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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL EVENING SESSION
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2020
5:00 P.M.

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05:01:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
05:01:29 I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
05:01:31 ORDER.
05:01:31 IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL.
05:01:34 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:01:35 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:01:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:01:39 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:01:44 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
05:01:44 DINGFELDER?
05:01:45 CITRO.
05:01:49 >> HERE.
05:01:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:01:52 MANISCALCO?
05:01:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:01:58 MR. SHELBY.
05:01:59 YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

05:02:01 GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, MARTIN
05:02:03 SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:02:07 THIS VIRTUAL MEETING OF THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24th, 2020,
05:02:12 THIS EVENING MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, IS BEING THEY
05:02:14 WOULD ACCORDANCE WITH THE DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS OF
05:02:17 THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER 20-69 AND 20-193 AS THEY
05:02:21 MAY BE FURTHER EXTENDED.
05:02:22 AND THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED AND
05:02:25 AMENDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
05:02:27 IT IS BEING CONDUCTED BY VIDEO TELECONFERENCING WHICH IS
05:02:30 REMOTE PARTICIPATION REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA
05:02:33 AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
05:02:36 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH
05:02:39 TONIGHT, LISTEN AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV AND THE
05:02:43 INTERNET AT www.TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM.
05:02:50 NOW, THE PUBLIC HAS HAD -- HAS BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY
05:02:55 TO PARTICIPATE IN TONIGHT'S VIRTUAL QUASI-JUDICIAL AND
05:02:59 LEGISLATIVE MATTERS BY PREREGISTRATION AND ALSO BY
05:03:06 REGISTERING TO USE A CMT DEVICE, A COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA
05:03:13 TECHNOLOGY DEVICE.
05:03:14 THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE WHO DON'T HAVE A CMT CAN
05:03:19 STILL PARTICIPATE IN PERSON BY VISITING THE TAMPA
05:03:22 CONVENTION CENTER THIS EVENING.
05:03:25 COUNCIL, THE WRITTEN MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED HAS
05:03:32 BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO YOU, AND IT HAS BEEN UPLOADED TO THE

05:03:40 AGENDA FILE AT TAMPAGOV.NET/AGENDAS.
05:03:44 AND THAT IS AVAILABLE UNDER TONIGHT'S HEARING DATE FILE.
05:03:49 COUNCIL, ALL EVIDENCE BEING PRESENTED DURING THIS HEARING
05:03:58 VIRTUALLY AND ALSO WRITTEN MATERIAL HAS THE SAME EFFECT
05:04:02 FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND
05:04:05 TO WEIGH ACCORDINGLY.
05:04:07 THAT SHOULD CONCLUDE MY REMARKS, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK
05:04:10 YOU VERY MUCH.
05:04:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
05:04:13 JUST LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 9, THERE'S A
05:04:17 REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE BY THE PETITIONER.
05:04:20 YES, MA'AM, MARY.
05:04:24 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU, MR. MANISCALCO.
05:04:28 MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
05:04:29 COORDINATION.
05:04:31 ITEM NUMBER 9 ON THE AGENDA IS REZ 20-19.
05:04:39 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE
05:04:42 EVENING HEARING OF NOVEMBER 12, 2020.
05:04:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:04:47 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE CONTINUANCE?
05:04:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT TIME WAS THAT?
05:04:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOVEMBER 12, I BELIEVE.
05:04:53 IN THE EVENING SESSION, 5:01 P.M.
05:04:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ITEM NUMBER --
05:04:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.

05:05:00 5:01 OR 6 P.M.?
05:05:06 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I MYSELF THAT MEETING IS AT 6 P.M.
05:05:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 9.
05:05:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:05:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
05:05:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:05:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A
05:05:22 CONFLICT THAT YOU'D WISH TO DECLARE WITH REGARD TO ITEM
05:05:26 NUMBER 9.
05:05:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR. YES, SIR.
05:05:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE BASIS OF THAT, THAT YOU WISH TO
05:05:32 ABSTAIN IS BECAUSE YOUR FAMILY HAS PERSONAL AND FINANCIAL
05:05:38 RELATIONSHIPS OVER THE YEARS WITH THE -- AND YOU WISH TO
05:05:42 NOT PARTICIPATE TO ASSURE THE APPEARANCE OF A FAIR
05:05:47 IMPARTIAL PROCEEDING, IS THAT CORRECT?
05:05:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
05:05:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WILL BE FILING THE APPROPRIATE
05:05:52 PAPERWORK AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
05:05:54 THANK YOU.
05:05:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT.
05:05:55 WE HAD A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND
05:05:58 FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, I BELIEVE.
05:06:00 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION TO CONTINUE?
05:06:02 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT --
05:06:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK YOU'LL NEED A ROLL-CALL VOTE ON

05:06:10 THAT, SIR.
05:06:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S TAKE A ROLL-CALL VOTE.
05:06:12 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:06:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:06:17 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?
05:06:18 DINGFELDER?
05:06:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:06:21 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
05:06:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:06:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:06:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:06:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:06:28 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES ABSTAINING.
05:06:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY?
05:06:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:06:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 21, I WILL BE ABSTAINING.
05:06:39 I ALREADY FILED THE PAPERWORK.
05:06:41 I HAVE A TRUST THAT I MANAGE HOUSE WITHIN 250 FEET.
05:06:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
05:06:48 UNDERSTOOD.
05:06:48 ANYBODY ELSE?
05:06:48 ALL RIGHT.
05:06:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 12.
05:07:05 I HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THAT.
05:07:08 I THINK I NOTIFIED YOU, MR. SHELBY.

05:07:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 12.
05:07:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON TWIGGS STREET?
05:07:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWIGGS STREET?
05:07:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 12.
05:07:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE BASIS FOR YOUR CONFLICT, SIR, IS?
05:07:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PERSONAL CONFLICT.
05:07:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THIS MATTER
05:07:30 BEING VOTED ON, SIR, IF I CAN ASK?
05:07:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PERSONAL FRIEND AND BENEFACTOR OF A LOT
05:07:37 OF OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND CHARITIES.
05:07:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS YOUR POSITION THAT YOU ARE
05:07:42 ABSTAINING TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF
05:07:45 INTEREST.
05:07:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:07:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO ENSURE A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL
05:07:49 PROCEEDING.
05:07:49 WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU ALSO FILE IN THAT CASE AS WELL.
05:07:52 THANK YOU.
05:07:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
05:07:53 OKAY.
05:07:59 GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
05:08:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:08:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:08:06 WHO IS GOING TO SECOND THAT?
05:08:08 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA.

05:08:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA WITH THE SECOND.
05:08:10 ANY OBJECTION?
05:08:11 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
05:08:13 ARE OPEN.
05:08:14 MARY SAMANIEGO.
05:08:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 7, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
05:08:20 AMENDMENT IS FOR THE SAME SITE AS THE REZONING, WHICH IS
05:08:23 ITEM NUMBER 22.
05:08:24 HISTORICALLY IN THE PAST, CITY COUNCIL HAS HEARD THE TWO
05:08:28 ITEMS TOGETHER.
05:08:28 I'M JUST BRINGING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AS POSSIBLE
05:08:33 REORGANIZATION OF YOUR SCHEDULE, OR YOUR AGENDA.
05:08:37 7 AND 22.
05:08:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 22 IS IN THE 6:00 HOUR.
05:08:44 WE'LL TAKE THAT UP AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT WE'LL
05:08:46 TAKE THEM TOGETHER.
05:08:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
05:08:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:08:48 WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:08:50 WE HAVE MR. DAVID HEY.
05:08:53 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
05:08:55 DAVID HEY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:08:57 THE NEXT ITEMS, WE HAVE SEVEN PARKS THIS EVENING, AND WE
05:09:01 HAVE THAT ONE PRIVATE AMENDMENT THAT YOU'VE JUST MOVED
05:09:07 TOWARD YOUR 6 P.M. HEARING.

05:09:10 SIX OF THE PARKS ARE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
05:09:15 THE SEVENTH PARK WILL BE FOR TRANSMITTAL.
05:09:19 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
05:09:21 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
05:09:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN SEE IT NOW.
05:09:49 >>DAVID HEY: ALL RIGHT.
05:09:50 TA/CPA 20-11 BASICALLY THROUGH 20-17.
05:09:56 WE HAVE SEVEN PARKS THIS EVENING.
05:09:59 THESE ARE THE SEVEN.
05:10:01 GRANT PARK, WILLIAMS PARK, SUNSET PARK, OAKLAWN CEMETERY,
05:10:08 PATTERSON STREET PARK, PARK CIRCLE PARK, AND PURITY
05:10:11 SPRINGS PARK.
05:10:12 ALL THESE ARE INITIATED BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
05:10:19 WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH THE LIST OF PARKS.
05:10:22 EACH PARK IS ON THE DEDICATED PARK LIST IN CHAPTER 16,
05:10:27 SECTION 91, AND ALL SITES WOULD GO TO THAT RECREATION
05:10:30 OPEN SPACE.
05:10:31 OF COURSE, WE'VE SENT THESE TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES, AND
05:10:38 NONE OF THEM HAD ANY CONCERNS WITH ANY OF THE REQUESTS.
05:10:45 AGAIN, ALL OF THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR RECREATION
05:10:50 OPEN SPACE AND LAND USE POLICIES, AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE
05:10:54 FURTHER PROTECTIONS TO THE CITY'S DEDICATED PARKS.
05:10:58 THE FIRST ONE UP THIS EVENING IS TA CPA 20-11.
05:11:03 IT IS GRANT PARK.
05:11:05 IT IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND MORE

05:11:08 SPECIFICALLY THE GRANT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:11:10 HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL.
05:11:11 YOU CAN SEE THE PARK IS OUTLINED IN RED.
05:11:15 WE'VE GOT EAST 32nd AVENUE.
05:11:17 WEST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD IS ONE BLOCK TO
05:11:20 THE NORTH.
05:11:21 IT'S BOUNDED ON NORTH 53rd STREET ON THE WEST, NORTH
05:11:25 54th STREET ON THE EAST, AND YOU COULD SEE THE
05:11:29 PREDOMINANTLY GRANT PARK IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY
05:11:33 DETACHED.
05:11:34 HERE WE HAVE A FEW PICTURES.
05:11:36 WE'RE LOOKING SOUTHEAST ACROSS GRANT PARK, NEAR THE
05:11:39 INTERSECTION OF EAST 32nd AND NORTH 53rd.
05:11:43 NOW WE'RE LOOKING DOWN NORTH 53rd STREET.
05:11:46 GRANT PARK IS OVER HERE ON THE LEFT.
05:11:48 AND HERE WE'RE JUST IN THE PARK BASICALLY AT THE
05:11:52 INTERSECTION OF EAST 32nd AND NORTH 54th STREET.
05:11:55 HERE WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:11:59 IT'S RESIDENTIAL 20 NOW.
05:12:01 IF IT'S APPROVED, IT WOULD GO TO THE RECREATION OPEN
05:12:04 SPACE.
05:12:06 THIS AREA IN THE GOLD, THAT'S UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH
05:12:09 COUNTY.
05:12:09 THIS WOULD REMOVE THE POTENTIAL FOR 62 DWELLING UNITS OR
05:12:14 A MAXIMUM OF 61 -- 68,000 SQUARE FEET.

05:12:19 AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT TA/CPA 20-11
05:12:25 BE FOUND CONSISTENT.
05:12:26 THANK YOU.
05:12:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:12:29 ANY QUESTIONS?
05:12:30 ALL RIGHT.
05:12:34 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
05:12:36 ON THIS ITEM?
05:12:37 DO WE HAVE A MOTION -- WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
05:12:49 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:12:50 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:12:52 ANY OBJECTION?
05:12:52 ALL RIGHT.
05:12:54 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT AND WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, THE
05:12:58 HEARING IS CLOSED.
05:12:59 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING NUMBER 1?
05:13:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
05:13:03 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
05:13:08 CONSIDERATION.
05:13:09 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA
05:13:13 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND
05:13:16 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3724 NORTH
05:13:20 54th STREET, AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS GRANT PARK FROM
05:13:25 RESIDENTIAL-20 (R-20) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS);
05:13:32 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;

05:13:35 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:13:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
05:13:41 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
05:13:42 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:13:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:13:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:13:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:13:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:13:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:13:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:13:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:13:57 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:13:58 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER
05:14:01 22nd AT 5:01 P.M.
05:14:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:14:03 MR. HEY, NUMBER TWO.
05:14:06 >>DAVID HEY: DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:14:08 NUMBER 2 IS TA/CPA 20-13.
05:14:12 IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE SUNSET PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE
05:14:16 SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:14:19 ALL THE SAME RECREATION OPEN SPACE POLICIES APPLY TO THIS
05:14:24 ONE.
05:14:25 HERE WE CAN SEE THE SITE -- THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE IS
05:14:28 TAKEN UP BY LAKE KIPLING, BUT THERE IS SOME UPLANDS ON
05:14:32 THE EDGES.

05:14:33 THIS IS WEST BROWNING AVENUE.
05:14:36 WESTSHORE.
05:14:37 THIS IS WHERE WESTSHORE WORKS ITS WAY UP NORTH AND THEN
05:14:41 WEST SUNSET BOULEVARD ON THE NORTHSIDE.
05:14:44 HERE WE'RE LOOKING SOUTHWEST FROM THE INTERSECTION OF
05:14:46 SOUTH WESTSHORE AND WEST SUNSET AVENUE.
05:14:49 THIS IS LAKE KIPLING AND THE UPLANDS OVER HERE ON THE
05:14:52 RIGHT.
05:14:54 HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW.
05:14:57 WE'RE LOOKING DOWN SOUTH PARKVIEW STREET.
05:14:57 AGAIN, THIS IS ALL THE PARK ON THE LEFT.
05:15:00 HERE WE'RE LOOKING WEST DOWN WEST SUNSET BOULEVARD.
05:15:04 AGAIN, THE PARK ON THE LEFT.
05:15:05 IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT THIS PROPERTY AND ALL THE
05:15:10 PROPERTIES AROUND IT ARE THAT YELLOW COLOR, WHICH IS THE
05:15:13 RESIDENTIAL 6.
05:15:15 AND IF APPROVED, IT WOULD CHANGE THE UPLAND PORTIONS OF
05:15:21 THIS PARK TO REC OPEN SPACE CATEGORY.
05:15:28 THE MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR THE SITE IS 15
05:15:31 UNITS OR 39,000 SQUARE FEET.
05:15:33 OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE LESS WITH LAKE KIPLING TAKING
05:15:38 INTO CONSIDERATION.
05:15:42 AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT TA/CPA 20-13
05:15:49 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
05:15:52 POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

05:15:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:15:56 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:15:57 HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
05:16:01 TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 2?
05:16:04 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:16:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:16:07 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
05:16:09 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM
05:16:12 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:16:14 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
05:16:15 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT ANY
05:16:17 OBJECTION, THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
05:16:19 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND READING ON
05:16:22 ITEM NUMBER 2.
05:16:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:16:25 PA 20-13, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
05:16:29 CONSIDERATION.
05:16:30 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
05:16:34 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR
05:16:36 THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 4800 WEST SUNSET
05:16:39 BOULEVARD AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SUNSET PARK FROM
05:16:42 RESIDENTIAL-6 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE; PROVIDING FOR
05:16:46 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
05:16:49 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:16:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

05:16:53 GUDES.
05:16:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:16:56 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
05:16:57 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:16:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:17:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:17:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:17:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:17:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:17:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:17:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:17:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:17:15 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OCTOBER 22 AT 5:01 P.M.
05:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:17:19 MR. HEY, ITEM NUMBER 3.
05:17:21 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
05:17:22 DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:17:24 THE NEXT ITEM IS TA/CPA 20-14.
05:17:28 THIS IS OAKLAWN CEMETERY.
05:17:31 IT'S IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND MORE
05:17:34 SPECIFICALLY THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
05:17:36 HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:17:39 WE'VE GOT EAST HARRISON ON THE SOUTH.
05:17:42 THIS IS THE MARION TRANSIT CENTER JUST TO THE NORTHWEST.
05:17:47 OF COURSE, YOU'VE GOT THE INTERSTATE AND THEN NORTH

05:17:50 ORANGE AVENUE TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:17:53 THIS NORTHERN PIECE UP HERE IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE
05:17:57 DIOCESE OF ST. PETE, SO IT'S A PRIVATE PORTION OF THE
05:18:01 CEMETERY.
05:18:01 SO ONLY PUBLIC PORTION IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.
05:18:06 HERE WE'RE LOOKING NORTHEAST ACROSS OAKLAWN CEMETERY.
05:18:09 THIS IS FROM THE EAST HARRISON STREET ENTRANCE.
05:18:11 HERE, WE'RE LOOKING NORTHEAST FROM OAKLAWN CEMETERY
05:18:16 TOWARD THE ADJACENT GREATER BETH-EL MISSIONARY BAPTIST
05:18:20 CHURCH.
05:18:21 AND THEN HERE, WE'RE IN THE CEMETERY LOOKING AT THE
05:18:24 ADJACENT MARION TRANSIT CENTER AND THE MULTIFAMILY
05:18:28 HOUSING.
05:18:31 THIS PORTION OF THE CITY ALL HAS THAT CENTRAL BUSINESS
05:18:34 DISTRICT DESIGNATION, AND THEN YOU DO HAVE SOME REC OPEN
05:18:41 SPACE EXISTING FURTHER TO THE EAST.
05:18:44 THIS WOULD BRING THAT UNDER THAT REC OPEN SPACE CATEGORY.
05:18:50 SINCE IT'S CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, THERE ARE NO CAPS,
05:18:56 NO FLOOR AREA RATIO OR UNIT COUNT CAPS, SO BASICALLY, IT
05:19:04 WOULD NOW -- ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO BE OPEN SPACE
05:19:07 OR RECREATIONAL ORIENTED.
05:19:09 PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT TA/CPA 20-14 BE FOUND
05:19:18 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF
05:19:19 THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:19:22 THANK YOU.

05:19:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:19:23 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:19:24 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:19:28 THIS ITEM?
05:19:28 ITEM NUMBER 3?
05:19:30 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:19:34 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:19:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
05:19:36 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:19:37 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:19:39 ANY OBJECTION?
05:19:39 HEARING NONE -- WELL, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS
05:19:43 CONSENT, THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
05:19:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND READING ITEM
05:19:49 NUMBER 3.
05:19:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
05:19:54 IN REGARD TO FILE PA 20-14, I MOVE THE FOLLOWING FOR
05:20:04 FIRST READING.
05:20:04 ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE
05:20:07 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT,
05:20:10 FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
05:20:14 AT 606 EAST HARRISON STREET, AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
05:20:18 OAKLAWN CEMETERY FROM CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT (CBD) TO
05:20:23 RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
05:20:28 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;

05:20:30 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:20:32 AND IT'S AN INTERESTING CATEGORY FOR A CEMETERY.
05:20:36 THANK YOU.
05:20:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT IS.
05:20:39 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:20:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:20:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
05:20:42 MIRANDA.
05:20:44 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
05:20:44 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:20:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:20:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:20:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:20:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:20:52 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:20:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:20:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:20:58 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:21:00 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22 AT
05:21:04 5:01 P.M.
05:21:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:21:06 NEXT UP, MR. HEY, ITEM NUMBER 4.
05:21:10 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
05:21:12 DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:21:13 THE NEXT ITEM IS TA/CPA 20-15.

05:21:17 IT'S PATTERSON STREET PARK.
05:21:19 IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
05:21:21 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
05:21:23 NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:21:24 HERE WE HAVE THE PARK OUTLINED IN RED.
05:21:28 WE'VE GOT EAST PATTERSON STREET ON THE SOUTH.
05:21:30 IT ACTUALLY RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH HERE.
05:21:33 THIS IS THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
05:21:36 THIS IS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR BLOCKS EAST OF NORTH NEBRASKA
05:21:41 AVENUE, BACK IN THIS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
05:21:46 NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:21:46 HERE WE HAVE A FEW PICTURES.
05:21:48 WE'RE LOOKING NORTHWEST ACROSS A PORTION OF PATTERSON
05:21:51 STREET PARK TOWARD HAMILTON HEATH DRIVE.
05:21:56 THERE IS A STREAM OR A BROOK THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE
05:21:59 MIDDLE OF THE PARK.
05:22:01 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM PATTERSON STREET PARK.
05:22:04 THIS IS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
05:22:09 HERE, WE'RE IN THE PARK LOOKING DOWN THE HILLSBOROUGH
05:22:11 RIVER.
05:22:14 HERE WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:22:17 YOU COULD SEE ALL THESE PROPERTIES IN THIS KIND OF TAN
05:22:20 COLOR, THAT RESIDENTIAL 10.
05:22:22 THERE IS SOME REC OPEN SPACE FURTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
05:22:25 THE RIVER.

05:22:27 THIS WOULD BRING THE PARK INTO THAT REC OPEN SPACE.
05:22:32 IT POTENTIALLY REMOVES CONSIDERATION FOR NINE UNITS WITH
05:22:36 14,941 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
05:22:40 ALL USES WOULD NOW HAVE TO BE REC OR OPEN SPACE ORIENTED.
05:22:45 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND THAT TA/CPA
05:22:49 20-15 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
05:22:52 POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:22:55 THANK YOU.
05:22:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:22:56 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
05:22:58 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
05:23:01 WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?
05:23:03 >>THE CLERK: NO.
05:23:05 WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTERED PERSONS TO SPEAK ON
05:23:07 THIS ITEM.
05:23:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
05:23:12 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:23:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
05:23:14 MIRANDA.
05:23:15 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:23:16 ANY OBJECTION?
05:23:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE YOU CLOSE, CHAIRMAN.
05:23:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH.
05:23:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DAVID, I WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR
05:23:24 DOING ALL OF THESE.

05:23:26 IT'S FUNNY, THESE ARE LITTLE POCKET PARKS THAT I THINK
05:23:29 MANY OF US WOULD NEVER EVEN KNOW THEY EXIST.
05:23:33 LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD POCKET PARKS THAT ARE REALLY
05:23:36 BEAUTIFUL AND REALLY VALUABLE.
05:23:37 THIS ONE REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE BEING DOWN THERE ON THE
05:23:41 RIVER AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:23:43 I'M SURE THE TEN BLOCKS OF FOLKS WHO LIVE AROUND IT
05:23:46 PROBABLY USE IT ALL THE TIME.
05:23:47 ANYWAY, I'M GLAD THEY ARE THERE, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE
05:23:51 PROTECTING IT.
05:23:52 >>DAVID HEY: COUNCILMAN, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN KIND OF NICE
05:23:57 WITH ALL THE COVID GOING ON TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO OUT
05:24:00 AND TAKE PHOTOS IN SOME OF THESE PARKS TO GET OUT.
05:24:03 BUT I WILL SAY THIS PARK, THERE WERE NUMEROUS PEOPLE IN
05:24:05 THIS SMALL PARK EVEN WHEN I WAS THERE.
05:24:10 YEAH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SITE ON THE RIVER.
05:24:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:24:16 ANY OBJECTION TO CLOSING THE HEARING?
05:24:19 HEARING NONE, THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
05:24:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE READ
05:24:23 NUMBER 4.
05:24:25 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:24:26 FILE NUMBER -- I'D LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER PA 20-15,
05:24:31 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
05:24:34 CONSIDERATION.

05:24:35 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
05:24:38 PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
05:24:41 PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1018 EAST PATTERSON STREET
05:24:44 AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PATTERSON STREET PARK FROM
05:24:48 RESIDENTIAL-10 (R-10) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS);
05:24:54 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;
05:24:57 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:25:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:25:02 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
05:25:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:25:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:25:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:25:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:25:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:25:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:25:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:25:14 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:25:17 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER
05:25:19 22nd AT 5:01.
05:25:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:25:22 ITEM NUMBER 5, MR. HEY.
05:25:23 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
05:25:25 DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:25:27 THE NEXT ITEM IS TA/CPA 20-16.
05:25:30 IT'S PARK CIRCLE PARK.

05:25:33 IT'S IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, AGAIN IN THE
05:25:36 OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:25:37 IT'S ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE LAST PARK THAT WE JUST
05:25:41 LOOKED AT.
05:25:45 HERE'S THE PARK.
05:25:46 IT'S BASICALLY ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
05:25:52 THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:25:54 IT DOES HAVE ACCESS TO THE RIVER.
05:25:56 THIS IS WHERE PATTERSON STREET PARK IS OVER, SO IT'S JUST
05:25:59 TO THE EAST OF WHAT WE JUST SAW.
05:26:04 AGAIN, HERE WE'RE LOOKING -- THIS IS THE ENTIRE PARK.
05:26:08 IT'S JUST A POCKET PARK RIGHT ON THE RIVER, BUT I WAS
05:26:11 THERE, A WOMAN WAS LAUNCHING HER CANOE INTO THE
05:26:14 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
05:26:17 THIS IS ACTUALLY -- I'M STANDING AT THE FRONT OF THE PARK
05:26:23 LOOKING OUT TOWARD THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:26:25 THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THIS LARGE GREENSPACE RIGHT IN THE
05:26:28 CENTER OF THE ROAD, TOO.
05:26:30 AND THIS IS SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL THAT FACES -- IT'S
05:26:34 ACTUALLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PARK.
05:26:38 AGAIN, JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE, THIS PARCEL IS RESIDENTIAL
05:26:42 10.
05:26:43 IT WOULD GO TO THAT REC OPEN SPACE CATEGORY.
05:26:48 THE SITE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR TWO UNITS OR UP TO 3,000
05:26:53 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL.

05:26:55 THAT WOULD NOW BE REMOVED.
05:26:58 BASED ON THAT, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT
05:27:01 TA/CPA 20-16 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,
05:27:05 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:27:08 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:27:08 THANK YOU.
05:27:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:27:11 ANY QUESTIONS?
05:27:11 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:27:15 ITEM NUMBER 5?
05:27:16 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:27:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:27:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
05:27:22 MIRANDA.
05:27:23 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
05:27:25 ANY OBJECTION?
05:27:25 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS
05:27:29 CLOSED.
05:27:31 COUNCILMAN CITRO, IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND READING NUMBER 5.
05:27:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:27:35 FILE PA 20-16, AN ORDINANCE TO BE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
05:27:39 READING CONSIDERATION.
05:27:40 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:27:44 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND
05:27:47 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1208 EAST

05:27:52 PARK CIRCLE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PARK CIRCLE PARK, FROM
05:28:00 RESIDENTIAL-10 (R-10) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS);
05:28:08 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;
05:28:11 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
05:28:14 DATE.
05:28:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
05:28:17 CITRO.
05:28:18 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:28:19 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
05:28:23 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
05:28:24 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:28:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:28:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:28:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:28:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:28:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:28:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:28:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:28:38 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:28:40 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER
05:28:43 22nd AT 5:01 P.M.
05:28:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:28:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:28:46 MR. HEY, ITEM NUMBER 6.
05:28:48 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

05:28:50 DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:28:51 THE NEXT ITEM IS TA/CPA 20-17.
05:28:56 THIS IS PURITY SPRINGS PARK.
05:28:58 IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT AND
05:29:01 MORE SPECIFICALLY THE LOWRY PARK CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:29:05 HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:29:08 AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE ADJACENT TO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
05:29:11 THIS ONE IS JUST SEPARATED FROM THE RIVER BY NORTH RIVER
05:29:15 SHORE DRIVE.
05:29:18 YOU CAN SEE IT'S KIND OF IN A TRANSITIONAL AREA.
05:29:21 YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH.
05:29:22 THEN AS YOU MOVE WEST, IT GOES DOWN TO SINGLE-FAMILY
05:29:26 DETACHED.
05:29:27 AND, OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST WEST OF NORTH FLORIDA
05:29:30 AVENUE.
05:29:30 YOU CAN JUST MAKE OUT THE TOWER, THE RIVER TOWER THERE TO
05:29:36 THE EAST.
05:29:37 HERE, WE'RE LOOKING WEST FROM NORTH RIVER SHORE DRIVE
05:29:42 ACROSS A PORTION OF PURITY SPRINGS PARK.
05:29:44 THIS IS THE ADJACENT SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:29:48 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SPRING.
05:29:50 THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE USING THE SPRING.
05:29:54 IT WAS FLOWING.
05:29:55 THIS WE'RE LOOKING NORTHWEST FROM NORTH RIVER SHORE
05:29:58 DRIVE.

05:29:59 AND THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARK ALONG THE
05:30:03 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
05:30:04 ONE INTERESTING THING WE FOUND OUT DURING THIS WAS I
05:30:07 GUESS THERE WAS A PURITY SPRINGS BOTTLING COMPANY THAT
05:30:11 ACTUALLY WOULD BOTTLE THE WATER HERE AND SOLD IT FOR LIKE
05:30:14 20 OR 30 YEARS UNDER THE PURITY SPRINGS LABEL.
05:30:17 THAT WAS SOMETHING INTERESTING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS.
05:30:22 HERE WE'VE GOT THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE WAS ALREADY A
05:30:26 PUBLIC, SEMI-PUBLIC.
05:30:28 THERE WAS A PORTION IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT WAS PART
05:30:32 OF THAT RESIDENTIAL 35.
05:30:38 THIS WOULD TURN THE WHOLE PARK INTO THE REC OPEN SPACE.
05:30:43 REMOVING THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVEN UNITS OR A MAXIMUM OF
05:30:46 5,227 SQUARE FEET.
05:30:49 ALL NEW USES WOULD NEED TO BE REC OR OPEN SPACE ORIENTED.
05:30:52 AND BASED ON THAT, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS
05:30:54 THAT TA/CPA 20-17 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,
05:30:59 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:31:02 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:31:03 THANK YOU.
05:31:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:31:05 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:31:05 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:31:09 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 6?
05:31:11 >>THE CLERK: NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO

05:31:14 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:31:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:31:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
05:31:19 MIRANDA.
05:31:20 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:31:21 ANY OBJECTION?
05:31:21 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS
05:31:24 CLOSED.
05:31:25 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE READ ITEM
05:31:27 NUMBER 6.
05:31:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:31:29 MOVE ITEM 6, FILE NUMBER PA 20-17.
05:31:33 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND
05:31:36 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040
05:31:40 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE
05:31:42 LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 8126
05:31:45 NORTH RIVER SHORE DRIVE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PURITY
05:31:49 SPRINGS PARK FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC (P/SP) AND
05:31:55 RESIDENTIAL-35 (R-35) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS);
05:32:03 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;
05:32:05 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:32:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:32:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
05:32:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
05:32:14 ROLL-CALL VOTE.

05:32:15 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:32:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:32:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:32:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:32:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:32:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:32:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:32:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:32:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:32:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER
05:32:33 22nd AT 5:01 P.M.
05:32:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:32:37 MR. HEY, WE HAVE 7 AND 22 COMING IN TOGETHER.
05:32:40 WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT 7?
05:32:44 WE WON'T VOTE ON IT.
05:32:47 >>DAVID HEY: I THINK JENNIFER MALONE WAS GOING TO PRESENT
05:32:50 THAT ONE.
05:32:51 SO MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST DO IT LATER.
05:32:54 WELL, SHE'S HERE NOW.
05:32:56 IT'S WHATEVER UP TO COUNCIL HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO --
05:32:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
05:33:00 22 IS AFTER 6 P.M.
05:33:01 WE CAN'T GET TO IT.
05:33:04 AT LEAST WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND GET IT OUT OF
05:33:06 THE WAY BUT NOT VOTING ON IT YET.

05:33:08 ITEM NUMBER 7, MS. MALONE.
05:33:16 >> ITEM 7 --
05:33:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU NOT TAKING THEM TOGETHER OR ARE
05:33:19 YOU?
05:33:19 ARE YOU TAKING THEM SEPARATELY?
05:33:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOING TO HEAR IT NOW BECAUSE THE
05:33:24 OTHER ONE WE CAN'T HEAR UNTIL 6 SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO
05:33:27 WAIT THE WHOLE TIME.
05:33:28 WHAT DO YOU THINK, SIR?
05:33:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, YOU INDICATED EARLY ON IN THE
05:33:32 MEETING THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE THEM TOGETHER.
05:33:34 I THINK WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
05:33:37 IT'S UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:33:40 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PETITIONER WAS TOLD UP FRONT.
05:33:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- ARE YOU
05:33:45 GOING TO STAY UNTIL THE END OF THIS MEETING BECAUSE IT'S
05:33:49 ALMOST THE LAST ITEM.
05:33:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
05:33:51 YOU CAN MOVE 22 UP TO 6:00.
05:33:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
05:33:56 LET'S DO THAT.
05:33:57 WE'LL HOLD OFF ON 7 AND WAIT UNTIL THE 6:00 HOUR.
05:34:01 WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 8.
05:34:03 I APOLOGIZE.
05:34:08 >>DAVID HEY: CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN, PLEASE?

05:34:12 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:34:18 HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN.
05:34:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
05:34:22 GO AHEAD.
05:34:25 >>DAVID HEY: THIS IS THE LAST PARK FOR THIS ROUND.
05:34:27 THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING.
05:34:30 THIS ITEM IS TA/CPA 20-12.
05:34:34 IT'S WILLIAMS PARK.
05:34:35 IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
05:34:39 MORE SPECIFICALLY THE EASTERN HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:34:46 HERE WE HAVE THE ENTIRE PARK.
05:34:48 THIS IS EAST OSBORNE AVENUE.
05:34:51 THERE ARE TWO SCHOOLS JUST TO THE NORTH.
05:34:56 THIS IS EAST OF NORTH 40th STREET.
05:34:58 IT'S SOUTH OF EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, AND THEN YOU'VE
05:35:02 GOT CSX RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT IS KIND OF ON ITS
05:35:06 EASTERN BOUNDARY.
05:35:08 HERE WE'RE LOOKING NORTHEAST FROM EAST ELLICOTT STREET
05:35:12 TOWARD WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL.
05:35:13 THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE PARK THAT'S ACTUALLY CHANGING
05:35:18 TO THE REC OPEN SPACE.
05:35:21 THIS IS THE MAIN PART OF THE PARK.
05:35:23 IT ALREADY IS REC OPEN SPACE.
05:35:26 THIS IS LOOKING WEST TOWARD NORTH 43rd STREET ACROSS
05:35:30 WILLIAMS PARK.

05:35:32 THE SITE WE WERE LOOKING AT IS BEHIND US TO THE RIGHT.
05:35:35 HERE WE HAVE THE POOL AND RECREATION FACILITIES IN THIS
05:35:42 PARK.
05:35:44 SO AS I WAS SAYING, YOU COULD SEE THE SOUTHERN MAJORITY
05:35:49 OF THE PARK IS ALREADY THAT REC OPEN SPACE.
05:35:54 THERE IS SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL REMAINING ON THE NORTH
05:35:59 SIDE.
05:35:59 THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE PARK.
05:36:01 I THINK IT'S MORE OF A RETENTION AREA.
05:36:04 IT'S NOT AN ACTIVE PART OF THE PARK.
05:36:06 BUT YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SURROUNDED BY A SINGLE-FAMILY
05:36:09 DETACHED ON TWO SIDES.
05:36:11 AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS SHOWING AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO
05:36:14 THE NORTH, IT'S ACTUALLY THE SCHOOL.
05:36:17 AND THIS IS A VACANT LOT TO THE EAST.
05:36:19 IF THIS AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, THE WHOLE PARK WOULD NOW
05:36:25 BE REC OPEN SPACE.
05:36:28 SO BASED ON THE PORTION THAT WAS THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, NO
05:36:33 RESIDENTIAL CAN BE CONSIDERED, BUT 79,000 SQUARE FEET OF
05:36:37 NONRESIDENTIAL COULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED IN THAT
05:36:39 PORTION.
05:36:40 NOW ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO BE REC OPEN SPACE
05:36:44 ORIENTED.
05:36:46 AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND THAT TA/CPA
05:36:51 20-12 BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND

05:36:54 POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:36:58 THANK YOU.
05:36:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:36:59 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:37:03 ITEM NUMBER 8?
05:37:05 >>THE CLERK: WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON
05:37:07 THIS ITEM.
05:37:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:37:10 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
05:37:12 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:37:15 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:37:18 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
05:37:19 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS
05:37:22 CLOSED.
05:37:22 I BELIEVE I JUST NEED A MOTION TO TRANSMIT THE PUBLIC
05:37:25 HEARING.
05:37:26 >> SO MOVED.
05:37:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:37:30 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:37:32 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
05:37:35 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
05:37:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:37:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:37:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:37:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

05:37:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:37:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:37:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:37:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:37:52 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
05:38:00 THANK YOU, SIR.
05:38:00 I ALWAYS JUST LIKE TO WHENEVER WE GO OVER THESE TO GIVE A
05:38:04 PUBLIC SHOUT-OUT TO MY FRIEND, OUR FRIEND, OUR FORMER
05:38:06 COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN MIKE SUAREZ WHO CHAMPIONED THESE
05:38:11 PLANS.
05:38:11 I THINK IT TOOK A LOT OF FORESIGHT AND JUST REFLECTS THE
05:38:16 KIND OF INDIVIDUAL, THE KIND OF PUBLIC SERVANT THAT
05:38:20 COUNCILMAN SUAREZ IS.
05:38:21 I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MIKE A SHOUT-OUT.
05:38:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:38:25 ALL RIGHT.
05:38:26 ITEM NUMBER 9 WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF AND WE
05:38:29 CONTINUED IT.
05:38:30 SO WE GO TO THE FIRST REZONING, AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER
05:38:34 10.
05:38:34 I SEE MR. MANASSE ON.
05:38:37 IF WE COULD GET THE APPLICANT TO TURN ON THEIR CAMERA SO
05:38:40 WE CAN SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.
05:38:41 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, COULD WE SKIP TO THE NEXT ITEM
05:38:44 BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTIES HAVING THE APPLICANT

05:38:46 AND THE REPRESENTATIVE SIGN ON.
05:38:49 THEY ARE WORKING WITH THEM AS WE SPEAK.
05:38:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, THEN WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 11,
05:38:55 MR. MICHELINI, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR
05:39:01 CAMERA AND WE'LL HAVE EVERYBODY SWORN IN.
05:39:03 WE HEAR YOU BUT WE DON'T SEE YOU.
05:39:22 >> OKAY.
05:39:23 HOW ABOUT NOW?
05:39:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN SEE YOU.
05:39:25 ALL RIGHT.
05:39:26 WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
05:39:27 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
05:39:29 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WOULD TELL THE TRUTH, THE
05:39:31 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
05:39:33 >> I DO.
05:39:34 >> I DO.
05:39:34 >>THE CLERK: WE DID NOT RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS
05:39:38 ITEM.
05:39:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:39:41 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE WITH PLANNING AND
05:39:44 DEVELOPMENT.
05:39:45 ITEM 11, FILE REZ 20-36, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 604 CHANNEL
05:39:49 DRIVE.
05:39:50 THEY ARE REQUESTING TO GO FROM RS 60 RESIDENTIAL
05:39:54 SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS 50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50.

05:39:57 I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR
05:39:59 PRESENTATION AND PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
05:40:06 >> DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:40:09 CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
05:40:11 AGAIN, THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:40:21 STAFF.
05:40:21 I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
05:40:23 OUR FIRST CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
05:40:27 MORE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE DAVIS ISLANDS URBAN VILLAGE.
05:40:31 THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
05:40:33 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS DAVIS ISLANDS
05:40:37 PARK, WHICH IS WITHIN A HALF A MILE TO THE NORTH OF THE
05:40:40 SUBJECT SITE.
05:40:40 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN PROXIMITY TO
05:40:43 TRANSIT AND THE SITE IS LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE.
05:40:47 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:40:52 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN PURPLISH COLOR.
05:40:57 THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY, AND
05:41:01 THIS IS CHANNEL DRIVE.
05:41:03 RUNNING ALONG THE WATER, AND THIS IS CAYUGA AVENUE.
05:41:10 HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:41:13 THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE
05:41:16 LAND USE DESIGNATION, WHICH ALLOWS TEN DWELLING UNITS PER
05:41:19 ACRE.
05:41:20 IT'S SHOWN -- IT'S REPRESENTED BY THIS TAN COLOR JUST TO

05:41:24 THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 20.
05:41:29 20 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
05:41:35 REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:41:37 DEVELOPMENT WITHIN SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS AND WITHIN THE
05:41:40 URBAN VILLAGES.
05:41:41 THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE INFILL DEVELOPMENT
05:41:44 WITHIN AN AREA PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT UP TO TEN DWELLING
05:41:47 UNITS PER ACRE.
05:41:48 THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING
05:41:52 OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE DAVIS ISLANDS URBAN VILLAGE.
05:41:55 THE URBAN VILLAGE IS OUR AREA WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE
05:42:00 PLAN.
05:42:01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DIRECTS THE GREATEST SHARE OF GROWTH.
05:42:05 THE SITE IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
05:42:08 STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT ENSURES THAT THERE
05:42:10 WILL BE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE HURRICANE EVACUATION.
05:42:15 ROUTES, SHELTER DEMANDS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE PROPOSED
05:42:18 DEVELOPMENT AND TO MITIGATE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT MAY
05:42:22 AFFECT OCCUPANTS OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE FUTURE.
05:42:26 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:42:29 STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
05:42:32 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:42:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
05:42:35 GENTLEMAN?
05:42:36 ALL RIGHT.

05:42:41 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING DESIGN AND
05:42:43 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:42:45 IF YOU COULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
05:42:47 LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE REZONING 20-36.
05:42:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO.
05:42:56 GO AHEAD.
05:42:56 >>RYAN MANASSE: EXCELLENT.
05:42:57 THE PETITION AGAIN BEFORE YOU IS FILE NUMBER -- ITEM
05:42:59 NUMBER 11, FILE REZ 20-36.
05:43:02 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 604
05:43:06 CHANNEL DRIVE FROM RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO
05:43:09 RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
05:43:11 THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY INCLUDES TWO PLATTED LOTS, LOTS 12
05:43:14 AND 13 ON BLOCK 110 OF THE DAVIS ISLANDS COUNTRY CLUB
05:43:17 SECTION.
05:43:18 LOT 12 IS IRREGULARLY SHAPED AND MEASURES APPROXIMATELY
05:43:21 60 FEET IN WIDTH WITH 110 FEET IN LENGTH, CONTAINING A
05:43:24 TOTAL LOT AREA OF 6600 SQUARE FEET.
05:43:27 LOT 13 IS IRREGULAR SHAPED AS WELL AND MEASURES
05:43:32 APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET IN WIDTH AND 107 FEET IN LENGTH
05:43:35 CONTAINING A TOTAL AREA OF 5,350 SQUARE FEET.
05:43:38 THE TOTAL COMBINED AREA FOR BOTH THE LOTS IS
05:43:40 APPROXIMATELY 11,950 SQUARE FEET.
05:43:43 THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
05:43:46 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, AND IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST

05:43:49 CORNER OF THE CHANNEL DRIVE AND EAST CAYUGA AVENUE
05:43:53 INTERSECTION.
05:43:54 SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS TO THE
05:43:57 NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST IN THE RS-60 ZONING DISTRICTS AND
05:44:01 RIGHT-OF-WAY OR THE WATER TO THE EAST.
05:44:03 THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL CITY OF TAMPA LAND
05:44:05 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
05:44:08 THIS BEING A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, WAIVERS ARE NOT
05:44:11 PERMITTED TO BE REQUESTED.
05:44:12 THE STAFF ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY, THAT IS DAVIS
05:44:18 ISLANDS, AGAIN, THE COUNTRY CLUB SECTION SUBDIVISION,
05:44:21 ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1925.
05:44:23 LOTS RANGING FROM 40 FEET TO 97 FEET WITH TYPICAL AND
05:44:26 AVERAGE LOT WIDTHS OF 50 FEET.
05:44:28 AND THE DEPTHS VARYING BETWEEN 109 AND 217 FEET.
05:44:32 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON BLOCK 110 OF THE
05:44:35 SUBDIVISION, LOTS 12 AND 13 AGAIN.
05:44:37 THE SUBJECT APPLICATION SEEKS TO REESTABLISH THOSE
05:44:40 ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOTS TO CREATE TWO BUILDABLE LOTS.
05:44:43 THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES PORTIONS OF THAT
05:44:46 DAVIS ISLANDS COUNTRY CLUB SECTION PLAT.
05:44:48 AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDED 192 TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND 104
05:44:53 OF THEM OR 54% OF THE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60
05:44:57 FEET OR GREATER TO INCLUDE 10 LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
05:45:00 OF 60 FEET TO 64 FEET.

05:45:03 THREE OF THOSE LOTS WITH THE WIDTH OF 65 FEET TO 69 FEET,
05:45:08 AND 35 OF THOSE LOTS WITH A WIDTH OF 70 FEET TO 74 FEET.
05:45:12 32 LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 75 FEET TO 79
05:45:17 FEET, AND 8 OF THOSE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 80
05:45:21 FEET TO 99 FEET.
05:45:22 16 LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF GREATER THAN 100 FEET
05:45:26 AND 88 OR 46% OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
05:45:29 OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
05:45:31 THIS INCLUDES 12 LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 55 FEET
05:45:35 TO 59 FEET.
05:45:36 67 LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET TO 54 FEET.
05:45:41 EIGHT OF THOSE LOTS WITH A WIDTH OF 45 FEET TO 49 FEET
05:45:45 AND ONE LOT WITH THE WIDTH OF 33.99 FEET.
05:45:48 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
05:45:51 PATTERN OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK, IT CONTAINS 12 TOTAL ZONING
05:45:55 LOTS AND 7 OR 58% OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
05:45:58 WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND FIVE, OR 42% OF THEM
05:46:02 DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
05:46:06 THE BLOCK BASICALLY CONTAINS FIVE TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
05:46:11 80% OF THE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
05:46:13 GREATER AND ONE OR 20% OF THEM DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH
05:46:18 OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
05:46:20 SHOWING ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS THE CONFORMING MAP.
05:46:25 BASICALLY BREAKING DOWN THAT DATA I JUST READ TO YOU IN
05:46:27 THE STAFF ANALYSIS.

05:46:29 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUBJECT LOT IS OUTLINED IN BLACK AND
05:46:31 HATCHED WITH THE BLACK STRIPING.
05:46:33 THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP.
05:46:37 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AGAIN, OUTLINED IN RED.
05:46:40 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE THOUSAND-FOOT BUFFER.
05:46:42 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES, LOCAL OR
05:46:46 NATIONAL WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
05:46:47 AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS FROM THE SITE ITSELF.
05:46:50 SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:46:52 IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING UNIT RIGHT NOW.
05:46:55 THE SOUTH NEIGHBOR OVER HERE TO THE LEFT, WHICH WOULD BE
05:46:57 THE 606 CHANNEL DRIVE AND IN THE WEST AT 6 CAYUGA AVENUE.
05:47:02 THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND CLIENT
05:47:06 STAFF STATING WE HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FIND
05:47:08 THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
05:47:10 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
05:47:12 PLEASE REFERENCE THE FINDINGS BY THE PLANNING DESIGN AND
05:47:14 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION RELATED TO THE EXISTING
05:47:17 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
05:47:19 AND PLANNING, TRANSPORTATION, AND NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF
05:47:22 ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
05:47:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:47:25 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:47:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
05:47:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

05:47:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MANASSE, COULD YOU PUT UP YOUR
05:47:39 COLORFUL MAP, PLEASE?
05:47:40 ALL RIGHT.
05:47:43 SO JUST VERY SLOWLY, SOMETIMES THESE COLORS ARE A LITTLE
05:47:50 HARD TO GRASP, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE KIND OF ZIPPING
05:47:55 THROUGH THEM.
05:47:56 SHOW US THE SUBJECT SITE AND VERBALLY TELL US WHERE
05:48:00 YOU'RE GOING AND HOW LARGE THE SURROUNDING SITES ARE.
05:48:05 UP AND DOWN AND AROUND THE BLOCK.
05:48:11 >>RYAN MANASSE: STARTING OUT WITH THE SUBJECT SITE, IF
05:48:14 YOU CAN SEE MY POINTER, OUTLINED IN.
05:48:16 IF YOU NEED ME TO ZOOM IN, LET ME KNOW.
05:48:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WANT TO A LITTLE BIT.
05:48:22 THAT IS FINE.
05:48:22 >> AGAIN, WHERE THE CURSOR IS, THE SUBJECT SITE, AND
05:48:32 THOSE ARE LOTS RANGING FROM 100 FEET PLUS, AS YOU CAN SEE
05:48:35 IN THE LEGEND ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.
05:48:35 SO THERE ARE 16 OF THOSE TOTAL LOTS IN THE STAFF ANALYSIS
05:48:39 RADIUS THAT WE CHECKED FOR THE CIRCUMFERENCE OF THE
05:48:41 CIRCLE.
05:48:41 THE PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST RIGHT HERE IS ALSO ONE
05:48:45 OF THE LARGER LOTS THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT 16 AND AS WELL
05:48:48 AS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
05:48:51 GOING ALONG THE SOUTH, YOU COULD SEE THE LIGHTER BLUE IS
05:48:54 50 TO 54 FEET AND ALSO ON THIS WEST SIDE OF THE BLOCK,

05:48:59 THERE ARE TWO LOTS THAT ARE IN THAT DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA
05:49:03 OR DIMENSIONAL RANGE.
05:49:05 AND THEN THAT LIGHTER GRAY WHERE MY CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW,
05:49:09 THAT'S THE LOTS 45 TO 49 FEET.
05:49:11 AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME OTHER ONES IN THE STAFF
05:49:14 ANALYSIS REVIEW AREA, BUT FOR THE IMMEDIATE BLOCK, YOU
05:49:18 WOULD SEE THESE TWO RIGHT HERE.
05:49:20 THE PALE YELLOW COLOR, THAT'S LOTS RANGING -- OR THE LOT
05:49:24 IS RANGING FROM 60 TO 64 FEET.
05:49:26 AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF TEN IN THE STAFF ANALYSIS AREA.
05:49:31 AND THEN -- YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOTS
05:49:37 IN THE BRIGHT RED.
05:49:38 THERE ARE EIGHT OF THEM TOTAL.
05:49:40 FOUR OF THEM BEING ON THIS BLOCK ITSELF, AND THOSE ARE
05:49:42 RANGING FROM 80 TO 99 FEET IN WIDTH.
05:49:46 DID THAT ANSWER MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS, SIR?
05:49:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
05:49:51 MR. DINGFELDER, ARE YOU ON VIDEO?
05:49:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM.
05:49:55 I WAS HIDING OFF THE SCREEN FOR A SECOND.
05:50:01 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY, MS. WELLS.
05:50:05 BY THE WAY, JUST AS A MATTER OF TRIVIAL PURSUIT, THE
05:50:12 DIAMOND-SHAPED PARCEL DOWN AT THE SOUTHERN END, A PLANE
05:50:17 OVERSHOT THE RUNWAY AND CRASHED INTO THAT HOUSE, AND THE
05:50:20 HOUSE BURNED.

05:50:21 THANK GOODNESS NOBODY GOT HURT.
05:50:23 THAT WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.
05:50:25 BUT ANYWAY, GOING BACK TO THE SUBJECT, SO THERE'S ONE,
05:50:30 TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX -- SIX LOTS ALONG THE WATER
05:50:35 THERE ON THE ACTUAL BLOCK FACE.
05:50:40 AND OUT OF THOSE SIX, ONLY ONE IS IN THE 50 TO 54 FEET
05:50:47 CATEGORY.
05:50:47 THE REST OF THEM ARE PRETTY MUCH DOUBLE LOTS, CORRECT?
05:50:53 >>RYAN MANASSE: WE DO NOT COUNT THE SUBJECT PARTICIPANTS.
05:50:56 WE WOULD COUNT THE FIVE.
05:50:56 YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR.
05:50:58 IT WOULD BE THE ONE OVER -- ONE UNDERSIZED LOT BETWEEN 50
05:51:01 AND 54 FEET, THIS LIGHT BLUE WHERE MY CURSOR IS.
05:51:05 FOR THE BLOCK BASED ANALYSIS PORTION OF THIS REVIEW, WE
05:51:08 WOULD TAKE THE LOT IMMEDIATE TO THE SOUTH NEIGHBORING
05:51:13 PROPERTY AND THEN THESE LOTS THAT ARE THE BRIGHT RED,
05:51:15 WHICH ARE THE 80 TO 99 FEET.
05:51:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY,
05:51:21 WHICH IS COLUMBIA DRIVE, THE IMMEDIATE BACK NEIGHBORS
05:51:25 LOOKS LIKE THE IDENTICAL DOUBLE LOT, CORRECT?
05:51:30 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES.
05:51:31 WHERE MY CURSOR IS RIGHT HERE THAT WOULD BE A LOT, A
05:51:34 HUNDRED PLUS.
05:51:35 AND THEN YOU CAN SEE TO THE SOUTH OF THAT, THERE ARE A
05:51:37 FEW SUBSTANDARD LOTS WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT.

05:51:41 TWO OF THE LIGHT BLUES.
05:51:42 AGAIN, THOSE WOULD BE THE 50 TO 54.
05:51:45 THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THAT, THERE IS THE LIGHTER GRAY
05:51:47 BLUE.
05:51:47 AND THAT'S 45 TO 49 FEET.
05:51:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
05:51:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:51:55 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:51:56 ANYTHING ELSE?
05:51:58 ALL RIGHT.
05:51:58 I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.
05:52:01 MR. MICHELINI.
05:52:03 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI,
05:52:06 REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
05:52:08 REGARDING THIS REQUEST TO GO FROM RS 60 TO RS 50.
05:52:13 WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO DO IS TO RESTORE THE ORIGINAL
05:52:16 PLAT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1925, AND I'VE GOT SOME
05:52:21 OTHER EXHIBITS THAT I'M GOING TO ASK TO SHOW.
05:52:24 IT SHOWS THE DOMINANT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN HERE IS
05:52:29 TRENDING TOWARD THE 50-FOOT LOTS, BOTH FROM NEW
05:52:32 DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT.
05:52:35 THE LOTS AT THE VERY SOUTH END NEAR THE AIRPORT ARE
05:52:39 IRREGULAR.
05:52:39 THEY HAVE EXTRAORDINARY WIDTHS, BUT THEY HAVE SHALLOW
05:52:42 DEPTHS.

05:52:43 THEY ARE NOT A HUNDRED FEET IN DEEP.
05:52:46 THEY ARE LESS THAN THAT.
05:52:47 THEY ARE ABOUT 80 FEET IN DEPTH BUT FOR THE FACT THEY
05:52:53 HAVE ADDITIONAL WIDTH ON THE FRONTAGE, THEY WOULDN'T BE
05:52:56 MEETING THE CODE EITHER.
05:52:57 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT
05:53:00 THESE LOTS ALL FACE THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AND WHEN WE
05:53:05 WENT FOR A REZONING RECENTLY ON TWO LOTS APPROXIMATELY 50
05:53:11 FEET TO THE SOUTH OF THIS, IT WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT.
05:53:15 AND WHEN WE SHIFTED NORTHWARD, WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE
05:53:21 ADDITIONAL HUNDRED PARCELS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE REVIEW
05:53:25 AREA.
05:53:25 WE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF, BY THE WAY, AND ASKING WHAT WAS
05:53:31 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT REVIEWS.
05:53:34 WE HAVE AN ISSUE REGARDING THE CALCULATIONS.
05:53:39 IF YOU RECALL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT, HALF
05:53:44 OF THE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH IS RESIDENTIAL 20, AND IT IS
05:53:49 DEVELOPED ALMOST THE ENTIRE BLOCK EXCEPT FOR ONE OF THE
05:53:53 LOTS AND MULTIFAMILY.
05:53:56 THEY ARE SHOWN ON YOUR DISTRIBUTION AND ANALYSIS SHEET AS
05:54:00 SOME OF THEM ARE BEING SHOWN AS RED, WHICH IS SKEWING
05:54:04 SOME OF THE CALCULATIONS.
05:54:06 IN ADDITION TO THAT, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET TO THE
05:54:10 WEST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COLUMBIA IS THE TAMPA FIRE
05:54:14 STATION.

05:54:14 THAT'S BEING SHOWN AS RED, AND IT HAS 8 DEVELOPMENT LOTS
05:54:20 THAT'S ALSO SKEWING THE DATA.
05:54:24 LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THE SCREEN TO SHOW YOU.
05:54:29 CAN YOU SHARE THAT SCREEN?
05:54:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
05:54:48 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THIS ENTIRE AREA HERE IS THE FIRE
05:54:51 STATION.
05:54:52 AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL HERE.
05:54:54 AND THEN IF YOU LOOK UP HERE, EVERYTHING EXCEPT THAT LOT
05:54:58 RIGHT THERE, THOSE ARE APARTMENTS.
05:55:02 GOING FROM HERE, GOING NORTHWARD, LET ME SHOW YOU THAT
05:55:06 OTHER -- THE OTHER SCREEN HERE.
05:55:12 ALL OF THESE ARE TEN UNIT APARTMENTS OR MORE, AND THEN
05:55:15 THIS ONE CORNER HERE IS SINGLE-FAMILY.
05:55:19 IT'S A 50-FOOT LOT.
05:55:22 SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME MITIGATING
05:55:24 CIRCUMSTANCES HERE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
05:55:29 LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS OTHER SCAN TO SHOW UP.
05:55:33 WELL, I HAVE OPERATOR ERROR HERE.
05:55:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'VE GOT TO USE THE BOTTOM SCREEN
05:55:50 FIRST AND MAYBE CLOSE THAT OUT.
05:56:00 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WELL, ANYWAY, MAYBE YOU CAN SEE -- CAN
05:56:06 YOU SEE THIS?
05:56:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'VE GOT TO STOP SHARING YOUR
05:56:12 SCREEN -- WELL, LET ME SEE.

05:56:15 CAN WE SEE THAT?
05:56:16 SOMEWHAT.
05:56:19 YEAH, WE CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW.
05:56:22 WE SEE THE YELLOW --
05:56:23 >>STEVE MICHELINI: OKAY.
05:56:25 ALL OF THOSE Xs ARE 50-FOOT LOTS.
05:56:27 IF YOU MAKE OUT THE APARTMENTS AND THE FIRE STATION, YOU
05:56:31 WILL SEE THAT OUR PETITION IS RIGHT IN THE CENTER --
05:56:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE RECORD, I CAN'T
05:56:38 SEE WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO.
05:56:40 I JUST SEE A PICTURE OF A BIG HOUSE.
05:56:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON HIS CAMERA, NOT HIS SCREEN.
05:56:46 MR. MICHELINI, IF YOU CAN CLOSE OUT YOUR SCREEN AND GO
05:56:50 BACK TO YOUR CAMERA.
05:56:51 OR YOU CAN CLICK ON MICHELINI'S SCREEN AND YOU CAN MAKE
05:56:58 IT BIGGER FROM THERE IF YOU'RE USING THE GoToMeeting.
05:57:02 CAN YOU SEE IT NOW, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
05:57:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT REALLY.
05:57:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE ANY WAY FOR SULING TO MAKE THAT
05:57:13 THE MAIN SCREEN, MR. MICHELINI'S SCREEN?
05:57:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
05:57:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN SEE IT.
05:57:21 YOU SEE THE Xs THERE.
05:57:24 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT STAR IS OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY.
05:57:29 AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE STAR, ALL OF THOSE Xs ARE

05:57:36 50-FOOT LOTS.
05:57:38 CAN YOU STILL SEE THAT?
05:57:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:57:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
05:57:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:57:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
05:57:50 IS IT POSSIBLE MR. MICHELINI CAN TAKE THE PHOTO OF THE
05:57:54 HOUSE AND USE HIS REGULAR CAMERA.
05:57:56 THAT'S TOO FAR AWAY FOR ME TO SEE WHAT HE'S TALKING
05:57:58 ABOUT.
05:57:59 I'M SORRY.
05:58:01 >> IF YOU GO IN THE LITTLE SCREEN AND HOVER OVER, THERE
05:58:04 ARE TWO ARROWS THAT POINT UP AND DOWN, IF YOU CLICK ON
05:58:07 THAT, IT WILL --
05:58:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL MAKE IT BIGGER.
05:58:11 GO TO MICHELINI'S SCREEN.
05:58:12 SEE THE TWO ARROWS, CLICK IT, AND IT MAKES HIM THE CENTER
05:58:17 SCREEN SO YOU'LL SEE IT MUCH BIGGER.
05:58:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE AT HOME SEEING?
05:58:27 THE PUBLIC.
05:58:30 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THEY ARE SEEING WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU
05:58:32 ON THE SCREEN.
05:58:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN YOUR LITTLE SQUARE.
05:58:36 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SEEING.
05:58:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STEVE, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT RYAN CAN

05:58:41 JUST PUT UP HIS PICTURE, AND THEN YOU COULD JUST NAVIGATE
05:58:47 AROUND THERE.
05:58:47 IF YOU'RE DIFFERING WITH RYAN'S CALCULATION --
05:58:53 >>STEVE MICHELINI: HE CAN SHOW HIS SCREEN AND I CAN SHOW
05:58:56 YOU WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED
05:59:00 SOMETHING OTHER THAN LARGER LOTS.
05:59:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE YOU CAN SAY LEFT, RIGHT, NORTH,
05:59:06 SOUTH, WHATEVER.
05:59:07 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I SENT THIS TO RYAN BY E-MAIL.
05:59:11 HE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME DOCUMENTS.
05:59:14 IF HE'LL SHOW HIS DOCUMENTS, I'LL GO THROUGH THEM.
05:59:31 >> CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT?
05:59:32 TELL ME IF YOU SEE IT AND WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO.
05:59:50 >> RYAN, IF YOU WOULD SHOW THEM THE FIRE STATION PARCEL
05:59:52 AND THE APARTMENTS.
05:59:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: THIS IS RYAN MANASSE WITH PLANNING AND
05:59:58 DEVELOPMENT.
05:59:58 I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRE STATION YOU'RE REFERRING TO,
06:00:00 MR. MICHELINI.
06:00:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- CAYUGA AND DAVIS.
06:00:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S CORRECT.
06:00:06 THAT'S THE FIREHOUSE.
06:00:07 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THERE ARE EIGHT LOTS THERE BEING SHOWN
06:00:11 AS PART OF THE CALCULATION, AND THEN IF YOU GO FURTHER
06:00:15 NORTH ON COLUMBIA, YOU HAVE AN RM-16 AND A PD, AND ALL OF

06:00:22 THAT, ALL THE WAY NORTH UP TO NEARLY THE CORNER, THOSE
06:00:26 ARE ALL APARTMENTS.
06:00:29 SO ANYWAY, MY POINT IS THAT WE ARE NOT THAT INCONSISTENT
06:00:34 WITH WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
06:00:39 -- WITH WHAT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS.
06:00:42 WE DID TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
06:00:44 I WALKED AROUND AND MET WITH THEM PERSONALLY, INCLUDING
06:00:46 THE ONES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS.
06:00:48 THEY HAD NO OBJECTION WHATSOEVER TO THIS PROPOSAL.
06:00:55 THE DAVIS ISLANDS CIVIC ASSOCIATION WAS CONTACTED AND
06:00:59 THEY ADVISED US THEY HAD NO OBJECTION TO THIS GOING
06:01:01 FORWARD.
06:01:02 IT IS MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE.
06:01:04 IT MIMICS THE PATTERN THAT'S ALREADY OCCURRING ALONG THE
06:01:08 AREA THAT FACES THE INDUSTRIAL AREA OF THE PORT.
06:01:13 I COULDN'T DETERMINE IF THERE WERE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
06:01:19 AGAIN, THE CALCULATIONS, IF YOU REVISED THEM AND YOU TAKE
06:01:23 OUT THESE MULTIFAMILY AND DON'T COUNT THEM AS LARGER
06:01:30 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, IT INCREASES OUR PERCENTAGE TO JUST
06:01:37 CLOSE -- VERY CLOSE TO 50% OF THE AREA IS SINGLE-FAMILY,
06:01:43 50-FOOT LOTS.
06:01:47 THERE ARE 15 LOTS THAT ARE NOT SINGLE-FAMILY THAT ARE
06:01:50 SHOWN.
06:01:51 THEY ARE JUST COUNTED BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE CITY
06:01:53 ANALYSIS IS SET UP, THEY JUST COUNT THE LOTS.

06:01:57 THEY DON'T COUNT THE USE OF WHETHER IT'S SINGLE-FAMILY OR
06:02:00 MULTIFAMILY.
06:02:03 AND FROM 503 TO 517 COLUMBIA, THOSE ARE ALL MULTIFAMILY.
06:02:10 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER EXAMPLES OF NEW CONSTRUCTION
06:02:13 AS WELL AS HISTORIC 50-FOOT LOTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA.
06:02:20 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 RECOGNIZES THAT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT
06:02:23 TO THIS TO THE NORTH IS A HIGHER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT,
06:02:27 WHICH MAKES ALL OF THOSE APARTMENTS COMPATIBLE AND MAKES
06:02:31 THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
06:02:37 WE BELIEVE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
06:02:41 THE ONLY OBJECTION CAME FROM LDC, AND THAT WAS BASED UPON
06:02:49 THE BLOCK FACE AND THE CALCULATIONS FOR 50-FOOT VERSUS
06:02:54 60-FOOT OR GREATER LOTS.
06:02:57 IT DOES NOT CREATE A NEW DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
06:03:00 IT MIMICS AND DUPLICATES THE PATTERN THAT'S ALREADY
06:03:04 THERE.
06:03:05 AS I SHOWED YOU ON THE ONE SCAN, IT IS BASICALLY IN THE
06:03:11 CENTER OF A REDEVELOPMENT AREA THAT'S 50-FOOT LOTS.
06:03:16 I'M SORRY.
06:03:20 WHAT?
06:03:20 THE AVIATION AUTHORITY, WE WERE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT
06:03:27 APPLICATION TO THE AVIATION AUTHORITY.
06:03:31 AND THEY APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS -- APPROVABLE
06:03:39 FOR THIS AREA.
06:03:39 SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

06:03:45 LIKE I SAID, THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAD
06:03:48 NO OBJECTION, AND YOU KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE, DAVIS ISLANDS
06:03:53 -- [INTERFERING AUDIO] -- ISSUES, THEY WOULD BE DOWN HERE
06:03:58 IN FORCE.
06:04:00 SO WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL, AND I
06:04:04 THINK THAT WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THIS IS NOT A NEW
06:04:09 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
06:04:09 IT DOES NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, AND IT IS CONSISTENT
06:04:15 WITH ALL OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
06:04:18 THE ADVISORY OPINION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
06:04:21 IS WHEN THEY DID THEIR ANALYSIS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH A
06:04:26 DIFFERENT CONCLUSION, BUT IT WAS BASED UPON -- THE WAY
06:04:29 THEY ANALYZED THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
06:04:32 ONE OTHER THING IS THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT OTHER PATTERN.
06:04:38 WE THINK THAT YOU ALL SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT OTHER
06:04:41 PATTERN.
06:04:41 THE STAFF INDICATED TO ME THAT THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING
06:04:45 OTHER THAN TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE LOTS WERE THERE, AND
06:04:50 THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT THE USES.
06:04:53 SO, AGAIN, JUST IN SUMMARY, WE'RE ADJACENT TO A NUMBER OF
06:04:59 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES, A FIRE STATION.
06:05:03 WE LOOK OUT OVER THE INDUSTRIAL AREA OF THE PORT
06:05:06 AUTHORITY, AND WE ARE IN THE EPICENTER OF 50-FOOT
06:05:11 DEVELOPMENT LOTS, BOTH TO THE SOUTH OF US -- I'M SORRY,
06:05:16 TO THE NORTH OF US, AND ON THE SOUTH OF US ARE THE

06:05:20 IRREGULAR SHAPED LOTS THAT ARE WIDE BUT NOT DEEP.
06:05:24 AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
06:05:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
06:05:29 PETITIONER?
06:05:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A QUESTION FOR RYAN, AT WHICH POINT,
06:05:36 MR. MICHELINI, I GUESS COULD REBUT.
06:05:39 BUT THAT'S UP TO MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:05:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
06:05:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:05:45 I WAS WAITING FOR YOUR PERMISSION.
06:05:47 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:05:50 RYAN, MR. MICHELINI SAYS THAT THE CITY'S CALCULATIONS ARE
06:05:55 INACCURATE, SPECIFICALLY AS RELATED TO THE EIGHT, I THINK
06:06:00 APPROXIMATELY EIGHT LOTS OF THE FIREHOUSE AND ALSO SOME
06:06:05 OF THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALONG COLUMBIA DRIVE.
06:06:08 I MEAN, THERE ARE APARTMENTS ON COLUMBIA DRIVE.
06:06:13 I CAN'T TELL EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, WHICH BLOCK THEY ARE
06:06:18 IN.
06:06:19 I CAN'T REMEMBER.
06:06:19 BUT ANYWAY, SO DID WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION?
06:06:23 I MEAN, I WOULD AGREE.
06:06:26 THE FIREHOUSE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE.
06:06:29 IT'S A PUBLIC USE.
06:06:33 SO ANYWAY.
06:06:34 DO YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE, RYAN?

06:06:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: JUST TO ADDRESS IT.
06:06:38 SO THE 8 NUMBER -- I WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION.
06:06:41 THIS FIREHOUSE LOT IS COUNTED AS ONE LOT.
06:06:43 AS MR. MICHELINI STATED THERE MAY BE EIGHT PLOTTED LOTS
06:06:47 BUT FOR THE STAFF ANALYSIS IT ACCOUNTED FOR ONE LOT THAT
06:06:50 WAS IN THE TOTAL OF 16 OF THESE PLUS 100 LOTS.
06:06:53 NOW, AS FAR AS WE DO OUR ANALYSIS, I BELIEVE IT WAS
06:06:55 COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO DO THEM THIS WAY.
06:06:59 I SEE MARY POPPED ON TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY
06:07:03 PRIOR TO MY TIME AT REZONING AND SHE MAY BE ABLE TO
06:07:07 BETTER DESCRIBE HOW THEY DO THE MAPS AND NOW HOW WE DO
06:07:10 THEM CURRENTLY.
06:07:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARY, I GUESS YOU HAVE TO BE SWORN IN
06:07:15 IF YOU CHIME IN.
06:07:17 I'M SURPRISED THAT WE COUNT PUBLIC POLICY LIKE A
06:07:20 FIREHOUSE -- I MEAN, I WOULD JUST PROBABLY DELETE IT FROM
06:07:23 THE CALCULATION COMPLETELY.
06:07:25 BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
06:07:28 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL
06:07:34 THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
06:07:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES.
06:07:38 MARY SAMANIEGO, FOR THE RECORD.
06:07:41 OVER THE YEARS -- WHERE DO I BEGIN?
06:07:44 TO ANSWER YOUR BASIC QUESTIONS, STAFF WAS DIRECTLY --
06:07:51 CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF EXACTLY HOW TO DO THESE MAPS.

06:07:55 WE WERE TO NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EXISTING ZONING,
06:07:59 MAJOR ROADWAYS OR EXISTING USES.
06:08:01 WE WERE TO LOOK AT A 1320 RADIUS AND COUNT ALL
06:08:05 DEVELOPABLE LOTS ACCORDINGLY.
06:08:08 STAFF USED TO LOOK AT A NINE-BLOCK AS MAYBE A YEAR AND A
06:08:15 HALF AGO, TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THIS CHANGE HAPPENED.
06:08:17 WE USED TO LOOK AT A NINE-BLOCK STUDY AREA AND ONLY LOOK
06:08:20 AT DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS BECAUSE THAT WAS STAFF'S
06:08:23 THOUGHT OF WHAT WE WERE COMPARING.
06:08:26 THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
06:08:29 IF THERE WAS A MAJOR ROADWAY LIKE DALE MABRY, WE WOULDN'T
06:08:32 CROSS THAT MAJOR ARTERIAL, THE COLLECTOR.
06:08:36 IF IT WAS ALONG -- IF THERE WAS A FRONTAGE ON THE
06:08:41 BOUNDARY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS COMMERCIALLY
06:08:44 GENERALLY ZONED, WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY INCLUDE THOSE.
06:08:47 BUT AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION, AND WE USED TO JUST DO RED AND
06:08:51 BLUE, MORE THAN SIX FEET AND LESS THAN SIX FEET.
06:08:53 AGAIN, AT CITY COUNCIL'S SPECIFIC DIRECTION, WE HAD, I
06:08:58 THINK, A WORKSHOP ON IT AND MULTIPLE MEETINGS.
06:09:00 THIS WAS HOW CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF ON HOW TO DO THE
06:09:04 MAPS.
06:09:04 AGAIN, 1320 AND NOT CONSIDER THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT
06:09:09 NOR THE EXISTING USE.
06:09:10 STAFF IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD.
06:09:15 BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE

06:09:21 METHOD THAT WE USE IS CONSISTENT FROM CASE TO CASE AND
06:09:24 NOT NECESSARILY LOOK AT DIFFERENT CRITERIA OR DIFFERENT
06:09:27 TYPES OF -- FOR EACH CASE.
06:09:31 I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WANTED TO
06:09:35 CHIME IN ON THAT THOUGHT.
06:09:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING FROM ANY OF OUR ATTORNEYS?
06:09:47 >> THANK YOU.
06:09:48 I APOLOGIZE.
06:09:48 I TURNED MY CAMERA OFF INSTEAD OF MY MICROPHONE ON.
06:09:52 CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
06:09:54 WITH RESPECT TO THIS EVENING'S PETITION, I WOULD SUBMIT
06:09:57 THAT COUNCIL SHOULD REVIEW THIS BASED UPON THE STANDARDS
06:10:02 THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AND IMPLEMENTED BY
06:10:05 STAFF DURING THE LAST YEAR AS DESCRIBED MS. SAMANIEGO.
06:10:09 TO THE EXTENT THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE DIRECTION THAT
06:10:11 WOULD BE FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION, ONCE WE AMEND THE CODE
06:10:15 TO ADDRESS THAT.
06:10:16 JUST ASKING COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT AND ABIDE BY THE
06:10:23 STANDARDS IN THE CODE AS ADOPTED CURRENTLY.
06:10:25 THANK YOU.
06:10:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:10:28 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SIR?
06:10:30 ANYTHING ELSE?
06:10:34 ALL RIGHT.
06:10:35 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

06:10:37 IF THERE IS ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC
06:10:40 COMMENT, IT'S NOT --
06:10:44 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
06:10:47 AND THERE'S NO ONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER AT THIS
06:10:49 TIME.
06:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:10:50 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION TO
06:10:52 CLOSE?
06:10:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR THE PETITIONER.
06:10:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:11:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE
06:11:03 DAVIS ISLANDS CIVICS ASSOCIATION.
06:11:06 I'M CONFIDENT THAT YOU NOTICED THEM AND YOU COULD CONFIRM
06:11:10 THAT.
06:11:11 DID YOU SPEAK TO ANYBODY WITH THE CIVICS ASSOCIATION IN
06:11:18 REGARD TO THIS OR JUST SILENCE, YOU ASSUMED THEY HAD NO
06:11:21 OBJECTION?
06:11:21 >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.
06:11:22 WE CONTACTED THEM TO DISCUSS THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, AND
06:11:28 THEY CONFIRMED IT AGAIN IN AN E-MAIL TO US YESTERDAY THAT
06:11:36 SAID THEY DID NOT OPPOSE THIS NOR APPROVE IT, BUT THEY
06:11:39 DIDN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION.
06:11:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHO WAS THAT?
06:11:42 >>STEVE MICHELINI: JANICE DAVIS.
06:11:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, STEVE.

06:11:47 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I HAVE REBUTTAL TIME, RIGHT?
06:11:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:11:53 GO AHEAD.
06:11:54 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
06:11:56 MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES HERE THAT ARE TO BE CONSIDERED
06:12:01 FOR THIS PROPOSAL.
06:12:04 AND I POINTED THEM OUT.
06:12:07 THE STAFF FOLLOWED THE DIRECTION THAT THEY HAD, BUT I
06:12:10 THINK THAT WHEN YOU ADD THESE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THAT
06:12:14 CLEARLY ARE NOT SINGLE-FAMILY, AND THEY ARE SHOWING UP AS
06:12:17 LARGER THAN 60-FOOT LOTS, THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, COUNCIL
06:12:24 HAS THE DISCRETION -- AT THE VERY LEAST, THE COUNCIL HAS
06:12:32 THE DISCRETION TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
06:12:36 WE DIDN'T CREATE THOSE ANOMALIES, AND WE OBVIOUSLY ARE
06:12:42 FOLLOWING A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S ALREADY -- WE'RE
06:12:44 IN THE MIDDLE, AS I POINTED OUT TO YOU WITH THOSE
06:12:47 EXHIBITS, IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AREA THAT IS CLEARLY MOVING
06:12:52 TOWARD 50-FOOT LOTS.
06:12:54 WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE CONSIDERATION.
06:12:58 AND AS I SAID, I THINK COUNCIL HAS THE DISCRETION TO
06:13:01 CONSIDER THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS.
06:13:04 THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WAS AN OBJECTION REGARDING OUR
06:13:09 PETITION.
06:13:09 ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE PLANNING
06:13:12 COMMISSION, FOUND IT CONSISTENT.

06:13:14 WE WENT TO AN EXTRAORDINARY LENGTH TO ALSO REQUEST THE
06:13:19 AVIATION AUTHORITY APPROVAL.
06:13:22 BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ADDITIONAL
06:13:25 HOMES WITHIN THE FLIGHT PATH OF THE AIRPORT.
06:13:28 AND WE WERE FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT BY THEM.
06:13:32 WHEN YOU COMPARE THE TWO DIFFERENT ANALYSES, THE ONE WE
06:13:37 DID JUST SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS AGO AT 522 CHANNEL DRIVE AND
06:13:42 YOUR COMPARE THE ANALYSIS OF THIS ONE AT 604 CHANNEL
06:13:45 DRIVE, 522 WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT.
06:13:48 IT'S APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
06:13:51 AND THIS ONE IS BEING FOUND INCONSISTENT, AND THERE WERE
06:13:56 ADDITIONAL 100 PROPERTIES THAT WERE ADDED.
06:13:59 SO AS MARY SAMANIEGO POINTED OUT, THEY CHANGED THE WAY
06:14:02 THEY DID THE ANALYSIS, AND WE ADDED NINE MORE LOTS OR
06:14:08 BLOCKS TO THE EVALUATION.
06:14:10 ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT.
06:14:13 I THINK THAT WE CERTAINLY HAVE MET THE CRITERIA.
06:14:17 WE ARE NOT INTRODUCING NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE AREA, AND
06:14:21 WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
06:14:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:14:27 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
06:14:28 I BELIEVE I ALREADY ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE HAD
06:14:31 NONE.
06:14:32 ALL QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED BY COUNCIL.
06:14:34 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

06:14:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
06:14:37 COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
06:14:40 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
06:14:41 HEARING NONE, THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
06:14:46 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
06:14:49 11?
06:14:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
06:14:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:14:55 FILE NUMBER REZ 20-36, A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING
06:15:00 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
06:15:02 AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
06:15:05 VICINITY OF 604 CHANNEL DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
06:15:08 FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
06:15:11 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL,
06:15:15 SINGLE-FAMILY) TO RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY);
06:15:20 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE
06:15:23 BURDEN OF PROOF, COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
06:15:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:15:30 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
06:15:30 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
06:15:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:15:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:15:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOING TO HESITANTLY VOTE YES.
06:15:41 I REMEMBER WHEN ALL THOSE WERE BIG RANCHES ON LARGE,
06:15:45 LARGE LOTS.

06:15:46 BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. MICHELINI THAT THE DEVELOPMENT
06:15:49 PATTERN IS CHANGING.
06:15:52 IT'S A VERY HIGH-PRICED AREA AND PEOPLE ARE DOING -- I'LL
06:15:59 VOTE YES.
06:16:00 >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
06:16:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:16:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:16:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:16:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:16:08 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:16:12 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER
06:16:14 22nd AT 5:01 P.M.
06:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:16:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:16:19 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:16:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN GET MS. MALONE ON HER WAY AND
06:16:27 GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, TAKE WITH ITEM 22.
06:16:34 IT'S PAST 6:00.
06:16:36 WE CAN GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
06:16:42 >> I WOULD ASK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
06:16:53 >> OKAY.
06:16:54 I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE SCREEN.
06:16:58 THIS IS THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT 2019
06:17:03 ALONG HABANA AVENUE.
06:17:05 THIS IS JUST NORTH OF WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE ALONG NORTH

06:17:12 HABANA AVENUE.
06:17:14 CORNER OF NORTH HABANA AVENUE.
06:17:16 THIS IS AN AUTO ORIENTED USE.
06:17:21 THESE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ALONG WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
06:17:24 ALSO SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ON WEST KATHLEEN STREET.
06:17:28 THIS BUILDING I'M POINTING OUT WITH MY MOUSE IS THE
06:17:31 HILLSBOROUGH CLASSROOM TEACHERS ASSOCIATION.
06:17:34 THIS IS AN OFFICE BUILDING AND THESE ARE COMMERCIAL USE
06:17:37 TO THE SOUTH ALONG WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
06:17:40 THE REQUEST IS PRIVATELY INITIATED, SMALL SCALE AT
06:17:43 APPROXIMATELY .2 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO COMMUNITY
06:17:47 MIXED USE-35.
06:17:50 I'LL SHOW SOME SITE PICTURES.
06:17:52 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED AT HABANA AVENUE.
06:17:55 DETACHED HOME.
06:17:57 FACING SOUTH TOWARD WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
06:18:01 THIS IS THE OFFICE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET THAT ALSO
06:18:03 HAS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION, AND WE CAN
06:18:06 SEE SOUTH COLUMBUS DRIVE, WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE IN THE
06:18:10 DISTANCE.
06:18:10 MOVING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS IS THE
06:18:15 HILLSBOROUGH CLASSROOM TEACHER ASSOCIATION WHICH IS
06:18:19 HISTORIC BUILDING TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG
06:18:22 NORTH HABANA AVENUE.
06:18:24 THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ALONG WEST KATHLEEN STREET

06:18:26 AND THEN -- [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN THIS IS THE AUTO
06:18:31 ORIENTED USE THAT I POINTED OUT EARLIER THAT IS AT THE
06:18:34 CORNER OF NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
06:18:38 ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
06:18:42 THAT IS THE ORANGE COLOR ON THE MAP.
06:18:44 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN BLACK.
06:18:46 TO THE SOUTH IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, WHICH IS THE PINK
06:18:50 COLOR.
06:18:51 THAT PATTERN IS ALONG WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND IT ALSO
06:18:54 CONTINUES SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH ALONG HABANA.
06:19:00 WHERE MY CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW IS THE HILLSBOROUGH
06:19:02 CLASSROOM TEACHERS ASSOCIATION BUILDING HAS THAT
06:19:05 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
06:19:07 THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE IS COMMUNITY
06:19:10 COMMERCIAL 35 WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR THOSE MORE INTENSIVE
06:19:14 COMMERCIAL USES.
06:19:16 THIS IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP RECOGNIZING THE
06:19:19 LOT AS COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35.
06:19:23 THIS WOULD INCREASE THE POTENTIAL UNITS FROM TWO TO
06:19:27 SEVEN, BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY IT WOULD INCREASE THE SQUARE
06:19:30 FOOTAGE ALLOWED FROM APPROXIMATELY 3,000 SQUARE FEET TO
06:19:33 APPROXIMATELY 17,000 SQUARE FEET.
06:19:35 COMMUNITY MIXED US 35 DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR UNITS TO BE
06:19:39 DEVELOPED UNDER THE DWELLING UNITS OR FLOOR AREA RATIO.
06:19:43 THE 17,000 SQUARE FEET COULD BE A COMBINATION OR IT COULD

06:19:47 BE ONLY UNITS FOR THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.
06:19:51 WHICHEVER BENEFITS THE DEVELOPER.
06:19:52 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:19:55 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:19:56 WHILE THE PLAN DOES SEEK TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL AREAS,
06:20:00 THERE IS THAT STATEMENT THAT IT NEEDS TO BALANCE THE NEED
06:20:03 FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
06:20:04 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FLUE DOES ALLOW FOR SOME
06:20:09 COMMERCIAL USES.
06:20:10 HOWEVER, STAFF IN THEIR REVIEW FOUND THAT ANY PROPOSED
06:20:13 DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE REZONING PROCESS.
06:20:18 -- WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
06:20:20 AGAIN, THAT LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE GIVEN ITS
06:20:24 PROXIMITY AND -- 35 ALREADY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA
06:20:28 TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
06:20:30 MORE POLICIES THAT WERE CITED IN THE -- ARE THE POLICIES
06:20:34 THAT STATE WE NEED TO DESIGNATE ENOUGH LAND FOR HOUSING
06:20:37 TO MEET TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
06:20:39 THIS WOULD ALSO PROMOTE THAT COMPACT CITY FORM STRATEGY.
06:20:43 ENCOURAGES MIXED USE INFILL, DEVELOPMENT -- THIS IS VERY
06:20:49 CLOSE TO WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE WHICH HAS TRANSIT AVAILABLE.
06:20:55 LASTLY, INF POLICY 1.1.17 DIRECTS THE CITY TO DIRECT,
06:21:02 QUOTE, THE GREATEST SHARE OF GROWTH, UNQUOTE, TO THE
06:21:05 URBAN VILLAGES AND THIS IS WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN
06:21:08 VILLAGE.

06:21:09 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:21:13 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:21:15 WE HAD NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE AGENCIES WHEN THIS WAS SENT
06:21:18 OUT FOR REVIEW.
06:21:19 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:21:21 THANK YOU.
06:21:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
06:21:22 ALL RIGHT.
06:21:28 MR. SHELBY --
06:21:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
06:21:33 PROCEDURALLY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
06:21:35 ARE YOU GOING TO DO 22 AND THEN HAVE SEPARATE VOTES?
06:21:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, CAN WE TAKE THIS VOTE NOW
06:21:45 AND THEN DISCUSS 22 OR HEAR EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THEN
06:21:48 TAKE THE VOTES?
06:21:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT IN TIME
06:21:52 YOU TAKE THEM SEPARATELY.
06:21:54 THERE ARE SEPARATE CRITERIA THAT YOU RELY ON.
06:21:57 THERE ARE SEPARATE BURDENS.
06:21:59 AND FRANKLY, WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS
06:22:03 NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL, DEBATABLE STANDARD.
06:22:09 THE OTHER ONE OPEN WITH THE 6:00 HEARINGS IS
06:22:12 QUASI-JUDICIAL, WHICH HAS A BURDEN OF REQUIRING COMPETENT
06:22:16 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
06:22:17 THAT BEING THE CASE, IT'S BETTER TO TAKE THEM BOTH.

06:22:20 YOU HAVE THE PETITIONER PRESENT.
06:22:22 TAKE THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
06:22:29 >>CATE WELLS: I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE
06:22:31 PETITIONER AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FOR
06:22:33 THE PETITIONER, THEY BE ADDED AS PANELISTS AT THIS TIME.
06:22:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE 6:00
06:22:40 HEARINGS?
06:22:41 >> SO MOVED.
06:22:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALL OF THEM, MR. CHAIRMAN?
06:22:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, ALL OF THEM.
06:22:47 IT'S ALREADY PAST 6.
06:22:49 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:22:51 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:22:53 ANY OBJECTION?
06:22:53 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, ALL THE HEARINGS ARE
06:22:57 NOW OPEN.
06:22:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PETITIONER FOR NUMBER 7 AND NUMBER
06:23:06 22.
06:23:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SWEAR THEM IN.
06:23:19 >> HELLO?
06:23:20 >> HI, EVERYONE.
06:23:30 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
06:23:32 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
06:23:34 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
06:23:36 >> I DO.

06:23:37 >> I DO.
06:23:38 >> I DO.
06:23:38 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
06:23:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:23:45 LET'S BEGIN.
06:23:48 >> ARE WE GOING FORWARD WITH ITEM 22?
06:23:50 I'M SORRY.
06:23:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVEN'T FINISHED 7.
06:23:55 I'M CONFUSED ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO PROCEED.
06:23:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION FOR 7.
06:24:00 AND THEN WE CAN DO THE PRESENTATION FOR 22 AND THEN TAKE
06:24:04 THE VOTE ONE AFTER ANOTHER.
06:24:06 IS THAT ALL RIGHT?
06:24:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SUGGEST WE HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER
06:24:09 WITH REGARD TO THE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND THEN HEAR FROM THE
06:24:13 PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO THE PLAN AMENDMENTS.
06:24:16 THEN IF YOU WANT TO MOVE ON AND HEARING THE REZONING AND
06:24:20 CLOSE THEM BOTH AND TAKE THEM TOGETHER, YOU CAN DO IT
06:24:22 THAT WAY.
06:24:23 THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO THEM IS SEPARATELY.
06:24:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALREADY HEARD THE PRESENTATION FOR
06:24:27 ITEM NUMBER 7.
06:24:29 PETITIONER FOR ITEM NUMBER 7, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD
06:24:32 AND SPEAK.
06:24:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I GUESS THE QUESTION I

06:24:38 WOULD HAVE IS, DID THEY SEE THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF?
06:24:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PETITIONER, DID YOU SEE THE
06:24:46 PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS FUTURE LAND USE ITEM FOR 30007
06:24:53 NORTH HABANA AVENUE?
06:24:54 MR. ALVAREZ, DID YOU HEAR EVERYTHING UP UNTIL THIS POINT?
06:25:01 >> YES.
06:25:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:25:02 THERE IS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN.
06:25:03 DID YOU HEAR IT, SIR?
06:25:05 >> YES, I DID.
06:25:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THEY'VE HEARD IT.
06:25:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK WHY BOTH ARE REGISTERED AS
06:25:13 ZACHARY ALVAREZ.
06:25:16 >> MY ENGINEER WAS ON MY LOG-IN AS WELL.
06:25:21 HE WAS HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH HIS LINK.
06:25:24 SO I FORWARDED MY LINK TO HIM AND HE WAS ABLE TO JOIN
06:25:27 THAT WAY.
06:25:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE THE PETITIONER AND HE IS YOUR
06:25:35 ENGINEER.
06:25:36 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
06:25:37 >> YES, SIR.
06:25:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:25:39 SO YOU'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 7.
06:25:42 IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY AT THIS POINT?
06:25:46 >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO -- FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK

06:25:49 JENNIFER FOR AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
06:25:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:25:53 >> GOOD EVENING.
06:25:54 MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS AND MEMBERS OF THE STAFF, MY
06:25:57 NAME IS BRAULIO GRAJALES.
06:26:00 I AM THE AGENT FOR THIS CASE, AND I WILL BE THE ENGINEER
06:26:04 OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT.
06:26:07 I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TO REPRESENT MR. ZACK AND CHRISTINA
06:26:15 ALVAREZ.
06:26:16 I WILL LET THEM SPEAK WHAT THEIR VISION IS ABOUT THIS
06:26:19 AREA AND WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO RIGHT AFTER I
06:26:22 RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
06:26:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:26:30 >> THANK YOU, BRAULIO.
06:26:31 THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
06:26:35 THIS IS MY WIFE CHRISTINA.
06:26:38 WE ARE FAIRLY YOUNG GETTING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT SPACE IN
06:26:42 WEST TAMPA.
06:26:44 BOTH OF US HAVE BEEN THIRD-GENERATION TAMPA NATIVES.
06:26:47 BOTH OUR GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS GREW UP IN THE WEST
06:26:50 TAMPA AREA JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.
06:26:53 IT'S BEEN A REAL PRIZE POSSESSION FOR US TO KIND OF
06:26:56 REDEVELOP AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THE VALUE IN
06:27:01 THE AREA AND ALSO MOVE RENTERS OUT OF THE AREA AND BRING
06:27:06 IN BUYERS.

06:27:07 SO BY DOING THAT, WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP TOWNHOMES,
06:27:12 REALLY BEAUTIFUL THREE-STORY TOWNHOMES WITH A ROOFTOP ON
06:27:16 THIS PROPERTY TO BE SOLD, NOT TO BE RENTED.
06:27:20 AND THAT IS OUR VISION FOR THE PROJECT ON 3007 HABANA.
06:27:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:27:27 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
06:27:29 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ENGINEER?
06:27:32 ALL RIGHT.
06:27:38 MR. DINGFELDER, DID HE SAY SOMETHING?
06:27:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
06:27:44 I'LL HOLD MY COMMENT UNTIL THE REZONING.
06:27:47 I THINK WE'RE STILL IN THE COMP PLAN, RIGHT?
06:27:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:27:50 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
06:27:52 ITEM NUMBER 7?
06:27:54 >>THE CLERK: WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIVE SPEAKER FOR THIS
06:27:57 ITEM.
06:27:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:27:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:27:58 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS?
06:28:01 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:28:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. WELLS.
06:28:04 >>CATE WELLS: BEFORE YOU CLOSE, CATE WELLS, CHIEF
06:28:07 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
06:28:08 I WANT TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT THIS IS A

06:28:11 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
06:28:12 WHILE THE PETITIONER HAS INDICATED TO COUNCIL THEIR
06:28:18 INTENTION FOR HOW THEY'LL DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, THE ISSUE
06:28:20 AT THIS POINT IS THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE PROPOSED PLAN
06:28:23 AMENDMENT TO CMU-35.
06:28:25 KEEP IN MIND THAT NOTWITHSTANDING WHAT THE PETITIONER HAS
06:28:28 REPRESENTED, HOW THEY INTEND TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, BY
06:28:32 GOING TO CMU 35 DESIGNATION, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A
06:28:36 VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES AT THIS PARCEL.
06:28:39 AND THAT IS THE QUESTION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS THE
06:28:41 APPROPRIATENESS OF THE PROPOSED CMU 35 DESIGNATION.
06:28:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
06:28:53 OF STAFF WITH REGARD TO THAT?
06:28:55 MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD YOU ALSO ASK ABOUT TCC?
06:29:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS THERE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA
06:29:01 CONVENTION CENTER?
06:29:02 I BELIEVE THERE WAS NOT.
06:29:03 >>THE CLERK: NO, SIR, THERE IS NO ONE AT THE TAMPA
06:29:05 CONVENTION CENTER.
06:29:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:29:07 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
06:29:09 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:29:13 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
06:29:14 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:29:15 ANY OBJECTION?

06:29:16 HEARING NONE, WE HAVE CLOSED THE HEARING BY UNANIMOUS
06:29:21 CONSENT.
06:29:22 WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION.
06:29:23 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER
06:29:27 7?
06:29:30 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
06:29:31 HANG ON A SECOND.
06:29:32 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER PA 20-19, AN ORDINANCE
06:29:43 BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
06:29:45 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
06:29:48 PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
06:29:52 PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3007 NORTH HABANA AVENUE
06:29:55 FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 (R-10) TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35
06:30:00 (CMU-35) PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
06:30:03 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
06:30:06 EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:30:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
06:30:08 >> SECOND.
06:30:09 >> SECOND.
06:30:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
06:30:11 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
06:30:12 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
06:30:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:30:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:30:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

06:30:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:30:20 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:30:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:30:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:30:27 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:30:29 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER
06:30:32 22nd AT 5:01 P.M.
06:30:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:30:37 WE WILL NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER 22.
06:30:39 WE'VE ALREADY OPENED THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
06:30:42 SO WHOMEVER WISHES TO PROCEED.
06:30:47 MR. ALVAREZ AND THE ENGINEER ARE ON, SO JUST PLEASE RAISE
06:30:51 YOUR RIGHT HAND AGAIN TO BE SWORN IN.
06:30:54 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
06:30:56 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
06:30:59 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
06:31:00 >> I DO.
06:31:01 >> I DO.
06:31:02 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
06:31:03 THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS
06:31:06 ON THIS ITEM.
06:31:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:31:07 MR. MANASSE.
06:31:07 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
06:31:12 22 IS REZ 20-67.

06:31:16 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3007 NORTH HABANA AVENUE.
06:31:19 REQUESTING TO GO FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
06:31:21 ZONING TO PD, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
06:31:26 DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- [INTERFERING AUDIO]
06:31:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:31:48 WE CAN SEE IT.
06:31:49 GO AHEAD.
06:32:21 >> DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:32:23 I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
06:32:24 OUR NEXT CASE IS THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, AND
06:32:28 MORE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
06:32:30 CLOSEST RECREATION FACILITY IS -- PARK LOCATED ONE BLOCK
06:32:35 NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:32:36 CLOSEST TRANSIT SITE IS ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH OF THE
06:32:38 SUBJECT SITE AT THE CORNER OF HABANA AVENUE AND COLUMBUS
06:32:41 DRIVE.
06:32:42 THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.
06:32:44 I KNOW JENNIFER WENT OVER THE MAPS.
06:32:47 I'LL GO OVER THEM BRIEFLY.
06:32:48 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE OUTLINED IN THIS COLOR.
06:32:56 YOU'LL SEE -- THIS IS KATHLEEN STREET.
06:32:57 THIS IS NORTH HABANA AVENUE.
06:33:01 YOU'LL SEE RESIDENTIAL AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM HABANA AND
06:33:05 COLUMBUS.
06:33:06 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

06:33:11 THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDER RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND
06:33:14 USE DESIGNATION.
06:33:16 AS PROPOSED, IT WOULD GO TO THE CMU-35.
06:33:20 ALONG THIS PORTION OF HABANA AND ALONG COLUMBUS AVENUE.
06:33:27 THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT FURTHERS SEVERAL
06:33:30 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES, THE PROPOSED TOWNHOMES ARE
06:33:32 ORIENTED TOWARDS HABANA AVENUE WITH ONE AUTOMOBILE
06:33:36 ENTRANCE -- OFF KATHLEEN STREET.
06:33:40 BY ORIENTING TOWNHOMES TOWARDS HABANA AVENUE, WHICH IS A
06:33:44 COLLECTOR ROADWAY, THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DESIGN
06:33:49 PROTECTS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE EAST ALONG WEST
06:33:55 KATHLEEN STREET.
06:33:56 TOWNHOMES FRONTING NORTH HABANA AVENUE INCLUDE THE FRONT
06:34:00 DOOR FACING THE SIDEWALK.
06:34:01 PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND
06:34:03 SAFE PATHWAY FOR THE AMENITIES LOCATED WITHIN THE WEST
06:34:06 TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
06:34:07 FINALLY, PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROVIDE FOR A
06:34:10 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
06:34:13 EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, WHILE ALSO BEING CONSISTENT
06:34:16 WITH THE LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER
06:34:18 THE COMMUNITY MIXED 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
06:34:22 CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE
06:34:25 REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
06:34:27 PLAN.

06:34:28 AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:34:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
06:34:34 HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT, MR. MANASSE.
06:34:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:34:40 PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
06:34:41 IF YOU WOULD, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS SEE IT.
06:34:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR MR. COLLINS,
06:34:52 IS THAT GLASS LOOKS SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE BEER, DANNY.
06:34:56 >> I NOTICED THAT, TOO.
06:35:05 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
06:35:06 ITEM 22, FILE REZ 20-67.
06:35:11 THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT WHICH IS PROPOSING TO REZONE
06:35:13 THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3007 NORTH HABANA AVENUE FROM
06:35:18 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, RS-50, TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
06:35:21 PD TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THREE RESIDENTIAL
06:35:24 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNITS.
06:35:26 THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY CONTAINS A SINGLE-FAMILY
06:35:29 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED.
06:35:32 THE .20-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST
06:35:35 INTERSECTION OF HABANA AVENUE AND KATHLEEN STREET.
06:35:38 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY AND MUST
06:35:41 COMPLY WITH WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT
06:35:43 STANDARDS.
06:35:43 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT THREE STORY STRUCTURE
06:35:48 WITH A ROOFTOP TERRACE FOR RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOUSE USE.

06:35:52 EACH UNIT PROPOSES A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS
06:35:55 TO THE NORTHEAST ON WEST KATHLEEN STREET.
06:35:58 THE SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE
06:36:01 NORTH AND THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT AND COMMERCIAL USES
06:36:05 TO THE SOUTH IN THE CG ZONING DISTRICT.
06:36:07 RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST AND THE RS-50 ZONING
06:36:11 DISTRICT.
06:36:11 AND THERE IS A PD OVER TO THE WEST, AND THAT'S FILE
06:36:15 NUMBER Z 03110 ORDINANCE 03-232.
06:36:21 THE PD SETBACKS ARE LISTED OR ARE BEING REQUESTED AS
06:36:25 FOLLOWS.
06:36:25 THE NORTH 17 FEET, SOUTH 16 FEET, THE WEST 24 FEET AND
06:36:30 THE EAST 29 FEET.
06:36:32 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 40 FEET, AND
06:36:35 THERE IS A TOTAL 7 REQUIRED PARKING SPACES AND 7 ARE
06:36:39 BEING PROVIDED.
06:36:40 ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, SHOW THE WAIVERS REQUESTED
06:36:43 THROUGH THIS PETITION.
06:36:45 THE ZONING MAP WILL SHOW THE OUTLINED PROPERTY IN GREEN
06:36:48 OR I'M SORRY HATCHED IN GREEN WHERE MY CURSOR IS.
06:36:52 THERE IS A PD TO THE WEST, OP, A LITTLE BIT TO THE
06:36:55 NORTHWEST AND THEN ALL THIS IS THE RS-50.
06:36:59 THE AERIAL MAP AGAIN, SHOWING YOU A LITTLE MORE, IT DOES
06:37:04 SHOW THE THOUSAND-FOOT BUFFER THAT IS PLACED AROUND THE
06:37:07 SUBJECT PARCEL AND IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP, THERE ARE NO

06:37:10 LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC STRUCTURES IN THE AREA.
06:37:13 AND THE SITE PLAN, IF YOU SEE HERE AS DESCRIBED IN THE
06:37:18 SUMMARY, THE ACCESS ONTO KATHLEEN STREET SO THE NEIGHBORS
06:37:22 TO THE NORTH WOULD BE THAT RS-50 ZONING AS WELL AS OVER
06:37:25 HERE TO THE EAST.
06:37:26 ACCESS FOR THESE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WOULD BE --
06:37:33 ATTACHED, WOULD BE HERE.
06:37:34 UNITS ONE, TWO, THREE WITH THE PARKING PROVIDED AND THEN
06:37:37 THE VISITOR SPACE AND THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ON TO
06:37:42 NORTH HABANA AVENUE AS YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT DOORS
06:37:44 LABELED HERE.
06:37:45 THESE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WITH THE
06:37:47 SITE PLAN.
06:37:48 THE FRONT ELEVATION OVER HERE.
06:37:50 THE REAR, THE SIDE, AND THE RIGHT SIDE WHICH ARE
06:37:56 REQUESTED TO BE PLACED AS CARDINAL DIRECTIONS BETWEEN
06:37:59 FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE REVISION SHEET.
06:38:01 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE, THE TWO PHOTOS, AND THEN THE
06:38:06 NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST, ACROSS HABANA.
06:38:11 THE NORTH NEIGHBORS, RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT SINGLE-FAMILY
06:38:16 DWELLING UNITS AND EAST NEIGHBOR GOING DOWN THE STREET
06:38:19 FACING EAST.
06:38:20 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
06:38:23 APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:38:26 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

06:38:27 IN THE EVENT CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE REQUESTED WAIVERS
06:38:30 THAT ARE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE ADDITIONAL
06:38:33 MODIFICATIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
06:38:36 READING AS DEFINED OR SHOWN IN THE REVISION SHEET OF THE
06:38:39 STAFF REPORT AND STAFF -- PLANNING STAFF AS WELL AS
06:38:43 NATURAL RESOURCES AND TRANSPORTATION ARE AVAILABLE FOR
06:38:45 ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
06:38:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:38:50 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
06:38:51 HEARING NONE, WE HAVE THE PETITIONERS ON.
06:38:57 IF YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT, PLEASE.
06:38:59 MR. ALVAREZ.
06:39:05 >> AGAIN, JUST KIND OF REITERATING AGAIN VERY BASIC
06:39:10 CONCEPT HERE.
06:39:11 WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE OF THE LAND IN THE
06:39:14 WEST TAMPA AREA BY OUR ASK OF CMU-35.
06:39:18 WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE THE COMPS UP IN THE AREA.
06:39:22 WE LOVE INVESTING AND GROWING THE AREA.
06:39:26 WE HOPE THIS TO BE A SPLASH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:39:30 WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HEARING AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE
06:39:36 JENNIFER MALONE AND MR. RYAN MANASSE FOR PRESENTING ON
06:39:41 OUR BEHALF.
06:39:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
06:39:43 PETITIONER?
06:39:43 MR. DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD, SIR.

06:39:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:39:47 THANK YOU TO THE PETITIONER AND THEIR ENGINEER FOR THIS
06:39:52 GOOD PRESENTATION.
06:39:59 I GUESS THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO LOAD FROM THE REAR.
06:40:04 COME AROUND KATHLEEN AND THEN TURN UP A COMMON DRIVEWAY,
06:40:08 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. ENGINEER?
06:40:11 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
06:40:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND SINCE YOU GUYS, AS YOU DESCRIBED,
06:40:20 YOUNG DEVELOPERS, I WAS CURIOUS, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH
06:40:23 THE CITY'S FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE?
06:40:27 >> NO, SIR.
06:40:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
06:40:30 ENGINEER, WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN?
06:40:33 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES WITH HIGH POINT ENGINEERING.
06:40:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE, JUST VERY
06:40:44 QUICKLY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN WORK HERE.
06:40:46 MAYBE YOU CAN MODIFY YOUR SITE PLAN AFTER THE FACT.
06:40:55 >> BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:40:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POSSIBLY.
06:40:58 WE TRY AND INCENTIVIZE BUILDERS TO USE -- TO INCLUDE
06:41:04 FRONT PORCHES WHERE POSSIBLE.
06:41:06 WHAT WE DO IS WE ALLOW TO YOU INTRUDE INTO THE SETBACK
06:41:10 WITHOUT -- WITH A LEGITIMATE FRONT PORCH.
06:41:15 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCEPT IS.
06:41:19 I KNOW YOU HAVE LIMITED SPACE AND ALL THAT.

06:41:21 I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPRESSIVE DESIGN AND A GOOD LOCATION
06:41:24 FOR THIS PROJECT.
06:41:25 I'M VERY FAMILIAR -- WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
06:41:31 HABANA IS BUSY AND OBVIOUSLY COLUMBUS IS VERY BUSY.
06:41:34 ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT, IF NOT FOR
06:41:38 THIS PROJECT, PLEASE LOOK INTO IT AND FOR FUTURE
06:41:42 PROJECTS, AND MAYBE MR. MANASSE CAN INFORM YOU ABOUT IT
06:41:48 AT A LATER DATE.
06:41:50 BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE.
06:41:53 JUST TO COUNCIL AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC INTEREST, AND I
06:41:55 KNOW, CHARLIE, YOU'LL APPRECIATE THIS, BUT I WAS WALKING
06:41:59 DOOR TO DOOR TWO BLOCKS NORTH OF HERE, AND I KNOCKED ON
06:42:03 THE LADY'S DOOR AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE LOU PINIELLA'S
06:42:08 FAMILY HOUSEHOLD, CORDELIA STREET, AND I REMEMBER
06:42:14 CHATTING WITH HIS MOTHER.
06:42:15 THAT WAS LIKE 20 YEARS AGO, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
06:42:18 BUT IT WAS KIND OF A BIG THRILL.
06:42:20 EVENTUALLY I SEE THE CITY NAMED THAT PARK, THAT LITTLE
06:42:23 BALLPARK LOU PINIELLA PARK.
06:42:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HIS BROTHER LIVES THERE NOW.
06:42:27 HE'S USUALLY OUT SITTING IN THE DRIVEWAY OR IN THE
06:42:30 CARPORT.
06:42:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, TO THE ALVAREZ FAMILY, GOOD
06:42:35 LUCK WITH THAT.
06:42:36 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

06:42:39 >> WE WILL CONSIDER FUTURE PORCHES ON POTENTIALLY THIS
06:42:42 PROJECT IF WE'VE GOT THE ROOM.
06:42:44 I'D LOVE TO PLEASE THE CITY AND ON FUTURE PROJECTS, WE'LL
06:42:47 DEFINITELY PUT THAT ON THE RADAR.
06:42:48 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
06:42:52 THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT POLICY OR CODE SECTION
06:42:56 DOESN'T APPLY TO A PD.
06:42:58 IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SHOWN ON THE MANAGED DEVELOPMENT.
06:43:01 I BELIEVE WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS THE RS-50 AND IN
06:43:05 SOME CASES DESIGN EXCEPTION, RS 60 OF FRONT PORCH
06:43:09 INTRUSION, WHICH IS EITHER ALLOWED PER CODE OR DONE
06:43:13 ADMINISTRATIVELY.
06:43:13 BUT IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED FOR THIS PD.
06:43:16 WHAT IS BEING SHOWN THE PROVIDED SETBACKS AND THE DESIGN
06:43:19 AND OUTLINE OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURE.
06:43:21 I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT CLEAR.
06:43:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, WHEN I CAME BACK TO COUNCIL A
06:43:28 YEAR AGO, I MADE A MOTION AND I GUESS IT'S STILL PENDING
06:43:32 TO MODIFY THE CODE TO EXPAND THE USE OF THE FRONT PORCH
06:43:35 AMENDMENT INTO THE OTHER ZONING CATEGORIES.
06:43:36 I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THAT, BUT THAT'S A
06:43:39 DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER NIGHT.
06:43:41 ANYWAY, IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
06:43:42 IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S AVAILABLE ON THIS ONE, MR. AND
06:43:46 MRS. ALVAREZ.

06:43:47 BUT DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK IT'S REALLY A NEAT IDEA.
06:43:50 I THINK COUNCIL IS EXCITED BY IT TO ENCOURAGE FRONT
06:43:53 PORCHES FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
06:43:55 BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE INVESTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
06:43:59 HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT
06:44:03 DOWN THE ROAD.
06:44:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:44:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
06:44:07 THE PETITIONERS?
06:44:08 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON
06:44:13 ITEM NUMBER 22?
06:44:15 WHETHER REGISTERED OR IN PERSON AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
06:44:20 >>THE CLERK: WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIVE SPEAKERS NOR AT THE
06:44:22 CONVENTION CENTER.
06:44:24 >> MOVE TO CLOSE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:44:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
06:44:27 DID THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, ANY
06:44:29 REBUTTAL, ANYTHING?
06:44:31 >> NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, RYAN, FOR HIS EXCELLENT
06:44:37 PRESENTATION.
06:44:38 AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
06:44:40 TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU.
06:44:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
06:44:46 MIRANDA.
06:44:47 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

06:44:48 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
06:44:50 THERE ANY OBJECTION TO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING?
06:44:52 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION,
06:44:58 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
06:45:01 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM
06:45:03 NUMBER 22?
06:45:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO AHEAD AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE TAKE
06:45:26 IT.
06:45:27 IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOT CUT OFF.
06:45:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE
06:45:30 TO TAKE IT OR COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA?
06:45:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL TAKE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:45:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:45:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
06:45:36 FILE NUMBER 22, REZ 20-67, MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED
06:45:41 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING
06:45:43 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3007 NORTH HABANA
06:45:46 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
06:45:49 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
06:45:52 CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD,
06:45:55 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED;
06:45:57 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:45:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
06:46:03 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
06:46:04 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

06:46:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:46:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:46:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:46:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:46:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:46:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:46:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:46:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:46:24 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22 AT
06:46:28 5:01 P.M.
06:46:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:46:33 WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
06:46:35 WE HAVE MR. PERRY SULLIVAN.
06:46:37 SIR, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND WE'LL
06:46:41 START SWEARING EVERYBODY IN FOR ITEM NUMBER 10.
06:46:45 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
06:46:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:46:48 >> IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AS CLOSE TO 6:00 AND I
06:46:51 KNOW IT'S 6:46, WE WERE GOING TO GO AND TRY TO DO ALL THE
06:46:55 SECOND READINGS.
06:46:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THAT.
06:47:01 THOSE SHOULD GO SMOOTHLY.
06:47:03 YOU'RE RIGHT.
06:47:04 WE'LL JUMP TO ITEM NUMBER 14 THEY ARE SECOND READINGS.
06:47:10 WE HAVE A FEW.

06:47:11 I THINK SIX OR SEVEN.
06:47:13 ITEM 14, WHICH IS A SECOND READING.
06:47:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE PETITIONER PRESENT?
06:47:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PETITIONER FOR ITEM NUMBER 14.
06:47:31 >>THE CLERK: YES, MR. CHRIS HENNES.
06:47:35 HE NEEDS TO UNMUTE HIMSELF AND TURN ON HIS CAMERA.
06:47:46 >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS ABSENT AT A COUPLE OF THE VOTES BUT
06:47:48 I READ THROUGH THE FILES SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING ON
06:47:51 THEM.
06:47:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MR. HEMMINGS ON THE LINE.
06:47:56 GO AHEAD.
06:48:01 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
06:48:04 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WOULD TELL THE TRUTH, THE
06:48:06 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
06:48:08 >> YES.
06:48:09 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
06:48:10 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE -- WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:48:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:48:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:48:18 WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN?
06:48:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:48:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, I JUST
06:48:29 WANTED TO REFRESH COUNCIL'S MEMORY ABOUT THIS ONE.
06:48:32 THIS IS IN ARMORY GARDENS.
06:48:33 I'M NOT TESTIFYING BUT I'M JUST LOCATING EVERYBODY TO

06:48:36 WHERE WE WERE.
06:48:38 2709 WEST NORTH B.
06:48:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT
06:48:44 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, BUT IS THIS PART OF A
06:48:47 PRESENTATION?
06:48:48 I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO --
06:48:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS THE INITIATION OF MY MOTION TO
06:48:55 OPPOSE THE REZONING.
06:48:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE
06:49:01 FOLKS HERE FIRST.
06:49:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THOUGHT THIS WAS SECOND READING.
06:49:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS.
06:49:05 BUT THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
06:49:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME.
06:49:10 THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF -- COUNCIL TO HAVE
06:49:13 QUESTIONS OF STAFF, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MR. HEMMINGS TO
06:49:15 MAKE A PRESENTATION TO ADDRESS PERHAPS SOME CONCERNS AND
06:49:18 POINTS HE WANTS TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND
06:49:21 CERTAINLY QUESTIONS AVAILABLE TO BE ASKED BY CITY COUNCIL
06:49:24 OF THE PETITIONER AND THEN ALLOW THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE
06:49:29 CAN BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ISSUES AFTER THAT.
06:49:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. SAMANIEGO, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND
06:49:34 UP THERE?
06:49:34 YES.
06:49:35 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.

06:49:37 PER PROCEDURE, MARY SAMANIEGO.
06:49:38 THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR EUCLIDEAN REZONING, SO
06:49:41 THERE IS NO SITE PLAN.
06:49:43 I DEFER TO THE APPLICANT.
06:49:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:49:45 MR. HEMMINGS.
06:49:46 YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.
06:49:58 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
06:50:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
06:50:03 >> ARE YOU ASKING WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING OR --
06:50:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING
06:50:08 YOUR APPLICATION, ANYTHING TO SAY, ANY PRESENTATION?
06:50:13 >> NO, WE APPRECIATED CITY COUNCIL APPROVING OUR FIRST
06:50:18 READING, AND WE HOPE THEY WOULD VOTE FAVORABLY IN THIS
06:50:25 READING.
06:50:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:50:28 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
06:50:29 ANYBODY ELSE?
06:50:30 DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 14?
06:50:33 ITEM NUMBER 14.
06:50:39 >>THE CLERK: NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIVE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK
06:50:42 ON THIS ITEM.
06:50:43 I'M SORRY.
06:50:44 CORRECTION.
06:50:45 WE DO HAVE A LIVE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.

06:50:47 YES.
06:50:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
06:50:50 >>THE CLERK: THERE IS NO ONE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER BUT
06:50:53 WE DO HAVE A LIVE SPEAKER.
06:50:54 I'M PULLING OVER SANDRA SANCHEZ.
06:50:56 SHE NEEDS TO UNMUTE HERSELF AND TURN ON HER VIDEO.
06:51:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:51:01 MS. SANCHEZ, IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND UNMUTE
06:51:04 YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
06:51:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER SHE'S SWORN, PLEASE.
06:51:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:51:13 MS. SANCHEZ, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR
06:51:38 CAMERA, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN SO YOU CAN
06:51:41 SPEAK.
06:51:42 THERE SHE IS.
06:51:51 ALL RIGHT, MS. SANCHEZ, WE SAW YOU.
06:51:54 THERE YOU GO.
06:52:07 WE CAN SEE YOU.
06:52:08 ARE YOU UNMUTED?
06:52:09 PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE.
06:52:14 ARE YOU GETTING I.T. HELP?
06:52:27 >>THE CLERK: SHE'S UNMUTED.
06:52:29 I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.
06:52:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. SANCHEZ, IF YOU COULD SAY
06:52:33 SOMETHING, IF WE COULD HEAR YOU.

06:52:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE IS TRYING TO GET SOME HELP, I THINK.
06:53:10 >>THE CLERK: MS. SANCHEZ, YOU MAY WANT TO CONNECT VIA
06:53:14 YOUR COMPUTER AUDIO BECAUSE THE PHONE IS NOT WORKING.
06:53:17 WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.
06:53:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYBE WE SHOULD HOLD THIS
06:53:53 FOR A LITTLE BIT.
06:53:54 >> YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE ME FOR FIVE MINUTES.
06:53:57 MY MOTHER IS DROPPING OFF MY SON.
06:54:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, ON
06:54:16 A NOTE OF LEVITY, IF WE'RE STILL DOING THIS COME
06:54:20 HALLOWEEN, WE SHOULD ALL DRESS UP FOR THE OCCASION.
06:54:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A FEW COSTUMES.
06:54:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GUDES, COME ON.
06:54:32 YOU HAVE A FOOTBALL HELMET OR SOMETHING YOU CAN WEAR.
06:54:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'VE GOT MY MASK.
06:54:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PERFECT, CITRO IS READY.
06:54:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN CALL HIM DR. CITRO.
06:54:45 HE HAS HIS SURGICAL MASK.
06:54:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DR. CITRO, MD.
06:54:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARTY, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DRESS UP
06:54:57 AS?
06:54:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
06:54:59 I'LL HAVE TO GIVE IT THOUGHT.
06:55:00 WE SEE MS. SANCHEZ NOW.
06:55:03 WE JUST CAN'T HEAR HER.

06:55:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE?
06:55:07 COULD WE PUT YOU IN A ROBE AND A WIG?
06:55:13 >> NO THANKS.
06:55:13 >>THE CLERK: WHAT I DID IS CONNECT HER VIA MY LINE.
06:55:17 YOU CAN SEE HER ON MUTE, BUT SHE'S ABLE TO SPEAK.
06:55:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. SANCHEZ, CAN YOU HEAR US?
06:55:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ASSUME THE ANSWER IS NO.
06:55:40 >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
06:55:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:55:43 GO AHEAD.
06:55:43 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
06:55:44 THEY ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
06:55:46 >> OH, OKAY.
06:55:47 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE
06:55:50 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
06:55:54 >> I DO.
06:55:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:55:55 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:55:56 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
06:55:58 >> MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHEZ.
06:56:00 I LIVE AT 2705 WEST FIG STREET IN THE ARMORY GARDENS
06:56:04 COMMUNITY.
06:56:06 NEIGHBORHOOD OF NARROW STREETS AND OCCASIONAL SIDEWALKS.
06:56:10 I KNOW YOU MUST BE TIRED BECAUSE I AM BECAUSE I LISTEN TO
06:56:13 ALL THE REPORTS ON THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE POLICE

06:56:16 DEPARTMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY
06:56:22 AND THE OFFICERS IN TAMPA.
06:56:23 I KNOW MANY STATISTICS CENTERED AROUND CRIME, BUT THERE'S
06:56:30 ONE CONTINUALLY IGNORED AND TRAFFIC ISSUES IN OUR
06:56:35 NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:56:36 THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:56:39 THIS IS WHY WE'RE AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE FOR RM 16,
06:56:47 2709 NORTH B.
06:56:50 EVERY TIME YOU ALLOW SOME CHANGE FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING,
06:56:53 YOU PUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT RISK.
06:56:55 YOUR CONSTITUENTS JEOPARDIZE THEIR SAFETY AT THE TIME
06:56:59 THEY HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE CARS TO WALK AROUND THE
06:57:01 BLOCK OR GET TO THE VILA BROTHERS PARK.
06:57:04 THE ADDITION OF THE THREE HOMES WOULD ADD MORE CARS TO
06:57:07 OUR STREETS.
06:57:08 THE REQUEST FOR 2709 WEST FIG MAY APPEAR TO BE JUST BE
06:57:13 TWO MORE HOMES, BUT THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE OVERALL
06:57:18 PICTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:57:19 LET'S JUST TAKE THIS ONE BLOCK OF FIG STREET BETWEEN
06:57:24 ARRAWANA AND HABANA.
06:57:26 FIVE YEARS AGO, THERE WERE 12 SINGLE-FAMILY OLDER HOMES
06:57:28 WITH ONE OR TWO CARS PER HOME.
06:57:30 TODAY, THERE ARE 15 HOMES.
06:57:32 TWO TO THREE CARS APIECE, 30 CARS ON THE BLOCK.
06:57:37 IF YOU ADD ANOTHER THREE CARS -- THREE HOMES, THAT WILL

06:57:41 LEAVE -- GIVE US 18 HOMES FOR THE ADDITION OF 36 TO 40
06:57:50 CARS IN JUST ONE BLOCK.
06:57:52 IMAGINE IF THAT WAS ON EVERY BLOCK ON THE STREET.
06:57:55 THAT IS WHY WE, THE ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY ASK THAT YOU
06:57:59 DENY THE PETITION.
06:58:00 THIS ISN'T JUST TWO MORE HOMES THAT YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE
06:58:05 FALSE BELIEF THAT THESE ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
06:58:07 NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:58:08 JUST AS A SIDEBAR, THE NEWEST HOME ON THIS BLOCK OVER
06:58:12 $610,000.
06:58:14 THE CONDOS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THESE PLANNED HOMES SELL
06:58:18 FOR 24 AND 25 THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH.
06:58:25 PARKING FOR THE CONDOS IS THROUGH THE ALLEY.
06:58:27 THEY DO NOT CLUTTER THE STREETS.
06:58:30 DO YOU THINK ADDING PARKING ISSUES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
06:58:32 WILL INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE?
06:58:34 I THINK NOT.
06:58:35 IN OCTOBER, A NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOP WAS SCHEDULED TO
06:58:37 ADDRESS OVERCROWDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:58:39 I HOPE YOU WILL BE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO COMPLAINTS
06:58:41 FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
06:58:43 WE UNDERSTAND THAT -- FAMILY HOUSES NEEDED BUT THERE ARE
06:58:48 WAYS TO COMPROMISE WITH THE COMMUNITIES ON SOME SIMPLE
06:58:51 ADJUSTMENTS.
06:58:52 EITHER MOVING THE STRUCTURE BACK FIVE TO TEN FEET OR HAVE

06:58:55 THE PARKING IN THE BACK.
06:58:59 -- IF I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO DENY THE PETITION FOR THE
06:59:01 ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY.
06:59:03 THANK YOU.
06:59:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:59:05 DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, MADAM CLERK?
06:59:10 >>THE CLERK: NO, WE DON'T.
06:59:11 THAT WAS THE ONLY SPEAKER WE HAD REGISTERED.
06:59:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOBODY IS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
06:59:18 >>THE CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
06:59:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:59:20 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANYTHING FROM
06:59:23 MR. HEMMINGS?
06:59:27 >> YES, THANK YOU.
06:59:29 I WOULD JUST SAY I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT CARS
06:59:33 ON THE STREET.
06:59:36 OUR SITE PLAN CALLS FOR TWO-CAR GARAGES WITH FULL
06:59:42 DRIVEWAYS FOR THE THREE TOWNHOME UNITS.
06:59:47 AND THERE WILL BE PARKING FOR FOUR CARS FOR EACH UNIT
06:59:51 WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE LOT.
06:59:55 WE DON'T ANTICIPATE PARKING ON THE STREET EVER.
07:00:01 SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT COUNCIL WILL TAKE A LOOK AT OUR SITE
07:00:05 PLAN AND KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ADD TRAFFIC
07:00:10 PARKING ON THE STREET.
07:00:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

07:00:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:00:15 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
07:00:16 ANYTHING ELSE?
07:00:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:00:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
07:00:23 LET ME ASK OUR ESTEEMED LEGAL COUNSEL, I DON'T DOUBT MR.
07:00:28 HEMMINGS THAT HE HAS A SITE PLAN, BUT IN REGARD FROM A
07:00:32 LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, LOOKING
07:00:36 TO INCREASE FROM RM-16 TO RM-18 SO HE CAN GO FROM TWO
07:00:40 UNITS TO THREE UNITS.
07:00:42 AND AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HE'S TOLD US, BUT IT'S NOT SITE
07:00:45 PLAN CONTROLLED ZONING.
07:00:49 I GUESS HOW RELEVANT IS THE TESTIMONY THAT MR. HEMMINGS
07:00:53 JUST GAVE US ABOUT THE GARAGES?
07:00:59 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY
07:01:01 ATTORNEY.
07:01:02 AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS NOT SITE PLAN CONTROLLED.
07:01:04 THEY ARE SEEKING TO REZONE TO EUCLIDEAN ZONING.
07:01:09 YOU GET TO DETERMINE THE WEIGHT OF THE EVIDENCE YOU GIVE
07:01:12 TO WHAT YOU HEARD THIS EVENING.
07:01:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION, COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVE A
07:01:17 QUESTION OF STAFF RELATIVE TO WHAT CAN BE BUILT, RELATIVE
07:01:20 TO GARAGES, RELATIVE TO THE REQUIREMENT OF A GARAGE, THE
07:01:25 EXPERT TESTIMONY THAT YOU HAVE IS AVAILABLE TO YOU,
07:01:27 ASSUMING THEY ARE ONLINE.

07:01:29 I DON'T SEE THEM.
07:01:30 I SEE MARY SAMANIEGO.
07:01:32 SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD ASK YOU TO DIRECT TO
07:01:35 STAFF TO GET THEIR TESTIMONY AS TO YOUR CONCERN, AS TO AN
07:01:38 ADVERSE IMPACT RELATIVE TO WHAT THE PETITIONER HAS TOLD
07:01:41 YOU AND WHETHER THAT IS BINDING.
07:01:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'D ASK THAT QUESTION OF MS. SAMANIEGO.
07:01:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED.
07:01:56 MARY, YOU ARE MUTED.
07:01:57 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
07:01:59 I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT'S LEGALLY BINDING OR NOT, MR.
07:02:02 SHELBY.
07:02:02 WHEN ANY APPLICATION COMES IN FOR ANY TYPE OF
07:02:07 DEVELOPMENT, ALL REQUIRED PARKING MUST BE ON-SITE.
07:02:11 SO IF THIS APPLICATION IS TO DO THREE TOWNHOME UNITS, A
07:02:15 MINIMUM OF SEVEN REQUIRED ON-SITE PARKING SPACES WOULD BE
07:02:19 REQUIRED TO BE PLACED ON THEIR SITE.
07:02:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN A GARAGE, BUT
07:02:26 CERTAINLY A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS YOUR
07:02:29 TESTIMONY?
07:02:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
07:02:31 EITHER A COMBINATION OF A DRIVEWAY OR A GARAGE THAT MEETS
07:02:34 CODE.
07:02:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF, MR.
07:02:39 DINGFELDER OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?

07:02:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:02:43 SO RIGHT NOW, JUST TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, THE CATEGORY
07:02:48 THAT HE IS IN, WHICH IS RM-16, IS -- ALLOWS FOR TWO UNITS
07:02:55 AS A MATTER OF RIGHT, CORRECT, MS. SAMANIEGO?
07:02:59 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
07:03:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED
07:03:02 FOR THOSE TWO UNITS?
07:03:04 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: FIVE.
07:03:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE SAME PARCEL, IF HE GETS THE
07:03:09 REZONING TO RM-18, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD HE BE ALLOWED?
07:03:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THREE.
07:03:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO THAT WOULD BE
07:03:20 SEVEN CARS.
07:03:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
07:03:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE SAME PARCEL.
07:03:25 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
07:03:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE
07:03:29 GET INTO THESE TOWNHOME SITUATIONS THAT WE END UP WITH
07:03:32 PARKING ON THE STREET?
07:03:32 VISITORS, ET CETERA?
07:03:38 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IT'S MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE THAT WE
07:03:41 CANNOT REGULATE HOW MANY PHYSICAL CARS A GIVEN PROPERTY
07:03:45 OWNER HAS.
07:03:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
07:03:49 OKAY.

07:03:49 SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AS RELATED
07:03:54 TO TOWNHOMES AND SEEING THAT VISITORS OR EVEN OWNERS
07:03:59 THEMSELVES END UP PARKING ON THE STREET SOMETIMES?
07:04:04 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I CAN'T TESTIFY TO THAT EFFECT, SIR.
07:04:05 AS I'M DRIVING, IN MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, I CANNOT
07:04:09 DETERMINE IF A CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF A TOWN HOME IS THE
07:04:13 PROPERTY OWNER, A GUEST, OR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE
07:04:15 DOWN THE STREET.
07:04:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
07:04:16 THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.
07:04:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:04:18 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
07:04:20 COUNCIL MEMBER -- MR. SHELBY.
07:04:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW WE GO BACK TO MR. HEMMINGS TO BE
07:04:26 ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT, UNLESS THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS
07:04:28 OF COUNCIL, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME, AND THEN TO GIVE THE
07:04:31 PETITIONER THE LAST WORD OF REBUTTAL, IF ANY.
07:04:35 HIS CHOICE.
07:04:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HEMMINGS, ANY RESPONSE, ANYTHING
07:04:39 TO ADD?
07:04:42 >> I WILL SAY I'VE ENGAGED AN ARCHITECT TO DEVELOP THE
07:04:46 SITE PLAN AND RENDERINGS AND FRANKLY HAVE PAID FOR
07:04:50 CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
07:04:51 THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS DO CALL FOR TWO-CAR GARAGES FOR
07:04:55 EACH UNIT, AND THAT IS THE RENDERING AND SITE PLAN WE

07:05:00 PRESENTED TO THE CITY.
07:05:05 NOT TO SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MYSELF, BUT MY CHANCE OF ME
07:05:13 CHANGING THE FACADE OR THE PLAN OF HAVING GARAGES THERE
07:05:19 ARE PROBABLY SLIM TO ZERO.
07:05:22 WE'RE GOING TO BUILD WHAT WE PRESENTED, IF WE'RE ALLOWED
07:05:26 TO.
07:05:27 I CAN ASSURE YOU -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARY OR
07:05:31 IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT IN WRITING, BUT THERE WILL BE
07:05:34 TWO-CAR GARAGES WITH DRIVEWAYS IN EACH OF THESE TOWNHOME
07:05:39 UNITS.
07:05:39 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS REASSURE COUNCIL THAT WE'RE
07:05:45 TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
07:05:47 THAT WOULD LEAVE ROUGHLY 12 PARKING SPACES VERSUS SEVEN.
07:05:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:05:58 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:05:59 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
07:06:05 >> SO MOVED.
07:06:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
07:06:10 CARLSON.
07:06:10 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:06:13 ANY OBJECTION?
07:06:13 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS
07:06:18 CLOSED.
07:06:19 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I THINK YOU HAVE A MOTION TO DENY,
07:06:22 IS THAT CORRECT?

07:06:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:06:24 I WAS ABOUT TO SAY YES, YOUR HONOR.
07:06:25 YOU JUST GOT A PROMOTION.
07:06:27 WITH ALL DO RESPECT TO MR. HEMMINGS, SEEMS LIKE A NICE
07:06:34 GUY, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO OUR DECISION.
07:06:37 AT FIRST HEARING, WE HEARD TESTIMONY, AND WE LOOKED
07:06:42 EXTENSIVELY AT THE MAPS, AND NOT ONLY IS THIS BLOCK DOES
07:06:49 NOT -- AS MY RECOLLECTION, DID NOT HAVE THE RM-18, BUT AS
07:06:54 YOU GO NORTH, IT WAS MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY AND SOME RM-16,
07:07:00 BUT NO RM-18.
07:07:02 ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE ALLOWING RM-18.
07:07:06 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY COMPETENT EVIDENCE
07:07:10 TO SUBSTANTIATE THAT.
07:07:12 WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE TO DENY REZ 20-55 FOR THE PROPERTY
07:07:18 LOCATED AT 2709 WEST NORTH B IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
07:07:22 FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 --
07:07:27 EXCUSE ME.
07:07:28 DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF
07:07:30 PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE
07:07:34 RECORD, THAT THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP
07:07:36 PLAN AND THE CITY CODE.
07:07:38 SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD POINT TO THE FACTS AS I STATED A
07:07:46 MINUTE AGO, THAT INCONSISTENT AND INCOMPATIBLE, EVEN
07:07:51 THOUGH THE COMP PLAN MIGHT ALLOW THIS, OKAY, WHAT THE
07:07:54 COMP PLAN ALLOWS IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE OF.

07:08:01 THAT'S BASIC ZONING LAW.
07:08:02 THE COMP PLAN PROVIDES A MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR THAT PARCEL.
07:08:07 JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THERE, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT
07:08:13 WE NEED TO APPROVE IT.
07:08:14 WE NEED TO LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY.
07:08:17 AND THEN DURING THE COVID, I THINK PEOPLE ARE HAVING A
07:08:20 HARD TIME COMING OUT AND ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS.
07:08:24 EVEN MS. SANCHEZ, WHO IS VERY, VERY SHARP WAS HAVING
07:08:28 TECHNICAL PROBLEMS.
07:08:32 I'M READING -- I'M GOING TO OFFER SOME OF THESE LETTERS
07:08:35 AS PART OF THE RECORD, MR. SHELBY.
07:08:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE PART -- MR. DINGFELDER, JUST A
07:08:41 REMINDER, THE WRITTEN MATERIAL IS PART OF THE RECORD.
07:08:46 THEY HAVE BEEN UPLOADED TO THE CITY'S SITE AND THEY HAVE
07:08:50 BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND THE PETITIONER.
07:08:52 MS. AMATOES, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AS THE
07:08:56 CLERK?
07:08:57 >> NORMALLY, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FEEL THE NEED TO
07:08:59 ADDRESS THESE.
07:09:00 FOR EXAMPLE, MR. BARRY JACOBS SAYS, MY WIFE IS PREGNANT.
07:09:04 WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE SAFE TO ATTEND THIS HEARING
07:09:06 IN PERSON; HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A COMMENT.
07:09:09 WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS REZONING FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
07:09:11 HE SAID THAT THEY ARE OPPOSED TO THE CHANGING OF THE LOOK
07:09:15 AND FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

07:09:16 WE BOUGHT IN THIS AREA, MAINLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
07:09:19 IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT THERE COULD BE A DUPLEX, BUT WE DO
07:09:24 NOT WITH WISH TO BE SURROUNDED BY ANY MORE
07:09:27 NONSINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
07:09:28 IN THIS CASE, HE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO DUPLEX, BUT WANTS
07:09:35 TO DO A TRIPLEX.
07:09:36 LIKEWISE, MS. DANA JACOBS, LOOKS LIKE PART OF THE SAME
07:09:40 FAMILY.
07:09:42 >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN AND WITH ALL DUE
07:09:44 RESPECT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ALL OF THE WRITTEN
07:09:48 CORRESPONDENCE THAT WAS FILED PREVIOUSLY WAS RECEIVED AND
07:09:52 FILED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PREVIOUSLY AND WE DON'T
07:09:55 NORMALLY READ THE CORRESPONDENCE INTO THE RECORD.
07:10:00 THIS IS NOT TO BE DONE AT A SECOND READING, AND THE
07:10:05 WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED AND FILED.
07:10:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
07:10:08 MY PROBLEM, MS. WELLS -- AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.
07:10:12 MR. SHELBY IS ALWAYS TELLING US WE NEED TO STATE ON THE
07:10:14 RECORD, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BASIS, THE FACTUAL BASIS IS
07:10:20 FOR MY DENIAL.
07:10:21 AND I WAS GOING TO GET TO MR. HALLOMAN'S LETTERS ON THE
07:10:26 RECORD AND I THINK WE READ THIS AT FIRST READING, TRAFFIC
07:10:31 HAS INCREASED SINCE THE TWO STOP SIGNS WERE ADDED NEAR
07:10:34 HABANA.
07:10:35 SO THEY GOT TRAFFIC ISSUES.

07:10:37 THEY GOT PARKING ISSUES.
07:10:38 THEY ARE FEELING MORE AND MORE OVERCROWDED, AND MRS.
07:10:43 SANCHEZ, WHO IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT, TESTIFIED TO
07:10:46 THAT.
07:10:47 SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT
07:10:50 OUT, MS. WELLS.
07:10:51 I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR DENY.
07:10:53 I BELIEVE THAT THE FACTS ARE SUCH THAT WE HAVE HEARD,
07:10:57 SHOW THAT ALLOWING THREE UNITS WOULD INCREASE THE RM-18
07:11:01 IS INCONSISTENT AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING
07:11:05 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
07:11:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:11:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR FOR THE
07:11:13 RECORD, JUST SO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW.
07:11:15 AND YOU HAVE THE AGENDA IN FRONT OF YOU.
07:11:17 I SUGGEST THAT YOU DO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
07:11:19 BUT AT FIRST READING,
07:11:25 YOU DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PRESENTED FOR FIRST
07:11:27 READING, AND IT DID PASS, AND MAYBE WE CAN ASK THE
07:11:33 CLERK -- I WANT COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE
07:11:35 IT'S A DIFFERENT MOTION AT A SECOND READING.
07:11:37 THAT'S UNUSUAL.
07:11:37 AND IT HAS TO BE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
07:11:40 EVIDENCE.
07:11:40 SO WILL THE CLERK JUST RELAY WHAT THE VOTES WERE AT FIRST

07:11:44 READING?
07:11:44 >>THE CLERK: AT FIRST READING WAS DINGFELDER AND
07:11:48 MANISCALCO VOTING NO, AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
07:11:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN WOULD BE THAT
07:11:55 THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTED IN SUPPORT OF MOVING THIS
07:11:58 AT FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION WOULD BE COUNCIL
07:12:02 MEMBER MIRANDA, COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, COUNCIL MEMBER
07:12:07 VIERA, AND COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
07:12:09 SO COUNCIL, THE REASON I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION IS
07:12:13 YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT MOTION BEFORE YOU AT SECOND READING.
07:12:16 OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A QUESTION THEN AS TO WHAT YOU BASE
07:12:22 YOUR DECISIONS ON, AND I REMIND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE HEARD
07:12:26 TESTIMONY THIS TIME FROM MS. SANCHEZ, AND YOU HAVE TO
07:12:31 WEIGH HER TESTIMONY, BUT MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, TO
07:12:34 EACH OF YOU, IS TO, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF HOW YOU MIGHT
07:12:40 HAVE PREVIOUSLY VOTED, JUST KNOW THAT WHATEVER DECISION
07:12:42 YOU MAKE TONIGHT, YOU MAY HAVE TO AT SOME POINT IN TIME
07:12:46 DISCLOSE EXACTLY UPON AND WHAT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
07:12:51 EVIDENCE YOU MAY HAVE BASED YOUR VOTE ON.
07:12:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
07:12:55 MR. CHAIRMAN?
07:12:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.
07:12:58 I THINK THAT LITTLE DIALOGUE, ALTHOUGH IT WAS WELL
07:13:02 INTENDED, I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE OVER THE TOP.
07:13:06 WELL, LET ME JUST FINISH.

07:13:07 I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
07:13:10 INSTRUCTED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE THE SAME WAY AT
07:13:13 FIRST READING AS YOU DO IN SECOND READING, AND IF YOU
07:13:16 DID, THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT OF HAVING SECOND
07:13:18 READING?
07:13:19 SO IN THIS CASE, LET ME FINISH, IN THIS CASE, MRS.
07:13:23 SANCHEZ, A NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENT, WAS ABLE TO APPEAR THIS
07:13:27 TIME, SHE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY THAT NOBODY HEARD
07:13:31 THE LAST TIME, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ATTEMPT TO
07:13:34 CHILL ANYBODY FROM POSSIBLY CHANGING THEIR MIND BETWEEN
07:13:37 FIRST AND SECOND READING BASED UPON SOME NOTION THAT THEY
07:13:42 MAY HAVE TO TESTIFY ABOUT THEIR REASONING LATER.
07:13:44 >> AND YOU'RE TAKING ISSUE WITH THAT, AND I RESPECT THAT.
07:13:48 I TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT, AND MAYBE THAT WAS STATING
07:13:55 IT STRONGER THAN I HAVE.
07:13:58 BUT I DON'T WANT TO PREJUDICE -- IT'S NOT MY INTENTION.
07:14:02 I AM NEUTRAL.
07:14:03 I DON'T HAVE A STAKE IN THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE.
07:14:05 MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER VOTE YOU MAKE IS
07:14:10 THAT YOU ARE UNDERSTANDING YOUR CONTEXT, AND NOT JUST
07:14:14 LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND SEE HOW THE VOTE WAS TAKEN THE
07:14:17 FIRST TIME, AND ASSUME THAT IS THE SAME POSTURE THAT IS
07:14:20 COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY.
07:14:21 I DID NOT WANT ANY COUNCIL TO MAKE AN UNINFORMED VOTE.
07:14:24 I JUST ASKED YOU NOW THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE VOTE IS TO

07:14:26 DENY.
07:14:28 WAS THERE A SECOND, MADAM CLERK?
07:14:30 >>THE CLERK: YES.
07:14:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:14:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS THE SECOND ON THAT, BUT I WAS
07:14:38 GOING TO, BEFORE I VOTE, EXPLAIN WHY I MAY BE CHANGING MY
07:14:42 VOTE FOR THE RECORD.
07:14:43 I DID DRIVE, DUE TO THE NUMEROUS E-MAILS THAT WE
07:14:51 RECEIVED, I DID TAKE A DRIVE DOWN THERE YESTERDAY. I
07:14:51 DROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:14:55 AND AT FIRST, I DID NOT DRIVE DURING THE FIRST READING,
07:15:05 BUT SINCE I HAD SO MANY E-MAILS, I DROVE THE AREA.
07:15:08 AND I HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH MR. DINGFELDER, AND THE
07:15:11 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHETHER THESE TRIPLEXES AND THE NARROW
07:15:16 STREETS AND THE NUMBER OF CARS, I COULD BARELY GET MY
07:15:19 CADILLAC DOWN THE ROAD.
07:15:22 AND IT DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE PLAN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
07:15:25 FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, AND WHAT I SAW DRIVING THROUGH THE
07:15:28 NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:15:28 >>CATE WELLS: I ALSO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU HAVE
07:15:36 GOT TO MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON THE COMPETENT AND
07:15:38 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD OF THE HEARING AND NOT
07:15:40 ON YOUR PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS WHERE YOU ARE POTENTIALLY
07:15:42 INTERJECTING YOURSELF AS A WITNESS IN THE CASE.
07:15:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. VIERA.

07:15:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:15:49 AND I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN
07:15:53 EXPLAINED TO ME THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, WE
07:15:57 CHANGE -- AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO CHILL
07:16:00 ANYBODY.
07:16:03 IT IS WHAT IT IS, RIGHT?
07:16:04 BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THIS, IF THERE IS A CHANGE IN
07:16:08 VOTE, BECAUSE IT'S UNORTHODOX, IN MY THREE YEARS, AND WE
07:16:13 HAVE PEOPLE HERE A LOT LONGER, BUT I THINK IT'S
07:16:17 UNORTHODOX TO DENY AT SECOND READING ON SOMETHING THAT
07:16:20 PASSED THE FIRST TIME.
07:16:22 AT LEAST UNORTHODOX.
07:16:24 MAYBE IT'S NOT.
07:16:25 MAYBE I AM WRONG.
07:16:26 BUT TO BE CLEAR, MR. SHELBY, IF I MAY JUST FOR ALL OF US,
07:16:31 IF THERE IS A CHANGE IN VOTE, THAT INDIVIDUAL SHOULD BE
07:16:36 PREPARED TO STATE WHY HE OR SHE, OR LET'S FACE IT, DID SO
07:16:43 BASED UPON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
07:16:45 CORRECT?
07:16:46 IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT?
07:16:52 >> I HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE.
07:16:55 CREATING RULES THAT DON'T EXIST.
07:16:57 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M ASKING, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I'M
07:17:03 ASKING IF THAT IS THE RULE.
07:17:04 I'M NOT CREATING ANYTHING.

07:17:05 I AM ASKING OUR ATTORNEY WHOSE JOB IT IS TO ADVISE US OF
07:17:08 THE RULE, AND IF IT IS, I AM MERELY POSING AN INQUIRY.
07:17:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
07:17:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS -- THERE IS A PRESUMPTION AT A
07:17:20 SECOND READING -- AND BY THE WAY, I SHOULD JUST POINT OUT
07:17:25 FOR THE SAKE OF COUNCIL, TAMPA IS VERY UNUSUAL IN THE WAY
07:17:28 OF HOLDS PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION
07:17:31 WE WILL HAVE TO HOLD OFFLINE NOT IN THIS HEARING.
07:17:34 BULLET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU THIS.
07:17:36 THERE IS A PRESUMPTION THAT IF YOU CHANGE YOUR VOTE,
07:17:42 IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER YOU VOTED YAY OR NAY, BETWEEN
07:17:45 FIRST AND SECOND READING, THERE HAS TO BE A BASIS WITHIN
07:17:49 THE RECORD OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT CHANGED YOUR VOTE
07:17:56 THAT YOU WOULD BE AT SOME POINT, IF YOU WANTED TO PROTECT
07:18:00 THE RECORD, THAT YOU HAVE, SO IF A JUDGE REVIEWS YOUR
07:18:05 CASE AND LOOKS AT THE BASIS OF YOUR DECISION, YOU WOULD
07:18:08 BE ADVISED TO BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE TO YOUR COLLEAGUES
07:18:13 EXACTLY WHAT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT YOU
07:18:15 HEARD AT YOUR SECOND READING THAT CONSTITUTES YOUR CHANGE
07:18:18 OF VOTE.
07:18:20 THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
07:18:21 BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SUFFICIENT
07:18:27 RECORD SO WHEN IT GOES BEFORE A JUDGE, THE JUDGE WOULD BE
07:18:29 ABLE TO REVIEW IT, AND ULTIMATELY WHATEVER DECISION A
07:18:32 CITY COUNCIL MAKES, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE YOUR DECISION

07:18:35 UPHELD IF CHALLENGED.
07:18:37 SO THIS ADVICE IS BEING GIVEN TO YOU IN ORDER FOR YOU,
07:18:41 WHATEVER SIDE YOU ARE ON, FOR THE RECORD TO SUPPORT YOUR
07:18:45 POSITION.
07:18:49 THAT'S THE ONLY ADVICE I CAN OFFER.
07:18:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:18:52 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
07:18:54 YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.
07:18:58 UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.
07:19:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:19:04 NOTICING UNUSUAL HAPPENED UP TO THIS POINT IN MY OPINION.
07:19:06 WHEN MR. DINGFELDER, AND I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT, IT SO
07:19:16 HAPPENS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S UNUSUAL MAY NOT BE, WHEN
07:19:24 CERTAINLY RIGHT WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID, AND I AGREE
07:19:28 WITH HIM.
07:19:30 IN THIS CASE, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, AND HAVE THE
07:19:33 AUTHORITY TO SAY, I MOVE NOT TO APPROVE.
07:19:37 WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT NOW.
07:19:40 AND WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WHETHER IT'S LAW OR NOT
07:19:45 LAW, IT'S THE RIGHT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS THE RIGHT
07:19:48 TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.
07:19:50 HOWEVER, SAYING THAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS IS APPEALED?
07:20:00 THAT'S SETTLED NO COURT OF LAW.
07:20:01 AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS START.
07:20:03 I'M NOT A LAWYER.

07:20:04 AND I'M NOT AS SMART AS MOST OF YOU.
07:20:08 BUT I HAVE LEARNED MUCH ON THE STREET.
07:20:10 AND THIS IS A CASE THAT IS VERY PECULIAR, AND ALL THE
07:20:18 RAMIFICATIONS OF BOTH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY
07:20:21 STAFF, AND PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY WHAT THEY SAID.
07:20:23 IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL, THE SEVEN MEMBERS, TO VOTE ONE
07:20:28 WAY OR THE OTHER WAY.
07:20:29 AND I AM NOT BIASED.
07:20:31 VOTE AS HOW YOU FEEL.
07:20:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR.
07:20:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
07:20:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FOR THE
07:20:47 EDUCATION ON THAT ISSUE.
07:20:48 THANK YOU, SIR.
07:20:49 I APPRECIATE IT.
07:20:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
07:20:52 DINGFELDER.
07:20:53 DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?
07:21:00 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:21:02 CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE?
07:21:05 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
07:21:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:21:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:21:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:21:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:21:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
07:21:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
07:21:25 >> THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, CITRO AND MIRANDA
07:21:29 VOTING NO.
07:21:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:21:37 ONTO THE NEXT ITEM FOR SECOND READING.
07:21:40 ITEM NUMBER 15.
07:21:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD,
07:21:58 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND SPECIFICALLY KNOW THAT
07:22:01 WE HAVE AGREED WITH EACH OTHER TWICE TODAY.
07:22:03 SO I THINK WE NEED TO MARK IT ON OUR CALENDAR.
07:22:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING ON THE SECOND READINGS.
07:22:21 I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GO QUICKER.
07:22:23 LET'S TRY. ITEM NUMBER 15.
07:22:24 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:22:27 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
07:22:29 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:22:32 >> I DO.
07:22:33 >> AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN
07:22:36 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:22:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:22:39 COORDINATION.
07:22:40 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND ARE SUBMITTED TO
07:22:42 THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
07:22:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:22:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MR. GARDNER.
07:22:59 >>TRUETT GARDNER: YES.
07:23:00 AS YOU RECALL WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU IN AUGUST FOR THE
07:23:10 PROPERTY, AS MARY MENTIONED MADE ALL THE COMP PLAN
07:23:12 CHANGES THAT WERE REQUIRED [~AUDIO DISTORTION~].
07:23:19 THANK YOU.
07:23:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:23:20 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF THE PETITIONER?
07:23:24 HEARING NONE, WE HAVE A SPEAKER HERE.
07:23:33 >> I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
07:23:39 THEY SAID IT ALL.
07:23:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA
07:23:41 CONVENTION CENTER?
07:23:43 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED?
07:23:44 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK NOR AT THE CONVENTION
07:23:48 CENTER.
07:23:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:23:50 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
07:23:55 ALL RIGHT.
07:23:55 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
07:23:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
07:23:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:24:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:24:03 ANY OBJECTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
07:24:06 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, TAMPA PUBLIC HEARING

07:24:11 IS CLOSED.
07:24:13 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ITEM?
07:24:18 ITEM NUMBER 15.
07:24:19 >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL COUNCIL, IF --
07:24:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU AREN'T PREPARED OR READY TO
07:24:36 VOTE, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OR DO YOU
07:24:40 NEED AN ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION?
07:24:42 >>BILL CARLSON: I READ THE FILE, SIR.
07:24:46 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 20-43, ORDINANCE BEING
07:24:51 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
07:24:54 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1307 WEST
07:24:56 KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
07:24:58 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
07:25:01 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL AND
07:25:04 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, DAYCARE AND NURSERY
07:25:07 FACILITY, PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, HOTEL MOTEL
07:25:11 COLLEGE TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL AND BUSINESS
07:25:13 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, DAYCARE AND NURSERY FACILITY, HOTEL
07:25:17 MOTEL, NURSING AND CONVALESCENT CARE, PRINCIPAL PARKING,
07:25:21 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:25:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:25:25 ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:25:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:25:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:25:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

07:25:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:25:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:25:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:25:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:25:44 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:25:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:25:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO
07:25:54 RECOGNIZE MS. SULLIVAN AND TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL FOR ALL
07:25:57 THE HARD WORK THEY ALWAYS DO, AND ESPECIALLY IN THESE
07:26:01 VERY CHALLENGING TAMES, AND OF COURSE MR. GARDNER AS
07:26:06 WELL, BUT YOU DON'T COUNT AS MUCH.
07:26:08 BUT ANYWAY, TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL IS ONE OF THE JEWELS
07:26:14 OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND LIKE I SAY, WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL'S
07:26:19 HARD WORK.
07:26:19 >> I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
07:26:23 THANK YOU.
07:26:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, IT'S VERY NICE TO SEE YOU
07:26:27 AGAIN.
07:26:27 AND AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP THAT YOU AND YOUR
07:26:30 HOSPITAL GAVE ME WHEN YOU WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.
07:26:32 I DO APPRECIATE IT.
07:26:33 THANK YOU, MRS. ROBBINS.
07:26:36 THANK YOU.
07:26:36 >> ALWAYS CALL ON US IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.
07:26:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

07:26:43 HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
07:26:45 ITEM NUMBER 16.
07:27:00 ITEM NUMBER 16.
07:27:02 PETITIONER?
07:27:03 >> CHRIS AND MARY?
07:27:14 >> YEAH, HERE.
07:27:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:27:19 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
07:27:20 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
07:27:25 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:27:27 >> I DO.
07:27:28 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN
07:27:30 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM AND NO LIVE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
07:27:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:27:37 MARY SAMANIEGO.
07:27:38 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
07:27:44 2028 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.
07:27:45 AFTER THE FIRST READING THIS APPLICATION IT WAS
07:27:50 APPROPRIATE TO BE HEARD BY THE ARC FOR FORMAL
07:27:55 RECOGNITION.
07:27:56 THAT OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 14th AND THE ARC MADE SOME
07:28:00 RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE IT TO THE SITE PLAN ONE OF
07:28:03 WHICH WAS TO MOVE THE HOUSE FURTHER TO THE EAST AS CLOSE
07:28:08 AS POSSIBLE TO THE PROTECTED RADIUS OF THE TREE TO BE
07:28:12 RETAINED, THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REDUCE THE SIZE

07:28:17 OF THE DETACHED GARAGE TO 750 SQUARE FEET, AND THAT
07:28:26 CHANGES TO SCALE, HEIGHT AND WIDTH PROPORTION COMPARABLE
07:28:29 TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:28:30 THE APPLICANT AGREED TO THOSE CHANGES.
07:28:31 AND THOSE CHANGES AND THE CHANGE TO THE STAFF REPORT
07:28:37 EVERYBODY MADE TO THE SITE PLANS AND THOSE SITE PLANS
07:28:40 HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
07:28:42 THANK YOU.
07:28:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:28:43 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
07:28:45 NO?
07:28:46 PETITIONER?
07:28:49 MR. BECKWITH?
07:28:50 >> YES, I DON'T REMEMBER THE CHANGES, WE WENT TO THE ARC
07:28:56 MEETING AND MADE THOSE CHANGES TO THE PLAN.
07:28:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:29:00 MS. McCANN?
07:29:02 >> I WOULD LIKE TO GET PERMISSION TO OPEN.
07:29:07 I SENT IN A POWER POINT AND I DID REGISTER TO BE A LIVE
07:29:10 SPEAKER TONIGHT AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ MY COMMENTS.
07:29:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:29:15 >> IF I CAN GO TO MY POWER POINT THAT WAS SENT YESTERDAY.
07:29:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT SHOULD APPEAR ON THE SCREEN BUT
07:29:28 WAIT A MOMENT.
07:29:29 >> OKAY.

07:29:32 I AM READY.
07:29:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE YOUR SCREEN.
07:29:37 CAN YOU OPEN THE POWER POINT ON YOUR END?
07:29:40 >> YES, SIR.
07:29:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU DO THAT THEN WE WILL BE ABLE
07:29:42 TO SEE IT.
07:29:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:29:44 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
07:29:45 >> GOOD EVENING.
07:29:47 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN CONCERNS ABOUT
07:29:52 THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND DRIVEWAY PLACEMENT.
07:29:57 TO CREATE A BUILDABLE LOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WITH
07:30:01 STRAIGHTFORWARD GUIDANCE BY ERIC COTTON AND LACHONE DOCK.
07:30:07 WE ALSO WANT TO AMEND THE APPLICATION MAKING THE SITE
07:30:12 PLAN WITH THE LOT ZONING FOR RS-50 IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
07:30:18 DESIGN GUIDELINES.
07:30:21 THESE CHAPTER 27 REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME ONES, IN THE
07:30:26 HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE KIND OF APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE
07:30:29 NOT SEEN THE REVISED ONE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE
07:30:33 SITE -- ON THE PICTURES, IT DOES NOT DO THAT.
07:30:37 IN 2000 CITY COUNCIL CREATED THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC
07:30:42 DISTRICT AS A DESIGN CONTROLLED DISTRICT FOR SIDEWALKS,
07:30:45 AND MAKE SURE IT IS COMPATIBLE.
07:30:48 AS NOW THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO BLEND NEW WITH OLD IS TO
07:30:53 APPROXIMATE THE SETBACKS OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.

07:30:57 THAT'S WHAT IS SPECIFIED IN ALL LAND USE IN A HISTORIC
07:31:02 DISTRICT, AND SHOULD BE DONE.
07:31:04 IN THIS INSTANCE IF THEY MOVE THE HOUSE FORWARD TO THE
07:31:08 GUIDELINES PATTERN AND THE FRONT YARD SETBACK OF ADJACENT
07:31:11 PROPERTY.
07:31:12 IN MY GRAPHIC YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RANGE OF ADJACENT
07:31:15 DISTRICTS IS 31 FEET.
07:31:17 THE GUIDELINES ARE SPECIFIC.
07:31:19 THEY SAY THAT IT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE TO PLACE THE BUILDING
07:31:23 IN A LOCATION THAT IS DIFFERENT ON THE ADJACENT SITE.
07:31:30 MOVE THE DRIVEWAY OUT OF THE FRONT YARD NEXT TO ACCESSORY
07:31:34 STRUCTURES AND BEHIND THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE PER 27
07:31:38 SECTION 290.
07:31:39 YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WAS DONE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
07:31:43 HOW CRITICAL IS SIDE YARD TO IN-FILL COMPATIBILITY?
07:31:48 IT CANNOT BE OVEREMPHASIZED.
07:31:50 IT'S EVERYTHING.
07:31:51 AND IT'S THE SAME ISSUE THAT THE ARC RESOLUTION MAKES AND
07:31:58 SHOULD BE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD TO HELP PROVIDE
07:32:00 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL TESTIMONY.
07:32:03 AND I NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
07:32:08 IF SOMEBODY CAN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
07:32:11 WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS DOABLE.
07:32:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU CAN HIT THE
07:32:17 SECOND -- ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN YOU WILL HIT

07:32:20 THE NUMBER 2 SLIDE.
07:32:21 JUST CLICK ON IT.
07:32:22 >> OH, I SEE.
07:32:23 >> IT'S POSSIBLE TO SHOW WHAT CAN BE DONE FROM THIS LOT.
07:32:35 USING COMMON TREATMENTS THAT ARE COMMONLY USED IN SUCH
07:32:40 DRIVEWAY, FOUNDATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE STREETS.
07:32:52 THE EXISTING GUIDELINES FOR THE LOCATION AND ALL
07:32:56 STRUCTURES AND THE DRIVEWAY.
07:32:58 WE HAVE COME TO YOU IN THE PAST AND ASSISTANCE.
07:33:06 THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
07:33:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:33:08 ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
07:33:12 ITEM NUMBER 16?
07:33:14 >>THE CLERK: WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:33:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND ANYBODY --
07:33:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME.
07:33:21 DID I HEAR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MAKE ANY COMMENTS
07:33:25 REGARDING THIS CASE?
07:33:28 I DON'T RECALL.
07:33:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS TRYING TO CHIME IN, AND NUMBER
07:33:33 ITEM 16, 20-50?
07:33:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
07:33:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I ABSTAINED THE LAST TIME SO I WANT
07:33:43 TO ANNOUNCE MY ABSTENTION THIS TIME.
07:33:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOUR REASON FOR ABSTAINING, SIR?

07:33:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A BUSINESS CONFLICT.
07:33:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THIS A CONFLICT, AND YOU WILL BE
07:33:58 FILING THE APPROPRIATE FORM WITHIN THE 15 DAYS, IS THAT
07:34:01 CORRECT, SIR?
07:34:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.
07:34:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE TO SHARE
07:34:10 WITH YOU THAT THE SPEAKER WAS SIGNED IN AS THE
07:34:14 APPLICANT/OWNER AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS CORRECT.
07:34:20 BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD.
07:34:21 MR. BECKWITH, YOU ARE THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER, IS THAT
07:34:24 CORRECT?
07:34:25 >> THE APPLICANT, YES.
07:34:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE THE APPLICANT.
07:34:27 OKAY.
07:34:28 AND MR. CHAIRMAN, DID HE MAKE HIS PRESENTATION ALREADY,
07:34:30 OR DOES HE WANT TO MAKE HIS PRESENTATION NOW?
07:34:34 >> I DID.
07:34:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MADE YOUR PRESENTATION?
07:34:38 I'M SORRY.
07:34:39 >> I SAID A FEW WORDS.
07:34:40 I DON'T KNOW IF I AM GOING TO BE ABLE TO REBUT WHAT SHE
07:34:43 SAID.
07:34:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSOLUTELY, SIR.
07:34:45 YOU HAVE REBUTTAL TIME OF FIVE MINUTES.
07:34:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

07:34:48 >> I JUST WANT TO SAY --
07:34:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. BECKWITH.
07:34:54 HAVE WE CONFIRMED THERE IS NO ONE ELSE?
07:34:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS FAR AS I KNOW.
07:34:57 THERE'S NO ONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
07:35:00 >>THE CLERK: WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY LIVE NOR AT THE
07:35:03 CONVENTION CENTER.
07:35:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:35:05 MR. BECKWITH, YOU HAVE A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL PERIOD.
07:35:07 >> I WANT TO QUICKLY SAY I HAVE WORKED ON THIS SITE PLAN
07:35:11 MANY, MANY TIMES, I HAVE MOVED THINGS AROUND.
07:35:13 WE DID CHANGE IT.
07:35:14 WE MOVED THE HOUSE FORWARD.
07:35:15 WE DECREASED THE SIZE OF THE GARAGE TO WHAT THE ARC
07:35:18 WANTED.
07:35:20 I WOULD HAVE TO SHOW YOU TEN DIFFERENT PLANS TO TRY TO
07:35:22 MOVE SOME OF THAT STUFF BACK.
07:35:24 IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
07:35:25 THERE'S REALLY NOT THE ROOM.
07:35:26 IT'S A UNIQUE LOT.
07:35:29 I KNOW SOME PEOPLE SAY IT'S NOT.
07:35:30 BUT THE EAST PROPERTY LINE IS WHERE A STREET WOULD BE BUT
07:35:33 THAT'S NOT HOW THIS LOT IS SET UP.
07:35:35 COMING IN THERE, I HAVE TO DRIVE BETWEEN TWO TREES. IF
07:35:41 THE TREE WERE TO THE RIGHT I WOULD STILL HAVE TO DRIVE

07:35:45 AND TURN LEFT OR RIGHT.
07:35:47 IT JUST DIDN'T WORK.
07:35:48 SO I THINK WE HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF SETTING UP A
07:35:51 GOOD PLAN.
07:35:51 IT IS AT THE END OF A DEAD-END.
07:35:53 THERE'S ONLY FIVE HOUSES ON THIS STREET.
07:35:57 THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE DOESN'T ACTUALLY FACE THE STREET.
07:35:59 IT FACES SOMEBODY ELSE'S BACKYARD.
07:36:02 AND I DID SEE -- AND AGAIN THE ARC STAFF, I DID SEE A
07:36:08 MOCKUP PLAN THAT SOMEBODY HAD.
07:36:10 BUT IT INCLUDED TAKING OUT TWO OF THE TREES.
07:36:13 WHICH I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO DO.
07:36:15 AND I KNOW THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
07:36:18 SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
07:36:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:36:20 ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
07:36:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE.
07:36:25 BUT THE AGENDA SAID THAT I ABSTAINED.
07:36:27 BUT I KEEP LOOKING AT THIS ADDRESS, AND I DON'T RECALL
07:36:31 ABSTAINING.
07:36:33 >> YOU WERE HAVING MICROPHONE PROBLEMS THAT NIGHT AND YOU
07:36:38 COULDN'T HEAR.
07:36:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, IT'S BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HEAR -- IS
07:36:43 THIS THE CASE --
07:36:44 >> YES, YOU DIDN'T HEAR.

07:36:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
07:36:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS THE CASE THAT YOU HAD TO GO
07:36:50 BACK TO THE FILE AND YOU FELT YOU DIDN'T HEAR ENOUGH
07:36:54 TESTIMONY TO BE ABLE TO.
07:36:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:36:57 THANK YOU, MR. BECKWITH, FOR REFRESHING MY MEMORY ON
07:37:00 THAT.
07:37:01 SO MR. SHELBY, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
07:37:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
07:37:09 REVIEW THE RECORD AND BASE YOUR DECISION UPON COMPETENT,
07:37:11 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BASED ON THE RECORD TONIGHT?
07:37:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:37:15 I REVIEWED THE FILE, AND THE DOCUMENTS THAT I HAVE SEEN.
07:37:22 SO YES, I AM COMFORTABLE VOTING TONIGHT.
07:37:29 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION.
07:37:31 I WAS SITTING HERE SCRATCHING MY HEAD SAYING, I DON'T
07:37:34 REMEMBER THIS.
07:37:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY
07:37:38 COUNCIL MEMBERS?
07:37:40 HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:37:44 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:37:47 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
07:37:49 ANY OBJECTION?
07:37:50 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, AND NO OBJECTION, THE
07:37:54 PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

07:37:56 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU WANTS TO READ THIS?
07:37:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-50.
07:38:04 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
07:38:06 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
07:38:08 VICINITY OF 2820 NORTH CENTRAL COURT IN THE CITY OF
07:38:12 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
07:38:14 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
07:38:20 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
07:38:24 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:38:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
07:38:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
07:38:33 AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S REZ 20-50.
07:38:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: REZ 20-50.
07:38:39 YES, SIR.
07:38:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:38:41 WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:38:43 ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:38:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:38:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:38:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:38:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:38:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:38:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:39:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:39:02 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

07:39:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:39:09 ITEM NUMBER 17, I SEE DINGFELDER ABSTAINING.
07:39:15 IS THIS WHERE YOU ARE REALLY ABSTAINING OR WAS IT A
07:39:19 MICROPHONE ISSUE?
07:39:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME DOUBLE CHECK, COUNCIL.
07:39:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THIS THE REAL ESTATE GTAR
07:39:48 BUILDING?
07:39:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT IS, AND I THINK YOU DID
07:39:51 ABSTAIN BECAUSE OF YOUR GTAR MEMBERSHIP AT ONE TIME.
07:39:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
07:39:56 SO I WILL HOLD TO THAT.
07:39:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:40:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A MEMBER OF GTAR AND FOR THAT REASON
07:40:07 I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC
07:40:09 PERCEPTION IN VOTING ON THIS MATTER.
07:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:40:14 MR. MECHANIK, IF YOU WILL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, WE ARE
07:40:16 GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
07:40:18 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE
07:40:22 TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:40:25 >> YES, I DO.
07:40:27 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
07:40:29 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:40:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:40:34 COORDINATION.

07:40:35 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE PLAN AND
07:40:37 THEY ARE AVAILABLE AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
07:40:39 THANK YOU.
07:40:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:40:42 MR. MECHANIK?
07:40:45 >>DAVID MECHANIK: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NOTHING FURTHER
07:40:46 TO ADD ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
07:40:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
07:40:55 MR. MECHANIK?
07:40:56 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT IS
07:40:59 GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 17?
07:41:02 ANYBODY REGISTERED OR AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
07:41:05 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED. NO ONE AT THE TAMPA
07:41:08 CONVENTION CENTER.
07:41:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:41:11 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
07:41:14 HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:41:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:41:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
07:41:23 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
07:41:24 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION
07:41:26 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
07:41:27 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
07:41:30 17?
07:41:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-61, AN ORDINANCE FOR

07:41:38 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
07:41:41 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2906 AND 2918 WEST
07:41:44 KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND 109 SOUTH BUNGALOW PARK AVENUE IN
07:41:48 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
07:41:50 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
07:41:52 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND PD
07:41:56 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL CG
07:41:59 USES EXCEPT HOSPITAL, ROOMING HOUSE, MEDICAL MARIJUANA
07:42:04 DISPENSARY AND MICROBREWERY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:42:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:42:10 ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:42:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:42:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:42:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:42:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:42:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:42:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:42:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSTAINING.
07:42:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:42:37 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
07:42:39 THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 18.
07:42:59 PETITIONER FOR ITEM NUMBER 18.
07:43:01 >> I AM HERE.
07:43:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
07:43:04 >> I CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

07:43:34 LET'S SEE.
07:43:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE CAN MAKE AN EXCEPTION.
07:43:42 [ LAUGHTER ]
07:43:44 >> YOU STILL CAN'T SEE ME, HUH?
07:43:50 I SHARE MY WEB CAM.
07:43:52 IT'S SPINNING BUT IT'S NOT APPARENTLY -- I APOLOGIZE FOR
07:43:57 THAT.
07:43:59 I TRUST THAT YOU KNOW MY VOICE.
07:44:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO.
07:44:03 >> AND I SWEAR UNDER OATH THAT I AM MICHAEL HORNER
07:44:06 REPRESENTING APPLICANT ON ITEM 18.
07:44:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, IS THAT SUFFICIENT?
07:44:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CONSTITUTES
07:44:14 MAKING AN EXCEPTION, IN THIS CASE AS OPPOSED TO OTHER
07:44:17 CASES?
07:44:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER AND I RECOGNIZE THE
07:44:20 VOICE.
07:44:20 >>CATE WELLS: THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING IS THE CLERK
07:44:26 HAS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE PERSON BEING SWORN IN.
07:44:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:44:31 ALL RIGHT.
07:44:32 LET'S SKIP OVER TO ITEM 19 AND SEE IF MR. HORNER IS ABLE
07:44:38 TO FIX THE CAMERA SO WE WILL PUT THIS ITEM ON HOLD.
07:44:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I SUGGEST TO LEGAL
07:44:45 COUNSEL --

07:44:48 >>CATE WELLS: WE ALSO CAN'T SEE YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
07:44:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I VERIFY THE VOICE.
07:44:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
07:44:55 THANK YOU.
07:44:57 TOUCHÉ, MS. WELLS.
07:45:00 ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT MR. HORNER HAD NOTHING TO
07:45:03 ADD FOR SECOND READING, STAFF REPORT, STAFF CAN MAKE A
07:45:07 REPORT. IF HE HAS NOTHING TO ADD, WE DON'T NEED TO SEE
07:45:09 HIM.
07:45:10 HE'S NOT TESTIFYING.
07:45:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. HORNER, LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN.
07:45:15 DO YOU WAIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY ANYTHING TONIGHT?
07:45:19 >>MICHAEL HORNER: ALL I WANT TO SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE
07:45:22 STAFF REPORTS AT THE FIRST READING.
07:45:27 I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY.
07:45:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ENOUGH TO GET YOU ON THE AIR.
07:45:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY I AM NOT AGAINST
07:45:37 ALL OF THIS.
07:45:38 BUT I DON'T WANT TO START SOMETHING TODAY THAT IN THE
07:45:43 FUTURE IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO COME BACK IN
07:45:47 DECEMBER.
07:45:52 AND NOW I WANT THE SAME DEAL.
07:45:56 SO JUST OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE LAWYER AND THE SYSTEM, WE
07:46:01 SHOULDN'T DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
07:46:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE WITH MR. MIRANDA.

07:46:05 LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER 19 AND SEE IF MR. HORNER CAN WORK
07:46:08 OUT THE CAMERA ISSUE.
07:46:09 SO WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
07:46:11 ITEM NUMBER 19.
07:46:12 >>THE CLERK: IF MR. RUIZ IS ON THE LINE, IF HE COULD
07:46:26 MUTE HIMSELF AND PUT ON THE CAMERA.
07:46:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU COULD PLEASE TURN ON YOUR
07:46:43 CAMERA.
07:46:44 THERE YOU GO.
07:46:44 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
07:46:49 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:46:51 >> YES, I DO.
07:46:53 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
07:46:55 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:46:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:46:58 GO AHEAD, MARY.
07:47:00 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING FILE
07:47:08 CONTINUED HEARING.
07:47:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:47:10 MR. RUIZ, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR ANY PRESENTATION
07:47:13 AT THIS POINT?
07:47:15 >> NO, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.
07:47:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC
07:47:20 THAT IS REGISTERED OR WISHES TO SPEAK AT THE TAMPA
07:47:23 CONVENTION CENTER?

07:47:24 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
07:47:27 ITEM, NOR IS THERE NO ONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
07:47:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY
07:47:33 COUNCIL?
07:47:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
07:47:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
07:47:39 ANY OBJECTION?
07:47:40 HEARING NONE, WITH UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY
07:47:43 OBJECTION THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
07:47:45 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU
07:47:51 MIND READING NUMBER 19?
07:47:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
07:47:55 I MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
07:47:57 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
07:47:59 US HAVE INTERESTS OF 2910 WEST FRIERSON AVENUE IN THE
07:48:04 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
07:48:07 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
07:48:13 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
07:48:17 SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:48:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:48:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:48:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:48:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:48:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:48:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:48:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:48:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:48:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:48:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:48:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 20.
07:48:48 MR. RUIZ, YOU ARE GOOD TO GO.
07:48:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:48:51 YOU CAN LOG OUT.
07:48:52 >> THANK YOU.
07:48:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
07:48:53 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:49:20 DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND
07:49:24 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:49:25 >> YES.
07:49:25 >> AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN
07:49:27 COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
07:49:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARY?
07:49:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:49:32 COORDINATION.
07:49:32 THIS IS FOR SECOND READING.
07:49:35 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES MADE AT FIRST READING HAVE BEEN
07:49:37 COMPLETED AND THE SITE PLAN IS AT THE CITY CLERK'S
07:49:40 OFFICE.
07:49:41 THANK YOU.
07:49:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP?

07:49:47 I'M SORRY.
07:49:47 >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF REMARKS JUST TO REMIND
07:49:53 COUNCIL THAT THIS SECOND READING IS DIFFERENT FROM THE
07:49:55 OTHER SECOND READINGS ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
07:49:57 THIS SECOND READING IS A FINAL STEP IN IMPLEMENTING THE
07:50:00 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SETTLEMENT
07:50:02 AGREEMENT THAT COUNCIL APPROVED FOLLOWING THE FIRST
07:50:05 READING ON AUGUST 27th OF 2020.
07:50:08 AS YOU RECALL, THE APPROVED SETTLEMENT RESULTED FROM
07:50:10 MEDIATION PROCEEDINGS UNDER FLORIDA SATURDAY UNITED
07:50:15 STATES, THE FLORIDA LAND USE AND ENVIRONMENTAL RESOLUTION
07:50:18 ACT.
07:50:21 AT THE PRIOR HEARING, ONCE COUNCIL ACCEPTS THE SPECIAL
07:50:24 MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION AS SUBMITTED WHICH COUNCIL
07:50:26 DID ON AUGUST 27th, IT MUST THEN PROCEED TO IMPLEMENT
07:50:30 THE SETTLEMENT.
07:50:31 IN THIS CASE THAT MEANS ADOPTING THE REZONING ORDINANCE.
07:50:34 SO TAKING THAT FIRST STEP IN ADOPTING THE REZONING
07:50:40 ORDINANCE BACK ON AUGUST 27th, AT FIRST READING, AND
07:50:43 TONIGHT TAKES THE FINAL STEP BY COMPLETING SECOND READING
07:50:46 AND ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
07:50:48 MRS. SAMANIEGO HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE APPLICANT HAS
07:50:51 REVISED THE SITE PLAN SO IT INCORPORATES THE SIX
07:50:54 CONDITIONS IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, AND I'M AVAILABLE
07:50:57 TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

07:50:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS.
07:51:01 JOHNSON-VELEZ?
07:51:03 OKAY.
07:51:03 >> STEARNS WEAVER MILLER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
07:51:11 I WAS READING OVER THE TRANSCRIPT, AND I WENT BACK OVER
07:51:15 THE CONCERN THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN --
07:51:18 [AUDIO INTERFERENCE] CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
07:51:25 WITH RESPECT -- PARDON?
07:51:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S SOME INTERFERENCE.
07:51:32 GO AHEAD.
07:51:32 >> I WAS READING OVER THE TRANSCRIPT AND I WANTED TO
07:51:37 ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT I FELT LIKE I DID NOT ADEQUATELY
07:51:39 ADDRESS FOR YOU AT THE LAST HEARING, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
07:51:42 AND THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT THE POSSIBILITY THAT A TRAIN
07:51:48 MAY STOP IN FRONT OF THE ACCESS POINT AND BLOCK IN THE
07:51:53 EVENT OF A HURRICANE OR IN THE EVENT OF SOME EVACUATION.
07:51:56 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN VERY BRIEFLY.
07:51:58 THIS WILL BE VERY BRIEF.
07:52:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
07:52:00 >> SURE.
07:52:09 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
07:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
07:52:11 GO AHEAD.
07:52:12 >> GREAT.
07:52:14 WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS

07:52:18 OUR PROPERTY, THE VACANT PROPERTY, THE U.S. ARMY RESERVE
07:52:21 POST.
07:52:22 THE RESERVE FACILITY THAT ACTUALLY DEPLOYED RESOURCES AND
07:52:25 TROOPS FROM THIS AREA IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCIES.
07:52:29 AS YOU CAN SEE, RIGHT HERE, THERE ARE ACTUALLY EMERGENCY
07:52:34 MILITARY VEHICLES THAT ARE HOUSED IN THIS LOCATION THAT
07:52:38 USE ONE ENTRANCE RIGHT HERE TO GO IN AND OUT.
07:52:41 AND THE RAILWAY ACTUALLY RUNS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS
07:52:45 PROPERTY AS WELL.
07:52:46 MY POINT IS SHOWING YOU THIS MAP IS REALLY TO EMPHASIZE
07:52:50 THAT IF THERE WAS A CONCERN OR IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF
07:52:53 HISTORY OF A TRAIN STOPPING ON THAT LINE, I DON'T THINK
07:52:58 THAT THE ARMY RESERVES WOULD CONTINUE TO BE STAY IN THAT
07:53:02 LOCATION.
07:53:02 THEY HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THAT LOCATION SINCE 1994.
07:53:07 THE SECOND POINTS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IN
07:53:10 RELATION TO THIS ISSUE COMES FROM A DEPOSITION OF BRUCE
07:53:16 BELTON WHO IS THE CONDUCTOR, WHO IS ACTUALLY THE PERSON
07:53:20 THAT GETS DOWN OFF OF THE TRAIN, GETS ONTO THE TRACKS AND
07:53:23 CONTROLS WHEN THAT TRAIN GOES AND STOPS.
07:53:25 AND IN THAT DEPOSITION HE SAID THREE THINGS THAT I THINK
07:53:28 ARE REALLY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE.
07:53:31 ONE, HE STATES THAT TRAINS ARE ALWAYS RUNNING, THEY DON'T
07:53:36 STAY IDLE. TWO, HE STATES THAT THE TRAINS ARE ALWAYS
07:53:38 CAPABLE OF BEING MOVED.

07:53:40 AND FINALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, DURING THAT
07:53:43 DEPOSITION, HE WAS ASKED, HOW LONG QUO IT TAKE A TRAIN TO
07:53:46 MOVE IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY?
07:53:48 AND HE SAID, A MINUTE OR TWO, DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE
07:53:52 TRAIN IS GOING AT THE TIME.
07:53:54 AND I FEEL LIKE I DID NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THAT FOR
07:53:57 YOU.
07:53:57 I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THAT QUESTION.
07:53:59 SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT FOR YOU NOW.
07:54:01 OTHERWISE, WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
07:54:04 YOU HAVE.
07:54:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM
07:54:07 COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THIS TIME?
07:54:12 ALL RIGHT, I HEAR NONE.
07:54:13 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
07:54:15 THIS ITEM, OR IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK OR AT THE TAMPA
07:54:18 CONVENTION CENTER?
07:54:20 >>THE CLERK: WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK
07:54:22 ON THIS ITEM, NOR WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA
07:54:25 CONVENTION CENTER.
07:54:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:54:29 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:54:30 IF NOT, MAY I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:54:34 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA
07:54:36 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

07:54:38 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
07:54:40 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITH NO OBJECTION THE
07:54:45 HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
07:54:46 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM
07:54:49 NUMBER 20?
07:54:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-77, ORDINANCE
07:54:56 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
07:54:59 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY MUCH
07:55:02 5105 WEST TYSON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
07:55:06 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
07:55:09 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD
07:55:13 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND
07:55:16 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN
07:55:19 EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:55:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
07:55:23 MIRANDA.
07:55:23 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:55:27 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
07:55:29 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
07:55:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:55:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:55:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
07:55:41 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
07:55:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

07:55:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:55:49 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO, CARLSON AND
07:55:52 CITRO VOTING NO.
07:55:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:55:56 WE NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER 21.
07:55:57 >>THE CLERK: WE DO NOT HAVE THE APPLICANT OR ANY
07:56:04 REPRESENTATIVE SIGNED UP FOR THIS ITEM.
07:56:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH-OH.
07:56:09 WHAT DO WE DO AT THIS POINT, MR. SHELBY?
07:56:13 MS. SAMANIEGO, GO AHEAD.
07:56:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: --
07:56:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE MR --
07:56:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I TURNED IN MY NOTIFICATION BECAUSE I
07:56:31 HAVE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY, 250 FEET.
07:56:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:56:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. SAMANIEGO.
07:56:39 >> DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND
07:56:44 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:56:46 >> YES.
07:56:47 >>THE CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
07:56:50 WRITTEN COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
07:56:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ALL REQUIRED CHANGES FOR THIS HAVE
07:56:55 BEEN COMPLETED AND FILED AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
07:57:00 I ASK THEY BE RECEIVED --
07:57:05 >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:57:06 ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
07:57:10 WE DON'T HAVE THE PETITIONER HERE BUT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED
07:57:12 TO PROCEED.
07:57:13 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
07:57:14 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR THIS ITEM NUMBER 21?
07:57:17 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
07:57:20 NOR DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
07:57:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:57:24 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
07:57:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:57:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:57:30 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:57:33 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO CLOSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
07:57:36 HEARING NONE, THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED BY UNANIMOUS
07:57:39 CONSENT WITHOUT OBJECTION.
07:57:41 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THIS ITEM?
07:57:46 ITEM NUMBER 21.
07:57:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
07:58:00 FILE NUMBER SU-2-19-11, A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING
07:58:09 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
07:58:12 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A DAYCARE
07:58:17 IN AN RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND RO RESIDENTIAL
07:58:23 OFFICE, ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4901
07:58:28 AND 4905 NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND 4902 NORTH ARRAWANA
07:58:38 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE

07:58:41 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF PROVIDING AN
07:58:45 EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:58:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:58:52 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:58:54 LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:58:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:58:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:59:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:59:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:59:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:59:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:59:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (NO RESPONSE)
07:59:15 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA ABSTAINING.
07:59:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT SETTLES NUMBER 21.
07:59:20 BACK TO MR. HORNER AT NUMBER 18.
07:59:25 IS HE ABLE TO GET HIS CAMERA WORKING?
07:59:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, DIDN'T WE WAIVE THE
07:59:40 APPEARANCE A MINUTE AGO?
07:59:42 I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T WAIVE MR. HORNER'S.
07:59:45 HE SAID HE HAD NOTHING TO SAY BUT A FEW COMPLIMENTS TO
07:59:49 STAFF AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO ANYTHING.
07:59:51 I SUGGEST WE WAIVE APPEARANCE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH
07:59:54 SECOND READING.
07:59:54 >> AGREED.
07:59:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

07:59:57 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
08:00:00 MS. SAMANIEGO?
08:00:01 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
08:00:06 >> DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION?
08:00:12 OR STATEMENT?
08:00:14 I THINK I -- IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS A MOTION AND
08:00:19 SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS A SECOND, MR. CHAIR.
08:00:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE WAS NO MOTION.
08:00:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS NOT BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
08:00:29 IS MR. HORNER ONLINE?
08:00:31 >>MICHAEL HORNER: I AM HERE.
08:00:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA WORKING?
08:00:38 THERE HE IS.
08:00:38 ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOOD TO GO.
08:00:41 LET'S DO THIS.
08:00:41 LET'S SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.
08:00:42 [ LAUGHTER ]
08:00:55 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE
08:00:58 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:01:01 >> I DO.
08:01:02 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
08:01:04 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
08:01:05 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO
08:01:10 THE SITE PLAN.
08:01:11 AND THEY ARE AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

08:01:13 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:01:14 >>MICHAEL HORNER: I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD,
08:01:19 MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:01:20 THANK YOU.
08:01:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:01:24 DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
08:01:26 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 18?
08:01:28 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
08:01:32 ITEM.
08:01:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA
08:01:34 CONVENTION CENTER?
08:01:35 >> NO, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION
08:01:39 CENTER AT THIS TIME.
08:01:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE
08:01:41 PUBLIC HEARING?
08:01:42 >> SO MOVED.
08:01:43 >> SECOND.
08:01:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
08:01:45 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:01:46 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
08:01:48 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT ANY
08:01:51 OBJECTION, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
08:01:54 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM
08:01:57 NUMBER 18?
08:01:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE SU-2-20-07,

08:02:05 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
08:02:08 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
08:02:10 SU-2 APPROVING COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING IN AN RS-50
08:02:15 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL
08:02:17 VICINITY OF 906 EAST SENECA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
08:02:21 FLORIDA AND AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
08:02:25 HEREBY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08:02:26 >> SECOND.
08:02:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY
08:02:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
08:02:32 MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE?
08:02:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:02:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
08:02:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
08:02:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:02:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:02:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
08:02:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:02:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
08:02:50 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:02:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:02:55 NEXT THAT'S ALL OF OUR SECOND READINGS.
08:02:58 I AM GOING TO LEAVE ITEM NUMBER 23 LAST, AND MR.
08:03:03 SULLIVAN, I BELIEVE, FOR ITEM NUMBER 10.
08:03:07 ITEM NUMBER 10.

08:03:08 >>RYAN MANASSE: OH, WE HAVE TO BE SWORN.
08:03:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, YOU DO.
08:03:22 >>THE CLERK: IS MR. SULLIVAN PRESENT?
08:03:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN UNDER
08:03:26 CYNTHIA WILLIAMS.
08:03:27 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
08:03:39 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:03:41 >> I DO.
08:03:42 >> YES.
08:03:42 >> THANK YOU.
08:03:43 AND WE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM THIS ITEM.
08:03:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:03:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. SULLIVAN --
08:03:58 >>> MR. SULLIVAN, YOUR CAMERA FROZE.
08:04:09 IT'S MOVING VERY CHOPPY THERE AS WELL.
08:04:13 >> AM I ON NOW?
08:04:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN HEAR YOU FINE BUT IT'S THE
08:04:22 CAMERA THAT'S VERY CHOPPY.
08:04:27 YOU ARE MOVING BUT SLOWLY.
08:04:28 >> OKAY.
08:04:34 I'M NOT MOVING.
08:04:35 I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING.
08:04:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:04:39 YOU ARE A LITTLE SMOOTHER HERE.
08:04:41 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN DEVELOPMENT

08:04:43 COORDINATION.
08:04:43 ITEM NUMBER 10 IS FILE REZ 20-52 BEING PRESENTED FOR YOU
08:04:48 FOR THE ADDRESS AT 1904 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE REQUESTING TO
08:04:52 GO FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLACE OF
08:04:56 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
08:04:57 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT
08:04:59 AND PLEASE RETURN TO ME SO I CAN FINISH MY REPORT.
08:05:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:05:05 GO AHEAD.
08:05:05 >> CAN YOU SHOW MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
08:05:29 CAN YOU SHOW MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
08:05:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IT.
08:05:42 OKAY.
08:05:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:05:44 >> COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
08:05:50 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. THE NEXT CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL
08:05:53 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
08:05:56 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS TWO BLOCKS TO THE EAST OF THE
08:05:59 SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF EAST OSBORNE AVENUE AND 22ND
08:06:03 STREET.
08:06:03 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS -- PARK AND IS
08:06:10 WITHIN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT
08:06:13 SITE.
08:06:14 BUT IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
08:06:19 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THIS IS THE

08:06:21 SITE OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE COLOR.
08:06:23 THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST OSBORNE AVENUE AND NORTH
08:06:26 19TH STREET.
08:06:27 YOU WILL SEE THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S
08:06:29 PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER.
08:06:35 FUTURE LAND USE MAP, SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE
08:06:40 COLOR.
08:06:41 IT'S WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
08:06:45 YOU WILL SEE IT SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL ON ALL SIDES.
08:06:48 AND THEN ONE BLOCK TO THE EAST, YOU SEE SOME RESIDENTIAL
08:06:52 20 ALONG EAST OSBORNE AVENUE.
08:06:58 DOING AN ASSESSMENT OF THE AREA, THE SITE LOCATED ON THE
08:07:02 SECTOR ROADWAY.
08:07:03 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED
08:07:05 RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS
08:07:08 SITE AND WOULD BE WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING
08:07:11 AREA.
08:07:11 PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A 5100 SQUARE FOOT
08:07:15 CHURCH THAT GIVES ACCESS FROM OSBORNE AVENUE, SOUTH
08:07:20 OSBORNE AVENUE, SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED ON BOTH EAST
08:07:22 OSBORNE AND NORTH 19th STREET.
08:07:25 WHILE THE PROPOSED SIDEWALKS WERE FOR SAFETY AND
08:07:28 ACCESSIBILITY, PUBLIC SIDEWALK, PER LAND USE POLICY
08:07:36 15-2.6, DOES NOT PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM EITHER OF
08:07:41 THE PROPOSED SIDEWALKS FOR THE BUILDING ENTRANCE WHICH IS

08:07:44 INCONSISTENT WITH POLICIES.
08:07:45 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF STRONGLY ENCOURAGES THE
08:07:48 APPLICANT TO ADJUST POLICY BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ
08:07:52 BEING, THE PROPOSED SIDEWALKS TO THE BUILDING'S ENTRANCE
08:07:56 AND INCLUDE BETTER SIDEWALK FENESTRATION WITHIN THE SITE.
08:07:59 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
08:08:01 STAFF FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
08:08:03 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:08:05 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:08:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:08:08 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
08:08:12 NO?
08:08:13 MR. MANASSE.
08:08:14 >>RYAN MANASSE: CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN AND LET
08:08:17 ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THE REZ 20-352?
08:08:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.
08:08:28 GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:08:30 >> AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS FILE REZ 20-52 FOR THE
08:08:34 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1904 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE.
08:08:37 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM
08:08:40 SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR
08:08:44 PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
08:08:45 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH
08:08:47 19th STREET AND EAST OSBORNE AVENUE INTERSECTION.
08:08:51 THE LOT CONTAINS 34,460 SQUARE FEET, 4.79 ACRES.

08:08:58 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING
08:09:00 AND CONSTRUCT A 5100-FOOT ONE STORY STRUCTURE.
08:09:04 THE PROPOSED USE IS A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, AND
08:09:07 THEY ARE PROPOSING 150 SEATS.
08:09:11 THE SETBACKS TO THE NORTH ARE 21 FEET, SOUTH 23 FEET,
08:09:15 EAST 40 FEET AND WEST 40 FEET.
08:09:17 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 28 FEET.
08:09:21 A TOTAL OF 45 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 45 ARE
08:09:23 BEING PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
08:09:26 PER THE SITE PLAN.
08:09:27 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
08:09:30 OR IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT, THE NORTH, EAST, AND
08:09:33 WEST AND SOME COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE
08:09:36 SOUTH IN RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
08:09:39 THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT
08:09:41 AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS
08:09:44 REQUIRED.
08:09:46 ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU IS THE WAIVERS THAT ARE
08:09:48 REQUESTED FOR THIS PETITION.
08:09:50 AND THEN THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.
08:09:53 WE'LL SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY ON EAST OSBORNE
08:09:56 AVENUE.
08:09:56 AND THEN 9TH STREET RIGHT THERE, HATCHED IN GREEN.
08:10:03 OUR AERIAL MAP.
08:10:04 YOU CAN SEE THE 1,000-FOOT BUFFER, NOT SHOWING ANY LOCAL

08:10:07 OR NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET AS
08:10:11 WELL AS IT GIVES YOU MORE OF AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE
08:10:13 PROPOSED SITE.
08:10:16 THE SITE PLAN AS EXPLAINED IS 5100 SQUARE FOOT NEW
08:10:23 BUILDING.
08:10:23 THERE IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE AROUND WHERE MY CURSOR IS
08:10:26 REQUESTED TO BE DEMOLISHED FOR THIS NEW BUILD.
08:10:28 AS YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE ACCESS RIGHT HERE OFF OF OSBORNE
08:10:31 AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THE EAST ON OSBORNE WHERE IT GOES
08:10:35 INTO A ONE-WAY DRIVE AND ONE WAY OUT.
08:10:39 THE PICTURE BEFORE YOU SHOW THE CURRENT STRUCTURE THAT'S
08:10:42 ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S MORE TOWARDS THE WEST CORNER
08:10:45 OF THE PROPERTY.
08:10:46 AND THEN THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT IS GOING TOWARDS THE
08:10:48 EAST.
08:10:49 YOU SEE THE LARGE VACANT LOT.
08:10:51 THERE ARE SOME LARGE TREES ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
08:10:54 THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SUBJECT SITE ON THE LEFT, AND THEN
08:10:57 THE RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH.
08:11:01 AND THEN I WAS TRYING TO GET YOU ALIGN TO THE NORTH
08:11:04 PROPERTY LINE SHOWING YOU WHAT IS EXISTING THERE, AND
08:11:07 THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
08:11:09 STRUCTURES.
08:11:10 THIS IS LOOKING SITE, BOTH TO THE LEFT ARE SINGLE-FAMILY
08:11:14 DWELLING UNITS, AND TO THE RIGHT IS I BELIEVE A BAR, AND

08:11:18 IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IN USE BUT THAT IS THAT COMMERCIAL USE
08:11:24 THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT TO THE SOUTH.
08:11:26 THEN THIS IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET TO THE WEST ACROSS
08:11:28 19th.
08:11:29 MORE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, 50 ZONING DISTRICT,
08:11:34 SINGLE-FAMILY, AND SINGLE LOT AND THEN GOING BACK INTO
08:11:37 HOMES.
08:11:38 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
08:11:42 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
08:11:44 SHOULD IT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
08:11:46 APPLICATION AND THE WAIVERS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE
08:11:48 STAFF REPORT, PER THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN ARE
08:11:53 REQUIRED AS STATED ON THE REVISION OF THE STAFF REPORT.
08:11:57 PLANNING STAFF AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL
08:11:58 RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU MAY HAVE
08:12:01 THEM.
08:12:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
08:12:05 GENTLEMAN?
08:12:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, DOES HE HAVE A PHOTO OF
08:12:08 THE ACTUAL SITE?
08:12:10 I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY HARD COPY.
08:12:15 I CAN'T PULL IT UP.
08:12:16 >> THIS WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CORNER OF 19th AND
08:12:25 OSBORNE FACING EAST GOING THIS WAY.
08:12:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S AT.

08:12:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER ONES SHOWING
08:12:35 THE EAST PART OF THE PROPERTY.
08:12:36 THIS IS THE NORTH, ROUGHLY THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
08:12:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
08:12:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
08:12:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, WOULD YOU PUT UP THE SITE PLAN,
08:12:53 PROPOSED SITE PLAN AGAIN?
08:12:56 AND DANNY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
08:13:00 IF YOU CAN FAN OUT A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE OVER --
08:13:07 YES, AND PULL IT DOWN.
08:13:08 THERE YOU GO.
08:13:09 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
08:13:12 DANNY, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME ISSUES, DEFICIENCY IN
08:13:18 SIDEWALKS BUT I AM NOT REALLY SEEING IT.
08:13:20 IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE WAY DOWN OSBORNE AND THEN I THINK
08:13:26 THEY ARE PUTTING THE SIDEWALK FROM 19th.
08:13:30 SO WHAT WAS YOUR POINT HERE?
08:13:32 >>DANNY COLLINS: SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO
08:13:37 SIDEWALKS, ONE ALONG NORTH 19th STREET AND ONE ALONG
08:13:40 EAST OSBORNE.
08:13:41 AND THERE'S ALSO A SIDEWALK WITHIN THE SITE.
08:13:45 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, AND
08:13:49 ONE OF THE POLICIES IS 2.6 ENCOURAGES SIDEWALKS, A
08:13:57 PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY THAT CONNECTS TO THE BUILDING ENTRANCE
08:13:59 TO THE SIDEWALK, THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.

08:14:07 UPON REVIEW OF THE SITE PLAN, I DON'T SEE A CONNECTION TO
08:14:10 EITHER OF THE PROPOSED SIDEWALKS TO THE BUILDING
08:14:13 ENTRANCE.
08:14:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SEE.
08:14:16 SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT IF SOMEBODY CAME FROM THAT PARKING
08:14:19 LOT IN THE BACK, 25 PARKING SPACES, AND THEN THEY WALK
08:14:25 ALONG THE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK, THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING
08:14:29 THEY HAVE A LITTLE SIDEWALK AT THE PORTE-COCHERE?
08:14:37 >>DANNY COLLINS: RIGHT.
08:14:38 EVEN IF YOU ARE WALKING TO THE PROPOSED CHURCH FROM EAST
08:14:41 19th STREET, YOU HAVE TO CUT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT
08:14:49 WHICH WOULD CAUSE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS.
08:14:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
08:14:53 ALL RIGHT.
08:14:53 AND MR. SULLIVAN, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT IN YOUR
08:14:56 PRESENTATION.
08:14:57 THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS.
08:14:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: CAN I FURTHER CLARIFY THAT, JUST SO WE
08:15:03 ARE ALL CLEAR?
08:15:04 ON THE SCREEN I AM TRYING TO SHOW WITH MY CURSOR -- AND I
08:15:07 AM NOT TRYING TO OVERSTEP WITH WHAT DANNY IS SAYING BUT
08:15:10 PERHAPS WHAT HE'S ASKING, IF THERE WAS A CONNECTION FROM
08:15:15 DOWN HERE AND DANNY CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, THERE
08:15:18 MAY BE A CONNECTION FROM THE SIDEWALK ALONG OSBORNE EVEN,
08:15:22 AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE TWO

08:15:25 PARKING LOTS.
08:15:26 IS THAT CORRECT, DANNY?
08:15:27 >>DANNY COLLINS: THAT'S CORRECT.
08:15:29 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY
08:15:32 IN CASE MR. SULLIVAN WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT.
08:15:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:15:37 ALL RIGHT.
08:15:37 MR. SULLIVAN, SIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND
08:15:40 PRESENT.
08:15:41 >> PERRY SULLIVAN: YES, SIR.
08:15:52 WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS IN ANY CASE A LEGAL
08:15:54 CONFORMING LOT.
08:15:56 OPERATING AS A RESIDENCE PROPERTY.
08:16:01 AND DO --
08:16:07 >> DID YOU HEAR?
08:16:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:16:09 >> AND DOING A LITTLE SIDEWALK, THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER
08:16:19 ISSUES.
08:16:20 EVERYTHING ELSE COMPLIES.
08:16:24 AND [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] AND ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS THEY
08:16:31 HAVE WILL BE ADDRESSED WITH NO ISSUES IN BEING ABLE TO
08:16:34 ADDRESS IT.
08:16:36 THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS AT THE MEETING.
08:16:39 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME?
08:16:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM

08:16:42 THE PETITIONER FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
08:16:49 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR, BEFORE I GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
08:16:55 MR. SULLIVAN?
08:16:56 >> NO, SIR.
08:16:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:17:02 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK,
08:17:04 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER OR REGISTERED, NOW WOULD
08:17:06 BE THE TIME.
08:17:07 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
08:17:10 ITEM.
08:17:10 AND THERE IS NO ONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
08:17:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:17:16 ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
08:17:19 ANYTHING AT ALL BEFORE WE REQUEST -- I REQUEST A MOTION
08:17:22 TO CLOSE?
08:17:23 >> MOVE TO CLOSE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:17:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
08:17:30 MIRANDA.
08:17:30 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
08:17:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND, CITRO.
08:17:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
08:17:35 ANY OBJECTION?
08:17:36 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE HAVE NOW CLOSED
08:17:40 THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
08:17:41 COUNCIL, MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER

08:17:47 10?
08:17:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:17:50 I'LL TAKE IT.
08:17:53 REZ 20-352.
08:17:56 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
08:17:58 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
08:18:01 1904 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
08:18:04 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
08:18:07 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
08:18:10 TO PD PLANNED DEPARTMENT PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY
08:18:14 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08:18:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
08:18:17 >> SECOND.
08:18:19 ALONG WITH SITE MODIFICATIONS AND THE SIDEWALK.
08:18:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:18:27 MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE?
08:18:29 >>LUIS VIERA: (NO RESPONSE)
08:18:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
08:18:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
08:18:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:18:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:18:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
08:18:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:18:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
08:18:57 VOTE.

08:18:58 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22ND
08:19:00 AT 5:01 P.M.
08:19:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:19:05 WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 12.
08:19:09 AND THEN WE HAVE REZONING AND THEN THE LAST ITEM ON THE
08:19:15 AGENDA.
08:19:15 ITEM NUMBER 12.
08:19:33 ITEM NUMBER 12.
08:19:34 WE HAVE PETITIONER ANDREW MAYTS.
08:19:39 I SEE YOUR SCREEN.
08:19:40 THERE YOU GO, SIR.
08:19:41 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SWORN IN, ANYBODY THAT'S
08:19:44 GOING TO BE TAKING PART IN THIS.
08:19:45 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
08:19:50 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE
08:19:54 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:19:56 >> I DO.
08:19:57 >> AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS A REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR
08:20:00 THIS ITEM.
08:20:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A REMINDER FOR
08:20:04 THE RECORD THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES IS NOT PARTICIPATING IN
08:20:07 THIS HEARING BECAUSE HE ABSTAINED FROM THIS ITEM.
08:20:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:20:16 >>THE CLERK: WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON
08:20:18 THIS ITEM.

08:20:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:20:22 MR. MANASSE.
08:20:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
08:20:27 COORDINATION, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS FILE REZ 20-47 FOR THE
08:20:31 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1237 EAST TWIGGS STREET REQUESTING TO
08:20:38 GO WHEREVER CD 1 TO CD 2 FOR MULTI-FAMILIAR RETAIL SALES
08:20:46 WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY
08:20:48 FROM 3.35 TO 3.94 F.A.R.
08:20:53 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT
08:20:55 AND IF YOU PLEASE RETURN TO ME FOR MINE.
08:20:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:20:59 MR. COLLINS, GO AHEAD.
08:21:00 >>DANNY COLLINS: CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
08:21:18 THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
08:21:21 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
08:21:22 THE NEXT CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
08:21:24 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE CHANNEL URBAN VILLAGE.
08:21:29 SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED REQUEST THE DOWNTOWN BONUS AREA,
08:21:33 PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS -- AREA, THE CLOSEST
08:21:37 PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITIES, HANSON STREET PARK DIRECTLY
08:21:42 WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:21:43 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE,
08:21:47 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:21:49 WITHIN A LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE.
08:21:53 THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWING THE

08:21:57 PROPERTY.
08:21:58 YOU WILL SEE THE PRESENT SITE IN THIS PURPLE COLOR ON THE
08:22:03 SOUTHEAST CORNER OF EAST TWIGGS STREET AND CHANNELSIDE
08:22:06 DRIVE.
08:22:11 CHANNELSIDE IS HERE.
08:22:12 AND THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT
08:22:16 SITE.
08:22:19 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP --
08:22:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
08:22:24 WHERE IS MR. MAYTS?
08:22:26 >> I'M RIGHT HERE.
08:22:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE IS RIGHT HERE?
08:22:31 >> MR. SHELBY, MY CAMERA MOVES TO THE VOICE IN THE ROOM.
08:22:36 SO WHENEVER SOMEONE IS PRESENTING, MY CAMERA IS MOVING TO
08:22:39 THE TV.
08:22:41 WHEN I AM TALKING THE CAMERA WILL BE ON AGAIN.
08:22:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN TESTIFYING THE CAMERA IS
08:22:49 LOOKING AT HIM, SO --
08:22:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
08:22:53 WELL, I GUESS THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
08:22:57 THAT WILL BE FINE, SIR.
08:22:59 THANK YOU.
08:22:59 >> DO I GO AHEAD?
08:23:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WILL BE FINE
08:23:08 AS LONG AS WHEN HE SPEAKS WE CAN SEE HIM.

08:23:10 >> THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
08:23:20 AGAIN THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWN HERE, OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE
08:23:23 COLOR.
08:23:24 WITHIN THE RMU 100 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
08:23:28 JUST NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE GRAYISH COLOR, AND
08:23:35 THE COLOR HERE.
08:23:40 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES FOR USES IN DENSITIES.
08:23:43 PEOPLE WITH RMU 100 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND
08:23:47 POLICY DIRECTION IN AN URBAN VILLAGE AND CORRIDORS, THE
08:23:52 SUBJECT SITE LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHICH ALLOWS
08:23:55 CONSIDERATION FOR UP TO 100% STANDARD MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA
08:23:59 RATIO.
08:24:04 PROVIDES CONSIDERATION FOR UP TO ALMOST 622,000 SQUARE
08:24:12 FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
08:24:14 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING F.A.R. 3.94 IN KEEPING WITH
08:24:18 THE PLAN REQUIREMENTS WHICH REQUIRE MIXTURE OF
08:24:21 RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OFFICE USES.
08:24:24 OVERALL THE PROPOSED REZONING IS COMPARABLE AND
08:24:28 COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE UNDERLYING LAND
08:24:32 USE DESIGNATION.
08:24:34 THE PLANNING STAFF FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA
08:24:38 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:24:40 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
08:24:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANNING
08:24:42 COMMISSION?

08:24:43 HEARING NONE, MR. MANASSE.
08:24:46 RYAN RUIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
08:24:48 AGAIN ITEM 12 IS FILE REZ 20-47.
08:24:51 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 1237
08:24:55 EAST TWIGGS STREET FROM GENERAL DISTRICT 1 TO CHANNEL
08:24:58 DISTRICT 2 CD 2.
08:25:00 THE BONUS AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL
08:25:03 AND RETAIL SALES USES.
08:25:04 THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF CHANNELSIDE
08:25:06 DRIVE BETWEEN EAST TWIGGS STREET TO THE NORTH AND EAST
08:25:10 MADISON STREET TO THE SOUTH.
08:25:11 THE SITE IS AN EXISTING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE AND ALL THE
08:25:14 STRUCTURES WILL BE DEMOLISHED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT
08:25:16 OF AN 8-STORY RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL SALES
08:25:20 MIXED USE BUILDING.
08:25:21 THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE URBAN SCALE
08:25:25 PROJECT AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INTEGRATE BOTH
08:25:28 COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES ON THIS SITE WITH
08:25:30 DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON THE EAST END OF THE SITE.
08:25:33 THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES TWO VEHICULAR ACCESS POINTS, ONE
08:25:37 BEING ON EAST TWIGGS STREET FOR SOLID WASTE PICKUP AND
08:25:40 LOADING BERTH AND ONE ON EAST MADISON STREET FOR
08:25:43 RESIDENTIAL RETAIL USES.
08:25:45 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT PROPOSED IS 897 FEET AND
08:25:47 THERE ARE 365 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED, AND 391 ARE BEING

08:25:52 PROVIDED.
08:25:53 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE 0 FEET TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND
08:25:56 WEST AND 107 FEET ON THE EAST.
08:25:58 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IN COMPLIANCE
08:26:02 WITH THE CHANNEL DISTRICT STANDARD ARE REQUIRED.
08:26:04 THE PURPOSE AND INTENT.
08:26:06 CHANNEL DISTRICT CD OR DISTRICT IS TO PROVIDE FOR A
08:26:09 GROWING MIXED USE AREA WHICH LIES BETWEEN THE COMPLIMENTS
08:26:12 OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND YBOR CITY HISTORIC
08:26:15 DISTRICT.
08:26:16 THE CD PROVIDES FOR PROTECTION OF EXISTING USES IN A
08:26:19 VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES
08:26:22 CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:26:25 THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RMU 100
08:26:29 WHICH A LOIS FOR PHASE INTENSITY F.A.R. WITH A DENSITY OF
08:26:34 TO 7.0 F.A.R. WITH CD PERIPHERY WHEN PERFORMANCE
08:26:39 STANDARDS ARE MET.
08:26:40 THE ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS PRESENTED
08:26:42 CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS APPLICATION FOR EXECUTION OF THE
08:26:44 BONUS AGREEMENT.
08:26:46 BASED ON THE PROPOSED F.A.R. THE AMOUNT DUE TO ACHIEVE
08:26:48 THIS BONUS IS $696,883.17.
08:26:53 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL
08:26:55 AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH, AND IN THE WEST, AND
08:26:59 THE CD 2 AND CD 3 ZONING DISTRICTS.

08:27:03 TO THE EAST IN THE CD 1 DISTRICT AND COMMERCIAL USES TO
08:27:06 THE NORTH IN THE CD 3 ZONING DISTRICT.
08:27:10 ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW ARE THE WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING
08:27:13 PROPOSED FOR THIS PETITION.
08:27:15 THERE ARE FIVE WAIVERS BEING PROPOSED.
08:27:18 THE ZONING MAP ON SCREEN SHOWS YOU THE SUBJECT SITE
08:27:22 HATCHED IN GREEN.
08:27:23 >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS CATE.
08:27:27 WE DON'T SEE YOUR SCREEN.
08:27:28 >> OH, I'M SORRY.
08:27:29 WE DIDN'T SHARE A SCREEN?
08:27:34 >> GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:27:35 >> OKAY.
08:27:37 SO THE PROPOSED WAIVERS THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW,
08:27:39 THERE'S FIVE WAIVERS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE YOU IN THIS
08:27:42 PETITION.
08:27:43 THEY ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS WELL.
08:27:46 THE MAP ON SCREEN SHOWING YOU THE GREEN HATCHED IS THE
08:27:49 SUBJECT SITE.
08:27:51 YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT SURROUND IT.
08:27:54 THEN THE R THE AERIAL THAT DANNY WAS SHOWING YOU SHOWS
08:27:57 THE RADIUS TO SHOW IF YOU THERE ARE ANY HISTORIC
08:28:00 STRUCTURES.
08:28:02 THERE'S A TRANSPORTATION COMPANY WAREHOUSE WITHIN THE
08:28:04 LANDMARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

08:28:10 AND THEN THIS IS THE FIRST STAGE OF THE SITE PLAN SHOWING
08:28:14 YOU THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES AND ACCOMMODATING THE INGRESS
08:28:18 AND EGRESS OF THE SOLID WASTE THAT I DESCRIBED IN THE
08:28:20 STAFF REPORT, IN THE LOADING BERTHS.
08:28:23 AND THEN ON THE SOUTH WOULD BE THE ACCESS TO THE GARAGE
08:28:25 FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL USES.
08:28:31 I TRIED TO PUT A LIST OF NAMES OF THE ELEVATIONS ON THE
08:28:36 SCREEN FOR YOU.
08:28:36 THEY ARE ALSO IN THE STAFF ELECTRONIC VERSION OF YOUR
08:28:39 SITE PLANS AND THE PAPER COPIES.
08:28:41 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF, THE PICTURES ON-SITE
08:28:44 SHOW THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT, AND THEN TO THE
08:28:46 RIGHT WHERE YOU SEE THE WHITE VEHICLE IS THE PARKING AREA
08:28:49 GOING OVER TO THIS WHITE WAREHOUSE LOOKING BUILDING AND
08:28:53 THAT IS TO THE WEST.
08:28:55 THE SOUTH NEIGHBOR IS OVER HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS.
08:28:58 THAT'S THE GRAND CENTRAL.
08:29:00 AND THEN THESE ARE THE NORTH TAMPA.
08:29:04 ACROSS THE STREET, THERE IS VACANT LAND, AND THAT'S
08:29:07 NORTH, 219 NORTH 12th STREET AND 212TH 22 CHANNELSIDE
08:29:11 DRIVE, AND THIS GOES ON THE CORNER LEFT PICTURE AND MORE
08:29:15 MULTIFAMILY USES TO THE NORTH.
08:29:17 THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT THE WEST TWIGGS, AND THEN EAST ON
08:29:21 TWIGGS.
08:29:22 PICTURE TO THE RIGHT.

08:29:23 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
08:29:26 THE APPLICATION AND DOES FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE
08:29:28 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
08:29:29 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REFER TO THE TRANSPORTATION RELATED
08:29:34 TO THE REDUCTION IN SIZE AND THE NUMBER OF LOADING SPACES
08:29:36 PROVIDED.
08:29:37 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
08:29:40 APPLICATION AND THE WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH IT IDENTIFIED
08:29:42 IN THE STAFF REPORT, FOR THE MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED
08:29:45 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THIS PETITION.
08:29:48 THEY ARE OUTLINED ON THE REVISION SHEET OF YOUR STAFF
08:29:51 REPORT.
08:29:51 AND PLANNING, TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF
08:29:54 ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
08:29:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:29:58 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
08:30:01 IF THERE ARE NONE, I WILL GO TO MR. MAYTS.
08:30:07 >> THANK YOU.
08:30:10 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
08:30:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU BEGIN, COUNCIL MEMBER
08:30:19 DINGFELDER, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER FOR JUST A MINUTE?
08:30:23 I AM GOING TO STEP OUT A SECOND.
08:30:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
08:30:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL.
08:30:32 THIS IS THE OLD JH WILLIAMS OIL COMPANY SITE, PROPOSED TO

08:30:41 DEVELOP A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL SALES MIXED
08:30:46 USE PROJECT.
08:30:48 YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH DCI, THEIR DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN
08:30:52 DEVELOPING FOR FIFTY YEARS IN CONJUNCTION WITH MERCURY
08:30:55 ADVISORS.
08:30:56 THEY DEVELOPED CHANNEL CLUB WHERE THE PUBLIX IS LOCATED
08:30:59 DOWNTOWN.
08:31:01 SO THIS IS THE CURRENT EXISTING USE.
08:31:13 THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN.
08:31:31 TO SEE WHAT THE -- WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE A WORKING
08:31:39 ENVIRONMENTS.
08:31:40 THE WAIVERS, A WAIVER FOR OUR DESIGN TO BE CONSISTENT
08:31:45 WITH THE INTENT FOR SITE PLAN DISTRICT WHICH RECOGNIZES
08:31:49 UNIQUE CONDITIONS ALLOWING DESIGN FLEXIBILITY.
08:31:54 THE FIRST WAIVER IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OFF-STREET
08:31:58 LOADING SPACES FROM THREE TO WOULD YOU KNOW.
08:32:01 A RELATIVELY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL PROJECT FOR
08:32:06 RETAIL AND ONE LOADING BERTH TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THOSE
08:32:12 USES.
08:32:12 AFTER INITIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHEN DON'T BELIEVE THERE WILL
08:32:15 BE SIGNIFICANT MOVE-INS PER MONTH AFTER THE INITIAL STEAK
08:32:20 STABILIZATION AFTER OPENING IS SET.
08:32:22 SO ONE LOADING SPACE SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE
08:32:28 INTENDED USES.
08:32:29 ADDITIONALLY, THE REDUCTION IN SIZE OF THE OFF-STREET

08:32:34 LOADING SPACE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENDED USE OF A
08:32:43 SEMI TRAILER TRUCK LIKE SIZE TRUCK IS NOT GOING TO REALLY
08:32:48 BE ANTICIPATED THAT MUCH DELIVERY HERE, SINCE MOST OF THE
08:32:54 USES FROM PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, SO THE 45-FOOT
08:33:02 LOADING BAY SHOULD ACCOMMODATE ANY LOADING NEEDS FOR THIS
08:33:06 SITE.
08:33:11 WE WOULD ASK YOUR FAVORABLE APPROVAL AND ANSWER ANY
08:33:14 QUESTIONS.
08:33:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL
08:33:17 MEMBERS AT THIS TIME?
08:33:24 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT
08:33:26 WISHES TO SPEAK, OR IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK?
08:33:29 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
08:33:32 ITEM.
08:33:34 I STAND CORRECTED.
08:33:35 WE DO HAVE A LIVE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
08:33:38 >>> OKAY.
08:33:38 BEFORE WE BEGIN, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I SAW YOUR HAND
08:33:41 GO UP.
08:33:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL WAIT TO HEAR FROM THE SPEAKER.
08:33:45 DID WE HEAR FROM MR. ROSNER? I SEE HIM THERE.
08:33:58 >>ROB ROSNER: CRA MANAGER AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
08:34:02 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS DEVELOPER FOR A BONUS
08:34:06 PROVISION AGREEMENT FOR PROVIDING SOME SPACE ON THE
08:34:12 PROPERTY TO PUT TRANSFORMERS FOR US TO UNDERGROUND SOME

08:34:16 OF THE PROJECTS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR
08:34:17 UNDERGROUNDING THE OVERHEAD DISTRIBUTION LINES, AND
08:34:22 WORKING WITH THEM TO SHARE COSTS, AND RELOCATING SOME OF
08:34:26 THE TRANSMISSION LINES, AND SOME OF THE POLES THAT ARE
08:34:29 NOT MORE SAFE LOCATIONS.
08:34:32 SO PART OF THIS DISCUSSION WILL BE THROUGH THE AGREEMENT,
08:34:35 AND THE NEXT ONE, BUT WE HAVE SHARED THIS WITH THE
08:34:42 CACs.
08:34:43 THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
08:34:44 AND IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE DISTRICT.
08:34:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:34:52 WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
08:34:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ROB, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERGROUND THE
08:34:58 REST OF THE CITY?
08:35:00 >>ROB ROSNER: WORKING ON ONE STREET AT A TIME.
08:35:02 I HAVE ABOUT SIX GOING RIGHT NOW SO --
08:35:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OTHER COMMENTS?
08:35:14 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
08:35:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU
08:35:28 YET.
08:35:28 >> I'M THE DEVELOPER.
08:35:31 AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR 13 YEARS, WE DEVELOPED GRAND
08:35:35 CENTRAL.
08:35:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED TO SEE YOUR FACE ON THE
08:35:42 CAMERA, SIR.

08:35:43 >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO VIEW THE CAMERA.
08:35:46 IF THEY CAN'T SEE YOU, THEN WE CAN JUST WAIVE YOUR
08:35:49 COMMENTS AT THIS POINT.
08:35:50 >> THAT WOULD BE FINE.
08:35:54 I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
08:35:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:35:59 ANY OTHER PUBLIC DOCUMENT?
08:36:04 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR THIS ITEM?
08:36:08 >>THE CLERK: NO.
08:36:09 WE DON'T VERY MUCH ANY ONLINE SPEAKER OR NO ONE AT THE
08:36:13 TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
08:36:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
08:36:19 COUNCIL?
08:36:20 ANY REBUTTAL FROM THE PETITIONER MR. MAYTS?
08:36:22 >> NO, SIR.
08:36:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
08:36:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:36:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
08:36:33 MIRANDA TO CLOSE, I THINK THE SECOND WAS FROM VIERA.
08:36:36 ANY OPPOSITION, OBJECTION?
08:36:39 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, WE WILL
08:36:41 CLOSE.
08:36:41 NOW, IF YOU LOOK HERE, WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE,
08:36:46 AND THEN WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.
08:36:48 DO WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM SEPARATELY, MS. WELLS?

08:36:51 >>CATE WELLS: THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT THAT IS TO
08:36:56 BE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL'S
08:36:59 CONSIDERATION AT SECOND READING.
08:37:00 IT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR MATERIALS THIS EVENING BECAUSE IT
08:37:04 RELATES TO THE PROPOSED REZONING.
08:37:06 BUT THAT WAS A COURTESY.
08:37:09 AT THIS POINT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ASK COUNCIL TO TAKE
08:37:13 ACTION ON THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
08:37:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE READ THE
08:37:16 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 12?
08:37:21 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:37:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE REZ 20-47, MOVE
08:37:30 A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
08:37:33 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
08:37:35 THE 1237 EAST TWIGGS STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
08:37:38 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
08:37:41 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CD 1 CHANNEL DISTRICT TO CD 2
08:37:45 CHANNEL DISTRICT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES,
08:37:48 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08:37:53 AND IN MY MIND, ANYWAY, THE PETITIONER CERTAINLY
08:37:56 ADDRESSED THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS FOR THE LOADING ZONE,
08:38:02 AND SAYING THEY ARE NOT NEEDED BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE
08:38:07 SOME RETAIL, IT'S NOT TO ANY GREAT EXTENT, AND ONE
08:38:12 FOLLOWS THE OTHER, BUT 12 BY 60 LOADING ZONE WILL NOT
08:38:18 BE -- IT WILL BE THE SAME ITEM BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THE

08:38:22 12 BY 45 WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO UNLOAD AND
08:38:26 LOAD, MAYBE IN THE BEGINNING, THEY MAY BE A LITTLE
08:38:32 PRESSED FOR TIME BUT AFTER THE FIRST MOVE INTO THE
08:38:34 BUILDING, WHICH PROVIDES FOR THE BUILDING.
08:38:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:38:42 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:38:43 ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:38:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:38:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: (NO REPLY)
08:38:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
08:38:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:38:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:38:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
08:38:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:39:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES ABSTAINING.
08:39:04 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22ND
08:39:07 AT 5:01 P.M.
08:39:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MR. MIRANDA THAT INCLUDED THE
08:39:13 CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING?
08:39:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:39:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
08:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:39:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST QUESTION TO CLARIFY WITH THE
08:39:26 CLERK.
08:39:26 FOR THE PURPOSES OF THAT RESOLUTION, DOES THAT RESOLUTION

08:39:30 AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK OR DO WE NEED A MOTION?
08:39:34 OKAY.
08:39:34 >>THE CLERK: YES.
08:39:40 IT WILL BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
08:39:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT COUNCIL'S ACTION TONIGHT?
08:39:48 >>THE CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
08:39:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:39:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 13.
08:40:00 ITEM NUMBER 13.
08:40:13 ALL RIGHT, WE SEE THE APPLICANT.
08:40:15 CAMERAS ARE ON.
08:40:16 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
08:40:18 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
08:40:23 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:40:25 >> I DO.
08:40:26 >> AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN
08:40:31 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
08:40:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:40:34 RYAN RUIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
08:40:36 ITEM NUMBER 13 IS FILE REZ 20-46 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
08:40:40 AT HAD 102 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND 4059 WEST CREST
08:40:45 AVENUE.
08:40:46 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS REZONING FROM CI TO PD FOR
08:40:50 COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL REENTRY FACILITY AND ALL CI USES.
08:40:55 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT

08:40:57 AND PLEASE RETURN TO ME AFTER THIS.
08:40:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:41:00 MR. COLLINS, GO AHEAD.
08:41:02 WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN.
08:41:02 >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY COLLINS, PLANNING
08:41:07 COMMISSION STAFF, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
08:41:08 THE NEXT CASE IS IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT AND
08:41:12 MORE SPECIFICALLY HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:41:15 SUBJECT SITE IS MIXED USE AND TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR,
08:41:20 TRANSIT ON WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
08:41:22 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FACILITY IS ROBLES PARK
08:41:26 WHICH IS SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:41:30 THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
08:41:34 AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:41:38 SHOWING THE OUTLINE IN PURPLE COLOR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
08:41:41 WEST BOULEVARD AVENUE.
08:41:42 AND YOU WILL SEE PREDOMINANT USES ALONG WEST HILLSBOROUGH
08:41:51 AVENUE, WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE
08:42:00 SUBJECT SITE IS A CC 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION SHOWN
08:42:05 IN RED COLOR.
08:42:10 MOSTLY CC 35 AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL REPRESENTED BY THIS
08:42:15 GRAY COLOR.
08:42:16 THERE'S INDUSTRIAL OFF OF WEST CREST AVENUE.
08:42:21 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND
08:42:23 FOUND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE POLICIES ON PUBLIC

08:42:29 SAFETY, DOES NOT PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO A
08:42:33 SIDEWALK ON WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, IS INCONSISTENT
08:42:36 WITH 15.06.
08:42:39 IN ADDITION THE SUBJECT SITE DOES NOT PROVIDE SAFE
08:42:41 SIDEWALK INTEGRATION; OFF THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING,
08:42:52 TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING.
08:42:53 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO PROVIDE
08:42:58 TRANSPORTATION SERVICE.
08:42:58 DUE TO THE POSSIBILITY OF [AUDIO DISTORTION]
08:43:05 THE FACILITY SHOULD PROVIDE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE PATH TO
08:43:07 RESIDENT ACCESS TO TRANSIT PARTICULARLY ON WEST
08:43:10 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
08:43:11 IF THERE IS NOT A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO WEST
08:43:14 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, THE BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS
08:43:19 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST TO BE
08:43:21 INCONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:43:24 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
08:43:25 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:43:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
08:43:28 MR. MANASSE.
08:43:29 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU CHAIR.
08:43:31 PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
08:43:32 PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU SEE THE REZ 20-46.
08:43:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DO.
08:43:36 >> FILE REZ 20-46, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO

08:43:40 REZONE THIS PROPERTY 4102 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND
08:43:45 4059 WEST CREST AVENUE FROM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE CI TO
08:43:49 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE RESIDENTIAL REENTRY
08:43:52 FACILITY.
08:43:53 THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ONE BLOCK EAST OF NORTH
08:43:56 LOIS AVENUE BETWEEN WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND WEST
08:43:59 CREST AVENUE.
08:44:00 THE LOT CONTAINS 229,072 SQUARE FEET OR 5.259 ACRES.
08:44:07 THE PROPOSED USE WILL CONSIST OF 44,070 SQUARE FOOT
08:44:13 BUILDING WITH BARKING TO THE SOUTH, NORTH AND EAST OF THE
08:44:15 STRUCTURE.
08:44:16 THE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED ON WEST
08:44:19 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND WEST CREST AVENUE.
08:44:22 THE SETBACKS ARE 10 FEET TO THE NORTH, ZERO FEET TO THE
08:44:25 SOUTH, ZERO FEET TO THE EAST, AND ZERO FEET IN THE WEST.
08:44:29 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 45 FEET.
08:44:32 THE PROJECT PROPOSES A MAXIMUM OF 140 BEDS FOR THE
08:44:36 RESIDENTIAL REENTRY USE.
08:44:38 A TOTAL OF 88 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED, AND 108
08:44:42 PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
08:44:44 THE PROPERTY HAS COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH, EAST AND
08:44:47 WEST IN THE CI ZONING DISTRICT AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES
08:44:50 TO THE SOUTH IN THE IG ZONING DISTRICT.
08:44:52 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
08:44:55 ON YOUR SCREEN YOU WILL SEE THE REZONING MAP, THE SUBJECT

08:44:58 PARCEL IS HATCHED IN GREEN AS YOU CAN SEE IT FRONTS ON
08:45:01 HILLSBOROUGH AND THERE'S ALSO WEST CREST AVENUE, PROPERTY
08:45:06 BOUNDARY, FROM THE TWO PARCELS, 4102 BEING THE LARGER AND
08:45:10 THEN 4059 BEING THE SMALLER SQUARE.
08:45:13 THE AERIAL SHOWS THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED AGAIN.
08:45:18 AS YOU CAN SEE HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE TO YOUR NORTH AND THEN
08:45:21 CREST TO YOUR SOUTH.
08:45:22 THE 1,000-FOOT BUFFER RADIUS SHOWN THIS IN THAT GREEN
08:45:26 DASHED LINE SHOWS THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS
08:45:29 NATIONAL OR LOCAL IN THE AREA.
08:45:30 AND THEN THE SITE PLAN CONSISTS OF THE EXISTING
08:45:33 STRUCTURE, AND THERE'S A PROPOSED -- THE ENTRANCE RIGHT
08:45:37 THERE AND I BELIEVE FROM WHAT DANNY WAS SAYING WAS HAVING
08:45:40 THE ENTRANCE OFF ONE OF THESE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS INTO
08:45:42 THE STRUCTURE, JUST TO VISUALIZE THAT AS THE SITE PLAN ON
08:45:45 THE SCREEN.
08:45:46 BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS ACCESS HERE ON CREST.
08:45:49 AND THEN ALSO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
08:45:53 THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF, THERE ARE SOME PHOTOS ON THE
08:45:56 LEFT AND THE RIGHT.
08:45:58 CURRENTLY THIS EXISTING STRUCTURE.
08:46:00 AND THEN THIS IS EAST ON HILLSBOROUGH.
08:46:02 AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S PREDOMINANTLY ALL COMMERCIAL ON BOTH
08:46:06 SIDE OF THE STREET.
08:46:07 AND THEN WEST ON HILLSBOROUGH.

08:46:09 THE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST IS 4116 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE
08:46:13 AND IT'S A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AS WELL AS 3910 WEST
08:46:18 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
08:46:19 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
08:46:21 APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY
08:46:24 OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
08:46:25 SHOULD IT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
08:46:27 APPLICATION, PER THE -- FURTHER MODIFICATIONS ARE
08:46:31 REQUIRED UNDER THE STAFF REPORT IN THE REVISION SHEET
08:46:33 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:46:35 ONE MORE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT THERE
08:46:37 ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS PD REZONING.
08:46:40 PLANNING STAFF AS WELL AS NATURAL RESOURCES AND
08:46:42 TRANSPORTATION ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
08:46:44 MAY HAVE.
08:46:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
08:46:47 GENTLEMAN?
08:46:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.
08:46:55 I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE
08:46:56 TO RECUSE MYSELF DEPENDING ON -- IF THIS IS THE PROJECT I
08:47:01 THINK IT IS.
08:47:04 I DON'T KNOW, SPEAKING TO THE APPLICANT, IS THIS A
08:47:08 FEDERAL REENTRY FACILITY PROPOSED OR STATE OR LOCAL?
08:47:13 >> JESSICA ICERMAN WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER.
08:47:19 I AM GOING TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO PAUL NORTH WHO IS

08:47:21 THE OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR THE RESIDENTIAL REENTRY
08:47:24 FACILITY.
08:47:25 PAUL, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT?
08:47:27 >> SURE.
08:47:28 THAT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM.
08:47:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN LIGHT OF THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND
08:47:35 MR. SHELBY, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF.
08:47:37 I HAVE A REAL ESTATE CONFLICT AS RELATED TO MY PERSONAL
08:47:45 BUSINESS.
08:47:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO I WILL PREPARE THAT FORM FOR YOU FOR
08:47:55 SUBMISSION AT A FUTURE MEETING.
08:47:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:47:58 APPLICANT.
08:48:01 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
08:48:03 MY NAME IS JESSICA ICERMAN.
08:48:06 I AM AN ATTORNEY WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER AT 401 EAST
08:48:10 JACKSON STREET SUITE 2100 TAMPA, FLORIDA.
08:48:13 YOU HAVE ALREADY GONE INTO THE INTRODUCTIONS OF PAUL
08:48:15 MILLER, THE OPERATIONS MANAGER, AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY
08:48:19 QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS REZONING.
08:48:21 I ALSO HAVE WITH ME ABBYE FEELEY WHO IS THE PLANNER WITH
08:48:25 STEARNS WEAVER MILLER ON THIS PROJECT AND I AM GOING TO
08:48:27 TURN IT OVER TO HER.
08:48:28 >>ABBYE FEELEY: STEARNS WEAVER MILLER, 401 EAST JACKSON
08:48:36 STREET, 2100.

08:48:38 I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE OUR PRESENTATION
08:48:42 THIS EVENING, IF I MAY.
08:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
08:48:48 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
08:48:53 AS RYAN AND DANNY DID A TREMENDOUS JOB EXPLAINING
08:48:57 TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION.
08:49:00 THIS IS GOODWILL PROPERTY AT 4102 WEST HILLSBOROUGH
08:49:05 AVENUE.
08:49:05 OUR REQUEST FOR REZONING TONIGHT IS FROM CI COMMERCIAL
08:49:09 INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMUNITY
08:49:12 RESIDENTIAL REENTRY FACILITY AND ALL COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE
08:49:16 USES.
08:49:18 AS RYAN AND DANNY BOTH SAID, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON
08:49:21 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
08:49:23 WE ARE WEST OF NORTH DALE MABRY AND EAST OF NORTH LOIS
08:49:26 AVENUE.
08:49:27 WE ARE IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT.
08:49:29 AND WE ARE ALSO ARE IN THE ASSOCIATION'S APPROVED
08:49:35 ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE GRANT PARK CIVICS ASSOCIATION.
08:49:37 THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF OUR PROPERTY SHOWN HERE IN
08:49:41 BLUE.
08:49:42 HILLSBOROUGH TO THE NORTH, CREST TO THE SOUTH, LOIS TO
08:49:46 THE WEST AND DALE MABRY OFF THE SCREEN TO THE EAST.
08:49:49 WE ARE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES.
08:49:55 THIS IS THE LAND USE MAP THAT DANNY DISCUSSED, CC 35 LAND

08:50:00 USE. THIS LAND USE DOES ALLOW UP TO A CI ZONING WHICH IS
08:50:03 WHAT THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS.
08:50:06 THERE ARE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ALL ALONG CREST TO THE
08:50:10 SOUTH.
08:50:11 THE PQP OVER TO THE WEST IS ACTUALLY THE HILLSBOROUGH
08:50:16 COUNTY SCHOOLS FLEET MAINTENANCE YARD AND U.S. RESERVES.
08:50:20 THEN YOU HAVE AL LOPEZ IN THE OPEN SPACE OVER TO THE
08:50:26 EAST.
08:50:28 AS I MENTIONED, CI ZONING, IG TO THE SOUTH.
08:50:31 WE HAVE OLD HARDEES TO THE WEST OF US. THERE IS ALSO A
08:50:31 BRAND NEW TD BANK AT CREST AND LOIS, A SHOPPING PLAZA TO
08:50:31 THE EAST. THERE ARE SEVERAL INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE SOUTH
08:50:31 INCLUDING MAJOR AUTO AND BOAT REPAIR, SERVICES, AND
08:50:31 REPAIR USES SUCH AS PLUMBING, OLD RESTORATION.
08:51:11 THERE WAS A HARDEES TO THE WEST.
08:51:14 THERE IS AN ADULT USE THAT'S LOCATED ALONG NORTH LOIS,
08:51:20 INDUSTRIAL LOCATED ALONG CREST.
08:51:24 THIS PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1970 AS A
08:51:27 WAREHOUSE USE.
08:51:28 THE BUILDING IS EXISTING.
08:51:30 THE BUILDING CONTAINS JUST OVER 44,000 SQUARE FEET.
08:51:34 THERE'S A RETAIL STORE THAT FACES ON HILLSBOROUGH.
08:51:38 I'M SURE MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY.
08:51:42 THERE WAS A SPECIAL USE ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE
08:51:45 BUILDING THAT WAS APPROVED BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN 1991

08:51:51 AND IT WAS FOR A RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY AT THAT
08:51:55 TIME.
08:51:55 IN 1992, GOODWILL DID HAVE SPECIAL USE ON THE PROPERTY
08:52:01 AND IT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE ON THE PROPERTY SINCE 1992.
08:52:05 SO WE ARE NOW APPROACHING ALMOST 30 YEARS THAT THE
08:52:08 FACILITY HAS BEEN IN PLACE ON THE PROPERTY AND HAS BEEN
08:52:11 FUNCTIONING.
08:52:11 THE FACILITY WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY WITH 75 BEDS AND
08:52:17 PREDOMINANTLY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU FOR AN
08:52:19 INCREASE IN THOSE BEDS FROM 75 BEDS TO 140 BEDS.
08:52:24 THAT REALLY IS THE ONLY MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING
08:52:27 FACILITY, AND RETAIL STORE THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
08:52:32 AND WE ARE DOING THAT UNDER THE APPLICATION OF A PD IN
08:52:36 ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THAT USE TO MORE SO BE CALLED WHAT IT
08:52:42 IS THAN TO BE TREATED AS THE RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT
08:52:45 FACILITY.
08:52:49 THIS IS THE PD PLAN.
08:52:51 THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS BEING PROPOSED TO THE
08:52:54 BUILDING.
08:52:55 EVERYTHING IS GOING TO EXIST WITHIN THE EXISTING
08:52:57 FOOTPRINT.
08:52:58 WE ARE MAKING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE PARKING.
08:53:03 THERE IS PARKING SPACES THAT TAKE PLACE TO THE SOUTH OF
08:53:06 THE BUILDING.
08:53:07 THOSE CURRENTLY ARE NOT FORMALIZED SPACES.

08:53:10 WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THOSE FORMALIZED SPACES.
08:53:13 WE ARE GOING TO PUT IN THE ISLANDS.
08:53:14 WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE PARKING IN THAT AREA SOUTH OF
08:53:16 THE BUILDING.
08:53:17 AND WE ARE GOING TO ADD SOME PARKING OVER ON THE WEST
08:53:21 SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
08:53:23 OTHER THAN THAT, THERE IS NO CHANGE OF USE, THERE'S NO
08:53:27 STRUCTURAL MODIFICATION, AND THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING
08:53:30 REQUESTED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
08:53:33 RYAN SHOWED YOU SOME OF THESE PHOTOS.
08:53:35 I WILL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THEM. THIS IS THE NORTH
08:53:37 ELEVATION FROM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, THE RETAIL STORE, THE
08:53:41 WEST ELEVATION OF THE RETAIL STORE, AND THE EAST
08:53:44 ELEVATION.
08:53:45 THERE'S A SHOPPING CENTER ON THIS EAST SIDE.
08:53:47 THIS IS AN INTERIOR LOT LINE HERE.
08:53:50 AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY OR
08:53:53 RESIDENTIAL REENTRY FACILITY, EXCUSE ME, IS LOCATED IN
08:53:56 THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT WOULD
08:54:00 REMAIN AS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED TODAY.
08:54:05 AGAIN, THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS
08:54:08 APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
08:54:10 WE ARE ASKING FOR ONE ITEM, THOUGH, AND THAT IS A FINDING
08:54:13 OF IMPRACTICALITY RELATED TO THE SIDEWALK.
08:54:16 NOT THE SIDEWALK THAT WAS DISCUSSED BY MR. COLLINS, BUT

08:54:20 THE SIDEWALK THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ALONG CREST.
08:54:23 SO PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 22-103, WHENEVER YOU
08:54:28 UNDERGO A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED ZONING APPLICATION, YOU
08:54:31 ARE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK IN THE PUBLIC
08:54:34 RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG THE FULL LENGTH OF ANY AND ALL STREETS
08:54:37 ABUTTING A PARCEL OF PROPERTY AND PARALLEL TO THE STREET.
08:54:42 UNFORTUNATELY, THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE PRESENT ALONG
08:54:46 CREST AVENUE DO NOT ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THAT
08:54:49 SIDEWALK.
08:54:51 NOT ONLY THAT, LET ME QUICKLY GO BACK.
08:54:55 YOU CAN SEE HERE ALONG CREST, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE
08:55:00 SEGMENT OF SIDEWALK FROM LOIS TO DALE MABRY.
08:55:03 SO IF WE BUILT THE SIDEWALK, WE ARE NOT CONNECTING TO ANY
08:55:07 SIDEWALK.
08:55:08 THE TD BANK ALSO JUST GOT REDONE THERE.
08:55:12 THEY DO NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK ALONG CREST EITHER.
08:55:15 BACK TO THE CRITERIA FOR THE FINDING IMPACTALITY,
08:55:19 PURSUANT TO 22-103-C, IT DOES GIVE COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO
08:55:24 MAKE A FINDING OF IMPRACTICALITY OR MAKE A FINDING THAT
08:55:29 THE SIDEWALK IS NOT PRACTICAL BASED ON THESE CONDITIONS,
08:55:33 AND THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY MEETS TWO OF THOSE FOUR
08:55:35 CONDITIONS.
08:55:36 AND THE FIRST IS WHERE THERE IS NO EXISTING SIDEWALK TO
08:55:38 WHICH THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK CAN CONNECT.
08:55:41 THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU.

08:55:42 I DO HAVE SOME OTHER PHOTOS I WILL SHOW YOU AS WELL.
08:55:46 AND THEN THE THIRD CRITERIA SAYS WHETHER STORMWATER
08:55:49 DRAINAGE DITCH OR SIMILAR PUBLIC UTILITIES FACILITY
08:55:51 PREVENTS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK AND NEITHER THE
08:55:57 FACILITY NOR THE SIDEWALK CAN BE REASONABLY RELOCATED.
08:56:01 THAT BEING SAID, LET ME SHOW YOU JUST SOME PHOTOS THAT I
08:56:05 TOOK OUT AT THE SITE.
08:56:06 FROM OUR DRIVEWAY LOOKING WEST TOWARD LOIS -- AND THIS IS
08:56:10 ON CREST AVENUE -- THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL DITCH, ON THE
08:56:15 EAST SIDE THERE IS ALSO NO SIDEWALK.
08:56:18 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CREST, THERE IS NO SIDEWALK, ON THAT
08:56:25 PICTURE ON THE RIGHT THERE.
08:56:27 THEN ON THE TD BANK HERE IS FROM THE CORNER AT LOIS, IT'S
08:56:32 ALSO THAT DITCH CONTINUES, AND THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
08:56:36 BEFORE WE ASK FOR THE SIGNING OF THIS IMPRACTICALITY WE
08:56:41 DID DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHETHER WE COULD INSTALL THE
08:56:44 SIDEWALK IN THIS LOCATION.
08:56:47 DUE TO THE GRADE OF THE DITCH, AS WELL AS THE NEED FOR
08:56:53 RAILING AND INSTALLATION, THE INSTALLATION OF A SEGMENT
08:56:55 OF SIDEWALK HEAR WOULD COST GOODWILL OVER $125,000, AND
08:57:00 GIVEN THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER SIDEWALKS ON CREST ON
08:57:03 EITHER THE NORTH OR SOUTH SIDE, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT
08:57:06 THAT FINDING OF IMPRACTICALITY BE MADE AND WE WILL SIGN
08:57:13 INTO THE TRUST FUND FOR THE LINEAR FOOTAGE.
08:57:17 ALSO, THERE IS GATED ACCESS ON CREST BUT WE DO NOT HAVE

08:57:21 ANY PEDESTRIANS COMING OFF OF CREST WALKING INTO OUR
08:57:23 SITE.
08:57:24 IT IS NOT A FEASIBLE MANEUVER.
08:57:28 SO THAT ALSO IS NOT A DETERRENT TO PROVIDE A SAFE
08:57:33 CONNECTION.
08:57:34 THERE IS NO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IN THAT LOCATION TO
08:57:36 ENTER OUR PROPERTY.
08:57:39 IN RELATION TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AS YOU KNOW, THE
08:57:43 PUBLIC PROCESS REQUIRES US TO MAIL A LETTER AND POST
08:57:48 SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.
08:57:49 IN ADDITION TO THAT WE DID PROVIDE A LETTER ONE WEEK IN
08:57:51 ADVANCE, THE CITY'S LETTER GOING OUT, AND WE DID JUST LET
08:57:57 EVERYBODY KNOW, HEY, THE LETTER IS GOING TO BE COMING
08:57:59 WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICE, WE ARE HAVING A REZONING HERE, WE
08:58:03 ARE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
08:58:05 WE DID NOT GET ANY FEEDBACK ON THOSE LETTERS, DID NOT
08:58:08 RECEIVE ANY PHONE CALLS.
08:58:10 WHAT WE DID PROVIDE COUNCIL IS A PACKAGE WITH OVER 40
08:58:15 SUPPORT LETTERS FOR THIS APPLICATION FROM DIFFERENT
08:58:18 ENTITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.
08:58:24 STAFF FINDINGS, WE DID REVIEW MR. COLLINS' FINDINGS, WERE
08:58:30 FOUND CONSISTENT BY CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPMENT AND REVIEW
08:58:32 COMMITTEE STAFF IN RELATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
08:58:34 IT WAS FOUND INCONSISTENT DUE TO THAT LAST CONNECTION IN
08:58:40 THE PROPERTY.

08:58:42 THOSE POLICIES THAT WERE CITED LEAD TO REDEVELOPMENT AND
08:58:46 DESIGN ELEMENTS AT TIME OF DEVELOPMENT.
08:58:48 WE ARE NOT DEVELOPING OR MODIFYING THE SITE IN ANY WAY AT
08:58:52 THIS TIME.
08:58:54 WE REALLY ARE JUST REUTILIZING A PORTION OF OUR
08:58:58 FOOTPRINT, SO WE DON'T FEEL THAT THOSE POLICIES ARE
08:59:02 APPLICABLE TO THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME.
08:59:05 WE DO FEEL THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
08:59:11 PLAN.
08:59:12 I HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL
08:59:13 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES INCLUDING UTILIZING THE PDS TO
08:59:16 RECOGNIZE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA DIFFERING FROM CRITERIA IN
08:59:21 THE EUCLIDEAN DISTRICT.
08:59:24 WE ARE REALLY, IN THIS CASE, LOOKING MORE SO FOR THE USE.
08:59:30 THE RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY USE HAS CRITERIA THAT
08:59:33 ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO GOODWILL, INCLUDING BEING LICENSED
08:59:37 BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
08:59:39 THIS FACILITY IS NOT LICENSED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF
08:59:41 HEALTH, SO WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO STICK OURSELVES INTO A
08:59:46 DEFINITION THAT MIGHT UTILIZE THIS PD IN ORDER TO BE ABLE
08:59:49 TO RECOGNIZE THIS FACILITY AND ITS OPERATION FOR WHAT IT
08:59:52 REALLY IS.
08:59:53 SECONDLY, THERE IS AN OBJECTIVE 5.1 AND POLICY 5.1.9 THAT
08:59:59 TALKS ABOUT THE LOCATION OF AND CONCENTRATION OF THESE
09:00:03 TYPES OF FACILITIES.

09:00:04 THERE IS NOT ANOTHER FACILITY NEAR US THAT WOULD QUALIFY
09:00:10 TO MAKE THIS A CONCENTRATION.
09:00:12 AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN HERE
09:00:15 AND BEEN IN OPERATION FOR NOW CLOSE TO 30 YEARS BASED ON
09:00:19 COUNCIL'S ORIGINAL APPROVAL BACK IN 1991.
09:00:24 THAT BEING SAID, AS I MENTIONED, REALLY WOULD LIKE TO
09:00:28 RECONFIGURE WHAT IS IN THE PROPERTY, IN THE REENTRY
09:00:33 FACILITY FROM 75 BEDS UP TO A POTENTIAL OF 140.
09:00:38 WE CURRENTLY HAVE 118 BEDS IN THE FACILITY.
09:00:41 THE 140 IS REALLY JUST A LITTLE BUFFER SO THAT 118 BE
09:00:47 INCREASED.
09:00:48 AS NOW THE PD IS A VERY EXTENSIVE AND EXPENSIVE PROCESS,
09:00:52 AND FOR THIS CLIENT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY BUILD
09:00:55 IN A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY AS THEY LOOK TOWARD THE
09:00:58 FUTURE 30 YEARS FOR THEIR FACILITY.
09:01:01 SO WE SEEK TO ESTABLISH THE DEFINITION THAT'S MORE
09:01:04 REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY.
09:01:06 WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT PARKING ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE.
09:01:10 WE DO NOT HAVE ANY WAIVERS FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
09:01:13 AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND WILL
09:01:19 CONTINUE THE OPERATION OF A LONGSTANDING FACILITY THAT
09:01:22 WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1991 TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ADDITIONAL
09:01:26 CLIENTS WITH NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING
09:01:32 COMMUNITY.
09:01:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:01:36 DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?
09:01:39 >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, IT DOES.
09:01:40 >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:01:44 WE DO NOT.
09:01:45 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS REGISTERED TO
09:01:47 SPEAK WAITING ON THE LINE OR AT TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER?
09:01:51 >>THE CLERK: YES, WE DO HAVE REGISTERED LIVE SPEAKERS.
09:01:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:01:55 IF THAT SPEAKER COULD TURN THE CAMERA ON AND UNMUTE
09:02:00 THEMSELVES AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
09:02:06 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
09:02:08 THEY ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
09:02:09 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
09:02:13 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:02:15 >> I DO.
09:02:17 GOOD EVENING.
09:02:17 MY NAME IS PHILIP JACOB.
09:02:20 I SERVE AS DIRECTOR AT MUSIC AT SAINT LAWRENCE CATHOLIC
09:02:23 CHURCH WHERE MANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL REENTRY RESIDENTS
09:02:27 FIND THEIR WAY BY A SHORT BUS RIDE FOR MASS AND SPIRITUAL
09:02:30 ENRICHMENT.
09:02:31 AS YOU CAN HEAR FROM MY ACCENT I AM NOT AMERICAN.
09:02:35 I ARRIVED HERE SIX YEARS AGO FROM ENGLAND ON A WORK VISA
09:02:39 AND NOW HAVE WORKED SUPPORTED BY A GREEN CARD.
09:02:44 IN THE EARLY DAYS OF MY BEING IN THE USA, MY VISA WOULD

09:02:47 LEAD SPECIFICALLY TO MY POSITION AT SAINT LAWRENCE.
09:02:49 IF I LOST MY JOB THERE I WOULD HAVE TO RETURN TO THE UK.
09:02:52 THEREFORE, THE GOODWILL STORE BECAME THE LIFESAVER, WITH
09:02:58 GOODS BOUGHT HERE WITHOUT MAJOR FINANCIAL INVESTMENT.
09:03:01 I HAVE SOMETHING OF AN OBSESSION ABOUT SHOPPING AT
09:03:06 GOODWILL, FINDING TREASURES IN WHAT OTHERS THROW AWAY.
09:03:10 HOSPITALITY IS OR SHOULD BE ONE OF THE MAJOR
09:03:12 CHARACTERISTICS OF CHRISTIANS, SOME IN WELCOMING
09:03:15 STRANGERS HAVE MET ANGELS IN DISGUISE.
09:03:18 IN ENGLAND I DISCOVERED THIS AT FIRST HAND WHEN I OPENED
09:03:21 MY HOUSE TO VULNERABLE ASYLUM SEEKERS WHO WERE AWAITING
09:03:26 DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR DEPORTATION OR THEIR RIGHT TO
09:03:29 REMAIN.
09:03:31 IT'S THEREFORE OF INTEREST TO ME THAT THROUGH THE GOOD
09:03:34 OFFICES OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, GOODWILL OFFERS SOME OF
09:03:37 THOSE RELEASED FROM PRISON AN INCREMENTAL WAY OF
09:03:40 REENTERING SOCIETY.
09:03:42 THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO THE CONVICTED PERSON THAN THE
09:03:46 CRIME THEY HAVE COMMITTED.
09:03:48 THE CRIME IS NEVER THE WHOLE PERSON.
09:03:49 AND THE COUNTY'S RESIDENTIAL REENTRY CENTER GOODWILL
09:03:53 ENABLED THESE MEN TO REDISCOVER THAT WHOLENESS.
09:03:56 THE PERSON THEY WERE CREATED TO BE.
09:03:58 GOD CREATED THE WORLD AND ALL THAT'S IN IT AND GOD SAW
09:04:03 THAT IT WAS GOOD.

09:04:04 I AM SURE THAT GOD SEES THE GOODNESS IN THESE MEN AND GOD
09:04:09 DOES NOT CREATE RUBBISH.
09:04:11 JESUS QUOTED THE PROPHET ISAIAH WHEN HE UNROLLED THE
09:04:15 SCROLL AND SAID THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME,
09:04:17 BECAUSE HE'S ANOINTED ME TO BRING THE GOOD NEWS TO THE
09:04:20 POOR.
09:04:21 HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO CAPTIVES.
09:04:25 WE HAVE INHERITED THIS TASK.
09:04:27 IT IS OUR COMMON DUTY AS RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS TO DO THE
09:04:30 SAME, TO ENSURE THAT THESE MEN WHO HAVE SERVED THEIR TIME
09:04:36 WITH THE PAST CAN WALK INTO THE FUTURE AFRESH AND
09:04:39 LIBERATED FROM ANY STIGMA WHICH BINDS THEM FROM SEEING
09:04:42 THAT THEY ARE CALLED TO BE.
09:04:44 WE HAVE SIR LAWRENCE CHURCH.
09:04:47 I AM HAPPY TO WELCOME THE RESIDENTS OF THE CENTER AS WE
09:04:50 WELCOME ALL PEOPLE, AND WE ARE PROUD TO BE EVEN A SMALL
09:04:53 PART OF THE SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM.
09:04:55 I URGE MEMBERS TO APPROVE THESE PROPOSALS.
09:04:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:05:02 WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER BUT I ATTEND CHURCH AND I ALWAYS
09:05:06 ENJOY YOUR PLAYING, YOUR MUSIC.
09:05:10 YES, I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
09:05:12 I AM JUST SAYING WHEN THE MUSIC COMES ON, AND YOU DO GOOD
09:05:14 WORK. THANKS VERY MUCH.
09:05:17 DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?

09:05:20 ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
09:05:23 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE ELSE, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD I
09:05:25 WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION.
09:05:27 WE DID RECEIVE LETTERS IN SUPPORT AS MS. ABBYE FEELEY
09:05:32 MENTIONED.
09:05:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:05:34 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF ANY COUNCIL
09:05:38 MEMBERS?
09:05:42 >> I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN A CITY COUNCIL
09:05:44 HEARING [AUDIO INTERFERENCE] BUT I WANTED TO ECHO YOUR
09:05:48 REMARKS, WHICH HAS NO RELEVANCY WHATSOEVER TO MY VOTE
09:05:52 TONIGHT, BUT JUST APPRECIATING THE NICE GENTLEMAN.
09:05:58 I SAY THANK YOU.
09:05:59 THAT'S ALL.
09:06:00 THANK YOU.
09:06:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:06:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THIS REQUIRE REVISION BETWEEN
09:06:07 FIRST AND SECOND READING?
09:06:08 REFRESH MY RECOLLECTION.
09:06:10 MS. FEELEY IS SAYING YES SO I WOULD ASK THAT BE MADE PART
09:06:13 OF THE MOTION IF THAT IS A MOTION THAT COUNCIL
09:06:16 ENTERTAINS.
09:06:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND REMEMBER THERE IS THE SUBSTITUTE
09:06:18 ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE READING.
09:06:20 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?

09:06:23 MS. FEELEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY REBUTTAL OR ANYTHING ELSE TO
09:06:26 ADD AT THIS POINT?
09:06:29 >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO. THERE WERE TWO REVISIONS THAT WERE
09:06:31 INCLUDED IN MR. MANASSE'S STAFF REPORT ABOUT THE GATE AND
09:06:36 ALSO MAKING ANOTHER MODIFICATION THAT WE WILL COMPLETE
09:06:39 THOSE TWO REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, IF
09:06:42 WE RECEIVE A FAVORABLE --
09:06:49 >>> AND COME BACK TO THE CITY?
09:06:52 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I HAVE ONE MORE SECOND READING NEXT
09:06:54 WEEK.
09:06:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A QUESTION, AS PART OF THIS MOTION,
09:07:00 COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE A SPECIFIC FINDING AS TO THE SIDEWALK
09:07:03 ISSUE?
09:07:05 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE IS A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT
09:07:08 SAYS IF COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THIS PD THAT THEY ARE MAKING
09:07:10 THAT FINDING OF IMPRACTICALITY.
09:07:14 I CAN READ THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
09:07:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU HAVE IT.
09:07:18 I THINK YOU MADE A SUFFICIENT MENTION IN YOUR REPORT.
09:07:21 THAT'S FINE.
09:07:21 THANK YOU.
09:07:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: AND IT'S UNDER THE NOTE SECTION UNDER
09:07:26 SIDEWALKS, NOTE NUMBER 2.
09:07:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:07:30 MAY I HAVE A MOTION?

09:07:33 MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:07:35 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ANY OBJECTION?
09:07:40 ALL RIGHT.
09:07:43 WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC
09:07:45 HEARING IS CLOSED.
09:07:48 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE AND REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND
09:07:50 SECOND READING.
09:07:52 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
09:07:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:07:57 AND I APOLOGIZE.
09:07:59 CAN YOU REMIND ME, MR. CHAIR, WHAT NUMBER WE ARE ON?
09:08:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 13.
09:08:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
09:08:09 I DIDN'T WANT TO READ THE WRONG ONE.
09:08:11 I MOVE A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR FIRST READING
09:08:13 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
09:08:15 GENERAL VICINITY MUCH 4102 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND
09:08:20 4059 WEST CREST AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
09:08:22 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
09:08:25 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD
09:08:28 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, REENTRY FACILITY, AND
09:08:31 ALL CI USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THANK YOU,
09:08:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH REVISIONS.
09:08:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:08:45 ROLL CALL VOTE.

09:08:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:08:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:08:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: (NO RESPONSE)
09:08:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:08:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:09:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:09:01 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSTAINING.
09:09:03 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22ND
09:09:07 AT 5:01 P.M.
09:09:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:09:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:12 HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
09:09:15 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:09:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE MORE ITEM.
09:09:17 ITEM NUMBER 23.
09:09:18 >>CATE WELLS: WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE
09:09:26 BREAK BEFORE THE LAST ITEM?
09:09:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OF COURSE WE CAN.
09:09:30 TURN YOUR CAMERAS OFF AND MUTE YOUR PHONES.
09:09:34 IT'S 9.09.
09:09:37 LET'S SAY 9:15.
09:09:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GENTLEMEN, YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERAS
09:10:01 OFF.
09:10:01 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL BROADCASTING OR RECORDING.
09:10:07 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)

09:10:09
09:10:10
09:18:02 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH THE
09:18:09 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:18:11 >> YES.
09:18:13 >> YES.
09:18:13 >> SOMEBODY HAS A CAMERA LENS BLOCKED.
09:18:21 KRAMER, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:18:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU ARE SPEAKING TONIGHT YOU HAVE
09:18:37 TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON.
09:18:38 THERE HAS TO BE A VISUAL AUDIO.
09:18:40 >> IT LOOKS LIKE I AM HAVING SOME DIFFICULTIES.
09:18:51 THANK YOU, THOUGH.
09:18:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU PLANNING ON SPEAKING?
09:18:54 >> NO, SIR.
09:18:55 THANK YOU.
09:18:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:18:58 WELL, ARE YOU READY TO START?
09:19:03 >> GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:19:05 FOR THE RECORD, CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY
09:19:08 ATTORNEY.
09:19:09 ALSO PRESENT THIS EVENING IS TONYA HARGRETT, ASSISTANT
09:19:15 SENIOR ATTORNEY IN OUR LITIGATION GROUP.
09:19:17 THE LAST ITEM BEFORE COUNCIL IS THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
09:19:22 RECOMMENDATION, AND THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF FILED BY

09:19:27 DEVELOPMENT TO RRZ.
09:19:30 70.51 OF FLORIDA STATUTES OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE
09:19:34 ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION ACT.
09:19:37 I WANT TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS BEFORE PROVIDING THIS
09:19:41 APPLICATION AND THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
09:19:46 UNLIKE THE STANDARD REZONING APPLICATIONS CONSIDERED
09:19:48 EARLIER THIS EVENING, ANYTIME THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS A
09:19:52 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL, YOU ARE ROLE IS LEGISLATORS AND
09:19:56 ALLOWS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S
09:19:58 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDING
09:20:02 BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPACT AND PUBLISHED INTEREST
09:20:07 INVOLVING THE SETTLEMENT.
09:20:08 AFTER I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, YOU WILL HEAR FROM
09:20:11 SCOTT STEADY WHO WAS RETAINED BY THE CITY AND SPECIAL
09:20:15 MAGISTRATE.
09:20:17 WHILE MR. STEADY MAKES HIS PRESENTATION ON THE MEDIA
09:20:20 ISSUES PROCESS AND THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU WILL HEAR FROM
09:20:24 CITY STAFF, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE APPLICANT, THE
09:20:27 PUBLIC, AND THEN PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH AN
09:20:30 OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
09:20:32 FINALLY, AS YOU CONSIDER THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
09:20:35 ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AT TONIGHT'S HEARING, PLEASE
09:20:38 REMEMBER THAT ALTHOUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
09:20:41 RECOMMENDATION IS A PUBLIC RECORD, ACTIONS OR STATEMENTS
09:20:45 FOR REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE CITY, FOR AN OFFER TO

09:20:50 COMPROMISE, AND INADMISSIBLE IN ANY PROCEEDING.
09:20:53 I MENTION THIS IN THE EVENT CITY COUNCIL IS CONCERNED
09:20:55 ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING PRECEDENT IF THE
09:21:00 MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.
09:21:03 AT YOUR DECEMBER 12, 2019 MEETING, CITY COUNCIL DENIED
09:21:06 THE REZONING FROM IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED
09:21:11 DEVELOPMENT WHICH WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
09:21:14 MULTIFAMILY PROJECT 115 DWELLING UNITS WITHIN SIX
09:21:20 BUILDINGS.
09:21:20 THEREAFTER A REQUEST FOR RELIEF WAS FILED ON JANUARY
09:21:23 10th WHICH ALLEGED THAT -- ESTABLISHING THE
09:21:29 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THAT THE
09:21:35 REQUESTED WAIVERS.
09:21:36 IN ADDITION TO THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF FOR WRIT OF
09:21:40 CERTIORARI FOR THE COURT, SEEKS TO QUASI-JUDICIAL THE
09:21:45 CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION ALLEGING THAT THE RECORD LACKS
09:21:48 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE DENIAL.
09:21:50 AND THAT CITY COUNCIL FAILED TO ADHERE TO THE ESSENTIAL
09:21:54 REQUIREMENTS OF LAW, AND CONSIDERED POLICIES AND
09:21:57 COMPREHENSIVE PLANS REGARDING CLOSE IMPOSING EVACUATION
09:22:03 TIMES AS GOTS TO SHELTER SPACE MITIGATION.
09:22:06 ON OCTOBER 15th OF THIS YEAR THE COURT GRANTED A
09:22:09 CONDITIONAL STAY IN THE LITIGATION BASED UPON THE 7051
09:22:15 PROCEEDINGS.
09:22:16 THE STAY IN LITIGATION OFFERED THE PETITION FOR REGISTRAR

09:22:20 TODAY.
09:22:22 NOW TURNING YOUR ATTENTION BACK TO THE PROCEDURAL
09:22:25 HISTORY, THIS GOES BACK TO 70.51 PROCEEDING.
09:22:29 FOR THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF ORIGINALLY FILED REQUEST ARE
09:22:31 THE CITY, MY OFFICE PROVIDED COUNCIL WITH A MEMORANDUM
09:22:34 DESCRIBING THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS UNDER SECTION
09:22:37 70.51 FLORIDA STATUTES.
09:22:40 IT ALLOWS THE PROCESS, THE FIRST REQUIRES THE SPECIAL
09:22:45 MAGISTRATE TO CONDUCT AN INFORMAL MEDIATION DURING WHICH
09:22:48 THE CITY AND BOND CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT, WITH
09:22:54 COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION.
09:22:56 IN THIS CASE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CONDUCTED AN INFORMAL
09:22:59 MEDIATION ON MARCH 13th.
09:23:01 DURING THE MEDIATION, BOND PROVISION A REVISED SITE PLAN
09:23:07 FOR THE BASIS FOR THE DENIAL.
09:23:09 THOSE NUMBERS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE ELECTED TO
09:23:12 PARTICIPATE CITY REPRESENT REPRESENTATIVE.
09:23:16 AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEDIATION THE CITY, BOND AND THE
09:23:19 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AND AGREED TO CLARIFY FINALIZING THE
09:23:24 SITE PLAN THAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
09:23:26 THE APPLICANT FILED A REVISED SITE PLAN ON MARCH 19TH
09:23:29 INCLUDING PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND A SPECIAL
09:23:33 MAGISTRATE BY ORDER ISSUED ON APRIL 24 RECOMMENDS THAT
09:23:37 CITY COUNCIL ACCEPT THIS PROPOSAL.
09:23:39 TONIGHT'S HEARING IS PART OF THE FIRST STEP OF THE

09:23:42 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL TO
09:23:45 CONSIDER THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AS A PROPOSED
09:23:49 SETTLEMENT.
09:23:51 IF CITY COUNCIL REJECTS THE MEDIATED RESOLUTION, THE
09:23:54 SECOND STEVE OF THE PROCESS WILL COMMENCE AND THE SPECIAL
09:23:58 MAGISTRATE WILL HOLD ITS HEARING FOR FACTS AND
09:24:02 CIRCUMSTANCES SET FORTH IN THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF TO
09:24:04 DETERMINE WHETHER CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION OF 2019 IS
09:24:09 UNREASONABLE OR UNFAIRLY BURDENS THE PROPERTY.
09:24:12 THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS DENIED
09:24:14 IN DECEMBER, AND SO IT'S YOUR ROLE TONIGHT AS I MENTIONED
09:24:18 AT THE OUTSET OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, YOU ARE CONSIDERING A
09:24:21 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL AND YOUR ACTIONS TONIGHT AS
09:24:26 LEGISLATORS.
09:24:28 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN CONTAINS 215 UNITS IN SIX
09:24:32 BUILDINGS AND A CLUBHOUSE.
09:24:33 IN ADDITION THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN REQUESTED FOUR
09:24:36 SEPARATE WAIVERS INCLUDING A REQUEST TO REMOVE FIVE
09:24:40 NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREES. A REQUEST TO REMOVE UP TO 90%
09:24:44 OF THE TREES ON THE SITE, REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF
09:24:47 LOADING BAYS AND A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF PARKING
09:24:50 SPACES FROM 360 TO 310.
09:24:54 COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED THE REZONING APPLICATION,
09:24:58 SOME OF THE STRUCTURES WERE LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES
09:25:00 OF THE IMPACTED AREA, AND THUS REQUIRED COMPLIANCE WITH

09:25:05 OBJECTIVES IN POLICIES IN THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT
09:25:09 ELEMENTARY IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:25:11 THE DENIAL IS BASED IN PART ON BOND'S FAILURE TO MEET
09:25:15 BURDEN OF PROOF OF THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENTARY
09:25:19 OBJECTIVE 1.2 AND FAILURE TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR
09:25:22 APPROVAL OF THE WAIVERS.
09:25:27 PROPOSES A CLUBHOUSE AND A TOTAL OF 214 UNITS LOCATED
09:25:30 WITHIN FIVE BUILDINGS, ONE OF WHICH INCLUDES SIX
09:25:34 TOWNHOMES.
09:25:36 A QUICK SIDE NOTE, THE TOWNHOME COMPONENT WAS ADDED IN
09:25:39 RESPONSE TO COMMENTS REGARDING THE NEED FOR THREE BEDROOM
09:25:44 UNITS.
09:25:45 FURTHER REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN INCLUDE REMOVAL OF ALL
09:25:47 STRUCTURES FROM THE BOUNDARY OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
09:25:50 AREA AND THE REMOVAL OF THE PREVIOUS REQUESTED WAIVERS.
09:25:54 REMOVING THE WAIVERS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE
09:25:58 SINCE THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE TO JUSTIFY THE WAIVERS
09:26:01 THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY ASKING FOR.
09:26:02 FURTHER, LESS THAN 50% OF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE
09:26:07 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, AND NONE OF THE BUILDING FAT
09:26:10 PRINTS ARE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, THE
09:26:12 APPLICANT WOULD NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE GOALS,
09:26:16 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT
09:26:19 ELEMENT.
09:26:20 FINALLY, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: ONE, THE DEVELOPER

09:26:25 WILL AGREE TO AN ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATION THAT ALL GRAND
09:26:28 TREES ON-SITE WILL BE PRESERVED.
09:26:30 TWO, DEVELOPER WILL AGREE TO CERTIFY THAT THE TREE CANOPY
09:26:34 WITHIN THE CITY'S PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE
09:26:39 SITE WILL NOT BE DISTURBED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
09:26:41 PROJECT.
09:26:42 THREE, THE DEVELOPER WILL AGREE TO IMPLEMENT AND
09:26:49 CROSSWALK IN COOPERATION WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE, WITH
09:26:55 THE MAYOR'S PROGRAM TO IMPROVE SAFETY.
09:26:58 AND FOUR, THE DEVELOPER AT ITS EXPENSE WILL CONSTRUCT TWO
09:27:03 HART RECOMMENDED BUS STOP IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY THE
09:27:06 INTERSECTION OF INTERBAY BOULEVARD AND MANHATTAN AVENUE.
09:27:10 IF THE REVISED SITE PLAN IS APPROVED THIS EVENING I ASK
09:27:14 THAT THE CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN
09:27:16 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
09:27:18 FOLLOWING RECEIPT OF THE REVISED SITE PLAN, I PERSONALLY
09:27:20 CONTACTED EACH PERSON WHO ATTENDED MEDIATION.
09:27:24 STEPHANIE POYNTER WHO LIVES IN THE NORTH NOTICE AREA
09:27:28 ACKNOWLEDGED REPRESENTATIVES AND WHILE SHE'S NOT INVOLVED
09:27:32 SHE WOULDN'T OPPOSE THE PROJECT.
09:27:34 IN A REGULAR REZONING REQUIRED BY JUDICIAL HEARINGS, THE
09:27:43 APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED EVIDENCE THAT THE PROJECT
09:27:48 MEETS THE CITY'S REGULATIONS, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
09:27:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A SETTLEMENT
09:27:54 PROPOSAL, THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT CITY COUNCIL MUST

09:27:57 TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION INCLUDING THE FACT THAT IF THE
09:28:00 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL IS APPROVED, THE PETITION FOR WRIT IN
09:28:04 CASE NUMBER 20-EA-000-321 IN THE 13th JUDICIAL
09:28:11 CIRCUIT WILL BE DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE WITH EACH PARTY
09:28:14 BEARING THEIR OWN ATTORNEY FEES AND COSTS.
09:28:18 PURSUANT TO SECTION 7.51, CITY COUNCIL HAS THREE OPTIONS
09:28:23 THIS EVENING.
09:28:24 FIRST, AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY AND
09:28:28 AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE OTHER RELEVANT
09:28:31 MATTERS IN THE PENDING LITIGATION, CITY COUNCIL MAY
09:28:36 ACCEPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDATION AND PROCEED
09:28:39 TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATION.
09:28:41 IN THIS CASE, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
09:28:44 RECOMMENDATION REQUIRES COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE MOTION
09:28:47 APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT, AND OF COURSE THE SECOND
09:28:54 READING WILL BE REQUIRED.
09:28:56 ON THE OTHER HAND, IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT BOND
09:29:00 FAILED TO MEET ITS BURDEN AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION
09:29:02 THE OTHER RELEVANT MATTERS IN LITIGATION, THEN CITY
09:29:06 COUNCIL MAY REJECT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
09:29:08 RECOMMENDATION.
09:29:10 AND FINALLY, IT MAY MODIFY THE RECOMMENDATION AND
09:29:14 IMPLEMENT THE MODIFIED RECOMMENDATION WITH ACCEPTANCE OF
09:29:20 THE MODIFICATION.
09:29:21 SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WILL TURN THE

09:29:23 PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. STEADY.
09:29:26 THANK YOU.
09:29:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
09:29:28 >>SCOTT STEADY: CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:29:44 THIS IS SCOTT STEADY, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IN THIS
09:29:48 MATTER.
09:29:48 I ONLY HAVE A FEW COMMENTS TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT CATE
09:29:52 SAID.
09:29:53 ONE IS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS UNDER
09:29:57 CHAPTER 70.51, IN A CITY COUNCIL HEARING, DON'T
09:30:06 NECESSARILY HAVE A RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.
09:30:10 THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO INDICATE A DESIRE TO ACTUALLY
09:30:14 PARTICIPATE, SO REALLY FEW PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
09:30:19 THROUGH CITY STAFF IN THESE PROCESSES THE DEVELOPER TO
09:30:25 ALLOW PARTICIPANTS AT THE CITY COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE IN
09:30:29 THIS PROCESS.
09:30:32 SO EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED AND COMMENTED, SUBMITTED
09:30:35 EVIDENCE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WERE ALLOWED AS I
09:30:41 RECALL PARTICIPATED IN OUR MEDIATION ON MARCH 13th.
09:30:46 AND REALLY WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR, THE APPLICATION
09:30:54 HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, AND THREE OR FOUR MORE TIMES,
09:31:01 BUT THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE SITE PLAN THAT I
09:31:08 THINK MAKES A MUCH BETTER PROJECT FOR THE CITY AND FOR
09:31:11 THE RESIDENTS.
09:31:12 SO UNLESS THERE IS ANY COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY DURING THE

09:31:17 PROCESS, THEY WERE VERY COOPERATIVE IN NEGOTIATING WITH
09:31:23 THE CITY AND YOUR STAFF ON YOUR BEHALF I THINK DID A GOOD
09:31:26 JOB OF TWEAKING, SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY I WOULD
09:31:31 RECOMMEND.
09:31:33 SO I SUGGEST WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRESENTATION.
09:31:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:31:38 WHO IS NEXT?
09:31:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
09:31:52 THANK YOU.
09:31:57 THIS IS REZ 19-69.
09:32:00 IT'S A PD APPLICATION.
09:32:03 THE REVIEW COMPLIANCE HAS REVIEWED THIS PETITION AND
09:32:07 FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA
09:32:10 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
09:32:12 AGAIN, AS MS. WELLS STATED, SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF
09:32:16 CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, THERE ARE
09:32:18 FURTHER MODIFICATIONS OF THE SITE PLAN FOUND IN YOUR
09:32:21 STAFF REPORT TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING,
09:32:24 IN ADDITION TO CONDITIONS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
09:32:28 AS FAR AS BACKGROUND, THIS APPLICATION WAS DENIED AGAIN
09:32:32 ON DECEMBER 19th, 2019.
09:32:35 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AT
09:32:39 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD FROM THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT
09:32:43 OF INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO CONSTRUCT
09:32:46 A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

09:32:48 THE 9.31-ACRE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A
09:32:51 WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION USE, AND IS LOCATED ONE LOT TO
09:32:55 THE WEST IN THE INTERBAY BOULEVARD, SOUTH LOIS AVENUE
09:32:59 INTERSECTION.
09:33:00 THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY RETAIL TO THE EAST AND WEST
09:33:05 WITHIN THE IG ZONING DISTRICT.
09:33:07 A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FILE NUMBER REZ 0475 TO THE SOUTH
09:33:11 FOR TOWNHOMES.
09:33:14 A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FILE NUMBER Z-02-57 TO THE NORTH
09:33:21 APARTMENTS AND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS (AUDIO
09:33:26 INTERFERENCE) TO THE NORTHWEST FOR TOWNHOMES.
09:33:29 CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS DENIED APPLICATION SITE PLAN TO
09:33:32 THE CURRENT ONE AS STATED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, REDUCTION
09:33:36 OF NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 216 TO 214, ELIMINATION OF ALL
09:33:41 WAIVERS, AND RETAINING THE LOCATION OF THE STORMWATER
09:33:46 DRAINAGE DENIAL THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
09:33:51 REQUESTED SUMMARY, THEY ARE CURRENTLY ASKING FOR 214
09:33:55 DWELLING UNITS WITHIN FIVE BUILDINGS, A CLUBHOUSE.
09:34:00 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE FIVE FEET TO THE NORTH, TO THE
09:34:03 SOUTH 25 FEET, EAST 7 FEET, AND WEST 7 FEET.
09:34:07 AND THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HIGHLIGHT OF 60 FEET.
09:34:10 BASED ON THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND
09:34:13 BEDROOMS, A TOTAL OF 362 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND
09:34:19 352 ARE BEING PROVIDED.
09:34:22 THE PROPOSED PARKING SURFACE FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE

09:34:25 PROPERTY FROM ONE TWO-WAY DRIVEWAY ON UNIT BAY BOULEVARD.
09:34:30 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.
09:34:34 THIS IS THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE USE THAT I DESCRIBED.
09:34:36 HERE IS INTERBAY BOULEVARD.
09:34:40 WHERE MY CURSOR IS, IS THE EXISTING DRAINAGE CANAL AGAIN
09:34:43 THAT WILL BE RETAINED WITH THE SITE PLAN.
09:34:46 THERE ARE PDS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST FOR OTHER
09:34:55 MULTIFAMILY OR TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS TO THE
09:34:58 SOUTH, INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE WEST.
09:35:07 HERE IS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN UNDER CONSIDERATION
09:35:10 TONIGHT.
09:35:10 AGAIN, THERE ARE FIVE TOTAL RESIDENTS OR BUILDINGS, ONE,
09:35:15 TWO, THREE, FOUR APARTMENTS AND MULTIFAMILY.
09:35:19 THERE IS ONE SET OF ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY THAT WILL BE
09:35:29 WITHIN ONE BUILDING.
09:35:30 THERE IS A CLUBHOUSE ALONG INTERBAY BOULEVARD THAT WILL
09:35:33 SERVE THE ENTIRE SITE.
09:35:37 SURFACE PARKING.
09:35:38 THE EXISTING DRAINAGE CANAL THAT WILL BE RETAINED.
09:35:41 TALLAHASSEE DRIVEWAY CONNECTION TO EXTRA REQUIRED PARKING
09:35:48 THAT IS TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.
09:35:57 AND THE SITE PLAN ARE THE PROTECTIVE RADIUS FOR TREES
09:36:00 THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.
09:36:02 AGAIN THERE ARE NO WAIVERS REQUESTED WITH THIS
09:36:04 APPLICATION.

09:36:06 THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL NATURAL RESOURCES REQUESTED
09:36:13 WAIVERS.
09:36:15 THE TREE TABLE AND THE NATURAL RESOURCES ARE INVENTORIES
09:36:20 ARE INCLUDED IN THE SITE PLAN.
09:36:22 WITH THE REQUIRED TREE TABLE THAT SHOWS THE DEBITS AND
09:36:26 CREDITS OF TREES TO THE SAME, AND TO BE REMOVED, AND
09:36:30 AGAIN THEY ARE WITHIN THEIR REQUIRED NUMBER OF RETENTION.
09:36:35 ELEVATIONS FOR THE CLUBHOUSE AS PROPOSED.
09:36:38 STAFF WILL REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT ELEVATIONS ARE JUST
09:36:41 FOR MASS AND SCALE IN THIS INSTANCE, AND ARE NOT HELD TO
09:36:44 ANY ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS BECAUSE THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN
09:36:48 ONE OF THE CITY'S OVERLAY DISTRICTS NOR WITHIN A
09:36:51 REGULATED HISTORIC DISTRICT.
09:36:54 HERE IS AN ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED ATTACHED
09:36:59 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS.
09:37:02 AND THEN THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FRONT AND REAR OF THE
09:37:05 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
09:37:08 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AGAIN I WILL REMIND CITY
09:37:10 COUNCIL STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
09:37:15 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.
09:37:17 THANK YOU.
09:37:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:37:20 WHO IS NEXT ON THIS?
09:37:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION TO STAFF?
09:37:31 >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF?

09:37:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MR. COLLINS ON THE LINE
09:37:34 HERE.
09:37:37 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD A QUESTION.
09:37:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE RECORD.
09:37:45 THE PROJECT, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE PROJECT WERE
09:37:50 ALL MOVED AWAY FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ZONE?
09:37:55 ON THE REVISED SITE PLAN, MRS. SAMANIEGO?
09:37:59 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THAT IS CORRECT.
09:38:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:38:04 PLANNING COMMISSION.
09:38:09 GO AHEAD.
09:38:09 DANNY COLLINS.
09:38:10 >>DANNY COLLINS: SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
09:38:14 THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
09:38:21 STAFF.
09:38:23 THE NEXT CASE IS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND
09:38:26 MORE SPECIFICALLY GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:38:34 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS PORT TAMPA
09:38:35 COMMUNITY CENTER WHICH IS A HALF MILE TO THE WEST OF THE
09:38:37 SUBJECT SITE.
09:38:38 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT
09:38:42 SERVICE POWHATTAN AVENUE AND INTERBAY BOULEVARD.
09:38:47 THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE A.
09:38:51 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE

09:38:54 SUBJECT SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
09:38:57 HAZARD AREA, WITHIN POLICIES 1.1.3 AND POLICY 1.1.4.
09:39:07 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWING THE
09:39:09 SURROUNDING PROPERTY, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF INTERBAY
09:39:12 BOULEVARD, JUST TO THE WEST OF SOUTH LOIS.
09:39:16 HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
09:39:21 SUBJECT SITE IS 24 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
09:39:27 THERE IS RESIDENTIAL 10 TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE
09:39:29 AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL 20 TO THE SOUTH.
09:39:35 AND THEN THE AREA TO THE NORTH, EAST AND WEST SURROUNDED
09:39:38 BY THAT UU 24.
09:39:42 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND
09:39:45 FOUND -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] AND A FUTURE PEDESTRIAN
09:39:50 CONNECTION TO THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE CONNECTING
09:39:52 THE SITE TO THE FUTURE PARK TO BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF
09:39:55 THE SOUTH TAMPA GREENWAY.
09:39:57 THAT IS ALSO PLANNING A SIDEWALK CONNECTION TO AN
09:40:00 EXISTING SIDEWALK ON INTERBAY BOULEVARD WHICH CONNECTS
09:40:03 INTERBAY BOULEVARD TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
09:40:07 THE SIDEWALK ALSO PROVIDES INTERNAL CONNECTIONS WITHIN
09:40:11 THE SITE.
09:40:13 ALSO PROVIDES HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAMPA'S GROWING
09:40:16 POPULATION, AND WILL BE ENCOURAGED -- WILL DEVELOP THE
09:40:24 SITE WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND CREATE
09:40:27 OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

09:40:28 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS THE PLANNING COMMISSION
09:40:30 STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:40:33 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:40:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
09:40:35 PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS TIME?
09:40:39 HEARING NONE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE
09:40:43 APPLICANTS ONLINE.
09:40:46 MR. GARDNER?
09:40:50 >>TRUETT GARDNER: YES.
09:40:50 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:40:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:40:51 GO AHEAD.
09:40:55 >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 N. ASHLEY DRIVE.
09:40:58 I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE ON A SUBSIDIARY OF
09:41:02 DAWN DEVELOPMENT.
09:41:02 ATTENDING WITH ME ARE TYLER HUDSON, KYLE, CHRISTOPHER
09:41:08 HAGGAN IS OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, VIRTUALLY.
09:41:10 I SEE THEM UP THERE.
09:41:12 WE HAVE RICKY FREDERICKA, OUR ARBORIST AS WELL AS OUR
09:41:16 CIVIL ENGINEER EDDIE MCDONALD, AND WE HAVE DON MCLAREN OF
09:41:18 HILL, WARD, HENDERSON WHO HAS HANDLED THE LITIGATION
09:41:22 ASPECT OF THIS CASE.
09:41:24 MRS. WELLS, MRS. SAMANIEGO AND MR. COLLINS HAVE DONE A
09:41:27 GREAT JOB SUMMARIZING THE NEW PLAN, AS WELL AS WHAT'S
09:41:30 TRANSPIRED WITH RESPECT TO LITIGATION, AND THE SUCCESSFUL

09:41:33 MEDIATION THAT OCCURRED ON MARCH 13th.
09:41:36 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO SPEND A FEW
09:41:39 MINUTES ON OUR APPROACH AND THE OBJECTIVES WE DETERMINED
09:41:42 AFTER THE DENIAL IN DECEMBER.
09:41:46 THIS MATTER HAS POTENTIAL OF BEING LITIGATED, WE BROUGHT
09:41:49 IN SCOTT McCLEARY TO STRENGTHEN OUR LEGAL POSITION TO
09:41:54 THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.
09:41:57 OUR SECOND OBJECTIVE WAS TO WORK TO COMPLETELY REDESIGN
09:42:03 THE PROJECT TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
09:42:05 CITY, THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THE ENVIRONMENT
09:42:08 SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE TREES.
09:42:12 IRONICALLY, WHAT WE LEARNED THROUGH THIS PROCESS WAS OUR
09:42:14 TWO OBJECTIVES WERE ENTIRELY LINKED.
09:42:16 I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IS TO SHOW YOU
09:42:20 THESE SLIDES.
09:42:20 IF YOU WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE OUR SCREEN.
09:42:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:42:25 GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:43:14 WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING YET.
09:43:17 >>TRUETT GARDNER: WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
09:44:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:44:03 WE CAN SEE IT.
09:44:03 >> CAN YOU SEE THAT?
09:44:11 >>> YES, WE CAN.
09:44:12 >> GREAT.

09:44:12 SO THE FIRST SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE EXISTENCE -- AS YOU
09:44:16 RECALL THIS IS THE OLD HURLEY MATT COMPANY.
09:44:20 THIS BUILDING SAT VACANT AND BASICALLY IN THIS CONDITION
09:44:23 FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
09:44:26 NEXT IS OUR NEW SITE PLAN.
09:44:28 A COUPLE THINGS TO POINT OUT HERE.
09:44:30 ONE, AS MARY MENTIONED, WE HAVE GONE FROM SIX APARTMENT
09:44:35 BUILDINGS TO FOUR, AND THEN ADDED THE SIX TOWNHOMES.
09:44:39 YOU WILL SEE TO THE RIGHT IS NORTH.
09:44:41 YOU WILL SEE THOSE SIX TOWNHOMES ON THE FAR RIGHT THERE.
09:44:46 AND THE OTHER TO POINT YOU TO THE BIG CHANGE IS ON THE
09:44:49 EAST SIDE WHERE WE RETAIN THE DRAINAGE CANAL AND THE
09:44:54 STORMWATER POND WHICH ENABLES US TO KEEP THE TREES AND
09:44:59 ALSO THE GRAND TREES AS WELL.
09:45:05 THIS IS THE NEW RENDERING.
09:45:08 I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT.
09:45:11 ONE IT'S ATTRACTIVE LOOKING, BUT TWO, THE PRIOR PLAN, WE
09:45:14 HAD MORE APARTMENT BUILDINGS WAS THREE STORIES, AND SO IN
09:45:18 ORDER TO REMOVE OURSELVES FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
09:45:22 AREA WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS THAT CAUSED ZOM
09:45:27 TO INCREASE BUILDING SIZE FROM THREE STORIES TO FOUR
09:45:29 STORIES, STILL 60 FEET WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
09:45:34 UNDERLYING IG ZONING, BUT I POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE IN
09:45:37 TALKING WITH OUR CLIENT, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE JUST
09:45:40 SO YOU KNOW HAVE RESULTED IN EXCESS OF A MILLION DOLLARS

09:45:43 IN ADDITIONAL COSTS TO THEM.
09:45:47 THIS RENDERING HERE, THESE ARE THE SIX TOWNHOMES.
09:45:50 AGAIN THIS WAS AT THE SPECIFIC REQUEST OF STEPHANIE
09:45:55 ORPHAN HORNER AND SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO FELT
09:45:58 THEY WANTED MORE OF A FAMILY ENVIRONMENT.
09:46:00 PREVIOUSLY WE HAD NO THREE BEDROOM UNITS, AND HER REQUEST
09:46:04 WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR TOWNHOMES SO WE ADDED SIX ALL OF
09:46:07 WHICH ARE THREE BEDROOMS.
09:46:10 THEN AS IT RELATES TOTAL BASIS OF DENIAL, WHICH WERE TWO
09:46:15 FOLD, THE FIRST ONE YOU WILL RECALL WAS THE FACT THAT WE
09:46:18 WERE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, AND THE ELEMENTS OF
09:46:24 THIS APPLICATION, AS STATED, MULTIPLE TIMES, WE ARE NO
09:46:27 LONGER IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, SO THAT ELEMENT
09:46:31 NO LONGER APPLIED.
09:46:32 SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE TREES, WE HAD OR HAVE EIGHT
09:46:38 GRAND TREES ON SITE.
09:46:39 PREVIOUSLY WE WERE REQUESTING FIVE BE REMOVED.
09:46:42 WE ARE NOW RETAINING 100%, SO ALL EIGHT OF THOSE GRAND
09:46:46 TREES WILL BE PRESERVED.
09:46:48 NEXT WE HAD ANOTHER WAIVER THAT REDUCED THE RETENTION, TO
09:46:52 10% OF THE TREES ON-SITE.
09:46:55 WHAT CODE REQUIRES IS 50%.
09:46:57 WE ARE ABLE NOW TO GO WAY BEYOND CODE AND RETAIN 77% OF
09:47:01 TREES ON-SITE.
09:47:02 THEN LASTLY WITH RESPECT TO THE PARKING SPACES AND THE

09:47:05 LOADING BERTHS, IF YOU WILL RECALL, WE WERE REQUESTING A
09:47:08 REDUCTION IN PARKING BEFORE.
09:47:10 WE ARE NOW GOING TO BE IN CODE COMPLIANCE FOR VISITOR
09:47:15 SPACES AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE LOADING BERTHS, THREE
09:47:18 WERE REQUIRED BEFORE.
09:47:21 WE WERE NOT PROVIDING.
09:47:22 NOW WE ARE PROVIDING ALL THREE OF THOSE LOADING BERTHS.
09:47:30 I WILL LEAVE THAT UP.
09:47:32 IN SUMMARY, ALL THE BASES OF DENIAL HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED,
09:47:38 AND ALL OF THE FOUR WAIVERS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING HAVE
09:47:40 BEEN ELIMINATED.
09:47:41 SO WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY WAIVERS.
09:47:46 WE ARE GOING TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES ON HOW WE RESPOND TO
09:47:48 SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, SPECIFICALLY
09:47:51 THOSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:47:52 >> KYLE HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
09:47:58 AS TRUETT INDICATED, EMPHASIZE THE BASIS OF DENIAL WERE
09:48:03 REALLY CENTERED AROUND THE CONCLUSION IN THE COASTAL HIGH
09:48:06 HAZARD AREA AS WELL AS FOUR DIFFERENT WAIVERS BUT THERE
09:48:09 ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAME UP DURING THE
09:48:11 HEARING THAT WANT TO ADDRESS AND MAKE CLEAR WE HAVE BEEN
09:48:15 RESPONSIVE TO.
09:48:16 FIRST, THE TOWNHOMES WERE A CONCERN INITIALLY FOCUSED ON
09:48:22 ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS, WAS INHOSPITABLE TO FAMILIES, SO
09:48:27 THE TOWNHOMES HAVE BEEN ADDED.

09:48:29 THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND TRANSIT.
09:48:30 BUT I WILL SPEAK IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT.
09:48:35 I THINK AS HAS BEEN ALLUDED TO, ORIGINALLY THERE WERE SIX
09:48:40 BUILDINGS WHICH HAD A MIXTURE OF STUDIO, ONE, TWO BEDROOM
09:48:43 APARTMENTS, NOW IT'S DOWN TO FOUR BUILDINGS THAT CONTAIN
09:48:46 THE STUDIO, ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS, AND THEN
09:48:49 A FIFTH, THEY CALL IT A BUILDING, IT'S REALLY A ROW OF
09:48:53 SIX TOWNHOMES EACH OF WHICH ARE THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
09:48:57 STEPHANIE POYNTER ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THOUGHT IT WOULD
09:49:02 BE IMPORTANT FOR A FAST GROWING PART OF THE CITY SO IT'S
09:49:06 GOING TO REARRANGE THE SITE.
09:49:08 TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION HAD SOME ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE
09:49:16 CITY, ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER ON.
09:49:18 ONE THING THEY CAME UP WAS A CONCERN ABOUT SIDEWALK
09:49:21 SAFETY IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT, AND SO WHAT ZON
09:49:26 AGREED TO DO WAS ITS FUNDS, FIVE VISION ZERO, WHICH
09:49:32 SHOWED ACCORDING TO THE LARGEST DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION OF
09:49:40 VISION ZERO-ZERO, THAT'S BEEN DONE THE SHORTEST SO FAR OF
09:49:44 THE PROGRAM.
09:49:45 AND THESE WILL BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
09:49:49 REPRESENTATIVE, ZOM, WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS, IN THE
09:49:55 RIGHT PLACES AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:49:58 ONSCREEN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A COUPLE OF THOSE THAT HAVE
09:50:01 BEEN DONE TO DATE.
09:50:02 SECOND RELATED TO HART, THERE'S TWO BUS STOPS THAT ARE

09:50:06 NORTH OF INTERBAY ALONG MANHATTAN ON THE WEST SIDE AND
09:50:10 EAST SIDE.
09:50:10 AND SO THE IMPROVEMENT THAT HART HAS REQUESTED THERE THAT
09:50:15 WE SENT OUT A FEW MONTHS AGO WAS ON THE EAST SIDE OF
09:50:19 MANHATTAN, CURRENTLY THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A SHELTER, THE
09:50:27 RED BOX THERE.
09:50:29 IT'S GOING TO BE A STANDARD HART SHELTER ON THE BOTTOM OF
09:50:31 THE THREE PHOTOS.
09:50:34 THE WEST SIDE OF MANHATTAN, IT'S CURRENTLY SITTING ATOP A
09:50:39 DRAINAGE FIELD WHICH IS NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR A BUS
09:50:44 SHELTER.
09:50:46 SO HART ACTUALLY REQUESTED THAT ZON MOVE THAT SHELTER
09:50:50 AROUND THE CORNER WITH INTERBAY, AND IT WILL BE SIMILARLY
09:50:56 INCREASED.
09:51:00 FINALLY, NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT, AND SPEAKING TO FOLKS
09:51:04 AS KATE NOTED AND SCOTT AS WELL, THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY
09:51:08 MUCH PART OF THIS MEDIATION AS STATED, AND I DON'T
09:51:13 THINK WE NOTED THIS AT OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION, BUT WE
09:51:17 DO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THREE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ON
09:51:24 SCREEN AS WELL AS OTHER LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM INTERBAY
09:51:26 RESIDENTS PART OF THE RECORD.
09:51:28 WITH THAT I TURN IT OVER TO TRUETT.
09:51:33 >>TRUETT GARDNER: AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
09:51:34 QUESTIONS.
09:51:35 IN SUMMARY THE PROJECT HAS BEEN REDESIGNED, FOUND TO BE

09:51:38 CONSISTENT BY ALL REVIEW AGENCIES.
09:51:39 IT IS SUPPORTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
09:51:41 IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE MEDIATOR.
09:51:43 IT IS SUPPORTED BY MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS INCLUDING SOME
09:51:45 WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT, AND THE
09:51:49 SETTLEMENT AS PROPOSED IS SUPPORTED BY THE APPLICANT.
09:51:52 WE THINK IT IS A GREAT COMPROMISE AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK
09:51:55 FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
09:51:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:58 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
09:52:05 I HEAR NONE.
09:52:06 DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, MADAM CLERK?
09:52:11 >>THE CLERK: WE DO HAVE THREE LIVE SPEAKERS FOR THIS
09:52:16 ITEM.
09:52:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:52:18 IF THEY WOULD ACTIVATE THEIR CAMERAS AND MICROPHONES, AND
09:52:21 ONCE THEY APPEAR WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN ONE BY ONE, AND
09:52:25 THEY WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:52:30 >>CLERK: JUST TO CLARIFY YOU WANT TO BRING THEM OVER ONE
09:52:33 BY ONE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING THEM ALL OVER NOW?
09:52:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST BRING THEM ALL OVER AND WE'LL
09:52:39 SWEAR THEM ALL IN AT ONE TIME AND THEN I WILL JUST GO ONE
09:52:42 AT A TIME.
09:52:43 >>CLERK: ALL RIGHT.
09:52:43 >> I'M HERE.

09:52:53 DO YOU SEE ME?
09:52:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
09:53:04 >> OH.
09:53:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE JEAN.
09:53:14 >> I WAS DRESSED FOR THE OCCASION BUT I HAD TO CHANGE.
09:53:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:53:20 AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE?
09:53:25 >> ME.
09:53:28 CAROL ANN.
09:53:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAROL ANN?
09:53:38 ALL THREE PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
09:53:46 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
09:53:47 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
09:53:51 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:53:53 >> I DO.
09:53:54 >> YES.
09:53:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:53:56 JEAN, THEN STEPHANIE, THEN CAROL ANN.
09:53:59 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH.
09:54:00 JEAN, WHEN YOU ARE READY, I WILL START THE CLOCK.
09:54:03 >> I'M ALWAYS LAST.
09:54:07 REALLY?
09:54:09 OKAY. ANYWAY, GOOD EVENING.
09:54:11 AS YOU ALL POINTED OUT MY NAME IS JEAN STROMEYER, THE
09:54:16 PRESIDENT OF THE INTERBAY SOUTH OF GANDY CIVIC

09:54:18 ASSOCIATION BUT TODAY I AM JUST HERE AS A REGULAR CITIZEN
09:54:21 TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE
09:54:26 214 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX AT INTERBAY 7701.
09:54:32 HISTORICALLY, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN INDUSTRIAL AND THE
09:54:35 DEVELOPER BOUGHT IT AS INDUSTRIAL AND HAD CHANCE TO
09:54:37 CHANGE ZONING AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
09:54:40 I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER ON OCTOBER 5, 20 IS IT WHEN
09:54:43 A NEIGHBOR FOUND LAYING IN THE DIRT A YARD SIGN AND
09:54:46 NOTICED TO REZONE.
09:54:49 THE HEARING DATE FIVE DAYS LATER, THE CITY'S WEBSITE
09:54:52 SHOWS THAT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICES WERE SENT OUT BUT
09:54:54 NOBODY RECEIVED THEM.
09:54:56 I EMAILED A LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH DOCUMENTATION
09:54:58 FROM NEIGHBORS IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT.
09:55:01 THE HEARING WAS CONTINUED BUT EVENTUALLY MADE IT TO CITY
09:55:03 COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 12.
09:55:06 AND THE PROCESS WAS RIGHTFULLY DENIED.
09:55:08 VICTORY, WE THOUGHT.
09:55:10 NOT SO BAD.
09:55:11 BECAUSE IT WAS DENIED, IN ESSENCE THEY SUED YOU, THEY
09:55:17 SUED ME, AND THEY SUED OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHO DISAGREED
09:55:22 WITH THE PROJECT.
09:55:22 SO OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND THROUGH OUR TAX DOLLARS HAD TO
09:55:27 DEFEND THE LAWSUIT SUBJECTING THE CITY AND TAXPAYERS TO
09:55:29 POTENTIALLY PAYING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INVESTMENT AND GOD

09:55:33 KNOWS WHAT THEY MEDIATED, AND WE WON.
09:55:36 WHILE THE SPECIFIC MEDIATION PROCEEDINGS ARE CONFIDENTIAL
09:55:39 IN NATURE, THEY REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY
09:55:43 PLANS WHICH ARE BETTER, BUT FOR US IT'S STILL JUST
09:55:48 ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX WHICH BRINGS ME HERE TODAY WITH
09:55:51 AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY A FEW OF THE MANY
09:55:55 LESSONS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY.
09:55:57 ONE LESSON IS NO MATTER WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR OWN
09:56:01 COMMUNITY, WE CANNOT FIGHT CITY HALL, NOR CAN WE FAITH
09:56:04 THE BIG MONEY DEVELOPERS.
09:56:06 THE CARDS ARE STACKED UP AGAINST US ESPECIALLY FOR THE
09:56:10 PEOPLE SOUTH OF GANDY.
09:56:11 WE LEARNED THAT ONCE OVERBUILDING PROBLEMS COME TO CITY
09:56:17 COUNCIL IT'S ALREADY TOO LATE.
09:56:18 FOR THIS REZONING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENIED IN THE
09:56:20 BEGINNING, BASED ON THE FIRST TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
09:56:23 2040 WHICH SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT ESTABLISHED
09:56:27 NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE SHOULD BE NO INCREASE IN DENSITY.
09:56:30 THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENIED AS SOON AS THE DEVELOPER
09:56:33 PURCHASED AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY WITH IN A PLAN FOR
09:56:36 INDUSTRY AND INSTABILITIES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:56:42 BUT IT WAS NOT DENIED.
09:56:43 IT WAS APPROVED ALONG WITH A MULTITUDE OF OTHER REZONING
09:56:46 APPROVALS.
09:56:46 THEN THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO APPROVE THAT RAPID RATE.

09:56:50 AND ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THESE DEVELOPERS ARE USING
09:56:54 AGAINST US IS, WELL, THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED SO WHY
09:56:58 SHOULDN'T OURS BE APPROVED?
09:57:00 OUR WISHES, NEEDS AND THE WAY OUR QUALITY OF LIFE WILL BE
09:57:02 IMPACTED WAS DENIED.
09:57:04 SO DON'T WORRY, MR. DEVELOPER AND YOU ALL.
09:57:08 THE CITY WILL APPROVE WHATEVER YOU WANT.
09:57:10 AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE FINAL LESSON THAT I LEARNED
09:57:12 WHICH IS THAT OUR CONCERNS, AND WE THE PEOPLE SOUTH OF
09:57:16 GANDY ARE HEREBY DENIED.
09:57:18 THANK YOU.
09:57:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:20 NEXT SPEAKER IS BETHANY POYNTER.
09:57:23 >> GOOD EVENING.
09:57:26 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN, AND
09:57:33 I WANT TO SAY THAT-- [~INTERFERENCE~]
09:57:46 I CAN WALK TO THIS PROJECT IN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES. I
09:57:47 DON'T SUPPORT IT.
09:57:48 I AM NOT IN LOVE WITH IT.
09:57:49 BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
09:57:51 BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUND OUT, AND MORE SO THAN ANYTHING THAT
09:57:54 I SAY THAT I DON'T OBJECT TO IT ANY LONGER SIMPLY BECAUSE
09:57:59 DOING SO IS FRUITLESS.
09:58:03 I WROTE A NICE LETTER, AND BOTTOM LINE IS, ZOM -- BENT
09:58:12 OVER BACKWARDS TO MAKE A LOT OF ACCOMMODATION AND A LOT

09:58:15 OF WORK TO MAKE CHANGES TO MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE.
09:58:18 I AM GOING TO DEAL WITH IT EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THE
09:58:21 REMAINDER OF TIME THAT I LIVE IN SOG, AND I PLAN ON THAT
09:58:25 PROBABLY BEING THE REST OF MY LIFE.
09:58:27 SO THIS IS JUST A BIGGER PLATE OF LIVER AND KETCHUP FOR
09:58:35 ME BUT IT'S STILL A PLATE OF LIVER.
09:58:40 I'M KIND OF DISORIENTED, OR I WANT TO THANK CATE WELLS
09:58:49 FOR USING MY NAME A HUNDRED TIMES IN HER STATEMENT, AND,
09:58:53 YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T LOVE IT, BUT I MEAN WHAT
09:58:56 AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY?
09:58:58 NOW WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMP PLAN.
09:59:00 NOW WE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.
09:59:04 AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SHOWING US THE
09:59:07 WAY AND LEADING US TO THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT AS WELL AS
09:59:12 THE LAWYERS FOR THE CITY.
09:59:13 BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T STAND UP HERE AND IN GOOD
09:59:17 CONSCIENCE GO, WHOA, WE CAN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE I HAVE TO
09:59:21 LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU GUYS.
09:59:26 I MEAN, I AM GOING TO SEE THESE GUYS EVERY SINGLE
09:59:29 MORNING.
09:59:29 AND EVERY SINGLE MORNING FOR THE ENTIRE TIME I OWN MY
09:59:33 HOUSE.
09:59:34 AND I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS.
09:59:37 I APPRECIATE THE ACCOMMODATIONS THEY MADE, BUT MUCH MORE
09:59:41 PALATABLE THAN IT WAS TO START WITH, AND I BELIEVE THAT

09:59:44 MR. CLAYTON AND THE OTHER LEADERSHIP AT ZOM MOVED FORWARD
09:59:52 TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE
09:59:55 TO US, AND I HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
09:59:58 AND I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING.
10:00:04 THANK YOU.
10:00:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:00:11 ELAINE BENNETT, YOU ARE NEXT.
10:00:12 >> I HAVE TWO REQUESTS.
10:00:14 ONE IS THE ABILITY TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
10:00:17 AND TWO --
10:00:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
10:00:23 GO AHEAD.
10:00:23 >> THE ABILITY TO SHARE MY SCREEN?
10:00:26 I DON'T SEE IT.
10:00:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:00:30 CLERK, IF WE COULD.
10:00:32 >> OKAY, I SEE.
10:00:34 >> WE CAN IT.
10:00:37 GO AHEAD.
10:00:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY NAME IS CAROL ANN BENNETT.
10:00:39 I LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA MY ENTIRE LIFE.
10:00:42 JEAN COMPTON SAID, WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE CHOICES, TO
10:00:51 LIVE IN A CONDO OR APARTMENT OR SUBURB WITH A HOUSE AND A
10:00:54 YARD.
10:00:54 WE WANT THE GROWTH TO BE FOCUSED IN THESE CIRCLED AREAS.

10:00:59 WE WANT PROTECTION IN PLACE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:01:05 SOUTH TAMPA ISN'T IN ANY OF THESE CIRCLES.
10:01:11 I NEED TO STOP SHARING THE SCREEN NOW.
10:01:16 DOES THAT WORK?
10:01:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:01:20 >> OKAY.
10:01:21 REBECCA KERT SAID REQUIRED STRUCTURE TO BE IN PLACE
10:01:30 CONCURRENT WITH DEVELOPMENT.
10:01:31 THAT HAD A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE WAS IDENTIFIED AND
10:01:34 HAD TO BE MAINTAINED, BROUGHT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, NO
10:01:39 DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED UNTIL ADEQUATE FACILITIES WERE IN
10:01:42 PLACE.
10:01:42 IN OTHER WORDS, REQUIRED TO BUILD THIS WITHOUT IMPACT TO
10:01:49 STRUCTURE.
10:01:49 BUILDERS COULD NOT -- THEY DID, THEY JUST INCREASED THEIR
10:01:56 PROFIT.
10:01:59 BUILDERS DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE IMPACT OF THEIR
10:02:01 DEVELOPMENT.
10:02:01 IT DOESN'T MEAN THE IMPACT IS JUST MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR.
10:02:05 PEOPLE ARE LIVING HEAR ARE FORCED TO PAY THE PRICE.
10:02:09 WE AND OUR FAMILIES PAY THE PRICE, WE PAY THE PRAISE OF
10:02:14 ROADWORK THROUGH INCREASED TAXES, WE PAY THE PRICE WHEN
10:02:18 WE CAN'T EVACUATE IN AN EMERGENCY.
10:02:21 WE SUBSIDIZE THE BUILDERS COST, THE MOVING COSTS OF NEW
10:02:25 RESIDENTS.

10:02:26 THIS RESPONSIBILITY WAS DUMPED ON US EVEN THOUGH WE
10:02:29 OBJECTED AND PROTESTED AND SAID NO.
10:02:32 WE ARE IGNORED.
10:02:35 ALL OF THESE NEW RESIDENTS NEED WATER.
10:02:37 WHY AREN'T THEY PAYING FOR IT?
10:02:39 WHY SHOULD THE MAYOR, AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY
10:02:42 COUNCIL HAVE TO TEAR THEIR HAIR OUT -- WELL, MR. MIRANDA
10:02:49 ALREADY TORE HIS OUT -- BUT WHY SHOULD THEY TEAR THEIR
10:02:54 HAIR OUT EVERY YEAR -- FOR THE POLICE, AND FIREFIGHTERS,
10:02:59 AND SCHOOLS, AND ROAD AND SEWAGE THAT THE RESIDENTS NEED.
10:03:04 WHY AREN'T THE NEW RESIDENTS PAYING FOR THIS?
10:03:07 WHY AREN'T THE BUILDERS AND THEIR STACK OF MONEY PAYING
10:03:10 FOR THIS?
10:03:11 THE CITY NEEDS TO SAY NO TO SPECIAL TREATMENT AND SAY NO
10:03:13 TO THESE ZONINGS THAT PUT US IN DANGER.
10:03:20 THEY HAD TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON NEW DEVELOPMENT.
10:03:22 IF THEY INCREASED DENSITY IS GOING TO INCREASE OUR
10:03:25 EVACUATION TIME AND OUR TRAFFIC AND PUT MORE BURDEN ON
10:03:29 THE CURRENT RESIDENTS TO PAY FOR WATER AND
10:03:31 INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN YOU MUST DENY THE REZONING REQUEST.
10:03:36 STOP TREATING THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH TAMPA, THE YOUNG
10:03:39 COUPLES TRYING TO GET A START, THE FAMILIES WHO ARE JUST
10:03:41 TRYING TO GET BY, THAT HAVE NO WAY TO PAY FOR THEIR
10:03:46 INCREASED INSURANCE AND ASSESSMENTS ON THEIR UTILITY
10:03:48 BILL.

10:03:49 MAKE THE BUILDERS AND THE NEW RESIDENTS PAY FOR THEIR
10:03:52 IMPACT AND STOP ENDANGERING US WHEN NO ONE KNOWS HOW LONG
10:04:00 IT WILL TAKE TO EVACUATE US.
10:04:02 THE CITY'S GOOD INTENTIONS BEST FOR ALL OF US --
10:04:08 ALL THESE BUILDERS HAVE TO DO IS THREATEN TO SUE AND WHEN
10:04:11 THEY GET TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT WHEREVER THEY WANT
10:04:14 TO, EVEN IF THEY BOUGHT PROPERTY KNOWING IT'S NOT GOOD
10:04:19 FOR IT.
10:04:20 THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY IS BEING DIRECTED BY ONE THING
10:04:23 AND ONE THING ONLY, WHATEVER WILL PUT THE BIGGEST PROFIT
10:04:26 IN BUILDERS' POCKETS.
10:04:27 THEY WILL STEER THIS SHIP RIGHT OVER THE ROCKS AND THEN
10:04:30 THEY WILL HOP OFF WITH A POCKET FULL OF GREEN, SHOULD NOT
10:04:37 BE THE MANAGER OF OUR BOOKS.
10:04:38 YOU SHOULD BE THE MANAGERS OF OUR GROWTH.
10:04:41 PLEASE DENY THIS REZONING.
10:04:42 THANK YOU.
10:04:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:46 IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, MADAM CLERK?
10:04:51 ANYONE?
10:04:52 >> THERE IS NO MORE LIVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM AND
10:04:59 THERE'S NO ONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
10:05:02 AND JUST FOR THE RECORD WE DID RECEIVE DOCUMENTS AND IT
10:05:09 IS UPLOADED ON SIRE.
10:05:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:05:12 ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU HAVE HEARD THE PUBLIC
10:05:14 COMMENT.
10:05:14 YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT.
10:05:17 IS THERE ANY REBUTTAL, MR. GARDNER, ANYTHING THAT YOU
10:05:21 WISH TO ADD? ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:05:26 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ASK A QUESTION REAL FAST?
10:05:29 MR. GARDNER, PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
10:05:32 TELL ME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
10:05:34 BUT COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, IF NONE
10:05:38 OF THIS WAS APPROVED, WHAT IS THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY
10:05:41 ENTITLED TO, TO HAVE ON IT?
10:05:45 WHAT COULD YOU DO THERE?
10:05:50 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
10:05:51 THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
10:05:55 THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY IS CU 24, WHICH IS A
10:05:59 CATEGORY FOR BOTH TRANSITIONAL CATEGORY FOR EITHER
10:06:02 RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
10:06:06 WITH RESPECT TO THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION, THE ENTITLEMENT
10:06:10 AS A MATTER OF RIGHT FOR A WAREHOUSING, INDUSTRIAL TYPE
10:06:14 USE, WOULD BE IN QUESTIONS OF 600,000 SQUARE FEET, AND AT
10:06:19 OUR PRIOR HEARING WHICH YOU HAVE IN OUR SLIDE DECK IF YOU
10:06:22 ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING IT, WE RAN JUST BASED ON I.T.
10:06:25 CALCULATIONS SINCE TRAFFIC SEEMED TO BE A LARGE ISSUE
10:06:28 HERE OF WHAT THE APARTMENTS, HOW IT STACKED UP TO EITHER
10:06:33 WAREHOUSE AND OUR INDUSTRIAL TYPE USE, AND THE PM AND AM

10:06:39 PEAK HOUR TRIPS FOR WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS HAND DOWN BY
10:06:42 FAR THE SMALLEST COMPARED TO THOSE OTHER USES THAT ARE
10:06:45 ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
10:06:46 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:06:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:51 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:06:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT,
10:07:02 ATTORNEYS, THE PUBLIC, ET CETERA.
10:07:03 THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY VOTED DOWN,
10:07:06 OBVIOUSLY, BY CITY COUNCIL, MYSELF, ET CETERA.
10:07:11 THERE'S A NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TO BE
10:07:14 MADE BY THE DEVELOPER WHICH ARE A STEP FORWARD.
10:07:18 I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOR A LOT IN THE
10:07:21 COMMUNITY.
10:07:21 I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
10:07:23 FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, AS EXPLAINED, THE WAY THAT I
10:07:27 SEE IT, IT KIND OF KNOCKS OFF THE LEGS FROM THE STOOL AND
10:07:34 WE USED TO DENY THIS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.
10:07:37 I THINK WE ARE AT THIS POINT, MY FRIEND STEPHANIE
10:07:41 POYNTER -- AND STEPHANIE IS MY FRIEND, I KNOW HER HUSBAND
10:07:45 WHO IS A WONDERFUL GENTLEMAN -- I THINK SHE MADE -- IF
10:07:50 YOU LAUGH, THAT'S FINE.
10:07:52 SHE MADE A VERY, VERY GOOD POINT, WHICH IS THE COMP PLAN.
10:07:56 AND I REMEMBER STEPHANIE HAD COME BEFORE TAMPA CITY
10:07:59 COUNCIL A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

10:08:00 YOU REMEMBER WE TRIED TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A VERY LOUD
10:08:07 ADVENTUROUS MEETING THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
10:08:10 THE BOTTOM LINE, THE WAY THAT I EXPLAIN IT IS WE ARE
10:08:13 PLAYING WITH THE CARDS THAT WE HAVE, AND THE CARDS THAT
10:08:16 WE HAVE ARE DEALT FROM THE COMP PLAN.
10:08:18 AND TO CHANGE THE RESULT FROM MORE EQUITY TO THE
10:08:23 COMMUNITY WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT, AND
10:08:26 THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE VOTE THAT WE ORIGINALLY DID, THAT
10:08:29 THERE'S GOT TO BE IN MY OPINION OBVIOUSLY A CHANGE IN
10:08:32 THAT REGARD.
10:08:33 YOU CHANGE THE COMP PLAN, AND YOU CAN HAVE IN THE FUTURE
10:08:36 DIFFERENT RESULTS, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I
10:08:38 KNOW ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS INCLUDING COUNCILMAN CARLSON WHO
10:08:41 REPRESENTS THE AREA SO DILIGENTLY, ARE WORKING ON.
10:08:44 BUT THOSE ARE THE RULES THAT WE HAVE.
10:08:47 SOUTH OF GANDY IS AN AREA THAT'S SUFFERING FROM A LOT OF
10:08:50 DEVELOPMENT.
10:08:52 I WILL USE THE SAYING THAT I USE FOR NEW TAMPA ON THE
10:08:54 OTHER SIDE OF TAMPA, WHICH IS THAT SOUTH OF GANDY IS,
10:08:59 WHAT IS IT, A SIZE 38 WAIST IN SIZE 36 PANTS AND EVERY
10:09:02 DAY THEY ARE EATING AT McDONALD'S.
10:09:05 IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S GROWING, IT'S GROWING, IT'S GROWING.
10:09:08 AND THAT PRESENTS A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
10:09:12 I THINK IN LIGHT OF THE RULES THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, AND
10:09:17 AGAIN AS I SAID, THE LEGS OF THE STOOL, I THINK THAT

10:09:21 THERE IS A PATH THAT I SEE, I WANT TO HEAR FROM OTHER
10:09:25 FOLKS, ET CETERA, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE PATH.
10:09:28 I HATE TO USE THE WORD RESPONSIBLE, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST
10:09:31 RESPECTFULLY THAT RESPONSIBLE PATH TO GO FORWARD.
10:09:36 WE KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN FROM HERE.
10:09:38 YOU KNOW, MEDIATION, WHICH WAS TAKEN FORWARD ON THIS
10:09:43 CASE, IS TO BE ESSENTIALLY THAT LAST CHANCE POWER DRIVE,
10:09:47 SO TO SPEAK, BEFORE YOU START GOING TO TRIAL, AND YOU
10:09:50 KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO MEDIATION, YOU GET A CHANCE TO
10:09:53 COMPROMISE, AND OFTEN BOTH PARTIES, ALMOST ALWAYS -- AND
10:09:58 I'M AN ATTORNEY -- BOTH PARTIES NEED MEDIATION SLIGHTLY
10:10:03 UNHAPPY, I SHOULD SAY, AND THE DISPUTE IN BOTH PARTIES
10:10:08 GIVE UP SOMETHING.
10:10:10 BUT ULTIMATELY, IN A CASE LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
10:10:14 ARE GOING TO GET AT MEDIATION.
10:10:16 YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET WITH A SETTLED
10:10:19 COMPROMISE.
10:10:19 YOU TAKE THIS TO COURT, AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- I
10:10:21 DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A JURY TRIAL OR NONJURY
10:10:25 TRIAL, BUT IF IT IS A JURY TRIAL YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
10:10:28 SIX PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FEDERAL CASE OR STATE
10:10:37 CASE BUT THE METHOD BY WHICH TO A DRIVER'S LICENSE, AND
10:10:42 100% OF YOUR SKIES IS GOING TO BE IN THEIR HANDS.
10:10:45 THAT TO ME IS LIKE LAS VEGAS.
10:10:47 SO THE BENEFIT OF A SETTLED COMPROMISE DURING MEDIATION

10:10:52 IS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET.
10:10:53 AND WE SEE THAT HERE.
10:10:55 SO JUST SOME THOUGHTS I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT FOR
10:10:58 DISCUSSION, IF I MAY, THE WAY I AM SEEING THINGS THAT I
10:11:01 AM INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:11:04 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:11:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:06 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:11:09 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES?
10:11:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN A BALLGAME, THE RELIEF PITCHER IS
10:11:23 WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE.
10:11:26 THREW A STRIKE.
10:11:29 THE MAGISTRATE HAS THROWN A STRIKE, AND COUNCILMAN VIERA
10:11:44 IS RIGHT.
10:11:46 IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE FIELD I HAVE TO CHANGE THE
10:11:50 RULES.
10:11:51 SO I ALWAYS LOOK FOR ANSWERS.
10:11:53 DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN'T DO, WHAT YOU CAN DO.
10:11:56 AND AT THIS POINT, IT'S WHAT THEY COULD DO.
10:12:06 THEY MADE SOME CHANGES.
10:12:08 NOTHING IS PERFECT.
10:12:09 BUT THEY DID TRY TO MAKE A VALIANT EFFORT TO MAKE
10:12:13 CHANGES.
10:12:15 I UNDERSTAND THE SOUTH GANDY AREA.
10:12:18 ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.

10:12:21 I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA.
10:12:23 A LOT, A LOT OF GROWTH THERE.
10:12:27 I WAS A RESOURCE OFFICER SO I COULD SEE THE GROWTH AND
10:12:30 IMPACT.
10:12:31 BUT I WILL TELL THE LADIES THAT YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE
10:12:37 GAME TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE RULES.
10:12:39 SO I WILL LISTEN TO OTHER COUNCILMEN BUT RIGHT NOW I
10:12:43 THINK THE CARDS HAVE BEEN DEALT, AND ALWAYS DEALT THE
10:12:49 HAND THAT WE MAY HAVE TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT.
10:12:52 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:12:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:12:54 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
10:12:59 I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. GARDNER IS CALLING AND THE
10:13:04 DEVELOPER.
10:13:04 THEY OBVIOUSLY GOT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TRIED TO DEAL
10:13:08 WITH THIS.
10:13:09 THIS IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM THAT CITY IS DEALING WITH.
10:13:12 THERE ARE ENTITLEMENTS TO PROPERTIES, BUT YET WHEN PEOPLE
10:13:17 BUY THE PROPERTIES THEY THINK THAT THERE'S AN ENTITLEMENT
10:13:20 TO CHANGE THE ENTITLEMENTS, AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T ALWAYS
10:13:22 WANT THAT.
10:13:23 AND WE CANNOT -- WE ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC
10:13:27 AND DEFEND THE PUBLIC AND THE PUBLIC INTEREST, AND IF THE
10:13:33 CITY WENT THROUGH A LAWSUIT YEARS AGO AND LOST, I THINK,
10:13:36 $4 MILLION, IN BUSINESS, IF SOMEBODY SUES YOU, YOU FIGHT

10:13:42 BACK AND YOU FIGHT UNTIL YOU WIN.
10:13:43 AND IT MAY COST THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY TO FIGHT
10:13:46 LITIGATION ON THESE CASES, BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO
10:13:49 STAND UP FOR THE RIGHTS OF ON YOUR PEOPLE AND OUR
10:13:51 COMMUNITY, AND CANNOT SET THE EXPECTATION THAT IF THERE
10:13:55 IS AN ENTITLEMENT, CHANGE THE ENTITLEMENTS.
10:13:57 THE REASON THE BARRIERS ARE THERE SO WE CAN WEIGH ALL THE
10:14:02 DIFFERENT EVIDENCE AND I THINK WE HAVE TO STAND UP FOR
10:14:04 THE INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:14:05 THANK YOU.
10:14:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:09 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:14:16 GO AHEAD.
10:14:16 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I THINK WHEN WE
10:14:20 ARE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE RULES, CORRECT ME IF I AM
10:14:25 WRONG, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CASE, A
10:14:27 WORKSHOP ON OCTOBER 22ND ON SOUTH OF GANDY?
10:14:32 AM I RIGHT?
10:14:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A BIG VARIETY OF STUFF.
10:14:39 I'LL TELL YOU.
10:14:43 >>CATE WELLS: IF I CAN RESPOND TO.
10:14:45 THAT ON OCTOBER 22ND, THERE ARE GOING TO BE WORKSHOPS
10:14:49 WITH REGARD ABOUT WANTING TO CHANGE THE RULES OF THE
10:14:55 GAME, THAT IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION, AND THAT IS THE
10:14:59 PURPOSE FOR DISCUSSION IN OCTOBER.

10:15:01 BUT TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT IS UPON COUNCIL'S DESIRE
10:15:06 TO CHANGE THE RECALLS OF THE GAME IN RESPONSE TO THE
10:15:09 PUBLIC'S REQUEST WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.
10:15:12 >>LUIS VIERA: SO IS YOUR LEGAL ADVICE TONIGHT TO NOT
10:15:18 HATE THE PLAYER BUT HATE THE GAME?
10:15:22 I'M JOKING.
10:15:23 SORRY.
10:15:23 >>CATE WELLS: CURRENTLY AS ADOPTED AS NOT AS YOU WISH IT
10:15:32 TO READ.
10:15:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON ALL
10:15:42 SIDES.
10:15:43 YOU HAVE DONE THE BEST YOU CAN.
10:15:44 I THINK YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE
10:15:48 INCLUDED PEOPLE THAT ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED OR NEARBY OR
10:15:51 HAVE AN VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT THE
10:15:54 DEVELOPMENT IS RIGHT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:15:58 BUT MR. GARDNER MENTIONED, FOUND CONSISTENT OVER AND
10:16:06 OVER.
10:16:06 IT'S NOT THE CODE.
10:16:07 YOU HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS
10:16:10 IS BEING DONE RIGHT, AND THEY ARE BEING RESPECTFUL OF THE
10:16:14 PEOPLE.
10:16:16 WE CANNOT ALL AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE TAKEN THE
10:16:19 EXTRA MEASURES AND THE EXTRA STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS
10:16:24 IS A GOOD PROJECT, AND THAT IT'S DONE PROPERLY.

10:16:27 IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL
10:16:30 MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:16:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE DO THAT, MAY WE PLEASE HEAR
10:16:35 FROM MR. GARDNER IF THERE'S ANY CLOSING COMMENTS HE WANTS
10:16:38 TO MAKE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
10:16:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GARDNER, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU
10:16:42 WOULD LIKE TO BE SAY?
10:16:46 >>TRUETT GARDNER: YES, ACTUALLY, TYLER IS GOING TO GO
10:16:48 FIRST AND ADDRESS MRS. BENNETT.
10:16:50 AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE WITH ADDRESSING MRS.
10:16:53 BROMEYER AND MS. POYNTER AS WELL.
10:16:59 >> I THINK YOU HAVE HEARD A WHOLE LOT OF WHAT I INTENDED
10:17:10 AND IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO CHANGE THE LAW.
10:17:21 BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A TOOL THAT'S AN ELEMENT
10:17:26 THAT IS CHANGEABLE, FOR SOME PLAN AMENDMENTS TODAY, AND I
10:17:30 THINK ON THE 22ND THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT TONIGHT HEAR
10:17:34 FROM THE PUBLIC WHERE THE DIRECTION SHOULD GO AND HOW TO
10:17:38 INCENTIVIZE OR DISINCENTIVIZE THE DECISION.
10:17:41 THE DECISION IS A DECISION FOR THE FUTURE.
10:17:46 I SUBMIT THAT WE CARRIED OUR BURDENS FOR TODAY.
10:17:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GARDNER.
10:17:52 >>TRUETT GARDNER: AND NOT TO LUMP THEM TOGETHER BUT
10:17:57 THERE'S SOME COMMONALITY THERE.
10:17:59 ONE, WE TRULY APPRECIATE THEM PARTICIPATING IN THE
10:18:01 PROCESS.

10:18:02 I HOPE THEY FEEL LIKE WE DID IN GOOD FAITH AND WE FELT
10:18:06 LIKE THEY DID AS WELL.
10:18:07 AND I APPRECIATE STEPHANIE'S COMMENTS.
10:18:09 WE WORKED WITH HER CONTINUOUSLY.
10:18:11 AND REALLY APPRECIATE HER COMMENTS.
10:18:13 I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY FOR HER TO SAY ABOUT GOING THE EXTRA
10:18:18 MILE AND MAKING EXCHANGES TO MAKE THIS MORE PALATABLE TO
10:18:21 HER.
10:18:21 AND TO THE I.T. ZONING CATEGORY THAT COMES WITH IT, THERE
10:18:29 ARE SOME USES TO THE INDUSTRIAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT
10:18:33 TRAFFIC WOULD GENERATE, BUT ALSO OUTDOOR STORAGE, THOSE
10:18:37 TYPE OF THINGS THAT I JUST DON'T THINK ARE FITTING FOR
10:18:39 THIS, AND THAT WHAT WE PROPOSED IS A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION
10:18:43 FOR THIS PROPERTY GIVEN ITS CURRENT ZONING AND ITS
10:18:47 CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
10:18:49 AND THEN FINALLY, THE COMPROMISE IS WHEN NOBODY LEAVES
10:18:52 THE TABLE HAPPY, AND AS YOU HEARD FROM MR. BROMEYER, THEY
10:19:02 ARE NOT ENTIRELY HAPPY.
10:19:03 THEY WERE MORE THAN WILLING TO MAKE COMPROMISES.
10:19:05 THIS HAS COME AT A TREMENDOUS EXPENSE TO THEM SO THEY ARE
10:19:08 NOT ENTIRELY HAPPY EITHER.
10:19:09 BUT I THINK WE HAVE ARRIVED AT A MUCH BETTER PROJECT THAT
10:19:13 REMOVES ALL THE WAIVERS, IS SUPPORTED BY STAFF, AND WE
10:19:17 WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, AND THANK YOU.
10:19:20 AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS UP.

10:19:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:25 IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO CLOSE
10:19:28 THIS HEARING.
10:19:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
10:19:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:19:33 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:19:34 ANY OBJECTION?
10:19:37 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENTED, THIS HEARING IS NOW
10:19:41 CLOSED.
10:19:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:19:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:19:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO TAKE
10:19:51 ON THE ISSUE OF THE COUNCIL'S POSITION WITH REGARD TO THE
10:19:54 RECOMMENDED ORDER OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
10:19:57 I BELIEVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED YOU A SAMPLE
10:20:01 MOTION OF YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT.
10:20:03 HOPEFULLY, ONE OF YOU HAS THOSE AND WOULD BE WILLING TO
10:20:07 MAKE A MOTION RELATIVE TO THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
10:20:13 YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE YOU TAKE THE ISSUE OF THE
10:20:16 ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA.
10:20:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AT
10:20:22 THIS TIME?
10:20:22 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED
10:20:29 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT?
10:20:30 WOULD THAT THE PROPER LINGO?

10:20:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S THE START OF IT.
10:20:37 >>CATE WELLS: THE OPTIONS OF CITY COUNCIL ARE ACCEPT THE
10:20:42 SETTLEMENT, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR
10:20:47 COUNCIL APPROVED SETTLEMENT.
10:20:49 THE OTHER OPTION IS TO DENY IT.
10:20:51 THIRD OPTION IS TO MODIFY IT.
10:20:53 HOWEVER, WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO THE MODIFICATION.
10:20:57 SO THE FIRST ITEM FOR BUSINESS FOR COUNCIL'S BUSINESS
10:20:59 THIS EVENING IS TO TAKE ACTION ON THE SPECIAL
10:21:04 MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION.
10:21:06 IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE RECOMMENDATION, THEN PLACE
10:21:10 THE REZONING FOR FIRST READING.
10:21:14 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL START BY A MOTION FOR APPROVAL THE
10:21:21 MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
10:21:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:21:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:21:27 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:21:30 CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE?
10:21:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:21:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:21:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:21:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:21:42 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:21:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
10:21:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:21:52 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND CITRO VOTING
10:21:54 NO.
10:21:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:57 WE NOW HAVE THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED.
10:22:03 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT?
10:22:05 I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NO VOTES.
10:22:07 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE
10:22:11 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE?
10:22:13 >>CHAIRMAN: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
10:22:14 I MOVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
10:22:16 READING -- AND THIS IS 23, FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
10:22:22 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:22:25 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
10:22:29 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:22:31 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD
10:22:34 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING
10:22:36 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:22:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SECOND THAT, AND RESOLUTION REZ
10:22:46 19-69.
10:22:48 NUMBER 23.
10:22:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:22:50 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:22:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:22:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:22:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:23:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:23:01 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:23:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
10:23:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:23:11 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND CITRO VOTING
10:23:14 NO.
10:23:14 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22ND
10:23:18 AT 5:01 P.M.
10:23:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:23 THAT'S IT.
10:23:24 THAT'S THE WHOLE AGENDA.
10:23:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:29 QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, WE CAN LOG OFF AT THIS TIME.
10:23:32 THAT CONCLUDE NUMBER 23.
10:23:33 WE'LL NOW GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS BY
10:23:36 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:23:37 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
10:23:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ONE, SIR.
10:23:41 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A RESOLUTION
10:23:44 COMMENDATION CELEBRATING THE 25th ANNIVERSARY OF THE
10:23:46 FLORIDA AQUARIUM TO BE REPRESENTED AT THEIR BOARD MEETING
10:23:50 ON NOVEMBER 12, 2020.
10:23:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:23:55 ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TOTALS MOTION?
10:23:58 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT OBJECTION,

10:24:01 THE MOTION PASSES.
10:24:02 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
10:24:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.
10:24:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU HAVE
10:24:07 ANYTHING ELSE TONIGHT?
10:24:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: VERY QUICKLY, MR. CHAIR.
10:24:12 THE CITY, THE COMMUNITY, AND TO PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE
10:24:19 ENVIRONMENT, WE LOST A DEAR FRIEND, MR. TED BAILEY.
10:24:22 I HEARD HIM SAY MANY, MANY TIMES THAT THERE IS MUCH WORK
10:24:25 TO BE DONE.
10:24:29 YOU WILL BE MISSED.
10:24:30 AND WITHOUT YOU THERE IS MUCH, MUCH MORE WORK TO BE DONE.
10:24:34 AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN CARRY ON.
10:24:48 [NO ENCODER]
10:24:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIGHTING AND BEING A CHAMPION.
10:25:11 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
10:25:14 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO ADD TO THAT, PLEASE REMEMBER IN
10:25:18 KENT'S HONOR AND -- THAT BOTH OF THEM BOUGHT THE --
10:25:23 TOILET-TO-TAP PROGRAM AND KENT EVEN -- THE LAST TIME I
10:25:30 SAW HIM HE WAS STILL READY TO FIGHT IT.
10:25:32 AS YOU HEAR THAT COMING UP, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THEY BE
10:25:36 FOUGHT IN THEIR LAST MONTHS AND MOMENTS TO FIGHT THAT
10:25:38 PROGRAM AS WELL AS MANY OTHER IMPORTANT PROJECTS.
10:25:41 AND THERE ARE MANY OTHERS BEHIND THAT WILL COME AND FIGHT

10:25:44 AS WELL.
10:25:44 BUT THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:25:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS I REMEMBER I THINK HE WAS AT A
10:25:52 BUDGET MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO?
10:25:53 OR I AM THINKING OF SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:25:55 I HEARD HIS VOICE NOT THAT LONG AGO.
10:25:58 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
10:26:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT
10:26:04 OF MY MOUTH.
10:26:06 KENT WAS A GREAT GUY.
10:26:07 I MET HIM 25 YEARS AGO.
10:26:09 I WAS ON THE AUDUBON BOARD, SIERRA BOARD, AND HE'S A
10:26:14 SUPER GUY, BUT HE CALLED INTO US A COUPLE WEEKS AGO IN
10:26:19 OUR BUDGET HEARING, AND HAD SOME ISSUES TO RAISE.
10:26:23 ANYWAY, HE WILL BE MISSED GREATLY.
10:26:25 AND LIKE BILL SAID, MANY OTHERS WILL CARRY ON.
10:26:30 THANK YOU.
10:26:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:33 COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, SIR?
10:26:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A COUPLE.
10:26:37 I WILL MAKE THEM BRIEF.
10:26:39 A MOTION TO MOVE THE ATU COMMENDATIONS BE BROUGHT BACK IN
10:26:43 ACCORD WITH MOTIONS OF THE CITY STAFF COMMENDATIONS.
10:26:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:26:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:26:58 ANY OBJECTION?
10:26:59 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, IS THERE ANY
10:27:01 OBJECTION?
10:27:03 THE MOTION PASSES.
10:27:05 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
10:27:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM LOOKING AT SOME OF THE
10:27:14 PROGRAMMINGS AS RELATED TO OPPORTUNITY PROGRAMS, CHAPTER
10:27:17 26.5.
10:27:20 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A WORKSHOP ON JANUARY
10:27:23 28, 2021, FOR ADMINISTRATION TO PREPARE A COMPLETE
10:27:27 COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION THAT RELATES TO THE PROGRAM
10:27:32 CHAPTER 26.5, WHICH INCLUDES PURCHASING SLASH
10:27:36 PROCUREMENT, AND SERVICES AND WANT TO KNOW WHO, WHEN,
10:27:45 WHAT, HOW, AND WHO RECEIVES IT AND PROVIDES COMPLETE
10:27:51 DOCUMENTATION AS THE END RESULT.
10:27:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:27:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:27:59 ANY OBJECTION?
10:28:00 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, AND WITHOUT ANY
10:28:05 OBJECTION, THE MOTION PASSES.
10:28:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THIS IS MY LAST MOTION.
10:28:11 I WOULD LIKE SUPPORT ON THIS.
10:28:13 IN RESPECT TO ADMINISTRATION, THE PILOT PROGRAM WITHIN
10:28:22 THE CITY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE-EQUITY IN
10:28:27 MUCH THIS PROGRAM.

10:28:28 UNDER CITY CHARTER 5.01-C, HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE CITY
10:28:34 AUDITOR PERFORM AN AUDIT FOR THE CITY.
10:28:35 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY AUDITOR
10:28:38 CONDUCT AN AUDIT FOR THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM IN ITS
10:28:41 ENTIRETY TO PROVIDE EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING DONE, WHAT IS
10:28:45 NOT BEING DONE, AND PROVIDE THE COMPLETE RESULT ON
10:28:51 JANUARY 28, 2021 BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AT A WORKSHOP.
10:28:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
10:28:58 >> SECOND.
10:28:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:29:00 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
10:29:03 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.
10:29:06 IS THAT IT, SIR?
10:29:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
10:29:09 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
10:29:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS ONE MORE ITEM IF YOU DON'T
10:29:14 MIND PLEASE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE CLERK AND THE
10:29:17 PURPOSES OF THE RECORD.
10:29:18 MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOUR EXECUTIVE AIDE FAILED WITH THE
10:29:20 CLERK YOUR CONFLICT FORM THAT TACK PLACE ON SEPTEMBER
10:29:24 10th.
10:29:24 I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST TO BE RECEIVED
10:29:27 AND FILED TAINT.
10:29:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR THE CLERK, SO MOVED.
10:29:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:29:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, JUST ONE QUICK.
10:29:49 ON OCTOBER 27, I WAS GOING TO BE DOING AN EVENT AT
10:29:54 CROSSOVER CHURCH ON FOWLER FOR MENTAL ASSISTANCE AND AID
10:30:01 FOR RESIDENTS.
10:30:04 COUNCILMAN GUDES IS GOING TO BE THERE AND KIM OVERMAN IS
10:30:07 GOING TO BE THERE AS WELL BUT CROSSOVER CHURCH, I WILL
10:30:10 EXPLAIN THIS MOTION.
10:30:12 IT'S THE CHURCH LIKE A LOT OF CHURCHES DURING COVID, I
10:30:17 ASKED THEM TO HOST THIS AND IT DAWNS ON ME THAT HOSTING
10:30:21 IS NOT FREE, SO WANTED AUTHORIZATION TO USE MY OFFICE, TO
10:30:29 HELP THEM.
10:30:29 SO I WANT TO EXPLAIN IT.
10:30:36 I MOTION FOR STAFF -- AND I ALREADY CHECKED WITH THE
10:30:39 POWERS THAT BE ON THIS -- MOTION FOR STAFF REVENUE AND
10:30:43 FINANCE TO BRING FORWARD A RESOLUTION TO MY OFFICE TO
10:30:46 GIVE $500 TO CROSSOVER CHURCH TO HELP FUND THE RENT
10:30:50 ALLEGE ASSISTANCE COMMUNITY EVENT TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER
10:30:52 27, 2020.
10:30:54 FURTHER, THIS RESOLUTION BE BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL AT THE
10:30:58 OCTOBER 15, 2020 MEETING FOR APPROVAL.
10:31:00 >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:31:04 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:31:05 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
10:31:08 HEARING NONE, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:13 WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

10:31:17 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
10:31:19 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING ELSE, SIR.
10:31:20 >> RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:31:25 >> I HAVE NOTHING TO NOTHING.
10:31:27 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:31:32 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNSEL MEMBER CITRO. ANY
10:31:35 OBJECTION?
10:31:35 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, THE MOTION
10:31:38 PASSES.
10:31:39 MR. SHELBY.
10:31:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, COUNCIL.
10:31:42 MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU SENT OUT A MEMO LATE MONDAY, AND IT WAS
10:31:48 DISCUSSING HOW WE ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD, CITY COUNCIL,
10:31:53 IF THE GOVERNOR DOES NOT EXTEND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WHICH
10:31:59 EXPIRES AT MUD NIGHT, I BELIEVE, THE FIRST OF OCTOBER OR
10:32:03 AT THE END OF THE DAY, SEPTEMBER 30th.
10:32:05 I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT MEMO BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE
10:32:10 SOMEWHAT DECEIVING.
10:32:11 THE CONCEPT OF A QUORUM IS NOT THE SAME AS THE
10:32:16 QUASI-JUDICIAL SUBJECT.
10:32:17 IT'S TOTALLY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO BASICALLY,
10:32:19 MR. CHAIRMAN, BY YOUR MOTION, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT
10:32:23 IF THERE IS NO EXECUTIVE ORDER -- AND CORRECT ME IF I AM
10:32:26 WRONG BECAUSE THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING -- IF THERE IS NO
10:32:28 EXECUTIVE ORDER EXTENSION, THEN COUNCIL BOTH THE MORNING

10:32:33 AND THE EVENING HAVE TO APPEAR AT LEAST A PHYSICAL QUORUM
10:32:38 AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
10:32:39 SO EVEN IF THE MORNING MEETING IS AUDIO ONLY, WITH FOUR
10:32:44 COUNCIL MEMBERS AT A MINIMUM STILL NEED TO BE AT THE
10:32:46 CONVENTION CENTER.
10:32:47 THE EVENING MEETINGS WILL STILL REMAIN VIDEO PER THE
10:32:52 CHAIRMAN'S SUGGESTION AND RECOMMENDATION AND THE COUNCIL
10:32:55 ACCEPTED.
10:32:56 ACCORDING TO WHAT THE CHAIRMAN STATED, IF THE ORDER IS
10:32:59 EXTENDED, THEN WE WILL CONTINUE WITH BUSINESS AS USUAL.
10:33:02 I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION SO THERE IS
10:33:04 NO CONFUSION.
10:33:05 I THINK THE GOVERNOR'S EXTENDED ORDER WILL STILL HAVE TO
10:33:11 BE AT LEAST AT THE CONVENTION CENTER A WEEK FROM TODAY AT
10:33:14 9 A.M., AT LEAST BY 9 A.M.
10:33:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN THE EVENING?
10:33:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE EVENING IT WILL HAVE TO BE AT
10:33:22 THE CONVENTION CENTER AS WELL TO HAVE A QUORUM.
10:33:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
10:33:30 IN THE CASE THAT THE GOVERNOR DOES NOT EXTEND THE
10:33:33 EXECUTIVE ORDER, THE EMERGENCY ORDER, REMEMBER, FOUR OF
10:33:36 US WILL HAVE TO BE MORNING AND NIGHT EVEN IF IT'S AUDIO
10:33:40 AND VIRTUAL, TO BE AT THE PHYSICAL QUORUM AT THE
10:33:43 CONVENTION CENTER.
10:33:44 IT IS NOT OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHEN WE HAVE A

10:33:46 REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO SOCIAL DISTANCING
10:33:50 BUT WE WILL BE THERE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, AND BE IN EACH
10:33:56 OTHER'S PRESENCE, AND WE HAVE THE ATTORNEYS AND STAFF TO
10:33:59 HELP US WITH THE MEETING AND MOVE US THROUGH, AND THAT'S
10:34:02 IT.
10:34:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND AGAIN THE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO
10:34:07 ACCESS AND PARTICIPATE JUST AS ALWAYS WHEN WE STARTED
10:34:10 GOING VIRTUAL THROUGH COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
10:34:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND BEING SHUT OUT OR NO FIRST
10:34:18 AMENDMENT RIGHTS ARE BEING AFFECTED.
10:34:21 ALL RIGHT.
10:34:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALL IN THE SUNSHINE.
10:34:25 THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:34:26 THANK YOU COUNCIL.
10:34:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE ADJOURNED.
10:34:28 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
10:34:59 (MEETING ADJOURNED.)

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