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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 20, 2020
6:00 P.M. VIRTUAL SESSION

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18:02:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

18:02:56 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

18:02:57 >>LUIS VIERA: (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE)

18:03:05 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

18:03:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

18:03:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

18:03:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

18:03:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

18:03:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

18:03:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:03:17 MR. SHELBY.

18:03:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

18:03:21 GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE

18:03:22 PUBLIC.

18:03:23 TODAY, THURSDAY, AUGUST 20th, 2020, A VIRTUAL MEETING

18:03:28 OF THE CITY COUNCIL BEING HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE

18:03:31 DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE

18:03:33 ORDER 20-69 AND 20-1993 AND FURTHER EXTENDED, BY THE

18:03:39 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY TAMPA




18:03:42 CITY COUNCIL.

18:03:43 IT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED

18:03:48 TO BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS

18:03:51 COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.

18:03:53 THE MEETING IS AVAILABLE TO BE WATCHED TONIGHT ON CABLE

18:03:56 TV AND ON THE INTERNET AT HTTPS://WWW.TAMPAGOV.NET/

18:04:01 LIVESTREAM.

18:04:02 THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING ARE REGISTERED IN

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18:04:09 THE PUBLIC AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE.

18:04:12 THE SHORTCUT IS TAMPAGOV.NET/QUASI.

18:04:23 FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, I WILL TELL YOU THE CITY

18:04:25 COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE WHICH IS TAMPAGOV.NET SLASH

18:04:32 CITY-COUNCIL.

18:04:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

18:04:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:04:35 BEFORE WE GUN, WHICH ITEMS MS. SAMANIEGO WILL NOT BE

18:04:43 HEARD TONIGHT, IF WE CAN GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY?

18:04:45 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 2 WHICH IS REZ 20 ---

18:05:00 (BACKGROUND NOISE).

18:05:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I COULDN'T HEAR.

18:05:05 I'M SORRY.

18:05:07 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: 20-41.

18:05:09 THEY HAVE REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE EVENING HEARING

18:05:12 OF NOVEMBER 12, 2020.




18:05:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT TIME WOULD THAT BE SET FOR, DO YOU

18:05:18 KNOW?

18:05:19 PRESENTLY, NOVEMBER -- DO YOU WANT IT SET FOR 6:00 OR FOR

18:05:26 5:01 P.M.?

18:05:27 DO WE HAVE A DECISION ON THAT FROM -- EITHER A

18:05:31 RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF OR FROM COUNCIL?

18:05:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO MY RECOLLECTION I THOUGHT WE WERE

18:05:46 ONLY GOING TO HAVE 10 TO 12 ITEMS IN AN EVENING SESSION

18:05:51 SO WE ARE GOING BACK TO SOMETHING --

18:05:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 12TH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY

18:05:56 HAVE BEEN SET.

18:05:57 LAND DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT NOW, KEEP TABS

18:06:02 ON THAT.

18:06:03 I DON'T HAVE THE SHEET IN FRONT OF ME CURRENT WILL YOU.

18:06:05 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING SAID HAS BEEN CLEARED

18:06:08 THROUGH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND I BELIEVE THE

18:06:10 NOVEMBER 12 DATE WOULD ALLOW FOR, I SUSPECT, UP TO 10.

18:06:16 OTHERWISE, COUNCIL, THERE MAY BE AN ASSUMPTION BECAUSE

18:06:19 YOU DIDN'T EXTEND IT PAST OCTOBER 1st.

18:06:22 IT MAY BE AN ASSUMPTION THAT GOES BACK TO 13.

18:06:26 I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED.

18:06:30 BY NOVEMBER, THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION AT THIS PRESENT TIME

18:06:33 THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL EITHER BE BACK IN PERSON AT THE

18:06:36 TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER OR BACK IN SESSION AT THE CITY

18:06:38 COUNCIL CHAMBERS.




18:06:40 SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, SIR, IS NOVEMBER IS FAR

18:06:43 ENOUGH OUT THAT I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

18:06:45 I DON'T KNOW.

18:06:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'M SORRY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I

18:06:52 AM KEEPING TRACK OF THE NUMBER OF CASES.

18:06:54 THIS CASE AS WELL AS THE NEXT ONE I AM ABOUT TO CONTINUE

18:06:56 WILL BE 10 CASES.

18:06:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:07:02 NEXT?

18:07:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT TIME, SIR?

18:07:06 BECAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE A MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT?

18:07:08 SO THEN THAT WOULD NEED TO BE OPENED AND THEN CONTINUED.

18:07:13 IS THAT CORRECT?

18:07:14 OKAY.

18:07:17 DO WE WANT TO DO THAT INDIVIDUALLY THEN?

18:07:20 A MOTION TO OPEN THAT AND CONTINUE IT AND TAKE THEM

18:07:23 INDIVIDUALLY?

18:07:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WOULD NOT BE IN PERSON, I GUESS,

18:07:27 AND WE'LL GET TO IT WHEN WE GET TO IT.

18:07:30 THAT'S ALL.

18:07:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION, I

18:07:41 THINK.

18:07:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'M SORRY, I'M CONFUSED.

18:07:44 DON'T WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE CONTINUANCE?

18:07:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE




18:07:48 ITEM NUMBER 2 TO NOVEMBER 12 AT 6:00 P.M.

18:07:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.

18:07:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WASN'T OPEN, SIR, I DON'T BELIEVE.

18:07:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN?

18:07:59 I WOULD SUGGEST TO OPEN THEM ALL, AND THEN WE TAKE THE

18:08:04 ONES OUT.

18:08:05 AND THAT WAY THERE WON'T BE A MISUNDERSTANDING.

18:08:09 MOTION TO OPEN HEARINGS 1 THROUGH 13.

18:08:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

18:08:15 CITRO.

18:08:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:08:17 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?

18:08:18 HEARING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN.

18:08:20 BEFORE WE START, I JUST WANT TO PUT IN THE RECORD A MEMO

18:08:23 FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA THAT HE WILL BE A FEW MINUTES

18:08:28 LATE, JUST SO IT'S ON THE RECORD.

18:08:30 BUT WE ALREADY KNOW.

18:08:31 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, ALSO, MY SON IS LEAVING

18:08:38 TOMORROW MORNING FOR TALLAHASSEE AND THERE'S A GOING AWAY

18:08:40 PARTY FOR HIM AND I WILL EXIT SOMETIME AROUND 8:00.

18:08:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAYBE WE'LL BE DONE BY THEN.

18:08:50 THE HEARINGS ARE ALL OPEN.

18:08:52 ITEM NUMBER 2, IF WE GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT TO

18:08:55 NOVEMBER 12th.

18:08:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, ITEM NUMBER 2, TO NOVEMBER




18:09:03 12, 2020, 6:00 P.M.

18:09:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

18:09:13 ANY DISCUSSION?

18:09:14 DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL ON THIS, SIR?

18:09:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE.

18:09:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.

18:09:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:09:27 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?

18:09:29 DINGFELDER?

18:09:31 MANISCALCO?

18:09:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

18:09:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:09:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:09:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:09:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AND

18:09:42 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

18:09:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:09:46 WHAT'S NEXT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE HEARD OPPORTUNITY?

18:09:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:09:50 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS REZ 20-60.

18:09:55 THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE AGAIN TO THE

18:09:59 NOVEMBER 12, 2020 HEARING AT 6:00 P.M.

18:10:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:10:09 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES,

18:10:11 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.




18:10:13 ROLL CALL VOTE.

18:10:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:10:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

18:10:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:10:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:10:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:10:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AND

18:10:33 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

18:10:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS HAVING A

18:10:37 CONNECTION PROBLEM.

18:10:38 HE IS TRYING.

18:10:40 HE'S GOT AN ISSUE THERE.

18:10:43 WHEN IS THE NEXT ITEM?

18:10:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 6 IS REZ 20-31.

18:10:50 THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 10

18:10:54 MEETING AT 5:01 P.M.

18:10:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT

18:10:59 ON ITEM NUMBER 6?

18:11:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I

18:11:02 INTERJECT?

18:11:03 I JUST WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, I THINK

18:11:06 THERE ARE TWO HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE REQUESTING SEPTEMBER

18:11:10 10th.

18:11:10 TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN GUDES' QUESTION, I LEARNED EARLIER

18:11:15 TONIGHT, RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING, FROM THE CLERK'S




18:11:19 OFFICE, THAT THE SECOND READINGS THAT HAVE BEEN

18:11:23 PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 10th HAVE NOT YET

18:11:26 MADE IT TO THE CALENDAR.

18:11:28 SO I JUST WANT TO THE BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION HOW

18:11:30 MANY YOU HAVE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 10th.

18:11:35 YOU HAVE SIX QUASI-JUDICIAL, ONE VACATION, RIGHT-OF-WAY,

18:11:43 FIVE LAND REZONINGS.

18:11:46 YOU HAVE TWO ADOPTION PLAN AMENDMENTS.

18:11:49 AND YOU HAVE ONE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

18:11:52 SO YOU HAVE SIX QUASI, A PLANNED AMENDMENT AND ONE

18:11:57 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

18:11:58 COUNCIL, YOU ALSO PRESENTLY AS OF TONIGHT HAVE 14 SECOND

18:12:02 READINGS SCHEDULED FOR THAT EVENING.

18:12:05 SO I CANNOT SAY IN A VIRTUAL ENVIRONMENT, AND I CANNOT

18:12:09 HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION OF WHAT THOSE CASES ARE

18:12:12 SPECIFICALLY.

18:12:12 THEY COULD GO LONG -- EXCUSE ME, THEY COULD GO SHORT.

18:12:16 I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG 14 SECOND READINGS ARE GOING TO

18:12:19 TAKE.

18:12:20 SO YOU PRESENTLY HAVE, HOWEVER COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO IT,

18:12:24 TO A MEETING AT YOUR PLEASURE.

18:12:26 IF YOU ADD ANY MEETINGS TONIGHT, THEY WILL HAVE

18:12:30 QUASI-JUDICIAL ON TOP OF THE 14 SECOND READINGS AND I

18:12:34 SHOULD POINT OUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT UNLESS YOU SCHEDULE

18:12:36 TOTAL ANOTHER MEETING OTHER THAN SEPTEMBER 10, ALL THE




18:12:40 MEETINGS THAT ARE PASSED ON FIRST READING TONIGHT WOULD

18:12:42 OTHERWISE BE SET IN ADDITION TO THOSE 14 TO SEPTEMBER

18:12:47 10th.

18:12:47 SO COUNCIL NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

18:12:50 ANYTHING THAT MOVES TO A SECOND READ, UNLESS IT PICKS

18:12:53 ANOTHER DATE OTHER THAN SEPTEMBER 10th, THE NEXT

18:12:56 NIGHT MEETING COMING DOWN LET'S SAY ON THE 21st,

18:12:59 WHICH IS A MONDAY, YOU ARE GOING TO BE ADDING TO SECOND

18:13:02 READINGS.

18:13:02 SO COUNCILMAN GUDES, I JUST WANTED YOU SINCE YOU ASKED

18:13:07 THAT QUESTION, TO INFORM COUNCIL SO YOU MAKE AN INFORMED

18:13:10 CHOICE CONTROLLING YOUR CALENDAR.

18:13:12 THANK YOU

18:13:18 SO THE QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL

18:13:22 QUASI-JUDICIAL TO THE SECOND READINGS?

18:13:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S FINE WITH ME.

18:13:26 ANY DISCUSSION FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?

18:13:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, MY CONCERN WAS WE TALKED ABOUT

18:13:34 WITH MR. CARLSON BEFORE BEING ABOUT OUT SO LATE, JUST THE

18:13:38 CRISIS GOING ON AND THE TIME FACTOR.

18:13:40 I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE, THAT MANY COULD GO

18:13:46 LATE.

18:13:46 SO I WAS JUST BRINGING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE SET

18:13:54 TO A CERTAIN NUMBER.

18:13:55 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I THINK GOING TOO LATE, IT'S




18:14:03 DEFINITELY NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC.

18:14:05 SO WHEN WE GO PAST MIDNIGHT IN PARTICULAR, THE PUBLIC

18:14:10 FEELS EXHAUSTED, AND FEELS LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO SET

18:14:14 MEETINGS UP AT TIMES WHERE THEY CAN'T APPEAR.

18:14:16 SO IF IT WOULD END EARLIER, THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US

18:14:21 FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

18:14:23 THANK YOU.

18:14:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

18:14:25 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO SEPTEMBER

18:14:28 10th, ITEM NUMBER 6?

18:14:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 6 BE CONTINUED TO

18:14:35 SEPTEMBER 10th, 2020, 5:01 IT SAYS HERE.

18:14:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

18:14:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.

18:14:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:14:46 ROLL CALL VOTE.

18:14:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

18:14:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:15:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:15:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:15:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AND

18:15:13 THAN DINGFELDER ABSENT AT VOTE.

18:15:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 7 IS NEXT.

18:15:16 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 7, THEY REQUEST TO




18:15:21 CONTINUE TO AGAIN SEPTEMBER 10th AT 5:01 P.M.,

18:15:24 PLEASE.

18:15:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?

18:15:30 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER

18:15:33 7 TO SEPTEMBER 10th?

18:15:36 >> SO MOVED.

18:15:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

18:15:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ 20-33 TO SEPTEMBER

18:15:45 10 AT 5:01 P.M.

18:15:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.

18:15:51 >>LUIS VIERA: (NO RESPONSE)

18:15:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:15:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: (NO RESPONSE)

18:16:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:16:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:16:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:16:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AND

18:16:09 DINGFELDER ABSENT AT VOTE.

18:16:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT'S NEXT?

18:16:13 ITEM NUMBER 9?

18:16:18 YES.

18:16:18 THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 12, 2020 AT

18:16:24 6:00 P.M., PLEASE.

18:16:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?

18:16:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.




18:16:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?

18:16:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE DATE AND TIME, PLEASE?

18:16:36 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NOVEMBER 12, 6:00 P.M.

18:16:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

18:16:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:16:41 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:16:43 ROLL CALL.

18:16:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:16:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:16:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:16:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:16:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

18:16:58 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AND

18:17:03 DINGFELDER ABSENT AT VOTE.

18:17:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT ITEMS ARE 11 AND 12 WHICH

18:17:07 CANNOT BE HEARD.

18:17:07 CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE THOSE?

18:17:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NUMBER 11, REZ 20-54.

18:17:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.

18:17:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:17:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

18:17:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:17:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:17:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:17:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA ABSENT AND THAN




18:17:38 DINGFELDER ABSENT AT VOTE.

18:17:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:17:40 I JUST RECEIVED AND UPDATE HERE THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA

18:17:43 WILL BE JOINING US CLOSER TO 6:50 THIS EVENING.

18:17:48 SIX FIVE OH.

18:17:50 HAVING SAID THAT WE BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.

18:17:52 >> THIS ITEM IS A FIRST AMENDMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT,

18:18:10 PROPERTY PARTNERS OR SPP, BY ORDER OF DEVELOPMENT ACT

18:18:20 FLORIDA STATUTES.

18:18:23 IT REQUIRES TWO NOTICED PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE FIRST PUBLIC

18:18:26 HEARING.

18:18:29 IF APPROVED, IT WILL BE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION, WHICH

18:18:33 DOES NOT REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS, BUT IT DOES

18:18:40 REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE HEARINGS.

18:18:42 SO THERE'S NO ACTION THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE TONIGHT

18:18:47 AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

18:18:53 FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THE

18:18:55 RESOLUTION.

18:18:57 EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PRESENTED AS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA

18:19:01 STATUTE AND THE ORDINANCE.

18:19:05 THIS IS -- AFTER OCTOBER OF 2018.

18:19:12 THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE CITY AUTHORIZED SPP TO

18:19:15 PROCEED WITH VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.

18:19:21 FOLLOWING COMPLETION OF THE MERIDIAN CONNECTION, REFERRED

18:19:25 TO IN THE AGREEMENT.




18:19:34 SPP AGREED THAT CITY WOULD NOT SEEK ANY TEMPORARY OR

18:19:38 PERMANENT CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT

18:19:41 IN PHASE 1 UNTIL THE CUMBERLAND MARINE CONNECTION HAS

18:19:45 BEEN CONSTRUCTED, INSPECTED BY THE CITY.

18:19:50 AT THIS POINT, THE MIXED USE BUILDING WILL BE COMPLETED

18:19:59 PRIOR TO COMPLETION OF THE CONNECTION AND MADE AVAILABLE

18:20:06 EARLY SO IT CAN SERVE AS PARKING AVAILABLE FOR THE

18:20:08 VARIOUS THINGS SUCH AS ARENA, COUNCIL BUILDING AND SO

18:20:18 FORTH.

18:20:18 IF APPROVED, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR OCCUPANCY FOR THE GARAGE

18:20:26 PORTION ONLY PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION. ACTION.

18:20:30 THE FIRST AMENDMENT WILL ALSO DELETE A AND B TO THE

18:20:33 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND REPLACE THEM WITH A AND B WITH

18:20:40 THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND REQUEST SPP -- NOW OWE THE LAND

18:20:47 SUBJECT TO THE AGREEMENT AND REQUEST A NEW LEGAL

18:20:52 DESCRIPTION RESULTING FROM THE INSPECTION OF THE FINAL

18:20:54 PLAT FOR UPDATE ONE.

18:20:59 WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF SPP WHO WILL MAKE A BRIEF

18:21:03 PRESENTATION.

18:21:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE CONTINUE, HAS EVERYONE

18:21:06 BEEN SWORN IN, OR BEFORE YOU SPEAK MAKE SURE YOU ARE

18:21:09 SWORN IN.

18:21:10 >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.

18:21:12 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

18:21:16 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE




18:21:20 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

18:21:21 >> YES, I DO.

18:21:24 GOOD EVENING.

18:21:24 MY NAME IS ANGELA HAUPERT WITH SPP, 616 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE

18:21:30 IN TAMPA.

18:21:33 I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME.

18:21:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

18:21:36 GO AHEAD.

18:21:41 [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]

18:21:42 SHE DID A GOOD JOB OUTLINING.

18:21:46 THIS AMENDMENT, THE PURPOSE IS TO OPEN THE GARAGE FOR

18:21:53 LIMITED USES PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THE CUMBERLAND

18:21:56 MERIDIAN CONNECTION.

18:21:58 WE HAD TO CHANGE SOME OTHER THINGS ALONG WITH THAT CHANGE

18:22:02 SIMPLY TO NEGLECT THINGS.

18:22:08 SO PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT -- WE DID THAT.

18:22:14 AND SO AS A RESULT, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION HAS GOTTEN MUCH

18:22:17 SIMPLER FOR THE PROPERTY.

18:22:18 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES.

18:22:21 WE ALSO HAD -- WE DIVIDED THE PROPERTY INTO DIFFERENT

18:22:28 OWNERSHIPS.

18:22:32 OTHER THAN THAT, THE MEAT OF THE AMENDMENT IS TO OPEN THE

18:22:40 GARAGE TO RELIEVE CONGESTION IN THE AREA AHEAD OF THE

18:22:44 ACTUAL CUMBERLAND CONNECTION.

18:22:46 AGAIN, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO OPEN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE




18:22:48 DISTRICT AT THIS POINT.

18:22:52 THE WATER PARK IS HAPPENING.

18:22:55 THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE AT THE CORNER OF MERIDIAN AND

18:22:58 CUMBERLAND, WE BELIEF THAT IT CAN BE USEFUL TO RELIEVE

18:23:04 SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND PARKING CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE

18:23:07 IN THE AREA.

18:23:08 AT THIS POINT, IN LIGHT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED,

18:23:11 THAT CONGESTION DOESN'T EXIST IN THE WAY THAT WE HAD

18:23:14 ANTICIPATED BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD

18:23:18 WITH LESS TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.

18:23:20 BUT WE STILL WISH TO OPEN THE GARAGE AS SOON AS WE

18:23:24 POSSIBLY CAN.

18:23:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:23:29 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

18:23:34 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

18:23:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD ASSUME THAT LEGAL HAS

18:23:38 REVIEWED ALL THESE DOCUMENTS AND CONFIRMED EVERYTHING IS

18:23:42 COPACETIC?

18:23:43 >> YES, WE HAVE.

18:23:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:23:48 ANYTHING ELSE?

18:23:48 IF NOT WE WILL SEE IF THERE IS ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT

18:23:51 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 1.

18:23:53 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?

18:24:02 ALL RIGHT.




18:24:02 ANYTHING ELSE?

18:24:03 NO?

18:24:04 MAY I HAVE A MOTION?

18:24:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY AT THE

18:24:09 CONVENTION CENTER.

18:24:10 >> THERE'S NO ONE HERE.

18:24:15 ON BEHALF OF THIS ITEM.

18:24:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:24:17 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

18:24:19 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:24:21 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:24:23 ANY OBJECTION?

18:24:30 HEARING NONE THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

18:24:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.

18:24:39 >>CATE WELLS: THERE'S GOING TO BE A SECOND PUBLIC

18:24:41 HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 10 AT 6:00 P.M. AT WHICH TIME YOU

18:24:44 TAKE ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION.

18:24:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE JUST CLOSE?

18:24:49 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:24:49 THAT CONCLUDES ITEM 1.

18:24:52 MOVING ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER 3.

18:24:58 GO AHEAD.

18:24:59 WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN?

18:25:00 AND MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU SPEAK THAT YOU ARE SWORN IN.

18:25:03 IF NOT WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.




18:25:05 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

18:25:08 I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, AT THE BEGINNING OF

18:25:12 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS -- PRESENT AND ASK EACH APPLICANT

18:25:21 TO CONFIRM THEIR AGREEMENT TO EXTEND THE 180-DAY TIME

18:25:26 FRAME FOR COMPLETION OF QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS AS SET

18:25:29 FORTH IN SECTION 1 OF FLORIDA STATUTES AND IN SECTION

18:25:35 27-SECTION E OF THE CITY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

18:25:39 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

18:25:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:25:43 LET'S BEGIN.

18:25:59 WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 3?

18:26:02 MARY?

18:26:03 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO BE SWORN IN BY

18:26:05 THE CITY CLERK.

18:26:08 >>JIM CREW: MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. HEMMINGS HAS NOT TURNED

18:26:12 HIS MICROPHONE OR VIDEO ON YET.

18:26:14 HE NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.

18:26:16 MR. HEDGES, IF YOU WOULD TURN ON YOUR -- HEMMING, TURN

18:26:21 OWN YOUR WEB CAM AND MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

18:26:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND EACH HEARING BECAUSE IT'S VIRTUAL

18:26:26 IS INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

18:26:27 SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN AT THE START OF EACH

18:26:31 HEARING.

18:26:32 THAT WILL BE THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS.

18:26:34 THANK YOU.




18:26:35 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE

18:26:48 WHOLLY TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

18:26:50 >> YES.

18:26:51 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

18:26:56 >> I'LL START MY PRESENTATION.

18:27:05 MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

18:27:09 COORDINATION.

18:27:09 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 3, REZ 20-55, A REZONING REQUEST AT

18:27:16 2709 WEST NORTH B STREET REQUESTING TO REZONE PROPERTY

18:27:20 FROM RM-16 TO RM-18.

18:27:23 I WILL HAND IT OVER TO JENNIFER MALONE TO MAKE HER

18:27:25 PRESENTATION.

18:27:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

18:27:30 PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

18:27:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:27:51 YOUR SCREEN IS COMING UP.

18:27:52 >> IT'S IN THE CENTRAL PLAN TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, ALSO

18:28:03 IN THE TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.

18:28:08 THE PARK IS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE SITE, ALSO IN A

18:28:14 LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.

18:28:16 THIS IS THE SITE JUST EAST OF -- AVENUE

18:28:25 THE ADOPTIVE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 20 WHICH DOES

18:28:29 ALLOW FOR MEDIAN DENSITY FOR ESSENTIAL USES SUCH AS

18:28:35 REQUESTED IN RM-18.

18:28:38 THE SUBJECT SITE, TO THE SOUTH IS THE URBAN DENSITY IN




18:28:45 THAT PURPLE.

18:28:54 PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE

18:28:55 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:29:01 IT IS TWO BLOCKS NORTH OF THE WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

18:29:06 WE DID FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND

18:29:09 IT IS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS ANTICIPATED UNDER

18:29:12 THE RESIDENTIAL 20.

18:29:16 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

18:29:17 THANK YOU.

18:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:29:20 GO AHEAD?

18:29:21 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?

18:29:38 THANK YOU.

18:29:39 AS I STATED THIS IS REZ 20-55.

18:29:41 THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS 2709 WEST NORTH B STREET

18:29:45 REQUESTING TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM THE CURRENT ZONING

18:29:48 DISTRICT TO RM-18.

18:29:51 THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT, SO THEREFORE NO

18:29:54 WAIVERS ARE PERMITTED.

18:29:56 HE'S ASKING JUST TO GO TO STRAIGHT RM-18 ZONING DISTRICT.

18:30:00 THE 7,816 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY IS LOCATED THREE BLOCKS TO

18:30:06 THE EAST OF NORTH B STREET AND NORTH HABANA AVENUE

18:30:11 INTERSECTION.

18:30:11 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY DETACHED

18:30:14 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WITH UNITS CONNECTED IN 1939




18:30:17 SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES ON ALL

18:30:21 SIDES, RM-16 ZONING DISTRICT.

18:30:24 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY SUBJECT

18:30:28 TO ALL APPLICABLE STANDARDS AT ZONING SECTION 241 AND IF

18:30:33 APPROVED ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE

18:30:35 REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE RM-18 ZONING DISTRICT.

18:30:39 HERE IS A ZONING MAP OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

18:30:41 THE APPLICATION SITE IS HERE IN RED. THE OVERWHELMING

18:30:46 MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA IS RM-16.

18:30:49 YOU CAN SEE HOW FAR TO THE WEST, THERE INDIVIDUAL

18:31:00 PROPERTIES REZONED OVER TO RM-18 OR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

18:31:14 JONATHAN SCOTT FROM TRANSPORTATION AND BILL BORS FROM

18:31:18 NATURAL RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY

18:31:21 QUESTIONS, AS AM I.

18:31:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS.

18:31:25 ALL RIGHT.

18:31:27 I HEAR NONE.

18:31:28 IS THE APPLICANT ON VIDEO AND AUDIO AND CAN HEAR US?

18:31:32 >> YES, SIR.

18:31:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

18:31:34 YOU MAY SPEAK.

18:31:35 >> I OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 20-PLUS YEARS.

18:31:42 AND THE IMPACT IS TO CONSTRUCT THREE MEDITERRANEAN STYLE

18:31:50 TOWNHOMES AND IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:31:56 RM 20.




18:31:57 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT.

18:31:58 WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR RM-18 SO WE CAN GET THOSE THREE

18:32:01 UNITS ON THERE WITH SETBACKS.

18:32:06 WE HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE OUR APPLICATION.

18:32:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:32:11 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

18:32:12 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

18:32:14 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

18:32:20 I DON'T KNOW IF MR. HEMMINGS HEARD THE PRESENTATION AT

18:32:23 THE BEGINNING OF THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING WITH RESPECT

18:32:25 TO THE CITY'S REQUEST THAT EACH APPLICANT WAIVE THE

18:32:29 180-DAY REQUIREMENT FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS TO BE

18:32:32 HEARD UNDER CHAPTER 166 AS WELL AS IN CHAPTER 27 OF THE

18:32:36 CODE, AND WE WOULD ASK MR. HEMMINGS TO CONFIRM ON THE

18:32:40 RECORD THAT HE AGREES TO THE WAIVER OF THE 180-DAY

18:32:44 REQUIREMENT.

18:32:45 >> I CONSENT.

18:32:48 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. HEMMING.

18:32:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

18:32:51 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

18:32:53 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT

18:32:56 WISHES TO SPEAK?

18:32:57 ANY RECORDED, E-MAIL, ANYTHING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

18:33:00 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?

18:33:03 ITEM NUMBER 3.




18:33:04 >> WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION TO SPEAK ON THIS

18:33:13 ITEM, BUT WE DID RECEIVE LETTERS.

18:33:18 AND FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VIEW ON

18:33:24 SIRE.

18:33:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THERE IS NOBODY IN THE

18:33:28 CONVENTION CENTER THAT IS GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

18:33:30 JUST TO MAKE SURE.

18:33:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THEY ONLINE?

18:33:37 >> THIS IS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

18:33:41 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

18:33:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

18:33:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:33:45 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS

18:33:47 TIME?

18:33:48 ANYTHING FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION

18:33:50 TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?

18:33:56 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:33:58 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

18:34:00 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:34:02 UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION.

18:34:05 HEARING NONE, THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

18:34:08 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THIS ITEM,

18:34:11 ITEM NUMBER 3?

18:34:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ 20-55.

18:34:21 AN ORDINANCE TO BE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING




18:34:23 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

18:34:25 GENERAL VICINITY OF -- EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND -- OF 2709

18:34:32 WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FLORIDA AND MORE

18:34:36 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

18:34:39 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM-18,

18:34:44 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND

18:34:49 THE PETITIONER DID MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN COMPLIANCE

18:34:53 WITH THE APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE

18:34:57 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS NOTED BY THE PLANNING

18:35:00 COMMISSION, COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN

18:35:03 THE CITY OF TAMPA.

18:35:04 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

18:35:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:35:06 DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION?

18:35:10 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

18:35:11 MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

18:35:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:35:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.

18:35:27 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

18:35:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:35:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:35:35 >>THE CLERK: (NO AUDIO).

18:35:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLERK?

18:35:58 YOU DIDN'T CALL THE FINAL TALLY.

18:36:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION DID NOT PASS WITH VIERA BEING




18:36:03 ABSENT, DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT VOTE, AND MANISCALCO

18:36:07 AND CARLSON VOTING NO.

18:36:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:36:11 DO WE NEED A MOTION NOW TO DENY THIS ITEM?

18:36:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, HERE IS THE QUESTION, COUNCIL.

18:36:16 LET ME REFER YOU TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR

18:36:22 QUASI-JUDICIAL VIRTUAL HEARINGS THAT WERE AMENDED ON

18:36:25 AUGUST 6th.

18:36:27 IT AMENDS RULE 6-H, AND NOW WHAT IT SAYS IS IF A MOTION

18:36:32 IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER FAILS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST FOUR

18:36:36 VOTES, THE MOTION FAILS, AND IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER

18:36:41 IS NOT MADE, THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY

18:36:43 REOPENED, BUT NOW SHALL BE CONTINUED TO A DATE AND TIME

18:36:47 CERTAIN SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL'S CALENDAR OF AVAILABLE

18:36:51 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING DATES.

18:36:53 SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHETHER ANOTHER MOTION IS MADE

18:37:00 DEPENDING ON COUNCIL'S' PLEASURE.

18:37:01 OTHERWISE, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED, AND THEN YOU HAVE

18:37:04 TO DETERMINE WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED.

18:37:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:37:09 DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION?

18:37:10 AND THIS MOTION WOULD BE FOR DENIAL.

18:37:13 DO WE HAVE A MOTION OF DENIAL?

18:37:15 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE

18:37:17 THE VOTES.




18:37:18 THE ONLY WAY THE OUTCOME WOULD CHANGE IS IF WE HAD ONE OR

18:37:21 TWO MORE PEOPLE.

18:37:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR,

18:37:24 THE HEARING WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE REOPENED AND WE WOULD

18:37:26 HAVE TO RESCHEDULE TO THE A LATER DATE.

18:37:29 AND AT THAT LATER DAUGHTER HOPEFULLY THERE'S ENOUGH

18:37:31 COUNCIL MEMBERS, AT LEAST SIX OR SEVEN, AVAILABLE.

18:37:35 SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?

18:37:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN AND MAYBE AT THE TIME

18:37:47 THE OTHER TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE HERE.

18:37:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, WOULD IT BE PROPER TO GO

18:37:53 ONTO ANOTHER ITEM AND WAIT UNTIL EITHER VIERA OR

18:37:57 DINGFELDER IS ON LINE?

18:37:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THEN WHY DON'T YOU REOPEN THIS BY

18:38:01 UNANIMOUS CONSENT, AND HOLD THIS ITEM.

18:38:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN FROM

18:38:06 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:38:07 IS THERE A SECOND?

18:38:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.

18:38:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM GUDES.

18:38:13 UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, THE HEARING IS OPEN.

18:38:15 WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE IT OPEN AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER

18:38:18 8.

18:38:20 I'M SORRY, ITEM NUMBER 4.

18:38:21 >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, IF WE LEAVE THIS OPEN AND THE




18:38:29 OTHER TWO COME BACK DON'T THEY HAVE TO HEAR ALL THE

18:38:32 EVIDENCE?

18:38:32 SO DON'T WE MOVE IT TO ANOTHER DATE?

18:38:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, CERTAINLY THEY WOULD NEED TO HEAR

18:38:38 THE EVIDENCE.

18:38:38 SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE PRESENTED IN A WAY WHERE THEY HAVE

18:38:42 THAT EVIDENCE.

18:38:42 THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PRESENTED FROM STAFF, AND FROM THE

18:38:47 PETITIONER.

18:38:48 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, SIR.

18:38:50 SO IF THAT IS AN USUAL YOU, THEN COUNCIL MAY WANT TO

18:38:53 RECONSIDER WHAT IT DOES.

18:38:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH MR. CARLSON'S MOTION.

18:39:03 HOWEVER, FROM THE CONVERSATION WE HAD IT LOOKS LIKE THE

18:39:06 MEETINGS IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY

18:39:09 FULL.

18:39:09 SO IF WE ONLY HAVE TWO OR THREE LEFT HERE TODAY, MAYBE IF

18:39:13 ONE OR TWO OF THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARRIVE

18:39:16 BEFORE THAT, WE CAN DISPENSE WITH THIS ONE WAY OR THE

18:39:19 OTHER.

18:39:19 THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

18:39:21 IT DOESN'T TAKE FIVE MINUTES TO LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE.

18:39:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN MOVE ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA

18:39:28 ITEM AND COME BACK.

18:39:30 >> WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING.




18:39:32 WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN AND MOVE ON TO NUMBER 4 AND PERHAPS

18:39:35 BY THEN MR. DINGFELDER WILL HAVE CONNECTED AND WE'LL

18:39:39 FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.

18:39:40 ITEM 4.

18:39:41 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 46 --

18:39:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.

18:39:48 IF IT'S A NEW ITEM, WE NEED TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES.

18:39:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

18:39:52 BEFORE WE BEGIN, ITEM NUMBER 4, AND I WILL ASK THIS

18:39:55 BEFORE EVERY ITEM HERE AFTER.

18:39:58 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?

18:40:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.

18:40:06 ON THE SCREEN HERE, I THINK YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S

18:40:09 HAPPENING.

18:40:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

18:40:11 SIR, PER THE RULES, PER THIS VIRTUAL MEETING, THE MOTION

18:40:15 DID NOT RECEIVE ENOUGH VOTES TO MOVE FORWARD.

18:40:19 AND THERE WAS NOT A MOTION OF DENIAL.

18:40:23 WHAT WE DO IS REOPEN THE HEARING, THEN HOLD ONTO IT AND

18:40:26 MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM, BECAUSE WE ARE WAITING ON TWO

18:40:29 COUNCIL MEMBERS.

18:40:30 ONCE THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE COUNCIL

18:40:33 MEMBERS, GETS BACK ON THE MEETING, WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH

18:40:35 PEOPLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE A VOTE WHERE WE CAN

18:40:39 SETTLE THIS TONIGHT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.




18:40:41 SO WE ARE GOING TO PUT YOU ON STANDBY.

18:40:45 WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM AND THEN COME BACK

18:40:47 TO YOU AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN ONCE WE GET MORE COUNCIL

18:40:50 MEMBERS ONLINE.

18:40:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU GET THAT, SIR?

18:40:53 >> YES, SIR.

18:40:56 WE ARE SHORT ONE VOTE.

18:40:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE HAVE ONE MORE COUNCIL MEMBER,

18:41:00 THE VOTE CAN GO -- WE CAN SETTLE IT BETTER.

18:41:04 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WILL BE COMING ONLINE AT 6:50.

18:41:09 AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS SOME CONNECTIVITY PROBLEMS.

18:41:11 HE'S TRYING TO FIX THAT.

18:41:13 SO ONCE WE GET THEM ONLINE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS

18:41:19 ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

18:41:20 >> VERY GOOD.

18:41:24 ALL RIGHT.

18:41:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WAS THIS, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

18:41:32 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ANY EVIDENCE

18:41:34 IN THIS CASE OR WOULD YOU LIKE US-TO GUN NOW?

18:41:41 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 3.

18:41:43 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ARE YOU MUTED?

18:41:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

18:42:00 ALL RIGHT.

18:42:06 THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THERE.

18:42:07 LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4.




18:42:09 VIERA WILL BE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES AS WELL.

18:42:11 ITEM NUMBER 4, BEFORE YOU SPEAK, MAKE SURE YOU ARE SWORN

18:42:14 IN.

18:42:14 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

18:42:18 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE

18:42:21 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

18:42:24 >> I DO.

18:42:25 >> I DO.

18:42:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:42:28 GO AHEAD.

18:42:28 >> THIS IS JOHN LAROCCA.

18:42:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WE GO WITH MARY FIRST.

18:42:36 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR PRESENTATION

18:42:37 FIRST, JOHN.

18:42:39 MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

18:42:41 COORDINATION, ITEM NUMBER REZ 20-48.

18:42:44 IT'S AN APPLICATION AT 3110 AND 3112 WEST BAY TO BAY

18:42:49 BOULEVARD AND 3109 WEST SANTIAGO STREET.

18:42:53 THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM-16 AND

18:42:58 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

18:43:00 I DEFER TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

18:43:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

18:43:05 PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

18:43:11 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,

18:43:23 ZONE D.




18:43:24 THERE IS A LIMITED HART EXPRESS ROUTE .4 MILES FROM THE

18:43:28 SUBJECT SITE, ALSO IN THE PALMA CEIA NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:43:35 THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY RAMP PROVIDES -- FOR THE SUBJECT

18:43:40 SITE, AWAY -- TO THE SOUTH.

18:43:46 [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] THIS IS BAY TO BAY. THIS IS THE

18:43:48 SUBJECT SITE.

18:43:52 FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS COMMUNITY

18:43:55 COMMERCIAL 35, THAT COLOR, THAT ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL

18:43:58 INTENSIVE USES, FOR FUTURE LAND USE TRANSITION TO

18:44:02 COMMUNITY MIXED USE ALONG WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD, TO

18:44:07 THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THERE IS RESIDENTIAL 20,

18:44:10 FUTURE LAND USE.

18:44:11 THERE ARE RESIDENCES HERE, AS MENTIONED EARLIER.

18:44:16 THE OFF-RAMP DOES PROVIDE BUFFERING FOR THE SITE.

18:44:22 PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE

18:44:24 PLAN AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE -- [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] WE

18:44:32 DID FIND THAT THE SURROUNDING AREA ESPECIALLY WITHIN THIS

18:44:37 INTERSECTION IS APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE

18:44:39 USES, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

18:44:47 >> COME HERE.

18:44:53 WAIT.

18:44:54 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IF YOU COULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

18:45:00 AGAIN, THIS IS REZ 20-48, REZONING REQUEST FROM

18:45:04 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- I'M

18:45:07 SORRY, FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 AND PLANNED




18:45:11 DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

18:45:12 THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING SO THEREFORE NO WAIVERS ARE

18:45:15 PERMITTED.

18:45:17 AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3110 AND 3112 WEST BAY

18:45:21 TO BAY BOULEVARD, AS WELL AS 3109 WEST SANTIAGO STREET.

18:45:29 20,000 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY IS LOCATED THREE BLOCKS TO

18:45:31 THE EAST OF WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD, AND SOUTH OF

18:45:35 ESPERANZA AVENUE INTERSECTION, OCCUPIED BY SEMI-DETACHED

18:45:40 RESIDENCE AT 31 ON THE WEST SANTIAGO STREET CONSTRUCTED

18:45:44 IN 1968.

18:45:46 THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AT 3112 WEST BAY TO BAY

18:45:51 BOULEVARD WAS REZONED IN 2007 FOR MULTIFAMILY RM-16 AND

18:45:58 CI TO PD, FILE NUMBER 0772 TO ALLOW FOR BUSINESS

18:46:04 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE.

18:46:08 THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WAS NEVER DEVELOPED.

18:46:09 THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT ALL THREE

18:46:13 ADDRESSES TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT

18:46:18 CONSISTENT WITHIN COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT,

18:46:22 SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE WEST EAST,

18:46:26 RESTAURANT TO THE WEST, AND CI ZONING DISTRICT, AND NORTH

18:46:29 IN THE CG ZONING DISTRICT IN THE SELMON BAY TO BAY RAMP.

18:46:34 ANY DEVELOPED THAT WOULD OCCUR ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD

18:46:38 HAVE TO APPLY -- COMPLY WITH ALL CI STANDARDS.

18:46:42 THE STAFF REPORT SAYS CG.

18:46:45 IT SHOULD SAY CI.




18:46:48 THE REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH

18:46:51 THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

18:46:52 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

18:46:54 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

18:46:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:46:57 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

18:46:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

18:47:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I CAN.

18:47:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD DEAL.

18:47:10 SORRY FOR MY --

18:47:13 >>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

18:47:14 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

18:47:16 ALL RIGHT.

18:47:18 WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.

18:47:18 >> JOHN LAROCCA: I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNERS OF THE

18:47:30 PROPERTY AT 3110, 3112 BAY TO BAY AND 3109 WEST SANTIAGO

18:47:39 STREET.

18:47:41 BOTH REPORTS PREPARED BY MARY SAMANIEGO AND JENNIFER

18:47:44 MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION, AND MARY'S PLANNING DESIGN

18:47:52 DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ACCURATELY REPRESENT THE

18:47:54 CONDITIONS THAT EXIST AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

18:47:57 I REFER TO THAT REPORT.

18:47:58 I HAVE NOTHING TO DISPLAY ON MINE.

18:48:01 AND BEFORE I GO ON, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND WE AGREE TO

18:48:05 THE 180-DAY RECORD, ON THE RECORD.




18:48:08 WITH THAT SEWED, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WHAT IS

18:48:11 INTERESTING ABOUT IT, IF YOU SIMPLY LOOK AT THE

18:48:14 COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION, CMU-35, AND THE

18:48:18 UNDERLYING ZONING, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A MIXED

18:48:23 USE CORRIDOR IN A CLUSTER OR NODE OF COMMUNITY MIXED

18:48:28 USES, AND CI ZONING.

18:48:30 THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING, IN THIS CASE, FOUR

18:48:35 PLATTED LOTS OF RECORD ZONED AS MARY INDICATED, PD,

18:48:40 RM-16, THAT ARE NOT ZONED CI.

18:48:43 IT IS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO MAKE THE ZONING

18:48:47 CONSISTENT AND BEGIN THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR FUTURE

18:48:52 POTENTIAL OFFICE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

18:48:57 THERE ARE NO IMMEDIATE PLANS AT THIS TIME.

18:48:59 IT'S A MATTER OF BRINGING THE PROPERTY.

18:49:01 THE CURRENT APPLICANT WAS NOT THE APPLICANT OR OWNER OF

18:49:04 THE PROPERTY THAT WAS REZONED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THAT

18:49:07 WAS REFERENCED BY MARY.

18:49:11 THE CORRIDOR CAN ACCOMMODATE A VARIETY OF MIXED USES.

18:49:16 THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A EUCLIDEAN

18:49:21 DISTRICT, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT ARE PREPARED AT SOME

18:49:24 POINT IN THE FUTURE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL

18:49:26 APPLICABLE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN EFFECT AT THE

18:49:30 TIME, INCLUDING TREE AND LANDSCAPING.

18:49:33 WE HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSION WAS THE NATURAL RESOURCES

18:49:35 DEPARTMENT, AND WE KNOW THAT ALL DEVELOPMENTS GET




18:49:42 SCRUTINIZED.

18:49:43 THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THAT.

18:49:45 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS ZONING

18:49:48 TO CI TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE ZONING,

18:49:54 IF NOT ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL ZONINGS THAT EXIST IN THAT

18:49:57 AREA. ONE THING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, THE SANTIAGO

18:50:00 STREET ACCESS AND PROPERTY THAT FRONTS THAT STREET, FOR

18:50:04 ANYBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW THAT RAMP WORKS OFF OF THE

18:50:06 SELMON EXPRESSWAY, THE BAY TO BAY RAMP, THE EXIT RAMP, IT

18:50:12 SERVES REALLY AS A BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE

18:50:14 SOUTH, AND SANTIAGO STREET THAT SERVES THE EXISTING USES

18:50:20 ON BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD.

18:50:21 IT REALLY SERVES AS AN ACCESS ROAD.

18:50:24 THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT -- AND I KNOW I HAD COPIES OF

18:50:30 THIS LETTER BUT THOUGH SHOULD BE PUT IN THE RECORD.

18:50:33 TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT, ONE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER

18:50:36 IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST.

18:50:37 THE OTHER FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT

18:50:39 HOUSES THE NURSERY PLANT AT THE END OF THE STREET,

18:50:45 SANTIAGO, NORTHWEST CORNER OF SANTIAGO AND BAY TO BAY.

18:50:49 AGAIN, THE BEST TELLTALE SIGN OF HOW THIS PROPOSAL IS

18:50:55 CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG RANGE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE

18:50:59 ZONING AND LAND USE PLAN THAT'S ESTABLISHED THERE.

18:51:01 I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

18:51:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?




18:51:09 I HEAR NO ONE.

18:51:10 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

18:51:13 THIS ITEM?

18:51:14 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

18:51:17 THIS ITEM?

18:51:18 >> PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

18:51:21 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

18:51:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:51:25 IS ANY WRITTEN DOCUMENT BEEN RECEIVED AND FILED?

18:51:30 >> YES, THERE HAS.

18:51:32 IT'S ALL ON SIRE.

18:51:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:51:35 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

18:51:37 I HEAR NONE.

18:51:37 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?

18:51:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE.

18:51:42 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND, CARLSON.

18:51:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN

18:51:46 GUDES.

18:51:47 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

18:51:48 UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

18:51:54 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A THIS

18:51:57 ITEM,ITEM NUMBER 4?

18:51:58 >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE REZ 20-58, ORDINANCE

18:52:05 BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN




18:52:07 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

18:52:10 3110 AND 3112 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AND 3109 WEST

18:52:16 SANTIAGO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE

18:52:18 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

18:52:21 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND PD

18:52:24 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE PROVIDING

18:52:27 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

18:52:29 THE CITY STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION BOTH FOUND THIS

18:52:35 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE RULES AND

18:52:39 CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

18:52:41 AND WITH THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED RECOMMEND MOVING THIS

18:52:47 FORWARD.

18:52:47 THANK YOU.

18:52:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.

18:52:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY MR. CARLSON.

18:52:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:52:54 ROLL CALL VOTE.

18:52:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

18:53:07 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?

18:53:08 DINGFELDER?

18:53:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

18:53:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:53:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

18:53:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

18:53:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AND




18:53:22 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

18:53:25 SOAKED READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER

18:53:27 10th AT 5:01 P.M.

18:53:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:53:33 WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8.

18:53:36 ITEM NUMBER 8.

18:53:37 REMEMBER, BEFORE YOU SPEAK, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN

18:53:39 IN, YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN.

18:53:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.

18:53:47 FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE VIRTUAL HEARING, WE WOULD LIKE

18:53:49 EVERYBODY SWORN IN, THE HEARINGS ARE TREATED SEPARATELY

18:53:55 SO THAT EVERYBODY IS SWORN IN.

18:53:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

18:53:58 YES, SIR.

18:53:58 >>JIM CREW: CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

18:54:01 THE PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE HAS NOT SIGNED INTO THE

18:54:05 MEETING, MR. TRUETT GARDNER.

18:54:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GARDNER.

18:54:09 SO WE CANNOT PROCEED WITHOUT MR. GARDNER.

18:54:12 ALL RIGHT.

18:54:13 WE WILL SKIP OVER TO ITEM NUMBER 10 AND COME BACK TO ITEM

18:54:16 NUMBER 8 TO GIVE MR. GARDNER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN IN.

18:54:23 ITEM NUMBER 10.

18:54:26 AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, YOU WILL HAVE TO BE

18:54:28 SWORN IN.




18:54:28 IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK OR PRESENT.

18:54:30 ITEM NUMBER 10.

18:54:40 WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 10?

18:54:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAS EVERYBODY BEEN SWORN?

18:54:48 >> CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?

18:55:02 >>JIM CREW: THE APPLICANT HAS NOT TURNED ON HER

18:55:04 MICROPHONE.

18:55:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:55:07 >>JIM CREW: MICROPHONE, VIDEO.

18:55:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

18:55:15 FOR ITEM NUMBER 10, THE APPLICANT I BELIEVE IS CHRIS

18:55:22 BECKWITH.

18:55:23 PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND MICROPHONE SO WE CAN SWEAR

18:55:26 YOU ALL IN.

18:55:27 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

18:55:34 CHRIS BECKWITH IS ON THE LINE.

18:55:36 IF YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.

18:55:45 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

18:55:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

18:55:50 ALL RIGHT, MR. CREW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN

18:55:53 FOR ITEM 10?

18:55:55 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH,

18:55:58 THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

18:56:01 >> I DO.

18:56:03 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.




18:56:04 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 10 IS REZ 20-50, A

18:56:09 REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2820 NORTH CENTRAL

18:56:12 COURT FROM RS-50 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO DETACHED

18:56:16 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.

18:56:19 PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BEGIN THE PRESENTATION.

18:56:23 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I AM READY TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

18:56:43 (BACKGROUND NOISE).

18:56:45 >> THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.

18:56:55 FUTURE LAND USE FROM RESIDENTIAL 10.

18:57:05 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE.

18:57:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER.

18:57:14 I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

18:57:17 CAN YOU MUTE YOUR PHONE SO I CAN HEAR?

18:57:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S SOMEONE WITH BACKGROUND

18:57:22 NOISE, IF YOU CAN MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE IF YOU ARE NOT

18:57:24 SPEAKING AT THIS TIME.

18:57:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:57:30 NO, I CAN STILL HEAR IT.

18:57:33 MUTE YOURSELF IF YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING.

18:57:37 ALL RIGHT.

18:57:39 GO AHEAD.

18:57:40 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

18:57:47 YOU CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF ANYBODY DID

18:57:50 NOT HEAR WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER.

18:57:52 BUT THIS IS IN THE TAMPA BAY HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE




18:57:54 BETWEEN THE INTERSTATE 275 AND FLORIDA AVENUE.

18:57:57 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10 WHICH

18:58:01 ALLOWS FOR THE REQUEST OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, AND

18:58:08 PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS

18:58:11 REQUEST.

18:58:12 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LARGER.

18:58:17 BUT THE APPLICANT -- WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:58:24 THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

18:58:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:58:27 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MALONE?

18:58:32 HEARING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:58:34 WE'LL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SPEAKER.

18:58:40 WHICH IS MS. SAMANIEGO.

18:58:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.

18:58:53 I WILL BEGIN MY PRESENTATION.

18:58:55 AGAIN, THIS IS REZ 20-50.

18:58:58 A REZONE REQUESTING FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2820 NORTH

18:59:01 CENTRAL COURT, CURRENTLY ZONED RS-50.

18:59:04 THEY ARE REQUESTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SINGLE-FAMILY

18:59:07 DETACHED LOT.

18:59:10 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.

18:59:14 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST END OF NORTH

18:59:17 CENTRAL COURT DEAD-END ROADWAY AND THIS IS SUNG WILL

18:59:21 OWNERSHIP WITH 2824 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE TO THE EAST.

18:59:25 THE LOT TO THE EAST HAS AN EXISTING RESIDENCE, 2824 NORTH




18:59:29 CENTRAL AVENUE, WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING

18:59:33 RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.

18:59:35 IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.

18:59:38 THE CREATION OF THE NEW LOT, 2820 NORTH CENTRAL COURT,

18:59:43 MUST BE COMPLETED THROUGH THIS REZONING PROCESS AS A

18:59:45 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO CREATE A LOT AT THE END OF THE

18:59:48 DEAD-END RIGHT-OF-WAY.

18:59:50 THE PROPOSED LOT IS 11,003 SQUARE FEET IN AREA WITH

18:59:55 DIMENSIONS OF 90 FEET TO THE WEST AND EAST AND 122 FEET

19:00:01 ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH WITH 15 FEET OF FRONTAGE AT THE

19:00:04 END OF NORTH CENTRAL COURT.

19:00:06 THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SETBACKS OF THE DWELLING

19:00:10 UNIT ARE NORTH 15 FEET, SOUTH 7 FEET, EAST 53 FEET AND

19:00:15 WEST 23 FEET WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.

19:00:20 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

19:00:24 THE SITE PLAN AGAIN IS JUST FOR ONE LOT.

19:00:26 THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS LOCAL HISTORIC

19:00:31 DISTRICT.

19:00:31 THE PURPOSE OF THE PD BEFORE YOU TODAY IS JUST TO CREATE

19:00:34 THE LOT.

19:00:36 ANY SPECIFICS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, THE

19:00:40 PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS,

19:00:43 WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC

19:00:45 DISTRICT, AND AFTER ZONING APPROVAL, PRIOR TO PERMITTING,

19:00:50 THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MADE AWARE THEY MUST GO BEFORE THE




19:00:53 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION TO SEEK COMPLIANCE FOR

19:00:58 THE ARCHITECTURE AND BUILDING IMPROVEMENT THROUGH THE

19:01:01 ARC.

19:01:02 HERE IS NORTH END OF NORTH CENTRAL COURT.

19:01:06 HERE IS THE DRIVEWAY.

19:01:07 AGAIN THE DRIVEWAY COMES IN, AND GRADING A SPOT FOR ONE

19:01:12 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.

19:01:17 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED.

19:01:21 YOU CAN SEE IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.

19:01:26 THIS IS THE MAP I'M SHOWING YOU, KIND OF THE PLATTED

19:01:29 SITUATION.

19:01:29 AGAIN, IT'S ON A DEAD-END ROAD.

19:01:32 KIND OF IN A MIX OF AREAS WITH SMALLER PLATS THAT HAVE

19:01:37 BEEN PLATTED OVER TIME.

19:01:38 AND AT ONE POINT, THE ROAD WAS NEVER DEVELOPED AS SUCH.

19:01:45 THERE'S A HOUSE DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.

19:01:48 AND AGAIN THERE'S THE HOUSE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.

19:01:52 SO THIS WOULD BE CREATING A NEW LOT AT THE DEAD-END ROAD.

19:01:56 THE REASON AGAIN WHY WE ARE DOING A PD IS EVEN THOUGH

19:02:01 IT'S AN RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE MINIMUM

19:02:04 50-FOOT LOT WIDTH AT THE END OF THE DEAD-END.

19:02:08 HERE IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AGAIN.

19:02:11 HERE IS CENTRAL COURT.

19:02:13 AND SHOWING THE DEAD-END.

19:02:16 IT'S PART OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HE'S REQUIRED TO




19:02:18 COMPLY WITH TRANSPORTATION, AND HE'S REQUIRED AND IT'S

19:02:21 SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN TO DO A TURNAROUND AT THE END OF

19:02:24 THIS DEAD-END ROAD FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

19:02:27 HERE IS THE NEIGHBOR TO THE DIRECT EAST.

19:02:29 THIS IS THE BACK OF THE HOUSE THAT FACES CENTRAL AVENUE.

19:02:34 AT 2824 CENTRAL AVENUE.

19:02:38 HERE IS PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ACROSS CENTRAL COURT.

19:02:41 AND DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH IS ANOTHER VACANT LOT.

19:02:46 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS PLANNED

19:02:49 DEVELOPMENT.

19:02:53 THERE IS ONE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

19:02:58 THERE IS ONE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK WITHIN A THOUSAND

19:03:00 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.

19:03:01 HOUSE OF PRAYER WHICH IS LOCATED AT 2708 NORTH CENTRAL

19:03:05 AVENUE.

19:03:08 SAYING THAT, OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE

19:03:10 STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA LAND

19:03:14 DEVELOPMENT CODE PENDING REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND

19:03:19 SECOND READING.

19:03:20 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

19:03:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:03:23 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

19:03:27 I HEAR NONE SO WE WILL GO TO THE PETITIONER.

19:03:30 PETITIONER, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

19:03:33 AND IF YOU ARE ON, GO AHEAD AND PRESENT.




19:03:36 >> MY NAME IS CHRIS BECKWITH.

19:03:40 GOOD EVENING.

19:03:41 MARY ACTUALLY EXPLAINED PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING QUITE

19:03:43 THOROUGHLY.

19:03:43 WE ARE JUST LOOKING TO GET THE LOCALITY REZONED SO THAT I

19:03:46 CAN BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.

19:03:48 IT'S ACTUALLY FOR ME PERSONALLY.

19:03:50 FOR ME AND MY WIFE.

19:03:52 IT'S A UNIQUE LOT, NO GOOD SPOT.

19:03:55 YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL FROM THAT SITE PLAN,

19:03:57 THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE SIDES, THE NORTH SIDE, THE WEST

19:04:00 SIDE AND EAST SIDE ALL HAVE HOUSES THAT THAT'S THEIR

19:04:04 BACKYARD SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR KIND OF THE L SHAPE

19:04:07 TOTE HOUSE AND LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S AT A DEAD-END.

19:04:10 I MET WITH EVERYBODY IN EACH DEPARTMENT.

19:04:12 THEY HAVE ASKED ME FOR EACH THING THAT THEY NEEDED ON

19:04:14 THAT SITE PLAN.

19:04:15 I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

19:04:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

19:04:18 >> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE.

19:04:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

19:04:23 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

19:04:24 >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, AT

19:04:30 THE BEGINNING, I HAD ASKED EACH APPLICANT, I DON'T KNOW

19:04:35 IF MR. BECKWITH HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR IT, DUE TO




19:04:39 EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES PRESENTED BY COVID-19 THE CITY

19:04:42 HAS AGREED TO WAIVE THE 180-DAY PERIOD FOR COMPLETION OF

19:04:47 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.

19:04:49 IT'S ESTABLISHED BY STATUTE AS WELL IN CHAPTER 27.

19:04:53 WE ARE ASKING EACH APPLICANT AS PART OF THEIR

19:04:56 PRESENTATION TO CONSENT TO A WAIVER OF THAT 180-DAY

19:05:00 REQUIREMENT.

19:05:02 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

19:05:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:05:06 DO YOU CONSENT?

19:05:07 >> YES.

19:05:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:05:09 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, COULD I ASK A QUESTION?

19:05:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

19:05:14 >>BILL CARLSON: IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT ONE PIECE OF PUBLIC

19:05:17 COMMENT, AND IN THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IT SAYS THERE'S NO

19:05:19 ACCESS -- IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE MAP THERE IS ACCESS CAN

19:05:24 SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHERE THERE IS OR ISN'T?

19:05:33 I THINK YOUR MUTE IS ON.

19:05:34 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I KNOW.

19:05:37 I'M SORRY.

19:05:38 YES, THERE IS ACCESS, SHOWED ON THE SITE PLAN AND

19:05:41 EXPLAINED THIS IS AT THE VERY END OF CENTRAL COURT.

19:05:44 SO THEIR PRIVATE DRIVEWAY WHICH HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE

19:05:50 CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WILL COME AT THE




19:05:52 END OF THAT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY DEAD-END.

19:05:56 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE --

19:06:01 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE TURNAROUND FOR THAT DEAD-END SO IF

19:06:03 ANYBODY COMES THROUGH THE HE HAD DEAD-END THAT DOESN'T

19:06:06 NECESSARILY WANT TO GO TO THE APPLICANT'S HOUSE, THEY CAN

19:06:09 MAKE A 3 POINT TURN AND EXIT THAT DEAD-END ROAD.

19:06:12 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

19:06:13 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION ON

19:06:15 THE RECORD.

19:06:16 I THINK MOST OF THE OTHER COMMENTS ARE AROUND ARC WHICH

19:06:21 ARC IS GOING TO --

19:06:24 >>> AND THAT'S A GREAT PICTURE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE I SEE

19:06:27 BEHIND YOU, COUNCILMAN.

19:06:32 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

19:06:34 I HEAR NONE.

19:06:35 IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC, AT THE CONVENTION

19:06:37 CENTER, THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

19:06:39 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 10.

19:06:41 >> THIS IS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

19:06:45 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

19:06:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:06:50 IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT?

19:06:54 >>JIM CREW: CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

19:06:55 THERE ARE FIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE REGISTERED TO GIVE

19:06:58 PUBLIC COMMENT.




19:06:58 YOU WILL MOVE THEM OVER ONE AT A TIME TO BE SWORN IN AND

19:07:02 TO SPEAK.

19:07:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

19:07:05 >>JIM CREW: FIRST IS MARY BATAYON WHO I WILL ADD TO THE

19:07:10 MEETING NOW.

19:07:18 IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR CAMERA AND AUDIO ON TO BE SWORN

19:07:27 IN.

19:07:28 >> HELLO?

19:07:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

19:07:31 WE CAN HEAR YOU.

19:07:32 CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON?

19:07:34 >> OH, HERE WE ARE.

19:07:35 OKAY, THANK YOU.

19:07:37 FIRST TIME FOR A ROOKIE.

19:07:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.

19:07:41 WE CAN SEE YOU NOW.

19:07:41 >> GOOD EVENING.

19:07:44 I SENT IN A POWER POINT.

19:07:46 IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT UP ON THE SCREEN?

19:07:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WERE YOU SWORN IN, MA'AM?

19:07:53 MR. CREW, WAS SHE SWORN IN?

19:07:55 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

19:07:58 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE

19:08:01 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

19:08:03 >> I DO.




19:08:04 THANK YOU.

19:08:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

19:08:07 >> MY NAME IS MARY, 2812 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.

19:08:15 I WANT TO MAKE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AWARE OF HOW

19:08:19 FRUSTRATING THIS HAS BEEN FOR THE RESIDENTS.

19:08:22 WE WERE TOLD BY CITY STAFF ON TUESDAY, I WAS TOLD

19:08:26 DIRECTLY BY CITY STAFF, WITH INFORMATION FROM MARY

19:08:31 SAMANIEGO THAT PD, SINGLE LOTS AND SINGLE DWELLING, ARE

19:08:38 IN FACT EXEMPT FROM ARC REVIEW.

19:08:42 NEEDLESS TO SAY THAT WAS INCREDIBLY DISTRESSING NEWS TO

19:08:46 US TWO DAYS AGO.

19:08:48 AND MANY OF US HAVE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME PREPARING

19:08:50 FOR THIS TO TRY TO IMPRESS UPON CITY COUNCIL THAT OUR

19:08:55 HISTORIC DISTRICT PROTECTION AND PROCESS FOR NEW

19:08:59 CONSTRUCTION WHICH NEEDS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE

19:09:03 EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HEIGHTS

19:09:06 DESIGN GUIDELINES AND EVERYTHING THAT I WOULD HAVE TO DO

19:09:09 IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 20

19:09:13 YEARS.

19:09:14 I AM ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT THE PROCESS IS

19:09:16 GOING TO BE SERVED, BUT YOU ARE NOT SERVING THE PUBLIC

19:09:19 WELL CITY STAFF WHEN YOU ARE TELLING THEM ONE THING ON

19:09:21 TUESDAY AND SOMETHING ELSE, MS. SAMANIEGO.

19:09:31 -- THE ARC GOING FORWARD.

19:09:34 THANK YOU.




19:09:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:09:36 MR. CREW, NEXT SPEAKER, AND OF COURSE SWEAR THAT

19:09:39 INDIVIDUAL THEN.

19:09:40 >>JIM CREW: THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE NANCY KILLIAN, WHO

19:09:51 I AM MOVING INTO THE MEETING NOW.

19:09:56 IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR MICROPHONE AND CAMERA ON AND BE

19:10:00 SWORN IN, PLEASE.

19:10:01 >> HI.

19:10:06 I'M NANCY KILLIAN.

19:10:09 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

19:10:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

19:10:10 YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR CAMERA ON AND THEN THE CLERK IS

19:10:13 GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.

19:10:19 WE CAN SEE YOU.

19:10:20 THEY ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN NOW.

19:10:22 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

19:10:25 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLLY

19:10:27 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

19:10:29 >> YES.

19:10:32 I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF -- THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR

19:10:38 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE, AS WELL AS I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES

19:10:45 ADJACENT TO THIS SUBDIVISION.

19:10:49 SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I HAVE

19:10:54 THE PROPERTY NEXT AGAINST THIS ONE THAT'S WEST OF THE

19:11:04 BLOCK AND THEN THE ONE THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE




19:11:08 CENTRAL PROPERTY THAT IS 411 EAST ROBLES, AND SO I HAVE

19:11:14 TWO PROPERTIES.

19:11:15 I ALSO HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE LOT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO

19:11:22 BE BEHIND IN MY BACKYARD WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE, IF

19:11:31 THE POTENTIAL STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE 35 FEET, IT IS

19:11:35 ACTUALLY PROBABLY GOING TO DECREASE MY PROPERTY VALUES

19:11:38 BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE MOVING INTO MY BACKYARD.

19:11:41 SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME NOTIFICATION PRIOR TO

19:11:46 GETTING APPROVAL OF THE ARC.

19:11:49 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THAT WOULD BE

19:11:52 SOMETHING THAT I HOPE CAN BE DONE.

19:11:54 BUT MORE CONCERNING, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL SINKHOLES IN

19:12:01 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:12:02 AND IN RECENT PAST, THERE WAS A HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT NEXT

19:12:07 TO THE PROPOSED LOT WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO SUBDIVIDE AND

19:12:15 PUT ANOTHER HOUSE.

19:12:18 AND MY CONCERN IS IN FACT THERE HAS NOW BEEN POTENTIALLY

19:12:24 IN MY BACKYARD, AND FROM WHAT I THINK IS DUE TO THE

19:12:28 WELL-BEING DUG FROM THE OTHER PROPERTY.

19:12:35 SO I FEEL LIKE UNTIL THE SURVEYS HAVE BEEN DONE, TO

19:12:40 FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE SINKHOLES ARE COMING FROM, IN THE

19:12:47 NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:12:47 I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A CITY COUNCIL QUESTION TO MAKE

19:12:51 SURE THAT IT'S DONE PRIOR TO HAVING ANOTHER LOT

19:12:54 SUBDIVIDED.




19:12:56 SO I JUST WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE FOR THE SAFETY OF

19:13:01 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:13:02 THAT'S MY CONCERN.

19:13:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:13:08 NEXT SPEAKER, MR. CREW.

19:13:10 >>JIM CREW: THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JOHN HERPST.

19:13:21 I AM MOVING HIM NOW INTO THE MEETING.

19:13:28 IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE AND VIDEO AND BE

19:13:31 SWORN IN, PLEASE.

19:13:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

19:13:53 IF YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.

19:13:56 >> IT SHOULD BE ON.

19:13:58 THERE WE GO.

19:13:58 I THINK WE ARE READY.

19:14:03 CAN YOU SEE ME?

19:14:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CANNOT SEE YOU.

19:14:07 >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

19:14:08 THERE WE GO.

19:14:09 >> NOW WE CAN SEE YOU.

19:14:11 THE CLERK IS GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.

19:14:13 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

19:14:16 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH

19:14:20 AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

19:14:21 >> YES, I DO.

19:14:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE




19:14:24 RECORD WE WILL BEGIN.

19:14:25 >> MY NAME IS JOHN HERPST, 2714 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE IN

19:14:31 TAMPA HEIGHTS.

19:14:33 MY ONLY CONCERN WAS THE LACK OF ARC OVERSIGHT, AND GLAD

19:14:39 TO SEE IT HAS BEEN CHANGED AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE

19:14:43 FUTURE PLAN.

19:14:44 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY TONIGHT.

19:14:45 THANK YOU.

19:14:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

19:14:53 THE NEXT SPEAKER, MR. CREW.

19:14:55 I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO MORE.

19:14:57 >>JIM CREW: YES, SIR.

19:15:10 ONE JUST SIGNED INTO THE MEETING.

19:15:11 AND I WILL TRANSFER HER OVER NOW.

19:15:15 THAT IS DIANE WILLIAMS.

19:15:27 MS. WILLIAMS, IF YOU WOULD TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE AND

19:15:29 CAMERA AND BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.

19:15:48 >> CAN YOU SEE ME?

19:15:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.

19:15:52 WE CAN HEAR YOU.

19:15:53 >> OKAY.

19:15:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THE CAMERA IS NOT ON YET.

19:16:03 THERE WE GO.

19:16:05 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.

19:16:07 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOU'RE RIGHT HAND.




19:16:10 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE

19:16:12 WHOLLY TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

19:16:14 >> I DO.

19:16:14 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

19:16:18 >> GREETINGS, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

19:16:20 MY NAME IS DIANE WILLIAMS.

19:16:21 AND I AM A HOMEOWNER AT 2820 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.

19:16:26 MS. SAMANIEGO HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS AND I DO

19:16:31 APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I HAVE PREPARED A NOTE OF MY OWN

19:16:35 FOR MY PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

19:16:36 MAY I SHARE THAT WITH YOU AT THIS TIME?

19:16:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

19:16:39 >> I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT AT 2020 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE

19:16:43 FOR 39 YEARS, AND AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW IN 1995, I

19:16:48 WAS LISTED ON A NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES AND

19:16:52 LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICT.

19:16:55 AS A RESIDENT I WAS EXTREMELY PROUD OF THIS DISTINCTION,

19:16:58 KNOWING THAT MY NEIGHBOR WHO WAS A RESERVED AREA IN THE

19:17:02 CITY OF TAMPA, A LONG WITH MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS, WE

19:17:05 STOPPED TO HONOR -- AND WOULD RETAIN A HIGH DEGREE OF

19:17:13 HISTORIC ACTIVITY. THIS DESIGNATION SHOULD BE PROTECTED,

19:17:16 AND PROTECTED AND ENHANCED PROPERTY VALUE AS WELL AS

19:17:20 PRESERVE THE PHYSICAL HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

19:17:23 I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ARC'S RESTRICTIONS.

19:17:30 WAY WANTED TO DO WAS PREPARE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND HOW




19:17:38 ARC, THEY DID HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE TO FOLLOW GUIDELINES,

19:17:43 AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT.

19:17:46 THEY ASSURED THAT THE CHANGES THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE

19:17:48 DID NOT DISTRACT FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL OR THE AESTHETIC

19:17:52 QUALITY OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:17:59 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ADHERES TO THE DESIGN

19:18:02 GUIDELINES FOR THE AREA.

19:18:08 AS I LEARNED RECENTLY ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE

19:18:11 REFERRING TO NOW, REZ 20-50, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NO

19:18:16 CONSIDERATION OR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THIS BEING A HISTORIC

19:18:20 AREA.

19:18:20 THAT GAVE ME GREAT CONCERN.

19:18:23 IT'S ONLY A MENTION THAT MS. SAMANIEGO HAS REMARKED ABOUT

19:18:28 THE LANDMARK AT 2708 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.

19:18:33 MY DEEP CONCERN PRIOR TO HER PRESENTATION WAS THAT THE

19:18:39 ZONING REQUEST OF APPROVALS THAT ARE NOT REVIEWED BY ARC,

19:18:45 OUR COMMUNITY IS VULNERABLE TO LOSE ITS STATUS AS A LOCAL

19:18:49 HISTORIC DISTRICT.

19:18:52 WHILE I WELCOME RESIDENTS AND CONSTRUCTION, I FEEL ALL

19:18:56 PLANS MUST BE SYMPATHETIC, PROTECTING AND MAINTAINING THE

19:19:01 CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.

19:19:05 MY HOPE AND DESIRE IS THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL RESUME ITS

19:19:08 RESPONSIBILITIES TO SUPPORT THE GUIDELINES AND

19:19:11 REGULATIONS WHEN APPROVING REZONING AND N OUR

19:19:15 NEIGHBORHOOD.




19:19:16 RESIDENTS MOVE HERE LARGELY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S

19:19:20 A DISTINCTION THAT WE ARE LIVING IN A HISTORIC COMMUNITY.

19:19:22 WE ONLY ASK THAT THE RESIDENTS GIVE NOTIFICATION IN A

19:19:25 TIMELY MANNER AND AFFORD US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS

19:19:29 CONCERNS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGAN.

19:19:32 I ONLY ASK TWO THINGS OF YOU TODAY.

19:19:34 ONE IS THAT ALL HISTORIC CONSERVATION, CHAPTER 27 CODE,

19:19:40 BE APPLIED, AND NUMBER TWO, THAT GOING FORWARD, IF EVERY

19:19:44 DECISION IN THIS MATTER IS UNDERPINNED WITH OPENNESS OF

19:19:50 MIND AND RESPECT FOR CULTURAL INTEGRITY.

19:19:55 IN MY MOTHER'S OWN WORDS, JUST OLD-FASHIONED GUMPTION.

19:20:01 THANK YOU, AND HAVE A NICE EVENING.

19:20:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:20:04 WE APPRECIATE IT.

19:20:05 NEXT SPEAKER.

19:20:06 I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE.

19:20:07 >>JIM CREW: CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

19:20:10 THE FINAL SPEAKER JOSHUA HAWK IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN

19:20:17 OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION.

19:20:18 I CONTACTED HIM ON THE PHONE.

19:20:19 HE HAS NOT SIGNED IN AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO JOIN THE

19:20:22 MEETING.

19:20:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS?

19:20:26 >>JIM CREW: YES.

19:20:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.




19:20:28 ALL RIGHT.

19:20:30 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

19:20:34 N ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

19:20:39 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE?

19:20:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK MR. MIRANDA IS

19:20:52 TRYING TO SPEAK BUT HE'S MUTED.

19:20:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY GOOD FRIEND, ORLANDO.

19:20:57 I AM SITTING HERE AND LISTENING, AND THE ARC CAME UP

19:21:01 THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE

19:21:04 LEGAL DEPARTMENT GIVE US A SYNOPSIS OF THE RULES AND

19:21:08 REGULATIONS REGARDING LAND ZONINGS AND ARC APPROVAL AND

19:21:12 HOW DOES THAT WORK AND HOW DO THEY MINGLE IT TOGETHER?

19:21:15 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

19:21:19 WITH RESPECT TO THE ARC'S AUTHORITY, IF COUNCIL APPROVES

19:21:24 THIS REZONING APPLICATION OPPORTUNITY, THEN IT GOES FOR

19:21:28 SECOND READING, THE PROPERTY OWNER TRIES TO MOVE FORWARD

19:21:32 WITH CONSTRUCTION, THAT APPLICATION WILL STILL REQUIRE

19:21:35 APPROVAL BY THE ARC WITH CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

19:21:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS THEY WILL LOOK AT THE

19:21:40 DESIGN OF THE BUILDING TO SEE IF IT MEETS THE GUIDELINES?

19:21:44 >>CATE WELLS: THAT IS WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW.

19:21:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG WITH SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING OF

19:21:50 THE LIKE?

19:21:51 >>CATE WELLS: THE SETBACKS ARE BY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT

19:21:56 WITH THE DESIGN.




19:21:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:21:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE

19:22:00 QUESTIONS?

19:22:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

19:22:05 MS. WELLS, I HEARD MENTION OF ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE

19:22:09 SPEAKING HAD A COMMENT ABOUT LOT SPLIT.

19:22:12 THIS IS NOT A LOT SPLIT. THIS IS JUST A REZONING OF THE

19:22:15 PROPERTY.

19:22:16 IS THAT CORRECT?

19:22:16 >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS THE CREATION OF A SEPARATE LOT, A

19:22:23 LARGER LOT, AND THEN THEY ARE SEEKING A PD REZONING FOR

19:22:27 APPROVAL, AND WHY THE REZONING WAS REQUIRED, BECAUSE IT

19:22:31 IS RS-50 ZONE.

19:22:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

19:22:38 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, THIS BASICALLY IS JUST A LOT

19:22:41 SPLIT.

19:22:42 THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH A PD IS BECAUSE

19:22:47 THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MINIMUM WIDTH OF PUBLICLY

19:22:50 MAINTAINING -- BECAUSE AGAIN THEY ARE AT THE DEAD-END OF

19:22:54 THE STREET.

19:22:55 SO THE ONLY ACTION OF THE PD IS TO CREATE A SEPARATE LOT.

19:23:00 AGAIN THE BUILDING ITSELF, AND ANY STRUCTURES, WILL BE

19:23:04 REVIEWED BY ARC.

19:23:07 JUST PROFESSIONALLY, I DID NOT SAY THAT THIS IS EXEMPT

19:23:12 FROM ARC OR THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT.




19:23:14 I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, NOR DOES CITY

19:23:16 COUNCIL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

19:23:19 SPEAKING AS A NON-ATTORNEY.

19:23:21 BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE RECORD WITH THAT.

19:23:24 BASICALLY, WE ARE JUST CREATING THE LOT.

19:23:26 THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS THROUGH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO

19:23:29 SHOW SOME OF THE RUDIMENTARY LAYOUT.

19:23:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. SAMANIEGO.

19:23:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:23:36 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

19:23:38 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?

19:23:42 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:23:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DIFFICULTIES

19:23:49 TONIGHT.

19:23:49 BUT ANYWAY, I NEED AN OPINION FROM MS. WELLS.

19:23:55 I CAME IN LATE ON THIS.

19:23:57 I DID NOT HEAR THE PETITIONER MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

19:24:01 I ONLY HEARD ONE OF THE PHONE CALLERS, THE LAST PHONE

19:24:04 CALL WE HEARD.

19:24:05 SO I'M HESITANT ABOUT VOTING.

19:24:09 BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE ALWAYS TOLD WHAT THE

19:24:13 PARAMETERS ARE.

19:24:16 IN THIS CASE, I SORT OF HAVE A TECHNICAL RECUSAL.

19:24:20 >>CATE WELLS: AND MR. SHELBY SHOULD BE THE ONE ANSWERING

19:24:27 THAT QUESTION FOR YOU AS CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.




19:24:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M FINE WITH MR. SHELBY ANSWERING

19:24:32 THAT.

19:24:33 I DIDN'T SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE WAS

19:24:35 HERE OR NOT.

19:24:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM.

19:24:39 DO YOU WISH TO HAVE A QUESTION OR DO YOU WISH TO HAVE THE

19:24:42 PETITIONER DISCUSS THINGS?

19:24:46 I GUESS IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE ENTIRE HEARING, THIS

19:24:49 BEING QUASI-JUDICIAL, AND ON THAT BASIS YOU HAVEN'T HAD

19:24:53 AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE EVIDENCE, I WOULD

19:24:57 SUSPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE A BASIS FOR YOU TO ABSTAIN

19:25:01 DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL IF

19:25:05 YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE ENTIRE EVIDENCE.

19:25:10 SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ALTHOUGH THAT REALLY HAS NOT

19:25:14 COME UP, FRANKLY, UNTIL THIS POINT, TO MY RECOLLECTION.

19:25:18 SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DO YOU FEEL PREPARED TO BE ABLE

19:25:21 TO VOTE, OR DO YOU THINK IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST TO

19:25:25 ABSTAIN AND THE FACT THAT NOT HAVING HEARD THE ENTIRE

19:25:29 EVIDENCE YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND

19:25:31 BASE YOUR DECISION ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN

19:25:34 THE RECORD?

19:25:37 THE OTHER OPTION --

19:25:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I FEEL LIKE I CAN BE FAIR AND

19:25:42 IMPARTIAL BUT I CAN'T BE INFORMED, BECAUSE I MISSED THREE

19:25:46 QUARTERS, WAY GUESS WOULD BE THREE QUARTERS OF HIS




19:25:49 PRESENTATION.

19:25:50 SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, I WOULD REQUEST THE CHAIR TO ALLOW

19:25:53 ME TO ABSTAIN ON THAT BASIS.

19:25:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, AND I

19:25:59 UNDERSTAND.

19:26:00 THIS YOU DID HAVE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

19:26:05 IT WAS LEGITIMATE.

19:26:08 AND YOU WANT ALL THE EVIDENCE BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.

19:26:11 I UNDERSTAND.

19:26:13 SO IF YOU WISH TO RECUSE YOURSELF AND ABSTAIN, I

19:26:16 UNDERSTAND ON THAT BASIS.

19:26:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS THE CASE, MR. DINGFELDER,

19:26:22 WHAT I WILL DO, WHEN WE ARE PREPARING YOUR FORM, IS TO

19:26:26 LIST THE FACT THAT THIS IS A VIRTUAL MEETING, THIS IS

19:26:30 UNDER THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, YOU DID HAVE TECHNICAL

19:26:33 ISSUES, AND YOU WERE UNABLE TO HEAR THE ENTIRE RECORD.

19:26:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:26:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:26:39 IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT, QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL

19:26:42 MEMBERS?

19:26:44 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?

19:26:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

19:26:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM

19:26:50 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

19:26:51 IS THERE A SECOND?




19:26:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.

19:26:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

19:26:56 UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW

19:26:58 CLOSED.

19:26:59 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 10?

19:27:03 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:27:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST

19:27:11 READING, CAN AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

19:27:14 GENERAL VICINITY OF 2820 NORTH CENTRAL COURT IN THE CITY

19:27:17 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

19:27:20 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50

19:27:23 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT

19:27:25 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

19:27:27 DATE, AND PROVED BY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE,

19:27:33 PETITIONER HAS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN WITH PLAN AND CITY

19:27:40 DECODE, CODE, AND SUCH AS THE SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT

19:27:49 SHOWS THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES, ENCOURAGES -- WITH THE

19:27:54 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:27:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

19:28:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE MRS. SAMANIEGO WISHES TO BE

19:28:02 RECOGNIZED.

19:28:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.

19:28:06 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'M SORRY.

19:28:07 I DON'T BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAD ANY REBUTTAL PERIOD.

19:28:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I HAVE A MOTION?




19:28:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MS. SAMANIEGO.

19:28:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:28:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE

19:28:23 HEARING?

19:28:24 MOTION BY MR. MIRANDA.

19:28:26 SECOND BY CITRO. ANY OBJECTION?

19:28:28 HEARING NONE, WOULD THE APPLICANT, STILL ON THE LINE, DO

19:28:32 YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE, ANY REBUTTAL TO ANYTHING THAT WAS

19:28:37 SAID, ANYTHING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING?

19:28:38 BE OTHER THAN THE PUBLIC COMMENT?

19:28:42 GO AHEAD.

19:28:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU HEAR ME?

19:28:44 A COUPLE QUICK THINGS.

19:28:46 HONESTLY, I WAS UNDERSTOOD THE IMPRESSION I HAD TO FOLLOW

19:28:48 THE ARC ANYWAY.

19:28:50 AND YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE THE PLANS IN FRONT OF YOU.

19:28:53 YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE ELEVATIONS ARE ON THE HOUSE ARE,

19:28:57 FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE AS I CAN ON

19:29:01 THAT LOT.

19:29:04 A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THE WATER AND THE KNOBS CONCERN

19:29:06 ABOUT SINKHOLE, I PLAN TO USE CITY WATER, NOT TO DIG

19:29:12 ANYMORE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

19:29:13 I'M A BUILDER MYSELF SO I AM GOING TO HAVE THE SOIL

19:29:15 TESTED ON THE LOT.

19:29:17 ANYWAY THAT WAS MY MAIN THING I WANTED TO SAY WAS THAT I




19:29:20 PLAN ON FOLLOWING ALL THE ARC RULES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD

19:29:22 SO THAT THE FIVE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT

19:29:25 SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

19:29:28 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

19:29:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:29:31 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

19:29:33 ANYTHING ELSE?

19:29:36 MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

19:29:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.

19:29:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:29:41 DO WE HAVE A SOAKED?

19:29:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES IS THE SECOND.

19:29:46 IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, HEARING NONE THE HEARING IS

19:29:49 AGAIN CLOSED.

19:29:52 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES MADE THE MOTION AND READ THE

19:29:55 ORDINANCE.

19:29:55 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

19:29:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.

19:30:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND, COUNCILMAN CITRO.

19:30:04 IF WE COULD TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

19:30:06 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

19:30:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

19:30:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABSTAIN.

19:30:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

19:30:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.




19:30:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

19:30:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

19:30:26 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT.

19:30:30 DINGFELDER ABSTAINING.

19:30:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER

19:30:34 10th AT 5:01 P.M.

19:30:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MADAM CLERK, REGARDING THAT SECOND

19:30:39 READING, SEPTEMBER 10th, WE ARE OVER 20 ITEMS, I

19:30:43 THINK 21 ITEMS ALREADY FOR THAT NIGHT.

19:30:45 IS THERE A FUTURE DATE THAT WE CAN HAVE SECOND READING AT

19:30:51 THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE

19:30:52 SO MANY ALREADY ON SEPTEMBER 10th?

19:30:56 >>THE CLERK: YES, ONE MOMENT.

19:30:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

19:30:58 AND THIS WILL APPLY TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE TAKE UP

19:31:01 TONIGHT MOVING FORWARD.

19:31:02 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 21st AT 5:01 P.M. AS

19:31:11 WELL.

19:31:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

19:31:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, SEPTEMBER 21st IS A

19:31:20 MONDAY NIGHT.

19:31:21 IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM CLERK?

19:31:22 >>THE CLERK: YES.

19:31:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON SEPTEMBER 21st, YOU HAVE 12

19:31:30 REVIEW HEARINGS OF THE DECISION OF THE ZONING




19:31:33 ADMINISTRATOR.

19:31:36 12 OF THEM PRESENTLY SET.

19:31:39 THAT'S OVER 10 BUT WE DID THAT TO CATCH UP.

19:31:42 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADD SECOND READINGS TO

19:31:45 THAT.

19:31:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE ONTO

19:31:49 BEYOND THE 21ST.

19:31:52 >>THE CLERK: SO WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 24th.

19:31:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DOES SEPTEMBER 24th LOOK

19:31:59 LIKE?

19:32:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIX REZONINGS AND ONE SU-2.

19:32:03 THAT'S SEVEN QUASI-JUDICIAL.

19:32:05 BUT PRIOR TO THAT YOU HAVE 16 PLAN AMENDMENTS TO BE

19:32:11 HANDLED FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS.

19:32:14 SO THOSE GENERALLY GO QUICKER, CERTAINLY.

19:32:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S SET IT FOR THE SEPTEMBER

19:32:22 24th DATE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PUSH THINGS WAY TOO FAR

19:32:25 OUT.

19:32:25 SEPTEMBER 24th.

19:32:26 IS THAT CORRECT?

19:32:28 >> YES.

19:32:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THAT FOR THIS ITEM AND THE

19:32:32 REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS.

19:32:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 6 P.M.?

19:32:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.




19:32:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THE CLERK HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IT?

19:32:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.

19:32:45 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT,

19:32:49 DINGFELDER ABSTAINING, SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL

19:32:52 BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 24th AT 6:00 P.M.

19:32:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:32:57 I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS

19:33:00 HAVING SEVERE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

19:33:03 HE MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING.

19:33:06 HE'S TRYING HIS BEST TO GET ON.

19:33:08 BUT NOTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING.

19:33:10 I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

19:33:13 HAVING SAID THAT, I BELIEVE MR. GARDNER WITH ITEM NUMBER

19:33:17 8 SHOULD BE READY TO GO.

19:33:20 SO WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 8.

19:33:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MANISCALCO, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I?

19:33:35 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME?

19:33:37 LET ME CALL YOU BACK.

19:33:38 THANK YOU.

19:33:38 THANK YOU.

19:33:39 OKAY.

19:33:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A MIRACLE.

19:33:44 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU GUYS SEE ME?

19:33:46 I'M SORRY.

19:33:47 MY APOLOGIES.




19:33:49 I'M TRYING TO GET ON.

19:33:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FROM CHAIR.

19:33:58 WE HAD MR. HEMMING FOR A WHILE.

19:34:02 IT WAS ITEM NUMBER 3.

19:34:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, WOULD YOU LIKE A FULL COUNCIL

19:34:07 FOR THAT, OR SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SIX COUNCIL

19:34:10 MEMBERS FOR ITEM NUMBER 3?

19:34:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE'S BEEN WAITING A WHILE.

19:34:18 SO I WAS JUST MAKING A POINT.

19:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MOVING

19:34:22 FORWARD WITH ITEM NUMBER 3 WITH VIERA STILL PENDING HERE?

19:34:25 WE'LL HAVE SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS.

19:34:27 THAT COULD BE A SPLIT VOTE.

19:34:28 THAT COULD GO EITHER WAY.

19:34:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN SEE COUNCILMAN VIERA ON LINE NOW.

19:34:40 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET

19:34:44 ON FOR 15 MINUTES.

19:34:50 I'M VERY HAPPY BUT FRUSTRATED.

19:34:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 8 --

19:34:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BRINGS UP THE SAME ISSUE.

19:35:00 I BELIEVE WE HAD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DID NOT HEAR THE

19:35:02 PRESENTATION.

19:35:03 IS THAT CORRECT?

19:35:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

19:35:05 SO WE CAN START IT OVER.




19:35:06 IT SHOULDN'T TAKE VERY LONG.

19:35:08 JUST SO THEY CAN GET UP TO SPEED.

19:35:09 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND VIERA.

19:35:12 SO ITEM NUMBER 3.

19:35:13 IF WE COULD JUST GO OVER THE PRESENTATION WITH PLANNING

19:35:18 AND THE CITY.

19:35:18 SO DINGFELDER AND VIERA CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION ON

19:35:21 IT.

19:35:21 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: JENNIFER, GO FIRST.

19:35:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

19:35:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

19:35:36 ITEM NUMBER 3, 20-55, WE ARE IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA

19:35:42 PLANNING DISTRICT.

19:35:43 [RUSTLING PAPERS]

19:35:44 TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.

19:35:47 TWO BLOCKS SOUTH ON WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

19:35:58 IT'S WITHIN A LOCAL D EVACUATION ZONE.

19:36:00 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:36:02 IT IS LOCATED NORTH ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD AT NORTH E

19:36:05 STREET.

19:36:07 HABANA AVENUE.

19:36:08 THE SURROUNDING AREA IS A MIXTURE OF SINGLE-FAMILY

19:36:12 DETACHED WITH LIMITED OTHER HOUSING STOCK.

19:36:21 THAT ALLOWS MEDIAN DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT

19:36:25 PATTERN, RESIDENTIAL 10 TO THE WEST OF NORTH HABANA




19:36:31 AVENUE WHICH IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, AND THEN THERE'S

19:36:34 URBAN MIXED USE FROM WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO THE END OF

19:36:39 THE STREET.

19:36:41 AS I SAID BEFORE, URBAN VILLAGE IDENTIFIES BOTH AREAS AND

19:36:57 THE ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

19:37:02 AND UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE TAMPA URBAN

19:37:12 VILLAGE.

19:37:13 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

19:37:14 THANK YOU.

19:37:18 [ INAUDIBLE ]

19:37:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUESTION.

19:37:21 JENNIFER, LOOKING AT PAGE 4 AT THE BOTTOM UNDER YOUR

19:37:24 STAFF ANALYSIS, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

19:37:32 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.

19:37:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPECIFICALLY, [RUSTLING PAPERS]

19:37:42 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] INCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE HAS AN

19:37:46 EXISTING DENSITY OF 8.36 UNITS PER ACRE, WELL BELOW THE

19:37:51 DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE -R-20, AND THEN YOU GO ON

19:37:57 TO SAY THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF

19:38:00 THE THREE UNITS AT AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 17.64 UNITS, NOT

19:38:07 AS GOOD AT MATH AS MR. MIRANDA BUT IT LOOKS LIKE 8.36 IS

19:38:12 THE CURRENT DENSITY, AND THIS PROPOSED DENSITY WOULD BE

19:38:15 ABOUT TWICE THE DENSITY OF THE EXISTING ZONING.

19:38:22 AND THEN -- BUT THEN YOU CONCLUDE BY SAYING THAT THE

19:38:26 PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT AND WILL NOT ALTER THE




19:38:31 CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS PORTION.

19:38:36 AND I AM HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE SYNTHESIZING ALL OF THAT

19:38:43 JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE CURRENT ZONING, AND THE FOLKS WHO

19:38:46 LIVE THERE ARE LIVING THERE IN AN 8-UNIT PER ACRE

19:38:50 DENSITY, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS IS TWICE THAT, A LITTLE

19:38:54 MORE THAN TWICE, 17.64 UNITS, AND YET YOUR CONCLUSION IS

19:39:00 THAT THE PROPOSED DOUBLE DENSITY ZONING IS CONSISTENT AND

19:39:05 WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

19:39:08 IF THAT WOULDN'T ALTER THE CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT

19:39:10 PATTERN, THEN WHAT WOULD?

19:39:13 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SURE.

19:39:16 FOR THE RECORD, WE DO THE ANALYSIS WHEN WE FIND IT

19:39:22 APPROPRIATE ON THE REZONING.

19:39:25 8.36 DENSITY IS THE DENSITY OF THE STREET OF THE PARCELS

19:39:31 FACING WEST NORTH B STREET AND EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT

19:39:35 SITE.

19:39:36 THEN IF IT IS DEVELOPED TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL WITH THE

19:39:41 CHANGE.

19:39:43 SO I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY IS THE 8.36 IS BELOW

19:39:47 THE 20 MAXIMUM DENSITY IN THE AREA.

19:39:51 SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE HOUSING, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE

19:39:59 PLAN PERSPECTIVE IS UNDERUTILIZED --

19:40:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT I AM TRYING TO FOCUS ON IS THE

19:40:08 PRECISE STATEMENT, WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THE

19:40:11 PROPOSED DENSITY IS TWICE AS DENSE AS WHAT IS THERE ON




19:40:15 THAT BLOCK, BUT YOUR CONCLUSION SAYS WILL NOT ALTER THE

19:40:20 CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS PORTION OF THE

19:40:24 NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:40:26 BUT I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, IS TO FIGURE

19:40:32 OUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S DOUBLE THE DENSITY, I DON'T KNOW

19:40:36 HOW WE CAN COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT WILL NOT ALTER

19:40:40 THE CHARACTER.

19:40:41 WHAT IS THE CHARACTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IF

19:40:44 NOT --

19:40:51 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.

19:40:52 I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

19:40:57 I THINK IT IS NOT ALTERING THE -- [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] AND

19:41:05 MAKE SURE POTENTIAL USES IN THE AREA AND OTHER

19:41:09 RESIDENTIAL 20, IT IS ANTICIPATED TO HAVE A PROPOSED

19:41:15 ZONING IS FURTHERING THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED

19:41:18 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20.

19:41:20 AND AT THE PLANNING STAFF THAT AN INCREASE, A CHANGE OF

19:41:28 THE ZONING THAT IS IN LINE WITH THE DENSITY OF FUTURE

19:41:32 LAND USE MAP WOULD NOT ALTER THAT.

19:41:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

19:41:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:41:40 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

19:41:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

19:41:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, THAT MR.

19:41:48 DINGFELDER POINTED OUT.




19:41:49 SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS FUTURE LAND USE, THE DENSITY,

19:41:53 THE CHARACTER WOULD CHANGE?

19:42:03 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR A HIGHER

19:42:05 POTENTIAL.

19:42:07 WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY WHEN WE MAKE THAT DENSITY

19:42:11 ANALYSIS IS THAT THE STREET IS NOT BEING DEVELOPED TO

19:42:15 WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ENVISIONING.

19:42:18 SO IT'S ONLY BEING DEVELOPED TO 8.37 UNITS PER ACRE, AND

19:42:26 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ENVISIONING IT BE DEVELOPED AT

19:42:31 18 UNITS TO THE ACRE OR EVEN 20 UNITS TO THE ACRE PER THE

19:42:35 UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT'S ALLOWED BY

19:42:39 DENSITY.

19:42:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

19:42:45 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

19:42:47 WE'LL GO ON TO MARY, NEXT UP.

19:42:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

19:42:51 THANK YOU.

19:42:53 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO GO REZONE THE

19:42:58 PROPERTY FROM THE CURRENT RM 6:00 16 TO RM-18 FOR THE

19:43:01 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2709 NORTH B STREET AS JENNIFER

19:43:06 INDICATED.

19:43:07 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A TWO-UNIT

19:43:12 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1939.

19:43:16 THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED ON

19:43:20 ALL SIDES, WITH THAN THE RM-16 ZONING DISTRICT.




19:43:24 THE TAMPA OVERLAY, ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS TO OCCUR ON

19:43:27 THE PROPERTY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE WEST

19:43:29 TAMPA OVERLAY STANDARDS SECTION 27-241.

19:43:35 HERE IS A MAP OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND YOU CAN SEE THE

19:43:38 ZONING IS ON HABANA, WHEREAS THE WEST SIDE IS RS-50 WHICH

19:43:45 IS SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT TYPICALLY ONE HOUSE FOR

19:43:48 PROPERTY.

19:43:49 AND THEN ON THIS SIDE, TORE EAST SIDE, THE ZONING

19:43:54 DISTRICT IS OVERWHELMINGLY RM-16, THE EXISTING ZONING OF

19:44:00 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH THE RM 20

19:44:05 LAND CATEGORY.

19:44:06 YOU CAN SEE TWO LOTS FURTHER TO THE EAST, SOME OF THESE

19:44:11 PROPERTIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN REZONED TO INCREASE THE

19:44:14 INTENSITY SLIGHTLY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE RM-18

19:44:18 ZONING DISTRICT, TAMPANIA, YOU CAN SEE SOME TOWNHOMES.

19:44:26 HERE IS RM 20 HERE.

19:44:28 HERE IS RM 18 HERE.

19:44:30 RM 18.

19:44:31 THERE'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ON NORTH A STREET.

19:44:34 SO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN TRANSITIONING OVER FROM

19:44:37 RM-16 TO SLIGHTLY HIGHER INTENSITY, AGAIN WITHIN THE

19:44:40 PARAMETERS OF THE RM 20 LAND USE CATEGORIES.

19:44:45 SAYING THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF

19:44:48 DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE.

19:44:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.




19:44:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:44:58 MARY, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT?

19:45:01 LEAVE THAT MAP UP FOR A SECOND?

19:45:03 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CAN YOU SHARE MY -- OKAY.

19:45:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO A LITTLE SMALL ON MY SCREEN, BUT

19:45:16 IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WITH YOUR ARROW -- HOLD THAT, HOLD

19:45:22 THAT.

19:45:23 OKAY.

19:45:24 WITH YOUR ARROW, ANYWAY, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT BETWEEN

19:45:29 ARRAWANA AND HABANA, OKAY, YOU WANT TO SHOW EVERYBODY

19:45:34 WITH THE ARROW WHERE THAT IS IN CASE PEOPLE CAN'T FIND

19:45:37 IT?

19:45:37 BETWEEN ARRAWANA AND HABANA, IN THAT CORRIDOR,

19:45:44 THE ONLY THING I AM SEEING NOTED THERE, AND I NOTE IT'S

19:45:48 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S TYPICAL IS THAT RM-16, THE BLOCK

19:45:52 AWAY, ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY.

19:45:54 BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGES,

19:45:59 IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE JUMPING OVER TO CAMPAIGN YEAH, AT

19:46:06 LEAST TWO BLOCKS AWAY, AND THEN WE PICK UP WITH THE RM-16

19:46:09 AND THE RM-18, AND THEN EVEN FURTHER OUTSIDE OF THAT

19:46:12 CIRCLE, WE SEE THE PDS AND THE BIG RM-18 AND THE PDS,

19:46:17 ET CETERA.

19:46:18 BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR AND FOR THE RECORD, AND I GUESS I

19:46:24 WILL EVEN GO FURTHER OVER, GOMEZ, EXCELDA, HABANA AND

19:46:30 ARRAWANA, I AM NOT SEEING THOSE OTHER DESIGNATIONS TO THE




19:46:33 RM-16 OR RM-18 OR THE PD.

19:46:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: FORGIVE ME.

19:46:40 I BELIEVE YOU ARE MISREADING THE MAP.

19:46:44 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RS-50.

19:46:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS I MISSPOKE ON THAT.

19:46:53 WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS I DON'T SEE THE INTRUSION OF

19:46:55 THE RM-18 THAT WE SEE TWO BLOCKS OVER THERE ON TAMPANIA.

19:47:00 YEAH, I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

19:47:08 IF WE GO OVER TO THE RM-18 AND THEN THE PDS, ARE THERE

19:47:11 OTHER RM-18s ON EXCELDA, HABANA AND RM-18?

19:47:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO.

19:47:23 NOBODY HAS TRANSITIONED OVER TO RM-18.

19:47:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT JUST THAT BLOCK.

19:47:27 I'M LOOKING -- I'M LOOKING ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN

19:47:30 EXCELDA, HABANA AND ARRAWANA.

19:47:34 I'M LOOKING AT PROBABLY A TOTAL OF AT LEAST NINE BLOCKS

19:47:39 THAT SEEM TO HAVE MAINTAINED THE RM-16 INTEGRITY.

19:47:44 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: OKAY.

19:47:50 SO TO CLARIFY, FOR THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS

19:47:53 AS WELL SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING, HABANA IS THE

19:47:57 BORDERLINE. EVERYTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF HABANA IS IN

19:48:00 THE RS 50 ZONING DISTRICT.

19:48:03 THEN ON THIS SIDE OF HABANA, THIS IS ALL RM-16, EXCEPT

19:48:08 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL YELLOW PIECE SQUARES, THE INDIVIDUAL

19:48:14 DESIGNATIONS WITHIN THAT.




19:48:17 SO BETWEEN ARRAWANA AND HABANA, YES, PAST CARMEN AND DOWN

19:48:21 TO NORTH A STREET, THAT IS CURRENTLY ALL ZONED RM 60.

19:48:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, AT LEAST

19:48:33 FIVE BLOCKS OF RM-16 HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED YET.

19:48:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.

19:48:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

19:48:42 WELL, SOMETIMES THESE MAPS ARE HARD TO READ AND I

19:48:44 APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.

19:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:48:48 ALL RIGHT.

19:48:49 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

19:48:54 I HAVE HEARD THAT THERE MAY BE SOMEBODY FOR PUBLIC

19:48:57 COMMENT ON THIS THAT IS AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER

19:48:59 THAT WE DID NOT HEAR FROM AND THAT WAS NOT -- AT THE

19:49:03 CONVENTION CENTER, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

19:49:06 ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 3?

19:49:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID THE PETITIONER PRESENT HIS CASE?

19:49:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

19:49:17 DO YOU WANT THE PETITIONER TO PRESENT HIS CASE AGAIN?

19:49:21 ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S HAVE THE PETITIONER

19:49:25 PRESENT AGAIN FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE NOT ABLE

19:49:28 TO LOG IN.

19:49:31 PETITIONER?

19:49:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS COUNCILMAN VIERA ON?

19:49:36 I AM JUST CURIOUS.




19:49:37 THERE HE IS.

19:49:38 THANK YOU.

19:49:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS MR. HEMMINGS ON THE LINE?

19:49:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE'S MUTED.

19:49:49 IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOUR PHONE, SIR.

19:49:51 AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.

19:49:58 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

19:50:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

19:50:04 NOW WE CAN.

19:50:04 GO AHEAD.

19:50:04 >> THANK YOU.

19:50:09 GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

19:50:12 I HAVE BEEN IN THIS HOUSE FOR 20-PLUS YEARS.

19:50:16 AND THERE'S BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT ON OUR

19:50:22 STREET.

19:50:24 THERE ARE TOWNHOMES THAT WERE RECENTLY BUILT ACROSS THE

19:50:28 STREET, THREE UNITS, AND THERE ARE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE

19:50:34 BEING CONSTRUCTED AT THE CORNER NOW ON NORTH B AND

19:50:41 ARRAWANA.

19:50:42 SO MY HOPE IS THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE ME TO DO THE

19:50:51 SAME, TO BUILD THREE MEDITERRANEAN STYLE TOWNHOMES,

19:50:59 BEAUTIFUL, MUCH NICER THAN THE HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW.

19:51:05 THE HOUSE IS AN OLDER HOUSE, AND NEEDED REPAIR, AND WE

19:51:12 WOULD HAVE SOMETHING NEW.

19:51:18 AND WE HOPE EVERYBODY APPROVES THIS ZONING FROM RS 16 TO




19:51:25 RM-18.

19:51:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:51:33 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

19:51:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.

19:51:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER.

19:51:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR MY QUESTION

19:51:42 EARLIER AS RELATED TO THE RM-16?

19:51:53 WHAT IS THE COMPELLING REASON?

19:51:55 YOU HAVE A DENSITY RIGHT NOW OF RM-16 THAT I BELIEVE

19:51:59 ALLOWS -- RM MEANS MULTIFAMILY.

19:52:03 SO IT ALLOWS FOR TOWNHOMES.

19:52:05 I AM NOT AN ENGINEER AND I CAN'T TESTIFY, BUT I AM GOING

19:52:08 TO GUESS THAT CURRENTLY IT ALLOWS FOR -- WHAT DOES IT

19:52:13 ALLOW FOR, TWO UNITS RIGHT NOW?

19:52:15 >> WE HAVE A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL, YOU KNOW, WIDE LOT.

19:52:23 OUR LOT IS 82 OR 81 BY 100, BASICALLY.

19:52:30 SO WE ARE NOT ASKING TO GO TO RM 20, WHICH IS WHAT THE

19:52:35 FUTURE USE IS OF THE LOT.

19:52:40 JUST 18 BECAUSE OUR DENSITY WOULD BE 17 BASICALLY.

19:52:42 SLIGHTLY OVER BUT A THIRD UNIT WOULD BE SLIGHTLY MORE

19:52:47 THAN 16.

19:52:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION.

19:52:53 IT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD A TOWN HOME.

19:52:56 IT'S THAT YOU CAN'T -- YOU CAN BUILD TWO BUT YOU CAN'T

19:52:59 BUILD THREE?




19:53:00 >> CORRECT.

19:53:01 AND OBVIOUSLY, EFFICIENTLY, FOR US, IT'S MUCH MORE

19:53:07 EFFICIENT FOR US TO BUILD THREE THAN TWO.

19:53:16 BECAUSE THE MONEY WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE SAME AS FAR AS

19:53:19 SQUARE FOOTAGE AND STUFF.

19:53:22 SO GETTING A THIRD UNIT WOULD CERTAINLY ENHANCE THE

19:53:25 VALUE.

19:53:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:53:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:53:29 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

19:53:31 I HEAR NONE.

19:53:33 NOW, WE HAVE SOMEONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE TAMPA

19:53:36 CONVENTION CENTER.

19:53:38 THAT PERSON DOES NEED TO BE SWORN IN BEFORE THEY SPEAK.

19:53:41 GO AHEAD, CONVENTION CENTER.

19:53:43 >> THIS IS PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

19:53:48 WE HAVE ONE PERSON HEAR ON THIS ITEM AND HE HAS BEEN

19:53:53 SWORN IN.

19:53:54 IT'S OUR FIRST SPEAKER.

19:53:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

19:53:58 I WILL BEGIN THE TIMER.

19:53:59 STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

19:54:00 >> MY NAME IS DEL CORTAMA, A RESIDENT ON NORTH A.

19:54:08 I HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND I

19:54:10 HAVE SEEN QUITE A CHANGE.




19:54:17 WHAT I WOULD LIKE -- HERE ARE MY CONCERNS.

19:54:23 AND WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

19:54:26 WE HAVE BEEN ENJOYING IMPROVEMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND

19:54:32 IT'S WONDERFUL.

19:54:34 HOWEVER, MY CONCERN IS THE DENSITY, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE

19:54:44 WHICH WE HAD PROBLEMS ALREADY WITH WATER.

19:54:48 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY IS A THOROUGHFARE FOR TRAFFIC

19:54:55 NOT WANTING TO USE COULD END BUT USING NORTH A, NORTH B,

19:55:01 ET CETERA, DOWN THE LINE, IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION.

19:55:05 AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THE NUMBER OF CARS ON OUR STREET.

19:55:18 THREE UNITS, TOWNHOUSES ACROSS THE STREET, AND THAT'S

19:55:24 FOUR ADDITIONAL UNITS, IF YOU FOLLOW MY LOGIC, WHERE

19:55:30 THESE PROPERTIES WERE SINGLE-FAMILY.

19:55:33 PROPERTIES.

19:55:34 SO THE UNITS ACROSS THE STREET THAT ARE THREE HAVE

19:55:40 GARAGES IN THE BACK THAT GO OUT ONTO THE ALLEY.

19:55:50 MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE -- AND PLEASE PARDON MY

19:55:54 UNFAMILIARITY.

19:55:55 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVERY BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK BUT I AM

19:56:00 REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:56:03 IF HE WOULD CONSIDER TWO UNITS WITH PARKING OFF THE

19:56:06 STREET.

19:56:07 EVEN THOUGH ACROSS THE STREET FROM OFF-STREET PARKING,

19:56:12 THEY STILL PARK ON THE STREET.

19:56:14 SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS INUNDATED WITH THESE KIND OF




19:56:18 ISSUES.

19:56:19 AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER OUR ISSUES.

19:56:28 THAT'S IT.

19:56:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:56:29 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

19:56:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

19:56:33 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?

19:56:35 I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.

19:56:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:56:41 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AT

19:56:43 THIS TIME?

19:56:46 I HEAR NONE.

19:56:47 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

19:56:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

19:56:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN

19:56:53 GUDES.

19:57:00 OH, DO WE HAVE REBUTTAL FROM THE APPLICANT?

19:57:03 IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO STATE, MR. HEMMING?

19:57:07 >> CHRIS HEMMINGS: YES, SIR.

19:57:13 JUST UNDERSTANDING, THREE UNITS PROPOSED, ALL TWO-CAR

19:57:17 GARAGES, AND DRIVEWAY PARKING, THE PROPOSAL WAS UP TO 12

19:57:26 PARKING SPACES FOR THE THREE UNITS.

19:57:31 SO ANTICIPATE -- DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS

19:57:38 PARKING ON THE STREET.

19:57:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.




19:57:42 ANY QUESTIONS?

19:57:43 ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

19:57:48 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

19:57:50 APPLICANT, YOU SAID EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY?

19:57:53 >> YES, SIR.

19:57:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS

19:57:56 PUBLIC HEARING?

19:57:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

19:57:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

19:57:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HEARD COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH A

19:58:01 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:58:02 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?

19:58:04 I HEAR NONE.

19:58:05 WE HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

19:58:09 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS?

19:58:10 I FORGOT WHO READ THIS THE FIRST TIME FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.

19:58:16 WAS IT COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO?

19:58:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE CORRECT, MR. CHAIR.

19:58:20 I MADE THE MOTION.

19:58:23 DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT AGAIN?

19:58:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, READ IT AGAIN, PLEASE.

19:58:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

19:58:30 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

19:58:31 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING -- EXCUSE MOW, I

19:58:36 DIGRESS.




19:58:37 FILE REZ 20-55.

19:58:39 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

19:58:41 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

19:58:43 GENERAL VICINITY OF 2709 WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE CITY

19:58:48 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

19:58:50 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16

19:58:55 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY

19:59:00 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET

19:59:03 THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN COMPLIANCE WITH GOALS, OBJECTIVES

19:59:09 AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT HAS MET

19:59:12 THE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPLIANCE.

19:59:19 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

19:59:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

19:59:21 DO WE HAVE A SOAKED TO THIS MOTION?

19:59:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

19:59:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

19:59:28 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD, SIR.

19:59:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:59:31 JUST A COMMENT ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE?

19:59:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

19:59:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:59:39 I APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK THROUGH THE HEARING.

19:59:42 YOU INDICATED, MR. VIERA AND I HAD SEVERE TECHNICAL

19:59:48 PROBLEMS BUT WE ARE GLAD TO BE REJOINING THE MEETING.

19:59:51 FOR THE RECORD I HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY FOR




19:59:54 AND AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

19:59:56 THE TESTIMONY THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPOKEN TO, AT LEAST IN MY

20:00:01 OPINION, ARE THE LETTERS THAT WE RECEIVED, WHICH OF

20:00:04 COURSE UNLESS I AM WRONG, MR. SHELBY CAN TELL ME I AM

20:00:09 WRONG, BUT THE LETTERS WE RECEIVED CAN PROVIDE COMPETENT,

20:00:12 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT.

20:00:17 SPECIFICALLY, I WILL POINT OUT TO THE LETTER DATED

20:00:20 YESTERDAY, AUGUST 19th, TO ALL OF US, AND IT GOES

20:00:24 INTO THE RECORD AS WELL, GOES TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, FROM

20:00:28 MS. SANDY SANCHEZ, PRESIDENT OF ARMORY GARDENS CIVIC

20:00:32 ASSOCIATION WHO LIVES THEREBY, AND SHE INDICATES THAT NOT

20:00:36 ONLY IS SHE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING BUT HER ASSOCIATION

20:00:41 AND ITS MEMBERS, THE ARMORY GARDENS CIVIC ASSOCIATION,

20:00:44 AND ITS MEMBERS ARE OPPOSED TO REZONING.

20:00:48 I AM GOING TO READ A LITTLE BIT OF IT, BECAUSE I DON'T

20:00:50 THINK SHE WAS ABLE TO ATTEND.

20:00:53 BUT SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

20:00:55 SHE SAYS WE HAVE CARS THAT TAKE SHORTCUTS AND SPEED

20:00:58 THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY.

20:00:59 WE ARE A VERY NARROW STREETS AND WITH VERY SMALL

20:01:03 SIDEWALKS.

20:01:04 EXCESS CARS CAUSE EXCESS PARKING PROBLEMS.

20:01:08 ADULTS AND CHILDREN HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET AND AROUND

20:01:11 CARS THAT PARKED IN THE STREET AND THAT CREATES A

20:01:13 DANGEROUS SITUATION.




20:01:14 AND THAT'S MS. MS. SANCHEZ.

20:01:17 I AM GOING TO MAKE REFERENCE TO COUPLE OTHERS JUST SO THE

20:01:20 RECORD IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.

20:01:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT

20:01:25 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:01:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

20:01:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS ABSOLUTELY

20:01:31 RIGHT.

20:01:32 THOSE ARE COMMENTS THAT COME IN SHOULD BE GIVEN

20:01:38 CONSIDERATION AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS IF THE PERSON WERE

20:01:42 AT THE HEARING.

20:01:44 HOWEVER, I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, AND THIS IS

20:01:48 SOMETHING THAT THE FIRST CASE CAME UP IN THE COURSE OF US

20:01:54 GOING VIRTUAL, THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PETITIONER

20:02:05 TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE PEOPLE FOR CROSS-EXAMINATION.

20:02:10 HOWEVER, WHAT YOU ARE RECITING NOW, IS AFTER THE HEARING

20:02:14 IS CLOSED -- IS THAT CORRECT, MR. CHAIRMAN?

20:02:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

20:02:18 THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

20:02:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF ANYBODY IS

20:02:23 GOING TO REFERENCE ANYTHING, IT BE DONE -- AND MR.

20:02:26 DINGFELDER, I APOLOGIZE, BUT ON REFLECTION, I WOULD SAY

20:02:31 THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO REFER TO EVIDENCE THAT IS IN

20:02:36 WRITING THAT YOU DO IT WHILE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN

20:02:40 BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ALSO THAT YOU DO IT BEFORE




20:02:43 THE PETITIONER HAS THE CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL.

20:02:46 IN THIS CASE WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS ASK THE PUBLIC

20:02:49 HEARING BE REOPENED SO THAT PETITIONER DOES HAVE A CHANCE

20:02:52 TO REBUT, AND MR. DINGFELDER CAN MAKE HIS COMMENTS AS

20:02:55 PART OF THE HEARING ITSELF.

20:02:57 AND ALSO, I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING ABOUT

20:02:59 THOSE ISSUES IN WRITING.

20:03:01 LETTERS -- AND I DON'T HAVE TO SAY THIS TO COUNCIL

20:03:07 MEMBERS BUT CERTAINLY FOR THE PUBLIC -- BUT IT'S

20:03:10 IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REMEMBER THIS -- LETTERS

20:03:13 FOR OR IN OPPOSITION, IN WRITING, ARE NOT COMPETENT,

20:03:16 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

20:03:18 IT'S THE FACTS THAT ARE WITHIN THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT TAKEN

20:03:26 ASIDE FROM THE OPINION ARE WHAT CONSTITUTE COMPETENT,

20:03:30 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT IS

20:03:34 IN FACT SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO PACE YOUR DECISION ON

20:03:37 THAT SO I ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

20:03:40 I APOLOGIZE FOR GOING ON ABOUT THIS BUT THIS IS THE FIRST

20:03:43 TIME IT HAS COME UP IN THIS CONTEXT SO I APPRECIATE IT.

20:03:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE

20:03:47 PUBLIC HEARING?

20:03:49 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND

20:03:51 FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:03:52 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

20:03:54 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.




20:03:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

20:03:59 THE NEXT ONE IS FROM DAN HOLLANDER, 2711 NORTH B SINCE

20:04:07 2014, SO HE SOUNDS LIKE HE'S GOT SOME SIGNIFICANT

20:04:10 EXPERIENCE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

20:04:12 AND ON THE SECOND PARAGRAPH HE SAYS THE TRAFFIC ON AN

20:04:16 ALREADY CROWDED STREET HAS INCREASED SINCE THE TWO STOP

20:04:19 SIGNS WERE ADDED TO HABANA AVENUE, AND ASKING FOR TRAFFIC

20:04:31 AND CONTINUED STREET PARKING ISSUE.

20:04:44 SHE DOESN'T CARE HOW LONG SHE'S LIVED THERE BUT SHE

20:04:47 INDICATES SHE'S LIVED ON 2700 BLOCK OF NORTH B.

20:04:52 MARY JACOBS, 2700, AGAIN CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

20:04:58 AND PARKING.

20:05:03 AND ABIGAIL AND RICK JUST BOUGHT A HOME IN THE

20:05:07 NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOW SAYS THIS REZONING WOULD HAVE

20:05:09 NEGATIVE EFFECT AND LOWER HER PROPERTY VALUES.

20:05:13 THOSE ARE THE ONES I SEE.

20:05:15 I DON'T SEE ANY IN FAVOR OF IT.

20:05:17 BUT IT'S NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST.

20:05:19 BUT I GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTIONS TO THE PLANNING

20:05:22 COMMISSION STAFF.

20:05:24 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF TESTIFIED THAT THE AVERAGE

20:05:31 DENSITY OF THESE BLOCKS, SIR ROUNDING BLOCKS, IS 8 UNITS

20:05:34 PER ACRE, AND THAT THIS IS 17 BE UNITS PER ACRE MORE THAN

20:05:38 TWICE THE DENSITY.

20:05:43 THE OTHER THING I POINTED OUT WAS -- AND STAFF AGREED




20:05:47 WITH ME.

20:05:47 I THINK IT WAS MARY, THAT WITHIN THREE OR FOUR BLOCKS

20:05:51 RUNNING NORTH-SOUTH, THERE WAS NO PRECEDENT WHATSOEVER

20:05:56 FOR INCREASING THE DENSITY FROM THE RM-16 UP TO -- TO THE

20:06:07 RM-18.

20:06:08 SO IN THIS AND MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IT BECOMES A

20:06:16 SLIPPERY SLOPE, BECAUSE THE NEXT DEVELOPER COMES IN, AND

20:06:18 HE BUYS TWO OR THREE HOUSES AND PUTS THEM TOGETHER, AND

20:06:21 THEN HE POINTS TO THIS ONE.

20:06:23 AND THEN PRETTY SOON THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS

20:06:25 TRANSITIONED.

20:06:29 SOME COUNCIL MANY, MANY YEARS AGO MADE A DETERMINATION

20:06:31 THAT THIS WAS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS PROJECT,

20:06:36 THIS AREA, THIS PART OF ARMORY GARDENS.

20:06:39 THAT'S THE RM-16.

20:06:41 BUT IF WE LET PEOPLE CHISEL AWAY AT IT ONE BY ONE, THEN

20:06:46 WE MIGHT AS WELL CHANGE THE WHOLE THING TO AN RM 20

20:06:49 TODAY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

20:06:53 IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

20:06:55 AND GOING TO THE FACTS IN EVIDENCE, MR. SHELBY, AND IF I

20:06:58 HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT, I WOULD

20:07:01 POINT TO THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, THE PARKING ISSUES, THE LACK

20:07:06 OF SIDEWALKS, AS WELL AS THE -- NO REAL JUSTIFICATION FOR

20:07:11 THE DENSITY.

20:07:13 EVEN THE PETITIONER SAID HE CAN BUILD A TOWN HOME, HE CAN




20:07:16 BUILD TWO UNITS.

20:07:18 BUT HE WANTS TO BUILD THREE.

20:07:22 I DON'T SEE THAT --

20:07:26 >> MR. CHAIR.

20:07:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT

20:07:29 EVEN IF THEY MADE A MOTION OR EVEN IF THEY MADE THE

20:07:32 SECOND, THEY DON'T HAVE TO VOTE YES ON THE MOTION.

20:07:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WON'T SPEAK FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE

20:07:42 COUNCIL BUT I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

20:07:43 I DO NOT INTEND TO SET PRECEDENT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

20:07:47 WE HAVE QUASI-JUDICIAL, HEAR EACH CASE BASED ON THE

20:07:51 COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF EACH CASE.

20:07:56 NOT TO SET A PRECEDENT.

20:07:58 MR. CHAIR, I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

20:08:01 THANK YOU.

20:08:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, WE'LL GET THERE WHEN WE GET

20:08:06 THERE.

20:08:07 IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?

20:08:10 I HEAR NONE.

20:08:11 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?

20:08:13 >> SO MOVED.

20:08:16 >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS CATE WELLS.

20:08:17 GIVEN THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION IN REFERENCE TO THE

20:08:21 LETTERS, I RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT BE ALLOWED

20:08:24 REBUTTAL BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.




20:08:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

20:08:27 OKAY.

20:08:27 APPLICANT, YOU HEARD COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN

20:08:34 CITRO. DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE FOR ANY REBUTTAL BEFORE WE

20:08:37 GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING?

20:08:39 >> CHRIS HEMMINGS: YO.

20:08:43 I WILL SAY THAT PER THE CODE OR RULE, I HAVE NOTICED

20:08:48 EVERYBODY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF MY HOUSE, AND I DID

20:08:58 FIELD PHONE CALLS, SEVERAL LOOKED AT WHAT WE WERE

20:09:07 BUILDING AND ALL THESE THINGS.

20:09:09 WE MOAT NO RESISTANCE.

20:09:12 EVERYBODY SEEMED PLEASED.

20:09:13 I ACTUALLY MET WITH MY NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT, 2705, LAST

20:09:19 WEEK.

20:09:20 AND INVITED ME OVER, AND WE DISCUSSED THE FENCE, THE

20:09:26 SHADE TREES AND SUCH, AND HE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

20:09:33 IF ANYBODY -- I CALLED MARY'S OFFICE, SAYING THERE WERE

20:09:45 NO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION. SO CERTAINLY WE WOULD HAVE

20:09:51 PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH ANYBODY.

20:09:52 MY INTENT IS NOT TO -- THESE UNITS.

20:09:55 IT'S TO KEEP THEM WITHIN MY FAMILY.

20:09:59 YOU KNOW, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO IMPROVE WHAT WE HAVE

20:10:03 THERE.

20:10:03 AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE EXTRA TRAFFIC OR

20:10:08 CAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ANY GRIEF.




20:10:09 WE ARE TRYING TO ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF ANYTHING.

20:10:13 SO I STILL RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU TO APPROVE WHAT WE

20:10:19 ARE REQUESTING.

20:10:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

20:10:23 CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

20:10:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A MOTION.

20:10:30 SOAKED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

20:10:32 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?

20:10:35 HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

20:10:40 DOES ANYBODY WISH TO READ THIS ORDINANCE, ITEM NUMBER 3,

20:10:44 NOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO HAS INDICATED HE WISHES TO

20:10:49 WITHDRAW THAT?

20:10:50 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO READ THIS ORDINANCE?

20:10:53 ANYBODY?

20:10:58 ALL RIGHT.

20:10:59 HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO MAKE A

20:11:02 MOTION FOR DENIAL AT THIS TIME?

20:11:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CITRO, YOU HAD THE FLOOR BEFORE

20:11:15 WITH THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

20:11:16 IT SOUND LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE CHANGED YOUR MIND OR

20:11:18 WHATEVER.

20:11:18 AND I APPRECIATE THAT GREATLY.

20:11:20 YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO MAKE A MOTION.

20:11:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DID NOT CHANGE MY MIND.

20:11:28 I AM JUST WITHDRAWING MY MOTION, MR. DINGFELDER.




20:11:31 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED AND MAKE A MOTION ON YOUR

20:11:33 OWN, PLEASE DO SO.

20:11:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU WISH

20:11:38 TO MAKE A MOTION?

20:11:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

20:11:40 CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?

20:11:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

20:11:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.

20:11:45 YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

20:11:49 RESPECTFULLY TO THE APPLICANT, I WILL MOVE TO DENY THIS

20:11:54 REZONING, AND IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME WITH THE NUMBER.

20:12:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REZ 20-55.

20:12:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REZ 20-55.

20:12:09 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT -- I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT

20:12:14 ADDRESS AND I APOLOGIZE.

20:12:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS 2709 WEST NORTH B STREET.

20:12:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

20:12:23 I AM FULLY AWARE OF THE ISSUES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT

20:12:28 THE DETAILS GOT COVERED UP ON MY NOTEBOOK.

20:12:31 ANYWAY, I WILL MOVE TO DENY THAT REZONING PETITION TO

20:12:34 THAT ADDRESS ON NORTH B DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE

20:12:37 APPLICANT TO MEET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE

20:12:39 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS

20:12:41 CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE,

20:12:44 SPECIFICALLY, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN TESTIMONY BOTH




20:12:49 IN PERSON AND IN WRITING FROM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT

20:12:54 COMMUNITY AND WHO LIVED IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR MANY, MANY

20:12:57 YEARS, WHO ARE WELL AWARE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE

20:13:04 FACTS IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND THE CONCERNS OF THAT

20:13:07 COMMUNITY, AND SPECIFICALLY I'LL MAKE REFERENCE TO THE

20:13:10 THREE MAIN ISSUES THAT I READ AND HEARD ABOUT, WHICH IS A

20:13:15 CONCERN ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC, THE CONCERN ABOUT

20:13:19 INCREASED PARKING, AND A CONCERN ABOUT LACK OF SIDEWALKS,

20:13:23 AND THEREFORE PUBLIC SAFETY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED TO

20:13:27 WALK ON THE STREETS AND COMPETE WITH THE CARS THAT ARE

20:13:29 PARKED AND DRIVING THROUGH.

20:13:32 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARMORY GARDENS, A LARGE

20:13:35 GROUP OF WELL INFORMED AND ACTIVE FOLKS, HAVE VOICED

20:13:39 SIMILAR CONCERNS THROUGH THEIR PRESIDENT.

20:13:43 THE FACTS OF THE MATTER AS STATED BY OUR OWN STAFF ARE

20:13:47 THAT THE AVERAGE DENSITY, THE CURRENT DENSITY, NOT SOME

20:13:53 FUTURE 2040 DENSITY, BUT THE CURRENT DENSITY TODAY IN

20:13:57 THOSE SURROUNDING BLOCKS IS 8 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE

20:14:01 PROPOSED DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT IS 17 UNITS PER ACRE,

20:14:08 GIVE OR TAKE.

20:14:09 I BELIEVE THAT THAT CREATES A BAD PRECEDENT AND THAT IT

20:14:13 IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN A VARIETY

20:14:19 OF PROVISIONS.

20:14:25 I WANT TO NOTE SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED PROBABLY 20, 25

20:14:29 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND UM NOT




20:14:32 OFFERING FACTS INTO EVIDENCE BUT JUST SORT OF THINGS I

20:14:35 LEARNED WHEN I WAS FIRST LEARNING ABOUT WHAT ZONING IS,

20:14:38 BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAD AN R-20 CATEGORY.

20:14:41 THAT MEANS THAT IT'S A MAXIMUM OF 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

20:14:45 BUT IT'S NOT AN ENTITLEMENT TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

20:14:51 THIS GENTLEMAN ALREADY HAS AN ENTITLEMENT TO 16 UNITS PER

20:14:55 ACRE AND A MULTIFAMILY CATEGORY.

20:14:58 IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE GOING UP TO THE RM-18 IS

20:15:04 INCONSISTENT WITH NOT ONLY THE COMP PLAN BUT THE

20:15:06 PROVISIONS OF THE STATE CODE.

20:15:08 THANK YOU.

20:15:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:15:10 THAT IS THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:15:11 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

20:15:14 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND, CARLSON.

20:15:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

20:15:19 MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE?

20:15:21 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

20:15:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, BEFORE I RECORD MY VOTE I

20:15:40 WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SHORT BRIEF COMMENT IN REFERENCE TO

20:15:42 THE MOTION BEFORE I MAKE MY VOTE.

20:15:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

20:15:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THESE ARE NEVER EASY.

20:15:53 WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WANT TO STAY

20:16:01 CONSISTENT.




20:16:02 AND WHEN YOU TELL ME THAT AN RM 20 -- -- AND HAVE AN

20:16:10 RM-18, RM-16, SO YOU HAVE A WIDE RANGE IN LOOKING ON THE

20:16:15 MAP AND SEEING --

20:16:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

20:16:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THAT'S THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

20:16:28 SO HOW DO WE SAY, WELL, MAKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS STAY

20:16:34 CONSISTENT.

20:16:37 ME, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE NO ON THIS ONE HERE.

20:16:44 IF I AM THE ONLY VOTE.

20:16:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, ARE YOU ON THE

20:16:49 LINE OR NOT?

20:16:51 >>LUIS VIERA: I GOT CUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF JOHN

20:16:54 DINGFELDER'S MOTION AND I HAD TO SWITCH COMPUTERS.

20:16:58 I HAVE BEEN IN TECH HELL.

20:17:02 MR. SHELBY, I MEAN, I MISSED WHAT WAS SAID IN THE LAST

20:17:04 TWO MINUTES, MORE OR LESS.

20:17:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE IT REPEATED

20:17:08 IF IT'S ONLY TWO MINUTES?

20:17:10 >>LUIS VIERA: WHO SPOKE?

20:17:15 I SAW COUNCILMAN GUDES VOTING NO.

20:17:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.

20:17:21 I DO WANT TO SUMMARIZE YOUR COMMENT?

20:17:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BASICALLY, THAT TO ME THERE'S A LOT

20:17:27 OF -- I BELIEVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS STRONGLY.

20:17:34 WHEN I LOOK AT HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGING, THE




20:17:38 DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, I JUST FEEL

20:17:43 UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES, AND

20:17:47 SO I THINK OUR CODE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NEEDS TO BE

20:17:50 LOOKED AT, BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO ME EVERYWHERE, AND IT

20:17:55 ISN'T CONSISTENT.

20:17:55 THAT'S WHY I AM VOTING NO.

20:17:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU COMFORTABLE VOTING, SIR?

20:18:03 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, ME?

20:18:04 YES.

20:18:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, IS THAT CORRECT?

20:18:14 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

20:18:17 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE WE VOTING NOW?

20:18:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

20:18:22 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GREAT.

20:18:28 I WAS GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION TO DENY.

20:18:30 I APPRECIATE WHERE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS COMING FROM.

20:18:33 I SEE HERE A REPORT FINDING THAT IT'S CONSISTENT BY CITY

20:18:37 STAFF, CONSISTENT BY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THIS WOULD

20:18:43 BE FRANKLY THE -- I THINK FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED REASONS

20:18:48 I WILL RESPECTFULLY VOTE NO.

20:18:50 SO NO.

20:18:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THE COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES VOTE?

20:19:05 >>THE CLERK: NO.

20:19:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT A NO VOTE IS A

20:19:09 VOTE NOT TO DENY BECAUSE THE MOTION IS TO DENY.




20:19:12 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. DINGFELDER?

20:19:13 YOUR MOTION IS TO DENY?

20:19:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY MOTION IS TO DENY.

20:19:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.

20:19:19 SO AS LONG AS I AM CLEAR.

20:19:20 THANK YOU.

20:19:21 SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR.

20:19:22 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?

20:19:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

20:19:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

20:19:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

20:19:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

20:19:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.

20:19:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, GUDES, CITRO, AND

20:19:43 MIRANDA VOTING NO.

20:19:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID COUNCILMAN GUDES VOTE YES TO

20:19:50 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION?

20:19:52 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR --

20:19:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WAS NO, SIR.

20:19:59 >>LUIS VIERA: MY APOLOGIES.

20:20:00 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I AM RUNNING LATE FOR MY

20:20:05 SON'S GOING AWAY PARTY.

20:20:07 AND MY VOTE IS NOT GOING TO MATTER NOW ANYWAY.

20:20:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IT WILL.

20:20:11 EXCUSE ME, SIR.




20:20:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE.

20:20:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY IS THAT THE CASE?

20:20:15 I THINK EVERYBODY'S VOTE MATTERS HERE IN THIS CASE.

20:20:18 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, BECAUSE NOW IT'S GOING TO PASS.

20:20:20 SO I AM VOTING NO.

20:20:23 SO MY VOTE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT.

20:20:24 >> OKAY.

20:20:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION THEN?

20:20:28 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS, TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE?

20:20:30 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

20:20:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD ON ITEM NUMBER 3.

20:20:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

20:20:39 AGAIN I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL MY COLLEAGUES FOR THE TERRIBLE

20:20:43 TECHNOLOGICAL --

20:20:45 >>> THAT'S OKAY.

20:20:45 GO AHEAD, SIR.

20:20:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I READ AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

20:20:49 FIRST READING K AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

20:20:52 GENERAL VICINITY OF 27 ON THE WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE

20:20:55 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

20:20:57 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 TO

20:21:04 RM-18 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

20:21:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

20:21:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

20:21:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.




20:21:12 ROLL CALL VOTE.

20:21:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

20:21:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

20:21:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.

20:21:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.

20:21:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

20:21:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

20:21:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER AND

20:21:33 MANISCALCO VOTING NO, CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

20:21:36 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD SEPTEMBER

20:21:39 24th AT 6:00 P.M.

20:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

20:21:43 WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 8 NOW.

20:21:45 ITEM NUMBER 8.

>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 8 NOW.

20:21:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST AS A POINT OF

20:21:56 ORDER.

20:21:57 IN THE YEARS THAT I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL, BY THE TIME I

20:22:00 CAME BACK, CHAIRMAN HAD THIS HABIT OF WHEN WE GET DONE

20:22:06 WITH A ZONING, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING DOES ANYBODY HAVE A

20:22:10 MOTION, THE CHAIRMAN ALWAYS ASKED FOR WHO HAS A FAVORABLE

20:22:16 MOTION?

20:22:17 AND I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOU, MR. MANISCALCO.

20:22:21 YOUR PREDECESSOR DID IT AS WELL.

20:22:23 I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME ON OVER THE LAST EIGHT




20:22:26 YEARS.

20:22:27 I FIND IT RATHER UNUSUAL BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST LIKE SOME

20:22:30 PREDISPOSITION, AND THE REASON I'M TALKING BETWEEN

20:22:37 HEARINGS, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HEARING BEFORE

20:22:39 OR THE HEARING AFTER.

20:22:40 BUT JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL PERSPECTIVE, AND WE DON'T HAVE

20:22:43 TO ADDRESS IT TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO THINK

20:22:45 ABOUT IT.

20:22:47 IT'S ALMOST LIKE A PREDISPOSITION THAT COUNCIL IS GOING

20:22:50 TO APPROVE ANYTHING UNLESS WE DON'T.

20:22:52 INSTEAD OF SAYING DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION.

20:22:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN 2015, WE

20:23:01 WOULD ALWAYS SEE IF SOMEONE WOULD READ THE ORDINANCE

20:23:04 FAVORABLE TO PASS IT.

20:23:05 IF IT WOULD FAIL, WE WOULD READ A MOTION OF DENIAL JUST

20:23:09 TO KEEP THE RECORD FAIR AND CLEAN SO THERE WAS AN

20:23:12 OPPORTUNITY OF AN APPROVAL.

20:23:13 THAT'S AS FAR AS I KNOW PROCEDURALLY, SINCE I CAME ON IN

20:23:19 2015.

20:23:19 MR. SHELBY, I'M CURIOUS, ONCE WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING,

20:23:23 IS IT LEGAL AND CORRECT TO JUST AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER

20:23:27 ASKED, IF SOMEONE HAS A MOTION TO MAKE, WHETHER IT'S

20:23:30 DENIAL OR IN FAVOR, OR DO WE HAVE TO GO IN THAT ORDER OF

20:23:34 VOTING TO SEE IF WE PASS IT AND IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN

20:23:37 WE HAVE TO GO IN ORDER TO DENY IT?




20:23:42 MR. SHELBY.

20:23:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING FROM MY RECOLLECTION BUT MY

20:23:46 UNDERSTANDING WAS WHEN COUNCIL MET IN CHAMBERS, WHAT YOU

20:23:49 WOULD DO FOR ORDER IS GO DOWN THE LINE AND ASK IF THE

20:23:56 COUNCIL MEMBER WAS WILLING TO READ THE ORDINANCE AND IF

20:23:59 NOT, TO MOVE ALONG IN THAT WAY.

20:24:02 SOMETIMES WHEN AN ITEM IS CONTESTED AND CERTAINLY THE

20:24:05 FACTS ARE SUBJECT TO BEING WEIGHED, THEN THE CHAIR

20:24:12 SOMETIMES DOES, WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?

20:24:14 I'VE HEARD THAT BOTH.

20:24:18 CERTAINLY, I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S CONCERN.

20:24:22 THIS BOARD IS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.

20:24:24 THIS BOARD DOES NOT HAVE ANY PREDISPOSITION.

20:24:27 THIS BOARD CANNOT HAVE ANY PREDISPOSITION.

20:24:30 SO MY SUGGESTION IS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE, BUT

20:24:33 THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS SO IT DOESN'T

20:24:37 HAVE TO APPEAR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

20:24:39 SO I'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND WITH LEGAL

20:24:41 OFF-LINE.

20:24:42 SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU MR. DINGFELDER.

20:24:45 I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

20:24:46 NOW THAT WE ARE IN A VIRTUAL SETTING, WE'RE IN A VERY

20:24:49 DIFFERENT WORD, FRANKLY, THAN WE WERE WHEN IN CHAMBERS.

20:24:54 WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH THE EFFECTS OF THAT.

20:24:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.




20:24:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:24:58 ITEM NUMBER 8, THIS IS THE PETITION FROM MR. GARDNER.

20:25:02 I BELIEVE HE IS ONLINE AND CONNECTED.

20:25:05 I HOPE HE IS.

20:25:06 REMEMBER, WE NEED TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN BEFORE THEY

20:25:09 SPEAK.

20:25:09 GO AHEAD.

20:25:11 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

20:25:13 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WOULD TELL THE TRUTH, THE

20:25:15 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

20:25:18 >> YES.

20:25:18 >> I DO.

20:25:18 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

20:25:23 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.

20:25:24 ITEM 8 IS REZ20-43.

20:25:27 REZONING REQUEST FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED

20:25:29 DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1307 WEST KENNEDY

20:25:32 BOULEVARD.

20:25:35 JENNIFER MALONE.

20:25:42 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'M

20:25:47 READY TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

20:25:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

20:25:50 THERE YOU GO.

20:25:50 GO AHEAD.

20:25:51 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.




20:25:52 THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT WITHIN THE

20:25:56 NORTH HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, MORE SPECIFICALLY.

20:25:59 THERE IS A TRANSIT STOP LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SITE

20:26:01 SERVED BY HART ROUTE 30, AND IT IS WITHIN A LEVEL C

20:26:06 EVACUATION ZONE.

20:26:07 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:26:09 THIS IS A PORTION OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.

20:26:13 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, A VARIETY OF USES TO THE NORTH OF

20:26:18 THE SUBJECT SITE ON GENERAL PARCEL USES SURROUNDING THE

20:26:24 AREA.

20:26:24 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS URBAN

20:26:27 MIXED USE 60.

20:26:28 THAT IS A VERY INTENSE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT

20:26:31 ALLOWS FOR -- IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR HIGH INTENSITY, SLASH,

20:26:36 DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL

20:26:37 DEVELOPMENT.

20:26:40 THERE IS ALSO GENERAL MIXED USE 24 IN THE AREA.

20:26:43 THAT IS THE VERY LIGHT BLUE COLOR AND TO THE NORTH IS

20:26:46 RESIDENTIAL 20, WHICH IS PROBABLY SIGNIFYING SOME OF THE

20:26:51 RESIDENCES.

20:26:52 THE BLUE IS PUBLIC, WHICH IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA

20:26:54 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

20:26:56 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE

20:26:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:27:00 FOUND THAT THE APPLICANT AND MARY SAMANIEGO CAN CERTAINLY




20:27:04 GIVE A BETTER OVERVIEW OF THE REQUEST THAN I WILL, BUT IT

20:27:08 IS SEEKING TO ADD CERTAIN USES TO THE PD AND WE DIDN'T

20:27:13 FIND THAT THERE WAS ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE

20:27:16 LAYOUT.

20:27:17 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES JUST REQUEST THAT THE

20:27:19 APPLICANT -- OH, AND ALSO, AS PART OF THE DESIGN, WE WERE

20:27:25 SUPPORTIVE OF THE ENTRANCES OR -- TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK

20:27:28 AND WINDOWS LOCATED ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD, ARE

20:27:30 PROVIDING FOR THAT BUILDING TRANSPARENCY, WHAT THE

20:27:34 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR.

20:27:35 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

20:27:37 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

20:27:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MALONE?

20:27:42 ANY QUESTIONS?

20:27:43 I HEAR NONE.

20:27:44 MARY, TAKE IT AWAY.

20:27:45 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.

20:27:47 CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

20:27:49 THIS IS 20-43, AGAIN, PROPERTY AT 1307 WEST KENNEDY

20:27:53 BOULEVARD.

20:27:54 IT'S FROM PD TO PD TO ALLOW FOR A CHANGE OF VARIOUS USES.

20:28:00 THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY, LIKE I SAID, ZONED PLANNED

20:28:03 DEVELOPMENT.

20:28:04 IT WAS REZONED THE LAST TIME TO A PD BACK IN 2014 WITH

20:28:10 FILE NUMBER REZ 14-62, FOR TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL MEDICAL




20:28:19 USE.

20:28:19 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF 533,000 SQUARE FEET,

20:28:23 INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING SPECIFICS.

20:28:26 150 BEDS WITHIN A 265,000 SQUARE FEET NURSING

20:28:32 CONVALESCENT CARE FACILITY.

20:28:34 A HUNDRED ROOMS OR 100,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOTEL/MOTEL.

20:28:38 53,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

20:28:42 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF MEDICAL OFFICE, AND 15,000 SQUARE

20:28:46 FEET OF DAY CARE USE FOR EMPLOYEES.

20:28:52 THERE ARE EIGHT EXISTING WAIVERS THAT WILL FOLLOW

20:28:57 THROUGH.

20:28:57 AGAIN, THE CATALYST FOR THIS PETITION, NOTHING IS

20:29:01 CHANGING ON THE SITE PLAN FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2014.

20:29:05 THE ONLY CHANGE FOR THIS ENTIRE PD IS THE ELIMINATION OF

20:29:09 THE PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY USED TO

20:29:14 BE REPLACED WITH A NURSING AND CONVALESCENT CARE USE.

20:29:17 REMOVAL OF A COLLEGE USE TO BE REPLACED WITH A PRINCIPAL

20:29:22 PARKING USE.

20:29:22 THE ENTIRE SITE PLAN WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

20:29:27 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'D BE ADOPTING TONIGHT IF

20:29:30 IT'S YOUR PLEASURE.

20:29:31 IT MIRRORS THE 2014 PLAN.

20:29:35 THE ONLY CHANGE IS THAT SINCE 2014, THE EXISTING TREES ON

20:29:38 THE SITE HAVE GROWN, SO THE TREE TABLE HAS BEEN UPDATED

20:29:42 TO REFLECT THE ACCURATE CURRENT SIZE OF THE TREES ON-SITE




20:29:49 AS WELL AS, AS YOU KNOW, YOUR TREE CODE CHANGED A LITTLE

20:29:53 OVER A YEAR AGO, SO THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL WAIVER TO

20:29:57 ALLOW FOR LESS THAN 50% OF THE REQUIRED TREES TO BE

20:30:01 PRESERVED ON-SITE.

20:30:02 AGAIN, BASED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN

20:30:05 2014 IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED BUT YOUR TREE CODE

20:30:10 DID.

20:30:12 SAYING THAT, HERE IS A ZOOMED-IN VIEW OF THE PROPOSED

20:30:17 SITE PLAN.

20:30:17 AGAIN, JUST WITH THE CHANGE OF USES, YOU CAN SEE THE

20:30:20 BUILDING IS ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

20:30:22 THIS IS IN THE KENNEDY COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD OVERLAY,

20:30:27 URBAN DESIGN DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT.

20:30:31 THERE'S A LOADING AREA HERE.

20:30:32 HERE IS A MAIN PART OF THE BUILDING WITH THE CIRCULAR

20:30:36 DRIVEWAY.

20:30:37 THERE'S ACCESS COMING OFF OF WILLOW AVENUE AND NORTH

20:30:39 OREGON.

20:30:40 THERE IS NO DIRECT ACCESS FROM KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

20:30:43 AND THEN IN THE REAR IS A STRUCTURED GARAGE AND SOME

20:30:46 SURFACE PARKING.

20:30:48 THERE IS SOME BUILDING ELEVATIONS PROPOSED FOR THE

20:30:52 SUBJECT PROPERTY.

20:30:53 AGAIN, THIS IS THE FRONT FACADE ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

20:30:58 THE BOTTOM PICTURE SHOWS THE SURFACE PARKING LOT AND THE




20:31:01 PARKING FOR GARAGE IN THE REAR.

20:31:04 HERE IS THE TREE INVENTORY, BASED ON YOUR CURRENT TREE

20:31:08 CODE THAT IS FOUND IN YOUR PACKETS.

20:31:11 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN RED, CURRENTLY USED FOR

20:31:17 SATELLITE PARKING.

20:31:19 THERE IS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT UP AND DOWN WEST KENNEDY

20:31:22 BOULEVARD, UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS ACROSS THE RAILROAD

20:31:26 TRACKS TO THE EAST, GOING UP INTO THE RIVERFRONT

20:31:31 NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH WHERE THAT CARRIES SOME

20:31:34 TRANSITION OVER TO APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES AND THEN THIS

20:31:37 COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY TO THE EAST WITH THE

20:31:40 SHOPPING CENTER -- I'M SORRY, TO THE WEST.

20:31:43 HERE IS A ZOOMED-IN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

20:31:46 IT'S BASICALLY VACANT BUT CURRENTLY USED FOR TEMPORARY

20:31:49 SATELLITE PARKING.

20:31:53 SAYING THAT, THERE ARE MINOR CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND

20:31:55 SECOND READING.

20:31:57 JUST FROM NATURAL RESOURCES, ONE NOTE THAT NEEDS TO BE

20:32:00 ADDED.

20:32:01 OTHER THAN THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE

20:32:03 STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

20:32:06 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PENDING THOSE REVISIONS BETWEEN

20:32:10 FIRST AND SECOND READING.

20:32:11 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS NATURAL

20:32:13 RESOURCES AND TRANSPORTATION ARE ALSO AVAILABLE.




20:32:15 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

20:32:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:32:20 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

20:32:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:32:25 APPLICANT, HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?

20:32:29 YOU DID.

20:32:30 I SAW YOU GET SWORN IN.

20:32:32 OKAY.

20:32:32 GO AHEAD, SIR.

20:32:33 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

20:32:36 >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

20:32:40 PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU VIRTUALLY.

20:32:42 CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT?

20:32:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, WE CAN SEE YOU AND WE CAN

20:32:45 HEAR YOU.

20:32:46 >>TRUETT GARDNER: PERFECT.

20:32:48 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF FLORIDA HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER,

20:32:51 INC. WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.

20:32:54 WITH ME OUT IN THE VIRTUAL STRATOSPHERE IS RANDY COEN,

20:32:58 WHO IS THE PROJECT PLANNER AND TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, AND

20:33:01 THEN ALSO TGH'S REAL ESTATE TEAM, CHERYL EAGAN, ROBIN

20:33:05 DELAVERGNE, TAMARA RICE, AND DUSTIN PASTEUR.

20:33:09 AND MS. SAMANIEGO AND MS. MALONE GAVE A COMPREHENSIVE

20:33:14 SUMMARY.

20:33:15 OUR STAFF REPORT SHOWS ALL CONSISTENCIES BY REVIEWING




20:33:19 AGENCIES.

20:33:19 ALSO, BASED ON OUR NOTICE, DID GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM

20:33:22 RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.

20:33:23 WE'VE SPOKEN TO THEM.

20:33:25 ALL THAT'S BEEN POSITIVE.

20:33:26 AS A RESULT, I'LL BE BRIEF IN MY COMMENTS, AND IF I

20:33:29 COULD, COULD I SHARE MY SCREEN?

20:33:31 I JUST HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO SHOW.

20:33:39 ACTUALLY, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I'LL FOREGO THE

20:34:44 PowerPoint.

20:34:48 WHAT I'LL SHOW YOU, THIS IS THE OLD FERMAN AUTOMOTIVE

20:34:56 SITE -- THERE WE GO.

20:34:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN.

20:34:59 WE CAN SEE IT.

20:34:59 >>TRUETT GARDNER: PERFECT.

20:35:00 OKAY.

20:35:01 WHAT I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU IS THIS IS THE OLD FERMAN

20:35:05 AUTOMOTIVE SITE.

20:35:06 IT'S A BIG SITE, JUST LESS THAN TEN ACRES, OBVIOUSLY

20:35:08 BOUNDED BY KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON THE SOUTH, WHICH WE HAVE

20:35:12 TAKEN GREAT CONSIDERATION IN.

20:35:13 WILLOW AVENUE ON THE EAST, NORTH B ON THE NORTH, AND

20:35:16 OREGON ON THE WEST.

20:35:17 NEXT PAGE.

20:35:23 IN 2000 -- JUST FOR HISTORY SAKE, IN 2006 IS WHEN FERMAN




20:35:28 SOLD THE SITE.

20:35:29 REALLY FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS IT SAT DORMANT.

20:35:32 IN 2014, THE SITE WAS REZONED.

20:35:36 WE'RE KEEPING WITH THAT SITE PLAN.

20:35:39 YOU'LL NOTICE THIS IS THE VIEW FROM KENNEDY IN THE

20:35:42 FOREGROUND, AND WE REALLY TRIED TO DEVELOP A PARK-LIKE

20:35:45 SETTING, VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ALONG KENNEDY.

20:35:50 AND FROM 2014 TO NOW, WE'VE NOT ONLY KEPT THAT AS

20:35:54 PARAMOUNT BUT IMPROVED UPON IT.

20:35:56 AND AS MARY MENTIONED, REALLY TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING

20:36:00 IS THE EQUIVALENCY MATRIX THAT REALLY CONTROLS THIS

20:36:04 DEVELOPMENT BOTH FROM AN INTENSITY STANDPOINT, A USE

20:36:07 STANDPOINT AND A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT.

20:36:09 WE ARE NEITHER INCREASING THE TRAFFIC OR THE ENTITLEMENT,

20:36:13 JUST ADDING SOME USES.

20:36:15 SO THAT'S THE THRUST OF THIS.

20:36:17 SECOND, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL WAIVER OVER AND ABOVE WHAT

20:36:20 WAS APPROVED IN 2014, BUT THAT'S SOLELY DUE TO A CHANGE

20:36:25 IN THE CODE.

20:36:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GARDNER, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA

20:36:28 ON.

20:36:29 WE NEED TO SEE YOU ON CAMERA AT THE SAME TIME.

20:36:36 THERE YOU GO.

20:36:38 >>TRUETT GARDNER: SORRY ABOUT THAT.

20:36:40 I WAS SPARING YOU FROM HAVING TO SEE ME.




20:36:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S OKAY.

20:36:43 WE'RE GOOD.

20:36:44 GO AHEAD.

20:36:44 >>TRUETT GARDNER: LASTLY, IT'S JUST THE ADDITIONAL WAIVER

20:36:48 DUE TO A CHANGE IN THE CODE WHICH BASICALLY RELOCATE A

20:36:52 PALM TREE ISN'T COUNTED ANYMORE AS A TREE ON-SITE.

20:36:56 IT'S COUNTED AS A REMOVAL.

20:36:57 SO THE WAIVER JUST SOUGHT TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT CODE ON

20:37:01 THAT.

20:37:01 SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

20:37:04 I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYBODY SPEAKING ON THIS FROM THE

20:37:07 AUDIENCE, BUT SHOULD WE DO, WE'D LIKE TO RESERVE OUR TIME

20:37:11 FOR REBUTTAL.

20:37:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:37:12 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT HERE?

20:37:19 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

20:37:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:37:21 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

20:37:22 FIRST OF ALL, IT'S DIFFERENT TO SEE MR. PASTEUR ON THE

20:37:27 OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE DAIS.

20:37:28 HE AND I WORKED TOGETHER ON THE VRB.

20:37:31 BUT TO THE TAMPA GENERAL REPRESENTATIVE, YOU WENT FROM

20:37:36 COLLEGE USE -- I THOUGHT TGH WAS A TEACHING COLLEGE,

20:37:40 ESPECIALLY WITH USF.

20:37:41 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THAT IS CORRECT.




20:37:44 LET ME SEE.

20:37:45 I'VE GOT THE EQUIVALENT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WAS

20:37:48 REPORTED TO YOU BEFORE IS ACCURATE.

20:37:54 CORRECT.

20:37:54 YES, THE COLLEGE USE HAS BEEN REMOVED.

20:37:59 BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED IS TGH HAS DECIDED TO DO THINGS

20:38:04 A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY HERE, AND SO WE REMOVED THAT,

20:38:06 AND THEN ADDED THE OTHER USES THAT MARY MENTIONED AND

20:38:10 THAT ARE ALSO STATED IN THE EQUIVALENCY MATRIX.

20:38:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:38:14 THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME COMING.

20:38:16 I KNOW THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR A LONG,

20:38:20 LONG TIME.

20:38:20 THANK YOU MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

20:38:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:38:22 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

20:38:24 TIME?

20:38:28 I HEAR NONE.

20:38:29 >>CATE WELLS: I DON'T KNOW IF MR. GARDNER HEARD AT THE

20:38:35 BEGINNING OF THE EVENING, WITH REGARD TO THE REQUEST THAT

20:38:37 DUE TO THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES PRESENTED BY

20:38:40 COVID-19, THE CITY IS AGREEING AND ASKING EACH APPLICANT

20:38:45 TO CONFIRM DURING THEIR PRESENTATION THEIR AGREEMENT TO

20:38:48 EXTEND THE 180-DAY TIME FRAME FOR COMPLETION OF

20:38:51 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS AS SET FORTH IN FLORIDA STATUTES




20:38:54 IN CHAPTER 27 OF THE CODE.

20:38:56 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THANK YOU, MS. WELLS, AND WE DO

20:38:59 CONFIRM.

20:39:00 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.

20:39:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:39:02 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?

20:39:05 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

20:39:08 THIS ITEM?

20:39:09 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 8.

20:39:12 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

20:39:14 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?

20:39:19 >> THIS IS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS NOBODY

20:39:21 HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

20:39:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M CURIOUS --

20:39:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING WRITTEN THAT NEEDS TO BE

20:39:27 RECEIVED AND FILED?

20:39:29 CLERK?

20:39:31 >>THE CLERK: NO, THE CLERK OFFICE HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY

20:39:34 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.

20:39:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:39:38 COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYTHING ELSE?

20:39:41 ALL RIGHT.

20:39:43 I'D LIKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

20:39:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 8, MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE TO

20:39:51 CLOSE.




20:39:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

20:39:52 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:39:54 ANY OBJECTION?

20:39:55 I HEAR NONE.

20:39:56 THIS HEARING IS CLOSED.

20:39:58 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE NUMBER 8.

20:40:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

20:40:03 THIS HAS WAIVERS, SO I'LL READ IT AND THEN GO INTO THE

20:40:06 WAIVERS.

20:40:07 MOVE ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE REZ 20-43, AN ORDINANCE BEING

20:40:12 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE

20:40:14 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1307 WEST

20:40:18 KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE

20:40:20 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT

20:40:23 CLASSIFICATION PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL AND

20:40:26 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, DAY CARE AND NURSERY

20:40:31 FACILITY, PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL FACILITY,

20:40:33 HOTEL/MOTEL -- AND IT SAYS COLLEGE) TO PD (PLANNED

20:40:42 DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL AND BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE,

20:40:46 DAY CARE AND NURSERY FACILITY, HOTEL/MOTEL, NURSING AND

20:40:50 CONVALESCENT CARE, PRINCIPAL PARKING); PROVIDING AN

20:40:55 EFFECTIVE DATE.

20:40:55 I MOVE THAT BECAUSE OF WAIVERS SECTION UNDER 27-1394, THE

20:41:01 DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND

20:41:03 THEREFORE IN NEED OF WAIVERS.




20:41:05 THE REQUEST OF WAIVERS WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE

20:41:09 WITH OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD

20:41:11 BE AFFECTED WITH THE WAIVERS AND WITH NEEDED ITEMS FOR

20:41:16 CONSIDERATION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT THE

20:41:18 CITY APPLIED TO.

20:41:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.

20:41:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

20:41:25 CITRO.

20:41:25 LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL.

20:41:27 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

20:41:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

20:41:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

20:41:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

20:41:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

20:41:37 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?

20:41:40 CITRO?

20:41:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

20:41:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

20:41:44 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT

20:41:47 AT VOTE.

20:41:48 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER

20:41:51 24th AT 6 P.M.

20:41:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN ADDRESS MR.

20:41:56 GARDNER.

20:41:57 MR. GARDNER, JUST A REMINDER THAT BECAUSE YOU SHARED YOUR




20:42:02 SCREEN, WE REMIND UP OF THE REQUIREMENT TO SUBMIT YOUR

20:42:05 DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER THE

20:42:08 HEARING TO COUNCIL QUASI-SUBMISSIONS AT TAMPAGOV.NET SO

20:42:12 THEY CAN BE PART OF THE RECORD.

20:42:14 >>TRUETT GARDNER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE

20:42:17 PRESENTATION THAT I SHOWED WAS ALREADY UPLOADED.

20:42:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS.

20:42:22 OKAY.

20:42:22 THE CLERK DOES HAVE A COPY OF IT.

20:42:27 >>THE CLERK: DO HAVE A COPY.

20:42:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

20:42:31 YOU'RE GOOD.

20:42:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:42:34 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THANK YOU ALL.

20:42:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GLAD THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO

20:42:36 COME TO LIFE AGAIN.

20:42:39 I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS ONE OF THE CAR DEALERSHIPS.

20:42:41 >>TRUETT GARDNER: CORRECT.

20:42:43 I THINK MR. CITRO WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW LONG TIME COMING

20:42:48 IT IS.

20:42:48 JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE REHAB HOSPITAL WILL BE THE FIRST

20:42:50 PHASE OF THIS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY IN PERMITTING,

20:42:52 AND THEY ARE HOPING TO BREAK GROUND IN OCTOBER OR

20:42:56 NOVEMBER.

20:42:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.




20:42:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS 16 YEARS OLD WHEN I FIRST PASSED

20:43:02 IT.

20:43:02 >>TRUETT GARDNER: YOU KNOW, I STARTED TO MAKE A JOKE THAT

20:43:04 YOU PROBABLY BOUGHT YOUR FIRST CAR HERE, OR SOMETHING

20:43:07 ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT I SAVED IT.

20:43:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND NOW YOU GOT THE CONVALESCENT

20:43:12 CENTER.

20:43:12 YOU'VE GOT ME COVERED.

20:43:13 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THANK YOU.

20:43:15 YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

20:43:17 STAY SAFE.

20:43:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 13.

20:43:19 THIS IS THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.

20:43:59 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DAVID MECHANIK IS SIGNED IN.

20:44:01 HE JUST NEEDS TO TURN ON HIS CAMERA.

20:44:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MECHANIK, IF YOU COULD TURN ON

20:44:06 YOUR CAMERA SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AS

20:44:09 WELL.

20:44:10 I HEAR YOU, BUT I CAN'T SEE YOU.

20:44:17 >> DAVID MECHANIK: I THOUGHT I TURNED IT ON ALREADY.

20:44:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT COULD TURN ON IN A SECOND AND

20:44:25 APPEAR ON OUR SCREENS.

20:44:26 >>DAVID MECHANIK: IT'S UP.

20:44:28 I THINK IT'S UP.

20:44:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I STILL DON'T SEE YOU.




20:44:31 >>DAVID MECHANIK: OH, I HAVE TO CLICK ON IT.

20:44:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

20:44:35 THERE WE ARE.

20:44:36 WELCOME ABOARD.

20:44:39 WE NEED TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.

20:44:41 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SWEAR

20:44:43 OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND

20:44:46 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

20:44:49 >>> YES.

20:44:49 >> YES.

20:44:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER, MR. CHAIRMAN.

20:44:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

20:44:53 THIS NEXT PETITION ITEM NUMBER 13, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,

20:45:01 THE PETITIONER IS THE ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, OF WHICH

20:45:08 I'M A MEMBER.

20:45:12 SO, MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INQUIRE.

20:45:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO ABSTAIN ON

20:45:20 THIS ITEM BECAUSE OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP?

20:45:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY LEANING WOULD BE TO GO THERE JUST

20:45:26 BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A MEMBER FOR SEVEN YEARS OR SO.

20:45:30 I'M A BROKER.

20:45:32 I'M PART OF GTAR.

20:45:34 I'M NOT ON THE BOARD.

20:45:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU FEEL THAT WOULD AFFECT YOUR --

20:45:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MATTER OF APPEARANCES, I'D LEAN THAT




20:45:43 WAY, BUT I'LL TAKE YOUR ADVICE.

20:45:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IF THAT'S YOUR CASE, IF YOU FEEL

20:45:48 IT MAY CREATE THE APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST,

20:45:51 YOU CERTAINLY DO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO ABSTAIN ON THAT

20:45:53 BASIS.

20:45:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

20:45:57 THAT WOULD BE MY LEANING.

20:45:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, SIR.

20:46:02 YOU'LL HAVE TO STEP AWAY FROM THE HEARING AND WE'LL

20:46:05 CONTINUE THEN.

20:46:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL STEP AWAY FROM THE HEARING.

20:46:10 WHEN THE CLERK TAKES THE ROLL CALL, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE,

20:46:13 I'D ASK THE CLERK TO JUST MARK ME AS ABSTAINING FOR THAT

20:46:17 REASON.

20:46:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, BUT MR. DINGFELDER, THERE MAY BE

20:46:21 BUSINESS WE NEED TO TAKE UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING

20:46:23 THAT YOU MAY WANT TO COME BACK TO THE MEETING FOR.

20:46:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL BE LISTENING.

20:46:26 THANK YOU.

20:46:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:46:28 MARY, GO AHEAD.

20:46:29 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.

20:46:33 ITEM NUMBER 13, I THINK, REZ 20-61, IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY

20:46:37 LOCATED AT 2906 AND 2918 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD AS WELL

20:46:41 AS 109 SOUTH BUNGALOW PARK AVENUE.




20:46:45 IT'S A REZONING FROM RM-16 AND PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,

20:46:51 TO ALL CG USES EXCEPT HOSPITAL, ROOMING HOUSE, MEDICAL

20:46:54 MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AND MICROBREWERY.

20:46:57 I'LL DEFER TO JENNIFER MALONE FOR HER PRESENTATION.

20:47:01 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

20:47:03 MY SCREEN SHOULD BE COMING UP ANY MINUTE.

20:47:06 WE'RE SPECIFICALLY IN THE PALMA CEIA PINES NEIGHBORHOOD.

20:47:13 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT SITE IS TO THE WEST SERVED BY HART

20:47:17 ROUTE 20.

20:47:18 LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE.

20:47:23 IT IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD

20:47:25 BOUNDED BY SOUTH GOMEZ AVENUE WEST, CLEVELAND STREET AND

20:47:30 SOUTH BUNGALOW PARK AVENUE.

20:47:32 THE SURROUNDING AREA IS REALLY CHARACTERIZED BY THE VERY

20:47:36 INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG WEST KENNEDY

20:47:39 BOULEVARD AS WELL AS SOME RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THE SOUTH.

20:47:47 IT HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USES.

20:47:48 URBAN MIXED USE 60 WHICH IS THAT PURPLE COLOR THAT RUNS

20:47:52 ALONG WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE

20:47:54 SUBJECT SITE TRANSITIONS TO RESIDENTIAL 20.

20:47:58 THE SITE PLAN AND MARY CAN SPEAK ON THIS MORE BUT THE

20:48:01 SITE PLAN DOES SHOW A LINE DELINEATING THE FUTURE LAND

20:48:04 USES AND NONE OF THE COMMERCIAL USES WILL BE IN THIS

20:48:09 RESIDENTIAL 20 PORTION OF THE SITE.

20:48:12 THERE'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL 10 TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT




20:48:15 SITE.

20:48:16 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE

20:48:18 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:48:20 THIS IS ALLOWING FOR SOME SITE REDEVELOPMENT TO BE

20:48:26 APPROVED ON THE PD, AND MARY WILL SPEAK TO THAT MORE.

20:48:30 WE DID FIND THAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES AN

20:48:33 APPROPRIATE BUFFER AND SCREENING TO BUFFER THOSE

20:48:37 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES LOOKING ALONG SOUTH BUNGALOW PARK

20:48:39 AVENUE.

20:48:41 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID ASK THAT THE APPLICANT

20:48:46 PROVIDE SOME MORE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS AND CONNECTIVITY

20:48:54 INTERNAL TO THE SITE, INCLUDING BETTER SIDEWALK

20:48:56 INTEGRATION AND ANY OF THOSE CAN BE ADDRESSED IF THE

20:48:59 APPLICANT CHOOSES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

20:49:02 WE DID FIND IT CONSISTENT AND IT IS WITHIN THAT

20:49:04 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WE WOULD EXPECT ALONG WEST

20:49:06 KENNEDY BOULEVARD WITHIN THE URBAN MIXED USE 60 AS WELL

20:49:10 AS A TRANSIT CORRIDOR.

20:49:12 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

20:49:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:49:15 ANY QUESTIONS?

20:49:17 THANK YOU.

20:49:17 MARY, GO AHEAD.

20:49:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.

20:49:20 MARY SAMANIEGO.




20:49:21 PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

20:49:22 OKAY, HERE WE GO.

20:49:24 REZ 20-61 IS FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, LIKE I SAID.

20:49:29 THIS SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY REZONED BACK IN 2018.

20:49:32 IT WAS FILE NUMBER REZ 18-80 FOR A SIMILAR USE.

20:49:38 WHAT HAS OCCURRED IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS ACQUIRED

20:49:41 AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A

20:49:44 MINUTE.

20:49:45 THEREFORE, BECAUSE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LOT HAS

20:49:49 INCREASED, IT'S NECESSARY TO DO A NEW PD TO CAPTURE THAT

20:49:53 ADDITIONAL AREA WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT OF A PD.

20:49:56 SO THAT'S PRIMARILY WHY WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

20:50:00 THERE ARE TWO NEW ADDITIONAL WAIVERS.

20:50:04 BASED ON THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU

20:50:07 IN A MOMENT, IS 27284.4D TO PAY INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND

20:50:12 IF THE REQUIRED TREES CANNOT BE PLANTED ON THE SITE OR

20:50:20 ADJACENT TO THE SITE.

20:50:20 ALSO, THERE'S ONE CORRECTION.

20:50:20 SECTION 27283.12 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED DRIVE AISLE FROM

20:50:26 24 FEET TO 20 FEET ON THE FAR SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE

20:50:29 SITE.

20:50:30 THE STAFF REPORT SAYS "WESTERN," BUT IT SHOULD SAY

20:50:32 "SOUTHERN."

20:50:34 SO REMEMBER THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

20:50:39 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.




20:50:41 IT IS KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

20:50:45 THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SITE PLAN IS ACTUALLY NORTH,

20:50:49 SO THE SITE PLAN UP IS NOT NORTH, JUST FOR YOUR

20:50:52 REFERENCE.

20:50:52 HERE'S KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

20:50:54 HERE IS GOMEZ, CLEVELAND, AND BUNGALOW.

20:50:57 THIS AREA WHERE MY MOUSE IS KIND OF ROTATING RIGHT NOW,

20:51:01 USED TO BE I BELIEVE A DUPLEX THAT THE APPLICANT HAS

20:51:07 ACQUIRED AND SO NOW THEY HAVE ALMOST THE ENTIRE BLOCK.

20:51:13 IN THIS AREA THAT I'M POINTING TO NOW, FORGIVE ME, THE

20:51:19 EXISTING HOUSES WERE DEMOLISHED AND THE PARKING LOT WILL

20:51:23 CONTINUE.

20:51:24 AGAIN, I SAID THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ALL CG USES WITH

20:51:28 THE ELIMINATION OF HOSPITAL, ROOMING HOUSE, MEDICAL

20:51:32 MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AND MICROBREWERY.

20:51:35 THE MAIN OFFICE BUILDING FOR THE TAMPA -- THE GREATER

20:51:41 TAMPA ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS WILL REMAIN.

20:51:44 THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR A SLIGHT INCREASE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE

20:51:48 FOR AN ADDITION TO REPLACE AN EXISTING BUILDING.

20:51:52 HERE IS THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

20:51:55 THE TREE TABLE, AS I STATED IS PART OF THE SITE PLAN.

20:52:01 HERE IS THE AERIAL AND ZONING MAP OF THE SUBJECT

20:52:07 PROPERTY.

20:52:08 WHERE MY MOUSE IS RIGHT HERE, THE RED IS THE SUBJECT

20:52:11 SITE.




20:52:11 THIS YELLOW PIECE IS THE NEWLY ACQUIRED PIECE THAT THEY

20:52:14 ARE EXPANDING THE PARKING LOT INTO.

20:52:17 AS I KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS

20:52:20 PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL, RETAIL OFFICE USES AND THEN IT GOES

20:52:24 BACK TO THE SOUTH INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS

20:52:28 TRANSITIONED OVER TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND THE RM-18

20:52:32 ZONING DISTRICT PRIMARILY WITH APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES.

20:52:38 AS FAR AS CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS, THE

20:52:41 WAIVERS NEED TO BE CORRECTED, AS I STATED.

20:52:44 TRANSPORTATION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT.

20:52:48 AGAIN, THE SOUTHERN PORTION, THE DRIVE AISLE REQUIREMENT

20:52:51 IS 24 FEET.

20:52:53 THEY ARE PROPOSING ONLY A 20-FOOT DRIVE AISLE SO THAT

20:52:56 REQUIRES A WAIVER.

20:52:58 TRANSPORTATION DID FIND THAT INCONSISTENT.

20:53:00 NATURAL RESOURCES DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH SOME

20:53:04 MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

20:53:07 I WILL ELIMINATE ONE ITEM FROM THE REVISION SHEET

20:53:13 REFERENCING COMPLIANCE, 27-149.

20:53:16 THAT COMPLIANCE FOR THE HAZARDOUS TREE IS NO LONGER

20:53:19 REQUIRED.

20:53:21 AND OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID

20:53:27 FIND THIS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE INCONSISTENT

20:53:29 FINDING FROM TRANSPORTATION WITH THE ONE DRIVE AISLE

20:53:34 WIDTH REDUCTION.




20:53:35 SAYING THAT, THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION.

20:53:38 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

20:53:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:53:41 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

20:53:43 I HEAR NONE.

20:53:47 APPLICANT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.

20:53:49 MR. MECHANIK.

20:53:50 >>DAVID MECHANIK: GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL

20:53:54 MEMBERS, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?

20:53:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, MS. WELLS, DID

20:54:00 HE CONSENT TO THE STATEMENT THAT YOU'VE ASKED EVERY

20:54:04 APPLICANT OR NO?

20:54:06 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I CONCUR.

20:54:07 I WAIVE THE 180-DAY REQUIREMENT TO BRING A CASE BEFORE

20:54:13 CITY COUNCIL.

20:54:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

20:54:14 GO AHEAD, SIR.

20:54:15 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU.

20:54:16 AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

20:54:21 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GREATER TAMPA BOARD OF

20:54:25 REALTORS.

20:54:26 I HAVE WITH ME, ALTHOUGH NOT REGISTERED, JACK RODRIGUEZ,

20:54:30 WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BUILDING COMMITTEE OF THE

20:54:35 BOARD OF REALTORS.

20:54:36 I ALSO HAVE MR. RANDY COEN, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS




20:54:41 CONCERNING THE SITE PLAN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS PRETTY

20:54:47 STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT JUST IN CASE, AS MARY DID A VERY

20:54:56 THOROUGH JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO,

20:54:59 WE ARE SIMPLY ADDING A VERY SMALL LOT INTO THE SITE IN

20:55:05 ORDER TO ACHIEVE MORE PARKING.

20:55:08 WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A FUTURE

20:55:13 EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS IN THE AMOUNT OF 2400

20:55:18 SQUARE FEET.

20:55:19 SO IT'S A PRETTY NOMINAL INCREASE.

20:55:24 I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE WAIVERS AS PART

20:55:31 OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE PRESENT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR

20:55:35 THE WAIVERS.

20:55:37 AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REPORT

20:55:42 HAS ON THE FRONT SHEET THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT,

20:55:47 BUT THERE ARE TEN DEPARTMENTS, IF YOU LOOK IN THE BACK OF

20:55:50 THE REPORT, THERE ARE TEN DEPARTMENTS, NINE OF WHICH

20:55:56 FOUND THE APPLICATION CONSISTENT.

20:56:00 ONE, TRANSPORTATION DID NOT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE

20:56:03 REDUCTION OF THE DRIVE AISLE WIDTH FROM 24 TO 20 FEET.

20:56:12 AND WE PROPOSE THAT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE EXISTING TREES

20:56:17 ON THE SITE.

20:56:19 SO I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS THE NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION

20:56:24 THAT IT RECEIVED.

20:56:26 AGAIN, WE DID THAT TO PRESERVE EXISTING TREES.

20:56:31 THE OTHER WAIVERS ARE TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ON




20:56:37 LOCAL STREET, BOTH GOMEZ AND BUNGALOW ARE RESIDENTIAL

20:56:45 STREETS.

20:56:46 HOWEVER, THESE ACCESSES WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY IN 1974

20:56:51 WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT, AND SO THIS WAIVER JUST

20:56:56 REFLECTS THE EXISTING CONDITION.

20:57:00 ANOTHER WAIVER THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED IS TO REDUCE THE

20:57:04 VEHICLE USE AREA BUFFER ALONG CLEVELAND STREET, AND THAT

20:57:09 AGAIN IS TO PRESERVE EXISTING TREES.

20:57:13 FINALLY, THE LAST WAIVER IS TO ALLOW US TO PLANT -- I'M

20:57:20 SORRY, TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY'S TREE BANK IN THE EVENT

20:57:26 THAT THERE IS NOT ROOM ON-SITE OR ADJACENT TO THE SITE TO

20:57:31 PLANT REPLACEMENT TREES.

20:57:35 WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

20:57:38 COUNCIL HAS, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

20:57:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

20:57:49 ANY QUESTIONS?

20:57:52 DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE CONVENTION

20:57:55 CENTER, ANY WRITTEN DOCUMENTS, ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE

20:57:57 RECEIVED AND FILED?

20:57:58 CONVENTION CENTER, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

20:58:04 >> I'M FROM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS NO ONE

20:58:06 HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

20:58:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:58:09 CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY WRITTEN DOCUMENTS, ANYTHING THAT

20:58:11 NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THE RECORD?




20:58:12 >>THE CLERK: NO, THE CLERK OFFICE HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY

20:58:15 WRITTEN COMMENTS OR ANY REGISTERED APPLICANT OR CITIZEN

20:58:19 TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

20:58:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

20:58:23 ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

20:58:25 ANYTHING AT ALL?

20:58:28 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

20:58:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

20:58:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN

20:58:33 MIRANDA.

20:58:34 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

20:58:36 ANY OBJECTION?

20:58:37 HEARING NONE, WE HAVE NOW CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

20:58:42 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER

20:58:45 13?

20:58:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:58:50 FILE NUMBER REZ 20-61, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

20:58:58 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE

20:59:01 GENERAL VICINITY OF 2906 AND 2918 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD

20:59:06 AND -- I APOLOGIZE -- AND 109 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM

20:59:16 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL,

20:59:20 MULTIFAMILY) AND PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT) TO PD (PLANNED

20:59:25 DEVELOPMENT AND CG USES EXCEPT HOSPITAL, ROOMING HOUSE,

20:59:30 MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AND MICROBREWERY); PROVIDING

20:59:36 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.




20:59:38 AND THE PETITIONER -- EXCUSE ME, HAS MET THE BURDEN OF

20:59:41 PROOF THROUGH THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

20:59:45 PRESENTED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS CONDITIONED AND SHOWN

20:59:50 ON THE SITE PLANS.

20:59:52 IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE GOALS,

20:59:55 OBJECTIVES, AND POLICY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT

20:59:59 WILL GO ALONG WITH ALL WAIVERS AND REVISIONS BETWEEN

21:00:02 FIRST AND SECOND READING.

21:00:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?

21:00:09 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:00:11 ANY DISCUSSION?

21:00:12 HEARING NONE, ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

21:00:15 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

21:00:19 >> MS. SAMANIEGO I THINK NEEDS TO SPEAK, MR. CHAIR.

21:00:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARY, GO AHEAD.

21:00:23 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'M SO SORRY.

21:00:25 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MOTION CAPTURES THE

21:00:28 CORRECTION TO THE WAIVER TO REPLACE THE WORD WESTERN WITH

21:00:31 SOUTHERN, AND TO CORRECT THE REVISION SHEET TO ELIMINATE

21:00:35 THE REVISION PER SECTION 27-149.

21:00:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES YOUR MOTION INCLUDE THAT, SIR?

21:00:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, IT DOES, MR. CHAIR.

21:00:44 AND I ALSO -- I OMITTED A PART OF IT.

21:00:47 I READ OUT THE LOCATION ON WEST KENNEDY, AND I DID NOT

21:00:53 INCLUDE THE 109 SOUTH BUNGALOW PARK AVENUE IN THE CITY OF




21:00:57 TAMPA, FLORIDA.

21:00:59 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

21:01:00 THANK YOU, MS. SAMANIEGO.

21:01:03 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.

21:01:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:01:05 ROLL-CALL VOTE.

21:01:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

21:01:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

21:01:11 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?

21:01:12 MANISCALCO?

21:01:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

21:01:16 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?

21:01:17 CITRO?

21:01:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

21:01:23 >>THE CLERK: AND MIRANDA.

21:01:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA IS MUTED.

21:01:26 UNMUTE YOURSELF.

21:01:27 MIRANDA, YOU ARE STILL MUTED.

21:01:31 HE'S HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE MUTE BUTTON.

21:01:40 HIS CAMERA IS OFF.

21:01:57 THE CAMERA WON'T COME ON.

21:02:06 IT'S STUCK.

21:02:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOLD ON, MR. CHAIR.

21:02:11 I'LL RUN DOWN THE HALL.

21:02:24 >> MR. CHAIR, ARE YOU IN YOUR OFFICE?




21:02:31 >> HUNTER'S GREEN IS EIGHT HOURS AWAY FROM CITY HALL.

21:02:35 >> I'M HERE AT THE VILLAGE INN.

21:02:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

21:02:42 MIRANDA IS BACK ON.

21:02:49 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?

21:02:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU HEAR THAT?

21:03:09 >>THE CLERK: I DIDN'T HEAR.

21:03:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA SAID YES TWO TIMES.

21:03:13 >> THE CLERK IS GOING TO TELL YOU SHE DIDN'T HEAR IT.

21:03:22 [AUDIO INTERFERENCE]

21:03:23 >>THE CLERK: YES, OKAY.

21:03:28 THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSTAINING, CARLSON

21:03:33 ABSENT AT VOTE -- [GARBLED AUDIO]

21:03:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:03:43 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

21:03:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN, MADAM

21:03:48 CLERK?

21:03:49 IT WAS VERY GARBLED.

21:03:50 SECOND READING DATE AND TIME.

21:03:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSTAINING,

21:03:55 CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

21:03:56 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD SEPTEMBER 24th

21:03:59 AT 6 P.M.

21:04:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

21:04:02 >>THE CLERK: YOU'RE WELCOME.




21:04:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:04:05 MY FRIENDS, THIS CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

21:04:10 WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

21:04:13 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

21:04:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.

21:04:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:04:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU HAVE

21:04:18 ANYTHING?

21:04:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING THIS EVENING, MR. CHAIR.

21:04:21 THANK YOU.

21:04:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE

21:04:24 ANYTHING?

21:04:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOTHING TONIGHT, THANK YOU MR.

21:04:26 CHAIRMAN.

21:04:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?

21:04:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.

21:04:31 I'D LIKE A MOTION FOR THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO BRING

21:04:33 BACK A REPORT IN REFERENCE TO THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE

21:04:37 BETWEEN NEBRASKA AND 50th STREET ON HILLSBOROUGH

21:04:41 AVENUE.

21:04:42 GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IN REFERENCE TO THE WORK,

21:04:45 WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

21:04:47 PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEIR VEHICLES ARE BEING DAMAGED AND SO

21:04:49 FORTH AND SO ON.

21:04:50 I KNOW IT'S NOT A CITY ROAD.




21:04:52 IT IS A STATE ROAD.

21:04:55 D.O.T. GET SOME REPORT BACK TO US AS IT RELATES TO THE

21:04:58 ROAD WORK BEING DONE OUT THERE.

21:05:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT, SIR?

21:05:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A QUICK REPORT.

21:05:06 IF WE CAN GET IT ON SEPTEMBER 3rd.

21:05:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S SEE HERE.

21:05:12 YOU SAID SEPTEMBER 3rd?

21:05:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH.

21:05:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

21:05:19 CATE WELLS, GO AHEAD.

21:05:20 >>CATE WELLS: ANYTIME COUNCIL REQUESTS MOTIONS, WE HAVE

21:05:26 INTERNAL DEADLINES FOR PREPARING A REPORT AND REVIEWED BY

21:05:29 THE CHIEF OF STAFF.

21:05:30 I THINK SEPTEMBER 3rd MIGHT BE A QUICK TURNAROUND TIME.

21:05:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT SEPTEMBER 17th?

21:05:34 WOULD THAT WORK, MS. WELLS?

21:05:37 >>CATE WELLS: YES, THANK YOU.

21:05:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 17, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

21:05:40 DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION?

21:05:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MIRANDA.

21:05:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:05:44 ANY OBJECTION?

21:05:49 ALL RIGHT, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE'LL APPROVE THE

21:05:53 MOTION.




21:05:54 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

21:05:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT.

21:05:56 THANK YOU.

21:05:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA?

21:05:58 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING, SIR.

21:05:59 THANK YOU.

21:05:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU HAVE

21:06:02 ANYTHING?

21:06:05 ALL RIGHT.

21:06:06 I HAVE ONE MOTION HERE.

21:06:08 I'LL HAND THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMAN CITRO.

21:06:10 THIS IS WHAT I BROUGHT UP THIS MORNING, AND I APOLOGIZE

21:06:15 IF ANYONE FELT BLINDSIDED OR WHATEVER, IF ANYONE HAD FELT

21:06:21 ANY DISRESPECT, IT WAS CERTAINLY NOT THE INTENTION AT

21:06:24 ALL.

21:06:25 THIS MOTION, I'LL READ IT, WHICH WAS SENT OUT BY E-MAIL

21:06:29 TO BALANCE THE SCHEDULE AND THE NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS AT

21:06:32 ANY ONE MEETING AND OFFER A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION OF

21:06:35 RELATED ITEMS AT ONE WORKSHOP, I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE

21:06:39 FOLLOWING RELATED MOTION TOPICS BE PLACED ON A WORKSHOP

21:06:42 AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 22nd.

21:06:46 NUMBER 1 IS DISCUSSION OF THE CITY'S BONUS DENSITY

21:06:49 PROVISIONS WHICH ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST

21:06:52 27th WORKSHOP.

21:06:53 THESE WOULD BE POSTPONED UNTIL OCTOBER 22nd.




21:06:56 SECOND IS DISCUSSION OF PLANNING MATTERS RELATED TO DAVIS

21:07:00 ISLANDS AND THE WESTSHORE PALMS NEIGHBORHOOD.

21:07:03 THESE AGAIN ARE ALSO AUGUST 27 WORKSHOP, THIS WOULD MOVE

21:07:06 THIS TO OCTOBER 22.

21:07:08 AND POSSIBLE CODE CHANGES TO ALLOW FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE

21:07:11 PROCESS TO APPROVE DEVELOPMENT OF LOTS WITHIN 5% OF

21:07:15 ZONING CODE DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA.

21:07:17 THIS IS ALSO AUGUST 27th WORKSHOP TO MOVE TO OCTOBER

21:07:21 22.

21:07:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I INTERRUPT THERE?

21:07:26 I APOLOGIZE.

21:07:27 FORGIVE ME.

21:07:28 I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, THERE'S ALSO A SECOND

21:07:32 PARAGRAPH IN THERE THAT WAS -- THAT I DID RECEIVE.

21:07:35 AND I WANT TO THANK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

21:07:38 I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THEM, AND I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK

21:07:40 WITH MR. CARLSON WITH REGARD TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT

21:07:44 ISSUE.

21:07:45 THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

21:07:46 THAT CAN BE PRESENTLY SET AND KEPT ON OCTOBER 22nd.

21:07:51 IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY POSE A PROBLEM LEGALLY.

21:07:54 AS FAR AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS CONCERNED, HE IS NOT HERE

21:07:58 TONIGHT TO COMMENT, BUT MY SENSE WAS THAT IF HE DID WANT

21:08:00 TO ADDRESS IT AT ALL, KEEP IT ON OCTOBER 22.

21:08:05 HE COULD BRING IT UP NEXT WEEK OR A FUTURE COUNCIL




21:08:08 MEETING IF HE WANTS TO ASK FOR A SPECIAL CALL.

21:08:12 THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED TONIGHT.

21:08:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT, IF THERE IS

21:08:16 A SECOND TO THE MOTION.

21:08:18 >> SECOND.

21:08:18 >> SECOND.

21:08:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN

21:08:22 MANISCALCO.

21:08:22 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

21:08:24 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:08:27 OKAY.

21:08:29 MOTION PASSES WITH --

21:08:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

21:08:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

21:08:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:08:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:08:39 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

21:08:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAND YOU THE GAVEL.

21:08:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM

21:08:44 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:08:45 SECOND?

21:08:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

21:08:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

21:08:50 ANY OBJECTION?

21:08:52 HEARING NONE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.




21:08:55 GOOD NIGHT.



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