TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING
THURSDAY, AUGUST 27, 2020
9:00 A.M.
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08:35:45
09:00:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:00:45 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
09:00:48 MEETING TO ORDER.
09:00:49 IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:00:55 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:00:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:00:58 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:00:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:01:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:01:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:01:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:01:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:01:11 I DON'T HAVE ANYONE TODAY OR THIS WEEK FOR THE INVOCATION,
09:01:14 SO WE'LL GO INTO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:01:17 IF YOU'RE ABLE TO STAND, PLEASE DO.
09:01:21 I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
09:01:24 AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION
09:01:27 UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
09:01:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:01:34 MR. SHELBY.
09:01:35 MR. SHELBY.
09:01:41 IS MR. SHELBY ON THE LINE?
09:01:49 >>THE CLERK: YES, HE WAS ON THE LINE.
09:01:52 WE LOST HIM.
09:01:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GIVE HIM A SECOND SO HE CAN SPEAK.
09:01:59 MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU ON?
09:02:06 ALL RIGHT.
09:02:13 WELL, HE GENERALLY READS A STATEMENT BEFORE WE GO INTO
09:02:16 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:02:17 JUST TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER MINUTE HERE, MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY
09:02:21 PEOPLE DO WE HAVE --
09:02:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING.
09:02:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE HE IS.
09:02:25 GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY.
09:02:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
09:02:27 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:02:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
09:02:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL HAVE TO RECONNECT.
09:02:32 I DON'T HAVE ANY AUDIO.
09:02:33 BUT IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
09:02:35 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:02:36 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:02:39 THIS VIRTUAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING
09:02:41 HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS --
09:02:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WE LOST MR. SHELBY AGAIN.
09:02:52 JUST TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER MINUTE TO CONNECT HERE.
09:02:56 MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:03:00 >>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIR.
09:03:01 WE HAVE EIGHT THAT REGISTERED TO SPEAK, AND WE HAVE SIX
09:03:06 RECORDINGS TO BE PLAYED.
09:03:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:03:10 MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU BACK ON?
09:03:12 HE'S GOING TO LOG ON.
09:03:31 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, HE ASKED TO BE SKIPPED BECAUSE HE HAS TO
09:03:34 SIGN BACK IN.
09:03:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU'D
09:03:40 LIKE TO BEGIN.
09:03:41 I'LL KEEP TIME.
09:03:42 THREE MINUTES PER EACH SPEAKER.
09:03:44 AGAIN, I HAVE A TIMER, AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH
09:03:47 THE FIRST SPEAKER.
09:03:48 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:03:49 THE FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE IS ROZELL COFFIE.
09:03:55 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.
09:03:58 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:04:00 >> HI.
09:04:01 MY NAME IS ROZELL COFFIE.
09:04:04 I'M NOT THAT CLEAR OF MIND RIGHT NOW IN LIEU OF EVERYTHING
09:04:09 THAT'S GOING ON IN AMERICA.
09:04:12 THERE'S NOT MUCH TO SAY, AND I THINK ALL OF OUR WORK SPEAKS
09:04:18 CLEARLY FOR WHAT MIND-SET WE'RE IN GOING FORWARD.
09:04:21 AS FAR AS STAFF REPORT THREE GOES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHEN
09:04:25 REVIEWING THE POLICIES, IN THE LAST YEAR, DO YOU BELIEVE
09:04:32 THAT TPD HAS VIOLATED ANY OF THOSE POLICIES, LET ALONE THE
09:04:36 LAST FOUR MONTHS?
09:04:38 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
09:04:40 AND I YIELD MY TIME.
09:04:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:44 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:04:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT CONTINUES, ITEM
09:04:51 NUMBER 3 IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
09:04:54 THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THAT ITEM WHEN WE GET TO IT,
09:04:57 TO SEPTEMBER 24.
09:04:58 WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THIS TODAY, IN CASE FOLKS HAVE NOT
09:05:02 BEEN ABLE TO REGISTER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WHAT NOT.
09:05:05 THAT WILL BE CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 24.
09:05:08 WE'LL GET THAT MOTION DONE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:05:11 I BELIEVE MR. SHELBY IS BACK ON.
09:05:13 MR. SHELBY, DID YOU WANT TO READ YOUR STATEMENT?
09:05:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SURE.
09:05:16 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:05:17 MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT TECHNICAL ISSUE.
09:05:21 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
09:05:22 MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:05:24 THIS VIRTUAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING
09:05:27 HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS OF
09:05:30 THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS 20-69 AND 20-193 AS THEY MAY
09:05:36 BE FURTHER EXTENDED AND THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS
09:05:39 ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
09:05:43 IT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY AUDIO TELECONFERENCING ONLY WITH
09:05:47 VIDEO PRESENTATIONS.
09:05:49 REMOTE PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF
09:05:51 FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA
09:05:55 TECHNOLOGY.
09:05:56 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,
09:06:00 LISTEN, AND VIEW THE SLIDES ON CABLE TV AND THE INTERNET AND
09:06:05 WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL
09:06:11 AND LIVE AND PRERECORDED PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE HEARD AT THE
09:06:15 START OF THE VIRTUAL MEETING PER COUNCIL'S MOTION.
09:06:19 I UNDERSTAND, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT THERE'S PRESENTLY NO ONE AT
09:06:22 THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:06:26 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:06:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:06:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
09:06:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:06:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
09:06:34 I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC.
09:06:37 I KNOW THE FINAL AGENDA CAME OUT A LITTLE BIT LATE.
09:06:41 SO SOME MAY BE CONFUSED WITH THE DRAFT AGENDA WHERE NUMBER 2
09:06:44 WAS SWITCHED TO NUMBER THREE NOW AND VICE VERSA.
09:06:48 I BELIEVE FILE EZ 2020-8 CH IS NOW ITEM NUMBER THREE VERSUS
09:06:55 FILE 2020-8 -- I THINK THOSE WERE SWITCHED AROUND.
09:07:01 I'M LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT AGENDAS HERE AND LOOKING AT THE
09:07:03 DIFFERENCE.
09:07:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE DIVERSITY NUMBERS.
09:07:07 I UNDERSTAND.
09:07:07 ALL RIGHT.
09:07:08 VERY GOOD.
09:07:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
09:07:14 IF I MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, IN CASE THERE ARE PEOPLE
09:07:16 TUNING IN LATE, WHEN THERE ARE MOTIONS RELATED TO SPECIFIC
09:07:19 ITEM NUMBERS, IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHAT THE ITEM IS, THAT
09:07:23 WILL CLARIFY IT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING BY AUDIO
09:07:25 ONLY.
09:07:26 SO THANK YOU.
09:07:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:30 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:07:32 >>THE CLERK: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
09:07:33 THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS RACHEL HOWELL.
09:07:35 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.
09:07:39 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:07:40 >> HELLO.
09:07:40 GOOD MORNING.
09:07:41 MY NAME IS RACHEL HOWELL.
09:07:44 MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE SAME TOPIC AS ROZELL
09:07:48 COFFIE, BUT WITH THE NEWS THAT YOU WON'T BE DISCUSSING IT
09:07:51 TODAY AND YOU'LL BE DISCUSSING IT SEPTEMBER 23rd.
09:07:54 I WILL HOLD MY MORE EXTENDED COMMENTS UNTIL THEN.
09:07:57 BUT I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT ROZELL WAS SAYING AND TO JUST
09:08:04 THINK TO YOURSELVES IF TAMPA PD HAS UPHELD THESE POLICIES
09:08:07 WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
09:08:09 THANK YOU.
09:08:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:08:10 THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:08:14 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS MATTHEW YAMPOLSKY.
09:08:21 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.
09:08:23 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:08:23 >> YEAH, HI, MY NAME IS MATTHEW YAMPOLSKY.
09:08:29 IT'S CLEAR THAT SOME POLICIES -- [INAUDIBLE] -- FOR THE
09:08:33 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:08:36 THEY HAVE MADE THAT EVIDENCE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
09:08:39 THE WHOLE 8 CAN'T WAIT THING, THEY CAN'T DO MOST OF THOSE
09:08:45 SIMPLE TASKS.
09:08:46 THEY HAVE BEEN USING CHEMICAL WARFARE.
09:08:51 THEY HAVE BEEN USING RIOT GEAR.
09:08:53 IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN FOLLOW THOSE SIMPLE RULES.
09:08:57 I THINK THIS IS JUST A FARCE, HONESTLY.
09:09:00 I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DEFUND AND
09:09:05 ABOLISH AND RESTART THIS WHOLE SYSTEM.
09:09:07 IT'S CLEAR WE NEED TO FREEZE THE TPD'S BUDGET, REALLOCATE
09:09:12 FUNDS TO SOCIAL SAFETY NET PROGRAMS.
09:09:16 AND AS FAR AS DIVERSITY IS CONCERNED, WE DEFINITELY DON'T
09:09:22 NEED JUST MORE COPS OF COLOR.
09:09:25 THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SOLUTION HERE.
09:09:28 I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUS.
09:09:30 I SPOKE TO COUNCILMAN CITRO'S AIDE YESTERDAY FOR AROUND TEN
09:09:38 MINUTES, AND HE TOLD ME THAT IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN,
09:09:43 THAT WE NEED NEW SAFE SQUAD CARS.
09:09:46 THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN.
09:09:48 WE NEED TO INFLATE THE BUDGET FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
09:09:51 THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:09:53 HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT THE HOMELESS CRISIS -- THE HOMELESSNESS
09:09:59 PANDEMIC THAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN TAMPA FOR YEARS IS A COUNTY
09:10:02 PROBLEM AND THAT THE CITY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
09:10:05 AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO TAKE ANY SORT OF ASSERTIVE MEASURES
09:10:09 TO HELP THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IN TAMPA.
09:10:11 SO IT'S CLEAR THAT THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY DO NOT LINE UP
09:10:21 WITH THE PRIORITIES OF THE PUBLIC.
09:10:25 SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
09:10:31 YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S IT.
09:10:33 YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRRORS AND ASK
09:10:36 YOURSELVES, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A CONSCIENCE, LIKE, SERIOUSLY.
09:10:41 LIKE IT'S SO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS AND BLATANT HOW BIASED THE
09:10:47 CITY HAS BECOME.
09:10:50 AND YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LIKE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS,
09:10:53 YOU KNOW.
09:10:53 I REALLY HOPE ON A PERSONAL NOTE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I KNOW
09:10:57 YOU'RE NOT ON VIDEO THIS TIME, BUT I REALLY HOPE YOU'RE
09:11:01 TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO
09:11:04 READING LIKE A COUPON MAILER LIKE WE ALL SAW YOU DO AT THE
09:11:08 LAST MEETING.
09:11:09 I HOPE YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AS
09:11:12 OPPOSED TO BLOWING THEM OFF.
09:11:17 THAT WAS A REALLY DISRESPECTFUL THING YOU DID AT THE LAST
09:11:20 MEETING, MR. MIRANDA.
09:11:21 I HOPE YOU CAN ADDRESS THE PUBLIC REGARDING THAT --
09:11:25 [INAUDIBLE]
09:11:25 IT WAS A REAL SPIT-IN-THE-FACE KIND OF MOVE.
09:11:29 I HOPE YOU CAN TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
09:11:32 THERE ARE PICTURES OF YOU ALL OVER THE INTERNET READING A
09:11:36 COUPON BOOK WHILE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS GOING ON REGARDING THE
09:11:40 BUDGET OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:11:41 SO IT'S CLEAR YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS --
09:11:45 CLEAR.
09:11:46 I YIELD MY TIME.
09:11:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:11:50 THANK YOU.
09:11:51 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:11:52 >>THE CLERK: YES, SIR.
09:11:53 THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS JORDANA YAMPOLSKY.
09:11:59 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:12:00 >> YES, HELLO.
09:12:01 I CALLED YOU GUYS REGARDING TAMPA'S USE OF FORCE POLICY
09:12:04 WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:12:05 IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT POLICIES ARE IN
09:12:07 PLACE, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS NO INTENTION OF
09:12:10 FOLLOWING THEM.
09:12:11 THE CURRENT TPD POLICY ON USING OLEORESIN CAPSAICIN SPRAY
09:12:15 EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS ITS USE AS A MEANS OF CROWD DISPERSAL
09:12:20 OR TO CONTROL CROWDS.
09:12:22 WE'VE SEEN THEM USE IT AS SO.
09:12:24 USE OF FORCE BY TPD IS UP 25% SINCE 2017 AND THAT FACTOR
09:12:29 EXCLUDES THE USE OF CHEMICAL SPRAYS.
09:12:32 WHEN YOU INCLUDE THAT, IT HAS A 200% INCREASE FROM 2017.
09:12:35 THERE HAVE BEEN DECADES OF RESEARCH TO PROVE THAT AN
09:12:39 INCREASE IN AGGRESSIVE POLICING ONLY INFLATES CONFLICT.
09:12:42 WE SEE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY EVERY TIME THE POLICE COME OUT.
09:12:45 EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE PROCEDURES AND POLICIES IN PLACE, THEY
09:12:48 HAVE PROVEN NOT TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THEM WHEN THEY ARE
09:12:51 USING CHEMICAL SPRAYS ON UNARMED AND NON-DANGEROUS
09:12:55 PROTESTORS AS A MEANS OF CROWD DISPERSAL.
09:12:57 TAMPAGOV.NET STATES THAT IN REGARDS TO THE 8 CAN'T WAIT
09:13:01 INITIATIVE -- AND I QUOTE -- THE EIGHT PROPOSED POLICIES
09:13:03 HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT FOR YEARS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:13:06 A REPORT BY 10 TAMPA BAY, PUBLISHED ON AUGUST 14 OF THIS
09:13:10 YEAR, STATES THAT A SPOKESPERSON FOR 8 CAN'T WAIT CLAIMS
09:13:13 THAT TPD STILL ONLY MEETS FIVE OF THE EIGHT RECOMMENDED
09:13:18 POLICIES.
09:13:18 TIME AND TIME AGAIN THEY PROVE THEIR INCOMPETENCE BY
09:13:21 REFUSING TO FOLLOW BASIC, NON-DEBATABLE POLICIES LIKE 8
09:13:25 CAN'T WAIT.
09:13:27 LIKE WITH THE UNPROVOKED MURDER OF JONAS JOSEPH BY TPD WHEN
09:13:29 THEY SHOT HIM 62 TIMES OUT OF 120 ROUNDS INTO HIS VEHICLE.
09:13:33 8 CAN'T WAIT WASN'T A CONCESSION, AND IT -- IT WAS SUPPOSED
09:13:37 TO BE AN IMMEDIATE INITIATIVE AND JANE CASTOR AND BRIAN
09:13:41 DUGAN HAVE FAILED COMPLETELY.
09:13:44 IN REGARDS TO WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT DIVERSITY IN OUR
09:13:47 DEPARTMENT, HIRING MORE BLACK COPS WON'T STOP COPS FROM
09:13:51 SHOOTING BLACK PEOPLE.
09:13:52 BECAUSE OF THE INHERENTLY RACIST SYSTEM THAT IS POLICING, WE
09:13:52 WILL NEVER STOP THE MURDER OF BLACK PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE
09:13:55 OF COLOR BY POLICE UNTIL WE ABOLISH THE POLICE.
09:13:58 THANK YOU.
09:13:58 I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.
09:14:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:14:01 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:14:03 >>THE CLERK: YES, THANK YOU.
09:14:04 THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS BROOKE BONSACK.
09:14:07 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.
09:14:09 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:14:11 >> HI, COUNCILMEN.
09:14:13 THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH US TODAY.
09:14:15 I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE USE OF FORCE POLICY.
09:14:18 JUST A LITTLE ANECDOTE ABOUT SOME OF THE WAYS THAT TPD HAS
09:14:23 NOT BEEN FOLLOWING IT.
09:14:25 I WAS ONE OF THE PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF MAYBE THOUSANDS OF
09:14:29 PROTESTORS THEY PEPPER SPRAYED AS A USE OF DISPERSAL,
09:14:33 WHEREAS THEY ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO USE IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE
09:14:38 BASIS AS THEY ARE MAKING ARREST AND SOMEBODY IS BEING
09:14:41 RESISTANT.
09:14:42 THAT WAY THEY CAN ACTUALLY MONITOR THE PERSON'S HEALTH, MAKE
09:14:44 SURE THEY ARE NOT HAVING A BAD REACTION BECAUSE THESE ARE
09:14:47 DANGEROUS CHEMICALS.
09:14:50 IN ADDITION, I WAS ONE OF THE 67 PEOPLE WHO WERE ARRESTED ON
09:14:54 JUNE 2nd WHEN WE WERE SIMPLY WALKING AROUND DOWNTOWN.
09:14:59 ADMITTEDLY IN THE STREET BUT THAT WAS IT.
09:15:02 CHIEF DUGAN SAID WE LIED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING AND ALL
09:15:05 THAT, BUT IT WAS A VERY, VERY PEACEFUL PROTEST.
09:15:09 AND FOR THAT, I WAS -- THEY SURROUNDED US.
09:15:13 THEY TEAR GASSED US.
09:15:14 THEY SHOT AT US AND THEN I WAS ARRESTED.
09:15:17 OH, AND, BY THE WAY, THEY REMOVED ALL OF OUR MASKS AND TOOK
09:15:22 US TO A CROWDED JAIL AND CROWDED PADDY WAGONS AND I
09:15:26 CONTRACTED COVID.
09:15:28 I CAN'T PROVE I GOT IT FROM THAT INCIDENT, BUT THEY DID
09:15:30 REMOVE MY MASK AND I WAS CERTAINLY NOT SOCIAL DISTANCING.
09:15:35 SO I WOULD LIKE ANY POLICIES THAT BE PUT IN PLACE TODAY OR
09:15:40 REVIEWED TODAY, AT ALL POSSIBLE PLEASE HAVE AN EYE FOR ANY
09:15:46 KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED TO ACTUALLY
09:15:50 GIVE THESE POLICIES SOME TEETH BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT
09:15:53 GOING TO FOLLOW THEM, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.
09:15:55 THANK YOU.
09:15:55 I YIELD MY TIME.
09:15:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:57 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:16:00 >>THE CLERK: YES, THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS JUSTIN COFFIE.
09:16:05 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.
09:16:07 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:16:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
09:16:09 >> HELLO.
09:16:10 CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?
09:16:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
09:16:14 >> PERFECT.
09:16:15 MR. CHAIRMAN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR
09:16:17 RECOGNIZING THE PEOPLE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS MOST
09:16:20 IMPORTANT TOPIC.
09:16:23 LIKE OTHERS BEFORE ME, I DO NOT HAVE MUCH TO SAY, AND I'LL
09:16:26 GET STRAIGHT TO IT.
09:16:27 I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY -- I MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 3
09:16:32 TO BE MOVED FORWARD TO AN EARLIER DATE IF POSSIBLE.
09:16:36 I BELIEVE THAT SEPTEMBER 24 IS TOO -- TOO FAR AWAY FOR THE
09:16:43 AMOUNT OF URGENCY THAT THIS TOPIC IS DEMANDING.
09:16:48 WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON YESTERDAY.
09:16:51 WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF ATHLETES STAND IN SOLIDARITY TO SHOW
09:16:54 THAT THERE IS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN ADDRESSING
09:16:58 INJUSTICE IMMEDIATELY.
09:17:00 THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT WE CAN TALK ABOUT OR DO.
09:17:03 AND I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
09:17:05 I THINK IT IS VERY MOVING.
09:17:06 AND THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES.
09:17:09 I THINK THAT WE CAN SKIP A LOT OF THE PROCEDURAL THINGS AND
09:17:13 FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
09:17:16 I MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 3 TO BE MORE SPECIFIC BECAUSE I KNOW
09:17:20 THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ON THE ITEM NUMBERS.
09:17:22 IT IS THE ITEM WHICH CONCERNS THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE
09:17:25 OBAMA 21st CENTURY TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS.
09:17:28 AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION AGAIN THAT IF THE TPD HAS
09:17:37 BEEN ANY VIOLATION OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR POLICIES,
09:17:40 THAT THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
09:17:42 WITH THAT, I YIELD MY TIME.
09:17:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:17:46 ALL RIGHT.
09:17:47 DO WE HAVE ANY MORE LIVE SPEAKERS?
09:17:49 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, NO, WE DO NOT.
09:17:51 I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE TWO OTHERS THAT REGISTERED
09:17:54 BUT THEY DID NOT SHOW UP ONLINE.
09:17:56 THE NAME ARE SHIVE SHUKLA AND JORDINA CUMMINGS.
09:18:01 I WILL PROCEED WITH THE VOICE RECORDINGS.
09:18:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
09:18:05 HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE HAVE?
09:18:07 >>THE CLERK: SIX.
09:18:09 >> HELLO, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
09:18:10 MY NAME IS CHARLES PATINO.
09:18:12 MY ADDRESS IS 1313 WEST CARUSO COURT.
09:18:16 MY COMMENT TODAY WOULD BE REGARDING THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE
09:18:20 PAINTING THAT THEY DID ON THE STREETS.
09:18:22 THERE ARE RULES SET UP IN OUR COUNTRY AND THE POLICE AND THE
09:18:26 SHERIFFS AND THE GOVERNMENT ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED
09:18:28 TO ENFORCE THOSE RULES.
09:18:30 I DON'T LIKE HOW THE LEADERS OF THIS WERE TEXTING EACH OTHER
09:18:33 AND EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER PAPERWORK, THEY
09:18:37 STILL WENT AHEAD AND PAINTED IT EVEN THOUGH THEY DID NOT
09:18:40 HAVE LEGAL PERMISSION YET.
09:18:42 THEY NEED TO BE MADE AN EXAMPLE OF.
09:18:45 YOU CANNOT DO WHAT YOU WANT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE FOR LAW
09:18:48 ENFORCEMENT.
09:18:49 JUST LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN A KAREN WITH
09:18:52 A LITTLE SHERIFF STICKER ON THE BACK OF HER CAR, AND SHE'S
09:18:57 JUST SPEEDING BUT YET THE COP PULLS SOMEBODY ELSE OVER.
09:19:00 I'VE SEEN THAT MANY, MANY TIMES.
09:19:02 SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE ENFORCING THE LAW, WE
09:19:05 SHOULD HAVE PEOPLE OF QUALITY.
09:19:06 I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO FIRE THE POLICE CHIEF AND FIND
09:19:09 SOMEBODY WHO IS HOPEFULLY A LITTLE MORE EDUCATED AND MORE
09:19:11 QUALIFIED TO LEAD.
09:19:12 PREFERABLY WITH MAYBE A MASTER'S OR EVEN A DOCTORATE.
09:19:15 I KNOW THAT'S FAR OUT THERE TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE
09:19:19 TRULY EDUCATED, BUT THAT IS MY SUGGESTION.
09:19:22 HAVE A GREAT DAY.
09:19:23 THANK YOU.
09:19:27 >> HI.
09:19:28 MY NAME IS GRANT LOVERING.
09:19:28 I'M AT 916 EAST EMMA STREET.
09:19:32 I'M ONE OF THE SEVEN WHO WAS WRONGFULLY ARRESTED ON AUGUST 8
09:19:36 FOR PAINTING A RAINBOW MURAL.
09:19:39 YOU-ALL KNOW HOW HYPOCRITICAL IT WAS TO ARREST US WHILE
09:19:42 ALLOWING THE BACK THE BLUE PEOPLE TO GET AWAY SCOT-FREE.
09:19:48 THE POLICE SAW THEM SPITTING ON US, KNOCKING PHONES OUT OF
09:19:52 OUR HANDS, BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH US ON A COUPLE OF
09:19:55 DIFFERENT OCCASIONS AND DID NOTHING.
09:19:57 COMPLETELY HYPOCRITICAL.
09:19:59 I ASKED RIGHT AWAY IF MY HANDCUFFS COULD BE LOOSENED SINCE
09:20:06 THEY WERE PUT ON EXTREMELY UNNECESSARILY TIGHT.
09:20:09 THEY WERE NOT.
09:20:10 WE JUST ASKED FOR THE WINDOW TO BE PUT DOWN WHILE WE WERE
09:20:12 SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HOT CAR WHILE THEY BRUTALIZED
09:20:16 OTHER PROTESTORS.
09:20:18 THAT WASN'T DONE.
09:20:18 THE WHOLE PROCESS GOING INTO THE JAIL WAS COMPLETELY
09:20:21 DEHUMANIZING.
09:20:22 HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE READ THE TAMPA BAY TIMES ARTICLE BY
09:20:25 NOW TALKING ABOUT ONE OF MY FRIENDS GETTING BEAT AND A
09:20:29 COUPLE OTHER ONES GETTING MOLESTED.
09:20:31 SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT.
09:20:33 I WOULD LOVE TO BE GIVING THIS COMMENT IN PUBLIC TOMORROW
09:20:37 MORNING.
09:20:38 UNFORTUNATELY, I'LL BE WORKING.
09:20:39 I'LL BE DELIVERING PRODUCE FOR A SIMPLER PLACE FARM, IF
09:20:43 YOU'RE TRYING TO GET FRESH LOCAL PRODUCE.
09:20:45 IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MY OTHER EMPLOYER, GO AHEAD AND LOOK ON
09:20:48 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WEBSITE.
09:20:50 THEY LIST ALL OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION, ALL THE PRIVATE
09:20:53 INFORMATION THERE.
09:20:54 THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO.
09:21:00 MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE HITTING YOU WITH THE FACTS.
09:21:03 I'M GOING TO GO FOR THE EMOTIONAL APPEAL.
09:21:08 YOU ALL AREN'T COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE POLICE AND THE
09:21:12 JAILERS IN THE SENSE THAT YOU DO HAVE TO SEE US AS LESS
09:21:16 THAN.
09:21:17 I WON'T SAY SUBHUMAN, BUT LESS THAN.
09:21:20 YOU HAVE TO SEE US AS JUST AN ANGRY MOB OF KIDS SO YOU DON'T
09:21:25 HAVE TO LISTEN.
09:21:26 NOW, I KNOW ALL OF OUR WORLD VIEWS ARE SHAPED BY OUR PAST
09:21:31 EXPERIENCES AND WHO WE'RE CURRENTLY INTERACTING WITH.
09:21:34 I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TIES TO THE POLICE COMMUNITY AND THE
09:21:37 PBA, BUT I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO MAGICALLY FLIP ALL YOUR
09:21:42 VIEWPOINTS OVERNIGHT.
09:21:43 HOWEVER, I DO EXPECT YOU TO TAKE THE TIME TO SIT DOWN AND
09:21:46 LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.
09:21:49 BEFORE RETURNING TO THE U.S. TWO YEARS AGO, I TAUGHT ENGLISH
09:21:54 IN TAIWAN FOR SIX YEARS, MOSTLY FIRST AND SECOND GRADERS.
09:21:57 [INAUDIBLE] -- THAT I LEARNED SO MUCH MORE FROM THEM THAN
09:22:04 THEY LEARNED FROM ME.
09:22:06 IT BLEW THEIR MINDS.
09:22:08 KIDS AREN'T USED TO HEARING THAT FROM ADULTS, RIGHT?
09:22:15 >> MY NAME IS JOSEPH McCLENNAN.
09:22:17 I RESIDE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, FLORIDA.
09:22:20 I'M CALLING TO ADDRESS STAFF REPORT 3 TODAY.
09:22:24 WHILE I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO COMPARE USE OF FORCE
09:22:27 POLICIES TO THE OBAMA RECOMMENDATIONS, I BELIEVE THERE ARE
09:22:30 THREE MAIN ISSUES OF THIS.
09:22:32 MANY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE DOJ REPORT ARE TOO
09:22:36 AMBIGUOUS AND LEAVES ROOM FOR ERROR IN THE PRESENTATION.
09:22:39 THE SECOND ISSUE THAT COMES TO MIND IF WE'RE GOING TO USE
09:22:42 THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS A MEASURING STICK, WE SHOULD LOOK AT
09:22:46 THE RECOMMENDATIONS SURROUNDING USE OF FORCE POLICY.
09:22:49 ONE OF THESE THAT I KNOW THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN LOUD IN SUPPORT
09:22:53 FOR IS THE USE OF INDEPENDENT AND THIRD-PARTY INVESTIGATORS
09:22:56 IN SITUATIONS WHICH DEATH OR INJURY OCCURRED, VICTIMS OF
09:23:01 POLICE BRUTALITY.
09:23:02 I THINK OF JONAS JOSEPH IN THIS CASE AND HOW CONTROVERSIAL
09:23:05 THAT CURRENTLY IS IN TAMPA.
09:23:06 MY THIRD AND BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT THERE ISN'T LEGITIMATE
09:23:10 ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR POLICE FORCE RIGHT NOW.
09:23:12 IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THEY HAVE BROKEN MANY OF THEIR
09:23:16 OWN CURRENT POLICIES, CURRENT POLICIES, SUCH AS
09:23:20 INDISCRIMINATE USE OF PEPPER SPRAY, SEARCHING OUT AND
09:23:22 ARRESTING VIOLATORS OF THE LAW, WHICH THEY AREN'T DOING FOR
09:23:25 JAE PASSMORE AND PROSECUTING THE MAN WHO HIT HER WITH HIS
09:23:32 TRUCK.
09:23:32 ANOTHER POLICY THAT THEY HAVE BROKEN IS USING FORCE ONLY
09:23:39 AFTER ALL OTHER MEANS OF -- COMPLIANCE HAS FAILED.
09:23:43 OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I'VE WITNESSED MULTIPLE
09:23:46 AMBUSHES FROM THE -- SQUAD THAT BEGINS AND ENDS WITH
09:23:51 VIOLENCE IN THE FORM OF PEPPER SPRAY, TACKLING, HOLDING
09:23:54 PEOPLE AGAINST ASPHALT.
09:23:55 THIS ALSO GOES TO THE PLAINCLOTHES UNIT, WHICH IS BEING USED
09:23:59 FOR TARGETED ARREST OF PEACEFUL PROTESTORS AND FOR SPYING
09:24:03 PURPOSES.
09:24:03 ON THE 4th OF JULY, THE PROTEST, AN UNDERCOVER COP WAS
09:24:07 CAUGHT VIDEOTAPING PROTESTORS AND THEN -- [INAUDIBLE]
09:24:13 UNMARKED VEHICLE WHEN PEOPLE REALIZED WHAT HE WAS DOING.
09:24:15 THIS IS A BUNCH OF COLLEGE KIDS.
09:24:17 WHY ARE WE WASTING RESOURCES LIKE THIS?
09:24:22 PAYING THAT MAN PROBABLY CLOSE TO SIX FIGURES TO SPY ON A
09:24:25 BUNCH OF 20-YEAR-OLDS PEACEFULLY PROTESTING.
09:24:28 WE NOT ONLY NEED NEW POLICIES, WE NEED SPECIFIC AND
09:24:32 MEASURABLE PUNISHMENT FOR WHEN THESE POLICIES ARE BREACHED.
09:24:36 IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO CREATE POLICIES IF THEY AREN'T LISTENING
09:24:39 TO THEIR CURRENT POLICIES RIGHT NOW.
09:24:42 WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE NEED TRANSPARENCY.
09:24:44 THANK YOU.
09:24:48 >> MY NAME IS MABEL PELAEZ.
09:24:51 I LIVE AT 2865 LAKESIDE COMMONS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
09:24:55 33613.
09:24:57 I AM TIRED OF POLICE OFFICERS NOT SERVING THEIR TRUE
09:25:03 PURPOSE, WHICH IS PROTECTING ALL OF TAMPA CITIZENS.
09:25:06 OUR TAX DOLLARS GO TO THEM FOR WHAT?
09:25:10 SO THEY CAN BRUTALLY HURT PROTESTORS AND PROTECT THE
09:25:15 CITIZENS WHO BACK THE BLUE, WHICH IS USED TO REFER TO POLICE
09:25:15 OFFICERS.
09:25:18 THEY DON'T FOLLOW THEIR OWN POLICIES.
09:25:20 THEY DON'T DE-ESCALATE.
09:25:23 THEY DON'T TRY TO DO ANYTHING.
09:25:24 THEY JUST USE IMMEDIATE FORCE OR THEY BRUTALLY HURT PEACEFUL
09:25:29 PROTESTORS OR OTHER PEOPLE.
09:25:31 THEY ALSO DON'T NEED ALL THAT MONEY OR MORE MONEY AND ALL
09:25:36 THOSE TRAININGS.
09:25:37 THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
09:25:40 TAKE AWAY THEIR PAYCHECKS, RETIREMENT.
09:25:43 TRULY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.
09:25:45 WE NO LONGER FEEL SAFE, AND WE DON'T WANT CASTOR'S BUDGET.
09:25:50 WE DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE POLICE BUDGET BY $13 MILLION.
09:25:54 WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR JONAS JOSEPH AND ANDREW JOSEPH THE
09:25:59 III WHO WERE BRUTALLY KILLED BY TPD?
09:26:06 THEY DESERVE JUSTICE.
09:26:07 THOSE POLICE OFFICERS SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE POLICE
09:26:10 FORCE.
09:26:10 THEY SHOULD NO LONGER BE PROTECTING -- AND I'M USING QUOTES
09:26:14 FOR THAT -- OUR COMMUNITIES.
09:26:17 DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND PLEASE DO NOT
09:26:20 INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR POLICE, FOR THE TAMPA POLICE
09:26:24 DEPARTMENT.
09:26:25 AND PLEASE TRULY THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO HOLD
09:26:29 THESE POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE.
09:26:33 THANKS.
09:26:37 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:26:37 MY NAME IS SOPHIA.
09:26:39 I LIVE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
09:26:41 I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCILMEN AND STAFF FOR YOUR PATIENCE
09:26:44 AS THOSE OF US WHO DON'T NORMALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE
09:26:48 DEMOCRATIC PROCESS LOCALLY, LIKE MYSELF, LEARN TO DO SO.
09:26:52 I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS AND E-MAILS ABOUT
09:26:55 REALLOCATING FUNDS.
09:26:56 I HOPE YOU REMAIN PATIENT AND OPEN TO TRYING SPECIFIC
09:27:00 POLICIES TO BRING FORWARD.
09:27:01 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT STAFF REPORT THREE, THE USE OF FORCE
09:27:04 POLICY THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA ADVOCATED FOR IS VERY BROAD BUT
09:27:09 IS ESSENTIAL IN DEMOCRACY.
09:27:11 MAKES A POINT THAT CITIZENS ARE -- TRUST THAT IT IS BEING
09:27:17 ENFORCED JUSTLY.
09:27:19 IN FACT, THIS DOCUMENT IS ONLY ABOUT 110 PAGES LONG BUT IT
09:27:22 MENTIONS THE WORD TRUST 114 TIMES.
09:27:25 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES ONLY MENTION TRUST IN THE
09:27:29 SAME SENSE OF THE WORD 11 TIMES.
09:27:31 TPD'S POLICIES ARE 1,040 PAGES LONG.
09:27:34 READING THROUGH THEIR POLICIES, THEY SEEM TO BE WRITTEN
09:27:37 REACTIVELY TO PROTECT OFFICERS RATHER THAN PROACTIVELY TO
09:27:44 PROTECT OFFICERS AND THE CITIZENS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
09:27:45 GUARDING.
09:27:45 FIRST, I WANT TO URGE THE COUNCIL TO HELP THE TAMPA POLICE
09:27:46 DEPARTMENT MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF THE FEDERALLY
09:27:48 RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES.
09:27:49 IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT POLICY IS JUST POLICY, RIGHT?
09:27:55 NICER WORDS WON'T REALLY FIX THE PUBLIC TRUST PROBLEM --
09:27:55 THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF TPD ABUSING THE
09:28:02 PUBLIC'S TRUST.
09:28:03 ON JULY 4, THEY HAD PLAINCLOTHES OFFICERS ATTEND AND FILM A
09:28:07 PEACEFUL PROTEST SO THEY COULD TARGET AND ARREST THE
09:28:10 ORGANIZERS.
09:28:10 WHEN THEY DID COME IN TO ARREST THE ORGANIZERS, THEY USED
09:28:13 MORE THAN THE AMOUNT OF FORCE NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE
09:28:14 COMPLIANCE.
09:28:15 THEY USED PEPPER SPRAY INDISCRIMINATELY, WHICH IS EXPRESSLY
09:28:20 FORBIDDEN ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN POLICIES.
09:28:22 THE POLICIES ALSO STATE THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO USE THE
09:28:24 SPRAY TO SAFELY ARREST AND DETAIN SUBJECTS, NOT AS CROWD
09:28:28 CONTROL, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
09:28:29 EARLIER AT THE SAME JULY 4th PROTEST, A CAR DROVE THROUGH
09:28:35 THE CROWD.
09:28:36 TPD DID NOT SEARCH OUT AND ARREST THIS MAN WHO WAS CAUGHT ON
09:28:40 CAMERA UNTIL NEARLY TWO MONTHS LATER.
09:28:42 FROM THE PUBLIC'S POINT OF VIEW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT TOOK THE
09:28:44 EARLIER HIT AND RUN OF JAE PASSMORE GETTING NATIONAL
09:28:45 ATTENTION, A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER, FOR
09:28:50 TPD TO EVEN CHARGE THE 4th OF JULY DRIVER WITH RECKLESS
09:28:53 DRIVING.
09:28:53 SPEAKING OF JAE, THEY WERE AT A PEACEFUL PROTEST WHEN A MAN
09:28:56 STEPPED IN FRONT OF THEM AND STOPPED SHORT AS THEY LIGHTLY
09:28:59 PUSHED HIM FORWARD.
09:29:01 THIS INCIDENT WAS ALSO CAUGHT ON CAMERA.
09:29:03 BUT TPD FOUND FAULT IN JAE'S ACTIONS AND WAS IN HANDCUFFS
09:29:05 THAT SAME NIGHT.
09:29:06 AGAIN, FROM THE PUBLIC'S POINT OF VIEW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
09:29:10 TPD IS ENFORCING THE LAW IMPARTIALLY OR PROTECTING ALL
09:29:15 CITIZENS IN THE LAWFUL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS.
09:29:17 WHILE I'M ASKING TO YOU ADOPT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S POLICIES
09:29:20 GOING FORWARD, I AM ALSO URGING YOU TO TAKE NOTES OF
09:29:24 INSTANCES LIKE THIS AND HOW THEY BREAK TPD'S ALREADY
09:29:28 EXISTING POLICIES AND IN TURN CREATE PUBLIC TRUST.
09:29:31 THANK YOU.
09:29:31 >> HI.
09:29:40 THIS IS TATIANA MORALES AGAIN.
09:29:40 MY PREVIOUS VOICEMAIL GOT CUT SHORT.
09:29:39 WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS WE NEED TO IMMEDIATELY FIRE POLICE
09:29:44 OFFICERS -- WE NEED NO HIRING OF NEW OFFICERS OR -- WE NEED
09:29:49 TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF POLICE THERE.
09:29:51 2,000 PEOPLE MARCHED DOWN BAYSHORE.
09:29:51 WE'RE SAYING THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH POLICING IN OUR CITY.
09:29:57 WE NEED TO BAN POLICE CONTRACTING FOR NONPROFITS AND
09:29:57 INSTITUTIONS.
09:30:14 A BAN ON CITY CANDIDATES TAKING MONEY FROM POLICE UNIONS --
09:30:14 OUR MAYOR IS THE FORMER POLICE CHIEF TAKING FUNDS FROM HER
09:30:14 OWN SEPARATE NONPROFIT.
09:29:57 WE ALSO NEED TO DEMAND THE RIGHT THAT PROTESTORS BE
09:30:17 RESPECTED AND PROTECTED AND THERE BE NO ABUSE OF POWER.
09:30:19 SUCH AS VIOLATIONS OF PROPERTY SHOULD NEVER BE EQUATED WITH
09:30:23 A VIOLATION OF HUMAN LIFE.
09:30:23 LOCAL CITY OFFICIALS NEED TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO ABUSE
09:30:23 OF POWERS, USE OF CHEMICAL WARFARE -- FORCE ON PEOPLE
09:30:23 PROTESTING.
09:30:33 DUE TO COVID AND THE CONCERNS WE'RE HAVING THERE WE NEED TO
09:30:35 RELEASE ALL THE PEOPLE HELD AT THE -- ON PRETRIAL AND CIVIL
09:30:41 VIOLATIONS BECAUSE THEY ONLY GO INTO THE PRISON SYSTEM TO
09:30:44 GET SICK WITH COVID AND DIE, WHICH IS ALREADY HAPPENING AT
09:30:46 THE ORIENT JAIL THAT WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING THESE
09:30:46 ISSUES.
09:30:46 WE ALSO NEED TO REPEAL THE -- LAW AND CODE VIOLATIONS THAT
09:30:46 ARE USED TO DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGET PEOPLE OF COLOR.
09:30:47 AND OVERALL, WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
09:30:47 COMMITTEE AS RUN BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
09:30:47 AS AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY TO CREATE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
09:30:47 POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE SYSTEMIC
09:31:06 ROOT OF CRIME AND NOT COPS UNDERTRAINED FOR THE SYSTEMIC
09:31:11 ISSUES.
09:31:12 ALL THESE THINGS ARE TO SAY THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES GOING
09:31:14 ON AND WE DO NOT NEED RAISES FOR THE CURRENT POLICE FORCE.
09:31:17 THERE IS NO NEED CONSTANTLY PAYING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
09:31:20 INTO A BUDGET, INTO A CITY BUDGET THAT HAS NO MONEY
09:31:23 ALLOCATED TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:31:25 NOTHING TO ACTUALLY PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND HELP DEAL WITH
09:31:27 THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE TAMPA A MORE MARGINALIZED
09:31:33 AND DISTRAUGHT LOCATION.
09:31:34 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:31:35 MAKE SURE THERE IS A SWORN OFFICER CAP AT 900 OFFICERS.
09:31:41 AT 900 OFFICERS, TAMPA SHOULD BE FINE.
09:31:43 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:31:46 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
09:31:47 THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
09:31:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:51 BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE NOTE THAT AT AROUND
09:31:56 11, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS JUST -- HE HAS TO LOG OFF FOR
09:32:00 ABOUT 15 MINUTES REGARDING A WORK MATTER.
09:32:03 AND THEN HE WILL BE RECONNECTING WITH US.
09:32:07 I MENTIONED THE CONTINUANCE OF THE ONE ITEM, WHICH COUNCIL
09:32:12 MEMBER, GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
09:32:15 THAT ITEM, WHICH WAS THE DIVERSITY NUMBER OF TPD FOR THE
09:32:19 LAST TEN YEARS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME?
09:32:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:32:23 MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 3 FROM AUGUST 27, 2020
09:32:28 WORKSHOP AGENDA AND ADD TO THE SEPTEMBER 24 WORKSHOP AGENDA.
09:32:31 EZ 2020-8 CH, REPORT ON THE DIVERSITY NUMBERS OVER THE LAST
09:32:38 TEN YEARS.
09:32:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:32:40 CITRO.
09:32:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
09:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:32:48 GO AHEAD.
09:32:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:32:50 THANK YOU, MR. CITRO, MR. GUDES FOR MAKING THAT.
09:32:56 I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS FOR A SECOND.
09:33:02 I THINK TPD MADE A GOOD FIRST START WHEN THEY RESPONDED TO
09:33:06 OUR MOTION, BUT THEY PROVIDED -- CHIEF, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE
09:33:14 LINE.
09:33:15 YOU GUYS PROVIDED THE DATA AS RELATED TO SOME EEO STANDARDS
09:33:18 THAT WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH.
09:33:21 I KNOW YOU GUYS WORK WITH THOSE STANDARDS I'M SURE REGULARLY
09:33:25 AND YOUR HR PEOPLE DO, BUT IN SHOWING US, YOU KNOW, HOW TPD
09:33:32 DID AS RELATED TO THESE EEO STANDARDS, IT DOESN'T REALLY
09:33:37 TELL US ANYTHING.
09:33:38 I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS CORRECT TO REQUEST THAT WE SEE
09:33:43 THE RAW NUMBERS.
09:33:44 AT LEAST THAT WAY WHEN WE SEE THE RAW NUMBERS, WE CAN DRAW
09:33:47 OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS AND HAVE A MORE INTELLIGENT
09:33:50 CONVERSATION.
09:33:50 I SUPPORT THE MOTION AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A LITTLE
09:33:53 BIT.
09:33:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:33:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:33:55 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:33:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DID RECEIVE THE MEMORANDUM FROM CHIEF
09:34:03 DUGAN.
09:34:05 AGAIN, WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID, IT WASN'T VERY CLEAR WHAT
09:34:09 WE WERE ASKING FOR AND NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE EEOC TYPE
09:34:14 GUIDELINE.
09:34:15 I SENT A MEMO TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CHIEF DUGAN, CHIEF
09:34:19 OF STAFF, ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT
09:34:22 ITEMS IN THE MEMO THAT I THINK THE RAW NUMBERS AND THE IDEA
09:34:25 OF HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATES AND WORKS.
09:34:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:34:32 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:34:34 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:34:36 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM
09:34:38 TO THE SEPTEMBER 24th WORKSHOP?
09:34:41 ANY OBJECTION?
09:34:41 SEEING NONE -- HEARING NONE, MOVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
09:34:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
09:34:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:34:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A POINT OF PRIVILEGE BEFORE YOU GET INTO
09:34:58 YOUR AGENDA, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME PLEASE, SIR.
09:35:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
09:35:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIR, IN 1971 -- YESTERDAY, AUGUST 26 AS
09:35:08 WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY TO COMMEMORATE THE PASSAGE OF THE
09:35:11 19th AMENDMENT WHICH GENERATED -- WHICH GUARANTEES ALL
09:35:15 WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
09:35:16 THIS YEAR IS THE 100th ANNIVERSARY OF THE AMENDMENT.
09:35:18 ALTHOUGH DID NOT IMMEDIATELY BREAK DOWN VOTING BARRIERS FOR
09:35:22 ALL WOMEN, EVEN TODAY, THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE.
09:35:25 THIS YEAR PARTICULARLY IS IMPORTANT, TO RECOGNIZE THE
09:35:27 ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE WOMEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT AS WE'RE SEEING
09:35:30 MORE FEMALE COMMENTS RUNNING FOR OFFICE IN 2020, ESPECIALLY
09:35:33 WITH THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN AS CANDIDATE FOR VICE
09:35:39 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
09:35:40 NOT ONLY DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, TODAY WE ACKNOWLEDGE
09:35:45 ALL THE WOMEN WHO PAVED THE WAY.
09:35:47 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:35:48 I YIELD BACK.
09:35:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:35:51 I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
09:35:52 ALL RIGHT.
09:35:53 WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE AGENDA.
09:35:55 WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH IS MS. JUDY LISI FROM THE STRAZ
09:35:59 CENTER, WITH A PRESENTATION OF ABOUT TEN MINUTES OR SO.
09:36:03 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, JUDY LISI, GO AHEAD.
09:36:08 IF YOU ARE MUTED, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:36:19 >>JUDITH LISI: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:36:21 JUDY LISI, CEO OF THE STRAZ CENTER.
09:36:23 I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT TO YOU TODAY.
09:36:27 I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE
09:36:33 PANDEMIC HAS AFFECTED THIS IMPORTANT CITY INSTITUTION AND
09:36:38 HOW WE ARE -- THE CHALLENGES WE ARE FACING, AND HOW WE THINK
09:36:42 WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THEM.
09:36:46 AS YOU KNOW, FOR 33 YEARS, THE STRAZ CENTER HAS SERVED OUR
09:36:49 COMMUNITY AS A PREMIER PERFORMING ARTS AND EVENT FACILITY
09:36:53 AND ANCHOR INSTITUTION.
09:36:54 AS ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN THE
09:36:59 CITY OF TAMPA AND UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE THEN MAYOR BOB
09:37:03 MARTINEZ AND OTHER VISIONARIES, THE STRAZ CENTER OPENED IN
09:37:06 1987 AND HAS BECOME ONE OF THE LEADING PERFORMING ARTS
09:37:09 CENTERS IN THE NATION.
09:37:11 WE ARE 435,000-SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY, AND THE VALUE NOW IS
09:37:17 APPROXIMATELY $800 MILLION CITY OF TAMPA ASSET.
09:37:21 WITH FIVE INDOOR THEATERS, A TEACHING AND TRAINING
09:37:26 CONSERVATORY, PERMANENT OUTDOOR STAGE ON THE RIVERWALK, THE
09:37:29 STRAZ CENTER IS A COMMUNITY HUB SERVING 700,000 PEOPLE EACH
09:37:33 YEAR AND A WORKFORCE OF MORE THAN 500.
09:37:37 IT'S AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR, FUELING AN ANNUAL ECONOMIC
09:37:40 IMPACT OF MORE THAN $130 MILLION A YEAR, INCLUDING $3
09:37:44 MILLION IN LOCAL TAX REVENUE.
09:37:47 IT IS A CATALYST FOR TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY, DRIVING
09:37:50 BUSINESSES TO LOCAL RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, AND ATTRACTING
09:37:55 STATE, NATIONAL, AND INTERNATIONAL VISITORS.
09:37:58 IT'S AN ESSENTIAL VENUE FOR MAJOR NATIONAL EVENTS, FOR CIVIC
09:38:02 COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FOR NUMEROUS LOCAL CULTURAL
09:38:05 ORGANIZATIONS.
09:38:06 IT IS A WORLD-CLASS RESOURCE FOR LEARNING AND ARTS
09:38:09 EDUCATION, BOTH ON-SITE AND THROUGH 52 COMMUNITY
09:38:13 PARTNERSHIPS.
09:38:13 IT IS A LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY WITH ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S
09:38:17 MOST IMPORTANT BROADWAY MARKETS.
09:38:19 LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ARE THE HOME FOR WORLD-CLASS ARTISTS
09:38:23 FROM ALL THE PERFORMING ARTS GENRES IN THE WORLD.
09:38:29 WE ARE CALLING THIS TIME THAT WE ARE DARK OUR GREAT
09:38:31 INTERMISSION.
09:38:32 BUT WE ARE NOT TOTALLY SHUTTERED.
09:38:35 WITH INPUT FROM HEALTH ADVISORS AT TGH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
09:38:39 MANAGE SOME ON-SITE ACTIVITY AND TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENTS
09:38:44 TAKING PLACE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR BUILDING.
09:38:46 WE HAVE CONTINUED PERFORMING ARTS INSTRUCTION IN DANCE,
09:38:50 THEATER, MUSIC AT OUR PATEL CONSERVATORY.
09:38:53 WE ARE BUILDING VERIZON WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING
09:38:58 INSTALLED TO PROVIDE SUPERIOR CONNECTIVITY.
09:39:03 I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE
09:39:06 SUPER BOWL, WE ARE HOSTING THE NATIONALLY TELEVISED NFL
09:39:11 NATIONAL AWARDS GALA.
09:39:17 WE HOST NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY.
09:39:20 WE'RE USING OUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AS A PRODUCTION
09:39:23 COMPANY FOR A MAJOR ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY WITH A MAJOR STAR
09:39:29 THAT WILL STREAM GLOBALLY.
09:39:31 WE'RE HOPING TO DO MORE OF THIS KIND OF WORK WHILE WE'RE
09:39:34 DARK.
09:39:34 THE STREETS AROUND THE STRAZ CENTER ARE BEING REALIGNED TO
09:39:38 PROVIDE IMPROVED TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND MAKE WAY FOR THE
09:39:42 30-PLUS STORY AIR TOWER APARTMENT BUILDING.
09:39:46 CONSTRUCTION IS WELL UNDERWAY OF THE 340 UNIT MILLCREEK
09:39:49 APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
09:39:52 AND EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR ARRIVAL PLAZA AND
09:39:55 TAMPA RIVERWALK ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF OUR CAMPUS ARE
09:39:58 MOVING AHEAD.
09:40:00 HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, OUR BUSINESS AND REVENUE
09:40:05 HAS SIMPLY GROUND TO A HALT SINCE MARCH 13.
09:40:09 THAT MEANS WE'VE HAD NO REVENUE AT ALL SINCE MARCH 13.
09:40:13 BECAUSE WE ARE A GATHERING PLACE, AND WE'RE SOMEWHAT
09:40:18 DIFFERENT FROM MUSEUMS AND AQUARIUMS.
09:40:21 WE'RE REALLY MORE LIKE THE STADIUMS AND THE ARENA BECAUSE
09:40:24 WE'RE A MASS GATHERING PLACE, BUT IT'S PLACES LIKE OURS HERE
09:40:29 AND AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WERE THE FIRST TO CLOSE AND ARE
09:40:32 GOING TO BE THE LAST TO OPEN.
09:40:35 AND WE MIGHT BE LIKE THIS POTENTIALLY TILL LATE IN 2021.
09:40:42 A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TOURING BROADWAY AND WHY IT'S SO
09:40:46 IMPORTANT TO US, BROADWAY, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN COMPLETELY
09:40:49 SHUT DOWN, AS HAS TOURING BROADWAY.
09:40:52 AND WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO US?
09:40:54 WE ARE ONE OF THE MAJOR BROADWAY MARKETS IN THE UNITED
09:40:58 STATES.
09:40:58 WE BRING IN A MINIMUM OF 60 MAJOR SHOWS A YEAR.
09:41:02 THAT CONSISTS OF 15 TO 30 SEMITRUCKS COMING IN, HUNDREDS OF
09:41:07 PERFORMING ARTISTS HERE, TECHNICAL STAGE CREW, BUSINESS
09:41:11 OPERATORS FOR MULTIPLE WEEKS WHO STAY IN OUR HOTELS, EAT IN
09:41:15 OUR RESTAURANTS AND BUY GOODS AND SERVICES FROM OUR VENDORS.
09:41:19 BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S 70% OF OUR EARNED REVENUE.
09:41:25 AND THAT ALSO FUELS OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE FUNDING AS WELL.
09:41:31 THAT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR KEEPING UP THE FACILITY AND ALSO
09:41:37 HELPING US WITH SUBSIDY FOR OUR OTHER MISSION DRIVEN ARTS
09:41:41 AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS.
09:41:43 WE'VE HAD TO CUT OUR WORKFORCE TO THE CORE.
09:41:47 WE HAD AN AMAZING WORKFORCE OF 500 DEDICATED EMPLOYEES, AND
09:41:51 WE BARELY HAVE ENOUGH NOW TO KEEP OUR BASIC OPERATIONS AND
09:41:55 TO PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY.
09:41:59 WE HAVE MANY COMPLEX SYSTEMS IN THIS $800 MILLION COMPLEX
09:42:04 THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
09:42:06 SO OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS SEVERELY CHALLENGED.
09:42:10 ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE IS WE CAN'T OPERATE WITH SOCIAL
09:42:13 DISTANCING BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO MUCH TO DO THESE SHOWS.
09:42:19 SO WE HAVE TO OPERATE AT 100% CAPACITY.
09:42:22 AND THAT IS WHY IT'S GOING TO TAKE US SO LONG TO BE ABLE TO
09:42:27 REOPEN.
09:42:29 NOW, I'LL TELL YOU HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FROM HERE TO
09:42:33 THERE.
09:42:34 WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
09:42:38 HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME FUNDING FROM THE CARES ACT THAT
09:42:41 WILL FUND OUR EXTENSIVE MITIGATION AND HEALTH PROTOCOLS THAT
09:42:44 ARE GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL FOR US TO REOPEN.
09:42:48 BECAUSE AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH OUR SPORTS ATHLETES, OUR ARTISTS
09:42:52 ARE THE SAME WAY.
09:42:53 IN ORDER FOR OUR ARTISTS TO BE ABLE TO BE ONSTAGE, OUR
09:42:57 MUSICIANS, OUR DANCERS, THEY HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT IN
09:43:01 A SAFE WAY AND WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD WITH ALL OF THE
09:43:04 ARTIST UNIONS IN THE COUNTRY TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT
09:43:07 WORK.
09:43:08 BUT WE HAVE TO SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY TO CREATE A SAFE
09:43:12 ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM AND FOR OUR 700,000 ATTENDEES EVERY
09:43:16 YEAR.
09:43:17 SO WE'RE WORKING WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BONNIE WISE AND
09:43:21 HER TEAM, TOM FESLER AND OTHERS, WHO ARE HELPING US WORK
09:43:25 THROUGH THIS AND ALSO WITH JOHN BENNETT WITH THE CITY AND
09:43:29 JOHN IS ALSO ON OUR BOARD.
09:43:33 HOWEVER, AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE THE PANDEMIC IS MUCH LONGER,
09:43:39 I THINK, THAN ANY OF US ANTICIPATED, WE KNOW THAT WE
09:43:44 PROBABLY ARE GOING TO NEED SUPPORT FOR MUCH LONGER THAN WE
09:43:49 THOUGHT.
09:43:49 I WILL SAY WE DID GET THE PPP LOAN AND THAT HELPED US GET
09:43:55 THROUGH TO THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
09:43:58 SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD THING.
09:44:00 FRANKLY, OUR HOPE IS THAT AFTER THE ELECTION, FROM WHAT WE
09:44:04 UNDERSTAND, THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ACT CALLED THE
09:44:07 RESTART ACT, THAT'S GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOR BUSINESSES
09:44:11 LIKE OURS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE LAST TO OPEN.
09:44:15 AND THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME CONTINUED
09:44:19 PPP SUPPORT, OTHER LOANS.
09:44:21 WE'RE NOT SURE YET.
09:44:23 WE HAVE TO WAIT.
09:44:25 BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND FUNDING
09:44:29 FROM SOMEWHERE TO GET US FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO WHEN
09:44:33 WE'RE ABLE TO RESUME WHAT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL OPERATION
09:44:38 FOR EARNED REVENUE AND REALLY MADE OUR PERFORMING ARTS
09:44:43 CENTER SO STRONG.
09:44:45 SO WE'RE NOT DAUNTED BY OUR CHALLENGES.
09:44:48 OUR STRAZ CENTER STAFF, WHO ARE WITH US ARE WORKING VERY,
09:44:52 VERY HARD ON OUR REOPENING PLAN TO BEGIN REBUILDING OUR
09:44:58 OPERATIONS.
09:44:58 WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO ESTABLISH OUR SAFETY AND HEALTH
09:45:03 PROTOCOLS.
09:45:03 WE'RE WORKING HARD TO SUSTAIN OUR COMMUNITY-BASED AND
09:45:06 GENERAL PROGRAMS.
09:45:07 AND, OF COURSE, TO PRESERVE OUR STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY.
09:45:12 I PERSONALLY AM WORKING WITH THE BROADWAY LEAGUE ON
09:45:16 REOPENING BROADWAY FOR THE ROAD AND HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN.
09:45:20 AND LORRIN SHEPARD, WHO IS ALSO, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR
09:45:23 HIM, HE'S ONLINE TODAY.
09:45:27 HE IS CHAIRING THE NATIONAL TASK FORCE WITH THE KENNEDY
09:45:30 CENTER AND OTHERS OF HOW DO WE REOPEN OUR MAJOR PERFORMING
09:45:36 ART CENTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH HEALTH PROTOCOLS.
09:45:40 OUR REOPENING PLAN INCLUDES THREE PHASES.
09:45:43 PHASE ONE IS REOPENING THE CONSERVATORY.
09:45:48 WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE CLASSES THIS SUMMER ON-SITE.
09:45:52 WE DID NOT HAVE ONE COVID INCIDENT, I'M GLAD TO REPORT.
09:45:56 AND THEY ARE OPENING ON-SITE THIS FALL.
09:45:59 WE HOPE TO OPEN OUR RIVER STAGE SPACE BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE
09:46:07 OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATION WHICH IS ON THE RIVERWALK.
09:46:10 WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT SAFELY.
09:46:14 PHASE TWO, WHICH WILL HAPPEN SOMETIME IN THE FALL, WE'RE
09:46:18 TRYING TO PRODUCE SMALLER PRODUCTIONS WITH OUR LOCAL
09:46:24 ARTISTS.
09:46:25 WE HAVE WONDERFUL LOCAL ARTISTS, AND WE FEEL WE COULD DO
09:46:28 SOME LOCAL SMALL SHOWS THAT WE COULD DO WITH SOME SOCIAL
09:46:32 DISTANCING.
09:46:34 WE DID JUST HEAR, HOWEVER, THAT THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA HAS
09:46:38 DECIDED THAT THEY CANNOT PERFORM UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT YEAR.
09:46:44 AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
09:46:46 WE UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
09:46:48 AS I SAID, WE'RE PREPARING FOR MAJOR ACTIVITIES IN
09:46:52 CONJUNCTION WITH THE SUPER BOWL.
09:46:57 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS MAKE SURE
09:47:00 THAT ENDEAR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TO BE AS SAFE AS
09:47:07 POSSIBLE WHEN WE DO REOPEN.
09:47:09 PEOPLE WILL COME TO US IF THEY KNOW WE'RE SAFE.
09:47:11 CONSISTENT WITH NATIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR MITIGATION
09:47:15 PLAN OUTLINES MANY GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
09:47:18 I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM BUT THIS IS WHAT
09:47:21 WE'RE DEALING WITH AND TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR.
09:47:24 CONTACTLESS ENTRY AND TRANSACTION SYSTEMS, ENHANCED CLEANING
09:47:28 IN LOBBIES, THEATERS AND CONSERVATORY SPACES, INCLUDING FOOD
09:47:33 AND BEVERAGE.
09:47:35 PROPER SIGNAGE AND COMMUNICATIONS.
09:47:39 SANITIZATION AND WHAT IS A BIG ONE IS OUR HVAC FILTRATION
09:47:44 SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS.
09:47:45 IN CLOSING, WE WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE ARE DOING OUR
09:47:50 VERY, VERY BEST TO KEEP OUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AS
09:47:53 RELEVANT AS POSSIBLE, TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN DURING THIS
09:47:57 TIME IN A SAFE WAY.
09:48:00 WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU FOR FUNDING RIGHT NOW.
09:48:06 WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE THIS IS TAKING US.
09:48:11 AT SOME POINT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO TURN TO YOU FOR HELP, BUT
09:48:15 WE'RE NOT SURE YET.
09:48:18 IT IS A CITY ASSET.
09:48:19 WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT AS A PRIVATE NOT FOR PROFIT TO DO THE
09:48:24 BEST WE CAN, BUT WE'RE WATCHING EVERYTHING VERY CLOSELY.
09:48:27 I PROMISE YOU, WE WILL COME TO YOU WITH FURTHER UPDATES AS
09:48:31 WE MOVE THROUGH THIS JOURNEY.
09:48:34 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING AND I'M HAPPY TO
09:48:38 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
09:48:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:42 BRIEFLY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:48:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW YOU ARE ON THE STRAZ BOARD.
09:48:49 DO YOU WANT TO START IT OFF?
09:48:51 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
09:48:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
09:48:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:48:54 THANK YOU, MS. LISI, AND JULIE AND LORRIN FOR JOINING US
09:49:02 TODAY.
09:49:03 JUDY, IT'S DEFINITELY SOME TOUGH TIMES FOR YOU AND YOUR
09:49:09 STAFF AND ALL OF YOUR PERFORMERS AND YOUR STUDENTS.
09:49:14 WE SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU GUYS AND WE HOPE WE CAN BE IN A
09:49:19 POSITION TO HELP WHEN YOU DO COME BACK, OR IF YOU DO COME
09:49:23 BACK AND ASK.
09:49:24 ONE OF THE MOTIONS THAT WE HAVE PENDING OVER AT THE CRA IS
09:49:29 TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE DOWNTOWN CRA MIGHT BE OF
09:49:34 ASSISTANCE IN THE FUTURE WITH SOME EMERGENCY FUNDS, IF YOU
09:49:40 NEED IT.
09:49:41 WE'LL STAY IN TOUCH THROUGH THAT, AND I'LL BE YOUR LIAISON
09:49:45 BACK TO THE BOARD.
09:49:45 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:49:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:47 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:49:53 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, THIS IS CARLSON.
09:49:55 COULD I MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT?
09:49:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:49:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO THANK MS. LISI AND YOUR
09:50:01 BOARD.
09:50:02 YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB MANAGING THIS FACILITY AND THE
09:50:07 ECONOMIC IMPACT OF IT IS UNDERESTIMATED IN THAT THE BROAD
09:50:12 RANGE OF INDUSTRIES IT SUPPORTS AND HELPS AND THE WAY IT
09:50:15 ATTRACTS THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST PEOPLE AND THE COMPANIES
09:50:18 THAT WE WANT TO GROW AND THRIVE HERE.
09:50:20 SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING YOU PERSONALLY AND THROUGH THE
09:50:23 CITY TO HELP BRING THE STAGE BACK OPEN AND TO MAKE YOU ALL
09:50:28 EVEN BETTER SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.
09:50:30 THANK YOU.
09:50:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
09:50:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:50:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR, AND FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
09:50:40 THIS MORNING.
09:50:40 I THINK MR. DINGFELDER TOOK SOME OF MY THUNDER ON THE CRA
09:50:45 CONCEPT.
09:50:46 I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN -- IF IT COMES TO THAT POINT.
09:50:50 IT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
09:50:52 AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN FOLLOW GUIDELINES IF THEY
09:50:55 NEED HELP BECAUSE IT IS A WORLDWIDE ATTRACTION.
09:50:58 SOME OF THE BEST SHOWS HERE IN TOWN.
09:51:00 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:51:01 AND I YIELD BACK.
09:51:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:03 ALL RIGHT.
09:51:06 I HEAR NO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:51:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:08 WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
09:51:12 WE WILL NOW CONTINUE WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA.
09:51:14 >>JUDITH LISI: THANK YOU.
09:51:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:17 >>JUDITH LISI: THANK YOU.
09:51:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHOMEVER
09:51:26 WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN ON THIS ITEM.
09:51:28 I BELIEVE I HEARD BERCAW FROM TPD, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:51:46 >> I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS GOING TO START
09:51:48 OFF WITH THE AGENDA ITEM.
09:51:50 CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
09:51:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO
09:51:56 BEGIN ON THIS AND IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT.
09:52:01 WHOEVER WISHES TO BEGIN.
09:52:03 >>URSULA RICHARDSON: THIS IS URSULA RICHARDSON WITH THE CITY
09:52:05 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
09:52:06 I DRAFTED THE REPORT THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL
09:52:09 BACK ON JUNE 4th.
09:52:11 THAT REPORT OR THE REQUEST FOR A REPORT WAS TO COMPARE THE
09:52:14 USE OF FORCE POLICIES BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE
09:52:19 8 CAN'T WAIT INITIATIVE.
09:52:21 THAT REPORT WAS SUBMITTED, WHICH SETS FORTH THE COMPARISON,
09:52:27 AND I FIND THAT OUR POLICIES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE 8 CAN'T
09:52:31 WAIT INITIATIVES, AND CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
09:52:35 HAVE ABOUT THAT COMPARISON.
09:52:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:52:38 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:52:40 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, I BELIEVE THIS WAS YOUR MOTION IF
09:52:44 YOU'D LIKE TO START IT OFF.
09:52:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, ACTUALLY, IT WAS DINGFELDER AND MR.
09:52:49 CARLSON'S MOTION.
09:52:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO HAVE A QUESTION, MAINLY TO CHIEF
09:53:00 BERCAW.
09:53:04 THANK YOU, URSULA FOR DOING A GREAT JOB AS USUAL.
09:53:08 ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
09:53:13 >> YES, I AM.
09:53:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHEN THIS INITIAL MEMO IN RESPONSE TO
09:53:17 THE 8 CAN'T WAIT CAME OUT, MY RESPONSE WAS POSITIVE.
09:53:23 I SAID, OH, THIS IS GREAT THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS THESE
09:53:27 POLICIES IN FORCE, ALBEIT, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE KIND OF
09:53:34 SCATTERED ALL OVER THE PLACE.
09:53:37 SOME OF THEM ARE STANDARD SOPs, STANDARD OPERATING
09:53:40 PROCEDURES.
09:53:40 AND OTHERS ARE FOUND IN THE TRAINING MANUAL.
09:53:44 AS A MATTER OF FACT, AT THE TIME BACK IN JUNE, I THINK, I
09:53:49 SAID WHY DON'T WE CONSOLIDATE THESE INTO ONE LOCATION AND
09:53:53 WHEN YOU GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY
09:53:57 USE OF FORCE, AND THEY POP RIGHT UP.
09:54:00 BETTER YET, I THINK IT SHOULD BE A CATEGORY IN THE TPD
09:54:09 WEBSITE RIGHT NEXT TO MAYBE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD OR
09:54:13 WHATEVER, THE USE OF FORCE.
09:54:15 I JUST WENT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO SEE IF THERE'S BEEN ANY
09:54:19 IMPROVEMENTS.
09:54:21 THERE'S NOTHING THERE ON THE WEBSITE THAT SAYS USE OF FORCE
09:54:24 ON THE TPD COVER PAGE.
09:54:28 WHEN I TYPED IN THE WORD SEARCH, "USE OF FORCE," IT TOOK ME
09:54:32 TO AN 8 CAN'T WAIT SORT OF SUMMARY WITH A LOT OF LINKS,
09:54:39 WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE THE MEMO WE HAD.
09:54:41 THE SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE RESPECTFULLY, CHIEF, IS THAT
09:54:47 WHOEVER DOES YOUR WEBSITE JUST INCLUDES A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM
09:54:53 THAT SAYS "USE OF FORCE."
09:54:56 THE REASON I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IS TWOFOLD.
09:54:58 NUMBER ONE, I THINK WHEN THE COMMUNITY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT
09:55:01 USE OF FORCE, MAYBE THEY FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY HAS BEEN ABUSED
09:55:04 OR MAYBE THEY ARE JUST CURIOUS, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR
09:55:08 THEM TO FIND WITHOUT ANY SEARCH ENGINES.
09:55:10 NUMBER TWO, IF YOUR OFFICERS HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT USE OF
09:55:15 FORCE, I THINK -- AND IT MIGHT BE A VERY URGENT QUESTION
09:55:21 ABOUT USE OF FORCE, MAYBE THEY, TOO, COULD GO ON THE WEBSITE
09:55:26 AND SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT POPS UP RIGHT AWAY AS OPPOSED
09:55:29 TO TRYING TO FIND EIGHT DIFFERENT POLICIES.
09:55:32 ANYWAY, THAT'S MY FRIENDLY SUGGESTION.
09:55:36 I APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS DO.
09:55:38 THANKS.
09:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:55:41 WHO ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK?
09:55:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE A RESPONSE FROM CHIEF BERCAW?
09:55:48 >> YES, THERE IS.
09:55:48 THAT IS ACTUALLY A GREAT SUGGESTION.
09:55:50 WE'RE WORKING ON THE EXTERNAL FACE AND IMPROVING THAT.
09:55:53 INTERNALLY WE USE PowerDMS, WHICH IS A VERY USER FRIENDLY
09:55:58 SEARCH DOCUMENT FOR ALL OUR POLICIES FOR THE OFFICERS, WHICH
09:56:02 HAS EASY ACCESS THROUGH THE LAPTOP OR THROUGH THEIR MOBILE
09:56:07 PHONE.
09:56:07 AND WE HAVE AN EXTERNAL LINK THAT WE JUST PAID FOR AN
09:56:12 UPGRADE ON AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING EXACTLY WHAT
09:56:14 YOU JUST SAID ON OUR EXTERNAL PUBLIC-FACING SITE.
09:56:17 THAT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS, AND THE OFFICERS INTERNALLY
09:56:21 NOW ALREADY HAVE A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM TO USE.
09:56:23 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEMONSTRATE IT FOR YOU ANYTIME.
09:56:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
09:56:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
09:56:28 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:56:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:30 ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
09:56:33 ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL?
09:56:35 I HEAR NONE.
09:56:40 I HEAR NO ONE.
09:56:41 ALL RIGHT.
09:56:43 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC?
09:56:50 ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED OR DISCUSSED, SAID,
09:56:54 PRESENTED, ANYTHING?
09:56:55 ALL RIGHT.
09:56:58 I HEAR SILENCE.
09:57:00 WELL, THERE IS SILENCE.
09:57:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:04 ANY OTHER PRESENTER?
09:57:06 ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING ON THIS?
09:57:08 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:57:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU PRESS THAT IN YOUR TONE, I THINK SINCE
09:57:18 WE HAVE THE ASSISTANT CHIEF ON THE LINE AND A LOT OF PUBLIC
09:57:20 COMMENT THIS MORNING, MAYBE HE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE
09:57:22 THINGS THAT THEY ARE SAYING AND MAYBE CLEAR UP SOME OF THE
09:57:27 MISCONCEPTIONS OR EVEN WHAT THE -- IT'S BETTER TO GET A
09:57:35 CLEAR ANSWER THAN NO ANSWER.
09:57:36 I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING
09:57:39 COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS.
09:57:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:57:42 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
09:57:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF CHIEF BERCAW CAN RESPOND TO ANYTHING,
09:57:51 WITH REFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHAT THE PUBLIC IS
09:57:54 THINKING.
09:57:55 IF NOT, THAT'S --
09:57:58 >> SURE.
09:57:59 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.
09:58:00 FOR THE RECORD, WE DO EMBRACE PRESIDENT OBAMA'S TASK FORCE
09:58:03 ON 21st CENTURY POLICING, AND WE DO HAVE EXTENSIVE
09:58:08 TRAINING IN OUR USE OF FORCE AND THE WAY THAT WE TREAT
09:58:12 PEOPLE.
09:58:12 OUR GOLDEN RULE IS TO TREAT EVERYBODY WITH DIGNITY AND
09:58:16 RESPECT.
09:58:17 AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT WE SUPPLY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE
09:58:20 JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN CITRO SAYS IS FOR CITIZENS TO COME TO
09:58:23 OUR CITIZENS ACADEMY AND SEE THESE SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING
09:58:27 THAT OUR OFFICERS GO THROUGH AND THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS
09:58:31 THEY LEARN.
09:58:32 THE SCENARIO TRAINING WE DO ON DE-ESCALATION, STARTED BEFORE
09:58:36 DE-ESCALATION WAS A HOT TOPIC.
09:58:39 WE'RE VERY INNOVATIVE.
09:58:40 THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE VERY PARTICULAR ON HOW WE FOLLOW
09:58:44 UP ON OUR USE OF FORCE.
09:58:46 WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR REVIEW, A MANAGEMENT REVIEW.
09:58:50 UNDER MAYOR CASTOR, WHEN SHE WAS THE POLICE CHIEF, SHE
09:58:53 CREATED A THIRD INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF OUR QUALITY ASSURANCE
09:58:56 UNIT.
09:58:57 AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO HAVE AN AUTOMATED
09:59:00 EARLY INTERVENTION PROGRAM ON USE OF FORCE WHERE THIS AGENCY
09:59:04 WAS ONE OF THE PIONEERS SEVERAL DECADES AGO.
09:59:09 WE CURRENTLY NOW ARE GETTING A TON OF FEEDBACK FROM THE
09:59:12 COMMUNITY IN ADAPTING AS THE COMMUNITY EVOLVES, WE'RE
09:59:17 EVOLVING.
09:59:17 I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR'S COMMUNITY TASK FORCE IS GETTING
09:59:20 READY TO COME OUT WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING
09:59:22 TO BE ALL EARS LISTENING AND READY TO RISE TO THAT OCCASION.
09:59:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:59:31 ANY RESPONSE TO THAT?
09:59:32 ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC?
09:59:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD SAY THANK YOU, CHIEF BERCAW, FOR
09:59:41 SHARING THOSE WITH THE PUBLIC.
09:59:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:43 ALL RIGHT.
09:59:47 WE WILL GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
09:59:49 OF COURSE, WE SAW EARLIER IN THE AGENDA THAT WE CONTINUED
09:59:52 ONE ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER 24th WORKSHOP.
09:59:56 SO WE GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:00:02 AND WHATNOT.
10:00:04 WE HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION ON THAT.
10:00:11 >>CAROLE POST: GOOD MORNING.
10:00:13 CAROLE POST HERE.
10:00:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
10:00:15 >>CAROLE POST: GOOD MORNING.
10:00:16 I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
10:00:20 OPPORTUNITY.
10:00:21 I'M JOINED THIS MORNING BY VANESSA McCLEARY, THE MANAGER
10:00:25 OF OUR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
10:00:27 AND THIS MORNING, WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT
10:00:30 ARE INTENDED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO SEVERAL RECENT COUNCIL
10:00:35 RESOLUTIONS.
10:00:36 I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL HAS HELPED ADJUST AND MOVE SOME OF
10:00:41 THESE RESOLUTIONS AROUND IN TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSE DATES SO
10:00:45 THAT THEY ALL COINCIDE HERE AND WE CAN PRESENT A
10:00:48 COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE.
10:00:50 AS SUCH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS PRESENT ONE
10:00:53 PRESENTATION THAT WOULD BE AN OVERALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:00:56 STRATEGY UPDATE.
10:00:57 THAT WILL BE RESPONSIVE TO FOUR SEPARATE BUT RELATED
10:01:01 RESOLUTIONS.
10:01:02 AND IT WILL ALSO GIVE THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AN
10:01:05 OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE ON THE MAYOR'S
10:01:10 AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.
10:01:13 THE SECOND PRESENTATION IS A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON THE
10:01:18 CITY'S URBAN INFILL PROJECT THAT COMMENCED IN 2018.
10:01:23 AND THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE RESPONSIVE TO A RECENT REQUEST
10:01:28 BY COUNCIL FOR AN UPDATE ON THE CONTRACT, BUT WE THOUGHT IT
10:01:32 WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNE TIME AS THAT PROGRAM IS WINDING DOWN
10:01:37 TO GIVE A STATE OF THE REPORT, IF YOU WILL, ACROSS THE
10:01:40 ENTIRE PROGRAM.
10:01:41 SO WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER, BUT I APPRECIATE IF YOU'LL
10:01:45 INDULGE US SOMEWHAT TO GIVE THESE COMPREHENSIVE
10:01:49 PRESENTATIONS.
10:01:49 EACH ONE WILL BE ABOUT 15 MINUTES, AND WE'LL TAKE A PAUSE
10:01:53 BETWEEN THEM SO THAT WE CAN INVITE FOR DISCUSSION AND
10:01:58 FEEDBACK.
10:01:58 BUT THAT'S OUR PLAN FOR THIS MORNING.
10:02:01 SO WE CAN JUMP RIGHT IN.
10:02:04 THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS AN UPDATE ON THE FOUR RESOLUTIONS
10:02:08 THAT WERE RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:02:12 AS I SAID, WE WANTED TO DIG A BIT DEEPER AND PROVIDE AN
10:02:15 OVERALL HOUSING AFFORDABILITY STRATEGY RESPONSE.
10:02:20 SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:02:21 THIS GIVES A SUMMARY OF THE FOUR RESOLUTIONS WE'LL BE
10:02:30 ADDRESSING THIS MORNING.
10:02:31 I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THEM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN
10:02:34 NOVEMBER OF 2019, THERE WERE MOTIONS MADE AROUND TOOLS THAT
10:02:38 COULD HELP THE CITY FUND RAISE TO DRIVE PRIVATE FUNDS AND
10:02:44 SUPPORT TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL AS AN INQUIRY
10:02:47 AROUND LAND BANKING AS A TOOL.
10:02:50 LATER IN DECEMBER, THERE WERE QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT OUR
10:02:54 INCENTIVE OPTIONS AND HOW THOSE DRIVE AND INFLUENCE
10:02:58 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:02:58 AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, THERE WAS A QUESTION AROUND ZONING FOR
10:03:02 SMALL LOTS.
10:03:03 THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT ALL OF THESE NOTIONS ARE ACTUALLY
10:03:07 INTEGRATED INTO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY.
10:03:11 SO AS WE PRESENT THE UPDATE ON THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY REPORT,
10:03:15 YOU'LL SEE THEM INTERWOVEN AND I'LL CALL THEM OUT AS WE GET
10:03:19 TO EACH ONE.
10:03:21 IN THE CONCLUSION, WE'LL BE RESPONSIVE TO EACH ONE.
10:03:25 NEXT SLIDE.
10:03:25 THE MAYOR'S HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ADVISORY REPORT WAS ISSUED
10:03:29 ON FEBRUARY 12th.
10:03:31 A NUMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE IN ATTENDANCE THAT
10:03:34 DAY.
10:03:34 I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST TIMES THAT WE WERE ALL ABLE
10:03:37 TO GATHER IN PUBLIC.
10:03:38 IT WAS A VERY PROUD MOMENT FOR US TO RELEASE THAT REPORT.
10:03:41 THE REPORT REFLECTED THE WORK OF ABOUT 20 MEMBERS OF OUR
10:03:45 COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT THAT WAS RECEIVED AS
10:03:49 WELL.
10:03:49 THAT GROUP WAS CO-CHAIRED BY BISHOP DR. TOM SCOTT, TYLER
10:03:54 HUDSON AND BEMETRA SIMMONS.
10:03:58 THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AT FACILITATING VERY ROBUST
10:04:01 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THE CITY COULD TACKLE ITS AFFORDABLE
10:04:03 HOUSING CHALLENGES.
10:04:04 YOU CAN SEE JUST AN OUTLINE HERE OF THE MAJOR OBJECTIVES
10:04:10 THAT WERE SET FORTH, AND WE INTEND TO PRESENT SOME DETAILS
10:04:14 ABOUT WHERE WE STAND WITH DELIVERING ON THOSE OBJECTIVES.
10:04:18 NEXT SLIDE.
10:04:18 I THINK YOU CAN JUMP FORWARD FROM THAT SLIDE AS WELL.
10:04:26 THANK YOU.
10:04:29 THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY TEAM AND THE REPORT IS -- ALL OF
10:04:34 THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
10:04:36 OBVIOUSLY, THE DETAIL, THE REPORT ITSELF IS ONLINE, BUT ALSO
10:04:40 THE MEETING MINUTES, THE AGENDAS, ALL OF THE MATERIALS THAT
10:04:45 COMPRISE AND DEVELOP INTO THE REPORT ARE ALL PART OF OUR
10:04:47 TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW WEBSITE.
10:04:51 IF ANYONE WANTS TO DELVE DEEPER INTO THIS, ALL THE
10:04:55 INFORMATION IS TRANSPARENTLY AVAILABLE.
10:04:57 WHAT THE REPORT RESULTED IN AT THE HIGH LEVEL WERE THREE KEY
10:05:01 SECTORS, IF YOU WILL, OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:05:03 THE DRIVERS AROUND THE HOUSING SUPPLY AND THE PROGRAMS THAT
10:05:06 DRIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, POLICY AND ALIGNMENT AND HOW WE
10:05:11 CAN INFLUENCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:05:15 AND THEN ALWAYS SORT OF A PRIORITY TO OUR EFFORTS IS THE
10:05:19 COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
10:05:22 WE'LL STEP THROUGH EACH ONE AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE
10:05:26 WE ARE.
10:05:27 NEXT SLIDE.
10:05:31 SO WE'LL START WITH TALKING ABOUT HOUSING SUPPLY AND
10:05:34 PROGRAMS.
10:05:35 IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR
10:05:37 THIS GROUP TO SAY, THAT THERE'S REALLY AT ITS MOST BASIC,
10:05:45 THAT DEMAND WAS OUTDRIVING SUPPLY.
10:05:48 SO IN ORDER TO CREATE A GREATER BALANCE, WE NEEDED TO TACKLE
10:05:54 WAYS TO INCREASE SUPPLY AND THE PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THAT.
10:05:57 SO THE REPORT REFLECTS AND THE ADVISORY TEAM SETTLED ON
10:06:01 HAVING -- WE WANTED TO HAVE A SINGULAR TARGET.
10:06:05 WE WANTED TO REALLY BE ABLE TO FRAME THIS RATHER THAN SAYING
10:06:07 WE JUST NEED SORT OF MORE HOUSING.
10:06:10 WELL, HOW MUCH HOUSING DO WE REALLY NEED?
10:06:12 THERE IS DATA IN THE REPORT THAT REFLECTS WHAT THE DRIVING
10:06:16 DEMAND IS AND SOME EMPIRICAL INFORMATION AROUND THAT.
10:06:21 AS THAT WAS ALL DIGESTED, THE TEAM SETTLED ON A TARGET OF
10:06:26 10,000 NEW HOUSING UNITS COMPLETED BY 2027.
10:06:30 AND I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF NOTES ABOUT THAT.
10:06:34 HOUSING UNIT COULD BE A SINGLE-FAMILY OR A RENTAL UNIT AND
10:06:38 VERY MUCH SO, OUR INTENTIONS ARE THAT THESE TARGETS ARE NOT
10:06:43 JUST ABOUT THE SUPPLY THAT THE CITY SOURCES.
10:06:47 AS WE KNOW, THE CITY IS A CONDUIT FOR FEDERAL FUNDS AND
10:06:52 OTHER SUPPORT FUNDS THAT HELP DRIVE THE ADDITION OF
10:06:56 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:06:56 BUT MORE AND MORE, THE PRIVATE MARKET IS ADDING TO THIS.
10:07:01 SO OUR TARGET IS INCLUSIVE OF BOTH OUR PUBLIC SECTOR
10:07:06 CONTRIBUTIONS AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR ADDITIONS.
10:07:08 AND WE FEEL THAT THE PATH THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE TO
10:07:13 INFLUENCE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL
10:07:18 DIRECTIONS THAT WE SEE AHEAD OF US.
10:07:20 TO BE ABLE TO GROW THESE NUMBERS, THE RATIONALE FOR THE
10:07:23 10,000 IS REALLY BASED ON SETTING AN ACHIEVABLE BUT AN
10:07:28 AMBITIOUS GOAL.
10:07:30 CURRENTLY, THE CITY PRODUCES OR OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS,
10:07:34 IS INVOLVED IN HELPING TO PRODUCE ABOUT 900 UNITS A YEAR.
10:07:38 AND THAT IS, AGAIN, AS A CONDUIT FOR FUNDS THAT FLOW THROUGH
10:07:43 THE CITY.
10:07:44 SO OUR DESIRE IS TO INCREASE THAT BY ABOUT 38%.
10:07:48 THAT WOULD ADD ABOUT 350 NEW UNITS A YEAR TO ACHIEVE THAT
10:07:54 10,000 ADDITIONAL BY 2027.
10:07:58 AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE CONTRIBUTED BY THE CITY INCREASING ITS
10:08:02 SUPPORT AND PROGRAMMING BUT ALSO RELYING ON THE PRIVATE
10:08:06 SECTOR TO JOIN ALONG WITH SOLVING THIS CHALLENGE.
10:08:10 NEXT SLIDE.
10:08:12 IN ADDITION TO ADDING NEW UNITS, THE GROUP VERY MUCH FOCUSED
10:08:17 ON THE MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION OF EXISTING HOUSING
10:08:21 UNITS.
10:08:23 AS YOU CAN SEE LIKEWISE, THERE WAS A TARGET SET TO ENSURE
10:08:26 THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT OUR RESOURCES TOWARD MAINTAINING AND
10:08:30 RESTORING UP TO A HUNDRED HOUSING UNITS ANNUALLY, LIKE THE
10:08:35 NEW UNIT TARGET THAT'S BASED ON THE WORK THAT IS ALREADY
10:08:39 DONE BUT PROVIDES A BIT OF A STRETCH.
10:08:42 ACHIEVABLE BUT AMBITIOUS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE UPPING THE
10:08:47 PRODUCTION ON OUR ASSISTANCE OUT TO OUR EXISTING SUPPLY.
10:08:52 SO WITH THAT SET AS OUR BENCHMARKS AND OUR TARGETS, WE
10:08:59 WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE STAND TODAY AND WHAT OUR
10:09:02 NEAR HORIZON LOOKS LIKE.
10:09:05 THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:09:06 I'LL TURN OVER TO VANESSA TO GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON HOW
10:09:12 WE -- STARTING TO HIT SOME OF THOSE TARGETS.
10:09:15 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO WHEN WE ARE DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE
10:09:17 HOUSING, WE USUALLY HAVE TO LAY A FOUNDATION, AND THERE IS
10:09:21 TIME THAT IT TAKES TO BRING UNITS ONLINE.
10:09:24 SO CURRENTLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS
10:09:29 TO PRODUCE BOTH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY.
10:09:34 SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH CDC, HABITAT AND EAST TAMPA
10:09:39 BUSINESS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:09:41 THEY ARE OUR CHDO ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY HOUSING
10:09:47 DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS.
10:09:49 YOU CAN SEE THERE THEY ARE PRODUCING ABOUT 34 HOMES THIS
10:09:54 YEAR.
10:09:55 IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THE INFILL HOUSING PROJECT AND WE'LL GO
10:09:58 MORE IN DETAIL THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
10:10:01 BUT THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED
10:10:04 WORKING WITH FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER.
10:10:09 WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE AT THE END OF THAT CONTRACT 96 NEW
10:10:13 HOMES WITHIN A TWO-YEAR PERIOD.
10:10:15 WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY DISPOSITION PROGRAM.
10:10:20 THAT'S WHERE WE ARE USING THE CURRENT CITY'S LAND BANK TO
10:10:24 PROVIDE LOTS FREE TO DEVELOPERS AS LONG AS THEY SELL THE
10:10:30 HOMES TO A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME FAMILY.
10:10:33 THAT ONE IS JUST REALLY STARTING TO GET ITS LEGS, AND WE ARE
10:10:39 WORKING WITH OUR REAL ESTATE DIVISION TO ACQUIRE MORE
10:10:41 PROPERTY TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM AND ALSO TO PUT THOSE LOTS
10:10:46 INTO A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO STAY
10:10:50 AFFORDABLE IN PERPETUITY.
10:10:52 IN TERMS OF MULTIFAMILY, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK IN
10:10:55 THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE THERE.
10:10:59 ALL BUT ONE IS IN THE WEST RIVER AREA.
10:11:02 WE WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WHEN THEY DEVELOPED
10:11:05 ENCORE FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, AND NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH
10:11:08 THEM ON THE WEST RIVER PROJECT.
10:11:13 THESE ONES THAT YOU SEE ON HERE WILL COME ONLINE.
10:11:17 SOME WILL BE THIS YEAR AND THEN THE OTHERS WILL BE NEXT
10:11:19 YEAR.
10:11:20 IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORKING WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO IS
10:11:24 GOING TO DO 102 UNITS OF SENIOR HOUSING IN EAST TAMPA.
10:11:28 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:11:32 SO AS WE ARE LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ONE OF THE
10:11:39 THINGS THAT THE REPORT CALLED FOR WAS THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT
10:11:43 INNOVATIVE PROJECTS.
10:11:45 SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, BUT
10:11:50 WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON A COUPLE OF PILOTS RIGHT NOW.
10:11:54 CONNIE BURTON HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES, AND SO
10:11:59 WE'VE HELPED HER TO IDENTIFY A LOT, AND WE'RE MOVING
10:12:02 FORWARD.
10:12:02 THAT IMAGE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE CONTAINER HOME THAT SHE
10:12:07 IS PLANNING TO PUT ON A LOT THAT WE'LL BE PROVIDING.
10:12:11 WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH ANOTHER GROUP TO DO A TINY HOME
10:12:16 PROJECT.
10:12:16 THESE ARE BOTH PILOTS BECAUSE AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS
10:12:21 PROCESS WITH THEM, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS
10:12:26 AND REGULATORY ISSUES THAT MAY ARISE SO WE CAN MAKE
10:12:30 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO MAKE THE PROCESS SMOOTHER
10:12:33 WHEN WE ROLL IT OUT AS A FULL NEW METHOD FOR PRODUCING
10:12:39 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:12:41 NEXT SLIDE.
10:12:49 >>CAROLE POST: THANKS, VANESSA.
10:12:51 YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE ALREADY,
10:12:53 WHICH IS VERY POSITIVE.
10:12:54 BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
10:12:57 SO OUR STRATEGY IS INTENDED TO TURN OVER EVERY ROCK,
10:13:00 LITERALLY, AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE MAKING HIGHEST AND BEST
10:13:04 USE OUT OF ALL OF OUR ASSETS.
10:13:06 SO ONE ADDITIONAL PART OF OUR STRATEGY IS TO REVISIT THE
10:13:10 HOUSING ASSETS -- OR THE REAL PROPERTY ASSETS THAT WE
10:13:15 CURRENTLY HOLD TITLE TO AND ASSESS HOW THEY COULD BE
10:13:19 REPURPOSED FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHALLENGE.
10:13:24 IN DOING THAT, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO -- ACTUALLY HAVE NOT
10:13:29 BEEN PREVIOUSLY DONE.
10:13:30 WE'VE MAPPED ALL OF OUR REAL ESTATE ASSETS SO THAT WE CAN
10:13:34 IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ARE, HOW THEY FACTOR INTO THE COMMUNITY
10:13:38 OR THE LOCATION THAT THEY ARE IN, WHAT THE ZONING IS, WHAT
10:13:41 THE SIZE AND DIMENSIONS OF EACH LOT AND EACH PARCEL ARE,
10:13:44 WHAT THEY ARE PROXIMATE TO AND SO ON.
10:13:48 AND A WIDE RANGE OF ASSESSMENTS THAT WILL ENABLE US TO
10:13:53 IDENTIFY THOSE THAT WOULD BE MOST SUITABLE FOR HOUSING
10:13:57 AFFORDABILITY PROJECTS.
10:13:59 AND WE THINK WITH SO MANY OF THESE THINGS, THERE'S NO ONE
10:14:02 SIZE FITS ALL.
10:14:03 SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO HAVE JUST A SINGULAR APPROACH TO HOW
10:14:07 WE USE THESE ASSETS, BUT RATHER BE SELECTIVE AND TARGETED
10:14:12 FOR WHAT EACH -- HOW EACH PARCEL IN EACH COMMUNITY AND
10:14:16 LITERALLY DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BEST SERVE IN ITS
10:14:20 LOCATION.
10:14:21 SO WE'RE REVISITING THAT NOTION.
10:14:25 AN ADDITIONAL LAYER IS REVISITING THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES THAT
10:14:30 EXIST ACROSS THE CITY.
10:14:31 THERE ARE 22 ZONES ACROSS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:14:34 THERE'S ONLY TWO OF THEM THAT HAVE REALLY BEEN TAPPED IN
10:14:37 EARNEST FOR THE BENEFIT THAT CAN BE DERIVED AS AN
10:14:41 OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
10:14:42 WE THINK THERE'S STILL MUCH MORE POTENTIAL.
10:14:44 I THINK YOU'RE HEARING A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS AS NEW
10:14:47 INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE SURFACING.
10:14:49 SO WE'D LIKE TO GET BACK INTO THE BUSINESS OF UNDERSTANDING
10:14:55 WHAT OPPORTUNITY ZONES LOOK LIKE, WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND
10:14:59 HOW WE COULD MARKET THEM FOR AN APPROPRIATE INVESTMENT THAT
10:15:02 CAN SERVE EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES.
10:15:05 AND THEN THE LAST PIECE FOR OUR HOUSING ASSET STRATEGY IS
10:15:09 REALLY REFOCUSING ON DRIVING INFILL HOUSING, AS VANESSA
10:15:13 REFERRED TO, WE HAD THE INFILL HOUSING PROGRAM WITH DOMAIN,
10:15:18 CDC AND HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
10:15:20 THAT WILL BE OUR SECOND PRESENTATION WHERE WE'LL GIVE A DEEP
10:15:24 DIVE ON HOW THAT PROGRAM UNFOLDED, WHAT RESULTS WE'VE SEEN,
10:15:29 AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO LEARN FROM IT MOVING FORWARD WITH
10:15:32 SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE PLAN.
10:15:35 LET ME TURN THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE'LL ADDRESS TWO OF THE FOUR
10:15:42 RESOLUTIONS MOVING FORWARD.
10:15:45 SO THOSE TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT SURFACED IN NOVEMBER HAD TO DO
10:15:49 WITH INQUIRIES AROUND PRIVATE FUND-RAISING AND LAND BANKING.
10:15:54 I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE VERY POSITIVE PROGRESS ON BOTH OF
10:15:58 THOSE.
10:15:59 JUST RECENTLY, WE ESTABLISHED A 501(C)(3) THAT WILL EXIST ON
10:16:06 BEHALF OF THE CITY TO BE PHILANTHROPIC ARM, AND IT WILL ALSO
10:16:11 SERVE TO GOVERN AND GUIDE THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WHICH
10:16:14 WILL ESSENTIALLY SERVE AS A LAND BANK IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW
10:16:18 THE REQUEST OR THE INQUIRY WAS MADE.
10:16:22 THE 501(C)(3) IS IN THE FORM OF ONE TAMPA.
10:16:25 YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT ONE TAMPA THESE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
10:16:28 IT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED AND BECAME THE MECHANISM THAT WE
10:16:31 USED TO ENABLE ALL OF OUR COVID RELIEF PROGRAMS.
10:16:39 THE NECESSITY OF DOING THAT WAS FORTUITOUS FOR US, IF
10:16:43 THERE'S ANY SILVER LININGS THAT COULD COME OUT OF COVID, WE
10:16:46 WERE ABLE TO SPIN THAT GROUP UP VERY QUICKLY AND THAT
10:16:49 ORGANIZATION, AND NOW HERE IT IS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO
10:16:54 REPURPOSE IT AND RETOOL IT SO THAT IT CAN BE A LONG-TERM
10:17:00 TOOL TO DRIVE PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND BE A PHILANTHROPIC ARM
10:17:07 FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
10:17:10 AS I SAID, IT WILL ALSO BE THE MECHANISM TO INITIATE AND
10:17:14 GOVERNOR THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, WHICH IS ON OUR NEAR
10:17:19 HORIZON AS WELL.
10:17:19 NEXT SLIDE.
10:17:24 I THINK YOU CAN SEE THERE THE ONE POINT NOT TO OVERLOOK IS
10:17:30 THAT OUR 501(C)(3) CAN ALSO BE A TOOL FOR EVEN FURTHER
10:17:35 LONGER TERM INITIATIVE SUCH AS A HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH
10:17:39 WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED IN OUR ADVISORY REPORT.
10:17:41 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL SEE DOWN THE FUTURE ROAD.
10:17:45 LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY LAND TRUST FOR A MOMENT.
10:17:49 COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IS A VERY COMMON TOOL USED ACROSS THE
10:17:53 COUNTRY.
10:17:54 IN MANY CASES, EXTREMELY SUCCESSFULLY, TO PROVIDE A
10:17:58 MECHANISM TO BOTH DRIVE AND INFLUENCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:18:02 DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO TO MAINTAIN IT AND ENSURE THAT IT
10:18:07 SUSTAINS AS AFFORDABLE OVER TIME.
10:18:09 THIS IS A VISUAL THAT REPRESENTS KIND OF HOW IT WORKS AND
10:18:12 WHY IT WORKS.
10:18:13 BUT THE UPSHOT, WITHOUT GETTING TOO INTO THE WEEDS, IS THAT
10:18:16 THE BUYERS OF THE HOME ARE PAYING FOR THE BUILDING.
10:18:21 THEY DO NOT PAY FOR THE UNDERLYING LAND.
10:18:23 THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST RETAINS TITLE TO ALL OF THE LAND
10:18:29 THAT IT HAS TITLE TO, AND IT CONVEYS THE PROPERTY THAT'S
10:18:32 SITTING ON THE LAND.
10:18:33 SO RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YOU TAKE OUT THE LAND COST, WHICH
10:18:37 REALLY DRIVES AFFORDABILITY TREMENDOUSLY.
10:18:40 SO THE BUYER BUYS THE BUILDING.
10:18:43 THE GOOD SIDE OF THIS IS THAT THE BUYER CAN LIVE IN, RESIDE,
10:18:46 ADAPT, MODIFY.
10:18:49 IT LOOKS AND FEELS JUST LIKE HOME OWNERSHIP, WHICH IS WHAT
10:18:52 YOU WANT TO HAVE AND TO PROVIDE THAT SENSE OF OWNER
10:18:55 OCCUPANCY RESPONSIBILITY.
10:18:57 THE CLT GOVERNS THAT.
10:19:00 THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO THAT.
10:19:04 MORE IMPORTANTLY, AT RESALE, THERE IS A FORMULA THAT APPLIES
10:19:07 TO THE PURCHASE AND SALE THAT ENABLES A BUYER TO YIELD A
10:19:12 RETURN SO THAT, AGAIN, YOU GET TO ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF HOME
10:19:16 OWNERSHIP, BUT IT HAS CAPS AND IT HAS SOME MAXIMUMS SO THAT
10:19:20 THE PARCELS CAN STAY, THE HOMES CAN STAY AFFORDABLE FOR
10:19:24 FUTURE BUYERS, TYPICALLY THROUGH A 99-YEAR GROUND LEASE.
10:19:27 AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
10:19:30 I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN BEGINNING TO REALLY BUILD
10:19:33 SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRITICAL MASS, AND MOST OF WHAT
10:19:38 YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT IN OUR NEXT PRESENTATION HAS SIMILAR SALE
10:19:43 AND INCOME RESTRICTIONS, BUT AT SOME POINT, THOSE
10:19:46 RESTRICTIONS FALL AWAY.
10:19:48 AND AS NEIGHBORHOODS ARE RISING, WHICH IS A POSITIVE THING,
10:19:51 THE LAND VALUES AND THE PROPERTY VALUES START TO RISE.
10:19:54 SUDDENLY WHAT WAS AFFORDABLE BECOMES NO LONGER AFFORDABLE.
10:19:59 AND THAT IS THE EPIDEMIC PROBLEM IS HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE
10:20:03 AFFORDABILITY OVER TIME?
10:20:05 THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS HAVE REALLY PROVEN TO
10:20:08 BE SUCCESSFUL.
10:20:10 NEXT SLIDE.
10:20:11 AS I SAID, WE RECOGNIZE AND THE ADVISORY TEAM RECOGNIZE THAT
10:20:17 THESE COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS ARE NOT SOMETHING NEW.
10:20:20 UNFORTUNATELY, TAMPA IS NOT GOING TO BE TRAILBLAZING HERE,
10:20:24 BUT THEY ARE PROVEN, AND I'LL LET VANESSA SPEAK BRIEFLY
10:20:29 ABOUT EXPERIENCES SHE'S HAD WITH THEM ACROSS WITH OUR
10:20:32 NEIGHBORS AND AROUND THE COUNTRY.
10:20:34 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, LIKE SHE WAS
10:20:39 SAYING, HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
10:20:40 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST ONE WAS IN ALBANY, GEORGIA, 50
10:20:44 YEARS AGO.
10:20:44 WHEN I WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA, WHICH WAS OVER 15 YEARS AGO,
10:20:50 COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS WERE BEING USED THERE TO HELP HOUSE
10:20:54 THE HOMELESS AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:21:00 THEY ARE AN ALTERNATIVE TO RENTING.
10:21:03 THEY ARE NOT AN ALTERNATIVE TO HOME OWNERSHIP.
10:21:05 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THIS IS TO HELP DRIVE DOWN THE
10:21:09 COST TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE TO RENTERS.
10:21:13 BUT ANYBODY THAT CAN AFFORD TO PURCHASE A HOME ON THE MARKET
10:21:17 SHOULD REALLY GO THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL HOME OWNERSHIP
10:21:20 ROUTE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THESE KIND OF RESTRICTIONS.
10:21:24 THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE A VERY
10:21:28 VALUABLE ONE IN OUR TOOLBOX, LIKE WHAT CAROL WAS SAYING,
10:21:32 BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THESE RISING COSTS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE
10:21:35 SURE THAT THERE ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGHOUT
10:21:39 THE CITY.
10:21:39 SO WE WILL BE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY THAT IS NEAR TO
10:21:45 TRANSPORTATION HUBS, THAT WE CAN TURN INTO -- WE CAN ADD TO
10:21:49 THE LAND TRUST, SO THAT PLACE WILL ALWAYS BE AFFORDABLE, AND
10:21:54 WE CAN MIX UP THE INCOME THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
10:21:57 AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE THAT LAND TRUSTS ARE --
10:22:02 THERE ARE 21 LAND TRUSTS IN FLORIDA.
10:22:07 BRIGHT COMMUNITY TRUST, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MORE FAMILIAR
10:22:10 ONES IN OUR AREA, IN PINELLAS COUNTY.
10:22:14 HANNIBAL SQUARE AND THE NEWEST ONE IS THE REGIONAL HOUSING
10:22:17 TRUST IN ORLANDO.
10:22:18 SO THEY ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER.
10:22:22 WE'RE NOT BLAZING A TRAIL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BETTER.
10:22:28 >>CAROLE POST: YES, FOR SURE.
10:22:29 THANK YOU, VANESSA.
10:22:30 NEXT SLIDE.
10:22:31 WE'LL MOVE ON.
10:22:32 YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF TOOLS THAT WE'RE PUTTING
10:22:34 IN THE TOOL KIT FOR ADDING UNITS AND MAINTAINING UNITS AND
10:22:38 THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX SOMEWHAT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE
10:22:41 NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR POLICIES AND OUR PROTOCOLS HERE
10:22:46 ALIGN TO SUPPORT THAT AGENDA.
10:22:49 SO NEXT SLIDE.
10:22:50 ONE OF THE MAJOR ASPECTS OF THE ADVISORY TEAM'S
10:22:53 RECOMMENDATIONS HAD TO DO WITH POLICY ALIGNMENT.
10:22:56 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CODE AND ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
10:22:59 ARE SET FORTH IN THE REPORT.
10:23:02 I'VE SUMMARIZED SOME OF THEM HERE.
10:23:03 AND WE WON'T GO INTO THESE DETAILS.
10:23:05 BUT THESE ARE ALL EFFORTS THAT NOW WE ARE WORKING ON ACROSS
10:23:08 OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM, OUR LEGAL TEAM AND
10:23:12 OTHERS.
10:23:13 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE HAS BECOME A BIG PLAYER IN
10:23:15 THIS AS WELL, WHERE MOBILITY, TRANSPORTATION, IT SORT OF
10:23:19 TOUCHES EVERYBODY.
10:23:20 YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE A HARMONY BETWEEN
10:23:26 WHAT OUR CODE AND ZONING PROVISIONS ARE, AND THAT THEY
10:23:31 SUPPORT AND DRIVE AND POSITIVELY INFLUENCE THE DEVELOPMENT
10:23:35 OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:23:39 SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH DENSITY AND SOME OF THESE MATTERS
10:23:41 WILL ACTUALLY COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN THE COMING MONTHS.
10:23:45 WE HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP THAT WE'LL BE
10:23:49 DISCUSSING SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AROUND CHANGES TO OUR
10:23:51 ZONING THAT WILL HELP INFLUENCE, POSITIVELY INFLUENCE
10:23:54 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:23:55 WE'VE OFTEN HEARD HOW THE COST OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN BE
10:23:58 DRIVEN BY SOME OF THE PERIPHERAL SUPPORTS LIKE PARKING AND
10:24:03 OTHER MATTERS, IMPACT FEES AND THE LIKE, ALL OF WHICH TO A
10:24:07 LARGE EXTENT, WE CAN CONTROL AND INFLUENCE AND CERTAINLY
10:24:10 WITH THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT AND INPUT, WE CAN HELP SHAPE A
10:24:16 CODE, FORUM THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
10:24:22 ACHIEVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:24:24 NEXT SLIDE.
10:24:25 ONE THING IN PARTICULAR THAT WE DID WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS
10:24:31 MORNING WAS AROUND THE INCENTIVE OPTIONS.
10:24:33 IT WAS, AGAIN, ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WAS PASSED IN
10:24:37 DECEMBER.
10:24:39 INQUIRING AROUND HOW OUR INCENTIVE OPTIONS INFLUENCE AND
10:24:43 WHETHER THEY ARE WORKING OR NOT WORKING.
10:24:44 WE'VE ALREADY DUG INTO THAT PRE-ACTIVELY.
10:24:48 I'LL LET VANESSA SHARE WITH YOU WHERE WE ARE REEXAMINING HOW
10:24:53 OUR INCENTIVE OPTIONS ARE DRIVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:24:58 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: WORKING WITH MY COUNTERPARTS IN PLANNING
10:25:00 AND DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE INCENTIVES THAT
10:25:02 CURRENTLY EXIST AND HOW TO STRENGTHEN THE USE OF THEM FOR
10:25:08 SUPPORTABLE HOUSING.
10:25:11 ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS CREATING A
10:25:14 STAND-ALONE PROVISION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:25:17 SO WE'RE DEFINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO IT'S CLEAR TO
10:25:20 EVERYONE.
10:25:22 WE'RE WORKING ON MATERIALS THAT WILL HELP THE PUBLIC TO
10:25:25 UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACCESS THESE DIFFERENT INCENTIVES.
10:25:29 AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE INCENTIVES.
10:25:32 SO WHEN WE ALLOW FOR DENSITY BONUSES, MAKING SURE THAT WE
10:25:37 PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S USING THOSE BONUSES
10:25:40 SO THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL UNITS ARE MADE AFFORDABLE TO LOW
10:25:46 AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES.
10:25:49 THE SAME THING WITH THE REDUCING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
10:25:53 AND THEN SOME NEW THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THESE ARE
10:25:57 RECOMMENDATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT LOOKING
10:26:00 AT ON INFILL PROPERTIES, WE DO SIDEWALKS THAT DON'T GO
10:26:06 ANYWHERE.
10:26:06 AND PUTTING IN THOSE SIDEWALKS CAN BE AN ADDITIONAL COST,
10:26:10 AND IT ALSO ISN'T VERY ATTRACTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN
10:26:15 THE OTHER SIDES OF THE PROPERTY DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
10:26:18 SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT AS A WAIVER TO HELP REDUCE COSTS.
10:26:22 ALSO LOOKING AT THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE ON SOME OF
10:26:25 THESE BLOCKS THERE'S MAYBE ONE OR TWO HOMES, AND YOU PUT THE
10:26:29 INFILL AND DEPENDING ON THAT SETBACK, IT DETERMINES THE SIZE
10:26:33 OF THE HOUSE.
10:26:35 AND SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN DO SOME MODIFICATIONS
10:26:38 THERE.
10:26:39 AND THEN ONE OF THE BIG COSTS THAT WE HEAR WHEN IT COMES TO
10:26:43 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE COST OF TREES.
10:26:45 WE HAVE THESE VACANT LOTS WHERE TREES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO
10:26:48 GROW UP OVER THE YEARS.
10:26:50 AND WHEN YOU TAKE THEM OUT TO BUILD THE HOMES, WE HAD ONE
10:26:53 PROJECT WHERE THE COST OF THE TREES WAS OVER $50,000.
10:26:58 WELL, THAT'S $50,000 IF THEY DIDN'T PUT IT TOWARDS THE TREES
10:27:02 WOULD MAKE THE HOME AFFORDABLE.
10:27:05 SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN GET CREATIVE WITH INCENTIVES
10:27:10 THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MORE
10:27:15 FEASIBLE.
10:27:16 THE COST HAS TO BE COVERED SOMEHOW.
10:27:19 AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GRANT DOLLARS TO DO THAT.
10:27:23 AND THEN AS WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, THESE ARE -- WE'VE
10:27:29 BEEN LOOKING AT THE ZONING AND SMALL LOTS, SO REAL ESTATE
10:27:37 PROVIDED US WITH A LIST OF ECONOMIC REMAINDER PROPERTIES,
10:27:41 WHICH ARE SMALL LOTS LEFT OVER FROM WHEN WE DID RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:27:45 ACQUISITION.
10:27:47 AND THE PAGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW, ONE OF THEM IS A
10:27:49 LARGE PROPERTY THAT WE ACQUIRED, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A
10:27:53 TINY HOME VILLAGE.
10:27:54 THE REASON FOR DOING A TINY HOME VILLAGE ON THAT LOCATION IS
10:27:57 BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES ON THAT PROPERTY.
10:28:01 REMOVING THOSE TREES WOULD BE COST-PROHIBITIVE.
10:28:04 IT'S ALSO A VERY BEAUTIFUL LOT WITH THE TREES.
10:28:07 WITH THE TINY HOMES, WE CAN DO A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WITH
10:28:11 MULTIPLE TINY HOMES THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR RENTAL.
10:28:17 AND THEN THE OTHER LOT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THAT IS THE
10:28:20 ONE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH CONNIE BURTON ON, AND THAT
10:28:24 WOULD BE THE PILOT CONTAINER HOME PROPERTY.
10:28:27 YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL TREE AND BY BEING
10:28:31 ABLE TO USE THIS NONTRADITIONAL HOME, IT ALLOWS US TO FIT IT
10:28:37 ON THE LOT AND STILL MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
10:28:47 >>CAROLE POST: NEXT SLIDE.
10:28:48 WITH RESPECT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CHANGES, THAT
10:28:51 GIVES YOU A BIT OF A WINDOW INTO THOSE MATTERS THAT
10:28:55 CONCERNED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:28:56 BUT LDC REQUEST SURFACE -- TWO OTHER ADVISORY REPORTS,
10:29:03 TRANSPORTATION AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
10:29:04 AND AS SUCH, THEY JOINED A NUMBER OF OTHER REQUESTS
10:29:10 CONCERNING UPDATING AND REFRESHING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT
10:29:12 CODE.
10:29:13 I THINK I'VE SPOKEN WITH MOST ALL OF YOU NOW TO KNOW THAT WE
10:29:18 HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT AT ALIGNING
10:29:22 ALL OF THE VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE SURFACED OVER
10:29:26 THE PAST NOW ALMOST YEAR, AND ALIGNING THOSE TOGETHER WITH
10:29:31 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR SOME TIME BY STAFF,
10:29:35 OTHERS THAT HAVE SURFACED BY CITY COUNCIL OVER THE RECENT
10:29:39 PAST AND SOME FURTHER BACK.
10:29:41 AND WANTING TO APPROACH IT IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY.
10:29:44 SO WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH GINA GRIMES' OFFICE AND
10:29:47 OTHERS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE TAKING A VERY PROCESS-ORIENTED
10:29:53 APPROACH TO DO THIS SO THAT WE ARE APPROACHING IT IN A
10:29:59 HARMONIOUS WAY THAT WILL BE COMPREHENSIVE.
10:30:03 I JUST MENTION THIS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PHASED APPROACH.
10:30:07 THE IDEA IS OBVIOUSLY TO SORT OF START WITH SOME OF THE
10:30:10 SIMPLE THINGS THAT MAKES SENSE TO EVERYONE.
10:30:13 WE KNOW THAT LDC MATTERS CAN BE VERY SENSITIVE AND
10:30:16 CONTROVERSIAL AND SORT OF NO RIGHT ANSWER OFTEN, BUT IN SOME
10:30:20 CASES IT IS.
10:30:21 LIKE WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, A CODE SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
10:30:24 IN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS, AND SOMETIMES IT'S CALENDAR
10:30:28 DAYS AND SOMETIMES IT'S BUSINESS DAYS, AND SOME OF THOSE
10:30:30 THINGS WE CAN UNIFY AND SIMPLIFY.
10:30:33 NOT TO GET TOO INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT COMING IN THE
10:30:37 FALL, WE GOT A BIT DELAYED BECAUSE OF COVID AND SOME OF THE
10:30:40 COUNCIL MEETINGS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, GETTING SHIFTED.
10:30:43 BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN THE FALL WITH WHAT WE'VE PUT
10:30:45 TOGETHER AS PHASE ONE RELATIVELY MAINSTREAM, IF YOU WILL, A
10:30:53 SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, ABOUT NINE OR TEN THAT WILL HELP TO
10:30:57 SIMPLIFY AND UNIFY SOME OF THE CODE REFERENCES AND THEN SOME
10:31:02 OF WHAT VANESSA JUST REFERRED TO AND OTHER MORE SUBSTANTIVE
10:31:06 CHANGES WILL COME FORWARD IN FUTURE PHASES, ALL OF WHICH
10:31:10 WILL BE DONE WITH A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PROCESS AND
10:31:13 OUTREACH TO ENABLE INPUT BEFORE WE GET TO FINAL
10:31:17 RECOMMENDATION.
10:31:20 NEXT SLIDE.
10:31:21 ONE OTHER COMPONENT IS THAT NONE OF THIS CAN HAPPEN IN A
10:31:26 VACUUM.
10:31:26 AND CERTAINLY, THE CITY COUNCIL IS OUR PRIMARY PARTNER IN
10:31:30 DRIVING LDC CHANGES, BUT THERE ARE OTHER PARTNERS.
10:31:33 WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE
10:31:37 PLANNING COMMISSION, MPO AND OTHERS, AND THEN THAT'S
10:31:40 RELATIVE TO ANY LDC CHANGES, BUT RELATIVE TO THE HOUSING
10:31:46 AFFORDABILITY CHANGES AND OUR PROGRESS AND STRATEGY,
10:31:51 CERTAINLY AHAC IS ACTIVELY, VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED.
10:31:55 AND THEN JUST TO REFERENCE THAT, THE CARES ACT AND SOME OF
10:31:59 THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF
10:32:03 HOMELESSNESS, EVICTION THREATS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE
10:32:07 SOMEWHAT SHAPING OUR STRATEGY.
10:32:10 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET US OFF COURSE.
10:32:14 OUR ESSENTIAL STRATEGY REMAINS INTACT, BUT IT GOES WITHOUT
10:32:17 SAYING THAT THAT HAS CREATED A NEW CHALLENGE FOR US, IN
10:32:21 WHICH CASE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE DIVERTING MUCH OF OUR
10:32:24 RESOURCES AND TIME TO ENSURE THAT THOSE IMMEDIATE AND
10:32:27 EMERGENCY NEEDS ARE SHORED UP.
10:32:29 NEXT SLIDE AND LAST CHAPTER IS AROUND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
10:32:36 ENGAGEMENT.
10:32:37 NEXT SLIDE, VANESSA AND HER TEAM, THEY ARE EXTRAORDINARY.
10:32:42 THEY DO THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THIS.
10:32:43 I WILL LET HER CLOSE US OUT WITH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF
10:32:48 THE IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE TO INCREASE ENGAGEMENT AND
10:32:53 OUTREACH TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SIMPLIFYING WHAT IT TAKES TO
10:32:58 TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS.
10:33:00 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW IS THAT WE
10:33:05 HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PROGRAMS, BUT IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T
10:33:09 KNOW ABOUT THEM IT DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING.
10:33:11 SO WE HAVE BEEN EXPANDING OUR OUTREACH.
10:33:16 YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE HAVING THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE FAIRS,
10:33:19 WHICH WERE VERY POPULAR.
10:33:21 UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE BEEN CUT BECAUSE OF COVID.
10:33:23 SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR ONLINE PRESENCE.
10:33:27 WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO UPGRADE OUR WEBSITE.
10:33:30 WE ARE CREATING HOW-TO VIDEOS THAT SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO
10:33:35 ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR OUR
10:33:37 PROGRAMS.
10:33:37 WE'VE EXPANDED OUR OUTREACH TO THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND TO
10:33:43 OTHERS.
10:33:44 WE'RE USING THE RADIO MORE.
10:33:48 WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING THE PROGRAMS THAT THE HOUSING
10:33:53 COUNSELING AGENCY PROVIDE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE
10:33:57 DIFFERENT HOURS, DIFFERENT METHODS, THAT THEY CAN BE REACHED
10:34:00 SO THAT THEY CAN ASSIST FAMILIES.
10:34:05 AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE RELIEF EFFORTS AND DOING THE
10:34:08 RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, WE'VE USED THE
10:34:12 HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES TO NOT ONLY PROCESS THOSE
10:34:14 APPLICATIONS, BUT THROUGH THAT, THEY ARE MAKING CONNECTIONS
10:34:17 WITH FAMILIES TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.
10:34:22 NEXT SLIDE.
10:34:23 SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT RESTRUCTURING OUR DIVISION TO MAKE
10:34:36 SURE THAT WE CAN MEET THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
10:34:39 LIKE I SAID, WE ARE REDESIGNING THE WEBSITE, MAKING IT MORE
10:34:45 USER FRIENDLY, ADDING MORE PICTURES AND DIAGRAMS AND VIDEOS.
10:34:49 WE ALSO STARTED CONNECTING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
10:34:53 WE HAD THE VIRTUAL CONTRACTOR EVENT WHERE WE WERE REACHING
10:35:00 OUT TO CONSTRUCTION -- THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TO MAKE
10:35:03 THEM AWARE OF HOW THEY CAN GET INVOLVED WITH AFFORDABLE
10:35:06 HOUSING, THAT IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO JUST BE STROKING
10:35:11 A CHECK, BUT THEY COULD LEND THEIR BUYING POWER.
10:35:14 THEY COULD ASSIST WITH PROVIDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE,
10:35:17 LABOR, AND ALSO WITH FUNDING.
10:35:21 SO THAT EVENT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
10:35:25 WE HAD MORE PEOPLE SIGNING UP FOR IT THAN WE HAD SPACE ON
10:35:29 OUR ZOOM WINDOW, SO WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THAT AGAIN.
10:35:37 WE'LL PROBABLY DO THOSE EVENTS QUARTERLY.
10:35:40 AND THEN WE ARE JUST STARTING TO INTRODUCE OUR BUSINESS AND
10:35:44 COFFEE.
10:35:44 THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WITH
10:35:47 OUR HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW
10:35:52 THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP THEIR EMPLOYEES.
10:35:54 AND THROUGH THIS, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE WILL ENGAGE THE
10:35:57 BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN AFFORDABLE
10:35:59 HOUSING.
10:36:01 NEXT SLIDE.
10:36:02 WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING OUR -- NEXT -- EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS
10:36:10 BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT AS THESE PRICES ARE RISING, WE DON'T
10:36:14 WANT TO LOSE ANY OF OUR LEGACY RESIDENTS, AND WE WANT TO
10:36:18 MITIGATE GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT.
10:36:21 SO WE HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
10:36:25 AND THE STORMWATER HARDSHIP, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE
10:36:30 PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND TAX ASSESSOR TO PUT ON
10:36:34 WORKSHOPS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT OUR HOMEOWNERS, DIFFERENT
10:36:39 DISCOUNTS THAT THEY CAN GET ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
10:36:43 WE HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH ESTATE PROPERTIES AND FOLKS NOT
10:36:49 KNOWING HOW TO PROPERLY TRANSFER.
10:36:52 SO WE'RE WORKING WITH STETSON UNIVERSITY TO DEVELOP SOME
10:36:55 WILL AND ESTATE PLANNING CLASSES.
10:36:58 OUR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM, WE ADDED TO THAT SO THAT
10:37:03 NOW IF A HOME IS BEYOND WHAT CAN BE REPAIRED, WE ACTUALLY
10:37:07 HAVE A REPLACEMENT HOUSING OPTION THAT WE WILL BE ROLLING
10:37:10 OUT HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH WE WILL START ON THAT PROGRAM.
10:37:15 AND THEN THROUGH OUR HUMAN RIGHTS OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING TO
10:37:21 UPDATE THE ORDINANCE ADDING INCOME AS A PROTECTED CLASS AND
10:37:25 CLARIFYING THE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES.
10:37:30 NEXT SLIDE.
10:37:31 SO WITH ALL OF THIS, AND LIKE I SAID, WITH OUR WEBSITE,
10:37:36 WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND
10:37:41 ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:37:42 SO WE WILL CREATE DASH BOARDS THAT WILL SHOW WHAT FUNDING IS
10:37:46 AVAILABLE, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN PROCESSED, WHAT
10:37:50 AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS
10:37:53 WE HEAR IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE THERE ARE UNITS
10:37:57 AVAILABLE.
10:37:58 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE.
10:38:01 THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, WE WILL HAVE NOT ONLY THE PROJECTS THAT
10:38:04 ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT ONES THAT WE KNOW ARE
10:38:09 COMING AND WILL BE HIGHLIGHTING THOSE ON THE WEBSITE.
10:38:17 >>CAROLE POST: I THINK THAT'S IT.
10:38:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:22 AND THANK YOU, VANESSA.
10:38:24 SHE DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB.
10:38:25 I APPRECIATE YOU INDULGING US FOR A BIT OF A MORE LENGTHY
10:38:29 CONVERSATION, BUT HOPEFULLY IT COVERED A LOT OF GROUND.
10:38:32 SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:38:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA.
10:38:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:38:41 DID I HEAR COUNCILMAN CITRO OR DINGFELDER AS WELL?
10:38:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.
10:38:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GUDES.
10:38:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO MIRANDA, CITRO, DINGFELDER, AND
10:38:52 THEN GUDES.
10:38:53 I'M TRYING TO GO DOWN THE LINE IN MY MIND.
10:38:56 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:38:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:38:59 APPRECIATE IT.
10:38:59 THANK YOU BOTH TO VANESSA AND CAROLE FOR AN IN-DEPTH REPORT.
10:39:06 THERE ARE SO MANY SLIDES IT'S ALMOST NOT FAIR TO COMMENT
10:39:09 BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF WORK YOU-ALL HAVE DONE IS
10:39:11 UNBELIEVABLE.
10:39:12 HOWEVER, I'M LOOKING AT ONE PART OF IT AND THE REVIEW INFILL
10:39:17 AGREEMENT.
10:39:19 I'M LOOKING AT THE COST OF HOUSING, IN 2014 TO 2017, OVER A
10:39:24 FOUR-YEAR PERIOD, AS I LOOK AT THE NEHEMIAH PROJECT PHASE
10:39:28 ONE, THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS 90,000.
10:39:31 IN 2015, BEACON HOMES THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE 165.
10:39:42 >>CAROLE POST: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, PARDON THE INTERRUPTION,
10:39:45 BUT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THAT PRESENTATION YET.
10:39:48 THAT'S THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
10:39:50 IF YOU COULD RESERVE YOUR INQUIRY, WE CERTAINLY COULD COVER
10:39:55 THAT.
10:39:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL GO TO THE OTHER ONE.
10:39:57 I APOLOGIZE.
10:39:58 LIKE I SAID, THERE WERE SO MANY.
10:40:04 YOU'VE DONE FIVE YEARS' WORK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
10:40:07 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE CONCEPT -- MAYBE I WAS INCORRECT,
10:40:13 WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SOMEONE TO BUY.
10:40:18 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS THAT YOU'VE DONE.
10:40:20 LOOKING AT PAGE 9 OF THE Q & A, WE'RE LOOKING AT CERTAINLY
10:40:27 THE CITY HAD A SUPPORTIVE ROLE.
10:40:32 WHAT THE TAMPA HOUSING DID -- [AUDIO BREAKS UP] -- AND MAIN
10:40:37 AREA, MAIN STREET.
10:40:38 AND THOSE WERE, I BELIEVE, 740 RENTAL UNITS, WHICH IS GREAT,
10:40:42 AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY BEING PARTNERS WITH TAMPA
10:40:49 HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:40:50 I'M LOOKING THEN AT THE SAME PAGE ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY
10:40:53 PROJECTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND DIFFERENT, ONE, TWO,
10:40:57 THREE, FOUR, FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INFILL PROJECTS THAT WE
10:41:00 GOT INVOLVED IN, TOTALED 136 UNITS.
10:41:04 AND I'M A LITTLE -- NOT AT ALL DISTURBED.
10:41:10 I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE PREPONDERANCE OF THIS ONE
10:41:15 ANYWAY, IT'S ALMOST FIVE AND A HALF TO ONE RENTAL VERSUS
10:41:18 HOUSING UNITS.
10:41:19 THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER WHEN CAMPAIGNING, MOST
10:41:26 OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL REGARDING
10:41:29 AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS HOUSING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUY.
10:41:32 AND THAT'S WHERE I'M LEADING INTO.
10:41:34 YOU ALL MENTIONED THE TINY HOMES, BECAUSE OF TREES AND OTHER
10:41:41 THINGS, ARE CERTAINLY CONDUCIVE TO THAT ONE BLOCK OR
10:41:45 WHATEVER AMOUNT OF LAND IT IS.
10:41:46 THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHAT IS THE COST PER SQUARE
10:41:50 FOOT, A METAL TINY HOME BEING PUT OR REGULAR HOME OR SMALL
10:41:57 HOME BEING BUILT WITH THE CONVENTIONAL METHOD OF BLOCKS AND
10:42:01 WOOD.
10:42:02 AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE, WHAT
10:42:05 THE COSTS ARE PER SQUARE FOOT.
10:42:07 WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, ANYWAY I DO, I DON'T BUY
10:42:12 BY THE PRICE.
10:42:13 I BUY BY THE OUNCE, WHICH TELLS YOU THE AMOUNT OF PRICE,
10:42:16 WHICH GIVES YOU THE BEST VALUE FOR YOUR DOLLAR.
10:42:18 I IMAGINE YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING IN THIS AREA HERE.
10:42:21 SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WHAT'S THE COST INVOLVED.
10:42:25 I'LL HOLD MY OTHER REFERENCES TO WHEN WE GET TO THE WORK
10:42:28 THAT WE'VE DONE AND WORK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DO IN
10:42:31 BUYING OF THE HOME AND WHAT THE LAND COST AND WHAT THE HOME
10:42:34 IS, AND WHAT IS AFFORDABLE AND WHAT IS NOT.
10:42:38 THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE THAT I'M ASKING MYSELF.
10:42:44 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN TERMS OF -- COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES
10:42:48 AND ORANGES TO ORANGES.
10:42:49 SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT, IT'S
10:42:54 NOT REALLY THE BEST WAY TO BUY A HOME BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT
10:42:58 A TINY HOME, THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT TENDS TO BE A LOT
10:43:02 HIGHER THAN A FULL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
10:43:06 AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO BUY ACCORDING TO THE PRICE, MORE SO
10:43:13 ACCORDING TO THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT.
10:43:15 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICES SHOWING YOU ON THAT ONE SLIDE
10:43:20 -- AND WE'LL GET BACK TO IT -- THERE'S USUALLY SOME SORT OF
10:43:23 SUBSIDY.
10:43:26 SO THERE'S DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT
10:43:28 MAKES THAT HOME AFFORDABLE WHILE MAKING SURE THAT THE
10:43:33 PROPERTY VALUES WITHIN THE AREA STAY WHERE THEY SHOULD SO
10:43:38 WE'RE NOT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTING COMMUNITIES.
10:43:43 THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD.
10:43:47 AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES, IN TERMS OF
10:43:50 SINGLE-FAMILY, THOSE ARE THE ONES WHERE WE HAVE FUNDING IN
10:43:53 THOSE PROJECTS.
10:43:54 THERE ARE STILL QUITE A FEW AFFORDABLE HOMES THAT WERE SOLD
10:43:59 WHERE WE PROVIDED DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
10:44:02 THIS IS WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY SUPPORTING THE CONSTRUCTION.
10:44:05 WE DO A LOT IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING THE PURCHASE OF HOMES AS
10:44:09 WELL THAT'S NOT COUNTED HERE.
10:44:11 BUT I COULD BRING THAT BACK AT ANOTHER TIME.
10:44:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT PART.
10:44:20 THEN SQUARE FOOTAGE DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING BY THE PRICE OF
10:44:23 THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE.
10:44:25 NOT ON A SQUARE FOOT, BUT ON THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE?
10:44:30 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: IT DOES, BUT THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT
10:44:32 ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT AMENITIES.
10:44:35 SO SOMEONE WANTS GRANITE COUNTER TOPS AND THEY WANT FANCY
10:44:39 FIXTURES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
10:44:41 IT'S REALLY WHAT CAN SOMEONE AFFORD AND WHAT DOES SOMEONE
10:44:44 WANT TO BUY.
10:44:46 ARE YOU INTERESTED IN A TINY HOME?
10:44:48 THEN THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU BUY.
10:44:49 IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE SINGLE-FAMILY THAT HAS SOME OF
10:44:51 THESE DIFFERENT AMENITIES, PEOPLE ARE BUYING ON WHAT THEY
10:44:57 NEED AS WELL AS THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT.
10:45:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
10:45:03 I IMAGINE SOMEONE MARRIED, THREE, FOUR KIDS IS NOT GOING TO
10:45:07 BUY A ONE-BEDROOM HOUSE.
10:45:09 I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:45:10 THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO, SOMEBODY WITH NO KIDS
10:45:13 DOESN'T WANT A SIX BEDROOM HOUSE.
10:45:15 I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:45:16 BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT BASED ON THE
10:45:19 VALUE OF THE NEED OF THE PERSON WHO IS MAKING THE
10:45:21 APPLICATION TO BUY A HOME.
10:45:26 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A MUCH
10:45:28 LONGER DISCUSSION.
10:45:30 SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BY AND WE CAN GO INTO SOME MORE
10:45:35 DETAIL.
10:45:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT.
10:45:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:39 NEXT UP, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, THEN DINGFELDER,
10:45:42 GUDES AND WHOMEVER WISHES TO SPEAK.
10:45:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:45:48 MS. POST, I CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON THIS REPORT.
10:45:51 YOU'VE DONE VERY WELL.
10:45:52 JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND THEN TWO QUESTIONS.
10:45:54 I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR
10:45:58 ZONING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SMALLER HOMES WHERE WE'RE SEEING
10:46:02 THAT WE CAN GET TWO SMALLER HOMES ON ONE LOT, UNLESS WE
10:46:06 TACKLE OUR ZONING ISSUES NOW AND BE PREPARED FOR WHEN THESE
10:46:11 HOMES BECOME AVAILABLE, WE MIGHT BE JUST SPINNING OUR
10:46:15 WHEELS.
10:46:16 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:46:17 I'M ALSO HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET NOT ONLY
10:46:20 AFFORDABLE BUT MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE
10:46:25 URBAN CORE.
10:46:26 I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE PARKING.
10:46:30 I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA,
10:46:33 ESPECIALLY WITH DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND OTHER PEOPLE,
10:46:37 HOPING THAT WE CAN CHANGE OUR PARKING MINIMUMS.
10:46:39 MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THAT FURTHER OUT INTO THE CITY AS WE
10:46:43 PROGRESS.
10:46:44 A COUPLE OF THINGS, QUESTIONS.
10:46:46 ARE YOU GOING TO BE MAKING MANDATORY -- I NOTICED WE WERE
10:46:50 TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE.
10:46:54 WE ARE REALIZING NOW THAT UTILITY PAYMENTS ARE A LARGE COST
10:47:01 TO HOME OWNERSHIP, IF WE CAN MAKE SURE WE PUT SOLAR ON THESE
10:47:05 NEW HOMES, TANKLESS WATER HEATERS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS,
10:47:09 I HOPE WE MAKE THOSE MANDATORY TO THE BUILDERS FOR THESE
10:47:14 THINGS.
10:47:15 MY NEXT QUESTION, I'LL TRY AND LUMP -- MY NEXT QUESTION IS,
10:47:19 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 10,000 UNITS PROPOSED BY 2027.
10:47:23 BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:47:26 WILL THAT BE ENOUGH BY 2027?
10:47:36 OKAY.
10:47:36 I'LL GO WITH THOSE TWO.
10:47:38 THANK YOU, MS. POST.
10:47:41 >>CAROLE POST: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.
10:47:42 I CAN GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK RESPONSES.
10:47:44 AND AS WITH ANY OF THESE, HAPPY TO DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL AS
10:47:48 NEEDED.
10:47:49 YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD POINT AROUND WORKFORCE HOUSING VERSUS
10:47:53 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I SHOULD DEFINITELY EMPHASIZE THAT
10:47:58 THE ADVISORY TEAM FOCUSED ON THAT AND ACTUALLY HAD REALLY A
10:48:02 GREAT DEAL OF DIALOGUE ABOUT IT.
10:48:05 THEIR INTENTION, AND IT IS SET FORTH IN THE PREAMBLE OF THE
10:48:09 REPORT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A TERM OF ART.
10:48:12 AND IT'S DEFINED BY HUD AND OTHERS IN A HIGH DEGREE OF
10:48:18 SPECIFICITY.
10:48:19 WHAT OUR INTENTIONS WERE, WERE TO FOCUS ON HOUSING
10:48:22 AFFORDABILITY.
10:48:23 AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE DEFINED TERM OF AFFORDABLE
10:48:27 HOUSING, BUT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY
10:48:31 ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM DEPENDING ON WHAT A PERSON OR A
10:48:34 FAMILY'S AFFORDABILITY IS.
10:48:36 SO WE REALLY DID FOCUS A LOT ON WORKFORCE HOUSING AND OTHER
10:48:39 TERMS THAT ARE COMMONLY USED, BUT THE NATURE OF THIS REPORT
10:48:43 AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DRIVE IS A WIDE SPECTRUM OF
10:48:47 AFFORDABILITY.
10:48:48 SO I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING THAT.
10:48:50 AND ON UTILITY PAYMENTS, AGAIN, EXCELLENT POINT TO RAISE.
10:48:55 AS I MENTIONED AT THE INTRODUCTION, SO MANY ASPECTS OF OUR
10:48:58 CITY TEAM ARE INVOLVED IN DRIVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:49:03 OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE ADDITION HAS BROUGHT SOME
10:49:07 GREAT REFLECTION HERE AROUND HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF
10:49:12 A HOME DRIVE THE COST UP, AND WE'VE BEGUN TO EXPLORE THAT IN
10:49:18 TERMS OF HOW UTILITY COSTS, STORMWATER COSTS, CONNECTION FOR
10:49:22 WATER AND WASTEWATER, ALL OF THESE THAT DRIVE COSTS CAN BE
10:49:26 ADDRESSED IN SOME WAY.
10:49:27 SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HAVE THAT BE PART OF THE DYNAMIC.
10:49:31 AND THEN FINALLY, IS AROUND WHETHER 10,000 HOMES BY 2027 OR
10:49:37 UNITS BY 2027 IS ENOUGH.
10:49:39 I WOULD BET THAT THE ANSWER IS NO, THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO
10:49:44 FULLY AND COMPLETELY MEET THE DEMANDS OF OUR GROWING
10:49:48 COMMUNITY.
10:49:49 I THINK IT WILL HELP MAKE AN AGGRESSIVE DENT IN THE DEMAND
10:49:52 AND TO DO IT RAPIDLY.
10:49:55 AGAIN, MANY OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE
10:49:57 HAD SUCCESS, BUT IT'S BEEN A SLOW -- IT'S BEEN A SLOW TRAIN.
10:50:01 AND WE REALLY WANT TO AMP THIS UP.
10:50:03 WE NEED TO PUT SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS ON STEROIDS TO
10:50:06 ACCELERATE.
10:50:07 SO WILL THAT ULTIMATELY SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS?
10:50:11 I DON'T THINK SO.
10:50:11 BUT I THINK IT WILL -- I THINK IT WILL HELP DRIVE PROGRESS.
10:50:17 AS I SAID AT THE OUTSET, I THINK THIS IS NOT JUST A PROBLEM
10:50:20 FOR THE CITY TO SOLVE.
10:50:21 WE NEED OUR PRIVATE SECTOR, OUR COUNTY PARTNERS, THE HOUSING
10:50:25 AUTHORITIES, SO MANY.
10:50:26 AND EVERYONE IS AT THE TABLE, SO THAT'S OUR TARGET, AND WE
10:50:31 HOPE THAT OTHERS ARE SETTING SOME TARGETS AS WELL THAT WILL
10:50:34 HELP DRIVE SOME SOLUTIONS.
10:50:36 THANK YOU.
10:50:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. POST.
10:50:39 JUST ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION, AND JUST A BALLPARK FIGURE.
10:50:42 WHAT IS THE AVERAGE INCOME LEVELS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW
10:50:45 TODAY?
10:50:51 >> SORRY, IN TERMS OF A FAMILY OF FOUR, I THINK IT'S ABOUT
10:50:54 70,000.
10:50:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
10:50:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. POST.
10:50:58 >>CAROLE POST: THAT WAS VANESSA, BY THE WAY.
10:51:01 ANY EXPERT QUESTIONS GO RIGHT TO VANESSA.
10:51:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, VANESSA, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
10:51:07 ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
10:51:08 I DO APPRECIATE IT.
10:51:09 I MISS LOOKING AT PEOPLE FACE TO FACE.
10:51:12 I'M SORRY.
10:51:12 VOICES TEND TO SOUND THE SAME.
10:51:14 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:51:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:51:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:51:21 ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS FIRST.
10:51:23 I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO GO FIRST.
10:51:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO
10:51:28 BEFORE DINGFELDER.
10:51:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:51:30 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:51:31 LET ME SAY GOOD REPORT BY STAFF.
10:51:36 I'M GLAD THAT THE MOTION I MADE IN REFERENCE TO LAND
10:51:38 BANKING, LAND TRUST AND THIS COUNCIL WE SET IT FORTH AND
10:51:42 ADMINISTRATION HEARD OUR CALL ON THAT ISSUE AND ALSO ON THE
10:51:45 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE THAT WE STARTED -- STARTING IN
10:51:53 2019.
10:51:54 OUR CONCERNS ARE A FEW THINGS.
10:51:56 WHEN I LOOK AT TINY HOMES AND CONTAINER HOMES, I THINK IT'S
10:52:01 A GOOD IDEA, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THE
10:52:05 SCREEN, IT SAYS EAST TAMPA.
10:52:07 WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THIS
10:52:10 VENTURE, THAT TINY HOMES AND CONTAINER HOMES ARE IN ALL FOUR
10:52:15 SECTORS OF THE CITY AND NOT JUST IN EAST TAMPA.
10:52:17 I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, ALL OF EAST
10:52:22 TAMPA IS NOT POOR.
10:52:24 WE HAVE A LOT OF DIVERSE ECONOMICS THAT GO ON IN EAST TAMPA,
10:52:30 BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT DEVALUING PROPERTY AS WELL BY
10:52:33 SAYING WE'RE GOING TO REDLINE EAST TAMPA, SO ALL THE TINY
10:52:37 HOMES AND CONTAINER HOMES IN EAST TAMPA.
10:52:39 WE HAVE TO BE FAIR AND WE'RE A CITY, SO EVERYONE HAS TO
10:52:42 SHARE THE WEALTH OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING,
10:52:45 AND TINY HOMES IN SOUTH TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NORTH
10:52:50 TAMPA.
10:52:51 SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, MS. POST, AND
10:52:55 MS. McCLEARY.
10:52:59 >>CAROLE POST: COUNCILMAN GUDES, IT IS A GREAT POINT.
10:53:01 AGAIN, WE TRIED TO COVER AS MUCH GROUND AS POSSIBLE AS WE
10:53:04 COULD HERE, BUT YOU RAISE A POINT THAT WAS ALSO A VERY
10:53:07 IMPORTANT TOPIC TO THE ADVISORY TEAM AND SOMETHING THAT
10:53:10 VANESSA'S TEAM IS NOW INCORPORATING, WHICH IS DECENTRALIZING
10:53:15 THE IMPACTS OF ALL PROGRAMS, WHETHER THE SUCCESS THAT SOME
10:53:22 OF THEM HAVE BROUGHT TO BEAR, WE WANT TO SHARE THOSE ACROSS
10:53:26 THE CITY.
10:53:26 AND LIKEWISE, WHERE THERE ARE UNIQUE PILOTS, WE SHOULD BE
10:53:32 TRYING THEM IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:53:33 I THINK WE VERY MUCH SUPPORT THAT.
10:53:36 TO SOME EXTENT, WE RECOGNIZE WHERE THERE IS GREATER DEMAND
10:53:40 RIGHT NOW, AND SO SOME OF OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN CONCENTRATED TO
10:53:45 MEET THE MOST PRESSING DEMAND, AND THAT TENDS TO BE
10:53:49 CENTRALIZED.
10:53:50 BUT OUR GOAL IS TO DECENTRALIZE THESE PROGRAMS AND ENSURE
10:53:53 THAT A WIDE RANGE OF AFFORDABILITY EXISTS ACROSS ALL
10:53:57 NEIGHBORHOODS, ACROSS ALL COMMUNITIES.
10:54:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE A POLICY THAT
10:54:02 DIRECTS THAT SO WE DON'T GET COMPLACENT AND WE START A
10:54:06 REDLINE SITUATION.
10:54:07 I'M HOPING THAT COMES FORTH.
10:54:09 MY SECOND THING WE TALK ABOUT OUR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB.
10:54:13 I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
10:54:14 I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE.
10:54:17 I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S WORKING FOR ALL FOLKS WHO REALLY NEED
10:54:19 HELP WITH THESE ROOFTOPS WITH SOME OF THE HOUSING THAT'S
10:54:23 BEEN PASSED DOWN AND YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN GET
10:54:27 LOANS OR HAVE THE AFFORDABILITY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
10:54:33 THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE CRA'S REHAB PROGRAM BE TOTALLY
10:54:35 DIFFERENT FROM THE CITY'S BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE STATE OR
10:54:38 FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS WITH MONEY THAT'S -- THERE.
10:54:42 I ASKED THE CRAS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAM SO
10:54:45 PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO FIX THEIR HOMES UP.
10:54:49 WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL SECTORS, ESPECIALLY THE EAST TAMPA
10:54:52 DISTRICT.
10:54:52 THAT'S WHY I PUT FORTH THE TREE ORDINANCE.
10:54:54 WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE AREAS TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE
10:54:59 AND HAVE THE ECONOMIC DRIVE FOR THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
10:55:03 I HOPE YOUR PROGRAM WILL BE ROBUST WHERE IT HELPS MORE
10:55:07 PEOPLE VERSUS HOLDING MONEY BACK AND NOT HELPING PEOPLE.
10:55:11 YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THE REHAB PROGRAM AND HOW ROBUST.
10:55:17 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: VANESSA McCLEARY RESPONDING.
10:55:20 WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM, WE
10:55:23 ARE TAKING IT ONLINE TO MAKE THE APPLICATION PROCESSING MORE
10:55:29 EFFICIENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
10:55:33 UPGRADING TO RIGHT NOW, NOT ONLY WOULD STAFF BE ABLE TO SEE
10:55:39 THE PROGRESS OF THE APPLICATION, BUT THE OWNER WOULD ALSO BE
10:55:43 ABLE TO SEE WHERE THEIR APPLICATION IS IN THE PROCESS.
10:55:47 IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ADDED THE REPLACEMENT HOUSING PROGRAM
10:55:51 BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, EVERY SO OFTEN WE HAVE HOMES THAT ARE
10:55:57 BEYOND REPAIR.
10:55:58 WE HAVE ONE HOME THAT RIGHT NOW IS LEANING.
10:56:01 SO WE'RE MOVING QUICKLY TO GET THE REPLACEMENT HOUSING
10:56:04 PROGRAM IN PLACE TO ASSIST THAT HOMEOWNER.
10:56:07 IT WILL BE A MODULAR HOME BECAUSE WE CAN TEAR DOWN THE HOME
10:56:12 AND PLACE THAT MODULAR RATHER QUICKLY.
10:56:15 THE HOMEOWNER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN RELOCATION
10:56:19 DURING THAT TRANSITION BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE OUTLAY, AND SO
10:56:25 WE CAN'T INCLUDE RELOCATION AS PART OF THAT BECAUSE WE WANT
10:56:29 TO HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
10:56:31 THEY WOULD MAKE A SMALL PAYMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE ESCROWING
10:56:36 THEIR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND THEIR TAXES TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:56:40 THEY DON'T LOSE THE HOME TO THOSE AND THEN A SMALL PORTION
10:56:44 TOWARDS THE PRINCIPAL.
10:56:47 THEY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE A HOME THAT IS DECENT, SAFE,
10:56:51 SANITARY, HELPS TO BUILD UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:56:57 I DON'T THINK I HAD A SLIDE ON THERE.
10:56:59 BUT WE DO HAVE WHAT THE MODULAR HOMES LOOK LIKE, AND THEY
10:57:03 ARE BEAUTIFUL WITH BEAUTIFUL AMENITIES.
10:57:07 WE HAVE SHOWN THEM TO A FEW POTENTIAL APPLICANTS FOR THE
10:57:13 PROGRAM, JUST TO BE SURE THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY
10:57:16 WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF.
10:57:18 SO THEY WERE VERY EXCITED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING
10:57:22 FORWARD.
10:57:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LASTLY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR NONPROFITS,
10:57:28 I SEE THREE, CDC, HABITAT AND I BELIEVE EAST TAMPA BUSINESS
10:57:33 ASSOCIATION.
10:57:34 HOW IS THAT GETTING MORE NONPROFITS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS?
10:57:38 I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME PEOPLE SAYING THEY WANT TO BE
10:57:41 INVOLVED BUT THEY HAVE STRINGENT CRITERIA.
10:57:43 HOW ARE WE COMING ALONG TO GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN
10:57:46 BUILDING AND HELPING, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THESE NONPROFITS?
10:57:51 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: THOSE WERE THE THREE THAT WERE ON THE
10:57:53 SLIDE, BUT WE ALSO WORK WITH EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC
10:57:55 ASSOCIATION, REBUILDING TOGETHER TAMPA BAY.
10:58:03 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NONPROFITS THAT WE WORK
10:58:05 WITH.
10:58:06 SO WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING WITH NONPROFITS TO BUILD
10:58:10 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S RESPONDING TO AN RFP.
10:58:17 AND SO WHEN WE PUT OUT FUNDING, WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO
10:58:20 RESPOND.
10:58:20 WHEN WE DID OUR LAST CHDO APPLICATION, WE FUNDED EVERY
10:58:26 ORGANIZATION THAT RESPONDED TO THAT RFP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
10:58:29 TRYING TO EXPAND.
10:58:30 WE ALSO DO WORKSHOPS.
10:58:33 WE HAVE DONE WORKSHOPS ON HOW TO APPLY FOR PROGRAMS AWAY
10:58:36 FROM AN RFP AS WELL AS DURING THE RFP PROCESS, WE DO A
10:58:42 WORKSHOP WHERE WE WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THE APPLICATION.
10:58:45 WE'VE ALSO TOLD FOLKS, WE DO A GRANTSMANSHIP WORKSHOP ONCE A
10:58:51 YEAR, USUALLY IN JANUARY, WHERE WE JUST HELP PEOPLE TO
10:58:56 UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR AN APPLICATION.
10:58:59 WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A PUBLIC ENTITY, AND
10:59:03 SO IF THEY WANT TO SEE A PAST RESPONSE THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL,
10:59:09 THEY ARE WELCOME TO GET A COPY.
10:59:10 AND WE HAVE MAILED OUT, E-MAILED OUT COPIES OF APPLICATIONS.
10:59:15 WE E-MAILED OUT THE ONE THAT DOMAIN DID, THAT CDC HAS DONE,
10:59:20 THAT HABITAT HAS DONE.
10:59:21 SO WE'VE HAD SOME REQUESTS, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THEM
10:59:25 RESPONDING.
10:59:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:59:33 I YIELD BACK.
10:59:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBERS CARLSON AND VIERA, WOULD
10:59:36 YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AS WELL?
10:59:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, WHEN THEY ARE DONE.
10:59:42 >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN MAKE BRIEF COMMENTS AT THE END.
10:59:45 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:59:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO DINGFELDER, CARLSON, VIERA.
10:59:47 GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:59:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:59:51 THANK YOU, CAROLE AND VANESSA FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:59:55 I'VE GOT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.
11:00:10 ABOUT A YEAR AGO, MS. CHLOE CONEY STOOD IN FRONT OF US AND
11:00:15 MADE A VERY ADAMANT, SINCERE AND STRONG REQUEST THAT WE DO
11:00:20 AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
11:00:22 CAROLE, I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO IT BRIEFLY.
11:00:27 I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH IN THE WAY OF DETAILS OR PLANS FOR THAT.
11:00:32 I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT FIVE QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST
11:00:34 ONE.
11:00:40 >>CAROLE POST: I CAN JUST RESPOND TO THAT ONE.
11:00:43 THE ADVISORY TEAM DID RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY EXPLORE
11:00:50 DEVELOPING HOUSING TRUST FUND LIKE A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST,
11:00:55 IT'S A RELATIVELY COMMON TOOL THAT CAN BE USED TO HELP DRIVE
11:01:00 POSITIVE IMPACTS HERE.
11:01:01 AND IT IS ON OUR HORIZON.
11:01:04 FRANKLY, IT'S JUST SOMETHING AS WE'VE GOT -- AS YOU CAN SEE,
11:01:07 MANY, MANY IRONS IN THE FIRE THAT WE'VE PUT ON A SIDE
11:01:11 BURNER.
11:01:12 WE FEEL LIKE THE ONE TAMPA, 501(C)(3) IS UP AND RUNNING AND
11:01:16 CAN SERVE PHILANTHROPIC AND FUND-RAISING NEEDS.
11:01:19 THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WILL BE DONE IN THE COMING WEEKS
11:01:23 AND WILL REALLY BEGIN TO DRIVE SOME OF OUR SOLUTIONING AND
11:01:27 THE TRUST FUND OR THE TRUST FUND THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO,
11:01:33 IF WE'RE SPEAKING OF THE SAME THING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY
11:01:36 THE ADVISORY TEAM, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DOWN THE
11:01:39 ROAD FOR US.
11:01:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:01:44 IN REGARD TO THE 501(C)(3), IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S SORT OF
11:01:51 EVOLVING FROM ITS ORIGINAL PURPOSE INTO OTHER POSITIVE
11:01:57 PURPOSES, WHICH IS GREAT.
11:02:01 I'M JUST WONDERING, WHO SITS ON THE BOARD OF THAT.
11:02:04 DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT TO HELP
11:02:11 GUIDE IT IN THE FUTURE?
11:02:14 OR IS THAT JUST ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS AND
11:02:18 REPRESENTATIVES ON THE NONPROFIT BOARD?
11:02:25 >>CAROLE POST: SO THE GOVERNANCE IS IN THE WORKS, AND I'D BE
11:02:29 HAPPY TO RELATE SOME OF THOSE DETAILS AS THEY COME INTO
11:02:32 GREATER SHAPE.
11:02:34 BUT THE FORMULATION OF THIS ENTITY IS DONE PURSUANT TO
11:02:41 STANDARD GUIDANCE.
11:02:45 GINA GRIMES' OFFICE IS ASSISTING IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT.
11:02:49 IN ADDITION, THE FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION, WHICH WAS AN
11:02:53 AGREEMENT THAT CAME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, HAS BEEN
11:02:57 CONTRACTED TO HELP ADVISE US ON HOW WE DEVELOP AND BUILD AND
11:03:01 ESTABLISH APPROPRIATE GOVERNANCE FOR THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE
11:03:05 HAVE SET FORTH.
11:03:05 SO WE'RE HOPING TO ENGAGE BEST PRACTICES THERE, BUT THE
11:03:10 DETAILS ARE NOT YET CONCLUDED.
11:03:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:03:14 IF I WASN'T SUBTLE ENOUGH, I THINK ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES
11:03:17 WOULD BE TO INCLUDE A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THAT BOARD.
11:03:21 OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE
11:03:23 AT LEAST ONE.
11:03:24 SO I HOPE THAT'S INCLUDED.
11:03:32 VANESSA YOU SPOKE TO INCENTIVES THAT WOULD HELP AFFORDABLE
11:03:38 HOUSING.
11:03:39 AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE
11:03:44 REALLY CAREFUL BECAUSE IT COULD BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WE
11:03:49 CREATE A WHOLE SLEW OF REGULATORY INCENTIVES LIKE ALLOWING
11:03:54 TREES TO COME DOWN WITHOUT MITIGATION, YOU KNOW, SMALLER
11:04:01 LOTS THAT MIGHT IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS, ET CETERA, AND FROM A
11:04:07 POLICY PERSPECTIVE, WE ALL MIGHT THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A
11:04:11 TRADE-OFF AND THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:04:14 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO GO DOWN A SLIPPERY
11:04:18 SLOPE TO SAY, OH, AND, BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO OFFER THAT
11:04:21 FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT.
11:04:24 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: -- STRICTLY AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING
11:04:32 AT CREATING A SEPARATE PART OF THE CODE SPECIFICALLY FOR
11:04:36 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ANYTIME THEY ARE UTILIZED, THERE IS A
11:04:39 RESTRICTION PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY SO THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T
11:04:43 SAY, I'M BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I'D LIKE TO GET THAT
11:04:46 WAIVER AND THEN NOT.
11:04:47 AND THERE'S A LOT MORE -- I MEAN, I GAVE YOU QUICK, BRIEF
11:04:51 OVERVIEWS, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAILS TO IT, BECAUSE,
11:04:55 YES, WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
11:04:58 WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S CANOPY.
11:04:59 WE JUST WANT TO BE REASONABLE IN HOW WE DO IT AND PROVIDE
11:05:04 SOME WAIVERS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE PROJECT TO BE
11:05:10 DEVELOPED AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE.
11:05:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:05:13 I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN CITRO POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN
11:05:20 WE DO ALLOW SOME OF THOSE -- [AUDIO INTERFERENCE] --
11:05:30 SOMEBODY IS RUSTLING -- FOR THE PURPOSE OF AFFORDABLE
11:05:32 HOUSING, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO KNOW
11:05:36 EXACTLY WHAT THE THRESHOLD IS THAT WE'RE ALLOWING IT FOR.
11:05:44 IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT A $70,000 FOUR-PERSON FAMILY OR IS IT
11:05:47 A $50,000 FOUR-PERSON FAMILY OR WHAT HAVE YOU?
11:05:52 CAROLE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THESE WORDS, AFFORDABLE,
11:05:56 ATTAINABLE, WORKFORCE, AFTER A WHILE THEY ALMOST BECOME
11:06:01 MEANINGLESS WITHOUT SOME PRECISE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH
11:06:06 THEM.
11:06:06 SO WHEN YOU BRING BACK THOSE PROPOSALS TO COUNCIL FOR
11:06:11 ORDINANCE CHANGES, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC
11:06:14 IN TERMS OF WHO THE RECIPIENT IS GOING TO BE FOR THESE TYPES
11:06:19 OF PROPOSALS, NOT JUST USING THOSE VAGUE WORDS THAT I THINK
11:06:23 ARE A LITTLE DANGEROUS.
11:06:29 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN THE PROPOSAL, IT INCLUDES DEFINITIONS
11:06:32 FOR WHAT IS CONSIDERED WORKFORCE AND WHAT IS CONSIDERED
11:06:35 AFFORDABLE, AND THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF INCOMES.
11:06:38 SO I CAN MEET WITH YOU LATER AND GO THROUGH IN GREATER
11:06:44 DETAIL, BUT DURING THIS FORUM, WE JUST TRIED TO STAY HIGH
11:06:49 LEVEL.
11:06:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FINE.
11:06:51 AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THOSE TYPE OF
11:06:56 DETAILS GET CODIFIED WHEN WE'RE DOING -- WHEN WE ARE
11:06:59 CREATING THE INCENTIVES AS WELL.
11:07:01 I SAW A QUICK REFERENCE, CAROLE, IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT
11:07:09 SOUTH TAMPA SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:07:11 I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.
11:07:12 AND I WAS SORT OF SHOCKED BECAUSE THE LAND PRICES IN SOUTH
11:07:17 TAMPA AND NOW IT'S BECOMING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
11:07:28 SORT OF PROHIBITIVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE WHOLE.
11:07:32 WHAT WAS THAT REFERENCE, SOUTH TAMPA SINGLE-FAMILY
11:07:36 AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
11:07:40 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: ACTUALLY -- AND IT WAS PROBABLY BETTER
11:07:42 DEFINED AS PORT TAMPA, AND IT'S SOME PROPERTY THAT THE CITY
11:07:46 OWNS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:07:49 ON.
11:07:49 BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHERE WE CAN FIND PROPERTY WITHIN
11:07:53 SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE THERE IS A WORKFORCE THERE THAT NEEDS TO
11:07:56 BE ABLE TO LIVE NEAR -- THAT, AGAIN, WOULD BE PART OF THE
11:08:00 COMMUNITY LAND TRUST SO THAT THAT PROPERTY COULD REMAIN
11:08:04 AFFORDABLE.
11:08:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT THE FORMER LANDFILL SITE DOWN
11:08:11 IN PORT TAMPA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IS IT?
11:08:14 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: NO.
11:08:15 IT'S FIRE STATION.
11:08:17 FORMER FIRE STATION.
11:08:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS MY NEXT GUESS.
11:08:21 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: YEAH.
11:08:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW BIG IS THE FIRE STATION PROPERTY?
11:08:27 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT THREE ACRES.
11:08:31 AGAIN, I CAN GET GREATER DETAIL AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU OFF
11:08:36 LINE.
11:08:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS CURIOUS.
11:08:38 IF YOU WERE FINDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPE PROPERTY IN
11:08:42 SOUTH TAMPA, YOU ARE REALLY DOING AMAZING WORK.
11:08:47 NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS DOING AMAZING WORK.
11:08:50 GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE ON THE RIVERFRONT PROPERTY.
11:09:01 I THINK MOST OF US STOOD OUT THERE ON THAT PRE-COVID DAY IN
11:09:06 THE WINTER AND ENJOYED A PLEASANT TIME UNDER A TENT TALKING
11:09:12 ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT PROPERTY MIGHT BE.
11:09:15 I GUESS NOW WE'RE AT LEAST EIGHT MONTHS LATER, I ASSUME
11:09:21 THERE'S AN RFP PROBABLY IN SOME SORT OF DRAFT FORM, BUT YOU
11:09:25 GUYS PROMISED YOU'D LET US SEE BEFORE IT WENT OUT ON THE
11:09:30 STREET.
11:09:30 WHERE ARE WE AT ON THE RIVERFRONT PROPERTY?
11:09:34 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO WE HAVE NOW CONCLUDED THE MEETINGS
11:09:36 WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DID MEET WITH THE WEST TAMPA
11:09:41 COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR INPUT.
11:09:43 WE HAVE A DRAFT OF THE RFP THAT IS BEING CIRCULATED THROUGH
11:09:48 CITY DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE
11:09:53 DEVELOPMENTS, MAKING THE DEVELOPERS AWARE.
11:09:58 THE PLAN IS TO PUT THAT RFP OUT SOMETIME THIS FALL.
11:10:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:10:05 IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
11:10:08 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE RFP.
11:10:11 I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH COUNCIL,
11:10:13 AT LEAST IN WRITING BEFORE IT GOES TOO MUCH FURTHER, BECAUSE
11:10:21 THAT WAY WE CAN GIVE YOU OUR INDIVIDUAL INPUT, LIKE I SAID,
11:10:28 BEFORE IT GETS TOO FAR ALONG.
11:10:30 MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER
11:10:35 COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYBE MR. CITRO ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER, THIS
11:10:40 NUMBER -- THIS NUMBER THAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, CAROLE, I
11:10:44 DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS
11:10:48 10,000 UNITS.
11:10:49 YEAH, THERE IT IS.
11:10:50 10,000 UNITS BY 2027.
11:10:56 HOW DID THE COMMITTEE DERIVE THAT NUMBER?
11:10:59 WHAT WAS THE ORIGIN OF THAT NUMBER?
11:11:01 BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM A BIT ARBITRARY, AND I'M WONDERING HOW
11:11:07 MUCH IT REALLY ADDRESSES THE TRULY POOR FOLKS.
11:11:19 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A FAMILY OF FOUR AND $70,000, I REALIZE
11:11:24 THEY MIGHT BE STRUGGLING A BIT, BUT THEY ARE NOT -- I DON'T
11:11:27 THINK THAT'S TRULY THE POOREST FOLKS THAT WE'RE DEALING
11:11:31 WITH.
11:11:32 THAT 10,000 UNITS, ARE WE ADDRESSING FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE A
11:11:38 FAMILY OF FOUR ON $30,000 A YEAR, YOU KNOW, WORKING TWO JOBS
11:11:42 AT BURGER KING AND CHICK-FIL-A OR WHATEVER?
11:11:47 >>CAROLE POST: TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT, I SPOKE A LITTLE
11:11:49 BIT ABOUT IT ON THAT SLIDE.
11:11:51 THE RATIONALE THERE WAS TWOFOLD, AND IN RESPONSE TO THE
11:11:56 NATURE OF YOUR QUESTION.
11:11:57 ONE WAS -- WELL, THERE WERE REALLY THREE THINGS NOTED.
11:12:01 THE GROUP FELT THAT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ACTUAL
11:12:05 TARGET.
11:12:05 WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WANTING TO INCREASE AND HAVE MORE IN
11:12:11 ASPIRATIONAL TERMS, AND WE WANTED TO BE MORE METRICS DRIVEN.
11:12:16 SO THEY SPENT SOME TIME, THERE WAS A BREAKOUT GROUP THAT
11:12:19 FOCUSED ON THIS AND THEY SPENT SOME TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT
11:12:22 THE PRODUCTION NUMBERS WERE CURRENTLY AND HAD BEEN
11:12:25 HISTORICALLY.
11:12:25 AND THEY USED THAT AS THE BASELINE.
11:12:28 AS I SAID AND KIND OF ROLLING THIS UP SOMEWHAT HIGH LEVEL
11:12:31 BUT THE CITY THROUGH CITY SUPPORT FUNCTIONS WHERE THE CITY
11:12:36 IS A PARTY TO OR A PASS-THROUGH, HAS TYPICALLY RESULTED IN
11:12:42 ABOUT 900 ADDITIONAL UNITS PER YEAR.
11:12:46 THAT BEING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND RENTAL.
11:12:50 AND THAT'S BEFORE THE INFILL PROJECT CAME ONLINE.
11:12:54 SO THE CHALLENGE WAS, WELL, HOW MANY MORE COULD WE DO BOTH
11:12:58 FROM THE CITY SUPPORT SERVICES, BUT IN ADDITION TO IF WE
11:13:02 WERE VERY EFFECTIVE AT INFLUENCING PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IN
11:13:06 SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT THROUGH
11:13:09 CODE REVISIONS, THROUGH DRIVING COSTS DOWN, THROUGH
11:13:12 PROVIDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR TINY HOMES AND OTHER
11:13:15 MATTERS, HOW COULD WE HELP DRIVE THE ECONOMICS OF IT TO MAKE
11:13:20 IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND THEN COUNT
11:13:23 THAT AS ADDITIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
11:13:26 AND SO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A VARIETY OF -- THE IDEA WAS CAN
11:13:31 YOU DOUBLE THE NUMBER?
11:13:33 THAT SEEMS SOMEWHAT AMBITIOUS.
11:13:36 SO RESULTING IN THE 350 MORE A YEAR FELT LIKE IT WAS
11:13:43 REASONABLE.
11:13:44 IT WAS AMBITIOUS, BUT ACHIEVABLE.
11:13:46 AND THAT WAS ABOUT A 38% INCREASE.
11:13:49 SO IF I RECALL THE CONVERSATION, FOLKS WERE WANTING TO TRY
11:13:54 TO SAY COULD WE GET 50% MORE AND THAT SEEMED LIKE A STRETCH.
11:13:57 WE ENDED UP SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 40 PERCENT.
11:14:01 TO SOME EXTENT, IT'S A GOOD ROUND NUMBER.
11:14:04 AND NOT TO MAKE THAT ARBITRARY, THERE WAS A GOOD AMOUNT OF
11:14:07 DISCUSSION INVOLVES.
11:14:08 THE BASIS WAS, WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW AND HAVE TYPICALLY
11:14:13 DONE, HISTORICALLY DONE, AND HOW CONFIDENT ARE WE THAT WE
11:14:16 CAN ADD TO THAT AT NOT JUST A FIVE OR TEN PERCENT REACH, BUT
11:14:21 MORE LIKE 30, 40 PERCENT REACH, SO THAT'S WHERE THE GROUP
11:14:25 ENDED UP.
11:14:26 THAT'S WHERE THE 10,000 COMES FROM.
11:14:28 IT WOULD JUMP FROM AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 900 A YEAR TO ABOUT
11:14:32 1,250 A YEAR.
11:14:34 AS I SAID BEFORE, IT WILL NOT SOLVE EVERY ISSUE, BUT IT DOES
11:14:39 GIVE US A NEW BAR TO STRIVE FOR AND A SPECIFIC MEASURABLE
11:14:43 TARGET TO TRY TO ACHIEVE.
11:14:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:14:48 YOU BROUGHT UP -- ONE LAST QUESTION.
11:14:50 I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:14:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:14:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S REALLY PROBABLY THE BIGGEST
11:14:56 QUESTION, WHICH IS ABOUT FUNDING AND ABOUT A SUSTAINABLE
11:15:01 FUNDING MECHANISM.
11:15:04 AGAIN, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT A YEAR AGO IN REGARD TO
11:15:10 AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVEN'T
11:15:13 GONE VERY FAR IN TERMS OF FINDING A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF
11:15:18 MONEY.
11:15:18 YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE RELY ON FEDERAL FUNDS AND WE PASS THEM
11:15:22 THROUGH TO VARIOUS PROJECTS, AND WE DO A GOOD JOB AS THE
11:15:27 PASS-THROUGH AGENT.
11:15:28 WE DON'T REALLY GENERATE HARDLY ANYTHING IN TERMS OF CASH
11:15:33 OURSELVES, LOCALLY, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
11:15:37 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE IRONY THAT WHEN WE HAVE A
11:15:40 FLOODING PROBLEM ALL OVER THE CITY, WE CREATE A STORMWATER
11:15:46 FEE AND WE ADDRESS IT.
11:15:52 WE HAVE A WATER PIPES PROBLEM AND A SEWER PROBLEM --
11:15:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SILENCE.
11:16:01 WHOEVER'S PHONE IS GOING OFF, IF THEY CAN HIT THAT SLIDE
11:16:08 BUTTON.
11:16:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, WHEN WE HAVE A STORMWATER PROBLEM
11:16:13 WE ADDRESS WITH THE STORMWATER FEE, WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER
11:16:17 PROBLEM, WE ADDRESS IT WITH A BIG INCREASE IN SEWER AND
11:16:21 WATER FEES, AND WE CALL IT PIPES.
11:16:24 WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS THAT'S ONLY GOING TO
11:16:27 GET WORSE.
11:16:29 AND CAROLE, YOUR NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY CONSERVATIVE, BUT WE
11:16:32 APPRECIATE THEM.
11:16:33 BUT DEVELOPING A LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE APPROACH TO FUNDING
11:16:39 THIS.
11:16:40 I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THE TASK FORCE MUST HAVE
11:16:43 ADDRESSED THIS AS WELL.
11:16:44 I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OVER
11:16:48 THE NEXT YEAR IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.
11:16:53 I KNOW THE COUNTY CAME UP WITH THEIR OWN AND IDENTIFIED $10
11:16:57 MILLION OF COUNTY MONEY, AND THEY ARE GOING TO SHARE A
11:17:01 LITTLE BIT OF THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR THE CITY.
11:17:04 SO I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TODAY.
11:17:08 BUT I DO HAVE THAT REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT I THINK WE
11:17:13 NEED TO START WORKING ON TODAY AND CONTINUE WORKING ON UNTIL
11:17:17 WE ANSWER IT.
11:17:18 THANK YOU.
11:17:19 CAROLE, THAT'S A QUESTION.
11:17:23 >>CAROLE POST: I APPRECIATE IT.
11:17:25 I WOULD RESPOND LIKE YOU, WE DON'T HAVE A MAGIC ANSWER FOR
11:17:27 IT TODAY.
11:17:28 I THINK WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO REFLECT ON IS THAT THERE IS NO
11:17:32 SINGLE ANSWER.
11:17:33 THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES TO TRY TO DRIVE SOLUTIONS
11:17:35 HERE.
11:17:36 FRANKLY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND FROM THE MAYOR DOWN,
11:17:39 THERE'S NOTHING OFF THE TABLE.
11:17:40 WE'RE OPEN TO ANY IDEAS, ALL IDEAS, ALL DISCUSSIONS.
11:17:45 AND WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED TODAY IS CERTAINLY NOT THE END OF
11:17:49 OUR GAME PLAN.
11:17:50 IT IS AN EVOLVING AND GROWING AND CONSTANTLY SHIFTING PLAN
11:17:54 THAT WE WILL TAKE ALL INPUTS AND SUGGESTIONS FOR.
11:17:58 I WOULD JUST EMPHASIZE, THOUGH, AND IF VANESSA WANTS TO JUMP
11:18:04 IN ON IT, IN TERMS OF BEING THE CONDUIT FOR FUNDS THAT WE'RE
11:18:07 VERY EFFECTIVE AT AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY SEEKING TO GET MORE
11:18:11 AND HAVE A GREATER POT TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE.
11:18:15 BUT WE VERY MUCH FEEL LIKE WE CAN ALSO INFLUENCE THAT
11:18:19 PRIVATE SECTOR AND TRY TO CREATE A MARKET ECONOMIC STRUCTURE
11:18:26 THAT WILL INCENTIVIZE AND CREATE A MORE APPEALING ECONOMIC
11:18:32 DYNAMIC FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HELP SOLVE THIS AS WELL.
11:18:39 BY DRIVING COSTS DOWN, BY INCENTIVIZING, BY TAKING OUT SOME
11:18:43 OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PART OF DEVELOPMENT
11:18:47 AND HOUSING AS VANESSA RAN THROUGH THE LAUNDRY LIST.
11:18:51 WE THINK THERE ARE MANY PATHS HERE AND WELCOME ALL INPUT.
11:18:58 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: I WANT TO ADD THAT WE WERE EXPLORING
11:19:02 CITY FUNDING SOURCES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THEN WE GOT
11:19:06 HIT WITH COVID.
11:19:08 I THINK THAT KIND OF DERAILED OUR EFFORTS ON THAT FRONT.
11:19:13 WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE WORKING
11:19:16 WITH, AND I LOVE MONEY, BUT I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW I DON'T LOVE
11:19:21 MONEY.
11:19:22 WE HAVE A LOT OF CARES ACT FUNDING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
11:19:26 DEPLOY, AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED A CITY FUNDING
11:19:30 SOURCE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST NOT RIGHT NOW.
11:19:36 UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK WE NEED TO DO WITH THE
11:19:38 COVID RELIEF EFFORTS THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE WHILE
11:19:43 TO MAKE SURE WE SPEND DOWN THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE COMING
11:19:46 INTO THE COMMUNITY.
11:19:46 BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
11:19:48 WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
11:19:49 AND WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.
11:19:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:19:56 THANK YOU, STAFF.
11:19:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND
11:20:00 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:20:01 REMEMBER, THERE IS ANOTHER PowerPoint AFTER THIS.
11:20:09 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO MANY OF THE THINGS MY
11:20:11 COLLEAGUES SAID ABOUT GETTING A FUNDING SOURCE AND ALSO
11:20:14 FOCUSING ON WORKFORCE HOUSING AND OTHER KINDS OF HOUSING.
11:20:18 THE TAMPA CHAMBER AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A
11:20:21 LONG TIME AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE
11:20:24 HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AFFECTS TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC JAMS
11:20:30 AND OTHER ISSUES WE FACE, TOO.
11:20:31 IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO THANK MS. POST AND MS. McCLEARY
11:20:35 AND ALL YOUR STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK ON THIS.
11:20:38 VERY IMPRESSIVE PRESENTATION.
11:20:40 THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGHNESS OF THIS.
11:20:42 YOU ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL
11:20:46 SINCE I THINK THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING THAT WE HAD.
11:20:49 THE COMMUNITY CAME BEFORE US IN LARGE NUMBERS, AND WE'VE
11:20:54 HAD, MS. McCLEARY AND OTHERS COME BEFORE US AND TALK ABOUT
11:20:57 IT.
11:20:57 WE LOOK FORWARD TO ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND PARTNERING
11:21:00 WITH YOU ON THIS.
11:21:01 SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE -- FIRST OF ALL, THE
11:21:06 SHORTAGE OF HOUSING, THE QUALITY OF HOUSING, THE LACK OF
11:21:10 ACCESSIBILITY OR COMMUNICATION.
11:21:13 THERE WERE MANY PRIVATE SECTOR VENDORS, CONTRACTORS, AND
11:21:18 OTHERS WHO COMPLAINED AND SAID THAT THEY THOUGHT THE RFP
11:21:21 PROCESS WAS NOT FAIR, AND PROBABLY THE WORST EXAMPLE OF ALL
11:21:24 WAS WHAT IS NOW CALLED THE WEST RIVER, WHERE THERE WERE NOT
11:21:27 ONLY COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW THE RFP WAS HANDLED BUT ALSO THE
11:21:30 FACT THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WERE DISPLACED WITH NO HOUSING
11:21:34 ALIGNED FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO.
11:21:36 MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CALLED IT THE WHITEWASHING OF
11:21:39 TAMPA AND STILL THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
11:21:42 AFFORDABLE, GOING BACK THERE ARE A SMALL NUMBER COMPARED TO
11:21:45 THE ONES TAKEN AWAY, WHICH REALLY FORCED A LOT OF PEOPLE
11:21:47 OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
11:21:49 THE BOTTOM LINE, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF
11:21:53 THESE ISSUES AND MORE, AND YOU'RE LOOKING DILIGENTLY AND
11:21:55 TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PARTNERSHIP
11:21:58 BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COUNCIL AND THE
11:22:01 COMMUNITY.
11:22:01 SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT.
11:22:03 MY BIG QUESTION, SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHERS HAVE ASKED, AND I
11:22:07 REMEMBER, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU CAN CORRECT US LATER, I
11:22:10 REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING A NUMBER LIKE 10,000 OR SOMETHING
11:22:12 WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR ONE OF THE FIRST
11:22:15 MEETINGS WE HAD, THE HEAD OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY CAME
11:22:18 BEFORE US A FEW MONTHS AGO AND SAID THE STATED NUMBER OF
11:22:21 SHORTAGE TODAY IS 25,000.
11:22:24 AND HE SAID THE REAL NUMBER IS PROBABLY 50,000.
11:22:27 SO THE QUESTION IS, WE'RE NOT -- WE AND ALL OF THESE
11:22:32 AGENCIES ARE NOT EVEN GOING TO GET CLOSE TO THIS NUMBER TO
11:22:36 MEET THE DEMAND TODAY, MUCH LESS THE DEMAND TOMORROW.
11:22:40 WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS ECONOMIC SITUATION IS GOING TO FORCE
11:22:44 MORE PEOPLE INTO HOMELESSNESS OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
11:22:48 WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?
11:22:50 DO PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE CITY?
11:22:53 DO THEY SUBLET SPACE TO FAMILIES TO MOVE IN WITH EACH OTHER?
11:22:58 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE CURRENT SHORTAGE?
11:22:59 AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE 10,000 MORE PEOPLE OUT OF
11:23:01 THEIR HOMES IN THE NEXT YEAR?
11:23:03 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?
11:23:05 THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
11:23:06 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:23:07 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THIS IS VANESSA
11:23:10 McCLEARY AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN SO FOCUSED ON
11:23:14 INCENTIVIZING THE FOR-PROFIT COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN
11:23:20 THE NEED FOR WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:23:24 WE'RE TACKLING THAT FROM TWO FRONTS.
11:23:26 WE ARE TALKING TO THE LARGE CONTRACTORS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN
11:23:29 SUPPORT THE EFFORT, HOW THEY CAN INCLUDE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN
11:23:34 THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS TALKING WITH BUSINESSES AND
11:23:38 POINTING OUT TO THEM, IT'S YOUR WORKFORCE THAT WE'RE TRYING
11:23:41 TO HOUSE, AND THE IMPORTANCE FOR THEIR BOTTOM LINE IN
11:23:46 HELPING US TO HOUSE THEIR WORKFORCE.
11:23:48 SO BY GETTING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, GETTING THE PRIVATE
11:23:52 SECTOR INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT IS THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING
11:23:55 TO MEET THAT NUMBER.
11:23:56 GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO IT ON ITS OWN.
11:23:59 SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE OF OUR EFFORTS, PUSHING INFORMATION
11:24:04 OUT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET THEM MORE INVOLVED.
11:24:08 AND WE HAVE SEEN, EYES ARE BEING OPENED AND WE'RE GETTING
11:24:12 MORE RESPONSES FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR ASKING HOW THEY CAN
11:24:18 BE SUPPORTIVE.
11:24:19 SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE FORUMS LIKE OUR VIRTUAL EVENT TO
11:24:25 SHOW THEM THE DIFFERENT PATHS THEY CAN USE TO EFFECT MORE
11:24:32 HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
11:24:35 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE QUICK NOTE.
11:24:36 EVERYONE I TALKED TO WHEN I JOINED CITY COUNCIL, EVERYONE I
11:24:39 TALKED TO IN THE FIELD SAID THAT MS. McCLEARY IS TOP-NOTCH
11:24:43 AND VERY WELL RESPECTED IN THE INDUSTRY AND I APPRECIATE HER
11:24:46 STAYING ON THROUGH THIS WHOLE TRANSITION.
11:24:48 AND WHAT I'VE SEEN ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE IS THEY PULLED
11:24:52 SOME EXCELLENT PEOPLE OUT, MIKE MS. McCLEARY AND GIVEN
11:24:55 THEM MORE RESOURCES, WHICH IS WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO A
11:24:59 BETTER JOB.
11:25:00 THANK YOU, MS. McCLEARY AND THANK YOU TO THE
11:25:02 ADMINISTRATION FOR SUPPORTING.
11:25:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND THAT, SIR.
11:25:08 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:25:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:25:11 I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.
11:25:12 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME BRIEF REMARKS.
11:25:15 A LOT OF ISSUES HAVE BEEN TAKEN UP AND SPOKEN ABOUT VERY
11:25:18 ELOQUENTLY.
11:25:20 IT'S A PIVOTAL ISSUE.
11:25:22 IT'S WHAT YOU CALL A BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUE FOR WORKING
11:25:25 FAMILIES.
11:25:25 AS EVERYBODY HAD SAID, I SALUTE THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:25:28 I SALUTE THE MAYOR AND HER WONDERFUL STAFF FOR MAKING THIS
11:25:31 INTO A MAJOR ISSUE.
11:25:32 LIKE I SAID LAST WEEK, AGAIN, I SALUTE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:25:35 ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS CARE A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND
11:25:38 ARE PASSIONATE.
11:25:39 AGAIN, LIKE IT DID LAST WEEK, I THINK IT'S PROPER TO SINGLE
11:25:43 OUT DINGFELDER, CARLSON, AND GUDES FOR JUST CONTINUALLY
11:25:46 PUSHING THIS ISSUE, BY ALWAYS BELIEVING -- I ALWAYS BELIEVE
11:25:50 IN GIVING CREDIT.
11:25:52 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, SO I SALUTE THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:25:55 WE KNOW THAT THE BOTTOM HAS FALLEN OUT OF OUR ECONOMY.
11:25:57 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I SEE IT IN
11:26:00 THE CONTEXT OF OUR LARGER ECONOMY, THE OTHER ISSUES THAT
11:26:05 THIS TOUCHES.
11:26:07 A LOT OF US TALK ABOUT THE THINGS WE HEARD ON THE CAMPAIGN
11:26:10 TRAIL AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS IN CRISIS WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT
11:26:13 WAS 3.5, 4 PERCENT.
11:26:15 WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO FOLKS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
11:26:19 THINK ABOUT WHEN WE WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND WHAT WE
11:26:22 HEARD IN SEPTEMBER OF '18, OCTOBER OF 2018, ET CETERA, THOSE
11:26:27 STORIES AT THE TIME WERE REAL.
11:26:29 THEY REPRESENTED THE STRUGGLES OF FAMILIES AND FOLKS,
11:26:32 ET CETERA.
11:26:32 AND PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING THROUGH, YOU COULD CALL A CATEGORY
11:26:35 3 HURRICANE TWO YEARS AGO.
11:26:38 IMAGINE HOW THOSE ECONOMIC HURRICANES ARE FOR THOSE FAMILIES
11:26:43 NOW TWO YEARS LATER, UNEMPLOYMENT BETWEEN 10 AND 11 PERCENT.
11:26:46 THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT OF OUR ECONOMY DUE TO A PANDEMIC.
11:26:50 THE HITS THESE FAMILIES TAKE JUST GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER AND
11:26:53 BIGGER.
11:26:53 I LIKE THAT THE CITY IS MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS AND THESE
11:26:57 PARTNERSHIPS.
11:26:59 I LIKE TO SEE THE STATE OF FLORIDA MAKE BETTER INVESTMENTS
11:27:02 THAT ARE MORE ROBUST AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TOO.
11:27:05 WE MAKE INVESTMENTS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER
11:27:07 GOVERNMENTS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND NUMEROUS ENTITIES.
11:27:10 THE CITY CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING AT IT ALONE.
11:27:13 BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO MAKE OUR MARK THROUGH
11:27:16 LEADERSHIP, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:27:18 AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER LARGE ISSUE, WHICH IS OUR
11:27:22 BUDGET, ON A LARGER ISSUE, THE BUDGET OF A MUNICIPALITY, A
11:27:26 BUDGET OF THE GOVERNMENT IN THE TIME OF ECONOMIC LOSS.
11:27:29 IT'S BEEN IN THE MEDIA THAT OUR CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET IS
11:27:32 LARGER THIS YEAR.
11:27:35 BUT I HAVE A PRINCIPLE, WHICH IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE
11:27:38 HURTING, IT'S THE DUTY OF GOVERNMENT TO ACT AND USE THE
11:27:42 TOOLS IN GOVERNMENT'S TOOLBOX TO HELP THOSE HURTING PEOPLE
11:27:45 OUT.
11:27:46 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO CUT BACK, GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO
11:27:49 CORRESPOND IN THE TOOLS THAT HELP THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE
11:27:51 CUTTING BACK.
11:27:52 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POPULAR POLITICAL SLOGAN THAT SAYS THE
11:27:55 OPPOSITE, BUT I'VE ALWAYS RESPECTFULLY DISAGREED.
11:27:58 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FRAUD, WASTE, NEEDLESS PROGRAMS,
11:28:02 NEEDLESS POSITIONS.
11:28:04 I'M TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMS AND EFFORTS THAT ACTUALLY HELP
11:28:07 THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HURTING.
11:28:10 AND ONE OF THOSE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:28:13 THAT MEANS AFFORDABLE AND QUALITY HOUSING, BOTH WITH
11:28:16 OWNERSHIP AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS HAVE QUALITY
11:28:20 HOUSING.
11:28:20 AND IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY, AS COUNCIL GUDES HAS TALKED
11:28:24 ABOUT.
11:28:25 TAKE A LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN NORTH TAMPA, THE TIMBER
11:28:29 FALLS APARTMENTS.
11:28:30 THEY WERE THE SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES
11:28:34 BY EMILY MAHONEY, RATS, RODENTS, AC PROBLEMS BEING ALLEGED.
11:28:42 WE ALL HAVE TO USE, AS WE'RE DOING, OUR BULLY PULPIT ON
11:28:47 THESE ISSUES.
11:28:48 SAID A LOT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS, WHEN YOU SEE
11:28:51 SOMETHING WRONG, CALL IT OUT.
11:28:54 I WAS TALKING TO A FRIEND OF MINE ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, THAT
11:28:57 WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE TO CREATE ON ISSUES
11:29:00 LIKE HOUSING, MORE BEDFORD FALLS AND NO POTTERSVILLE, IF YOU
11:29:06 KNOW "IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE."
11:29:07 A LOT OF TIMES, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS TO SAIL AGAINST THE
11:29:10 WIND, AGAINST THE WIND OF NATIONAL TRENDS.
11:29:13 I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES, BUT WE HAVE A CERTAIN NATIONAL
11:29:17 ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO IS USING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE
11:29:21 HOUSING, A CONCERN FOR SO MANY WORKING FAMILIES AS A WEDGE
11:29:24 ISSUE.
11:29:25 IT'S AMAZING THAT WE ARE HERE IN THE YEAR 2020, WHERE
11:29:30 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS BEING USED AS A WEDGE ISSUE IN THE
11:29:33 SUBURBS NATIONALLY.
11:29:33 WE'VE HEARD STATEMENTS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT I ALWAYS
11:29:37 TELL PEOPLE WOULD MAKE GEORGE WALLACE IN 1968 BLUSH, AND
11:29:43 WE'LL SAIL AGAINST THE WIND ON THAT ISSUE IF WE HAVE TO AS A
11:29:46 CITY AND AS A COMMUNITY.
11:29:47 BUT TIMES ARE TOUGH, AND THEY ARE CERTAINLY GETTING TOUGHER.
11:29:50 AGAIN, I SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS PART OF A LARGER AGENDA
11:29:55 OF DIGNITY.
11:29:57 LET'S INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:29:58 LET'S DO AS WE TALKED ABOUT BETTERING OUR LAND USE CODE FOR
11:30:02 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ENCOURAGEMENT.
11:30:03 LET'S INVEST IN OUR BUDGET, IN RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR
11:30:06 FAMILIES AND IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO STRENGTHEN THE TIMES
11:30:11 BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND ALSO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK.
11:30:14 LET'S ENCOURAGE THROUGH THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF APPRENTICESHIPS
11:30:18 AND OUR CONTACTING PROCESS, A PIPELINE, NOT TO PRISON, AS
11:30:23 WE'VE OFTEN SEEN FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE, BUT ECONOMIC SECURITY
11:30:26 AND THE MIDDLE CLASS.
11:30:28 ALSO, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT MASS TRANSIT AND TRANSPORTATION
11:30:31 THAT PLAYS SUCH A PIVOTAL, DIRECTLY RELATED RELATIONSHIP AND
11:30:36 ROLE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PRIORITY FOR OUR
11:30:40 COMMUNITY.
11:30:40 IF THAT MEANS GOING BACK TO THE BALLOT IN 2022, THEN LET'S
11:30:45 DO THAT.
11:30:45 THAT'S OUR JOB TODAY IS TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES IN A TIME
11:30:48 OF ACUTE HITS TAKEN BY A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES HERE IN THE
11:30:52 CITY.
11:30:53 IT'S PART OF A LARGER AGENDA OF DIGNITY FOR WORKING
11:30:57 FAMILIES.
11:30:58 AND IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGAIN WAS PIVOTAL TWO YEARS AGO
11:31:02 AND WE'VE HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE CHAMPIONED IT AND I
11:31:05 SALUTE THEM ALL, IMAGINE TODAY, OUR WORLD HAS CHANGED, AND
11:31:10 IMAGINE THAT THAT CRISIS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT ON THE CAMPAIGN
11:31:14 TRAIL AND IMAGINE HOW IT IS TODAY.
11:31:15 IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
11:31:17 AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTING AND HAVING THIS
11:31:20 DISCUSSION.
11:31:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:31:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:24 WE HAVE ANOTHER PowerPoint PRESENTATION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO
11:31:28 BEGIN.
11:31:29 I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS AFTER THAT PRESENTATION.
11:31:31 BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH PART 2 OF THE DISCUSSION, GO
11:31:34 AHEAD.
11:31:36 >>CAROLE POST: OKAY.
11:31:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:37 I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND PARTICULARLY
11:31:40 RECOGNITION FOR VANESSA McCLEARY AND THE TEAM THAT HAVE
11:31:44 DONE ALL OF THE HEAVY LIFTING FOR MANY YEARS AND MOVING
11:31:47 FORWARD.
11:31:47 THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.
11:31:49 SO THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS A REFLECTION ON ONE OF THE TOOLS
11:31:54 IN OUR TOOL KIT.
11:31:55 AND IT IS ONE, AGAIN, IT'S ALSO RESPONSIVE TO A MOTION THAT
11:31:59 WAS MADE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO BY COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH
11:32:03 RESPECT TO THE STATUS OF THE CONTRACT THAT ARE THE ROOTS OF
11:32:10 THIS PARTICULAR ENGAGEMENT.
11:32:12 AS WITH THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A
11:32:14 GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REFLECTION ON
11:32:19 THE PROGRAM ITSELF, THE ORIGINS, THE STATUS OF IT, AND HOW
11:32:25 IT'S WINDING UP.
11:32:26 THIS WILL CONCLUDE AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, SO IT'S
11:32:29 A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT UPON IT.
11:32:31 AS WE SAID, THERE ARE MANY TOOLS THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED
11:32:36 IN ORDER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
11:32:37 THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
11:32:38 WE THINK THAT IT DID PROVIDE A GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS AND
11:32:42 ULTIMATELY WILL RESULT IN ALMOST A HUNDRED NEW PROPERTIES
11:32:49 BEING IN THE MARKETPLACE AND HAVING FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS
11:32:53 RESIDING IN THEM.
11:32:55 WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE DETAILS, BUT ALSO A GREAT DEAL
11:32:58 OF LESSONS LEARNED ABOUT HOW, AGAIN, THIS KIND OF DRUM BEAT
11:33:03 OF OUR GOVERNMENT SECTOR, NOT FOR PROFIT SECTOR AND OUR
11:33:06 PRIVATE SECTORS CAN ALL BECOME PART OF THE SOLUTION, WHETHER
11:33:10 IT'S ON INDEPENDENT PATHS OR COLLECTIVELY.
11:33:12 SO I'M GOING TO HAVE VANESSA CARRY THROUGH THIS
11:33:17 PRESENTATION.
11:33:18 SHE IS ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF THE PROGRAM AND HAS REALLY
11:33:22 BEEN SHEPHERDING FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF PLUS.
11:33:26 SO GREAT KUDOS TO HER.
11:33:28 IT IS NOT PERFECT.
11:33:30 WE ADMIT THAT.
11:33:31 THERE ARE MANY LESSONS LEARNED HERE, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO
11:33:37 MAXIMIZE THE POSITIVES THAT MOST DEFINITELY CAME AS A RESULT
11:33:42 OF THIS PROGRAM, AND ADAPT ACCORDINGLY MOVING FORWARD.
11:33:46 WE'LL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION WITH A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS
11:33:50 ABOUT WHERE WE TAKE THIS PATH AND HOW THIS CAN ALSO HELP
11:33:53 INFORM OUR ABILITY TO MEET OUR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY
11:33:58 OBJECTIVE.
11:33:59 WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO VANESSA.
11:34:01 THANK YOU.
11:34:01 >>VANESSA McCLEARY: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
11:34:04 SO NEXT SLIDE.
11:34:06 WE'LL GET INTO THE ACTUAL PROJECT, I JUST WANTED TO REFLECT
11:34:13 ON HOW WE CAME TO THE PROJECT.
11:34:15 NEXT SLIDE.
11:34:17 IN 2017, WE STARTED WORKING ON AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
11:34:23 HOUSING.
11:34:24 IT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
11:34:28 FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS.
11:34:30 SO NEXT SLIDE.
11:34:32 WE DID OUR AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING ANALYSIS
11:34:37 WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS
11:34:41 INITIATIVE.
11:34:41 THIS DOCUMENT WAS ONE OF THE SOURCE DOCUMENTS THAT THE
11:34:46 COMMITTEE HAD, AND SO IN THE ANALYSIS, YOU SEE THAT THERE
11:34:51 WAS A NEED TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
11:34:55 DEVELOP SUBSIDIZED INFILL HOME OWNERSHIP OPTIONS.
11:34:59 NEXT SLIDE.
11:34:59 ONE OF THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS THAT I SAW WHEN WE WERE DOING
11:35:06 THE ANALYSIS WAS THAT IN 1990 -- AND THESE ARE BASED ON
11:35:11 CENSUS DATA -- WE HAD A SMALL BUT DECENT SIZE RACIAL AND
11:35:21 ETHNIC CONCENTRATED AREA OF POVERTY.
11:35:24 IN 2000, WE SAW A DECREASE IN THOSE AREAS, AND THEN IN 2010,
11:35:31 THEY GOT LARGER.
11:35:33 AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT REALLY STRUCK US THAT OUR
11:35:38 RACIALLY AND ETHNICALLY CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY WERE
11:35:44 GROWING AND WHY THEY WERE GROWING.
11:35:45 A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH HUD'S POLICIES OF WHERE WE WOULD
11:35:49 DEPLOY FUNDING.
11:35:50 NEXT SLIDE.
11:35:51 AS WE WERE DOING THAT ANALYSIS, WE WERE ALSO HAVING A LOT OF
11:35:57 COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHICH WE TRADITIONALLY DO WITH OUR ANNUAL
11:36:02 ACTION PLAN AS WELL AS THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS AND JUST
11:36:07 ATTENDING SOME OF THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
11:36:10 AND THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICED THAT THEY WERE -- THERE WERE
11:36:13 COMPLAINTS ABOUT OVERGROWN LOTS, LOTS THAT HAD BECOME
11:36:16 DUMPING SITES.
11:36:18 WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT WE HAD -- HAD OVER A HUNDRED LOTS
11:36:24 THAT WERE UNDER MY CONTROL THAT WE WERE JUST PAYING TAXES
11:36:27 AND MOWING FEES ON.
11:36:30 WE WERE ALSO SEEING THAT PROPERTY VALUES WERE STAGNATING IN
11:36:34 SOME AREAS.
11:36:35 WE HAD NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS THAT WERE HAVING A HARD TIME
11:36:39 GETTING APPRAISALS FOR THEIR COSTS.
11:36:45 THEY WERE BUILDING HOUSING THAT HAD TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY
11:36:50 SUBSIDIZED TO COVER THEIR COST FOR THE HOUSING.
11:36:53 THEN AS THE MARKET WAS EXPANDING, IT WAS GETTING HARDER AND
11:36:59 HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO FIND HOMES TO PURCHASE.
11:37:01 SO WE HAD A LONG LIST OF -- FOR OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE
11:37:07 PROGRAM, PEOPLE THAT WERE QUALIFIED, WERE MORTGAGE READY,
11:37:12 BUT WHEN THEY WENT OUT TO FIND A HOUSE, THEY WERE IN A
11:37:15 COMPETING MARKET WITH INVESTORS AND OTHER FOLKS WHERE THEY
11:37:20 WEREN'T ABLE TO SECURE PROPERTY TO PURCHASE.
11:37:23 SO THAT RESERVATION JUST WENT AWAY AND THEY REMAINED
11:37:27 RENTERS.
11:37:27 NEXT SLIDE.
11:37:34 SO OUR PROPOSAL TO ADDRESSING ALL OF THIS WAS THAT WE HAVE
11:37:36 THE CITY-OWNED LOTS THAT ARE AN ASSET, BUT AREN'T REALLY
11:37:40 ACTING AS AN ASSET.
11:37:42 SO WE WANTED TO USE THOSE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
11:37:45 WE WANTED TO STABILIZE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE WERE
11:37:48 ALSO WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND HEARING ABOUT THE ISSUES
11:37:51 IN THE SCHOOLS.
11:37:52 AND WE KNOW THAT OUR SCHOOLS HAVE THESE HIGH TRANSITION
11:37:55 RATES.
11:37:57 THEY WERE SAYING THAT ALMOST 90% OF THE STUDENTS -- AND THIS
11:38:02 IS ESPECIALLY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, 90% OF THE STUDENTS HAD
11:38:05 STARTED THE SCHOOL YEAR AT THAT SCHOOL DIDN'T FINISH AT THAT
11:38:10 SCHOOL.
11:38:10 WELL, THAT BECOMES VERY DISRUPTIVE.
11:38:12 AND THEY WERE MOVING BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING COST BURDEN,
11:38:17 THAT FAMILIES, IF THE RENT WENT UP BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS,
11:38:20 THEIR INCOMES WEREN'T SUCH THAT THEY COULD AFFORD THAT
11:38:23 HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND SO THEY WERE MOVING.
11:38:27 WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS DIDN'T
11:38:32 REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BUILD AT THE RATE THAT WE NEEDED
11:38:35 BUILDINGS TO BE DONE.
11:38:37 NEXT SLIDE.
11:38:38 IN OUR ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM, WE PUT OUT AN RFP.
11:38:46 NEXT SLIDE.
11:38:47 AND FOR THAT RFP, WE SOLICITED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
11:38:53 DEVELOPERS TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO BID ON THE PROJECT,
11:38:56 BUT WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE PROPOSAL.
11:39:00 AND THAT PROJECT WAS NEHEMIAH PHASE TWO.
11:39:03 WE PUT OUT 18 LOTS.
11:39:05 WE GAVE A MILLION DOLLARS, AND THE ONLY THING WE SAID WAS
11:39:11 YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THAT MILLION DOLLARS BACK, BUT WHEN
11:39:13 YOU GET THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THE HOME, BUILD
11:39:17 ANOTHER SIX HOMES.
11:39:18 WITH THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS STILL ONGOING, THERE WERE A LOT
11:39:21 OF LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED, THAT THERE WAS DEFINITELY A HIGH
11:39:24 DEMAND FOR AFFORDABLE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING AND THE
11:39:27 NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T MATTER, THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE MORE
11:39:31 OPTIONS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING TO
11:39:34 BUY A HOME.
11:39:36 WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD QUICKLY
11:39:40 BECAUSE THE NONPROFIT PARTNER REBUILDING TOGETHER TAMPA BAY
11:39:44 THAT WAS HELPING US WITH THAT NEHEMIAH PROJECT WAS LOSING A
11:39:48 LOT OF PRODUCT TO THEFT.
11:39:53 AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT SUBSIDIZING THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T
11:39:58 ALWAYS HELP -- IT HELPED THAT PARTICULAR BUYER, BUT IT
11:40:02 DIDN'T HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:40:03 AND THAT WE NEEDED TO DECONCENTRATE POVERTY.
11:40:06 NEXT SLIDE.
11:40:07 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AND THIS IS WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS
11:40:14 TALKING ABOUT, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE
11:40:16 DONE OVER THE YEARS, AND THIS STARTS AT 2014, BECAUSE I
11:40:19 STARTED WITH THE CITY AT THE END OF 2013.
11:40:22 MY FIRST PROJECT WAS NEHEMIAH PHASE ONE.
11:40:26 FOR THAT PROJECT, WE PUT 1.4 MILLION TO GET 11 NEW HOMES AND
11:40:30 THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS 90,000.
11:40:33 NOW, THAT SALES PRICE WAS BASED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH
11:40:37 WE WERE BUILDING BECAUSE IT HAS SUCH A POOR REPUTATION.
11:40:42 IT HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T GOING RIGHT AND WE WERE
11:40:45 LOOKING TO TURN IT AROUND.
11:40:46 SO WE WANTED TO INCENTIVIZE FOLKS TO BUY IN THAT
11:40:49 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:40:49 WE ALSO COULDN'T GET APPRAISALS ABOVE THAT LEVEL.
11:40:53 IN 2015, WE WORKED WITH ONE OF OUR LONGTIME PARTNERS, CDC.
11:41:00 WE GAVE THEM 650,000 TO BUILD SEVEN HOMES, AVERAGE SALES
11:41:05 PRICE OF 165.
11:41:07 IT JUST GOES ON.
11:41:08 WORKING WITH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS, IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE
11:41:12 THEY MADE HOUSING AFFORDABLE AND IT CATERED TO THE
11:41:15 COMMUNITY, THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PRODUCE THE NUMBER OF
11:41:18 HOUSES THAT THERE WAS A DEMAND FOR.
11:41:23 SO WE HAD IMPLEMENTED A PROPERTY DISPOSITION PROGRAM IN 2017
11:41:29 AND THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, WE WERE PROVIDING LOTS FREE TO
11:41:33 DEVELOPERS.
11:41:34 MOSTLY WHO TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT PROGRAM, WE DID HAVE A
11:41:38 COUPLE OF FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS, BUT MOSTLY IT WAS HABITAT
11:41:41 FOR HUMANITY.
11:41:42 NEXT SLIDE.
11:41:43 SO FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, WE DECIDED WE WERE
11:41:49 GOING TO PUT OUT ANOTHER RFP AND IN PREPARING TO PUT THAT
11:41:53 OUT, WE WORKED WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY
11:41:58 COMMITTEE AND THEY HELPED US TO TALK TO A NUMBER OF
11:42:01 DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET
11:42:04 THEM TO RESPOND TO AN RFP.
11:42:07 AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD -- AND WE TALKED TO 11
11:42:11 DIFFERENT FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS, AND THEY WERE ALL SAYING
11:42:15 THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ECONOMY OF SCALE, SO THEY NEEDED A
11:42:19 MINIMUM OF 35 LOTS TO DEVELOP BECAUSE IT WAS A MATTER OF
11:42:23 PRODUCING A LOT OF HOUSING AT THE SAME TIME TO HELP REDUCE
11:42:28 THEIR COST.
11:42:29 NEXT SLIDE.
11:42:30 SORRY, NEXT SLIDE.
11:42:36 SO WHEN WE PUT THE RFP OUT, WE ADVERTISED IT IN THE
11:42:46 NEWSPAPER.
11:42:47 WE SENT IT TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS DIRECTLY.
11:42:52 WE HAD A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORKSHOP.
11:42:55 NEXT SLIDE.
11:42:56 AT THAT WORKSHOP, 18 DIFFERENT COMPANIES WERE REPRESENTED.
11:43:01 8 OF THOSE WERE MINORITY BUSINESSES.
11:43:03 5 WERE NONPROFITS.
11:43:05 IT WAS A TOTAL OF 30 PEOPLE.
11:43:06 NEXT SLIDE THAT ATTENDED THAT WORKSHOP.
11:43:11 SO WE WERE EXPECTING TO GET MORE OF A RESPONSE.
11:43:17 NEXT SLIDE.
11:43:18 THE PROPOSALS WERE DUE ON DECEMBER 5th AND AT THAT TIME,
11:43:23 WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE.
11:43:26 AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE DID THE NEHEMIAH PROJECT, WE ONLY
11:43:30 GOT ONE RESPONSE.
11:43:31 WE'VE DONE CHDO, RFPs, WE'VE ONLY GOTTEN ONE RESPONSE ON
11:43:37 MANY OF THEM.
11:43:38 WHEN WE GOT ONE RESPONSE ON THIS ONE, WE STILL TOOK IT TO
11:43:41 THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS MADE UP OF THREE OF OUR
11:43:47 AHAC MEMBERS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS,
11:43:51 ONE WAS PAMELA RUDD AND SHE WAS A BANKER, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS
11:43:55 LIKE TO HAVE A FINANCE PERSON, A DEVELOPER, FOLKS THAT ARE
11:43:59 GOING TO BE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO
11:44:02 EVALUATE THE PROPOSAL.
11:44:06 NEXT SLIDE.
11:44:08 SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE AWARDED THAT CONTRACT WAS BECAUSE
11:44:11 THE PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DOMAIN HOMES WAS A
11:44:16 COLLABORATION WITH THEM, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, CDC OF TAMPA,
11:44:23 AS WELL AS HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES, BECAUSE IN THEIR
11:44:25 PROPOSAL, THEY TALKED ABOUT FUNDING HOUSING COUNSELING
11:44:29 AGENCIES TO DO THE EDUCATION PORTION AND QUALIFYING THE
11:44:33 BUYERS FOR THE PROJECT.
11:44:35 WE USED FIRST HOUSING TO DISBURSE THE FUNDS BECAUSE WHAT WE
11:44:39 PROVIDED TO THEM WAS A REVOLVING LOAN FUND WHERE WE WANTED
11:44:44 OUR MONEY BACK AT THE END.
11:44:46 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
11:44:48 SO THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE FOR THAT PROJECT, THEY WERE
11:44:55 TO HAVE A MODEL HOME CREATED BY MARCH OF 2018.
11:45:00 THEY WERE TO -- SORRY, THEY WERE TO ACQUIRE THE LOT AND
11:45:06 DEVELOP THE MODEL HOME THAT WOULD BE OPEN BY JUNE OF 2018.
11:45:09 THEY WERE TO HAVE PULLED THEIR FIRST PERMIT JULY.
11:45:14 HAVE TEN HOMES DONE BY JANUARY OF THE NEXT YEAR, AND ALL OF
11:45:18 THE HOMES COMPLETED BY JANUARY OF 2021.
11:45:23 NEXT SLIDE.
11:45:24 SO WITH THAT PROPOSAL, WHAT WE PROVIDED TO THEM WAS AN
11:45:31 INVESTMENT ON THE CITY'S PART OF ABOUT 2.6 MILLION.
11:45:34 WE DIVIDED THE REVOLVER TO 1.1 MILLION FOR REVOLVING LOAN
11:45:43 FUND.
11:45:43 400,000 WAS A SUBSIDY DESIGNED FOR THE NONPROFIT AGENCIES
11:45:48 FOR HOMES SOLD TO ANYONE AT 80% OF AREA MEDIAN OR BELOW.
11:45:52 WE ALSO PROVIDED A LOT READINESS FUND, AND THAT WAS TO DEAL
11:45:57 WITH ISSUES THAT CONTRACTORS RUN INTO WHEN DEVELOPING LOTS
11:46:03 -- TREES, ASSESSMENTS, TITLE ISSUES.
11:46:08 WE ALSO PROVIDED 75,000 FOR A SUIT TO QUIET TITLE BECAUSE WE
11:46:14 DID HAVE TITLE ISSUES ON A NUMBER OF THOSE LOTS.
11:46:16 AND 95 LOTS THAT HAD AN ASSESSED VALUE OF 854,000.
11:46:21 NEXT SLIDE.
11:46:22 SO IN TERMS OF THE OUTPUT AND WHAT WE GOT FOR OUR INVESTMENT
11:46:28 -- NEXT SLIDE -- DOMAIN HOMES DID BUILD A MODEL HOME VALUED
11:46:32 AT 741,000.
11:46:35 IT ALLOWED THE BUYERS TO GO IN AND SEE, FEEL, TOUCH, AND
11:46:41 PICK WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE HOMES THAT THEY WERE PURCHASING
11:46:47 AND SELLING.
11:46:47 SO FAR THEY COMPLETED 63 HOMES.
11:46:53 THEY HAVE 13 UNDER CONSTRUCTION, TEN OF WHICH ARE UNDER
11:46:56 CONTRACT.
11:46:56 IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY DID UNDER OUR CONTRACT, THEY ALSO
11:47:01 DID TWO OWNER OCCUPIED REHABS, AND THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING
11:47:05 THEY DID OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTRACT ON THEIR OWN.
11:47:07 THEY PROVIDED STIPENDS TO FOUR DIFFERENT HOUSING COUNSELING
11:47:10 AGENCIES THAT TOTALED 126,000.
11:47:13 AND THEY INVESTED OVER $10 MILLION TO DATE.
11:47:17 THEY ALSO, THIS PROJECT INTRODUCED THEM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
11:47:22 AND THEY FUNDED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NONPROFITS AND
11:47:27 PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS IN THE AREA.
11:47:30 NEXT SLIDE.
11:47:31 SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHO WAS BUYING
11:47:35 THESE HOMES.
11:47:37 AND SO FAR, 72% OF THE HOMES WERE SOLD TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.
11:47:45 11% WERE SOLD TO HISPANIC.
11:47:47 3% TO ASIANS, AND 14% TO WHITE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD.
11:47:53 THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE OF THE HOME WAS 204,000.
11:47:57 THE AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENT WAS 1180.
11:48:01 SO THAT 1180 IS MUCH LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE ONE BEDROOM,
11:48:06 WHICH IS NOW RUNNING AROUND 1500 IN TAMPA.
11:48:10 NEXT SLIDE.
11:48:11 HABITAT WAS A PARTNER, AND THEY WERE PROVIDED WITH TEN LOTS.
11:48:17 SO FAR THEY HAVE SOLD EIGHT OF THOSE HOMES.
11:48:21 THEY HAVE TWO UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
11:48:23 THROUGH THE HABITAT MODEL, THEY ALWAYS DO SWEAT EQUITY.
11:48:27 THEY CONTINUED THAT WITH THIS PROJECT.
11:48:30 HABITAT INVESTED ABOUT 1.2 MILLION, AND THEY SPENT ABOUT
11:48:34 57,000 ON IMPACT FEES.
11:48:38 NEXT SLIDE.
11:48:41 60% OF THEIR HOMEOWNERS WERE AFRICAN AMERICANS.
11:48:44 30% WERE HISPANIC, AND 10% WERE WHITE.
11:48:48 THEIR AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS 191,000.
11:48:51 THEIR AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENT WAS $748.
11:48:55 THOSE HOMEOWNERS HAVE A BEAUTIFUL NEW HOME FOR HALF OF WHAT
11:49:01 SOMEONE IS SPENDING FOR A ONE BEDROOM.
11:49:05 THE BUYERS CONTRIBUTED SO FAR 2100 HOURS IN SWEAT EQUITY.
11:49:10 NEXT SLIDE.
11:49:13 THERE ARE SOME MISCONCEPTIONS AROUND HABITAT HOMES.
11:49:17 SO THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU WHAT THOSE HOMES LOOK LIKE.
11:49:22 THEY LOOK LIKE WHAT ANY OTHER BUILDER IS PUTTING INTO THE
11:49:26 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:49:26 THEY COME WITH LANDSCAPING.
11:49:28 THEY HAVE NICE FEATURES.
11:49:30 THEY ARE NOT JUST SQUARE BOXES.
11:49:33 NEXT SLIDE.
11:49:36 CDC WAS ALSO A PARTNER IN THIS COLLABORATION.
11:49:44 THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS THAT HAPPENED AS THEY WERE GOING
11:49:48 ALONG, AND SO THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR MOU UNTIL APRIL OF 2019.
11:49:55 SO FAR THEY COMPLETED THREE HOMES AND THEY HAVE THREE UNDER
11:49:58 CONSTRUCTION.
11:49:58 THEY HAVE INVESTED ABOUT $542,000.
11:50:02 NEXT SLIDE.
11:50:03 THEY ALSO ARE BUILDING BEAUTIFUL HOMES THAT HAVE STAINLESS
11:50:11 STEEL APPLIANCES, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS.
11:50:15 WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WAS BUILT THROUGH THE
11:50:17 COLLABORATION WAS AN ATTRACTIVE HOME THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE
11:50:22 INTERESTED IN BUYING.
11:50:23 WE DIDN'T WANT TO DOWNGRADE ANY OF THE FEATURES AND MAKE IT
11:50:28 SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, OH, THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE
11:50:31 HOUSE.
11:50:32 THEY ARE ALSO STAGING THOSE HOUSES, WHICH HAS HELPED TO MOVE
11:50:35 THEM IN TERMS OF SALES.
11:50:37 NEXT SLIDE.
11:50:38 IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES, AND WHEN WE DO A PROJECT, IT'S NOT
11:50:46 JUST ABOUT BUILDING THE HOMES.
11:50:49 NEXT SLIDE.
11:50:49 IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT IT DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:50:52 WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT PARTNERSHIP, WE HAVE A TOTAL
11:50:57 INVESTMENT OF JUST OVER $11 MILLION, ALMOST 12 MILLION, AND
11:51:03 SO FAR, WE'VE GOT 73 HOMES THAT WERE COMPLETED.
11:51:06 NOW, WHAT DID THAT DO FOR THE COMMUNITY?
11:51:09 NEXT SLIDE.
11:51:10 SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE IS THAT THE HOME VALUES WENT UP.
11:51:18 AND WHEN HOME VALUES GO UP, IT ALSO MEANS A BENEFIT TO
11:51:23 EVERYBODY ELSE THAT IS IN THAT EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
11:51:28 NEXT SLIDE.
11:51:30 WE ALSO SAW NEW CONSTRUCTION GO UP WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
11:51:37 SO WE HAD TOTAL SALES AND YOU'RE LOOKING THERE, THE BLUE IS
11:51:45 2018.
11:51:45 THE ORANGE IS 2019, AND THE GRAY IS 2020.
11:51:49 SO 2020, WE'RE NOT EVEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND SO
11:51:55 FAR WE'VE GOT 223 HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN SOLD.
11:52:05 IN TERMS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, LAST YEAR, WE HAD 61 NEW
11:52:09 HOMES.
11:52:09 THIS YEAR SO FAR WE HAVE 61 NEW HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT.
11:52:14 THESE NEW CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE SEEING MORE NEW CONSTRUCTION
11:52:18 HAPPENING THAT IS NOT -- DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF OUR FUNDING IN
11:52:22 IT.
11:52:23 AND THEN YOU ALSO SEE THE RESALE NUMBERS AND WHAT WAS DONE
11:52:28 BY DOMAIN.
11:52:29 NEXT SLIDE.
11:52:30 SO FROM 2012 TO 2017, THERE WERE 35 NEW HOMES BUILT IN EAST
11:52:39 TAMPA.
11:52:40 FROM 2018 TO JULY OF 2020, 140 NEW HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT.
11:52:47 SO WE HAVE STIMULATED THE MARKET, WHICH WAS ONE OF OUR
11:52:50 GOALS.
11:52:51 THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE IS NOW 209,000.
11:52:55 WE WENT FROM 170,000 AS AN AVERAGE TO NOW 209, BUT WE ARE
11:53:03 STILL BELOW THE 272,000, WHICH IS THE AVERAGE HOME SALES IN
11:53:09 TAMPA.
11:53:09 NEXT SLIDE.
11:53:12 SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROGRAM SUCCESSES, WE TOOK LOTS THAT
11:53:21 WERE A DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE GAVE THEM A NEW
11:53:24 PURPOSE, AND SO THAT ELIMINATED DUMPING SITES.
11:53:28 THAT IMPROVED PROPERTY VALUES.
11:53:31 THE PROPERTIES THAT WE PROVIDED WERE VALUED AT 854,000.
11:53:36 THEY ARE NOW VALUED AT OVER 16 MILLION.
11:53:39 WHICH RESULT IN ABOUT 270,000 A YEAR IN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY
11:53:44 TAX REVENUE FOR EAST TAMPA CRA.
11:53:47 WITH THOSE PROPERTY VALUES GOING UP, WE WERE ABLE TO
11:53:53 INCREASE EQUITY FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO WERE IN THE AREA AS WELL
11:54:02 AS LOWER THE MONTHLY HOUSING COST FOR THE HOME BUYERS.
11:54:05 WE WERE ABLE TO STIMULATE THE MARKET BY 350%.
11:54:09 WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR NONPROFIT AGENCIES.
11:54:13 SO ALL OF THOSE HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES NOW HAVE A NEW
11:54:17 REVENUE STREAM.
11:54:19 AND WE WERE ABLE TO STABILIZE THE HOUSING MARKET WITHIN THE
11:54:24 AREA.
11:54:26 NEXT SLIDE.
11:54:31 SO THIS IS JUST THE RECAP OF ALL THOSE POINTS OF WHAT WAS
11:54:35 THE BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS IN EAST TAMPA.
11:54:39 NEXT SLIDE.
11:54:41 WE STARTED OUT WITH A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY ISSUES, AND WE
11:54:48 WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEM THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
11:54:52 NEXT SLIDE.
11:54:52 WITH OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT, WE ALSO GET TO LOOK AT THE
11:55:03 FACT THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES TO A CONCLUSION, WE WILL
11:55:08 RECEIVE BACK THAT $1.1 MILLION REVOLVER.
11:55:12 SO WE HAD A RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF 4:1.
11:55:17 NEXT SLIDE.
11:55:19 SO WE DO KNOW THAT WITH EVERY PROGRAM, PROJECT, ANYTHING
11:55:27 THAT WE DO, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE CHALLENGES.
11:55:30 WE'RE NOT OBLIVIOUS TO THAT.
11:55:33 NEXT SLIDE.
11:55:34 IN TERMS OF REPLICATING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS WE KNOW THAT WE
11:55:39 HAVE LIMITED LOTS.
11:55:41 AND SO WE ARE IN NEED OF A MULTIPRONGED APPROACH TO
11:55:44 ACQUIRING PROPERTY AND MAKING SURE THAT IT REMAINS
11:55:49 AFFORDABLE.
11:55:50 WHEN IT CAME TO MESSAGING, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS I
11:55:53 THINK WE HAD WITH THIS PROGRAM IS THERE WAS A LOT OF
11:55:56 MISINFORMATION OUT THERE, AND WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE --
11:56:00 SORRY, I KNOW WE COULD HAVE DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB OF
11:56:04 PROMOTING THE PROGRAM AND PUTTING THE FACTS OUT.
11:56:09 WHEN IT CAME TO THE EQUITABLE SUPPORT, WE PROVIDED THE
11:56:14 FUNDING TO DOMAIN AND TO THE THREE PARTNERS, BUT THE FUNDS
11:56:19 THAT WERE MADE AVAILABLE WERE NOT EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED, WHICH
11:56:24 DID CAUSE CDC TO NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS THE OTHER
11:56:31 PARTNERS.
11:56:31 THE LOTS THAT WE PROVIDED, WE FOUND THAT THEY HAD A LOT OF
11:56:35 ISSUES.
11:56:36 THERE WERE TITLE ISSUES.
11:56:37 THERE WERE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
11:56:39 THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE OVERGROWTH AND THE TREES.
11:56:42 ALL OF THAT ADDED TO THE COST.
11:56:45 WE PROVIDED A LOT READINESS FUND TO ADDRESS THOSE COSTS, BUT
11:56:48 IT WAS NOT ENOUGH, INCLUDING WE PROVIDED FUNDING TO DO THE
11:56:54 SUITS TO QUIET TITLE, AND THAT WAS ALSO NOT ENOUGH FUNDING
11:56:57 TO COVER THOSE.
11:56:58 SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT ADDRESSING AS WE
11:57:02 MOVE FORWARD.
11:57:02 NEXT SLIDE.
11:57:03 SO WHEN WE LOOK BACK ON THIS PROJECT, IT ACHIEVED THE GOALS
11:57:11 THAT WE SET OUT TO ACHIEVE, AND IT HELPED US TO CREATE A
11:57:16 MARKET.
11:57:16 AND NOW THE MARKET IS TAKING OVER.
11:57:19 SO AS WE DRIVE THROUGH EAST TAMPA, YOU CAN SEE A SIGN FOR A
11:57:26 DOMAIN HOME, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE SIGNS OF OTHER DEVELOPERS
11:57:30 THAT ARE BUILDING WITHIN THE MARKET AND BRINGING MORE
11:57:33 AMENITIES AND HIGHER PRICED QUALITY HOUSING INTO THE AREA.
11:57:37 NEXT SLIDE.
11:57:39 SO IN TERMS OF OUR PATH FORWARD, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR,
11:57:47 DOMAIN WILL HAVE COMPLETED THEIR 75 HOMES.
11:57:52 20% OF THOSE HOMES WERE SOLD TO FAMILIES AT 80% OF AREA
11:57:57 MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW.
11:57:59 THE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY CALLED FOR 10%, SO THEY ACTUALLY
11:58:02 DOUBLED THAT.
11:58:02 AT THIS TIME, CDC AND DOMAIN ARE WORKING ON A MUTUAL
11:58:10 AGREEMENT TO DISSOLVE THEIR PARTNERSHIP.
11:58:11 CDC WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THE LOTS THAT WERE DESIGNATED
11:58:16 TO THEM.
11:58:18 THEY HAVE TEN PROPERTIES DESIGNATED TO THEM.
11:58:20 DOMAIN WILL NO LONGER BE OVER THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE LOTS
11:58:27 TO -- CDC WHEN THE DISSOLUTION OCCURS.
11:58:31 AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL GET THE
11:58:40 REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS BACK, AND WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS TO
11:58:45 FURTHER INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD ON INFILL LOTS.
11:58:51 WE ARE PROPOSING A COUPLE OF INCENTIVES.
11:58:58 THERE ARE THE ZONING INCENTIVES, BUT THERE ARE ALSO
11:59:02 INCENTIVES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT PROPOSING THROUGH OUR
11:59:07 DIVISION IN WAYS THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS TO HELP SPUR
11:59:12 ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE WE WANT TO CONTINUE
11:59:15 TO MAKE SURE -- THERE WERE CITY-OWNED LOTS THAT ARE IN THESE
11:59:21 NEIGHBORHOODS TERRORIZING THEIR NEIGHBORS WITH OVERGROWTH
11:59:26 AND BECOMING DUMPING SITES THAT COULD ALSO BE USED FOR
11:59:31 AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
11:59:32 SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN CAPTURE THOSE PROPERTIES AND
11:59:35 PUT THEM BACK INTO THE MARKET.
11:59:37 NEXT SLIDE.
NONE OF THIS IS DONE BY ONE PERSON.
11:59:43 SO IT TAKES A TEAM.
11:59:45 AND THIS IS THE CITY TEAM THAT WORKED ON THE PROJECT.
11:59:49 SO THERE WERE FOLKS FROM MY DIVISION AS WELL AS FROM THE
11:59:53 REAL ESTATE DIVISION, AND LEGAL.
11:59:58 NEXT SLIDE.
12:00:01 AND SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE
12:00:04 WITH THAT PROGRAM.
12:00:06 AND AT THIS POINT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE HAPPY
12:00:10 TO ANSWER.
12:00:10 >> CHAIR, I KNOW IT WAS A VERY LENGTHY PRESENTATION.
12:00:19 IT WAS INTENDED TO REALLY GET INTO SOMEWHAT THE WEEDS OF
12:00:24 THIS PROGRAM, AS I THINK MANY OF US KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN
12:00:26 MANY OPINIONS ABOUT THE.
12:00:29 AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT IT SO WE
12:00:32 WANTED TO TRY TO CLARIFY THE HISTORY AND ORIGIN AND ITS
12:00:37 CURRENT STATE.
12:00:37 AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE ARE VERY
12:00:41 HONEST AS WELL ABOUT GAPS AND WHAT OUR PLANS WOULD BE TO
12:00:45 FILL THOSE MOVING FORWARD.
12:00:47 SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE VANESSA AND HER TEAM FOR CARRYING THE
12:00:51 LIST ON THIS.
12:00:52 AND I RECOGNIZE WE ARE CLOSE TO THE LUNCH HOUR.
12:00:54 WE ARE HAPPY TO STAY AROUND AND TAKE QUESTIONS, HOWEVER YOU
12:00:58 SEE FIT.
12:00:58 THANK YOU.
12:00:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:01:01 I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND A LOT OF EFFORT AND TIME
12:01:05 FOR THE PRESENTATION AND IT ANSWER AS LOT OF QUESTIONS.
12:01:08 I AM GOING TO START DOWN THE LINE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
12:01:10 AND GO FROM THERE.
12:01:12 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:01:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, THERE ARE SO MANY THAT I WILL JUST
12:01:17 HOLD TO ANOTHER DATE WHEN I MEET IN PERSON AND GO TOGETHER
12:01:21 ON IT AND I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
12:01:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:01:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:01:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:01:29 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:01:32 I WILL DISCUSS LATER ON.
12:01:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:01:37 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, THANK YOU.
12:01:40 I HAVE HAD PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THIS, TOO,
12:01:42 AND I APPRECIATE THEM CLARIFYING FOR THE PUBLIC ALL THE
12:01:45 DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS.
12:01:48 I THINK ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK I HEARD FROM OTHER
12:01:53 DEVELOPERS AND PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT IS JUST THAT THEY
12:01:56 THOUGHT THE POLITICAL CLIMATE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO WAS
12:02:00 NOT SUCH THAT THEY WOULD BE AWARDED AN RFP.
12:02:03 SO I AM GLAD NOW, AND THAT HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY SEES IT AS A
12:02:08 TRANSPARENT PROCESS, AND THAT IT GIVES A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
12:02:15 TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE NEED ALL THE MONEY WE CAN GET AND
12:02:19 ALL THE EFFORTS WE CAN GET.
12:02:20 WITH EVERYTHING WE WILL DO, BENEFITS TO AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM.
12:02:25 THANK YOU ALL.
12:02:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:02:27 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
12:02:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:02:34 JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
12:02:35 CAROLE OR VANESSA, I'M NOT SURE WHO WANTS TO ANSWER THIS.
12:02:39 FIRST OFF, LET ME SAY THAT I THINK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES
12:02:46 HAVE TAKEN POT SHOPS AT AMANDA UNFAIRLY.
12:02:50 WE HAVE HEARD IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
12:02:52 WE HAVE HEARD IT OVER THE LAST YEAR, A LITTLE BUTT LESS.
12:02:55 BUT I THINK IT'S UNFAIR, BECAUSE AS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER,
12:02:59 THEY WERE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY JUST DOING THEIR OWN THING.
12:03:02 BUT THEN THEY SAW THIS FEED AND THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A
12:03:05 GOOD MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITIES AND THEY WOULD STEP UP AND
12:03:07 SEE IF THEY COULD HELP.
12:03:09 AND I COMMEND THEM FOR DOING THAT.
12:03:14 VANESSA, YOU MENTIONED A $10 MILLION INVESTMENT.
12:03:17 WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS AS PART OF THE REPORTING
12:03:20 REQUIREMENTS, DO WE KNOW WHAT SORT OF PROFIT OR LOSS THAT
12:03:25 DOMAIN OR THIS DIVISION OF DOMAIN OBTAINED OR LOST, GETTING
12:03:33 INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT?
12:03:34 IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOMAIN LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE
12:03:38 BACKING AWAY A LITTLE BIT NOW WITH THE CDC, AND NOT BACK
12:03:42 AWAY FROM THE WHOLE PROGRAM, WHEN THEY GET DONE WITH THE
12:03:44 INITIAL PART OF IT.
12:03:45 BUT IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN SELL TO OTHER FOR-PROFIT FOLKS
12:03:50 AND SAY, COME JOIN US, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY
12:03:55 DOMAIN MADE?
12:03:56 DO WE KNOW THOSE FIGURES?
12:03:57 DO WE HAVE THOSE FIGURES?
12:03:59 >> WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE FIGURES.
12:04:00 BUT WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
12:04:02 DEVELOPERS WHO EVERYBODY SAT ON THE SIDELINES AND DIDN'T
12:04:08 WANT TO BE THE FIRST ONES IN THAT ARE NOW READY TO GET INTO
12:04:11 IT THE PROGRAM, IF WE WOULD LAUNCH AGAIN.
12:04:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:04:18 I AM GOING TO INQUIRE PRIVATELY WITH DOMAIN AND SEE IF THEY
12:04:21 CAN HELP US ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A KEY
12:04:26 QUESTION, IS THIS A PROFIT-MAKING VENTURE FOR A PRIVATE
12:04:31 COMPANY OR IS THIS A LOSER?
12:04:33 MY NEXT QUESTION RELATES TO COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
12:04:36 AND I THINK I SAW ON ONE OF THE SLIDE IT TALKS ABOUT A
12:04:39 99-YEAR LEASE, PROPERTY OWNER, PROPERTY OWNERS OVER A
12:04:44 99-YEAR PERIOD.
12:04:47 IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT CERTAIN LENDERS WILL LEND TO
12:04:55 SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO BUILD ON LEASED PROPERTY?
12:05:04 >>VANESSA MCCLEARY: YES.
12:05:05 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LENDERS, AND THE LIST KEEPS GROWING AS
12:05:08 THE PROGRAM HAS BECOME MORE AND MORE POPULAR.
12:05:13 THE 99-YEAR LEASE IS AKIN TO OWNERSHIP.
12:05:18 AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S PHRASED THAT WAY.
12:05:22 BUT IT KEEPS RENEWING.
12:05:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
12:05:26 RIGHT.
12:05:26 OKAY.
12:05:27 SO THAT'S NOT A BARRIER, THAT'S NOT A BARRIER, LIKE IF WE
12:05:31 COME UP WITH X NUMBER OF LOTS, AND WE PUT THEM INTO THE
12:05:35 COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, IT'S NOT A BARRIER FOR PEOPLE TO COME
12:05:40 ALONG AND BE ABLE TO BUILD THE TRADITIONAL HOME AND GET A
12:05:44 MORTGAGE FOR IT, ET CETERA?
12:05:47 >>VANESSA MCCLEARY: CORRECT.
12:05:48 NOT A BARRIER.
12:05:49 >>CAROLE POST: THIS IS CAROLE POST TO SORT OF FOLLOW YOUR
12:05:54 TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.
12:05:55 THAT IS IN FACT WHAT VANESSA AND HER TEAM ARE TO AN EXTENT
12:05:59 PROPOSING.
12:05:59 IT'S IN VERY LARGE PRELIMINARY PAGES, BUT BUILDING ON THE
12:06:03 ASPECTS OF THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THOSE
12:06:05 SUCCESSFUL ASPECTS, CAST A WIDER NET, AND ENABLE OTHER
12:06:11 PRIVATE AND FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS TO PARTICIPATE IN IT.
12:06:14 BUT THAT THE UNDERLYING LAND WOULD FLOW THROUGH THIS
12:06:18 COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
12:06:19 THAT'S ONE THING THAT DID NOT EXIST FOR THESE 95 PARCELS.
12:06:24 WHILE THEY DO HAVE SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL MAINTAIN
12:06:27 SOME SUSTAINABILITY, I THINK TEN YEARS, AT SOME POINT, THOSE
12:06:31 RESTRICTIONS FALL OFF, AND THERE'S NO FURTHER HARD RAILS.
12:06:36 SO WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT FUTURE PROGRAMS OF THIS SORT WOULD
12:06:39 FLOW THROUGH THE CLC AND HAVE MUCH LONGER TERM
12:06:43 SUSTAINABILITY FOR AFFORDABILITY.
12:06:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
12:06:53 IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY, FOR THE SIZE OF THE PROGRAM, AS
12:07:00 WE START SEEING THE COMMUNITY EFFORT, AND TALKING ABOUT THE
12:07:06 AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, OR THE CITY LAND TRUST, OR
12:07:13 SOME OF THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU
12:07:21 BRING THEM TO COUNCIL AND CODIFY IN THE CODE IN SOME FORM OR
12:07:25 ANOTHER -- (LOST AUDIO).
12:07:36 >> SORRY.
12:07:36 SAY THAT AGAIN?
12:07:37 >> MR. DINGFELDER, ARE YOU STILL ON THE CALL?
12:07:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER DISCONNECTED?
12:07:44 >>THE CLERK: I SHOW HIM STILL BEING ON THE LINE.
12:07:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT THE LAND USE CODE.
12:07:53 SO AS WE GET SOME OF THESE IN PLACE, LET'S THINK ABOUT DOING
12:07:57 THAT.
12:07:58 >>CAROLE POST: OKAY.
12:08:02 >> THANK YOU.
12:08:06 YOU APPRECIATE IT.
12:08:06 WE MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR THOUGHT BUT I THINK I CAN
12:08:09 FOLLOW ALONG.
12:08:10 AS I SAID, WE ARE RELYING ON FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION WHO
12:08:14 BROUGHT A GREAT DEAL OF BEST PRACTICE TO THE TABLE, REALLY
12:08:18 DEMONSTRATING FOR US HOW OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE THIS
12:08:21 SUCCESSFULLY, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE
12:08:25 APPROACHES BEFORE ALL THAT GETS FINALIZED.
12:08:29 THANK YOU.
12:08:29 I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.
12:08:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:36 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
12:08:40 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES?
12:08:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU HEAR ME, SIR?
12:08:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:08:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SORRY, SIR.
12:08:50 MS. POST, I'M SORRY.
12:08:51 I DIDN'T RETURN YOUR PHONE CALL.
12:08:53 I GOT IN LATE LAST NIGHT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING
12:08:56 BACK TO YOU LAST NIGHT.
12:08:58 LET ME START, EAST TAMPA HAS A LOT OF LOTS.
12:09:02 THEY MAY BE CITY OWNED OR THEY MAY BE JUST LOTS THAT ARE
12:09:05 OVERGROWN, OLD ABANDONED HOUSES THAT MIGHT BE PRIVATE.
12:09:09 I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE LOTS AS WELL THAT ARE
12:09:15 UNDEVELOPED, HOUSES THAT ARE DILAPIDATED, FALLING DOWN, SEE
12:09:19 IF WE CAN TRY TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THOSE PRIVATE LOTS TO BE
12:09:23 ABLE TO ADD TO THE STOCK OF HOUSES IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA.
12:09:26 I THINK THAT'S -- MAYBE CRA START LOOKING AT MAYBE
12:09:30 PURCHASING SOME OF THESE LOTS TO CLEAN UP THE PLACE.
12:09:33 AGAIN I LOOK AT BEAUTIFICATION.
12:09:34 WHEN PEOPLE SEE THINGS THAT ARE MOVING IN THE RATE
12:09:36 DIRECTION, THEY HAVE A BUY-IN AND YOU GET ECONOMIC
12:09:39 EMPOWERMENT.
12:09:40 SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION, TALK ABOUT
12:09:43 EAST TAMPA AND BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM TO ACQUIRE
12:09:48 THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION AND HELPING THE REAL ESTATE
12:09:52 DEPARTMENT TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS TO GET SOME OF THESE
12:09:55 UNDERUTILIZED LOTS IN THE AREA.
12:09:57 NUMBER TWO, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE DOMAIN HOMES SITUATION.
12:10:01 I SIT ON THE BOARD WHEN DOMAIN WAS WORKING BUT I HEAR YOU
12:10:09 BUT THERE WERE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE I WAS AT THE TABLE
12:10:11 WITH DOMAIN AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AND WE
12:10:13 THOUGHT DOMAIN WAS NOT TRUTHFUL AT THE TIME WHEN WE ASKED
12:10:16 FOR SOME INFORMATION AND CAME BACK AND KIND OF BLIND-SIDED.
12:10:21 SO YES, THEY ARE A GOOD COMPANY, AND AT TIMES THERE WAS A
12:10:25 LACK OF COMMUNICATION ABOUT SOME ISSUES.
12:10:27 BUT I AM GLAD TO SEE THEM 22ND STREET, 21st THAT WE HAVE
12:10:31 SOME HOMES THAT LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
12:10:33 I GUESS I AM KIND OF BIASED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I KIND OF
12:10:36 LIKE -- AND I CAN TELL YOU, MAYBE I AM BIASED BECAUSE THE
12:10:44 WAY WHEN THERE IS A BRAND NEW HOME, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A
12:10:49 BIG, BIG HOOPLA FOR A FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A NEW
12:10:53 PLACE, AND TO SAY I HAVE A PLACE TO LAY MY HEAD, WE HAVE GOT
12:10:59 A HOME.
12:10:59 I GUESS THAT'S MY LITTLE BIAS.
12:11:01 BUT AGAIN, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AS WELL, BUT I AM JUST HOPING
12:11:07 THAT WE CAN GET AGAIN MORE PEOPLE AS PART OF THE PROCESS
12:11:09 NOW.
12:11:10 I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME TRANSPARENCY.
12:11:13 WE HAD SOME GOOD POINTS AND WE HAD SOME LOW POINTS IN THE
12:11:16 PROGRAMS.
12:11:16 SO GOING FORWARD I AM HOPING THAT AGAIN WE DO BETTER, WE GET
12:11:19 MORE RED AND GET THINGS MOVING, AND I DO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE
12:11:27 A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LOTS THAT HAVE JUST TORN-DOWN BUILDINGS
12:11:30 ON THERE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR REHAB.
12:11:33 MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE HOMES THAT NEED SOME TENDER
12:11:36 LOVING CARE AND PURCHASE SOME HOMES, WE SELL THEM AND SEE
12:11:39 HOW WE CAN GET OUR MONEY BACK ON THE BACK END AS IT RELATES
12:11:42 TO SOME OF THE STOCK ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
12:11:45 LAST, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS FOR A LONG
12:11:52 TIME, THE BIG DEVELOPER STAKEHOLDERS, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
12:11:56 I HEAR THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT -- I SAY
12:12:01 ABOVEBOARD.
12:12:02 I GUESS NOW WITH THE DOMAIN SITUATION, WE KIND OF SEVERED
12:12:08 TIES.
12:12:09 >>VANESSA MCCLEARY: NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
12:12:24 I WILL SAY THEIR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN TENUOUS THROUGHOUT.
12:12:29 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO NEGOTIATE THROUGH THAT.
12:12:33 AND I THINK SEVERING TIES IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY FORWARD.
12:12:36 AND SO WE ARE FACILITATING THAT PROCESS, AND HOPEFULLY WE
12:12:43 WILL GET EVERYBODY WHERE THEY NEED TO BE SO WE CAN DO THAT.
12:12:48 AND AGAIN, IT'S A LESSON LEARNED IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE
12:12:53 THAT WE WOULD PUT INTO AN AGREEMENT, JUST MAKING SURE THAT
12:12:56 IT IS TIGHTER AND WELL DEFINED AS TO WHO IS ENTITLED TO
12:13:02 WHAT, EVEN THOUGH THEY BROUGHT THE PARTNERSHIP TO US, WE
12:13:07 COULD HAVE DONE MORE TO PROTECT THE NONPROFITS.
12:13:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:13:17 WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE
12:13:21 LOTS THAT YOU HAVE, RUNDOWN HOUSES OR HOUSES THAT COULD HAVE
12:13:25 BEEN -- AND TRYING TO OBTAIN SOME OF THESE THINGS AND
12:13:34 [RUSTLING PAPERS]
12:13:35 >>VANESSA MCCLEARY: THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE ACTIVELY
12:13:37 LOOKING AT.
12:13:37 SO YES, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, ONCE WE GET THE COMMUNITY
12:13:42 LAND TRUST DEVELOPED THAT WE WOULD THEN START AN AGGRESSIVE
12:13:47 PROGRAM TO ACQUIRE AND ADD PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN THEN
12:13:53 BEAUTIFY.
12:13:53 WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE VACANT LOTS, LIKE YOU SAID,
12:13:58 THAT ARE A DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT HAVE TAX LIENS
12:14:03 AND THAT WE FORECLOSE ON THOSE AS A WAY OF ACQUIRING.
12:14:07 WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT PROPERTIES THAT IT'S NOT CLEAR WHO
12:14:09 THE OWNER IS.
12:14:12 FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER PASSED AWAY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY
12:14:14 FAMILY OR THE FAMILY DIDN'T WANT THE PROPERTY, AND SO THOSE
12:14:18 ARE ALSO OUT THERE.
12:14:20 WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE LOTS TO SEE HOW WE CAN
12:14:23 BETTER UTILIZE THEM.
12:14:25 >>CAROLE POST: THIS IS CAROLE POST AGAIN.
12:14:27 JUST TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL DIMENSION TO THAT CONCEPT.
12:14:30 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AROUND IDENTIFYING SOME OF IT.
12:14:37 THERE IS A REFRESH PROGRAM, I WOULD SAY, INITIATED BY AN
12:14:44 OFFICIAL WHO RECONNECTED WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM AND
12:14:47 OUR CRA LEADERSHIP WHO HAVE VERY MUCH BEEN TRYING TO
12:14:50 ADVOCATE FOR THE CONDEMNATION OF ABANDONED, DILAPIDATED,
12:14:57 UNINHABITABLE HOMES THAT HAVE BECOME EYESORES AND FRANKLY
12:15:03 VERY UNSAFE SITUATIONS, AND REALLY WE WERE A LITTLE BIT IN
12:15:07 OUR OWN WAY, AND SO I CREDIT JOHN HUTCHINSON WHO HAS
12:15:13 RECONNECTED WITH SOME OF THE PARTNERS ACROSS THE CITY.
12:15:15 THEY DID A FIELD TRIP A WEEK OR SO AGO.
12:15:18 I THINK THEY SAW ABOUT 12 OR 18 PROPERTIES IN A DAY THAT
12:15:22 WERE VERY QUICK TO BE ABLE AND VERY DECISIVE, I THINK, ABOUT
12:15:25 SAYING THIS HOME IS NOT REHABABLE, AND IT'S NOT JUST AN
12:15:30 EYESORE BUT IT'S AN UNSAFE SITUATION.
12:15:32 SO THEY ARE TAKING VERY SWIFT ACTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
12:15:35 SOME CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS AROUND THESE VACATED,
12:15:38 ABANDONED PROPERTIES.
12:15:40 JUST AGAIN ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLKIT.
12:15:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:15:44 BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING, MAKING
12:15:48 SURE THAT WE ARE FAIR TO PEOPLE, AND IF WE ARE DOING IT
12:15:51 MAKING SURE THAT EVERY AVENUE FOR THE HOMEOWNER, SOMEBODY TO
12:15:55 MAKE SURE THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY CAN DO TO FIX IT OR THEY
12:15:58 WANT TO GIVE IT TO THE CITY OR WE CAN GIVE THEM SOMETHING
12:16:01 FOR THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL AVENUES COVERED,
12:16:08 RATHER THAN THE CITY TAKING SOMEBODY'S HOME OR PROPERTY, I
12:16:11 WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL AVENUES COVERED.
12:16:14 >> AGREED.
12:16:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I YIELD BACK TO THE CHAIR.
12:16:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:16:18 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:16:19 >>LUIS VIERA: NONE, MR. CHAIR.
12:16:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:16:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
12:16:24 AND MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS OFFLINE, I TALKED TO EACH ONE
12:16:30 OF YOU AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE POWER
12:16:33 POINT AND ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS.
12:16:35 I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO SEE SUCCESS AND WE WANT TO SEE
12:16:39 IMPROVEMENT, WE WANT TO SEE RESULTS.
12:16:41 ALL RIGHT.
12:16:43 IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THERE'S ONE OTHER ITEM IF WE WOULD
12:16:49 LIKE TO TAKE THAT UP.
12:16:54 IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, I BELIEVE.
12:16:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.
12:17:01 IF I MAY.
12:17:02 IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO 12:00 AND I WANT TO --
12:17:07 >>> IT'S AFTER 12:00.
12:17:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:17:10 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GIVEN THE AMPLE TIME IT
12:17:12 DESERVES.
12:17:13 SO I AM WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHETHER
12:17:15 WE SHOULD BREAK, OR WE CAN HEAR THIS NOW AND WAIT FOR A
12:17:21 BREAK OR CLOSE TILL LATER ON.
12:17:23 IT'S UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:17:24 I'M JUST ASKING.
12:17:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PROBABLY GIVE US A BREAK BECAUSE WE ARE
12:17:27 VIRTUAL SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN.
12:17:31 IT'S BETTER THAT WE DON'T.
12:17:32 IF WE WERE ON CAMERA AND IT'S ON VIDEO LIKE TONIGHT WILL BE,
12:17:37 THEN IT'S DIFFERENT.
12:17:38 BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A LENGTHY DISCUSSION.
12:17:40 BUT I SPEAK FOR MYSELF WHEN I SAY THAT.
12:17:44 IF ANYONE IS READY TO PRESENT, GO AHEAD AND WE'LL GO INTO
12:17:50 NEW BUSINESS.
12:17:52 IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO PRESENT ON THIS FINAL ITEM?
12:17:59 >>RUSSELL HAUPERT: THIS IS RUSSELL HAUPERT.
12:18:02 BASICALLY, I CAN GIVE US A RECAP OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS
12:18:05 ITEM.
12:18:05 AND WITH OTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON IT.
12:18:09 AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS SEVERAL MONTHS
12:18:14 AGO.
12:18:15 WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO TO GO GREEN.
12:18:19 THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE GAVE US PERMISSION TO MOVE AHEAD
12:18:22 WITH SOME EMERGENCY FUNDING, AND ON THE COUNCIL'S PART AND
12:18:29 THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S PART TO BE A GREAT STEP IN DIRECTION,
12:18:32 BECAUSE WITH US GOING FULLY VIRTUAL AND THE INITIAL COST OF
12:18:38 EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEEDED IN PLACE IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF
12:18:40 THOSE THINGS, IT BECAME AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION FOR US.
12:18:44 SO JUST AS A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH
12:18:49 YOU TO PUT IN PLACE iPads AND LAPTOPS JUST UNDER $10,000
12:18:57 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT.
12:18:58 WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED 3200 A YEAR IN CELLULAR DATA PLANS THAT
12:19:03 GO ALONG WITH THAT.
12:19:05 WE DEPLOYED LICENSING FOR ABOUT $6700 IN UP-TO-DATE SOFTWARE
12:19:11 FOR YOUR OFFICE, I-TEAMS AND OTHER COLLABORATION SOFTWARE.
12:19:16 FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, MY INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGER, MY
12:19:21 CHANGE MANAGEMENT FOLKS AND OUR BUSINESS APPLICATION FOLKS,
12:19:24 YOU KNOW, ERIC MARYLAND AND JOE HICKEY ALL WORKED WITH THE
12:19:31 CLERK'S OFFICE, YOUR OWN EXECUTIVE AIDES, TO HELP MOVE
12:19:37 FORWARD A COUPLE OF THINGS, GET YOU TRAINED WHERE YOU NEED
12:19:40 TO BE AS FAR AS USING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE, AND THE
12:19:43 SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY.
12:19:45 AND I FEEL WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS THERE, AND I THINK
12:19:49 WE HAVE ENABLED A LOT OF WHERE YOU NEEDED TO GO FROM A
12:19:53 GENERAL STANDPOINT IN GOING GREEN.
12:19:56 WE HAVE SOME TRAINING THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP.
12:19:59 WE HAD SOME SO FAR.
12:20:01 WE HAVE ONE COMING UP WITH YOUR STAFF.
12:20:02 AND SO FROM THIS POINT ON, SAY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT WHERE
12:20:06 WE ARE?
12:20:07 AND DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE
12:20:10 TO SEE US TAKE IN TERMS OF HELPING YOU GO A LITTLE BIT
12:20:14 FURTHER ALONG THIS PATH?
12:20:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, UNDER THE
12:20:21 CIRCUMSTANCES YOUR ITEM.
12:20:22 WOULD YOU LIKE TO START IT OFF?
12:20:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
12:20:26 FIRST I WANT TO SEND OUT MUCH KUDOS TO THE I.T. TEAM.
12:20:30 THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
12:20:33 ESPECIALLY WITH THE COVID CRISIS.
12:20:37 AND THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY ADAPTIVE.
12:20:40 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM NOW ON MY CITY-ISSUED iPad.
12:20:48 THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO ME.
12:20:49 I HAVE BEEN USING A COMPUTER DURING MY VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD
12:20:52 ERA.
12:20:53 I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN
12:20:56 GET THEM OUT SO MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THEM.
12:20:58 FIRST OFF, HOW MUCH DOES THE CITY COUNCIL SPEND -- (LOST
12:21:05 AUDIO).
12:21:08 PRINTER CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK IT
12:21:13 CONSUMES THE STAFF AND THE AIDE, AND HOW MUCH WASTE ARE WE
12:21:20 TAKING OUT OF THIS BUSINESS BECAUSE OF PAPER USE?
12:21:24 SECONDLY, IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT ARE THE BEST WAYS TO MOVE
12:21:28 FORWARD THROUGH I.T. SUPPORT AND THE FUNCTION OF CITY
12:21:33 COUNCIL AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND ALL OTHER IMPACTED
12:21:37 OFFICES STILL TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT, SAVING
12:21:42 TAXPAYERS DOLLARS?
12:21:45 IF YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE TWO QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE EXTREMELY
12:21:48 HAPPY.
12:21:48 >> WELL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I AM GOING TO SPECULATE.
12:21:54 THIS IS RUSSELL, CITY OF TAMPA AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD.
12:21:58 IF I CAN SPECULATE ON THE FIRST ONE, I DIDN'T PUT A LOT OF
12:22:03 WORK INTO FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE DO.
12:22:06 BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IN MY PREVIOUS JOB AT A COUNTY,
12:22:14 BEFORE I CAME TO THE CITY HERE, WE HAD GONE THROUGH A
12:22:16 SIMILAR PROCESS, AND WE FOUND THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SPENT AS
12:22:19 MUCH AS 8 TO $10,000 A YEAR IN COPYING COSTS AND JUST IN
12:22:26 DIRECT PAPER AND COPYING COSTS TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL
12:22:30 PROCESS.
12:22:31 WHEN YOU ADD IN THE STAFF TIME THAT IS DOING THAT, IT'S
12:22:37 CONCEIVABLE THAT WE MIGHT SAVE $10,000 A YEAR ENERGY AND
12:22:42 CONVENIENCE IN DOING THAT.
12:22:43 I CAN CERTAINLY PULL THROUGH AND FIND BETTER NUMBERS FOR US.
12:22:47 BUT TO GIVE YOU AN ORDER OF SCALE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A
12:22:53 NUMBER BASED ON AMOUNT OF HAND WORK THAT GOES INTO GETTING
12:22:56 THE DOCUMENTS TO THOSE FOLKS.
12:22:58 NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S A
12:23:02 VARIETY OF -- SOMETIMES ELECTRONIC IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU ARE
12:23:07 ON THE BUS OR SITTING ON THE BEACH, SOMETIMES HAVING THAT
12:23:10 PAPER COPY CAN BE A NICE THING.
12:23:12 AND WE DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS
12:23:16 FIND, YOU KNOW, A BOON TO THEIR WORK STYLE, BUT WE DO FEEL
12:23:21 THAT BY DEPLOYMENT, NOT ONLY HAVE WE ENABLED YOU TO WORK
12:23:26 FROM WHEREVER YOU HAPPEN TO BE WITH THE LIMITS OF
12:23:30 CONNECTIVITY IN THE CELLULAR SYSTEM TODAY, BUT WE ALSO GIVE
12:23:34 YOU THE ABILITY TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE.
12:23:36 AND WE ARE SAVING A LOT OF PAPER COSTS AS WE BRING PEOPLE
12:23:40 TOWARD THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF GETTING USED TO PULLING THINGS
12:23:43 UP ON THEIR iPad AND DOING THEIR RESEARCH IN THAT
12:23:46 DIRECTION.
12:23:47 YOU KNOW, SECONDARILY, WHERE WOULD I GO FROM HERE?
12:23:52 I DON'T WANT TO PUSH TECHNOLOGY ON FOLKS.
12:23:54 BUT I FEEL LIKE THESE COVID TIMES MADE US ALL BE A LITTLE
12:24:00 MORE FLEXIBLE.
12:24:01 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXECUTIVES AND COUNCIL TRAINED AS FULLY
12:24:07 AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE IN ALL THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WE DO
12:24:10 HAVE AT THEIR DISPOSAL.
12:24:12 I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE A MEETING THEY WANT TO SET
12:24:14 UP THEY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
12:24:16 I KNOW FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE
12:24:20 THAT THE SYSTEMS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ON A REGULAR BASIS ARE
12:24:24 UPGRADED AND REPLACED AS PART OF YOUR NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS.
12:24:28 I KNOW THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN A PRIORITY, BUT I THINK THAT
12:24:32 AGAIN, IN THESE DAYS AS YOU CAN SEE, A POWER OUTAGE, A
12:24:37 STORM, HAVING A SECONDARY DEVICE AND A WAY TO GET IN CAN BE
12:24:41 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING ABLE TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING
12:24:44 AND NOT HAVING A FORUM TO HAVE ONE.
12:24:49 SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER MOVING
12:24:51 FORWARD.
12:24:51 AGAIN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT I WOULD JUST SAY IS I WOULD
12:24:54 LIKE A CHANCE TO FURTHER SIT DOWN WITH YOU.
12:24:56 I KNOW ERIC, AND MY STAFF HAS DONE A LOT OF INITIAL WORK,
12:25:01 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND CHAT WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS
12:25:04 AND YOUR STAFF AND SAY WHERE ELSE CAN WE TAKE YOU ON THIS
12:25:07 JOURNEY AND LET'S LOOK FOR WHERE THOSE ADDITIONAL SAVINGS
12:25:09 ARE.
12:25:10 AND I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO NOT FOCUS JUST ON SAVINGS AND
12:25:14 PAPER OR GOING GREEN, WHICH IS A GOOD THING IN ITS OWN, BUT
12:25:18 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW CLOSER CAN WE BRING YOU TO A FASTER
12:25:23 PROCESS?
12:25:24 HOW MUCH BETTER CAN WE GET INFORMATION TO YOU?
12:25:27 HOW CAN WE SMOOTH THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS
12:25:32 THROUGH THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY?
12:25:33 AND IF WE CAN DO THAT, IF WE CAN HELP YOU BECOME MORE
12:25:36 EFFECTIVE IN YOUR DAILY WORK, THEN I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE
12:25:39 REAL SAVINGS IS GOING TO BE.
12:25:41 AND UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY -- THAT'S MY BASIC COMMENT.
12:25:46 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DIG IN A LITTLE BIT, LET ME KNOW.
12:25:49 IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH FOR
12:25:52 SPECIFICS, I CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
12:25:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:25:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:25:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
12:25:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS.
12:26:00 YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T NECESSARILY DO AWAY WITH
12:26:04 PAPER.
12:26:04 THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL OLD SCHOOL.
12:26:07 BUT IN THE FUTURE, WE MAY BE FACING SOME EMERGENCIES.
12:26:12 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE LIKE COVID, BUT THERE IS GOING
12:26:15 TO BE A TIME WHEN, YES, WE WILL BE APART FROM ONE ANOTHER
12:26:19 AND I FEEL THAT YOUR TEAM HAS REALLY TAKEN US TO THE NEXT
12:26:24 STEP BY OFFERING iPads, COMPUTERS, AND A CONNECTIVITY THAT
12:26:28 WE WILL NEED IN CASE OF ANOTHER EMERGENCY.
12:26:30 SO AGAIN, I THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
12:26:33 MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:36 AND QUICKLY, UPGRADING SIRE AND LOOKING AT A MORE MODERNIZED
12:26:43 SYSTEM, MORE EFFICIENT, I HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT ALL THE
12:26:48 TIME.
12:26:48 WE CAN LOOK AT A NEW MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THAT CALIBER
12:26:53 BETTER, I THINK THAT SIRE IS A LITTLE OUTDATED FOR OUR
12:26:57 NEEDS.
12:26:57 BUT YOU HAVE DONE A LOT.
12:26:58 YOU HAVE ANSWERED A LOT.
12:26:59 YOU ARE MAKING STRIDES.
12:27:01 I MYSELF DO NOT LIKE TO USE PAPER.
12:27:04 I DO PRINT UP THE CALENDAR.
12:27:06 I PRINT UP AN AGENDA.
12:27:07 BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I TRY TO DO DIGITALLY AND ELECTRONICALLY
12:27:10 SINCE I GOT ELECTED IN 2015.
12:27:12 I BROUGHT MY OWN iPad.
12:27:16 I AM JUST USED TO BEING ON MY PHONE AND DOING EVERYTHING
12:27:19 DIGITAL.
12:27:20 SO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
12:27:23 ON THIS ITEM?
12:27:29 OKAY.
12:27:31 GREAT.
12:27:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:27:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:27:35 ALL RIGHT.
12:27:36 WE WILL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
12:27:38 I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
12:27:40 NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
12:27:42 I AM GOING TO BEGIN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:27:46 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, SIR?
12:27:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
12:27:50 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:27:50 JUST REALLY QUICK IF I MAY.
12:27:52 I WAS GOING TO PRESENT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION
12:27:55 AT A TIME TO BE DETERMINED AT A LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED,
12:27:57 BUT NOT A PERSON TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE I WILL HEREBY
12:28:01 SPECIFY JUDGE GREG HOLDER WHO WILL BE RETIRING, AND I THINK
12:28:07 IT IS LIKE 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR HIS YEARS OF
12:28:12 SERVICE TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE 13th JUDICIAL
12:28:15 CIRCUIT AS A JUDGE.
12:28:17 HE'S A GREAT INDIVIDUAL.
12:28:18 WHEN I GOT SWORN IN, IN DECEMBER OF 2016, I CHOSE JUDGE
12:28:22 HOLDER TO SWEAR ME IN BECAUSE I THINK HE'S A GOOD PERSON.
12:28:25 SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT COMMENDATION AT A TIME AND A
12:28:28 DATE TO BE DETERMINED TO THIS FINE GENTLEMAN.
12:28:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:28:35 CITRO.
12:28:35 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS?
12:28:37 I HEAR NONE.
12:28:38 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, YOU GOT IT, SIR.
12:28:42 APPROVED.
12:28:45 ANYTHING ELSE?
12:28:45 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
12:28:46 NOTHING ELSE, MR. CHAIR.
12:28:48 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:28:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:28:49 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
12:28:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:28:56 JUST A COUPLE.
12:28:59 CHAIR OF THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, REQUESTING HE COME
12:29:02 BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE
12:29:05 BUDGET LAST WEEK.
12:29:07 I MOVE BE ADDED TO THE CITY AGENDA NEXT THURSDAY MORNING
12:29:12 SEPTEMBER 3rd FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:29:13 SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
12:29:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:29:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:29:18 MIRANDA.
12:29:18 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS?
12:29:23 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE APPROVED THAT.
12:29:26 WHAT ELSE, SIR?
12:29:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP FOR DISCUSSION
12:29:31 THE DIVERSITY POSITION FOR THE 9-3-2020, SIR.
12:29:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAY THAT DATE AGAIN?
12:29:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEPTEMBER 3rd, SIR.
12:29:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 3rd.
12:29:50 ALL RIGHT.
12:29:50 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:29:51 I HEARD CITRO?
12:29:53 ACTUALLY, COULD WE MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT LATER?
12:29:56 THAT'S A VERY BUSY MEETING DAY.
12:30:01 THEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING THAT NIGHT.
12:30:04 COULD WE PUSH IT BACK TO PERHAPS THE 17th OF SEPTEMBER?
12:30:08 THAT'S ANOTHER REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
12:30:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS TRYING TO PUSH IT SO IT WOULDN'T BE
12:30:14 A BUDGET ISSUE.
12:30:16 I HAD CONVERSATION.
12:30:18 SO IT WOULDN'T BE A BUDGET CONCERN COMING UP.
12:30:21 THAT'S WHY I PUT IT ON SEPTEMBER 3rd.
12:30:23 BUT I THINK THE SECOND HEARING FOR THE BUDGET ON THE
12:30:26 17th, THE EVENING?
12:30:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SECOND HEARING IS THE 16th.
12:30:30 SO IT WOULD BE -- ALL RIGHT.
12:30:32 IF YOU WANT TO DO SEPTEMBER 3rd, CONSIDERING THE BUDGET.
12:30:36 I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I BELIEVE.
12:30:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.
12:30:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, CITRO.
12:30:41 A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION
12:30:45 OR OPPOSITION TO THIS?
12:30:47 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE APPROVE THAT.
12:30:50 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:30:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE ONE LAST ONE THAT'S VERY DEAR TO
12:30:55 ME.
12:30:56 THIS LAST WEEK, SOME INFORMATION TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
12:31:01 STAFF AND TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
12:31:02 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE RACIAL CONCILIATION
12:31:06 RESOLUTION TO THE SEPTEMBER 3rd REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
12:31:10 FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND VOTE.
12:31:12 IF THAT DATE IS AN ISSUE WE CAN MOVE IT, SIR.
12:31:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 3rd, YOU SAID, SIR?
12:31:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
12:31:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:31:22 IT'S A VERY BUSY DAY.
12:31:24 IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT OR ANY DISCUSSION?
12:31:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD YOU REPEAT THE MOTION?
12:31:30 I MISSED IT.
12:31:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF YOU COULD REPEAT
12:31:34 THE MOTION.
12:31:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE
12:31:37 RACIAL CONCILIATION RESOLUTION TO THE SEPTEMBER 3rd
12:31:40 REGULAR SCHEDULED AGENDA FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND
12:31:45 VOTE.
12:31:47 >> SECOND.
12:31:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:31:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS VIERA THAT WAS READY TO SECOND IT
12:31:58 AND I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:32:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:32:03 ANY OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION?
12:32:04 ANY DISCUSSION?
12:32:09 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THIS IS APPROVED.
12:32:11 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
12:32:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:32:16 I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE LAST VOTE AND THE LAST MOTION
12:32:19 THAT WAS MADE.
12:32:20 THANK YOU.
12:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:21 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
12:32:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD TODAY.
12:32:29 THANK YOU.
12:32:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:30 MEMBER CARLSON.
12:32:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MR. CHAIR.
12:32:34 I HAVE TWO CONFLICT FORMS THAT I HAVE FILED WITH THE CLERK'S
12:32:39 OFFICE.
12:32:40 AND SO I NEED APPROVAL OF THAT, I THINK BY UNANIMOUS
12:32:44 CONSENT.
12:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?
12:32:51 >>BILL CARLSON: TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:32:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COULD WE GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
12:32:55 FILE THOSE DOCUMENTS?
12:32:58 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:33:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ANY OBJECTION?
12:33:05 ALL RIGHT.
12:33:05 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE ARE GOOD.
12:33:07 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING ELSE?
12:33:09 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE MORE COMMENT ON THE VIRTUAL
12:33:13 CONVERSATION A FEW MINUTES AGO.
12:33:14 I PREFER ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION AND PARTICIPATION AS WELL.
12:33:20 SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT IS
12:33:22 DOING TO GO THAT WAY.
12:33:26 IT'S BEEN GREAT NOT HAVING TO PRINT PAPER.
12:33:27 THANK YOU.
12:33:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:33:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:33:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:33:34 I HAVE JUST ONE ITEM, PER THE REQUEST OF THE PLANNING
12:33:37 COMMISSION.
12:33:38 I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE A PLAN AMENDING ADOPTION HEARING FOR
12:33:42 TACP 19-18 AG, AND TACPA 19-21.
12:33:54 FROM SEPTEMBER 24th, 2020, TO OCTOBER 22ND, 2020, AND
12:34:01 DIRECT LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE
12:34:04 FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:34:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THIS MOTION?
12:34:13 >> SECOND.
12:34:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:34:17 ANY OBJECTION?
12:34:20 ANY DISCUSSION?
12:34:22 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THAT IS APPROVED.
12:34:25 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:34:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING MORE, MR. CHAIR.
12:34:29 THANK YOU.
12:34:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:34:30 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:34:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PERMISSION TO MAKE COMMENDATION FOR
12:34:35 RETIREMENT WHO IS LEAVING THE GREAT CITY OF TAMPA ON OCTOBER
12:34:39 2nd FOR DEBBY ROTOLLO WHO HAS BEEN HERE FOR SOME PERIOD
12:34:43 OF TIME HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.
12:34:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:34:49 ANY OBJECTION?
12:34:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO OBJECTION BUT YOU JUST WANT TO CHIME
12:34:58 IN, IN CASE DEBBY OR JOHN BENNETT IS LISTENING.
12:35:03 UNFORTUNATELY WITH COVID, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE DEBBY AND
12:35:08 GIVE HER THE COMMENDATION PERSONALLY.
12:35:10 BUT I KNOW WE ALL WANT TO WISH HER WELL.
12:35:14 SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, I THINK SHE WROTE ME THE OTHER DAY THAT
12:35:18 SHE'S BEEN AT THIS FOR 42 YEARS, WHICH MEANS SHE MUST HAVE
12:35:21 STARTED WHEN SHE WAS TEN.
12:35:23 BUT ANYWAY, SHE'S AN AMAZING PERSON.
12:35:26 SHE'S BEEN AN AMAZING ASSET TO OUR CITY.
12:35:28 AND SHE'S A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING.
12:35:30 WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER BADLY.
12:35:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:35:37 AND I BELIEVE TAMPA CATHOLIC CRUSADER AS AM I AND A BELOVED
12:35:42 MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS.
12:35:44 I HESITATE TO SAY YES TO THIS MOTION BECAUSE WE NEVER WANT
12:35:48 TO SEE ANYONE LIKE HER GO, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE
12:35:53 APPRECIATE HER SERVICE TO THIS CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
12:35:56 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
12:35:59 ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, MOTION IS
12:36:03 PASSED.
12:36:04 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
12:36:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, QUICKLY.
12:36:13 JUST TO FOLLOW UP.
12:36:14 OR WE CAN WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK WHEN MR. JOHNSON COMES IN FROM
12:36:18 THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT COUNCILMAN GUDES ASKED
12:36:21 THE QUESTION ABOUT HAVING QUARTERLY MEETINGS, AND I
12:36:24 RESEARCHED THROUGH THAT RESOLUTION REGARDING THE BUDGET
12:36:27 ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THAT,
12:36:30 AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO SET UP A SCHEDULE.
12:36:34 SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT NEXT WEEK, OR TAKE IT FROM THERE.
12:36:38 THANK YOU.
12:36:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:36:41 I HAVE NOTHING.
12:36:42 WE WILL MEET THIS EVENING VIRTUALLY AT 5:01 P.M.
12:36:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ANOTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:36:50 I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
12:36:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:36:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
12:36:53 I NEVER HAD A P-CARD ISSUED TO ME BECAUSE I NEVER WANTED
12:36:57 ONE, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE ABOUT ALL OF THIS, UNDER MAYOR
12:37:02 GRECO, MAYOR IORIO, MAYOR BUCKHORN AND NOW MAYOR CASTOR, I
12:37:07 DON'T THINK I EVER HAD A P CARD.
12:37:09 I CAN CHECK ON THAT TO SEE IF I EVER SPENT ANY OF THAT
12:37:12 MONEY.
12:37:12 AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO ASK FOR THAT MONEY NOW.
12:37:15 AND THE REASON I HAVEN'T ASKED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR I
12:37:17 HAVEN'T ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THESE DISCUSSIONS,
12:37:20 BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
12:37:21 BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL, SINCE I DON'T HAVE A
12:37:25 P-CARD, TO PUT MY SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT EVERY OTHER
12:37:29 MEMBER HAS, ABOUT $2900 A YEAR, FOR EXPENSES COMING OUT
12:37:33 WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE AND SPEND YOUR OWN MONEY.
12:37:36 THAT IS YOU HAD TO GO BECAUSE YOU ARE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER,
12:37:39 AND YOU SHOULD GO.
12:37:41 AND I WONDER IF I COULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE
12:37:44 COUNCIL IF IT'S POSSIBLE, LEGALLY POSSIBLE, TO PUT THAT
12:37:49 MONEY, AND WHAT I HEARD TODAY, THEY HAD THE ONE TAMPA
12:37:53 501(C)3 TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT MONEY GOES SOMEWHERE AND
12:37:56 I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO IF THIS
12:38:00 COUNCIL LET'S ME AND THE ADMINISTRATION APPROVES, TO LET
12:38:03 THAT MONEY THAT I SHOULD GET, ABOUT $2900 A YEAR, 241 A
12:38:09 MONTH WHATEVER IT COMES TO, TO PUT THAT TO RING TIME THAT I
12:38:14 HAVE ON THIS COUNCIL AND FROM THE TIME I GOT ELECTED IN THIS
12:38:17 ELECTION, TO BE GO BACK A YEAR AND A HALF, SO I COULD HAVE
12:38:19 SOME MONEY GIVEN TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.
12:38:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED AN OFFICIAL MOTION ON THAT OR
12:38:26 IS THAT JUST A REQUEST OF THE ADMINISTRATION?
12:38:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST ADMINISTRATION.
12:38:30 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGALLY POSSIBLE.
12:38:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, YOUR THOUGHTS?
12:38:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE A REPORT IN
12:38:38 WRITING TO YOU ABOUT THIS ISSUE?
12:38:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAH, I WOULD LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
12:38:43 WRITE ON IT.
12:38:44 I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION WITH IT.
12:38:46 NO REFLECTION ON YOU, MARTY.
12:38:50 BUT, IN FACT, I AM WILLING TO EVEN PAY THE TAX ON THE MONEY
12:38:55 THOUGH I AM NOT GOING TO GET IT.
12:38:57 IF THEY WOULD PUT IT IN THAT ACCOUNT, I AM NOT TRYING TO
12:39:00 BYPASS THE TAXING AREA.
12:39:02 BUT THAT MONEY I AM ENTITLED TO.
12:39:04 I DON'T WANT IT.
12:39:04 I DON'T WANT TO -- AND I WANT TO GIVE IT AWAY TO AFFORDABLE
12:39:08 HOUSING IF I CAN DO THAT AND MAYBE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF
12:39:10 COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME IN SOME ASPECTS TO ANY AMOUNT.
12:39:14 OR MAYBE SOME CITY EMPLOYEES OR SOME CITY UNIONS WOULD LIKE
12:39:18 TO GET INVOLVED AND PUT A POT OF MONEY TO BUILD ONE HOUSE.
12:39:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD ON.
12:39:28 >>MORRIS MASSEY: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
12:39:36 I LISTENED TO THAT, MR. MIRANDA, AND SEE IF THAT'S
12:39:39 APPROPRIATE OR HOW WE CAN DO THAT IN A WAY THAT WORKS.
12:39:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
12:39:45 >>MORRIS MASSEY: LET ME GO BACK AND CHECK WITH FOLKS HERE
12:39:49 AND ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE
12:39:52 MANNER YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND IF WE CAN'T, ANOTHER WAY TO
12:39:55 MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
12:39:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED ON THAT, IF
12:40:00 YOU WANT TO DO A WRITTEN REPORT, MR. MASSEY?
12:40:02 >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF I COULD COME BACK IN 30 DAYS.
12:40:06 IT MAY TAKE LESS THAN THAT BUT I NEED TO MAKE INQUIRIES.
12:40:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
12:40:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S SAY OCTOBER 1st.
12:40:14 THAT'S A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, OVER 30 DAYS.
12:40:17 HOW ABOUT THAT?
12:40:18 >>MORRIS MASSEY: PERFECT.
12:40:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
12:40:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:40:24 MR. MIRANDA -- I BOUGHT ALL MY OWN FURNITURE AND MY
12:40:31 SUPPLIES.
12:40:32 I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO GIVE TO THE PUBLIC
12:40:35 ART DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I ALSO THINK THAT ART AND PUBLIC ART
12:40:38 DRIVES JOBS, AND THEY NEED MORE FUNDING IN THAT AREA.
12:40:42 BUT MORRIS, I HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH THE CFO AND
12:40:46 WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF WHO HAS ALSO SPOKEN TO THE CFO.
12:40:50 YOU MAY GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THERE.
12:40:52 BUT I THINK IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE CLARIFICATION, I THINK
12:40:56 GIVING IT TO A NONPROFIT, MINE GOES TO A DIFFERENT
12:40:59 DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY.
12:40:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE.
12:41:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SORRY.
12:41:10 GO ON.
12:41:10 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE MAY BE ISSUES WITH HOW THAT'S
12:41:16 ALLOCATED AND DONE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I NEED TO
12:41:19 TALK TO THE CFO AND CHIEF OF STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO IT
12:41:22 THAT WAY.
12:41:23 I CAN THINK OF A COUPLE OF ISSUES POTENTIALLY BUT CERTAINLY
12:41:26 THESE ARE THINGS YOU ALL WANT TO DO, AND I WILL RESEARCH IT
12:41:31 AND GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND WE'LL HAVE A WRITTEN
12:41:34 REPORT.
12:41:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:41:36 OCTOBER 1st.
12:41:37 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:41:39 WHO WAS THE SECOND, CITRO?
12:41:42 WHO WAS THE SECOND?
12:41:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:41:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION?
12:41:50 HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT.
12:41:51 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
12:41:53 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:41:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.
12:41:56 THANK YOU.
12:41:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:41:59 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING?
12:42:02 5:01 THIS EVENING.
12:42:03 CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
12:42:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:42:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO RECEIVE
12:42:09 AND FILE.
12:42:10 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:42:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
12:42:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:42:14 ANY OBJECTION?
12:42:16 HEARING NONE, PASSED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
12:42:18 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:42:18 THANK YOU.
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