Tampa City Council
Thursday, March 5, 2020
9:00 a.m.
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09:04:59 [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:05:03 >>LUIS VIERA: CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.
09:05:04 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:05:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:05:10 WE HAVE A LEGEND TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.
09:05:13 COLLEGE HILL CHURCH OF CHRIST APPOINTED IN 1997,
09:05:17 CREDITS GOD'S GUIDANCE AND WIFE'S DEDICATION OF HIS
09:05:20 HOME, CHILDREN AND SUCCESS OF HIS FAMILY.
09:05:23 SURRENDERED HIS LIFE TO CHRIST AT THE AGE OF 25 AND
09:05:28 BUILD BY THE HELP OF THE LORD AS CHRISTIAN.
09:05:30 UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP, HIS CHURCH HAS CONTINUED TO
09:05:31 FLOURISH.
09:05:33 THEY ARE INVOLVED IN SEVERAL MINISTRIES, SOCIAL
09:05:36 SERVICES MINISTRIES SUCH AS FOSTER CARE AND ADOPTIONS.
09:05:41 HE HAS BEEN MARRIED TO POLICE DELORES DAVIS FOR 53
09:05:45 YEARS AND FOUR DAUGHTERS, SIX GRANDCHILDREN AND FOUR
09:05:47 GREAT GRANDCHILDREN AND MY FRIEND FOR A LONG, LONG
09:05:48 TIME.
09:05:58 PASTOR DAVIS, WILL YOU COME FORWARD, SIR.
09:06:00 >> EVERYBODY STAND, PLEASE.
09:06:04 ETERNAL GOD OUR SAVIOR, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME AND
09:06:05 THIS HOUR.
09:06:09 AND I DO WANT TO THANK THE CITY AND BROTHER GUDES FOR
09:06:11 THIS INVOCATION AND PRAYER.
09:06:16 WE PRAY NOW, OH, GOD, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DO
09:06:21 THAT WHICH IS GOOD FOR THIS COMMUNITY, GOOD, OH GOD,
09:06:25 FOR THE CITIZENRY AND WE PRAY, GOD, THAT THEY WILL
09:06:30 BLESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND TOGETHER.
09:06:33 AND THEN BLESS THEIR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE
09:06:36 ADMINISTRATION, THE MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL AND
09:06:41 INVOLVE, OH GOD, WITH THE CITIZENRY AND THE
09:06:42 ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.
09:06:45 WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON.
09:06:50 WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM TO REPRESENT US AS WE
09:06:53 INVOLVE OURSELVES INTO FACETS OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE
09:06:57 COUNTY, THE STATE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
09:07:02 LET THEM REPRESENT US, OH, GOD, STEADFASTNESS AND FOR
09:07:04 THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
09:07:07 LET THEM REPRESENT US, OH GOD, FROM THE BUSINESS WORLD
09:07:11 AND THAT THEY MIGHT CREATE EMPLOYMENT.
09:07:15 CREATE OH GOD ECONOMIC LEVEL IN THIS COMMUNITY AS NEVER
09:07:16 SEEN BEFORE.
09:07:18 WE ASK THESE BLESS INFORMATION THE NAME OF THE LORD AND
09:07:22 SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST AND FOR HIS SAKE WE DO PRAY, AMEN.
09:07:23 AMEN.
09:07:36 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:07:38 >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:07:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:07:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:07:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: -- HERE.
09:07:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:07:50 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:07:53 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:07:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE COOL.
09:07:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:57 BEFORE WE DO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, A FEW HOUSEKEEPING
09:07:59 ITEMS IF WE MAY.
09:08:03 WANT TO DO A MOTION FORMALLY ASKING THE CLERK TO PUT ON
09:08:08 THE AGENDA 10:30 FOR STAFF REPORTS JUST SO THAT THE --
09:08:12 THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THAT FROM NOW ON OTHER THAN BY
09:08:13 TRADITION.
09:08:16 HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
09:08:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS BY DIRECTION OF
09:08:21 YOUR RULES AND PROCEDURES, YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS.
09:08:25 SO IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT ME TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF
09:08:28 BUSINESS TO ALLOW THAT AT 10:30, I WILL DO THAT.
09:08:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN THAT MOTION IS AMENDED TO ASK MR.
09:08:32 SHELBY TO DO SO.
09:08:32 IS THAT OKAY?
09:08:35 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:08:40 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:08:43 ITEM 46 SHOULD BE CONTINUED TO MARCH 19.
09:08:45 A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
09:08:48 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:08:51 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:08:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:08:53 ANY OPPOSED?
09:08:55 OKAY.
09:08:58 THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS REQUESTED A TWO-WEEK
09:09:03 CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM 41 WHICH WILL BE MARCH 19.
09:09:06 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:09:08 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:09:09 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:10 ANY OPPOSED?
09:09:11 OKAY.
09:09:14 I WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE STAFF REPORTS THAT I
09:09:17 USUALLY DO AND SEE FOR THOSE WHO MADE THE MOTIONS IF WE
09:09:21 ARE GOING TO NEED STAFF HERE OR JUST A REPORT AND HOW
09:09:25 LONG YOU ANTICIPATE THIS GOING FOR PURPOSES OF TIMING.
09:09:27 ITEM 65.
09:09:27 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:09:32 DO YOU NEED SOMEONE HERE FOR THAT, SIR?
09:09:34 IF YOU NEED MORE TIME -- DO YOU?
09:09:35 YES.
09:09:37 YES, TO 65.
09:09:41 66, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU NEED SOMEONE FOR THAT
09:09:44 HERE LIVE, SIR?
09:09:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:09:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES TO 66.
09:09:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND ONE WILL GO REALLY FAST.
09:09:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU NEED SOMEONE HERE?
09:09:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:09:56 >>LUIS VIERA: 67.
09:09:57 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:10:03 FOR MEMORIAL PARK, 66, 67, 68, 69, YES, OF COURSE.
09:10:04 70.
09:10:08 COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU NEED SOMEONE THERE LIVE FOR
09:10:10 THAT, SIR?
09:10:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, DEFINITELY.
09:10:17 >> DO YOU NEED SOMEONE LIVE FOR MA MANISCALCO, THE
09:10:22 SIX-MONTH REPORT ON THE WMBE PROGRAM.
09:10:24 >> NO, I DON'T.
09:10:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM 72.
09:10:28 KINGSTON IS NOT HERE.
09:10:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SECONDED THE MOTION.
09:10:33 I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE THERE PLEASE.
09:10:42 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ITEM 73?
09:10:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:10:47 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES, WANT SOMEBODY HERE FOR
09:10:49 T.H.A.N.?
09:10:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:10:54 >>LUIS VIERA: 75 WORKSHOP AND YES.
09:10:56 THAT'S IT.
09:10:56 MARVELOUS.
09:11:00 LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS.
09:11:04 FOR ITEM 63 AND 64, WE HAVE AN INTERPRETER PRESENT FOR
09:11:05 THESE ITEMS.
09:11:10 SO I AM GOING TO HAVE THESE HEARD BEFORE LUNCH.
09:11:13 AND I AM PRETTY DARN SURE WE CAN DO THAT.
09:11:16 I AM PRETTY DARN SURE WE CAN DO THAT AND LET EVERYBODY
09:11:16 KNOW.
09:11:21 ITEM 63 AND 64, AN INTERPRETER WHO IS BILLING BY THE
09:11:24 HOUR APPARENTLY, SO WE WILL HAVE HIM HERE PRIOR TO
09:11:24 THAT.
09:11:28 OKAY, MAY I HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND
09:11:30 ADDENDUM.
09:11:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN FAVOR.
09:11:36 >>LUIS VIERA: CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
09:11:53 ITEM NUMBER ONE.
09:11:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE CHAIR OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:12:00 MY PLEASURE TO BRING UP DIAN DAVIS.
09:12:03 WITH THAT PRETTY SMILE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RETIRE.
09:12:07 I MEAN, EVERY TIME I COME TO CITY HALL AND SEE A SMILE,
09:12:10 NO MATTER WHAT IS ON ANYONE'S MIND HERE, YOU LIVEN UP
09:12:15 THE BRAIN CELLS, AND YOU MAKE A DAY SEEM TO GO BY
09:12:19 RATHER QUICKLY AND VERY, VERY SOOTHING TO THE SOUL,
09:12:22 BECAUSE WHEN YOU WALK IN SOMEWHERE AND YOU SEE SOMEBODY
09:12:26 WHO IS LOOKING AT YOU LIKE I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE,
09:12:28 NOBODY WANTS TO BE HERE.
09:12:31 JUST TO SEE THE SMILE I STARTED WITH THIS MORNING,
09:12:34 REMINDS ME OF 19 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE LEGAL
09:12:34 DEPARTMENT.
09:12:37 WANT TO TELL OF ANY SECRETS?
09:12:37 >> NO.
09:12:37 [LAUGHTER]
09:12:40 I MIGHT HAVE TO KILL YOU.
09:12:42 [LAUGHTER]
09:12:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.
09:12:46 YOU KNOW, YOU WORKED WITH -- I CAN'T TELL HOW MANY
09:12:51 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS AND YOUR DEDICATION, I
09:12:54 GUARANTEE YOU OVER 50.
09:12:57 AND THE WAY YOU HANDLE YOURSELF, THE FRESHNESS.
09:13:02 YOU HANDLE A LOT OF CITY ATTORNEYS, ASSISTANT CITY
09:13:05 ATTORNEYS FRESH OUT OF LAW, AND THEY HAVE A LAW DEGREE
09:13:08 AND THEY CAN UNDERSTAND BUT TO PUT THAT INTO
09:13:09 PRACTICALITY.
09:13:11 YOU ARE THE LEADING LIGHT, THE BEAM THAT SHOWED THEM
09:13:14 THE WAY, AND THIS IS THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE
09:13:16 AND UP TO THEM TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
09:13:18 WE ARE SO HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE.
09:13:21 AND YOU LOOK KIND OF YOUNG TO RETIRE THOUGH.
09:13:23 SO I AM SURE YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
09:13:30 BUT YOU HAVE BEEN A FIELD OF MUNICIPAL PROSECUTION AND
09:13:32 CIVIL CITATION AND VERY IMPORTANT THAT DO YOU IT RIGHT
09:13:35 THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE CERTAINLY
09:13:41 CITED OF SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LARGER CONSEQUENCES AND
09:13:46 WITH YOUR GUIDANCE YOU MAKE EVERYTHING GOES FINE.
09:13:49 YOUR 19 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU MAKE A
09:13:52 REPRESENTATION OF THOSE WHO NEEDED HELP, BUT ALSO YOU
09:13:54 MADE SURE THAT THE LAW WAS GUIDED THE RIGHT WAY.
09:13:58 WE ARE HONORED TO TELL YOU THANK YOU, MISS DAVIS, FOR
09:14:01 EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR YOUR 19 YEARS OF SERVICE.
09:14:07 [APPLAUSE]
09:14:11 >> IT TRULY HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND PLEASURE SERVING THE
09:14:11 CITY.
09:14:17 AND I THANK GOD THAT HE ALLOWED ME TO RETIRE.
09:14:21 AND I AM GOING TO DO JUST THAT.
09:14:22 THANK YOU.
09:14:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:14:27 ANY COMMENTS?
09:14:30 AND, MA'AM, IF YOU DON'T -- IF YOU DON'T MIND
09:14:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTS TO -- YOU DON'T MIND.
09:14:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT IS A BLESSING TO SAY THAT WORD
09:14:38 "RETIREMENT."
09:14:42 A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY, THEY ARE
09:14:42 STILL WORKING.
09:14:45 THANK GOD HE GAVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.
09:14:46 YOU GO AND ENJOY YOURSELF.
09:14:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
09:14:49 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, MA'AM.
09:14:52 AND I HOPE THAT YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT AND WE ARE
09:14:55 PROUD HERE TO HONOR YOU FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE
09:14:56 TO THE CITY.
09:14:59 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:14:59 >> THANK YOU.
09:15:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER TWO, I BELIEVE, HAS BEEN
09:15:05 DONE OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL.
09:15:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
09:15:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:15:11 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:15:12 ANY OPPOSED?
09:15:13 OKAY.
09:15:16 ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:15:21 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:15:24 DO YOU HAVE YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTER, SIR?
09:15:35 >> I THINK THEY PREFER TO SIT, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
09:15:38 COUNCILMAN, MEMBERS, I WILL BE A LITTLE -- A PATH FOR
09:15:43 ME TO GET UP THERE ON THE DAIS, AND IN THAT PATH, I
09:15:48 SERVED WITH MANY FINE TURNS TO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:15:54 REBECCA KERT, ERNIE MUELLER, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
09:15:57 AND THE HELP I RECEIVED FROM THEM IN TEACHING ME WAYS
09:16:01 OF THE CITY IS THE REASON WHY I AM GOING TO BE A LITTLE
09:16:05 SELFISH AND THANK THEM FOR WHAT THEY DID FOR ME IN
09:16:08 HELPING ME LEARN ABOUT THE CITY.
09:16:14 BOY, I SOUND LIKE A BEATLES SONG.
09:16:17 JERROD SIMPSON AND HIS ACHIEVEMENT WITH THE CITY OF
09:16:20 TAMPA AS A CITY ATTORNEY, WE WISH YOU WELL.
09:16:23 WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT TAKE YOU IN
09:16:26 DIFFERENT CAREER PATHS AND OF COURSE A GREAT FAMILY
09:16:28 THAT HAS HELPED YOU ALONG IN YOUR CAREER.
09:16:30 SO YOU ARE GOING TO LAKELAND.
09:16:34 AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
09:16:41 JERROD HELPED ME WITH HIS LEGAL ADVISORY ON MANY THINGS
09:16:44 INCLUDING CODE ENFORCEMENT WHEN I WAS THERE.
09:16:49 HE HAS ALSO HELPED AS A MUNICIPAL PROSECUTOR HELPING
09:16:51 WITH COMPLIANCE, NOT PUNISHMENT.
09:16:54 THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WHEN I WAS A -- A CODE
09:16:59 ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE, I WOULD RATHER SEEK HELP FOR
09:17:04 PEOPLE WHO WERE IN NEED WHO COULD NOT AFFORD OR DIDN'T
09:17:07 HAVE THE POWER THEMSELVES TO GET THINGS DONE, AND I
09:17:10 THANK YOU FOR TEACHING ME THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO --
09:17:15 TO REP INSTEAD OF PUNISH.
09:17:21 AND APPEALS WHERE HE SUCCESSFULLY PREVAILED IN
09:17:23 LITGATION THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, SAVED THE CITY
09:17:25 LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.
09:17:27 HE WAS WITH BUILDING OFFICIAL, NATIONAL RESOURCE
09:17:27 DIVISION.
09:17:33 HE SERVED AS AN ATTORNEY HANDLING FIRE RESCUE.
09:17:36 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ISSUES AND HAVE DONE EXCESSIVE WORK
09:17:38 WITH OUR TREE CODE.
09:17:44 IT IS A SHAME THAT TALLAHASSEE IS REEXEMPTING US ON A
09:17:45 LOT OF THAT.
09:17:49 WE THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US.
09:17:51 BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH YOU HELPED ME AND THE CITY, TAMPA
09:17:56 CITY COUNCIL CONGRATULATES JERROD SIMPSON AS CITY TAMPA
09:17:59 ATTORNEY AND WISHES HIM WELL IN HIS CAREER
09:18:02 OPPORTUNITIES AND ALL OF HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
09:18:09 AS AN ASSISTANT ATTORNEY HE HAS DONE WORK IN CODE
09:18:12 ENFORCEMENT AND TRADED AND GUIDED CODE ENFORCEMENT
09:18:15 OFFICER ON A DAILY BASIS AND REPRESENTED THE CITY IN
09:18:17 CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS.
09:18:24 SERVED AS MUNICIPAL PROSECUTOR HELPING TO ENFORCE CITY,
09:18:25 NOT PUNISHMENT.
09:18:33 HANDLED APPEALS AND SUCCESSFULLY PREVAILED AND SAVED
09:18:34 LEGAL COST.
09:18:39 HE WAS WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION.
09:18:44 SERVED AS AN ATTORNEY WITH TAMPA RESCUE AND WORK WITH
09:18:47 THE TREE ORDINANCE AS I JUST SAID.
09:18:50 MR. SIMPSON, YOU HAVE HAD AN ENGAGING CAREER THUS FAR
09:18:52 IN YOUR TIME HERE IN THE CITY.
09:18:56 WE WISH YOU WELL ON YOUR FUTURE.
09:18:58 CITY TAMPA COUNCIL PRESENTS YOU WITH THIS COMMENDATION
09:19:02 ON THE FIFTH DAY OF MARCH, 2020.
09:19:04 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
09:19:10 [APPLAUSE]
09:19:11 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:19:13 I AM TRULY HONORED BY THIS.
09:19:14 VERY SURPRISED.
09:19:17 AND IT HAS BEEN THE GREATEST PRIVILEGE OF MY CAREER TO
09:19:19 SERVE THIS CITY.
09:19:25 AS JOE SAID, I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN CODE ENFORCEMENT AS
09:19:29 SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED WITH COMPASSION AND
09:19:32 THAT IS THE WILL OF THIS BODY AND THE CITY.
09:19:36 IT IS A MESSY BUSINESS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT AN
09:19:37 ESSENTIAL FUNCTION OF THE GOVERNMENT.
09:19:40 AND TRULY HONORED TO BE RECEIVING THIS.
09:19:41 THANK YOU.
09:19:44 [APPLAUSE]
09:19:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS?
09:19:49 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
09:19:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SHORT TIME I KNOWN YOU I HAVE
09:19:55 SEEN SOME OF YOUR WORK AND THE KEY WORD IS
09:19:58 "COMPASSION."
09:20:02 YOU NEED THAT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
09:20:04 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR HOMES AND
09:20:04 PROPERTIES.
09:20:06 THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND HELP CITIZENS WITH THAT
09:20:10 COMPASSION AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU IN YOUR NEW
09:20:12 ENDEAVOR.
09:20:13 THANK YOU.
09:20:14 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
09:20:16 YOU WORK TIRELESSLY.
09:20:17 YOU ARE ALWAYS HERE.
09:20:19 YOU HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AND WE APPRECIATE YOU
09:20:22 AND SO MANY OTHERS IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:20:25 I HOPE FOLKS REALIZE JUST HOW MANY HOURS AND SACRIFICES
09:20:30 YOU PUT IN TO MAKE SURE THINGS RUN SMOOTHLY, LEGALLY,
09:20:32 PROTECTING THE CITY BECAUSE YOU DO AND HELPING OTHERS.
09:20:36 SO WE ARE THANKFUL FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE HERE.
09:20:41 AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:42 I WANT TO ECHO THAT.
09:20:45 MR. SIMPSON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:20:47 YOU ARE GOING TO THE CITY OF LAKELAND AND CONTINUE IN
09:20:49 THE PATH OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
09:20:52 AS YOU KNOW I AM AN ATTORNEY AS WELL, AND UNDERSTAND
09:20:53 THE STRESS OF THE JOB.
09:20:55 IT IS A VERY, VERY STRESSFUL JOB.
09:20:56 IT ALWAYS IS.
09:20:59 AND YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, ALWAYS THIS STEREOTYPE IN THE
09:21:02 PUBLIC SECTOR THERE IS LESS STRESS.
09:21:03 NOT TRUE.
09:21:04 IT IS MORE STRESS.
09:21:07 IF I MAKE A MISTAKE IN MY PRIVATE PRACTICE, VERY FEW
09:21:09 PEOPLE WILL KNOW ABOUT IT, RIGHT.
09:21:12 WHEREAS IF YOU DO, A PUBLIC PRICE TO PAY.
09:21:14 YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THAT POSITION.
09:21:17 IT IS A VERY, VERY STRESSFUL JOB.
09:21:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:21 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:21:23 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:21:25 IF YOU WERE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME
09:21:25 FORWARD.
09:21:27 THREE MINUTES A PERSON.
09:21:41 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
09:21:43 >> WOW, FIRST.
09:21:48 TRAVIS WARREN, AN YBOR CITY BUSINESS LEADER AND I
09:21:50 CERTAINLY WASN'T EXPECTED TO GO FIRST THIS MORNING AND
09:21:53 APPRECIATE ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF
09:21:55 THIS LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY.
09:21:57 I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING MY WORDS THIS MORNING.
09:21:59 HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:22:03 TRANSPORTATION PROPOSAL TO REWORK THE EXITS IN OUR
09:22:04 AREA.
09:22:08 LIKE YOU ALL, I HEAR ON NEWS REPORTS NAMES, MAL
09:22:10 FUNCTION JUNCTION.
09:22:13 SOMETHING WE HEARD A TIME OR TWO AND WE HEAR PROBLEMS
09:22:16 WITH TRAFFIC EACH MORNING AND I THINK WHAT THEY HAVE
09:22:20 DONE IS COME UP WITH A WORKABLE, REASONABLE PROPOSAL.
09:22:24 AND SO MYSELF AS A BUSINESS LEADER IN YBOR CITY, I
09:22:27 WANTED TO COME AND SUPPORT THAT AND ASK YOU ALL TO AS
09:22:27 WELL.
09:22:28 THANK YOU.
09:22:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:22:33 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:22:34 >> MICHAEL FARMER.
09:22:39 MAY I SUBMIT THIS TO THE CLERK'S FILE.
09:22:51 I HAVE SENT COUNCILMEMBERS E-MAIL OF MY CONCERN OF
09:22:54 COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, HD LANDSCAPING OPERATING IN A
09:22:55 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:22:58 CODE ENFORCEMENT IS CITING THE WRONG OWNER.
09:23:01 CODE ENFORCEMENT REFUSED TO CONTACT REAL PROPERTY
09:23:04 MANAGEMENT, THE COMPANY THAT MANAGES THE PROPERTY AND
09:23:09 HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE OWNER OF 2617.
09:23:15 BUT INSTEAD CONTINUED TO COMMUNICATE AND THE VIOLATORS
09:23:18 AND OUR CASES WHILE I AM LEFT TO BELIEVE THE CASE IS
09:23:20 ONGOING.
09:23:23 ONE I FIND OUT AND CONTINUE TO PERSIST AND PROVIDE
09:23:26 PICTURES OF VIOLATION, BECAUSE THEY SAY WE CAN'T CATCH
09:23:29 THEM, YOU JUST CONTINUE TO TAKE PICTURES AND SHOW UP TO
09:23:30 COURT.
09:23:33 I HAD TO FIND OUT ON MY OWN WHEN THE COURT DATE WAS,
09:23:35 WHICH WAS YESTERDAY.
09:23:42 THE INSPECTOR DID NOT CONTACT ME ABOUT ALL THE PICTURES
09:23:44 I HAD OR IF THEY HAD TO BE PRINTED.
09:23:48 THE ATTORNEY THREW ME UNDER THE BUS, SO TO SPEAK, BY
09:23:51 TELLING THE MAGISTRATE NOT TO EXPECT THE 27 PICTURES
09:23:53 BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THEIR COMPUTER.
09:23:56 THE MAGISTRATE AGREED AND THE ATTORNEY REQUESTED THE
09:23:59 CASE TO BE REMANDED BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT.
09:24:03 WHEN ONLY IF THE DEPARTMENT HAD ONLY DID AS IT ASKED TO
09:24:06 MAKE CONTACT WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT RUN THE
09:24:10 DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO CONTACT
09:24:13 THE OWNER, I WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN DOING
09:24:16 THEIR JOB AND HAVING STRIFE WITH THE NEXT-DOOR
09:24:17 NEIGHBOR.
09:24:21 BUT INSTEAD THEY LISTENED TO AND KEPT IN CONTACT WITH
09:24:22 THE TENANTS IN VIOLATION.
09:24:26 THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION I REQUEST FROM COUNCIL TODAY
09:24:31 IF ANY MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE ATTACHMENT WITH
09:24:36 THE 27 PICTURES, I ASK AT YOUR PLEASURE TO MAKE A
09:24:39 MOTION THESE PICTURES BE PRINTED AND SENT TO THE
09:24:42 MAGISTRATE AND INCLUDED AS PART OF THE CASE AND LET ME
09:24:43 KNOW.
09:24:45 MAKE CONTACT WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY BECAUSE CODE
09:24:48 ENFORCEMENT SAY THEY CAN'T DO THAT OR HAVE THE
09:24:51 MANAGEMENT COMPANY APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL.
09:24:56 HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL TO REPORT HOW THESE TWO COMPANIES AT
09:24:59 CURTIS STREET ADDRESSES BOUGHT HOME IN THE BLACK
09:25:03 COMMUNITY THAT WAS FOR LOW INCOME AND NOW PROFIT IN
09:25:07 RENTAL INCOME BY USING EACH OTHER'S ADDRESS.
09:25:11 QUESTION, DOES THIS MEAN THE LOSS OF CHANGE -- LAWS
09:25:14 HAVE CHANGED WHERE YOU CAN GET A RENTAL CERTIFICATE BY
09:25:17 USING A NEIGHBOR'S ADDRESS?
09:25:21 THANK YOU.
09:25:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN --
09:25:27 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL -- GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:25:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERYBODY RECEIVED MR. FARMER'S
09:25:30 REPORT.
09:25:33 MY OFFICE HAS ALREADY SUBMITTED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO
09:25:34 LOOK INTO THAT.
09:25:36 SO THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
09:25:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:25:40 ANYONE.
09:25:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN
09:25:45 GUDES SAID.
09:25:48 IT IS ALARMING IN THIS CASE WHERE THE OWNER IS OUTSIDE
09:25:49 THE UNITED STATES.
09:25:54 AND HE HAS A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT RUNS AND MAYBE
09:25:57 OTHERS, AND THE WAY THAT IT FIGURED OUT.
09:26:00 YOU ARE GOING TO CHASE -- LIKE CHASING YOUR OWN TAIL,
09:26:03 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIGHT IT UNLESS DO YOU WHAT MR.
09:26:06 FARMER DID, DID HIS OWN INVESTIGATION AND BROUGHT IT TO
09:26:06 LIGHT.
09:26:08 I WANT TO THANK HIM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PUTTING UP
09:26:12 WITH THIS KIND OF NONSENSE, LIKE YOURS, SIR, MORE OF
09:26:17 THOSE CASES IN EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA THAT SOMETIMES
09:26:20 LET'S YOU TO BELIEVE THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, THEY
09:26:22 HAVE A WAY TO GO AROUND IT.
09:26:25 WE ARE GOING TO START WORKING ON CHANGING SOME OF THESE
09:26:26 THINGS.
09:26:28 IN FACT I WAS WRITING A FEW OF THEM AS THE COUNCIL
09:26:30 STARTED IN SESSION.
09:26:33 AND IT'S A SAD SITUATION WHEN THIS HAPPENS.
09:26:36 BUT MORE THAN THAT, I THINK YOU NEED COOPERATIVE EFFORT
09:26:39 FOR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES SUCH AS THE INCOME
09:26:41 TAX PEOPLE.
09:26:44 WHEN YOU HAVE MONIES AND YOU HAVE RENTAL PROPERTY AND
09:26:47 YOU HAVE THESE THINGS GOING ON AND NOT IN YOUR CASE
09:26:50 MAYBE, BUT ANOTHER CASE THAT YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE
09:26:55 OTHER HOUSES THAT YOU BUILT OUT OF SHACKS AND IT LOOKS
09:26:58 REAL NICE INSIDE AND YOU PUT THEM ON AIRBNB WHATEVER
09:26:59 YOU CALL AND RENT IT OUT.
09:27:02 THE LAND UNDER THOSE BUILDINGS WERE NOT MET FOR
09:27:03 MULTIPLE DWELLINGS.
09:27:10 IT WAS RS-50, RS-60, RS-75 FOR SINGLE ONE HOME.
09:27:12 THE INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN THOSE HOMES ARE
09:27:18 NOT ONLY -- NOT PAYING THE TAXES THE AD VALOREM BASE
09:27:25 CHEATING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, CITY OF TAMPA, AND ALONG
09:27:28 WITH THAT, MOST OF THESE PAYMENTS ARE MADE IN CASH.
09:27:29 I HAVE EVIDENCE OF THAT.
09:27:32 AND THESE THINGS ARE GOING IN DAY IN, DAY OUT, NOT ONLY
09:27:36 IN THIS CITY BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
09:27:37 IT IS A WAY OF CHEATING.
09:27:40 AND YOU CAN ROB THE BANK AND YOU GO TO JAIL, BUT YOU
09:27:43 CAN ROB THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU DON'T GO TO JAIL.
09:27:44 AND I THINK THAT IS WRONG.
09:27:45 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:27:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:27:49 ANYONE ELSE?
09:27:52 BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE I MENTIONED 63 AND 64 AND
09:27:59 SAID IT IN ENGLISH AND TRY TO SAY IT IN SPANISH.
09:28:17 [SPEAKING SPANISH]
09:28:21 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, PLEASE.
09:28:39 I DO ALL RIGHT, MAN, I DO ALL RIGHT.
09:28:42 >> NOT SURE IF THIS WILL GET PICKED UP OR HOW TO MAKE
09:28:43 IT WORK.
09:28:49 >>LUIS VIERA: IS IT -- IS THERE A BUTTON -- THEY ARE
09:28:53 WORKING ON IT.
09:29:00 >> MY NAME IS RICK FERNANDEZ, ELMORE AVENUE, TAMPA
09:29:01 HEIGHTS.
09:29:05 I AM CHAIR OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION
09:29:06 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
09:29:11 I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 69 OF YOUR
09:29:15 AGENDA RELATED TO THE FDOT PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE
09:29:19 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE AND THE ENTIRE TAMPA BAY NEXT
09:29:20 PROJECT.
09:29:23 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. FERNANDEZ.
09:29:27 STOP THE TIMER TO WORK ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
09:29:28 YOUR TIMER --
09:29:31 >> SORRY, SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR TECHNICAL HELP BEFORE
09:29:33 WE STARTED THE MEETING.
09:29:43 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
09:29:45 >> I HAVE BEEN HERE SO MANY TIMES BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK
09:29:46 ON THIS ISSUE.
09:29:49 EVEN THOUGH I WAS SOME COMMENTS WRITTEN, I NEVER QUITE
09:29:53 KNOW WHEN I COME UP HERE WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY BECAUSE
09:29:57 THERE IS USUALLY SOME EMOTION INVOLVED.
09:30:01 I SUBMITTED AN E-MAIL TO EACH OF YOU LAST NIGHT,
09:30:04 HOPEFULLY IT HIT YOUR IN BOXES.
09:30:08 THERE WERE ARTICLES ATTACHED TO IT BY WAY OF LINK.
09:30:11 THOSE MATERIALS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK FOR
09:30:14 DISTRIBUTION AND ANY REVIEW YOU DEEMED APPROPRIATE FOR
09:30:15 YOURSELF AND STAFF.
09:30:22 WE OPPOSE THE TAMPA BAY NEXT PROJECT.
09:30:25 I DON'T THINK THAT IS SURPRISE FOR ANYBODY.
09:30:27 TAMPA HEIGHTS THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DOWNTOWN
09:30:30 INTERCHANGE INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL EXITS IN YBOR
09:30:30 CITY.
09:30:32 I WILL LEAVE THAT THERE.
09:30:34 THE LETTER SAYS WHAT IT SAYS.
09:30:36 YOU HAVE HEARD ME MAKE THE COMMENTS BEFORE.
09:30:39 THE THING I WANT TO FOCUS ON TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT
09:30:43 REALLY IS BECOME MORE FOCUSED FOR ME OVER THE LAST
09:30:44 YEAR.
09:30:48 STARTED OPPOSING THIS PROJECT FIVE YEARS AGO BASED ON
09:30:50 ISSUES OF RIGHT-OF-WAY, TAKING GREEN SPACE, TAKING
09:30:51 BUILDINGS.
09:30:54 OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS FOCUSED ON ENVIRONMENTAL
09:30:56 JUSTICE FOR ME AND THE FACT THAT THE INTERSTATE
09:30:59 CORRIDOR RUNNING THROUGH THE CENTER OF TAMPA IS A
09:31:00 POLLUTION FACTORY.
09:31:03 AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
09:31:08 WE ARE GETTING REPORTS THAT THE MPO-CAC ROUTINELY NOW
09:31:12 OF THE ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS, ATTENDANT TO LIVING
09:31:16 WITHIN A 300 METER WALK SHED OF THE INTERSTATE.
09:31:22 INCREASED LEVEL OF CHILDHOOD ILLNESS, ASTHMA, CARDIO
09:31:25 PULMONARY PROBLEMS FOR THE INFIRMED AND ELDERLY
09:31:27 POPULATIONS.
09:31:30 THE RESPONSE TO THAT FROM FDOT IS TO MAKE THE POLLUTION
09:31:34 FACTORY BIGGER, TO EXTEND THE ROAD.
09:31:36 WE SAY THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.
09:31:40 WE ASK YOU TO SAY NO TO THAT.
09:31:42 AND IN PARTICULAR, THE ARTICLE THAT I PROPOSED TO YOU
09:31:47 RELATES TO THE QUESTION OF SOMEHOW CARS MOVING AT SPEED
09:31:52 ARE LESS POLLUTING THAN CARS THAT ARE SITTING AT IDLE.
09:31:55 THE ARTICLE THAT I SUBMITTED TO YOU GIVE THE LIE TO
09:31:56 THAT STATEMENT.
09:31:59 I AM NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO GET INTO IT IN MORE
09:31:59 DETAIL.
09:32:01 SUMMARIZE SOMEWHAT IN MY LETTER.
09:32:05 PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY IS PROPOSING THAT TO
09:32:07 YOU, THEY ARE NOT TELLING YOU THE TRUTH, AND IF YOU
09:32:08 WERE ADVOCATING.
09:32:10 >>LUIS VIERA: FIVE SECONDS.
09:32:12 >> IF YOU WERE ADVOCATING FOR THIS POSITION WHAT YOU
09:32:14 ARE SAYING TO ME AND THOSE LIKE ME YOU ARE NOT
09:32:15 CONCERNED ABOUT OUR HEALTH.
09:32:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, THANK YOU.
09:32:22 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:32:27 >> HELLO, REVEREND DR. GLEN DANE SR., SENIOR PASTOR OF
09:32:30 THE METHODIST CHURCH LOCATED IN THE WONDERFUL YBOR
09:32:30 CITY.
09:32:35 I COME HERE TODAY FOR THREE REASONS BUT I WILL BE
09:32:35 SHORT.
09:32:39 FIRST OF ALL, I AM IN FAVOR OF -- AND I THINK YOU HAVE
09:32:44 A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT -- THAT AND OUR 1581 MEMBERS
09:32:51 ARE IN FAVOR OF THE FDOT PROJECT, WHICH WE THINK WILL
09:32:53 BE HELPFUL TO THAT AREA.
09:32:57 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCREASED -- WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
09:32:58 INCREASED SIDEWALK SPACE.
09:33:04 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME BICYCLE PATHS FOR OUR
09:33:07 CHILDREN, BUT I THINK OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK IT IS A
09:33:08 PRETTY GOOD PROJECT.
09:33:10 SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE.
09:33:11 THAT IS THE FIRST THING.
09:33:14 MY LETTER SAYS THAT ALL, SO I DON'T HAVE TO BE
09:33:15 REDUNDANT.
09:33:20 SECONDLY, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THE
09:33:22 RESIDENTS OF TAMPA PARK APARTMENTS.
09:33:27 AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE -- SOME OF THEM -- MOST OF
09:33:31 THEM I UNDERSTAND ABOUT 300 OF THEM HAVE NOWHERE TO GO
09:33:33 AFTER THIS.
09:33:38 SO MY -- MY CONCERN IS NOT FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT
09:33:39 WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
09:33:44 AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS EXPLORING
09:33:50 OPTIONS TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THESE FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY
09:33:52 ARE LOW-INCOME FAMILIES AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT FEELS
09:33:55 LIKE NO ONE CARES.
09:33:58 AND I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A HUMANE ISSUE AND I HOPE
09:34:00 THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT IT HUMANELY.
09:34:05 LASTLY, 11TH STREET IS A DISASTER.
09:34:08 AND WE NEED SOME HELP DOWN THERE.
09:34:12 OUR 1581 FOLKS AT OUR CHURCH ARE TEARING THEIR CARS UP
09:34:15 BECAUSE OF THE POTHOLES IN THE ROAD.
09:34:18 I PRAY THAT YOU CAN FIND SOME MONEY TO PAVE THAT ROAD.
09:34:21 AND WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, WE WILL TO DO BE
09:34:25 SUPPORTIVE, BUT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED RELIEF ON 11TH
09:34:28 AVENUE BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS ABSOLUTELY DISASTROUS.
09:34:31 SO IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT, WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:34:34 BUT, AGAIN, I RENEW MY CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF
09:34:36 TAMPA PARK APARTMENTS.
09:34:36 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:34:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:34:40 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:34:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REVEREND, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN
09:34:45 AND GIVING US YOUR OPINION ON THE ISSUES.
09:34:48 WITH REGARD TO THE SECOND ISSUE, I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE
09:34:51 LAST WEEK WHEN THE TAMPA PARK ANNOUNCEMENT CAME OUT,
09:34:54 JUST SO HAPPENED WE HAD MISS MCCRERY HERE FROM OUR
09:34:57 HOUSING GROUP AND WE ASKED HER TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE
09:34:59 WHAT THE CITY COULD DO.
09:35:02 OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T STOP THE DEAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
09:35:07 >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM ASKING -- ADVOCATING.
09:35:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO HELP THE PEOPLE FINDING THE NEXT
09:35:11 PLACE TO MOVE ON TO.
09:35:15 SHE IS SUPPOSED TO REPORT BACK TO US.
09:35:17 >> IF WE CAN LOOK TO WORKSHOPPING THAT.
09:35:20 IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO,
09:35:22 ONE, HEAR FROM THEIR COUNCIL.
09:35:26 AND, TWO, EXPRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS, AND ALSO TO
09:35:27 ASSESS THEIR NEEDS.
09:35:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ACTUALLY --
09:35:29 >> I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
09:35:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO RECALL NOW THAT YOU MENTION
09:35:36 WORKSHOP, SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE ORGANIZING --
09:35:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MADE SURE -- I TOLD HER THAT WHEN
09:35:41 THEY SCHEDULE THAT SPECIAL MEETING TO MAKE SURE THIS
09:35:43 COUNCIL IS AWARE.
09:35:45 BECAUSE I KNOW THIS COUNCIL WILL WANT TO BE AT THAT
09:35:48 MEETING TO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAD TO SAY.
09:35:51 IT WOULD BE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE COULD NOT
09:35:54 TALK, BUT WE COULD LISTEN TO WHAT WAS BEING SAID.
09:35:57 I MADE SURE I MADE THAT REQUEST.
09:35:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MAKE SURE YOUR OFFICE IS
09:36:00 AWARE OF THAT DATE.
09:36:02 SHE IS GOING TO ORGANIZE SOMETHING IN THAT COMMUNITY.
09:36:06 >> IF SHE NEEDS A PLACE, I WILL OFFER ALLEN TEMPLE AS A
09:36:09 PLACE TO HOST THAT WORKSHOP IF YOU NEED A PLACE.
09:36:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WILL PASS THAT ON.
09:36:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE --
09:36:16 I HAVE AN ACTUAL LETTER -- I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY
09:36:17 RECEIVED IT.
09:36:21 THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHURCH ALLEN TEMPLE.
09:36:23 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS FROM THE CHURCH?
09:36:25 >> I THINK I SAID THAT IN MY COMMENTS EARLIER.
09:36:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, SIR.
09:36:30 >> OUR LETTER THAT WE SUBMIT AND SUPPORT
09:36:31 WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
09:36:33 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:36:36 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK AND ALSO THE
09:36:39 LINE OF PEOPLE WHO COME EVERY WEEK TO TALK ABOUT
09:36:39 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:36:42 IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THIS COUNCIL AND ALSO
09:36:46 FOR US SITTING AT THE CRA BOARD.
09:36:47 THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE BIG THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED
09:36:48 IN IT.
09:36:51 ONE IS ALLOWING THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO COME IN.
09:36:54 TODAY WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT SINGLE BID
09:36:56 CONTRACTS, AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WAS NOT OPENING IT
09:36:59 UP TO OTHER INVESTORS WHO CAN COME IN.
09:37:01 AND I THINK THAT ALL IS CHANGING.
09:37:03 BUT THAT DISCUSSION WILL HAPPEN LATER TODAY.
09:37:05 THE SECOND THING IS MONEY.
09:37:08 AND ONE BIG POT OF MONEY THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS SOME
09:37:10 INFLUENCE ON IS THE CRA MONEY.
09:37:13 AND NEXT WEEK ON THE CRA AGENDA, WE ASKED STAFF TO COME
09:37:17 BACK AND PROPOSE SPENDING UP TO 30% OF THE CRA MONEY ON
09:37:19 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:37:22 IT -- IT TURNS OUT A LOT OF THAT IS ALLOCATED ALREADY,
09:37:26 BUT EVEN IF WE COULD FIND $5 MILLION, 30% WOULD BE $10
09:37:27 MILLION OR MORE.
09:37:30 BUT FIND $5 MILLION, THAT WILL HELP TO PUSH IT FORWARD.
09:37:32 ALSO WE HAD A STAFF CHANGE.
09:37:35 AT LEAST I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO STAFF OF GETTING AN
09:37:37 ADDITIONAL PERSON.
09:37:41 A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE WORKING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:37:44 WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT WITH A DIFFERENT POINT OF
09:37:46 VIEW.
09:37:49 IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOUR INPUT IS VERY VALUABLE.
09:37:51 THANK YOU.
09:37:53 >> I HAVE 40 SECONDS LEFT AND LET ME QUICKLY SPEAK TO
09:37:54 THAT.
09:37:56 THE OPTICS OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW STINKS, JUST SO
09:37:57 YOU KNOW.
09:38:05 IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE 300 PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT NOWHERE
09:38:06 TO GO.
09:38:11 AND LOOKS LIKE -- I AM NOT SAYING IT IS -- BUT LOOKS
09:38:12 LIKE COUNCIL IS NOT AS CONCERNED.
09:38:15 I HOPE YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND.
09:38:18 I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL'S HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND
09:38:19 DESIRE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:38:23 BUT SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR
09:38:26 MOUTH AT AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
09:38:29 THAT CAN BE ALLOCATED IF WE GET A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM
09:38:30 THE COUNCIL.
09:38:30 THANK YOU.
09:38:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, SIR.
09:38:38 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:38:48 >> I NEED FOR TO YOU TELL A CORONAVIRUS EXISTS IN THE
09:38:49 ROOM.
09:38:53 THE CORONAVIRUS A AFFECTING THE WORD, BUT THE -- VIRUS
09:38:55 SUPERCEDES THE CORONAVIRUS.
09:39:00 BECAUSE THE VIRUS HAS MADE IT TO 600 YEARS AND THE
09:39:05 AFRICAN PEOPLE GOTTEN NO PEACE, NO NOTHING, NO
09:39:09 REPARATIONS RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM AMIDST THOSE
09:39:12 CHAIRS, PERRY HARVEY, GWEN MILLER, REVEREND THOMAS
09:39:20 SCOTT, KEVIN WHITE, FRANK REDDICK AND ORLANDO GUDES,
09:39:24 SEVEN BLACK REPRESENTATIVES AND NO ONE EVER SAID THE
09:39:28 WORDS OUT OF THEIR MOUTH WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION.
09:39:33 WE ARE 26% OF TAMPA'S POPULATION AND NOT ONE OF YOU
09:39:36 SAID WE NEED 26% OF THE CITY'S BUDGET.
09:39:39 THEY HAVE NOT CALLED FOR 26% OF THE BUDGET FOR
09:39:44 CONTRACTORS, FOR AFRICAN HOUSING, FOR AFRICAN CHILDREN.
09:39:45 NOT ONE.
09:39:49 NOT ONE HAS MENTIONED THE WORD REPARATIONS OUT OF THEIR
09:39:50 MOUTH.
09:39:53 600 YEARS OF FREE LABOR THAT WHITE FOLKS GOTTEN OUT
09:39:55 MUCH US.
09:40:00 NOT ONE CALLED FOR THE REMOVAL OF BOB BUCKHORN WHEN HE
09:40:04 CALLED FOR THE LYNCHING OF A YOUNG AFRICAN MAN IN
09:40:05 PUBLIC.
09:40:06 THE COWARD VIRUS.
09:40:10 SITTING AMONG YOU ARE SEVEN WHITE BULLIES.
09:40:14 SIX WHITE BULLIES SITTING RIGHT AMONGST YOU.
09:40:18 BULLIES, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.
09:40:22 I DON'T CARE WHAT PACKAGE, LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE,
09:40:25 ENVIRONMENTALIST, TREE LOVER, ANIMAL LOVER.
09:40:30 THE SAME ANIMAL LOVERS WHITE ANIMAL LOVES THAT LOVE THE
09:40:33 ANIMALS SO MUCH THEY WANT TO SEE MICHAEL VICK JUST
09:40:33 DESTROYED.
09:40:35 SEE A BLACK MAN DESTROYED.
09:40:42 THE COWARD VIRUS AMONGST VIRUS AMONGST AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:40:44 NOW THEY INFESTED US WITH.
09:40:45 HOW THEY TRAIN US TO ACT.
09:40:49 HOW THEY TRAIN MARTIN LUTHER KING.
09:40:49 LOVE YOUR ENEMY.
09:40:54 LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AND MOUNTAINTOP AND LITTLE WHITE
09:41:01 BOYS AND LIVING IN PEACE AND WHITE FOLK TREATING US
09:41:02 LIKE DIRT.
09:41:04 EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM HAVE HATE IN THEIR HEART.
09:41:07 NOT SOME OF THEM, ALL OF THEM, AND YOU CAN SEE.
09:41:09 YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT BY THE WAY BLACK PEOPLE
09:41:11 ARE TREATED.
09:41:12 YOU CAN SEE IT.
09:41:14 THE COWARD VIRUS.
09:41:18 A BUNCH OF SILLY COWARDS, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS,
09:41:21 AND WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WHEN BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MARTIN
09:41:23 LUTHER KING, JR., THE KING OF THE COWARDS, AND ONCE HE
09:41:25 LEARNED WHAT WAS GOING ON, THEY KILLED HIM.
09:41:27 THEY MURDERED HIM.
09:41:35 BARACK THE KING OF THE COWARDS AND HE AND HIS BUCKTOOTH
09:41:37 WIFE MAKING MONEY AND THE OTHER MAN DESTROY THEIR
09:41:38 IMAGE.
09:41:40 YOU NEED TO TIGHTEN UP.
09:41:42 >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:41:43 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:41:48 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
09:41:55 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE WITH UNCERTAINTY ALL THE TIME
09:42:01 AND NEVER LIVE IN A PLACE THAT HAS BEEN NATIONALLY
09:42:04 KNOWN IT WAS A WAR TONE VILLAGE.
09:42:09 THE EFFECTS OF UNCERTAINTY HAS A STINGING EFFECT.
09:42:13 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMING OUT OF AFRICAN HISTORY AND
09:42:16 ASK WHAT HAPPENED TO BLACK WALL STREET.
09:42:18 WHAT HAPPENED TO TULSA.
09:42:20 WHAT HAPPENED TO ROSE WOOD.
09:42:22 YOU KNOW WHAT WE ADD TO THAT, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE
09:42:24 PEOPLE IN TAMPA PARK.
09:42:27 IRREGARDLESS OF THE DEALS THAT ARE MADE, THE PEOPLE ARE
09:42:33 NEEDING OF ASSISTANCE AND WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS CITY
09:42:38 GOVERNMENT WILL MOVE BEYOND DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
09:42:41 THEY WILL PAY THE UTILITY BILL BECAUSE WE KNOW THE
09:42:45 CONDITION OF THAT POPULATION IN TERM WHAT THEY HAVE
09:42:50 ANNUALLY TO PAY AS OPPOSED WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM IN
09:42:51 THIS CITY RIGHT NOW.
09:42:55 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME.
09:42:58 CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO MOVE BEYOND CONVERSATION, BUT
09:43:04 INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA, A PIONEER HAS EMERGED TO CANER
09:43:05 HOME.
09:43:06 I AM GLAD IF HAS HAPPENED.
09:43:10 IT HAS HAPPENED BY A WHITE GENTLEMAN AND HIS PARTNER
09:43:16 COMING TO 3612 BISHOP NEWKIRK WAY AND BUILDING A
09:43:17 WONDERFUL CONTAINER HOME.
09:43:18 TO SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN.
09:43:21 WE DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR IT.
09:43:21 IT CAN.
09:43:23 IT HAS TO TAKE WILL.
09:43:27 WE KNOW THERE IS GREAT RESISTANCE IN OUR CRA IN EAST
09:43:30 TAMPA FOR MAKING SOMETHING LIKE IT HAPPEN.
09:43:31 AND I DON'T KNOW WHY.
09:43:38 I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS NUMBER 67 IN TERMS OF THE
09:43:40 MEMORIAL CEMETERY IS IN SHAMBLES.
09:43:43 I HOPE THE SOLUTION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE THIS
09:43:49 MORNING IS TO GIVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN BE THE
09:43:51 CARETAKERS OF OUR PEOPLE.
09:43:55 WE WANT TO BE -- WE WANT TO BECOME THE CARETAKERS OF
09:43:59 OUR COMMUNITY AND WITH REGARD TO NUMBER 67, PEOPLE ARE
09:44:02 SAYING THEY DON'T WANT THE EXPANSION ON 14TH STREET.
09:44:06 WHAT WE SAY TO FDOT, OPEN 34TH STREET AND 40TH STREET
09:44:12 EXIT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN AN ECONOMIC SANCTION
09:44:16 THAT NO BUSINESS COMES DOWN 34TH STREET.
09:44:18 NO COME DOWN 40TH STREET.
09:44:20 IT IS ALL DESIGNED.
09:44:22 IT IS CONTINUATION OF RED LINING.
09:44:27 IT IS A CONTINUATION OF SANCTIONING THE AFRICAN
09:44:30 COMMUNITY SHALL NOT PROSPER.
09:44:31 THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS TO US.
09:44:36 AS YOU BUILD THIS WONDERFUL TAMPA, WE HAVE CRISIS IN
09:44:41 OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE NO AFFORDABLE, ATTAINABLE,
09:44:46 WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IT DOES NOT OCCUR FOR
09:44:48 WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE AND WE CALL FOR THIS COUNCIL AND
09:44:50 THIS MAYOR TO MOVE TO THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
09:44:51 THANK YOU.
09:44:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:44:53 WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:44:54 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:44:56 >> GOOD MORNING, JOHNNY JOHNSON.
09:45:00 I'M HERE TO SPEAK OF TAMPA PARK AND THE SITUATION THAT
09:45:03 I LOOK AT AS TAMPA PARK IS TWO-FOLD.
09:45:06 THE FIRST FOLD IS THE DISPLACE THE FAMILIES AND PUT
09:45:09 THEM IN A SITUATION THAT WE ALL KNOW THEY CAN'T HANDLE
09:45:13 DUE TO THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION.
09:45:14 THE VOTING.
09:45:16 LOOK AT THE TIME THEY HAVE TO BE OUT OF THE RESIDENCE
09:45:20 IN NOVEMBER, THAT CAUSED A VOTING BACKLASH.
09:45:22 ALSO YOU RUIN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY NOT ONLY FOR ADULTS,
09:45:23 BUT FOR KIDS.
09:45:25 LOOK AT THE STRESS THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE ON THE
09:45:28 KIDS.
09:45:32 HOLD COMMUNITY IS BEING DISCOMBOBULATED AND MOVED OUT
09:45:35 SO THE KIDS HAVE TO FIND A WHOLE NEW START.
09:45:37 AND ADDING ON STRESS WITHOUT TAXATION WITHOUT
09:45:39 REPRESENTATION.
09:45:40 WE COME DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK.
09:45:43 I DON'T LOOK TO MAKE NO FRIENDS.
09:45:44 I LOOK TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
09:45:47 YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO LIKE US WHATSOEVER, BUT I
09:45:50 APPRECIATE THE GUY THAT'S DO COME OUT TO SEE WHAT IS
09:45:56 GOING ON, TO TRY TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF UNDERSTANDING SO
09:45:59 YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT COMING OUT OF LEFT FIELD
09:46:01 WITH THE ISSUES AND CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S WE COME AND
09:46:02 BRING BEFORE YOU GUYS.
09:46:06 ALL WE ASK THAT WE SHOULD BE ON THE SAME TEAM.
09:46:09 YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO US AND REACH ACROSS THE AISLE
09:46:09 TO YOU.
09:46:12 BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY
09:46:15 SITTING BACK SITTING ON TOP OF THEIR EGO.
09:46:15 LIVES INVOLVED.
09:46:18 PEOPLE'S LIVES INVOLVED AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS
09:46:19 TO KIDS.
09:46:21 OUR FUTURE.
09:46:21 RECYCLING.
09:46:25 EVERYTHING THAT'S DISAPPEARED FROM CENTRAL AVENUE,
09:46:29 CENTRAL PARK, EVERY PUBLIC HOUSING AND MOSTLY RETAINED
09:46:33 BY BLACKS ARE DISAPPEARING INCLUDING OUR CEMETERIES.
09:46:33 WHAT ELSE?
09:46:35 DO YOU WANT US TO VANISH?
09:46:39 TO BE UP FRONT AND INTEGRITY IS EVERYTHING, BUT YOU
09:46:43 CANNOT SIT UP ON THE DIE IS AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE --
09:46:45 DAIS AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE TO BE ADDRESSED
09:46:47 VERY FAST AND ATTENTIVE.
09:46:51 COMING DOWN EVERY WEEK ASKING FOR THINGS, AND IT SHOULD
09:46:51 BE SAD.
09:46:57 WHERE IS EVERYBODY'S MORALS -- THE MORALS THAT YOU WERE
09:47:01 BROUGHT UP ON EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY AND
09:47:03 TREATED THE SAME.
09:47:04 FAIR OAKS, LOOK AT THAT SITUATION.
09:47:07 NONE OF YOU IN THE DAIS WOULD ALLOW YOUR FAMILY AND
09:47:11 KIDS TO COME TO THAT FACILITY BECAUSE NOT UPDATED.
09:47:14 NOTHING FOR THE KIDS TO DO AND THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THEM
09:47:16 ON THE CORNER.
09:47:19 NO UP TO DATE BASKETBALL COURT, FACILITIES TO READ,
09:47:21 RESEARCH OR DO ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE.
09:47:23 THEY GO ON THE STREETS.
09:47:28 ANY OF THESE NEW FACILITIES AROUND AND HAVE HIGH-STAKES
09:47:30 STATE-OF-THE-ART EQUIPMENT SO THE KIDS CAN PROSPER.
09:47:34 WE ARE DEMANDING THAT OUR KIDS VIDEO THE SAME THING TO
09:47:38 ELOQUENT TO DO AND BE GREAT CITIZENS FOR THE SOCIETY
09:47:39 AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BECAUSE WE
09:47:42 ARE NOT GOING NOWHERE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO COME DOWN
09:47:45 HERE UNTIL WE GET SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
09:47:48 DAISES TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY DESERVES
09:47:50 THE PIECE OF THE PIE.
09:47:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:47:52 WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:47:54 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:47:55 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:48:01 REVEREND TIMOTHY J. KEMPER PEACE PROGRESSIVE CHURCH AT
09:48:02 EAST LAKE AVENUE.
09:48:05 I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CLERGY AND A CONCERNED CITIZEN
09:48:09 FOR THE RESIDENTS AT TAMPA PARK PLAZA.
09:48:12 AND WHAT I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL WITH A COMPREHENSIVE
09:48:15 EFFORT WITH ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS IN THE GAME WOULD
09:48:20 DEVELOP A PLAN WHEREBY THOSE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE
09:48:23 AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO GO TO.
09:48:26 AND HAVE MONIES ALLOCATED SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE
09:48:27 THAT TRANSITION.
09:48:31 AND WILL CONTINUE TO ASSIST THEM AS IT HAS BEEN
09:48:34 PREVIOUS STATED WITH THEIR MONTHLY BILL PAY OF WATER,
09:48:37 ELECTRIC AND THINGS OF THOSE NATURE.
09:48:40 I CAN RECALL DR. KING ONCE SAYING, THE TIME IS ALWAYS
09:48:42 RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
09:48:46 AND WE REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS FULL, BUT WE
09:48:50 ASK THAT YOUR HEART BE OPEN TO THE MORAL IMPLICATION OF
09:48:57 NOT DISPLACING THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN LIEU THE
09:48:59 FACT THAT THE SUPER BOWL WILL BE HERE AND WE WANT OUR
09:49:03 LAST GIFT OF THE CITY TO REFLECT THAT WE HAVE UNITY IN
09:49:06 OUR CITY AND CONCERNED ONE OR ALL.
09:49:06 THANK YOU.
09:49:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:10 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:49:15 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, VERLINE DRAYTON.
09:49:19 I'M HERE FOR MY PEOPLE, THE BLACK PEOPLE.
09:49:23 34TH, JACKSON HEIGHT AREA, EAST TAMPA.
09:49:24 NO GROCERY STORES.
09:49:26 NO BUSINESSES.
09:49:29 NOTHING.
09:49:30 NOTHING.
09:49:37 YOU GOT TO GO TO EAST HILLSBOROUGH, NEBRASKA, EAST
09:49:38 HILLSBOROUGH, TEMPLE TERRACE.
09:49:45 I GREW UP ON 34 AT FAIR OAKS.
09:49:50 NO FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, NO FIRE SPRINKLERS.
09:49:50 IT IS UNSAFE.
09:49:53 ONE LADY SPOKE AT THE FAIR OAKS MEETING WHEN THEY HAD
09:49:56 IT AND THE MAYOR DIDN'T SHOW UP.
09:50:01 SHE SAID SHE SPENT $60 TO SEND HER MOTHER TO ANOTHER
09:50:04 REC CENTER BECAUSE FAIR OAKS IS NOT SAFE FOR HER
09:50:05 MOTHER.
09:50:08 NOT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PRIVILEGE TO SEND THEIR PARENT
09:50:11 OR THE ELDERLY TO A SAFER ENVIRONMENT.
09:50:14 WHY NOT WE MAKE EAST TAMPA SAFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
09:50:15 THERE.
09:50:17 BRING THE GROCERY STORES BACK.
09:50:19 DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM US.
09:50:20 WE ARE HERE TO STAY.
09:50:24 I ECHO FROM EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HAS SPOKEN, WE ARE HERE
09:50:24 TO STAY.
09:50:26 WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, THE BLACK AND THE BROWN,
09:50:29 ESPECIALLY THE BLACK, WE ARE GOING TO STAY HERE.
09:50:33 AS FAR AS THESE ROUNDABOUTS?
09:50:34 LEAVE THEM.
09:50:37 NOT GET A FAIR OAKS, DON'T BRING A ROUNDABOUTS.
09:50:40 IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET A NEW FAIR OAKS, DON'T BRING
09:50:41 THE ROUNDABOUTS.
09:50:46 LEAVE THAT AS IT IS IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE US A
09:50:47 NEW FAIR OAKS.
09:50:50 AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
09:50:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:50:52 WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:50:56 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:50:58 >> GOOD MORNING, JERRY ROBINSON.
09:51:00 I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA PARK.
09:51:05 AND I AM ONE WHO WILL BE IN NEED OF A PLACE TO GO HERE
09:51:06 SHORTLY.
09:51:12 AND I DO KNOW THAT TIME IS NOT IN OUR FAVOR SO I WOULD
09:51:17 JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM GLAD TO KNOW THAT -- THAT WE
09:51:20 HAVE SUPPORT BECAUSE AT ONE POINT I FELT LIKE I WAS
09:51:24 HERE BY MYSELF JUST TRYING TO JUMP OUT AND RUN AND SEE
09:51:28 WHERE I CAN GO, WHAT I CAN HANDLE, WHAT I CAN DO.
09:51:30 BUT NOT JUST MYSELF.
09:51:32 I AM A SINGLE PERSON THERE.
09:51:33 SINGLE RESIDENT.
09:51:37 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AM SURROUNDED BY GOOD NEIGHBORS
09:51:41 AND FAMILIES AND HAVE TO WONDER WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE
09:51:42 LIKE FOR THEM.
09:51:43 IT IS NOT EASY.
09:51:48 AND IT IS NOT A GOOD THOUGHT TO LOOK AT LEAVING THE
09:51:52 COMMUNITY THAT I AM IN OPINION PACK UP AND GO AND FIND
09:51:53 ANOTHER PLACE TO GO.
09:51:56 BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS HARD -- IT IS GOING TO BE HARD FOR
09:51:59 ME AND IT IS REALLY GOING TO BE HARD FOR MY NEIGHBORS
09:52:03 AND THE FAMILIES IN THE AREA.
09:52:06 SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I JUST HOPE
09:52:11 THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP THE
09:52:16 PEOPLE, HELP THE RESIDENTS THERE TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE
09:52:22 TO GO AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT ONCE WE LEAVE
09:52:24 THERE, THINGS CHANGE.
09:52:27 HOW WE PLAY BILLS.
09:52:33 YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR RENT.
09:52:34 THOSE THINGS.
09:52:37 ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE IMPORTANT TO US AND HOW ARE WE
09:52:39 GOING TO COPE WITH THOSE THINGS.
09:52:43 AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I AM GLAD TO HAVE THIS
09:52:46 MOMENT TO HAVE SPOKEN.
09:52:53 AND I DO THINK AND I DO HOPE THAT SOMEONE WILL COME
09:52:58 FORWARD WITH SOME IDEAS, SOME PLANS, AND ASSISTANCE AS
09:53:01 TO HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED AT THIS POINT.
09:53:02 THANK YOU.
09:53:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:53:05 WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:53:06 NEXT, PLEASE.
09:53:07 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:53:10 I AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, THE PASTOR OF TRINITY
09:53:12 AND FAITH MINISTRY.
09:53:15 WE ARE FACING A HEALTH CRISIS HERE IN THE CITY OF
09:53:16 TAMPA.
09:53:22 THE HOUSING IS A BASIC FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT FOR HUMANS.
09:53:26 THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SAFE HAVEN, A PLACE TO LIVE.
09:53:30 WE ARE LOOKING -- WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO YOU DO IS THE
09:53:32 PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT IT.
09:53:34 THE LCC THAT BOUGHT IT, THEY ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE
09:53:38 THIS SAME COUNCIL ASKING FOR ZONING.
09:53:40 THEY ARE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR PERMITS.
09:53:44 YOU NEED TO BE SAYING NO AND GET AHEAD OF THIS THING
09:53:47 AND TELL THEM THAT THEY NEED TO FURNISH RELOCATION
09:53:48 MONEY.
09:53:52 WE NEED TO HAVE EXTENSION ON THE RELOCATION.
09:53:56 WE ALSO -- I AM GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE CRA AND MR.
09:53:59 CARLSON, I AM SORRY YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE MEETING
09:54:04 AND I DID GET YOUR MEETING, JOSEPH CITRO, COUNCILMAN
09:54:07 CITRO, WE ARE GLAD YOU CAME OUT.
09:54:10 $10 MILLION OVER IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY URBAN
09:54:10 DEVELOPMENT.
09:54:14 THIS COUNCIL CAN ASK THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT TO OFFSET
09:54:17 SOME OF THE COSTS OF THE PEOPLE HAVING TO MOVE.
09:54:20 I DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND CONTINUE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS IS
09:54:21 A PRIVATE DEAL.
09:54:26 YES, IT IS A PRIVATE DEAL, BUT IT IS A CITY PROBLEM.
09:54:31 BECAUSE 300-PLUS PEOPLE NOVEMBER 1, WHAT IS GOING TO
09:54:31 HAPPEN?
09:54:33 THEY WILL BE SITTING OUT ON THE STREETS.
09:54:36 DO YOU THINK THEY ARE JUST GOING TO SIT PATIENTLY AND
09:54:38 WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO COME AND SWEEP THEM UP?
09:54:39 NO.
09:54:42 SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING -- AND THIS HAS ALREADY STARTED,
09:54:45 THE MOMENTUM, THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
09:54:46 IT CAN BE DONE.
09:54:50 WE SEE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS -- LIKE A SNAP OF THE FINGER
09:54:54 HAS COME IN TO SUPPORT THE CORONAVIRUS, SO WE KNOW WE
09:54:57 CAN FIND MONEY WHEN WE WANT TO FIND MONEY FOR THE
09:55:00 PROJECT THAT'S WE WANT TO HAVE DONE.
09:55:02 WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO GET AHEAD OF THIS.
09:55:08 LET THEM KNOW NOTHING WILL BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY
09:55:11 UNTIL THEY MAKE SURE THAT EACH AND EVERY PERSON IS
09:55:13 RELOCATED PROPERLY.
09:55:16 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS BEING AFFECTED.
09:55:19 THAT -- NOVEMBER 1 IS THE TIME, THE END OF THE QUARTER
09:55:22 FOR THE KIDS IN SCHOOL.
09:55:22 THEY ARE TESTING.
09:55:26 YOU ARE LOOK AT THANKS GIVING.
09:55:27 YOU ARE LOOKING AT CHRISTMAS.
09:55:31 BUT PEOPLE WITH NOT VOTE IF THEY ARE WORRIED AND OUT
09:55:33 THERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE.
09:55:36 SO WE ARE ASKING THIS COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN, AND
09:55:40 ESPECIALLY THE COUNCILMEN FROM DISTRICT 5 TO PROBABLE
09:55:43 ACTIVE, GET IN FRONT OF -- I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU
09:55:44 LIKE ME OR NOT.
09:55:48 IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU AND I, IT IS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY
09:55:51 AND THE ONLY REASON YOU DON'T LIKE ME BECAUSE I AM
09:55:52 BEING VOCAL.
09:55:55 I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE VOCAL.
09:55:57 I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT.
09:56:02 AND NEED BE, WE WILL WRAP A HUMAN CHAIN AROUND TAMPA
09:56:06 PARK UNTIL EVERY LAST PERSON HAS A SAFE PLACE TO GO.
09:56:10 SO TO THAT END, CITY COUNCIL, LET'S DO OUR JOB AND
09:56:11 PROTECT THE PEOPLE.
09:56:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:56:13 WE APPRECIATE IT.
09:56:15 NEXT PLEASE.
09:56:16 COUNCILMAN.
09:56:18 >>BILL CARLSON: BISHOP PATTY.
09:56:20 YOU SAID 320 PEOPLE.
09:56:25 ISN'T IT 320 FAMILIES AND 1200 PEOPLE?
09:56:25 >> YES.
09:56:27 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE
09:56:30 DISPLACED ON THE WEST BANK?
09:56:33 WASN'T IT A SIMILAR NUMBER, 1,000.
09:56:37 >> TALKING ABOUT --
09:56:38 >>BILL CARLSON: THE BOULEVARD HOMES.
09:56:39 BOULEVARD HOMES.
09:56:43 THE ONES THAT ARE NOW BEING DEVELOPED?
09:56:45 >> ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT.
09:56:47 >>BILL CARLSON: SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK
09:56:50 ABOUT THIS MORE, BUT THAT ONE, THE CITY HAD INFLUENCE
09:56:54 OVER AND NOW THERE ARE HIGH-END HOMES --
09:56:56 >> YOU STILL HAVE INFLUENCE.
09:56:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE, BUT AN
09:57:02 ISSUE IN A HUGE MAGNITUDE THAT HOUSING AUTHORITY CAME
09:57:05 HERE AND SAID A SHORTAGE OF 50,000 PEOPLE AND WE ADDED
09:57:07 1200 MORE TO IT.
09:57:10 >> CORRECT, SIR.
09:57:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, LET ME ADDRESS SOMETHING.
09:57:17 I THANK MR. CARLSON FOR HIS COMMENTS, BUT I HAVE BEEN
09:57:20 BEHIND THE SCENE TALKING TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
09:57:22 COMMISSION ON SOME THINGS THAT HE HAS ALREADY BEEN
09:57:26 WORKING ON IN REFERENCE TO THIS DAY THAT MAY COME.
09:57:28 I ALSO HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH HOUSING TO FIND OUT WHAT
09:57:31 THE ISSUES ARE AND HOW WE CAN HELP.
09:57:33 I DIDN'T GET A PERSONAL PHONE CALL TO COME TO THE
09:57:38 MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT LIKE MR. CITRO AND MR. CARLSON.
09:57:40 I HAD TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN ANOTHER MEETING I WAS AT
09:57:44 RECORDING FDOT AND ALL THE CITIZENS AND THOSE THAT WERE
09:57:46 PRESENCE AT THAT MEETING THAT I HAD TO BE AT.
09:57:49 BUT I DID MAKE THE ATTEMPT AFTER KNOWING ABOUT THAT
09:57:52 MEETING RUSH OVER -- IT WAS BREAKING UP.
09:57:55 BUT I DID GO BY THERE TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS AND
09:57:57 LEADERS KNOW I HAVE THAT A CONCERN.
09:57:59 AND I WAS HERE FOR THEM.
09:58:01 SO LET'S MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT.
09:58:04 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ILL-WILL BETWEEN ME
09:58:05 AND MICHELLE PATTY.
09:58:08 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MISS PATTY, BUT THE FACT OF THE
09:58:11 MATTER IS, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS THING
09:58:11 WORK.
09:58:13 THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WE CAN'T DO.
09:58:15 AND WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
09:58:19 I SAY THAT ON THE DAIS WHAT WE CAN DO.
09:58:21 I AM GOING TO GET IN FRONT OF IF -- AND I HAVE BEEN IN
09:58:24 FRONT OF IT AND MAKE THIS CLEAR AND THIS BOARD KNOW
09:58:24 THAT'S.
09:58:27 AND IT IS MY DISTRICT AND I WORK HARD FOR MICE
09:58:27 DISTRICT.
09:58:31 AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK HARD FOR MY DISTRICT AND WE
09:58:33 WILL BE IN FRONT OF IN MISS PATTY.
09:58:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY.
09:58:37 >> JENEL LAVAR SCOTT.
09:58:43 I AM A MILITARY VETERAN'S SON -- WHO ABANDONED -- I MET
09:58:44 HIM THREE DAYS AGO.
09:58:46 I MET HIM ON FACEBOOK.
09:58:50 TO GIVE YOU UNDERSTANDING, YOU HAVE BEEN GOING FOR
09:58:51 ALMOST 30 MINUTES.
09:58:55 ONE OF GOING ALMOST 30 MINUTES WHILE THESE PEOPLE WERE
09:58:57 BRINGING CONCERN TO THE COUNCIL.
09:59:00 I HAVE GOT A VIDEO RECORDING OF YOU GUYS GIVING NOT ANY
09:59:03 ATTENTION BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO LOOK A MAN IN A EYE
09:59:05 WHEN THEY ARE TALKING.
09:59:08 Y'ALL SHOW NOTHING BUT COMPLETE DISRESPECT FOR EVERY
09:59:10 ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT TALK.
09:59:12 AND GOD SENT ME TO THIS NATION.
09:59:16 BORN AND RAISED HERE ON THE 23RD DAY, THE NINTH MONTH
09:59:19 AND THE 83 YEAR.
09:59:27 I AM THAT WATCHMAN, THE EZEKIEL WATCHMAN TO COME TO MY
09:59:30 PEOPLE TO WAKE UP AGAINST THE DIVERSE SPIRITS THAT ARE
09:59:31 BEFORE US.
09:59:33 WICKED AND UNCLEAN SPIRITS BEFORE US.
09:59:37 YOU GUYS HAVE NO CARE TO DO NOTHING FOR THESE PEOPLE TO
09:59:38 TALK ABOUT.
09:59:41 I GOT THE SERMON OF SPIRITS.
09:59:44 I KNOW WHAT IS IN EACH ONE OF YOUR HEARTS, NOTHING BUT
09:59:46 DISCORD, LIES AND DECEIT.
09:59:48 NOTHING BUT THAT.
09:59:50 YOU PLAN TO KILL BLACK PEOPLE.
09:59:53 ASK THE LORD OF HOSTS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT IT.
09:59:55 YOU GOT A PLAN TO KILL US BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING FOR
09:59:58 US.
10:00:04 JUST FEEL'S LIKE Y'ALL YOUR NUMBER SIX TO A NINE.
10:00:09 SIX SCRIPTURES TO THE FIRST SOLOMON, BLESS OF THE
10:00:14 UNGODLY STAND IN THE WAY OF SINNERS AND SIT IN THE SEAT
10:00:16 OF THE SCORNFUL BUT IN DELIGHT OF THE LAW OF THE LORD.
10:00:19 AND IN HIS LAW, HE MEDITATE DAY AND NIGHT AND HE SHALL
10:00:24 BE LIKE -- OF THE RIVER OF WATERS AND THROUGH HIS
10:00:24 SEASON.
10:00:26 IT IS Y'ALL SEASON TO BE UP.
10:00:29 I AM JUST LETTING YOU KNOW AND FOR WHATEVER HE DO SHALL
10:00:29 PROSPER.
10:00:31 YOU DON'T LIKE THE WORD "ACCOUNTABILITY."
10:00:35 ACCOUNTABILITY MEANS TAKING AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR
10:00:36 ONE'S ACTION.
10:00:42 YOU KNOW KIRBY RAINSBERG IS A LOUSY LEGAL ATTORNEY
10:00:44 BECAUSE I HAVE ISSUE HE HAS NOT CALLED ME BACK FOR
10:00:46 SEVERAL DAYS.
10:00:51 ISSUES HE HAS NEVER E-MAILED ME BACK FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
10:00:54 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS YET TO GET
10:00:58 BACK WITH ME ABOUT A SCAR ON MY RIGHT SHOULDER THAT
10:01:00 THEY SOUGHT TO DO.
10:01:05 THAT THEY SOUGHT TO PULL MY PANTS DOWN AND GO INTO MY
10:01:06 ANAL.
10:01:08 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT ARE
10:01:08 TRUE?
10:01:11 ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST LIKE I AM?
10:01:14 WHERE IS YOUR REFERENCE AND RESPECT TOWARD ANYTHING
10:01:16 BESIDES YOURSELF!
10:01:18 THE LORD OF HOSTS SAID IT BEFORE.
10:01:21 HE IS GOING TO WIPE Y'ALL CLEAN.
10:01:25 HE SAID ALL OF ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED.
10:01:32 NOT BUN OF IS WORD -- I SPEAK FOR THE BLACK PEOPLE.
10:01:35 I AIN'T --
10:01:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:01:39 THANK YOU, PLEASE.
10:01:42 >> IF KIRBY RAINSBERG IS --
10:01:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR TIME UP.
10:01:46 >> YEAH, YOUR TIME IS UP TOO.
10:01:47 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT PLEASE.
10:01:53 >> GOOD MORNING GERALDINE ROGERS.
10:01:56 TO DISCUSS CONCERNS OF THE 34TH STREET ROAD IMPROVEMENT
10:01:59 PROJECT AND POTENTIAL OF ROUNDABOUTS HAVING A NEGATIVE
10:02:00 IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
10:02:03 ALSO, THERE IS A DISPARITY IN HOW THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:02:08 DETERMINE ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR CERTAIN
10:02:08 COMMUNITIES.
10:02:13 THE MOST DANGEROUS ROADS DOCUMENTED BY THE MPO BOARD
10:02:16 DID INCLUDE 34TH STREET; HOWEVER, THE MOST EXTREME
10:02:20 MEASURES ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM
10:02:22 THAT MIGHT NOT EXIST.
10:02:28 HAS ANY ROAD STUDY CRASH REPORTS BEEN ON 34TH STREET
10:02:30 SINCE 2011?
10:02:33 IF SO, WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF THE STUDIES?
10:02:37 IT IS A KNOWN FACT THAT 34TH STREET IS NOT ONE OF THE
10:02:40 MOST DANGEROUS ROADS IN TAMPA.
10:02:45 STUDIES HAVE SHOWN 30% INCREASES IN ACCIDENTS AT ROUNDS
10:02:45 ABOUT.
10:02:48 WHICH CREATE A HEALTH AND SAFETY PROBLEM FOR OUR
10:02:50 COMMUNITY.
10:02:55 IN MY OPINION, EXPOSING YOUNG CHILDREN TO THIS COMPLEX
10:02:58 ROAD DESIGN IS NEGLIGENT.
10:03:01 PEOPLE IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN METROPOLITAN AREA CALL
10:03:05 ROUNDABOUTS "DEATH TRAPS."
10:03:09 THE EAST TAMPA AREA APPEARS TO BE BEARING THE BURDEN OF
10:03:12 ROUNDABOUTS BEING INSTALLED.
10:03:16 OF THE 27 ROUNDABOUTS AND CIRCLES ON PUBLIC ROADS IN
10:03:21 TAMPA, OVER 40% OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICT 5.
10:03:22 WITH NO MORE TO COME.
10:03:25 YOU KNOW TEN OF THEM ARE ON PRIVATE ROADS, RIGHT?
10:03:29 A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF ROUNDABOUTS ARE BEING
10:03:30 INSTALLED IN EAST TAMPA.
10:03:33 YOUR APPROACH IN ADDRESSING TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS
10:03:34 APPEARS TO BE BIASED.
10:03:37 ENSURING PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE NUMBER ONE
10:03:39 PRIORITY.
10:03:42 YOU ALLOW THE CHANNEL DRIVE COMMUNITY TO HAVE
10:03:46 CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OPTIONS FOR SAFETY MEASURES.
10:03:51 NEITHER WERE ROUNDABOUTS INSTALLED ON THE HIMES AVENUE
10:03:54 PROJECT OR PLANT STREET ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
10:03:59 WE DESERVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY TO BE GIVEN OPTIONS ON
10:04:03 SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE 34TH STREET CORRIDOR.
10:04:07 AGAIN, CITIZENS SHOULD BE THE PARAMOUNT CONCERN.
10:04:10 THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THE TRACK A PERSON LIVE ON
10:04:11 SHOULDN'T MATTER.
10:04:13 ALL HUMAN LIFE HAS VALUE.
10:04:13 THAT IS IMPORTANT.
10:04:16 I FORGET THAT ARTICLE IN THE PAPER WHERE ONE OF YOU
10:04:19 MADE A REFERENCE TO BAYSHORE.
10:04:22 ROUNDABOUTS ARE PERCEIVED TO BE A SOLUTION TO TRAFFIC
10:04:26 PROBLEMS ON 34TH STREET; HOWEVER, IT IS JUST LIKE
10:04:27 TAKING MEDICINE.
10:04:31 MEDICATION IS TAKEN TO ADDRESS ONE CONDITION, BUT
10:04:35 OFTENTIMES SIDE EFFECTS FROM THE MEDICATION CREATES
10:04:36 ANOTHER PROBLEM.
10:04:37 I PRAY.
10:04:38 I REALLY DO.
10:04:40 I PRAY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH THE 34TH STREET
10:04:41 ROUNDABOUTS.
10:04:43 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
10:04:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:04:45 WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:04:47 NEXT, PLEASE.
10:04:50 AND IS THIS INDIVIDUAL TO BE THE LAST PERSON FOR PUBLIC
10:04:50 COMMENT?
10:04:51 OKAY.
10:04:53 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:04:55 >> GOOD MORNING, LINDA AKEN.
10:04:59 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
10:05:03 PROPOSAL ABOUT PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
10:05:07 IT IS -- IT IS MY HOPE THAT THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND
10:05:11 LAWS ON THE BOOKS CAN BE ENFORCED TO MAKE TAMPA A SAFER
10:05:12 FLIES PARK.
10:05:16 I PERSONALLY LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND CONFRONT ON A
10:05:20 DAILY BASIS PEOPLE PARKED ILLEGALLY TOO CLOSE TO
10:05:22 DRIVEWAYS, IN INTERSECTIONS, TOO CLOSE TO THE
10:05:29 INTERSECTIONS NEXT TO STOP SIGNS AND MARKED "NO
10:05:31 PARKING" ZONES.
10:05:37 AND THE IDEA OF TAKING POLICE COVERAGE AWAY TO ENFORCE
10:05:40 PARKING REGULATION THAT'S I AM PRETTY SURE PEOPLE ARE
10:05:43 WELL AWARE OF BECAUSE MOST OF THEM I AM GUESSING HAS
10:05:47 TAKEN DRIVER LICENSE CLASSES AND NEEDED TO GET YOUR
10:05:50 DRIVER LICENSES, BUT IT CREATES A DANGEROUS SITUATION
10:05:53 FORCING DRIVERS TO PULL INTO INTERSECTIONS TO BE ABLE
10:05:56 TO SEE IF THEY CAN PULL INTO INTERSECTIONS.
10:06:01 SO IT PUTS OTHER DRIVERS, PEDESTRIANS, AND BICYCLISTS
10:06:02 AT RISK.
10:06:06 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN -- IN FOR OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
10:06:12 PROPOSAL TO EXPAND PARKING REGULATION ENFORCEMENT.
10:06:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:06:15 WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:06:16 OKAY.
10:06:18 ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR
10:06:21 RECONSIDERATION OF ANY LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:06:25 OKAY, MOVING NONE, COMMITTEE REPORTS, CONSENT AGENDA
10:06:27 ITEMS.
10:06:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO, PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:06:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:06:35 MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 4-7.
10:06:36 >> SECOND.
10:06:40 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO,
10:06:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:06:43 ANY OPPOSED.
10:06:48 NEXT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS.
10:06:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 8-12 -- 14, SORRY.
10:06:53 8-14.
10:06:57 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY
10:06:59 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:07:03 ANY OPPOSED.
10:07:04 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:07:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE 15-23.
10:07:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:07:10 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:07:11 SECT BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:12 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:07:14 ANY OPPOSED.
10:07:16 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:17 24-28.
10:07:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 24-28.
10:07:21 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:23 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:07:25 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:07:26 ANY OPPOSED.
10:07:27 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:07:30 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM 29-40.
10:07:32 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:07:33 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:34 ANY IN FAVOR?
10:07:36 OPPOSED?
10:07:43 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, OMITTING 41 AND 46.
10:07:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 42-45 AND 47-48.
10:07:50 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:07:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:53 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:07:54 ANY OPPOSED?
10:07:55 OKAY.
10:07:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR HOUSEKEEPING PURPOSES,
10:08:02 CONTINUE EYE THEM IN NUMBER 41 IF STAFF HAS NO
10:08:04 OBJECTION UNTIL 3/19.
10:08:07 >>LUIS VIERA: WE ALREADY DID THAT ON YOUR BEHALF.
10:08:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:08:13 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION FOR 49.
10:08:16 >> THE REVIEW HEARINGS FOR 49 AND 50.
10:08:18 BOTH FOR MAY 7 AT 10:30.
10:08:21 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
10:08:25 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:08:26 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:08:27 ANYONE OPPOSED.
10:08:28 10:06 HERE.
10:08:31 YOU KNOW, LET'S.
10:08:37 LET'S GO AHEAD -- MR. SHELBY, QUESTION, IF I OPEN UP
10:08:42 PUBLIC HEARINGS, MAY I AT 10:30 CLOSE SAID PUBLIC
10:08:45 HEARINGS I GUESS FOR STAFF REPORTS?
10:08:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN OPEN YOUR 9:30 PUBLIC
10:08:48 HEARINGS.
10:08:51 DO THE SECOND READS AND GET TO THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO
10:08:54 CUT INTO THE 10:30 SUSPEND THAT.
10:08:55 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT.
10:08:58 MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30.
10:09:01 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
10:09:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:09:04 ANYONE OPPOSED?
10:09:06 MOVE TO ITEM 51.
10:09:07 I AM SO SORRY.
10:09:09 I ALWAYS FORGET THIS.
10:09:12 SPEAKING ON QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM.
10:09:17 STAND IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO AND BE PREPARED TO SWORN
10:09:18 IN.
10:09:34 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
10:09:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, I GOT TO SPEND MORE TIME IN
10:09:37 MIAMI.
10:09:41 ITEM 51.
10:09:43 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:09:45 CATE WELLS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE.
10:09:49 ITEM 51 SECOND READING OF ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE
10:09:50 APPROVED FEBRUARY 6.
10:09:53 IT DEALS WITH THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS FOR NONMOTORIZED
10:09:56 VEHICLES AS WELL AS OTHER LARGER VEHICLES LIKE
10:09:58 RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.
10:10:00 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:10:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:10:01 OKAY.
10:10:02 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:10:05 ANYONE ELSE FOR ITEM 51?
10:10:06 YES, SIR.
10:10:07 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:10:08 STEVE MICHELLINI.
10:10:13 WHEN THIS ISSUE FIRST CAME UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I
10:10:17 WAS ASKED TO DO SOME RESEARCH REGARDING THE WIDTH OF
10:10:21 MOTORIZED VEHICLES COVERED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE AND I
10:10:24 PROVIDED A LIST OF OVER 50 PASSENGER VEHICLES AND
10:10:30 TRUCKS LIKE FORD F-150S, SILVERADOS AND RAM THAT'S WILL
10:10:32 BECOME ILLEGAL TO BE PARKED ON THE STREET.
10:10:35 AND I ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE
10:10:40 SO IT WAS NOT 80 INCHES BUT SOMETHING RATHER TO 85
10:10:43 INCHES HERE IS MY CONCERN.
10:10:47 IS THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL GO OUT IF A NEIGHBOR
10:10:49 COMPLAINS OF ANOTHER NEIGHBOR PARKING ON THE STREET AND
10:10:52 SUDDENLY THEY GET A CITATION AND THEY END UP IN CODE
10:10:55 ENFORCEMENT AND TAKES MONTHS TO GET OUT OF THAT.
10:10:59 THEY WILL BE CITED IF YOU PASS THIS WITH AN 80-INCH
10:11:00 REQUIREMENT.
10:11:04 LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS ADVISED ME THAT 80 INCHES IS
10:11:06 ALREADY IN THE CODE AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ADDRESS IT
10:11:07 AT THIS TIME.
10:11:10 I DID PROVIDE THEM WITH THE ACCESS TO THE NATIONAL
10:11:12 MOTOR VEHICLE DIMENSIONS.
10:11:18 AN ACCESS THAT YOU CAN GO TO I WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE
10:11:21 YOU THE LIST BUT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE TOYOTAS, FORDS,
10:11:24 MERCEDES, BMW, JAGUAR.
10:11:27 I STOPPED AFTER 50.
10:11:29 JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS CORRECT TO GO
10:11:33 FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT BANNED ALL THESE
10:11:35 PASSENGER VEHICLES AND SMALL VEHICLE TRUCKS TO MAKE
10:11:38 THEM ILLEGAL AND SUBJECT TO CITATION.
10:11:43 SO I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE ORDINANCE IS BAD IN ITSELF
10:11:46 BUT THE DIMENSION OF THE WIDTH OF VEHICLE SHOULD BE
10:11:51 ADDRESSED AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE LEGAL
10:11:52 DEPARTMENT DO THAT.
10:11:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:11:54 ANYONE ELSE.
10:11:57 >> GOOD MORNING, MIKE PETERSON, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
10:12:01 COUNSEL FOR THE TAMPA REALTORS.
10:12:03 WE SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ARE PUTTING FORWARD.
10:12:07 I MUST SAY WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE TIME YOU DECIDE TO ADD
10:12:12 IN OVERSIZED VEHICLES THAT YOU WERE INDEED USING A
10:12:13 STANDARD THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
10:12:17 SO I KNOW THAT WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY AWARE IT IS A
10:12:20 PROBLEM AS MR. MICHELLINI WAS RAISED FOR YOU.
10:12:23 WE CLEARLY WERE CONCERNED OF TRULY OVERSIZED VEHICLES
10:12:28 WHETHER IT BE WINNEBAGOS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:12:32 IF YOU WANT TO TWEAK THE WIDTH STANDARD A LITTLE BIT WE
10:12:34 DON'T HAVE PROBLEM OF THAT.
10:12:36 BUT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROBLEM WE HAD WITH THESE
10:12:40 TRAILERS AND OR OVERSIZED VEHICLES CLOGGING UP THE
10:12:41 STREETS OF MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:12:44 WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR EFFORT BUT CERTAINLY DON'T
10:12:47 OPPOSE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MICHELLINI RAISED.
10:12:47 THANK YOU.
10:12:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:49 OF COURSE YOU MAY.
10:12:51 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:12:55 ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 51?
10:12:57 MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:13:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION OF MR. MICHELLINI.
10:13:08 MR. MICHELLINI, APPRECIATE YOU LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE
10:13:11 NOTHING IN FOR YOU AND LOOKING FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
10:13:14 I PULLED UP MY F-250.
10:13:18 I GOOGLED IT UP AND SAID IT WAS 78 INCHES WIDE.
10:13:22 WITH THE MIRRORS IT IS WIDER BUT THE BODY IS 78 INCHES
10:13:26 AND I PULLED UP A DODGE PICKUP AND SAID 79 AND A HALF
10:13:27 INCHES.
10:13:29 AGAIN WITH THE MIRRORS.
10:13:30 IT IS WIDER.
10:13:32 SO I DON'T KNOW.
10:13:35 I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND WE DON'T WANT -- WE
10:13:39 DON'T WANT TO PASS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD PUT
10:13:43 STANDARD VEHICLES YOU KNOW AT JEOPARDY, BUT I WONDER IF
10:13:46 THEY INCLUDED MIRRORS.
10:13:48 >> ON THE DIMENSIONS THAT I HAD, IT WAS THE BODY OF
10:13:53 VEHICLES SO THAT YOU HAD, LIKE, A LARGER SUVS,
10:13:57 NAVIGATORS OR THINGS LIKE THAT IN EXCESS OF 80 INCHES.
10:14:01 THE ONLY CONCERN IS, WHEN YOU GET TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:14:04 AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THAT -- IN THAT
10:14:08 SEAT, IT IS UP TO THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE
10:14:11 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO SAY, OKAY, I THINK THIS IS 80
10:14:13 INCHES.
10:14:16 TAKE OUT A SCALE -- TAKE OUT A MEASURING TAPE AND SAYS
10:14:18 IT 80 INCHES.
10:14:21 NOTHING IN THAT DEFINITION THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE
10:14:21 MIRRORS.
10:14:25 I AM NOT TRYING TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH
10:14:27 WATER, BUT PERHAPS GOING FORWARD, YOU CAN ASK TO HAVE
10:14:31 IT AMENDED SO THERE IS A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT
10:14:32 WIDTH MEANS.
10:14:34 DOES IT MEAN INCLUDING THE MIRRORS?
10:14:36 DOES IT INCLUDE NOT THE MIRRORS.
10:14:40 AND I JUST THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED A LITTLE
10:14:41 MORE CLOSELY.
10:14:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:14:44 >> JUST BECAUSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINTS.
10:14:47 YOU GET NEIGHBORS WHO GET UPSET, AND THEY START CALLING
10:14:47 IN.
10:14:51 AND YOU END UP IN A SIX-MONTH PROCESS TO GET IT
10:14:52 STRAIGHTENED OUT.
10:14:55 AND AGAIN I DON'T HAVE A CLIENT IN THIS REGARD.
10:14:58 I JUST THOUGHT THAT THE DIMENSION WAS WRONG.
10:15:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
10:15:05 THINK THERE IS ANY URGENCY TO THIS PARTICULAR
10:15:07 ORDINANCE.
10:15:10 IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I
10:15:13 APPRECIATE MR. CARLSON BRINGING IT FORWARD.
10:15:16 I THINK PERHAPS WE CAN DEFER IT FOR TWO WEEKS TO LOOK
10:15:20 AT THIS ISSUE AND EXPLORE THE SPECIFICATIONS OF VARIOUS
10:15:25 TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT MR. MICHELLINI HAS POINTED OUT.
10:15:29 AND I AM SURE LEGAL OR STAFF, YOU KNOW, COULD REVISIT
10:15:36 THAT AND BRING IT BACK IN TWO WEEKS UNLESS HIS DOWD
10:15:37 SEES --
10:15:40 >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION THIS IS NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT
10:15:43 BUT TICKET BY TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:15:46 IT IS NOT A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
10:15:51 THE 80 INCHES THAT MR. MICHELLINI SAID IT IS ALWAYS IN
10:15:53 THE CODE AND WE ARE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THAT NUMBER.
10:15:56 REFERRING TO THE DEFINITION OF STATUE OF MOTOR VEHICLE
10:15:59 TO CAPTURE THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES THAT COUNCIL HAD
10:16:00 EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT.
10:16:02 IF YOU WERE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER, I WOULD ASK
10:16:06 FOR A FOUR-WEEK CONTINUANCE BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF
10:16:10 WORK TO TURN SOMETHING AROUND IN TWO WEEKS IS IN A
10:16:11 CHALLENGE, THANK YOU.
10:16:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS MR. CARLSON HAS ANY
10:16:16 SIGNIFICANT OAKS TO FOUR WEEKS AS INDICATED BY COUNCIL,
10:16:20 I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS FOUR WEEKS.
10:16:23 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFOREHAND, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WANTS TO
10:16:23 SPEAK.
10:16:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING
10:16:30 THAT MR. DINGFELDER BROUGHT UP.
10:16:32 AND YOU WANT 30 DAYS AT LEAST.
10:16:35 >> AT LEAST, THANK YOU.
10:16:38 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU AMENDABLE?
10:16:40 >> WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC MULTIPLE MEETINGS TO
10:16:41 ASK FOR THIS.
10:16:45 BASED ON THE LEGAL OPINION, I DON'T SEE WHY WE HAVE TO
10:16:49 -- SEEM LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE APPLICABLE.
10:16:52 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO STUDY IF IT IS THE SAME AMOUNT IT
10:16:53 HAS ALWAYS BEEN.
10:16:55 ISN'T THAT A SEPARATE ISSUE WE SHOULD ADDRESS?
10:16:58 WE WOULD BE GOING BACK SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE
10:16:59 PREVIOUSLY.
10:17:02 THIS IS JUST REFERRING TO CERTAIN KINDS OF VEHICLES.
10:17:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS I WOULD ADD TO MY MOTION WE
10:17:10 REVISIT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE AS WELL WITH REGARD TO
10:17:12 THAT 80-INCH MEASUREMENT.
10:17:17 A MONTH FROM NOW LEGAL STAFF WILL SAY 80 INCHES IS THE
10:17:19 STANDARD AND WE LOOKED AT THE VARIOUS SPECIFICATIONS
10:17:23 AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND WE ARE STILL RECOMMEND 80
10:17:24 INCHES.
10:17:29 BUT I THINK INSTEAD OF PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS
10:17:33 THAT MIGHT BE WRONG AND REVISITING IT WITH AN AMENDMENT
10:17:38 AT A LATER DATE, I WOULD RATHER WAIT A MONTH.
10:17:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE.
10:17:41 YES, SIR?
10:17:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT THE LAST SPEAKER OF PUBLIC
10:17:45 COMMENT.
10:17:47 DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK OF THE PUBLIC HEARING?
10:17:49 I WASN'T CLEAR.
10:17:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM 51 TO SPEAK?
10:17:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, SOMETHING THAT IS
10:17:58 OUTSIDE 30 DAYS WOULD BE THE APRIL 2 MEETING, BUT YOU
10:18:00 HAVE THE APRIL 16 MEETING.
10:18:04 IF YOU NEED -- IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONTINUED TO A
10:18:05 SPECIFIC DATE AND TIME.
10:18:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, IT WOULD BE.
10:18:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APRIL 2.
10:18:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
10:18:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APRIL 2 AT 9:30.
10:18:20 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION -- AND COUNCILMAN GUDES HAVE
10:18:21 SECONDED THAT.
10:18:24 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND SECOND BY
10:18:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:18:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:18:28 ANY OPPOSED?
10:18:30 OKAY.
10:18:35 ITEM 52.
10:18:41 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING
10:18:43 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:18:48 THEY HAVE BEEN CORRECTED AND SENT IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE
10:18:50 AND EUCLIDIAN.
10:18:51 NO SITE PLAN TO BE TURNED IN.
10:18:53 CORRECTIONS VIDEO BEEN MADE FOR THE STAFF REPORT AND
10:18:56 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE?
10:18:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:18:58 ANY QUESTIONS.
10:18:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:03 ANYONE HERE FOR 52?
10:19:07 >> WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:19:10 REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER FOR ITEM 52.
10:19:15 I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR PATIENCE AND TO
10:19:16 THE FINISH LINE ON THIS ONE.
10:19:19 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:19:20 >> NO, NONE.
10:19:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:19:26 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52?
10:19:28 MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:19:29 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:19:32 ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.
10:19:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WILL YOU TAKE ITEM 52.
10:19:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
10:19:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ON ITEM 52?
10:19:41 NOBODY?
10:19:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:19:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES IN REGARD FILE NO. REZ 19-66,
10:19:51 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:19:57 ORDINANCE OF GENERAL VICINITY OF 110 AND 112 SOUTH
10:20:02 WILLOW AVENUE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RM-4, RESIDENTIAL
10:20:08 MULTIFAMILY TO PD RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDED AN
10:20:09 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:20:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND
10:20:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --
10:20:18 >>LUIS VIERA: APOLOGIZE.
10:20:27 VOICE.
10:20:33 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:20:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO
10:20:36 MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:20:40 AND I JUST WANT WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, SHOUT OUT TO
10:20:45 THE PROPERTY OWNER/DEVELOPER AND THIS COUNCIL FOR
10:20:49 WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL
10:20:51 AS COUNCILMAN ON OUR CONCERNS.
10:20:54 AND TWEAKING THIS TO BE THE BEST POSSIBLE PROJECT IT
10:20:54 CAN BE.
10:20:58 AND WE WISH YOU LUCK ON THAT.
10:20:59 I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:21:01 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:21:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:21:04 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:21:06 ANY OPPOSED?
10:21:06 OKAY.
10:21:19 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 53.
10:21:20 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:21:25 MY NAME IS MARIA GARCIA AND REPRESENT BUILDING YORK.
10:21:28 AS RECOMMENDED BY COUNCIL, MR. YORK MET WITH THE OWNER
10:21:32 HAVING THE ISSUE WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, AND ALL HIS
10:21:35 -- ALL HIS CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED.
10:21:41 AND FOR MR. GALLARD, 4311 WEST VIRGINIA, AND HIS
10:21:47 CONCERN CONTINUES TO BE WITH NORTH COOLIDGE -- NORTH
10:21:48 MANHATTAN.
10:21:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:21:50 ANYTHING RIGHT.
10:21:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON NORTH COOLIDGE A LOT OF SEMI
10:21:57 TRAILER DEPOT WHERE YOU PARK OVERNIGHT.
10:21:59 WHEN IT IS FULL, THEY PARK ON STREET.
10:22:02 I SEE THAT EVERY DAY WHEN I AM COMING IN FROM OLDSMAR.
10:22:03 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAYING.
10:22:04 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10:22:06 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:22:07 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:22:11 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAK ON ITEM 53?
10:22:14 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:22:16 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:22:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:22:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:22:22 OPPOSED.
10:22:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:22:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-102, REZONING IN
10:22:36 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 43134 NORTH MANHATTAN AVENUE IN
10:22:38 THE CITY TAMPA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:22:43 SECTION 1 ARE ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG TO CI
10:22:45 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:22:47 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY
10:22:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:22:53 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:23:00 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH -- BE A DENT.
10:23:01 >>LUIS VIERA: 54.
10:23:05 CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL HORNER, NORTH DALE
10:23:13 MABRY HIGHWAY REPRESENTING WESTIN HOTEL AND APPRECIATE
10:23:14 STAFF AND PRIOR APPROVAL.
10:23:15 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:23:17 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC FOR ITEM 54.
10:23:19 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
10:23:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:23:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:23:26 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY
10:23:26 MANISCALCO.
10:23:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND
10:23:33 READING FOR PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 7627
10:23:39 WEST COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY AND ZONING
10:23:44 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HOTEL AND CG TO
10:23:47 HOTEL RESTAURANT AND ALL CG USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:23:48 DATE.
10:23:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:23:50 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, A
10:23:53 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:24:01 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:24:07 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES.
10:24:10 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD.
10:24:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE TO MOVE.
10:24:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:24:16 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:24:18 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:24:19 SIR?
10:24:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOUR FOR KEEPING US INFORMED.
10:24:25 MANY THAT SAY PARKING LOTS -- PARKING GARAGES CANNOT BE
10:24:29 CONVERTED INTO LIVABLE SPACES, AND THIS IS GOING TO
10:24:31 PROVE THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT.
10:24:34 PLEASE KEEP US INFORMED ON THIS.
10:24:35 >> WILL DO, SIR.
10:24:39 >>LUIS VIERA: 55.
10:24:43 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION.
10:24:47 ANY OPPOSED?
10:24:54 MORNING, DAVID LAMB FOR KIMLEY-HORN ASSOCIATE.
10:24:59 I'M HERE TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF FILE NO. REZ
10:25:01 19-106.
10:25:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:25:04 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON 55.
10:25:06 A MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:25:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
10:25:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:25:10 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:25:12 ANY OPPOSED?
10:25:15 COUNCILMAN CITRO, TAKE THIS ITEM.
10:25:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 55, CORRECT.
10:25:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:25:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION IN THE
10:25:27 GENERAL VICINITY OF 612 NORTH DALE MABRY IN THE CITY OF
10:25:31 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:25:36 SECTION 1 PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESTAURANT TO PD
10:25:39 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALL CG USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:25:40 DATE.
10:25:44 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY
10:25:45 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:25:50 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:25:52 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:25:53 >>LUIS VIERA: 56.
10:26:02 ANYONE HERE FOR 56?
10:26:07 >> REQUESTING REZONING REZ 19-111.
10:26:10 I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE
10:26:13 APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.
10:26:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:26:15 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:26:15 OKAY.
10:26:17 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:26:20 ANYONE ON ITEM 56.
10:26:21 IF SO, MOVE FORWARD.
10:26:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CLOSE.
10:26:26 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
10:26:27 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:26:28 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:26:30 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, TAKE THIS ITEM.
10:26:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 56, REZ 19-111.
10:26:41 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING REZONING PROPERTY IN
10:26:45 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1210 WEST LINEBAUGH AVENUE IN
10:26:48 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:26:52 SECTION 1 ARE ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50, TO
10:26:56 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS OFFICE
10:26:58 PROVIDING AN FICTIVE DATE.
10:27:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:27:02 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:05 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:27:07 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:11 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRYINGS UNANIMOUSLY.
10:27:13 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM 57?
10:27:17 ANYONE HERE FOR 57?
10:27:22 >> GOOD MORNING RYAN MCCAFFREY WEST LEMON STREET TAMPA,
10:27:23 FLORIDA.
10:27:25 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND OWNER.
10:27:28 I JUST WANT TO DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE CHANGES
10:27:30 THAT WERE REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
10:27:34 THE AREA IN GREEN REPRESENTS THE LIMITS TO PLACES WHERE
10:27:42 THE DAY CARE CAN OPERATE WITH ITS PLAY FACILITIES.
10:27:46 THE AREA WITH THE RED LINE WILL BE THE FENCE AND SO ALL
10:27:50 THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO PLACE PLAYGROUND FACILITIES
10:27:57 ON THIS SITE WILL BE FURTHER AWAY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
10:27:58 WE APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL.
10:28:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:28:01 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:28:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:02 WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:28:04 ITEM 57?
10:28:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:28:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:28:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY
10:28:14 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:28:17 TAKE THIS COUNCILMAN.
10:28:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GUDES AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
10:28:24 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY 6460 TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD IN
10:28:27 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:28:29 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:28:33 CLASSIFICATION CU COMMUNITY UNIT TO PD PLANNED
10:28:36 DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND DAYCARE.
10:28:39 PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:28:41 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:28:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO SECOND IS THE
10:28:43 MOTION.
10:28:48 THE LAST TIME WE HEARD THIS AT FIRST READING, I VOTED
10:28:49 AGAINST IT.
10:28:52 I WAS CONCERNED OF THE NEIGHBORS' OBJECTIONS ESPECIALLY
10:28:55 WHEN IT RELATED TO NOISE AND TRAFFIC, BUT IT APPEARS
10:28:59 LOOKING AT THE REVISED SITE PLAN THAT THE TRAFFIC IS --
10:29:01 WILL BE LIMITED BUT SPECIFICALLY NOW THAT THEY HAVE
10:29:05 IDENTIFIED IN THE GREEN BOX THAT ALL THIS ACTIVITY WILL
10:29:09 BE ON THE SIDE THAT IS AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS, I WILL
10:29:10 SUPPORT THE MOTION.
10:29:12 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.
10:29:14 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:29:15 DID YOU SECOND THAT?
10:29:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:29:22 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:29:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND VIERA VOTING
10:29:25 NO.
10:29:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:32 EYE THEM IN NUMBER 58 -- ITEM NUMBER 58.
10:29:34 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:29:38 >> JAKE KRAMER WITH STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER, EAST
10:29:41 JACKSON STREET REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
10:29:42 REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
10:29:46 WE MET WITH THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:29:49 AND YOU DIRECTED YOU AND HAD GOOD CONVERSATION AND
10:29:53 LISTENED TO THEIR CONCERNS AND WORKED THROUGH THEM AND
10:29:56 THEY LET ME KNOW A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THEY ARE NOT
10:29:58 OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.
10:29:59 ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:30:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:30:03 GO YOU AHEAD, SIR.
10:30:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. KRAMER, I HOPE YOU WERE NOT
10:30:08 PICKED UPON REQUESTING THAT YOU MEET WITH THE
10:30:08 NEIGHBORS.
10:30:12 WE ENCOURAGE ALL DEVELOPERS TO MEET WITH THE
10:30:16 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OVER AND ABOVE SENDING THEM
10:30:19 NOTICE ON A PROJECT THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME IMPACT.
10:30:22 >> I HAVE TO ADMIT THE FAULT WAS MINE.
10:30:24 NORMALLY I DO REACH OUT TO THEM ON THE OWN.
10:30:27 I WAS CONFUSED AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS AN
10:30:28 ASSOCIATION AND AN ALLIANCE.
10:30:30 SO WE MET WITH THEM.
10:30:31 AND I KNOW FOR NEXT TIME.
10:30:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:30:34 THANK YOU.
10:30:36 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:30:37 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:30:40 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 58.
10:30:43 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY
10:30:44 CITRO.
10:30:45 ANY OPPOSED?
10:30:48 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, TAKE THIS ONE.
10:30:52 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NO. REZ 20-7.
10:30:57 ADOPTION ORDINANCE IN SECOND READING 302 AND 306 NORTH
10:31:00 HOWARD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:31:03 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
10:31:07 DISTRICT C G COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED
10:31:11 DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED, MEDICAL OFFICE.
10:31:14 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:31:21 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:31:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:28 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM 59.
10:31:32 NOT THINK IN ONE WILL GO AS SPEEDY AS THE PRIOR ONE.
10:31:35 WE WILL MOVE AND GO FOR 12:30.
10:31:36 59.
10:31:40 >> JAKE KRAMER FOR STEARNS, WEAVER AND MILLER.
10:31:43 HERE FOR MY PARTNER.
10:31:45 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:31:48 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59?
10:31:51 A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:31:53 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:31:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:31:58 ANY OPPOSED IN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, TAKE THIS ONE,
10:31:59 SIR.
10:32:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, REZ 20-08.
10:32:08 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2525 NORTH DALE MABRY
10:32:11 HIGHWAY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
10:32:14 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:32:20 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STRIP
10:32:23 SHOPPING CENTER AND RESTAURANT TO PD PLANNED
10:32:26 DEVELOPMENT ALL CI USES AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:32:27 DATE.
10:32:29 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:32:33 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:32:36 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:32:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:39 STAFF REPORTS.
10:32:43 A REMINDER BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH IN ROUGHLY TWO
10:32:46 HOURS MORE OR LESS WE WILL TAKE 63 AND 64 WITH THE
10:32:53 INCLUSION OF THE INTERPRETER ON TO 65 AND ON WARD.
10:32:54 THE STAFF REPORTS.
10:32:58 BEGINNING WITH 65.
10:33:05 AND WHO WAS HERE FOR 65?
10:33:07 ANYONE?
10:33:11 LET'S -- LET'S CONTINUE 65 UNTIL LATER TODAY THEN UNTIL
10:33:14 WHOEVER WAS SUPPOSED TO COME FOR THAT ONE COMES.
10:33:20 ON 66, I SAW MISS AUSTIN HERE.
10:33:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 65 LOOKS LIKE MAYBE MISS GLOVER.
10:33:47 >> I THINK SHE IS OUTSIDE.
10:33:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT, 65.
10:33:50 GOOD MORNING.
10:33:57 >> GOOD MORNING, CHRISTINE GLOVER, CITY AUDITOR.
10:33:58 >> THANK YOU.
10:33:59 THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
10:34:02 AND FOR EVERYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW, THE ISSUE IS
10:34:04 LOOKING AT SINGLE BID CONTRACTS.
10:34:08 I WAS CONCERNED WHEN WE STARTED THAT A HIGH NUMBER OF
10:34:11 HIGH NUMBERS THAT WE WERE APPROVING ON THE CONSENT
10:34:14 AGENDA HAD ONE BID AND I HAVEN'T SEEN AN AGENCY BEFORE
10:34:18 THAT APPROVE SO MANY SINGLE BIDS.
10:34:20 I UNDERSTAND ONE COMPANY OFFICE A CERTAIN KIND OF
10:34:24 CHEMICAL AND OTHER PRODUCT, BUT TOO MANY THAT CAME
10:34:25 BEFORE US THAT DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT.
10:34:28 YOU AND I HAD A PRIVATE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
10:34:31 BUT ANY MORE INSIDE YOU CAN GIVE US BUT THE SHORT
10:34:34 REPORT THAT WE GOT?
10:34:34 >> NO, SIR.
10:34:40 WE LOOKED AT THE PROCESS THAT RESULTED IN SINGLE BIDS.
10:34:45 AND WORKED WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF
10:34:49 THERE ARE SOME OTHER ACTION THAT'S THEY CAN TAKE TO
10:34:52 MAYBE HELP ELIMINATE THE SINGLE BIDS.
10:34:56 AND THAT IS ALL DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT WE PROVIDED.
10:34:59 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU TELL US IN LOOKING AT THE
10:35:01 PERIOD -- I THINK IT WAS THREE YEARS.
10:35:04 DID YOU -- I DIDN'T SEE IN A REPORT HOW MANY OR WHAT
10:35:05 PERCENTAGE WAS SINGLE BID.
10:35:07 DO YOU HAVE THAT?
10:35:10 >> SIR, WE DIDN'T DO A FULL-BLOWN AUDIT.
10:35:14 WE DID LIKE A NONAUDIT SERVICE TO BASICALLY ADDRESS
10:35:15 WHAT YOU ASKED US.
10:35:19 WE DIDN'T PULL REPORTS AND PROVIDED THAT SHOW ALL THE
10:35:23 VOLUME OF SINGLE BIDS.
10:35:26 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE I AM -- MAYBE I WILL MAKE A
10:35:28 MOTION ON THAT LATER JUST TO TRY TO GET THAT NUMBER.
10:35:29 BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
10:35:34 MY CONCERN WHICH I -- I MENTIONED BEFORE AND I SAID TO
10:35:40 THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS THAT IF -- AT LEAST ONE NEWS
10:35:44 OUTLET HAS SAID THAT THE FBI IS LOOKING AT LOCAL
10:35:45 GOVERNMENTS.
10:35:49 AND THEY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT
10:35:52 ENOUGH RUMORS HOW THINGS WERE DONE IN THE LAST EIGHT
10:35:56 YEARS, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THEM LOOKING AT THE CITY.
10:35:59 AND IF THEY LOOK AT THE PRACTICES OF WHAT HAPPENED
10:36:01 UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:36:05 WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PROTECT
10:36:06 OURSELVES FROM ANY OF THAT.
10:36:10 AND AS I SAID TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF, HE IS A FORMER
10:36:10 POLICE OFFICER.
10:36:12 THE MAYOR IS A FORMER POLICE OFFICER.
10:36:16 AND WE ALL ON THIS BOARD WORRY ABOUT ETHICS AND
10:36:17 ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC.
10:36:21 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PROCESSES ARE BEING
10:36:25 FOLLOWED CORRECTLY.
10:36:29 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:36:30 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:36:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
10:36:36 >> MR. SPEARMAN, READ MY MIND.
10:36:39 I WAS GOING TO INVITE OUT TO PODIUM TO SPEAK TO THIS
10:36:40 ISSUE.
10:36:43 I AM INTRIGUED BY THE PARAGRAPH FROM MISS GLOVER SAY
10:36:45 THAT PURCHASING IS IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING
10:36:49 STRATEGY THAT'S WILL MITIGATE AND PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION
10:36:55 TO FURTHER SUPPORT THE CITY'S DUE DILIGENCE THAT THE
10:36:58 PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS COMPETITIVE.
10:36:59 MR. CARLSON.
10:37:02 I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS ISSUE.
10:37:05 THIS IS KIND OF A PETTISH OFF MINE AT LEAST A DECADE OF
10:37:06 SERVICE ON THIS COUNCIL.
10:37:09 I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE AGENDAS AND SCRUTINIZED WITH MANY
10:37:14 PHONE CALLS TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ABOUT SINGLE BIDS,
10:37:17 ABOUT RENEWALS ETC.
10:37:19 , AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
10:37:23 AND I WILL APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT AS WELL.
10:37:26 WITH THAT SAID, I WILL PREEMPT MR. SPEARMAN A LITTLE
10:37:30 BIT TO SPEAK TO HIS INTEGRITY.
10:37:33 THIS IS A MAN WHO IS NATIONALLY KNOWN IN THE PURCHASING
10:37:34 WORLD.
10:37:37 BY THE WAY I THINK THIS IS NATIONAL PURCHASING MONTH, I
10:37:38 THINK.
10:37:42 I HAVE OVER IN GREG FOR 20 YEARS, AND I RESPECT AND
10:37:45 ADMIRE HIS PROFESSIONALISM PROFESSIONALLY.
10:37:48 WITH THAT RESPECT WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER AND GREG WILL
10:37:50 TELL US HOW.
10:37:53 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
10:37:56 TO PUT THIS BEFORE YOU GREG SPEARMAN, PROCUREMENT
10:37:57 DIRECTOR.
10:38:00 TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:03 WE RUN AN OPERATION THAT IS FULL OF INTEGRITY, ETHICS
10:38:06 AND PROFESSIONALISM.
10:38:08 WE DO NOT PLAY POLITICS.
10:38:12 WE DO NOT PLAY WITH THE BID PROCESS PERSONALLY.
10:38:14 THERE ARE LIABILITIES FOR ME BECAUSE OF MY
10:38:18 CERTIFICATION AND AS WELL THE STAFF, THE FBI, THE CIA,
10:38:20 ANYBODY, I INVITE THEM TO COME HERE.
10:38:21 WE WELCOME THAT.
10:38:23 YOU WILL NOT FIND ANYTHING THAT IS DONE
10:38:27 UNPROFESSIONALLY OR THAT IS NOT DONE CORRECTLY.
10:38:31 I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT.
10:38:33 IN TERMS OF THE REPORT THAT MISS GLOVER PREPARED FOR
10:38:33 YOU.
10:38:36 EVERYTHING WE HAVE OUTLINED FOR YOU WILL BE SOME OF THE
10:38:40 CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES UNDERWAY WE GET A SINGLE
10:38:41 BID RESPONSE.
10:38:44 LET ME RUN THROUGH THOSE FOR YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO
10:38:47 ELABORATE ON THESE TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL INSIGHT.
10:38:51 NUMBER ONE, THE CURRENT IMPROVED ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT.
10:38:53 I HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS OVER 30 YEARS.
10:38:56 I CAN TELL YOU THIS, WHEN THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING, YOU
10:39:00 SEE LESS VENDORS INTERESTED IN GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS,
10:39:05 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO AFTER THE MORE LUCRATIVE IN THE
10:39:06 PRIVATE IS SECTOR.
10:39:10 WHEN THE ECONOMY IS DOWN, YOU WILL SEE AN AVALANCHE OF
10:39:14 INTERESTED BIDDERS ON GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS.
10:39:16 THIS IS HOW IF WORKS.
10:39:20 WE ARE IN A BOOMING ECONOMY AND SOME IMPACT ON SINGLE
10:39:20 BIDS.
10:39:29 NUMBER TWO, THE NOTIFICATION PLATFORMS VENDORS HAVE A
10:39:32 PLETHORA OF PLACES TO GET BIDS.
10:39:38 EVERY GOVERNMENT ENTITY HAS THEIR OWN UNIQUE PLATFORM
10:39:42 AT THE GET SO INUNDATED WITH BID ANNOUNCEMENT.
10:39:46 NOT ONE SINGLE UNIVERSAL PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO FOR
10:39:48 ALL BIDS.
10:39:50 WE SHOWS THE MAN STAR BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE MOST
10:39:53 POPULAR PLATFORMS THAT HAS ONE OF THE MOST HIGHEST
10:39:56 NUMBER OF BIDDERS THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH ANY
10:39:57 PARTICULAR PLATFORM.
10:40:00 WE USE THAT ONE, OKAY.
10:40:01 THE THIRD BULLET.
10:40:05 RECENT CHANGES IN IDENTIFICATION AND INSURANCE.
10:40:07 WE ARE MEETING WITH LEGAL AND WITH THE RISK MANAGEMENT
10:40:10 DEPARTMENT NEXT TUESDAY BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN
10:40:16 COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CITIES INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE
10:40:17 AND INSURANCE POLICY.
10:40:20 THAT IS PROBABLY THE SINGLE MOST CONSISTENT COMPLAINT
10:40:26 WE GET, INSURANCE AND INDEMNIFICATION.
10:40:29 AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT NEXT WEDNESDAY.
10:40:32 SHELTER MARKET AND SOLICITATIONS.
10:40:36 VERY NONE OF THOSE RESPONSES, EVEN THOUGH MAKING
10:40:41 MULTIBIDS, WE GET ONE SINGLE BIDS.
10:40:43 THEN LASTLY, MARKET FORCES BEYOND OUR CONTROL.
10:40:46 I CAN TELL YOU, COUNCIL, IF YOU SPEAK WITH SUPPLIERS
10:40:51 PRIVATELY, THEY WILL TELL YOU I DON'T BID IN TAMPA
10:40:52 MARKET.
10:40:54 AN MY COMPETITORS DON'T BID IN MY MARKET.
10:40:55 WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
10:40:58 IT IS UP TO THE BIDDERS IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY ARE
10:41:00 GOING TO BID AND WHAT MARKET.
10:41:03 WE CAN'T CONTROL THE MARKET FORCES AS MISS GLOVER
10:41:04 POINTED OUT.
10:41:06 WHAT HAVE WE DONE SINCE THAT TIME?
10:41:09 WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY'S COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT
10:41:12 TO POST OUR BIDS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
10:41:16 AND I HAVE THIS REPORT FROM MISS ANGELA PITTS.
10:41:23 DATED JANUARY 23, 2020 ON FACEBOOK, FACEBOOK ALONE WE
10:41:29 HAVE ALONE OVER 17,000 HITS SURROUNDING BIDS FOR THE
10:41:38 CITY OF TAMPA AND ON TWITTER 58,377 HITS.
10:41:41 COUNSEL.
10:41:43 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LOOKED AT IT BUT THEY ARE THERE.
10:41:49 BUT THERE IS NO SECRET IN TERMS OF EXPOSURE AND GETTING
10:41:50 THE WORD OUT.
10:41:52 AND FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AND WE ADVERTISE IN THE
10:41:53 NEWSPAPER.
10:42:00 AND ONE OTHER THING.
10:42:02 AND BID DOCUMENTS.
10:42:03 MY NAME IS THERE.
10:42:06 MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS HERE AND MY FAX NUMBER, NOT TO
10:42:08 MENTION THE PERSON WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDLING
10:42:10 THAT BID IN PURCHASING.
10:42:13 THEIR NAME AND E-MAIL ADDRESS IS HERE.
10:42:17 IF ANYBODY HAS AN ISSUE, THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY
10:42:19 FOR THEM TO REACH OUT AND TALK TO PURCHASING.
10:42:23 HERE IS SOMETHING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
10:42:25 WE INCLUDE IS A STATEMENT OF NO BID.
10:42:27 LET ME READ THAT TO YOU.
10:42:31 IT SAYS WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK BECAUSE IT MATTERS TO US.
10:42:34 THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT'S MISSION IS TO PROVIDE THE
10:42:39 BEST SPECIFICATIONS IN OUR BID AND PROPOSALS TO RECEIVE
10:42:42 MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION FROM THE INDUSTRY/MARKET.
10:42:50 PLEASE TAKE A MINUTE TO BRIEFLY NOT RESPONDING ON THE
10:42:52 CITY'S BIT AND REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.
10:42:56 WHAT MORE CAN I DO, COUNCIL?
10:42:58 WE ARE DOING ALL THAT CAN BE DONE AND SHOULD BE DONE TO
10:43:01 GET COMPETITION.
10:43:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
10:43:04 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:43:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS
10:43:07 YOU ARE SAYING.
10:43:10 I HEARD PEOPLE SAY IN REFERENCE TO THE OUTSIDE MARKETS
10:43:13 PAYING MORE THAN THE GOVERNMENT MARKETS ARE PAYING.
10:43:16 BUT I STILL CONTEND -- AND WE HAD THE CONVERSATION --
10:43:18 >> YES, WE DID.
10:43:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- I STILL THINK WE CAN IMPROVE ON
10:43:24 LIKE HAVING A COMPLIANCE OFFICERS LOOKING AT THE RFPS
10:43:27 TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE TOTALLY IN COMPLIANCE.
10:43:31 THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER WITH THE PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE
10:43:34 THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RFP ORDER.
10:43:38 AS A OLD-TIME POLICE OFFICER, SEE IT IS HOW YOU WRITE
10:43:39 THINGS.
10:43:41 IT IS HOW YOU WRITE THINGS.
10:43:44 IT IS HOW YOU CAN MAKE THOSE DIFFERENT WORDS TO CHANGE
10:43:49 WHERE YOU MAYBE ONLY GET A SINGLE BIDDER ON HOW YOU
10:43:49 WRITE THINGS.
10:43:52 I BELIEVE THAT A COMPLIANCE OFFICER -- I KNOW YOU ARE
10:43:52 UNDERSTAFFED.
10:43:56 I HOPE WE CAN GET YOU MORE PEOPLE IN THAT OFFICE.
10:43:58 ALL THE PROJECTS COMING ON BOARD.
10:44:02 I SAY WE NEED A COMPLIANCE OFFICER TO LOOK AT THE RFPS
10:44:04 BEFORE THEY GET TO YOU AND MAKE SURE THOSE NUMBERS ARE
10:44:08 INCREASED IN THOSE BIDS FROM MINORITY CONTRACTS, AND
10:44:12 THEN ON THE OTHER FLIP SIDE WITH MR. HART'S PORTION,
10:44:15 MAKING SURE THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER IS MAKING SURE THAT
10:44:18 THE WORK THAT WE ASK PEOPLE TO DO, THEY ARE DOING.
10:44:21 SO I CONTEND PROBABLY LATER ON -- I PROBABLY MAKE A
10:44:24 MOTION IN REFERENCE TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.
10:44:25 YOU NEED COMPLIANCE OFFICERS.
10:44:27 SOMETIMES YOU STILL PROTECT THE HOUSE.
10:44:29 WE PROTECT THE HOUSE.
10:44:32 WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY PROTECTING THE HOUSE TO MAKE
10:44:35 HOUR THE RFPS ARE WRITTEN.
10:44:37 AND WRITE SOMETHING VERY CRUCIAL.
10:44:39 WE HAVE A BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS UP HERE.
10:44:41 AND HOW YOU WRITE THINGS.
10:44:43 I BELIEVE IT IS HOW WE WRITE THINGS THAT WILL BE ABLE
10:44:48 TO CHANGE MAYBE A PHILOSOPHY, BUT MAYBE THE WAY WE DO
10:44:51 BUSINESS TO GET SOME OF THOSE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN
10:44:55 SAY, A-HA, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN THERE.
10:44:57 AND WHAT IS OUR CITY CRITERIA?
10:45:01 A STATE CRITERIA OR SOME -- AND TELL THAT YOU MIGHT BE
10:45:05 TOO STRINGENT OF SOME OF THE SMALL SMALLER PEOPLE OR
10:45:07 LITTLE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET THE BID.
10:45:09 I AM GLAD YOU BRING IT UP WITH LEGAL.
10:45:10 WHEN I HEAR OF THE INSURANCE.
10:45:13 THE LITTLE GUY, HE CAN'T GET THERE.
10:45:16 THE MIDDLE GUY MAY TRY, AND HE MAY BE STRUGGLING.
10:45:19 SO THE BIG GUY GETS IT ALL AND HE PICKS AND CHOOSES.
10:45:23 MAYBE WE LOOK AT TIERS AND LOOK AT THE BONDS OF SOME OF
10:45:25 THESE COMPANIES AND INSURANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:45:27 EVERYBODY IS GETTING A PIECE OF THE PIE, BECAUSE
10:45:28 EVERYBODY IS HUNGRY.
10:45:30 I WILL SAY IT.
10:45:33 NOT EVERYBODY IS NOT HUNGRY FOR MONEY.
10:45:37 I ASK THAT WE LOOK AT THAT AND CONTEND THAT BOTH OF THE
10:45:39 DEPARTMENTS NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK IS BEING
10:45:44 DONE THAT WE ASK FOR THEM TO DO AND A RFP IS IN A FORM
10:45:47 THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A CHANCE.
10:45:47 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:45:50 I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU AT ALL ON THAT.
10:45:54 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY DEPARTMENT DOES AND I AM SURE
10:45:59 CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, WE DO LOOK AT THE SCOPE.
10:46:02 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE OPEN
10:46:05 UP IN TO GIVE YOU THE COMPETITION, BUT NOT SO LOOSE
10:46:09 ENOUGH THAT YOU WILL GET SUBSTANDARD BIDS TO COME IN.
10:46:12 WE CAN LOOK AT IMPROVING THAT PROCESS A BIT MORE.
10:46:14 IN FACT ONE OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE SEEING
10:46:17 BEFORE LONG AND I AM COUNTING ON YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.
10:46:20 WE WANT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF OUR
10:46:23 PURCHASING MANUAL THAT WILL OPEN UP EVEN MORE
10:46:26 OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL MINORITY CONTRACTORS.
10:46:29 YOU HAVE CONTRACT ADMIN WHO CAME BEFORE YOU.
10:46:32 A LITTLE WHILE AGO TO ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN THEIR
10:46:33 LIMIT.
10:46:36 SO WE ARE GOING BE TOO COMING BACK AND ASK FOR SIMILAR
10:46:37 KIND OF PROVISIONS.
10:46:41 AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD REASONS BEHIND THAT.
10:46:45 AS AN EXAMPLE, OUR FORMER BID LIMIT IS $25,000.
10:46:49 SO EVERY TIME WE PUT OUT SOMETHING FOR $25,000, I GOT
10:46:52 TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS.
10:46:54 I GOT TO ADVERTISE IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU KNOW, THAT
10:46:58 FORMAL PROCESS IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED AND
10:47:00 CHALLENGING FOR US SMALL CONTRACTORS.
10:47:03 THAT LIMIT NEEDS TO BE HIGHER SO I CAN BID THINGS OUT
10:47:06 INFORMALLY SO I DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS
10:47:08 THAT ARE TYPICALLY PART OF THE FORMAL BID PROCESS.
10:47:11 WITH YOUR SUPPORT IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH THIS
10:47:13 ADMINISTRATION AND IN PARTICULAR PURCHASING, WE CAN
10:47:15 MAKE SOME CHANGES.
10:47:18 SO I AM GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU BEFORE TOO LONG WITH
10:47:20 SOME RECOMMENDATIONS -- CHANGES FOR THE PURCHASING
10:47:22 MANAGER.
10:47:25 AND YOU WILL SUPPORT FOR US, THEN WE CAN ACHIEVE A LOT
10:47:28 MORE OF THE THINGS.
10:47:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND SEE HE
10:47:31 THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
10:47:34 ONE OF THE THINGS -- YOU ALSO LOOK AT WHAT I CALL THE
10:47:37 ACRONYMS IN OUR PROGRAM.
10:47:39 AND I LOOK AT THAT, WE TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:47:41 >> YES, WE DID
10:47:43 >> THE OVERUTILIZATION BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS LIKE A
10:47:45 GAME ON THE FIELD.
10:47:48 AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THESE BIG CONTRACTOR THAT'S WANT
10:47:52 THESE CONTRACTS, BUT WE HAVE TO GO AND PLAY A GAME AND
10:47:58 SAY WE HAVE A WHITE FEMALE, AND NOW I ASK IN QUESTION
10:48:00 BEFORE IN THE BLACK FEMALE CATEGORY.
10:48:01 THERE IS NOT ONE.
10:48:05 IT IS ALL LUMPED INTO AFRICAN-AMERICAN SPOT.
10:48:07 SO I HAVE GOT NO NUMBERS.
10:48:10 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AGAIN -- GOES BACK TO
10:48:13 THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER AND MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT
10:48:15 OVERUTILIZATION AND WE STILL GET A BALANCE.
10:48:17 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HAPPENS.
10:48:19 YOU CAN'T TELL ME IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
10:48:21 SO I AM HOPING THAT YOU TAKE THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT
10:48:24 ALREADY AND PUT THESE THINGS INTO PLAY SO THE PEOPLE IN
10:48:27 THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN UNDERSTAND THIS IS WORKING TO
10:48:29 MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAYING FIELD IS LEVEL.
10:48:34 >> THE AREA MR. HART, AND I AM NOT GOING TO VENTURE
10:48:37 OVER THERE AND RESPOND TO IT, BUT WE WORK TOGETHER AND
10:48:38 HE IS HERE TOMORROW.
10:48:40 I AM SURE HE IS TAKING THOSE COMMENTS AND
10:48:42 RECOMMENDATIONS INTO CONSIDERATION.
10:48:45 AND HOPEFULLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN COME BACK WITH
10:48:49 A BETTER PROCESS FOR YOU, WITH IMPROVED POLICIES AND
10:48:53 PROCEDURES AND ACHIEVE THE GOALS WE ALL WANT TO SEE.
10:48:55 >> IF I MAY I HAVE TO CUT THIS ONE SHORT.
10:48:57 COUNCILMAN CARLSON YOU HAVE TO SPEAK.
10:49:00 BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON YOU SAID 66 IS
10:49:01 RELATIVELY SHORT.
10:49:06 I WANT TO GET 67, 68 AND 69 WITHIN THE NEXT HOUR AND DO
10:49:08 63 AND 64 BEFORE LUNCH.
10:49:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:49:13 >> YEAH, THANK YOU.
10:49:17 I AM NOT GOING TO PLAY ALL OF THE EXAMPLES I HAVE TOLD
10:49:18 AND OBSERVED FROM HERE.
10:49:21 I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH MISS GLOVER AND THE CHIEF OF
10:49:24 STAFF GOING THROUGH THOSE AND I DON'T WANT TO PAY THEM
10:49:26 OUT ON TV OR THE MEDIA.
10:49:30 BUT ONE EXAMPLE, MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IN
10:49:34 THE VERY BEGINNING, ONE OF OUR VERY FIRST MEETINGS --
10:49:37 MEETINGS FOUND ONE THAT THE COMPANY BE WITHIN 30 MILES,
10:49:41 AND IT TURNS OUT THE COMPANY WAS EXACTLY 30 MILES.
10:49:44 AND, AGAIN, WHATEVER HAPPENED ON THE LAST
10:49:46 ADMINISTRATION IS ON THEM.
10:49:48 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS ON US.
10:49:52 I APPRECIATE -- YOU AND I TALKED TO THIS, TOO, AT
10:49:53 LENGTH.
10:49:56 I KNOW YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL AND CREW DENSE AND I
10:49:59 HAVEN'T SEEN AS MANY SINGLE BID CONTRACTS.
10:50:01 AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
10:50:03 YOU ALLUDED TO IN A MINUTE AGO.
10:50:05 THE DIFFERENCE IS THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:50:07 THE ADMINISTRATION -- ATTITUDE OF THE ADMINISTRATION IS
10:50:08 VERY SERIOUS.
10:50:10 THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT ONLY INTERESTED IN
10:50:14 COLLABORATION AND OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BUT
10:50:18 ALSO INTERESTED IN ETHICS AND WITH THAT IN MIND AND NOT
10:50:21 CRITICIZING ANYTHING YOU ARE DOING, ASK MISS GLOVER,
10:50:23 WHAT IF --
10:50:26 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, LET'S TRY TO HURRY IT UP.
10:50:28 >>BILL CARLSON: IF THERE ARE EMPLOYEES WATCHING OR
10:50:30 OTHER PEOPLE WHO KNOW.
10:50:32 WHAT IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PROCESS IN THE CITY OF
10:50:34 TAMPA?
10:50:35 >> WE DO HAVE A HOTLINE.
10:50:39 AND EVERY EMPLOYEE IS GIVEN THAT INFORMATION AS PART OF
10:50:41 EMPLOYEE ORIENTATION.
10:50:46 EVERY AUDIT WE DO, WE ASK AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE
10:50:47 OF AND IT IS POSTED.
10:50:49 THEY CALL IN A HOTLINE.
10:50:52 THE VENDOR -- THE VENDOR SENDS A REPORT TO INTERNAL
10:50:55 AUDIT, AND THAT ALLOWS THE EMPLOYEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:50:57 REMAIN ANONYMOUS.
10:51:00 AND FROM FLORIDA, IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, THEY CAN
10:51:03 -- WE LEAVE A MESSAGE WITH THEM AT THE HOTLINE AND THEY
10:51:05 CAN CALL BACK TO THE VENDOR AND GIVE US ADDITIONAL
10:51:06 INFORMATION.
10:51:09 WE HAVE AVAILABLE MATRIX AND THAT DETERMINES HOW WE
10:51:13 HANDLE IT OR SOMETHING WE REFER TO HR AND ACTUAL FRAUD
10:51:17 THAT WE NEED INVESTIGATING AND SOMETHING CRIMINAL AND
10:51:18 DEFER THE TPD.
10:51:21 WE USE THAT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE
10:51:21 ADMINISTRATION.
10:51:25 IF GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF HOW TO HANDLE IT
10:51:29 AND WE INVESTIGATE OR DO WHATEVER WE NEED FROM THAT
10:51:29 PERSPECTIVE.
10:51:30 >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT, THANK YOU.
10:51:35 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE.
10:51:39 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY FAST, MR. SPEARMAN.
10:51:40 20 SECONDS.
10:51:42 >> OTHER NOTICE IN THE RESOLUTION.
10:51:45 WHENEVER THERE IS A SINGLE BID RESPONSE, WE ARE LETTING
10:51:46 YOU KNOW WHY.
10:51:48 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE READING THOSE, BUT THE VENDOR
10:51:52 POOL OF COMPANY THAT DID NOT RESPOND ON THE HOLDER LIST
10:51:55 AND ASKING WHY IS IT YOU DIDN'T BID.
10:51:57 IF YOU START LOOKING AT THE BACKGROUND SECTION, WE ARE
10:52:00 PUTTING IN THERE WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US AND MOST OF
10:52:02 THAT HAD TO DO WITH WHAT WE TALK ABOUT.
10:52:04 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:52:08 I WAS NOT PART OF THE LAST ADMINISTRATION AND I HAVE
10:52:13 BEEN THE LAST COUNCILMAN FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
10:52:15 SINCE THE FBI WAS MENTIONED I DON'T WANT TO CLOUD OVER
10:52:16 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:52:20 I WANT THE SUNSHINE AND RAY AND HAPPINESS FOR PEOPLE
10:52:21 WHO COME.
10:52:27 I WILL CALL FOR THE FBI TO DO AN INVESTIGATION ON EVERY
10:52:30 COUNCILMEMBERS AND ANY CELL PHONE CONVERSATION FOR THE
10:52:33 LAST SIX YEARS INCLUDING THIS COUNCIL.
10:52:34 LET THEM COME.
10:52:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WANTED TO ADD TO
10:52:40 THAT AND I WANT TO COMMENT THAT I APPRECIATE OUR
10:52:43 COLLEAGUE AND OUR FRIEND COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S FEELING
10:52:46 ON THE LAST MAYOR, BUT I THINK THERE HAS GOT TO BE A
10:52:49 LINE OF DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE PERSONAL FEELINGS AND
10:52:52 THEN THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SERVE IN THAT ADMINISTRATION.
10:52:54 I DO NOT WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WE ARE GOING TO TALK
10:52:57 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA DEEP STATE.
10:52:59 I DO NOT WANT TO START GETTING THERE.
10:53:05 WHEN THE WORDS "FBI" GET NOTED, AGAIN -- IT'S NOT THAT,
10:53:09 IT IS THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING A LITTLE TOO FAR.
10:53:13 MY IS -- THAT IS JUST MY RESPECTFUL OPINION.
10:53:15 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
10:53:15 ANYTHING ELSE?
10:53:16 THANK YOU.
10:53:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:20 ITEM 66.
10:53:24 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:53:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT -- HOPEFULLY WILL TAKE 30
10:53:28 SECONDS.
10:53:30 WANTED YOU JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE ON TV TO SAY YOU WHAT
10:53:33 KIND OF SAID IN THE MEMO.
10:53:37 >>KELLY AUSTIN: GOOD MORNING, KELLY AUSTIN, HUMAN
10:53:37 RESOURCES.
10:53:42 COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO LOOK ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH
10:53:46 IMPLEMENTING ETHICS TRAINING ON A YEARLY BASIS AT
10:53:47 MINIMAL FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS.
10:53:48 THAT WAS THE ASK.
10:53:51 COINCIDENTALLY, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON
10:53:55 RE1R567ING AND REFRESHING ETHICS TRAINING.
10:53:58 THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES US TO TRAIN UPON HIRE.
10:53:59 WE ARE TALKING CITY EMPLOYEES.
10:54:03 WE ARE NOT TALKING ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN
10:54:07 LOOKING AT ADDING A TRAINING MODULE WE WILL DO YEARLY
10:54:11 LIKE ADA AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS.
10:54:13 NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BECAUSE MARKETING AND
10:54:16 COMMUNICATION WILL HELP US WITH THE FILMING AND
10:54:18 RECORDING OF THE UPDATED VERSION.
10:54:20 THE CONTENTS OF THE ORDINANCE HAS NOT CHANGED.
10:54:26 WE WILL REFRESH IT AND HAVE NEW EMPLOYEES IN THE VIDEO.
10:54:26 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:54:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:54:30 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:54:31 >>KELLY AUSTIN: THANK YOU.
10:54:34 >>LUIS VIERA: MY ASPIRATION AND COUNCILMEMBERS, LET ME
10:54:35 KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS.
10:54:38 THIS WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:54:46 GUDES, DO YOU THINK 67 AND 68 WOULD TAKE 30 MINUTES?
10:54:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK SO.
10:54:51 >>LUIS VIERA: LET USES A FIRE.
10:54:52 >> GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
10:54:59 HERE WITH RESPECT TO 67 AND 68, AN UPDATE YOU REQUESTED
10:55:02 ON MEMORIAL CEMETERY AND ZION CEMETERY.
10:55:07 I'M HERE WITH SCOTT STIGEL WITH OUR STAFF AND
10:55:11 TOYIN HARGRETT.
10:55:14 THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE
10:55:15 IN THE OFFICE.
10:55:18 I WILL ADDRESS MEMORIAL FIRST AND TOYIN WITH ALL THE
10:55:24 HOUSING AUTHORITY WITH RESPECT TO THE ZION CEMETERY.
10:55:28 SHE WILL UPDATE THE ZION CEMETERY AND MORE ON THAT.
10:55:32 WITH ZION -- THE ROBINSON FAMILY OWNED THAT CEMETERY
10:55:34 FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
10:55:38 MR. ROBERTSON PASSED AWAY LAST SUMMER AND AS A RESULT,
10:55:40 WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH HIS ESTATE.
10:55:44 THE STATUS OF THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE
10:55:48 ESTATE HAS ABANDONED THE ABANDONED THE CEMETERY.
10:55:54 NOT CEMETERY, BUT IN PROBATE SOUGHT TO DISCLAIM THE
10:55:57 CEMETERY AS AN ASSET OF THE ESTATE.
10:56:01 THEY REFUSED TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE CEMETERY.
10:56:05 REFUSED OUR SETTLEMENT OFFER OF RESPECT FOR THE BURIAL
10:56:09 RECORD AND PLAN TO TRANSFER TITLE OF THE PROPERTY TO A
10:56:10 SHELL CORPORATION.
10:56:14 HOW WE WONDER HOW CEMETERIES BECOME LOSS, THIS IS HOW
10:56:14 IT HAPPENS.
10:56:17 WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL, WE
10:56:23 ACTUALLY INSTITUTED THREE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TO COMBAT
10:56:23 THIS.
10:56:26 THE PURPOSE OF THE PROCEEDINGS WAS FIRST, WE TRIED TO
10:56:29 FORCE THE ESTATE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY
10:56:30 REFUSED.
10:56:32 SO NOW WE ARE TRYING TO RECOVER THE CITY'S COST,
10:56:36 BECAUSE WE CONDUCTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE
10:56:39 ACTIVITIES AT THE CEMETERY.
10:56:42 I THINK WE HAVE ONE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW.
10:56:44 THAT WILL BE THE FOURTH ONE JUST LAST SUMMER.
10:56:48 WE ARE ALSO WITH THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TRYING TO
10:56:52 PREVENT THE ESTATE FROM ACCESSING THE CARE AND
10:56:55 MAINTENANCE TRUST FUND THAT IS DEPOSITED WITH THE STATE
10:56:56 OF FLORIDA.
10:56:59 WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS
10:57:03 WELL AS THE TRUSTEE OF THAT TRUST FUND TO MAKE SURE IT
10:57:04 IS BEING PROTECTED.
10:57:08 AND THE LAST ITEM, THE LAST PURPOSE OF THE LEGAL
10:57:11 PROCEEDINGS WAS TO ALSO PROTECT THE BURIAL RECORDS.
10:57:15 THE ESTATE HAS CUSTODY OF THE BURIAL RECORDS, AND FROM
10:57:18 WHAT WE KNOW, THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD ORDER AND WE DON'T
10:57:20 KNOW THEY ARE COMPLETE AND WE ASKED THEM TO COMPLETE
10:57:23 THOSE RECORDS, ORGANIZED THEM AND PROVIDE THEM TO US
10:57:27 AND THEY HAVE BASICALLY REFUSED TO DO SO.
10:57:29 MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.
10:57:34 ON THE AGENDA AND IMPROVED IMPOSITION OF THE LIEN FOR
10:57:37 THE MAINTENANCE ALREADY CONDUCTED ALREADY.
10:57:42 ONCE THAT LIEN IS RECORDED ON THE PROPERTY, WE WILL
10:57:44 FORECLOSURE ON THAT LIEN.
10:57:46 WHY DO WE WANT TO FORECLOSURE?
10:57:51 ADDITIONAL LIENS ON THIS PROPERTY AND ADDITIONAL LIENS
10:57:56 AND DON'T WANT TO CAKE CONVEYANCE BECAUSE IT WILL BE
10:57:56 SUBJECT.
10:57:59 WE WILL USE THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS AS A MECHANISM TO
10:58:03 WIPE OUT THOSE EXISTING LIENS AND OBTAIN TITLE.
10:58:07 AFTER WE OBTAIN TITLE, WHAT WE WILL DO IS CONVEY IT TO
10:58:09 A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.
10:58:13 THE REASON FOR IS TWO-FOLD.
10:58:15 FIRST OF ALL, WE THINK IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
10:58:19 THE CITY TO HAVE IT IN A NOT-FOR-PROFIT THAT WILL
10:58:20 FACILITATE FUND RAISING.
10:58:27 A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY WILL WANT FOR A
10:58:30 TRUST FUND FOR A CEMETERY AND YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT
10:58:32 IT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ZION.
10:58:35 THAT WAY THOSE FUNDS THAT ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO
10:58:39 CONTRIBUTE WILL BE DIRECTED SOLELY TOWARD MEMORIAL AND
10:58:41 NOT GIVEN TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
10:58:46 THE OTHER ADVANTAGE OF HAVING TITLE TO THE PROFIT IN A
10:58:47 NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
10:58:50 EITHER THE CITY OR THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT WILL BE ABLE TO
10:58:54 ACCESS THE TRUST FUND MONEY THAT IS DEPOSITED FOR THE
10:58:55 STATE.
10:58:57 WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR THE FUTURE MAINTENANCE OF THE
10:58:57 PROPERTY.
10:59:00 THIS IS FOR A NOT-FOR-PROFIT OR OWNED BY THE CITY.
10:59:03 WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH THE STATE IN WRITING THAT WE
10:59:06 WILL BE ENTITLED TO ACCESS THE MONEY THAT IS BEING
10:59:08 DEPOSITED IN THAT TRUST FUND.
10:59:11 WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON
10:59:13 MEMORIAL.
10:59:15 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:59:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEING IN THE BUSINESS, WE TALK
10:59:22 CEMETERIES ARE VERY, VERY TRICKY, ESPECIALLY EXISTING
10:59:23 CEMETERIES.
10:59:25 I KNOW MEMORIAL PARK REAL WELL.
10:59:28 THERE ARE STILL BURIAL PLOTS THAT ARE THERE.
10:59:29 PEOPLE ALREADY PAID YEARS AGO.
10:59:32 SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT DOWN THE ROAD, YOU ARE GOING TO
10:59:33 HAVE TO ADDRESS.
10:59:37 BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY I PAID YEARS AGO FOR
10:59:39 THOSE PLOTS AND I WANT TO GO AND OPENING AND CLOSING
10:59:40 COSTS TO DO.
10:59:44 I LIKE THE FACT YOU ARE GOING AFTER THE CARE TRUST.
10:59:47 GREAT THAT YOU LOOK AT THE NONPROFIT, BUT YOU ALSO --
10:59:50 IF YOU SELECT THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL -- AND THE ROUTE
10:59:53 YOU WANT TO GO TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OF
10:59:55 PEOPLE ON THE BOARD AND MAKING SURE YOU HAVE PEOPLE
10:59:58 FROM THE MORTICIAN ASSOCIATION.
11:00:03 FLORIDA AND THE MORTICIAN ASSOCIATION, SOME OF THE
11:00:06 CASKET COMPANIES AS WELL WILL BE PART OF THAT AND MANY
11:00:11 OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS TO HELP BRING RUN, WHO HELP KEEP
11:00:12 THE CEMETERY UP.
11:00:14 YOU WILL NEED MONEY TO KEEP IT UP.
11:00:16 I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR MEMORIAL.
11:00:18 TO GET THAT MOVING.
11:00:20 SO I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THE IDEA OF GETTING THAT
11:00:21 MOVED.
11:00:24 >> AND YOU ARE CORRECT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
11:00:27 THERE IS MORE TO CARETAKING WITH THE CEMETERY.
11:00:29 IT IS NOT JUST MOWING THE GRASS.
11:00:32 THERE IS PROTECTION ISSUE, SECURITY ISSUE THAT'S YOU
11:00:33 HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
11:00:36 THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CEMETERY AS MR. GUDES
11:00:36 MENTIONED.
11:00:41 THERE ARE BURIAL -- GRANTS OF BURIAL RECORDED AGAINST
11:00:42 THE PROPERTY.
11:00:45 WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER EVERYBODY WHO HAS BOUGHT A PLOT
11:00:49 AT THAT CEMETERY IS BURIED THERE ALREADY AND WHETHER
11:00:53 THERE IS OUTSTANDING GRANTS OF BURIAL DUE TO PEOPLE.
11:00:55 AT SOME POINT, GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE
11:01:00 GRANTS OF BURIAL AND THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
11:01:02 ALSO IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE PROPERTY
11:01:05 ONE OF WHICH IS A FENCE THAT IS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF
11:01:09 THE PROPERTY, AND YOU DEAL WITH LONG-TERM ONGOING ISSUE
11:01:12 LIKE THE HEADSTONES THAT ARE IN THE CEMETERY AND THE
11:01:14 SUN AND THE WEAR AND THE TEAR AND THE RAIN AND WHETHER
11:01:17 THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE WANT TO ASSUME.
11:01:21 AGAIN, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT CAN STEP UP AND SAY, WHEN
11:01:24 CERTAIN TOMBSTONES START TO BREAK OR CRACK OR
11:01:26 DETERIORATE, AND THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF
11:01:29 MAINTENANCE TO PAY THAT RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
11:01:30 BURIED THERE.
11:01:31 >> THANK YOU.
11:01:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:01:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS GRIMES, THANK YOU TO YOU AND
11:01:40 YOUR STAFF FOR THIS UPDATE.
11:01:44 IT'S OBVIOUSLY A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE ESPECIALLY IN
11:01:49 RECENT, YOU KNOW -- RECENT YEARS IN LIGHT OF ZION, ETC.
11:01:54 THAT WE DILIGENTLY MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN
11:01:59 CEMETERIES WITH THE DIGNITY THAT FOLKS DESERVE.
11:02:03 AND IF THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT STARTED THIS IS NOT
11:02:06 WILLING TO DO IT AND IN CASE THE GENTLEMAN PASSED AWAY
11:02:09 AND HIS FAMILY IS NOT WILLING TO STEP UP AND DO IT,
11:02:12 THEN IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO STEP IN AND
11:02:16 MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, THE FAMILIES AND THE FOLKS
11:02:19 BURIED THERE HAVE THE DIGNITY THAT THEY DESERVE.
11:02:22 THERE IS SOME FINANCIAL LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS,
11:02:25 SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL LIABILITY.
11:02:32 WHEN YOU BRIEFED ME YESTERDAY ON THIS, YOU AND TOYIN.
11:02:36 AND EVEN IF WE GET A HOLD OF THIS TRUST FUND MONEY, IT
11:02:40 IS NOT GOING TO BE ADEQUATE FOR THE LONG TERM PERPETUAL
11:02:44 CARE, AND THAT CONCERNS ME GREATLY IN CONCERNS WITH THE
11:02:47 CITY'S FINANCES.
11:02:48 >> YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THAT.
11:02:50 I AM NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS A MODEL THAT CAN BE
11:02:52 REPEATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
11:02:54 THE CITY IS NOT IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS.
11:02:57 WE DO OWN OTHER CEMETERIES.
11:03:02 AND WE PROVIDE MINIMAL MAINTENANCE AS THOSE CEMETERIES,
11:03:05 BUT THIS ISN'T -- WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING THE WAY WE ARE
11:03:07 RESPONDING TO THIS IS THE WAY WE RECOMMEND TO BE
11:03:11 REPEATED OVER AND OVER, BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE SUSTAINED
11:03:12 FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT.
11:03:15 THE BEST THING TO DO AT THIS STAGE, IN MY OPINION, IS
11:03:19 TO DEAL WITH THEM ONE AT A TIME AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO
11:03:20 WITH EACH ONE.
11:03:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT
11:03:25 CONCERNS ME SP -- AND I AM NOT OPPOSING IT.
11:03:28 I THINK WE DO HAVE TO TAKE IT STEP BY STEP.
11:03:29 WITH REGARD TO THE NONPROFIT.
11:03:32 THE CREATION OF THE NONPROFIT, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, THAT
11:03:35 DOWN THE ROAD, LET'S SAY 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE
11:03:39 CREATE THE -- WE CREATE THE NONPROFIT NOW 15 TO 20
11:03:44 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT NONPROFIT FRITTERS AWAY.
11:03:47 THE PEOPLE ON THE NONPROFIT DIE OFF.
11:03:50 THEY DON'T DO A GOOD JOB OF RAISING MONEY AND SOME
11:03:53 FUTURE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL WILL BE FACED WITH A
11:03:56 NONPROFIT THAT IS GONE DEFUNCT.
11:04:00 AND A CEMETERY THAT IS ABANDONED AGAIN.
11:04:03 GOOD FORBID WE WILL END UP WITH THE ZION SITUATION ALL
11:04:04 OVER AGAIN.
11:04:07 SO I GUESS -- AND I AM NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING THAT
11:04:10 YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT -- BUT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME
11:04:14 SORT OF REVERTER CLAUSE IN THERE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR
11:04:19 AND CONTROL AT LEAST LOOSELY CONTROL AND OBSERVE THE
11:04:22 NONPROFIT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T END UP IN THAT
11:04:27 SITUATION DECADES FROM NOW.
11:04:32 AND ALSO URGE THE STATE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO
11:04:37 REVISIT THE CEMETERY ISSUES.
11:04:40 BECAUSE IF THE LEGISLATION AND THE STATUTES ARE NOT
11:04:43 STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE MONEY
11:04:46 IN THERE FOR THE PERPETUAL CARE, THEN THE STATE NEEDS
11:04:50 TO BEEF THAT UP.
11:04:53 >> I THINK, ALSO, WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT, THERE CAN BE
11:04:56 REPORTING REQUIREMENTS BACK TO THIS COUNCIL, SO THAT
11:05:00 YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THAT WATCHDOG STATUS AND
11:05:03 ENSURE THAT THERE IS A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE
11:05:05 MAINTENANCE OF THE CEMETERY.
11:05:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
11:05:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:05:10 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:05:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKING THE NONPROFIT -- I WANT TO
11:05:17 MAKE SURE SOMETIMES YOU PUT PEOPLE ON BOARDS THAT ARE
11:05:20 NOT IN TUNED WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING ON THAT BOARD.
11:05:22 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WITHIN THE NUMBER THAT YOU MAY
11:05:28 SELECT ON THAT GOOD, THAT THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR
11:05:30 EACH ONE THOSE BOARD MEMBERS, YOU ARE GETTING PEOPLE
11:05:34 WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT CEMETERY IS ABOUT.
11:05:36 COMMUNITY PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND NOT JUST PUTTING PEOPLE
11:05:38 ON A BOARD AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RAISE MONEY.
11:05:41 THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS DO THIS AND THAT, PEOPLE WHO
11:05:44 ARE GEARED TO KNOW THE INDUSTRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT
11:05:46 THAT IS AND WHAT A CEMETERY ENTAILS.
11:05:49 >> I AGREE WITH THE SUGGESTION THERE BE PEOPLE FROM THE
11:05:54 INDUSTRY ON THE NORTHWEST FOR PROFIT BOARD, AND BEFORE
11:05:58 WE FINALIZE THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT DOCUMENTS, I WILL BE
11:06:00 HAPPY TO COME BACK WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED
11:06:01 STRUCTURE OF THE BOARD.
11:06:03 WE WILL GET YOUR INPUT ON IT.
11:06:07 WHEN WE DO THIS, WE WOULD IDENTIFY POSITIONS IN THE
11:06:10 COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE SO THAT WAY
11:06:13 THERE WILL BE THE ONGOING ABILITY TO FULFILL THOSE --
11:06:15 THOSE POSITIONS ON THE BOARD WITH PEOPLE FROM EXPERTISE
11:06:19 IN CERTAIN AREAS MUCH THE SAME WAY YOU DO ON CITY
11:06:24 BOARDS WHERE YOU CALL FOR AN ARCHITECT, AN ENGINEER AND
11:06:25 CONTRACTOR.
11:06:29 THAT KIND OF IDENTIFICATION FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
11:06:31 >> THAT WILL BE THE LONG HAUL TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THERE
11:06:34 WHO WILL MAKE THESE CALLS AND GET OTHER BOARD MEMBERS
11:06:37 AT THAT LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE DIGNITY
11:06:41 IN THAT CEMETERY CONTINUES TO BE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND
11:06:45 IT LOOKS LIKE A -- LOOKS LIKE A -- A GARDEN OF THEM
11:06:46 REESE.
11:06:49 I AM JUST BEING HONEST.
11:06:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
11:06:54 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:06:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT THE CITY OF
11:07:00 TAMPA IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF THE CEMETERY BUSINESS.
11:07:05 APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS AND STAFF'S EFFORTS TO MAKE HOUR
11:07:09 ZION -- WHAT HAPPENS TO ZION DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
11:07:13 WHAT DO WE THE CITY HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX FOR THE
11:07:16 CEMETERIES IN COMPLIANCE IN COMPLIANCE KEEPING THEIR
11:07:18 GROUNDS AND -- WHAT TOOLS DO WE HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX
11:07:23 FROM PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN S&P.
11:07:24 >> YOU KNOW --
11:07:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
11:07:31 THIS PERSON TOOK MONEY FROM FAMILY MEMBERS AND PUT IT
11:07:33 IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT, AND NOW THEY ARE WALKING AWAY
11:07:34 FROM IT.
11:07:39 BUT THERE ARE OTHER CEMETERIES WITHIN CITY THAT ARE
11:07:39 DOING FINE.
11:07:42 HOW DO WE PRESENT HAVE THIS?
11:07:45 WHAT TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX, TO THE COUNTY, STATE.
11:07:50 CAN WE ASSURE THAT THESE CEMETERIES STAY LIQUID SO WE
11:07:53 DON'T HAVE TO JUMP IN THE FUTURE.
11:07:57 >> STATE IN THE LEGISLATION CARE IN TRUST FUND.
11:08:01 AND MR. GUDES, THERE IS ANOTHER REQUIREMENT FOR ANOTHER
11:08:02 TYPE OF TRUST FUND.
11:08:05 THE FAMILY SEEMS TO THINK THAT THE MONEY IN THE TRUST
11:08:07 FUND WAS THEIR EXIT TICKET.
11:08:09 AND THAT IS HOW THEY COULD BE JUSTIFIED IN WALKING AWAY
11:08:13 FROM IT BECAUSE THERE IS MONEY IN THEIR TRUST FUND.
11:08:16 HOW DO WE PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE?
11:08:19 IT SEEMS TO ME -- I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD --
11:08:22 AT LEAST NOT YET -- IS WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THE
11:08:25 CEMETERY BECOMES FULL AND NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH A
11:08:30 FUNERAL HOME OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE SELLING PLOTS IN
11:08:34 THAT CEMETERY, IT IS NO LONGER AN INCOME PRODUCING
11:08:37 ASSET, SO THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN MAINTAINING IT AND
11:08:40 KEEPING IT AND LIVING UP TO THE OBLIGATIONS TECHNICALLY
11:08:43 THEY PROMISED TO THE PEOPLE THEY SOLD LOTS TOO.
11:08:46 I THINK THEY THINK THAT BY HAVING MONEY IN THAT TRUST
11:08:49 FUND, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THE PERPETUAL
11:08:52 MAINTENANCE OF THE CEMETERY.
11:08:53 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?
11:08:56 MAYBE THE FORMULA FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE TRUST
11:08:58 FUND NEED TO BE ADJUST BY THE STATE.
11:09:01 MR. DINGFELDER SUGGESTED WE LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION.
11:09:07 I AGREE WE NEED TO DO THAT MR. GUDES, YOU KNOW THAT THE
11:09:09 CEMETERY STATUTE IS VERY COMPLICATED.
11:09:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: VERY COMPLICATED.
11:09:13 WHEN MR. DINGFELDER TALKED ABOUT LEGISLATION.
11:09:16 THE MORTICIAN BOARD.
11:09:19 THEY ARE THE ONE THAT DISCIPLINE CEMETERY OWNERS AND
11:09:20 DISCIPLINE EVERYBODY.
11:09:22 I THINK WE NEED TO CONTACT THEM TO SEE WHAT THE RULES
11:09:25 ARE OR MAYBE SOME CHANGES PROPOSED TO THEM TO
11:09:27 STRENGTHEN WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO HERE.
11:09:29 I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER STARTING POINT.
11:09:35 BUT, AGAIN, I WANT -- I KNOW MR. CITRO TALKED ABOUT IT,
11:09:39 BUT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR MR. ROBERTSON AND HIS MOTHER
11:09:41 WAS THE BEST PLACE.
11:09:45 MEMORIAL PARK WAS THE CHEAPEST CEMETERY AROUND TO BURY
11:09:45 FOLKS.
11:09:47 UNTIL HE DIED THAT GENTLEMAN WAS OUT THERE TRYING TO
11:09:49 MOW THAT GRASS OUT THERE.
11:09:51 FIX THOSE HEADSTONES.
11:09:53 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEIR OTHER FAMILY.
11:09:56 THEY -- I NEVER MET THEM.
11:09:58 THEY NEVER OUT FLORIDA.
11:10:01 MR. ROBERTSON AND HIS WIFE, THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT
11:10:03 AFFORDABLE FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
11:10:05 I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT.
11:10:07 HE WASN'T JUST A PERSON TAKING MONEY, BUT HE WAS A
11:10:10 PERSON WHO WAS HELPING THE COMMUNITY WITH THE BURIAL
11:10:11 PLOTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
11:10:14 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:10:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM FINISHED.
11:10:17 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:10:19 >>BILL CARLSON: ECHO MY COLLEAGUES.
11:10:21 THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
11:10:23 YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR MONTHS.
11:10:26 YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BALANCE THE ISSUE.
11:10:28 YOU DON'T WANT ANOTHER ZION AND RESPECTFUL OF THE
11:10:30 PEOPLE THAT GO THERE.
11:10:32 YOU HAVE PROTECTED THE TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS OF THE
11:10:32 COMMUNITY.
11:10:34 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AS WELL.
11:10:38 YOU -- YOU KIND OF MENTION IT, BUT I WISH WE COULD
11:10:39 LOBBY THE STATE.
11:10:41 A LOT OF THIS GETS IN THE STATE.
11:10:44 BUT LOBBY THE STATE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS INCREASE THE
11:10:45 TRUST FUNDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:10:48 BUT THE NUMBER AS YOU TOLD US PRIVATELY, THE NUMBER
11:10:52 COULD GROW EXPONENTIALLY WITH THE CLEANING OF THESE
11:10:53 THINGS OVER THE YEARS.
11:10:56 THERE ARE -- THE LAST THING I WILL SAY, THERE ARE SOME
11:10:58 INNOVATIVE IDEAS.
11:11:03 AN ARCHITECT PATRICK THORPE WHO HAVE REVENUE STREAMS
11:11:06 FOR CEMETERIES AND I LOOK THAT THE NONPROFIT WILL LOOK
11:11:08 AT THOSE IDEAS TOO.
11:11:11 LONG TERM NO MATTER HOW BIG THE TRUST FUNDS ARE,
11:11:13 EVENTUALLY THEY WILL RUN OUT OF MONEY.
11:11:14 THANK YOU.
11:11:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:11:15 ANYONE ELSE?
11:11:16 OKAY.
11:11:19 JUST IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR
11:11:19 HARD WORK ON THIS.
11:11:21 SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:11:24 I REMEMBER WHEN I WENT OUT THERE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND
11:11:28 FRIEND COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH MARVIN KNIGHT AND OTHERS
11:11:31 TO DO A CLEANUP DAY WHICH WAS A BIG THING.
11:11:35 WE ALSO SAW TO IT TO DO AN HONOR GUARD CEREMONY FOR
11:11:37 SOME OF THE VETERANS BURIED THERE.
11:11:39 A RED CROSS MEMORIAL WHERE YOU HAVE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
11:11:44 VETERANS FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR I.
11:11:47 SOME WERE KILLED IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR I.
11:11:50 COMPELLING FROM 1917-1918 THROUGH THE HEIGHT OF JIM
11:11:52 CROW.
11:11:54 THESE GREAT AMERICANS FOUGHT FOR THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD
11:11:57 NOT STAND FOR THEM AND THEY PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE AND
11:12:00 WE OWE TO THEM AND OTHERS TO DO THEIR BEST TODAY.
11:12:03 ONE THING WE WANT TO ADD TO THE BOARD IS, AND WE TALKED
11:12:06 ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY WHICH IS VETERANS.
11:12:10 A TON OF VETERANS BURIED THERE AND THE GOOD MEN AND
11:12:14 WOMEN OVER AT 13TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, AND THEY ARE READY
11:12:18 TO HEAD OUT ONCE IT IS LEGALLY FEASIBLE TO DO SO AND AN
11:12:21 ISSUE ALSO OF OUR VETERANS AND OUR VETERANS, WHO,
11:12:25 AGAIN, WORE A UNIFORM AT A TIME WHEN OUR COUNTRY WOULD
11:12:27 NOT STAND UP FOR THEM.
11:12:27 SOMETHING POIGNANT.
11:12:29 WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
11:12:30 >> THANK YOU.
11:12:32 THOSE GROUPS ARE THE KIND OF GROUPS WE WANT TO BE
11:12:34 INVOLVED AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CAUSE.
11:12:38 WITH THAT, WE CAN'T -- THIS MEMORIAL CAN BE A BEAUTIFUL
11:12:39 CEMETERY AGAIN.
11:12:40 >>LUIS VIERA: AMEN.
11:12:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:47 >> TOYIN WILL ADDRESS YOU ON ZION.
11:12:47 >> GOOD MORNING.
11:12:51 SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:12:54 FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WANT COUNCIL TO KNOW, WE WANT
11:12:57 EVERYONE TO KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO BEING A
11:13:01 PART OF THE SOLUTION THAT WILL SHED LIGHT AND RESTORE
11:13:05 THE DIGNITY AND HONOR OF THOSE ENTERED IN ZION, THE
11:13:06 LOST CEMETERY.
11:13:09 FIRST AND FOREMOST, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY MEMBERS OF
11:13:11 CITY STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THESE
11:13:13 ARCHAEOLOGICAL MEETINGS THAT ARE HOUSED AT THE TAMPA
11:13:15 HOUSING AUTHORITY.
11:13:17 THOSE MEETINGS TAKES PLACE ONCE A MONTH.
11:13:20 WE HAVE ATTENDED ALL OF THEM IN GREAT NUMBER.
11:13:23 THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN PROCEEDING AND BASICALLY A FACT
11:13:26 FINDING SORT OF POSTURE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
11:13:30 INITIALLY THERE WAS THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US
11:13:32 REGARDING THE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR.
11:13:35 STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED AT TAMPA HOUSING
11:13:36 AUTHORITY'S PROPERTY.
11:13:40 BUT WE ALSO WERE IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING THE
11:13:44 PERMISSION OF THE ADDITIONAL PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.
11:13:50 GONZMART AND CREECH WITH GROUND PENETRATING STUDIES AT
11:13:52 THEIR PROPERTIES WELL.
11:13:56 THE STUDIES HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED OF ALL THREE PARCELS,
11:13:59 ALL THREE PRIVATE PARCELS AND NONE OF WHICH ARE OWNED
11:14:00 BY THE CITY.
11:14:03 THE BOUNDARIES OF ZION CEMETERY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED
11:14:04 AND CONFIRMED.
11:14:08 THEY ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH A VERY DELICATE PROCESS
11:14:11 OF CONFIRMING THE STUDIES THEY HAVE DONE.
11:14:13 FURTHER COMPLICATING THIS IS THE FACT THAT THE TAMPA
11:14:15 HOUSING AUTHORITY IS UNDERGOING A MASSIVE REDEVELOPMENT
11:14:21 AND REDESIGN OF THEIR PROPERTY SO THERE A LOT OF MOVING
11:14:25 PARTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROPERTY AND WITH ZION.
11:14:30 BUT BECAUSE THE FACT-FINDING PROCESS HAS ESSENTIALLY
11:14:33 CONCLUDED, THE CITY FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT GIVEN THEIR
11:14:35 DEDICATION TO SHINING LIGHT AND RESTORING THE DIGNITY
11:14:39 TO ZION THAT WE MOVE INTO A NEW PHASE.
11:14:41 THAT PHASE BEING THAT ACTION.
11:14:44 IN ORDER TO START THAT ACTION, WE HAVE DEVELOPED THE
11:14:48 DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
11:14:50 THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT, OUR PROPOSAL TO DO THAT AND OUR
11:14:54 WORK IN DEVELOPING THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, AS
11:14:57 WELL AS BYLAWS IS REALLY SOMETHING WE THINK CAN
11:15:01 LEVERAGE THE -- THE PRIVATE SECTOR, PUBLIC DONATIONS,
11:15:05 PRIVATE DONATIONS, THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN GRANTS IN
11:15:10 ORDER TO DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS WITH ZION.
11:15:14 THE FORMALIZING A NOT-FOR-PROFIT IN IDENTIFYING THE
11:15:21 STRUCTURE OF A BOARD IS VERY IMPORTANT.
11:15:24 WE HAVE MENTIONED TO THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMMITTEE IN
11:15:32 FEBRUARY WE WOULD LIKE THEIR INPUT PAUSE OF A SOLUTION
11:15:35 FOR IDENTIFYING THE STRUCTURE OF THE NORTHWEST FOR
11:15:35 PROFIT.
11:15:39 ONCE THAT IS DONE, WE CAN PROCEED WITH IDENTIFYING THE
11:15:42 GOALS, PRIORITIZING THE GOALS AND IMPLEMENTING THE
11:15:42 GOALS.
11:15:43 THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
11:15:45 THE CITY ACTION PLAN WAS TO ESTABLISH A NOT-FOR-PROFIT
11:15:47 AND WE HAVE GONE SOME WAY WITH DOING THAT.
11:15:50 NUMBER TWO, THE CITY IS COMMITTED IN GOOD FAITH TO
11:15:54 DEPOSIT SEED MONEY, MATCHING THAT OF THE STATE.
11:15:58 AS YOU ALL MAY BE AWARE, THE LEGISLATURE IS CURRENTLY
11:16:02 MOVING TO APPROVE A $50,000 ALLOCATION TOWARD ZION.
11:16:08 THE CITY IS PREPARED, AGAIN, IN GOOD FAITH TO MATCH
11:16:11 THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND FROM THE UNDERSTANDING THAT
11:16:13 THE COUNTY WILL SOLICIT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AND
11:16:18 THAT WILL BRING US TO HOPEFULLY A TOTAL OF $150,000, OF
11:16:21 WHICH THE BOARD OF THIS NOT-FOR-PROFIT CAN, AGAIN,
11:16:25 IDENTIFY, PRIORITIZE AND IMPLEMENT THE GOALS AS FAR AS
11:16:29 HONORING AND RESTORING THE DIGNITY OF THOSE ENTERED AT
11:16:30 ZION.
11:16:33 KNOWING THAT THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE A LONG TIME.
11:16:37 WE HAVE ALSO PROPOSED THE POSSIBILITY OF A TEMPORARY
11:16:38 HEALING MEMORIAL.
11:16:42 SOMETHING TO START THE PROCESS NOW.
11:16:45 TODAY'S TAMPA REALLY DOES WANT TO START THAT PROCESS
11:16:51 NOW, AND WE CAN COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TOWARD THAT END.
11:16:56 SO I THINK I -- I HAVE MENTIONED THE CITY'S PROPOSAL,
11:17:01 AND OPENING TO QUESTIONS AND CERTAINLY KEEP THIS
11:17:04 COUNCIL INFORMED OF ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, AND I WANT
11:17:07 TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
11:17:11 THIS IS DEFINITELY A GOOD PART AND A GOOD PART BY
11:17:13 TAMPA.
11:17:15 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:17:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ATTENDING THOSE
11:17:18 MEETINGS.
11:17:20 I WISH I COULD ATTEND IT BECAUSE THURSDAY WE HAVE
11:17:22 COUNCIL SO I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.
11:17:23 LET ME ASK.
11:17:25 WE TALKED ABOUT ROBLES.
11:17:27 BUT MY CONCERN IS NOT JUST ROBLES.
11:17:33 MY CONCERN ALSO IS THE ADJACENT -- GONZMART OWNS THAT
11:17:34 PROPERTY.
11:17:37 CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT WE ARE KIND OF DOING WITH
11:17:41 HELP WITH THEM AND COLLABORATION AND IN THAT EFFORT?
11:17:44 >> WELL, AGAIN, THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THOSE PROPERTIES.
11:17:48 THEY ARE OWNED BY GONZMART AND CREECH.
11:17:53 THEY HAVE RECENTLY AGREED TO HAVE THE STUDIES ON THEIR
11:17:56 PROPERTIES AND I BELIEVE TO CONFIRM.
11:18:00 WITH CREECH'S PROPERTY, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
11:18:04 PORTION OF HIS PROPERTY THAT ENCOMPASSES ZION DOES NOT
11:18:07 HAVE A STRUCTURE AND IS NOT ACTIVELY USED.
11:18:08 HE IS ABLE TO CLEAR THAT PROPERTY.
11:18:15 AND FOR HIM AND FOR TAMPA HOUSING AND FINDING A
11:18:19 SOLUTION OF CREECH'S PROPERTY IS MUCH MORE SIMPLE OF
11:18:20 MR. GONZMART.
11:18:26 MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS ACTUALLY STRUCTURES BUILT
11:18:28 WHERE THERE SHOULD BE BODIES ENTERED.
11:18:30 AGAIN THESE ARE PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
11:18:33 THE CITY IS UNABLE TO ACTIVELY DO ANYTHING.
11:18:39 FIRST AND FOREMOST.
11:18:42 THOSE PROPERTIES NEED TO BE ASSEMBLED AND WE WILL
11:18:45 LISTEN TO THE BOARD AND FIGURE OUT WHAT STEPS TO TAKE
11:18:45 PLACE.
11:18:48 THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN SAY TO ADDRESS THAT POINT AT
11:18:49 THE TIME.
11:18:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
11:18:55 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUILDINGS, IT'S GOING TO COST TO
11:18:57 MOVE THOSE BUILDINGS.
11:19:03 WHATEVER YOU COME UP.
11:19:06 AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING NOW TO LET THE
11:19:09 COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THE CITY IS SERIOUS ABOUT
11:19:11 MEMORIALIZING THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE.
11:19:13 HOW MUCH MONEY IS ENOUGH.
11:19:16 BECAUSE WHAT I AM SEEING RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW IN
11:19:19 THE LONG HAUL, IT CAN COST A LOT OF MONEY.
11:19:22 SO YOU NEED A BOARD WITH A TRUST TO BE ABLE TO HELP
11:19:26 WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE
11:19:26 HAPPEN.
11:19:33 YOU TALK ABOUT MOVING BUILDINGS, POSSIBLY MOVING
11:19:33 BODIES.
11:19:36 WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO AND MAY COST IN THE LONG RUN.
11:19:39 HOW MUCH MONEY WILL IT COST?
11:19:42 SO I GUESS IN THE LONG RUN, WE WILL FIGURE TO WHAT IT
11:19:43 WILL COST, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE
11:19:47 DOLLARS TO TELL PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT
11:19:49 GOING TO BE ENOUGH FROM WHAT I AM HEARING.
11:19:51 >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
11:19:55 PART OF THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE TO
11:19:58 ESTABLISH WHAT A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE DONE
11:20:02 AND HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO COST AND HAVE A BUDGET.
11:20:05 ONCE WE HAVE A BUDGET AND KNOW THE NEEDS AND WE KNOW
11:20:07 WHAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE WE WILL WORK TOWARD FULFILLING
11:20:08 THOSE NEEDS.
11:20:11 BUT IT IS HARD TO RAISE MONEY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A
11:20:12 PLAN AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BUDGET.
11:20:15 SO THAT WILL BE THE FIRST WORK OF THAT COMMITTEE IS TO
11:20:19 PUT TOGETHER WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE INCLUDING KINDS OF
11:20:22 SPECIFIC COSTS AND WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH THE MEMORIAL
11:20:25 AND COME UP WITH A BUDGET AND SUPPORT THAT BUDGET
11:20:28 THROUGH FUNDING AND FUND RAISING.
11:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN THAT BOARD WILL BE THE SAME WAY
11:20:32 AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MEMORIAL PARK.
11:20:34 MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD TO
11:20:38 RAISE THAT MONEY TO HONOR THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE GONE
11:20:38 ON.
11:20:40 BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
11:20:42 WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY RIGHT NOW, BUT
11:20:46 WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE TO START IN THE HEALING
11:20:49 PROCESS FOR THESE CEMETERIES AND THESE FAMILIES.
11:20:51 THANK YOU.
11:20:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
11:20:57 I JUST WANT TO SAY MISS HARGRETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
11:20:58 FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
11:21:00 I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU
11:21:01 AND WHAT NOT.
11:21:05 AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S LEADERSHIP ON
11:21:05 THIS.
11:21:08 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS EFFORT, I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT
11:21:09 FOR THREE REASONS.
11:21:13 NUMBER ONE, THE CITY IS A MONETARY STAKEHOLDER IN THIS.
11:21:17 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MONETARY INVESTMENTS IN THIS.
11:21:21 NUMBER TWO, THIS APPEARS TO BE A PROCESS NOT TOP DOWN,
11:21:22 BUT BOTTOM UP.
11:21:24 THE IDEA THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT TELLING PEOPLE
11:21:25 WHAT WILL BE IN THIS MEMORIAL.
11:21:28 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER WILL BE
11:21:30 ASKING THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT, THE MOST ACUTELY EFFECTED
11:21:34 COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR FOR OPINIONS ON WHAT SHOULD BE
11:21:35 IN THIS.
11:21:38 AND THIS -- THIS IS JUST THE PREFERENCE OF THE
11:21:39 PREFERENCE.
11:21:42 JUST THE BEGINNING.
11:21:46 LIKE COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID IS JUST THE BEGINNING AND
11:21:49 THE LARGER IDEA IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OF REACHING IN AND
11:21:53 HONORING OUR TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BLACK HISTORY.
11:21:54 BECAUSE IT'S HERE.
11:21:56 IT'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
11:22:01 A LOT OF US MAY NOT KNOW THAT IT IS HERE, BUT IT
11:22:02 CERTAINLY IS HERE.
11:22:05 OVER THE WEEKEND I -- IF YOU KNOW ME, I LIKE TO TAKE MY
11:22:07 SON ON HISTORICAL TRIPS.
11:22:11 AND HE AND I WENT TO MONTGOMERY TO LOOK AT THE NATIONAL
11:22:13 MEMORIAL FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE AND WENT TO SELMA.
11:22:16 WE DID IT OVER ONE DAY AND CAME BACK TO TALLAHASSEE THE
11:22:17 SAME DAY.
11:22:19 I AM VERY AMBITIOUS.
11:22:22 BUT YOU KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS HAD A LOT OF
11:22:27 INJUSTICES AND DIFFERENT NARRATIVES THAT REALLY NEED TO
11:22:30 BE SPELLED OUT AND MEMORIALIZED AND I SALUTE THE CITY
11:22:33 OF TAMPA FOR GETTING THIS STARTED ON THE RIGHT HAND LED
11:22:35 BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
11:22:37 THANK YOU FOR YOUR HEARTFELT WORK.
11:22:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:22:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:22:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID YOU -- HAS THE COMMUNITY BEEN
11:22:47 TALKING ABOUT A MEMORIAL BEING BUILT?
11:22:48 THE IDEA --
11:22:50 >> SORRY, SIR?
11:22:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAS THE COMMUNITY -- AT THE MEETINGS,
11:22:58 THE STAKEHOLDERS TALKING ABOUT MEMORIAL BEING BUILT?
11:23:01 >> WITH RAISED THAT AS A PROPOSAL WILL IN THE VERY LAST
11:23:04 MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO AND PROPOSED THAT AND GAVE THEM
11:23:06 THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND COME BACK WITH
11:23:08 SOME IDEAS.
11:23:11 NOTHING HAS BEEN FORMALIZED.
11:23:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH THE $150,000 WE GOT, HAS ANYBODY
11:23:17 LOOKED AT THE IDEA WHAT A TEMPORARY MEMORIAL COULD BE
11:23:19 UNTIL WE GET THIS ESTABLISHED AND ACTUALLY HAVE A --
11:23:22 WHATEVER IT IS GOING TO BE MEMORIAL AT THAT LOCATION?
11:23:23 >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:23:26 WHICH -- WE HAVE KIND OF HUDDLED AND TRIED TO COME UP
11:23:30 WITH CERTAIN IDEAS WITHIN THE CITY AND CITY ATTORNEY'S
11:23:33 OFFICE; HOWEVER, AGAIN, THE ACTUAL STAKEHOLDERS.
11:23:36 THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE THERE, YOU WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE
11:23:40 AWAY THAT VOICE FOR THEM TO DECIDE WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
11:23:45 SO THAT IS REALLY A DECISION FOR THE ZION FOUNDATION.
11:23:47 TO MAKE.
11:23:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:23:50 AND ALSO, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:23:53 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
11:23:56 YOU HAVE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE, FERVENT AND PASSIONATE
11:23:56 ON THIS.
11:23:58 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
11:23:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:24:08 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 69.
11:24:11 WE ARE DOING WELL WITH TIME WHICH IS GOOD.
11:24:14 >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:24:17 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER
11:24:20 SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
11:24:26 I'M HERE FOR ITEM 69, MOTION FOR THE CITY AND YDCD AND
11:24:34 F DOT TO DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS OF THE TB NEXT
11:24:37 PROJECT IN THE 14 AND 15TH STREET ALIGNMENT.
11:24:42 F DOT IS WRAPPING UP THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL
11:24:44 DOCUMENT FOR THE TAMPA ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
11:24:47 AN EFFORT STARTED IN THE '90S.
11:24:51 THIS RANGES FROM THE WESTSHORE AREA ALL THE WAY TO
11:24:54 DOWNTOWN AND PARTS OF YBOR CITY.
11:24:57 THE WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE PART OF THIS PROJECT IS
11:24:58 FUNDED.
11:25:00 IT IS OVER $1 BILLION.
11:25:02 CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN SOON.
11:25:05 IT BRINGS CRITICAL, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
11:25:09 TRANSPORTATION CONNECTIONS INCLUDING TRAILS, WALK-BIKE
11:25:15 INITIATIVES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH TAMPA'S PLANS.
11:25:19 ON THE EASTERN SIDE WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN AND EAT BORE
11:25:21 CITY PORTION, THERE ARE SOME SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL
11:25:24 IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS EFFORT THAT ARE
11:25:29 NOT FUNDED AT THIS POINT, BUT BROADLY THE CITY SUPPORTS
11:25:33 THIS PROJECT AND THIS PROGRAM.
11:25:36 MAINLY BECAUSE IT THE CONSISTENT ON SURFACE STREETS
11:25:40 WITH OUR WALK-BIKE VISION ZERO AND SUSTAINABILITY AND
11:25:42 RESILIENCE PROGRAMS.
11:25:47 WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH FDOT AND ENSURE THAT THESE
11:25:50 INITIATIVES ARE EXPRESSED ON CITY ROADWAYS.
11:25:55 AS IT RELATES TO THE 14TH AND 15TH STREET CONNECTIONS,
11:25:58 WE SUPPORT THOSE CONNECTIONS AS WELL.
11:26:04 PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY ACTIVATE THE ENTIRE GRID WITHIN
11:26:07 YBOR CITY, CREATE MORE ACCESS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:26:11 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH DOT TO
11:26:16 ENSURE THAT HE PRESERVE AS PART OF ANY ALIGNMENT IN
11:26:17 DOWNTOWN TAMPA AS WELL.
11:26:20 AGAIN ACTIVATION OF THE GRID IS GOOD FOR ECONOMIC
11:26:25 DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, SAFETY IN GENERAL, AND FOR
11:26:26 VITALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:26:29 THE OTHER REASON WE SUPPORT THE ALLIANCE IS CURRENTLY
11:26:34 THE ONLY ACCESS IS 21ST AND 22ND STREET.
11:26:39 THESE STREETS WERE IMPROVED RECENTLY, MADE COMPLETE
11:26:43 STREETS, TRUCKS WERE TAKEN OFF OF THESE STREETS, AND
11:26:46 THEY ARE BETTER FOR IT -- THEY ARE BETTER FOR IT, NO
11:26:47 DOUBT ABOUT IT.
11:26:51 AND AS WE LOOK AT VOLUMES EXPECTED IN 2045, THEY PUT SO
11:26:55 MUCH PRESSURE ON THESE STREETS BUT TO HAVE ONE WAY IN
11:26:58 AND OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL PUT PRESSURE NOT JUST
11:27:02 ON YBOR CITY, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO EAST TO GO BACK
11:27:05 WEST ALONG PALM AND SEVEN WHICH PUTS ADDITIONAL
11:27:09 PRESSURE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BUT ALSO NORTH OF THE
11:27:11 INTERSTATE WHEN YOU LOOK AT EAST TAMPA.
11:27:16 AND THEIR ACCESS TO NOT JUST THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY
11:27:19 BUT ALSO THE INTERSTATE.
11:27:23 IT IS BETTER TO DISSIPATE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT GRID.
11:27:27 AGAIN, WE HAVE TALKED TO F DOT ALONG 14TH AND 15TH.
11:27:32 WE ALREADY HAVE OUR CYCLE TRACK PLAN, WIDER SIDEWALKS
11:27:42 ALONG NUCCIO EXTENDING FROM CASS STREET TO CASCADIAN
11:27:46 PARK AND AGREED TO WORK WITH THESE WITH GREEN
11:27:51 STRUCTURES TO ENSURE THAT MOST FLOODING IS PREVENTED
11:27:55 THROUGH LANDSCAPING AND BETTER GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:27:57 SO THAT IS WHY WE SUPPORT THIS.
11:28:00 WE FEEL IT IS GOOD FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS.
11:28:07 IT IS ALSO PART OF OUR ALL-OF-THE-ABOVE STRATEGY.
11:28:10 RECOGNIZE THAT TRANSIT IS IMPORTANT, ACTIVE
11:28:13 TRANSPORTATION IS IMPORTANT BUT AT THE SAME TIME
11:28:17 FACILITATING THESE CONNECTIONS ARE ALSO BORN TO GET US
11:28:19 TO A BETTER PLACE AS FAR AS MOBILITY GOES.
11:28:23 WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:28:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:28:25 BEFORE COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:28:29 I WANTED TO REMIND IF ANY STAFF IS WAITING ON ANY ITEM.
11:28:33 AFTER WE ARE FINISH TODAY THIS RUN TO 63 AND 64 BEFORE
11:28:34 LUNCH.
11:28:36 VERY QUICKLY IF YOU WERE WAITING ON ANYTHING AFTER THIS
11:28:38 ONE IT WON'T COME UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.
11:28:41 FYI FOR PURPOSES OF SCHEDULING.
11:28:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:28:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT
11:28:46 THIS EXIT.
11:28:50 AND MY MAIN BEEF EARLY ON AND I TOLD THE SECRETARY WHEN
11:28:54 I MET WITH HIM IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT 21ST STREET AND
11:28:56 22ND STREET EXIT WOULD NOT BE CLOSED.
11:29:00 I GOT GUARANTEES THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:29:04 NOW WE COME TO 14TH AND 15TH STREET.
11:29:08 AND MY QUESTION TO YOU AS THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE, HAVE
11:29:16 WE GOT WITH THE D.C., THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN D.C., THE
11:29:20 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE V BOARD, THE RESIDENCE THAT
11:29:23 WILL IMPACT -- THAT WILL BE IMPACTED.
11:29:26 I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE PEOPLE, THE ACTIVISTS.
11:29:30 I MEAN THAT COMMUNITY, HAVE WE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE
11:29:31 AS THE CITY TO DO THAT?
11:29:35 BECAUSE I AM GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN -- THE SECRETARY
11:29:38 WHEN HE COMES UP HERE THE SAME QUESTIONS.
11:29:42 HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT IT WILL
11:29:45 ADVERSELY EFFECT.
11:29:48 >>VIK BHIDE: A VERY GOOD QUESTION COUNCILMAN.
11:29:52 THIS BEING F DOT'S PROJECT, WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH F
11:29:57 DOT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT QAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH WAS
11:29:57 BON.
11:30:00 AS YOU ARE AWARE I WAS AT THE EAST TAMPA MEETING TO
11:30:03 DISCUSS THE SAME ISSUE AND PROVIDE OUR PERSPECTIVE AS
11:30:03 WELL.
11:30:07 AS FAR AS OUR OWN VISION AND PROJECTS ARE CONCERNED, IT
11:30:12 BE AT GREEN SPINE OR THE GREEN ARTERY THAT CONNECTS TO
11:30:20 THE NORTH OF CASCADIAN PARK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
11:30:23 WE HAVE DONE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND STUDIES AND
11:30:25 PUBLISHED OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS AS WELL.
11:30:29 AND TO THAT END, WE ARE A PARTNER IN THE OUTREACH
11:30:33 EFFORTS THAT FDOT HAS DONE AND INTENDED AND HAVE BEEN
11:30:34 IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:30:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY LETTERS FROM THE CHAMBER DOWN
11:30:39 THERE?
11:30:45 THE YDRB OR ANYTHING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A GOOD
11:30:46 OR A BAD IDEA?
11:30:48 THAT IS THE THING THAT HAS WORKED, WHAT IS RIGHT FOR
11:30:48 THE COMMUNITY.
11:30:51 DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AT ALL?
11:30:54 >>VIK BHIDE: WE DON'T HAVE LETTERS SPECIFIC TO THIS
11:30:57 PROJECT, AGAIN, PARTLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUR PROJECT,
11:31:00 BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY,
11:31:07 AND, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD SUPPORT AS WELL AS CONCERNS.
11:31:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COURTNEY IS HERE WITH THE CRA?
11:31:11 MISS ORR?
11:31:14 CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
11:31:17 I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
11:31:21 >> COURTNEY, I DIDN'T CALL YOU UP HERE.
11:31:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SECRETARY IS UP HERE TOO.
11:31:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE NEXT.
11:31:27 >> I CAN SPEAK TO YOU IN A MINUTE IF YOU WANT ME TO.
11:31:29 I CAN SIT DOWN.
11:31:34 >> COURTNEY ORR, CRA MANAGER IN YBOR CITY.
11:31:37 WE SUBMITTED A LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL FOR STRONG
11:31:37 CONCERNS.
11:31:40 THE LETTER WAS NECESSARILY STATING OPPOSITION BUT
11:31:41 STRONG CONCERNS.
11:31:43 I THINK THE MORE EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT THE EFFECTS WOULD
11:31:48 BE WITH THE TRAFFIC LOAD AND THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS
11:31:51 IN THE HCC AREA WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME CONCERNS.
11:31:56 I KNOW THAT HE HAS REACHED OUT SPECIFICALLY TO HCC AND
11:31:58 HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THE WESTERN
11:32:00 FRINGE.
11:32:02 SO YOU MAY WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
11:32:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OPPOSITION, BUT
11:32:07 JUST CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT?
11:32:10 >> WELL, THAT WAS HOW THE LETTER WAS DRAFTED.
11:32:14 THAT THEY ARE -- THERE ARE STRONG CONCERNS.
11:32:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAS THE SECRETARY ADDRESSED THOSE
11:32:18 CONCERNS WITH THOSE GROUPS?
11:32:21 HAVE THEY BEEN ADDRESSED YESTERDAY.
11:32:26 >> SECRETARY DAVID GWYNN.
11:32:28 STATE DISTRICT 7.
11:32:29 WE MET A LOT.
11:32:33 COUNCILMAN, WE MET WITH YOU AND TOOK EVEN MORE.
11:32:36 WE NOT ONLY MET WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND GONE DOOR TO
11:32:39 DOOR IN THE AREAS RIGHT AROUND THAT AREA TO GET SOME
11:32:41 OPINIONS FROM THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE MOST DIRECTLY
11:32:42 IMPACTED.
11:32:48 WE DID -- WE GET SOME CONCERNS FROM A VARIETY OF FOLKS.
11:32:56 WE MET WITH HCC, WITH CAMPUS PRESIDENT TO EXPLAIN WHAT
11:32:57 IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE.
11:33:04 I WOULDN'T SAY SHE WAS OUT IN SUPPORT BUT SHE SAID THEY
11:33:05 SHOULDN'T OPPOSED.
11:33:09 ONE THING A MISUNDERSTANDING, THE LAST MEETING A
11:33:12 STATEMENT THAT THE NEW RAMP WILL PLACE 29,000 VEHICLES
11:33:15 A DAY ON NUCCIO PARKWAY.
11:33:23 THE FACT IS 29,000 CARS IN NUCCIO PARKWAY IN 2025, BUT
11:33:25 3,000 OF THOSE BECAUSE OF RAMP CHANGE.
11:33:27 THE REST OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS
11:33:28 PLANNED DOWN THERE.
11:33:30 THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COME REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO
11:33:31 WITH THE INTERSTATE.
11:33:35 AND OUR WILL BE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE THOSE
11:33:38 STREETS CALMER, TO MAKE SURE THAT PEDESTRIANS AND
11:33:42 BICYCLES ARE PROTECTED AND NOT INSIDE THE MAIN ROADWAY.
11:33:48 NOT AS EASY AS IT IS TO GO VERY FAST TO NARROW THEM UP,
11:33:51 STREETSCAPE THEM MAKING IT THAT PEDESTRIANS HAVE
11:33:52 PROTECTED CROSSINGS.
11:33:54 YOU SAW TODAY WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS.
11:33:59 ONE FROM THE CHAMBERS -- ONE FROM THE BEE OR CHAMBER
11:34:04 AND FROM ALLEN TEMPLE THAT SAID THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF
11:34:04 THE PROJECT.
11:34:07 MOST OF THE PEOPLE WE TALKED TO SAID THEY WOULD LIKE
11:34:10 THE ADDITIONAL OPTION TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE,
11:34:13 BUT THEY ALSO WERE -- WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING
11:34:16 TO LOOK AT SAFETY, BECAUSE THEY SAID WE ARE CONCERNED
11:34:18 OF MAKING SURE.
11:34:20 THAT IS TASK.
11:34:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS THE TIMELINE?
11:34:26 IS THERE A TIMELINE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
11:34:29 COMMUNITY SAYING WHAT THEY REALLY WANT TO SAY FOR YOUR
11:34:31 PROJECT OR THE POTENTIAL PROJECT?
11:34:33 >> THE SCIS IS IN.
11:34:35 WE JUST HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS LAST WEEK.
11:34:38 IT IS GOING FOR FINAL APPROVAL TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
11:34:39 ADMINISTRATION.
11:34:41 WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THAT WITHIN -- I WOULD SAY THE
11:34:42 NEXT SIX MONTHS.
11:34:45 AFTER THAT, WE TECHNICALLY COULD BUILD THE PROJECTS IF
11:34:47 THE MONEY WAS AVAILABLE.
11:34:51 OUR -- RIGHT NOW, THE PROJECTS ARE NOT FUNDED WHICH
11:34:55 MEANS THEY ARE NOT IN OUR FIVE-YEAR WORK PLAN, BUT FOR
11:34:58 SOME REASON, MONEY WAS TO BECOME AVAILABLE SAY A
11:35:00 PROJECT IN MIAMI WAS TO BE CANCELLED FOR SOME REASON OR
11:35:04 JACKSONVILLE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE TEND TO TRY TO HAVE
11:35:06 PROJECTS READY TO GET THAT MONEY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
11:35:09 SO WE WOULD HAVE THE PROJECTS READY TO GO, BUT THEY ARE
11:35:10 NOT FUNDED YET.
11:35:15 WE ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT FUNDING IN THE NEW FIFTH
11:35:18 OR SIXTH YEAR IN THE PROCESSES.
11:35:22 IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE AND READY TO USE IT, WOULD
11:35:23 TRY TO GET THE MONEY.
11:35:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST QUESTION.
11:35:29 THE OTHER NIGHT WE HAD SEVERAL -- I WAS SURPRISED.
11:35:32 MOST OF THE EAST ASSOCIATION, TAMPA HEIGHTS AND
11:35:37 EVERYONE WAS THERE FOR THAT MEETING AND SOME HAD AHS
11:35:38 AND UMS.
11:35:45 BUT ONE LADY IN PARTICULAR, THE EAST TAMPA CAC CHAIR,
11:35:48 BROUGHT UP WHAT I THOUGHT WAS VALID INFORMATION AS IT
11:35:50 RELATES TO SCOTT STREET.
11:35:54 I WENT HOME THAT NIGHT THINKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN, YBOR AS
11:36:03 WELL, AND IN THAT AREA FOR SCOTT STREET.
11:36:08 DID WE GO BACK AT ALL IN REFERENCE TO SCOTT STREET?
11:36:09 >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
11:36:11 WE WILL CERTAINLY DIRECT MORE PEOPLE TO THAT.
11:36:14 THE CHALLENGE IS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING OUGHT 25 YEARS.
11:36:17 WHEN WE BUILD A PROJECT, WE WANT IT TO LAST FOR THAT
11:36:18 AMOUNT OF TIME.
11:36:22 BY THAT TIME, ALL -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS ALL
11:36:22 OF THE RAMPS.
11:36:25 WE ARE GOING TO NEED ALL WE CAN GET TO GET TRAFFIC IN
11:36:26 AND OUT.
11:36:29 AND WE WILL DEFINITELY WANT TO USE THAT ONE AS WELL.
11:36:33 THIS ONE IS ONE WE THINK WE CAN GET BUILT AND HAVE IT
11:36:35 DONE IN A SAFE MANNER.
11:36:38 AND I THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY BECOME AN ASSET BECAUSE
11:36:41 INSTEAD OF PEOPLE HAVING TO GO THE LONG WAY AND GO
11:36:44 THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND SIDE STREETS TO GET BACK AND
11:36:48 FORTH, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO TO HCC AND SOME OF
11:36:50 THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA WILL HAVE AN EASY
11:36:54 ACCESS AND WON'T HAVE TO GO AND BACKTRACK AND ADD TO
11:36:55 PALM, TO 7TH.
11:36:57 IT GETS THEM TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO WITH LESS
11:37:00 VEHICLES MILES OF TRAVEL IS WHAT IT COULD DO.
11:37:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:37:04 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN
11:37:05 DINGFELDER.
11:37:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:10 NO SECRET I HAVE BEEN OPPOSED TO THIS FOR QUITE SOME
11:37:10 TIME.
11:37:13 SECRETARY, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE.
11:37:14 PLEASE, AND THANK YOU.
11:37:16 BUT I SEE THE HANDWRITING ON THE WALL.
11:37:21 AND THE CONCERNS THAT I AM HEARING ARE FOR PUBLIC
11:37:23 SAFETY.
11:37:26 AND TO ENSURE -- LET ME DIGRESS.
11:37:33 I APOLOGIZE -- THAT WHEN I WAS WITH THE YDC.
11:37:37 WE TOOK OVER -- THE CITY OF TAMPA TOOK OVER 21ST AND
11:37:38 22ND STREET.
11:37:40 AND WE WERE CONCERNED THAT THE DIVERSIONS OF PEOPLE
11:37:44 EXITING ON 21ST AND 22ND STREET WAS TAKING AWAY THE
11:37:46 POSSIBILITY OF RETAIL.
11:37:49 MY UNDERSTANDING THE CITY'S VIEW ON THIS THAT THE 14TH,
11:37:54 15TH STREET WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO TRAVEL
11:37:58 WITHIN YBOR, WITHIN YBOR PROPER, WITHIN PARTS OF EAST
11:38:02 TAMPA AND TAKE AN EXIT ON 14TH AND 15TH STREET TO GET
11:38:03 TO HCC.
11:38:06 GET TO ANYTHING UP AND DOWN NUCCIO PARKWAY.
11:38:10 GET TO ANYTHING UP 14TH AND 15TH STREET ON -- ON -- IN
11:38:11 V M YBOR.
11:38:15 BUT I REFLECT BACK ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:38:19 AND I AM HOPING THAT YOU, SECRETARY GWYNN, WILL MAKE
11:38:23 SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT IN YOUR EFFORTS, TO
11:38:27 MAKE THIS PROPER, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HELP REDUCE
11:38:30 SPEED LIMITS ALONG THE ROADS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY
11:38:31 14TH, 15TH STREET.
11:38:38 THAT YOU AND FDOT WILL ADD PEDESTRIAN CROSS.
11:38:42 THAT YOU AND FDOT WILL UPGRADE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN
11:38:43 CROSSINGS.
11:38:47 PUT WARNING SIGNALS ON PAVEMENT MARKINGS.
11:38:50 MAKE SURE FLASHING BEACONS, PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS AND MAKE
11:38:54 SURE THAT LANDSCAPING IS THERE, AND MAKE SURE DEFINITE
11:38:57 AND CONCISE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC ON WHAT IS
11:39:00 BEING DONE AND HAVE THEIR INPUT PUT IN.
11:39:04 IF FDOT T WILL MOVE FORWARD IN THIS OPTION THOSE ARE
11:39:08 THE THINGS THAT I AM ASKING AND THE DEPARTMENT WITH THE
11:39:12 CITY OF TAMPA, TO ASSURE A TRAFFIC CALMING, BECAUSE
11:39:14 THIS IS GOING TO CREATE MORE OF A PROBLEM, IN MY
11:39:18 OPINION, WITH THESE CARS COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE
11:39:20 SPEEDING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:39:23 WITH TRAFFIC CALMING AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS
11:39:28 ARE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
11:39:32 AGAIN, I HAVE NOT BEEN WITH THIS FROM THE BEGINNING.
11:39:35 I HAVE BEEN TO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE SAW
11:39:38 ONE ANOTHER AT COMMUNITY THINGS.
11:39:40 BUT THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING FOR.
11:39:47 AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GREEN SPINE IS NOT EFFECTED.
11:39:50 >> WE WILL COMMIT TO THAT IN FACT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND
11:39:53 ANOTHER $700 TODAY 800 TO PUT TOWARD THE GREEN SPINE TO
11:39:56 BE DIVERTED FROM SAVINGS ON OTHER PROJECTS.
11:39:59 WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO GET ALL OF THAT, AND WE
11:40:00 WILL COMMIT TO THAT.
11:40:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN BACK WHEN I WAS ON YCDC, SIX
11:40:09 YEARS AGO THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, FORGIVE ME FOR SAYING
11:40:14 THIS, THIS IS STILL PART OF A PROJECT FROM 1995.
11:40:17 LET'S TAKE WHAT IS ON THE TABLE, WIPE IT CLEAN.
11:40:20 NOW I CAN'T SAY THIS BECAUSE I AM ON ANOTHER BOARD WITH
11:40:23 THESE TWO OTHER GENTLEMEN HERE, TWO OTHER
11:40:24 COUNCILMEMBERS HERE.
11:40:30 BUT ON ALL OF YOUR PICTURES, LITTLE TINY PICTURES UP
11:40:34 HERE UNTB NEXT.
11:40:35 I DON'T SEE RAIL.
11:40:38 TAKE EVERYTHING OFF THE TABLE, AND THE NEXT PROJECT
11:40:41 THAT FDOT, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS TO
11:40:45 START THINKING ABOUT IS SOME SORT OF RAIL.
11:40:48 BRINGING THE COMMUTERS FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA INTO THE
11:40:51 CITY OF TAMPA.
11:40:52 I AM DONE RANTING, MR. CHAIR.
11:40:54 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT.
11:40:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:40:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:41:01 JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:41:07 I HAVEN'T DECIDED HOW I -- THE CONCLUSION ON THIS 14TH
11:41:08 AND 15TH.
11:41:09 I AM GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION.
11:41:12 I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING TO SEE ME LAST WEEK ON THIS
11:41:14 REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
11:41:17 ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT IS, YOU
11:41:23 INDICATE WITH THE VARIOUS ACRONYMS, BUT THE SEIS
11:41:27 PROCESS IS WRAPPING UP OR FINISHED, AND NOW IT GOES TO
11:41:28 WASHINGTON.
11:41:31 DO THEY TAKE FURTHER INPUT?
11:41:35 IF FOLKS WANT TO GIVE THEM DIRECT INPUT TO WASHINGTON,
11:41:37 THAT STILL AN OPEN PROCESS?
11:41:37 >> YES.
11:41:40 AND WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS LAST WEEK.
11:41:43 THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS STILL OPEN.
11:41:45 ED, DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT ENDS?
11:41:47 30 DAYS?
11:41:49 SOMEWHERE TOWARD THE END OF THIS MONTH AND IT WILL
11:41:49 ACTUALLY END.
11:41:52 YOU CAN SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING,
11:41:57 WE PROVIDED A COURT REPORTER WHO WAS RECORDING IF
11:41:59 PEOPLE MADE ORAL STATEMENTS AND WRITTEN STATEMENTS.
11:42:02 OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THEY HAVE BEEN
11:42:05 PLUCKED IN THE WHOLE TIME AND NOT LIKE THEY GET HAND
11:42:06 THIS AND REVIEW IT.
11:42:08 THEY HAVE REVIEWED IT THE WHOLE WAY.
11:42:12 THEY SIGN THE DRAFT DOCUMENT WHICH IS WHAT WE WENT TO
11:42:13 PUBLIC HEARING WITH.
11:42:17 WE DIDN'T GO UNLESS THEY INSIDE OFF WITH THE DRAFT
11:42:17 DOCUMENT.
11:42:21 NOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO TO FINALIZE THE DOCUMENT
11:42:25 AND ONE FINAL REVIEW IN TALLAHASSEE AND HOME OFFICE IN
11:42:31 DC, AND ALL THIS GOES WELL AT THIS POINT, WE WILL HAVE
11:42:32 FINAL RECORD OF DECISION.
11:42:35 ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE HAD ABOUT 15 PEOPLE MAKE
11:42:37 PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:42:41 IT WAS ABOUT 50% POSITIVE.
11:42:42 50% NEGATIVE.
11:42:46 CERTAINLY NOT WHAT IT WAS YEARS AGO -- BEFORE WE MADE
11:42:47 CHANGES LIKE REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE DOWNTOWN
11:42:52 INTERCHANGE, PUTTING BACK IN FLORIBRASKA AND MAKING
11:42:57 OTHER MODIFICATIONS BROUGHT TO US BY THE PUBLIC.
11:42:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THE
11:43:03 PROCESS AND IN A FORUM LIKE THIS, IT IS EXTREME
11:43:07 IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING ON
11:43:10 AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT THROUGH THIS
11:43:15 FEDERAL PROCESS.
11:43:20 DID THE MPO TAKE AN OFFICIAL POSITION ON THIS?
11:43:23 IS THAT THEIR PLACE TO DO SO?
11:43:26 >> THE MPO DID SUPPORT -- ONE, THEY SUPPORTED THE
11:43:30 WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE AND APPROVED HAVING THE PROJECTS
11:43:32 IN THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
11:43:36 SO EFFECTIVELY THE MPO HAS ENDORSED THOSE PROJECTS TO
11:43:39 GO INTO THE TRANSPORTATION PROCESS.
11:43:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THIS EXIT,
11:43:45 THE 14TH AND 15TH STREET WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUNDLE
11:43:48 THAT THE MPO VOTED ON?
11:43:51 >> THAT WAS PART OF THE ENTIRE TWO PROJECTS OREGON
11:43:55 LESS, THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE AND WESTSHORE
11:43:58 INTERCHANGE THAT WAS PRESENTED.
11:43:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:44:01 HAND IN HAND WITH THAT AND SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC AND
11:44:04 APPRECIATE A LITTLE INDULGENCE.
11:44:07 THE LAST TIME YOUR FOLKS WERE HERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF
11:44:10 YOU WERE HERE OR NOT, THE ISSUE OF THE TOLL LANES.
11:44:14 THE SO-CALLED LEXUS LANES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
11:44:18 I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS YOU OR
11:44:21 SOMEBODY ELSE THAT SAID THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN, QUOTE,
11:44:26 APPROVED COMING OFF THE BRIDGE FROM PINELLAS IN THE
11:44:31 FUTURE UP UNTIL I THINK SOMEBODY SAID THE RIVER.
11:44:33 THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.
11:44:37 I HAVE BEEN PRETTY -- LONG BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT TO
11:44:42 TAMPA, I WAS ADAMANT OPPOSED TO TOLLING ANY PART OF OUR
11:44:48 -- ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO TOLLING OF ANY LANES IN THE
11:44:51 CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE HAVE AN INPUT ON.
11:44:55 I WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHAT WAS MEANT FOR THAT
11:44:57 AND THE PROCESS OF MAKING THAT DECISION.
11:45:02 I APOLOGIZE IT IS SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC AND RELATED TO THE
11:45:03 BIG PICTURE.
11:45:06 >> THE VARIABLE TOLL LANES WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD IN THE
11:45:11 SEIS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING AND USED AS CONGESTION
11:45:14 MANAGEMENT TOOL IS ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED THROUGHOUT THE
11:45:14 PROCESS.
11:45:17 IT IS THE ONE THAT WE GOT -- ONE OF THE THINGS WE
11:45:22 WANTED TO DO WAS TO GET AS MUCH INPUT FROM THE REGION.
11:45:25 THE WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE IS A REGIONAL PROJECT.
11:45:28 I KNOW IT IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT
11:45:31 AND WEST TAMPA, ABOUT YOU A REGIONAL PROJECT THAT
11:45:35 CONNECTS VETERANS EXPRESSWAY TO COURTNEY CAMPBELL
11:45:40 CAUSEWAY, THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, I-275, SORT OF
11:45:42 THE MIDPOINT WHERE EVERYTHING COMES TOGETHER.
11:45:45 SO WORKSHOP ABLE TO GET -- WANTED TO GET SUPPORT AND
11:45:47 NONSUPPORT AND WE GOT SUPPORT FROM LITERALLY
11:45:54 ESSENTIALLY EVERYONE OF THE CITIES AND COUNTIES, MPOS,
11:45:57 BUSINESS GROUPS IN THE ENTIRE REGION, AND PART OF THE
11:46:01 REASON I BELIEVE TO GET THE 1.4 BILLION TO BRING TO THE
11:46:01 PROJECT.
11:46:05 SO THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY ESSENTIALLY EVERY AGENCY
11:46:07 THAT WE HAVE ASKED TO SUPPORT IT.
11:46:11 AND NOT JUST HERE, BUT IN PINELLAS COUNTY, PASCO
11:46:13 COUNTY, THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
11:46:15 SO THAT'S BEEN IN THERE.
11:46:17 DOES IT MEAN THAT IT ALWAYS WILL HAVE TO BE A VARIABLE
11:46:18 TOLL LANE?
11:46:20 NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT.
11:46:23 WHAT IT MEANS THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SHOWING OUT THE
11:46:26 CONGESTION MANAGEMENT TOOL FOR THE EXPRESS LANES TO
11:46:29 KEEP IT FROM BECOMING LIKE THE OTHER LANES.
11:46:32 IN THE FUTURE AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, WE MAY BE ABLE TO
11:46:35 DO THINGS THAT YOU CAN DETECT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN A
11:46:38 VEHICLE AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR HOV PASSENGERS.
11:46:42 WE CAN ALLOW IT TO LET CONNECTED OR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES
11:46:44 THAT TRAVEL MUCH CLOSER TOGETHER.
11:46:47 MAYBE AT SOME POINT A LANE WILL BE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
11:46:50 I CAN'T REALLY TELL WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT
11:46:53 RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE CONCEPT THAT HAS BEEN USE IN
11:46:57 ORDER TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE EXPRESS LANES WORK.
11:47:01 AND ALSO TRANSIT IS ALLOWED TO GO FREE IN THE EXPRESS
11:47:01 LANES.
11:47:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR WHERE I
11:47:06 STAND ON IN.
11:47:08 YOU SAID YOU GOTTEN THE CITY'S APPROVAL.
11:47:11 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL EVER VOTED ON IT.
11:47:15 >> NO, I BELIEVE WE HAVE GOTTEN THE MAYOR'S SUPPORT.
11:47:20 I AM NOT SURE IF WE -- IF WE EVER CAME TO CITY COUNCIL.
11:47:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE MPO WITH REGARD TO
11:47:26 THE EXPRESS LANES AND THE DOCTOR MORE IMPORTANTLY THE
11:47:29 -- WHATEVER YOU CALL -- THE --
11:47:31 >> VARIABLE TOLL LANE.
11:47:32 THAT IS.
11:47:33 THEY DID SUPPORT THAT.
11:47:35 THAT WAS PART OF THE PROJECT.
11:47:40 WE DID ONE POINT SAID -- THAT VARIABLE TOLL MONEY IS
11:47:43 NOT REALLY TO RAISE REVENUE.
11:47:46 IT IS TO UPKEEP THE SYSTEM, BUT THE REST OF IT LIKE
11:47:48 THEY DO IN MIAMI CAN GO TO TRANSIT.
11:47:52 WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN MIAMI FOR THE EXIT TOLL REVENUE
11:47:57 IS USING TO SUPPORT THE EXPRESS LANE BUS TRANSIT
11:47:58 SYSTEM.
11:48:00 WHICH HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
11:48:04 A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THE EXPRESS BUS AND
11:48:07 EXPRESS LANES IN SOUTH FLORIDA CARRY MORE PASSENGER PER
11:48:08 DAY THAN SUN RAIL DOES.
11:48:10 IT IS VERY POPULAR.
11:48:15 AND I THINK IT COULD WORK HERE AS WELL.
11:48:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT COULD WORK BUT BEFORE --
11:48:22 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY QUICK IF WE MAY COUNCILMAN
11:48:25 DINGFELDER.
11:48:27 WRAP UP THE TOLL LANE ISSUE.
11:48:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS MY LAST STATEMENT.
11:48:32 THIS IS ALL ABOUT EQUITY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
11:48:36 DISCUSSIONS OF EQUITY AND FAIRNESS IN THIS BODY, AND I
11:48:37 THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
11:48:41 SOMEBODY MENTIONED -- WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO GET DEEP
11:48:47 INTO IT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT EQUITABLE AND FAIR
11:48:52 TO CHARGE -- POTENTIALLY BE CHARGING POOR PEOPLE WHO
11:48:55 CAN BARELY AFFORD THE CAR AND THE UPKEEP ON THE CAR AND
11:48:56 THE GAS AND ETC.
11:48:59 TO NOW CHARGE THEM FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING IN THAT
11:49:01 FASTER LANE.
11:49:06 AND WHY SHOULDN'T POOR PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO BE IN THAT
11:49:06 FASTER LANE.
11:49:09 AND NOBODY HAS EVER GIVEN ME A GOOD EXPLANATION.
11:49:13 YES, CAN YOU ZIP CARS THROUGH FASTER THROUGH THE
11:49:15 COMMUNITY BY DOING THAT?
11:49:15 PROBABLY.
11:49:19 I AM SURE YOU CAN PROVE THAT WITH VARIOUS MODELS.
11:49:23 BUT NOBODY IN MY OPINION HAS EVER ADDRESSED THE
11:49:27 FAIRNESS ISSUE.
11:49:31 NOW IN A MEETING, I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU AND WE HAD A
11:49:36 QUICK DISCUSSION ABOUT -- MAYBE SOME WAY TO GIVE PEOPLE
11:49:41 COUPONS OR SOME TYPE OF -- PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE POOR,
11:49:46 AND OTHERWISE COULDN'T USE THOSE LANES TO SUBSIDIZE
11:49:49 THEM THROUGH SOME SYSTEM.
11:49:54 BUT THAT SOUNDS VERY COMPLEX.
11:49:56 IN REGARD TO DOING THAT.
11:49:59 WITHOUT SOME WAY TO ADDRESS THE EQUITY AND FAIRNESS,
11:50:05 LET'S NEW AT CONVERSELY, TO ADDRESS THE UNFAIRNESS OF
11:50:07 THOSE LEXUS LANES.
11:50:08 YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
11:50:11 AND I HOPE THIS COUNCIL AND THAT MAYOR CAN'T SUPPORT
11:50:12 IT.
11:50:15 AND FRANKLY I HOPE THAT WE DON'T DO IT ANYWHERE IN THE
11:50:17 CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:50:19 THAT IS MY SOAPBOX.
11:50:20 THANK YOU.
11:50:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:50:23 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST.
11:50:25 THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST
11:50:28 FEW YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE.
11:50:31 THE COMMUNITY HAVEN'T GOTTEN EVERYTHING THEY WANTED AND
11:50:32 GIVEN THEM SOME.
11:50:35 I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU LISTEN.
11:50:37 AND IN PARTICULAR FOR ISSUES LIKE REOPENING
11:50:41 FLORIBRASKA.
11:50:45 YOU AND I TALKED AND I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK
11:50:48 FROM THIS COMMUNITY BUT I WOULD BE AGAINST THE EXIT AND
11:50:50 I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR IT.
11:50:53 IF ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, I WILL SUPPORT IT.
11:50:56 BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING TO TRY TO LISTEN TO
11:50:58 THE COMMUNITY AND WORK OUT MORE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY
11:50:59 WANTS, THANK YOU.
11:51:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
11:51:06 STANDING THERE AND YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT COME IN HERE
11:51:08 FROM TIME TO TIME FOR BEING ABLE TO STAND THERE.
11:51:09 YOU TOUCHED ON IT.
11:51:10 YOU AGREED TO IT.
11:51:13 BUT I AM GOING TO ASK ONE MORE TIME.
11:51:16 FDOT WORK WITH THE CITY OF TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO
11:51:20 ENSURE THAT ADDITIONAL CALMING AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY
11:51:23 IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT
11:51:25 WITH THE PRIORITY ON SAFETY.
11:51:28 AND CLEAR SIGNAGE TO REDUCE CONFUSION FOR DRIVERS IN
11:51:29 ANY AREA.
11:51:32 ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THIS SIGN -- EXCUSE ME, WHEN THE
11:51:36 DESIGN SUNDAY WAY THAT FDOT GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY
11:51:39 AND WITH THE PROPOSED SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AND FEATURES.
11:51:40 WILL YOU DO THAT FOR US?
11:51:41 >> YES, SIR.
11:51:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE -- WAS THE CITY
11:51:48 AND F DOT LOOKING FOR A VOTE TODAY?
11:51:51 >>LUIS VIERA: NOT NECESSARILY, NO.
11:51:56 JUST BE HEARD AND TAKING VOTES AT THE END.
11:52:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ASK THE IS HE AND OUR CITY VOTES TO
11:52:05 PROVIDE SOME DOCUMENTATION FROM THE CHAMBER, THE YCDC
11:52:09 AND THE CRAS AND SOMETHING TOWARD SO WE KNOW WHAT 9
11:52:11 COMMUNITY -- IF THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION OR NOT.
11:52:15 THAT WOULD EASE MY MIND AND SAFETY CONCERNS THAT
11:52:20 COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID AND GETTING THE LETTER FROM A LAN
11:52:21 TEMPLE TODAY.
11:52:23 THAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME.
11:52:25 I WILL BE HONEST TO YOU.
11:52:28 AN AFFLUENT CHURCH WITH A LOT OF MEMBERS AND NOT THAT
11:52:32 IT HAS BEARING OR NOT BUT SURPRISED FROM THE LETTER I
11:52:33 DID RECEIVE FROM HIM.
11:52:37 WHAT I WILL AGREE WITH MR. CITRO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
11:52:37 PLANS.
11:52:42 THE CITY HAS ALL THESE PLANS THAT ARE ON SHELVES AND
11:52:45 DUSTED OFF AND THEY ARE OUTDATED.
11:52:47 THEY ARE ALL OUTDATED.
11:52:50 WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE RAIL --
11:52:53 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT 25%.
11:52:55 THAT IS KEY THAT 25%.
11:52:56 50 FROM THE FEDS.
11:52:58 25 FROM THE STATE.
11:53:01 25 FROM LOCAL COUNTY.
11:53:05 AND I TOLD YOU PUBLICLY AND LIKE I TOLD YOU.
11:53:09 THERE NEEDS TO BE A MEETING -- NOT WITH THE MPO BUT THE
11:53:13 REAL STAKEHOLDERS, THIS COUNCIL, THE COMMISSION, TEMPLE
11:53:15 TERRACE, PLANT CITY.
11:53:18 WE ALL NEED TO BE AS A BODY TO DISCUSS THE NEXT PLANS
11:53:22 AND WHAT WE THINK OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO SEE
11:53:25 SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT PERTAINS TO RAIL, THE RAILROADS.
11:53:28 AND THAT WAY YOU ARE NOT HEARING FROM DIFFERENT BODIES
11:53:29 AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:53:33 NOT THE MPO, BUT THE ONES WHO -- YOU COME TO ASK FOR
11:53:36 APPROVAL AND ASK FOR OUR BLESSINGS.
11:53:39 YOU ARE NOT MEETING WITH US AS A WHOLE BODY, BECAUSE
11:53:43 YOU CAN'T GET ONE SET IDEAS OR ANOTHER.
11:53:46 AND YOU HAVE TO COLLECTIVELY GET IDEAS TO FIGHT IT OUT
11:53:49 THERE AND NOW YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THE CITIZEN OF TAMPA,
11:53:55 FOR RAIL, FOR STREET CAR, WHATEVER HAS TO HAPPEN.
11:53:59 AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IN THOSE RULES.
11:54:01 YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE MIDDLE UNDONE.
11:54:05 YOU CAN'T START OVER HERE AND THERE AND IT HAS TO START
11:54:07 WHERE THE ACTUAL TRACKS ARE OUT AND THAT IS AT THE
11:54:08 MIDDLE.
11:54:11 EVERYBODY HAS AN EQUAL BALANCE TO WHATEVER MODE OF
11:54:13 TRANSPORTATION THAT WE DESIRE.
11:54:16 BUT I AM ASKING YOU AND THE CITY TO SOMEHOW COME UP
11:54:21 WITH A STRATEGY TO GET ALL THE COMMISSIONS TOGETHER FOR
11:54:25 -- FOR A MEETING SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES IN
11:54:26 THE NEAR FUTURE.
11:54:27 SOONER THAN LATER.
11:54:28 I THINK THEY ARE IMPORTANT.
11:54:29 THANK YOU.
11:54:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
11:54:31 WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:54:34 I GO BACK TO ONE THING THAT I SAID LAST YEAR WHEN THIS
11:54:37 ISSUE CAME UP, THE GLUE THAT WILL HOLD A LOT OF THESE
11:54:39 THINGS TOGETHER IS THAT PENNY SALES TAX.
11:54:43 AND I JUST GO BACK TO THAT ISSUE WHICH IS, WE TALK
11:54:47 ABOUT THINGS LIKE RAIL, BRT, ETC.
11:54:49 WITHOUT THAT MONEY, WE ARE LOST.
11:54:50 WE ARE LOST.
11:54:52 WITH THAT MONEY WE GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
11:54:56 I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE I SUPPORTED THE SALES TAX IN 2018
11:54:59 AND SUPPORT IF NEED BE TO REAUTHORIZE IT TODAY.
11:54:59 WHY?
11:55:02 BECAUSE IT GETS US TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
11:55:04 NOT ABOUT AFFLUENCE.
11:55:06 LET'S DO SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED.
11:55:10 THIS A BASIC NECESSITY THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.
11:55:14 WE ARE RUNNING 20, 30 YEARS BEHIND WHEN IT COMES TO
11:55:15 MASS TRANSIT.
11:55:17 HELPS US GET TO WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:55:19 I CONTINUE TO SAY THAT.
11:55:20 THE COUNTY COMMISSION WILL BE LOOKING AGAIN AT THIS
11:55:23 ISSUE IN APRIL AND ENCOURAGE ALL MY FELLOW
11:55:26 COUNCILMEMBERS TO GO AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:55:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
11:55:30 THANK YOU.
11:55:37 NOW BEFORE WE MOVE TO 63 AND 64, 61 AND 62 SHOULD BE
11:55:39 ABLE TO KNOCK OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.
11:55:41 WHO IS HERE FOR 60.
11:55:45 FOR OUR CLERKS OKAY BY 12:35 FOR LUNCH SNAP OKAY FOR
11:55:49 YOU GUY AS SOON AS HOW ABOUT 12:36?
11:55:52 THANK YOU.
11:55:56 GOOD MORNING, JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:55:58 WITH REGARD TO ITEM 60 ON THE AGENDA.
11:56:02 THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS TO CONDUCT AN IRS
11:56:02 REQUIRED --
11:56:05 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, NEED TO REOPEN PUBLIC
11:56:05 HEARINGS.
11:56:06 HAVE A VOTE.
11:56:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
11:56:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:56:19 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION.
11:56:21 >> THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IRS REQUIRED
11:56:24 PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY TO CONTINUE IMPROVING THE
11:56:28 ISSUANCE OF REVENUE AND REFUNDING BONDS.
11:56:31 THESE ARE CALLED THE SERIES 2020 BONDS.
11:56:37 AND THEY ARE IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 147 MILLION.
11:56:39 PROJECTS TO BE FINANCED WITH FUNDS OF THE UNIVERSITY
11:56:44 AND THE PROCEEDS OF THE SERIES 2020 BONDS INCLUDE
11:56:47 THROUGH REIMBURSEMENT, THE ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION,
11:56:50 EQUIPPING AND INSTALLATION OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES
11:56:53 WHICH INCLUDE A FINE ARTS BUILDING, A TECHNOLOGY
11:56:56 BUILDING, AND EXPANSION OF A FITNESS CENTER AND A
11:56:59 PARKING FACILITY AND THE REFINANCING OF CERTAIN
11:57:00 OUTSTANDING DEBT.
11:57:06 IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SERIES 2020 BONDS AND
11:57:13 THE INTEREST THEREIN WILL NOT HAVE A DEBTEDNESS OF THE
11:57:14 CITY AND OTHER AGENCY.
11:57:21 THESE SERIES 2020 BONDS ARE BY THE UNIVERSITY.
11:57:26 TODAY IS MERELY A PUBLIC HEARING AND THURSDAY MARCH 16,
11:57:30 A RESOLUTION BY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA APPROVING THE BOND
11:57:31 DOCUMENTS.
11:57:33 I'M HERE AND REPRESENTATIVES OF UT TO ANSWER ANY
11:57:34 QUESTIONS.
11:57:35 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS.
11:57:37 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
11:57:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I APPRECIATE US PULLING IN
11:57:41 AND REVISITING IT TODAY.
11:57:44 JUST IN REGARD TO -- IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND WE LOVE
11:57:47 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, I BELIEVE THERE ARE TENANTS
11:57:51 FOR $1 A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE LAST WHO
11:57:53 KNOWS, 70 YEARS.
11:57:54 BUT WE DO.
11:57:57 WE LOVE THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
11:58:00 DR. VAUGHN AND HIS STAFF AND TEAM AND SUPPORTERS ARE
11:58:04 DOING A GREAT JOB THERE, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE
11:58:10 THIS WASN'T CREATED AN INDEBTEDNESS OR FINANCIAL RISK
11:58:12 OR LIABILITY TO THE CITY ITSELF.
11:58:13 >> BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY.
11:58:16 YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND WE APPRECIATE IT, THANK
11:58:16 YOU.
11:58:17 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE.
11:58:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY
11:58:21 WATCHING AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.
11:58:23 THIS IS JUST A PASS THROUGH.
11:58:24 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:58:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CITY OF TAMPA IS JUST COLLECTING
11:58:29 ITS MONEY AND PASSING IT BACK THROUGH?
11:58:29 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:58:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:35 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, ANYTHING?
11:58:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:58:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 60
11:58:44 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:58:46 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:58:48 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:58:49 ANY OPPOSED.
11:58:50 EYE THEM IN 61.
11:58:55 >> JUSTIN VASKE FOR ITEM 61.
11:58:57 THE HOME RULE ORDINANCE.
11:59:00 THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE
11:59:04 EXERCISE OF THE HOME WORLD POWERS RELATED TO THE
11:59:08 INFLUENCE OF THE SERIES 2020 BONDS FROM THE UNIVERSITY
11:59:11 OF TAMPA AS A INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION.
11:59:15 CHAPTER 159 FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDE AUTHORITIES FOR
11:59:17 FINANCING A PORTION OF THE UNIVERSITY'S PROJECTS.
11:59:20 THIS HOME RULE ORDINANCE FOR FINANCING ADDITIONAL TYPES
11:59:24 OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES FOR THE UNIVERSITY.
11:59:27 ONCE AGAIN IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SERIES 2020
11:59:30 BONDS ISSUED FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA PROJECT AND
11:59:36 THE INTEREST THEREIN SHALL NOT CONSTITUTE INDEBTEDNESS
11:59:40 FOR ANY SUBDIVISION OR AGENCY.
11:59:46 THE SERIES 2020 BONDS ARE SAYABLE.
11:59:48 >> ANY QUESTIONS.
11:59:50 >> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
11:59:52 BEFORE ANY COMMENT ON 61.
11:59:54 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:59:55 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
11:59:56 MANISCALCO.
11:59:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:00:01 ANY OPPOSED.
12:00:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:00:06 PROVIDING AUTHORITY FOR THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS OF
12:00:09 ASSISTANCE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA INCORPORATED AS
12:00:12 AN INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION PROVIDING BINDING,
12:00:14 DEFINITIONS AND GENERAL POWERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL,
12:00:17 PROVIDING CRITERIA AND REQUIREMENTS FOR ASSISTANCE TO
12:00:21 BE RENDERED TO SUCH INSTITUTION AND PROVIDING FOR TERMS
12:00:24 OF SUCH ASSISTANCE, CREDIT OR ANY REVENUES OR PROPERTY
12:00:29 OF THE CITY SHALL BE PLEDGED PROVIDED FOR THE ISSUER OF
12:00:33 REVENUE BONDS AND FROM PAYMENT AND SUCH BOND FOR THE
12:00:35 ISSUANCE OF REFUNDING BONDS PROVIDING THAT THE
12:00:38 PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE IN ADDITION TO
12:00:41 OTHER AUTHORIZING MEANS OF THE MANNER OF CONSTRUCTION
12:00:46 AND REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES WITH PROVIDING FOR
12:00:48 SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:00:50 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:00:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:00:53 IN FAVOR.
12:00:57 >>CLERK: MR. CHAIR, SECOND READING AN ADOPTION ON
12:01:01 MARCH 19, 2020 AT 9:30.
12:01:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:01:10 62.
12:01:12 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD MORNING, CATE WELLS WITH THE CITY
12:01:13 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
12:01:17 ITEM 62 IS THE SECOND OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON A
12:01:21 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY THE FLORIDA LOCAL GOVERNMENT
12:01:21 DEVELOPMENT ACT.
12:01:23 THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WAS FEBRUARY 20.
12:01:30 I KNOW THAT TYLER HUDSON IS PRESENT IF HE WANTS TO MAKE
12:01:32 A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COVERS AND
12:01:34 A RESOLUTION FOR YOUR APPROVAL IF THE CLERK'S OFFICE
12:01:36 DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE IT.
12:01:37 THANK YOU.
12:01:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:01:39 MR. HUDSON.
12:01:45 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, TYLER HUDSON.
12:01:48 THE HARRISON BRICK STREET RECONNECTION.
12:01:53 WE WILL ASK THAT YOU PASS IT AGAIN.
12:01:55 I WILL BE HEALTH TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
12:01:56 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:01:58 PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 62.
12:02:00 MOTION AND CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:02:02 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:02:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:02:04 ANY OPPOSED?
12:02:06 WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
12:02:07 >> SO MOVED.
12:02:12 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND
12:02:14 BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:02:16 >> 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
12:02:19 >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:02:19 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:02:20 ANY OPPOSED?
12:02:27 MOVE TO 63 -- MY ASPIRATION IS TO FINISH THESE TWO
12:02:34 NAIVELY 12:35 IF IT COULD BE DONE.
12:02:39 >>CATE WELLS: ITEM 64 IS THE ITEM WHERE THE CITY HAS
12:02:42 OBTAINED A SPANISH INTERPRETER.
12:02:43 IF WE CAN TAKE THAT ONE FIRST.
12:02:46 AND HANDING OUT THE PROCEDURES FOR BOTH OF TODAY'S
12:02:47 HEARINGS.
12:02:55 >>LUIS VIERA: BEGINNING WITH 64.
12:02:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE AN ATTEMPT TO RECESS AFTER
12:02:59 THESE?
12:03:04 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE BEGIN --
12:03:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF HERE.
12:03:07 >>LUIS VIERA: DO 64.
12:03:09 POTENTIALLY 63.
12:03:11 RECESS AROUND 12:30 OR SO.
12:03:13 I KNOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA YOU HAVE TO LEAVE SIR.
12:03:17 WE WANT TO GET THROUGH THIS INTERPRETER ONE AT THE VERY
12:03:18 LEAST.
12:03:20 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCILMAN WITH REGARDS TO
12:03:24 COMING BACK WHEN?
12:03:30 IS 1:45 OKAY FOR EVERYBODY?
12:03:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION
12:03:34 WHICH 1:30.
12:03:36 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE TO COME BACK AT 1:3.
12:03:40 WE HAVE TO LEAVE HERE AT 12:30 TO GET AN HOUR.
12:03:40 OKAY.
12:03:42 GO AHEAD.
12:03:44 >>CATE WELLS: I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN
12:03:46 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PRESENT THAT WEREN'T SWORN IN
12:03:47 EARLIER.
12:03:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
12:03:52 IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND AND PREPARE
12:04:05 TO BE SWORN IN.
12:04:09 >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT YOU WILL TRANSLATE THE
12:04:15 TESTIMONY GOING IN A PROPER MANNER.
12:04:15 >> YES.
12:04:18 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:04:26 ITEM 64 WITH VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR THE PROPERTY
12:04:32 10504 NORTH 21ST STREET.
12:04:37 IT WAS FOR A VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND THE PETITIONER
12:04:40 IS SEEKING A REVIEW HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
12:04:44 IN ACCORDANCE TO SUBSECTIONS J2.
12:04:48 A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW.
12:04:51 THIS COUNCIL GETS TO SIT IN THE SHOES OF THE VARIANCE
12:04:55 REVIEW BOARD AND MAKE A DECISION AS IF YOU ARE MAKING
12:04:57 IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
12:05:00 YOU ARE NOT BOUND BY THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE
12:05:02 REVIEW BOARD.
12:05:05 YOU GET TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE
12:05:07 SUBMITTED IN TODAY'S HEARING.
12:05:13 THERE WAS ONE REQUEST FOR VARIANCE IN THIS MATTER FOR A
12:05:18 SIDE YARD VARIANCE FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FOOT.
12:05:22 VARIANCE BOARD VOTED BY 7-0 TO DENY IT SAYING THE
12:05:26 PETITIONER DID NOT REACH THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN
12:05:28 27-80.
12:05:39 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO REBECCA MEADE-CURRY
12:05:41 BEFORE AND AFTER THE REQUEST AS A GUIDE.
12:05:46 THANK YOU.
12:05:52 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY, PLANNING.
12:05:55 I AM THE VARIANCE REVIEW ADMINISTRATOR.
12:06:02 BASICALLY -- WE HAVE A BRIEF SUMMARY AGAIN OF THE CASE
12:06:06 THAT WAS PRESENTED.
12:06:10 AND THE SECTION UNDER REVIEW WITH 27156 AND THE
12:06:14 APPLICANT WAS SEEKING A REDUCTION OF THE SIDE YARD
12:06:14 SETBACK.
12:06:20 THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN RED.
12:06:25 THE STREET IS HERE.
12:06:29 ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE RS-60.
12:06:34 THE SITE PLAN HERE IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE ALONG
12:06:35 23RD.
12:06:39 SIDE YARD -- THE AREA IN QUESTION IS HERE WHERE THEY
12:06:43 ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SET BACK TO SEVEN
12:06:46 FEET FOR THE SCREEN ENCLOSURE THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED
12:06:48 HERE.
12:06:50 RIGHT-OF-WAY TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES FOUND
12:06:54 IT CONSISTENT AND ZONING FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AND
12:06:57 ASKED FOR THE CONDITION THAT THEY OBTAIN PERMITS ONCE
12:06:58 AND IF APPROVED.
12:07:03 I HAVE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM IF
12:07:06 THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
12:07:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PLEASE, THE -- THIS IS THE FRONT OF
12:07:19 THE PROPERTY.
12:07:23 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
12:07:28 LOOKING NORTH.
12:07:35 AND THE AREA IN QUESTION IS THIS ADDITION HERE.
12:07:38 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
12:07:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, HOW IS -- FORGET ME FOR HAVING
12:07:43 STEPPED UP QUICKLY.
12:07:46 IS THIS STRUCTURE GOING TO BE TORN DOWN THAT IS THERE
12:07:49 NOW, THE OVERHANG AND THE POLES.
12:07:52 OR SCREENS BEING PUT ON THAT?
12:07:54 >> THEY ARE ACTUALLY TOOK OFF THE SCREEN THAT WAS THERE
12:07:57 SO THEY ASKED FOR THE SCREEN AREA TO BE REPLACED.
12:08:01 THEY REVISED CODE ENFORCEMENT TO REMOVE THE SCREEN AND
12:08:03 WANT TO KEEP THE STRUCTURE THAT IS HERE.
12:08:06 AND REPLACE THE SCREEN THAT WAS REMOVED.
12:08:07 >> YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION.
12:08:11 IS THAT SPECIFIC PART, THE ROOF AND THE POLES HOLDING
12:08:14 THE ROOF UP IS GOING TO STAY?
12:08:16 WAS THAT PERMITTED?
12:08:18 >> NO, IT WAS NOT.
12:08:20 >> IF I CAN CLARIFY.
12:08:24 MR. CITRO -- IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY.
12:08:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CLARIFICATION WILL COME FROM THE
12:08:28 SETBACK ITSELF, CORRECT?
12:08:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE STRUCTURE IS THE
12:08:32 SUBJECT OF THE CASE.
12:08:32 >> AGREED.
12:08:35 THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS JUST SHOWN IN THE PICTURE WAS
12:08:37 BUILT WITHOUT BENEFIT OF PERMITS.
12:08:41 IT ENCROACHING INTO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
12:08:45 THE VARIANCE IS TO GO FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FOOT FOR
12:08:48 THE STRUCTURE TO REMAIN.
12:08:51 >> IT COUNCIL FOUND THEY MET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAN
12:08:54 FOR THE STRUCTURE TO REMAIN IN PLACE.
12:08:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ASK MY NEXT QUESTION.
12:09:00 WAS THE STRUCTURE NOT PERMITTED.
12:09:03 DOES IT MEET CODE NOW?
12:09:05 >> WHEN ASK YOU DOES IT MEET THE CODE, ARE YOU ASKING
12:09:08 ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE BUILDING CODE?
12:09:09 >> BOTH.
12:09:10 BECAUSE -- MY REASONING HERE.
12:09:17 AGAIN, IF THERE WAS NOT A STRUCTURE BEING BUILT, WOULD
12:09:20 VARIANCE REVIEW OR CODE ALLOW IT TO BE BUILT IN THIS
12:09:23 MANNER?
12:09:25 >> THE LOCATION WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY THE LAND
12:09:30 DEVELOPMENT CODE BECAUSE A SEVEN-YARD SIDE YARD
12:09:30 SETBACK.
12:09:33 THAT IS THE REQUEST FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FEET.
12:09:35 >> STRUCTURALLY.
12:09:37 >> FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE IF THE
12:09:39 VARIANCES ARE APPROVED, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD
12:09:47 HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT DURING PERMITTING.
12:09:50 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:09:52 GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:09:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY QUESTION WITH REFERENCE TO THE
12:09:55 STRUCTURE.
12:09:58 WAS THE STRUCTURE THERE WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY
12:09:59 AND ACQUIRED --
12:10:02 >> I SUBMIT THOSE ARE PROPER QUESTIONS FOR THE
12:10:03 APPLICANT.
12:10:05 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:10:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:10:09 I WAS JUST BROUGHT -- HOW WAS THIS BROUGHT TO THE
12:10:10 ATTENTION OF THE CITY.
12:10:14 A NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINT OR FOCUS OF THE CITY TO
12:10:19 PROACTIVELY FIND THESE ITEMS TO BE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
12:10:23 >> A CODE VINES THROUGH A COMPLIANCE BASED THROUGH A
12:10:24 CODE VIOLATION THROUGH A COMPLAINT.
12:10:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THROUGH COMPLAINTS.
12:10:31 AND I AM NOT -- I AM PRETTY LIBERAL, BUT I AM ALSO VERY
12:10:33 CONSERVATIVE AT THE SAME TIME.
12:10:36 THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THESE ALL OVER.
12:10:38 AND I MEAN TENS OF THOUSANDS.
12:10:42 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 100 OF THESE CASES EVERY DAY FOR
12:10:44 THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
12:10:46 AND YOU WILL NEVER FINISH.
12:10:48 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL OVER WEST TAMPA.
12:10:50 THEY ARE ALL OVER EAST TAMPA.
12:10:53 THEY ARE ALL OVER SOME AREAS LIKE THIS AREA.
12:10:54 WHAT I AM MOST CONCERNED.
12:10:58 NOT THAT I AM AGAINST OR FOR THESE ITEMS IS A HOME
12:11:01 BEING SPLIT WITHOUT THE GROUND BEING THE PROPER ZONING.
12:11:04 AND THERE IS AT LEAST 500 OF THOSE IN WEST TAMPA.
12:11:05 AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
12:11:06 NUMBER ONE.
12:11:12 NUMBER TWO, IS WHOEVER FILED THE COMPLIANT, HAVE THEY
12:11:16 VISIBLY SHOWN THEMSELVES OR ONE ANONYMOUS BY PHONE.
12:11:18 >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
12:11:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARDON ME?
12:11:23 >> I AM NOT AWARE THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN THEMSELVES.
12:11:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCILMAN
12:11:26 MIRANDA.
12:11:28 IF I CAN JUST ASK THAT YOU DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
12:11:32 CRITERIA, THE CODE AND SEE WHETHER THE FACT THAT YOU
12:11:35 FIND OUT -- AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE
12:11:38 PETITIONER YET TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY AND DON'T
12:11:41 MAKE ANY JUDGMENT UNTIL YOU HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE AND
12:11:41 APPLY --
12:11:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT THE SAME
12:11:48 QUESTION YOU ARE, MR. COUNSEL, IF YOU LET ME HANDLE IT,
12:11:51 LET ME HANDLE IT MY WAY.
12:11:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
12:11:55 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?
12:11:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT.
12:11:59 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:12:03 THANK YOU.
12:12:05 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:12:16 I'M THE SON-IN-LAW FOR THE OLIVEROS.
12:12:20 WE DID BRING THE DVDS FROM THE ORIGINAL HEARINGS THAT
12:12:21 WE WERE REQUESTED TO BRING.
12:12:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN PUT IN THE RECORD NOW,
12:12:24 PLEASE.
12:12:26 >> CERTAINLY.
12:12:37 THERE ARE TWO VIDEOS.
12:12:41 THE FIRST VIDEO WOULD SHOW THAT THE HEARING WAS
12:12:48 CONTINUED FOR LACK OF A INTERPRETER FOR MRS. OLIVEROS.
12:12:51 THE SECOND VIDEO IS A LITTLE MORE TELLING.
12:13:05 AND WHAT I WILL LIKE DO MY SPEECH OF WHAT WE ARE
12:13:06 LOOKING TO IN THE VARIANCE.
12:13:11 DURING THE INITIAL VARIANCE HEARING, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW
12:13:14 GOT CONFUSED AND WAS ARGUING REALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT
12:13:18 ISSUES BEFORE THE ORIGINAL HEARING BOARD.
12:13:24 AND THAT IS WHAT ULTIMATELY LED TO THE DENIAL SO THE
12:13:27 HARDSHIP ISSUES WERE NEVER ADDRESSED AND THAT'S WHAT WE
12:13:29 WOULD LIKE TO DO TODAY.
12:13:32 ALTHOUGH SHE WAS GIVEN SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS
12:13:37 THE HARDSHIP ISSUE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
12:13:40 TRANSPARENT AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
12:13:43 THERE ARE FIVE CATEGORIES.
12:13:45 AND I AM NOT SURE IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THE CATEGORIES
12:13:46 OR NOT.
12:13:49 AND I CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM.
12:14:00 BUT DURING THE PRESENTATION OF THE SELF.
12:14:03 THERE WAS ONE OPPOSING PERSON HAD, AND IT WAS HER
12:14:05 DIRECT NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH.
12:14:12 AND ONCE YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS
12:14:16 SOME -- WHAT IS THE WORD I AM LOOKING FOR DISLIKE
12:14:19 BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORS IF YOU WILL.
12:14:23 AND SO THERE WAS SOME ALLEGATIONS MADE BY THE NEIGHBOR
12:14:27 THAT WERE PRETTY MUCH UNJUST AND UNTRUE.
12:14:33 AND SO WE ARE HERE TO CLARIFY THAT ALSO.
12:14:36 MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS A GOOD PERSON.
12:14:37 SHE BELIEVES IN PEOPLE.
12:14:42 AND REALLY ALL SHE IS TRYING TO DO IS, YOU KNOW,
12:14:45 CONTINUE WITH A PROJECT IN THE HOUSE THAT HAD STARTED
12:14:49 WAY BACK IN THE DAY.
12:14:53 SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO INTO THE ACTUAL
12:14:56 CRITERIA ITSELF BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT -- THERE WERE
12:14:57 NOT DISCUSSED.
12:15:01 DO YOU WANT ME TO READ EACH OF THE CRITERIA OR READ THE
12:15:03 RESPONSES TO THE CRITERIA.
12:15:06 >>LUIS VIERA: WE UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T GUIDE YOU.
12:15:08 YOU WILL DO AS YOU PREFER.
12:15:12 >> IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, THE FIRST
12:15:15 CRITERIA SAYS THAT THE ALLEGED HARDSHIPS OR PRACTICAL
12:15:19 DIFFICULTIES ARE UNIQUE AND SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO
12:15:22 THE PROPERTY OR WITH RESPECT TO A STRUCTURE OR BUILDING
12:15:27 THEREON AND ARE NOT THOSE SUFFERED IN COMMON WITH OTHER
12:15:31 PROPERTIES, STRUCTURES OR BUILDING, SIMILARLY LOCATED.
12:15:31 OKAY.
12:15:36 SO THE RESPONSES TO THIS IS EACH PROPERTY AS EVERYBODY
12:15:38 KNOWS IS UNIQUE.
12:15:43 AND SO, THEREFORE, THEY ARE ALL SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM
12:15:46 ANY OTHER PROPERTY.
12:15:48 THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROPERTY MAKES THIS VARIANCE
12:15:54 SINGULAR IN RELATION TO THE REQUESTS OF THE VARIANCE.
12:15:54 OKAY.
12:15:59 THIS PROPERTY WAS ENCLOSED -- I AM SORRY, THE PROPERTY
12:16:08 ENCLOSED THE CARPORT WHICH IF I CAN PUT THE PICTURES --
12:16:11 CAN I BORROW THE PICTURE WHERE IT SHOWS THE SIDE?
12:16:21 I APOLOGIZE BUT THE HOME ORIGINALLY HAD OVER WHERE THAT
12:16:24 -- IN FRONT OF THIS HONDA WHERE THAT LITTLE AIR
12:16:27 CONDITIONER SITS, THAT USED TO BE A CARPORT.
12:16:34 THAT WAS CLOSED IN BACK IT LOOKS LIKE '92 OR EARLIER.
12:16:37 THAT WAS ALL PERMITTED AND DONE THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE
12:16:37 BEEN DONE.
12:16:40 AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS THE ADDITIONAL CON SECRETE
12:16:49 THAT WAS POURED TO THE SIDE AND SO ALL THE PROPER
12:16:50 PERMITS AT THE TIME.
12:16:52 THE CARPORT WAS ENCLOSED.
12:16:54 THE CONCRETE WAS ALREADY THERE.
12:16:57 ALL THE BASELINE FOR IT WAS ALREADY THERE AT THE TIME.
12:17:03 OKAY.
12:17:07 FOR ALL THE YEARS THE UNUSED CONCRETE AND REALLY HAD NO
12:17:09 -- NO PURPOSE OR ANYTHING.
12:17:16 SO IN TRYING TO GET THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY, ABOUT
12:17:19 FOUR YEARS AGO, THE HOMEOWNERS HAD A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY
12:17:28 AND THEY DECIDED TO PUT IN THE ROOF AND THE POSTS, AND
12:17:36 THE ACTUAL PATIO HAD SCREENS ON IT AND SCREEN DOORS ON
12:17:39 THE FRONT AND SCREEN DOORS IN THE BACK.
12:17:43 AND NEVER ANY ISSUE OF ANY KIND OF ENCROACHMENT OR ANY
12:17:46 OTHER PROPERTY ESPECIALLY TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH
12:17:49 THAT WAS OF QUESTION AND WHERE THE VARIANCE WAS BEING
12:17:50 REQUESTED TO.
12:17:53 SO THERE WAS ALWAYS EASY ACCESS TO THE FRONT, BACK
12:17:56 PARTS OF THE YARD AND NEVER ANY ISSUE THERE.
12:18:03 THE HOMEOWNER, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, HAD THE PORCH BUILT.
12:18:05 IT MADE SENSE TO THEM.
12:18:09 PART OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE ASKED OF THEM WAS,
12:18:12 COULDN'T YOU HAVE BUILT THIS IN THE BACK YARD.
12:18:14 DID YOU HAVE TO DO IT ON THE SIDE.
12:18:20 AND PART OF THE ANSWER IS, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE STATE OF
12:18:23 FACTS AND THE CONCRETE WAS ALREADY THERE, IT JUST MADE
12:18:25 MORE SENSE TO DO IT HERE, OKAY.
12:18:33 AND FINANCIALLY, IT WAS MORE EFFECTIVE TO DO IT HERE.
12:18:42 THE HOMEOWNER OR MY MOTHER-IN-LAW I SHOULD SAY PROBABLY
12:18:45 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED OR SO WAS THAT,
12:18:48 YOU KNOW, HOW THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
12:18:50 THE SUN WILL SET IN HER BACK YARD.
12:18:56 SO THAT WOULD INCREASE THE HEAT AND ALL THIS FOR A
12:18:59 PORCH TO BE BUILT IN THE BACK YARD.
12:19:03 SO WHERE IT SITS NOW, IT FACED SOUTH.
12:19:06 SO REALLY THE PORCH WILL BE USABLE EITHER MORNING,
12:19:10 AFTERNOON OR AFTERNOON AND EVENING ANY TIME WITHOUT
12:19:18 HAVING TO EXPERIENCE TO EXPERIENCE THAT ADDITIONAL
12:19:21 HEAT.
12:19:30 SO -- GIVE ME ONE SECOND I APOLOGIZE.
12:19:37 MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IN THE HEARING SAID THE PURPOSES IS TO
12:19:42 HAVE BARBECUES AND I WOULD ADD ANY TYPE OF GATHERING
12:19:47 AND ANYTHING CAN BE DONE IN AN ENCLOSED AREA.
12:19:49 SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE
12:19:50 THAT DONE THERE.
12:19:57 THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT ADDING THE ROOF WOULDN'T BE
12:20:00 ABLE TO BUILD A BRAND-NEW ONE IN THE BACK.
12:20:07 THAT IS KIND OF A HARDSHIP TO THEM AT THIS POINT ALSO.
12:20:12 SO THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP.
12:20:20 THERE EXISTS BECAUSE WILL EXIST TO BRING IT DOWN SHOULD
12:20:25 THE BOARD OR COUNSEL DECIDE TO DENY THEIR REQUEST.
12:20:29 THE HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT
12:20:32 FROM THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
12:20:34 THIS IS THE SECOND QUESTION OF THE -- OR THE SECOND
12:20:37 VARIANCE ISSUE THAT THE HARDSHIP FOR PRACTICAL
12:20:41 DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT FROM THE APPLICANT AND
12:20:45 SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY SHOULD
12:20:47 NOT JUSTIFY A VARIANCE.
12:20:50 THE ANSWER TO THIS IS KIND OF SIMPLE, WHEN THEY DECIDED
12:20:52 TO DO THE WORK.
12:20:56 THEY HAD A HANDYMAN DO THE CONSTRUCTION AND THAT THE
12:21:00 POINT IT WAS RELIED -- IN MY UNDERSTANDING NO VARIANCE
12:21:03 AND NOTHING THAT WAS NEEDED BECAUSE IT WAS AN OPEN
12:21:07 PORCH WITH JUST SCREENS AND STUFF.
12:21:13 TO THEY RELIED ON THE HANDYMAN'S KNOWLEDGE OR EXPERTISE
12:21:20 AND WENT AHEAD HAND IT DONE.
12:21:23 NOT THAT OH, WE KNOW WE NEED THIS AND NOT GOING TO HAVE
12:21:25 IT PRESENTED PROPERLY.
12:21:29 THE THIRD THING IS THE VARIANCE IF GRANTED WILL NOT
12:21:33 SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR INJURY THE HEALTH, SAFETY
12:21:35 AND WELFARE OF OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WILL BE AFFECTED
12:21:39 BY ALLOWANCE OF A VARIANCE.
12:21:43 AGAIN, THEY THINK MEET THE HARDSHIPS ON THIS ALSO.
12:21:46 THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT INTERFERE, INJURY THE NEIGHBORS,
12:21:49 SPECIFICALLY THE HOUSE ON THE SIDE BECAUSE THERE IS A
12:21:50 FENCE.
12:21:54 THERE IS A -- THE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED A FOOT.
12:21:59 BUT REALLY ABOUT TWO FEET OR MAYBE ONE SPOT THAT MAY BE
12:22:02 A LITTLE BIT LESS FROM THE KIND OF CONSTRUCTION.
12:22:06 SO -- SO THE REQUEST WAS FOR A FOOT.
12:22:08 THERE IS ADEQUATE SPACE.
12:22:11 FOR THE CHASE, THERE IS A CHAIN-LINK FENCE AND FROM
12:22:15 THERE A SEVEN-FOOT POSITIONED VARIANCE TO THE NEXT
12:22:17 PROPERTY.
12:22:20 AND WOULDN'T CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL HARDSHIP ON ANY OF
12:22:26 THE NEIGHBORS.
12:22:31 IF YOU LISTEN TO THE VIDEO, THE NEIGHBOR SAID THAT
12:22:34 WATER RUNS OFF THE ROOF AND RUNS TOWARD THEIR PROPERTY.
12:22:41 THE WATER WOULD HAVE REALLY HAVE TO RUN PAST MY
12:22:44 MOTHER-IN-LAW'S PROPERTY TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTY.
12:22:46 THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN UP THERE FOR EASILY FOUR YEARS
12:22:50 AND NO COMPLAINTS.
12:22:55 NO NOTHING STATED THERE WOULD BE ANY ISSUE THERE IS AND
12:22:56 WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS.
12:22:58 NO COMPLAINTS OR REPORTS FILED.
12:23:04 BUT THE NEIGHBOR ALSO ALLUDED TO EROSION TO THEIR
12:23:07 FOUNDATION THAT WILL OCCUR IF THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED.
12:23:10 AGAIN THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN THERE FOR FOUR YEARS
12:23:13 ALREADY, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO DAMAGE TO THEIR
12:23:15 FOUNDATION.
12:23:19 THEY ARE LOOKING AT LEAST TEN FEET BEFORE IT WOULD EVEN
12:23:20 GET TO THEIR FOUNDATION.
12:23:25 SO, AGAIN, I AM NOT SEEING A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
12:23:30 AND AGAIN, NO REPORTS, YOU KNOW OR COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN
12:23:32 FILED TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.
12:23:37 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALLUDED ALSO TO NOISE ISSUE ON ALL
12:23:42 HOURS OF THE EVENING, AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE
12:23:47 -- SO MY STEPPARENTS IN THEIR 70S AND 80S, THEY DON'T
12:23:50 HAVE PARTIES LIKE THAT.
12:23:55 SO WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THAT
12:23:56 TOPIC EITHER.
12:23:59 THE NEIGHBOR ALSO ALLEGED THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PARKING
12:24:01 IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
12:24:04 AND BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE CONCRETE WAS ORIGINALLY
12:24:08 LAID, THE -- THE DRIVEWAY WAS WIDENED.
12:24:12 SO YOU CAN SEE WE CAN FIT TWO CARS COMFORTABLY NEXT TO
12:24:14 EACH OTHER AND THERE IS STILL ROOM IN THE BACK TO PARK
12:24:18 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES SO THERE WOULD BE NO REASON TO PARK
12:24:20 IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME.
12:24:25 AND THAT WAS, AGAIN -- THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY
12:24:28 COMPLAINTS FILED OR ANYTHING GIVEN TO US IN THAT FACT.
12:24:33 THE NUMBER FOUR, THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH AND
12:24:38 SERVES GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CHAPTER AND
12:24:41 THE ADOPTED TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:24:44 I DON'T HAVE ANY AN ANSWER ON THAT ONE.
12:24:45 IT IS JUST A RESIDENTIAL HOME.
12:24:49 IT IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE PLAN.
12:24:53 THE FIRST ONE SAYS, ALLOWING A VARIANCE WILL RESULT IN
12:24:57 SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING DONE, CONSIDERING BOTH PUBLIC
12:25:01 BENEFITS INTENDED TO BE SECURED BY THIS CHAPTER AND THE
12:25:03 INDIVIDUAL HARDSHIPS AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT
12:25:06 WILL BE SUFFERED DUE TO A FAILURE OF THE BOARD TO GRANT
12:25:07 A VARIANCE.
12:25:10 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, RUNNING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT
12:25:11 HARDSHIPS.
12:25:17 IT REALLY WOULD JUST NOT EFFECT ANY OTHER PROPERTY AND
12:25:23 DENYING IT WOULD BE MORE OF A COST ISSUE FOR THE
12:25:24 HOMEOWNER.
12:25:32 MY INLAWS THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES.
12:25:35 SO I WILL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.
12:25:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:25:40 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:25:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN UNIQUE
12:25:42 SITUATION.
12:25:45 AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID SO MANY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:25:48 AND THE CITY AND BEYOND.
12:25:50 THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.
12:25:53 AND I THINK THAT -- A LOT OF YOUR TIME HAS BEEN WASTED
12:25:57 BECAUSE THIS IS -- YOU ARE NOT -- IT IS NOT HURTING ANY
12:25:57 NEIGHBORS.
12:25:59 YOU MENTION NO LOUD MUSIC --
12:26:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY STATEMENTS
12:26:04 REGARDING --
12:26:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:26:11 >> FROM WHAT YOU SAID, NO PARTIES OR
12:26:12 MUSIC.
12:26:15 THEY ARE ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS.
12:26:19 YOU KNOW, THIS IS A -- A CARPORT.
12:26:23 YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT WITH HOW THE SUN RISES AND
12:26:23 SETS.
12:26:25 WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU PUT IT.
12:26:27 WHERE WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE TO PUT IT --
12:26:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, I WILL INTERRUPT ONE MORE
12:26:32 TIME.
12:26:34 BEFORE YOU WEIGH YOUR EVIDENCE --
12:26:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY HERE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
12:26:37 ITEM.
12:26:39 OH, WE DO?
12:26:43 BEFORE WE SPEAK, LET'S HEAR THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS.
12:26:47 AND LET ME -- BEFORE THESE TWO LADIES COME UP, ITEM 63,
12:26:52 WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT UNTIL AFTER --
12:26:54 UNTIL AFTER 1:30.
12:26:56 I AM VERY SORRY.
12:26:58 OUR AGENDA A VERY PACKED.
12:27:03 MY SINCERE APOLOGY.
12:27:06 >>LUIS VIERA: I TELL YOU WHAT, I WILL SPEAK TO YOU
12:27:08 OUTSIDE.
12:27:15 >> MY NAME IS KATHERINE JONES, AND I LIVE IN THE HOUSE
12:27:16 SOUTH.
12:27:18 AS FAR AS THEM BUILDING ON, THEY BUILT THAT -- THEY
12:27:22 CLOSED IN THEIR CARPORT AREA WHERE THAT WINDOW WAS AND
12:27:24 MADE AN APARTMENT.
12:27:27 AND THEY ARE RENTING THAT OUT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ALL
12:27:28 THE TIME.
12:27:32 THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE -- WHEN THEY ARE RENTING IS
12:27:33 THE PROBLEM.
12:27:36 THEY MAKE NOISE ALL NIGHT LONG, NOT JUST EVENING
12:27:38 PARTIES.
12:27:40 THEY ARE DOING IT ALL NIGHT LONG.
12:27:43 SOMEBODY COME AND KNOCK ON THAT DOOR -- SIDE DOOR.
12:27:46 MY BEDROOM IS RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT.
12:27:48 AND NATURALLY THIS WAKES ME UP.
12:27:51 AND THAT THEIR ROOF THAT THEY PUT ON, THEY PUT IT A
12:27:56 FOOT AWAY FROM MY FENCE, BUT THEY WERE TYING THINGS TO
12:28:03 MY FENCE TO HOLD THE ROOF -- THEIR SIDE -- ON THEIR
12:28:11 CARPORT -- THEIR WALL -- LIKE, WOOD WALL AND SCREEN.
12:28:14 THEY WERE -- TYING IT ON MY FENCE AND CAUSING MY FENCE
12:28:15 TO SAG.
12:28:18 AND IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE BARBECUES OUT THERE ON
12:28:21 THAT PATIO, THAT IS JUST WOOD.
12:28:23 WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ABOUT FIRES?
12:28:26 MY HOUSE IS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT A SPARK OR WHATEVER THEY
12:28:30 ARE DOING, IF THEIRS CATCHES ON FIRE, MINE IS GOING TO
12:28:32 PROBABLY CATCH ON FIRE TOO.
12:28:34 DO I NEED TO STAY THERE AND WATCH IT ALL THE TIME TO
12:28:38 MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN?
12:28:42 OR HOW AM I GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT?
12:28:44 I DON'T KNOW.
12:28:47 THIS IS -- AND AS FAR AS THE SUN SETTING.
12:28:50 THE SUN DOESN'T SET ON SOUTH IN THE NORTH.
12:28:52 IT SETS ON THE EAST AND THE WEST.
12:28:55 IT COMES UP IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSES, GOES DOWN IN THE
12:28:56 FRONT OF THE HOUSES.
12:29:00 SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR HEAT FROM THE SUN GOING
12:29:03 DOWN IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
12:29:12 WHERE THE -- I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW HOW I AM
12:29:24 GOING TO -- THIS -- THE HOUSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ZONED A
12:29:28 ONE-FAMILY HOUSE, SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE PERMITTED TO
12:29:30 RENT THIS OUT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
12:29:35 IT SHOULD BE -- AS FAR AS THE PARKING, SURE, THEY
12:29:39 POURED IN CEMENT, ABOUT A FOOT FROM MY LINE, WHICH I
12:29:43 DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, BUT THEN YOU GOT ALL THESE
12:29:46 PEOPLE THAT IS RENTING THIS AND THEIR TWO CARS.
12:29:50 WELL, YOU GOT AS MANY AS FIVE AND SIX CAR THERE IS
12:29:51 OCCASIONALLY.
12:29:54 AND THE FIRST THING THEY WANT TO DO, THEY WANT TO PARK
12:30:00 IN MY YARD UP IN THE FRONT OF MY YARD.
12:30:03 I JUST CAN'T -- IT IS GETTING TO BE TOO MUCH TO HANDLE
12:30:07 WITH EVERYTHING THEY ARE TRYING TO DO TO THE HOUSE.
12:30:11 IF THEY PUT THE THING THIS BACK, AT LEAST THAT WILL
12:30:13 OPEN UP THAT SIDE WHERE THEY WOULDN'T BE BARBECUING
12:30:19 MAYBE THERE AND CAUSE A FIRE.
12:30:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU MA'AM.
12:30:22 WE APPRECIATE IT, MADAM.
12:30:26 NEXT, PLEASE.
12:30:28 >> WE NEVER SAID IT WAS THEM MAKING THE NOISE --
12:30:30 >> STATE YOUR NAME.
12:30:31 >> DORIS JONES.
12:30:33 WE NEVER SAID IT WAS THEM MAKING THE NOISE.
12:30:38 THE PEOPLE THAT THEY KEEP RENTING THE APARTMENT OUT TO.
12:30:41 THEY -- UP UNTIL THE LAST TIME THE LAST MEETING -- WE
12:30:43 WERE AT THIS ONE TOO.
12:30:45 SOMEONE HAD BEEN PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
12:30:49 PEOPLE EVERY NIGHT WILL PARK IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
12:30:51 WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
12:30:54 AND WE WATCH AND THEY WOULD GET OUT AND GO UP THERE.
12:30:59 WELL, JUST THE OTHER DAY, THERE WAS A DELIVERY FOR
12:31:00 10501.
12:31:03 WE ARE 10409.
12:31:04 AND THEY -- THEY WENT TO THAT DOOR.
12:31:08 THEY WENT TO THE RIGHT HOUSE, BUT THEY TOLD THEM, NO,
12:31:10 THAT IS NEXT DOOR.
12:31:14 THE DELIVERY GUY COMES OVER TO OUR DOOR -- WE HAVE GOT
12:31:17 OUR NUMBER 10409.
12:31:21 AND HE ASKED US -- AND WE WANTS TO KNOW IF AUSTIN LIVES
12:31:22 HERE.
12:31:24 NO, AUSTIN DON'T LIVE IN OUR HOUSE.
12:31:27 HE WANTS 10501.
12:31:29 WHERE IS THAT -- NEXT DOOR.
12:31:34 THEY HAVE A LITTLE APARTMENT RIGHT TO THEIR FRONT DOOR.
12:31:36 IT IS THE NEXT DOOR.
12:31:43 AND THERE ARE PEOPLE -- THE RENTERS -- THEY DO HAVE
12:31:47 PEOPLE COME AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT KNOCKING ON THAT
12:31:47 DOOR.
12:31:51 AND THEY COME AND THEY BLOW THE HORNS AND THEY COME AND
12:31:56 THEY -- SOMETIMES THEY GO OUT AT NIGHT AND GO DOWN TO
12:32:01 THE ROAD AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND COME RIGHT BACK UP.
12:32:04 AND WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO GET SOME SLEEP AT NIGHT, IT
12:32:07 DOESN'T HELP ANY.
12:32:08 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:32:10 ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:32:11 OKAY.
12:32:15 ANY REBUTTAL?
12:32:19 AND WE'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF MINUTES SO LET'S --
12:32:20 >> I UNDERSTAND.
12:32:23 I DID SPEAK TO MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.
12:32:26 AND YESTERDAY SHE TOLD ME THAT THE SUN SETS IN THE
12:32:26 BACK.
12:32:30 APPARENTLY IT DOES SET IN THE FRONT.
12:32:33 SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
12:32:36 THE -- THE NOISES THEY ARE HEARING.
12:32:38 THE PEOPLE THAT IS COME SOMETHING NOT COMING FROM THEIR
12:32:39 PROPERTY.
12:32:40 IT IS COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
12:32:44 IF THEY FEEL IT IS COMING FROM THERE, THERE ARE OTHER
12:32:48 RECOURSES THEY CAN USE TO THEIR AVAILABILITY TO ADDRESS
12:32:49 THOSE.
12:32:52 THAT IS NOT FOR THE PORCH.
12:32:54 ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR TO PUT A PORCH.
12:32:57 THAT WILL NOT INCREASE NOISE.
12:32:59 IT IS NOT GOING TO DECREASE NOISE.
12:33:01 IT WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THEIR PROPERTY
12:33:03 WHATSOEVER OR ANYTHING.
12:33:07 AS FAR AS THE -- YOU KNOW, I -- OKAY.
12:33:11 SO ANYWAY, I KNOW A COUPLE OF MINUTES BUT I WANTED IN
12:33:19 CONCLUDING, YOU KNOW, WE DID COVER THE ISSUES OF WHAT
12:33:23 WOULD DEMONSTRATE THE HARDSHIPS AND, YOU KNOW, THE AGE
12:33:27 OF MY INLAWS SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
12:33:30 THEY ARE 70S AND 80.
12:33:33 AND THEY ARE ON FIXED INCOME.
12:33:35 REMOVING THAT WILL COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY.
12:33:38 THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RECONSTRUCT IT IN THE BACK OR
12:33:40 ANY OTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY.
12:33:47 BECAUSE THE FUNDS WOULD JUST NOT BE AVAILABLE.
12:33:54 THE -- AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE TO
12:33:57 RECONSTRUCT IT THEY WOULD HAVE TO START CLEARING
12:34:00 GROUNDS, PUTTING SLABS AND BUILDING ON TOP, PUTTING
12:34:05 ROOFS, AN PUTTING SOME KIND OF AN EXTERIOR WALLS, AND
12:34:09 THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED TO WHERE IT JUST NEEDS
12:34:10 TO BE SCREENED IN.
12:34:14 SO REALLY ALL WE ARE ASKING IS FOR THE APPROVAL TO BE
12:34:16 ABLE TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS.
12:34:19 AND, AGAIN, WE FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, IF
12:34:22 THEY FEEL THAT STRONGLY.
12:34:26 IF YOU WATCH THE TAPE, YOU WILL HEAR -- THEY HAVE
12:34:31 ISSUES AND TAKEN CARE OF THINGS IN THEIR YARD, BUT --
12:34:34 AND MY MOTHER-IN-LAW DOESN'T AGREE WITH STUFF.
12:34:36 DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE ISSUES THEMSELVES.
12:34:40 I AM JUST TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF WHAT THE IS
12:34:42 REQUIRING FOR AN APPROVAL OF THIS TYPE.
12:34:45 AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE MET ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIANCE
12:34:50 HARDSHIPS TO APPROVE AND WOULD URGE THAT YOU APPROVE
12:34:50 IT.
12:34:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.
12:34:54 ANY QUESTION FROM COUNCIL?
12:34:56 AND IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:34:58 REALLY QUICK BECAUSE ONLY A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
12:35:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE GONE GOING TO SAY IN REFERENCE
12:35:02 TO THE TIME.
12:35:03 WE ARE ALREADY OVER ALREADY.
12:35:06 SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY OVER
12:35:08 RIGHT NOW.
12:35:12 >> THE PROBLEM IN BACK AT 1:30, WE WILL HAVE OUR 1:30
12:35:16 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING AND 63.
12:35:19 THIS IS -- CAN WE DECIDE THIS IN THE NEXT THREE
12:35:20 MINUTES?
12:35:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU FRANKLY
12:35:27 UNDER TIME PRESSURE, YOU MAY NOT GET THE COMPETENT
12:35:31 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO THE DEGREE YOU NEED.
12:35:34 IF SOMEBODY DOES CHALLENGE THAT ON THIS BASIS.
12:35:37 >>LUIS VIERA: UNDERSTOOD..
12:35:37 LET'S DO THIS.
12:35:44 CAN WE RETURN HERE AT 1:15?
12:35:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE TO GO TO THE NORTH SIDE OF
12:35:46 TOWN.
12:35:49 >>LUIS VIERA: FOUR OF US COME BACK AT 1:15.
12:35:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN BE HERE BUT NOT AT THAT HOUR.
12:35:54 >>LUIS VIERA: WHERE IS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
12:35:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE WILL BE BACK.
12:35:59 FOR THE AFTERNOON.
12:36:01 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN HE BE BACK AT 1:30?
12:36:03 >> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE HEARD ALL THE
12:36:04 EVIDENCE IN THE CASE.
12:36:07 YOU HEARD THE REBUTTAL AND THE TESTIMONY OF THE PUBLIC.
12:36:12 I WOULD ASK RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU ADDRESS THIS ITEM AND
12:36:15 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE MET THE HARDSHIP
12:36:18 CRITERIA IN CHAPTER 27.
12:36:19 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:36:20 HOW ABOUT YOU DO YOUR QUESTIONS.
12:36:22 CAN YOU DO THAT?
12:36:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN A MINUTE OR
12:36:25 SO.
12:36:27 I HAVE GOT SOME QUESTIONS.
12:36:30 WANT TO HEAR FROM THE MOTHER AND MAKE SURE SHE HAS BEEN
12:36:32 SWORN IN AND I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T THINK THAT
12:36:34 THE SON HAS BEEN ANSWERING.
12:36:37 LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO -- WHO CAME UP WITH
12:36:41 THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY.VIERA WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
12:36:44 TO DO AT 1:15 P.M. AND HAVE FOUR MEMBERS.
12:36:46 AND TRY OUR BEST LEGALLY.
12:36:50 CAN WE DO THIS WITH FOUR MEMBERS?
12:36:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS THEY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE AS
12:36:56 A MATTER OF RIGHT.
12:36:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ALWAYS RESPECT YOUR LEADERSHIP, BUT
12:37:00 1:15 --
12:37:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I RESPECT THE FACT THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES
12:37:03 HAS MORE QUESTIONS.
12:37:08 I DON'T WANT TO -- I NEVER LIKE TO CUT COUNCILMEMBERS
12:37:09 CUT ON SUBSTANCE.
12:37:14 COME BACK HERE AT 1:20 SHARP.
12:37:16 AND I KNOW SOME OF US CAN'T MAKE IT.
12:37:17 I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
12:37:20 THIS IS UNFORESEEABLE TO MEET THE 1:30.
12:37:23 THE PROBLEM IS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH R
12:37:24 63.
12:37:28 BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN HOPE THEM GET THEM BOTH IN THE 16
12:37:30 OR SO MINUTES.
12:37:32 WE WILL TRY OUR HARDEST.
12:37:32 MA'AM.
12:37:35 WHAT TIME -- WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:20.
12:37:36 COUNCILMEMBERS.
12:37:38 LET'S BE BACK HERE PROMPTLY.
12:37:42 THE FOUR OF US AT 1:20 TO GET THIS THING DONE.
[Recess]
13:21:46 THANK YOU
13:21:49 >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
13:21:52 AND TO GET A MOVE ON WITH THESE TWO HEARS.
13:21:57 SO LET'S BEGIN.
13:21:59 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:22:01 YOU SAID YOU HAD A FEW QUESTIONS, SIR.
13:22:12 PREGUNTAS.
13:22:14 [INAUDIBLE]
13:22:17 >> I WORN IN THIS MORNING, YES.
13:22:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS ASKING HOW LONG HAVE THEY OWNED
13:22:24 THAT HOME.
13:22:30 HOW LONG HAS THAT EXTENSION -- WAS THAT RECENTLY OR HOW
13:22:35 LONG HAS THAT BEEN ERECTED?
13:23:13 [SPEAKING THROUGH INTERPRETER]
13:23:16 >> AT THAT -- I PURCHASED THE HOME IN 1976.
13:23:25 AND IN 1992192, I CLOSED IN THE CARPORT.
13:23:33 WHAT ELSE DID HE ASK ME?
13:23:40 >> THE ROOF.
13:23:45 WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
13:23:48 HOLD ON.
13:23:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE EXTENSION ROOF, THE PILLARS THAT
13:23:55 YOU HAVE SCREENED IN?
13:24:01 >> YES.
13:24:04 ABOUT THREE YEARS, THREE, FOUR YEARS.
13:24:10 >> AROUND FOUR, FOUR, THREE, FOUR, THREE, FOUR YEARS.
13:24:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, MY LAST QUESTION LISTENING TO
13:24:18 THE OTHER RESIDENTS AND THEIR COMPLAINTS, THIS IS THIS
13:24:24 A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING BECAUSE A RENTER PROPERTY.
13:24:38 THEY MADE MENTION OF RENTERS ON THE PROPERTY.
13:24:40 >> NO.
13:24:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO MEANING WHAT?
13:25:00 >> NO -- [SPEAKING THROUGH INTERPRETER]
13:25:04 >> NO, NO, I HAVE THIS GUY -- A KID.
13:25:05 HE IS A STUDENT.
13:25:10 HE IS THERE LIVING TEMPORARILY BUT HE IS NOT RENTING.
13:25:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE HOUSE.
13:25:17 IS IT A FAMILY RESIDENCE HOUSE AND IS THERE AN
13:25:21 EXTENSION TOWARD SOMEONE LIVING THERE OR A FAMILY
13:25:25 RESIDENCE HOUSE.
13:25:29 [SPEAKING THROUGH INTERPRETER]
13:25:30 >> IT IS A RESIDENCE.
13:25:34 YEAH, A RESIDENTIAL HOME, SINGLE, SINGLE.
13:25:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD,
13:25:44 COUNCILMEN, WITH REGARD TO WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY, I
13:25:48 ASK THAT YOU LOOK SPECIFICALLY TO THE CARPORT AND
13:25:52 SPECIFICALLY YOU ARE ABLE TO JUDGE THE CREDIBILITY AND
13:25:56 WEIGH THE CREDIBILITY OF WITNESSES, ONE OF THE RULES --
13:26:01 ONE OF THE ROLES YOU DO PLAY, BUT ALSO REMIND YOU THAT
13:26:03 ULTIMATELY THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC REQUEST
13:26:06 AND THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA.
13:26:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE MY ANSWERS, THANK YOU.
13:26:13 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:26:16 GRACIAS, SENORA.
13:26:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:26:21 TO THE APPLICANT, NOTHING ELSE?
13:26:28 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING IF I CAN.
13:26:36 THE -- I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE -- THE SON --
13:26:38 SUN HITS THE HOUSE FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE NOT --
13:26:43 YOU KNOW, THE SUN COMES UP ALL MORNING LONG ON THE
13:26:51 FRONT OF THE HOUSE, NOT THE BACK.
13:27:03 AND ALL OF THIS COMPLAINTS ARE NOT TRUE.
13:27:15 AND IT ALL COMES ABOUT BECAUSE I CUT SOME OF HER -- ON
13:27:15 THE SIDE.
13:27:26 I CUT IT SOME OF HER GRASS -- HER -- HER FLOWERS OR --
13:27:40 I DON'T KNOW.
13:27:42 >> IT WAS -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT, YOU KNOW,
13:27:47 THEY WEREN'T FLOWERS BUT LIKE PLANTS THERE.
13:27:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MAN.
13:27:51 >> GRACIAS.
13:27:53 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
13:27:55 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
13:28:01 SECOND BY GUDES.
13:28:05 IT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
13:28:09 >> WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ISSUE IN QUESTION IS THE
13:28:11 CARPORT ON THE SIDE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
13:28:12 HERE.
13:28:17 AND I THINK HARDSHIP HAS BEEN -- HAS BEEN CLEARLY
13:28:23 DESCRIBED WITH THE TESTIMONY OR THE COMMENTS FROM THE
13:28:24 GENTLEMAN ORIGINALLY.
13:28:27 HE WENT SECTION 27-80.
13:28:29 AS I MENTIONED, WE SEE A LOT OF THIS THROUGHOUT THE
13:28:33 CITY OF TAMPA AND AN UNIQUE SITUATION.
13:28:36 WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT CARPORT THERE AND MAKE THE
13:28:41 MOTION TO OVERTURN THE VRB -- APPROVE THE SIDE YARD
13:28:44 VARIANT FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FEET -- TO FUN FOOT, TO
13:28:48 RETAIN AN EXISTING ON SCREEN PATIO BECAUSE DEMONSTRATED
13:28:52 THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN
13:28:57 SECTION 27.8.
13:28:59 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
13:29:01 I WILL YIELD FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE VOTE AND SECOND
13:29:02 IT.
13:29:04 AND I GUESS YIELD BACK.
13:29:06 ALL IN FAVOR.
13:29:07 AYE.
13:29:09 ANY OPPOSED?
13:29:14 >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH DINGFELDER AND CITRO BEING
13:29:24 ABSENT FOR VOTE.
13:29:28 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MOMENT?
13:29:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT A QUASI EYE JUDICIAL MEETING ONLY
13:29:35 FOUR --
13:29:41 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:29:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO OVERTURN THE VRB AND FAILED WITH
13:29:52 MYSELF OWE.
13:29:55 AND THE REST OPPOSING IT.
13:29:56 AND IF YOU CAN --
13:30:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS WELLS, IF I CAN, FOR PURPOSES ON
13:30:02 THE RECORD ON THIS.
13:30:04 WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO TAKE AT THIS
13:30:12 POINT BEING HOW COUNCILMAN CITRO REENTERED THE ROOM AND
13:30:18 WAS NOT PRESENT FOR THE DISCUSSION.
13:30:21 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE REDO THE MOTION.
13:30:26 WE VOTE WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO TAKING PART.
13:30:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY ONLY CONCERN IS HE WAS ABSENT FOR
13:30:32 THE TESTIMONY.
13:30:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I ASK HOW MUCH TESTIMONY IN THE 14
13:30:36 MINUTES.
13:30:40 WAS IT ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I WAS HERE EARLIER.
13:30:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE MISSED NINE MINUTES APART.
13:30:45 >>CLERK: COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD QUESTION OF THE
13:30:49 APPLICANT WITH THE NATURE OF THE USE OF THE HOME, AND
13:30:55 HOW LONG THE CARPORT -- HOW LONG THEY OWNED THE HOME
13:30:58 AND HOW LONG THE CARPORT BEEN INSTALLED IN ITS CURRENT
13:31:01 CONDITION.
13:31:05 AND THAT WAS GENERALLY IT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT
13:31:08 TESTIMONY AGAIN IF YOU FEEL IT IS RELEVANT TO THE
13:31:12 CRITERIA IS SECTION 27-80.
13:31:15 OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT
13:31:18 EVIDENT AND GENERALLY THE NATURE OF THE TESTIMONY
13:31:21 ELICITED FROM THE APPLICANT.
13:31:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BASED ON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
13:31:27 EVIDENCE EARLIER I FEEL THAT I CAN MAKE.
13:31:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
13:31:32 LET ME SAY THIS WITH THE PURPOSE OF COUNCIL'S RULES.
13:31:34 WHEN A MOTION FAILS TO RECEIVE FOUR VOTES, MOTION FAILS
13:31:38 AND IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, THE PUBLIC
13:31:41 HEARING WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO
13:31:44 A TIME CERTAIN AT THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED COUNCIL
13:31:49 MEETING BUT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CITRO CAME IN.
13:31:52 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S MOVE THIS.
13:31:57 ANOTHER MOTION THAT THE COUNCILMEMBER CAN MAKE.
13:31:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEREFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO
13:32:02 OVERTURN THE VR B'S DECISION AND APPROVE THE SIDE I
13:32:04 CAN'T REMEMBER THE FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE VOTE TO
13:32:07 RETAIN AN EXISTING COVERED OR SCREEN PATIO BECAUSE THE
13:32:10 PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THE QUESTION MEETS THE
13:32:15 HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND WE HEARD THAT FROM THE GENTLEMAN
13:32:20 OF THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND PLED HIS FACE.
13:32:22 >> I YIELD TO SECOND THAT AND YIELD BACK.
13:32:26 ALL IN FAVOR OF MANISCALCO'S MOTION.
13:32:32 ANY OPPOSED?
13:32:37 [INAUDIBLE]
13:32:43 >> GUDES, CITRO AND CARLSON MIRANDA VOTING NO.
13:32:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MANY VOTED YES.
13:32:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THE MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
13:32:51 A SUBSTITUTE OR ADDITIONAL MOTION THAT SOMEBODY WOULD
13:32:52 LIKE TO MAKE.
13:32:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPROVE THE VRB'S DECISION TO
13:33:01 DENY THE APPLICANT'S PETITION FOR SEVEN FEET AND RETAIN
13:33:04 THE PETITIONER HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT PETITION
13:33:09 MEETS HARDSHIP CRITERIA SET FORTH IN 27 A.
13:33:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
13:33:13 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
13:33:16 SECONDED FIRST BY COUNCILMAN CITRO IMMEDIATELY
13:33:20 AFTERWARDS BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
13:33:21 ALL IN FAVOR.
13:33:27 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH MANISCALCO AND VIERA
13:33:28 VOTING NO.
13:33:31 >>> NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM AND GO BACK TO
13:33:33 STEP TO 63.
13:33:37 NOW MISS WELLS, IT ANYONE HERE FOR OUR 1:30?
13:33:39 OKAY, BECAUSE I ADVISED THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE
13:33:41 WOULD BE ABOUT TEN MINUTES OR SO LATE.
13:33:47 I KNOW OUR INTERPRETER NEEDS TO LEAVE HERE.
13:33:52 SO WE WILL -- MISS WELLS, IS YOUR COUNSEL IN THAT
13:33:53 REGARD, MA'AM?
13:33:57 >> I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH ITEM 63.
13:33:58 VIERA VEER LET'S DO IT.
13:34:03 AND COUNCILMEMBERS, MAKE ALL ROBUST INQUIRIES BUT ONLY
13:34:05 THOSE THAT ARE NECESSARY AS ALWAYS.
13:34:08 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
13:34:09 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD AFTERNOON.
13:34:11 CATE WELLS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
13:34:15 I PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED THE HEARING PROCEDURES.
13:34:18 THE SAME PROCEDURES APPLY IN THIS MATTER THAN APPLIED
13:34:19 IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.
13:34:23 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW IS DE NOVO WHICH MEANS THAT THE
13:34:27 COUNCIL SITS AT THE SAME SHOES OR SEATS AS THE VARIANCE
13:34:31 REVIEW BOARD AND DECIDE BASED THE APPLICANT ON THE
13:34:36 RECORD OF TODAY'S HEARING HAVE MET THEIR PROOF 27-80.
13:34:41 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY
13:34:45 FOR A REVIEW OF THE VRB HEARING AND SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR
13:34:46 YOUR CONSIDERATION.
13:34:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
13:34:55 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY, PLANNING DESIGN
13:34:55 AND COORDINATION.
13:35:00 I HAVE BEEN WORN IN.
13:35:04 17-156 AND 290.
13:35:10 APPLICANT SEEKING TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FROM
13:35:11 20 FEET TO THREE FEET.
13:35:16 WE HAVE A SITE PLAN FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
13:35:17 THIS THE FRONT YARD.
13:35:19 THIS IS THE CORNER YARD.
13:35:21 REAR YARD, SIDE YARD.
13:35:24 THE REAR YARD WAS GOING TO BE REDUCED OR REQUESTED TO
13:35:28 BE REDUCED BECAUSE OF THIS SPACE HERE FROM 20 FEET TO
13:35:30 THREE FEET.
13:35:34 THE SIDE YARD WAS BEING REQUESTED TO BE REDUCED FROM
13:35:37 SEVEN FEET TO ZERO FEET.
13:35:39 THE APPLICANT DID CHANGE HIS REQUEST AT THE HEARING TO
13:35:42 BE SEVEN FEET TO 18 INCHES.
13:35:45 1.5 FEET.
13:35:53 THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST WAS TO REDUCE THE SEPARATION OF
13:36:02 THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FROM FIVE FEET EAVE TO EAVE TO
13:36:05 ZERO THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND AGREED TO DO THAT FOR
13:36:05 THIS HEARING.
13:36:12 THE REVIEW IS FOR THE FIRST ITEMS DISCUSSED.
13:36:17 I HAVE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM
13:36:21 OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
13:36:23 >>LUIS VIERA: APPRECIATE IT.
13:36:24 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:36:25 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:36:28 THE BUILDING LOOK LIKE COCK-EYED ON THE PROPERTY.
13:36:39 WAS THIS TOTAL BUILDING LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
13:36:42 WAS ALL PERMITTING DONE ON THE BUILDING AT THE TIME IT
13:36:43 WAS CONSTRUCTED?
13:36:47 >> THE ADDITION AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND IS A CODE
13:36:51 VIOLATION AND DIDN'T HAVE PERMITS.
13:36:55 >> IT WAS BUILT -- I AM RELAYING WHAT YOU JUST SAID
13:36:57 BUILT WITHOUT PERMITS?
13:36:57 >> YES.
13:36:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HIGH LAST QUESTION AND I WILL BE
13:37:01 QUICK, CHAIR.
13:37:07 AS I WAS TRYING TO ALLUDE TO IN A PRIOR, IF INSPECTION
13:37:15 WENT ON RIGHT NOW, WOULD THIS ADDITION BE CERTIFIED AS,
13:37:20 OF COURSE, BEING SAFE AND MEETING ALL REQUIREMENTS?
13:37:24 >> I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE CONSTRUCTIONAL INTEGRITY OF
13:37:26 THE STRUCTURE.
13:37:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
13:37:32 >>LUIS VIERA: APPLICANT?
13:37:36 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBERS FOR THE
13:37:37 COMMUNITY.
13:37:42 MY NAME IS MISS ALVAREZ AND HERE IN REPRESENTATION AND
13:37:44 TRANSLATE FOR HIM.
13:37:47 I WILL GO AHEAD AND I AM VERY AWARE OF THE WHOLE THING
13:37:53 AND WILL DO A PRESENTATION.
13:38:01 THIS IS -- CAN YOU -- I AM DOING A --
13:38:05 >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU HAVE THE DVD OF THE VRB HEARING?
13:38:09 >> YES.
13:38:12 HOW DO I -- THIS IS OUR BIGGER PICTURE OF THE SITE
13:38:14 PLAN.
13:38:19 THIS IS WHAT --
13:38:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR GIVE ME, THIS IS MY OVERSIGHT.
13:38:27 I NEGLECTED TO ASK FOR THE DVDS TO BE PUT INTO THE
13:38:27 RECORD.
13:38:28 >> THEY ARE HERE.
13:38:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
13:38:34 AND MADAM CLERK, I APOLOGIZE AGAIN.
13:38:34 >> SORRY.
13:38:36 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
13:38:42 WHAT IS ACTUALLY THIS AREA HERE IS WHERE HE HAS PART OF
13:38:45 THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN WITHOUT A PERMIT.
13:38:50 AND WHEN WE ASKED HIM IS BASICALLY A VARIANCE TO REDUCE
13:38:57 THE SETBACK FROM THIS AREA HERE AND THE SIDE OF THE
13:38:59 PROPERTY.
13:39:03 WE HAVE -- WE ACTUALLY REMOVED ONE OF THE -- STRUCTURE
13:39:11 THAT'S WAS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE AGREED TO REMOVE.
13:39:14 IT IS RIGHT HERE.
13:39:19 I DON'T KNOW IF I AM DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.
13:39:20 OKAY.
13:39:23 THAT IS WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS THAT WAS ALREADY BEING
13:39:24 REMOVED.
13:39:26 EVERYBODY HAS BEEN CLEANED UP AND EVERYTHING.
13:39:30 AND THIS IS -- THIS IS THE PART OF HOW IT LOOKS LIKE.
13:39:35 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE -- IF WE WERE ASKING ACTUALLY FOR
13:39:38 THREE FEET -- FRONT OR BACK -- I AM SORRY.
13:39:41 WE WERE ASKING FOR THREE FEET, BUT ACTUALLY WE HAVE A
13:39:42 LITTLE MORE.
13:39:46 WE HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR FEET FROM THE STRUCTURE TO THE
13:39:51 FENCE.
13:39:54 I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PASS ON THE PICTURE AND MIGHT BE
13:39:56 ABLE TO SEE.
13:40:03 THIS IS HOW THE -- THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS ALL
13:40:18 BEING CLEANED UP.
13:40:20 >> THERE YOU GO.
13:40:23 THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A SIDE WALL AROUND THE PROPERTY.
13:40:30 AND IT IS ABOUT FOUR FEET FROM THE FENCE.
13:40:33 AND ALSO TO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION -- THE
13:40:38 PREVIOUS QUESTION YOU ASK ABOUT THE -- WE ALREADY -- WE
13:40:39 HAVE AN ENGINEER.
13:40:42 WE CALL AN ENGINEER AND WENT THROUGH THE PROPERTY, AND
13:40:44 HE -- HE ALREADY.
13:40:47 IT IS NOT CONFIRMED AND HAS TO GO TO THE PERMITTING
13:40:51 PROCESS, AND CONFIRM THAT THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN WELL
13:40:56 BUILT AND HAVE NO PROBLEMS GOING THROUGH PERMITTING AND
13:41:00 IF WE CAN BRING THIS VARIANCE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH
13:41:04 PERMITTING.
13:41:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
13:41:08 ANYTHING ELSE.
13:41:09 >> YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
13:41:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
13:41:14 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
13:41:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. SHARE.
13:41:19 IN THIS PHOTO APPEARS TO BE TWO USES.
13:41:19 TWO BUILDINGS.
13:41:22 ARE BOTH OF THOSE SET BUILDINGS THE ADDITION THAT WAS
13:41:26 DONE WITHOUT PERMITTING?
13:41:26 >> NO.
13:41:30 THIS AREA -- AS YOU SEE THIS SITE PLAN, THIS IS THE
13:41:30 AREA.
13:41:33 >> ALL THE SAME BUILDING.
13:41:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
13:41:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
13:41:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
13:41:42 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HEAR TO COMMENT ON ITEM 63.
13:41:44 IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD.
13:41:47 MA'AM, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
13:41:51 >> I HAVE LETTERS FROM ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS, A LOT OF
13:41:52 THE NEIGHBORS.
13:41:52 ALL IN FAVOR.
13:41:55 THE CLOSE NEIGHBORS IN HERE.
13:41:59 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU DON'T MIND SO WE CAN SEE THAT.
13:42:01 ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM, BEFORE WE CLOSE.
13:42:04 MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
13:42:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
13:42:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
13:42:13 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
13:42:24 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
13:42:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE IS NO PLEASURE IN DOING
13:42:29 THESE.
13:42:31 >> NO, THERE IS NOT.
13:42:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
13:42:38 THAT THIS WHOLE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL
13:42:43 BOARD HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED TO COLLECT BECAUSE WHEN YOU
13:42:48 BUILD AN R 1 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOT AND CONTINUE TO
13:42:49 EXPAND.
13:42:52 THERE ARE NO TAX COLLECTION ON NONE OF IT.
13:42:56 WHEN DO YOU THAT, AND YOU DON'T PAY FEDERAL INCOME TAX,
13:42:59 YOU DON'T PAY ANYTHING AND I AM -- I AM TALKING ABOUT
13:43:01 ALL OF THEM.
13:43:04 IT PUTS THE JEOPARDY OF THE COST ON THOSE WHO ARE
13:43:05 PAYING THE TAXES.
13:43:10 SO THAT IS ANOTHER DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE, NOT ONLY FOR
13:43:12 THESE PEOPLE HERE BUT THE THOUSANDS OF THEM.
13:43:16 I WILL SAY THOUSANDS -- THOUSANDS THAT HAVE DONE IT
13:43:19 WITH OR WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE THAT CREATED SOMEONE ELSE
13:43:21 PAYING SOMEONE ELSE'S FAIR SHARE.
13:43:24 THAT IS A ANOTHER QUESTION THAT HAS NEVER BEEN
13:43:26 ANSWERED.
13:43:31 WHEN YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT, AND -- AND THERE ARE
13:43:34 AREAS OF THIS CITY THAT HAVE MANY, MANY MORE THAN
13:43:34 OTHERS.
13:43:37 SOME HAVE VERY LITTLE TO NONE.
13:43:39 AND SOME HAVE THOUSANDS OF THEM.
13:43:40 AND THIS IS A PROBLEM.
13:43:44 AND THIS ADMINISTRATION FROM WHAT I SEE IS MOVING
13:43:47 FORWARD TO CORRECT THESE THINGS.
13:43:51 BY CHANGING SOME AREAS OF WHO IS IN CHARGE OF WHAT AND
13:43:54 HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
13:44:00 SO I CAN'T -- I CANNOT VOTE TO GIVE THIS INDIVIDUAL THE
13:44:03 RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE OR SHE IS DOING.
13:44:06 BECAUSE THERE IS JUST A LOT TO IT THAN WHAT I HAVE
13:44:08 HEARD, FROM WHAT I SEE.
13:44:12 THAT IS JUST MY TAKE.
13:44:15 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN, IF YOU MAY.
13:44:19 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE TO APPROVE THE VRB'S DECISION
13:44:23 TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR A SIDE YARD VARIANCE FROM
13:44:26 SEVEN FEET TO ONE -- TO THREE FEET, RIGHT?
13:44:30 TO -- NO, THAT IS THE WRONG -- SORRY.
13:44:31 ANYWAY.
13:44:33 I WOULD MOVE --
13:44:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU WANT TO DENY THIS IS THE ONE.
13:44:38 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO APPROVE THE VRB'S DECISION TO
13:44:42 DENY THE APPLICATION FOR A SIDE YARD FROM SEVEN FEET TO
13:44:48 ONE FEET FOR EXISTING COVER TO FAIL TO DEMONSTRATE THE
13:44:51 POSITION --
13:44:59 >> ITEM 63, VRB-106.
13:45:01 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT?
13:45:06 MOVE TO APPROVE THE VRB DECISION TO DENY BECAUSE I
13:45:08 HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT WE SHOULD OVERTURN THE
13:45:10 RULING.
13:45:12 >> SECOND.
13:45:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
13:45:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING IN A FEW
13:45:21 MINUTES BEHIND.
13:45:30 IF I CAN ASK -- I JUST NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATION, I
13:45:38 HEARD THE WORD "PATIO" OR "PORCH?"
13:45:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NEVER GOT THE SECOND ONE --
13:45:44 >>BILL CARLSON: FORGET THE LAST MOTION -- I READ THE
13:45:45 WRONG ONE.
13:45:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PUTTING THE MOTION ASIDE.
13:45:52 I NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE STRUCTURE BUILT.
13:45:53 MOVE TO REOPEN.
13:45:55 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR.
13:45:57 ANY OPPOSED.
13:45:59 GO FOR IT.
13:46:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST STAFF ON THIS.
13:46:02 I DON'T KNOW WHO IS STAFF ON THIS.
13:46:07 THANK YOU, ROBERTA.
13:46:09 SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.
13:46:13 WHAT WAS THE ULTIMATE STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT.
13:46:19 >> ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
13:46:20 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
13:46:22 BASICALLY THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS A HOUSE HERE.
13:46:26 AND THE ADDITIONS WERE SOMEWHERE WITHIN THIS VICINITY
13:46:27 AND BACK HERE.
13:46:31 THE SHED AS THEY DEMONSTRATED WAS REMOVED AND HE AGREED
13:46:33 TO DO THAT IN THE HEARING.
13:46:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
13:46:38 "ADDITION,"WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING SPACE
13:46:40 UNDER ROOF?
13:46:43 >> A PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE WAS A CARPORT AND THE
13:46:47 OTHER STRUCTURES WERE AIR-CONDITIONED SPACE, YES, SIR.
13:46:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE ARE THEY.
13:46:52 THEY GOT SITED OR SOMETHING.
13:46:56 BUT THE CONSTRUCTION DONE OR BEEN DONE?
13:46:58 >> IT IS EXISTING AT THIS TIME, YES.
13:47:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT SHOWING IT IS ANY SIGNS OF
13:47:05 CONTINUING AND PRETTY MUCH DONE.
13:47:05 >> COMPLETE.
13:47:09 >> UNDER THE CODE AND NOT YOU PERSONALLY BUT UNDER THE
13:47:10 CODE.
13:47:16 IF COUNCIL AFFIRMS THE VRB RECOMMENDATION, THE VRB
13:47:21 DECISION, AND MIGHT HAVE RECOURSE GOING TO COURT AND
13:47:22 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
13:47:24 PUTTING ASIDE.
13:47:27 IF WE AFFIRM THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THEIR
13:47:32 ADDITION AND GO BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL STRUCTURE
13:47:34 TEARING DOWN EVERYTHING WHAT THEY DID.
13:47:36 >> TECHNICALLY WILL HAVE TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
13:47:36 SETBACKS.
13:47:42 >> IT IF NOT ALL OF IT TEAR DOWN A PORTION OF IT AND
13:47:45 BRING DRAWINGS TO GET A PERMIT.
13:47:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
13:47:52 MR. CHAIRMAN FOR THE REOPENING.
13:47:59 AND I GUESS -- LEGAL WOULD PROBABLY TELL US THAT WE
13:48:03 SHOULDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION -- I WAS READING THE
13:48:10 HARDSHIP -- THE HARDSHIP THAT -- THAT HE PROPOSED.
13:48:13 TRANSLATED.
13:48:15 I CAN'T FIND IT.
13:48:16 THERE IT IS.
13:48:19 I CONSTRUCTED THESE ROOMS BECAUSE MY FAMILY IS TOO BIG
13:48:21 FOR MY HOUSE AND TOO SMALL.
13:48:27 ME, MY WIFE, THREE KIDS AND MY EX-WIFE.
13:48:31 I GUESS THAT IS A FACTOR WE CAN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER
13:48:32 THE EXTENDED FAMILY.
13:48:37 BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, WE CAN CLOSE AND I CAN --
13:48:40 >> I WOULD ASK BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE HEARING YOU ALLOW
13:48:43 REBUTTAL SINCE YOU TOOK ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY FROM
13:48:44 STAFF.
13:48:46 >>LUIS VIERA: TO THE APPLICANT, DO YOU WISH TO SAY
13:48:50 ANYTHING FURTHER AFTER THE LAST QUESTION WAS HELD?
13:48:51 >> YES.
13:48:55 >>LUIS VIERA: GO FORWARD IF YOU WISH, MA'AM.
13:48:59 >> ON HIS BEHALF, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHAT HE WAS
13:49:03 SAYING ABOUT THE TAX ISSUE, THE COLLECTING; HOWEVER, HE
13:49:07 -- HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
13:49:12 COST A LOT OF MONEY AT TIME TO BE PERMITTING, AND HE
13:49:13 WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THAT.
13:49:16 HOWEVER HE WAS WILLING TO DO THE RIGHT THING NOW, AND
13:49:19 HIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN APPRAISED.
13:49:23 AND HE IS PAYING TAXES FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, EVEN
13:49:28 IF -- WITHOUT BEING PERMITTING.
13:49:32 WHERE HE REALLY ARE ASKING YOU IS THE SETBACK WHEN
13:49:37 REALLY TO REPRESENT A HARDSHIP FOR ANY OF THE
13:49:37 NEIGHBORS.
13:49:38 THEY ARE ALL OKAY WITH THAT.
13:49:41 WE ARE WILLING TO PURSUE WITH THE PERMITTING PROCESS
13:49:44 AND IF WE HAVE TO PAY A FINE FOR WHATEVER THE CASE IS
13:49:48 TO CORRECT WHAT HE DID, WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT.
13:49:52 BUT I WOULD COST HIM A LOT OF MONEY TO TURN DOWN THE
13:49:55 WHOLE THING AND REBUILD EVERYTHING.
13:49:59 AND WE REALLY ARE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, TO CONSIDER
13:50:01 THIS SITUATION.
13:50:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
13:50:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
13:50:05 WE APPRECIATE IT.
13:50:06 MOTION TO CLOSE.
13:50:09 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
13:50:10 CITRO.
13:50:13 ANY OPPOSED?
13:50:15 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
13:50:16 SECOND --
13:50:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HEAR THAT MOTION AGAIN FOR CLARITY OF
13:50:20 THE RECORD.
13:50:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE WE APPROVE THE V+ R B'S
13:50:25 DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE NO EVIDENCE
13:50:29 HAS BEEN SHOWN TO JUSTIFY OVERTURNING IT.
13:50:30 >>LUIS VIERA: WHO SECONDED THAT?
13:50:32 I APOLOGIZE.
13:50:34 COUNCILMAN -- CITRO.
13:50:36 SIR, YOU WISH TO SPEAK?
13:50:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THESE ARE NEVER EASY.
13:50:42 JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN CITRO, I SERVED ON THE VARIANCE
13:50:44 BOARD FOR MANY YEARS.
13:50:52 YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT EASY.
13:50:58 I THINK IT IS -- NOTABLE ON THE ONE -- ONE OF VARIANCES
13:51:00 THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IS ON THE ACCESSORY
13:51:05 STRUCTURE WHICH IS NOW MOOT BECAUSE THEY REMOVE THE
13:51:09 ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO COME INTO
13:51:11 COMPLIANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
13:51:13 ANYWAY, THAT IS MY TWO SECTS.
13:51:14 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
13:51:16 ALL IN FAVOR.
13:51:17 ANY OPPOSED.
13:51:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NAY.
13:51:23 >>CLERK: DINGFELDER VOTED NO.
13:51:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:51:34 ON WARD FORWARD TO ITEM 76.
13:51:37 THANK YOU, PLANNING COMMISSION, FOR THE LAST 20 MINUTES
13:51:39 FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
13:51:47 GO FOR IT.
13:51:51 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MELISSA ZORNITA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
13:51:53 OF THE CITY-COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
13:51:58 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK THIS AFTERNOON TO PRESENT
13:52:01 SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT
13:52:05 PROJECTIONS FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
13:52:11 THIS INFORMATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE UPDATE EVERY FIVE
13:52:14 YEARS TO UNDERSTAND EXISTING TRENDS AND WHAT THAT MIGHT
13:52:20 MEAN FOR THE FUTURE, FOR POPULATION AND JOB GROWTH.
13:52:24 WE IN THIS CASE TOOK A LOOK ALSO AT A REAL ESTATE
13:52:28 MARKET ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE
13:52:35 SOME OF THOSE TRENDS ARE -- ARE SHOWING IN OUR
13:52:35 COMMUNITY.
13:52:40 WE LOOK AT SEVERAL SCENARIOS HOW THAT GROWTH PLAYED OUT
13:52:44 AND WE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH A SURVEY
13:52:47 CALLED IT'S TIME HILLSBOROUGH THAT WAS DONE LAST SUMMER
13:52:50 TO ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO SEE
13:52:54 GROWTH FOCUSED.
13:53:00 AND THEN PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER INIAL OCCASION THAT IS
13:53:04 USED BY DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS AS THEY MAKE
13:53:06 DIFFERENT POLICY AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
13:53:10 THESE PROJECTIONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ADOPTED.
13:53:13 BUT THEY ARE SOMETHING THAT THE STATE DOES REQUIRE US
13:53:15 TO UTILIZE IN OUR PLANNING.
13:53:20 THEY ASK -- THIS IS JUST A SECTION OF THE STATUTE THAT
13:53:21 REFERS TO.
13:53:24 THAT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR AT LEAST A TEN-YEAR TIME
13:53:25 HORIZON.
13:53:29 AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO USE THE -- THE PROJECTIONS
13:53:32 ISSUED BY THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC AND RESEARCH OUT OF
13:53:34 THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
13:53:39 AND THESE PROJECTIONS AS I SAID ARE USED TO UNDERSTAND
13:53:42 THE RAMIFICATION OF SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT MIGHT
13:53:46 FACE YOU AS WELL AS YOUR COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNTY
13:53:49 COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF PLANT CITY AND TEMPLE
13:53:52 TERRACE AS YOU ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT
13:53:53 INFRASTRUCTURE.
13:53:56 THEY ARE UTILIZED IN THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION
13:54:00 PLANNING PROCESS THAT THE MPO DOES, THE SCHOOL
13:54:03 FACILITIES PLANNING PROCESS, OTHER MASTER PLANS FOR
13:54:07 THINGS LIKE FIRE RESCUE SERVICES.
13:54:11 AND WE ALSO USE THEM SORT OF A CHECK TO SEE IF THE
13:54:15 TRENDS AND DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE ARE TAKING US
13:54:19 -- ARE CONTINUING TO BE IN A LINE WITH THE CITY'S
13:54:22 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR A NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES
13:54:26 THERE.
13:54:35 SO THE PROJECTIONS FOR 2045, THAT OUR COMMUNITY,
13:54:40 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS A WHOLE WILL BE OVER $2 -- TWO
13:54:43 MILLION PEOPLE.
13:54:45 WE HAVE BEEN STEADILY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION OVER THE
13:54:48 LAST TEN YEARS AS A COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
13:54:52 WE HAVE ADDED 23,000 PEOPLE ON AVERAGE PER YEAR.
13:54:56 AND THEN THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS ADDED ON AVERAGE ABOUT
13:54:58 6,000 PEOPLE WE ARE YEAR.
13:55:02 BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IN -- JUST IN THE LAST YEAR
13:55:07 BETWEEN 2018 AND 2019, THAT WAS CLOSE TO 12,000 PEOPLE.
13:55:10 SO THE -- THE GROWTH IS -- IS STEADY.
13:55:14 IT'S BEEN INCREASING IN THE RECENT YEARS THAT WE HAVE
13:55:17 COME OUT OF THE RECESSION AND WE ARE ALL FEELING THE
13:55:20 IMPACTS OF THAT AND THAT IS A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE
13:55:24 HEARING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
13:55:27 WE LOOK AT A NUMBER TRENDS HOW WE ARE DOING.
13:55:30 AND ONE OF THEM IS TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE DEVELOPING IN
13:55:32 TERMS OF OUR DENSITY.
13:55:35 THE BLUE COLUMN IN EACH OF THESE IS THE AVERAGE THAT
13:55:39 YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS IN TERMS OF DENSITY FOR
13:55:40 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
13:55:44 AND THE TAN IN EACH CASE IS ON AVERAGE ACROSS THE
13:55:47 JURISDICTION WHAT THAT -- WHAT IS BUILT.
13:55:51 SO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON AVERAGE ALLOWS 19
13:55:58 UNITS PER ACRE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA ON FIVE DWELLING
13:55:59 UNITS PER ACRE.
13:56:02 EACH OF THE JURISDICTION IS ALLOWED FOR WHAT IS ON
13:56:04 AVERAGE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
13:56:06 AND SIMILARLY.
13:56:10 THE SAME THING AS IT COMES TO FLOOR AREA RATIO, THE
13:56:13 MEASURE OF INTENSITY OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
13:56:17 THOSE ARE -- HAVE TRADITIONALLY -- THE DEVELOPMENT HAS
13:56:21 BEEN WELL BELOW WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PERMITS.
13:56:25 WE TOOK AT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND WHERE THAT HAS BEEN
13:56:30 OCCURRING AND IN PARTICULAR, WHERE MULTIFAMILY
13:56:32 DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN OCCURRING AND A NUMBER OF HOT
13:56:37 SPOTS PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AROUND
13:56:41 DOWNTOWN, SOME THE AREAS IN WESTSHORE, UP AROUND THE
13:56:47 UNIVERSITY AREA.
13:56:50 WE LOOK GENERALLY WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING
13:56:55 PERMITS ARE FOCUSED AND AGAIN FROM 2011 TO 2017, YOU
13:56:59 CAN SEE A COUPLE -- THREE AREAS OF FOCUS THERE,
13:57:03 DOWNTOWN, WESTSHORE AND SORT OF THE WESTERN EDGE OF
13:57:05 BRANDON ALONG I-75.
13:57:08 IN TERMS OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
13:57:12 DOWNTOWN AND WESTSHORE CONTINUE TO BE HOT AREAS AND THE
13:57:17 AREA EAST OF THE AIRPORT.
13:57:20 IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT GROWTH.
13:57:25 THE DENSITY OF EMPLOYEES OF JOBS PER GROSS ACRE.
13:57:28 AND THE DARKER THE COLOR THE MORE JOBS THAT ARE
13:57:29 PREVALENT IN THOSE AREAS.
13:57:33 YOU CAN SEE THAT CONTINUES TO BE CENTERED AROUND THE
13:57:36 MAJOR BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
13:57:40 INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITY, SOME OF THE AREAS NORTH OF
13:57:43 THE AIRPORT START TO POP UP AND AS WELL AS STATE ROAD
13:57:46 60 CORRIDOR TO BRANDON.
13:57:50 SO SORT OF WHAT WE EXPLORED IN OUR SCENARIO IS WHAT
13:57:54 WOULD HAPPEN IF WE KEPT BUILDING THE WAY THAT WE HAVE,
13:57:58 BECAUSE AS THE TRENDS HAVE SHOWN, WE ARE BUILDING BELOW
13:58:00 THE DENSITY THAT HAS BEEN PERMITTED.
13:58:04 IF WE KEPT DOING THAT, COUNTYWIDE, WE WOULD BE LOOKING
13:58:08 AT NEEDING TO EXPAND INTO SOME OF OUR RURAL AREAS IN
13:58:09 THE FUTURE.
13:58:14 IT WOULD CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION
13:58:17 INVESTMENTS THAT ARE MORE HIGHWAY FOCUSED BECAUSE OF
13:58:20 THAT SPREADING OUT OF THE GROWTH AS OPPOSED TO FOCUSING
13:58:24 IT AROUND SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
13:58:27 SUPPORT GREATER ADDITIONAL MODES OF TRANSIT.
13:58:31 THIS SORT OF SHOWS IN THIS TIMELINE BETWEEN NOW AND
13:58:35 2045 WHEN WE MIGHT -- IF WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THE WAY
13:58:39 WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING, COUNTYWIDE, WE WOULD BUILD OUT
13:58:44 THE CITY'S AND THE -- AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA THEY
13:58:46 HAVE A URBAN SERVICE AREA WHERE THEY ARE TRYING TO
13:58:47 FOCUS GROWTH.
13:58:50 THAT WILL BUILD OUT AROUND 2035.
13:58:53 NOW I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.
13:58:57 NOTHING THAT IS SET IN STONE, BUT A WAY TO INFORM SOME
13:59:00 OF OUR DECISION MAKING BECAUSE IF THAT IS NOT THE
13:59:02 FUTURE WE WANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO MAKE
13:59:06 DECISIONS DIFFERENTLY NOW.
13:59:09 SO -- AND THAT IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.
13:59:12 WHAT WE HEARD TO THE COMMUNITY FROM OUR SURVEYS AND
13:59:17 PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PRESERVE A RURAL
13:59:19 PROPONENT OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
13:59:22 THEY WILL LIKE TO FOCUS GROWTH ON SOME OF THE
13:59:24 COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.
13:59:27 WHERE THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON TRANSIT
13:59:31 ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE GREATER INFILL AND
13:59:36 REDEVELOPMENT IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
13:59:41 THAT SCENARIO WOULD SUPPORT SOME ADDITIONAL MULTIMODAL
13:59:48 OPTIONS POTENTIALLY SOME FIXED SKYWAY TRANSIT, FURTHER
13:59:51 EXPRESS BUS OR RAPID TRANSIT AS WELL.
13:59:53 THIS LINES UP WITH THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT
13:59:57 ARE BEING PLANNED IN THE MPO'S LONG RANGE
14:00:00 TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
14:00:03 THIS ALSO LINES UP WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA'S EXISTING
14:00:08 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BY FOCUSES GROWTH PARTICULARLY IN
14:00:12 -- IN AND AROUND THE THREE BUSINESS DISTRICTS,
14:00:15 WESTSHORE, DOWNTOWN AND THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
14:00:20 SOME OF THE MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS CONNECTING THOSE
14:00:25 ARE ALSO A MAJOR FOCUS IN THE CITY'S LAND USE MAP AS
14:00:28 WELL AS ARTICULATED IN THE CITY'S VISION MAP.
14:00:34 IN TERMS OF SOME NUMBERS, THIS SHOWS SORT OF THE --
14:00:38 THE DIFFERENT SHARE OF THE POPULATION OF EACH OF THE
14:00:41 CITIES AS WELL AS THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
14:00:46 SO THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD GROW BY 61% BETWEEN NOW AND
14:00:50 2045.
14:00:54 ANOTHER 2012 PEOPLE.
14:00:58 IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT GROWTH, IT WOULD GROW ABOUT --
14:01:03 JUST OVER 200,000 EMPLOYEES.
14:01:07 LOOKING TO ADD THAT TODAY, THE CITY OF TAMPA MAKES UP
14:01:12 21% OF THE -- WELL, THIS IS 2015 POPULATION.
14:01:16 AND IN 2045, THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL MAKE UP 22% OF THE
14:01:20 OVERALL COUNTY POPULATION.
14:01:24 IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT, IN 2015, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
14:01:28 ABOUT 22% OF THE EMPLOYMENT COUNTYWIDE AND IN 2045, IT
14:01:31 WILL BE 33% OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT.
14:01:36 A LOT OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT IS FOCUSED ON THOSE THREE
14:01:37 BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
14:01:41 IN TERMS OF TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THERE WERE
14:01:44 SOME ASSUMPTIONS MADE IN THE -- IN THE MODELING THAT
14:01:47 GENERATED THESE NUMBERS THAT THERE WOULD BE TRANSIT
14:01:52 ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ALONG SOME FIXED SKYWAY TRANSIT,
14:01:55 ALONG THE CORRIDORS FROM THE AIRPORT DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN
14:01:57 TO THE UNIVERSITY.
14:02:00 AND THAT WOULD CONTEMPLATE BOTH THE TYPES OF TRANSIT
14:02:05 THAT HART IS LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF VRT, OR MORE FIXED
14:02:09 RAIL ALONG SOMETHING LIKE THE CSX LINES.
14:02:15 WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME ADDITIONAL BUS DRIVER TRANSIT
14:02:19 OUT TO THE BRANDON AREA.
14:02:22 AND ALLOWING FOR THAT TYPE OF TRANSIT ORIENTED
14:02:26 DEVELOPMENT ALLOW US TO ACCOMMODATE ONE OUT OF FOUR NEW
14:02:29 RESIDENTS AND ONE OUTS OF THREE NEW JOBS IN THOSE
14:02:30 AREAS.
14:02:34 SO IT REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS THE GROWTH IN
14:02:38 THOSE -- THOSE AREAS.
14:02:40 LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
14:02:45 THIS MAP IS HARD TO READ, BUT THE AREAS THAT ARE --
14:02:50 YELLOW, ORANGE OR RED, START TO POP OUT AS AREAS AS THE
14:02:54 BUILDING TO THE LAND VALUE RATIO IS SUCH THAT IT MIGHT
14:02:57 BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE LANDOWNER TO TEAR DOWN THE
14:02:59 BUILDING AND BUILD SOMETHING ELSE ON THE PROPERTY
14:03:01 BECAUSE THE LAND IS THAT VALUABLE.
14:03:04 AN INDICATOR THERE MIGHT BE POTENTIAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT
14:03:08 AND A LOT OF THAT IS ALONG OUR EXISTING COMMERCIAL
14:03:11 CORRIDORS.
14:03:14 WE HAVE A LITTLE FURTHER DRILL DOWN INTO THE NUMBERS.
14:03:19 WE LOOKED AT IT IN SUB AREAS WITHIN THE CITY AND THE
14:03:24 UNINCORPORATED COUNTY TO HAVE GET A BETTER FEEL FOR
14:03:25 WHERE THIS GROWTH IS GOING.
14:03:30 SO THIS SHOWS IN TURQUOISE THE EXISTING OR 2015
14:03:34 POPULATION, AND THE 2045 POPULATION.
14:03:41 AND A COUPLE THAT STAND OUT HERE IN THE CITY.
14:03:46 YOU CAN SEE DOWNTOWN IS A LOT OF FUTURE GROWTH.
14:03:48 SOUTH TAMPA HAS A GOOD CHUNK.
14:03:54 NORTH TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, A NUMBER THOSE POP OUT ACROSS
14:03:58 THE -- AND THEN IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT, IT STANDS OUT
14:04:03 EVEN MORE DOWNTOWN BEING A MAJOR FOCAL POINT FOR FUTURE
14:04:04 EMPLOYMENT GROWTH.
14:04:08 WESTSHORE CONTINUING TO BUILD ON THE SYNERGY THAT IS
14:04:09 THERE.
14:04:14 THE UNIVERSITY AREA OF BRANDON ALSO THERE ARE HIGH
14:04:14 THERE.
14:04:16 THAT IS THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE TO PRESENT AND
14:04:17 SHARE.
14:04:20 THERE'S -- AS I UNDERSTAND IT THERE IS GOING TO BE A
14:04:23 WORKSHOP DISCUSSING IT WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON
14:04:24 MARCH 25.
14:04:28 SO WE WANTED YOU ALL TO BE UP TO SPEED ON WHAT THE
14:04:31 PLANS ARE, AND I WILL BE WELCOME TO ANSWER ANY
14:04:31 QUESTIONS.
14:04:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION
14:04:38 AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
14:04:43 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEN?
14:04:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL DEFER TO ANYBODY ELSE.
14:04:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO QUESTIONS, BUT STATEMENT.
14:04:51 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE INFORMATION TO US.
14:04:53 I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE BEHIND YOU THAT HELP WITH THAT.
14:04:56 WHAT -- MR. CHAIR, I WILL BE VERY QUICK.
14:04:58 WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
14:05:01 AND SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY.
14:05:05 SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE OUT IN SUBURBIA.
14:05:06 I GET THAT.
14:05:10 AND WE ALL GET THAT; HOWEVER, THERE IS A CAUSE AND
14:05:10 EFFECT.
14:05:13 TRANSPORTATION IS OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE AND I MENTIONED
14:05:15 THAT TODAY FROM THE FDOT.
14:05:19 YOU WANT TO LIVE OUT IN SUBURBIA, THAT IS FINE, LIKELY
14:05:22 TO GO TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO WORK.
14:05:24 TRANSPORTATION HAS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE FOCUS AND THE
14:05:29 MAYOR REPEATED IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN IF FDOT IS
14:05:32 LISTENING, LET'S WIPE EVERYTHING OFF THE TABLE WE HAVE
14:05:34 NOW AND START WORKING ON TRANSPORTATION.
14:05:35 THANK YOU.
14:05:37 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
14:05:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:05:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU AND THE PLANNING
14:05:46 COMMISSION FOR, AND YOUR TEAM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
14:05:48 THE DOCUMENT -- IS THAT A DOCUMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING
14:05:50 TO PROVIDE FOR US?
14:05:53 HOW DOES THAT WORK?
14:05:55 >> WE HANDED OUT THE COPIES OF THE PRESENTATION LAST
14:05:55 WEEK.
14:05:57 SO I APOLOGIZE.
14:05:59 YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE ROOM AND NOT HAVE GOT
14:06:00 ONE.
14:06:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS FINE.
14:06:02 I --
14:06:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE TWO EXTRA COPIES HERE.
14:06:06 >> HOW HANDY.
14:06:10 WE WILL MAKE SURE THIS GETS RECIRCULATED TO ANYBODY.
14:06:12 SO YOU CAN HOLD ON TO THAT.
14:06:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
14:06:17 ONE, WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY WILL LIKELY TAKE THIS SHARE
14:06:20 OF THE POPULATION AND THE COUNTY WILL LIKELY TAKE THIS
14:06:22 SHARE.
14:06:26 IS THAT -- WHAT KIND OF PRESUMPTION IS THAT BASED UPON.
14:06:35 BASED UPON CURRENT TRENDS AND I HAVE GOT FOLLOW-ON
14:06:35 QUESTIONS.
14:06:36 >> SURE.
14:06:40 MOST IS WHAT IS ADOPTED IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
14:06:43 THE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE FUTURE
14:06:45 LAND USE MAP IS THE BASIS FOR MOST OF IT.
14:06:49 THE PRIMARY ASSUMPTION IS THE TRANSIT ORIENTED
14:06:50 DEVELOPMENT.
14:06:54 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OUTLINES A DENSITY BONUS.
14:06:59 A TRANSIT STATION ALONG A FIXED SKYWAY TRANSIT LINE AND
14:07:03 MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN THE RED AREA THAT THE DENSITY
14:07:07 MIGHT BUMP UP IN THOSE AREAS BEYOND WHAT WAS IN THE
14:07:09 FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
14:07:12 MOST OF IT IS BASED ON WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN YOUR PLAN
14:07:15 TODAY.
14:07:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE TRANSITS ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT,
14:07:22 T.O.D., WHAT YOU CALL IT, ZONES.
14:07:23 >> STATION AREAS.
14:07:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY UNDERSTANDING A WORK IN PROGRESS
14:07:28 RIGHT NOW?
14:07:28 >> IT IS.
14:07:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BY WHOM?
14:07:34 >> WELL, DECISION THAT'S NEED TO BE MADE ABOUT WHERE
14:07:38 THE FIXED TRANSIT LINES ARE GOING TO GO AND THOSE
14:07:41 DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY HART.
14:07:44 WE ARE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY AND HART
14:07:49 FROM A GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION TO
14:07:55 DO SOME STATIONARY PLANNING AROUND THE ALIGNMENT THAT
14:08:00 IS CHOSEN FOR THE STREET CAR EXTENSION AND THE HART
14:08:06 VOTE GOING UP FLORIDA, NEBRASKA AND NOW FOWLER AND
14:08:09 BEGIN TO APPLY MUCH WHAT IS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
14:08:11 FOR CLOSE TO TEN YEARS NOW.
14:08:14 WE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR TRANSIT
14:08:17 ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE T PART
14:08:18 OF THE TOD.
14:08:22 WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY START TO TALK IN REAL TERMS
14:08:22 ABOUT THAT.
14:08:33 >> YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS A DAY OR TWO.
14:08:36 A LOT OF TIMES BRING US PROJECTS, US BEING CITY COUNCIL
14:08:46 FOR REZONING AND THEY ARE SORT OF LEADING THE WAY.
14:08:51 THEY ARE SAYING, WE THINK IT IS GREAT -- LET'S PUT 300
14:08:55 UNITS DOWN IN A CERTAIN PART OF TOWN AND WON'T GO INTO
14:08:57 ANY DETAIL.
14:09:01 AND YOU KNOW, AND YET, THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS MAY BE
14:09:06 WELL OFF COURSE IN TERMS OF THE TOD AND WHERE ANY --
14:09:10 ANY REAL LIKELIHOOD OF ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE,
14:09:14 AND THE CITY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
14:09:18 MIGHT ALLOW THAT AND MANY CASES THE CITY APPROVES IT
14:09:20 AND THOSE GET BUILT.
14:09:24 WE HAVE MANY OF THOSE ALONG -- ALONG WESTSHORE WHICH IS
14:09:29 A TWO-LANE ROAD AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING TALKING TO JEAN
14:09:33 DUNCAN, NO IDEA TO EXPAND IT BEYOND TWO YEARS EVEN
14:09:37 THOUGH WE APPROVED AND VARIOUS COUNCILS ALONG THE YEAR
14:09:41 HAVE APPROVED THOUSANDS OF UNITS ALONG WESTSHORE.
14:09:42 AND THAT IS AN EXAMPLE.
14:09:47 INSTEAD OF BEING PROACTIVE AS A CITY WE ALWAYS IN MY
14:09:50 LIFETIME CAN BE REACTIVE.
14:09:52 I THINK IT IS GREAT WE ARE HAVING THIS TYPE OF
14:09:53 CONVERSATION.
14:09:54 I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS
14:09:57 CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY.
14:10:01 IN RECORD TO LET'S ALL BE MORE PROACTIVE AND BASICALLY
14:10:06 TELL THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WE ARE NOT TELLING THEM
14:10:07 WE DON'T WANT GROWTH.
14:10:09 WE KNOW THAT GROWTH IS COMING.
14:10:12 GROWTH IS COMING IN MASSIVE TENS OF THOUSAND OF NUMBERS
14:10:16 OVER THE X NUMBER OF YEARS.
14:10:19 WE ARE NOT TELLING THEM WE DON'T WANT THEM TO COME OR
14:10:22 BUILD TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND LET'S PUT MORE PROACTIVE
14:10:24 IN TERMS OF WHERE THOSE BEST PLACES ARE.
14:10:28 AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ALLUDING TO, MELISSA,
14:10:32 IS THAT WHERE ARE THOSE PLACE I WOULD ASSERT BETWEEN
14:10:34 HERE AND THE AIRPORT, OKAY.
14:10:37 TO ME, THAT IS THE FUTURE DOWNTOWN.
14:10:40 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND I THINK I SAID THAT -- 20 YEARS
14:10:44 AGO WHEN FLY OUT OF THE AIRPORT AND THEY SAY, WHERE IS
14:10:44 DOWNTOWN.
14:10:47 AND I THINK DOWNTOWN WILL BE THIS ONE MASSIVE CORRIDOR
14:10:51 BETWEEN WHERE WE SIT RIGHT HERE AND THE AIRPORT.
14:10:55 AND WHETHER OR NOT IT IS ALONG CYPRESS OR KENNEDY OR
14:11:01 THE -- OR THE INTERSTATE OR EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, I
14:11:02 THINK THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
14:11:04 THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN ATLANTA.
14:11:07 ATLANTA HAS STARTED AS A DOWNTOWN AND MOVE NORTH AND
14:11:10 BUCKHEAD AND CREEPED UP, AND PRETTY SOON.
14:11:15 THEY SORT OF HAVE THIS ELONGATED DOWNTOWN TO THE BEST
14:11:17 OF MY RECOLLECTION.
14:11:20 WITH THAT ALSO HAVE TRANSIT TO GO WITH IT.
14:11:23 AND SO YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.
14:11:25 THE UNIVERSITY AREA HAS GREAT POTENTIAL.
14:11:27 THERE IS A LOT OF LAND OUT THERE.
14:11:29 A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT OUT THERE.
14:11:34 NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO SPEAK OF, NOT
14:11:41 NEARLY WHAT THERE COULD BE, BUT ONCE AGAIN, LET'S DO A
14:11:47 BETTER JOB AND, CAROL, I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE
14:11:48 JOINING US TODAY.
14:11:51 LET'S DO A BETTER JOB OF BEING PROACTIVE, YOU KNOW.
14:11:53 AND FLORIDA HAS NEVER BEEN GOOD AT THAT.
14:11:58 FLORIDA HAS ALWAYS BEEN REACTIVE AND RESPONSIVE AND
14:12:00 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH SPRAWL.
14:12:03 I THINK THAT IS WHY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AT LEAST
14:12:06 THREE OR FOUR HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT.
14:12:10 AND MY LAST POINT IS, I THINK WE CAN HELP THE COUNTY.
14:12:13 I THINK WE CAN HELP THE COUNTY REDUCE THEIR SPRAWL,
14:12:16 BECAUSE -- AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE
14:12:20 WHAT I HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE THEY ALREADY THINK TAMPA IS
14:12:21 STILL CROWDED.
14:12:23 BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THAT DENSITY AND SOME
14:12:26 OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING DOWN HERE AND SAY, YOU
14:12:29 KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE GOT GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO COME DOWN
14:12:33 HERE AND LIVE IN THESE HIGH-RISES, LIVE IN THESE
14:12:37 MID-RISES, AND BE A BLOCK OR TWO FROM THE TRAIN STATION
14:12:44 OR THE BUS STATION OR THE BRT OR WHAT HAVE YOU IN THESE
14:12:48 GREAT URBAN AREAS AND YOU DON'T TO HAVE THAT SINGLE
14:12:51 FAMILY HOUSE IN SPRAWL LAND.
14:12:55 AND I THINK, JOE, AS YOU SAID, I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE
14:12:59 WILL SAY, HEY, THAT IS MY CHOICE, BUT I LIKE THAT
14:12:59 CHOICE.
14:13:00 YOU KNOW.
14:13:03 AND IT IS SORT OF A WIN-WIN.
14:13:06 WE CAN DEVELOP AND ENCOURAGE AND BOOST OUR TRANSIT
14:13:10 SYSTEM AND AT THE SAME TIME, STILL HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE
14:13:12 OUT ON THE EDGES OF THE COUNTY.
14:13:16 BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO LOSE IT AND LOOK JUST
14:13:19 LIKE PINELLAS COUNTY BECAUSE PINELLAS AS WE ALL KNOW IS
14:13:20 BUILT OUT WALL TO WALL.
14:13:21 THANK YOU.
14:13:23 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:13:25 >> GO AHEAD, SIR.
14:13:32 >> GOOD POINTS BY MR. CITRO AND MR. DINGFELDER, BUT THE
14:13:35 PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS, WE DON'T COMMUNICATE WITH.
14:13:39 THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS, IF YOU HAVE TEAM A, B, C AND
14:13:44 D, AND THEY NEVER MEET COLLECTIVELY, YOU NEVER GET A
14:13:45 PLAN.
14:13:50 IT IS ALWAYS B'S PLAN OR A'S PLAN.
14:13:53 NEVER THE WHOLE TEAM'S PLAN OR CONFERENCE PLAN.
14:13:57 I ALWAYS USE THE ANALYSIS WHEN I COACH AND RUN
14:14:02 CONFERENCES FROM GEORGIA, ALABAMA, TENNESSEE, FLORIDA.
14:14:05 YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR, I WOULD HAVE WHAT I HAVE AN
14:14:10 ANNUAL MEETING SO I CAN HEAR FROM ANYBODY IN THE WHOLE
14:14:13 REGION TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY MAKING THE PLAN.
14:14:15 VERSUS I AM GOING TO GEORGIA AND GEORGIA IS WANTING TO
14:14:17 DO THIS.
14:14:20 IT IS REALLY AFFECTING FLORIDA AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM
14:14:21 WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY.
14:14:22 WE DON'T COMMUNICATE.
14:14:25 EVERYTHING IS SEPARATED AND HAVE THEIR TERRITORIAL
14:14:26 THING.
14:14:29 THE SAME THING FOR FDOT THIS MORNING.
14:14:32 WE SERVE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND ALL THE CITIZENS.
14:14:33 ALL THE RESIDENTS.
14:14:34 EVERYBODY GO HERE.
14:14:37 I GO OUT TO THE COUNTY TO DO THINGS.
14:14:38 PEOPLE COME IN TOWN.
14:14:42 WE HAVE MEETINGS THAT EVERYONE IS AT THE TABLE.
14:14:46 COUNTY COMMISSION, TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY AND US
14:14:47 MAKING THE PLAN.
14:14:49 AND THAT IS THE MESSAGE I WANT TO SEND TO PEOPLE.
14:14:54 WE HAVE TO START BEING TOGETHER AS ONE VOICE, ONE SOUND
14:14:58 THAT WILL HELP EVERY CORNERSTONE OF HILLSBOROUGH
14:14:58 COUNTY.
14:15:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:15:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I JUST NEED TO SHOUT OUT TO
14:15:05 THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
14:15:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VOTE ON RAISING SOME FEES
14:15:11 FOR SCHOOLS.
14:15:14 BUT NOW WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE SCHOOL IS
14:15:16 GOING TO GO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
14:15:18 THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE BUILT OUT.
14:15:21 THERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE NEEDING A NEW HIGH SCHOOL
14:15:23 SOME TIME SOON.
14:15:28 I KNOW CHIARAMONTE WAS THE LAST SCHOOL BUILT IN SOUTH
14:15:29 TAMPA.
14:15:31 LET'S THINK OF WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO.
14:15:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER FOLLOW-UP TO MR. GUDES'
14:15:39 VERY, VERY EXCELLENT COMMENT OF COMMUNICATING BETWEEN
14:15:40 TWO JURISDICTIONS.
14:15:43 THIS MEETING THAT COMMISSIONER MILLER HAS ORGANIZED AND
14:15:48 INVITED US TO IS ALMOST WITHOUT PRECEDENT OF THE CITY
14:15:51 ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AND TALKING LONG-RANGE
14:15:52 PLANNING.
14:15:52 I THINK IT IS GREAT.
14:15:55 I HOPE IT IS THE FIRST OF MANY.
14:15:57 AND THE OTHER THING -- I WAS WONDERING THIS THE OTHER
14:16:06 DAY MELISSA IN TERMS OF STATE STATUTE KNEW WHICH ARE
14:16:08 INTERCONNECTED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND IF
14:16:12 THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT TEMPLE TERRACE AND PLANT CITY.
14:16:16 IS IT POSSIBLE TO ULTIMATELY COMBINE ALL OF THOSE PLANS
14:16:22 INTO ONE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
14:16:25 WILL STATE STATUTE ALLOW IT.
14:16:27 THERE IS A PRECEDENT.
14:16:30 AND I AM PUTTING NEW THE SPOT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T TALKED
14:16:31 ABOUT IT.
14:16:35 AGAIN, THE ULTIMATE COMMUNICATOR BECAUSE -- AND I KNOW
14:16:37 DEVELOPER ALSO ACTUALLY LIKE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE
14:16:39 BOOK TO GO TO.
14:16:42 IN TERMS OF WHAT IT THE LONG-RANGE PLAN AND DESIRE OF
14:16:45 THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
14:16:48 YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW, THAT IF YOU ASK TEN PEOPLE OUT
14:16:53 ON THE STREET WHERE THE CITY LINE IS, NINE OF THEM
14:16:54 AREN'T GOING TO KNOW.
14:16:58 AND FRANKLY BRAD BAIRD SERVES WATER TO -- AN EXTRA
14:17:01 THIRD OF THE COUNTY.
14:17:05 >> YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT TODAY'S STATE STATUTE REQUIRES
14:17:10 EACH JURISDICTION -- ANDREA CAN HELP ME IF I AM WRONG,
14:17:15 FOR EACH JURISDICTION TO ADOPT THEIR OWN COMPREHENSIVE
14:17:16 PLAN.
14:17:17 CERTAIN CAN BE COMMON.
14:17:23 YOU HAVE IDENTICAL SCHOOL FACILITY ELEMENTS OF THE
14:17:24 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
14:17:27 GIVEN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SERVES ALL FOUR
14:17:29 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WE LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO
14:17:32 HAVE GREATER CONSISTENCY AMONG THE PLAN.
14:17:35 WE RECENTLY DID A STUDY OF FOWLER AVENUE WITH THE
14:17:38 RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BEGIN TO -- IN THAT QUARTER HAVE
14:17:41 THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORY THAN THE NORTH AND SOUTH
14:17:44 SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR AND BRIDGE THE COUNTY AND THE
14:17:45 CITY.
14:17:49 THOSE ARE THE SAMPLE -- EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE CAN DO MORE
14:17:52 OF CERTAINLY.
14:17:52 >> ANYONE ELSE.
14:17:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
14:17:56 I APPRECIATE IT.
14:17:59 I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
14:17:59 RELEVANT.
14:18:00 NEW TAMPA.
14:18:08 1989 AND 1990, TODAY ABOUT 55,000 TO 60,000 PEOPLE THAT
14:18:09 IS OUT THERE.
14:18:12 A GREAT EXAMPLE OF JUST POPULATION EXPLOSION.
14:18:14 LOOK AT COUNTY LINE ROAD.
14:18:17 A LOOK WHAT IS DEALT WITH BY PASCO COUNTY.
14:18:21 AND THE FOLKS OUT THERE -- YOU KNOW A CONSTANT CRISIS
14:18:22 FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE.
14:18:25 A VERY RELEVANT CONVERSATION FOR ALL OF THE
14:18:26 COMMUNITIES.
14:18:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:18:30 THANK YOU.
14:18:33 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE -- COUNCILMEMBERS I NEED TO
14:18:37 LEAVE HERE AT ABOUT 2:35.
14:18:40 I WAS A HOME APPRAISAL I HAVE TO BE THERE AND OPEN THE
14:18:40 DOOR FOR SOMEBODY.
14:18:43 SO I -- BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH MOST OF
14:18:44 IT.
14:18:49 BUT I SEE HERE, WE HAVE NEXT ITEM 70, I BELIEVE IS
14:18:50 NEXT.
14:18:53 ITEM 70.
14:18:57 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY
14:18:58 ADMINISTRATOR.
14:19:04 ITEM 70 IS ABOUT THE CYPRESS CREEK OUTFALL REGIONAL
14:19:08 IMPROVEMENT AND THE IMPACT ON BUSINESSES ON CASS
14:19:09 STREET.
14:19:13 AND I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SHOWING A PROJECT MAP ON
14:19:17 THE OVERHEAD IF I COULD.
14:19:26 SO THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF LARGE BOX CULVERTS AND
14:19:31 PERTINENTS AND A LARGE WATER LINE EXTENSION AND A LOT
14:19:34 OF RELOCATION OF UTILITIES STARTING FROM NORTH
14:19:37 BOULEVARD ON CASS STREET ALL THE WAY TO ROME.
14:19:42 AND THEN SOUTH ON ROME TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
14:19:51 AND THEN ON GRAY STREET ALL THE WAY OVER TO JUST PAST
14:19:53 TAMPANIA.
14:19:57 I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SCALE OF THIS
14:20:04 PROJECT AND HOW LARGE IT IS IN THE WEST TAMPA AREA.
14:20:09 SO THE -- THE OVERALL BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT TO REDUCE
14:20:12 FLOODING OBVIOUSLY IN A RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
14:20:17 AREAS OF.
14:20:21 I AM NOT GOING TO USE THE OVERHEAD AGAIN, SO IF WE
14:20:26 COULD -- THE -- CONSISTING OF THOSE STREETS THAT I JUST
14:20:30 WENT THROUGH AND THE SURROUNDING AREA -- AREAS, THE
14:20:30 NEIGHBORHOODS THERE.
14:20:35 WE WILL ALSO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, IMPROVED
14:20:39 MOBILITY, MAKE MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
14:20:42 UPGRADE SIGNALIZATION AND IN THE TRANSPORTATION AREA
14:20:46 AND FINALLY REDUCE POLLUTANT LOADING ON THE
14:20:48 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND HILLSBOROUGH BAY.
14:20:52 WE HAVE GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.
14:20:57 IT'S A DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT AWARDED TO WOODRUFF AND
14:21:00 SONS AT 35.6 MILLION.
14:21:04 VALERIAN GROUP IS THE SUB CONSULTANT BROUGHT ON IT TO
14:21:06 PERFORM PUBLIC RELATIONS.
14:21:09 REAL QUICKLY JUST THREE POINTS ON THE TIMELINE.
14:21:14 THE NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS GIVEN JULY 24 OF LAST YEAR,
14:21:15 2019.
14:21:20 AND THEN -- WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, THE CASS
14:21:26 STREET CLOSURE FROM WILLOW TO ROME WILL LAST THROUGH
14:21:32 ABOUT JULY 1 AND THAT INCLUDES TWO WEEKS OF CONTINGENCY
14:21:36 OF IMPLEMENT WEATHER AND UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS.
14:21:40 AND FINAL LET ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE IS NOVEMBER
14:21:43 2021.
14:21:48 THIS IS A RATHER LARGE UNDERTAKING.
14:21:52 AND LET ME GET TO THE CYPRESS CREEK OUTFALL PUBLIC
14:21:54 ENGAGEMENT ITEMS.
14:21:58 FIRST WE STARTED OUT IN 2018 WITH MAIL-OUT TO PROPERTY
14:22:01 OWNERS, RESIDENCES, BUSINESSES.
14:22:06 WE PROVIDED A NOTICE OF A OPEN PUBLIC MEETING ON THE
14:22:08 PROJECT WEB SITE.
14:22:15 HELD A OPEN HOUSE ON DECEMBER 4 OF 2018.
14:22:17 AND INCLUDED DESIGN BOARDS FOR ALL THREE OF THE PROJECT
14:22:18 SEGMENTS.
14:22:24 WE SAW EARLIER ON THE MAP.
14:22:26 WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD PARTICIPATION IN THAT.
14:22:30 I PERSONALLY WENT TO THAT OPEN HOUSE.
14:22:34 THEY -- PARTICIPANTS WERE INVITED TO SUBMIT COMMENT
14:22:38 CARDS ON THEIR INPUT AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS
14:22:39 PART OF THE PROJECT.
14:22:43 WE FOLLOW THAT WITH A WEST TAMPA CRA MEETING WHERE WE
14:22:48 DID A PRESENTATION, Q & A WITH THE WEST TAMPA CRA
14:22:50 ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
14:22:55 AND THEN WE HAD DOOR HANGER NOTIFICATIONS.
14:22:57 ALL BEFORE CONSTRUCTION.
14:23:01 AND WHAT THE PLAN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WERE, THE
14:23:04 CITY SUGGESTED DETOUR ROUTE AND OF COURSE THE ALL THE
14:23:08 CONTACT INFORMATION INCLUDING A 24-HOUR HOTLINE, WEB
14:23:13 SITE, LINKED TO A MOBILE APP THAT WE CREATED AND
14:23:14 PROJECT E-MAIL.
14:23:20 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ONE ON ONE OUTREACH, WHERE WE
14:23:23 WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND THIS IS BEFORE -- BEFORE
14:23:27 CONSTRUCTION OUTREACH TO ALL THE PROPERTY AND BUSINESS
14:23:29 OWNERS ALONG THE PROJECT CORRIDOR.
14:23:36 AND THEN WE HAVE PRESS RELEASES AND -- FINISH IN THREE
14:23:37 MINUTES TODAY.
14:23:40 PRESS LEASES AND TRAFFIC ADVISORIES.
14:23:44 AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS
14:23:49 -- HAS BEEN FAIRLY EXTENSIVE, PROVIDED SPECIFIC SIGNS
14:23:51 FOR THE IMPACT OF BUSINESSES.
14:23:55 WHERE WE LISTED THE BUSINESS'S NAME ON THOSE SIGNS.
14:24:00 WE PLACED THEM TO KEY POINTS ALONG THE DETOUR ROUTES TO
14:24:02 NOTIFY DRIVERS THAT THE BUSINESSES ARE OPEN AND
14:24:05 ACCESSIBLE.
14:24:07 WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE BUSINESSES TO MAINTAIN
14:24:11 ACCESS TO SCHEDULED DELIVERIES AND FOR THEIR PATRONS.
14:24:15 WE CONTINUE THEIR ONE ON ONE MEETINGS.
14:24:17 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS OUT THERE YESTERDAY ON A
14:24:23 JOBSITE, AND VALERIAN HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVES GOING
14:24:25 DOOR TO DOOR TALKING TO THE BUSINESSES.
14:24:28 CAN WE -- WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER.
14:24:29 WHAT CAN WE DO HERE.
14:24:34 SO ALL THOSE IMPACTED BUSINESSES, AND IN PARTICULAR, ON
14:24:38 CASS STREET, WE HAVE FIVE THAT ARE MIDBLOCK, THAT DON'T
14:24:41 HAVE ACCESS ON A NORTH-SOUTH STREET.
14:24:46 SO THOSE FIVE ARE THE MOST IMPACTED.
14:24:53 AND THAT INCLUDES RESTAURANT ON THE NORTH SIDE AND A
14:24:58 SIXTH RESTAURANT ON THE SOUTH SIDE CALLED NOHO JUNCTION
14:25:02 AND THEY DO HAVE ACCESS WITH THE NORTH-SOUTH STREET.
14:25:05 AND THEN WE CONTINUE PRESS RELEASES AND TRAFFIC
14:25:12 ADVISORIES AND ALERTS ARE POSTED ON THE PROJECT'S WEB
14:25:15 SITE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
14:25:17 WITH THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
14:25:21 ON -- ON THE IMPACT HERE, I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
14:25:26 >> COUNCILMAN CITRO.
14:25:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FRED, YOU ARE A MESSENGER AND I
14:25:29 UNDERSTAND THAT.
14:25:32 CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR BUSINESSES FOR BEING IN OPERATION
14:25:35 FOR FIVE YEARS.
14:25:39 CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT CRITERIA THAT MAY BE ABLE TO
14:25:41 RECEIVE COMPENSATION.
14:25:43 WAS THERE ANY COMPENSATION.
14:25:46 ANY THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GREATLY EFFECTED THAT
14:25:52 HAVE NOT BEEN IN BUSINESS THOSE FIVE YEARS?
14:25:55 >> FOR DATE ONLY ONE CLAIM THROUGH THE RISK MANAGEMENT
14:25:59 DIVISION AND THAT CLAIM HAS NOT BEEN DENIED.
14:26:02 THAT BUSINESS HAS NOT BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR FIVE YEARS
14:26:06 AND JUST RECENTLY OPENED WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT.
14:26:11 >> RECENTLY OPEN OR SOLD -- SOLD TO A NEW BUSINESS
14:26:11 OWNER.
14:26:14 >> NO, IT WAS JUST RECENTLY OPENED AND JUST RECENTLY
14:26:16 CHANGED BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL.
14:26:22 THAT WAS THE CASS STREET.
14:26:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THERE ANY USE OF ALLEYWAY THAT'S
14:26:28 COULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES OUT TO
14:26:31 GET CLIENTS TO AND FROM?
14:26:33 AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE USE
14:26:35 OF ALLEYS.
14:26:38 WAS THERE -- WAS THERE ANY WAY OF MAYBE PUTTING THE
14:26:41 DETOUR SIGNS IN THERE.
14:26:43 ONE-WAY DETOURS.
14:26:47 AND THESE BUSINESSES COULD GET THEIR SUPPLIES.
14:26:49 >> SO THAT IS AN EXTREMELY GOOD QUESTION.
14:26:52 BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE OUT THERE YESTERDAY
14:26:53 TO DETERMINE.
14:26:57 THERE IS AN ALLEY THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH ON EITHER
14:27:01 END ONTO A NORTH SIDE OF CASS STREET BEHIND THOSE FIVE
14:27:06 BUSINESSES, BUT IT DOES HAVE NORTH-SOUTH ACCESS TO THE
14:27:06 ALLEY.
14:27:09 IT HAVEN'T BEEN USED IN A LONG TIME.
14:27:15 SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS LOOKING INTO PUTTING ROCK DOWN
14:27:21 ON THAT ALLEY THAT USED TO BE USED BY THE WAY FOR THOSE
14:27:22 FIVE BUSINESSES.
14:27:25 AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS NO REASON WE CAN'T USE THAT
14:27:28 ALLEY TO ACCESS TO THE BACK WHICH WILL PROVIDE HUGE
14:27:32 AMOUNT OF RELIEF TO THOSE FIVE BUSINESSES.
14:27:37 WE ARE ALSO TALKING TO ONE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT IS
14:27:37 OPEN.
14:27:40 JUST RECEIVED THEIR PERMIT TO REMODEL A BUILDING, TO
14:27:44 TURN IT INTO A PIZZA PLACE.
14:27:47 AND THEY -- THEY HAVE AN OPEN LOT THAT THEY ARE GOING
14:27:49 TO USE IN THE FUTURE FOR THEIR PARKING LOT.
14:27:52 SO WE ARE TALKING TO THAT OWNER ABOUT POSSIBLY USING
14:27:54 THAT LOT FOR THOSE FIVE BUSINESSES.
14:27:59 IF WE CAN DO THAT, IT WILL MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE
14:28:03 FOR THESE FIVE BUSINESSES, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID EARLIER,
14:28:07 THIS COULD BE CLOSED ALL THE WAY THROUGH JULY 1.
14:28:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A TOUGH HIT ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN
14:28:10 THAT AREA.
14:28:13 SEEING HOW THERE WAS ONLY ONE THAT DID NOT FIT THE
14:28:18 CRITERIA, ANY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHICH THE CITY
14:28:20 OF TAMPA HELPED THAT BUILDING?
14:28:23 >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
14:28:25 OH, I AM SORRY --
14:28:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION.
14:28:30 CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THAT ONE BUSINESS?
14:28:31 >> ONE BUSINESS?
14:28:33 NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
14:28:35 A BETTER QUESTION FOR RISK MANAGEMENT.
14:28:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CERTAIN SIGNAGE FOR THE ALLEYWAY
14:28:42 SAYING THE BUILDING IS THIS WAY?
14:28:43 >> ABSOLUTELY.
14:28:45 WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE ALLEY AND ALSO TODAY WE ARE
14:28:51 PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL -- VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS TO
14:28:56 PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DIRECTION TO THE BUSINESS -- FOR THE
14:28:57 BUSINESSES.
14:29:00 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
14:29:02 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:29:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
14:29:07 THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS IF YOU ARE JUST NOW GOING OUT
14:29:10 THERE TO ASSESS THE SITUATION, THEN SHAME ON US.
14:29:12 AND THE REASON I SAY THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING A
14:29:15 BUNCH OF CALLS IN REFERENCE TO THIS.
14:29:18 SO IF WE ARE GETTING A BUNCH OF CALLS AND THERE IS SOME
14:29:21 FIRM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ADVOCATING FOR THE
14:29:25 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A CONTRACT, AND I AM GETTING CALLS
14:29:28 FROM THESE BUSINESSES SAYING, WHAT'S GOING ON?
14:29:30 WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME?
14:29:32 WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE WORK?
14:29:36 THEN SOMEBODY DROPPING THE BALL SOMEWHERE.
14:29:40 >> COUNCILMAN, WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE 2018.
14:29:43 WE ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY.
14:29:47 AND WE HAVE BEEN GOING DOOR TO DOOR SINCE 2018.
14:29:50 WE HAVE A GREAT PRESENCE OUT THERE.
14:29:53 THIS SITUATION OF THE FIVE BUSINESSES THAT I KEEP
14:29:58 REFERRING TO HAS JUST -- WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING TO THE
14:30:01 POINT IN THE PROJECT, UNTIL THEN, WE HAVE BEEN EAST OF
14:30:02 WILLOW STREET.
14:30:05 SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
14:30:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DON'T
14:30:10 WANT THE RESIDENTS -- BEING A BUSINESS OWNER,
14:30:13 ESPECIALLY A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IS TOUGH AT TIMES.
14:30:17 AND IF YOU DON'T -- YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT AND YOU
14:30:19 HAVE GOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON THAT IS IMPACTING
14:30:24 THE BUSINESS, IT'S -- IT IS REALLY HARD.
14:30:27 I KNOW MY FAMILY OWNS A BUSINESS AND I KNOW AT TIMES.
14:30:30 IF SOMETHING IS SLOW AND CERTAIN THINGS HAPPEN.
14:30:33 I CAN IMAGINE THE BUSINESS OWNERS ON CASS.
14:30:35 YOU SAID ONE WAS DENIED.
14:30:39 AND WE NEED TO TALK TO RISK MANAGEMENT, BUT I THINK --
14:30:47 YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE REACTIVE.
14:30:51 INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE LIKE MR. DINGFELDER SAID EARLIER
14:30:52 ABOUT OTHER SITUATIONS.
14:30:55 IF WE HAVE BUSINESSES AND WE ARE DOING A PROJECT, WE
14:30:59 SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT MAY BE CAUSED TO THOSE
14:31:02 BUSINESSES AND HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AND NOT JUST SAY,
14:31:04 WE ARE GOING TO DENY PEOPLE.
14:31:08 A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST DENY PEOPLE JUST TO DENY, BUT
14:31:10 WHAT IS THE OTHER PLAN TO DENY.
14:31:12 I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
14:31:16 IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THAT IS LOSING MONEY BECAUSE WE
14:31:18 ARE DOING A NECESSARY PROJECT.
14:31:20 GOT TO BE SOMETHING IN THE PROJECT THAT WILL COMPENSATE
14:31:23 SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEY WILL SHUT
14:31:26 DOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN.
14:31:30 SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
14:31:32 AND MAKING SURE -- BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT
14:31:35 OF PROJECTS ON BOARD ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
14:31:38 IT MAY IMPACT A MOM AND POP PLACE.
14:31:42 AND -- YOU KNOW, THOSE MOM AND POP PLACES, THEY GO WEEK
14:31:43 TO WEEK SOMETIMES.
14:31:48 AND IF THEY ARE NOT MAKING THE REVENUE TO PAY THOSE
14:31:52 PEOPLE AND THE WORK FORCE, IT IS VERY, VERY DETRIMENTAL
14:31:54 TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
14:31:56 I -- WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
14:32:01 I ASK THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE
14:32:04 CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE SO IT WON'T IMPACT THE
14:32:05 LITTLE GUY.
14:32:09 THAT WILL BE WHO GETS HURT, THE LITTLE GUY.
14:32:12 >> I WANT TO POINT OUT WE ARE EXTREMELY PROACTIVE IN
14:32:15 THAT REGARD AND THESE BUSINESSES HAVE ACCESS TO THIS
14:32:17 DAY TO THE PRIME.
14:32:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
14:32:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:32:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO QUESTIONS AND I AM NOT ASKING
14:32:24 YOU TO PLAY THE LAWYER, BRAD.
14:32:27 TO THE BEST OF YOUR RECOLLECTION.
14:32:35 IS THERE AN APPEALS PROCESS FOR -- FOR A BUSINESS?
14:32:37 YOU I DON'T WANT TO CALL HIM BY NAME.
14:32:39 THE BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN DENIED.
14:32:42 DOES THAT COME TO MIND OF THE ZONINGS AND STUFF, DO YOU
14:32:43 KNOW?
14:32:46 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS.
14:32:51 I AM GOING TO DEFER --
14:32:54 >> SEEMS LIKE EVERY GOVERNMENT DECISION HAS TO HAVE
14:32:58 SOME -- SOME RIGHT OF APPEAL TO GO SOMEWHERE.
14:33:00 >> ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
14:33:04 I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT
14:33:06 THAT FOR YOU.
14:33:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEND US A MEMO AND LET US KNOW.
14:33:11 AND CLEARLY, IF THERE IS A RIGHT OF APPEAL, AND
14:33:15 OBVIOUSLY THAT BUSINESS NEEDS TO KNOW ALSO IF IT IS
14:33:17 TIMELY.
14:33:20 MY OTHER QUESTION, BRAD, IS -- YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE
14:33:25 LEG THAT IS GOING TO GO UNDER HOWARD AND ARMENIA.
14:33:41 >> WHY DON'T WE PUT THE MAP BACK UP.
14:33:45 >> YES, WE WILL CROSS BOTH HOWARD AND ARMENIA, AND
14:33:51 THIS IS NOT A JACK AND -- THIS IS CROSSING -- THIS IS
14:33:52 AN OPEN CUT.
14:33:57 THESE ARE DOUBLE EIGHT-FOOT BY EIGHT-FOOT BOXES THAT
14:33:59 YOU CAN PRACTICALLY LIVE IN.
14:34:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU READ MY MINE.
14:34:03 HOPING THEY WERE JACK AND BOARD AND I UNDERSTAND THEY
14:34:04 ARE HUGE.
14:34:08 TWO BIG THE JACK AND BOARD AT LEAST ECONOMICALLY.
14:34:12 SO IF YOU WERE OPEN CUTTING.
14:34:13 WHAT DO YOU DO?
14:34:16 A LANE AT A TIME SO YOU DON'T DISRUPT TRAFFIC
14:34:17 ABNORMALLY?
14:34:20 BECAUSE IT SCARES THE HECK OUT OF ME THAT -- IF YOU
14:34:23 CLOSE ONE MORE THAN ONE LANE AT A TIME ON HOWARD AND
14:34:25 ARMENIA.
14:34:27 IT WILL BACK UP THE WHOLE WORLD.
14:34:31 >> THESE BOXES ARE SO LARGE IT WILL SHUT DOWN THE
14:34:37 INTERSECTION AND TRY TO MINIMIZE THE LENGTH OF TIME.
14:34:39 >> FOR HOW LONG --
14:34:41 >> I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON HOW LONG
14:34:46 THAT WILL BE.
14:34:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EIGHT FEET?
14:34:50 >> EIGHT FEET BY EIGHT FEET AND TWO OF THEM.
14:34:54 NOT TO MENTION THERE IS A 36-INCH WATER LINE AS WELL
14:34:55 NEXT TO IT.
14:34:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MASSIVE STORMWATER PIPES.
14:34:59 WOW, THAT KIND OF --
14:35:00 >> BIG.
14:35:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT JUST BIG, BUT ALSO THAT TRAFFIC
14:35:04 IMPACT.
14:35:07 I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE GOING TO REROUTE THEM AROUND
14:35:12 THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALL THAT MILITARY TRAFFIC THAT
14:35:14 RUNS UP A AND DOWN THERE AND THROUGH EVERYTHING ELSE.
14:35:17 >> THEY ARE SO BIG, THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, AND THE
14:35:24 SECTIONS ARE -- ARE I BELIEVE 20 FEET EACH.
14:35:28 SO YOU ARE NOT -- JUST TO SET THEM DOWN, YOU CAN'T DO
14:35:30 IT ONE LANE AT A TIME TO CROSS.
14:35:33 IT IS JUST PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
14:35:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO WAY TO GET SMALLER SECTIONS AND
14:35:40 DO LITTLE FIVE-FOOT INCREMENTS.
14:35:43 >> NOT IN CASE YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF
14:35:44 THE FLOODING.
14:35:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN FIVE-FOOT SECTIONS.
14:35:51 >> I WILL LOOK WHETHER WOODRUFF HAVE SPECIAL FABRICATED
14:35:56 SECTIONS GOING ACROSS HOWARD AND ARMENIA.
14:35:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WILL BE GOOD, THANK YOU.
14:36:02 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
14:36:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RISK MANAGEMENT -- HOW MANY HAVE RISK
14:36:07 MANAGEMENT.
14:36:08 >> THE ONE.
14:36:10 >> THAT'S ALL, JUST ONE?
14:36:10 >> CORRECT.
14:36:15 >> HOW MANY DID RISK MANAGEMENT GO TO ASKING IF THEY
14:36:16 NEED COMPENSATION?
14:36:18 >> THEY CAME TO US AND WE SHOWED THEM THE APPLICATION
14:36:21 PROCESS WHICH THEY DID.
14:36:27 THEY DID SUBMIT TOO RISK MANAGEMENT, AND IT WAS DENIED.
14:36:30 AT THIS POINT CLEAT ONES THAT I HAVE BEEN.
14:36:33 THE ONES I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAST.
14:36:39 YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHAT YOUR STANDARD BUSINESS REVENUE IS
14:36:43 AND SHOW WHAT YOUR DROP OFF IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO --
14:36:45 TO THE CONSTRUCTION.
14:36:48 AS YOUR DAMAGES.
14:36:52 AND THAT WAS NOT DEMONSTRATED.
14:36:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IT IS A STATEMENT, BUT ALL
14:37:01 SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE THE -- IT IS PROVEN THAT ALL
14:37:02 SMALL BUSINESSES.
14:37:05 IF YOU DON'T SUCCEED THE FIRST TWO OR THREE YEARS, YOU
14:37:06 ARE NOT GOING TO SUCCEED.
14:37:09 AND WHY THE CRITERIA SAYS FIVE YEARS BEING IN BUSINESS.
14:37:15 APPARENTLY THIS CRITERIA IN MY OPINION NEEDS TO BE
14:37:15 LOOKED INTO.
14:37:19 IF A NEW BUSINESS AND THE CITY COMES IN AND SAYS,
14:37:23 SORRY, WE ARE GOING TO TEAR UP YOUR FRONT DRIVEWAY,
14:37:24 THEY HAVE ALREADY LOST.
14:37:25 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
14:37:29 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE I INTRODUCE COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:37:32 I AM THE ONE THAT HAS TO PICK UP MY SON AND HAVE AN
14:37:36 APPRAISAL I HAVE TO GO TO ON MY HOUSE AND I APOLOGIZE
14:37:39 -- THIS IS VERY UNORTHODOX.
14:37:42 A MOTION FOR -- AND I WILL GIVE YOU THIS --
14:37:45 PRESENTATION BY ROBERT BLOUNT OF ABE BROWN MINISTRIES OF THE
14:37:50 ORGANIZATION OF WHAT TAMPA CAN TO DO OCCUR ON APRIL 2.
14:37:52 A MOTION.
14:37:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION UNDER CEREMONIAL ITEMS?
14:37:59 >> YES
14:37:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A PRESENTATION?
14:38:00 >> YES.
14:38:08 >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN VIERA AND SECOND.
14:38:12 >>LUIS VIERA: AND A CENTRAL FRIENDLY WORKROOM FOR
14:38:13 CHILDREN WITH AUTISM.
14:38:21 >> A MOTION FROM LUIS VIERA AND BY JOSEPH CITRO.
14:38:24 >>LUIS VIERA: AND PENGUIN PROJECT FOR OVER THE
14:38:26 WEEKEND.
14:38:27 ALL IN FAVOR.
14:38:29 >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.
14:38:32 EXCUSE ME.
14:38:35 >> THAT NEW TAMPA PLAYERS, YOU MET THEM YESTERDAY OR
14:38:37 THE DAY BEFORE, THE PROGRAM THEY HAVE GOING ON THIS
14:38:42 WEEKEND THEY SHOULD TRY TO ATTEND.
14:38:45 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BE THERE WITH MY FAMILY AND
14:38:46 ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO.
14:38:48 A REALLY GREAT THING.
14:38:51 ANYBODY -- AND I -- I APOLOGIZE.
14:38:51 ONE LAST THING.
14:38:54 THIS EVENING I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY AT THE AMERICAN
14:38:58 LEGION WILL BE DOING THE -- THE COMMENDATION THERE FOR
14:39:00 BILL HAMMOND.
14:39:04 THEY INVITED ME TO OCCUR -- I THINK TONIGHT AT 7:00.
14:39:07 BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO, PLEASE COME.
14:39:13 I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE FOLKS THERE.
14:39:15 >> LEAGUES 5, POST 5?
14:39:16 >>LUIS VIERA: APOLOGIZE.
14:39:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
14:39:19 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:39:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, GOES BACK TO MR. CITRO'S POINT
14:39:25 AND SMALL BUSINESS AND RISK MANAGEMENT.
14:39:27 THE GROUP THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE ADVOCATING
14:39:32 AND BEING PAID ON THE CONTRACT TO NOTIFY BUSINESSES AND
14:39:33 SO FORTH.
14:39:35 IF THAT IS THE CASE, MY THING IS WHY ARE THESE
14:39:39 BUSINESSES NOT TOLD ABOUT THE IMPACT RISK MANAGEMENT
14:39:42 THEY CAN BE APPLIED.
14:39:45 TO IF NUMBER TWO, MOST OF YOUR SMALL MOM AND POP
14:39:48 RESTAURANTS DON'T HAVE THE ATTORNEYS AND THE SKILL SET
14:39:52 AT TIMES TO FILL OUT ALL THIS STUFF AND IT SCARES THEM
14:39:54 AND NOW YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT ALL THE FINANCIALS THAT
14:39:57 THEY MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO DO AND UNDERSTAND AND IMPACT
14:39:58 AND CONSTRUCTION.
14:40:02 HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT -- I AM JUST A GUY THAT IS
14:40:04 TRYING TO MAKE TAMPA.
14:40:07 SEND SANDWICHES AND WHATEVER.
14:40:09 SO WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE, BUT WE HAVE TO BE THE
14:40:13 ONES TO ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHEN THERE IS
14:40:14 AN IMPACT.
14:40:17 SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE ARE TALKING
14:40:20 ABOUT IMPACTING PEOPLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP
14:40:22 PEEP AS FAR AS OUR ROADS AND WHATEVER.
14:40:25 BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE -- IF SOMETHING IN THOSE
14:40:28 CONTRACTS SAYING THIS IS FIRM AND SUPPOSED TO BE
14:40:31 ADVOCATING FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, THEY NEED TO ADVOCATE
14:40:34 THE RIGHT WAY AND HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION SO THOSE
14:40:36 PEOPLE CAN KNOW AND SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED.
14:40:39 IF YOU NEED HELP, YOU CAN HELP YOU.
14:40:43 GOING FORWARD, WE CAN PUT NEW POLICIES IN PLACE TO MAKE
14:40:44 SURE WE HELP THESE PEOPLE.
14:40:46 I THINK THAT IS NEEDED FROM WHAT I AM HEARING.
14:40:49 WHAT I AM SEEING.
14:40:54 >> WE DO PROVIDE THE SMALL AND ALL BUSINESSES WITH WHAT
14:41:02 THE PROCESS IS, YOU KNOW, TO APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE OR
14:41:06 FILE A CLAIM, I SHOULD SAY.
14:41:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM SURE YOU PROBABLY DO AND
14:41:11 PROBABLY THOSE BIGGER BUSINESSES THAT HAVE -- CERTAIN
14:41:14 PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT TO DO AND HOW THIS DO IT, BUT I
14:41:17 ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE LITTLE GUY WHO DON'T
14:41:19 REALLY KNOW TO KNOW BUT WANT TO KNOW.
14:41:23 SO I THINK -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING OUT
14:41:24 FOR THOSE -- THE LITTLE GUY.
14:41:26 THE BIG GUY THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE ATTORNEYS AND
14:41:28 KNOW, HEY, GET WITH THE CITY.
14:41:30 WE HAVE AN IMPACT, WHATEVER.
14:41:33 BUT THE LITTLE GUY DOESN'T REALLY KNOW THE TON.
14:41:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:41:35 ANYBODY ELSE?
14:41:36 NO.
14:41:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BAIRD.
14:41:42 MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 71.
14:41:48 >> ITEM NUMBER 71, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR.
14:41:49 THE SIX YEAR REPORT.
14:41:55 SIX YEARS -- APOLOGIZE, SIX-MONTH REPORT ASSOCIATED
14:42:02 WITH -- WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION TO REPORT ON.
14:42:05 OBVIOUSLY WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN THE PIPES PROGRAM
14:42:07 UNDER CONSTRUCTION YET.
14:42:11 AND MAY NOT AT THE SECOND SIX MONTHS REPORT.
14:42:13 WE CERTAINLY WILL ON THE THIRD.
14:42:18 BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION THAT
14:42:24 WE HAVE THREE MAJOR CONSULTANTS COMPETITIVE
14:42:28 NEGOTIATIONS ACT DESIGN TEAMS SELECTED.
14:42:32 ONE FOR EACH -- ONE FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT,
14:42:35 ONE FOR THE WATER PLANT, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE
14:42:40 INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TAMPA'S NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALSO BEEN
14:42:41 SELECTED.
14:42:45 AND SELECTED BY THE MAYOR.
14:42:52 AND THOSE THREE ALONE TOTAL UP TODAY 754 MILLION.
14:42:57 AND SO WE ARE ALREADY ROLLING IN TO PUTTING TOGETHER
14:43:00 AGREEMENT.
14:43:03 INITIAL AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE THREE TEAMS TO GET GOING
14:43:08 ON SURVEYING, DESIGN AND MAYBE SOME EARLY WORK AS WELL.
14:43:10 SO -- SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
14:43:15 WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT OUT ADDITIONAL RFQS
14:43:20 THINGS FOR PUMPING STATION, REHABILITATION.
14:43:25 AND SULPHUR SPRINGS, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
14:43:28 CITYWIDE PUMPING STATION.
14:43:32 REHABILITATION FOR PUMPING STATIONS AND SEVERAL OTHERS
14:43:35 THAT ARE NOT PIPE RELATED AS WELL.
14:43:40 SO WE ARE -- WE ARE ALREADY CLOSING IN ON A BILLION
14:43:43 DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE MOVING
14:43:44 AHEAD WITH.
14:43:49 AND I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND YOU
14:43:51 THAT IN THE PIPES PRESENTATION, SIX MONTHS AGO, WE
14:43:58 TALKED ABOUT SOME CCNA SCORING CHANGES WITH REGARD TO
14:44:05 THE -- THE MB DO -- OR THE MBD OFFICE, AND ALSO A NEW
14:44:09 GRADING CATEGORY FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
14:44:16 WE INCREASE THE SCORING CRITERIA FOR I GUESS -- NOW
14:44:20 IT'S APRIL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IF I GOT THAT RIGHT.
14:44:23 MR. HART.
14:44:27 WITH INCREASING SCORING FROM 10 TO 20 POINTS.
14:44:30 AND I CAN TELL YOU THE COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY SEEN THAT
14:44:34 IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IF THE SHORT LISTED TEAMS
14:44:35 THAT WE ARE SEEING.
14:44:40 AND THEN THE NEW GRADING CATEGORY OF WORK FORCE
14:44:42 DEVELOPMENT WAS ADDED.
14:44:45 AND IN LINE WITH THE MAYOR'S INITIATIVE ON WORK FORCE
14:44:46 DEVELOPMENT.
14:44:50 AND THAT IS WORTH TEN POINTS.
14:44:55 AND SO AS QUICKLY THINGS WE ARE DOING TO MAXIMIZE WMBE
14:44:58 AND SLE INVOLVEMENT.
14:45:01 THE SELECTION PROCESS WILL EMPHASIZE BUSINESS
14:45:05 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FIRMS, WITH THE -- WITH A --
14:45:10 CERTIFIED BY THE CITY AND DESIGN SUBCONSULTANTS WILL BE
14:45:14 EMPHASIZED IN THE PRESUBMITTAL CONFERENCE, AND IN THE
14:45:16 CNNA PRESENTATION.
14:45:20 WE ARE ASKING A LOT MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOUR
14:45:22 PARTICIPATION ON THE DESIGN PHASE, NOT JUST THE
14:45:25 CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
14:45:31 AND THEN WE WILL MAXIMIZE SUBCONTRACTING WITH THE CITY.
14:45:35 AS I SAID BEFORE, WHAT THE CERTIFIED FIRMS AS PART OF
14:45:38 THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE NEGOTIATIONS.
14:45:40 AND THAT IS -- THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
14:45:44 WE CAN -- WE CAN JUST CONTINUE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL
14:45:47 WE ARE SATISFIED THAT WHAT YOU SAID IN THE
14:45:49 PRESENTATION, WHAT YOU SUBMITTED AS PART OF YOUR
14:45:53 PACKAGE, YOU ARE EITHER MEETING THAT OR UX SEEDING
14:45:53 THAT.
14:45:58 WE WILL HAVE JOINT LETTERS OF INTENT EXECUTED BY THE
14:46:01 PRIME CONTRACTOR AND SUBCONTRACTOR SURVEY AUDITS
14:46:04 CONDUCTED BY MR. HART'S OFFICE.
14:46:07 AND MR. HART'S OFFICE WILL TRACK EVERYTHING USING A
14:46:13 DIVERSITY MANAGEMENT COMPLIANT SYSTEM.
14:46:14 AND.
14:46:18 BEFORE I GET INTO LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ON THE WORK
14:46:22 FORCE DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AN
14:46:25 EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
14:46:31 JUST YESTERDAY ON THE DAVID L. TIPPEN WATER FACILITY
14:46:34 HIGH SERVICE PUMPING PROJECT.
14:46:36 WE HAD AN EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY WORKSHOP.
14:46:42 AND 60 TO 70 VENDORS ATTENDED THAT EVENT YESTERDAY.
14:46:44 60 AND 70 VENDORS.
14:46:45 HUGE SUCCESS.
14:46:48 IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
14:46:53 AND THEN FINALLY, THE MAXIMIZING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
14:46:55 YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE AND I WANT TO REPEAT IT.
14:46:58 IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM,
14:47:02 MENTORING, ON-THE-JOB TRAINING.
14:47:06 FOSTERING A STRONG AND TALENTED WORKFORCE IN TAMPA, TO
14:47:11 FINDING -- FINDING PATHWAYS THROUGH HIGHER EDUCATION.
14:47:14 TECHNICAL CERTIFICATION PROGRAMS.
14:47:15 >> IT CAREER READINESS.
14:47:18 WORK FORCE INCENTIVES.
14:47:21 CHAMPIONING LOCAL BUSINESSES, REMOVING BARRIERS TO
14:47:23 ACCESS.
14:47:30 AND THEN REALLY A FOCUS ON CONTRACTING TRADES,
14:47:34 ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURAL, GEOTECHNICAL AND PUBLIC
14:47:36 ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
14:47:40 SO WE ARE SEEING IN THE PRESENTATION THE TEAMS GIVE THE
14:47:45 COMMITTEE, THEY ARE REALLY LASER FOCUSED ON MAKING THIS
14:47:49 WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THEIR OVERALL
14:47:50 PROGRAMS.
14:47:53 SO WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
14:47:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN
14:47:56 DINGFELDER.
14:47:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAVE TO GIVE PROPS FROM PEOPLE
14:47:59 WHO ARE WORKING.
14:48:03 AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS
14:48:05 SAYINGS, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING AND ALSO THE
14:48:08 BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS SAYING, BUT I STILL CONTEND WHEN
14:48:17 WE TALK THIS WEEK AND HE CONCURRED, I ALWAYS LOOK AT
14:48:20 PROTECTING THE HOUSE AND COMPLIANCE.
14:48:25 TELL MR. HART HE IS HERE, THAT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A
14:48:28 COMPLIANCE OFFICER TO MAKE HOUR PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE
14:48:30 DOING, THEY ARE DOING.
14:48:33 WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IS HERE AND IF WE HAVE NOBODY
14:48:38 MAKING SURE THE HOUSE IS BEING PROTECTED, WE GOT NO --
14:48:44 NO CONTROL SO I AM LOOKING TO MAKE SURE TO GET CONTROL
14:48:46 AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE SIGNING CONTRACTS AND GETTING OUR
14:48:50 DOLLARS, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING COMPLIANCE UNTIL WE CAN
14:48:53 SEE THAT THEY GOT THIS 20%.
14:48:55 THEY GOT IN THIS AND THAT.
14:48:57 AND THAT WE ARE HAVING THEM TO HAVE.
14:48:59 AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS BEING OCCURRING MAINLY
14:49:04 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT OR, THE KIND
14:49:06 OF MONEY WE ARE PUTTING BEHIND THESE EFFORTS, WE GOT TO
14:49:09 HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS IN CHARGE OF THAT TO MAKE SURE
14:49:13 INDEPENDENTLY WE ARE BEING DONE AND THE BEST BANG FOR
14:49:14 OUR BUCK.
14:49:16 I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER AND WE NEED TO GET
14:49:18 IT DONE.
14:49:18 >> WE DID.
14:49:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:49:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU MR. BAIRD.
14:49:27 JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I WANT TO START WITH THE
14:49:29 EASIER ONE.
14:49:34 ULTIMATELY YOU WILL BE BRINGING THOSE GUARANTEED GMPS
14:49:45 CONTRACT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL I WILL SUGGEST ONLY
14:49:49 ONE OF FOUR BUT WHEN THE TIME COMES I AM GOING TO
14:49:53 SUGGEST IT ANYWAY AND MIGHT AS WELL TELL THEM TO BE
14:49:59 PREPARED FOR IT OFFICER ABOUT TO AWARD THEM SOME PIECE
14:50:03 OF 200 MILLION, $300 MILLION CONTRACT.
14:50:07 IMAGINE DO IT INCREMENTALLY OVER THE YEARS AND EVEN $10
14:50:12 MILLION TODAY 15 MILLION WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY COME
14:50:14 TO COUNCIL WITH THEIR PRESENTATION, EACH ONE OF THEM
14:50:19 WITH THEIR WMBE PRESENTATION.
14:50:23 I AM NOT GOING TO DO IT BY MOTION, BUT I AM SURE THAT
14:50:27 YOU AND THE VENDORS WILL BE FINE WITH THAT.
14:50:33 MY SECOND ONE IS A LITTLE -- A LITTLE MORE TRICKY.
14:50:41 LITTLE TRICKIER AND SPOKE ABOUT IT DURING THE PIPES
14:50:42 DISCUSSION.
14:50:43 IS MR. HART BACK THERE?
14:50:44 THERE HE IS.
14:50:49 I CAN'T SEE HIM, BUT I KNOW THAT HIS GROUP LOST JUST
14:50:52 LIKE SO MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, GENERAL FUND
14:51:01 DEPARTMENTS LOST PEOPLE DURING THE RECESSION.
14:51:03 I DON'T THINK THEY GAINED THOSE FOLKS.
14:51:06 I HAVE A SENSE THEY DO MORE WITH LESS AND JUST UNDER A
14:51:10 DAY-TO-DAY CIRCUMSTANCE AND NOW HAVE PIPES AND WHAT WAS
14:51:14 THE OTHER ONE -- PIPES -- WE WILL LEAVE IT AT PIPES FOR
14:51:14 NOW.
14:51:25 >> TWO TREATMENT PLANTS.
14:51:27 PROJECT THAT INCLUDE MR. HART'S GROUP AND ADDITIONAL
14:51:32 WORK ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED WITH PIPES.
14:51:36 PIPES SINCE IT IS A LONG-TERM PROJECT 10 TO 20 YEARS,
14:51:45 CAN'T THEY HIRE ADDITIONAL WMBE FOLKS TO HELP OUT THE
14:51:48 WMBE PROGRAM.
14:51:51 I SHOULD PUT IT THIS WAY, HAVE YOU HIRED ADDITIONAL
14:51:55 FOLKS USING THE PIPES MONEY, AND IF NOT, DO YOU HAVE
14:51:59 ANY REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T OR COULDN'T?
14:52:02 >> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE OUT OF PIPES.
14:52:07 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER PIPES IS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
14:52:10 IF THIS CAN BE AN ANCILLARY PART OF THAT.
14:52:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT YOU ARE HIRING ADDITIONAL
14:52:16 ENGINEERS IN HOUSE?
14:52:18 >> WE ARE HIRING PR PEOPLE.
14:52:22 THIS WILL BE HIRING CITIES, EMPLOYEES USING CAPITAL
14:52:24 MONEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE DONE BUT I CAN
14:52:27 CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT.
14:52:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVEN IF IT IS NOT HIRING.
14:52:34 MAYBE IT IS CONTRACTING WITH SOME WMBE CONTRACTORS.
14:52:38 AND I AM SURE GREG PROBABLY KNOWS -- KNOWS MR. HART
14:52:45 KNOWS FOLKS OUT THERE.
14:52:46 >> LOOK INTO THAT.
14:52:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN ONLY ASK SO MUCH OF THAT
14:52:50 GROUP BEFORE SOMETHING STARTS GIVING.
14:52:52 AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.
14:52:54 WE WANT TO ALL TO IMPROVE.
14:52:58 LIKE I SAID ALL ALONG, NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BILLION
14:52:59 DOLLARS TO WORK WITH.
14:53:04 AND I AM NOT TRYING TO SPEND IT WILLY-NILLY.
14:53:08 BUT THING IS A VERY WORTHWHILE OPPORTUNITY DO SO.
14:53:11 >> WE WILL LOOK THANK IS THAT.
14:53:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, BRETT THE.
14:53:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
14:53:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:53:20 >>BILL CARLSON: SOME OF THE LAST TWO PROJECTS.
14:53:27 AND YOU TALK ABOUT HIRING, AND THE MOTION THAT MY
14:53:31 COLLEAGUES APPROVED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CONSIDER
14:53:33 HIRING A COMMUNICATION STAFF, NOT ONE PERSON OR A
14:53:34 DEPARTMENT OR STAFF.
14:53:38 AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT $4 BILLION IN PROJECTS, THERE
14:53:41 POTENTIALLY COULD BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, MORE THAN
14:53:44 $1 MILLION A YEAR IN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
14:53:46 AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT KNOCKING
14:53:49 ON DOORS AND HANDING OUT FLYERS.
14:53:51 THAT CAN BE DONE BY STAFF.
14:53:55 SO MUCH GOING ON AROUND THE CITY AND MAKE MORE SENSE TO
14:53:57 HAVE CONSISTENCY.
14:54:01 DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T OUTSOURCE SOME OF IT BUT
14:54:04 THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE PEOPLE
14:54:07 AND NEED SOME INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY TO ADDRESS THESE
14:54:10 ISSUES AND THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO
14:54:12 HAVE A DEPTH OF INFORMATION NOT JUST SOMEBODY WHO IS
14:54:13 GIVEN A CRYPT.
14:54:16 SO ANYWAY, THAT WILL COME UP ANOTHER TIME.
14:54:20 AND JUST TO MAKE CLEAR, THE INTENT IS TO SAVE MONEY AND
14:54:23 HAVE MORE AUTHENTICITY WITH THE PUBLIC AND BE MORE
14:54:28 EFFECTIVE WITH THE PUBLIC WITH IN-HOUSE PEOPLE THAN
14:54:29 OUTSOURCE.
14:54:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:54:33 ANYBODY ELSE?
14:54:34 SEEING NONE?
14:54:35 ITEM NUMBER 72.
14:54:37 THANK YOU, SIR.
14:54:41 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY CHAIR, JAN MCCLEAN, OFFICE OF
14:54:42 THE CITY OF ATTORNEY.
14:54:46 I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 72 TODAY.
14:54:49 AND IN PREFACE TO MY REPORT, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU
14:54:53 AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE ACTIONS OR NONE ACTIONS THAT
14:54:58 ARE OCCURRING SINCE MY LAST PRESENTATION TO YOU ON THIS
14:54:59 SUBJECT.
14:55:02 ONE OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE TWO BILLS
14:55:04 WITHIN THE LEGISLATURE THAT WERE BEING CONSIDERED THAT
14:55:08 WOULD REPEAL THE PREEMPTION FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO
14:55:13 REGULATE SINGLE SOURCE PLASTICS AND PYROSTYRENE.
14:55:22 BOTH OF THOSE BILLS 673 AND WERE FILED.
14:55:24 REFERRED TO THREE COMMITTEES AND NEVER HEARD.
14:55:26 THEY ARE STILL SITTING UP IN THE LEGISLATURE AND GIVEN
14:55:30 IT ENDS NEXT WEEK, WOULD VENTURE TO REPORT THAT THEY
14:55:34 WOULD NOT BE PASSED.
14:55:38 THERE IS THE -- THE COURT CASE WITH REGARD TO CITY OF
14:55:46 CORAL GABLES ON WRIT OF CERT TO THE SUPREME COURT.
14:55:48 WE DON'T HAVE A DECISION ON THAT AT THIS TIME.
14:55:52 THE DIRECTOR OF THE MOTION THAT COUNCIL MADE WAS TO
14:55:56 APPEAR AND PRESENT A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT IS MODELLED
14:55:59 AFTER THE CITY OF ORLANDO AND POLICY THAT SAID
14:56:02 ORDINANCE IS IN THE CONSTRAINT WITH THE USE OF SINGLE
14:56:03 USE PLASTICS.
14:56:06 WHAT WE DO IN PREPARATION AND RESPONSE TO CITY
14:56:11 COUNCIL'S MOTION WAS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT BOTH THE
14:56:15 LEGISLATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE PORTIONS OF HOW WE CAN
14:56:18 IMPLEMENT WHAT THE CITY OF ORLANDO HAD DONE.
14:56:20 BECAUSE AS YOU RECALL, WHEN I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU
14:56:23 PREVIOUSLY, I WOULD EXPLAIN WHAT THE THINK OF ORLANDO
14:56:27 DID WAS THEY CONSTRAINED THEIR SINGLE USE PLASTICS
14:56:30 RESTRICTIONS TO CITY PROPERTY.
14:56:33 AND THEY ADOPTED IT BY POLICY, NOT BY ORDINANCE.
14:56:36 SO IT IS IMPLEMENTED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
14:56:41 AND I ALSO WITH MISS WYNN HAVE MET WITH A
14:56:45 REPRESENTATIVE -- MR. CHRISTIAN LEON HERE AT YOUR LAST
14:56:48 PRESENTATION WHO REPRESENTS -- AND I WANT TO GET THIS
14:56:53 ACCURATE, THE IS SUNCOAST RISE ABOVE COALITION.
14:56:55 HE WAS INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL.
14:56:59 HE HAS DONE A LOT OF OUTWORK AND OUTREACH TO
14:57:03 BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS AND HE SENT ME AN E-MAIL TODAY
14:57:06 THAT SAID HE IS MEETING WITH THE ORGANIZERS OF THE
14:57:09 GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL AND THE FLORIDA BLUE THIS
14:57:14 WEEKEND TO WHAT -- WHAT HE IS DOING IS LIKE YOU WHAT
14:57:17 JUST ARE TALK ABOUT.
14:57:21 AN OUTREACH AND LOOKING FOR VOLUNTARY POPULATION FOR
14:57:27 RESIDENTIAL OF THESE SINGLE USE PLASTICS THAT WE ARE
14:57:29 PREEMPTED FROM REGULATING.
14:57:31 SO IN RESPONSE.
14:57:35 THE -- AS YOU ALSO WELL KNOW, ONE THE MAYOR'S
14:57:42 INITIATIVES IS THE SUSTAINABILITY AND THE RESILIENCY
14:57:43 OFFICER.
14:57:46 MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BRINGING
14:57:48 SOMEONE ON BOARD TO DO THAT.
14:57:52 I AM NOT PRIVY OF WHAT THE TIMELINE IS, BUT IT IS NEAR,
14:57:56 AND AS PART OF THAT, WE WERE LOOKING AT EDUCATION
14:58:00 OUTREACH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH REGARD TO THE
14:58:04 BUSINESSES AND ESPECIALLY THE DISABLED COMMUNITY AS ONE
14:58:06 OF THE THINGS THAT MR. LEON HAD BROUGHT UP THAT THE
14:58:09 DISABLED COMMUNITY TO REPRESENTATIVES HAVE INDICATED IN
14:58:11 SOME OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
14:58:15 THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.
14:58:20 AND ALSO WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT MIGHT BE ON
14:58:20 REGULATION.
14:58:24 REGULATING THESE TYPE OF PRODUCTS AS FAR AS EVEN ON OUR
14:58:29 OWN PROPERTY, ON FOOD TRUCKS, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND THE
14:58:33 ECONOMIC IMPACT OF WHAT IT WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO
14:58:36 CONTRACTS THAT WE ALREADY ENTERED INTO.
14:58:42 AND FINALLY, BUT NOT -- NOT SO MINOR, ESPECIALLY IF YOU
14:58:45 WERE -- VERY INTERESTED IN FOOTBALL WITH THE SUPER BOWL
14:58:47 UPCOMING.
14:58:50 THERE WILL BE MAJOR EVENTS GOING ON AND MY
14:58:53 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NFL HAS A GREEN INITIATIVE.
14:58:56 AND SO TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I HAVEN'T HAD AN
14:59:01 OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR -- WHAT THEIR PROGRAM
14:59:04 IS AND HOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT RELATE TO WHAT WE WOULD
14:59:08 BE BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS HOW WE WOULD BE
14:59:14 IMPLEMENTING OUR SINGLE USE PLASTICS.
14:59:18 IN -- AND SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THIS ISSUE IN A
14:59:24 HOLISTIC MATTER AND TO ASK COUNCIL TO WAIT FOR THE
14:59:29 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY OFFICER TO HAVE THAT ON
14:59:31 BOARD AND TO HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED WITH THE COMMITTEE
14:59:34 TO BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL AS FAR AS
14:59:36 IMPLEMENTATION.
14:59:41 I DID LOOK AND DID PREPARE BUT NOT FOR CONSIDERATION OR
14:59:45 GOING FORWARD BECAUSE IT SIMPLY IS A PLACE HOLDER IS
14:59:54 WITH REGARD TO WHAT COULD BE ADOPTED LEGISLATIVELY AS
14:59:56 OWE PODDED TO ADMINISTRATIVELY.
14:59:59 AND WE ARE REALLY NOT AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
15:00:04 OF THE -- WHAT THE INITIATIVE WOULD BE GOING FORWARD.
15:00:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:00:06 >> THANK YOU.
15:00:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
15:00:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I AM AGREEING WITH THIS
15:00:16 REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US TODAY.
15:00:19 TALLAHASSEE HAS PREEMPTED US ON SO MANY THINGS.
15:00:23 IF WE MOVE FORWARD ON SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE, I FEAR
15:00:26 WITHOUT HEARING FROM THE LEGISLATION, WE MIGHT BE
15:00:29 PREEMPTED AGAIN.
15:00:32 UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WANT TO
15:00:38 BRING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
15:00:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU NOT SAY THE ISSUES ARE
15:00:43 DEAD SINCE SESSION ENDS NEXT WEEK AND REALLY NOTHING
15:00:44 GOING ON THIS SESSION?
15:00:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TABLE THIS
15:00:51 DISCUSSION OR REVISIT THIS DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE DATE.
15:00:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
15:00:56 ANYBODY ELSE?
15:00:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE STAFF RETURN TO JUNE 4 FOR
15:01:05 PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION ON SINGLE-USE PLASTICS ON CITY
15:01:07 PROPERTY OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, EDUCATION ARE
15:01:10 RECOGNIZE GNOMIC EDUCATION, IMPACT, REVIEW AND SUCH
15:01:13 OTHER RESTRICTIONS AS REPORTED BY ANY LEGISLATIVE AND
15:01:17 LEGAL ACTION THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND SUCH OTHER RELEVANT
15:01:20 INFORMATION IS NECESSARY.
15:01:23 I AM ASKING FOR STAFF TO COME TO BACK ON JULY -- JUNE
15:01:23 4.
15:01:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
15:01:29 ANY DISCUSSION IN AYE.
15:01:30 THANK YOU.
15:01:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
15:01:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER 73.
15:01:43 >> YOU SAID ONLY FOUR DINGFELDER DING I AM JUST
15:01:43 TEASING.
15:01:46 GIVING YOU A HARD TIME.
15:01:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS DUNCAN.
15:01:53 >> JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
15:01:55 I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU A REPORT THAT WE SUBMITTED
15:01:58 BASICALLY A MEMO.
15:02:02 WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR INFORMATION
15:02:03 REGARDING THAT MEMO.
15:02:07 A REQUEST OF CREATING A PARKING ENFORCEMENT DIVISION
15:02:10 THAT WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO DO THAT IF WE HAD ALL
15:02:13 KINDS OF MONEY AND OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO
15:02:18 IS TAKE AN INCREMENTAL STEP TOWARD THAT DESIRE AND
15:02:21 MAXIMIZE EXISTING RESOURCES FIRST TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF
15:02:25 CONCERN WHICH IS SOME EGREGIOUS PARKING SITUATIONS AND
15:02:28 PROBABLY SOME PARTICULAR AREAS AROUND THE CITY.
15:02:31 SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO FIRST, TAKE A NO COST APPROACH AT
15:02:32 THIS.
15:02:36 WE HAVE GOT 43 CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WE ARE
15:02:40 GOING TO START TRAINING AND CERTIFYING TO BE CAPABLE
15:02:46 AND PROPERLY INFORMED AND TRAINED TO DO PARKING
15:02:48 ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
15:02:51 WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO FOCUS ON PARTICULAR AREAS
15:02:54 STARTING OUT THAT WE KNOW ARE PROBLEMATIC.
15:02:58 AND SOME OF THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE
15:03:03 NONCODE SITUATIONS WITH BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOTS AND
15:03:07 SO FORTH, WE WANT TO GIVE A REAL ACCURATE TEMPLATE TO
15:03:10 OUR CODE OFFICERS OF WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, YOU
15:03:14 KNOW, APPROPRIATE CITATION SITUATION AND NOT GO
15:03:16 OVERBOARD WITH THE ENFORCEMENT.
15:03:21 AND SO, AS PART OF THAT TRAINING AND PARALLEL TO THAT.
15:03:23 WE HAVE OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WORKING ON MODIFYING
15:03:28 CHAPTER 19 OF OUR CODE TO ALLOW THIS CHANGE TO OCCUR
15:03:31 WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU VERY SOON.
15:03:37 AND WE ALSO HAD JUST SOMEWHAT COINCIDENTALLY THE
15:03:41 OPPORTUNITY FOR VIK BHIDE OUR NEW TRANSPORTATION AND
15:03:43 STORMWATER SERVICES, WE ARE CALLING OUR MOBILITY
15:03:46 DEPARTMENT, OUR DIRECTOR.
15:03:52 HE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH SOME RESIDENTS LAST NIGHT.
15:03:56 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I AM NOT SURE IF YOU WERE THERE?
15:03:57 I THINK YOU WERE THERE, YES.
15:04:00 AND HEAR FIRST HAND OF THAT PARTICULAR GROUP FROM THEIR
15:04:00 CONCERNS.
15:04:06 I SPOKEN TO STEVE MICHELLINI OF GETTING INPUT FROM HIS
15:04:09 CLIENTS, THE BUSINESSES ALONG THE HOWARD CORRIDOR TO
15:04:11 SEE WHAT ISSUES THEY ARE HAVING.
15:04:13 SO WOULD LIKE TO START OFF FIRST WITH THE MORE
15:04:17 PROBLEMATIC AREAS AS A PRIORITY.
15:04:19 BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS REALLY WHAT -- WHAT PROMPTED
15:04:23 THIS INTEREST IN THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
15:04:28 AND SO, AGAIN, IN PARALLEL WITH ALL THAT, WE ARE
15:04:32 WORKING ON HAVING A WEB PAGE FOR CITIZENS TO SHARE
15:04:35 THEIR PARKING ISSUE THAT'S WE HAVE.
15:04:37 OR TO ASK FOR A FORUM.
15:04:38 IT CAN BE SMALL.
15:04:43 IT CAN BE LARGER SCALE AND STAFF LIKELY VIK BHIDE AND
15:04:46 MYSELF WILL GO OUT AND HEAR FROM PEOPLE DIRECTLY.
15:04:49 BUT WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE SO WE CAN BE SPECIFIC WITH
15:04:53 TARGETING THOSE CODE ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES TO THE
15:04:55 PROBLEMS WE ARE HAVING.
15:04:59 SO THAT -- THAT IS A QUICK READER'S DIGEST OF OUR PLAN
15:05:00 OF ACTION.
15:05:02 IN THE MEANTIME OF THIS, THERE ARE TWO OTHER QUICK
15:05:02 THINGS.
15:05:10 ONE IS TPD HAS OFFERED TO BE -- OF ISSUE.
15:05:12 THE HYDE PARK AREA.
15:05:15 THE CORRIDOR TO DO ENFORCEMENT.
15:05:18 WHETHER THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT LAYER COMES ALONG.
15:05:22 WE WANT TO DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH AND SOME SOCIAL
15:05:25 MEDIA OUTREACH TO LET PEOPLE KNOW AND ENFORCEMENT IS
15:05:29 GOING TO BE MORE ENHANCED IN WHAT IT HAS BEEN.
15:05:33 IF PEOPLE START TO VOLUNTARILY DO THE RIGHT THING.
15:05:37 AND THEN ON THAT WEB PAGE, LIKE I SAID, IF PEOPLE WANT
15:05:39 TO COME CHAT WITH HIM TO HEAR FIRST HAND WHAT THEIR
15:05:44 ISSUES ARE, THEN WE CAN BE BETTER REACTIVE TO ADDRESS
15:05:44 THOSE ISSUES.
15:05:47 WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
15:05:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
15:05:54 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO YOU AND VIK AND CHIEF OF
15:05:56 STAFF AND LEGAL AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS.
15:05:58 THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN HEARING THE DRUMBEAT ON
15:05:59 FOR A LONG TIME.
15:06:01 AND IT IS CITY WIDE.
15:06:06 AND REALLY I THINK IT SHOULD BE UNDER THE HEADING OF
15:06:07 ENFORCING PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
15:06:09 BECAUSE I THINK OTHER THAN THE POLICE, THERE IS
15:06:11 ENFORCEMENT IN DOWNTOWN AND YBOR.
15:06:16 I WAS AT GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL ON -- ART FESTIVAL
15:06:18 ON SATURDAY -- SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.
15:06:21 AND FOR, LIKE, TEN BLOCKS -- BECAUSE THERE IS NO
15:06:24 PARKING -- VERY LITTLE PARKING.
15:06:26 PEOPLE WERE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE WEST.
15:06:29 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THAT.
15:06:30 THE POINT IS YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING.
15:06:31 THAT IS WEST TAMPA.
15:06:34 YOU SEE IT HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
15:06:36 AND A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
15:06:41 ONE IS, IF THIS IS AN INTERIM STEP TOWARD MAYBE
15:06:44 CREATING A LARGER PARKING DIVISION.
15:06:47 HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OTHER PARKING DIVISIONS?
15:06:52 ARE THEY TYPICALLY SELF-SUSTAINING AND SELF-FUNDING AND
15:06:55 WRITE THE TICKETS AND DO THEY USUALLY PAY FOR THE
15:06:55 STAFF?
15:07:00 >> I DON'T HAVE A CHANCE PERSONALLY TO RESEARCH THAT.
15:07:03 AND SELL CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THERE COULD
15:07:08 BE A MORE SUSTAINABLE SITUATION WHERE THE CITATIONS ARE
15:07:10 SUPPORTING THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST OF THE PROGRAM.
15:07:13 HAVING YOU LOOK INTO MORE OF THIS.
15:07:15 >> JUST FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING.
15:07:18 PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IN THE
15:07:19 DRIVEWAY.
15:07:23 PARK IN FRONT OF DRIVEWAYS AND FIRE HYDRANTS.
15:07:25 SOMEONE SAID THEY HAD TO BRING AN AMBULANCE IN FOR
15:07:30 THEIR PARTNER, AND -- YOU KNOW, IT WILL -- WILL
15:07:33 AMBULANCES NOT BE ABLE TO GET IN SOME TIME?
15:07:36 SOMEBODY THIS MORNING MENTIONED NOT TO TURN RIGHT OR
15:07:39 LEFT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PARKED TOO CLOSE TO STOP SIGNS.
15:07:40 OBVIOUS THINGS.
15:07:43 NOT JUST KIND OF MINOR COMPLAINTS.
15:07:46 THE OTHER QUESTION RELATED TO THAT AND LAST NIGHT IN
15:07:48 PARTICULAR WITHOUT MENTIONING NAMES, THERE IS ONE AREA
15:07:51 WHERE THERE IS A RESTAURANT THAT HAS BEEN A RESTAURANT
15:07:54 FOR A LONG TIME AND IN THE OLD DAYS, THEY DIDN'T NEED
15:07:56 MUCH PARKING BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD JUST GO TO THE
15:07:57 RESTAURANT.
15:08:01 NOWADAYS, A LOT OF RESTAURANT HAVE TAKEOUT.
15:08:04 THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR HAS A TAKEOUT.
15:08:08 A NEW PHENOMENON UBER EATS AND ALL THEIR COMPETITORS
15:08:12 AND CREATES SEVERAL HUNDRED CAR THAT'S PARK FIVE OR TEN
15:08:15 MINUTES ILLEGALLY AND ALLEGEDLY GET OUT.
15:08:18 ANYTHING WE COULD CHANGE OF ENFORCEMENT AND PARKING
15:08:21 RULES AND GUIDELINES OF THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE OF THE
15:08:23 NEW PHENOMENON?
15:08:24 >> I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION YOU ARE REFERRING
15:08:25 TO.
15:08:27 WE HAVE DO HAVE A PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL
15:08:30 GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF TO THAT SITUATION.
15:08:33 IT WILL ALSO BETTER MARK THE ROADWAYS AROUND THAT
15:08:38 PARTICULAR LOCATION WHERE RIGHT NOW.
15:08:41 WHEN CARS SEE A SEA OF ASPHALT THEY FEEL LIKE IT IS A
15:08:42 FREE FOR ALL.
15:08:44 THAT IS THE BEHAVIOR.
15:08:49 PEOPLE ARE NOT FOLLOWING USUAL PROTOCOL BECAUSE THE
15:08:51 STRIPE SOMETHING NOT THERE TO REMIND THEM WHERE TO
15:08:51 PARK.
15:08:53 THAT WILL GIVE SOME RELIEF.
15:08:56 WE WANT TO COUPLE THAT WITH TARGETED ENFORCEMENT OF
15:08:57 THESE PARTICULAR AREAS.
15:09:01 ONCE THE ENFORCEMENT MESSAGE GETS OUT THERE, WE FEEL
15:09:05 LIKE THERE WOULD BE MORE AVAILABILITY FOR PARKING AS
15:09:08 PEOPLE MAKE BETTER CHOICES OF HOW THEY ARE GOING TO GET
15:09:10 AND PARK AT THE RESTAURANT.
15:09:12 I THINK BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE RUN IN AND RUN
15:09:15 OUT, THEY FIGURE MY CHANCES OF GETTING A TICKET ARE
15:09:19 SMALL BECAUSE I WILL BE OUT OF HERE SOON.
15:09:20 THEY COME IN AND GO.
15:09:24 THE NEXT PERSON COMES IN AND GOES AND FOR THOSE WHO
15:09:27 LIVE THERE, THEY SEE A CONSTANT SET OF CAR THAT'S WILL
15:09:29 BE A PROBLEM.
15:09:31 >>BILL CARLSON: I WON'T ASK FOR A MOTION ON THIS BUT
15:09:32 TALK OFF-LINE.
15:09:35 CERTAIN DISTRICTS LIKE SOUTH HOWARD, YBOR.
15:09:37 THE BUSINESSES HAVE COME TOGETHER AND LOOKED AT WHERE
15:09:42 THERE WOULD BE UBER STOPS OR COMPETITORS TO UBER.
15:09:47 AND THIS FOOD DELIVERY ISSUE SEEMS TO BE CREATING A LOT
15:09:50 OF ISSUES THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN EVER EXISTED BEFORE.
15:09:53 AND WONDER ANYTHING ELSE THE CITY HAS DONE TO ADDRESS
15:09:55 THAT.
15:09:56 >> JUST VERY QUICKLY.
15:09:58 IT IS ALSO IN THE MEMO THAT WE HAVE A MICRO MOBILITY
15:10:00 MASTER PLAN.
15:10:03 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A LARGE ZONE AROUND THE DOWNTOWN
15:10:06 CORE WITH THE -- WITH THE STUDY.
15:10:10 WHICH IS BASICALLY A PLAN TO IDENTIFY OPTIMAL LOCATIONS
15:10:18 FOR SCOOTER CORRALS, UBER LIFT DROP-OFF.
15:10:22 FREIGHT DROP-OFFS OR BETTER TRY TO MANAGE THE
15:10:25 RIGHT-OF-WAYS WE OWN OUT HERE FOR THESE TYPE OF
15:10:29 PURPOSES TO HAVE A BETTER UTILIZATION OF THAT AND THOSE
15:10:29 COMPLAINTS.
15:10:31 SO WE THINK THAT WILL ALSO BE HELPFUL.
15:10:34 AND TRYING TO STRIKE IT FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES TO
15:10:37 ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
15:10:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
15:10:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YBOR -- YBOR PROPER HAS A BIG PROBLEM
15:10:48 WITH PARKING OF DELIVERY OF TRUCKS, FOOD, BEVERAGE,
15:10:49 THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
15:10:51 YOU CAN INCLUDE THOSE.
15:10:55 ARE YOU LEAVING AFTER THIS AGENDA ITEM?
15:10:58 >> I WAS GOING TO, BUT I CAN STAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME
15:10:59 TOO.
15:11:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I JUST WANT TO AGAIN CONGRATULATE YOU
15:11:05 ON THE AWARD YOU RECEIVED THE OTHER DAY.
15:11:05 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:11:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THAT FOR
15:11:10 SOME COUNCILMEMBERS OR SOME PEOPLE WHO DID NOT KNOW
15:11:11 ABOUT THAT?
15:11:14 >> YES, I WAS SO HONORED TO RECEIVE THE JUSTINE
15:11:18 STAFFORD AWARD AT THE WOMEN'S HISTORY EVENT.
15:11:20 AND I THANK ALL OF THOSE OF HOW WERE THERE.
15:11:23 MR. CARLSON, YOU HAD TO STAND UP FROM THE BACK.
15:11:26 SO THAT REALLY MEANT A LOT.
15:11:29 >>BILL CARLSON: A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE
15:11:31 GOT TO SEE YOU GET THE REWARD.
15:11:33 >> HONOR THAT WOULD YOU STAND UP DURING THE WHOLE
15:11:34 THING.
15:11:37 IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID WE GET TO
15:11:41 HEAR OUR MAYOR HAVE -- OUR DIGNITARIES SUCH AS OURSELF
15:11:46 BUT TO HEAR PAT FRANK TO SPEAK FOR ME WAS A PARTICULAR
15:11:50 MOMENT BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE TIMES TO GET TO
15:11:56 HEAR HER IN SUCH A SHORT DISTANCE FROM ME TO SPEAK.
15:11:57 SHE IS FASCINATING.
15:12:00 THE WOMEN COMMITTEE HAS DONE AN AWESOME JOB AND
15:12:08 APPRECIATE THEIR WORK AND I WILL TRY TO LIVE UP THAT
15:12:12 JOSEPHINE STAFFORD.
15:12:14 >> YOU DESERVE THIS AWARD AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
15:12:16 DID YOU FOR THE CITY.
15:12:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES THEN COUNCILMAN
15:12:20 DINGFELDER.
15:12:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN WE TRY TO FIX
15:12:26 A PROBLEM, WE DON'T FIX ALL OF THE PROBLEM.
15:12:28 AND I AM GOING TO BE CANDID THAT THE PARKING DIVISION,
15:12:31 I HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY CALLS AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE
15:12:33 PARKING DIVISION.
15:12:36 I SUBMITTED SOME STUFF TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
15:12:39 I ALSO -- I MET MRS. GRIMES.
15:12:44 I KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT SOME ISSUES WITH -- WITH
15:12:48 SOME ORDINANCES THAT MIGHT BE COMING FORTH SOON,
15:12:51 REPRESENTED TO THE DRIVER LICENSE SITUATIONS, AND WHEN
15:12:54 I SEE MORE ENFORCEMENT, THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
15:12:56 WE HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM IN PLACE WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO
15:13:00 DISPUTE THE ENFORCEMENT, AND I GET -- HEARING ALL THE
15:13:03 TIME THAT WHEN THEY GO TO THESE HEARINGS, THEY CAN'T
15:13:05 SET COURT DATES.
15:13:07 THEY HAVE ALL THESE KIND OF ISSUES.
15:13:10 WHEN WE TRY TO INCREASE THE ENFORCEMENT, THAT WE HAVE A
15:13:14 MECHANISM IN PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO THERE, SIGN UP TO
15:13:18 GET WHATEVER FUNDS THEY GOT TO GET OR PAY, AND THAT
15:13:20 THEY ARE NOT FRUSTRATED WITH.
15:13:23 YOU GET A TICKET, YOU GO RIGHT TO THE COURTHOUSE.
15:13:24 GO TO THE WINDOW.
15:13:27 TELL THEM YOUR NAME, BUT THEY TELL ME THE PROCESS OVER
15:13:29 HERE IS VERY HAVE VERY DIFFICULT.
15:13:32 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE
15:13:36 ENFORCEMENT, THAT WE GOT A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO GET
15:13:39 GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT.
15:13:40 PAY THEIR FINES.
15:13:41 DISPUTE THEIR FINES.
15:13:42 WHATEVER.
15:13:43 >> I APPRECIATE THAT FEED.
15:13:43 BACK.
15:13:46 THE PARKING DIVISION IS NOW PART OF THE MOBILITY
15:13:47 DEPARTMENT.
15:13:50 SO WE HAVE HAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS
15:13:50 NOW.
15:13:53 SO WE ARE HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT
15:13:55 WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.
15:13:58 AND HAPPY TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO DO
15:14:05 THINGS BETTER AND KEEP MORE COMPREHENSIVELY, BAKING IN
15:14:06 THE TRANSPORTATION PART OF THING AS WELL.
15:14:08 PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION IS OBVIOUSLY CLOSELY
15:14:09 ALIGNED.
15:14:13 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME BE AWARE OF THAT.
15:14:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:14:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS.
15:14:18 YEAH, ON A LIGHTER NOTE.
15:14:21 JEAN, I WANT TO ECHO JOE'S COMMENTS.
15:14:26 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON THE STAFFORD AWARD.
15:14:30 MISS STAFFORD WAS AN AMAZING LADY AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW
15:14:34 IN HER FOOTSTEPS ARE EQUALLY FANTASTIC.
15:14:39 AND -- AND IN REGARD -- IN REGARD TO THAT, I WAS JUST
15:14:41 THINKING TO MYSELF OVER THE 30 SOME YEARS THAT I HAVE
15:14:45 BEEN EITHER INVOLVED OR WATCHING CITY GOVERNMENT, I
15:14:49 THINK YOU ARE THE HIGHEST FEMALE STAFF PERSON THAT I
15:14:51 CAN RECALL.
15:14:52 IN YOUR RECENT PROMOTION.
15:14:54 YOU ARE WELL DESERVED.
15:14:57 >> I KNOW THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS PRETTY HIGH.
15:14:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, BUT WITH ALL -- I AM TALKING
15:15:00 ABOUT OVER THERE.
15:15:05 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WITH GINA AND JULIA WHO -- WHO --
15:15:08 WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE HAD THEM AS CITY ATTORNEYS, BUT IN
15:15:11 TERMS OF THE ACTUAL ADMINISTRATION, I THINK YOU ARE THE
15:15:16 HIGHEST -- WE HAVE HAD TWO -- COUPLE OF WOMEN MAYORS,
15:15:22 SANDY, PAM, AND NOW THE THIRD -- THE THIRD WOMEN MAYOR
15:15:25 IN TERMS OF THE STAFF, YOU HAVE NOW -- YOU HAVE NOW
15:15:30 RISEN -- YES, WE HAVE, BUT JEAN --
15:15:33 >> YOU PROBABLY ARE THINKING PUBLIC WORKS.
15:15:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JEAN SOME HOW WAS A TOP DOG.
15:15:39 >> SHE IS A TOP DOG TOO.
15:15:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM SORRY.
15:15:42 AI APOLOGIZED.
15:15:43 I MISSED THAT.
15:15:47 >> THE REASON YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IS THE CHART
15:15:48 HAVEN'T COME OUT YET.
15:15:49 YOU WILL BE GETTING THAT TODAY.
15:15:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS MY EXCUSE.
15:15:55 >> IF YOU HAD THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE BETTER INFORMATION.
15:15:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVE MY APOLOGY TWO DAYS IN A
15:15:59 ROW.
15:16:05 BUT ANYWAY WE HAD -- LAST WEEK CARMEGEDDON WITH REGARD
15:16:07 TO THAT CSX MESS.
15:16:12 THANK GOODNESS WE GOT THROUGH IT WITHOUT ANY HORRIFIC
15:16:14 LIFE-THREATENING INJURIES THAT I WAS MADE AWARE OF AND
15:16:17 WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT AND WE GOT
15:16:19 THROUGH IT AND I KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
15:16:22 >> THEY ARE COMING BACK, BUT WE WILL BE BETTER PREPARED
15:16:23 WHEN THEY COME BACK.
15:16:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S HOPE -- LET'S HOPE WHEN THEY
15:16:29 COME BACK, THEY DON'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE.
15:16:33 >> THE NEXT LIST HAS HOWARD AVENUE, DALE MABRY,
15:16:34 KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
15:16:39 A LITTLE -- YES, SO WE ARE -- WE ARE MEETING AND READY
15:16:43 TO BE AS PREPARED AS WE CAN TO GET THOSE AT THE TOP OF
15:16:45 THE ORGANIZATION AT CSX TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE
15:16:50 RESPONSIBLE, REASONABLE AND CONSIDERATE OF THE
15:16:51 SITUATION.
15:16:54 >> IF THEY CAN STAGGER IT AND DO ONE OR MORE AT A TIME
15:16:56 THAT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE.
15:17:00 WHEN THEY DO KENNEDY THAT WILL BE A MESS IN ITSELF.
15:17:03 I ASSUME THEY HAVEN'T DONE KENNEDY YET.
15:17:05 BUT ANYWAY, HAND IN HAND WITH THAT.
15:17:08 WERE YOU HERE A MINUTE AGO WHEN BRAD WAS TALKING ABOUT
15:17:12 THE HOWARD ARMENIA THING AND HIM CLOSING THINGS OFF.
15:17:15 WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOW DEPARTMENTS.NEED TO WORK
15:17:17 CLOSER TOGETHER.
15:17:22 AND, YOU KNOW, YOU AND VIK NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH
15:17:26 NOT JUST IN TERMS OF REROUTING TRAFFIC AND TO SEE THERE
15:17:29 IS A FEASIBILITY ALTERNATIVE TO LEAVE -- TO LEAVE A
15:17:33 LANE OPEN ON HOWARD OR ARMENIA WHEN THEY ARE DOING THAT
15:17:33 DIG.
15:17:34 SO --
15:17:40 >> AND THE TIMING OF THAT HAPPENS, TOO, IS SENSITIVE.
15:17:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST SENT MR. BENNETT A NOTE
15:17:48 ABOUT THAT AND ALSO BRAD, TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE WORKING
15:17:52 24-7 THROUGH THE WEEKEND DURING THAT DIG SO MAYBE IT
15:17:57 DOESN'T HAVE THE -- YOU KNOW, THE HORRIFIC IMPACT THAT
15:17:58 IS OTHERWISE WOULD.
15:18:02 HOW MANY TRIPS A DAY ON THE HOWARD ARMENIA CORE.
15:18:05 IT MUST BE -- EASILY IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS.
15:18:09 >> YES, PROBABLY -- I AM GUESS BEING 30,000.
15:18:10 SOMEWHERE IN THAT REALM.
15:18:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PRETTY BIG.
15:18:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
15:18:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOING TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKING
15:18:29 CITATIONS.
15:18:32 >> MAYBE LEGAL WILL HELP US OUT WITH THAT SUGGESTION.
15:18:33 BUT WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.
15:18:36 AND GET BACK TO YOU.
15:18:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:18:38 >> SURE.
15:18:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
15:18:43 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
15:18:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 94.
15:18:51 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
15:18:55 OCEA WYNN, NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
15:18:58 YOU ASKED STAFF TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TO REPORT ON
15:19:02 T.H.A.N., THE TAMPA HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OF
15:19:05 NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE DECLINE IN THEIR MEMBERSHIP.
15:19:09 WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO DO IS HOLD A SOCIAL OR A
15:19:12 GATHERING FOR T.H.A.N. WHERE WE WILL INVITE ALL OF THE
15:19:17 NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND
15:19:23 INPUT ON THE INVOLVEMENT OR LACK THERE OF T.H.A.N.
15:19:25 WE ARE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS OF THIS.
15:19:29 AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE SOCIAL TO OCCUR SOME TIME
15:19:32 BETWEEN APRIL AND MAY.
15:19:35 WE DID NOT RUSH WITH DOING THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO
15:19:40 GET AS MANY OF THE PRESIDENTS PARTICIPATING AS
15:19:40 POSSIBLE.
15:19:42 BUT WE WANTED TO NOTICE.
15:19:44 GIVE THEM ENOUGH COMMUNICATION IN TERMS OF THE MEETING,
15:19:49 WHAT TO EXPECT, AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF
15:19:50 THEIR INPUT TO US.
15:19:54 AND SO WE WILL KNOW WHAT DIRECTION TO TAKE.
15:19:57 SO I DON'T -- I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
15:20:00 >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
15:20:03 COUNCILMAN GUDES?.
15:20:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO THANK MARAY FOR COMING TO
15:20:09 THAT LAST T.H.A.N. MEETING.
15:20:16 I WENT -- MR. SHELBY AND COUNCILMAN CITRO WAS THERE AND
15:20:18 WE WERE IN THE SUNSHINE LAW.
15:20:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S CORRECT.
15:20:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO WEEKS.
15:20:23 >> SOMETHING LIKE THAT TWO WEEKS AGO.
15:20:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE OBSERVED.
15:20:28 IT IS JUST LIKE I THOUGHT.
15:20:31 WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT OUR SENIORS.
15:20:32 THEY ARE GOING ON.
15:20:36 AND WE GOT TO HAVE NEW BLOOD PUMPING A LITTLE BIT AND
15:20:39 WE SAW THAT THE OTHER NIGHT AND WE WENT, AND I -- I
15:20:43 KIND OF MENTION THAT, I AM GLAD THAT STAFF PICKED UP ON
15:20:43 THAT.
15:20:46 MORAY PICKED UP ON THAT AND A GREAT IDEA MOVING FORWARD
15:20:52 GETTING EVERYONE WHO IS NEW, BECAUSE -- IT DOES CHANGE
15:20:53 YEAR TO YEAR.
15:20:56 AND A GOOD THING TO GO THE ROUTE WE ARE GETTING TO GET
15:20:59 EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND GET THESE NEW IDEAS PUMPING.
15:21:01 AND WILL PROBABLY WORK AT ALL.
15:21:04 THE WHOLE -- IT WILL BE WORKED OUT IF YOU DO THAT AND
15:21:07 YOUNGER PEOPLE ON THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD.
15:21:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
15:21:11 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
15:21:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
15:21:14 I AGREE.
15:21:17 I THINK IT IS GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A SOCIAL.
15:21:20 I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS WHO
15:21:23 AREN'T AFFAIR OF T.H.A.N. AND ITS GREAT HISTORY.
15:21:27 MARGARET VIZZI AND JERRY, REST IN PEACE.
15:21:32 AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT WHO -- WHO PUT IN SO MANY YEARS
15:21:34 DEDICATED TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
15:21:38 BUT IT DEFINITELY NEED REINVIGORATION.
15:21:42 AND WE SAW THAT LAST SPRING WHEN MANY OF US WERE
15:21:44 CAMPAIGNING AND WENT AND VISITED WITH THEM.
15:21:50 PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU LET COUNCIL KNOW AS FAR AS
15:21:53 ADVANCE IF POSSIBLE SO IF IT IS A SOCIAL AND WE HAVE AN
15:21:57 OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AND MAYBE EVEN LET THEM KNOW
15:22:00 THAT -- SOME OF THEIR COUNCILMEMBERS WILL BE THERE.
15:22:02 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE DISCOURAGING OR
15:22:05 ENCOURAGING IN TERMS OF PARTICIPATION.
15:22:09 ALSO I KNOW WE CAN'T PROVIDE ANY BOOZE OR ANYTHING, BUT
15:22:10 MAYBE FOOD.
15:22:13 FOOD IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING TO GET PEOPLE THERE.
15:22:17 SO ANYWAY, MY TWO CENTS.
15:22:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:22:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
15:22:22 >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
15:22:26 ONE IS BECAUSE THE MAYOR, ADMINISTRATION AND CITY
15:22:29 COUNCIL IS PRO NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE
15:22:30 ACTIVISM.
15:22:35 AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T THAT WAY BEFORE TO -- THE WAY IT
15:22:36 IS NOW.
15:22:41 YOU ALL KNOW I HAVE THIS PROGRAM CAFE CON TAMPA.
15:22:45 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WERE FRUSTRATED AND
15:22:50 CHANGED THE NAME FROM HISTORIC HYDE PARK TO CAFE
15:22:53 CON TAMPA, BECAUSE SO MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS
15:22:54 COMING IN.
15:22:58 A DEMAND AND EVERY FRIDAY, BIG CROWD.
15:22:59 THEY ARE INTERESTED.
15:23:01 THEY ARE LOOKING TO GET INVOLVED.
15:23:04 THEY ARE LOOKING FOR CAPACITY BUILDING, AND WE JUST
15:23:06 NEED THE RIGHT PROGRAMMING TO HELP THEM.
15:23:09 AND I THINK TO CONTINUE THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO
15:23:12 HELP THEM AND WORK WITH THEM ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE
15:23:15 IMPORTANT TO THEM.
15:23:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:23:20 I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING T.H.A.N. MEETINGS FOR ABOUT TEN
15:23:25 YEARS, MANY OF PEOPLE HAVE PASSED AWAY, STEVE LABOR,
15:23:29 JERRY FRANKHAUSER, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS SOUTH OF
15:23:31 GANDY, IF YOU REMEMBER HIM.
15:23:33 HE PASSED AWAY.
15:23:35 >> AL STEIN.
15:23:39 >> VICKY PALIET.
15:23:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOW, HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED OVER THE
15:23:42 LAST TEN YEARS.
15:23:45 I SERVED AS NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD
15:23:46 ASSOCIATION.
15:23:48 AND I WAS THERE EVERY MONTH FOR THEIR MEETINGS.
15:23:51 BUT WHEN I WAS LAST IN ATTENDANCE, I BELIEVE IT WAS
15:23:54 LAST YEAR AT UNION STATION, YOU KNOW WE SAT -- IT WAS
15:23:56 JUST A CANDID CONVERSATION.
15:24:00 HOW WILL THIS GROUP CONTINUE FORWARD.
15:24:03 IT WAS -- WELL YOU ARE YOUNG AND WHY DON'T YOU DO AND
15:24:06 WHY DON'T DO YOU THIS AND THE CAPACITY OF THE COUNCIL
15:24:07 MEMBER AND HAPPY TO HELP.
15:24:11 WHY ABOUT YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOU ARE YOUNG AND YOU
15:24:15 KNOW AND YOU DO THESE THINGS.
15:24:19 COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS CAFE CON TAMPA.
15:24:22 AND NOT LIKE T.H.A.N., NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
15:24:25 PRESIDENTS, BUT A GENERAL -- HUGE TURNOUT OF PEOPLE.
15:24:28 SOMETIMES -- MANY TIMES IT IS STANDING ROOM ONLY.
15:24:30 THEY BRING GREAT SPEAKERS.
15:24:33 BRING PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE.
15:24:36 PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED AND MAKE IT TO THE OXFORD
15:24:39 EXCHANGE WHICH IS NOT AN EASIEST PLACE TO PARK.
15:24:42 THEY CHARGE A REASONABLE AMOUNT BUT GET A BREAKFAST
15:24:44 BUFFET AND COFFEE.
15:24:45 EVERYTHING IS DONE RIGHT.
15:24:49 THE POINT IS, IT IS SUCCESSFUL, SUCCESSFUL WEEK AFTER
15:24:49 WEEK.
15:24:53 I HAVE BEGUN GOING OUT THERE AND HANGING OUTSIDE THERE
15:24:57 FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND EVEN THE OLD LOCATIONS A HUGOS.
15:25:00 IT WAS FULL OF PEOPLE.
15:25:02 AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE GUEST SPEAKER SEVERAL
15:25:05 TIMES, BUT COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HE UNDERSTANDS
15:25:06 MARKETING.
15:25:10 HIS CAFE CON TAMPA PROVES THAT HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS
15:25:13 DOING, AND PERHAPS LOOKING AT THAT BUSINESS MODEL AND
15:25:17 APPLYING IT TO T.H.A.N., WHETHER WE DO A SOCIAL OR
15:25:20 WHATEVER IT IS, HE IS DOING SOMETHING RIGHT BECAUSE
15:25:22 PEOPLE EVERY WEEK WHY ATTENDING AND THE CROWDS ARE
15:25:23 GOOD.
15:25:24 MY TWO CENTS.
15:25:26 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
15:25:27 SEEING NONE.
15:25:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:25:29 WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
15:25:31 ON ANOTHER NOTE BECAUSE JEAN DUNCAN WAS HERE AND YOU
15:25:32 ARE HERE.
15:25:36 YESTERDAY I HAD LUNCH WITH A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FROM
15:25:36 ST. PETERSBURG.
15:25:41 SHE SHADE SELF A MAJORITY WOMEN COUNCIL.
15:25:42 HERE WE HAVE ALL MEN.
15:25:45 AND I TOLD HER IN POSITIONS OF POWER AND AUTHORITY
15:25:47 HIGHER UP, WE HAVE YOURSELF.
15:25:49 WE HAVE JEAN DUNCAN.
15:25:51 OUR SENIOR ATTORNEY GINA GRIMES.
15:25:53 WE HAVE OUR MAYOR.
15:25:56 SHE ASKED WHAT IS IT LIKE TO WORK WITH SO MANY WOMEN IN
15:25:57 POWER.
15:25:58 I SAID IT IS WONDERFUL.
15:25:59 THINGS FLOW WELL.
15:26:00 YOU WORK HARD.
15:26:00 WE TRUST YOU.
15:26:03 WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FROM THE MAYOR'S
15:26:03 OFFICE DOWN.
15:26:05 EVERYBODY THAT IS HERE.
15:26:09 YOU KNOW, THE WORLD IS DIFFERENT FROM 50 YEARS AGO,
15:26:13 FROM 20 YEARS AGO TO NOW, BUT WE SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL THE
15:26:15 CITY IS AND THANKS TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND EVERYONE IN
15:26:18 THIS AUDIENCE AND MISS DUNCAN AND THE MAYOR AND WHAT
15:26:18 NOT.
15:26:21 WANT TO LET YOU KNOW A CONVERSATION I HAD YESTERDAY.
15:26:22 ACTUALLY THINGS ARE GREAT.
15:26:24 SO WE APPRECIATE YOU.
15:26:25 THANK YOU.
15:26:25 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
15:26:27 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
15:26:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 75, MR. SHELBY.
15:26:36 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DISTRIBUTED TO YOU FOUR OPTIONS.
15:26:39 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FEBRUARY 6 IN
15:26:42 RESPONSE TO A MEMO FROM CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT
15:26:45 DATED FEBRUARY 28.
15:26:47 HE GAVE COUNCIL FOUR OPTIONS.
15:26:51 WHAT HE ASKED FOR AT THE TIME WAS EIGHT HOURS OF
15:26:51 COUNCIL'S TIME.
15:26:55 AND HE PROVIDED FOUR WAYS OF ACCOMPLISHING THAT.
15:26:59 AND ON FEBRUARY 6, CITY COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT
15:27:05 HIS OPTION TWO, WHICH ARE FOUR TWO-HOUR SESSIONS IN THE
15:27:09 MONTHS OF MARCH, APRIL, MAY AND JUNE TO COINCIDE WITH
15:27:14 THE CURRENT WORKSHOPS AND THE SESSIONS BE SET AT A TIME
15:27:17 CERTAIN OF 10 A.M. GO BEGINNING MARCH 26 WHICH IS THE
15:27:19 MARCH WORK SHOP.
15:27:22 I ASK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDARS IN FRONT OF YOU AND
15:27:25 I MENTION THIS WHEN WE MADE THE MOTION, I BELIEVE, LAST
15:27:25 WEEK.
15:27:31 AND BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT MARCH 26, YOU HAVE INCLUDING
15:27:36 THE COMMENDATION ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX,
15:27:40 SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, 11 ITEMS INCLUDING THE
15:27:42 TWO-HOUR WORKSHOP.
15:27:44 CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE A YOU COMMITMENT TO THE
15:27:48 ADMINISTRATION THAT AT 10:00 ON A WORKSHOP DAY, THEY
15:27:50 WILL GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION TWO HOURS.
15:27:54 THE ADMINISTRATION HAS GIVEN THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY
15:27:57 WILL TAKE THOSE TWO HOURS AND COUNCIL WILL BE DONE WITH
15:28:00 THE WORKSHOP BY NOON.
15:28:07 AND, OF COURSE, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, PREVIOUSLY MADE
15:28:11 MOTION OF CITY COUNCIL, SETTING WORKSHOPS FOR THAT
15:28:11 MORNING.
15:28:15 NOW I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE VERY QUICKLY FOR YOU.
15:28:18 YOU HAVE COMMENDATION FOR POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
15:28:24 AND THEN A COMMENDATION FOR MARLON ANDERSON, 9:00.
15:28:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 26TH.
15:28:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 26TH OF MARCH.
15:28:32 THEN YOU HAVE A 9:00 REPORT FOR REAL ESTATE DIVISION
15:28:35 AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR A DETAILED REPORT ON LAND
15:28:38 BANKING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE POSSIBILITY OF
15:28:41 CREATING AN ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION.
15:28:46 NOW, THE TWO -- MARCH IS THE MOST NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS.
15:28:50 APRIL, WE STILL HAVE TO WORK WITH -- BUT WHEN WE GET
15:28:53 WITH MAY OR JUNE, WE ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
15:28:56 AND LOOKING AT THIS, THE FIRST THING TO DO IS TO LOOK
15:28:59 AT YOUR COMMENDATIONS.
15:29:02 HOW MUCH TIME WILL YOUR COMMENDATIONS TAKE, AND
15:29:07 SUBTRACT THAT TIME UP UNTIL 10:00, BECAUSE I BELIEVE
15:29:10 COUNCIL'S COMMITMENT IS TO BE READY TO HEAR THE
15:29:11 ADMINISTRATION AT 10:00.
15:29:16 BECAUSE IF YOU GO INTO 10:15, 10:30, 10:45, YOU WILL
15:29:21 HAVE SITTING THERE AND NOT BEING OUT AT NOON AT THE
15:29:24 TIME THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE OUT OF THESE CHAMBERS.
15:29:28 THAT BEING SAID, WHAT COUNCIL CAN DO IS KEEP THE
15:29:32 COMMENDATIONS AND CHOOSE WHAT THEY DO UNTIL A DROP-DEAD
15:29:35 TIME OF 10:00 AND TAKE UP ADMINISTRATION.
15:29:39 TOWARD THAT END I HAVE GIVEN FOUR OPTIONS TO CONSIDER.
15:29:42 A WRITTEN REPORT IN LIEU OF A WORK SHOP.
15:29:45 YOU CAN RESCHEDULE THE OTHER WORKSHOPS AS A STAFF
15:29:47 REPORT LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES ON A LATER RECOGNIZE
15:29:50 MEETING AGENDA WITH FEW STAFF REPORTS.
15:29:53 MIND YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP ADDING THE STAFF REPORTS TO
15:29:55 SAY MARCH OR APRIL, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY FILLING
15:29:56 UP.
15:29:57 YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALENDAR.
15:30:01 RESCHEDULE THE WORK SHOP TO 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON ON A
15:30:05 WORKSHOP DAY, IN OTHER WORDS, CREATE AN AFTERNOON
15:30:05 SESSION.
15:30:08 BUT I ASK THAT YOU BE ADVISED TO CLEAR YOUR CONFLICTS
15:30:12 SO YOU CAN BE IN ATTENDANCE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU WERE
15:30:13 THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
15:30:15 A QUORUM IS REQUIRED.
15:30:18 THINGS IF YOU CHOOSE TO SET THEM, PLEASE BE COGNIZANT
15:30:22 TO THE FACT YOU ARE ASKING STAFF TO APPEAR AND IF
15:30:25 COUNCIL IS NOT PREPARED TO BE PREPARED AT 1:30.
15:30:28 THEN MY RECOMMENDATION IS DON'T SET IT.
15:30:30 BUT IF YOU DO, YOU MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO THE
15:30:33 ADMINISTRATION YOU WILL BE THERE HEAR THE PRESENTATION
15:30:33 AT 1:30.
15:30:37 THE OTHER OPTION -- THE LAST OPTION TO RESCHEDULE THE
15:30:42 ITEM TO WORK SHOPS IN JULY AND BEYOND, AND FOR THAT
15:30:46 PURPOSE, YOU REFER TO THE COUNCIL'S CALENDAR TO MANAGE
15:30:50 THE NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS FOR THOSE MONTHS.
15:30:53 AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW IS A TASK TO CLEAR
15:30:56 YOUR MARCH AND APRIL TO THE TWO-HOUR --
15:31:00 >> MR. SHELBY, ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
15:31:04 YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THE TOPICS LAND BANKING, AND I CAN
15:31:08 TELL THAT YOU IS A TOPIC STUDIED BY THE HOUSING
15:31:11 AFFORDABILITY TEAM AND TRYING TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO
15:31:14 THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND
15:31:16 OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIALS TIFFS.
15:31:19 THAT MAY BE A TOPIC THAT COULD BE EITHER REMOVED FROM
15:31:23 THE AGENDA OR DELAYED SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT
15:31:26 IS BEING STUDIED ALREADY BY THE --
15:31:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT THE DELAYED.
15:31:30 DELAYED TIME.
15:31:32 WHAT THE TIME FRAME?
15:31:34 >> MY POINT IS IT IS ALREADY BEING STUDIED BY STAFF IN
15:31:37 ORDER TO DETERMINE HOW IT CAN BECOME PART OF THE
15:31:41 AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
15:31:45 SO IT MAY THAT BE WE DON'T EVEN NEED AN AGENDA ITEM
15:31:48 RIGHT NOW, AND WE CAN JUST -- WHEN WE HAVE SOME
15:31:51 INITIATIVES TO REPORT ON, WE CAN TELL YOU HOW THAT IS
15:31:54 BEING INCORPORATED INTO THOSE INITIATIVES.
15:31:57 >> SO IF YOU LIKE IF YOU MAY MAKE THE SUGGESTION.
15:31:58 IF THAT IS THE CASE.
15:32:01 IF WOULD YOU LIKE AN UPDATE FOR THAT YOU CAN REQUEST A
15:32:04 LESS THAN FIVE-MINUTE STAFF REPORT OR A WRITTEN REPORT
15:32:08 AT SOME POINT IN TIME AT A LATER DATE AND HAVE IT
15:32:11 BROUGHT BACK TO THE AGENDA OR CHOOSE A DATE UNDER THE
15:32:13 OTHER OPTIONS.
15:32:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE IS SAYING THEY ARE REVIEWING IT.
15:32:16 THE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
15:32:19 I DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH PUSHING IT BACK, BUT I WANT TO
15:32:23 MAKE SURE WHEN IT DOES COME BACK YOU WILL ASK QUESTION
15:32:25 BECAUSE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT POLICIES THEY ARE TRYING
15:32:29 TO TAKE PLACE VERSUS AN ORDINANCE.
15:32:30 TALK ABOUT POLICY AND ORDINANCE.
15:32:33 WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN THAT COMES BACK WE HAVE A CHANCE
15:32:34 TO DISCUSS THAT.
15:32:36 YOU CAN GET ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION COME IN AND SAY WE
15:32:38 ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
15:32:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION.
15:32:44 AGAIN THESE ARE SUGGESTIONS AND COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE,
15:32:45 WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
15:32:48 YOU CAN ASK MISS ZELMAN HOW LONG THE ADMINISTRATION
15:32:52 NEEDS TO COME BACK WITH A WRITTEN REPORT, A BRIEF ONE,
15:32:56 AND COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHEN TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA A
15:32:58 WORKSHOP OR STAFF REPORT.
15:33:02 >> WITHOUT GIVING AN OFF-THE-CUFF REPORT NOW.
15:33:09 THE CONCEPT OF LAND BANKING IS SIMPLY THE CITY USING
15:33:13 THE TOOLS HAVE THE ACQUIRE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY WE
15:33:15 ALREADY HAVE, SURPLUS PROPERTY.
15:33:19 PROPERTY WE ACQUIRE THROUGH FORECLOSURE AND HAVING THAT
15:33:22 FOR THEN LATER IDENTIFIED PURPOSE.
15:33:26 AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING NOW AS -- AT USING SOME
15:33:29 OF THE CITIES CURRENTLY BANKED AND FUTURE BANKED
15:33:34 PROPERTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PURPOSES.
15:33:38 SO I AM NOT SURE -- HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU CAN
15:33:40 GIVE COUNCIL AN UPDATE?
15:33:42 >> I THINK WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THOSE
15:33:46 INITIATIVES THIS SUMMER, I THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
15:33:50 PUSHING IT OFF UNTIL.
15:33:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT A MOTION TO DEAL WITH A LOT
15:33:55 OF THESE AT ONCE.
15:33:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:34:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH REGARD TO MARCH 26, I DON'T
15:34:03 KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING PRESSING WITH REGARD TO
15:34:06 MARLON ANDERSON.
15:34:09 >> THAT CAN TAKE JUST FIVE MINUTES FRANKLY.
15:34:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEAVE MARLON ALONE.
15:34:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT MONTH.
15:34:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEAVE MARLON ALONE AND WITH REGARD
15:34:26 TO THE FOLLOWING ITEM, THE LAND BANKING WORKSHOP, THE,
15:34:30 THE WORKSHOP THAT STARTS CAN CAROL POST AND SPEAKS TO
15:34:30 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
15:34:36 >> JUST A SUBSTANTIAL SUBSTANTIVE PROJECT.
15:34:41 THOSE TWO AND THE URBAN VILLAGES OF MY MOTION.
15:34:46 AND -- AND ALSO THE -- THE NEXT ONE WHICH IS FLOODING
15:34:50 AND EVACUATION SOUTH OF GANDY WHICH SHOULDN'T BE
15:34:54 DEALING WITH -- WITH THE LITIGATION ANYWAY.
15:34:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW DO YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH IT?
15:34:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOING TO LUMP THEM ALL
15:35:00 TOGETHER IN ONE SECOND.
15:35:05 AND FINALLY, THE 10:30 ONE WHICH IS CODE ENFORCEMENT.
15:35:09 AND I WILL PROPOSE MOVING ALL THOSE TO THE JULY
15:35:11 WORKSHOP.
15:35:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN'T BE DONE, SIR.
15:35:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT?
15:35:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN'T BE DONE.
15:35:18 ARE YOU GOING TO GO INTO THE AFTERNOON THAT DAY.
15:35:21 THE FIRST THREE THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY SAID I BELIEVE
15:35:24 UNTIL THE 30TH OF JULY ARE VERY SUBSTANTIVE IN-DEPTH
15:35:28 MATTERS RECORDING PLANNING AND ZONING.
15:35:28 THE QUESTION OFF THIS.
15:35:35 I CAN SEE YOU ADDING ONE OR TWO, PERHAPS TO -- TO JULY,
15:35:38 MAYBE ONE, BUT ALL OF THEM?
15:35:39 NO, SIR.
15:35:40 NOT REALISTIC.
15:35:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS EVERYBODY -- I MEAN, I -- I GUESS
15:35:45 -- I LOOK AT NUMBER THREE.
15:35:47 WE TALK ABOUT THESE ITEMS.
15:35:51 NUMBER THREE -- THURSDAY IS OUR DAY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF
15:35:53 ANYONE IS ABLE TO --
15:35:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TAKE MY TENTATIVE MOTION AND MOVE
15:35:59 THEM ALL INTO AUGUST WHICH RIGHT NOW IS VIRTUALLY
15:36:05 EMPTY.
15:36:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
15:36:13 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:36:19 ON MY CALENDAR I BLOCK OUT ALL DAY ON THURSDAY.
15:36:21 >> HERE IS THE ISSUE WITH WORKSHOPS AND SOMEWHERE DOWN
15:36:25 THE LINE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A DAY LIKE TODAY, WE ARE
15:36:28 NOW LET'S SAY 3:30 AND WE START THIS MORNING.
15:36:31 THAT IS WELL AND GOOD BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE END OF THE
15:36:31 DAY.
15:36:34 WHEN YOU ARE IN A WORKSHOP DAY OR CRA DAY, JUST
15:36:39 REMEMBER AT 5:01 P.M., YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE A WHOLE
15:36:42 NIGHT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS LET'S SAY ON
15:36:44 MARCH 26.
15:36:51 YOU HAVE SEVEN PLAN AMENDMENTS AND THREE SU2S.
15:36:54 SO IT'S -- AND THAT MAY CHANGE OVER TIME.
15:36:56 I THINK THAT IS PRETTY FULL.
15:36:59 JUST A REMINDER -- AND THERE HAVE BEEN A TIME
15:37:03 PREVIOUSLY TO THE GREAT RECESSION IN 2008, THAT CITY
15:37:07 COUNCIL WOULD START AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING AND MAYBE IF
15:37:10 THEY WERE LUCKY TAKE A BREAK FROM 5 TO 6 AND WORK UNTIL
15:37:12 11:00 AT NIGHT.
15:37:16 AND SO --
15:37:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MY MOTION IS TO MOVE THOSE THAT
15:37:21 I JUST IDENTIFIED --
15:37:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO AUGUST?
15:37:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO THE AUGUST DATE.
15:37:27 THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT NONE OF THEM ARE PRESSING
15:37:31 THAT I CAN SEE.
15:37:36 AND LEAVE -- LEAVE THEM AT THE TIME THAT THEY ARE
15:37:39 SPOKEN TO ALREADY.
15:37:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
15:37:42 DINGFELDER.
15:37:43 A SECOND?
15:37:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
15:37:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION.
15:37:48 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
15:37:50 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY FROM A COMMUNICATION POINT
15:37:54 OF VIEW, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE -- ANYONE SHOULD EVER
15:37:58 GIVE A TWO-HOUR PRESENTATION ON ANYTHING.
15:38:01 MAYBE AN ATTORNEY PRESENTING IN COURT, BUT IT IS NOT --
15:38:03 IT IS NOT EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION TO PRESENT FOR TWO
15:38:06 HOURS.
15:38:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS GIVE AND TAKE AND NOT
15:38:10 STRAIGHT PRESENTATION.
15:38:12 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST -- I SUGGEST
15:38:15 THESE ONLY BE AN HOUR AND THE PRESENTATION NOT BE MORE
15:38:22 THAN 15 MINUTES AND THE REST OF IT Q & A.
15:38:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE OTHER VARIABLE.
15:38:25 >>BILL CARLSON: OTHERWISE THE PRESENTATION FILMS THE
15:38:26 TIME.
15:38:32 A LOT OF VARIABLES AND EVERYBODY WILL NEED TO BE
15:38:35 CONCISE AND POWERPOINT AFTER POWERPOINT AFTER
15:38:40 POWERPOINT AND IT WON'T BE IMPACT.
15:38:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS A TIME THAT CITY COUNCIL SET
15:38:45 THIS FOR TIME CERTAIN AND AS AN HOUR.
15:38:48 WHAT COMPLICATED THAT, COUNCIL STARTED TO ALLOWING
15:38:51 PUBLIC COMMENT AT WORKSHOPS.
15:38:54 AND THERE WAS A TIME PUBLIC COMMENT WAS NOT TAKEN ON
15:38:57 WORKSHOP DAYS AND NEIGHBORHOODS CAME IN AND ASKED THAT
15:39:00 WE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
15:39:04 HEAR WHAT STAFF HAS TO SAY BEFORE WE COMMENT AND BEFORE
15:39:06 YOU MAKE ANY MOTIONS TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
15:39:06 IT.
15:39:10 THAT IS THE BIG VARIABLE WITH WORKSHOPS NOW, YOU DON'T
15:39:12 KNOW HOW FULL THIS ROOM IS GOING TO BE ON ANY
15:39:13 PARTICULAR ISSUE.
15:39:16 FOR INSTANCE, DISCUSSION AS YOU SAY -- IF YOU LOOK AT
15:39:18 THE APRIL DATE ON THE SAME DAY YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION
15:39:23 OF THE ISSUE OF SUL VERY SPRINGS AND THE ISSUE OFFER
15:39:26 BAYSHORE, ALL IN ONE DAY.
15:39:28 HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ALONE WILL BE
15:39:30 HERE ON EACH OF THOSE ISSUES.
15:39:34 AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONTEMPLATE
15:39:38 WHEN THEY SET THESE WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE TIME MANAGEMENT.
15:39:41 IT IS VERY HARD FOR STAFF OR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHEN
15:39:45 YOU SET SOMETHING FOR 9:00 OR 10:30, WHEN ULTIMATELY
15:39:47 WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
15:39:51 AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME COUNCIL CHOOSES TO REORDER
15:39:54 THEM, ALL CONCEPT WHERE THEY ARE IN THE AGENDA IS OUT
15:40:00 THE WINDOW, AND YOU END UP HAVING STAFF AND PUBLIC
15:40:00 THERE.
15:40:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY WORKSHOPS --
15:40:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:40:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ADMINISTRATION IS REQUESTING --
15:40:14 THE ADMINISTRATION IS REQUESTING EIGHT-HOUR WORKSHOPS.
15:40:16 EIGHT HOURS OF PRESENTATION AND QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
15:40:18 AND INTERACTION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IS MY
15:40:19 UNDERSTANDING.
15:40:21 BUT EIGHT HOURS.
15:40:22 COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED WITH FOUR OPTIONS.
15:40:26 I WAS OUT SICK ON FEBRUARY 6, AND COUNCIL DECIDED TO
15:40:29 ADD FOUR TWO-HOUR SESSIONS.
15:40:34 RATHER THAN -- HERE IS WHAT HIS OPTIONS, FOUR TWO-HOUR
15:40:37 SPECIAL CALL SECTIONS ON SEPARATE DAYS AND THE OPTION
15:40:41 TWO, WAS IN THE CURRENT SCHEDULE OF WORKSHOPS OR TWO
15:40:45 FOUR-HOUR SPECIAL CALL SESSIONS IN MARCH AND APRIL AND
15:40:48 IN ALL ONE DAY FOUR HOURS BEFORE LUNCH AND AFTER LUNCH.
15:40:51 ANY OTHER OPTION WITH A TOTAL OF EIGHT HOURS AND
15:40:53 COUNCIL SETTLED ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE AND WE HAD TO
15:40:59 CLEAR -- CITY COUNCIL HAS A CLEAR ITS CALENDAR TO CLEAR
15:41:00 ITS MOTION.
15:41:03 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:41:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE
15:41:10 SAYING AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT -- JUST TO HEAR ONE
15:41:13 DEPARTMENT HEAD DRONE ON TWO STRAIGHT WITH POWER
15:41:13 POINTS.
15:41:14 I AGREE WITH YOU.
15:41:16 IT DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH A WHOLE LOT.
15:41:20 THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT FROM MR. BENNETT WAS -- LET'S
15:41:22 SAY IN THE ENTIRE EIGHT HOURS.
15:41:27 LET'S SAY WE HAVE 16 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR SUB
15:41:28 DEPARTMENTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
15:41:31 THAT IS A HALF HOUR EACH.
15:41:32 THAT IS NOT A WHOLE LOT.
15:41:36 AND PART OF THE REASON THAT JOHN BENNETT EXPLAINED TO
15:41:40 ME WAS -- AND MAYBE HE SAID IT ALL OF COUNCIL, NOT ONLY
15:41:44 DID HE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS NOW AT THIS PLACE
15:41:50 BECAUSE SOME OF US ARE NEW OR RETREADS, BUT ALSO
15:41:55 BECAUSE IT IS SORT OF WILL LEAD INTO THE BUDGE PROCESS.
15:41:58 SO THIS WILL GIFT DEPARTMENTS A GOOD, LET'S SAY, A HALF
15:42:02 HOUR TO 45 MINUTES EACH TO BE ABLE TO REALLY SAY THIS
15:42:06 IS WHAT WE DO AND THIS IS WHY WE DO IT AND THAT SORT OF
15:42:09 THING AS SORT OF THE PREBUDGET PROCESS.
15:42:11 I THINK IT IS TIME WELL SPENT.
15:42:14 AND I THINK WE SHOULD ACCOMMODATE IT FRANKLY.
15:42:17 AND LIKE I SAID, THESE OTHER ITEMS ARE IMPORTANT AND
15:42:18 THEY ARE NOT AS TIME SENSITIVE.
15:42:23 AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY MOTION PASSED A MINUTE AGO.
15:42:27 >> SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND --
15:42:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE MISJUDGED THIS.
15:42:32 I LOOK AT -- IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION
15:42:36 COMING TO US ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THESE DIFFERENT
15:42:40 DEPARTMENTS, TO ME, THESE ARE COUNCIL DAYS FOR DOING
15:42:45 THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL DAYS ON THURSDAY
15:42:48 MAYBE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN -- THIS IS MY OPINION, A
15:42:51 COUPLE OF SPECIAL MEETING DAYS THAT ARE NOT ON COUNCIL
15:42:54 DAYS THAT WE CAN REALLY SIT AND DISSECT WHAT THEY ARE
15:42:56 SAYING, WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
15:42:59 TO JUST GO TO A MEETING AND WE SAY A FEW MINUTES HERE
15:43:03 AND THERE, ARE WE REALLY GETTING THE FULL IMPACT ON
15:43:06 LOOKING AT THE ITEMS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE NEW
15:43:08 BUDGET, THE PROCESS OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
15:43:13 I FEEL THAT NOW LOOKING AT ALL THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ON
15:43:16 A NONCOUNCIL DAY WITH A SPECIAL -- SPECIAL MEETING AND
15:43:19 REFERENCE TO THE ADMINISTRATION REQUEST TO GO OVER ALL
15:43:21 OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND ADMINISTRATION IN REFERENCE
15:43:23 TO THE BUDGET.
15:43:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN.
15:43:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:43:31 AND WE HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATION AND SEEING CHANGES
15:43:37 DONE EVERY DAY, WHETHER BE A NEW CODE -- A NEW CRA
15:43:37 HEAD.
15:43:40 WE ARE SEEING A NEW ECONOMIC HEAD.
15:43:45 WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT A NEW RESILIENCY OFFICER AND
15:43:47 SEEING THESE CHANGES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
15:43:49 I THINK THAT IS NECESSARY.
15:43:51 NOW YOU ARE TALKING, MR. GUDES.
15:43:55 I PERSONALLY FEEL THIS SHOULD BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE DAY
15:43:58 SO WE CAN TAKE THE TIME AND ASK THE QUESTIONS AND FIND
15:44:02 OUT THE INFORMATION; HOWEVER, I BELIEVE WE -- WE AGREED
15:44:05 TO NUMBER TWO.
15:44:09 AGAIN, IT IS COUNCIL -- I WANT TO BE CLEAR I WANT TO
15:44:12 HEAR ALL THE INFORMATION AND TAKE THE TIME TO ASK THE
15:44:16 QUESTIONS AND TO OUR COUNCIL'S POINTS, HEAR FROM THE
15:44:17 COMMUNITY.
15:44:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME JUST SAY THIS, COUNCIL, WITH
15:44:24 REGARD TO THE DEPARTMENTAL BRIEFINGS, IF IT ENDS AT
15:44:27 NOON, IF YOU WANT TO END AT NOON, THERE IS NO
15:44:30 OBLIGATION TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT IF IT IS
15:44:33 COUNCIL'S DECISION TO NOT COMMENT ON IT SO YOU WOULD
15:44:33 END AT NOON.
15:44:35 THEY CAN COME BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING.
15:44:39 THERE WILL BE NO OFFICIAL ACTION TAKEN AT THESE
15:44:42 BRIEFINGS UNLESS COUNCIL WISHES TO BUT I DON'T BELIEVE
15:44:43 THERE IS A PURPOSE OF IT.
15:44:47 AND I SHOULD SAY ONE MORE THING, COUNCIL, YOU LOOK AT
15:44:52 ITEM -- LUKE AT THE ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOP FOR MARCH 26,
15:44:56 AND YOU TELL ME HOW WITH PUBLIC INPUT TO THIS YOU ARE
15:44:58 GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS BY NOON.
15:45:01 AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE LOOKING AT -- AND I
15:45:05 DON'T WANT TO USE -- DON'T WANT TO USE AN ANALOGY, BUT
15:45:08 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE BY NOON.
15:45:10 AS IT NOW STANDS.
15:45:16 ULTIMATELY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO -- TO LOOK AT IT
15:45:20 IRRESPECTIVE IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE DATES OF YOUR
15:45:22 PREVIOUS MOTION TO RECONSIDER YOUR PREVIOUS MOTION AND
15:45:26 I AM CONCERNED -- NONE OF MY BUSINESS BUT YOUR BUSINESS
15:45:29 AND YOUR CHAIR AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ARE NOT PRESENTS
15:45:31 IF YOU MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY.
15:45:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
15:45:34 >>BILL CARLSON: WITH MY TWO COLLEAGUES.
15:45:37 I WOULD RATHER SPEND ONE WHOLE DAY AND SPEND THE TIME
15:45:40 WE NEED AND NOT INTERRUPT EVERYTHING ELSE.
15:45:41 TOO MUCH ELSE GOING ON.
15:45:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY OPINION REAL QUICK.
15:45:46 I TREAT THIS AS A FULL-TIME JOB.
15:45:49 I AM GRATEFUL THAT I HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO WHATEVER.
15:45:52 IF WE HAVE TO BE HERE ON A SUNDAY -- I KNOW, I'LL BE
15:45:53 HERE ON A SUNDAY.
15:45:57 IF WE HAVE TO BE HERE ALL DAY.
15:45:58 WHEN WE CAMPAIGNED.
15:46:00 I CAMPAIGNED.
15:46:01 I WORK FOR THE PEOPLE.
15:46:03 I'M HERE FOR YOU.
15:46:04 HOWEVER LONG.
15:46:06 2:00 IN THE MORNING FOR REZONINGS AND NIGHT MEETING.
15:46:08 WE DON'T GET PAID MORE.
15:46:10 WE DON'T GET PAID LESS.
15:46:11 I AM FLEXIBLE.
15:46:14 I AM HAPPY WITH WHATEVER THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD GOES
15:46:14 WITH.
15:46:18 I AM OPEN AND DEDICATED TO THIS.
15:46:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:46:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR,
15:46:25 BUT I THINK AND TO GET TO MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION.
15:46:28 I WOULD LIKE TO REOPEN IT TO CONSIDERATION OF HAVING A
15:46:30 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WHERE WE CAN MEET AND REALLY
15:46:32 HEAR WHAT IS GOING ON.
15:46:36 AND HEAR THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS
15:46:39 ARE SAYING AND DOING SO WE CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT
15:46:43 WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE OUR CONCERNS.
15:46:46 I THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE DAY VERSUS TRYING TO THROW
15:46:50 THINGS OFF THE CALENDAR AND ADD MUCH.
15:46:54 THAT IS NOT PRODUCTIVE AND ENTERTAIN MR. DINGFELDER'S
15:46:55 MOTION.
15:46:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL WITHDRAW THE MOTION IF THE
15:47:01 SECOND MR. CITRO.
15:47:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL SECOND COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:47:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND WITHDRAWN BY
15:47:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:47:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MINDFUL -- THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT
15:47:19 AWARE OF IT UNLESS THEY ARE WATCHING IT LIVE.
15:47:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY ARE WATCHING.
15:47:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION -- I CAN PRINT OUT THE
15:47:25 FOUR OPTIONS.
15:47:29 YOU SAY YOU WANT EIGHT HOURS OR TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS.
15:47:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS.
15:47:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FINE.
15:47:36 TOO MUCH INFORMATION COMING IN AT ONCE, YOU DON'T PAY
15:47:38 ATTENTION AS MUCH.
15:47:40 YOU ARE NOT AS FOCUSED.
15:47:41 WHATEVER.
15:47:44 YOU GET TIRED.
15:47:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAKE A -- BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT
15:47:50 THURSDAY WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND COME UP WITH
15:47:52 THE TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS AND WE WILL SHIFT EVERYTHING
15:47:53 NEXT WEEK.
15:47:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I ASK THAT THIS ITEM THEN -- CAN
15:48:02 WE MAKE THE MOTION THEN FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO
15:48:05 RECONSIDER ITS FEBRUARY 6 MOTION.
15:48:09 NOT DO THAT TODAY, BUT THEN TO -- TO CONSIDER OPTION
15:48:11 THREE INSTEAD.
15:48:13 AND SET THAT -- AND COUNCIL LOOKING AT NEXT WEEK'S
15:48:16 CALENDAR, THAT IS A CRA DAY.
15:48:19 YOU HAVE A -- A 6 P.M. MEETING.
15:48:23 WOULD LIKE TO SET THIS AT 5:30 P.M. TO HANDLE THAT.
15:48:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T PREFER TO DO IT ON A OF THE
15:48:26 DAY PEOPLE.
15:48:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO, JUST TO COME BACK AND INFORM
15:48:35 THE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT COUNCIL NOW WISHES TO CONSIDER
15:48:39 OPTION THREE, WHICH A TWO FOUR-HOUR SPECIAL CALL
15:48:42 SECTION IN THE MONTH OF MARCH AND APRIL AND MAY HAVE TO
15:48:44 RECONSIDER DEPENDING ON THE TIMING NOW.
15:48:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAY HAVE TO TAKE --
15:48:48 [INAUDIBLE]
15:48:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT WILL TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
15:48:57 LEAVE IT AT 6:00 AND COME BACK US TO AT 6:00.
15:48:59 >> I AM CONCERNED YOU MAY HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE
15:49:03 AND MAY HAVE AS LONG AS A DISCUSSION --
15:49:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BASICALLY.
15:49:07 LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT.
15:49:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
15:49:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WITHDREW THAT OTHER MOTION.
15:49:14 THE MOTION IS TO DIRECT WITH MR. SHELBY TO WORK WITH
15:49:17 THE ADMINISTRATION AND CLERK'S OFFICE TO COME BACK WITH
15:49:23 TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS THAT ARE NOT THURSDAYS TO ADDRESS
15:49:27 MR. BENNETT'S REQUEST.
15:49:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
15:49:29 DINGFELDER.
15:49:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COME BACK 6 P.M. NEXT THURSDAY
15:49:34 NIGHT.
15:49:36 >> A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
15:49:39 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
15:49:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MONDAYS WORK BEST.
15:49:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
15:49:43 EYES?
15:49:45 ANY OPPOSED.
15:49:48 -- AYES?
15:49:49 SHELBY SHE WILL ONE LAST ITEM.
15:49:54 WE CAN LET THIS QUESTION NOW OR PLAY OUT.
15:49:57 LET'S BE COGNIZANT AND WHAT THE WORKSHOP ON MARCH 26
15:50:00 LOOKS LIKE WITH ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THERE BECAUSE
15:50:02 YOU WILL NOT GET OUT BY NOON.
15:50:05 AND EVEN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
15:50:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DRINK MORE COFFEE THAT DAY.
15:50:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
15:50:11 THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
15:50:14 NEW INFORMATION AND INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW
15:50:15 BUSINESS.
15:50:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
15:50:19 >>BILL CARLSON: THING IS AN IMPORTANT ONE.
15:50:22 I TALK TO THE DOT THE LAST FEW DAYS.
15:50:25 I THINK THEY MET WITH ALL YOU HAVE YOU.
15:50:28 AND THEY ARE UNDER INSTRUCTIONS FROM BACK WHEN LISA
15:50:33 MONTIONE WAS ON COUNCIL TO COME BACK QUARTERLY TO TALK
15:50:38 TO THE CRA BOARD ABOUT TBX.
15:50:41 AND THOSE ISSUES STILL CONTINUE.
15:50:46 BUT I SAID TO THEM, I THINK WE ARE TAKING TOO SMALL OF
15:50:47 A VIEW OF THIS.
15:50:50 PART BECAUSE I AM IN SOUTH TAMPA.
15:50:53 A COUPLE OF YOU ARE CITYWIDE ALSO.
15:50:57 BUT TALKING ABOUT TBX DOESN'T COVER TRANSPORTATION
15:50:59 ISSUES AROUND THE CITY.
15:51:02 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO -- AND IS WITH D.O.T.'S
15:51:07 BLESSING AND SESSION ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO, IN THE CRA
15:51:10 MEETING, CANCEL THAT REQUEST, AND THEN INSTEAD MAKE A
15:51:14 MOTION TODAY TO SET UP A QUARTERLY UPDATE BY D.O.T.
15:51:16 WHERE THEY WILL TALK ABOUT ALL TRANSPORTATION IN THE
15:51:19 CITY, NOT JUST TBX.
15:51:23 CAN INCLUDE TBX BUT NOT JUST THAT.
15:51:26 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT FDOT WORK WITH THE
15:51:29 CITY OF TAMPA STAFF TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY UPDATES ON
15:51:32 CURRENT AND PLANNED PROJECTS THAT MAY IMPACT OUR
15:51:34 COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
15:51:36 THE UPDATE SHOULD COVER INNOVATION AND TRANSPORTATION
15:51:39 ALTERNATIVES AS WELL AS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
15:51:43 THE UPDATES WILL BE GIVEN BY FDOT STAFF AND JOINTLY
15:51:46 WITH CITY STAFF.
15:51:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND.
15:51:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
15:51:52 DOES THAT COME BANG WITH A RECOMMENDATION WHEN THAT
15:51:53 WILL BE.
15:51:54 YOU WANT QUARTERLY.
15:51:56 >>BILL CARLSON: QUARTERLY.
15:51:58 I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WILL START.
15:52:01 >> QUESTION A WORKSHOP DAY AND HOW LONG DOCTOR HOW LONG
15:52:03 WILL THE PRESENTATION BE?
15:52:08 >>BILL CARLSON: CRA TAKES A SMALL -- TBX --
15:52:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A CRA MOTION?
15:52:12 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
15:52:15 IF THIS PASS, I WILL MAKE A MOTION DURING THE CRA
15:52:21 MEETING TO END THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS ONE REPLACES IT.
15:52:21 [INAUDIBLE]
15:52:27 YES.
15:52:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK YOU CAN DO IT THIS WAY.
15:52:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND
15:52:39 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
15:52:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OR DO YOU WANT A RECOMMENDATION FROM
15:52:46 THE ADMINISTRATION?
15:52:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE SIR.
15:52:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU ALSO REQUIRE FD, TO --
15:53:00 [INAUDIBLE]
15:53:02 >>BILL CARLSON: I SUGGESTED THIS AND THEY THOUGHT IT
15:53:05 WAS A GREAT IDEA AND THEY WOULD WELCOME IT.
15:53:07 JUST A SCHEDULING ISSUE.
15:53:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FDOT LIKES COMING.
15:53:12 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
15:53:13 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
15:53:15 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
15:53:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
15:53:20 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
15:53:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE.
15:53:26 COUNCIL, YOU TALKED ABOUT PROTECTING THE HOUSE.
15:53:28 AND I THINK WE COME TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE
15:53:32 SURE WE ARE PROTECTING EVERYONE'S HOUSE WITHIN THE
15:53:32 CITY.
15:53:35 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO
15:53:37 LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF AN INDEPENDENT COMPLIANCE
15:53:44 OFFICER FOR THE PURPOSE OF RFPS, RFQS AND WMBES TO BE
15:53:47 ASSIGNED TO THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
15:53:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:53:51 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
15:53:52 ALL IN FAVOR.
15:53:56 ANYTHING ELSE SIR?
15:53:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW UP AND INFORM
15:54:00 COUNCIL?
15:54:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
15:54:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND FOLLOW
15:54:05 UP.
15:54:09 AND COME BACK -- BRING IT BACK ON THE FUTURE AGENDA?
15:54:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
15:54:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:54:12 ANYTHING ELSE SIR.
15:54:15 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
15:54:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TWO ITEMS.
15:54:22 ONE A FOLLOW-UP TO MR. THE PRESENTATION.
15:54:27 I WOULD LIKE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE POSSIBILITY
15:54:34 OF USING SOME PIPES MONEY TO FUND SOME ADDITIONAL WMBE
15:54:34 OFFICERS.
15:54:41 SO I WOULD LIKE A -- A REPORT BACK -- A WRITTEN REPORT
15:54:46 IS FINE FROM MR. BAIRD OR ANY -- OR ANYBODY IN THE
15:54:49 ADMINISTRATION AT THE -- BY THE MAY -- BY THE MAY 7
15:54:52 REGULAR MEETING.
15:54:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:54:57 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
15:55:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:55:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WILL BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS
15:55:05 JUST AS A WRITTEN REPORT.
15:55:10 AND THEN SECONDLY, LET ME SEE IF I CAN READ MY SCRIBBLE
15:55:11 HERE.
15:55:15 WITH REGARDS TO THE DOT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
15:55:20 THAT THIS COUNCIL -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
15:55:24 THIS COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE TOLLING OF
15:55:30 ANY INTERSTATE LANES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
15:55:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
15:55:32 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
15:55:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES?
15:55:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
15:55:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
15:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE TWO MOTIONS.
15:55:42 SINCE HE IS THE CRA CHAIR.
15:55:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
15:55:49 BUT HE IS NOT HERE.
15:55:49 [INAUDIBLE]
15:56:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT I AM THE VICE-CHAIR, YES.
15:56:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE THE VICE-CHAIR.
15:56:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM THE VICE-CHAIR --
15:56:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOWN TO AL -- I AM IN CHARGE -- AL
15:56:26 HAYES.
15:56:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE VICE-CHAIR OF FINANCE.
15:56:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MOVE TO BE TEMPORARY CHAIR.
15:56:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:56:45 I HAVE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION FOR TAMPA
15:56:48 PRIDE TO BE GIVEN TO THE TAMPA PRIDE DIVERSITY PARADE
15:56:51 ON MARCH 28.
15:56:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A SECOND MADE BY COUNCILMAN
15:56:53 MANISCALCO.
15:56:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:56:58 AYE.
15:57:01 ANY OPPOSED?
15:57:02 NEXT?
15:57:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS VERY SPECIAL BECAUSE OF MY
15:57:06 VERY SPECIAL AIDE, LISA.
15:57:10 NATIONAL COLON CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND AN ANNUAL
15:57:12 OBSERVATION OF THE UNITED STATES IN THE MONTH OF MARCH
15:57:18 TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF COLORECTAL CANCER INSIDE BY
15:57:22 PRESIDENT CLINTON FEBRUARY 29,2000.
15:57:26 COLORECTAL CANCER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AN ESTIMATED
15:57:31 50,000 DEATHS EACH EAR AND COLON CANCER AWARENESS, THE
15:57:32 DEATH RATES HAVE BEEN DROPPING.
15:57:36 DRESS IN BLUE DAY IS FRIDAY MARCH 6 TOMORROW.
15:57:39 AND LET'S ALLIES JOIN EVERYWHERE TO END COLORECTAL
15:57:41 CANCER.
15:57:44 THIS YEAR MORE THAN 147,000 PEOPLE WILL BE DIAGNOSED
15:57:47 WITH THIS HIGHLY PREVENTABLE DISEASE.
15:57:50 DRESSING IN BLUE, YOU WILL JOIN 1.4 MILLION CANCER
15:57:52 PATIENTS AND SURVIVORS LIVING TODAY.
15:57:54 WE GO BLUE FOR THEM, THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR
15:57:55 COMMUNITY.
15:57:59 SOME FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO HAD THIS. AUDREY HEPBURN, VINCE
15:58:04 LOMBARDI, JACKIE GLEASON, RONALD REAGAN, ELIZABETH
15:58:09 MONTGOMERY AND ROBIN GIBBS OF THE BEEGEES.
15:58:11 I AM IN FALLS BLUE AND I WILL BE WEARING BLUE TOMORROW
15:58:14 AND ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY WATCHING AND EVERYBODY THERE
15:58:15 TO DO SO.
15:58:15 THAT'S IT.
15:58:19 CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
15:58:25 A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND A SECOND.
15:58:26 THANK YOU.
15:58:26 [GAVEL SOUNDING]
15:58:33 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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