TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JUNE 11, 2020
6:00 P.M. SESSION
TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER
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18:01:20 [NO AUDIO]
18:01:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN, MR. MASSEY?
18:01:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:01:32 MORRIS MASSEY, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
18:01:35 I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO WALK ON AN ITEM.
18:01:38 THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
18:01:40 HEALTH TRUST THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO A
18:01:43 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAD THIS YEAR
18:01:46 WITH THE PBA AND WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION.
18:01:49 THIS ALLOWS FOR US TO TRANSFER INFORMATION TO THIS HEALTH
18:01:52 PLAN THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED IN COMPLIANCE WITH HIPAA
18:01:55 LAWS.
18:01:56 I DO HAVE FOLKS FROM HUMAN RESOURCES IF YOU HAVE
18:01:58 QUESTIONS.
18:01:59 KELLY AUSTIN. BUT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE AGREEMENT,
18:02:04 AND THE DEADLINE FOR GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO THEM IS
18:02:06 FAST APPROACHING, SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE WALK-ON
18:02:09 TONIGHT.
18:02:10 THANK YOU.
18:02:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:02:12 DO WE HAVE KELLY AUSTIN HERE TO PRESENT?
18:02:15 OR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
18:02:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT?
18:02:25 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
18:02:26 THE DOCUMENT WITH A BLUE COVER PAGE WAS PUT ON YOUR DESK
18:02:28 AND THE CLERK HAS THOSE, HAS TWO COPIES OF IT AS WELL.
18:02:34 IT SHOULD BE ON YOUR DESK, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:02:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF STUFF ON MY
18:02:43 DESK.
18:02:43 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF THE
18:02:48 INFORMATION WITH THE HEALTH PLAN TO BE SET UP IN
18:02:51 COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE HIPAA LAWS.
18:03:07 IT DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY MONEY.
18:03:08 IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF INFORMATION.
18:03:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:03:14 UNLESS STAFF HAS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL, IS IT SAFE TO
18:03:18 ASSUME -- I SAW MEMBERS OF THE UNION HERE.
18:03:21 IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS
18:03:24 DOCUMENT?
18:03:25 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I CAN LET THEM SPEAK, BUT I BELIEVE
18:03:29 THEY ARE.
18:03:29 THEY HELPED US GET THIS ON AS A WALK-ON.
18:03:32 >> JAMES OWENS, TAMPA POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION, THE
18:03:38 CHAIRPERSON OF THE HEALTH CARE TRUST, AND WE ARE IN
18:03:40 AGREEMENT WITH WHAT'S ON THE TABLE TODAY.
18:03:41 WE JUST NEED INFORMATION FROM THE CITY SO WE CAN PUT OUR
18:03:44 RFP OUT FOR THE HEALTH CARE PLAN.
18:03:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SEE YOUR SIGNATURE HERE.
18:03:53 IF YOU ALL CAN SPEAK LOUDER INTO THAT MICROPHONE.
18:03:55 >> YES, WE JUST NEED YOUR AUTHORIZATION ON THERE BEFORE
18:03:59 WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THE CREDENTIALS.
18:04:01 SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
18:04:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:04:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM BOARD
18:04:07 MEMBERS?
18:04:09 BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC
18:04:11 THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, THIS WALK-ON ITEM?
18:04:14 SEEING NONE, YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR HERE, COUNCIL
18:04:18 MEMBER GUDES.
18:04:19 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:04:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:04:22 ANY OPPOSED?
18:04:23 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED, VIERA BEING ABSENT.
18:04:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE GO TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.
18:04:31 AS YOU SEE.
18:04:33 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
18:04:36 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY
18:04:39 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:04:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:04:40 ALL RIGHT.
18:04:41 YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN IF YOU PLAN ON PRESENTING,
18:04:44 SPEAKING, SAYING ANYTHING THIS EVENING.
18:04:45 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND.
18:04:46 THAT INCLUDES THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE.
18:04:48 AND I WILL ONCE AGAIN ASK WHEN SPEAKERS COME IN LATER ON,
18:04:52 AND PLEASE BE SWORN IN.
18:04:53 GO AHEAD, SIR.
18:04:54 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
18:04:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:04:59 WE BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:05:01 ITEM NUMBER 1, PETITIONER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH
18:05:04 THE LECTERN.
18:05:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
18:05:10 IF WE CAN, JUST IF I MAY, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC,
18:05:13 THIS IS OUR FIRST EVENING MEETING FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL
18:05:18 HEARINGS AND I WISH TO ADDRESS THE MATTER OF PUBLIC
18:05:20 COMMENT, HOW WE ARE HANDLING THIS DURING THE STATE OF
18:05:24 EMERGENCY FOR THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AT THE TAMPA
18:05:27 CONVENTION CENTER.
18:05:28 WE ARE ASKING EVERYBODY TO BE PLEASE RESPECTFUL OF THE
18:05:32 6-FOOT DISTANCING RULE.
18:05:34 WE HAVE FOR YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING, WE HAVE TWO
18:05:39 PODIUMS SET UP.
18:05:41 CHOOSE WHICHEVER ONE TO USE, AND FROM THAT POINT ON, ONE
18:05:45 WILL BE CLEANED WHILE THE NEXT PODIUM IS AVAILABLE TO BE
18:05:48 USED AND IT WILL BE ALTERNATING SO YOU WILL HAVE IT TO BE
18:05:53 SANITIZED BETWEEN USERS.
18:05:55 ALSO, IF YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, BETWEEN THE TWO
18:05:58 PODIUMS, THERE IS AN OVERHEAD CAMERA.
18:06:03 IF YOU PLACE SOMETHING DOWN, IF YOU WISH COUNCIL TO SEE
18:06:07 IT ON THEIR MONITORS, YOU FACE IT FACE DOWN FACING YOU,
18:06:12 IN YOUR DIRECTION, AND IT WILL BE PICKED UP BY THE CAMERA
18:06:15 AND BROADCAST AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
18:06:18 ON THEIR MONITORS.
18:06:20 LIKEWISE, IF YOU HAVE A POSTER BOARD TONIGHT, THAT
18:06:23 REQUIRES AN EASEL, AN EASEL IS SET UP FOR YOU.
18:06:27 IT IS ACTUALLY MARKED ON THE GROUND FOR A SPECIFIC
18:06:29 LOCATION.
18:06:30 PLEASE KEEP IN THE THAT LOCATION SO IT CAN ALSO BE PICKED
18:06:34 UP BY A CAMERA AND BROADCAST AS WELL AS SENT TO THE
18:06:37 COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THEIR MONITORS.
18:06:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
18:06:41 AND FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE TONIGHT.
18:06:43 ONE LAST THING.
18:06:44 WE DO NOT HAVE A SIGN-IN SHEET FOR PUBLIC HEALTH REASONS
18:06:49 OF SHARING OF PENS AND HAVING A SANITIZED PEN SO THE
18:06:52 REQUEST TO YOU IS THIS.
18:06:54 WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE CLEARLY STATE YOUR
18:06:57 NAME, AND THEN WE ASK THAT YOU SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE
18:07:01 CLERK SO WE HAVE THE SPELLING OF YOUR NAME.
18:07:05 AND IF YOU WERE NOT SWORN OR IF YOU WISH TO STATE THAT
18:07:10 YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN, YOU CAN DO SO.
18:07:12 BUT PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPECIMEN IT FOR THE
18:07:13 RECORD.
18:07:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:07:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
18:07:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WATCHING ONE OF THE OTHER
18:07:25 BOARDS BOARD MEETINGS IN HERE, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND
18:07:29 I NOTICED WHEN PEOPLE CAME IN FROM THE OUTER ROOM THEY
18:07:32 PROBABLY HAD --
18:07:36 >>> OH, AFTER YOU SPEAK AND YOUR VOICE IS HEARD, PLEASE
18:07:40 GO OUT AND BRING MORE PEOPLE IN.
18:07:45 FOLKS OUT SIDE, MAKE SURE YOU ARE SWORN IN.
18:07:48 THANK YOU.
18:07:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STAFF NEEDS TO MAKE THEIR
18:07:50 PRESENTATION BEFORE THE APPLICANT PRESENTS.
18:07:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
18:07:53 GO AHEAD.
18:07:53 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
18:07:57 COORDINATION.
18:07:59 S THIS IS CASE NUMBER AB 2-1924.
18:08:05 IT'S AN ALCOHOL BEVERAGE TO REQUEST THE PROPERTY AT 3434
18:08:14 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE SUITES 101 AND 102, CURRENTLY ZONED
18:08:22 INTENSIVE.
18:08:22 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
18:08:25 THIS APPLICATION AND FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE
18:08:28 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.
18:08:30 THERE ARE MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN THAT ARE
18:08:33 NEEDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
18:08:36 THE SITE CURRENTLY HAS AN ACTIVE AB CASE FILE D-11-196
18:08:42 FOR BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY INSIDE,
18:08:48 AND THE PROPOSAL IS FOR BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON
18:08:52 PREMISES ONLY FOR A RESTAURANT INSIDE AND OUTSIDE
18:08:55 CONSUMPTION.
18:08:56 THE TOTAL AB AREA PROPOSED IS 198 -- I'M SORRY, 1,982
18:09:02 SQUARE FEET INDOOR, 288 SQUARE FEET OUT DOOR, AB SALES
18:09:06 AREA FOR A TOTAL OF 2,270 SQUARE FEET, TOTAL AB SALES
18:09:11 AREA.
18:09:11 A TOTAL OF 81 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 52 ARE
18:09:18 BEING PROVIDED SUBJECT TO A WAIVER APPROVAL, THE SALES
18:09:21 HOURS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
18:09:28 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS SPECIAL USE APPROVAL TO ALLOW
18:09:31 THE SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE FOR RESTAURANT BEER AND
18:09:34 WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY WITHIN AN EXISTING
18:09:36 RESTAURANT USE.
18:09:37 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD 288 SQUARE FEET OF OUT
18:09:41 DOOR DINING TER AREA TO THE NORTH OF AN EXISTING
18:09:44 RESTAURANT APPROVED FOR ALCOHOL SALES IN 2011.
18:09:47 THE PETITION IS CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE.
18:09:50 THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA PROPOSED, 2,270 SQUARE FEET,
18:09:55 INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SALES, AND ACCORDING TO THE FLOOR PLAN
18:09:59 SUBMITTED THERE IS A TOTAL OF 83 OCCUPANTS.
18:10:01 THE SUBJECTS SITE IS LOCATED IN A STRIP COMMERCIAL CENTER
18:10:04 AND HAS A TOTAL OF 52 EXISTING PARKING SPACES.
18:10:08 THE PREVIOUS USE FOR THIS SUBJECT SITE WAS A RESTAURANT
18:10:10 AND THE PROPOSED USE IS AN INCREASE IN INTENSITY.
18:10:13 THEREFORE THE SITE LAYOUT IS REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH
18:10:17 FURTHER SITE REVIEW INCLUDING PARKING AND BUFFERING.
18:10:20 THE REMAINING UNITS OF THE STRIP CENTER ARE FOR RETAIL
18:10:25 SALES.
18:10:25 THERE IS ONE WAIVER REQUESTED FOR THE DISTANCE SEPARATION
18:10:27 REQUIREMENT FROM OTHER AB SALES AREA.
18:10:29 THE SUBJECTS PROPERTY IS ALONG A MIXED USE CORRIDOR
18:10:32 VILLAGE AND THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 250
18:10:35 SQUARE FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS AS WELL AS
18:10:38 RESIDENTIAL USES.
18:10:40 THE SITE PLAN STATES HOURS OF OPERATION CONSISTENT WITH
18:10:43 CHAPTER 14, AND THE SALES AREA SHALL NOT BE LOCATED
18:10:46 WITHIN A PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACES AND ALL
18:10:49 PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 KEEP ON-SITE A
18:10:54 COPY OF THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND ASSOCIATED PLAN.
18:10:57 THE REQUESTED WAIVERS AS STATED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT ON
18:11:00 PAGE 2 IS TO 132 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED MINIMUM DISTANCE
18:11:05 SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES FROM 250 FEET TO 240, SO A
18:11:10 10-FOOT, SECTION 283.7 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING BY
18:11:16 36% FROM 81 SPACES REQUIRED TO 52 SPACES PROVIDED.
18:11:22 27-283-12-J TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET,
18:11:27 WEST ST. JOSEPH STREET.
18:11:29 AND THE LAST WAIVER BEING REQUESTED IS TO 27-283-12 TO
18:11:34 ALLOY REDUCTION OF THE DRIVE AISLE WIDTH FROM 24 FEET TO
18:11:38 22 FEET.
18:11:39 AS FAR AS THE 10-FOOT DEFICIT OF SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB
18:11:43 SALES, THE AB SALES AREA THAT IS WITHIN 140 FEET IS THE
18:11:50 7-ELEVEN WHICH IS DIRECTLY THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3444
18:11:54 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
18:11:55 AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY, THE PROPERTY IS ALONG A MIXED USE
18:11:59 CORRIDOR.
18:12:00 THERE ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO BE DONE BETWEEN FIRST AND
18:12:02 SECOND READING TO THE SITE PLAN FOR PLANNING AND
18:12:07 DEVELOPMENT, AND TRANSPORTATION DID FIND THIS
18:12:10 INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO THE LOCAL STREET.
18:12:14 THE REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED PARKING AND THE REDUCTION
18:12:17 IN THE DRIVE AISLE WIDTH.
18:12:20 AND I WILL SHOW YOU A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN THAT IS BEING
18:12:23 PROPOSED.
18:12:33 HERE IS THE -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?
18:12:38 HERE IS THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA.
18:12:40 AND THIS IS THE EXISTING INDOOR SALES AREA WITH
18:12:42 EXISTING -- AND THIS IS THE REMAINING STRIP COMMERCIAL
18:12:47 CENTER AND PARKING LOT.
18:12:50 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
18:12:52 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL?
18:12:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
18:12:58 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:12:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MARY.
18:13:02 I NOTED ON NOTE 2 OF THE SITE PLAN IT SPEAKS TO OUTDOOR
18:13:06 AMPLIFIED SOUND PERMITTED TILL 11 P.M.
18:13:09 IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON DAYS OF THE WEEK.
18:13:12 AND WE DID GET, I SEE, AT LEAST ONE LETTER FROM SOMEBODY
18:13:17 IN THE COMMUNITY WHO SAID HE'S SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
18:13:21 ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND SAID HE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT AMPLIFIED
18:13:25 MUSIC UNTIL 11:00 AT NIGHT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
18:13:31 I CAN ASK THE PETITIONER ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
18:13:34 BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP IN DISCUSSIONS AT
18:13:37 ALL OR WHAT?
18:13:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, THAT HAS NOT COME UP WITH
18:13:41 DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.
18:13:43 THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF CODE.
18:13:44 THAT'S COMING FROM THE APPLICANT.
18:13:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
18:13:49 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
18:13:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
18:13:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:13:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
18:13:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
18:13:54 SIR?
18:13:56 >> CHARLES KITZMILLER, K-I-T-Z-M-I-L-L-E-R.
18:14:03 MY ADDRESS?
18:14:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES HE HAVE TO PROVIDE HIS ADDRESS?
18:14:10 NO, SIR.
18:14:11 NO, GO AHEAD.
18:14:12 >> THE PETITION TO EXPAND OUR WET ZONING AREA FROM THE
18:14:17 EXISTING INSIDE SPACE OF THE RESTAURANT.
18:14:21 HAS YET TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
18:14:23 RESTAURANT.
18:14:43 (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE)
18:14:46 THE PROPERTY IS IN THIS AREA HERE.
18:14:48 >> THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS THE RESTAURANT.
18:15:23 [OFF MICROPHONE.]
18:15:35 >> THIS IS ACCESS TO THE ACTUAL PARKING LOT.
18:15:41 PARKING LOT.
18:15:56 SUBJECT PROPERTY.
18:15:58 THIS IS GADSDEN.
18:16:16 (SPEAKING AWAY FROM MICROPHONE)
18:17:27 THIS IS THE PARKING LOT.
18:17:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:18:20 ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?
18:18:24 GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:18:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:18:27 HOW MANY OTHER STORES ARE LOCATED IN THIS MALL?
18:18:31 THIS STRIP CENTER, EXCUSE ME.
18:18:37 JUST GIVE ME A BALLPARK FIGURE.
18:18:39 >> ABOUT TEN.
18:18:42 ABOUT TEN.
18:18:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
18:18:46 THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE LANDLORDS, HOW MANY
18:18:49 PARKING SPACES ARE YOU ALLOTTED?
18:18:51 >> NOT AWARE OF THAT.
18:18:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR ESTABLISHMENT, ALL PARKING SPACES
18:18:58 ARE OPEN?
18:19:00 >> YES.
18:19:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:19:02 >> AND THE REDUCTION IN PARKING IS BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN
18:19:05 WAS UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE DUMPSTERS ON-SITE INCLUDING
18:19:09 THE TRUCK.
18:19:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT HOURS OF OPERATION IS THIS
18:19:14 RESTAURANT?
18:19:15 IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE INFORMATION, IF I MAY, MR.
18:19:18 CHAIR, HE HAS TO DO IT OVER AT THE LECTERN.
18:19:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:19:24 JUST SO WE HAVE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE RECORD.
18:19:26 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:19:29 HOW LONG ARE THE HOURS OF THE RESTAURANT?
18:19:34 >> 11 A.M.
18:19:35 >> IF I COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
18:19:37 >> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) --
18:19:41 >> HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE IN YOUR
18:19:43 RESTAURANT INCLUDING THIS NEW ADDITION?
18:19:47 WHAT SEATING CAPACITY?
18:19:49 >> [OFF MICROPHONE.]
18:19:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE.
18:20:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANKS.
18:20:02 MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
18:20:04 SO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DO YOU HAVE?
18:20:08 EXCUSE ME, LET ME REPHRASE.
18:20:10 THAT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DOES THE STRIP CENTER HAVE?
18:20:15 >> 52.
18:20:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 52.
18:20:19 AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE YOU ABLE TO SEAT IN YOUR
18:20:21 RESTAURANT, POST COVID-19.
18:20:25 >> AT A FULL, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE RESTRICTION?
18:20:31 PROBABLY 40 PEOPLE.
18:20:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAJORITY.
18:20:36 >> NOT EVERYBODY COMES IN AT THE SAME TIME.
18:20:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MY QUESTION IS THE MAJORITY OF
18:20:41 PARKING SPACES WILL BE TAKEN BY YOUR RESTAURANT.
18:20:46 >> I ALSO OWN THE BAR SO IT WILL NOT BE IMPACTED.
18:20:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
18:20:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIR, YOU HEARD A MINUTE AGO,
18:20:56 REFERENCING THE LETTER, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE
18:20:59 NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT RIGHT ON TOP OF
18:21:02 THAT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A BUSY CORNER.
18:21:04 I RECOGNIZE THAT.
18:21:07 HOWEVER, MOST OF THE RESTAURANTS ALONG THERE DON'T HAVE
18:21:11 AMPLIFIED MUSIC OUTDOORS.
18:21:16 >> ANYWHERE IN THE RESTAURANT.
18:21:19 WE HAVE A SOUND SYSTEM INSIDE THE RESTAURANT.
18:21:21 WE DON'T HAVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
18:21:23 AND EVEN IF I DID, YOU COULDN'T HEAR IT OUTSIDE OF THE
18:21:28 RESTAURANT TO BEGIN WITH.
18:21:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
18:21:31 WELL, GOOD.
18:21:32 BECAUSE NOTE NUMBER 2 SAYS OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND IS
18:21:35 PERMITTED UNTIL 11 P.M.
18:21:37 >> RIGHT.
18:21:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S A CONCERN IF YOU GUYS ARE
18:21:42 WILLING TO MODIFY THAT LANGUAGE, I THINK WE COULD -- MR.
18:21:46 SHELBY, WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT THIS EVENING.
18:21:49 MY BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE WANT
18:21:54 TO BE REASONABLE.
18:21:55 I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ARE OPENING UP SOME OUTDOOR
18:21:57 SPACE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IN THIS COVID ENVIRONMENT,
18:22:00 RESTAURANTS NEED OUTDOOR SPACE.
18:22:02 SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
18:22:03 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOT OF
18:22:08 TIMES, THIS BODY LOOKS TO LIMIT THAT DURING THE WEEKDAYS,
18:22:11 SO, YOU KNOW, AMPLIFIED SOUND UNTIL 11 MIGHT BE OKAY
18:22:15 FRIDAY AND SATURDAY BUT NOT THE REST OF THE WEEK, THAT
18:22:18 SORT OF THING.
18:22:19 MAYBE TILL 9:00 OR SOMETHING.
18:22:20 >> HOWEVER, WE ARE AIR FAMILY RESTAURANT.
18:22:25 WE DON'T HAVE A CLUB.
18:22:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE NOT ANTICIPATING MUSIC
18:22:29 OUTDOORS OUT THERE AT ALL?
18:22:31 >> NOT MUSIC THAT'S GOING TO BE LOUD ENOUGH TO BE HEARD
18:22:35 250 FEET AWAY THERE.
18:22:36 WON'T BE ANY AMPLIFIED SOUND.
18:22:39 I PROBABLY HAVE A SPEAKER OUTSIDE FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR SOME
18:22:42 KIND OF SOUND SO THEY ARE NOT SITTING THERE BORED BUT
18:22:46 NOTHING ON THE STREET.
18:22:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MR. KITZMILLER, IT'S HARD FOR US
18:22:51 TO REGULATE THE LEVEL.
18:22:52 I BELIEVE YOU.
18:22:53 BUT IT'S HARD FOR US TO REGULATE THE LEVEL OF SOUND
18:22:55 EXACTLY BEYOND WHAT THE CODE ALREADY ALLOWS OR DOESN'T
18:22:58 ALLOW.
18:22:59 SO MR. KITZMILLER, IF YOU AND YOUR CLIENT WOULD BE
18:23:01 AMENABLE TO SAYING AMPLIFIED SOUND PERMITTED TILL 9:00
18:23:07 WHICH WOULD BE, WHAT, SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND UNTIL
18:23:12 11 ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, IF THAT'S A REASONABLE
18:23:16 COMPROMISE?
18:23:17 >> IT'S A REASONABLE COMPROMISE BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S
18:23:20 NEEDED.
18:23:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW YOU DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY
18:23:23 BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I HOPE IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
18:23:27 BUT JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:23:29 >> I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE I LIVE CLOSER TO THE
18:23:32 PLACE THAN THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE LETTER.
18:23:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
18:23:35 ABSOLUTELY.
18:23:36 THAT WAY YOU CAN WORK 24 HOURS, RIGHT?
18:23:38 >> I ACTUALLY DO.
18:23:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
18:23:40 SO MR. KITZMILLER, OTHER THAN THAT I HAVE NO OTHER
18:23:44 PROBLEM.
18:23:44 >> I'M FINE WITH THE COMPROMISE.
18:23:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
18:23:49 NO?
18:23:49 ALL RIGHT.
18:23:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN THE PAST, AND I AM NOT GOING IN
18:23:54 THE PAST OR THE FUTURE, BUT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT
18:23:58 ARE HERE REMEMBER YOLIE CAPIN AND HER STANDS AGAINST
18:24:05 AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND IT'S INCUMBENTS THAT THIS AREA THAT
18:24:08 HAS FROM I KNOW OF FROM HIMES TO THE RIVER, I DON'T KNOW
18:24:13 OF ONE RESTAURANT OR ONE UNIT THAT HAS AMPLIFIED MUSIC AT
18:24:17 ANY HOUR OF THE NIGHT.
18:24:20 ACCORDING TO THE LAW.
18:24:21 THAT MIGHT HAVE IT WHERE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
18:24:23 BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
18:24:28 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITUATION, HOW DID SOHO DISTRICT
18:24:31 BECOME SOHO DISTRICT?
18:24:33 IT DIDN'T START WITH 100 OF THEM.
18:24:35 IT STARTED WITH ONE.
18:24:36 SO WHEN YOU START TO SET THE TREND -- AND I AM NOT
18:24:39 SPEAKING AGAINST THIS DEVELOPER HERE -- I'M STATING A
18:24:41 FACT FOR THE RECORD.
18:24:42 WHEN YOU START DOING THAT, YOU START THE FIRST ONE, AND
18:24:46 THEN YOU HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A DOMINO EFFECT.
18:24:48 AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK I'M SENSING IN DOING ON THIS.
18:24:53 AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHER UNITS, OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT
18:24:56 STILL HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY AND MAYBE COME BACK AND DO
18:24:59 THAT SAME OPERATION.
18:25:00 AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THERE, COLUMBUS DRIVE IS A
18:25:04 DANGEROUS STREET.
18:25:06 AND IT DOESN'T TRAVEL AT 20 MILES AN HOUR.
18:25:09 IT DOESN'T TRAVEL AT 25 MILES AN HOUR.
18:25:11 IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE GATEWAYS FROM THE AIRPORT INTO TOWN.
18:25:15 AND THE STREET HAS ABOUT TREE NAMES, COLUMBUS DRIVE,
18:25:18 SPRUCE, BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD, ALL THREE OF THEM.
18:25:21 SO IT'S ALREADY CONFUSING ENOUGH.
18:25:23 AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS
18:25:26 PETITION.
18:25:26 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ADDRESS COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO
18:25:32 PUBLIC COMMENT?
18:25:33 COUNCIL, I AM JUST GOING TO ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO ALL THE
18:25:37 EVIDENCE.
18:25:38 WE HAVE YET TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC TONIGHT.
18:25:41 AND PLEASE DON'T FORMULATE ANY OPINIONS UNTIL THE END OF
18:25:45 THE HEARING SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY ARTICULATE THAT BASED ON
18:25:47 THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HEAR.
18:25:50 FINALLY, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE GENERALLY OF PUBLIC
18:25:54 COMMENTS, EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SENT
18:25:57 TO CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED.
18:26:00 THOSE ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
18:26:03 AND YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE.
18:26:07 I WOULD ASK THAT YOU HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
18:26:11 THOSE COMMENTS TONIGHT, AND AGAIN, I ASK THAT YOU BASE
18:26:16 YOUR DECISION ON ALL THE EVIDENCE YOU HEAR AND HAVE IN
18:26:19 THE RECORD.
18:26:19 SO IF I COULD JUST HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT, PLEASE.
18:26:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
18:26:24 FILE?
18:26:25 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE MOTION.
18:26:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:26:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:26:28 ANY OPPOSED?
18:26:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:26:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
18:26:32 ANYTHING ELSE?
18:26:35 >> MR. CHAIR?
18:26:38 ON THE AMPLIFIED SOUND, THIS IS A CASUAL RESTAURANT.
18:26:44 WE ARE JUST TALKING SOFT TYPE MUSIC, TALKING ABOUT --
18:26:54 >> THERE WON'T BE -- IT WILL BE MUSIC IN THE RESTAURANT.
18:27:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL, JUST
18:27:03 SO YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED SPECIAL
18:27:08 USE, AND IF THE USE DOES NOT CHANGE, IT RUNS WITH THE
18:27:12 LAND, AND WHATEVER REPRESENTATIONS ARE MADE WITH REGARD
18:27:14 TO ANY PARTICULAR BUSINESS, JUST REMEMBER IT'S NOT
18:27:18 BINDING.
18:27:18 IT'S WHAT'S ON THE SITE PLAN THAT CONTROLS IT.
18:27:20 IT RUNS WITH THE LAND.
18:27:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:27:24 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
18:27:25 NEXT UP WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
18:27:29 IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN.
18:27:32 IF YOU ARE IN LINE TO SPEAK, REMEMBER THE 6-FOOT DISTANCE
18:27:37 REQUIREMENT.
18:27:37 WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 1?
18:27:41 ANYBODY OUTSIDE, INSIDE?
18:27:52 SENT SOMEONE OUTSIDE TO CHECK.
18:27:58 NO?
18:27:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:27:59 ALL RIGHT.
18:28:01 PETITIONER, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BEFORE WE
18:28:03 MOVE TO CLOSE AND ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER MOTION?
18:28:07 >> NOTHING ELSE, THANK YOU.
18:28:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:28:10 >> SECOND.
18:28:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:28:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE YOU CLOSE, MR. KITZMILLER, I
18:28:16 THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO STAFF
18:28:18 BECAUSE THEY WILL CHANGE THE SITE PLAN ACCORDING TO WHAT
18:28:21 YOU HAVE TO SAY IN REGARD TO THE HOURS AND THE DAYS OF
18:28:27 OPERATION.
18:28:27 WOULD YOU STATE ON THE RECORD WHAT YOU AGREED TO?
18:28:30 >> SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, TILL 9 P.M.
18:28:36 FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY TILL 11 P.M.
18:28:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
18:28:40 AND WE ARE NOT MAKING YOU OR COERCING YOU TO DO THAT.
18:28:44 YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT?
18:28:45 >> WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
18:28:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
18:28:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
18:28:50 NO?
18:28:51 MOTION TO CLOSE?
18:28:52 >> SO MOVED.
18:28:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO MADE THE MOTION, MIRANDA?
18:28:56 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:28:58 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
18:29:00 ALL RIGHT.
18:29:01 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
18:29:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
18:29:05 MY PLEASURE.
18:29:06 I HEREBY MOVING AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
18:29:08 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL
18:29:11 USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, RESTAURANT
18:29:14 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
18:29:17 OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
18:29:20 TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 3434 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, SUITES
18:29:24 101 AND 102, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY
18:29:27 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
18:29:30 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING
18:29:34 SPECIAL USE 1, S-1, V 11-196 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:29:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MR. MANISCALCO, I APOLOGIZE BUT STAFF
18:29:44 NEEDS CLARIFICATION.
18:29:46 THERE WAS DISCUSSION -- MARY SAMANIEGO FOR THE RECORD.
18:29:49 THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT LIMITING THE HOURS FOR
18:29:51 AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
18:29:53 BUT THEN YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
18:29:56 SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
18:29:58 YOU TALKED TO HIM ABOUT RESTRICTING THE HOURS OF
18:30:01 OPERATION OR JUST THE TIME OF AMPLIFIED MUSIC?
18:30:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND IF I MISSPOKE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I
18:30:08 APOLOGIZE.
18:30:08 AMPLIFIED MUSIC NOTED, I BELIEVE.
18:30:12 AMPLIFIED SOUND.
18:30:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:30:15 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
18:30:18 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
18:30:19 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
18:30:21 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
18:30:24 OPPOSED?
18:30:27 DID YOU GET THAT?
18:30:29 LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
18:30:30 VIERA.
18:30:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:30:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:30:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:30:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
18:30:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:30:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
18:30:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
18:30:44 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO, CITRO AND
18:30:47 MIRANDA VOTING NO.
18:30:49 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16th
18:30:52 AT 9:30 A.M.
18:30:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:30:57 ITEM NUMBER 2.
18:30:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN DEVELOPMENT
18:31:02 COORDINATION.
18:31:03 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS APPLICATION AB 2-1926, PROPERTY LOCATED
18:31:07 AT 1702 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
18:31:09 THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND THE LAND
18:31:12 USE IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
18:31:14 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE HAS REVIEWED THE
18:31:17 APPLICATION AND WE FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE
18:31:19 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.
18:31:21 SHOULD YOU APPROVE THIS PETITION TONIGHT, THERE ARE MINOR
18:31:23 CORRECTIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
18:31:25 SECOND READING.
18:31:29 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC
18:31:32 BEVERAGES FOR SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR
18:31:35 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY WITH THE PROPOSED USE AS A
18:31:38 RESTAURANT.
18:31:38 THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA IS 2,500 SQUARE FEET INDOOR ONLY.
18:31:44 THIS PETITION WAS NOT CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE.
18:31:46 THE BUSINESS CORE IS HISTORIC OF DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS LIKE
18:31:51 YBOR CITY.
18:31:51 THEREFORE HISTORIC STRUCTURES OCCUPYING MUCH OF THE LAND
18:31:55 LEAVING LITTLE SPACE FOR OFF-STREET PARKING.
18:31:58 WITHIN THE CORE DISTRICT OF WEST TAMPA, NO OFF-STREET
18:32:02 PARKING IS REQUIRED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING USES
18:32:04 OCCUPYING EXISTING STRUCTURES, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING USES
18:32:08 SHALL INCLUDE ALL USES ALLOWED IN CM ZONING DISTRICT WITH
18:32:11 THE FOLLOWING LIMITATION.
18:32:12 IT DOES NOT APPLY TO RESTAURANTS WITH USES THAT ARE
18:32:15 GREATER THAN 100 PERSON OCCUPANT LOAD, AND THE FLOOR PLAN
18:32:19 AS PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT IS SHOWING A TOTAL OF 87
18:32:23 OCCUPANTS.
18:32:24 SO THEREFORE THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE OFF-STREET PARKING.
18:32:27 HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 17 PARKING SPACES
18:32:29 ON-SITE.
18:32:31 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN WEST TAMPA URBAN
18:32:33 VILLAGE AND THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 250
18:32:36 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
18:32:38 THE AGENT HAS CONFIRMED THE PROPOSED SALES OF HOURS WILL
18:32:41 BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14 AND WILL BE ADDED TO THE
18:32:46 SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF APPROVED.
18:32:49 THE SALES AREA SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED WITHIN A PARKING OR
18:32:52 LOADING AREA OR SPACE AND ALL PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL
18:32:55 1, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT ON-SITE A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE AND
18:32:59 THE SITE PLAN FOR THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES PERMIT.
18:33:02 AGAIN THERE'S ONE WAIVER PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND
18:33:04 THAT'S THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FROM AB SALES
18:33:08 ESTABLISHMENT.
18:33:09 IT COMES FROM SECTION 27-132, THE REQUIREMENT FOR 250
18:33:13 FEET AND THE CLOSEST AB SALES ESTABLISHMENT IS 186 FEET.
18:33:17 THAT ESTABLISHMENT IS LOCATED AT 2135 WEST GREEN STREET,
18:33:21 ZONED CI.
18:33:22 THEY HOLD A 4(COP) FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND
18:33:25 PACKAGE SALES AND AGAIN IT'S AT 186 FEET.
18:33:29 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE
18:33:32 AS WELL AS THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE WEST
18:33:34 TAMPA BUSINESS CORE DISTRICT.
18:33:36 ON PAGE 3 OF STAFF REPORT, PLANNING, DESIGN AND
18:33:39 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO
18:33:43 THE DISTANCE DEVELOPMENT, CHAPTER 27-132, A FEW BULLET
18:33:48 ITEMS THAT NEED CORRECTIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
18:33:51 READING, AND ALSO SOLE I HAD WASTE PLANNING DESIGN FOUND
18:33:55 IT CONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING GRAPHIC
18:33:57 DETAILING THE SOLID WASTE DUMPSTER LOCATION AND REMOVING
18:34:00 THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOT.
18:34:03 ONE CORRECTION AFFECTING 27-143 IN YOUR STAFF REPORT IS
18:34:08 STATES BEER AND WINE. THIS ACTUALLY COMES FROM SECTION
18:34:11 27-43-C FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AND THEN ONE FOR THE
18:34:15 SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT FOR
18:34:17 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
18:34:20 OTHER CODE CRITERIA FOR CITY COUNCIL REFERENCE COMES FROM
18:34:22 SECTION 27-129 AS OUTLINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 4
18:34:26 AND 5.
18:34:27 AND THEN THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA FOR GOVERNING
18:34:30 INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES IS 27-132 ON PAGE 6.
18:34:35 AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.
18:34:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, POINT OF ORDER.
18:34:41 I APOLOGIZE.
18:34:41 MR. SHELBY, WHAT'S THIS ONE GOT GOING ON?
18:34:46 MY WIFE AND I ARE PARTNERS IN A PROPERTY ABOUT A BLOCK
18:34:49 AWAY.
18:34:51 BY MY CALCULATION, PROBABLY ABOUT 700 OR 800 FEET.
18:34:56 BY MY CALCULATION WE ARE NOT WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA, AND
18:34:59 TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE WE DID NOT RECEIVE NOTICE.
18:35:01 IT'S JUST OUT OF A BUN DANCE OF CAUTION I WANTED TO
18:35:04 RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS NEARBY.
18:35:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THAT RAISE AN ISSUE AS TO AN
18:35:16 APPEARANCE, THE PERCEPTION OF BIAS WITH REGARD TO YOUR
18:35:22 VOTE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, AND ON THAT BASIS WOULD
18:35:27 YOU WISH TO ABSTAIN?
18:35:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT BEING
18:35:30 BIASED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
18:35:32 I CAN REVIEW THIS WITH AN OPEN MIND, AND I DO NOT WISH TO
18:35:35 ABSTAIN.
18:35:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
18:35:38 DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR OPINION, BASED ON THE FACTS AS YOU
18:35:41 KNOW THEM TO BE, WOULD THIS ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE
18:35:47 YOU, WHETHER IT'S APPROVED OR DENIED, HAVE ANY APPLICABLE
18:35:54 FINANCIAL EFFECT EITHER TO YOUR DETRIMENT OR BETTERMENT
18:35:59 IF IT WERE PASSED OR DENIED?
18:36:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UM, I MEAN WE ALL WANT TO SEE MAIN
18:36:06 STREET IMPROVED.
18:36:07 AND OBVIOUSLY -- WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GO FURTHER ON
18:36:09 THAT.
18:36:10 BUT WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME KIND OF BUSINESS AT ALL.
18:36:14 MY WIFE'S BUSINESS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
18:36:16 SO, NO, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT
18:36:20 IMPACT ON US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
18:36:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS ANY FINANCIAL
18:36:27 IMPACT THAT YOU HAVE, THAT YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE, WOULD BE
18:36:29 REMOTE OR SPECULATIVE AND THEREFORE YOU HAVE NO DIRECT
18:36:34 FINANCIAL IMPACT IN THIS MATTER?
18:36:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TRUE.
18:36:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IT'S YOUR DECISION THEN THAT YOU
18:36:40 WISH TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE YOU DON'T PERCEIVE THERE TO
18:36:43 BE APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT AND YOU ARE ABLE TO BE FAIR
18:36:45 AND IMPARTIAL.
18:36:46 IS THAT CORRECT?
18:36:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
18:36:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
18:36:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUE SIR.
18:36:50 >> SO THE TOP PICTURE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:36:55 AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO UNITS, WITH THE
18:37:00 APPLICANT THE UNIT PROPOSED FOR THE OUTDOOR SALES IS
18:37:02 GOING TO BE HERE AND I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE SITE PLAN AS
18:37:04 WELL.
18:37:05 THE BOTTOM PICTURE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:37:07 THAT'S THE PARKING THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED AND THEY ARE
18:37:09 NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE.
18:37:10 AGAIN, THE SUBJECT SITE PARKING LOT.
18:37:17 AGAIN ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE PARKING LOT.
18:37:19 I HAVE A FEW PICTURES OF THE PARKING LOT JUST TO GIVE YOU
18:37:22 AN IDEA THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING REGARDLESS OF THE
18:37:25 REQUIREMENT FOR NOT PROVIDING IT.
18:37:28 1758 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, THAT'S THE NORTH NEIGHBOR.
18:37:33 TOP PICTURE, NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
18:37:36 BOTTOM IS ALSO THE NEIGHBOR LIKE A PANORAMIC VIEW.
18:37:44 1519.
18:37:45 THIS IS LOOKING DOWN MAIN STREET GOING EAST.
18:37:49 SO THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE, HERE IS HOWARD.
18:37:54 HERE IS MAIN.
18:37:55 AND THIS HALF AREA IS THE AB SALES AREA BEFORE YOU.
18:38:00 THE ONE CORRECTION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FROM SOLID WASTE
18:38:03 RECEPTACLE IS RIGHT HERE.
18:38:05 THEY WANT THEM TO REMOVE THIS PARKING SPOT THAT WAY SOLID
18:38:10 WASTE WILL NOT HAVE AN ISSUE IF THERE'S A CAR PARKED
18:38:12 THERE.
18:38:13 THIS IS MORE OR LESS THE ZONING BUFFER MAP THAT WE ARE
18:38:15 PROVIDING OUTLINED IN RED IS THE AREA.
18:38:17 AGAIN THE LITTLE BLUE, I PUT A GRAPHIC IN THERE ON THE
18:38:20 NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
18:38:21 THAT'S GOING TO CONTAIN THE AB SALES AREA.
18:38:23 THEN THE TAMPA POLICE, TPD REPORT, THEY FOUND NO
18:38:27 OBJECTIONS TO THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST.
18:38:30 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
18:38:32 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
18:38:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
18:38:37 NO? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:38:39 PETITIONER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
18:38:41 SPELL IT FOR THE RECORD.
18:38:43 >>DAVID MECHANIK: GOOD EVENING.
18:38:44 MY NAME IS DAVID M-E-C-H-A-N-I-K.
18:38:49 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:38:50 MY ADDRESS IS 305 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
18:38:54 I HAVE WITH ME THIS EVENING THE OWNERS OF THE SUBJECT
18:38:58 PROPERTY DAVID SURE AND JENNIFER SURE AND JERROD BRAY,
18:39:09 AND THE STAFF DID A PRETTY DETAILED INFORMATION.
18:39:12 I WILL NOT TRY TO BE REPETITIVE.
18:39:13 I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO MAKE ALL OF THE
18:39:16 CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN INDICATED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
18:39:23 AS NOTED, THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR RESTAURANT FOR
18:39:27 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES ON PREMISES ONLY.
18:39:31 THE RESTAURANT IS ABOUT 2500 FEET.
18:39:35 IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL RESTAURANT WITH OCCUPANCY OF LESS
18:39:41 THAN 100 PERSONS.
18:39:42 THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1902.
18:39:46 IT IS QUITE A HANDSOME BUILDING.
18:39:48 AND MY CLIENT INTENDS TO KEEP IT IN ITS CURRENTS
18:39:51 CONDITION, NO EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES ARE BEING
18:39:56 PROPOSED.
18:39:58 WE HAVE ONE WAIVER, BECAUSE WE ARE 186 FEET FROM ANOTHER
18:40:05 ESTABLISHMENT THAT SELLS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
18:40:10 IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS CERTAINLY
18:40:13 UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAIVER NEEDED,
18:40:16 BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE TAMPA, WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE,
18:40:20 AND THE WEST TAMPA BUSINESS AREA, AND THE AREA IS HEAVILY
18:40:27 COMMERCIAL AND WOULD NOT BE SURPRISING OF COURSE THAT
18:40:29 THERE'S ONE OTHER ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT.
18:40:33 HOWEVER, THIS USE IS GOING TO BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO
18:40:37 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:40:39 THIS WILL BE A NICE SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT THAT PEOPLE CAN
18:40:42 ENJOY, COME TO FROM DOWNTOWN OR ELSEWHERE IN TAMPA, AND
18:40:47 ENJOY THE RESTAURANT.
18:40:51 TO ADDRESS THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE,
18:40:55 THIS WILL BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
18:40:59 WILL BE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:41:02 THE APPLICATION COMPLIES WITH ALL APPLICABLE STANDARDS IN
18:41:07 THE CODE, OF COURSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WAIVER
18:41:10 WHICH WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS
18:41:14 EVENING.
18:41:15 THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS I
18:41:19 INDICATED, COMPLIMENTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:41:24 THE APPLICATION MOST CERTAINLY CONFORMS WITH THE
18:41:27 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:41:29 ZONING IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
18:41:31 AND THIS IS A USE THAT DOES NOT EVEN -- IS A
18:41:36 NEIGHBORHOOD-SERVING USE.
18:41:38 IT DOES NOT EVEN REQUIRE THE CI ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
18:41:43 AND THIS WILL NOT ENCOURAGE MORE INTENSIVE USES IN THE
18:41:48 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COULD SET A TREND FOR A MORE
18:41:53 NEIGHBORHOOD-SERVING TYPE USES.
18:41:55 AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
18:41:58 MAY HAVE.
18:41:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
18:42:00 PETITIONER?
18:42:02 ALL RIGHT.
18:42:03 SEEING NONE.
18:42:05 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM
18:42:08 NUMBER 2?
18:42:12 ALL RIGHT.
18:42:13 SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION -- PETITIONER, DO YOU
18:42:15 HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
18:42:18 ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
18:42:19 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:42:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
18:42:22 CITRO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:42:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:42:26 ALL RIGHT.
18:42:26 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS ITEM?
18:42:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE AB 2-19-26, ORDINANCE BEING
18:42:33 PRESENTED FOR READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
18:42:37 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC
18:42:41 BEVERAGES SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY
18:42:44 AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF
18:42:47 ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN
18:42:51 LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1702 NORTH HOWARD
18:42:56 AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
18:42:58 SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
18:43:01 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN
18:43:04 EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:43:05 >> MOTION CARRIED AND SECOND.
18:43:07 >> MOTION CARRIED.
18:43:09 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16th
18:43:11 AT 9:30 A.M.
18:43:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 23 P I BELIEVE
18:43:18 THIS IS FOR THE FOLKS WITH THE ORANGE SHIRTS, ALL RIGHT?
18:43:20 AND I BELIEVE THERE WERE A FEW OUTSIDE, IF THEY WOULD
18:43:23 LIKE TO COME IN, IF THEY ARE ABLE TO.
18:43:25 WE DO HAVE A FEW SEATS.
18:43:26 GO AHEAD.
18:43:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE BEGIN, THERE HAVE BEEN PUBLIC
18:43:33 COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS FILE NUMBER THAT HAVE BEEN
18:43:35 RECEIVED.
18:43:37 THEY HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY ARE
18:43:39 IN THE CLERK'S FILE.
18:43:40 I WOULD ASK THOSE BE RECEIVED AND FILED.
18:43:45 >> MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
18:43:48 VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
18:43:51 GO AHEAD.
18:43:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
18:43:56 COORDINATION.
18:43:56 THIS IS CASE AB 2-20-03 LOCATED AT 6401 NORTH NEBRASKA
18:44:04 AVENUE.
18:44:04 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
18:44:07 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, BEER AND WINE
18:44:15 ON PREMISES ONLY WITH A PROPOSED USE OF A RESTAURANT.
18:44:17 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS
18:44:20 APPLICATION AND FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA
18:44:28 ORDINANCES WITH MINOR CHANGES.
18:44:30 THE AB SALES AREA IS 8,924 SQUARE FEET, REQUIRED PARKING
18:44:34 IS 45 SPACES, AND 20 SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED, AND THE
18:44:39 HOURS OF OPERATION FOR SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH
18:44:42 CHAPTER 14.
18:44:49 THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS REQUESTING A SMALL VENUE BEER AND
18:44:51 WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND THE PROPOSED USE IS
18:44:54 A RESTAURANT AS WELL AS OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL RECREATION
18:44:57 FACILITY.
18:44:58 THIS PETITION IS CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE.
18:45:03 ACCORDING TO THE FLOOR PLAN THE TO THE OCCUPANT COUNT IS
18:45:06 A MAXIMUM OF 254 OCCUPANTS.
18:45:09 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER
18:45:11 OF NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE AND EAST NORTH STREET
18:45:16 INTERSECTION.
18:45:16 THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY IS THIS PROFESSIONAL
18:45:19 OFFICE, AND THAT STRUCTURE BUILDING WILL REMAIN, AND AS I
18:45:24 WILL SHOW YOU ON THE SITE PLAN, THE RESTAURANT IS OUTDOOR
18:45:27 RECREATIONAL FACILITY WILL BE TO THE NORTH BUT ON THE
18:45:31 SAME LOT.
18:45:31 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS REQUESTED FOR DISTANCE SEPARATION
18:45:34 REQUIRED FOR OTHER AB SALES AREA.
18:45:36 AGAIN THERE'S NO OTHER AB SALES AREA WITHIN 250 FEET OF
18:45:42 THE SITE.
18:45:43 IT IS WITHIN AN URBAN VILLAGE AND MEETS THE SEPARATION
18:45:46 STANDARD.
18:45:50 THERE IS ONE QUALIFIED WAIVER TO 27-283.7 TO REDUCE THE
18:45:54 REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FROM 45 TOTAL TO 20
18:45:59 PROVIDED WHICH IS A 55% REDUCTION.
18:46:02 I WILL REMAINED CITY COUNCIL ACCORDING TO THE CODE,
18:46:05 BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE USES ON THE PROPERTY, THEY
18:46:08 HAVE TO PARK INDEPENDENTLY SO THE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
18:46:12 OFFICE HAS THEIR REQUIRED PARKING AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL
18:46:15 USE OF RESTAURANT AND COMMERCIAL OUTDOOR RECREATION
18:46:19 FACILITY ALSO HAS TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN REQUIRED PARKING.
18:46:23 HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WILL EXPLAIN THAT WHEN THE OFFICE
18:46:27 IS CLOSED THAT THE PARKING SPACES WILL BE USED BY THE
18:46:31 RESTAURANT AND NOT THE COMMERCIAL USE.
18:46:39 THE ONLY INCONSISTENCY IS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION
18:46:43 DIVISION FOR THE PARKING REDUCTION, ACCORDING TO READING
18:46:47 OF THE CODE.
18:46:48 LET ME SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
18:46:54 HERE, THIS IS A SIDE VIEW FROM NEBRASKA AVENUE, AND FROM
18:46:59 THE CORNER LOT OF THE EXISTING OFFICE USE.
18:47:03 UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS A DISTANCE WHERE THE AB SALES
18:47:08 AREA WILL BE BEHIND THIS WALL.
18:47:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 6301 OR 401?
18:47:17 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: 6401.
18:47:28 >> THERE'S A SCRIVENER'S ERROR ON THE PHOTO.
18:47:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
18:47:32 I APOLOGIZE.
18:47:33 IT IS 6401.
18:47:37 THIS IS 6400 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
18:47:40 THE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST.
18:47:42 THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST, NORTH STREET, IS A RESIDENTIAL
18:47:45 PROPERTY.
18:47:49 AGAIN, THE NORTHERN NEIGHBOR IS 67 -- I'M SORRY, 6407
18:47:55 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
18:47:56 AND THEN DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
18:47:59 THAT WAS APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AT 6307 NORTH
18:48:06 NEBRASKA.
18:48:15 IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT HEAR THIS IS NEBRASKA.
18:48:18 THIS IS NORTH STREET.
18:48:20 HERE IS THE EXITING OFFICE BUILDING THAT WILL REMAIN THAT
18:48:23 HAS A MURAL ON ITSELF.
18:48:24 THEN HERE IS THE OUTDOOR AREA THAT WILL BE FOR THE
18:48:27 RESTAURANT USE AS WELL AS THE OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL USE.
18:48:32 AND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DID DO A REVIEW, AND THEY
18:48:36 HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST.
18:48:40 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
18:48:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY
18:48:44 BOARD MEMBERS?
18:48:45 ALL RIGHT.
18:48:45 SEEING NONE, APPLICANT.
18:48:46 >> JIM PORTER, P-O-R-T-E-R, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
18:48:59 WITH ME IS THE APPLICANT PROPERTY OWNER, AND THE PROPERTY
18:49:04 ARCHITECT AS WELL.
18:49:05 COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN URBAN PROJECT
18:49:08 THAT DOESN'T FIT SQUARELY WITHIN THE CITY CODE AND
18:49:10 REQUIRES SOME EXPLANATION.
18:49:12 I AM GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE PROJECT.
18:49:13 I AM GOING TO ASK THE PROPERTY OWNER TO GO THROUGH HER
18:49:17 VISION FOR THE PROPERTY AND THEN ADDRESS THE PARKING
18:49:20 REQUIREMENTS AND WRAP IT UP.
18:49:21 TO BRIEFLY ORIENT YOU, NEBRASKA AVENUE.
18:49:28 THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
18:49:30 YOU CAN SEE IT'S A HEAVILY COMMERCIAL PART OF NEBRASKA.
18:49:34 THE FRONT PART OF THE PROPERTY IS CI.
18:49:36 THE PROPERTY WHERE THE RESTAURANT WILL BE IS ZONED CG.
18:49:45 THERE IS A HOTEL NEXT TO THE PROPERTY.
18:49:47 DIRECTLY ACROSS NORTH STREET IS A 112 UNIT APARTMENT
18:49:52 COMPLEX BEING DEVELOPED AND BUILT RIGHT NOW.
18:49:56 AGAIN, ACROSS NEBRASKA, MORE COMMERCIAL INTENSE INTENSIVE
18:50:00 USES.
18:50:02 ACROSS NEBRASKA IN FRONT OF THE SITE.
18:50:06 AND THIS IS LOOKING ON NORTH STREET TOWARDS 275.
18:50:10 YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE THE INTERSTATE IS.
18:50:16 THE INTENT IS TO CREATE A SMALL URBAN RESTAURANT THAT
18:50:19 WILL BE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING AND WILL ONLY BE USED WHEN
18:50:23 EXISTING OFFICE SPACE IS CLOSED.
18:50:26 THE GREEN SPACE WILL BE USED FOR THINGS SUCH AS CORNHOLE
18:50:30 AND THE MINI MART IS ABOUT A MILE WAY. THIS IS
18:50:35 DETERMINING HOW MUCH PARKING IS REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE
18:50:38 AND WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
18:50:39 WE'LL DEMONSTRATE TO YOU TONIGHT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO
18:50:41 PROVIDE ADEQUATE PARKING ON THE SITE THAT WILL NOT CAUSE
18:50:44 ANY PROBLEMS AND WILL ADEQUATELY PRESERVING THE FACILITY.
18:50:49 I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AS WELL.
18:50:55 AGAIN, NEBRASKA, NORTH. THIS IS THE EXISTING OFFICE
18:50:59 BUILDING.
18:50:59 THIS IS A PROPOSED RESTAURANT AREA WITH THE GREEN SPACE
18:51:03 HERE THAT WILL BE USED FOR RECREATIONAL PASSIVE USES.
18:51:09 YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER THAT'S BEEN
18:51:11 CREATED HERE, A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY
18:51:17 LINE.
18:51:17 AT THIS POINT I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HERE FOR THE
18:51:23 CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THEN WRAP IT UP.
18:51:25 THANK YOU.
18:51:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:51:40 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MEMBERS.
18:51:48 THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
18:51:56 MY NAME IS ANGIE BRITTAIN, I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY
18:52:03 AT 6401 NORTH NEBRASKA.
18:52:05 I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA AND THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
18:52:08 AREA FOR 32 YEARS.
18:52:09 THE BUILDING, IN 2017, I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN
18:52:14 ANTICIPATION OF MOVING MY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FROM SOUTH
18:52:16 TAMPA TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
18:52:19 THE BUILDING PROPERTY REQUIRED A GREAT DEAL OF BLOOD,
18:52:23 SWEAT AND TEARS AND MONEY.
18:52:25 IT HAS SAT VACANT FOR NEARLY A DECADE.
18:52:30 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME PHOTOS OF WHAT THE
18:52:34 PROPERTY LOOKED LIKE WHEN I PURCHASED IT.
18:52:38 THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN COMPLETELY IN DISREPAIR.
18:52:46 YOU CAN SEE THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY
18:52:49 ON THE ROOF IS NO LONGER THERE.
18:52:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. BRITTAIN, SINCE THERE ARE ABOUT
18:52:56 20 PEOPLE OUTSIDE IN ORANGE SHIRTS THAT DON'T WANT TO
18:52:59 SPEAK BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION.
18:53:01 SO I JUST WANT TO TELL THE CROWD YOU ARE NOTE HERE FOR
18:53:05 NUMBER 3, IF YOU COULD STEP OUT JUST FOR THIS
18:53:07 PRESENTATION SO THEY CAN COME IN BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE
18:53:09 OVERFLOW, SO THEY CAN HEAR THIS PRESENTATION, AND ONCE
18:53:13 THIS FUN ISSUES YOU ALL COME BACK.
18:53:15 JUST AS A COURTESY.
18:53:17 THEY ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK.
18:53:18 THEY JUST WANT TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT AND BE HERE FOR THIS
18:53:22 PRESENTATION.
18:53:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE AUDIO OUT THERE?
18:53:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT IN THE PROPER AREA.
18:53:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:53:45 THEY ARE BRINGING THEM IN.
18:53:49 WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING WE CAN'T HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN
18:53:53 HERE AT ONCE.
18:53:57 AND HERE NECESSITY COME.
18:54:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL GATOR FANS.
18:54:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
18:54:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS BEING A PUBLIC
18:54:29 MEETING, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS -- I BELIEVE THIS IS VALUABLE
18:54:33 ON PEOPLE'S PHONES, LIVE STREAMING, AT TAMPAGOV.NET SLASH
18:54:40 LIVE STREAM IF THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO VIEW IT AND ARE
18:54:42 NOT ABLE TO SEE IT OUTSIDE.
18:54:44 OTHERWISE, WE DO HAVE AN OVERFLOW ROOM THAT DOES HAVE
18:54:48 CLOSED CAPTIONING AND ALSO AUDIO AND VIDEO, AND THEY CAN
18:54:53 WATCH IT TOO, BUT THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE OUT THERE HERE
18:54:56 FOR LATER MEETINGS.
18:54:58 SO THEY MAY HAVE TO BE ASKED TO GRIFF UP THEIR SEATS TO
18:55:03 BE ABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OR GIVE
18:55:05 PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE THE MEETING AS IT'S
18:55:08 GOING ON IN THIS PARTICULAR HEARING THAT'S GOING ON.
18:55:11 SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, AND
18:55:15 ASK THE COUNCIL'S INDULGENCE AS WE WORK THROUGH
18:55:17 LOGISTICS.
18:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
18:55:19 GO AHEAD.
18:55:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
18:55:22 SO I WAS JUST EXPLAINING TO COUNCIL THAT JUST SHOWING
18:55:26 SOME PHOTOS OF WHAT THE PROPERTY LAD LIKE WHEN I
18:55:29 PURCHASED IT.
18:55:31 IT'S BEEN USED AS A DUMPING GROUND.
18:55:33 IT WASN'T FENCED AT THE TIME THAT I PURCHASED IT.
18:55:37 AND THIS DUMPSTER WAS ON-SITE.
18:55:39 THE TRUCK WAS ON-SITE.
18:55:40 WE HAD TO PAY TO HAVE THAT REMOVED.
18:55:42 THOSE WEREN'T MINE.
18:55:46 ON THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, EVERYTHING HAD BEEN
18:55:50 LOOTED.
18:55:50 ANYTHING THAT HAD BEEN IN THERE OF VALUE HAD BEEN
18:55:53 REMOVED.
18:55:56 AND THERE WERE SEVERAL HOMELESS CAMPS SET UP IN VARIOUS
18:56:01 AREAS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.
18:56:08 DISTRICT 2 POLICE OFFICERS WERE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS
18:56:11 BUILDING AS THEY FREQUENTLY BATTLED THE DRUG AND
18:56:15 PROSTITUTION AT THE SITE.
18:56:19 IN 2018 WE RECEIVED OUR PERMITS AND COMMENCED WITH THE
18:56:23 IMPROVEMENTS.
18:56:26 THIS IS WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE NOW.
18:56:30 IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
18:56:33 WE INSTALLED 10-FOOT SIDEWALKS ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE, AND
18:56:38 5-FOOT SIDEWALKS ALONG NORTH STREET.
18:56:52 JUST TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- I'M A GENERAL
18:56:57 CONTRACTOR, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE MY
18:57:00 VISION.
18:57:01 SO THIS IS WHAT I TURNED THAT BUILDING INTO, AND SO YOU
18:57:05 CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT I MIGHT DO WITH THE ROLLING
18:57:09 MULLET.
18:57:11 THAT IS THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING CONFERENCE ROOM, AND
18:57:16 OFFICE.
18:57:18 DESIGN STUDIO.
18:57:21 THE BATHROOM.
18:57:29 HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY.
18:57:31 AS MARY POINTED OUT THEY COULDN'T SEE BEHIND THE FENCE.
18:57:34 SO HERE IS THE PROPERTY.
18:57:37 THAT'S THE CURRENT OFFICE BUILDING.
18:57:39 AND THE VISION IS THAT THE RESTAURANT WOULD BE TIED UP,
18:57:45 IS TIED TO THE OFFICE AND DRIVEWAY AS POSSIBLE.
18:57:57 (LOST AUDIO).
18:58:04 THIS IS TPD WITH CRIMES THEY HE THEY WERE PURSUING
18:58:19 BECAUSE IT WAS CAUGHT ON OUR NEW SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.
18:58:22 HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
18:58:34 BUT I HAVE A VISION FOR MORE.
18:58:37 MY OFFICE ONLY OCCUPIES HALF OF THE PROPERTY FOOTPRINT,
18:58:43 AND MY COMPANY ONLY UTILIZES THE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY
18:58:47 40% OF THE STANDARD RESTAURANT AND BAR HOURS.
18:58:51 THE PROPERTY IS UNOCCUPIED AND UNUSED ON EVENINGS AND
18:58:56 WEEKENDS.
18:58:57 THIS IS A LARGE PROPERTY WITH OVER THREE QUARTERS OF AN
18:59:00 ACRE, TREE CANOPIED LAND IN THE CENTER OF OLD SEMINOLE
18:59:04 HEIGHTS.
18:59:06 HOW IT LOOKS ON THERE.
18:59:08 SO THIS IS NEBRASKA AVENUE.
18:59:09 AND THIS IS THE SITE.
18:59:13 THE PRIVACY OF TREE CANOPIES OFFER AN INTIMATE AND
18:59:15 RELAXING ENVIRONMENT.
18:59:18 I WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
18:59:20 IT FEELS LIKE SUCH A WASTE FOR ME TO HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL
18:59:24 PROPERTY THAT I GET TO ENJOY DURING MY WORK DAYS, BUT
18:59:28 THEN WHEN MY BUSINESS DOORS ARE CLOSED, IT JUST SITS
18:59:32 EMPTY AND DOESN'T GET APPRECIATED.
18:59:34 SO MY VISION IS TO BRING NEIGHBORS TOGETHER BY CREATING A
18:59:39 FAMILY FRIENDLY RELAXING COVERED OPEN-AIR VENUE FOR LOTS
18:59:44 OF GREEN SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY GOOD FOOD, BEER,
18:59:48 OUTDOOR GAMES AND ENTERTAINMENT.
18:59:51 THE DESIGN OF THE OPEN PAIR RESTAURANT WAS DRIVEN WITH
18:59:53 THE SOUL INTENT TO PRESERVE AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS
18:59:57 POSSIBLE.
19:00:02 BY LOCATING IT AS CLOSE AS I COULD TO NEBRASKA AVENUE, I
19:00:08 AM UNABLE TO PRESERVE GREEN SPACE BUT ALSO OFFER
19:00:14 EXTENSIVE BUFFER TO MY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS WHO
19:00:18 PURCHASED ADJACENT TO A COMMERCIALLY INTENSIVE ZONED LOT.
19:00:21 SO CODE ONLY REQUIRES THAT I OFFER A 15 FOOT BUFFER.
19:00:27 BUT FROM THE RESTAURANT, I AM OFFERING MORE THAN 77-FOOT
19:00:32 BUFFER TO MY NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST, 63-FOOT BUFFER TO THE
19:00:38 NORTHEAST, AND 55 TO THE NORTH.
19:00:45 I'LL LET MY ARCHITECT SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS.
19:00:49 BUT IN A NUTSHELL, IT'S THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS DRIVING
19:00:53 THE PARKING WAIVERS THAT I AM HAVING TO REQUEST.
19:00:57 IF I FENCE THAT OFF, IF I FENCE ALL THIS OFF AND JUST PUT
19:01:01 MY RESTAURANT HERE, I WOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK YOU FOR A
19:01:04 WAIVER.
19:01:04 MY RESTAURANT ITSELF ONLY REQUIRES 17 SPACES, AND I AM
19:01:09 ABLE TO OFFER 20.
19:01:13 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I MENTIONED EARLIER ENCOURAGES
19:01:16 RESIDENTS TO BIKE, WALK, BIKE AND WALK, AND REQUIRES NEW
19:01:20 DEVELOPMENT TO INSTALL LARGE SIDEWALKS SO AS TO REDUCE
19:01:23 THE NEED FOR PARKING IN OUR AREA.
19:01:26 I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S
19:01:29 WEBSITE, AND THERE ARE 835 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES
19:01:32 WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THIS LOCATION.
19:01:36 AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 112 APARTMENT UNITS GOING
19:01:41 UP RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD FROM ME.
19:01:43 I WANT TO OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE TO THOSE
19:01:47 NEIGHBORS FROM THE CAR LOTS AND HOURLY MOTELS THAT THEY
19:01:51 HAVE LIVED WITH FOR SO MANY YEARS.
19:01:53 THANK YOU.
19:01:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:01:56 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:02:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:02:03 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
19:02:05 AND -- EXCUSE ME.
19:02:07 THANK YOU.
19:02:08 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
19:02:10 I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.
19:02:14 NUMBER ONE IS THE EGRESS TO THE RESTAURANT.
19:02:18 IT'S BECAUSE NEBRASKA IS AN ARTERIAL AND YOU CAN'T HAVE
19:02:22 COMING TO AND FROM NEBRASKA, IT HAS TO COME THROUGH A
19:02:26 RESIDENTIAL STREET?
19:02:27 IS THAT A YES?
19:02:29 >> CORRECT.
19:02:31 WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY, WE TRIED TO HAVE ACCESS
19:02:35 ONTO NEBRASKA AVENUE, AND FDOT WOULD NOT ALLOW IT.
19:02:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION
19:02:42 INCLUDING THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES?
19:02:45 >> WELL, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW,
19:02:49 THEY WOULD START AT FIVE BECAUSE MY BUSINESS DOESN'T
19:02:51 CLOSE UNTIL FIVE.
19:02:53 SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU WORST CASE SCENARIO BECAUSE IF
19:03:02 WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE BUSY THEN OBVIOUSLY I AM NOT GOING
19:03:04 TO STAY OPEN BUT I WANTED TO -- SO WHAT I'M ANTICIPATING
19:03:14 IF WE ARE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL, WHEN WE ARE WILDLY
19:03:17 SUCCESSFUL, WOULD BE TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS, 5 P.M. TO
19:03:22 10 P.M., THURSDAYS AND FRIDAYS, 5 P.M. TO MIDNIGHT,
19:03:26 SATURDAYS 7 A.M. TO MIDNIGHT, ASSUMING THAT WE CAN SERVE
19:03:29 BREAKFAST, AND SUNDAYS 7 A.M. TO 11 P.M.
19:03:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE -- WILL THE AREAS HAVE OUTSIDE
19:03:36 ACTIVITIES, AMPLIFIED MUSIC?
19:03:39 >> NO, SIR.
19:03:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FANTASTIC.
19:03:44 HERE IS MY MAIN CONCERN, BECAUSE -- AND THANK YOU FOR NOT
19:03:47 HAVING SHUFFLEBOARD.
19:03:50 YOU WILL HAVE A CROQUET AND BOCCE BALL, AND AGAIN THANK
19:03:54 YOU.
19:03:55 THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME NOISE FROM WHEN PEOPLE MAKE
19:04:00 GOOD SCORES OR MAKE GOOD MOVES.
19:04:02 IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN ENHANCE OR ARE WILLING TO
19:04:05 ENHANCE THE BUFFER BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND THE
19:04:10 RESIDENTS THAT GOING TO BE YOUR NEIGHBORS?
19:04:13 WHETHER IT BE FOLIAGE OR SOMETHING THAT WILL CUT DOWN THE
19:04:17 NOISE?
19:04:18 >> SURE.
19:04:19 IT'S FAIRLY DENSELY FOLIAGED ALREADY IN THAT 15-FOOT
19:04:25 BUFFER?
19:04:25 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
19:04:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM TALKING ABOUT THE METAL FENCE THAT
19:04:30 YOU HAVE NOW, SOMETHING ALONG THERE TO EVEN DEAD TEN
19:04:33 NOISE A LITTLE MORE.
19:04:34 >> ON THE INSIDE OF THE METAL FENCE?
19:04:37 I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT, SURE.
19:04:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM JUST ASKING IF -- AGAIN, I WAS
19:04:42 CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING.
19:04:44 THAT WAS MAJOR TO ME.
19:04:45 BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE GOING TO BE ASKING PEOPLE ARE GOING
19:04:48 TO COME, ARE NOT GOING TO WALK TO YOUR ESTABLISHMENT TO
19:04:51 PARK ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREET.
19:04:53 AGAIN THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE, MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO BRING
19:04:56 UP LATER ON.
19:04:58 BUT WITH THIS LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THERE'S GOING TO
19:05:03 BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING TO YOUR RESTAURANT.
19:05:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:05:05 >> THANK YOU.
19:05:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OH, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR BUILDING
19:05:10 OUT THAT SIDEWALK AND MAKING IT TEN FAT DEEP.
19:05:13 THANK YOU.
19:05:14 NOTHING MORE, MR. CHAIR.
19:05:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN.
19:05:18 CITY ATTORNEY.
19:05:19 JUST WITH REGARD TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AND
19:05:21 ANSWERED, WITH REGARD TO THE RELEVANT HOURS OF OPERATION,
19:05:24 JUST A REMINDER THAT IT'S A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED SO THE
19:05:27 RELATIVE QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU WISH TO KNOW WHAT IS
19:05:33 RESTRICTED OR ALLOWED UNDER THE SITE PLAN, IRRESPECTIVE
19:05:36 OF THE TESTIMONY, WHICH I'M SURE WAS GIVEN IN GOOD FAITH.
19:05:39 WHAT DOES CONTROL IS THE SITE PLAN AND IF YOU WISH TO
19:05:41 KNOW WHAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE
19:05:44 TO ASK THAT OF STAFF.
19:05:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
19:05:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:05:49 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:05:49 MR. GUDES.
19:05:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
19:06:04 >> THE QUESTION THAT I HEARD BEING ASKED WAS WOULD I HAVE
19:06:07 ANY AMPLIFIED SOUND OUT IN THE GAME AREA.
19:06:10 AND NO, SIR, I WILL NOT.
19:06:11 IN THE RESTAURANT ITSELF, ON SATURDAY AFTERNOONS, SUNDAY
19:06:16 AFTERNOONS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC, YEAH.
19:06:22 I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY OPEN IT UP -- MY DAUGHTER IS A
19:06:26 FABULOUS MUSICIAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE
19:06:30 COMMUNITY, IF THEY WANTED TO DO A PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW,
19:06:33 AT THE RESTAURANT.
19:06:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH APARTMENTS GOING UP.
19:06:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP AGAIN.
19:06:48 AS REGARD THE TO REGARDS TO THE PREVIOUS COMMENT, MR.
19:06:52 GUDES, WITH REGARD TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THE
19:06:56 RESTRICTION, IF ANY, AS TO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND CANNOT
19:07:00 BE ENFORCED UNLESS IT IS ON THE SITE PLAN SO ULTIMATELY
19:07:03 AGAIN IT IS THE SITE PLAN THAT CONTROLS AND TRAVELS WITH
19:07:07 THE LAND.
19:07:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
19:07:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
19:07:10 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:07:11 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
19:07:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
19:07:18 NOT TO KICK A DEAD HORSE OR ANYTHING, BUT MR. SHELBY, OUR
19:07:21 ATTORNEY, IS ALWAYS CORRECT IN REGARDS TO THE FACT THAT
19:07:23 WE NEED TO NAIL THESE THINGS DOWN.
19:07:25 AND NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT, SO
19:07:30 YOU KNOW WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE FUTURE, SO YOUR NEIGHBORS
19:07:33 KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED OR HASN'T BEEN APPROVED.
19:07:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
19:07:38 MR. DINGFELDER, FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.
19:07:40 BUT MY ADVICE WOULD BE, BEFORE YOU FORMULATE ANY OPINION,
19:07:47 AS TO POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS, YOU DO HAVE THE
19:07:50 OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR NOT ONLY FROM THE PETITIONER BUT FROM
19:07:53 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
19:07:53 SO BEFORE YOU FORMULATE YOUR OPINION, AND ADDRESS THAT,
19:07:57 CERTAINLY THE PETITIONER WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
19:07:59 ADDRESS ALL THESE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON REBUTTAL.
19:08:03 YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE YOU FORMULATE
19:08:06 ANY OPINION OR MAKE ANY REQUEST OF THE PETITIONER BECAUSE
19:08:08 THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BASIS TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
19:08:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
19:08:13 I WON'T MAKE THAT SPECIFIC REQUEST AND I HEAR YOUR
19:08:17 CONCERN, MR. SHELBY.
19:08:18 I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONCERN.
19:08:21 WHILE WE ARE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC, PERHAPS GET
19:08:26 TOGETHER WITH YOUR TEAM AND THINK ABOUT WHAT SORT OF
19:08:28 HOURS YOU MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE WITH IN TERMS OF HOURS OF
19:08:31 OPERATION THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE SITE PLAN, HOURS OF MIX,
19:08:35 AMPLIFIED MUSIC ANYWHERE WITHIN THE SITE, AS MR. CITRO
19:08:39 POINTED OUT, AND ALSO -- AND I'M SURE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A
19:08:43 PROBLEM WITH THIS SINCE YOU ALREADY CONSTRUCTED IT, THE
19:08:45 SITE PLAN IS A LITTLE VAGUE, AND NUMBER 2 IN REGARD TO
19:08:50 THE FENCE, IT JUST SAYING COMPLYING WITH THE CODE BUT YOU
19:08:54 HAVE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED WHAT APPEARS TO BE A 6-FOOT
19:08:56 METAL FENCE AROUND THE WHOLE PERIMETER.
19:08:58 SO MAYBE WE CAN TIGHTEN UP THAT IN THE NOTES AS WELL.
19:09:02 BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL CARRY ON WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
19:09:05 >> MY ARCHITECT IS HERE AS WELL.
19:09:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WE CAN HEAR FROM HIM AS WELL AS
19:09:15 YOU LATER.
19:09:16 >> I'LL BE BRIEF.
19:09:18 BRET B-R-E-T, A-C-Z-A-R-E-L-L-I, WORKING -- THE ARCHITECT
19:09:25 WORKING WITH ANGIE, ACTUALLY THE RENOVATION FOR THE
19:09:28 BUILDING AND NOW COMING BACK TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
19:09:31 I'LL BE BRIEF.
19:09:32 SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WERE GOING
19:09:35 TO BE THE ACCESS AND EGRESS FROM THE SITE WHICH IS FROM
19:09:39 NORTH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT WAS THE FDOT FURNISHED US
19:09:44 DOWN ON THE NEBRASKA AVENUE ENTRANCE AND EGRESS.
19:09:48 EXISTING BUILDINGS THESE HERE.
19:09:49 SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO REALLY FOCUS ON WERE THE
19:09:52 NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND THE NUMBER OF THE
19:09:55 OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF THE AB AREA, AND ALSO THE NUMBER OF
19:10:01 PEOPLE THAT THAT THEN REQUIRES BY CODE TO BE LISTED.
19:10:09 AS PART OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
19:10:11 DOING IS RESTAURANT IN THIS AREA AS ANGIE INDICATED, AND
19:10:16 THAT RESTAURANT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS JUST UNDER 2800 SQUARE
19:10:20 FEET.
19:10:22 THAT IS 1600 SQUARE FEET OF SEATING AREA, AND THE BALANCE
19:10:25 1200 SQUARE FEET OF SERVICE, KITCHEN, CIRCULATION,
19:10:32 RESTROOM AND STAGING AREA FOR THE RESTAURANT.
19:10:38 THE BALANCE OF THE AREA IS A GAMES AREA, AND THAT IS,
19:10:44 WITH ALL IN THE VISION, WAS ACCESSORY TO THE USE OF THE
19:10:48 RESTAURANT, ANCILLARY USE, THAT IF YOU WERE COMING TO THE
19:10:52 RESTAURANT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE SAME AREA BUT YOU
19:10:54 WOULDN'T USE THE GAMES AREA SOLELY COME THERE TO USE THE
19:10:59 GAMES.
19:11:00 SO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, TOE MEET CITY OF TAMPA
19:11:08 PARKING REGULATIONS, IT ASSUMES AS MARY INDICATED THAT WE
19:11:13 CANNOT SHARE USES.
19:11:14 SO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OFFICE PARKING OF WILL 8 SPACES
19:11:20 THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES.
19:11:21 THE RESTAURANT FOR A 2785 SQUARE FOOT USABLE FLOOR AREA
19:11:27 REQUIRES 17 SPACES, AND THEN BECAUSE THE RECREATION AREA
19:11:33 DOES HAVE THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, SO SOMEONE CAN TAKE ONE
19:11:40 PARTICULAR BEVERAGE AND GO PLAY A GAME, THE CITY -- WE
19:11:44 TALKED THROUGH IDENTIFYING THAT AS A PRIVATE COMMERCIAL
19:11:47 RECREATIONAL FACILITY, AND THAT REQUIRES 20 SPACES ONTO
19:11:52 ITSELF.
19:11:52 SO, THEREFORE, THAT'S HOW WE GET TO 45 SPACES.
19:11:56 THE REALITY OF THAT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF PEOPLE --
19:12:01 EXCUSE ME, THE RESTAURANT SQUARE FOOTAGE AT HOW THAT
19:12:04 BRINGS US TO A NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS.
19:12:07 WE HAVE THE OFFICE, THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT SEATING, THE
19:12:10 PROPOSED RESTAURANT COOLER KITCHEN, SERVICE AREA, AND THE
19:12:15 RESTAURANT AREA, A AND THIS WHAT THAT IS 24 PEOPLE IN THE
19:12:19 OFFICE BUILDING. THIS IS BY CODE.
19:12:21 24 PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE BUILDING.
19:12:24 RESTAURANT KITCHEN, ALL OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS THAT
19:12:26 GO WITH A RESTAURANT, 110 PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH WE ONLY HAVE
19:12:30 60 SEATS SHOWN IN OUR PLAN.
19:12:33 AND THEN 120 PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED FOR THE RECREATION
19:12:38 VIEWING AND COURTS AREA WHICH IS 254.
19:12:41 WE FEEL THAT THAT 110 AND THAT 120 ARE THE SAME PEOPLE.
19:12:47 SO IN REALITY, WE WILL NOT BE HAVING 254 PEOPLE AND 45
19:12:52 CARS, WE WILL BE HAVING WHAT CODE SAYS IS ALLOWED FOR,
19:12:58 RESTAURANT, WHICH IS 17 PARKING SPACES BASED ON THE CODE,
19:13:04 6 PER 1,000 SQUARE FEET.
19:13:06 THE OFFICE WILL NOT BE USED DURING THE RESTAURANT HOURS.
19:13:09 AND THE PRIVATE COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITY, SO
19:13:14 GIVEN THAT WAY OF LOOKING AT HOW IT WILL ACTUALLY BE USED
19:13:20 WE ARE REQUIRED 17 SPACES AND WE PROVIDED 20.
19:13:23 SO AS ANGIE SAID BEFORE, IF THE RESTAURANT WERE THE ONLY
19:13:28 THING SITTING THERE, WE COULDN'T HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING
19:13:31 AND WE FENCED OFF THE REST OF THE GREEN SPACE WE WOULD
19:13:36 STILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 17 SPACES.
19:13:39 I THINK THAT ANGIE DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THE
19:13:42 VISION AND WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE RESTAURANT.
19:13:45 I THINK I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLOSE MY PART WITH WE HAVE
19:13:49 THREE FUNCTIONS ON THE SITE BY CODE, BUT WE REALLY ONLY
19:13:52 HAVE ONE DURING THE DAY, WHICH IS ONE DURING MONDAY
19:13:55 THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:30 TO 4:30, 5:00, WHICH IS OFFICE.
19:13:59 AND THEN RESTAURANT FROM IN THE HOURS OF ANGIE HAD
19:14:03 MENTIONED, AFTER THE BUSINESS CLOSES, AND THAT THAT GREEN
19:14:07 SPACE THAT WE SEE IS REALLY NOT A SEPARATE USE BUT IS AN
19:14:14 ANCILLARY USE OR BENEFIT GOING TO THAT RESTAURANT AND
19:14:17 HAVING THAT ABILITY TO USE THAT GREEN SPACE.
19:14:21 WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU MUST APPROVE WHATEVER THE ZONING
19:14:24 CODE HAS.
19:14:25 THAT'S WHY THE PARKING REQUIREMENT NEEDS TO BE REDUCED
19:14:29 FROM 45 WHICH IS WHAT THE ZONING CODE SAYS TO 20.
19:14:33 WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE COMFORT OF THAT, 20 IS ADEQUATE
19:14:38 BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION OF HOW THE SITE WILL ACTUALLY BE
19:14:40 USED.
19:14:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:14:42 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:14:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
19:14:46 VERY COMPREHENSIVE AS ALWAYS.
19:14:48 IN REGARD TO YOUR INGRESS-EGRESS POINT ON NORTH STREET,
19:14:53 IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING LOOKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
19:14:55 BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET THERE?
19:14:59 IT'S RELATIVELY NARROW RIGHT-OF-WAY -- WELL, THE
19:15:02 RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 60 FEET WHICH IS OKAY, BUT THE ROAD CURVE
19:15:06 TO CURVE IS LIKE 20 FEET.
19:15:09 IS THERE COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET THERE?
19:15:11 OR IS THERE RESIDENTIAL OR WHAT?
19:15:13 >> ACROSS THE STREET IS THE PD THAT IS THE 112-UNIT
19:15:18 APARTMENT BUILDING.
19:15:26 I HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH.
19:15:29 THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
19:15:31 I DID NOT BRING A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS WHERE THEIR
19:15:34 INGRESS AND EGRESS IS FROM THERE SITE IS.
19:15:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT CONCERNED.
19:15:38 I WAS CONCERNED THERE WAS A SINGLE-FAMILY ACROSS THE
19:15:41 STREET THERE.
19:15:41 >> 112 UNITS, I THINK THE REPORT SAYS THAT 22 OF THEM
19:15:46 OVERLOOK THE SITE.
19:15:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
19:15:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
19:15:53 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:15:54 NO?
19:15:55 I THINK NOT.
19:15:56 ALL RIGHT.
19:15:57 IS THAT YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR?
19:16:03 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION STAFF, FOR
19:16:05 CITY COUNCIL AND FOR THE APPLICANT.
19:16:07 STAFF DID WORK AND HAD DISCUSSION DURING OUR REVIEW
19:16:11 PROCESS ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
19:16:13 AND I STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND IT IS ON THE SITE
19:16:16 PLAN, THAT THE APPLICANT AGREED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
19:16:19 CHAPTER 14 FOR HOURS OF OPERATION REGARDING THE ALCOHOL
19:16:23 SALES.
19:16:23 SO THE CHAPTER 14 STANDARDS ARE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY,
19:16:27 7 A.M. TO 3 A.M., AND SUNDAY 11 A.M. TO 3 A.M.
19:16:32 SO THAT ISSUE HAD ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
19:16:35 IT CAN CERTAINLY BE AMENDED, BUT THAT IS CURRENTLY WHAT
19:16:39 IS STATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
19:16:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:16:45 ALL RIGHT.
19:16:45 WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
19:16:48 IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND.
19:16:52 ALL RIGHT.
19:16:56 YOU WERE NOT?
19:16:57 OKAY.
19:17:01 THEY CAME IN FROM THE OUTSIDE.
19:17:03 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
19:17:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
19:17:07 WE WILL BEGIN WITH OUR FIRST SPEAKER.
19:17:09 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT FOR THE RECORD
19:17:11 PLEASE.
19:17:11 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
19:17:14 MY NAME IS HOLLY CLEMMENS, HOLLY, C-L-E-M-M-O-N-S.
19:17:23 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL
19:17:25 TONIGHT.
19:17:26 I'M HERE AS BOTH A FORMER CLIENT AND A FRIEND TO SPEAK TO
19:17:30 YOU ON BEHALF OF ANGIE BRITTAIN AND THE MULLET BAR AND
19:17:34 GRILL.
19:17:36 MS. BRITTAIN'S ORGANIZATION BUILT TEN YEARS AGO.
19:17:41 SHE WAS THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL WHO POURED HERSELF
19:17:45 INTO EVERY FACET OF OUR PROJECT.
19:17:47 WE HAVE ENJOYED MANY TIMES TOGETHER WITH FAMILY AND
19:17:50 FRIENDS OVER THOSE TEN YEARS, AND WERE VERY PLEASED AT
19:17:54 HOW THE PROJECT TURNED OUT.
19:17:57 ANGIE HAS ALSO BEEN MY LIFE-LONG FRIEND FOR 30 YEARS.
19:18:01 FOR THREE DECADES, I HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT AWE OF BOTH
19:18:05 HER CREATIVE GENERAL USE AS WELL AS HER CAPABILITIES OF
19:18:08 BRINGING HER VISION TO FRUITION.
19:18:11 MRS. BRITTAIN'S BUSINESS PLAN AS YOU HEARD FOR YOURSELF
19:18:15 FOR THE ROLLING MULLET HAS BEEN METICULOUSLY THOUGHT OUT
19:18:19 TO THE SMALLEST DETAIL.
19:18:21 AS YOU ALSO HEARD, THE COMMUNITY OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAS
19:18:24 NOT ALWAYS ENJOYED THE BEST REPUTATION BETWEEN MEMBERS OF
19:18:28 CAR LOTS, RENT BY THE HOUR MOTELS, AND HIGH CRIME.
19:18:34 THE COMMUNITY OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WILL BENEFIT FROM THE
19:18:37 GREEN SPACE, FAMILY-FRIENDLY, INCLUSIVE GATHERING SPOT
19:18:42 WHERE WE CAN ENJOY GOOD FOOD, LOCAL CRAFT BEER, IN THE
19:18:46 COMPANY OF OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR NEIGHBORS.
19:18:49 THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF A WOMAN-OWNED AND
19:18:52 OPERATED LOCAL BUSINESS THAT IF APPROVED WILL TRULY BE A
19:18:57 BOOM TO THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.
19:19:00 THANK YOU.
19:19:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:19:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
19:19:05 I NEED TO ASK YOU A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
19:19:07 >> YES, SIR.
19:19:08 >> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT TOM BRADY BEING A BUCCANEER?
19:19:11 [ LAUGHTER ]
19:19:17 MR. CHAIRMAN, WE KNOW EACH OTHER AND SHE'S A PAST FRIEND
19:19:21 FROM WAY BACK.
19:19:22 >> MR. CITRO, I AM NOT GOING TO LIE TO YOU, SIR.
19:19:26 I HAVE SOME MIXED FEELINGS.
19:19:27 I AM STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT WHICH IS RATHER
19:19:31 THAN A FOOTBALL FAN I WORE MY BASEBALL MASK WITH THE
19:19:35 TAMPA BAY RAYS.
19:19:38 WE CAN TALK FURTHER IF AND WHEN THE FASTBALL SEASON
19:19:41 RESUMES.
19:19:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
19:19:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:19:45 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
19:19:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS?
19:19:56 >> DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SPEAKERS WE HAVE SPEAKING ON THIS
19:19:58 ISSUE?
19:19:59 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
19:20:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY DON'T YOU ASK FOR A SHOW OF HANDS?
19:20:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS IF YOU
19:20:09 ARE SPEAKING?
19:20:11 ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT.
19:20:15 ALL RIGHT.
19:20:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OCCASIONALLY, THE CHAIR WILL REMAINED
19:20:22 FOLKS THAT IF IT STARTS SOUNDING REDUNDANT, YOU DON'T
19:20:26 NECESSARILY ALL HAVE TO TAKE UP YOUR ENTIRE THREE
19:20:29 MINUTES, WHATEVER.
19:20:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SO IF YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW.
19:20:33 GO AHEAD AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT.
19:20:36 >> DANA PHILT, PHILP.
19:20:45 I'M A 33 YEAR RESIDENT OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:20:49 YOU OWN THREE PROPERTIES IN THE 33634 AREA CODE.
19:20:55 I AM HERE TO SPEAK FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:20:58 THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.
19:21:00 IT SHOULD BE APPROVED.
19:21:01 IT'S GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
19:21:05 I HAVE BEEN IN QUARANTINE FOR MONTHS.
19:21:07 I HAVE BEEN OUT FOR ONE TIME FOR LUNCH ON MY BIRTHDAY ON
19:21:15 FLORIDA AVENUE.
19:21:17 BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT.
19:21:20 THEY ARE BRINGING IN A FISHMONGERER.
19:21:23 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FRESH GROUPER SANDWICHES.
19:21:26 AND A COLD BEER AND NOTHING DO BE BETTER.
19:21:29 THIS OLD GIRL IS GOING TO RIDE HER BICYCLE THERE.
19:21:32 SHOULD YOU APPROVE IT.
19:21:33 AND SO WILL MANY OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:21:35 I WALK TWO TO THREE MAILS EVERY DAY.
19:21:37 I BICYCLE AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.
19:21:41 PLEASE APPROVE THIS.
19:21:43 IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
19:21:44 IT'S GOOD FOR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:21:48 SOME HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD.
19:21:49 THIS IS GOOD.
19:21:50 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
19:21:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:21:52 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
19:21:53 NAME AND PLEASE SPELL IT FOR THE RECORD.
19:21:55 >> CHRISTINE HUDSON, H-U-D-S-O-N.
19:22:02 I AM GOING TO ECHO WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS SAID.
19:22:07 AND WHAT SHE'S DONE ON NEBRASKA AVENUE IS PHENOMENAL.
19:22:17 AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:22:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:22:24 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
19:22:25 >> THE FIRST QUESTION OF TOM BRADY AND THE BUCCANEERS?
19:22:35 [ LAUGHTER ]
19:22:37 I'M WILLING TO CONVERT.
19:22:40 OKAY.
19:22:41 I TOOK MY 15 SECOND THERE.
19:22:43 HI.
19:22:43 MY NAME IS SUSAN ROCHE.
19:22:45 I WANT TO GET THAT OUT.
19:22:47 FIRST THING NAME IS S-U-S-A-N R-O-C-H-E.
19:22:55 AND I LIVE ABOUT A HALF MILE FROM WHERE YOU GUYS ARE
19:22:57 GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ON.
19:22:58 I HAVE KNOWN ANGIE FOR ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS AND
19:23:01 BECAUSE OF ANGIE, I ACTUALLY MOVED TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:23:04 IT WAS HER ENCOURAGEMENT AND HER PHILANTHROPIC THINGS
19:23:08 SHE'S DONE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BROUGHT ME TO
19:23:12 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND BEING A BOSTON GIRL.
19:23:16 SO I ALSO STARTED TALKING TO A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF
19:23:20 MARVIN KNIGHT WHO ASKED ME WHAT WAS ON MY SHIRT AND
19:23:23 APPARENTLY HE OWNS THE ORIENTAL FISH COMPANY, AGAIN NOT
19:23:27 FROM TAMPA, BUT NICE ENOUGH GUY AND HE WANTED TO BE SURE
19:23:31 TO LET YOU KNOW THAT HE IS ALL FOR THIS.
19:23:33 SO THANK YOU, MARVIN, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME OUTSIDE.
19:23:37 THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS THERE'S -- PLENTY OF
19:23:47 THINGS I CAN TELL YOU.
19:23:48 HOWEVER, IF I WANT TO GO TO NEBRASKA THE ONLY REASON I GO
19:23:51 THERE IS TO GO TO PUBLIX.
19:23:53 IT WOULD BE NICE TO WALK LESS THAN TEN MINUTES FROM WHERE
19:23:55 I LIVE TO BE SOCIAL WITH OTHER PEOPLE, LIKE THE 112 UNITS
19:24:00 THAT'S COMING IN THERE.
19:24:01 I'M A VERY SOCIAL PERSON AS YOU PROBABLY REALIZE
19:24:04 WESTBOUND ME TALKING TO MR. MARVIN.
19:24:05 WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY?
19:24:08 SHE IS A FEMALE OWNED BUSINESS THAT I THINK SPEAKS
19:24:11 VOLUMES.
19:24:11 I THINK WE NEED MORE FEMALE OWNED BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
19:24:15 AND I HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST.
19:24:18 AGAIN, GO TOM BRADY.
19:24:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU HAVE MARVIN KNIGHT'S
19:24:23 APPROVAL.
19:24:23 >> I DO.
19:24:26 [ LAUGHTER ]
19:24:33 SO THE NAME THE ROLLING MULLET, HE ASKED WHERE THE FISH
19:24:38 WERE COMING FROM.
19:24:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:24:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
19:24:42 IF YOU COULD GO TO THAT ONE.
19:24:45 >> MULLSHA, MALCAR, AND I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
19:24:57 NANCY -- ANGIE TO SUPPORT HER CONCEPT FOR THE ROLLING
19:25:03 MULLET AND WILL BE A TRUE VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO THE
19:25:11 COMMUNITY, BUT TO ALSO TELL YOU ABOUT ANGIE BRITTAIN.
19:25:16 SHE IS A -- A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT.
19:25:23 SHE KEEPS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AND WELCOMING AND BRING IT TO
19:25:33 THE OLD AND NEW SPIRIT.
19:25:37 ANGIE BRITTAIN, I KNOW HER AS A PROFESSIONAL, A MOTHER,
19:25:41 CARETAKER, FRIEND, COMMUNITY, SERVER, MENTOR AND SHE'S A
19:25:50 HERO WITH NO METALS.
19:25:52 SHE GIVES BACK CONTINUOUSLY DAY IN, DAY OUT, AND THE JOY
19:25:59 SHE RECEIVES FROM DOING THAT FOR OTHERS.
19:26:02 SHE'S PASSIONATE THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING SHE DOES.
19:26:05 SHE IS A BEAUTIFUL PERSON, AND ALL THE DETAILS OF HER
19:26:10 LIFE, AND IN 2013 SHE STARTED A PROGRAM CALLED BUILDING
19:26:15 THINGS THAT SHE PARTNERED WITH, WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS,
19:26:22 CHILDREN TO OUR COMMUNITY, CONSTRUCTION, AND POTENTIAL
19:26:25 CAREER OF KEEPING SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THRIVING, TO KEEP
19:26:28 BUILDING OUR COMMUNITY.
19:26:31 AND BY LEARNING A CUSTOM TRADE.
19:26:34 THE FIRST YEAR IN THE DRIVE, WE COLLECTED AND DONATED
19:26:39 8,300 CANNED GOODS, AND THAT'S FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY
19:26:46 DIRECTLY IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:26:48 AND SEEING THROUGH THE ROLLING MULLET VENUE PARTNERING
19:26:55 WITH IT.
19:26:56 IT WILL BE MORE THAN A VENUE.
19:27:00 IT WILL BE HER AS A COMMUNITY.
19:27:02 AND IF ANGIE IS HALF AS PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT AS ANYTHING
19:27:07 SHE IS IN HER LIFE, IT WILL BE AMAZING, DOING AMAZING
19:27:12 THINGS WITHIN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.
19:27:13 AND GIVING BACK.
19:27:15 AND ANGIE DOES NOT STOP.
19:27:18 SHE IS FULL THROTTLE IN EVERYTHING SHE DOES.
19:27:20 AND I SUPPORT THE ROLLING MULLET AND I SUPPORT ANGIE.
19:27:25 AND GOING FORWARD WITH THAT.
19:27:27 THANK YOU.
19:27:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:27:28 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
19:27:29 >> BEEN WALKER W-A-L-K-E-R, HERE TO FULLY SUPPORT ANGIE
19:27:39 IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
19:27:41 AS I UNDERSTAND, VERY INTERESTING FOR THE PARKING
19:27:45 REQUIREMENTS.
19:27:46 NOT ONLY DUE TO THE MISUSE THAT WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER.
19:27:50 AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER THAT LIVES IN THE EMERGING
19:27:53 TECHNOLOGY STAGE WITH SHARED VEHICLES LIKE UBER AND LYFT,
19:28:00 I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE FUTURE, A LOT OF THESE PARKING
19:28:04 REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU SEE TODAY ARE GOING TO BE NULL AND
19:28:07 VOID AND WON'T BE USED BECAUSE OF THE PREVALENCE OF
19:28:10 SHARED VEHICLES IN THE FUTURE SO I DON'T SEE THAT PARKING
19:28:13 REQUIREMENT BEING AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
19:28:15 SO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ANGIE IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
19:28:19 THANK YOU.
19:28:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
19:28:20 NEXT SPEAKER.
19:28:21 >> MIGUEL PENA, A MEMBER FOR SEVEN YEARS IN THE SEMINOLE
19:28:27 HEIGHTS AREA AND I LIVE TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED
19:28:30 SITE.
19:28:31 AND I USED TO AVOID WALKING BY BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A MESS
19:28:34 AND JUST FELT DANGEROUS.
19:28:38 THE DIFFERENCE IS A NIGHT AND DAY AND I AM TRULY WAITING
19:28:41 TO WALK BY AND HAVE A BEER AND SOMETHING TO EAT EVERY
19:28:44 ONCE IN A WHILE.
19:28:45 SHE'S GOT MY FULL SUPPORT AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
19:28:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:28:50 NEXT SPEAKER.
19:28:51 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT.
19:28:52 >> ELLIE, LAAGT.
19:28:57 I'M A SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PRESIDENT.
19:29:00 THE APPLICANT IS WELL KNOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE
19:29:01 SHE'S GOT A GOOD REPUTATION.
19:29:03 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS DOES TWO THINGS, CRAFT BEER, AND WE ARE
19:29:08 EXPERTS IN CAR PALLING, AND THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS GOING
19:29:11 TO IMPROVE A BLIGHTED AREA ON NEBRASKA AVENUE, SO THIS
19:29:16 APPLICANT HAS OUR SUPPORT.
19:29:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:29:20 NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
19:29:21 >> HELLO.
19:29:24 I AM A RESIDENT OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SINCE 2001.
19:29:28 I WALK EVERYWHERE.
19:29:29 IF YOU SEE ME WALKING, I'M WALKING AROUND WITH GIANT HAT.
19:29:32 I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA OF ANOTHER PLACE THAT
19:29:35 WE CAN WALK TO AND HAVE OUTDOOR SPACE.
19:29:39 AND SOMETHING TO DRINK AND SOCIALIZE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
19:29:42 I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING THAT WE CAN HAVE ON THE
19:29:45 NEBRASKA SIDE.
19:29:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:29:50 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
19:29:52 >> HI.
19:29:55 MY NAME IS RENE BENGOLD, A TAMPA BAY REALTOR.
19:30:01 I HAVE KNOWN ANGIE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND I FULLY SUPPORT
19:30:04 HER PROPOSAL.
19:30:05 AND I DON'T THINK ONE THING ANYONE HAS MENTIONED IN THIS
19:30:10 COVID AREA IS WHAT SHE'S PROPOSING IS GOING TO GIVE
19:30:14 SUPPORT TO RESTAURANTS WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING.
19:30:18 ALONG WITH THE CURRENT SPACE THAT SHE HAS, WHICH SHE HAS
19:30:22 A LOT OF PARKING, I THINK OVER 200 LINEAR FEET OF PARKING
19:30:26 OUTSIDE HER SPACE THAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO, BUT HER
19:30:30 RESTAURANT, I THINK NOTHING IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAS IT
19:30:32 WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO, HAVE A LOT OF ROOM, A LOT OF SPACE,
19:30:37 GOT MUCH MORE THAN 6-FOOT DISTANCING BETWEEN PEOPLE.
19:30:40 AND WE ALL SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ST. PETERSBURG AND
19:30:43 DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
19:30:44 YOU HAVE TO LIKE PUT YOUR TABLES OUTSIDE ON THE SIDEWALK
19:30:47 IN ORDER TO MAKE ROOM.
19:30:48 ANGIE DOESN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM AT ALL.
19:30:51 THIS IS GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT.
19:30:53 WE ALL KNOW HER AND LOVE HER.
19:30:56 IT'S LIKE EVERYONE NOW IS WORRIED ABOUT, WHERE DID K YOU
19:30:59 GO AND FEEL SAFE AND COMFORTABLE AND HAVE A GREAT PLACE,
19:31:02 ENGAGE AND ENTERTAIN AND HAVE A LOT OF DISTANCE BETWEEN
19:31:07 YOU AND THE NEXT PERSON BUT STILL ENJOY AND HAVE FUN AND
19:31:10 BE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND PARTNERS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
19:31:12 DO.
19:31:13 SO THAT'S WHAT'S VERY UNIQUE.
19:31:16 I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE ELSE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SO SHE WAS
19:31:20 SORT OF -- DIDN'T NOT THAT'S WHAT SHE HAD, BUT THAT'S
19:31:25 WHAT SHE HAS.
19:31:26 SHE HAS A LOT OF SPACE NO ONE ELSE HAS AND THE ABILITY TO
19:31:30 MAKE THIS WORK IN A COAST ENVIRONMENT.
19:31:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:31:34 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
19:31:35 >> MY NAME IS RICHARD TUTOR. I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR IN
19:31:43 TAMPA, FLORIDA FOR 36 YEARS.
19:31:47 T-U-T-O-R, LAST NAME.
19:31:51 I'M NOT A BEER DRINKER.
19:31:53 I DO LOVE FISH.
19:31:54 I AM JUST HERE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT HER BECAUSE I AM A
19:31:57 PERSON WHO WANTS TO SEE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SURVIVE.
19:32:00 I LOVE THE OLD, THE ANCIENT THINGS.
19:32:03 I LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
19:32:05 I LIKE THEM TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO THINGS.
19:32:09 THE HILLSBOROUGH, ALL THE LITTLE SMALL SHOPS, THEY ARE
19:32:12 THERE.
19:32:12 THAT'S A GOOD THING.
19:32:13 WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE I LIVED AT 1420 EAST HANNA.
19:32:19 LESS THAN A TEN-MINUTE WALK, AND I FOUND NOTHING WHEN I
19:32:21 LIVED HERE.
19:32:21 AND I MOVED HERE IN 1986.
19:32:24 SO FOR ME, THAT'S THE BEST.
19:32:29 WHEN I SEE SOMEONE COMING, I WANT THE BUSINESS TO GROW.
19:32:32 AND THAT IS A NICE AREA.
19:32:34 I ACTUALLY DROVE BY AND LOOKED AT IT AND I HAVE SEEN
19:32:37 EVERYTHING.
19:32:37 I HAVE SEEN THE PARKING.
19:32:38 I HAVE SEEN THE BUILDING COMING UP NEXT DOOR TO IT WHERE
19:32:40 A LOT OF APARTMENTS ARE COMING UP.
19:32:42 I DO A LOT OF RENOVATIONS IN THAT AREA.
19:32:45 IT'S A GREAT UPCOMING AREA.
19:32:47 SO I CAME JUST TO SUPPORT HER TONIGHT.
19:32:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:32:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:32:51 DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?
19:32:55 ONE MORE.
19:32:56 ONE MORE.
19:32:56 >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
19:33:08 MY NAME IS SUSAN KING, SUSAN, K-I-N-G, HERE WITH MY
19:33:14 HUSBAND ADRIENNE, AND WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT ANGIE AND
19:33:19 THE REQUEST.
19:33:20 WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION AND ALL OF THE
19:33:23 OTHER ASPECTS OF NEBRASKA AVENUE THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT
19:33:25 THIS EVENING.
19:33:26 WE HAVE SAT DOWN WITH ANGIE DIRECTLY AND DISCUSSED THE
19:33:31 DRAWINGS WITH HER PROPOSAL AND WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF
19:33:33 IT.
19:33:34 WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO OUR
19:33:36 NEIGHBORHOOD, GIVE US AGAIN SOMEPLACE THAT WE CAN SIT
19:33:39 OUTSIDE, ENJOY SOME BEVERAGE IN A FAMILY ATMOSPHERE BUT
19:33:43 ALSO HAVE A COLD BEER.
19:33:45 OUTDOOR SPACE IS VERY IMPORTANT IN OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
19:33:47 IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE RELOCATED FROM
19:33:50 CARROLLWOOD TO ENJOY NEW TAMPA AND LIVE ON THE
19:33:52 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
19:33:54 WE HAVE KNOWN ANGIE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND KNOW HER TO BE
19:33:57 AN EXTREMELY PROFICIENT BUSINESS PERSON BUT ALSO SOMEBODY
19:34:00 WHO GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
19:34:01 SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN AMAZING ADDITION TO OUR
19:34:04 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO BRING SUCCESS.
19:34:08 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
19:34:11 WE HOPE YOU DO APPROVE THE REQUEST AND HOPEFULLY SOMETIME
19:34:14 HAVE A COLD BEER WITH YOU AT THE ROLLING MULLET.
19:34:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:34:17 PETITIONER?
19:34:19 ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?
19:34:20 NO?
19:34:21 PETITIONER, YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP, FANNED THERE'S ANY
19:34:25 QUESTIONS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
19:34:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
19:34:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU ALL WANTED TO ADDRESS THE
19:34:36 ISSUES I RAISED BEFORE I START WITH MR. PORTER, IN REGARD
19:34:45 TO HOURS OF OPERATION, OR HOURS OF AMPLIFIED SOUND?
19:34:52 I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU YOUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW IT VERY
19:34:57 WELL AND I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
19:34:59 I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU ALSO -- I HAVE SEEN YOUR
19:35:03 CONSTRUCTION ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:35:04 VERY IMPRESSIVE.
19:35:05 BUT IN REGARDS TO THE PROBABLY 100 HOMES BEHIND YOU
19:35:10 BETWEEN YOU AND THE INTERSTATE, DOES DETER ME A LITTLE
19:35:14 BIT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THESE SUCCESSFUL ESTABLISHMENTS
19:35:17 ON NEBRASKA AND FLORIDA, EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THEM,
19:35:21 I'M EXCITED ABOUT THEM, I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE CITY
19:35:23 AND THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE SOME
19:35:28 STRAIN AND STRESS AS RELATED TO PARKING UP AND DOWN THE
19:35:31 STREET.
19:35:33 YOU KNOW, I SEE A LITTLE SIGNS THAT POP UP AND THAT KIND
19:35:40 OF THING SO I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING.
19:35:43 I HOPE YOU WILL MONITOR THAT AS THE OWNER.
19:35:47 AND WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS ON THAT.
19:35:50 AND PERHAPS WORK WITH THE CITY.
19:35:51 BECAUSE IF YOU SEE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, CALL THE CITY AND
19:35:54 MAYBE THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE ONE-SIDE STREET PARKING OR
19:35:58 THAT SORT OF THING.
19:35:59 BUT IN REGARD TO HOURS OF OPERATION, IF YOU HAVE -- I
19:36:05 HAVE NEVER BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE 3 A.M., YOU KNOW,
19:36:08 LIMIT, WHICH I THINK IS WAY TOO LATE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
19:36:11 HAVE A RESTAURANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:36:17 I THINK 3 A.M. IS NOT APPROPRIATE BUT I AM GLAD TO HEAR
19:36:20 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 10 AND 12.
19:36:22 MR. PORTER, YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
19:36:24 >> JIM PORTER: I'M AT THE POSITIVE PODIUM FOR QUESTIONS.
19:36:31 >> I CAN'T STAY UP TILL 3 A.M.
19:36:34 [ LAUGHTER ]
19:36:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU AND ME BOTH.
19:36:36 SO MR. PORTER, WOULD YOU GAYS LIKE TO GO ON THE RECORD
19:36:40 WITH SOME SPECIFIC HOURS OF OPERATION AND HOURS OF MUSIC,
19:36:45 AMPLIFIED MUSIC?
19:36:46 AND THAT WAY WE CAN PUT IT ON THE SITE PLAN AND NAIL IT
19:36:49 DOWN?
19:36:49 >> I'M COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.
19:36:54 I LISTED THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT I HOPE TO EXECUTE IF
19:36:57 WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON
19:36:59 THE SITE PLAN.
19:37:00 >> WE WILL DO THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF
19:37:03 POSSIBLE.
19:37:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T WE STATE IT ON THE RECORD
19:37:06 TO MAKE MR. SHELBY HAPPY, AND HAVE IT CLEAR?
19:37:09 >> MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, 5 TO 10 P.M.
19:37:23 THURSDAYS AND FRIDAYS, 5-MILLIMETER TO MIDNIGHT.
19:37:27 SATURDAY, 7 A.M. TO MIDNIGHT.
19:37:30 SUNDAYS, 7 A.M. TO 11 P.M.
19:37:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT
19:37:41 THIS IS JUST ME BEING A PAIN IN YOU KNOW WHAT, BECAUSE WE
19:37:46 DID HAVE AT LEAST ONE LETTER OF A NEIGHBOR, AND I DON'T
19:37:48 KNOW IN YOU SAW IT OR NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, EXPRESSED A
19:37:53 CONCERN ABOUT -- I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS PROPERTY
19:37:57 IS, IF IT'S NEARBY, EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE HOURS OF
19:38:00 OPERATION AND -- WE APPRECIATE THAT, AND AS LONG AS WE
19:38:05 MAIL IT DOWN.
19:38:06 >> JIM PORTER: THERE IS A LETTER FROM A PERSON DIRECTLY
19:38:11 IN BACK OF THE PROPERTY, AND SHE SAYS I LIVE DIRECTLY
19:38:15 BEHIND THE ESTABLISHMENT AND HAVE FULL SUPPORT.
19:38:17 IT'S IN THE RECORD ALREADY BUT I WILL PUT THAT BACK INTO
19:38:19 THE RECORD.
19:38:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, JIM.
19:38:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARY?
19:38:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
19:38:34 FOR SUNDAY, YOU CAN ONLY BEGIN SERVING ALCOHOL AT 11 A.M.
19:38:38 WE JUST WANTED --
19:38:40 >> WE JUST WANTED TO SERVE BREAKFAST.
19:38:42 >> MIMOSAS AND BLOODY MARYS DON'T START UNTIL 11 A.M.
19:38:49 >> THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL RELATE TO THE SALE OF
19:38:52 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
19:38:53 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
19:38:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN BE LIMITED DURING THE SAME
19:39:02 TIME PERIOD?
19:39:03 >> JIM PORTER: CORRECT.
19:39:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS LONG AS YOU SERVE HUSH PUPPIES,
19:39:07 I'M ALL FOR IT.
19:39:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
19:39:12 OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
19:39:15 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO STATE, WITH EVERYBODY
19:39:20 COMING OUT IN THE PANDEMIC AND YOU ARE ALL HERE TO
19:39:25 SUPPORT YOUR COMMUNITY, VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY WORE MASKS,
19:39:29 AND HERE TO SUPPORT THEIR COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO SAY
19:39:33 HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THAT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT,
19:39:36 ESPECIALLY YOU ALL ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF SOMETHING.
19:39:43 AND AGAIN THIS IS A PANDEMIC.
19:39:47 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
19:39:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND
19:39:50 THAT AND JUST SHOW THAT WE ALL HAVE OUR MASKS AS WELL,
19:39:55 AND WE USE THEM WHEN WE ARE OFF OF THE DAIS.
19:39:59 AND SINCE WE ARE SET UP WITH ABOUT TEN OR 12 FEET BETWEEN
19:40:04 EACH OF US, WE ARE NOT USING THE MASKS.
19:40:06 BUT WE HAVE THE MASKS TOO AND WE SUPPORT THE USE OF THE
19:40:08 MASK AND WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL WEARING THEM.
19:40:10 THANK YOU.
19:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:40:12 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:40:13 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST LOOKING AT YOUR T-SHIRTS.
19:40:15 ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE A GIANT OCTOPUS AT THE SITE?
19:40:19 [ LAUGHTER ]
19:40:20 >> WELL, WE HAVE A -- [OFF MICROPHONE.]
19:40:27 >> IT IS A MULLET.
19:40:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S NOT A HAIR CUT, IS IT?
19:40:54 [ LAUGHTER ]
19:41:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A MULLET IS NOT A FISH.
19:41:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU WANT A MOTION?
19:41:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE.
19:41:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCILOR TO RESEARCH
19:41:15 IT.
19:41:15 >> BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING I WILL COME BACK --
19:41:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A MULLET IS NOT A FISH.
19:41:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUB ELSE?
19:41:24 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
19:41:26 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:41:28 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
19:41:30 ANY OPPOSED?
19:41:31 ALL RIGHT.
19:41:31 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THIS?
19:41:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
19:41:40 I'LL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
19:41:44 READING, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2
19:41:47 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
19:41:50 PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND
19:41:53 WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
19:41:57 LOCATED AT 6401 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS
19:42:01 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT
19:42:04 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
19:42:08 REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
19:42:09 >> SECOND.
19:42:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
19:42:11 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
19:42:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
19:42:14 ANY OPPOSED?
19:42:14 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
19:42:17 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16th
19:42:20 AT 9:30 A.M.
19:42:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:42:23 [ APPLAUSE ]
19:42:26 >> WHOA, WHOA.
19:42:27 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AS EVERYBODY
19:42:30 LEAVES THE ROOM AND WE BRING PEOPLE BACK IN FOR THE NEXT
19:42:33 CASE.
19:42:34 WE ARE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
19:42:38 (RECESS)
19:46:00
19:55:05 >> -- [MUSIC] -- ROLAND STREET.
19:55:06 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SPECIAL USE 2 FOR COMMERCIAL
19:55:10 OFF-STREET PARKING.
19:55:13 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
19:55:16 THE FIRST ITEM FOR YOUR REVIEW IS SPECIAL USE 20-01.
19:55:21 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA
19:55:24 PLANNING DISTRICT.
19:55:27 THERE IS TRANSIT ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
19:55:31 THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE.
19:55:34 HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:55:40 THIS IS ROLAND STREET, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT STERLING.
19:55:44 THIS IS THE CVS OVER AT KENNEDY AND DALE MABRY.
19:55:49 YOU CAN SEE ROLAND AND SOUTH IS PREDOMINANTLY
19:55:53 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
19:55:54 THERE ARE SOME FUTURE TOWNHOMES OVER HERE TO THE WEST.
19:55:58 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
19:56:03 YOU COULD SEE THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THE PROPERTIES TO
19:56:05 THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST ARE ALL THAT RESIDENTIAL 10
19:56:09 FUTURE LAND USE.
19:56:10 TO THE WEST, ACROSS STERLING AVENUE IS RESIDENTIAL 20.
19:56:15 DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE THE URBAN MIXED USE 60
19:56:18 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, AND THEN TO THE NORTHWEST YOU
19:56:23 HAVE THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 AND THEN THERE'S SOME
19:56:27 COMMUNITY MIXED-USE 35 FURTHER SOUTH ON DALE MABRY
19:56:30 HIGHWAY.
19:56:32 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES OFF-STREET
19:56:36 PARKING WHERE APPROPRIATE IN THE URBAN SETTING.
19:56:39 THE PROPOSED PARKING WOULD SUPPORT THE ADJOINING
19:56:43 COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE
19:56:45 SUBJECT SITE.
19:56:46 THE SURROUNDING AREA IS A MIXTURE OF SINGLE-FAMILY
19:56:49 DETACHED HOUSING AND SUPPORT USES FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES
19:56:52 LOCATED TO THE NORTH ALONG WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
19:56:55 TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON WEST ROLAND STREET AT
19:56:58 THE CORNER OF SOUTH HIMES AVENUE AND WEST KENNEDY
19:57:01 BOULEVARD IS PARKING FOR ASSOCIATED COMMERCIAL USES
19:57:05 WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
19:57:09 THE INTRODUCTION OF AN OFF-STREET PARKING LOT WOULD NOT
19:57:11 BE OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THIS PORTION OF WEST ROLAND
19:57:15 STREET.
19:57:15 IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED USE OF THE SITE WOULD PROVIDE
19:57:19 ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH,
19:57:22 AND FURTHERMORE, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE USES
19:57:25 ALLOWED WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE
19:57:28 CATEGORY.
19:57:29 AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING
19:57:31 COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST CONSISTENT
19:57:34 WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
19:57:38 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
19:57:39 THANK YOU.
19:57:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:57:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING DESIGN AND
19:57:45 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
19:57:46 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE ON THE
19:57:48 PROPERTY 3619 WEST ROLAND STREET FOR OFF-STREET
19:57:51 COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT TO PROVIDE FOR PARKING FOR THE
19:57:55 COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH.
19:57:56 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED RS-60.
19:57:58 IT REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL THROUGH THE
19:58:00 SPECIAL USE PROCESS.
19:58:00 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS THAT ARE
19:58:02 IDENTIFIED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 1.
19:58:05 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS .1 ACRE AND IS LOCATED ONE LOT TO
19:58:08 THE SOUTH OF WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND SOUTH STERLING
19:58:11 AVENUE INTERSECTIONS.
19:58:12 THE SUBJECT APPLICATION PROPOSES A TOTAL OF 13 PARKING
19:58:17 SPACES.
19:58:17 THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY DOES NOT CONNECT TO THE EXISTING
19:58:20 COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE
19:58:22 PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS.
19:58:24 THIS REQUEST WILL SERVE RESTAURANT, RETAIL PERSONAL
19:58:26 SERVICES AND OFFICE USES LOCATED AT THE COMMERCIAL
19:58:29 GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT TO THE NORTH.
19:58:30 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN A
19:58:33 THOUSAND FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THE
19:58:36 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
19:58:39 APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:58:42 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SHOULD IT BE THE
19:58:44 PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION,
19:58:49 WAIVERS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT, FURTHER MODIFICATION TO
19:58:51 THE SITE PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
19:58:54 READING AS PROVIDED ON THE REVISION SHEET IN YOUR STAFF
19:58:56 REPORT.
19:58:57 I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
19:58:58 AS DAVID POINTED OUT HERE, THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP FROM THE
19:59:07 CITY OF TAMPA.
19:59:07 SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE IN RED.
19:59:09 THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT
19:59:12 PROPERTY.
19:59:12 I'LL SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN HERE IN A SECOND THAT SHOWS
19:59:14 YOU THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT IT'S PROVIDING PARKING FOR.
19:59:18 SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN BOLD.
19:59:22 THE 13 PARKING SPACES.
19:59:23 HERE IS THE ACCESS AND THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY THAT
19:59:25 CONNECTS TO THE COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER TO THE NORTH.
19:59:28 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
19:59:34 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH, WHICH WOULD BE THE PEDESTRIAN
19:59:43 CONNECTION.
19:59:44 THIS IS PART OF THE STRIP, MOSTLY OF THE STRIP CENTER.
19:59:47 IT EXTENDS A LITTLE FARTHER TO THE EAST.
19:59:51 SERVING TO THE NORTH.
19:59:52 THIS IS THE EAST NEIGHBOR AT 3617 WEST ROLAND.
19:59:56 THIS IS THE SOUTH NEIGHBOR AT 3620 WEST ROLAND.
19:59:59 AND THIS IS WEST STERLING AVENUE AND ROLAND
20:00:02 INTERSECTIONS.
20:00:03 AGAIN, STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE REVISIONS
20:00:07 MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
20:00:09 SHOULD CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THIS PETITION, AND STAFF IS
20:00:11 AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
20:00:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
20:00:16 STAFF?
20:00:16 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
20:00:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:00:18 RYAN, SO THIS IS AN EXISTING SHOPPING PLAZA WITH I THINK,
20:00:27 WHAT, ONE OR TWO RESTAURANTS OR SOMETHING IN IT, IS THAT
20:00:34 CORRECT?
20:00:34 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT, SIR.
20:00:35 I BELIEVE IT'S RENZO'S THAT'S OCCUPIED HERE.
20:00:39 AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, OFFICE USES AND PERSONAL
20:00:41 SERVICE USES STRUNG OUT THROUGHOUT THE STRIP CENTER HERE.
20:00:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN YOU INVESTIGATED THIS AND
20:00:46 EVALUATED IT AS PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS, YOU'RE
20:00:50 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
20:00:56 DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS THAT THERE'S INADEQUATE PARKING
20:00:59 RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT'S UP THERE ON KENNEDY?
20:01:05 IS THAT PART OF YOUR REASONING?
20:01:07 AND ALSO, HAVE YOU HAD -- YOU OR TRANSPORTATION, I THINK
20:01:12 WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TRANSPORTATION, HAVE WE HAD
20:01:15 ANY COMPLAINTS FROM OVERFLOW PARKING FOR ANY OF THESE
20:01:22 RETAIL USES?
20:01:24 >> I'LL SAY NO TO THE REVIEW.
20:01:27 AS FAR AS THE USES TO THE NORTH, IT COULD BE A LEGAL USE
20:01:33 THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING WITH THAT EXISTING PARKING LOT.
20:01:36 STAFF DOESN'T LOOK INTO WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S
20:01:42 DISSATISFACTION WITH THE PARKING OR NOT.
20:01:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE NOT DEVELOPING ADEQUACY PARKING
20:01:47 OF THE EXISTING CONDITION.
20:01:48 >>RYAN MANASSE: NO, SIR.
20:01:49 SO THE SPECIAL USE BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE SPECIFIC LOT
20:01:52 3619 WEST ROLAND.
20:01:53 THE REASON WE HAVE IT INCLUDED ON THE SITE PLAN IS TO
20:01:56 BETTER SHOW YOU HOW IT'S SERVING THAT COMMERCIAL USE TO
20:02:00 THE NORTH.
20:02:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:02:02 AND PERHAPS TRANSPORTATION CAN COME UP, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF
20:02:07 IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, QUICKLY, AND SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT
20:02:15 UNDER THE EXISTING -- THE EXISTING CONDITION THE CURRENT
20:02:20 CONDITION, IF THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT OVERFLOW PARKING
20:02:26 COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU GUYS GET CALLS
20:02:29 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT ON-STREET PARKING AND
20:02:32 OVERFLOW PARKING FOR MANY OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS?
20:02:35 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
20:02:37 I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMPLAINTS IN THAT AREA.
20:02:40 I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY.
20:02:42 THAT WASN'T A PART OF OUR REVIEW.
20:02:44 BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE IN
20:02:48 TIME.
20:02:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAID YOUR REVIEW, DID YOU HAVE A
20:02:54 REPORT ON THIS OR WHAT?
20:02:55 >> TYPICALLY WE DON'T LOOK AT COMPLAINTS LIKE THAT IF
20:02:58 THERE WAS.
20:02:59 BUT IF THERE WAS A PARKING WAIVER, WHICH IN THIS CASE
20:03:02 THERE ISN'T IT, WE WOULD OBJECT TO A PARKING WAIVER.
20:03:06 IN THIS CASE, THERE IS NO PARKING WAIVER REQUESTED.
20:03:10 JUST EXTRA PARKING.
20:03:11 WE WOULD BE ENCOURAGING SUCH A REQUEST.
20:03:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF YOU DO NOT MIND, A QUESTION
20:03:21 FOR STAFF.
20:03:21 ANY OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE STRIP CENTER, WERE ANY
20:03:24 PARKING WAIVERS REQUESTED AT THE TIME OF THEIR OPENING?
20:03:29 >> STAFF WOULDN'T HAVE THAT.
20:03:30 FOR THIS REPORT, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON 3619
20:03:33 WEST ROLAND.
20:03:34 IT'S PROVIDING ADDITIONAL LOT FOR PARKING.
20:03:37 SO WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT --
20:03:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M LOOKING MORE TOWARD THE STRIP CENTER.
20:03:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT.
20:03:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE FOR ME TO ASK
20:03:48 BUT ASKING IT ANYWAYS.
20:03:49 IS THERE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THAT STRIP CENTER, DO YOU
20:03:51 KNOW?
20:03:53 >>RYAN MANASSE: WE WOULDN'T KNOW.
20:03:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:03:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
20:03:56 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
20:03:57 SEEING NONE, ANYTHING ELSE?
20:04:00 ALL RIGHT.
20:04:02 PETITIONER?
20:04:07 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY
20:04:10 COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.
20:04:14 I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING 3636 KENNEDY
20:04:16 BOULEVARD THIS EVENING.
20:04:18 MY MAILING ADDRESS IS SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
20:04:23 JOINING ME THIS EVENING IS MARK GAINES AND SUZANNE GAINES
20:04:28 WHO OWN THE PLAZA ALONG WITH STEVE GAINES, MARK'S
20:04:33 BROTHER.
20:04:33 I'VE REPRESENTED THEM FOR MANY YEARS WITH THIS PROPERTY.
20:04:36 I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY SET THE STAGE FOR YOU AND THEN MARK
20:04:39 WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE YOU A DAY IN THE LIFE AT
20:04:42 3636 KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
20:04:45 AS MR. MANASSE EXPLAINED, IT'S ON THE CORNER OF STERLING
20:04:48 AND KENNEDY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER IMMEDIATELY BEHIND
20:04:52 RENZO'S ARGENTINE RESTAURANT.
20:04:57 I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE THIS EVENING, THE FACT
20:04:59 THAT YOU'RE NOT HERE CONSIDERING A PARKING WAIVER FOR A
20:05:03 CHANGE.
20:05:04 YOU'RE HERE CONSIDERING MORE PARKING TO SUPPORT AN
20:05:08 ONGOING BUSINESSMAN AND HIS TENANTS IN A BUILDING THAT
20:05:12 WAS BUILT IN 1967.
20:05:14 THIS IS A CLASSIC PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THE INTERBAY
20:05:17 PENINSULA IS YOU HAVE A RETROFIT OF OLDER 1960s BUILT
20:05:21 POST-WORLD WAR II VINTAGE BUILDINGS AND EVERYONE HAS A
20:05:25 CAR.
20:05:26 SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING.
20:05:29 THERE ARE WAIVERS INVOLVED.
20:05:30 WAIVERS, A DISTANCE WAIVER.
20:05:32 THERE'S ALSO TWO BUFFER WAIVERS THAT I'LL EXPLAIN LATER
20:05:36 AND THE REMAINING PART OF MY CASE.
20:05:39 AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MARK GAINES, WHO WILL
20:05:42 SPEAK TO YOU FOR A FEW MOMENTS.
20:05:54 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
20:05:55 MR. CHAIRMAN, GENTLEMEN OF CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR
20:06:07 ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
20:06:11 I OWN THE SHOPPING PLAZA AT THE CORNER OF KENNEDY
20:06:14 BOULEVARD AND STERLING STREET.
20:06:17 I'VE BEEN A RESPECTFUL CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF BON AIR
20:06:21 SUBDIVISION AND COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 22 YEARS.
20:06:25 MY TENANTS AND MYSELF ARE GLAD TO BE PART OF BON AIR.
20:06:30 OUR BUILDING CLEARLY DISPLAYS THE PRIDE AND COMMITMENT
20:06:36 THAT WE HAVE TO THE COMMUNITY.
20:06:37 AND LET ME SHOW YOU THAT.
20:06:41 THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF MY SHOPPING CENTER SHOWING A
20:06:54 LARGE MURAL THAT INTRODUCES BON AIR TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND
20:06:59 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GENERAL.
20:07:02 IT WAS PUT THERE BY MY TENANT, RENZO'S RESTAURANT, AND IT
20:07:07 IS A FINE AMENITY TO THE PROPERTY.
20:07:11 I MAY CONTINUE THAT.
20:07:15 BON AIR WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND
20:07:30 COMMERCIAL IN NATURE.
20:07:32 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, DALE MABRY, AZEELE, SWANN, THEY ALL
20:07:37 HAVE LOTS THAT ARE PART OF THE BON AIR COMMUNITY.
20:07:40 IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE CITY
20:07:43 OF TAMPA THAT THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF BON AIR REMAIN
20:07:48 SUCCESSFUL AND VIBRANT.
20:07:50 MY PLAZA HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
20:08:27 FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, WE HAVE HAD PERMISSION TO SEND
20:08:30 CARS THAT COULD NOT FIND SPACE IN MY CENTER WHEN THEY
20:08:35 ARRIVE ACROSS THE STREET TO PARK AT THE CHURCH PROPERTY
20:08:37 OWNED BY MY NEIGHBOR, JIM MIKES.
20:08:41 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ACCOMMODATION IS SOON TO END.
20:08:45 MR. MIKES IS READY TO GET HIS TOWN HOUSE AND COMMERCIAL
20:08:48 PROJECT UNDERWAY.
20:08:49 MY OVERFLOW CARCINOID FIND A NEW PARKING SPOT OR THEY
20:08:55 WILL ULTIMATELY WIND UP, I BELIEVE, IN THE BON AIR
20:08:59 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:08:59 IF THIS HAPPENS, I DON'T THINK THAT THE PEOPLE ON ROLAND
20:09:06 STREET WILL BE HAPPY IF THIS SHOULD OCCUR.
20:09:09 AND I AM TRYING TO BE THE BEST NEIGHBOR POSSIBLE.
20:09:13 I'M HERE TODAY TO DEMONSTRATE MY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITMENT.
20:09:23 MY GOOD-NEIGHBOR SOLUTION IS TO USE A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL
20:09:45 LOT ADJACENT TO MY CENTER FOR PARKING.
20:09:48 OVERFLOW CARS FROM MY PLAZA WILL ENTER THE PARKING LOT.
20:09:52 WHEN THEY LEAVE, THEY WILL EXIT NORTH TO KENNEDY.
20:09:56 THIS PARKING LOT THAT I ENVISION IS THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED,
20:10:00 LANDSCAPED AND BUFFERED, ALLOWING PARKING FOR 13 CARS.
20:10:05 THIS IS MY PROPERTY FROM AN AERIAL VIEW.
20:10:22 YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE MY COMMERCIAL CENTER HERE ON KENNEDY.
20:10:29 RIGHT NOW, CARS ARE ABLE TO COME ACROSS STERLING AND
20:10:33 OVERFLOW INTO MR. JIM MIKES' PROPERTY.
20:10:38 MY GOAL TONIGHT IS TO HAVE THOSE CARS LEAVE THAT
20:10:43 ARRANGEMENT AND COME OVER HERE ACROSS STERLING TO THIS
20:10:47 RESIDENTIAL PARKING LOT.
20:10:50 PARKING LOT EXPANSIONS INTO RESIDENTIAL PARTS OF BON AIR
20:11:00 ARE NOT ANYTHING NEW.
20:11:02 WE FIND THAT BEHIND THE PRESS BOX AND SHELLS RESTAURANT
20:11:08 ON DALE MABRY AND BEHIND THE MEDICAL PLAZA ON KENNEDY AT
20:11:12 HIMES.
20:11:13 I BELIEVE OPPOSITION TO MY PROJECT WILL SAY THAT
20:11:39 COMMERCIAL DOES NOT BELONG NEAR RESIDENTIAL, THAT
20:11:39 ALLOWING PARKING NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL WILL BRING DOWN
20:11:42 PROPERTY VALUES.
20:11:43 BUT THE FACTS PROVE OTHERWISE.
20:11:45 THE EAST END OF ROLAND IS NOW A PARKING LOT USING FOUR
20:11:52 ROLAND STREET RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO PARK CARS FOR KENNEDY
20:11:56 MEDICAL CLINIC.
20:11:57 THE EAST END OF ROLAND HAS, IN FACT, ENJOYED A VERY
20:12:04 SIGNIFICANT AND SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT.
20:12:09 I'D LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT THREE CUSTOM HIGH-END HOMES
20:12:35 HAVE BEEN BUILT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS EXISTING ROLAND
20:12:38 PARKING LOT, A BRAND-NEW, $1.2 MILLION HOME IS COMING OUT
20:12:45 OF THE GROUND NOW, AND WILL BE COMPLETED IN AUGUST.
20:12:49 THIS HOME IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE WEST WALL OF THIS EXISTING
20:12:53 ROLAND PARKING LOT.
20:12:56 THE FACTS POINT OUT CLEARLY THAT THE EXISTENCE OF AN
20:13:01 ADJACENT PARKING LOT DID NOT HURT OR DEVALUE ADJOINING
20:13:05 BON AIR PROPERTIES.
20:13:07 NEGATIVE EFFECTS DID NOT OCCUR.
20:13:11 DEMAND AND DEVELOPMENT REMAINS BRISK THROUGHOUT BON AIR.
20:13:15 I BELIEVE OPPOSITION TO MY PROJECT WILL ALSO SAY THAT
20:13:19 THEY STAND UNITED AGAINST CHANGE.
20:13:23 I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO WALK THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD
20:13:29 KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TALKING TO AS MANY BON AIR
20:13:32 NEIGHBORS AS I COULD.
20:13:34 I AM HERE TODAY TO REPORT THAT STRONG -- THAT THERE IS
20:13:38 STRONG SUPPORT FOR MY PROJECT ACROSS THE ENTIRE
20:13:42 SUBDIVISION.
20:13:43 I HAVE PAGE AFTER PAGE OF SUPPORT FROM MY NEIGHBORS IN
20:14:01 BON AIR TOTALING 84 SIGNATURES.
20:14:04 IN PARTICULAR, THEY HAVE SIGNED THE FOLLOWING: WE THE
20:14:09 RESIDENTS OF BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT REDUCING NEARBY
20:14:12 CUSTOMER PARKING IN THE STREETS IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES.
20:14:16 WE SUPPORT BUSINESSES THAT INCREASE THEIR ON-SITE
20:14:19 PARKING.
20:14:20 WE SUPPORT THE PLAN ATTACHED DESIGNED TO KEEP PARKING
20:14:25 ON-SITE NEXT TO THE ADJOINING BUSINESS CENTER AND NOT IN
20:14:30 FRONT OF OUR BON AIR HOMES.
20:14:32 THESE ARE 84 SIGNATURES OF RESIDENTS OF BON AIR.
20:14:37 FINALLY, I ALSO MET WITH THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD
20:14:46 ASSOCIATION.
20:14:47 BASED ON THEIR SUGGESTIONS, I MODIFIED MY ORIGINAL PLAN
20:14:51 IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
20:14:53 I HAVE LOWERED THE SCREENING FENCE, STARTS AT SIX FEET
20:15:12 AND AT THE FRONT SETBACK OF THE ADJACENT HOME, IT GOES
20:15:16 DOWN TO THREE FEET.
20:15:18 THIS WAS SUGGESTED BY THE BON AIR CIVIC ASSOCIATION TO
20:15:21 ALLOW FOR A BETTER VISUAL WHEN LOOKING DOWN THE STREET.
20:15:26 I HAVE ALSO INCREASED THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN FRONT OF
20:15:30 THE PROPERTY, WHICH FRONTS ROLAND, AND I HAVE INCLUDED A
20:15:37 SIGNAGE FOR RIGHT TURN ONLY COMING OUT OF THE PARKING LOT
20:15:41 AND DIRECTING CARS TO EXIT ONTO KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
20:15:46 I HAVE A PICTURE HERE, AND THERE'S ALSO A COPY OF IT ON
20:15:58 THE EASEL.
20:16:01 THIS WAS ROLAND STREET FEBRUARY 15th, 2020.
20:16:09 THIS IS ROLAND STREET THAT WAS SNARLED BY A PARKING
20:16:14 OVERFLOW FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COLLEGE-AGE
20:16:17 PARTIES.
20:16:19 I AM A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
20:16:21 I DO NOT WANT ROLAND STREET TO LOOK LIKE THIS EVERY DAY.
20:16:25 I AM TRYING TO AVOID THIS.
20:16:29 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DESERVES A GOOD PARKING PLAN.
20:16:34 I THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH
20:16:37 YOU.
20:16:37 THANK YOU.
20:16:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:16:40 MR. GRANDOFF.
20:16:47 >> PLEASE HOLD MY TIME FOR A MOMENT.
20:16:49 CAN YOU SEE THIS ON THE OVERHEAD?
20:17:07 LET ME ORIENT IT.
20:17:09 OKAY.
20:17:09 I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE WAIVERS AND PICK UP ON
20:17:13 THEM ON REBUTTAL.
20:17:15 LET ME START.
20:17:15 THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS INVOLVED.
20:17:17 FIRST OF ALL, RENZO'S IS OVER HERE TO THE NORTH.
20:17:20 HERE IS ROLAND STREET.
20:17:21 THIS IS THE PROPERTY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE PARKING
20:17:24 LOT.
20:17:24 13 SPACES.
20:17:25 WAIVER NUMBER ONE IS THE PARKING LOT FOR AN ADJACENT
20:17:29 COMMERCIAL USE CANNOT EXTEND BEYOND 100 FEET.
20:17:32 WE'RE 127 FEET.
20:17:34 THAT'S WAIVER NUMBER ONE.
20:17:36 WAIVER NUMBER TWO, YOU HAVE TO BUFFER THE PARKING LOT
20:17:40 FROM AN ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USE, RESIDENTIAL USE HERE,
20:17:44 BY 15 FEET.
20:17:45 WE'RE REDUCING THE BUFFER FROM 15 FEET TO 12 FEET.
20:17:49 WHY?
20:17:49 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE CARS TO TURN
20:17:53 AROUND IN THE PARKING LOT.
20:17:54 IF WE ADD 15 FEET, WE GIVE IT BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE THE
20:17:57 PARKING LOT FUNCTION.
20:17:58 WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE A SIX-FOOT PVC FENCE AS REQUIRED ON
20:18:05 THIS LOT LINE.
20:18:06 WAIVER NUMBER THREE IS YOU ALSO NEED A BUFFER AGAINST
20:18:10 THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY HERE.
20:18:12 WE'RE REDUCING THAT ALSO FROM I BELIEVE TEN FEET TO EIGHT
20:18:17 FEET.
20:18:18 AGAIN, THE REASON IS, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIT THE CARS
20:18:21 IN THERE.
20:18:22 ANOTHER REASON IS WE'RE ON A CORNER, AND THIS SPACE HERE,
20:18:26 THIS GREENSPACE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE
20:18:29 RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE IS 27 FEET.
20:18:31 SO WE'RE BURDENED BY AN EXTENSIVE CORNER YARD, WHICH EATS
20:18:36 INTO THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO BUILD THE
20:18:38 PARKING SPACES.
20:18:40 ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MARK BROUGHT UP
20:18:44 IS WE HAVE A RIGHT TURN ONLY.
20:18:46 WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING THE PARKING LOT, YOU TURN RIGHT AND
20:18:49 GO IMMEDIATELY TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD INSTEAD OF TURNING
20:18:52 LEFT AND GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:18:54 SO WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL THAT EXIT.
20:18:57 STORMWATER POND HERE.
20:18:58 CRAPE MYRTLE TREES HERE.
20:19:00 AS MARK EXPLAINED, THERE IS A DROP-DOWN OF THE FENCE TO
20:19:03 THREE FEET HERE TO PRESERVE THE VISTA.
20:19:06 LOOKING DOWN THE STREET AND SPEAKING OF VISTAS, THIS IS
20:19:10 THE PROPERTY THAT MARK WAS TALKING ABOUT.
20:19:13 THE MEDICAL CENTER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ROLAND.
20:19:17 THIS IS AT ROLAND AND HIMES JUST SOUTH OF THE HIMES AND
20:19:20 KENNEDY INTERSECTION.
20:19:22 MARK WAS SHOWING YOU FROM THE OTHER SIDE, THERE IS A
20:19:25 PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE.
20:19:28 CLEARLY, HERE'S A BETTER VIEW LOOKING NORTH ON HIMES.
20:19:31 TO THE LEFT IS ROLAND STREET.
20:19:33 WE'RE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ROLAND.
20:19:36 CLEARING, WE'RE NOT ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT, WHICH IS
20:19:39 ONE OF THE CRITERIA IN THE SPECIAL USE GENERAL STANDARDS
20:19:44 THAT WE NOT BE ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT.
20:19:47 PARDON ME FOR A MOMENT.
20:19:49 I WANT TO GO BACK TO MR. HEY'S FINDINGS, WHICH IS VERY
20:19:54 INSTRUCTIVE.
20:19:55 ON PAGE 3, THE MIDDLE PARAGRAPH, NUMBER ONE, THE TAMPA
20:19:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES OFF-STREET PARKING WHERE
20:20:02 APPROPRIATE IN URBAN SETTINGS.
20:20:06 WHY?
20:20:07 BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCOURAGES WAIVERS, WHICH
20:20:09 YOU CONSIDER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME.
20:20:12 NO PARKING COUNT WAIVER.
20:20:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
20:20:17 >> ONE SENTENCE.
20:20:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
20:20:18 >> THE LAST SENTENCE OF THAT PARAGRAPH.
20:20:20 THE INTRODUCTION OF AN OFF-STREET PARKING LOT WOULD NOT
20:20:24 BE OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THIS PORTION OF ROLAND STREET.
20:20:27 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:20:28 I'LL CONTINUE MY COMMENTS ON REBUTTAL.
20:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:20:32 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
20:20:34 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
20:20:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
20:20:37 MR. GRANDOFF, I NEED TO START OUT BY SAYING, WHAT ARE THE
20:20:44 BUSINESSES IN THE STRIP CENTER?
20:20:47 EXCUSE ME.
20:20:48 LET ME START OFF BY ASKING THIS QUESTION SO I CLARIFY MY
20:20:51 OTHER QUESTIONS.
20:20:52 WHAT IS THIS PARKING LOT GOING TO BE USED FOR?
20:20:55 >> THE STRIP CENTER IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH IS OWNED BY
20:20:58 MY CLIENT.
20:20:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:20:59 WHAT ARE THE BUSINESSES IN THE STRIP CENTER?
20:21:02 >> PARDON ME FOR A MOMENT.
20:21:04 I NEED TO GET THAT OUT OF MY FILE.
20:21:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO RIGHT AHEAD.
20:21:08 COUNCIL, I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS FOR
20:21:11 THE USE OF THE OFF-SITE PARKING.
20:21:13 I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE OFF-SITE PARKING WILL BE
20:21:15 USED SO I CAN GO INTO MY OTHER QUESTIONS.
20:21:18 COUNCIL, IS THAT ALL RIGHT?
20:21:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
20:21:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
20:21:25 >> NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE RENZO'S RESTAURANT, WHICH IS ON
20:21:28 THE CORNER AT STERLING.
20:21:32 YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW A VACANT SPACE, AND THEN YOU HAVE
20:21:37 THREE TENANTS.
20:21:38 ONE I BELIEVE IS A PRINT SHOP AND THE OTHERS, MARK.
20:21:47 THERE ARE TWO MORE.
20:21:48 >> RENZO'S RESTAURANT IS ON THE CORNER.
20:21:51 NEXT TO RENZO'S IS NOT VACANT.
20:21:53 IT HAS A TENANT THAT IS TAMPA PRINTERS.
20:21:56 THEY PRINT GRAPHICS AND COMMERCIAL PRINTING.
20:22:00 AND THEN THERE IS A SECOND BUILDING WITH THREE SMALLER
20:22:04 TENANTS, AND THEY ARE A HOME HEALTH CARE COMPANY THAT
20:22:09 SENDS NURSES OUT AND HEALTH CARE PEOPLE TO HOMES.
20:22:13 THERE IS A BEAUTY SALON, AND THERE IS A THERAPEUTIC FOOT
20:22:18 MASSAGE TENANT.
20:22:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE COULD SAFELY SAY THAT THOSE OTHER
20:22:22 BUSINESSES BESIDES THE RESTAURANT WILL PROBABLY CLOSE
20:22:25 SOMEWHERE AROUND 6, 7 AT NIGHT.
20:22:28 WE COULD SAFELY SAY THAT?
20:22:31 >> YES, YES.
20:22:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY CONCERN IS THE RESTAURANT ITSELF.
20:22:35 WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF THE RESTAURANT?
20:22:37 >> I HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT.
20:22:40 BUT I BELIEVE THEY CLOSE AROUND 10:30 OR 11:00 AT NIGHT.
20:22:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY POINT IS GOING TO BE THE TRAFFIC GOING
20:22:49 TO AND FROM YOUR STRIP CENTER COULD BE AS LATE AS 11,
20:22:54 12:00 AT NIGHT.
20:22:56 >> WELL, THAT'S POSSIBLE.
20:22:58 BUT THE CENTER CLOSES -- THINS OUT VERY DEFINITELY AT 5,
20:23:03 5:30, 6:00.
20:23:05 AND ALL THE REMAINING PARKING IS EMPLOYED AND USED BY
20:23:12 RENZO'S FOR THEIR EVENING PEOPLE.
20:23:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY VALET PARKING IN
20:23:16 THE FUTURE?
20:23:18 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S CONTEMPLATED, NO.
20:23:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
20:23:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:23:23 ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
20:23:27 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: MR. MANISCALCO, I WOULD LIKE TO FINISH
20:23:29 MY ANSWER TO --
20:23:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.
20:23:33 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: CITRO.
20:23:35 PARDON ME.
20:23:35 YOU HAD A QUESTION, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY WAIVERS.
20:23:38 I WANT TO BE CANDID WITH YOU, ON A RESTAURANT SPECIAL USE
20:23:42 THERE WAS A WAIVER GRANTED YEARS AGO FROM 25 SPACES
20:23:46 REQUIRED TO 19 SPACES REQUIRED.
20:23:48 AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, SPECIAL USE 2.
20:23:53 THERE ARE 37 SPACES ON THE PROPERTY.
20:23:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. GRANDOFF.
20:23:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
20:24:00 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
20:24:03 IS EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE ROOM HERE TO SPEAK?
20:24:06 ALL RIGHT.
20:24:08 HAS EVERYONE BEEN SWORN IN?
20:24:12 IF YOU HAVE NOT, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN AND WE'LL DO IT
20:24:15 NOW.
20:24:16 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
20:24:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
20:24:25 GO AHEAD, SIR.
20:24:26 YOU'LL BE THE FIRST SPEAKER.
20:24:27 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT FOR THE RECORD.
20:24:31 >> GOOD EVENING.
20:24:33 I'M BOB HUNTER.
20:24:34 B-O-B H-U-N-T-E-R.
20:24:38 I LIVE AT 4111 KIPLING AVENUE, PLANT CITY, FLORIDA,
20:24:42 33566.
20:24:44 I'M REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTS OF ROLAND STREET.
20:24:46 AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, I PROVIDE MY COMMENTS AND
20:24:49 CREDENTIALS TO THE CLERK.
20:24:51 MY CREDENTIALS ARE I WAS DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE
20:24:57 CITIES OF SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, RENO, NEVADA, KANSAS CITY,
20:25:01 MISSOURI.
20:25:01 AND FOR 26 YEARS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HILLSBOROUGH
20:25:04 COUNTY CITY-COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:25:06 I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.
20:25:09 I AM A CERTIFIED PLANNER, AND I'M A FELLOW IN THE
20:25:12 AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS.
20:25:14 MY COMMENTS ARE, AND YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD IT BY THE
20:25:17 APPLICANT.
20:25:18 THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:25:20 WE HEAR THAT A LOT.
20:25:23 MY COMMENTS ARE REAL TIGHT THREE MINUTES.
20:25:26 I'LL READ PRETTY FAST.
20:25:27 COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE, DON'T LET THAT SAYING APPLY IN
20:25:30 THIS CASE.
20:25:31 BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD, TO TEAR DOWN A HOUSE AND BUILD A
20:25:35 PARKING LOT, AS BUSINESSES ENCROACH INTO NEIGHBORHOODS,
20:25:38 THEY BUY A HOUSE, LET IT DETERIORATE, THEN SAY IT'S
20:25:43 DILAPIDATED.
20:25:44 APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SOME WAIVERS SAYING
20:25:48 THEY ARE GOING TO, QUOTE, IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
20:25:51 UNQUOTE.
20:25:53 WITH CLEARING THE LOT, PAVING THE LOT, PUTTING IN
20:25:58 LANDSCAPING, AND EVEN BEAUTIFUL BLUE WATER STORMWATER
20:26:01 RETENTION ELEMENTS, AS YOU HAVE SEEN.
20:26:05 THAT'S A STANDARD DEVELOPMENT EQUATION TO DESTROYING
20:26:10 STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
20:26:11 THAT SHOULD NOT BE.
20:26:12 FROM A CITY PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, I URGE YOU NOT TO LET
20:26:17 THAT HAPPEN TO THIS STABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:26:20 IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, IT'S
20:26:23 UNHEALTHY.
20:26:24 IT'S BAD PLANNING, AND IT'S DAMAGING TO THE BON AIR
20:26:30 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:26:31 AS YOU KNOW, TAMPA IS A CITY OF DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
20:26:33 MANY, WHILE DIVERSE OR STABLE, STRONG AND REMAIN A SAFE
20:26:38 PLACE FOR FAMILY LIVING, RAISING CHILDREN, VISITING
20:26:42 FAMILY AND FRIENDS, KNOWING YOUR NEIGHBOR AND RETAINING
20:26:45 YOUR HOME'S VALUE AS YOUR PRIMARY INVESTMENT.
20:26:47 THIS RESIDENTIAL LOT MUST REMAIN A PART OF THE BON AIR
20:26:52 NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT ALLOWED TO BE CONVERTED TO A 13-CAR
20:26:56 COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT INTRUDING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS
20:26:59 A COMMERCIAL EYESORE.
20:27:01 IT DOES NOT FIT HERE.
20:27:03 IT DETRACTS.
20:27:04 PLEASE DON'T LET IT HAPPEN.
20:27:06 THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOES SOUTHWARD IS STABLE
20:27:10 AND NEEDS YOUR PROTECTION.
20:27:12 INCREMENTAL ZONING BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND AS THE
20:27:15 WAIVERS WERE MENTIONED AND WAIVERS WERE OBTAINED 25 YEARS
20:27:18 AGO, IF ALLOWED, WILL CONTINUE TO DESTROY THIS
20:27:22 NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THE FROG IN THE POT OF
20:27:25 SLOW-BOILING WATER.
20:27:28 WHEN HE, WHEN YOU REALIZE IT, IT'S TOO LATE.
20:27:31 AND IN THIS BON AIR CASE IN A FEW MONTHS, PERHAPS ANOTHER
20:27:36 SINGLE SPECIAL USE COMMERCIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION,
20:27:41 JUST ONE MORE SMALL PARKING LOT ON A RESIDENTIAL LOT.
20:27:46 IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD,
20:27:50 THIS COMMERCIAL PARKING IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND
20:27:54 INCONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:27:56 DON'T LET IT GET STARTED.
20:27:58 JUST SAY NO.
20:27:59 THANK YOU.
20:28:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:28:03 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:28:07 >> I'M PAMELA JO HATLEY.
20:28:09 I REPRESENT RON AND CAROL KILGORE.
20:28:12 THEY OWN PROPERTY AT 3617 AND 3618 WEST ROLAND.
20:28:16 THE CITY SHOULD DENY THIS SPECIAL USE REQUEST BECAUSE IT
20:28:19 IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
20:28:22 IT DOES NOT MEET THE GENERAL OR SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR A
20:28:26 COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT IN RES-60 ZONING DISTRICT.
20:28:30 FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
20:28:32 PLAN THE FOLLOWING POLICIES: LAND USE POLICY 9.2.1 WHICH
20:28:36 REQUIRES THE CITY TO PROTECT, PROMOTE AND MAINTAIN
20:28:39 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
20:28:41 OBJECTIVE 9.5 AND POLICY 9.5.1 WHICH REQUIRE THE CITY TO
20:28:45 MAINTAIN THE STABILITY OF EXISTING AREAS AND PROTECT LOW
20:28:49 DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS THAT PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH
20:28:52 PRIVACY AND OPEN SPACES.
20:28:55 POLICY 9.5.4 WHICH REQUIRES THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THE
20:28:59 CHARACTER OF EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS AND POLICY
20:29:02 9.5.5 WHICH REQUIRES THE CITY TO LIMIT THE NONRESIDENTIAL
20:29:08 USES PERMITTED IN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO
20:29:12 PROTECT THOSE AREAS FROM THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF
20:29:15 INCOMPATIBLE USES.
20:29:17 SECOND, IT DOES NOT MEET THE GENERAL STANDARDS FOR A
20:29:20 SPECIAL USE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A DISRUPTIVE INTRUSION
20:29:23 INTO THIS QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS NOT
20:29:26 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.
20:29:30 IT SEEKS WAIVERS THAT WILL JUST INTENSIFY THE INTRUSION
20:29:34 AND THE ADVERSE IMPACTS OF THE COMMERCIAL USE, AND
20:29:37 THERE'S ALREADY A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT ON THIS BLOCK AT
20:29:41 ROLAND AND HIMES ADDING ANOTHER ONE WILL ESTABLISH A
20:29:44 PRECEDENT AND ENCOURAGE MORE INTENSIVE OR INCOMPATIBLE
20:29:48 COMMERCIAL USES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:29:50 NUMBER THREE, THE REQUEST DOES NOT MEET THE SPECIFIC
20:29:55 STANDARDS FOR A SPECIAL USE BECAUSE IT SEEKS A WAIVER TO
20:29:58 EXTEND THE PARKING AREA AS FAR AS POSSIBLE INTO THIS
20:30:02 RESIDENTIAL LOT, EVEN THOUGH THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS IN
20:30:05 THE TAMPA CODE REQUIRE THAT IN NO CASE SHALL THE PARKING
20:30:10 AREA EXTEND MORE THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE CLOSEST
20:30:13 BOUNDARY OF THE COMMERCIAL ZONING LOT.
20:30:14 IT ALSO SEEKS A WAIVER TO REDUCE THE BUFFERS AND THE
20:30:18 SCREENING, EVEN THOUGH THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS OF THE CODE
20:30:21 REQUIRE THE COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT TO BE SCREENED FROM
20:30:24 ALL ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES IN ACCORDANCE WITH CODE
20:30:28 REQUIREMENTS.
20:30:29 THE WAIVERS, OF COURSE, SHOULD NOT BE GRANTED SINCE THE
20:30:31 REQUEST DOES NOT MEET THE GENERAL STANDARDS OF THE CODE
20:30:34 FOR SPECIAL USE AND THE WAIVERS WOULD INTENSIFY THE
20:30:37 ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:30:39 SINCE THE REQUEST DOES NOT MEET THE GENERAL OR THE
20:30:42 SPECIFIC SPECIAL USE STANDARDS AND IT IS NOT CONSISTENT
20:30:46 WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES ESTABLISHED TO
20:30:49 PROTECT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME COMMUNITIES, THIS
20:30:53 SPECIAL USE REQUEST SHOULD BE DENIED, AND WE ASK THAT YOU
20:30:57 DO THAT TONIGHT.
20:30:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:30:59 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:31:02 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
20:31:03 DEDE WALDRON.
20:31:06 D-E-D-E AND WALDRON.
20:31:09 W-A-L-D-R-O-N.
20:31:10 3614 WEST ROLAND STREET.
20:31:13 I CAN YOU TONIGHT TO DENY THE SPECIAL REUSE REQUEST
20:31:17 BECAUSE IT BRINGS AN INTRUSIVE COMMERCIAL USE INTO OUR
20:31:21 QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:31:23 AS STATED IN LAND USE POLICY 9.5.5, LIMIT THE NUMBER AND
20:31:28 TYPES OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES PERMITTED IN SINGLE-FAMILY
20:31:33 RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO PROTECT THOSE AREAS FROM THE
20:31:37 NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF INCOMPATIBLE USE.
20:31:40 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTS OF MIXED AGES, FROM COLLEGE
20:31:43 STUDENTS TO YOUNG COUPLES TO FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, TO
20:31:48 RETIREES.
20:31:48 ON ANY GIVEN DAY YOU WILL FIND ON OUR SIDEWALK, PARENTS
20:31:51 PUSHING STROLLERS, LITTLE PEEPS, I CALL THEM, YOUNG KIDS
20:31:56 RIDING TRICYCLES AND BICYCLES.
20:31:58 NEIGHBORS WALKING PETS, AND THOSE WALKING FOR EXERCISES.
20:32:02 OUR NEIGHBORS LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER.
20:32:04 OUR LOCAL COLLEGE STUDENT I AM SURE IS THANKFUL FOR ALL
20:32:08 THE EXTRA PARENTS THAT LOOK OUT FOR HIM.
20:32:11 I KNOW I AM BLESSED.
20:32:12 I HAVE RECEIVED THE BEST, UNSOLICITED ADVICE FROM THIS
20:32:15 LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:32:17 ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
20:32:23 LAND USE POLICY 9.5.1 STATES, PROTECT LOW-DENSITY,
20:32:30 SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS THAT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOME
20:32:34 OWNERSHIP THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN
20:32:38 AND OTHER RESIDENTS THAT PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH PRIVACY
20:32:42 AND OPEN SPACES ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENTS.
20:32:45 A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH OUR
20:32:49 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:32:50 IT DOES NOT FOSTER COMMUNITY PRIDE NOR ENHANCE OUR
20:32:53 NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY, AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT FAMILY
20:32:57 FRIENDLY, WHICH OUR GOAL STATED IN YOUR POLICY 1.1.3, IT
20:33:04 WILL DETRACT FROM THE APPEARANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
20:33:07 IT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
20:33:10 OUR LATEST RESIDENT TO ROLAND STREET IS TWO AND A
20:33:14 HALF-YEAR-OLD ELIZA.
20:33:16 WHEN ELIZA IS NOT FALLING OFF HER SCOOTER, SHE IS
20:33:20 DECORATING OUR SIDEWALKS.
20:33:21 WHEN ELIZA RUNS OUT OF ROOM, EVERY NEIGHBOR AVAILS THE
20:33:25 SIDEWALK TO ELIZA TO DECORATE.
20:33:27 WE WELCOME MANY MORE ELIZAS TO PAVE THE WAY TO ROLAND
20:33:32 STREET VERSUS A PARKING LOT.
20:33:33 I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
20:33:35 AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US KEEP OUR QUIET
20:33:39 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:33:39 IT IS A DELIGHTFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
20:33:41 I WELCOME YOU TO COME VISIT AND MEET OUR LOCAL ARTIST
20:33:44 ELIZA.
20:33:45 THANK YOU.
20:33:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:33:46 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:33:53 >> TRISH MOORE.
20:33:54 3612 WEST PLATT STREET.
20:33:58 I'M ASKING THAT YOU DENY THIS REQUEST.
20:34:01 MY HUSBAND AND I HELPED OUR DAUGHTER PURCHASE 3612 WEST
20:34:05 PLATT STREET IN 2019.
20:34:09 I HAVE BEEN THERE EVERY DAY FOR EIGHT MONTHS RENOVATING
20:34:12 THIS HOME AND THE PROCESS IS STILL GOING ON.
20:34:17 BEING THERE EVERY DAY, I HAVE EXPERIENCED A CLOSE
20:34:19 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:34:21 THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING ERODED BY COMMERCIAL
20:34:25 BUSINESSES.
20:34:27 THIS PICTURE HERE SHOWS HOW BON AIR IS SURROUNDED ON ALL
20:34:31 SIDES BY COMMERCIAL.
20:34:33 WE ARE A SHORTCUT FOR TRAFFIC BETWEEN DALE MABRY AND
20:34:36 HIMES AS WELL AS BETWEEN KENNEDY, AZEELE, AND SWANN.
20:34:40 ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE REALLY CLEAR IS THAT IN THE
20:34:44 '70s, TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS DID NOT HAVE THE INPUT WITH
20:34:47 THE CITY THAT THEY HAVE TODAY.
20:34:51 DURING THAT TIME, A PARKING LOT AT 3600 WEST KENNEDY
20:34:54 BOULEVARD WAS EXTENDED INTO THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD ON
20:34:58 ROLAND STREET.
20:35:00 AND THE BOARD HERE SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT THAT INTRUSION
20:35:03 LOOKS LIKE.
20:35:05 IT IS A SIX-FOOT-HIGH BLOCK WALL WITH A BRIGHT BLUE
20:35:09 BACKFLOW AND NO LANDSCAPING.
20:35:12 NOW, ALMOST 50 YEARS LATER, WE ARE FACING THE SAME
20:35:17 COMMERCIAL INTRUSION INTO BON AIR AGAIN.
20:35:21 I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ALL THE LAND USE POLICIES THAT
20:35:24 WERE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT THE
20:35:27 PROPERTY, THE HOME THAT'S THERE IS REALLY A VERY
20:35:30 BEAUTIFUL LOT.
20:35:31 THE HOME ITSELF IS QUAINT.
20:35:33 AND THEN DOWN BELOW IS A WALL ON CLEVELAND STREET THAT
20:35:39 BACKS UP TO THE SHELL RESTAURANT.
20:35:42 WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
20:35:44 THOSE CALLS CAME EARLY ON, '70s, EARLY '80s.
20:35:49 WE HAVE A LAND USE PLAN TODAY THAT IS WAY BETTER THAN
20:35:52 WHAT IT WAS BACK THEN.
20:35:54 I'M ASKING YOU TO NOT SUPPORT THIS.
20:35:58 TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.
20:36:00 ONE BLIGHTED EAST END OF ROLAND DOES NOT JUSTIFY DOING
20:36:04 THE SAME TO THE WEST END OF THE STREET.
20:36:06 YOU CAN'T WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO A PARKING LOT AND
20:36:10 INVITE IT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD POTLUCK DINNER.
20:36:12 YOU CAN'T ASK ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND WHAT SCHOOLS THEY GO
20:36:15 TO.
20:36:16 YOU CAN'T CREATE A NEIGHBOR OUT OF A PARKING LOT.
20:36:18 THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF BON AIR DESERVES TO BE PROTECTED.
20:36:21 THANK YOU.
20:36:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:36:23 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:36:29 >> THANK YOU.
20:36:30 LARRY WALDRON, 3614 WEST ROLAND STREET.
20:36:34 OUR PROPERTY IS FOUR HOMES TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY
20:36:38 REQUESTING THE SPECIAL USE.
20:36:40 I ASK THAT YOU REJECT THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST FOR 3619
20:36:45 WEST ROLAND STREET.
20:36:47 SINCE MY WIFE STOLE MOST OF MY MESSAGE ALREADY, I'M JUST
20:36:51 GOING TO SAY TWO POINTS.
20:36:52 ONE, COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS, NO MATTER HOW WELL THEY ARE
20:36:56 MANAGED ARE GOING TO INVARIABLY BRING ON UNDESIRABLE AND
20:37:01 SOMETIMES ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
20:37:03 WE DON'T NEED THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:37:05 NUMBER TWO, I THINK ALL YOU GENTLEMAN IF HAD THE OPTION
20:37:11 WOULD CHOOSE NOT TO LIVE NEXT TO A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT
20:37:15 AT YOUR RESIDENCE OR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:37:19 FINALLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, I WANT TO WISH MY WIFE
20:37:22 A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
20:37:24 [ APPLAUSE ]
20:37:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:37:26 AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
20:37:27 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:37:29 >> TERRANCE MOORE.
20:37:30 1801 EAST OKALOOSA AVENUE IN TAMPA.
20:37:34 I FIRST MOVED INTO THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE EARLY
20:37:38 '80s AND LIVED THERE FOR MANY YEARS.
20:37:41 IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:37:42 I LOVED IT THEN.
20:37:43 I STILL LOVE IT.
20:37:44 I STILL HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THERE.
20:37:45 I GO THERE A LOT.
20:37:47 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:37:48 IT'S A STABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:37:50 THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE
20:37:52 THE '70s, '60s EVEN.
20:37:55 BUT IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S CHALLENGED.
20:37:58 IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DELICATE BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL
20:38:01 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:38:02 IT'S GOT KENNEDY TO THE NORTH, DALE MABRY TO THE WEST,
20:38:05 NOT FAR AWAY IS HENDERSON, AND IT'S DISSECTED BY SWANN
20:38:09 AND AZEELE.
20:38:10 IT'S DELICATE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO SURVIVE AS A
20:38:15 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEPENDS ON THE KIND OF DECISIONS
20:38:18 THAT YOU MAKE.
20:38:19 AND YOU SHOULD FAVOR THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND
20:38:23 ALLOW IT TO SURVIVE.
20:38:24 AND THE MORE YOU MAKE MORE AND MORE ENCROACHMENTS ON IT,
20:38:28 THE LESS LIKELY IT WILL SURVIVE.
20:38:30 I LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO MUCH THAT SOME YEARS AGO --
20:38:35 RECENTLY, MY DAUGHTER WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE.
20:38:38 SHE WAS IN ST. PETE.
20:38:39 I SAID COME BACK TO TAMPA.
20:38:40 WHAT ARE YOU DOING OVER THERE?
20:38:42 I SHOWED HER THIS BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I USED TO
20:38:45 LIVE WHEN I WAS ABOUT HER AGE.
20:38:47 IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR A FIRST HOME.
20:38:50 SHE LOVED IT, TOO.
20:38:52 WE HELPED HER BUY HER HOME.
20:38:54 WE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN HER HOME.
20:38:56 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PUTTING MONEY, FIXING UP THIS
20:38:59 NEIGHBORHOOD, PRESERVING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:39:01 THAT'S A GREAT THING.
20:39:02 SHE'S MADE IT BEAUTIFUL AND SHE'S VERY HAPPY THERE.
20:39:05 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, STABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:39:07 DON'T LET IT GO TO THE DOGS.
20:39:09 NOW, I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION, THE ARGUMENTS THAT PEOPLE
20:39:12 MAKE WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH PARKING IN
20:39:15 RESTAURANTS, BECAUSE I'VE DEVELOPED THREE RESTAURANTS IN
20:39:18 TAMPA.
20:39:18 I STILL OWN ONE OF THEM.
20:39:21 AND IN THEM, WE HAD PARKING PROBLEMS.
20:39:24 WE DIDN'T TEAR DOWN HOUSES TO SOLVE OUR PARKING PROBLEMS.
20:39:28 WE DIDN'T OBLITERATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SOLVE A PARKING
20:39:32 PROBLEM.
20:39:32 WE DID VARIOUS THINGS INCLUDING HAVING VALET PARKING, AND
20:39:37 ON ONE OCCASION, WE APPEARED BEFORE A VERY AUGUST,
20:39:40 LEGISLATIVE BODY ON A PARKING ISSUE.
20:39:43 THAT BODY WAS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
20:39:46 AND THEY ORDERED US, THEY SAID IF YOU WANT TO ENHANCE
20:39:50 THIS BUILDING, YOU WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING
20:39:54 ISSUE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO GET REMOTE PARKING.
20:39:58 THEY ORDERED IT.
20:39:59 IT WAS THE 909 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, IF YOU WANT TO
20:40:02 CHECK THE RECORD.
20:40:03 THE OUTPOST RESTAURANT.
20:40:05 WE OWNED IT, AND WE DID WHAT THEY SAID.
20:40:08 WE GOT THE REMOTE PARKING.
20:40:09 WE DIDN'T DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:40:11 NOW THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA OWNS THAT PROPERTY AND THE
20:40:13 NEIGHBORHOOD WASN'T DESTROYED.
20:40:15 DON'T LET THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BE DESTROYED.
20:40:18 LITTLE BY LITTLE IT WILL BE BECAUSE IT'S VERY SMALL.
20:40:21 YOU SEE IT ALREADY, THERE ARE PARKING LOTS AROUND.
20:40:24 THIS PETITIONER HERE COULD GET REMOTE PARKING, PROBABLY
20:40:28 FROM THE MEDICAL CENTER THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT.
20:40:31 THEY DON'T OPERATE AT NIGHT.
20:40:33 DON'T LET THEM TEAR DOWN A HOUSE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL
20:40:36 NEIGHBORHOOD AND DETRACT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:40:39 PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, DENY THIS PETITION.
20:40:42 THANK YOU.
20:40:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:40:44 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:40:45 MA'AM?
20:40:54 >> GOOD EVENING.
20:40:55 MY NAME IS CAROL KILGORE.
20:40:56 MY HUSBAND AND I OWN TWO HOMES ON ROLAND STREET.
20:41:01 3617 AND 3618.
20:41:05 I BOUGHT THE FIRST HOUSE IN 1960, AND I'VE RAISED FIVE
20:41:10 CHILDREN THERE.
20:41:11 MY HUSBAND AND I OWN 3617.
20:41:16 IT'S A RENTAL AND IT'S NEXT DOOR TO 3619 WHICH IS TO BE
20:41:21 DESTROYED.
20:41:22 IT'S RS-60 NEIGHBORHOOD SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING, AND WE'VE
20:41:28 OWNED IT SINCE 1992 AND MY MOTHER AND FATHER HAD IT
20:41:32 BEFORE THAT 25 YEARS.
20:41:34 AND WE'RE AFRAID OF THE PARKING OF THE CARS AND
20:41:37 DISTURBING OF THE TENANTS THAT WE HAVE AND THEIR PRIVACY
20:41:44 FROM THE NOISE AND THE LIGHTS, ET CETERA.
20:41:47 AND THE SAFETY FROM THE PARKING OF THE CARS FROM AT LEAST
20:41:51 10 A.M. TO 10 P.M. OR LATER.
20:41:54 FROM THE RESTAURANT.
20:41:57 AND THE FACT THERE IS ONLY EIGHT FEET BETWEEN THE
20:42:00 PROPERTY LINE AND THE PLASTIC FENCE AND THE DRAINAGE OF
20:42:03 WATER RUNOFF FROM AS FAULT PAVING AND CAUSING RODENTS AND
20:42:08 BUGS, ET CETERA.
20:42:09 THIS IS STORMWATER.
20:42:13 IT'S A SHODDY PLANNING AND IS INEFFICIENT.
20:42:19 THE WAIVER MR. GAINES IS ASKING FOR IS UNACCEPTABLE AND
20:42:24 SUBSTANDARD -- ON A SUBSTANDARD LOT.
20:42:27 3619.
20:42:30 PLEASE DENY MR. GAINES' REQUEST.
20:42:36 WE'VE HAD A NICE HOME THERE, AND IT'S QUIET AND WE'RE
20:42:48 AFRAID OF LOSING OUR EQUITY IN BOTH OF THE HOMES BECAUSE
20:42:52 IT WILL BE SUBSTANDARD AFTER THAT.
20:42:54 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
20:42:56 THANK YOU.
20:42:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:42:57 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:43:00 >> HI.
20:43:01 LORETTA FAZIO.
20:43:03 3604 WEST CLEVELAND.
20:43:05 L-O-R-E-T-T-A.
20:43:08 F-A-Z-I-O.
20:43:11 I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS, AND WE'VE HAD THE LUXURY OF
20:43:17 RENZO BEING THERE.
20:43:18 IT'S A GREAT LITTLE RESTAURANT BUT THEY NEVER HAD ENOUGH
20:43:21 PARKING AND THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO PARK NEXT DOOR.
20:43:23 IT'S BEEN GREAT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT NOW THAT'S CHANGED.
20:43:26 SO I UNDERSTAND THE INVESTMENT.
20:43:31 HE HAS A SHOP CENTER AND WANTS TO KEEP THE PARKING.
20:43:34 THERE'S NO WINNING.
20:43:35 ONE WILL HAVE TO PAY.
20:43:36 WE'RE ASKING, WE BOUGHT THE INVESTMENT OF OUR HOUSES,
20:43:40 NOTHING HAS CHANGED FOR US.
20:43:42 WE'RE ASKING, PLEASE KEEP OUR INVESTMENTS BECAUSE THINGS
20:43:45 HAVEN'T CHANGED FOR US.
20:43:47 THE CHANGE HAS HAPPENED AT THE STRIP CENTER AND THE
20:43:50 PARKING WHERE THEY WERE USING IT.
20:43:52 THEY ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO FIND ALTERNATIVES
20:43:54 SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:43:56 WE'RE ASKING, PLEASE KEEP OUR HOUSES.
20:44:00 WE HAVE, LIKE THEY TALKED ALL ALONG, CONSTRAINTS.
20:44:03 THERE USED TO BE HOUSES ALL THE WAY TO DALE MABRY.
20:44:06 USED TO BE SOME ON KENNEDY ALL ON THE FRONT.
20:44:08 THAT'S ALL CHANGED.
20:44:10 JUST PLEASE, PLEASE, STERLING IS THE INSIDE OF OUR
20:44:13 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:44:13 IF ONE GOES, THERE'S ANOTHER SALON DOWN THE STREET THAT
20:44:18 IS -- THAT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, THEY'LL BE
20:44:21 LOOKING AT THE HOUSE BEHIND THEM AND IT WILL CHANGE
20:44:24 EVERYTHING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:44:25 WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU PLEASE DENY THE WAIVER.
20:44:28 THANK YOU.
20:44:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:44:29 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:44:30 SIR, THIS SIDE.
20:44:31 THEY ARE GOING TO SANITIZE THAT ONE.
20:44:34 >> GOOD EVENING.
20:44:35 MY NAME IS RONALD KILGORE.
20:44:38 WE OWN THE PROPERTY MY WIFE AND I AT 3617 AND 3618.
20:44:44 THE PROPERTY AT 3617, OF COURSE, IS RENTED RIGHT NOW.
20:44:49 I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
20:44:55 PRESERVATION OF OUR VALUES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO RECENTLY
20:44:58 PURCHASED HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, VERY FINE PEOPLE.
20:45:01 NOW, MR. GAINES MENTIONED TO YOU JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO
20:45:05 THAT HE HAS A LIST OF ALL THE PERSONS WHO WERE FOR THIS
20:45:12 LAND CHANGE SPECIAL USE.
20:45:14 WELL, I THINK IN FRONT OF EACH ONE OF YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU
20:45:17 HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE PERSONS WHO OPPOSE.
20:45:20 IS THAT TRUE?
20:45:21 DO YOU HAVE THAT LIST?
20:45:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
20:45:25 I BELIEVE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THEM AS WELL.
20:45:28 >> I VERY MUCH OPPOSE THIS ENTIRE PROCESS BECAUSE IT
20:45:32 COMPROMISES THE VALUE WE HAVE IN ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES.
20:45:37 THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH GOOD PLANNING TO
20:45:42 HAVE A PARKING LOT ON SUCH A NICE STREET THAT WE HAVE.
20:45:48 I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE OTHER PARKING LOT ON
20:45:52 ROLAND STREET WAS REQUIRED TO BE SET BACK TO BE EVEN WITH
20:45:56 THE FRONT YARD SETBACK OF HOMES.
20:45:59 THIS ONE IS ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO EXTEND ALL THE WAY.
20:46:04 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
20:46:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:46:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:46:11 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:46:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAD A QUESTION FOR THAT GENTLEMAN.
20:46:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
20:46:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIR, COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
20:46:23 YOU COULD JUST GO TO THE MICROPHONE.
20:46:32 I THINK YOUR PROPERTIES ARE IMMEDIATELY, WHAT, ADJACENT
20:46:40 OR ACROSS THE STREET.
20:46:42 >> 3617 IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE 3619 PROPERTY.
20:46:50 IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY TWO SCHOOLTEACHERS AT PLANT
20:46:54 HIGH SCHOOL.
20:46:55 THEY HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT JOB RIGHT NOW.
20:46:58 ANY TYPE OF NOISE OR INTRUSION IN THAT PARKING LOT IS
20:47:04 GOING TO BE A DIRECT PROBLEM FOR THOSE TENANTS THAT I
20:47:08 HAVE.
20:47:08 I'M TRYING TO PRESERVE A PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT FOR MY
20:47:13 TENANTS.
20:47:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
20:47:16 MY QUESTION IS THIS, YOU MADE THE POINT AT THE VERY END
20:47:20 OF YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT -- I THINK IT'S THE THIRD
20:47:29 WAIVER.
20:47:30 NO, IT IS THE FIRST WAIVER THEY ARE ASKING FOR, IN TERMS
20:47:33 OF THE ADDITIONAL 27.5 FEET, THAT THEY ARE COMING A
20:47:38 LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO ROLAND STREET.
20:47:41 THE FIRST WAIVER SAYS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE 100 FEET AND
20:47:45 LOOKING FOR THE WHOLE 127 FEET LOOKS LIKE FOR AN
20:47:50 ADDITIONAL THREE PARKING SPACES.
20:47:52 IF THEY WEREN'T DOING THAT, WOULD YOU STILL HAVE A
20:47:54 PROBLEM WITH THIS ENTIRE PARKING LOT?
20:47:58 >> YES.
20:47:58 YES, SIR, I WOULD.
20:48:01 IT DOESN'T FIT IN WITH THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS TO
20:48:06 HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE WE'RE PAYING TAXES ON AN
20:48:10 RS-6 PROPERTY AND THEN SUDDENLY I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING
20:48:16 AT A SPECIAL USE PARKING LOT.
20:48:20 IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO FIT IN WITH THE GREATER
20:48:23 PLAN FOR A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:48:25 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER.
20:48:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WASN'T
20:48:30 YOUR ONLY ISSUE.
20:48:31 YOU HAVE THE ISSUE WITH THE BIGGER PICTURE.
20:48:33 >> THE BIG PICTURE.
20:48:34 I TOTALLY OPPOSE IT.
20:48:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:48:36 YES, SIR.
20:48:37 >> HI.
20:48:37 MY NAME IS RICHARD WHEELER.
20:48:41 R-I-C-H-A-R-D W-H-E-E-L-E-R.
20:48:47 I LIVE AT 3610 WEST ROLAND STREET DOWN THE STREET FROM
20:48:52 THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
20:48:54 I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY ONE THING TO BEGIN WITH, I'M OPPOSED
20:49:00 TO THAT, OF COURSE.
20:49:03 THE PETITIONERS MADE REFERENCE TO THE PARKING LOT THAT
20:49:09 EXISTS RIGHT NOW DOWN AT THE CORNER OF HIMES AND ROLAND
20:49:13 STREET.
20:49:18 AT THE TIME THE ZONING WAS AFFECTED AND WHATEVER HAPPENED
20:49:24 TO THAT, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT THAT TIME THAT WAS
20:49:31 A SPANISH RESTAURANT THAT WAS OPENING ON KENNEDY WHERE
20:49:34 THE MEDICAL CLINIC IS NOW.
20:49:37 THAT CONTRACTOR WANTED TO UTILIZE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY ALL
20:49:42 THE WAY TO THE SIDEWALK ON ROLAND STREET FOR PARKING.
20:49:48 HE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY, WHAT WE NEEDED
20:49:52 TO DO, AND HE GOT PERMISSION, I GUESS, TO RUN UP TO THE
20:49:58 100-FOOT LINE.
20:50:01 HE PUT IN A CONCRETE WALL THAT WENT OUT TO THE SIDEWALK.
20:50:04 IN OTHER WORDS, HE TOOK THE ADDITIONAL 27 FEET OR 30 FEET
20:50:09 OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AND RAN A CONCRETE BLOCK
20:50:12 WALL OUT TO THE SIDEWALK AND AROUND THE SIDEWALK AND BACK
20:50:17 TO THE REST OF THE PARKING LOT.
20:50:19 WHEN THE CITY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, THEY KNEW THAT WOULD
20:50:23 BE DEVASTATING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:50:27 THE CITY REQUIRED HIM TO DEMOLISH THAT WALL.
20:50:30 AND THE REMNANTS OF THAT WALL STILL EXIST TO THAT DAY.
20:50:35 THE STAFF CAN GO OUT THERE ALONG THE SIDEWALK ON ROLAND
20:50:39 STREET AND FIND WHERE THE CONCRETE BLOCK WAS CUT OFF AT
20:50:43 GROUND LEVEL FROM THAT PRIOR WALL, AND THE REASON THAT
20:50:48 THE CITY REQUIRED THAT BE TORN DOWN AND THAT A NEW WALL
20:50:53 BE CONSTRUCTED BACK AT THE 100-FOOT LEVEL IS BECAUSE THE
20:50:58 CITY RECOGNIZED THAT BRINGING THE WALL OUT, THAT 27 TO 30
20:51:05 FEET WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:51:08 ANOTHER THING THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE
20:51:14 BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IT'S ONLY TWO BLOCKS WIDE,
20:51:20 BUT THAT IS THE GATEWAY TO SOUTH TAMPA.
20:51:24 ALMOST EVERYBODY THAT COMES FROM THE AIRPORT, COMES FROM
20:51:27 DOWNTOWN, COMES FROM THE INTERSTATE PROCEEDING TO SOUTH
20:51:33 TAMPA, THEY WILL TAKE HIMES AVENUE DOWN ON THEIR WAY DOWN
20:51:36 TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AREA AND POINTS FURTHER SOUTH.
20:51:41 AND WHAT THEY SEE WHEN THEY DRIVE THROUGH GIVES THEM A
20:51:46 GOOD IDEA ABOUT WHAT TAMPA IS LIKE.
20:51:51 IT'S CRITICAL TO TAMPA THAT BON AIR BE PROTECTED.
20:51:55 IT'S CRITICAL FOR US AS INHABITANTS BUT IT'S ALSO
20:51:59 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO TAMPA.
20:52:00 THERE ARE LARGER ISSUES HERE THAN JUST THAT BLOCK AND
20:52:07 ROLAND STREET.
20:52:08 WE BEG TO YOU PLEASE TURN THIS APPLICATION DOWN.
20:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:52:11 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:52:15 >> MY NAME IS RHETT WALDRON.
20:52:18 R-H-E-T-T W-A-L-D-R-O-N.
20:52:23 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
20:52:25 UPON COMPLETION OF MY GRADUATE STUDIES IN A FEW YEARS, I
20:52:28 HOPE TO PURCHASE 3614 WEST ROLAND STREET FROM MY PARENTS.
20:52:32 I ASK YOU TO DENY THE PROPOSED LOT JUST BECAUSE I FEAR IT
20:52:36 WILL HAVE A DOMINO EFFECT ON THE ROLAND STREET
20:52:40 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:52:40 I HOPE TO RAISE MY OWN FAMILY ON THE STREET AND GIVE THEM
20:52:45 AN EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD GROWING UP, A SMALL
20:52:49 FAMILY-FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT
20:52:52 TOO COMMON IN SOUTH TAMPA ANYMORE.
20:52:55 ROLAND IS A GREAT STREET TO RAISE A FAMILY.
20:53:01 I'M JUST WORRIED THAT BY THE TIME I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
20:53:06 TO OWN A HOUSE THERE, IT WILL NO LONGER EXIST.
20:53:08 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
20:53:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:53:10 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:53:13 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
20:53:15 HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
20:53:16 MY NAME IS RENZO.
20:53:21 I AM THE OPERATING MANAGER AND FAMILY OWNED OF THE
20:53:23 RESTAURANT RENZO'S.
20:53:25 WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 11 YEARS.
20:53:27 I GET ALONG AND I KNOW PRETTY MUCH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN
20:53:30 THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF BON AIR.
20:53:32 I AM A RESIDENT OF NORTH BON AIR MYSELF.
20:53:37 I RENT.
20:53:38 I'M BUILDING MY OWN FAMILY MYSELF.
20:53:43 I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:53:44 WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT IT.
20:53:45 WE ARE A FAMILY-OPERATED RESTAURANT.
20:53:47 OUR HOURS OF OPERATION FROM HER 10 A.M. TO 10 P.M.
20:53:51 WE DO NOT HAVE ALCOHOL.
20:53:53 WE DO NOT HAVE PARTYING.
20:53:55 IT'S FAMILY FRIENDLY.
20:53:56 EVERYBODY COMES WITH THEIR KIDS.
20:53:58 WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GROW LIKE THE REST OF THE
20:54:03 COMMUNITIES, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY THERE.
20:54:05 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE OPERATING THERE.
20:54:09 WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUES WITH PARKING AT THE
20:54:13 MOMENT.
20:54:13 MR. JIM HAS BEEN PROVIDING US WITH THE PARKING LOT NEXT
20:54:16 DOOR FOR A LONG TIME.
20:54:19 IT HAS HELPED US BUT IN THE FUTURE, HE'S GOING TO BE
20:54:22 BUILDING HIS CONDOS AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND WE WILL
20:54:25 NO LONGER HAVE THAT PARKING FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT
20:54:30 WORK THERE FROM THE PRINT SHOP, TO THE HOME GOOD PLACE,
20:54:34 TO RENZO'S ITSELF.
20:54:36 JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.
20:54:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:54:40 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:54:45 >> MY NAME IS MURIEL.
20:54:47 M-U-R-I-E-L
20:54:49 LAST NAME MOORE.
20:54:51 M-O-O-R-E.
20:54:52 I LIVE AT 3612 WEST PLATT STREET.
20:54:56 I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA WHEN I CAME BACK FROM LAW
20:55:00 SCHOOL, CAME BACK HOME, I WANTED A HOME IN MY COMMUNITY.
20:55:03 I LOOKED ALL OVER THE CITY.
20:55:04 I FOUND BON AIR.
20:55:07 YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM MY DAD.
20:55:09 HE LIVED IN BON AIR.
20:55:10 I PURCHASED MY FIRST HOME A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
20:55:13 LIKE MANY PEOPLE, MY HOME IS MY BIGGEST ASSET.
20:55:16 I'M A PUBLIC INTEREST ATTORNEY.
20:55:18 IT IS BASICALLY MY ONLY ASSET AND ITS VALUE IS OF EXTREME
20:55:23 IMPORTANCE TO ME.
20:55:25 ADDITIONALLY, BASED ON MY STATEMENT ABOUT THE
20:55:27 NEIGHBORHOOD, MY AUNT AND UNCLE PURCHASED A HOME ON
20:55:30 ROLAND.
20:55:31 BEST FRIEND MOTHER'S LOOKING FOR A HOME IN BON AIR.
20:55:35 IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE.
20:55:37 MY OWN LOT ABUTS A PROPERTY THAT FRONTS AZEELE.
20:55:41 IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
20:55:43 IT'S A LAW FIRM.
20:55:44 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES LIKE THAT.
20:55:46 MY FEAR IS THAT IF WE HAVE THIS HOME, THIS REALLY
20:55:50 BEAUTIFUL HOME ON ROLAND STREET TURN INTO A PARKING LOT,
20:55:54 THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONE.
20:55:56 IT'S GOING TO PERMANENTLY CHANGE THE FACE OF THE
20:55:59 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:55:59 THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN ACCEPT.
20:56:02 I'M ASKING YOU TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY AND MY NEIGHBOR'S
20:56:05 PROPERTY BY DENYING THIS.
20:56:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:56:08 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
20:56:11 >> GOOD EVENING.
20:56:12 MY NAME IS JIM MIKES M-I-K-E-S.
20:56:18 THE ENTITY THAT I'M SOLE OWNER OF IS THE OWNER 2.1 ACRES
20:56:29 THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT AND THE CVS.
20:56:32 IT HAS TWO BUILDINGS ON IT.
20:56:35 THE CHURCH.
20:56:35 THE CHURCH WHICH I BOUGHT IN 2001.
20:56:40 SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THE CITY CAME TO ME, ALONG WITH
20:56:43 CHRIST THE KING AND ASKED WOULD I HOST THE FAITH CAFE.
20:56:50 I BECAME THE PARIAH FOR THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A
20:56:54 RESULT OF DOING WHAT THE CITY ASKED, WHAT CHRIST THE KING
20:56:59 ASKED AND WE HOSTED THE FAITH CAFE FOR NO COST TO THEM
20:57:04 FOR 12 YEARS.
20:57:05 I HAVE GONE THROUGH A SERIES OF DIFFERENT CONTRACTS,
20:57:12 PROPOSED USES FOR THAT TWO ACRES EXTENDING FROM PUBLIX
20:57:17 CONTRACT TO FIRST CITIZENS BANK AND TRUST, FLORIDA
20:57:23 CENTRAL CREDIT UNION, EACH OF WHICH RAN INTO THEIR OWN
20:57:27 PROBLEMS RELATIVE TO GETTING THE PROPERTY IN A STATE THAT
20:57:31 THEY COULD DEVELOP.
20:57:32 I'VE NOW, IN TALKING WITH RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY SHAWN
20:57:37 -- SHAWN WILSON HAS BEEN MARVELOUS.
20:57:40 AND WITH HIS INPUT, I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT
20:57:44 WHAT I WILL DO IS EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNCIL DID APPROVE
20:57:48 FOR DAVID NACUI AND DAVID IS DEVELOPING 11 TOWNHOMES ON
20:57:54 THE SOUTH SIDE OF ROLAND, ON MY FIVE-PLUS WHATEVER 310
20:58:02 FEET OF ROLAND ON THE NORTH SIDE, I'LL DO A COMPARABLE,
20:58:07 ALTHOUGH UPGRADED VERSION OF WHAT DAVID IS DOING.
20:58:12 I KNOW MARY SAMANIEGO HAS SEEN THE PLAN.
20:58:17 WE STOPPED BECAUSE OF THE COVID ISSUE, BUT THAT WILL BE
20:58:23 BACK BEFORE YOU PROBABLY WITHIN SIX MONTHS, A PD PLAN FOR
20:58:27 19 TOWNHOMES.
20:58:29 A STEP UP OF WHAT DAVID IS DOING.
20:58:32 I'M WILLING TO TAKE THE CHANCE THAT, AND SUPPORT KEEPING
20:58:41 RENZO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:58:43 AND ALLOWING MARK TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HIM WITH ADEQUATE
20:58:48 PARKING TO TAKE THE 12 OR 13 CARS THAT I HAVE ALLOWED FOR
20:58:53 THE LAST 12 OR 13 YEARS TO PARK ON THE PROPERTY WHERE THE
20:58:57 CHURCH IS.
20:58:57 I KNOW SOME OF ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE CHURCH BUILDING,
20:59:04 WHICH I HAVE DONATED THE USE TO A SERIES OF DIFFERENT
20:59:08 CONGREGATIONS.
20:59:09 THE LAST ONE BEING KENNY GANTZ FAITH WORKS, WHO HAD TO
20:59:16 MOVE OUT ONCE THE COVID HIT.
20:59:19 KENNY NO LONGER HAS HIS CHURCH THERE SO RIGHT NOW IT'S
20:59:23 NOT BEING USED.
20:59:24 WE WILL TAKE DOWN THAT BUILDING.
20:59:26 WE WILL BUILD A NEW ONE.
20:59:27 WE WILL BUILD A BUILDING WITH OFFICES ON THE BOTTOM AND
20:59:32 30 STUDIO APARTMENTS ABOVE.
20:59:34 WE'LL TAKE DELEON SHEFFIELD BUILDING.
20:59:39 WE'LL RENOVATE THAT AND TURN THAT INTO -- NOT CHANGE IT
20:59:43 MUCH -- OKAY, EXCUSE ME.
20:59:45 BOTTOM LINE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT
20:59:50 THE VALUES WILL HOLD AND THAT PARKING LOT WILL HAVE NO
20:59:53 NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY ABILITY TO DEVELOP THE TOWNHOMES
20:59:58 ADJACENT TO IT THAT WILL SELL VERY HIGH PRICES.
21:00:02 THANK YOU.
21:00:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:00:04 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
21:00:07 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:00:09 MY NAME IS SHELLY RUMENIK.
21:00:10 S-H-E-L-L-Y.
21:00:12 R-U-M-E-N-I-K.
21:00:15 I CURRENTLY OWN A HOME ON STERLING AND CLEVELAND STREET.
21:00:21 I HAVE A FAMILY WITH TWO CHILDREN.
21:00:23 WE ARE OUTSIDE, AS MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS CAN ATTEST TO,
21:00:27 EVERY DAY, WALKING, COLORING ON THE SIDEWALKS, RIDING OUR
21:00:30 TRICYCLES, EXERCISING, ALL OF THE ABOVE.
21:00:33 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO START BY SAYING THIS IS PROBABLY NOT
21:00:36 THE FAIREST REPRESENTATION OF ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO
21:00:39 WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT THIS
21:00:42 BECAUSE OF THE COVID AND BECAUSE PEOPLE COULDN'T GET
21:00:45 SITTERS BECAUSE OF THAT AND ALSO THE WEATHER DIDN'T HELP.
21:00:49 I THINK OUR NUMBERS WOULD BE EVEN LARGER THAN YOU SEE
21:00:52 HERE TODAY.
21:00:53 I'M ASKING YOU TO FORMALLY DENY EACH ONE OF THE
21:00:56 APPLICANT'S REQUESTS AS WELL.
21:00:58 THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS SAID.
21:01:00 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE BON AIR MURAL ON THE SIDE
21:01:05 OF THE BUILDING THAT HE REFERRED TO, I DON'T CARE FOR IT.
21:01:09 I KNOW PLENTY OF OTHER PEOPLE DON'T CARE FOR IT.
21:01:12 THAT'S ONE THING HE SAID THAT IS HELPFUL TO OUR
21:01:14 NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT WE APPRECIATE.
21:01:16 I'M NOT SURE THAT IS THE CASE.
21:01:18 LIKE ALSO STATED, HE HAS USED THE PROPERTY JIM MIKES
21:01:25 OWNS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS AND YEARS OF PROMISES AND
21:01:30 IDEAS FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY.
21:01:34 THAT HASN'T COME TO FRUITION.
21:01:37 I HOPE IT DOES, BUT IT'S BEEN TONS AND TONS OF PROMISES.
21:01:42 I DON'T SEE THAT PARKING OPTION FOR THEM GOING AWAY.
21:01:45 TRUTHFULLY, I AS A RESIDENT ON STERLING AND CLEVELAND
21:01:48 JUST ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF ROLAND WELCOME ON-STREET PARKING
21:01:54 BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC AND THE SPEEDING DOWN OUR ROAD ON
21:01:58 STERLING IS INSANE.
21:02:01 IT'S DANGEROUS.
21:02:03 AND I ONLY THINK PEOPLE PULLING OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT
21:02:08 WILL DO THE SAME THING.
21:02:10 I APPRECIATE THEM SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO PUT THE RIGHT
21:02:13 TURN ONLY, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE
21:02:16 ENFORCED.
21:02:19 AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
21:02:22 WE ALSO HEARD THEM SAY THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T A NEED FOR
21:02:26 MORE SPOTS.
21:02:32 AND THERE -- SORRY.
21:02:33 THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR MORE SPOTS AND THERE'S BEEN NO
21:02:38 COMPLAINTS ABOUT ON-STREET PARKING OR ADDITIONAL PARKING.
21:02:42 SO THEY ARE TRYING TO TEAR DOWN ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS,
21:02:47 ONE OF THE HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR NO REASON.
21:02:50 I'D ALSO LIKE TO STATE THAT ANYONE OR MOST PEOPLE WHO
21:02:54 MAYBE SIGNED IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECOMING A PARKING LOT
21:02:58 LIKELY LIVE SOUTH OF AZEELE, WHICH IS NOT DIRECTLY
21:03:02 AFFECTED BY THIS.
21:03:04 AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MAYBE SIGNED
21:03:08 THAT, THAT THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PARKING LOT ARE NOT
21:03:11 HERE TO SUPPORT IT IN PERSON.
21:03:14 IT DIDN'T MATTER ENOUGH TO THEM.
21:03:17 WE WILL NOT ALLOW A HOUSE TO BE TORN DOWN AND REPLACED BY
21:03:21 A PARKING LOT.
21:03:22 LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAID, THE INTRUSION TO OUR
21:03:27 NEIGHBORHOOD WILL NOT STOP IF YOU ALL ALLOW THAT.
21:03:30 WE'RE ASKING YOU AND I'M PERSONALLY BEGGING YOU, FOR ME
21:03:33 AND MY CHILDREN AND OUR INVESTMENT INTO BON AIR TO PLEASE
21:03:38 DENY THIS PARKING LOT.
21:03:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:03:41 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
21:03:43 >> MY NAME IS GUS TSAMBIS.
21:03:53 I LIVE AT -- THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS UP EARLIER.
21:03:58 NOW IT'S UP.
21:03:59 I LIVE IN THIS HOUSE.
21:04:01 3606 WEST ROLAND.
21:04:05 OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S THE HOUSE -- OH, I DIDN'T SPELL MY
21:04:11 NAME.
21:04:11 IT'S G-U-S T-S-A-M-B-I-S.
21:04:20 I AM SPEAKING AGAINST THE PARKING LOT.
21:04:22 BASICALLY, THIS IS WHAT I LOOK AT EVERY MORNING.
21:04:25 THAT IS THE WALL AND THE PIPE.
21:04:32 I GUESS THAT'S A LIFT STATION OF SORTS FOR WATER.
21:04:35 THESE ARE THE OTHER HOUSES THAT MR. GAINES SHOWED THE
21:04:39 EMPTY LOT PRIOR TO THEM BEING BUILT.
21:04:43 OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT.
21:04:45 WE MOVED TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:04:48 WE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT IMMEDIATELY AND WE JUST DON'T
21:04:52 WANT IT -- I SAW HOPE BECAUSE I CAN LOOK TO MY LEFT AND
21:04:57 NOT HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE PIPES.
21:05:00 NOW, I SEE IF WE HAVE THIS ON ONE SIDE OF ROLAND AND THEN
21:05:04 WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER
21:05:07 SIDE, I DON'T SEE HOW IT COULD NOT DIMINISH THE VALUE OF
21:05:11 THE PROPERTY.
21:05:12 WE DO FEEL AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP HERE THAT ALTOGETHER IT
21:05:19 WOULD DIMINISH THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY.
21:05:22 THAT'S WHY WE'RE SPEAKING AGAINST IT.
21:05:24 I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE OF IF
21:05:29 AND WHY HE NEEDS IT, BUT AS IT'S EVIDENT THAT THERE'S
21:05:34 PLENTY OF PARKING SPACES FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT EXIST
21:05:37 THERE.
21:05:38 THE POINT IS, EVEN IF THERE WAS ONLY, IF YOU REDUCED IT
21:05:43 FROM 13 TO 12 TO 10 SPACES, THAT WOULD ONLY BE ENOUGH
21:05:47 SPACES PERHAPS FOR HIS EMPLOYEES.
21:05:49 THE EMPLOYEES ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PARK ON ROLAND
21:05:53 STREET, AND I THINK ALL OF US WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
21:05:56 AGAIN, I SPOKE AGAINST IT, AND I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION
21:06:03 RULES IN OUR FAVOR.
21:06:04 THANK YOU.
21:06:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:06:05 MR. CARLSON.
21:06:06 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK YOU, SIR, YOU JUST SAID YOU AND
21:06:10 YOU THINK MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OKAY IF THE PATRONS
21:06:14 PARK ON ROLAND STREET.
21:06:15 IS THERE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET?
21:06:18 >> NO.
21:06:18 USUALLY ONE SIDE.
21:06:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL ARE OKAY IF THE CARS FILLED --
21:06:22 >> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS NOW.
21:06:24 THEY ARE BUILDING A HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME
21:06:27 AND THEY PARK THERE CONSTANTLY.
21:06:29 AS THEY POINTED OUT, THE PICTURE THAT MR. GAINES SHOWED,
21:06:34 THE KIDS THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, THEY ARE COLLEGE
21:06:37 KIDS, THEY HAD A BIG PARTY.
21:06:39 THIS IS BEFORE COVID-19.
21:06:41 THERE WAS PROBABLY A HUNDRED CARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:06:46 ACTUALLY, IT WASN'T A BAD SITUATION.
21:06:49 IT'S NOT -- BECAUSE IT'S ONLY PARKED ON ONE SIDE OF THE
21:06:55 ROAD.
21:06:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:06:57 NEXT SPEAKER.
21:07:12 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
21:07:14 I'M JAMES LASS.
21:07:15 J-A-M-E-S.
21:07:19 L-A-S-S.
21:07:21 I LIVE AT 3616 WEST ROLAND STREET.
21:07:22 I ACTUALLY LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE KILGORES.
21:07:24 WHEN I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, I'M LOOKING RIGHT ACROSS
21:07:29 THE STREET AT A PARKING LOT.
21:07:31 FIRST OF ALL, I TALKED TO MR. GAINES AND MR. GAINES
21:07:38 DOESN'T LIVE IN BON AIR.
21:07:39 HE HAS THAT STRIP CENTER IN BON AIR.
21:07:41 HE LIVES IN HYDE PARK NEAR A FRIEND OF MINE.
21:07:45 MR. GAINES DOES NOT WANT A PARKING LOT NEXT TO HIS HOUSE
21:07:49 OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIS HOUSE.
21:07:51 THEY SHOWED A LOT OF BAD PICTURES WITH THE WORST ANGLES
21:07:58 OF ROLAND STREET THAT THERE IS.
21:08:02 IT'S ACTUALLY BEAUTIFUL.
21:08:03 MY HOUSE IS BEAUTIFUL.
21:08:04 MANY BEAUTIFUL HOUSES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET.
21:08:06 IT'S A GORGEOUS NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:08:08 IF THEY TURN THAT INTO A PARKING LOT, IT CHANGES
21:08:12 EVERYTHING.
21:08:12 BY THE WAY, RENZO'S DOES SELL WINE AND BEER.
21:08:18 THEY MAY NOT SELL LIQUOR BUT THEY SELL WINE AND BEER.
21:08:22 COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:08:27 NOT ONLY ARE THEY ASKING FOR A PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE
21:08:31 HOUSE AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM HOUSE.
21:08:35 WHAT IS PLANNED IS TO HAVE A PARKING LOT PROTRUDE OUT IN
21:08:41 FRONT OF ALL THE FRONT ELEVATIONS OF THE HOME ON ROLAND
21:08:45 STREET.
21:08:45 IT'S SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE.
21:08:47 THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD NOT SUFFER BECAUSE A COMMERCIAL
21:08:49 OWNER HAS DECIDED TO LEASE TO TENANTS WITHOUT ADEQUATE
21:08:53 PARKING SPACES.
21:08:54 AGAIN, IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE WHOLE
21:08:58 NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:08:58 I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE ALL THE NEIGHBORS, THE KILGORES
21:09:02 HAVE BEEN THERE ABOUT 45 YEARS.
21:09:04 IT LITERALLY WOULD BE A PARKING LOT BESIDE ONE OF THEIR
21:09:07 HOUSES, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE WINDOW.
21:09:09 AS THEY WOKE UP IN THE MORNING, THEY WOULD BE STARING AT
21:09:12 A PARKING LOT.
21:09:14 IT WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE STREET, WHICH HAS BECOME
21:09:17 BEAUTIFUL OVER THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS.
21:09:20 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR TIME.
21:09:22 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
21:09:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:09:24 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
21:09:30 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
21:09:32 MY NAME IS ROBIN WALK.
21:09:34 R-O-B-Y-N-W-A-L-K.
21:09:39 I LIVE IN THE SAME BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:09:40 BUT I LIVE SOUTH OF AZEELE, SO I AM ONE OF THOSE MANY
21:09:44 RESIDENTS FROM THAT AREA WHO ALSO DISAGREE AND OPPOSE
21:09:47 THIS VARIANCE TO BE ISSUED TO THE PLAINTIFF.
21:09:51 SAME ISSUE.
21:09:52 I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND AZEELE.
21:09:55 IT'S A COMMERCIAL USE.
21:09:56 IT'S MIXED COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, AND I WOULD BE
21:09:59 LIKE THE REST OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
21:10:03 I WOULD BE FACED WITH LOOKING AT PARKING LOTS NEXT TO MY
21:10:05 RESIDENTS.
21:10:06 I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 25 YEARS.
21:10:08 I LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS COME HERE TONIGHT WANTS TO
21:10:11 HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BE PROTECTED FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE
21:10:14 TRYING TO BUILD INTO AND ENCROACH INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL
21:10:18 NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:10:19 NOBODY IS AGAINST BUSINESSES FROM THRIVING.
21:10:23 THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
21:10:25 HOWEVER, IF IT NEGATIVELY IMPOSES OUR RESIDENTIAL
21:10:28 NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR PROPERTY VALUES, WE ARE OPPOSING IT
21:10:31 STRONGLY.
21:10:32 WE ASK YOU TO OPPOSE IT AS WELL.
21:10:34 THANK YOU.
21:10:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:10:36 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
21:10:41 >> HELLO.
21:10:41 MY NAME IS ROBERT.
21:10:43 I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO DO THIS TODAY.
21:10:45 MY MOM IS CAROL KILGORE.
21:10:50 MY STEPDAD IS RON.
21:10:51 ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS IS RICHARD WHEELER DOWN THERE.
21:10:55 I GREW UP ON ROLAND STREET.
21:10:58 BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT WOULD BREAK MY HEART TO
21:11:02 SEE THIS HAPPEN.
21:11:03 IT IS A GORGEOUS LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:11:06 JUST A GORGEOUS NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:11:09 PLEASE DON'T ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
21:11:12 THAT'S ALL.
21:11:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:11:15 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
21:11:19 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF CITY
21:11:22 COUNCIL.
21:11:22 SHAWN WILSON, 3714 WEST ROLAND STREET.
21:11:26 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD
21:11:28 ASSOCIATION.
21:11:29 AND WE DID -- THIS WILL BE BETTER.
21:11:34 WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND EXTREMELY
21:11:36 WELL-ATTENDED NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING EARLY MARCH.
21:11:39 MR. GAINES CAME AND MR. GRANDOFF CAME.
21:11:43 THE BEST ATTENDED MEETING WE EVER HAD.
21:11:45 WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION THAT I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO RESULT
21:11:48 IN A MODIFIED PLAN WHERE THEY WOULD GET RID OF WAIVER
21:11:53 NUMBER ONE AND MAYBE ADD MASONRY WALLS INSTEAD OF PVC,
21:11:57 BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THAT, SO I'M AGAINST WHAT THEY
21:12:02 PROPOSED.
21:12:02 NOW, I LOVE RENZO'S.
21:12:06 THAT'S MY FAVORITE SPOT.
21:12:08 RENZO'S IS A NEIGHBORHOOD TREASURE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO
21:12:11 HURT RENZO'S.
21:12:13 BUT HERE'S THE THING.
21:12:14 THIS PARKING LOT HAS 12 OR 13 SPACES.
21:12:19 GUESS WHAT, THERE ARE STREET SPACES ON STERLING RIGHT AT
21:12:22 THE HOUSE.
21:12:24 I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN --
21:12:33 >> PUT IT DOWN.
21:12:34 IT ACTIVATES.
21:12:34 LITTLE FURTHER DOWN.
21:12:35 >> HERE'S RENZO'S.
21:12:42 HERE'S THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT.
21:12:43 YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PARALLEL PARK RIGHT HERE, BUT IT'S
21:12:47 REALLY POORLY MARKED, AND THERE'S NO CURB PAINTING AT
21:12:52 ALL.
21:12:54 BASED ON MY MARKING IT OFF, YOU COULD FIT ABOUT SIX CARS
21:12:58 RIGHT THERE, PARALLEL ON STERLING.
21:13:00 NOBODY EVER USES THEM.
21:13:02 ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE MS. RUMENIK LIVES,
21:13:08 BETWEEN ROLAND AND CLEVELAND ON THE WEST SIDE OF
21:13:11 STERLING, DITTO.
21:13:12 YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PARALLEL PARK THERE.
21:13:15 NO ONE EVER PARKS THERE.
21:13:16 WHY?
21:13:17 IT'S POORLY MARKED.
21:13:19 THERE ARE NO-PARKING SIGNS NEXT TO THE CORNER.
21:13:22 WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRIVING THEY DON'T REALIZE IT'S ONLY
21:13:25 RIGHT THERE.
21:13:25 YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PARK IN BETWEEN THE SIGNS.
21:13:27 THERE'S ENOUGH FOR ABOUT SIX SPACES.
21:13:29 TO ME, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD SPEND ALL THAT MONEY TO
21:13:33 BUY A LOT AND IMPROVE IT WHEN YOU'VE GOT STREET SPACES.
21:13:38 FOR ONCE, YOU'RE TALKING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE DON'T
21:13:42 CARE IF YOU PARK IN THE STREET.
21:13:44 WE GET A TON OF CUT-THRU TRAFFIC.
21:13:47 HAVING PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET CUTS DOWN ON CUT THROUGH
21:13:51 TRAFFIC AND MAYBE EVEN ELIMINATES IT.
21:13:54 TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
21:13:55 WHEN MR. GAINES FIRST KNOCKED ON MY DOOR A YEAR AGO, HE
21:14:02 SAID, WELL, I'M EITHER GOING TO DO A PARKING LOT OR
21:14:05 McMANSION.
21:14:07 OKAY, DO A McMANSION.
21:14:08 THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING.
21:14:10 ROLAND STREET AND BON AIR ARE BEING REDEVELOPED.
21:14:14 IT'S GREAT.
21:14:15 AND THIS IS GOING TO KIND OF KILL IT.
21:14:17 YOU HEARD MR. MIKES SAY HE WOULD PUT 19 TOWNHOMES.
21:14:21 THAT'S FINE.
21:14:21 I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN 11
21:14:25 TOWNHOMES CAME FOR ITS ZONING APPROVAL AND I STOOD BEFORE
21:14:28 YOU AND SUPPORTED IT.
21:14:30 WE'RE NOT ANTIDEVELOPMENT BUT WE'RE ANTIUNDEVELOPMENT.
21:14:34 TEARING DOWN A HOUSE TO PUT A PARKING LOT IS UNDEVELOPING
21:14:37 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
21:14:41 LIKE I SAY, HAVING SAID THAT, WE DON'T WANT TO HURT
21:14:45 RENZO'S.
21:14:46 THEY ARE A TREASURED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSET.
21:14:49 WE LOVE THEM, TOO.
21:14:50 THE PRINT SHOP, HAIR SHOP AND REFLEXOLOGY.
21:14:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:14:56 ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
21:14:57 IS THIS THE LAST SPEAKER?
21:15:02 ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
21:15:04 GREAT.
21:15:07 >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
21:15:09 MY NAME IS MAMIE.
21:15:11 M AS IN MARY, A, M AS IN MARY, I-E.
21:15:20 LAST NAME WISE, W-I-S-E.
21:15:20 AND HELLO.
21:15:20 MANY OF YOU I HAVEN'T EVEN MET BECAUSE I'M NOT NEW TO THE
21:15:23 NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:15:24 MY HUSBAND, WHO WORKS AT THE CORPORATE OFFICE OF AN
21:15:27 INSURANCE COMPANY, AND I'M AN ATTORNEY IN TOWN, HAVE
21:15:29 LIVED IN TAMPA A LONG TIME.
21:15:30 WE LOOKED AT LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO FIND A BIGGER HOUSE
21:15:33 FOR A FAMILY AND WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS ONE.
21:15:36 SHORTLY BEFORE THE CORONAVIRUS HIT AND WE JUST MOVED INTO
21:15:40 THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THEN.
21:15:41 I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
21:15:43 BUT WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:15:48 IT IS A GREAT FAMILY FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:15:51 WE HAVE TWO KIDS, ONE AND THREE.
21:15:53 SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON LOCKDOWN, IT IS THE FIRST I'VE BEEN
21:15:57 OUT OF THE HOUSE IN MONTHS WITH THIS MANY PEOPLE.
21:15:59 IT'S THAT IMPORTANT THAT I COME AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT
21:16:02 THIS.
21:16:03 WE WALK THE DOG.
21:16:04 WE RIDE IN THE RED WAGON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:16:07 WE COLOR ON THE SIDEWALK WITH SIDEWALK CHALK.
21:16:09 FRANKLY, IF THERE WERE COMMERCIAL PARKING IN THE
21:16:12 NEIGHBORHOOD, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AS INTERESTED TO
21:16:14 MOVE THERE.
21:16:15 I THINK A LOT OF OTHER FAMILIES FEEL THE SAME.
21:16:17 I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT HIMES IS ONE THING AND
21:16:22 STERLING IS ANOTHER.
21:16:23 I COULDN'T HAVE TOLD YOU I LIVED IN TAMPA A LONG TIME,
21:16:26 BUT I COULDN'T HAVE TOLD YOU MUCH ABOUT STERLING.
21:16:29 EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE HIMES IS.
21:16:30 MUCH MORE COMMERCIAL THAN STERLING.
21:16:32 AND I THINK THAT THE PARKING LOT ON HIMES DOES NOT
21:16:37 JUSTIFY THIS PARKING LOT ON STERLING.
21:16:39 PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST.
21:16:40 THANK YOU.
21:16:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:16:42 SIR?
21:16:43 AND THIS IS OUR LAST SPEAKER, I BELIEVE.
21:16:48 >> JASON WALLS.
21:16:49 J-A-S-O-N-W-A-L-L-S.
21:16:52 I'M GOING TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID.
21:16:58 MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TWO AND A
21:17:01 HALF YEARS.
21:17:02 WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE NEW LARGE HOMES.
21:17:05 HOPE TO HAVE A FAMILY SOON.
21:17:07 WE'RE ONE STREET OFF OF THAT AT 3609 WEST CLEVELAND, BUT
21:17:11 I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE HOME PRICES THAT HAVE BEEN SAID
21:17:14 AS FAR AS AN INVESTMENT ARE STRONG, BUT I KNOW IF I WAS
21:17:19 MOVING IN WITH FURTHER DEVELOPMENT, THE TREES HAVE BEEN
21:17:22 TAKEN DOWN.
21:17:25 A PARKING LOT DOES TAKE AWAY FROM THE FEEL.
21:17:27 I PERSONALLY HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS.
21:17:29 I HAVE LOTS OF EMPLOYEES.
21:17:30 I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO WANT TO DO BETTER FOR MY
21:17:34 EMPLOYEES, WELL-BEING AND HEALTH OF MY BUSINESS.
21:17:40 BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES AROUND.
21:17:43 THERE IS ONE ON THE CORNER OF DALE MABRY AND KENNEDY,
21:17:46 MASSIVE PARKING GARAGE.
21:17:48 ACROSS IS ANOTHER ONE.
21:17:49 ALL THAT VACANT PARKING FOR STAPLES AND OFFICE DEPOT,
21:17:55 WHATEVER THAT PLACE IS.
21:17:56 THERE ARE SO MANY AREAS, TO DO REMOTE PARKING.
21:18:04 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN EXPLORED.
21:18:05 THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD BE EXPLORING.
21:18:07 I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SPEAK ABOUT THAT.
21:18:11 I THINK THAT WAS A PARTY IN FEBRUARY AROUND GASPARILLA.
21:18:14 OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE WALKING AROUND AND DON'T SEE THAT
21:18:17 ISSUE.
21:18:17 I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY ROOM FOR MORE PEOPLE TO COME.
21:18:20 THANK YOU.
21:18:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:18:22 ALL RIGHT, SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT -- MR.
21:18:27 DINGFELDER.
21:18:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
21:18:30 I DIDN'T CATCH HIM BEFORE HE LEFT.
21:18:32 BUT I THINK HE'S BACK THERE IN THE CORNER.
21:18:35 TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, I MISSED YOUR NAME
21:18:48 BEFORE.
21:18:48 >> SHAWN WILSON.
21:18:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SHAWN, MR. WILSON.
21:18:53 ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO MEDIATE AND
21:18:56 COMPROMISE.
21:18:57 YOU MENTIONED THAT WHEN MR. GRANDOFF, MR. GAINES CAME TO
21:19:02 VISIT THE ASSOCIATION YOU WERE EXPECTING OR PERHAPS
21:19:06 HOPING THAT THEY MIGHT I GUESS BACK OFF TO THE 100-FOOT
21:19:13 LINE.
21:19:14 THAT WOULD RESULT IN WHAT I SEE TO BE AT LEAST THREE LESS
21:19:18 SPACES.
21:19:18 WHICH IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE TO YOU, I'M SURE.
21:19:24 BUT IN THAT REGARD, IF THEY HAD DONE THAT ARGUABLY, WOULD
21:19:30 YOU AND/OR YOUR ASSOCIATION, YOUR NEIGHBORS BE AS
21:19:34 VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS?
21:19:37 >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
21:19:39 MY COMMENT, I THINK I SAID I THOUGHT THEY WOULD COME BACK
21:19:43 WITH A MODIFIED SITE PLAN ELIMINATING THAT WAIVER ONE AND
21:19:48 DOING MASONRY WALL INSTEAD OF PVC.
21:19:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
21:19:52 YOU DON'T WANT MASONRY WALL ON THE ROLAND SIDE.
21:19:57 THEY ARE OFFERING A THREE-FOOT WALL, I THINK.
21:20:00 >> WELL, I THINK IF THEY WOULD HAVE PRESENTED A MODIFIED
21:20:03 PLAN, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN AVENUE FOR FURTHER
21:20:05 DISCUSSION.
21:20:06 BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, SO I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK FOR HOW
21:20:09 THE MEMBERSHIP WOULD HAVE RESPONDED TO THAT.
21:20:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU CAN'T COMMIT OR SPEAK TO THAT THIS
21:20:15 EVENING EITHER.
21:20:16 OKAY.
21:20:17 THANK YOU, SIR.
21:20:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:20:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS.
21:20:31 YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID AND IT'S FACTUAL.
21:20:35 ANYONE CAN PARK ON ANY CITY STREET AS LONG AS THEY DON'T
21:20:40 INTERRUPT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO A DRIVEWAY.
21:20:43 THE STREET BELONGS TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY, NOT JUST TO
21:20:46 THE HOMEOWNER.
21:20:47 MR. CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
21:20:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN TERMS OF WHAT, SIR?
21:20:58 THE RIGHT OF PEOPLE --
21:20:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON THE STREET RIGHT BEHIND RENZO'S,
21:21:06 YOU COULD PARK FOUR, FIVE, SIX CARS, POSSIBLY.
21:21:10 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD SAID THEY
21:21:13 WERE NOT OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUALS USING PART OF THE STREET
21:21:17 SINCE YOU ONLY PARK ON ONE SIDE.
21:21:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, MAY I SUGGEST YOU ASK STAFF?
21:21:22 I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FROM TRAFFIC WHO MIGHT BE
21:21:24 MORE QUALIFIED THAN I AM TO TALK TO THAT.
21:21:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EARLIER I SAID A MULLET WASN'T A FISH.
21:21:32 SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS.
21:21:35 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING.
21:21:37 YES, YOU CAN PARK ON THE STREET AS LONG AS THERE'S NO
21:21:43 PARKING SIGNS.
21:21:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN IF NO-PARKING SIGNS, THERE WAS A
21:21:46 LAW ENACTED YOU CANNOT HAVE A -- SOMEBODY SUED THE STATE
21:21:51 FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO, IF I RECALL.
21:21:54 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
21:21:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
21:22:00 >>BILL CARLSON: AM I ALLOW TO CALL SOMEBODY BACK UP AND
21:22:04 ASK A QUESTION?
21:22:05 MS. HATLEY, YOU SAID YOU REPRESENT THE KILGORES.
21:22:11 IS THAT RIGHT?
21:22:16 >> THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
21:22:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU RATTLED OFF A WHOLE BUNCH OF CODE
21:22:21 NUMBERS QUICKLY AND I DIDN'T GET THEM.
21:22:23 IF ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES WROTE THEM DOWN, STOP ME, PLEASE.
21:22:27 COULD YOU JUST TELL US THAT PART AGAIN.
21:22:29 >> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE POLICY 9.2.1.
21:22:33 OBJECTIVE 9.5 AND POLICY 9.5.1.
21:22:39 LAND USE POLICY 9.5.4.
21:22:43 AND LAND USE POLICY 9.5.5.
21:22:51 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK I GOT IT.
21:22:53 THANK YOU.
21:22:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:22:55 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS?
21:22:57 PETITIONER?
21:23:25 >> BEFORE I BEGIN MY COMMENTS IN REBUTTAL, I WANT TO
21:23:29 REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION ON THE SITE PLAN.
21:23:32 AND THIS IS IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER GOING AROUND.
21:23:35 AGAIN, HERE'S ROLAND STREET, STERLING.
21:23:38 NUMBER ONE, THIS IS A PROPOSED 35-FOOT SETBACK HERE WITH
21:23:45 A THREE-FOOT HIGH FENCE TO PRESERVE THIS VISTA GOING
21:23:49 BACK.
21:23:50 NOW, WE DO HAVE SOME ROOM TO REDUCE THE PARKING COUNT.
21:23:55 WE MET ON FEBRUARY 25th.
21:23:58 AS YOU'LL IMAGINE, THE WORLD FELL APART SOON AFTER THAT.
21:24:01 WE NEVER CAME BACK WITH A REVISED SITE PLAN.
21:24:05 HOWEVER, PUTS MORE CARS ON THE STREET.
21:24:09 WE WANT TO MENTION THAT.
21:24:11 WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THIS VISTA BUT STILL HAVE 13
21:24:13 SPACES.
21:24:14 THREE-FOOT FENCE DOES THAT.
21:24:16 NUMBER TWO, FOUR CRAPE MYRTLE TREES.
21:24:19 NUMBER THREE, THIS DISTANCE HERE IS EIGHT FEET.
21:24:22 THE LOT IS 135 FEET.
21:24:24 THE CODE SAYS YOU CANNOT GO PAST 100 FEET.
21:24:28 WE'RE AT 127 FEET WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE PARKING
21:24:33 LOT EDGE RIGHT HERE.
21:24:34 NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE STERLING
21:24:39 SIDE.
21:24:40 AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE THE EXTENSIVE RIGHT-OF-WAY RIGHT
21:24:42 HERE ABOUT 27 FEET.
21:24:45 NUMBER FIVE, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TURN ONLY SIGN.
21:24:48 NUMBER SIX, WE HAVE THE STORMWATER ON THIS SIDE AND
21:24:53 PROPOSED 12-FOOT SOD LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
21:24:58 STUDY THAT FOR A MOMENT.
21:25:00 THE PROBLEM WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS YOU HAVE CLASSIC
21:25:04 TENSION IN A SUBURBAN CODE IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
21:25:10 URBAN USE NEXT DOOR TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, BUT YOU
21:25:16 HAVE A SUBURBAN CODE THAT DISCOURAGES OFF-SITE PARKING.
21:25:22 THOSE ARE TOUGH TO DO.
21:25:24 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LEASE, A LONG-TERM LEASE APPROVED BY
21:25:26 THE CITY ATTORNEY.
21:25:28 IT CANNOT BE MORE THAN 1,000 FEET AWAY.
21:25:31 HAVE TO HAVE AN EASY WALKWAY TO GET TO THAT.
21:25:33 SO THE CODE ENCOURAGES THESE SPECIAL USES ON RESIDENTIAL
21:25:37 PROPERTIES IF THEY DON'T EXTEND 100 FEET, IF THERE'S
21:25:40 ADEQUATE BUFFERING, IF THERE'S ADEQUATE DRAINAGE, IF
21:25:43 THERE'S ADEQUATE ACCESS.
21:25:44 THE CODE WANTS YOU TO DO THIS SO YOU WON'T BE FACED WITH
21:25:49 A PARKING WAIVER WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES TO YOU.
21:25:51 THAT'S THE TENSION THAT YOU HAVE WITH A SUBURBAN CODE IN
21:25:56 AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT IN A STRIP CENTER THAT WAS BUILT IN
21:25:59 THE 1960s.
21:26:01 THAT TENSION FALLS ON YOU THIS EVENING.
21:26:04 SO WHAT DO YOU DO?
21:26:05 YOU CONSIDER THESE WAIVERS.
21:26:08 THESE ARE SITE WAIVERS.
21:26:09 THESE ARE NOT COUNT WAIVERS.
21:26:11 THE CARS ARE ALREADY ON THE STREET.
21:26:13 THEY ARE PARKING ON JIM MIKES PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET
21:26:16 ON STERLING.
21:26:17 THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
21:26:18 YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL RESTAURANT.
21:26:20 NOBODY DENIES THAT'S RENZO'S.
21:26:22 WE NEED TO HELP THEM.
21:26:23 GOD KNOWS WE NEED TO HELP THEM IN THESE DAYS.
21:26:26 WHAT DO YOU DO?
21:26:27 YOU COME FORWARD WITH A SITE PLAN THAT PRESERVES AS MUCH
21:26:30 LANDSCAPE AS POSSIBLE, AS MUCH BUFFERING AS POSSIBLE.
21:26:35 RIGHT-OF-WAY SPACES DON'T COUNT.
21:26:39 MR. SCOTT JUST TOLD YOU THAT THOSE SPACES ARE AVAILABLE,
21:26:43 BUT THE NEW RULE SAYS THAT THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE IS NOT
21:26:46 ENFORCED ANYMORE.
21:26:48 YES, YOU CAN PARK ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN ROLAND, UP AND
21:26:51 DOWN CLEVELAND, UP AND DOWN PLATT.
21:26:54 CAN'T LAY A HAND ON YOU.
21:26:55 THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A
21:26:57 POSSIBILITY.
21:26:58 THEY SEEM TO BE REDESIGNED TO THAT, BUT THAT COULD
21:27:01 POSSIBLY HAPPEN.
21:27:02 I THINK THE MORE PRUDENT SOLUTION IS TO PREPARE A PROPER
21:27:07 PARKING LOT AND CONTROL SOME OF THE PARKING AND SOME OF
21:27:09 THE TRAFFIC.
21:27:10 OFF-STREET PARKING, WHAT DO YOU GET WITH THAT?
21:27:13 VALET CARS COMING UP AND DOWN ROLAND?
21:27:16 GOING WHERE?
21:27:17 BEHIND PRESS BOX, BEHIND SHELLS.
21:27:19 THEN YOU'LL HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
21:27:21 WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE TENSION?
21:27:23 MR. MOORE SAID YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING ISSUE,
21:27:33 QUOTATION.
21:27:34 YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING ISSUE.
21:27:36 ANY SUGGESTED -- AND HE SUGGESTED REMOTE PARKING AND USED
21:27:39 THE MEDICAL CENTER SO ALL THE CARS COULD GO UP AND DOWN
21:27:43 ROLAND.
21:27:43 MR. HUNTER TOLD YOU THAT THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE, THIS IS
21:27:47 INCONSISTENT.
21:27:47 GOES DIRECTLY AGAINST MR. HEY'S FINDING WHO IS THE
21:27:51 PROFESSIONAL IN THE FIELD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
21:27:55 WHO STUDIES THESE DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
21:27:57 HE GAVE HIS PROFESSIONAL OPINION THIS EVENING THAT THIS
21:27:59 IS CONSISTENT AND THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
21:28:00 THAT IS THE FIRST QUOTE I GAVE YOU WHEN I GAVE MY
21:28:03 PRESENTATION ORIGINALLY.
21:28:04 MS. HATLEY ON BEHALF OF THE KILGORES AGAIN GAVE YOU
21:28:11 STATEMENTS, INCONSISTENT AND INAPPROPRIATE.
21:28:13 MR. HEY FINDS OTHERWISE.
21:28:14 YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE EVIDENCE.
21:28:16 WHO IS THE MORE PROFESSIONAL AT THIS ISSUE?
21:28:20 I SUBMIT MR. HEY'S FINDINGS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
21:28:23 ARE MORE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
21:28:26 PARDON ME FOR A MOMENT.
21:28:28 MADAM CLERK, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE AVAILABLE?
21:28:48 >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
21:28:53 >> ON PAGE FOUR AND FIVE, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE REMAINDER
21:28:56 OF THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS AND SPECIAL USES HAVE BEEN
21:28:59 MET.
21:29:00 I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT YOU DO HAVE A DILEMMA ON YOUR HANDS.
21:29:05 IT IS A DILEMMA CREATED BY THE CODE.
21:29:07 IT IS THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
21:29:10 ONCE AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO REGULATE THE USE OF
21:29:13 PROPERTY.
21:29:14 YOU HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS THERE THAT IS TRYING
21:29:17 TO CREATE A SOLUTION.
21:29:19 EVENTUALLY THE PARKING THAT MR. MIKES HAS GENEROUSLY
21:29:22 PROVIDED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL GO AWAY.
21:29:24 WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION THAT WILL NOT CREATE
21:29:27 CHAOS ON THE STREET WITH EVERYONE PARKING ON THE STREET
21:29:30 AND PARKING THAT CANNOT BE COUNTED ON THE STREET.
21:29:33 I SUBMIT THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERHAPS
21:29:35 RELOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, PERHAPS SHAVE DOWN SOME OF THE
21:29:39 PARKING COUNT AND COME BACK TO YOU, IF THAT IS YOUR
21:29:43 PREFERENCE.
21:29:43 I DON'T THINK WE'RE THAT FAR APART I THINK IT WOULD BE
21:29:46 BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:29:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:29:48 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
21:29:53 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:29:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT WAS
21:29:59 SAYING THAT HE COULDN'T MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT BECAUSE
21:30:03 HE NEEDED TO GET WITH THE REST OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD
21:30:08 ASSOCIATION.
21:30:12 MR. GRANDOFF JUST PUT SOMETHING ON THE TABLE TO GO BACK
21:30:15 AND MAYBE REASON WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN REFERENCE TO
21:30:18 THIS SITUATION.
21:30:19 WE CAN'T TELL ANYBODY WHAT TO DO, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S
21:30:23 LIKE A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD, THIS SITUATION AS I LOOK AND
21:30:27 READ IT.
21:30:28 WHICH WAY IS UP?
21:30:29 JUST A POINT THAT MAYBE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
21:30:38 MAYBE YOU AND A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.
21:30:44 MAYBE WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO RENDER A DECISION TONIGHT,
21:30:47 BUT MAYBE ANOTHER DAY.
21:30:48 JUST A SUGGESTION.
21:30:48 WE CAN'T MAKE YOU DO THAT, SIR.
21:30:52 >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUGGESTION.
21:30:55 WE'D LIKE TO TRY THAT.
21:30:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU SAYING YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR
21:31:00 A CONTINUANCE?
21:31:02 >> PERHAPS A CONTINUANCE.
21:31:03 PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS.
21:31:05 TIMES ARE DIFFICULT.
21:31:06 I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE COULD MEET, PHYSICALLY MEET, BUT WE
21:31:10 COULD EXCHANGE SITE PLANS VIA E-MAIL.
21:31:14 MY CLIENT IS VERY WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE AS MUCH AS
21:31:17 POSSIBLE AND SEE IF WE CAN TAKE A SHARP PENCIL OUT.
21:31:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A DATE, I HAD
21:31:31 SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONTINUANCE, AS THE WORD AROSE, I
21:31:36 LOOKED AROUND THE ROOM AND I SAW A LOT OF SHAKING HEADS
21:31:40 NO JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE GET HIRED.
21:31:43 ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS, NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO COME OUT OF
21:31:47 THEIR HOMES, BUT AS HAS BEEN EXPRESSED EARLIER, IT'S
21:31:52 IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT THEY CAME OUT OF THEIR HOMES.
21:31:55 AND I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN IF THEY CAN
21:31:57 AVOID IT 30 DAYS FROM NOW.
21:32:00 WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST, INSTEAD, SINCE MR. GAINES IS HERE
21:32:07 AND HIS WIFE AND YOU AND THESE NICE FOLKS IS MAYBE FOUR
21:32:12 OR FIVE OF THE LEADERS AND YOU HUDDLED OUTSIDE, WE COULD
21:32:18 GIVE YOU A HALF HOUR, AN HOUR, CONTINUE ON WITH THESE
21:32:22 CASES.
21:32:25 MR. CHAIRMAN AGREES, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING CAN
21:32:29 BE WORKED OUT, THAT'S GREAT.
21:32:31 IF NOTHING CAN BE WORKED OUT, THEN WE COME BACK IN AND WE
21:32:35 CLOSE THE HEARING AND MOVE ON ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
21:32:40 BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF CONTINUANCE THAT I THINK WOULD BE
21:32:42 IN EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST.
21:32:44 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: WE CAN DO THAT.
21:32:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S YOUR
21:32:50 MEETING.
21:32:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WISH.
21:32:51 IF NOT, THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE AUGUST 20 OR SEPTEMBER 10,
21:32:56 BOTH EVENING MEETINGS.
21:32:57 IF YOU CAN HASH IT OUT NOW, WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
21:33:01 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I THINK IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
21:33:03 WE'LL GIVE IT A TRY.
21:33:05 RECESS US INDEFINITELY AND THEN I CAN NOTIFY THE CLERK
21:33:09 THAT WE'VE RETURNED.
21:33:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
21:33:12 WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE THEN.
21:33:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH
21:33:17 THAT?
21:33:20 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THIS EVENING.
21:33:21 OR YOU CAN TELL US TO COME BACK AT 10:00.
21:33:24 WHATEVER YOUR PLEASURE IS.
21:33:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I THINK 30 MINUTES WOULD BE
21:33:28 ADEQUATE AND WE CAN DO A CASE OR TWO.
21:33:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE AT 9:33.
21:33:33 LET'S SAY 10:00.
21:33:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE
21:33:37 COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
21:33:38 WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE.
21:33:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
21:33:40 WELL, THE THING IS, THE QUESTION WOULD BE ULTIMATELY WHAT
21:33:43 WILL COME OF IT AND THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT WHEN THE
21:33:47 TIME COMES.
21:33:48 THAT'S FINE, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WISHES.
21:33:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT A MOTION?
21:33:55 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: REQUEST A CONTINUANCE UNTIL 10:00 P.M.,
21:33:58 PLEASE.
21:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION FOR
21:34:00 THAT?
21:34:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
21:34:02 UNANIMOUS CONSENT, PLEASURE OF COUNCIL BY CONSENSUS.
21:34:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYONE?
21:34:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY
21:34:11 10:00 UNLESS YOU WISH TO STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT 10.
21:34:16 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I'LL CONTACT MR. SHELBY AT 10:00 AND
21:34:19 GIVE HIM AN UPDATE.
21:34:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SAW THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT RAISING
21:34:24 HIS HAND.
21:34:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WILSON OR THE OTHER GENTLEMAN.
21:34:30 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
21:34:32 CITY COUNCIL.
21:34:33 I THINK THAT THE WILL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS
21:34:38 TO NOT ENGAGE IN FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.
21:34:40 WE BELIEVE THAT THE OPPORTUNITY WAS PROVIDED TO THE
21:34:44 APPLICANT AFTER THE INITIAL MEETING TO COME TO US WITH
21:34:48 SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUTUALLY AGREEABLE AND
21:34:50 THAT TIME HAS NOW PASSED.
21:34:55 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: MAY I RESPOND?
21:34:56 >> WE REQUEST A YES OR NO VOTE AT THIS TIME.
21:34:58 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: OUR MEETING AT THE LIBRARY ON HENDERSON
21:35:02 WAS FEBRUARY 25th.
21:35:05 AND THEN AS THE COVID STARTED MOUNTING AND WE LITERALLY
21:35:10 WENT NEUTRAL ON THE FILE AND MY CLIENT INSTRUCTED ME NOT
21:35:14 TO DO ANY FURTHER WORK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER
21:35:16 THIS HEARING WOULD HAPPEN OR NOT.
21:35:18 IN FACT, I WAS AT COUNCIL MARCH 12 REQUESTING A
21:35:21 CONTINUANCE.
21:35:22 AND THEY WERE NOT THERE.
21:35:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHY DON'T I HELP A
21:35:30 LITTLE BIT.
21:35:30 I MOVE FOR A 30-MINUTE CONTINUANCE ON THIS.
21:35:34 I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF TALK CAN ALWAYS HELP.
21:35:37 IF WE COME BACK 30 MINUTES LATER AND EVERYBODY IS IN THE
21:35:40 SAME POSITION, FINE.
21:35:42 ANYWAY, THAT'S A MOTION JUST TO HELP YOU OUT.
21:35:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:35:47 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:35:48 ANY DISCUSSION?
21:35:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:35:51 ALL RIGHT.
21:35:52 SEE YOU IN 30.
21:35:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVERYBODY REMEMBER TO TRY AND KEEP
21:36:00 YOUR DISTANCE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
21:36:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
21:36:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU CALL A RECESS?
21:36:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
21:36:31 [RECESS]
21:39:22 (CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS)
21:39:30
21:46:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
21:46:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
21:46:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
21:46:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
21:46:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
21:46:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
21:46:53 ALL RIGHT.
21:46:53 NUMBER 5.
21:46:55 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
21:47:01 COORDINATION.
21:47:01 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS SU-2-20-02, APPLICATION FOR COMMERCIAL
21:47:08 OFFSTREET PARKING AT 214 SOUTH MOODY AVENUE.
21:47:12 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
21:47:20 THAT'S HEY.
21:47:26 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
21:47:29 DISTRICT.
21:47:31 HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE CENTER.
21:47:37 YOU HAVE MOODY RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH. THIS IS PLATT.
21:47:40 THIS IS THE PLATT.
21:47:47 ONTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
21:47:49 IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE BUT THE SUBJECT SITE IN ALL OF
21:47:51 THESE PROPERTIES IN BROWN ARE THE 35 --
21:47:59 >> DAVID, CAN YOU TAKE THE MICROPHONE?
21:48:02 >>DAVID HEY: SURE.
21:48:03 IT'S BASICALLY THE DONUT HOLE IN THIS AREA OF COMMUNITY
21:48:06 MIXED USE 35 AND THEN TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE GOT THE URBAN
21:48:10 MIXED USE 60.
21:48:15 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES ENCOURAGE THOSE
21:48:18 OFFSTREET PARKING BLOCKS ESPECIALLY ADJACENT TO EXISTING
21:48:22 COMMERCIAL.
21:48:25 THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCES ADJACENT, AND
21:48:29 THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO
21:48:32 ENSURE THAT THE SITE IS APPROPRIATELY BUFFED.
21:48:34 IN CONCLUSION THE PROPOSED USE OF THE SITE WOULD PROVIDE
21:48:37 ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE TO THE SOUTH OF
21:48:39 THE SITE, AND THAT REQUEST WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
21:48:44 USES ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE
21:48:48 CATEGORY.
21:48:49 AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS THE PLANNING COMMISSION
21:48:51 STAFF FINDS THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
21:48:54 THANK YOU.
21:48:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:48:56 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
21:49:11 COORDINATION.
21:49:12 DAVID SHOWED YOU AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE PROPERTY.
21:49:16 AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING A COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET
21:49:18 PARKING IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
21:49:22 THIS PROPERTY, THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS RS 24
21:49:26 WHICH IS A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
21:49:29 PER YOUR CODE, IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE 2 APPLICATION
21:49:32 BEFORE YOU TO DO COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING.
21:49:34 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 21 PARKING SPACES TO SERVE THE
21:49:40 JOINING USE TO THE SOUTH.
21:49:41 THERE IS ONE REQUESTED WAIVER TO THE SPECIAL USE
21:49:44 CRITERIA, 27-132-E TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED USE BUFFER TO
21:49:49 THE NORTH FROM 15-FOOT WITH A 6-FOOT HIGH WALL TO 5 FEET
21:49:53 WITH A 6-FOOT HIGH PVC FENCE.
21:50:03 THIS IS THE PROPOSAL THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AS
21:50:08 THE SITE PLAN.
21:50:09 AGAIN YOU CAN SEE 21 PARKING SPACES IT'S TO SERVE THE
21:50:12 COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO THE SOUTH.
21:50:14 AGAIN, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAIVER BEING REQUESTED TO THE
21:50:18 NORTH, IN LIEU OF HAVING THE 15 FEET, THEY ARE REQUESTING
21:50:22 TO GO DOWN TO 5 FEET.
21:50:24 AGAIN IN AN EFFORT TO GET AS MUCH PARKING AS THEY CAN ON
21:50:28 THE SITE AND STILL MEET THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACE AND
21:50:31 DRIVE AISLES SPATIAL REQUIREMENTS.
21:50:35 THERE ARE SOME CHANGES FOR STORMWATER AND PLANNING
21:50:38 DESIGN, VERY MINOR CHANGES, TO OCCUR BETWEEN FIRST AND
21:50:41 SECOND READING AS WELL AS SOME CHANGES FOR NATURAL
21:50:45 RESOURCES FOR CLARIFICATION TO THE EXISTING TREES.
21:50:49 I WILL POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL LARGE TREES ON
21:50:51 THE SITE THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.
21:50:55 THE CODE REQUIRED PROTECTIVE RADII IN COMBINATION WITH
21:51:00 SOME PERVIOUS PAVEMENT.
21:51:03 SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLAINS STAFF DID
21:51:05 FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
21:51:08 PLAN -- I'M SORRY, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
21:51:11 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
21:51:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
21:51:15 SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
21:51:17 >> GOOD EVENING.
21:51:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:51:29 I AM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, AND HE IS LISTENING
21:51:33 TONIGHT, MICHAEL PETERS, SO HE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER AND
21:51:38 THE FOUNDER OF THE BUSINESS.
21:51:44 THIS IS VERY MUCH UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS PARK.
21:51:47 WE ARE REQUESTING FOR A SPECIAL USE FOR OFF-STREET
21:51:53 COMMERCIAL PARKING BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE FOR THE
21:51:55 PUBLIC.
21:51:56 IT IS REALLY TO SERVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
21:52:00 SO THIS AREA AS STAFF STATED, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED
21:52:05 NORTH OF PARK WHICH IS ON MOODY AVENUE AND PLATT STREET.
21:52:10 PARK TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST, MULTIFAMILY TRIPLEX
21:52:15 DEVELOPMENT, HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ABOUT TEN YEARS
21:52:20 AGO.
21:52:20 TO THE -- I GUESS IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE BUILDING
21:52:27 THERE IS EXISTING PROPERTY THERE AND THEN TO THE EAST OF
21:52:29 THE PROPERTY IS AN ALLEYWAY.
21:52:39 SO THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT REQUEST FROM WHAT YOU HEARD
21:52:46 PREVIOUSLY.
21:52:48 IS THE THIS THE ELMO?
21:52:52 A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BEHIND THE SITE.
21:52:54 THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO.
21:52:59 IT USED TO BE AN AUTO RETAIL STORE, AND IT WAS REALLY NOT
21:53:07 A NICE BUILDING.
21:53:10 WHEN HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY HE WAS KIND OF HAD TO REDO
21:53:13 THE PROPERTY, RECLEAN THE BUILDING, BRING IT UP TO MORE
21:53:18 OF THE BRANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW
21:53:21 WHO SPARK IS, SPARK IS A WELL KNOWN COMPANY AND THEY DO
21:53:25 BRANDING, MARKETING AND BRANDING.
21:53:27 SO THEREFORE THE IMAGE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.
21:53:30 AND HE HAD A LONG ROAD AHEAD OF HIM. IN FRONT OF HIS
21:53:35 BUILDING, THEY HAVE THE PARKING SPACES, ASPHALT PARKING,
21:53:39 WITH THE LIMITED PARKING IN THE BACK BY THE ALLEY, AND
21:53:44 IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM FOR THEM AND FOR HIS
21:53:47 BUSINESS AND HIS EMPLOYEES WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO AND PARK
21:53:50 OFF-SITE, AND NOT CLOSE TO THE BUSINESS, AND IT WAS KIND
21:53:54 OF SOMETIMES AT NIGHT A SECURITY ISSUE.
21:53:57 AND THEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY
21:54:00 TO THE NORTH.
21:54:01 THE NORTH WAS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
21:54:03 AND WHEN HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE WAS
21:54:09 DAMAGED.
21:54:11 AND THAT STARTED DAMAGING THE HOME THERE.
21:54:15 AND THEREFORE WHEN HE LOOKED AT IT TO FIX THE HOUSE UP A
21:54:19 LITTLE BIT, UNTIL HE KNEW HE HAD A GOAL OF EXPANDING THE
21:54:23 PARKING AREA, BUDGETWISE IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE SINCE
21:54:29 HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN AND MAKE THIS
21:54:33 PARKING AREA PART OF THE BUSINESS.
21:54:34 AND SO HERE WE ARE TODAY.
21:54:37 HE HAS THE PROPERTY.
21:54:38 AND WE WENT THROUGH BACK AND FORTH FOR THE LAST YEAR OF
21:54:42 HOW TO DESIGN THE SITE AND TO MAKE IT NOT JUST A PARKING
21:54:46 LOT THAT I WAS TELLING HIM EARLIER, I WAS LAUGHING,
21:54:49 BECAUSE HERE I AM DEALING WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS A
21:54:51 VISIONARY AND ARTISTIC AND TELLING ME HOW HE'S ENVISIONS
21:54:56 THIS PARKING LOT TO BE PART OF HIS BUSINESS AND WHEN HE'S
21:55:00 TAKING BREAKS OUTSIDE THAT THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE PART
21:55:03 OF IT.
21:55:04 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT HIM, I SAID YOU ARE
21:55:07 TALKING ABOUT A PARKING LOT.
21:55:09 YEAH, I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT A PARKING LOT HERE, PARTLY
21:55:11 OF MY BUSINESS.
21:55:12 AND THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT IS GOING TO BE
21:55:17 SURROUNDED BY -- I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS -- THE
21:55:21 WAIVERS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
21:55:23 BUT ALSO, BEFORE WE GO THERE, I WANTED TO SHOW HOW --
21:55:38 CAN YOU SEE THIS?
21:55:40 OKAY.
21:55:40 SO WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN FOR THE SITE PLAN, FOR THE
21:55:44 APPLICATION, STAFF, I WAS TALKING TO, THEY UNDERSTOOD,
21:55:49 YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE BUSINESS ITSELF.
21:55:52 AND HE SAID CORRECT.
21:55:54 AND SHOW ME HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH
21:55:58 THIS AND NOT JUST A STAND-ALONE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC,
21:56:01 THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND FOR
21:56:03 YOUR CLIENTS.
21:56:04 AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE, WE HAVE A SITE OVER HERE, AND
21:56:10 THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PARCEL TO THE
21:56:17 SOUTH.
21:56:17 OVER HERE WHERE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE, THIS IS THE
21:56:20 BUSINESS AND THIS IS THE CURRENT PARKING LOT AND OVER
21:56:22 HERE IS THAT LITTLE COURTYARD THAT THEY ARE KIND OF USING
21:56:29 FOR THE BREAK, AND AS PART OF THIS PART, WE DO HAVE
21:56:33 WAIVERS TO THE BUFFERING AND SCREENING, 15-FOOT BUFFER
21:56:39 WITH A 6-FOOT MASONRY WALL.
21:56:41 SO WHEN WE DESIGNED THIS, WE STARTED MOVING THE PARKING
21:56:43 LOT TOWARDS THE SOUTH SO THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT
21:56:48 5-FOOT BUFFER, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT WALL, WHICH
21:56:52 WOULD TAKE A LOT OF SPACE, WANTED TO DO THE PVC FENCING,
21:56:57 AND THE PVC FENCING IS GOING TO GO AROUND AND CONNECT TO
21:57:00 THE BUILDING OVER HERE.
21:57:02 SO THE GOAL IS, THERE IS A DOOR HERE.
21:57:04 OVER HERE, EMPLOYEES GO OUT, THEY HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO
21:57:08 THE ENCLOSED SAFETY PARKING AREA.
21:57:13 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THE PAST.
21:57:17 AND STILL TO THIS DAY, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, AND THE
21:57:21 PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BECAME
21:57:26 VACANT.
21:57:27 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTRUSION, A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING
21:57:31 ONTO THE SITE DOING ILLEGAL DUMPING, ILLEGAL ACTIVITY OF
21:57:35 THE IT HASN'T BEEN EASY TO CONTROL.
21:57:41 HE DID PUT A LIGHT FACING TOWARD THAT AREA TO DISCOURAGE
21:57:46 THAT, BUT THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM AND HE WANTS TO
21:57:50 STOP THAT.
21:57:50 HE'S HAD THIS VISION OF MAKING HIS BUSINESS SO MUCH
21:57:53 NICER.
21:57:55 HE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING,
21:57:58 THE FENCING, EVERYTHING, TO BE ENCLOSED AND MAKE IT
21:58:02 SAFETY FOR HIS EMPLOYEES.
21:58:04 AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND OTHER ONES.
21:58:09 THIS IS NOT FOR THE PUBLIC. THIS IS FOR PRIVATE, THIS IS
21:58:12 FOR THE BUSINESS ITSELF.
21:58:13 IT'S FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND IT'S FOR THE CLIENT.
21:58:16 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OPEN -- IT'S GOING TO BE USED DURING
21:58:20 OFFICE HOURS.
21:58:20 IT'S GOING TO BE USED TYPICAL PARKING SPACE THAT YOU SEE
21:58:25 ASSOCIATED WITH A BUSINESS.
21:58:26 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OPENED UP FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO TO
21:58:30 SOHO AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
21:58:32 BUT THAT WAS VERY CLEAR TO HIM.
21:58:35 I DID RECEIVE SOME CALLS OF SOME CONCERNS, AND THE
21:58:38 CONCERN WAS WHILE CLEANING UP THE SITE, AND WHETHER OR
21:58:41 NOT IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE PUBLIC.
21:58:44 AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND CLARIFY THAT THIS IS
21:58:47 FOR THE BUSINESS.
21:58:52 AND HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING INVESTING INTO THE
21:58:56 BUSINESS AND WORK ON HIS BRANDING, AND SO AGAIN GOING
21:59:08 THROUGH THIS, LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT, THEY ALL FOUND
21:59:11 IT CONSISTENT.
21:59:11 PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
21:59:13 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
21:59:15 AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPING YOUR APPROVAL.
21:59:19 AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
21:59:21 SO IS MY CLIENT AFTERWARDS.
21:59:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:59:25 BEFORE WE CONTINUE, ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN THIS
21:59:27 ROOM, HAVE YOU ALREADY BEEN SWORN?
21:59:30 IF NOT, PLEASE STAND UP AND BE SWORN IN.
21:59:34 IF YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING.
21:59:35 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
21:59:40 >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
21:59:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US THE
21:59:51 HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THIS BUSINESS?
21:59:54 >> YES, USUALLY NINE TO SIX.
21:59:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR ANY OFF-STREET
21:59:59 PARKING FOR THIS PARKING TO BE USED FOR VALET OR ANY
22:00:02 OTHER BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE AROUND THE AREA?
22:00:05 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
22:00:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
22:00:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC
22:00:10 THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
22:00:12 IF SO, PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN.
22:00:14 AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT FOR THE RECORD.
22:00:17 >> MY NAME IS GINA SMALLEY, SMALLEY.
22:00:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:00:32 FORGIVE ME BUT I BELIEVE MS. SMALLEY -- DID YOU PRESENT A
22:00:38 SPEAKER WAIVER FORM ASKING FOUR PEOPLE TO WAIVE THEIR
22:00:43 TIME SO YOU CAN GET FOUR ADDITIONAL MINUTES?
22:00:46 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
22:00:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK IF YOU ARE PRESENT PLEAS TO
22:00:49 ACKNOWLEDGE IF YOU ARE HERE?
22:00:50 LAURA?
22:00:51 THANK YOU.
22:00:52 BRYAN PHILLIPS, THANK YOU.
22:00:54 SEAN SITELL?
22:00:58 THANK YOU.
22:00:58 AND SANDRA STEVENSON.
22:01:00 THANK YOU.
22:01:01 FOUR ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
22:01:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
22:01:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS A RESIDENT,
22:01:10 HOMEOWNER AT 211 SOUTH MOODY AVENUE, I STRONGLY INCH THE
22:01:15 COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DENY APPROVAL FOR THIS PERMIT.
22:01:17 AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE MOODY HOA, I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE
22:01:21 HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS RELATED TO OUR HOA, WHICH
22:01:24 INCLUDES NINE TOWNHOMES AND 20 PEOPLE, SHARE SIMILAR
22:01:27 CONCERNS BUT COULDN'T COME TO THE HEARING BECAUSE OF
22:01:32 COVID-19.
22:01:33 I HAVE ALSO SPOKEN WITH PAULA OF 2907 SOUTH MOODY AVENUE
22:01:38 AND, BOTH OF WHOM HAVE CHILDREN WITH FAMILIES LIVING HERE
22:01:43 AND ALSO OPPOSE THE REZONING.
22:01:46 IT WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE PROPERTY VALUE OF OUR
22:01:48 HOUSE AND OUR NEIGHBORS' HOME.
22:01:50 THE PROPERTY IN EQUIP IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM
22:01:52 OUR BUILDING.
22:01:53 FOR MANY, OUR HOME IS OUR MOST VALUABLE AND SIGNIFICANT
22:01:57 INVESTMENT AND IS ALSO OUR HOMESTEAD.
22:01:59 AS PROPERTY OWNERS WE BELIEVE IT IS UNFAIR TO US TO LOSE
22:02:02 VALUE IN OUR HOMES AT THE WHIM OF A LOCAL BUSINESS AND
22:02:06 HOPE COUNCIL WILL PROTECT OUR INVESTMENTS.
22:02:08 AS RESIDENTS WITH FAMILIES HAVE A CONCRETE PARKING LOT
22:02:13 WITHIN VIEW OF OUR HOME IS CERTAINLY --
22:02:17 WE HAVE ALREADY HAD SEVERAL ISSUES RELATING UNSAFE
22:02:21 TRAFFIC AND VANDALISM AND WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THE ISSUES
22:02:24 WOULD BE EXACERBATED FURTHER.
22:02:27 WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTINUOUS SIDEWALKS ON OUR STREETS.
22:02:30 WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEED BUMPS.
22:02:32 AND OUR DRIVEWAYS DIRECTLY EXIT ONTO SOUTH MOODY AVENUE.
22:02:36 WE CONSTANTLY HAVE ISSUES WITH PEOPLE SEEK -- SPEEDING
22:02:40 DOWN OUR STREET.
22:02:41 I PERMANENTLY HAD TO JUMP OUT OF WAYS OF CARS THAT NEARLY
22:02:44 HIT US, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
22:02:47 THIS HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES WHILE WALKING MY DOG,
22:02:50 WALKING WITH MY CHILDREN, EVEN WITH A STROLLER, OR
22:02:54 WALKING TO THE GROCERY STORY.
22:02:56 PUTTING THE PARKING LOT ON OUR STREET WITH THE ENTRANCE
22:02:59 OF THE PARKING LOT GOING DIRECTLY ONTO OUR STREET WILL
22:03:02 RESULT IN EVEN MORE CAR TRAFFIC, AND ALREADY HAZARDOUS
22:03:06 RESIDENTIAL STREET. THIS IS VERY CONCERNING AND
22:03:09 UPSETTING FOR ME AS A MOTHER WITH CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY
22:03:12 OF HER FAMILY. DON'T WANT TO KNOW AFRAID TO LET MY
22:03:14 CHILDREN PLAY OUTSIDE AND EXERCISE.
22:03:17 WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL BUSINESSES ON HOWARD ALLOW PARKING
22:03:20 FOR SOHO BARS AFTER HOURS AND ON WEEKENDS.
22:03:24 THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO ENSURE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN
22:03:27 WITH THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT DESPITE VERBAL ASSURANCES
22:03:30 FROM THE BUSINESS.
22:03:31 THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO ENFORCE THIS.
22:03:33 IF THIS OCCURS, IT WOULD RESULT IN EVEN MORE VANDALISM TO
22:03:37 OUR PROPERTIES BY THE PATRONS OF SOHO BARS.
22:03:40 WE HAVE ALREADY HAD TO DEAL WITH BROKEN MAILBOXES, TRASH
22:03:45 OCCURRENCE TURNED OVER, PEOPLE USING OUR PROPERTY AS
22:03:49 TOILETS, BANGING ON OUR DOORS AT 3:00 RUNNING AWAY.
22:03:52 WE HAVE ALREADY TO DEAL WITH ALL OF IT AND IF THEY WERE
22:03:55 COMING BACK TO THEIR CARS ON OUR STREET THE PROBLEM WOULD
22:03:58 BE EVEN WORSE.
22:03:59 JUST THE LAST ACT OF VANDALISM HAS CAUSED OUR HOA OVER A
22:04:03 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO FIX AND THIS IS NOT HOW I WANT TO
22:04:05 SPEND MY HARD EARNED MONEY.
22:04:07 COLLECTIVELY THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON MOODY AVENUE
22:04:10 INSULATE EACH OTHER FROM NOISE, TRAFFIC, SOHO BAR SCENE
22:04:15 AND REZONING THIS PROPERTY AND TURNING IT INTO A PARKING
22:04:17 LOT WOULD EXPOSE OUR PROPERTY FURTHER TO THE DESTRUCTIVE
22:04:21 NATURE OF THE SOHO NIGHT LIFE.
22:04:23 CITY COUNCIL ALREADY HEARD MANY ISSUES CONCERNING THIS
22:04:26 ISSUE AND SHOULD PRIORITIZE THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS
22:04:28 HERE.
22:04:30 WHAT STARTED AS AN IDEA TO CREATE A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD
22:04:31 HAS SPIRALED OUT OF CONTROL AND DANGEROUS INEBRIATION AND
22:04:37 CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.
22:04:38 ONE PROMINENT EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE SHOOTING OF THE
22:04:42 HOOKAH LOUNGE ON HOWARD IN 2017.
22:04:44 COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD KNOW THAT THE LOCATION OF THE
22:04:45 HOOKAH LOUNGE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY IN
22:04:47 QUESTION.
22:04:48 THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITH LARGE
22:04:52 STRUCTURE, YARD SPACE AND A FENCE AROUND MOST OF THE
22:04:55 PROPERTY HAS ACTUALLY INSULATED OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS
22:04:58 FROM THE THREAT OF GUN FIRE THAT TERRIFYING NIGHT.
22:05:01 IMAGINE WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO SCREAMS
22:05:03 AND GUN FIRE AND BEING AFRAID FOR YOUR CHILDREN IN YOUR
22:05:07 OWN HOME.
22:05:07 WE EXPERIENCED THIS, AND NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO EXPERIENCE
22:05:09 THIS IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
22:05:11 PROTECTING THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ZONING IS CRITICAL
22:05:14 FOR ALL OUR RESIDENCES.
22:05:16 COLLECTIVELY INSULATING EACH OTHER.
22:05:19 LEVELING THIS BUILDING, THE TREES AND TURNING IT INTO A
22:05:22 BARE PARKING LOT, EVEN IF IT IS FENCED, WILL ALSO TAKE
22:05:25 AWAY THE ADDITIONAL SOUND BARRIER THAT THE PROPERTY
22:05:27 CREATES FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS ON OUR STREET.
22:05:29 LATE-NIGHT NOISE IS AN ISSUE FROM MOODY AVENUE AND WE
22:05:35 TRIED MANY TIMES TO PLEAD WITH THE CITY AND THE BUSINESS
22:05:37 OWNERS TO BRING THIS UNDER CONTROL.
22:05:39 THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS VIOLATED EVERY WEEKEND IN THIS
22:05:42 AREA, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW WORST WOULD GET IF WE
22:05:45 CONTINUE TO TURN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY INTO COMMERCIAL
22:05:49 PARKING, OFF-STREET PARKING.
22:05:51 PLEASE CONSIDER DENYING THIS PERMIT SO WE CAN PRESERVE
22:05:55 WHATEVER LITTLE PROTECTION OUR PROPERTIES COLLECTIVELY
22:05:57 CREATE.
22:05:58 WE ARE CONCERNED THAT CREATING THIS PARKING LOT WILL
22:06:00 CREATE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES ON THE ALREADY INSUFFICIENT
22:06:03 WATER DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ON OUR STREETS.
22:06:06 SOUTH TAMPA IS NOTORIOUS IN THE DRAINING ISSUES DURING
22:06:10 THE RAINY SEASON AND MANY HAVE CRITICAL ISSUES WITH
22:06:12 DRAINING.
22:06:13 THE ADJACENT STREET WAS FLOODED CAUSING TRAFFIC
22:06:17 NIGHTMARES AND EVEN STALLING AND FLOODING OUT CARS.
22:06:20 WE ALSO SEE PROBLEMS WITH INSUFFICIENT DRAINING AND THE
22:06:23 STORM DRAINS DIRECTLY ON OUR PROPERTY.
22:06:25 WE HAVE A STORM DRAIN DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR YARD.
22:06:28 THIS AREA OFTEN HAS WATER BACKED UP BEING ABLE TO HANDLE
22:06:33 THE CURRENT WATER DRAINAGE CONDITION.
22:06:35 PAVING OVER WHAT IS CURRENTLY A PROPERTY DIRECTLY IN
22:06:40 FRONT OF OUR HOUSE IS SURE TO HAVE DIRE CONSEQUENCES ON
22:06:42 THE ALREADY STRAINING DRAINING CAPACITY ON OUR STREET.
22:06:49 FLOODING IS A MAJOR CONCERN WITH THE CURRENT WATER BACKUP
22:06:50 ALREADY GETS QUITE CLOSE TO OUR FRONT DOOR.
22:06:52 IT'S WELL ESTABLISHED THAT PAVING AND CREATING PARKING
22:06:55 LOTS HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AND DIRECT EFFECT ON FLOODING NO
22:06:57 MATTER HOW MUCH WE TRY TO MITIGATE IT WITH UNDERGROUND
22:07:00 STORMWATER FACILITIES FOR EVERYONE. FOR EVERY ONE
22:07:01 PERCENT INCREASE IN PAVEMENT AND PARKING LOTS, IT WOULD
22:07:05 RESULT IN A 3.3% INCREASE IN FLOODING, AND THIS WAS
22:07:10 PUBLISHED IN 2020 IN GEOGRAPHICAL RESEARCH LETTERS.
22:07:16 HOWEVER, THE PERMEABLE PROPOSED PAVING MIGHT BE, IT'S NOT
22:07:19 GOING TO BE AS PERMEABLE AS THE SOIL THAT'S CURRENTLY IN
22:07:23 PLACE.
22:07:27 REPORTS CALCULATE THE FLOODING IMPACT ON THE PARKING LOT
22:07:29 ON OUR STREET TO SEE HOW BAD IT MIGHT GET.
22:07:33 THERE ARE OTHER LESS EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS TO ENHANCE THE
22:07:36 PARKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS WHICH ARE NOT
22:07:39 BEING UTILIZED.
22:07:40 WE ARE QUITE SURPRISED BY THE PLANS TO BUILD THE
22:07:42 ADDITIONAL PARKING FROM SPARK.
22:07:44 WE ARE SO CLOSE TO THE SPARK BUILDING WHICH HAS A DIRECT
22:07:47 VIEW FROM OF THE PARKING LOT FROM OUR WINDOWS.
22:07:51 WE DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE EVER SEEN THIS PARKING LOT
22:07:54 FULL.
22:07:54 THERE'S ALSO A PAVED SPACE ON THE SIDE OF THE BIDDING
22:07:58 THAT FACES PLATT STREET AND IT'S NOT USED.
22:08:01 WHY NOT PLACE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES THERE AND BRING
22:08:05 DIRECTLY FROM PLATT STREET?
22:08:07 PLATT STREET IS USUALLY NOT SO BUSY THAT IT WOULD BE
22:08:10 DIFFICULT TO COME IN AND OUT OF THOSE PLACES.
22:08:13 THERE'S AN IMAGE OF THIS AREA.
22:08:23 IT CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE MORE PARKING.
22:08:32 FINALLY, I'M ATTACHING AN IMAGE THAT WAS TAKEN AT 10 A.M.
22:08:35 ON MARCH 11.
22:08:40 TO SHOW HOW BUSY THE CURRENT PARKING LOT GETS.
22:08:42 THERE ARE AT LEAST 7 PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE EMPTY.
22:08:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:08:54 THAT'S IT.
22:08:55 >> I JUST INCH YOU TO ASK FIRST THIS WERE YOUR HOME WHERE
22:08:59 YOUR FAMILY LIVES WOULD YOU WANT A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT
22:09:02 DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE OR WOULD YOU RATHER IT BE
22:09:04 A FAMILY HOME?
22:09:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN THE
22:09:07 NEIGHBORHOOD?
22:09:07 >> FOUR YEARS.
22:09:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOUR YEARS.
22:09:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:09:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER ALSO
22:09:14 MENTIONED THAT THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY BEFORE OURS WERE
22:09:19 BUILT AND THAT'S NOT TRUE.
22:09:20 THEY BUILT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AFTER MY UNITS WERE
22:09:25 ALREADY BUILT.
22:09:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY?
22:09:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:09:30 COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION, MA'AM?
22:09:34 IS OFF-STREET PARKING ALLOWED ON YOUR STREET, ON MOODY?
22:09:38 >> IT IS NOT ALLOWED.
22:09:39 IN FACT WE HAVE SIGNS UP THAT IT WAS NOT ALLOWED AND
22:09:42 THERE WAS A SIGN UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY WHICH
22:09:44 AFTER THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THEY REMOVED THE SIGN AND
22:09:48 IT'S CURRENTLY LAYING AGAINST THE FENCE ON THE SIDE OF
22:09:50 THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY.
22:09:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR.
22:09:56 >> THERE IS OFF-STREET PARKING ON HOWARD AS THE SAME
22:09:59 BLOCK AS THEM AND ALSO ON CLEVELAND STREET SO IT'S WITHIN
22:10:02 A BLOCK WALKING DISTANCE.
22:10:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:10:04 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
22:10:05 >> MY NAME IS GREGORY ROOT.
22:10:22 I LIVE AT 3012 SITE MOODY AVENUE, IN THE 3 STORY TOWN
22:10:27 HOME IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT.
22:10:29 I SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE COUNCIL ON JUNE 9 DESCRIBING MY
22:10:33 CONCERNS WITH SO I WILL TRY NOT TO REPEAT MOST OF THAT.
22:10:38 ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE NOTE HEARD TONIGHT IS WHY DOES
22:10:42 SPARK NEED THIS ADDITIONAL PARKING?
22:10:44 I HAVEN'T HEARD HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WORK IN THE SPARK
22:10:47 BUILDING.
22:10:48 CURRENTLY THEY HAVE 17 PAID MARKED PARKING SPACES.
22:10:53 THEY HAVE 14 DESIGNATED AS EMPLOYEES, ONE HANDICAPPED
22:10:59 PARKING SPACE, TWO VISITOR SPACES.
22:11:01 AND THE UNPAVED LOT IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THEIR
22:11:04 BUILDING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN USING FOR MARKING, THAT CAN
22:11:08 ACCOMMODATE 14 VEHICLES.
22:11:12 SO BASICALLY THEY HAVE 31 SPACES NOW.
22:11:16 THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT WOULD ONLY ADD 7 SPACES, BECAUSE
22:11:21 THE PARKING LOT, SUPPOSED PARKING LOT IS SHOWING 21
22:11:26 SPACES.
22:11:26 BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY ON PROPERTY WHERE THEY CAN
22:11:29 ACCOMMODATE 14 SPACES ALREADY.
22:11:32 SO THE NEXT THING, 7.
22:11:36 SO WHY ARE THOSE 7 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES NEEDED?
22:11:39 IF THEY ARE TRULY NEEDED, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL
22:11:42 OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
22:11:45 A THERE'S ON-STREET PARKING AT THE SIDE STREET DIRECTLY
22:11:49 ACROSS FROM THEIR BUILDING.
22:11:50 AND THERE'S MORE THAN SEVEN SPACES THERE.
22:11:57 I'M ALSO OPPOSED TO THE WAIVER.
22:11:58 AND REDUCING THE BUFFER TO THE NORTH TO 5 FEET, 67%
22:12:04 REDUCTION.
22:12:06 HOW MUCH BENEFIT IS TO BE GAINED BY A 5-FOOT BUFFER?
22:12:12 AND THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A 6-FOOT PVC FENCE INSTEAD
22:12:16 OF A 6-FOOT CONCRETE WALL.
22:12:19 HOW IS THAT GOING TO FLY?
22:12:25 YOU KNOW, I SHARE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER AND ALL MY OTHER
22:12:29 NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL LEASING OF
22:12:34 THIS LOT TO THE BAR OR VALET SERVICE AFTER NORMAL WORKING
22:12:38 HOURS.
22:12:38 I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO
22:12:41 HAPPEN, BUT HONESTLY, CAN THE CITY COUNCIL GUARANTEE THE
22:12:45 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN?
22:12:47 IF YOU CAN, I WOULD SURE LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT GUARANTEE
22:12:51 IS EMPLOYED.
22:12:52 AND IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD, HOW DIFFICULT
22:12:56 DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET THIS
22:12:59 STOPPED?
22:12:59 I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S TIME CONSUMING AND VERY DIFFICULT.
22:13:06 I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT PURCHASED IN THAT TOWN HOME
22:13:13 TRIPLEX AND WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME AND MOVED IN, SPARK WAS
22:13:16 NOT IN OPERATION.
22:13:18 ONE THING I ALSO HAVEN'T HEARD, I HAVEN'T HEARD HOW THE
22:13:21 APPLICANT IS GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT THIS PARKING
22:13:25 FACILITY IS NOT GOING TO BE USED AFTER HOURS.
22:13:29 ARE THERE GOING TO BE LOCKED GATES?
22:13:31 I DON'T KNOW.
22:13:32 I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM THE APPLICANT.
22:13:34 I AM GOING TO BE HONEST, I AM VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS AND
22:13:37 I AM VERY CONCERNED.
22:13:40 SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL DENY THIS REQUEST.
22:13:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:13:46 NEXT SPEAKER.
22:13:46 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
22:13:57 I APPRECIATE THAT.
22:13:57 MY NAME IS MARK STEPHENSON, M-A-R-K, S-T-E-P-H-E-N-S-O-N.
22:14:04 I LIVE AT 213 SOUTH MOODY AVENUE AND THAT IS DIRECTLY
22:14:07 ACROSS FROM THE PARKING, FROM THE CUTE LITTLE BLUE HOUSE.
22:14:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU CAN TURN IT.
22:14:25 >> I DON'T NOT HOW WELL YOU CAN SEE THAT BUT THAT IS MY
22:14:29 VIEW FROM MY DINING ROOM WINDOW.
22:14:30 I WORK FROM HOME QUITE FREQUENTLY.
22:14:32 I AM ONE OF THE ORIGINAL SETTLERS IN THAT TOWNHOUSE.
22:14:36 WE HAVE BEEN IN THE TOWNHOUSE SINCE 2008 SO SIGNIFICANTLY
22:14:40 BEFORE SPARK PURCHASED.
22:14:41 WE KNEW JOE, THE RETIRED TEACHER THAT LIVED ACROSS THE
22:14:45 STREET IN THAT CUTE LITTLE BUNGALOW, AND A FEW THINGS I
22:14:48 WANT TO POINT OUT VERY QUICKLY, THAT'S MY DRIVEWAY, AND
22:14:51 THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM
22:14:54 MY DRIVEWAY.
22:14:55 I JUST WANT YOU TO PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES AND HOW YOU
22:14:58 WOULD FEEL ABOUT HAVING A 28-SPACE PARKING LOT ACROSS
22:15:01 FROM YOUR DRIVEWAY.
22:15:03 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU THINK THAT LEE
22:15:07 DEVELOPMENT, SMALL TWO BUNGALOW SOUTH OF KENNEDY, IS AN
22:15:13 UNPROFITABLE RESIDENTIAL EXPERIMENT, AND I THINK THAT YOU
22:15:16 HAVEN'T BEEN IN TAMPA LONG.
22:15:18 SO CLEARLY IT COULD BE EASILY REDEVELOPED INTO ANOTHER
22:15:22 TOWNHOUSE COMPLEX.
22:15:24 THEY COULD HAVE REFURBISHED THAT HOUSE AND IT WOULD HAVE
22:15:27 BEEN BEAUTIFUL.
22:15:30 THE OTHER PICTURE TO SHOW YOU THAT'S MY VIEW OF SPARK.
22:15:33 AND I AM GOING TO ECHO WHAT ENA SAID, AND THAT IS AFTER
22:15:38 SITTING AT THAT WINDOW EATING DINNER AND WORKING ON MY
22:15:41 LAPTOP FOR TEN YEARS, A HAND FULL OF TIMES I HAVE SEEN A
22:15:44 FULL PARKING LOT.
22:15:45 SOUTH TAMPA DOES NOT HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM BEFORE FIVE.
22:15:49 OR BEFORE 7 OR 8:00 AT NIGHT.
22:15:52 THERE'S AMPLE PARKING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE.
22:15:54 IT'S NOT A NEED.
22:15:56 AND ALSO AS ENA SAID, OR AS GREG SAID, THE IDEA THAT THEY
22:16:02 ARE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SAFETY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES
22:16:04 IN THE AREA, BY PARTIALLY FENCING OFF A PARKING LOT, JUST
22:16:09 DOESN'T HOLD WATER.
22:16:11 IT'S MY OBSERVATION THAT THEY DO OR HAVE RECENTLY RENTED
22:16:15 OUT THEIR PARKING SPACE TO VALET SERVICES.
22:16:18 SO IF THE BUSINESS DOES NOT HAVE EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE THERE
22:16:23 IS AMPLE PARKING, AND THE HOUSE IS OBVIOUSLY MARKETABLE
22:16:26 IF IT WERE TREATED DIFFERENTLY, AND THE PROPERTY IS
22:16:29 MARKETABLE, THEN THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN THINK IS A
22:16:32 POSSIBLE ENDEAVOR FOR SPARK IS SPECIFICALLY AT SOME POINT
22:16:36 THEY INTEND TO LEASE OUT THAT SPACE TO VALET SERVICE,
22:16:39 WHICH IS A GREAT MONEY-MAKING EXERCISE.
22:16:42 AND IF I WERE A BUSINESS OWNER THAT DIDN'T HAVE A VESTED
22:16:46 INTEREST IN THAT AREA, ONE THAT I MIGHT CONSIDER.
22:16:49 BUT THE IDEA THAT WE CONTINUE THIS EROSION ON WHAT IS A
22:16:54 TERRIFIC LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON
22:16:57 SOUTH MOODY, THERE'S SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, THERE'S
22:17:01 TOWNHOMES, THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS.
22:17:03 SURPRISINGLY IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE MANAGED TO BUILD A
22:17:06 COHESIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:17:08 I WISH I COULD -- I INHERITED EVERYONE FROM BON AIR TO
22:17:13 COME IN BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH COUNSEL THAT IT IS VERY
22:17:16 SIMILAR.
22:17:17 WE MAY NOT BE ZONED THE SAME BUT WE HAVE A NICE LITTLE
22:17:20 COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
22:17:23 WE HAVE FAMILIES.
22:17:24 LIKE I SAID, I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR TEN YEARS.
22:17:26 AND --
22:17:29 >>> THANKS VERY MUCH.
22:17:30 >> WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO DECLINE THE APPLICATION
22:17:34 FOR THIS TO BECOME A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
22:17:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
22:17:37 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
22:17:38 >> MY NAME IS MADELYN PRUITT, MADELINE, PRII -- PRUITT.
22:17:50 I'M A HOMEOWNER.
22:17:51 I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SPARK.
22:17:54 AND I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THAT HOME FOR FOUR YEARS.
22:17:58 SINGLE FEMALE, OWNING A TOWN HOME, AND SOUTH MOODY AVENUE
22:18:03 AS OTHER RESIDENTS HAVE STATED, WE HAVE BUILT A COMMUNITY
22:18:06 OF TOWNHOMES.
22:18:08 IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TOWN HOME ROW.
22:18:10 IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE HAD AT LEAST FOUR MORE
22:18:13 TOWNHOMES GO UP.
22:18:14 AND IT'S BECOME A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SIDE STREET
22:18:19 NEIGHBORHOOD FOR US RESIDENTS WITH FAMILIES AND CHILDREN,
22:18:26 AND AGAIN, WE KIND OF STAND HERE TONIGHT.
22:18:31 JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE.
22:18:33 THIS IS NOW BECOMING A PATTERN IN SOUTH TAMPA.
22:18:38 WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
22:18:40 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW THEY WANT TO PUT IN PARKING LOTS.
22:18:44 THOSE PARKING LOTS TECHNICALLY CREATE MORE TRAFFIC, MORE
22:18:48 SPEEDING, MORE CRIME.
22:18:50 WE HAVE HAD SHOOTINGS.
22:18:51 WE HAVE HAD VANDALISM.
22:18:52 IT'S COSTING US OUR OWN MONEY TO FIX UP THIS STREET.
22:18:58 AND, AGAIN, WE ARE LITERALLY PARALLEL TO SOUTH HOWARD.
22:19:05 WHAT GOES ON ON SOUTH HOWARD IS ALL THE BARS AND
22:19:09 RESTAURANTS, WHERE THE YOUNG HOUSE CROWDS COME.
22:19:13 WE HEAR THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
22:19:15 SO ONCE AGAIN, THE 5-FOOT FENCE, WHICH IS SHORTER THAN I
22:19:21 AM, IS EASILY -- CAN EASILY BE OPPOSED, JUMP THE FENCE.
22:19:26 WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE -- HOMELESS PEOPLE AROUND
22:19:32 ALSO LOOKING FOR PLACES TO SQUAT.
22:19:34 SO HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE LOCKED UP TO
22:19:38 PREVENT PUBLIC PARKING, OR IN THE FUTURE WE KNOW PUBLIC
22:19:43 PARKING FOR THIS AREA FOR BARS IS A MONEY MAKER.
22:19:47 HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS OWNER, SPARK, IS NOT GOING TO DO
22:19:51 THAT JUST BEYOND VERBALLY?
22:19:54 BUT, AGAIN, THEY COME BACK FOR ALL THESE, IF THEY WANT TO
22:20:00 FIND WAYS TO FIX SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS, OUR ANSWER IS
22:20:03 STILL NO.
22:20:04 WE WILL NOT AGREE TO IT.
22:20:05 AND WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL WE ASK YOU GUYS TO PLEASE DON'T
22:20:12 GO FORWARD WITH THIS PARKING LOT.
22:20:13 THIS IS REDUCING OUR HOME VALUE.
22:20:17 AND AGAIN, THE MAIN THING IS NOW THIS IS JUST GOING TO
22:20:23 INCREASE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH
22:20:26 FAMILIES AND CHILDREN OR SINGLE HOMEOWNERS LIKE MYSELF.
22:20:31 THANK YOU.
22:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:20:32 NEXT SPEAKER.
22:20:33 >> JESS KARSTENS.
22:20:50 I AM ONE OF THE ORIGINAL OWNERS AT 212 SOUTH MOODY.
22:20:53 AND I HAVE MY MASTER BEDROOM AND TWO GUEST BEDROOMS THAT
22:20:57 LOOK DIRECTLY DOWN UPON SPARK'S NOW PURCHASED HOME THAT
22:21:02 THEY HAVE TURNED INTO A PARKING LOT.
22:21:05 I HAVE BEEN WOKEN UP NUMEROUS TIMES BY FIGHTS, BY PEOPLE
22:21:09 PLAYING THEIR MUSIC VERY, VERY LOUD, AND AN ACTUAL
22:21:14 DRIVE-BY SHOOTING THAT HAPPENED ON APRIL 1st OF 2017.
22:21:17 I WAS SLEEPING ON MY COUCH ON MY SECOND FLOOR, WAKE UP TO
22:21:21 GUNSHOTS, GO UP ON MY TERRACE AND HEAR NOTHING BUT
22:21:24 FRANTIC YELLING.
22:21:25 I GRAB SOME TOWELS.
22:21:27 I RUN OVER.
22:21:28 I SEE TWO PEOPLE LAYING ON THE GROUND.
22:21:30 ONE WITH A BULLET HOLE IN THE CENTER OF HIS BACK AND
22:21:34 ANOTHER ONE GETTING CPR LIKE A MOVIE SCENE AND BLOOD JUST
22:21:38 COMING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE BODY.
22:21:39 THIS WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME MOVE OUT OF MY TOWNHOUSE AND
22:21:43 MAKE ME RENT IT OUT.
22:21:44 SO IF YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GUARANTEE US THAT
22:21:49 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO USE THAT PARKING LOT FOR SOMETHING
22:21:51 ELSE, I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
22:21:52 BECAUSE THAT NIGHT STILL STICKS WITH ME IN MY HEAD.
22:21:55 YOU CAN TELL ME THAT IT DOESN'T.
22:21:57 BUT TO SEE TWO GUYS LAYING THERE WITH BULLET HOLES IN
22:22:00 THEIR BACKS THAT LITERALLY ARE FIVE FEET AWAY FROM MY
22:22:03 BACKYARD, IT'S NOT A GOOD FEELING.
22:22:05 SO LITERALLY, I MOVED FROM SOUTH MOODY AFTER THAT
22:22:08 INCIDENT.
22:22:10 AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE THAT INTO
22:22:12 CONSIDERATION AND DENY THE PARKING LOT, PLEASE.
22:22:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:22:20 NEXT SPEAKER.
22:22:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE PART OF THE PETITION.
22:22:36 ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
22:22:37 NO?
22:22:38 YES, MR. SHELBY?
22:22:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I
22:22:42 HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CORRESPONDENCE TO CITY
22:22:47 COUNCIL --
22:22:51 >>> CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
22:22:54 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
22:22:56 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:22:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:22:58 ALL RIGHT.
22:22:58 SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO
22:23:02 REBUTTAL AT THIS POINT?
22:23:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE MORE COMMENT, IF I
22:23:13 CAN.
22:23:17 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER, PLEASE DO
22:23:20 SO BEFORE THE REBUTTAL SO THEY CAN HAVE THE LAST WORD.
22:23:23 SO NOW WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY.
22:23:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:23:25 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER AT THIS TIME?
22:23:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AFTER HEARING SOME OF THE COMMENTS, I
22:23:36 HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
22:23:38 ONE, IS THE PARKING LOT NOW BEING UTILIZED IN VIOLATION?
22:23:47 >> NO.
22:23:49 IT IS NOT.
22:23:51 AND PARKING, I BELIEVE SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES PARK IN THE
22:23:56 BACKYARD OF THE HOUSE.
22:23:59 THERE IS AN OLD FENCE THERE.
22:24:00 FENCE BROKE DOWN.
22:24:01 THEY MOVED THE FENCE, AND THEY DID THAT.
22:24:04 SO, NO.
22:24:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN YOUR STATEMENT EARLIER, YOU SAID
22:24:11 MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL AND WOULD THE PARKING LOT BE LOCKED?
22:24:15 >> YES.
22:24:17 THAT'S PART OF REBUTTAL.
22:24:19 I'M SORRY, I DID NOT EXPLAIN IT PROPERLY.
22:24:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
22:24:25 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
22:24:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:24:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:24:34 THE 2017 SHOOTING, IT HOME FOR A LOT OF US, AND I
22:24:41 SYMPATHIZE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.
22:24:44 BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE CAN'T CARRY THAT OVER AND
22:24:51 BLAME SPARK AND THEIR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW.
22:24:54 SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW.
22:25:05 MA'AM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT YOUR CLIENT DID COME UP WITH
22:25:11 YOU AND DID INDICATE HE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE.
22:25:14 >> CORRECT.
22:25:17 I WILL HAVE HIM COME UP.
22:25:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE CAN HELP YOU USE THOSE MINUTES.
22:25:22 BUT I THINK THERE WERE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS THAT WERE
22:25:24 RAISED THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES INDICATED, FROM THE SITE
22:25:28 PLAN AS YOU HAVE HEARD PROBABLY EARLIER, WE CAN PUT SOME
22:25:31 OF THESE LIMITATIONS ON THE PLAN FOR SECOND READING AND
22:25:36 POSSIBLY FOR APPROVAL IN TERMS OF THE LIMITATIONS OF THE
22:25:41 DAYS, FRIDAY, I WOULD ASSUME IT'S TYPICALLY A BUSINESS
22:25:48 HOUR, HOURS OF USE.
22:25:51 I'M SURE SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES MIGHT STAY TILL 7 OR 8
22:25:55 EVEN.
22:25:55 BUT IF THEY AGREED TO CLOSE IT AFTER 7 OR 8:00 IN THE
22:25:58 EVENING, THEN IT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT THE BARS ARE GOING
22:26:02 TO USE IT, THAT THEY WOULD AGREE NOT TO RENT OUT, RENT OR
22:26:12 LEASE THE PROPERTY TO ANYBODY ELSE FOR ANY OTHER USE,
22:26:14 EXCEPT FOR THE USE GOING ON IN THAT BUILDING THAT'S NEXT
22:26:18 TO IT.
22:26:24 BUT YOU GOT THE BALL HERE.
22:26:31 IF YOU AND YOUR CLIENT SEE FIT.
22:26:33 WE CAN'T IMPOSE THEM ON YOU OURSELVES.
22:26:36 BUT TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, IT MIGHT
22:26:42 BE SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE WE GET
22:26:44 TO THE POINT.
22:26:47 THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, MR. MICHELINI,
22:26:50 IRONICALLY, IS HERE, AND HAD BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN
22:26:53 THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, MULTIFAMILY
22:26:58 HOMES, THEN IT BECAME TOWNHOMES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
22:27:01 BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE USE, SPECIFICALLY THE
22:27:07 GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES NEXT DOOR SAID, I DON'T WANT THE
22:27:11 PARKING LOT WITHIN FIVE FEET.
22:27:12 BUT IF A TOWN HOME WAS BUILT, THAT TOWN HOME IS GOING TO
22:27:16 BE TYPICALLY BUILT WITHIN FIVE TO SEVEN FEET ANYWAY.
22:27:20 AND THEN YOU HAVE GOT, I'M NOT SAYING TO THE YOU BUT I'M
22:27:24 SAYING IT TO THE OTHER PERSON, THEN YOU HAVE GOT A
22:27:26 VERTICAL WALL THERE, YOU KNOW, 35 FEET TALL.
22:27:30 SO YOU HAVE GOT TO WEIGH THAT AS WELL.
22:27:32 BUT ANYWAY, SUGGESTING THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD BE
22:27:37 INCLUDED OAT SITE PLAN AS SELF-IMPOSED LIMITATIONS, AND
22:27:41 THEY WOULD BE ENFORCEABLE, BECAUSE IF IT'S ON THE SITE
22:27:44 PLAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE HE HAVE SINGLE ONE OF THE
22:27:47 NEIGHBORS TO MAKE A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN, STICK IT AWAY
22:27:49 IN YOUR FILE, AND SOME DAY, THE NEXT OWNER, BECAUSE THIS
22:27:54 WILL RUN WITH THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN CALL UP THE CITY AND
22:27:57 SAY, THEY ARE RENTING IT OUT, THE NEXT OWNER, NOT YOU,
22:28:01 THEY ARE RENTING IT OUT, CONTRARY TO THE SITE PLAN, CODE
22:28:04 ENFORCEMENT WILL COME OUT AND SITE THEM FOR THAT TYPE OF
22:28:07 THING.
22:28:08 I KNOW -- THAT'S THE WAY THE CITY WORKS.
22:28:12 SO, ANYWAY, GO AHEAD.
22:28:17 GO AHEAD.
22:28:18 >> OH, THANK YOU.
22:28:19 WELL, EVERYTHING THEY SAID, I HEARD IT FROM MY CLIENT.
22:28:28 HE IS TIRED OF CRACK, EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, ON HIS
22:28:34 PROPERTY.
22:28:34 HE IS TIRED OF THOSE PEOPLE FROM SOHO COMING UP TO HIS
22:28:39 PROPERTY.
22:28:39 IT'S EASY TO GET TO, THE HOOKAH LOUNGE AND GO THERE AND
22:28:43 THEY GO BEHIND HIS PROPERTY.
22:28:46 I HEARD IT.
22:28:47 NOT ONLY I HEARD IT, HE WAS ADAMANT, ABOUT THERE IS A
22:28:52 SITE PLAN, THERE IS A GATE ALONG THE ACCESS, IT HAS TO BE
22:28:55 SET BACK TO PROVIDE DISTANCE TO THE SIDEWALK AND WEIGHED
22:29:00 TO REDESIGN THE WHOLE SITE BECAUSE HE WAS ADAMANT ABOUT
22:29:03 HAVING IT LOCKED.
22:29:05 HE WANTS IT LOCKED AFTER HOURS.
22:29:07 HE DOES NOT WANT NUB ELSE ON THE PROPERTY.
22:29:09 THIS IS HIS PROPERTY, PART OF HIS BUSINESS, AND HE HAS TO
22:29:16 CARE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS.
22:29:17 HE CARES ABOUT IT.
22:29:18 I HAVE BEEN HEARING IT FOR OVER A YEAR HOW HE WANTS TO
22:29:21 MAKE IT BETTER, HE WANTS TO MAKE IT NICER.
22:29:23 HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.
22:29:26 EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID, HE WILL TELL YOU.
22:29:28 HE WILL TELL YOU.
22:29:30 HE AGREES WITH THEM.
22:29:33 WE WILL DEFINITELY -- AND I KNOW HE WILL AGREE, AND HE
22:29:35 CAN COME UP AND SAY IT.
22:29:38 HOURS OF OPERATION, ABSOLUTELY.
22:29:39 YOU WANT TO PUT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE GATED AND NOT
22:29:42 VALETED.
22:29:45 ABSOLUTELY.
22:29:48 SO IF YOU WANT TO -- WELL, LET ME GO BACK A LITTLE BIT.
22:29:53 I HEARD SOME CONCERN ABOUT STORMWATER POND.
22:29:55 WE WILL MEAT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
22:29:58 MARY HAS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT ON
22:30:00 THE SITE PLAN.
22:30:01 WE WILL DO THAT.
22:30:03 THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WE AGREE WITH IT BUT WE ARE NOT THE
22:30:07 NOISE MAKERS.
22:30:08 IT'S AN OFFICE, BUSINESS.
22:30:15 IF YOU DIDN'T CARE, HE WOULD VALET BUT HE DOES CARE AND
22:30:21 INVEST IN THE AREA AND HE DOES NOT WANT THE VALET.
22:30:23 AND THERE'S ACTUALLY NO VALET GOING ON NOW OR IN THE
22:30:27 FUTURE.
22:30:31 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO INCREASE ACTIVITY IN THE
22:30:34 NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:30:35 THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
22:30:36 THEY WANT THIS TO BE PRIVATE FOR HIS CLIENTS, FOR THEIR
22:30:39 EMPLOYEES.
22:30:42 THERE'S THE ON STREET PARKING.
22:30:47 SO HE AGREES WITH THEM.
22:30:49 HE WANTS TO INVEST INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:30:51 HE IS INVESTING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:30:53 AND HE STARTED SPARK TEN YEARS AGO.
22:30:58 AND I MEANT WHEN I SAID, HE'S BEEN THERE FOR TEN YEARS
22:31:02 PRIOR TO THE -- PURCHASED THE PROPERTY TEN YEARS PRIOR TO
22:31:05 THE DEVELOPMENT.
22:31:09 THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, HE DID SAY HE PURCHASED THAT
22:31:13 FIVE YEARS AGO.
22:31:14 BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
22:31:17 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD?
22:31:19 >> MICHAEL BEERS.
22:31:27 THE WHOLE SHOOTING AT THE HOOKAH LOUNGE IS ONE OF THE
22:31:30 MAIN REASONS I WANT THIS TO BE SECURE.
22:31:33 IT'S CONCERNING FOR MY EMPLOYEES BACK THERE.
22:31:36 AND THAT HOOKAH LOUNGE, IT'S BAD NEWS.
22:31:39 THE BUILDING WAG SHOT.
22:31:41 THERE'S A BULLET HOLE IN OUR BUILDING.
22:31:44 I HAVE PLENTY OF FEMALE EMPLOYEES.
22:31:45 THEY LEAVE AT NIGHT.
22:31:46 AND IT'S CONCERNING TO ME.
22:31:48 SO I WANT TO WALL THAT UP SO THAT PEOPLE CAN'T COME OVER
22:31:53 THERE AND DO DRUGS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING AND LEAVING
22:31:56 TRASH EVERYWHERE.
22:31:58 WHEN I BOUGHT THE BUILDING TEN YEARS AGO, WE DID VALET IT
22:32:01 FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
22:32:03 AND IT WAS HORRIBLE.
22:32:04 AND SO WE STOPPED.
22:32:06 AND SO FORTH LAST SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS, I COULD HAVE
22:32:09 BEEN MAKING A LOT OF MONEY OFF THAT WITH VALET.
22:32:12 BUT I DON'T DO THAT.
22:32:14 I HAVEN'T DONE IT.
22:32:20 SO IF A HOUSE WERE TO GO THERE, A TOWNHOUSE, IT WOULD
22:32:25 PROBABLY BE MORE CEMENT THAN THE PARKING LOT THAT I AM
22:32:30 PROPOSING.
22:32:31 AND, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT FACE OF THAT AREA, THEY CALLED
22:32:34 IT A CUTE LITTLE BUNGALOW.
22:32:36 THIS BUNGALOW IS FALLING DOWN.
22:32:38 IT IS FAR FROM THAT.
22:32:39 BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T A CUTE LITTLE BUNGALOW, ONCE AGAIN I
22:32:43 COULD HAVE BEEN RENTING IT AND MAKING LOTS OF MONEY BUT
22:32:45 IT'S NOT EVEN SAFE.
22:32:46 IT'S HORRIBLE.
22:32:47 SO IT NEEDS TO COME DOWN.
22:32:48 I WANT TO PUT A BEAUTIFUL BLOCK FENCE CEMENT OR WALL IN
22:32:53 THE FRONT WITH A GATE SO IT IS SECURE.
22:32:55 AND I WANT TO TIE IT INTO THE OVERALL PROPERTY AND I'M
22:32:59 FRESHENING UP THE SPARK WITH A NEW ENTRANCE TO MAKE IT
22:33:06 BETTER. THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN AN AWARD WINNING BUILDING
22:33:09 AND I AM GOING TO CONTINUE THAT AND GET RID OF THE OLD
22:33:12 BUNGALOW, LIKE ALL THE TOWNHOUSES DID, BUT I AM GOING TO
22:33:15 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PARKING LOT THAT WILL BE A BACK DOOR
22:33:19 SPACE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
22:33:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
22:33:24 SIR?
22:33:27 WERE YOU LISTENING TO MR. DINGFELDER WHEN HE WAS TALKING
22:33:29 ABOUT THE INCLUSION OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE
22:33:33 SITE PLAN?
22:33:34 >> FOR THE VALET?
22:33:36 THAT ONE?
22:33:38 YES.
22:33:38 I AM NOT GOING TO RENT IT OUT TO VALLEY.
22:33:40 I WILL PUT IT ON THERE.
22:33:41 IF FOR SOME REASON I HAD A HOLIDAY PARTY AND HAD A VALET
22:33:45 SERVICE AT THAT PARTY, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT
22:33:48 FOR LIKE SPECIAL OCCASIONS.
22:33:51 BUT TO RENT TO THE A VALET FOR THE BARS, I DON'T WANT THE
22:33:55 DRUNKS AND EVERYTHING.
22:33:56 I DON'T WANT THEM ON MY PROPERTY EITHER.
22:33:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO A SECURED LOT THEN?
22:34:03 >> YES.
22:34:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. PETERS, OR ACTUALLY, THE LAND USE
22:34:14 PROFESSIONAL OR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL, I'M NOT SEEING
22:34:17 A WHOLE LOT OF LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTY.
22:34:22 AND IT DOES CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT OF THESE NEIGHBORS
22:34:25 ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW.
22:34:27 TYPICALLY, A SUITE LITTLE HOUSE HAD SOME SWEET LITTLE
22:34:31 SHRUBS, TREES IN FRONT AND THAT SORT OF THING.
22:34:34 I'M NOT SEEING THAT ON THIS DRAWING.
22:34:36 I DON'T KNOW IF CODE REQUIRES IT.
22:34:39 I THINK IT SURE WOULD BE A NICE THING, AESTHETICALLY.
22:34:44 BETTER THAN JUST LOOKING AT A WALL THAT THEY MIGHT BE
22:34:46 ABLE TO SEE SOME LANDSCAPING.
22:34:48 I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY -- IT LOOKS LIKE PROPERTY IN
22:34:54 THAT 12-FOOT SETBACK WHERE YOU COULD INCLUDE SOME
22:34:57 LANDSCAPING.
22:34:57 >> SOME OF IT HAS TO BE REMOVED FROM CITY REQUIREMENTS.
22:35:01 SOME HAD TO BE REMOVED PER CITY REQUIREMENTS.
22:35:05 BUT DEFINITELY GOING TO BE REPLACED.
22:35:07 >> I'M GOING TO ADD LANDSCAPING TO THE WHOLE FRONT OF THE
22:35:15 BUILDING.
22:35:16 IT SHOWED THE FRONT IMAGE TO PARK THERE.
22:35:18 I AM GOING TO PUT SOME LANDSCAPING THERE ON THE SIDE OF
22:35:20 THE BUILDING.
22:35:21 I AM GOING TO PUT SOME MORE TREES.
22:35:22 AND THEN AROUND THE PARKING LOT I WANT TO PUT AS MANY
22:35:25 TREES AS POSSIBLE AS WELL.
22:35:27 SO LANDSCAPING, I AM BRINGING IN A LANDSCAPE DESIGNER TO
22:35:32 DO THIS.
22:35:33 IT'S NOT LIKE I AM GOING TO DO IT --
22:35:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN CLEARLY, MR. SHELBY REMIND US
22:35:39 OFTEN, EVEN THOUGH WE BELIEVE YOU, IT NEEDS TO END UP ON
22:35:43 THE SITE PLAN, IF ANYBODY ELSE, IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE
22:35:46 GOING TO RELY ON IT.
22:35:47 SO IF THAT'S YOUR INTENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT,
22:35:52 MARY.
22:35:55 WHEN WE DO THAT.
22:35:57 MR. CHAIR?
22:35:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
22:36:00 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THERE ARE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR
22:36:04 PARKING LOTS AS PART OF THE CODE.
22:36:05 THE LANDSCAPING PLAN IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO BE ON A
22:36:09 SPECIAL USE PLAN.
22:36:10 SO THAT'S WHY THE DETAILED LANDSCAPING IS NOT SHOWN ON
22:36:14 THE SPECIAL USE PLAN.
22:36:15 IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE.
22:36:16 THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING
22:36:19 PROVISIONS WITHIN THE ZONING CODE AT TIME OF PERMITTING.
22:36:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO CAN YOU TELL US THEN A LITTLE BIT,
22:36:27 JUST SO THEY AND WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF
22:36:31 ULTIMATELY WHERE THE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE ON THE SITE
22:36:33 PLAN?
22:36:35 EVEN THOUGH IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE SITE PLAN, ON THE SITE
22:36:39 ITSELF.
22:36:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THERE WOULD BE WITHIN THE 8-FOOT
22:36:42 REQUIRED BUFFER, THERE WOULD BE A SOLID ROW OF HEDGES AND
22:36:45 THEN A STREET TREE EVERY 30 FEET ON CENTER.
22:36:48 AND THEN THE USE BUFFER IS TYPICALLY 15 FEET OF JUST
22:36:53 BASIC GREEN SPACE WITH THE 6-FOOT HIGH WALL.
22:36:56 THEY ARE ASKING TO WAIVE THAT DOWN TO 5 FEET.
22:36:59 SO THEY COULD CONNECT TO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WITHIN
22:37:02 THAT AREA AS A COMPENSATION FOR THE TEN FOOT OF GREEN
22:37:07 SPACE.
22:37:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND HOW ABOUT ON THE MOODY SIDE?
22:37:12 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THAT'S THE 8-FOOT WITH THE HEDGING AND
22:37:15 STREET TREE EVERY 30 FEET.
22:37:18 FOR THE MOODY SIDE AND THEY HAVE TO BE FULLY LANDSCAPED,
22:37:22 TO IT SOUTH IS NOTE APPLICABLE BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY JOINS
22:37:24 A COMMERCIAL LOT.
22:37:25 TO THE NORTH THEY COULD COMMIT TO ADDITIONAL PHYSICAL
22:37:28 LANDSCAPING.
22:37:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WOULD NEED
22:37:31 TO DO OVER AND ABOVE THE CODE?
22:37:33 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT, SIR.
22:37:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
22:37:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:37:38 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
22:37:42 ANYTHING ELSE?
22:37:43 >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE HAD A 5-FOOT FENCE,
22:37:50 REALLY A 6-FOOT FENCE.
22:37:52 THE 5-FOOT BUFFER.
22:37:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:37:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:37:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE CLOSE, IN THE
22:37:59 SPIRIT OF HOPEFULLY COMPROMISE AND COOPERATION [RUSTLING
22:38:07 PAPERS] I THINK WE WOULD NEED SOME COMMITMENT, IF THAT'S
22:38:11 THEIR INTENT, IN REGARD TO THE HOURS OF USE AS A WRITTEN
22:38:18 LIMITATION ON THE SITE PLAN, A COMMITMENT TO NOT LEAST TO
22:38:25 ANYBODY UNASSOCIATED WITH THE BUILDING, A COMMITMENT TO
22:38:28 LOCK GATE AFTER HOURS, AND A COMMITMENT TO THE ADDITIONAL
22:38:35 LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING OVER AND ABOVE THE CODE IN THE
22:38:42 5-FOOT SETBACK ON THE NORTH SIDE.
22:38:47 SO IF YOU WANT TO COMMIT TO THOSE, I THINK THE ONLY ONE
22:38:49 THAT YOU NEED TO FILL IN THE BLANK WOULD BE THE HOURS OF
22:38:52 USE NO LATER THAN BLANK.
22:38:55 WHAT TIME?
22:38:55 >> A GATE BE CLOSED AT A CERTAIN TIME.
22:39:04 I CAN'T KICK EVERYONE OUT AT A CERTAIN TIME.
22:39:07 >> THE GATE IS GOING DO OPEN DURING THE DAY DURING
22:39:10 BUSINESS HOURS.
22:39:12 BUT 6:00 OR 7:00 THE GATE IS CLOSED.
22:39:16 SO IF YOU HAVE THAT EMPLOYEE THAT STAYS AFTER HOURS AND
22:39:19 THEY ARE PARKED THERE, WHERE THEY WANT TO BE PARKED
22:39:23 BECAUSE OF SAFETY, THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD USE IT 124 WELL,
22:39:27 YOU CRAFT IT AND WE'LL VOTE ON IT.
22:39:29 SO WHAT TIME WOULD YOU WANT TO LOCK THE GATE?
22:39:32 >> I CAN LOCK THE GATE AT 7:00.
22:39:36 >> LOCKING THE GATE AT 7:00.
22:39:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN HOW ABOUT THE OTHER?
22:39:44 >> THE HOURS OF OPERATION TYPICALLY FROM --
22:39:51 >> HOURS OF OPERATION.
22:39:52 >> AND THEN RENTAL, NO RENTAL AND NONE OF THAT.
22:39:59 ABSOLUTELY WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE PLAN.
22:40:01 LOCK GATES, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
22:40:04 ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ABOVE CODE, WE COULD DEFINITELY --
22:40:09 WE WILL COMMIT TO THAT.
22:40:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE NORTH SIDE?
22:40:15 >> ON THE NORTH SIDE, YES.
22:40:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:40:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
22:40:19 I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE.
22:40:20 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
22:40:21 >> MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MAN GUDES.
22:40:24 SECOND FROM VIERA.
22:40:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:40:26 ALL RIGHT.
22:40:27 WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
22:40:35 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS?
22:40:42 ANYBODY?
22:40:47 CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL?
22:40:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL GO AHEAD AND
22:40:55 MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.
22:40:57 I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE MET THE CRITERIA TO
22:41:02 ACCOMMODATE THE WAIVERS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.
22:41:09 LET ME SEE IF I CAN HELP ON THE LANGUAGE HERE.
22:41:17 I BELIEVE THEIR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE
22:41:22 LAND USE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN THE STAFF
22:41:24 REPORT, AS WELL AS PROVISIONS IN CHAPTER 27.
22:41:31 AND WITH THAT, AND SPECIFICALLY, THE CONCESSIONS THAT
22:41:35 THEY HAVE MADE, I WOULD HOPE MIGHT NOT TOTALLY SATISFY
22:41:40 THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT AT LEAST MAYBE GIVE YOU SOME
22:41:45 ASSURANCE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A RENTAL LOT,
22:41:49 AND --
22:41:53 >> (SPEAKING FROM FLOOR)
22:41:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
22:42:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.
22:42:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY, LET ME IF HE -- FINISH MY
22:42:10 MOTION.
22:42:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANTED TO CITE THE GENERAL STANDARD
22:42:14 OF THE CRITERIA AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE RESPECT TO THE
22:42:19 CODE.
22:42:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
22:42:20 THERE'S A POINT OF 129, AS WELL AS -- WELL, ANYTHING
22:42:27 ELSE?
22:42:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SPECIAL USE CRITERIA. 27-132.
22:42:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
22:42:40 ANYWAY, IT'S NOT A PERFECT WORLD.
22:42:44 THEY HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
22:42:46 I BELIEVE THE CONCERNS WERE WE HAVE GOT TO PROTECT THIS
22:42:51 PROPERTY AND NOT LET IT BE RENTED OUT.
22:42:53 I THINK WE ARE DOING THAT WITH THE CONCESSIONS THAT HAVE
22:42:56 BEEN IDENTIFIED.
22:42:59 THEY COULD BE MAKING BY TRYING TO RENT THAT OUT BUT HE'S
22:43:02 NOT.
22:43:02 AND HE WON'T IN THE FUTURE.
22:43:03 AND YOU HAVE OUR PHONE NUMBER IF HE DOES.
22:43:08 AND WE CAN GET CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE.
22:43:10 AND IF HE SELLS THE PROPERTY, EACH THE NEXT PROPERTY
22:43:16 OWNER CAN'T BECAUSE THE RULES RUN WITH THE PROPERTY.
22:43:20 AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S THE BEST THAT I CAN
22:43:25 DO TONIGHT.
22:43:27 I'LL MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
22:43:29 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
22:43:31 PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING IN AN
22:43:35 RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE
22:43:38 GENERAL VICINITY OF 214 SOUTH MOODY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
22:43:42 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
22:43:44 SECTION 1 HEREOF PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
22:43:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
22:43:48 >> SECOND.
22:43:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
22:43:51 GUDES.
22:43:51 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
22:43:54 OPPOSED?
22:43:57 LET'S DO ROLL CALL.
22:43:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
22:44:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
22:44:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
22:44:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
22:44:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
22:44:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
22:44:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND CITRO
22:44:19 VOTING NO.
22:44:20 CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
22:44:22 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16 AT
22:44:25 9:30 A.M.
22:44:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:44:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:44:28 I SEE MR. GRANDOFF IN THE BACK.
22:44:30 BACK TO NUMBER 4 QUICKLY.
22:44:32 DO WE NEED TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK INTO THE ROOM?
22:44:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: INVENT THOSE WHO CAN WAKE IT AND THOSE
22:44:42 WHO CANNOT CAN SIT OUTSIDE WITH CLOSED CAPTIONING.
22:44:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS MANY AS WE CAN WITH SELF
22:44:49 DISTANCING GUIDELINES.
22:44:52 PARKING LOT.
22:44:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET US OUT OF
22:45:12 HERE BY SATURDAY.
22:45:14 I WAS HOPING FOR 9:00.
22:45:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
22:45:18 YOU ARE AN OPTIMIST.
22:45:19
22:46:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:46:17 GO AHEAD, SIR.
22:46:18 YOUR REBUTTAL.
22:46:22 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 4.
22:46:24 SU-2-20-01.
22:46:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
22:46:29 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:46:31 JOHN GRANDOFF ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
22:46:33 ITEM 4 ON YOUR AGENDA.
22:46:36 WE HAVE I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT OUR PROPOSED COMPROMISE IS.
22:46:42 ON THE SITE PLAN, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN ELIMINATE THE
22:46:48 WAIVER ON THE EAST.
22:46:49 SO THAT WILL BE 15 FEET BUFFER WITH A MASONRY WALL 6 FEET
22:46:56 HIGH FINISHED ON BOTH ENDS.
22:46:58 BY CODE, NO WAIVER REQUIRED.
22:47:00 I HAVE DRAWN A BLUE LINE HERE, APPROXIMATELY TAKING 27
22:47:06 FEET OFF OF HERE TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE. IF
22:47:11 THERE'S 8 FEET HERE, THESE SPACES ARE 9 FEET.
22:47:15 SO THAT GETS YOU 26.
22:47:17 BUT TO GET US THE FULL 100 WE LOSE THREE SPACES SO THIS
22:47:21 SPACE GOES. THIS SPACE GOES.
22:47:23 PROBABLY THIS SPACE GOES.
22:47:25 SO NO WAIVER REQUIRED, 100 FEET.
22:47:28 WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAIVER HERE BECAUSE IF WE GIVE AWAY
22:47:30 THREE HERE, WE HAVE TO GET IT BACK HERE. SO THIS WAIVER
22:47:33 WOULD GO TO ZERO.
22:47:34 I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY OBJECTION AS TO THIS BUFFER WAIVER.
22:47:39 AND REMEMBER, THIS IS A 27-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY RIGHT HERE
22:47:43 ON THE SIDEWALK.
22:47:44 SO WE JUST SHIFT THE BUILDING, SHIFT THE PARKING LOT TO
22:47:49 THE WEST THREE FEET, AND TO THE NORTH 100 FEET.
22:47:52 THE REMAINING ENHANCEMENTS WE WOULD ALSO PROVIDE.
22:47:56 I TALKED TO JO HADLEY WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
22:48:03 NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:48:04 THIS WAS REJECTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:48:06 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS PROPOSAL AS
22:48:10 I HAVE EXPLAINED IT TO YOU.
22:48:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:48:12 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
22:48:14 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
22:48:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT WEIRD,
22:48:22 MR. GRANDOFF, AND YOU PROBABLY HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE
22:48:26 ADDITIONAL REBUTTAL, IF THAT'S THE CHAIRMAN'S DESIRE, BUT
22:48:29 PERHAPS IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT IS STILL HERE AND
22:48:32 WANTS TO CONFIRM OR DENY OR WHATEVER.
22:48:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WOLF.
22:48:41 >> THE ASSOCIATION IS 100% EQUIVOCALLY AGAINST THE
22:48:45 APPROVAL OF THIS PARKING LOT WITH ANY TYPE OF WAIVERS.
22:48:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:48:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARITY, MR. GRANDOFF, ARE
22:48:54 YOU STILL OFFERING THE MODIFIED SITE PLAN EVEN THOUGH THE
22:48:59 NEIGHBORHOOD STILL DOESN'T WANT IT?
22:49:03 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: YES.
22:49:04 I PROFFERED IT TO YOU THIS EVENING AND REQUEST YOUR
22:49:06 APPROVAL THIS EVENING AS MODIFIED.
22:49:08 AND WE WOULD BRING THAT TO YOU ON A SECOND READING.
22:49:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:49:14 CAN I GET A MOTION?
22:49:15 IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, A MOTION TO CLOSE?
22:49:19 THERE'S A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
22:49:21 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
22:49:25 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
22:49:31 WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO READ THE ORDINANCE?
22:49:34 WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES?
22:49:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO DENY SU-2-20-01 DUE
22:49:47 TO THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET THE BURDEN OF
22:49:50 PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
22:49:53 OFF-STREET COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AS CONDITIONED AND
22:49:56 SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE
22:49:58 PLAN AND CITY CODE AND THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO MEET
22:50:01 THE BURDEN OF PROOF WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUESTED
22:50:05 WAIVERS, LACK COMPETENCE OR ACCEPTANCE OF LAND USE
22:50:10 POLICIES, GENERAL STANDARDS 27-129, SPECIAL USE CRITERIA,
22:50:16 27-132.
22:50:18 THEREFORE, ORDINANCE BEING -- DENY AN ORDINANCE BEING
22:50:23 PRESENTED AT 3619 WEST ROLAND STREET.
22:50:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
22:50:33 CITRO. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
22:50:38 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND FROM
22:50:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
22:50:42 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION?
22:50:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
22:50:47 I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING.
22:50:49 AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE WILL AGREE THAT ONE OF THE
22:50:53 HARDEST THINGS ABOUT SITTING UP HERE IS -- I HAVE KNOWN
22:51:03 MR. aND MRS. GAINES FOR 25 YEARS.
22:51:08 MARK AND I USED TO PLAY GAMES 20 YEARS.
22:51:12 HE'S A GOOD MAN.
22:51:13 I THINK HE OPERATES A GOOD PROPERTY THERE.
22:51:19 BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY, I THINK
22:51:22 IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE.
22:51:24 RIGHT NOW, THE CARS PARK ALONG THAT OTHER SIDE STREET,
22:51:31 AND THEY HAVE FOR MANY YEARS.
22:51:32 MARK ANTICIPATES THAT WHEN THAT'S NO LONGER THERE, THAT
22:51:39 HIS TENANT IS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
22:51:41 BUT TO ME THAT'S NOT THERE YET.
22:51:45 SO I THINK IT'S PREMATURE.
22:51:47 MAYBE SOME DAY WHEN THE REST OF THAT PROPERTY GETS
22:51:50 DEVELOPED AND THERE'S NOWHERE INFORM THEM TO PARK AND
22:51:52 THEY START PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN MAYBE THIS
22:51:55 WILL BE RAPE AND POSSIBLY AVAILABLE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, IF
22:52:01 IT'S GOING TO PASS OR NOT AT THIS POINT.
22:52:03 BUT ANYWAY, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE.
22:52:06 I ALSO HOPE THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T REGRET, BECAUSE IF
22:52:10 THAT OTHER PARKING LOT GOES AWAY AND THEN THEY START
22:52:14 PARKING UP AND DOWN YOUR STREET, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A LOT
22:52:17 ABOUT THOSE SITUATIONS AS WELL.
22:52:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:52:21 WE HAVE THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECOND FROM
22:52:23 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
22:52:24 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
22:52:25 AND THIS IS A MOTION TO DENY, MR. CARLSON, ITEM NUMBER 4.
22:52:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:52:32 ANY OPPOSED?
22:52:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
22:52:35 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXTRA TIME THIS
22:52:41 EVENING.
22:52:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:52:43 WE NOW GO TO NUMBER 6.
22:52:53 WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT FOR EVERYBODY TO CLEAR OUT AND THEN
22:52:57 HAVE THE NEXT BATCH.
22:52:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MR. CHAIRMAN, WE APPRECIATE
22:53:00 EVERYBODY'S ATTEMPT TO COMPROMISE INCLUDING MR. GRANDOFF.
22:53:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NINE MORE ITEMS.
22:54:18 THAT'S EVERYBODY FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA?
22:54:27 THAT'S GREAT.
22:54:28 ITEM NUMBER 6.
22:54:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: AGAIN ITEM NUMBER 6 IS FOR APPLICATION
22:54:36 REZ 20-02 FOR WEST NORTH B STREET, TO REZONE THE PROPERTY
22:54:42 FROM IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
22:54:44 SINGLE-FAMILY.
22:54:45 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
22:54:52 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
22:54:53 THE NEXT ITEM IS REZONING 20-02.
22:54:58 IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRO TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
22:55:03 MORE SPECIFICALLY THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
22:55:05 THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED THREE BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH.
22:55:11 THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
22:55:19 ONTO THE AERIAL.
22:55:20 YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE.
22:55:22 THIS IS OREGON.
22:55:24 THIS IS KENNEDY TO THE SOUTH.
22:55:26 NORTH B.
22:55:26 YOU CAN SEE THE AREA HAS A MIXTURE OF ALL DIFFERENT TYPE
22:55:30 USES, COMMERCIAL, THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART HERE.
22:55:34 THERE IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY
22:55:38 ALL WITHIN THAT SURROUNDING AREA.
22:55:41 ONTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
22:55:43 IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
22:55:46 PROPERTIES LOCATED TO THE EAST IN THIS LIGHT BLUE ALL
22:55:51 HAVE THAT GENERAL MIXED USE 24.
22:55:53 THAT'S THAT CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL AND
22:55:56 COMMERCIAL.
22:55:56 THE BROWN IS THE RESIDENTIAL 20.
22:55:59 THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST.
22:56:01 TO THE NORTHWEST IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
22:56:06 THE GENERAL -- AS STATED GENERAL MIXED USE CATEGORY DOES
22:56:10 ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF USES.
22:56:13 THIS PORTION OF WEST NORTH B STREET HAS BECOME MORE
22:56:16 RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER DUE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF
22:56:18 ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES.
22:56:22 THERE ARE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH
22:56:24 AND EAST OF THE SITE.
22:56:25 PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 ZONING WOULD ALLOW
22:56:28 FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
22:56:30 AND THE PROPOSED RS-50 IS SIMILAR IN FORM, HEIGHT AND
22:56:34 SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES FOUND ALONG
22:56:37 THIS PORTION OF WEST NORTH B STREET.
22:56:39 IN CONCLUSION, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THE
22:56:43 REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE
22:56:45 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:56:48 THANK YOU.
22:56:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:56:49 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN. THIS IS A
22:56:55 EUCLIDEAN REZONING DESIGN.
22:56:57 THEREFORE NO WAIVERS ARE PERMITTED.
22:56:58 APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 1505 NORTH B
22:57:05 STREET FROM IG TO RS-50, WITH ALL APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
22:57:10 OF THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
22:57:12 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONTAINS APPROXIMATELY 5,227 SQUARE
22:57:16 FEET OR 1.2 ACRES WITH A LOT CONFIGURATION OF 50 FEET
22:57:20 WIDTH IN THE -- WIDTH AND 108 FEET IN DEPTH.
22:57:25 THE RS-50 STANDARD OF EACH LOT IS THE MINIMUM OF 50 FEET
22:57:30 WITH A MINIMUM AREA OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
22:57:33 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAD A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
22:57:36 DWELLING STRUCTURE THAT WAS DEMOLISHED IN DECEMBER OF 20
22:57:40 IS IT.
22:57:40 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST B
22:57:43 STREET AND THERE'S THREE LOTS WEST OF -- I'M SORRY, AND
22:57:46 THREE LOTS LEFT OF THE INTERSECTION AT WEST NORTH B
22:57:50 STREET AND ORGAN AVENUE.
22:57:52 IT IS SURROUNDED BY A DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TO
22:57:55 THE NORTH AND RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
22:57:58 IN THE SOUTH, THE IG ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL, A
22:58:01 COMMERCIAL USE TO THE EAST AND IG ZONING DISTRICT, AND A
22:58:04 DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE WEST IN THE RS-50
22:58:07 ZONING DISTRICT.
22:58:09 THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL APPLICABLE CITY OF
22:58:11 TAMPA DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT TIME OF PERMITTING.
22:58:14 THE METAL WORKS BUILDING LOCATED AT 302 NORTH WILLOW
22:58:18 AVENUE IS AN HISTORIC LANDMARK THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE
22:58:21 STAFF REPORT.
22:58:22 THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS
22:58:27 APPLICATION AND FINDS IT CONSISTENT.
22:58:28 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME VISUALS.
22:58:36 THE AERIAL MAP HERE.
22:58:37 AS YOU CAN SEE IN READ THE PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED AND
22:58:40 YOU CAN SEE THE RS-50 THAT SURROUND MOST OF IT AND THE PD
22:58:44 IS FOR MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL.
22:58:47 THEN I WILL GO INTO SOME PHOTOS.
22:58:56 1505 WEST NORTH B STREET WHICH IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
22:59:00 1507 NEXT DOOR.
22:59:01 1509.
22:59:02 1513.
22:59:04 1524.
22:59:05 THE PD TOWARDS THE WEST.
22:59:07 1528 SOUTH.
22:59:09 THE WEST INTERSECTION GOING ACROSS THE STREET.
22:59:12 1522.
22:59:15 1518.
22:59:17 1516.
22:59:19 1510.
22:59:21 1508.
22:59:22 1506.
22:59:24 1502.
22:59:27 302 NORTH OREGON IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE EAST.
22:59:32 THEN 1503.
22:59:34 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
22:59:36 SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
22:59:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
22:59:40 NO?
22:59:41 WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO APPROACH THE LECTERN?
22:59:50 >> KEVIN ROBLES. 2107 CHESTNUT FOREST DRIVE.
22:59:59 HE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF EXPLAINING, PRETTY
23:00:01 STRAIGHTFORWARD.
23:00:10 ONE SMALL NOTE.
23:00:11 THIS IS ACTUALLY WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
23:00:13 SO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, SETBACKS ARE ACTUALLY INCORRECT.
23:00:20 [RUSTLING PAPERS]
23:00:21 SETBACK WOULD COME UNDER THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
23:00:25 OF WHICH THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE SHOWN ARE ACTUALLY IN THE
23:00:28 WEST TAMPA OVERLAY AS WELL AND WOULD REQUIRE 15 IN THE
23:00:35 REAR, 5-FOOT SETBACKS.
23:00:41 UNDER THE OVERLAY.
23:00:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:00:42 ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
23:00:44 THANK YOU.
23:00:44 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
23:00:47 THIS ITEM?
23:00:50 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
23:00:52 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
23:00:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
23:00:55 DINGFELDER.
23:00:56 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
23:00:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:00:58 ALL RIGHT.
23:00:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, NUMBER 6, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE
23:01:03 IT.
23:01:03 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE REZ 20-02.
23:01:08 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
23:01:10 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
23:01:12 GENERAL VICINITY OF 1505 WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE CITY
23:01:15 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
23:01:17 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG
23:01:20 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY,
23:01:24 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
23:01:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
23:01:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:01:29 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
23:01:31 ANY OPPOSED?
23:01:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
23:01:36 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16 AT
23:01:38 9:30 A.M.
23:01:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:01:41 ITEM NUMBER 7.
23:01:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:01:48 COORDINATION, REZ 20-04.
23:01:50 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3801 NORTH 15th
23:01:54 STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
23:01:56 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
23:02:06 THE NEXT CASE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
23:02:10 PLANNING DISTRICT.
23:02:12 IT IS ALSO WITHIN THE COLLEGE HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:02:16 IT DOES FALL WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
23:02:19 THERE ARE SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTION RELATING TO URBAN
23:02:22 VILLAGES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:02:25 TRANSIT SERVICE ALONG THIS PORTION OF NORTH 15th
23:02:28 STREET IS PROVIDED BY HART ROUTE 9 CONNECTING THE SUBJECT
23:02:31 SITE TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE UNIVERSITY AREA TRANSIT
23:02:34 CENTER, AND THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION
23:02:37 ZONE.
23:02:39 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
23:02:41 YOU CAN SEE THIS PORTION.
23:02:43 THIS IS NORTH 15th STREET RIGHT HERE TO THE NORTH UP
23:02:47 HERE IS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
23:02:52 AND THEN TO THE EAST YOU CAN SEE YOUNG MIDDLE MAGNET
23:02:57 SCHOOL AND LOCKHART ELEMENTARY, THE CAMPUS.
23:03:01 THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY
23:03:04 DETACHED IN CHARACTER.
23:03:05 THERE ARE SOME COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF
23:03:11 THE USE.
23:03:14 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
23:03:17 THE SUBJECT SITE IS HARD TO SEE BUT IT IS THAT COMMUNITY
23:03:20 MIXED USE 35.
23:03:22 THAT WAS A RECENT PLAN AMENDMENT TO THAT CATEGORY.
23:03:26 IT WAS PLAN AMENDMENT 18-07.
23:03:31 AMENDED IT TO THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
23:03:33 THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING IN THE THAT TAN COLLAR ARE THE
23:03:38 RESIDENTIAL 10.
23:03:39 AND THEN UP ALONG EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD
23:03:42 IN THE RED, YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
23:03:45 AND THAT CAN ALSO BE FOUND SOUTH ALONG 15th STREET.
23:03:49 AND THEN THE SCHOOL CAMPUSES ARE BLUE, REPRESENTED AS
23:03:57 PUBLIC.
23:03:58 THE SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
23:04:05 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES ENCOURAGE A MIXED PLACEMENT
23:04:09 OF USES WITHIN THE CITY URBAN VILLAGES. THIS ZONING, IF
23:04:13 APPROVED, WILL ALLOW FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF USES TO BE
23:04:16 DEVELOPED UNDER THE CG ZONING DISTRICT AND WILL FURTHER
23:04:19 THIS POLICY DIRECTION WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:04:21 OVERALL, THE PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
23:04:24 UNDERLYING COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE
23:04:27 DESIGNATION AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS THE
23:04:30 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REZONING CONSISTENT
23:04:32 WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:04:36 THANK YOU.
23:04:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:04:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU, DAVID.
23:04:43 MARY SAMANIEGO FOR THE RECORD.
23:04:45 AGAIN, THIS IS REZ 20-04 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3801
23:04:51 NORTH 15th STREET.
23:04:53 PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL OFFICE SO IT'S
23:04:56 CURRENTLY A NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
23:04:58 THE REQUEST IS FOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING.
23:05:01 AS DAVID STATED, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THE PROPERTY
23:05:05 OWNER WAS GRANTED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT UP TO
23:05:08 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 LAND USE CATEGORY.
23:05:13 SO CONSIDERATION UP TO THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING
23:05:16 DISTRICT FOR WHICH THEY ARE ASKING FOR TONIGHT.
23:05:18 THIS IS EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT SO NO CONDITIONS OR
23:05:21 WAIVERS ARE BEING REQUESTED.
23:05:23 THEY MUST MEET STANDARD IN ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TO
23:05:28 OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY MUST COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS
23:05:30 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, INCLUDING THE
23:05:34 ZONING CODE.
23:05:35 I PROVIDED FOR YOU IN YOUR STAFF REPORT A LIST OF ALL THE
23:05:39 PERMITS CONSIDERED, ENTITLED USES FOR THE COMMERCIAL
23:05:42 GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND SAYING THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT
23:05:46 REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH
23:05:48 THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
23:05:52 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?
23:05:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY BOARD
23:05:56 MEMBERS?
23:05:58 THANK YOU.
23:05:59 APPLICANT.
23:05:59 >> MY NAME IS WILBERT MALPHUS, 17705 --
23:06:18 >> SPELL YOUR NAME, PLEASE, SIR.
23:06:20 >> MY NAME IS WILBERT MALPHUS.
23:06:28 AND I RESIDE AT 1770 CRYSTAL COVE LANE.
23:06:37 I THINK ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO, I THOUGHT I HAD MY ZONING
23:06:45 COMPLETED, AND WHEN I WAS HERE, AND ABOUT A YEAR LATER
23:06:49 AFTER I HAD DONE IT, I GOT A MEMO FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT
23:06:54 SAYING I WAS STILL IN VIOLATION.
23:06:56 SO I CHECKED WITH STAFF AND THEY SAID, OH, YOU DIDN'T GET
23:07:02 THE OTHER PART.
23:07:03 SO TONIGHT I AM HOPING I CAN CONCLUDE THIS TONIGHT AND
23:07:06 GET THE ZONING DONE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
23:07:09 THE LOCATION HAS SIX PEOPLE EMPLOYED AND I WOULD LIKE TO
23:07:14 KEEP THEM THERE AND NOT CLOSE DOWN THE SHOP.
23:07:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:07:18 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
23:07:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:07:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY.
23:07:25 MR. MALPHUS, I MISSED WHAT TYPE OF EMPLOYMENT.
23:07:27 >> IT'S A DETAIL SHOP.
23:07:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
23:07:33 THANK YOU: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
23:07:36 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
23:07:37 NO?
23:07:40 WE HAVE ONE PERSON.
23:07:57 IF YOU COULD USE THE OTHER LECTERN.
23:07:59 GO AHEAD, SIR.
23:08:00 THE STATE YOUR NAME.
23:08:01 >> MY NAME IS DR. CLIETT.
23:08:09 YES, ON BEHALF OF THE DETAIL SHOP, HE'S DONE A VERY GOOD
23:08:16 JOB, ABOUT THREE YEARS, AND GOT A LOT OF GOOD CUSTOMERS.
23:08:21 AND HE'S GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY.
23:08:25 VERY GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY.
23:08:31 HE'S AN AWESOME YOUNG MAN, AND I APPRECIATE IF YOU ALL
23:08:35 JUST KEEP HIM THERE.
23:08:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:08:42 ANYBODY ELSE?
23:08:44 YES, SIR?
23:08:50 NO, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
23:08:51 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
23:08:56 MY NAME IS MARVIN KNIGHT K-N-I-G-H-T.
23:09:03 I AM THE -- A NEIGHBOR OF MINE, A FISH COMPANY, ALL GET
23:09:11 ALONG WELL, AND KEEPING IT UP AND EVERYTHING, AND
23:09:15 POSITIVE.
23:09:18 DOWN HERE IN SUPPORT OF IT, OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO,
23:09:22 SINCE THEN POSITIVE, AND WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO
23:09:27 SUPPORT IT.
23:09:28 THANK YOU.
23:09:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:09:29 ANYBODY ELSE?
23:09:30 ALL RIGHT.
23:09:31 APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH TO SAY AT
23:09:33 THIS TIME OR NO?
23:09:35 NO?
23:09:35 ALL RIGHT.
23:09:36 ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
23:09:39 NO?
23:09:39 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
23:09:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
23:09:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH
23:09:45 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
23:09:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:09:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-04, AN ORDINANCE
23:09:55 BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
23:09:57 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
23:09:59 3801 NORTH 15th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
23:10:03 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
23:10:06 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RO RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO CG
23:10:10 COMMERCIAL GENERAL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
23:10:14 THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND IS
23:10:16 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:10:18 >> SECOND.
23:10:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
23:10:21 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:10:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:10:23 ANY OPPOSED?
23:10:24 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
23:10:26 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16th
23:10:29 AT 9:30 A.M.
23:10:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:10:32 ITEM NUMBER 8.
23:10:33 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN. REZ 20-09 FOR 3112
23:10:44 WEST SAN JOSE STREET. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO
23:10:46 REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60 AND RM-16 TO RS-50.
23:10:54 RS-60 AND RM-16 TO RS-50.
23:10:57 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
23:10:59 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
23:11:01 WE HAVE MOVED DOWN TO THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
23:11:04 FOR THIS NEXT CASE.
23:11:07 IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE PALMA CEIA NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:11:11 THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 4,000 FEET TO THE
23:11:14 WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
23:11:17 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION
23:11:21 ZONE.
23:11:22 AND THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS PALMA
23:11:25 CEIA PARK.
23:11:31 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
23:11:32 HERE IS SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE TO THE EAST.
23:11:35 THIS IS WEST SAN JOSE.
23:11:37 YOU CAN SEE THIS PORTION OF MacDILL DOES HAVE SOME
23:11:40 COMMERCIAL USES.
23:11:41 AND THEN OFF OF THOSE COMMERCIAL USES, IT IMMEDIATELY
23:11:47 GOES INTO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT.
23:11:53 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
23:11:55 THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THE PROPERTIES IN THAT TAN
23:11:57 SURROUNDING IT ARE THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE
23:12:00 CATEGORIES.
23:12:02 YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OUT ALONG
23:12:05 MacDILL.
23:12:06 THE PINK IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ALLOWING
23:12:09 CONSIDERATION UP TO CG ZONING AND THE RED IS COMMUNITY 35
23:12:16 OF CI USES AND THEN THE BROWN SCATTERED THROUGHOUT IS THE
23:12:20 RESIDENTIAL 20.
23:12:24 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM THE
23:12:27 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60 TO THE RESIDENTIAL
23:12:30 MULTIFAMILY 16 -- OH, SORRY, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
23:12:36 FAMILY 16 TO THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 ZONING
23:12:39 DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO
23:12:42 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL USES.
23:12:44 THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THE COMPATIBLE IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT
23:12:47 WITHIN AN AREA THAT IS PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
23:12:50 UP TO TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON THE AREA'S
23:12:56 RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
23:13:00 RESIDENTIALLY DEVELOPED PARCELS FRONTING ALONG WEST SAN
23:13:03 JOSE STREET BETWEEN SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE AND SOUTH
23:13:06 ESPERANZA AVENUE EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE HAVE AN
23:13:11 EXISTING DENSITY OF 8.22 UNITS PER ACRE.
23:13:15 THE SUBJECT SITE WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS BEING
23:13:18 PROPOSED WOULD BE DEVELOPED AT A DENSITY OF 8.69 UNITS
23:13:22 PER ACRE.
23:13:23 THE PROPOSED DENSITY WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
23:13:26 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10
23:13:29 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
23:13:31 OVERALL THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD BE DEVELOPED WITH A
23:13:34 SIMILAR FORM, HEIGHT, SCALE AND LOCK PATTERN OF THE
23:13:38 SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
23:13:40 FURTHER, THE REZONING SUPPORTS THE POLICY DIRECTION OF
23:13:42 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO THE SOUTH TAMPA
23:13:45 PLANNING DISTRICT BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL IN-FILL HOUSING
23:13:48 ON AN UNDERUTILIZED PARCEL WHICH IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED
23:13:52 AT 4.34 UNITS PER ACRE AND IS IN PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL
23:13:56 SERVICES.
23:13:57 THIS REZONING WOULD NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OR THE
23:14:00 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS PORTION OF THE PALMA CEIA
23:14:03 NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:14:04 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
23:14:07 STAFF DOES FIND THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE
23:14:11 PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:14:14 THANK YOU.
23:14:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:14:15 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN.
23:14:28 THIS IS THE EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.
23:14:31 THEREFORE NO WAIVERS ARE PERMITTED.
23:14:32 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 3112
23:14:36 WEST SAN JOSE STREET FROM RS-60 AND RM-16 TO RS-50.
23:14:41 IT CURRENTLY INCLUDES TWO PRIVATE LOTS, 5 AND 6 OF BECAME
23:14:46 VIEW HOMES SUBDIVISION.
23:14:47 LOTS 5 AND 6 ARE EACH 50 BY 100.
23:14:50 TOTAL LOT AREA, 5,000 SQUARE FEET EACH FOR A TOTAL SIDE
23:14:54 AREA OF APPROXIMATELY 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
23:14:56 THE PROPERTY HAD A DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT
23:14:59 WAS RECENTLY DEMOLISHED.
23:15:03 THE AERIAL MAP ON THE SCREEN THERE, I AM GOING TO GO INTO
23:15:06 THE LOCATION, IS LOCATED FOUR LOTS TO THE WEST OF SOUTH
23:15:08 MACDILL AVENUE AND NORTH SAN JOSE STREET INTERSECTION,
23:15:12 SURROUNDED BY A DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE
23:15:14 NORTH AND RS-60 AND RM-16 ZONING DISTRICT, DETACHED
23:15:20 SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE SOUTH AND RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT,
23:15:23 DETACHED TO THE EAST AND N AN RO-1 ZONING DISTRICT AND
23:15:28 DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE WEST.
23:15:31 THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL CITY OF TAMPA
23:15:33 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
23:15:39 WHAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN THERE IS THE CONFORMING MAP.
23:15:41 THE BAY VIEW HOMES SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN
23:15:45 1922 WITH ALL LOTS MEASURING 50 FEET IN WIDTH AND VIEW
23:15:49 FEET IN WHICH HAD EXCEPT FOR ONE LOT MEASURING 250 FEET
23:15:52 IN DEPTH.
23:15:53 THE BAY VIEW HOMES SUBDIVISION IS SEVEN BLOCKS.
23:15:58 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ON LOT 30 OF LOTS 5 AND 6.
23:16:01 THE SUBJECT APPLICATION SEEKS TO REESTABLISH THE ORIGINAL
23:16:04 PLATTED LOTS TO CREATE TWO BUILDABLE LOTS.
23:16:07 THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES PORTIONS OF THE BAY
23:16:10 VIEW HOMES SUBDIVISION, AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDED 102
23:16:14 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 23 OR 22 PERCENT OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN
23:16:18 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND 79 OR
23:16:22 77% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH MUCH 59.99 FEET OR
23:16:26 LESS.
23:16:27 THOSE ARE TYPICALLY HISTORICALLY PLATTED LOTS.
23:16:29 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THE
23:16:32 SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 15 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, FOUR OR 20%
23:16:36 OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET
23:16:39 OR GREATER AND 11 OR 73% OF THEM HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH
23:16:43 A WIDTH MUCH 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
23:16:45 AGAIN, IT'S HISTORICALLY PLATTED LOT.
23:16:48 THE 3100 BLOCK OF WEST SAN JOSE STREET ON BOTH SIDE OF
23:16:52 THE STREET CONTAINS 12 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 6 OR 50% OF
23:16:56 THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
23:16:59 GREATER OR 50% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99
23:17:04 FEET OR LESS.
23:17:06 THE BLOCK BASE ITSELF CONTAINS 7 ZONING LOTS.
23:17:10 ONE OR 14% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
23:17:13 OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND 6 OR 85% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED
23:17:17 WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
23:17:20 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REQUEST FOR THE REZONING
23:17:22 CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
23:17:27 APARTMENTS LOCATED AT 3013 AND 3015 WEST SAN CARLOS
23:17:33 STREET ARE HISTORICAL AND THE BUFFER MAP, AND I WILL SHOW
23:17:37 YOU SOME PICTURES AFTER I READ THIS.
23:17:40 THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
23:17:42 FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
23:17:44 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
23:17:45 PLEASE REFERENCE THE FINDINGS BY PLANNING DESIGN AND
23:17:48 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION RELATED TO THE EXISTING
23:17:50 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
23:18:00 WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE SUBJECT LOT.
23:18:02 AND THEN WORK OUR WAY COUNTERCLOCKWISE.
23:18:07 3108.
23:18:08 3106.
23:18:10 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY 2501 SITE MacDILL.
23:18:14 2409 COMMERCIAL.
23:18:16 3109 SAN JOSE.
23:18:19 3111 SAN JOSE.
23:18:21 3117 SAN JOSE.
23:18:24 3121.
23:18:26 3122.
23:18:27 3120.
23:18:29 3118.
23:18:31 3116.
23:18:33 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
23:18:35 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
23:18:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
23:18:40 NO?
23:18:41 PETITIONER?
23:18:41 >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITION.
23:18:49 THIS IS A UNIQUE SITE IN THAT ONE OF THE LOTS IS ALREADY
23:18:53 ZONED RM-16.
23:18:54 THE OTHER LOT IS ZONED RS-60.
23:18:58 AND UNDERSTOOD SOME PREVIOUS CONDITIONS UNDER THE CODE,
23:19:01 YOU COULD HAVE BLENDED THOSE.
23:19:02 HOWEVER, THAT PROVISION DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.
23:19:05 SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, YOU WILL SEE THAT -- IS
23:19:21 A S THAT SHOWING CORRECTLY?
23:19:22 YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS PORTION HERE, IT WAS ORIGINALLY
23:19:26 PLATTED AT AS TWO LOTS, RM-16.
23:19:29 THIS ONE IS ZONED RS-60.
23:19:32 ADJACENT TO IT IS RO-1.
23:19:35 ON THE EAST SIDE.
23:19:36 AND THEN RS-60 ON THE OTHER SIDE.
23:19:41 THERE IS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES
23:19:46 ALL AROUND THERE.
23:19:48 AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
23:19:51 CODE IN TERMS OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
23:19:55 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW OF THAT.
23:19:59 WE ARE SEEKING TO BUILD TWO HOUSES, RESTORE IT BACK TO
23:20:03 THE ORIGINAL PLAT OF THE SUBDIVISION, AND THE 50-FOOT
23:20:09 LOTS.
23:20:09 AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT INSTEAD OF BLENDING THEM WE
23:20:13 ARE GOING TO TAKE THE RM-16 AND CHANGE TO THE RS-50.
23:20:17 AND THEN TAKE THE RS-60 LOT AND CHANGE IT TO AN RS-50.
23:20:23 AS THE STAFF POINTED OUT, AN ANALYSIS OF THE BLOCK FACE
23:20:43 AND THE SUBDIVISION, WE ARE AT 77% HAVE LESS THAN 60 FEET
23:20:48 OF WIDTH.
23:20:49 AND THEN ON THE BLOCK FACE ITSELF, THERE'S 85% OF
23:20:55 DEVELOPMENT WITH A WIDTH OF LESS THAN 60 FEET.
23:20:58 WE BELIEVE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
23:21:01 WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
23:21:03 AND THAT THE STAFF HAS FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT.
23:21:06 I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
23:21:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
23:21:10 NO?
23:21:11 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
23:21:13 THIS ITEM?
23:21:14 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 8.
23:21:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:21:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
23:21:23 I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW MR.
23:21:28 MICHELINI, YOU RECALL WHEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS UNDER
23:21:31 SORT OF THE BARRAGE FROM A PARTICULAR DEVELOPER WHO WOULD
23:21:35 TAKE THIS TYPE OF ZONING AND BUILD BIG MASSIVE QUADS,
23:21:44 TRIPLEXES AN QUADS AND REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SORT OF
23:21:47 AN ANOMALY OF THE ZONING THAT HAD BEEN LEFT THERE FROM A
23:21:52 LONG TIME AGO.
23:21:53 SO WITH THAT SAID, I AM REALLY PLEASED THAT YOUR CLIENT
23:21:59 HAS TAKEN THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK THE OTHER DIRECTION
23:22:02 AND TURN IT INTO THE SINGLE-FAMILY -- TURN IT BACK INTO
23:22:06 THE SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ON RS-50 THAT IT
23:22:10 ORIGINALLY WAS.
23:22:12 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
23:22:13 THERE WAS A LOT OF PRESSURE FOR THOSE QUADS AND TRIPLEXES
23:22:16 BECAUSE OF THAT ZONING THAT EXISTED FOR THE RS 16.
23:22:20 SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LEAN FAVORABLE TO
23:22:24 TAG TAKING IT BACK TO AN RS-50.
23:22:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW THIS COUNCILMAN -- I
23:22:29 APPRECIATE IT.
23:22:30 THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS MY CHILDHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:22:32 BUT NICE TO SEE IT GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL RS-50.
23:22:37 THANK YOU.
23:22:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
23:22:39 ANYBODY ELSE?
23:22:40 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC?
23:22:41 NO?
23:22:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
23:22:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL
23:22:45 IN FAVOR?
23:22:46 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE NUMBER 8.
23:22:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FILE REZ 20-09.
23:22:53 MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
23:22:57 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
23:22:59 3112 WEST SAN JOSE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
23:23:02 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
23:23:05 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
23:23:09 AND RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
23:23:14 SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND THE
23:23:17 APPLICANT HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
23:23:19 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS
23:23:22 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODES
23:23:27 ADOPT THE FINDING OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION IN
23:23:30 THE REPORT.
23:23:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL
23:23:37 THOSE IN FAVOR?
23:23:38 ANY OPPOSED?
23:23:38 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
23:23:43 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16 AT
23:23:45 9:30 A.M.
23:23:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 9.
23:23:49 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:23:52 COORDINATION.
23:23:53 ITEM NUMBER 9 IS REZ 20-13, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
23:23:57 2901, 2905, AND 2907 NORTH 21st STREET REZONING FROM
23:24:03 PD TO RS-50.
23:24:04 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
23:24:12 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
23:24:13 WE REMAIN IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
23:24:17 NEXT CASE.
23:24:18 MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH ALSO FALLS
23:24:25 WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
23:24:29 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
23:24:32 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE
23:24:37 AND CUSCADEN PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATION FACILITY.
23:24:42 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
23:24:45 IT'S 21 STREET RUNNING NORTH-SOUTH AND 18th AVENUE ON
23:24:51 THE SOUTH, AND THEN TWO BLOCKS SOUTH IS COLUMBUS.
23:24:55 YOU CAN SEE THE AREA HAS A MIXTURE OF SINGLE-FAMILY
23:24:59 DETACHED, SOME DUPLEXES, AND VACANT LOTS.
23:25:06 ONTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
23:25:08 THIS PORTION OF NORTH 21st STREET IS ALL WITHIN THAT
23:25:13 RESIDENTIAL 20.
23:25:15 THAT'S THAT BROWN COLOR.
23:25:17 THE MORE INTENSIVE CATEGORY IS LOCATED ALONG NORTH 22ND
23:25:23 STREET.
23:25:23 THAT'S THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
23:25:28 THAT'S MORE OF THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR FOR EAST TAMPA.
23:25:33 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM A PLANNED
23:25:37 DEVELOPMENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 ZONING
23:25:41 DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MAXIMUM OF TWO
23:25:44 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS BASED ON THAT
23:25:47 RS-50 MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR
23:25:51 COMPATIBLE IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN AN AREA THAT IS
23:25:53 PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF UP TO 20 DWELLING
23:25:56 UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON THAT RESIDENTIAL 20 LAND USE
23:26:01 CATEGORY.
23:26:02 RESIDENTIALLY DEVELOPED PARCELS ADJACENT TO NORTH
23:26:05 21st STREET BETWEEN EAST 17th AVENUE AND EAST
23:26:09 20th AVENUE EXCLUDING VACANT LOTS IN THE SUBJECT SITE
23:26:12 AND CONSISTING OF A TOTAL OF 11 PARCELS HAVE AN EXISTING
23:26:16 AVERAGE DENSITY OF 10.3 UNITS PER ACRE.
23:26:19 THE SUBJECT SITE WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS BEING
23:26:22 PROPOSED WOULD BE -- WOULD HAVE A DENSITY OF 8 UNITS PER
23:26:29 ACRE.
23:26:31 OVERALL THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD BE DEVELOPED FOR THE W A
23:26:33 SIMILAR FORM, HEIGHT, SCALE AND LOCK PATTERN OF THE
23:26:36 SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
23:26:39 SO, THEREFORE, BASED ON THAT PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
23:26:41 DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING BE FOUND
23:26:44 CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
23:26:46 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:26:47 THANK YOU.
23:26:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:26:53 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:26:56 COORDINATION.
23:26:56 AGAIN, THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED AT 2101 AND 29 --
23:27:01 THROUGH 2907 NORTH 21st STREET.
23:27:04 THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
23:27:07 IT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2007.
23:27:10 IT WAS FILE NUMBER Z-7-33, THAT ENVISIONED DEVELOPMENT OF
23:27:18 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES.
23:27:23 THAT PROJECT WAS NEVER DEVELOPED AND SO THIS PROPERTY
23:27:26 REMAINED VACANT FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 13 YEARS.
23:27:30 THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE
23:27:33 THE PROPERTY TO RS-50.
23:27:36 I WILL SHOW YOU A ZONING MAP THAT SHOWS THAT THIS IS
23:27:39 DIRECTLY ABUTTING SIMILARLY REZONED RS-50 PROPERTIES.
23:27:47 SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED WITH EXISTING PD.
23:27:50 AND THEN IF YOU PLEASE FOLLOW THIS YELLOW LINE, THIS IS
23:27:53 ALL RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
23:27:57 SO THE APPLICANT HAS ELECTED TO GO BACK BECAUSE OF THE
23:28:01 UNDEVELOPED OR NEVER-DEVELOPED AND IN FACT DEFUNCT OLD PD
23:28:06 ON THE PROPERTY TO GET UNDER FROM THAT CONTROL DISTRICT
23:28:10 TO GO BACK TO AN RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
23:28:13 SAYING THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS FOUND
23:28:16 THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES
23:28:19 AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY
23:28:21 QUESTIONS.
23:28:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
23:28:25 ALL RIGHT.
23:28:25 PETITIONER, APPLICANT?
23:28:32 >> GOOD EVENING MEMBERS.
23:28:37 MY NAME IS GABRIEL N-A-V-A-R-R-E-T-E, REPRESENTING THE
23:28:45 OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
23:28:47 SHE COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE OF THE COFFEES SITUATION.
23:28:50 THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE PD APPROVED BACK IN 2007.
23:28:56 IT WAS APPROVED FOR BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILT
23:29:01 THERE, WITH A NEW OPENER, JUST WANTS TO GO BACK ON THE
23:29:05 OLD.
23:29:05 I WANT TO MAKE THREE RESIDENCES BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE
23:29:10 LOTS ON THIS PROPERTY.
23:29:11 SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, TO GO BACK
23:29:14 TO THE RS-50 ZONING.
23:29:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS
23:29:20 GENTLEMAN?
23:29:21 NO?
23:29:21 SEEING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:29:22 IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
23:29:25 THIS ITEM?
23:29:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
23:29:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
23:29:31 MIRANDA WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
23:29:34 ALL RIGHT.
23:29:34 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
23:29:36 >>LUIS VIERA: MY PLEASURE.
23:29:38 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
23:29:41 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
23:29:43 GENERAL VICINITY OF 2901 THROUGH 2907 NORTH 21st
23:29:50 STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
23:29:52 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
23:29:55 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS
23:29:57 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY,
23:30:01 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
23:30:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
23:30:06 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:30:07 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
23:30:09 ANY OPPOSED?
23:30:09 >> THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
23:30:14 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON JULY 16, AT 9:30
23:30:18 A.M.
23:30:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS A POINT OF ORDER.
23:30:28 I AM WONDERING WHY OUR ESTEEMED CITY ATTORNEY WAS JOINING
23:30:31 US TONIGHT, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT SHE
23:30:34 WAS HERE TO ADDRESS THE MEMO THAT I GUESS MR. CITRO HAD
23:30:40 RAISED.
23:30:44 AND I AM WONDERING, WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF LEGAL STAFF HERE
23:30:52 THAT COULD PERHAPS GO HOME BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING
23:30:55 SO HARD INCLUDING MS. GRIMES.
23:30:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS SHE STILL HERE?
23:30:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHE WAS HERE A SECOND AGO.
23:31:03 DO YOU KNOW WHERE SHE WENT?
23:31:12 SHE STEPPED OUT FOR ONE SECOND.
23:31:14 IF I HAD KNOWN THAT, I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP THREE
23:31:16 HOURS AGO BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S WHY SHE WAS HERE.
23:31:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK PEOPLE COME TO CITY COUNCIL
23:31:23 MEETINGS JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO --
23:31:26 [ LAUGHTER ]
23:31:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I TALKED ABOUT IT TOO AND DIDN'T REALIZE
23:31:31 I COULD JUMP AHEAD.
23:31:32 BUT I MADE A MOTION LAST TIME THAT TURNED OUT THERE WAS
23:31:34 NO LEGAL COUNSEL HERE FROM THE CITY STAFF AND IT TURNS
23:31:39 OUT IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY CHARTER.
23:31:41 I THINK SHE SENT US A MEMO AN THAT.
23:31:43 SO MR. CITRO CAN ASK IT BE WITHDRAWN OR I CAN DO IT.
23:31:46 AS I WAS TALKING EARLIER, SHE WAS GOING TO --
23:31:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT YOUR PLEASURE -- I'M NOT TRYING
23:31:53 TO PUSH YOU IN ANY DIRECTION.
23:31:55 IS IT YOUR PLEASURE TO WITHDRAW THAT OTHER MOTION?
23:31:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
23:32:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY BUT YOU CAN'T
23:32:06 WITHDRAW THE MOTION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MADE IN THE PAST.
23:32:08 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND?
23:32:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION
23:32:14 FOR RECONSIDERATION.
23:32:15 AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION
23:32:20 IS PASSED, AND THE MOTION IS BACK ON THE TABLE, AND THEN
23:32:23 WE CAN DECIDE WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO DO.
23:32:25 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU TELL US HOW TO UNDO YOU THAT
23:32:32 MOTION THAT I MADE LAST TIME?
23:32:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, AND I WILL BE VERY
23:32:37 BRIEF ABOUT THIS.
23:32:39 I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP DURING NEW BUSINESS.
23:32:41 MR. CHAIR, I REQUESTED A LETTER TO BE SENT TO
23:32:46 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY STATE ATTORNEY ANDREW WARREN
23:32:48 CONCERNING THE DROPPING OF CHARGES OF MINOR MISDEMEANORS
23:32:52 IN RELATION TO THE PEACEFUL PROTESTS ON BROREIN STREET.
23:32:57 BECAUSE OF PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, I WAS GOING TO ASK
23:33:02 THAT WE DISCUSS THIS AT OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING NEXT
23:33:08 THURSDAY, JUNE 18th DURING THE MORNING SESSION.
23:33:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S A WORKSHOP.
23:33:15 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK YOU SAID WE COULD JUST WITHDRAW
23:33:18 IT TONIGHT, RIGHT?
23:33:20 >>GINA GRIMES: CITY ATTORNEY.
23:33:21 WHAT COULD BE DONE TONIGHT IS THE MOTION FOR
23:33:23 RECONSIDERATION COULD BE CONSIDERED TONIGHT IF YOU WAIVE
23:33:26 THE RULES, AND THEN ONCE THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION
23:33:31 IS ON THE FLOOR, YOU COULD ASK THAT THE MOTION -- YOU CAN
23:33:34 WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
23:33:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I AM ASKING FOR
23:33:39 RECONSIDERATION OF THAT MOTION THAT WAS MADE IN THE PAST.
23:33:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION WITH COUNCILMAN CITRO.
23:33:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
23:33:48 BUT I BELIEVE MRS. GRIMES SAID THE MOTION TO --
23:33:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIRST I ASK FOR A MOTION TO WAIVE THE
23:33:55 RULES.
23:33:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CITRO HAS A MOTION TO WAIVE THE
23:33:59 RULES.
23:34:00 SECOND BY MR. CARLSON.
23:34:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:34:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS IN
23:34:06 ORDER.
23:34:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW I ASK FOR A MOTION TO RECONSIDER
23:34:09 THAT MOTION, THAT MOTION THAT'S BEEN VOTED ON.
23:34:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
23:34:14 CITRO FOR RECONSIDERATION WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
23:34:17 CARLSON.
23:34:18 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:34:20 ALL RIGHT.
23:34:22 MS. GRIMES, THAT'S ALL YOU WERE HERE FOR TONIGHT?
23:34:26 >>GINA GRIMES: UH-HUH.
23:34:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, I WANT TO MAKE
23:34:29 SURE THAT THE MOTION IS CLEAR.
23:34:33 THERE WAS A MOTION MADE ON JUNE 4, 5:01 P.M., AND THAT
23:34:41 WAS A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, SECOND BY
23:34:44 COUNCILMAN VIERA, TO SEND A LETTER TO STATE ATTORNEY TO
23:34:49 ASK THAT MINOR MISDEMEANOR CHARGES BE DROPPED TO THE
23:34:53 PROTEST MARCH ON BROREIN STREET LAST WEEK, JUNE 4th,
23:34:57 WITH THE MOTION THEN CARRIED.
23:34:59 SO WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
23:35:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I'M ASKING THAT THE MOTION BE
23:35:09 DROPPED, ACTUALLY, THAT PERCEPTION, IF I MAY.
23:35:20 I AM NOTE AN ATTORNEY AT LAW.
23:35:22 SO I LOOKED UP MINOR MISDEMEANORS.
23:35:28 AND THERE IS ONE THAT STRUCK ME IN MINOR MISDEMEANORS,
23:35:34 AND THAT IS FOR STATUTE 806.13, A PERSON COMMITTEES AN
23:35:40 OFFENSE OF CRIMINAL MISCHIEF IF HE OR SHE WILLFULLY,
23:35:43 MALICIOUSLY, INJURIES OR DAMAGES BY ANY MEANS ANY REAL OR
23:35:48 PERSONAL PROPERTY BELONGING TO ANOTHER, INCLUDING BUT NOT
23:35:52 LIMITED TO DESTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTY.
23:35:59 I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT WE CAN ASK A
23:36:05 CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTED OFFICER NOT TO DO THEIR JOB.
23:36:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
23:36:15 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IN CASE ANYBODY IS WATCHING FOR THE
23:36:17 FIRST TIME, THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO
23:36:19 RECOMMENDED THIS, AND SO I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES WHAT DO
23:36:23 YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
23:36:24 NONE OF US HAD LEGAL COUNSEL LIKE WE DO TONIGHT.
23:36:28 SO I MADE A MOTION, NOT KNOWING THAT -- IS GINA STILL
23:36:33 HERE?
23:36:34 IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY THE CHARTER.
23:36:37 AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER WE THINK ABOUT IT NOW, CAN
23:36:41 I ASK HER JUST IN TEN SECONDS TELL US WHY IT'S NOT
23:36:45 ALLOWED BY THE CHARTER AND THEN TELL US WHAT MOTION WE
23:36:49 NEED TO UNDO IT?
23:36:50 AND I APOLOGIZE FOR PULLING IT UP.
23:36:52 SHOULD HAVE REALIZED WE NEEDED LEGAL COUNSEL.
23:36:55 >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S FINE.
23:36:56 AND I REALLY DIDN'T COME HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN'T
23:36:58 DO.
23:36:59 I CAME TO TELL YOU THAT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT
23:37:01 WITH REGARD TO THIS SUBJECT THAT WE COULD CRAFT SOME
23:37:04 LANGUAGE THAT WOULD HELP YOU DO SO.
23:37:08 BUT AGAIN, THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT, AND MOTION, THE WAY IT
23:37:12 WAS WORDED, GAVE ME CONCERN ABOUT A CERTAIN PROVISION IN
23:37:16 THE CHARTER THAT PROHIBITS THE COUNCIL FROM INTERFERING
23:37:21 WITH THE DISCHARGE OF THE DUTIES BY ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES
23:37:26 OF THE CITY.
23:37:27 AND SO RATHER THAN SAY -- RATHER THAN TELL YOU THAT YOU
23:37:31 CAN'T DO IT, I WOULD RATHER WORK WITH YOU TO SHOW YOU A
23:37:34 BETTER WAY TO DO IT.
23:37:35 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST UNDO IT RIGHT NOW AND
23:37:38 THEN --
23:37:40 >>GINA GRIMES: YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
23:37:42 >>BILL CARLSON: I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
23:37:49 MAKE THAT MOTION.
23:37:50 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO RESCIND THAT
23:37:52 MOTION OF JUNE 4th.
23:37:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
23:37:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
23:37:57 CARLSON AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES BEFORE CITRO.
23:38:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:38:03 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:38:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN.
23:38:08 I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY LEGAL ARGUMENT WITH ANY OF
23:38:11 OUR FINE CITY ATTORNEYS, OR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, AND
23:38:17 WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THE
23:38:19 CHARTER, AND WE COULD BE HERE FOR HOURS TALKING ABOUT IT.
23:38:25 BUT IN TALKING TO MS. GRIMES AND MR. SHELBY, MS. GRIMES
23:38:29 ACTUALLY GAVE ME AN INTERESTING EXAMPLE.
23:38:32 SHE SAID, WELL, JOHN, WHAT IF A FRIEND OF YOURS GOT
23:38:36 ARRESTED, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO CALL OVER TO
23:38:40 THE STATE ATTORNEY AND SAY, HEY, I THINK HE SHOULD DROP
23:38:44 THE CHARGES.
23:38:45 BY THE WAY, I'M YOUR CITY COUNCILMAN.
23:38:47 AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS ACTUALLY AN INTERESTING EXAMPLE,
23:38:53 SORT OF PARALLEL, BUT ON A BIGGER SCALE.
23:38:56 AND I THOUGHT, YEAH, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A GOOD POINT.
23:39:02 THAT'S PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE USE OF OUR POWER TO TRY
23:39:07 TO TELL SOMEBODY IN AN AGENCY LIKE STATE ATTORNEY TO NOT
23:39:13 TO DO HIS OR HER JOB.
23:39:14 SO THAT TO ME WAS VERY PERSUASIVE.
23:39:17 I THINK OUR INTENT, MR. CARLSON, I KNOW THAT YOUR INTENT
23:39:22 WAS HONORABLE IN REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL FEEL FOR THE
23:39:27 PROTESTORS, AND THE FACT SOME OF THEM GOT ARRESTED, YOU
23:39:30 KNOW, PERSONALLY.
23:39:33 I HOPE THAT THE MINOR OFFENSES -- BUT WE DO HAVE TO BE
23:39:38 CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT OUR ROLE IS IN THIS.
23:39:41 AND AS THEY SAY, MAYBE WE NEED TO STAY IN OUR OWN LANE.
23:39:45 THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.
23:39:46 I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION.
23:39:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY OPINION IS, IF WE WOULD SAY WE
23:39:51 DISAGREE WITH THE ARREST OR WE DISAGREE WITH THE CHARGES,
23:39:56 IT CAN BE IGNORED AND IT'S NOT IN MY WAY, IN MY OPINION,
23:39:59 YOU KNOW, FLEXING OUR MUSCLE OR USING SOME KIND OF UNDUE
23:40:04 INFLUENCE FROM OUR ELECTED POSITIONS, WHICH ANYBODY CAN
23:40:08 IGNORE OR ACCEPT IT.
23:40:10 BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.
23:40:12 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION?
23:40:14 ANY OPPOSED?
23:40:16 ALL RIGHT.
23:40:16 THAT'S IT.
23:40:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY
23:40:23 CLEAR THAT THERE WERE SOME PROTESTORS, SOME PEACEFUL
23:40:26 PROTESTORS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ARRESTED FOR UNLAWFUL
23:40:32 ASSEMBLY.
23:40:33 AND I WOULD HOPE THAT PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY BE IN THE
23:40:39 JUDICIAL SYSTEM OR NOT, GIVE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION TO
23:40:42 PEOPLE THAT MAY BE UNDER AGE THAT WERE SWEPT UP IN THE
23:40:47 MOMENT.
23:40:48 I DO NOT WANT TO SEE SOME YOUNG PERSON'S LIFE RUINED FOR
23:40:55 A CHARGE WHEN THEY WERE PEACEFULLY PROTESTING.
23:40:59 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
23:41:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:41:02 ITEM NUMBER 10 RYAN RAIN PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:41:09 COORDINATION, ITEM 10 IS 20-15 FOR PROPERTY AT 4408 AND
23:41:14 4410 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
23:41:16 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM IG
23:41:18 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO ALLOW
23:41:23 FOR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES.
23:41:24 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
23:41:31 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
23:41:32 WE ARE OVER IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
23:41:35 NEXT CASE.
23:41:37 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ALONG WEST HILLSBOROUGH
23:41:40 AVENUE WHICH IS DESIGNATED TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
23:41:46 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN THE AREA.
23:41:50 IT'S ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT SITE ON
23:41:53 HILLSBOROUGH.
23:41:53 AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN A LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.
23:41:56 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
23:42:01 YOU HAVE WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE ON THE NORTH.
23:42:04 ALL THESE USES HERE ARE BASICALLY MOSTLY COMMERCIAL USES.
23:42:09 THERE MAY BE SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HERE.
23:42:11 BUT THEN AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH, SOUTH OF CREST AVENUE,
23:42:16 IT'S PREDOMINANTLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.
23:42:20 THIS IS ALSO THE EDGE OF THE AIRPORT.
23:42:22 THE AIRPORT IS OVER HERE TO THE SOUTHWEST.
23:42:26 AND THEN YOU HAVE GOT INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE NORTH.
23:42:32 HERE WE HAVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
23:42:36 THE LIGHT GRAY REPRESENTS THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FUTURE
23:42:38 LAND USE CATEGORY.
23:42:40 THE BLUE REPRESENTS PUBLIC QUASI PUBLIC, AND THEN THERE
23:42:44 IS SOME COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 TO THE NORTH ON WEST
23:42:49 HILLSBOROUGH.
23:42:55 THE SITE AGAIN IS WITHIN THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FUTURE
23:42:58 LAND USE CATEGORY.
23:43:00 THIS PORTION OF WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IS PREDOMINANTLY
23:43:04 COMMERCIAL.
23:43:05 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THE REQUEST
23:43:07 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OF THIS PORTION
23:43:10 OF THE WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE CORRIDOR.
23:43:13 AND IN CONCLUSION, THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT OF THE
23:43:16 CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND THE POLICY DIRECTION WITHIN THE
23:43:19 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS
23:43:21 DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS COMPARABLE AND
23:43:25 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
23:43:27 THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S ANTICIPATE IT HAD UNDER
23:43:31 THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY.
23:43:33 AND BASED ON THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
23:43:35 RECOMMENDS TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THIS REZONING REQUEST
23:43:39 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
23:43:42 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:43:44 THANK YOU.
23:43:44 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN.
23:43:49 THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.
23:43:51 THEREFORE THERE ARE NO WAIVERS PERMITTED OR BEING
23:43:53 REQUESTED.
23:43:53 THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY
23:43:55 LOCATED AT 4408 AND 4410 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE FROM IG
23:44:00 TO CI TO ALLOW FOR INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES.
23:44:02 THE CI DIRECT PERMITS HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND SERVICE USES.
23:44:07 THIS REQUEST CONSISTS TWO OF PARCELS TOTALING 1.5 ACRES
23:44:11 OR 65,551 SQUARE FEET.
23:44:13 THE CURRENT USE OF THE STRIP SHOPPING CENTER AND A
23:44:18 RESTAURANT.
23:44:18 THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG THE WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE
23:44:21 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
23:44:22 PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RESTAURANT, RETAIL SALES USES
23:44:26 TO THE NORTH IN THE CI ZONING DISTRICT, VEHICLE SALES AND
23:44:28 LEASING AND OPEN STORAGE TO THE SOUTH AND EAST IN THE IG
23:44:33 ZONING DISTRICT AND THE RESTAURANT USE TO THE WEST IN THE
23:44:35 IG ZONING DISTRICT.
23:44:36 THERE WERE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN 1,000
23:44:40 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
23:44:41 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
23:44:45 AS DAVID MENTIONED, THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN RED
23:44:51 AND OVER HERE YOU HAVE THE EDGE OF TAMPA INTERNATIONAL,
23:44:55 GETTING MORE INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE SOUTH.
23:44:57 HILLSBOROUGH IS PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL USE WITH SOME OF
23:45:02 THE OPEN STORAGE BEING IN SOME OF THESE SOUTHERN
23:45:05 PROPERTIES.
23:45:06 I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
23:45:09 THIS IS 4408, THE RESTAURANT USE.
23:45:13 THIS IS 4410, THE STRIP CENTER.
23:45:18 4406.
23:45:20 THAT'S THE EAST AND SOUTH NEIGHBOR.
23:45:22 THIS IS THE WEST NEIGHBOR, 4502 WEST HILLSBOROUGH.
23:45:26 IT'S A RESTAURANT.
23:45:27 NORTH ACROSS HILLSBOROUGH.
23:45:30 THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF HESPERIDES AND HILLSBOROUGH.
23:45:36 WEST ON HILLSBOROUGH.
23:45:37 EAST ON HILLSBOROUGH.
23:45:39 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION
23:45:43 AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
23:45:46 THIS CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
23:45:48 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
23:45:52 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
23:45:53 PETITIONER.
23:45:54 >> GOOD EVENING OR ALMOST GOOD MORNING.
23:45:57 MARILYN HEALY FROM ACKERMAN REPRESENTING PROPERTY OWNER
23:46:03 HISTORIC PLAZA LLC.
23:46:05 WE ARE MAKING THIS REQUEST TO GO TO A LOWER INTENSE
23:46:09 ZONING.
23:46:10 BASICALLY TO PROVIDE FOR ZONING CATEGORY THAT IS
23:46:15 CONSISTENT WITH OUR ACTUAL USES THERE.
23:46:18 PERSONAL SERVICES ARE NOT ALLOWED USE IN THE IG
23:46:23 INDUSTRIAL AND THEY ARE IN THE CI.
23:46:24 SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE DOING THAT NOW.
23:46:28 WE HAVE A BARBERSHOP, BOUTIQUE AND SOME OTHER USES IN
23:46:31 THERE [RUSTLING PAPERS], THAT THEY HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG
23:46:36 TIME.
23:46:37 THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE CURRENT OWNER PURCHASED IT BACK
23:46:40 IN 1993 THROUGH A FORECLOSURE SALE.
23:46:44 THOUGHT IT WAS COMMERCIAL.
23:46:45 IT WAS A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER THEN.
23:46:47 HE'S UPGRADED IT TO FILL. IF THERE'S IN A PLAN FOR
23:46:52 CHANGING DESIGN OR ANYTHING BUT IT'S CREATING A LOT OF
23:46:55 CONFUSION WITH CERTAIN TENANTS, AND SUCCESSIVE PEOPLE WHO
23:47:00 TALKED TO HIM.
23:47:01 SO WE WOULD LIKE FOR THIS APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD.
23:47:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
23:47:05 ANY QUESTIONS?
23:47:07 IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
23:47:10 THIS ITEM?
23:47:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
23:47:14 >> SECOND.
23:47:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
23:47:16 MIRANDA.
23:47:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?
23:47:19 ALL RIGHT.
23:47:21 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
23:47:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
23:47:24 FILE NUMBER REZ 20-15.
23:47:29 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
23:47:31 CONSIDERATION.
23:47:32 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
23:47:34 4408 AND 47410 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
23:47:38 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
23:47:40 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG INDUSTRIAL
23:47:44 GENERAL TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
23:47:46 DATE, AS THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO
23:47:52 PROVIDE COMPETENT EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS
23:47:55 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE,
23:47:57 AND FINDING OF CONSISTENT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
23:48:03 STAFF.
23:48:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
23:48:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:48:06 ANY OPPOSED?
23:48:07 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:48:08 ITEM NUMBER 11.
23:48:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
23:48:12 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16 AT
23:48:15 9:30 A.M.
23:48:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
23:48:18 GO AHEAD.
23:48:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
23:48:22 COORDINATION IS REZ 20-18.
23:48:25 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1203 EAST HILLSBOROUGH
23:48:29 AVENUE AND 1202 EAST GIDDENS AVENUE FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
23:48:34 RESIDENTIAL AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO
23:48:39 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
23:48:46 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
23:48:47 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
23:48:49 THE NEXT SITE REMAINS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
23:48:52 DISTRICT, MORE SPECIFICALLY WE ARE IN THE SEMINOLE
23:48:55 HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
23:48:58 DUE TO THE DESIGNATED FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, IT IS A
23:49:03 RECOGNIZED MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
23:49:05 IT IS ON THE EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, ALSO RECOGNIZED AS
23:49:09 A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR AND TRANSIT IS PROVIDED ALONG
23:49:14 THIS SEGMENT.
23:49:16 GIDDENS PARK IS ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT
23:49:19 SITE AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOTE LOCATED WITHIN AN
23:49:21 EVACUATION ZONE.
23:49:24 HERE YOU HAVE THE AERIAL. THIS IS NORTH 12th.
23:49:28 HILLSBOROUGH.
23:49:28 AND THEN GIDDENS IS TO THE SOUTH.
23:49:31 THIS IS GIDDENS PARK RIGHT HERE TO THE SOUTHWEST.
23:49:36 IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL
23:49:40 ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS ON EAST HILLSBOROUGH, AND THEN
23:49:43 IMMEDIATELY BEHIND A LOT OF THESE COMMERCIAL USES IT GOES
23:49:47 DOWN TO A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL PATTERN.
23:49:51 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
23:49:54 THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE PARCELS IN THE RED TO THE WEST
23:49:57 AND TO THE EAST ARE ALL THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
23:50:02 AND IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE WE
23:50:07 HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL 20 ON THIS PORTION OF GIDDENS.
23:50:11 AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO A RESIDENTIAL 10 PREDOMINANTLY
23:50:14 TO THE SOUTH.
23:50:19 THE PROPOSED SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING
23:50:22 DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
23:50:25 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
23:50:27 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT AN INTERSECTION WITH THE
23:50:31 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND WITHIN A RECOGNIZED
23:50:34 COMMUNITY NODE AS OUTLINED WITHIN THE GREATER SEMINOLE
23:50:37 HEIGHTS VISION PLAN.
23:50:39 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES REDEVELOPMENT AND
23:50:42 IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN COMMUNITY NODES BY PROVIDING A
23:50:45 BONUS TO DENSITY AND INTENSITY WHEN CERTAIN AMENITIES ARE
23:50:49 INCLUDED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
23:50:52 IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
23:50:54 INTENSIVE ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT IS
23:50:57 COMPARABLE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING USES AND
23:51:01 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED
23:51:03 UNDER THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE
23:51:07 CATEGORY.
23:51:08 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
23:51:10 STAFF RECOMMENDS TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THIS REZONING
23:51:13 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
23:51:16 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:51:17 THANK YOU.
23:51:29 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT
23:51:31 1203 EAST GIDDENS EVE AND 1202 EAST GIDDENS AVENUE.
23:51:41 THE SOUTHERN PART, WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU, WITH THE
23:51:48 MICROPHONE, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE
23:51:51 BLACK HATCH MARK.
23:51:52 THIS IS CURRENTLY A BUSINESS LOCATED IN THIS PORTION OF
23:51:55 THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE, ALONG GIDDENS AVENUE.
23:51:59 THEY WANT TO SLIGHTLY STAND THEIR BUSINESS TO THE SOUTH.
23:52:03 ¶¶
23:52:03 I WILL NOTE FOR CLARIFICATION THAT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE,
23:52:09 THAT MY FINGER IS ON TOP OF, IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT
23:52:13 IS NOT PART OF THE REZONING.
23:52:14 SO A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE WILL REMAIN AT THIS CORNER OF
23:52:18 12th AND GIDDENS.
23:52:20 IT WILL REMAIN IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT WHICH
23:52:24 WILL CONTINUE TO INTERFACE WITH THE LARGER RESIDENTIAL
23:52:27 NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:52:29 THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT
23:52:32 WOULD SLIGHTLY GO TO THE SOUTH TO ALLOW EXTENSION OF THIS
23:52:36 BUSINESS.
23:52:37 BUT AGAIN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, THE REMAINING
23:52:40 RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THIS EXISTING FOLIO LOT REMAIN
23:52:43 RESIDENTIAL WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
23:52:47 I HAVE INCLUDED THE PARAMETERS.
23:52:54 SORRY, TOO MANY MICROPHONES.
23:52:59 INCLUDED THE PARAMETERS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IN YOUR
23:53:03 STAFF REPORT SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
23:53:07 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND FOUND IT
23:53:11 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
23:53:14 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
23:53:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
23:53:16 NO?
23:53:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:53:19 DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER 11?
23:53:21 YES, SIR.
23:53:22 >> GOOD EVENING.
23:53:24 MICHAEL HORNER, 15502 REPRESENTING THE OWNER,
23:53:32 H-O-R-N-E-R.
23:53:33 I COMMEND ALL OF YOU TONIGHT FOR BEING HERE, YOUR
23:53:37 PATIENCE AND DILIGENCE.
23:53:38 IT'S COMMENDABLE.
23:53:39 FOR THE RECORD FOR ME, I THINK MARY DID A FINE JOB THIS
23:53:44 EVENING.
23:53:45 THIS CLIENT HAS OWNED THROUGH HIS FAMILY AND THE PAWN
23:53:48 SHOP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
23:53:52 AND AT THE PASSING OF HIS FATHER, I DID PAUL OH JR. HAS
23:54:02 TAKEN OVER THAT BUSINESS AND RENOVATED THAT HOUSE ON THE
23:54:04 SOUTH SIDE.
23:54:05 SO MARY IS CORRECT IN REFERENCING THE HOUSE ON GIDDENS.
23:54:08 A BEAUTIFUL REHABBED HOUSE.
23:54:12 MY CLIENT FINDS HIMSELF IN A POSITION WHERE HE IS TAKING
23:54:18 VEHICLES, DIFFICULTY TIMES, PAWNS VEHICLES.
23:54:21 HE HAS TO HAVE A PLACE BECAUSE THEY COME BACK TO
23:54:28 REACQUIRE THOSE MOTOR VEHICLES. SO MY CLIENT IS ACTUALLY
23:54:32 TRANSFERRING 40 FEET OF HIS BACKYARD TO HIS BUSINESS SO
23:54:36 THAT HE CAN PHYSICALLY ACCOMMODATE THAT AND THE VEHICLES
23:54:44 WITHOUT HAVING A GARAGE, WITHOUT HAVING IMPACT TO THE
23:54:46 NEIGHBORS, WITHOUT HAVING A SEPARATE DRIVEWAY TO 12TH
23:54:49 STREET.
23:54:50 WE ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE NEW PUBLIX STORE THAT YOU
23:54:53 ALL APPROVED A YEAR OR SO AGO AND A THOUSAND FEET.
23:54:59 MY CLIENT IS CERTAINLY TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
23:55:02 IT IS SCREENED AND FENCED AND WILL BE IN A ACCESS TO 12TH
23:55:06 STREET.
23:55:06 PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE.
23:55:07 BUT LEGALLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT.
23:55:14 ANY QUESTIONS?
23:55:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
23:55:17 SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
23:55:19 TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM 11?
23:55:22 WE HAVE ONE.
23:55:22 >> I'M ACTUALLY HERE FOR ANOTHER CASE BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT
23:55:37 TO MY HOUSE.
23:55:38 MY HOUSE IS FOUR BLOCKS AWAY.
23:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NAME FOR THE RECORD, SIR?
23:55:41 >> TIMOTHY FLETCHER, F-L-E-T-C-H-E-R.
23:55:48 MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW IT'S GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT, AND
23:55:52 40 FEET.
23:55:53 IT'S ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL.
23:55:56 THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND I HAVEN'T
23:55:59 SEEN HIM ACTUALLY USE THE PROPERTY BEHIND IT.
23:56:02 BUT IF IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I WILL IT MAKE A LOT
23:56:10 MORE NOISE?
23:56:11 I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS ZONED.
23:56:13 THE CODE WORK AND STUFF.
23:56:15 BUT IS HE SIMPLY BRINGING THE PROPERTY, THE EXISTING CODE
23:56:19 BACK 40 FEET SO HE CAN, YOU KNOW, PARK MORE VEHICLES?
23:56:23 OR IS IT GOING TO BE INCREASED IN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY,
23:56:27 WHICH MEANS A LOT MORE NOISE?
23:56:30 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:56:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER IT?
23:56:34 >> MICHAEL HORNER AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
23:56:39 I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION, AND YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT.
23:56:41 THIS IS A GRASS 40-FOOT STRIP, WILL REMAIN A GRASS
23:56:46 40-FOOT STRIP.
23:56:47 THE BUSINESS IS NOT CHANGING.
23:56:48 NO INCREASE IN INTENSITY. NO EXPANSION IN FLOOR AREA.
23:56:54 RIGHT NOW HE CANNOT PHYSICALLY PLACE HIS VEHICLES THERE.
23:57:00 THAT'S WHY HE'S GIVING UP A PORTION OF HIS BACKYARD.
23:57:04 NO BUSINESS EXPANSION.
23:57:08 DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
23:57:09 >> SO THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO GIDDENS THAT ZONING FOR
23:57:15 THAT PROPERTY STAY IT IS SAME?
23:57:18 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
23:57:19 AND STILL MEETS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR
23:57:22 RS-50 WHICH IS WHAT YOUR ZONING IS.
23:57:25 IT'S JUST TRANSFERRING 40 FEET AND STILL MEETING A
23:57:30 BACKYARD SETBACK.
23:57:31 >> THANK YOU.
23:57:33 NO MORE QUESTIONS.
23:57:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:57:34 ANY OTHER SPEAKERS FROM THE PUBLIC?
23:57:38 CAN I GET A MOTION?
23:57:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I NEED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD FROM
23:57:48 MY LEGAL COUNSEL, CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT
23:57:52 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
23:57:54 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT, AND WHILE IT MIGHT
23:57:57 BE THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS INTENT TO DO A CERTAIN
23:58:00 BUSINESS ACTIVITY, AS YOU KNOW, ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND
23:58:05 SO ANY USE THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
23:58:08 COMMERCIAL INTEND INTENSIVE DISTRICT COULD OCCUR ON THIS
23:58:11 PROPERTY AT ANY TIME.
23:58:12 THANK YOU.
23:58:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:58:13 ANY QUESTIONS?
23:58:14 ANYTHING ELSE?
23:58:15 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
23:58:17 >> SO MOVED.
23:58:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
23:58:22 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:58:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:58:24 ALL RIGHT.
23:58:27 WHO WAS NEXT HERE?
23:58:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:58:35 11.
23:58:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
23:58:38 WITH REGARD TO FILE REZ 20-18, MOVE THE FOLLOWING
23:58:43 ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
23:58:48 I BELIEVE THEY MET THE CRITERIA FOR THE REZONING.
23:58:51 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
23:58:55 12303 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND 1202 EAST GID EPPS
23:58:59 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
23:59:01 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
23:59:04 CLASSIFICATION SH-CI SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
23:59:07 INTENSIVE AND SH-RS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL
23:59:11 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TO SH-CI SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
23:59:15 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
23:59:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:59:18 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
23:59:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:59:21 ANY OPPOSED?
23:59:22 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
23:59:25 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16 AT
23:59:29 9:30 A.M.
23:59:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:59:31 ITEM NUMBER 12.
23:59:33 RYAN RAIN PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
23:59:35 ITEM NUMBER 127 IS APPLICATION REZ 20-03.
23:59:38 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1213 EAST GIDDENS AVENUE.
23:59:42 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM
23:59:44 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SRHS TO
23:59:48 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SH-PD.
23:59:53 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING.
00:00:59 GOOD MORNING MAYBE.
00:00:01 >>DAVID HEY: DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
00:00:03 WE REMAIN IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
00:00:06 ALMOST ON THE SAME EXACT STREET.
00:00:08 WE'RE ON EAST -- 1213 EAST GIDDENS.
00:00:11 THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN
00:00:15 VILLAGE.
00:00:15 IT ALSO, THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH
00:00:20 ON HILLSBOROUGH.
00:00:22 AGAIN, THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS
00:00:25 GIDDENS PARK AND THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN
00:00:28 EVACUATION ZONE.
00:00:29 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
00:00:33 THIS WAS THE SUBJECT SITE THAT WE JUST WERE LOOKING AT.
00:00:36 THIS IS OUR SUBJECT SITE, Z 20-03.
00:00:42 GIDDENS AVENUE, HILLSBOROUGH.
00:00:45 HERE IS THE PARK AGAIN.
00:00:46 YOU CAN SEE THE ROOFTOPS.
00:00:48 THEY ARE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WITHIN THE
00:00:52 SEGMENT AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL USES UP ON HILLSBOROUGH
00:00:54 AVENUE.
00:00:56 AGAIN, THE SUBJECT SITE AND PROPERTIES ON THIS SEGMENT OF
00:01:01 GIDDENS ARE ALL THAT RESIDENTIAL 20, SO IT DOES ALLOW
00:01:06 CONSIDERATION OF TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
00:01:09 AND THEN THE MORE INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT, THE COMMERCIAL
00:01:12 DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH ON EAST
00:01:15 HILLSBOROUGH.
00:01:16 AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
00:01:20 RESIDENTIAL 10 CAN BE FOUND TO THE SOUTH.
00:01:23 THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WILL ALLOW THE DIVISION OF THE
00:01:30 LOT RESULTING IN TWO PARCELS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
00:01:34 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCE WHILE MAINTAINING THE
00:01:37 EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE SITE.
00:01:39 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
00:01:42 APPLICATION AND FOUND NOT ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE
00:01:45 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
00:01:46 THIS PORTION OF EAST GIDDENS AVENUE, EXCLUDING THE
00:01:50 SUBJECT SITE, HAS A DENSITY OF 6.38 UNITS PER ACRE.
00:01:54 THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONSIDERATION
00:01:57 OF TWO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS AND AN OVERALL DENSITY OF
00:02:00 6.67 UNITS PER ACRE, CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY
00:02:04 ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE
00:02:08 DESIGNATION.
00:02:08 AND WELL UNDER THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED FOR THIS SITE.
00:02:12 FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS SIMILAR
00:02:15 IN FORM, HEIGHT, AND SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL
00:02:18 USES FOUND ALONG THIS PORTION OF GIDDENS AVENUE.
00:02:22 THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE
00:02:25 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING THE CITY'S
00:02:28 POPULATION.
00:02:29 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON
00:02:32 VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE AN ADEQUATE
00:02:36 SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
00:02:39 TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.
00:02:41 IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS
00:02:43 COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
00:02:47 ALONG EAST GIDDENS AVENUE, SUPPORTS MANY OF THE HOUSING
00:02:50 POLICIES AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-RANGE
00:02:53 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ENCOURAGED UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL 20.
00:02:56 BASED ON THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DOES
00:02:58 RECOMMEND TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING
00:03:02 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISION OF THE IMAGINE
00:03:04 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
00:03:06 THANK YOU.
00:03:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:03:18 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING DESIGN AND
00:03:20 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
00:03:21 THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY
00:03:23 AT 1213 EAST GIDDENS AVENUE FROM SH-RS TO SH-PD TO ALLOW
00:03:29 FOR TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL LOTS
00:03:32 IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN AS PARCEL A AND PARCEL B.
00:03:34 SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SPLIT
00:03:37 EXISTING ZONING LOT TO ALLOW FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE
00:03:39 TO REMAIN AS WELL AS CREATE A NEW ZONING LOT PARCEL A FOR
00:03:43 A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING.
00:03:45 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ONE WAIVER FOR RELIEF FROM
00:03:48 THE FRONT SETBACK TO THE BUILD-TO LINE.
00:03:50 THE AERIAL MAP ON SCREEN, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED BETWEEN
00:03:54 NORTH 12th AND 13th STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST
00:03:57 GIDDENS AVENUE.
00:03:58 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY ZONING DISTRICT SH-RS WITH
00:04:02 EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS ON ALL SIDES.
00:04:05 THAT'S THE SITE PLAN.
00:04:14 THE OVERALL SITE MEASURES 100 FEET IN WIDTH BY 132.50
00:04:20 FEET IN DEPTH FOR TOTAL LOT AREA OF 13,250 SQUARE FEET.
00:04:25 PARCEL A MEASURES 45 FEET IN WIDTH WITH 132.5 FEET IN
00:04:29 DEPTH.
00:04:29 PARCEL B MEASURES 55 FEET IN WIDTH WITH 132.5 FEET IN
00:04:34 DEPTH.
00:04:34 THE SETBACKS FOR PARCEL A ARE AS FOLLOWS: NORTH 27 FEET.
00:04:38 SOUTH 20 FEET.
00:04:39 EAST 5 FEET.
00:04:41 WEST 5 FEET.
00:04:42 SETBACKS FOR PARCEL B ARE AS FOLLOWS: NORTH 55.8 FEET,
00:04:45 SOUTH 20 FEET.
00:04:46 EAST 4 FEET.
00:04:47 WEST 7 FEET.
00:04:48 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR PARCEL A AND PARCEL B IS
00:04:53 PROPOSED AT 35 FEET.
00:04:54 A TOTAL OF TWO PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED PER LOT AND
00:04:57 TWO PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR EACH LOT.
00:05:01 THE CONFORMING MAP ON THE SCREEN FOR THE STAFF ANALYSIS.
00:05:10 THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDE PORTIONS OF THE
00:05:13 McDAVID EAST SUBDIVISION, RM ANDERSON SUBDIVISION.
00:05:16 THE SPERRY SUBDIVISION AND ECKLAND SUBDIVISION.
00:05:21 THE AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDED 379 TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
00:05:25 198 OR 52% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
00:05:29 OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND 181 OR 48 PERCENT OF THEM HAVE
00:05:33 BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
00:05:37 THE McDAVID'S EAST SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED
00:05:41 IN 1922 WITH LOTS WIDTH RANGING FROM 50 TO 60 FEET AND
00:05:47 LOT DEPTHS FROM 132.5 TO 140 FEET.
00:05:50 THE McDAVID EAST SEMINOLE SUBDIVISION CONTAINS FOUR
00:05:54 BLOCKS.
00:05:55 SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHWEST BLOCK OF THE
00:05:57 SUBDIVISION.
00:05:58 LOTS 29 AND 30.
00:06:00 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN,
00:06:03 THE SUBJECT LOT CONTAINS 15 TOTAL ZONING LOTS OR 100% OF
00:06:08 THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR
00:06:11 GREATER AND ZERO HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF
00:06:14 49.99 OR LESS.
00:06:16 THE 1200 BLOCK OF EAST GIDDENS, THAT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF
00:06:21 THE STREET CONTAINS 19 TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND 19 OF THEM
00:06:25 OR 100% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF
00:06:29 50 FEET OR GREATER AND ZERO HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
00:06:32 WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
00:06:35 THE BLOCK FACE ITSELF CONTAINS EIGHT ZONING LOTS.
00:06:39 EIGHT OF THEM OR 100% DEVELOPED WITH WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR
00:06:44 GREATER AND ZERO 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
00:06:47 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REQUEST FOR REZONING
00:06:50 INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE
00:06:52 AREA.
00:06:53 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN THE
00:06:56 THOUSAND-FEET BUFFER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
00:06:59 I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
00:07:01 1213, THE SUBJECT SITE.
00:07:09 1214, 1221, 23, 1225, 1226, 1224, 1220, 1218, 1216.
00:07:29 PREDOMINANTLY ALL THE PICTURES HERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY
00:07:34 HOMES.
00:07:34 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
00:07:37 THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
00:07:39 THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
00:07:41 IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
00:07:44 APPLICATION, THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO THE SITE
00:07:48 PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
00:07:52 THAT'S STATED ON THE REVISED REVISION SHEET IN THE STAFF
00:07:55 REPORT.
00:07:55 DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
00:07:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS?
00:08:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR, PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
00:08:05 THE ASK FOR THE WAIVERS IS SO THAT YOU CAN SAVE THE
00:08:08 EXISTING HOUSE ALREADY THERE, CORRECT?
00:08:13 >> KEVIN ROBLES, YES, SIR, THAT IS CORRECT.
00:08:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
00:08:19 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
00:08:21 APPLICANT?
00:08:24 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
00:08:26 THANK YOU, RYAN, I APPRECIATE THAT.
00:08:30 I DID WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS FROM
00:08:35 STAFF'S REVIEW, AND I APOLOGIZE.
00:08:39 WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR A PROJECTOR HERE?
00:08:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT IN THE CENTER AND THEN IT
00:08:45 ACTIVATES IT.
00:08:53 >> I DID WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION THAT THE SUBJECT
00:08:56 PROPERTY IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
00:08:59 THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE PARCEL CALCULATIONS, THERE'S
00:09:03 ACTUALLY A CITY PARK HERE, AND THIS IS ALSO A CITY PARK
00:09:06 RIGHT HERE, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT.
00:09:10 ADDITIONALLY, THIS PARCEL, WHICH ABUTS RIGHT HERE IS --
00:09:14 FALLS WITHIN HIS OVER 60 WIDTH CLASSIFICATION.
00:09:18 THESE ARE ACTUALLY ONE PARCEL WIDTH FOR DETACHED
00:09:24 APARTMENTS ON THEM.
00:09:27 THIS IS R 20 LAND USE.
00:09:29 IT WILL SUPPORT THE DENSITY AND HE OBVIOUSLY WENT THROUGH
00:09:31 THE DENSITY.
00:09:33 ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE SEVERAL PARCELS WITHIN THE
00:09:35 1300-FOOT RADIUS THAT ARE LESS THAN 50, AND THEY ARE
00:09:42 DELINEATED HERE IN BLOCK ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE,
00:09:46 SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN WITHIN THE 1300-FOOT RANGE.
00:09:54 ADDITIONALLY, THIS PROPERTY FALLS IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA
00:10:01 OF WHICH WE DO QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN THERE.
00:10:08 IN THE LAST 24 MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN COMMITTED TO EAST TAMPA
00:10:11 AND CONSTRUCTED OVER 72 BRAND-NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN
00:10:17 EAST TAMPA, WHICH TRANSLATES TO $154 MILLION WORTH OF
00:10:34 ECONOMIC IMPACT INTO THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
00:10:37 ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU GO BACK INTO THE EAST TAMPA
00:10:41 STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, IT SPEAKS TO HOUSING BEING BOTH
00:10:47 PRESERVED AND HOUSING STOCK ADDED.
00:10:51 THIS PD WAS A REQUEST TO TAKE TWO UNDERLYING PLATTED
00:10:56 50-FOOT LOTS AND NOT DESTROY THE EXISTING STRUCTURE
00:11:03 THAT'S ON THERE BUT SIMPLY TAKE FIVE FEET OF ONE OF THE
00:11:07 PLATTED LOTS AND ADD IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT
00:11:11 WAS ON THERE, RETAINING THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND MEETING
00:11:15 THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NEWLY CREATED 45-FOOT WIDE LOT.
00:11:18 I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR
00:11:23 COUNCIL, IF THEY WISH.
00:11:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL
00:11:26 MEMBERS?
00:11:26 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
00:11:31 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 12?
00:11:40 >> HELLO.
00:11:41 THIS IS THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY.
00:11:43 MY NAME IS TIMOTHY FLECHER.
00:11:46 T-I-M-O-T-H-Y F-L-E-C-H-E-R.
00:11:52 I DID A LOT OF GOOGLE SEARCHES ON ZONING.
00:11:57 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS TO INCREASE THE ZONING ON
00:12:04 THIS PROPERTY.
00:12:04 THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO
00:12:08 BUILD A PROPERTY ON THAT LOT.
00:12:10 I WANT TO SHOW, HE ACTUALLY -- CAN YOU USE LIKE A
00:12:14 HANDWRITTEN?
00:12:16 YOU CAN SEE --
00:12:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU COULD GRAB THE MICROPHONE SO
00:12:21 WE CAN HEAR YOU.
00:12:24 THERE SHOULD BE ONE ON THE TABLE.
00:12:25 >> SEE, MY PROPERTY IS THIS ENTIRE L SHAPE.
00:12:29 HE WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING RIGHT HERE.
00:12:31 NOW, I DON'T MIND IF HE ENCROACHES ON HIS OWN BECAUSE
00:12:36 THERE IS A BUILDING RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS THE PETITIONER'S
00:12:41 HOME AND THEN HE WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING HERE.
00:12:43 IT'S OKAY IF HE ENCROACHES INTO HIS OWN LOT.
00:12:46 BUT, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW WHY -- THAT WOULD JUST BE
00:12:49 A VARIANCE REVIEW ISSUE.
00:12:51 I DON'T KNOW WHY HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO
00:12:53 INCREASE THE ZONING.
00:12:55 DOMAIN HOMES, WHO IS HIS BUILDER, ACROSS THE STREET HE'S
00:13:00 BUILT TWO TWO-STORY STRUCTURES.
00:13:02 I'M ASSUMING ON THIS ONE THIS ZONING WOULD ALLOW HIM TO
00:13:06 BUILD A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE.
00:13:09 YOU CAN SEE WITH MY PROPERTY HERE, THIS L-SHAPED
00:13:12 PROPERTY, I WILL COMPLETELY LOSE MY PRIVACY ON HERE.
00:13:16 I ACTUALLY MOVED INTO MY PROPERTY AT 1214 23 YEARS AGO.
00:13:38 PRICES WERE CHEAP BACK THEN.
00:13:40 I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE 1216 EAST FRIERSON, AND THEN I
00:13:43 PURCHASED 1220 EAST FRIERSON, AND THEN I PURCHASED 1219
00:13:48 EAST GIDDENS, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
00:13:52 SO THAT WHOLE THING -- MY PRIVACY -- AND EVERY DOMAIN
00:13:56 HOME THAT I'VE SEEN BUILT IN THIS AREA, BECAUSE I JOG IN
00:13:59 THE MORNING AND I LOOK UP AND DOWN, AND DOMAIN HOMES
00:14:03 ALWAYS BUILDS TWO-STORY STRUCTURES.
00:14:05 THE PETITIONER ACTUALLY OWNED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET
00:14:07 THESE TWO LOTS RIGHT HERE.
00:14:09 OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS -- AND, BY THE WAY, IF THE
00:14:12 PETITIONER NEEDED MORE SPACE, HE COULD HAVE BUILT HIS OWN
00:14:16 PERSONAL PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE.
00:14:17 INSTEAD HE SOLD THE LOTS AND DOMAIN BUILT THE PROPERTIES.
00:14:21 SO A SPACE SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
00:14:23 A SLIGHT VARIANCE IS OKAY BUT A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE WOULD
00:14:28 COMPLETELY DIMINISH ALL OF MY PRIVACY IN THE BACKYARD.
00:14:31 TWO LOTS AWAY, THERE'S A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE
00:14:34 THAT'S GRANDFATHERED IN FROM DECADES AGO.
00:14:37 AND THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY ABUTS THE BACK OF THIS
00:14:40 PROPERTY.
00:14:41 AND EVEN WITH TWO LOTS AWAY, THEY CAN SEE DIRECTLY IN MY
00:14:46 BACKYARD.
00:14:48 HAVING A PROPERTY RIGHT HERE WOULD JUST BE DEVASTATING TO
00:14:53 ME AND MY FAMILY.
00:14:55 WHAT I DID WAS -- I USED THESE PROPERTIES FOR MY OWN
00:15:02 PERSONAL USE.
00:15:03 AFTER PURCHASING ALL THESE PROPERTIES, WHAT DO THEY CALL
00:15:09 IT?
00:15:09 THEY ARE ADJOINED, HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES.
00:15:12 THEY ARE NOT USED FOR MY PERSONAL GAIN.
00:15:15 THEY ARE USED FOR MY CHILDREN.
00:15:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
00:15:21 >> CAN I SAY ANYTHING ELSE?
00:15:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN GIVE YOU 30 MORE SECONDS.
00:15:26 >> I'M HOMESCHOOLING MY TWO GIRLS, FOUR AND FIVE YEARS
00:15:30 OLD.
00:15:30 SINGLE-FAMILY.
00:15:31 I GOT CUSTODY OF MY CHILDREN LAST YEAR.
00:15:33 I'M PLANNING ON -- I'VE BEEN HERE 23 YEARS ALREADY.
00:15:37 I'LL BE HERE TO RAISE MY CHILDREN FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT
00:15:40 15 YEARS.
00:15:41 I'M RETIRED.
00:15:42 I HOMESCHOOL MY CHILDREN.
00:15:44 I WANT TO PASS THE HOMES AND ALL THESE PROPERTIES ON TO
00:15:48 MY CHILDREN.
00:15:49 THIS IS A VERY LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE FOR ME.
00:15:51 THAT'S IT.
00:15:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:15:53 ANYBODY ELSE?
00:15:55 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE APPLICANT?
00:16:05 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
00:16:08 DO YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL TO THAT?
00:16:09 >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
00:16:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE.
00:16:13 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
00:16:15 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
00:16:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
00:16:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE YOU CLOSE, I JUST WANT TO
00:16:21 ADDRESS THE GENTLEMAN, DON'T GET UP OR ANYTHING, I JUST
00:16:25 WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN.
00:16:29 GENERALLY SPEAKING -- KEVIN, I'M SORRY.
00:16:32 CAN'T SEE HIM.
00:16:33 GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE NOT -- WE DON'T ADDRESS ONE
00:16:38 STORY VERSUS TWO STORY.
00:16:40 IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S A ONE STORY HOUSE THERE, IF I
00:16:44 OWN A ONE-STORY HOUSE AND IT HAPPENS TO BE NEXT TO YOUR
00:16:49 AND I WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD A TWO-STORY HOUSE,
00:16:53 AS LONG AS IT'S LESS THAN 35 FEET, THE CODE JUST ALLOWS
00:16:59 IT AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
00:17:02 I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I'M NOT DIMINISHING YOUR
00:17:05 CONCERN ABOUT PRIVACY AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT UNDER
00:17:08 OUR CODE, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY CAN DO THAT PRETTY MUCH AT
00:17:14 THEIR WILL.
00:17:15 I BELIEVE THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT, WHAT HE'S TRYING TO
00:17:18 DO IS JUST BUILD A SECOND HOUSE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS
00:17:24 PROBABLY AN ORIGINAL LOT, BUT HE HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS
00:17:29 MECHANISM BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL LITTLE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE
00:17:31 WAS BUILT TOO CLOSE OR WHATEVER TO THAT OTHER LOT.
00:17:36 EVEN IF WE WANTED TO OR EVEN IF I WANTED TO HELP IN THAT
00:17:42 REGARD, WE CAN'T FIX THAT ISSUE OF ONE STORY VERSUS TWO
00:17:46 STORY.
00:17:47 IT'S OUT OF THE REALM OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
00:17:50 I DIDN'T EXPLAIN THAT VERY WELL, BUT I TRIED MY BEST.
00:17:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
00:17:55 WE HAVE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND TO CLOSE.
00:17:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:17:59 ALL RIGHT.
00:18:00 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
00:18:02 I THINK THIS GOES TO COUNCILMAN CITRO OR COUNCILMAN
00:18:06 CARLSON, YOU HAVE THIS ONE.
00:18:08 ITEM NUMBER 12.
00:18:11 >>BILL CARLSON: I'D LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-20-03,
00:18:15 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
00:18:17 CONSIDERATION.
00:18:18 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
00:18:21 1213 EAST GIDDENS AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
00:18:24 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
00:18:26 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-RS (SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
00:18:31 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO SH-PD (SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
00:18:35 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
00:18:37 DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
00:18:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
00:18:42 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
00:18:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WISH TO MAKE
00:18:47 REFERENCE TO THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND PERHAPS MAKE
00:18:52 REFERENCE TO THE REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
00:18:55 READING.
00:18:57 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
00:18:58 I'D LIKE TO MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT.
00:19:00 DO WE HAVE A SECOND, THOUGH?
00:19:06 I'D LIKE TO REFERENCE THE DOCUMENT, WHATEVER YOU JUST
00:19:09 SAID.
00:19:09 SORRY.
00:19:10 I'M EXHAUSTED HERE.
00:19:11 AND THE REVISION SHEET.
00:19:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT?
00:19:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M NOT GOING TO BE
00:19:20 SUPPORTING THE MOVE, ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE THE REMARKS
00:19:24 THAT WERE MADE, AND I JUST FEEL THAT I SAW WHAT THE
00:19:28 SCREEN SAID, THERE ARE SOME 45-FOOT LOTS IN THE AREA, BUT
00:19:31 IN THAT BLOCK, THERE ARE NONE THAT I SAW.
00:19:34 AND THAT'S THE FEELING I HAVE.
00:19:38 IF I SAW THAT PRECEDENT -- WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH
00:19:42 PROBLEMS.
00:19:42 I SEE SOMETIMES WHERE SOME -- WITH BEING CONSISTENT THEY
00:19:47 ARE TURNED DOWN IN CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN, NOT CONSISTENT
00:19:51 IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN IT IS APPROVED.
00:19:54 I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT.
00:19:55 IF I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR A 50-FOOT LOT IN ONE AREA, THEN
00:20:00 IF I VOTE FOR THIS 45-FOOT LOT, I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR
00:20:05 ANOTHER 45-FOOT LOT IN ANOTHER AREA BECAUSE IT'S THE
00:20:08 WHOLE CITY.
00:20:09 IF THAT BLOCK HAD 25, 35, 45 PERCENT, 45-FOOT LOT, I
00:20:16 WOULD SUPPORT IT.
00:20:18 BUT IF IT IS THE FIRST ONE OR THE SECOND ONE AND I DO
00:20:21 THIS CONSISTENTLY AND NO MATTER IF IT'S SOUTH TAMPA, EAST
00:20:24 TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, I VOTED AGAINST A 49-FOOT LOT ON THE
00:20:28 CORNER OF KENTUCKY AND ARMENIA ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO,
00:20:32 FOUR MONTHS AGO, WHEN AT THE SAME TIME I VOTED FOR ONE
00:20:37 THAT A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES --
00:20:41 I DON'T QUESTION ANYBODY'S MOTIVE OR VOTE.
00:20:43 IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE TO VOTE HOW YOU WANT.
00:20:45 I'M SAYING IN THIS CASE I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT.
00:20:49 45-FOOT LOTS WITHOUT HAVING IN THAT BLOCK ARE ACCEPTABLE.
00:20:55 THAT'S JUST MY FEELING.
00:20:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL
00:21:01 CARLSON.
00:21:02 IS THERE A SECOND?
00:21:03 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
00:21:05 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
00:21:07 OPPOSED?
00:21:09 >> NAY.
00:21:10 >> NAY.
00:21:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND MIRANDA VOTING
00:21:15 NO.
00:21:15 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16 AT
00:21:19 9:30 A.M.
00:21:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
00:21:24 ITEM 13.
00:21:24 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING DESIGN AND
00:21:27 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ITEM 13 IS FOR APPLICATION
00:21:29 REZ-20-12, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4155 AND 4157 WEST CYPRESS
00:21:36 STREET.
00:21:37 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM
00:21:39 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS 50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD
00:21:42 TO ALLOW OFFICE, BUSINESS, OR PROFESSIONAL USE.
00:21:51 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
00:21:52 DAVID HEY AGAIN WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
00:21:54 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
00:21:55 WE'RE OVER IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
00:21:58 NEXT CASE, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE CARVER CITY LINCOLN
00:22:02 GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.
00:22:05 THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN PROXIMITY TO THE SITE.
00:22:08 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS JIM WALTER
00:22:12 PARK, AND THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION
00:22:20 ZONE.
00:22:20 ON TO THE AERIAL, THIS IS CYPRESS.
00:22:22 WE'VE GOT NORTH LOIS.
00:22:24 THIS IS HEADING UP TO INTERNATIONAL PLAZA.
00:22:27 OF COURSE, INTERSTATE 275.
00:22:30 THIS SECTION OF CYPRESS HAS THAT UNIQUE ASPECT WHERE ON
00:22:34 THE SOUTH SIDE THERE'S SOME LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE
00:22:39 REGIONAL MIXED USE 100, AND THEN IT IMMEDIATELY TAPERS
00:22:43 DOWN INTO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TO THE NORTH.
00:22:45 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP BACKS THAT UP.
00:22:49 HERE IS THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100.
00:22:52 THAT IS THE MOST INTENSIVE CATEGORY OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN
00:22:54 TAMPA, AND THEN YOU IMMEDIATELY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
00:22:57 CYPRESS GO DOWN TO A RESIDENTIAL 20, AND THEN BEHIND THAT
00:23:01 TO THE NORTH, IT GOES DOWN TO A RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE
00:23:04 LAND USE CATEGORY.
00:23:05 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY
00:23:10 COMMERCIAL USES ARE TO MEET THE COMMERCIAL LOCALS
00:23:15 CRITERIA -- LOCATIONAL CRITERIA ADOPTED WITHIN THE
00:23:18 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
00:23:19 COMMERCIAL USES UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE
00:23:21 CATEGORY EITHER HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ONTO ROADWAYS
00:23:25 CLASSIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR, ACCESS IS
00:23:29 AVAILABLE TO THE PROPERTY FROM NORTH LOIS AVENUE, A
00:23:34 COLLECTOR ROADWAY, WHICH THEN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
00:23:36 LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
00:23:38 THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
00:23:40 EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOUND IN THIS PORTION OF THE
00:23:43 CARVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS.
00:23:46 IT DOES OFFER -- THE USE DOES OFFER A TRANSITION FROM THE
00:23:51 MORE INTENSE USES TO THE SOUTH TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY
00:23:55 DETACHED TO THE NORTH.
00:23:57 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
00:24:01 STAFF RECOMMENDS TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THIS REZONING
00:24:03 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE
00:24:10 TAMPA 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
00:24:12 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYE I CAN'T SAY MANASSE, PLANNING DESIGN
00:24:14 AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
00:24:15 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ON STAFF REPORT, PAGE 4, A
00:24:18 STRIKE-THROUGH I NEED TO PUT ON THE RECORD.
00:24:20 IT'S LANGUAGE IN REFERENCE TO THE IN LIEU FEE THAT IS
00:24:23 REQUESTED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD THIS BE
00:24:26 APPROVED.
00:24:26 I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AT THIS POINT.
00:24:28 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF IT, AS
00:24:31 WELL AS OUR LEGAL TEAM.
00:24:32 WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN REMOVING THAT IN LIEU FEE
00:24:35 WORDING.
00:24:36 GOING FORWARD, THE APPLICANT, AGAIN, IS PROPOSING TO
00:24:38 REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 4155 AND 4157 WEST CYPRESS STREET
00:24:43 FROM RS 50 TO PD TO ALLOW FOR AN OFFICE,
00:24:48 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL USE.
00:24:50 THERE ARE A TOTAL OF NINE -- [AUDIO DROP]
00:25:19 -- REQUIRED.
00:25:19 NORTH LOIS AVENUE AND WEST CYPRESS STREET ARE BOTH
00:25:22 DESIGNATED AS PRIORITY PEDESTRIAN STREETS.
00:25:25 THE LOT ITSELF CONTAINS 10,567 SQUARE FEET OR .24 ACRES,
00:25:31 AND THE SETBACKS ARE NORTH 15 FEET WITH 10 FEET FOR A
00:25:36 CARPORT AND ACCESSORY, SOUTH 10 FEET, EAST 5 FEET, WEST
00:25:40 10 FEET.
00:25:41 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 35 FEET AND A
00:25:44 TOTAL OF SEVEN PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND SEVEN
00:25:48 PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
00:25:50 NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF
00:25:53 THE PROPERTY.
00:25:54 I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
00:25:56 TO GIVE REFERENCE TO THE AREA AGAIN, AS DAVID POINTED
00:26:05 OUT, HERE IS NORTH LOIS AND WEST CYPRESS.
00:26:07 IT IS AT THE CORNER RIGHT HERE OUTLINED IN RED.
00:26:11 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN IN REFERENCE TO THE SETBACKS AND
00:26:16 THE ACTUAL EXISTING STRUCTURE AND WHERE THE PARKING IS
00:26:19 BEING LOCATED.
00:26:22 AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
00:26:25 THE APPLICATION AND WE FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
00:26:27 THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
00:26:29 URBAN DESIGN HAS OBJECTIONS TO WAIVER NUMBER ONE FOR THE
00:26:32 REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED SIDEWALK WIDTH ON CYPRESS AND
00:26:35 LOIS, WHILE NATURAL RESOURCES HAS OBJECTIONS TO WAIVER
00:26:38 NUMBER NINE FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED VUA
00:26:41 LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG LOIS AS IT RELATES TO THE
00:26:44 WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND NATURAL RESOURCE
00:26:46 STANDARDS.
00:26:47 PLEASE REFER TO PAGE THREE AND FOUR OF THE STAFF REPORT
00:26:49 FOR URBAN DESIGN AND NATURAL RESOURCES FINDINGS.
00:26:52 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
00:26:54 APPLICATION, THE WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REVISED
00:26:58 REVISION SHEET, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO THE
00:27:01 SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE
00:27:03 ORDINANCE.
00:27:04 I'LL JUST SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THE SURROUNDING AREA REAL
00:27:07 QUICK.
00:27:08 4155.
00:27:09 THIS IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
00:27:10 THIS WOULD BE THE LOT NEXT DOOR THAT'S PART OF THIS
00:27:14 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
00:27:15 IT WAS A BUSY INTERSECTION, SO I TRIED TO GET THE BEST I
00:27:19 COULD.
00:27:20 DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, 4144 GRAY STREET.
00:27:23 4138, THE GAS STATION IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH.
00:27:27 THIS IS THE EAST NEIGHBOR, 4127.
00:27:29 THIS IS THE LOIS AND CYPRESS INTERSECTION.
00:27:32 THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD BE RIGHT HERE.
00:27:36 AND THIS IS JUST LOOKING EAST ON CYPRESS.
00:27:39 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
00:27:41 SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, LET ME KNOW.
00:27:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
00:27:48 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
00:27:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS I LOOK AT THE WAIVERS ON THE STAFF
00:27:58 REPORT ON PAGE ONE THROUGH SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, ON PAGE
00:28:06 TWO, THEN I LOOK AT THE WAIVERS ON THE SITE PLAN, ONE
00:28:12 THROUGH EIGHT AND THEY DON'T SEEM TO STACK UP AND LINE UP
00:28:17 EXACTLY.
00:28:19 >> YOU'RE CORRECT.
00:28:20 UNDER MY FINDINGS, NUMBER ONE ON PAGE NUMBER TWO, UNDER
00:28:24 PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION SITE PLAN
00:28:26 MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
00:28:28 THE CORRECTIONS NEED TO BE MADE.
00:28:30 ONE AMEND THE WAIVERS AS LISTED ON PAGE ONE OF THE STAFF
00:28:33 REPORT.
00:28:34 YOUR STAFF REPORT IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING THE APPLICANT
00:28:36 PRESENT THE WAIVERS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, IF
00:28:39 IT'S APPROVED TONIGHT.
00:28:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU GUYS OBJECTED TO NUMBER NINE ON
00:28:46 YOUR OWN REPORT?
00:28:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: SPECIFICALLY, URBAN DESIGN AND NATURAL
00:28:49 RESOURCES HAD STANDING OBJECTIONS TO SOME OF THE WAIVERS.
00:28:53 WE DO HAVE NATURAL RESOURCES HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO
00:28:56 DISCUSS THAT FURTHER WITH THEM.
00:28:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT, I
00:29:00 MIGHT GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE WITH EVERYBODY UP HERE.
00:29:03 I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
00:29:07 I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW EMPHATIC THE CITY
00:29:10 ADMINISTRATION IS ABOUT THESE WAIVERS.
00:29:12 >>RYAN MANASSE: LET ME LET THE NATURAL RESOURCES SPEAK
00:29:15 REAL QUICK ON THAT, OKAY?
00:29:19 >> BILL BORIS WITH NATURAL RESOURCES.
00:29:23 OUR OBJECTION TO WAIVER NUMBER NINE OR NUMBER SIX.
00:29:27 NUMBER SIX ON THE SITE PLAN, NUMBER NINE ON THE MEMO, IS
00:29:31 THAT THE REQUIRED BUFFER IS SUPPOSED TO BE EIGHT FEET IN
00:29:35 WIDTH TO SOFTEN THE IMPACT OF THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT, THE
00:29:40 BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE CARS.
00:29:42 WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY WANT TO
00:29:46 DO TWO FEET.
00:29:47 WE CAN'T GROW A HEDGE IN TWO FEET.
00:29:50 WE NEED TO HAVE A HEDGE THERE.
00:29:51 WE NEED A SUSTAINABLE HEDGE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO
00:29:56 PREVENT AN URBAN DESERT LANDSCAPE.
00:29:58 WE WANT GREEN BUFFER TO SOFTEN THE IMPACT OF THE BUILT
00:30:03 DEVELOPMENT.
00:30:03 LIVABLE COMMUNITIES.
00:30:05 SO WE WERE WILLING TO TAKE THE REQUIRED EIGHT FOOT PER
00:30:10 CODE AND GO DOWN TO FOUR FOOT IN WIDTH FOR THE BUFFER
00:30:15 ALONG LOIS.
00:30:16 THAT'S WHAT THAT WAIVER LANGUAGE IS ALL ABOUT.
00:30:21 WE'RE KIND OF SERIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO
00:30:26 SET PRECEDENT FOR SKINNY LITTLE TWO-FOOT BUFFERS THAT YOU
00:30:31 CAN'T SUSTAIN PLANT MATERIAL.
00:30:33 WE WANT TO GROW A HEDGE IN THERE.
00:30:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
00:30:38 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:30:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
00:30:40 NO.
00:30:41 APPLICANT?
00:30:44 >> I'LL SPEAK FIRST AND THEN STEVE AFTER ME.
00:30:46 WE'RE BOTH HERE.
00:30:47 GORDON SCHIFF.
00:30:51 ADDRESS IS 301 WEST PLATT STREET NUMBER 92 TAMPA,
00:30:55 FLORIDA.
00:30:58 I'M BOTH THE APPLICANT AND MY LAW FIRM IS THE OWNER OF
00:31:01 THIS PROPERTY, AND AS STAFF HAS SUMMARIZED, IT IS FOR A
00:31:06 PD ON THE EAST QUADRANT OF WEST CYPRESS AND LOIS.
00:31:11 I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE QUADRANT.
00:31:15 COMMERCIAL CORNER ON ALL FOUR CORNERS AND IT CONTINUES
00:31:19 EAST ON CYPRESS AND WEST ON CYPRESS AS WELL.
00:31:23 RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY WHICH ALLOWS UP
00:31:29 TO .5 F.A.R. FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
00:31:32 THIS IS PREDOMINANTLY A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AND MR.
00:31:38 MICHELINI WILL GET INTO SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THE
00:31:42 VARIANCE, VARIANCE REQUEST, WAIVER REQUEST, BUT THEY ARE
00:31:45 ALL JUSTIFIED AND SET FORTH IN THE APPLICATION.
00:31:49 I WILL STATE, THERE IS NO PRECEDENT.
00:31:52 THAT IS AN OVERUSED WORD SOMETIMES.
00:31:54 IN THIS CASE IT IS.
00:31:56 YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE WHY THERE IS
00:31:58 ONE SMALL AREA THAT IS A TWO-FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN OUR
00:32:04 PARKING AREA -- ONE PARKING SPACE AND THE SIDEWALK.
00:32:07 BUT I'LL LET MR. MICHELINI GO INTO THAT.
00:32:11 WE BELIEVE WE'VE SHOWN THE WAIVERS ARE JUSTIFIED.
00:32:14 THE SITE PLAN WAS PREPARED BY ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING
00:32:20 CONSULTANTS, MICHAEL NOLAN, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND MR.
00:32:23 STEVE MICHELINI WAS OUR EXPERT PLANNING CONSULTANT.
00:32:27 AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN THE APPLICATION OVER TO MR.
00:32:30 MICHELINI AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
00:32:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING GORDON
00:32:37 SCHIFF.
00:32:38 FIRST, WE HAVE THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
00:32:40 ONE FROM THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ONE FROM THE
00:32:43 WESTSHORE ALLIANCE, AND ONE FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY
00:32:48 OWNER TO THE WEST.
00:32:55 I'LL HAND THESE TO JIM.
00:32:57 YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF
00:33:06 OBJECTIONS, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PD CRITERIA AND
00:33:10 DEMONSTRATE IN A MANNER THAT WE MEET THE CRITERIA.
00:33:13 I'LL READ OFF WHAT THE CRITERIA.
00:33:16 ALLOW THE INTEGRATION OF DIFFERENT LAND USES AND
00:33:19 DENSITIES THAT WOULD NORMALLY -- THAT WOULD NOT NORMALLY
00:33:21 BE ALLOWED.
00:33:22 THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 20, AND THIS IS AN ADAPTIVE REUSE
00:33:27 PROJECT, WHICH I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPH OF WHAT
00:33:34 WE'RE CONVERTING.
00:33:35 IT'S REALLY AN EYESORE AND HAS BEEN AN EYESORE FOR A LONG
00:33:40 TIME.
00:33:41 AND MR. SCHIFF IS GOING IN AND CONVERTING THAT INTO HIS
00:33:45 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
00:33:46 SO THAT BUILDING WILL BE RENOVATED AND IT WILL BECOME A
00:33:50 MUCH BETTER STRUCTURE AND MORE PLEASING TO THE EYE THAN
00:33:56 IT CURRENTLY IS.
00:33:58 ANYWAY, THE SECOND CRITERIA IS PROCEDURE WHICH RELATE TO
00:34:02 TYPE, DESIGN, SCALE, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO THE
00:34:06 PROJECT.
00:34:06 YOU HAVE THREE OF THE FOUR CORNERS THAT ARE DEVELOPED IN
00:34:10 COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.
00:34:12 THE SOUTH CORNER IS A GAS STATION.
00:34:15 THE SOUTHWEST CORNER IS A HIGH-RISE OFFICE BUILDING.
00:34:20 THE NORTHWEST CORNER IS A PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS, AND THEN
00:34:25 ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
00:34:29 WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHANGING NEEDS IN TECHNOLOGY
00:34:32 AND ECONOMICS OF CONSUMER PREFERENCES.
00:34:34 THIS IS A SMALLER TRACT OF LAND BUT IT DOES FOLLOW THE
00:34:38 CHALLENGING NEEDS OF TECHNOLOGY.
00:34:39 THE STRUCTURE WAS ONCE PRESUMABLY A VIABLE SINGLE-FAMILY
00:34:44 RESIDENCE BUILT IN 1962.
00:34:46 THAT VIABILITY HAS LONG SINCE PASSED.
00:34:48 THREE OUT OF THE FOUR CORNERS ARE NOW COMMERCIAL USES.
00:34:52 THIS IS THE LAST REMAINING UNDERUTILIZED PARCEL.
00:34:56 OUR INTENTION IS REDEVELOP AS ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT FOR
00:35:00 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
00:35:01 ENCOURAGE FLEXIBLE LAND DEVELOPMENT WHICH REDUCES
00:35:05 TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, CONSERVES ENERGY AND PRESERVES
00:35:09 NATURAL RESOURCES.
00:35:10 WE'RE DOING THAT BY USING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND
00:35:13 USING THE EXISTING SITE.
00:35:14 WE ARE CONVERTING THE ACCESS FROM CYPRESS ONTO LOIS.
00:35:18 AND ONE OF THE WAIVERS RELATES TO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION
00:35:21 BETWEEN THE CORNER OF LOIS AND CYPRESS.
00:35:25 WE ARE RESTRICTED BY THE DEPTH OF THE SITE AND WE HAVE
00:35:28 MOVED THE ACCESS POINT AS FAR TO THE NORTH AS POSSIBLE.
00:35:31 PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT AND APPROPRIATE
00:35:35 LOCATION FOR CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY.
00:35:38 PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL ON ALL
00:35:42 THREE SIDES AND ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE SPECIFIC USES
00:35:44 THERE.
00:35:45 THE STAFF REFERENCED THEM AS WELL.
00:35:48 STRUCTURAL, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND ELEMENTS THAT
00:35:51 COMPLEMENT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
00:35:53 USING EXISTING STRUCTURE AND MODERNIZING IT, BRINGING IT
00:35:57 UP TO DATE AND CLEANING UP THE SITE, WE ARE, IN FACT,
00:36:00 IMPROVING THAT CORNER, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE'VE MET THAT
00:36:03 CRITERIA.
00:36:04 PROMOTE THE RETENTION AND REUSE.
00:36:06 WE ARE REUSING EXISTING STRUCTURE.
00:36:08 THIS IS NOT A BRAND-NEW BUILDING.
00:36:10 THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY SOME OF THE WAIVERS THAT RELATE
00:36:12 TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE USING EXISTING STRUCTURES, AN
00:36:17 EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE SITE INSTEAD OF BUILDING NEW
00:36:20 AND DEMOLISHING IT.
00:36:22 NOW, THE WAIVER CRITERIA, DESIGN IS UNIQUE.
00:36:25 IT USES AN EXISTING STRUCTURE AND IT'S ADAPTED AND
00:36:28 IMPROVES THE STRUCTURE ON THE SITE CURRENT TO CODE.
00:36:31 THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT IS MET FOR 27136.
00:36:37 WAIVERS REQUESTED WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF
00:36:39 OTHERS.
00:36:40 REQUESTED WAIVERS ARE EITHER DUE TO EXISTING SITE
00:36:43 CONDITIONS OR CONDITIONS BEYOND THE CONTROL OF THE
00:36:44 PROPERTY OWNER.
00:36:45 ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO MITIGATE THOSE TO THE
00:36:47 FULLEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.
00:36:49 WAIVERS ARE IN HARMONY AND SERVES THE GENERAL INTENT OF
00:36:53 THE CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
00:36:55 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAKS TO USING MATERIALS, USING
00:36:59 STRUCTURES AND SITES AND ADAPTING THEM TO NEW USES WHEN
00:37:03 IT'S POSSIBLE AND PRACTICAL.
00:37:04 AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN THIS CASE.
00:37:06 ALLOWING THE WAIVERS WILL RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE
00:37:10 BEING DONE, AND WE BELIEVE THAT ONCE I SHOW YOU THROUGH
00:37:14 THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND EXHIBITS I'M ABOUT TO PRESENT THAT
00:37:17 YOU WILL SEE THAT CLEARLY THESE WAIVERS ARE NOT FROM
00:37:19 ANYTHING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS DONE BUT RATHER
00:37:23 BECAUSE THE EXISTING SITE CONDITIONS.
00:37:25 IS THAT IS SITE PLAN THAT'S CALLED EXHIBIT A.
00:37:40 AND THIS RELATES TO -- THIS IS JUST A REDUCTION OF OUR
00:37:45 EXISTING PROPOSED SITE PLAN, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS
00:37:48 YELLOW AREA RIGHT HERE, THIS IS AN ENCROACHMENT BY THE
00:37:52 CITY THAT MADE IMPROVEMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT
00:37:55 PERMISSION, WITHOUT AN EASEMENT, AND WITHOUT ANY KIND OF
00:37:59 AGREEMENT WHATSOEVER.
00:38:01 AND YOU'LL NOTICE -- AND I'LL SHOW YOU A DETAIL OF THIS.
00:38:05 BUT YOU NOTICE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THESE TWO PARKING
00:38:10 SPACES AND THAT ENCROACHMENT AND IT'S ABOUT TWO FEET.
00:38:13 THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT WAIVER FROM NATURAL
00:38:16 RESOURCES.
00:38:17 THIS IS EXHIBIT B, WHICH ALSO SHOWS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
00:38:23 WERE MADE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, AGAIN, WITHOUT ANY
00:38:28 PERMISSIONS, WITHOUT ANY EASEMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS, AND IT
00:38:31 WAS PROBABLY DONE WITH THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER
00:38:35 WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE AS WELL.
00:38:36 THIS IS EXHIBIT C.
00:38:42 THIS SHOWS YOU THE DIMENSIONS OF HOW FAR THOSE
00:38:44 ENCROACHMENTS GO INTO THE SITE.
00:38:46 9 FEET, 3 INCHES FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE.
00:38:49 THIS HEAVY BLACK LINE IS OUR PROPERTY LINE.
00:38:52 7.9 FEET TO THE EDGE OF WHERE WE'RE SHOWING THE PARKING
00:38:56 STALL.
00:38:57 5.6 FEET TO THE EDGE OF WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING A TWO-FOOT
00:39:02 BUFFER, AND THEN YOU SEE EVERYTHING IN RED THERE AND THE
00:39:06 PURPLE DOWN HERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS AND ENCROACHMENTS ONTO
00:39:09 OUR PROPERTY, WHICH CAUSE US SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS.
00:39:14 THEY MAKE SOME OF THESE WAIVERS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT THEM.
00:39:19 IT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO MEET.
00:39:22 I'LL SHOW YOU THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT THOSE REALLY LOOK
00:39:26 LIKE.
00:39:26 THIS IS THE CONTROL STRUCTURE PARTIALLY ON OUR PROPERTY.
00:39:35 THIS POWER POLE IS ON OUR PROPERTY.
00:39:37 THIS ENTIRE SIDEWALK AROUND HERE IS ON OUR PROPERTY.
00:39:40 IF YOU NOTICE, THERE IS A DISTANCE BETWEEN THE EDGE OF
00:39:43 THAT SIDEWALK AND THE EDGE OF THE CURB.
00:39:47 IF THE CITY WANTED TO REMOVE THEIR IMPROVEMENTS, WE'D
00:39:51 HAVE NO PROBLEM MEETING THE FOUR FEET, MAYBE MORE.
00:39:54 THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT SAME SECTION WHERE ALL OF
00:39:57 THE SIDEWALK HERE, THE BENCH, THIS SIDEWALK HERE, THE
00:40:02 CONTROL BOX, THE CORNER OF THIS CONTROL BOX, THE POWER
00:40:06 POLE, AND THEN AS YOU SEE THE SIDEWALK GOING THAT
00:40:10 DIRECTION.
00:40:10 THIS IS A CLOSE-UP OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC
00:40:17 CONTROL BOX.
00:40:18 IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL SEE A MANHOLE COVER.
00:40:22 THAT MANHOLE COVER AND ALL OF THAT SIDEWALK IS ON OUR
00:40:27 PROPERTY.
00:40:27 UNDERNEATH THAT MANHOLE COVER IS A VAULT THAT HAS ALL
00:40:31 KINDS OF CITY TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.
00:40:35 IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER FOR THE CITY TO
00:40:39 REMOVE ALL OF THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR US
00:40:42 TO BE PENALIZED BECAUSE IT'S THERE EITHER.
00:40:45 YOU KNOW, IT SIMPLY IS A CATCH-22 SITUATION WHERE WE'RE
00:40:50 NOT GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE BEING
00:40:53 PENALIZED AND BEING ASKED, WE'RE NOT MEETING THE WAIVER,
00:41:02 NOT OBJECTING TO THE WAIVER.
00:41:03 YOU GET THE POINT.
00:41:04 ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT.
00:41:06 WE BELIEVE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.
00:41:08 WE MET ALL THE CODE CRITERIA, QUITE HONESTLY.
00:41:11 WE'VE ALSO DEMONSTRATED TO THE STAFF.
00:41:13 WE'VE SHOWN THEM LANDSCAPE AREAS THAT ARE TWO FEET IN
00:41:19 WIDTH AND THAT ARE VIABLE AND THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN
00:41:22 OTHER AREAS.
00:41:24 THIS IS ANOTHER AREA.
00:41:26 THIS IS A PARKING LOT DOWNTOWN, TWO FEET.
00:41:30 THE DINNERS IS, OURS WILL BE -- THE DIFFERENCE IS OURS
00:41:34 WILL BE IRRIGATED.
00:41:35 WON'T BE DEAD AND FULL OF MULCH LIKE THIS.
00:41:38 BUT THESE ARE TWO FEET IN WIDTH.
00:41:40 IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS DISCUSSION, WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO
00:41:46 THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT AND SAID, OKAY, WHAT DO YOU
00:41:48 WANT TO DO?
00:41:49 DO YOU WANT TO MOVE ALL THE STUFF OR REACH SOME OTHER
00:41:53 TYPE OF AGREEMENT?
00:41:54 WE ALSO DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
00:41:57 AND WE'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT THE CITY WILL BE DOING
00:41:59 SOMETHING TO ASSIST US IN THIS REGARD.
00:42:01 HOWEVER, I'M ASKING TO YOU ACCEPT THE WAIVERS THAT WE
00:42:06 HAVE PLACED ON THE SITE PLAN, TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
00:42:10 IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
00:42:11 IT INVOLVES A LOT OF REINVESTMENT IN THIS AREA, AND IT
00:42:15 WILL BE A MUCH BETTER SITE WHEN WE'RE FINISHED.
00:42:19 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
00:42:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW IT'S LATE, I'M GOING TO ASK THE
00:42:26 ADMINISTRATION, IS WHAT MR. MICHELINI FACTUAL IN
00:42:32 REFERENCE TO WHAT HE'S JUST SHOWN ON THOSE PHOTOS AS IT
00:42:35 RELATES TO THAT MANHOLE COVER, THE BOX THERE AND THE
00:42:39 ENCROACHMENT ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY BY THE CITY?
00:42:43 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS.
00:42:46 I SPOKE WITH JOHN FERNANDEZ THIS WEEK AND HE ADVISED ME
00:42:49 THAT THE CITY IS NEGOTIATING THE PURCHASE OF AN EASEMENT
00:42:52 FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH RESPECT TO THOSE
00:42:54 IMPROVEMENTS.
00:43:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOLLOW ON QUESTION AS WELL.
00:43:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
00:43:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROCEDURALLY, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH
00:43:09 US MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS IN LIGHT OF NEGOTIATIONS?
00:43:14 I MEAN, REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS?
00:43:18 IT MAKES ME A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE, WHAT MR. MICHELINI
00:43:23 HAS POINTED OUT IN TERMS OF PROPERTY RIGHTS AND ALL THAT
00:43:27 KIND OF STUFF.
00:43:27 AND THEN, IF I LOOK DOWN AT THE CORNER OF THE NOTES, IT
00:43:35 SAYS THE SIDEWALK EASEMENT WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY
00:43:38 TO MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
00:43:42 THAT'S KIND OF IN LIGHT ALL THIS, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH
00:43:48 US MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS?
00:43:49 >>CATE WELLS: I CAN'T PREDICT WHEN THE TRANSACTION IS
00:43:54 GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
00:43:56 THAT'S OUT OF MY CONTROL.
00:43:58 BUT WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU SHOWS WHERE THE PROPERTY
00:44:00 LINE CURRENTLY IS.
00:44:02 THEY ARE SHOWING WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS LOCATED, AND THE
00:44:05 INTENT IS FOR THE SIDEWALK AND ALL THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS
00:44:08 WITHIN THE SIDEWALK, THAT THE CITY WOULD PURCHASE AN
00:44:11 EASEMENT OVER THAT.
00:44:14 BUT WHETHER THAT TRANSACTION OCCURS TODAY OR TWO MONTHS
00:44:18 FROM NOW, THE SITE IS GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY AS WHAT THEY
00:44:21 ARE SHOWING YOU.
00:44:23 SO THE DECISION THIS EVENING IS WITH RESPECT TO WHERE THE
00:44:29 PROPERTY LINE CURRENTLY IS AND THE BUFFERS BEING
00:44:31 PROPOSED, THE WAIVERS BEING PROPOSED, WHETHER THAT MEETS
00:44:34 YOUR CRITERIA IN THE CODE.
00:44:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION.
00:44:42 I'M SORRY.
00:44:42 MR. SCHIFF, THIS CORNER OBVIOUSLY HAD TO HAVE BEEN THE
00:44:46 SUBJECT OF A CONDEMNATION AT SOME POINT AND SOMEBODY, THE
00:44:51 CITY OR THE COUNTY OR SOMEBODY MUST HAVE WIDENED THAT
00:44:55 THING TO MAKE IT FOUR LANES TO PUSH ALL THIS BACK.
00:44:58 ARE WE FAMILIAR WITH WHEN THAT CONDEMNATION OCCURRED?
00:45:03 >> I'M NOT AWARE, MR. DINGFELDER, OF ANY EVIDENCE
00:45:07 SUPPORTING THAT A CONDEMNATION OCCURRED WITH RESPECT TO
00:45:09 WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS ENCROACH.
00:45:11 IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN JUST AN ENCROACHMENT THAT
00:45:15 SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
00:45:16 BUT WE NOW HAVE IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT.
00:45:19 WE'RE SOLVING THE CITY'S PROBLEM IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE
00:45:22 DOING.
00:45:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT SAYING THE CONDEMNATION
00:45:25 JUSTIFIED THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE ITEMS.
00:45:27 BUT I'M SAYING LOGIC WOULD SAY THAT 30, 40 YEARS AGO,
00:45:32 THIS WAS PROBABLY TWO-LANE STREETS COMING TOGETHER, AND
00:45:36 NOW IT'S FOUR-LANE STREETS COMING TOGETHER.
00:45:38 AT SOME POINT THE CITY MUST HAVE WIDENED IT AND PUSHED
00:45:45 BACK THAT CORNER.
00:45:49 >> AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE TO THAT EFFECT.
00:45:50 I RECOGNIZE THAT THE LOGIC YOU'RE PUTTING FORWARD MAKES
00:45:53 SENSE.
00:45:55 EVEN IF THAT OCCURRED, THE ISSUE BEFORE THE COUNCIL IS
00:46:00 THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, IN PARTICULAR, A WAIVER BETWEEN
00:46:03 THE SIDEWALK THAT ENCROACHES ON THIS PROPERTY AND OUR
00:46:07 PARKING LOT.
00:46:08 WE DID NOT CAUSE THE PROBLEM, AND IF THE SIDEWALK WERE IN
00:46:12 THE RIGHT PLACE, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT A
00:46:15 WAIVER.
00:46:16 WE SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZED BY HOPEFULLY IT WAS A MISTAKE.
00:46:21 WE THINK IT WAS A MISTAKE BY THE CITY, BUT THIS CAN BE
00:46:25 SOLVED.
00:46:26 AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, COUNCILMAN, IN SOLVING THE
00:46:29 PROBLEM.
00:46:29 THE FIRST STEP IS RECOGNIZING THE PROBLEM AND ALSO WE'VE
00:46:34 DEVELOPED A SITE PLAN THAT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE
00:46:37 PROBLEM.
00:46:38 BUT WE NEED SOME RELIEF TO DO SO, WHICH INCLUDES A LITTLE
00:46:42 BIT, IN A VERY SHORT AREA, ABOUT NINE OR TWELVE FEET, A
00:46:46 TWO-FOOT STRIP OF BUSHES, AND MR. MICHELINI, OF COURSE,
00:46:52 HAS GIVEN YOU AMPLE EVIDENCE THAT IN OTHER CASES THE CITY
00:46:56 HAS ALLOWED THAT IN OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THERE WASN'T A
00:46:59 PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED LIKE THIS.
00:47:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY BIGGER CONCERN IS THE NOTE AT THE
00:47:05 END.
00:47:05 IT SAYS, A SIDEWALK EASEMENT WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY
00:47:07 TO MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
00:47:09 THAT IMPLIES TO ME THAT THAT'S FREE FROM YOU AS THE
00:47:14 PETITIONER, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING I THINK FROM MS. WELLS
00:47:17 IS IT MIGHT NOT BE SO FREE.
00:47:20 IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT LANGUAGE AT THE
00:47:25 BOTTOM?
00:47:26 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I THINK THE PROBLEM, MR. DINGFELDER,
00:47:29 INITIALLY THEY THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A SIDEWALK, AND THEN
00:47:32 WHEN WE GOT INTO IT AND THE SURVEYOR WENT OUT AND
00:47:35 IDENTIFIED OTHER STRUCTURES AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS,
00:47:39 INCLUDING THE VAULT UNDERNEATH THAT MANHOLE COVER, THEN
00:47:43 IT BECAME A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE.
00:47:45 WE WILL BE CORRECTING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, I BELIEVE,
00:47:51 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
00:47:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BETTER CORRECT IT TONIGHT AS WE GO
00:47:56 FORWARD.
00:47:58 >> DO YOU WANT IT STRICKEN?
00:48:01 >> THAT WAS PROPOSED AS AN EASEMENT WHEN WE THOUGHT IT
00:48:03 WAS A SIDEWALK.
00:48:04 WHEN WE LEARN IT WAS A VAULT IT BECOMES FRANKLY ALMOST AN
00:48:08 IMPOSSIBLE ISSUE TO GIVE JUST AN EASEMENT.
00:48:10 THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING THE FEE, WHICH SOLVES
00:48:14 THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THEIR VAULT SHOULD BE ON THE CITY'S
00:48:17 PROPERTY.
00:48:17 SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN BETWEEN FIRST AND
00:48:20 SECOND READING.
00:48:21 THERE WOULD BE A NOTE TO THE EFFECT THAT THE CITY MAY
00:48:27 ACQUIRE THE AREA OF THE ENCROACHMENT.
00:48:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I JUST INQUIRE OF STAFF, IS THAT
00:48:34 WRITTEN OUT?
00:48:35 BECAUSE THERE IS A REVISION SHEET?
00:48:37 IS THIS A REVISION NOW BEING CONTEMPLATED ALREADY
00:48:41 INCLUDED IN THAT REVISION SHEET?
00:48:46 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN.
00:48:49 THAT IS NOT ON THE REVISION SHEET.
00:48:51 WE WOULD REQUEST THAT IF WE DO ANYTHING TO THAT NOTE, WE
00:48:54 NEED TO KEEP IT ON THERE, BUT MAYBE PUT IF NECESSARY AT
00:48:57 THE BEGINNING OF THE NOTE.
00:48:59 IF THE SALE DOESN'T GO THROUGH, WE STILL NEED TO HAVE
00:49:01 THAT LANGUAGE ON THERE THAT'S VERY TYPICAL FOR SIDEWALKS
00:49:04 ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY AND
00:49:07 EASEMENT GRANTED.
00:49:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE IF WE'RE
00:49:14 SAYING THE CITY IS NEGOTIATING AN ISSUE.
00:49:18 GOT PHOTOGRAPHS OF OTHER AREAS WHO HAVE THIS TWO FOOT AND
00:49:23 THEY ARE SAYING THEY CAN'T HAVE IT OVER HERE, WE'VE
00:49:27 ENCROACHED ON THEIR PROPERTY, I'M A LITTLE UNEASY FOR THE
00:49:31 VOTE BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE UNSETTLED ISSUES.
00:49:36 I JUST SEE A FEW ISSUES HERE.
00:49:39 LEGAL IS HERE, BUT I JUST FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.
00:49:43 >> COUNCIL, THE ONLY REASON THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT
00:49:47 ANXIOUS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD OR EAGER TO MOVE FORWARD IS
00:49:52 BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS NOW BEEN DELAYED ALMOST SIX
00:49:56 MONTHS.
00:49:56 AND WE NEED SOME CLOSURE AT LEAST MOVING FORWARD.
00:50:01 IF THERE IS A REFERENCE THERE THAT WE WILL COOPERATE WITH
00:50:04 THE CITY TO PROVIDE A REASONABLE SOLUTION REGARDING THE
00:50:08 ENCROACHMENTS, THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER LANGUAGE TO INSERT
00:50:14 ON THE SITE PLAN.
00:50:15 THE CITY IS WILLING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM, AND WE'RE
00:50:18 WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO DO THAT, BUT IF WE GET HELD
00:50:22 UP NOW, THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE YOU WOULD
00:50:26 BE IN JULY, SIGNIFICANT DELAY FOR US.
00:50:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
00:50:37 >>BILL CARLSON: MS. WELLS, JUST TO FOLLOW ON THAT, I HAVE
00:50:41 SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS AND
00:50:45 WE'RE GOING TO PLAY OUR HAND BEFORE THE NEGOTIATIONS.
00:50:50 DOES THE CITY NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO US PROCEEDING
00:50:53 THEN?
00:50:53 THE CITY DOESN'T THINK THAT IT AFFECTS THE NEGOTIATION?
00:50:58 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
00:51:01 WHEN I SPOKE WITH JOHN FERNANDEZ IN THE CITY'S REAL
00:51:04 ESTATE DEPARTMENT, HE CONFIRMED THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN
00:51:06 OBJECTION TO THIS MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
00:51:08 HE WAS AWARE THAT THE REZONING WAS BEING CONSIDERED THIS
00:51:11 EVENING.
00:51:11 HE COULDN'T CONFIRM FOR ME WHEN THE TRANSACTION WOULD BE
00:51:17 FULLY NEGOTIATED AND PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR
00:51:20 APPROVAL.
00:51:21 BUT I WILL SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD THAT THE PROPOSED SITE
00:51:24 PLAN IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
00:51:29 THEY IDENTIFIED THE AREA TO BE PURCHASED BY THE CITY.
00:51:33 WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, HOW THEY ARE PROPOSING TO
00:51:37 REDEVELOP THE SITE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE FROM WHAT IS
00:51:41 SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN THIS EVENING.
00:51:43 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT LEADS TO MY SECOND QUESTION WHICH IS
00:51:46 IF THE CITY HAD ALREADY PURCHASED IT, WOULD THAT CHANGE
00:51:51 THE WAY WE WERE LOOKING AT IT TONIGHT?
00:51:53 >>CATE WELLS: I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
00:51:54 YOU WOULD STILL BE LOOKING AT THE EXACT SAME WAIVERS THAT
00:51:57 THEY ARE REQUESTING RIGHT NOW.
00:52:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
00:52:04 >> JUST, COUNCIL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH
00:52:06 THE STAFF SINCE WE FIRST REALIZED THAT ALL OF THESE
00:52:09 ENCROACHMENTS WERE ON OUR PROPERTY.
00:52:11 WE'VE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH THE CITY LEGAL STAFF,
00:52:17 CATE WELLS, AND ALSO WITH JOHN FERNANDEZ AND HIS OFFICE
00:52:21 AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE
00:52:25 FORWARD.
00:52:26 BUT I GUESS THE REAL ISSUE THAT WE'RE FACING WITH YOU
00:52:29 TONIGHT IS WE SHOULDN'T BE PENALIZED WITH AN OBJECTION TO
00:52:37 THOSE WAIVERS THAT WERE NOT CREATED BY US.
00:52:39 THE HARDSHIP THERE IS IT WASN'T SELF-CREATED.
00:52:42 IT WAS THRUST UPON US BY OTHERS.
00:52:46 SO ANYWAY, WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL
00:52:50 FOR THIS SITE PLAN, AND I THINK THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD
00:52:53 CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON THAT LAST PART ABOUT THE SIDEWALK
00:52:57 EASEMENT AND JUST INDICATE THAT WE WILL COOPERATE WITH
00:53:00 THE CITY IN RESOLVING THE CURRENT EXISTING ENCROACHMENTS.
00:53:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:53:11 >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
00:53:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
00:53:13 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
00:53:16 ITEM?
00:53:16 ANYTHING ELSE?
00:53:22 ANY REBUTTAL, ANY RESPONSE?
00:53:29 >>CATE WELLS: ARE WITH REGARD TO THE WAIVER FOR THE
00:53:33 EIGHT-FOOT BUFFER ALONG LOIS WHERE THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO
00:53:36 FEET, STAFF WAS REQUESTING FOUR FEET.
00:53:38 AND THE REASON FOR THE COMPROMISE THAT STAFF WAS WILLING
00:53:41 TO ACCEPT IS THEY FELT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A
00:53:44 RECONFIGURATION TO THE PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD ALLOW
00:53:47 THEN FOR THE FOUR-FOOT BUFFER.
00:53:49 I'LL ALLOW STAFF TO ADDRESS THAT.
00:53:51 BUT IT WASN'T JUST THIS VEHEMENT OBJECTION AND UNWILLING
00:53:55 TO COMPROMISE.
00:53:57 THEY WERE WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND FEEL THAT A TWO-FOOT
00:54:00 HEDGE IS NOT GOING TO BE VIABLE.
00:54:02 WITH THE WAY THE PARKING IS PROPOSED TO BE DESIGNED, THEY
00:54:05 FELT THAT THERE WAS SOME ROOM FOR COMPROMISE THERE THAT
00:54:08 WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE APPLICANT'S GOAL AS WELL AS PROVIDE
00:54:16 ENOUGH ROOM FOR A VIABLE HEDGE.
00:54:18 THANK YOU.
00:54:22 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
00:54:24 IN ORDER TO GET THAT TWO FEET THAT THEY ARE GETTING, THEY
00:54:27 CAN SHORTEN ONE OF THEIR PARKING SPACES FROM 18 FEET TO
00:54:31 16 FEET.
00:54:33 THAT WILL SOLVE THE WHOLE ISSUE THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING
00:54:42 ABOUT.
00:54:42 IT'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM.
00:54:45 THANK YOU.
00:54:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MICHELINI, ARE YOU WILLING TO
00:54:55 COMPROMISE AND WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO RESOLVE THIS
00:54:55 ISSUE?
00:54:57 >> NO, SIR.
00:54:57 LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY.
00:54:59 THIS AREA BACKS UP TO THE HANDICAP SPACE, AND WHAT THEY
00:55:08 ARE ASKING US TO DO IS TO REDUCE THE DRIVE AISLE FROM 24
00:55:12 FEET, WHICH IS THE CITY STANDARD, TO 22 FEET TO SHIFT
00:55:14 THIS OVER, AND THEN WE COMPROMISE THE MANEUVERABILITY OF
00:55:18 THAT HANDICAP SPACE.
00:55:19 WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH
00:55:22 HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY.
00:55:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STEVE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT'S
00:55:27 NOT WHAT THEY SAID.
00:55:28 I THINK WHAT JONATHAN SAID WAS YOU CAN SHORTEN UP THE TWO
00:55:31 SPACES FROM 18 FEET TO 16 FEET TO BUY A LITTLE MORE SPACE
00:55:35 ON YOUR WEST SIDE.
00:55:37 I DON'T BELIEVE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ENCROACHING IN THE
00:55:43 DRIVE AISLE.
00:55:44 I THINK ALL HE SAID WAS YOU CAN SHORTEN UP THOSE TWO
00:55:47 PARKING SPACES FROM 18 TO 16.
00:55:50 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, THAT'S
00:55:53 ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
00:55:54 EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
00:55:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT'S SIMPLER THAN WHAT YOU
00:55:59 SAID, STEVE.
00:56:00 >> UP UNTIL NOW THE ONLY DISCUSSION WAS TO REDUCE THE
00:56:03 WIDTH OF THE DRIVE AISLE.
00:56:10 THAT'S UP TO MR. SCHIFF.
00:56:11 IT'S HIS PROPERTY.
00:56:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 16-FOOT SPACE INSTEAD OF 18-FOOT
00:56:15 SPACE.
00:56:15 >> THAT ALSO WOULD REQUIRE WIDENING IT, RIGHT?
00:56:20 YOU HAVE TO WIDEN THE SPACE BECAUSE IT MAKES IT
00:56:23 ESSENTIALLY A COMPACT SPACE.
00:56:26 >> YOU CAN JUST CHANGE IT FROM 18 FEET TO 16 FEET THOSE
00:56:30 TWO WESTERN SPACES.
00:56:33 IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A COMPACT SPACE WHICH WOULD MEET
00:56:36 CODE.
00:56:41 >> THAT'S MR. SCHIFF'S CALL.
00:56:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE COMPROMISE.
00:56:47 >> I'LL ANSWER TWO WAYS.
00:56:49 ONE IS WE'RE DEALING WITH A REDUCED DISTANCE ONLY BECAUSE
00:56:56 THE SIDEWALK ENCROACHES.
00:56:57 THE ONLY ANSWER IS, WE'LL DO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT IT WILL
00:57:01 TAKE TO GET COUNCIL COMFORTABLE WITH THE SITE PLAN.
00:57:04 WE'RE NOT ONLY BEING PENALIZED AND BEING TOLD BECAUSE
00:57:07 REALLY UNDER YOUR CODE YOU SHOULD BE MEASURING EVERYTHING
00:57:10 FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, NOT FROM AN ENCROACHMENT.
00:57:13 BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO TREAT YOUR ENCROACHMENT AS LEGAL
00:57:16 AND TAKE IT AND THEN REQUIRE US TO MOVE OUR PARKING OR
00:57:23 SHORTEN OUR SPACES TWO FEET TO MAKE A WIDER AREA FOR
00:57:28 BUSHES, WE WILL BE WILLING TO DO THAT IF THAT CHANGE
00:57:28 NEEDS TO BE MADE --
00:57:30 >> LET ME BRING YOU BACK TO THE ENCROACHMENT DIAGRAM.
00:57:34 THAT'S EIGHT FEET.
00:57:36 THEY HAVE TAKEN 5.6 FEET ALREADY WITH THAT SIDEWALK.
00:57:39 IF YOU ADDED THE 2.3, YOU'RE AT 7 FEET, 9 INCHES.
00:57:45 THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE BUFFER EASILY.
00:57:53 >> THE BUFFER WOULD BE THERE IF YOUR SIDEWALK WAS NOT
00:57:55 ENCROACHING ON OUR PROPERTY.
00:57:58 IF COUNCIL IS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH US PUTTING FOUR FEET
00:58:01 OF SPACE BETWEEN THAT PARKING SPACE AND THE ENCROACHING
00:58:05 SIDEWALK, WE'LL AGREE TO THAT.
00:58:07 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TWO SPACES OR ONE SPACE.
00:58:15 >> THERE'S TWO.
00:58:15 >> I WILL SAY, MR. DINGFELDER.
00:58:18 MOST OF MY CLIENTS HAPPEN TO BE DEVELOPERS OR REAL ESTATE
00:58:22 LANDOWNERS, AND THEY DON'T ALL DRIVE SMALL CARS.
00:58:27 WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAD ADEQUATE PARKING FOR
00:58:30 OUR CLIENTS.
00:58:31 BUT WE'LL BE WILLING TO SHRINK THOSE TWO SPACES TO 16
00:58:36 FEET IN LENGTH IF THAT'S WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE
00:58:39 COUNCIL COMFORTABLE WITH THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE
00:58:41 ENCROACHMENT --
00:58:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVE ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR SPACES.
00:58:45 IT'S NOT YOUR ONLY SPACE.
00:58:48 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
00:58:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
00:58:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M JUST THINKING, THOSE ROAD AT ONE
00:58:53 TIMES, BOTH CYPRESS AND LOIS WERE TWO LANE.
00:58:56 I DON'T KNOW, IT MIGHT BE THE CITY.
00:58:59 BUT IT ALSO MIGHT BE WHEN THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY CAME
00:59:02 THROUGH AND WE HAD TO WIDEN THE ROAD.
00:59:04 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PAID FOR IT OR WE PAID FOR IT,
00:59:07 SOMEBODY HAD TO DO SOMETHING.
00:59:09 I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT.
00:59:10 MIGHT EVEN GO BACK TO THE '60s.
00:59:15 THAT CORNER WAS SHAVED NOT ONCE BUT I THINK AT LEAST
00:59:19 TWICE.
00:59:30 >> IT HAD TO BE A SMALLER ROAD AT SOME POINT.
00:59:33 WE KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A
00:59:35 PROBLEM.
00:59:35 WE FEEL THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD SOLUTION.
00:59:37 WE'LL MAKE SURE THE IMPROVEMENTS THE CITY PUT IN OR THAT
00:59:40 THE CITY OWNS ARE EVENTUALLY ON CITY PROPERTY.
00:59:43 THAT'S WHAT THIS SOLUTION IS.
00:59:45 BUT THE LOGIC IS THERE FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
00:59:49 COUNCILMAN.
00:59:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT GOES BACK WHERE THAT TWO-STORY, THE
00:59:52 TALL BUILDING, YOU SAID THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THAT WAS
00:59:55 LIKE A NIGHTCLUB, HOTEL/MOTEL FROM ONE OF THE FAIR
01:00:00 CONCESSIONAIRES WAY BACK.
01:00:02 >> WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID MAKING THE CITY MAKE ANY
01:00:09 IMPROVEMENTS.
01:00:10 THEY COULD VERY EASILY GIVE US THE TWO FEET, CUT THE
01:00:12 SIDEWALK, AND MOVE IT BACK ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.
01:00:14 WE HAVE THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT THEY HAVE.
01:00:16 THEY ARE PUTTING THE HARDSHIP ON US INSTEAD OF DEALING
01:00:19 WITH IT.
01:00:19 BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE SELLING THEM THE PROPERTY.
01:00:23 WE WERE VERY COOPERATIVE WITH THEM ABOUT THAT.
01:00:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:00:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S A REALLY
01:00:30 INTERESTING CASE STUDY.
01:00:31 I'VE ONLY BEEN ON A YEAR, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING
01:00:34 LIKE THIS, MR. MICHELINI?
01:00:36 >> NOT TO THIS EXTENT.
01:00:39 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE MISTAKE, BUT I
01:00:41 FEEL SOMEHOW COMPELLED TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
01:00:44 WHATEVER IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE THAT RIGHT.
01:00:48 >> JUST ONE THING, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THIS IS
01:00:51 A VERY, VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.
01:00:52 >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T BELIEVE YOU AT FIRST AND THEN I
01:00:56 HEARD IT.
01:00:56 IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.
01:00:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:00:59 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
01:01:02 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:01:06 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:01:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:01:09 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
01:01:12 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CITRO.
01:01:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:01:16 COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED
01:01:20 TO THIS COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE IN FILE NUMBER REZ-20-12,
01:01:28 AN ORDINANCE -- I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
01:01:31 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
01:01:35 GENERAL VICINITY OF 4155 AND 4157 WEST CYPRESS IN THE
01:01:40 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
01:01:43 SECTION FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50,
01:01:47 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
01:01:50 OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
01:01:54 DATE.
01:01:54 I BELIEVE THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF
01:01:58 BECAUSE OF THE UNDUE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE NOT CAUSED
01:02:01 BY THEM, INCLUDING WAIVERS AND SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS
01:02:08 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
01:02:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST IF I COULD, HAVE FOR THE RECORD,
01:02:15 JUST RESOLVE WHAT IS THE DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO THE
01:02:20 SITE PLAN FOR THE BUFFER.
01:02:22 >> IF I COULD, MR. SHELBY.
01:02:24 IT WOULD BE IN REFERENCE TO WAIVER NUMBER 9.
01:02:28 I BELIEVE IT WAS DISCUSSED.
01:02:30 EIGHT FOOT TO TWO AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT IT
01:02:33 APPEARS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE OKAY WITH THE EIGHT
01:02:35 FOOT TO FOUR FEET, WHICH OUR NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT
01:02:39 WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT WAIVER THEN.
01:02:40 IF WE COULD JUST CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD ON THE
01:02:43 REVISIONS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL ITEM.
01:02:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DULY NOTED.
01:02:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALSO THE TRANSPORTATION NOTE, MR.
01:02:54 MICHELINI INDICATED SOME APPROPRIATE MODIFICATION ON THAT
01:02:58 LANGUAGE.
01:02:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
01:03:00 CITRO WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:03:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:03:04 ANY OPPOSED?
01:03:06 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:03:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
01:03:09 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16 AT
01:03:12 9:30 A.M.
01:03:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:03:15 ITEM NUMBER 14, THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
01:03:19
01:03:19 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:03:23 REZ 20-19 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1015 EAST HILLSBOROUGH
01:03:27 AVENUE AND 918 THROUGH 926 EAST GIDDENS AVENUE FROM SH
01:03:33 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
01:03:36 GENERAL, RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-IN, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS
01:03:42 GOODS, AND BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
01:03:45 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD MORNING.
01:03:48 DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
01:03:50 THIS LAST CASE IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
01:03:53 DISTRICT.
01:04:00 MORE SPECIFICALLY THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:04:01 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A DEVELOPMENT AT HAS A .58
01:04:07 FLOOR AREA RATIO WELL UNDER THE INTENSITY THAT CAN BE
01:04:11 CONSIDERED UNDER THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35th LAND
01:04:14 USE DESIGNATION.
01:04:15 THAT'S THE RED COLOR ON THE MAP.
01:04:16 THEY PROVIDED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO HILLSBOROUGH
01:04:22 AVENUE WHICH IS AN IDENTIFIED TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
01:04:25 IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SUPPORTS
01:04:28 MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT
01:04:30 RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY'S MIXED USE
01:04:33 CORRIDORS.
01:04:34 AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING
01:04:36 COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDS TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THE
01:04:39 ZONING REQUEST BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040
01:04:43 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
01:04:44 THANK YOU.
01:04:44 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
01:04:52 COORDINATION.
01:04:53 AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE 1000 BLOCK OF EAST
01:04:58 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:05:03 I'LL SHOW YOU THE LOCATION MAP.
01:05:05 HERE IS HILLSBOROUGH.
01:05:09 THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU.
01:05:10 HERE IS HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:05:12 HERE IS NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
01:05:15 AND THEN GIDDENS IS TO THE SOUTH.
01:05:17 REALLY, THIS LOT IS DOUBLE FRONTAGE LOT.
01:05:21 IT'S CURRENTLY A CAR DEALERSHIP, AND EITHER VACANT LOT OR
01:05:24 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT.
01:05:30 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING -- THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING
01:05:38 A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-IN WINDOW AS WELL AS BUSINESS
01:05:42 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL USES.
01:05:44 SPECIFICALLY A 3,000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT.
01:05:48 THIS IS A DUAL-LANE DRIVE-IN WINDOW, 1500 SQUARE FEET OF
01:05:54 OFFICE AND TRAINING CENTER BUILDING FOR THE CORPORATION
01:05:58 ITSELF, AND THEN 7400 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING WITH A
01:06:01 3,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE SUITE AND RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS
01:06:06 GOODS, SUITES, 1200, 1200 AND 1500 SQUARE FEET TOTAL,
01:06:11 1.52 ACRES AND LOCATED AS I JUST SHOWED YOU TWO LOTS TO
01:06:15 THE EAST OF HILLSBOROUGH, EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, NORTH
01:06:20 NEBRASKA AVENUE INTERSECTION.
01:06:23 LET ME SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH
01:06:25 THE WAIVERS.
01:06:33 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
01:06:37 DUAL CURB CUT ONTO EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AS WELL AS
01:06:41 ONTO GIDDENS AVENUE.
01:06:43 AS I STATED, THIS IS IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS DISTRICT.
01:06:47 ONE OF THE CRITERIA OF THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS DISTRICT
01:06:48 WHICH IS 27.211-12-J IS THAT LOCAL STREET ACCESS WHICH
01:06:55 GIDDENS IS CONSIDERED A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET, FROM AN
01:06:58 ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR CANNOT BE MORE THAN 100 FEET FROM
01:07:03 THE ARTERIAL OF NEBRASKA, IT IS 400 FEET AS OPPOSED TO
01:07:08 THE 100-FOOT REQUIREMENT.
01:07:09 SO THAT IS THE FIRST WAIVER THAT THE APPLICANT IS
01:07:12 REQUESTING.
01:07:14 HERE IS WHERE THE DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT WOULD BE.
01:07:18 IT WILL BE A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT WITH DUAL DRIVE-IN
01:07:22 WINDOWS, AND THIS IS THE QUEUING LANE HERE.
01:07:25 IT WILL QUEUE THROUGH HERE, GO UP TO THE WINDOW TO ORDER,
01:07:28 AND THEN HERE IS THE PICKUP AND EXIT EITHER ONTO
01:07:32 HILLSBOROUGH OR BACK TO GIDDENS.
01:07:33 THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING SOME OFFICE AND RETAIL SPACE
01:07:36 HERE.
01:07:36 AND THEN A SEPARATE OFFICE USE WHICH WILL BE FOR THE
01:07:40 CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS OFFICE FOR THE RESTAURANT ITSELF.
01:07:45 THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH ALL REQUIRED PARKING.
01:07:50 BASED ON THE COMBINED USES -- SORRY.
01:07:57 THERE ARE SOME CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
01:07:59 FROM PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:08:02 URBAN DESIGN DID REVIEW THIS FOR CONSISTENCY.
01:08:05 THEY DID FIND IT INCONSISTENCY BASED ON THE WAIVER TO THE
01:08:10 SOUTH HERE.
01:08:12 I'M SORRY, TO THE SOUTH OF THE 15-FOOT REQUIRED LANDSCAPE
01:08:17 BUFFER AND THE APPLICANT IS GOING -- THAT'S THE REASON
01:08:21 FOR THE CONSISTENT FINDING FROM URBAN DESIGN.
01:08:25 TRANSPORTATION HAS SOME CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
01:08:28 READING.
01:08:28 THEY DID FIND IT ALSO INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE
01:08:31 DISTANCE OF THE DRIVEWAY FROM THE ARTERIAL.
01:08:34 AGAIN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 100 FEET AND THEY
01:08:37 ARE PROPOSING 400 FEET.
01:08:43 AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND SOLID WASTE FOUND IT
01:08:46 CONSISTENT -- OR, NO.
01:08:49 NATURAL RESOURCES AND SOLID WASTE HAVE SITE PLAN
01:08:55 MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AS WELL
01:08:58 AS THERE IS AN INCONSISTENCY AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF
01:09:03 ADEQUATE SPACE FOR THE 15-FOOT BUFFER TO THE SOUTH WITH
01:09:08 THE PROPOSED 10 FEET.
01:09:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS NEXT TO MY FAMILY BUSINESS, AND
01:09:30 I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.
01:09:33 I THINK I NEED TO EXCUSE MYSELF.
01:09:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THAT BASIS, YOU ARE GOING TO ABSTAIN
01:09:39 AND I WILL PREPARE THAT PAPERWORK ON THE BASIS OF THE
01:09:45 RELATIONSHIP --
01:09:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S CORRECT.
01:09:54 THANK YOU.
01:09:56 BEFORE WE CONTINUE, THIS PARTICULAR FILE DOES HAVE
01:10:05 COMMUNICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED.
01:10:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY MR. VIERA WITH A SECOND BY
01:10:16 COUNCILMAN CARL SOP.
01:10:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:10:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:10:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: OKAY.
01:10:22 THANK YOU.
01:10:25 IF I CAN CONTINUE OUR PRESENTATION.
01:10:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
01:10:28 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
01:10:29 I DID NOTE IN THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGES 4 AND 5, YOU CAN
01:10:32 FIND THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA.
01:10:34 I WILL NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE
01:10:42 DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT.
01:10:44 OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT, STAFF DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT
01:10:47 BECAUSE OF THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION AS WELL AS NATURAL
01:10:49 RESOURCES AND URBAN DESIGN REGARDING TO THE PARKING LOT
01:10:54 SETBACK TO THE SOUTH.
01:10:56 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?
01:10:58 >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
01:11:01 NO?
01:11:02 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:11:07 ALL RIGHT.
01:11:08 APPLICANT.
01:11:08 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
01:11:15 GOOD MORNING, I SHOULD SAY.
01:11:17 MICHAEL HORNER, 14502 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY TAMPA
01:11:23 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER, SALEM GHARSALLI,
01:11:29 LAST NAME H-O-R-N-E-R.
01:11:32 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
01:11:34 SYCAMORE ENGINEERING WILL BE ASSISTING ME IN THE
01:11:37 PRESENTATION.
01:11:38 ALSO MARK SWALLOW IS HERE, HE'S THE LAND BROKER AND AGENT
01:11:43 FOR MR. GHARSALLI.
01:11:46 COUNCIL, I KNOW IT'S LATE.
01:11:47 WE HAVE A FEW WAIVERS AND NEED TO ADDRESS THE SITE PLAN
01:11:50 AND WHY WE ARE REQUESTING WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
01:11:54 FIRST, LET ME JUST SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH
01:11:57 STAFF.
01:11:57 WE HAVE WORKED OVER THE LAST FIVE, SIX MONTHS WITH BOTH
01:12:01 MARY SAMANIEGO AND DAVID HEY.
01:12:03 WE APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
01:12:05 WE APPRECIATE THEIR TIME, THEIR EFFORTS OF MAKING THIS
01:12:08 THE BEST PROJECT IT CAN BE.
01:12:09 WE ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:12:11 THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
01:12:13 THEY ARE HERE.
01:12:14 WE SPENT EVEN MORE TIME THIS EVENING OUT IN THE LOBBY
01:12:18 SPEAKING WITH THEM FURTHER.
01:12:19 WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, FOLLOW-UP DIALOGUE,
01:12:23 UNFORTUNATELY AFTER OUR FIRST MEETING, THE COVID-19
01:12:27 CRISIS HIT AND THAT STOPPED OUR MEETINGS ONE ON ONE OF
01:12:29 THE BUT WE HAVE MAINTAINED A CONTINUOUS DIALOGUE WITH
01:12:32 THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
01:12:35 THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
01:12:37 THEY ADVISED US HOW THEY FELT AND ASKED US TO WORK WITH
01:12:40 THEM.
01:12:41 AND MY CLIENT AND OUR TEAM HAVE REALLY BENT OVER
01:12:44 BACKWARDS TO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THIS THE
01:12:47 MOST COMPATIBLE PROJECT EVER.
01:12:49 I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU RECEIVED A LETTER, IN E-MAIL FORM,
01:12:54 FROM THE PRESIDENT ELLIE BAGUETTE WHO WAS HERE THIS
01:12:58 EVENING.
01:12:59 SHE WAS HERE TILL ABOUT 9:00.
01:13:01 SHE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
01:13:03 CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
01:13:05 AND PART OF THAT LETTER, AND WE WILL FILE IT IN THE
01:13:08 RECORD AS WELL, SHE INDICATED SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
01:13:11 CIVIC ASSOCIATION HAS NO OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION
01:13:14 AND LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER COOPERATION.
01:13:18 WITH MR. GHARSALLI.
01:13:22 THE COMP PLAN, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS IN DAVID HEY'S REPORT
01:13:26 BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
01:13:28 THIS PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY IN THE CC 35 PLAN.
01:13:32 THE COMMUNITY 35 PLAN SECTOR IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSIVE
01:13:36 PLAN SECTORS YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:13:39 WE ARE 1.52 ACRES.
01:13:41 WE ARE DIRECTLY SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
01:13:43 WE EXTEND TO GIDDENS AVENUE ON THE SOUTH.
01:13:46 CC 35 EXTENDS TO THE WEST, TO THE NORTH ACROSS
01:13:49 HILLSBOROUGH AND TO THE EAST AS WELL FOR THE ENTIRE
01:13:52 CORRIDOR OF EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:13:55 AND CC PA PLANNED SECTOR, THE F.A.R. RANGES FROM 1.0 BY
01:14:01 RIGHT UP TO 2.0 WITH BONUS DENSITY CREDITS.
01:14:06 YOU HAVE TO BUY THOSE CREDITS BUT IT'S STILL AN
01:14:08 OPPORTUNITY IN THE CC 35.
01:14:09 WHAT DOES THAT MANY?
01:14:10 IT MEANS THE SITE COULD ACCOMMODATE ANYWHERE FROM 66,000
01:14:14 SQUARE FEET TO 133,000 SQUARE FEET.
01:14:18 WE ARE PROPOSING 11,900 SQUARE FEET.
01:14:22 YOU HEARD MR. HEY TELL YOU, IN OUR F.A.R. FLOOR AREA
01:14:28 RATIO IS ONLY 0.18.
01:14:31 AS STATED ON PAGE 2, WELL BELOW THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY.
01:14:35 HE ALSO STATED THAT THE END OF HIS CONCLUSION FINDING
01:14:38 THAT THIS PD SUPPORTS PLANNED POLICIES OF THE VISION PLAN
01:14:45 AND ALSO EXHIBITS CONDITIONS CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT
01:14:50 PATTERN FOR CC 35 PLANNED SECTOR.
01:14:55 ON THE ZONING SIDE, COUNCIL, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
01:14:58 TO RECOGNIZE THIS IS ALL ZONED COMMERCIAL.
01:15:01 WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL ON THIS SITE.
01:15:05 THE ENTIRE AUTO DEALERSHIP MY CLIENT PURCHASED ON THE
01:15:09 SOUTH SIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, SACI, ONE OF THE MOST
01:15:15 INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:15:17 THE LOTS AND THE HOUSES ALONG GIDDENS AVENUE ARE ALL
01:15:21 ZONED SH-CG.
01:15:24 THAT ZONING DISTRICT EXISTS TODAY.
01:15:26 THOSE HOUSES COULD BE CONVERTED TO BUSINESSES, OR THE
01:15:31 BUSINESS COULD HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS WITH
01:15:34 NO RESTRICTIONS, NO HEIGHT LIMITATIONS BEYOND THE CG
01:15:38 CONDITIONS OF RECORD, OF A EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT.
01:15:41 ALL THOSE LOTS, FIVE OF THEM, HAVE THOSE RIGHTS CURRENTLY
01:15:45 EXISTING.
01:15:46 SO WHAT OUR CLIENT IS DOING IS TAKING SIX LOTS, TWO
01:15:49 DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, AND UNIFYING IT INTO ONE
01:15:52 PLAN.
01:15:53 ALL THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS ALLOW THE CURRENT USE, AND WE
01:15:57 HAVE A COUPLE OF WAIVERS FOR MY CLIENT TO GO THROUGH,
01:16:00 VERY DETAILED, VERY EXPENSIVE LAND ACQUISITION PROCESS.
01:16:05 ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS IS TO HAVE A 50-FOOT SEPARATION
01:16:07 BETWEEN A DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOW LANE, A SQUAWK BOX.
01:16:13 MY CLIENT PAID WAY OVER MARKET FOR THOSE LOTS TO MAKE
01:16:16 THIS A UNIFIED PLAN THAT WORKS.
01:16:19 HE PAID UP WORDS OF 200 TO $300,000 FOR SOME OF THOSE
01:16:22 LOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
01:16:24 NORTH SIDE OF GIDDENS, SOUTH SIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH.
01:16:28 SO MY CLIENT IS PROBABLY INTO THIS FOR APPROXIMATELY 2
01:16:31 MILLION IN LAND AND ANOTHER 2 MILLION PROPOSED FOR
01:16:34 OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
01:16:36 WILLING TO PUT IN THE MONEY BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR FAMILY
01:16:38 SHOWCASE. THIS IS THE FAMILY FLAGSHIP FOR THEIR BUSINESS
01:16:43 OPERATIONS AND THEIR HEADQUARTERS.
01:16:45 IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR TRAINING FACILITY.
01:16:48 THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS IN DIRE NEED OF REHABILITATION.
01:16:51 AND MY CLIENT IS WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY AND CERTAINLY
01:16:55 THE TIME AND HAS REACHED OUT TO NEIGHBORS, I THINK AS
01:16:58 RECENT AS LAST WEEKEND AND MONDAY AND TUESDAY SPEAKING
01:17:01 WITH THE NEIGHBORS ONE ON ONE.
01:17:03 WITH THAT IN MIND ONGOING BATTLE, IT'S NOT BEEN EASY.
01:17:09 AS RECENT AS OVER THIS WEEKEND ONE OF THE NEWER
01:17:12 NEIGHBORS, HER MOTHER CONTACTED MY CELL PHONE AND SAID
01:17:18 THERE IS SOMEBODY BREAKING INTO THE HOUSE ACROSS THE
01:17:21 STREET.
01:17:21 THE HOUSE WAS BOARDED UP.
01:17:23 AND HE MOVED ALL THE BOARD, SNUCK IN THE WINDOW.
01:17:25 HE TRADE TO HOT WIRE THE ELECTRIC STOVE, CALLED THE
01:17:29 POLICE.
01:17:30 WE THEN CALLED OUR CLIENT.
01:17:32 CLIENT MET THE POLICE OUT THERE MONEY AND TUESDAY.
01:17:35 REBOARDED OUT, KICKED THEM OUT, EVICTED THEM.
01:17:38 IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING SECURITY ISSUE AND WE HOPE TO HAVE
01:17:42 THAT RESOLVED SHORTLY.
01:17:45 MY CLIENT WILL MOVE IMMEDIATELY INTO RAZZING THESE
01:17:50 NUISANCE STRUCTURES.
01:17:51 TWO
01:17:55 TO KEEP WATCH ON THE AREA.
01:17:57 THESE HOUSES ARE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. THIS IS NOT JUST THE
01:18:00 FIRST TIME.
01:18:01 IT'S ONGOING WITH THESE TRANSIENTS OUT THERE.
01:18:04 MY CLIENT IS PROPOSING ON THE SITE PLAN -- CAN WE HAVE
01:18:09 THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE?
01:18:13 FOUR BUILDINGS.
01:18:14 ACTUALLY THREE BUILDINGS, FOUR DIFFERENT USES.
01:18:18 TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS PROPOSED.
01:18:20 ONE IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY NORTH OF GIDDENS, TO
01:18:26 RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
01:18:28 THE OTHER OFFICE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE THE TRAINING
01:18:30 FACILITY.
01:18:31 THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS FOR MY
01:18:33 CLIENT.
01:18:33 THE OTHER OFFICE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THEIR
01:18:36 TRAINING HEADQUARTERS OR SCHOOL, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE
01:18:39 PROTOCOL, SERVICE, HOW THEY TRAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES,
01:18:43 FRANCHISEES, FLAG THOSE BUYERS OR OWNERS, NOW GO THROUGH
01:18:49 A TRAINING PROGRAM, THEY OBSERVE WHAT THE ARCHITECTURE
01:18:52 IS, THEY OBSERVE HOW THE FACILITY WORKS, HOW THE
01:18:56 RESTAURANT OPERATES, THE INTEREST THEY HAD IN MAINTAINING
01:19:00 PROTOCOL, QUALITY OF SERVICE.
01:19:02 SO NO SERVER MOVES FORWARD UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR
01:19:05 TRAINING COMPLETED AT THE CORPORATE LEVEL.
01:19:08 WE HAVE A RETAIL BUILDING, WHICH IS JUST NORTH.
01:19:14 MARK, YOU CAN NOTE THAT. THIS IS JUST NORTH OF THE
01:19:18 OFFICE BUILDING.
01:19:19 AND THIS RETAILS APPROXIMATELY 3900 SQUARE FEET.
01:19:22 IT HAS THREE RETAIL SPACES INTERNAL AND FACING NORTH AND
01:19:27 WEST.
01:19:29 THE RESTAURANT IS APPROXIMATELY 3500 SQUARE FEET.
01:19:34 DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT DOES NOT HAVE DOUBLE
01:19:39 DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOWS, BUT IT DOES HAVE A DOUBLE
01:19:42 DRIVE-THROUGH LANE.
01:19:44 MARK, YOU CAN POINT THAT OUT ON THE WESTERN SIDE.
01:19:47 SO WE HAVE EMERGING AT THE DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOW.
01:19:49 ONLY ONE DRIVE-THROUGH WIND-FOR THAT BUILDING.
01:19:52 WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING THREE ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE TABLES
01:19:56 SO PATRONS CAN SIT OUT THERE, ENJOY THEIR SANDWICH.
01:20:00 IT'S ALSO INSIDE THEY HAVE TAKEOUT BUSINESS AS WELL.
01:20:04 WE HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS MARY
01:20:06 NOTED.
01:20:07 ONE ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:20:08 THERE'S A DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE CHANNELIZED FOR
01:20:13 WESTBOUND, SOUTHBOUND TURNING MOVEMENT DIRECTLY INTO THE
01:20:15 SITE.
01:20:16 THAT'S WHY MY CLIENT DESIGNED THE SITE PLAN SO HE CAN
01:20:20 ACCOMMODATE THE IMMEDIATE LEFT TURN PROTECTED MOVEMENT
01:20:22 INTO THE SITE.
01:20:24 THE SITE EXIT IS ALSO FULL.
01:20:27 THAT'S TO GIDDENS.
01:20:28 WHILE WE DON'T PROJECT A LOT OF TRAFFIC UTILIZING THAT,
01:20:32 IT IS CRITICAL FOR THE CIRCULATION, EFFICIENCY AND
01:20:35 CONVENIENCE OF THEIR PATRONS TO GIVE THEM GIDDENS ACCESS.
01:20:38 WITHOUT THAT GIDDENS ACCESS DRIVEWAY, WE ADVISED THE
01:20:41 NEIGHBORS THAT OUR CLIENT CANNOT MOVE FORWARD.
01:20:44 IT'S A NECESSARY PART OF THE FUNCTION PLAN.
01:20:49 GIDDENS RUNS STRAIGHT WEST AND ALSO GOES DOWN TO 12th
01:20:53 STREET.
01:20:53 YOU CAN SHOW 10th STREET AND 12th STREET, MARK,
01:20:57 ON THE SITE PLAN, THE T-INTERSECTION.
01:21:00 THOSE ROADS GO TO NEBRASKA AND THOSE PEOPLE CAN TAKE A
01:21:03 PROTECTED LEFT TURN MOVEMENT TO GO WESTBOUND OR DANGEROUS
01:21:08 U TURNS OWN HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:21:10 COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE 16,000 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE
01:21:13 ON THIS SITE PLAN.
01:21:15 WE HAVE UNDERGROUND RETENTION AND VAULTS WITH SURFACE
01:21:20 POND.
01:21:20 WE HAVE A 10-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AROUND THE PERIMETER.
01:21:24 WE ALSO HAVE TREES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE, SOME
01:21:27 BEAUTIFUL TREES ON THE PERIMETER.
01:21:29 AND THEY ARE WE ARE ALSO OFFERING TREES...
01:21:35 FINALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE, AS I INDICATED, MET
01:21:39 WITH THE NEIGHBORS, CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE
01:21:42 LIGHTING.
01:21:42 WE PROPOSE A 6-FOOT-HIGH 100% OPAQUE PVC FENCE ON THE
01:21:49 SOUTH SIDE ALONG WITH THE BUFFER, ALONG WITH THE EDGING.
01:21:54 BUT AFTER FURTHER REVIEW WITH STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORS, WE
01:21:57 DECIDED TO OFFER THEM A 6-FOOT, TO THE ELEVATION, PLEASE,
01:22:02 MARK, A 6-FOOT CONCRETE WALL, DECORATIVE WALL WITH
01:22:07 DECORATIVE COLUMNS.
01:22:08 THAT WOULD BE RIGHT ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THIS
01:22:11 PROPERTY.
01:22:13 MY CLIENT IS ALSO PROPOSING TREES PER THE CITY'S
01:22:16 LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE.
01:22:17 INITIAL TREES OR PALM TREES.
01:22:19 I KNOW MY CLIENT LOVE PALM TREES BUT THEY DON'T OFFER A
01:22:23 LOT OF OPACITY.
01:22:24 SO WE ARE LEAVING THAT OPEN.
01:22:25 WE HOPE TO MAINTAIN THE DIALOGUE WITH THE RESIDENTS
01:22:29 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
01:22:31 BUT THAT ELEVATION IS WHAT WE ARE INTENDING TO PROVIDE,
01:22:35 WHICH IS 100% OPAQUE, SOLID, A GREAT DEAL OF NOISE
01:22:41 ABATEMENT AND LIGHT ABATEMENT AS WELL.
01:22:45 WE WILL HAVE SECURITY LIGHTING.
01:22:47 COUNCIL, WE WILL HAVE 24-HOYER VIDEO SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS
01:22:50 THROUGHOUT THIS SITE.
01:22:51 AND IT'S PRETTY DARK DURING THE NIGHTS.
01:22:55 THE CAR DEALERSHIP IS NOT VERY WELL LIT UP.
01:22:58 WE HAVE A NUMBER OF USES THAT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS FROM --
01:23:02 MARK, ONE OF THE AERIALS THAT SHOWED THE BUS ALMOST DUE
01:23:09 WEST OF OUR SITE.
01:23:10 AND THAT ACCESS GOES STRAIGHT FROM HILLSBOROUGH TO
01:23:13 GIDDENS.
01:23:17 PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY.
01:23:19 NOW WITH COAST BUSINESSES EVEN STARBUCK'S ARE PULLING
01:23:24 BACK THEIR HOURS BUT THOSE WERE 24 HOUR OPERATING
01:23:27 BUSINESSES PRIOR.
01:23:30 THE AUTO PART, WE HAVE THAT ON THE OVERHEAD.
01:23:33 THAT IS A DIRECT DRIVEWAY FROM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE TO
01:23:36 GIDDENS AS WELL.
01:23:37 AGAIN, PROPOSE A 5-FOOT SIDEWALK.
01:23:41 WE HAVE GIDDENS PARK CATTY-CORNER ON THE SOUTHEAST
01:23:44 CORNER.
01:23:44 BEAUTIFUL PARK.
01:23:48 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE TO WALK DOWN THE
01:23:51 STREET.
01:23:51 WHILE THERE ARE SPEED BUMPS THERE, IT'S NOT THE SAFEST
01:23:54 PLACE FOR PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND THEREFORE WE CERTAINLY
01:23:57 HAVE NO ISSUE BUILDING A 5-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.
01:24:04 OTHER ISSUES, THE ALIGNMENT OF THE GIDDENS DRIVEWAY.
01:24:12 THE AERIAL OF THE STREET.
01:24:15 SO WE INITIALLY HAD THIS DRIVEWAY A LITTLE FURTHER WEST.
01:24:19 WE WENT TO OUR CITY VRC MEETING, COMMITTEE REVIEW
01:24:25 COMMITTEE, AND STAFF SAID WE PREFER IF YOU DON'T HAVE
01:24:27 ACCESS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY FROM SOMEONE'S HOUSE,
01:24:31 BEDROOM, LIVING ROOM WINDOW, PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
01:24:34 PRIVACY.
01:24:35 WE ABSOLUTELY AGREED.
01:24:37 WE MOVED THAT DRIVEWAY JUST TO THE EAST.
01:24:39 CERTAINLY OUTSIDE OF NEBRASKA AVENUE BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT
01:24:42 BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF WE HAD COME CLOSE TO MEETING THAT.
01:24:46 BUT WE SHIFTED THAT DRIVEWAY AT GIDDENS TO ALIGN WITH
01:24:50 10th STREET.
01:24:52 9th STREET TO THE WEST.
01:24:53 WE HAVE 10th STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS THE FROM THE
01:24:57 SITE, MORE DIRECTLY ALIGNED TO 9th STREET.
01:25:02 NOTE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WHERE CARS WOULD BE COMING OUT.
01:25:05 WE HAVE ASKED FOR THE TWO WAIVERS RELATIVE TO THE ACCESS
01:25:09 TO GIDDENS.
01:25:10 THE 100-FOOT PROVISION.
01:25:11 WE SIMPLY CAN'T MAKE THAT AND MY CLIENT IS UNFORTUNATELY
01:25:15 IN POSITION TO RESTRICT GIDDENS DRIVE.
01:25:19 WE DON'T WANT TO SHIFT IT FURTHER WEST BECAUSE WE ARE
01:25:22 IMPACTING MORE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
01:25:23 BEYOND THAT, THERE IS A SLIGHT VEHICLE USE AREA WAIVER.
01:25:27 WE ARE SHY ABOUT 435 SQUARE FEET.
01:25:31 WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
01:25:35 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME BEFORE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR
01:25:38 SUPPORT IN THE SOUTHEAST CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
01:25:42 AND J.D. IS HERE TO ANSWER ENGINEERING QUESTIONS AS WELL.
01:25:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
01:25:51 MR. DINGFELDER.
01:25:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO QUESTIONS.
01:25:53 ONE OF STAFF.
01:25:55 THEY MAKE REFERENCE TO THE TACO -- WHAT IS IT CALLED,
01:26:04 TACO BUS?
01:26:05 AND THEY SHOWED A PICTURE OF A CUT THROUGH FROM
01:26:08 HILLSBOROUGH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GIDDENS.
01:26:10 A LOT OF DIRT.
01:26:12 IT'S SORT OF MAKESHIFT.
01:26:14 IS THAT A LEGAL CUT THROUGH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THERE?
01:26:17 IS THAT PROPERTY ALLOWED TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO
01:26:22 GIDDENS LIKE THAT?
01:26:24 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: FOR THE RECORD, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT
01:26:26 QUESTION.
01:26:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ON
01:26:31 THIS ONE?
01:26:32 >> CALVIN COOK.
01:26:38 IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN TO THAT BUT I BELIEVE
01:26:41 I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
01:26:43 I THINK IT IS A LEGAL ACCESS THEY HAVE THERE.
01:26:45 I THINK IT IS A LEGAL ACCESS.
01:26:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LEGAL OR ILLEGAL?
01:26:52 >> A LEGAL.
01:26:53 A LEGAL.
01:27:00 I HAVEN'T BEEN UP THERE IN A WHILE.
01:27:02 I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH
01:27:04 THERE.
01:27:08 YEAH.
01:27:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MR. HORNER, IS THERE ANYTHING TO
01:27:19 PREVENT YOUR DRIVE-THROUGH CUSTOMERS FROM USING GIDDENS
01:27:23 TO COME IN THE BOTTOM, AND THEN WIGGLE THEIR WAY UP TO,
01:27:31 WELL, AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU EVEN SHOW YOUR
01:27:34 DRIVE-THROUGH STARTS DOWN THERE AT GIDDENS.
01:27:38 ARGUABLY, IF YOU GET THAT MANY CUSTOMERS.
01:27:41 YOU ARE SHOWING A DOUBLE LANE DOWN THERE.
01:27:44 BUT TO ME, YOU ARE ALMOST ENCOURAGING TRAFFIC TO COME IN
01:27:49 AT GIDDENS ON THAT RESIDENTIAL STREET.
01:27:51 I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF SHOWED IT OR YOU SHOWED IT, BUT IT
01:27:56 APPEARS TO ME THAT RIGHT ACROSS GIDDENS, THERE'S THREE OR
01:28:02 FIVE OR FIVE VERY NICE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES SOME OF WHICH
01:28:06 ARE --
01:28:08 >> THIGHS SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
01:28:10 AND WE KNOW THOSE NEIGHBORS WELL.
01:28:12 WE TALKED TO THEM.
01:28:13 SO, YES, THAT MERGING OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE IS
01:28:17 CRITICAL BECAUSE THE ORIENTATION OF THE RESTAURANT WITH
01:28:19 THE ZERO SETBACK TO HILLSBOROUGH, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY
01:28:23 THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT MOVEMENT.
01:28:25 SO WE HAVE THE DUAL LANE THAT MERGES TO ONE LANE FOR
01:28:29 THAT.
01:28:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY NOT CLOSE OFF THE GIDDENS ACCESS
01:28:33 THERE AND JUST LET ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME THROUGH THE
01:28:37 RESTAURANT COME IN AND OUT THROUGH HILLSBOROUGH?
01:28:43 >>MICHAEL HORNER: GOOD QUESTION BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS
01:28:46 THE DESIRED TRAFFIC DESIRES ON THE WESTERN SIDE.
01:28:48 SO PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING WESTBOUND, THEY HAVE THE LEFT
01:28:51 TURN CHANNEL MOVEMENT, MR. DINGFELDER.
01:28:53 THOSE COMBING FROM EASTBOUND CAN MAKE THE RIGHT TURN.
01:28:56 THOSE THAT ARE GOING SOUTH OR SOUTHWEST IS THEIR TRAVEL
01:29:00 DESTINATIONS, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT GIDDENS
01:29:03 ACCESS.
01:29:04 IS IT A LOT OF TRAFFIC?
01:29:05 I THINK OUR TRAFFIC REPORT HAD LESS THAN 10%.
01:29:08 BUT IT'S CRITICAL FOR THAT SITUATION FOR CIRCULATION.
01:29:11 THOSE PEOPLE THEN GO STRAIGHT TO NEBRASKA.
01:29:14 THEY CAN THEN GO NORTH TO THE INTERSECTION FOR THE
01:29:17 PROTECTED LEFT TURN MOVEMENT OR CONTINUE SOUTH ON
01:29:20 NEBRASKA.
01:29:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER THAT
01:29:25 RIGHT NOW -- BUT GRANTED, THERE MIGHT BE SOME LIGHT
01:29:34 COMMERCIAL ACCESS TO EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
01:29:36 BUT THERE'S NOTHING ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES THAT
01:29:40 WOULD HAVE ALLOWED DRIVE-THROUGHS.
01:29:42 >>MICHAEL HORNER: I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
01:29:46 THE DRIVE THROUGH HAS TO MEET THE 50-FOOT SET BACK.
01:29:49 OUR POINT WAS THAT EACH OF THOSE LOTS UNDER INDIVIDUAL
01:29:52 OWNERSHIPS CAN HAVE A SEPARATE BUSINESS AND A SEPARATE
01:29:55 DRIVE WAY.
01:29:56 NOT THE RESTAURANT THAT'S PUSHING UP TO HILLSBOROUGH.
01:30:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY ENCOURAGED ME TO WAIT TO
01:30:06 MAKE UP MY MIND.
01:30:07 BUT THAT GIDDENS ENTRANCE CONCERNS ME.
01:30:10 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:30:10 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?
01:30:13 ALL RIGHT.
01:30:13 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:30:16 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEAS APPROACH
01:30:18 THE LECTERN.
01:30:21 STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT FOR THE RECORD.
01:30:23 >> HAVE YOU ALL BEEN SWORN IN?
01:30:35 IF YOU COULD STAND AND BE SWORN IN.
01:30:37 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
01:30:42 >> GOOD MORNING.
01:30:51 MY NAME IS JOY I LIVE AT 919 EAST GIDDENS SO I'M ON THE
01:30:59 CORNER OF GIDDENS AND 10th.
01:31:01 SO WE ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS NEW PROPOSAL.
01:31:05 WE'LL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE DRIVE-IN THEATER -- OR
01:31:10 SORRY, THE DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT.
01:31:12 SORRY.
01:31:13 I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY
01:31:18 IMPRESSED BY THE GENTLEMAN WORKING WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
01:31:23 THEY LISTENED TO ALL OF OUR CONCERNS AT OUR LAST MEETING
01:31:26 AND THE CHANGES THEY MADE HAVE BEEN AMAZING.
01:31:30 WE ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT THERE ON
01:31:33 GIDDENS FACING HILLSBOROUGH, TAKING OUT THOSE HOUSES, THE
01:31:37 SOUND AND THE NOISE, THE NOISE BARRIER AND THE LIGHT
01:31:41 BARRIER ARE GOING TO BE HORRIFIC FOR ALL OF US ON GIDDENS
01:31:45 AND THEY ADDRESSED IT WITH THE SOLID WALL WHICH WILL
01:31:48 HELP.
01:31:51 THE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE IS THAT THE TREES
01:31:54 THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED IN THE LANDSCAPING BE EVERY
01:31:59 GREEN STRESS, SO THAT WE HAVE A SOLID BARRIER, BECAUSE A
01:32:03 6-FOOT WALL AT OUR FRONT PORCH OR HOME WE CAN STILL LOOK
01:32:08 OVER THE WALL AND WE'LL LA DIRECTLY AT HIS RESTAURANT
01:32:11 THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN TILL 4 IN THE MORNING.
01:32:14 SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVERY GREEN LANDSCAPING THAT
01:32:18 WOULD BE TALLER THAN THE WALL TO HELP WITH THE BARRIER OF
01:32:22 THE VISUAL ALONG WITH THE SOUND BARRIER.
01:32:26 THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS IS THE THANK
01:32:30 YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE ENTRANCE ONTO GIDDENS AVENUE.
01:32:34 I KNOW ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF WHAT GOES ON
01:32:39 ON BAYSHORE WITH THE JOGGING AND CHILDREN AND PEOPLE
01:32:45 WALKING THEIR DOGS.
01:32:46 AFTER 17 YEARS OF BEING IN THAT HOME WE ARE NOW SEEING
01:32:49 THAT AS THE LAP AROUND GIDDENS -- AND IT'S REALLY
01:32:52 WONDERFUL TO BE SEE ALL THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE COME INTO
01:32:54 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY DO IT EVERY MORNING AND THEN
01:32:58 AT NIGHT AFTER WORK THEY DO THE LOOP AROUND GIDDENS PARK.
01:33:02 PART OF THE LOOP AROUND GIDDENS PARK IS 10th AVENUE
01:33:05 WHICH THEIR PROPOSAL IS GOING TO DUMP THEIR PEOPLE ONTO
01:33:08 10th AND THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, AND NO SIDEWALKS ON
01:33:11 THE BACK OF GIDDENS.
01:33:13 SO ALL OF THE FAMILIES WITH THEIR KIDS AND THEIR DOGS AND
01:33:16 EVERYTHING HAVE TO WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET TO DO
01:33:18 THE LOOP AROUND GIDDENS.
01:33:21 SO THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING
01:33:25 THROUGH THE DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT ARE GOING TO DUMP
01:33:29 RIGHT ONTO 10th AVENUE AND THEY ARE GOING TO -- IT'S
01:33:34 JUST A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT?
01:33:38 SO WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT PLAN.
01:33:42 AND YOU ASKED ABOUT TACO BUS.
01:33:46 THEY HAD A MEETING SET UP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, SENT OUT
01:33:51 THE NOTICES.
01:33:51 WE PREPARED OUR INSTRUCTIONS TO WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO
01:33:58 DO.
01:33:58 THEY WERE GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSES.
01:34:00 WE GOT TO A MEETING AND THERE WAS A SIGN ON THE DOOR
01:34:03 SAYING THE MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELED, WE'LL NOTIFY YOU.
01:34:07 TWO DAYS LATER THEY TORE DOWN THE HOUSES AND IT'S A DIRT
01:34:11 LOT.
01:34:11 AND THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN.
01:34:13 AND IT PREVENTED US FROM USING OUR FRONT PORCHES BECAUSE
01:34:16 THE DUST BOWL THAT HAS BEEN CREATED, OUR FRONT PORCHES
01:34:20 ARE COVERED WITH DIRT.
01:34:21 AND SO THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE OF COURSE FOR ANOTHER NIGHT.
01:34:25 BUT THAT'S TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
01:34:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:34:30 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
01:34:35 GO TO THE OTHER PODIUM, SIR.
01:34:37 >> I'M HAROLD MEDINA.
01:34:42 AND I'M AT 5204 NORTH 10th STREET.
01:34:46 AND SHE'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.
01:34:57 AND SO GIDDENS -- AND MY MAP IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR MAP
01:35:04 SO JUST BEAR WITH ME. THIS IS GIDDENS PARK.
01:35:07 THIS IS GIDDENS.
01:35:09 THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH.
01:35:11 THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT THEY PURCHASED.
01:35:15 AND THIS IS MY HOUSE.
01:35:17 THIS IS MY MIKE CATERA AND THEN JULIE ANN RICH ARE ON
01:35:25 THIS CORNER AND I DON'T THINK BRITTANY WAS HERE.
01:35:28 SHE'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF GIDDENS AND 10th.
01:35:36 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM NOTICING IS THAT BETWEEN TACO
01:35:40 BUS ON THE EXITS ONTO GIDDENS, YOU ALSO HAVE DOWN THE
01:35:45 STREET, FURTHER DOWN, IT WAS DOLLAR TREE.
01:35:49 FURTHER DOWN THERE'S A WALGREEN'S.
01:35:51 AND THEN WITH ALL THESE SPEED BUMPS IT LOOKS LIKE THAT
01:35:56 GIDDENS IS A FRONTAGE ROAD FOR HILLSBOROUGH, WHICH IS
01:36:00 WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID.
01:36:02 AND WE HAVE ALSO THE PARK THERE.
01:36:04 AND JUST LIKE MY NEIGHBOR SAID THAT PEOPLE -- AND I SEE
01:36:09 THIS EVERY DAY.
01:36:10 I HAVE BEEN WORKING HOME NOW THAT DUE TO COVID AND PEOPLE
01:36:15 ARE RUNNING AROUND THE PARK.
01:36:17 NEXT DOOR TO ME THEY BUILT THE NEW HOUSE AND A COUPLE
01:36:20 JUST MOVED IN.
01:36:21 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MET THEM.
01:36:23 AND THEY HAVE A PRE-K CHILD AS WELL.
01:36:26 SO MY CONCERN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE
01:36:29 RESTAURANT.
01:36:30 MY PROBLEM IS THAT IN AND OUT ONTO GIDDENS.
01:36:35 THE ENTRY EXIT ONTO GIDDENS IS MY ISSUE.
01:36:38 AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE MENTIONED WAS THE TRANSIENTS,
01:36:41 THE HOMELESS.
01:36:42 SO MY OTHER ISSUE IS, I LOOK AT THE POLICE REPORTS FROM
01:36:49 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND THE
01:36:52 MAIN THING THAT YOU SEE HERE IS TRIP TRAFFIC WHICH IS
01:37:00 WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:37:03 SO THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE REALLY DO NOT WANT.
01:37:07 AND I SEE THE TRANSIENTS LIKE IN THE PARK, AND THEN IF
01:37:11 THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE PARK, THROUGH THE BACKSIDE
01:37:14 ONTO HILLSBOROUGH IS WHAT I WANT TO AVOID.
01:37:17 ALSO, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, DOWNTOWN KNOW IF HOURS HAVE
01:37:21 CHANGED, THESE ARE THE INCIDENT REPORTS, THE TIMES THAT
01:37:28 THERE ARE INCIDENTS AT THE RESTAURANT AND IT'S BETWEEN
01:37:31 12 A.M. AND 4:15 A.M., THERE ARE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE
01:37:35 INCIDENTS THAN DURING THE REGULAR DAYTIME.
01:37:38 SO IT'S A 42 INSTANCES ON LOCATION UP ON FLETCHER.
01:37:44 SO MY MAIN ISSUE IS THAT WALL, I WOULD LIKE THE WALL TO
01:37:50 GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS, NOT JUST ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
01:37:55 AND I APPRECIATE, BY THE WAY, THE WALL.
01:37:58 I DO APPRECIATE THE WALL THAT'S GOING IN.
01:38:01 AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER LIKE SOFTER, I LIKE THAT YOU CAN'T
01:38:07 SEE THROUGH IT.
01:38:08 AND THE SIX FOOT.
01:38:09 AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE TREES AS WELL.
01:38:11 SO MINE IS NO ENTRY EXIT ONTO GIDDENS.
01:38:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:38:18 NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
01:38:19 >> GOOD MORNING.
01:38:26 MICHAEL CAVALA.
01:38:33 AND I WAS OVER HERE MENTIONING THAT EXIT OFF GIDDENS.
01:38:43 I LIVE RIGHT ON 10th.
01:38:46 JUST BASICALLY SECOND HOUSE, THIRD HOUSE FROM THE
01:38:50 ENTRANCE.
01:38:51 AND YES, THE CHILDREN, PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS, AND
01:38:58 10th SARASOTA FAIRLY SHORT ROAD.
01:39:01 FIVE HOUSES BASICALLY ON IT.
01:39:08 WE ALREADY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THAT
01:39:10 LITTLE STREET WITH PEOPLE FROM HILLSBOROUGH CUT THROUGH.
01:39:16 AND I JUST FEEL IT'S GOING TO BE A HAZARD TO THAT AREA,
01:39:22 THE STREET.
01:39:23 AND I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE THEY ARE DOING IS GREAT.
01:39:34 I DON'T MIND PUTTING A BUSINESS THERE BUT I'M OPPOSED TO
01:39:37 THE ENTRY EXIT ONTO GIDDENS.
01:39:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:39:40 NEXT SPEAKER.
01:39:41 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
01:39:47 MY NAME IS JADE, GAELYN-LEZAI.
01:39:58 I AM ONE OF THE NEWEST HOMEOWNERS ASIDE FROM THE COUPLE
01:40:01 THAT MOVED IN TODAY IN OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:40:04 AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE WHEREOF I
01:40:08 LIVE, I ACTUALLY LIVE BEHIND MICHAEL AND HIS WIFE, AND I
01:40:11 LIVE ON 9th STREET.
01:40:13 MY ADDRESS IS 5205-9th, IN FACT.
01:40:19 AND I CAN SEE THE OPENING TO AUTO ZONE AS WELL AS TACO
01:40:25 BUS FROM MY HOME, AND PEOPLE USE 9th STREET AS PRETTY
01:40:27 MUCH A THOROUGHFARE FROM THOSE TWO BUSINESSES TO GET OVER
01:40:32 BECAUSE IT'S AN EASIER WAY OUT TO NEBRASKA.
01:40:35 MY ISSUE HERE IS I AM NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSING THE
01:40:38 DEVELOPMENT.
01:40:38 I TOO HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE ENTRY ONTO 10th STREET.
01:40:42 AND MY CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT IT'S USED AS A SPEEDWAY.
01:40:49 A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT'S 275.
01:40:52 I RECENTLY IN RECENT WEEKS HAD TO STEP IN FRONT OF A CITY
01:40:56 VEHICLE AND YELL AT THEM TO SLOW THE BLEEP DOWN BECAUSE
01:40:59 THEY ARE DOING 45, 50 MILES AN HOUR IN A 35 ZONE.
01:41:03 I HAVE TAG NUMBERS IF YOU EVER CARE TO SEE ONE.
01:41:06 I WOULD LOVE TO RAT THEM OUT.
01:41:09 BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
01:41:10 THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT THERE IS A STOP SIGN AT THE END OF
01:41:13 FRIERSON AND 10th WHERE THIS RESTAURANT IS GOING TO
01:41:18 DUTCH INTO AND THERE'S NO CLEAR VISIBILITY ONTO FRIER
01:41:22 SEWN FROM 10 THOUGH 9th AND WITH PEOPLE FLYING AS
01:41:27 FAST AS THEY DO ON FRIERSON, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
01:41:30 ACCIDENTS.
01:41:31 AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE I
01:41:35 KNOW THE DEVELOPER HAS PAID A NICE LITTLE IMPACT FEE TO
01:41:39 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO DO
01:41:42 SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING DOWN FRIERSON AND
01:41:47 POSSIBLY PUT IN A STOP SIGN AS IT'S APPROACHING FROM
01:41:51 NEBRASKA TO HELP AVOID SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE
01:41:55 GOING TO SEE WITH THIS ENTRYWAY DUMPING ONTO 10th.
01:42:00 WE HAVE A BRAND NEW FAMILY THAT JUSTIFIED MOST IN THAT
01:42:03 HAS A SMALL TODDLER AND THEY LIVE RIGHT ON THAT CORNER.
01:42:06 I DON'T WANT TO BE -- I DON'T WANT TO BE A PERSON THAT
01:42:12 READS THAT THAT LITTLE BOY OR GIRL HAS BEEN HIT BY A CAR.
01:42:15 I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE ANYMORE.
01:42:17 SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS TRYING TO RECOVER FROM THE MURDERS
01:42:20 THAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO.
01:42:22 AND I HAD A BRAND NEW HOUSE BEING BUILT NEXT TO ME AND I
01:42:26 WOULD LOVE FOR THAT HOUSE TO SELL SO THAT MY PROPERTY
01:42:29 VALUE CAN GO UP AND IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE
01:42:32 FOR THAT HOUSE TO SELL AT THE PRAISE POINT THAT IT'S AT
01:42:35 IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO FREELY OPEN ONTO
01:42:39 GIDDENS, AND IF WE DON'T DO SOME TYPE OF TRAFFIC CALMING
01:42:42 WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:42:43 SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
01:42:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:42:45 I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO DEVELOPERS BECAUSE I THINK
01:42:48 THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF LISTENING TO WHAT THE
01:42:51 COMMUNITY SAID AND INCORPORATING SOME OF WHAT WE SAID
01:42:53 INTO THE CHANGES THAT THE THEY PROPOSED TONIGHT.
01:42:56 THANK YOU.
01:42:56 HAVE A GREAT MORNING.
01:42:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:42:59 >>BILL CARLSON: I FEEL COMPELLED TO SAY THIS.
01:43:02 IF YOU SEE CITY STAFF DRIVING INAPPROPRIATELY DOING
01:43:05 SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATELY, IF YOU GOOGLE TAMPA CITY
01:43:10 COUNCIL, YOU CAN E-MAIL ALL OF US STATEMENT AT THE SAME
01:43:12 TIME AND TELL US AND ONE OR ALL OF US WILL FORWARD IT TO
01:43:15 THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
01:43:16 THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
01:43:17 >> ABSOLUTELY.
01:43:18 AND I WILL GIVE YOU TAG NUMBERS, TOO.
01:43:20 >>BILL CARLSON: E-MAIL IT TO US TOMORROW OR THIS MORNING
01:43:24 WHEN YOU GET HOME.
01:43:25 THE OTHER THING, I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY IN COUNCILMAN
01:43:28 GUDES' DISTRICT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM
01:43:30 WE CAN'T MEET TOGETHER, BUT AT LEAST ONE OF US COULD
01:43:34 INTERFACE WITH CITY STAFF, EITHER PARKS OR
01:43:37 TRANSPORTATION, AND COME OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
01:43:40 HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.
01:43:43 UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY IS RUNNING SHORT ON BUDGET RIGHT
01:43:47 NOW BECAUSE OF COAST.
01:43:49 WE ARE ABOUT $21 MILLION SHORT AND IT LOOKS LIKE
01:43:54 TRANSPORTATION -- BUT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO GET AS SOON
01:44:00 AS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS IN THAT BUDGET OR THE PLAN.
01:44:05 >> AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I AM AN URBAN PLANNER.
01:44:09 SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN MY
01:44:12 NEIGHBORHOOD ARE VERY MUCH DIRECTLY IMPACT ME, AND I KNOW
01:44:17 HOW THINGS CAN WORK PROPERLY.
01:44:21 AND YES, I DO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY IS
01:44:23 UNDER A BUDGET CRUNCH AS WE GO ALONG.
01:44:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:44:28 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
01:44:29 >> HI.
01:44:33 MY NAME IS SARAH MYHRE.
01:44:38 I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBORS, THAT I LOOK
01:44:41 FORWARD TO BUT I DIDN'T WANT MORE TRAFFIC ON 10 STREET
01:44:49 AND JUST ONE SIDE OF A WALKING PATH AROUND GIDDENS PARK.
01:44:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:44:56 ANYTHING FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MEMBERS? APPLICANT,
01:44:58 DO YOU HAVE REBUTTAL?
01:45:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. HORNER, AS I STATED EARLIER, I
01:45:17 DON'T SEE ALARMING NEED FOR THE INGRESS-EGRESS ON
01:45:23 GIDDENS.
01:45:24 I BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF TESTIMONY AS TO WHY
01:45:27 IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
01:45:28 FRANKLY, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS
01:45:31 NOT HERE OBJECTING AS WELL, BECAUSE WE AS THE CITY ARE
01:45:35 THE OWNERS AND GARDENS OF THAT BEAUTIFUL PARK LAND THAT
01:45:41 IS ALSO IMPACTED ALMOST DIRECTLY BY THE PROPOSED INGRESS
01:45:46 AND EGRESS.
01:45:48 OTHERWISE, PERSONALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.
01:45:52 I HAVE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH YOUR CLIENT.
01:45:55 DID A GREAT JOB.
01:45:57 GOOD MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
01:45:58 AND I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT IF THEY TEAR DOWN
01:46:02 THOSE HOUSES THAT BEAT UP.
01:46:04 IT'S ALL GOOD BUT IT STILL DOESN'T JUSTIFY THE INGRESS
01:46:07 AND EGRESS TO GIDDENS.
01:46:10 THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GET PLENTY OF
01:46:13 BUSINESS ON AND OFF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, IF SOMEBODY
01:46:16 NEEDS TO FLIP A U-TURN TO COME BACK, AND COME INTO THE
01:46:21 RESTAURANT, IF THEY WANT TO EAT THERE, THEY WILL FIGURE
01:46:24 IT OUT.
01:46:24 AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FLIPPING U TURNS ON
01:46:28 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:46:29 I DO IT ALL THE TIME, TO GET TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
01:46:32 THE D.O.T. PUT IN A MEDIAN, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON
01:46:37 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:46:38 THAT'S JUST ME SPEAKING.
01:46:39 I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT WAIVER.
01:46:42 IT'S A BIG WAIVER FROM ITS SUPPOSED TO BE 100 FEET TO
01:46:47 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
01:46:49 EXCUSE ME, TO NEBRASKA.
01:46:51 YOU ARE 400 FEET.
01:46:54 WAIVER NUMBER ONE IS A BIG WAIVER.
01:46:56 WITH THE TESTIMONY I HAVE HEARD, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
01:46:58 BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M FINE WITH IT.
01:47:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:47:02 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
01:47:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST FEEL, I SAT HERE QUIETLY
01:47:10 LISTENING TO THINGS BEING SAID, AND GIDDENS AVENUE, THERE
01:47:15 IS A ZONING NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM HERE A FEW MOMENTS AGO
01:47:18 WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT GIDDENS, AND
01:47:21 THIS INGRESS AND EGRESS ON GIDDENS WOULD NOT BE
01:47:25 APPROPRIATE, NOT ONLY HERE, BUT I'VE SEEN MANY ON DALE
01:47:28 MABRY THAT ZONING WASN'T EVEN APPROVED.
01:47:34 NOTHING LIKE THIS WAS APPROVED BECAUSE THEY HAD INGRESS
01:47:36 AND EGRESS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:47:40 AND I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, THE
01:47:43 INGRESS AND EGRESS.
01:47:45 THERE'S NO TRAFFIC COUNT.
01:47:46 THERE'S NO ASSUMPTION.
01:47:47 WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
01:47:49 WE JUST KNOW IT'S INGRESS AND EGRESS IN AND OUT.
01:47:53 SO I HAVE A HARDSHIP WITH THAT INGRESS AND EGRESS.
01:47:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR?
01:48:03 >>MICHAEL HORNER: MICHAEL HORNER FOR THE RECORD.
01:48:06 WE APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
01:48:07 AND BELIEVE ME, WE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS
01:48:10 ACCENT AND HAD SEVERAL FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR
01:48:14 CLIENT.
01:48:14 WE DID DO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, MR. MIRANDA.
01:48:19 AND THAT ANALYSIS INDICATED THAT ONLY A VERY SMALL
01:48:22 PORTION BASED ON AM AND P.M. PEAK HOURS IS GOING TO BE
01:48:29 UTILIZING GIDDENS.
01:48:32 IT SHOWS A AND I WILL FILE THIS INTO THE RECORD THAT WE
01:48:37 HAVE ABOUT 10% DISTRIBUTION TO GET OUT OF IT.
01:48:43 YOU MAY SAY IF IT'S ONLY 10%, WHO NEED IT?
01:48:46 WELL, IT'S A CONVENIENCE FOR THE PATRONS.
01:48:49 WE ALSO HAVE FIRE AND EMS EMERGENCY ACCESS.
01:48:53 WE ALSO HAVE THE CONVENIENCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
01:48:56 WILL BE CUSTOMERS.
01:48:58 WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE ALIGNMENT TO 10th IS INDICATING
01:49:05 TO THE NEIGHBOR THAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING THIS THROUGH
01:49:08 TRAFFIC MOVEMENT TO THE SOUTH.
01:49:10 REMEMBER, 10th DEAD-END AT FRIERSON.
01:49:15 PEOPLE DO THE LOOP.
01:49:17 I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
01:49:18 I HAVE SEEN THAT.
01:49:19 BUT 10th IS A TRUNCATED ROADWAY DEAD-ENDS TO THE
01:49:24 SOUTH.
01:49:25 MY CLIENT IS WILLING TO RELOCATE THIS ACCESS DRIVE 65
01:49:31 FEET TO THE WEST SO THAT IT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH 10th,
01:49:36 SO THAT THERE'S NOT AN IMPLIED DIRECTION TO CONTINUE
01:49:40 SOUTH.
01:49:42 WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE GREATEST TO BEGIN
01:49:45 WITH, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO REALIGN THIS SO IT DOES NOT
01:49:50 ALIGN WITH 10th AND MOVE 65 FEET TO THE WEST AND
01:49:54 THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM 10th.
01:49:57 WE HAVE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
01:49:58 WE HAVE OUR COUNTS.
01:50:01 IT'S LOW TRAFFIC ON GIDDENS.
01:50:02 WE ARE SHOWING 100 TRIPS POST FOR PRE-TRAFFIC AND PROJECT
01:50:11 DEVELOPMENT AFTERWARDS AND PEAK HOUR, 110 TO 112.
01:50:16 SO ABOUT A 10 TO 12% UTILIZATION OF GIDDENS.
01:50:19 BUT IT'S CRITICAL ENOUGH FOR OUR CLIENT CIRCULATION AND
01:50:23 PLAN AND CONVENIENCE, QUIETED HONESTLY, THAT HE NEEDS TO
01:50:27 HAVE THAT.
01:50:28 I WISH I COULD TELL YOU WE COULD DROP IT.
01:50:30 THAT'S KIND WHY WE AGREED TO A VERY EXPENSIVE 6 FAT
01:50:35 CONCRETE WALL BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THAT ACCESS WAS GOING
01:50:38 TO HAVE TO BE ON GIDDENS.
01:50:40 GIDDENS DOES HAVE SPEED BUMPS.
01:50:42 WE ARE PROVIDING SIDEWALK WHERE THERE IS NONE.
01:50:46 AND AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES, DISCOUNT AUTO, TACO
01:50:51 BUS, I THINK PUBLIC STORAGE MAY HAVE SOUTH ACCESS.
01:50:54 BUT ALL THOSE LOTS FACING GIDDENS IS A CG ZONING.
01:51:02 THEY CAN GO OUT TOMORROW WITH NO RESTRICTIONS ON ANY
01:51:05 OTHER COMPONENT OF THAT GIDDENS, NO LIGHT LIMITATIONS, NO
01:51:10 F.A.R. LIMITATIONS AND I WILL WAIT FOR A FEW MORE
01:51:14 COMMENTS.
01:51:16 I'M SORRY MR. GUDES HAD TO RECUSE HIMSELF.
01:51:19 WE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A CONFLICT.
01:51:21 I CERTAINLY CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
01:51:23 I WAS SPEAKING WITH MY CLIENT.
01:51:25 WE RESPECT THAT DECISION.
01:51:26 BUT WE DON'T MIND AND ARE WILLING TO COMMIT TO ALL THE
01:51:29 IMPROVEMENTS AND SLIDING THE DRIVEWAY 657 FEET TO THE
01:51:34 WEST SO IT NO LONGER ALIGNED WITH 10th AVENUE.
01:51:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:51:39 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
01:51:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.
01:51:50 MR. HORN HER, YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
01:51:57 A BIG BLOCK.
01:52:01 THE FIRST POINT IN THE EVENING I AM SPEAKING MORE TO YOUR
01:52:04 CLIENT THAN I AM SPEAKING TO YOU.
01:52:06 A CERTAIN POINT IN THE EVENING WHEN WE CLOSE PUBLIC
01:52:09 HEARINGS WE ARE GOING TO GET STUCK WITH A YES OR NO VOTE,
01:52:12 OKAY.
01:52:12 THE WAY THIS IS LAYING OUT, I KNOW I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.
01:52:17 I HEARD ANOTHER VOTE NO DOWN AT THE FAR END.
01:52:21 IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT A VERY NICE PROJECT LIKE THIS COULD
01:52:24 GET TURNED DOWN ON THE BASIS OF THAT GIDDENS ISSUE THAT
01:52:29 FRANKLY YOUR OWN EXPERT HERE HAS INDICATED IT'S ONLY 10%
01:52:34 OF THE TRAFFIC.
01:52:35 SO IT'S NOT WHERE I WANT TO GO WITH THIS PROJECT.
01:52:40 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT APPROVED.
01:52:42 BUT I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT WHEN IT ACCESSES GIDDENS THAT
01:52:46 WAY.
01:52:47 THAT'S WHERE I AM COMING FROM.
01:52:49 IN ANOTHER SECOND OR TWO EVERYBODY IS GOING TO MOVE TO
01:52:52 CLOSE AND IT WILL BE A YES OR NO VOTE.
01:52:54 >>MICHAEL HORNER: I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT, MR.
01:52:57 DINGFELDER.
01:52:58 YOU AND I HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A LONG TIME.
01:53:00 I CAN READ THE CARDS.
01:53:04 IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.
01:53:06 WE SAT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I ADVISED THEM WE HAVE
01:53:08 TO HAVE THAT ACCESS AND WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE
01:53:11 OTHER LOCATION.
01:53:12 BUT BEFORE YOU CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. CHAIR, MAY I
01:53:14 HAVE JUST 60 SECONDS?
01:53:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
01:53:37 AS LATE AS THE NIGHT IS, SO BRAIN CELLS ARE STILL
01:53:42 WORKING.
01:53:45 IF WE COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE YOUR
01:53:48 TIME TONIGHT.
01:53:49 IF WE COULD CONTINUE THIS CASE FOR 30 DAYS SO THAT WE CAN
01:53:55 GO BACK AND REASSESS THAT GIDDENS ACCESS.
01:53:59 MY CLIENT IS OUT OF TOWN.
01:54:02 IF I AM ABLE TO REACH HIM TONIGHT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO
01:54:05 MAKE THAT DECISION AND HE HAS SO MUCH INVESTED IN THIS.
01:54:08 HE'S ALREADY CLOSED ON MAJOR PARCELS.
01:54:12 I WOULD BE CHARGED WITH PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT IF I DID
01:54:15 NOT ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE.
01:54:16 I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK.
01:54:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE JULY 16 THE EVENING.
01:54:21 WE HAVE ELEVEN REZONINGS.
01:54:23 AND I MEAN IT DOESN'T MATTER.
01:54:28 ALL THE EVENINGS ARE BUSY.
01:54:29 WE ALSO HAVE JULY 30th IN THE EVENING WHICH IS
01:54:32 ALSO -- IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT THAT FAR.
01:54:40 BUT IT IS MY MOTHER'S BIRTHDAY.
01:54:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE CAN REFER TO STAFF.
01:54:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DOES THE STAFF RECOMMEND FOR
01:54:53 CONTINUANCE?
01:54:54 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: WHAT ARE YOU ASKING ME?
01:54:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M JUST WONDERING FOR THE CALENDAR HOW
01:55:01 MANY CASES WOULD BE SET FOR A PARTICULAR DATE.
01:55:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 30th --
01:55:06 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: JULY 30th IS COMPLETELY FULL.
01:55:09 WE ARE ACTUALLY OVERFLOWING ON JULY 30th.
01:55:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN WE HAVE AUGUST 20th WHICH
01:55:14 IS FAR OUT THERE.
01:55:15 IF NOT, WE HAVE JULY 16th.
01:55:20 THAT'S 11 REZONINGS AND ONE OTHER RELIEF PETITION.
01:55:24 JULY 11th.
01:55:26 JULY 16th.
01:55:27 >>MICHAEL HORNER: WE COULD AGREE TO THAT.
01:55:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE 14 ITEMS TAINT.
01:55:37 >>CATE WELLS: THE ONE ITEM THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR JULY
01:55:41 16th IS A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT THAT'S DENIED.
01:55:45 I WOULD EXPECT THAT TO TAKE CONSIDERABLE TIME BY THIS
01:55:48 COUNCIL IN ADDITION TO THE 11 REZONING APPLICATIONS THAT
01:55:50 ARE ALREADY SCHEDULED.
01:55:51 I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE AN IDEAL NIGHT.
01:55:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FURTHER OUT
01:55:56 INTO AUGUST?
01:55:57 AUGUST 20th WOULD BE THE NEXT AVAILABLE.
01:55:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE JULY 15th.
01:56:06 THIS THING SHOULD ONLY TAKE 5 OR 10 MINUTES BECAUSE WE
01:56:08 HAVE DONE IT ALL.
01:56:09 SO WHEN THEY COME BACK, I AM GOING TO ASSUME THEY ARE
01:56:12 EITHER GOING TO SAY "YES" OR "NO" TO THE LAST ISSUE THAT
01:56:16 REMAINS.
01:56:16 SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MS. WELLS, YES, WE ALL WANT A
01:56:21 SHORTER MEETING, BUT IN THIS CASE, FIVE MINUTES.
01:56:25 >>MICHAEL HORNER: I THINK IT WOULD BE AN ABBREVIATED
01:56:30 PRESENTATION ON THE 16th.
01:56:33 EITHER SAY "YES" OR "NO."
01:56:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:56:39 TO 6 P.M., JULY 16th.
01:56:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TAKE IT FIRST.
01:56:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN PUT IT NUMBER ONE ON THE
01:56:47 AGENDA TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY.
01:56:49 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
01:56:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:56:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:56:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:56:57 OKAY.
01:56:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:56:59 THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
01:57:00 WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS.
01:57:02 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:57:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE SIR.
01:57:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, SEEING AND HEARING
01:57:10 THINGS THIS EVENING, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED ON THE
01:57:16 SEPTEMBER 24th AND THAT WORKSHOP IS GOING TO INCLUDE
01:57:21 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
01:57:22 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INCLUDE TRANSPORTATION TO DISCUSS
01:57:25 PARKING ON RIGHTS-OF-WAY, RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
01:57:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10 A.M.?
01:57:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
01:57:36 YES, 10 A.M.
01:57:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
01:57:39 CITRO.
01:57:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:57:43 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
01:57:44 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
01:57:46 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN CITRO?
01:57:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OH, NO, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
01:57:50 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF, THE
01:57:53 CONVENTION CENTER AND CITY STAFF FOR STAYING SO LATE.
01:57:56 IT'S A LONG DAY.
01:57:57 WE SIGNED UP FOR THIS AND YOU ALL WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE
01:58:01 NOW.
01:58:01 BUT THE THING I WANT TO SAY IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT
01:58:04 OF LATE NIGHTS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS BECAUSE OF
01:58:08 THE COVID-19 DELAY BUT PLEAS AS YOU ARE GOING HOME AND
01:58:12 APOLOGIZING TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, PLEASE REMEMBER THIS.
01:58:15 YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING TOP RESTART OUR ECONOMY.
01:58:18 WHAT WE DID TONIGHT IS VERY ESSENTIAL TO CREATING MORE
01:58:22 JOBS, CREATED AT LEAST TENS OF JOBS, MAYBE 100 JOBS
01:58:26 THROUGH THESE PROJECTS TONIGHT AND WE ARE GOING TO
01:58:28 POTENTIALLY BE CREATING THOUSANDS OF JOBS OVER THE NEXT
01:58:31 COUPLE OF MONTHS SO THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
01:58:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
01:58:35 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:58:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD TO BE BACK MOVING THE COMMUNITY
01:58:41 FORWARD AS MR. CARLSON SAID.
01:58:45 I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REPORT BACK TO US AT THE JULY
01:58:51 16th -- ACTUALLY, JUST A REGULAR -- WHAT'S A REGULAR
01:58:56 MEETING?
01:58:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A REGULAR MEETING, JULY
01:58:58 16th.
01:58:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE.
01:59:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE MORNING OF JULY 16 UNDER STAFF
01:59:04 REPORTS AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS A
01:59:09 LEGAL ACCESS COMING THROUGH.
01:59:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGARDING THE DEMOLITION AND THE
01:59:13 DIRT LOT?
01:59:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED
01:59:18 THROUGH A MEMO?
01:59:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M OKAY WITH A MEMO ON THAT ISSUE.
01:59:26 THE EFFECTS OF A LEGAL CUT THROUGH TO GIDDENS.
01:59:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IT MAY BE ALSO RELEVANT TO
01:59:33 SOMETHING THAT'S COMING BEFORE COUNCIL.
01:59:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, IT'S NOT RELATIVE.
01:59:38 I MADE MY CASE, IN THE CLEAR HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEIR CUT
01:59:44 THROUGH BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, THE NEIGHBORS
01:59:48 EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT TACK-BUS.
01:59:49 LET'S GET AN ANSWER TO THAT.
01:59:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:59:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:59:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:59:57 ALL RIGHT.
01:59:57 ANYTHING ELSE?
01:59:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
02:00:01 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING SIR.
02:00:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I HAVE TWO
02:00:06 MOTIONS ONE FOR ITEM NUMBER 26 OAT JUNE 4th AGENDA.
02:00:13 WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO REFLECT THAT THE HEARING WILL BE
02:00:17 HEARD AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
02:00:19 THERE WAS NO DESIGNATION.
02:00:21 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:00:23 AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:00:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:00:26 AND THE SAME, ANOTHER MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER
02:00:30 34 FROM THAT JUNE 4th AGENDA TO AUGUST 6th UNDER
02:00:34 STAFF REPORTS.
02:00:35 IF I CAN GET A MOTION FOR THAT.
02:00:38 COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH A MOTION.
02:00:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:00:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:00:44 ALL RIGHT.
02:00:47 I HAVE TO PASS THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR THIS.
02:00:50 I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THOM SNELLING
02:00:53 WHO WILL BE RETIRING.
02:00:55 I WILL DELIVER IT TO HIM CONSIDERING THE COVID-19
02:00:59 CIRCUMSTANCES.
02:01:00 AND IT WILL BE AT A FUTURE DATE.
02:01:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO WAS THE SECOND?
02:01:07 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:01:09 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:01:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:01:12 OPPOSED?
02:01:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:01:15 THEN THE LAST ITEM, IF YOU ALL RECEIVED THE E-MAIL
02:01:18 INVITATION FROM THE TAMPA BAY AREA OF BLACK CLERGY, THEY
02:01:21 WANTED TO MEET WITH US, I BELIEVE IT'S MONDAY.
02:01:25 BUT IT IS A CLOSED MEETING, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
02:01:28 AND BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE LAWS WE CANNOT ATTEND AND
02:01:33 IT'S NOT NOTICED AND ALL THAT.
02:01:35 I WOULD LIKE TO GO, BEING CHAIR, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
02:01:39 IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS OF SENDING SOMEBODY
02:01:43 ELSE.
02:01:45 NO?
02:01:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, MR. CHAIRMAN DO
02:01:50 IT.
02:01:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:01:52 >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE YOU.
02:01:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT MIGHT BE EVEN PROBLEMATIC BUT AS
02:01:59 LONG AS THERE'S CONSENSUS.
02:02:00 I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH AN OFFICIAL ACTION THAT YOU
02:02:03 DELEGATED THAT AUTHORITY.
02:02:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO IT.
02:02:08 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
02:02:09 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
02:02:11 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:02:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:02:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST ITEM THAT CAME THROUGH FROM
02:02:17 THE CHIEF OF STAFF OFFICE TODAY.
02:02:19 AND I SPOKE ABOUT IT.
02:02:24 IT WAS A REQUEST FROM CAROLE POST THAT THE DEVELOPMENT
02:02:28 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT REFLECT TIME ON CITY
02:02:31 COUNCIL'S REGULAR AGENDA ON THURSDAY, JUNE 25, 2020 TO
02:02:36 PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS, FINAL SUMMARY OF OBSERVATIONS
02:02:40 AND FINDINGS BY THE DARIUS CONSULTING SERVICES.
02:02:45 MR. ROBERT LANDRY IS A IS A CONSULTANT IS OUT OF STATE
02:02:50 AND CONSIDERING TIME LIMITATIONS.
02:02:53 THE PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE VIRTUALLY.
02:02:54 WE REQUEST, THE ADMINISTRATION REQUESTS 20 MINUTES TO
02:02:57 ALLOW TIME FOR PRESENTATION INCLUDING QUESTIONS BY
02:03:00 COUNCIL, ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE.
02:03:03 THEY ASK THAT BE PLACED UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE
02:03:08 FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON JUNE 25th.
02:03:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:03:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:03:19 ALL RIGHT.
02:03:19 NOW CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
02:03:21 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:03:23 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
02:03:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:03:25 ALL RIGHT.
02:03:25 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
02:03:28
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