09:51 A VERY LENGTHY POWER POINT ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

16:09:57 I REDUCED IT TO 15 SLIDES.

16:09:59 I THINK IT'S STILL WAY TOO DETAILED.

16:10:01 I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TOCK

16:10:03 BUT I WANT TO FIRST GIVE SOME INTRODUCTORY REMARKS THAT

16:10:06 MAY ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND OBVIATE THE NEED

16:10:09 FOR THE POWER POINT.




16:10:10 BASICALLY, THE THING TO KNOW ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES,

16:10:13 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY

16:10:16 ARE, THEY REALLY ARE A PRODUCT OF THE 2017 FEDERAL TAX

16:10:22 CUTS AND JOBS ACT, AND THE ACT CREATED A VEHICLE BY WHICH

16:10:29 REAL ESTATE INVESTORS TO DEFER BAYING CAPITOL GAINS ON

16:10:33 THE SALE OF STOCKS AND ASSETS FROM REAL PROPERTY BY

16:10:36 TAKING THE MONEY THAT THEY MAKE FROM THE SALE AND

16:10:38 REINVESTING IT OR INVESTING IT IN A CERTIFIED OPPORTUNITY

16:10:42 ZONE FUND.

16:10:44 AND THE CONCEPT WAS THAT BY PROVIDING REAL ESTATE

16:10:48 INVESTORS WITH LARGE HOLDINGS WITH AN INCENTIVE TO INVEST

16:10:52 IN AREAS THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED AS OPPORTUNITY ZONES,

16:10:57 IT WOULD SPUR REDEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND

16:11:01 OTHERWISE CHALLENGED AREAS.

16:11:04 SO AFTER IT WAS PASSED IN 2018, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

16:11:10 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WERE INVOLVED WITH IDENTIFYING

16:11:13 CENSUS TRACKS WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION THAT THEY

16:11:18 REQUESTED BE INCLUDED.

16:11:19 THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES MAP.

16:11:21 AND AT THE TIME THE CITY OF TAMPA SUBMITTED A NUMBER OF

16:11:24 CENSUS TRACKS TO THE STATE.

16:11:27 THE STATE REVIEWED THEM.

16:11:28 THE STATE COULD NOT -- I THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE STATE

16:11:33 WIDE OVER A THOUSAND TRACKS IDENTIFIED, ULTIMATELY THE

16:11:39 STATE OF FLORIDA WAS LIMITED TO 427 CENSUS TRACKS STATE




16:11:44 WIDE THAT WERE DESIGNATED AS QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY ZONES

16:11:48 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THERE ARE 22.

16:11:51 AND AGAIN THIS OVERHEAD SHOWS YOU THE CENSUS TRACKS IN

16:11:56 THE CITY.

16:11:57 AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THEM BUT NOT ALL ARE ALSO

16:12:02 WITH NCRAs, DOWNTOWN, YBOR, SOME OF WEST TAMPA, SOME

16:12:09 NEAR THE UNIVERSITY AREA, BUT NOT QUITE, ALL THE WAY UP

16:12:13 THERE.

16:12:15 IN ANY EVENT, THAT WAS REALLY THE LIMIT OF THE CITY'S

16:12:20 INVOLVEMENT, WAS IDENTIFYING THOSE TRACTS THAT THEY

16:12:24 THOUGHT WOULD QUALIFY.

16:12:25 AFTER THAT, OPPORTUNITY ZONES REALLY BECOME, AGAIN, A

16:12:31 PACKED VEHICLE FOR PRIVATE INVESTORS.

16:12:36 INVESTORS IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES, FUND HAVE TO --

16:12:42 OPPORTUNITY ZONES FUNDS IS SET UP WITH THE INVESTMENTS

16:12:44 MADE BY THE INVESTORS.

16:12:47 THE FUND MUST INVEST 90% OF ITS FUNDS WITHIN A QUALIFIED

16:12:52 OPPORTUNITY ZONE, WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME, TO BE

16:12:55 ELIGIBLE FOR THE CAPITAL GAIN TAX DEVELOPMENTS.

16:13:00 THE LIMITS AS TO WHAT THEY CAN INVEST FROM, CERTAIN TYPES

16:13:02 OF BUSINESSES AND REAL PROPERTY WITHIN THAT OPPORTUNITY

16:13:05 ZONE.

16:13:05 AND WITH REGARD TO COUNCIL'S QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER ANY

16:13:10 OPPORTUNITY ZONES FUNDS HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE CITY OF

16:13:12 TAMPA, WHAT I LEARNED, WHEN I DID THIS RESEARCH, WAS THAT




16:13:17 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION

16:13:20 BECAUSE AGAIN THESE ARE PRIVATE REAL ESTATE INVESTORS WHO

16:13:24 DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC THE FACT THAT THEY

16:13:29 MADE THESE TYPES OF INVESTMENTS, AND ALSO AS SOME OF YOU

16:13:34 MAY BE AWARE, OPPORTUNITY ZONES NATIONWIDE HAVE RECEIVED

16:13:39 SOME BAD PRESS WITH THE REPORT ABOUT SOMEONE IN SOUTH

16:13:43 FLORIDA THAT GOT A YACHT BASIN IDENTIFIED, QUALIFIED AS

16:13:47 AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

16:13:48 SO REALLY THE INVESTORS WHO HAVE INVESTED FROM THESE

16:13:53 FUNDS DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

16:13:58 SO WE ARE NOT AWARE -- AND I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION

16:14:02 THAT THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED, HAVE THESE BEEN A SUCCESS?

16:14:05 WELL, I DID SPEAK WITH SOMEONE WHO IS VERY INVOLVED WITH

16:14:09 OPPORTUNITY ZONES NATIONWIDE, AND IN SOME PARTS OF THE

16:14:14 COUNTRY WHERE A CITY OR TOWN WAS HAVING A PARTICULARLY

16:14:20 HARD TIME GETTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT

16:14:23 TO HAPPEN, THEY HAD PROGRAMS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO

16:14:29 INVEST IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES, IN ERIE, PENNSYLVANIA, THERE

16:14:35 WAS A JOINT EFFORT BY AN INSURANCE COMPANY IN THE TOWN

16:14:37 AND THEY REALLY PUSHED IT.

16:14:41 SO THERE'S BEEN LIMITED SUCCESS NATIONWIDE. IN TAMPA,

16:14:45 IT'S REALLY HARD TO MEASURE BECAUSE OF COURSE WE ARE IN A

16:14:48 BOOMING ECONOMY RIGHT NOW.

16:14:50 WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

16:14:52 IT'S HARD TO SAY WHETHER THE ABILITY TO GET THESE CAPITAL




16:14:56 GAINS TAX DEFERMENTS, WHETHER OR NOT WE REALLY DON'T

16:15:02 KNOW.

16:15:02 YOU COULD LOOK AT THE MAP AND SEE WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY

16:15:06 ZONES ARE.

16:15:09 FOR INSTANCE, WE KNOW THAT IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA, THERE'S A

16:15:12 LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

16:15:14 THERE'S A NUMBER OF CENSUS TRACTS IN DOWNTOWN THAT ARE

16:15:18 OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

16:15:20 DID THE DEVELOPMENT PREDATE THE CREATION OF THESE

16:15:22 OPPORTUNITY ZONES?

16:15:23 IN SOME CASES YES, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO MATCH UP

16:15:26 WHETHER THEY HAVE ACTUALLY SPURRED ANYTHING.

16:15:30 AND THEN I THINK THE FINAL QUESTION I KNOW SOMEONE WAS

16:15:34 HERE AT ONE OF OUR CRA MEETINGS ASKING THAT SOME NEW

16:15:39 TRACTS BE DESIGNATED AS OPPORTUNITIES ZONES.

16:15:42 THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ACT OF CONGRESS.

16:15:45 IT WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE THE FEDERAL HOUSE AND SENATE TO

16:15:50 AGREE TO AMEND THE ACTION, REOPEN THE PROCESS BY WHICH

16:15:56 OPPORTUNITY -- THE ORIGINAL OPPORTUNITY ZONES CENSUS

16:16:00 TRACT MAP WAS CREATED.

16:16:02 THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN ADVISED.

16:16:04 THE ONLY OTHER POSSIBLE OPTION IS WHAT WOULD BE THE U.S.

16:16:08 TREASURY DEPARTMENT DOING IT BY RULE, BUT MY

16:16:11 UNDERSTANDING IS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY THE

16:16:13 CONGRESS.




16:16:15 EITHER WAY, IT WOULD BE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND

16:16:17 CERTAINLY NOT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

16:16:19 SO AGAIN I THINK THAT THROUGH THE POWER POINT, WHICH I

16:16:22 DID PROVIDE YOU WITH IN ADVANCE, IT REALLY GOES INTO A

16:16:25 LOT OF DETAIL THAT FRANKLY IS MORE INTEREST OF PRIVATE

16:16:31 REAL ESTATE INVESTORS AND NOT TO THE COUNCIL.

16:16:33 SO TO SAVE TIME I AM HAPPY TO SKIP THAT UNLESS YOU WANT

16:16:38 TO GO THROUGH IT AND I AM HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

16:16:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

16:16:43 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

16:16:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES

16:16:47 TRANSFERABLE?

16:16:50 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: TRANSFERABLE?

16:16:52 NO.

16:16:52 AGAIN, THE MAP WAS PUT IN PLACE BY THE U.S. TREASURY

16:16:58 DEPARTMENT IN 2018.

16:16:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I SAY THAT, BECAUSE THERE

16:17:05 HAVE BEEN SOME NEWS ARTICLES SOMETIME IN THE PAST THAT

16:17:07 SOME WERE TRANSFERRED FROM THE AREA THE VICINITY OF

16:17:14 ARMENIA AND HILLSBOROUGH BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HERE OF ANY

16:17:18 OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

16:17:20 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I BELIEVE I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING

16:17:21 TO.

16:17:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW?

16:17:24 BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.




16:17:26 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: BACK FROM 2018, AFTER THE ACT WAS

16:17:28 PASSED, AGAIN, THE CITY OF TAMPA SENT THE FLORIDA DEO ALL

16:17:35 THE TRACTS THAT IT THOUGHT WOULD QUALIFY.

16:17:40 THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN COOPERATION WITH DEO, THAT

16:17:44 CREATED A MAP FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA.

16:17:48 THERE WERE SOME TRACTS IN TAMPA THAT I THINK WHAT

16:17:54 HAPPENED WAS MAYOR BUCKHORN THEN CONTACTED THE STATE OR

16:17:59 SOMEONE CONTACTED THE STATE AND SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU

16:18:02 DIDN'T PUT THIS ONE ON BUT YOU PUT THESE ON, AND THIS

16:18:05 ONE, WE HAVE IS MORE ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED THAN THAT

16:18:09 ONE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

16:18:10 THEY AGREED TO REMOVE SOME AND PUT ANOTHER ONE ON OR

16:18:14 ANOTHER TWO ON.

16:18:15 AND THAT HAPPENED IN 2018 AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE MAP HAD

16:18:18 BECOME FINAL.

16:18:19 ONCE THE MAP BECAME FINAL, BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IT

16:18:22 CAN'T BE CHANGED.

16:18:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

16:18:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:18:30 ANYBODY ELSE?

16:18:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

16:18:35 VERY NICE.

16:18:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.

16:18:38 LET'S GO TO NEW BUSINESS.

16:18:39 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.




16:18:44 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

16:18:46 CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT PARKING ENFORCEMENT.

16:18:50 AND AGAIN POLICE OFFICERS, AND THERE'S A BURDEN ON POLICE

16:18:57 OFFICERS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH PARKING ENFORCEMENT THAT

16:18:59 GOES ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

16:19:00 IN FACT WE JUST DID AN EVENT AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE IN HYDE

16:19:06 PARK WHERE WE HAD ABOUT 20 POLICE OFFICERS THERE AND WE

16:19:09 TALKED ABOUT IT.

16:19:09 BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE NEIGHBORS WHO WANT TO GET

16:19:13 PEOPLE TO STOP PARKING ILLEGALLY IN FRONT OF THEIR YARDS.

16:19:16 AND SO WITH THE TO AND FRO, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT

16:19:22 STAFF REPORT ON THE POSSIBILITY OF PROVIDING A CITY-WIDE

16:19:24 PARKING ENFORCEMENT DIVISION THAT WOULD BE SELF-FUNDING

16:19:27 AND REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THE POLICE FORCE.

16:19:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

16:19:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

16:19:32 DO WE HAVE A DATE?

16:19:35 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

16:19:35 SORRY.

16:19:36 CAN YOU GUYS LA AT A DATE?

16:19:38 I WAS REMINDED ON THIS ONE OF THE THING -- WHENEVER WE

16:19:43 CAN GET IT ON.

16:19:46 AT LEAST A MONTH OUT, COUPLE MONTHS OUT.

16:19:51 MARCH 5th?

16:19:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.




16:19:56 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:19:57 ANYTHING ELSE?

16:19:59 >>BILL CARLSON: AT LUNCH, I THINK YOU ALL WENT TO THE

16:20:01 FAIR.

16:20:01 I WENT TO THE MEETING WHERE WE WERE THANKED FOR DOING THE

16:20:11 ERA MEETING AND RAN INTO BETTY CASTOR WHO ASKED I DO A

16:20:15 MOTION.

16:20:16 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT BETTY CASTOR APPEAR

16:20:19 BEFORE COUNCIL ON THURSDAY, MARCH 12 FOR TEN MINUTES TO

16:20:24 PRESENT REGARDING THE NEED FOR IMPACT FEES FOR SCHOOLS.

16:20:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND STATE YOUR MOTION AGAIN.

16:20:41 >>BILL CARLSON: ON THURSDAY, MARCH 12 FOR TEN MINUTES

16:20:43 REGARDING THE IMPACT FEE FOR SCHOOLS.

16:20:48 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DID SHE MEAN AN INCREASE?

16:20:50 BECAUSE THERE ARE SCHOOL IMPACT FEES.

16:20:53 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED THING I THINK TOO

16:20:55 COMPLICATED FOR A MOTION.

16:20:56 AND SHE KNOWS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE DIRECT INFLUENCE OVER

16:20:59 IT BUT SHE WANTS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AND ALSO

16:21:01 MAYBE THROUGH THE TV AND INFLUENCE THE -- OR EDUCATE THE

16:21:06 PUBLIC.

16:21:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?

16:21:12 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

16:21:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

16:21:16 PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO KATHY BECK WHO WILL BE RETIRING




16:21:19 SOMETIME IN MARCH, AND I WILL SET THE DATE WITH THAT

16:21:22 RETIREMENT.

16:21:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

16:21:27 CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

16:21:28 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

16:21:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

16:21:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

16:21:33 MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, MRS. CHELSEA JOHNSON WHO WAS MY

16:21:39 APPOINTEES TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BUDGET, FINANCE

16:21:41 COMMITTEE, CAN NO LONGER HOLD THAT POSITION.

16:21:44 AND I MOVE TO APPOINT MR. JEFFREY McCUPSKI TO THAT

16:21:49 POSITION.

16:21:49 >> SECOND.

16:21:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY MR. DINGFELDER.

16:21:54 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:21:54 ALL RIGHT.

16:21:55 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

16:21:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST THANK MS. CHELSEA JOHNSON, AND I AM

16:22:03 SAD TO SEE HER NOT BEING ON THIS, BUT I AM LOOKING

16:22:06 FORWARD TO JEFFREY.

16:22:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:22:09 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

16:22:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

16:22:14 GENTLEMEN, FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW, WE HAVE BEEN

16:22:17 HAVING A LITTLE UPROAR IN MY DISTRICT ESPECIALLY THE




16:22:21 MIDDLE CORE OF EAST TAMPA AS TO THE PARKS, PLAYGROUND, IN

16:22:28 THE AL BARNES PARK.

16:22:31 AS DISTRICT 5 COUNCILMAN IT BREAKS MIGHT BE HEART TO SEE

16:22:35 MY COMMUNITY INFIGHTING ABOUT THAT.

16:22:38 AND I AM JUST TIRED OF HEARING, SEEING INFIGHTING.

16:22:44 WITH NO REAL DIRECTION RIGHT NOW, AND NO REAL NUMBERS.

16:22:52 I HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF MOTIONS.

16:22:54 I WANT TO ASK FOR A REPORT ON THE PARKS AND I THINK IT

16:23:00 WILL GIVE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COST.

16:23:04 WHAT IS THE ACTUAL COST?

16:23:06 BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T NOTICE WHAT THE ACTUAL COST IS.

16:23:09 FOR FAIROAKS.

16:23:11 WE HAVE GOT NUMBERS THROWN OUT BUT IN A ACTUAL COSTS OF

16:23:13 ANYTHING.

16:23:14 JUST NUMBERS.

16:23:15 AND I THINK THAT'S WRONG.

16:23:16 I THINK WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHAT SHOULD BE, WHAT

16:23:19 SHOULDN'T BE.

16:23:20 SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW AND MAKE SURE THAT OTHER PEOPLE FOR

16:23:24 THE AL BARNES SITUATION KNOW WE ARE STILL COMMITTED TO

16:23:29 WHAT THEY ASKED FOR IN ELECTION TIME.

16:23:31 OVER THE PAST WEEK, I DROVE AROUND THE PARKS WITH THE

16:23:36 CHIEF OF STAFF, AL BARNES, CULTURAL ARTS CENTER, BEEN

16:23:42 MEETING WITH DONORS.

16:23:43 I MAY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SOME FUNDING SOME HELP OUT




16:23:47 WITH MAYBE BOTH THE PARKS.

16:23:48 BUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

16:23:51 THE FIRST MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, I WOULD LIKE TO

16:23:54 MAKE A MOTION THAT CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND PARKS AND

16:23:55 RECREATION DEPARTMENT BEGIN LOOKING INTO A DESIGN BUILD

16:23:59 CONTRACT FOR AL BARNES PARK WHICH ALREADY HAS ALLOCATED

16:24:02 RESOURCES, DESIGN BUILD IS A METHOD OF PROJECT DELIVERY

16:24:05 IN WHICH ONE ENTITY DESIGN BUILD TEAM WORKS ON A SINGLE

16:24:09 CONTRACT WITH A PROJECT OWNER TO PROVIDE DESIGN.

16:24:13 ONE ENTITY, ONE CONTRACT, ONE UNIFIED FLOW OF WORK FOR

16:24:17 INITIAL CONCEPT THROUGH COMPLETION, DESIGN BUILD IS

16:24:20 ACTUALLY MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO JUDICIAL PROJECT DELIVERY

16:24:23 FROM MANY SITUATIONS.

16:24:24 THIS IS A PROJECT BUDGET IS IDENTIFIED EARLY IN THE

16:24:28 PROCESS AND CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THROUGH A HIGHLY

16:24:31 COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

16:24:34 ADVANTAGES OF THAT BUILD TEAMWORK, SINGLE RESPONSIBILITY,

16:24:38 COMMUNICATION, ELIMINATES ADVERSARIAL CONDITIONS, NOT

16:24:41 EXCEEDED TO BUILDING TYPES, FASTER PROJECT DELIVERY, IN

16:24:45 ADDITION, THE PROJECT CAN SAVE ANYWHERE FROM 6 BETTERS TO

16:24:48 10% WHEN USING A DESIGN BUILD PROCESS IN JUDICIAL

16:24:52 CONSTRUCTION.

16:24:55 THAT'S MY FIRST MOTION.

16:24:56 >> SECOND.

16:24:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.




16:24:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

16:25:00 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:25:02 >> I WANT TO DO THE SAME THING FOR FAIROAKS.

16:25:05 I WON'T READ ALL THE ISSUES ABOUT DESIGN BUILD BUT I MAKE

16:25:08 A MOTION FOR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND PARKS AND

16:25:10 RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO BEGIN LOOKING INTO DESIGN BUILD

16:25:13 CONTRACT FOR FAIROAKS PARK.

16:25:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

16:25:17 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:25:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO THESE HAVE A RETURN DATE?

16:25:22 >> EFFECTIVE DATE 3-19-20.

16:25:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 19th.

16:25:28 ANYTHING ELSE SIR?

16:25:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

16:25:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.

16:25:34 TWO SMALL ITEMS.

16:25:37 A BUILDER CAME UP TO ME THE OTHER DAY AND SAID THAT THAT

16:25:45 HE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT IN

16:25:47 ORDER TO DO THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT ON SMALLER LOTS.

16:25:50 AND I SAID, WELL, IT'S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE I DON'T THINK

16:25:53 WE HAVE ANYTHING SMALLER THAN THE RS-50 AND HE WAS

16:25:57 TALKING ABOUT LIKE A 35-FOOT LOT OR THAT SORT OF THING.

16:26:00 I SAID, I DO KNOW THAT IN WEST TAMPA, IN CERTAIN

16:26:04 CONDITIONS OF THE OVERLAY ZONE FOR LOTS THAT WERE PLATTED

16:26:09 100 YEARS AGO WE CAN STILL DO ALLOW IT TO A CERTAIN




16:26:13 EXTENT UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

16:26:14 BUT THAT ONLY APPLIES TO I THINK WEST TAMPA.

16:26:19 SO WITH THAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS IN THE NAME OF

16:26:22 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF, PLANNING STAFF

16:26:28 AND LEGAL TO COME BACK TO US IN 90 DAYS WITH SOME

16:26:33 THOUGHTS ON THE POSSIBILITY OF WHERE, COULD WE HAVE

16:26:40 SMALLER ZONING LOTS?

16:26:42 AND IF IT WASN'T -- AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT

16:26:45 CITY-WIDE, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME DISTRICTS, SOME

16:26:48 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD LIKE THAT, OR THAT ALREADY HAVE

16:26:51 THAT PATTERN, YOU KNOW, GOING AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND

16:26:54 THAT WOULD APPRECIATE YOU HAVE A SMALLER LOT, YOU HAVE A

16:26:59 SMALLER HOUSE, YOU HAVE A SMALLER PRICE, AND MAYBE

16:27:03 THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD RECEIVE THAT

16:27:05 FAVORABLY.

16:27:06 SO ANYWAY, THAT'S A 90-DAY REQUEST FOR STAFF TO TAKE A

16:27:10 LOOK AT THAT ISSUE ON THE POSSIBILITY OF SMALLER LOTS.

16:27:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

16:27:15 >> I SECOND IT.

16:27:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR DISCUSSION I WILL SECOND IT

16:27:20 BECAUSE I AM NOT INVOLVED IN THAT BUT I CAN ONLY THINK

16:27:22 THAT YOU CANNOT JUST SAY RIGHT NOW THOSE LOTS ARE IN WEST

16:27:25 TAMPA, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE A HUNDRED YEARS.

16:27:28 BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO CUT THE CITY TO SOME DEGREE TO

16:27:31 ONLY THOSE LOTS BEING IN A CERTAIN AREA OF TOWN, I DON'T




16:27:34 NOT IF THAT'S CONSTITUTIONAL.

16:27:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT BAND-AIDING IT.

16:27:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE.

16:27:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

16:27:43 SOMEBODY HAS AN ACRE OF LAND THAT PUT TOGETHER LET'S SAY

16:27:47 A MILE FROM HERE IN SOME DIRECTION, AND THEY GO, WELL, MY

16:27:50 ONLY CHOICES ARE TEN HOUSES WITH AN RS-50 OR COME IN WITH

16:27:56 A PD, AND THE PD IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND VERY TIME

16:28:00 CONSUMING.

16:28:00 BUT IF WE HAD ANOTHER CATEGORY LIKE AN RS 30, THEN MAYBE

16:28:03 THEY COULD BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE AND PUT IN SMALLER

16:28:06 HOUSES.

16:28:07 WHAT ARE THOSE METAL ONES CALLED, THE CONTAINER HOUSE?

16:28:11 THAT SORT OF THING.

16:28:12 BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE.

16:28:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE THE CONTAINERS, FROM WHAT I

16:28:21 HAVE SEEN AND THE PRAISE.

16:28:22 BUT THE PROBLEM WITH MYSELF, I CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING

16:28:24 THAT'S NOT CITY-WIDE.

16:28:26 BECAUSE THEN YOU ARE GOING TO JUMBLE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

16:28:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IF THEY WANT IT?

16:28:33 WELL, LET'S JUST SEE WHAT STAFF COMES BACK AND SAYS.

16:28:36 THAT'S ALL I AM LOOKING FOR TODAY, CHARLIE.

16:28:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.

16:28:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.




16:28:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SUPPORT IT TODAY.

16:28:44 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE FUTURE.

16:28:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES GAVE A SECOND.

16:28:48 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:28:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS NOTICED.

16:28:53 WHEN I DRIVE AROUND TOWN MY EYE DRAWS TO THESE SMALL

16:28:57 DIGITAL SIGNS, NOT THE BILLBOARDS, THE SMALL SIGNS ON

16:29:00 SMALL BUSINESSES.

16:29:01 AND I AM NOT SAYING WHETHER OR NOT THOSE SIGNS ARE LEGAL

16:29:03 OR NOT BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHAT I SEE IS THEY SCROLL, YOU

16:29:07 KNOW, THEY ROLL THROUGH AND THEY SCROLL AND THEY THRASH

16:29:10 AND THAT SORT OF THING.

16:29:11 ALL OF THAT IS CONTRARY TO THE ORDINANCE.

16:29:15 MS. ZELMAN HELPED ME ON CHAPTER 27-289 .4 SPECIFICALLY

16:29:20 SAYS THAT THE DWELL TIME, THE FROZEN TIME HAS TO BE AT

16:29:24 LEAST 15 SECONDS. YOU CAN'T HAVE FLASHING.

16:29:27 YOU CAN'T HAVE MOVEMENT.

16:29:28 AND THE BRIGHTNESS HAS TO BE CONTROLLED BY .3 FOOT

16:29:34 CANDLES.

16:29:35 WHATEVER A FOOT CANDLE IS.

16:29:37 MY QUESTION TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND I WOULD LIKE A

16:29:39 REPORT BACK IN SIXTY DAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IF

16:29:42 ANY ENFORCEMENT THEY HAVE DONE UNDER CHAPTER 27-289.4

16:29:47 OVER THE LAST, LET'S SAY, TWO YEARS, AND IF THEY HAVE ANY

16:29:51 WAY OF RECORDING THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LIST OF WHAT




16:29:56 SORT OF ENFORCEMENT THEY HAVE DONE AND WHAT THE RESULT

16:29:58 WAS.

16:30:00 I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY ARE VERY BUSY PEOPLE, AND THAT

16:30:02 THIS IS A LOW OPERATOR.

16:30:04 BUT FRANKLY, IF WE HAVE THE LAW ON THE BOOKS, I THINK WE

16:30:07 SHOULD FOLLOW UP.

16:30:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH YOU.

16:30:10 I SECOND THE MOTION BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU.

16:30:12 AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE BRIGHTNESS DURING THE DAY.

16:30:14 IT'S GOT TO BE AT NIGHT.

16:30:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

16:30:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

16:30:19 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:30:20 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

16:30:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU.

16:30:22 >>> MINE IS JUST AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE PASSING OF A

16:30:26 GENTLEMAN, JOE PAPARGERONI, 93 YEARS OLD, WORLD WAR II

16:30:35 VETERAN, VERY INVOLVED IN THE ITALIAN CLUB.

16:30:38 HE AND HIS BROTHER, I BELIEVE HIS FATHER AND HE WERE

16:30:40 MEMBERS FROM THE 1930s, 1920s.

16:30:44 HE CLAIMED TO BE THE FIRST FAMILY TO LIVE IN SEMINOLE

16:30:48 HEIGHTS BACK IN THE 1930s.

16:30:50 I HAVE KNOWN HIM SINCE PROBABLY THE DAY I WAS BORN IF NOT

16:30:53 THE DAY AFTER.

16:30:55 HE AND HIS WIFE WERE VISITORS.




16:30:58 HE NEVER HAD CHILDREN BUT HE HAD ABOUT 20 GOD-CHILDREN,

16:31:03 GOD-SONS AND GOD-DAUGHTERS, A WONDERFUL MAN, VERY

16:31:07 INVOLVED IN THE ITALIAN CLUB CEMETERY.

16:31:10 AS AN ARCHITECT HE WORKED FOR THE McEWEN GROUP, AND HE

16:31:13 DESIGNED THE MAUSOLEUM IN THE ITALIAN CLUB CEMETERY.

16:31:18 HE'S GOING TO BE BURIED IN A MAUSOLEUM CRYPT THAT HE

16:31:22 DESIGNED, WHICH IS NEAR ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT WAS VERY

16:31:25 WELL KNOWN, VICTOR DIMAIO, SR., NOT THE SON.

16:31:30 AND THAT WAS IT.

16:31:31 IT'S A HUGE LOSS.

16:31:33 A MAN WHO WILL TELL YOU WILL HISTORY.

16:31:35 HE WOULD SAY YOUR NAME AND HE WOULD SAY, OH, YOUR FAMILY

16:31:38 IS THIS OR YOUR FATHER WAS SO-AND-SO.

16:31:40 I REMEMBER LIVING, BREATHING HISTORY.

16:31:43 HE TOLD ME WHAT YBOR CITY WAS LIKE IN THE 1930s, RIDING

16:31:46 THE STREETCAR, HOW THEY WOULD MAKE CUBAN SANDWICHES IN

16:31:49 THE WINDOWS, AND THEY WOULD SLICE THE PICKLES LONG WAYS

16:31:53 SO YOU WOULD GET A PICKLE IN EVERY BITE.

16:31:56 BUT HE TAUGHT ME A LOT.

16:31:58 IF YOU TALKED TO HIM, IF ANY OF YOU MET HIM, YOU WOULD

16:32:01 LEARN THINGS THAT YOU COULD NEVER READ IN ANY BOOK

16:32:04 BECAUSE HE WITNESSED THEM.

16:32:05 SO JUST WANTS TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES.

16:32:10 A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

16:32:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED MR. CHAIRMAN.




16:32:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

16:32:17 ALL IN FAVOR?

16:32:18 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK, SIR?

16:32:20 NO?

16:32:20 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

16:32:24 (MEETING ADJOURNED)

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