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CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2020
9:00 A.M.



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09:06:00

09:06:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:06:12 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:06:12 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

09:06:15 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO

09:06:17 ORDER.

09:06:18 IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

09:06:20 >>THE CLERK: YES, VIERA?

09:06:23 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:06:25 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?

09:06:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:06:30 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?

09:06:31 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:06:31 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?

09:06:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M HERE.

09:06:36 GOOD MORNING.

09:06:37 >>THE CLERK: GOOD MORNING.

09:06:38 THANK YOU.





09:06:38 CITRO?

09:06:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:06:39 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?

09:06:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:06:44 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?

09:06:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:06:47 MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:06:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:06:56 THANK YOU.

09:06:56 MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL

09:06:59 ATTORNEY.

09:06:59 GOOD MORNING.

09:06:59 TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2020.

09:07:03 AND THIS VIRTUAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING HELD

09:07:06 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS OF THE

09:07:09 GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER 20-69 AND 20-193, AS THEY MAY BE

09:07:17 FURTHER EXTENDED AND EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED

09:07:20 AND AMENDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

09:07:22 BEING CONDUCTED BY AUDIO TELECONFERENCING ONLY WITH VIDEO

09:07:26 PRESENTATIONS.

09:07:26 REMOTE PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF

09:07:29 FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA

09:07:33 TECHNOLOGY.

09:07:35 THE MEETING IS AVAILABLE TO BE VIEWED BY THE PUBLIC ON CABLE

09:07:38 TV AND THE INTERNET.





09:07:40 WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED HAVE BEEN

09:07:45 DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL.

09:07:46 THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PRERECORDED,

09:07:52 WHICH WILL BE PLAYED, AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO APPEAR ON PHONE

09:07:57 LIVE.

09:07:58 AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, THEY

09:08:01 CAN USE THE FACILITIES AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.

09:08:04 THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I TURN THE MEETING TO YOU.

09:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:08:09 IF YOU ALL COULD PLEASE MUTE YOURSELVES IF YOU'RE NOT

09:08:13 SPEAKING AT THIS TIME.

09:08:14 INSTEAD OF AN INVOCATION THIS MORNING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO

09:08:18 TAKE A MOMENT OF, I GUESS, PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND EXPRESS MY

09:08:21 SINCEREST CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND REPRESENTATIVE

09:08:26 DIANNE HART ON THE PASSING OF HER SON, WHICH WAS A FEW DAYS

09:08:31 AGO.

09:08:32 I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES.

09:08:35 I'M SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL FEELS THE SAME WAY.

09:08:40 WE'RE WITH HER IN PRAYER AND IN OUR THOUGHTS IN THIS VERY,

09:08:44 VERY DIFFICULT TIME.

09:08:45 BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

09:08:47 NEXT, WE'LL GO TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

09:08:49 IF YOU COULD JOIN ME, PLEASE.

09:08:51 AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO STAND.

09:08:54 I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF





09:08:56 AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION

09:08:59 UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

09:09:02 OKAY.

09:09:02 THAT SETTLES THAT.

09:09:02 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:09:06 WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO THE LIVE SPEAKER FIRST.

09:09:09 MADAM CLERK.

09:09:13 >>THE CLERK: YES, SIR.

09:09:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY DO WE HAVE?

09:09:17 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN THAT REQUESTED TO

09:09:19 SPEAK.

09:09:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A TIMER HERE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO

09:09:25 BEGIN, I'M READY TO GO.

09:09:27 >>THE CLERK: THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE IS GARY GOULD.

09:09:34 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.

09:09:37 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:09:39 >> HI.

09:09:40 I'M GARY GOULD.

09:09:42 I'M HERE TODAY AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY.

09:09:46 [AUDIO INTERFERENCE] I'M GOING TO BEGIN WITH A STORY THIS

09:09:55 MORNING ABOUT THE BRILLIANT SCHOLAR RABBI HILLEL IN THE

09:10:02 FIRST -- [NO SOUND]

09:10:17 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?

09:10:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

09:10:19 DID WE LOSE HIM?





09:10:27 >>THE CLERK: WE CANNOT HEAR HIM, BUT HE'S STILL ON.

09:10:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

09:10:29 LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER AND WE'LL GO BACK TO HIM.

09:10:32 PERHAPS HE HAS JUST A CONNECTION ERROR.

09:10:42 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT PERSON WE HAVE IS JOSEPH PROBASCO.

09:10:46 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:10:48 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:10:49 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

09:10:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

09:10:51 GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:10:52 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS JOE PROBASCO.

09:10:54 I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPRESS MY PERSONAL SUPPORT AND

09:10:57 THE SUPPORT OF TAMPA'S JEWISH COMMUNITY FOR COUNCILMAN

09:11:01 ORLANDO GUDES RECONCILIATION RESOLUTION WHICH I BELIEVE IS

09:11:05 ITEM 33 ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

09:11:06 MY FAITH TEACHES ME THAT WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN

09:11:11 ACTIONS, AND IF WE COMMIT AN ACTION WHICH IS WRONG, WE MUST

09:11:16 SEEK FORGIVENESS FROM THOSE WE HAVE HARMED OR HURT.

09:11:19 THE TOPICS ADDRESSED IN COUNCILMAN GUDES' MOTION ARE

09:11:22 COMPLICATED AND UPSETTING.

09:11:24 BUT I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE CONVERSATIONS

09:11:27 OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, AND COLLEAGUES HAVE

09:11:31 BEEN ATTEMPTING TO HAVE WITH US FOR MANY YEARS BUT SADLY

09:11:37 FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.

09:11:39 I'M HOPEFULLY TODAY IS THE DAY THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY TRULY





09:11:42 START TO LISTEN.

09:11:43 I FULLY APPRECIATE THAT LISTENING MAY BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES

09:11:46 BECAUSE WHAT WE HEAR WILL BE PAINFUL AND WILL MAKE US

09:11:49 UNCOMFORTABLE.

09:11:50 BUT AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO GET COMFORTABLE HAVING

09:11:54 UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS IF WE EVER DESIRE TO TRULY TAKE

09:11:58 A MEANINGFUL STEP FORWARD.

09:12:00 HISTORY CONFIRMS THE FACTS SET FORTH IN THE MOTION AND THE

09:12:04 RECENT REPORT PUBLISHED BY THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP EXPOSES

09:12:07 THE GROSS INEQUITIES THAT CONFRONT OUR TAMPA AFRICAN

09:12:10 AMERICAN COMMUNITY ACROSS ALL FACETS ON A DAILY BASIS.

09:12:15 THESE ARE COMPLEX ISSUES.

09:12:16 THERE'S NO QUICK FIX, BUT I KNOW EACH OF YOU WILL AGREE THAT

09:12:20 TAMPA DESERVES BETTER, AND WITH THE RIGHT MIND-SET, WE CAN

09:12:24 CONQUER THESE CHALLENGES AS A COMMUNITY.

09:12:27 I APPLAUD COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR SPONSORING THIS MOTION AND

09:12:30 OUR CITY COUNCIL FOR HEARING IT THIS MORNING.

09:12:33 A VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION WOULD BE A BOLD AND

09:12:35 COURAGEOUS STEP FORWARD, A FIRST AND NECESSARY STEP ON THE

09:12:40 LONG ROAD TO FORGIVENESS AND RECONCILIATION.

09:12:43 I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME THIS MORNING.

09:12:45 THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.

09:12:46 THANK YOU.

09:12:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

09:12:55 IS THE FIRST GENTLEMAN ON THE LINE?





09:12:57 >>THE CLERK: HE IS STILL THERE.

09:12:59 MR. GARY GOULD, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.

09:13:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU HEAR US, SIR?

09:13:09 ALL RIGHT.

09:13:10 WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

09:13:11 >>THE CLERK: ALL RIGHT.

09:13:12 THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE IS CHRIS VELA.

09:13:16 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.

09:13:18 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

09:13:20 >> THANK YOU.

09:13:21 THIS IS CHRIS VELA, 33605.

09:13:23 I WANTED TO TALK ON ITEMS 2, 4, 31, 36, IF I HAVE TIME, 33.

09:13:29 FOR ITEM NUMBER 2, YOU'LL BE GETTING A PRESENTATION ABOUT

09:13:34 PROPERTY FROM 1970s TO TODAY.

09:13:37 JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS,

09:13:41 PRESIDENT LYNDON HAD THE WAR ON POVERTY WHICH WAS BORNE FROM

09:13:46 THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ACT OF 1964.

09:13:48 HOWEVER, IN THE 1970s, WE SAW THAT SOME CERTAIN

09:13:51 REPUBLICANS DURING THE TIME WERE CUTTING BACK ON A LOT OF

09:13:54 PROGRAMS THAT WERE HURTING CHILDREN AND SO FORTH.

09:13:57 WE'VE SEEN THAT ONGOING AND ONGOING, ESPECIALLY WITH FEDERAL

09:14:01 FUNDING TO POLICE AND PERSECUTE PEOPLE OF COLOR IN A WRONG

09:14:06 WAY.

09:14:06 WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM.

09:14:08 WE LOVE CARS.





09:14:10 WE LIKE TO BUILD HIGHWAYS ON TOP OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

09:14:13 AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS REPORT, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE

09:14:16 NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE DOWNTOWN INTERCHANGE HAVE REMAINED

09:14:20 VIRTUALLY STATIC.

09:14:21 I HAVE COME TO YOU GUYS VERY, VERY OFTEN TO TELL YOU THAT

09:14:25 HIGHWAYS ARE A HORRIBLE POLICY.

09:14:28 THEY PUT POOR PEOPLE IN THE WRONG SPOT AND THEY CAUSE CAR

09:14:31 DEPENDENCE.

09:14:32 PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS

09:14:34 PRESENTATION.

09:14:35 ON ITEM NUMBER 4, WE HAVE GARAGES COMPETING WITH SURFACE

09:14:41 LOTS, STREETS, AND WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE

09:14:47 THE ECOSYSTEMS IN THE CITY.

09:14:49 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR A CITY PARKING GARAGE TO COMPETE

09:14:52 WITH A PRIVATE LOT, JUST LIKE USING A STREET FOR PARKING TO

09:14:55 COMPETE WITH ALL THOSE THINGS.

09:14:57 SO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.

09:14:58 AND ALSO PUSH FOR PERMITS.

09:15:01 WE NEED ADMINISTRATIVE FEES BECAUSE ENFORCING COSTS A LOT OF

09:15:04 MONEY.

09:15:05 CONSOLIDATING ENFORCEMENT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

09:15:08 ITEM 31, I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED WITH THREE COUNCIL

09:15:12 MEMBERS ON HERE.

09:15:12 TWO SERVE ON THE MPO.

09:15:14 YOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW BETTER TO PUT BILLBOARD SIGNS IN





09:15:19 CRAs.

09:15:19 YOU KNOW IT CAUSES BLIGHT.

09:15:21 YOU KNOW IT HURTS OUR ECONOMY AND CRAs TO SUPPORT HIGHWAYS

09:15:25 AND PUT THESE HORRIFIC BRIGHT SIGNS IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

09:15:28 HOW DARE YOU GUYS, ALL OF YOU ALL ACTUALLY SUPPORTED THIS ON

09:15:31 THE FIRST READING.

09:15:32 IT'S RIDICULOUS.

09:15:32 YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS IN YOUR CAMPAIGNS, AND THEN

09:15:35 YOU FALL APART WHEN YOU COME TO VOTE ON THE TABLE.

09:15:38 THEN NUMBER 36, WE NEED TO HAVE EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL

09:15:42 JUSTICE.

09:15:43 WE CAN TALK ABOUT BAYSHORE AND SPEED ALL DAY LONG, BUT IF WE

09:15:46 DON'T HAVE EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IN

09:15:49 TRANSPORTATION, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO STILL BE DOING A LOT OF

09:15:51 HARM AGAIN TO MINORITIES.

09:15:52 BECAUSE WE'RE BREATHING ALL THIS STUFF.

09:15:55 WE NEED TO REDUCE LANES.

09:15:57 WE NEED TO REDUCE CARS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND QUICK

09:15:59 STATISTIC HERE IS THAT TAMPA IS ONLY GROWING BY 51%.

09:16:03 OUR HIGHWAYS RIGHT NOW ARE 108 CAPACITY, EVEN WITH ALL THIS

09:16:08 CAPACITY, THIS ADDITIONAL ONE, WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING 147%

09:16:12 DELAY.

09:16:12 THIS IS IN A TRANSPORTATION FOR AMERICA REPORT THAT WAS JUST

09:16:17 RELEASED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

09:16:18 WHAT THIS MEANS, YOU GUYS ARE SUPPORTING MORE CARS.





09:16:21 SUPPORTING TBX AND GETTING US IN TRAFFIC JAMS, HURTING OUR

09:16:25 LUNGS, HURTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, HURTING OUR QUALITY OF

09:16:28 LIFE.

09:16:28 THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING I SAID HERE.

09:16:30 THANK YOU.

09:16:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:16:33 ALL RIGHT.

09:16:33 NEXT SPEAKER.

09:16:34 >>THE CLERK: ALL RIGHT, CHAIR THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE

09:16:37 COMMENT -- PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS.

09:16:41 SAMANTHA SHEPHERD, JUSTIN COFFIE, ERRDAISHA FLOYD AND TETRA

09:16:44 REDDY.

09:16:45 IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE TAMPA CONVENTION

09:16:48 CENTER, WE HAVE TWO THERE.

09:16:50 THEN I'LL GET MR. GOULD ON THE LINE.

09:16:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

09:16:53 GO TO TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, YES.

09:16:55 >>THE CLERK: ALL RIGHT.

09:16:56 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:17:00 >> THIS IS ALEXANDER ENGELMANN -- BAYSHORE.

09:17:06 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL, MAYOR CASTOR, AND

09:17:08 MOBILITIES -- AND THE FANTASTIC STAFF FOR THE EFFORTS AND

09:17:10 OPPORTUNITIES CREATED TO TALK ABOUT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND

09:17:14 SAFETY ACROSS THE CITY.

09:17:15 I COME TO YOU IN REPRESENTATION OF THE OVER 9,240





09:17:18 INDIVIDUALS WHO SUPPORT CHANGE ON BAYSHORE WITH SIMPLE

09:17:21 GOALS.

09:17:24 WEEKEND VEHICULAR CLOSURE OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND LONG

09:17:29 TERM REDESIGN OF THE PARK.

09:17:31 FOR PEDESTRIANS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD

09:17:38 AND MANY MORE PEDESTRIANS ARE STAGE KILLED ACROSS THE CITY.

09:17:41 I RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO MAKE IT SAFER.

09:17:44 A YEAR-TO-DATE ON BAYSHORE TO TELL THE STORY OF ENHANCED

09:17:50 PATROL EFFORTS.

09:17:51 PROJECTED 140% INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT

09:17:56 DESPITE TRAGEDY, NUMEROUS CONTROL EFFORTS TO DATE AND EVEN

09:17:59 IN THE MIDST OF COVID-19, DRIVERS STILL SPEED ON BAYSHORE.

09:18:03 THIS RAD IS STILL DANGEROUS BY DESIGN.

09:18:06 UNTIL STRUCTURAL AND USAGE CHANGES ARE MADE, IT'S STILL

09:18:09 UNSAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS.

09:18:11 THIS DISCUSSION AS IN ALL ASPECTS OF OUR LIVES HAS BEEN

09:18:14 RE-SHAPED BY THE CORONAVIRUS.

09:18:15 DURING THOSE DARK, EARLY DAYS OF THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC,

09:18:18 IT WAS BAYSHORE LINEAR PARK THAT REMAINED A LIFELINE FOR

09:18:22 NATURE, WELLNESS, SANITY, COUNTLESS PEOPLE ACROSS OUR CITY.

09:18:26 BAYSHORE CAN BECOME A SAFE PLACE OF NATURAL REFUGE AND

09:18:28 PHYSICAL WELL-BEING IN THE POST-PANDEMIC AREA.

09:18:31 THIS COUNCIL AND MAYOR CASTOR HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO --

09:18:35 RESILIENCE MUST -- [AUDIO DISTORTED] -- 24/7/365.

09:18:43 BAYSHORE CAN CLOSE TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC EVERY WEEKEND WHILE





09:18:46 STILL REMAINING AN IMPORTANT WEEKDAY TRAFFIC ARTERY.

09:18:49 THE TIME TO DO THIS IS NOW.

09:18:51 CURRENT CDC GUIDELINES -- CURRENT CDC GUIDELINES -- STATES

09:18:54 THAT PARKS, TRAILS AND OPEN SPACES CAN PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES

09:18:57 FOR PHYSICAL OPPORTUNITY WHILE ALSO PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES

09:18:59 FOR A BREAK, HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

09:19:01 PEOPLE ARE ENCOURAGED TO USE PARKS, TRAILS AND OPEN SPACES

09:19:05 SAFELY WHILE FOLLOWING CURRENT GUIDELINES TO PREVENT THE

09:19:07 SPREAD OF COVID-19.

09:19:09 SCHOOLS ARE REOPEN.

09:19:10 BUSINESSES REOPENED.

09:19:12 IT'S TIME FOR BAYSHORE TO CLOSE.

09:19:14 BAYSHORE MUST CLOSE TO VEHICLES 7 A.M. SATURDAY TO 7 P.M.

09:19:17 SUNDAY, EVERY WEEKEND.

09:19:19 WE MUST DO THIS NOW IF WE WANT TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE

09:19:23 NEXT GENERATION OF BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS THAT VALUE SAFE,

09:19:26 RESILIENT, NATURAL PUBLIC SPACES.

09:19:28 I ASK CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR CASTOR TO CHARGE WITH THE TASK OF

09:19:33 ENACTING WEEKEND VEHICULAR CLOSURE OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD BY

09:19:35 THE END OF THIS YEAR AND STUDY OF LONG-TERM REDESIGN AND

09:19:38 ENSURE BAYSHORE REMAINS NATURAL AND PUBLIC RESOURCE IT WAS

09:19:41 MEANT TO BE.

09:19:42 THANKS TO YOU AND COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY'S FUTURE, ALEXANDER

09:19:46 ENGELMANN.

09:19:47 THANK YOU.





09:19:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:19:49 NEXT SPEAKER.

09:19:50 WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.

09:20:02 YOU MAY SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

09:20:04 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU HAVE THREE

09:20:06 MINUTES.

09:20:08 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:20:09 MY NAME IS JOSHUA HOLTON.

09:20:11 1910 EAST HAMILTON AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:20:14 WHY NOT TAMPA BAY?

09:20:17 BIG CITY AMENITIES, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WITH HOSPITALS,

09:20:22 AND NEVER-ENDING LIST OF ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS, YET MAINTAIN

09:20:26 A SMALL-TOWN FEEL BY HELPING BUSINESSES SUCCEED, WELCOMING

09:20:29 NEWCOMERS.

09:20:30 COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD

09:20:32 TAMPA AND LEAVE THEIR MARK.

09:20:35 THIS WAS WRITTEN BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

09:20:37 YOU MAY RECOGNIZE IT.

09:20:39 IT'S AN ENTITY THAT RECEIVES HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN

09:20:42 FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:20:44 WHAT IS THE CITY DOING TO HELP GOOD BUSINESS OWNERS, LIKE

09:20:47 THE OWNER OF THE CROWBAR AS RESTAURANTS HAVE BEEN PERMITTED

09:20:51 TO REOPEN, SERVE LIQUOR, ATTRACT SIZABLE CROWDS, MUSIC-ONLY

09:20:56 VENUES LIKE TOM'S HAS BEEN FORCED TO STAY CLOSED OR RISK

09:21:01 LOSING A LIQUOR LICENSE.





09:21:04 -- ENOUGH TO CLOSE DURING THIS PANDEMIC HAS PROLONGED THE

09:21:08 VIRUS, ANY POSSIBILITY FOR MANY VENUES TO OPEN FULL CAPACITY

09:21:12 AT ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

09:21:13 TOM'S CALENDAR HAS BEEN CLEARED UNTIL NEXT SUMMER.

09:21:15 THIS KILLS CREATIVITY AND CULTURE.

09:21:18 TOM HOSTED EVENTS THAT BENEFIT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY RADIO

09:21:22 STATION, EVEN HOSTED CHILDREN'S RECITALS AT THE VENUE AND

09:21:26 ENCOURAGE ARTISTS OF OUR FUTURE.

09:21:29 WHILE HE HAS FOLLOWED THE LAW, THE TAMPA POLICE AND CITY OF

09:21:32 TAMPA HAVE FAILED TO PREVENT HUGE EVENTS SUCH AS THE 400

09:21:34 PERSON CROWD AT THE CUBAN CROWD LAST WEEKEND.

09:21:37 THE LACK OF CONSEQUENCES FOR SUCH EVENTS FURTHER EMBOLDENS

09:21:40 MORE LAWLESSNESS AND PUTS LIVES AT RISK.

09:21:43 TOM HAS DISCUSSED IT AND HE ASKED ME TO SHARE THIS MESSAGE

09:21:46 WITH COUNCIL.

09:21:46 HE SAYS, WHEN THEY TELL ME TO NOT QUIT ON TAMPA, REMEMBER,

09:21:50 THEY NEVER EVEN FOUGHT FOR ME IN THE BEGINNING.

09:21:52 HE ALSO SAID, I DIDN'T QUIT MY AREA.

09:21:55 MY AREA QUIT ON ME.

09:21:56 NOW, ME PERSONALLY, I'M FROM TAMPA.

09:21:58 I WENT TO COLLEGE IN NEW ORLEANS.

09:22:00 I LOVE THE MUSIC AND CULTURE OF NEW ORLEANS.

09:22:02 YBOR CITY IS TAMPA AS THE FRENCH QUARTER IS TO NEW ORLEANS.

09:22:05 THE WORLD WOULD NOT BE THE SAME WITHOUT JAZZ OR NEW ORLEANS

09:22:09 AND TAMPA IS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT YBOR CITY.





09:22:12 TOM HAS WORKED FOR THE LAST DECADE TO ENRICH YBOR AND BY

09:22:17 EXTENSION THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:22:18 I DON'T THINK TAMPA OR CDC SHOULD DARE TALK ABOUT ATTRACTING

09:22:23 NEW BUSINESSES TO THE AREA WHEN WE CANNOT SUCCEED RETAINING

09:22:26 THE ONES WE'VE ALREADY HAD GOING -- WITH THE HOPE OF KEEPING

09:22:30 OUR CULTURE ALIVE.

09:22:31 I ASK COUNCIL TO WORK WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE STATE

09:22:33 OF FLORIDA TO ENFORCE LAWS ON RESTAURANTS THAT ARE VIOLATING

09:22:36 OUR REOPENING GUIDELINES.

09:22:38 PLEASE, ISSUE A MORATORIUM ON RENT, MORTGAGES, UTILITY

09:22:41 PAYMENTS, BARS AND LIVE MUSIC VENUES SO THEY CAN SAFELY

09:22:45 REOPEN.

09:22:45 CHICAGO STUDY ESTIMATED THAT A DOLLAR SPENT AT A SMALL VENUE

09:22:50 RESULTED IN $12 OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY FOR NEIGHBORING

09:22:53 RESTAURANTS, HOTELS AND RETAIL.

09:22:54 I URGE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE SAVE OUR STAGES.

09:22:57 THE SENATE RECONVENES ON SEPTEMBER 8.

09:22:59 THE HOUSE RETURNS TO SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 14.

09:23:02 PLEASE ENDORSE THE RESTART ACT AND THE SAVE OUR STAGES ACT

09:23:06 WHICH PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO VENUES THROUGH GRANTS,

09:23:09 EXTENDING PPP.

09:23:11 LET'S COME TOGETHER AS A CITY TO CALL ON CONGRESS TO SUPPORT

09:23:15 SMALL VENUES.

09:23:16 ALSO AS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, NOT JUST SUPPORT BIG ONES LIKE

09:23:19 THE STRAZ AND AMALIE ARENA, THE SAVE OUR STAGES ACT WOULD





09:23:23 GIVE $10 BILLION IN SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS TO VENUES, THE

09:23:26 RESTART ACT WOULD EXTEND THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM.

09:23:29 LET'S GET CREATIVE AS A CITY TO PROTECT CREATIVITY AND

09:23:33 CULTURE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:23:34 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:23:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:23:41 ALL RIGHT.

09:23:41 WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.

09:23:44 IF THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS, WE GO TO THE RECORDED PUBLIC

09:23:47 COMMENT.

09:23:48 MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY RECORDINGS DO WE HAVE?

09:23:51 >>THE CLERK: SIR, BEFORE WE GO TO THE RECORDED COMMENTS,

09:23:54 THERE ARE ACTUALLY 16, BUT I DO HAVE MR. GARY GOULD ON THE

09:23:59 LINE TO GIVE HIS THREE MINUTES.

09:24:01 >> IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD.

09:24:03 SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:24:05 PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME.

09:24:07 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:24:07 I'M GARY GOULD.

09:24:09 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES I WAS HAVING

09:24:13 EARLIER.

09:24:14 I'M HERE TODAY AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY.

09:24:18 I WANT TO BEGIN WITH A STORY.

09:24:20 THE BRILLIANTLY -- SAGE RABBI HILLEL IN THE FIRST CENTURY

09:24:26 BCE WAS KNOWN AS BEING A BIT LONG-WINDED AND HE WAS





09:24:29 CHALLENGED BY HIS STUDENTS ONCE TO SEE IF HE COULD POSSIBLY

09:24:34 STAND ON ONE FOOT AND SUMMARIZE THE FIVE BOOKS OF MOSES, THE

09:24:38 TORAH.

09:24:39 THE GREAT RABBI SURPRISED EVERYONE AND VERY EASILY STOOD ON

09:24:45 ONE FOOT AND SAID, WHAT IS HATEFUL TO YOU, DO NOT DO UNTO

09:24:49 OTHERS.

09:24:50 THE REST, MY STUDENTS, IS JUST COMMENTARY.

09:24:53 THE GOLDEN RULE.

09:24:54 I'M JEWISH, AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF THE

09:24:59 OLDEST HATE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, ANTI-SEMITISM.

09:25:03 IN RECENT YEARS, JEWS HAVE EXPERIENCED MORE HATE CRIMES THAN

09:25:06 ANY OTHER GROUPS.

09:25:08 I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO PRACTICE THE GOLDEN RULE

09:25:12 AND JOIN THE FIGHT WITH THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND

09:25:16 OTHER GROUPS AGAINST ALL FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION.

09:25:20 I COMMEND COUNCILMAN GUDES ON HIS RESOLUTION AND THOSE

09:25:24 UNSUNG HEROES WHO HELPED HIM.

09:25:27 I KNOW MANY OF YOU ON COUNCIL.

09:25:28 I KNOW YOUR COMMITMENT TO FAIRNESS, YOUR PASSION FOR THIS

09:25:32 COMMUNITY AND YOUR INTEGRITY.

09:25:34 I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS GOING TO PASS.

09:25:37 THE CHALLENGE WILL BE AFTER IT DOES, FORMING A COMMISSION

09:25:41 AND WORKING WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO MAKE

09:25:44 THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY BY THE BAY A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR THE

09:25:49 ENTIRE COUNTRY.





09:25:51 I WISH YOU GODSPEED.

09:25:52 PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP IN ANY WAY.

09:25:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:25:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:25:57 ALL RIGHT.

09:25:59 MADAM CLERK, YOU SAID WE HAD 16 RECORDED PUBLIC COMMENTS.

09:26:02 >>THE CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.

09:26:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: READY WHEN YOU ARE.

09:26:09 >>THE CLERK: I'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN.

09:26:11 >> HI.

09:26:11 MY NAME IS ALEXIA HANNAH.

09:26:13 I LIVE AT 3328 WEST NAPOLEON AVENUE IN TAMPA.

09:26:17 [DISTORTED AUDIO] -- THE OVERBUILDING IS BECOMING A REALLY

09:26:33 BIG ISSUE.

09:26:34 IT SEEMS THAT EVERY EMPTY LOT -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- WE ARE

09:26:45 ALREADY OVERPOPULATED IN RELATIVELY SMALL AREA.

09:26:50 I THINK THAT SOG -- AND THE BUILDING SHOULD GO ELSEWHERE.

09:27:00 WE'RE CONCERNED WITH FLOODING.

09:27:01 THE MORE THEY BUILD DOWN HERE, THEY BUILD UP THEIR NEW

09:27:06 BUILDINGS.

09:27:08 BUT THE OLD AND ESTABLISHED HOMES AND BUILDINGS HERE AREN'T

09:27:12 BUILT UP AS HIGH SO WE EXPERIENCE THE FLOODING.

09:27:16 ROADS ARE CROWDED AND CONGESTED.

09:27:23 THEY ARE JUST NOT TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL AS THEY SHOULD BE.

09:27:27 IMAGINE ADDING MUCH MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT.





09:27:33 RAILROAD TRACKS ARE JUST NOT CARED FOR.

09:27:37 CONCERNED WITH THAT AS WELL.

09:27:40 WE JUST WANTED TO -- STOP OVERBUILDING SOG.

09:27:50 THANK YOU.

09:27:50 BYE-BYE.

09:27:51 >> HELLO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THANK YOU FOR

09:27:56 FOCUSING ON THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU WILL HAVE LATER IN THE

09:27:59 DAY ABOUT SAFETY FOR WALKING AND BIKING IN OUR COMMUNITY,

09:28:04 THE SPEED STUDY.

09:28:05 THIS IS CHRISTINE ACOSTA OF WALK BIKE TAMPA AND PEDAL POWER

09:28:10 PROMOTERS.

09:28:12 I WISH TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA MOBILITY

09:28:16 DEPARTMENT FOR PUTTING THE INFORMATION TOGETHER AND FOR SOME

09:28:20 OF THE NEW AND EXCITING INFORMATION THAT IS CONTAINED

09:28:24 WITHIN.

09:28:25 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO A COUPLE OF

09:28:31 ADJUSTMENTS.

09:28:32 FIRSTLY, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD INSTALL COUNTERS ON

09:28:37 OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS AND HEAVY BIKE FACILITIES.

09:28:42 WE KNOW FROM OUR FRIENDS AT THE OFFICE OF GREENWAYS AND

09:28:45 TRAILS AND ALSO FROM PINELLAS COUNTY THAT WHERE COUNTERS ARE

09:28:50 INSTALLED, WE HAVE REAL DATA AND DURING THE PANDEMIC, TRAIL

09:28:54 USAGE IS UP TWO AND THREE HUNDRED PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD

09:29:00 IN SOME CASES.

09:29:01 SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA, AND IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO





09:29:05 HAVE THE DATA NOT ONLY FOR BAYSHORE BUT ALSO FOR RIVERWALK

09:29:10 AND OTHER PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE HEAVY, ACTIVE

09:29:15 TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATIONAL USE.

09:29:18 THE SECOND REQUEST THAT I RESPECTFULLY MAKE IS THAT THE CITY

09:29:25 CONSIDER ADOPTING A TOOL THAT ENABLES RESIDENTS TO QUICKLY

09:29:30 AND EASILY DOCUMENT AND RECORD THEIR SITUATIONS THAT WARRANT

09:29:37 ATTENTION THROUGH A PLATFORM CALLED SEE, CLICK, FIX.

09:29:42 THIS NOT ONLY ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO DOCUMENT SITUATIONS AND

09:29:47 PROBLEM SPOTS, WE HAVE A TOOL LIKE THAT ALREADY IN TAMPA,

09:29:50 THIS SYSTEM SEE, CLICK, FIX ENABLES MUNICIPALITIES TO

09:29:56 COLLECT DATA AND AGGREGATE WHERE TROUBLE SPOTS ARE REPORTED

09:30:01 FREQUENTLY SO THAT RESOURCES CAN BE ALLOCATED IN A WAY THAT

09:30:08 VALUE SOLVING THE MOST NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITH THE FEWEST

09:30:12 NUMBER OF DOLLARS.

09:30:14 AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR

09:30:16 TIME AND YOUR ENERGY ON THESE ISSUES.

09:30:20 >> HELLO.

09:30:21 MY NAME IS DAVID LARSON.

09:30:23 I AM A 21-YEAR RESIDENT OF TAMPA LIVING IN THE NEW TAMPA

09:30:27 AREA.

09:30:30 MY AREA OF CONCERN IS WITH THE DOUBLE STANDARD THAT I SEE

09:30:37 WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS HOW IT TREATS

09:30:43 PROTESTORS THAT ARE PROTESTING FOR EQUALITY AND TO POLICE

09:30:53 ABUSE OF PEOPLE OF COLOR VERSUS PROTESTORS OR OTHERS THAT

09:31:00 APPEAR TO BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE POLICE.





09:31:05 THERE CAN'T BE A DOUBLE STANDARD BECAUSE A DOUBLE STANDARD

09:31:09 LIKE THAT ONLY FURTHER ERODES TRUST IN THE TAMPA POLICE

09:31:15 DEPARTMENT.

09:31:18 I KNOW MANY TAMPA POLICE OFFICERS, AND I KNOW THEY WANT TO

09:31:28 BE TRUSTED BY THEIR COMMUNITY.

09:31:31 THEY WANT TO BE KNOWN AS GUARDIANS OF THE COMMUNITY.

09:31:34 HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE WHEN DOUBLE STANDARD IS

09:31:44 ON DISPLAY FOR ALL TO SEE.

09:31:47 FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN PEOPLE WITHOUT A PERMIT BLOCK THE STREET

09:31:53 IN FRONT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PAINT A MURAL,

09:32:01 ILLEGALLY, NOTHING IS DONE THAT IS INDICATIVE OF WHAT WE'RE

09:32:17 SEEING WEEK AFTER WEEK IN TAMPA.

09:32:19 THAT HAS TO STOP.

09:32:25 I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE INCREASE IN THE POLICE BUDGET.

09:32:31 WHEN I FEEL THE FUNDS COULD BE SPENT BETTER IN OTHER WAYS,

09:32:35 THERE'S A LOT OF TALK OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND WHAT THAT

09:32:39 REALLY MEANS IS DIVERTING SOME OF THE MONEY THAT CURRENTLY

09:32:42 GOES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO OTHER THINGS WHERE THE

09:32:46 MONEY COULD BE SPENT BETTER, OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE BETTER

09:32:52 EQUIPPED TO SERVICE THE CALLS, SOME OF THE CALLS ON THE CITY

09:33:00 PAYROLL.

09:33:01 ONLY 5% OF CALLS TO THE POLICE -- LESS THAN A THIRD OF

09:33:06 POLICE OFFICERS' TIME ON DUTY IS CRIME RELATED.

09:33:11 THESE CAN BE HANDLED, TWO-THIRDS OF THESE CASES CAN BE

09:33:16 HANDLED IN OTHER WAYS.





09:33:17 SO I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF INCREASING.

09:33:22 >> DEBRA ELLICOTT.

09:33:27 WE LIVE ON WYOMING AVENUE.

09:33:30 WE LIVED HERE FOR 34 YEARS.

09:33:32 AND THE BUILDING IN SOUTH TAMPA HAS GOT TO STOP.

09:33:36 THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOUSES THAT

09:33:40 YOU'RE TAKING UP ALL THE LAND.

09:33:43 THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

09:33:45 THE RENTS ARE GOING UP.

09:33:46 PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA ANYMORE BECAUSE

09:33:50 THE DEVELOPERS ARE JUST RAISING THE RIGHTS TO AN EXORBITANT

09:33:54 AMOUNT.

09:33:54 YOU'VE GOT TO LEAVE SOME GREENSPACE IN SOUTH TAMPA.

09:33:57 THANK YOU.

09:33:59 >> HI.

09:34:00 MY NAME IS EVAN LAWSON.

09:34:01 MY ADDRESS IS 4219 EAST ELLICOTT.

09:34:06 ON THE AGENDA I'M ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW IS THE RACIAL

09:34:09 RECONCILIATION THAT COUNCILMAN ORLANDO GUDES HAS SUBMITTED.

09:34:11 I BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD IN ACKNOWLEDGING

09:34:14 THE WRONGDOING FROM THE PAST IS A GREAT START.

09:34:18 YES, I SUPPORT COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:34:20 THANK YOU.

09:34:20 HAVE A GREAT DAY.

09:34:23 >> HELLO.





09:34:25 GERALDINE ROGERS.

09:34:26 4306 NORTH 39th STREET, TAMPA.

09:34:30 I AM FOLLOWING UP ON ROUNDABOUTS CONCERNS.

09:34:33 ROUNDABOUTS MIGHT REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC CRASH

09:34:36 FATALITIES, BUT THEY CREATE OTHER ROAD HAZARDS.

09:34:39 IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT MEASURES ARE IMPLEMENTED TO IMPROVE

09:34:43 COMMUTER SAFETY IN THE AREAS WHERE ROUNDABOUTS ARE LOCATED.

09:34:47 PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION: ONE,

09:34:52 PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT EXPLAINING

09:34:55 HOW TO APPROPRIATELY DRIVE THROUGH ROUNDABOUTS IS

09:34:58 RECOMMENDED.

09:34:59 TWO, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SYSTEMS ARE NEEDED AT ROUNDABOUTS

09:35:04 TO IMPROVE ROADWAY SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS AND MOTORISTS.

09:35:09 THIS METHOD WILL ALERT MOTORISTS WHEN A CROSSWALK IS BEING

09:35:13 OCCUPIED.

09:35:14 THREE, 40th STREET HAS THEE ROUNDABOUTS BETWEEN

09:35:17 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND BUSCH BOULEVARD.

09:35:21 HOWEVER, THERE IS ONLY ONE TRAFFIC LIGHT AND ONE PEDESTRIAN

09:35:24 CROSSWALK LIGHT FOR APPROXIMATELY A THREE-MILE STRETCH FOR A

09:35:28 ROAD HEAVILY TRAVELED.

09:35:31 PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS SHOULD BE -- SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED

09:35:35 TO JAYWALK OR ENDANGER THEMSELVES PLAYING RUSSIAN ROULETTE

09:35:40 WITH THEIR LIVES TO SAFELY CROSS THESE STREETS.

09:35:43 FOUR, THERE APPEARS TO BE IMPLICIT BIAS IN DETERMINING WHERE

09:35:47 ROUNDABOUTS ARE INSTALLED.





09:35:50 SINCE SAFETY IS REQUIRED AS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR

09:35:54 INSTALLING ROUNDABOUTS, THE ROUNDABOUTS SHOULD EXIST

09:35:57 THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH PRIORITY GIVEN TO THE MOST

09:36:00 DANGEROUS ROADS AND INTERSECTIONS.

09:36:01 THE UNFORTUNATE NUMBER OF ROUNDABOUTS ARE BEING INSTALLED IN

09:36:07 DISTRICT FIVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA, IN

09:36:10 COMPARISON TO OTHER COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY.

09:36:13 THERE SHOULD BE A MORATORIUM PUT ON INSTALLING ADDITIONAL

09:36:17 ROUNDABOUTS IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA UNTIL A THOROUGH

09:36:20 EVALUATION IS COMPLETED TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER PREDOMINANTLY

09:36:24 BLACK COMMUNITIES ARE RECEIVING DISPARATE TREATMENT.

09:36:27 IN CONCLUSION, THE CITY OF TAMPA ARCHIVES WILL SUBSTANTIATE

09:36:33 WHETHER THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES IN HOW THE TRANSPORTATION

09:36:37 DEPARTMENT CONDUCTS BUSINESS.

09:36:39 FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT RESIDENTS WERE GIVEN

09:36:43 MULTIPLE OPTIONS ON HOW THEY WANTED TO SOLVE TRANSPORTATION

09:36:47 PROBLEMS.

09:36:48 THERE ARE SEVERAL ROUNDABOUTS OR CIRCLES IN NEW TAMPA ON

09:36:53 PRIVATE ROADS, ONLY RESULTING IN MINIMAL PRIVATE RESIDENCE

09:36:58 TRAVEL IN RELATION TO THE HIGH-VOLUME TRAVEL THROUGH THE

09:37:00 ROUNDABOUTS PRESENT IN EAST TAMPA'S PUBLIC ROADS.

09:37:05 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.

09:37:08 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:37:09 THIS IS JANET SCHERBERGER.

09:37:12 ADDRESS IS 3821 WEST SAN LUIS STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA.





09:37:16 I AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARDWALK, BIKE TAMPA.

09:37:19 I AM CALLING TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGES

09:37:24 THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, MAKING IT A SAFE

09:37:32 STREET PROPOSAL.

09:37:32 AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I RECEIVED A LETTER AS A MEMBER OF

09:37:34 THE BOARD MEMBER OF WALK, BIKE, TAMPA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF

09:37:38 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION OFFICE OF GREENWAYS AND TRAILS, THE

09:37:40 STATE OFFICE OF GREENWAYS AND TRAILS.

09:37:42 AND THEY ALSO SUPPORT THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

09:37:45 THEY LET US KNOW THAT THE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD GREENWAY IS

09:37:48 UNIQUE WITH AN ESTIMATED PEDESTRIAN SHED OF 10,000 PEOPLE

09:37:53 AND IT CONNECTS SOME OF TAMPA'S MOST DENSE, VIBRANT,

09:37:56 HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE URBAN CORE.

09:37:58 IT'S AN IMPORTANT GREENWAY AND TRAIL FOR THE REGION, AND

09:38:01 NEEDS SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY IT IN THE

09:38:05 MANNER THAT IT WAS MEANT TO BE USED.

09:38:06 >> THIS IS LAUREEN JAFFE.

09:38:10 MY ADDRESS IS 3501 BAYFAIR PLACE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33629.

09:38:18 I AM CALLING IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM 33, SPECIFICALLY THE

09:38:23 RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING TAMPA'S HISTORY RELATED TO RACIALLY

09:38:28 MOTIVATED DISCRIMINATION.

09:38:30 I AM A MEMBER OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, AND I AM A LAWYER,

09:38:34 AND I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN MANY ISSUES RELATED TO JUSTICE

09:38:38 CAUSES.

09:38:40 IN MY ROLE THAT I HOLD IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES IN THE JEWISH





09:38:44 COMMUNITY, WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION IN

09:38:49 FAVOR OF IT.

09:38:50 THIS IS THE MONTH OF ELUL ON THE JEWISH CALENDAR, WHICH IS A

09:38:55 MONTH THAT IS A TIME OF INWARD REFLECTION.

09:38:58 IT IS A TIME OF -- REPENTANCE, FAITH AND HIS MERCY.

09:39:04 IT REALLY IS A TIME WHERE GOD WILL MAKE US WHOLE.

09:39:09 I THINK IT'S NOT A SMALL THING THAT THIS IS BEING BROUGHT

09:39:12 BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

09:39:14 IT'S TIME WE HAVE SUCH A TREMENDOUS HISTORY -- IN OUR STATE

09:39:20 AND OUR NATION, GREAT PAIN AND TRAUMA TO VARIOUS PEOPLE.

09:39:24 AND I THINK TO OUR BLACK COMMUNITIES AND AFRICAN AMERICANS.

09:39:29 THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF RECONCILIATION AND HEALING SO WE

09:39:32 CAN COME TO A PLACE OF RESTORATION.

09:39:35 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS.

09:39:40 NOT PART OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY

09:39:43 TOWARDS IT AND WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND

09:39:47 AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE ONLY WAY WE'LL BECOME A PROSPEROUS

09:39:52 COMMUNITY AS WELL AS PEACE IS TO TAKE THESE VERY BOLD AND

09:39:58 COURAGEOUS STEPS.

09:39:59 I APPLAUD YOU FOR WHAT I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

09:40:03 I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR BOLDNESS AND COURAGE IN THIS TIME,

09:40:06 ESPECIALLY DURING THIS SPECIAL MONTH OF ELUL.

09:40:09 WE'RE LOOKING FOR GOD'S MERCY AND GRACE AS WE ENTER INTO

09:40:13 ROSH HASHANAH.

09:40:16 THANK YOU AGAIN.





09:40:16 WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION AND AGENDA

09:40:20 ITEM NUMBER 33.

09:40:25 >> MY NAME IS MARGARET DIXON.

09:40:29 D-I-X-O-N.

09:40:31 3623 OHIO AVENUE, TAMPA, 33611.

09:40:36 WHICH IS SOUTH OF GANDY BOULEVARD.

09:40:40 I'M CALLING TO TELL YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE STOP THE BUILDING

09:40:45 AND OVERBUILDING IN OUR AREA.

09:40:48 IT HAS BECOME UNBEARABLE, COMPLETELY UNBEARABLE TO MOTIVATE,

09:40:55 TO MOVE, TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS AREA OF TOWN.

09:40:59 THERE'S JUST TOO, TOO MUCH OVER, OVER BUILDING.

09:41:06 IT HAS TO STOP SOMEWHERE.

09:41:08 AND I THINK IT COULD STOP WITH YOU.

09:41:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:41:11 GOOD-BYE.

09:41:14 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:41:15 THIS IS MARY JANE RICKLES.

09:41:17 MY ADDRESS IS 1042 SOUTH STERLING AVENUE IN TAMPA.

09:41:21 33629.

09:41:24 I'M COMMENTING ON BEHALF OF WALK, BIKE TAMPA.

09:41:28 AS PRESIDENT, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE CHANGES AND THE

09:41:33 PROPOSED PLANS TO PROVIDE AN OPEN STREET CONCEPT.

09:41:43 WE LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS, AND WE ARE IN

09:41:46 FULL SUPPORT OF IT.

09:41:47 AS FOR THE VISION ZERO FOR THE SPEEDING ON BAYSHORE, WE ARE





09:41:52 ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THE STUDIES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING AND

09:41:55 ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING MORE CHANGES TO DECREASE THE

09:42:00 SPEED OF THAT ROADWAY AND TO IMPROVE -- TO SUPPORT VISION

09:42:10 ZERO AS WELL AS FAR AS LESS ACCIDENTS AND LESS DEATHS.

09:42:15 WAY TO GO, GUYS.

09:42:17 LET'S SEE SOME MORE.

09:42:18 OKAY?

09:42:19 HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.

09:42:20 BYE-BYE.

09:42:21 >> HELLO.

09:42:21 MY NAME IS PATTY WORKMAN.

09:42:23 I LIVE AT 6351 SOUTH LANSDALE CIRCLE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33616.

09:42:31 I AM A RESIDENT OF THE SOUTH OF GANDY COMMUNITY.

09:42:35 I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN WITH THE OVERBUILDING

09:42:39 THAT IS HAPPENING IN MY AREA.

09:42:41 WE HAVE MULTIPLE APARTMENT COMPLEXES GOING UP.

09:42:45 WE DO NOT HAVE THE ROAD SURFACES TO SUPPORT THAT.

09:42:50 THE FLOODING IS ATROCIOUS DOWN HERE.

09:42:52 WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO GET THIS UNDER CONTROL AND STOP

09:42:55 SOME OF THE OVERBUILDING IN SOUTH TAMPA.

09:42:58 I REALLY AM CONCERNED THAT YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE

09:43:01 CITIZENS AND NOT DOING THE THINGS THAT WE NEED AND WANT FOR

09:43:05 OUR COMMUNITY.

09:43:07 THANK YOU.

09:43:10 >> THIS IS RABBI JASON ROSENBERG.





09:43:13 I LIVE AT 4725 WINDFLOWER CIRCLE IN TAMPA.

09:43:18 I'M THE RABBI OF CONGREGATION BETH AM HERE IN TAMPA, AS WELL

09:43:24 AS CHAIR OF THE HILLSBOROUGH CHAPTER -- INTERFAITH

09:43:26 MULTIRACIAL SOCIAL JUSTICE ORGANIZATION.

09:43:29 I'M CALLING TO OFFER MY ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT TO A RESOLUTION

09:43:34 ACKNOWLEDGING TAMPA'S HISTORY OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND

09:43:36 SUPPORTING THE CREATION OF --

09:43:40 CROSS ROADS OF AMERICAN HISTORY.

09:43:42 AS OUR COUNTRY COMES TO TERMS WITH THE TERRIBLE RACISM THAT

09:43:48 UNDERGIRDS OUR SOCIETY AND THE EFFECTS OF THE RACISM STILL

09:43:52 FELT DEEPLY TO THIS DAY.

09:43:54 UNTIL WE ARE WILLING TO LOOK -- AND HAVE DIFFICULT

09:43:58 CONVERSATIONS IN THE PRESENT, WE WILL NEVER HAVE ANY HOPE OF

09:44:01 HEALING THE WOUNDS OR RIGHTING THE WRONGS OF OUR PAST.

09:44:04 THOSE OF US LIKELY -- BENEFITED FROM A SYSTEM WHICH HAS LONG

09:44:08 EXPLOITED THE LIVES OF PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE TO BE WILLING TO

09:44:11 TAKE OWNERSHIP OF OUR PLACE IN THAT SYSTEM.

09:44:14 IN THE WORDS OF RABBI ABRAHAM JOSHUA HESCHL IN A FREE

09:44:18 SOCIETY, SOME ARE GUILTY, ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE.

09:44:20 I URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION WHICH TAKES ONE LONG

09:44:25 OVERDUE BUT DESPERATELY NEEDED STEP TOWARDS THE ASSUMPTION

09:44:28 OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

09:44:29 THANK YOU.

09:44:32 >> THIS IS ROBERT WORKMAN.

09:44:34 6351 SOUTH LANSDALE CIRCLE.





09:44:37 I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN SOUTH TAMPA SINCE 1967.

09:44:41 I HAVE LIVED THERE ALL MY LIFE.

09:44:43 RECENTLY, I HAVE BOUGHT A HOUSE, LANSDALE CIRCLE AND LIVED

09:44:50 HERE FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS.

09:44:54 I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF GROWTH THROUGHOUT SOUTH TAMPA AND MOST

09:44:59 OF THE GROWTH HAS BEEN LIMITED TO RECENTLY APARTMENTS.

09:45:03 AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TRAFFIC LANES LEAVING TAMPA, LEAVING

09:45:12 SOUTH TAMPA, AND THE CONGESTION IS JUST OVERWHELMING AT

09:45:15 TIMES.

09:45:16 I DO BELIEVE IT IS A BIT MUCH.

09:45:18 IT TAKES ME FOUR OR FIVE LIGHT CYCLES TO GET FROM MANHATTAN

09:45:22 TO THE GANDY BOULEVARD LIGHT AND ANY OTHER LIGHT FOR THAT

09:45:27 MATTER, NOT TO INCLUDE WHEN WE HAVE TRAFFIC CRASHES AND

09:45:29 EVERYTHING ELSE THAT JUST CAUSES IT MORE.

09:45:32 I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY CONCERNS ABOUT ALL THE OVERGROWTH

09:45:36 IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE APPROVAL AND IT APPEARS TO BE QUICK

09:45:40 APPROVAL OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT CONTINUE TO SPRING UP.

09:45:43 YES, THEY MAY ONLY BE 800 APARTMENTS, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER 600

09:45:48 CARS ON ROADS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN IMPROVED IN MANY YEARS.

09:45:53 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

09:45:55 I HOPE THIS REACHES THE RIGHT PERSON.

09:45:57 THANK YOU.

09:46:00 >> MY NAME IS ROBIN LOCKETT.

09:46:02 MY ADDRESS IS 16401 ENCLAVE VILLAGE DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:46:07 I'M CALLING TO MAKE A COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THE RACIAL





09:46:12 RESOLUTION THAT COUNCILMAN ORLANDO GUDES PRESENTED LAST

09:46:16 WEEK.

09:46:17 I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.

09:46:20 I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT BEGINNING, ACKNOWLEDGMENT,

09:46:26 APOLOGY, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF HEALING THAT NEEDS TO

09:46:31 HAPPEN IN TAMPA, AND THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

09:46:36 I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH MANY OF US WERE NOT BORN OR BACK IN

09:46:46 THOSE DAYS, BUT THE SYSTEMIC RACISM, THE RACISM, THE

09:46:51 MISTREATMENT, EVERYTHING STILL IS GOING ON TODAY.

09:46:56 AND I THINK IN REGARDS TO THIS RESOLUTION, THIS RACIAL

09:47:00 RESOLUTION -- I'M SORRY, RACIAL RECONCILIATION, IT PROVIDES

09:47:03 AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD IN A DIFFERENT WAY, TO

09:47:11 START BUILDING.

09:47:11 LIKE I SAID, IT'S A BEGINNING BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS

09:47:15 THAT ARE GOING ON, AND PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT FEELINGS ABOUT

09:47:19 THIS.

09:47:20 BUT I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT BEGINNING.

09:47:25 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR PRESENTING IT.

09:47:27 I HOPE THAT EVERY COUNCILMAN FINDS IT, THAT IT IS A

09:47:33 UNANIMOUS VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

09:47:35 AND LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO START THE HEALING, AND IT TAKES

09:47:41 TIME, ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE WRONGDOING IS A GREAT START.

09:47:45 THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:47:46 AGAIN, ROBIN MARKET.

09:47:48 THANK YOU.





09:47:50 >> HELLO.

09:47:50 MY NAME IS STANLEY GRAY.

09:47:52 I RESIDE AT 3020 WEST HARBORVIEW AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,

09:47:57 33611.

09:48:00 WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT OUR CITY IF WE CAN'T ADOPT A

09:48:05 RECONCILIATION RESOLUTION?

09:48:06 QUESTION MARK.

09:48:08 DOES IT SPEAK FOR OUR ABILITY OR DESIRE FOR TRUE EQUITY AND

09:48:14 EQUALITY?

09:48:15 QUESTION MARK.

09:48:20 >> GOOD MORNING.

09:48:21 THIS IS REVEREND WILLIE G. DIXON WITH THE COACH FOUNDATION.

09:48:24 MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 3411 NORTH 34th STREET.

09:48:30 SUITE D, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:48:32 I WANT TO LIST MY SUPPORT FOR THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN

09:48:39 GUDES TOMORROW.

09:48:41 I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF HIS RESOLUTION OFFERING REPARATION.

09:48:47 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF I COULD ADD SOMETHING TO THAT, TO

09:48:52 AMEND THAT TO SHOW THAT ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS,

09:48:56 THAT THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE TAKEN FROM BLACKS IN TAMPA

09:49:02 HEIGHTS AND OTHER AREAS, THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN SOME TYPE OF

09:49:05 CONSIDERATION, IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE EIGHT LOTS FROM THE

09:49:12 FOUNDATION THAT WE NEVER RECEIVED CONSIDERATION.

09:49:14 I WISH THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO IT IN ORDER TO BUILD SEVERAL

09:49:17 TAMPA HOMES WITHIN THE AREA AND TO ALSO ADD $30,000 DOWN





09:49:23 PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR EACH OF THE RECIPIENTS THAT WE GIVE

09:49:25 HOMES TO AND TO BUILD AN OFFICE IN THE AREA TO HELP PEOPLE

09:49:30 IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE VETERANS AND

09:49:33 EX-OFFENDERS.

09:49:34 THANK YOU AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY.

09:49:39 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC AGENDA

09:49:41 RECORDINGS.

09:49:42 WE DO HAVE MS. REDDY BACK ON THE LINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

09:49:47 GO BACK TO HER FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:49:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE COULD, AND THEN THAT WILL CONCLUDE

09:49:52 PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA.

09:49:54 GO AHEAD.

09:49:54 I'LL START THE TIME WE ARE THREE MINUTES.

09:49:56 IF SHE WOULD UNMUTE HERSELF AND STATE HER NAME AND GO AHEAD.

09:49:59 >>THE CLERK: MS. SHYSTRA REDDY, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

09:50:06 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:50:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. REDDY, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF,

09:50:17 YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.

09:50:19 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:50:20 ARE YOU THERE?

09:50:29 >>THE CLERK: SHE IS STILL SELF-MUTED.

09:50:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU COULD PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND

09:50:35 YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.

09:50:45 ALL RIGHT.

09:50:46 >>THE CLERK: ALL RIGHT.





09:50:46 WELL, THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE

09:50:50 AGENDA.

09:50:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:50:53 WE WILL NOW MOVE FORWARD TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND

09:50:59 ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.

09:51:02 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?

09:51:04 >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

09:51:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?

09:51:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.

09:51:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU.

09:51:11 I BELIEVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

09:51:13 NUMBER ONE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER

09:51:16 HAS A REQUEST.

09:51:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEMS NUMBER 8 AND 27 TO BE PULLED FOR

09:51:22 DISCUSSION, IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

09:51:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.

09:51:25 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:51:26 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.

09:51:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TWO MATTERS OF NEW BUSINESS.

09:51:35 DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM UP EARLY OR TAKE THEM UP AT THE

09:51:39 END OF THE AGENDA?

09:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S TAKE THEM UP AT THE END OF THE

09:51:42 AGENDA.

09:51:43 I HAVE THEM HERE.

09:51:45 ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT?





09:51:47 THEY SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY, IF WE WANT TO TAKE THEM UP NOW

09:51:51 ONCE WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM, WE'LL TAKE THEM

09:51:55 UP QUICKLY.

09:51:56 I DON'T THINK THEY ARE COMPLICATED.

09:51:58 ALL RIGHT.

09:51:58 OTHER THAN THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE --

09:52:02 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:52:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

09:52:05 MIRANDA.

09:52:06 I BELIEVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

09:52:09 ANY OPTION?

09:52:14 UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE HAVE APPROVED THIS AGENDA.

09:52:17 FOR CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS AT THE

09:52:20 BEGINNING, A MEMORANDUM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA REQUESTING

09:52:23 THAT ITEM NUMBER 1 BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

09:52:26 CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE AGENDA?

09:52:30 >> SO MOVED.

09:52:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

09:52:32 MIRANDA.

09:52:33 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:52:35 ANY OBJECTION?

09:52:36 HEARING NONE --

09:52:37 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR --

09:52:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:52:40 GO AHEAD, SIR.





09:52:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:52:43 I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THE CASTOR ADMINISTRATION FOR

09:52:46 WORKING WITH US ON THIS.

09:52:48 WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME ALTERNATIVE MEASURES TO HONOR THE LIFE

09:52:52 OF THE LATE MICHAEL PHILLIPS, THE SON OF WONDERFUL KAREN

09:52:56 CLAY, INCLUDING A MEMORIAL STREET NAMING FOR MR. PHILLIPS

09:53:01 THAT WOULDN'T BE EXACTLY AMENABLE TO MY REQUEST, BUT IT GETS

09:53:03 THE JOB DONE.

09:53:04 SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

09:53:05 BUT I WANTED TO AGAIN THANK THE CASTOR ADMINISTRATION FOR

09:53:08 THE WORK WITH US ON THIS.

09:53:10 MY HAT'S OFF TO THEM.

09:53:12 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:53:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:53:13 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANY OBJECTION?

09:53:16 I HEAR NONE.

09:53:17 THE MOTION WAS COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCIL

09:53:20 MEMBER GUDES BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE HAVE REMOVED ITEM

09:53:23 NUMBER 1.

09:53:24 NOW, BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2, WE HAD THOSE TWO WALK-ON

09:53:30 ITEMS.

09:53:30 I THINK THEY WILL BE QUICK.

09:53:32 ONE IS SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING.

09:53:33 ONE IS A MEMORANDUM FROM SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ REQUESTING TO

09:53:37 SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 8, 2020 AT 6 P.M.





09:53:41 REGARDING THE REVISED APPLICATION OF KR TAMPA TRASK 2109 LLC

09:53:46 FOR REZ 19-94.

09:53:48 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO SET THAT PUBLIC HEARING?

09:53:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:53:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:53:56 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:53:58 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID OR

09:54:00 ASKED ABOUT THIS?

09:54:01 I HEAR NONE.

09:54:03 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?

09:54:06 ALL RIGHT.

09:54:06 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THAT PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN SET.

09:54:11 THE SECOND NEW BUSINESS ITEM IS A MEMORANDUM FROM OUR CFO,

09:54:17 DENNIS ROGERO REQUESTING TO WALK ON A GRANT AGREEMENT AND

09:54:21 AUTHORIZE RESOLUTION THAT APPROPRIATES $41,920 FOR TPD

09:54:27 TRESPASSING PREVENTION INITIATIVE.

09:54:30 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR IS MR. ROGERO ON THE LINE AND

09:54:35 WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

09:54:42 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

09:54:43 THIS IS DENNIS, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

09:54:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUICK QUESTION.

09:54:48 DINGFELDER.

09:54:49 SINCE IT CAME AS A WALK-ON, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ

09:54:54 THROUGH THIS 30-PAGE DOCUMENT CAREFULLY, BUT SINCE IT'S FROM

09:54:58 THE FEDERAL RAILWAY ADMINISTRATION, I ASSUME THIS IS FOR US





09:55:08 TO PATROL RAILWAY PROPERTY.

09:55:11 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR, PARTICULARLY TRESPASSING UPON

09:55:15 RAILWAY PROPERTY.

09:55:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

09:55:20 THANKS.

09:55:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:55:22 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?

09:55:26 WE'LL NEED A ROLL-CALL VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR

09:55:29 AMOUNT.

09:55:29 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM?

09:55:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:55:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:55:37 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:55:38 ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

09:55:39 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

09:55:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

09:55:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

09:55:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

09:55:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

09:55:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

09:55:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

09:55:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

09:55:57 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

09:56:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:56:02 THAT CONCLUDES THE WALK-ON ITEMS.





09:56:05 WE NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2 WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION

09:56:08 STAFF.

09:56:08 IT IS A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION.

09:56:11 I KNOW A PowerPoint WAS SENT AND APPROVED.

09:56:15 IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ON THE LINE, YOU HAVE TEN

09:56:18 MINUTES FOR THIS ITEM.

09:56:19 I WILL TIME IT, AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN,

09:56:23 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:56:26 >> TERRY EAGAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

09:56:29 GOOD MORNING.

09:56:30 I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE CONCENTRATIONS IN

09:56:35 POVERTY REPORT.

09:56:36 WE PREPARED ONE A FEW YEARS AGO.

09:56:38 WE HAVE RECEIVED NEW CENSUS DATA SO WE UPDATED IT TO THE

09:56:40 YEAR 2018.

09:56:42 THE MAIN GOAL OF THIS REPORT AND PROJECT WAS TO DETERMINE IN

09:56:48 WHAT EXTENT, CIRCUMSTANCES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WITH

09:56:51 RESPECT TO THE CONCENTRATIONS OF POVERTY, SHIFTS IN POVERTY

09:56:55 AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN ARE REFLECTED AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND

09:56:59 IN THE COUNTY LEVEL.

09:57:00 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

09:57:01 SO TO START OFF, JUST A QUICK REVIEW OF MEASURING POVERTY,

09:57:10 THERE ARE THREE INTERRELATED WAYS WE MEASURE POVERTY.

09:57:13 THERE ARE POVERTY THRESHOLDS.

09:57:15 THERE ARE POVERTY GUIDELINES.





09:57:17 AND THEN THERE IS THE RATIO OF INCOME TO POVERTY.

09:57:20 POVERTY THRESHOLDS ARE WHAT WAS USED IN THIS REPORT.

09:57:25 IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED KIND OF MATRIX, 48 CELLS, THAT

09:57:30 IDENTIFY POVERTY, BOTH ON HOUSEHOLD COMPOSITION AND INCOME.

09:57:35 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

09:57:39 IT'S BEFORE TAX MONEY INCOME.

09:57:41 IT'S ADJUSTED ANNUALLY.

09:57:43 IT'S A FORMULA THAT THIS RECEIVES SOME CRITICISM BECAUSE THE

09:57:45 FORMULA ITSELF HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE 1960s.

09:57:49 THERE ARE PROPONENTS THAT FEEL A NEWER METHODOLOGY NEEDS TO

09:57:53 BE CREATED, ONE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE WAY PEOPLE OF TODAY.

09:57:59 LASTLY, THE SAME VALUES ARE ASSIGNED EVERYWHERE.

09:58:01 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

09:58:02 SO THIS IS WHAT POVERTY THRESHOLDS LOOK LIKE.

09:58:07 LIKE I SAID, IT IS A 48-CELL MATRIX.

09:58:09 HOUSEHOLD COMPOSITION BY THE NUMBER OF DEPENDENTS RUNS LEFT

09:58:13 TO RIGHT.

09:58:13 AND THEN THE SIZE OF THE FAMILY UNIT RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH.

09:58:18 DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN TERMS OF HAVING A TWO HOUSE

09:58:23 HOLDER AND TWO DEPENDENTS, YOUR POVERTY INCOME WOULD BE

09:58:28 ROUGHLY AROUND 26,000 -- $25,926.

09:58:32 ONE OF THE CRITICISMS AGAINST POVERTY THRESHOLDS OR THIS

09:58:37 PARTICULAR FORMULA IS THAT THIS THRESHOLD IS APPLIED

09:58:40 UNIFORMLY ACROSS THE U.S.

09:58:41 SO NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTRY, WHETHER IT'S





09:58:44 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, OR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,

09:58:46 NEW HAMPSHIRE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING THE SAME MATRIX FOR

09:58:50 INCOME.

09:58:51 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

09:58:52 THESE ARE WHAT THE POVERTY GUIDELINES LOOK LIKE.

09:58:57 THEY ARE STRICTLY USED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES TO

09:59:00 ADMINISTER POLICY, FEDERAL FUNDS, QUALIFYING FOR PROGRAMS.

09:59:07 IT'S A SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF THE POVERTY THRESHOLDS.

09:59:10 OFTENTIMES PEOPLE CONFLATE THE TWO, BUT POVERTY THRESHOLDS

09:59:15 AND GUIDELINES ARE NOT EXACTLY SYNONYMOUS.

09:59:21 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

09:59:23 AND THEN THE LAST WAY OF PEOPLE MEASURING POVERTY,

09:59:25 REPRESENTING POVERTY, THIS HAS BECOME VERY COMMON OF LATE.

09:59:29 THE RATIO OF INCOME TO POVERTY, WHERE NEAR POVERTY IS

09:59:35 MEASURED ON A RATIO BETWEEN 100 AND 125 PERCENT OF THE

09:59:39 POVERTY THRESHOLD AND IN POVERTY AND DEEP POVERTY HAVE THEIR

09:59:44 OWN RATIOS.

09:59:45 THIS BECAME MUCH MORE COMMON OF LATE.

09:59:48 THERE WAS A BOOK PUBLISHED CALLED "GETTING BY ON $2 A DAY,"

09:59:52 WHERE THE AUTHOR PROPOSED A NEW QUANTIFICATION AS THEY WERE

09:59:55 ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME ONE MILLION HOUSEHOLDS OR ONE MILLION

10:00:00 PEOPLE IN THE U.S. THAT GET BY ON ROUGHLY $2 A DAY.

10:00:04 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:00:07 SO TO MEASURE POVERTY AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL, WE USE

10:00:10 CENSUS TRACTS AS SURROGATES FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.





10:00:12 CENSUS TRACTS ARE THE PREFERRED GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY

10:00:17 MEASUREMENT TOOL FROM THE UNITED STATES CENSUS.

10:00:19 IF YOU THINK OF THE ZIP CODE, IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO THAT.

10:00:22 IT IS THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY WITH AN ASSIGNED NUMERIC CODE,

10:00:27 HOWEVER, THEY REMAIN THE SAME FOR TEN YEARS AT A TIME.

10:00:31 TO DO THIS RESEARCH, WE USE A SET OF DATA AND ANALYSIS OUT

10:00:34 OF BROWN UNIVERSITY WHERE THEY TOOK 2010 CENSUS TRACTS AND

10:00:41 USED THEM -- REASSIGNED DATA TO 1970 SO WE COULD DO A

10:00:45 COMPARISON OF LIKE GEOGRAPHIES OVER 50 YEARS.

10:00:52 WE SELECTED TRACTS WHERE 40% OR MORE OF THE RESIDENTS ARE

10:00:56 POOR.

10:00:56 NEXT SLIDE.

10:00:57 WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IN THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY REPORT,

10:01:04 ARE THERE DISPERSIONS FROM THE CITY CENTERS AND OUR

10:01:07 DOWNTOWN?

10:01:07 IS THERE ANY ENCROACHMENT INTO THE SUBURBS?

10:01:10 AND DID THIS TREND BEGIN BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION?

10:01:14 WHICH IS WHAT SOME OF THE LITERATURE POSITED.

10:01:18 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:01:18 JUST TO GIVE YOU A HISTORICAL OVERVIEW, THIS IS WHAT THE

10:01:22 HISTORICAL POVERTY RATES LOOK LIKE OVER TIME.

10:01:25 SO IN 1960, YOU CAN SEE IT WAS QUITE HIGH.

10:01:28 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS JUST BEGINNING TO GET A HANDLE ON

10:01:32 QUANTIFYING POVERTY BEFORE THE MID '60s, THERE WAS NO

10:01:36 UNIFORM STANDARD OF MEASURING POVERTY IN THE U.S.





10:01:39 PRESIDENT JOHNSON INITIATED A NUMBER OF WAR ON POVERTY

10:01:45 PROGRAMS.

10:01:45 YOU CAN SEE HOW THE POVERTY RATES DECLINED FROM 1960 TO

10:01:48 1970, AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHEN THE DECENNIAL CENSUS IS

10:01:55 TAKEN, IF IT CORRESPONDS WITH A RECESSION OR SIGNIFICANT

10:02:00 ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE HIGHER POVERTY RATES.

10:02:05 IN THE CASE OF THE YEAR 2000, WE HAD A BOOMING ECONOMY, SO

10:02:09 THE POVERTY RATES WERE MUCH LOWER.

10:02:11 RIGHT NOW, THE MOST CURRENT DATA WE HAVE SHOWED HILLSBOROUGH

10:02:15 COUNTY RIGHT AROUND 16% POVERTY RATE.

10:02:18 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

10:02:20 SO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE 1970 POVERTY CONCENTRATION.

10:02:26 IT'S KIND OF A LARGE MAP BECAUSE WE HAD TO INCLUDE PLANT

10:02:29 CITY.

10:02:29 THIS WAS THE ONLY TIME PLANT CITY HAD A TRACT THAT EXCEEDED

10:02:34 40% OF THE POVERTY RATE, BUT YOU CAN LOOK AND DOWNTOWN TAMPA

10:02:39 IS A FAIRLY CONSISTENT AREA AS HIGH TRACTS OF CONCENTRATION,

10:02:48 AND UP TO A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE DOWNTOWN.

10:02:50 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:02:52 IN 1980, PLANT CITY DROPS OUT, AND DOWNTOWN BECOMES MOSTLY

10:03:01 CONCENTRATED WITH THE HIGH CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY TRACTS.

10:03:05 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:03:07 1990, IT SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S STILL FAIRLY

10:03:13 CONSISTENT.

10:03:15 AND THEN AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, WHEN WE GO TO THE YEAR





10:03:18 2000 -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:03:21 YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE MANY FEWER TRACTS THAT HAVE A HIGH

10:03:27 CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY.

10:03:30 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:03:31 WHEN WE GET INTO THE YEARS 2010 TO 2014, WE HAD TO USE AN

10:03:41 ALTERNATE DATA SET BECAUSE THE CENSUS DID NOT ASK FOR INCOME

10:03:44 DATA IN THE 2010 CENSUS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DISPERSION HAS

10:03:49 BEGUN, WHICH WAS BEING DISCUSSED IN A LOT OF THE RESEARCH

10:03:52 LITERATURE.

10:03:52 IT'S HEADING EAST AND THEN SOUTH INTO THE PALM RIVER AREA,

10:03:56 AND IT HAS MOVED NORTH INTO THE AREA AROUND THE UNIVERSITY

10:03:59 OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

10:04:01 THIS WAS TAKEN RIGHT AROUND THE END OF THE GREAT RECESSION,

10:04:05 SO WE HAVE A LOT MORE TRACTS THAT ARE REGISTERING AS HIGH

10:04:09 POVERTY.

10:04:10 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:04:11 NOW, 2014 TO 2018, WE CAN SEE IT HAS DIMINISHED SOMEWHAT.

10:04:21 WE STILL HAVE TRACTS APPEARING UP TOWARDS THE UNIVERSITY OF

10:04:23 SOUTH FLORIDA, SOUTH INTO PALM RIVER AND CONTINUING INTO THE

10:04:29 DOWNTOWN AREA.

10:04:30 I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL MY SLIDES.

10:04:33 NEXT SLIDE.

10:04:35 SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

10:04:39 I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:04:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?





10:04:45 DINGFELDER, GUDES, CARLSON, MIRANDA, ANYONE?

10:04:47 VIERA?

10:04:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER, QUICK QUESTION.

10:04:55 YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THIS PREVIOUSLY, TERRY.

10:05:01 THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

10:05:02 DOES THE CENSUS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW HAVE A FINANCIAL

10:05:10 DISCLOSURE, A REQUEST, NUMBER ONE?

10:05:13 NUMBER TWO, IS WHEN WOULD THE NEXT UPDATE BE BASED UPON THAT

10:05:19 CENSUS?

10:05:22 >>TERRY EAGAN: WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, THE CENSUS STOPPED

10:05:24 ASKING ANY INCOME DATA QUESTIONS AFTER THE 2000 CENSUS.

10:05:29 SO THEY ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SURVEY TOOL, THE AMERICAN

10:05:33 COMMUNITY SURVEY, WHICH HAS AN ANNUAL PUBLICATION, WHICH

10:05:37 WILL HAVE SOME INCOME DATA IN IT, BUT THAT WON'T BE

10:05:41 AVAILABLE UNTIL DECEMBER.

10:05:43 BUT WE'LL PROBABLY SEE A REFLECTION OF SOME OF WHAT HAS

10:05:48 OCCURRED THIS PAST YEAR REPORTED IN THAT UPDATE.

10:05:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

10:05:57 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:05:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:06:00 I WANTED TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THIS

10:06:03 PRESENTATION.

10:06:04 THANK YOU TO TERRY AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DOING IT.

10:06:06 YOU ALL WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO LET ME PRESENT THE TAMPA

10:06:09 SCORECARD A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHICH PEOPLE CAN SEE AT TAMPA





10:06:13 SCORECARD.COM.

10:06:15 IT SHOWS THAT POVERTY IS ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES FOR THE CITY

10:06:17 OF TAMPA.

10:06:18 WHAT TERRY HAS JUST SHOWN, THERE HAS BEEN A MIGRATION

10:06:21 OUTSIDE THE CITY WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY GOOD BECAUSE IT

10:06:24 CREATES MORE TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS AND IT CONTINUES THE

10:06:29 DENSE AREAS OF POVERTY.

10:06:32 FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE.

10:06:35 IT IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.

10:06:37 WE'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH MOEZ LIMAYEM,

10:06:39 THE DEAN OF THE MUMA COLLEGE OF BUSINESS FROM USF.

10:06:45 AND HE AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO WATCH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

10:06:49 CLEARLY SAY THAT THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST PEOPLE AND THE BEST

10:06:51 COMPANIES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LOCATE HERE AND KEEP HERE,

10:06:54 THEY SEE OUR REAL NUMBERS, NOT THE NUMBERS THAT WE WANT TO

10:06:57 PRESENT.

10:06:57 THE OLD-STYLE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS TO RECRUIT

10:07:00 NEW YORK COMPANIES THAT WANTED TO PAY LOW TAXES AND LOW

10:07:03 WAGES AND THEN SUBSIDIZE THEM.

10:07:05 THE NEW STYLE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ATTRACTING AND

10:07:07 RETAINING THE BEST PEOPLE AND ENTREPRENEURS WHO WANT TO

10:07:09 BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES HERE.

10:07:10 AND POVERTY IS ONE OF OUR TOP ISSUES.

10:07:14 WE'RE ONE OF THE WORST IN THE STATE IN POVERTY.

10:07:16 WHAT I WAS HOPING WITH THIS IS THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO DIG





10:07:19 DOWN DEEP NEAR THIS ISSUE.

10:07:22 SO THANK YOU TO TERRY FOR DOING THIS.

10:07:24 WE'LL GET HIM TO COME BACK AND CONTINUE TO UPDATE US.

10:07:27 THE OTHER THING I WANT TO DO IS THANK MY COLLEAGUES AGAIN

10:07:30 FOR HELPING US MOVE FORWARD THE ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

10:07:33 THAT COMMITTEE HAD ITS SECOND MEETING YESTERDAY.

10:07:36 THE MAYOR AND CAROLE POST NOW ARE LEADING THAT, WORKING WITH

10:07:40 THE MUMA COLLEGE OF BUSINESS AT USF AND TAMPA BAY

10:07:43 PARTNERSHIP AND OTHERS.

10:07:44 AND THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH REALLY DEEP DETAILED DATA,

10:07:47 SIMILAR TO THIS.

10:07:49 AND THEY HAVE FOUR MORE MEETINGS.

10:07:51 BY THE END OF THAT, WE HOPE THAT THEY WILL COME UP WITH SOME

10:07:54 SOLUTIONS THAT THEY CAN RECOMMEND BACK TO US IN A COUPLE OF

10:07:57 MONTHS ON HOW TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

10:07:58 AGAIN, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GROW OUR ECONOMY AND WE NEED OUR

10:08:01 NUMBERS TO BE BETTER IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.

10:08:04 THANK YOU.

10:08:06 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

10:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:08:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:08:11 FIRST, I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR BRINGING

10:08:16 FORWARD THIS.

10:08:17 I THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR THAT.

10:08:19 I WANTED TO BUILD ON THOSE WELL-THOUGHT-OUT REMARKS AND JUST





10:08:23 TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR CITY AND OUR CITY

10:08:26 COUNCIL IN WORKING WITH THE MAYOR ARE DOING ON MATTERS OF

10:08:28 HUMAN RIGHTS, MATTERS OF POVERTY, MATTERS OF ECONOMIC

10:08:32 DEVELOPMENT AND AREAS WHERE NEED A RISING TIDE TO LIFT ALL

10:08:36 BOATS.

10:08:37 YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUSHING

10:08:40 IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS WITH OUR CIVILIAN REVIEW

10:08:43 BOARD, POLICE BODY CAMERAS, MAJOR CHANGES IN POLICY WITH

10:08:48 REGARD TO THE COMMUNITY.

10:08:50 A BIG ISSUE.

10:08:50 IN THIS BUDGET, WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT TONIGHT, WE HAVE

10:08:53 WHAT I BELIEVE IS AN $18 MILLION INVESTMENT IN RECREATIONAL

10:08:57 ACTIVITIES IN EAST TAMPA.

10:08:59 SOMETHING THAT'S VERY HISTORIC.

10:09:01 WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT AN INNOVATION DISTRICT AND -- FOR

10:09:07 THE USF, FOWLER, BUSCH AREA.

10:09:11 SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REALLY DO THAT TAKES SUCH A TARGETED

10:09:13 HIT ON THE ISSUE OF POVERTY AND WANT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

10:09:17 IN OCTOBER, WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A LOOK AT SOMETHING

10:09:21 THAT IS SUCH A HUGE ISSUE ON UPWARD MOBILITY.

10:09:24 STATE CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIPS, TRYING TO SEE TO IT THAT

10:09:28 OUR CONTRACTING PROCESS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR OUR

10:09:31 CITY OF TAMPA LARGER CONTRACTS ENCOURAGE AND PUSH FOR STATE

10:09:36 CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIPS SO THAT SO MANY OF OUR YOUNG

10:09:39 PEOPLE CAN HAVE A PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS AND ECONOMIC





10:09:42 SECURITY.

10:09:43 WE'RE LOOKING AT THROUGH DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE

10:09:45 PRIVATE SECTOR, OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, IDEAS ON

10:09:48 AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT AND ROBUST, AND

10:09:53 WE'RE LOOKING AT A BUDGET THAT SPENDS A GREAT DEAL IN A TIME

10:09:57 WHEN PEOPLE ARE CUTTING BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE OVER 10%

10:10:01 UNEMPLOYMENT.

10:10:02 WE'RE INVESTING IN PEOPLE.

10:10:04 SOMETHING THAT I CERTAINLY THINK MAKES SENSE.

10:10:06 GOD WILLING, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS IN TALLAHASSEE, WE

10:10:10 CAN LOOK AT ROBUST MASS TRANSIT AND OTHER TRANSPORTATION

10:10:15 INVESTMENTS IN TERMS OF HELPING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AT,

10:10:18 $130 MILLION I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS TO OUR HART BUS SYSTEM

10:10:22 TO OFFER TRANSPORTATION.

10:10:24 IF THAT GOES DOWN, WE'LL BE BACK IN 2022 TO GET IT DONE

10:10:29 RIGHT.

10:10:30 MY POINT IS, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HISTORIC

10:10:33 IN THIS CITY COUNCIL, WORKING WITH THE CASTOR ADMINISTRATION

10:10:36 IN VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.

10:10:38 THIS IS A WHOLE LIST I'VE JUST RUN THROUGH OFF THE TOP OF MY

10:10:41 HEAD AND THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WORKING WITH THE

10:10:44 ADMINISTRATION AND IN A TIME WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A

10:10:46 PANDEMIC, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE A THIRD, I BELIEVE IT IS, OF

10:10:49 OUR CITY WORKERS HAVE BEEN OUT, AND I THINK IT'S MORE THAN A

10:10:53 THIRD, BUT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER, DUE TO COVID, WE'RE PUSHING





10:10:56 THIS FORWARD, INCLUDING PUSHING IT FORWARD FOR PEOPLE WHO

10:10:59 HISTORICALLY HAVEN'T HAD A VOICE IN THE PROCESS.

10:11:02 I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RECORD THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLETE AND

10:11:05 BUILD ON AND I THINK IS WORTH MENTIONING.

10:11:07 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

10:11:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:11:12 ANYBODY ELSE?

10:11:12 ALL RIGHT.

10:11:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:11:16 WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

10:11:19 THANK YOU.

10:11:19 WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 3 WITH

10:11:23 MR. JOSEPH JOHNSON.

10:11:27 DO WE HAVE MR. JOHNSON ON THE LINE?

10:11:33 >>JOSEPH JOHNSON: I'M HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:11:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

10:11:36 HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO PRESENT OR SPEAK?

10:11:41 >>JOSEPH JOHNSON: I'LL DO MY BEST NOT TO TAKE UP A LOT OF

10:11:45 TIME.

10:11:46 MAYBE 15 -- I WOULD SAY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO 20 MINUTES,

10:11:52 MAYBE LESS.

10:11:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WOULD PREFER 10 MINUTES, BUT TRY TO

10:11:59 KEEP IT UNDER 15.

10:12:05 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO.

10:12:07 >>JOSEPH JOHNSON: WILL DO, MR. CHAIRMAN.





10:12:09 WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

10:12:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:12:12 GO.

10:12:14 >>JOSEPH JOHNSON: OKAY.

10:12:15 SO BEFORE I BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND,

10:12:19 AGAIN, THANK MY COLLEAGUES THAT SIT ON THE BUDGET AND

10:12:23 FINANCE COMMITTEE AND JUST RECOGNIZE THEM.

10:12:27 THAT WOULD BE VICE-CHAIRMAN CRAIG NEWMAN, WHO WAS APPOINTED

10:12:30 BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DISTRICT 4.

10:12:32 JEFF NIETUPSKI, WHO WAS APPOINTED BY JOE CITRO, DISTRICT 1.

10:12:37 STEPHEN LYTLE, APPOINTED BY CHARLIE MIRANDA, DISTRICT 2.

10:12:41 VIBHA SHEVADE, APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER DISTRICT

10:12:47 3.

10:12:47 MISSY MARTIN, APPOINTED BY YOURSELF, MR. CHAIRMAN, DISTRICT

10:12:50 6.

10:12:51 AND JOE FARRELL, APPOINTED BY LUIS VIERA, DISTRICT 7.

10:12:57 AS YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE, CITY OF TAMPA, FISCAL YEAR 2021

10:13:05 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.

10:13:07 THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S QUESTION BACK ON

10:13:11 AUGUST 20 DURING OUR REGULAR PRESENTATION AND RECOMMENDATION

10:13:14 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021.

10:13:18 IF I MAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND THEN

10:13:21 GET INTO THE SLIDES.

10:13:22 AS I STATED, COUNCILMAN CARLSON ASKED THE QUESTION DURING

10:13:26 THE LAST SESSION AS IT PERTAINS TO SAVINGS IN THE BUDGET.





10:13:30 I FELT AS CHAIRMAN OF THE CITIZEN BUDGET AND FINANCE

10:13:32 COMMITTEE AND APPOINTEE OF DISTRICT FIVE BY COUNCILMAN

10:13:35 GUDES, IT WAS MY OBLIGATION TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE

10:13:38 OVERALL BUDGET TO FIND SAVINGS AND TO PRESENT IN FY '21

10:13:43 BUDGET.

10:13:43 WITH THE HELP OF MY TEAM, WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK THREE

10:13:46 YEARS AND COMPARE BUDGET NUMBERS TO FISCAL YEAR '21.

10:13:50 DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS, WE DID A SEMI DIVE THROUGH FY '21

10:13:55 BUDGET AND IDENTIFIED TWO AREAS IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET

10:13:58 BREAKDOWN THAT STOOD OUT IMMEDIATELY.

10:14:01 THOSE AREAS ARE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AND OTHER SERVICES AND

10:14:05 CHARGES, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN THE PowerPoint

10:14:09 PRESENTATION.

10:14:10 IN ANALYZING EACH DEPARTMENT NUMBERS AS IT PERTAINS TO

10:14:13 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, WE NOTICED AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF

10:14:17 FUNDS BEING USED EACH YEAR.

10:14:18 YEAR OVER YEAR SINCE FISCAL YEAR 18, THE BUDGET AMOUNT

10:14:22 EITHER INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY OR STAYED THE SAME AS THE

10:14:24 PRIOR YEAR.

10:14:25 WE BELIEVE THERE IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE A LOT OF FUNDS

10:14:28 WITH CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR FY '21.

10:14:31 DURING OUR -- OF THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, WE MET

10:14:35 WITH SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS.

10:14:36 AND ONLY TWO OR THREE EXPRESSED THE USE OF CONTRACTUAL

10:14:39 SERVICES OR THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF.





10:14:42 THERE'S NO REASON FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT TO HAVE A NEED FOR

10:14:47 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.

10:14:48 IN THE BUDGET BREAKDOWN, IT WILL SHOW WHAT IS NEEDED FOR

10:14:52 EACH DEPARTMENT AND WHAT WILL BE SPENT FOR EACH DEPARTMENT,

10:14:56 FROM SUPPLIES TO THE REVENUE EXPENSE REPORT SHOWING

10:14:59 ADDITIONAL COSTS.

10:15:00 HOWEVER, THERE ARE FUNDS ALLOCATED, OTHER SERVICES AND

10:15:04 CHARGES AND YEAR OVER YEAR, THERE'S NO BREAKDOWN FOR WHAT

10:15:07 THESE FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR.

10:15:09 NOW WE'LL TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BREAKDOWN OF EACH

10:15:13 DEPARTMENT SLIDE.

10:15:14 IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE NUMBER 4, PLEASE.

10:15:17 DO YOU SEE SLIDE NUMBER 4?

10:15:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN EVERYONE SEE THE SLIDE?

10:15:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:15:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

10:15:39 >>JOSEPH JOHNSON: IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE NUMBER 4, WHAT WE

10:15:43 DID, CITY OF TAMPA NET BUDGET AND GENERAL FUND, BETWEEN

10:15:48 FISCAL YEAR 2018 TO FISCAL YEAR 2021, JUST KIND OF BREAK

10:15:52 DOWN WHERE THE CITY'S BUDGET HAS BEEN.

10:15:54 THE NET BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 18 WAS 947,000.

10:15:59 FISCAL YEAR 19 IT WENT UP TO 1 BILLION.

10:16:03 FISCAL YEAR 20, IT WENT UP TO A BILLION 41.

10:16:09 FISCAL YEAR 21 IT'S AT $1.2 BILLION.

10:16:12 THE GENERAL FUND WAS AT $399,300,000 AND YOU LOOK AT FISCAL





10:16:19 YEAR '19, WENT UP 412.

10:16:22 FISCAL YEAR '20, 435.

10:16:25 FISCAL YEAR '21, 457.

10:16:27 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:16:29 WE DID A COMPARATIVE AROUND OTHER CITIES THAT KIND OF

10:16:39 COMPARED TO TAMPA, BUT A LITTLE LARGER.

10:16:42 MIAMI'S BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '21 WAS AT 1.9 BILLION.

10:16:46 ORLANDO RIGHT AT 1.4.

10:16:48 TAMPA IS IN AT 1.2 BILLION AND FT. LAUDERDALE IS AT $853

10:16:53 MILLION.

10:16:55 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021.

10:16:59 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

10:17:00 LOOKING AT THE AREAS THAT WE IDENTIFIED CONTRACTUAL SERVICES

10:17:09 AND OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES, AS YOU CAN SEE, FISCAL YEAR

10:17:12 18 WE WERE AT 16.5 MILLION.

10:17:15 FISCAL YEAR 19, WE WERE AT 18 MILLION.

10:17:18 FISCAL YEAR 20, WE'RE AT 22.6 MILLION.

10:17:21 AND FOR FISCAL YEAR '21, WE DROPPED DOWN TO 19.3 MILLION.

10:17:27 IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES, FISCAL YEAR '18

10:17:31 WAS AT 35 MILLION.

10:17:33 FISCAL YEAR '19, AT 34.

10:17:36 FISCAL YEAR '20, WE'RE AT 36.6.

10:17:38 AND FISCAL YEAR '21, WE'RE DOWN TO 34.4 MILLION.

10:17:43 NEXT SLIDE.

10:17:44 NOW WE GO INTO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, AND WE'RE GOING TO





10:17:49 START WITH MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS.

10:17:51 AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT FISCAL YEAR 2018 FOR CONTRACTUAL

10:17:55 SERVICES.

10:17:55 THEY ARE AT $63,999.

10:17:59 FISCAL YEAR 2019, THEY DROPPED DOWN TO 59,000, CLOSE TO

10:18:05 60,000.

10:18:06 FISCAL YEAR 2020, THEY WENT UP TO 82, AND IN FISCAL YEAR --

10:18:12 WELL, THEY PROJECTED 82,000, AND THEY ADOPTED 83,000 FOR

10:18:17 FISCAL YEAR 20.

10:18:18 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, THEY DROPPED A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

10:18:23 IF YOU LOOK DOWN BELOW AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, WE WENT

10:18:27 TO SEE WHERE WE CAN SAVE, AND WE DID THIS BASED ON AN

10:18:31 AVERAGE.

10:18:32 WE KIND OF LOOKED AT WHERE THE ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE BEEN AND

10:18:37 WE TRIED TO GET IT AS CLOSE TO FISCAL YEAR 18.

10:18:40 WE DID THAT BECAUSE WE'RE IN CHALLENGING TIMES WITH

10:18:43 COVID-19.

10:18:45 SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THE CERTAINTY OF IF WE'RE GOING TO

10:18:48 GET BACK TO NORMAL OPERATING CAPACITY.

10:18:52 SO THERE ARE SOME AREAS TO SAVE.

10:18:55 I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, NUMBER 8,

10:18:58 PLEASE.

10:18:58 CONVENTIONS AND TOURISM.

10:19:02 WE LOOK AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

10:19:04 FISCAL YEAR 2018 THEY USED 2.5 MILLION.





10:19:07 FISCAL YEAR 19, THEY WERE RIGHT AT 3.2.

10:19:11 FISCAL YEAR 20, THEY PROJECTED 2.5, ADOPTED 3.2.

10:19:16 FISCAL YEAR 21, WE'RE AT 3.1.

10:19:19 SO, AGAIN, USING THE AVERAGE, WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, OKAY,

10:19:25 THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON AT THE CONVENTION

10:19:28 CENTER, SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE ON CONTRACTUAL

10:19:32 SERVICES, OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES.

10:19:34 WE DID THIS THROUGHOUT EVERY DEPARTMENT.

10:19:36 I KNOW THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME, SO I WON'T GO

10:19:39 THROUGH EVERY SLIDE.

10:19:41 SO I WILL FAST-FORWARD TO SLIDE NUMBER -- GIVE ME ONE SECOND

10:19:48 HERE -- WE'LL GO TO SLIDE NUMBER 32, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE

10:19:55 HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.

10:19:58 I WON'T HOLD THE COMMITTEE.

10:20:00 BUT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 2021 FOR BUDGETED

10:20:04 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AND OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES, THEY

10:20:06 ARE RIGHT AT $59.9 MILLION.

10:20:10 CLOSE TO $60 MILLION.

10:20:12 WE PROPOSE CUTTING THAT BY 29% AND DROPPING IT DOWN TO 42

10:20:18 MILLION, SAVING 17,513,000 DOLLARS, AND WE CAN TAKE THE

10:20:27 FUNDS AND ALLOCATE IT EITHER TO THE RESERVES OR WE CAN

10:20:30 ALLOCATE IT TO OUR PROGRAMS.

10:20:32 LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

10:20:35 I'LL GO TO MY RECOMMENDATIONS AND MY CLOSING NOTE.

10:20:42 YEAR OVER YEAR -- FOR THE TWO AREAS SHOW THE CHALLENGE AND





10:20:44 BUDGET RESPONSIBILITY OR ACCOUNTABILITY.

10:20:45 AND THIS IS JUST MY TEAM TAKING A LOOK AT THESE TWO AREAS.

10:20:49 THERE ARE DEFINITELY MORE AREAS IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE CAN

10:20:52 CUT AND SAVE MORE MONEY TO PUT IN RESERVE.

10:20:55 EACH DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE HELD TO A BUDGETARY AUDIT

10:20:58 RESPONSIBILITY AND METRIC.

10:21:00 IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY INTERNAL AUDIT

10:21:02 DEPARTMENT MOVE TO THE STAGE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL LEVEL,

10:21:06 MEANING HAVING THE FREEDOM TO AUDIT DEPARTMENT'S FINANCES

10:21:09 WHEN ASKED TO DO SO BY CITY COUNCIL OR AT RANDOM.

10:21:13 AS MENTIONED IN THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE

10:21:15 RECOMMENDATION PRESENTATION AUGUST 20th, A QUARTERLY

10:21:18 REVIEW AND CONTROL PLAN SHOULD BE IN PLACE PERTAINING TO

10:21:22 EACH CITY DEPARTMENT'S APPROVED BUDGET.

10:21:25 IF THE DEPARTMENT OR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS CONTINUOUSLY

10:21:28 INCREASE THIS, THERE IS NO REGULATION WITHOUT BUDGETARY

10:21:32 REGULATIONS, THE CITY IN EACH DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO THRIVE

10:21:35 IS AFFECTED.

10:21:37 THERE IS A DISCONNECT IN HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS BEING RAN AS

10:21:39 A WHOLE.

10:21:40 A DEPARTMENT THAT IS IRRESPONSIBLE IN THEIR SPENDING IS

10:21:43 GUARANTEED TO NOT BE FUNCTIONING AND THRIVING IN OTHER

10:21:47 AREAS.

10:21:48 BUDGETARY RESPONSIBILITY IS THE LIVELIHOOD OF THE CITY'S

10:21:52 LONG-TERM GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.





10:21:53 EACH DEPARTMENT MUST HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY TO

10:21:58 UNDERSTAND GROWTH AND BUDGETARY RESPONSIBILITY IN A WAY THAT

10:22:02 LEAVES SMALL ROOM FOR ERROR.

10:22:04 IF THERE IS NO TARGET BUDGET AND THE BUDGET CONTINUOUSLY

10:22:07 INCREASES FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT, THE VARIATION IN SPENDING

10:22:12 MIGRATES FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CORE FISCAL BUDGET.

10:22:16 A CITY SHOULD HAVE A CORE FISCAL BUDGET THAT ITS DEPARTMENTS

10:22:20 OPERATE FROM AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS SHOULD BE THERE FOR NEW

10:22:23 PROGRAMS AND TO AID IN THE CITY'S GROWTH.

10:22:25 TO BEAUTIFY A CITY THAT INTERNALLY ITS DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT

10:22:31 HELD TO NO METRIC WILL KEEP EACH DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY FROM

10:22:34 REACHING ITS POTENTIAL LEVEL OF GROWTH.

10:22:37 FINALLY, WHETHER I COULD TELL YOU TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS

10:22:41 COMMITTEE OR NOT, IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT ALL

10:22:44 APPOINTEES SHOULD HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF FISCAL PROFIT AND

10:22:48 LOSS KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING, AS THIS IS A COMMITTEE

10:22:51 THAT IS ALL ABOUT THE NUMBERS FOR CITY COUNCIL AND FOR THE

10:22:54 CITY OF TAMPA.

10:22:57 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

10:22:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD

10:23:01 MEMBERS?

10:23:01 ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?

10:23:04 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR?

10:23:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.

10:23:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN COUNCILMAN





10:23:09 GUDES.

10:23:09 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:23:13 >>BILL CARLSON: I HOPE THAT WE'LL GET THAT WHOLE

10:23:15 PRESENTATION, THAT IT WILL BE POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE SO

10:23:17 EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AND IDEALLY ON THE CITY'S Facebook

10:23:20 PAGE, TOO.

10:23:21 FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR APPOINTING MR.

10:23:24 JOHNSON.

10:23:24 I DID NOT KNOW MR. JOHNSON BEFORE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

10:23:27 IT'S GREAT TO HAVE SUCH A BRILLIANT VOLUNTEER TO DO THIS

10:23:37 AMOUNT OF WORK TO ASSIST US.

10:23:39 THE BUDGET IS DENSE.

10:23:40 THE MORE FEEDBACK WE CAN GET, ESPECIALLY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK,

10:23:44 I THINK THE BETTER WE ALL ARE.

10:23:46 AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'LL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT ANY OF

10:23:49 THESE IDEAS OR NOT.

10:23:51 BUT IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS WHOLE COMMITTEE,

10:23:55 THANKS TO ALL OF THEM FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

10:23:57 ONE THING I THINK WE SHOULD ALL SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THE

10:24:02 RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION WILL LOOK AT

10:24:04 IT, TOO.

10:24:05 REMEMBER, MY CONCERN LAST YEAR WAS ANTICIPATING A RECESSION

10:24:08 AT SOME POINT, WE SHOULD PUT AS MUCH AS WE COULD INTO THE

10:24:13 GENERAL FUND RESERVE.

10:24:13 THIS YEAR, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE SAME.





10:24:15 THE ECONOMISTS THAT I'M HEARING ARE SAYING, I THINK

10:24:18 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ALSO WARNED US ABOUT THIS, THAT THE

10:24:21 ECONOMY IS GOING TO GET WORSE NEXT YEAR WHEN THE EVICTION

10:24:27 PROHIBITIONS ARE LIFTED, THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE

10:24:30 HOMELESS PEOPLE.

10:24:32 WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH PROPERTY TAXES.

10:24:36 JUST BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES HAPPEN TO GO UP LAST YEAR

10:24:41 DOESN'T MEAN WE SPEND ALL THE MONEY THIS YEAR.

10:24:43 WE CAN TAKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND PUT IN RESERVES FOR NEXT

10:24:46 YEAR.

10:24:46 WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.

10:24:48 I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN

10:24:50 GUDES.

10:24:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, GO AHEAD.

10:24:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP

10:24:55 THIS MORNING.

10:24:55 AGAIN, LET ME THANK THE COMMITTEE ON THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE

10:24:58 ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS WITHOUT PAY.

10:25:00 LET ME TELL YOU, MR. JOHNSON, I KNOWN YOU A LONG TIME.

10:25:04 PLAY BALL FOR ME AT THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE AND YOU'VE

10:25:09 GROWN AT A LEVEL OF SIMPLIFICATION AND KNOWLEDGE OF FINANCES

10:25:14 WITH THE SEVERAL BUSINESSES YOU RUN AND KNOW HOW TO COUNT

10:25:17 THE NUMBERS.

10:25:17 I'M VERY GRATEFUL WHAT YOU PRESENTED.

10:25:19 I THINK IT'S VERY DETAILED, AND I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL IS





10:25:22 VERY PLEASED WITH THE WORK YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE DONE

10:25:25 TO GIVE US GOOD, HARD FACTS AND THINGS TO LOOK AT AND MAYBE

10:25:29 QUESTION AND ASK THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT.

10:25:30 AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE.

10:25:33 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. SHELBY A QUESTION, PLEASE.

10:25:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. GUDES.

10:25:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, IF YOU CAN TELL ME, I KNOW LAST

10:25:43 TIME, MR. JOHNSON DID MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU DID COME

10:25:46 BACK AND GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT THE --

10:25:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, I REVIEWED THE RESOLUTIONS RELATING TO

10:25:53 THIS BOARD, AND I SEE NOTHING THAT PREVENTS IT FROM MEETING,

10:25:56 SETTING UP ITS MEETING SCHEDULE.

10:25:58 HOWEVER IT SO DESIRES, OF COURSE, SUBJECT TO WORKING WITH

10:26:01 THE ADMINISTRATION AND ITS SCHEDULE.

10:26:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE

10:26:06 INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING A MOTION NOW OR I CAN DO IT

10:26:09 DURING NEW BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THIS COUNCIL

10:26:12 LOOK AT THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS AS SUGGESTED.

10:26:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S BRING IT UP DURING NEW BUSINESS SO

10:26:17 WE CAN KEEP THE AGENDA MOVING AND WE'LL BRING IT UP THEN.

10:26:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIR.

10:26:23 THANK YOU.

10:26:23 I YIELD BACK.

10:26:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:26:25 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?





10:26:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER.

10:26:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:26:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:26:32 THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON AND YOUR COMMITTEE FOR PUTTING IN ALL

10:26:36 THIS WORK AND EFFORT.

10:26:40 A WHILE BACK WELL, LET'S SAY DURING THE RECESSION, IT BECAME

10:26:45 VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE CITY WAS LAYING OFF A LOT OF CITY

10:26:49 EMPLOYEES IN ORDER TO MAKE ITS BUDGET.

10:26:52 I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, ULTIMATELY THE NUMBER OF

10:26:55 POSITIONS THAT WERE ELIMINATED, PEOPLE WERE LAID OFF,

10:26:58 ET CETERA.

10:27:00 I THINK IT WAS IN THE HUNDREDS.

10:27:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 750, I THINK.

10:27:06 I MIGHT BE WRONG.

10:27:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

10:27:10 IN THE HIGH HUNDREDS.

10:27:15 AND MOST OF THOSE FOLKS WERE ATU EMPLOYEES THAT WE LOST AND

10:27:23 THOSE POSITIONS WERE LOST.

10:27:24 EITHER DURING THAT TIME OR SUBSEQUENTLY, THE JOBS THEY WERE

10:27:29 DOING WERE REPLACED WITH CONTRACTUAL LABOR.

10:27:32 AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

10:27:35 I WON'T GO INTO IT IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT THE CITY LOSES THE

10:27:40 ABILITY TO CLOSELY SUPERVISE FOLKS LIKE THAT.

10:27:45 WHEN WE LOSE CITY EMPLOYEES, THOSE INDIVIDUALS LOSE THEIR

10:27:50 BENEFITS, THEIR INSURANCE, THEIR HEALTH CARE.





10:27:53 THEIR FAMILIES LOSE THEIR HEALTH CARE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

10:27:56 I THINK IT WAS A BAD TREND.

10:27:58 IT WAS A BAD DECISION.

10:28:00 BUT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.

10:28:04 MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU ADVOCATING CUTTING

10:28:07 BACK ON CONTRACTUAL SERVICES BUT REPLACING SOME OF THOSE

10:28:11 FUNCTIONS WITH CITY EMPLOYEES?

10:28:15 OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THOSE FUNCTIONS

10:28:18 PERIOD?

10:28:20 >>JOSEPH JOHNSON: THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILMAN

10:28:22 DINGFELDER.

10:28:23 SO, AGAIN, IN GOING BACK IN AND SCOURING THE BUDGET AND

10:28:30 THOSE TWO AREAS STANDING OUT, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, AS YOU

10:28:33 WILL SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF EACH DEPARTMENT

10:28:35 THAT WE DID, YOU WILL SEE A GRADUAL INCREASE EVERY YEAR.

10:28:40 YOU HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT REALLY HAVE NO NEED FOR

10:28:43 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THAT ARE BEING FUNDED WITH CONTRACTUAL

10:28:47 SERVICES.

10:28:47 AND THIS IS NO SLIGHT ON THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.

10:28:50 I MEAN, THIS HAS JUST BEEN ONGOING PRACTICES.

10:28:53 AND WE WENT BACK FOUR YEARS.

10:28:55 WE WENT BACK TO 2018.

10:28:57 HAD WE GONE BACK -- AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GO

10:29:01 BACK TO 2015 TO CURRENT DAY, BUT I WILL ADVOCATE THAT

10:29:06 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES NEEDS TO BE SCALED BACK.





10:29:10 AND INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT IT FROM A NUMBERS STANDPOINT, WE

10:29:12 NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM AN ACTIVITY STANDPOINT WHEN YOU'RE

10:29:16 DOING CONTRACTS.

10:29:18 EVERYTHING IS NOT ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

10:29:21 EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ABOUT THE ACTIVITY.

10:29:25 AND I THINK THAT WHEN THE CITY REALIZES THAT, NOT JUST FROM

10:29:29 AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, BUT FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT

10:29:34 AND BOTH SIDES WORKING TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE TRUE

10:29:39 BUDGET THAT IS NEEDED FOR THE OPERATION OF TAMPA, THEN WE

10:29:44 WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE AT A CAPACITY WHICH WE SHOULD NEVER

10:29:48 HAVE TO LAY OFF CITY EMPLOYEES.

10:29:51 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE SCALED BACK

10:29:56 AND ALSO WE NEED AN EXPLANATION AS IT PERTAINS TO OTHER

10:30:03 SERVICES AND CHARGES.

10:30:04 THAT JUST ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT BASICALLY UNACCOUNTED FOR

10:30:10 AND NEEDS TO BE LINE ITEM TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE FUNDS ARE

10:30:15 ALLOCATED FOR.

10:30:16 IF YOU GO TO EVERY DEPARTMENT BY LOOKING AT THE SLIDES,

10:30:18 YOU'LL SEE IT CLEAR AS DAY, YOU'LL SEE THE TRENDS, UP DOWN,

10:30:21 UP, DOWN.

10:30:23 IT'S NOT PEAKING AND VALLEY.

10:30:25 IT'S CONTINUALLY PEAKING EVERY YEAR.

10:30:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH THAT, THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

10:30:30 MR. CHAIRMAN, IF MR. BENNETT OR SOMEBODY ON HIS TEAM WOULD

10:30:33 LIKE TO RESPOND, I THINK A RESPONSE IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS





10:30:36 TIME.

10:30:37 MY ONLY RESPONSE IS AT THE CITY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A

10:30:45 LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE.

10:30:47 AND THEY EITHER GET DONE BY OUR STAFF OR THEY GET DONE BY

10:30:51 PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE THROUGH CONTRACTS.

10:30:55 WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH QUALITY OF LIFE AND CERTAIN

10:30:59 STANDARDS THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS EXPECTING.

10:31:06 MR. BENNETT AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ON SEVERAL

10:31:08 OCCASIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND I'VE BEEN PUSHING THEM TO

10:31:13 INCREASE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND DECREASE THE

10:31:17 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.

10:31:19 ANYWAY, IF MR. BENNETT HAS ANYTHING, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR

10:31:23 FROM HIM.

10:31:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BENNETT, DO YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO

10:31:27 THAT?

10:31:29 >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:31:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:31:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO WAIT AND SEE -- I DON'T

10:31:37 KNOW IF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN.

10:31:39 I WAS GOING TO ASK, MR. ROGERO AND MR. BENNETT, REGARDING

10:31:43 THESE THINGS.

10:31:44 BUT GOING BACK TO 2008, UNDER THE IORIO ADMINISTRATION, WE

10:31:50 HAD TO MAKE VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES AS WE WILL UNDER MY

10:31:53 PESSIMISTIC VIEW OF THINGS, AS I WAS QUOTED ONCE IN THE

10:31:56 PAPER, SAYING THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOSE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF





10:31:59 MONIES AND SO FAR, HATE TO ADMIT FOR ONCE THAT I WAS RIGHT

10:32:02 WHEN I REALLY WANT TO BE WRONG.

10:32:05 WHEN I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THIS, I'VE HEARD STATEMENTS MADE,

10:32:09 WHICH ARE FACTUAL AND TRUE, BUT ONE FACT THAT CAUGHT ME

10:32:12 RIGHT AWAY IS THAT WE SHOULD NEVER LOSE CITY EMPLOYEES.

10:32:17 THAT'S THE QUICKEST WAY OF GOING BROKE WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE

10:32:22 FUNDING CUT NOT BY NECESSITY, BY MEANS OF NECESSITY OF THE

10:32:25 ENVIRONMENT THAT THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS IN.

10:32:27 THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:32:30 IT WASN'T THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD AND

10:32:31 THE REST OF THE CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES THIS GREAT

10:32:34 COUNTRY WAS DOING WELL, IT WAS THAT WE WERE ONE OF EVERY

10:32:38 CITY, EVERY COUNTY AND EVERY GOVERNMENT OF STATE IN THIS

10:32:41 GREAT COUNTRY THAT WAS GOING THROUGH A SUFFERING OF FACT.

10:32:45 AND THE FACT IS, WE WERE IN A RECESSION.

10:32:48 AND IF YOU THINK 2020 IS NOT SO GOOD, 2021 IS GOING TO BE

10:32:54 SO-SO, MY OPINION IS IN 2022, WHEN THIS THING HITS AND THE

10:32:59 TRIM NOTICES GO OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO FACE A DOWNFALL MORE

10:33:03 THAN LIKELY GREATER THAN THE GREAT RECESSION BECAUSE OF MANY

10:33:07 FACTORS IN LIFE.

10:33:08 A DIVIDED COUNTRY.

10:33:09 INSTEAD OF BEING FOR THE PEOPLE, IT'S DIVIDED WHETHER YOU

10:33:12 ARE AN R, A D, OR AN I.

10:33:14 AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE TROUBLING ME AND I'M SURE

10:33:17 TROUBLING ALL OF US.





10:33:18 SO WHEN I LOOK BACK AND I SIT AND I WATCH AND I LISTEN, AND

10:33:23 YOU CANNOT HAVE MORE EMPLOYEES AND LESS MONEY COMING IN TO

10:33:28 GIVE THE SERVICES OF THE GREAT PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA

10:33:31 SO DULY DESERVE.

10:33:34 BY THE WAY, I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA FROM THE TIME

10:33:36 I'VE BEEN ON TO NOW HAS TRIED TO DO THE BEST IT CAN TO MAKE

10:33:39 SURE THAT ALL THE GOODS AND SERVICES WERE NEEDED.

10:33:42 AND WE'VE HAD SHORTFALLS, OF COURSE, WE HAVE.

10:33:45 RIGHT NOW BEEN IN LITIGATION, NOT YOU AND I AGAINST THE

10:33:48 WORLD, BUT THE TAX THAT WE PASSED TO GET THAT MONEYS IN FOR

10:33:53 BETTER ROADS AND SITUATIONS -- SUPREME COURT WITHOUT A

10:33:56 RULING YET.

10:33:57 I'M AFRAID IF THAT THING GOES DOWN, WHICH HAS A 50-50 CHANCE

10:34:02 OF DOING, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TURMOIL OF WHAT WE'RE GOING

10:34:06 TO DO WITH THE ROADS WE NEED.

10:34:11 WE CAN'T DO ALL OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE MONIES THAT

10:34:14 WE HAVE PASS, $2.9 BILLION IN THE PIPES PROGRAM THAT THIS

10:34:19 COUNCIL SO DULY AND SO BRAVELY WENT ON AND TOOK THE BIG STEP

10:34:23 OF FIXING THINGS YOU DON'T SEE.

10:34:24 WHEN YOU DON'T SEE SOMETHING, YOU DON'T REALIZE IT'S GOING

10:34:28 BAD.

10:34:29 SO WE DON'T SEE PIPES.

10:34:32 YOU DON'T SEE THE UNDERGROUND, BUT WITHOUT THE UNDERGROUND,

10:34:35 THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN BUILD, NOTHING YOU CAN MAINTAIN

10:34:38 ABOVEGROUND.





10:34:38 SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE THINGS -- MYSELF SAYING, HOW CAN I

10:34:44 DO SOMETHING WHEN I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY?

10:34:46 YOU CANNOT GO OUT AND DO THE PIPES PROGRAM NOW, BECAUSE IF

10:34:49 YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE OPENING AND CLOSING THE SURFACE

10:34:52 OF THOSE STREETS NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT MANY MORE TIMES.

10:34:56 WE CANNOT PAVE THE STREETS THAT WE WANT TO PAVE IF WE HAD

10:34:59 THE MONEY TODAY UNTIL WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT ALL BECAUSE

10:35:03 YOU CAN'T START A PROGRAM, CLOSE A STREET, PUT THE PIPE IN,

10:35:07 AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT UP BECAUSE

10:35:09 YOU NEED MORE MONEY TO CONTINUE THE JOB.

10:35:12 AND YOU HAVE THE MONEY COMING IN FOR THE PIPES PROGRAM.

10:35:17 SO THESE THINGS, IN MY OPINION, VERY NECESSITY TO LOOK AT

10:35:20 THE FUTURE OF THIS GREAT CITY.

10:35:22 IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.

10:35:24 NOT ABOUT US.

10:35:25 IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US.

10:35:26 ALL OF US, ALL OF THE FUTURE OF OUR GRANDKIDS, GREAT

10:35:29 GRANDKIDS, AND EVERYONE THAT'S IN TAMPA.

10:35:35 WHY IS TAMPA IN NEED OF THINGS?

10:35:37 NOT TOO LONG AGO, OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO SCHOOL, COLLEGES ALL

10:35:40 OVER THE WORLD.

10:35:41 GUESS WHAT, MOST OF THEM DIDN'T COME BACK.

10:35:44 I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT IN MY FAMILY AND IN YOUR FAMILY

10:35:49 AND IN MOST OF THE FAMILIES IN THIS GREAT CITY THAT WE LIVE

10:35:52 IN, THEY MAY GO TO SCHOOL OUT-OF-STATE, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE





10:35:56 COMING BACK.

10:35:56 THAT'S WHAT'S MAKING IT SO VIBRANT SO UNIQUE.

10:36:01 THE LAST CENSUS THAT I REMEMBERED IN CITIES THAT WERE RANKED

10:36:04 1, 2, 3 AND SO ON IN THE COUNTRY, TAMPA FINISHED SECOND.

10:36:08 THE LARGEST CITY THAT WAS GROWING FASTER THAN TAMPA WAS

10:36:12 PHOENIX, ARIZONA.

10:36:13 BUT EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER, TAMPA WAS NUMBER ONE.

10:36:18 IT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE LAST ITEM WAS DONE.

10:36:22 GEOGRAPHICALLY, OTHER STUDIES WERE DONE TO CALCULATE THE

10:36:25 FIGURES AND THE FACTS.

10:36:26 AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, IF POSSIBLE, THESE

10:36:29 THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP.

10:36:31 I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS SLIDE UNTIL I'VE SEEN IT TODAY.

10:36:33 I NEVER KNEW THIS WAS ON UNTIL I REALIZED THAT SOMEBODY TOLD

10:36:37 ME THERE WAS A SLIDE SHOW.

10:36:39 I SAID I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE.

10:36:41 I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE.

10:36:42 I'M SURE THAT IT WAS DONE IN GREAT DIGNITY AND GREAT RESPECT

10:36:48 AND THIS TIME WHEN YOU HAVE TO GET THINGS DONE WITHIN A

10:36:51 CERTAIN CRITERIA OF TIME, I DON'T BLAME THEM AT ALL FOR

10:36:54 DOING WHAT THEY DID.

10:36:56 IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THESE

10:36:58 QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ANSWERED BY MR. ROGERO, MR. BENNETT, THE

10:37:01 CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF THE CITY,

10:37:03 IF I MAY.





10:37:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:37:07 I BELIEVE MR. BAIRD WAS GOING TO SPEAK.

10:37:15 >>BRAD BAIRD: CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:37:16 [ECHOING]

10:37:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HEAR YOU WITH AN ECHO.

10:37:23 BACKGROUND --

10:37:25 >>BRAD BAIRD: OKAY.

10:37:27 I TURNED OFF THE PHONE.

10:37:28 BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

10:37:34 I WOULD DEFER TO MR. ROGERO OR MR. BENNETT TO ANSWER ANY

10:37:40 QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

10:37:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MR. ROGERO AND MR. BENNETT ON

10:37:48 THE PHONE?

10:37:50 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING,

10:37:53 COUNCIL.

10:37:53 GOOD MORNING, MR. JOHNSON AND THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

10:37:57 AGAIN, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.

10:37:59 I HAVE WITH ME MR. ROGERO, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AND

10:38:03 OUR BUDGET DIRECTOR, MIKE PERRY AS WELL.

10:38:08 FIRST, LIKE COUNCIL DID, I WANT TO THANK MR. JOHNSON AND THE

10:38:11 BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THEIR VOLUNTEER EFFORTS IN

10:38:15 LOOKING AT OUR FY '21 PROPOSED BUDGET.

10:38:18 AS COUNCIL KNOWS, UPON THE ADOPTION OF THE FY '20 BUDGET, IT

10:38:23 WAS THIS ADMINISTRATION'S GENUINE EFFORT TO WORK WITH

10:38:27 COUNCIL NOT JUST LEADING INTO THE BUDGET FOR FY '21, BUT





10:38:33 BEGINNING THE DAY AFTER FY '20 WENT INTO EFFECT.

10:38:37 AND AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE DID THAT WITH A SERIES OF STAFF

10:38:41 PRESENTATIONS, OPEN ARMS TO THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO

10:38:44 COME IN AND MEET WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DIRECTORS AND

10:38:48 ADMINISTRATORS AS IT RELATES TO THEIR UTILIZATION OF THE

10:38:51 BUDGET.

10:38:52 I, TOO, APOLOGIZE THAT THE FIRST TIME THAT I WAS MADE AWARE

10:38:56 OF THIS SLIDE SHOW WAS AT 6 P.M. LAST NIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF

10:39:01 A TOWN HALL MEETING WITH VM YBOR ALONGSIDE THE MAYOR, WHICH

10:39:05 LASTED TILL ALMOST 9 P.M.

10:39:08 I TOOK A DEEPER DIVE INTO IT ABOUT 4 A.M. THIS MORNING.

10:39:12 WENT THROUGH IT, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE DILIGENCE OF

10:39:17 THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF BRINGING THESE

10:39:20 OPPORTUNITIES FORWARD.

10:39:23 AS THE FINANCE CHAIR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, AS WELL AS

10:39:28 THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, TAKING A LOOK AT THIS FROM THE

10:39:33 TWO CATEGORIES THAT WERE PRESENTED.

10:39:35 BUT THE ONE THING THAT DID TRIGGER ME THIS MORNING, AND I

10:39:38 SENT AN OPPORTUNITY SLIDE JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT BASED ON

10:39:43 WHAT I COULD SEE WITH THE DATA, NOT SO MUCH AS IT PERTAINED

10:39:46 TO THE INTRICACIES OF EACH DEPARTMENT AND BUDGET, BUT I DID

10:39:49 PUT A SLIDE TOGETHER, AGAIN, JUST BEFORE 6:00 THIS MORNING,

10:39:54 TO GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ON THE COMPARISON CITIES

10:39:58 THAT WERE USED, WHICH WERE MIAMI, ORLANDO, AND

10:40:01 FT. LAUDERDALE.





10:40:03 AND I SENT THAT TO SULING IN CASE WE NEEDED TO SHOW THAT.

10:40:07 IF SHE COULD BRING THAT UP REAL QUICK, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE

10:40:11 COUNCIL -- [AUDIO BREAKS UP] -- GO FURTHER HAD I --

10:40:20 [SILENCE] -- IF COUNCIL CAN SEE THIS, WHAT I DID IS I

10:40:26 GRABBED THE CITIES THAT MR. JOHNSON'S PRESENTATION WAS

10:40:29 COMPARING TO, AND I DROPPED IN THE 2019 CENSUS POPULATION,

10:40:34 AND I USED THE TOTAL BUDGET PROPOSED FOR FY '21 FOR EACH OF

10:40:38 THOSE CITIES AND CAME UP WITH A PER CAPITA COST.

10:40:42 AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE PER CAPITA COSTS ON THE RIGHT, AND IF

10:40:46 YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE OF THOSE, WHICH IS LINE FOUR, IT

10:40:48 CAME OUT TO $4,605 PER CAPITA FOR THOSE THREE COMPARISON

10:40:56 CITIES.

10:40:56 THEN I PLUGGED IN TAMPA'S NUMBERS, AND WE CAME OUT AT $3,138

10:41:00 PER CAPITA, WHICH IS ALMOST SHY OF $1500 PER CAPITA LOWER

10:41:07 THAN THOSE THREE OTHER CITIES, WHICH IS A 31.8% DROP, IF YOU

10:41:13 WILL, OF THE AVERAGE OF THOSE THREE CITIES THAT WERE USED IN

10:41:16 THE COMPARISON.

10:41:16 TO SAY IT DIFFERENTLY, THOSE BUDGET AVERAGES ARE 46.7%

10:41:23 HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE CITY.

10:41:27 SO THAT WAS MY FIRST POINT OF REFERENCE THAT I COULD GET MY

10:41:30 HEAD AROUND THIS MORNING AND GIVE SOME IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK IN

10:41:34 CONTEXT TO THE OVERALL PRESENTATION.

10:41:36 AND BELOW THIS GRAPHIC, I PUT IN THE ACTUAL 2019 CENSUS

10:41:41 ESTIMATES BELOW AS A REFERENCE.

10:41:42 AND THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS, AGAIN, I DIDN'T





10:41:45 HAVE TIME TO GO BACK AND TALK TO ALL THE ADMINISTRATORS, ALL

10:41:49 THE DIRECTORS BETWEEN THE TIME I SAW THAT DATA, BUT I DO

10:41:53 HAVE MR. ROGERO AND MR. PERRY HERE, BUT I WILL SAY, WORKING

10:41:57 IN THE CITY FOR 31 YEARS AND BEING INVOLVED IN

10:42:00 BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGETS, AND SEEING THE DIFFERENT EBBS AND

10:42:05 FLOWS OF THE ECONOMY, THERE IS A HEALTHY DEBATE AROUND

10:42:09 HAVING YOUR CORE PERSONNEL AND USING THE CONTRACTUAL EBBS

10:42:13 AND FLOWS TO GET THE LEVEL OF SERVICES DONE IN THE COMMUNITY

10:42:17 AT A HIGH STANDARD, AND THEN USING THOSE TO THROTTLE UP AND

10:42:21 DOWN AS THE ECONOMY EBBS AND FLOWS TO NOT AFFECT SOMEBODY'S

10:42:25 CAREER PATH.

10:42:26 AND THAT'S JUST THE EXPERIENCE THAT I'M USED TO.

10:42:28 I'M ALWAYS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE

10:42:31 ADMINISTRATION.

10:42:32 BUT THAT'S MY INITIAL FEEDBACK ON WHAT I PICKED UP IN THE

10:42:37 PRESENTATION OVERNIGHT.

10:42:38 SO WITH THAT, I TURN IT BACK TO COUNCIL, OR IF THERE ARE ANY

10:42:42 QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROGERO OR MR. PERRY, WE ARE AVAILABLE.

10:42:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:42:47 WE ARE 30 MINUTES INTO THIS PRESENTATION.

10:42:51 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE WE WRAP IT

10:42:53 UP?

10:42:56 I HEAR NO QUESTIONS.

10:42:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:42:58 I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES HAD A MOTION, BUT WE'LL HOLD





10:43:05 IT FOR THE END OF THE AGENDA.

10:43:10 ALL RIGHT.

10:43:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. JOHNSON.

10:43:12 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS CARLSON.

10:43:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:43:18 YES, SIR.

10:43:18 >>BILL CARLSON: TO CHIEF BENNETT AND CFO, ANY HELP YOU ALL

10:43:25 CAN GIVE US IN LOOKING THROUGH THESE AND SERIOUSLY ANALYZING

10:43:30 WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

10:43:31 SINCE THE BUDGET WAS ANNOUNCED AND WITH THE HEADLINE THAT

10:43:35 IT'S THE LARGEST BUDGET IN THE HISTORY OF TAMPA, I'VE BEEN

10:43:39 FLOODED WITH CALLS AND PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT AND ASKED WHY

10:43:43 IS THE CITY SPENDING SO MUCH?

10:43:45 I'M SURE THERE'S GREAT JUSTIFICATION FOR ALL OF IT, BUT

10:43:48 CONSIDERING THE ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS AHEAD THAT ECONOMISTS ARE

10:43:54 PREDICTING, THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY WE WOULDN'T -- WHY

10:43:58 OUR BUDGET IS INCREASING AT WHAT LOOKS LIKE A HIGHER

10:44:02 PERCENTAGE THAN INFLATION, AND WHY THE CITY CAN'T EITHER

10:44:08 ROLL BACK TO SOME EXTENT OR TO GIVE SOME TAX RELIEF TO

10:44:14 CITIZENS WHO ARE HURTING OR PUT -- AND/OR PUT MORE INTO THE

10:44:18 GENERAL FUND RESERVES.

10:44:21 AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET HEARINGS, ANY ADVICE OR HELP YOU

10:44:24 MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US ON THAT WOULD BE GREATLY

10:44:27 APPRECIATED.

10:44:28 THANK YOU.





10:44:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:44:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN?

10:44:32 DINGFELDER.

10:44:34 JUST A QUICK RESPONSE.

10:44:36 I'VE HAD THAT QUESTION POSED TO ME AS WELL.

10:44:40 I THINK THE CLEAR ANSWER IS, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET, THE TOTAL

10:44:44 BUDGET, THE GENERAL REVENUE BUDGET IS BARELY INCHING UP,

10:44:49 JUST LIKE IT ALWAYS DOES IN GOOD TIMES.

10:44:50 JUST GOES UP 5 MILLION, 10 MILLION AS THE TAX ROLLS

10:44:54 INCREASE, AS MR. MIRANDA POINTED OUT.

10:44:56 BUT WE HAVE A $250 MILLION INCREASE.

10:45:00 I THINK THAT'S CLEARLY BECAUSE OF THE PIPES SPENDING, WHICH

10:45:03 IS FINE.

10:45:04 WE ALL AGREED THAT THE PIPES PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT.

10:45:08 WE BORROWED MONEY LONG TERM TO MAKE THE PIPES PROGRAM WORK,

10:45:12 AND RIGHT NOW AND OVER THE NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE

10:45:16 SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THE PIPES PROGRAM.

10:45:18 AND I BELIEVE, AND MR. ROGERO OR BENNETT CAN CORRECT ME, BUT

10:45:23 I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THAT ADDITIONAL $250

10:45:26 MILLION IS.

10:45:27 SO WHEN THE NEWSPAPER SAYS IT'S A RECORD BUDGET, YEAH, IT'S

10:45:31 A RECORD BUDGET BECAUSE WE BORROWED FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS

10:45:35 FOR THE UNDERGROUND -- REPLACE THE UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS.

10:45:39 THANK YOU.

10:45:39 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.





10:45:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

10:45:46 A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE A BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT THAT

10:45:49 WE CAN ASK ALL THESE QUESTIONS.

10:45:51 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:45:51 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL SAID, MR. CHAIR.

10:45:57 I'LL TRIM MY REMARKS SIGNIFICANTLY.

10:45:58 I APPRECIATE THAT REMINDER.

10:46:00 IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE LOOKING IN THE COMING YEAR

10:46:02 FUNDING $8 MILLION FOR BODY CAMERAS.

10:46:04 I BELIEVE NUMBER IS $8 MILLION.

10:46:06 $18 MILLION IN INVESTMENTS IN EAST TAMPA, SOMETHING THAT

10:46:08 MANY OF US, MANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL PUSH FOR ON MANY, MANY

10:46:14 FRONTS, LED OBVIOUSLY BY COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR HIS DISTRICT.

10:46:18 THINGS WHERE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS LOOKING TO HELP PEOPLE IN

10:46:22 TIMES OF ECONOMIC DESPAIR.

10:46:24 I'LL REPEAT, WHEN PEOPLE ARE HURTING, GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE

10:46:28 THERE TO HELP AND ASSIST AND WHATNOT.

10:46:31 JUST MY, I GUESS, PHILOSOPHICAL VIEWPOINT, I GUESS, IF YOU

10:46:35 WILL.

10:46:35 WE'LL EXPLORE THAT LATER.

10:46:38 I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND THANK YOU, MR.

10:46:39 CHAIR, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

10:46:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:46:43 THAT CONCLUDES ITEM NUMBER 3.

10:46:46 WE THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.





10:46:49 WE WILL NOW GO TO REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION

10:46:52 OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.

10:46:53 I HEAR NONE.

10:46:56 ALL RIGHT.

10:46:57 WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4.

10:46:59 WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE HERE REGARDING THE CITY'S CODE

10:47:02 ENFORCEMENT DUTIES.

10:47:03 DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4 BEFORE WE READ

10:47:06 THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?

10:47:14 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?

10:47:17 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM JULIE HARDY REQUESTING THAT THE

10:47:22 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BE READ.

10:47:24 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

10:47:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONLY ONE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:47:28 I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE ONE THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON

10:47:32 WORKED SO DILIGENTLY ON AND REALLY DID THE YEOMAN'S WORK IN

10:47:37 THE BEGINNING OF THIS.

10:47:38 WITH YOUR PERMISSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WISH HE WOULD READ THE

10:47:42 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.

10:47:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:47:44 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU REMIND READING THE SUBSTITUTE

10:47:47 ORDINANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 4, THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?

10:47:52 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.

10:47:53 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.

10:47:55 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING





10:47:59 TO -- AM I STARTING IN THE RIGHT PLACE?

10:48:04 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR -- SUBSTITUTE

10:48:07 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR -- I MOVE A SUBSTITUTE

10:48:11 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,

10:48:13 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE

10:48:15 SCOPE OF AUTHORITY OF THE CITY'S CODE ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR

10:48:18 AND DUTIES OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS; MAKING REVISIONS TO

10:48:21 THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 19 (PROPERTY

10:48:25 MAINTENANCE AND STRUCTURAL STANDARDS); AMENDING ARTICLE I.

10:48:30 IN GENERAL, DIVISION 1.

10:48:32 GENERAL PROVISIONS, ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY; SECTION 19-4.

10:48:37 DEPARTMENT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT; DUTIES AND SCOPE OF

10:48:39 AUTHORITY OF THE DIRECTOR BY EXPANDING THE POWERS, DUTIES

10:48:42 AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR AND

10:48:43 THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO ADMINISTER AND ENFORCE

10:48:46 CITY CODE CHAPTER 15 (PARKING); AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE

10:48:50 OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15 (PARKING), SECTIONS 15-3, 15-54,

10:48:56 AND 15-122 TO DEFINE DULY AUTHORIZED CODE ENFORCEMENT

10:49:00 OFFICERS AND AUTHORIZE SAME TO ENFORCE CHAPTER 15

10:49:03 PROVISIONS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES

10:49:06 IN CONFLICT THEREOF; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING

10:49:11 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:49:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:49:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:49:14 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.





10:49:17 MR. SHELBY, DO WE NEED A ROLL-CALL VOTE ON THIS OR NO?

10:49:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR, PLEASE, A ROLL-CALL VOTE.

10:49:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE A ROLL-CALL VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 4.

10:49:26 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

10:49:27 >>LUIS VIERA: I VOTE YES.

10:49:29 THANK YOU.

10:49:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:49:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:49:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:49:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:49:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:49:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:49:45 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:49:48 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 1st,

10:49:51 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:49:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:49:55 WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 5.

10:49:58 IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 5, OR ARE THERE

10:50:01 ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 5?

10:50:07 >>JAN McLEAN: MR. CHAIR, THIS IS JAN McLEAN WITH THE

10:50:09 OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY FOR ITEM NUMBER 5.

10:50:12 IF I COULD PLEASE, SIR, WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, THIS ITEM IS A

10:50:14 RESULT OF A PRESENTATION THAT WAS ALSO PROVIDED TO THE CITY

10:50:18 COUNCIL ON AUGUST THE 6th.

10:50:22 LAST YEAR, AS YOU RECALL, WHEN STAFF BROUGHT THE REQUEST FOR





10:50:26 INCREASES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES, THERE WAS A

10:50:29 REQUEST MADE OF STAFF TO LOOK AT HOW GROWTH COULD PAY FOR

10:50:35 ITS IMPACT TO THE CITY, AND THIS IS A RESULT OF THAT

10:50:38 REQUEST, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST

10:50:41 READING TODAY, PROPOSING AN INCREASE TO THE WATER AND

10:50:46 WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES.

10:50:48 HOWEVER, WE ARE ASKING THAT THE FIRST READING BE CONTINUED

10:50:53 UNTIL NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SEPTEMBER THE 17th, AS A

10:51:00 NUMBER OF QUESTIONS HAVE ARISEN VERY RECENTLY THAT WE WOULD

10:51:04 LIKE TO RESOLVE.

10:51:06 AND I BELIEVE WE COULD RESOLVE THEM.

10:51:08 THEREFORE YOU WOULD HAVE THE CORRECTED ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF

10:51:10 YOU FOR FIRST READING AT SEPTEMBER THE 17th.

10:51:12 I ALSO HAVE BRAD BAIRD ON THE LINE IF THERE ARE ANY

10:51:16 QUESTIONS.

10:51:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:51:18 IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WOULD

10:51:21 THEN NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 5.

10:51:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:51:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

10:51:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- 17, YEAR 2020 AT A 9:00 HEARING.

10:51:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:51:32 I BELIEVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:51:35 LET'S TAKE A ROLL-CALL VOTE.

10:51:38 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?





10:51:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:51:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:51:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:51:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:51:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:51:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:51:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:51:54 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:51:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.

10:51:59 WE NOW GO TO SOME COMMITTEE REPORTS HERE.

10:52:03 WE HAVE COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH ITEM NUMBER 6.

10:52:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

10:52:08 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 6.

10:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:52:14 >> SECOND.

10:52:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

10:52:15 MIRANDA, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION OR OBJECTION --

10:52:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE CAN, ROLL

10:52:29 CALL.

10:52:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL-CALL VOTE FOR ITEM NUMBER 6.

10:52:31 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

10:52:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:52:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:52:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:52:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.





10:52:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:52:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:52:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:52:47 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:52:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:52:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:52:53 NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 7, COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

10:53:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 7, MR. CHAIR.

10:53:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:53:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:53:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:53:08 ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE?

10:53:09 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

10:53:10 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:53:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:53:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:53:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:53:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:53:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:53:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:53:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:53:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:53:31 NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEMS 8-13, BUT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER

10:53:39 REQUESTED TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 8.

10:53:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS





10:53:44 ON THAT?

10:53:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:53:49 ON ITEM NUMBER 8 -- WELL, FIRST OFF, IT IS A $23 MILLION

10:53:54 ITEM, SO I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHO PUTS TOGETHER THE

10:53:58 AGENDA THAT I THINK BY COUNCIL RULE, ITEMS OVER $3 MILLION

10:54:02 ARE SUPPOSED TO AUTOMATICALLY BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS SO THEY

10:54:06 GET EXTRA SCRUTINY.

10:54:09 THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION.

10:54:11 MY SECOND QUESTION WAS, I HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF

10:54:14 DURING THE WEEK ABOUT THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, WMBE,

10:54:21 WOMEN AND MINORITY BUSINESS ENTERPRISES OPPORTUNITIES THAT

10:54:25 ARE GOING TO ARISE IN THIS $23 MILLION CONTRACT.

10:54:31 I DON'T KNOW IF MR. HART OR MR. SPEARMAN OR WHO MR. BENNETT

10:54:36 HAS ON THE LINE TO QUICKLY RESPOND TO THAT WMBE ISSUE FOR

10:54:42 ITEM 8.

10:54:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:54:49 >>GREGORY HART: THIS IS GREGORY HART, MANAGER OF THE EQUAL

10:54:52 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM.

10:54:53 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

10:54:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S A QUESTION, GREG, I THINK YOU SAID

10:55:03 THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE 16% WMBE ON THIS.

10:55:07 I SPECIFICALLY WAS ASKING ALSO WHAT THE BREAKOUT IS FOR

10:55:11 BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISES AS WELL.

10:55:14 >>GREGORY HART: YES, SIR.

10:55:17 AND I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED A RESPONSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE





10:55:21 CONCLUSIVE CALCULATION IN OUR MATRIX FOR SETTING GOALS, I

10:55:26 CAN CONFIRM THAT IF BROKEN OUT, IT WOULD REPRESENT ABOUT A

10:55:31 15% BLACK BUSINESS GOAL EXPECTATION WITH THE REMAINING 1% OF

10:55:37 SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS GOAL EXPECTATION FOR AN OVERALL GOAL OF

10:55:43 16%.

10:55:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY LAST QUESTION, MR. HART, THANK YOU FOR

10:55:51 THAT.

10:55:51 I THINK 15% IS PRETTY GOOD FOR BLACK BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.

10:55:57 MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION, IN THE RESPONSE BACK TO ME BY E-MAIL

10:56:02 YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WE CAN ASSUME 15%.

10:56:08 AND I GUESS CAN WE BE ASSURED OF 15%?

10:56:13 HOW DO WE WORK THOSE TWO WORDS?

10:56:16 >>GREGORY HART: YES.

10:56:17 I BELIEVE I USED THE TERM WHEN BROKEN OUT, IT INFERS 15% AND

10:56:22 1% FLBE.

10:56:24 WHAT I MEANT BY THAT IS THAT THE EMPIRICAL DATA, WHEN WE

10:56:28 STRIP IT OUT, AS YOU REQUESTED, THE DATA SUMMED AS 15% IS

10:56:37 EXPECTED FOR OUTREACH OR BLACK BUSINESS PARTICIPATION AND 1%

10:56:42 IS THE OUTREACH EXPECTATION FOR SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS.

10:56:45 SO THAT IS THE GOAL.

10:56:47 AND BASED ON THE DATA, WE EXPECT THAT KIND OF OUTREACH AND

10:56:51 RESULT BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF FIRMS AND HOPEFULLY THE

10:56:57 DESIRE ON THOSE FIRMS TO BE AVAILABLE TO QUOTE THE

10:57:02 SUBCONTRACT WORK THAT THE PRIME CONTRACTOR WILL PRESENT TO

10:57:05 THAT CATEGORY OF CERTIFIED FIRMS.





10:57:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

10:57:13 AND SO I ASSUME THIS IS PART OF THE PIPES PROGRAM, AND

10:57:17 YOU'RE COMING BACK TO US EVERY SIX MONTHS WITH A PIPES

10:57:20 UPDATE ON WMBE AND BBE OPPORTUNITIES?

10:57:25 >>GREGORY HART: YES, SIR.

10:57:27 I BELIEVE THAT IS THE SCHEDULE AND COLLECTIVELY WITH THE --

10:57:32 WATER AND WASTEWATER AS WELL AS OUR DEPARTMENT, WE WILL BE

10:57:35 PROVIDING THOSE UPDATES AS SCHEDULED.

10:57:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:57:41 UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A QUESTION, I'LL BE GLAD TO MOVE

10:57:44 ITEM 8 THROUGH 13.

10:57:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?

10:57:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, GO AHEAD.

10:57:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEAR THE GOAL.

10:57:52 I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE MONITORING OF THE GOAL.

10:57:58 I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THAT.

10:58:01 MR. HART TO TELL ME, AGAIN, WHAT IS THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE

10:58:05 ARE ACHIEVING THIS GOAL AND WHO IS GOING TO BE MONITORING TO

10:58:09 MAKE SURE WHO WE GIVE THESE CONTRACTS TO THAT WHAT WE'RE

10:58:15 PROPOSING, WHAT WE'RE ASKING WILL BE ON THOSE JOB SITES?

10:58:21 >>GREGORY HART: GREGORY HART SPEAKING ONCE AGAIN.

10:58:23 EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.

10:58:26 MONITORING INVOLVES SEVERAL STEPS.

10:58:27 ONE OF WHICH IS FOR EACH PAY APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE

10:58:33 PRIME, IT IS ACCOMPANIED BY A PAYMENT FORM THAT LISTS ALL





10:58:39 SUBS THAT ARE UTILIZED, AND THAT IS AUDITED AND VALIDATED.

10:58:44 ONE OF THE OTHER STEPS IS THAT THE PRIME CONTRACTOR MUST

10:58:48 ENGAGE OUR AUTOMATED CONTRACT COMPLIANCE PAYMENT SYSTEM,

10:58:56 WHEREBY THEY ENTER INTO THAT -- THE PAYMENT THEY RECEIVED

10:59:00 FROM THE CITY.

10:59:01 AND THEN THE SYSTEM WILL NOTIFY ALL THE SUBS THAT THAT PRIME

10:59:04 HAS RECEIVED A PAYMENT AND EACH OF THE SUBS MUST CONFIRM

10:59:08 RECEIPT OF THEIR PAYMENT AS IT RELATES TO THAT WHICH WAS

10:59:11 APPROVED AND PAID TO THE PRIME.

10:59:13 AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER STEPS THAT INCLUDE AN

10:59:19 AFFIDAVIT FROM THE SUBS, A COPY OF THEIR SUBCONTRACT OR

10:59:25 LETTER OF INTENT.

10:59:26 SO IN SUMMARY, THERE ARE MULTIPLE STEPS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN

10:59:29 THE MONITORING AND COMPLIANCE OF THE COMMITTED PARTICIPATION

10:59:34 BETWEEN THE PRIME AND THE SUB.

10:59:36 I HOPE THAT HELPS SOMEWHAT.

10:59:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M TALKING ABOUT SITE.

10:59:45 MAKING SURE IF WE HAVE A PROJECT GOING ON, WE HAVE SOMEBODY

10:59:48 GO TO THE SITES AND MAKE SURE WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE DOING

10:59:51 THEY ARE DOING.

10:59:51 THAT IS THE PREMISE OF THE WHOLE THING.

10:59:54 >>GREGORY HART: AT PRESENT, AND I'LL LET MR. BAIRD OR ANYONE

11:00:00 ELSE FROM THE DEPARTMENT ALSO COMMENT.

11:00:04 AT PRESENT, WE DO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE USER DEPARTMENT'S

11:00:09 CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR ON-SITE TO VALIDATE WHO IS ON-SITE,





11:00:14 AT WHAT PHASE OF THE PROJECT AND WHICH ONE OF THOSE ON-SITE

11:00:18 SUBCONTRACTORS IS A REQUIRED CITY CERTIFIED FIRM AS

11:00:24 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

11:00:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:00:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM

11:00:34 COUNCIL MEMBERS?

11:00:34 I HEAR NONE.

11:00:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU PULLED THAT ITEM.

11:00:40 SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 8-13 AND

11:00:45 WE CAN DO IT ALL AS ONE, SIR?

11:00:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR, SO MOVED, 8-13.

11:00:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND?

11:00:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:00:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

11:00:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

11:00:57 MIRANDA.

11:00:58 ROLL-CALL VOTE.

11:00:58 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

11:01:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:01:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:01:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:01:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:01:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:01:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:01:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.





11:01:16 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:01:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:01:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:01:22 NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE FINANCE, WHICH IS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:01:27 DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR 14-19?

11:01:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:01:30 MOVE ITEMS 14 THROUGH 19.

11:01:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:01:33 CITRO.

11:01:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.

11:01:37 ROLL-CALL VOTE.

11:01:38 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

11:01:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:01:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:01:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:01:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:01:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:01:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:01:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:01:54 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:01:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:02:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:02:01 NEXT UP WE HAVE BUILDING, ZONING, AND PRESERVATION

11:02:03 COMMITTEE, ITEMS 20 THROUGH 25.

11:02:07 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.





11:02:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MR. CHAIR.

11:02:11 I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 20 THROUGH 25, PLEASE.

11:02:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:02:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

11:02:17 MIRANDA.

11:02:18 ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE?

11:02:19 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

11:02:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:02:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:02:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:02:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:02:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:02:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:02:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:02:35 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:02:40 NEXT UP IS THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, HOWEVER, COUNCIL

11:02:43 MEMBER DINGFELDER PULLED ITEM 27 FOR DISCUSSION.

11:02:48 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER?

11:02:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:02:51 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:02:53 ITEM 27 IS $149,000 CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN

11:02:59 CONNECTION WITH DITCH REHABILITATION BY THE STORMWATER

11:03:04 DEPARTMENT.

11:03:04 SAME QUESTION TO MR. HART.





11:03:10 ABOUT THE EBO PERCENTAGES, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY

11:03:15 PERCENTAGES, BLACK BUSINESS PERCENTAGES FOR THIS TYPE OF

11:03:19 WORK.

11:03:20 MR. HART COMMUNICATED BACK TO ME YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE

11:03:25 AND PRE-PROMPTLY AND PROFESSIONALLY AND SAID THAT THIS

11:03:31 PARTICULAR CONTRACT, THE CONTRACTOR WAS NOT EXPECTED TO

11:03:35 PROVIDE MUCH IN THE WAY OF EBO PERCENTAGE, BUT THEY WERE

11:03:41 DOING 1%.

11:03:44 THEY HAD 1% FOR TREE REMOVAL.

11:03:46 I JUST THOUGHT 1% IS PRETTY INADEQUATE.

11:03:49 SO THAT'S MY QUESTION TO MR. HART.

11:03:55 >>GREGORY HART: GREGORY HART SPEAKING.

11:03:56 EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY OFFICE.

11:03:58 I ALSO INDICATED THAT THE 1% REPRESENTED, IF NEEDED, A TREE

11:04:09 REMOVAL STEP, BUT THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE SITE AND

11:04:15 WHETHER OR NOT THE SITE WHERE THE WORK AND RESTORATION WAS

11:04:23 TO BE DONE REQUIRED ANY NAVIGATION OF TREES IN THE SITE

11:04:29 PATH.

11:04:29 THE 1% REPRESENTED THE MAXIMUM HISTORICAL COST ASSOCIATED

11:04:39 WITH ANY KIND OF UNFORESEEN OBSTACLES SUCH AS TREES IN THE

11:04:46 PATH OF THE SITE WORK.

11:04:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR?

11:04:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. HART, HE DOES

11:05:00 A GREAT JOB AND I APPRECIATE HIM AS WELL AS I DO ALL STAFF.

11:05:04 I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ITEM 27.





11:05:06 I THINK 1% IS TOTALLY INADEQUATE.

11:05:08 THIS IS FOR DITCH CLEARING, DITCH REHABILITATION.

11:05:11 IT INVOLVES CLEARING OUT THE DITCH.

11:05:14 I READ THE SUMMARY.

11:05:16 IT'S CLEARING OUT THE DITCH.

11:05:18 REMOVING TREES AND OBSTACLES, THEN SODDING, PUTTING DOWN SOD

11:05:28 OR SEED AND THAT SORT OF THING AND THEN REHABILITATING THE

11:05:32 DITCH.

11:05:33 I FEEL LIKE THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT IF SOMEBODY TOOK

11:05:37 THE EFFORT, IF A CONTRACTOR REALLY TOOK THE EFFORT AND

11:05:40 REALLY WANTED TO GET ON BOARD WITH OUR EBO PROGRAM, THAT

11:05:44 THEY COULD FIND SUBS THAT COULD DO THIS TYPE OF WORK, SOME

11:05:47 PORTION OF THIS TYPE OF WORK.

11:05:50 WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY IS SPENDING AND WE

11:05:52 NEED TO SPREAD IT AROUND TO ALL PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

11:05:56 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE ADMINISTRATION, I WILL NOT BE

11:06:00 SUPPORTING ITEM 27.

11:06:01 THANK YOU.

11:06:01 >>GREGORY HART: MR. CHAIRMAN?

11:06:02 THIS IS GREGORY HART ONCE AGAIN.

11:06:07 IF I MIGHT CLARIFY, UNLESS I'M INCORRECT, THIS ITEM IS NOT

11:06:13 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RESTORATION OR DITCH WORK.

11:06:19 THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY FOR AN ENGINEER TO PROVIDE THE

11:06:26 SCHEMATICS AND THE DESIGN NECESSARY FOR THE PROJECT TO THEN

11:06:30 BE BID OUT TO A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO PERFORM THE WORK.





11:06:35 SO THIS IS NOT -- I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. DINGFELDER HAS

11:06:40 STATED, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS BEING CONFUSED WITH THE ACTUAL

11:06:45 CONSTRUCTION VERSUS THIS ITEM WHICH IS HIRING AN ENGINEER

11:06:49 DESIGN FIRM TO DO THE SCHEMATICS NECESSARY FOR THE

11:06:53 CONTRACTOR TO GO ABOUT DOING THE CONSTRUCTION ONCE THAT IS

11:06:57 BID.

11:07:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY ONLY COMMENT BACK, MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD

11:07:03 BE I STAND CORRECTED.

11:07:04 I APPRECIATE THAT.

11:07:06 BUT EVEN SO, IF THEY ARE AN ENGINEERING FIRM, THEN THEY ARE

11:07:10 GOING TO NEED SURVEYORS, THEY ARE GOING TO NEED OTHER PEOPLE

11:07:14 TO ASSIST.

11:07:14 THEY CAN HIRE SUBCONTRACTORS, SUBCONTRACT ENGINEERING FIRMS.

11:07:21 I STAND BY MY OBJECTIONS REGARDLESS OF THE FIELDS THAT WE'RE

11:07:25 TALKING ABOUT.

11:07:26 THANK YOU.

11:07:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:07:29 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

11:07:31 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:07:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE TO -- MR. DINGFELDER.

11:07:44 WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, I'M THINKING DITCH DIGGING.

11:07:47 MR. HART NOW SAYS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS.

11:07:52 WELL, I GET THAT SAME QUESTION ASKED TO ME ALL THE TIME, HOW

11:07:56 COME MINORITIES AREN'T GETTING A CHANCE TO GET BIDS AS

11:07:58 ENGINEERS OR ARCHITECTS ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.





11:08:03 SAME THING OVER AND OVER.

11:08:05 I THINK WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT AS WELL, START PROMOTING

11:08:08 THAT AS WELL.

11:08:09 I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH MR. DINGFELDER AND I WILL NOT BE

11:08:13 SUPPORTING THIS, TOO.

11:08:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:08:19 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:08:22 I'M ON THE SAME PAGE.

11:08:24 THE COMMUNITY IS GIVING US AN EARFUL, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY

11:08:28 HAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY REACHED OUT TO FOR PROBABLY DECADES.

11:08:34 AND THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME THAT WE HAVE EQUITY IN

11:08:37 CONTRACTS, I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING HARD TO REACH

11:08:41 OUT.

11:08:42 BUT DESPITE ALL THAT, THE COMMUNITY STILL IS VERY UPSET

11:08:45 ABOUT THE LOW PERCENTAGES, AND THEY FEEL LIKE WE ALL SHOULD

11:08:48 DO MORE TO MAKE SURE THAT MINORITY IN PARTICULAR,

11:08:52 BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES QUALIFY THAT THEY HAVE THE CORRECT

11:08:57 CERTIFICATES AND INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING, AND THAT WE

11:08:59 ACTIVELY REACH OUT TO THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY BID AND HELP

11:09:02 THEM WIN CONTRACTS.

11:09:05 LOOKING AT THE MINORITY PERCENTAGES IS ONE THING, BUT IF YOU

11:09:08 LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN OUR

11:09:12 COMMUNITY, THE PERCENTAGE OF BUSINESS DOESN'T ADD UP TO THAT

11:09:16 EITHER.

11:09:16 ANYWAY, I'M ON THE SAME PAGE OF MY TWO COLLEAGUES.





11:09:19 THANK YOU.

11:09:21 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, THIS IS VIERA.

11:09:23 VIERA, IF I MAY.

11:09:25 YEAH, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF CONCERN HERE AMONG COUNCIL

11:09:29 MEMBERS.

11:09:29 AND MY QUESTION IS, CAN THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED FOR TWO WEEKS

11:09:34 OR A MONTH TO GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION TIME TO POTENTIALLY

11:09:39 REMEDY THIS ISSUE OR SHOW OTHER PROPOSALS THAT CAN REMEDY

11:09:45 CONCERNS?

11:09:46 I'D HATE TO HAVE A MESSAGE SENT WITH OBJECTIONS LIKE THIS ON

11:09:49 THIS ITEM.

11:09:51 JUST MY SENTIMENT PERSONALLY.

11:09:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:09:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO

11:09:58 SUGGEST THAT AS WELL, SO I'M GLAD WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

11:10:01 MR. VIERA, THIS IS YOUR DEPARTMENT, SO MAYBE YOU CAN PULL IT

11:10:04 AND CONTINUE IT.

11:10:06 I THINK THEY USUALLY LIKE TO HAVE A MONTH BECAUSE OTHERWISE

11:10:09 IT JUST COMES RIGHT AROUND AND BITES THEM.

11:10:12 I WOULD SUPPORT THAT, MR. VIERA.

11:10:14 THANK YOU.

11:10:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:10:15 SO HAVING SAID THAT, LET'S -- WE'LL DO A SEPARATE VOTE ON

11:10:19 ITEM 27 OF CONTINUANCE, SHOULD THAT BE THE CASE.

11:10:22 AND WE'LL MOVE ITEMS 26, 28, AND 29.





11:10:26 CAN WE GET A MOTION, COUNCILMAN VIERA?

11:10:29 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED, SIR.

11:10:31 26, 28, 29.

11:10:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.

11:10:34 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

11:10:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:10:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

11:10:37 MIRANDA.

11:10:38 ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

11:10:39 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

11:10:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:10:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:10:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:10:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:10:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:10:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:10:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:10:55 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:10:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:10:59 AND REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 27 AS A SEPARATE VOTE, I'M LOOKING

11:11:03 AT THE CALENDAR.

11:11:04 WE HAVE AN OCTOBER 15th REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

11:11:11 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK

11:11:14 BECAUSE WE HAD A SIMILAR ISSUE COME UP.

11:11:17 I WANT TO MAKE SURE BY CONTINUING THIS, THIS DOESN'T APPEAR





11:11:20 TO BE ANYTHING REMARKABLE OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GO NOW.

11:11:23 OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I JUST WANTED TO BE DOUBLE

11:11:26 CHECK THAT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE PROCEEDING AGAIN.

11:11:29 JUST OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

11:11:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD THINK IT WOULD GO TO THE

11:11:36 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE FOR THAT OCTOBER 15 AND THEN

11:11:40 QUESTIONS GET ANSWERED IN THE MEANTIME.

11:11:43 MR. BENNETT OR ANYBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, ANY COMMENT

11:11:46 OR QUESTION ON THAT FOR ITEM NUMBER 27, CONTINUING IT?

11:11:51 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

11:11:52 I WOULD DEFER THAT QUESTION TO MS. JEAN DUNCAN OR MR. BAIRD,

11:11:56 WHO IS ON THE LINE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, I UNDERSTAND THAT

11:12:02 MR. HART GAVE A RESPONSE, VERY FOCUSED ON THIS ONE ITEM.

11:12:06 BUT I KNOW THAT IN THE SIMILAR SPACE, THERE HAS BEEN ROUTINE

11:12:13 REPORTS ABOUT -- PIPES PROGRAM.

11:12:16 AGAIN, FROM A SENSE OF URGENCY AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE

11:12:19 COMMUNITY, I WOULD DEFER THAT TO MS. DUNCAN AND MR. BAIRD.

11:12:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BAIRD OR MS. DUNCAN, IF YOU'RE ON

11:12:27 THE LINE AND WISH TO ANSWER.

11:12:31 >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF

11:12:33 INFRASTRUCTURE.

11:12:33 THIS IS A DITCH REHABILITATION EFFORT.

11:12:42 SO IT WOULD BE JUST LAYING THE MAINTENANCE AND

11:12:46 REHABILITATION OF STORMWATER DITCHES -- DELAYING THE

11:12:51 MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION OF STORMWATER DITCHES BY A





11:12:53 MONTH.

11:12:54 IT'S NOTHING EXTRAORDINARY.

11:12:55 MAYBE DELAY OUR RESPONSIVENESS AND SERVICE LEVEL.

11:13:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:13:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THIS WAS AN ITEM

11:13:12 THAT WAS ADVERTISED TO BID OR HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT?

11:13:18 IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A GROUP THAT SOLELY

11:13:22 BIDS ON THIS.

11:13:23 WAS THIS A PUBLIC ADVERTISED ITEM FOR COMPANIES TO BID ON?

11:13:26 I DON'T KNOW.

11:13:30 >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS BRAD BAIRD AGAIN.

11:13:32 THIS WAS NOT A BID ITEM.

11:13:36 IT'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES --

11:13:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I GATHERED.

11:13:40 THANK YOU.

11:13:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:13:44 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM, ITEM 27 TO THE

11:13:47 OCTOBER 15 MEETING?

11:13:48 COUNCILMAN VIERA?

11:13:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SO MOVED, YES, SIR.

11:13:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

11:13:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:13:54 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

11:13:56 ROLL-CALL VOTE.

11:13:58 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?





11:14:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:14:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:14:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:14:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:14:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:14:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:14:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:14:12 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:14:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

11:14:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:14:18 WE HAVE NOW ARRIVED AT OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.

11:14:22 ITEMS 30 AND 31, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THESE TWO ITEMS?

11:14:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:14:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO OPEN FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:14:29 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

11:14:33 >> SECOND.

11:14:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, I

11:14:36 BELIEVE.

11:14:36 NO OBJECTION.

11:14:40 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE HAVE NOW OPENED ITEMS

11:14:44 30 AND 31.

11:14:46 ITEM NUMBER 30.

11:14:51 >>JULIE HARDY: THIS IS JULIE HARDY.

11:14:54 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS ORDINANCE,

11:14:57 WHICH ALLOWS A PERSON REQUESTING A HEARING TO CONTEST A





11:15:03 PARKING TICKET TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE FORM OF

11:15:06 IDENTIFICATION TO SCHEDULE THE HEARING.

11:15:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

11:15:10 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 30?

11:15:13 SEEING THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING -- WHO IS THAT?

11:15:19 COUNCILMAN GUDES?

11:15:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST WANT TO SAY I WANT TO THANK THE

11:15:25 ADMINISTRATION, ESPECIALLY MS. GRIMES, FOR REALLY WORKING ON

11:15:27 THIS.

11:15:27 THERE WERE SOME ISSUES THAT SEEMED UNFAIR TO OUR CITIZENS.

11:15:32 I'M GLAD THEY WERE ABLE TO COME TO SOME RESOLUTIONS ON THIS

11:15:35 AND NOW HAVE A POSITIVE ORDINANCE GOING TO BE PUT FOR VOTE.

11:15:39 THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION.

11:15:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:15:40 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

11:15:43 BEING THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, MR. SHELBY, DO WE HAVE

11:15:46 PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY OF THIS OR ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR

11:15:50 NO?

11:15:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WE ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE

11:15:53 INQUIRE OF THE CLERK IF THERE'S ANYTHING -- IF THERE'S

11:15:57 ANYBODY WHO IS WAITING ONLINE OR SOMEBODY AT THE TAMPA

11:16:01 CONVENTION CENTER.

11:16:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO RECEIVE

11:16:03 AND FILE ON ITEM NUMBER 30?

11:16:05 >>THE CLERK: THERE IS NOTHING TO RECEIVE AND FILE ON THIS





11:16:08 PARTICULAR ITEM.

11:16:08 AND NO PUBLIC COMMENT REQUESTS.

11:16:11 AND THERE'S NO ONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER AT THIS

11:16:13 TIME.

11:16:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:16:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:16:16 GET A MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM NUMBER 30 PUBLIC HEARING?

11:16:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM MR. MIRANDA.

11:16:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:16:30 ANY OBJECTION?

11:16:31 UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

11:16:32 THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

11:16:34 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TAKING ITEM

11:16:37 NUMBER 30.

11:16:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:16:39 ITEM NUMBER 30, FILE NUMBER E2020-8, CHAPTER 15, MOVE AN

11:16:45 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF

11:16:48 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO CONTESTING PARKING

11:16:51 TICKETS; MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF

11:16:53 ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15 (PARKING); AMENDING ARTICLE II,

11:16:59 REGULATIONS; PERMITS; PENALTIES, DIVISION 4, PENALTIES AND

11:17:03 ENFORCEMENT, SECTION 15-121, ISSUANCE OF PARKING TICKETS;

11:17:07 PAYMENT OR CONTESTING TICKETS; PENALTIES FOR PARKING

11:17:11 VIOLATIONS; REQUESTING A PARKING DIVISION REVIEW; REPEALING





11:17:15 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH;

11:17:19 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:17:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:17:23 CITRO.

11:17:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

11:17:25 MIRANDA.

11:17:26 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:17:27 ROLL-CALL VOTE.

11:17:28 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

11:17:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:17:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:17:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:17:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:17:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:17:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:17:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:17:48 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:17:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:17:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:17:54 ITEM NUMBER 31, WHICH IS ALREADY OPEN.

11:17:57 ITEM NUMBER 31.

11:18:01 >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK,

11:18:04 PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:18:06 COUNCIL, IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP?

11:18:10 OKAY.





11:18:10 THANK YOU.

11:18:11 I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEM 31.

11:18:13 THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.

11:18:15 THIS IS A PART OF THE JULY 2019 AMENDMENT CYCLE.

11:18:19 THE APPLICANT ON THIS AMENDMENT -- PRESSMAN.

11:18:24 IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:18:26 SO THIS REQUEST IS AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 27 TO THE ZONING

11:18:31 CODE AS IT RELATES TO THE BILLBOARD SIGNS.

11:18:33 THIS IS SECTION 27-289.15 OF THE CODE.

11:18:39 JUST AS A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THIS REQUEST, I'D LIKE TO JUST

11:18:44 REVIEW WITH YOU A COUPLE OF ITEMS.

11:18:46 ONE IS THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

11:18:49 THERE IS A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE.

11:18:53 IT'S BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE TWO LARGER SIGN COMPANIES.

11:18:56 CLEAR CHANNEL IS ONE OF THEM.

11:18:57 THAT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT DETAILS REQUIREMENTS FOR

11:19:01 REPLACEMENT, RELOCATION, AND ALSO -- INVENTORY REQUIREMENTS.

11:19:08 IT ALSO STATES THAT THE CITY SHALL ADOPT REGULATIONS.

11:19:12 THOSE REGULATIONS WERE ADOPTED.

11:19:15 IT ALSO ANTICIPATED FUTURE CONVERSIONS TO ELECTRONIC SIGNS

11:19:23 AND THAT'S THE BILLBOARD SIGNAGE CONVERTING TO ELECTRONIC

11:19:26 SIGNS.

11:19:28 AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS COMPLETED WITHIN THE REVISION OF THE

11:19:33 CODE.

11:19:35 AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE





11:19:37 BILLBOARD SIGN CODE UNDER THAT SECTION OF THE CODE.

11:19:40 I'VE ALSO INCLUDED FOR YOU TWO ROADWAY ABBREVIATIONS

11:19:47 REFERENCED IN THE CODE SECTION.

11:19:48 FAP AND FAI ROADWAY DESIGNATIONS WITHIN THE CODE TO FOLLOW.

11:19:54 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:19:55 WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE PROVIDED A BREAKDOWN OF THE REVISIONS

11:20:01 PROPOSED IN THE THREE SECTIONS.

11:20:04 I ALSO SENT OUT A DOCUMENT THAT WAS A SUPPORTING DOCUMENT.

11:20:08 PDF DOCUMENT.

11:20:09 IT CONTAINED THE ENTIRE SECTION OF THE CODE FOR THE

11:20:11 BILLBOARD SIGN, AND THIS PRESENTATION WILL ONLY REVIEW JUST

11:20:16 THE SECTIONS FOR THE CHANGE PROPOSED.

11:20:19 THE FIRST AREA FOR CHANGE IS THE DESIGNATED ROADWAYS.

11:20:22 I'LL JUST REVIEW THE REQUEST PROPOSED FROM THE APPLICANT.

11:20:29 WHEREVER THERE IS AN UNDERLINE, THAT'S LANGUAGE THAT WOULD

11:20:31 BE ADDED TO THE CODE.

11:20:33 ANY STRIKE-THROUGH IS LANGUAGE THAT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE

11:20:36 CODE.

11:20:36 SO THE FIRST CHANGE REQUESTED IS TO ADD MacDILL AVENUE

11:20:41 AS THE EASTERN BOUNDARY ON THE HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE ROADWAY.

11:20:45 SO IN HILLSBOROUGH, THE BOUNDARY ON THE WEST WOULD BE

11:20:47 VETERANS EXPRESSWAY, THE BOUNDARY ON THE EAST WOULD BE

11:20:50 MacDILL AVENUE INSTEAD OF DALE MABRY.

11:20:53 THE NEXT CHANGE IS TO ADD DALE MABRY HIGHWAY FROM

11:20:56 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD, JUST NOTING ALSO





11:21:01 THAT WITHIN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY, ONLY EXISTING LOCATIONS

11:21:07 ARE ELIGIBLE FOR UPGRADE TO ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS AND THEY

11:21:09 ARE SUBJECT TO PROVISIONS IN THE CODE.

11:21:12 THE NEXT ADDITION IS THE GANDY BOULEVARD ROADWAY, AND THAT'S

11:21:17 FROM DALE MABRY HIGHWAY TO WESTSHORE.

11:21:22 ELECTRONIC SIGN FACES ALSO SHALL BE ELEVATED AND ORIENTED TO

11:21:25 THE TOP DECK OF THE GANDY EXTENSION AND IT SHALL BE SHIELDED

11:21:31 FROM SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.

11:21:33 LIMITED TO UTILIZING ONLY LOCATIONS PERMITTED AND INSTALLED

11:21:37 PRIOR TO THE INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE GANDY

11:21:39 EXTENSION.

11:21:40 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:21:43 THE NEXT CHANGE PROPOSED IS IN SUBSECTION B-2.

11:21:48 THIS CONTAINS SOME CLEANUP ITEMS.

11:21:50 IT ALSO REFERS TO CHANGES PROPOSED REGARDING EXISTING

11:21:54 LOCATIONS.

11:21:56 YOU'LL SEE THAT WE REMOVED COMMERCIAL OUT OF WESTSHORE

11:21:59 OVERLAY DISTRICT, AND THEN WE TOOK OUT THE REFERENCE, THE

11:22:03 GENERAL REFERENCE TO CHAPTER 27 CODE OF ORDINANCES AND MADE

11:22:06 IT MORE SPECIFIC TO THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY BY INCLUDING

11:22:09 SECTION 27-238.

11:22:13 AND THEN THE REQUEST IS TO ADD RECOGNITION FOR THE EXISTING

11:22:17 LOCATIONS WHICH WERE JUST REFERENCED IN THE PRIOR SLIDE.

11:22:21 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:22:23 THE NEXT SECTION FOR CHANGE IS SUBSECTION C-4, AND THIS IS





11:22:29 REGARDING THE NUMBER OF SIGN FACES.

11:22:31 SO IF YOU HAVE A STANDARD BILLBOARD POLE, AND IF YOU HAVE A

11:22:35 SIGN THAT'S ON EITHER SIDE OF THE POLE, EACH SIGN, EACH SIDE

11:22:40 OF THAT SIGN IS A SIGN FACE.

11:22:42 SO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS UNDER SECTION A, THE MAXIMUM

11:22:48 ALLOWED IS CHANGED FROM 5% TO 10%.

11:22:52 AND THAT IS NOT TO EXCEED 16 ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD SIGN

11:22:56 FACES.

11:22:56 THAT'S ON FAP AND FAI ROADS.

11:22:59 THE NEXT CHANGE PROPOSED IS TO CHANGE FROM 5 TO 10 PERCENT.

11:23:05 AND NOT TO EXCEED 6.

11:23:07 THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 6 ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD SIGN FACES ON

11:23:12 NON-FAP AND NON-FAI DESIGNATED ROADWAYS.

11:23:16 THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:23:18 WHAT I'VE DONE IS PROVIDED A MAP JUST TO SHOW THE ROADWAY

11:23:24 DESIGNATIONS, THE ROADWAY THAT'S LISTED IN THE CODE.

11:23:27 SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE AERIAL, AND THE GREEN LINE

11:23:33 IS HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.

11:23:35 SO THIS IDENTIFIES THE HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE SECTION.

11:23:38 THE AREAS IN YELLOW ARE THE ZONING DISTRICT.

11:23:40 THE PINK -- THE PINK STRIPE IS ACTUALLY THE WESTSHORE

11:23:45 OVERLAY DISTRICT.

11:23:47 SO YOU'LL SEE THAT HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE RUNS THAT WESTERN

11:23:51 BOUNDARY IS THE EXPRESSWAY.

11:23:53 THE EASTERN BOUNDARY IS MacDILL VERSUS DALE MABRY





11:23:57 BRINGING THAT EASTERN BOUNDARY.

11:23:59 AND THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

11:24:01 THE NEXT CORRIDOR TO SHOW YOU IS THE DALE MABRY.

11:24:06 SO DALE MABRY, THE GREEN LINE IS DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, AND

11:24:10 AGAIN, THE YELLOW IS THE ZONING DISTRICT.

11:24:15 WITHIN THAT AREA, THE PINK STRIPE IS THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY

11:24:18 AND THE DALE MABRY AGAIN RUNS FROM HILLSBOROUGH TO KENNEDY.

11:24:22 AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:24:24 THE LAST SECTION IS GANDY BOULEVARD.

11:24:29 THE GREEN LINE IS GANDY BOULEVARD IN THE CENTER OF THE MAP.

11:24:33 THE YELLOW IS THE ZONING DISTRICT.

11:24:35 AND YOU'LL SEE THE WESTERN BOUNDARY IS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD,

11:24:39 AND THEN THE EASTERN BOUNDARY IS SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.

11:24:42 THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:24:44 CITY STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO

11:24:50 THE REQUEST.

11:24:52 THERE'S ONE REVIEW I FORGOT TO ADD INTO THE SLIDE, AND I

11:24:56 WOULD LIKE TO MENTION.

11:24:57 THIS WAS ROUTED TO F.D.O.T. AND TO THEA AND RECEIVED NO

11:25:01 OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST.

11:25:03 THIS WAS HEARD BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT A PUBLIC

11:25:06 HEARING JANUARY 13th.

11:25:07 IT WAS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE

11:25:11 PLAN.

11:25:11 THIS WAS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 23rd.





11:25:14 AND IT WAS FOUND CONSISTENT.

11:25:16 AND IT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY, COUNCIL, FOR SECOND READING AND

11:25:20 ADOPTION.

11:25:20 I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT

11:25:25 IS ALSO AVAILABLE.

11:25:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

11:25:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:25:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:25:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

11:25:36 EARLIER THIS MORNING, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS WAS CRITICIZING US

11:25:42 FOR ADOPTING THESE AMENDMENTS TO THE BILLBOARD ORDINANCE.

11:25:45 I WAS A BIG PART OF THE ORIGINAL BILLBOARD SETTLEMENT, AS

11:25:50 WAS MS. SAUL-SENA BACK IN THE DAY.

11:25:53 IT WAS A GOOD SETTLEMENT.

11:25:55 IF LEGAL IS AVAILABLE AND WANTS TO CHIME IN, BUT BASICALLY

11:26:00 THE ORIGINAL SETTLEMENT WAS TO HAVE A TRADE-OFF WITH THE

11:26:04 BILLBOARD -- WHERE THE BILLBOARD INDUSTRY WOULD AGREE TO

11:26:07 REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRADITIONAL SIGNS, SIGN FACES, IN

11:26:11 RETURN -- AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT RATIO, IN RETURN

11:26:18 FOR PUTTING UP A DIGITAL SIGN FACE.

11:26:21 AT THE TIME, MS. SAUL-SENA AND THE REST OF COUNCIL AGREED.

11:26:26 PROBABLY UNANIMOUSLY, THAT THAT WAS A GOOD TRADE-OFF AND

11:26:30 OVERALL WE WERE REDUCING BILLBOARD AND VISUAL CLUTTER IN OUR

11:26:36 COMMUNITY, AND WE WERE TRADING OFF DIGITAL, BUT WE MADE SURE

11:26:41 WHEN THEY PUT IN THE LARGE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS, I'M NOT





11:26:44 TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS, I'M TALKING

11:26:46 ABOUT THE LARGE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS, THAT WE LIMITED THEM TO

11:26:50 DO IT IN COMMERCIAL AREAS.

11:26:53 THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SEE THAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS IT

11:26:57 TWEAKS UP SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS, EXPANDING THEM

11:27:02 SLIGHTLY, BUT WE'VE MADE SURE THAT THEY DON'T IMPOSE ON THE

11:27:07 RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

11:27:08 THAT'S WHY I'M COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING IT.

11:27:10 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:27:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:27:12 ANYBODY ELSE?

11:27:14 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, THIS IS CARLSON.

11:27:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:27:18 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

11:27:18 YEAH, TO THE SAME COMMENT, YOU KNOW, MUTUAL FRIEND OF MANY

11:27:22 OF US SPOKE OUT THIS MORNING ABOUT THIS.

11:27:25 I'M NOT SOMEBODY WHO REGULARLY WOULD PROMOTE BILLBOARDS, AND

11:27:32 MAYBE NOT LIGHTED BILLBOARDS, ALTHOUGH I HAVE USED THEM AND

11:27:37 I'M IN THE MARKETING INDUSTRY WHERE WE USE THEM.

11:27:39 BUT THE TRADE-OFF AS I REMEMBER IT WAS 10:1.

11:27:43 SO THERE ARE A LOT OF BILLBOARDS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T

11:27:46 LIKE THAT ARE COMING DOWN IN EXCHANGE FOR THESE.

11:27:48 I THINK THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS WORKED OUT YEARS AGO

11:27:53 WAS A GOOD ONE, AND THIS JUST TAKES IT FURTHER.

11:27:55 THERE'S A LOT OF VISUAL CLUTTER THAT WILL BE MOVED AS A





11:27:59 RESULT OF THIS.

11:28:00 AND SO IT ENDS UP BEING A GOOD THING FOR LOTS OF

11:28:03 COMMUNITIES.

11:28:04 THANK YOU.

11:28:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:28:05 ANYBODY ELSE?

11:28:06 ALL RIGHT.

11:28:10 WE HAVE THE PETITIONER ON THE LINE, MR. PRESSMAN, I BELIEVE

11:28:13 IT IS.

11:28:13 ARE YOU THERE, SIR?

11:28:21 PETITIONER?

11:28:22 >>THE CLERK: MR. PRESSMAN, YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF.

11:28:30 >>TODD PRESSMAN: OKAY.

11:28:31 I FOUND IT.

11:28:32 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

11:28:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

11:28:34 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

11:28:35 >>TODD PRESSMAN: TODD PRESSMAN, 2nd AVENUE SOUTH,

11:28:40 ST. PETERSBURG, FLORIDA.

11:28:41 MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR

11:28:44 ATTENTION TODAY IN MOVING THIS TO THE FINAL PHASE.

11:28:47 AS YOU HAVE HEARD ALL THE REVIEWING AGENCIES AND PERSONS

11:28:50 HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT.

11:28:53 AS MR. DINGFELDER REFERRED, JUST FOR CLEAR CHANNEL ALONE,

11:28:57 148 FACES OR 53,000 SQUARE FEET OF PAPER BILLBOARDS HAVE





11:29:02 BEEN REMOVED FROM THE CITY UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

11:29:05 AND THAT WILL CONTINUE AT THE SAME RATE.

11:29:08 THERE'S NO CHANGE OF ANY RULES OR REGULATIONS OR

11:29:10 RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF PLACEMENT OF BILLBOARDS.

11:29:12 THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN EFFECT WITH THE CITY FOR 10, 12

11:29:16 YEARS.

11:29:16 WE HAVE PERSONALLY NEVER RECEIVED A SINGLE COMPLAINT UP

11:29:20 UNTIL THIS HEARING OR CONCERN.

11:29:23 IT'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP FOR NONPROFITS, PARTNERSHIP

11:29:27 WITH THE CITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FBI, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, U.S.

11:29:33 MARSHAL, AND FOR SMALL BUSINESS.

11:29:36 FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, SMALL BUSINESS CAN GET INTO THE

11:29:41 MARKET FOR A DAY, HALF DAY, HOUR AT SPECIFIC LOCATIONS, AND

11:29:45 THAT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FOR SMALL BUSINESS.

11:29:48 SO AS LaCHONE REALLY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB PRESENTING

11:29:53 THIS TO YOU, THIS IS A SMALL INCREASE IN ROADWAYS.

11:29:55 YOU'LL STILL HAVE THE TAKE-DOWNS.

11:29:58 IN THE WESTSHORE AREA, THIS WOULD ONLY BE A CONVERSION OF

11:30:02 EXISTING SIGNS.

11:30:03 IT WOULD NOT BE NEW SIGNS.

11:30:04 IT WOULD JUST BE A CONVERSION WITH A RESTRICTED NUMBER.

11:30:08 WITH THAT, WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S GOOD WORK AND WE

11:30:11 APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT ON FIRST READING.

11:30:13 THANK YOU.

11:30:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.





11:30:17 DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA

11:30:22 CONVENTION CENTER FOR THIS ITEM?

11:30:23 >>THE CLERK: YES, SIR.

11:30:24 WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER;

11:30:27 HOWEVER, I DO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE REGISTERED TO SPEAK AND ONE

11:30:29 RECORDING.

11:30:31 I WILL MOVE ON TO MR. THOMAS O'NEILL.

11:30:34 I BELIEVE HE IS AN APPLICANT AS WELL.

11:30:36 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, MR. O'NEILL, YOU CAN UNMUTE.

11:30:39 >> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

11:30:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

11:30:41 GO AHEAD.

11:30:43 >> YES.

11:30:44 THOMAS O'NEILL, CLEAR CHANNEL.

11:30:47 AS MR. PRESSMAN STATED, I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS

11:30:51 EXCELLENT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY STAFF.

11:30:55 I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH HIS COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE

11:30:57 COUNCIL COMMENTS THAT I THINK THIS WAS A PRAGMATIC APPROACH

11:31:00 TO THE SETTLEMENT AND HAS DONE NOTHING BUT REDUCE THE

11:31:07 OVERALL FOOTPRINT FOR BILLBOARDS IN THE AREA AND THE DIGITAL

11:31:09 TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN A GREAT IMPROVEMENT AND WE CERTAINLY

11:31:13 APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION TO ADD THIS SMALL TWEAK TO THE

11:31:17 LOCATIONS AND TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO MORE DIGITAL

11:31:21 CONVERSIONS.

11:31:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.





11:31:26 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

11:31:27 >>THE CLERK: I'LL MOVE ON TO MARILYN HEALY.

11:31:31 SHE ALSO HAS HER CLIENT, RUSTY MCCLELLAND WITH HER.

11:31:35 >> HI, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCILMAN, MARILYN

11:31:39 HEALY, REPRESENTING OUTFRONT MEDIA, AND I HAVE RUSTY

11:31:42 McCLELLAND, OUR GENERAL REGIONAL MANAGER WITH ME TODAY.

11:31:46 WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

11:31:49 IT HAS REALLY RESULTED IN ALLOWING THE BILLBOARD COMPANIES

11:31:53 TO TAKE DOWN A LOT OF THE STATIC BOARDS OUT OF NEIGHBORHOOD

11:31:58 AREAS, AND BASICALLY MOBILIZE THEM IN INDUSTRIAL AND

11:32:03 COMMERCIAL APPROPRIATE AREAS.

11:32:05 WITH THAT, WE HAVE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES OVER THE PAST 11

11:32:10 YEARS SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS.

11:32:13 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMITMENT, THOUGH.

11:32:16 ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS -- I BELIEVE IT WAS A PRESIDENT,

11:32:19 ACTUALLY, OF NORTH BON AIR, JIM MOSBAUGH, WAS WORRIED THAT

11:32:26 ONE OF THE BOARDS THAT HE COULD SEE -- I DON'T KNOW -- ABOUT

11:32:30 A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM HIS HOME WOULD IMPACT HIM IF

11:32:35 OUTFRONT CONVERTED THAT TO DIGITAL.

11:32:38 WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH HIM THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

11:32:42 THAT BOARD IS 49715A.

11:32:48 THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS JUST SO IT'S ON THE RECORD.

11:32:51 WE WILL ADJUST OUR INVENTORY WITH THE CITY STAFF AND THE

11:32:57 CITY ATTORNEY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMMITMENT IS

11:33:01 FOLLOWED.





11:33:03 WITH THAT, WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL, AND WE'RE HERE TO

11:33:06 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

11:33:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:33:11 YOU HAD SOMEBODY ELSE WITH YOU THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK

11:33:13 SEPARATELY OR JUST TO BE NOTED?

11:33:16 >> RUSTY IS HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS

11:33:18 ABOUT OUR INVENTORY.

11:33:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:33:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:33:21 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

11:33:23 >>THE CLERK: OKAY.

11:33:24 THE ONLY OTHER PERSON WE HAVE SIGNED UP WAS CHRIS VELA, BUT

11:33:28 HE'S NO LONGER LOGGED IN.

11:33:29 AND THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

11:33:32 I HAVE ONE RECORDING TO BE PLAYED.

11:33:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

11:33:37 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:33:39 I'M ANN KULIG, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE,

11:33:43 3109 WEST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, REGARDING

11:33:48 ITEM 31 ON YOUR SEPTEMBER 3rd AGENDA.

11:33:51 WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY CODE

11:33:55 REGARDING DIGITAL BILLBOARDS.

11:33:57 IN PARTICULAR, WE DO NOT WANT DIGITAL BILLBOARDS ALLOWED

11:34:01 ALONG DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.

11:34:04 TEN YEARS AGO WHEN CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A CODE CHANGE TO





11:34:07 ALLOW DIGITAL BILLBOARDS IN TAMPA, IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T

11:34:11 HAPPEN EASILY.

11:34:12 I PARTICIPATED IN MANY MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS OVER MULTIPLE

11:34:16 YEARS WITH CITY STAFF, NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES, AND

11:34:20 REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BILLBOARD COMPANIES, INCLUDING

11:34:23 CLEAR CHANNEL, TO CRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT GAVE RIGHTS TO THE

11:34:26 BILLBOARD COMPANIES BUT ALSO HAD PROTECTIONS FOR

11:34:29 NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS.

11:34:30 IT INVOLVED A LOT OF COMPROMISE, BUT THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE

11:34:34 ULTIMATELY SUPPORTED THE ORDINANCE THEN BECAUSE DIGITAL

11:34:37 BILLBOARDS IN WESTSHORE WERE LIMITED TO LOCATIONS ADJACENT

11:34:40 TO THE INTERSTATE AND VETERANS EXPRESSWAY WHERE THEY ARE

11:34:44 EASILY DIVERTED FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEY

11:34:47 PROHIBITED THEM ON OTHER STREETS IN WESTSHORE.

11:34:51 THE CHANGE BEING PROPOSED TODAY WILL NOT ONLY ADD TO VISUAL

11:34:55 BLIGHT ALONG DALE MABRY AND OTHER CORRIDORS IN THE CITY, BUT

11:34:58 IN WESTSHORE'S CASE, WILL IMPACT RESIDENTS OF CARVER CITY,

11:35:02 OF NORTH BON AIR, OAKFORD PARK, MANY OF WHOM LIVE WITHIN A

11:35:07 BLOCK OF DALE MABRY HIGHWAY THAT COULD HAVE DIGITAL

11:35:10 BILLBOARDS NOW SHINING INTO THEIR HOMES IF THIS CHANGE IS

11:35:13 APPROVED.

11:35:13 I ASK SIMPLY THAT YOU STICK WITH THE COMPROMISE REACHED A

11:35:17 DECADE AGO AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THIS

11:35:20 CHANGE TO THE DIGITAL BILLBOARD ORDINANCE.

11:35:23 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.





11:35:26 >>THE CLERK: THAT WOULD CONCLUDE --

11:35:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:35:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:35:32 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

11:35:40 I HEAR NONE.

11:35:42 DO WE HAVE A MOTION -- WELL, DO WE HAVE ANY RESPONSE OR

11:35:45 REBUTTAL FROM THE PETITIONER HERE?

11:35:49 >>TODD PRESSMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:35:50 I WOULD JUST SAY AGAIN IN THE WESTSHORE AREA, WE HAD QUITE A

11:35:53 FEW DISCUSSIONS, BUT THE END RESULT IS THAT THERE WILL BE NO

11:35:59 NEW BOARDS IN THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.

11:36:01 IT WOULD JUST BE A CONVERSION OF THE -- THANK YOU.

11:36:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:36:04 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

11:36:07 I HEAR NONE.

11:36:08 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?

11:36:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:36:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:36:15 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE.

11:36:17 ANY OBJECTION?

11:36:18 ALL RIGHT.

11:36:19 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

11:36:21 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 31, THE

11:36:25 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?

11:36:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.





11:36:27 FILE NUMBER E2020-8, CH 15, A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING

11:36:37 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF

11:36:41 TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO BILLBOARDS, MAKING REVISIONS TO

11:36:45 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 27 (ZONING AND

11:36:48 LAND DEVELOPMENT); AMENDING SECTION 27-289.15, BILLBOARD

11:36:55 SIGNS; REPEALING ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

11:37:00 CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN

11:37:05 EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:37:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:37:07 DO WE HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE?

11:37:12 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA, SECOND.

11:37:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:37:16 DO WE HAVE A ROLL-CALL VOTE ON THIS NOW?

11:37:19 >>THE CLERK: YES.

11:37:20 VIERA?

11:37:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:37:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:37:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:37:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:37:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:37:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:37:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:37:35 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:37:41 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:37:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.





11:37:42 ALL RIGHT.

11:37:43 WE MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

11:37:46 ITEM NUMBER 32, $22 MILLION ITEM.

11:37:50 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

11:37:59 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.

11:37:59 THIS IS DENNIS ROGERO.

11:38:01 GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

11:38:02 YOU HAVE THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, OF COURSE, AND YOU HAVE MY

11:38:04 COVER MEMO.

11:38:05 IN SUMMARY, THIS TAKES ADVANTAGE OF FIRM MARKET CONDITIONS

11:38:09 TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

11:38:10 REFUND THE EXISTING COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX OR CIP DEBT AND

11:38:14 RECOGNIZE SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.

11:38:17 WE ANTICIPATE THE SAVINGS WILL BE OVER 10% OF NET PRESENT

11:38:21 VALUE, GIVING US NEW MONEY OF OVER $2.5 MILLION.

11:38:24 THIS NEW MONEY WOULD BE WELCOME.

11:38:27 AS YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE'RE FACING MILLIONS IN REVENUE AND

11:38:30 EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS.

11:38:32 WE'D LIKE TO USE THIS NEW MONEY FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES.

11:38:36 IN SUM, THE DEBT TIME FRAME WILL REMAIN THE SAME AND THE

11:38:40 DEBT PAYMENTS WILL REMAIN THE SAME ALSO.

11:38:43 THIS WILL BE A COMPETITIVE SALE AND WE'LL AWARD IT TO THE

11:38:46 BIDDER THAT GIVES US THE BEST TRUE INTEREST COST.

11:38:51 I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

11:38:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.





11:38:54 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

11:38:57 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

11:38:58 I HEAR NO QUESTIONS --

11:39:03 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR?

11:39:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO THANK HIM VERY MUCH FOR

11:39:07 THE -- THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE AND THE TIME TO DO IT,

11:39:12 THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THIS.

11:39:13 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:39:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

11:39:21 >>BILL CARLSON: CARLSON.

11:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:39:24 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ROGERO, WITH THIS RESTRUCTURING AND ALSO

11:39:28 THE ONE THAT WE DID A FEW MONTHS AGO, ANY CONCERNS ABOUT

11:39:32 KIND OF PUSHING LIABILITIES OUT TO THE FUTURE OR FOR

11:39:36 INCREASING LONG-TERM DEBT?

11:39:38 I KNOW THERE IS A SHORT-TERM CASH FLOW BENEFIT, BUT ANY

11:39:42 LONG-TERM CONCERNS?

11:39:45 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

11:39:48 UNLIKE THE RESTRUCTURING WE DID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THIS

11:39:52 WILL MAINTAIN OUR DEBT PROFILE.

11:39:54 AGAIN, THE DEBT WILL END WHEN IT WAS GOING TO END AND THE

11:39:57 PAYMENT WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

11:39:58 WE'RE SIMPLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT'S CHEAPER TO BORROW

11:40:03 MONEY.

11:40:03 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.





11:40:04 JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

11:40:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

11:40:10 AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M SURE THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE

11:40:13 UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S ONE MORE BITE AT THIS COMMUNITY

11:40:16 INVESTMENT TAX, AND IT ENDS IN 2027, SO WE BETTER BE FRUGAL

11:40:22 AGAIN WITH OUR MONEY BECAUSE THE MONIES THAT WE'VE BEEN

11:40:26 USING TO DO THIS MAINLY IS FOR BRINGING IN THE FUNDS TO BUY

11:40:31 NEW VEHICLES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WE USE A LOT OF FIRE

11:40:35 ENGINES AND AMBULANCES START GOING UP IN COST.

11:40:38 SO WE BETTER START THINKING LONG TERM.

11:40:40 AFTER 2027, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

11:40:42 THAT'S ALL.

11:40:42 JUST A CAUTION THING.

11:40:43 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:40:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:40:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:40:47 IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WHO WOULD LIKE

11:40:49 TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION?

11:40:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:40:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:40:54 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

11:40:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.

11:40:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:40:59 ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

11:41:00 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?





11:41:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:41:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:41:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:41:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:41:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:41:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:41:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:41:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:41:20 [AUDIO DECLINED IN QUALITY]

11:41:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:41:28 LOOKING AT THE AGENDA HERE, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 33.

11:41:32 ITEM NUMBER 33.

11:41:33 [POOR AUDIO]

11:41:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:41:42 [POOR AUDIO]

11:41:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY TO THIS COUNCIL -- [INAUDIBLE]

11:41:53 -- ONE THING I LEARNED THROUGH MY TENURE AS CITY COUNCIL IS

11:42:01 THAT MISTAKES HAVE AND WILL BE MADE.

11:42:07 WHAT YOU DO AFTER A MISTAKE IS MADE IS WHAT MATTERS.

11:42:10 LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, CAME BEFORE YOU WITH MY SINCEREST

11:42:14 APOLOGIES.

11:42:16 HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE.

11:42:18 HEARD PEOPLE APOLOGIZE.

11:42:19 IN OUR CITY MADE NATIONAL NEWS.

11:42:26 STEP FORWARD ACKNOWLEDGING OUR PAST AND CREATING A MORE -- I





11:42:33 WOULD LIKE TO PUT BEFORE YOU IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR

11:42:44 RESOLUTION TO BE APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL.

11:42:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

11:42:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT, SIR.

11:43:00 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT, IF I MAY.

11:43:06 I FIRST -- YOU KNOW, WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES, OUR

11:43:11 FRIEND AND OUR COLLEAGUE FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN PUSHING THIS

11:43:13 ISSUE FORWARD.

11:43:14 YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN GUDES MADE REFERENCE TO AN INCIDENT

11:43:17 THAT HAPPENED SOME TIME AGO.

11:43:20 I THANK HIM FOR HIS HUMILITY AND FOR HIS JUST HONESTY ON

11:43:27 THIS ISSUE.

11:43:27 I ALSO, THE TAMPA JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTERS AND FEDERATION,

11:43:30 WE HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUE IN THE LAW, JOE PROBASCO, THERE

11:43:36 WAS GARY GOULD, RABBI JASON ROSENBERG AND OTHERS JUST WANTED

11:43:41 TO THANK EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THIS ISSUE, BUT ESPECIALLY

11:43:44 THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR THE PATH YOU'VE TAKEN.

11:43:49 I'VE ALWAYS COUNTED YOU AS A FRIEND.

11:43:51 I REMEMBER WHEN WE MET IN 2000 -- WHAT -- 16 RUNNING AGAINST

11:43:55 ONE ANOTHER.

11:43:56 I'M ALWAYS VERY SENTIMENTAL WITH YOU.

11:43:58 CAN'T HELP IT.

11:43:59 I REALLY WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THIS.

11:44:01 THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT MANY OF US ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

11:44:05 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT AMERICAN HISTORY, AND BY





11:44:08 THAT, I MEAN ALL OF OUR HISTORY, INCLUDING THE IGNORED PARTS

11:44:11 OF OUR HISTORY.

11:44:13 THE GOOD THAT INSPIRES US TO DO BETTER, THE BAD THAT SHOULD

11:44:17 ALSO INSPIRE US TO DO BETTER.

11:44:19 HISTORY CAN SERVE A LOT OF PURPOSES.

11:44:21 IT CAN SERVE TO GUIDE, AND IT CAN SERVE TO INSPIRE, BUT

11:44:26 ESPECIALLY -- ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HISTORY WITH A

11:44:30 LINK OR CONNECTION TO THE TRAGEDIES THAT WE STILL SEE TODAY,

11:44:35 THEN THAT HISTORY REALLY SERVES A LARGER PURPOSE.

11:44:37 HISTORY, WHEN PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD CAN REALLY HELP US BUILD

11:44:42 BRIDGES TODAY.

11:44:44 I BELIEVE IN THAT PASSIONATELY BUT NO MORE SUBJECT IN

11:44:49 AMERICAN HISTORY IS MORE RIPE TODAY THAN IGNORED BLACK

11:44:53 HISTORY, INCLUDING IN TAMPA AND THAT CONNECTION TO THE

11:44:57 TRAGEDIES AND THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT WE SEE TODAY.

11:45:01 A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK, AND I'VE HAD THIS QUESTION POSED, WHY

11:45:05 ARE YOU ALL DOING THIS?

11:45:06 WHY DO YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS?

11:45:09 A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY.

11:45:12 OTHERS SAY, WELL, HISTORY IS HISTORY.

11:45:14 LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.

11:45:17 I'VE ALWAYS RESPECTFULLY DISAGREED WITH BOTH.

11:45:19 I THINK TELLING THE TRUTH SHOULDN'T RESULT IN ANGER AS SEEN.

11:45:24 IT SHOULD RESULT IN A CHANCE FOR REDEMPTION, AND YOU CAN'T

11:45:27 LOOK AT INJUSTICE OF TODAY WITHOUT LOOKING AT HOW THAT





11:45:30 HISTORY OF INJUSTICE IS ROOTED IN UGLY, SHAMEFUL, AND

11:45:35 IGNORED -- I EMPHASIZE IGNORED HISTORY.

11:45:38 WE LIVE IN VERY, VERY HISTORICAL TIMES.

11:45:42 TIMES WHEN BIAS AND PREJUDICE IS OUTSIDE OF THE CLOSET, SO

11:45:45 TO SPEAK, BEING YELLED OUT AT QUITE OFTEN IN WAYS THAT I,

11:45:50 MYSELF -- I SPEAK FOR MYSELF -- HAVE NEVER SEEN IT PUBLICLY.

11:45:54 THINGS ARE ACCEPTED THAT JUST TEN YEARS WOULD BE

11:45:59 UNACCEPTABLE AND IMMORAL.

11:46:01 IT MAKES ME FRUSTRATED WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT MAKES

11:46:04 AMERICA GREAT.

11:46:06 HISTORICALLY, IT'S BEEN OUR CAPACITY TO GROW CLOSER TO

11:46:10 TAKING THAT ORIGINAL IDEA OF LIBERTY AND EXPANDING IT TO

11:46:13 MORE PEOPLE.

11:46:13 WE'VE DONE IT FOR ALMOST 240, 250 YEARS.

11:46:17 WE RECOGNIZE HURT AND BUILD ON WHAT WE CAN DO FOR

11:46:21 REDEMPTION.

11:46:22 I'M GLAD THAT FAITH PLAYS SUCH A BIG ROLE IN THIS.

11:46:25 I'M A CATHOLIC.

11:46:26 I'M A CHRISTIAN.

11:46:27 I BELIEVE IN FORGIVENESS AND REDEMPTION AND ALSO IN

11:46:29 PENITENCE.

11:46:31 HISTORY I ALWAYS SAY HAS BEEN CONNECTED -- [GARBLED AUDIO]

11:46:35 -- MINNEAPOLIS WITH MR. FLOYD.

11:46:39 WE HAVE CHARLOTTESVILLE, TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE, ORLANDO

11:46:43 PULSE, MOTHER EMANUEL AME, ET CETERA, GENERATIONS AGO WE HAD





11:46:49 INCIDENTS IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, SELMA.

11:46:53 ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

11:46:54 ALL OF THE INCIDENTS IN HISTORY ARE CONNECTED TO TODAY, AND

11:46:58 THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE IN TAMPA.

11:47:00 A CITY WITH GIANTS IN NAMES LIKE FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ, ROBERT

11:47:04 SAUNDERS, DELANO STEWART, ARTHENIA JOYNER AND SO MANY

11:47:08 OTHERS, BUT WE HAVE A PAINFUL PATH THAT'S CONNECTED TO

11:47:10 TRAGEDIES TODAY.

11:47:11 HECK, YOU ALL CHECK OUT A MAN NAMED ROBERT JOHNSON.

11:47:17 JANUARY 30, 1934.

11:47:19 HE WAS LYNCHED HERE IN TAMPA.

11:47:20 THE LAST KNOWN RACIAL LYNCHING IN JIM CROW ERA IN TAMPA.

11:47:25 PART OF THE INCIDENT WITH HIM OCCURRED NEAR CITY HALL.

11:47:29 THAT IS THE TRANSFER OF HIM FROM ONE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO

11:47:32 ANOTHER.

11:47:32 THEN HE WAS ULTIMATELY TAKEN ON HARRISON STREET IN DOWNTOWN

11:47:37 TAMPA BY A LYNCH MOB, PUT NEAR THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER OFF

11:47:41 SLIGH AND ULTIMATELY LYNCHED THERE.

11:47:46 A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T KNOW ABOUT ROBERT JOHNSON.

11:47:48 WE GET TO KNOW ABOUT, NUMBER ONE, WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR PAST

11:47:51 AND HOW IT'S CONNECTED TO TODAY.

11:47:53 I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

11:47:54 I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT IT.

11:47:56 AGAIN, I THANK MY FRIEND, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR HIS

11:48:00 LEADERSHIP AND HIS HONESTY AND HIS HUMILITY AND HIS SERVICE





11:48:05 HEART.

11:48:05 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:48:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

11:48:08 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE I GO ON TO OTHER

11:48:11 COUNCIL MEMBERS.

11:48:11 LOOKING AT THE WORDING OF THIS ITEM, IT SAYS TAMPA'S

11:48:15 HISTORY.

11:48:15 I LOOK BACK AT TAMPA'S HISTORY, AGAIN, I LOVE TAMPA'S

11:48:18 HISTORY AND I MENTION IT BUT LOOK AT HERE IN THE CITY.

11:48:23 MOUNT ZION CEMETERY, SOMETHING THAT PAUL GUZZO WITH THE

11:48:26 TAMPA BAY TIMES UNCOVERED ESSENTIALLY WITH THE WORK OF OTHER

11:48:30 PEOPLE.

11:48:30 AND PUT IT OUT THERE IN THE MEDIA AND PEOPLE NOW KNOW AND

11:48:34 LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING DONE RIGHT HERE IN ROBLES PARK.

11:48:37 THE INJUSTICES THERE ON A CEMETERY.

11:48:41 IT'S NOT THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH HATRED, DISCRIMINATION AND

11:48:44 RACISM WHILE THESE PEOPLE WERE ALIVE, EVEN IN DEATH, THEY

11:48:48 WERE BEING TRAMPLED ON IN MANY WAYS.

11:48:50 YOU LOOK AT 1967 WITH MARTIN CHAMBERS, AN INCIDENT THAT

11:48:54 SPARKED RIOTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ON CENTRAL AVENUE.

11:48:56 YOU LOOK AT 1987 WITH MELVIN HAIR, WITH THE BANNING OF THE

11:49:01 CHOKEHOLD AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE MURDER OF

11:49:04 ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE SEE AS AN INNOCENT MAN.

11:49:07 I KNOW RACISM IS DISCUSSING THIS DISCRIMINATION BY THE COLOR

11:49:19 OF THEIR SKIN OR THEIR RELIGION OR WHO THEY LOVE.





11:49:22 WE SEE IT WITH PEOPLE IN THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

11:49:26 WE SEE IT IN PEOPLE BY THE GOD THEY WORSHIP, THE RELIGION

11:49:31 THEY PRACTICE.

11:49:31 WE HAVE TO REMEMBER A LATIN PHRASE.

11:49:35 MEMENTO MORI, WHICH MEANS REMEMBER THAT WE ARE GOING TO DIE.

11:49:40 IF WE THINK ABOUT THIS, AND NOT TO GET TOO PHILOSOPHICAL, AS

11:49:43 I TEND TO RAMBLE A LOT, YOU KNOW, WHY DO WE WASTE SO MUCH

11:49:48 TIME IN DIVIDING OURSELVES HISTORICALLY?

11:49:52 DISCUSSING THE HISTORY OF SLAVERY IN THIS COUNTRY, THE

11:49:57 HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATION, WHETHER IT BE SOMEONE WHO IS

11:49:59 JEWISH OR SOMEONE WHO IS AN ITALIAN IMMIGRANT OR IRISH

11:50:03 IMMIGRANT.

11:50:03 I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

11:50:04 I SEE US ALL AS AMERICANS.

11:50:06 I SEE US ALL AS TAMPANIANS AND TAMPEÑOS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO

11:50:15 SAY IT.

11:50:16 I AGREE AND I SUPPORT THIS BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

11:50:16 SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHY ARE YOU STIRRING THE POT?

11:50:20 WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING SOMETHING THAT COULD BE

11:50:22 CONTROVERSIAL?

11:50:22 WHY NOW?

11:50:24 WHY NOT?

11:50:25 WE AVOIDED THE CONVERSATION FOR SO LONG.

11:50:28 THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK, WELL, AFTER LYNDON JOHNSON AND

11:50:30 CIVIL RIGHTS AND VOTING RIGHTS AND MARTIN LUTHER KING AND





11:50:33 ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, RACISM DIED BACK THEN.

11:50:38 YOU KNOW, IN 1968, AFTER ALL THE CIVIL UNREST, IT DIED.

11:50:38 IT DIDN'T DIE BACK THEN.

11:50:40 SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS ELECTED

11:50:43 PRESIDENT.

11:50:44 NOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

11:50:46 THINGS STILL DON'T CHANGE.

11:50:48 I HEAR AND I SEE RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION, AND I HEAR

11:50:52 COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE, AND I HEAR ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS

11:50:55 THAT, FIRST, I THOUGHT, WELL IT'S GOING TO DIE OFF WITH MY

11:50:59 GRANDMOTHER'S GENERATION.

11:51:01 NOW MY GRANDMOTHER IS DEAD.

11:51:02 THAT GENERATION IS NOW IN THEIR 90s.

11:51:04 THEY ARE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD OR MORE.

11:51:06 IT'S STILL ALIVE.

11:51:07 WE SEE IT.

11:51:08 WE SEE IT IN THE DIVISION WHEN WE SEE NEWS STORIES, WHEN WE

11:51:12 SEE SOCIAL MEDIA.

11:51:13 IT'S ON AND ON AND ON.

11:51:15 I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, WELL WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO WITH IT?

11:51:19 MY FAMILY CAME HERE IN 1961.

11:51:22 MY DAD CAME HERE IN 1981.

11:51:25 WE HAVEN'T BEEN HERE HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

11:51:27 IT DOESN'T MATTER.

11:51:28 AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE AMERICANS.





11:51:30 AT THE END OF THE DAY WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

11:51:32 AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOT JUST EQUALITY,

11:51:35 BUT EQUITY ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

11:51:37 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU LOVE, WHAT RELIGION YOU PRACTICE,

11:51:40 THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

11:51:43 AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO DIE.

11:51:45 IT DOESN'T MATTER YOUR TITLE, YOUR SOCIAL STATUS, HOW MUCH

11:51:49 MONEY YOU HAVE.

11:51:51 IF YOU GET SICK, IF YOU GET CANCER, IF YOU GET WHATEVER IT

11:51:54 IS, WE'RE GOING TO DIE.

11:51:55 THAT ALONE SHOULD MAKE US UNDERSTAND THAT WE REALLY ARE

11:51:58 EQUAL, BUT WE DON'T ACT LIKE IT.

11:52:00 WE DON'T ACT AND WE DON'T TREAT EACH OTHER WITH THAT KIND OF

11:52:03 EQUITY AND EQUALITY.

11:52:04 I'M DONE RAMBLING.

11:52:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:52:06 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

11:52:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, DINGFELDER.

11:52:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD.

11:52:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:52:15 I APPRECIATE THE GREAT WORDS BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, BY OUR

11:52:22 CHAIRMAN, AND BY MR. GUDES -- COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR BRINGING

11:52:26 THIS FORWARD.

11:52:27 I APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY WHICH

11:52:31 I'M A PART OF.





11:52:33 ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE HAVE

11:52:38 RESPONDED AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT -- YOU KNOW, WHAT -- WHAT

11:52:43 MORE CAN COUNCIL DO?

11:52:44 I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THESE MORE OUTRAGEOUS EVENTS,

11:52:49 THANK GOODNESS, ARE IN OUR DISTANT HISTORY.

11:52:51 SOME ISSUES ARE IN OUR CURRENT HISTORY AND I THINK WE'RE

11:52:56 WORKING, YOU KNOW, CLOSELY WITH OUR -- WITH OUR MAYOR AND

11:53:00 OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT NO

11:53:03 ATROCITIES HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THE WAY THEY'VE

11:53:07 HAPPENED ELSEWHERE.

11:53:09 BUT IN REGARD TO CITY COUNCIL -- AND THIS IS ONE REASON I

11:53:12 BRING IT UP PRETTY MUCH EVERY WEEK IN OUR MEETINGS -- IS I

11:53:16 BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE CAN AFFIRMATIVELY DO IS MAKE SURE THAT

11:53:20 -- THAT OUR EBO, OUR EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM, OUR

11:53:24 WMBE PROGRAM, AND SPECIFICALLY OUR BLACK BUSINESS PROGRAM

11:53:29 THRIVES.

11:53:30 AND I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE

11:53:33 COOPERATION WE'VE BEEN GETTING IN THAT REGARD, I THINK

11:53:36 THERE'S A RENEWED EMPHASIS ON THAT.

11:53:38 BUT I THINK IT'S -- IT'S IMPORTANT THAT COUNCIL REMAIN

11:53:41 VIGILANT.

11:53:42 AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS OR MORE ON

11:53:45 THAT SUBJECT BECAUSE I THINK MR. VIERA SAID IT ABOUT ALL

11:53:50 BOATS RISING.

11:53:51 AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT ONE OF THE KEYS TO





11:53:57 EQUALITY IS ECONOMIC EQUALITY.

11:53:59 AND OUR PART -- I BELIEVE OUR PART IS DONE THROUGH THE --

11:54:06 THROUGH THE MINORITY VENDING AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR

11:54:09 MINORITY VENDORS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS.

11:54:14 WE CAN'T BE PASSIVE ABOUT IT.

11:54:15 YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE IT

11:54:18 HAPPENS BECAUSE IT WON'T HAPPEN.

11:54:21 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS BE VERY, VERY ACTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE ON

11:54:23 IT, AND I'M PROUD OF WHERE WE ARE.

11:54:25 WE'RE DOING MUCH BETTER THAN WE WERE A YEAR AGO AND I'M

11:54:28 CONFIDENT OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE'LL BE EVEN DOING

11:54:30 BETTER.

11:54:30 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:54:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

11:54:33 ANYBODY ELSE?

11:54:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR COUNCILMAN GUDES

11:54:40 AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN.

11:54:43 I THINK OPPORTUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO

11:54:46 ALL, AND I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE PARENTS THAT I'VE

11:54:50 HAD, THE GRANDPARENTS THAT I'VE HAD.

11:54:52 REALLY, I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO BE RAISED IN THE TAMPA

11:54:54 HOUSING AUTHORITY WHEN WE HAD KIDS TO PLAY WITH.

11:54:58 YOU HAD DIFFERENT THINGS.

11:54:59 WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT RACISM WAS AT THAT TIME.

11:55:03 IT WASN'T REALLY UNTIL I OPENED MY EYES ONE DAY IN HIGH





11:55:07 SCHOOL AND I LOOKED AROUND AND SAID EVERYBODY HERE IS THE

11:55:09 SAME COLOR, WHERE I COME FROM, THEY WERE ALL MIXED.

11:55:12 AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PREDOMINANTLY HISPANIC, YOU KNOW,

11:55:16 SCHOOL, JEFFERSON AT THAT TIME WAS EUCLID AND HIGHLAND, AND

11:55:21 IT WAS A DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE.

11:55:22 IT WAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF LIFE, AND WE'VE GOTTEN SO SMART

11:55:26 AND SO INTELLIGENT, WE'VE BECOME DUMBER.

11:55:29 I HATE TO SAY IT THAT WAY.

11:55:31 WE RELY ON EVERYTHING THAT'S TECHNICAL.

11:55:33 WE DON'T LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT.

11:55:35 WE DON'T CARE WHAT WE DO IN GENERAL.

11:55:37 SOME OF US DO, AND I'M NOT BLAMING OTHERS.

11:55:39 DON'T GET ME WRONG.

11:55:40 BUT WHEN YOU KEEP DESTROYING THINGS AROUND YOU, WHEN YOU

11:55:44 DON'T REALIZE WHAT A STRAW CAN DO TO THE ENVIRONMENT,

11:55:49 PLASTIC OR A BAG OR DIFFERENT THINGS, STYROFOAM OR OIL INTO

11:55:53 THE SEEPAGE OF THE WATER SYSTEM, EVERYTHING YOU LOOK AT, AND

11:55:57 IT -- IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER AND HARDER FOR THE FUTURE

11:56:01 GENERATIONS TO COME AFTER US IF WE DON'T START REMEDYING

11:56:05 SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS TODAY.

11:56:06 AND I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING THE RIGHT STEPS.

11:56:10 YOU CAN'T GET OFF RUNNING BECAUSE YOU'LL STUMBLE.

11:56:13 AND THEY ARE DOING THINGS AT A GOOD PACE WHERE WE'RE GOING

11:56:15 TO HAVE A BETTER AREA AND WHEN TAMPA LEADS, THE REST OF THE

11:56:19 AREA FOLLOWS.





11:56:20 I KNOW THEY DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT, BUT THAT'S A FACT.

11:56:23 I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES AGAIN.

11:56:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:56:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:56:27 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?

11:56:30 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR?

11:56:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:56:33 >>BILL CARLSON: CARLSON.

11:56:35 JUST -- I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND

11:56:37 THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO

11:56:40 FOCUS ON.

11:56:42 AND WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

11:56:47 BUT I WANT EVERYBODY WHO IS WATCHING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT

11:56:49 THIS IS NOT JUST THE DISTANT PAST.

11:56:52 JUST FIVE YEARS AGO, THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CONDEMNED

11:56:54 THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR CIVIL RIGHTS ABUSES REGARDING BIKING

11:56:57 WHILE BLACK THAT THE TIMES WROTE EXTENSIVELY ABOUT.

11:57:03 I CAN GIVE A LOT OF OTHER EXAMPLES.

11:57:05 BUT THINK ABOUT THE FIGHT OVER THE JACKSON HOUSE.

11:57:07 THINK ABOUT THE FIGHT OVER THE BRO BOWL.

11:57:11 THINK ABOUT THE FIGHT OVER THE FAIR OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER

11:57:13 AND ON AND ON AND ON, INCLUDING THE MINORITY BUSINESS

11:57:16 PARTICIPATION.

11:57:17 THERE -- THERE ARE SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE

11:57:23 ADDRESSED, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM EVERY WEEK, AND





11:57:25 WE APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY HELPING US TO ADDRESS THESE TO

11:57:28 TRY TO LOOK FORWARD AND, AS SOMEONE SAID, MAKE TAMPA AN

11:57:32 EXAMPLE THAT OTHER CITIES CAN FOLLOW.

11:57:33 THANK YOU.

11:57:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:57:36 ANYBODY ELSE?

11:57:37 ANOTHER COMMENT THAT I WANT TO ADD QUICKLY, BECAUSE I SAW AN

11:57:43 ARTICLE FROM THE TIMES, AND THERE WAS A QUOTE IN THERE FROM

11:57:47 YVETTE LEWIS, THE HEAD OF THE NAACP.

11:57:50 IT SAYS HOW ABOUT OUR LEADERS SAY THEY ARE SORRY THAT PAST

11:57:53 LEADERS LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN CEMETERIES WERE DESTROYED?

11:57:58 IF I'M CORRECT, SOME OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WHOEVER

11:58:00 WAS MAYOR AT THE TIME IN THAT ERA, I KNOW WHERE SOME OF THEM

11:58:05 ARE BURIED.

11:58:06 I CAN TELL YOU THIS, NO ONE IS GOING TO PAVE OVER WHERE THEY

11:58:09 ARE BURIED.

11:58:10 I DON'T WANT TO SAY I APOLOGIZE ON THEIR BEHALF, BUT I'D

11:58:14 RATHER CALL THEM OUT AND SAY SHAME ON THEM FOR ALLOWING

11:58:18 SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.

11:58:19 THIS IS A CEMETERY.

11:58:21 AT THAT POINT, YOU ASK YOURSELF, IS NOTHING SACRED AT THIS

11:58:24 POINT?

11:58:25 OBVIOUSLY NOT BECAUSE HERE WE ARE, ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS

11:58:28 LATER, 80, 90 YEARS LATER, UNCOVERING AND REDISCOVERING THIS

11:58:33 AND TRYING TO RIGHT THE WRONGS OF HISTORY AND THE LACK OF





11:58:39 LEADERSHIP OF THOSE THAT WERE IN ELECTED OFFICE BEFORE US.

11:58:45 I'M GLAD THAT THINGS ARE BEING DONE TO CHANGE THAT AND

11:58:49 CORRECT THAT AND RIGHT THOSE WRONGS.

11:58:51 EVEN IF IT REALLY IS RIGHTING A WRONG, BECAUSE WHAT CAN YOU

11:58:54 DO AT THIS POINT WITH THIS GROSS, YOU KNOW, NEGLIGENCE AND

11:58:58 LACK OF RESPECT?

11:58:59 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.

11:59:01 ANYBODY ELSE?

11:59:01 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THIS TIME?

11:59:03 IF NOT, I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN GUDES WHO WAS THE MAKER

11:59:06 OF THIS MOTION.

11:59:07 COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME SINCE

11:59:18 THIS WAS YOUR MOTION, SIR?

11:59:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THIS

11:59:24 COUNCIL FOR THE HEARTFELT WORDS.

11:59:27 THERE'S ONE GENTLEMAN I HAVE TO THANK, MR. JOE PROBASCO.

11:59:33 HIM AND SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MYSELF AND I AGREE

11:59:36 WITH ATTORNEY MR. SHELBY WHO HELPED US CRAFT THIS

11:59:39 RESOLUTION.

11:59:41 IT'S REALLY HEARTFELT.

11:59:42 I GET CHOKED UP WHEN I READ AND LOOK OVER SOME OF THE

11:59:46 PASSAGES IN THE RESOLUTION THAT REALLY STAND OUT, BOLD BUT

11:59:52 FRUITFUL, AND I HOPE WE CAN GET A CONSISTENT VOTE ON THIS

11:59:56 RESOLUTION AND MOVE FORWARD, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:00:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, A FORMAL MOTION TO MOVE THE





12:00:04 RESOLUTION, PLEASE.

12:00:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU DO MAKE THE FORMAL

12:00:07 MOTION FOR THIS RESOLUTION?

12:00:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.

12:00:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND BY CITRO.

12:00:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO PASS YOU THE GAVEL, BUT

12:00:16 YOU HAVE THE SECOND.

12:00:17 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN -- THE SECOND WAS FROM

12:00:24 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:00:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

12:00:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

12:00:27 LET'S GET A ROLL-CALL VOTE ON THIS.

12:00:29 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

12:00:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:00:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:00:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ENTHUSIASTICALLY YES.

12:00:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:00:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

12:00:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:00:47 THANK YOU TO MY COUNCILMEN, MY FRIEND, COUNCILMAN GUDES,

12:00:51 YES.

12:00:53 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?

12:00:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:00:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

12:00:57 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS CARLSON.





12:01:02 IF I COULD SAY ONE MORE THING, I THINK THIS GOES WITHOUT

12:01:05 SAYING, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE TO EVERYBODY THAT

12:01:09 THE POSITION WE'RE IN NOW, ALTHOUGH WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE

12:01:13 EVENTS OF THE PAST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE

12:01:16 CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT NO FUTURE COUNCIL HAS TO APOLOGIZE FOR

12:01:20 ANYTHING WE DID OR DIDN'T DO.

12:01:22 SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO BE WATCHFUL.

12:01:24 I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PERSISTENCE AND DILIGENCE IN

12:01:28 WATCHING OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ABIDE BY THE RIGHT

12:01:31 PRINCIPLES.

12:01:32 THANK YOU.

12:01:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:01:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, SINCE THE MOTION HAS PASSED,

12:01:44 THE PORTION OF THE COMMISSION THAT IS IN THE RESOLUTION,

12:01:49 RATHER ME SPEAK TO THAT NOW OR DURING MOTION TIME?

12:01:54 BECAUSE I THINK THE CHAIRMAN LES MILLER OF THE COUNTY SPOKE

12:01:57 YESTERDAY IN REFERENCE TO WHAT'S GOING ON, AND MAYBE WE CAN

12:02:01 GET SOMETHING ON THE FLOOR TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A JOINT

12:02:03 COMMISSION WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL.

12:02:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT UNTIL NEW BUSINESS SO WE CAN

12:02:08 GET THROUGH THE AGENDA AND GET EVERYTHING ELSE OUT OF THE

12:02:11 WAY AND THEN WE'LL DO ALL THAT AT ONE TIME, IF THAT'S ALL

12:02:14 RIGHT.

12:02:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:02:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.





12:02:17 WE NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER 34.

12:02:20 ITEM NUMBER 34, WE HAVE THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO DISCUSS THE

12:02:24 CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER POSITION.

12:02:25 MR. BENNETT, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, TAKE IT AWAY.

12:02:29 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.

12:02:33 BEFORE I DIVE INTO ITEM NUMBER 34, I JUST WANT TO

12:02:37 CONGRATULATE COUNCIL AND ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR

12:02:40 BRINGING THAT EMOTIONAL BUT EFFECTIVE RESOLUTION FORWARD.

12:02:43 I KNOW MAYOR CASTOR HAS PERSONALLY SPOKEN TO COUNCILMAN

12:02:47 GUDES AND SHE WAS APPRECIATIVE AS WELL AND EMBRACES ALL THE

12:02:51 CONTENT IN THE RESOLUTION.

12:02:52 WITH THAT SAID, I KNOW WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PRESENTED BACK IN

12:02:58 EARLY AUGUST, THE REQUEST TO EXAMINE THE CHIEF DIVERSITY

12:03:03 OFFICER WAS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION,

12:03:05 AND WE EMBRACED THAT MOTION.

12:03:09 WE LOOKED AT IT.

12:03:10 I KNOW I GAVE SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK BASED ON THE FUNCTIONS

12:03:14 THAT A POSITION LIKE THAT WOULD PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY BRING

12:03:18 OUR CITY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, WHICH IS WHY MANY OF US CAME

12:03:21 BACK TO GOVERNMENT TO DO THESE VERY THINGS.

12:03:24 YOU CAN SEE THAT MUCH LIKE I DID THIS MORNING, NOT A

12:03:29 PRESENTATION, BUT A QUICK OVERHEAD, JUST WANT TO BRING THAT

12:03:33 CONVERSATION FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING TO A VISUAL.

12:03:37 AND WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS IN CONVERSATION WITH

12:03:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND HOPEFULLY EMBRACED BY THE REST OF





12:03:45 COUNCIL, WAS THAT IF YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR-CODED

12:03:52 ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, WE COULD CALL IT THE BEGINNING OF A

12:03:57 PILOT GOING INTO THE BUDGET.

12:04:00 HOWEVER, THE CITY WAS REORGANIZED IN FEBRUARY, RIGHT BEFORE

12:04:03 COVID.

12:04:05 AND ONE OF OUR KEY DIRECTORS WAS ELEVATED TO A POSITION OF

12:04:12 ADMINISTRATOR OVER NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, AND

12:04:17 THAT'S MS. OCEA WYNN.

12:04:19 SHE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB FROM A COLLEAGUE'S PERSPECTIVE

12:04:22 OF MINE WITH THIS NEW POSITION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH

12:04:26 INCLUDES PARKS AND REC, CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND OTHER

12:04:31 FUNCTIONS.

12:04:33 AND WE, COINCIDENTALLY, THROUGH THAT HAVE REVAMPED THE

12:04:38 STRATEGIC PLAN GOING INTO THE BUDGET.

12:04:40 WE'VE ADDED ENTERPRISE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS THE

12:04:42 DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HOLDING

12:04:44 OURSELVES AND OUR STAFF ACCOUNTABLE.

12:04:46 AND THE REASON FOR THAT BACKGROUND IS WHEN I SPOKE LAST TIME

12:04:49 TO THIS MOTION, I MENTIONED THREE THINGS.

12:04:54 I THINK THE THINGS THAT WILL TURN THE CORNER FOR THE CITY

12:04:57 COME DOWN TO RECRUITING TO GET OUR STAFF AND THE CITY AS

12:05:01 CLOSELY ALIGNED AS POSSIBLE WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE

12:05:06 IN ALL DEPARTMENTS.

12:05:07 TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADVANCE OUR UNDERSTANDING AND

12:05:12 ACKNOWLEDGE OUR BIASES AND OUR APPROACHES TOWARDS OUR





12:05:15 RELATIONSHIPS, BOTH INWARDLY AND OUTWARDLY TO THE COMMUNITY.

12:05:19 AND THEN LASTLY, THE TOPIC THAT WE BRING UP ALL THE TIME IS

12:05:23 ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH EFFICIENCY, EFFECTIVENESS AND MOST

12:05:27 IMPORTANT, EQUITY.

12:05:28 AND I TALK ABOUT THOSE IN DELIVERABLES, BUT AGAIN, WITHOUT

12:05:31 THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE ORG CHART.

12:05:34 WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS BUILD THE PROGRAM UNDER THE

12:05:36 OVERSIGHT OF MS. OCEA WYNN, WHO IS ON THE LINE AND CAN SPEAK

12:05:40 HERE MOMENTARILY, WHO IS A DIRECT REPORT AUTOMATICALLY TO

12:05:46 THE MAYOR.

12:05:46 WE HAVE THE POSITIONAL AUTHORITY IN PLACE.

12:05:48 AND THEN WE AS A CITY WANT TO SUPPORT HER LEADERSHIP IN

12:05:52 THOSE CATEGORIES THAT I SPOKE OF.

12:05:55 IN THE RECRUITING SPACE, THE MAYOR HAS AUTHORIZED, WHICH IT

12:05:59 IS A CHANGE OR AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, YOU

12:06:03 CAN SEE THE GREENSPACE IS TO BE HIRED DIVERSITY RECRUITER.

12:06:08 WHILE THAT PERSON WILL REPORT TO MR. SWAIN AND WHO

12:06:11 ULTIMATELY REPORTS TO HR, MS. KELLY AUSTIN, THAT PERSON

12:06:15 WOULD BE THE FIRST FORWARD-FACING DIVERSITY RECRUITER TO

12:06:19 BRING QUALIFIED APPLICANTS TOWARDS THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP

12:06:23 CHANGE OUR DIVERSITY MAKEUP IN THE CITY AND SERVE THE CITY,

12:06:29 AS I DISCUSSED BEFORE.

12:06:31 NEXT TO MR. SWAIN IS OUR LEAD TRAINER, MS. KAY HUNTER. SO

12:06:37 SHE WOULD BRING THE TRAINING PROGRAMS.

12:06:40 SHE TOUCHES EVERY EMPLOYEE AS THEY ENTER THE CITY OF TAMPA,





12:06:44 AND WE WOULD BUILD OUR TRAINING PROGRAM AND CONTINUE OUR

12:06:47 TRAINING PROGRAM UNDERNEATH HER LEADERSHIP AND REPORT BACK

12:06:50 TO MS. OCEA WYNN ON THAT.

12:06:52 THEN THE RED BOXES ARE EXAMPLES OF OUR ENTERPRISE

12:06:55 PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT THAT IS UNDERWAY AND IS GOING TO ROLL

12:07:00 UP INTO THE DASH BOARDS THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO YOU ABOUT

12:07:05 WHICH IS CALLED OPEN GOV.

12:07:06 NOT ONLY WILL YOU SEE THE BUDGET ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT

12:07:09 EARLIER IN A MUCH MORE TACTICAL AND TRANSPARENT WAY GOING

12:07:11 FORWARD, BUT YOU WILL ALSO SEE ALL THE OTHER DATA

12:07:15 PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH THE BUDGET

12:07:18 AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

12:07:20 IN THAT CATEGORY, WE HAVE JEAN DUNCAN WHO IS OVERSEEING THE

12:07:26 EFFICIENCY, EFFECTIVENESS, AND EQUITY SECTION AS AN

12:07:29 EXECUTIVE SPONSOR.

12:07:30 AND UNDER HER, SHE HAS AN EQUITY COMPONENT SUBGROUP OR

12:07:34 WORKING GROUP, IF YOU WILL.

12:07:36 MY POINT IS THAT ALL OF THESE TOUCH POINTS IN THE CITY, WE

12:07:40 EVEN HAVE A HUMAN RIGHTS DIVISION UNDER CAROLE POST'S SHOP.

12:07:44 THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT DIVERSITY FROM A

12:07:47 FUNCTIONAL, PRACTICAL, DELIVERABLE, ACCOUNTABLE MANNER, AND

12:07:50 REPORT THIS IN A STANDARDIZED WAY BACK TO MS. OCEA WYNN ON A

12:07:55 MONTHLY BASIS.

12:07:56 AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO EMPLOY THIS MODEL AND USE THE

12:08:00 POSITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE THIS DIVERSITY RECRUITER,





12:08:04 WHICH I HAVE DISCOVERED IN WORKING WITH MS. AUSTIN AS A NEW

12:08:08 HR DIRECTOR IN MR. SWAIN, THIS IS ONE OF OUR WEAK POINTS

12:08:12 THAT WE COULD FILL IMMEDIATELY AS OF OCTOBER 1st WITH THE

12:08:16 APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND WE COULD START RIGHT

12:08:19 AWAY.

12:08:20 IN THE MEANTIME, WE COULD BUILD THIS PROGRAMMATIC ENERGY

12:08:23 UNDER MS. OCEA WYNN AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL IN SIX MONTHS

12:08:28 AND THEN SHOULD WE NEED TO ADVANCE INTO A TRUE POSITION OF A

12:08:31 SEPARATE DIVERSITY -- CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER TO CONTINUE

12:08:35 THAT MOMENTUM, WE WOULD REPORT BACK AT SUCH.

12:08:38 BUT BEFORE I FINISH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND IT OFF TO OCEA

12:08:42 WYNN TO AUGMENT HER COMMENTS AND HER THOUGHTS IN THIS

12:08:45 OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

12:08:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

12:08:49 >>OCEA WYNN: THANKS, CHIEF BENNETT.

12:08:52 GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

12:08:53 THANK YOU FOR -- THIS IS OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF

12:08:57 NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

12:08:58 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT

12:09:03 THE OVERALL PROCESS AND THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE YOU

12:09:08 REGARDING THE CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER.

12:09:11 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO STRESS IS THAT THERE ARE

12:09:16 CERTAIN THINGS THAT AS WE PULLED TOGETHER THIS PROGRAM THAT

12:09:19 WE CANNOT OVERLOOK.

12:09:21 WE CANNOT OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE NOT ONLY A CITY





12:09:28 OF TAMPA CULTURE WITHIN THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE HAVE A CULTURE

12:09:33 INTERNALLY WITH OUR EMPLOYEES.

12:09:36 WE CANNOT OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A FAMILIARITY WITH

12:09:38 THE EMPLOYEES AND THAT BECAUSE OF THAT FAMILIARITY, WE ARE

12:09:46 HEARING SOME OF THE CONCERNS, SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS, OR

12:09:51 SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE.

12:09:56 WITH THAT BEING SAID, WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE YOU, I

12:09:59 THINK WE DO HAVE A GOOD START OF A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN

12:10:05 REALLY PUSH FORWARD TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP A CHIEF DIVERSITY

12:10:10 OFFICER OR THE CHIEF DIVERSITY PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY OF

12:10:15 TAMPA.

12:10:15 SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THIS

12:10:21 LEAD AS WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE TO OVERCOME SOME

12:10:26 OF THOSE LEARNING CURVES THAT WE KNOW WE WILL BE CHALLENGED

12:10:31 WITH, AND SOME OF THOSE LEARNING CURVES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE

12:10:41 -- REGARDING THE CULTURE AND THE EMPLOYEES AND HOW FAMILIAR

12:10:45 THEY ARE WITH THIS GROUP AS WELL AS WE ARE WITH THEM.

12:10:49 SO THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE FOR NOW, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY

12:10:56 ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, SHOULD YOU HAVE THEM.

12:10:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

12:10:59 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THIS

12:11:02 TIME?

12:11:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.

12:11:06 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

12:11:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.





12:11:11 I'VE TALKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THIS AND THEY HAVE

12:11:14 GIVEN ME A COMMITMENT IN REFERENCE TO HOW WE CAN PROCEED ON

12:11:18 A COMMON GROUND, REPORT BACK IN SIX MONTHS AS TO HOW THE

12:11:25 PROGRAM IS WORKING, HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ALL

12:11:28 DEPARTMENTS -- TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE BEST PEOPLE

12:11:33 HIRED AND GIVING OPPORTUNITIES TO THOSE TO COME IN.

12:11:36 A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE MISSING CHALLENGES WITH HR

12:11:40 DEPARTMENT ABOUT SOME MINORITIES BEING ABLE TO GET HIRED.

12:11:44 I KNOW FIRSTHAND FROM EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH HR IN

12:11:47 REFERENCE TO ETHNICITY.

12:11:49 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL BASES AND GIVE A THOROUGH

12:11:53 REPORT IN MAKING SURE WE HAVE A DIVERSIFIED WORKFORCE.

12:11:59 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY?

12:12:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

12:12:02 YES.

12:12:02 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

12:12:03 LIKE LAST TIME, AGAIN, WANTED TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN GUDES

12:12:06 FOR HIS WORK ON THIS, WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS, WHAT IS THE OLD

12:12:09 SAYING?

12:12:09 A POUND OF PREVENTION IS -- NO, AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS

12:12:13 WORTH A POUND OF CURE.

12:12:14 BUT, ADDITIONALLY, THAT OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS ALSO MORALLY

12:12:18 THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

12:12:19 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AGAIN.

12:12:26 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE PIECE OF FEEDBACK I GOT FROM THE





12:12:31 COMMUNITY WAS THAT IN SOME ORGANIZATIONS, CHIEF DIVERSITY

12:12:37 OFFICERS OR SIMILAR POSITIONS DON'T HAVE ANY POWER.

12:12:41 TWO THINGS, THEY THAT -- THIS POSITION NEEDS TO HAVE A LEVEL

12:12:45 OF AUTONOMY TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN PASS ON AND EFFECT CHANGE.

12:12:50 NUMBER TWO, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ANONYMOUS SYSTEM OR A

12:12:53 SYSTEM THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPLAINTS OR FEEL LIKE

12:12:56 THEY'VE BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

12:12:58 THANK YOU.

12:12:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:13:00 ANYBODY ELSE?

12:13:00 ALL RIGHT.

12:13:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:13:06 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:13:07 IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FROM CHIEF BENNETT OR OCEA, WE'LL

12:13:12 MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 35.

12:13:15 ITEM NUMBER 35 IS A REQUEST AND A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA

12:13:20 THAT THE ITEM BE CONTINUED FOR 45 DAYS.

12:13:23 45 DAYS, GIVE OR TAKE, WILL BE OCTOBER 15th, OUR REGULAR

12:13:27 COUNCIL MEETING THERE.

12:13:30 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 35 TILL OCTOBER

12:13:35 15?

12:13:37 >> SO MOVED.

12:13:38 >> SO MOVED.

12:13:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO

12:13:40 WITH A SECOND I BELIEVE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.





12:13:43 ANY OBJECTION?

12:13:44 HEARING THAT THERE'S NO OBJECTION, IT PASSES BY UNANIMOUS

12:13:51 CONSENT.

12:13:51 RESCHEDULED OR CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 15th.

12:13:55 ALL RIGHT.

12:13:55 WE HAVE THREE ITEMS LEFT, BUT DON'T GET EXCITED BECAUSE NEXT

12:13:59 UP IS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.

12:14:02 WE HAVE A PowerPoint CALLED SPEED MANAGEMENT UPDATE.

12:14:06 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THAT.

12:14:08 ITEM NUMBER 36.

12:14:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

12:14:20 >> I'LL WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION TO BE BROUGHT UP.

12:14:22 THE CURRENT PRESENTATION IS A FOLLOW-UP FROM THE ORIGINAL

12:14:32 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ON

12:14:38 APRIL 30th AND THE SUBSEQUENT MEETING ON MAY 21st.

12:14:43 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:14:53 NEXT SLIDE. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION TODAY IS TO

12:14:57 PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE CITY IS DOING TO MANAGE

12:15:03 SPEED ON OUR ROADWAYS.

12:15:05 SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON TO HIGHLIGHT IS

12:15:10 METHODOLOGY.

12:15:11 AND FINALLY, IN PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON BAYSHORE, OR

12:15:19 WORKSHOPS, AND NEXT STEPS.

12:15:25 SO ALL OF OUR ACTIONS ARE GUIDED BY THE TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S

12:15:29 TOMORROW STRATEGY.





12:15:31 IT'S A MULTI-PRONGED STRATEGY THAT LOOKS AT TRANSPORTATION,

12:15:39 BUT ALSO CONSIDER HOW THE WORKFORCE MEETING TO KEEP OUR CITY

12:15:46 RUNNING AND HEALTHY, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, WHICH IS A

12:15:52 FACTOR AS WELL IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND SUSTAINABILITY

12:15:59 AND RESILIENCY.

12:16:04 CLIMATE CHANGE, RESILIENCE IN TERMS LIKE CONGESTION, LIKE

12:16:12 ROADWAY SAFETY.

12:16:14 BUT SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE EMBARKED ON A JOURNEY CALLED

12:16:21 MOVES.

12:16:21 THIS IS A CITY-WIDE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WAS DEFINED,

12:16:27 THE DESIGN OF OUR STREETS OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

12:16:30 AND THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

12:16:35 WE HAVE INITIATED THAT PROGRAM THIS YEAR THROUGH A

12:16:38 PROCUREMENT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE PLAN.

12:16:43 THE KEY TENETS ARE MOBILITY FOR ALL, MEANING ALL PEOPLE, AND

12:16:49 PERSONS OF ALL ABILITIES AS WELL.

12:16:52 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN THAT FACTORS INTO OUR

12:16:58 CALCULATION.

12:16:59 AND SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE.

12:17:02 EQUITY, WHICH IS A KEY INITIATIVE AS WELL.

12:17:05 AND FINALLY SAFETY.

12:17:07 AND SAFETY IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON.

12:17:12 WE HAVE ADOPTED A VISION FOR OUR CITY LAST MOVE NOVEMBER,

12:17:17 AND IT IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT THAT DRIVES ALL OF OUR

12:17:22 ACTION.





12:17:22 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:17:30 SO SOME OF THE TENETS THAT WE LOOKED AT ARE SPEED

12:17:34 MANAGEMENT, SPEED AND THE HIGH CORRELATION, THE HIGH INJURY,

12:17:38 THAT'S VERY WELL DOCUMENTED.

12:17:42 WE LOOK AT PROVIDING A SAFE TRANSPORTATION, ALL OTHER TYPES

12:17:51 OF MODE AS WELL, PEDESTRIAN, BIKING, AND OTHERS.

12:18:00 EQUITY AND EFFICIENCY IS CRITICAL IN CONSIDERING HOW WE --

12:18:08 TRYING OUT NEW IDEAS, THE CITY AS A LAB.

12:18:11 THIS IS VERY CRITICAL ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF LIMITED BUDGET

12:18:15 BUT ALSO IN CHANGE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.

12:18:23 IF THEY ARE GOOD, WE USE THEM. IF NOT WE MOVE ON.

12:18:27 WE MENTIONED SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE.

12:18:30 DESIGN FLEXIBILITY. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL.

12:18:33 ENTERING THE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEIR NEEDS.

12:18:36 AND THIS IS A SLIGHT DEPARTURE FROM THE CITY-WIDE PLAN THAT

12:18:40 MOST CITIES HAD IN THE 90s AND EARLY 2000S.

12:18:46 NOW WE HAVE THAT PLAN AS WELL IN CONNECTIVITY BUT WE GO TO

12:18:50 NEIGHBORHOODS AND SAY, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE

12:18:53 THERE, AND PRESENT AN EXAMPLE.

12:18:57 AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

12:18:59 WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AND

12:19:02 UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE DOING THIS.

12:19:05 AND A KEY REASON WHY WE ARE DOING THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH

12:19:10 COUNTY PER CRASH HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST OR SIGNIFICANT

12:19:16 INJURY RATES IN THE NATION.





12:19:18 THIS IS BORNE BY DATA AND WORK DONE BY THE MPO.

12:19:23 SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE A TOP PRIORITY.

12:19:27 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:19:29 SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT HOW SPEED FACTORS INTO

12:19:37 PROBABILITY OF SURVIVAL.

12:19:41 AS YOU CAN SEE, AT 40 MILES PER HOUR, THE RATE OF SURVIVAL

12:19:46 IS DISMAL, ONLY ONE OUT OF TEN PEDESTRIANS WILL SURVIVE A

12:19:50 DIRECT IMPACT.

12:19:52 AND THAT IS LOWERED AS YOU LOWER THE SPEED SO WE ARE LOOKING

12:19:58 AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOWERING AND CALMING STREETS.

12:20:02 THERE ARE VARIOUS STRATEGIES THAT WE ADOPT.

12:20:07 AWARENESS IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, AND IN TERMS OF

12:20:10 CONSEQUENCES ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

12:20:13 ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE, REDESIGNING OUR STREETS IS

12:20:18 SOMETHING THAT HAS SHOWN TO BE EFFECTIVE ACROSS THE BOARD.

12:20:21 AND WE DO THIS IN MANY WAYS.

12:20:26 OPERATING OUR SIGNALS DIFFERENTLY, GIVING PEDESTRIANS MORE

12:20:29 OPPORTUNITY, REDUCING LANES, AND AGAIN ADDING CROSSWALKS.

12:20:34 SO THE THING ABOUT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LANES IS

12:20:41 PEDESTRIANS CROSS FEWER LANES, SAFETY INCREASES.

12:20:46 THE CHANCE OF CRASH DECREASES.

12:20:48 AND THEN IT HAS TO BE BALANCED WITH MOBILITY NEEDS OVER THE

12:20:54 CORRIDOR, AND AGAIN THIS IS AS MUCH AS IT IS IMPROVING THE

12:21:02 IMPROVEMENT OF OUR ROADWAYS, WE MAY SEE THE SAME NUMBER OF

12:21:10 PEOPLE OVERALL.





12:21:10 THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT, AND OF COURSE CONGESTION

12:21:13 MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

12:21:16 WE ALSO FIND ESPECIALLY SEPARATING BICYCLISTS WITH RIGID OR

12:21:30 FLEXIBLE MATERIALS, OR BEHIND PARKING LANES, OR SEPARATING

12:21:35 PEDESTRIANS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN USING SIDEWALKS.

12:21:40 BUT ALSO IN ROADWAYS, LEFT TURN LANE, FOR EXAMPLE.

12:21:45 THAT IS ONE WAY.

12:21:47 ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT IS BY CHANGING POTENTIAL ANGLES OF

12:21:51 IMPACT.

12:21:51 SO RIGHT ANGLE CRASHES, MUCH MORE INJURY AND HARM, THAN

12:22:01 THOSE THAT ARE DIFFERENT ANGLES, AND THAT'S WHERE

12:22:03 ROUNDABOUTS ARE VERY EFFECTIVE AS WELL.

12:22:08 A COMBINATION OF EFFORTS.

12:22:10 NEXT SLIDE.

12:22:20 ANOTHER THING WE ARE LOOKING AT NOT JUST REDESIGNING

12:22:24 FACILITIES BUT LOOKING AT PROGRAMS LIKE WASHINGTON, D.C. FOR

12:22:30 OUR LOCAL ROADS.

12:22:31 AND ON A NARROW LOCAL ROAD, SPEEDS OF 20 MILES PER HOUR FOR

12:22:38 PEDESTRIANS, IS MUCH HIGHER.

12:22:43 SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING ON.

12:22:47 OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE EVALUATED THE ENTIRE STREET NETWORK

12:22:51 IN TAMPA AND THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

12:22:57 OF COURSE, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT OR THE POSTED

12:23:01 SPEED LIMIT.

12:23:02 IT HAS TO BE VERY GOOD DESIGN.





12:23:03 AND THAT IS A COMPONENT OF OUR VISION ZERO PROGRAM.

12:23:07 NEXT SLIDE.

12:23:15 ANOTHER SIMPLE BUT VERY POWERFUL THING IS FOUR WAY STOPS.

12:23:23 WE HAVE A LOT OF STOPS WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND

12:23:25 SOMETIMES THAT SORT OF SPEED OR THAT SORT OF CONTROL, SO

12:23:39 REDUCE INJURIES BY UP TO 80%.

12:23:42 SO BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR 2020, WE WILL BE

12:23:46 CONVERTING TO INTERSECTIONS IS ALREADY UNDERWAY IN TAMPA

12:23:53 WITH STOP CONTROLS.

12:23:56 AGAIN, THIS IS A LOW-COST WAY OF IMPROVING THIS AND MANAGING

12:24:00 SPEEDS WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.

12:24:04 IT DOES NOT ADD DELAY AT ALL BUT MAKES LIFE MUCH SAFER AND

12:24:08 QUALITY OF LIFE BETTER FOR PEDESTRIANS ANDS BICYCLISTS,

12:24:12 ESPECIALLY ON STREETS WHERE WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE SIDEWALKS,

12:24:15 AND SO THIS MAKES IT A MUCH MORE MULTIMODAL.

12:24:23 NEXT SLIDE.

12:24:27 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME PROJECTS, AND ALL OF OUR WORK IS

12:24:32 DATA DRIVEN IN TERMS OF ROI OR IN TERMS OF VARIOUS FACTORS,

12:24:37 INCLUDING CONDITION OF FACILITIES, MOBILITY NEEDS AND

12:24:46 MAINTENANCE.

12:24:47 SO AGAIN WITH LIMITED BUDGET, PARKING AREAS.

12:25:16 AND OF COURSE IN TAMPA AROUND 34th STREET, ADDING A

12:25:21 ROUNDABOUT, WHICH WILL ENHANCE SAFETY, THE CROSSWALKS ON THE

12:25:27 ROUNDABOUT APPROACHES WILL HAVE -- THIS IS WHAT KNOWN

12:25:34 MEASURE OF REDUCING CRASHES BY UP TO 90%.





12:25:38 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:25:43 A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS.

12:25:45 THE ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AT THE TO LEFT WHICH

12:25:51 IS COMPLETE STREETS.

12:25:54 WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT DESIGNING STREETS FOR SPECIFIC

12:25:57 NEIGHBORHOODS.

12:25:58 SO WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY HERE, AND YOU HAVE GOT A GREAT

12:26:02 TEAM.

12:26:03 WE CONDUCTED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIALLY, THIS FACILITY

12:26:09 WAS CREATED FOR SEPARATED BICYCLE SPACE BUT THE COMMUNITY

12:26:13 WANTED MORE LANDSCAPING AND WANTED WIDER SIDEWALKS.

12:26:17 SO WE ELIMINATED THE BIKE LANE BUT WE STILL GET NARROW

12:26:23 STREETS, AND AGAIN WHERE WE WANT TO GO IN TERMS OF -- BUT WE

12:26:31 CHANGED OUR DESIGN.

12:26:33 AND HISTORICALLY, WE DIDN'T GO TO THE COMMUNITIES UNTIL WE

12:26:39 HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO, AND WE ARE ASKING

12:26:45 NEIGHBORHOODS QUESTIONS.

12:26:49 FLORIBRASKA, ANOTHER CORRIDOR.

12:26:51 A ROUNDABOUT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

12:26:57 BROREIN BRIDGE, EXPANSION OF SIDEWALKS THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE

12:27:01 MORE MULTIMODAL TRAFFIC, EXTENDING THE RIVERWALK ACROSS THE

12:27:06 BRIDGE, ELIMINATING ONE LANE ON THE BRIDGE TO MAKE ROOM FOR

12:27:12 SIDEWALKS, SO THE BROREIN STREET BRIDGE, THAT PEOPLE ARE

12:27:32 TRYING TO GET OVER, BUT SINGLE LANES, LEFT AND RIGHT LANES,

12:27:46 AND WE ARE ACCOMMODATING MORE PEOPLE.





12:27:48 SO THESE ARE SOME STRATEGIES.

12:27:49 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:27:59 THIS IS DEVELOPED BY MPO HIGH INJURY NOTE WORK CORE --

12:28:05 VISION ZERO PRIORITY CORRIDORS.

12:28:08 WE LOOKED AT THE FACILITY IN TERMS OF HIGH INJURY CRASHES,

12:28:11 AND PRIORITIZE OUR PROJECTS BASED ON THAT.

12:28:14 A LOT OF THESE ARE OF COURSE STATE AND COUNTY FACILITIES.

12:28:18 SO WE WORK WITH THE STATE IN BEST PRACTICES, AND WITH THE

12:28:25 COUNTY AS WELL.

12:28:25 AND YOU WILL SEE SOME UPCOMING PROJECTS AT HOWARD AND

12:28:28 ARMENIA, PARTICULARLY SAFE SYSTEM DESIGN OR APPROACH OF

12:28:38 TRANSPORTATION.

12:28:38 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:28:50 THIS SHOWS YOU DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT THE CITY HAS WITH

12:28:54 OTHER JURISDICTIONS BASED ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM

12:28:57 BUDGET OF THE STATE, THE COUNTY, AND THE CITY.

12:29:07 INVESTMENTS COME BACK TO THE CITY, BUT JUST, PER LANE, WE

12:29:15 HAVE ABOUT $4,000 TO SPEND IN OUR BUDGET, AND OTHER

12:29:24 FACILITIES LIKE BRIDGES, WE HAVE 115,000.

12:29:29 MY ONLY POINT HERE IS WE ARE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE OUR

12:29:33 AVAILABLE FUNDING, AND WE CONTINUE AS THE SURTAX PASS.

12:29:47 NEXT SLIDE.

12:29:48 NOW LET'S MOVE OUR FOCUS TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD OF THE

12:29:53 ORIGINAL MOTION WHICH IS WHAT HAVE WE DONE, PRESENTED WHAT

12:29:56 WE ARE GOING TO DO.





12:29:57 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:30:05 THIS IS OUR PLAN IN THE SHORT TERM, YOU KNOW, TO ADD NEW

12:30:08 TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT EUCLID AND ROME, AND THIS IS APRIL.

12:30:16 WE ARE HERE IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE

12:30:22 TRAFFIC SIGNAL MODIFICATIONS, AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THESE

12:30:34 SIGNALS, AT EUCLID AND ROME, ARE MEANT TO CREATE -- GRID IN

12:30:52 TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND TRAFFIC WILL HAVE TO STOP MORE, AND THIS

12:30:55 IS A KNOWN MEASURE.

12:30:56 THERE ARE SOME OTHER ACTIONS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

12:31:02 AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT ON MONITORING,

12:31:07 AND ENFORCING SPEEDING.

12:31:10 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:31:23 GET DEBRIS OUT OF OUR BIKE LANE, BECAUSE BIKES ARE A LOT

12:31:27 MORE VULNERABLE THAN VEHICLES.

12:31:29 EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF DEBRIS IMPACTS THEM.

12:31:32 SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE EQUIPMENT BUILT SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.

12:31:41 BUT THESE ARE SMALLER IN GETTING THE BAKE LANES, AND THAT

12:31:46 WAY WE CAN INTRODUCE MORE DESIGN FOR BIKE CONTROLS ON OUR

12:31:54 ROADWAYS.

12:31:55 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:31:59 WE HAVE UPGRADED A LOT OF THE SIGNAGE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE

12:32:04 MORE INTUITIVE.

12:32:08 PICTURES GENERALLY ARE BETTER THAN WORDS ON SIGNAGE.

12:32:11 SO THE BUSH BUTTON SIGNS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WILL BE

12:32:15 REMOVED, AND NEWER ONES THAT ADD ADDITIONAL ATTENTION -- IN





12:32:22 FACT, I THINK THESE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, 114 OF THEM ALONG

12:32:30 BAYSHORE.

12:32:30 NEXT SLIDE.

12:32:33 THIS IS A PICTURE OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

12:32:37 THEY WENT INTO OPERATION LAST MONTH.

12:32:39 NEXT SLIDE.

12:32:44 THIS IS A SUMMARY OF ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES ALONG BAYSHORE,

12:32:52 AND IN TERMS OF CITATIONS, IN TERMS OF WARNINGS.

12:32:55 THIS HAS TO BE LOOKED AT WITH DECREASE IN TRAFFIC FROM THE

12:33:04 PANDEMIC AS WELL.

12:33:05 BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

12:33:08 WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT ON THE CORRIDORS AND WE ARE MONITORING.

12:33:12 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:33:19 THIS IS A SUMMARY OF OUR RECENT ACTION, AND WE WILL CONTINUE

12:33:22 TO WORK ON BAYSHORE TO MAKE SURE IT'S A SAFE MULTIMODAL

12:33:30 CORRIDOR AND, YOU KNOW, WORK ON FINDING OUT HOW WE CAN

12:33:35 CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THIS ROADWAY FOR MULTIPLE PURPOSES.

12:33:39 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:33:52 THIS IS ONLY AN EXERCISE TO UNDERSTAND AND IT IS IN RESPONSE

12:33:54 TO SOME OF THE REQUESTS FROM THE COMMUNITY IN THE PAST.

12:33:58 AGAIN, WE ARE JUST WORKING WITH D.O.T. AND THEA TO

12:34:07 UNDERSTAND BETTER HOW THIS PROGRAM WILL OPERATE WITH TWO

12:34:10 LANES VERSUS FOUR.

12:34:12 WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION YET.

12:34:17 NEXT SLIDE.





12:34:19 WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR STREET ACTIVATION,

12:34:27 THE CALM STREET, BY REPURPOSING THEM ESPECIALLY AROUND SIGNS

12:34:36 OR IN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE A PANDEMIC.

12:34:38 WE HAVE DONE A PRESENTATION ON THIS BEFORE SO I WILL MOVE TO

12:34:41 THE NEXT SLIDE.

12:34:48 THERE IS THE CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS.

12:34:54 TO GET THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED AT THE SAME TIME, AND IN HAVING

12:34:59 PUBLIC SPACES.

12:35:04 NEXT SLIDE.

12:35:05 AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

12:35:08 HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

12:35:09 AND THANK YOU AGAIN.

12:35:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:35:12 I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON SINCE THIS IS YOUR

12:35:15 MOTION.

12:35:15 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS?

12:35:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MR. CHAIR.

12:35:21 THANK YOU, VIK AND YOUR TEAM FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

12:35:25 JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, BY CHARTER CITY COUNCIL AMENDMENT,

12:35:32 WE DON'T SEE THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, WE CAN GET INPUTS AND

12:35:36 IDEAS AND PASS ON IDEAS BUT IN THIS CASE THE ADMINISTRATION

12:35:39 WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO HOLD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS

12:35:42 ON IT.

12:35:43 WE HAD ONE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

12:35:44 WE TOOK FOUR HOURS OF PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN WE HAVE THIS ONE





12:35:48 WITH SOME INTERIM IDEAS AND PROGRESS REPORTS ARE BEING MADE.

12:35:51 I TALKED TO VIK ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.

12:35:53 AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS OR IDEAS REGARDING

12:35:56 BAYSHORE, YOU CAN GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL BUT THE BEST ROUTE

12:36:00 IS GO STRAIGHT TO VIK.

12:36:02 HE'S VERY OPEN TAKING PUBLIC INPUT AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO

12:36:05 WORK ON THIS, AND AS THE TITLE SAYS, IT'S ALSO ABOUT

12:36:09 SPEEDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT JUST BAYSHORE.

12:36:11 AND IT LOOKS LUKE EVERYBODY IN ADMINISTRATION IS COMMITTED

12:36:14 TO TRYING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN WHEN BUDGETS ARE AVAILABLE.

12:36:17 SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO SEND IDEAS TO VIK AND HE WILL KEEP US

12:36:21 UPDATED.

12:36:22 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

12:36:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:36:24 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE?

12:36:29 ANYBODY ELSE?

12:36:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:36:32 WE APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION.

12:36:33 WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

12:36:37 ALL RIGHT.

12:36:37 WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 37.

12:36:43 AND WE HAVE -- I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPORT HERE FROM MR. WHIT

12:36:48 REMER.

12:36:50 AND IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH

12:36:53 THIS ITEM.





12:36:53 >>WHIT REMER: CAN YOU MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

12:36:56 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

12:36:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

12:36:58 >>WHIT REMER: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

12:37:00 GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.

12:37:01 THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME ON AND

12:37:04 PRESENT TODAY ABOUT THIS ITEM.

12:37:06 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:37:10 TODAY, THIS IS A STAFF REPORT WITH AN ATTACHMENT OF A DRAFT

12:37:14 RESOLUTION TO DISCUSS AND ENCOURAGE THE RESTRICTION OF

12:37:19 SINGLE USE PLASTICS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:37:24 THANKS TO COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME A LITTLE TIME TO GET ON

12:37:26 BOARD IN MY POSITION AS SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER FOR THE CITY

12:37:31 OF TAMPA.

12:37:32 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS TIMELINE, THE ISSUE, I APPRECIATE

12:37:38 YOU GIVING ME A COUPLE EXTRA MONTHS TO GET SITUATED TO COME

12:37:41 UP WITH A WORKABLE, PRACTICAL AND USABLE SOLUTION.

12:37:45 SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:37:48 IN JANUARY, THERE WAS A MOTION MADE TO STUDY THE CITY OF

12:37:57 ORLANDO'S SINGLE USE PLASTICS RESTRICTION, WITH THE HELP OF

12:38:03 LEGAL COUNSEL, I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT SEVERAL CITIES, AND

12:38:08 DETERMINE HOW CITIES HAVE APPROACHED THIS ISSUE.

12:38:14 WE KNOW THAT SINGLE USE PLASTICS DEGRADE OUR ENVIRONMENT,

12:38:18 ARE OFTEN ONLY USED FOR SEVERAL MINUTES, AND CAN TAKE MANY

12:38:23 FORMS, BOTH POLYSTYRENE, WHICH IS STYROFOAM, STRAWS, PLASTIC





12:38:31 BAGS, OR A NUMBER OF THESE SINGLE USE PLASTICS.

12:38:36 AND THE CITY OF ORLANDO'S POLICY WAS ADOPTED THROUGH THE

12:38:39 CITY OPERATIONS COMMITTEE WHICH THEN WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY

12:38:43 COUNCIL AND INSTRUCTED THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME UP WITH A

12:38:48 WORKABLE POLICY, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'LL SUGGEST TODAY.

12:38:52 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:38:56 SO THE PROPOSED APPROACH FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS THAT THE

12:39:00 CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE

12:39:02 ENVIRONMENTAL USE OF SINGLE USE PLASTICS, AND IMPLEMENT A

12:39:07 POLICY THAT IS LEGALLY SOUND, ADDRESSES THE MAJOR OF

12:39:10 VENDORS, RECOGNIZES THE LIMITATIONS OF IMPLEMENTATION,

12:39:15 PREEMPTION BY STATE LAW AND HONOR IT IS GROUNDWORK OF

12:39:18 CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS IN THE GRASSROOTS EFFORTS.

12:39:25 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:39:27 SO LEGALLY SOUND.

12:39:28 THIS WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST RESEARCH COMPONENT OF

12:39:34 DETERMINING THE RESTRICTIONS OF SINGLE USE PLASTICS BY

12:39:40 PREEMPTION.

12:39:41 STATE LAW ALLOWS CITIES TO RESTRICT CERTAIN TYPES OF SINGLE

12:39:44 USE PLASTICS ON CITY PROPERTY THROUGH CITY CONTRACTS AND

12:39:49 DEPARTMENTS.

12:39:50 THAT'S A PRETTY CLEAR LEGAL LINE THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT

12:39:55 GAVE TO ME AS I RESEARCHED THIS ISSUE.

12:39:59 AND THAT IS THE ROUTE THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD

12:40:04 WITH.





12:40:05 STATE LAW CURRENTLY PREEMPTS RECYCLABLE CONTAINERS, AND IN

12:40:11 THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION THERE WAS A BILL THAT WOULD

12:40:15 HAVE PREEMPTED THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS, THAT WAS VETOED BY

12:40:19 GOVERNOR DESANTIS.

12:40:21 I WILL ALSO ADD THERE IS A NEW LAW THAT PREEMPTS CERTAIN

12:40:25 RESTRICTIONS ON FOOD TRUCKS.

12:40:29 NEXT SLIDE.

12:40:33 SO THIS SLIDE MIGHT BE A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT HERE IS

12:40:36 WHAT -- WE BY CURRENT LAW ARE ALLOWED TO REGULATE THE USE OF

12:40:42 POLYSTYRENE ON CITY PROPERTY SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT

12:40:46 APPROACH WITH CITY COUNCIL'S BLESSING.

12:40:49 THERE IS THE ABILITY TO REGULATE THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS

12:40:53 CITY-WIDE.

12:40:54 HOWEVER, AFTER A LOT OF CONSIDERATION AND CONVERSATIONS WITH

12:40:59 STAKEHOLDERS, THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO -- THE ADMINISTRATION

12:41:03 IS THOUGHT GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A

12:41:08 PLASTIC STRAW BAN RIGHT NOW.

12:41:10 AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CONSIDERATIONS WHICH I CAN WALK

12:41:14 THROUGH.

12:41:15 THE FIRST AND FOREMOST BEING THAT OUR SERVICE INDUSTRY AND

12:41:18 RESTAURANTS RIGHT NOW ARE OPERATING AT 50% CAPACITY AND ON

12:41:22 VERY, VERY THIN MARGINS, AND WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS

12:41:26 INSENSITIVE GIVEN THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND THE FINANCIAL

12:41:30 CONSTRAINTS OF MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE UNDER TO COME IN

12:41:35 WITH SOMEWHAT OF A HEAVY HAND AND REGULATE PLASTIC STRAWS





12:41:40 WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT RIGHT NOW.

12:41:42 HOWEVER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD, AND

12:41:50 PRETTY CLEAR LEGAL GUIDANCE THAT REGULATE PLASTIC STRAWS

12:41:53 PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW, SO NOT GOING TO GO THERE.

12:41:56 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:41:58 SO ADDRESSING MAJOR VENDORS, SOME POLYSTYRENE, IF THE CITY

12:42:04 COUNCIL DOES MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION

12:42:09 DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO RESTRICT SINGLE USE

12:42:14 PLASTICS, OUR PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT AN OUTRIGHT BAN

12:42:19 ON FOAM POLYSTYRENE, ALSO KNOWN AS STYROFOAM, ON CITY

12:42:24 PROPERTY THROUGH CITY CONTRACT AND PERMITS, AND SO THE

12:42:28 REASON THAT WE ARRIVED AT THAT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS LEGAL

12:42:32 ADVICE THAT SOMETHING WE DID RESTRICT WITH THE EXCEPTIONS

12:42:37 PROVIDED BY STATE EXEMPTION LAW, AND THERE ARE REASONABLE

12:42:40 ALTERNATIVES TO SOME POLYSTYRENE OR STYROFOAM, AND WE KNOW

12:42:46 THAT THIS TYPE OF PLASTIC IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS IN THE

12:42:51 ENVIRONMENT, AND THIS WAS A PRETTY EASY ONE AND A MINOR

12:42:55 INCONVENIENCE FOR BOTH VENDORS AND PATRONS TO LIVE WITH.

12:43:00 SO IF THE COUNCIL DOES MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION, THE

12:43:06 CITY IS READY AND PREPARED TO IMPLEMENT A BAN ON SOME

12:43:11 POLYSTYRENE OR STYROFOAM.

12:43:15 NEXT SLIDE.

12:43:17 SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON STRAWS.

12:43:20 THERE WERE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS GIVEN HERE TO NOT MOVE

12:43:25 FORWARD WITH AN OUTRIGHT BAN ON PLASTIC STRAWS HERE IN THE





12:43:28 CITY OF TAMPA.

12:43:29 THERE ARE ADA CONSIDERATIONS, AS I MENTIONED, WANTED TO BE

12:43:33 SENSITIVE TO THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE OPERATING AND HAVE

12:43:36 CURRENT SUPPLIES IN THEIR CURRENT VENDOR CONTRACTS.

12:43:42 ENFORCEMENT IS VERY DIFFICULT ON THIS.

12:43:44 IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, WHICH ISN'T IN AND OF ITSELF A GOOD

12:43:49 REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT MORE TIME

12:43:53 NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO AN OUTREACH PLAN FOR ALL RESTAURANTS

12:43:58 AND FOOD VENDORS THAT ARE OPERATING IN THE CITY LIMITS.

12:44:01 AND FINALLY, THERE ARE CERTAIN FOOD AND BEVERAGE TYPES THAT

12:44:07 WE WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH WORKABLE SOLUTIONS THAT

12:44:10 ALTERNATIVE STRAWS LIKE METAL AND PAPER DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A

12:44:15 GOOD FIT, BUT THERE'S MORE RESEARCH THAT WE CAN DO THERE.

12:44:19 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

12:44:23 FINALLY NOTE ON THE PLASTIC BAGS.

12:44:26 WE THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE MOVEMENT BOTH AT THE STATE

12:44:29 LEVEL AND THE CITY LEVEL AT SOME POINT TO REGULATE PLASTIC

12:44:32 STRAWS, BUT WE RECOGNIZE -- EXCUSE ME, PLASTIC BAGS, BUT WE

12:44:37 DO RECOGNIZE THAT PLASTIC BAGS ARE TECHNICALLY RECYCLABLE

12:44:41 AND THEREFORE PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW.

12:44:44 SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OUR STATE PARTNERS ON A

12:44:47 PLASTIC BAG RESTRICTION IN THE FUTURE.

12:44:49 BUT RATE NOW RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING.

12:44:58 NEXT SLIDE.

12:44:59 THE FINAL THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THE GREAT BACKGROUND





12:45:04 WORK OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORKED DILIGENTLY IN FLORIDA ON

12:45:07 THIS ISSUE, PARTICULARLY THE RISE ABOVE PLASTICS COALITION.

12:45:12 THEY HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB BOTH IN THE AREA ABOUT THE

12:45:20 NEEDS TO MAKE A TRANSITION FROM ALL TYPES OF SINGLE USE

12:45:23 PLASTICS, NOT ONLY STRAWS.

12:45:25 I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUTOUT.

12:45:27 THEY HAVE DONE INCREDIBLE WORK.

12:45:29 SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL'S

12:45:37 CONSIDERATION.

12:45:38 IF COUNCIL DOES ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TODAY, I THINK THEY

12:45:41 MIGHT HAVE THAT OPTION, OR THEY CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT

12:45:44 COUNCIL AGENDA.

12:45:45 THAT WOULD BE FINE AS WELL, IF THERE'S FEEDBACK.

12:45:48 AND AS SOON AS THIS RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED, THE

12:45:50 ADMINISTRATION -- ENACT IMMEDIATELY A POLICY WHICH WILL

12:45:57 MATCH THE PRESENTATION TODAY ON POLYSTYRENE STRAWS AND WE

12:46:05 LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING THIS PROGRAM OUT AS WE MOVE

12:46:07 FORWARD.

12:46:08 SO THANK YOU.

12:46:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT VERY

12:46:12 DETAILED PRESENTATION.

12:46:13 WE APPRECIATE THAT.

12:46:15 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AT

12:46:18 THIS TIME?

12:46:18 COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU MADE THIS MOTION.





12:46:21 WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK?

12:46:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:46:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

12:46:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THIS PRESENTATION TODAY.

12:46:32 I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THIS IS TIME THE CITY TAKES A LEAD ON

12:46:36 SINGLE USE PLASTICS AND THE BANNING OF SINGLE USE PLASTICS

12:46:40 AND TO ASK THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY OF

12:46:45 TAMPA TO FOLLOW OUR LEAD.

12:46:48 WE HAVE MADE -- YOU HAVE MADE SOME GREAT COMMENTS TODAY, AND

12:46:51 WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE.

12:46:55 HOWEVER, TODAY WILL BE THE DAY TO MAKE THE START.

12:46:59 AND MR. CHAIR, AFTER I HEAR FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I

12:47:04 WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE THE

12:47:08 RESOLUTION TODAY.

12:47:09 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

12:47:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:47:12 AND REAL QUICK, STYROFOAM WAS BROUGHT UP.

12:47:16 I THINK STYROFOAM IS GROSS.

12:47:22 YOU THINK ABOUT THE LONG LASTING EFFECTS IN THE

12:47:24 ENVIRONMENTS.

12:47:25 IT'S GOING -- STYROFOAM IN THE ENVIRONMENT OUTLIVES US.

12:47:29 IT'S GOING TO EXIST LONGER THAN WE ARE ALIVE.

12:47:32 AND SITTING THERE IN THE ENVIRONMENT DOING NOTHING.

12:47:34 STYROFOAM, CONTAINER THAT WE USE FOR A FEW MINUTES TO EAT A

12:47:38 MEAL, WHATNOT, BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS WITH THE





12:47:48 STRAWS, PAPER STRAWS, BAMBOO STRAWS, METAL STRAWS, PLASTIC

12:47:53 BAGS.

12:47:53 YOU DON'T USE PLASTIC BAGS.

12:47:55 I USE THE RENEWABLE ONES.

12:47:57 I HAVE A BUNCH OF THEM IN MY OFFICE.

12:47:59 I KEEP THEM THERE.

12:48:01 I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE STARTING TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE HERE.

12:48:07 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS?

12:48:11 HEARING NONE, COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND

12:48:15 MAKE A MOTION TODAY?

12:48:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE YOU CALLING

12:48:21 MY NAME AND YOU ARE A MIND READER.

12:48:23 I DID HAVE A QUESTION TO WHIT.

12:48:26 HE MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED IT.

12:48:27 IF HE DID, I APOLOGIZE I MISSED IT.

12:48:31 WHIT, DOES THIS INCLUDE THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, ESPECIALLY AS

12:48:35 RELATED TO LARGE EVENTS WHEN WE SHUT DOWN 7th AVENUE FOR

12:48:41 VARIOUS PARADES OR SHUT DOWN THE BAYSHORE FOR GASPARILLA,

12:48:47 THAT SORT OF THING?

12:48:49 HAVE WE LOOKED INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF INCLUDING THE BAN ON

12:48:54 STYROFOAM FOR THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS?

12:48:57 >>WHIT REMER: THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN

12:49:02 DINGFELDER.

12:49:02 I HAVE WRITTEN -- THIS POLICY WOULD NOT EXTEND THOSE

12:49:06 RIGHTS-OF-WAY.





12:49:06 HOWEVER IT WOULD EXTEND TO PERMITS.

12:49:08 AND THE REASON RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT WRITTEN WITHIN

12:49:11 RIGHTS-OF-WAY IS BECAUSE UNDER THE INTERLOCAL PROGRAM THERE

12:49:14 ARE SEVERAL RESTAURANTS OPERATING ON CITY SIDEWALKS.

12:49:18 SO YOU GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA.

12:49:21 AND IF THERE'S -- I KNOW THAT PROGRAM IS TEMPORARY BUT IT'S

12:49:26 LOOKED AT BEING EXTENDED.

12:49:28 HOWEVER, FOR AN EVENT SUCH AS BAYSHORE, THERE IS A MASTER

12:49:32 PERMIT THAT IS ISSUED FOR THAT EVENT.

12:49:34 AND OUR INTENTION IS THE PERMIT AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT

12:49:39 WOULD APPLY TO THAT MASTER PERMIT WOULD TRICKLE DOWN INTO

12:49:43 VENDORS THAT ARE OPERATING.

12:49:45 SO PART OF A MIXED ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THERE, BUT THE

12:49:50 RIGHTS-OF-WAY CAN GET A LITTLE BIT TRICKY.

12:49:53 I ALSO DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AN

12:49:57 EXCEPTION FOR EVENTS THAT ARE UNDER 100 PEOPLE.

12:50:01 SO IF THERE ARE SMALL BIRTHDAY PARTIES OR SMALL FAMILY

12:50:09 GATHERINGS, THAT STYROFOAM IS BROUGHT ONTO CITY PROPERTY

12:50:14 WHERE THERE'S UNDER 100 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION

12:50:17 THERE.

12:50:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

12:50:19 I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS.

12:50:22 I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR AND STAFF BEING CONCERNED AS WELL.

12:50:28 I THINK TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY VERY LARGE EVENTS

12:50:35 LIKE WE SPOKE TO, INCLUDING GASPARILLA, THAT WE TRY OUR BEST





12:50:40 TO ENCOURAGE OR ENFORCE THE PROHIBITION OF STYROFOAM.

12:50:46 BECAUSE INEVITABLY SOME OF THAT STYROFOAM IS GOING END UP

12:50:49 OUT IN THE BAY AS WELL.

12:50:51 I MEAN DIRECTLY OUT IN THE BAY, WITHOUT EVEN GOING TO THE

12:50:54 LANDFILL, ET CETERA. ANYWAY, I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING ON

12:50:58 MR. CITRO'S MOTION.

12:51:00 THANK YOU.

12:51:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:51:02 ANYBODY ELSE?

12:51:02 >> AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WITH THE HEAVY RAINS AND DAM

12:51:13 RELEASE UP THE RIVER, WE HAVE NOTICED TRASH FLOW ALONG THE

12:51:18 BAYFRONT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ADMINISTRATION ATTENTION

12:51:21 AND THERE ARE SEVERAL EFFORTS RIGHT NOW TO WORK ON

12:51:23 ADDITIONAL SWEEPING EFFORTS.

12:51:25 SO WHILE THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION HOPEFULLY GETS AT THE

12:51:28 ROOT CAUSE, PLEASE DO KNOW THAT WE ARE COMMITTED ALSO TO

12:51:35 MAKING SURE THAT TRASH DOESN'T END IN THE WATERWAYS WITH

12:51:39 PARTNERSHIPS AFTER THIS PROGRAM IS IN PLACE.

12:51:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:51:44 AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON THAT ITEM, WHIT, I WANT TO SAY THAT I

12:51:49 AM GLAD YOU ARE ONBOARD.

12:51:51 NOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

12:51:52 YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF.

12:51:53 YOU ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

12:51:55 AND I AM GLAD THAT WE HAVE YOU HERE WITH US BECAUSE YOU





12:51:58 TRULY DO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.

12:52:00 COUNCILMAN CITRO HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

12:52:02 IS THERE A SECOND?

12:52:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

12:52:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

12:52:07 LET'S GET A ROLL CALL VOTE.

12:52:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:52:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:52:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

12:52:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:52:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

12:52:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:52:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:52:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

12:52:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.

12:52:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

12:52:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WITH THE CLERK THAT

12:52:41 IS THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.

12:52:42 IS THAT CORRECT?

12:52:43 >>THE CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.

12:52:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:52:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:52:48 WE GO NOW TO OUR FINAL ITEM.

12:52:52 THEN WE GO TO NEW BUSINESS.

12:52:54 WE ARE ALMOST THERE.





12:52:55 FINAL ITEM HERE IS REGARDING OUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND HOW WE

12:53:00 MOVE FORWARD AND WHATNOT IN THE FUTURE.

12:53:02 WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THIS?

12:53:03 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. DENNIS FERNANDEZ, INTERIM DIRECTOR

12:53:07 OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

12:53:08 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, SIR. IF NOT --

12:53:14 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD AFTERNOON.

12:53:14 THIS IS DENNIS FERNANDEZ, INTERIM DIRECTOR, PLANNING AND

12:53:18 DEVELOPMENT.

12:53:19 WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON IS LACHONE DOCK, ALSO WITH THE

12:53:23 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

12:53:24 WE DID PROVIDE A MEMO OR REPORT IN REFERENCE TO YOUR MEMO OR

12:53:32 MOTION THAT GIVES YOU AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF OUR CURRENT

12:53:40 VIRTUAL QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETINGS AND WHERE THOSE LIE TODAY.

12:53:46 AND ALSO GIVES YOU SOME OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD.

12:53:51 I WANT TO BEGIN JUST BY COMMENTING THAT THE PROCESS THAT WE

12:53:55 HAVE IN PLACE TODAY HAS BEEN REALLY THE COLLECTIVE EFFORT OF

12:54:00 MANY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS AND MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS,

12:54:04 AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AT TECHNOLOGY,

12:54:11 INNOVATION, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND DIGITAL MEDIA

12:54:14 PRODUCTION, ASSISTING IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT IN

12:54:17 PROVIDING THAT VIRTUAL FORMAT FOR YOU.

12:54:20 THERE ARE SOME -- THERE HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY SOME MEETINGS

12:54:23 THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN THAT FORM.

12:54:26 WE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT EACH TIME WE ARE ENGAGED IN ONE OF





12:54:30 THOSE MEETINGS AND HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ADAPT THE MEETINGS TO

12:54:33 BE MORE SUCCESSFUL WITH EACH CONSECUTIVE OPPORTUNITY.

12:54:38 MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THERE WILL BE A

12:54:47 NEED TO CONSIDER OTHER TYPES OF VIRTUAL OR QUASI-JUDICIAL

12:54:52 FORMATS IN THAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE GOVERNOR IS SET

12:54:57 TO EXPIRE ON OCTOBER 1st AT 12:01 A.M.

12:55:02 WE DID PROVIDE YOU SOME BACKGROUND TO THE DECISION TO

12:55:06 PRESENT THE OPTIONS THAT ARE ON PAGE 3 OF 4 OF THE REPORT.

12:55:12 THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A NEED FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND

12:55:18 STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE

12:55:20 NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE UPCOMING WITH THE

12:55:25 APPLICATION CYCLE.

12:55:27 SO WITH THAT, WE ARE HOPING TO JUST PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION

12:55:32 MOVING FORWARD BEYOND OCTOBER 1st IN THE EVENT THAT THE

12:55:36 EXECUTIVE ORDER IS NOT EXTENDED.

12:55:39 I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME REPRESENTATIVES, I BELIEVE ANDREA

12:55:44 ZELMAN IS ACTUALLY ON THE LINE AS WELL FROM THE LEGAL

12:55:47 DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST YOU IN YOUR CONVERSATION HERE.

12:55:51 I'M HAPPY TO RUN THROUGH THE OPTIONS.

12:55:53 BUT IF YOU HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU WISH TO

12:55:56 DISCUSS THOSE YOURSELVES, JUST LET US KNOW.

12:55:59 WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND SUPPORT THE DISCUSSION.

12:56:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

12:56:08 WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THIS DISCUSSION?

12:56:10 COUNCILMAN CITRO, SINCE THIS IS YOUR MOTION, WOULD YOU LIKE





12:56:13 TO BEGIN?

12:56:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.

12:56:19 AS SOON AS THE EXECUTIVE ORDER COMES DOWN FROM THE GOVERNOR

12:56:23 SAYING THAT HE WILL NO LONGER ALLOW VIRTUAL MEETINGS,

12:56:29 QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETINGS, EXCUSE ME, ARE WE READY AND SET TO

12:56:33 GO BACK TO QUORUMS, PHYSICAL QUORUMS?

12:56:43 AND HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE NOTICES TO GO OUT TO PETITIONERS?

12:56:47 AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRANSITION OURSELVES INTO THAT?

12:56:57 BY ME ASKING THESE QUESTIONS, I'M HEARING SOME CONSTITUENTS

12:57:02 SAYING THAT WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AT THE CONVENTION

12:57:06 CENTER TO HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS

12:57:11 GONE THROUGH EXTREMES TO HELP PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID BY

12:57:16 SOCIAL DISTANCING BY CLEANSING THE PODIUM BETWEEN SPEAKERS.

12:57:22 HOWEVER, COUNCIL IS NOT MEETING THERE.

12:57:24 WE ARE ALLOWING VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, WE ARE ALLOWING THE

12:57:28 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, WE ARE ALLOWING ZONING, WE ARE

12:57:31 ALLOWING OTHER DIFFERENT BOARDS TO MEET.

12:57:35 HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT MEETING THERE.

12:57:38 NOT KNOWING HOW LONG THIS CRISIS IS GOING TO BE, HOW LONG

12:57:41 IT'S GOING TO TAKE, AND EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT CITY

12:57:43 STAFF, CITY COUNCIL, LEGAL, AND THE PETITIONER, HOW LONG

12:57:46 IT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION ONCE THE GOVERNOR DOES

12:57:51 NOT EXTEND HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER?

12:57:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

12:58:01 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I'LL TAKE THE FIRST SHOT AT IT.





12:58:04 THIS IS DENNIS FERNANDEZ ONCE AGAIN.

12:58:06 IN THE EVENT THAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IS NOT EXTENDED AND

12:58:09 YOU RESUME IN-PERSON MEETINGS AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION

12:58:12 CENTER, WITH IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE BY THE PUBLIC, THE

12:58:17 APPLICANT, INTERESTED PARTIES, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A

12:58:21 NEED TO HAVE A LEAD TIME ON NOTICING.

12:58:25 WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONVERT BACK AS OF OCTOBER 1st IF

12:58:29 THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE, IN THE EVENING, FOR THE EVENING

12:58:33 MEETING.

12:58:34 SO THAT PARTICULAR FORMAT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE

12:58:39 NORMAL MEETING REGULATION, AND THERE WOULD NOT BE A DELAY ON

12:58:44 OUR END, ON THE STAFF END, OR WITH THE APPLICANT HAVING TO

12:58:49 RENOTICE.

12:58:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

12:58:53 I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET QUICK TURNAROUND.

12:58:56 I DID NOT MEAN TO SOUND UNFEELING OR UNCARING.

12:59:01 I WOULD LIKE TO SEND OUT AS MUCH LOVE AS I POSSIBLY CAN TO

12:59:04 OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

12:59:07 THEY HAVE MADE THIS TRANSITION FROM PHYSICAL TO VIRTUAL

12:59:10 MEETINGS SEAMLESS, AND IT'S HELPED ME OUT QUITE A BIT IN

12:59:18 DOCUMENTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I NEED TO HELP ME

12:59:22 WITH MY MEETINGS.

12:59:24 SO IT'S NOT THAT I WANT TO SOUND LIKE I'M NOT HAPPY WITH

12:59:29 WHAT'S GOING ON.

12:59:30 I AM JUST WANTING TO GET BACK TO THE PHYSICAL MEETINGS.





12:59:33 SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

12:59:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:59:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN?

12:59:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:59:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

12:59:44 AS EVERYBODY RECALLS -- AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS JUNE

12:59:47 OR JULY WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION THE LAST TIME -- BUT IT

12:59:52 WAS COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS -- AND THIS WAS BASED UPON ASKING

12:59:55 THE DOCTORS WHO WERE WITH US, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WOULD BE

13:00:00 SAFE FOR COUNCIL TO GO BACK.

13:00:02 AND I WILL DISTINGUISH COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM A VRB MEETING

13:00:06 OR ARC MEETING OR THAT SORT OF THING.

13:00:09 BECAUSE TYPICALLY AT VRB AND OTHER MEETINGS THEY MIGHT HAVE

13:00:16 15 OR 20 CITIZENS.

13:00:18 IN CONTRAST, COUNCIL COULD GET 100 PEOPLE OR MORE,

13:00:22 ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES.

13:00:24 SO THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND SOME OF THOSE

13:00:28 SMALL BOARDS.

13:00:28 BUT MY OTHER POINT WAS WHEN WE ASKED THE DOCTORS, WE KIND OF

13:00:32 AGREED THAT WE SET A THRESHOLD BASED UPON WHAT THE DOCTOR'S

13:00:35 RECOMMENDATION WAS.

13:00:36 AND SPECIFICALLY, WHAT THE DOCTORS SAID WAS WE NEED TO GET

13:00:39 BELOW 5% POSITIVE REPORTING, AND BELOW 100 CASES A DAY.

13:00:45 AND WE ARE NOT THERE YET.

13:00:49 THE LAST I LOOKED WE WERE LIKE 7.9% CASES PER DAY, AND I SAW





13:00:58 300 NEW CASES PER DAY.

13:01:02 7% POSITIVE AND 380 A DAY.

13:01:07 ANYHOW, I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH MR. CITRO. WE WILL GET BACK

13:01:12 AS SOON AS WE CAN BUT FOR HEALTH REASONS WE ARE NOT THERE

13:01:15 YET.

13:01:16 AND UNLESS AND UNTIL THE GOVERNOR, I THINK FOR THE SAFETY OF

13:01:21 EVERYBODY INVOLVED, STAFF, AND THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN JUST

13:01:25 CONTINUE IT WITH STATUS QUO.

13:01:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

13:01:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

13:01:33 WE ARE ALL TRYING TO BE SAFE.

13:01:36 AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

13:01:39 BUT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING AT US SAYING, WE ARE GOING TO

13:01:43 PUBLIX, WE ARE BUYING OUR GROCERIES.

13:01:46 WE ARE SENDING OUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.

13:01:49 AGAIN, THIS CITY HAS DEALT WITH THIS IN THE BEST WAY IT

13:01:53 POSSIBLY CAN.

13:01:55 I AM JUST CONCERNED THAT WE ARE NOT LEFT IN THIS ABYSS WHERE

13:02:01 WE CAN'T GET OVER IT TO GO BACK TO OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL

13:02:05 MEETINGS.

13:02:05 I WOULD FEEL MUCH BETTER AGAIN IF WE COULD HAVE FOUR FOLKS

13:02:09 THAT THEY WILL SAY -- OR FOUR COUNCILMEN, EXCUSE ME, WILL

13:02:15 MEET IN PERSON WHEN THIS IS READY TO GO WITH ONE

13:02:17 ALTERNATIVE.

13:02:18 I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT CONTRACTED





13:02:23 THE COVID CRISIS.

13:02:25 I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR AGE.

13:02:27 BUT I WANT TO BE READY AND SET AND PREPARED TO GO FOR

13:02:32 PHYSICAL QUORUM WHEN THE TIME COMES.

13:02:34 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

13:02:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:02:37 ANYBODY ELSE?

13:02:38 >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

13:02:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

13:02:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

13:02:52 I SAID AGE IS JUST A NUMBER.

13:02:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.

13:02:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

13:03:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

13:03:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MIRANDA WILL BE THERE, TOO.

13:03:05 I KNOW THAT.

13:03:06 COUNCIL, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

13:03:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:03:09 ANYBODY ELSE?

13:03:12 I GUESS THAT'S THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.

13:03:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:03:17 WE NOW GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS BY COUNCIL

13:03:22 MEMBERS.

13:03:25 I AM GOING TO BEGIN AT THE FAR END OF THE DAIS HERE.

13:03:29 COUNCILMAN VIERA.





13:03:31 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS, SIR?

13:03:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE ONE BUT I SEEM TO HAVE

13:03:36 FORGOTTEN IT.

13:03:37 SO MAYBE THIS EVENING WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH OUR BUDGET

13:03:40 HEARING AT 4 A.M., I WILL SEND IT OUT.

13:03:43 BUT NONE FOR NOW, MR. CHAIR.

13:03:45 THANK YOU.

13:03:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. VIERA?

13:03:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR?

13:03:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.

13:03:53 BUT THE BUDGET HEARING IS AN ENTITY UNTO ITSELF. I DON'T

13:03:57 BELIEVE THERE ARE GOING TO BE ANY...

13:04:02 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

13:04:03 THAT'S FINE.

13:04:03 NOT A BIG DEAL.

13:04:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I STAND CORRECTED.

13:04:09 IT'S ON THE FINAL AGENDA AND I SEE IT THERE.

13:04:11 IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

13:04:12 I SUSPECT THAT WILL BE TAKEN UP.

13:04:16 SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

13:04:17 >>LUIS VIERA: NO WORRIES, SIR.

13:04:18 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

13:04:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT 4 A.M. COMMENT, THOUGH, I DON'T

13:04:23 KNOW.

13:04:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.





13:04:24 ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD A FEW

13:04:27 ITEMS FOR NEW BUSINESS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD, SIR.

13:04:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS RELATES TO THE PRESENT A BY MR.

13:04:39 JOHNSON, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ENTERTAIN A

13:04:42 RECOMMENDATION FOR MEETINGS AND ALSO A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT

13:04:50 THE CRITERIA AS WELL.

13:04:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

13:04:55 A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

13:05:00 BY FORM OF SUGGESTION, REALLY A RECOMMENDATION.

13:05:03 DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT?

13:05:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.

13:05:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.

13:05:09 IS THERE ANYBODY OBJECTING TO THE MOTION?

13:05:13 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.

13:05:17 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

13:05:19 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

13:05:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMISSION

13:05:23 BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET WITH THE COMMISSION, AND

13:05:29 BRING THE COMMISSION BACK AS RELATES TO THE COMMISSION.

13:05:36 I KNOW HE MADE SOME STATEMENTS PUBLICLY AND I WANT TO SEE

13:05:43 WHERE HE'S GOING.

13:05:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

13:05:46 SO THAT IS JUST A COMMENT.

13:05:49 NO MOTION.

13:05:50 NOTHING TO BE MADE.





13:05:51 ALL RIGHT.

13:05:53 THANK YOU.

13:05:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

13:05:55 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING UNDER NEW BUSINESS?

13:06:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.

13:06:05 I THINK WE ALL RECEIVED THE SAME LETTER.

13:06:07 AND I AM JUST GOING TO ASK STAFF TO LOOK INTO IT AND GIVE US

13:06:10 A REPORT. THIS GENTLEMAN NAMED FRANKLYND,

13:06:17 F-R-A-N-K-L-Y-N-D, GLINN, LOOKS LIKE AN ATTORNEY IN MIAMI,

13:06:24 AND HE SAID 40 YEARS AGO HE INVESTED IN THE CITY AND BOUGHT

13:06:26 SOME OF OUR BONDS, APPARENTLY I GUESS HE FORGOT THAT HE HAD

13:06:32 THE BONDS, AND ULTIMATELY THEY ISSUED THEM BACK TO THE CITY.

13:06:37 I THINK IT'S ABOUT $10,000.

13:06:41 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TODAY'S MONEY OR YESTERDAY'S MONEY.

13:06:44 BUT, ANYWAY, NOW HE SAYS HE CAN'T CHASE IT DOWN, THE CITY IS

13:06:49 NOT REALLY RESPONDING TO HIM FAVORABLY.

13:06:52 AND HE DOESN'T THINK IT'S FAIR BECAUSE HE INVESTED IN US AND

13:06:56 HE'S LOOKING TO GET HIS INVESTMENT BACK.

13:07:02 SO I WOULD JUST ASK -- I WILL PROVIDE THE CITY STAFF THIS

13:07:07 DOCUMENTATION, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT.

13:07:09 I WOULD ASK FOR A REPORT BACK IN A MONTH.

13:07:12 WHAT IS THAT MIDDLE OF OCTOBER MEETING?

13:07:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 15th.

13:07:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OCTOBER 15th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

13:07:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER





13:07:25 DINGFELDER.

13:07:25 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

13:07:27 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

13:07:29 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?

13:07:32 I HEAR NONE.

13:07:33 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE MOTION PASSES.

13:07:35 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

13:07:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S IT.

13:07:37 GREAT MEETING.

13:07:38 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

13:07:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:07:40 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME?

13:07:43 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, SIR.

13:07:44 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

13:07:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING

13:07:47 AT THIS TIME?

13:07:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

13:07:55 I MOVE THAT THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT APPEAR BEFORE THE

13:08:00 COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THE RATE STRUCTURES AND SUSTAINABILITY OF

13:08:07 RECYCLING WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

13:08:10 I DON'T HAVE A DATE.

13:08:13 THE FIRST DATE THAT'S POSSIBLE OR THE SOONEST DATE GIVING

13:08:17 HIM ENOUGH TIME.

13:08:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

13:08:20 WHEN DO YOU THINK?





13:08:22 WOULD IT BE OCTOBER?

13:08:24 NOVEMBER?

13:08:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MR. WILLMARK ENOUGH

13:08:31 TIME TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS.

13:08:35 NOVEMBER WOULD BE FINE, MR. CHAIR.

13:08:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOVEMBER 5th AND THERE'S NOVEMBER

13:08:41 19th.

13:08:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW ABOUT WE GO WITH NOVEMBER 5th IF

13:08:46 THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

13:08:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

13:08:49 YOU WANT IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS THEN?

13:08:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.

13:08:52 THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

13:08:53 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

13:08:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?

13:08:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.

13:09:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

13:09:02 ANY DISCUSSION OR OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?

13:09:05 I HEAR NONE.

13:09:06 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, NOVEMBER 5th.

13:09:10 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO?

13:09:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING MORE TODAY.

13:09:15 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

13:09:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

13:09:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ONE.





13:09:19 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK COUNCILMAN SONYA TO

13:09:26 WRITE A LETTER OF CONDOLENCES TO DIANE HART, TRAGIC LOSS OF

13:09:34 HER SON MICHAEL.

13:09:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?

13:09:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.

13:09:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE.

13:09:46 ALL RIGHT.

13:09:47 ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?

13:09:49 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THAT MOTION PASSES.

13:09:53 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

13:09:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.

13:09:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

13:09:57 JUST ONE LAST THING.

13:10:02 AGE IS JUST A NUMBER.

13:10:03 BUT STYROFOAM IS FOREVER.

13:10:05 REMEMBER THAT.

13:10:06 WE JUST DISCUSSED IT.

13:10:07 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:10:08 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

13:10:13 [ LAUGHTER ]

13:10:17 I GOT A LAUGH FROM ONE OF MY JOKES FINALLY.

13:10:20 CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

13:10:24 >> SO MOVED.

13:10:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

13:10:27 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?





13:10:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

13:10:30 CITRO.

13:10:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

13:10:32 IF NO OBJECTION, HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THAT'S

13:10:36 DONE.

13:10:37 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

13:10:37 AND WE WILL BE BACK AT 5:01 P.M. FOR THIS EVENING'S BUDGET

13:10:41 HEARING.

13:10:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

13:10:44 (MEETING ADJOURNED)



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