TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL CALL VIRTUAL MEETING
TUESDAY, APRIL 21, 2020
10:00 A.M.
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10:12:09 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:12:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:10 THIS IS CHAIRMAN CITY COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA HERE FOR A
10:12:15 SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL HELD TODAY ON APRIL
10:12:18 21st, 2020.
10:12:19 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE START.
10:12:22 FOR SOME DARN REASON, MY PHONE LINE WOULDN'T WORK.
10:12:25 BEFORE WE FORMALLY BEGIN, LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH OUR
10:12:28 TRADITIONAL INVOCATION WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
10:12:30 IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE BE SILENT FOR A COUPLE OF SECONDS.
10:12:36 [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
10:12:38 OKAY.
10:12:39 NEXT WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
10:12:41 PLEASE STAND WHERE YOU ARE AT AND BE READY FOR THE PLEDGE OF
10:12:43 ALLEGIANCE AND FOLLOW WITH ME.
10:12:45 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
10:12:55 OKAY.
10:12:56 MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE ROLL CALL.
10:13:00 >>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIRMAN.
10:13:01 CARLSON?
10:13:04 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:13:07 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
10:13:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
10:13:08 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
10:13:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
10:13:12 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
10:13:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:13:15 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
10:13:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:13:18 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
10:13:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:13:20 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
10:13:21 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:13:23 OKAY.
10:13:24 THANK YOU FOR THAT, SULING.
10:13:29 WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:13:29 THE PURPOSE OF THIS SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING OF COUNCIL IS TO
10:13:29 DISCUSS AND RESOLVE HOW TO RESUME REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY
10:13:33 COUNCIL BUSINESS AS SOON AS IS REASONABLY PRACTICAL WITH
10:13:36 SAFETY REGULATIONS, ET CETERA.
10:13:38 I CALLED THIS MEETING BECAUSE INITIALLY, WHEN WE FIRST BEGAN
10:13:43 TO PUSH MEETINGS OFF BECAUSE OF THIS COVID-19 CRISIS, WE
10:13:47 DIDN'T EXACTLY KNOW HOW LONG THIS WAS GOING TO GO FOR.
10:13:53 WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO GO FOR.
10:13:53 BUT IT MAY VERY WELL GO FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN
10:13:56 ORIGINALLY WAS ANTICIPATED.
10:13:59 WE HAVE CITY BUSINESS TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:14:00 AND WE WANT TO SEE WITH REGARD TO LEGAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL
10:14:06 FEASIBILITY HOW EXACTLY WE CAN DO THAT.
10:14:09 FIRST, WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:14:10 SULING, WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIVED OR ANY
10:14:13 MESSAGES ABLE TO BE PLAYED OR SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD
10:14:15 OTHERWISE?
10:14:16 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, AT THIS TIME, THERE WERE NO VOICE MAIL
10:14:18 MESSAGES TO BE PLAYED AND NO PUBLIC COMMENT APPEARANCES ON
10:14:23 THE FIRST FLOOR AND ALL E-MAILS HAVE BEEN TRANSMITTED TO ALL
10:14:26 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:14:28 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:14:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
10:14:29 NEXT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR WONDERFUL CITY COUNCIL
10:14:35 ATTORNEY, MR. SHELBY, TO DISCUSS THE RULES, THE EMERGENCY
10:14:38 RULES OF PROCEDURE TO BE ADOPTED BEFORE OFFICIAL ACTION MAY
10:14:40 BE TAKEN.
10:14:41 MARTY, GO FOR IT, SIR.
10:14:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:14:48 TO DISCUSS SOMETHING WHICH IS, IN FACT, A WALK-ON.
10:14:51 IT DOESN'T APPEAR ON YOUR AGENDA, BUT IT IS A NECESSARY STEP
10:14:54 IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS TAKING OFFICIAL ACTION.
10:14:57 THAT IS THE ADOPTION OF AN APPROVAL OF EMERGENCY RULES OF
10:15:02 PROCEDURE FOR THE CONDUCT OF MEETINGS, VIRTUAL MEETINGS,
10:15:05 THAT WHICH THE STATE CALLS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY
10:15:09 DURING THE STATE OF EMERGENCY PERTAINING TO THE COVID-19
10:15:12 PANDEMIC.
10:15:13 AND I TRANSMITTED IT TO YOU.
10:15:15 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SHORT LEAD TIME, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE IT
10:15:20 BEFORE YOU AND TO SEE IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER ADOPTING IT
10:15:24 TODAY.
10:15:24 IF YOU DO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION AS A WALK-ON, IT SETS FORTH
10:15:29 THE RULES UNDER WHICH COUNCIL CAN CONDUCT CITY BUSINESS
10:15:33 USING VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGY, EITHER BY ITSELF OR PERHAPS
10:15:37 SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE AS A HYBRID.
10:15:40 IF IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED IN ANY SORT OF WAY, THERE ARE WAYS
10:15:43 WE CAN DO THAT.
10:15:44 WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO
10:15:46 THANK MORRIS MASSEY FOR PUTTING TOGETHER, DOING THE LEGWORK
10:15:51 ON THIS.
10:15:51 THIS IS BEING DONE IN JURISDICTIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
10:15:54 IT FOLLOWS STATE STATUTE AND STATE RULES, AND WHAT IT DOES
10:16:03 IS SET FORTH THE NOTICE PROVISIONS.
10:16:06 IT SETS FORTH SPECIFIC FINDINGS AS TO WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.
10:16:10 IT SETS FORTH HOW THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE.
10:16:15 IT ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO BE AMENDED IF YOU NEED TO.
10:16:19 IF COUNCIL DOES THAT TODAY AND ACCEPTS THIS GOING FORWARD
10:16:24 AND MAKES A MOTION TO ADOPT IT, TO PASS THE RESOLUTION, THEN
10:16:29 YOU CAN TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION TODAY, IF YOU NEED TO,
10:16:32 PARTICULARLY, LET'S SAY, WITH REGARD TO SETTING YOUR
10:16:35 CALENDAR OR GIVING DIRECTION TO ME OR STAFF OR ASKING THE
10:16:39 ADMINISTRATION.
10:16:40 SO IF COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE DOING IT, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU
10:16:43 DO SO.
10:16:44 IF NOT, IF COUNCIL FEELS THEY NEED MORE TIME OR IF THEY WANT
10:16:48 TO WISH TO ASK QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
10:16:51 BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST STEP THAT I RECOMMEND.
10:16:56 THE CRA HAS ALSO GOTTEN ITS COPY AND WILL PROBABLY TAKE UP
10:17:00 THE SAME THING TO DO AGAIN ON THURSDAY SO THEY CAN TAKE
10:17:03 ACTION.
10:17:03 I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:17:05 BARRING THAT, WE CAN EITHER CONTINUE IT OR WE CAN MOVE THE
10:17:09 RESOLUTION.
10:17:10 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:17:12 COUNCILMAN GUDES IS RECOGNIZED.
10:17:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:17:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU LOOKING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN TODAY?
10:17:21 IF SO, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU'RE ALLOWING MOTIONS TO BE
10:17:24 DONE.
10:17:24 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YEAH, BY ALL MEANS.
10:17:27 COUNCILMAN CITRO, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:17:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.
10:17:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION,
10:17:41 MIRANDA.
10:17:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:17:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SINCE THIS IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND I'M
10:17:44 NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT THE ITEMS I WOULD PUT ON THE CALENDAR
10:17:47 FOR US TO PASS TODAY HAD A MOTION PUT AND A MOTION SECOND,
10:17:50 WE WERE NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH, IN MY OPINION, TO STATE WHAT
10:17:53 THE GOVERNOR DID AND TO WHAT SECTION OF LAW.
10:17:56 THAT WAS OMITTED.
10:17:57 IT JUST SAID THE GOVERNOR DID THIS.
10:18:00 IT DID NOT SAY THE NUMBER AND SECTIONS OF LAW AND IF THERE
10:18:02 IS A CASE FILED AGAINST US, I THINK WE LOSE.
10:18:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS WHAT WE CAN DO IS HAVE THAT
10:18:09 ADDRESSED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, MR.
10:18:11 CHAIRMAN.
10:18:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:18:13 IF MR. MASSEY IS HERE OR MS. GRIMES, YES, SIR.
10:18:19 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: HI.
10:18:20 THIS IS ANDREA ZELMAN.
10:18:22 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IN THE FINDINGS, I BELIEVE CHAPTER 252
10:18:26 THE FLORIDA EMERGENCY STATUTE IS, IN FACT, CITED AS WELL
10:18:31 AS --
10:18:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
10:18:33 WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I DON'T THINK THAT SECTION OF LAW THAT
10:18:36 YOU JUST SAID 252 -- MAYBE I MISSED IT -- BUT I DON'T THINK
10:18:39 I HEARD IT.
10:18:40 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 2 OF THE RULES OF
10:18:44 PROCEDURE THAT MR. SHELBY PROVIDED YOU, IT'S BOTH IN THE
10:18:48 SECOND-TO-LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE AND THEN IN THE FINDINGS.
10:18:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
10:18:56 BUT IT WAS NEVER PUT ON THE RECORD WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED
10:19:00 BEFORE THE VOTE IS GOING TO BE TAKEN.
10:19:02 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ON THE RECORD AS TO WHAT
10:19:03 SECTION SO THAT YOU HAVE A VERBAL AND SOMETHING TO FALL BACK
10:19:06 ONTO.
10:19:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:19:12 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ARE YOUR CONCERNS
10:19:14 ADDRESSED, SIR, OR SATISFIED?
10:19:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ALREADY ISSUED MY CONCERNS.
10:19:20 IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT.
10:19:23 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:19:24 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:19:29 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:19:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CARLSON WAS FIRST.
10:19:37 GO AHEAD, BILL.
10:19:39 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
10:19:40 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
10:19:42 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:19:43 >>BILL CARLSON: ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY NOW OR
10:19:48 IN THE LATER PART OF THE AGENDA?
10:19:50 >>LUIS VIERA: LATER, COUNCILMAN.
10:19:51 I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IS MARTY IS HAVING US
10:19:58 PROSPECTIVELY VOTE ON A RESOLUTION.
10:20:00 I THINK THAT WOULD COME UP DURING CHIEF BENNETT'S
10:20:03 PRESENTATION LATER ON.
10:20:04 THAT WILL BE SEPARATE.
10:20:07 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:20:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:20:09 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:20:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:20:12 GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
10:20:12 THIS BASICALLY GOES TO LEGAL, EITHER GINA OR WHOEVER WANTS
10:20:19 TO CHIME IN.
10:20:21 THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE
10:20:24 NOTION THAT WE NEEDED A PHYSICAL QUORUM IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY
10:20:28 VOTE ON ANYTHING.
10:20:30 THIS APPEARS TO CHANGE THAT DYNAMIC.
10:20:37 I'M JUST WONDERING, DO WE HAVE AN OPINION THAT HELPS US GIVE
10:20:43 US GUIDANCE TO CHANGE OUR PROCEDURE IN THAT REGARD, BECAUSE
10:20:50 PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN THAT ANY ACTIONS WE
10:20:53 TOOK WITHOUT A PHYSICAL QUORUM MIGHT BE INVALID BECAUSE OF
10:20:57 THE STATE STATUTE.
10:20:59 ANYBODY HELP ON THAT?
10:21:02 >>GINA GRIMES: THIS IS GINA GRIMES.
10:21:04 ONE OF THE INITIAL VIRTUAL MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, WE TALKED
10:21:11 ABOUT THIS TO SOME EXTENT.
10:21:13 I MENTIONED THAT THE GOVERNOR HAD ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
10:21:19 SAYING THAT HE WAS WAIVING STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR A
10:21:23 PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:21:24 SO SEVERAL MEETINGS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED WITHOUT A PHYSICAL
10:21:28 QUORUM, ALTHOUGH YOU'RE RIGHT THAT NO OFFICIAL ACTION HAS
10:21:32 YET BEEN TAKEN.
10:21:34 NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING VIRTUAL MEETINGS WHERE
10:21:36 OFFICIAL ACTION MAY, IN FACT, BE TAKEN.
10:21:40 AND MAYBE ADDING TO THE CONFUSION IS THE MEETING THAT WE HAD
10:21:43 LAST WEEK THAT, IN FACT, A PHYSICAL QUORUM EXISTED.
10:21:49 THE REASON THAT WAS DONE LAST WEEK WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE
10:21:53 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA THAT WAS REQUESTING COUNCIL'S APPROVAL
10:21:57 OF THE RESOLUTION IN THE ORDINANCE APPROVING A CONDUIT BOND.
10:22:03 BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE AT HAND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, WE
10:22:09 ACCOMMODATED THEIR REQUEST TO HAVE THE PHYSICAL QUORUM AND
10:22:12 NOT RELY UPON THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.
10:22:16 THE SAME WAS TRUE FOR THE CDBG HEARING BECAUSE IT INVOLVES
10:22:20 FEDERAL MONEY, AND WE DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE AN ISSUE WITH
10:22:23 THE FACT OF WHETHER OR NOT THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER
10:22:28 WAS CORRECT.
10:22:30 WAIVING THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR A PHYSICAL QUORUM, WE
10:22:32 WENT AHEAD AND HAD IT FOR THOSE TWO PARTICULAR ISSUES.
10:22:37 BUT GOING FORWARD, AS FAR AS COUNCIL SETTING MEETINGS AND
10:22:42 TAKING ACTION, I THINK WE CAN RELY ON THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER.
10:22:48 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOSTLY LEGISLATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE
10:22:53 MATTERS, REALLY JUST THOSE TWO.
10:22:56 WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER ABOUT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:23:00 BUT IT'S THOSE KIND OF MATTERS WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR
10:23:03 COUNCIL TO ACT IN A QUASI -- SETTING.
10:23:11 I THINK THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
10:23:13 CONSIDER THE FACT THAT FOR THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, THE MAYOR
10:23:18 HAS BEEN APPROVING THESE SAME TYPE OF ITEMS UNDER HER
10:23:21 EMERGENCY POWERS.
10:23:23 THE FACT THAT COUNCIL IS MEETING, THE ONLY ISSUE IS THE LACK
10:23:28 OF A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:23:30 I THINK WE CAN PROCEED.
10:23:31 MANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE HAVE RELIED UPON THE
10:23:35 GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.
10:23:37 THERE IS ALWAYS A RISK WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU DO, BUT I
10:23:40 THINK THE RISK IS MINIMIZED GIVEN THAT WE'RE LIMITING YOUR
10:23:43 ACTIONS TO LEGISLATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS.
10:23:48 I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SHELBY HAS ANYTHING TO ADD OR NOT.
10:23:53 >>LUIS VIERA: MARTY, ANYTHING, SIR?
10:23:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
10:23:58 I THOUGHT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S EXPLANATION WAS EXACTLY ON
10:24:02 POINT, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT GIVES COUNCIL TOOLS TO MOVE
10:24:07 FORWARD AS LONG AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, AS SHE OPINES, HAS THE
10:24:12 LEVEL OF COMFORT TO BE ABLE TO DO SO AND HAS OFFERED THAT
10:24:15 OPINION AND RECOMMENDATION.
10:24:16 I SUPPORT THAT.
10:24:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, DINGFELDER.
10:24:21 JUST AS A FOLLOW-ON.
10:24:23 I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT AS LONG AS OUR GREAT LEGAL MINDS ARE
10:24:31 GOOD WITH IT.
10:24:34 IS IT, THEREFORE, ANTICIPATED THAT WE WILL START ADDRESSING
10:24:42 THE AGENDA AGAIN AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE TRADITIONALLY
10:24:46 REFERRED TO AS OUR CONSENT AGENDA ON A REGULAR BASIS
10:24:52 TELEPHONICALLY?
10:24:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ADDRESS THAT?
10:24:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:24:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND I COULD SEND IT
10:25:01 OUT IN AN E-MAIL.
10:25:03 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE COUNCIL HAS IT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT
10:25:06 THE AGENDA THAT WAS PREPARED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND WHAT
10:25:10 WAS ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE CHAIRMAN'S MEMO FROM LAST
10:25:14 FRIDAY, SETS FORTH REALLY WHAT THE ORDER OF BUSINESS IS
10:25:18 TODAY.
10:25:18 AFTER A DISCUSSION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION REGARDING THE
10:25:21 TECHNOLOGY AND PUBLIC HEALTH CONSIDERATIONS, THEN NUMBER TWO
10:25:25 WOULD SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WISHES
10:25:28 TO DISCUSS.
10:25:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL DEFER THAT QUESTION THEN.
10:25:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:25:37 ANYONE ELSE?
10:25:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY AGAIN.
10:25:42 I DO HAVE ONE MORE CONCERN THAT WE CAN HOLD THIS DURING THE
10:25:48 DISCUSSION OF NUMBER 1, THE ADMINISTRATION'S REPORT, THOUGH
10:25:52 I CAN HANDLE A MATTER THAT MAY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE I
10:25:56 ASK COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON THE WALK-ON, ON THE
10:26:00 RESOLUTION, IF THE CHAIR WOULD GIVE ME THAT LATITUDE.
10:26:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON IT RIGHT NOW?
10:26:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO.
10:26:07 I WISH TO BE ABLE TO HOLD IT AND CONTINUE THAT UNTIL AFTER
10:26:10 THE DISCUSSION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE ME AN
10:26:12 OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE --
10:26:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
10:26:17 SO WE'LL HOLD COUNCILMAN GUDES' MOTION, SECONDED BY
10:26:20 COUNCILMAN CITRO UNTIL AFTER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
10:26:24 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?
10:26:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:26:27 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:26:27 NO WORRIES THERE, SIR.
10:26:29 WE'LL HOLD THAT.
10:26:32 I'M COMFORTABLE ON THIS.
10:26:33 WE'RE VOTING ON, LIKE MS. GRIMES SAID, LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
10:26:36 TO THE EXTENT ANYONE WOULD GO AND CHALLENGE THE GOVERNOR'S
10:26:39 POWER AND THEN COME BACK HERE TO TAMPA TO CHALLENGE US ON
10:26:43 SOMETHING LIKE VOTING ON THE VICE-CHAIR OF CRA OR SOMETHING
10:26:48 OF THAT NATURE, GOD BLESS THEM.
10:26:52 LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
10:26:53 LET'S GO AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 1
10:26:57 HERE FOR CHIEF BENNETT.
10:26:59 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:27:01 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.
10:27:02 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:27:04 GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC.
10:27:04 >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE, CHIEF.
10:27:07 THIS IS LUIS VIERA.
10:27:08 I APOLOGIZE.
10:27:10 EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DURING THE
10:27:12 TIME THAT THIS IS BEING PRESENTED.
10:27:14 AFTERWARDS, WE'LL GO THROUGH A LINE AGAIN FOR COMMENTS AND
10:27:18 QUESTIONS.
10:27:18 WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN GO THROUGH THE
10:27:22 LINE AND GIVE EVERYBODY SUFFICIENT TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS AND
10:27:25 WHATNOT.
10:27:27 CHIEF, WHAT ITEMS ARE YOU TAKING UP NOW IN YOUR PRESENTATION
10:27:30 JUST SO THAT WE KNOW?
10:27:33 >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF, CITY OF TAMPA.
10:27:36 I'M GOING TO BE TAKING UP ITEM NUMBER 1 FOR THE MOMENT.
10:27:40 WE'VE COMPARTMENTALIZED THAT INTO THREE DISCUSSIONS.
10:27:45 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:27:46 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:27:47 THANK YOU.
10:27:48 >>JOHN BENNETT: AGAIN, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:27:51 CITY OF TAMPA, GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, AND THE
10:27:53 PUBLIC.
10:27:54 RELEVANT TO ITEM NUMBER 1 DISCUSSING OPTIONS AVAILABLE FROM
10:27:57 THE ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT NECESSARY TECHNOLOGY AND
10:28:00 ACTIONS CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING ANTICIPATED PUBLIC HEALTH
10:28:04 REQUIREMENTS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO RETURN TO REGULARLY
10:28:07 SCHEDULED BUSINESS.
10:28:09 AS I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, WE WANT TO BREAK THE DISCUSSION
10:28:12 UP INTO THREE SMALL COMPARTMENTS.
10:28:14 FIRST, MS. GRIMES AND MYSELF ARE GOING TO KIND OF GIVE A
10:28:17 STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY REMINDER OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A
10:28:22 CITY-WIDE EFFORT AS WELL AS IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR COUNTY
10:28:27 VERY BRIEFLY.
10:28:28 AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE TECHNOLOGICAL OPTIONS WITH
10:28:31 RUSSELL HAUPERT AND ASHLEY BAUMAN TO MAKE SURE WE ACHIEVE
10:28:37 THAT CONSISTENT LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:28:39 LASTLY, WE'LL COME BACK TO OUR LEGAL AND OUR CLERK'S OFFICE
10:28:43 TO DISCUSS ALL THE PARAMETERS THAT ARE INVOLVED TO MAKE
10:28:46 SURE, AGAIN, WE'RE KEEPING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE CONSISTENT
10:28:50 WITH THE PUBLIC IN A VIRTUAL ENVIRONMENT.
10:28:53 TO KICK IT OFF, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE IN A
10:28:57 STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY AT THE CITY LEVEL AS WELL AS THE
10:28:59 COUNTY LEVEL.
10:29:00 IT WAS JUST RENEWED AGAIN YESTERDAY FOR SEVEN DAYS.
10:29:03 OUR OPERATIONAL TEMPO OF CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT IN
10:29:07 HANDLING THE COVID-19 EMERGENCY STILL EXISTS, AND IT
10:29:11 INCREASES THAT LEVEL ACTUALLY DAILY.
10:29:15 BY EXAMPLE OF OPENING UP THE RELIEF FUND AHEAD OF THE
10:29:18 WEEKEND, WE ARE MANAGING THOUSANDS OF INTAKES RELATED TO
10:29:24 INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND LEADING INTO BUSINESS ASSISTANCE.
10:29:28 SO STAFF IS WORKING EXHAUSTIVELY, TO BE CANDID, ALL HOURS OF
10:29:34 THE DAY, NIGHT AND WEEKENDS TRYING TO HANDLE BOTH THE
10:29:38 EMERGENCY AND THE DAILY CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT.
10:29:40 WE'RE UP FOR THAT.
10:29:42 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DESIGNED FOR UNDER THE MAYOR'S LEADERSHIP.
10:29:45 SO THERE IS NO CONCERN IN KEEPING THAT PACE.
10:29:48 AND WE HAVE NO CONCERN ON MAKING SURE THAT COUNCIL'S
10:29:51 BUSINESS IS HANDLED TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE AGREE ON
10:29:56 TODAY.
10:29:57 SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO HAND IT OFF TO MS. GRIMES FOR A
10:30:01 SECOND JUST TO AUGMENT MY POINTS AND THEN WE'LL GIVE IT OVER
10:30:04 TO RUSSELL HAUPERT AND ASHLEY BAUMAN.
10:30:07 >>GINA GRIMES: GOOD MORNING.
10:30:08 GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
10:30:10 JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT JOHN -- MR. BENNETT MENTIONED, AS
10:30:15 YOU KNOW, IT WAS MARCH 12th WHEN THE COUNTY EMERGENCY
10:30:19 POLICY GROUP ISSUED THEIR ORDER OF DECLARING A LOCAL STATE
10:30:23 OF EMERGENCY.
10:30:24 THE MAYOR AND THE CITY OF TAMPA FOLLOWED SUIT THAT SAME DAY.
10:30:29 SINCE THEN, UNDER THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER, SHE IS ABLE
10:30:33 TO EXERCISE CERTAIN LIMITED EMERGENCY POWERS, INCLUDING, AS
10:30:39 JOHN MENTIONED, THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT POWERS AS WELL
10:30:41 AS ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL POWERS, FOR INSTANCE, CLOSING
10:30:46 BEACHES AND CERTAIN RECREATION FACILITIES AND PARKS.
10:30:49 WE HAVE BEEN UNDER THAT FRAMEWORK CONTINUING AS FAR AS
10:30:58 CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE BEEN CONTINUING THE
10:31:02 PROCESS WITH COUNCIL AGENDAS AS IF YOU WERE MEETING, YOU
10:31:08 RECEIVED FROM MR. SHELBY A LIST OF THE AGENDAS THAT HAVE --
10:31:15 SINCE --
10:31:17 >>LUIS VIERA: MS. GRIMES, I APOLOGIZE.
10:31:19 THIS IS COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:31:22 SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE THEIR PHONE ON MUTE.
10:31:24 PLEASE, EVERYBODY, MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PHONE IS ON MUTE, IF
10:31:27 YOU CAN.
10:31:28 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:31:28 I APOLOGIZE.
10:31:30 >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S FINE.
10:31:31 I WAS JUST MENTIONING THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING BASICALLY
10:31:35 PERFORMING THE FUNCTION OF COUNCIL DURING THE PERIOD OF
10:31:40 STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY AND SUBMISSION OF THE AGENDA ITEMS
10:31:45 FOR CITY COUNCIL, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE STAFF REPORTS AND
10:31:50 ORDINANCES, AGREEMENTS, AND SO FORTH.
10:31:53 THEY'VE BEEN STRUCTURED AND FORMATTED AS IF COUNCIL WERE
10:31:56 MEETING.
10:31:57 ONLY THE MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW, GOES THROUGH EACH WEEK AND
10:32:00 EVALUATES WHICH ONES HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND WHICH ONES CAN
10:32:03 BE DEFERRED.
10:32:05 AGAIN, UNDER THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT POWERS, WE HAVE
10:32:10 BEEN CONTINUING TO PERFORM THE FUNCTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL
10:32:13 WOULD OTHERWISE PERFORM.
10:32:14 OF COURSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MEETING IS
10:32:17 TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO RESUME THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND
10:32:21 THOSE DUTIES OR IF YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE TO PERFORM IT.
10:32:24 IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO GET A FINAL DECISION ON
10:32:28 THIS TODAY BECAUSE IN MY VIEW OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF CALLS
10:32:35 WE HAVE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL
10:32:38 COLLECTIVELY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
10:32:40 AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MEETING IS TO HOPEFULLY GET A
10:32:43 FINAL DECISION ON THAT.
10:32:46 DO YOU WANT US TO PROCEED AND HANDLE THIS FOR THE REMAINDER
10:32:50 OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY?
10:32:52 THAT'S FINE.
10:32:53 IF YOU DON'T AND YOU WANT TO RESUME SOME OF YOUR ACTIVITIES,
10:32:57 SOME OF YOUR DUTIES, THEN THAT'S FINE AS WELL.
10:32:59 WE'RE CAPABLE OF HANDLING IT EITHER WAY.
10:33:09 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, MS. GRIMES.
10:33:10 AGAIN, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:33:13 AS YOU HEARD GOING INTO TODAY'S CALL, FOR THAT MATTER, AS WE
10:33:18 SWITCH OVER TO MR. HAUPERT AND MS. BAUMAN TO TALK ABOUT OUR
10:33:22 TECHNOLOGICAL CAPABILITIES, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ASK TO
10:33:25 KEEP IN MIND AS THEY ARE GIVING THAT BRIEFING IS THE LEVEL
10:33:28 OF SERVICE AND THAT CONSISTENT OPPORTUNITY.
10:33:32 AS WE KNOW, TECHNOLOGY IS FAIRLY OBJECTIVE.
10:33:34 IT'S EITHER ON OR OFF.
10:33:36 IT'S SUBJECT TO THE SIDE OF INTERACTING WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY
10:33:39 THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DELIVERY OF
10:33:41 THOSE SERVICES AND IN A CONSISTENT WAY AND, OF COURSE, IN
10:33:45 COMPLIANCE WITH THE LEGAL AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE
10:33:48 SET WITH THE PUBLIC.
10:33:50 WITH THAT RUSSELL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FIRST AND
10:33:54 MS. BAUMAN IS HERE FOR ANY BROADCAST-RELATED QUESTIONS.
10:33:58 >> THANKS, AND I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE
10:34:01 COUNCIL.
10:34:02 I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN OR HAVE AT
10:34:06 OUR DISPOSAL IN ORDER TO DO THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
10:34:10 I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE
10:34:13 THAT WHEN WE PUT ON THESE MEETINGS, WE GENERALLY HAVE AT
10:34:17 LEAST TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE, AT LEAST
10:34:21 TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM CTTV AND AT LEAST TWO
10:34:24 REPRESENTATIVES OF THE I.T. DEPARTMENT THAT WORK IN THE
10:34:26 BACKGROUND TO COORDINATE YOUR MEETINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT
10:34:30 THE TECHNOLOGY YOU USE IS AVAILABLE AND THAT IT CAN BE
10:34:33 BROADCAST IN THE MANNER THAT THE PUBLIC HAS COME TO EXPECT
10:34:37 FROM US.
10:34:38 WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW YOU DO HAVE THOSE THINGS AT YOUR
10:34:40 DISPOSAL.
10:34:41 WE'RE USING THE GO TO WEBINAR PLATFORM.
10:34:44 IT IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE PLATFORMS AVAILABLE AND IT
10:34:47 SUPPORTS A VARIETY OF INTERACTIONS BASED ON THE
10:34:50 PARTICIPANT'S NEEDS.
10:34:52 I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
10:34:57 WITH THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOST RELIABLE,
10:34:59 SIMPLEST WAY FOR FOLKS TO CONNECT.
10:35:01 WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP IN MIND THE REQUIREMENTS OF DIFFERENT
10:35:04 COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PARTICIPANTS AND KEEP THOSE TECHNICAL
10:35:11 REQUIREMENTS LOW SO THAT WE COULD ENSURE FULL QUALITY
10:35:13 PARTICIPATION BY ALL THE MEMBERS.
10:35:14 WITH THAT SAID, WE STAND READY TO ENGAGE IN WHATEVER MANNER
10:35:19 NEEDED IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:35:21 BUT I DID WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE A QUALITY
10:35:24 TECHNICAL PLATFORM.
10:35:26 WE ARE SUBJECT TO SOME OF THE SAME DIFFICULTIES THAT PEOPLE
10:35:31 HAVE EVERY DAY, AS YOU'VE SEEN YESTERDAY OR IN OTHER
10:35:34 MEETINGS.
10:35:34 IF YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION ISN'T WORKING, IF YOUR CELL
10:35:38 PHONE COVERAGE IS A LITTLE LIGHT IN AN AREA, WE MAY HAVE
10:35:41 ISSUES THAT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE IF YOU WERE USING THE
10:35:45 HARDWIRED TECH WE HAVE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
10:35:47 SO I WOULD SAY WE HAVE ENDEAVORED TO BALANCE THOSE NEEDS OF
10:35:51 THE PUBLIC, OF THE COUNCIL, AND OF STAFF HERE ALONG WITH THE
10:35:56 SIMPLEST TECHNICAL SOLUTION THAT WOULD ALLOW TO YOU MOVE
10:35:58 FORWARD.
10:35:59 WITH THAT, I'LL YIELD TO ASHLEY BAUMAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE
10:36:07 QUESTIONS FOR ME.
10:36:08 >>ASHLEY BAUMAN: GOOD MORNING COUNCIL AND GOOD MORNING TO
10:36:11 EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC.
10:36:12 DIGITAL MEDIA PRODUCTIONS STANDS READY TO BROADCAST IN THE
10:36:15 FORMAT OF YOUR CHOOSING.
10:36:16 WE BROADCAST LIVE BOTH ON OUR TV CHANNEL BUT ALSO ON
10:36:19 YouTube, OUR WEBSITE AND Facebook LIVE.
10:36:23 SO AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE LOOK FORWARD TO
10:36:28 PROVIDING A TRANSPARENT VIEWING PLATFORM FOR OUR PUBLIC.
10:36:36 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, ASHLEY AND RUSSELL, FOR THAT.
10:36:39 LASTLY, BEFORE WE HEAD INTO QUESTIONS, I WANT TO TURN IT
10:36:43 OVER TO OUR LEGAL AND CLERK'S OFFICE TO DISCUSS THOSE
10:36:47 PARAMETERS AROUND THE MEETINGS, DEPENDING ON THE VENUES OF
10:36:51 YOUR CHOICE AND THE TECHNOLOGY OF YOUR CHOICE TO MAKE SURE
10:36:53 WE MEET NOT ONLY LEGAL REQUIREMENTS BUT THE LEVELS OF
10:36:56 SERVICE THAT, AS RUSSELL MENTIONED, ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE
10:37:00 PUBLIC'S EXPECTATIONS.
10:37:01 MS. GRIMES?
10:37:05 >>GINA GRIMES: YES.
10:37:07 GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
10:37:08 THE PRINCIPAL LEGAL REQUIREMENT IN HAVING THE VIRTUAL
10:37:16 MEETING, ALL MEETINGS HAVE TO BE -- ARE SUBJECT TO THE
10:37:21 SUNSHINE LAW.
10:37:22 THERE HAS TO BE REASONABLE NOTICE.
10:37:25 THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, AND THERE HAS TO
10:37:29 BE MINUTES TAKEN.
10:37:30 THOSE ARE THE THREE REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY IN EVERY
10:37:33 MEETING.
10:37:34 IT'S THAT COMPONENT THAT REQUIRES OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
10:37:41 FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE SOME SORT OF INTERACTION ON THE
10:37:46 SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS THAT MIGHT BE APPROVED.
10:37:49 AND THAT IS FURTHER REITERATED IN STATE STATUTE 286 THAT
10:37:55 TALKS ABOUT THE PUBLIC BEING GIVEN A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
10:37:58 TO BE HEARD.
10:37:59 SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES THESE VIRTUAL MEETINGS SOMEWHAT
10:38:03 DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BASICALLY OPEN IT UP TO A
10:38:07 NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS, THE IDENTITY OF WHICH WE MAY NOT
10:38:12 EVEN KNOW.
10:38:13 WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR IN AN AUDIO-ONLY VIRTUAL MODE, IS
10:38:19 WE'VE GIVEN THE PUBLIC VARIOUS DIFFERENT METHODS TO
10:38:22 PARTICIPATE.
10:38:23 THEY CAN CALL AND LEAVE A VOICE MAIL, THEY CAN SEND AN
10:38:26 E-MAIL, THEY CAN SEND SOMETHING IN WRITING.
10:38:29 THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS WOULD BE TO ALLOW THEM SOME
10:38:33 OPPORTUNITY TO CALL IN, REGISTER, IF YOU WILL, AND CALL IN,
10:38:39 BE HEARD AT THE TIME THE AGENDA ITEM IS BEING CONSIDERED.
10:38:44 THAT'S NOT AN ACTION THAT WE HAVE TAKEN YET SO FAR.
10:38:50 RUSSELL HAS EXPLAINED THAT THIS PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE WOULD
10:38:54 ALLOW THAT TO OCCUR.
10:38:58 BUT AS WE PROVIDE MORE AND MORE OPTIONS, YOU HAVE TO
10:39:03 UNDERSTAND IT CREATES MORE AND MORE RISK OF TECHNICAL
10:39:08 DIFFICULTIES AND ISSUES RELATED TO THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO
10:39:10 PARTICIPATE.
10:39:11 IT'S BASICALLY A RISK ANALYSIS WITH ALL THIS.
10:39:14 THE MORE COMPLEX THAT WE MAKE THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS, THE
10:39:20 HIGHER THE RISK THAT THERE WILL BE DIFFICULTIES THAT COULD
10:39:25 UNDERMINE THE VALIDITY, LEGALITY OF THE MEETINGS.
10:39:28 WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:39:31 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR NOT, OR MR.
10:39:34 BENNETT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
10:39:36 >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK THE CLERK HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
10:39:39 SPEAK.
10:39:40 SHIRLEY.
10:39:41 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING.
10:39:44 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
10:39:47 GINA EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL.
10:39:49 WE HAVE SET UP DOWN STAIRS IN THE SISTER CITIES ROOM AN
10:39:53 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND PROVIDE THOSE
10:39:57 COMMENTS.
10:39:58 SO THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
10:40:02 INDIVIDUALS CAN CALL IN AND REGISTER TO PROVIDE COMMENT.
10:40:11 THAT HAS BEEN DONE ALSO.
10:40:14 WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING AND GINA HAS EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL.
10:40:18 THANK YOU.
10:40:25 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, SHIRLEY, FOR THAT.
10:40:27 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF, CITY OF TAMPA.
10:40:29 MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU AND CITY COUNCIL FOR
10:40:31 QUESTIONS AS WELL AS MARTY.
10:40:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THERE QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL
10:40:45 REGARDING THE ISSUE?
10:40:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:40:47 I WAS GOING TO DO THAT.
10:40:48 SORRY, MY PHONE WENT ON SILENT.
10:40:51 IT GOT IN LOCKDOWN MODE.
10:40:54 COUNCIL MEMBERS, LET'S DO ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
10:40:57 IF YOU NEED TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S FINE.
10:40:59 WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE STARTING WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:41:02 ONE THING TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS REALLY, REALLY FAST BEFORE,
10:41:06 I'D LOVE FOR US -- WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A
10:41:09 WHILE.
10:41:10 I'D LOVE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MEET FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL AND
10:41:13 APPEAL HEARINGS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:41:16 I KNOW BEFORE THAT, THIS WAS UP IN THE AIR BECAUSE OF THE
10:41:21 PROSPECT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER BEING USED FOR OVERFLOW
10:41:25 FOR THE HOSPITAL.
10:41:25 THANK GOODNESS THAT'S NOT APPARENTLY HAPPENING.
10:41:28 THINGS MAY CHANGE.
10:41:29 BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE.
10:41:33 JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY.
10:41:35 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:41:43 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE
10:41:44 PARTICIPATION AND HELP FOR PUTTING THE MEETINGS BACK
10:41:47 TOGETHER.
10:41:48 ONE, I THINK WE SHOULD GET BACK TO A NORMAL SCHEDULE.
10:41:53 I THINK IF WE SCHEDULE MEETINGS AT 9:00 ON THURSDAY MORNINGS
10:41:56 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE PUBLIC EXPECTS IT.
10:41:58 WE OUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE LEAVE PLENTY OF TIME.
10:42:02 I KNOW SOME OF THE STAFF, CHIEF BENNETT AND OTHERS, HAVE TO
10:42:05 GET OUT TO GO TO OTHER MEETINGS, BUT FOR OURSELVES AND FOR
10:42:09 SETTING DISCUSSIONS, WE MAY WANT TO ALLOW MORE TIME.
10:42:14 I THINK SOMEBODY SAID IT ON THE CALL LAST WEEK, IF WE THINK
10:42:17 IT WILL TAKE AN HOUR, BOOK A COUPLE OF HOURS SO WE HAVE
10:42:20 PLENTY OF TIME.
10:42:21 NEXT, YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
10:42:24 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, OF COURSE, IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
10:42:26 THING.
10:42:27 IT IS THE REASON WHY WE DO ALL THIS.
10:42:29 WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR INFORMATION.
10:42:31 WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GIVE US THEIR
10:42:33 INPUT.
10:42:34 SO ALL THE METHODS THAT YOU ALL ARE PROVIDING.
10:42:38 THE MORE WE CAN GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO RESPOND OR GIVE
10:42:42 COMMENTS IN A WAY LIVE WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
10:42:45 AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ADVERTISE THOSE AND PROMOTE
10:42:49 THOSE IN ADVANCE.
10:42:50 NEXT WEEK, WE HAVE THE BAYSHORE AND -- TAMPA WORKSHOP.
10:42:55 HOPEFULLY AFTER TODAY'S MEETING, WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT ON
10:42:58 THAT QUICKLY SO WE'LL GET LOTS OF PUBLIC INFORMATION ON
10:43:00 THAT.
10:43:01 FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN
10:43:05 CHALLENGING, AND I ASSUME THAT IF WE CAN SHOW PowerPoints
10:43:12 ON OUR VIDEO STREAM, THAT WE ARE USING A COMPUTER AND WE
10:43:15 COULD RUN ANY SYSTEM ON THAT AND MAYBE THERE WILL BE
10:43:19 TECHNICAL CHALLENGES THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
10:43:21 BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING I THINK GO TO MEETING.
10:43:25 THERE'S ZOOM.
10:43:27 THERE'S MICROSOFT TEAMS.
10:43:29 THERE'S WebEx.
10:43:30 THERE ARE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS THAT I WONDER TO THE
10:43:33 EXTENT AT WHICH WE'VE LOOKED AT ANY OF THOSE.
10:43:35 AS YOU LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES AND GOVERNMENTS ARE DOING,
10:43:39 LIKE ST. PETE CITY COUNCIL IS ON ZOOM.
10:43:41 I'M NOT PROMOTING ANY PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM.
10:43:44 AND I LIKE MEETING WITH A T-SHIRT ON THE PHONE, BUT I THINK
10:43:48 CONSIDERING THAT THE EPG AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE
10:43:51 ON VIDEO THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD AT LEAST DO THE SAME AND
10:43:55 TRY TO FIND A PLATFORM THAT ALLOWS FOR PUBLIC INPUT BUT ALSO
10:43:59 ALLOWS US TO INTERFACE WITH EACH OTHER AND PRESENT OURSELVES
10:44:04 TO THE PUBLIC.
10:44:05 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
10:44:06 THANK YOU.
10:44:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:44:11 FOR THE RECORD, I'M WEARING A SUIT.
10:44:12 I'M JOKING.
10:44:13 NEXT, COUNCILMAN CITRO, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:44:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, CHAIR, THAT WAS KIND OF FUNNY.
10:44:22 BUT FOR THE RECORD, I AM WEARING A SUIT.
10:44:24 I HAVE SPOKEN WITH LEGAL STAFF AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
10:44:29 ADMINISTRATION, AND I'M HOPING TO GET BACK TO MEETINGS VERY,
10:44:33 VERY SOON.
10:44:34 I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THEM ON EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE SO
10:44:37 FAR.
10:44:37 MY COMMENT, MR. CHAIR, AND BOARD MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS,
10:44:41 IS THAT THIS IS A LEARNING LESSON.
10:44:43 I FEEL IT'S A NECESSITY THAT NO MATTER WHAT THE NEXT CRISIS
10:44:51 IS, HOPEFULLY IN SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE
10:44:54 COVID CRISIS, BUT PROBABLY IT MIGHT BE A HURRICANE THAT WE
10:45:00 NEED TO BE READY AND SET TO GO FOR OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
10:45:07 SOMEWHERE THAT WILL BE HIGH AND DRY.
10:45:10 SOMEWHERE THAT WILL HAVE THE CAPABILITY FOR BOTH AUDIO AND
10:45:14 VIDEO, AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO BROADCAST OUR MEETINGS AND
10:45:19 OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
10:45:23 TWO PLACES THAT COME TO MIND, RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM OR USF
10:45:26 AREA.
10:45:27 BOTH HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES NOT ONLY FOR AUDIO, FOR VIDEO
10:45:31 AND BROADCASTING.
10:45:32 MR. CHAIR AND EVERYBODY THAT IS LISTENING TO THIS, I HOPE
10:45:37 THAT WE CAN TAKE AND LEARN FROM THIS CRISIS SO THAT THE NEXT
10:45:42 TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS OCCURS, A STATE OF EMERGENCY, WE
10:45:47 CAN BE READY AND SET TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS AT SOMEWHERE
10:45:52 THAT'S COMPLEMENTARY TO OUR NEEDS.
10:45:55 MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:56 THAT'S IT FOR ME, NOW.
10:45:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:45:59 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
10:46:00 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:46:01 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:46:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:46:05 MR. CHAIRMAN, I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:46:09 I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE QUASI-JUDICIAL
10:46:11 DISCUSSION, I GUESS, IN A LITTLE BIT.
10:46:13 BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE PLANNING QUASI-JUDICIAL
10:46:21 MEETINGS IN THE CONVENTION CENTER IF IT'S AVAILABLE IN JUNE.
10:46:27 I THINK REALLY HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
10:46:30 HOPEFULLY IN JUNE ANTICIPATING SOME LEVEL OF SOCIAL
10:46:35 DISTANCING, BUT GET BACK TO DOING THOSE.
10:46:43 SOMEBODY'S MUTE IS NOT ON.
10:46:46 I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR A LIST OF -- I
10:46:54 KNOW WE'VE BEEN KEEPING TRACK OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THE
10:46:59 MAYOR HAS BEEN APPROVING UNDER HER SPECIAL POWERS, BUT I'VE
10:47:05 ALSO BEEN ASKING FOR A LIST OF NON-AGENDA ITEMS.
10:47:10 FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE
10:47:13 HOMELESS CITY, BUT IT OBVIOUSLY COSTS MONEY AND IT CAME OUT
10:47:18 OF CERTAIN -- THAT MONEY CAME FROM A CERTAIN DIRECTION.
10:47:21 THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE.
10:47:25 SIMILARLY, THE MAYOR HAS DONE A GREAT JOB TO MAKE SURE OUR
10:47:29 POLICE AND FIRE AND OTHER FOLKS HAVE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE
10:47:32 EQUIPMENT.
10:47:34 BUT, AGAIN, THAT COSTS MONEY AND IT CAME OUT OF A CERTAIN
10:47:39 POCKET.
10:47:40 ANYWAY, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A LIST OF THOSE ITEMS, THOSE
10:47:44 ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE AN UPDATE
10:47:48 FROM OUR FINANCIAL FOLKS, MR. ROGERO OR MR. MASSEY ON WHEN
10:47:54 WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT LIST.
10:47:56 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE THEY ENTER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE,
10:47:59 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID SOMETHING.
10:48:00 SOMEBODY HAS THEIR PHONE AND IT'S NOT ON MUTE.
10:48:04 WE'RE HEARING SOMETHING.
10:48:05 PLEASE, EVERYBODY, CHECK THAT IF YOU WOULD.
10:48:08 CHECK BEFORE YOU WRECK.
10:48:13 >>JOHN BENNETT: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF
10:48:15 STAFF.
10:48:16 IF I CAN RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S REQUEST.
10:48:20 FIRST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL RECEIVED THE MEMO
10:48:23 DATED APRIL 17th, LAST FRIDAY, THAT WAS AN AGGREGATION OF
10:48:28 EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE UNDER THE EMERGENCY POWERS IN
10:48:33 ADDITION TO THOSE ACTIONS THAT TRADITIONALLY WOULD GO
10:48:36 THROUGH COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF AN EMERGENCY.
10:48:38 AND IF WE CHECK THAT BOX IN CONCURRENCE, THEN I'M OPEN TO
10:48:43 DISCUSS OR GET ANY OTHER MATERIALS TO COUNCIL THAT'S BEING
10:48:48 REQUESTED.
10:48:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BENNETT, YOU'RE REFERRING TO
10:48:55 SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT LAST FRIDAY THAT IS THE TYPE OF LIST
10:49:00 THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
10:49:03 I MUST NOT HAVE SEEN IT.
10:49:05 I APOLOGIZE.
10:49:05 I WILL LOOK FOR IT AND CIRCLE BACK IF THAT DOESN'T MEET MY
10:49:12 REQUIREMENT.
10:49:13 THANK YOU.
10:49:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:16 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:49:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, SIR.
10:49:22 EXCEPT I CONCUR WITH YOU ON I THINK THE CONVENTION CENTER IS
10:49:25 A GREAT VENUE FOR US.
10:49:26 WE'VE USED IT IN THE PAST AS COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
10:49:31 I THINK IT GIVES PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SPREAD OUT
10:49:36 AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO DO THAT.
10:49:38 IN THE ALTERNATIVE, WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO SOME OTHER
10:49:42 TYPES OF LARGE STUDIO SPACES, PERHAPS WEDU OR EVEN THE
10:49:48 AMALIE ARENA AS A LARGE VENUE.
10:49:51 THANK YOU.
10:49:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:49:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
10:49:59 AGAIN.
10:49:59 I JUST WANT TO SAY I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING HARD
10:50:02 WITH ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING ON AND THINGS THAT WE
10:50:05 ARE DOING.
10:50:05 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND ALSO TO
10:50:08 THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO I KNOW ARE WORKING VERY HARD BEHIND
10:50:11 THE SCENES.
10:50:12 LAST WEEK, I TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS SAYING, I
10:50:17 WANT TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT COUNCIL IS WORKING.
10:50:20 IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE UNDER THE GUN WITH SOME THINGS AND
10:50:23 CHALLENGES.
10:50:24 FOR ME, IT'S GETTING BACK TO WORK.
10:50:26 I'M A PUBLIC SERVANT.
10:50:27 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.
10:50:29 I LIKE BEING OUT WHERE THE ACTION IS AND WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW
10:50:32 I'M WORKING.
10:50:33 AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE HAD OTHER REQUESTS OF
10:50:36 UTILIZATION OF OTHER FACILITIES.
10:50:37 I'M LOOKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND A POINT TO SAY WE
10:50:42 HAVE A PLACE TO GO AND GET BACK TO WORK AND WORK FOR THE
10:50:44 PEOPLE.
10:50:47 TECHNOLOGY HAS CHALLENGES AS WELL.
10:50:48 CHALLENGE FOR US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE.
10:50:53 LET'S GET IT TO MAKE EVERYTHING WORK.
10:50:57 THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR ME.
10:50:59 I WANT TO GET BACK TO WORK SO THE COUNCIL CAN GET BACK TO
10:51:02 THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE.
10:51:03 THANK YOU.
10:51:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN.
10:51:06 NEXT WE GO TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:51:08 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:51:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:51:11 GUIDO MANISCALCO HERE.
10:51:14 I, AGAIN, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HARD WORK AND THE IN-DEPTH
10:51:18 DETAIL AND WHATNOT.
10:51:19 I KNOW WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.
10:51:21 THIS IS SOMETHING NEW AND WE'RE DOING IT DAY BY DAY AND
10:51:24 TRYING TO FIND THE BEST SOLUTION.
10:51:26 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GET BACK TO WORK.
10:51:30 WE SAID THE CONVENTION CENTER OVER AND OVER.
10:51:32 THAT IS A GREAT PLACE WITH PLENTY OF SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE
10:51:36 SOCIAL DISTANCING AND TAKING PROPER PREVENTIVE MEASURES
10:51:39 WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE DOING OUR WORK AND WE'RE NO LONGER
10:51:43 DELAYED AND WHATNOT.
10:51:44 I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING BACK TO WORK AND SEEING EVERYONE
10:51:49 ALL TOGETHER BUT, OF COURSE, SPREAD OUT AND USING THE BEST
10:51:53 SOCIAL DISTANCING PRACTICES AND WHATNOT.
10:51:55 AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HARD WORK.
10:51:57 THAT'S IT FOR ME.
10:51:58 THANK YOU.
10:51:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN.
10:52:01 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:02 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:52:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:52:04 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
10:52:05 I'M JUST LISTENING TO ALL THE CONVERSATION.
10:52:07 THANK YOU.
10:52:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:52:10 I REALLY HAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN TO SAY WITH THE TAMPA
10:52:14 CONVENTION CENTER, I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG CHALLENGES IS
10:52:18 HAVING AREAS SANITIZED BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MANY WONDERFUL
10:52:22 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE VERY GENEROUS AND WANT TO
10:52:26 HIGHLIGHT AREAS OF THE CITY, TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT FACILITIES
10:52:31 AND AREAS WHERE WE CAN MEET.
10:52:33 BUT THE BIG CHALLENGE IS HAVING THOSE AREAS SANITIZED AND
10:52:37 CLEANED.
10:52:38 THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER,
10:52:40 SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY UNDER OUR -- SO MUCH OF OUR CONTROL,
10:52:43 AND WE CAN MANAGE THAT AND HAVE A SAY ON THAT.
10:52:47 JUST MY THOUGHTS THERE.
10:52:49 OKAY.
10:52:52 HAVING NOTHING ELSE THERE, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT
10:52:55 ITEM.
10:52:55 CHIEF BENNETT.
10:52:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
10:52:58 MR. CHAIRMAN?
10:52:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, YES, SIR.
10:52:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:53:00 GOING BACK TO THE EMERGENCY RULES, I BELIEVE IF WE ASK THE
10:53:05 CLERK, THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC
10:53:08 COMMENT.
10:53:09 >>THE CLERK: YES.
10:53:12 I WAS NOTIFIED THAT MR. TOM RASK WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE
10:53:17 WALK-ON ITEM AND HE SHOULD BE ON THE LINE.
10:53:19 >>LUIS VIERA: WHO IS THAT?
10:53:22 >>THE CLERK: MR. TOM RASK.
10:53:25 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:53:26 THREE MINUTES AS ALWAYS.
10:53:28 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:53:30 THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE.
10:53:31 >> YES.
10:53:32 GOOD MORNING.
10:53:33 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:53:34 I WANT TO START BY REMINDING EVERYONE THAT -- ABOUT THE
10:53:41 PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO BE HEARD ON ANY PROPOSITION BEFORE THIS
10:53:44 COUNCIL, AND THAT'S BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THE PROPOSITION.
10:53:47 THAT IS A STATUTORY RIGHT UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE 2860114
10:53:52 SUBSECTION 2.
10:53:54 THE SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH BOTH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE
10:53:57 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY HAVE TAKEN THE ISSUE OF THIS RIGHT IS
10:54:02 WHY I AM ON THIS CALL RIGHT NOW.
10:54:04 ONCE THIS ITEM CAME UP, I CONTACTED MR. SHELBY AND SAID I
10:54:08 WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS, AND HE MADE THAT POSSIBLE.
10:54:11 THE PUBLIC CONTINUES TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK UNDER THE
10:54:16 DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY.
10:54:17 THAT IS NOT A RIGHT THAT A GUBERNATORIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER CAN
10:54:20 QUASH.
10:54:21 THAT BRINGS ME TO EXACTLY THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE.
10:54:25 PLEASE COMPARE THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER 2068 AND 2069.
10:54:31 EO 68 CLOSES THE BARS, AND YOU WILL SEE THE GOVERNOR CITED
10:54:37 SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORITY DOWN TO THE SUBSECTION OF THE
10:54:40 SUBSECTION FOR WHY HE COULD DO WHAT HE DID, AND HE HAS THE
10:54:44 RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID.
10:54:45 HOWEVER, IN 2069 THE GOVERNOR SAID THAT HE HAS THAT
10:54:50 AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT HE'S DOING UNDER CHAPTER 252.
10:54:54 HOWEVER, THAT CHAPTER IS 26,000 WORDS LONG, AND IT IS EO
10:54:59 2069 THAT PURPORTEDLY GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO VOTE IN THESE
10:55:04 KINDS OF VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
10:55:05 I DON'T SEE THAT AUTHORITY IN CHAPTER 252.
10:55:12 SPECIFIC STATUTE MENTIONED IN 252 THAT A GOVERNOR CAN WAIVE
10:55:15 UNDER A DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY.
10:55:18 THE REQUIREMENT THAT A PHYSICAL QUORUM BE PRESENT IS NOT ONE
10:55:21 OF THEM.
10:55:21 AND I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED BY THE DEPTH OF THE DISCUSSION
10:55:26 RIGHT NOW AND YOUR PLANS TO GO TO SOME KIND OF PHYSICAL
10:55:29 QUORUM.
10:55:30 I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU DON'T CONTINUE IT AT TODAY'S MEETING.
10:55:34 I AM SUGGESTING THAT CITY ATTORNEY GRIMES PRODUCE HER OWN
10:55:38 INDEPENDENT LIST AND ANALYSIS OF WHETHER EO 2069 IS LAWFUL
10:55:43 BECAUSE I REALLY QUESTION THAT.
10:55:45 AND I WANT TO SAY FURTHER, IT IS WISE TO LIMIT THE DECISIONS
10:55:50 YOU MAKE IN THESE VIRTUAL MEETINGS THAT DO NOT HAVE A
10:55:53 PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
10:55:55 I DO APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND
10:55:58 OTHERS -- I AM SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR THEIR NAMES -- THAT YOU
10:56:03 GO TO VIDEO TECHNOLOGY.
10:56:04 BECAUSE OTHERWISE -- AND THIS MIGHT SOUND RIDICULOUS --
10:56:07 OTHERWISE THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHETHER THE
10:56:10 PERSON WHO GIVES THEIR NAME, IS THAT REALLY THE PERSON
10:56:15 VOTING?
10:56:16 AGAIN, IF THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD PROVIDE HER OWN WRITTEN,
10:56:20 INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS ON THE LEGALITY OF THIS, I THINK YOU
10:56:24 WOULD BE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE.
10:56:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:26 I'LL STOP THERE.
10:56:28 >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, IF I MAY, MAY WE PLEASE HAVE YOUR NAME?
10:56:32 >> TOM RASK, R-A-S-K.
10:56:37 I LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED PINELLAS COUNTY.
10:56:39 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, SIR.
10:56:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:41 WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS.
10:56:43 ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:56:46 MARTY, SULING, NOBODY?
10:56:48 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE.
10:56:49 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:56:49 GREAT.
10:56:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:50 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
10:56:52 CHIEF BENNETT, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:56:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU STILL BACK ON 1, COUNCIL?
10:56:59 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, MARTY.
10:57:00 DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, SIR?
10:57:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M WONDERING WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND
10:57:04 MOTION ON THE FLOOR IF YOU WANT TO TAKE UP THE RULES, IF
10:57:07 COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE IT UP TODAY OR MAKE ANY OTHER MOTION
10:57:11 IN ORDER, OTHER THAN THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:57:13 MADAM CLERK, YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR?
10:57:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:57:17 AND THAT'S CORRECT.
10:57:19 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ARE YOU STILL GOOD WITH MAKING THAT
10:57:22 MOTION?
10:57:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD WITH MAKING THE MOTION.
10:57:24 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:57:25 AND COUNCILMAN CITRO, ARE YOU STILL GOOD WITH SECONDING
10:57:27 THAT, SIR?
10:57:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM STILL GOOD WITH SECONDING THAT, MR.
10:57:32 CHAIR.
10:57:32 >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
10:57:33 NOW ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL?
10:57:35 I DON'T THINK SO, BUT ANY DISCUSSION?
10:57:36 OKAY.
10:57:39 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:57:40 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:57:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:57:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A ROLL CALL.
10:57:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
10:57:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BY THE WAY, THE RULES YOU JUST ADOPTED DO
10:57:54 CALL FOR A ROLL CALL.
10:57:55 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL, THERE YOU GO.
10:57:57 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:57:58 >>THE CLERK: ROLL-CALL VOTE.
10:58:00 CARLSON?
10:58:00 >>BILL CARLSON: AYE.
10:58:02 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
10:58:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:58:07 AYE.
10:58:09 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
10:58:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER, YES.
10:58:12 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
10:58:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:58:15 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
10:58:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:58:18 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
10:58:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:58:21 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
10:58:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:58:24 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH GUDES
10:58:27 MAKING THE MOTION AND CITRO SECONDING IT.
10:58:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, THAT IS YOUR FIRST OFFICIAL ACTION
10:58:34 THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN VIRTUALLY.
10:58:36 CONGRATULATIONS.
10:58:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:58:39 WORK ON THAT AND MR. MASSEY FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.
10:58:42 WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
10:58:44 CHIEF BENNETT, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:58:48 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
10:58:50 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:58:52 TO WRAP UP AGENDA ITEM 1, I JUST WANT TO FRAME UP THAT SOME
10:58:57 OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY COUNCILMEN ABOUT OUR TECHNOLOGICAL
10:59:02 OPTIONS, WHICH IS REALLY THE SPIRIT OF NUMBER 1 AND THE
10:59:05 MEETING SEQUENCE WHICH REALLY COMES DOWN TO COUNCIL'S
10:59:12 PREFERENCES IN COMPATIBILITY WITH THE TECHNOLOGICAL OPTIONS.
10:59:14 THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS STOOD READY AND AVAILABLE FOR
10:59:18 PHYSICAL MEETINGS, BUT WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE RISK FACTORS
10:59:22 OF COMING THERE STERILIZATION, CLIMATE CONTROL, COSTS,
10:59:26 ET CETERA.
10:59:27 SO IT IS AN OPTION.
10:59:29 AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO LOOK TO THE BROADCAST
10:59:32 CAPABILITIES THERE TO USE THAT VENUE.
10:59:35 SECONDLY, KEEPING THE RELIABILITY OF THE TECHNOLOGICAL
10:59:41 PLATFORMS USED THROUGH THE CHAMBER, WHETHER IT'S VIDEO,
10:59:44 AUDIO ONLY, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR CONTENT.
10:59:49 THAT'S NOT BEEN AN ISSUE.
10:59:50 WE CAN BRING UP EXTERNAL CONTENT, INTERNAL CONTENT.
10:59:54 WE HAVE USED THE SLIDES OF THE COUNCILMEN FOR CONSISTENCY AS
10:59:57 WELL AS STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CONSISTENT PROFESSIONAL
11:00:00 VIEW TO THE PUBLIC.
11:00:02 ONCE AGAIN, ANYTIME YOU ADD AN APPLICATION, A COMPUTER
11:00:08 INTERFACE IN ADDITION TO THE AUDIO AND YOU'RE JUGGLING THREE
11:00:14 MUTE BUTTONS, THE VIDEO ASPECT, THE BACKGROUND OF THE VIDEO,
11:00:18 ALL OF THOSE THINGS CREATE AN ADDITIONAL RISK FACTOR.
11:00:21 WE'RE ABLE TO ENTERTAIN ALL OF THOSE.
11:00:23 IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COUNCIL'S PREFERENCE ON HOW YOU WANT
11:00:25 TO GO FORWARD.
11:00:26 WITH THAT, I CAN MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 2, WHICH TO READ IT,
11:00:32 THE METHODOLOGY OF THE CLERK, LEGAL, AND THE COUNCIL
11:00:35 ATTORNEY WILL USE TO DETERMINE HOW AND WHEN DEFERRED AGENDA
11:00:38 ITEMS ARE BROUGHT FORTH TO THE CITY COUNCIL, INCLUDING A
11:00:41 SUBLIST OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, LEGISLATIVE ORDINANCES,
11:00:44 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS INCLUDING REZONINGS AND REVIEW
11:00:48 HEARINGS, STAFF REPORTS, WORKSHOP ITEMS, CEREMONIAL ITEMS
11:00:51 AND PRESENTATIONS.
11:00:53 WITH THAT, I WILL START OUT WITH THE CLERK.
11:00:56 SHIRLEY?
11:00:59 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
11:01:00 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
11:01:02 MOST OF THE CONSENT ITEMS FROM THE COUNCIL MEETINGS OF MARCH
11:01:08 19, APRIL 2nd, AND APRIL 16 WERE APPROVED BY THE MAYOR
11:01:14 THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER 2020-01.
11:01:17 A LISTING OF THE DEFERRED ITEMS NOT APPROVED WERE GIVEN TO
11:01:22 EACH OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:01:24 THE INFORMATIONAL DOCUMENT WERE ENTITLED AMENDED REGULAR
11:01:30 ACTION SUMMARIES AND INCLUDE AGENDA ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN
11:01:35 DEFERRED.
11:01:36 STAFF REPORTS WERE NOT ADDRESSED.
11:01:39 THERE ARE AGENDA ITEMS TO BE RESCHEDULED FROM THE NIGHT
11:01:43 MEETINGS OF MARCH 26th AND APRIL 9th.
11:01:47 FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN
11:01:55 EXECUTED BY THE MAYOR.
11:01:59 THE LEGISLATIVE ORDINANCES ARE TO BE RESCHEDULED.
11:02:04 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS, INCLUDING REZONINGS AND REVIEW
11:02:09 HEARINGS, THOSE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:02:11 COORDINATION.
11:02:13 STAFF REPORTS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WERE NOT ADDRESSED.
11:02:17 WORKSHOP ITEMS ARE TO BE RESET TO A FUTURE MEETING, AND, OF
11:02:24 COURSE, CEREMONIAL ITEMS AND PRESENTATIONS HAVE TO BE
11:02:28 RESCHEDULED.
11:02:29 THAT'S IT FOR RIGHT NOW.
11:02:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:02:38 MARTIN SHELBY HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:02:41 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:02:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:02:44 DOES CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS OR IS
11:02:48 THIS THE POINT WHERE COUNCIL CAN GET INTO THE DISCUSSION
11:02:51 AMONGST THEMSELVES ABOUT HOW TO APPROACH THESE?
11:02:58 >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:03:00 I'M GOING TO GIVE IT OVER TO GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY FOR
11:03:04 A MOMENT.
11:03:04 >>GINA GRIMES: MR. SHELBY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I BELIEVE
11:03:08 THAT OF THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT YOU WANT US TO ADDRESS, MR.
11:03:11 SHELBY WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS,
11:03:14 LEGISLATIVE ORDINANCES, STAFF REPORTS, WORKSHOP ITEMS AND
11:03:17 CEREMONIAL ITEMS AND PRESENTATIONS AND I'LL LET HIM LEAD
11:03:20 THAT DISCUSSION.
11:03:21 I WANTED TO AGAIN ADDRESS THE QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER
11:03:25 INVOLVING REZONINGS AND REVIEW HEARINGS.
11:03:28 IF AND WHEN THOSE SHOULD BE RESUMED.
11:03:32 BUT I WILL DEFER TO MARTY AND LET HIM GO FIRST.
11:03:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MS. GRIMES.
11:03:40 WITH REGARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, IT APPEARS THAT
11:03:45 THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE BACKLOGGED ARE LISTED IN THE CLERK'S
11:03:54 DOCUMENTS AND ARE ABLE TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
11:03:56 YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THESE IN THE PAST AND
11:04:00 THE WAY THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE
11:04:03 STRUCTURED THIS, THEY HAVE KEPT THESE ITEMS COMING IN
11:04:07 THROUGH SIRE, AND YOU'VE HAD THOSE OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THE
11:04:11 MAYOR GAVE CITY COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE SHE TOOK
11:04:17 ACTION TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND HAVE THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
11:04:20 IN THAT REGARD, CITY COUNCIL HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
11:04:24 REVIEW THE BACKLOGGED ITEMS UP UNTIL THIS POINT.
11:04:27 IF COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE THOSE MOVE FORWARD ON A FUTURE
11:04:31 AGENDA, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY THEY WANT ON THE ITEMS.
11:04:36 I HAVE NOT COUNTED HOW MANY THERE ARE.
11:04:38 IT COULD BE SPLIT OVER A COUPLE OF AGENDAS IF THAT'S
11:04:41 COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
11:04:43 THAT IS AN OPTION CERTAINLY TO DO IT.
11:04:45 WITH REGARD TO MOVING FORWARD, IF COUNCIL DOES TAKE THE
11:04:49 SUGGESTION TO RETURN TO REGULARLY CALENDARED, REGULAR
11:04:56 SCHEDULED 9 A.M. MEETINGS ON THURSDAYS, THOSE DAYS THAT HAVE
11:04:58 CONSENT ITEMS ARE ALREADY SET UP TO GO THROUGH SIRE.
11:05:01 THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH AVAILABLE TO BE PICKED UP WHERE YOU
11:05:04 LEFT OFF.
11:05:05 THE ONLY CAVEAT, COUNCIL AND SOMETHING YOU MAY HAVE TO
11:05:08 DISCUSS WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION, IS
11:05:15 THE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO STAFF RESOURCES ON THE HEARING
11:05:19 DAYS -- EXCUSE ME, ON THE COUNCIL DAYS, SO THAT THE STAFF IS
11:05:22 NOT TAKING UP THEIR TIME WAITING ON THE PHONE TO BE ABLE TO
11:05:25 ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
11:05:27 COUNCIL MAY NEED TO DISCUSS HOW THEY ARE GOING TO HANDLE
11:05:30 THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, BECAUSE THAT MAY NOT BE WELL-SUITED
11:05:34 TO A VIRTUAL MEETING.
11:05:35 I'M GOING TO STOP THERE AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS
11:05:38 OR COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.
11:05:42 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:05:42 SO NO OTHER PRESENTATIONS ON ITEM 2?
11:05:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
11:05:48 WE'RE ON 2A.
11:05:50 >>LUIS VIERA: 2A, EXCUSE ME.
11:05:52 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:05:54 WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE.
11:05:55 LET'S GO BACKWARDS.
11:05:57 I HAVE NONE MYSELF.
11:05:58 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ANYTHING, SIR?
11:06:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- SIR.
11:06:04 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING?
11:06:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:06:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:06:07 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
11:06:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
11:06:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:06:11 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ANYTHING, SIR?
11:06:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
11:06:16 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?
11:06:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A COMMENT.
11:06:25 I DON'T REALLY SEE THE POINT IN REVISITING THE LAST WHATEVER
11:06:32 IT IS, TWO OR THREE AGENDAS FOR THE ITEMS THAT THE MAYOR HAS
11:06:36 ALREADY APPROVED FROM THE CONSENT.
11:06:42 THAT ACTION HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN.
11:06:45 THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE TYPICALLY ALREADY BEEN SIGNED AND
11:06:48 MOVING FORWARD.
11:06:48 I JUST THINK IT'S PROBABLY A SORT OF WASTE OF TIME AND
11:06:53 EFFORT FOR COUNCIL TO REVISIT THOSE.
11:06:55 THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
11:06:56 IN REGARD TO MOVING FORWARD, I DON'T SEE ANY GREAT NEED FOR
11:07:03 US TO BE VISUAL TO EACH OTHER AS LONG AS THERE'S SECURITY IN
11:07:08 PLACE THAT ONLY THE SEVEN OF US HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO
11:07:16 VERBALIZE OUR VOTE AND CAN'T BE SOME STRANGER JUMPING INTO
11:07:21 OUR MEETING.
11:07:23 SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ON THAT OBVIOUSLY, AS THE GENTLEMAN
11:07:27 POINTED OUT.
11:07:28 OTHER THAN THAT, IF THAT SECURITY IS IN PLACE AND RUSSELL
11:07:31 AND CHIEF BENNETT ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND MS. GRIMES,
11:07:34 THEN I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY REASON FOR US TO GO VISUAL
11:07:38 BECAUSE I THINK GOING VISUAL DOES COMPLICATE MATTERS IN
11:07:44 REGARD TO THE TECHNOLOGY.
11:07:46 OBVIOUSLY, WE JUST PROVED WE'RE ABLE TO HOLD A MEETING AND
11:07:51 WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS.
11:07:52 NOW WE'VE PROVED WE'RE ABLE TO VOTE WITHOUT BEING VISUAL.
11:07:57 AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS, I DON'T THINK IT'S
11:08:01 NECESSARY.
11:08:02 THAT'S ALL.
11:08:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:08:08 >>GINA GRIMES: GINA GRIMES.
11:08:10 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MR. DINGFELDER'S
11:08:15 POSITION AS FAR AS GOING BACK AND REEVALUATING ITEMS THAT
11:08:20 HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE MAYOR UNDER HER EMERGENCY
11:08:24 POWERS.
11:08:25 IN FACT, I THINK THE ONLY THING COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT ON
11:08:28 THEIR CONSENT AGENDA ARE THE DEFERRED ITEMS, ITEMS IN WHICH
11:08:32 -- ON WHICH SHE DID NOT TAKE ACTION.
11:08:35 I THINK, FURTHERMORE, IT MIGHT EVEN BE CONFUSING TO GO BACK
11:08:39 AND REEVALUATE THOSE ITEMS SHE'S ALREADY APPROVED,
11:08:42 ESPECIALLY TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY OF OUR AGREEMENTS THAT
11:08:44 HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXECUTED AND ENTERED INTO AND A SECOND
11:08:49 PARTY HAS ACTED UPON THOSE AGREEMENTS.
11:08:51 IT DOESN'T REALLY SERVE ANY PURPOSE TO GO BACK AND
11:08:53 REEVALUATE THAT UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
11:08:55 I AGREE WITH MR. DINGFELDER.
11:08:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, PLEASE.
11:09:02 MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS REFERRING SPECIFICALLY -- IF THERE WAS
11:09:06 ANY CONFUSION -- I WAS SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE
11:09:09 DEFERRED BACKLOGGED ITEMS THAT MS. FOXX-KNOWLES MADE
11:09:12 REFERENCE TO THAT WAS PREPARED BY DEPUTY CLERK MARSHALL.
11:09:17 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:09:17 THANK YOU.
11:09:18 COUNCILMAN CITRO, GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:09:21 ANYTHING?
11:09:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
11:09:24 NOTHING RIGHT NOW.
11:09:24 THANK YOU.
11:09:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:09:26 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING, SIR?
11:09:29 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, NOTHING FOR ME.
11:09:30 THANK YOU.
11:09:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:09:31 OKAY.
11:09:33 GO AHEAD, WE'LL MOVE ON TO B.
11:09:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: B, LEGISLATIVE ORDINANCES.
11:09:37 AGAIN, THOSE CAN BE DISCUSSED TO BE TAKEN VIRTUALLY.
11:09:45 THE PUBLIC SPEAKER DID HAVE A QUESTION ON IT, BUT ONE OF
11:09:50 THOSE OPTIONS THAT COUNCIL CAN TAKE UP IS RELATIVE TO HAVING
11:09:56 VIRTUAL MEETINGS FOR THE DISCUSSION AND PASSAGE OF
11:10:03 LEGISLATIVE ORDINANCES.
11:10:04 AGAIN, WHAT THEY DO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE TWO
11:10:08 READINGS, GENERALLY THE FIRST READING IS NOT A PUBLIC
11:10:11 HEARING, AND THEN IT IS SCHEDULED AND NOTICED TO COME BACK
11:10:15 AS A PUBLIC HEARING AT WHICH TIME YOU TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT
11:10:18 BEFORE READING THEM AGAIN BY TITLE AND ADOPTING THEM.
11:10:20 DOES COUNCIL OR MS. GRIMES WISH TO ADDRESS ANYTHING WITH
11:10:27 REGARD TO LEGISLATIVE ORDINANCES?
11:10:33 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING MS. GRIMES?
11:10:35 >>GINA GRIMES: NO.
11:10:37 I'M SATISFIED WITH THE POSITION STATED BY MR. SHELBY.
11:10:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:10:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION THEN IS IF COUNCIL WISHES TO
11:10:48 HAVE MYSELF AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND STAFF INQUIRE AS TO
11:10:52 GETTING THOSE BACK UP AND RUNNING AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
11:10:59 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD THINK SO.
11:11:00 LET'S GO DOWN THE LINE, STARTING WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:11:05 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON 2B?
11:11:08 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:11:09 THANK YOU.
11:11:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:11 COUNCILMAN CITRO, ANYTHING, SIR?
11:11:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:11:17 NO QUESTIONS.
11:11:18 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
11:11:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, SIR.
11:11:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:24 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
11:11:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
11:11:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:28 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
11:11:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
11:11:32 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
11:11:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
11:11:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:37 OKAY.
11:11:37 WE MOVE FORWARD.
11:11:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:11:39 COUNCIL, THE NEXT THREE ITEMS WE CAN TALK SEPARATELY OR WE
11:11:44 CAN BRING THEM ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE ALL
11:11:47 SIMILARLY SITUATIONS.
11:11:49 THAT'S D STAFF REPORTS, E WORKSHOP ITEMS AND F CEREMONIAL
11:11:54 ITEMS AND PRESENTATIONS.
11:11:55 I THINK WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT UNDER THE PRESENT PUBLIC
11:12:00 HEALTH GUIDELINES AND THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT ARE IN
11:12:05 EFFECT THE REALITY IS THAT WE CANNOT AS OF TODAY SET OF THE
11:12:10 DATE -- SET THE DATE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO HOLD THE
11:12:15 HANDRAILS AND WALK UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL OR
11:12:18 PRESS THE ELEVATOR BUTTON TO GET TO THE THIRD FLOOR TO
11:12:22 CONGREGATE TO GO TO A PUBLIC MEETING.
11:12:24 ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO AGAIN BE SENSITIVE TO THE TIME
11:12:29 DEMANDS THAT SUCH THINGS COULD PLACE ON CITY STAFF WHILE
11:12:32 THEY ARE DEALING WITH CERTAINLY UNUSUAL ITEMS DURING THIS
11:12:37 DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY.
11:12:38 COUNCIL, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO LOOK AT IT TWO WAYS.
11:12:46 THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, WHICH IS THE SAFER AT HOME
11:12:52 PROTOCOL AND WHAT, FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING NEXT
11:12:58 WITH REGARD TO THE NEXT PHASE.
11:13:00 BUT I WILL KNOW THAT THE EPG IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT
11:13:05 ON THURSDAY, I BELIEVE, THE STATE STARTED THEIR PROCESS
11:13:08 YESTERDAY.
11:13:08 SO THIS MAY BE A PREMATURE DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT
11:13:12 RESTARTING STAFF REPORTS, WORKSHOP ITEMS AND CEREMONIAL
11:13:14 ITEMS AND PRESENTATIONS.
11:13:16 BUT, FRANKLY, COUNCIL, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO HOLD OFF ON
11:13:20 THOSE, AND WE CAN PREPARE A METHOD FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE
11:13:25 PERHAPS EVEN RANKED OR REVISITED.
11:13:28 BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO STAFF REPORTS, YOU'VE
11:13:30 RECEIVED MEMORANDA FROM THE CITY STAFF WHICH MAY, IN FACT,
11:13:35 ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS OR HAVE ADDRESSED THOSE ITEMS.
11:13:39 ADDITIONALLY, ALSO THOSE ITEMS MIGHT HAVE BEEN TIME
11:13:42 SENSITIVE AND SITUATIONS HAVE CHANGED.
11:13:44 FINALLY, THE FACT IS THAT, COUNCIL, YOU MAY HAVE THE
11:13:48 OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY TALK OFF-LINE, CONTACT THE STAFF
11:13:53 MEMBER AT YOUR MUTUAL CONVENIENCE TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE
11:13:57 THOSE ISSUES.
11:13:58 THAT BEING SAID, IF COUNCIL HAS ANY COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO
11:14:01 STAFF REPORTS, WORKSHOP ITEMS AND CEREMONIAL ITEMS AND
11:14:04 PRESENTATIONS, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DISCUSS IT EITHER
11:14:09 AS OF NOW OR FOR SOME TIME DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU HAVE A
11:14:12 PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
11:14:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:14:16 BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATION, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR
11:14:19 ANYBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION?
11:14:22 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
11:14:23 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:14:25 I JUST WANT TO AUGMENT MR. SHELBY'S COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY
11:14:29 AROUND STAFF REPORTS AND WORKSHOP ITEMS.
11:14:31 AS COUNCIL HAS SEEN OVER THE EMERGENCY POWERS JOURNEY OF
11:14:36 COVID-19, I HAVE REQUESTED THAT STAFF -- [AUDIO DROP] --
11:14:52 [AUDIO DROP] -- THAT WE CREATE THAT SITUATIONAL AWARENESS
11:15:06 FOR COUNCIL ON THE AGENDA.
11:15:08 AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS NOT ONLY IN THE CONTINUITY OF
11:15:13 GOVERNMENT, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN AGENDA TSUNAMI ON THE
11:15:15 BACK END OF THIS.
11:15:16 WE WANT TO KEEP GOVERNMENT MOVING AS STRONG AND AS EFFICIENT
11:15:20 AS POSSIBLE DURING THE EMERGENCY.
11:15:22 REGARDING WORKSHOP ITEMS, WE KNOW IF THERE'S A SPECIAL-CALL
11:15:26 SITUATION, AS THERE IS DESIGNED FOR APRIL 30th, THAT STAFF
11:15:31 WILL FIND A WAY TO MAKE THOSE HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THE END
11:15:35 OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.
11:15:36 SO THE ADMINISTRATION STANDS READY TO ADAPT TO THOSE AND BE
11:15:41 FULLY TRANSPARENT OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD DO
11:15:44 UNDER AN EMERGENCY POWER RULE ONLY.
11:15:47 THANK YOU.
11:15:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:15:50 NOW WE GO BACKWARDS BEGINNING WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:15:56 ANYTHING ON THESE ITEMS, SIR?
11:16:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:16:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:16:05 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
11:16:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
11:16:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:16:11 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
11:16:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
11:16:14 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:16:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD.
11:16:18 THANK YOU.
11:16:18 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
11:16:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, NO THANK YOU.
11:16:23 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
11:16:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK CEREMONIAL ITEMS ARE OKAY TO DEFER,
11:16:31 BUT WORKSHOPS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HANDLE AND SOME
11:16:37 STAFF REPORTS.
11:16:38 THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE CURRENT
11:16:43 EMERGENCY, LIKE YOU ALL THANKFULLY APPROVED DOING THE
11:16:47 WORKSHOP ON BAYSHORE NEXT WEEK AND SPEEDING THROUGHOUT THE
11:16:50 CITY.
11:16:51 IF THERE'S ANYTHING RELEVANT DURING THIS TIME, I THINK WE
11:16:54 SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO IT ASSUMING THAT -- OR IF STAFF IS
11:16:57 AVAILABLE TO DO IT.
11:16:58 THANK YOU.
11:16:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:01 OKAY.
11:17:01 NEXT ITEM.
11:17:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I JUST FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMAN
11:17:05 CARLSON'S DISCUSSION ON WORKSHOP ITEMS?
11:17:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:17:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, IF
11:17:12 YOU WANT TO CALL IT A DRESS REHEARSAL OR A DRY RUN ON APRIL
11:17:16 30th WHEN THE ISSUE OF THE TRAFFIC ON BAYSHORE AND
11:17:19 CITYWIDE IS DISCUSSED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:17:21 THAT WILL BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE WHAT THAT WOULD
11:17:27 BE LIKE VIRTUALLY.
11:17:28 SO YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD SENSE AFTER THE 30th AS TO HOW YOU
11:17:32 WISH TO APPROACH WORKSHOPS.
11:17:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:36 I AGREE WITH THAT, WHICH IS THAT ITEM ON THE 30th IS GOING
11:17:41 TO ALLOW US TO SEE HOW THINGS MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE,
11:17:46 AND WHATNOT.
11:17:47 NEXT ITEM.
11:17:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, ON THE AGENDA, THE CLERK HAS PUT
11:17:55 NUMBER 3 TO BE THE DISCUSSING OF THE AMENDING OF THE CITY
11:18:01 COUNCIL'S CALENDAR.
11:18:02 I WOULD ASK COUNCIL IF YOU WOULD WISH TO, BECAUSE IT MAY
11:18:05 AFFECT WHAT NUMBER THREE IS, TO TAKE UP THE ITEM OF NUMBER
11:18:08 4, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO DISCUSS THE METHODOLOGY FOR SETTING AND
11:18:12 CONDUCTING THE ELECTION OF CHAIR AND CHAIR PRO TEM OF THE
11:18:14 COUNCIL AND THE ELECTION BY CITY COUNCIL OF THE CHAIRMAN AND
11:18:17 VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE CRA.
11:18:19 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:18:20 SO WE'LL GO TO THAT FIRST.
11:18:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST THING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:18:25 FORGIVE ME.
11:18:26 I THINK WE BYPASSED WHAT I THINK IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE
11:18:30 VEXING ISSUES.
11:18:32 CITY ATTORNEY GRIMES, THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TALK
11:18:35 ABOUT THE QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS AND RESCHEDULING THAT,
11:18:39 BECAUSE, COUNCIL, WHAT THAT ALSO WOULD INVOLVE IS AMENDING
11:18:42 COUNCIL'S CALENDAR, IF COUNCIL IS SO INCLINED TO REMOVE
11:18:47 THEIR TWO-WEEK ANNUAL SUMMER RECESS AND ALLOW FOR THOSE
11:18:53 WEEKS TO BE USED FOR SETTING HEARINGS AND CATCHING UP.
11:18:57 THAT BEING SAID -- AND ALSO BEFORE I ASK MS. GRIMES, I WANT
11:19:03 YOU TO KNOW THAT MS. GRIMES AND I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
11:19:07 TO SPEAK.
11:19:08 WITH REGARD TO HER LEGAL POSITION, I AM ABSOLUTELY IN ACCORD
11:19:12 WITH THEM.
11:19:14 THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, COUNCIL, WE TALK ABOUT AUDIO ONLY
11:19:19 MEETINGS AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE,
11:19:23 COUNCIL RAISED THE ISSUE FOR VIDEO.
11:19:25 ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH REGARD TO QUASI-JUDICIAL IS WITH
11:19:28 AN IN-PERSON HEARING, THAT'S THE WAY YOU'VE HAD IT IN THE
11:19:31 PAST.
11:19:31 BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO A HYBRID, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO
11:19:35 NEED VIDEO CAPABILITY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE HYBRID.
11:19:39 THE HYBRID BEING IN-PERSON AT WHATEVER LOCATION YOU CHOOSE
11:19:42 AND ALSO HAVING A PETITIONER HAVING THE RIGHT TO COME TO
11:19:47 COUNCIL AND THE RIGHT TO BE IN PERSON AND MAKE THE
11:19:49 PRESENTATION WITH EVIDENCE BEFORE COUNCIL AND THE RIGHT FOR
11:19:53 INTERESTED PERSONS WHO MAY HAVE A PROPERTY INTEREST TO DO
11:19:56 THE SAME BUT THEN ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT COME TO A
11:20:01 PHYSICAL LOCATION TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE THE EVIDENCE AND
11:20:03 HAVE THAT BE SEEN AND HEARD AND GIVEN THE EQUAL WEIGHT.
11:20:07 THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ASK MS. GRIMES AND THEN WE CAN GET
11:20:10 INTO THE SUBJECT OF SCHEDULING.
11:20:13 OF COURSE, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS TODAY.
11:20:17 I WONDER IF THERE'S ANYTHING MS. GRIMES WISHES TO ADD.
11:20:22 >>GINA GRIMES: GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
11:20:24 I APPRECIATE IT.
11:20:25 I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED QUESTIONS AND INQUIRIES AS
11:20:30 TO WHY YOU CANNOT -- WHY YOU'RE NOT RESUMING YOUR
11:20:34 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS IN THE SAME MANNER YOU ARE IN THESE
11:20:38 OTHER MATTERS.
11:20:41 I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS ARE
11:20:43 DIFFERENT THAN OTHER HEARINGS OR MEETINGS INVOLVING
11:20:47 LEGISLATIVE OR ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS.
11:20:49 THERE ARE TWO REASONS.
11:20:50 FIRST IS THE LEGAL SCRUTINY THAT'S GIVEN TO QUASI-JUDICIAL
11:20:55 DECISIONS.
11:20:55 AND THE SECOND IS THE PROCEDURAL COMPLEXITIES ASSOCIATED
11:20:59 WITH QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:21:02 AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THE COURTS ARE GOING TO
11:21:05 EXAMINE WHETHER PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS WAS AFFORDED TO ALL
11:21:09 PARTICIPANTS AT A HEARING.
11:21:10 AND PARTICIPANTS INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE PETITIONER, BUT ALSO
11:21:13 OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES -- NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS OR
11:21:19 RESIDENTS -- THAT ARE ALSO ENTITLED TO PARTICIPATE.
11:21:21 AND THE REASON THAT THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS CONCERN ME
11:21:27 AS FAR AS BEING CONDUCTED ON A VIRTUAL BASIS IS BECAUSE OF
11:21:30 THE FINANCIAL RISK ASSOCIATED WITH QUASI-JUDICIAL APPEALS
11:21:38 AND ERRORS BEING FOUND IF ONE OCCURS.
11:21:42 SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS CAN
11:21:45 BE AFFORDED THROUGH VIRTUAL MEETINGS ON QUASI-JUDICIAL
11:21:50 MATTERS.
11:21:52 AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROCEDURAL MEASURES AND
11:21:56 QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESSES.
11:21:58 FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE OATH.
11:22:01 AS MR. SHELBY HAS MENTIONED, IN ORDER FOR THE OATH TO BE
11:22:08 ADMINISTERED, THE CLERK HAS TO BE ABLE TO VISUALLY VERIFY
11:22:14 THAT A PERSON, IN FACT, TOOK THE OATH.
11:22:16 SO WE HAVE TO THEN DEPEND UPON WHETHER ALL INTERESTED
11:22:21 PARTIES, MEANING PETITIONERS, AS WELL AS OTHER INTERESTED
11:22:24 PARTIES THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, HAVE THE NECESSARY
11:22:28 HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE TO PARTICIPATE ON A VIDEO BASIS.
11:22:32 ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE AUTHENTICATION OF WITNESSES AND
11:22:41 EXPERTS.
11:22:41 AGAIN, LAY WITNESSES NEED THE NECESSARY HARDWARE AND
11:22:45 SOFTWARE TO PARTICIPATE.
11:22:47 EVERYONE MAY NOT HAVE A COMPUTER.
11:22:49 IF THEY HAVE A COMPUTER, THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DO THEY HAVE
11:22:55 THE NECESSARY HARDWARE TO PARTICIPATE ON A VISUAL BASIS?
11:22:57 ALSO, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO QUALIFY EXPERTS AT HEARINGS.
11:23:03 THAT AGAIN WOULD ALSO REQUIRE VIDEO TECHNOLOGY ON THE PART
11:23:07 OF THE PARTICIPANT.
11:23:08 ANOTHER PROCEDURAL COMPLEXITY IS CROSS-EXAMINATION OF
11:23:17 WITNESSES.
11:23:17 AS YOU KNOW, PARTIES ARE ENTITLED TO CROSS-EXAMINE ANY
11:23:21 WITNESS THAT PARTICIPATES IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.
11:23:23 I DON'T KNOW IF EVEN THE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE HAS THE
11:23:29 CAPABILITIES OF ALLOWING THAT KIND OF INTERACTION BETWEEN
11:23:34 TWO PARTICIPANTS IN A HEARING, FOR THERE TO BE THAT EXCHANGE
11:23:39 TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH EACH PARTICIPANT BEING SHOWN ON A
11:23:44 VIDEO SCREEN.
11:23:45 I KNOW THAT WE CAN INTERACT WITH PARTICIPANTS.
11:23:49 "WE" MEANING THE HOST OF THE MEETING.
11:23:51 I DON'T KNOW IF PARTICIPANTS CAN INTERACT WITH ONE ANOTHER.
11:23:55 SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROCEDURAL COMPLEXITY.
11:23:58 AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WHICH REALLY GIVES ME A LOT OF
11:24:02 CONCERN, IS THE INTRODUCTION OF EVIDENCE THAT'S TYPICAL AT
11:24:06 YOUR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:24:08 WE OFTENTIMES HAVE PEOPLE, THE PETITIONER SUBMITTING BOOKS,
11:24:14 IF YOU WILL, OF DOCUMENTS, AND A LOT OF TIMES HAVE OTHER
11:24:20 PARTICIPANTS THAT SUBMIT DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS PHOTOS.
11:24:25 SO THE QUESTION IS IF THOSE PARTICIPANTS WOULD BE ABLE TO
11:24:31 PRESENT THAT KIND OF DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE IN A VIRTUAL
11:24:35 FASHION.
11:24:36 SO ALL OF THOSE PROCEDURAL COMPLEXITIES ARE THE REASON THAT
11:24:41 I CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN MY POSITION THAT WE SHOULD NOT RESUME
11:24:46 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS UNTIL SUCH TIME AS YOU'RE ABLE TO
11:24:49 MEET WITH A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
11:24:52 THIS POSITION IS SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE
11:24:55 GONE.
11:24:55 FOR INSTANCE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RECENTLY JUST SENT A MEMO
11:24:59 WITH VERY SIMILAR POINTS TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY
11:25:02 COMMISSIONERS AND TO THEIR STAFF AS TO WHY THEY DON'T
11:25:06 BELIEVE AT THIS TIME QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS CAN BE CONDUCTED
11:25:10 VIRTUALLY.
11:25:10 ALSO, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS MADE A SIMILAR
11:25:13 RECOMMENDATION.
11:25:14 BUT WITH ALL THAT, I WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE PRACTICAL ASPECT I
11:25:17 THINK MIGHT PUT THIS TO REST, AND THAT IS THE SCHEDULE FOR
11:25:23 RESUMING QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:25:25 I SENT A MEMO DATED APRIL 8th, SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO
11:25:31 YOU ALL AND DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS
11:25:35 AND WHEN THEY CAN BE RESUMED.
11:25:37 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC
11:25:40 AS FAR AS PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE FOR REZONINGS OR
11:25:44 SPECIAL USES AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
11:25:47 I WROTE A MEMO TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
11:25:50 WHAT IT DID WAS IT SET OUT A PROPOSAL WITH A SCHEDULE IN IT.
11:25:56 IF WE FOLLOW THAT PROPOSED SCHEDULE, THE EARLIEST HEARING
11:26:00 DATE WOULD BE IN JUNE.
11:26:02 SO KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS, THE
11:26:07 SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER NOTICE THAT'S POSTED AND MAILED
11:26:11 IS 30 DAYS.
11:26:13 IF WE ASSUME RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN RESUME QUASI-JUDICIAL
11:26:18 HEARINGS IN JUNE, THEN THAT WILL ALLOW THE MONTH OF MAY FOR
11:26:23 THE PETITIONERS TO PREPARE AND ISSUE THOSE NOTICES.
11:26:28 SO, AGAIN, IF YOU DECIDE TODAY THAT YOU WANT TO RESUME YOUR
11:26:31 SCHEDULE FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS STARTING IN JUNE, WE
11:26:35 CAN TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE AND HOW IT'S ALL LAID
11:26:39 OUT.
11:26:40 IF YOU DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED AND RESCHEDULE
11:26:44 HEARINGS FOR IN JUNE, THEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IT WILL GIVE
11:26:48 THE STAFF TIME DURING THE MONTH OF MAY TO ADVISE THE
11:26:51 PETITIONERS OF THEIR HEARING DATES AND THE NOTICE DEADLINE.
11:26:55 IT WILL ALLOW THE PETITIONERS TO GIVE THE 30 DAYS' NOTICE.
11:26:58 AND IT WILL ALSO ALLOW THE STAFF AND PETITIONER THE MONTH OF
11:27:02 MAY TO ADDRESS HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS WITH THE APPLICATION AND
11:27:06 THE SITE PLAN.
11:27:07 WITH THAT, I WILL THEN ASK COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT
11:27:11 YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE SCHEDULE RESUMING
11:27:17 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS IN JUNE AND IF SO, WHETHER OR NOT
11:27:20 YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE PROPOSED HEARING DATES THAT I GAVE
11:27:24 YOU.
11:27:25 THE SCHEDULE THAT I GAVE YOU WAS FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE, BUT ON
11:27:28 THE FLIP SIDE, IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO CATCH UP BY THE END OF
11:27:32 JUNE WITH ALL OF THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WERE
11:27:34 CANCELED IN MARCH, APRIL, AND IN MAY.
11:27:41 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:27:42 THANK YOU FOR THAT, MS. GRIMES.
11:27:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:27:46 A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS.
11:27:48 NUMBER ONE IS BASED ON THE REPORT THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE
11:27:51 ADMINISTRATION.
11:27:51 IT APPEARS EVIDENT THAT THE TECHNOLOGY UNDER WHICH YOU'RE
11:27:55 OPERATING AND WHICH EXISTS PRESENTLY IS NOT PREPARED TO
11:27:58 ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:28:01 SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT TECHNOLOGY WOULD THAT TAKE AND WHAT
11:28:06 WOULD THE TIMELINE BE FOR THAT TO BE IN PLACE?
11:28:09 IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT?
11:28:11 BECAUSE THAT WOULD GOVERN, CERTAINLY, YOUR SCHEDULE.
11:28:15 SO IN THAT REGARD, THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER IS WHETHER
11:28:24 COUNCIL WISHES TO CANCEL ITS SUMMER RECESS WHICH ARE, I
11:28:33 BELIEVE IF I PULL UP MY CALENDAR HERE, SUMMER RECESS BEGINS
11:28:45 ON JUNE -- IT IS THE WEEK OF JUNE 29th.
11:28:48 SO YOU'D HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 2nd IF YOU WANTED
11:28:51 A THURSDAY, AND IF YOU WANTED TO DO TWO NIGHT MEETINGS THAT
11:28:56 WEEK, I BELIEVE, TALKING WITH MS. WELLS AND WORKING WITH
11:29:00 HER, COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE ALSO AVAILABLE ON TUESDAY NIGHTS.
11:29:03 YOU COULD HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY, THE 30th, THE
11:29:08 2nd OF JULY, WHICH IS A THURSDAY.
11:29:12 THE FOLLOWING WEEK IS THE 7th OF JULY, WHICH IS A TUESDAY
11:29:17 NIGHT AND THE REGULARLY CANCELED MEETING, SUMMER RECESS
11:29:21 WOULD BE ON JUNE 9th.
11:29:23 WE CAN DO THAT, IF YOU WISH.
11:29:26 THE OTHER THING, IN TALKING WITH MS. WELLS IS THE CONCEPT,
11:29:31 AND WE HAVE TO WORK THIS OUT WITH THE CLERK, SPECIFICALLY
11:29:35 FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING, PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE STAGGERED TIMES
11:29:38 FOR THE HEARINGS SO WE DON'T HAVE A ROOMFUL OF PEOPLE,
11:29:41 EVERYBODY SHOWING UP AT 6:00, AND THEN HAVING TO WAIT FOR
11:29:44 THE HEARINGS TO BE HEARD.
11:29:46 THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE AT THIS POINT, AND THAT WOULD TAKE
11:29:49 SOME DOING, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A VERY GOOD
11:29:53 SUGGESTION AND WORTHY OF FINDING OUT IF WE CAN DO IT.
11:29:58 WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY LAST POINT.
11:30:00 BRINGS ME TO MY LAST POINT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SCHEDULING
11:30:03 THESE, REMEMBER THAT COUNCIL STARTS THEIR HEARINGS AT 6:00.
11:30:07 BUT WHAT YOU ALSO HAVE IS YOU ALSO HAVE LEGISLATIVE MATTERS,
11:30:12 THE PLAN AMENDMENT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS VERY MUCH
11:30:15 INTERESTED IN GETTING THEIR PLANS HEARD AND GETTING UP TO
11:30:18 SPEED ON THOSE.
11:30:20 I'VE BEEN IN CONFERENCE WITH MS. WELLS AND WITH THE PLANNING
11:30:24 COMMISSION STAFF, JENNIFER MALONE AND DAVID HEY.
11:30:28 THEY HAVE INFORMED ME THAT IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW THERE
11:30:31 ARE 30 PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE HEARD.
11:30:34 AS YOU KNOW, THEY GET SCHEDULED AT 5:01 IN THE EVENING
11:30:37 GENERALLY.
11:30:38 OF THOSE, THE GOOD NEWS IS OF THOSE, 21 ARE THE PARK
11:30:42 AMENDMENTS.
11:30:42 YOU REMEMBER HOW THEY CAME TO COUNCIL AS A BATCH, AND THEY
11:30:46 DIDN'T TAKE LONG, BUT THEY WERE VERY SIGNIFICANT IN THE FACT
11:30:49 THAT WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY WERE SMALL MAP AMENDMENTS THAT
11:30:54 ACTUALLY PROTECTED FROM A FUTURE LAND USE PLANNING
11:31:01 PERSPECTIVE.
11:31:01 CITY COUNCIL TOOK THE OPTION, THE INITIATIVE TO MAKE SURE
11:31:05 THOSE PARKS WERE PROTECTED BY HAVING CONSISTENT FUTURE LAND
11:31:08 USE DESIGNATIONS.
11:31:10 WITH OUR RESCHEDULING COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WHATEVER
11:31:14 TIME WE DO IT AND WHATEVER DAY WE DO IT, WE SCHEDULE THEM
11:31:17 FOR 5:01 TO ALLOW THE PLAN AMENDMENTS TO ALSO BE HEARD AND
11:31:21 CAUGHT UP AT THE SAME TIME.
11:31:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JOHN DINGFELDER WITH A
11:31:28 QUESTION.
11:31:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHAIRMAN VIERA GOT CUT OFF.
11:31:32 THIS IS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TAKING OVER UNTIL HE GETS
11:31:34 BACK.
11:31:35 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:31:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GUIDO.
11:31:39 MR. SHELBY, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, AND WITH ALL DUE
11:31:44 RESPECT, THERE SEEMS TO BE A PRESUMPTION IN YOUR COMMENTS
11:31:47 THAT WE'RE MEETING IN NORMAL COUNCIL CHAMBERS EVEN IN JUNE
11:31:51 OR JULY.
11:31:52 I THINK THAT PRESUMPTION IS QUESTIONABLE.
11:31:57 I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THIS NATION ARE STILL GOING
11:32:02 TO BE ON EXTREMELY HIGH ALERT.
11:32:04 I THINK OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE COMPLETELY INADEQUATE TO
11:32:08 ACCOMPLISH ANY SORT OF SOCIAL DISTANCING, WHETHER OR NOT
11:32:10 IT'S BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. GUDES AND I ARE TYPICALLY
11:32:15 ELBOW TO ELBOW AS ARE THE REST OF YOU.
11:32:18 THE CLERK IS VERY CLOSE.
11:32:20 THE PEOPLE COME IN 30 AT A TIME.
11:32:26 I THINK THAT ASSUMPTION NEEDS TO BE SORT OF ADDRESSED.
11:32:32 I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MAJOR CONTINGENCY THAT ALL OF OUR
11:32:35 MEETINGS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE ARE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE
11:32:39 ELSE.
11:32:40 WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S MacFARLANE PARK IN THE GYMNASIUM OR
11:32:45 THE CONVENTION CENTER, IF IT'S AVAILABLE, WE NEED A LARGE
11:32:48 SPACE TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE DAY
11:32:51 MEETINGS OR NIGHT MEETINGS, AND THAT'S MY STRONG, STRONG
11:32:57 OPINION BASED UPON THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY, OUR OWN
11:33:03 HEALTH, STAFF'S HEALTH, THE COMMUNITY'S HEALTH, ANYBODY WHO
11:33:07 WANTS TO COME DOWN THERE.
11:33:08 I JUST FEEL VERY, VERY STRONG ABOUT IT.
11:33:12 NOW, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IN REGARD TO JULY.
11:33:15 OBVIOUSLY, EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, INCLUDING MYSELF, IS GOING
11:33:18 TO SAY, FINE, WE CAN FOREGO OUR VACATION.
11:33:21 WE'VE HAD A BIT OF UNINTENTIONAL TIME OFF RIGHT NOW, WHICH
11:33:26 NONE OF US WANTED.
11:33:28 SO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL SAY, YES, IT'S FINE TO PUT OFF
11:33:32 THE JULY THING.
11:33:32 OUR, QUOTE, JULY VACATION.
11:33:36 MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON OUR
11:33:40 STAFF?
11:33:41 DOES STAFF, INCLUDING THE CLERK'S STAFF AND THE ZONING STAFF
11:33:44 AND OTHER STAFF, DO THEY COUNT ON THAT JULY VACATION?
11:33:49 DO THEY PLAN THEIR SUMMER VACATIONS AROUND THAT JULY
11:33:53 VACATION?
11:33:54 BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO.
11:33:57 THOSE ARE MY TWO COMMENTS IN REGARD TO THAT.
11:33:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
11:34:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:34:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, CHAIRMAN VIERA, YOU'RE BACK.
11:34:05 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M BACK.
11:34:06 I GOT DISCONNECTED.
11:34:08 I'M HAVING BAD LUCK TODAY.
11:34:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN I BE RECOGNIZED?
11:34:14 >>LUIS VIERA: WAIT, COUNCILMAN -- MARTY FIRST AND THEN
11:34:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:34:19 MARTY, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT?
11:34:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCIL
11:34:23 MEMBER DINGFELDER'S COMMENTS WHICH, FRANKLY, I AGREE WITH,
11:34:29 AND I DID NOT MEAN ANY PRESUMPTION.
11:34:33 ALTHOUGH ONE COULD MAKE THAT PRESUMPTION THAT IDEALLY YOU'D
11:34:36 WANT TO BE BACK IN CHAMBERS.
11:34:37 AS I SAID EARLIER, I CAN'T IMAGINE RIGHT NOW A DATE WHEN
11:34:41 SUCH A THING WOULD BE POSSIBLE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH PROTOCOLS
11:34:44 OR WHAT WE'RE HEARING MIGHT BE FORTHCOMING.
11:34:47 I AGREE WITH YOU ABSOLUTELY.
11:34:50 THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE SPACE TO HANDLE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND
11:34:54 IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE VIDEO.
11:34:55 SO IN THAT REGARD, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY -- I
11:35:01 UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
11:35:03 COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
11:35:05 TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS BEFORE YOU CAN
11:35:09 WITH ANY CONFIDENCE BE ABLE TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR
11:35:12 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.
11:35:14 NOW, MIND YOU, YOU COULD HAVE A TOTAL IN-PERSON SETUP, BUT
11:35:19 YOU COULD ALSO HAVE A HYBRID WITH COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA
11:35:23 TECHNOLOGY FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO COME DOWN, EVEN
11:35:26 DURING THIS TRANSITION AND THOSE WHO FEEL THAT THEY MUST
11:35:30 COME DOWN OR WANT TO COME DOWN.
11:35:32 I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND IT IS WELL TAKEN.
11:35:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:35:35 AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. SHELBY.
11:35:39 I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S SENTIMENTS.
11:35:41 I ALWAYS AGREE LIKE EVERYBODY HERE THAT PUBLIC HEALTH AND
11:35:44 SAFETY SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE.
11:35:46 WHEN I HEARD ABOUT COUNCIL CHAMBERS BEING DISCUSSED IN THAT
11:35:51 TIME FRAME, I'M THINKING THAT'S VERY LIKELY NOT GOING TO
11:35:54 HAPPEN AND SHOULDN'T HAPPEN, MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT.
11:35:57 I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT.
11:35:59 EVERYBODY ON THIS CALL 110%.
11:36:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES, GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:36:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I GET KIND OF CONFUSED
11:36:08 SOMETIMES WITH THE PLAN.
11:36:09 WE'VE GOT 50 DIFFERENT SCENARIOS ABOUT A PLAN.
11:36:13 THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS.
11:36:14 WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS.
11:36:18 THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
11:36:19 THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE HAVE PLACES THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR
11:36:22 MEETINGS WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING, TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
11:36:27 I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CERTAIN CONCERNS PEOPLE HAVE.
11:36:31 HEALTH AND SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE.
11:36:32 LIKE MR. DINGFELDER SAID, ME AND HIM ARE ELBOW TO ELBOW AT
11:36:36 TIMES IN THE CHAMBERS.
11:36:37 HE IS RIGHT WITH THAT POINT THAT WE COULD BE ANYWHERE THAT'S
11:36:40 LARGE ENOUGH TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.
11:36:43 I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND IT'S BACK TO GETTING TO
11:36:48 BUSINESS.
11:36:48 THIS THING MAY LINGER FOR A WHILE.
11:36:51 WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN WHILE THIS THING IS LINGERING.
11:36:54 BECAUSE TIME DOESN'T STOP.
11:36:57 IT CONTINUES TO MOVE.
11:36:59 I KNOW PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT WE
11:37:02 HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BASIC POINT OF WHAT OUR JOB IS AS AN
11:37:07 ELECTED BODY.
11:37:08 WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND KEEP THINGS MOVING BECAUSE TIME
11:37:10 DOESN'T MOVE.
11:37:12 MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE NEED TO FIND A LOCATION, BE IT
11:37:15 CONVENTION CENTER, PLACES BIG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN HAVE
11:37:21 SOCIAL DISTANCING, YOU CAN HAVE THE TEN PEOPLE OR WHATEVER
11:37:24 WE NEED TO DO TO ACCOMMODATE TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS.
11:37:27 THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
11:37:29 COME UP WITH A PLAN AND GET MOVING.
11:37:31 TALKING IS TALKING IS TALKING.
11:37:33 WE'RE NOT MOVING ANYWHERE.
11:37:34 WE NEED TO MAKE UP A PLAN.
11:37:36 I YIELD BACK.
11:37:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:37:39 NOW, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, BECAUSE I WAS OFF FOR TWO
11:37:42 MINUTES, WERE WE GOING DOWN THE LINE?
11:37:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
11:37:46 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD SPOKEN AND THEN MR. SHELBY AND
11:37:51 COUNCILMAN GUDES, BUT NOTHING FORMAL.
11:37:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:54 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:37:59 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE ONE.
11:38:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:38:02 >>BILL CARLSON: I'VE BEEN SITTING ON A BUNCH OF CALLS WITH
11:38:07 ECONOMISTS AND THEY ARE TALKING AS MUCH AS 20% UNEMPLOYMENT,
11:38:10 WHICH BLOWS ALL THE NUMBERS OUT THAT WE STARTED WITH, THAT
11:38:14 WE HAD A MONTH AGO.
11:38:16 OUR ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE IN REALLY BAD TROUBLE.
11:38:19 ALREADY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HURTING AND OUT OF WORK BUT THE
11:38:22 NUMBERS HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP WITH THE REALITY YET.
11:38:25 AS WE GET TWO OR THREE MONTHS INTO THIS, THERE'S GOING TO BE
11:38:28 A LACK OF CASH AND LOTS MORE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO GO
11:38:31 UNDER.
11:38:31 REAL ESTATE, FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, IS STILL A MAJOR
11:38:34 PART OF OUR ECONOMY, IF WE WANT TO KEEP OUR ECONOMY MOVING
11:38:40 FORWARD, WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO APPROVE THESE PROJECTS.
11:38:43 WE NEED TO WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY TO DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY AND
11:38:47 PREVENT THE MISTAKES OF THE LAST FEW YEARS WHERE WE DID NOT
11:38:50 DO THAT, WHERE WE FAILED AFTER THE LAST RECESSION TO
11:38:54 DIVERSIFY VERY MUCH.
11:38:55 BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET REAL ESTATE MOVING AND DO WHATEVER WE
11:38:58 CAN TO HELP GET THE ECONOMY MOVING.
11:39:00 WE'RE NOT SETTING, FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, THERE ARE A LOT OF
11:39:04 COMMENTS ONLINE ABOUT SETTING THE SAFER AT HOME POLICY.
11:39:09 CITY COUNCIL IS NOT DOING THAT.
11:39:11 THE EPG IS DOING THAT AND THE GOVERNOR AND PRESIDENT.
11:39:13 BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS DO OUR SMALL PART TO KEEP THE ECONOMY
11:39:19 ROLLING FORWARD WHILE FOLLOWING ALL THE SAFE GUIDELINES THAT
11:39:22 MS. POST AND OTHERS ARE PUTTING IN PLACE.
11:39:25 I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR HAVING THOSE MEETINGS AS SOON AS WE
11:39:28 FEEL LIKE IT'S SAFE AND AS SOON AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS
11:39:33 THAT IT'S OKAY DO IT IN FOLLOWING THE PROPER PROCEDURES.
11:39:36 THANK YOU.
11:39:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:39:38 YEAH, AND I AGREE, AND THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO POINT TO
11:39:42 WHAT CAN BE DONE, NOT TO BEAT THAT DRUM AGAIN, BUT THE TAMPA
11:39:47 CONVENTION CENTER.
11:39:48 THAT IS A LARGE SPACE UNDER OUR RELATIVE CONTROL THAT WE CAN
11:39:51 CONTROL.
11:39:52 WE COULD MANAGE IT.
11:39:55 WE CAN MAKE IT AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC, AND THEN
11:39:59 WE CAN HAVE PROCEDURES IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN STAGGER
11:40:03 MEETINGS AT SPECIFIC TIMES THERE AS SOON AS THAT CAN BE
11:40:07 DONE.
11:40:08 SO I AGREE WITH THAT.
11:40:10 OKAY.
11:40:10 ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT FROM COUNCIL?
11:40:13 OKAY, BEING NONE, WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
11:40:17 YES, SIR IS THAT COUNCILMAN CITRO?
11:40:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, DINGFELDER.
11:40:22 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
11:40:23 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:40:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE NEXT ITEM?
11:40:28 I SORT OF LOST TRACK, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE -- POTENTIALLY
11:40:31 MAKE A MOTION, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES INDICATED, TALK IS CHEAP.
11:40:37 EVEN MR. BENNETT IS KIND OF PLEADING WITH US FOR SOME
11:40:42 AFFIRMATIVE DIRECTION.
11:40:44 I'D LIKE TO DO THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION, IF IT'S THE
11:40:47 APPROPRIATE TIME.
11:40:49 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S HAVE THAT AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION,
11:40:52 IF WE MAY.
11:40:53 YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE UP.
11:40:55 YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, SIR.
11:40:57 ONCE ALL THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN HAD, ET CETERA, THEN YOU
11:41:00 CAN MAKE THAT MOTION, ONCE THE SUBJECT MATTER IS DONE, I
11:41:04 SHOULD SAY.
11:41:06 >>GINA GRIMES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS GINA GRIMES.
11:41:08 CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING ABOUT QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS?
11:41:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM, OF COURSE.
11:41:14 >>GINA GRIMES: BACK ON APRIL 8th, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE
11:41:18 LOOKING FOR A PLAN.
11:41:18 BACK ON APRIL 8th, I SENT A MEMO AND SET OUT A COURSE THAT
11:41:24 YOU COULD FOLLOW WITH A LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY THAT YOU NEED
11:41:29 AT THIS TIME AS FAR AS WHEN YOU CAN RESUME THESE
11:41:32 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:41:33 THE SOONEST THAT YOU CAN DO IT IS IN JUNE.
11:41:38 IF YOU WANT A PLAN AND YOU WANT TO FOLLOW THE SCHEDULE AND
11:41:41 YOU WANT TO HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING IN JUNE, THEN WE CAN
11:41:46 ACCOMMODATE THAT.
11:41:47 WE CAN RESUME THE QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETINGS WITH A PHYSICAL
11:41:50 QUORUM PRESENT.
11:41:51 IF NECESSARY, WE CAN HOST THEM AT THE CONVENTION CENTER SO
11:41:54 THAT WE CAN MEET THE DIFFERENT SOCIAL DISTANCING
11:41:57 REQUIREMENTS, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY AND
11:42:01 YOU WANT TO HAVE A PLAN, YOU WERE GIVEN THAT BACK ON APRIL
11:42:04 8, INCLUDING THE SPECIFIC HEARING DATE AND THE VARIOUS
11:42:11 PETITIONS THAT WOULD -- AT EACH OF THE HEARING DATES.
11:42:15 IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION -- IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THAT
11:42:18 LATER, THAT'S FINE.
11:42:19 BUT YOU DO HAVE A PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:42:21 >>LUIS VIERA: ONE QUESTION I HAVE, MS. GRIMES, SOME OF THOSE
11:42:25 DAYS, HOW MANY QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS WOULD YOU BE HAVING
11:42:28 WITHIN A DAY PERIOD?
11:42:29 I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THAT AND HAVING SOME CONCERNS.
11:42:32 LOOKING AT A VERY, VERY HIGH NUMBER OF HEARINGS IN A DAY.
11:42:37 >>GINA GRIMES: I KNOW HOW ANXIOUS YOU ARE TO GET BACK TO
11:42:39 WORK TO BE THAT CATCH UP AND TO GIVE THE PUBLIC THE
11:42:42 CERTAINTY THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AS TO WHEN THEIR
11:42:46 PETITIONS WILL BE HEARD.
11:42:48 ON JUNE 11th, YOU WOULD BE CATCHING UP WITH RESPECT TO
11:42:52 THREE DIFFERENT HEARINGS THAT WERE CANCELED, AND YOU WOULD
11:42:55 HAVE 14 ITEMS THAT NIGHT.
11:42:57 11 REZONINGS -- 11 REZONINGS AND SPECIAL USES AND 3
11:43:04 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE APPLICATIONS.
11:43:08 >>LUIS VIERA: 14, IF I MAY, 14 ITEMS IN ONE EVENING.
11:43:11 >>GINA GRIMES: IN ONE EVENING.
11:43:14 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT MORNING, ANYTHING?
11:43:16 >>GINA GRIMES: KEEP IN MIND, THE REASON THAT WE'RE PROPOSING
11:43:19 THIS AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE IS TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AND THE REAL
11:43:24 ESTATE INDUSTRY THAT MR. CARLSON MENTIONED, TO GIVE THEM
11:43:28 THAT CERTAINTY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK UP AND RUNNING,
11:43:32 AND YOU'RE GOING TO CATCH UP.
11:43:33 THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO CATCH UP IN ONE MONTH WITH ALL THE
11:43:36 HEARINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CANCELED.
11:43:38 IF YOU WANT TO STRETCH IT OUT INTO JULY, AS SUGGESTED BY MR.
11:43:42 SHELBY, THEN YOU HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO DO THAT.
11:43:48 IT'S JUST THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO JUMP-START THINGS AS
11:43:51 QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
11:43:52 WITH THIS SCHEDULE, CATCH UP IN JUNE AND THEN IN JULY YOU
11:43:55 WOULD RESUME YOUR REGULAR SCHEDULE.
11:43:58 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, THOUGH, THAT MORNING, DO WE HAVE ANY
11:44:02 HEARINGS THAT -- WE WOULD HAVE UNDER YOUR PLAN ANY HEARINGS
11:44:06 IN THE MORNING?
11:44:07 14 IN THE EVENING.
11:44:08 WOULD WE HAVE ANY THAT MORNING?
11:44:09 >>GINA GRIMES: YES.
11:44:10 YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR REGULAR HEARINGS -- YOUR REGULAR MEETING
11:44:13 THAT MORNING.
11:44:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
11:44:20 MOTION WOULD HAVE.
11:44:21 I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS WITH MR.
11:44:25 SHELBY.
11:44:26 WE ARE ALL, LIKE YOU SAID CORRECTLY, VERY ANXIOUS TO GET
11:44:29 BACK TO WORK, BUT I THINK WE ALSO WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT
11:44:33 WAY.
11:44:34 WHEN I SAY GET BACK TO WORK, WE'RE ALL WORKING VERY, VERY,
11:44:37 VERY HARD.
11:44:38 GET BACK TO THE HEARINGS SO WE CAN MOVE OUR ECONOMY FORWARD.
11:44:41 JUST MY THOUGHTS FOR WHATEVER THAT COUNTS.
11:44:43 ANYTHING ELSE, MS. GRIMES?
11:44:46 >>GINA GRIMES: NO.
11:44:46 THERE ARE TWO OTHER HEARING DATES IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.
11:44:51 WHAT I'M MENTIONING ARE EVENING HEARING DATES.
11:44:54 JUNE 18th AND JUNE 25th.
11:44:56 RIGHT NOW, JUNE 25th IS NOT FULL, BUT THE APPLICATION
11:45:01 SUBMISSION DEADLINE HAS NOT YET PASSED.
11:45:03 IT'S POSSIBLE WE COULD MOVE SOME OF THE HEARINGS THAT ARE
11:45:08 SCHEDULED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH TOWARDS THE END OF
11:45:10 THE MONTH.
11:45:11 BUT I REALLY THINK YOU NEED TO MAKE THE EFFORT TO GET CAUGHT
11:45:14 BACK UP IN JUNE.
11:45:15 AS MR. CARLSON MENTIONED, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE
11:45:19 MARCH.
11:45:20 REMEMBER, MARCH 12th, YOU CANCELED THE REZONING HEARINGS
11:45:23 THAT EVENING.
11:45:23 SO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING MARCH, APRIL, MAY.
11:45:26 WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY CAUGHT BACK UP IN JUNE.
11:45:29 >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE.
11:45:31 AS I'M SURE YOU WOULD AGREE, WE CANCELED THE MEETING MARCH
11:45:34 12 BECAUSE OF AN OVERWHELMING PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND PUBLIC
11:45:38 HEALTH ISSUE WHICH WE'RE STILL DEALING.
11:45:40 AGAIN, WE ALL WANT TO GET BACK TO THE HEARINGS BUT IN A
11:45:43 FEASIBLE WAY, ET CETERA.
11:45:45 I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ARE YOU WORKING WITH MR.
11:45:48 SHELBY ON THAT?
11:45:55 >>GINA GRIMES: I THINK MR. SHELBY WANTED TO PUSH BACK THE
11:45:58 HEARINGS INTO JULY TO SPREAD THEM OUT MORE.
11:46:00 BUT WE COULD WORK -- THERE'S AN EXTRA DATE THAT I'M ASKING
11:46:04 THAT YOU MEET OR SUGGESTING THAT YOU MEET IN JUNE, JUNE
11:46:07 25th.
11:46:08 THAT'S NOT AN EXISTING EVENING -- SCHEDULED EVENING SESSION.
11:46:14 IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL EVENING SESSION ON JUNE 25th.
11:46:18 WE CAN SPREAD SOME OF THESE HEARINGS THAT I WAS PROPOSING TO
11:46:21 HAVE EARLIER IN THE MONTH TO THAT JUNE 25th DATE TO EVEN
11:46:26 THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
11:46:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY HERE.
11:46:33 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, BEFORE YOU, MARTY, I THINK I HEARD
11:46:36 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:46:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:46:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:39 I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT ANYONE.
11:46:42 ON THOSE 14 HEARINGS YOU HAVE FOR ONE DAY, THREE OF THEM ARE
11:46:48 ALCOHOL.
11:46:48 AND I'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN THE DAY AND NIGHT.
11:46:52 I DON'T MIND HAVING THE ALCOHOL HEARINGS AT NIGHT.
11:46:54 IN FACT, IT'S EASIER BECAUSE WE COULD ADD SOMETIMES SOME OF
11:46:57 THOSE OVERLAYS THAT HAVE FOR ZONING HEARINGS AT TIME.
11:47:03 MAYBE THE THREE FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME FOR A MONTH OR TWO,
11:47:07 WE CAN HAVE THE ALCOHOL DURING THE DAY AND INSTEAD OF HAVING
11:47:10 14 AT NIGHT, YOU HAVE 11 AT NIGHT WHICH IS CERTAINLY
11:47:13 MANAGEABLE.
11:47:14 IF LEGALLY POSSIBLE.
11:47:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:47:22 MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:47:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, COUNCIL.
11:47:27 I APPRECIATE MS. GRIMES WANTING TO AND, AGAIN, PLEASE DON'T
11:47:32 ASSUME THAT I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO MEET IN JUNE.
11:47:37 I GIVE YOU THOSE DATES ADDITIONALLY TO BE ABLE TO CATCH UP.
11:47:42 I WILL SAY, COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO
11:47:46 BE ABLE TO WORK IT OUT, THE SCHEDULE, AND INCLUDE THE PLAN
11:47:52 AMENDMENTS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION INVOLVED IN THAT.
11:47:54 I BELIEVE IF YOU WERE TO DIRECT US TO BRING BACK AN AMENDED
11:48:03 CALENDAR FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS, I BELIEVE WE CAN START
11:48:07 UP ON JUNE 11.
11:48:08 I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE, AND WE CAN TAKE THAT UP AT YOUR
11:48:11 FIRST MEETING IN MAY, MAY 7.
11:48:13 THAT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE STILL SUFFICIENT TIME, ESPECIALLY
11:48:16 THOSE PEOPLE READY TO GO, TO GET THEIR NOTICE OUT AND STILL
11:48:18 BE READY BY JUNE 11.
11:48:20 SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AND
11:48:24 WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IRON OUT AND ESPECIALLY FROM A
11:48:26 TECHNOLOGICAL STANDPOINT TO ENSURE THAT WE'LL KNOW WHERE AND
11:48:29 WHEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF THE TECHNOLOGY SHOULD EXIST TO
11:48:32 BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD IN JUNE.
11:48:40 >>LUIS VIERA: MARTY, WERE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR STATEMENT,
11:48:43 SIR?
11:48:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
11:48:46 THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.
11:48:48 I WAS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ON THE JUNE 18th DAY, WHICH
11:48:52 HAS YOU HERE 8 HEARINGS IN THE DAYTIME AND COME BACK AT
11:48:57 6 P.M. AND DO 16 HEARINGS.
11:48:59 THAT WAS MY CONCERN THAT I EXPRESSED TO MS. GRIMES ABOUT THE
11:49:03 BURDEN AND, FRANKLY, THIS IS UNDER A NEW TECHNOLOGY, WITH A
11:49:06 NEW SETTING, THAT WE HAVE NOT YET TESTED.
11:49:09 SO IT MIGHT TAKE LONGER, FRANKLY, AND MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL
11:49:14 REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HADN'T CONSIDERED.
11:49:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, POINT OF ORDER.
11:49:20 DINGFELDER, POINT OF ORDER.
11:49:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:49:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE.
11:49:27 I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE WE
11:49:31 MOVE ON BECAUSE WE SEEM TO BE SPINNING OUR WHEELS A LITTLE
11:49:33 BIT.
11:49:34 I WOULD LIKE TO GET US OFF THE DIME.
11:49:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN, SIR.
11:49:40 I'LL TAKE YOUR MOTION.
11:49:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:49:42 WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO -- I'D LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO DIRECT THE
11:49:47 LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND STAFF TO IN CONCEPT APPROVE OF
11:49:54 MS. GRIMES' MEMO AND SCHEDULE DATED APRIL 8th.
11:49:59 HOWEVER, PROVIDING THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND STAFF THE
11:50:04 FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE ITEMS AROUND SO THERE'S NO PARTICULAR
11:50:09 MEETING THAT'S BURDENSOME ON ANYBODY.
11:50:14 SO IT'S NOT A SUPER TIGHT MOTION, BUT IT'S A GENERAL
11:50:18 DIRECTION TO REQUEST THAT MS. GRIMES AND STAFF PROCEED WITH
11:50:24 HER APRIL 8th MEMO AS WELL AS ALSO ADDING THE JUNE 25th
11:50:31 DATE AS AN ADDITIONAL DATE, IF NECESSARY, TO PROVIDE
11:50:37 FLEXIBILITY.
11:50:39 FOR THE CALENDARING OF QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.
11:50:44 THAT'S MY MOTION RIGHT NOW.
11:50:46 AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER OR A
11:50:54 COMPARABLE LARGE LOCATION.
11:50:58 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:50:59 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:51:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
11:51:05 GUDES.
11:51:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:51:08 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:51:11 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:51:12 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:51:13 >>THE CLERK: ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:51:15 CARLSON?
11:51:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:51:20 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
11:51:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:51:23 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
11:51:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:51:26 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
11:51:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:51:29 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
11:51:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:51:33 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
11:51:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:51:36 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
11:51:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:51:39 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
11:51:41 MAKING THE MOTION AND GUDES SECONDING IT.
11:51:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:48 I, AGAIN, WANT TO EMPHASIZE SOMETHING, NOT TO SPEAK FOR
11:51:50 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SPEAK FOR MY VIEW ON THIS, WHICH IS
11:51:55 DIRECTING STAFF TO WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEY, MR. SHELBY, ON
11:51:58 THE NUMBER OF HEARINGS DURING THAT TIME ISN'T ABOUT CITY
11:52:02 COUNCIL PUTTING IN HOURS OR NOT.
11:52:04 IT'S A MATTER OF FEASIBILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE
11:52:08 THESE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS DONE IN THE RIGHT ORDER, AT
11:52:11 THE RIGHT TIME, ET CETERA.
11:52:13 HAVING 20 SOMETHING WITHIN ONE DAY JUST OBVIOUSLY RAISES A
11:52:17 RED FLAG I THINK FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THERE.
11:52:20 OKAY.
11:52:21 WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.
11:52:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, MARTIN SHELBY HERE.
11:52:33 LEAVING THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST ITEM, DID YOU WANT TO TAKE
11:52:37 UP ITEM 4?
11:52:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
11:52:41 THAT WOULD BE YOU.
11:52:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:52:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE THE CITY CLERK, COUNCIL.
11:52:49 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
11:52:53 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING.
11:52:54 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
11:52:58 THAT ITEM INCLUDES THE METHODOLOGY FOR SETTING AND
11:53:01 CONDUCTING THE ELECTION OF CHAIR, CHAIR PRO TEM, CHAIR OF
11:53:06 THE CRA, AND VICE-CHAIR OF THE CRA.
11:53:10 THAT ITEM IS ORIGINALLY -- OR WAS ORIGINALLY CALENDARED PER
11:53:19 CITY COUNCIL RULES FOR MAY 7.
11:53:21 WE CAN HAVE THAT MEETING VIRTUALLY OR LIVE AT THE CONVENTION
11:53:31 CENTER.
11:53:31 I JUST HEARD THAT YOU DIDN'T FAVOR THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR
11:53:39 THE ELECTION.
11:53:39 SO VIRTUALLY THAT CAN HAPPEN.
11:53:43 IF SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE A NOMINATION, YOU WOULD SAY WHO
11:53:47 YOU ARE AND WHO YOU WOULD NOMINATE.
11:53:51 THAT'S THE FIRST ROUND.
11:53:53 THEN I WOULD ASK FOR A -- IF THERE WAS ANOTHER NOMINATION.
11:53:57 AND YOU WOULD VOTE BY ROLL CALL.
11:54:05 THE OTHER ITEM WOULD BE -- THE OTHER WAY WOULD BE AT THE
11:54:08 CONVENTION CENTER WHERE YOU WOULD PRACTICE THE SOCIAL
11:54:12 DISTANCING AND VOTE THAT WAY LIVE.
11:54:19 THOSE ARE TWO ITEMS -- TWO WAYS I WOULD SAY WE CAN CONDUCT
11:54:26 THE ELECTION.
11:54:29 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:54:30 ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
11:54:32 YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:54:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THE CLERK HAVE ANYTHING ELSE,
11:54:37 MS. FOXX-KNOWLES?
11:54:38 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THAT'S IT.
11:54:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:54:40 MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING ON YOUR END, SIR?
11:54:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST LOGISTICALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, AS WE
11:54:47 SPEAK NOW, PURSUANT TO YOUR MEMO, THE MAY 7th MEETING AND
11:54:54 ALL THE MEETINGS IN MAY PRESENTLY DO NOT EXIST.
11:54:56 ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE
11:54:59 ADDING THINGS TO THE CALENDAR IN MAY IF COUNCIL SO CHOOSES.
11:55:02 ONE OF THEM THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD IF YOU WANT THE
11:55:04 ELECTION IS TO ADD THE MEETING BACK ON MAY 7th FOR THE
11:55:09 PURPOSES, ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS IS FOR THE ELECTION.
11:55:12 SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
11:55:15 THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION OF COUNCIL.
11:55:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
11:55:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:55:20 NOW WE'LL GO THROUGH COMMENTS, ET CETERA.
11:55:25 WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GO AHEAD, SIR, IF ANY.
11:55:30 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, NO, I THINK EITHER OF THOSE METHODS IS
11:55:32 FINE WITH ME, AS LONG AS LEGAL SAYS THAT IT WILL HOLD UP
11:55:37 DOING IT VIRTUALLY, I WOULD PREFER THAT.
11:55:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:55:40 COUNCILMAN CITRO?
11:55:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:55:45 I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:55:47 I WOULD LIKE TO MEET IN PERSON IF WE POSSIBLY COULD.
11:55:51 NOTHING MORE, MR. CHAIR.
11:55:52 THANK YOU.
11:55:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:55:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:55:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:56:01 NUMBER ONE IS I THINK -- AND I'LL GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIRMAN,
11:56:06 AND PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT WE START SCHEDULING ALL
11:56:15 OF OUR MEETINGS, OUR REGULAR MEETINGS.
11:56:20 THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING -- I'VE SORT OF LOST TRACK -- MAY
11:56:24 7th IS OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING?
11:56:28 >>LUIS VIERA: IT WILL BE ONCE WE SET IT.
11:56:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, AND THEREAFTER.
11:56:33 I ASSUME MAY 7th AND THE --
11:56:36 IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AGAIN TO GET THINGS MOVING
11:56:42 ALONG, I MOVE THAT -- [INTERFERENCE] [INAUDIBLE]
11:56:48 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, EITHER YOU
11:56:51 OR SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE MUTE ON YOUR PHONE.
11:56:53 IF EVERYBODY COULD PLEASE CHECK BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR
11:56:55 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:56:58 WE'LL TRY OUR BEST.
11:57:05 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:57:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY.
11:57:07 I MOVE THAT WE AT LEAST IN THE SHORT-TERM SET OUR CALENDAR
11:57:12 TO REESTABLISH OUR MAY 7th AND OUR MAY 21st MEETING NOT
11:57:16 ONLY FOR PURPOSES OF THE COUNCIL --
11:57:21 [CELL PHONE RINGING]
11:57:23 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, BOY.
11:57:24 OKAY.
11:57:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT ONLY FOR PURPOSES OF THE COUNCIL
11:57:27 CHAIR VOTE BUT ALSO FOR PURPOSES OF STARTING TO VOTE ON A
11:57:33 REGULAR CONSENT AGENDA.
11:57:37 AND ALSO ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS AS NEEDED.
11:57:42 I SAY THAT VERY CAUTIOUSLY.
11:57:44 WE'RE NOT GOING TO OVERBURDEN STAFF WITH THE STAFF REPORTS
11:57:48 AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT ON OCCASION, AS COUNCILMAN
11:57:52 CARLSON INDICATED, ON OCCASION, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE SOME
11:57:55 STAFF REPORTS ON PRESSING ISSUES.
11:57:57 IN SUMMARY, MY MOTION WOULD BE FOR NOW TO REESTABLISH OUR
11:58:02 CALENDAR MAY 7th AND MAY 21st FOR PURPOSES OF THE
11:58:06 CONSENT AGENDA AS WELL AS FOR PURPOSES OF VOTING ON THE
11:58:10 CHAIR.
11:58:11 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:58:12 WE'LL TAKE THAT UP.
11:58:14 I'M SURE YOU'LL GET A SECOND ONCE EVERYBODY FINISHES.
11:58:16 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN?
11:58:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER FROM STAFF IN
11:58:23 REGARD TO THE JULY ISSUE AND WHETHER OR NOT IF WE MADE THE
11:58:27 DECISION TO MOVE INTO JULY MEETINGS ANY SORT OF NEGATIVE
11:58:31 IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE ON THE CLERK'S STAFF AND/OR THE
11:58:37 REGULAR STAFF AS A WHOLE.
11:58:38 ARE THOSE TWO WEEKS SOMETHING THAT STAFF COUNTS ON TO TAKE
11:58:43 THEIR VACATION OR IS VACATION EVEN IN THE PLANS FOR ANYBODY?
11:58:48 I DON'T KNOW.
11:58:48 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL VACATIONS.
11:58:51 I'M TALKING ABOUT STAFF.
11:58:52 I NEVER HEARD BACK FROM MR. BENNETT ON THAT OR ANYBODY ELSE,
11:58:59 MS. FOXX-KNOWLES.
11:59:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THEY MAY NEED TIME ON THAT.
11:59:03 I DON'T KNOW.
11:59:03 CHIEF BENNETT, DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT, SIR?
11:59:08 >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF, CITY OF TAMPA.
11:59:11 I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO KEEPING
11:59:14 THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT GOING.
11:59:18 WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S NEEDS ARE, WE'RE GOING TO ADAPT TO
11:59:20 THAT.
11:59:20 THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION IS IF WE DO GET INTO
11:59:25 PHYSICAL SETTINGS, I'VE BEEN INFORMED THE CONVENTION CENTER
11:59:29 HAS NOT HAD CANCELLATIONS INTO JULY YET.
11:59:32 SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE VENUE IF FOR SOME REASON
11:59:39 THE CONVENTION CENTER GOES BACK ONLINE IN JULY AND WE'RE NOT
11:59:42 READY TO MEET IN CHAMBERS, BUT WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT AS
11:59:45 WELL.
11:59:45 I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT STAFF VACATIONS, ALTHOUGH I DO
11:59:49 APPRECIATE COUNCIL HAVING SENSITIVITY TO THAT.
11:59:52 EVERYBODY WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO CATCHING SOME BREAK
11:59:54 WHEN WE WIND DOWN FROM THE EMERGENCY, BUT WE'LL MAKE ALL THE
11:59:58 MEETINGS HAPPEN AS NEEDED.
12:00:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
12:00:03 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:00:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:00:05 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:00:06 NEXT, COUNCILMAN GUDES, ANYTHING, SIR?
12:00:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
12:00:10 MR. CHAIRMAN, I COULD SUPPORT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION
12:00:13 WHEN THAT TIME COMES.
12:00:15 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE I
12:00:19 BELIEVE THAT THE ELECTION NEEDS TO BE IN PERSON, NOT
12:00:21 VIRTUAL.
12:00:25 I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
12:00:28 ELECTION PROCESS BE IN-PERSON.
12:00:30 I YIELD BACK.
12:00:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:00:34 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:00:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:00:37 I WOULD PREFER THAT IT BE IN-PERSON.
12:00:39 THE CONVENTION CENTER IS FINE.
12:00:41 THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE THERE.
12:00:43 AND THAT'S MY PREFERENCE.
12:00:45 I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS, VIRTUALLY OR IN
12:00:48 PERSON, BUT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE IN-PERSON.
12:00:53 THANK YOU.
12:00:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:00:54 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:00:55 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ARE YOU THERE, SIR?
12:01:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M HERE.
12:01:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, ANY COMMENTS, SIR?
12:01:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.
12:01:11 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:01:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:01:12 ON MY END, FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, MY ONLY CONCERN WITH
12:01:18 HAVING THIS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER IS IF IT REQUIRES --
12:01:22 AND I'D HAVE TO ASK CHIEF BENNETT ON THIS, THE AMOUNT OF
12:01:27 CLEANING AND PRECAUTION THAT IT WOULD TAKE.
12:01:29 I'D LIKE CHIEF BENNETT TO OPINE ON THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE
12:01:33 DON'T DO THIS JUST FOR ONE VOTE.
12:01:34 EITHER WAY, IT'S FINE FOR ME.
12:01:37 I PLAN ON MAKING A NOMINATION IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
12:01:41 I THINK IN-PERSON IS GREAT, BUT I THINK THE PREPARATION IS
12:01:47 KIND OF WHAT CONCERNS ME THERE, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL.
12:01:50 CHIEF BENNETT, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, SIR?
12:01:54 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
12:01:55 ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WILL INCREASE THE
12:01:59 LOAD ON STAFF AND, OF COURSE, THE COST STRUCTURE OF WHAT
12:02:03 WE'RE DOING TO SANITIZE THE FACILITY.
12:02:06 ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, WE OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE A
12:02:10 CERTAIN LEVEL OF SECURITY AT ALL THE MEETINGS.
12:02:12 WE HAVE TO ADD THE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
12:02:15 WE'LL DO THE STERILIZATION ON THE FRONT END AND THE BACK
12:02:19 END.
12:02:20 WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IT.
12:02:21 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT TELEGRAPHING SOMETHING WE
12:02:24 CAN'T DO, BUT IT IS DIFFERENT AND MORE INVOLVED THAN WHAT
12:02:30 WE'RE DOING TODAY, BUT WE'RE STANDING BY FOR THE PREFERENCE
12:02:32 OF THE COUNCIL.
12:02:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
12:02:36 THAT WAS MY CONCERN, WHICH IS THE PREPARATION AND STAFF TIME
12:02:40 THAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THAT ONE VOTE, UNLESS IF WE WERE TO
12:02:46 STACK SOMETHING ELSE ON THERE THAT COULD BE USEFUL.
12:02:51 I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A POOR USE OF RESOURCES.
12:02:56 THAT'S JUST MY OPINION IN THAT REGARD.
12:02:58 QUESTION, MR. SHELBY, FOR PURPOSES OF THE MAY 7 MEETING, DO
12:03:01 WE HAVE TO DETERMINE TODAY WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE BY
12:03:03 PHONE OR BY PERSON?
12:03:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU DO.
12:03:09 OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY GIVE US
12:03:15 THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE WORD OUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER
12:03:18 RATHER THAN LEAVING IT FOR -- CERTAINLY, I'M LEARNING THAT
12:03:21 THE PUBLIC DOES NOT REALLY GET THE BENEFIT OF KNOWING WHEN
12:03:26 YOU'RE MEETING AND WHERE IF WE DON'T GET THE NOTICE OUT
12:03:30 SUFFICIENTLY IN TIME.
12:03:32 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WANTS TO
12:03:36 ADD OR DEFER ON THAT ON YOUR MOTION.
12:03:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
12:03:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, THE REALITY IS WE HAVE A LOT -- I
12:03:46 TALKED TO MR. SHELBY ABOUT THIS AS WELL AS MS. GRIMES.
12:03:50 WE HAVE A LOT OF LEGAL FLEXIBILITY ON OUR VOTE.
12:03:54 IT CAN BE VERBAL, OVER THE PHONE, ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE
12:03:58 SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD RATHER HAVE IT IN PERSON.
12:04:01 WE CAN DO IT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, FRANKLY, AS LONG AS WE
12:04:06 HAVE A CLERK TAKING MINUTES OR, SERIOUSLY, DOWN THERE IN THE
12:04:11 SQUARE WHERE IT'S OPEN AIR AND WE COULD KEEP OUR SIX TO TEN
12:04:17 FEET DISTANCE.
12:04:17 SO, NO.
12:04:19 MY MOTION WOULD NOT BE LOCATION SPECIFIC.
12:04:23 I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO WORK WITH LEGAL
12:04:27 STAFF AND WITH MR. BENNETT'S STAFF TO COME UP WITH THE
12:04:33 APPROPRIATE LOCATION.
12:04:34 IF YOU CAN'T COME UP WITH A LOCATION, THEN LET'S JUST DO IT
12:04:37 BY PHONE.
12:04:38 >>LUIS VIERA: IS THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION, THAT DIRECTION?
12:04:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
12:04:43 I'LL MODIFY MY MOTION ACCORDINGLY AND ASK FOR MR. GUDES TO
12:04:47 ACCEPT THE MODIFICATION.
12:04:48 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:04:54 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE MR. SHELBY, COUNCILMAN GUDES, ARE YOU
12:04:58 OKAY WITH THAT MODIFICATION, SIR?
12:04:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE HE IS MY GOOD FRIEND, I ACCEPT IT.
12:05:02 I PREFER IN PERSON.
12:05:04 IF WE CAN'T DO IT, OKAY, BUT I'LL ACCEPT THE MODIFICATION.
12:05:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT CIVILITY AND FRIENDSHIP,
12:05:13 SIR.
12:05:14 MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD.
12:05:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, COUNCILMAN
12:05:17 DINGFELDER WOULD ALSO CONSIDER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE
12:05:20 SETTING THE REGULAR HEARINGS ON THE 7th AND THE 21st,
12:05:23 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT YOU MIGHT
12:05:25 WANT TO INCLUDE WOULD BE HANDLING ALSO THE LEGISLATIVE
12:05:30 MATTERS, IF FEASIBLE.
12:05:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEGISLATIVE MATTERS IN REGARD TO?
12:05:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ORDINANCES AND THE LIKE, IF THEY CAN BE
12:05:40 HANDLED ON THE REGULAR MEETING DAYS, TO HAVE THOSE SCHEDULED
12:05:46 AS WELL.
12:05:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABSOLUTELY.
12:05:47 ANYTHING ON OUR TYPICAL CALENDAR THAT WE CAN FEASIBLY DO
12:05:52 THAT'S NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL, I'M GAME FOR AND WOULD INCLUDE AS
12:05:56 PART OF MY MOTION.
12:06:00 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, SIR?
12:06:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
12:06:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:06:05 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION?
12:06:07 OKAY.
12:06:10 I'LL JUST SAY FOR MY END, THIS IS COUNCILMAN VIERA, I WILL
12:06:14 OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THIS.
12:06:16 I DO NOT ENVISION US, DEALING WITH THINGS AND THIS MOTION
12:06:20 DOESN'T INCLUDE THIS, I BELIEVE THINGS LIKE CEREMONIALS, AND
12:06:24 WHENEVER IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE STAFF REPORTS, FOR EXAMPLE,
12:06:26 TO BE USED VERY, VERY SPARINGLY, JUST MY THOUGHTS FOR
12:06:34 WHATEVER COUNCIL SUPPORTING THIS, NOT TO DEFINE IT, BECAUSE
12:06:37 I DIDN'T MAKE IT, JUST MY CONTRIBUTING THOUGHTS.
12:06:39 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:06:42 SECONDED BY HIS GOOD FRIEND COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:06:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:06:47 >>THE CLERK: WE'LL DO A ROLL-CALL VOTE.
12:06:49 >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE.
12:06:50 I'M USED TO SAYING THAT.
12:06:52 ROLL CALL.
12:06:53 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
12:06:55 >>BILL CARLSON: AYE.
12:06:57 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
12:06:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:06:59 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
12:07:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AYE.
12:07:02 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
12:07:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:07:05 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
12:07:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:07:08 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
12:07:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:07:11 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
12:07:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:07:14 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
12:07:17 MAKING THE MOTION AND GUDES SECONDING.
12:07:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
12:07:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:07:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLARIFICATION AGAIN FOR THE MOTION SO IT'S
12:07:26 CLEAR.
12:07:27 WHEN COUNCIL SET ITS MEETING ON MAY 7, FOUR ITEMS AT 9 A.M.,
12:07:30 THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR OF CITY COUNCIL, THE ELECTION OF
12:07:34 THE CHAIR PRO TEM OF CITY COUNCIL, THE ELECTION BY CITY
12:07:36 COUNCIL OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
12:07:37 AGENCY, AND THE ELECTION BY CITY COUNCIL OF THE
12:07:40 VICE-CHAIRMAN OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, IS THAT
12:07:43 CORRECT?
12:07:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
12:07:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THAT IS CORRECT, CORRECT?
12:07:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:07:51 IT WOULD INCLUDE THOSE FOUR ITEMS.
12:07:55 DO WE ANTICIPATE A REGULAR AGENDA ON THAT DAY?
12:07:58 BECAUSE IF SO, THEN WE WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING ELSE AS
12:08:01 WELL.
12:08:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
12:08:02 THE ANSWER TO THAT I BELIEVE MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YES,
12:08:06 THAT'S CORRECT, BASED ON YOUR MOTION.
12:08:08 I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THERE ARE FOUR STAFF REPORTS PRESENTLY.
12:08:13 A LOT OF YOUR STAFF REPORTS HAVE BEEN HANDLED BY MEMORANDUM
12:08:16 AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR TO FIND
12:08:18 OUT WHETHER YOU WANTED THE ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE THOSE
12:08:19 STAFF MEMBERS NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS
12:08:24 THOSE ITEMS.
12:08:25 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THIS IS COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:08:29 AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF REPORTS ARE ON THERE.
12:08:32 I WOULD ENVISION THIS JUST BEING FOR CHAIR, VICE-CHAIR,
12:08:38 ET CETERA.
12:08:38 BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THOSE STAFF REPORTS ARE.
12:08:41 AGAIN, JUST MY VIEW OF IT, WHICH IS THAT IS TO BE USED
12:08:45 SPARINGLY RIGHT NOW FOR STAFF TIME, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW,
12:08:48 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU MADE THE MOTION, I DON'T KNOW IF
12:08:52 YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT, SIR.
12:08:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION FROM MY
12:08:56 FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE FOUR
12:08:58 STAFF REPORTS CONSIST OF SUBSTANTIVELY AND WHO MADE THOSE
12:09:03 ORIGINAL MOTIONS, BUT I'LL ACCEPT -- WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
12:09:09 PROCEDURALLY, SINCE WE ALREADY VOTED.
12:09:12 MR. CHAIRMAN, WHY DON'T YOU JUST ASK IF THERE'S ANY
12:09:15 OBJECTION.
12:09:16 BUT I'M OKAY WITH JUST WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS FOR NOW.
12:09:19 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:09:20 YES, SIR.
12:09:22 AND I THINK THAT WAS CONSIDERED AS PART OF YOUR MOTION, I
12:09:25 WOULD SAY.
12:09:28 YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
12:09:29 THAT'S OUR DIRECTION.
12:09:30 OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
12:09:35 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF I CAN INTERPRET THAT
12:09:38 AS A MOTION, SIR.
12:09:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:09:40 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY WHOM?
12:09:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL SECOND IT, MR. CHAIR.
12:09:44 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:09:46 ROLL CALL PLEASE.
12:09:47 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
12:09:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:09:51 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
12:09:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:09:54 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
12:09:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:09:56 AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WILL JUST BE FOR PURPOSES
12:09:59 OF OUR MAY MEETING.
12:10:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BOTH MEETINGS IN MAY, IS THAT CORRECT?
12:10:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, PLURAL, MAY MEETINGS.
12:10:10 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
12:10:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:10:14 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
12:10:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:10:16 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
12:10:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:10:19 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
12:10:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:10:22 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
12:10:24 MAKING THE MOTION AND CITRO SECONDING IT.
12:10:29 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:10:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:10:31 I BELIEVE, MR. SHELBY, THAT FINISHES OUR FORMAL AGENDA,
12:10:36 CORRECT?
12:10:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
12:10:37 I BELIEVE, IF WE GO BACK TO ITEM 3, WHICH WE'RE TAKING UP
12:10:42 LAST, WOULD BE TO DISCUSS AMENDING COUNCIL'S CALENDAR.
12:10:47 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION, PREPARED TO DO THAT THROUGH
12:10:50 THE MONTH OF MAY.
12:10:53 ONE THING THAT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER PUTTING ON
12:10:56 THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND THAT'S
12:10:59 COMING UP AFTER THE CRA, AND THAT IS COMING AFTER THE
12:11:04 BAYSHORE AND CITYWIDE WORKSHOP, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO
12:11:10 COME BACK WITH COUNCIL'S AMENDED CALENDAR BASED ON YOUR
12:11:13 DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.
12:11:15 SO THAT -- AND ALSO, I WANT TO ADD TO THAT, AGAIN, PLEASE,
12:11:19 AND MAYBE THIS IS THE FORM OF ANOTHER MOTION, TO BE ABLE TO
12:11:23 ALSO ADDRESS AT THE SAME TIME THE SETTING OF PLAN AMENDMENTS
12:11:29 PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THOSE HEARINGS WOULD
12:11:32 TAKE PLACE AT 5:01.
12:11:34 IF COUNCIL IS INCLINED TO INCLUDE THE PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR
12:11:38 THAT DISCUSSION AND THAT CALENDAR AND FOR COUNCIL TO COME
12:11:41 BACK AND ADOPT THAT CALENDAR AT ITS NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON
12:11:45 MAY 7, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
12:11:49 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:11:50 >>GINA GRIMES: GINA GRIMES HERE.
12:11:52 MAY 7th WOULD BE TOO LATE BECAUSE THE NOTICES HAVE TO GO
12:11:56 OUT BY JUNE 11.
12:11:59 I MEAN, NOTICES WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT BY MAY 11 IN ORDER TO
12:12:05 MAKE THE JUNE HEARING.
12:12:07 30 DAYS' NOTICE FOR THE JUNE HEARING.
12:12:09 I'M AFRAID WE'LL BE CUTTING IT TOO CLOSE.
12:12:12 PERHAPS IF COUNCIL COULD VOTE ON THE QUASI-JUDICIAL CALENDAR
12:12:17 AT THEIR WORKSHOP ON APRIL 30th, THAT THAT WOULD BE AN
12:12:21 ALTERNATIVE.
12:12:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, IF I CAN, AND THAT IS THE
12:12:29 PREROGATIVE, I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT'S GOING TO BE BASICALLY
12:12:33 A DISCUSSION, UNLESS YOU WANT TO TAKE IT UP FIRST, OF THE
12:12:37 PUBLIC'S DISCUSSION AND THE PUBLIC INPUT RELATIVE TO
12:12:40 BAYSHORE.
12:12:41 IT WOULD BE ADDING SOMETHING ELSE TO THAT PARTICULAR AGENDA,
12:12:43 IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
12:12:44 I JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
12:12:47 I COULD NOT PROTECT WHEN YOU GET TO IT IF IT WASN'T THE
12:12:51 FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA.
12:12:52 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON
12:12:56 MADE THE MOTION.
12:12:56 LET'S GO DOWN THE LINE BEGINNING WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:13:00 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT MEETING MAY TAKE HALF HOUR.
12:13:04 IT MAY TAKE THREE, FOUR HOURS.
12:13:05 IF WE PLAN ANYTHING ELSE THERE WE JUST NEED TO BE PREPARED
12:13:09 TO SPEND A LONG TIME.
12:13:10 I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SUPPLIED SUFFICIENT
12:13:13 TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE ALL THEIR INPUT.
12:13:16 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FULLY ADVERTISE AND PROMOTE IT
12:13:20 SO WE GET ALL THE INPUT AT ONE TIME TO SAVE STAFF THE
12:13:23 TROUBLE OF DOING THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.
12:13:27 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:13:28 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
12:13:30 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
12:13:32 THANKS.
12:13:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:13:33 ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS?
12:13:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
12:13:37 DINGFELDER.
12:13:40 MY EARLIER MOTION THAT COUNCIL APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY DIRECTED
12:13:46 EVERYBODY INVOLVED, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MR. SHELBY WAS
12:13:50 INCLUDED, THAT WAS THE INTENT OF MY MOTION.
12:13:53 EVERYBODY INVOLVED, STAFF, LEGAL, CLERK, ET CETERA, TO USE
12:13:58 MS. GRIMES APRIL 8 QUASI-JUDICIAL MEMO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
12:14:04 THE DATE THAT SHE ESTABLISHED TO ADD JUNE 25th, IF -- MR.
12:14:11 CHAIRMAN, IF YOU AND MS. GRIMES AND MR. SHELBY FEEL -- GOOD
12:14:16 IDEA TO COME BACK ON APRIL 30th WITH A FORMALIZATION OF
12:14:20 THAT, I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
12:14:22 IF YOU WANT A MOTION TO THAT, THAT'S FINE.
12:14:28 I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU CAN ADD TO THE
12:14:30 AGENDA.
12:14:31 BILL CARLSON, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD ONLY TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
12:14:37 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, DINGFELDER
12:14:40 MAKING A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT, SIR?
12:14:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:14:43 A MOTION WOULD BE TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT STEP IN REGARD TO
12:14:47 QUASI-JUDICIAL AND FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED, INCLUDING
12:14:51 MS. GRIMES, MR. SHELBY, STAFF, AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO
12:14:55 COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A FORMAL SCHEDULE FOR
12:14:58 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS, AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE APRIL
12:15:02 30th WORKSHOP.
12:15:03 AS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
12:15:07 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:15:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND, GUDES.
12:15:12 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK FIRST WAS COUNCILMAN CITRO I HEARD
12:15:14 FIRST.
12:15:15 AND SECONDED ALSO BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:15:17 ROLL CALL PLEASE.
12:15:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO ASK THE MAKER OF THE MOTION,
12:15:23 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF HE'D ALSO INCLUDE THAT TO ADD THE
12:15:27 PLAN AMENDMENTS TO THAT, BECAUSE THE TWO USUALLY GO
12:15:29 TOGETHER.
12:15:30 THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET CLEAR
12:15:33 DIRECTION ON THAT AS WELL.
12:15:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
12:15:40 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, I
12:15:43 ASSUME?
12:15:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:15:45 THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
12:15:46 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:15:46 THANK YOU.
12:15:47 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:15:50 >>THE CLERK: CLARIFICATION.
12:15:51 WHO SECONDED THAT?
12:15:52 WAS IT CITRO OR GUDES?
12:15:54 >>LUIS VIERA: CITRO DID FIRST.
12:15:56 >>THE CLERK: OKAY.
12:15:57 THANK YOU.
12:15:57 CARLSON?
12:15:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:16:01 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
12:16:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:16:03 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
12:16:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:16:06 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
12:16:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:16:09 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
12:16:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:16:12 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
12:16:16 >> ONE SECOND, PLEASE.
12:16:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:16:23 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
12:16:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:16:27 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
12:16:30 MAKING THE MOTION AND CITRO SECONDING IT.
12:16:35 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:16:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:16:37 NOW THAT ENDING OUR AGENDA, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WANT TO GO
12:16:42 THROUGH THE LINE AND ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU GUYS HAVE
12:16:45 ANY ONE-MINUTE ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR ANY COMMUNITY INITIATIVES
12:16:49 OR JUST ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT, REMINDERS,
12:16:53 ANYTHING.
12:16:53 WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:16:56 ANYTHING, SIR?
12:16:57 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
12:16:58 THANKS, EVERYBODY, FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND JUMPING
12:17:00 THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS AND THANKS ALSO TO ALL OF OUR FIRST
12:17:03 RESPONDERS TO CONTINUING TO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE.
12:17:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:17:07 COUNCILMAN CITRO?
12:17:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AGAIN, FOR
12:17:11 THIS MEETING.
12:17:12 THANK YOU SO LEGAL.
12:17:13 THANK YOU TO STAFF.
12:17:14 THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS.
12:17:16 I WILL BE SPEAKING TO EACH OF YOU ON THURSDAY.
12:17:20 REMEMBER, LET'S TRY AND GET ON 15 MINUTES BEFORE THE
12:17:23 MEETING.
12:17:24 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:17:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:17:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
12:17:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD.
12:17:30 THANK YOU.
12:17:30 GOOD MEETING, EVERYBODY.
12:17:31 SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG, STAFF.
12:17:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:17:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
12:17:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, IS MS. BAUMAN STILL ON THE
12:17:40 LINE?
12:17:40 IS ASHLEY BAUMAN STILL ON THE LINE?
12:17:47 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T THINK SO.
12:17:49 IS ASHLEY BAUMAN STILL THERE?
12:17:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION
12:17:54 FOR ME.
12:17:54 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD.
12:17:57 >>JOHN BENNETT: YES, SIR.
12:17:58 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:18:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, I GOT AN E-MAIL THAT CAME THROUGH
12:18:03 WHILE WE WERE ON THE PHONE IN REFERENCE TO BUSCH GARDENS
12:18:07 HAVING A TESTING SITE.
12:18:12 MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN VIERA'S DISTRICT.
12:18:15 DO WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF FLYER THAT IS DIGITAL THAT WE CAN
12:18:19 MAKE SURE WE HAVE FOR ALL THE SITES IN THE CITY SO WE CAN
12:18:25 PUT ON OUR PAGE OR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS DOING TO GET
12:18:27 THE WORD OUT SO PEOPLE KNOW WE HAVE ONE AT LEE DAVIS.
12:18:29 I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS ON THAT YESTERDAY, MAKE SURE PEOPLE
12:18:32 KNOW WHERE THE SITES ARE AT.
12:18:35 >>JOHN BENNETT: YES.
12:18:36 AS YOU KNOW, WE GOT AN UPDATE YESTERDAY FROM THE EMERGENCY
12:18:40 POLICY GROUP, FROM THE COUNTY, AND WE WILL GET A MAP OUT OF
12:18:45 THOSE SITES.
12:18:46 WE TYPICALLY KEEP OUR WEBSITE POSTED UP MINUTE BY MINUTE ON
12:18:50 TAMPAGOV.NET.
12:18:51 OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR CALL CENTER GOING, BUT WE WILL
12:18:55 ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL HAS AN UP-TO-DATE LIST OF
12:19:00 TESTING SITES THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THROUGH OUR PARTNERS TO
12:19:02 PUSH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
12:19:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:19:05 I THINK IT'S CRUCIAL, ADVENT HEALTH IS DOING SOME UP AT
12:19:09 BUSCH GARDENS.
12:19:10 THAT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE NORTH WHO MIGHT NOT GET DOWN TO
12:19:14 LEE DAVIS.
12:19:15 THANK YOU ON THAT.
12:19:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:19:16 NEXT WOULD BE GUDES AND THEN COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:19:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
12:19:23 I'M GOOD.
12:19:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:19:25 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ANYTHING?
12:19:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
12:19:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:19:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:19:30 I AGAIN WANTED TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF FOR
12:19:36 YOUR WORK HERE TODAY AND BEING HERE TODAY.
12:19:40 I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK ALSO OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
12:19:42 MR. SHELBY AND MY WONDERFUL LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT BRANNON
12:19:47 JORDANLAZO WHO HAS WORKED VERY, VERY HARD IN MOVING THIS
12:19:51 FORWARD.
12:19:52 I WANT TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN THIS
12:19:55 VERY UNORTHODOX METHOD OF MEETING.
12:19:58 AGAIN, IT TAKES A LOT OF PATIENCE AND WHATNOT.
12:20:01 I WANT TO THANK ALL SIX OF YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND REGARD
12:20:05 IN THAT SENSE.
12:20:06 OKAY.
12:20:06 I GUESS, MR. SHELBY, DO WE HAVE TO DO RECEIVE AND FILE?
12:20:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MIGHT AS WELL.
12:20:14 >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:20:15 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY MADE BY I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:20:18 SECONDED BY WHOM?
12:20:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GUDES, I'LL SECOND IT.
12:20:24 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:20:25 LET'S DO ROLL CALL.
12:20:28 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
12:20:30 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:20:32 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
12:20:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:20:34 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
12:20:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS WORRIED THAT ONE DIED
12:20:39 FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
12:20:40 I'M JUST KIDDING.
12:20:41 YES.
12:20:43 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
12:20:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:20:47 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
12:20:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:20:50 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
12:20:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:20:52 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
12:20:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:20:55 COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED --
12:20:57 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITRO
12:21:00 MAKING THE MOTION AND GUDES SECONDING IT.
12:21:03 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:21:03 COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.
12:21:05 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND STAY SAFE.
12:21:08 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
12:21:10 [MEETING ADJOURNED]
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