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Tampa City Council
Thursday, March 5, 2020
9:00 a.m.


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09:04:59 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

09:05:03 >>LUIS VIERA: CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION.

09:05:04 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:05:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.

09:05:10 WE HAVE A LEGEND TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.

09:05:13 COLLEGE HILL CHURCH OF CHRIST APPOINTED IN 1997,

09:05:17 CREDITS GOD'S GUIDANCE AND WIFE'S DEDICATION OF HIS

09:05:20 HOME, CHILDREN AND SUCCESS OF HIS FAMILY.

09:05:23 SURRENDERED HIS LIFE TO CHRIST AT THE AGE OF 25 AND

09:05:28 BUILD BY THE HELP OF THE LORD AS CHRISTIAN.

09:05:30 UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP, HIS CHURCH HAS CONTINUED TO

09:05:31 FLOURISH.

09:05:33 THEY ARE INVOLVED IN SEVERAL MINISTRIES, SOCIAL

09:05:36 SERVICES MINISTRIES SUCH AS FOSTER CARE AND ADOPTIONS.

09:05:41 HE HAS BEEN MARRIED TO POLICE DELORES DAVIS FOR 53

09:05:45 YEARS AND FOUR DAUGHTERS, SIX GRANDCHILDREN AND FOUR

09:05:47 GREAT GRANDCHILDREN AND MY FRIEND FOR A LONG, LONG

09:05:48 TIME.

09:05:58 PASTOR DAVIS, WILL YOU COME FORWARD, SIR.

09:06:00 >> EVERYBODY STAND, PLEASE.

09:06:04 ETERNAL GOD OUR SAVIOR, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME AND

09:06:05 THIS HOUR.

09:06:09 AND I DO WANT TO THANK THE CITY AND BROTHER GUDES FOR

09:06:11 THIS INVOCATION AND PRAYER.

09:06:16 WE PRAY NOW, OH, GOD, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DO

09:06:21 THAT WHICH IS GOOD FOR THIS COMMUNITY, GOOD, OH GOD,

09:06:25 FOR THE CITIZENRY AND WE PRAY, GOD, THAT THEY WILL

09:06:30 BLESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND TOGETHER.

09:06:33 AND THEN BLESS THEIR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE

09:06:36 ADMINISTRATION, THE MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL AND

09:06:41 INVOLVE, OH GOD, WITH THE CITIZENRY AND THE

09:06:42 ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

09:06:45 WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON.

09:06:50 WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM TO REPRESENT US AS WE

09:06:53 INVOLVE OURSELVES INTO FACETS OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE

09:06:57 COUNTY, THE STATE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

09:07:02 LET THEM REPRESENT US, OH, GOD, STEADFASTNESS AND FOR

09:07:04 THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.

09:07:07 LET THEM REPRESENT US, OH GOD, FROM THE BUSINESS WORLD

09:07:11 AND THAT THEY MIGHT CREATE EMPLOYMENT.

09:07:15 CREATE OH GOD ECONOMIC LEVEL IN THIS COMMUNITY AS NEVER

09:07:16 SEEN BEFORE.

09:07:18 WE ASK THESE BLESS INFORMATION THE NAME OF THE LORD AND

09:07:22 SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST AND FOR HIS SAKE WE DO PRAY, AMEN.

09:07:23 AMEN.

09:07:36 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:07:38 >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL PLEASE.

09:07:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:07:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:07:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: -- HERE.

09:07:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:07:50 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:07:53 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:07:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE COOL.

09:07:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:07:57 BEFORE WE DO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, A FEW HOUSEKEEPING

09:07:59 ITEMS IF WE MAY.

09:08:03 WANT TO DO A MOTION FORMALLY ASKING THE CLERK TO PUT ON

09:08:08 THE AGENDA 10:30 FOR STAFF REPORTS JUST SO THAT THE --

09:08:12 THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THAT FROM NOW ON OTHER THAN BY

09:08:13 TRADITION.

09:08:16 HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.

09:08:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS BY DIRECTION OF

09:08:21 YOUR RULES AND PROCEDURES, YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS.

09:08:25 SO IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT ME TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF

09:08:28 BUSINESS TO ALLOW THAT AT 10:30, I WILL DO THAT.

09:08:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN THAT MOTION IS AMENDED TO ASK MR.

09:08:32 SHELBY TO DO SO.

09:08:32 IS THAT OKAY?

09:08:35 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:08:40 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:08:43 ITEM 46 SHOULD BE CONTINUED TO MARCH 19.

09:08:45 A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.

09:08:48 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:08:51 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:08:52 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:08:53 ANY OPPOSED?

09:08:55 OKAY.

09:08:58 THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS REQUESTED A TWO-WEEK

09:09:03 CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM 41 WHICH WILL BE MARCH 19.

09:09:06 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:09:08 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

09:09:09 ALL IN FAVOR.

09:09:10 ANY OPPOSED?

09:09:11 OKAY.

09:09:14 I WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE STAFF REPORTS THAT I

09:09:17 USUALLY DO AND SEE FOR THOSE WHO MADE THE MOTIONS IF WE

09:09:21 ARE GOING TO NEED STAFF HERE OR JUST A REPORT AND HOW

09:09:25 LONG YOU ANTICIPATE THIS GOING FOR PURPOSES OF TIMING.

09:09:27 ITEM 65.

09:09:27 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:09:32 DO YOU NEED SOMEONE HERE FOR THAT, SIR?

09:09:34 IF YOU NEED MORE TIME -- DO YOU?

09:09:35 YES.

09:09:37 YES, TO 65.

09:09:41 66, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU NEED SOMEONE FOR THAT

09:09:44 HERE LIVE, SIR?

09:09:46 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.

09:09:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES TO 66.

09:09:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND ONE WILL GO REALLY FAST.

09:09:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU NEED SOMEONE HERE?

09:09:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

09:09:56 >>LUIS VIERA: 67.

09:09:57 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:10:03 FOR MEMORIAL PARK, 66, 67, 68, 69, YES, OF COURSE.

09:10:04 70.

09:10:08 COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU NEED SOMEONE THERE LIVE FOR

09:10:10 THAT, SIR?

09:10:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, DEFINITELY.

09:10:17 >> DO YOU NEED SOMEONE LIVE FOR MA MANISCALCO, THE

09:10:22 SIX-MONTH REPORT ON THE WMBE PROGRAM.

09:10:24 >> NO, I DON'T.

09:10:25 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM 72.

09:10:28 KINGSTON IS NOT HERE.

09:10:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SECONDED THE MOTION.

09:10:33 I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE THERE PLEASE.

09:10:42 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ITEM 73?

09:10:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

09:10:47 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES, WANT SOMEBODY HERE FOR

09:10:49 T.H.A.N.?

09:10:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

09:10:54 >>LUIS VIERA: 75 WORKSHOP AND YES.

09:10:56 THAT'S IT.

09:10:56 MARVELOUS.

09:11:00 LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS.

09:11:04 FOR ITEM 63 AND 64, WE HAVE AN INTERPRETER PRESENT FOR

09:11:05 THESE ITEMS.

09:11:10 SO I AM GOING TO HAVE THESE HEARD BEFORE LUNCH.

09:11:13 AND I AM PRETTY DARN SURE WE CAN DO THAT.

09:11:16 I AM PRETTY DARN SURE WE CAN DO THAT AND LET EVERYBODY

09:11:16 KNOW.

09:11:21 ITEM 63 AND 64, AN INTERPRETER WHO IS BILLING BY THE

09:11:24 HOUR APPARENTLY, SO WE WILL HAVE HIM HERE PRIOR TO

09:11:24 THAT.

09:11:28 OKAY, MAY I HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND

09:11:30 ADDENDUM.

09:11:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN FAVOR.

09:11:36 >>LUIS VIERA: CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.

09:11:53 ITEM NUMBER ONE.

09:11:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE CHAIR OF CITY COUNCIL.

09:12:00 MY PLEASURE TO BRING UP DIAN DAVIS.

09:12:03 WITH THAT PRETTY SMILE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RETIRE.

09:12:07 I MEAN, EVERY TIME I COME TO CITY HALL AND SEE A SMILE,

09:12:10 NO MATTER WHAT IS ON ANYONE'S MIND HERE, YOU LIVEN UP

09:12:15 THE BRAIN CELLS, AND YOU MAKE A DAY SEEM TO GO BY

09:12:19 RATHER QUICKLY AND VERY, VERY SOOTHING TO THE SOUL,

09:12:22 BECAUSE WHEN YOU WALK IN SOMEWHERE AND YOU SEE SOMEBODY

09:12:26 WHO IS LOOKING AT YOU LIKE I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE,

09:12:28 NOBODY WANTS TO BE HERE.

09:12:31 JUST TO SEE THE SMILE I STARTED WITH THIS MORNING,

09:12:34 REMINDS ME OF 19 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE LEGAL

09:12:34 DEPARTMENT.

09:12:37 WANT TO TELL OF ANY SECRETS?

09:12:37 >> NO.

09:12:37 [LAUGHTER]

09:12:40 I MIGHT HAVE TO KILL YOU.

09:12:42 [LAUGHTER]

09:12:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.

09:12:46 YOU KNOW, YOU WORKED WITH -- I CAN'T TELL HOW MANY

09:12:51 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS AND YOUR DEDICATION, I

09:12:54 GUARANTEE YOU OVER 50.

09:12:57 AND THE WAY YOU HANDLE YOURSELF, THE FRESHNESS.

09:13:02 YOU HANDLE A LOT OF CITY ATTORNEYS, ASSISTANT CITY

09:13:05 ATTORNEYS FRESH OUT OF LAW, AND THEY HAVE A LAW DEGREE

09:13:08 AND THEY CAN UNDERSTAND BUT TO PUT THAT INTO

09:13:09 PRACTICALITY.

09:13:11 YOU ARE THE LEADING LIGHT, THE BEAM THAT SHOWED THEM

09:13:14 THE WAY, AND THIS IS THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE

09:13:16 AND UP TO THEM TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

09:13:18 WE ARE SO HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE.

09:13:21 AND YOU LOOK KIND OF YOUNG TO RETIRE THOUGH.

09:13:23 SO I AM SURE YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

09:13:30 BUT YOU HAVE BEEN A FIELD OF MUNICIPAL PROSECUTION AND

09:13:32 CIVIL CITATION AND VERY IMPORTANT THAT DO YOU IT RIGHT

09:13:35 THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE CERTAINLY

09:13:41 CITED OF SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LARGER CONSEQUENCES AND

09:13:46 WITH YOUR GUIDANCE YOU MAKE EVERYTHING GOES FINE.

09:13:49 YOUR 19 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU MAKE A

09:13:52 REPRESENTATION OF THOSE WHO NEEDED HELP, BUT ALSO YOU

09:13:54 MADE SURE THAT THE LAW WAS GUIDED THE RIGHT WAY.

09:13:58 WE ARE HONORED TO TELL YOU THANK YOU, MISS DAVIS, FOR

09:14:01 EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR YOUR 19 YEARS OF SERVICE.

09:14:07 [APPLAUSE]

09:14:11 >> IT TRULY HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND PLEASURE SERVING THE

09:14:11 CITY.

09:14:17 AND I THANK GOD THAT HE ALLOWED ME TO RETIRE.

09:14:21 AND I AM GOING TO DO JUST THAT.

09:14:22 THANK YOU.

09:14:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

09:14:27 ANY COMMENTS?

09:14:30 AND, MA'AM, IF YOU DON'T -- IF YOU DON'T MIND

09:14:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTS TO -- YOU DON'T MIND.

09:14:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT IS A BLESSING TO SAY THAT WORD

09:14:38 "RETIREMENT."

09:14:42 A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY, THEY ARE

09:14:42 STILL WORKING.

09:14:45 THANK GOD HE GAVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.

09:14:46 YOU GO AND ENJOY YOURSELF.

09:14:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

09:14:49 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, MA'AM.

09:14:52 AND I HOPE THAT YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT AND WE ARE

09:14:55 PROUD HERE TO HONOR YOU FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE

09:14:56 TO THE CITY.

09:14:59 GOD BLESS YOU.

09:14:59 >> THANK YOU.

09:15:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER TWO, I BELIEVE, HAS BEEN

09:15:05 DONE OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL.

09:15:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.

09:15:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

09:15:11 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR.

09:15:12 ANY OPPOSED?

09:15:13 OKAY.

09:15:16 ITEM NUMBER 3.

09:15:21 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:15:24 DO YOU HAVE YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTER, SIR?

09:15:35 >> I THINK THEY PREFER TO SIT, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

09:15:38 COUNCILMAN, MEMBERS, I WILL BE A LITTLE -- A PATH FOR

09:15:43 ME TO GET UP THERE ON THE DAIS, AND IN THAT PATH, I

09:15:48 SERVED WITH MANY FINE TURNS TO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

09:15:54 REBECCA KERT, ERNIE MUELLER, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

09:15:57 AND THE HELP I RECEIVED FROM THEM IN TEACHING ME WAYS

09:16:01 OF THE CITY IS THE REASON WHY I AM GOING TO BE A LITTLE

09:16:05 SELFISH AND THANK THEM FOR WHAT THEY DID FOR ME IN

09:16:08 HELPING ME LEARN ABOUT THE CITY.

09:16:14 BOY, I SOUND LIKE A BEATLES SONG.

09:16:17 JERROD SIMPSON AND HIS ACHIEVEMENT WITH THE CITY OF

09:16:20 TAMPA AS A CITY ATTORNEY, WE WISH YOU WELL.

09:16:23 WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT TAKE YOU IN

09:16:26 DIFFERENT CAREER PATHS AND OF COURSE A GREAT FAMILY

09:16:28 THAT HAS HELPED YOU ALONG IN YOUR CAREER.

09:16:30 SO YOU ARE GOING TO LAKELAND.

09:16:34 AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.

09:16:41 JERROD HELPED ME WITH HIS LEGAL ADVISORY ON MANY THINGS

09:16:44 INCLUDING CODE ENFORCEMENT WHEN I WAS THERE.

09:16:49 HE HAS ALSO HELPED AS A MUNICIPAL PROSECUTOR HELPING

09:16:51 WITH COMPLIANCE, NOT PUNISHMENT.

09:16:54 THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WHEN I WAS A -- A CODE

09:16:59 ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE, I WOULD RATHER SEEK HELP FOR

09:17:04 PEOPLE WHO WERE IN NEED WHO COULD NOT AFFORD OR DIDN'T

09:17:07 HAVE THE POWER THEMSELVES TO GET THINGS DONE, AND I

09:17:10 THANK YOU FOR TEACHING ME THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO --

09:17:15 TO REP INSTEAD OF PUNISH.

09:17:21 AND APPEALS WHERE HE SUCCESSFULLY PREVAILED IN

09:17:23 LITGATION THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, SAVED THE CITY

09:17:25 LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.

09:17:27 HE WAS WITH BUILDING OFFICIAL, NATIONAL RESOURCE

09:17:27 DIVISION.

09:17:33 HE SERVED AS AN ATTORNEY HANDLING FIRE RESCUE.

09:17:36 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ISSUES AND HAVE DONE EXCESSIVE WORK

09:17:38 WITH OUR TREE CODE.

09:17:44 IT IS A SHAME THAT TALLAHASSEE IS REEXEMPTING US ON A

09:17:45 LOT OF THAT.

09:17:49 WE THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US.

09:17:51 BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH YOU HELPED ME AND THE CITY, TAMPA

09:17:56 CITY COUNCIL CONGRATULATES JERROD SIMPSON AS CITY TAMPA

09:17:59 ATTORNEY AND WISHES HIM WELL IN HIS CAREER

09:18:02 OPPORTUNITIES AND ALL OF HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

09:18:09 AS AN ASSISTANT ATTORNEY HE HAS DONE WORK IN CODE

09:18:12 ENFORCEMENT AND TRADED AND GUIDED CODE ENFORCEMENT

09:18:15 OFFICER ON A DAILY BASIS AND REPRESENTED THE CITY IN

09:18:17 CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS.

09:18:24 SERVED AS MUNICIPAL PROSECUTOR HELPING TO ENFORCE CITY,

09:18:25 NOT PUNISHMENT.

09:18:33 HANDLED APPEALS AND SUCCESSFULLY PREVAILED AND SAVED

09:18:34 LEGAL COST.

09:18:39 HE WAS WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION.

09:18:44 SERVED AS AN ATTORNEY WITH TAMPA RESCUE AND WORK WITH

09:18:47 THE TREE ORDINANCE AS I JUST SAID.

09:18:50 MR. SIMPSON, YOU HAVE HAD AN ENGAGING CAREER THUS FAR

09:18:52 IN YOUR TIME HERE IN THE CITY.

09:18:56 WE WISH YOU WELL ON YOUR FUTURE.

09:18:58 CITY TAMPA COUNCIL PRESENTS YOU WITH THIS COMMENDATION

09:19:02 ON THE FIFTH DAY OF MARCH, 2020.

09:19:04 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

09:19:10 [APPLAUSE]

09:19:11 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

09:19:13 I AM TRULY HONORED BY THIS.

09:19:14 VERY SURPRISED.

09:19:17 AND IT HAS BEEN THE GREATEST PRIVILEGE OF MY CAREER TO

09:19:19 SERVE THIS CITY.

09:19:25 AS JOE SAID, I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN CODE ENFORCEMENT AS

09:19:29 SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED WITH COMPASSION AND

09:19:32 THAT IS THE WILL OF THIS BODY AND THE CITY.

09:19:36 IT IS A MESSY BUSINESS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT AN

09:19:37 ESSENTIAL FUNCTION OF THE GOVERNMENT.

09:19:40 AND TRULY HONORED TO BE RECEIVING THIS.

09:19:41 THANK YOU.

09:19:44 [APPLAUSE]

09:19:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS?

09:19:49 COUNCILMAN GUDES?

09:19:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SHORT TIME I KNOWN YOU I HAVE

09:19:55 SEEN SOME OF YOUR WORK AND THE KEY WORD IS

09:19:58 "COMPASSION."

09:20:02 YOU NEED THAT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.

09:20:04 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR HOMES AND

09:20:04 PROPERTIES.

09:20:06 THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND HELP CITIZENS WITH THAT

09:20:10 COMPASSION AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU IN YOUR NEW

09:20:12 ENDEAVOR.

09:20:13 THANK YOU.

09:20:14 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

09:20:16 YOU WORK TIRELESSLY.

09:20:17 YOU ARE ALWAYS HERE.

09:20:19 YOU HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AND WE APPRECIATE YOU

09:20:22 AND SO MANY OTHERS IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

09:20:25 I HOPE FOLKS REALIZE JUST HOW MANY HOURS AND SACRIFICES

09:20:30 YOU PUT IN TO MAKE SURE THINGS RUN SMOOTHLY, LEGALLY,

09:20:32 PROTECTING THE CITY BECAUSE YOU DO AND HELPING OTHERS.

09:20:36 SO WE ARE THANKFUL FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE HERE.

09:20:41 AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

09:20:42 I WANT TO ECHO THAT.

09:20:45 MR. SIMPSON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:20:47 YOU ARE GOING TO THE CITY OF LAKELAND AND CONTINUE IN

09:20:49 THE PATH OF PUBLIC SERVICE.

09:20:52 AS YOU KNOW I AM AN ATTORNEY AS WELL, AND UNDERSTAND

09:20:53 THE STRESS OF THE JOB.

09:20:55 IT IS A VERY, VERY STRESSFUL JOB.

09:20:56 IT ALWAYS IS.

09:20:59 AND YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, ALWAYS THIS STEREOTYPE IN THE

09:21:02 PUBLIC SECTOR THERE IS LESS STRESS.

09:21:03 NOT TRUE.

09:21:04 IT IS MORE STRESS.

09:21:07 IF I MAKE A MISTAKE IN MY PRIVATE PRACTICE, VERY FEW

09:21:09 PEOPLE WILL KNOW ABOUT IT, RIGHT.

09:21:12 WHEREAS IF YOU DO, A PUBLIC PRICE TO PAY.

09:21:14 YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THAT POSITION.

09:21:17 IT IS A VERY, VERY STRESSFUL JOB.

09:21:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:21:21 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

09:21:23 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:21:25 IF YOU WERE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME

09:21:25 FORWARD.

09:21:27 THREE MINUTES A PERSON.

09:21:41 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

09:21:43 >> WOW, FIRST.

09:21:48 TRAVIS WARREN, AN YBOR CITY BUSINESS LEADER AND I

09:21:50 CERTAINLY WASN'T EXPECTED TO GO FIRST THIS MORNING AND

09:21:53 APPRECIATE ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF

09:21:55 THIS LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY.

09:21:57 I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING MY WORDS THIS MORNING.

09:21:59 HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF

09:22:03 TRANSPORTATION PROPOSAL TO REWORK THE EXITS IN OUR

09:22:04 AREA.

09:22:08 LIKE YOU ALL, I HEAR ON NEWS REPORTS NAMES, MAL

09:22:10 FUNCTION JUNCTION.

09:22:13 SOMETHING WE HEARD A TIME OR TWO AND WE HEAR PROBLEMS

09:22:16 WITH TRAFFIC EACH MORNING AND I THINK WHAT THEY HAVE

09:22:20 DONE IS COME UP WITH A WORKABLE, REASONABLE PROPOSAL.

09:22:24 AND SO MYSELF AS A BUSINESS LEADER IN YBOR CITY, I

09:22:27 WANTED TO COME AND SUPPORT THAT AND ASK YOU ALL TO AS

09:22:27 WELL.

09:22:28 THANK YOU.

09:22:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:22:33 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:22:34 >> MICHAEL FARMER.

09:22:39 MAY I SUBMIT THIS TO THE CLERK'S FILE.

09:22:51 I HAVE SENT COUNCILMEMBERS E-MAIL OF MY CONCERN OF

09:22:54 COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, HD LANDSCAPING OPERATING IN A

09:22:55 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:22:58 CODE ENFORCEMENT IS CITING THE WRONG OWNER.

09:23:01 CODE ENFORCEMENT REFUSED TO CONTACT REAL PROPERTY

09:23:04 MANAGEMENT, THE COMPANY THAT MANAGES THE PROPERTY AND

09:23:09 HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE OWNER OF 2617.

09:23:15 BUT INSTEAD CONTINUED TO COMMUNICATE AND THE VIOLATORS

09:23:18 AND OUR CASES WHILE I AM LEFT TO BELIEVE THE CASE IS

09:23:20 ONGOING.

09:23:23 ONE I FIND OUT AND CONTINUE TO PERSIST AND PROVIDE

09:23:26 PICTURES OF VIOLATION, BECAUSE THEY SAY WE CAN'T CATCH

09:23:29 THEM, YOU JUST CONTINUE TO TAKE PICTURES AND SHOW UP TO

09:23:30 COURT.

09:23:33 I HAD TO FIND OUT ON MY OWN WHEN THE COURT DATE WAS,

09:23:35 WHICH WAS YESTERDAY.

09:23:42 THE INSPECTOR DID NOT CONTACT ME ABOUT ALL THE PICTURES

09:23:44 I HAD OR IF THEY HAD TO BE PRINTED.

09:23:48 THE ATTORNEY THREW ME UNDER THE BUS, SO TO SPEAK, BY

09:23:51 TELLING THE MAGISTRATE NOT TO EXPECT THE 27 PICTURES

09:23:53 BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THEIR COMPUTER.

09:23:56 THE MAGISTRATE AGREED AND THE ATTORNEY REQUESTED THE

09:23:59 CASE TO BE REMANDED BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT.

09:24:03 WHEN ONLY IF THE DEPARTMENT HAD ONLY DID AS IT ASKED TO

09:24:06 MAKE CONTACT WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT RUN THE

09:24:10 DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO CONTACT

09:24:13 THE OWNER, I WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN DOING

09:24:16 THEIR JOB AND HAVING STRIFE WITH THE NEXT-DOOR

09:24:17 NEIGHBOR.

09:24:21 BUT INSTEAD THEY LISTENED TO AND KEPT IN CONTACT WITH

09:24:22 THE TENANTS IN VIOLATION.

09:24:26 THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION I REQUEST FROM COUNCIL TODAY

09:24:31 IF ANY MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE ATTACHMENT WITH

09:24:36 THE 27 PICTURES, I ASK AT YOUR PLEASURE TO MAKE A

09:24:39 MOTION THESE PICTURES BE PRINTED AND SENT TO THE

09:24:42 MAGISTRATE AND INCLUDED AS PART OF THE CASE AND LET ME

09:24:43 KNOW.

09:24:45 MAKE CONTACT WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY BECAUSE CODE

09:24:48 ENFORCEMENT SAY THEY CAN'T DO THAT OR HAVE THE

09:24:51 MANAGEMENT COMPANY APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL.

09:24:56 HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL TO REPORT HOW THESE TWO COMPANIES AT

09:24:59 CURTIS STREET ADDRESSES BOUGHT HOME IN THE BLACK

09:25:03 COMMUNITY THAT WAS FOR LOW INCOME AND NOW PROFIT IN

09:25:07 RENTAL INCOME BY USING EACH OTHER'S ADDRESS.

09:25:11 QUESTION, DOES THIS MEAN THE LOSS OF CHANGE -- LAWS

09:25:14 HAVE CHANGED WHERE YOU CAN GET A RENTAL CERTIFICATE BY

09:25:17 USING A NEIGHBOR'S ADDRESS?

09:25:21 THANK YOU.

09:25:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN --

09:25:27 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL -- GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:25:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERYBODY RECEIVED MR. FARMER'S

09:25:30 REPORT.

09:25:33 MY OFFICE HAS ALREADY SUBMITTED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO

09:25:34 LOOK INTO THAT.

09:25:36 SO THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

09:25:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:25:40 ANYONE.

09:25:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN

09:25:45 GUDES SAID.

09:25:48 IT IS ALARMING IN THIS CASE WHERE THE OWNER IS OUTSIDE

09:25:49 THE UNITED STATES.

09:25:54 AND HE HAS A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT RUNS AND MAYBE

09:25:57 OTHERS, AND THE WAY THAT IT FIGURED OUT.

09:26:00 YOU ARE GOING TO CHASE -- LIKE CHASING YOUR OWN TAIL,

09:26:03 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIGHT IT UNLESS DO YOU WHAT MR.

09:26:06 FARMER DID, DID HIS OWN INVESTIGATION AND BROUGHT IT TO

09:26:06 LIGHT.

09:26:08 I WANT TO THANK HIM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PUTTING UP

09:26:12 WITH THIS KIND OF NONSENSE, LIKE YOURS, SIR, MORE OF

09:26:17 THOSE CASES IN EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA THAT SOMETIMES

09:26:20 LET'S YOU TO BELIEVE THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, THEY

09:26:22 HAVE A WAY TO GO AROUND IT.

09:26:25 WE ARE GOING TO START WORKING ON CHANGING SOME OF THESE

09:26:26 THINGS.

09:26:28 IN FACT I WAS WRITING A FEW OF THEM AS THE COUNCIL

09:26:30 STARTED IN SESSION.

09:26:33 AND IT'S A SAD SITUATION WHEN THIS HAPPENS.

09:26:36 BUT MORE THAN THAT, I THINK YOU NEED COOPERATIVE EFFORT

09:26:39 FOR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES SUCH AS THE INCOME

09:26:41 TAX PEOPLE.

09:26:44 WHEN YOU HAVE MONIES AND YOU HAVE RENTAL PROPERTY AND

09:26:47 YOU HAVE THESE THINGS GOING ON AND NOT IN YOUR CASE

09:26:50 MAYBE, BUT ANOTHER CASE THAT YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE

09:26:55 OTHER HOUSES THAT YOU BUILT OUT OF SHACKS AND IT LOOKS

09:26:58 REAL NICE INSIDE AND YOU PUT THEM ON AIRBNB WHATEVER

09:26:59 YOU CALL AND RENT IT OUT.

09:27:02 THE LAND UNDER THOSE BUILDINGS WERE NOT MET FOR

09:27:03 MULTIPLE DWELLINGS.

09:27:10 IT WAS RS-50, RS-60, RS-75 FOR SINGLE ONE HOME.

09:27:12 THE INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN THOSE HOMES ARE

09:27:18 NOT ONLY -- NOT PAYING THE TAXES THE AD VALOREM BASE

09:27:25 CHEATING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, CITY OF TAMPA, AND ALONG

09:27:28 WITH THAT, MOST OF THESE PAYMENTS ARE MADE IN CASH.

09:27:29 I HAVE EVIDENCE OF THAT.

09:27:32 AND THESE THINGS ARE GOING IN DAY IN, DAY OUT, NOT ONLY

09:27:36 IN THIS CITY BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

09:27:37 IT IS A WAY OF CHEATING.

09:27:40 AND YOU CAN ROB THE BANK AND YOU GO TO JAIL, BUT YOU

09:27:43 CAN ROB THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU DON'T GO TO JAIL.

09:27:44 AND I THINK THAT IS WRONG.

09:27:45 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:27:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

09:27:49 ANYONE ELSE?

09:27:52 BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE I MENTIONED 63 AND 64 AND

09:27:59 SAID IT IN ENGLISH AND TRY TO SAY IT IN SPANISH.

09:28:17 [SPEAKING SPANISH]

09:28:21 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, PLEASE.

09:28:39 I DO ALL RIGHT, MAN, I DO ALL RIGHT.

09:28:42 >> NOT SURE IF THIS WILL GET PICKED UP OR HOW TO MAKE

09:28:43 IT WORK.

09:28:49 >>LUIS VIERA: IS IT -- IS THERE A BUTTON -- THEY ARE

09:28:53 WORKING ON IT.

09:29:00 >> MY NAME IS RICK FERNANDEZ, ELMORE AVENUE, TAMPA

09:29:01 HEIGHTS.

09:29:05 I AM CHAIR OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION

09:29:06 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

09:29:11 I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 69 OF YOUR

09:29:15 AGENDA RELATED TO THE FDOT PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE

09:29:19 DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE AND THE ENTIRE TAMPA BAY NEXT

09:29:20 PROJECT.

09:29:23 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. FERNANDEZ.

09:29:27 STOP THE TIMER TO WORK ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT

09:29:28 YOUR TIMER --

09:29:31 >> SORRY, SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR TECHNICAL HELP BEFORE

09:29:33 WE STARTED THE MEETING.

09:29:43 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.

09:29:45 >> I HAVE BEEN HERE SO MANY TIMES BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK

09:29:46 ON THIS ISSUE.

09:29:49 EVEN THOUGH I WAS SOME COMMENTS WRITTEN, I NEVER QUITE

09:29:53 KNOW WHEN I COME UP HERE WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY BECAUSE

09:29:57 THERE IS USUALLY SOME EMOTION INVOLVED.

09:30:01 I SUBMITTED AN E-MAIL TO EACH OF YOU LAST NIGHT,

09:30:04 HOPEFULLY IT HIT YOUR IN BOXES.

09:30:08 THERE WERE ARTICLES ATTACHED TO IT BY WAY OF LINK.

09:30:11 THOSE MATERIALS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK FOR

09:30:14 DISTRIBUTION AND ANY REVIEW YOU DEEMED APPROPRIATE FOR

09:30:15 YOURSELF AND STAFF.

09:30:22 WE OPPOSE THE TAMPA BAY NEXT PROJECT.

09:30:25 I DON'T THINK THAT IS SURPRISE FOR ANYBODY.

09:30:27 TAMPA HEIGHTS THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DOWNTOWN

09:30:30 INTERCHANGE INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL EXITS IN YBOR

09:30:30 CITY.

09:30:32 I WILL LEAVE THAT THERE.

09:30:34 THE LETTER SAYS WHAT IT SAYS.

09:30:36 YOU HAVE HEARD ME MAKE THE COMMENTS BEFORE.

09:30:39 THE THING I WANT TO FOCUS ON TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT

09:30:43 REALLY IS BECOME MORE FOCUSED FOR ME OVER THE LAST

09:30:44 YEAR.

09:30:48 STARTED OPPOSING THIS PROJECT FIVE YEARS AGO BASED ON

09:30:50 ISSUES OF RIGHT-OF-WAY, TAKING GREEN SPACE, TAKING

09:30:51 BUILDINGS.

09:30:54 OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS FOCUSED ON ENVIRONMENTAL

09:30:56 JUSTICE FOR ME AND THE FACT THAT THE INTERSTATE

09:30:59 CORRIDOR RUNNING THROUGH THE CENTER OF TAMPA IS A

09:31:00 POLLUTION FACTORY.

09:31:03 AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

09:31:08 WE ARE GETTING REPORTS THAT THE MPO-CAC ROUTINELY NOW

09:31:12 OF THE ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS, ATTENDANT TO LIVING

09:31:16 WITHIN A 300 METER WALK SHED OF THE INTERSTATE.

09:31:22 INCREASED LEVEL OF CHILDHOOD ILLNESS, ASTHMA, CARDIO

09:31:25 PULMONARY PROBLEMS FOR THE INFIRMED AND ELDERLY

09:31:27 POPULATIONS.

09:31:30 THE RESPONSE TO THAT FROM FDOT IS TO MAKE THE POLLUTION

09:31:34 FACTORY BIGGER, TO EXTEND THE ROAD.

09:31:36 WE SAY THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.

09:31:40 WE ASK YOU TO SAY NO TO THAT.

09:31:42 AND IN PARTICULAR, THE ARTICLE THAT I PROPOSED TO YOU

09:31:47 RELATES TO THE QUESTION OF SOMEHOW CARS MOVING AT SPEED

09:31:52 ARE LESS POLLUTING THAN CARS THAT ARE SITTING AT IDLE.

09:31:55 THE ARTICLE THAT I SUBMITTED TO YOU GIVE THE LIE TO

09:31:56 THAT STATEMENT.

09:31:59 I AM NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO GET INTO IT IN MORE

09:31:59 DETAIL.

09:32:01 SUMMARIZE SOMEWHAT IN MY LETTER.

09:32:05 PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY IS PROPOSING THAT TO

09:32:07 YOU, THEY ARE NOT TELLING YOU THE TRUTH, AND IF YOU

09:32:08 WERE ADVOCATING.

09:32:10 >>LUIS VIERA: FIVE SECONDS.

09:32:12 >> IF YOU WERE ADVOCATING FOR THIS POSITION WHAT YOU

09:32:14 ARE SAYING TO ME AND THOSE LIKE ME YOU ARE NOT

09:32:15 CONCERNED ABOUT OUR HEALTH.

09:32:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, THANK YOU.

09:32:22 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:32:27 >> HELLO, REVEREND DR. GLEN DANE SR., SENIOR PASTOR OF

09:32:30 THE METHODIST CHURCH LOCATED IN THE WONDERFUL YBOR

09:32:30 CITY.

09:32:35 I COME HERE TODAY FOR THREE REASONS BUT I WILL BE

09:32:35 SHORT.

09:32:39 FIRST OF ALL, I AM IN FAVOR OF -- AND I THINK YOU HAVE

09:32:44 A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT -- THAT AND OUR 1581 MEMBERS

09:32:51 ARE IN FAVOR OF THE FDOT PROJECT, WHICH WE THINK WILL

09:32:53 BE HELPFUL TO THAT AREA.

09:32:57 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCREASED -- WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE

09:32:58 INCREASED SIDEWALK SPACE.

09:33:04 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME BICYCLE PATHS FOR OUR

09:33:07 CHILDREN, BUT I THINK OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK IT IS A

09:33:08 PRETTY GOOD PROJECT.

09:33:10 SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE.

09:33:11 THAT IS THE FIRST THING.

09:33:14 MY LETTER SAYS THAT ALL, SO I DON'T HAVE TO BE

09:33:15 REDUNDANT.

09:33:20 SECONDLY, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THE

09:33:22 RESIDENTS OF TAMPA PARK APARTMENTS.

09:33:27 AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE -- SOME OF THEM -- MOST OF

09:33:31 THEM I UNDERSTAND ABOUT 300 OF THEM HAVE NOWHERE TO GO

09:33:33 AFTER THIS.

09:33:38 SO MY -- MY CONCERN IS NOT FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT

09:33:39 WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

09:33:44 AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS EXPLORING

09:33:50 OPTIONS TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THESE FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY

09:33:52 ARE LOW-INCOME FAMILIES AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT FEELS

09:33:55 LIKE NO ONE CARES.

09:33:58 AND I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A HUMANE ISSUE AND I HOPE

09:34:00 THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT IT HUMANELY.

09:34:05 LASTLY, 11TH STREET IS A DISASTER.

09:34:08 AND WE NEED SOME HELP DOWN THERE.

09:34:12 OUR 1581 FOLKS AT OUR CHURCH ARE TEARING THEIR CARS UP

09:34:15 BECAUSE OF THE POTHOLES IN THE ROAD.

09:34:18 I PRAY THAT YOU CAN FIND SOME MONEY TO PAVE THAT ROAD.

09:34:21 AND WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, WE WILL TO DO BE

09:34:25 SUPPORTIVE, BUT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED RELIEF ON 11TH

09:34:28 AVENUE BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS ABSOLUTELY DISASTROUS.

09:34:31 SO IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT, WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:34:34 BUT, AGAIN, I RENEW MY CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF

09:34:36 TAMPA PARK APARTMENTS.

09:34:36 GOD BLESS YOU.

09:34:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:34:40 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:34:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REVEREND, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN

09:34:45 AND GIVING US YOUR OPINION ON THE ISSUES.

09:34:48 WITH REGARD TO THE SECOND ISSUE, I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE

09:34:51 LAST WEEK WHEN THE TAMPA PARK ANNOUNCEMENT CAME OUT,

09:34:54 JUST SO HAPPENED WE HAD MISS MCCRERY HERE FROM OUR

09:34:57 HOUSING GROUP AND WE ASKED HER TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE

09:34:59 WHAT THE CITY COULD DO.

09:35:02 OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T STOP THE DEAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

09:35:07 >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM ASKING -- ADVOCATING.

09:35:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO HELP THE PEOPLE FINDING THE NEXT

09:35:11 PLACE TO MOVE ON TO.

09:35:15 SHE IS SUPPOSED TO REPORT BACK TO US.

09:35:17 >> IF WE CAN LOOK TO WORKSHOPPING THAT.

09:35:20 IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO,

09:35:22 ONE, HEAR FROM THEIR COUNCIL.

09:35:26 AND, TWO, EXPRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS, AND ALSO TO

09:35:27 ASSESS THEIR NEEDS.

09:35:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ACTUALLY --

09:35:29 >> I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

09:35:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO RECALL NOW THAT YOU MENTION

09:35:36 WORKSHOP, SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE ORGANIZING --

09:35:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MADE SURE -- I TOLD HER THAT WHEN

09:35:41 THEY SCHEDULE THAT SPECIAL MEETING TO MAKE SURE THIS

09:35:43 COUNCIL IS AWARE.

09:35:45 BECAUSE I KNOW THIS COUNCIL WILL WANT TO BE AT THAT

09:35:48 MEETING TO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAD TO SAY.

09:35:51 IT WOULD BE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE COULD NOT

09:35:54 TALK, BUT WE COULD LISTEN TO WHAT WAS BEING SAID.

09:35:57 I MADE SURE I MADE THAT REQUEST.

09:35:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MAKE SURE YOUR OFFICE IS

09:36:00 AWARE OF THAT DATE.

09:36:02 SHE IS GOING TO ORGANIZE SOMETHING IN THAT COMMUNITY.

09:36:06 >> IF SHE NEEDS A PLACE, I WILL OFFER ALLEN TEMPLE AS A

09:36:09 PLACE TO HOST THAT WORKSHOP IF YOU NEED A PLACE.

09:36:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WILL PASS THAT ON.

09:36:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE --

09:36:16 I HAVE AN ACTUAL LETTER -- I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY

09:36:17 RECEIVED IT.

09:36:21 THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHURCH ALLEN TEMPLE.

09:36:23 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS FROM THE CHURCH?

09:36:25 >> I THINK I SAID THAT IN MY COMMENTS EARLIER.

09:36:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, SIR.

09:36:30 >> OUR LETTER THAT WE SUBMIT AND SUPPORT

09:36:31 WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

09:36:33 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:36:36 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK AND ALSO THE

09:36:39 LINE OF PEOPLE WHO COME EVERY WEEK TO TALK ABOUT

09:36:39 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

09:36:42 IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THIS COUNCIL AND ALSO

09:36:46 FOR US SITTING AT THE CRA BOARD.

09:36:47 THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE BIG THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED

09:36:48 IN IT.

09:36:51 ONE IS ALLOWING THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO COME IN.

09:36:54 TODAY WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT SINGLE BID

09:36:56 CONTRACTS, AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WAS NOT OPENING IT

09:36:59 UP TO OTHER INVESTORS WHO CAN COME IN.

09:37:01 AND I THINK THAT ALL IS CHANGING.

09:37:03 BUT THAT DISCUSSION WILL HAPPEN LATER TODAY.

09:37:05 THE SECOND THING IS MONEY.

09:37:08 AND ONE BIG POT OF MONEY THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS SOME

09:37:10 INFLUENCE ON IS THE CRA MONEY.

09:37:13 AND NEXT WEEK ON THE CRA AGENDA, WE ASKED STAFF TO COME

09:37:17 BACK AND PROPOSE SPENDING UP TO 30% OF THE CRA MONEY ON

09:37:19 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

09:37:22 IT -- IT TURNS OUT A LOT OF THAT IS ALLOCATED ALREADY,

09:37:26 BUT EVEN IF WE COULD FIND $5 MILLION, 30% WOULD BE $10

09:37:27 MILLION OR MORE.

09:37:30 BUT FIND $5 MILLION, THAT WILL HELP TO PUSH IT FORWARD.

09:37:32 ALSO WE HAD A STAFF CHANGE.

09:37:35 AT LEAST I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO STAFF OF GETTING AN

09:37:37 ADDITIONAL PERSON.

09:37:41 A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE WORKING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

09:37:44 WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT WITH A DIFFERENT POINT OF

09:37:46 VIEW.

09:37:49 IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOUR INPUT IS VERY VALUABLE.

09:37:51 THANK YOU.

09:37:53 >> I HAVE 40 SECONDS LEFT AND LET ME QUICKLY SPEAK TO

09:37:54 THAT.

09:37:56 THE OPTICS OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW STINKS, JUST SO

09:37:57 YOU KNOW.

09:38:05 IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE 300 PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT NOWHERE

09:38:06 TO GO.

09:38:11 AND LOOKS LIKE -- I AM NOT SAYING IT IS -- BUT LOOKS

09:38:12 LIKE COUNCIL IS NOT AS CONCERNED.

09:38:15 I HOPE YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND.

09:38:18 I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL'S HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND

09:38:19 DESIRE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

09:38:23 BUT SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR

09:38:26 MOUTH AT AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

09:38:29 THAT CAN BE ALLOCATED IF WE GET A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM

09:38:30 THE COUNCIL.

09:38:30 THANK YOU.

09:38:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, SIR.

09:38:38 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:38:48 >> I NEED FOR TO YOU TELL A CORONAVIRUS EXISTS IN THE

09:38:49 ROOM.

09:38:53 THE CORONAVIRUS A AFFECTING THE WORD, BUT THE -- VIRUS

09:38:55 SUPERCEDES THE CORONAVIRUS.

09:39:00 BECAUSE THE VIRUS HAS MADE IT TO 600 YEARS AND THE

09:39:05 AFRICAN PEOPLE GOTTEN NO PEACE, NO NOTHING, NO

09:39:09 REPARATIONS RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM AMIDST THOSE

09:39:12 CHAIRS, PERRY HARVEY, GWEN MILLER, REVEREND THOMAS

09:39:20 SCOTT, KEVIN WHITE, FRANK REDDICK AND ORLANDO GUDES,

09:39:24 SEVEN BLACK REPRESENTATIVES AND NO ONE EVER SAID THE

09:39:28 WORDS OUT OF THEIR MOUTH WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION.

09:39:33 WE ARE 26% OF TAMPA'S POPULATION AND NOT ONE OF YOU

09:39:36 SAID WE NEED 26% OF THE CITY'S BUDGET.

09:39:39 THEY HAVE NOT CALLED FOR 26% OF THE BUDGET FOR

09:39:44 CONTRACTORS, FOR AFRICAN HOUSING, FOR AFRICAN CHILDREN.

09:39:45 NOT ONE.

09:39:49 NOT ONE HAS MENTIONED THE WORD REPARATIONS OUT OF THEIR

09:39:50 MOUTH.

09:39:53 600 YEARS OF FREE LABOR THAT WHITE FOLKS GOTTEN OUT

09:39:55 MUCH US.

09:40:00 NOT ONE CALLED FOR THE REMOVAL OF BOB BUCKHORN WHEN HE

09:40:04 CALLED FOR THE LYNCHING OF A YOUNG AFRICAN MAN IN

09:40:05 PUBLIC.

09:40:06 THE COWARD VIRUS.

09:40:10 SITTING AMONG YOU ARE SEVEN WHITE BULLIES.

09:40:14 SIX WHITE BULLIES SITTING RIGHT AMONGST YOU.

09:40:18 BULLIES, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.

09:40:22 I DON'T CARE WHAT PACKAGE, LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE,

09:40:25 ENVIRONMENTALIST, TREE LOVER, ANIMAL LOVER.

09:40:30 THE SAME ANIMAL LOVERS WHITE ANIMAL LOVES THAT LOVE THE

09:40:33 ANIMALS SO MUCH THEY WANT TO SEE MICHAEL VICK JUST

09:40:33 DESTROYED.

09:40:35 SEE A BLACK MAN DESTROYED.

09:40:42 THE COWARD VIRUS AMONGST VIRUS AMONGST AFRICAN PEOPLE.

09:40:44 NOW THEY INFESTED US WITH.

09:40:45 HOW THEY TRAIN US TO ACT.

09:40:49 HOW THEY TRAIN MARTIN LUTHER KING.

09:40:49 LOVE YOUR ENEMY.

09:40:54 LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AND MOUNTAINTOP AND LITTLE WHITE

09:41:01 BOYS AND LIVING IN PEACE AND WHITE FOLK TREATING US

09:41:02 LIKE DIRT.

09:41:04 EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM HAVE HATE IN THEIR HEART.

09:41:07 NOT SOME OF THEM, ALL OF THEM, AND YOU CAN SEE.

09:41:09 YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT BY THE WAY BLACK PEOPLE

09:41:11 ARE TREATED.

09:41:12 YOU CAN SEE IT.

09:41:14 THE COWARD VIRUS.

09:41:18 A BUNCH OF SILLY COWARDS, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS,

09:41:21 AND WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WHEN BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MARTIN

09:41:23 LUTHER KING, JR., THE KING OF THE COWARDS, AND ONCE HE

09:41:25 LEARNED WHAT WAS GOING ON, THEY KILLED HIM.

09:41:27 THEY MURDERED HIM.

09:41:35 BARACK THE KING OF THE COWARDS AND HE AND HIS BUCKTOOTH

09:41:37 WIFE MAKING MONEY AND THE OTHER MAN DESTROY THEIR

09:41:38 IMAGE.

09:41:40 YOU NEED TO TIGHTEN UP.

09:41:42 >>LUIS VIERA: WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:41:43 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:41:48 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.

09:41:55 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE WITH UNCERTAINTY ALL THE TIME

09:42:01 AND NEVER LIVE IN A PLACE THAT HAS BEEN NATIONALLY

09:42:04 KNOWN IT WAS A WAR TONE VILLAGE.

09:42:09 THE EFFECTS OF UNCERTAINTY HAS A STINGING EFFECT.

09:42:13 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMING OUT OF AFRICAN HISTORY AND

09:42:16 ASK WHAT HAPPENED TO BLACK WALL STREET.

09:42:18 WHAT HAPPENED TO TULSA.

09:42:20 WHAT HAPPENED TO ROSE WOOD.

09:42:22 YOU KNOW WHAT WE ADD TO THAT, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE

09:42:24 PEOPLE IN TAMPA PARK.

09:42:27 IRREGARDLESS OF THE DEALS THAT ARE MADE, THE PEOPLE ARE

09:42:33 NEEDING OF ASSISTANCE AND WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS CITY

09:42:38 GOVERNMENT WILL MOVE BEYOND DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

09:42:41 THEY WILL PAY THE UTILITY BILL BECAUSE WE KNOW THE

09:42:45 CONDITION OF THAT POPULATION IN TERM WHAT THEY HAVE

09:42:50 ANNUALLY TO PAY AS OPPOSED WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM IN

09:42:51 THIS CITY RIGHT NOW.

09:42:55 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME.

09:42:58 CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO MOVE BEYOND CONVERSATION, BUT

09:43:04 INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA, A PIONEER HAS EMERGED TO CANER

09:43:05 HOME.

09:43:06 I AM GLAD IF HAS HAPPENED.

09:43:10 IT HAS HAPPENED BY A WHITE GENTLEMAN AND HIS PARTNER

09:43:16 COMING TO 3612 BISHOP NEWKIRK WAY AND BUILDING A

09:43:17 WONDERFUL CONTAINER HOME.

09:43:18 TO SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN.

09:43:21 WE DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR IT.

09:43:21 IT CAN.

09:43:23 IT HAS TO TAKE WILL.

09:43:27 WE KNOW THERE IS GREAT RESISTANCE IN OUR CRA IN EAST

09:43:30 TAMPA FOR MAKING SOMETHING LIKE IT HAPPEN.

09:43:31 AND I DON'T KNOW WHY.

09:43:38 I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS NUMBER 67 IN TERMS OF THE

09:43:40 MEMORIAL CEMETERY IS IN SHAMBLES.

09:43:43 I HOPE THE SOLUTION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE THIS

09:43:49 MORNING IS TO GIVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN BE THE

09:43:51 CARETAKERS OF OUR PEOPLE.

09:43:55 WE WANT TO BE -- WE WANT TO BECOME THE CARETAKERS OF

09:43:59 OUR COMMUNITY AND WITH REGARD TO NUMBER 67, PEOPLE ARE

09:44:02 SAYING THEY DON'T WANT THE EXPANSION ON 14TH STREET.

09:44:06 WHAT WE SAY TO FDOT, OPEN 34TH STREET AND 40TH STREET

09:44:12 EXIT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN AN ECONOMIC SANCTION

09:44:16 THAT NO BUSINESS COMES DOWN 34TH STREET.

09:44:18 NO COME DOWN 40TH STREET.

09:44:20 IT IS ALL DESIGNED.

09:44:22 IT IS CONTINUATION OF RED LINING.

09:44:27 IT IS A CONTINUATION OF SANCTIONING THE AFRICAN

09:44:30 COMMUNITY SHALL NOT PROSPER.

09:44:31 THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS TO US.

09:44:36 AS YOU BUILD THIS WONDERFUL TAMPA, WE HAVE CRISIS IN

09:44:41 OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE NO AFFORDABLE, ATTAINABLE,

09:44:46 WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IT DOES NOT OCCUR FOR

09:44:48 WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE AND WE CALL FOR THIS COUNCIL AND

09:44:50 THIS MAYOR TO MOVE TO THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

09:44:51 THANK YOU.

09:44:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

09:44:53 WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:44:54 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:44:56 >> GOOD MORNING, JOHNNY JOHNSON.

09:45:00 I'M HERE TO SPEAK OF TAMPA PARK AND THE SITUATION THAT

09:45:03 I LOOK AT AS TAMPA PARK IS TWO-FOLD.

09:45:06 THE FIRST FOLD IS THE DISPLACE THE FAMILIES AND PUT

09:45:09 THEM IN A SITUATION THAT WE ALL KNOW THEY CAN'T HANDLE

09:45:13 DUE TO THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION.

09:45:14 THE VOTING.

09:45:16 LOOK AT THE TIME THEY HAVE TO BE OUT OF THE RESIDENCE

09:45:20 IN NOVEMBER, THAT CAUSED A VOTING BACKLASH.

09:45:22 ALSO YOU RUIN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY NOT ONLY FOR ADULTS,

09:45:23 BUT FOR KIDS.

09:45:25 LOOK AT THE STRESS THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE ON THE

09:45:28 KIDS.

09:45:32 HOLD COMMUNITY IS BEING DISCOMBOBULATED AND MOVED OUT

09:45:35 SO THE KIDS HAVE TO FIND A WHOLE NEW START.

09:45:37 AND ADDING ON STRESS WITHOUT TAXATION WITHOUT

09:45:39 REPRESENTATION.

09:45:40 WE COME DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK.

09:45:43 I DON'T LOOK TO MAKE NO FRIENDS.

09:45:44 I LOOK TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

09:45:47 YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO LIKE US WHATSOEVER, BUT I

09:45:50 APPRECIATE THE GUY THAT'S DO COME OUT TO SEE WHAT IS

09:45:56 GOING ON, TO TRY TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF UNDERSTANDING SO

09:45:59 YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT COMING OUT OF LEFT FIELD

09:46:01 WITH THE ISSUES AND CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S WE COME AND

09:46:02 BRING BEFORE YOU GUYS.

09:46:06 ALL WE ASK THAT WE SHOULD BE ON THE SAME TEAM.

09:46:09 YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO US AND REACH ACROSS THE AISLE

09:46:09 TO YOU.

09:46:12 BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY

09:46:15 SITTING BACK SITTING ON TOP OF THEIR EGO.

09:46:15 LIVES INVOLVED.

09:46:18 PEOPLE'S LIVES INVOLVED AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS

09:46:19 TO KIDS.

09:46:21 OUR FUTURE.

09:46:21 RECYCLING.

09:46:25 EVERYTHING THAT'S DISAPPEARED FROM CENTRAL AVENUE,

09:46:29 CENTRAL PARK, EVERY PUBLIC HOUSING AND MOSTLY RETAINED

09:46:33 BY BLACKS ARE DISAPPEARING INCLUDING OUR CEMETERIES.

09:46:33 WHAT ELSE?

09:46:35 DO YOU WANT US TO VANISH?

09:46:39 TO BE UP FRONT AND INTEGRITY IS EVERYTHING, BUT YOU

09:46:43 CANNOT SIT UP ON THE DIE IS AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE --

09:46:45 DAIS AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE TO BE ADDRESSED

09:46:47 VERY FAST AND ATTENTIVE.

09:46:51 COMING DOWN EVERY WEEK ASKING FOR THINGS, AND IT SHOULD

09:46:51 BE SAD.

09:46:57 WHERE IS EVERYBODY'S MORALS -- THE MORALS THAT YOU WERE

09:47:01 BROUGHT UP ON EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY AND

09:47:03 TREATED THE SAME.

09:47:04 FAIR OAKS, LOOK AT THAT SITUATION.

09:47:07 NONE OF YOU IN THE DAIS WOULD ALLOW YOUR FAMILY AND

09:47:11 KIDS TO COME TO THAT FACILITY BECAUSE NOT UPDATED.

09:47:14 NOTHING FOR THE KIDS TO DO AND THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THEM

09:47:16 ON THE CORNER.

09:47:19 NO UP TO DATE BASKETBALL COURT, FACILITIES TO READ,

09:47:21 RESEARCH OR DO ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE.

09:47:23 THEY GO ON THE STREETS.

09:47:28 ANY OF THESE NEW FACILITIES AROUND AND HAVE HIGH-STAKES

09:47:30 STATE-OF-THE-ART EQUIPMENT SO THE KIDS CAN PROSPER.

09:47:34 WE ARE DEMANDING THAT OUR KIDS VIDEO THE SAME THING TO

09:47:38 ELOQUENT TO DO AND BE GREAT CITIZENS FOR THE SOCIETY

09:47:39 AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BECAUSE WE

09:47:42 ARE NOT GOING NOWHERE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO COME DOWN

09:47:45 HERE UNTIL WE GET SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

09:47:48 DAISES TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY DESERVES

09:47:50 THE PIECE OF THE PIE.

09:47:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:47:52 WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:47:54 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:47:55 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:48:01 REVEREND TIMOTHY J. KEMPER PEACE PROGRESSIVE CHURCH AT

09:48:02 EAST LAKE AVENUE.

09:48:05 I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CLERGY AND A CONCERNED CITIZEN

09:48:09 FOR THE RESIDENTS AT TAMPA PARK PLAZA.

09:48:12 AND WHAT I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL WITH A COMPREHENSIVE

09:48:15 EFFORT WITH ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS IN THE GAME WOULD

09:48:20 DEVELOP A PLAN WHEREBY THOSE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE

09:48:23 AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO GO TO.

09:48:26 AND HAVE MONIES ALLOCATED SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE

09:48:27 THAT TRANSITION.

09:48:31 AND WILL CONTINUE TO ASSIST THEM AS IT HAS BEEN

09:48:34 PREVIOUS STATED WITH THEIR MONTHLY BILL PAY OF WATER,

09:48:37 ELECTRIC AND THINGS OF THOSE NATURE.

09:48:40 I CAN RECALL DR. KING ONCE SAYING, THE TIME IS ALWAYS

09:48:42 RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

09:48:46 AND WE REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS FULL, BUT WE

09:48:50 ASK THAT YOUR HEART BE OPEN TO THE MORAL IMPLICATION OF

09:48:57 NOT DISPLACING THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN LIEU THE

09:48:59 FACT THAT THE SUPER BOWL WILL BE HERE AND WE WANT OUR

09:49:03 LAST GIFT OF THE CITY TO REFLECT THAT WE HAVE UNITY IN

09:49:06 OUR CITY AND CONCERNED ONE OR ALL.

09:49:06 THANK YOU.

09:49:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:49:10 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:49:15 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, VERLINE DRAYTON.

09:49:19 I'M HERE FOR MY PEOPLE, THE BLACK PEOPLE.

09:49:23 34TH, JACKSON HEIGHT AREA, EAST TAMPA.

09:49:24 NO GROCERY STORES.

09:49:26 NO BUSINESSES.

09:49:29 NOTHING.

09:49:30 NOTHING.

09:49:37 YOU GOT TO GO TO EAST HILLSBOROUGH, NEBRASKA, EAST

09:49:38 HILLSBOROUGH, TEMPLE TERRACE.

09:49:45 I GREW UP ON 34 AT FAIR OAKS.

09:49:50 NO FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, NO FIRE SPRINKLERS.

09:49:50 IT IS UNSAFE.

09:49:53 ONE LADY SPOKE AT THE FAIR OAKS MEETING WHEN THEY HAD

09:49:56 IT AND THE MAYOR DIDN'T SHOW UP.

09:50:01 SHE SAID SHE SPENT $60 TO SEND HER MOTHER TO ANOTHER

09:50:04 REC CENTER BECAUSE FAIR OAKS IS NOT SAFE FOR HER

09:50:05 MOTHER.

09:50:08 NOT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PRIVILEGE TO SEND THEIR PARENT

09:50:11 OR THE ELDERLY TO A SAFER ENVIRONMENT.

09:50:14 WHY NOT WE MAKE EAST TAMPA SAFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

09:50:15 THERE.

09:50:17 BRING THE GROCERY STORES BACK.

09:50:19 DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM US.

09:50:20 WE ARE HERE TO STAY.

09:50:24 I ECHO FROM EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HAS SPOKEN, WE ARE HERE

09:50:24 TO STAY.

09:50:26 WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, THE BLACK AND THE BROWN,

09:50:29 ESPECIALLY THE BLACK, WE ARE GOING TO STAY HERE.

09:50:33 AS FAR AS THESE ROUNDABOUTS?

09:50:34 LEAVE THEM.

09:50:37 NOT GET A FAIR OAKS, DON'T BRING A ROUNDABOUTS.

09:50:40 IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET A NEW FAIR OAKS, DON'T BRING

09:50:41 THE ROUNDABOUTS.

09:50:46 LEAVE THAT AS IT IS IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE US A

09:50:47 NEW FAIR OAKS.

09:50:50 AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.

09:50:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

09:50:52 WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:50:56 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:50:58 >> GOOD MORNING, JERRY ROBINSON.

09:51:00 I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA PARK.

09:51:05 AND I AM ONE WHO WILL BE IN NEED OF A PLACE TO GO HERE

09:51:06 SHORTLY.

09:51:12 AND I DO KNOW THAT TIME IS NOT IN OUR FAVOR SO I WOULD

09:51:17 JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM GLAD TO KNOW THAT -- THAT WE

09:51:20 HAVE SUPPORT BECAUSE AT ONE POINT I FELT LIKE I WAS

09:51:24 HERE BY MYSELF JUST TRYING TO JUMP OUT AND RUN AND SEE

09:51:28 WHERE I CAN GO, WHAT I CAN HANDLE, WHAT I CAN DO.

09:51:30 BUT NOT JUST MYSELF.

09:51:32 I AM A SINGLE PERSON THERE.

09:51:33 SINGLE RESIDENT.

09:51:37 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AM SURROUNDED BY GOOD NEIGHBORS

09:51:41 AND FAMILIES AND HAVE TO WONDER WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE

09:51:42 LIKE FOR THEM.

09:51:43 IT IS NOT EASY.

09:51:48 AND IT IS NOT A GOOD THOUGHT TO LOOK AT LEAVING THE

09:51:52 COMMUNITY THAT I AM IN OPINION PACK UP AND GO AND FIND

09:51:53 ANOTHER PLACE TO GO.

09:51:56 BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS HARD -- IT IS GOING TO BE HARD FOR

09:51:59 ME AND IT IS REALLY GOING TO BE HARD FOR MY NEIGHBORS

09:52:03 AND THE FAMILIES IN THE AREA.

09:52:06 SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I JUST HOPE

09:52:11 THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP THE

09:52:16 PEOPLE, HELP THE RESIDENTS THERE TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE

09:52:22 TO GO AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT ONCE WE LEAVE

09:52:24 THERE, THINGS CHANGE.

09:52:27 HOW WE PLAY BILLS.

09:52:33 YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR RENT.

09:52:34 THOSE THINGS.

09:52:37 ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE IMPORTANT TO US AND HOW ARE WE

09:52:39 GOING TO COPE WITH THOSE THINGS.

09:52:43 AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I AM GLAD TO HAVE THIS

09:52:46 MOMENT TO HAVE SPOKEN.

09:52:53 AND I DO THINK AND I DO HOPE THAT SOMEONE WILL COME

09:52:58 FORWARD WITH SOME IDEAS, SOME PLANS, AND ASSISTANCE AS

09:53:01 TO HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED AT THIS POINT.

09:53:02 THANK YOU.

09:53:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

09:53:05 WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:53:06 NEXT, PLEASE.

09:53:07 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:53:10 I AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, THE PASTOR OF TRINITY

09:53:12 AND FAITH MINISTRY.

09:53:15 WE ARE FACING A HEALTH CRISIS HERE IN THE CITY OF

09:53:16 TAMPA.

09:53:22 THE HOUSING IS A BASIC FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT FOR HUMANS.

09:53:26 THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SAFE HAVEN, A PLACE TO LIVE.

09:53:30 WE ARE LOOKING -- WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO YOU DO IS THE

09:53:32 PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT IT.

09:53:34 THE LCC THAT BOUGHT IT, THEY ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE

09:53:38 THIS SAME COUNCIL ASKING FOR ZONING.

09:53:40 THEY ARE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR PERMITS.

09:53:44 YOU NEED TO BE SAYING NO AND GET AHEAD OF THIS THING

09:53:47 AND TELL THEM THAT THEY NEED TO FURNISH RELOCATION

09:53:48 MONEY.

09:53:52 WE NEED TO HAVE EXTENSION ON THE RELOCATION.

09:53:56 WE ALSO -- I AM GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE CRA AND MR.

09:53:59 CARLSON, I AM SORRY YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE MEETING

09:54:04 AND I DID GET YOUR MEETING, JOSEPH CITRO, COUNCILMAN

09:54:07 CITRO, WE ARE GLAD YOU CAME OUT.

09:54:10 $10 MILLION OVER IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY URBAN

09:54:10 DEVELOPMENT.

09:54:14 THIS COUNCIL CAN ASK THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT TO OFFSET

09:54:17 SOME OF THE COSTS OF THE PEOPLE HAVING TO MOVE.

09:54:20 I DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND CONTINUE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS IS

09:54:21 A PRIVATE DEAL.

09:54:26 YES, IT IS A PRIVATE DEAL, BUT IT IS A CITY PROBLEM.

09:54:31 BECAUSE 300-PLUS PEOPLE NOVEMBER 1, WHAT IS GOING TO

09:54:31 HAPPEN?

09:54:33 THEY WILL BE SITTING OUT ON THE STREETS.

09:54:36 DO YOU THINK THEY ARE JUST GOING TO SIT PATIENTLY AND

09:54:38 WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO COME AND SWEEP THEM UP?

09:54:39 NO.

09:54:42 SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING -- AND THIS HAS ALREADY STARTED,

09:54:45 THE MOMENTUM, THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

09:54:46 IT CAN BE DONE.

09:54:50 WE SEE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS -- LIKE A SNAP OF THE FINGER

09:54:54 HAS COME IN TO SUPPORT THE CORONAVIRUS, SO WE KNOW WE

09:54:57 CAN FIND MONEY WHEN WE WANT TO FIND MONEY FOR THE

09:55:00 PROJECT THAT'S WE WANT TO HAVE DONE.

09:55:02 WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO GET AHEAD OF THIS.

09:55:08 LET THEM KNOW NOTHING WILL BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY

09:55:11 UNTIL THEY MAKE SURE THAT EACH AND EVERY PERSON IS

09:55:13 RELOCATED PROPERLY.

09:55:16 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS BEING AFFECTED.

09:55:19 THAT -- NOVEMBER 1 IS THE TIME, THE END OF THE QUARTER

09:55:22 FOR THE KIDS IN SCHOOL.

09:55:22 THEY ARE TESTING.

09:55:26 YOU ARE LOOK AT THANKS GIVING.

09:55:27 YOU ARE LOOKING AT CHRISTMAS.

09:55:31 BUT PEOPLE WITH NOT VOTE IF THEY ARE WORRIED AND OUT

09:55:33 THERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE.

09:55:36 SO WE ARE ASKING THIS COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN, AND

09:55:40 ESPECIALLY THE COUNCILMEN FROM DISTRICT 5 TO PROBABLE

09:55:43 ACTIVE, GET IN FRONT OF -- I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU

09:55:44 LIKE ME OR NOT.

09:55:48 IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU AND I, IT IS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY

09:55:51 AND THE ONLY REASON YOU DON'T LIKE ME BECAUSE I AM

09:55:52 BEING VOCAL.

09:55:55 I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE VOCAL.

09:55:57 I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT.

09:56:02 AND NEED BE, WE WILL WRAP A HUMAN CHAIN AROUND TAMPA

09:56:06 PARK UNTIL EVERY LAST PERSON HAS A SAFE PLACE TO GO.

09:56:10 SO TO THAT END, CITY COUNCIL, LET'S DO OUR JOB AND

09:56:11 PROTECT THE PEOPLE.

09:56:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

09:56:13 WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:56:15 NEXT PLEASE.

09:56:16 COUNCILMAN.

09:56:18 >>BILL CARLSON: BISHOP PATTY.

09:56:20 YOU SAID 320 PEOPLE.

09:56:25 ISN'T IT 320 FAMILIES AND 1200 PEOPLE?

09:56:25 >> YES.

09:56:27 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE

09:56:30 DISPLACED ON THE WEST BANK?

09:56:33 WASN'T IT A SIMILAR NUMBER, 1,000.

09:56:37 >> TALKING ABOUT --

09:56:38 >>BILL CARLSON: THE BOULEVARD HOMES.

09:56:39 BOULEVARD HOMES.

09:56:43 THE ONES THAT ARE NOW BEING DEVELOPED?

09:56:45 >> ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT.

09:56:47 >>BILL CARLSON: SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK

09:56:50 ABOUT THIS MORE, BUT THAT ONE, THE CITY HAD INFLUENCE

09:56:54 OVER AND NOW THERE ARE HIGH-END HOMES --

09:56:56 >> YOU STILL HAVE INFLUENCE.

09:56:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE, BUT AN

09:57:02 ISSUE IN A HUGE MAGNITUDE THAT HOUSING AUTHORITY CAME

09:57:05 HERE AND SAID A SHORTAGE OF 50,000 PEOPLE AND WE ADDED

09:57:07 1200 MORE TO IT.

09:57:10 >> CORRECT, SIR.

09:57:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, LET ME ADDRESS SOMETHING.

09:57:17 I THANK MR. CARLSON FOR HIS COMMENTS, BUT I HAVE BEEN

09:57:20 BEHIND THE SCENE TALKING TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE

09:57:22 COMMISSION ON SOME THINGS THAT HE HAS ALREADY BEEN

09:57:26 WORKING ON IN REFERENCE TO THIS DAY THAT MAY COME.

09:57:28 I ALSO HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH HOUSING TO FIND OUT WHAT

09:57:31 THE ISSUES ARE AND HOW WE CAN HELP.

09:57:33 I DIDN'T GET A PERSONAL PHONE CALL TO COME TO THE

09:57:38 MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT LIKE MR. CITRO AND MR. CARLSON.

09:57:40 I HAD TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN ANOTHER MEETING I WAS AT

09:57:44 RECORDING FDOT AND ALL THE CITIZENS AND THOSE THAT WERE

09:57:46 PRESENCE AT THAT MEETING THAT I HAD TO BE AT.

09:57:49 BUT I DID MAKE THE ATTEMPT AFTER KNOWING ABOUT THAT

09:57:52 MEETING RUSH OVER -- IT WAS BREAKING UP.

09:57:55 BUT I DID GO BY THERE TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS AND

09:57:57 LEADERS KNOW I HAVE THAT A CONCERN.

09:57:59 AND I WAS HERE FOR THEM.

09:58:01 SO LET'S MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT.

09:58:04 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ILL-WILL BETWEEN ME

09:58:05 AND MICHELLE PATTY.

09:58:08 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MISS PATTY, BUT THE FACT OF THE

09:58:11 MATTER IS, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS THING

09:58:11 WORK.

09:58:13 THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WE CAN'T DO.

09:58:15 AND WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO.

09:58:19 I SAY THAT ON THE DAIS WHAT WE CAN DO.

09:58:21 I AM GOING TO GET IN FRONT OF IF -- AND I HAVE BEEN IN

09:58:24 FRONT OF IT AND MAKE THIS CLEAR AND THIS BOARD KNOW

09:58:24 THAT'S.

09:58:27 AND IT IS MY DISTRICT AND I WORK HARD FOR MICE

09:58:27 DISTRICT.

09:58:31 AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK HARD FOR MY DISTRICT AND WE

09:58:33 WILL BE IN FRONT OF IN MISS PATTY.

09:58:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY.

09:58:37 >> JENEL LAVAR SCOTT.

09:58:43 I AM A MILITARY VETERAN'S SON -- WHO ABANDONED -- I MET

09:58:44 HIM THREE DAYS AGO.

09:58:46 I MET HIM ON FACEBOOK.

09:58:50 TO GIVE YOU UNDERSTANDING, YOU HAVE BEEN GOING FOR

09:58:51 ALMOST 30 MINUTES.

09:58:55 ONE OF GOING ALMOST 30 MINUTES WHILE THESE PEOPLE WERE

09:58:57 BRINGING CONCERN TO THE COUNCIL.

09:59:00 I HAVE GOT A VIDEO RECORDING OF YOU GUYS GIVING NOT ANY

09:59:03 ATTENTION BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO LOOK A MAN IN A EYE

09:59:05 WHEN THEY ARE TALKING.

09:59:08 Y'ALL SHOW NOTHING BUT COMPLETE DISRESPECT FOR EVERY

09:59:10 ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT TALK.

09:59:12 AND GOD SENT ME TO THIS NATION.

09:59:16 BORN AND RAISED HERE ON THE 23RD DAY, THE NINTH MONTH

09:59:19 AND THE 83 YEAR.

09:59:27 I AM THAT WATCHMAN, THE EZEKIEL WATCHMAN TO COME TO MY

09:59:30 PEOPLE TO WAKE UP AGAINST THE DIVERSE SPIRITS THAT ARE

09:59:31 BEFORE US.

09:59:33 WICKED AND UNCLEAN SPIRITS BEFORE US.

09:59:37 YOU GUYS HAVE NO CARE TO DO NOTHING FOR THESE PEOPLE TO

09:59:38 TALK ABOUT.

09:59:41 I GOT THE SERMON OF SPIRITS.

09:59:44 I KNOW WHAT IS IN EACH ONE OF YOUR HEARTS, NOTHING BUT

09:59:46 DISCORD, LIES AND DECEIT.

09:59:48 NOTHING BUT THAT.

09:59:50 YOU PLAN TO KILL BLACK PEOPLE.

09:59:53 ASK THE LORD OF HOSTS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT IT.

09:59:55 YOU GOT A PLAN TO KILL US BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING FOR

09:59:58 US.

10:00:04 JUST FEEL'S LIKE Y'ALL YOUR NUMBER SIX TO A NINE.

10:00:09 SIX SCRIPTURES TO THE FIRST SOLOMON, BLESS OF THE

10:00:14 UNGODLY STAND IN THE WAY OF SINNERS AND SIT IN THE SEAT

10:00:16 OF THE SCORNFUL BUT IN DELIGHT OF THE LAW OF THE LORD.

10:00:19 AND IN HIS LAW, HE MEDITATE DAY AND NIGHT AND HE SHALL

10:00:24 BE LIKE -- OF THE RIVER OF WATERS AND THROUGH HIS

10:00:24 SEASON.

10:00:26 IT IS Y'ALL SEASON TO BE UP.

10:00:29 I AM JUST LETTING YOU KNOW AND FOR WHATEVER HE DO SHALL

10:00:29 PROSPER.

10:00:31 YOU DON'T LIKE THE WORD "ACCOUNTABILITY."

10:00:35 ACCOUNTABILITY MEANS TAKING AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR

10:00:36 ONE'S ACTION.

10:00:42 YOU KNOW KIRBY RAINSBERG IS A LOUSY LEGAL ATTORNEY

10:00:44 BECAUSE I HAVE ISSUE HE HAS NOT CALLED ME BACK FOR

10:00:46 SEVERAL DAYS.

10:00:51 ISSUES HE HAS NEVER E-MAILED ME BACK FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

10:00:54 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS YET TO GET

10:00:58 BACK WITH ME ABOUT A SCAR ON MY RIGHT SHOULDER THAT

10:01:00 THEY SOUGHT TO DO.

10:01:05 THAT THEY SOUGHT TO PULL MY PANTS DOWN AND GO INTO MY

10:01:06 ANAL.

10:01:08 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT ARE

10:01:08 TRUE?

10:01:11 ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST LIKE I AM?

10:01:14 WHERE IS YOUR REFERENCE AND RESPECT TOWARD ANYTHING

10:01:16 BESIDES YOURSELF!

10:01:18 THE LORD OF HOSTS SAID IT BEFORE.

10:01:21 HE IS GOING TO WIPE Y'ALL CLEAN.

10:01:25 HE SAID ALL OF ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED.

10:01:32 NOT BUN OF IS WORD -- I SPEAK FOR THE BLACK PEOPLE.

10:01:35 I AIN'T --

10:01:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:01:39 THANK YOU, PLEASE.

10:01:42 >> IF KIRBY RAINSBERG IS --

10:01:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR TIME UP.

10:01:46 >> YEAH, YOUR TIME IS UP TOO.

10:01:47 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT PLEASE.

10:01:53 >> GOOD MORNING GERALDINE ROGERS.

10:01:56 TO DISCUSS CONCERNS OF THE 34TH STREET ROAD IMPROVEMENT

10:01:59 PROJECT AND POTENTIAL OF ROUNDABOUTS HAVING A NEGATIVE

10:02:00 IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

10:02:03 ALSO, THERE IS A DISPARITY IN HOW THE CITY OF TAMPA

10:02:08 DETERMINE ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR CERTAIN

10:02:08 COMMUNITIES.

10:02:13 THE MOST DANGEROUS ROADS DOCUMENTED BY THE MPO BOARD

10:02:16 DID INCLUDE 34TH STREET; HOWEVER, THE MOST EXTREME

10:02:20 MEASURES ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM

10:02:22 THAT MIGHT NOT EXIST.

10:02:28 HAS ANY ROAD STUDY CRASH REPORTS BEEN ON 34TH STREET

10:02:30 SINCE 2011?

10:02:33 IF SO, WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF THE STUDIES?

10:02:37 IT IS A KNOWN FACT THAT 34TH STREET IS NOT ONE OF THE

10:02:40 MOST DANGEROUS ROADS IN TAMPA.

10:02:45 STUDIES HAVE SHOWN 30% INCREASES IN ACCIDENTS AT ROUNDS

10:02:45 ABOUT.

10:02:48 WHICH CREATE A HEALTH AND SAFETY PROBLEM FOR OUR

10:02:50 COMMUNITY.

10:02:55 IN MY OPINION, EXPOSING YOUNG CHILDREN TO THIS COMPLEX

10:02:58 ROAD DESIGN IS NEGLIGENT.

10:03:01 PEOPLE IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN METROPOLITAN AREA CALL

10:03:05 ROUNDABOUTS "DEATH TRAPS."

10:03:09 THE EAST TAMPA AREA APPEARS TO BE BEARING THE BURDEN OF

10:03:12 ROUNDABOUTS BEING INSTALLED.

10:03:16 OF THE 27 ROUNDABOUTS AND CIRCLES ON PUBLIC ROADS IN

10:03:21 TAMPA, OVER 40% OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICT 5.

10:03:22 WITH NO MORE TO COME.

10:03:25 YOU KNOW TEN OF THEM ARE ON PRIVATE ROADS, RIGHT?

10:03:29 A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF ROUNDABOUTS ARE BEING

10:03:30 INSTALLED IN EAST TAMPA.

10:03:33 YOUR APPROACH IN ADDRESSING TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS

10:03:34 APPEARS TO BE BIASED.

10:03:37 ENSURING PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE NUMBER ONE

10:03:39 PRIORITY.

10:03:42 YOU ALLOW THE CHANNEL DRIVE COMMUNITY TO HAVE

10:03:46 CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OPTIONS FOR SAFETY MEASURES.

10:03:51 NEITHER WERE ROUNDABOUTS INSTALLED ON THE HIMES AVENUE

10:03:54 PROJECT OR PLANT STREET ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

10:03:59 WE DESERVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY TO BE GIVEN OPTIONS ON

10:04:03 SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE 34TH STREET CORRIDOR.

10:04:07 AGAIN, CITIZENS SHOULD BE THE PARAMOUNT CONCERN.

10:04:10 THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THE TRACK A PERSON LIVE ON

10:04:11 SHOULDN'T MATTER.

10:04:13 ALL HUMAN LIFE HAS VALUE.

10:04:13 THAT IS IMPORTANT.

10:04:16 I FORGET THAT ARTICLE IN THE PAPER WHERE ONE OF YOU

10:04:19 MADE A REFERENCE TO BAYSHORE.

10:04:22 ROUNDABOUTS ARE PERCEIVED TO BE A SOLUTION TO TRAFFIC

10:04:26 PROBLEMS ON 34TH STREET; HOWEVER, IT IS JUST LIKE

10:04:27 TAKING MEDICINE.

10:04:31 MEDICATION IS TAKEN TO ADDRESS ONE CONDITION, BUT

10:04:35 OFTENTIMES SIDE EFFECTS FROM THE MEDICATION CREATES

10:04:36 ANOTHER PROBLEM.

10:04:37 I PRAY.

10:04:38 I REALLY DO.

10:04:40 I PRAY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH THE 34TH STREET

10:04:41 ROUNDABOUTS.

10:04:43 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

10:04:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:04:45 WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:04:47 NEXT, PLEASE.

10:04:50 AND IS THIS INDIVIDUAL TO BE THE LAST PERSON FOR PUBLIC

10:04:50 COMMENT?

10:04:51 OKAY.

10:04:53 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:04:55 >> GOOD MORNING, LINDA AKEN.

10:04:59 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S

10:05:03 PROPOSAL ABOUT PARKING ENFORCEMENT.

10:05:07 IT IS -- IT IS MY HOPE THAT THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND

10:05:11 LAWS ON THE BOOKS CAN BE ENFORCED TO MAKE TAMPA A SAFER

10:05:12 FLIES PARK.

10:05:16 I PERSONALLY LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND CONFRONT ON A

10:05:20 DAILY BASIS PEOPLE PARKED ILLEGALLY TOO CLOSE TO

10:05:22 DRIVEWAYS, IN INTERSECTIONS, TOO CLOSE TO THE

10:05:29 INTERSECTIONS NEXT TO STOP SIGNS AND MARKED "NO

10:05:31 PARKING" ZONES.

10:05:37 AND THE IDEA OF TAKING POLICE COVERAGE AWAY TO ENFORCE

10:05:40 PARKING REGULATION THAT'S I AM PRETTY SURE PEOPLE ARE

10:05:43 WELL AWARE OF BECAUSE MOST OF THEM I AM GUESSING HAS

10:05:47 TAKEN DRIVER LICENSE CLASSES AND NEEDED TO GET YOUR

10:05:50 DRIVER LICENSES, BUT IT CREATES A DANGEROUS SITUATION

10:05:53 FORCING DRIVERS TO PULL INTO INTERSECTIONS TO BE ABLE

10:05:56 TO SEE IF THEY CAN PULL INTO INTERSECTIONS.

10:06:01 SO IT PUTS OTHER DRIVERS, PEDESTRIANS, AND BICYCLISTS

10:06:02 AT RISK.

10:06:06 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN -- IN FOR OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S

10:06:12 PROPOSAL TO EXPAND PARKING REGULATION ENFORCEMENT.

10:06:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

10:06:15 WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:06:16 OKAY.

10:06:18 ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR

10:06:21 RECONSIDERATION OF ANY LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?

10:06:25 OKAY, MOVING NONE, COMMITTEE REPORTS, CONSENT AGENDA

10:06:27 ITEMS.

10:06:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO, PUBLIC SAFETY.

10:06:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:06:35 MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 4-7.

10:06:36 >> SECOND.

10:06:40 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO,

10:06:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:06:43 ANY OPPOSED.

10:06:48 NEXT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS.

10:06:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 8-12 -- 14, SORRY.

10:06:53 8-14.

10:06:57 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY

10:06:59 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:07:03 ANY OPPOSED.

10:07:04 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:07:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE 15-23.

10:07:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:07:10 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:07:11 SECT BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:07:12 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:07:14 ANY OPPOSED.

10:07:16 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:07:17 24-28.

10:07:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 24-28.

10:07:21 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:07:23 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:07:25 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:07:26 ANY OPPOSED.

10:07:27 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:07:30 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM 29-40.

10:07:32 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:07:33 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:07:34 ANY IN FAVOR?

10:07:36 OPPOSED?

10:07:43 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, OMITTING 41 AND 46.

10:07:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 42-45 AND 47-48.

10:07:50 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:07:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:07:53 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:07:54 ANY OPPOSED?

10:07:55 OKAY.

10:07:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR HOUSEKEEPING PURPOSES,

10:08:02 CONTINUE EYE THEM IN NUMBER 41 IF STAFF HAS NO

10:08:04 OBJECTION UNTIL 3/19.

10:08:07 >>LUIS VIERA: WE ALREADY DID THAT ON YOUR BEHALF.

10:08:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:08:13 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION FOR 49.

10:08:16 >> THE REVIEW HEARINGS FOR 49 AND 50.

10:08:18 BOTH FOR MAY 7 AT 10:30.

10:08:21 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND

10:08:25 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:08:26 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:08:27 ANYONE OPPOSED.

10:08:28 10:06 HERE.

10:08:31 YOU KNOW, LET'S.

10:08:37 LET'S GO AHEAD -- MR. SHELBY, QUESTION, IF I OPEN UP

10:08:42 PUBLIC HEARINGS, MAY I AT 10:30 CLOSE SAID PUBLIC

10:08:45 HEARINGS I GUESS FOR STAFF REPORTS?

10:08:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN OPEN YOUR 9:30 PUBLIC

10:08:48 HEARINGS.

10:08:51 DO THE SECOND READS AND GET TO THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO

10:08:54 CUT INTO THE 10:30 SUSPEND THAT.

10:08:55 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO THAT.

10:08:58 MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30.

10:09:01 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND

10:09:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:09:04 ANYONE OPPOSED?

10:09:06 MOVE TO ITEM 51.

10:09:07 I AM SO SORRY.

10:09:09 I ALWAYS FORGET THIS.

10:09:12 SPEAKING ON QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM.

10:09:17 STAND IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO AND BE PREPARED TO SWORN

10:09:18 IN.

10:09:34 [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

10:09:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, I GOT TO SPEND MORE TIME IN

10:09:37 MIAMI.

10:09:41 ITEM 51.

10:09:43 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:09:45 CATE WELLS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE.

10:09:49 ITEM 51 SECOND READING OF ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE

10:09:50 APPROVED FEBRUARY 6.

10:09:53 IT DEALS WITH THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS FOR NONMOTORIZED

10:09:56 VEHICLES AS WELL AS OTHER LARGER VEHICLES LIKE

10:09:58 RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.

10:10:00 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:10:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:10:01 OKAY.

10:10:02 THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:10:05 ANYONE ELSE FOR ITEM 51?

10:10:06 YES, SIR.

10:10:07 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:10:08 STEVE MICHELLINI.

10:10:13 WHEN THIS ISSUE FIRST CAME UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I

10:10:17 WAS ASKED TO DO SOME RESEARCH REGARDING THE WIDTH OF

10:10:21 MOTORIZED VEHICLES COVERED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE AND I

10:10:24 PROVIDED A LIST OF OVER 50 PASSENGER VEHICLES AND

10:10:30 TRUCKS LIKE FORD F-150S, SILVERADOS AND RAM THAT'S WILL

10:10:32 BECOME ILLEGAL TO BE PARKED ON THE STREET.

10:10:35 AND I ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE

10:10:40 SO IT WAS NOT 80 INCHES BUT SOMETHING RATHER TO 85

10:10:43 INCHES HERE IS MY CONCERN.

10:10:47 IS THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL GO OUT IF A NEIGHBOR

10:10:49 COMPLAINS OF ANOTHER NEIGHBOR PARKING ON THE STREET AND

10:10:52 SUDDENLY THEY GET A CITATION AND THEY END UP IN CODE

10:10:55 ENFORCEMENT AND TAKES MONTHS TO GET OUT OF THAT.

10:10:59 THEY WILL BE CITED IF YOU PASS THIS WITH AN 80-INCH

10:11:00 REQUIREMENT.

10:11:04 LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS ADVISED ME THAT 80 INCHES IS

10:11:06 ALREADY IN THE CODE AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ADDRESS IT

10:11:07 AT THIS TIME.

10:11:10 I DID PROVIDE THEM WITH THE ACCESS TO THE NATIONAL

10:11:12 MOTOR VEHICLE DIMENSIONS.

10:11:18 AN ACCESS THAT YOU CAN GO TO I WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE

10:11:21 YOU THE LIST BUT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE TOYOTAS, FORDS,

10:11:24 MERCEDES, BMW, JAGUAR.

10:11:27 I STOPPED AFTER 50.

10:11:29 JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS CORRECT TO GO

10:11:33 FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT BANNED ALL THESE

10:11:35 PASSENGER VEHICLES AND SMALL VEHICLE TRUCKS TO MAKE

10:11:38 THEM ILLEGAL AND SUBJECT TO CITATION.

10:11:43 SO I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE ORDINANCE IS BAD IN ITSELF

10:11:46 BUT THE DIMENSION OF THE WIDTH OF VEHICLE SHOULD BE

10:11:51 ADDRESSED AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE LEGAL

10:11:52 DEPARTMENT DO THAT.

10:11:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:11:54 ANYONE ELSE.

10:11:57 >> GOOD MORNING, MIKE PETERSON, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS

10:12:01 COUNSEL FOR THE TAMPA REALTORS.

10:12:03 WE SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ARE PUTTING FORWARD.

10:12:07 I MUST SAY WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE TIME YOU DECIDE TO ADD

10:12:12 IN OVERSIZED VEHICLES THAT YOU WERE INDEED USING A

10:12:13 STANDARD THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

10:12:17 SO I KNOW THAT WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY AWARE IT IS A

10:12:20 PROBLEM AS MR. MICHELLINI WAS RAISED FOR YOU.

10:12:23 WE CLEARLY WERE CONCERNED OF TRULY OVERSIZED VEHICLES

10:12:28 WHETHER IT BE WINNEBAGOS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

10:12:32 IF YOU WANT TO TWEAK THE WIDTH STANDARD A LITTLE BIT WE

10:12:34 DON'T HAVE PROBLEM OF THAT.

10:12:36 BUT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROBLEM WE HAD WITH THESE

10:12:40 TRAILERS AND OR OVERSIZED VEHICLES CLOGGING UP THE

10:12:41 STREETS OF MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.

10:12:44 WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR EFFORT BUT CERTAINLY DON'T

10:12:47 OPPOSE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MICHELLINI RAISED.

10:12:47 THANK YOU.

10:12:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:12:49 OF COURSE YOU MAY.

10:12:51 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:12:55 ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 51?

10:12:57 MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:13:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION OF MR. MICHELLINI.

10:13:08 MR. MICHELLINI, APPRECIATE YOU LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE

10:13:11 NOTHING IN FOR YOU AND LOOKING FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.

10:13:14 I PULLED UP MY F-250.

10:13:18 I GOOGLED IT UP AND SAID IT WAS 78 INCHES WIDE.

10:13:22 WITH THE MIRRORS IT IS WIDER BUT THE BODY IS 78 INCHES

10:13:26 AND I PULLED UP A DODGE PICKUP AND SAID 79 AND A HALF

10:13:27 INCHES.

10:13:29 AGAIN WITH THE MIRRORS.

10:13:30 IT IS WIDER.

10:13:32 SO I DON'T KNOW.

10:13:35 I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND WE DON'T WANT -- WE

10:13:39 DON'T WANT TO PASS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD PUT

10:13:43 STANDARD VEHICLES YOU KNOW AT JEOPARDY, BUT I WONDER IF

10:13:46 THEY INCLUDED MIRRORS.

10:13:48 >> ON THE DIMENSIONS THAT I HAD, IT WAS THE BODY OF

10:13:53 VEHICLES SO THAT YOU HAD, LIKE, A LARGER SUVS,

10:13:57 NAVIGATORS OR THINGS LIKE THAT IN EXCESS OF 80 INCHES.

10:14:01 THE ONLY CONCERN IS, WHEN YOU GET TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

10:14:04 AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THAT -- IN THAT

10:14:08 SEAT, IT IS UP TO THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE

10:14:11 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO SAY, OKAY, I THINK THIS IS 80

10:14:13 INCHES.

10:14:16 TAKE OUT A SCALE -- TAKE OUT A MEASURING TAPE AND SAYS

10:14:18 IT 80 INCHES.

10:14:21 NOTHING IN THAT DEFINITION THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE

10:14:21 MIRRORS.

10:14:25 I AM NOT TRYING TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH

10:14:27 WATER, BUT PERHAPS GOING FORWARD, YOU CAN ASK TO HAVE

10:14:31 IT AMENDED SO THERE IS A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT

10:14:32 WIDTH MEANS.

10:14:34 DOES IT MEAN INCLUDING THE MIRRORS?

10:14:36 DOES IT INCLUDE NOT THE MIRRORS.

10:14:40 AND I JUST THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED A LITTLE

10:14:41 MORE CLOSELY.

10:14:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

10:14:44 >> JUST BECAUSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINTS.

10:14:47 YOU GET NEIGHBORS WHO GET UPSET, AND THEY START CALLING

10:14:47 IN.

10:14:51 AND YOU END UP IN A SIX-MONTH PROCESS TO GET IT

10:14:52 STRAIGHTENED OUT.

10:14:55 AND AGAIN I DON'T HAVE A CLIENT IN THIS REGARD.

10:14:58 I JUST THOUGHT THAT THE DIMENSION WAS WRONG.

10:15:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T

10:15:05 THINK THERE IS ANY URGENCY TO THIS PARTICULAR

10:15:07 ORDINANCE.

10:15:10 IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I

10:15:13 APPRECIATE MR. CARLSON BRINGING IT FORWARD.

10:15:16 I THINK PERHAPS WE CAN DEFER IT FOR TWO WEEKS TO LOOK

10:15:20 AT THIS ISSUE AND EXPLORE THE SPECIFICATIONS OF VARIOUS

10:15:25 TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT MR. MICHELLINI HAS POINTED OUT.

10:15:29 AND I AM SURE LEGAL OR STAFF, YOU KNOW, COULD REVISIT

10:15:36 THAT AND BRING IT BACK IN TWO WEEKS UNLESS HIS DOWD

10:15:37 SEES --

10:15:40 >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION THIS IS NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT

10:15:43 BUT TICKET BY TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

10:15:46 IT IS NOT A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

10:15:51 THE 80 INCHES THAT MR. MICHELLINI SAID IT IS ALWAYS IN

10:15:53 THE CODE AND WE ARE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THAT NUMBER.

10:15:56 REFERRING TO THE DEFINITION OF STATUE OF MOTOR VEHICLE

10:15:59 TO CAPTURE THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES THAT COUNCIL HAD

10:16:00 EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT.

10:16:02 IF YOU WERE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER, I WOULD ASK

10:16:06 FOR A FOUR-WEEK CONTINUANCE BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF

10:16:10 WORK TO TURN SOMETHING AROUND IN TWO WEEKS IS IN A

10:16:11 CHALLENGE, THANK YOU.

10:16:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS MR. CARLSON HAS ANY

10:16:16 SIGNIFICANT OAKS TO FOUR WEEKS AS INDICATED BY COUNCIL,

10:16:20 I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS FOUR WEEKS.

10:16:23 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFOREHAND, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WANTS TO

10:16:23 SPEAK.

10:16:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING

10:16:30 THAT MR. DINGFELDER BROUGHT UP.

10:16:32 AND YOU WANT 30 DAYS AT LEAST.

10:16:35 >> AT LEAST, THANK YOU.

10:16:38 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU AMENDABLE?

10:16:40 >> WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC MULTIPLE MEETINGS TO

10:16:41 ASK FOR THIS.

10:16:45 BASED ON THE LEGAL OPINION, I DON'T SEE WHY WE HAVE TO

10:16:49 -- SEEM LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE APPLICABLE.

10:16:52 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO STUDY IF IT IS THE SAME AMOUNT IT

10:16:53 HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

10:16:55 ISN'T THAT A SEPARATE ISSUE WE SHOULD ADDRESS?

10:16:58 WE WOULD BE GOING BACK SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE

10:16:59 PREVIOUSLY.

10:17:02 THIS IS JUST REFERRING TO CERTAIN KINDS OF VEHICLES.

10:17:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS I WOULD ADD TO MY MOTION WE

10:17:10 REVISIT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE AS WELL WITH REGARD TO

10:17:12 THAT 80-INCH MEASUREMENT.

10:17:17 A MONTH FROM NOW LEGAL STAFF WILL SAY 80 INCHES IS THE

10:17:19 STANDARD AND WE LOOKED AT THE VARIOUS SPECIFICATIONS

10:17:23 AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND WE ARE STILL RECOMMEND 80

10:17:24 INCHES.

10:17:29 BUT I THINK INSTEAD OF PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS

10:17:33 THAT MIGHT BE WRONG AND REVISITING IT WITH AN AMENDMENT

10:17:38 AT A LATER DATE, I WOULD RATHER WAIT A MONTH.

10:17:39 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE.

10:17:41 YES, SIR?

10:17:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT THE LAST SPEAKER OF PUBLIC

10:17:45 COMMENT.

10:17:47 DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK OF THE PUBLIC HEARING?

10:17:49 I WASN'T CLEAR.

10:17:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM 51 TO SPEAK?

10:17:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, SOMETHING THAT IS

10:17:58 OUTSIDE 30 DAYS WOULD BE THE APRIL 2 MEETING, BUT YOU

10:18:00 HAVE THE APRIL 16 MEETING.

10:18:04 IF YOU NEED -- IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONTINUED TO A

10:18:05 SPECIFIC DATE AND TIME.

10:18:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, IT WOULD BE.

10:18:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APRIL 2.

10:18:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

10:18:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APRIL 2 AT 9:30.

10:18:20 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION -- AND COUNCILMAN GUDES HAVE

10:18:21 SECONDED THAT.

10:18:24 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND SECOND BY

10:18:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:18:26 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:18:28 ANY OPPOSED?

10:18:30 OKAY.

10:18:35 ITEM 52.

10:18:41 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING

10:18:43 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

10:18:48 THEY HAVE BEEN CORRECTED AND SENT IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE

10:18:50 AND EUCLIDIAN.

10:18:51 NO SITE PLAN TO BE TURNED IN.

10:18:53 CORRECTIONS VIDEO BEEN MADE FOR THE STAFF REPORT AND

10:18:56 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE?

10:18:57 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:18:58 ANY QUESTIONS.

10:18:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:19:03 ANYONE HERE FOR 52?

10:19:07 >> WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,

10:19:10 REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER FOR ITEM 52.

10:19:15 I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR PATIENCE AND TO

10:19:16 THE FINISH LINE ON THIS ONE.

10:19:19 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:19:20 >> NO, NONE.

10:19:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:19:26 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52?

10:19:28 MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:19:29 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:19:32 ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.

10:19:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WILL YOU TAKE ITEM 52.

10:19:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.

10:19:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ON ITEM 52?

10:19:41 NOBODY?

10:19:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:19:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES IN REGARD FILE NO. REZ 19-66,

10:19:51 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

10:19:57 ORDINANCE OF GENERAL VICINITY OF 110 AND 112 SOUTH

10:20:02 WILLOW AVENUE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RM-4, RESIDENTIAL

10:20:08 MULTIFAMILY TO PD RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDED AN

10:20:09 EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:20:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND

10:20:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --

10:20:18 >>LUIS VIERA: APOLOGIZE.

10:20:27 VOICE.

10:20:33 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

10:20:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO

10:20:36 MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

10:20:40 AND I JUST WANT WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, SHOUT OUT TO

10:20:45 THE PROPERTY OWNER/DEVELOPER AND THIS COUNCIL FOR

10:20:49 WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL

10:20:51 AS COUNCILMAN ON OUR CONCERNS.

10:20:54 AND TWEAKING THIS TO BE THE BEST POSSIBLE PROJECT IT

10:20:54 CAN BE.

10:20:58 AND WE WISH YOU LUCK ON THAT.

10:20:59 I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

10:21:01 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:21:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:21:04 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:21:06 ANY OPPOSED?

10:21:06 OKAY.

10:21:19 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 53.

10:21:20 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:21:25 MY NAME IS MARIA GARCIA AND REPRESENT BUILDING YORK.

10:21:28 AS RECOMMENDED BY COUNCIL, MR. YORK MET WITH THE OWNER

10:21:32 HAVING THE ISSUE WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, AND ALL HIS

10:21:35 -- ALL HIS CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED.

10:21:41 AND FOR MR. GALLARD, 4311 WEST VIRGINIA, AND HIS

10:21:47 CONCERN CONTINUES TO BE WITH NORTH COOLIDGE -- NORTH

10:21:48 MANHATTAN.

10:21:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:21:50 ANYTHING RIGHT.

10:21:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON NORTH COOLIDGE A LOT OF SEMI

10:21:57 TRAILER DEPOT WHERE YOU PARK OVERNIGHT.

10:21:59 WHEN IT IS FULL, THEY PARK ON STREET.

10:22:02 I SEE THAT EVERY DAY WHEN I AM COMING IN FROM OLDSMAR.

10:22:03 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAYING.

10:22:04 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

10:22:06 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

10:22:07 THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:22:11 ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAK ON ITEM 53?

10:22:14 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:22:16 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:22:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:22:20 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:22:22 OPPOSED.

10:22:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:22:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-102, REZONING IN

10:22:36 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 43134 NORTH MANHATTAN AVENUE IN

10:22:38 THE CITY TAMPA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

10:22:43 SECTION 1 ARE ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG TO CI

10:22:45 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:22:47 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY

10:22:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:22:53 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:23:00 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH -- BE A DENT.

10:23:01 >>LUIS VIERA: 54.

10:23:05 CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL HORNER, NORTH DALE

10:23:13 MABRY HIGHWAY REPRESENTING WESTIN HOTEL AND APPRECIATE

10:23:14 STAFF AND PRIOR APPROVAL.

10:23:15 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:23:17 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC FOR ITEM 54.

10:23:19 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

10:23:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.

10:23:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

10:23:26 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY

10:23:26 MANISCALCO.

10:23:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND

10:23:33 READING FOR PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 7627

10:23:39 WEST COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY AND ZONING

10:23:44 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HOTEL AND CG TO

10:23:47 HOTEL RESTAURANT AND ALL CG USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

10:23:48 DATE.

10:23:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:23:50 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, A

10:23:53 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:24:01 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:24:07 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES.

10:24:10 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD.

10:24:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE TO MOVE.

10:24:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:24:16 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:24:18 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:24:19 SIR?

10:24:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOUR FOR KEEPING US INFORMED.

10:24:25 MANY THAT SAY PARKING LOTS -- PARKING GARAGES CANNOT BE

10:24:29 CONVERTED INTO LIVABLE SPACES, AND THIS IS GOING TO

10:24:31 PROVE THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT.

10:24:34 PLEASE KEEP US INFORMED ON THIS.

10:24:35 >> WILL DO, SIR.

10:24:39 >>LUIS VIERA: 55.

10:24:43 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION.

10:24:47 ANY OPPOSED?

10:24:54 MORNING, DAVID LAMB FOR KIMLEY-HORN ASSOCIATE.

10:24:59 I'M HERE TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF FILE NO. REZ

10:25:01 19-106.

10:25:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

10:25:04 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON 55.

10:25:06 A MOTION TO CLOSE.

10:25:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.

10:25:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:25:10 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR.

10:25:12 ANY OPPOSED?

10:25:15 COUNCILMAN CITRO, TAKE THIS ITEM.

10:25:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 55, CORRECT.

10:25:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

10:25:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION IN THE

10:25:27 GENERAL VICINITY OF 612 NORTH DALE MABRY IN THE CITY OF

10:25:31 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

10:25:36 SECTION 1 PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESTAURANT TO PD

10:25:39 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALL CG USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

10:25:40 DATE.

10:25:44 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY

10:25:45 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:25:50 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:25:52 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

10:25:53 >>LUIS VIERA: 56.

10:26:02 ANYONE HERE FOR 56?

10:26:07 >> REQUESTING REZONING REZ 19-111.

10:26:10 I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE

10:26:13 APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.

10:26:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:26:15 ANY QUESTIONS?

10:26:15 OKAY.

10:26:17 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

10:26:20 ANYONE ON ITEM 56.

10:26:21 IF SO, MOVE FORWARD.

10:26:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CLOSE.

10:26:26 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND

10:26:27 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:26:28 ALL IN FAVOR.

10:26:30 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, TAKE THIS ITEM.

10:26:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 56, REZ 19-111.

10:26:41 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING REZONING PROPERTY IN

10:26:45 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1210 WEST LINEBAUGH AVENUE IN

10:26:48 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

10:26:52 SECTION 1 ARE ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50, TO

10:26:56 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS OFFICE

10:26:58 PROVIDING AN FICTIVE DATE.

10:27:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

10:27:02 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:27:05 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:27:07 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:27:11 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRYINGS UNANIMOUSLY.

10:27:13 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM 57?

10:27:17 ANYONE HERE FOR 57?

10:27:22 >> GOOD MORNING RYAN MCCAFFREY WEST LEMON STREET TAMPA,

10:27:23 FLORIDA.

10:27:25 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND OWNER.

10:27:28 I JUST WANT TO DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE CHANGES

10:27:30 THAT WERE REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

10:27:34 THE AREA IN GREEN REPRESENTS THE LIMITS TO PLACES WHERE

10:27:42 THE DAY CARE CAN OPERATE WITH ITS PLAY FACILITIES.

10:27:46 THE AREA WITH THE RED LINE WILL BE THE FENCE AND SO ALL

10:27:50 THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO PLACE PLAYGROUND FACILITIES

10:27:57 ON THIS SITE WILL BE FURTHER AWAY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.

10:27:58 WE APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL.

10:28:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:28:01 ANY QUESTIONS?

10:28:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:28:02 WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:28:04 ITEM 57?

10:28:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.

10:28:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

10:28:13 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY

10:28:14 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:28:17 TAKE THIS COUNCILMAN.

10:28:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GUDES AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY

10:28:24 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY 6460 TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD IN

10:28:27 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY

10:28:29 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT

10:28:33 CLASSIFICATION CU COMMUNITY UNIT TO PD PLANNED

10:28:36 DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND DAYCARE.

10:28:39 PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:28:41 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:28:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO SECOND IS THE

10:28:43 MOTION.

10:28:48 THE LAST TIME WE HEARD THIS AT FIRST READING, I VOTED

10:28:49 AGAINST IT.

10:28:52 I WAS CONCERNED OF THE NEIGHBORS' OBJECTIONS ESPECIALLY

10:28:55 WHEN IT RELATED TO NOISE AND TRAFFIC, BUT IT APPEARS

10:28:59 LOOKING AT THE REVISED SITE PLAN THAT THE TRAFFIC IS --

10:29:01 WILL BE LIMITED BUT SPECIFICALLY NOW THAT THEY HAVE

10:29:05 IDENTIFIED IN THE GREEN BOX THAT ALL THIS ACTIVITY WILL

10:29:09 BE ON THE SIDE THAT IS AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS, I WILL

10:29:10 SUPPORT THE MOTION.

10:29:12 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.

10:29:14 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:29:15 DID YOU SECOND THAT?

10:29:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:29:22 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:29:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND VIERA VOTING

10:29:25 NO.

10:29:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:29:32 EYE THEM IN NUMBER 58 -- ITEM NUMBER 58.

10:29:34 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:29:38 >> JAKE KRAMER WITH STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER, EAST

10:29:41 JACKSON STREET REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

10:29:42 REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.

10:29:46 WE MET WITH THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

10:29:49 AND YOU DIRECTED YOU AND HAD GOOD CONVERSATION AND

10:29:53 LISTENED TO THEIR CONCERNS AND WORKED THROUGH THEM AND

10:29:56 THEY LET ME KNOW A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THEY ARE NOT

10:29:58 OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.

10:29:59 ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

10:30:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:30:03 GO YOU AHEAD, SIR.

10:30:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. KRAMER, I HOPE YOU WERE NOT

10:30:08 PICKED UPON REQUESTING THAT YOU MEET WITH THE

10:30:08 NEIGHBORS.

10:30:12 WE ENCOURAGE ALL DEVELOPERS TO MEET WITH THE

10:30:16 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OVER AND ABOVE SENDING THEM

10:30:19 NOTICE ON A PROJECT THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME IMPACT.

10:30:22 >> I HAVE TO ADMIT THE FAULT WAS MINE.

10:30:24 NORMALLY I DO REACH OUT TO THEM ON THE OWN.

10:30:27 I WAS CONFUSED AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS AN

10:30:28 ASSOCIATION AND AN ALLIANCE.

10:30:30 SO WE MET WITH THEM.

10:30:31 AND I KNOW FOR NEXT TIME.

10:30:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE APPRECIATE IT.

10:30:34 THANK YOU.

10:30:36 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

10:30:37 THANK YOU, SIR.

10:30:40 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 58.

10:30:43 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND BY

10:30:44 CITRO.

10:30:45 ANY OPPOSED?

10:30:48 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, TAKE THIS ONE.

10:30:52 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NO. REZ 20-7.

10:30:57 ADOPTION ORDINANCE IN SECOND READING 302 AND 306 NORTH

10:31:00 HOWARD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE

10:31:03 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING

10:31:07 DISTRICT C G COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED

10:31:11 DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED, MEDICAL OFFICE.

10:31:14 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:31:21 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:31:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:31:28 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM 59.

10:31:32 NOT THINK IN ONE WILL GO AS SPEEDY AS THE PRIOR ONE.

10:31:35 WE WILL MOVE AND GO FOR 12:30.

10:31:36 59.

10:31:40 >> JAKE KRAMER FOR STEARNS, WEAVER AND MILLER.

10:31:43 HERE FOR MY PARTNER.

10:31:45 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:31:48 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59?

10:31:51 A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:31:53 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:31:54 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:31:58 ANY OPPOSED IN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, TAKE THIS ONE,

10:31:59 SIR.

10:32:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, REZ 20-08.

10:32:08 IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2525 NORTH DALE MABRY

10:32:11 HIGHWAY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE

10:32:14 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

10:32:20 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STRIP

10:32:23 SHOPPING CENTER AND RESTAURANT TO PD PLANNED

10:32:26 DEVELOPMENT ALL CI USES AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

10:32:27 DATE.

10:32:29 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

10:32:33 PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

10:32:36 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:32:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:32:39 STAFF REPORTS.

10:32:43 A REMINDER BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH IN ROUGHLY TWO

10:32:46 HOURS MORE OR LESS WE WILL TAKE 63 AND 64 WITH THE

10:32:53 INCLUSION OF THE INTERPRETER ON TO 65 AND ON WARD.

10:32:54 THE STAFF REPORTS.

10:32:58 BEGINNING WITH 65.

10:33:05 AND WHO WAS HERE FOR 65?

10:33:07 ANYONE?

10:33:11 LET'S -- LET'S CONTINUE 65 UNTIL LATER TODAY THEN UNTIL

10:33:14 WHOEVER WAS SUPPOSED TO COME FOR THAT ONE COMES.

10:33:20 ON 66, I SAW MISS AUSTIN HERE.

10:33:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 65 LOOKS LIKE MAYBE MISS GLOVER.

10:33:47 >> I THINK SHE IS OUTSIDE.

10:33:48 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT, 65.

10:33:50 GOOD MORNING.

10:33:57 >> GOOD MORNING, CHRISTINE GLOVER, CITY AUDITOR.

10:33:58 >> THANK YOU.

10:33:59 THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

10:34:02 AND FOR EVERYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW, THE ISSUE IS

10:34:04 LOOKING AT SINGLE BID CONTRACTS.

10:34:08 I WAS CONCERNED WHEN WE STARTED THAT A HIGH NUMBER OF

10:34:11 HIGH NUMBERS THAT WE WERE APPROVING ON THE CONSENT

10:34:14 AGENDA HAD ONE BID AND I HAVEN'T SEEN AN AGENCY BEFORE

10:34:18 THAT APPROVE SO MANY SINGLE BIDS.

10:34:20 I UNDERSTAND ONE COMPANY OFFICE A CERTAIN KIND OF

10:34:24 CHEMICAL AND OTHER PRODUCT, BUT TOO MANY THAT CAME

10:34:25 BEFORE US THAT DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT.

10:34:28 YOU AND I HAD A PRIVATE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

10:34:31 BUT ANY MORE INSIDE YOU CAN GIVE US BUT THE SHORT

10:34:34 REPORT THAT WE GOT?

10:34:34 >> NO, SIR.

10:34:40 WE LOOKED AT THE PROCESS THAT RESULTED IN SINGLE BIDS.

10:34:45 AND WORKED WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF

10:34:49 THERE ARE SOME OTHER ACTION THAT'S THEY CAN TAKE TO

10:34:52 MAYBE HELP ELIMINATE THE SINGLE BIDS.

10:34:56 AND THAT IS ALL DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT WE PROVIDED.

10:34:59 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU TELL US IN LOOKING AT THE

10:35:01 PERIOD -- I THINK IT WAS THREE YEARS.

10:35:04 DID YOU -- I DIDN'T SEE IN A REPORT HOW MANY OR WHAT

10:35:05 PERCENTAGE WAS SINGLE BID.

10:35:07 DO YOU HAVE THAT?

10:35:10 >> SIR, WE DIDN'T DO A FULL-BLOWN AUDIT.

10:35:14 WE DID LIKE A NONAUDIT SERVICE TO BASICALLY ADDRESS

10:35:15 WHAT YOU ASKED US.

10:35:19 WE DIDN'T PULL REPORTS AND PROVIDED THAT SHOW ALL THE

10:35:23 VOLUME OF SINGLE BIDS.

10:35:26 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE I AM -- MAYBE I WILL MAKE A

10:35:28 MOTION ON THAT LATER JUST TO TRY TO GET THAT NUMBER.

10:35:29 BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

10:35:34 MY CONCERN WHICH I -- I MENTIONED BEFORE AND I SAID TO

10:35:40 THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS THAT IF -- AT LEAST ONE NEWS

10:35:44 OUTLET HAS SAID THAT THE FBI IS LOOKING AT LOCAL

10:35:45 GOVERNMENTS.

10:35:49 AND THEY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT

10:35:52 ENOUGH RUMORS HOW THINGS WERE DONE IN THE LAST EIGHT

10:35:56 YEARS, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THEM LOOKING AT THE CITY.

10:35:59 AND IF THEY LOOK AT THE PRACTICES OF WHAT HAPPENED

10:36:01 UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

10:36:05 WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PROTECT

10:36:06 OURSELVES FROM ANY OF THAT.

10:36:10 AND AS I SAID TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF, HE IS A FORMER

10:36:10 POLICE OFFICER.

10:36:12 THE MAYOR IS A FORMER POLICE OFFICER.

10:36:16 AND WE ALL ON THIS BOARD WORRY ABOUT ETHICS AND

10:36:17 ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC.

10:36:21 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PROCESSES ARE BEING

10:36:25 FOLLOWED CORRECTLY.

10:36:29 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:36:30 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:36:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:

10:36:36 >> MR. SPEARMAN, READ MY MIND.

10:36:39 I WAS GOING TO INVITE OUT TO PODIUM TO SPEAK TO THIS

10:36:40 ISSUE.

10:36:43 I AM INTRIGUED BY THE PARAGRAPH FROM MISS GLOVER SAY

10:36:45 THAT PURCHASING IS IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING

10:36:49 STRATEGY THAT'S WILL MITIGATE AND PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION

10:36:55 TO FURTHER SUPPORT THE CITY'S DUE DILIGENCE THAT THE

10:36:58 PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS COMPETITIVE.

10:36:59 MR. CARLSON.

10:37:02 I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS ISSUE.

10:37:05 THIS IS KIND OF A PETTISH OFF MINE AT LEAST A DECADE OF

10:37:06 SERVICE ON THIS COUNCIL.

10:37:09 I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE AGENDAS AND SCRUTINIZED WITH MANY

10:37:14 PHONE CALLS TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ABOUT SINGLE BIDS,

10:37:17 ABOUT RENEWALS ETC.

10:37:19 , AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

10:37:23 AND I WILL APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT AS WELL.

10:37:26 WITH THAT SAID, I WILL PREEMPT MR. SPEARMAN A LITTLE

10:37:30 BIT TO SPEAK TO HIS INTEGRITY.

10:37:33 THIS IS A MAN WHO IS NATIONALLY KNOWN IN THE PURCHASING

10:37:34 WORLD.

10:37:37 BY THE WAY I THINK THIS IS NATIONAL PURCHASING MONTH, I

10:37:38 THINK.

10:37:42 I HAVE OVER IN GREG FOR 20 YEARS, AND I RESPECT AND

10:37:45 ADMIRE HIS PROFESSIONALISM PROFESSIONALLY.

10:37:48 WITH THAT RESPECT WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER AND GREG WILL

10:37:50 TELL US HOW.

10:37:53 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

10:37:56 TO PUT THIS BEFORE YOU GREG SPEARMAN, PROCUREMENT

10:37:57 DIRECTOR.

10:38:00 TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:38:03 WE RUN AN OPERATION THAT IS FULL OF INTEGRITY, ETHICS

10:38:06 AND PROFESSIONALISM.

10:38:08 WE DO NOT PLAY POLITICS.

10:38:12 WE DO NOT PLAY WITH THE BID PROCESS PERSONALLY.

10:38:14 THERE ARE LIABILITIES FOR ME BECAUSE OF MY

10:38:18 CERTIFICATION AND AS WELL THE STAFF, THE FBI, THE CIA,

10:38:20 ANYBODY, I INVITE THEM TO COME HERE.

10:38:21 WE WELCOME THAT.

10:38:23 YOU WILL NOT FIND ANYTHING THAT IS DONE

10:38:27 UNPROFESSIONALLY OR THAT IS NOT DONE CORRECTLY.

10:38:31 I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT.

10:38:33 IN TERMS OF THE REPORT THAT MISS GLOVER PREPARED FOR

10:38:33 YOU.

10:38:36 EVERYTHING WE HAVE OUTLINED FOR YOU WILL BE SOME OF THE

10:38:40 CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES UNDERWAY WE GET A SINGLE

10:38:41 BID RESPONSE.

10:38:44 LET ME RUN THROUGH THOSE FOR YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO

10:38:47 ELABORATE ON THESE TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL INSIGHT.

10:38:51 NUMBER ONE, THE CURRENT IMPROVED ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT.

10:38:53 I HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS OVER 30 YEARS.

10:38:56 I CAN TELL YOU THIS, WHEN THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING, YOU

10:39:00 SEE LESS VENDORS INTERESTED IN GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS,

10:39:05 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO AFTER THE MORE LUCRATIVE IN THE

10:39:06 PRIVATE IS SECTOR.

10:39:10 WHEN THE ECONOMY IS DOWN, YOU WILL SEE AN AVALANCHE OF

10:39:14 INTERESTED BIDDERS ON GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS.

10:39:16 THIS IS HOW IF WORKS.

10:39:20 WE ARE IN A BOOMING ECONOMY AND SOME IMPACT ON SINGLE

10:39:20 BIDS.

10:39:29 NUMBER TWO, THE NOTIFICATION PLATFORMS VENDORS HAVE A

10:39:32 PLETHORA OF PLACES TO GET BIDS.

10:39:38 EVERY GOVERNMENT ENTITY HAS THEIR OWN UNIQUE PLATFORM

10:39:42 AT THE GET SO INUNDATED WITH BID ANNOUNCEMENT.

10:39:46 NOT ONE SINGLE UNIVERSAL PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO FOR

10:39:48 ALL BIDS.

10:39:50 WE SHOWS THE MAN STAR BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE MOST

10:39:53 POPULAR PLATFORMS THAT HAS ONE OF THE MOST HIGHEST

10:39:56 NUMBER OF BIDDERS THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH ANY

10:39:57 PARTICULAR PLATFORM.

10:40:00 WE USE THAT ONE, OKAY.

10:40:01 THE THIRD BULLET.

10:40:05 RECENT CHANGES IN IDENTIFICATION AND INSURANCE.

10:40:07 WE ARE MEETING WITH LEGAL AND WITH THE RISK MANAGEMENT

10:40:10 DEPARTMENT NEXT TUESDAY BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN

10:40:16 COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CITIES INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE

10:40:17 AND INSURANCE POLICY.

10:40:20 THAT IS PROBABLY THE SINGLE MOST CONSISTENT COMPLAINT

10:40:26 WE GET, INSURANCE AND INDEMNIFICATION.

10:40:29 AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT NEXT WEDNESDAY.

10:40:32 SHELTER MARKET AND SOLICITATIONS.

10:40:36 VERY NONE OF THOSE RESPONSES, EVEN THOUGH MAKING

10:40:41 MULTIBIDS, WE GET ONE SINGLE BIDS.

10:40:43 THEN LASTLY, MARKET FORCES BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

10:40:46 I CAN TELL YOU, COUNCIL, IF YOU SPEAK WITH SUPPLIERS

10:40:51 PRIVATELY, THEY WILL TELL YOU I DON'T BID IN TAMPA

10:40:52 MARKET.

10:40:54 AN MY COMPETITORS DON'T BID IN MY MARKET.

10:40:55 WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

10:40:58 IT IS UP TO THE BIDDERS IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY ARE

10:41:00 GOING TO BID AND WHAT MARKET.

10:41:03 WE CAN'T CONTROL THE MARKET FORCES AS MISS GLOVER

10:41:04 POINTED OUT.

10:41:06 WHAT HAVE WE DONE SINCE THAT TIME?

10:41:09 WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY'S COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT

10:41:12 TO POST OUR BIDS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

10:41:16 AND I HAVE THIS REPORT FROM MISS ANGELA PITTS.

10:41:23 DATED JANUARY 23, 2020 ON FACEBOOK, FACEBOOK ALONE WE

10:41:29 HAVE ALONE OVER 17,000 HITS SURROUNDING BIDS FOR THE

10:41:38 CITY OF TAMPA AND ON TWITTER 58,377 HITS.

10:41:41 COUNSEL.

10:41:43 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LOOKED AT IT BUT THEY ARE THERE.

10:41:49 BUT THERE IS NO SECRET IN TERMS OF EXPOSURE AND GETTING

10:41:50 THE WORD OUT.

10:41:52 AND FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AND WE ADVERTISE IN THE

10:41:53 NEWSPAPER.

10:42:00 AND ONE OTHER THING.

10:42:02 AND BID DOCUMENTS.

10:42:03 MY NAME IS THERE.

10:42:06 MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS HERE AND MY FAX NUMBER, NOT TO

10:42:08 MENTION THE PERSON WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDLING

10:42:10 THAT BID IN PURCHASING.

10:42:13 THEIR NAME AND E-MAIL ADDRESS IS HERE.

10:42:17 IF ANYBODY HAS AN ISSUE, THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY

10:42:19 FOR THEM TO REACH OUT AND TALK TO PURCHASING.

10:42:23 HERE IS SOMETHING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

10:42:25 WE INCLUDE IS A STATEMENT OF NO BID.

10:42:27 LET ME READ THAT TO YOU.

10:42:31 IT SAYS WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK BECAUSE IT MATTERS TO US.

10:42:34 THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT'S MISSION IS TO PROVIDE THE

10:42:39 BEST SPECIFICATIONS IN OUR BID AND PROPOSALS TO RECEIVE

10:42:42 MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION FROM THE INDUSTRY/MARKET.

10:42:50 PLEASE TAKE A MINUTE TO BRIEFLY NOT RESPONDING ON THE

10:42:52 CITY'S BIT AND REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.

10:42:56 WHAT MORE CAN I DO, COUNCIL?

10:42:58 WE ARE DOING ALL THAT CAN BE DONE AND SHOULD BE DONE TO

10:43:01 GET COMPETITION.

10:43:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?

10:43:04 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:43:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS

10:43:07 YOU ARE SAYING.

10:43:10 I HEARD PEOPLE SAY IN REFERENCE TO THE OUTSIDE MARKETS

10:43:13 PAYING MORE THAN THE GOVERNMENT MARKETS ARE PAYING.

10:43:16 BUT I STILL CONTEND -- AND WE HAD THE CONVERSATION --

10:43:18 >> YES, WE DID.

10:43:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- I STILL THINK WE CAN IMPROVE ON

10:43:24 LIKE HAVING A COMPLIANCE OFFICERS LOOKING AT THE RFPS

10:43:27 TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE TOTALLY IN COMPLIANCE.

10:43:31 THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER WITH THE PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE

10:43:34 THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RFP ORDER.

10:43:38 AS A OLD-TIME POLICE OFFICER, SEE IT IS HOW YOU WRITE

10:43:39 THINGS.

10:43:41 IT IS HOW YOU WRITE THINGS.

10:43:44 IT IS HOW YOU CAN MAKE THOSE DIFFERENT WORDS TO CHANGE

10:43:49 WHERE YOU MAYBE ONLY GET A SINGLE BIDDER ON HOW YOU

10:43:49 WRITE THINGS.

10:43:52 I BELIEVE THAT A COMPLIANCE OFFICER -- I KNOW YOU ARE

10:43:52 UNDERSTAFFED.

10:43:56 I HOPE WE CAN GET YOU MORE PEOPLE IN THAT OFFICE.

10:43:58 ALL THE PROJECTS COMING ON BOARD.

10:44:02 I SAY WE NEED A COMPLIANCE OFFICER TO LOOK AT THE RFPS

10:44:04 BEFORE THEY GET TO YOU AND MAKE SURE THOSE NUMBERS ARE

10:44:08 INCREASED IN THOSE BIDS FROM MINORITY CONTRACTS, AND

10:44:12 THEN ON THE OTHER FLIP SIDE WITH MR. HART'S PORTION,

10:44:15 MAKING SURE THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER IS MAKING SURE THAT

10:44:18 THE WORK THAT WE ASK PEOPLE TO DO, THEY ARE DOING.

10:44:21 SO I CONTEND PROBABLY LATER ON -- I PROBABLY MAKE A

10:44:24 MOTION IN REFERENCE TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.

10:44:25 YOU NEED COMPLIANCE OFFICERS.

10:44:27 SOMETIMES YOU STILL PROTECT THE HOUSE.

10:44:29 WE PROTECT THE HOUSE.

10:44:32 WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY PROTECTING THE HOUSE TO MAKE

10:44:35 HOUR THE RFPS ARE WRITTEN.

10:44:37 AND WRITE SOMETHING VERY CRUCIAL.

10:44:39 WE HAVE A BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS UP HERE.

10:44:41 AND HOW YOU WRITE THINGS.

10:44:43 I BELIEVE IT IS HOW WE WRITE THINGS THAT WILL BE ABLE

10:44:48 TO CHANGE MAYBE A PHILOSOPHY, BUT MAYBE THE WAY WE DO

10:44:51 BUSINESS TO GET SOME OF THOSE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN

10:44:55 SAY, A-HA, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN THERE.

10:44:57 AND WHAT IS OUR CITY CRITERIA?

10:45:01 A STATE CRITERIA OR SOME -- AND TELL THAT YOU MIGHT BE

10:45:05 TOO STRINGENT OF SOME OF THE SMALL SMALLER PEOPLE OR

10:45:07 LITTLE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET THE BID.

10:45:09 I AM GLAD YOU BRING IT UP WITH LEGAL.

10:45:10 WHEN I HEAR OF THE INSURANCE.

10:45:13 THE LITTLE GUY, HE CAN'T GET THERE.

10:45:16 THE MIDDLE GUY MAY TRY, AND HE MAY BE STRUGGLING.

10:45:19 SO THE BIG GUY GETS IT ALL AND HE PICKS AND CHOOSES.

10:45:23 MAYBE WE LOOK AT TIERS AND LOOK AT THE BONDS OF SOME OF

10:45:25 THESE COMPANIES AND INSURANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT

10:45:27 EVERYBODY IS GETTING A PIECE OF THE PIE, BECAUSE

10:45:28 EVERYBODY IS HUNGRY.

10:45:30 I WILL SAY IT.

10:45:33 NOT EVERYBODY IS NOT HUNGRY FOR MONEY.

10:45:37 I ASK THAT WE LOOK AT THAT AND CONTEND THAT BOTH OF THE

10:45:39 DEPARTMENTS NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK IS BEING

10:45:44 DONE THAT WE ASK FOR THEM TO DO AND A RFP IS IN A FORM

10:45:47 THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A CHANCE.

10:45:47 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:45:50 I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU AT ALL ON THAT.

10:45:54 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY DEPARTMENT DOES AND I AM SURE

10:45:59 CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, WE DO LOOK AT THE SCOPE.

10:46:02 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE OPEN

10:46:05 UP IN TO GIVE YOU THE COMPETITION, BUT NOT SO LOOSE

10:46:09 ENOUGH THAT YOU WILL GET SUBSTANDARD BIDS TO COME IN.

10:46:12 WE CAN LOOK AT IMPROVING THAT PROCESS A BIT MORE.

10:46:14 IN FACT ONE OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE SEEING

10:46:17 BEFORE LONG AND I AM COUNTING ON YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.

10:46:20 WE WANT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF OUR

10:46:23 PURCHASING MANUAL THAT WILL OPEN UP EVEN MORE

10:46:26 OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL MINORITY CONTRACTORS.

10:46:29 YOU HAVE CONTRACT ADMIN WHO CAME BEFORE YOU.

10:46:32 A LITTLE WHILE AGO TO ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN THEIR

10:46:33 LIMIT.

10:46:36 SO WE ARE GOING BE TOO COMING BACK AND ASK FOR SIMILAR

10:46:37 KIND OF PROVISIONS.

10:46:41 AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD REASONS BEHIND THAT.

10:46:45 AS AN EXAMPLE, OUR FORMER BID LIMIT IS $25,000.

10:46:49 SO EVERY TIME WE PUT OUT SOMETHING FOR $25,000, I GOT

10:46:52 TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS.

10:46:54 I GOT TO ADVERTISE IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU KNOW, THAT

10:46:58 FORMAL PROCESS IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED AND

10:47:00 CHALLENGING FOR US SMALL CONTRACTORS.

10:47:03 THAT LIMIT NEEDS TO BE HIGHER SO I CAN BID THINGS OUT

10:47:06 INFORMALLY SO I DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS

10:47:08 THAT ARE TYPICALLY PART OF THE FORMAL BID PROCESS.

10:47:11 WITH YOUR SUPPORT IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH THIS

10:47:13 ADMINISTRATION AND IN PARTICULAR PURCHASING, WE CAN

10:47:15 MAKE SOME CHANGES.

10:47:18 SO I AM GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU BEFORE TOO LONG WITH

10:47:20 SOME RECOMMENDATIONS -- CHANGES FOR THE PURCHASING

10:47:22 MANAGER.

10:47:25 AND YOU WILL SUPPORT FOR US, THEN WE CAN ACHIEVE A LOT

10:47:28 MORE OF THE THINGS.

10:47:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND SEE HE

10:47:31 THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

10:47:34 ONE OF THE THINGS -- YOU ALSO LOOK AT WHAT I CALL THE

10:47:37 ACRONYMS IN OUR PROGRAM.

10:47:39 AND I LOOK AT THAT, WE TALK ABOUT THAT.

10:47:41 >> YES, WE DID

10:47:43 >> THE OVERUTILIZATION BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS LIKE A

10:47:45 GAME ON THE FIELD.

10:47:48 AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THESE BIG CONTRACTOR THAT'S WANT

10:47:52 THESE CONTRACTS, BUT WE HAVE TO GO AND PLAY A GAME AND

10:47:58 SAY WE HAVE A WHITE FEMALE, AND NOW I ASK IN QUESTION

10:48:00 BEFORE IN THE BLACK FEMALE CATEGORY.

10:48:01 THERE IS NOT ONE.

10:48:05 IT IS ALL LUMPED INTO AFRICAN-AMERICAN SPOT.

10:48:07 SO I HAVE GOT NO NUMBERS.

10:48:10 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AGAIN -- GOES BACK TO

10:48:13 THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER AND MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT

10:48:15 OVERUTILIZATION AND WE STILL GET A BALANCE.

10:48:17 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HAPPENS.

10:48:19 YOU CAN'T TELL ME IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

10:48:21 SO I AM HOPING THAT YOU TAKE THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT

10:48:24 ALREADY AND PUT THESE THINGS INTO PLAY SO THE PEOPLE IN

10:48:27 THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN UNDERSTAND THIS IS WORKING TO

10:48:29 MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAYING FIELD IS LEVEL.

10:48:34 >> THE AREA MR. HART, AND I AM NOT GOING TO VENTURE

10:48:37 OVER THERE AND RESPOND TO IT, BUT WE WORK TOGETHER AND

10:48:38 HE IS HERE TOMORROW.

10:48:40 I AM SURE HE IS TAKING THOSE COMMENTS AND

10:48:42 RECOMMENDATIONS INTO CONSIDERATION.

10:48:45 AND HOPEFULLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN COME BACK WITH

10:48:49 A BETTER PROCESS FOR YOU, WITH IMPROVED POLICIES AND

10:48:53 PROCEDURES AND ACHIEVE THE GOALS WE ALL WANT TO SEE.

10:48:55 >> IF I MAY I HAVE TO CUT THIS ONE SHORT.

10:48:57 COUNCILMAN CARLSON YOU HAVE TO SPEAK.

10:49:00 BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON YOU SAID 66 IS

10:49:01 RELATIVELY SHORT.

10:49:06 I WANT TO GET 67, 68 AND 69 WITHIN THE NEXT HOUR AND DO

10:49:08 63 AND 64 BEFORE LUNCH.

10:49:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:49:13 >> YEAH, THANK YOU.

10:49:17 I AM NOT GOING TO PLAY ALL OF THE EXAMPLES I HAVE TOLD

10:49:18 AND OBSERVED FROM HERE.

10:49:21 I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH MISS GLOVER AND THE CHIEF OF

10:49:24 STAFF GOING THROUGH THOSE AND I DON'T WANT TO PAY THEM

10:49:26 OUT ON TV OR THE MEDIA.

10:49:30 BUT ONE EXAMPLE, MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IN

10:49:34 THE VERY BEGINNING, ONE OF OUR VERY FIRST MEETINGS --

10:49:37 MEETINGS FOUND ONE THAT THE COMPANY BE WITHIN 30 MILES,

10:49:41 AND IT TURNS OUT THE COMPANY WAS EXACTLY 30 MILES.

10:49:44 AND, AGAIN, WHATEVER HAPPENED ON THE LAST

10:49:46 ADMINISTRATION IS ON THEM.

10:49:48 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS ON US.

10:49:52 I APPRECIATE -- YOU AND I TALKED TO THIS, TOO, AT

10:49:53 LENGTH.

10:49:56 I KNOW YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL AND CREW DENSE AND I

10:49:59 HAVEN'T SEEN AS MANY SINGLE BID CONTRACTS.

10:50:01 AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

10:50:03 YOU ALLUDED TO IN A MINUTE AGO.

10:50:05 THE DIFFERENCE IS THE ADMINISTRATION.

10:50:07 THE ADMINISTRATION -- ATTITUDE OF THE ADMINISTRATION IS

10:50:08 VERY SERIOUS.

10:50:10 THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT ONLY INTERESTED IN

10:50:14 COLLABORATION AND OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BUT

10:50:18 ALSO INTERESTED IN ETHICS AND WITH THAT IN MIND AND NOT

10:50:21 CRITICIZING ANYTHING YOU ARE DOING, ASK MISS GLOVER,

10:50:23 WHAT IF --

10:50:26 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, LET'S TRY TO HURRY IT UP.

10:50:28 >>BILL CARLSON: IF THERE ARE EMPLOYEES WATCHING OR

10:50:30 OTHER PEOPLE WHO KNOW.

10:50:32 WHAT IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PROCESS IN THE CITY OF

10:50:34 TAMPA?

10:50:35 >> WE DO HAVE A HOTLINE.

10:50:39 AND EVERY EMPLOYEE IS GIVEN THAT INFORMATION AS PART OF

10:50:41 EMPLOYEE ORIENTATION.

10:50:46 EVERY AUDIT WE DO, WE ASK AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE

10:50:47 OF AND IT IS POSTED.

10:50:49 THEY CALL IN A HOTLINE.

10:50:52 THE VENDOR -- THE VENDOR SENDS A REPORT TO INTERNAL

10:50:55 AUDIT, AND THAT ALLOWS THE EMPLOYEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

10:50:57 REMAIN ANONYMOUS.

10:51:00 AND FROM FLORIDA, IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, THEY CAN

10:51:03 -- WE LEAVE A MESSAGE WITH THEM AT THE HOTLINE AND THEY

10:51:05 CAN CALL BACK TO THE VENDOR AND GIVE US ADDITIONAL

10:51:06 INFORMATION.

10:51:09 WE HAVE AVAILABLE MATRIX AND THAT DETERMINES HOW WE

10:51:13 HANDLE IT OR SOMETHING WE REFER TO HR AND ACTUAL FRAUD

10:51:17 THAT WE NEED INVESTIGATING AND SOMETHING CRIMINAL AND

10:51:18 DEFER THE TPD.

10:51:21 WE USE THAT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE

10:51:21 ADMINISTRATION.

10:51:25 IF GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF HOW TO HANDLE IT

10:51:29 AND WE INVESTIGATE OR DO WHATEVER WE NEED FROM THAT

10:51:29 PERSPECTIVE.

10:51:30 >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT, THANK YOU.

10:51:35 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE.

10:51:39 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY FAST, MR. SPEARMAN.

10:51:40 20 SECONDS.

10:51:42 >> OTHER NOTICE IN THE RESOLUTION.

10:51:45 WHENEVER THERE IS A SINGLE BID RESPONSE, WE ARE LETTING

10:51:46 YOU KNOW WHY.

10:51:48 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE READING THOSE, BUT THE VENDOR

10:51:52 POOL OF COMPANY THAT DID NOT RESPOND ON THE HOLDER LIST

10:51:55 AND ASKING WHY IS IT YOU DIDN'T BID.

10:51:57 IF YOU START LOOKING AT THE BACKGROUND SECTION, WE ARE

10:52:00 PUTTING IN THERE WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US AND MOST OF

10:52:02 THAT HAD TO DO WITH WHAT WE TALK ABOUT.

10:52:04 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:52:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:52:08 I WAS NOT PART OF THE LAST ADMINISTRATION AND I HAVE

10:52:13 BEEN THE LAST COUNCILMAN FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

10:52:15 SINCE THE FBI WAS MENTIONED I DON'T WANT TO CLOUD OVER

10:52:16 THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:52:20 I WANT THE SUNSHINE AND RAY AND HAPPINESS FOR PEOPLE

10:52:21 WHO COME.

10:52:27 I WILL CALL FOR THE FBI TO DO AN INVESTIGATION ON EVERY

10:52:30 COUNCILMEMBERS AND ANY CELL PHONE CONVERSATION FOR THE

10:52:33 LAST SIX YEARS INCLUDING THIS COUNCIL.

10:52:34 LET THEM COME.

10:52:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WANTED TO ADD TO

10:52:40 THAT AND I WANT TO COMMENT THAT I APPRECIATE OUR

10:52:43 COLLEAGUE AND OUR FRIEND COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S FEELING

10:52:46 ON THE LAST MAYOR, BUT I THINK THERE HAS GOT TO BE A

10:52:49 LINE OF DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE PERSONAL FEELINGS AND

10:52:52 THEN THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SERVE IN THAT ADMINISTRATION.

10:52:54 I DO NOT WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WE ARE GOING TO TALK

10:52:57 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA DEEP STATE.

10:52:59 I DO NOT WANT TO START GETTING THERE.

10:53:05 WHEN THE WORDS "FBI" GET NOTED, AGAIN -- IT'S NOT THAT,

10:53:09 IT IS THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING A LITTLE TOO FAR.

10:53:13 MY IS -- THAT IS JUST MY RESPECTFUL OPINION.

10:53:15 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

10:53:15 ANYTHING ELSE?

10:53:16 THANK YOU.

10:53:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:53:20 ITEM 66.

10:53:24 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:53:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT -- HOPEFULLY WILL TAKE 30

10:53:28 SECONDS.

10:53:30 WANTED YOU JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE ON TV TO SAY YOU WHAT

10:53:33 KIND OF SAID IN THE MEMO.

10:53:37 >>KELLY AUSTIN: GOOD MORNING, KELLY AUSTIN, HUMAN

10:53:37 RESOURCES.

10:53:42 COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO LOOK ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH

10:53:46 IMPLEMENTING ETHICS TRAINING ON A YEARLY BASIS AT

10:53:47 MINIMAL FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS.

10:53:48 THAT WAS THE ASK.

10:53:51 COINCIDENTALLY, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON

10:53:55 RE1R567ING AND REFRESHING ETHICS TRAINING.

10:53:58 THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES US TO TRAIN UPON HIRE.

10:53:59 WE ARE TALKING CITY EMPLOYEES.

10:54:03 WE ARE NOT TALKING ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN

10:54:07 LOOKING AT ADDING A TRAINING MODULE WE WILL DO YEARLY

10:54:11 LIKE ADA AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS.

10:54:13 NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BECAUSE MARKETING AND

10:54:16 COMMUNICATION WILL HELP US WITH THE FILMING AND

10:54:18 RECORDING OF THE UPDATED VERSION.

10:54:20 THE CONTENTS OF THE ORDINANCE HAS NOT CHANGED.

10:54:26 WE WILL REFRESH IT AND HAVE NEW EMPLOYEES IN THE VIDEO.

10:54:26 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

10:54:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

10:54:30 THANK YOU, MA'AM.

10:54:31 >>KELLY AUSTIN: THANK YOU.

10:54:34 >>LUIS VIERA: MY ASPIRATION AND COUNCILMEMBERS, LET ME

10:54:35 KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS.

10:54:38 THIS WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:54:46 GUDES, DO YOU THINK 67 AND 68 WOULD TAKE 30 MINUTES?

10:54:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK SO.

10:54:51 >>LUIS VIERA: LET USES A FIRE.

10:54:52 >> GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.

10:54:59 HERE WITH RESPECT TO 67 AND 68, AN UPDATE YOU REQUESTED

10:55:02 ON MEMORIAL CEMETERY AND ZION CEMETERY.

10:55:07 I'M HERE WITH SCOTT STIGEL WITH OUR STAFF AND

10:55:11 TOYIN HARGRETT.

10:55:14 THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE

10:55:15 IN THE OFFICE.

10:55:18 I WILL ADDRESS MEMORIAL FIRST AND TOYIN WITH ALL THE

10:55:24 HOUSING AUTHORITY WITH RESPECT TO THE ZION CEMETERY.

10:55:28 SHE WILL UPDATE THE ZION CEMETERY AND MORE ON THAT.

10:55:32 WITH ZION -- THE ROBINSON FAMILY OWNED THAT CEMETERY

10:55:34 FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

10:55:38 MR. ROBERTSON PASSED AWAY LAST SUMMER AND AS A RESULT,

10:55:40 WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH HIS ESTATE.

10:55:44 THE STATUS OF THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE

10:55:48 ESTATE HAS ABANDONED THE ABANDONED THE CEMETERY.

10:55:54 NOT CEMETERY, BUT IN PROBATE SOUGHT TO DISCLAIM THE

10:55:57 CEMETERY AS AN ASSET OF THE ESTATE.

10:56:01 THEY REFUSED TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE CEMETERY.

10:56:05 REFUSED OUR SETTLEMENT OFFER OF RESPECT FOR THE BURIAL

10:56:09 RECORD AND PLAN TO TRANSFER TITLE OF THE PROPERTY TO A

10:56:10 SHELL CORPORATION.

10:56:14 HOW WE WONDER HOW CEMETERIES BECOME LOSS, THIS IS HOW

10:56:14 IT HAPPENS.

10:56:17 WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL, WE

10:56:23 ACTUALLY INSTITUTED THREE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TO COMBAT

10:56:23 THIS.

10:56:26 THE PURPOSE OF THE PROCEEDINGS WAS FIRST, WE TRIED TO

10:56:29 FORCE THE ESTATE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY

10:56:30 REFUSED.

10:56:32 SO NOW WE ARE TRYING TO RECOVER THE CITY'S COST,

10:56:36 BECAUSE WE CONDUCTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE

10:56:39 ACTIVITIES AT THE CEMETERY.

10:56:42 I THINK WE HAVE ONE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW.

10:56:44 THAT WILL BE THE FOURTH ONE JUST LAST SUMMER.

10:56:48 WE ARE ALSO WITH THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TRYING TO

10:56:52 PREVENT THE ESTATE FROM ACCESSING THE CARE AND

10:56:55 MAINTENANCE TRUST FUND THAT IS DEPOSITED WITH THE STATE

10:56:56 OF FLORIDA.

10:56:59 WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS

10:57:03 WELL AS THE TRUSTEE OF THAT TRUST FUND TO MAKE SURE IT

10:57:04 IS BEING PROTECTED.

10:57:08 AND THE LAST ITEM, THE LAST PURPOSE OF THE LEGAL

10:57:11 PROCEEDINGS WAS TO ALSO PROTECT THE BURIAL RECORDS.

10:57:15 THE ESTATE HAS CUSTODY OF THE BURIAL RECORDS, AND FROM

10:57:18 WHAT WE KNOW, THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD ORDER AND WE DON'T

10:57:20 KNOW THEY ARE COMPLETE AND WE ASKED THEM TO COMPLETE

10:57:23 THOSE RECORDS, ORGANIZED THEM AND PROVIDE THEM TO US

10:57:27 AND THEY HAVE BASICALLY REFUSED TO DO SO.

10:57:29 MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.

10:57:34 ON THE AGENDA AND IMPROVED IMPOSITION OF THE LIEN FOR

10:57:37 THE MAINTENANCE ALREADY CONDUCTED ALREADY.

10:57:42 ONCE THAT LIEN IS RECORDED ON THE PROPERTY, WE WILL

10:57:44 FORECLOSURE ON THAT LIEN.

10:57:46 WHY DO WE WANT TO FORECLOSURE?

10:57:51 ADDITIONAL LIENS ON THIS PROPERTY AND ADDITIONAL LIENS

10:57:56 AND DON'T WANT TO CAKE CONVEYANCE BECAUSE IT WILL BE

10:57:56 SUBJECT.

10:57:59 WE WILL USE THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS AS A MECHANISM TO

10:58:03 WIPE OUT THOSE EXISTING LIENS AND OBTAIN TITLE.

10:58:07 AFTER WE OBTAIN TITLE, WHAT WE WILL DO IS CONVEY IT TO

10:58:09 A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

10:58:13 THE REASON FOR IS TWO-FOLD.

10:58:15 FIRST OF ALL, WE THINK IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF

10:58:19 THE CITY TO HAVE IT IN A NOT-FOR-PROFIT THAT WILL

10:58:20 FACILITATE FUND RAISING.

10:58:27 A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY WILL WANT FOR A

10:58:30 TRUST FUND FOR A CEMETERY AND YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT

10:58:32 IT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ZION.

10:58:35 THAT WAY THOSE FUNDS THAT ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO

10:58:39 CONTRIBUTE WILL BE DIRECTED SOLELY TOWARD MEMORIAL AND

10:58:41 NOT GIVEN TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

10:58:46 THE OTHER ADVANTAGE OF HAVING TITLE TO THE PROFIT IN A

10:58:47 NOT-FOR-PROFIT.

10:58:50 EITHER THE CITY OR THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT WILL BE ABLE TO

10:58:54 ACCESS THE TRUST FUND MONEY THAT IS DEPOSITED FOR THE

10:58:55 STATE.

10:58:57 WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR THE FUTURE MAINTENANCE OF THE

10:58:57 PROPERTY.

10:59:00 THIS IS FOR A NOT-FOR-PROFIT OR OWNED BY THE CITY.

10:59:03 WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH THE STATE IN WRITING THAT WE

10:59:06 WILL BE ENTITLED TO ACCESS THE MONEY THAT IS BEING

10:59:08 DEPOSITED IN THAT TRUST FUND.

10:59:11 WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON

10:59:13 MEMORIAL.

10:59:15 >> COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

10:59:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEING IN THE BUSINESS, WE TALK

10:59:22 CEMETERIES ARE VERY, VERY TRICKY, ESPECIALLY EXISTING

10:59:23 CEMETERIES.

10:59:25 I KNOW MEMORIAL PARK REAL WELL.

10:59:28 THERE ARE STILL BURIAL PLOTS THAT ARE THERE.

10:59:29 PEOPLE ALREADY PAID YEARS AGO.

10:59:32 SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT DOWN THE ROAD, YOU ARE GOING TO

10:59:33 HAVE TO ADDRESS.

10:59:37 BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY I PAID YEARS AGO FOR

10:59:39 THOSE PLOTS AND I WANT TO GO AND OPENING AND CLOSING

10:59:40 COSTS TO DO.

10:59:44 I LIKE THE FACT YOU ARE GOING AFTER THE CARE TRUST.

10:59:47 GREAT THAT YOU LOOK AT THE NONPROFIT, BUT YOU ALSO --

10:59:50 IF YOU SELECT THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL -- AND THE ROUTE

10:59:53 YOU WANT TO GO TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OF

10:59:55 PEOPLE ON THE BOARD AND MAKING SURE YOU HAVE PEOPLE

10:59:58 FROM THE MORTICIAN ASSOCIATION.

11:00:03 FLORIDA AND THE MORTICIAN ASSOCIATION, SOME OF THE

11:00:06 CASKET COMPANIES AS WELL WILL BE PART OF THAT AND MANY

11:00:11 OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS TO HELP BRING RUN, WHO HELP KEEP

11:00:12 THE CEMETERY UP.

11:00:14 YOU WILL NEED MONEY TO KEEP IT UP.

11:00:16 I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR MEMORIAL.

11:00:18 TO GET THAT MOVING.

11:00:20 SO I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THE IDEA OF GETTING THAT

11:00:21 MOVED.

11:00:24 >> AND YOU ARE CORRECT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

11:00:27 THERE IS MORE TO CARETAKING WITH THE CEMETERY.

11:00:29 IT IS NOT JUST MOWING THE GRASS.

11:00:32 THERE IS PROTECTION ISSUE, SECURITY ISSUE THAT'S YOU

11:00:33 HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

11:00:36 THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CEMETERY AS MR. GUDES

11:00:36 MENTIONED.

11:00:41 THERE ARE BURIAL -- GRANTS OF BURIAL RECORDED AGAINST

11:00:42 THE PROPERTY.

11:00:45 WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER EVERYBODY WHO HAS BOUGHT A PLOT

11:00:49 AT THAT CEMETERY IS BURIED THERE ALREADY AND WHETHER

11:00:53 THERE IS OUTSTANDING GRANTS OF BURIAL DUE TO PEOPLE.

11:00:55 AT SOME POINT, GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE

11:01:00 GRANTS OF BURIAL AND THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.

11:01:02 ALSO IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE PROPERTY

11:01:05 ONE OF WHICH IS A FENCE THAT IS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF

11:01:09 THE PROPERTY, AND YOU DEAL WITH LONG-TERM ONGOING ISSUE

11:01:12 LIKE THE HEADSTONES THAT ARE IN THE CEMETERY AND THE

11:01:14 SUN AND THE WEAR AND THE TEAR AND THE RAIN AND WHETHER

11:01:17 THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE WANT TO ASSUME.

11:01:21 AGAIN, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT CAN STEP UP AND SAY, WHEN

11:01:24 CERTAIN TOMBSTONES START TO BREAK OR CRACK OR

11:01:26 DETERIORATE, AND THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF

11:01:29 MAINTENANCE TO PAY THAT RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

11:01:30 BURIED THERE.

11:01:31 >> THANK YOU.

11:01:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:01:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS GRIMES, THANK YOU TO YOU AND

11:01:40 YOUR STAFF FOR THIS UPDATE.

11:01:44 IT'S OBVIOUSLY A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE ESPECIALLY IN

11:01:49 RECENT, YOU KNOW -- RECENT YEARS IN LIGHT OF ZION, ETC.

11:01:54 THAT WE DILIGENTLY MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN

11:01:59 CEMETERIES WITH THE DIGNITY THAT FOLKS DESERVE.

11:02:03 AND IF THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT STARTED THIS IS NOT

11:02:06 WILLING TO DO IT AND IN CASE THE GENTLEMAN PASSED AWAY

11:02:09 AND HIS FAMILY IS NOT WILLING TO STEP UP AND DO IT,

11:02:12 THEN IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO STEP IN AND

11:02:16 MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, THE FAMILIES AND THE FOLKS

11:02:19 BURIED THERE HAVE THE DIGNITY THAT THEY DESERVE.

11:02:22 THERE IS SOME FINANCIAL LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS,

11:02:25 SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL LIABILITY.

11:02:32 WHEN YOU BRIEFED ME YESTERDAY ON THIS, YOU AND TOYIN.

11:02:36 AND EVEN IF WE GET A HOLD OF THIS TRUST FUND MONEY, IT

11:02:40 IS NOT GOING TO BE ADEQUATE FOR THE LONG TERM PERPETUAL

11:02:44 CARE, AND THAT CONCERNS ME GREATLY IN CONCERNS WITH THE

11:02:47 CITY'S FINANCES.

11:02:48 >> YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THAT.

11:02:50 I AM NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS A MODEL THAT CAN BE

11:02:52 REPEATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

11:02:54 THE CITY IS NOT IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS.

11:02:57 WE DO OWN OTHER CEMETERIES.

11:03:02 AND WE PROVIDE MINIMAL MAINTENANCE AS THOSE CEMETERIES,

11:03:05 BUT THIS ISN'T -- WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING THE WAY WE ARE

11:03:07 RESPONDING TO THIS IS THE WAY WE RECOMMEND TO BE

11:03:11 REPEATED OVER AND OVER, BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE SUSTAINED

11:03:12 FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT.

11:03:15 THE BEST THING TO DO AT THIS STAGE, IN MY OPINION, IS

11:03:19 TO DEAL WITH THEM ONE AT A TIME AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO

11:03:20 WITH EACH ONE.

11:03:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT

11:03:25 CONCERNS ME SP -- AND I AM NOT OPPOSING IT.

11:03:28 I THINK WE DO HAVE TO TAKE IT STEP BY STEP.

11:03:29 WITH REGARD TO THE NONPROFIT.

11:03:32 THE CREATION OF THE NONPROFIT, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, THAT

11:03:35 DOWN THE ROAD, LET'S SAY 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE

11:03:39 CREATE THE -- WE CREATE THE NONPROFIT NOW 15 TO 20

11:03:44 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT NONPROFIT FRITTERS AWAY.

11:03:47 THE PEOPLE ON THE NONPROFIT DIE OFF.

11:03:50 THEY DON'T DO A GOOD JOB OF RAISING MONEY AND SOME

11:03:53 FUTURE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL WILL BE FACED WITH A

11:03:56 NONPROFIT THAT IS GONE DEFUNCT.

11:04:00 AND A CEMETERY THAT IS ABANDONED AGAIN.

11:04:03 GOOD FORBID WE WILL END UP WITH THE ZION SITUATION ALL

11:04:04 OVER AGAIN.

11:04:07 SO I GUESS -- AND I AM NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING THAT

11:04:10 YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT -- BUT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME

11:04:14 SORT OF REVERTER CLAUSE IN THERE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR

11:04:19 AND CONTROL AT LEAST LOOSELY CONTROL AND OBSERVE THE

11:04:22 NONPROFIT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T END UP IN THAT

11:04:27 SITUATION DECADES FROM NOW.

11:04:32 AND ALSO URGE THE STATE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO

11:04:37 REVISIT THE CEMETERY ISSUES.

11:04:40 BECAUSE IF THE LEGISLATION AND THE STATUTES ARE NOT

11:04:43 STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE MONEY

11:04:46 IN THERE FOR THE PERPETUAL CARE, THEN THE STATE NEEDS

11:04:50 TO BEEF THAT UP.

11:04:53 >> I THINK, ALSO, WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT, THERE CAN BE

11:04:56 REPORTING REQUIREMENTS BACK TO THIS COUNCIL, SO THAT

11:05:00 YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THAT WATCHDOG STATUS AND

11:05:03 ENSURE THAT THERE IS A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE

11:05:05 MAINTENANCE OF THE CEMETERY.

11:05:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.

11:05:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:05:10 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:05:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKING THE NONPROFIT -- I WANT TO

11:05:17 MAKE SURE SOMETIMES YOU PUT PEOPLE ON BOARDS THAT ARE

11:05:20 NOT IN TUNED WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING ON THAT BOARD.

11:05:22 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WITHIN THE NUMBER THAT YOU MAY

11:05:28 SELECT ON THAT GOOD, THAT THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR

11:05:30 EACH ONE THOSE BOARD MEMBERS, YOU ARE GETTING PEOPLE

11:05:34 WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT CEMETERY IS ABOUT.

11:05:36 COMMUNITY PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND NOT JUST PUTTING PEOPLE

11:05:38 ON A BOARD AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RAISE MONEY.

11:05:41 THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS DO THIS AND THAT, PEOPLE WHO

11:05:44 ARE GEARED TO KNOW THE INDUSTRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT

11:05:46 THAT IS AND WHAT A CEMETERY ENTAILS.

11:05:49 >> I AGREE WITH THE SUGGESTION THERE BE PEOPLE FROM THE

11:05:54 INDUSTRY ON THE NORTHWEST FOR PROFIT BOARD, AND BEFORE

11:05:58 WE FINALIZE THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT DOCUMENTS, I WILL BE

11:06:00 HAPPY TO COME BACK WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED

11:06:01 STRUCTURE OF THE BOARD.

11:06:03 WE WILL GET YOUR INPUT ON IT.

11:06:07 WHEN WE DO THIS, WE WOULD IDENTIFY POSITIONS IN THE

11:06:10 COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE SO THAT WAY

11:06:13 THERE WILL BE THE ONGOING ABILITY TO FULFILL THOSE --

11:06:15 THOSE POSITIONS ON THE BOARD WITH PEOPLE FROM EXPERTISE

11:06:19 IN CERTAIN AREAS MUCH THE SAME WAY YOU DO ON CITY

11:06:24 BOARDS WHERE YOU CALL FOR AN ARCHITECT, AN ENGINEER AND

11:06:25 CONTRACTOR.

11:06:29 THAT KIND OF IDENTIFICATION FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

11:06:31 >> THAT WILL BE THE LONG HAUL TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THERE

11:06:34 WHO WILL MAKE THESE CALLS AND GET OTHER BOARD MEMBERS

11:06:37 AT THAT LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE DIGNITY

11:06:41 IN THAT CEMETERY CONTINUES TO BE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND

11:06:45 IT LOOKS LIKE A -- LOOKS LIKE A -- A GARDEN OF THEM

11:06:46 REESE.

11:06:49 I AM JUST BEING HONEST.

11:06:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CITRO AND

11:06:54 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:06:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT THE CITY OF

11:07:00 TAMPA IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF THE CEMETERY BUSINESS.

11:07:05 APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS AND STAFF'S EFFORTS TO MAKE HOUR

11:07:09 ZION -- WHAT HAPPENS TO ZION DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

11:07:13 WHAT DO WE THE CITY HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX FOR THE

11:07:16 CEMETERIES IN COMPLIANCE IN COMPLIANCE KEEPING THEIR

11:07:18 GROUNDS AND -- WHAT TOOLS DO WE HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX

11:07:23 FROM PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN S&P.

11:07:24 >> YOU KNOW --

11:07:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

11:07:31 THIS PERSON TOOK MONEY FROM FAMILY MEMBERS AND PUT IT

11:07:33 IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT, AND NOW THEY ARE WALKING AWAY

11:07:34 FROM IT.

11:07:39 BUT THERE ARE OTHER CEMETERIES WITHIN CITY THAT ARE

11:07:39 DOING FINE.

11:07:42 HOW DO WE PRESENT HAVE THIS?

11:07:45 WHAT TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX, TO THE COUNTY, STATE.

11:07:50 CAN WE ASSURE THAT THESE CEMETERIES STAY LIQUID SO WE

11:07:53 DON'T HAVE TO JUMP IN THE FUTURE.

11:07:57 >> STATE IN THE LEGISLATION CARE IN TRUST FUND.

11:08:01 AND MR. GUDES, THERE IS ANOTHER REQUIREMENT FOR ANOTHER

11:08:02 TYPE OF TRUST FUND.

11:08:05 THE FAMILY SEEMS TO THINK THAT THE MONEY IN THE TRUST

11:08:07 FUND WAS THEIR EXIT TICKET.

11:08:09 AND THAT IS HOW THEY COULD BE JUSTIFIED IN WALKING AWAY

11:08:13 FROM IT BECAUSE THERE IS MONEY IN THEIR TRUST FUND.

11:08:16 HOW DO WE PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE?

11:08:19 IT SEEMS TO ME -- I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD --

11:08:22 AT LEAST NOT YET -- IS WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THE

11:08:25 CEMETERY BECOMES FULL AND NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH A

11:08:30 FUNERAL HOME OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE SELLING PLOTS IN

11:08:34 THAT CEMETERY, IT IS NO LONGER AN INCOME PRODUCING

11:08:37 ASSET, SO THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN MAINTAINING IT AND

11:08:40 KEEPING IT AND LIVING UP TO THE OBLIGATIONS TECHNICALLY

11:08:43 THEY PROMISED TO THE PEOPLE THEY SOLD LOTS TOO.

11:08:46 I THINK THEY THINK THAT BY HAVING MONEY IN THAT TRUST

11:08:49 FUND, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THE PERPETUAL

11:08:52 MAINTENANCE OF THE CEMETERY.

11:08:53 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?

11:08:56 MAYBE THE FORMULA FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE TRUST

11:08:58 FUND NEED TO BE ADJUST BY THE STATE.

11:09:01 MR. DINGFELDER SUGGESTED WE LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION.

11:09:07 I AGREE WE NEED TO DO THAT MR. GUDES, YOU KNOW THAT THE

11:09:09 CEMETERY STATUTE IS VERY COMPLICATED.

11:09:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: VERY COMPLICATED.

11:09:13 WHEN MR. DINGFELDER TALKED ABOUT LEGISLATION.

11:09:16 THE MORTICIAN BOARD.

11:09:19 THEY ARE THE ONE THAT DISCIPLINE CEMETERY OWNERS AND

11:09:20 DISCIPLINE EVERYBODY.

11:09:22 I THINK WE NEED TO CONTACT THEM TO SEE WHAT THE RULES

11:09:25 ARE OR MAYBE SOME CHANGES PROPOSED TO THEM TO

11:09:27 STRENGTHEN WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO HERE.

11:09:29 I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER STARTING POINT.

11:09:35 BUT, AGAIN, I WANT -- I KNOW MR. CITRO TALKED ABOUT IT,

11:09:39 BUT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR MR. ROBERTSON AND HIS MOTHER

11:09:41 WAS THE BEST PLACE.

11:09:45 MEMORIAL PARK WAS THE CHEAPEST CEMETERY AROUND TO BURY

11:09:45 FOLKS.

11:09:47 UNTIL HE DIED THAT GENTLEMAN WAS OUT THERE TRYING TO

11:09:49 MOW THAT GRASS OUT THERE.

11:09:51 FIX THOSE HEADSTONES.

11:09:53 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEIR OTHER FAMILY.

11:09:56 THEY -- I NEVER MET THEM.

11:09:58 THEY NEVER OUT FLORIDA.

11:10:01 MR. ROBERTSON AND HIS WIFE, THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT

11:10:03 AFFORDABLE FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

11:10:05 I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT.

11:10:07 HE WASN'T JUST A PERSON TAKING MONEY, BUT HE WAS A

11:10:10 PERSON WHO WAS HELPING THE COMMUNITY WITH THE BURIAL

11:10:11 PLOTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

11:10:14 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:10:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM FINISHED.

11:10:17 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:10:19 >>BILL CARLSON: ECHO MY COLLEAGUES.

11:10:21 THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

11:10:23 YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR MONTHS.

11:10:26 YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BALANCE THE ISSUE.

11:10:28 YOU DON'T WANT ANOTHER ZION AND RESPECTFUL OF THE

11:10:30 PEOPLE THAT GO THERE.

11:10:32 YOU HAVE PROTECTED THE TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS OF THE

11:10:32 COMMUNITY.

11:10:34 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AS WELL.

11:10:38 YOU -- YOU KIND OF MENTION IT, BUT I WISH WE COULD

11:10:39 LOBBY THE STATE.

11:10:41 A LOT OF THIS GETS IN THE STATE.

11:10:44 BUT LOBBY THE STATE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS INCREASE THE

11:10:45 TRUST FUNDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

11:10:48 BUT THE NUMBER AS YOU TOLD US PRIVATELY, THE NUMBER

11:10:52 COULD GROW EXPONENTIALLY WITH THE CLEANING OF THESE

11:10:53 THINGS OVER THE YEARS.

11:10:56 THERE ARE -- THE LAST THING I WILL SAY, THERE ARE SOME

11:10:58 INNOVATIVE IDEAS.

11:11:03 AN ARCHITECT PATRICK THORPE WHO HAVE REVENUE STREAMS

11:11:06 FOR CEMETERIES AND I LOOK THAT THE NONPROFIT WILL LOOK

11:11:08 AT THOSE IDEAS TOO.

11:11:11 LONG TERM NO MATTER HOW BIG THE TRUST FUNDS ARE,

11:11:13 EVENTUALLY THEY WILL RUN OUT OF MONEY.

11:11:14 THANK YOU.

11:11:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

11:11:15 ANYONE ELSE?

11:11:16 OKAY.

11:11:19 JUST IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR

11:11:19 HARD WORK ON THIS.

11:11:21 SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

11:11:24 I REMEMBER WHEN I WENT OUT THERE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND

11:11:28 FRIEND COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH MARVIN KNIGHT AND OTHERS

11:11:31 TO DO A CLEANUP DAY WHICH WAS A BIG THING.

11:11:35 WE ALSO SAW TO IT TO DO AN HONOR GUARD CEREMONY FOR

11:11:37 SOME OF THE VETERANS BURIED THERE.

11:11:39 A RED CROSS MEMORIAL WHERE YOU HAVE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

11:11:44 VETERANS FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR I.

11:11:47 SOME WERE KILLED IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR I.

11:11:50 COMPELLING FROM 1917-1918 THROUGH THE HEIGHT OF JIM

11:11:52 CROW.

11:11:54 THESE GREAT AMERICANS FOUGHT FOR THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD

11:11:57 NOT STAND FOR THEM AND THEY PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE AND

11:12:00 WE OWE TO THEM AND OTHERS TO DO THEIR BEST TODAY.

11:12:03 ONE THING WE WANT TO ADD TO THE BOARD IS, AND WE TALKED

11:12:06 ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY WHICH IS VETERANS.

11:12:10 A TON OF VETERANS BURIED THERE AND THE GOOD MEN AND

11:12:14 WOMEN OVER AT 13TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, AND THEY ARE READY

11:12:18 TO HEAD OUT ONCE IT IS LEGALLY FEASIBLE TO DO SO AND AN

11:12:21 ISSUE ALSO OF OUR VETERANS AND OUR VETERANS, WHO,

11:12:25 AGAIN, WORE A UNIFORM AT A TIME WHEN OUR COUNTRY WOULD

11:12:27 NOT STAND UP FOR THEM.

11:12:27 SOMETHING POIGNANT.

11:12:29 WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

11:12:30 >> THANK YOU.

11:12:32 THOSE GROUPS ARE THE KIND OF GROUPS WE WANT TO BE

11:12:34 INVOLVED AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CAUSE.

11:12:38 WITH THAT, WE CAN'T -- THIS MEMORIAL CAN BE A BEAUTIFUL

11:12:39 CEMETERY AGAIN.

11:12:40 >>LUIS VIERA: AMEN.

11:12:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:12:47 >> TOYIN WILL ADDRESS YOU ON ZION.

11:12:47 >> GOOD MORNING.

11:12:51 SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

11:12:54 FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WANT COUNCIL TO KNOW, WE WANT

11:12:57 EVERYONE TO KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO BEING A

11:13:01 PART OF THE SOLUTION THAT WILL SHED LIGHT AND RESTORE

11:13:05 THE DIGNITY AND HONOR OF THOSE ENTERED IN ZION, THE

11:13:06 LOST CEMETERY.

11:13:09 FIRST AND FOREMOST, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY MEMBERS OF

11:13:11 CITY STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THESE

11:13:13 ARCHAEOLOGICAL MEETINGS THAT ARE HOUSED AT THE TAMPA

11:13:15 HOUSING AUTHORITY.

11:13:17 THOSE MEETINGS TAKES PLACE ONCE A MONTH.

11:13:20 WE HAVE ATTENDED ALL OF THEM IN GREAT NUMBER.

11:13:23 THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN PROCEEDING AND BASICALLY A FACT

11:13:26 FINDING SORT OF POSTURE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

11:13:30 INITIALLY THERE WAS THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US

11:13:32 REGARDING THE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR.

11:13:35 STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED AT TAMPA HOUSING

11:13:36 AUTHORITY'S PROPERTY.

11:13:40 BUT WE ALSO WERE IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING THE

11:13:44 PERMISSION OF THE ADDITIONAL PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

11:13:50 GONZMART AND CREECH WITH GROUND PENETRATING STUDIES AT

11:13:52 THEIR PROPERTIES WELL.

11:13:56 THE STUDIES HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED OF ALL THREE PARCELS,

11:13:59 ALL THREE PRIVATE PARCELS AND NONE OF WHICH ARE OWNED

11:14:00 BY THE CITY.

11:14:03 THE BOUNDARIES OF ZION CEMETERY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED

11:14:04 AND CONFIRMED.

11:14:08 THEY ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH A VERY DELICATE PROCESS

11:14:11 OF CONFIRMING THE STUDIES THEY HAVE DONE.

11:14:13 FURTHER COMPLICATING THIS IS THE FACT THAT THE TAMPA

11:14:15 HOUSING AUTHORITY IS UNDERGOING A MASSIVE REDEVELOPMENT

11:14:21 AND REDESIGN OF THEIR PROPERTY SO THERE A LOT OF MOVING

11:14:25 PARTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROPERTY AND WITH ZION.

11:14:30 BUT BECAUSE THE FACT-FINDING PROCESS HAS ESSENTIALLY

11:14:33 CONCLUDED, THE CITY FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT GIVEN THEIR

11:14:35 DEDICATION TO SHINING LIGHT AND RESTORING THE DIGNITY

11:14:39 TO ZION THAT WE MOVE INTO A NEW PHASE.

11:14:41 THAT PHASE BEING THAT ACTION.

11:14:44 IN ORDER TO START THAT ACTION, WE HAVE DEVELOPED THE

11:14:48 DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.

11:14:50 THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT, OUR PROPOSAL TO DO THAT AND OUR

11:14:54 WORK IN DEVELOPING THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, AS

11:14:57 WELL AS BYLAWS IS REALLY SOMETHING WE THINK CAN

11:15:01 LEVERAGE THE -- THE PRIVATE SECTOR, PUBLIC DONATIONS,

11:15:05 PRIVATE DONATIONS, THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN GRANTS IN

11:15:10 ORDER TO DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS WITH ZION.

11:15:14 THE FORMALIZING A NOT-FOR-PROFIT IN IDENTIFYING THE

11:15:21 STRUCTURE OF A BOARD IS VERY IMPORTANT.

11:15:24 WE HAVE MENTIONED TO THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMMITTEE IN

11:15:32 FEBRUARY WE WOULD LIKE THEIR INPUT PAUSE OF A SOLUTION

11:15:35 FOR IDENTIFYING THE STRUCTURE OF THE NORTHWEST FOR

11:15:35 PROFIT.

11:15:39 ONCE THAT IS DONE, WE CAN PROCEED WITH IDENTIFYING THE

11:15:42 GOALS, PRIORITIZING THE GOALS AND IMPLEMENTING THE

11:15:42 GOALS.

11:15:43 THAT IS NUMBER ONE.

11:15:45 THE CITY ACTION PLAN WAS TO ESTABLISH A NOT-FOR-PROFIT

11:15:47 AND WE HAVE GONE SOME WAY WITH DOING THAT.

11:15:50 NUMBER TWO, THE CITY IS COMMITTED IN GOOD FAITH TO

11:15:54 DEPOSIT SEED MONEY, MATCHING THAT OF THE STATE.

11:15:58 AS YOU ALL MAY BE AWARE, THE LEGISLATURE IS CURRENTLY

11:16:02 MOVING TO APPROVE A $50,000 ALLOCATION TOWARD ZION.

11:16:08 THE CITY IS PREPARED, AGAIN, IN GOOD FAITH TO MATCH

11:16:11 THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND FROM THE UNDERSTANDING THAT

11:16:13 THE COUNTY WILL SOLICIT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AND

11:16:18 THAT WILL BRING US TO HOPEFULLY A TOTAL OF $150,000, OF

11:16:21 WHICH THE BOARD OF THIS NOT-FOR-PROFIT CAN, AGAIN,

11:16:25 IDENTIFY, PRIORITIZE AND IMPLEMENT THE GOALS AS FAR AS

11:16:29 HONORING AND RESTORING THE DIGNITY OF THOSE ENTERED AT

11:16:30 ZION.

11:16:33 KNOWING THAT THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE A LONG TIME.

11:16:37 WE HAVE ALSO PROPOSED THE POSSIBILITY OF A TEMPORARY

11:16:38 HEALING MEMORIAL.

11:16:42 SOMETHING TO START THE PROCESS NOW.

11:16:45 TODAY'S TAMPA REALLY DOES WANT TO START THAT PROCESS

11:16:51 NOW, AND WE CAN COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TOWARD THAT END.

11:16:56 SO I THINK I -- I HAVE MENTIONED THE CITY'S PROPOSAL,

11:17:01 AND OPENING TO QUESTIONS AND CERTAINLY KEEP THIS

11:17:04 COUNCIL INFORMED OF ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, AND I WANT

11:17:07 TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

11:17:11 THIS IS DEFINITELY A GOOD PART AND A GOOD PART BY

11:17:13 TAMPA.

11:17:15 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:17:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ATTENDING THOSE

11:17:18 MEETINGS.

11:17:20 I WISH I COULD ATTEND IT BECAUSE THURSDAY WE HAVE

11:17:22 COUNCIL SO I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

11:17:23 LET ME ASK.

11:17:25 WE TALKED ABOUT ROBLES.

11:17:27 BUT MY CONCERN IS NOT JUST ROBLES.

11:17:33 MY CONCERN ALSO IS THE ADJACENT -- GONZMART OWNS THAT

11:17:34 PROPERTY.

11:17:37 CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT WE ARE KIND OF DOING WITH

11:17:41 HELP WITH THEM AND COLLABORATION AND IN THAT EFFORT?

11:17:44 >> WELL, AGAIN, THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THOSE PROPERTIES.

11:17:48 THEY ARE OWNED BY GONZMART AND CREECH.

11:17:53 THEY HAVE RECENTLY AGREED TO HAVE THE STUDIES ON THEIR

11:17:56 PROPERTIES AND I BELIEVE TO CONFIRM.

11:18:00 WITH CREECH'S PROPERTY, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE

11:18:04 PORTION OF HIS PROPERTY THAT ENCOMPASSES ZION DOES NOT

11:18:07 HAVE A STRUCTURE AND IS NOT ACTIVELY USED.

11:18:08 HE IS ABLE TO CLEAR THAT PROPERTY.

11:18:15 AND FOR HIM AND FOR TAMPA HOUSING AND FINDING A

11:18:19 SOLUTION OF CREECH'S PROPERTY IS MUCH MORE SIMPLE OF

11:18:20 MR. GONZMART.

11:18:26 MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS ACTUALLY STRUCTURES BUILT

11:18:28 WHERE THERE SHOULD BE BODIES ENTERED.

11:18:30 AGAIN THESE ARE PRIVATE PROPERTIES.

11:18:33 THE CITY IS UNABLE TO ACTIVELY DO ANYTHING.

11:18:39 FIRST AND FOREMOST.

11:18:42 THOSE PROPERTIES NEED TO BE ASSEMBLED AND WE WILL

11:18:45 LISTEN TO THE BOARD AND FIGURE OUT WHAT STEPS TO TAKE

11:18:45 PLACE.

11:18:48 THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN SAY TO ADDRESS THAT POINT AT

11:18:49 THE TIME.

11:18:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.

11:18:55 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUILDINGS, IT'S GOING TO COST TO

11:18:57 MOVE THOSE BUILDINGS.

11:19:03 WHATEVER YOU COME UP.

11:19:06 AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING NOW TO LET THE

11:19:09 COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THE CITY IS SERIOUS ABOUT

11:19:11 MEMORIALIZING THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE.

11:19:13 HOW MUCH MONEY IS ENOUGH.

11:19:16 BECAUSE WHAT I AM SEEING RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW IN

11:19:19 THE LONG HAUL, IT CAN COST A LOT OF MONEY.

11:19:22 SO YOU NEED A BOARD WITH A TRUST TO BE ABLE TO HELP

11:19:26 WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE

11:19:26 HAPPEN.

11:19:33 YOU TALK ABOUT MOVING BUILDINGS, POSSIBLY MOVING

11:19:33 BODIES.

11:19:36 WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO AND MAY COST IN THE LONG RUN.

11:19:39 HOW MUCH MONEY WILL IT COST?

11:19:42 SO I GUESS IN THE LONG RUN, WE WILL FIGURE TO WHAT IT

11:19:43 WILL COST, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE

11:19:47 DOLLARS TO TELL PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT

11:19:49 GOING TO BE ENOUGH FROM WHAT I AM HEARING.

11:19:51 >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

11:19:55 PART OF THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE TO

11:19:58 ESTABLISH WHAT A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE DONE

11:20:02 AND HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO COST AND HAVE A BUDGET.

11:20:05 ONCE WE HAVE A BUDGET AND KNOW THE NEEDS AND WE KNOW

11:20:07 WHAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE WE WILL WORK TOWARD FULFILLING

11:20:08 THOSE NEEDS.

11:20:11 BUT IT IS HARD TO RAISE MONEY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A

11:20:12 PLAN AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BUDGET.

11:20:15 SO THAT WILL BE THE FIRST WORK OF THAT COMMITTEE IS TO

11:20:19 PUT TOGETHER WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE INCLUDING KINDS OF

11:20:22 SPECIFIC COSTS AND WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH THE MEMORIAL

11:20:25 AND COME UP WITH A BUDGET AND SUPPORT THAT BUDGET

11:20:28 THROUGH FUNDING AND FUND RAISING.

11:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN THAT BOARD WILL BE THE SAME WAY

11:20:32 AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MEMORIAL PARK.

11:20:34 MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD TO

11:20:38 RAISE THAT MONEY TO HONOR THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE GONE

11:20:38 ON.

11:20:40 BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

11:20:42 WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY RIGHT NOW, BUT

11:20:46 WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE TO START IN THE HEALING

11:20:49 PROCESS FOR THESE CEMETERIES AND THESE FAMILIES.

11:20:51 THANK YOU.

11:20:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

11:20:57 I JUST WANT TO SAY MISS HARGRETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

11:20:58 FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

11:21:00 I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU

11:21:01 AND WHAT NOT.

11:21:05 AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S LEADERSHIP ON

11:21:05 THIS.

11:21:08 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS EFFORT, I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT

11:21:09 FOR THREE REASONS.

11:21:13 NUMBER ONE, THE CITY IS A MONETARY STAKEHOLDER IN THIS.

11:21:17 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MONETARY INVESTMENTS IN THIS.

11:21:21 NUMBER TWO, THIS APPEARS TO BE A PROCESS NOT TOP DOWN,

11:21:22 BUT BOTTOM UP.

11:21:24 THE IDEA THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT TELLING PEOPLE

11:21:25 WHAT WILL BE IN THIS MEMORIAL.

11:21:28 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER WILL BE

11:21:30 ASKING THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT, THE MOST ACUTELY EFFECTED

11:21:34 COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR FOR OPINIONS ON WHAT SHOULD BE

11:21:35 IN THIS.

11:21:38 AND THIS -- THIS IS JUST THE PREFERENCE OF THE

11:21:39 PREFERENCE.

11:21:42 JUST THE BEGINNING.

11:21:46 LIKE COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID IS JUST THE BEGINNING AND

11:21:49 THE LARGER IDEA IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OF REACHING IN AND

11:21:53 HONORING OUR TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BLACK HISTORY.

11:21:54 BECAUSE IT'S HERE.

11:21:56 IT'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

11:22:01 A LOT OF US MAY NOT KNOW THAT IT IS HERE, BUT IT

11:22:02 CERTAINLY IS HERE.

11:22:05 OVER THE WEEKEND I -- IF YOU KNOW ME, I LIKE TO TAKE MY

11:22:07 SON ON HISTORICAL TRIPS.

11:22:11 AND HE AND I WENT TO MONTGOMERY TO LOOK AT THE NATIONAL

11:22:13 MEMORIAL FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE AND WENT TO SELMA.

11:22:16 WE DID IT OVER ONE DAY AND CAME BACK TO TALLAHASSEE THE

11:22:17 SAME DAY.

11:22:19 I AM VERY AMBITIOUS.

11:22:22 BUT YOU KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS HAD A LOT OF

11:22:27 INJUSTICES AND DIFFERENT NARRATIVES THAT REALLY NEED TO

11:22:30 BE SPELLED OUT AND MEMORIALIZED AND I SALUTE THE CITY

11:22:33 OF TAMPA FOR GETTING THIS STARTED ON THE RIGHT HAND LED

11:22:35 BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

11:22:37 THANK YOU FOR YOUR HEARTFELT WORK.

11:22:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:22:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:22:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:22:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID YOU -- HAS THE COMMUNITY BEEN

11:22:47 TALKING ABOUT A MEMORIAL BEING BUILT?

11:22:48 THE IDEA --

11:22:50 >> SORRY, SIR?

11:22:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAS THE COMMUNITY -- AT THE MEETINGS,

11:22:58 THE STAKEHOLDERS TALKING ABOUT MEMORIAL BEING BUILT?

11:23:01 >> WITH RAISED THAT AS A PROPOSAL WILL IN THE VERY LAST

11:23:04 MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO AND PROPOSED THAT AND GAVE THEM

11:23:06 THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND COME BACK WITH

11:23:08 SOME IDEAS.

11:23:11 NOTHING HAS BEEN FORMALIZED.

11:23:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH THE $150,000 WE GOT, HAS ANYBODY

11:23:17 LOOKED AT THE IDEA WHAT A TEMPORARY MEMORIAL COULD BE

11:23:19 UNTIL WE GET THIS ESTABLISHED AND ACTUALLY HAVE A --

11:23:22 WHATEVER IT IS GOING TO BE MEMORIAL AT THAT LOCATION?

11:23:23 >> ABSOLUTELY.

11:23:26 WHICH -- WE HAVE KIND OF HUDDLED AND TRIED TO COME UP

11:23:30 WITH CERTAIN IDEAS WITHIN THE CITY AND CITY ATTORNEY'S

11:23:33 OFFICE; HOWEVER, AGAIN, THE ACTUAL STAKEHOLDERS.

11:23:36 THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE THERE, YOU WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE

11:23:40 AWAY THAT VOICE FOR THEM TO DECIDE WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

11:23:45 SO THAT IS REALLY A DECISION FOR THE ZION FOUNDATION.

11:23:47 TO MAKE.

11:23:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

11:23:50 AND ALSO, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:23:53 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.

11:23:56 YOU HAVE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE, FERVENT AND PASSIONATE

11:23:56 ON THIS.

11:23:58 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

11:23:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:24:08 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM 69.

11:24:11 WE ARE DOING WELL WITH TIME WHICH IS GOOD.

11:24:14 >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:24:17 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER

11:24:20 SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

11:24:26 I'M HERE FOR ITEM 69, MOTION FOR THE CITY AND YDCD AND

11:24:34 F DOT TO DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS OF THE TB NEXT

11:24:37 PROJECT IN THE 14 AND 15TH STREET ALIGNMENT.

11:24:42 F DOT IS WRAPPING UP THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL

11:24:44 DOCUMENT FOR THE TAMPA ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.

11:24:47 AN EFFORT STARTED IN THE '90S.

11:24:51 THIS RANGES FROM THE WESTSHORE AREA ALL THE WAY TO

11:24:54 DOWNTOWN AND PARTS OF YBOR CITY.

11:24:57 THE WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE PART OF THIS PROJECT IS

11:24:58 FUNDED.

11:25:00 IT IS OVER $1 BILLION.

11:25:02 CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN SOON.

11:25:05 IT BRINGS CRITICAL, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND

11:25:09 TRANSPORTATION CONNECTIONS INCLUDING TRAILS, WALK-BIKE

11:25:15 INITIATIVES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH TAMPA'S PLANS.

11:25:19 ON THE EASTERN SIDE WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN AND EAT BORE

11:25:21 CITY PORTION, THERE ARE SOME SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL

11:25:24 IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS EFFORT THAT ARE

11:25:29 NOT FUNDED AT THIS POINT, BUT BROADLY THE CITY SUPPORTS

11:25:33 THIS PROJECT AND THIS PROGRAM.

11:25:36 MAINLY BECAUSE IT THE CONSISTENT ON SURFACE STREETS

11:25:40 WITH OUR WALK-BIKE VISION ZERO AND SUSTAINABILITY AND

11:25:42 RESILIENCE PROGRAMS.

11:25:47 WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH FDOT AND ENSURE THAT THESE

11:25:50 INITIATIVES ARE EXPRESSED ON CITY ROADWAYS.

11:25:55 AS IT RELATES TO THE 14TH AND 15TH STREET CONNECTIONS,

11:25:58 WE SUPPORT THOSE CONNECTIONS AS WELL.

11:26:04 PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY ACTIVATE THE ENTIRE GRID WITHIN

11:26:07 YBOR CITY, CREATE MORE ACCESS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:26:11 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH DOT TO

11:26:16 ENSURE THAT HE PRESERVE AS PART OF ANY ALIGNMENT IN

11:26:17 DOWNTOWN TAMPA AS WELL.

11:26:20 AGAIN ACTIVATION OF THE GRID IS GOOD FOR ECONOMIC

11:26:25 DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, SAFETY IN GENERAL, AND FOR

11:26:26 VITALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:26:29 THE OTHER REASON WE SUPPORT THE ALLIANCE IS CURRENTLY

11:26:34 THE ONLY ACCESS IS 21ST AND 22ND STREET.

11:26:39 THESE STREETS WERE IMPROVED RECENTLY, MADE COMPLETE

11:26:43 STREETS, TRUCKS WERE TAKEN OFF OF THESE STREETS, AND

11:26:46 THEY ARE BETTER FOR IT -- THEY ARE BETTER FOR IT, NO

11:26:47 DOUBT ABOUT IT.

11:26:51 AND AS WE LOOK AT VOLUMES EXPECTED IN 2045, THEY PUT SO

11:26:55 MUCH PRESSURE ON THESE STREETS BUT TO HAVE ONE WAY IN

11:26:58 AND OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL PUT PRESSURE NOT JUST

11:27:02 ON YBOR CITY, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO EAST TO GO BACK

11:27:05 WEST ALONG PALM AND SEVEN WHICH PUTS ADDITIONAL

11:27:09 PRESSURE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BUT ALSO NORTH OF THE

11:27:11 INTERSTATE WHEN YOU LOOK AT EAST TAMPA.

11:27:16 AND THEIR ACCESS TO NOT JUST THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY

11:27:19 BUT ALSO THE INTERSTATE.

11:27:23 IT IS BETTER TO DISSIPATE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT GRID.

11:27:27 AGAIN, WE HAVE TALKED TO F DOT ALONG 14TH AND 15TH.

11:27:32 WE ALREADY HAVE OUR CYCLE TRACK PLAN, WIDER SIDEWALKS

11:27:42 ALONG NUCCIO EXTENDING FROM CASS STREET TO CASCADIAN

11:27:46 PARK AND AGREED TO WORK WITH THESE WITH GREEN

11:27:51 STRUCTURES TO ENSURE THAT MOST FLOODING IS PREVENTED

11:27:55 THROUGH LANDSCAPING AND BETTER GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.

11:27:57 SO THAT IS WHY WE SUPPORT THIS.

11:28:00 WE FEEL IT IS GOOD FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS.

11:28:07 IT IS ALSO PART OF OUR ALL-OF-THE-ABOVE STRATEGY.

11:28:10 RECOGNIZE THAT TRANSIT IS IMPORTANT, ACTIVE

11:28:13 TRANSPORTATION IS IMPORTANT BUT AT THE SAME TIME

11:28:17 FACILITATING THESE CONNECTIONS ARE ALSO BORN TO GET US

11:28:19 TO A BETTER PLACE AS FAR AS MOBILITY GOES.

11:28:23 WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

11:28:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

11:28:25 BEFORE COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:28:29 I WANTED TO REMIND IF ANY STAFF IS WAITING ON ANY ITEM.

11:28:33 AFTER WE ARE FINISH TODAY THIS RUN TO 63 AND 64 BEFORE

11:28:34 LUNCH.

11:28:36 VERY QUICKLY IF YOU WERE WAITING ON ANYTHING AFTER THIS

11:28:38 ONE IT WON'T COME UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.

11:28:41 FYI FOR PURPOSES OF SCHEDULING.

11:28:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:28:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT

11:28:46 THIS EXIT.

11:28:50 AND MY MAIN BEEF EARLY ON AND I TOLD THE SECRETARY WHEN

11:28:54 I MET WITH HIM IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT 21ST STREET AND

11:28:56 22ND STREET EXIT WOULD NOT BE CLOSED.

11:29:00 I GOT GUARANTEES THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

11:29:04 NOW WE COME TO 14TH AND 15TH STREET.

11:29:08 AND MY QUESTION TO YOU AS THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE, HAVE

11:29:16 WE GOT WITH THE D.C., THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN D.C., THE

11:29:20 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE V BOARD, THE RESIDENCE THAT

11:29:23 WILL IMPACT -- THAT WILL BE IMPACTED.

11:29:26 I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE PEOPLE, THE ACTIVISTS.

11:29:30 I MEAN THAT COMMUNITY, HAVE WE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE

11:29:31 AS THE CITY TO DO THAT?

11:29:35 BECAUSE I AM GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN -- THE SECRETARY

11:29:38 WHEN HE COMES UP HERE THE SAME QUESTIONS.

11:29:42 HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT IT WILL

11:29:45 ADVERSELY EFFECT.

11:29:48 >>VIK BHIDE: A VERY GOOD QUESTION COUNCILMAN.

11:29:52 THIS BEING F DOT'S PROJECT, WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH F

11:29:57 DOT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT QAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH WAS

11:29:57 BON.

11:30:00 AS YOU ARE AWARE I WAS AT THE EAST TAMPA MEETING TO

11:30:03 DISCUSS THE SAME ISSUE AND PROVIDE OUR PERSPECTIVE AS

11:30:03 WELL.

11:30:07 AS FAR AS OUR OWN VISION AND PROJECTS ARE CONCERNED, IT

11:30:12 BE AT GREEN SPINE OR THE GREEN ARTERY THAT CONNECTS TO

11:30:20 THE NORTH OF CASCADIAN PARK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.

11:30:23 WE HAVE DONE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND STUDIES AND

11:30:25 PUBLISHED OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS AS WELL.

11:30:29 AND TO THAT END, WE ARE A PARTNER IN THE OUTREACH

11:30:33 EFFORTS THAT FDOT HAS DONE AND INTENDED AND HAVE BEEN

11:30:34 IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.

11:30:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY LETTERS FROM THE CHAMBER DOWN

11:30:39 THERE?

11:30:45 THE YDRB OR ANYTHING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A GOOD

11:30:46 OR A BAD IDEA?

11:30:48 THAT IS THE THING THAT HAS WORKED, WHAT IS RIGHT FOR

11:30:48 THE COMMUNITY.

11:30:51 DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AT ALL?

11:30:54 >>VIK BHIDE: WE DON'T HAVE LETTERS SPECIFIC TO THIS

11:30:57 PROJECT, AGAIN, PARTLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUR PROJECT,

11:31:00 BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY,

11:31:07 AND, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD SUPPORT AS WELL AS CONCERNS.

11:31:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COURTNEY IS HERE WITH THE CRA?

11:31:11 MISS ORR?

11:31:14 CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?

11:31:17 I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

11:31:21 >> COURTNEY, I DIDN'T CALL YOU UP HERE.

11:31:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE SECRETARY IS UP HERE TOO.

11:31:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE NEXT.

11:31:27 >> I CAN SPEAK TO YOU IN A MINUTE IF YOU WANT ME TO.

11:31:29 I CAN SIT DOWN.

11:31:34 >> COURTNEY ORR, CRA MANAGER IN YBOR CITY.

11:31:37 WE SUBMITTED A LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL FOR STRONG

11:31:37 CONCERNS.

11:31:40 THE LETTER WAS NECESSARILY STATING OPPOSITION BUT

11:31:41 STRONG CONCERNS.

11:31:43 I THINK THE MORE EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT THE EFFECTS WOULD

11:31:48 BE WITH THE TRAFFIC LOAD AND THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS

11:31:51 IN THE HCC AREA WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME CONCERNS.

11:31:56 I KNOW THAT HE HAS REACHED OUT SPECIFICALLY TO HCC AND

11:31:58 HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THE WESTERN

11:32:00 FRINGE.

11:32:02 SO YOU MAY WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.

11:32:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OPPOSITION, BUT

11:32:07 JUST CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT?

11:32:10 >> WELL, THAT WAS HOW THE LETTER WAS DRAFTED.

11:32:14 THAT THEY ARE -- THERE ARE STRONG CONCERNS.

11:32:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAS THE SECRETARY ADDRESSED THOSE

11:32:18 CONCERNS WITH THOSE GROUPS?

11:32:21 HAVE THEY BEEN ADDRESSED YESTERDAY.

11:32:26 >> SECRETARY DAVID GWYNN.

11:32:28 STATE DISTRICT 7.

11:32:29 WE MET A LOT.

11:32:33 COUNCILMAN, WE MET WITH YOU AND TOOK EVEN MORE.

11:32:36 WE NOT ONLY MET WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND GONE DOOR TO

11:32:39 DOOR IN THE AREAS RIGHT AROUND THAT AREA TO GET SOME

11:32:41 OPINIONS FROM THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE MOST DIRECTLY

11:32:42 IMPACTED.

11:32:48 WE DID -- WE GET SOME CONCERNS FROM A VARIETY OF FOLKS.

11:32:56 WE MET WITH HCC, WITH CAMPUS PRESIDENT TO EXPLAIN WHAT

11:32:57 IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE.

11:33:04 I WOULDN'T SAY SHE WAS OUT IN SUPPORT BUT SHE SAID THEY

11:33:05 SHOULDN'T OPPOSED.

11:33:09 ONE THING A MISUNDERSTANDING, THE LAST MEETING A

11:33:12 STATEMENT THAT THE NEW RAMP WILL PLACE 29,000 VEHICLES

11:33:15 A DAY ON NUCCIO PARKWAY.

11:33:23 THE FACT IS 29,000 CARS IN NUCCIO PARKWAY IN 2025, BUT

11:33:25 3,000 OF THOSE BECAUSE OF RAMP CHANGE.

11:33:27 THE REST OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS

11:33:28 PLANNED DOWN THERE.

11:33:30 THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COME REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO

11:33:31 WITH THE INTERSTATE.

11:33:35 AND OUR WILL BE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE THOSE

11:33:38 STREETS CALMER, TO MAKE SURE THAT PEDESTRIANS AND

11:33:42 BICYCLES ARE PROTECTED AND NOT INSIDE THE MAIN ROADWAY.

11:33:48 NOT AS EASY AS IT IS TO GO VERY FAST TO NARROW THEM UP,

11:33:51 STREETSCAPE THEM MAKING IT THAT PEDESTRIANS HAVE

11:33:52 PROTECTED CROSSINGS.

11:33:54 YOU SAW TODAY WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS.

11:33:59 ONE FROM THE CHAMBERS -- ONE FROM THE BEE OR CHAMBER

11:34:04 AND FROM ALLEN TEMPLE THAT SAID THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF

11:34:04 THE PROJECT.

11:34:07 MOST OF THE PEOPLE WE TALKED TO SAID THEY WOULD LIKE

11:34:10 THE ADDITIONAL OPTION TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE,

11:34:13 BUT THEY ALSO WERE -- WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING

11:34:16 TO LOOK AT SAFETY, BECAUSE THEY SAID WE ARE CONCERNED

11:34:18 OF MAKING SURE.

11:34:20 THAT IS TASK.

11:34:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS THE TIMELINE?

11:34:26 IS THERE A TIMELINE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE

11:34:29 COMMUNITY SAYING WHAT THEY REALLY WANT TO SAY FOR YOUR

11:34:31 PROJECT OR THE POTENTIAL PROJECT?

11:34:33 >> THE SCIS IS IN.

11:34:35 WE JUST HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS LAST WEEK.

11:34:38 IT IS GOING FOR FINAL APPROVAL TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY

11:34:39 ADMINISTRATION.

11:34:41 WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THAT WITHIN -- I WOULD SAY THE

11:34:42 NEXT SIX MONTHS.

11:34:45 AFTER THAT, WE TECHNICALLY COULD BUILD THE PROJECTS IF

11:34:47 THE MONEY WAS AVAILABLE.

11:34:51 OUR -- RIGHT NOW, THE PROJECTS ARE NOT FUNDED WHICH

11:34:55 MEANS THEY ARE NOT IN OUR FIVE-YEAR WORK PLAN, BUT FOR

11:34:58 SOME REASON, MONEY WAS TO BECOME AVAILABLE SAY A

11:35:00 PROJECT IN MIAMI WAS TO BE CANCELLED FOR SOME REASON OR

11:35:04 JACKSONVILLE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE TEND TO TRY TO HAVE

11:35:06 PROJECTS READY TO GET THAT MONEY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

11:35:09 SO WE WOULD HAVE THE PROJECTS READY TO GO, BUT THEY ARE

11:35:10 NOT FUNDED YET.

11:35:15 WE ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT FUNDING IN THE NEW FIFTH

11:35:18 OR SIXTH YEAR IN THE PROCESSES.

11:35:22 IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE AND READY TO USE IT, WOULD

11:35:23 TRY TO GET THE MONEY.

11:35:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST QUESTION.

11:35:29 THE OTHER NIGHT WE HAD SEVERAL -- I WAS SURPRISED.

11:35:32 MOST OF THE EAST ASSOCIATION, TAMPA HEIGHTS AND

11:35:37 EVERYONE WAS THERE FOR THAT MEETING AND SOME HAD AHS

11:35:38 AND UMS.

11:35:45 BUT ONE LADY IN PARTICULAR, THE EAST TAMPA CAC CHAIR,

11:35:48 BROUGHT UP WHAT I THOUGHT WAS VALID INFORMATION AS IT

11:35:50 RELATES TO SCOTT STREET.

11:35:54 I WENT HOME THAT NIGHT THINKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN, YBOR AS

11:36:03 WELL, AND IN THAT AREA FOR SCOTT STREET.

11:36:08 DID WE GO BACK AT ALL IN REFERENCE TO SCOTT STREET?

11:36:09 >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

11:36:11 WE WILL CERTAINLY DIRECT MORE PEOPLE TO THAT.

11:36:14 THE CHALLENGE IS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING OUGHT 25 YEARS.

11:36:17 WHEN WE BUILD A PROJECT, WE WANT IT TO LAST FOR THAT

11:36:18 AMOUNT OF TIME.

11:36:22 BY THAT TIME, ALL -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS ALL

11:36:22 OF THE RAMPS.

11:36:25 WE ARE GOING TO NEED ALL WE CAN GET TO GET TRAFFIC IN

11:36:26 AND OUT.

11:36:29 AND WE WILL DEFINITELY WANT TO USE THAT ONE AS WELL.

11:36:33 THIS ONE IS ONE WE THINK WE CAN GET BUILT AND HAVE IT

11:36:35 DONE IN A SAFE MANNER.

11:36:38 AND I THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY BECOME AN ASSET BECAUSE

11:36:41 INSTEAD OF PEOPLE HAVING TO GO THE LONG WAY AND GO

11:36:44 THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND SIDE STREETS TO GET BACK AND

11:36:48 FORTH, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO TO HCC AND SOME OF

11:36:50 THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA WILL HAVE AN EASY

11:36:54 ACCESS AND WON'T HAVE TO GO AND BACKTRACK AND ADD TO

11:36:55 PALM, TO 7TH.

11:36:57 IT GETS THEM TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO WITH LESS

11:37:00 VEHICLES MILES OF TRAVEL IS WHAT IT COULD DO.

11:37:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

11:37:04 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN

11:37:05 DINGFELDER.

11:37:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:37:10 NO SECRET I HAVE BEEN OPPOSED TO THIS FOR QUITE SOME

11:37:10 TIME.

11:37:13 SECRETARY, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE.

11:37:14 PLEASE, AND THANK YOU.

11:37:16 BUT I SEE THE HANDWRITING ON THE WALL.

11:37:21 AND THE CONCERNS THAT I AM HEARING ARE FOR PUBLIC

11:37:23 SAFETY.

11:37:26 AND TO ENSURE -- LET ME DIGRESS.

11:37:33 I APOLOGIZE -- THAT WHEN I WAS WITH THE YDC.

11:37:37 WE TOOK OVER -- THE CITY OF TAMPA TOOK OVER 21ST AND

11:37:38 22ND STREET.

11:37:40 AND WE WERE CONCERNED THAT THE DIVERSIONS OF PEOPLE

11:37:44 EXITING ON 21ST AND 22ND STREET WAS TAKING AWAY THE

11:37:46 POSSIBILITY OF RETAIL.

11:37:49 MY UNDERSTANDING THE CITY'S VIEW ON THIS THAT THE 14TH,

11:37:54 15TH STREET WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO TRAVEL

11:37:58 WITHIN YBOR, WITHIN YBOR PROPER, WITHIN PARTS OF EAST

11:38:02 TAMPA AND TAKE AN EXIT ON 14TH AND 15TH STREET TO GET

11:38:03 TO HCC.

11:38:06 GET TO ANYTHING UP AND DOWN NUCCIO PARKWAY.

11:38:10 GET TO ANYTHING UP 14TH AND 15TH STREET ON -- ON -- IN

11:38:11 V M YBOR.

11:38:15 BUT I REFLECT BACK ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

11:38:19 AND I AM HOPING THAT YOU, SECRETARY GWYNN, WILL MAKE

11:38:23 SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT IN YOUR EFFORTS, TO

11:38:27 MAKE THIS PROPER, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HELP REDUCE

11:38:30 SPEED LIMITS ALONG THE ROADS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY

11:38:31 14TH, 15TH STREET.

11:38:38 THAT YOU AND FDOT WILL ADD PEDESTRIAN CROSS.

11:38:42 THAT YOU AND FDOT WILL UPGRADE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN

11:38:43 CROSSINGS.

11:38:47 PUT WARNING SIGNALS ON PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

11:38:50 MAKE SURE FLASHING BEACONS, PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS AND MAKE

11:38:54 SURE THAT LANDSCAPING IS THERE, AND MAKE SURE DEFINITE

11:38:57 AND CONCISE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC ON WHAT IS

11:39:00 BEING DONE AND HAVE THEIR INPUT PUT IN.

11:39:04 IF FDOT T WILL MOVE FORWARD IN THIS OPTION THOSE ARE

11:39:08 THE THINGS THAT I AM ASKING AND THE DEPARTMENT WITH THE

11:39:12 CITY OF TAMPA, TO ASSURE A TRAFFIC CALMING, BECAUSE

11:39:14 THIS IS GOING TO CREATE MORE OF A PROBLEM, IN MY

11:39:18 OPINION, WITH THESE CARS COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE

11:39:20 SPEEDING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.

11:39:23 WITH TRAFFIC CALMING AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS

11:39:28 ARE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

11:39:32 AGAIN, I HAVE NOT BEEN WITH THIS FROM THE BEGINNING.

11:39:35 I HAVE BEEN TO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE SAW

11:39:38 ONE ANOTHER AT COMMUNITY THINGS.

11:39:40 BUT THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING FOR.

11:39:47 AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GREEN SPINE IS NOT EFFECTED.

11:39:50 >> WE WILL COMMIT TO THAT IN FACT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND

11:39:53 ANOTHER $700 TODAY 800 TO PUT TOWARD THE GREEN SPINE TO

11:39:56 BE DIVERTED FROM SAVINGS ON OTHER PROJECTS.

11:39:59 WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO GET ALL OF THAT, AND WE

11:40:00 WILL COMMIT TO THAT.

11:40:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN BACK WHEN I WAS ON YCDC, SIX

11:40:09 YEARS AGO THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, FORGIVE ME FOR SAYING

11:40:14 THIS, THIS IS STILL PART OF A PROJECT FROM 1995.

11:40:17 LET'S TAKE WHAT IS ON THE TABLE, WIPE IT CLEAN.

11:40:20 NOW I CAN'T SAY THIS BECAUSE I AM ON ANOTHER BOARD WITH

11:40:23 THESE TWO OTHER GENTLEMEN HERE, TWO OTHER

11:40:24 COUNCILMEMBERS HERE.

11:40:30 BUT ON ALL OF YOUR PICTURES, LITTLE TINY PICTURES UP

11:40:34 HERE UNTB NEXT.

11:40:35 I DON'T SEE RAIL.

11:40:38 TAKE EVERYTHING OFF THE TABLE, AND THE NEXT PROJECT

11:40:41 THAT FDOT, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS TO

11:40:45 START THINKING ABOUT IS SOME SORT OF RAIL.

11:40:48 BRINGING THE COMMUTERS FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA INTO THE

11:40:51 CITY OF TAMPA.

11:40:52 I AM DONE RANTING, MR. CHAIR.

11:40:54 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT.

11:40:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:40:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:41:01 JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

11:41:07 I HAVEN'T DECIDED HOW I -- THE CONCLUSION ON THIS 14TH

11:41:08 AND 15TH.

11:41:09 I AM GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION.

11:41:12 I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING TO SEE ME LAST WEEK ON THIS

11:41:14 REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

11:41:17 ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT IS, YOU

11:41:23 INDICATE WITH THE VARIOUS ACRONYMS, BUT THE SEIS

11:41:27 PROCESS IS WRAPPING UP OR FINISHED, AND NOW IT GOES TO

11:41:28 WASHINGTON.

11:41:31 DO THEY TAKE FURTHER INPUT?

11:41:35 IF FOLKS WANT TO GIVE THEM DIRECT INPUT TO WASHINGTON,

11:41:37 THAT STILL AN OPEN PROCESS?

11:41:37 >> YES.

11:41:40 AND WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS LAST WEEK.

11:41:43 THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS STILL OPEN.

11:41:45 ED, DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT ENDS?

11:41:47 30 DAYS?

11:41:49 SOMEWHERE TOWARD THE END OF THIS MONTH AND IT WILL

11:41:49 ACTUALLY END.

11:41:52 YOU CAN SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING,

11:41:57 WE PROVIDED A COURT REPORTER WHO WAS RECORDING IF

11:41:59 PEOPLE MADE ORAL STATEMENTS AND WRITTEN STATEMENTS.

11:42:02 OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THEY HAVE BEEN

11:42:05 PLUCKED IN THE WHOLE TIME AND NOT LIKE THEY GET HAND

11:42:06 THIS AND REVIEW IT.

11:42:08 THEY HAVE REVIEWED IT THE WHOLE WAY.

11:42:12 THEY SIGN THE DRAFT DOCUMENT WHICH IS WHAT WE WENT TO

11:42:13 PUBLIC HEARING WITH.

11:42:17 WE DIDN'T GO UNLESS THEY INSIDE OFF WITH THE DRAFT

11:42:17 DOCUMENT.

11:42:21 NOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO TO FINALIZE THE DOCUMENT

11:42:25 AND ONE FINAL REVIEW IN TALLAHASSEE AND HOME OFFICE IN

11:42:31 DC, AND ALL THIS GOES WELL AT THIS POINT, WE WILL HAVE

11:42:32 FINAL RECORD OF DECISION.

11:42:35 ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE HAD ABOUT 15 PEOPLE MAKE

11:42:37 PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:42:41 IT WAS ABOUT 50% POSITIVE.

11:42:42 50% NEGATIVE.

11:42:46 CERTAINLY NOT WHAT IT WAS YEARS AGO -- BEFORE WE MADE

11:42:47 CHANGES LIKE REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE DOWNTOWN

11:42:52 INTERCHANGE, PUTTING BACK IN FLORIBRASKA AND MAKING

11:42:57 OTHER MODIFICATIONS BROUGHT TO US BY THE PUBLIC.

11:42:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THE

11:43:03 PROCESS AND IN A FORUM LIKE THIS, IT IS EXTREME

11:43:07 IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING ON

11:43:10 AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT THROUGH THIS

11:43:15 FEDERAL PROCESS.

11:43:20 DID THE MPO TAKE AN OFFICIAL POSITION ON THIS?

11:43:23 IS THAT THEIR PLACE TO DO SO?

11:43:26 >> THE MPO DID SUPPORT -- ONE, THEY SUPPORTED THE

11:43:30 WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE AND APPROVED HAVING THE PROJECTS

11:43:32 IN THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

11:43:36 SO EFFECTIVELY THE MPO HAS ENDORSED THOSE PROJECTS TO

11:43:39 GO INTO THE TRANSPORTATION PROCESS.

11:43:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THIS EXIT,

11:43:45 THE 14TH AND 15TH STREET WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUNDLE

11:43:48 THAT THE MPO VOTED ON?

11:43:51 >> THAT WAS PART OF THE ENTIRE TWO PROJECTS OREGON

11:43:55 LESS, THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE AND WESTSHORE

11:43:58 INTERCHANGE THAT WAS PRESENTED.

11:43:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

11:44:01 HAND IN HAND WITH THAT AND SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC AND

11:44:04 APPRECIATE A LITTLE INDULGENCE.

11:44:07 THE LAST TIME YOUR FOLKS WERE HERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF

11:44:10 YOU WERE HERE OR NOT, THE ISSUE OF THE TOLL LANES.

11:44:14 THE SO-CALLED LEXUS LANES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

11:44:18 I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS YOU OR

11:44:21 SOMEBODY ELSE THAT SAID THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN, QUOTE,

11:44:26 APPROVED COMING OFF THE BRIDGE FROM PINELLAS IN THE

11:44:31 FUTURE UP UNTIL I THINK SOMEBODY SAID THE RIVER.

11:44:33 THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.

11:44:37 I HAVE BEEN PRETTY -- LONG BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT TO

11:44:42 TAMPA, I WAS ADAMANT OPPOSED TO TOLLING ANY PART OF OUR

11:44:48 -- ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO TOLLING OF ANY LANES IN THE

11:44:51 CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE HAVE AN INPUT ON.

11:44:55 I WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHAT WAS MEANT FOR THAT

11:44:57 AND THE PROCESS OF MAKING THAT DECISION.

11:45:02 I APOLOGIZE IT IS SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC AND RELATED TO THE

11:45:03 BIG PICTURE.

11:45:06 >> THE VARIABLE TOLL LANES WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD IN THE

11:45:11 SEIS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING AND USED AS CONGESTION

11:45:14 MANAGEMENT TOOL IS ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED THROUGHOUT THE

11:45:14 PROCESS.

11:45:17 IT IS THE ONE THAT WE GOT -- ONE OF THE THINGS WE

11:45:22 WANTED TO DO WAS TO GET AS MUCH INPUT FROM THE REGION.

11:45:25 THE WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE IS A REGIONAL PROJECT.

11:45:28 I KNOW IT IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT

11:45:31 AND WEST TAMPA, ABOUT YOU A REGIONAL PROJECT THAT

11:45:35 CONNECTS VETERANS EXPRESSWAY TO COURTNEY CAMPBELL

11:45:40 CAUSEWAY, THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, I-275, SORT OF

11:45:42 THE MIDPOINT WHERE EVERYTHING COMES TOGETHER.

11:45:45 SO WORKSHOP ABLE TO GET -- WANTED TO GET SUPPORT AND

11:45:47 NONSUPPORT AND WE GOT SUPPORT FROM LITERALLY

11:45:54 ESSENTIALLY EVERYONE OF THE CITIES AND COUNTIES, MPOS,

11:45:57 BUSINESS GROUPS IN THE ENTIRE REGION, AND PART OF THE

11:46:01 REASON I BELIEVE TO GET THE 1.4 BILLION TO BRING TO THE

11:46:01 PROJECT.

11:46:05 SO THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY ESSENTIALLY EVERY AGENCY

11:46:07 THAT WE HAVE ASKED TO SUPPORT IT.

11:46:11 AND NOT JUST HERE, BUT IN PINELLAS COUNTY, PASCO

11:46:13 COUNTY, THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

11:46:15 SO THAT'S BEEN IN THERE.

11:46:17 DOES IT MEAN THAT IT ALWAYS WILL HAVE TO BE A VARIABLE

11:46:18 TOLL LANE?

11:46:20 NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT.

11:46:23 WHAT IT MEANS THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SHOWING OUT THE

11:46:26 CONGESTION MANAGEMENT TOOL FOR THE EXPRESS LANES TO

11:46:29 KEEP IT FROM BECOMING LIKE THE OTHER LANES.

11:46:32 IN THE FUTURE AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, WE MAY BE ABLE TO

11:46:35 DO THINGS THAT YOU CAN DETECT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN A

11:46:38 VEHICLE AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR HOV PASSENGERS.

11:46:42 WE CAN ALLOW IT TO LET CONNECTED OR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES

11:46:44 THAT TRAVEL MUCH CLOSER TOGETHER.

11:46:47 MAYBE AT SOME POINT A LANE WILL BE FOR THAT PURPOSE.

11:46:50 I CAN'T REALLY TELL WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT

11:46:53 RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE CONCEPT THAT HAS BEEN USE IN

11:46:57 ORDER TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE EXPRESS LANES WORK.

11:47:01 AND ALSO TRANSIT IS ALLOWED TO GO FREE IN THE EXPRESS

11:47:01 LANES.

11:47:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR WHERE I

11:47:06 STAND ON IN.

11:47:08 YOU SAID YOU GOTTEN THE CITY'S APPROVAL.

11:47:11 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL EVER VOTED ON IT.

11:47:15 >> NO, I BELIEVE WE HAVE GOTTEN THE MAYOR'S SUPPORT.

11:47:20 I AM NOT SURE IF WE -- IF WE EVER CAME TO CITY COUNCIL.

11:47:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE MPO WITH REGARD TO

11:47:26 THE EXPRESS LANES AND THE DOCTOR MORE IMPORTANTLY THE

11:47:29 -- WHATEVER YOU CALL -- THE --

11:47:31 >> VARIABLE TOLL LANE.

11:47:32 THAT IS.

11:47:33 THEY DID SUPPORT THAT.

11:47:35 THAT WAS PART OF THE PROJECT.

11:47:40 WE DID ONE POINT SAID -- THAT VARIABLE TOLL MONEY IS

11:47:43 NOT REALLY TO RAISE REVENUE.

11:47:46 IT IS TO UPKEEP THE SYSTEM, BUT THE REST OF IT LIKE

11:47:48 THEY DO IN MIAMI CAN GO TO TRANSIT.

11:47:52 WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN MIAMI FOR THE EXIT TOLL REVENUE

11:47:57 IS USING TO SUPPORT THE EXPRESS LANE BUS TRANSIT

11:47:58 SYSTEM.

11:48:00 WHICH HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

11:48:04 A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THE EXPRESS BUS AND

11:48:07 EXPRESS LANES IN SOUTH FLORIDA CARRY MORE PASSENGER PER

11:48:08 DAY THAN SUN RAIL DOES.

11:48:10 IT IS VERY POPULAR.

11:48:15 AND I THINK IT COULD WORK HERE AS WELL.

11:48:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT COULD WORK BUT BEFORE --

11:48:22 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY QUICK IF WE MAY COUNCILMAN

11:48:25 DINGFELDER.

11:48:27 WRAP UP THE TOLL LANE ISSUE.

11:48:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS MY LAST STATEMENT.

11:48:32 THIS IS ALL ABOUT EQUITY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF

11:48:36 DISCUSSIONS OF EQUITY AND FAIRNESS IN THIS BODY, AND I

11:48:37 THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.

11:48:41 SOMEBODY MENTIONED -- WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO GET DEEP

11:48:47 INTO IT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT EQUITABLE AND FAIR

11:48:52 TO CHARGE -- POTENTIALLY BE CHARGING POOR PEOPLE WHO

11:48:55 CAN BARELY AFFORD THE CAR AND THE UPKEEP ON THE CAR AND

11:48:56 THE GAS AND ETC.

11:48:59 TO NOW CHARGE THEM FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING IN THAT

11:49:01 FASTER LANE.

11:49:06 AND WHY SHOULDN'T POOR PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO BE IN THAT

11:49:06 FASTER LANE.

11:49:09 AND NOBODY HAS EVER GIVEN ME A GOOD EXPLANATION.

11:49:13 YES, CAN YOU ZIP CARS THROUGH FASTER THROUGH THE

11:49:15 COMMUNITY BY DOING THAT?

11:49:15 PROBABLY.

11:49:19 I AM SURE YOU CAN PROVE THAT WITH VARIOUS MODELS.

11:49:23 BUT NOBODY IN MY OPINION HAS EVER ADDRESSED THE

11:49:27 FAIRNESS ISSUE.

11:49:31 NOW IN A MEETING, I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU AND WE HAD A

11:49:36 QUICK DISCUSSION ABOUT -- MAYBE SOME WAY TO GIVE PEOPLE

11:49:41 COUPONS OR SOME TYPE OF -- PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE POOR,

11:49:46 AND OTHERWISE COULDN'T USE THOSE LANES TO SUBSIDIZE

11:49:49 THEM THROUGH SOME SYSTEM.

11:49:54 BUT THAT SOUNDS VERY COMPLEX.

11:49:56 IN REGARD TO DOING THAT.

11:49:59 WITHOUT SOME WAY TO ADDRESS THE EQUITY AND FAIRNESS,

11:50:05 LET'S NEW AT CONVERSELY, TO ADDRESS THE UNFAIRNESS OF

11:50:07 THOSE LEXUS LANES.

11:50:08 YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

11:50:11 AND I HOPE THIS COUNCIL AND THAT MAYOR CAN'T SUPPORT

11:50:12 IT.

11:50:15 AND FRANKLY I HOPE THAT WE DON'T DO IT ANYWHERE IN THE

11:50:17 CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

11:50:19 THAT IS MY SOAPBOX.

11:50:20 THANK YOU.

11:50:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:50:23 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST.

11:50:25 THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST

11:50:28 FEW YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE.

11:50:31 THE COMMUNITY HAVEN'T GOTTEN EVERYTHING THEY WANTED AND

11:50:32 GIVEN THEM SOME.

11:50:35 I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU LISTEN.

11:50:37 AND IN PARTICULAR FOR ISSUES LIKE REOPENING

11:50:41 FLORIBRASKA.

11:50:45 YOU AND I TALKED AND I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK

11:50:48 FROM THIS COMMUNITY BUT I WOULD BE AGAINST THE EXIT AND

11:50:50 I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR IT.

11:50:53 IF ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, I WILL SUPPORT IT.

11:50:56 BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING TO TRY TO LISTEN TO

11:50:58 THE COMMUNITY AND WORK OUT MORE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY

11:50:59 WANTS, THANK YOU.

11:51:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

11:51:06 STANDING THERE AND YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT COME IN HERE

11:51:08 FROM TIME TO TIME FOR BEING ABLE TO STAND THERE.

11:51:09 YOU TOUCHED ON IT.

11:51:10 YOU AGREED TO IT.

11:51:13 BUT I AM GOING TO ASK ONE MORE TIME.

11:51:16 FDOT WORK WITH THE CITY OF TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO

11:51:20 ENSURE THAT ADDITIONAL CALMING AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY

11:51:23 IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT

11:51:25 WITH THE PRIORITY ON SAFETY.

11:51:28 AND CLEAR SIGNAGE TO REDUCE CONFUSION FOR DRIVERS IN

11:51:29 ANY AREA.

11:51:32 ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THIS SIGN -- EXCUSE ME, WHEN THE

11:51:36 DESIGN SUNDAY WAY THAT FDOT GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY

11:51:39 AND WITH THE PROPOSED SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AND FEATURES.

11:51:40 WILL YOU DO THAT FOR US?

11:51:41 >> YES, SIR.

11:51:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:51:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE -- WAS THE CITY

11:51:48 AND F DOT LOOKING FOR A VOTE TODAY?

11:51:51 >>LUIS VIERA: NOT NECESSARILY, NO.

11:51:56 JUST BE HEARD AND TAKING VOTES AT THE END.

11:52:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ASK THE IS HE AND OUR CITY VOTES TO

11:52:05 PROVIDE SOME DOCUMENTATION FROM THE CHAMBER, THE YCDC

11:52:09 AND THE CRAS AND SOMETHING TOWARD SO WE KNOW WHAT 9

11:52:11 COMMUNITY -- IF THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION OR NOT.

11:52:15 THAT WOULD EASE MY MIND AND SAFETY CONCERNS THAT

11:52:20 COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID AND GETTING THE LETTER FROM A LAN

11:52:21 TEMPLE TODAY.

11:52:23 THAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME.

11:52:25 I WILL BE HONEST TO YOU.

11:52:28 AN AFFLUENT CHURCH WITH A LOT OF MEMBERS AND NOT THAT

11:52:32 IT HAS BEARING OR NOT BUT SURPRISED FROM THE LETTER I

11:52:33 DID RECEIVE FROM HIM.

11:52:37 WHAT I WILL AGREE WITH MR. CITRO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT

11:52:37 PLANS.

11:52:42 THE CITY HAS ALL THESE PLANS THAT ARE ON SHELVES AND

11:52:45 DUSTED OFF AND THEY ARE OUTDATED.

11:52:47 THEY ARE ALL OUTDATED.

11:52:50 WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE RAIL --

11:52:53 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT 25%.

11:52:55 THAT IS KEY THAT 25%.

11:52:56 50 FROM THE FEDS.

11:52:58 25 FROM THE STATE.

11:53:01 25 FROM LOCAL COUNTY.

11:53:05 AND I TOLD YOU PUBLICLY AND LIKE I TOLD YOU.

11:53:09 THERE NEEDS TO BE A MEETING -- NOT WITH THE MPO BUT THE

11:53:13 REAL STAKEHOLDERS, THIS COUNCIL, THE COMMISSION, TEMPLE

11:53:15 TERRACE, PLANT CITY.

11:53:18 WE ALL NEED TO BE AS A BODY TO DISCUSS THE NEXT PLANS

11:53:22 AND WHAT WE THINK OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO SEE

11:53:25 SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT PERTAINS TO RAIL, THE RAILROADS.

11:53:28 AND THAT WAY YOU ARE NOT HEARING FROM DIFFERENT BODIES

11:53:29 AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

11:53:33 NOT THE MPO, BUT THE ONES WHO -- YOU COME TO ASK FOR

11:53:36 APPROVAL AND ASK FOR OUR BLESSINGS.

11:53:39 YOU ARE NOT MEETING WITH US AS A WHOLE BODY, BECAUSE

11:53:43 YOU CAN'T GET ONE SET IDEAS OR ANOTHER.

11:53:46 AND YOU HAVE TO COLLECTIVELY GET IDEAS TO FIGHT IT OUT

11:53:49 THERE AND NOW YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THE CITIZEN OF TAMPA,

11:53:55 FOR RAIL, FOR STREET CAR, WHATEVER HAS TO HAPPEN.

11:53:59 AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IN THOSE RULES.

11:54:01 YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE MIDDLE UNDONE.

11:54:05 YOU CAN'T START OVER HERE AND THERE AND IT HAS TO START

11:54:07 WHERE THE ACTUAL TRACKS ARE OUT AND THAT IS AT THE

11:54:08 MIDDLE.

11:54:11 EVERYBODY HAS AN EQUAL BALANCE TO WHATEVER MODE OF

11:54:13 TRANSPORTATION THAT WE DESIRE.

11:54:16 BUT I AM ASKING YOU AND THE CITY TO SOMEHOW COME UP

11:54:21 WITH A STRATEGY TO GET ALL THE COMMISSIONS TOGETHER FOR

11:54:25 -- FOR A MEETING SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES IN

11:54:26 THE NEAR FUTURE.

11:54:27 SOONER THAN LATER.

11:54:28 I THINK THEY ARE IMPORTANT.

11:54:29 THANK YOU.

11:54:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

11:54:31 WE APPRECIATE IT.

11:54:34 I GO BACK TO ONE THING THAT I SAID LAST YEAR WHEN THIS

11:54:37 ISSUE CAME UP, THE GLUE THAT WILL HOLD A LOT OF THESE

11:54:39 THINGS TOGETHER IS THAT PENNY SALES TAX.

11:54:43 AND I JUST GO BACK TO THAT ISSUE WHICH IS, WE TALK

11:54:47 ABOUT THINGS LIKE RAIL, BRT, ETC.

11:54:49 WITHOUT THAT MONEY, WE ARE LOST.

11:54:50 WE ARE LOST.

11:54:52 WITH THAT MONEY WE GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

11:54:56 I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE I SUPPORTED THE SALES TAX IN 2018

11:54:59 AND SUPPORT IF NEED BE TO REAUTHORIZE IT TODAY.

11:54:59 WHY?

11:55:02 BECAUSE IT GETS US TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

11:55:04 NOT ABOUT AFFLUENCE.

11:55:06 LET'S DO SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED.

11:55:10 THIS A BASIC NECESSITY THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.

11:55:14 WE ARE RUNNING 20, 30 YEARS BEHIND WHEN IT COMES TO

11:55:15 MASS TRANSIT.

11:55:17 HELPS US GET TO WHERE WE ARE AT.

11:55:19 I CONTINUE TO SAY THAT.

11:55:20 THE COUNTY COMMISSION WILL BE LOOKING AGAIN AT THIS

11:55:23 ISSUE IN APRIL AND ENCOURAGE ALL MY FELLOW

11:55:26 COUNCILMEMBERS TO GO AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

11:55:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

11:55:30 THANK YOU.

11:55:37 NOW BEFORE WE MOVE TO 63 AND 64, 61 AND 62 SHOULD BE

11:55:39 ABLE TO KNOCK OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.

11:55:41 WHO IS HERE FOR 60.

11:55:45 FOR OUR CLERKS OKAY BY 12:35 FOR LUNCH SNAP OKAY FOR

11:55:49 YOU GUY AS SOON AS HOW ABOUT 12:36?

11:55:52 THANK YOU.

11:55:56 GOOD MORNING, JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

11:55:58 WITH REGARD TO ITEM 60 ON THE AGENDA.

11:56:02 THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS TO CONDUCT AN IRS

11:56:02 REQUIRED --

11:56:05 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, NEED TO REOPEN PUBLIC

11:56:05 HEARINGS.

11:56:06 HAVE A VOTE.

11:56:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.

11:56:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:56:19 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION.

11:56:21 >> THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IRS REQUIRED

11:56:24 PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY TO CONTINUE IMPROVING THE

11:56:28 ISSUANCE OF REVENUE AND REFUNDING BONDS.

11:56:31 THESE ARE CALLED THE SERIES 2020 BONDS.

11:56:37 AND THEY ARE IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 147 MILLION.

11:56:39 PROJECTS TO BE FINANCED WITH FUNDS OF THE UNIVERSITY

11:56:44 AND THE PROCEEDS OF THE SERIES 2020 BONDS INCLUDE

11:56:47 THROUGH REIMBURSEMENT, THE ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION,

11:56:50 EQUIPPING AND INSTALLATION OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES

11:56:53 WHICH INCLUDE A FINE ARTS BUILDING, A TECHNOLOGY

11:56:56 BUILDING, AND EXPANSION OF A FITNESS CENTER AND A

11:56:59 PARKING FACILITY AND THE REFINANCING OF CERTAIN

11:57:00 OUTSTANDING DEBT.

11:57:06 IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SERIES 2020 BONDS AND

11:57:13 THE INTEREST THEREIN WILL NOT HAVE A DEBTEDNESS OF THE

11:57:14 CITY AND OTHER AGENCY.

11:57:21 THESE SERIES 2020 BONDS ARE BY THE UNIVERSITY.

11:57:26 TODAY IS MERELY A PUBLIC HEARING AND THURSDAY MARCH 16,

11:57:30 A RESOLUTION BY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA APPROVING THE BOND

11:57:31 DOCUMENTS.

11:57:33 I'M HERE AND REPRESENTATIVES OF UT TO ANSWER ANY

11:57:34 QUESTIONS.

11:57:35 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS.

11:57:37 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

11:57:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I APPRECIATE US PULLING IN

11:57:41 AND REVISITING IT TODAY.

11:57:44 JUST IN REGARD TO -- IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND WE LOVE

11:57:47 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, I BELIEVE THERE ARE TENANTS

11:57:51 FOR $1 A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE LAST WHO

11:57:53 KNOWS, 70 YEARS.

11:57:54 BUT WE DO.

11:57:57 WE LOVE THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.

11:58:00 DR. VAUGHN AND HIS STAFF AND TEAM AND SUPPORTERS ARE

11:58:04 DOING A GREAT JOB THERE, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE

11:58:10 THIS WASN'T CREATED AN INDEBTEDNESS OR FINANCIAL RISK

11:58:12 OR LIABILITY TO THE CITY ITSELF.

11:58:13 >> BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY.

11:58:16 YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND WE APPRECIATE IT, THANK

11:58:16 YOU.

11:58:17 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE.

11:58:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY

11:58:21 WATCHING AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.

11:58:23 THIS IS JUST A PASS THROUGH.

11:58:24 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

11:58:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE CITY OF TAMPA IS JUST COLLECTING

11:58:29 ITS MONEY AND PASSING IT BACK THROUGH?

11:58:29 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

11:58:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:58:35 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, ANYTHING?

11:58:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:58:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 60

11:58:44 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:58:46 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:58:48 ALL IN FAVOR.

11:58:49 ANY OPPOSED.

11:58:50 EYE THEM IN 61.

11:58:55 >> JUSTIN VASKE FOR ITEM 61.

11:58:57 THE HOME RULE ORDINANCE.

11:59:00 THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE

11:59:04 EXERCISE OF THE HOME WORLD POWERS RELATED TO THE

11:59:08 INFLUENCE OF THE SERIES 2020 BONDS FROM THE UNIVERSITY

11:59:11 OF TAMPA AS A INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION.

11:59:15 CHAPTER 159 FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDE AUTHORITIES FOR

11:59:17 FINANCING A PORTION OF THE UNIVERSITY'S PROJECTS.

11:59:20 THIS HOME RULE ORDINANCE FOR FINANCING ADDITIONAL TYPES

11:59:24 OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES FOR THE UNIVERSITY.

11:59:27 ONCE AGAIN IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SERIES 2020

11:59:30 BONDS ISSUED FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA PROJECT AND

11:59:36 THE INTEREST THEREIN SHALL NOT CONSTITUTE INDEBTEDNESS

11:59:40 FOR ANY SUBDIVISION OR AGENCY.

11:59:46 THE SERIES 2020 BONDS ARE SAYABLE.

11:59:48 >> ANY QUESTIONS.

11:59:50 >> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

11:59:52 BEFORE ANY COMMENT ON 61.

11:59:54 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:59:55 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN

11:59:56 MANISCALCO.

11:59:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:00:01 ANY OPPOSED.

12:00:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA

12:00:06 PROVIDING AUTHORITY FOR THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS OF

12:00:09 ASSISTANCE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA INCORPORATED AS

12:00:12 AN INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION PROVIDING BINDING,

12:00:14 DEFINITIONS AND GENERAL POWERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL,

12:00:17 PROVIDING CRITERIA AND REQUIREMENTS FOR ASSISTANCE TO

12:00:21 BE RENDERED TO SUCH INSTITUTION AND PROVIDING FOR TERMS

12:00:24 OF SUCH ASSISTANCE, CREDIT OR ANY REVENUES OR PROPERTY

12:00:29 OF THE CITY SHALL BE PLEDGED PROVIDED FOR THE ISSUER OF

12:00:33 REVENUE BONDS AND FROM PAYMENT AND SUCH BOND FOR THE

12:00:35 ISSUANCE OF REFUNDING BONDS PROVIDING THAT THE

12:00:38 PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE IN ADDITION TO

12:00:41 OTHER AUTHORIZING MEANS OF THE MANNER OF CONSTRUCTION

12:00:46 AND REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES WITH PROVIDING FOR

12:00:48 SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:00:50 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:00:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:00:53 IN FAVOR.

12:00:57 >>CLERK: MR. CHAIR, SECOND READING AN ADOPTION ON

12:01:01 MARCH 19, 2020 AT 9:30.

12:01:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:01:10 62.

12:01:12 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD MORNING, CATE WELLS WITH THE CITY

12:01:13 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

12:01:17 ITEM 62 IS THE SECOND OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON A

12:01:21 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY THE FLORIDA LOCAL GOVERNMENT

12:01:21 DEVELOPMENT ACT.

12:01:23 THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WAS FEBRUARY 20.

12:01:30 I KNOW THAT TYLER HUDSON IS PRESENT IF HE WANTS TO MAKE

12:01:32 A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COVERS AND

12:01:34 A RESOLUTION FOR YOUR APPROVAL IF THE CLERK'S OFFICE

12:01:36 DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE IT.

12:01:37 THANK YOU.

12:01:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

12:01:39 MR. HUDSON.

12:01:45 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, TYLER HUDSON.

12:01:48 THE HARRISON BRICK STREET RECONNECTION.

12:01:53 WE WILL ASK THAT YOU PASS IT AGAIN.

12:01:55 I WILL BE HEALTH TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

12:01:56 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

12:01:58 PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 62.

12:02:00 MOTION AND CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:02:02 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:02:03 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:02:04 ANY OPPOSED?

12:02:06 WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.

12:02:07 >> SO MOVED.

12:02:12 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND

12:02:14 BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:02:16 >> 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.

12:02:19 >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

12:02:19 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:02:20 ANY OPPOSED?

12:02:27 MOVE TO 63 -- MY ASPIRATION IS TO FINISH THESE TWO

12:02:34 NAIVELY 12:35 IF IT COULD BE DONE.

12:02:39 >>CATE WELLS: ITEM 64 IS THE ITEM WHERE THE CITY HAS

12:02:42 OBTAINED A SPANISH INTERPRETER.

12:02:43 IF WE CAN TAKE THAT ONE FIRST.

12:02:46 AND HANDING OUT THE PROCEDURES FOR BOTH OF TODAY'S

12:02:47 HEARINGS.

12:02:55 >>LUIS VIERA: BEGINNING WITH 64.

12:02:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE AN ATTEMPT TO RECESS AFTER

12:02:59 THESE?

12:03:04 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE BEGIN --

12:03:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF HERE.

12:03:07 >>LUIS VIERA: DO 64.

12:03:09 POTENTIALLY 63.

12:03:11 RECESS AROUND 12:30 OR SO.

12:03:13 I KNOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA YOU HAVE TO LEAVE SIR.

12:03:17 WE WANT TO GET THROUGH THIS INTERPRETER ONE AT THE VERY

12:03:18 LEAST.

12:03:20 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCILMAN WITH REGARDS TO

12:03:24 COMING BACK WHEN?

12:03:30 IS 1:45 OKAY FOR EVERYBODY?

12:03:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION

12:03:34 WHICH 1:30.

12:03:36 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE TO COME BACK AT 1:3.

12:03:40 WE HAVE TO LEAVE HERE AT 12:30 TO GET AN HOUR.

12:03:40 OKAY.

12:03:42 GO AHEAD.

12:03:44 >>CATE WELLS: I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN

12:03:46 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PRESENT THAT WEREN'T SWORN IN

12:03:47 EARLIER.

12:03:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

12:03:52 IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND AND PREPARE

12:04:05 TO BE SWORN IN.

12:04:09 >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT YOU WILL TRANSLATE THE

12:04:15 TESTIMONY GOING IN A PROPER MANNER.

12:04:15 >> YES.

12:04:18 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:04:26 ITEM 64 WITH VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR THE PROPERTY

12:04:32 10504 NORTH 21ST STREET.

12:04:37 IT WAS FOR A VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND THE PETITIONER

12:04:40 IS SEEKING A REVIEW HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

12:04:44 IN ACCORDANCE TO SUBSECTIONS J2.

12:04:48 A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW.

12:04:51 THIS COUNCIL GETS TO SIT IN THE SHOES OF THE VARIANCE

12:04:55 REVIEW BOARD AND MAKE A DECISION AS IF YOU ARE MAKING

12:04:57 IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

12:05:00 YOU ARE NOT BOUND BY THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE

12:05:02 REVIEW BOARD.

12:05:05 YOU GET TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE

12:05:07 SUBMITTED IN TODAY'S HEARING.

12:05:13 THERE WAS ONE REQUEST FOR VARIANCE IN THIS MATTER FOR A

12:05:18 SIDE YARD VARIANCE FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FOOT.

12:05:22 VARIANCE BOARD VOTED BY 7-0 TO DENY IT SAYING THE

12:05:26 PETITIONER DID NOT REACH THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN

12:05:28 27-80.

12:05:39 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO REBECCA MEADE-CURRY

12:05:41 BEFORE AND AFTER THE REQUEST AS A GUIDE.

12:05:46 THANK YOU.

12:05:52 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY, PLANNING.

12:05:55 I AM THE VARIANCE REVIEW ADMINISTRATOR.

12:06:02 BASICALLY -- WE HAVE A BRIEF SUMMARY AGAIN OF THE CASE

12:06:06 THAT WAS PRESENTED.

12:06:10 AND THE SECTION UNDER REVIEW WITH 27156 AND THE

12:06:14 APPLICANT WAS SEEKING A REDUCTION OF THE SIDE YARD

12:06:14 SETBACK.

12:06:20 THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN RED.

12:06:25 THE STREET IS HERE.

12:06:29 ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE RS-60.

12:06:34 THE SITE PLAN HERE IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE ALONG

12:06:35 23RD.

12:06:39 SIDE YARD -- THE AREA IN QUESTION IS HERE WHERE THEY

12:06:43 ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SET BACK TO SEVEN

12:06:46 FEET FOR THE SCREEN ENCLOSURE THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED

12:06:48 HERE.

12:06:50 RIGHT-OF-WAY TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES FOUND

12:06:54 IT CONSISTENT AND ZONING FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AND

12:06:57 ASKED FOR THE CONDITION THAT THEY OBTAIN PERMITS ONCE

12:06:58 AND IF APPROVED.

12:07:03 I HAVE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM IF

12:07:06 THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

12:07:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PLEASE, THE -- THIS IS THE FRONT OF

12:07:19 THE PROPERTY.

12:07:23 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.

12:07:28 LOOKING NORTH.

12:07:35 AND THE AREA IN QUESTION IS THIS ADDITION HERE.

12:07:38 >> ANY QUESTIONS?

12:07:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, HOW IS -- FORGET ME FOR HAVING

12:07:43 STEPPED UP QUICKLY.

12:07:46 IS THIS STRUCTURE GOING TO BE TORN DOWN THAT IS THERE

12:07:49 NOW, THE OVERHANG AND THE POLES.

12:07:52 OR SCREENS BEING PUT ON THAT?

12:07:54 >> THEY ARE ACTUALLY TOOK OFF THE SCREEN THAT WAS THERE

12:07:57 SO THEY ASKED FOR THE SCREEN AREA TO BE REPLACED.

12:08:01 THEY REVISED CODE ENFORCEMENT TO REMOVE THE SCREEN AND

12:08:03 WANT TO KEEP THE STRUCTURE THAT IS HERE.

12:08:06 AND REPLACE THE SCREEN THAT WAS REMOVED.

12:08:07 >> YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION.

12:08:11 IS THAT SPECIFIC PART, THE ROOF AND THE POLES HOLDING

12:08:14 THE ROOF UP IS GOING TO STAY?

12:08:16 WAS THAT PERMITTED?

12:08:18 >> NO, IT WAS NOT.

12:08:20 >> IF I CAN CLARIFY.

12:08:24 MR. CITRO -- IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY.

12:08:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CLARIFICATION WILL COME FROM THE

12:08:28 SETBACK ITSELF, CORRECT?

12:08:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE STRUCTURE IS THE

12:08:32 SUBJECT OF THE CASE.

12:08:32 >> AGREED.

12:08:35 THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS JUST SHOWN IN THE PICTURE WAS

12:08:37 BUILT WITHOUT BENEFIT OF PERMITS.

12:08:41 IT ENCROACHING INTO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.

12:08:45 THE VARIANCE IS TO GO FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FOOT FOR

12:08:48 THE STRUCTURE TO REMAIN.

12:08:51 >> IT COUNCIL FOUND THEY MET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAN

12:08:54 FOR THE STRUCTURE TO REMAIN IN PLACE.

12:08:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ASK MY NEXT QUESTION.

12:09:00 WAS THE STRUCTURE NOT PERMITTED.

12:09:03 DOES IT MEET CODE NOW?

12:09:05 >> WHEN ASK YOU DOES IT MEET THE CODE, ARE YOU ASKING

12:09:08 ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE BUILDING CODE?

12:09:09 >> BOTH.

12:09:10 BECAUSE -- MY REASONING HERE.

12:09:17 AGAIN, IF THERE WAS NOT A STRUCTURE BEING BUILT, WOULD

12:09:20 VARIANCE REVIEW OR CODE ALLOW IT TO BE BUILT IN THIS

12:09:23 MANNER?

12:09:25 >> THE LOCATION WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY THE LAND

12:09:30 DEVELOPMENT CODE BECAUSE A SEVEN-YARD SIDE YARD

12:09:30 SETBACK.

12:09:33 THAT IS THE REQUEST FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FEET.

12:09:35 >> STRUCTURALLY.

12:09:37 >> FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE IF THE

12:09:39 VARIANCES ARE APPROVED, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD

12:09:47 HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT DURING PERMITTING.

12:09:50 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:09:52 GO AHEAD, SIR.

12:09:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY QUESTION WITH REFERENCE TO THE

12:09:55 STRUCTURE.

12:09:58 WAS THE STRUCTURE THERE WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY

12:09:59 AND ACQUIRED --

12:10:02 >> I SUBMIT THOSE ARE PROPER QUESTIONS FOR THE

12:10:03 APPLICANT.

12:10:05 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:10:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:10:09 I WAS JUST BROUGHT -- HOW WAS THIS BROUGHT TO THE

12:10:10 ATTENTION OF THE CITY.

12:10:14 A NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINT OR FOCUS OF THE CITY TO

12:10:19 PROACTIVELY FIND THESE ITEMS TO BE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

12:10:23 >> A CODE VINES THROUGH A COMPLIANCE BASED THROUGH A

12:10:24 CODE VIOLATION THROUGH A COMPLAINT.

12:10:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THROUGH COMPLAINTS.

12:10:31 AND I AM NOT -- I AM PRETTY LIBERAL, BUT I AM ALSO VERY

12:10:33 CONSERVATIVE AT THE SAME TIME.

12:10:36 THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THESE ALL OVER.

12:10:38 AND I MEAN TENS OF THOUSANDS.

12:10:42 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 100 OF THESE CASES EVERY DAY FOR

12:10:44 THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

12:10:46 AND YOU WILL NEVER FINISH.

12:10:48 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL OVER WEST TAMPA.

12:10:50 THEY ARE ALL OVER EAST TAMPA.

12:10:53 THEY ARE ALL OVER SOME AREAS LIKE THIS AREA.

12:10:54 WHAT I AM MOST CONCERNED.

12:10:58 NOT THAT I AM AGAINST OR FOR THESE ITEMS IS A HOME

12:11:01 BEING SPLIT WITHOUT THE GROUND BEING THE PROPER ZONING.

12:11:04 AND THERE IS AT LEAST 500 OF THOSE IN WEST TAMPA.

12:11:05 AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.

12:11:06 NUMBER ONE.

12:11:12 NUMBER TWO, IS WHOEVER FILED THE COMPLIANT, HAVE THEY

12:11:16 VISIBLY SHOWN THEMSELVES OR ONE ANONYMOUS BY PHONE.

12:11:18 >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

12:11:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARDON ME?

12:11:23 >> I AM NOT AWARE THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN THEMSELVES.

12:11:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCILMAN

12:11:26 MIRANDA.

12:11:28 IF I CAN JUST ASK THAT YOU DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE

12:11:32 CRITERIA, THE CODE AND SEE WHETHER THE FACT THAT YOU

12:11:35 FIND OUT -- AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE

12:11:38 PETITIONER YET TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY AND DON'T

12:11:41 MAKE ANY JUDGMENT UNTIL YOU HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE AND

12:11:41 APPLY --

12:11:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT THE SAME

12:11:48 QUESTION YOU ARE, MR. COUNSEL, IF YOU LET ME HANDLE IT,

12:11:51 LET ME HANDLE IT MY WAY.

12:11:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.

12:11:55 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

12:11:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT.

12:11:59 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

12:12:03 THANK YOU.

12:12:05 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

12:12:16 I'M THE SON-IN-LAW FOR THE OLIVEROS.

12:12:20 WE DID BRING THE DVDS FROM THE ORIGINAL HEARINGS THAT

12:12:21 WE WERE REQUESTED TO BRING.

12:12:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN PUT IN THE RECORD NOW,

12:12:24 PLEASE.

12:12:26 >> CERTAINLY.

12:12:37 THERE ARE TWO VIDEOS.

12:12:41 THE FIRST VIDEO WOULD SHOW THAT THE HEARING WAS

12:12:48 CONTINUED FOR LACK OF A INTERPRETER FOR MRS. OLIVEROS.

12:12:51 THE SECOND VIDEO IS A LITTLE MORE TELLING.

12:13:05 AND WHAT I WILL LIKE DO MY SPEECH OF WHAT WE ARE

12:13:06 LOOKING TO IN THE VARIANCE.

12:13:11 DURING THE INITIAL VARIANCE HEARING, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW

12:13:14 GOT CONFUSED AND WAS ARGUING REALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT

12:13:18 ISSUES BEFORE THE ORIGINAL HEARING BOARD.

12:13:24 AND THAT IS WHAT ULTIMATELY LED TO THE DENIAL SO THE

12:13:27 HARDSHIP ISSUES WERE NEVER ADDRESSED AND THAT'S WHAT WE

12:13:29 WOULD LIKE TO DO TODAY.

12:13:32 ALTHOUGH SHE WAS GIVEN SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS

12:13:37 THE HARDSHIP ISSUE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE

12:13:40 TRANSPARENT AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.

12:13:43 THERE ARE FIVE CATEGORIES.

12:13:45 AND I AM NOT SURE IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THE CATEGORIES

12:13:46 OR NOT.

12:13:49 AND I CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM.

12:14:00 BUT DURING THE PRESENTATION OF THE SELF.

12:14:03 THERE WAS ONE OPPOSING PERSON HAD, AND IT WAS HER

12:14:05 DIRECT NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH.

12:14:12 AND ONCE YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS

12:14:16 SOME -- WHAT IS THE WORD I AM LOOKING FOR DISLIKE

12:14:19 BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORS IF YOU WILL.

12:14:23 AND SO THERE WAS SOME ALLEGATIONS MADE BY THE NEIGHBOR

12:14:27 THAT WERE PRETTY MUCH UNJUST AND UNTRUE.

12:14:33 AND SO WE ARE HERE TO CLARIFY THAT ALSO.

12:14:36 MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS A GOOD PERSON.

12:14:37 SHE BELIEVES IN PEOPLE.

12:14:42 AND REALLY ALL SHE IS TRYING TO DO IS, YOU KNOW,

12:14:45 CONTINUE WITH A PROJECT IN THE HOUSE THAT HAD STARTED

12:14:49 WAY BACK IN THE DAY.

12:14:53 SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO INTO THE ACTUAL

12:14:56 CRITERIA ITSELF BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT -- THERE WERE

12:14:57 NOT DISCUSSED.

12:15:01 DO YOU WANT ME TO READ EACH OF THE CRITERIA OR READ THE

12:15:03 RESPONSES TO THE CRITERIA.

12:15:06 >>LUIS VIERA: WE UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T GUIDE YOU.

12:15:08 YOU WILL DO AS YOU PREFER.

12:15:12 >> IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, THE FIRST

12:15:15 CRITERIA SAYS THAT THE ALLEGED HARDSHIPS OR PRACTICAL

12:15:19 DIFFICULTIES ARE UNIQUE AND SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO

12:15:22 THE PROPERTY OR WITH RESPECT TO A STRUCTURE OR BUILDING

12:15:27 THEREON AND ARE NOT THOSE SUFFERED IN COMMON WITH OTHER

12:15:31 PROPERTIES, STRUCTURES OR BUILDING, SIMILARLY LOCATED.

12:15:31 OKAY.

12:15:36 SO THE RESPONSES TO THIS IS EACH PROPERTY AS EVERYBODY

12:15:38 KNOWS IS UNIQUE.

12:15:43 AND SO, THEREFORE, THEY ARE ALL SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM

12:15:46 ANY OTHER PROPERTY.

12:15:48 THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROPERTY MAKES THIS VARIANCE

12:15:54 SINGULAR IN RELATION TO THE REQUESTS OF THE VARIANCE.

12:15:54 OKAY.

12:15:59 THIS PROPERTY WAS ENCLOSED -- I AM SORRY, THE PROPERTY

12:16:08 ENCLOSED THE CARPORT WHICH IF I CAN PUT THE PICTURES --

12:16:11 CAN I BORROW THE PICTURE WHERE IT SHOWS THE SIDE?

12:16:21 I APOLOGIZE BUT THE HOME ORIGINALLY HAD OVER WHERE THAT

12:16:24 -- IN FRONT OF THIS HONDA WHERE THAT LITTLE AIR

12:16:27 CONDITIONER SITS, THAT USED TO BE A CARPORT.

12:16:34 THAT WAS CLOSED IN BACK IT LOOKS LIKE '92 OR EARLIER.

12:16:37 THAT WAS ALL PERMITTED AND DONE THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE

12:16:37 BEEN DONE.

12:16:40 AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS THE ADDITIONAL CON SECRETE

12:16:49 THAT WAS POURED TO THE SIDE AND SO ALL THE PROPER

12:16:50 PERMITS AT THE TIME.

12:16:52 THE CARPORT WAS ENCLOSED.

12:16:54 THE CONCRETE WAS ALREADY THERE.

12:16:57 ALL THE BASELINE FOR IT WAS ALREADY THERE AT THE TIME.

12:17:03 OKAY.

12:17:07 FOR ALL THE YEARS THE UNUSED CONCRETE AND REALLY HAD NO

12:17:09 -- NO PURPOSE OR ANYTHING.

12:17:16 SO IN TRYING TO GET THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY, ABOUT

12:17:19 FOUR YEARS AGO, THE HOMEOWNERS HAD A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY

12:17:28 AND THEY DECIDED TO PUT IN THE ROOF AND THE POSTS, AND

12:17:36 THE ACTUAL PATIO HAD SCREENS ON IT AND SCREEN DOORS ON

12:17:39 THE FRONT AND SCREEN DOORS IN THE BACK.

12:17:43 AND NEVER ANY ISSUE OF ANY KIND OF ENCROACHMENT OR ANY

12:17:46 OTHER PROPERTY ESPECIALLY TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH

12:17:49 THAT WAS OF QUESTION AND WHERE THE VARIANCE WAS BEING

12:17:50 REQUESTED TO.

12:17:53 SO THERE WAS ALWAYS EASY ACCESS TO THE FRONT, BACK

12:17:56 PARTS OF THE YARD AND NEVER ANY ISSUE THERE.

12:18:03 THE HOMEOWNER, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, HAD THE PORCH BUILT.

12:18:05 IT MADE SENSE TO THEM.

12:18:09 PART OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE ASKED OF THEM WAS,

12:18:12 COULDN'T YOU HAVE BUILT THIS IN THE BACK YARD.

12:18:14 DID YOU HAVE TO DO IT ON THE SIDE.

12:18:20 AND PART OF THE ANSWER IS, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE STATE OF

12:18:23 FACTS AND THE CONCRETE WAS ALREADY THERE, IT JUST MADE

12:18:25 MORE SENSE TO DO IT HERE, OKAY.

12:18:33 AND FINANCIALLY, IT WAS MORE EFFECTIVE TO DO IT HERE.

12:18:42 THE HOMEOWNER OR MY MOTHER-IN-LAW I SHOULD SAY PROBABLY

12:18:45 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED OR SO WAS THAT,

12:18:48 YOU KNOW, HOW THE SUN RISES AND SETS.

12:18:50 THE SUN WILL SET IN HER BACK YARD.

12:18:56 SO THAT WOULD INCREASE THE HEAT AND ALL THIS FOR A

12:18:59 PORCH TO BE BUILT IN THE BACK YARD.

12:19:03 SO WHERE IT SITS NOW, IT FACED SOUTH.

12:19:06 SO REALLY THE PORCH WILL BE USABLE EITHER MORNING,

12:19:10 AFTERNOON OR AFTERNOON AND EVENING ANY TIME WITHOUT

12:19:18 HAVING TO EXPERIENCE TO EXPERIENCE THAT ADDITIONAL

12:19:21 HEAT.

12:19:30 SO -- GIVE ME ONE SECOND I APOLOGIZE.

12:19:37 MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IN THE HEARING SAID THE PURPOSES IS TO

12:19:42 HAVE BARBECUES AND I WOULD ADD ANY TYPE OF GATHERING

12:19:47 AND ANYTHING CAN BE DONE IN AN ENCLOSED AREA.

12:19:49 SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE

12:19:50 THAT DONE THERE.

12:19:57 THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT ADDING THE ROOF WOULDN'T BE

12:20:00 ABLE TO BUILD A BRAND-NEW ONE IN THE BACK.

12:20:07 THAT IS KIND OF A HARDSHIP TO THEM AT THIS POINT ALSO.

12:20:12 SO THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP.

12:20:20 THERE EXISTS BECAUSE WILL EXIST TO BRING IT DOWN SHOULD

12:20:25 THE BOARD OR COUNSEL DECIDE TO DENY THEIR REQUEST.

12:20:29 THE HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT

12:20:32 FROM THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

12:20:34 THIS IS THE SECOND QUESTION OF THE -- OR THE SECOND

12:20:37 VARIANCE ISSUE THAT THE HARDSHIP FOR PRACTICAL

12:20:41 DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT FROM THE APPLICANT AND

12:20:45 SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY SHOULD

12:20:47 NOT JUSTIFY A VARIANCE.

12:20:50 THE ANSWER TO THIS IS KIND OF SIMPLE, WHEN THEY DECIDED

12:20:52 TO DO THE WORK.

12:20:56 THEY HAD A HANDYMAN DO THE CONSTRUCTION AND THAT THE

12:21:00 POINT IT WAS RELIED -- IN MY UNDERSTANDING NO VARIANCE

12:21:03 AND NOTHING THAT WAS NEEDED BECAUSE IT WAS AN OPEN

12:21:07 PORCH WITH JUST SCREENS AND STUFF.

12:21:13 TO THEY RELIED ON THE HANDYMAN'S KNOWLEDGE OR EXPERTISE

12:21:20 AND WENT AHEAD HAND IT DONE.

12:21:23 NOT THAT OH, WE KNOW WE NEED THIS AND NOT GOING TO HAVE

12:21:25 IT PRESENTED PROPERLY.

12:21:29 THE THIRD THING IS THE VARIANCE IF GRANTED WILL NOT

12:21:33 SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR INJURY THE HEALTH, SAFETY

12:21:35 AND WELFARE OF OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WILL BE AFFECTED

12:21:39 BY ALLOWANCE OF A VARIANCE.

12:21:43 AGAIN, THEY THINK MEET THE HARDSHIPS ON THIS ALSO.

12:21:46 THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT INTERFERE, INJURY THE NEIGHBORS,

12:21:49 SPECIFICALLY THE HOUSE ON THE SIDE BECAUSE THERE IS A

12:21:50 FENCE.

12:21:54 THERE IS A -- THE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED A FOOT.

12:21:59 BUT REALLY ABOUT TWO FEET OR MAYBE ONE SPOT THAT MAY BE

12:22:02 A LITTLE BIT LESS FROM THE KIND OF CONSTRUCTION.

12:22:06 SO -- SO THE REQUEST WAS FOR A FOOT.

12:22:08 THERE IS ADEQUATE SPACE.

12:22:11 FOR THE CHASE, THERE IS A CHAIN-LINK FENCE AND FROM

12:22:15 THERE A SEVEN-FOOT POSITIONED VARIANCE TO THE NEXT

12:22:17 PROPERTY.

12:22:20 AND WOULDN'T CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL HARDSHIP ON ANY OF

12:22:26 THE NEIGHBORS.

12:22:31 IF YOU LISTEN TO THE VIDEO, THE NEIGHBOR SAID THAT

12:22:34 WATER RUNS OFF THE ROOF AND RUNS TOWARD THEIR PROPERTY.

12:22:41 THE WATER WOULD HAVE REALLY HAVE TO RUN PAST MY

12:22:44 MOTHER-IN-LAW'S PROPERTY TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTY.

12:22:46 THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN UP THERE FOR EASILY FOUR YEARS

12:22:50 AND NO COMPLAINTS.

12:22:55 NO NOTHING STATED THERE WOULD BE ANY ISSUE THERE IS AND

12:22:56 WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS.

12:22:58 NO COMPLAINTS OR REPORTS FILED.

12:23:04 BUT THE NEIGHBOR ALSO ALLUDED TO EROSION TO THEIR

12:23:07 FOUNDATION THAT WILL OCCUR IF THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED.

12:23:10 AGAIN THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN THERE FOR FOUR YEARS

12:23:13 ALREADY, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO DAMAGE TO THEIR

12:23:15 FOUNDATION.

12:23:19 THEY ARE LOOKING AT LEAST TEN FEET BEFORE IT WOULD EVEN

12:23:20 GET TO THEIR FOUNDATION.

12:23:25 SO, AGAIN, I AM NOT SEEING A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

12:23:30 AND AGAIN, NO REPORTS, YOU KNOW OR COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN

12:23:32 FILED TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.

12:23:37 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALLUDED ALSO TO NOISE ISSUE ON ALL

12:23:42 HOURS OF THE EVENING, AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE

12:23:47 -- SO MY STEPPARENTS IN THEIR 70S AND 80S, THEY DON'T

12:23:50 HAVE PARTIES LIKE THAT.

12:23:55 SO WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THAT

12:23:56 TOPIC EITHER.

12:23:59 THE NEIGHBOR ALSO ALLEGED THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PARKING

12:24:01 IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

12:24:04 AND BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE CONCRETE WAS ORIGINALLY

12:24:08 LAID, THE -- THE DRIVEWAY WAS WIDENED.

12:24:12 SO YOU CAN SEE WE CAN FIT TWO CARS COMFORTABLY NEXT TO

12:24:14 EACH OTHER AND THERE IS STILL ROOM IN THE BACK TO PARK

12:24:18 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES SO THERE WOULD BE NO REASON TO PARK

12:24:20 IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME.

12:24:25 AND THAT WAS, AGAIN -- THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY

12:24:28 COMPLAINTS FILED OR ANYTHING GIVEN TO US IN THAT FACT.

12:24:33 THE NUMBER FOUR, THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH AND

12:24:38 SERVES GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CHAPTER AND

12:24:41 THE ADOPTED TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

12:24:44 I DON'T HAVE ANY AN ANSWER ON THAT ONE.

12:24:45 IT IS JUST A RESIDENTIAL HOME.

12:24:49 IT IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE PLAN.

12:24:53 THE FIRST ONE SAYS, ALLOWING A VARIANCE WILL RESULT IN

12:24:57 SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING DONE, CONSIDERING BOTH PUBLIC

12:25:01 BENEFITS INTENDED TO BE SECURED BY THIS CHAPTER AND THE

12:25:03 INDIVIDUAL HARDSHIPS AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT

12:25:06 WILL BE SUFFERED DUE TO A FAILURE OF THE BOARD TO GRANT

12:25:07 A VARIANCE.

12:25:10 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, RUNNING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT

12:25:11 HARDSHIPS.

12:25:17 IT REALLY WOULD JUST NOT EFFECT ANY OTHER PROPERTY AND

12:25:23 DENYING IT WOULD BE MORE OF A COST ISSUE FOR THE

12:25:24 HOMEOWNER.

12:25:32 MY INLAWS THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES.

12:25:35 SO I WILL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

12:25:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:25:40 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:25:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN UNIQUE

12:25:42 SITUATION.

12:25:45 AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID SO MANY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA

12:25:48 AND THE CITY AND BEYOND.

12:25:50 THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.

12:25:53 AND I THINK THAT -- A LOT OF YOUR TIME HAS BEEN WASTED

12:25:57 BECAUSE THIS IS -- YOU ARE NOT -- IT IS NOT HURTING ANY

12:25:57 NEIGHBORS.

12:25:59 YOU MENTION NO LOUD MUSIC --

12:26:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY STATEMENTS

12:26:04 REGARDING --

12:26:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

12:26:11 >> FROM WHAT YOU SAID, NO PARTIES OR

12:26:12 MUSIC.

12:26:15 THEY ARE ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS.

12:26:19 YOU KNOW, THIS IS A -- A CARPORT.

12:26:23 YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT WITH HOW THE SUN RISES AND

12:26:23 SETS.

12:26:25 WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU PUT IT.

12:26:27 WHERE WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE TO PUT IT --

12:26:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, I WILL INTERRUPT ONE MORE

12:26:32 TIME.

12:26:34 BEFORE YOU WEIGH YOUR EVIDENCE --

12:26:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY HERE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS

12:26:37 ITEM.

12:26:39 OH, WE DO?

12:26:43 BEFORE WE SPEAK, LET'S HEAR THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS.

12:26:47 AND LET ME -- BEFORE THESE TWO LADIES COME UP, ITEM 63,

12:26:52 WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT UNTIL AFTER --

12:26:54 UNTIL AFTER 1:30.

12:26:56 I AM VERY SORRY.

12:26:58 OUR AGENDA A VERY PACKED.

12:27:03 MY SINCERE APOLOGY.

12:27:06 >>LUIS VIERA: I TELL YOU WHAT, I WILL SPEAK TO YOU

12:27:08 OUTSIDE.

12:27:15 >> MY NAME IS KATHERINE JONES, AND I LIVE IN THE HOUSE

12:27:16 SOUTH.

12:27:18 AS FAR AS THEM BUILDING ON, THEY BUILT THAT -- THEY

12:27:22 CLOSED IN THEIR CARPORT AREA WHERE THAT WINDOW WAS AND

12:27:24 MADE AN APARTMENT.

12:27:27 AND THEY ARE RENTING THAT OUT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ALL

12:27:28 THE TIME.

12:27:32 THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE -- WHEN THEY ARE RENTING IS

12:27:33 THE PROBLEM.

12:27:36 THEY MAKE NOISE ALL NIGHT LONG, NOT JUST EVENING

12:27:38 PARTIES.

12:27:40 THEY ARE DOING IT ALL NIGHT LONG.

12:27:43 SOMEBODY COME AND KNOCK ON THAT DOOR -- SIDE DOOR.

12:27:46 MY BEDROOM IS RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT.

12:27:48 AND NATURALLY THIS WAKES ME UP.

12:27:51 AND THAT THEIR ROOF THAT THEY PUT ON, THEY PUT IT A

12:27:56 FOOT AWAY FROM MY FENCE, BUT THEY WERE TYING THINGS TO

12:28:03 MY FENCE TO HOLD THE ROOF -- THEIR SIDE -- ON THEIR

12:28:11 CARPORT -- THEIR WALL -- LIKE, WOOD WALL AND SCREEN.

12:28:14 THEY WERE -- TYING IT ON MY FENCE AND CAUSING MY FENCE

12:28:15 TO SAG.

12:28:18 AND IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE BARBECUES OUT THERE ON

12:28:21 THAT PATIO, THAT IS JUST WOOD.

12:28:23 WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ABOUT FIRES?

12:28:26 MY HOUSE IS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT A SPARK OR WHATEVER THEY

12:28:30 ARE DOING, IF THEIRS CATCHES ON FIRE, MINE IS GOING TO

12:28:32 PROBABLY CATCH ON FIRE TOO.

12:28:34 DO I NEED TO STAY THERE AND WATCH IT ALL THE TIME TO

12:28:38 MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN?

12:28:42 OR HOW AM I GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT?

12:28:44 I DON'T KNOW.

12:28:47 THIS IS -- AND AS FAR AS THE SUN SETTING.

12:28:50 THE SUN DOESN'T SET ON SOUTH IN THE NORTH.

12:28:52 IT SETS ON THE EAST AND THE WEST.

12:28:55 IT COMES UP IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSES, GOES DOWN IN THE

12:28:56 FRONT OF THE HOUSES.

12:29:00 SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR HEAT FROM THE SUN GOING

12:29:03 DOWN IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

12:29:12 WHERE THE -- I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW HOW I AM

12:29:24 GOING TO -- THIS -- THE HOUSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ZONED A

12:29:28 ONE-FAMILY HOUSE, SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE PERMITTED TO

12:29:30 RENT THIS OUT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

12:29:35 IT SHOULD BE -- AS FAR AS THE PARKING, SURE, THEY

12:29:39 POURED IN CEMENT, ABOUT A FOOT FROM MY LINE, WHICH I

12:29:43 DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, BUT THEN YOU GOT ALL THESE

12:29:46 PEOPLE THAT IS RENTING THIS AND THEIR TWO CARS.

12:29:50 WELL, YOU GOT AS MANY AS FIVE AND SIX CAR THERE IS

12:29:51 OCCASIONALLY.

12:29:54 AND THE FIRST THING THEY WANT TO DO, THEY WANT TO PARK

12:30:00 IN MY YARD UP IN THE FRONT OF MY YARD.

12:30:03 I JUST CAN'T -- IT IS GETTING TO BE TOO MUCH TO HANDLE

12:30:07 WITH EVERYTHING THEY ARE TRYING TO DO TO THE HOUSE.

12:30:11 IF THEY PUT THE THING THIS BACK, AT LEAST THAT WILL

12:30:13 OPEN UP THAT SIDE WHERE THEY WOULDN'T BE BARBECUING

12:30:19 MAYBE THERE AND CAUSE A FIRE.

12:30:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU MA'AM.

12:30:22 WE APPRECIATE IT, MADAM.

12:30:26 NEXT, PLEASE.

12:30:28 >> WE NEVER SAID IT WAS THEM MAKING THE NOISE --

12:30:30 >> STATE YOUR NAME.

12:30:31 >> DORIS JONES.

12:30:33 WE NEVER SAID IT WAS THEM MAKING THE NOISE.

12:30:38 THE PEOPLE THAT THEY KEEP RENTING THE APARTMENT OUT TO.

12:30:41 THEY -- UP UNTIL THE LAST TIME THE LAST MEETING -- WE

12:30:43 WERE AT THIS ONE TOO.

12:30:45 SOMEONE HAD BEEN PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.

12:30:49 PEOPLE EVERY NIGHT WILL PARK IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.

12:30:51 WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

12:30:54 AND WE WATCH AND THEY WOULD GET OUT AND GO UP THERE.

12:30:59 WELL, JUST THE OTHER DAY, THERE WAS A DELIVERY FOR

12:31:00 10501.

12:31:03 WE ARE 10409.

12:31:04 AND THEY -- THEY WENT TO THAT DOOR.

12:31:08 THEY WENT TO THE RIGHT HOUSE, BUT THEY TOLD THEM, NO,

12:31:10 THAT IS NEXT DOOR.

12:31:14 THE DELIVERY GUY COMES OVER TO OUR DOOR -- WE HAVE GOT

12:31:17 OUR NUMBER 10409.

12:31:21 AND HE ASKED US -- AND WE WANTS TO KNOW IF AUSTIN LIVES

12:31:22 HERE.

12:31:24 NO, AUSTIN DON'T LIVE IN OUR HOUSE.

12:31:27 HE WANTS 10501.

12:31:29 WHERE IS THAT -- NEXT DOOR.

12:31:34 THEY HAVE A LITTLE APARTMENT RIGHT TO THEIR FRONT DOOR.

12:31:36 IT IS THE NEXT DOOR.

12:31:43 AND THERE ARE PEOPLE -- THE RENTERS -- THEY DO HAVE

12:31:47 PEOPLE COME AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT KNOCKING ON THAT

12:31:47 DOOR.

12:31:51 AND THEY COME AND THEY BLOW THE HORNS AND THEY COME AND

12:31:56 THEY -- SOMETIMES THEY GO OUT AT NIGHT AND GO DOWN TO

12:32:01 THE ROAD AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND COME RIGHT BACK UP.

12:32:04 AND WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO GET SOME SLEEP AT NIGHT, IT

12:32:07 DOESN'T HELP ANY.

12:32:08 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

12:32:10 ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

12:32:11 OKAY.

12:32:15 ANY REBUTTAL?

12:32:19 AND WE'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF MINUTES SO LET'S --

12:32:20 >> I UNDERSTAND.

12:32:23 I DID SPEAK TO MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.

12:32:26 AND YESTERDAY SHE TOLD ME THAT THE SUN SETS IN THE

12:32:26 BACK.

12:32:30 APPARENTLY IT DOES SET IN THE FRONT.

12:32:33 SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

12:32:36 THE -- THE NOISES THEY ARE HEARING.

12:32:38 THE PEOPLE THAT IS COME SOMETHING NOT COMING FROM THEIR

12:32:39 PROPERTY.

12:32:40 IT IS COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

12:32:44 IF THEY FEEL IT IS COMING FROM THERE, THERE ARE OTHER

12:32:48 RECOURSES THEY CAN USE TO THEIR AVAILABILITY TO ADDRESS

12:32:49 THOSE.

12:32:52 THAT IS NOT FOR THE PORCH.

12:32:54 ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR TO PUT A PORCH.

12:32:57 THAT WILL NOT INCREASE NOISE.

12:32:59 IT IS NOT GOING TO DECREASE NOISE.

12:33:01 IT WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THEIR PROPERTY

12:33:03 WHATSOEVER OR ANYTHING.

12:33:07 AS FAR AS THE -- YOU KNOW, I -- OKAY.

12:33:11 SO ANYWAY, I KNOW A COUPLE OF MINUTES BUT I WANTED IN

12:33:19 CONCLUDING, YOU KNOW, WE DID COVER THE ISSUES OF WHAT

12:33:23 WOULD DEMONSTRATE THE HARDSHIPS AND, YOU KNOW, THE AGE

12:33:27 OF MY INLAWS SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

12:33:30 THEY ARE 70S AND 80.

12:33:33 AND THEY ARE ON FIXED INCOME.

12:33:35 REMOVING THAT WILL COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY.

12:33:38 THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RECONSTRUCT IT IN THE BACK OR

12:33:40 ANY OTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY.

12:33:47 BECAUSE THE FUNDS WOULD JUST NOT BE AVAILABLE.

12:33:54 THE -- AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE TO

12:33:57 RECONSTRUCT IT THEY WOULD HAVE TO START CLEARING

12:34:00 GROUNDS, PUTTING SLABS AND BUILDING ON TOP, PUTTING

12:34:05 ROOFS, AN PUTTING SOME KIND OF AN EXTERIOR WALLS, AND

12:34:09 THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED TO WHERE IT JUST NEEDS

12:34:10 TO BE SCREENED IN.

12:34:14 SO REALLY ALL WE ARE ASKING IS FOR THE APPROVAL TO BE

12:34:16 ABLE TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS.

12:34:19 AND, AGAIN, WE FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, IF

12:34:22 THEY FEEL THAT STRONGLY.

12:34:26 IF YOU WATCH THE TAPE, YOU WILL HEAR -- THEY HAVE

12:34:31 ISSUES AND TAKEN CARE OF THINGS IN THEIR YARD, BUT --

12:34:34 AND MY MOTHER-IN-LAW DOESN'T AGREE WITH STUFF.

12:34:36 DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE ISSUES THEMSELVES.

12:34:40 I AM JUST TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF WHAT THE IS

12:34:42 REQUIRING FOR AN APPROVAL OF THIS TYPE.

12:34:45 AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE MET ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIANCE

12:34:50 HARDSHIPS TO APPROVE AND WOULD URGE THAT YOU APPROVE

12:34:50 IT.

12:34:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.

12:34:54 ANY QUESTION FROM COUNCIL?

12:34:56 AND IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:34:58 REALLY QUICK BECAUSE ONLY A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

12:35:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE GONE GOING TO SAY IN REFERENCE

12:35:02 TO THE TIME.

12:35:03 WE ARE ALREADY OVER ALREADY.

12:35:06 SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY OVER

12:35:08 RIGHT NOW.

12:35:12 >> THE PROBLEM IN BACK AT 1:30, WE WILL HAVE OUR 1:30

12:35:16 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING AND 63.

12:35:19 THIS IS -- CAN WE DECIDE THIS IN THE NEXT THREE

12:35:20 MINUTES?

12:35:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU FRANKLY

12:35:27 UNDER TIME PRESSURE, YOU MAY NOT GET THE COMPETENT

12:35:31 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO THE DEGREE YOU NEED.

12:35:34 IF SOMEBODY DOES CHALLENGE THAT ON THIS BASIS.

12:35:37 >>LUIS VIERA: UNDERSTOOD..

12:35:37 LET'S DO THIS.

12:35:44 CAN WE RETURN HERE AT 1:15?

12:35:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE TO GO TO THE NORTH SIDE OF

12:35:46 TOWN.

12:35:49 >>LUIS VIERA: FOUR OF US COME BACK AT 1:15.

12:35:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN BE HERE BUT NOT AT THAT HOUR.

12:35:54 >>LUIS VIERA: WHERE IS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

12:35:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE WILL BE BACK.

12:35:59 FOR THE AFTERNOON.

12:36:01 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN HE BE BACK AT 1:30?

12:36:03 >> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE HEARD ALL THE

12:36:04 EVIDENCE IN THE CASE.

12:36:07 YOU HEARD THE REBUTTAL AND THE TESTIMONY OF THE PUBLIC.

12:36:12 I WOULD ASK RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU ADDRESS THIS ITEM AND

12:36:15 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE MET THE HARDSHIP

12:36:18 CRITERIA IN CHAPTER 27.

12:36:19 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:36:20 HOW ABOUT YOU DO YOUR QUESTIONS.

12:36:22 CAN YOU DO THAT?

12:36:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN A MINUTE OR

12:36:25 SO.

12:36:27 I HAVE GOT SOME QUESTIONS.

12:36:30 WANT TO HEAR FROM THE MOTHER AND MAKE SURE SHE HAS BEEN

12:36:32 SWORN IN AND I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T THINK THAT

12:36:34 THE SON HAS BEEN ANSWERING.

12:36:37 LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO -- WHO CAME UP WITH

12:36:41 THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY.VIERA WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

12:36:44 TO DO AT 1:15 P.M. AND HAVE FOUR MEMBERS.

12:36:46 AND TRY OUR BEST LEGALLY.

12:36:50 CAN WE DO THIS WITH FOUR MEMBERS?

12:36:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS THEY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE AS

12:36:56 A MATTER OF RIGHT.

12:36:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ALWAYS RESPECT YOUR LEADERSHIP, BUT

12:37:00 1:15 --

12:37:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I RESPECT THE FACT THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES

12:37:03 HAS MORE QUESTIONS.

12:37:08 I DON'T WANT TO -- I NEVER LIKE TO CUT COUNCILMEMBERS

12:37:09 CUT ON SUBSTANCE.

12:37:14 COME BACK HERE AT 1:20 SHARP.

12:37:16 AND I KNOW SOME OF US CAN'T MAKE IT.

12:37:17 I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

12:37:20 THIS IS UNFORESEEABLE TO MEET THE 1:30.

12:37:23 THE PROBLEM IS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH R

12:37:24 63.

12:37:28 BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN HOPE THEM GET THEM BOTH IN THE 16

12:37:30 OR SO MINUTES.

12:37:32 WE WILL TRY OUR HARDEST.

12:37:32 MA'AM.

12:37:35 WHAT TIME -- WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:20.

12:37:36 COUNCILMEMBERS.

12:37:38 LET'S BE BACK HERE PROMPTLY.

12:37:42 THE FOUR OF US AT 1:20 TO GET THIS THING DONE.

[Recess]

13:21:46 THANK YOU

13:21:49 >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.

13:21:52 AND TO GET A MOVE ON WITH THESE TWO HEARS.

13:21:57 SO LET'S BEGIN.

13:21:59 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

13:22:01 YOU SAID YOU HAD A FEW QUESTIONS, SIR.

13:22:12 PREGUNTAS.

13:22:14 [INAUDIBLE]

13:22:17 >> I WORN IN THIS MORNING, YES.

13:22:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS ASKING HOW LONG HAVE THEY OWNED

13:22:24 THAT HOME.

13:22:30 HOW LONG HAS THAT EXTENSION -- WAS THAT RECENTLY OR HOW

13:22:35 LONG HAS THAT BEEN ERECTED?

13:23:13 [SPEAKING THROUGH INTERPRETER]

13:23:16 >> AT THAT -- I PURCHASED THE HOME IN 1976.

13:23:25 AND IN 1992192, I CLOSED IN THE CARPORT.

13:23:33 WHAT ELSE DID HE ASK ME?

13:23:40 >> THE ROOF.

13:23:45 WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

13:23:48 HOLD ON.

13:23:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE EXTENSION ROOF, THE PILLARS THAT

13:23:55 YOU HAVE SCREENED IN?

13:24:01 >> YES.

13:24:04 ABOUT THREE YEARS, THREE, FOUR YEARS.

13:24:10 >> AROUND FOUR, FOUR, THREE, FOUR, THREE, FOUR YEARS.

13:24:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, MY LAST QUESTION LISTENING TO

13:24:18 THE OTHER RESIDENTS AND THEIR COMPLAINTS, THIS IS THIS

13:24:24 A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING BECAUSE A RENTER PROPERTY.

13:24:38 THEY MADE MENTION OF RENTERS ON THE PROPERTY.

13:24:40 >> NO.

13:24:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO MEANING WHAT?

13:25:00 >> NO -- [SPEAKING THROUGH INTERPRETER]

13:25:04 >> NO, NO, I HAVE THIS GUY -- A KID.

13:25:05 HE IS A STUDENT.

13:25:10 HE IS THERE LIVING TEMPORARILY BUT HE IS NOT RENTING.

13:25:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE HOUSE.

13:25:17 IS IT A FAMILY RESIDENCE HOUSE AND IS THERE AN

13:25:21 EXTENSION TOWARD SOMEONE LIVING THERE OR A FAMILY

13:25:25 RESIDENCE HOUSE.

13:25:29 [SPEAKING THROUGH INTERPRETER]

13:25:30 >> IT IS A RESIDENCE.

13:25:34 YEAH, A RESIDENTIAL HOME, SINGLE, SINGLE.

13:25:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD,

13:25:44 COUNCILMEN, WITH REGARD TO WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY, I

13:25:48 ASK THAT YOU LOOK SPECIFICALLY TO THE CARPORT AND

13:25:52 SPECIFICALLY YOU ARE ABLE TO JUDGE THE CREDIBILITY AND

13:25:56 WEIGH THE CREDIBILITY OF WITNESSES, ONE OF THE RULES --

13:26:01 ONE OF THE ROLES YOU DO PLAY, BUT ALSO REMIND YOU THAT

13:26:03 ULTIMATELY THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC REQUEST

13:26:06 AND THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA.

13:26:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE MY ANSWERS, THANK YOU.

13:26:13 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:26:16 GRACIAS, SENORA.

13:26:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:26:21 TO THE APPLICANT, NOTHING ELSE?

13:26:28 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING IF I CAN.

13:26:36 THE -- I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE -- THE SON --

13:26:38 SUN HITS THE HOUSE FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE NOT --

13:26:43 YOU KNOW, THE SUN COMES UP ALL MORNING LONG ON THE

13:26:51 FRONT OF THE HOUSE, NOT THE BACK.

13:27:03 AND ALL OF THIS COMPLAINTS ARE NOT TRUE.

13:27:15 AND IT ALL COMES ABOUT BECAUSE I CUT SOME OF HER -- ON

13:27:15 THE SIDE.

13:27:26 I CUT IT SOME OF HER GRASS -- HER -- HER FLOWERS OR --

13:27:40 I DON'T KNOW.

13:27:42 >> IT WAS -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT, YOU KNOW,

13:27:47 THEY WEREN'T FLOWERS BUT LIKE PLANTS THERE.

13:27:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MAN.

13:27:51 >> GRACIAS.

13:27:53 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CLOSE.

13:27:55 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

13:28:01 SECOND BY GUDES.

13:28:05 IT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

13:28:09 >> WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ISSUE IN QUESTION IS THE

13:28:11 CARPORT ON THE SIDE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT

13:28:12 HERE.

13:28:17 AND I THINK HARDSHIP HAS BEEN -- HAS BEEN CLEARLY

13:28:23 DESCRIBED WITH THE TESTIMONY OR THE COMMENTS FROM THE

13:28:24 GENTLEMAN ORIGINALLY.

13:28:27 HE WENT SECTION 27-80.

13:28:29 AS I MENTIONED, WE SEE A LOT OF THIS THROUGHOUT THE

13:28:33 CITY OF TAMPA AND AN UNIQUE SITUATION.

13:28:36 WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT CARPORT THERE AND MAKE THE

13:28:41 MOTION TO OVERTURN THE VRB -- APPROVE THE SIDE YARD

13:28:44 VARIANT FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE FEET -- TO FUN FOOT, TO

13:28:48 RETAIN AN EXISTING ON SCREEN PATIO BECAUSE DEMONSTRATED

13:28:52 THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN

13:28:57 SECTION 27.8.

13:28:59 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

13:29:01 I WILL YIELD FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE VOTE AND SECOND

13:29:02 IT.

13:29:04 AND I GUESS YIELD BACK.

13:29:06 ALL IN FAVOR.

13:29:07 AYE.

13:29:09 ANY OPPOSED?

13:29:14 >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH DINGFELDER AND CITRO BEING

13:29:24 ABSENT FOR VOTE.

13:29:28 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MOMENT?

13:29:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT A QUASI EYE JUDICIAL MEETING ONLY

13:29:35 FOUR --

13:29:41 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE COUNCILMAN CITRO.

13:29:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO OVERTURN THE VRB AND FAILED WITH

13:29:52 MYSELF OWE.

13:29:55 AND THE REST OPPOSING IT.

13:29:56 AND IF YOU CAN --

13:30:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS WELLS, IF I CAN, FOR PURPOSES ON

13:30:02 THE RECORD ON THIS.

13:30:04 WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO TAKE AT THIS

13:30:12 POINT BEING HOW COUNCILMAN CITRO REENTERED THE ROOM AND

13:30:18 WAS NOT PRESENT FOR THE DISCUSSION.

13:30:21 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE REDO THE MOTION.

13:30:26 WE VOTE WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO TAKING PART.

13:30:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY ONLY CONCERN IS HE WAS ABSENT FOR

13:30:32 THE TESTIMONY.

13:30:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I ASK HOW MUCH TESTIMONY IN THE 14

13:30:36 MINUTES.

13:30:40 WAS IT ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I WAS HERE EARLIER.

13:30:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE MISSED NINE MINUTES APART.

13:30:45 >>CLERK: COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD QUESTION OF THE

13:30:49 APPLICANT WITH THE NATURE OF THE USE OF THE HOME, AND

13:30:55 HOW LONG THE CARPORT -- HOW LONG THEY OWNED THE HOME

13:30:58 AND HOW LONG THE CARPORT BEEN INSTALLED IN ITS CURRENT

13:31:01 CONDITION.

13:31:05 AND THAT WAS GENERALLY IT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT

13:31:08 TESTIMONY AGAIN IF YOU FEEL IT IS RELEVANT TO THE

13:31:12 CRITERIA IS SECTION 27-80.

13:31:15 OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT

13:31:18 EVIDENT AND GENERALLY THE NATURE OF THE TESTIMONY

13:31:21 ELICITED FROM THE APPLICANT.

13:31:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BASED ON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL

13:31:27 EVIDENCE EARLIER I FEEL THAT I CAN MAKE.

13:31:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.

13:31:32 LET ME SAY THIS WITH THE PURPOSE OF COUNCIL'S RULES.

13:31:34 WHEN A MOTION FAILS TO RECEIVE FOUR VOTES, MOTION FAILS

13:31:38 AND IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, THE PUBLIC

13:31:41 HEARING WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO

13:31:44 A TIME CERTAIN AT THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED COUNCIL

13:31:49 MEETING BUT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CITRO CAME IN.

13:31:52 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S MOVE THIS.

13:31:57 ANOTHER MOTION THAT THE COUNCILMEMBER CAN MAKE.

13:31:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEREFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO

13:32:02 OVERTURN THE VR B'S DECISION AND APPROVE THE SIDE I

13:32:04 CAN'T REMEMBER THE FROM SEVEN FEET TO ONE VOTE TO

13:32:07 RETAIN AN EXISTING COVERED OR SCREEN PATIO BECAUSE THE

13:32:10 PETITIONER HAS DEMONSTRATED THE QUESTION MEETS THE

13:32:15 HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND WE HEARD THAT FROM THE GENTLEMAN

13:32:20 OF THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND PLED HIS FACE.

13:32:22 >> I YIELD TO SECOND THAT AND YIELD BACK.

13:32:26 ALL IN FAVOR OF MANISCALCO'S MOTION.

13:32:32 ANY OPPOSED?

13:32:37 [INAUDIBLE]

13:32:43 >> GUDES, CITRO AND CARLSON MIRANDA VOTING NO.

13:32:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MANY VOTED YES.

13:32:48 >>LUIS VIERA: THE MOTION DID NOT CARRY.

13:32:51 A SUBSTITUTE OR ADDITIONAL MOTION THAT SOMEBODY WOULD

13:32:52 LIKE TO MAKE.

13:32:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPROVE THE VRB'S DECISION TO

13:33:01 DENY THE APPLICANT'S PETITION FOR SEVEN FEET AND RETAIN

13:33:04 THE PETITIONER HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT PETITION

13:33:09 MEETS HARDSHIP CRITERIA SET FORTH IN 27 A.

13:33:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

13:33:13 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND

13:33:16 SECONDED FIRST BY COUNCILMAN CITRO IMMEDIATELY

13:33:20 AFTERWARDS BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

13:33:21 ALL IN FAVOR.

13:33:27 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH MANISCALCO AND VIERA

13:33:28 VOTING NO.

13:33:31 >>> NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM AND GO BACK TO

13:33:33 STEP TO 63.

13:33:37 NOW MISS WELLS, IT ANYONE HERE FOR OUR 1:30?

13:33:39 OKAY, BECAUSE I ADVISED THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE

13:33:41 WOULD BE ABOUT TEN MINUTES OR SO LATE.

13:33:47 I KNOW OUR INTERPRETER NEEDS TO LEAVE HERE.

13:33:52 SO WE WILL -- MISS WELLS, IS YOUR COUNSEL IN THAT

13:33:53 REGARD, MA'AM?

13:33:57 >> I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH ITEM 63.

13:33:58 VIERA VEER LET'S DO IT.

13:34:03 AND COUNCILMEMBERS, MAKE ALL ROBUST INQUIRIES BUT ONLY

13:34:05 THOSE THAT ARE NECESSARY AS ALWAYS.

13:34:08 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

13:34:09 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD AFTERNOON.

13:34:11 CATE WELLS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

13:34:15 I PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED THE HEARING PROCEDURES.

13:34:18 THE SAME PROCEDURES APPLY IN THIS MATTER THAN APPLIED

13:34:19 IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

13:34:23 THE STANDARD OF REVIEW IS DE NOVO WHICH MEANS THAT THE

13:34:27 COUNCIL SITS AT THE SAME SHOES OR SEATS AS THE VARIANCE

13:34:31 REVIEW BOARD AND DECIDE BASED THE APPLICANT ON THE

13:34:36 RECORD OF TODAY'S HEARING HAVE MET THEIR PROOF 27-80.

13:34:41 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY

13:34:45 FOR A REVIEW OF THE VRB HEARING AND SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR

13:34:46 YOUR CONSIDERATION.

13:34:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

13:34:55 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY, PLANNING DESIGN

13:34:55 AND COORDINATION.

13:35:00 I HAVE BEEN WORN IN.

13:35:04 17-156 AND 290.

13:35:10 APPLICANT SEEKING TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FROM

13:35:11 20 FEET TO THREE FEET.

13:35:16 WE HAVE A SITE PLAN FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

13:35:17 THIS THE FRONT YARD.

13:35:19 THIS IS THE CORNER YARD.

13:35:21 REAR YARD, SIDE YARD.

13:35:24 THE REAR YARD WAS GOING TO BE REDUCED OR REQUESTED TO

13:35:28 BE REDUCED BECAUSE OF THIS SPACE HERE FROM 20 FEET TO

13:35:30 THREE FEET.

13:35:34 THE SIDE YARD WAS BEING REQUESTED TO BE REDUCED FROM

13:35:37 SEVEN FEET TO ZERO FEET.

13:35:39 THE APPLICANT DID CHANGE HIS REQUEST AT THE HEARING TO

13:35:42 BE SEVEN FEET TO 18 INCHES.

13:35:45 1.5 FEET.

13:35:53 THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST WAS TO REDUCE THE SEPARATION OF

13:36:02 THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FROM FIVE FEET EAVE TO EAVE TO

13:36:05 ZERO THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND AGREED TO DO THAT FOR

13:36:05 THIS HEARING.

13:36:12 THE REVIEW IS FOR THE FIRST ITEMS DISCUSSED.

13:36:17 I HAVE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM

13:36:21 OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

13:36:23 >>LUIS VIERA: APPRECIATE IT.

13:36:24 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

13:36:25 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:36:28 THE BUILDING LOOK LIKE COCK-EYED ON THE PROPERTY.

13:36:39 WAS THIS TOTAL BUILDING LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

13:36:42 WAS ALL PERMITTING DONE ON THE BUILDING AT THE TIME IT

13:36:43 WAS CONSTRUCTED?

13:36:47 >> THE ADDITION AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND IS A CODE

13:36:51 VIOLATION AND DIDN'T HAVE PERMITS.

13:36:55 >> IT WAS BUILT -- I AM RELAYING WHAT YOU JUST SAID

13:36:57 BUILT WITHOUT PERMITS?

13:36:57 >> YES.

13:36:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HIGH LAST QUESTION AND I WILL BE

13:37:01 QUICK, CHAIR.

13:37:07 AS I WAS TRYING TO ALLUDE TO IN A PRIOR, IF INSPECTION

13:37:15 WENT ON RIGHT NOW, WOULD THIS ADDITION BE CERTIFIED AS,

13:37:20 OF COURSE, BEING SAFE AND MEETING ALL REQUIREMENTS?

13:37:24 >> I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE CONSTRUCTIONAL INTEGRITY OF

13:37:26 THE STRUCTURE.

13:37:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

13:37:32 >>LUIS VIERA: APPLICANT?

13:37:36 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBERS FOR THE

13:37:37 COMMUNITY.

13:37:42 MY NAME IS MISS ALVAREZ AND HERE IN REPRESENTATION AND

13:37:44 TRANSLATE FOR HIM.

13:37:47 I WILL GO AHEAD AND I AM VERY AWARE OF THE WHOLE THING

13:37:53 AND WILL DO A PRESENTATION.

13:38:01 THIS IS -- CAN YOU -- I AM DOING A --

13:38:05 >>LUIS VIERA: DO YOU HAVE THE DVD OF THE VRB HEARING?

13:38:09 >> YES.

13:38:12 HOW DO I -- THIS IS OUR BIGGER PICTURE OF THE SITE

13:38:14 PLAN.

13:38:19 THIS IS WHAT --

13:38:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR GIVE ME, THIS IS MY OVERSIGHT.

13:38:27 I NEGLECTED TO ASK FOR THE DVDS TO BE PUT INTO THE

13:38:27 RECORD.

13:38:28 >> THEY ARE HERE.

13:38:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

13:38:34 AND MADAM CLERK, I APOLOGIZE AGAIN.

13:38:34 >> SORRY.

13:38:36 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

13:38:42 WHAT IS ACTUALLY THIS AREA HERE IS WHERE HE HAS PART OF

13:38:45 THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN WITHOUT A PERMIT.

13:38:50 AND WHEN WE ASKED HIM IS BASICALLY A VARIANCE TO REDUCE

13:38:57 THE SETBACK FROM THIS AREA HERE AND THE SIDE OF THE

13:38:59 PROPERTY.

13:39:03 WE HAVE -- WE ACTUALLY REMOVED ONE OF THE -- STRUCTURE

13:39:11 THAT'S WAS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE AGREED TO REMOVE.

13:39:14 IT IS RIGHT HERE.

13:39:19 I DON'T KNOW IF I AM DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.

13:39:20 OKAY.

13:39:23 THAT IS WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS THAT WAS ALREADY BEING

13:39:24 REMOVED.

13:39:26 EVERYBODY HAS BEEN CLEANED UP AND EVERYTHING.

13:39:30 AND THIS IS -- THIS IS THE PART OF HOW IT LOOKS LIKE.

13:39:35 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE -- IF WE WERE ASKING ACTUALLY FOR

13:39:38 THREE FEET -- FRONT OR BACK -- I AM SORRY.

13:39:41 WE WERE ASKING FOR THREE FEET, BUT ACTUALLY WE HAVE A

13:39:42 LITTLE MORE.

13:39:46 WE HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR FEET FROM THE STRUCTURE TO THE

13:39:51 FENCE.

13:39:54 I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PASS ON THE PICTURE AND MIGHT BE

13:39:56 ABLE TO SEE.

13:40:03 THIS IS HOW THE -- THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS ALL

13:40:18 BEING CLEANED UP.

13:40:20 >> THERE YOU GO.

13:40:23 THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A SIDE WALL AROUND THE PROPERTY.

13:40:30 AND IT IS ABOUT FOUR FEET FROM THE FENCE.

13:40:33 AND ALSO TO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION -- THE

13:40:38 PREVIOUS QUESTION YOU ASK ABOUT THE -- WE ALREADY -- WE

13:40:39 HAVE AN ENGINEER.

13:40:42 WE CALL AN ENGINEER AND WENT THROUGH THE PROPERTY, AND

13:40:44 HE -- HE ALREADY.

13:40:47 IT IS NOT CONFIRMED AND HAS TO GO TO THE PERMITTING

13:40:51 PROCESS, AND CONFIRM THAT THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN WELL

13:40:56 BUILT AND HAVE NO PROBLEMS GOING THROUGH PERMITTING AND

13:41:00 IF WE CAN BRING THIS VARIANCE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH

13:41:04 PERMITTING.

13:41:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

13:41:08 ANYTHING ELSE.

13:41:09 >> YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

13:41:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?

13:41:14 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

13:41:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. SHARE.

13:41:19 IN THIS PHOTO APPEARS TO BE TWO USES.

13:41:19 TWO BUILDINGS.

13:41:22 ARE BOTH OF THOSE SET BUILDINGS THE ADDITION THAT WAS

13:41:26 DONE WITHOUT PERMITTING?

13:41:26 >> NO.

13:41:30 THIS AREA -- AS YOU SEE THIS SITE PLAN, THIS IS THE

13:41:30 AREA.

13:41:33 >> ALL THE SAME BUILDING.

13:41:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

13:41:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

13:41:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

13:41:42 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HEAR TO COMMENT ON ITEM 63.

13:41:44 IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD.

13:41:47 MA'AM, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

13:41:51 >> I HAVE LETTERS FROM ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS, A LOT OF

13:41:52 THE NEIGHBORS.

13:41:52 ALL IN FAVOR.

13:41:55 THE CLOSE NEIGHBORS IN HERE.

13:41:59 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU DON'T MIND SO WE CAN SEE THAT.

13:42:01 ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM, BEFORE WE CLOSE.

13:42:04 MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

13:42:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.

13:42:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

13:42:13 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.

13:42:24 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

13:42:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE IS NO PLEASURE IN DOING

13:42:29 THESE.

13:42:31 >> NO, THERE IS NOT.

13:42:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

13:42:38 THAT THIS WHOLE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL

13:42:43 BOARD HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED TO COLLECT BECAUSE WHEN YOU

13:42:48 BUILD AN R 1 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOT AND CONTINUE TO

13:42:49 EXPAND.

13:42:52 THERE ARE NO TAX COLLECTION ON NONE OF IT.

13:42:56 WHEN DO YOU THAT, AND YOU DON'T PAY FEDERAL INCOME TAX,

13:42:59 YOU DON'T PAY ANYTHING AND I AM -- I AM TALKING ABOUT

13:43:01 ALL OF THEM.

13:43:04 IT PUTS THE JEOPARDY OF THE COST ON THOSE WHO ARE

13:43:05 PAYING THE TAXES.

13:43:10 SO THAT IS ANOTHER DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE, NOT ONLY FOR

13:43:12 THESE PEOPLE HERE BUT THE THOUSANDS OF THEM.

13:43:16 I WILL SAY THOUSANDS -- THOUSANDS THAT HAVE DONE IT

13:43:19 WITH OR WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE THAT CREATED SOMEONE ELSE

13:43:21 PAYING SOMEONE ELSE'S FAIR SHARE.

13:43:24 THAT IS A ANOTHER QUESTION THAT HAS NEVER BEEN

13:43:26 ANSWERED.

13:43:31 WHEN YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT, AND -- AND THERE ARE

13:43:34 AREAS OF THIS CITY THAT HAVE MANY, MANY MORE THAN

13:43:34 OTHERS.

13:43:37 SOME HAVE VERY LITTLE TO NONE.

13:43:39 AND SOME HAVE THOUSANDS OF THEM.

13:43:40 AND THIS IS A PROBLEM.

13:43:44 AND THIS ADMINISTRATION FROM WHAT I SEE IS MOVING

13:43:47 FORWARD TO CORRECT THESE THINGS.

13:43:51 BY CHANGING SOME AREAS OF WHO IS IN CHARGE OF WHAT AND

13:43:54 HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

13:44:00 SO I CAN'T -- I CANNOT VOTE TO GIVE THIS INDIVIDUAL THE

13:44:03 RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE OR SHE IS DOING.

13:44:06 BECAUSE THERE IS JUST A LOT TO IT THAN WHAT I HAVE

13:44:08 HEARD, FROM WHAT I SEE.

13:44:12 THAT IS JUST MY TAKE.

13:44:15 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN, IF YOU MAY.

13:44:19 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE TO APPROVE THE VRB'S DECISION

13:44:23 TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR A SIDE YARD VARIANCE FROM

13:44:26 SEVEN FEET TO ONE -- TO THREE FEET, RIGHT?

13:44:30 TO -- NO, THAT IS THE WRONG -- SORRY.

13:44:31 ANYWAY.

13:44:33 I WOULD MOVE --

13:44:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU WANT TO DENY THIS IS THE ONE.

13:44:38 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO APPROVE THE VRB'S DECISION TO

13:44:42 DENY THE APPLICATION FOR A SIDE YARD FROM SEVEN FEET TO

13:44:48 ONE FEET FOR EXISTING COVER TO FAIL TO DEMONSTRATE THE

13:44:51 POSITION --

13:44:59 >> ITEM 63, VRB-106.

13:45:01 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT?

13:45:06 MOVE TO APPROVE THE VRB DECISION TO DENY BECAUSE I

13:45:08 HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT WE SHOULD OVERTURN THE

13:45:10 RULING.

13:45:12 >> SECOND.

13:45:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

13:45:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING IN A FEW

13:45:21 MINUTES BEHIND.

13:45:30 IF I CAN ASK -- I JUST NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATION, I

13:45:38 HEARD THE WORD "PATIO" OR "PORCH?"

13:45:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NEVER GOT THE SECOND ONE --

13:45:44 >>BILL CARLSON: FORGET THE LAST MOTION -- I READ THE

13:45:45 WRONG ONE.

13:45:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PUTTING THE MOTION ASIDE.

13:45:52 I NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE STRUCTURE BUILT.

13:45:53 MOVE TO REOPEN.

13:45:55 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR.

13:45:57 ANY OPPOSED.

13:45:59 GO FOR IT.

13:46:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST STAFF ON THIS.

13:46:02 I DON'T KNOW WHO IS STAFF ON THIS.

13:46:07 THANK YOU, ROBERTA.

13:46:09 SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

13:46:13 WHAT WAS THE ULTIMATE STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT.

13:46:19 >> ROBERTA MEADE-CURRY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

13:46:20 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

13:46:22 BASICALLY THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS A HOUSE HERE.

13:46:26 AND THE ADDITIONS WERE SOMEWHERE WITHIN THIS VICINITY

13:46:27 AND BACK HERE.

13:46:31 THE SHED AS THEY DEMONSTRATED WAS REMOVED AND HE AGREED

13:46:33 TO DO THAT IN THE HEARING.

13:46:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE

13:46:38 "ADDITION,"WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING SPACE

13:46:40 UNDER ROOF?

13:46:43 >> A PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE WAS A CARPORT AND THE

13:46:47 OTHER STRUCTURES WERE AIR-CONDITIONED SPACE, YES, SIR.

13:46:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE ARE THEY.

13:46:52 THEY GOT SITED OR SOMETHING.

13:46:56 BUT THE CONSTRUCTION DONE OR BEEN DONE?

13:46:58 >> IT IS EXISTING AT THIS TIME, YES.

13:47:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT SHOWING IT IS ANY SIGNS OF

13:47:05 CONTINUING AND PRETTY MUCH DONE.

13:47:05 >> COMPLETE.

13:47:09 >> UNDER THE CODE AND NOT YOU PERSONALLY BUT UNDER THE

13:47:10 CODE.

13:47:16 IF COUNCIL AFFIRMS THE VRB RECOMMENDATION, THE VRB

13:47:21 DECISION, AND MIGHT HAVE RECOURSE GOING TO COURT AND

13:47:22 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

13:47:24 PUTTING ASIDE.

13:47:27 IF WE AFFIRM THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THEIR

13:47:32 ADDITION AND GO BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL STRUCTURE

13:47:34 TEARING DOWN EVERYTHING WHAT THEY DID.

13:47:36 >> TECHNICALLY WILL HAVE TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE

13:47:36 SETBACKS.

13:47:42 >> IT IF NOT ALL OF IT TEAR DOWN A PORTION OF IT AND

13:47:45 BRING DRAWINGS TO GET A PERMIT.

13:47:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

13:47:52 MR. CHAIRMAN FOR THE REOPENING.

13:47:59 AND I GUESS -- LEGAL WOULD PROBABLY TELL US THAT WE

13:48:03 SHOULDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION -- I WAS READING THE

13:48:10 HARDSHIP -- THE HARDSHIP THAT -- THAT HE PROPOSED.

13:48:13 TRANSLATED.

13:48:15 I CAN'T FIND IT.

13:48:16 THERE IT IS.

13:48:19 I CONSTRUCTED THESE ROOMS BECAUSE MY FAMILY IS TOO BIG

13:48:21 FOR MY HOUSE AND TOO SMALL.

13:48:27 ME, MY WIFE, THREE KIDS AND MY EX-WIFE.

13:48:31 I GUESS THAT IS A FACTOR WE CAN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER

13:48:32 THE EXTENDED FAMILY.

13:48:37 BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, WE CAN CLOSE AND I CAN --

13:48:40 >> I WOULD ASK BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE HEARING YOU ALLOW

13:48:43 REBUTTAL SINCE YOU TOOK ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY FROM

13:48:44 STAFF.

13:48:46 >>LUIS VIERA: TO THE APPLICANT, DO YOU WISH TO SAY

13:48:50 ANYTHING FURTHER AFTER THE LAST QUESTION WAS HELD?

13:48:51 >> YES.

13:48:55 >>LUIS VIERA: GO FORWARD IF YOU WISH, MA'AM.

13:48:59 >> ON HIS BEHALF, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHAT HE WAS

13:49:03 SAYING ABOUT THE TAX ISSUE, THE COLLECTING; HOWEVER, HE

13:49:07 -- HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

13:49:12 COST A LOT OF MONEY AT TIME TO BE PERMITTING, AND HE

13:49:13 WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THAT.

13:49:16 HOWEVER HE WAS WILLING TO DO THE RIGHT THING NOW, AND

13:49:19 HIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN APPRAISED.

13:49:23 AND HE IS PAYING TAXES FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, EVEN

13:49:28 IF -- WITHOUT BEING PERMITTING.

13:49:32 WHERE HE REALLY ARE ASKING YOU IS THE SETBACK WHEN

13:49:37 REALLY TO REPRESENT A HARDSHIP FOR ANY OF THE

13:49:37 NEIGHBORS.

13:49:38 THEY ARE ALL OKAY WITH THAT.

13:49:41 WE ARE WILLING TO PURSUE WITH THE PERMITTING PROCESS

13:49:44 AND IF WE HAVE TO PAY A FINE FOR WHATEVER THE CASE IS

13:49:48 TO CORRECT WHAT HE DID, WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT.

13:49:52 BUT I WOULD COST HIM A LOT OF MONEY TO TURN DOWN THE

13:49:55 WHOLE THING AND REBUILD EVERYTHING.

13:49:59 AND WE REALLY ARE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, TO CONSIDER

13:50:01 THIS SITUATION.

13:50:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

13:50:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

13:50:05 WE APPRECIATE IT.

13:50:06 MOTION TO CLOSE.

13:50:09 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

13:50:10 CITRO.

13:50:13 ANY OPPOSED?

13:50:15 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

13:50:16 SECOND --

13:50:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HEAR THAT MOTION AGAIN FOR CLARITY OF

13:50:20 THE RECORD.

13:50:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE WE APPROVE THE V+ R B'S

13:50:25 DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE NO EVIDENCE

13:50:29 HAS BEEN SHOWN TO JUSTIFY OVERTURNING IT.

13:50:30 >>LUIS VIERA: WHO SECONDED THAT?

13:50:32 I APOLOGIZE.

13:50:34 COUNCILMAN -- CITRO.

13:50:36 SIR, YOU WISH TO SPEAK?

13:50:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THESE ARE NEVER EASY.

13:50:42 JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN CITRO, I SERVED ON THE VARIANCE

13:50:44 BOARD FOR MANY YEARS.

13:50:52 YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT EASY.

13:50:58 I THINK IT IS -- NOTABLE ON THE ONE -- ONE OF VARIANCES

13:51:00 THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IS ON THE ACCESSORY

13:51:05 STRUCTURE WHICH IS NOW MOOT BECAUSE THEY REMOVE THE

13:51:09 ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO COME INTO

13:51:11 COMPLIANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING.

13:51:13 ANYWAY, THAT IS MY TWO SECTS.

13:51:14 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

13:51:16 ALL IN FAVOR.

13:51:17 ANY OPPOSED.

13:51:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NAY.

13:51:23 >>CLERK: DINGFELDER VOTED NO.

13:51:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:51:34 ON WARD FORWARD TO ITEM 76.

13:51:37 THANK YOU, PLANNING COMMISSION, FOR THE LAST 20 MINUTES

13:51:39 FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

13:51:47 GO FOR IT.

13:51:51 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MELISSA ZORNITA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

13:51:53 OF THE CITY-COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.

13:51:58 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK THIS AFTERNOON TO PRESENT

13:52:01 SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT

13:52:05 PROJECTIONS FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

13:52:11 THIS INFORMATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE UPDATE EVERY FIVE

13:52:14 YEARS TO UNDERSTAND EXISTING TRENDS AND WHAT THAT MIGHT

13:52:20 MEAN FOR THE FUTURE, FOR POPULATION AND JOB GROWTH.

13:52:24 WE IN THIS CASE TOOK A LOOK ALSO AT A REAL ESTATE

13:52:28 MARKET ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE

13:52:35 SOME OF THOSE TRENDS ARE -- ARE SHOWING IN OUR

13:52:35 COMMUNITY.

13:52:40 WE LOOK AT SEVERAL SCENARIOS HOW THAT GROWTH PLAYED OUT

13:52:44 AND WE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH A SURVEY

13:52:47 CALLED IT'S TIME HILLSBOROUGH THAT WAS DONE LAST SUMMER

13:52:50 TO ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO SEE

13:52:54 GROWTH FOCUSED.

13:53:00 AND THEN PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER INIAL OCCASION THAT IS

13:53:04 USED BY DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS AS THEY MAKE

13:53:06 DIFFERENT POLICY AND PLANNING COMMISSION.

13:53:10 THESE PROJECTIONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ADOPTED.

13:53:13 BUT THEY ARE SOMETHING THAT THE STATE DOES REQUIRE US

13:53:15 TO UTILIZE IN OUR PLANNING.

13:53:20 THEY ASK -- THIS IS JUST A SECTION OF THE STATUTE THAT

13:53:21 REFERS TO.

13:53:24 THAT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR AT LEAST A TEN-YEAR TIME

13:53:25 HORIZON.

13:53:29 AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO USE THE -- THE PROJECTIONS

13:53:32 ISSUED BY THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC AND RESEARCH OUT OF

13:53:34 THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.

13:53:39 AND THESE PROJECTIONS AS I SAID ARE USED TO UNDERSTAND

13:53:42 THE RAMIFICATION OF SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT MIGHT

13:53:46 FACE YOU AS WELL AS YOUR COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNTY

13:53:49 COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF PLANT CITY AND TEMPLE

13:53:52 TERRACE AS YOU ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT

13:53:53 INFRASTRUCTURE.

13:53:56 THEY ARE UTILIZED IN THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION

13:54:00 PLANNING PROCESS THAT THE MPO DOES, THE SCHOOL

13:54:03 FACILITIES PLANNING PROCESS, OTHER MASTER PLANS FOR

13:54:07 THINGS LIKE FIRE RESCUE SERVICES.

13:54:11 AND WE ALSO USE THEM SORT OF A CHECK TO SEE IF THE

13:54:15 TRENDS AND DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE ARE TAKING US

13:54:19 -- ARE CONTINUING TO BE IN A LINE WITH THE CITY'S

13:54:22 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR A NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES

13:54:26 THERE.

13:54:35 SO THE PROJECTIONS FOR 2045, THAT OUR COMMUNITY,

13:54:40 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS A WHOLE WILL BE OVER $2 -- TWO

13:54:43 MILLION PEOPLE.

13:54:45 WE HAVE BEEN STEADILY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION OVER THE

13:54:48 LAST TEN YEARS AS A COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

13:54:52 WE HAVE ADDED 23,000 PEOPLE ON AVERAGE PER YEAR.

13:54:56 AND THEN THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS ADDED ON AVERAGE ABOUT

13:54:58 6,000 PEOPLE WE ARE YEAR.

13:55:02 BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IN -- JUST IN THE LAST YEAR

13:55:07 BETWEEN 2018 AND 2019, THAT WAS CLOSE TO 12,000 PEOPLE.

13:55:10 SO THE -- THE GROWTH IS -- IS STEADY.

13:55:14 IT'S BEEN INCREASING IN THE RECENT YEARS THAT WE HAVE

13:55:17 COME OUT OF THE RECESSION AND WE ARE ALL FEELING THE

13:55:20 IMPACTS OF THAT AND THAT IS A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE

13:55:24 HEARING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

13:55:27 WE LOOK AT A NUMBER TRENDS HOW WE ARE DOING.

13:55:30 AND ONE OF THEM IS TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE DEVELOPING IN

13:55:32 TERMS OF OUR DENSITY.

13:55:35 THE BLUE COLUMN IN EACH OF THESE IS THE AVERAGE THAT

13:55:39 YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS IN TERMS OF DENSITY FOR

13:55:40 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

13:55:44 AND THE TAN IN EACH CASE IS ON AVERAGE ACROSS THE

13:55:47 JURISDICTION WHAT THAT -- WHAT IS BUILT.

13:55:51 SO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON AVERAGE ALLOWS 19

13:55:58 UNITS PER ACRE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA ON FIVE DWELLING

13:55:59 UNITS PER ACRE.

13:56:02 EACH OF THE JURISDICTION IS ALLOWED FOR WHAT IS ON

13:56:04 AVERAGE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

13:56:06 AND SIMILARLY.

13:56:10 THE SAME THING AS IT COMES TO FLOOR AREA RATIO, THE

13:56:13 MEASURE OF INTENSITY OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

13:56:17 THOSE ARE -- HAVE TRADITIONALLY -- THE DEVELOPMENT HAS

13:56:21 BEEN WELL BELOW WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PERMITS.

13:56:25 WE TOOK AT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND WHERE THAT HAS BEEN

13:56:30 OCCURRING AND IN PARTICULAR, WHERE MULTIFAMILY

13:56:32 DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN OCCURRING AND A NUMBER OF HOT

13:56:37 SPOTS PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AROUND

13:56:41 DOWNTOWN, SOME THE AREAS IN WESTSHORE, UP AROUND THE

13:56:47 UNIVERSITY AREA.

13:56:50 WE LOOK GENERALLY WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING

13:56:55 PERMITS ARE FOCUSED AND AGAIN FROM 2011 TO 2017, YOU

13:56:59 CAN SEE A COUPLE -- THREE AREAS OF FOCUS THERE,

13:57:03 DOWNTOWN, WESTSHORE AND SORT OF THE WESTERN EDGE OF

13:57:05 BRANDON ALONG I-75.

13:57:08 IN TERMS OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

13:57:12 DOWNTOWN AND WESTSHORE CONTINUE TO BE HOT AREAS AND THE

13:57:17 AREA EAST OF THE AIRPORT.

13:57:20 IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT GROWTH.

13:57:25 THE DENSITY OF EMPLOYEES OF JOBS PER GROSS ACRE.

13:57:28 AND THE DARKER THE COLOR THE MORE JOBS THAT ARE

13:57:29 PREVALENT IN THOSE AREAS.

13:57:33 YOU CAN SEE THAT CONTINUES TO BE CENTERED AROUND THE

13:57:36 MAJOR BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

13:57:40 INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITY, SOME OF THE AREAS NORTH OF

13:57:43 THE AIRPORT START TO POP UP AND AS WELL AS STATE ROAD

13:57:46 60 CORRIDOR TO BRANDON.

13:57:50 SO SORT OF WHAT WE EXPLORED IN OUR SCENARIO IS WHAT

13:57:54 WOULD HAPPEN IF WE KEPT BUILDING THE WAY THAT WE HAVE,

13:57:58 BECAUSE AS THE TRENDS HAVE SHOWN, WE ARE BUILDING BELOW

13:58:00 THE DENSITY THAT HAS BEEN PERMITTED.

13:58:04 IF WE KEPT DOING THAT, COUNTYWIDE, WE WOULD BE LOOKING

13:58:08 AT NEEDING TO EXPAND INTO SOME OF OUR RURAL AREAS IN

13:58:09 THE FUTURE.

13:58:14 IT WOULD CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION

13:58:17 INVESTMENTS THAT ARE MORE HIGHWAY FOCUSED BECAUSE OF

13:58:20 THAT SPREADING OUT OF THE GROWTH AS OPPOSED TO FOCUSING

13:58:24 IT AROUND SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO

13:58:27 SUPPORT GREATER ADDITIONAL MODES OF TRANSIT.

13:58:31 THIS SORT OF SHOWS IN THIS TIMELINE BETWEEN NOW AND

13:58:35 2045 WHEN WE MIGHT -- IF WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THE WAY

13:58:39 WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING, COUNTYWIDE, WE WOULD BUILD OUT

13:58:44 THE CITY'S AND THE -- AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA THEY

13:58:46 HAVE A URBAN SERVICE AREA WHERE THEY ARE TRYING TO

13:58:47 FOCUS GROWTH.

13:58:50 THAT WILL BUILD OUT AROUND 2035.

13:58:53 NOW I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.

13:58:57 NOTHING THAT IS SET IN STONE, BUT A WAY TO INFORM SOME

13:59:00 OF OUR DECISION MAKING BECAUSE IF THAT IS NOT THE

13:59:02 FUTURE WE WANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO MAKE

13:59:06 DECISIONS DIFFERENTLY NOW.

13:59:09 SO -- AND THAT IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.

13:59:12 WHAT WE HEARD TO THE COMMUNITY FROM OUR SURVEYS AND

13:59:17 PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PRESERVE A RURAL

13:59:19 PROPONENT OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

13:59:22 THEY WILL LIKE TO FOCUS GROWTH ON SOME OF THE

13:59:24 COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

13:59:27 WHERE THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON TRANSIT

13:59:31 ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE GREATER INFILL AND

13:59:36 REDEVELOPMENT IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

13:59:41 THAT SCENARIO WOULD SUPPORT SOME ADDITIONAL MULTIMODAL

13:59:48 OPTIONS POTENTIALLY SOME FIXED SKYWAY TRANSIT, FURTHER

13:59:51 EXPRESS BUS OR RAPID TRANSIT AS WELL.

13:59:53 THIS LINES UP WITH THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT

13:59:57 ARE BEING PLANNED IN THE MPO'S LONG RANGE

14:00:00 TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

14:00:03 THIS ALSO LINES UP WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA'S EXISTING

14:00:08 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BY FOCUSES GROWTH PARTICULARLY IN

14:00:12 -- IN AND AROUND THE THREE BUSINESS DISTRICTS,

14:00:15 WESTSHORE, DOWNTOWN AND THE UNIVERSITY AREA.

14:00:20 SOME OF THE MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS CONNECTING THOSE

14:00:25 ARE ALSO A MAJOR FOCUS IN THE CITY'S LAND USE MAP AS

14:00:28 WELL AS ARTICULATED IN THE CITY'S VISION MAP.

14:00:34 IN TERMS OF SOME NUMBERS, THIS SHOWS SORT OF THE --

14:00:38 THE DIFFERENT SHARE OF THE POPULATION OF EACH OF THE

14:00:41 CITIES AS WELL AS THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.

14:00:46 SO THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD GROW BY 61% BETWEEN NOW AND

14:00:50 2045.

14:00:54 ANOTHER 2012 PEOPLE.

14:00:58 IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT GROWTH, IT WOULD GROW ABOUT --

14:01:03 JUST OVER 200,000 EMPLOYEES.

14:01:07 LOOKING TO ADD THAT TODAY, THE CITY OF TAMPA MAKES UP

14:01:12 21% OF THE -- WELL, THIS IS 2015 POPULATION.

14:01:16 AND IN 2045, THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL MAKE UP 22% OF THE

14:01:20 OVERALL COUNTY POPULATION.

14:01:24 IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT, IN 2015, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS

14:01:28 ABOUT 22% OF THE EMPLOYMENT COUNTYWIDE AND IN 2045, IT

14:01:31 WILL BE 33% OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT.

14:01:36 A LOT OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT IS FOCUSED ON THOSE THREE

14:01:37 BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

14:01:41 IN TERMS OF TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THERE WERE

14:01:44 SOME ASSUMPTIONS MADE IN THE -- IN THE MODELING THAT

14:01:47 GENERATED THESE NUMBERS THAT THERE WOULD BE TRANSIT

14:01:52 ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ALONG SOME FIXED SKYWAY TRANSIT,

14:01:55 ALONG THE CORRIDORS FROM THE AIRPORT DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN

14:01:57 TO THE UNIVERSITY.

14:02:00 AND THAT WOULD CONTEMPLATE BOTH THE TYPES OF TRANSIT

14:02:05 THAT HART IS LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF VRT, OR MORE FIXED

14:02:09 RAIL ALONG SOMETHING LIKE THE CSX LINES.

14:02:15 WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME ADDITIONAL BUS DRIVER TRANSIT

14:02:19 OUT TO THE BRANDON AREA.

14:02:22 AND ALLOWING FOR THAT TYPE OF TRANSIT ORIENTED

14:02:26 DEVELOPMENT ALLOW US TO ACCOMMODATE ONE OUT OF FOUR NEW

14:02:29 RESIDENTS AND ONE OUTS OF THREE NEW JOBS IN THOSE

14:02:30 AREAS.

14:02:34 SO IT REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS THE GROWTH IN

14:02:38 THOSE -- THOSE AREAS.

14:02:40 LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

14:02:45 THIS MAP IS HARD TO READ, BUT THE AREAS THAT ARE --

14:02:50 YELLOW, ORANGE OR RED, START TO POP OUT AS AREAS AS THE

14:02:54 BUILDING TO THE LAND VALUE RATIO IS SUCH THAT IT MIGHT

14:02:57 BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE LANDOWNER TO TEAR DOWN THE

14:02:59 BUILDING AND BUILD SOMETHING ELSE ON THE PROPERTY

14:03:01 BECAUSE THE LAND IS THAT VALUABLE.

14:03:04 AN INDICATOR THERE MIGHT BE POTENTIAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT

14:03:08 AND A LOT OF THAT IS ALONG OUR EXISTING COMMERCIAL

14:03:11 CORRIDORS.

14:03:14 WE HAVE A LITTLE FURTHER DRILL DOWN INTO THE NUMBERS.

14:03:19 WE LOOKED AT IT IN SUB AREAS WITHIN THE CITY AND THE

14:03:24 UNINCORPORATED COUNTY TO HAVE GET A BETTER FEEL FOR

14:03:25 WHERE THIS GROWTH IS GOING.

14:03:30 SO THIS SHOWS IN TURQUOISE THE EXISTING OR 2015

14:03:34 POPULATION, AND THE 2045 POPULATION.

14:03:41 AND A COUPLE THAT STAND OUT HERE IN THE CITY.

14:03:46 YOU CAN SEE DOWNTOWN IS A LOT OF FUTURE GROWTH.

14:03:48 SOUTH TAMPA HAS A GOOD CHUNK.

14:03:54 NORTH TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, A NUMBER THOSE POP OUT ACROSS

14:03:58 THE -- AND THEN IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT, IT STANDS OUT

14:04:03 EVEN MORE DOWNTOWN BEING A MAJOR FOCAL POINT FOR FUTURE

14:04:04 EMPLOYMENT GROWTH.

14:04:08 WESTSHORE CONTINUING TO BUILD ON THE SYNERGY THAT IS

14:04:09 THERE.

14:04:14 THE UNIVERSITY AREA OF BRANDON ALSO THERE ARE HIGH

14:04:14 THERE.

14:04:16 THAT IS THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE TO PRESENT AND

14:04:17 SHARE.

14:04:20 THERE'S -- AS I UNDERSTAND IT THERE IS GOING TO BE A

14:04:23 WORKSHOP DISCUSSING IT WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON

14:04:24 MARCH 25.

14:04:28 SO WE WANTED YOU ALL TO BE UP TO SPEED ON WHAT THE

14:04:31 PLANS ARE, AND I WILL BE WELCOME TO ANSWER ANY

14:04:31 QUESTIONS.

14:04:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION

14:04:38 AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

14:04:43 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEN?

14:04:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL DEFER TO ANYBODY ELSE.

14:04:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO QUESTIONS, BUT STATEMENT.

14:04:51 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE INFORMATION TO US.

14:04:53 I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE BEHIND YOU THAT HELP WITH THAT.

14:04:56 WHAT -- MR. CHAIR, I WILL BE VERY QUICK.

14:04:58 WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

14:05:01 AND SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY.

14:05:05 SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE OUT IN SUBURBIA.

14:05:06 I GET THAT.

14:05:10 AND WE ALL GET THAT; HOWEVER, THERE IS A CAUSE AND

14:05:10 EFFECT.

14:05:13 TRANSPORTATION IS OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE AND I MENTIONED

14:05:15 THAT TODAY FROM THE FDOT.

14:05:19 YOU WANT TO LIVE OUT IN SUBURBIA, THAT IS FINE, LIKELY

14:05:22 TO GO TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO WORK.

14:05:24 TRANSPORTATION HAS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE FOCUS AND THE

14:05:29 MAYOR REPEATED IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN IF FDOT IS

14:05:32 LISTENING, LET'S WIPE EVERYTHING OFF THE TABLE WE HAVE

14:05:34 NOW AND START WORKING ON TRANSPORTATION.

14:05:35 THANK YOU.

14:05:37 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

14:05:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:05:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU AND THE PLANNING

14:05:46 COMMISSION FOR, AND YOUR TEAM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

14:05:48 THE DOCUMENT -- IS THAT A DOCUMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING

14:05:50 TO PROVIDE FOR US?

14:05:53 HOW DOES THAT WORK?

14:05:55 >> WE HANDED OUT THE COPIES OF THE PRESENTATION LAST

14:05:55 WEEK.

14:05:57 SO I APOLOGIZE.

14:05:59 YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE ROOM AND NOT HAVE GOT

14:06:00 ONE.

14:06:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS FINE.

14:06:02 I --

14:06:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE TWO EXTRA COPIES HERE.

14:06:06 >> HOW HANDY.

14:06:10 WE WILL MAKE SURE THIS GETS RECIRCULATED TO ANYBODY.

14:06:12 SO YOU CAN HOLD ON TO THAT.

14:06:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

14:06:17 ONE, WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY WILL LIKELY TAKE THIS SHARE

14:06:20 OF THE POPULATION AND THE COUNTY WILL LIKELY TAKE THIS

14:06:22 SHARE.

14:06:26 IS THAT -- WHAT KIND OF PRESUMPTION IS THAT BASED UPON.

14:06:35 BASED UPON CURRENT TRENDS AND I HAVE GOT FOLLOW-ON

14:06:35 QUESTIONS.

14:06:36 >> SURE.

14:06:40 MOST IS WHAT IS ADOPTED IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

14:06:43 THE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE FUTURE

14:06:45 LAND USE MAP IS THE BASIS FOR MOST OF IT.

14:06:49 THE PRIMARY ASSUMPTION IS THE TRANSIT ORIENTED

14:06:50 DEVELOPMENT.

14:06:54 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OUTLINES A DENSITY BONUS.

14:06:59 A TRANSIT STATION ALONG A FIXED SKYWAY TRANSIT LINE AND

14:07:03 MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN THE RED AREA THAT THE DENSITY

14:07:07 MIGHT BUMP UP IN THOSE AREAS BEYOND WHAT WAS IN THE

14:07:09 FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

14:07:12 MOST OF IT IS BASED ON WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN YOUR PLAN

14:07:15 TODAY.

14:07:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE TRANSITS ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT,

14:07:22 T.O.D., WHAT YOU CALL IT, ZONES.

14:07:23 >> STATION AREAS.

14:07:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY UNDERSTANDING A WORK IN PROGRESS

14:07:28 RIGHT NOW?

14:07:28 >> IT IS.

14:07:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BY WHOM?

14:07:34 >> WELL, DECISION THAT'S NEED TO BE MADE ABOUT WHERE

14:07:38 THE FIXED TRANSIT LINES ARE GOING TO GO AND THOSE

14:07:41 DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY HART.

14:07:44 WE ARE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY AND HART

14:07:49 FROM A GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION TO

14:07:55 DO SOME STATIONARY PLANNING AROUND THE ALIGNMENT THAT

14:08:00 IS CHOSEN FOR THE STREET CAR EXTENSION AND THE HART

14:08:06 VOTE GOING UP FLORIDA, NEBRASKA AND NOW FOWLER AND

14:08:09 BEGIN TO APPLY MUCH WHAT IS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

14:08:11 FOR CLOSE TO TEN YEARS NOW.

14:08:14 WE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR TRANSIT

14:08:17 ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE T PART

14:08:18 OF THE TOD.

14:08:22 WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY START TO TALK IN REAL TERMS

14:08:22 ABOUT THAT.

14:08:33 >> YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS A DAY OR TWO.

14:08:36 A LOT OF TIMES BRING US PROJECTS, US BEING CITY COUNCIL

14:08:46 FOR REZONING AND THEY ARE SORT OF LEADING THE WAY.

14:08:51 THEY ARE SAYING, WE THINK IT IS GREAT -- LET'S PUT 300

14:08:55 UNITS DOWN IN A CERTAIN PART OF TOWN AND WON'T GO INTO

14:08:57 ANY DETAIL.

14:09:01 AND YOU KNOW, AND YET, THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS MAY BE

14:09:06 WELL OFF COURSE IN TERMS OF THE TOD AND WHERE ANY --

14:09:10 ANY REAL LIKELIHOOD OF ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE,

14:09:14 AND THE CITY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

14:09:18 MIGHT ALLOW THAT AND MANY CASES THE CITY APPROVES IT

14:09:20 AND THOSE GET BUILT.

14:09:24 WE HAVE MANY OF THOSE ALONG -- ALONG WESTSHORE WHICH IS

14:09:29 A TWO-LANE ROAD AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING TALKING TO JEAN

14:09:33 DUNCAN, NO IDEA TO EXPAND IT BEYOND TWO YEARS EVEN

14:09:37 THOUGH WE APPROVED AND VARIOUS COUNCILS ALONG THE YEAR

14:09:41 HAVE APPROVED THOUSANDS OF UNITS ALONG WESTSHORE.

14:09:42 AND THAT IS AN EXAMPLE.

14:09:47 INSTEAD OF BEING PROACTIVE AS A CITY WE ALWAYS IN MY

14:09:50 LIFETIME CAN BE REACTIVE.

14:09:52 I THINK IT IS GREAT WE ARE HAVING THIS TYPE OF

14:09:53 CONVERSATION.

14:09:54 I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS

14:09:57 CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY.

14:10:01 IN RECORD TO LET'S ALL BE MORE PROACTIVE AND BASICALLY

14:10:06 TELL THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WE ARE NOT TELLING THEM

14:10:07 WE DON'T WANT GROWTH.

14:10:09 WE KNOW THAT GROWTH IS COMING.

14:10:12 GROWTH IS COMING IN MASSIVE TENS OF THOUSAND OF NUMBERS

14:10:16 OVER THE X NUMBER OF YEARS.

14:10:19 WE ARE NOT TELLING THEM WE DON'T WANT THEM TO COME OR

14:10:22 BUILD TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND LET'S PUT MORE PROACTIVE

14:10:24 IN TERMS OF WHERE THOSE BEST PLACES ARE.

14:10:28 AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ALLUDING TO, MELISSA,

14:10:32 IS THAT WHERE ARE THOSE PLACE I WOULD ASSERT BETWEEN

14:10:34 HERE AND THE AIRPORT, OKAY.

14:10:37 TO ME, THAT IS THE FUTURE DOWNTOWN.

14:10:40 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND I THINK I SAID THAT -- 20 YEARS

14:10:44 AGO WHEN FLY OUT OF THE AIRPORT AND THEY SAY, WHERE IS

14:10:44 DOWNTOWN.

14:10:47 AND I THINK DOWNTOWN WILL BE THIS ONE MASSIVE CORRIDOR

14:10:51 BETWEEN WHERE WE SIT RIGHT HERE AND THE AIRPORT.

14:10:55 AND WHETHER OR NOT IT IS ALONG CYPRESS OR KENNEDY OR

14:11:01 THE -- OR THE INTERSTATE OR EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, I

14:11:02 THINK THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

14:11:04 THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN ATLANTA.

14:11:07 ATLANTA HAS STARTED AS A DOWNTOWN AND MOVE NORTH AND

14:11:10 BUCKHEAD AND CREEPED UP, AND PRETTY SOON.

14:11:15 THEY SORT OF HAVE THIS ELONGATED DOWNTOWN TO THE BEST

14:11:17 OF MY RECOLLECTION.

14:11:20 WITH THAT ALSO HAVE TRANSIT TO GO WITH IT.

14:11:23 AND SO YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.

14:11:25 THE UNIVERSITY AREA HAS GREAT POTENTIAL.

14:11:27 THERE IS A LOT OF LAND OUT THERE.

14:11:29 A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT OUT THERE.

14:11:34 NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO SPEAK OF, NOT

14:11:41 NEARLY WHAT THERE COULD BE, BUT ONCE AGAIN, LET'S DO A

14:11:47 BETTER JOB AND, CAROL, I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE

14:11:48 JOINING US TODAY.

14:11:51 LET'S DO A BETTER JOB OF BEING PROACTIVE, YOU KNOW.

14:11:53 AND FLORIDA HAS NEVER BEEN GOOD AT THAT.

14:11:58 FLORIDA HAS ALWAYS BEEN REACTIVE AND RESPONSIVE AND

14:12:00 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH SPRAWL.

14:12:03 I THINK THAT IS WHY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AT LEAST

14:12:06 THREE OR FOUR HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT.

14:12:10 AND MY LAST POINT IS, I THINK WE CAN HELP THE COUNTY.

14:12:13 I THINK WE CAN HELP THE COUNTY REDUCE THEIR SPRAWL,

14:12:16 BECAUSE -- AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE

14:12:20 WHAT I HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE THEY ALREADY THINK TAMPA IS

14:12:21 STILL CROWDED.

14:12:23 BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THAT DENSITY AND SOME

14:12:26 OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING DOWN HERE AND SAY, YOU

14:12:29 KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE GOT GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO COME DOWN

14:12:33 HERE AND LIVE IN THESE HIGH-RISES, LIVE IN THESE

14:12:37 MID-RISES, AND BE A BLOCK OR TWO FROM THE TRAIN STATION

14:12:44 OR THE BUS STATION OR THE BRT OR WHAT HAVE YOU IN THESE

14:12:48 GREAT URBAN AREAS AND YOU DON'T TO HAVE THAT SINGLE

14:12:51 FAMILY HOUSE IN SPRAWL LAND.

14:12:55 AND I THINK, JOE, AS YOU SAID, I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE

14:12:59 WILL SAY, HEY, THAT IS MY CHOICE, BUT I LIKE THAT

14:12:59 CHOICE.

14:13:00 YOU KNOW.

14:13:03 AND IT IS SORT OF A WIN-WIN.

14:13:06 WE CAN DEVELOP AND ENCOURAGE AND BOOST OUR TRANSIT

14:13:10 SYSTEM AND AT THE SAME TIME, STILL HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE

14:13:12 OUT ON THE EDGES OF THE COUNTY.

14:13:16 BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO LOSE IT AND LOOK JUST

14:13:19 LIKE PINELLAS COUNTY BECAUSE PINELLAS AS WE ALL KNOW IS

14:13:20 BUILT OUT WALL TO WALL.

14:13:21 THANK YOU.

14:13:23 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

14:13:25 >> GO AHEAD, SIR.

14:13:32 >> GOOD POINTS BY MR. CITRO AND MR. DINGFELDER, BUT THE

14:13:35 PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS, WE DON'T COMMUNICATE WITH.

14:13:39 THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS, IF YOU HAVE TEAM A, B, C AND

14:13:44 D, AND THEY NEVER MEET COLLECTIVELY, YOU NEVER GET A

14:13:45 PLAN.

14:13:50 IT IS ALWAYS B'S PLAN OR A'S PLAN.

14:13:53 NEVER THE WHOLE TEAM'S PLAN OR CONFERENCE PLAN.

14:13:57 I ALWAYS USE THE ANALYSIS WHEN I COACH AND RUN

14:14:02 CONFERENCES FROM GEORGIA, ALABAMA, TENNESSEE, FLORIDA.

14:14:05 YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR, I WOULD HAVE WHAT I HAVE AN

14:14:10 ANNUAL MEETING SO I CAN HEAR FROM ANYBODY IN THE WHOLE

14:14:13 REGION TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY MAKING THE PLAN.

14:14:15 VERSUS I AM GOING TO GEORGIA AND GEORGIA IS WANTING TO

14:14:17 DO THIS.

14:14:20 IT IS REALLY AFFECTING FLORIDA AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM

14:14:21 WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY.

14:14:22 WE DON'T COMMUNICATE.

14:14:25 EVERYTHING IS SEPARATED AND HAVE THEIR TERRITORIAL

14:14:26 THING.

14:14:29 THE SAME THING FOR FDOT THIS MORNING.

14:14:32 WE SERVE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND ALL THE CITIZENS.

14:14:33 ALL THE RESIDENTS.

14:14:34 EVERYBODY GO HERE.

14:14:37 I GO OUT TO THE COUNTY TO DO THINGS.

14:14:38 PEOPLE COME IN TOWN.

14:14:42 WE HAVE MEETINGS THAT EVERYONE IS AT THE TABLE.

14:14:46 COUNTY COMMISSION, TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY AND US

14:14:47 MAKING THE PLAN.

14:14:49 AND THAT IS THE MESSAGE I WANT TO SEND TO PEOPLE.

14:14:54 WE HAVE TO START BEING TOGETHER AS ONE VOICE, ONE SOUND

14:14:58 THAT WILL HELP EVERY CORNERSTONE OF HILLSBOROUGH

14:14:58 COUNTY.

14:15:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

14:15:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I JUST NEED TO SHOUT OUT TO

14:15:05 THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

14:15:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VOTE ON RAISING SOME FEES

14:15:11 FOR SCHOOLS.

14:15:14 BUT NOW WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE SCHOOL IS

14:15:16 GOING TO GO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

14:15:18 THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE BUILT OUT.

14:15:21 THERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE NEEDING A NEW HIGH SCHOOL

14:15:23 SOME TIME SOON.

14:15:28 I KNOW CHIARAMONTE WAS THE LAST SCHOOL BUILT IN SOUTH

14:15:29 TAMPA.

14:15:31 LET'S THINK OF WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO.

14:15:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER FOLLOW-UP TO MR. GUDES'

14:15:39 VERY, VERY EXCELLENT COMMENT OF COMMUNICATING BETWEEN

14:15:40 TWO JURISDICTIONS.

14:15:43 THIS MEETING THAT COMMISSIONER MILLER HAS ORGANIZED AND

14:15:48 INVITED US TO IS ALMOST WITHOUT PRECEDENT OF THE CITY

14:15:51 ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AND TALKING LONG-RANGE

14:15:52 PLANNING.

14:15:52 I THINK IT IS GREAT.

14:15:55 I HOPE IT IS THE FIRST OF MANY.

14:15:57 AND THE OTHER THING -- I WAS WONDERING THIS THE OTHER

14:16:06 DAY MELISSA IN TERMS OF STATE STATUTE KNEW WHICH ARE

14:16:08 INTERCONNECTED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND IF

14:16:12 THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT TEMPLE TERRACE AND PLANT CITY.

14:16:16 IS IT POSSIBLE TO ULTIMATELY COMBINE ALL OF THOSE PLANS

14:16:22 INTO ONE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

14:16:25 WILL STATE STATUTE ALLOW IT.

14:16:27 THERE IS A PRECEDENT.

14:16:30 AND I AM PUTTING NEW THE SPOT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T TALKED

14:16:31 ABOUT IT.

14:16:35 AGAIN, THE ULTIMATE COMMUNICATOR BECAUSE -- AND I KNOW

14:16:37 DEVELOPER ALSO ACTUALLY LIKE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE

14:16:39 BOOK TO GO TO.

14:16:42 IN TERMS OF WHAT IT THE LONG-RANGE PLAN AND DESIRE OF

14:16:45 THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

14:16:48 YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW, THAT IF YOU ASK TEN PEOPLE OUT

14:16:53 ON THE STREET WHERE THE CITY LINE IS, NINE OF THEM

14:16:54 AREN'T GOING TO KNOW.

14:16:58 AND FRANKLY BRAD BAIRD SERVES WATER TO -- AN EXTRA

14:17:01 THIRD OF THE COUNTY.

14:17:05 >> YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT TODAY'S STATE STATUTE REQUIRES

14:17:10 EACH JURISDICTION -- ANDREA CAN HELP ME IF I AM WRONG,

14:17:15 FOR EACH JURISDICTION TO ADOPT THEIR OWN COMPREHENSIVE

14:17:16 PLAN.

14:17:17 CERTAIN CAN BE COMMON.

14:17:23 YOU HAVE IDENTICAL SCHOOL FACILITY ELEMENTS OF THE

14:17:24 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

14:17:27 GIVEN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SERVES ALL FOUR

14:17:29 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WE LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO

14:17:32 HAVE GREATER CONSISTENCY AMONG THE PLAN.

14:17:35 WE RECENTLY DID A STUDY OF FOWLER AVENUE WITH THE

14:17:38 RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BEGIN TO -- IN THAT QUARTER HAVE

14:17:41 THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORY THAN THE NORTH AND SOUTH

14:17:44 SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR AND BRIDGE THE COUNTY AND THE

14:17:45 CITY.

14:17:49 THOSE ARE THE SAMPLE -- EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE CAN DO MORE

14:17:52 OF CERTAINLY.

14:17:52 >> ANYONE ELSE.

14:17:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

14:17:56 I APPRECIATE IT.

14:17:59 I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT THE UNIVERSITY AREA.

14:17:59 RELEVANT.

14:18:00 NEW TAMPA.

14:18:08 1989 AND 1990, TODAY ABOUT 55,000 TO 60,000 PEOPLE THAT

14:18:09 IS OUT THERE.

14:18:12 A GREAT EXAMPLE OF JUST POPULATION EXPLOSION.

14:18:14 LOOK AT COUNTY LINE ROAD.

14:18:17 A LOOK WHAT IS DEALT WITH BY PASCO COUNTY.

14:18:21 AND THE FOLKS OUT THERE -- YOU KNOW A CONSTANT CRISIS

14:18:22 FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE.

14:18:25 A VERY RELEVANT CONVERSATION FOR ALL OF THE

14:18:26 COMMUNITIES.

14:18:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:18:30 THANK YOU.

14:18:33 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT WE MOVE -- COUNCILMEMBERS I NEED TO

14:18:37 LEAVE HERE AT ABOUT 2:35.

14:18:40 I WAS A HOME APPRAISAL I HAVE TO BE THERE AND OPEN THE

14:18:40 DOOR FOR SOMEBODY.

14:18:43 SO I -- BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH MOST OF

14:18:44 IT.

14:18:49 BUT I SEE HERE, WE HAVE NEXT ITEM 70, I BELIEVE IS

14:18:50 NEXT.

14:18:53 ITEM 70.

14:18:57 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY

14:18:58 ADMINISTRATOR.

14:19:04 ITEM 70 IS ABOUT THE CYPRESS CREEK OUTFALL REGIONAL

14:19:08 IMPROVEMENT AND THE IMPACT ON BUSINESSES ON CASS

14:19:09 STREET.

14:19:13 AND I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SHOWING A PROJECT MAP ON

14:19:17 THE OVERHEAD IF I COULD.

14:19:26 SO THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF LARGE BOX CULVERTS AND

14:19:31 PERTINENTS AND A LARGE WATER LINE EXTENSION AND A LOT

14:19:34 OF RELOCATION OF UTILITIES STARTING FROM NORTH

14:19:37 BOULEVARD ON CASS STREET ALL THE WAY TO ROME.

14:19:42 AND THEN SOUTH ON ROME TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

14:19:51 AND THEN ON GRAY STREET ALL THE WAY OVER TO JUST PAST

14:19:53 TAMPANIA.

14:19:57 I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SCALE OF THIS

14:20:04 PROJECT AND HOW LARGE IT IS IN THE WEST TAMPA AREA.

14:20:09 SO THE -- THE OVERALL BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT TO REDUCE

14:20:12 FLOODING OBVIOUSLY IN A RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL

14:20:17 AREAS OF.

14:20:21 I AM NOT GOING TO USE THE OVERHEAD AGAIN, SO IF WE

14:20:26 COULD -- THE -- CONSISTING OF THOSE STREETS THAT I JUST

14:20:30 WENT THROUGH AND THE SURROUNDING AREA -- AREAS, THE

14:20:30 NEIGHBORHOODS THERE.

14:20:35 WE WILL ALSO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, IMPROVED

14:20:39 MOBILITY, MAKE MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS.

14:20:42 UPGRADE SIGNALIZATION AND IN THE TRANSPORTATION AREA

14:20:46 AND FINALLY REDUCE POLLUTANT LOADING ON THE

14:20:48 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND HILLSBOROUGH BAY.

14:20:52 WE HAVE GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

14:20:57 IT'S A DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT AWARDED TO WOODRUFF AND

14:21:00 SONS AT 35.6 MILLION.

14:21:04 VALERIAN GROUP IS THE SUB CONSULTANT BROUGHT ON IT TO

14:21:06 PERFORM PUBLIC RELATIONS.

14:21:09 REAL QUICKLY JUST THREE POINTS ON THE TIMELINE.

14:21:14 THE NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS GIVEN JULY 24 OF LAST YEAR,

14:21:15 2019.

14:21:20 AND THEN -- WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, THE CASS

14:21:26 STREET CLOSURE FROM WILLOW TO ROME WILL LAST THROUGH

14:21:32 ABOUT JULY 1 AND THAT INCLUDES TWO WEEKS OF CONTINGENCY

14:21:36 OF IMPLEMENT WEATHER AND UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS.

14:21:40 AND FINAL LET ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE IS NOVEMBER

14:21:43 2021.

14:21:48 THIS IS A RATHER LARGE UNDERTAKING.

14:21:52 AND LET ME GET TO THE CYPRESS CREEK OUTFALL PUBLIC

14:21:54 ENGAGEMENT ITEMS.

14:21:58 FIRST WE STARTED OUT IN 2018 WITH MAIL-OUT TO PROPERTY

14:22:01 OWNERS, RESIDENCES, BUSINESSES.

14:22:06 WE PROVIDED A NOTICE OF A OPEN PUBLIC MEETING ON THE

14:22:08 PROJECT WEB SITE.

14:22:15 HELD A OPEN HOUSE ON DECEMBER 4 OF 2018.

14:22:17 AND INCLUDED DESIGN BOARDS FOR ALL THREE OF THE PROJECT

14:22:18 SEGMENTS.

14:22:24 WE SAW EARLIER ON THE MAP.

14:22:26 WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD PARTICIPATION IN THAT.

14:22:30 I PERSONALLY WENT TO THAT OPEN HOUSE.

14:22:34 THEY -- PARTICIPANTS WERE INVITED TO SUBMIT COMMENT

14:22:38 CARDS ON THEIR INPUT AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS

14:22:39 PART OF THE PROJECT.

14:22:43 WE FOLLOW THAT WITH A WEST TAMPA CRA MEETING WHERE WE

14:22:48 DID A PRESENTATION, Q & A WITH THE WEST TAMPA CRA

14:22:50 ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

14:22:55 AND THEN WE HAD DOOR HANGER NOTIFICATIONS.

14:22:57 ALL BEFORE CONSTRUCTION.

14:23:01 AND WHAT THE PLAN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WERE, THE

14:23:04 CITY SUGGESTED DETOUR ROUTE AND OF COURSE THE ALL THE

14:23:08 CONTACT INFORMATION INCLUDING A 24-HOUR HOTLINE, WEB

14:23:13 SITE, LINKED TO A MOBILE APP THAT WE CREATED AND

14:23:14 PROJECT E-MAIL.

14:23:20 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ONE ON ONE OUTREACH, WHERE WE

14:23:23 WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND THIS IS BEFORE -- BEFORE

14:23:27 CONSTRUCTION OUTREACH TO ALL THE PROPERTY AND BUSINESS

14:23:29 OWNERS ALONG THE PROJECT CORRIDOR.

14:23:36 AND THEN WE HAVE PRESS RELEASES AND -- FINISH IN THREE

14:23:37 MINUTES TODAY.

14:23:40 PRESS LEASES AND TRAFFIC ADVISORIES.

14:23:44 AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS

14:23:49 -- HAS BEEN FAIRLY EXTENSIVE, PROVIDED SPECIFIC SIGNS

14:23:51 FOR THE IMPACT OF BUSINESSES.

14:23:55 WHERE WE LISTED THE BUSINESS'S NAME ON THOSE SIGNS.

14:24:00 WE PLACED THEM TO KEY POINTS ALONG THE DETOUR ROUTES TO

14:24:02 NOTIFY DRIVERS THAT THE BUSINESSES ARE OPEN AND

14:24:05 ACCESSIBLE.

14:24:07 WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE BUSINESSES TO MAINTAIN

14:24:11 ACCESS TO SCHEDULED DELIVERIES AND FOR THEIR PATRONS.

14:24:15 WE CONTINUE THEIR ONE ON ONE MEETINGS.

14:24:17 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS OUT THERE YESTERDAY ON A

14:24:23 JOBSITE, AND VALERIAN HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVES GOING

14:24:25 DOOR TO DOOR TALKING TO THE BUSINESSES.

14:24:28 CAN WE -- WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER.

14:24:29 WHAT CAN WE DO HERE.

14:24:34 SO ALL THOSE IMPACTED BUSINESSES, AND IN PARTICULAR, ON

14:24:38 CASS STREET, WE HAVE FIVE THAT ARE MIDBLOCK, THAT DON'T

14:24:41 HAVE ACCESS ON A NORTH-SOUTH STREET.

14:24:46 SO THOSE FIVE ARE THE MOST IMPACTED.

14:24:53 AND THAT INCLUDES RESTAURANT ON THE NORTH SIDE AND A

14:24:58 SIXTH RESTAURANT ON THE SOUTH SIDE CALLED NOHO JUNCTION

14:25:02 AND THEY DO HAVE ACCESS WITH THE NORTH-SOUTH STREET.

14:25:05 AND THEN WE CONTINUE PRESS RELEASES AND TRAFFIC

14:25:12 ADVISORIES AND ALERTS ARE POSTED ON THE PROJECT'S WEB

14:25:15 SITE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

14:25:17 WITH THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS

14:25:21 ON -- ON THE IMPACT HERE, I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.

14:25:26 >> COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:25:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FRED, YOU ARE A MESSENGER AND I

14:25:29 UNDERSTAND THAT.

14:25:32 CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR BUSINESSES FOR BEING IN OPERATION

14:25:35 FOR FIVE YEARS.

14:25:39 CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT CRITERIA THAT MAY BE ABLE TO

14:25:41 RECEIVE COMPENSATION.

14:25:43 WAS THERE ANY COMPENSATION.

14:25:46 ANY THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GREATLY EFFECTED THAT

14:25:52 HAVE NOT BEEN IN BUSINESS THOSE FIVE YEARS?

14:25:55 >> FOR DATE ONLY ONE CLAIM THROUGH THE RISK MANAGEMENT

14:25:59 DIVISION AND THAT CLAIM HAS NOT BEEN DENIED.

14:26:02 THAT BUSINESS HAS NOT BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR FIVE YEARS

14:26:06 AND JUST RECENTLY OPENED WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT.

14:26:11 >> RECENTLY OPEN OR SOLD -- SOLD TO A NEW BUSINESS

14:26:11 OWNER.

14:26:14 >> NO, IT WAS JUST RECENTLY OPENED AND JUST RECENTLY

14:26:16 CHANGED BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL.

14:26:22 THAT WAS THE CASS STREET.

14:26:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THERE ANY USE OF ALLEYWAY THAT'S

14:26:28 COULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES OUT TO

14:26:31 GET CLIENTS TO AND FROM?

14:26:33 AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE USE

14:26:35 OF ALLEYS.

14:26:38 WAS THERE -- WAS THERE ANY WAY OF MAYBE PUTTING THE

14:26:41 DETOUR SIGNS IN THERE.

14:26:43 ONE-WAY DETOURS.

14:26:47 AND THESE BUSINESSES COULD GET THEIR SUPPLIES.

14:26:49 >> SO THAT IS AN EXTREMELY GOOD QUESTION.

14:26:52 BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE OUT THERE YESTERDAY

14:26:53 TO DETERMINE.

14:26:57 THERE IS AN ALLEY THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH ON EITHER

14:27:01 END ONTO A NORTH SIDE OF CASS STREET BEHIND THOSE FIVE

14:27:06 BUSINESSES, BUT IT DOES HAVE NORTH-SOUTH ACCESS TO THE

14:27:06 ALLEY.

14:27:09 IT HAVEN'T BEEN USED IN A LONG TIME.

14:27:15 SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS LOOKING INTO PUTTING ROCK DOWN

14:27:21 ON THAT ALLEY THAT USED TO BE USED BY THE WAY FOR THOSE

14:27:22 FIVE BUSINESSES.

14:27:25 AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS NO REASON WE CAN'T USE THAT

14:27:28 ALLEY TO ACCESS TO THE BACK WHICH WILL PROVIDE HUGE

14:27:32 AMOUNT OF RELIEF TO THOSE FIVE BUSINESSES.

14:27:37 WE ARE ALSO TALKING TO ONE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT IS

14:27:37 OPEN.

14:27:40 JUST RECEIVED THEIR PERMIT TO REMODEL A BUILDING, TO

14:27:44 TURN IT INTO A PIZZA PLACE.

14:27:47 AND THEY -- THEY HAVE AN OPEN LOT THAT THEY ARE GOING

14:27:49 TO USE IN THE FUTURE FOR THEIR PARKING LOT.

14:27:52 SO WE ARE TALKING TO THAT OWNER ABOUT POSSIBLY USING

14:27:54 THAT LOT FOR THOSE FIVE BUSINESSES.

14:27:59 IF WE CAN DO THAT, IT WILL MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE

14:28:03 FOR THESE FIVE BUSINESSES, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID EARLIER,

14:28:07 THIS COULD BE CLOSED ALL THE WAY THROUGH JULY 1.

14:28:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A TOUGH HIT ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN

14:28:10 THAT AREA.

14:28:13 SEEING HOW THERE WAS ONLY ONE THAT DID NOT FIT THE

14:28:18 CRITERIA, ANY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHICH THE CITY

14:28:20 OF TAMPA HELPED THAT BUILDING?

14:28:23 >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

14:28:25 OH, I AM SORRY --

14:28:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION.

14:28:30 CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THAT ONE BUSINESS?

14:28:31 >> ONE BUSINESS?

14:28:33 NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

14:28:35 A BETTER QUESTION FOR RISK MANAGEMENT.

14:28:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CERTAIN SIGNAGE FOR THE ALLEYWAY

14:28:42 SAYING THE BUILDING IS THIS WAY?

14:28:43 >> ABSOLUTELY.

14:28:45 WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE ALLEY AND ALSO TODAY WE ARE

14:28:51 PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL -- VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS TO

14:28:56 PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DIRECTION TO THE BUSINESS -- FOR THE

14:28:57 BUSINESSES.

14:29:00 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

14:29:02 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:29:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

14:29:07 THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS IF YOU ARE JUST NOW GOING OUT

14:29:10 THERE TO ASSESS THE SITUATION, THEN SHAME ON US.

14:29:12 AND THE REASON I SAY THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING A

14:29:15 BUNCH OF CALLS IN REFERENCE TO THIS.

14:29:18 SO IF WE ARE GETTING A BUNCH OF CALLS AND THERE IS SOME

14:29:21 FIRM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ADVOCATING FOR THE

14:29:25 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A CONTRACT, AND I AM GETTING CALLS

14:29:28 FROM THESE BUSINESSES SAYING, WHAT'S GOING ON?

14:29:30 WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME?

14:29:32 WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE WORK?

14:29:36 THEN SOMEBODY DROPPING THE BALL SOMEWHERE.

14:29:40 >> COUNCILMAN, WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE 2018.

14:29:43 WE ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY.

14:29:47 AND WE HAVE BEEN GOING DOOR TO DOOR SINCE 2018.

14:29:50 WE HAVE A GREAT PRESENCE OUT THERE.

14:29:53 THIS SITUATION OF THE FIVE BUSINESSES THAT I KEEP

14:29:58 REFERRING TO HAS JUST -- WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING TO THE

14:30:01 POINT IN THE PROJECT, UNTIL THEN, WE HAVE BEEN EAST OF

14:30:02 WILLOW STREET.

14:30:05 SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

14:30:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DON'T

14:30:10 WANT THE RESIDENTS -- BEING A BUSINESS OWNER,

14:30:13 ESPECIALLY A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IS TOUGH AT TIMES.

14:30:17 AND IF YOU DON'T -- YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT AND YOU

14:30:19 HAVE GOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON THAT IS IMPACTING

14:30:24 THE BUSINESS, IT'S -- IT IS REALLY HARD.

14:30:27 I KNOW MY FAMILY OWNS A BUSINESS AND I KNOW AT TIMES.

14:30:30 IF SOMETHING IS SLOW AND CERTAIN THINGS HAPPEN.

14:30:33 I CAN IMAGINE THE BUSINESS OWNERS ON CASS.

14:30:35 YOU SAID ONE WAS DENIED.

14:30:39 AND WE NEED TO TALK TO RISK MANAGEMENT, BUT I THINK --

14:30:47 YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE REACTIVE.

14:30:51 INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE LIKE MR. DINGFELDER SAID EARLIER

14:30:52 ABOUT OTHER SITUATIONS.

14:30:55 IF WE HAVE BUSINESSES AND WE ARE DOING A PROJECT, WE

14:30:59 SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT MAY BE CAUSED TO THOSE

14:31:02 BUSINESSES AND HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AND NOT JUST SAY,

14:31:04 WE ARE GOING TO DENY PEOPLE.

14:31:08 A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST DENY PEOPLE JUST TO DENY, BUT

14:31:10 WHAT IS THE OTHER PLAN TO DENY.

14:31:12 I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

14:31:16 IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THAT IS LOSING MONEY BECAUSE WE

14:31:18 ARE DOING A NECESSARY PROJECT.

14:31:20 GOT TO BE SOMETHING IN THE PROJECT THAT WILL COMPENSATE

14:31:23 SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEY WILL SHUT

14:31:26 DOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN.

14:31:30 SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

14:31:32 AND MAKING SURE -- BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT

14:31:35 OF PROJECTS ON BOARD ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

14:31:38 IT MAY IMPACT A MOM AND POP PLACE.

14:31:42 AND -- YOU KNOW, THOSE MOM AND POP PLACES, THEY GO WEEK

14:31:43 TO WEEK SOMETIMES.

14:31:48 AND IF THEY ARE NOT MAKING THE REVENUE TO PAY THOSE

14:31:52 PEOPLE AND THE WORK FORCE, IT IS VERY, VERY DETRIMENTAL

14:31:54 TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.

14:31:56 I -- WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

14:32:01 I ASK THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE

14:32:04 CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE SO IT WON'T IMPACT THE

14:32:05 LITTLE GUY.

14:32:09 THAT WILL BE WHO GETS HURT, THE LITTLE GUY.

14:32:12 >> I WANT TO POINT OUT WE ARE EXTREMELY PROACTIVE IN

14:32:15 THAT REGARD AND THESE BUSINESSES HAVE ACCESS TO THIS

14:32:17 DAY TO THE PRIME.

14:32:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

14:32:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:32:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO QUESTIONS AND I AM NOT ASKING

14:32:24 YOU TO PLAY THE LAWYER, BRAD.

14:32:27 TO THE BEST OF YOUR RECOLLECTION.

14:32:35 IS THERE AN APPEALS PROCESS FOR -- FOR A BUSINESS?

14:32:37 YOU I DON'T WANT TO CALL HIM BY NAME.

14:32:39 THE BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN DENIED.

14:32:42 DOES THAT COME TO MIND OF THE ZONINGS AND STUFF, DO YOU

14:32:43 KNOW?

14:32:46 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS.

14:32:51 I AM GOING TO DEFER --

14:32:54 >> SEEMS LIKE EVERY GOVERNMENT DECISION HAS TO HAVE

14:32:58 SOME -- SOME RIGHT OF APPEAL TO GO SOMEWHERE.

14:33:00 >> ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

14:33:04 I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT

14:33:06 THAT FOR YOU.

14:33:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEND US A MEMO AND LET US KNOW.

14:33:11 AND CLEARLY, IF THERE IS A RIGHT OF APPEAL, AND

14:33:15 OBVIOUSLY THAT BUSINESS NEEDS TO KNOW ALSO IF IT IS

14:33:17 TIMELY.

14:33:20 MY OTHER QUESTION, BRAD, IS -- YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE

14:33:25 LEG THAT IS GOING TO GO UNDER HOWARD AND ARMENIA.

14:33:41 >> WHY DON'T WE PUT THE MAP BACK UP.

14:33:45 >> YES, WE WILL CROSS BOTH HOWARD AND ARMENIA, AND

14:33:51 THIS IS NOT A JACK AND -- THIS IS CROSSING -- THIS IS

14:33:52 AN OPEN CUT.

14:33:57 THESE ARE DOUBLE EIGHT-FOOT BY EIGHT-FOOT BOXES THAT

14:33:59 YOU CAN PRACTICALLY LIVE IN.

14:34:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU READ MY MINE.

14:34:03 HOPING THEY WERE JACK AND BOARD AND I UNDERSTAND THEY

14:34:04 ARE HUGE.

14:34:08 TWO BIG THE JACK AND BOARD AT LEAST ECONOMICALLY.

14:34:12 SO IF YOU WERE OPEN CUTTING.

14:34:13 WHAT DO YOU DO?

14:34:16 A LANE AT A TIME SO YOU DON'T DISRUPT TRAFFIC

14:34:17 ABNORMALLY?

14:34:20 BECAUSE IT SCARES THE HECK OUT OF ME THAT -- IF YOU

14:34:23 CLOSE ONE MORE THAN ONE LANE AT A TIME ON HOWARD AND

14:34:25 ARMENIA.

14:34:27 IT WILL BACK UP THE WHOLE WORLD.

14:34:31 >> THESE BOXES ARE SO LARGE IT WILL SHUT DOWN THE

14:34:37 INTERSECTION AND TRY TO MINIMIZE THE LENGTH OF TIME.

14:34:39 >> FOR HOW LONG --

14:34:41 >> I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON HOW LONG

14:34:46 THAT WILL BE.

14:34:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EIGHT FEET?

14:34:50 >> EIGHT FEET BY EIGHT FEET AND TWO OF THEM.

14:34:54 NOT TO MENTION THERE IS A 36-INCH WATER LINE AS WELL

14:34:55 NEXT TO IT.

14:34:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MASSIVE STORMWATER PIPES.

14:34:59 WOW, THAT KIND OF --

14:35:00 >> BIG.

14:35:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT JUST BIG, BUT ALSO THAT TRAFFIC

14:35:04 IMPACT.

14:35:07 I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE GOING TO REROUTE THEM AROUND

14:35:12 THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALL THAT MILITARY TRAFFIC THAT

14:35:14 RUNS UP A AND DOWN THERE AND THROUGH EVERYTHING ELSE.

14:35:17 >> THEY ARE SO BIG, THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, AND THE

14:35:24 SECTIONS ARE -- ARE I BELIEVE 20 FEET EACH.

14:35:28 SO YOU ARE NOT -- JUST TO SET THEM DOWN, YOU CAN'T DO

14:35:30 IT ONE LANE AT A TIME TO CROSS.

14:35:33 IT IS JUST PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

14:35:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO WAY TO GET SMALLER SECTIONS AND

14:35:40 DO LITTLE FIVE-FOOT INCREMENTS.

14:35:43 >> NOT IN CASE YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF

14:35:44 THE FLOODING.

14:35:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN FIVE-FOOT SECTIONS.

14:35:51 >> I WILL LOOK WHETHER WOODRUFF HAVE SPECIAL FABRICATED

14:35:56 SECTIONS GOING ACROSS HOWARD AND ARMENIA.

14:35:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WILL BE GOOD, THANK YOU.

14:36:02 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

14:36:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RISK MANAGEMENT -- HOW MANY HAVE RISK

14:36:07 MANAGEMENT.

14:36:08 >> THE ONE.

14:36:10 >> THAT'S ALL, JUST ONE?

14:36:10 >> CORRECT.

14:36:15 >> HOW MANY DID RISK MANAGEMENT GO TO ASKING IF THEY

14:36:16 NEED COMPENSATION?

14:36:18 >> THEY CAME TO US AND WE SHOWED THEM THE APPLICATION

14:36:21 PROCESS WHICH THEY DID.

14:36:27 THEY DID SUBMIT TOO RISK MANAGEMENT, AND IT WAS DENIED.

14:36:30 AT THIS POINT CLEAT ONES THAT I HAVE BEEN.

14:36:33 THE ONES I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAST.

14:36:39 YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHAT YOUR STANDARD BUSINESS REVENUE IS

14:36:43 AND SHOW WHAT YOUR DROP OFF IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO --

14:36:45 TO THE CONSTRUCTION.

14:36:48 AS YOUR DAMAGES.

14:36:52 AND THAT WAS NOT DEMONSTRATED.

14:36:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IT IS A STATEMENT, BUT ALL

14:37:01 SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE THE -- IT IS PROVEN THAT ALL

14:37:02 SMALL BUSINESSES.

14:37:05 IF YOU DON'T SUCCEED THE FIRST TWO OR THREE YEARS, YOU

14:37:06 ARE NOT GOING TO SUCCEED.

14:37:09 AND WHY THE CRITERIA SAYS FIVE YEARS BEING IN BUSINESS.

14:37:15 APPARENTLY THIS CRITERIA IN MY OPINION NEEDS TO BE

14:37:15 LOOKED INTO.

14:37:19 IF A NEW BUSINESS AND THE CITY COMES IN AND SAYS,

14:37:23 SORRY, WE ARE GOING TO TEAR UP YOUR FRONT DRIVEWAY,

14:37:24 THEY HAVE ALREADY LOST.

14:37:25 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

14:37:29 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE I INTRODUCE COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:37:32 I AM THE ONE THAT HAS TO PICK UP MY SON AND HAVE AN

14:37:36 APPRAISAL I HAVE TO GO TO ON MY HOUSE AND I APOLOGIZE

14:37:39 -- THIS IS VERY UNORTHODOX.

14:37:42 A MOTION FOR -- AND I WILL GIVE YOU THIS --

14:37:45 PRESENTATION BY ROBERT BLOUNT OF ABE BROWN MINISTRIES OF THE

14:37:50 ORGANIZATION OF WHAT TAMPA CAN TO DO OCCUR ON APRIL 2.

14:37:52 A MOTION.

14:37:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION UNDER CEREMONIAL ITEMS?

14:37:59 >> YES

14:37:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A PRESENTATION?

14:38:00 >> YES.

14:38:08 >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN VIERA AND SECOND.

14:38:12 >>LUIS VIERA: AND A CENTRAL FRIENDLY WORKROOM FOR

14:38:13 CHILDREN WITH AUTISM.

14:38:21 >> A MOTION FROM LUIS VIERA AND BY JOSEPH CITRO.

14:38:24 >>LUIS VIERA: AND PENGUIN PROJECT FOR OVER THE

14:38:26 WEEKEND.

14:38:27 ALL IN FAVOR.

14:38:29 >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.

14:38:32 EXCUSE ME.

14:38:35 >> THAT NEW TAMPA PLAYERS, YOU MET THEM YESTERDAY OR

14:38:37 THE DAY BEFORE, THE PROGRAM THEY HAVE GOING ON THIS

14:38:42 WEEKEND THEY SHOULD TRY TO ATTEND.

14:38:45 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BE THERE WITH MY FAMILY AND

14:38:46 ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO.

14:38:48 A REALLY GREAT THING.

14:38:51 ANYBODY -- AND I -- I APOLOGIZE.

14:38:51 ONE LAST THING.

14:38:54 THIS EVENING I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY AT THE AMERICAN

14:38:58 LEGION WILL BE DOING THE -- THE COMMENDATION THERE FOR

14:39:00 BILL HAMMOND.

14:39:04 THEY INVITED ME TO OCCUR -- I THINK TONIGHT AT 7:00.

14:39:07 BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO, PLEASE COME.

14:39:13 I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE FOLKS THERE.

14:39:15 >> LEAGUES 5, POST 5?

14:39:16 >>LUIS VIERA: APOLOGIZE.

14:39:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

14:39:19 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

14:39:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, GOES BACK TO MR. CITRO'S POINT

14:39:25 AND SMALL BUSINESS AND RISK MANAGEMENT.

14:39:27 THE GROUP THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE ADVOCATING

14:39:32 AND BEING PAID ON THE CONTRACT TO NOTIFY BUSINESSES AND

14:39:33 SO FORTH.

14:39:35 IF THAT IS THE CASE, MY THING IS WHY ARE THESE

14:39:39 BUSINESSES NOT TOLD ABOUT THE IMPACT RISK MANAGEMENT

14:39:42 THEY CAN BE APPLIED.

14:39:45 TO IF NUMBER TWO, MOST OF YOUR SMALL MOM AND POP

14:39:48 RESTAURANTS DON'T HAVE THE ATTORNEYS AND THE SKILL SET

14:39:52 AT TIMES TO FILL OUT ALL THIS STUFF AND IT SCARES THEM

14:39:54 AND NOW YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT ALL THE FINANCIALS THAT

14:39:57 THEY MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO DO AND UNDERSTAND AND IMPACT

14:39:58 AND CONSTRUCTION.

14:40:02 HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT -- I AM JUST A GUY THAT IS

14:40:04 TRYING TO MAKE TAMPA.

14:40:07 SEND SANDWICHES AND WHATEVER.

14:40:09 SO WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE, BUT WE HAVE TO BE THE

14:40:13 ONES TO ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHEN THERE IS

14:40:14 AN IMPACT.

14:40:17 SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE ARE TALKING

14:40:20 ABOUT IMPACTING PEOPLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP

14:40:22 PEEP AS FAR AS OUR ROADS AND WHATEVER.

14:40:25 BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE -- IF SOMETHING IN THOSE

14:40:28 CONTRACTS SAYING THIS IS FIRM AND SUPPOSED TO BE

14:40:31 ADVOCATING FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, THEY NEED TO ADVOCATE

14:40:34 THE RIGHT WAY AND HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION SO THOSE

14:40:36 PEOPLE CAN KNOW AND SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED.

14:40:39 IF YOU NEED HELP, YOU CAN HELP YOU.

14:40:43 GOING FORWARD, WE CAN PUT NEW POLICIES IN PLACE TO MAKE

14:40:44 SURE WE HELP THESE PEOPLE.

14:40:46 I THINK THAT IS NEEDED FROM WHAT I AM HEARING.

14:40:49 WHAT I AM SEEING.

14:40:54 >> WE DO PROVIDE THE SMALL AND ALL BUSINESSES WITH WHAT

14:41:02 THE PROCESS IS, YOU KNOW, TO APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE OR

14:41:06 FILE A CLAIM, I SHOULD SAY.

14:41:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM SURE YOU PROBABLY DO AND

14:41:11 PROBABLY THOSE BIGGER BUSINESSES THAT HAVE -- CERTAIN

14:41:14 PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT TO DO AND HOW THIS DO IT, BUT I

14:41:17 ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE LITTLE GUY WHO DON'T

14:41:19 REALLY KNOW TO KNOW BUT WANT TO KNOW.

14:41:23 SO I THINK -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING OUT

14:41:24 FOR THOSE -- THE LITTLE GUY.

14:41:26 THE BIG GUY THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE ATTORNEYS AND

14:41:28 KNOW, HEY, GET WITH THE CITY.

14:41:30 WE HAVE AN IMPACT, WHATEVER.

14:41:33 BUT THE LITTLE GUY DOESN'T REALLY KNOW THE TON.

14:41:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:41:35 ANYBODY ELSE?

14:41:36 NO.

14:41:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BAIRD.

14:41:42 MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 71.

14:41:48 >> ITEM NUMBER 71, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR.

14:41:49 THE SIX YEAR REPORT.

14:41:55 SIX YEARS -- APOLOGIZE, SIX-MONTH REPORT ASSOCIATED

14:42:02 WITH -- WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION TO REPORT ON.

14:42:05 OBVIOUSLY WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN THE PIPES PROGRAM

14:42:07 UNDER CONSTRUCTION YET.

14:42:11 AND MAY NOT AT THE SECOND SIX MONTHS REPORT.

14:42:13 WE CERTAINLY WILL ON THE THIRD.

14:42:18 BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION THAT

14:42:24 WE HAVE THREE MAJOR CONSULTANTS COMPETITIVE

14:42:28 NEGOTIATIONS ACT DESIGN TEAMS SELECTED.

14:42:32 ONE FOR EACH -- ONE FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT,

14:42:35 ONE FOR THE WATER PLANT, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE

14:42:40 INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TAMPA'S NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALSO BEEN

14:42:41 SELECTED.

14:42:45 AND SELECTED BY THE MAYOR.

14:42:52 AND THOSE THREE ALONE TOTAL UP TODAY 754 MILLION.

14:42:57 AND SO WE ARE ALREADY ROLLING IN TO PUTTING TOGETHER

14:43:00 AGREEMENT.

14:43:03 INITIAL AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE THREE TEAMS TO GET GOING

14:43:08 ON SURVEYING, DESIGN AND MAYBE SOME EARLY WORK AS WELL.

14:43:10 SO -- SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

14:43:15 WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT OUT ADDITIONAL RFQS

14:43:20 THINGS FOR PUMPING STATION, REHABILITATION.

14:43:25 AND SULPHUR SPRINGS, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.

14:43:28 CITYWIDE PUMPING STATION.

14:43:32 REHABILITATION FOR PUMPING STATIONS AND SEVERAL OTHERS

14:43:35 THAT ARE NOT PIPE RELATED AS WELL.

14:43:40 SO WE ARE -- WE ARE ALREADY CLOSING IN ON A BILLION

14:43:43 DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE MOVING

14:43:44 AHEAD WITH.

14:43:49 AND I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND YOU

14:43:51 THAT IN THE PIPES PRESENTATION, SIX MONTHS AGO, WE

14:43:58 TALKED ABOUT SOME CCNA SCORING CHANGES WITH REGARD TO

14:44:05 THE -- THE MB DO -- OR THE MBD OFFICE, AND ALSO A NEW

14:44:09 GRADING CATEGORY FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

14:44:16 WE INCREASE THE SCORING CRITERIA FOR I GUESS -- NOW

14:44:20 IT'S APRIL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IF I GOT THAT RIGHT.

14:44:23 MR. HART.

14:44:27 WITH INCREASING SCORING FROM 10 TO 20 POINTS.

14:44:30 AND I CAN TELL YOU THE COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY SEEN THAT

14:44:34 IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IF THE SHORT LISTED TEAMS

14:44:35 THAT WE ARE SEEING.

14:44:40 AND THEN THE NEW GRADING CATEGORY OF WORK FORCE

14:44:42 DEVELOPMENT WAS ADDED.

14:44:45 AND IN LINE WITH THE MAYOR'S INITIATIVE ON WORK FORCE

14:44:46 DEVELOPMENT.

14:44:50 AND THAT IS WORTH TEN POINTS.

14:44:55 AND SO AS QUICKLY THINGS WE ARE DOING TO MAXIMIZE WMBE

14:44:58 AND SLE INVOLVEMENT.

14:45:01 THE SELECTION PROCESS WILL EMPHASIZE BUSINESS

14:45:05 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FIRMS, WITH THE -- WITH A --

14:45:10 CERTIFIED BY THE CITY AND DESIGN SUBCONSULTANTS WILL BE

14:45:14 EMPHASIZED IN THE PRESUBMITTAL CONFERENCE, AND IN THE

14:45:16 CNNA PRESENTATION.

14:45:20 WE ARE ASKING A LOT MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOUR

14:45:22 PARTICIPATION ON THE DESIGN PHASE, NOT JUST THE

14:45:25 CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

14:45:31 AND THEN WE WILL MAXIMIZE SUBCONTRACTING WITH THE CITY.

14:45:35 AS I SAID BEFORE, WHAT THE CERTIFIED FIRMS AS PART OF

14:45:38 THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE NEGOTIATIONS.

14:45:40 AND THAT IS -- THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

14:45:44 WE CAN -- WE CAN JUST CONTINUE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL

14:45:47 WE ARE SATISFIED THAT WHAT YOU SAID IN THE

14:45:49 PRESENTATION, WHAT YOU SUBMITTED AS PART OF YOUR

14:45:53 PACKAGE, YOU ARE EITHER MEETING THAT OR UX SEEDING

14:45:53 THAT.

14:45:58 WE WILL HAVE JOINT LETTERS OF INTENT EXECUTED BY THE

14:46:01 PRIME CONTRACTOR AND SUBCONTRACTOR SURVEY AUDITS

14:46:04 CONDUCTED BY MR. HART'S OFFICE.

14:46:07 AND MR. HART'S OFFICE WILL TRACK EVERYTHING USING A

14:46:13 DIVERSITY MANAGEMENT COMPLIANT SYSTEM.

14:46:14 AND.

14:46:18 BEFORE I GET INTO LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ON THE WORK

14:46:22 FORCE DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AN

14:46:25 EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

14:46:31 JUST YESTERDAY ON THE DAVID L. TIPPEN WATER FACILITY

14:46:34 HIGH SERVICE PUMPING PROJECT.

14:46:36 WE HAD AN EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY WORKSHOP.

14:46:42 AND 60 TO 70 VENDORS ATTENDED THAT EVENT YESTERDAY.

14:46:44 60 AND 70 VENDORS.

14:46:45 HUGE SUCCESS.

14:46:48 IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

14:46:53 AND THEN FINALLY, THE MAXIMIZING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

14:46:55 YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE AND I WANT TO REPEAT IT.

14:46:58 IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM,

14:47:02 MENTORING, ON-THE-JOB TRAINING.

14:47:06 FOSTERING A STRONG AND TALENTED WORKFORCE IN TAMPA, TO

14:47:11 FINDING -- FINDING PATHWAYS THROUGH HIGHER EDUCATION.

14:47:14 TECHNICAL CERTIFICATION PROGRAMS.

14:47:15 >> IT CAREER READINESS.

14:47:18 WORK FORCE INCENTIVES.

14:47:21 CHAMPIONING LOCAL BUSINESSES, REMOVING BARRIERS TO

14:47:23 ACCESS.

14:47:30 AND THEN REALLY A FOCUS ON CONTRACTING TRADES,

14:47:34 ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURAL, GEOTECHNICAL AND PUBLIC

14:47:36 ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.

14:47:40 SO WE ARE SEEING IN THE PRESENTATION THE TEAMS GIVE THE

14:47:45 COMMITTEE, THEY ARE REALLY LASER FOCUSED ON MAKING THIS

14:47:49 WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THEIR OVERALL

14:47:50 PROGRAMS.

14:47:53 SO WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

14:47:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN

14:47:56 DINGFELDER.

14:47:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAVE TO GIVE PROPS FROM PEOPLE

14:47:59 WHO ARE WORKING.

14:48:03 AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS

14:48:05 SAYINGS, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING AND ALSO THE

14:48:08 BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS SAYING, BUT I STILL CONTEND WHEN

14:48:17 WE TALK THIS WEEK AND HE CONCURRED, I ALWAYS LOOK AT

14:48:20 PROTECTING THE HOUSE AND COMPLIANCE.

14:48:25 TELL MR. HART HE IS HERE, THAT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A

14:48:28 COMPLIANCE OFFICER TO MAKE HOUR PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE

14:48:30 DOING, THEY ARE DOING.

14:48:33 WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IS HERE AND IF WE HAVE NOBODY

14:48:38 MAKING SURE THE HOUSE IS BEING PROTECTED, WE GOT NO --

14:48:44 NO CONTROL SO I AM LOOKING TO MAKE SURE TO GET CONTROL

14:48:46 AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE SIGNING CONTRACTS AND GETTING OUR

14:48:50 DOLLARS, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING COMPLIANCE UNTIL WE CAN

14:48:53 SEE THAT THEY GOT THIS 20%.

14:48:55 THEY GOT IN THIS AND THAT.

14:48:57 AND THAT WE ARE HAVING THEM TO HAVE.

14:48:59 AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS BEING OCCURRING MAINLY

14:49:04 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT OR, THE KIND

14:49:06 OF MONEY WE ARE PUTTING BEHIND THESE EFFORTS, WE GOT TO

14:49:09 HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS IN CHARGE OF THAT TO MAKE SURE

14:49:13 INDEPENDENTLY WE ARE BEING DONE AND THE BEST BANG FOR

14:49:14 OUR BUCK.

14:49:16 I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER AND WE NEED TO GET

14:49:18 IT DONE.

14:49:18 >> WE DID.

14:49:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

14:49:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU MR. BAIRD.

14:49:27 JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I WANT TO START WITH THE

14:49:29 EASIER ONE.

14:49:34 ULTIMATELY YOU WILL BE BRINGING THOSE GUARANTEED GMPS

14:49:45 CONTRACT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL I WILL SUGGEST ONLY

14:49:49 ONE OF FOUR BUT WHEN THE TIME COMES I AM GOING TO

14:49:53 SUGGEST IT ANYWAY AND MIGHT AS WELL TELL THEM TO BE

14:49:59 PREPARED FOR IT OFFICER ABOUT TO AWARD THEM SOME PIECE

14:50:03 OF 200 MILLION, $300 MILLION CONTRACT.

14:50:07 IMAGINE DO IT INCREMENTALLY OVER THE YEARS AND EVEN $10

14:50:12 MILLION TODAY 15 MILLION WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY COME

14:50:14 TO COUNCIL WITH THEIR PRESENTATION, EACH ONE OF THEM

14:50:19 WITH THEIR WMBE PRESENTATION.

14:50:23 I AM NOT GOING TO DO IT BY MOTION, BUT I AM SURE THAT

14:50:27 YOU AND THE VENDORS WILL BE FINE WITH THAT.

14:50:33 MY SECOND ONE IS A LITTLE -- A LITTLE MORE TRICKY.

14:50:41 LITTLE TRICKIER AND SPOKE ABOUT IT DURING THE PIPES

14:50:42 DISCUSSION.

14:50:43 IS MR. HART BACK THERE?

14:50:44 THERE HE IS.

14:50:49 I CAN'T SEE HIM, BUT I KNOW THAT HIS GROUP LOST JUST

14:50:52 LIKE SO MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, GENERAL FUND

14:51:01 DEPARTMENTS LOST PEOPLE DURING THE RECESSION.

14:51:03 I DON'T THINK THEY GAINED THOSE FOLKS.

14:51:06 I HAVE A SENSE THEY DO MORE WITH LESS AND JUST UNDER A

14:51:10 DAY-TO-DAY CIRCUMSTANCE AND NOW HAVE PIPES AND WHAT WAS

14:51:14 THE OTHER ONE -- PIPES -- WE WILL LEAVE IT AT PIPES FOR

14:51:14 NOW.

14:51:25 >> TWO TREATMENT PLANTS.

14:51:27 PROJECT THAT INCLUDE MR. HART'S GROUP AND ADDITIONAL

14:51:32 WORK ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED WITH PIPES.

14:51:36 PIPES SINCE IT IS A LONG-TERM PROJECT 10 TO 20 YEARS,

14:51:45 CAN'T THEY HIRE ADDITIONAL WMBE FOLKS TO HELP OUT THE

14:51:48 WMBE PROGRAM.

14:51:51 I SHOULD PUT IT THIS WAY, HAVE YOU HIRED ADDITIONAL

14:51:55 FOLKS USING THE PIPES MONEY, AND IF NOT, DO YOU HAVE

14:51:59 ANY REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T OR COULDN'T?

14:52:02 >> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE OUT OF PIPES.

14:52:07 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER PIPES IS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

14:52:10 IF THIS CAN BE AN ANCILLARY PART OF THAT.

14:52:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT YOU ARE HIRING ADDITIONAL

14:52:16 ENGINEERS IN HOUSE?

14:52:18 >> WE ARE HIRING PR PEOPLE.

14:52:22 THIS WILL BE HIRING CITIES, EMPLOYEES USING CAPITAL

14:52:24 MONEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE DONE BUT I CAN

14:52:27 CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT.

14:52:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVEN IF IT IS NOT HIRING.

14:52:34 MAYBE IT IS CONTRACTING WITH SOME WMBE CONTRACTORS.

14:52:38 AND I AM SURE GREG PROBABLY KNOWS -- KNOWS MR. HART

14:52:45 KNOWS FOLKS OUT THERE.

14:52:46 >> LOOK INTO THAT.

14:52:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN ONLY ASK SO MUCH OF THAT

14:52:50 GROUP BEFORE SOMETHING STARTS GIVING.

14:52:52 AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.

14:52:54 WE WANT TO ALL TO IMPROVE.

14:52:58 LIKE I SAID ALL ALONG, NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BILLION

14:52:59 DOLLARS TO WORK WITH.

14:53:04 AND I AM NOT TRYING TO SPEND IT WILLY-NILLY.

14:53:08 BUT THING IS A VERY WORTHWHILE OPPORTUNITY DO SO.

14:53:11 >> WE WILL LOOK THANK IS THAT.

14:53:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, BRETT THE.

14:53:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?

14:53:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

14:53:20 >>BILL CARLSON: SOME OF THE LAST TWO PROJECTS.

14:53:27 AND YOU TALK ABOUT HIRING, AND THE MOTION THAT MY

14:53:31 COLLEAGUES APPROVED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CONSIDER

14:53:33 HIRING A COMMUNICATION STAFF, NOT ONE PERSON OR A

14:53:34 DEPARTMENT OR STAFF.

14:53:38 AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT $4 BILLION IN PROJECTS, THERE

14:53:41 POTENTIALLY COULD BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, MORE THAN

14:53:44 $1 MILLION A YEAR IN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

14:53:46 AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT KNOCKING

14:53:49 ON DOORS AND HANDING OUT FLYERS.

14:53:51 THAT CAN BE DONE BY STAFF.

14:53:55 SO MUCH GOING ON AROUND THE CITY AND MAKE MORE SENSE TO

14:53:57 HAVE CONSISTENCY.

14:54:01 DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T OUTSOURCE SOME OF IT BUT

14:54:04 THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE PEOPLE

14:54:07 AND NEED SOME INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY TO ADDRESS THESE

14:54:10 ISSUES AND THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO

14:54:12 HAVE A DEPTH OF INFORMATION NOT JUST SOMEBODY WHO IS

14:54:13 GIVEN A CRYPT.

14:54:16 SO ANYWAY, THAT WILL COME UP ANOTHER TIME.

14:54:20 AND JUST TO MAKE CLEAR, THE INTENT IS TO SAVE MONEY AND

14:54:23 HAVE MORE AUTHENTICITY WITH THE PUBLIC AND BE MORE

14:54:28 EFFECTIVE WITH THE PUBLIC WITH IN-HOUSE PEOPLE THAN

14:54:29 OUTSOURCE.

14:54:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

14:54:33 ANYBODY ELSE?

14:54:34 SEEING NONE?

14:54:35 ITEM NUMBER 72.

14:54:37 THANK YOU, SIR.

14:54:41 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY CHAIR, JAN MCCLEAN, OFFICE OF

14:54:42 THE CITY OF ATTORNEY.

14:54:46 I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 72 TODAY.

14:54:49 AND IN PREFACE TO MY REPORT, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU

14:54:53 AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE ACTIONS OR NONE ACTIONS THAT

14:54:58 ARE OCCURRING SINCE MY LAST PRESENTATION TO YOU ON THIS

14:54:59 SUBJECT.

14:55:02 ONE OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE TWO BILLS

14:55:04 WITHIN THE LEGISLATURE THAT WERE BEING CONSIDERED THAT

14:55:08 WOULD REPEAL THE PREEMPTION FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO

14:55:13 REGULATE SINGLE SOURCE PLASTICS AND PYROSTYRENE.

14:55:22 BOTH OF THOSE BILLS 673 AND WERE FILED.

14:55:24 REFERRED TO THREE COMMITTEES AND NEVER HEARD.

14:55:26 THEY ARE STILL SITTING UP IN THE LEGISLATURE AND GIVEN

14:55:30 IT ENDS NEXT WEEK, WOULD VENTURE TO REPORT THAT THEY

14:55:34 WOULD NOT BE PASSED.

14:55:38 THERE IS THE -- THE COURT CASE WITH REGARD TO CITY OF

14:55:46 CORAL GABLES ON WRIT OF CERT TO THE SUPREME COURT.

14:55:48 WE DON'T HAVE A DECISION ON THAT AT THIS TIME.

14:55:52 THE DIRECTOR OF THE MOTION THAT COUNCIL MADE WAS TO

14:55:56 APPEAR AND PRESENT A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT IS MODELLED

14:55:59 AFTER THE CITY OF ORLANDO AND POLICY THAT SAID

14:56:02 ORDINANCE IS IN THE CONSTRAINT WITH THE USE OF SINGLE

14:56:03 USE PLASTICS.

14:56:06 WHAT WE DO IN PREPARATION AND RESPONSE TO CITY

14:56:11 COUNCIL'S MOTION WAS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT BOTH THE

14:56:15 LEGISLATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE PORTIONS OF HOW WE CAN

14:56:18 IMPLEMENT WHAT THE CITY OF ORLANDO HAD DONE.

14:56:20 BECAUSE AS YOU RECALL, WHEN I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU

14:56:23 PREVIOUSLY, I WOULD EXPLAIN WHAT THE THINK OF ORLANDO

14:56:27 DID WAS THEY CONSTRAINED THEIR SINGLE USE PLASTICS

14:56:30 RESTRICTIONS TO CITY PROPERTY.

14:56:33 AND THEY ADOPTED IT BY POLICY, NOT BY ORDINANCE.

14:56:36 SO IT IS IMPLEMENTED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

14:56:41 AND I ALSO WITH MISS WYNN HAVE MET WITH A

14:56:45 REPRESENTATIVE -- MR. CHRISTIAN LEON HERE AT YOUR LAST

14:56:48 PRESENTATION WHO REPRESENTS -- AND I WANT TO GET THIS

14:56:53 ACCURATE, THE IS SUNCOAST RISE ABOVE COALITION.

14:56:55 HE WAS INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL.

14:56:59 HE HAS DONE A LOT OF OUTWORK AND OUTREACH TO

14:57:03 BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS AND HE SENT ME AN E-MAIL TODAY

14:57:06 THAT SAID HE IS MEETING WITH THE ORGANIZERS OF THE

14:57:09 GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL AND THE FLORIDA BLUE THIS

14:57:14 WEEKEND TO WHAT -- WHAT HE IS DOING IS LIKE YOU WHAT

14:57:17 JUST ARE TALK ABOUT.

14:57:21 AN OUTREACH AND LOOKING FOR VOLUNTARY POPULATION FOR

14:57:27 RESIDENTIAL OF THESE SINGLE USE PLASTICS THAT WE ARE

14:57:29 PREEMPTED FROM REGULATING.

14:57:31 SO IN RESPONSE.

14:57:35 THE -- AS YOU ALSO WELL KNOW, ONE THE MAYOR'S

14:57:42 INITIATIVES IS THE SUSTAINABILITY AND THE RESILIENCY

14:57:43 OFFICER.

14:57:46 MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BRINGING

14:57:48 SOMEONE ON BOARD TO DO THAT.

14:57:52 I AM NOT PRIVY OF WHAT THE TIMELINE IS, BUT IT IS NEAR,

14:57:56 AND AS PART OF THAT, WE WERE LOOKING AT EDUCATION

14:58:00 OUTREACH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH REGARD TO THE

14:58:04 BUSINESSES AND ESPECIALLY THE DISABLED COMMUNITY AS ONE

14:58:06 OF THE THINGS THAT MR. LEON HAD BROUGHT UP THAT THE

14:58:09 DISABLED COMMUNITY TO REPRESENTATIVES HAVE INDICATED IN

14:58:11 SOME OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

14:58:15 THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.

14:58:20 AND ALSO WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT MIGHT BE ON

14:58:20 REGULATION.

14:58:24 REGULATING THESE TYPE OF PRODUCTS AS FAR AS EVEN ON OUR

14:58:29 OWN PROPERTY, ON FOOD TRUCKS, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND THE

14:58:33 ECONOMIC IMPACT OF WHAT IT WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO

14:58:36 CONTRACTS THAT WE ALREADY ENTERED INTO.

14:58:42 AND FINALLY, BUT NOT -- NOT SO MINOR, ESPECIALLY IF YOU

14:58:45 WERE -- VERY INTERESTED IN FOOTBALL WITH THE SUPER BOWL

14:58:47 UPCOMING.

14:58:50 THERE WILL BE MAJOR EVENTS GOING ON AND MY

14:58:53 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NFL HAS A GREEN INITIATIVE.

14:58:56 AND SO TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I HAVEN'T HAD AN

14:59:01 OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR -- WHAT THEIR PROGRAM

14:59:04 IS AND HOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT RELATE TO WHAT WE WOULD

14:59:08 BE BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS HOW WE WOULD BE

14:59:14 IMPLEMENTING OUR SINGLE USE PLASTICS.

14:59:18 IN -- AND SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THIS ISSUE IN A

14:59:24 HOLISTIC MATTER AND TO ASK COUNCIL TO WAIT FOR THE

14:59:29 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY OFFICER TO HAVE THAT ON

14:59:31 BOARD AND TO HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED WITH THE COMMITTEE

14:59:34 TO BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL AS FAR AS

14:59:36 IMPLEMENTATION.

14:59:41 I DID LOOK AND DID PREPARE BUT NOT FOR CONSIDERATION OR

14:59:45 GOING FORWARD BECAUSE IT SIMPLY IS A PLACE HOLDER IS

14:59:54 WITH REGARD TO WHAT COULD BE ADOPTED LEGISLATIVELY AS

14:59:56 OWE PODDED TO ADMINISTRATIVELY.

14:59:59 AND WE ARE REALLY NOT AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE

15:00:04 OF THE -- WHAT THE INITIATIVE WOULD BE GOING FORWARD.

15:00:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:00:06 >> THANK YOU.

15:00:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:00:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I AM AGREEING WITH THIS

15:00:16 REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US TODAY.

15:00:19 TALLAHASSEE HAS PREEMPTED US ON SO MANY THINGS.

15:00:23 IF WE MOVE FORWARD ON SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE, I FEAR

15:00:26 WITHOUT HEARING FROM THE LEGISLATION, WE MIGHT BE

15:00:29 PREEMPTED AGAIN.

15:00:32 UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WANT TO

15:00:38 BRING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

15:00:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU NOT SAY THE ISSUES ARE

15:00:43 DEAD SINCE SESSION ENDS NEXT WEEK AND REALLY NOTHING

15:00:44 GOING ON THIS SESSION?

15:00:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TABLE THIS

15:00:51 DISCUSSION OR REVISIT THIS DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE DATE.

15:00:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

15:00:56 ANYBODY ELSE?

15:00:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE STAFF RETURN TO JUNE 4 FOR

15:01:05 PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION ON SINGLE-USE PLASTICS ON CITY

15:01:07 PROPERTY OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, EDUCATION ARE

15:01:10 RECOGNIZE GNOMIC EDUCATION, IMPACT, REVIEW AND SUCH

15:01:13 OTHER RESTRICTIONS AS REPORTED BY ANY LEGISLATIVE AND

15:01:17 LEGAL ACTION THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND SUCH OTHER RELEVANT

15:01:20 INFORMATION IS NECESSARY.

15:01:23 I AM ASKING FOR STAFF TO COME TO BACK ON JULY -- JUNE

15:01:23 4.

15:01:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

15:01:29 ANY DISCUSSION IN AYE.

15:01:30 THANK YOU.

15:01:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

15:01:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER 73.

15:01:43 >> YOU SAID ONLY FOUR DINGFELDER DING I AM JUST

15:01:43 TEASING.

15:01:46 GIVING YOU A HARD TIME.

15:01:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS DUNCAN.

15:01:53 >> JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.

15:01:55 I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU A REPORT THAT WE SUBMITTED

15:01:58 BASICALLY A MEMO.

15:02:02 WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR INFORMATION

15:02:03 REGARDING THAT MEMO.

15:02:07 A REQUEST OF CREATING A PARKING ENFORCEMENT DIVISION

15:02:10 THAT WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO DO THAT IF WE HAD ALL

15:02:13 KINDS OF MONEY AND OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO

15:02:18 IS TAKE AN INCREMENTAL STEP TOWARD THAT DESIRE AND

15:02:21 MAXIMIZE EXISTING RESOURCES FIRST TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF

15:02:25 CONCERN WHICH IS SOME EGREGIOUS PARKING SITUATIONS AND

15:02:28 PROBABLY SOME PARTICULAR AREAS AROUND THE CITY.

15:02:31 SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO FIRST, TAKE A NO COST APPROACH AT

15:02:32 THIS.

15:02:36 WE HAVE GOT 43 CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WE ARE

15:02:40 GOING TO START TRAINING AND CERTIFYING TO BE CAPABLE

15:02:46 AND PROPERLY INFORMED AND TRAINED TO DO PARKING

15:02:48 ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

15:02:51 WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO FOCUS ON PARTICULAR AREAS

15:02:54 STARTING OUT THAT WE KNOW ARE PROBLEMATIC.

15:02:58 AND SOME OF THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE

15:03:03 NONCODE SITUATIONS WITH BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOTS AND

15:03:07 SO FORTH, WE WANT TO GIVE A REAL ACCURATE TEMPLATE TO

15:03:10 OUR CODE OFFICERS OF WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, YOU

15:03:14 KNOW, APPROPRIATE CITATION SITUATION AND NOT GO

15:03:16 OVERBOARD WITH THE ENFORCEMENT.

15:03:21 AND SO, AS PART OF THAT TRAINING AND PARALLEL TO THAT.

15:03:23 WE HAVE OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WORKING ON MODIFYING

15:03:28 CHAPTER 19 OF OUR CODE TO ALLOW THIS CHANGE TO OCCUR

15:03:31 WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU VERY SOON.

15:03:37 AND WE ALSO HAD JUST SOMEWHAT COINCIDENTALLY THE

15:03:41 OPPORTUNITY FOR VIK BHIDE OUR NEW TRANSPORTATION AND

15:03:43 STORMWATER SERVICES, WE ARE CALLING OUR MOBILITY

15:03:46 DEPARTMENT, OUR DIRECTOR.

15:03:52 HE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH SOME RESIDENTS LAST NIGHT.

15:03:56 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I AM NOT SURE IF YOU WERE THERE?

15:03:57 I THINK YOU WERE THERE, YES.

15:04:00 AND HEAR FIRST HAND OF THAT PARTICULAR GROUP FROM THEIR

15:04:00 CONCERNS.

15:04:06 I SPOKEN TO STEVE MICHELLINI OF GETTING INPUT FROM HIS

15:04:09 CLIENTS, THE BUSINESSES ALONG THE HOWARD CORRIDOR TO

15:04:11 SEE WHAT ISSUES THEY ARE HAVING.

15:04:13 SO WOULD LIKE TO START OFF FIRST WITH THE MORE

15:04:17 PROBLEMATIC AREAS AS A PRIORITY.

15:04:19 BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS REALLY WHAT -- WHAT PROMPTED

15:04:23 THIS INTEREST IN THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT.

15:04:28 AND SO, AGAIN, IN PARALLEL WITH ALL THAT, WE ARE

15:04:32 WORKING ON HAVING A WEB PAGE FOR CITIZENS TO SHARE

15:04:35 THEIR PARKING ISSUE THAT'S WE HAVE.

15:04:37 OR TO ASK FOR A FORUM.

15:04:38 IT CAN BE SMALL.

15:04:43 IT CAN BE LARGER SCALE AND STAFF LIKELY VIK BHIDE AND

15:04:46 MYSELF WILL GO OUT AND HEAR FROM PEOPLE DIRECTLY.

15:04:49 BUT WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE SO WE CAN BE SPECIFIC WITH

15:04:53 TARGETING THOSE CODE ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES TO THE

15:04:55 PROBLEMS WE ARE HAVING.

15:04:59 SO THAT -- THAT IS A QUICK READER'S DIGEST OF OUR PLAN

15:05:00 OF ACTION.

15:05:02 IN THE MEANTIME OF THIS, THERE ARE TWO OTHER QUICK

15:05:02 THINGS.

15:05:10 ONE IS TPD HAS OFFERED TO BE -- OF ISSUE.

15:05:12 THE HYDE PARK AREA.

15:05:15 THE CORRIDOR TO DO ENFORCEMENT.

15:05:18 WHETHER THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT LAYER COMES ALONG.

15:05:22 WE WANT TO DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH AND SOME SOCIAL

15:05:25 MEDIA OUTREACH TO LET PEOPLE KNOW AND ENFORCEMENT IS

15:05:29 GOING TO BE MORE ENHANCED IN WHAT IT HAS BEEN.

15:05:33 IF PEOPLE START TO VOLUNTARILY DO THE RIGHT THING.

15:05:37 AND THEN ON THAT WEB PAGE, LIKE I SAID, IF PEOPLE WANT

15:05:39 TO COME CHAT WITH HIM TO HEAR FIRST HAND WHAT THEIR

15:05:44 ISSUES ARE, THEN WE CAN BE BETTER REACTIVE TO ADDRESS

15:05:44 THOSE ISSUES.

15:05:47 WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

15:05:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

15:05:54 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO YOU AND VIK AND CHIEF OF

15:05:56 STAFF AND LEGAL AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS.

15:05:58 THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN HEARING THE DRUMBEAT ON

15:05:59 FOR A LONG TIME.

15:06:01 AND IT IS CITY WIDE.

15:06:06 AND REALLY I THINK IT SHOULD BE UNDER THE HEADING OF

15:06:07 ENFORCING PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

15:06:09 BECAUSE I THINK OTHER THAN THE POLICE, THERE IS

15:06:11 ENFORCEMENT IN DOWNTOWN AND YBOR.

15:06:16 I WAS AT GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL ON -- ART FESTIVAL

15:06:18 ON SATURDAY -- SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.

15:06:21 AND FOR, LIKE, TEN BLOCKS -- BECAUSE THERE IS NO

15:06:24 PARKING -- VERY LITTLE PARKING.

15:06:26 PEOPLE WERE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE WEST.

15:06:29 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THAT.

15:06:30 THE POINT IS YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING.

15:06:31 THAT IS WEST TAMPA.

15:06:34 YOU SEE IT HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

15:06:36 AND A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

15:06:41 ONE IS, IF THIS IS AN INTERIM STEP TOWARD MAYBE

15:06:44 CREATING A LARGER PARKING DIVISION.

15:06:47 HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OTHER PARKING DIVISIONS?

15:06:52 ARE THEY TYPICALLY SELF-SUSTAINING AND SELF-FUNDING AND

15:06:55 WRITE THE TICKETS AND DO THEY USUALLY PAY FOR THE

15:06:55 STAFF?

15:07:00 >> I DON'T HAVE A CHANCE PERSONALLY TO RESEARCH THAT.

15:07:03 AND SELL CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THERE COULD

15:07:08 BE A MORE SUSTAINABLE SITUATION WHERE THE CITATIONS ARE

15:07:10 SUPPORTING THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST OF THE PROGRAM.

15:07:13 HAVING YOU LOOK INTO MORE OF THIS.

15:07:15 >> JUST FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING.

15:07:18 PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IN THE

15:07:19 DRIVEWAY.

15:07:23 PARK IN FRONT OF DRIVEWAYS AND FIRE HYDRANTS.

15:07:25 SOMEONE SAID THEY HAD TO BRING AN AMBULANCE IN FOR

15:07:30 THEIR PARTNER, AND -- YOU KNOW, IT WILL -- WILL

15:07:33 AMBULANCES NOT BE ABLE TO GET IN SOME TIME?

15:07:36 SOMEBODY THIS MORNING MENTIONED NOT TO TURN RIGHT OR

15:07:39 LEFT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PARKED TOO CLOSE TO STOP SIGNS.

15:07:40 OBVIOUS THINGS.

15:07:43 NOT JUST KIND OF MINOR COMPLAINTS.

15:07:46 THE OTHER QUESTION RELATED TO THAT AND LAST NIGHT IN

15:07:48 PARTICULAR WITHOUT MENTIONING NAMES, THERE IS ONE AREA

15:07:51 WHERE THERE IS A RESTAURANT THAT HAS BEEN A RESTAURANT

15:07:54 FOR A LONG TIME AND IN THE OLD DAYS, THEY DIDN'T NEED

15:07:56 MUCH PARKING BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD JUST GO TO THE

15:07:57 RESTAURANT.

15:08:01 NOWADAYS, A LOT OF RESTAURANT HAVE TAKEOUT.

15:08:04 THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR HAS A TAKEOUT.

15:08:08 A NEW PHENOMENON UBER EATS AND ALL THEIR COMPETITORS

15:08:12 AND CREATES SEVERAL HUNDRED CAR THAT'S PARK FIVE OR TEN

15:08:15 MINUTES ILLEGALLY AND ALLEGEDLY GET OUT.

15:08:18 ANYTHING WE COULD CHANGE OF ENFORCEMENT AND PARKING

15:08:21 RULES AND GUIDELINES OF THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE OF THE

15:08:23 NEW PHENOMENON?

15:08:24 >> I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION YOU ARE REFERRING

15:08:25 TO.

15:08:27 WE HAVE DO HAVE A PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL

15:08:30 GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF TO THAT SITUATION.

15:08:33 IT WILL ALSO BETTER MARK THE ROADWAYS AROUND THAT

15:08:38 PARTICULAR LOCATION WHERE RIGHT NOW.

15:08:41 WHEN CARS SEE A SEA OF ASPHALT THEY FEEL LIKE IT IS A

15:08:42 FREE FOR ALL.

15:08:44 THAT IS THE BEHAVIOR.

15:08:49 PEOPLE ARE NOT FOLLOWING USUAL PROTOCOL BECAUSE THE

15:08:51 STRIPE SOMETHING NOT THERE TO REMIND THEM WHERE TO

15:08:51 PARK.

15:08:53 THAT WILL GIVE SOME RELIEF.

15:08:56 WE WANT TO COUPLE THAT WITH TARGETED ENFORCEMENT OF

15:08:57 THESE PARTICULAR AREAS.

15:09:01 ONCE THE ENFORCEMENT MESSAGE GETS OUT THERE, WE FEEL

15:09:05 LIKE THERE WOULD BE MORE AVAILABILITY FOR PARKING AS

15:09:08 PEOPLE MAKE BETTER CHOICES OF HOW THEY ARE GOING TO GET

15:09:10 AND PARK AT THE RESTAURANT.

15:09:12 I THINK BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE RUN IN AND RUN

15:09:15 OUT, THEY FIGURE MY CHANCES OF GETTING A TICKET ARE

15:09:19 SMALL BECAUSE I WILL BE OUT OF HERE SOON.

15:09:20 THEY COME IN AND GO.

15:09:24 THE NEXT PERSON COMES IN AND GOES AND FOR THOSE WHO

15:09:27 LIVE THERE, THEY SEE A CONSTANT SET OF CAR THAT'S WILL

15:09:29 BE A PROBLEM.

15:09:31 >>BILL CARLSON: I WON'T ASK FOR A MOTION ON THIS BUT

15:09:32 TALK OFF-LINE.

15:09:35 CERTAIN DISTRICTS LIKE SOUTH HOWARD, YBOR.

15:09:37 THE BUSINESSES HAVE COME TOGETHER AND LOOKED AT WHERE

15:09:42 THERE WOULD BE UBER STOPS OR COMPETITORS TO UBER.

15:09:47 AND THIS FOOD DELIVERY ISSUE SEEMS TO BE CREATING A LOT

15:09:50 OF ISSUES THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN EVER EXISTED BEFORE.

15:09:53 AND WONDER ANYTHING ELSE THE CITY HAS DONE TO ADDRESS

15:09:55 THAT.

15:09:56 >> JUST VERY QUICKLY.

15:09:58 IT IS ALSO IN THE MEMO THAT WE HAVE A MICRO MOBILITY

15:10:00 MASTER PLAN.

15:10:03 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A LARGE ZONE AROUND THE DOWNTOWN

15:10:06 CORE WITH THE -- WITH THE STUDY.

15:10:10 WHICH IS BASICALLY A PLAN TO IDENTIFY OPTIMAL LOCATIONS

15:10:18 FOR SCOOTER CORRALS, UBER LIFT DROP-OFF.

15:10:22 FREIGHT DROP-OFFS OR BETTER TRY TO MANAGE THE

15:10:25 RIGHT-OF-WAYS WE OWN OUT HERE FOR THESE TYPE OF

15:10:29 PURPOSES TO HAVE A BETTER UTILIZATION OF THAT AND THOSE

15:10:29 COMPLAINTS.

15:10:31 SO WE THINK THAT WILL ALSO BE HELPFUL.

15:10:34 AND TRYING TO STRIKE IT FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES TO

15:10:37 ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

15:10:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:10:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YBOR -- YBOR PROPER HAS A BIG PROBLEM

15:10:48 WITH PARKING OF DELIVERY OF TRUCKS, FOOD, BEVERAGE,

15:10:49 THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

15:10:51 YOU CAN INCLUDE THOSE.

15:10:55 ARE YOU LEAVING AFTER THIS AGENDA ITEM?

15:10:58 >> I WAS GOING TO, BUT I CAN STAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME

15:10:59 TOO.

15:11:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I JUST WANT TO AGAIN CONGRATULATE YOU

15:11:05 ON THE AWARD YOU RECEIVED THE OTHER DAY.

15:11:05 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:11:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THAT FOR

15:11:10 SOME COUNCILMEMBERS OR SOME PEOPLE WHO DID NOT KNOW

15:11:11 ABOUT THAT?

15:11:14 >> YES, I WAS SO HONORED TO RECEIVE THE JUSTINE

15:11:18 STAFFORD AWARD AT THE WOMEN'S HISTORY EVENT.

15:11:20 AND I THANK ALL OF THOSE OF HOW WERE THERE.

15:11:23 MR. CARLSON, YOU HAD TO STAND UP FROM THE BACK.

15:11:26 SO THAT REALLY MEANT A LOT.

15:11:29 >>BILL CARLSON: A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE

15:11:31 GOT TO SEE YOU GET THE REWARD.

15:11:33 >> HONOR THAT WOULD YOU STAND UP DURING THE WHOLE

15:11:34 THING.

15:11:37 IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID WE GET TO

15:11:41 HEAR OUR MAYOR HAVE -- OUR DIGNITARIES SUCH AS OURSELF

15:11:46 BUT TO HEAR PAT FRANK TO SPEAK FOR ME WAS A PARTICULAR

15:11:50 MOMENT BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE TIMES TO GET TO

15:11:56 HEAR HER IN SUCH A SHORT DISTANCE FROM ME TO SPEAK.

15:11:57 SHE IS FASCINATING.

15:12:00 THE WOMEN COMMITTEE HAS DONE AN AWESOME JOB AND

15:12:08 APPRECIATE THEIR WORK AND I WILL TRY TO LIVE UP THAT

15:12:12 JOSEPHINE STAFFORD.

15:12:14 >> YOU DESERVE THIS AWARD AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING

15:12:16 DID YOU FOR THE CITY.

15:12:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES THEN COUNCILMAN

15:12:20 DINGFELDER.

15:12:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN WE TRY TO FIX

15:12:26 A PROBLEM, WE DON'T FIX ALL OF THE PROBLEM.

15:12:28 AND I AM GOING TO BE CANDID THAT THE PARKING DIVISION,

15:12:31 I HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY CALLS AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE

15:12:33 PARKING DIVISION.

15:12:36 I SUBMITTED SOME STUFF TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.

15:12:39 I ALSO -- I MET MRS. GRIMES.

15:12:44 I KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT SOME ISSUES WITH -- WITH

15:12:48 SOME ORDINANCES THAT MIGHT BE COMING FORTH SOON,

15:12:51 REPRESENTED TO THE DRIVER LICENSE SITUATIONS, AND WHEN

15:12:54 I SEE MORE ENFORCEMENT, THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE

15:12:56 WE HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM IN PLACE WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO

15:13:00 DISPUTE THE ENFORCEMENT, AND I GET -- HEARING ALL THE

15:13:03 TIME THAT WHEN THEY GO TO THESE HEARINGS, THEY CAN'T

15:13:05 SET COURT DATES.

15:13:07 THEY HAVE ALL THESE KIND OF ISSUES.

15:13:10 WHEN WE TRY TO INCREASE THE ENFORCEMENT, THAT WE HAVE A

15:13:14 MECHANISM IN PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO THERE, SIGN UP TO

15:13:18 GET WHATEVER FUNDS THEY GOT TO GET OR PAY, AND THAT

15:13:20 THEY ARE NOT FRUSTRATED WITH.

15:13:23 YOU GET A TICKET, YOU GO RIGHT TO THE COURTHOUSE.

15:13:24 GO TO THE WINDOW.

15:13:27 TELL THEM YOUR NAME, BUT THEY TELL ME THE PROCESS OVER

15:13:29 HERE IS VERY HAVE VERY DIFFICULT.

15:13:32 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE

15:13:36 ENFORCEMENT, THAT WE GOT A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO GET

15:13:39 GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT.

15:13:40 PAY THEIR FINES.

15:13:41 DISPUTE THEIR FINES.

15:13:42 WHATEVER.

15:13:43 >> I APPRECIATE THAT FEED.

15:13:43 BACK.

15:13:46 THE PARKING DIVISION IS NOW PART OF THE MOBILITY

15:13:47 DEPARTMENT.

15:13:50 SO WE HAVE HAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS

15:13:50 NOW.

15:13:53 SO WE ARE HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT

15:13:55 WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.

15:13:58 AND HAPPY TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO DO

15:14:05 THINGS BETTER AND KEEP MORE COMPREHENSIVELY, BAKING IN

15:14:06 THE TRANSPORTATION PART OF THING AS WELL.

15:14:08 PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION IS OBVIOUSLY CLOSELY

15:14:09 ALIGNED.

15:14:13 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME BE AWARE OF THAT.

15:14:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:14:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS.

15:14:18 YEAH, ON A LIGHTER NOTE.

15:14:21 JEAN, I WANT TO ECHO JOE'S COMMENTS.

15:14:26 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON THE STAFFORD AWARD.

15:14:30 MISS STAFFORD WAS AN AMAZING LADY AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW

15:14:34 IN HER FOOTSTEPS ARE EQUALLY FANTASTIC.

15:14:39 AND -- AND IN REGARD -- IN REGARD TO THAT, I WAS JUST

15:14:41 THINKING TO MYSELF OVER THE 30 SOME YEARS THAT I HAVE

15:14:45 BEEN EITHER INVOLVED OR WATCHING CITY GOVERNMENT, I

15:14:49 THINK YOU ARE THE HIGHEST FEMALE STAFF PERSON THAT I

15:14:51 CAN RECALL.

15:14:52 IN YOUR RECENT PROMOTION.

15:14:54 YOU ARE WELL DESERVED.

15:14:57 >> I KNOW THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS PRETTY HIGH.

15:14:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, BUT WITH ALL -- I AM TALKING

15:15:00 ABOUT OVER THERE.

15:15:05 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WITH GINA AND JULIA WHO -- WHO --

15:15:08 WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE HAD THEM AS CITY ATTORNEYS, BUT IN

15:15:11 TERMS OF THE ACTUAL ADMINISTRATION, I THINK YOU ARE THE

15:15:16 HIGHEST -- WE HAVE HAD TWO -- COUPLE OF WOMEN MAYORS,

15:15:22 SANDY, PAM, AND NOW THE THIRD -- THE THIRD WOMEN MAYOR

15:15:25 IN TERMS OF THE STAFF, YOU HAVE NOW -- YOU HAVE NOW

15:15:30 RISEN -- YES, WE HAVE, BUT JEAN --

15:15:33 >> YOU PROBABLY ARE THINKING PUBLIC WORKS.

15:15:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JEAN SOME HOW WAS A TOP DOG.

15:15:39 >> SHE IS A TOP DOG TOO.

15:15:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM SORRY.

15:15:42 AI APOLOGIZED.

15:15:43 I MISSED THAT.

15:15:47 >> THE REASON YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IS THE CHART

15:15:48 HAVEN'T COME OUT YET.

15:15:49 YOU WILL BE GETTING THAT TODAY.

15:15:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS MY EXCUSE.

15:15:55 >> IF YOU HAD THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE BETTER INFORMATION.

15:15:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVE MY APOLOGY TWO DAYS IN A

15:15:59 ROW.

15:16:05 BUT ANYWAY WE HAD -- LAST WEEK CARMEGEDDON WITH REGARD

15:16:07 TO THAT CSX MESS.

15:16:12 THANK GOODNESS WE GOT THROUGH IT WITHOUT ANY HORRIFIC

15:16:14 LIFE-THREATENING INJURIES THAT I WAS MADE AWARE OF AND

15:16:17 WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT AND WE GOT

15:16:19 THROUGH IT AND I KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

15:16:22 >> THEY ARE COMING BACK, BUT WE WILL BE BETTER PREPARED

15:16:23 WHEN THEY COME BACK.

15:16:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S HOPE -- LET'S HOPE WHEN THEY

15:16:29 COME BACK, THEY DON'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE.

15:16:33 >> THE NEXT LIST HAS HOWARD AVENUE, DALE MABRY,

15:16:34 KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

15:16:39 A LITTLE -- YES, SO WE ARE -- WE ARE MEETING AND READY

15:16:43 TO BE AS PREPARED AS WE CAN TO GET THOSE AT THE TOP OF

15:16:45 THE ORGANIZATION AT CSX TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE

15:16:50 RESPONSIBLE, REASONABLE AND CONSIDERATE OF THE

15:16:51 SITUATION.

15:16:54 >> IF THEY CAN STAGGER IT AND DO ONE OR MORE AT A TIME

15:16:56 THAT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE.

15:17:00 WHEN THEY DO KENNEDY THAT WILL BE A MESS IN ITSELF.

15:17:03 I ASSUME THEY HAVEN'T DONE KENNEDY YET.

15:17:05 BUT ANYWAY, HAND IN HAND WITH THAT.

15:17:08 WERE YOU HERE A MINUTE AGO WHEN BRAD WAS TALKING ABOUT

15:17:12 THE HOWARD ARMENIA THING AND HIM CLOSING THINGS OFF.

15:17:15 WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOW DEPARTMENTS.NEED TO WORK

15:17:17 CLOSER TOGETHER.

15:17:22 AND, YOU KNOW, YOU AND VIK NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH

15:17:26 NOT JUST IN TERMS OF REROUTING TRAFFIC AND TO SEE THERE

15:17:29 IS A FEASIBILITY ALTERNATIVE TO LEAVE -- TO LEAVE A

15:17:33 LANE OPEN ON HOWARD OR ARMENIA WHEN THEY ARE DOING THAT

15:17:33 DIG.

15:17:34 SO --

15:17:40 >> AND THE TIMING OF THAT HAPPENS, TOO, IS SENSITIVE.

15:17:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST SENT MR. BENNETT A NOTE

15:17:48 ABOUT THAT AND ALSO BRAD, TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE WORKING

15:17:52 24-7 THROUGH THE WEEKEND DURING THAT DIG SO MAYBE IT

15:17:57 DOESN'T HAVE THE -- YOU KNOW, THE HORRIFIC IMPACT THAT

15:17:58 IS OTHERWISE WOULD.

15:18:02 HOW MANY TRIPS A DAY ON THE HOWARD ARMENIA CORE.

15:18:05 IT MUST BE -- EASILY IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS.

15:18:09 >> YES, PROBABLY -- I AM GUESS BEING 30,000.

15:18:10 SOMEWHERE IN THAT REALM.

15:18:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PRETTY BIG.

15:18:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:18:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOING TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKING

15:18:29 CITATIONS.

15:18:32 >> MAYBE LEGAL WILL HELP US OUT WITH THAT SUGGESTION.

15:18:33 BUT WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.

15:18:36 AND GET BACK TO YOU.

15:18:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:18:38 >> SURE.

15:18:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

15:18:43 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

15:18:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 94.

15:18:51 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

15:18:55 OCEA WYNN, NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

15:18:58 YOU ASKED STAFF TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TO REPORT ON

15:19:02 T.H.A.N., THE TAMPA HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OF

15:19:05 NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE DECLINE IN THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

15:19:09 WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO DO IS HOLD A SOCIAL OR A

15:19:12 GATHERING FOR T.H.A.N. WHERE WE WILL INVITE ALL OF THE

15:19:17 NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND

15:19:23 INPUT ON THE INVOLVEMENT OR LACK THERE OF T.H.A.N.

15:19:25 WE ARE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS OF THIS.

15:19:29 AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE SOCIAL TO OCCUR SOME TIME

15:19:32 BETWEEN APRIL AND MAY.

15:19:35 WE DID NOT RUSH WITH DOING THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO

15:19:40 GET AS MANY OF THE PRESIDENTS PARTICIPATING AS

15:19:40 POSSIBLE.

15:19:42 BUT WE WANTED TO NOTICE.

15:19:44 GIVE THEM ENOUGH COMMUNICATION IN TERMS OF THE MEETING,

15:19:49 WHAT TO EXPECT, AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF

15:19:50 THEIR INPUT TO US.

15:19:54 AND SO WE WILL KNOW WHAT DIRECTION TO TAKE.

15:19:57 SO I DON'T -- I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

15:20:00 >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.

15:20:03 COUNCILMAN GUDES?.

15:20:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO THANK MARAY FOR COMING TO

15:20:09 THAT LAST T.H.A.N. MEETING.

15:20:16 I WENT -- MR. SHELBY AND COUNCILMAN CITRO WAS THERE AND

15:20:18 WE WERE IN THE SUNSHINE LAW.

15:20:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S CORRECT.

15:20:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO WEEKS.

15:20:23 >> SOMETHING LIKE THAT TWO WEEKS AGO.

15:20:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE OBSERVED.

15:20:28 IT IS JUST LIKE I THOUGHT.

15:20:31 WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT OUR SENIORS.

15:20:32 THEY ARE GOING ON.

15:20:36 AND WE GOT TO HAVE NEW BLOOD PUMPING A LITTLE BIT AND

15:20:39 WE SAW THAT THE OTHER NIGHT AND WE WENT, AND I -- I

15:20:43 KIND OF MENTION THAT, I AM GLAD THAT STAFF PICKED UP ON

15:20:43 THAT.

15:20:46 MORAY PICKED UP ON THAT AND A GREAT IDEA MOVING FORWARD

15:20:52 GETTING EVERYONE WHO IS NEW, BECAUSE -- IT DOES CHANGE

15:20:53 YEAR TO YEAR.

15:20:56 AND A GOOD THING TO GO THE ROUTE WE ARE GETTING TO GET

15:20:59 EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND GET THESE NEW IDEAS PUMPING.

15:21:01 AND WILL PROBABLY WORK AT ALL.

15:21:04 THE WHOLE -- IT WILL BE WORKED OUT IF YOU DO THAT AND

15:21:07 YOUNGER PEOPLE ON THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD.

15:21:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

15:21:11 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

15:21:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

15:21:14 I AGREE.

15:21:17 I THINK IT IS GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A SOCIAL.

15:21:20 I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS WHO

15:21:23 AREN'T AFFAIR OF T.H.A.N. AND ITS GREAT HISTORY.

15:21:27 MARGARET VIZZI AND JERRY, REST IN PEACE.

15:21:32 AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT WHO -- WHO PUT IN SO MANY YEARS

15:21:34 DEDICATED TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

15:21:38 BUT IT DEFINITELY NEED REINVIGORATION.

15:21:42 AND WE SAW THAT LAST SPRING WHEN MANY OF US WERE

15:21:44 CAMPAIGNING AND WENT AND VISITED WITH THEM.

15:21:50 PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU LET COUNCIL KNOW AS FAR AS

15:21:53 ADVANCE IF POSSIBLE SO IF IT IS A SOCIAL AND WE HAVE AN

15:21:57 OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AND MAYBE EVEN LET THEM KNOW

15:22:00 THAT -- SOME OF THEIR COUNCILMEMBERS WILL BE THERE.

15:22:02 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE DISCOURAGING OR

15:22:05 ENCOURAGING IN TERMS OF PARTICIPATION.

15:22:09 ALSO I KNOW WE CAN'T PROVIDE ANY BOOZE OR ANYTHING, BUT

15:22:10 MAYBE FOOD.

15:22:13 FOOD IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING TO GET PEOPLE THERE.

15:22:17 SO ANYWAY, MY TWO CENTS.

15:22:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:22:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

15:22:22 >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF THINGS.

15:22:26 ONE IS BECAUSE THE MAYOR, ADMINISTRATION AND CITY

15:22:29 COUNCIL IS PRO NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE

15:22:30 ACTIVISM.

15:22:35 AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T THAT WAY BEFORE TO -- THE WAY IT

15:22:36 IS NOW.

15:22:41 YOU ALL KNOW I HAVE THIS PROGRAM CAFE CON TAMPA.

15:22:45 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WERE FRUSTRATED AND

15:22:50 CHANGED THE NAME FROM HISTORIC HYDE PARK TO CAFE

15:22:53 CON TAMPA, BECAUSE SO MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS

15:22:54 COMING IN.

15:22:58 A DEMAND AND EVERY FRIDAY, BIG CROWD.

15:22:59 THEY ARE INTERESTED.

15:23:01 THEY ARE LOOKING TO GET INVOLVED.

15:23:04 THEY ARE LOOKING FOR CAPACITY BUILDING, AND WE JUST

15:23:06 NEED THE RIGHT PROGRAMMING TO HELP THEM.

15:23:09 AND I THINK TO CONTINUE THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO

15:23:12 HELP THEM AND WORK WITH THEM ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE

15:23:15 IMPORTANT TO THEM.

15:23:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:23:20 I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING T.H.A.N. MEETINGS FOR ABOUT TEN

15:23:25 YEARS, MANY OF PEOPLE HAVE PASSED AWAY, STEVE LABOR,

15:23:29 JERRY FRANKHAUSER, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS SOUTH OF

15:23:31 GANDY, IF YOU REMEMBER HIM.

15:23:33 HE PASSED AWAY.

15:23:35 >> AL STEIN.

15:23:39 >> VICKY PALIET.

15:23:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOW, HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED OVER THE

15:23:42 LAST TEN YEARS.

15:23:45 I SERVED AS NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD

15:23:46 ASSOCIATION.

15:23:48 AND I WAS THERE EVERY MONTH FOR THEIR MEETINGS.

15:23:51 BUT WHEN I WAS LAST IN ATTENDANCE, I BELIEVE IT WAS

15:23:54 LAST YEAR AT UNION STATION, YOU KNOW WE SAT -- IT WAS

15:23:56 JUST A CANDID CONVERSATION.

15:24:00 HOW WILL THIS GROUP CONTINUE FORWARD.

15:24:03 IT WAS -- WELL YOU ARE YOUNG AND WHY DON'T YOU DO AND

15:24:06 WHY DON'T DO YOU THIS AND THE CAPACITY OF THE COUNCIL

15:24:07 MEMBER AND HAPPY TO HELP.

15:24:11 WHY ABOUT YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOU ARE YOUNG AND YOU

15:24:15 KNOW AND YOU DO THESE THINGS.

15:24:19 COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS CAFE CON TAMPA.

15:24:22 AND NOT LIKE T.H.A.N., NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION

15:24:25 PRESIDENTS, BUT A GENERAL -- HUGE TURNOUT OF PEOPLE.

15:24:28 SOMETIMES -- MANY TIMES IT IS STANDING ROOM ONLY.

15:24:30 THEY BRING GREAT SPEAKERS.

15:24:33 BRING PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE.

15:24:36 PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED AND MAKE IT TO THE OXFORD

15:24:39 EXCHANGE WHICH IS NOT AN EASIEST PLACE TO PARK.

15:24:42 THEY CHARGE A REASONABLE AMOUNT BUT GET A BREAKFAST

15:24:44 BUFFET AND COFFEE.

15:24:45 EVERYTHING IS DONE RIGHT.

15:24:49 THE POINT IS, IT IS SUCCESSFUL, SUCCESSFUL WEEK AFTER

15:24:49 WEEK.

15:24:53 I HAVE BEGUN GOING OUT THERE AND HANGING OUTSIDE THERE

15:24:57 FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND EVEN THE OLD LOCATIONS A HUGOS.

15:25:00 IT WAS FULL OF PEOPLE.

15:25:02 AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE GUEST SPEAKER SEVERAL

15:25:05 TIMES, BUT COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HE UNDERSTANDS

15:25:06 MARKETING.

15:25:10 HIS CAFE CON TAMPA PROVES THAT HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS

15:25:13 DOING, AND PERHAPS LOOKING AT THAT BUSINESS MODEL AND

15:25:17 APPLYING IT TO T.H.A.N., WHETHER WE DO A SOCIAL OR

15:25:20 WHATEVER IT IS, HE IS DOING SOMETHING RIGHT BECAUSE

15:25:22 PEOPLE EVERY WEEK WHY ATTENDING AND THE CROWDS ARE

15:25:23 GOOD.

15:25:24 MY TWO CENTS.

15:25:26 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

15:25:27 SEEING NONE.

15:25:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:25:29 WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.

15:25:31 ON ANOTHER NOTE BECAUSE JEAN DUNCAN WAS HERE AND YOU

15:25:32 ARE HERE.

15:25:36 YESTERDAY I HAD LUNCH WITH A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FROM

15:25:36 ST. PETERSBURG.

15:25:41 SHE SHADE SELF A MAJORITY WOMEN COUNCIL.

15:25:42 HERE WE HAVE ALL MEN.

15:25:45 AND I TOLD HER IN POSITIONS OF POWER AND AUTHORITY

15:25:47 HIGHER UP, WE HAVE YOURSELF.

15:25:49 WE HAVE JEAN DUNCAN.

15:25:51 OUR SENIOR ATTORNEY GINA GRIMES.

15:25:53 WE HAVE OUR MAYOR.

15:25:56 SHE ASKED WHAT IS IT LIKE TO WORK WITH SO MANY WOMEN IN

15:25:57 POWER.

15:25:58 I SAID IT IS WONDERFUL.

15:25:59 THINGS FLOW WELL.

15:26:00 YOU WORK HARD.

15:26:00 WE TRUST YOU.

15:26:03 WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FROM THE MAYOR'S

15:26:03 OFFICE DOWN.

15:26:05 EVERYBODY THAT IS HERE.

15:26:09 YOU KNOW, THE WORLD IS DIFFERENT FROM 50 YEARS AGO,

15:26:13 FROM 20 YEARS AGO TO NOW, BUT WE SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL THE

15:26:15 CITY IS AND THANKS TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND EVERYONE IN

15:26:18 THIS AUDIENCE AND MISS DUNCAN AND THE MAYOR AND WHAT

15:26:18 NOT.

15:26:21 WANT TO LET YOU KNOW A CONVERSATION I HAD YESTERDAY.

15:26:22 ACTUALLY THINGS ARE GREAT.

15:26:24 SO WE APPRECIATE YOU.

15:26:25 THANK YOU.

15:26:25 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

15:26:27 THANK YOU FOR THAT.

15:26:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 75, MR. SHELBY.

15:26:36 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DISTRIBUTED TO YOU FOUR OPTIONS.

15:26:39 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FEBRUARY 6 IN

15:26:42 RESPONSE TO A MEMO FROM CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT

15:26:45 DATED FEBRUARY 28.

15:26:47 HE GAVE COUNCIL FOUR OPTIONS.

15:26:51 WHAT HE ASKED FOR AT THE TIME WAS EIGHT HOURS OF

15:26:51 COUNCIL'S TIME.

15:26:55 AND HE PROVIDED FOUR WAYS OF ACCOMPLISHING THAT.

15:26:59 AND ON FEBRUARY 6, CITY COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT

15:27:05 HIS OPTION TWO, WHICH ARE FOUR TWO-HOUR SESSIONS IN THE

15:27:09 MONTHS OF MARCH, APRIL, MAY AND JUNE TO COINCIDE WITH

15:27:14 THE CURRENT WORKSHOPS AND THE SESSIONS BE SET AT A TIME

15:27:17 CERTAIN OF 10 A.M. GO BEGINNING MARCH 26 WHICH IS THE

15:27:19 MARCH WORK SHOP.

15:27:22 I ASK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDARS IN FRONT OF YOU AND

15:27:25 I MENTION THIS WHEN WE MADE THE MOTION, I BELIEVE, LAST

15:27:25 WEEK.

15:27:31 AND BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT MARCH 26, YOU HAVE INCLUDING

15:27:36 THE COMMENDATION ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX,

15:27:40 SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, 11 ITEMS INCLUDING THE

15:27:42 TWO-HOUR WORKSHOP.

15:27:44 CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE A YOU COMMITMENT TO THE

15:27:48 ADMINISTRATION THAT AT 10:00 ON A WORKSHOP DAY, THEY

15:27:50 WILL GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION TWO HOURS.

15:27:54 THE ADMINISTRATION HAS GIVEN THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY

15:27:57 WILL TAKE THOSE TWO HOURS AND COUNCIL WILL BE DONE WITH

15:28:00 THE WORKSHOP BY NOON.

15:28:07 AND, OF COURSE, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, PREVIOUSLY MADE

15:28:11 MOTION OF CITY COUNCIL, SETTING WORKSHOPS FOR THAT

15:28:11 MORNING.

15:28:15 NOW I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE VERY QUICKLY FOR YOU.

15:28:18 YOU HAVE COMMENDATION FOR POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.

15:28:24 AND THEN A COMMENDATION FOR MARLON ANDERSON, 9:00.

15:28:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 26TH.

15:28:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 26TH OF MARCH.

15:28:32 THEN YOU HAVE A 9:00 REPORT FOR REAL ESTATE DIVISION

15:28:35 AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR A DETAILED REPORT ON LAND

15:28:38 BANKING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE POSSIBILITY OF

15:28:41 CREATING AN ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION.

15:28:46 NOW, THE TWO -- MARCH IS THE MOST NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS.

15:28:50 APRIL, WE STILL HAVE TO WORK WITH -- BUT WHEN WE GET

15:28:53 WITH MAY OR JUNE, WE ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

15:28:56 AND LOOKING AT THIS, THE FIRST THING TO DO IS TO LOOK

15:28:59 AT YOUR COMMENDATIONS.

15:29:02 HOW MUCH TIME WILL YOUR COMMENDATIONS TAKE, AND

15:29:07 SUBTRACT THAT TIME UP UNTIL 10:00, BECAUSE I BELIEVE

15:29:10 COUNCIL'S COMMITMENT IS TO BE READY TO HEAR THE

15:29:11 ADMINISTRATION AT 10:00.

15:29:16 BECAUSE IF YOU GO INTO 10:15, 10:30, 10:45, YOU WILL

15:29:21 HAVE SITTING THERE AND NOT BEING OUT AT NOON AT THE

15:29:24 TIME THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE OUT OF THESE CHAMBERS.

15:29:28 THAT BEING SAID, WHAT COUNCIL CAN DO IS KEEP THE

15:29:32 COMMENDATIONS AND CHOOSE WHAT THEY DO UNTIL A DROP-DEAD

15:29:35 TIME OF 10:00 AND TAKE UP ADMINISTRATION.

15:29:39 TOWARD THAT END I HAVE GIVEN FOUR OPTIONS TO CONSIDER.

15:29:42 A WRITTEN REPORT IN LIEU OF A WORK SHOP.

15:29:45 YOU CAN RESCHEDULE THE OTHER WORKSHOPS AS A STAFF

15:29:47 REPORT LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES ON A LATER RECOGNIZE

15:29:50 MEETING AGENDA WITH FEW STAFF REPORTS.

15:29:53 MIND YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP ADDING THE STAFF REPORTS TO

15:29:55 SAY MARCH OR APRIL, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY FILLING

15:29:56 UP.

15:29:57 YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALENDAR.

15:30:01 RESCHEDULE THE WORK SHOP TO 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON ON A

15:30:05 WORKSHOP DAY, IN OTHER WORDS, CREATE AN AFTERNOON

15:30:05 SESSION.

15:30:08 BUT I ASK THAT YOU BE ADVISED TO CLEAR YOUR CONFLICTS

15:30:12 SO YOU CAN BE IN ATTENDANCE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU WERE

15:30:13 THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.

15:30:15 A QUORUM IS REQUIRED.

15:30:18 THINGS IF YOU CHOOSE TO SET THEM, PLEASE BE COGNIZANT

15:30:22 TO THE FACT YOU ARE ASKING STAFF TO APPEAR AND IF

15:30:25 COUNCIL IS NOT PREPARED TO BE PREPARED AT 1:30.

15:30:28 THEN MY RECOMMENDATION IS DON'T SET IT.

15:30:30 BUT IF YOU DO, YOU MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO THE

15:30:33 ADMINISTRATION YOU WILL BE THERE HEAR THE PRESENTATION

15:30:33 AT 1:30.

15:30:37 THE OTHER OPTION -- THE LAST OPTION TO RESCHEDULE THE

15:30:42 ITEM TO WORK SHOPS IN JULY AND BEYOND, AND FOR THAT

15:30:46 PURPOSE, YOU REFER TO THE COUNCIL'S CALENDAR TO MANAGE

15:30:50 THE NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS FOR THOSE MONTHS.

15:30:53 AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW IS A TASK TO CLEAR

15:30:56 YOUR MARCH AND APRIL TO THE TWO-HOUR --

15:31:00 >> MR. SHELBY, ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

15:31:04 YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THE TOPICS LAND BANKING, AND I CAN

15:31:08 TELL THAT YOU IS A TOPIC STUDIED BY THE HOUSING

15:31:11 AFFORDABILITY TEAM AND TRYING TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO

15:31:14 THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND

15:31:16 OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIALS TIFFS.

15:31:19 THAT MAY BE A TOPIC THAT COULD BE EITHER REMOVED FROM

15:31:23 THE AGENDA OR DELAYED SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT

15:31:26 IS BEING STUDIED ALREADY BY THE --

15:31:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT THE DELAYED.

15:31:30 DELAYED TIME.

15:31:32 WHAT THE TIME FRAME?

15:31:34 >> MY POINT IS IT IS ALREADY BEING STUDIED BY STAFF IN

15:31:37 ORDER TO DETERMINE HOW IT CAN BECOME PART OF THE

15:31:41 AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.

15:31:45 SO IT MAY THAT BE WE DON'T EVEN NEED AN AGENDA ITEM

15:31:48 RIGHT NOW, AND WE CAN JUST -- WHEN WE HAVE SOME

15:31:51 INITIATIVES TO REPORT ON, WE CAN TELL YOU HOW THAT IS

15:31:54 BEING INCORPORATED INTO THOSE INITIATIVES.

15:31:57 >> SO IF YOU LIKE IF YOU MAY MAKE THE SUGGESTION.

15:31:58 IF THAT IS THE CASE.

15:32:01 IF WOULD YOU LIKE AN UPDATE FOR THAT YOU CAN REQUEST A

15:32:04 LESS THAN FIVE-MINUTE STAFF REPORT OR A WRITTEN REPORT

15:32:08 AT SOME POINT IN TIME AT A LATER DATE AND HAVE IT

15:32:11 BROUGHT BACK TO THE AGENDA OR CHOOSE A DATE UNDER THE

15:32:13 OTHER OPTIONS.

15:32:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE IS SAYING THEY ARE REVIEWING IT.

15:32:16 THE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED.

15:32:19 I DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH PUSHING IT BACK, BUT I WANT TO

15:32:23 MAKE SURE WHEN IT DOES COME BACK YOU WILL ASK QUESTION

15:32:25 BECAUSE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT POLICIES THEY ARE TRYING

15:32:29 TO TAKE PLACE VERSUS AN ORDINANCE.

15:32:30 TALK ABOUT POLICY AND ORDINANCE.

15:32:33 WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN THAT COMES BACK WE HAVE A CHANCE

15:32:34 TO DISCUSS THAT.

15:32:36 YOU CAN GET ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION COME IN AND SAY WE

15:32:38 ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT ANYMORE.

15:32:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION.

15:32:44 AGAIN THESE ARE SUGGESTIONS AND COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE,

15:32:45 WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

15:32:48 YOU CAN ASK MISS ZELMAN HOW LONG THE ADMINISTRATION

15:32:52 NEEDS TO COME BACK WITH A WRITTEN REPORT, A BRIEF ONE,

15:32:56 AND COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHEN TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA A

15:32:58 WORKSHOP OR STAFF REPORT.

15:33:02 >> WITHOUT GIVING AN OFF-THE-CUFF REPORT NOW.

15:33:09 THE CONCEPT OF LAND BANKING IS SIMPLY THE CITY USING

15:33:13 THE TOOLS HAVE THE ACQUIRE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY WE

15:33:15 ALREADY HAVE, SURPLUS PROPERTY.

15:33:19 PROPERTY WE ACQUIRE THROUGH FORECLOSURE AND HAVING THAT

15:33:22 FOR THEN LATER IDENTIFIED PURPOSE.

15:33:26 AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING NOW AS -- AT USING SOME

15:33:29 OF THE CITIES CURRENTLY BANKED AND FUTURE BANKED

15:33:34 PROPERTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PURPOSES.

15:33:38 SO I AM NOT SURE -- HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU CAN

15:33:40 GIVE COUNCIL AN UPDATE?

15:33:42 >> I THINK WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THOSE

15:33:46 INITIATIVES THIS SUMMER, I THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

15:33:50 PUSHING IT OFF UNTIL.

15:33:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT A MOTION TO DEAL WITH A LOT

15:33:55 OF THESE AT ONCE.

15:33:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:34:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH REGARD TO MARCH 26, I DON'T

15:34:03 KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING PRESSING WITH REGARD TO

15:34:06 MARLON ANDERSON.

15:34:09 >> THAT CAN TAKE JUST FIVE MINUTES FRANKLY.

15:34:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEAVE MARLON ALONE.

15:34:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT MONTH.

15:34:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEAVE MARLON ALONE AND WITH REGARD

15:34:26 TO THE FOLLOWING ITEM, THE LAND BANKING WORKSHOP, THE,

15:34:30 THE WORKSHOP THAT STARTS CAN CAROL POST AND SPEAKS TO

15:34:30 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

15:34:36 >> JUST A SUBSTANTIAL SUBSTANTIVE PROJECT.

15:34:41 THOSE TWO AND THE URBAN VILLAGES OF MY MOTION.

15:34:46 AND -- AND ALSO THE -- THE NEXT ONE WHICH IS FLOODING

15:34:50 AND EVACUATION SOUTH OF GANDY WHICH SHOULDN'T BE

15:34:54 DEALING WITH -- WITH THE LITIGATION ANYWAY.

15:34:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW DO YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH IT?

15:34:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOING TO LUMP THEM ALL

15:35:00 TOGETHER IN ONE SECOND.

15:35:05 AND FINALLY, THE 10:30 ONE WHICH IS CODE ENFORCEMENT.

15:35:09 AND I WILL PROPOSE MOVING ALL THOSE TO THE JULY

15:35:11 WORKSHOP.

15:35:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN'T BE DONE, SIR.

15:35:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT?

15:35:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN'T BE DONE.

15:35:18 ARE YOU GOING TO GO INTO THE AFTERNOON THAT DAY.

15:35:21 THE FIRST THREE THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY SAID I BELIEVE

15:35:24 UNTIL THE 30TH OF JULY ARE VERY SUBSTANTIVE IN-DEPTH

15:35:28 MATTERS RECORDING PLANNING AND ZONING.

15:35:28 THE QUESTION OFF THIS.

15:35:35 I CAN SEE YOU ADDING ONE OR TWO, PERHAPS TO -- TO JULY,

15:35:38 MAYBE ONE, BUT ALL OF THEM?

15:35:39 NO, SIR.

15:35:40 NOT REALISTIC.

15:35:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS EVERYBODY -- I MEAN, I -- I GUESS

15:35:45 -- I LOOK AT NUMBER THREE.

15:35:47 WE TALK ABOUT THESE ITEMS.

15:35:51 NUMBER THREE -- THURSDAY IS OUR DAY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF

15:35:53 ANYONE IS ABLE TO --

15:35:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TAKE MY TENTATIVE MOTION AND MOVE

15:35:59 THEM ALL INTO AUGUST WHICH RIGHT NOW IS VIRTUALLY

15:36:05 EMPTY.

15:36:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

15:36:13 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:36:19 ON MY CALENDAR I BLOCK OUT ALL DAY ON THURSDAY.

15:36:21 >> HERE IS THE ISSUE WITH WORKSHOPS AND SOMEWHERE DOWN

15:36:25 THE LINE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A DAY LIKE TODAY, WE ARE

15:36:28 NOW LET'S SAY 3:30 AND WE START THIS MORNING.

15:36:31 THAT IS WELL AND GOOD BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE END OF THE

15:36:31 DAY.

15:36:34 WHEN YOU ARE IN A WORKSHOP DAY OR CRA DAY, JUST

15:36:39 REMEMBER AT 5:01 P.M., YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE A WHOLE

15:36:42 NIGHT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS LET'S SAY ON

15:36:44 MARCH 26.

15:36:51 YOU HAVE SEVEN PLAN AMENDMENTS AND THREE SU2S.

15:36:54 SO IT'S -- AND THAT MAY CHANGE OVER TIME.

15:36:56 I THINK THAT IS PRETTY FULL.

15:36:59 JUST A REMINDER -- AND THERE HAVE BEEN A TIME

15:37:03 PREVIOUSLY TO THE GREAT RECESSION IN 2008, THAT CITY

15:37:07 COUNCIL WOULD START AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING AND MAYBE IF

15:37:10 THEY WERE LUCKY TAKE A BREAK FROM 5 TO 6 AND WORK UNTIL

15:37:12 11:00 AT NIGHT.

15:37:16 AND SO --

15:37:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MY MOTION IS TO MOVE THOSE THAT

15:37:21 I JUST IDENTIFIED --

15:37:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO AUGUST?

15:37:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO THE AUGUST DATE.

15:37:27 THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT NONE OF THEM ARE PRESSING

15:37:31 THAT I CAN SEE.

15:37:36 AND LEAVE -- LEAVE THEM AT THE TIME THAT THEY ARE

15:37:39 SPOKEN TO ALREADY.

15:37:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

15:37:42 DINGFELDER.

15:37:43 A SECOND?

15:37:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

15:37:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION.

15:37:48 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

15:37:50 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY FROM A COMMUNICATION POINT

15:37:54 OF VIEW, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE -- ANYONE SHOULD EVER

15:37:58 GIVE A TWO-HOUR PRESENTATION ON ANYTHING.

15:38:01 MAYBE AN ATTORNEY PRESENTING IN COURT, BUT IT IS NOT --

15:38:03 IT IS NOT EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION TO PRESENT FOR TWO

15:38:06 HOURS.

15:38:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS GIVE AND TAKE AND NOT

15:38:10 STRAIGHT PRESENTATION.

15:38:12 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST -- I SUGGEST

15:38:15 THESE ONLY BE AN HOUR AND THE PRESENTATION NOT BE MORE

15:38:22 THAN 15 MINUTES AND THE REST OF IT Q & A.

15:38:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE OTHER VARIABLE.

15:38:25 >>BILL CARLSON: OTHERWISE THE PRESENTATION FILMS THE

15:38:26 TIME.

15:38:32 A LOT OF VARIABLES AND EVERYBODY WILL NEED TO BE

15:38:35 CONCISE AND POWERPOINT AFTER POWERPOINT AFTER

15:38:40 POWERPOINT AND IT WON'T BE IMPACT.

15:38:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS A TIME THAT CITY COUNCIL SET

15:38:45 THIS FOR TIME CERTAIN AND AS AN HOUR.

15:38:48 WHAT COMPLICATED THAT, COUNCIL STARTED TO ALLOWING

15:38:51 PUBLIC COMMENT AT WORKSHOPS.

15:38:54 AND THERE WAS A TIME PUBLIC COMMENT WAS NOT TAKEN ON

15:38:57 WORKSHOP DAYS AND NEIGHBORHOODS CAME IN AND ASKED THAT

15:39:00 WE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO

15:39:04 HEAR WHAT STAFF HAS TO SAY BEFORE WE COMMENT AND BEFORE

15:39:06 YOU MAKE ANY MOTIONS TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT

15:39:06 IT.

15:39:10 THAT IS THE BIG VARIABLE WITH WORKSHOPS NOW, YOU DON'T

15:39:12 KNOW HOW FULL THIS ROOM IS GOING TO BE ON ANY

15:39:13 PARTICULAR ISSUE.

15:39:16 FOR INSTANCE, DISCUSSION AS YOU SAY -- IF YOU LOOK AT

15:39:18 THE APRIL DATE ON THE SAME DAY YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION

15:39:23 OF THE ISSUE OF SUL VERY SPRINGS AND THE ISSUE OFFER

15:39:26 BAYSHORE, ALL IN ONE DAY.

15:39:28 HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ALONE WILL BE

15:39:30 HERE ON EACH OF THOSE ISSUES.

15:39:34 AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONTEMPLATE

15:39:38 WHEN THEY SET THESE WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE TIME MANAGEMENT.

15:39:41 IT IS VERY HARD FOR STAFF OR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHEN

15:39:45 YOU SET SOMETHING FOR 9:00 OR 10:30, WHEN ULTIMATELY

15:39:47 WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

15:39:51 AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME COUNCIL CHOOSES TO REORDER

15:39:54 THEM, ALL CONCEPT WHERE THEY ARE IN THE AGENDA IS OUT

15:40:00 THE WINDOW, AND YOU END UP HAVING STAFF AND PUBLIC

15:40:00 THERE.

15:40:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY WORKSHOPS --

15:40:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:40:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ADMINISTRATION IS REQUESTING --

15:40:14 THE ADMINISTRATION IS REQUESTING EIGHT-HOUR WORKSHOPS.

15:40:16 EIGHT HOURS OF PRESENTATION AND QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

15:40:18 AND INTERACTION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IS MY

15:40:19 UNDERSTANDING.

15:40:21 BUT EIGHT HOURS.

15:40:22 COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED WITH FOUR OPTIONS.

15:40:26 I WAS OUT SICK ON FEBRUARY 6, AND COUNCIL DECIDED TO

15:40:29 ADD FOUR TWO-HOUR SESSIONS.

15:40:34 RATHER THAN -- HERE IS WHAT HIS OPTIONS, FOUR TWO-HOUR

15:40:37 SPECIAL CALL SECTIONS ON SEPARATE DAYS AND THE OPTION

15:40:41 TWO, WAS IN THE CURRENT SCHEDULE OF WORKSHOPS OR TWO

15:40:45 FOUR-HOUR SPECIAL CALL SESSIONS IN MARCH AND APRIL AND

15:40:48 IN ALL ONE DAY FOUR HOURS BEFORE LUNCH AND AFTER LUNCH.

15:40:51 ANY OTHER OPTION WITH A TOTAL OF EIGHT HOURS AND

15:40:53 COUNCIL SETTLED ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE AND WE HAD TO

15:40:59 CLEAR -- CITY COUNCIL HAS A CLEAR ITS CALENDAR TO CLEAR

15:41:00 ITS MOTION.

15:41:03 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:41:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE

15:41:10 SAYING AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT -- JUST TO HEAR ONE

15:41:13 DEPARTMENT HEAD DRONE ON TWO STRAIGHT WITH POWER

15:41:13 POINTS.

15:41:14 I AGREE WITH YOU.

15:41:16 IT DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH A WHOLE LOT.

15:41:20 THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT FROM MR. BENNETT WAS -- LET'S

15:41:22 SAY IN THE ENTIRE EIGHT HOURS.

15:41:27 LET'S SAY WE HAVE 16 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR SUB

15:41:28 DEPARTMENTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

15:41:31 THAT IS A HALF HOUR EACH.

15:41:32 THAT IS NOT A WHOLE LOT.

15:41:36 AND PART OF THE REASON THAT JOHN BENNETT EXPLAINED TO

15:41:40 ME WAS -- AND MAYBE HE SAID IT ALL OF COUNCIL, NOT ONLY

15:41:44 DID HE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS NOW AT THIS PLACE

15:41:50 BECAUSE SOME OF US ARE NEW OR RETREADS, BUT ALSO

15:41:55 BECAUSE IT IS SORT OF WILL LEAD INTO THE BUDGE PROCESS.

15:41:58 SO THIS WILL GIFT DEPARTMENTS A GOOD, LET'S SAY, A HALF

15:42:02 HOUR TO 45 MINUTES EACH TO BE ABLE TO REALLY SAY THIS

15:42:06 IS WHAT WE DO AND THIS IS WHY WE DO IT AND THAT SORT OF

15:42:09 THING AS SORT OF THE PREBUDGET PROCESS.

15:42:11 I THINK IT IS TIME WELL SPENT.

15:42:14 AND I THINK WE SHOULD ACCOMMODATE IT FRANKLY.

15:42:17 AND LIKE I SAID, THESE OTHER ITEMS ARE IMPORTANT AND

15:42:18 THEY ARE NOT AS TIME SENSITIVE.

15:42:23 AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY MOTION PASSED A MINUTE AGO.

15:42:27 >> SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND --

15:42:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE MISJUDGED THIS.

15:42:32 I LOOK AT -- IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION

15:42:36 COMING TO US ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THESE DIFFERENT

15:42:40 DEPARTMENTS, TO ME, THESE ARE COUNCIL DAYS FOR DOING

15:42:45 THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL DAYS ON THURSDAY

15:42:48 MAYBE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN -- THIS IS MY OPINION, A

15:42:51 COUPLE OF SPECIAL MEETING DAYS THAT ARE NOT ON COUNCIL

15:42:54 DAYS THAT WE CAN REALLY SIT AND DISSECT WHAT THEY ARE

15:42:56 SAYING, WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

15:42:59 TO JUST GO TO A MEETING AND WE SAY A FEW MINUTES HERE

15:43:03 AND THERE, ARE WE REALLY GETTING THE FULL IMPACT ON

15:43:06 LOOKING AT THE ITEMS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE NEW

15:43:08 BUDGET, THE PROCESS OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

15:43:13 I FEEL THAT NOW LOOKING AT ALL THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ON

15:43:16 A NONCOUNCIL DAY WITH A SPECIAL -- SPECIAL MEETING AND

15:43:19 REFERENCE TO THE ADMINISTRATION REQUEST TO GO OVER ALL

15:43:21 OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND ADMINISTRATION IN REFERENCE

15:43:23 TO THE BUDGET.

15:43:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN.

15:43:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:43:31 AND WE HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATION AND SEEING CHANGES

15:43:37 DONE EVERY DAY, WHETHER BE A NEW CODE -- A NEW CRA

15:43:37 HEAD.

15:43:40 WE ARE SEEING A NEW ECONOMIC HEAD.

15:43:45 WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT A NEW RESILIENCY OFFICER AND

15:43:47 SEEING THESE CHANGES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

15:43:49 I THINK THAT IS NECESSARY.

15:43:51 NOW YOU ARE TALKING, MR. GUDES.

15:43:55 I PERSONALLY FEEL THIS SHOULD BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE DAY

15:43:58 SO WE CAN TAKE THE TIME AND ASK THE QUESTIONS AND FIND

15:44:02 OUT THE INFORMATION; HOWEVER, I BELIEVE WE -- WE AGREED

15:44:05 TO NUMBER TWO.

15:44:09 AGAIN, IT IS COUNCIL -- I WANT TO BE CLEAR I WANT TO

15:44:12 HEAR ALL THE INFORMATION AND TAKE THE TIME TO ASK THE

15:44:16 QUESTIONS AND TO OUR COUNCIL'S POINTS, HEAR FROM THE

15:44:17 COMMUNITY.

15:44:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME JUST SAY THIS, COUNCIL, WITH

15:44:24 REGARD TO THE DEPARTMENTAL BRIEFINGS, IF IT ENDS AT

15:44:27 NOON, IF YOU WANT TO END AT NOON, THERE IS NO

15:44:30 OBLIGATION TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT IF IT IS

15:44:33 COUNCIL'S DECISION TO NOT COMMENT ON IT SO YOU WOULD

15:44:33 END AT NOON.

15:44:35 THEY CAN COME BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING.

15:44:39 THERE WILL BE NO OFFICIAL ACTION TAKEN AT THESE

15:44:42 BRIEFINGS UNLESS COUNCIL WISHES TO BUT I DON'T BELIEVE

15:44:43 THERE IS A PURPOSE OF IT.

15:44:47 AND I SHOULD SAY ONE MORE THING, COUNCIL, YOU LOOK AT

15:44:52 ITEM -- LUKE AT THE ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOP FOR MARCH 26,

15:44:56 AND YOU TELL ME HOW WITH PUBLIC INPUT TO THIS YOU ARE

15:44:58 GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS BY NOON.

15:45:01 AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE LOOKING AT -- AND I

15:45:05 DON'T WANT TO USE -- DON'T WANT TO USE AN ANALOGY, BUT

15:45:08 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE BY NOON.

15:45:10 AS IT NOW STANDS.

15:45:16 ULTIMATELY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO -- TO LOOK AT IT

15:45:20 IRRESPECTIVE IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE DATES OF YOUR

15:45:22 PREVIOUS MOTION TO RECONSIDER YOUR PREVIOUS MOTION AND

15:45:26 I AM CONCERNED -- NONE OF MY BUSINESS BUT YOUR BUSINESS

15:45:29 AND YOUR CHAIR AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ARE NOT PRESENTS

15:45:31 IF YOU MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY.

15:45:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

15:45:34 >>BILL CARLSON: WITH MY TWO COLLEAGUES.

15:45:37 I WOULD RATHER SPEND ONE WHOLE DAY AND SPEND THE TIME

15:45:40 WE NEED AND NOT INTERRUPT EVERYTHING ELSE.

15:45:41 TOO MUCH ELSE GOING ON.

15:45:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY OPINION REAL QUICK.

15:45:46 I TREAT THIS AS A FULL-TIME JOB.

15:45:49 I AM GRATEFUL THAT I HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO WHATEVER.

15:45:52 IF WE HAVE TO BE HERE ON A SUNDAY -- I KNOW, I'LL BE

15:45:53 HERE ON A SUNDAY.

15:45:57 IF WE HAVE TO BE HERE ALL DAY.

15:45:58 WHEN WE CAMPAIGNED.

15:46:00 I CAMPAIGNED.

15:46:01 I WORK FOR THE PEOPLE.

15:46:03 I'M HERE FOR YOU.

15:46:04 HOWEVER LONG.

15:46:06 2:00 IN THE MORNING FOR REZONINGS AND NIGHT MEETING.

15:46:08 WE DON'T GET PAID MORE.

15:46:10 WE DON'T GET PAID LESS.

15:46:11 I AM FLEXIBLE.

15:46:14 I AM HAPPY WITH WHATEVER THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD GOES

15:46:14 WITH.

15:46:18 I AM OPEN AND DEDICATED TO THIS.

15:46:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:46:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR,

15:46:25 BUT I THINK AND TO GET TO MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION.

15:46:28 I WOULD LIKE TO REOPEN IT TO CONSIDERATION OF HAVING A

15:46:30 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WHERE WE CAN MEET AND REALLY

15:46:32 HEAR WHAT IS GOING ON.

15:46:36 AND HEAR THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS

15:46:39 ARE SAYING AND DOING SO WE CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT

15:46:43 WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE OUR CONCERNS.

15:46:46 I THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE DAY VERSUS TRYING TO THROW

15:46:50 THINGS OFF THE CALENDAR AND ADD MUCH.

15:46:54 THAT IS NOT PRODUCTIVE AND ENTERTAIN MR. DINGFELDER'S

15:46:55 MOTION.

15:46:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL WITHDRAW THE MOTION IF THE

15:47:01 SECOND MR. CITRO.

15:47:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL SECOND COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:47:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND WITHDRAWN BY

15:47:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:47:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MINDFUL -- THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT

15:47:19 AWARE OF IT UNLESS THEY ARE WATCHING IT LIVE.

15:47:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY ARE WATCHING.

15:47:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION -- I CAN PRINT OUT THE

15:47:25 FOUR OPTIONS.

15:47:29 YOU SAY YOU WANT EIGHT HOURS OR TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS.

15:47:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS.

15:47:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FINE.

15:47:36 TOO MUCH INFORMATION COMING IN AT ONCE, YOU DON'T PAY

15:47:38 ATTENTION AS MUCH.

15:47:40 YOU ARE NOT AS FOCUSED.

15:47:41 WHATEVER.

15:47:44 YOU GET TIRED.

15:47:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAKE A -- BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT

15:47:50 THURSDAY WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND COME UP WITH

15:47:52 THE TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS AND WE WILL SHIFT EVERYTHING

15:47:53 NEXT WEEK.

15:47:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I ASK THAT THIS ITEM THEN -- CAN

15:48:02 WE MAKE THE MOTION THEN FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO

15:48:05 RECONSIDER ITS FEBRUARY 6 MOTION.

15:48:09 NOT DO THAT TODAY, BUT THEN TO -- TO CONSIDER OPTION

15:48:11 THREE INSTEAD.

15:48:13 AND SET THAT -- AND COUNCIL LOOKING AT NEXT WEEK'S

15:48:16 CALENDAR, THAT IS A CRA DAY.

15:48:19 YOU HAVE A -- A 6 P.M. MEETING.

15:48:23 WOULD LIKE TO SET THIS AT 5:30 P.M. TO HANDLE THAT.

15:48:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T PREFER TO DO IT ON A OF THE

15:48:26 DAY PEOPLE.

15:48:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO, JUST TO COME BACK AND INFORM

15:48:35 THE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT COUNCIL NOW WISHES TO CONSIDER

15:48:39 OPTION THREE, WHICH A TWO FOUR-HOUR SPECIAL CALL

15:48:42 SECTION IN THE MONTH OF MARCH AND APRIL AND MAY HAVE TO

15:48:44 RECONSIDER DEPENDING ON THE TIMING NOW.

15:48:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAY HAVE TO TAKE --

15:48:48 [INAUDIBLE]

15:48:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT WILL TAKE FIVE MINUTES.

15:48:57 LEAVE IT AT 6:00 AND COME BACK US TO AT 6:00.

15:48:59 >> I AM CONCERNED YOU MAY HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE

15:49:03 AND MAY HAVE AS LONG AS A DISCUSSION --

15:49:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BASICALLY.

15:49:07 LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT.

15:49:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

15:49:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WITHDREW THAT OTHER MOTION.

15:49:14 THE MOTION IS TO DIRECT WITH MR. SHELBY TO WORK WITH

15:49:17 THE ADMINISTRATION AND CLERK'S OFFICE TO COME BACK WITH

15:49:23 TWO FOUR-HOUR DAYS THAT ARE NOT THURSDAYS TO ADDRESS

15:49:27 MR. BENNETT'S REQUEST.

15:49:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

15:49:29 DINGFELDER.

15:49:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COME BACK 6 P.M. NEXT THURSDAY

15:49:34 NIGHT.

15:49:36 >> A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

15:49:39 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

15:49:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MONDAYS WORK BEST.

15:49:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.

15:49:43 EYES?

15:49:45 ANY OPPOSED.

15:49:48 -- AYES?

15:49:49 SHELBY SHE WILL ONE LAST ITEM.

15:49:54 WE CAN LET THIS QUESTION NOW OR PLAY OUT.

15:49:57 LET'S BE COGNIZANT AND WHAT THE WORKSHOP ON MARCH 26

15:50:00 LOOKS LIKE WITH ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THERE BECAUSE

15:50:02 YOU WILL NOT GET OUT BY NOON.

15:50:05 AND EVEN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

15:50:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DRINK MORE COFFEE THAT DAY.

15:50:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.

15:50:11 THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.

15:50:14 NEW INFORMATION AND INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW

15:50:15 BUSINESS.

15:50:17 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

15:50:19 >>BILL CARLSON: THING IS AN IMPORTANT ONE.

15:50:22 I TALK TO THE DOT THE LAST FEW DAYS.

15:50:25 I THINK THEY MET WITH ALL YOU HAVE YOU.

15:50:28 AND THEY ARE UNDER INSTRUCTIONS FROM BACK WHEN LISA

15:50:33 MONTIONE WAS ON COUNCIL TO COME BACK QUARTERLY TO TALK

15:50:38 TO THE CRA BOARD ABOUT TBX.

15:50:41 AND THOSE ISSUES STILL CONTINUE.

15:50:46 BUT I SAID TO THEM, I THINK WE ARE TAKING TOO SMALL OF

15:50:47 A VIEW OF THIS.

15:50:50 PART BECAUSE I AM IN SOUTH TAMPA.

15:50:53 A COUPLE OF YOU ARE CITYWIDE ALSO.

15:50:57 BUT TALKING ABOUT TBX DOESN'T COVER TRANSPORTATION

15:50:59 ISSUES AROUND THE CITY.

15:51:02 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO -- AND IS WITH D.O.T.'S

15:51:07 BLESSING AND SESSION ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO, IN THE CRA

15:51:10 MEETING, CANCEL THAT REQUEST, AND THEN INSTEAD MAKE A

15:51:14 MOTION TODAY TO SET UP A QUARTERLY UPDATE BY D.O.T.

15:51:16 WHERE THEY WILL TALK ABOUT ALL TRANSPORTATION IN THE

15:51:19 CITY, NOT JUST TBX.

15:51:23 CAN INCLUDE TBX BUT NOT JUST THAT.

15:51:26 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT FDOT WORK WITH THE

15:51:29 CITY OF TAMPA STAFF TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY UPDATES ON

15:51:32 CURRENT AND PLANNED PROJECTS THAT MAY IMPACT OUR

15:51:34 COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

15:51:36 THE UPDATE SHOULD COVER INNOVATION AND TRANSPORTATION

15:51:39 ALTERNATIVES AS WELL AS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

15:51:43 THE UPDATES WILL BE GIVEN BY FDOT STAFF AND JOINTLY

15:51:46 WITH CITY STAFF.

15:51:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND.

15:51:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.

15:51:52 DOES THAT COME BANG WITH A RECOMMENDATION WHEN THAT

15:51:53 WILL BE.

15:51:54 YOU WANT QUARTERLY.

15:51:56 >>BILL CARLSON: QUARTERLY.

15:51:58 I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WILL START.

15:52:01 >> QUESTION A WORKSHOP DAY AND HOW LONG DOCTOR HOW LONG

15:52:03 WILL THE PRESENTATION BE?

15:52:08 >>BILL CARLSON: CRA TAKES A SMALL -- TBX --

15:52:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A CRA MOTION?

15:52:12 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

15:52:15 IF THIS PASS, I WILL MAKE A MOTION DURING THE CRA

15:52:21 MEETING TO END THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS ONE REPLACES IT.

15:52:21 [INAUDIBLE]

15:52:27 YES.

15:52:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK YOU CAN DO IT THIS WAY.

15:52:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND

15:52:39 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:52:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OR DO YOU WANT A RECOMMENDATION FROM

15:52:46 THE ADMINISTRATION?

15:52:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE SIR.

15:52:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU ALSO REQUIRE FD, TO --

15:53:00 [INAUDIBLE]

15:53:02 >>BILL CARLSON: I SUGGESTED THIS AND THEY THOUGHT IT

15:53:05 WAS A GREAT IDEA AND THEY WOULD WELCOME IT.

15:53:07 JUST A SCHEDULING ISSUE.

15:53:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FDOT LIKES COMING.

15:53:12 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?

15:53:13 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

15:53:15 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

15:53:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?

15:53:20 COUNCILMAN GUDES?

15:53:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE.

15:53:26 COUNCIL, YOU TALKED ABOUT PROTECTING THE HOUSE.

15:53:28 AND I THINK WE COME TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE

15:53:32 SURE WE ARE PROTECTING EVERYONE'S HOUSE WITHIN THE

15:53:32 CITY.

15:53:35 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO

15:53:37 LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF AN INDEPENDENT COMPLIANCE

15:53:44 OFFICER FOR THE PURPOSE OF RFPS, RFQS AND WMBES TO BE

15:53:47 ASSIGNED TO THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT.

15:53:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

15:53:51 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:53:52 ALL IN FAVOR.

15:53:56 ANYTHING ELSE SIR?

15:53:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW UP AND INFORM

15:54:00 COUNCIL?

15:54:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

15:54:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND FOLLOW

15:54:05 UP.

15:54:09 AND COME BACK -- BRING IT BACK ON THE FUTURE AGENDA?

15:54:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

15:54:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:54:12 ANYTHING ELSE SIR.

15:54:15 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

15:54:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TWO ITEMS.

15:54:22 ONE A FOLLOW-UP TO MR. THE PRESENTATION.

15:54:27 I WOULD LIKE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE POSSIBILITY

15:54:34 OF USING SOME PIPES MONEY TO FUND SOME ADDITIONAL WMBE

15:54:34 OFFICERS.

15:54:41 SO I WOULD LIKE A -- A REPORT BACK -- A WRITTEN REPORT

15:54:46 IS FINE FROM MR. BAIRD OR ANY -- OR ANYBODY IN THE

15:54:49 ADMINISTRATION AT THE -- BY THE MAY -- BY THE MAY 7

15:54:52 REGULAR MEETING.

15:54:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:54:57 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

15:55:00 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:55:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WILL BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS

15:55:05 JUST AS A WRITTEN REPORT.

15:55:10 AND THEN SECONDLY, LET ME SEE IF I CAN READ MY SCRIBBLE

15:55:11 HERE.

15:55:15 WITH REGARDS TO THE DOT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

15:55:20 THAT THIS COUNCIL -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT

15:55:24 THIS COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE TOLLING OF

15:55:30 ANY INTERSTATE LANES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

15:55:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.

15:55:32 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

15:55:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES?

15:55:35 ALL IN FAVOR?

15:55:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

15:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE TWO MOTIONS.

15:55:42 SINCE HE IS THE CRA CHAIR.

15:55:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

15:55:49 BUT HE IS NOT HERE.

15:55:49 [INAUDIBLE]

15:56:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT I AM THE VICE-CHAIR, YES.

15:56:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE THE VICE-CHAIR.

15:56:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM THE VICE-CHAIR --

15:56:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOWN TO AL -- I AM IN CHARGE -- AL

15:56:26 HAYES.

15:56:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE VICE-CHAIR OF FINANCE.

15:56:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MOVE TO BE TEMPORARY CHAIR.

15:56:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

15:56:45 I HAVE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION FOR TAMPA

15:56:48 PRIDE TO BE GIVEN TO THE TAMPA PRIDE DIVERSITY PARADE

15:56:51 ON MARCH 28.

15:56:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A SECOND MADE BY COUNCILMAN

15:56:53 MANISCALCO.

15:56:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

15:56:58 AYE.

15:57:01 ANY OPPOSED?

15:57:02 NEXT?

15:57:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS VERY SPECIAL BECAUSE OF MY

15:57:06 VERY SPECIAL AIDE, LISA.

15:57:10 NATIONAL COLON CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND AN ANNUAL

15:57:12 OBSERVATION OF THE UNITED STATES IN THE MONTH OF MARCH

15:57:18 TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF COLORECTAL CANCER INSIDE BY

15:57:22 PRESIDENT CLINTON FEBRUARY 29,2000.

15:57:26 COLORECTAL CANCER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AN ESTIMATED

15:57:31 50,000 DEATHS EACH EAR AND COLON CANCER AWARENESS, THE

15:57:32 DEATH RATES HAVE BEEN DROPPING.

15:57:36 DRESS IN BLUE DAY IS FRIDAY MARCH 6 TOMORROW.

15:57:39 AND LET'S ALLIES JOIN EVERYWHERE TO END COLORECTAL

15:57:41 CANCER.

15:57:44 THIS YEAR MORE THAN 147,000 PEOPLE WILL BE DIAGNOSED

15:57:47 WITH THIS HIGHLY PREVENTABLE DISEASE.

15:57:50 DRESSING IN BLUE, YOU WILL JOIN 1.4 MILLION CANCER

15:57:52 PATIENTS AND SURVIVORS LIVING TODAY.

15:57:54 WE GO BLUE FOR THEM, THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR

15:57:55 COMMUNITY.

15:57:59 SOME FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO HAD THIS. AUDREY HEPBURN, VINCE

15:58:04 LOMBARDI, JACKIE GLEASON, RONALD REAGAN, ELIZABETH

15:58:09 MONTGOMERY AND ROBIN GIBBS OF THE BEEGEES.

15:58:11 I AM IN FALLS BLUE AND I WILL BE WEARING BLUE TOMORROW

15:58:14 AND ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY WATCHING AND EVERYBODY THERE

15:58:15 TO DO SO.

15:58:15 THAT'S IT.

15:58:19 CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

15:58:25 A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND A SECOND.

15:58:26 THANK YOU.

15:58:26 [GAVEL SOUNDING]

15:58:33 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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