TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 21, 2020
9:00 A.M. VIRTUAL MEETING
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09:00:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:00:36 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
09:00:39 ORDER.
09:00:42 AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
09:00:45 A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.
09:00:48 (MOMENT OF SILENCE)
09:00:53 AND IF YOU CAN, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:00:56 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:01:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:01:10 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:01:11 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:01:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:01:19 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:01:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:01:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:01:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:01:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:01:33 ALL RIGHT.
09:01:34 BEFORE WE GO TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM,
09:01:37 MR. SHELBY, IF YOU WOULD READ THE STATEMENT.
09:01:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:01:43 GOOD MORNING.
09:01:43 THIS MORNING'S VIRTUAL MEETING IS BEING HELD DURING THE
09:01:47 COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
09:01:49 GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER 20-69, EXTENDED BY EO 20-123.
09:01:55 AND BY CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 2020-25 WHICH ESTABLISHED
09:01:59 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE, FOR THE CONDUCT OF MEETINGS
09:02:02 SUCH AS THIS USING COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
09:02:07 DOCUMENTS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEB PAGE AT
09:02:10 TAMPAGOV.NET SLASH CITY COUNCIL ALONG WITH A LINK TO
09:02:16 INSTRUCTIONS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:02:21 ALSO INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA, AND ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE
09:02:25 THROUGH THE LINK ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE.
09:02:28 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:02:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:02:30 THANKS VERY MUCH.
09:02:31 MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE
09:02:33 ADDENDUM?
09:02:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:02:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
09:02:39 MIRANDA WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:02:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:02:43 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:02:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YAY.
09:02:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:02:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:02:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:03:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:03:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:03:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:03:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:03:08 GO AHEAD?
09:03:24 CLERK, GO AHEAD.
09:03:29 THE COUNT IS UNANIMOUS TO ME.
09:03:33 THE CLERK: YES, IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
09:03:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY
09:03:36 FOR JOINING US HERE AS BOARD MEMBERS IN PERSON ON SUCH SHORT
09:03:41 NOTICE REGARDING THE ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP REGARDING
09:03:43 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
09:03:44 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS UP FIRST.
09:03:47 IF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT.
09:03:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MICROPHONE IS NOT ON.
09:04:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, THE MIKE IS NOT ON.
09:04:09 >> GOOD MEMBERS.
09:04:13 JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR A WALK ON
09:04:20 RESOLUTION.
09:04:21 2020-2024 APPROVED THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA BOND ISSUE.
09:04:27 THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION PROVIDED A RATE OF 4%.
09:04:31 UNFORTUNATELY THE FINANCIAL MARKETS HAVE BEEN VOLATILE AND
09:04:34 THE INTEREST RATES OF BONDS HAVE INCREASED OVER THAT WAS IN
09:04:38 THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION.
09:04:41 CURRENTLY THE UNIVERSITY HAS ADVISED THAT THE INTEREST RATES
09:04:44 FOR THE BOND ISSUE WOULD BE 4.22%.
09:04:47 THEREFORE, I AM REQUESTING THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE
09:04:49 AMENDING RESOLUTION THAT INCREASES THE INTEREST RATE TO 5%.
09:04:54 THIS AMENDED RESOLUTION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CITY CLERK.
09:04:57 I AM HERE, WITH BOND COUNSEL FOR UT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
09:05:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:05:06 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:05:08 ANY QUESTIONS?
09:05:09 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IN CASE ANYBODY IS WATCHING FOR THE
09:05:13 FIRST TIME, JUST EXPLAIN THE CITY'S LIABILITY.
09:05:15 >> THE CITY HAS NO LIABILITY.
09:05:21 IT'S NOT AN OBLIGATION OF THE CITY.
09:05:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:05:30 WE ARE JUST A PASS-THROUGH.
09:05:31 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
09:05:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS VIA TELEPHONE
09:05:36 HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
09:05:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
09:05:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
09:05:47 READ THIS RESOLUTION?
09:05:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:05:50 IT'S A LONG ONE.
09:05:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS MARTIN SHELBY, IF I CAN.
09:05:54 THE RESOLUTION IS A LONG ONE.
09:05:56 IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE READ BY TITLE.
09:05:58 IS THAT CORRECT MR. VASKE?
09:06:03 >>JUSTIN VASKE: IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE READ BY TITLE.
09:06:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT THIS
09:06:09 WALK-ON ITEM IS BEING DONE WITH A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT IN
09:06:13 CHAMBERS BECAUSE OF THE BOND REQUIREMENTS.
09:06:15 AND I BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WILL EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING
09:06:17 TO HAPPEN AFTER YOU TAKE THIS ITEM UP.
09:06:20 AND THAT BEING SAID, JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD,
09:06:24 THE FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT ARE YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, CHAIR PRO
09:06:29 TEM CITRO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:06:34 IS THAT CORRECT?
09:06:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:06:36 SHOW THE MEMBERS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS.
09:06:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:06:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:06:41 SO COUNCILMAN CITRO JUST MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
09:06:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DON'T HAVE TO READ THE RESOLUTION.
09:06:48 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:06:48 I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
09:06:49 >> SECOND.
09:06:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:06:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:06:54 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:06:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:06:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:07:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:07:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:07:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:07:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:07:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:07:16 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:07:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:21 NOW, THAT CONCLUDES THE PHYSICAL FOR QUORUM OF BOARD MEMBERS
09:07:29 HERE.
09:07:30 IF I COULD TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS SO THAT WE CAN GO OUR
09:07:35 SEPARATE WAYS AND DIAL IN BY TELEPHONE AND CONTINUE THIS
09:07:37 MEETING VIRTUALLY.
09:07:39 SO I CALL FOR A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
09:07:41 THANK YOU.
09:07:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, IF I CAN.
09:07:56 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
09:07:58 (AUDIO DELAY)
09:09:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- FROM MEMBERS OF THE STAFF TO ANSWER
09:18:20 QUESTIONS.
09:18:21 I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA REAL QUICK.
09:18:23 ITEM 12 WAS PULLED FOR JUST COMMENT, BUT NO STAFF NEEDS TO
09:18:29 BE PRESENT.
09:18:30 TO CLARIFY FOR NUMBER 18, I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER
09:18:33 DINGFELDER HAS SENT AN E-MAIL OUT.
09:18:37 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU NEED JEAN DUNCAN OR BRAD BAIRD
09:18:41 PRESENT VIRTUALLY HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 18?
09:18:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, BUT 18 IS --
09:18:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE $30 MILLION.
09:18:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:18:56 BRAD BAIRD.
09:18:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR THE REST OF THE STAFF REPORTS, WE
09:18:59 HAVE CHIEF DUGAN FOR 50 AND 51.
09:19:06 62.
09:19:06 AND THEN CHUCK WEBER FOR 53.
09:19:10 DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS
09:19:12 PRESENT FOR ANY QUESTIONS?
09:19:15 ARE THEY HAPPY WITH THE MEMOS THAT WERE SENT?
09:19:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHAIRMAN, MR. DINGFELDER.
09:19:26 I REQUESTED HE BE PRESENT TO DISCUSS THE BAYFRONT.
09:19:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS NEED BE PRESENT
09:19:36 FOR THE REST OF THE STAFF REPORTS?
09:19:38 ARE WE SATISFIED WITH THE MEMOS?
09:19:41 ALL RIGHT.
09:19:41 SEEING NONE, SO WE HAVE VIK PRESENT FOR THE BAYSHORE
09:19:44 DISCUSSION FOR ITEM 52 AND THEN FOR ITEM NUMBER 18, I
09:19:49 BELIEVE IT WOULD BE BRAD BAIRD OR ANYONE IN REGARDS TO THAT
09:19:54 $30 MILLION WHEN WE GET TO IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
09:19:58 SO I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF, BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC
09:20:00 COMMENT, WE HAVE AN ITEM, CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY FOR THE GOLD
09:20:04 STAR FAMILIES THAT IS TO BE RESCHEDULED.
09:20:08 THAT WAS BROUGHT ON BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
09:20:10 DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM?
09:20:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
09:20:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:20:19 YES, GIVEN OUR TELEPHONIC STATUS, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO HAVE
09:20:24 THIS REMOVED.
09:20:25 I WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE THE PUBLIC AS I HAVE BEEN PROMOTING
09:20:28 IT THAT TOMORROW, IN FACT AT 3 P.M., WE ARE HAVING A TOWN
09:20:36 HALL.
09:20:37 IT'S GOING TO BE VIRTUAL.
09:20:38 YOU CAN SEE FOLKS, ET CETERA WITH, FOUR GOLD STAR FAMILIES
09:20:41 WHO ARE GOING TO BE THERE SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT MEMORIAL DAY
09:20:46 MANES TO THEM, ALSO JOINED BY THEIR FRIEND JJ DAIS.
09:20:52 I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE CITY OF
09:20:56 TAMPA IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW THIS MEMORIAL EVENT WE ARE GOING
09:20:59 TO BE PUTTING ON AS IT'S A GOOD TIME TO LISTEN TO FAMILIES
09:21:02 WHO PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.
09:21:04 BUT WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO REMOVE
09:21:08 THAT FROM THE AGENDA.
09:21:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:21:11 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
09:21:13 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:21:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA, SECOND.
09:21:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
09:21:19 MIRANDA.
09:21:20 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:21:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:21:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:21:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:21:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:21:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:21:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:21:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:21:42 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:21:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:46 NOW WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:21:47 I BELIEVE THE CLERK IS HANDLING THAT.
09:21:49 WE DO HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, IF WE COULD
09:21:54 GO AND START THAT.
09:21:54 >>THE CLERK: GOOD MORNING.
09:21:58 WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENTER AND WE HAVE ONE MESSAGE TO BE
09:22:01 PLAYED.
09:22:01 WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE LIVE COMMENTER WHICH IS ...
09:22:07 >> AARON ALSO, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I DO APPRECIATE THE
09:22:13 MOTION PUT FORWARD BY CITY COUNCIL LAST MONTH.
09:22:17 AND I AM HERE TODAY TO CALL ON OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO
09:22:20 RALLY TOGETHER IN SUPPORT OF REIMAGINING BAYSHORE, WITH
09:22:24 LOWER SPEED LIMITS, INCREASED PATROLLING, MORE TRAFFIC
09:22:26 LIGHTS, AND IN AN IDEAL WORLD, TO CREATE SEPARATION BETWEEN
09:22:32 VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS SO WE CAN TRULY ENJOY BAYSHORE FOR
09:22:35 WHAT IT IS, A PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCE AND PUBLIC SPACE FOR
09:22:40 ACTIVE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY, IN FULL SUPPORT FOR BAY
09:22:44 CLOSING BAYSHORE ONE DAY A MONTH AND FOR PEDESTRIANS AND
09:22:50 DRIVERS ALIKE ON OUR BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
09:22:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:22:54 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
09:23:03 NOW WE WILL GO ON TO ALEXANDER INGLEMAN.
09:23:07 >> I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 52 FOR THURSDAY THE 21st
09:23:14 OF MAY COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND OPEN
09:23:17 STREETS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09:23:22 I THANK THE COUNCIL AND VIK BHIDE.
09:23:29 I WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS LIMITED.
09:23:31 ENCOURAGE FOR STREETS OR PUBLIC USE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND
09:23:38 SUPPORT THE OPEN STREETS CONCEPT ON BAYSHORE AS A
09:23:42 RECOGNITION FOR THE STREETS AND SUPPORT OF THE ADVOCACY OF
09:23:49 THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO SIGNED A MOTION TO MAKE BAYSHORE
09:23:53 A SAFER STREET.
09:23:54 I ASK THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER BROADLY THE SEGMENTS OF THIS
09:24:01 CLOSURE TO INCLUDE BAY TO BAY, REMEMBER THAT THE SECTION
09:24:06 ALSO CLOSED AND OPEN STREETS SOLUTION, CAN ALSO PROVIDE A
09:24:12 COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION FOR A CLOSURE AS WELL FOR EVENTS.
09:24:17 I ALSO ASK COUNCIL TO CHARGE CITY STAFF THAT THE PILOT
09:24:20 RECURRING EVENT UNTIL A FINAL PROGRAM CAN BE DETERMINED.
09:24:26 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HEARING THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO OUR
09:24:29 COMMUNITY.
09:24:30 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:24:31 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT
09:24:39 PORTION OF THE MEETING.
09:24:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:40 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, COULD I MAKE A COMMENT?
09:24:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THIS COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:24:48 >>BILL CARLSON: CARLSON, YES.
09:24:51 THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION IN CASE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING RIGHT
09:24:54 NOW, THAT BAYSHORE, THAT BAYSHORE DISCUSSION WAS BASED ON
09:25:04 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION TO ASK THE MAYOR TO CONSIDER
09:25:07 CLOSING BAYSHORE ONCE A MONTH, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER MOTION
09:25:11 THAT YOU ALL AGREED TO, WHICH IS TO LOOK MORE
09:25:14 COMPREHENSIVELY AT BAYSHORE AND TO HAVE CITY STAFF COME BACK
09:25:18 WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT BAYSHORE.
09:25:21 AND SO I THINK THE FIRST MOTION WAS TO ASK THE MAYOR TO MAKE
09:25:26 A DECISION, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE ANY
09:25:28 DECISIONS ON THAT TODAY, BECAUSE WE HAD ASKED THE MAYOR TO
09:25:31 MAKE A DECISION, BUT ON THE SECOND ONE, I AM GOING TO MAKE A
09:25:33 MOTION AT THE END TO GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE THAT AFTER HAVING
09:25:37 TALKED TO THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
09:25:39 SO ANYBODY WHO HAPPENS TO BE WATCHING FOR THE PUBLIC, PLEASE
09:25:41 WATCH THE WHOLE MEETING ANYWAY, BUT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN
09:25:46 FOLLOWING THE ISSUE ABOUT SAFETY, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS
09:25:50 ANALYZING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC IN OUR FOUR HOUR
09:25:54 MEETING AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE GETTING BACK TO US IN A
09:25:56 COUPLE MONTHS.
09:25:57 THAT WILL BE MAYBE A BETTER COMMUNICATION MEETING SO PEOPLE
09:26:03 CAN GIVE INPUT AT THAT TIME.
09:26:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:26:05 WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON BAYSHORE.
09:26:07 AT THE END OF THIS AGENDA.
09:26:08 WE HAVE VIK STANDING BY AND WE WILL GO INTO DEEPER
09:26:13 DISCUSSION.
09:26:14 NOW A REQUEST BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
09:26:18 LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
09:26:19 SEEING NONE, WE BEGIN WITH THE COMMITTEE REPORT AND WE BEGIN
09:26:23 WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
09:26:24 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
09:26:25 REMEMBER THAT ITEM NUMBER 5 IS A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION;
09:26:29 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:26:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:26:33 I AM MOVING ITEMS 2, 3, 4 AND 6 WITH A SUBSTITUTE OF 5.
09:26:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?
09:26:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MIRANDA.
09:26:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:26:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:26:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:26:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:26:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:26:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:27:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:27:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:27:08 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:27:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:27:16 NEXT IS PARKS RECREATION CULTURAL COMMITTEE.
09:27:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING.
09:27:21 THANKS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THIS MORNING.
09:27:23 I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 7 THROUGH 10.
09:27:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:27:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND BY MIRANDA.
09:27:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:27:30 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:27:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:27:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:27:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:27:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:27:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:27:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:27:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:27:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
09:27:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:27:57 MOVING ONTO THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
09:27:59 BEFORE WE TAKE IT UP FOR A VOTE, ITEM NUMBER 12 WAS
09:28:07 REQUESTED TO BE PULLED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:28:10 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 12, GO AHEAD.
09:28:13 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:28:14 I JUST WANT TO SAY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WAS VERY GOOD
09:28:17 ABOUT PROACTIVELY ABOUT APPROACHING ME IN A TRANSPARENT WAY
09:28:22 DISCUSSING THIS WITH ME.
09:28:23 THIS ISSUE, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY IT IN THE SUMMARY
09:28:26 IN DETAIL, IT'S ABOUT THE TAP PROJECT WHICH YOU ALL KNOW
09:28:30 THAT I AM AGAINST, AND I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
09:28:32 PUBLIC IS AGAINST.
09:28:34 ONE THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT IN THE FUTURE IN THE SUMMARY
09:28:37 ON THE AGENDA THAT WE CLEARLY STATE IT SO THAT THE PUBLIC
09:28:42 CAN SEE THAT.
09:28:43 BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE VOTED A YEAR AGO TO PUT
09:28:48 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TAP ON HOLD.
09:28:50 THIS IS A PREEXISTING AGREEMENT WITH SWFWMD THAT GOES BACK
09:28:54 TO 2018, SO I DON'T OBJECT TO THIS, IT'S ACTUALLY A DELAY IN
09:29:00 THE STUDY GOING ON.
09:29:02 I THINK THAT WITH ALL THE ENGINEERING SCIENCES GOING ON
09:29:07 NATIONALLY, INTERNATIONALLY ABOUT THE SUBJECT, THE PROPOSAL
09:29:09 THAT HAS BEEN ON THE TABLE, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD
09:29:14 REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE TESTING SAYS.
09:29:15 IT'S NOT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD.
09:29:19 BUT IT SOUND LIKE WE WOULD BE LIABLE IF WE DON'T MOVE
09:29:22 FORWARD WITH THIS AS IT IS.
09:29:25 SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE ROBUST DISCUSSIONS ABOUT
09:29:28 THIS TOPIC IN THE FUTURE.
09:29:30 BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO
09:29:33 WERE ALARMED BY THIS AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE THEY FOUND IT ON
09:29:36 THEIR OWN.
09:29:37 AND I JUST WANT TO A SURE THEM, I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS
09:29:40 ONLY BECAUSE IT'S TO HONOR A PREEXISTING CONTRACT BUT IT'S
09:29:43 NOT IN ANY WAY FOR THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD.
09:29:49 THANK YOU.
09:29:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:51 BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH ANY VOTING, I KNOW ITEM 18, REQUEST
09:29:54 BY COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, IT IS A TWO-PART ITEM, 18 AND
09:30:00 19.
09:30:00 BUT WITH REGARD TO 18 IF WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM STAFF TO TAKE
09:30:05 ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT $30 MILLION PROJECT.
09:30:07 >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
09:30:15 INFRASTRUCTURE.
09:30:15 I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM.
09:30:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:30:22 THIS IS JOHN DINGFELDER, COMMITTEE CHAIR.
09:30:26 YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, BEFORE I MOVE ALL THESE ITEMS, JUST
09:30:31 WANTED -- THIS ONE IS PART OF OUR PIPES PROGRAM.
09:30:38 (FEEDBACK IN BACKGROUND)
09:30:43 SOMEBODY HAS FEEDBACK OR SOMETHING GOING ON.
09:30:45 MR. BAIRD, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN HOW THIS FITS INTO THE PIPES
09:30:48 PROGRAM, THE $30 MILLION PROJECT.
09:30:51 I ALSO WANTED FOR FUTURE REFERENCE TO MAKE SURE ANYTHING
09:30:54 LARGE LIKE THIS GETS DROPPED OFF AND MOVED INTO THE
09:30:58 AUTOMATICALLY INTO STAFF REPORTS.
09:31:02 AND THIRDLY, MR. BAIRD, IF YOU COULD REITERATE PROBABLY WHAT
09:31:08 YOU SAID TWO WEEKS AGO IN REGARD TO THE WMBE PARTICIPATION
09:31:17 IN REGARD TO THIS ITEM.
09:31:19 THANK YOU.
09:31:19 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THANK YOU.
09:31:26 THIS ITEM IS THE INITIAL ENGINEERING SERVICES THAT TAKES US
09:31:30 THROUGH THE DESIGN FOR THE MASTER PLAN PROJECT AT THE DAVID
09:31:38 L. TIPPIN WATER TREATMENT FACILITY THAT INVOLVES QUITE A FEW
09:31:46 FACILITIES OUT THERE THAT WE ARE IMPROVING OR
09:31:49 REHABILITATING.
09:31:53 THERE IS A WHOLE LIST OF THEM ON THE FACT SHEET THAT I
09:31:55 SHARED WITH CITY COUNCIL, OR THAT JEAN DUNCAN SHARED WITH
09:32:01 CITY COUNCIL THIS WEEK.
09:32:03 AND THE INITIAL SERVICES AMOUNT TO THE 30 MILLION, AND THE
09:32:11 ENTIRE PROJECT AT THIS POINT IS ESTIMATED TO BE $300
09:32:16 MILLION.
09:32:17 SO THAT'S 10% OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT AMOUNT.
09:32:24 I DO WANT TO SAY WITH REGARD TO THE EAO PARTICIPATION THAT
09:32:29 THE PARTICIPATION WAS A COMMITMENT BY THE TIPPIN TEAM AND
09:32:36 THE PRIME ENGINEERS WHICH ARE CM SMITH AND COROLLO IS 27%
09:32:45 FOR WMBE AND SLE PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.
09:32:53 IN MY CAREER I DON'T THINK I HAVE SEEN PARTICIPATION AT THAT
09:32:57 LEVEL FOR THE INITIAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, SO THAT'S VERY
09:33:02 PROMISING AND VERY POSITIVE.
09:33:06 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:33:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:33:12 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
09:33:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A COMMENT.
09:33:17 THE $300 MILLION IS A HUGE AMOUNT.
09:33:22 I THINK PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PROJECT THE CITY HAS EVER
09:33:26 UNDERGONE.
09:33:26 WE ALSO TOOK A TOUR LAST YEAR OF THE WATER PLANT AND WE --
09:33:35 WENT BACK 30, 40, 50, SOME OF THEM 100 YEARS THAT NEEDED
09:33:40 REBUILDING, OR REPLACEMENT.
09:33:43 AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A HUGE NEED.
09:33:46 THE TIPPIN PLANT PROVIDES -- THIS IS A HUGE NEED.
09:33:50 THE TIPPIN PLANT PROVIDES WATER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
09:33:53 SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
09:33:57 WE HAVE WE HAVE -- OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT TO KEEP
09:34:00 IT UP TO SPEED.
09:34:00 I CONGRATULATE THE DEPARTMENT FOR WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG
09:34:03 TIME.
09:34:04 IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
09:34:06 PLUS PAYING FOR IT ON THE WATER BILL AND WILL CONTINUE
09:34:11 PAYING FOR IT ON THE WATER BILL FOR MANY YEARS BUT I THINK
09:34:13 IT'S WORTHWHILE.
09:34:14 I WILL BE GLAD TO MOVE --
09:34:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
09:34:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER.
09:34:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
09:34:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
09:34:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS MR. DINGFELDER SAID, THIS IS A BIG
09:34:28 PROJECT WITH A LOT OF MONEY.
09:34:29 BUT AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MONITOR THE
09:34:33 PARTICIPATION?
09:34:34 WHAT IS THE MECHANISM WE ARE GOING TO USE TO MAKE SURE THAT
09:34:37 WE ARE DOING WHAT WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO DO?
09:34:39 THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THIS TYPE OF MONEY.
09:34:43 WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MONITOR IT?
09:34:46 >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS BRAD BAIRD.
09:34:50 >> THE TIPPIN TEAM AND PRIME ENGINEERS WILL BE SUBMITTING
09:35:03 MONTHLY INVOICES, AND WITH THAT, THEY WILL BE REPORTING ON
09:35:06 THE EBO PARTICIPATION AS THE ACTUAL PARTICIPATION OF THE
09:35:12 SUBCONSULTANTS AND SUBCONTRACTORS THAT ARE PART OF THE TEAM.
09:35:17 IN ADDITION, OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE FULL-TIME INSPECTION
09:35:21 ON-SITE OF THE PROJECT, AND WE WILL BE MONITORING WHICH
09:35:28 CONTRACTORS ARE BEING USED AND WHICH SUBCONSULTANTS ARE
09:35:33 BEING USED AS WELL.
09:35:35 SO THAT WILL BE THE PROCESS, AND EVERY MONTH WE WILL WORK
09:35:42 WITH THE EBO OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY
09:35:47 MADE IS BEING MET.
09:35:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, BRAD.
09:35:54 BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE VISUALLY INSPECTING
09:35:58 IT ON THE JOB SITE WHEN WE ARE PUTTING OUT THIS AMOUNT OF
09:36:02 MONEY.
09:36:02 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:36:03 I YIELD BACK.
09:36:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, IF THERE ARE
09:36:06 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 11
09:36:09 THROUGH 19?
09:36:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
09:36:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:36:16 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.
09:36:19 I THINK IT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD POINT.
09:36:21 I KNOW YOU AND I, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S VERY HARD TO
09:36:26 MAKE SURE WE PUSH THE MINORITY BUSINESS AND SMALL BUSINESS
09:36:31 NUMBERS HIGHER.
09:36:33 AND I'M THRILLED THAT THIS PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS SHOWING
09:36:38 GREAT IMPROVEMENT.
09:36:40 BUT I THINK, WHAT IS THAT EXPRESSION, MR. MIRANDA, ABOUT
09:36:46 TRUST AND VERIFY?
09:36:48 AND MR. GUDES MAKES A GOOD POINT THAT WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT
09:36:52 ON VERIFYING THOSE NUMBERS.
09:36:53 SO WE WILL ALL CONTINUE TO BE VIGILANT ON THAT.
09:36:56 I'LL MOVE THOSE ITEMS 11 THROUGH, WHAT WAS IT,
09:37:01 MR. CHAIRMAN --
09:37:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA, SECOND.
09:37:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 19.
09:37:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 11 THROUGH 19.
09:37:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND
09:37:10 BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:37:12 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:37:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:37:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:37:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:37:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:37:26 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:37:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:37:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
09:37:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:37:39 NEXT UP WE HAVE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBER
09:37:42 MIRANDA.
09:37:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEMS 20 THROUGH 23, SIR.
09:37:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:37:52 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
09:37:53 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:37:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:38:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:38:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:38:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:38:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:38:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:38:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:38:16 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:38:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WOO WE GO TO BUILDING ZONING
09:38:24 PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR ITEM 24
09:38:30 THROUGH 45.
09:38:32 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEMS 24 THROUGH 45, PLEASE.
09:38:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MIRANDA.
09:38:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:38:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:38:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:38:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:38:53 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:38:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:38:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:38:59 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
09:39:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:39:04 OUR FINAL COMMITTEE IS TRANSPORTATION.
09:39:06 AND THAT IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR ITEM NUMBER 46.
09:39:10 >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE THE SOLE SOLITARY ITEM, 46.
09:39:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:39:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MIRANDA.
09:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:39:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:39:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:39:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UM, YES, WITH A QUICK COMMENT.
09:39:43 I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF SINGLE SOURCE.
09:39:46 THIS PARTICULAR ITEM LOOKS LIKE THE DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO
09:39:49 STANDARDIZE THE STREET SWEEPER FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES, AND
09:39:59 SO WE CAN TURN IT BACK IN AND GET A NEW ONE EVERY FOUR
09:40:02 YEARS.
09:40:03 I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF SINGLE SOURCE BUT I'LL SUPPORT THIS
09:40:06 ONE UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.
09:40:09 YES.
09:40:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:40:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:40:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:40:24 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:40:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:40:27 THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA.
09:40:29 WE GO TO ITEMS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
09:40:33 ITEM NUMBER 47 IF YOU NOTE AT THE BOTTOM PUBLIC HEARING TO
09:40:36 BE HELD BY A HEARING OFFICER SO THAT IS NOT COMING BEFORE
09:40:39 COUNCIL.
09:40:40 BUT WE STILL NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION, IF WE
09:40:44 CAN HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
09:40:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:40:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BY MIRANDA.
09:40:53 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:40:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.
09:40:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
09:41:01 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:41:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:41:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:41:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:41:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:41:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:41:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:41:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:41:23 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:41:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:41:27 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 48.
09:41:29 WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR JUNE 4, 2020 AT THE CONVENTION
09:41:39 CENTER.
09:41:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO MOVE JUNE 4th AND JUNE
09:41:44 25th OF 2020 AT, JUNE 4, 2020 AT 10:30 AND JUNE
09:41:51 25th, 9:30 A.M. AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AT 333 SOUTH
09:41:55 FRANKLIN AVENUE MEETING ROOMS 14-17 FIRST FLOOR CHANNELSIDE
09:42:01 ENTRANCE.
09:42:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO SECOND.
09:42:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES I THINK
09:42:07 I HEARD FIRST.
09:42:08 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:42:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:42:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:42:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:42:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:42:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:42:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:42:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:42:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:42:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FINAL ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 49, IT IS A
09:42:38 REVIEW HEARING TO BE SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 6, 2020 AT
09:42:42 10:30 A.M. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT?
09:42:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MIRANDA TO HAVE THAT HEARING
09:42:49 AUGUST 6, 2020 AT 10:30 A.M.
09:42:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:42:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND, GUDES.
09:42:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:42:59 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
09:43:01 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:43:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:43:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:43:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:43:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:43:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:43:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:43:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:43:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:43:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS THAT
09:43:30 CONCLUDES THE VOTING PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
09:43:34 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER 50?
09:43:39 THERE WAS A MEMO FROM CHIEF DUGAN.
09:43:42 ANY FOLLOW-UP OR ANYTHING FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:43:46 ALL RIGHT.
09:43:46 HEARING NONE, ITEM NUMBER 51, SAME FROM POLICE CHIEF DUGAN.
09:43:54 MEMO WAS SENT.
09:43:55 ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:43:59 ALL RIGHT.
09:43:59 IF WE CAN GET A MOTION TO MOVE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER
09:44:05 50.
09:44:10 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
09:44:14 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:44:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND BY MIRANDA.
09:44:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:44:19 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:44:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:44:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:44:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:44:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:44:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:44:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:44:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:44:41 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:44:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:44:45 ITEM NUMBER 51 IS PART TWO OF THAT SERIES.
09:44:49 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT RESOLUTION FOR 51?
09:44:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
09:44:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:44:56 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:44:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MIRANDA.
09:44:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:45:02 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:45:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:45:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:45:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:45:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:45:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:45:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:45:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:45:24 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:45:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:45:27 WE ARE GOING TO JUMP AHEAD TO ITEM NUMBER 53.
09:45:30 A MEMO WAS SENT BY CHUCK WEBER FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
09:45:33 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
09:45:37 ALL RIGHT.
09:45:38 SEEING OR HEARING NONE, ITEM NUMBER -- WAS A TEN-MINUTE
09:45:45 PRESENTATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT A MEMO WAS SENT
09:45:49 OUT REQUESTING THIS BE DONE AT A LATER DATE CONSIDERING THE
09:45:52 CIRCUMSTANCES OF COVID-19.
09:45:54 SO WITH THAT, NUMBER 52 FOR DISCUSSION AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE
09:46:01 VIK STANDING BY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
09:46:04 I KNOW A MEMO WAS SENT OUT AND WE WILL BEGIN, VIK, IF YOU
09:46:07 ARE THERE.
09:46:08 >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:46:10 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:46:11 ITEM 52 IS RELATED TO A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THAT
09:46:19 REQUESTS THE MAYOR TO CONSIDER MOVING A SECTION OF BAYSHORE
09:46:24 AND ANY OTHER ROAD IDENTIFIED ACCORDING TO STAFF REPORT,
09:46:29 BEGINNING IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.
09:46:32 ONE DAY A WEEK ON SUNDAYS FOR PEDESTRIANS.
09:46:38 SO THIS IS PART OF A BROADER PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE ALREADY,
09:46:42 WHICH IS INITIATED AS PART OF THE MAYOR'S TRANSFORMING
09:46:48 CAMPUS TOMORROW INITIATIVE.
09:46:52 AS YOU RECALL THERE WAS A TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AS PART
09:46:54 OF THAT, THAT, AND A RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT.
09:47:01 IT WAS DEVELOPED A CITY SPONSORED PROGRAM THAT MAKES IT
09:47:04 EASIER AND SIMPLER FOR ENGAGING COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO WORK
09:47:08 WITH THE CITY, THE MOST ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS THAT ACTIVATE
09:47:12 CITY STREETS, AS DYNAMIC PUBLIC SPACES.
09:47:16 THAT WAS THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION.
09:47:19 I HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE THAT IS OUR MANDATE.
09:47:23 THIS IS SOMETHING WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING, STREET
09:47:27 ACTIVATION IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY UNDER DEPLOYMENT AS PART OF
09:47:32 THE LIFT-UP LOCAL PROGRAM AS WELL.
09:47:35 GENERALLY, THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF STREET ACTIVATIONS THAT
09:47:38 WE LOOK AT.
09:47:40 ONE IS THESE COULD BE LOCAL STREETS.
09:47:46 THE OTHER IS MAIN STREET THAT'S LIFT UP LOCAL FOR EITHER
09:47:51 CULTURAL OR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.
09:47:54 AND THE THIRD IS OPEN STREETS.
09:47:57 AND THOSE ARE REALLOCATING THE PUBLIC REALM FOR DIFFERENT
09:48:03 MODES LIKE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS, WHICH IS WHAT WAS
09:48:07 PROPOSED IN THIS MOTION.
09:48:09 SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS PART OF OUR
09:48:16 TACTICAL URBANISM PROGRAM.
09:48:21 AND THERE ARE THREE ASPECTS TO THIS PROGRAM THAT WE USE
09:48:27 TOWARDS DETERMINING WHAT THE SITES ARE.
09:48:31 THE PRIMARY CONCERN OR THE PRIMARY MEASURE IS COMMUNITY
09:48:38 ENGAGEMENT, OR LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, UNDERSTANDING
09:48:42 WHAT THEY WANT AT ANY GIVEN LOCATION.
09:48:45 THAT'S HOW WE DO SITE SELECTION.
09:48:48 THERE ARE MANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL, IF THIS IS CITY
09:48:53 OR COUNTY OWNED, TO COMMUNICATE WITH, WHETHER THERE ARE
09:48:57 TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND DETOURS, THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS ALONG
09:49:01 FOR ACCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING SECONDARY
09:49:07 IMPACTS, EMERGENCY AND TRANSIT ACCESS, THAT'S A KEY
09:49:10 CONSIDERATION AS WELL, WHAT SORT OF RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE
09:49:14 FROM THE COMMUNITY, IS THERE VOLUNTEER SUPPORT, IS COST A
09:49:20 SIGNIFICANT CONSIDERATION, LEVEL OF ACTIVATION, AND THE TYPE
09:49:23 OF EVENTS THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT.
09:49:28 SO THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED WITHIN THE CITY, AND THE
09:49:34 PRESENTATION THROUGH THE EVENT WAS ATTACHED WITH OUR STAFF
09:49:38 REPORT.
09:49:39 CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR IMPLEMENTING ANY
09:49:43 TYPE OF OPEN-STREET CLOSURE GIVEN THE PUBLIC HEALTH
09:49:48 EMERGENCY THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH, AND REALLY THE CONCERN
09:49:53 HERE IS TO LIMIT ANY KIND OF CONGREGATION.
09:50:00 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION DECISION AND WE
09:50:05 CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM,
09:50:10 AS WE ARE DOING IN OTHER WAYS WITH THE MAIN STREET CONCEPT.
09:50:15 AT THIS POINT I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER
09:50:20 THOUGHTS.
09:50:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS MIRANDA.
09:50:28 CAN I SPEAK TO THE QUESTION THAT HE BROUGHT UP, SOME OF THE
09:50:31 THINGS?
09:50:33 MAY I, MR. CHAIRMAN?
09:50:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
09:50:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:50:37 YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO HAVE FACTS IN FRONT OF ME BEFORE I MAKE
09:50:41 A DECISION.
09:50:41 AND I HAVE NOT BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BECAUSE I HAVE NO
09:50:44 FACTS.
09:50:45 AND LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE FACTS ARE THAT I AM LOOKING AT.
09:50:47 HAS THERE EVER BEEN A STUDY DONE ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC
09:50:50 THAT'S ON BAYSHORE NOW, IT'S GOING TO GO, HOW IT'S GOING TO
09:50:54 GET THERE AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE IMPACT TO THE TOTAL
09:50:56 AREA OF THAT PART OF THE CITY?
09:50:59 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC TODAY ON GANDY BOULEVARD, AND
09:51:02 YOU LOOK FROM HIMES, FROM HIMES AND FROM MacDILL, FROM
09:51:08 GANDY NORTH, WHAT KIND OF IMPACTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN TO
09:51:12 THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS?
09:51:13 AND WHAT KIND OF IMPACT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE, NOT ON
09:51:15 BAYSHORE, BUT JUST NORTH -- WEST OF BAYSHORE.
09:51:19 WE ARE CLOSING, IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, THE TWO EAST LANES
09:51:23 ON THE BAYSHORE.
09:51:24 THE TWO WEST LANES, I IMAGINE, WILL BE OPEN.
09:51:28 I'M NOT SURE.
09:51:29 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, HAVE WE DONE A STUDY THAT DETERMINES
09:51:32 WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE AREA?
09:51:34 HAVE WE DONE A STUDY TO DETERMINE IF THIS DOES HAPPEN WHERE
09:51:38 ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK?
09:51:40 BECAUSE ONCE YOU CLOSE THAT ROAD, IT'S EVERYBODY'S ROAD, NOT
09:51:44 JUST THE PEOPLE FROM BAYSHORE.
09:51:45 AND I KNOW THAT AND THEY KNOW THAT.
09:51:47 AND I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT.
09:51:48 HOWEVER, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK?
09:51:51 WHAT ABOUT THE 200 CARS SHOW UP AND YOU ARE TELL ME WHERE
09:51:55 THE CARS ARE GOING TO PARK OR A THOUSAND CARS WHERE THEY ARE
09:51:58 GOING TO PARK AND YOU TELL ME IF THERE ARE ANY BATHROOMS OR
09:52:02 RESTROOMS OPEN UP, ANY REFRESHMENTS FOR PEOPLE TO EAT AND
09:52:05 DRINK I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE LOGIC BECAUSE NO ONE HAS
09:52:08 EXPLAINED IT.
09:52:09 IF YOU CAN GET ALL THOSE ANSWERS FOR US, THEN MAYBE WE CAN
09:52:12 HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
09:52:13 BUT THIS OPERATION, WITHOUT A STUDY, WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF
09:52:17 THE FACTS, IS JUST SOMETHING WE I CAN'T VOTE THAT WAY.
09:52:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:52:25 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:52:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
09:52:35 GO AHEAD.
09:52:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FROM
09:52:40 MR. BIDHE, AND MR. MIRANDA, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS BEING
09:52:46 THE SOUTH TAMPA REPRESENTATIVE, VERY AWAY OF THE TRAFFIC
09:52:52 ISSUES, THE PARKING ISSUES THAT COULD IMPACT DOWN IN THE
09:52:55 SOUTH END.
09:52:56 HOWEVER, WHAT I HEARD FROM MR. BHIDE IS IF THE CITY DID THIS
09:53:02 ONE SUNDAY A MONTH ON AN EXPERIMENTAL BASIS, WE ARE TALKING
09:53:08 ABOUT DOING IT FROM ROME NORTH TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.
09:53:12 MR. BHIDE, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT?
09:53:14 I HAVE A FEW OTHER COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:53:16 >>VIK BHIDE: SO I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE MOTION WAS FOR A
09:53:20 CLOSURE ONCE A WEEK, AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH GENERAL
09:53:26 OPEN STREET --
09:53:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONCE A MONTH.
09:53:29 ONCE A MONTH.
09:53:30 >>VIK BHIDE: ONCE A MONTH.
09:53:32 SORRY.
09:53:32 ONE SUNDAY A MONTH.
09:53:33 SORRY.
09:53:34 YES.
09:53:35 SORRY.
09:53:38 SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OPEN STREET METHODOLOGY.
09:53:42 THERE IS TEMPERABLE, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, WHILE WE HAVE
09:53:46 LOOKED AT SOME CONCEPTS PREVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY AT
09:53:54 THIS POINT FOR ALL OF THE CONSIDERATIONS STATED PREVIOUSLY
09:53:58 INCLUDING IF A LOT OF PEOPLE DO SHOW UP, THEN WHERE WILL
09:54:04 THEY PARK?
09:54:05 AND SO THAT'S A VALID CONCERN AS WELL.
09:54:09 SO AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE A DEEP DIVE.
09:54:15 AND NOT JUST THIS LOCATION.
09:54:17 ANY OTHER LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY.
09:54:20 WE DO LOOK AT THIS AS A CITY-WIDE PROGRAM, BECAUSE ONE OF
09:54:23 THE THINGS THAT THIS PROGRAM INFORMS US IS HOW THIS FACILITY
09:54:30 WOULD OPERATE WITH ANY KIND OF CONSTRAINTS.
09:54:34 IT'S EXPERIMENTATION AS WELL.
09:54:37 AND ANOTHER POINT THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED, WHICH
09:54:42 WAS HAS A STUDY BEEN CONDUCTED ON BAYSHORE, TO UNDERSTAND
09:54:47 HOW THIS FACILITY WOULD OPERATE?
09:54:51 ON A LONG-TERM BASIS WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH SEVERAL
09:54:54 STAKEHOLDERS TO CONDUCT AND REVIEW SUCH A STUDY RIGHT NOW.
09:54:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BHIDE, I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEWHERE,
09:55:07 READ SOMEWHERE, THAT THIS WAS ROME TO THE NORTH TO DOWNTOWN.
09:55:11 >>VIK BHIDE: THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A PREVIOUS CONCEPT.
09:55:17 BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SET OR CLEAR
09:55:22 LIMITS.
09:55:24 WE WOULD NEED A DEEPER DIVE IN THIS AND OTHER ROADWAYS.
09:55:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
09:55:33 MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS.
09:55:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:55:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA AGAIN, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:55:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST NOW, LOOKING AT A STUDY, ABOUT THAT
09:55:47 YOU STUDY IS NOT COMPLETE.
09:55:48 I AM NOT SAYING VOTE OR NOT TO VOTE ON THIS.
09:55:51 WHAT I AM SAYING IS THERE'S NO STUDY DONE COMPLETED TODAY
09:55:54 YET THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.
09:55:57 IT'S ROME NORTH AND MAYBE I MISSED THAT CLOSURE.
09:55:59 SO WHAT'S HAPPENED ON ROME SOUTH?
09:56:02 IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO TRAVEL
09:56:04 WITH CARS?
09:56:05 AND IF THEY ARE, THEY CAN'T CERTAINLY CONTINUE ON BAYSHORE
09:56:09 HEADING NORTH.
09:56:11 SO ARE THEY GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS?
09:56:13 I DON'T LIKE -- MAYBE IT'S ME, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT BROAD
09:56:19 TERM, AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS.
09:56:21 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START CLOSING STREETS -- AND I'M NOT
09:56:24 AGAINST YOUR PROGRAM, BUT WHEN YOU START CLOSING STREETS,
09:56:26 THAT MEANS THAT SOME OTHER PLACE IN THE CITY IS GOING TO
09:56:29 WANT THE SAME AMENITIES THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE ON BAYSHORE
09:56:33 HAVE.
09:56:33 HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THAT IF FIVE PLACES OR FOUR OF
09:56:36 THE DISTRICTS MAKE UP THE WHOLE CITY, FOUR, FIVE, SIX AND
09:56:40 SEVEN.
09:56:40 SO SOMEBODY IN THOSE DISTRICTS WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING.
09:56:42 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO?
09:56:45 AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO APPLY THE LIGHTING, THE STREETS, THE
09:56:51 OFFICERS, WHERE IS ALL OF THAT COMING FROM TO DO ALL OF
09:56:53 THAT?
09:56:54 I DON'T KNOW.
09:56:54 I'M NOT BEING -- I AM NOT TRYING TO BE FOR OR AGAINST
09:56:59 ANYTHING.
09:57:00 I JUST WANT FACTS.
09:57:01 I DEAL WITH FACTS.
09:57:02 AND I DON'T HAVE ANY FACTS.
09:57:06 BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT.
09:57:07 I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TAKING A VOTE TODAY.
09:57:09 I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
09:57:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:57:13 ANY RESPONSE TO THAT, VIK?
09:57:16 >>VIK BHIDE: I AGREE THAT WE DO NEED TO, YOU KNOW,
09:57:22 UNDERSTAND ALL THE FACTORS, AND ANYTHING.
09:57:29 ON BAYSHORE WHAT WE DO KNOW IN TEXT OF FACTS ARE VOLUME.
09:57:33 ON A SUNDAY ARE LOWER.
09:57:36 SO EARLY INDICATIONS ARE, IT'S NOT UNFEASIBLE BUT WE DO HAVE
09:57:44 TO CONSIDER THE TIMING OF THIS, AND WE DO HAVE TO CONSIDER
09:57:47 COMMUNITY INPUT.
09:57:50 WE DID HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY IN THE WORKSHOP A FEW WEEKS
09:57:55 BACK, BUT THERE WERE TWO ASPECTS TO IT.
09:57:58 ONE IS WHAT ARE WE DOING FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT TO IMPROVE
09:58:01 THE SAFETY ON BAYSHORE, AND WE DID PRESENT ACTIONS THAT WE
09:58:04 ARE GOING TO TAKE, AND THE OPEN STREETS IS, YOU KNOW, NOT
09:58:12 NECESSARILY THE SAME DISCUSSION.
09:58:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
09:58:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU DIDN'T RECOGNIZE ME
09:58:21 BUT I'LL DEFER TO MR. GUDES.
09:58:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL TAKE YOU AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER
09:58:26 GUDES.
09:58:27 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, GO AHEAD.
09:58:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AGAIN.
09:58:31 I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WE WERE LOOKING AT NOT JUST
09:58:40 BAYSHORE.
09:58:41 I UNDERSTAND BAYSHORE HAS SOME CONCERNS.
09:58:43 BUT I THOUGHT THE ISSUE WAS THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
09:58:45 I REMEMBER MR. MIRANDA SAID THAT AS WELL THAT WE MAKE SURE
09:58:50 WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE CITY, THAT YOU DO HAVE THREE OTHER
09:58:54 DISTRICTS.
09:58:54 SO I'M HEARING BAYSHORE, BUT I THOUGHT THE WHOLE CITY AS A
09:59:01 WHOLE.
09:59:02 IF VIK CAN TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
09:59:04 >>VIK BHIDE: MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN CONFIRM THAT.
09:59:07 OUR APPROACH BE IT FOR STREET ACTIVATION, BE IT FOR SAFETY,
09:59:11 BE IT CITY-WIDE, AND WE LOOK AT WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES FROM
09:59:18 A CITY-WIDE PERSPECTIVE, AND TO THAT POINT, DURING THE
09:59:22 PREVIOUS WORKSHOP, WE PRESENTED SLIDES OF THE TOP 20
09:59:33 CORRIDOR LOCATIONS AND LOOK AT IT IN TERMS WHEREOF THE
09:59:36 OPERATORS ARE AND WHERE THE NEEDS ARE WITHIN THE CITY.
09:59:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION
09:59:49 IS FOR TODAY, BUT I'M HOPING AFTER HEARING ALL THE COMMENTS
09:59:52 FROM OUR COUNCIL THAT WE GET THE FACTS OF THE WHOLE CITY AND
09:59:57 THE BAYSHORE SITUATION.
10:00:00 AND IT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.
10:00:02 I JUST WANTED TO DEAL WITH IT MORE, AND I --
10:00:07 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING,
10:00:10 TOO, MAYBE AFTER MR. DINGFELDER.
10:00:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, HAVE YOU
10:00:16 FINISHED?
10:00:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES: I YIELD BACK, THANK YOU.
10:00:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW YOU HAD
10:00:22 REQUESTED TO SPEAK BEFORE.
10:00:23 GO AHEAD.
10:00:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:00:25 YOU ARE DOING FINE.
10:00:26 LISTEN, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:00:28 NUMBER ONE, MR. MIRANDA, WE ALL WANT FACTS, AND OBVIOUSLY
10:00:32 THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WILLY-NILLY UNTIL THEY
10:00:36 FULLY INVESTIGATE AND EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF A SIMPLE
10:00:42 SUNDAY, ONE SUNDAY A MONTH PROGRAM.
10:00:44 BUT WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
10:00:46 WE WANT FACTS AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE IMPACTS ARE.
10:00:50 BUT I DON'T THINK WE ARE VOTING ON ANYTHING TODAY.
10:00:52 COUNCIL HAD ALREADY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN DOING THIS AND
10:00:56 URGING THE ADMINISTRATION TO PURSUE IT.
10:00:59 AND THAT WAS DONE A FEW WEEKS AGO.
10:01:01 I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE VOTING TODAY.
10:01:04 MR. BHIDE, A COUPLE OTHER FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
10:01:07 I DON'T THINK THIS IS UNIQUE TO TAMPA.
10:01:09 I THINK WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND READ IS THAT THESE SORT OF
10:01:15 STREET ACTIVATIONS PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING ON NATIONALLY AND
10:01:18 INTERNATIONALLY, IF YOU COULD CONFIRM THAT, THAT WOULD BE
10:01:22 FINE.
10:01:23 ALSO, ANOTHER QUESTION.
10:01:25 LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE, HOW OFTEN DO WE SHUT DOWN
10:01:28 BAYSHORE FOR RACES, PARADES, ET CETERA, AT LEAST SOME OR A
10:01:38 LARGE PORTION OF BAYSHORE.
10:01:39 MY RECOLLECTION -- AND THIS GOES THROUGH COUNCIL EVERY
10:01:42 YEAR -- THAT WE SHUT IT DOWN AT LEAST, IT FEELS LIKE, AT
10:01:46 LEAST A HALF DOZEN TIMES A YEAR FOR VARIOUS REASONS, STUFF
10:01:49 LIKE THAT.
10:01:49 BUT THAT ISN'T REALLY NOVEL.
10:01:51 MR. BHIDE, IF YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT OR MS. DUNCAN.
10:01:55 AND THEN THE LAST POINT IS THE MAYOR HAS DECIDED, CONSISTENT
10:02:00 WITH THE REST OF HER COVID PROGRAM, THAT THIS IS NOT
10:02:05 SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE HEALTH
10:02:07 CONCERNS.
10:02:08 SO UNTIL WE GET BACK TO 100% LEVEL AND THE HEALTH EMERGENCY
10:02:15 IS, I GUESS, DEEMED OVER, WHICH I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE
10:02:18 WITH THE GOVERNOR AND THE PRESIDENT ON THAT, BUT UNTIL THOSE
10:02:25 HEALTH CONCERNS PASS, I DON'T THINK THE CITY IS DOING
10:02:27 ANYTHING.
10:02:28 SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
10:02:32 BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO RESEARCH AND PLAN FOR IT DOWN THE
10:02:35 ROAD.
10:02:36 THANK YOU.
10:02:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:02:40 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:02:42 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, IF I MAY GO AFTER THE LAST PERSON.
10:02:48 GO AHEAD.
10:02:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW.
10:02:50 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THEN COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:02:54 >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, I THINK THE
10:02:58 PUBLIC IS CONFUSED.
10:02:59 I THINK WE ARE EVEN CONFUSED, BECAUSE AFTER THE FOUR HOURS
10:03:03 OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, WE MADE TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS,
10:03:07 AND THIS ONE THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MADE IS A SPECIFIC
10:03:15 SOLUTION, AND THE OTHER MOTION WHICH I MADE, YOU ALL I THINK
10:03:21 UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO THEM TO PASS IT, BUT THE SECOND ONE
10:03:25 WAS TO ASK THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK TO US TO
10:03:29 PRESENT THEIR LARGER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BAYSHORE AND
10:03:32 SPEEDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:03:33 THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS REFERRING TO.
10:03:36 I THINK COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION WAS SPECIFICALLY JUST
10:03:39 ABOUT THIS ONE PIECE.
10:03:41 AND THE INTENT OF HAVING THAT BIG WORKSHOP WAS SO THAT THE
10:03:45 MOBILITY DEPARTMENT COULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND COME
10:03:47 BACK TO US WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:03:50 I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH VIK YESTERDAY AND THEY HAVE
10:03:53 GOT A CITY-WIDE MOBILITY STUDY GOING ON.
10:03:55 THEY HAVE GOT INTERLOCAL CONVERSATIONS GOING ON BECAUSE
10:04:00 BAYSHORE IS THE KIND OF ROAD, THE MAYOR HAS SIGNED ON THE
10:04:03 COMPLETE STREETS, AND OTHER PROGRAMS, THEN WE GOT THE
10:04:07 FUNDING ANALYSIS, IF ALL THE TRANSPORTATION DOESN'T COME
10:04:10 THROUGH, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?
10:04:12 SO ALL THESE DIFFERENT PIECES GOING ON.
10:04:14 I THINK THE THING THAT I SAID TO HIM YESTERDAY AND I WILL
10:04:19 SAY TO YOU ALL, I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN DEMANDING
10:04:22 ANSWERS AND THERE MAY BE A LOT GOING ON ALREADY, OR IT MAY
10:04:27 BE THAT CERTAIN DECISIONS WILL BE MADE DIRECTLY AS A RESULT
10:04:30 OF THAT WORKSHOP.
10:04:31 BUT AT SOME POINT, WE NEED CITY STAFF TO COME BACK AND TELL
10:04:35 US AT THE SAME TIME REALLY THEY ARE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC
10:04:39 ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING, OR WHAT DECISIONS THEY MADE AS A
10:04:43 RESULT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK.
10:04:45 AND WE PASSED THAT MOTION UNANIMOUSLY IN THE MOTION, I SAID
10:04:51 WE SHOULD BE LEAVE SCHEDULING UP TO THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
10:04:55 AND THE CHAIR.
10:04:56 HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I CAN DO IT NOW OR AT THE END,
10:05:00 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SPECIFICALLY SCHEDULE THAT
10:05:03 MAYBE SEPTEMBER 3rd, WHICH SHOULD GIVE EVERYBODY ENOUGH
10:05:06 TIME.
10:05:06 IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERFECT ANSWER FOR ALL OF THIS
10:05:09 BECAUSE IT'S AN ONGOING THING, AND WITH THE BUDGET CHANGING,
10:05:13 AND TRAFFIC CHANGING, AND POPULATION NUMBERS CHANGING, WE
10:05:17 HAVE GOT TO TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF TIME AND GIVE THE PUBLIC
10:05:20 INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE.
10:05:22 A LOT OF IMPORTANT AND POSITIVE THINGS ARE BEING MADE BUT
10:05:28 THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT YET.
10:05:29 SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE OTHER
10:05:32 MOTION FROM THAT MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK ABOUT
10:05:36 IT.
10:05:36 I HOPE AT THAT MEETING THAT ALSO THAT MAY BE TALK ABOUT MR.
10:05:42 DINGFELDER'S MOTION AS WELL, AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE A PART
10:05:45 OF IT.
10:05:46 PARALLEL TO THE TRANSPORTATION DISCUSSION, THERE ARE OTHER
10:05:49 DISCUSSIONS GOING ON ABOUT PARKS, BUT MAYBE THIS ISSUE CAN
10:05:53 BE ADDRESSED.
10:05:54 SO AT SOME POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION JUST TO
10:05:57 SCHEDULE THE MEETING THAT WE HAD ALREADY UNANIMOUSLY PASSED
10:05:59 TO RESCHEDULE.
10:06:00 BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC LISTENING, THERE'S A LOT -- LOT OF
10:06:04 CONFUSION BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC THINKS THIS CLOSING
10:06:07 SUNDAY IS A SOLUTION TO OUR SAFETY ON BAYSHORE AND IT'S NOT
10:06:09 AT ALL, IT'S JUST A SPECIFIC IDEA, BUT IT WASN'T A SAFETY
10:06:13 CONVERSATION.
10:06:14 AND ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC STILL WANT TO WEIGH
10:06:17 IN ON WHATEVER IS RECOMMENDED OR WHATEVER THE CITY IS
10:06:19 PLANNING.
10:06:20 AND SO TO RESCHEDULE THAT SECOND MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER
10:06:23 3rd, IT WILL NOT ONLY BE A CHANCE FOR MOBILITY
10:06:26 DEPARTMENT TO PRESENT BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE ROBUST
10:06:30 FEEDBACK, AND THEN AGAIN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT CAN TAKE
10:06:32 THAT AND USE IT OR NOT USE IT.
10:06:34 SO WE'VE YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO
10:06:37 SCHEDULE THAT.
10:06:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S HOLD THE MOTION UNTIL NEW
10:06:41 BUSINESS WHICH IS COMING UP SOON.
10:06:43 AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE MOTION THEN.
10:06:45 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
10:06:47 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:06:48 THANK YOU.
10:06:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:06:51 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:06:53 IT'S AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION AND I THANK COUNCILMAN
10:06:57 CARLSON AND DINGFELDER FOR YOUR TWO MOTIONS PREVIOUSLY ON
10:07:00 THIS AND FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
10:07:02 MY VOTE IN SUPPORTING THIS AS I INDICATED WHEN WE TOOK THE
10:07:05 VOTE ON THE ONCE-A-MONTH ISSUE WAS PREDICATED ON TWO ISSUES,
10:07:13 AND I THINK WHENEVER WE TAKE VOTES, WE NEVER HAVE -- I
10:07:17 SHOULDN'T SAY NEVER BUT WE OFTEN DON'T HAVE ALL THE
10:07:20 INFORMATION BEFORE US AND IT'S PREDICATED UPON THE
10:07:22 ADMINISTRATION AND THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITH THE
10:07:24 ADMINISTRATION DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, TO GIVE US
10:07:29 INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED, OR FURTHER FOUNDATIONS TO BE
10:07:32 FULFILLED.
10:07:34 NUMBER ONE, COMMUNITY DIALOGUE, AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THE
10:07:37 NUMEROUS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT COULD BE RELEVANT TO THIS
10:07:42 INQUIRING WITH POLICE, FIRE, ET CETERA, ON ANY ACTION THAT
10:07:46 COULD BE RELEVANT TO THIS AGAIN DEPENDING WITH REGARD TO
10:07:50 COMMUNITY.
10:07:56 SOME FOLKS SEE THIS AS A FOOT IN THE DOOR TO SOMETHING
10:07:58 LARGER AND I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT IT
10:08:01 IS WE ARE POTENTIALLY SUGGESTING OR WHAT IT IS WE ARE
10:08:04 POTENTIALLY NOT SUGGESTING DOING.
10:08:07 BUT IT'S CERTAINLY AN IDEA THAT I THINK IN FURTHER OF HAVING
10:08:13 FURTHER DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION ON, AND HAS GUIDED PRACTICAL
10:08:19 LOCATIONS NEAR BAYSHORE, AND AS INDICATED BEFORE, BY
10:08:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHO I BELIEVE BROUGHT THIS UP, THIS
10:08:25 ORIGINAL MOTION ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT INQUIRING WITH THREE
10:08:30 OTHER DIFFERENT DISTRICTS WITHOUT SPECIFYING AS I RECALL A
10:08:34 SPECIFIC LOCATION, AND TAKING A LOOK AT AREAS IN NORTH AND
10:08:37 NEW TAMPA, WITHIN EAST TAMPA AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS,
10:08:40 WITHIN WEST TAMPA AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, OF WHERE THIS
10:08:43 MAY OCCUR SO THAT EVERYBODY, ALL SECTIONS OF TAMPA CAN GET
10:08:47 THE BENEFIT OF THAT TYPE OF IDEA.
10:08:50 SO IT'S CERTAINLY AN IDEA THAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF GOING OWN
10:08:53 WITH FURTHER DIALOGUE.
10:08:54 I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PENDING THOSE FOUNDATIONS THAT I
10:09:00 THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MET, I THINK IT COULD BE SUCCESSFUL.
10:09:03 BUT AGAIN MORE DIALOGUE AND MORE CERTAINTY.
10:09:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:09:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:09 ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH ANY COMMENTS OR
10:09:12 QUESTIONS?
10:09:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
10:09:16 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:09:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:09:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY
10:09:23 REQUESTING THE MAYOR TO CONSIDER.
10:09:26 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING.
10:09:28 AS A RESIDENT WHO LIVED ON BAYSHORE, AND BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL,
10:09:35 I AM BEHIND THIS 100%.
10:09:36 BUT AS IN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S DISCUSSION, I HAVEN'T HAD ALL
10:09:42 THE FACTS YET.
10:09:43 IT HASN'T BEEN PRESENTED TO ME.
10:09:45 THE SOUTHBOUND LANES.
10:09:46 WILL THOSE BE TURNED INTO TWO-WAY STREETS?
10:09:49 WILL THE TRAFFIC BE ALLOWED TO GO NORTHBOUND ON THAT
10:09:52 SOUTHBOUND LANE?
10:09:53 IF THAT BE THE CASE, IN MY IMPRESSION, IT WOULD BE TOUGHER
10:09:58 TO CROSS THE STREET TO GET TO THE BIKING AND THE WALKABILITY
10:10:02 OF THE NORTHBOUND LANE THAT'S CLOSED.
10:10:05 I DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
10:10:07 I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE FOR THE
10:10:10 VISITORS THAT COME DOWN TO THE JEWEL OF TAMPA, BAYSHORE
10:10:15 BOULEVARD, TO EXERCISE, TO WALK, TO SPEND TIME WITH THEIR
10:10:19 FAMILY.
10:10:22 I HAVE LISTENED TO SOME PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN BAYSHORE
10:10:26 BEAUTIFUL THAT ARE CONCERNED.
10:10:28 I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE BATHROOMS ARE GOING TO BE.
10:10:32 WHERE WILL THEY GET WATER REFRESHMENT, THOSE TYPES OF
10:10:35 THINGS?
10:10:36 I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT I HAVE YET TO HEAR.
10:10:40 I WANT TO SEE THE TOPIC BUT I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY HOW
10:10:44 IT'S GOING TO BE DONE SO THAT MY NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE ALONG
10:10:48 BAYSHORE KNOW HOW EXACTLY IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
10:10:52 THE SECOND PART THROUGH ALL OF THIS, I HAVE HEARD CONCERNS
10:10:56 FROM CITIZENS AROUND THIS CITY AND SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICTS
10:11:01 WHO ARE ALSO COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF STREETS LIKE
10:11:06 SPRUCE, ARMENIA, HOWARD IN WEST TAMPA, 40th STREET IN
10:11:10 EAST TAMPA, BUSCH, HILLSBOROUGH, BRUCE B. DOWNS IN NORTH
10:11:14 TAMPA, AND THEN OTHER STREETS IN SOUTH TAMPA SUCH AS DALE
10:11:19 MABRY, BAY TO BAY, AND GANDY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:11:23 SO I HOPE THE OTHER PART OF DISCUSSIONS COMING UP WILL ALSO
10:11:26 TALK ABOUT SAFETY ON OTHER STREETS IN THE CITY.
10:11:32 NOT THIS MATTER ALONE.
10:11:33 I LIVE ON BAYSHORE.
10:11:34 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT OPENED UP ONE SUNDAY A MONTH.
10:11:37 BUT I NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND HOW
10:11:40 IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ME AND THE CITIZENS AROUND BAYSHORE.
10:11:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:11:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:47 ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH COMMENTS OR
10:11:49 QUESTIONS?
10:11:51 ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS DISCUSSION GOING, BECAUSE
10:11:57 1946, AND I SAY 1946 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE TOOK UP THE
10:12:01 STREETCAR, AND WE WENT TO THE BUS SERVICE, AND ASSIGN OF THE
10:12:04 TIMES POST WORLD WAR II WHERE THE FOCUS TURNED TO THE
10:12:07 BUILDING THE HIGHWAYS AND THE ROADS AND THE FREEDOM OF THE
10:12:10 AUTOMOBILE.
10:12:11 BUT SINCE THEN, AND WE ARE GOING OVER 70 YEARS, THE FOCUS
10:12:15 HAS BEEN ON THE CAR AND NOT THE PEOPLE.
10:12:17 AND WE ARE ONE OF THE WORST AREAS IN THE COUNTRY FOR
10:12:20 PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES.
10:12:21 AND I NOT JUST BAYSHORE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE DIED BUT IT'S
10:12:25 THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:12:27 AND WE HEARD THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN OVER THE YEARS.
10:12:29 WE HAVE TO BECOME MORE PEOPLE CENTERED INSTEAD OF CAR
10:12:33 CENTERED.
10:12:34 AND DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS AND THE DIALOGUE THAT WE HAVE, YOU
10:12:37 KNOW, WE ARE OPENING THAT DOOR BUT WE CAN'T LET THIS
10:12:40 CONVERSATION DIE AND WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING IT FORWARD
10:12:42 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE AND THEIR SAFETY.
10:12:46 AND I AM GLAD WE ARE HAVING THIS.
10:12:48 I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER BRINGING THIS UP,
10:12:51 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, AND ALL THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IN
10:12:55 VOICING THEIR OPINIONS.
10:12:56 AND OF COURSE WE NEED THE FACTS.
10:12:58 WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD HASTILY, BUT WE CAN'T NOT MOVE
10:13:03 FORWARD AT ALL, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY
10:13:06 DANGEROUS TOPIC BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DYING.
10:13:08 THIS IS LIFE AND DEATH.
10:13:10 HAVING SAID THAT, I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES THAT DISCUSSION
10:13:13 ON ITEM NUMBER 52.
10:13:15 IF WE COULD JUST GO BACK TO ITEM 54, I KNOW I BROUGHT IT UP
10:13:21 REGARDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION
10:13:24 TO BE POSTPONED.
10:13:25 CAN I HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT WE CAN RESCHEDULE THAT TO
10:13:28 A FUTURE DATE?
10:13:30 ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?
10:13:32 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST PICK A DATE, THOUGH, PLEASE?
10:13:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW.
10:13:39 WE MENTIONED SEPTEMBER WHICH IS FURTHER OUT.
10:13:40 WE HAVE ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER
10:13:43 WHICH I AM GOING TO BRING UP CEREMONIAL AND WHATNOT.
10:13:46 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TO DO IN THE JUNE AND
10:13:49 JULY BECAUSE WE ARE BACKED UP ON LAND USE HEARINGS BUT
10:13:52 MAYBE --
10:13:53 >>> YES, LET'S SAY SEPTEMBER 3rd AT 9:00 A.M.
10:13:58 THAT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY.
10:13:59 AND IF WE HAVE TO POSTPONE IT THEN, WE'LL LOOK AT IT THEN.
10:14:02 HOPEFULLY THINGS GET BACK TO A REGULAR SCHEDULE BY THEN.
10:14:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE TO THE SEPTEMBER
10:14:11 3rd.
10:14:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:14:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO, SECOND.
10:14:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:14:18 IF YOU WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE OR HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT
10:14:21 UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION TO IT.
10:14:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- MOTION.
10:14:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO RESCHEDULE THE PLANNING COMMISSION
10:14:34 FOR A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION FOR SEPTEMBER 3rd, 9:00
10:14:38 A.M.
10:14:43 DID YOU GET THAT?
10:14:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:14:46 NO OBJECTION.
10:14:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:14:52 AND WE DID HAVE A SECOND. WHO WAS THE SECOND ON THAT?
10:14:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.
10:14:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:14:59 CARLSON.
10:15:00 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO. ROLL CALL ON THAT.
10:15:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:15:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:15:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:15:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:15:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:15:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:15:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:15:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:15:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.
10:15:36 WE GO TO INFORMATION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:15:41 I AM GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE, AND THEN I AM GOING TO
10:15:44 ASK -- I'M SORRY, COUNCIL ATTORNEY SHELBY HAS ANY COMMENTS
10:15:48 OR QUESTIONS.
10:15:53 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
10:15:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:16:00 MR. CARLSON, WHEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION IN REGARDS TO THE NEXT
10:16:05 PRESENTATION FROM THE STAFF ON THIS ISSUE, I THINK YOU SAID
10:16:09 SOMETHING ABOUT SEPTEMBER.
10:16:12 I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU ALSO -- THAT COUNCIL REQUEST THE
10:16:17 APPEARANCE OF THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE FROM MacDILL,
10:16:24 SOMEBODY OUT THERE, PERHAPS SOMEBODY WITH RELATIONS TO
10:16:29 TRAFFIC, AND ALSO THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY IN REGARDS ALSO
10:16:34 TO POSSIBLE USE OF THE EXPRESSWAY, INCREASED USE OF THE
10:16:40 EXPRESSWAY.
10:16:40 I KNOW THEY HAVE A PROGRAM THAT THEY ARE STARTING UP, AND I
10:16:43 THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE TOTAL DISCUSSION, IN
10:16:49 SOUTH TAMPA.
10:16:50 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:16:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:16:54 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
10:16:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO THINGS TO BE AWARE OF.
10:17:06 I E-MAILED THE MAYOR THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK.
10:17:09 AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY
10:17:19 THAT ARE OCCURRING, AND THE OFFICIALS MET OVER THE WEEKEND,
10:17:29 MET WITH THE MAYOR FRIDAY AT 1 P.M. AND I WANTED COUNCIL TO
10:17:33 BE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE WE MAY COME BACK TO ASK FOR THINGS
10:17:37 FROM COUNCIL.
10:17:38 BUT I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED.
10:17:39 YOU KNOW, THE MEDIA COVERAGE, I WAS AT THE SHOOTING ON
10:17:46 7th AVENUE AND NEBRASKA, WHEN A YOUNG MAN WAS SHOT, GOT
10:17:51 NO COVERAGE ON IT.
10:17:52 IT JUST BOTHERED ME VERY BADLY ALL WEEK LONG.
10:17:56 YOU KNOW, A DEATH IS A DEATH.
10:17:58 A MOTHER LOST A CHILD, FATHER LOST A CHILD.
10:18:02 SO I WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE WE HAVE IT GOING ON AND ANY
10:18:06 SUGGESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR THOUGHTS, LET US KNOW.
10:18:11 I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE JUST CAN'T FOLLOW -- YOUNG
10:18:17 PEOPLE JUST RANDOMLY SHOOTING PEOPLE.
10:18:20 WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:18:22 NUMBER TWO, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER 12.
10:18:30 MR. BAIRD, I HOPE HE'S STILL LISTENING.
10:18:33 I WON'T MAKE THE MOTION TODAY BUT I AM HOPING STAFF WILL
10:18:36 UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE MONITORING THIS PROGRAM, MAKE SURE WHO
10:18:45 PEOPLE ARE ON THE JOB, BY TAKING PHOTOS, BY MAKING SURE WE
10:18:51 HAVE A FILE THAT'S CREATED THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE VERIFIED
10:18:54 WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHO IS ON THE JOB SITE.
10:18:57 I WON'T MAKE THE MOTION TODAY, BUT I WILL TALK WITH
10:19:03 MR. BAIRD ABOUT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE ARE ACTUALLY VERIFYING
10:19:06 THIS POT OF MONEY AND PEOPLE ON THESE JOBS, BECAUSE THERE'S
10:19:10 ALWAYS A WAY OF -- HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS GETTING AN
10:19:16 OPPORTUNITY.
10:19:17 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:19:18 I YIELD BACK.
10:19:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:19 NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:19:21 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
10:19:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
10:19:27 TAKING MYSELF OFF OF SPEAKER THERE.
10:19:29 JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:19:30 TWO THINGS.
10:19:34 ONE OF THEM, MANY OF US KNOW KAREN CLAIRA CLAY AND HER SON
10:19:41 PHILIP.
10:19:42 KAREN IS A FIRST ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND
10:19:45 JUST ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE I KNOW.
10:19:47 I CONSIDER HER NOT ONLY A GOOD FRIEND BUT FRANKLY ONE OF MY
10:19:52 PERSONAL HEROES.
10:19:53 KAREN IS BLESSED OR HAS BEEN BLESSED WITH TWO SONS, AND NOT
10:19:57 LONG AGO HER SON MIKE, WHO MANY OF US KNEW, MIKE PHILLIPS,
10:20:01 PASSED ON VERY TRAGICALLY.
10:20:03 MIKE WAS A POWERFUL VOICE FOR ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, AND FOR
10:20:06 THOSE WITH DISABILITIES, WHETHER IT'S INTELLECTUAL
10:20:09 DISABILITIES OR FOLKS LIKE HIM WHO HAD SIGNIFICANT PHYSICAL
10:20:12 DISABILITY.
10:20:13 MIKE WAS A HERO, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
10:20:16 AND HIS FIGHT FOR RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR PEOPLE WITH
10:20:21 DISABILITIES TOOK HIM ON A NATIONAL SCALE AND EARNED I AM
10:20:23 THE RESPECT OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
10:20:26 WEIGHS A NATIONAL VOICE AND WE OUGHT TO BE PROUD THAT THAT
10:20:29 NATIONAL VOICE CAME RIGHT HERE FROM TAMPA.
10:20:31 WE SHOULD DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO HONOR THE LEGACY OF THIS
10:20:36 SPECIAL, SPECIAL MAN.
10:20:38 AGAIN, HE WAS A NATIONAL VOICE WITH NATIONALLY EXPECTED AND
10:20:41 CAME RIGHT HERE FROM TAMPA.
10:20:43 THAT PATH THAT HE TOOK WAS AMAZING AND WE SHOULD BE HONORING
10:20:47 HIM.
10:20:47 WE SHOULD BE HONORING HIM AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
10:20:51 WE SHOULD BE PROUD AS A CITY THAT MIKE WAS ONE OF OURS, THAT
10:20:54 HE WAS FROM TAMPA.
10:20:56 I KNOW THAT MIKE'S MOTHER AND BROTHER ARE LISTENING, BRYAN
10:21:01 ARE LISTENING RIGHT NOW, AND I KNOW THEY MISS MIKE AND WE
10:21:04 MISS HIM, TOO, AND WE HONOR HIM.
10:21:06 THAT'S WHY TODAY I MOTION FOR CITY STAFF TO REPORT ON NAMING
10:21:11 A CITY STREET AFTER MICHAEL PHILLIPS, A WELL KNOWN LOCAL
10:21:14 ADVOCATE FOR ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE AND FOR THOSE WITH
10:21:17 DISABILITIES.
10:21:18 AND I REQUEST THAT THIS REPORT BE BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL, IF
10:21:23 IT'S AMENABLE WITH THE CHAIR, ON SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2020.
10:21:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO, SECOND.
10:21:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO SECOND THAT?
10:21:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO SECOND.
10:21:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:21:36 VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
10:21:40 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:21:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:21:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:21:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:21:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:21:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:22:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:22:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:22:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:22:08 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
10:22:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:22:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:22:19 AGAIN, THAT MEMORIAL DAY IS COMING UP ON MONDAY THE
10:22:23 25th.
10:22:24 I BELIEVE IT IS.
10:22:25 AND JUST FOR EVERYONE TO DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HONOR THE FALLEN
10:22:28 AND THE FAMILIES OF THE FALLEN.
10:22:31 AND AGAIN TOMORROW AT 3 P.M., WE WILL BE DOING A MEMORIAL
10:22:34 DAY TOWN HALL DISCUSSION WITH GOLD STAR FAMILIES, WE WILL BE
10:22:40 HAVING COLONEL VJ.
10:22:45 WE WILL HAVE GOLD STAR PARENTS AND THE MOTHER OF PAUL
10:22:50 KADUTTI WHO WAS KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN.
10:22:54 CRAIG ROSE, HE SPOKE TO YOU LAST MEMORIAL DAY.
10:22:57 CRAIG IS A GREAT MAN, AND HE AND HIS WIFE ARE THE PROUD
10:23:03 PARENTS OF FRANK GROSS, KELLY COLDWALL, THE MOTHER OF CORY
10:23:10 COLDWELL, AND THEIR LATE SON, STAFF SERGEANT ROBERT MULLER
10:23:19 FOLLOWING HIS DEATH, RECEIVED THE MEDAL OF HONOR, ONE OF
10:23:22 ABOUT 3500 AMERICANS TO RECEIVE THAT HONOR.
10:23:25 THEY WILL BE HERE AS WELL ON FRIDAY FOR THE TOWN HALL.
10:23:30 AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PLEASE, IF YOU WISH
10:23:34 TO BE ABLE TO LOG IN TO E-MAIL ME AT LUIS.IS V VIERA AT
10:23:40 TAMPA GOV DO IT NET TO LISTEN TO THE LIVES OF THESE MORE
10:23:47 FAMILIES.
10:23:47 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:23:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:23:50 NEXT UP COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
10:23:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:23:54 FIRST OFF I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS OFFICE'S
10:24:00 INTERN, CATALINA KASINKO WHO WAS OUR INTERN FROM USF, I HAVE
10:24:11 PRESENTED HER WITH A COMMENDATION.
10:24:13 SO IF I COULD GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION I WOULD REALLY
10:24:15 APPRECIATE THAT.
10:24:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:24:20 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
10:24:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:24:23 CARLSON.
10:24:24 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:24:24 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:24:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:24:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:24:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:24:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:24:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:24:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:24:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:24:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHE DID A WONDERFUL JOB AND IT WAS A
10:25:00 PLEASURE TO HAVE HER AROUND AS OUR INTERNS ALWAYS DO COMING
10:25:03 FROM USF.
10:25:05 SO I THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THAT.
10:25:09 ALSO, IF WE COULD CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF MASTER BENJAMIN
10:25:15 PARKER, WHO IS THE CHILD OF FIRST-TIME PARENTS OF OFFICERS
10:25:25 COLLIN AND JACKIE PARKER OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DISTRICT
10:25:30 2.
10:25:32 CONGRATULATIONS.
10:25:32 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER HEARD OF ACTIVE DUTY
10:25:36 POLICE OFFICERS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVING A CHILD.
10:25:39 I'M SURE IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE.
10:25:41 BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM.
10:25:43 BENJAMIN WAS BORN.
10:25:44 HE WEIGHED 6 POUNDS 9-OUNCES AND MEASURED A WHOPPING 19
10:25:49 INCHES AND -- 19.5 INCHES LONG.
10:25:54 SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THESE TWO PROUD TPD OFFICERS.
10:25:58 NOTHING FURTHER, MR. CHAIR.
10:25:59 THANK YOU.
10:26:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:03 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:26:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NEW BUSINESS, SIR.
10:26:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:13 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?
10:26:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
10:26:18 THANK YOU.
10:26:19 SO JUST FOR ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING RELATED TO BAYSHORE
10:26:22 RIGHT NOW, SORRY TO BELABOR THIS, BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY
10:26:27 KNOWS, THE PROPOSAL TO CLOSE ONCE A MONTH WAS NOT THE
10:26:31 SOLUTION FOR SAFETY ON BAYSHORE AND IT WAS NOT THE SOLUTION
10:26:34 FOR SPEEDING THROUGHOUT.
10:26:35 IT WAS A SEPARATE IDEA.
10:26:37 AND THAT WE MAY BE LOOKING AT BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME
10:26:43 WHEN WE SCHEDULE THIS.
10:26:44 BUT I MADE A MOTION ON APRIL 30th WHICH YOU ALL
10:26:47 UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED, AND THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY STAFF BE
10:26:51 REQUESTED TO REVIEW THE PUBLIC INPUT DURING THE CITY COUNCIL
10:26:54 SPECIAL CALL MEETING, FURTHER THAT CITY STAFF PRESENT AND
10:26:58 REPORT TO COUNCIL ON A DATE TO BE DETERMINED REGARDING THE
10:27:01 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEMS ON BAYSHORE AND
10:27:03 SPEEDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:27:05 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY THAT IS TO REQUEST
10:27:10 STAFF RETURN TO COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2020 IN
10:27:14 CONJUNCTION WITH THE APRIL 30th, 2020 MOTION.
10:27:18 THE STAFF WILL PRESENT THEIR REPORT AFTER REVIEWING THE
10:27:21 PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE MEETING WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS
10:27:24 FOR FIXING THE PROBLEMS ON BAYSHORE AND SPEEDING THROUGHOUT
10:27:26 THE CITY.
10:27:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:27:28 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:27:31 DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?
10:27:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER SECOND IT AND WITH A FRIENDLY
10:27:38 AMENDMENT TO, MR. CHAIRMAN, REQUEST THE APPEARANCE OF THE
10:27:46 MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND THE APPROPRIATE PERSONNEL
10:27:50 FROM MacDILL AND THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY SO WE CAN GET
10:27:55 THEIR COMMENTS AND INPUT ON THIS AS WELL.
10:27:59 A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OFFERED.
10:28:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER
10:28:05 CARLSON?
10:28:06 IS THAT FINE?
10:28:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:28:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:28:10 CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
10:28:13 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:28:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:28:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:28:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:28:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:28:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:28:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
10:28:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:28:37 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:28:39 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL.
10:28:42 MR. CHAIR, ONE MORE.
10:28:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:28:45 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS IN RELATION TO ONE OF THE CONSENT
10:28:48 AGENDA ITEMS TODAY AND WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT
10:28:50 WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BUT IT WAS A REQUEST FOR I THINK
10:28:54 11,000 OR $12,000 FOR A MANUFACTURING COMPANY THAT WAS
10:28:57 LOOKING TO ADD EMPLOYEES AND MAKE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN
10:29:01 OUR COMMUNITY.
10:29:03 BUT IF YOU READ THE NOTES, WHAT IT SAYS IN THE NOTES IS THAT
10:29:09 IT'S REALLY -- I CAN'T HEAR, SOMEBODY ON MUTE.
10:29:15 SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ECHO.
10:29:16 OKAY.
10:29:20 THE ISSUE IS THAT IF YOU READ THE NOTES, IT SAYS THAT ALL WE
10:29:25 DID IS APPROVED FOR THEM TO APPLY FOR THE QTI PROGRAM.
10:29:29 THAT'S ONE THE STATE OF FLORIDA ISSUES FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF
10:29:33 TRAINING WITH THE IDEA BEING THAT IF THE STATE INVESTS IN
10:29:36 TRAINING INSTEAD OF GIVING MONEY TO COMPANIES THAT AT LEAST
10:29:39 EMPLOYEES WILL STAY WITH THE COMPANY, BUT IF YOU READ THE
10:29:42 NOTES IT ALSO SAYS THAT QTI IS CANCELED, AND THAT I DID SOME
10:29:47 RESEARCH ON THIS, AND IT WAS CANCELED BY THE LEGISLATURE,
10:29:53 AND TRYING TO PUSH TO BRING IT BACK.
10:29:54 BUT IF YOU READ THE REPORTS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE
10:29:58 GET, WHEN THE CITY OR COUNTY GIVE INCENTIVE TO COMPANIES,
10:30:06 THE ONLY VERIFICATION THAT WE GET AS TO WHETHER THE
10:30:10 COMPANIES MET THE PROMISES THAT THEY MADE IS FROM THE QTI
10:30:14 INFORMATION THAT GOES IN.
10:30:16 SO I ABOUT 30% OF THE COMPANIES THAT GET INCENTIVES GET QTI
10:30:21 MONEY AND THEY ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO SUBMIT THEIR
10:30:24 NUMBERS.
10:30:24 AND SO WE CAN VALIDATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HIRED THE PEOPLE,
10:30:27 WHETHER THEY SPENT THE MONEY ON TRAINING, WHAT THE AVERAGE
10:30:31 WAGE WAS AND WHAT THE AVERAGE EXPENDITURE WAS.
10:30:35 AND WITH THE OTHER 70% I HAVE WE HAVE NO IDEA.
10:30:38 I TALKED TO CAROLE POST ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
10:30:40 AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ASK YOU ALL, I WILL MAKE THE
10:30:44 MOTION IN A SECOND, BUT I ASK YOU ALL TO APPROVE ALLOWING
10:30:47 STAFF TO RESEARCH THIS IDEA AND BRING IT BACK A PROPOSED
10:30:52 ORDINANCE, AND BY THAT TIME YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU LIKE
10:30:55 THE ORDINANCE OR NOT.
10:30:56 BUT THE IDEA THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO GET TENS OF THOUSANDS
10:31:00 OR MAYBE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO
10:31:02 MOVE HERE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER THEY DID WHAT THEY SAID
10:31:05 THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
10:31:07 AND IDEALLY, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO MS. POST, IDEALLY WE
10:31:11 TALKED TO THE COUNTY IN THE INTERIM ALSO AND ASKED THE
10:31:14 COUNTY TO MAYBE JOIN IN WITH SIMILAR ORDINANCE.
10:31:19 AND THE IDEA IS THAT ONE OF THE PIECES OF ECONOMIC
10:31:22 DEVELOPMENT, SOME OF THESE COMPANIES WON'T COME IF WE MAKE
10:31:24 THEM DISCLOSE THE NUMBERS.
10:31:26 AND MS. POST AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.
10:31:30 I THINK SHE AGREES WITH ME THAT IF A COMPANY DOESN'T WANT TO
10:31:33 DISCLOSE THEIR NUMBERS, WE SHOULDN'T GIVE THEM MONEY.
10:31:37 AND THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD BE GIVING
10:31:39 MONEY TO COMPANIES ANYWHERE OR HELPING TO BUILD OUR OWN
10:31:43 COMPANIES HERE.
10:31:43 BUT AT THE VERY LEAST I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME VALID
10:31:46 FOUNDATION.
10:31:47 SO HERE IS MY MOTION.
10:31:48 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY LEGAL STAFF RESEARCH
10:31:51 AND CREATE A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR REVIEW BY CITY COUNCIL ON
10:31:54 AUGUST 6, 2020, THE ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THAT COMPANIES
10:31:57 RECEIVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES OR TAX DEDUCTIONS
10:32:01 FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA SUBMIT SWORN AFFIDAVITS AT LEAST
10:32:05 ANNUALLY TO AFFIRM THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, THE AVERAGE PAY
10:32:08 OF THOSE EMPLOYEES, AND THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT
10:32:10 MADE THAT YEAR AS PROMISED IN EXCHANGE FOR THE INCENTIVES
10:32:14 OFFERED.
10:32:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER, SECOND.
10:32:18 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS MORRIS MASSEY OF THE CITY
10:32:23 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:32:24 I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM, A STATE
10:32:27 PROGRAM THAT'S STATUTORY DRIVEN BY THE LEGISLATURE.
10:32:30 SO WE ARE HAPPY TO RESEARCH THE ISSUE.
10:32:37 WHETHER WE ARE PREEMPTED, HOW MUCH WE CAN REGULATE THAT
10:32:40 AREA.
10:32:40 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE -- BEFORE WE BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE,
10:32:44 WE HAVE TO RESEARCH FIRST.
10:32:45 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S FINE.
10:32:50 THIS IS NOT ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT QTI BECAUSE QTI IS
10:32:55 GONE RIGHT NOW.
10:32:56 ALL THIS IS ASKING IS THAT ANY COMPANY WE GIVE INCENTIVES TO
10:33:00 THAT WE REQUIRE THEM IN EXCHANGE FOR THE INCENTIVES TO AT
10:33:02 LEAST PROVIDE A SWORN AFFIDAVIT THAT SAYS THAT THEY DID
10:33:07 FULFILL OAR DIDN'T FULFILL THEIR REQUIREMENTS OF THE
10:33:09 INCENTIVE.
10:33:10 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THIS IS ANDREA ZELMAN.
10:33:17 I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, MR. CARLSON, IF YOU COULD MODIFY
10:33:20 YOUR MOTION.
10:33:22 YOU ARE ASKING US TO INVESTIGATE THE FEASIBILITY AND PRESENT
10:33:29 A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
10:33:30 I THINK THE FIRST PART NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST.
10:33:33 BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DETERMINE IS WHETHER
10:33:36 IT'S EVEN APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY, THE LEGISLATION.
10:33:42 YOU NEED TO BE CLEAR ON WHO IT IS THAT MAY BE PROVIDING TO
10:33:47 COMPANIES IN TAMPA AND WHETHER THE CITY IS EVEN PROVIDING
10:33:54 MONEY.
10:33:56 PERHAPS WE CAN LEGISLATE IN THAT AREA.
10:33:58 BUT IF IT'S OTHER ENTITIES PROVIDING INCENTIVES --
10:34:02 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS ONLY FOR CITY INCENTIVES.
10:34:05 IF THE COUNTY WANTED TO CREATE A SIMILAR ORDINANCE, THEY
10:34:08 COULD DO THAT AS WELL.
10:34:10 THIS IS IN NO WAY WOULD HAVE ANY IMPACT ON STATE INCENTIVES
10:34:13 AND THE QTI PROGRAM I MENTIONED RIGHT NOW IS GONE SO IT
10:34:17 WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT ON THAT ANYWAY. THIS IS ONLY FOR
10:34:19 INCENTIVES PROVIDED BY THE CITY.
10:34:21 SO IF THE CITY SAYS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS YOU GET ZERO
10:34:24 PROPERTY TAXES, AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT WE EXPECT YOU, YOU
10:34:28 ARE PROMISING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BRING 100 JOBS WITH AN
10:34:31 AVERAGE PAY OF WHATEVER YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A CAPITAL
10:34:34 INVESTMENT.
10:34:35 THERE IS NO WAY TO VALIDATE WHETHER THEY HAVE DONE THAT OR
10:34:38 NOT.
10:34:38 ALL WE CAN DO IS SAY WHEN THEY FIRST SIGNED UP THAT THEY
10:34:41 PROMISED TO DO IT.
10:34:42 ALL THIS DOES IS IT ASKS THEM TO ONCE A YEAR PUT IN WRITING
10:34:45 WHETHER THEY HAVE DONE THAT OR NOT.
10:34:49 AND ONLY FOR CITY INCENTIVES.
10:34:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:34:52 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WITH A SECOND
10:34:55 BY COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
10:34:56 ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION.
10:34:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN?
10:35:04 BEFORE THE VOTE, MR. CARLSON, JUST IN REGARD TO STAFF
10:35:09 EFFORTS -- AND I KNOW LEGAL STAFF HAS BEEN VERY OVERBURDENED
10:35:15 THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS -- I DO AGREE WITH MS. ZELMAN IF
10:35:20 WE SHOULD GET A REPORT BACK FROM THEM BEFORE WE ASK THEM TO
10:35:24 DRAFT AN ORDINANCE, BECAUSE DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE TAKES
10:35:28 ADDITIONAL TIME AND EFFORT.
10:35:31 BUT, BILL, I LIKE THE DIRECTION YOU ARE HEADED AND I THINK
10:35:34 IT'S AN IMPORTANT MATTER.
10:35:36 BUT I GUESS I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO MODIFY THE MOTION TO
10:35:40 MAKE IT A TWO-PART MOTION, AND AFTER THEY GIVE THE STAFF
10:35:43 REPORT, THEN WE CAN DECIDE IF WE WANT TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE.
10:35:47 BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU.
10:35:48 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THIS IS ANDREA ZELMAN.
10:35:51 THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
10:35:52 THAT WAS STATED MORE CLEARLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
10:35:57 WE NEED TO RESEARCH IT.
10:35:58 AND IT MAY HELP THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY SHOULD GO RATHER
10:36:02 THAN GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND TRYING TO DRAFT AN
10:36:04 ORDINANCE BEFORE WE ANALYZE THE IMPACT AND THE APPROPRIATE
10:36:12 PATH.
10:36:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:36:14 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, ANY RESPONSE, COMMENTS, CHANGES?
10:36:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:36:19 MS. ZELMAN, THE WAY THE MOTION IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW SAYS
10:36:21 THAT LEGAL STAFF RESEARCH AND CREATE A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
10:36:25 IF IN THE RESEARCH YOU FIND IT'S NOT REASONABLE OR
10:36:27 PREEMPTED, JUST SHUT IT DOWN AUTOMATICALLY?
10:36:33 THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH, WE COULD EXPLICITLY
10:36:35 STATE IN THE THAT MOTION?
10:36:37 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO WORD IT THAT WAY,
10:36:40 THAT WE RESEARCH THE FEASIBILITY OF CREATING SUCH AN
10:36:45 ORDINANCE, AND GET THE APPROPRIATE DRAFT IN AN ORDINANCE.
10:36:50 BUT I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT PART IS RESEARCH THE
10:36:55 FEASIBILITY OF THE EXISTING OBLIGATIONS -- I LIKE THE
10:37:07 TWO-PART APPROACH TO THIS.
10:37:10 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
10:37:12 SO IF I MODIFY IT.
10:37:14 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY LEGAL STAFF RESEARCH
10:37:17 THE FEASIBILITY OF AN ORDINANCE, AND IF ALLOWED, CREATE A
10:37:20 DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR REVIEW BY CITY COUNCIL AUGUST 6, 2020,
10:37:24 THE ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THAT COMPANIES RECEIVING
10:37:26 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES OR TAX DEDUCTIONS FROM THE
10:37:29 CITY OF TAMPA SUBMITS SWORN AFFIDAVITS AT LEAST ANNUALLY TO
10:37:33 AFFIRM THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, THE AVERAGE PAY OF THOSE
10:37:36 EMPLOYEES, AND THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT MADE IN THAT
10:37:38 YEAR AS PROMISED IN EXCHANGE FOR THE INCENTIVES OFFERS.
10:37:42 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AND IF I MAY, MR. CARLSON, THIS IS ANDREA
10:37:46 ZELMAN REQUEST BETWEEN AGAIN, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS
10:37:50 IF IT'S LEGALLY APPROPRIATE.
10:37:52 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
10:37:53 I'LL CHANGE THAT.
10:37:54 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANKS.
10:37:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:37:59 DOES THE SECOND STAND?
10:38:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
10:38:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:38:05 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:38:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:38:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:38:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:38:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:38:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:38:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:38:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:38:33 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:38:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
10:38:39 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, THANK YOU.
10:38:41 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
10:38:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON A FINAL NOTE, WE HAVE SOME
10:38:43 CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES FOR JUNE 4 AND JUNE 18.
10:38:47 I SENT OUT A MEMO YESTERDAY THAT WE RESCHEDULE AND POSTPONE
10:38:50 THE CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE GOING TO BE
10:38:53 MEETING LIVE AND IN PERSON AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, JUST
10:38:56 FOR EVERYONE'S SAFETY, TO PUSH THOSE CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES
10:39:01 TO A LATER DATE.
10:39:02 NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO BE JULY WHEN WE WILL BE READY TO
10:39:06 COME BACK TO OLD CITY HALL.
10:39:08 IF I COULD HAVE SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO --
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10:39:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:39:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:39:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:39:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:39:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:39:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:40:02 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
10:40:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:40:06 THAT'S IT FOR ME.
10:40:06 MR. SHELBY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR ANY
10:40:09 COMMENTS?
10:40:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:40:12 THANK YOU FOR HANDLING THE MATTERS FOR THE 4th AND THE
10:40:15 18th.
10:40:16 THAT WAS A SCHEDULING MATTER.
10:40:17 JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, ACCORDING TO YOUR CALENDAR, THIS
10:40:22 IS THE LAST REGULAR VIRTUAL MEETING THAT YOU WILL BE HAVING.
10:40:25 NEXT WEEK, A REMINDER, YOU WILL BE HAVING A SPECIAL CALL
10:40:31 VIRTUAL WORKSHOP SESSION FOR THE DEPARTMENTAL BRIEFING BY
10:40:35 THE ADMINISTRATION FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO HOURS.
10:40:37 SO YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE IN PERSON ON JUNE
10:40:41 4th AT 9:00 A.M. AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, 333
10:40:46 SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET.
10:40:47 AND I BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU DID SEND OUT A MEMO TO CITY
10:40:50 COUNCIL RECENTLY RELATIVE TO THE JUNE IN-PERSON CITY COUNCIL
10:40:55 MEETINGS FOR THEIR REVIEW.
10:40:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I DID.
10:40:58 I SENT THE MEMO OUT LAST NIGHT WITH DETAILS FOR EVERYONE TO
10:41:04 LOOK AT.
10:41:04 OF COURSE IT'S PUBLIC RECORD FOR ANYONE TO SEE.
10:41:08 AND THAT'S IT.
10:41:09 UNLESS THERE'S ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
10:41:11 IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE --
10:41:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
10:41:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:41:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING
10:41:20 ON THIS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:41:22 WILL THERE BE PARKING FOR COUNCIL IN A SPECIAL LOCATION
10:41:25 WHILE WE ARE THERE?
10:41:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ANSWER IS YES, AND THAT IS ADDRESSED
10:41:31 IN THE CHAIRMAN'S MEMO.
10:41:32 AND IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT,
10:41:38 FEEL FREE TO COMMUNICATE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:41:40 WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO COMMUNICATE THAT THROUGH ME OR
10:41:44 THROUGH YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDE?
10:41:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EITHER OR, WHATEVER THEY ARE MORE
10:41:50 COMFORTABLE WITH.
10:41:50 WE DRAFTED THE MEMO TO PROVIDE ALL DETAILS, YOU KNOW,
10:41:55 PARKING, PARKING PLACARDS, WHERE TO PARK, WHAT EXITS TO USE.
10:41:59 BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT LISA, MY
10:42:02 LEGISLATIVE AIDE, OR MR. SHELBY.
10:42:04 WE ALL HAVE THE INFORMATION.
10:42:06 SO WHATEVER IS MOST COMFORTABLE.
10:42:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION TO
10:42:14 RECEIVE AND FILE, MS. ZELMAN.
10:42:19 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: VERY QUICKLY ON THE TAMPA CONVENTION
10:42:21 CENTER MEETING FOR THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE
10:42:24 LISTENING, BECAUSE WE HAVE LAND USE APPLICANTS WHO WILL BE
10:42:30 SENDING NOTICES OUT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
10:42:34 THE MEETING, QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETINGS IN JUNE AND JULY,
10:42:44 SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE -- (AUDIO BREAK-UP).
10:42:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:42:52 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:52 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS?
10:42:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA, MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL
10:43:00 DOCUMENTS TODAY.
10:43:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
10:43:04 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:43:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:43:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:43:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:43:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:43:20 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:43:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:43:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
10:43:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT.
10:43:34 THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING.
10:43:35 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
10:43:36 THANK YOU.
10:43:37 (MEETING ADJOURNED)
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