Tampa City Council
Thursday, October 1, 2020
9:00 a.m.
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09:01:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA
09:01:10 CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
09:01:17 TO BEGIN, WE GO TO COUNCILMAN CITRO WHO WILL RECOGNIZE
09:01:19 OUR INVOCATION SPEAKER FOR TODAY.
09:01:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:01:35 REVEREND BRIAN IS THE PASTOR OF MY CHURCH.
09:01:37 IT IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AFRICAN-AMERICAN BAPTIST
09:01:41 CHURCHES ON THE WEST SIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
09:01:44 AND I AM GLAD TO HEAR HIM TODAY.
09:01:47 REVEREND, MAY WE HEAR THE GOOD WORD?
09:01:48 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
09:01:50 THANK YOU ALL FOR INVITING ME.
09:01:52 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
09:01:55 LET US PRAY.
09:01:59 WE COME THIS MORNING TO SAY, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR
09:02:02 ALLOWING US TO SEE ANOTHER DAY, ALLOWING US TO SEE A
09:02:03 NEW MONTH.
09:02:08 WE PRAY RIGHT NOW FOR EACH COUNCILPERSON REPRESENTED ON
09:02:09 THIS COUNCIL, LORD.
09:02:10 WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
09:02:14 WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEIR COMINGS AND GOINGS.
09:02:17 WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM IN GOOD HEALTH,
09:02:20 GOOD STRENGTH AND KEEP THEM ENCOURAGED IN TIMES OF
09:02:23 LOADS AND STRENGTHEN THEM AND BUILD THEM UP WHERE THEY
09:02:25 MAY BE TORN DOWN.
09:02:27 BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE CONTINUE TO BIND THEM TOGETHER
09:02:31 SO THEY MAY NOT ALWAYS SEE EYE TO EYE.
09:02:34 LORD, WE LET YOU TO ALWAYS BE ON ONE ACCORD.
09:02:39 LET THEM DO THINGS DECENT AND PLEASING IN THEIR SIGHT
09:02:41 TO IMPACT THE GREAT CITY OF TAMPA.
09:02:47 WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE AND CONTINUE TO LEAD
09:02:49 THEM AND GUIDE THEM IN THE DIRECTION YOU HAVE THEM TO
09:02:49 GO.
09:02:51 WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THINGS.
09:02:54 WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US YET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO
09:03:04 COME AND MEET ON THE AFFAIRS OF THIS CITY THE IMPACTS
09:03:07 THROUGHOUT AND MATTERS OF THE CITY.
09:03:10 IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.
09:03:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.
09:03:12 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:03:13 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
09:03:15 THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR HAVING ME.
09:03:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, ENJOY YOUR DAY.
09:03:24 NEXT PURPOSE ABLE TO STAND, STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF
09:03:26 ALLEGIANCE.
09:03:28 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:37 THANK YOU.
09:03:41 ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:03:44 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:03:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:03:48 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:03:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GLAD TO BE HERE.
09:03:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I'M HERE, THANK YOU.
09:03:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:02 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
09:04:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE GO TO THE APPROVAL OF
09:04:05 THE AGENDA.
09:04:06 MR. SHELBY?
09:04:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING.
09:04:12 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY
09:04:12 COUNCIL.
09:04:16 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:04:17 OCTOBER 1, 2020.
09:04:19 THIS 9 A.M. MEETING.
09:04:22 THE VIRTUAL MEETING IS HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
09:04:27 DECLARATION AND PROVISION OF 20-69 THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER
09:04:31 EXTENDED AND AMENDED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON BY EXECUTIVE
09:04:36 ORDER 20-20-246.
09:04:39 IT IS ALSO BEING GOVERNED BY THE EMERGENCIES RULES OF
09:04:44 PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY THE TAMPA CITY
09:04:44 COUNCIL.
09:04:48 THIS IS BEING CONDUCTED BY AUDIO TELECONFERENCING ONLY
09:04:52 WITH VIDEO, REMOTE PARTICIPATION THAT IS REFERRED TO BY
09:04:59 THE STATE OF STATUTE OF FLORIDA AND CMT.
09:05:02 CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH, VIEW
09:05:06 THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV, SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 AND
09:05:09 FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT
09:05:14 TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD.
09:05:19 AND ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S FACEBOOK PAGE.
09:05:22 THERE ARE WAYS THAT THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
09:05:23 COMMUNICATE.
09:05:26 AND THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR INSTRUCTION BY VISITING
09:05:30 THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB SITE AT
09:05:35 TAMPAGOV.NET/CITY-COUNCIL.
09:05:40 THAT INCLUDES SUBMITTING THE INTERNET AND WEB, INCLUDES
09:05:44 VOICEMAIL, BY REGULAR MAIL, AND ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO
09:05:46 SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:05:51 NOW FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE CMT, A DEVICE,
09:05:56 THEY HAVE ACCESS TO ONE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE BY
09:05:58 VISITING THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER DURING THIS
09:06:03 MEETING AT 333 SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET AT THE CHANNEL
09:06:04 ENTRANCE.
09:06:08 PUBLIC COMMENTS RE-RECORDED AND LIVE AT THE START.
09:06:10 MEETING AT THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:06:14 COMMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO A SPECIFIC PUBLIC HEARING
09:06:17 ON THE AGENDA WILL BE HEARD AT THE TIME WHEN IT APPEARS
09:06:18 ON THE AGENDA.
09:06:23 THE WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL
09:06:26 AND ARE BEING MADE A PART OF THE RECORD OF THE MEETING,
09:06:27 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:06:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:06:32 WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM OF THE
09:06:32 AGENDA.
09:06:34 A COUPLE OF THINGS.
09:06:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER REQUESTED THAT ITEMS 15, 22 AND
09:06:39 23 BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
09:06:43 THE CHIEF OF STAFF REQUESTED THAT 19 -- ITEM NUMBER 19
09:06:45 BE MOVED TO STAFF REPORTS.
09:06:51 AND ITEM NUMBER 55 THAT RECEIVED A CONTINUANCE EARLY
09:06:57 THIS MORNING BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 15.
09:07:02 AND FROM MORRIS MASSEY, A WRITTEN REPORT ON ITEM 59.
09:07:08 YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE ADDENDUM.
09:07:09 ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
09:07:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
09:07:14 COUNCIL.
09:07:17 WHEN YOU ADOPT THE ADDENDUM, DOES NOT ADOPT THE ITEMS
09:07:25 FOR THE ADDENDUM ITEM 55 CANNOT BE TAKEN UP UNTIL THE
09:07:31 TIME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MISS MCLEAN WILL UPDATE
09:07:31 COUNCIL ON THAT.
09:07:35 AND IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS AND
09:07:38 SUBSTITUTIONS, THIS WILL BE THE TIME TO DO THAT.
09:07:41 AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS
09:07:46 WITH COUNCIL THE NEED FOR STAFF TO APPEAR DURING STAFF
09:07:48 REPORT OR RECEIVED AND FILED STAFF REPORT.
09:07:51 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP NOW OR AFTER
09:07:52 THE ITEM.
09:07:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE, WE WILL TAKE THAT UP.
09:07:58 DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR ANYTHING ELSE YOU SEE ON
09:07:58 THE ANSWER.
09:08:01 ANY COUNCILMEMBER NEED ANY STAFF PRESENT?
09:08:02 I KNOW MEMOS WERE SENT OUT.
09:08:06 ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THOSE, OR DO YOU NEED THEM FOR ANY
09:08:07 ITEMS?
09:08:08 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:08:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
09:08:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, GOOD MORNING.
09:08:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
09:08:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I HAVE NOTIFIED CHIEF BENNETT
09:08:22 AS WELL STAFF FOR ITEMS -- SPECIFICALLY FOR ITEM 2
09:08:25 WHICH I DID NOT PULL BECAUSE IT IS AN ORDINANCE FOR
09:08:32 FIRST READING.
09:08:36 FOR 2, 15, 22 AND 23, I WOULD LIKE STAFF PRESENT.
09:08:39 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THOSE ITEMS -- THOSE FOUR
09:08:42 ITEMS TO THE END SO WE CAN --
09:08:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FINE.
09:08:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WE CAN GET TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA
09:08:50 -- BECAUSE THOSE FOUR ITEMS WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT
09:08:52 LONGER BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
09:08:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:08:54 WE WILL DO THAT.
09:08:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 2, 15, 22 AND 23.
09:08:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL THE ITEMS PULLED THAT I
09:09:00 BROUGHT UP.
09:09:04 ITEM NUMBER 2, IF WE CAN MOVE THAT TO IT THE END OF THE
09:09:06 AGENDA SO WE CAN GET THROUGH EVERYTHING.
09:09:09 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES?
09:09:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:09:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:09:18 ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA
09:09:21 AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:09:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO APPROVE.
09:09:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:09:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:09:31 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:09:32 ANY OPPOSED?
09:09:36 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT HEARING NO OBJECTION
09:09:41 WE APPROVED THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:09:48 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY -- THIS IS COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:09:51 THE APPRENTICESHIP MISS ZELMAN WOULD SPEAK BRIEFLY.
09:09:55 I WOULDN'T CALL IT A PRESENTATION BUT SPEAK BRIEFLY.
09:09:59 I WOULDN'T CALL IT A PRESENTATION BUT SPEAK BRIEFLY.
09:10:00 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:10:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
09:10:07 ALL RIGHT, NO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES TODAY.
09:10:09 WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:10:13 MADAM CLERK, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
09:10:16 >>CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
09:10:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
09:10:22 >>CLERK: THE FIRST SPEAKER IS CHRIS VELA.
09:10:24 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:10:26 THIS IS CHRIS VELA.
09:10:30 CALLING FROM 33605 IN THE YBOR AREA.
09:10:34 I WAS ACTUALLY CALLING IN REGARDS TO ITEM 2 AS THE
09:10:36 AGENDA WAS PRESENTED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
09:10:40 AND I AM JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT DECISIONS THAT
09:10:44 WILL BE MADE ON PUSHING OR EXTENDING THE TIMELINE TO
09:10:48 EXEMPT.MULTIMOBILE IMPACT FEE.
09:10:53 I THINK WHAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW IS THE FISCAL --
09:10:57 THERE IS A -- FISCAL DAMAGES BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS TAX
09:10:58 OR NOT HAVING THIS TAX.
09:11:02 AND I WOULD URGE YOU ALL TO GO FAR BACK AND ASK CITY
09:11:06 ADMINISTRATION AND WHOEVER HANDLES THIS TO LOOK BACK IN
09:11:09 2010 TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN PASSED UP.
09:11:12 NOW IT IS TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TRANSPORTATION
09:11:17 IMPACT FEE DOES GO TOWARD SIDEWALKS AND BICYCLE AND
09:11:19 PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ON CITY-OWNED ROADS.
09:11:24 SO I URGE YOU THAT WHEN WE ARE ASSESSING THIS FEE IN
09:11:27 THE FUTURE, THAT WE DON'T JUST COUNT CARS.
09:11:30 SO WE HAVE A LARGE BUILDING, WE WILL ALSO ASSESS FEES
09:11:33 ON HOW WE CAN HAVE MORE BICYCLE ACCESS OR MORE TRANSIT
09:11:35 ACCESS.
09:11:38 A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS RIGHT NEXT TO YOU AT CITY HALL AS
09:11:41 THE HRI PROPERTY.
09:11:44 NOW ON MARION STREET, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS NO DIRECT
09:11:46 ACCESS TO THAT BUS LINE.
09:11:49 YOU CAN WALK DOWN MARION STREET AND SEE A LOT OF
09:11:52 BUILDINGS DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE BUS LINE.
09:11:55 SO I AM VERY CONCERNED WHERE THIS IS GOING.
09:11:56 SO LET'S PUT THIS ON PAUSE.
09:11:59 LET'S LOOK AT THE FISCAL ANALYSIS OF THIS.
09:12:02 AND ALSO, LET'S LOOK AT WAYS OF EAST TAMPA AND YBOR
09:12:05 CITY CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL.
09:12:08 I HAVE A FEELING THAT THESE FEES END UP GOING INTO A
09:12:12 TRUST, A GENERAL TRUST FOR ANYBODY CAN DISPERSE IT.
09:12:14 SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OF
09:12:19 THAT FUNDING SO EAST TAMPA AND YBOR CITY CAN HAVE A
09:12:22 CHOICE AS TO HOW TO MAKE THIS STREET SAFER AND ALSO TO
09:12:27 MEET SPECIFIC VISION ZERO GOALS THAT OUR MAYOR IS
09:12:27 PUSHING.
09:12:30 ALSO I WOULD ALSO BRING UP THAT THE CITY IS GIVING AWAY
09:12:32 ALLEY.
09:12:36 I UNDERSTAND WHEN DEVELOPERS WANT TO ACCUMULATE ALLEYS
09:12:39 AS PART OF REDEVELOPMENT, REZONING AND SO FORTH.
09:12:42 A BIG NEED TO REVIEW THAT BY THE CITY.
09:12:46 BUT THE CITY IS BLEEDING MONEY WITHOUT SELLING THOSE
09:12:49 ALLEYS TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THEM IN
09:12:49 THEIR NEW PROPERTY.
09:12:54 SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT CITIES GET INVOLVED.
09:12:58 NOW I SUPPORT ALLEYS AND I WANT THEM IN THE CITY BUT
09:13:01 YOU GUYS ARE GIVING THEM AWAY AND WE ARE LOSING SO MUCH
09:13:02 MONEY IN.
09:13:05 THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT
09:13:07 SURTAX, AND TWO CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS RIGHT NOW
09:13:13 THAT ARE -- HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND NOT A LOT OF LOCAL
09:13:14 MONEY.
09:13:15 PLEASE ASK IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
09:13:18 WE NEED TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FUNCTIONING AND OPEN
09:13:19 TO ALL ACCESS.
09:13:20 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:13:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:25 ALSO, NEXT SPEAKER?
09:13:29 >> YES, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. JAMES RANSOM.
09:13:39 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR LINE.
09:13:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. RANSOM?
09:13:48 >>CLERK: MR. RANSOM, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:13:50 >> IS THAT BETTER.
09:13:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
09:13:53 GO AHEAD.
09:13:53 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:13:57 AND I COMING IN -- ON MY PHONE OR ON MY COMPUTER AT
09:14:04 THIS POINT?
09:14:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HEAR YOU.
09:14:10 IS HE LOGGED IN ON THE GO TO WEBINAR.
09:14:12 >>CLERK: YES, HE IS LOGGED IN.
09:14:13 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:14:16 MY FIRST TIME CALLING IN ON THIS FORMAT.
09:14:21 MR. CHAIR COUNCILMEMBERS ON BEHALF OF BLACK AFFAIRS AND
09:14:24 TOBA AND OUR SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST SCOOP, WE WANT
09:14:29 TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK YOU -- MR. CHAIR, I DON'T
09:14:31 KNOW IF YOU TOOK MY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT I
09:14:34 WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR ORGANIZATION OF YOUR
09:14:37 RECENT UNANIMOUS SUPPORT TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION
09:14:40 RECONCILIATION RESOLUTION.
09:14:42 WE THOUGHT THAT YOUR ACTION THERE WAS CERTAINLY
09:14:47 HISTORIC IN OUR VIEW AND GOES A LONG WAY TO SET THE
09:14:50 FOUNDATION FOR ADDRESSING MANY OF THE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS
09:14:54 THAT ARE FACED BY BLACKS IN TAMPA AND AROUND THE
09:14:58 COUNTRY AS IT RELATES TO UN EMPLOYMENT AND EXCLUSION
09:15:01 AND INJUSTICE AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ALL
09:15:04 RECOGNIZE IN THE RESOLUTION AND WITH THE COMMISSION
09:15:05 THAT YOU ARE FORMING.
09:15:06 SO WANTED TO THANK YOU.
09:15:11 THANK, IN PARTICULAR -- WE WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN
09:15:14 GUDES FOR THE RELATIONSHIP ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AND
09:15:20 THANK ALSO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMEMBER
09:15:25 MANISCALCO AND ALSO BILL CARLSON AND ALL OF
09:15:28 COUNCILMEMBERS FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN REJECTING CONTRACTS
09:15:32 THAT COME TO CITY COUNCIL FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT
09:15:35 DO NOT INCLUDE SPECIFIC GOALS, ACTUAL SPENDING GOALS
09:15:38 FOR BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES AMONG OTHERS.
09:15:42 WE THINK THAT ALSO HELPS TO ADD A LAYER OF TRANSFORMING
09:15:45 HOW WE DO BUSINESS FOR EVERYONE BY RACE AND GENDER.
09:15:49 AND WE ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK THE MAYOR AND
09:15:52 HER EXECUTIVE TEAM FOR RESPONDING TO YOUR REQUEST TO
09:15:57 HAVE NO CONTRACTS COME $00,000 OR ABOVE WITHOUT
09:16:02 SPECIFICALLY INDICATING HOW MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT
09:16:05 WITH BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES AMONG OTHERS.
09:16:08 WE HAVE BEEN HERE MANY YEARS DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE
09:16:11 DURING THE ORDINANCE PROCESS AND WE ARE MEETING WITH
09:16:15 THE CITY OF TAMPA ADMINISTRATION ON POLICIES AND
09:16:18 PROCEDURES AND POLICIES TO HAVE INPUT SINCE WE HAVE
09:16:20 BEEN DOING THIS FOR 41 YEARS.
09:16:24 MY CALL ON BEHALF OF OUR ORGANIZATION TO THANK YOU FOR
09:16:26 YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SHOWING RESPECT TO THE
09:16:29 AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND BLACK PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
09:16:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:16:34 ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:16:37 >>CLERK: NO, SIR, THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC
09:16:39 COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
09:16:42 NO ONE AVAILABLE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER AND
09:16:43 THERE ARE NO RECORDINGS THIS MORNING.
09:16:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
09:16:49 ARE THERE ANY RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
09:16:52 OR A REQUEST BY THE PUBLIC.
09:16:53 HEARING NONE, I HAD TO ASK.
09:16:57 WE GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
09:17:00 WE WILL BEGIN THE AGENDA WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:17:01 AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.
09:17:07 ITEM NUMBER ONE.
09:17:13 WHO IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE?
09:17:16 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
09:17:26 THIS IS VIK BHIDE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
09:17:29 ITEM NUMBER ONE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CODE,
09:17:32 CHAPTER 15, SECTION 15.81.
09:17:38 IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS EXPANDING THE HOURS AT
09:17:44 WHICH WE CAN OPERATE AND CHARGE FOR PARKING WITHIN OUR
09:17:49 FACILITIES AND EXPANDING THEM TO 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN
09:17:50 DAYS A WEEK.
09:17:52 THE REASON WE ARE DOING THIS AND THAT WE ARE PROPOSING
09:17:57 IS -- AND YOU WILL SHARE THIS THEME WITH THE RATES AS
09:18:00 WELL, WE ARE TRYING TO BE MORE DEMAND RESPONSIVE AND A
09:18:07 LITTLE MORE NIMBLE, SO IN AREAS LIKE YBOR CITY, FOR
09:18:10 EXAMPLE, IN THE GARAGES, WE CAN CHARGE AT NIGHT AFTER
09:18:19 MIDNIGHT WHEN THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON WEEKENDS
09:18:22 AND THE TIME IN DOWNTOWN WHERE CURRENTLY IN CERTAIN
09:18:32 AREAS WE EXEMPT PARKING CHARGES AND FLEXIBILITY TO BE
09:18:44 MORE DEMAND RESPONSIVE AND IS IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING
09:18:47 FAIR AND EFFICIENT.
09:18:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I HAVE QUESTIONS FROM
09:18:50 COUNCILMEMBERS?
09:18:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
09:18:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:19:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
09:19:02 AS FOR CHANGES, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE PARKING GARAGES
09:19:04 AS WELL?
09:19:07 >> YES, SIR, THE PARKING GARAGES AS WELL.
09:19:10 PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY TO THE PARKING DIVISION TO ASSESS
09:19:15 THE BEST TIMES TO CHARGE FOR PARKING.
09:19:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY SECOND QUESTION FOR YOU.
09:19:19 WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION ON IT.
09:19:21 BUT I AM STILL CONCERNED.
09:19:26 I KNOW A LOT OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES WHO DO WORK DOWNTOWN
09:19:29 COME TO ME AND EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERN IN REFERENCE TO
09:19:32 SOME OF OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES WHO DO NOT WORK DOWNTOWN
09:19:35 WHO WORK AT OTHER FACILITIES DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT
09:19:39 ASSESSMENT TO PAY OUR PARKING GARAGES AND SO FORTH AND
09:19:39 SO ON.
09:19:42 I WONDER HAVE WE TOTALLY ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE WITH THE
09:19:44 HR OR THE ADMINISTRATION?
09:19:47 BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE FIVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO
09:19:50 IS WORKING DOWNTOWN AND THEY ARE PICKING THEIR PAY --
09:19:53 THEY PAY FOR PARKING EVERY DAY VERSUS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE
09:19:57 WHO IS NOT SUBJECT TO PAYING ANY FEES BECAUSE THEY ARE
09:20:00 IN AN OFF-SITE AREA THAT HAVE APPROPRIATE PARKING AND
09:20:03 AT ANOTHER FACILITY.
09:20:08 >> COUNCILMAN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
09:20:14 THAT IS MORE OF A BARGAINING UNIT ITEM THAN ABOUT OUR
09:20:18 ABILITY TO CHARGE DIFFERENT USER TYPES.
09:20:22 BECAUSE PER STATUTE, WE ARE WITHIN THE SAME CATEGORY
09:20:23 USERS ARE THE SAME.
09:20:28 SO NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THROUGH
09:20:30 PARKING OPERATIONS OR POLICY NECESSARILY.
09:20:34 IT WOULD BE MORE OF A BARGAINING UNIT ITEM.
09:20:40 BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO IT.
09:20:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:20:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
09:20:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:20:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:20:50 I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I THOUGHT BY LOOKING AT
09:20:54 THE TITLE OF ITEM 1, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST DEALING WITH
09:20:59 PARKING METERS OUT ON THE STREET.
09:21:03 MISS ZELMAN, CAN YOU CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I AM
09:21:06 HAVING TROUBLE PULLING UP THE FULL TEXT OF THAT
09:21:08 ORDINANCE FOR NUMBER ONE.
09:21:10 IS THAT DEALING WITH THE PARKING GARAGES?
09:21:14 BECAUSE IF IT IS, I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THAT -- DEFER
09:21:19 THIS VOTE UNTIL WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT 22, WHICH IS
09:21:24 ALSO PARKING LOTS.
09:21:28 >> SO COUNCILMAN, MY APOLOGIES.
09:21:29 YOU ARE RIGHT.
09:21:32 THIS IS ONLY FOR ON-STREET PARKING.
09:21:36 AND IT IS NOT FOR GARAGES I MISSPOKE.
09:21:42 OUR PARKING MANAGER JUST CLARIFIED FOR US.
09:21:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, I AM -- I APPRECIATE THE
09:21:45 CLARIFICATION.
09:21:50 THIS JUST RELATES TO THE ON-STREET PARKING METERS.
09:21:54 AND MR. BHIDE AND I DISCUSSED IT PREVIOUSLY AND I AM
09:21:55 OKAY WITH THIS ONE.
09:21:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT UP WITH
09:22:01 22 AND YOU WANT TO STICK TO IT NOW?
09:22:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM FINE WITH IT NOW.
09:22:06 IT SEEMS TO BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUE AS COMPARED TO
09:22:07 22.
09:22:12 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:22:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
09:22:16 FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
09:22:17 HEARING NONE.
09:22:21 WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AHEAD AND MOVE THIS ORDINANCE.
09:22:26 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION?
09:22:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:22:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAR AGO WE HAD COMMENTS FROM THE
09:22:35 DISABILITY COMMUNITY AND SOME OF OUR FRIENDS WHO NEED
09:22:37 TO PARK IN THE DISABLED SPOTS WERE CONCERNED THAT
09:22:41 PEOPLE WHO DID NOT HAVE PROPER PERMITS WERE PARKING IN
09:22:42 THEIR SPACES.
09:22:44 DOES THIS ADDRESS THAT AT ALL?
09:22:47 AND WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT?
09:22:50 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:22:51 AND THAT A GOOD QUESTION.
09:22:53 A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THAT.
09:22:57 ONE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO UNDERSTAND
09:23:04 WHAT THE BEST OPERATION OR THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO
09:23:07 ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.
09:23:08 AND THERE ARE TWO CONCERNS.
09:23:13 ONE WAS AROUND COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ACCESS TO COUNCIL
09:23:14 MEETINGS.
09:23:18 AND TO ADDRESS THAT, WE ARE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF
09:23:24 DISABLED SPACES AROUND OCH FOR THE SAME -- OLD CITY
09:23:25 HALL, THAT IS.
09:23:28 AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE DOING IS ALSO IMPROVING
09:23:33 OUR SYSTEM OR THE APP.
09:23:38 AND THAT IS CURRENTLY THAT IS IN PROCUREMENT THAT, ONE,
09:23:43 IT WILL BE EASIER TO EXTEND THE HOURS AS IN WHEN NEEDED
09:23:46 SHOULD THE PERSON TO SEEK TO STAY PAST THE FOUR-HOUR
09:23:47 WINDOW.
09:23:50 AND THE OTHER IS -- WILL ALSO GETS BETTER INFORMATION
09:23:55 FROM THE BACK END TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEMAND FOR
09:24:00 DISABLED PARKING SPACES IS AND WE CAN ADJUST SUPPLY,
09:24:05 BUT ALSO HOURS OF OPERATION ACCORDINGLY.
09:24:08 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:24:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
09:24:13 ALL RIGHT.
09:24:16 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS
09:24:20 ORDINANCE?
09:24:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, I WOULD BE GLAD TO.
09:24:32 REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 1 FILE 2020-8 CHAPTER 15.
09:24:35 READ AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
09:24:36 CONSIDERATION.
09:24:39 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
09:24:43 PARKER METER REGULATIONS, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF
09:24:47 TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15, PAREN, PARKING,
09:24:52 AMENDING ARABLE 2, REGULATIONS, PERMITS, PENALTIES.
09:24:58 DIVISION 2, PARKING METER REGULATIONS, SECTION 15-81,
09:25:01 HOUR OF OPERATION FOR PARKING METERS, REPEALING ALL
09:25:04 ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
09:25:08 THEREWITH; PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN
09:25:09 EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:25:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND.
09:25:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:25:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:25:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:25:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:25:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:25:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:25:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:25:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:25:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: --
09:25:37 >>CLERK: MIRANDA?
09:25:41 ALL RIGHT, MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT
09:25:42 VOTE.
09:25:46 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION NOVEMBER 5, 2020 AT 9:30
09:25:47 A.M.
09:25:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:25:51 ALL RIGHT.
09:25:59 NUMBER TWO, WE DISCUSSED MOVING THAT TOWARD THE END OF
09:26:00 THE AGENDA.
09:26:05 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CHAIR CITRO.
09:26:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS
09:26:11 3-9.
09:26:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
09:26:16 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:26:18 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:26:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:26:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:26:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:26:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:26:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:26:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:26:38 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:26:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:26:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, PARKS AND REC ITEMS
09:26:48 10-13.
09:26:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEMS 10-13.
09:26:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:26:56 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:26:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:26:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:27:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:27:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:27:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:27:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:27:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:27:13 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:27:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:27:18 NEXT UP PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE WITH CHAIR DINGFELDER.
09:27:27 ITEMS 14-19 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 15 WHICH WAS PULLED.
09:27:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:27:32 I MOVE ITEM 14 AND 16-19.
09:27:35 AND WE WILL DEFER ITEM 15 FOR A LATER DISCUSSION.
09:27:39 >>CLERK: SIR, FOR 19, IT HAS BEEN DEFERRED AS WELL PER
09:27:43 THE MEMORANDUM FROM CHIEF BENNETT.
09:27:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S CORRECT.
09:27:47 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 19 BECAUSE OF THAT MEMO.
09:27:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME RESTATE MY MOTION.
09:27:56 MOVE ITEMS 14, 16, 17, AND 18.
09:28:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:28:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:28:06 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I -- QUESTION WHAT IS HAPPENING
09:28:10 WITH NUMBER 19?
09:28:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS A MEMO FROM THE CHIEF OF
09:28:16 STAFF TO MOVE IT TO STAFF REPORTS.
09:28:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
09:28:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:28:27 A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
09:28:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:28:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:28:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:28:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:28:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:28:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:28:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:28:44 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:28:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:28:49 NEXT UP IS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
09:28:50 CHAIR MIRANDA.
09:28:52 IF YOU CAN MOVE ITEMS AND 21.
09:28:57 22 AND 23 HAVE BEEN PULLED AND TAKEN TO THE BACK OF THE
09:28:57 AGENDA.
09:29:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE ITEMS 20 AND 21.
09:29:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:29:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO RO.
09:29:09 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:29:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:29:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:29:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:29:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:29:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:29:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:29:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:29:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:29:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT, YES, BUILDING, ZONING AND
09:29:29 PRESERVATION WITH CHAIR CARLSON.
09:29:32 REMEMBER ITEM NUMBER 29 IS A SUBSTITUTE.
09:29:37 FULL MOVE THOSE 24-47 WITH 29 AS A SUBSTITUTE.
09:29:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
09:29:43 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 24-47 WITH 29 AS A
09:29:46 SUBSTITUTE.
09:29:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:29:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:29:51 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:29:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:29:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:29:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:29:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:30:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:30:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:30:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:30:13 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY NEXT UP COUNCILMAN
09:30:17 VIERA, ITEMS 48-53, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
09:30:19 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:30:21 I MOVE 48-53.
09:30:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:30:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:30:27 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:30:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:30:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:30:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:30:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:30:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:30:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:30:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:30:44 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:30:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP ITEM NUMBER 54 WHICH IS A
09:30:50 REQUEST FOR US TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC AMERICA NOVEMBER
09:30:54 12, 2020 AT 6 P.M.
09:30:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:30:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:31:01 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:31:03 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:31:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:31:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:31:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:31:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:31:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:31:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:31:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:31:21 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:31:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE ACTUALLY AT 9:31 AND GO TO
09:31:27 OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER 55.
09:31:30 A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
09:31:32 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:31:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:31:35 ANY OBJECTION?
09:31:38 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARING
09:31:39 IS OPEN.
09:31:44 AS I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA, A REQUEST
09:31:49 FROM ATTORNEY JAN MCLEAN TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL OCTOBER
09:31:50 15.
09:31:50 THIS.
09:31:52 JAN MCLEAN ONLINE?
09:31:56 >>JANICE MCLEAN: YES, WITH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY
09:31:57 ATTORNEY.
09:32:00 AND COUNCILMEMBERS, WE RECEIVED THE LAST MINUTE REQUEST
09:32:04 FROM THE HOTEL AND MOTEL O REGARDING THE DOWNTOWN YBOR
09:32:15 TOURISM MARKET NONAD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
09:32:19 ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO YOUR NEXT MEETING OCTOBER
09:32:19 15.
09:32:21 A NECESSITY TO REVISE THE ROLE AGAIN.
09:32:25 IN ADDITION TO THE REVISIONS THAT I HAVE SUBMITTED AS
09:32:27 PART OF THE SUBSTITUTION OF DOCUMENTS.
09:32:31 I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF THE COUNCIL WOULD AGREE TO
09:32:33 THAT CONTINUANCE.
09:32:37 WE WOULD REVISE THE RESOLUTION AND THE ROLE AND
09:32:39 RESUBMIT THE DOCUMENTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON
09:32:41 OCTOBER 15.
09:32:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:32:45 CAN WE GET A MOTION -- OR ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT
09:32:49 THIS TIME?
09:32:49 ALL RIGHT.
09:32:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC
09:32:55 WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THAT AND THAT CONTINUANCE?
09:32:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
09:33:01 TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE ON ITEM 55?
09:33:02 >>CLERK: WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REQUEST FOR THIS
09:33:04 PARTICULAR ITEM.
09:33:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:33:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HEARING NONE.
09:33:10 WE HAVE A MOTION TO -- TO CONTINUE THIS AS A --
09:33:13 COUNCILMAN CITRO, IS THAT YOU?
09:33:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
09:33:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION UNTIL OCTOBER 15.
09:33:18 A SECOND.
09:33:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:33:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:33:23 ANY OBJECTION?
09:33:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:33:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:33:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PART OF THE MOTION, PUBLIC HEARING,
09:33:34 9:30 A.M., PLEASE.
09:33:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:33:39 WE HAVE A MOTION THEN TO CONTINUE THIS FOR 9:30 A.M.
09:33:44 OCTOBER 15 WE HAD THE MOTION TO CLOSE FROM CITRO.
09:33:46 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:33:49 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:33:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES --
09:33:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO INTERRUPTS.
09:33:55 EXCUSE ME, MARTIN SHELBY.
09:34:02 THE MOTION TO CONTINUE IS THE MOTION.
09:34:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD WITH THE ROLL CALL,
09:34:04 PLEASE.
09:34:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:34:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:34:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:34:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:34:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:34:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:34:18 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:34:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:34:24 ALL RIGHT, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 56.
09:34:27 WE HAVE ALREADY OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO WHO IS
09:34:31 HERE TO PRESENT THIS FOR -- OR IT IS A SECOND READING.
09:34:38 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
09:34:41 >> GOOD MORNING, JULIE HARDY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
09:34:41 OFFICE.
09:34:46 THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL
09:34:50 ALLOW CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO ARE DULY CERTIFIED
09:34:55 TO ISSUE PARKING CITATIONS FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE
09:34:56 PARKING CODE.
09:34:59 I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
09:35:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
09:35:08 ALL RIGHT --
09:35:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I WILL BE
09:35:13 GLAD TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
09:35:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S ASK -- SINCE IT IS A PUBLIC
09:35:17 HEARING.
09:35:21 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS?
09:35:23 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS?
09:35:26 >>CLERK: WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST
09:35:27 FOR THIS ITEM.
09:35:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
09:35:32 BEFORE YOU READ THE ITEM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE
09:35:35 THE PUBLIC HEARING.
09:35:37 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:35:39 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:35:40 ANY OBJECTION?
09:35:42 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARING
09:35:44 IS CLOSED.
09:35:46 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:35:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 56, FILE
09:35:55 NUMBER 2020-8 CHAPTER 15, AND 2020-8 CHAPTER 19.
09:35:57 MOVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
09:35:59 READING AND ADOPTION AS FOLLOWS.
09:36:03 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO
09:36:05 THE SCOPE AND AUTHORITY OF THE CITY'S CODE ENFORCEMENT
09:36:08 DIRECTOR AND DUTIES OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MAKING
09:36:12 REVISIONS OF CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER
09:36:14 19, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND STRUCTURAL STANDARDS
09:36:19 AMENDING ARTICLE ONE IN GENERAL -- HAVE I DIGS ONE
09:36:24 SECTION 19-4, DEPARTMENT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, DUTIES
09:36:27 AND SCOPE OF AUTHORITY DIRECTED BY EXPANDING THE
09:36:29 POWERS, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CODE
09:36:32 ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO
09:36:37 ADMINISTER AND ENFORCE CITY CODE CHAPTER 15, PAREN,
09:36:41 PARKING AMENDING CITY CODE OF PARKING ORDINANCES, PAREN
09:36:52 PARKING, 15-3, 15-54 AND 15-122 TO DEFINE DULY
09:36:55 AUTHORIZED CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
09:36:59 AND APPEALING THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
09:37:01 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:37:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:37:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:37:07 ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:37:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:37:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:37:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:37:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:37:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:37:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:37:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:37:26 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:37:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
09:37:30 WE ARE JUST BREEZING THROUGH THE AGENDA, BUT DON'T GET
09:37:31 TOO EXCITED.
09:37:35 WE ARE AT STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
09:37:39 SEVERAL ITEMS PULLED BEFORE 57, 58 IN THAT ORDER.
09:37:43 ITEMS PULLED THAT ARE REQUESTED TO BE PUSHED BACK WHICH
09:37:49 ARE 2, 15, 19, 22 AND 23.
09:37:51 I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BEGIN IN ORDER.
09:37:54 ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:37:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM SORRY.
09:37:58 MARTIN SHELBY.
09:38:01 WANT TO BE CLEAR OF THE PROCEDURE BECAUSE A WALK-ON OF
09:38:05 THE ADDENDUM A REQUEST OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO ADD
09:38:07 UNDER STAFF REPORT THE FIRST ITEM BEING SOMETHING THAT
09:38:10 HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDED PERMANENTLY REQUEST OF
09:38:12 COUNCIL CALLED THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
09:38:16 DID YOU WANT THAT TO BE GENERALLY TAKEN UP NOW, THAT
09:38:21 ITEM BEFORE YOU GO INTO ITEMS?
09:38:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF FIRST
09:38:26 AND THE ITEMS REQUESTED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:38:29 IF CHIEF OF STAFF IS ON THE LINE, WE WILL BEGIN WITH
09:38:32 YOU AND THEN WITH THE PULLED ITEM ORDERS.
09:38:33 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.
09:38:35 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:38:37 THANK YOU FOR THE AMENDMENT TO CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY
09:38:42 FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE TYPICALLY A REPORT ON
09:38:45 NONACTION ITEMS BY COUNCIL.
09:38:46 TODAY WE HAVE THREE ITEMS.
09:38:49 TWO WILL BE PRESENTED BY ME VERY QUICKLY.
09:38:55 AND THEN I WILL HAND IT OFF TO OCEA WYNN, OUR
09:38:58 ADMINISTRATOR OVER NEIGHBORHOODS FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
09:39:03 BUT FIRST, THE FIRST ITEM I WANTED TO SHARE WITH
09:39:06 COUNCIL SOMETHING THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART
09:39:09 WHICH IS OUR PERSONNEL, ESPECIALLY GOING THROUGH THE
09:39:12 STATE OF EMERGENCY WE HAVE BEEN IN SINCE MARCH WITH
09:39:13 COVID-19.
09:39:18 AND I KNOW OFF MEMO FROM KELLY AUSTIN COMING UP ON AN
09:39:22 ITEM THAT -- WAS ASKED FOR A WRITTEN REPORT AS IT
09:39:25 RELATES TO CARING FOR OUR PERSONNEL, BOTH GENERAL
09:39:29 EMPLOYEES AND PUBLIC SAFETY AS IT RELATES TO THE IMPACT
09:39:29 OF COVID-19.
09:39:32 SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE RELEVANT AND PERTINENT TO GIVE
09:39:37 YOU SOME DATA ABOUT OUR PERSONNEL AS WE CLOSE OUT THE
09:39:40 FISCAL YEAR AND, OF COURSE, THE CALENDAR MONTH OF
09:39:43 SEPTEMBER BEING IN THIS STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR MULTIPLE
09:39:43 MONTHS.
09:39:47 AS YOU KNOW, KELLY AUSTIN IS OUR DIRECTOR OVER HUMAN
09:39:51 RESOURCES AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT, BUT SHE IS VERY WELL
09:39:55 SUPPORTED IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE WITH TIFFANY KLEIN,
09:39:57 WHO IS OUR OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSE.
09:40:01 AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO APPRECIATE HER
09:40:04 LEVEL OF SERVICE UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OUT AT THE
09:40:05 POLICE TRAINING CENTER.
09:40:09 AND IF IT WASN'T FOR TIFFANY SUPPORTING PUBLIC SAFETY
09:40:13 AND EVEN SOME OF THOSE AND KELLY AUSTIN AND HER TEAM
09:40:16 SUPPORTING OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES, WE WOULD REALLY BE
09:40:17 CHALLENGED.
09:40:20 AND I THINK YOU WILL SEE THIS IN A SECOND.
09:40:24 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE HAS HAD -- AND I AM GOING TO DO SOME
09:40:26 ROUNDING FOR THE SAKE OF DATA.
09:40:32 BUT THEY HAD OVER 60 CONFIRMED CASES, AND IT HAS HAD AN
09:40:38 IMPACT OF OVER 830 QUARANTINES TO THEIR STAFF SINCE THE
09:40:43 BEGINNING OF THE COVID EPIDEMIC OR PANDEMIC.
09:40:46 TPD HAD RIGHT AROUND THE SAME NUMBER 60 IMPACTED
09:40:50 EMPLOYEES AND OVER 760 QUARANTINES DURING THE SAME
09:40:51 PERIOD OF TIME.
09:40:58 OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES' IMPACT HAS BEEN OVER 110 WITH
09:40:59 550 IMPACTED.
09:41:05 AND SO THAT KIND OF BRINGS THE TOTAL TO 236 IMPACTED BY
09:41:13 COVID-19 CAUSING A QUARANTINE OF OVER 200 EMPLOYEES.
09:41:16 IF YOU ADD THAT TOGETHER 50% OF OUR WORK FORCE BEEN
09:41:20 IMPACTED ON THE FRONT LINES OF SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AS
09:41:21 IT RELATES TO COVID-19.
09:41:24 AND IF -- I KNOW IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE AND I
09:41:27 HAVE SHARED SOME OF THESE NUMBERS IN A GROSS PERCENTAGE
09:41:30 WITH YOU THAT JUST A MONTH OR SO AGO, IT WAS ABOUT 45%
09:41:34 OF OUR STAFF HAD A DIRECT OR A QUARANTINE IMPACT
09:41:35 RELATED TO COVID-19.
09:41:39 SO I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SHARE THAT DATA WITH
09:41:39 YOU.
09:41:42 THE SECOND THING THAT I WANT TO SHARE IS, AS YOU KNOW,
09:41:48 THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS DOING THE
09:41:49 EMERGENCY -- THURSDAY.
09:41:53 AND DURING THAT PRESENTATION, THEY SENT A SLIDE DECK
09:41:57 OUT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE COVID RATE PER 100,000 FOR THE
09:41:58 LAST SEVEN DAYS.
09:42:01 NOW I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SLIDE DECK THAT WILL BE
09:42:04 PRESENTED TODAY, BUT USING THE SLIDE DECK FROM A WEEK
09:42:08 AGO, THERE ARE FIVE TIERS THAT THEY TEND TO SHOW
09:42:10 THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
09:42:16 LEVEL RED, LEVEL ORANGE, TWO YELLOWS AND A LEVEL GREEN.
09:42:24 WE ARE SITTING BETWEEN A LEVEL ORANGE AND YELLOW.
09:42:26 8.6 PER 100,000.
09:42:29 OUR GOAL IS TO GET DOWN FROM 7.
09:42:34 IF YOU GO DOWN FROM 86 TO 7 PER 100,000, THAT IS THE
09:42:36 GOAL TO GET IN THE GREEN LEVEL TO MOVE FORWARD.
09:42:40 THE GOOD NEWS IS IF THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE HAS BEEN
09:42:43 HOVERING AROUND 10% POSITIVITY RATE, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR
09:42:45 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NUMBER IS JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOVE
09:42:46 5%.
09:42:50 BUT OUR GOAL IS TO GET BELOW 5% AND KEEP CONTINUING
09:42:51 DOWN.
09:42:55 OUR GOAL IS TO COUNCIL BECAUSE OF YOUR CONSTITUENCY.
09:42:59 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE WEARING THE MASK AND
09:43:03 THE BUSINESS SECTOR AND HAVE PATRONS WEAR MASK IN OUR
09:43:05 DISCRETIONARY DENSITY ENVIRONMENT OF ATTENDING
09:43:08 RESTAURANTS AND OTHER SOCIAL GATHERINGS, BECAUSE
09:43:12 WITHOUT THOSE PROTECTIVE MEASURES IN PLACE, WE MAY SEE
09:43:15 AN UNFORTUNATE TREND BACK THE OTHER WAY, AND WITH
09:43:18 SCHOOLS OPEN AND MORE EVENTS OPEN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR
09:43:22 AND, OF COURSE, THE PATRONIZING OF -- OF EITHER
09:43:25 RESTAURANTS OR OTHER SOCIAL ACTIVITIES.
09:43:30 WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, THE MASK
09:43:33 WEARING, FROM A LEADERSHIP MODEL IF ANYTHING ELSE IN
09:43:35 ADDITION TO THE SCIENTIFIC ASPECT.
09:43:38 SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT DATA WITH YOU.
09:43:40 AGAIN, NO EXPECTED ACTION.
09:43:42 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE KEEPING YOU
09:43:47 ABREAST OF THE RISK ANALYSIS TO OUR -- TO OUR VALUED
09:43:49 PERSONNEL AND, OF COURSE, THE COMMUNITY.
09:43:56 WITH THAT I WILL HAND IT OVER TO OCEA WYNN WHO HAS A
09:43:59 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT AS IT RELATES TO PARKS AND REC
09:44:02 DEPARTMENT AND REMIND YOU SHE IS WEARING THE HAT OF THE
09:44:04 CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER.
09:44:08 WITH THAT OCEA, YOU CAN TAKE THE MIC.
09:44:10 >> GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
09:44:12 AND GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:44:18 IN JULY WHEN GIVEN THE POSITION OF THE DIRECTOR OF
09:44:21 PARKS AND RECREATION, I WAS ASKED BY A NUMBER OF YOU
09:44:23 WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR FILLING THAT POSITION.
09:44:28 AND I WAS VERY OPEN WITH SHARING THAT REALLY ASSESSING
09:44:34 TO SEE WHAT SKILL SETS WERE NEEDED FOR THE PARK -- FOR
09:44:38 THE DIRECTOR'S POSITION BEFORE JUST PUTTING SOMEONE IN
09:44:42 THERE.
09:44:47 PLEASE ASK YOU THAT SHERISHA HILL HAVE BEEN APPOINTED
09:44:51 AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
09:44:56 SHERISHA BRINGS TO THE ORGANIZATION OVER 15 YEARS OF
09:45:00 EXPERIENCE IN PLANNING, OPERATING AND CREATING AND
09:45:07 MANAGING, NOT ONLY CHANGE IN PARKS AND REC AS A
09:45:13 DIVISION, BUT ALSO CHANGE IN THE ORGANIZATION.
09:45:18 SHE HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING IN EACH AREA
09:45:22 WITHIN THE PARKS AND RECREATION FIELD.
09:45:26 AND WE FEEL THIS IS A GREAT FIT FOR THIS POSITION.
09:45:33 SHERISHA HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN RECREATION
09:45:35 MANAGEMENT AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS
09:45:37 ADMINISTRATION.
09:45:40 AS THE DIVERSITY OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, I AM
09:45:45 TASKED WITH SEEING WHERE CAN WE BE MORE DIVERSE.
09:45:50 ARE WE REPRESENTING NOT ONLY THE PUBLIC OR REPRESENTING
09:45:56 OUR DEPARTMENTS WITH DIVERSE AND BEING INCLUSIVE.
09:46:02 AS WE GO THROUGH OUR HIRES, THIS THE FIRST STEP IN US
09:46:06 ASSESSING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REPRESENTING ALL,
09:46:10 AND THAT WE ARE LIVING UP TO THE COMMITMENT THAT WE
09:46:15 MAKE TO YOU TO BE A DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE ORGANIZATION.
09:46:17 JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
09:46:21 AND I CAN ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
09:46:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
09:46:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
09:46:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:46:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
09:46:37 IN A LOT OF THESE INITIATIVES WE HAVE ON IN THE CITY IN
09:46:37 A PARTICULAR TIME.
09:46:39 I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION.
09:46:42 I SEE THE TERM "INTERIM DIRECTOR."
09:46:45 ARE WE LOOKING IN-HOUSE, OUTSIDE.
09:46:51 ARE WE LOOKING FOR THE TERM "INTERIM DIRECTOR."
09:46:53 MISS WYNN?
09:46:55 >> WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON
09:47:02 AND THE RIGHT FIT TO BE FAIR TO SHERISHA TO SEE IF THIS
09:47:04 IS A FIT FOR HER.
09:47:11 SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AND TIP, COUNCILMAN GUDES,
09:47:14 I DO NOT HAVE A TIME FRAME FOR THAT.
09:47:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
09:47:18 I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD MANAGERS OVER IN THE PARKS
09:47:21 AND RECREATION AND I KNOW ALL OF THEM PERSONALLY.
09:47:24 I WORK WITH ALL OF THEM AND ALL OF THEM COULD BE A GOOD
09:47:29 CANDIDATE, BUT I THINK WITH THE NEEDS IN THE CITY, I
09:47:34 THINK YOU MADE A GREAT CHOICE.
09:47:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHAIRMAN --
09:47:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:47:46 I WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF SHERISHA HILLS.
09:47:49 SHE HAD CONTACT WITH US FOR MANY YEARS, AND SHE, LIKE
09:47:53 OTHERS IN THAT DEPARTMENT, HAVE BEEN ALWAYS VERY
09:47:56 ACCEPTABLE TO WORKING OUT WHATEVER WE REQUESTED TO MAKE
09:48:01 SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT RUNS AT 100% EFFICIENCY.
09:48:07 AND I THINK THAT FIRST LETTER "INTERIM" WILL SOON BE
09:48:08 PERMANENT.
09:48:13 SHE IS AN OUTSTANDING PERSON, PERSONALITY-WISE AND ABLE
09:48:17 TO DO THE WORK REQUESTED -- THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ONE
09:48:21 THE HARDEST ONE IN THE CITY AND SO MANY VARIABLES AND
09:48:23 SO MANY OTHER THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO.
09:48:30 AND I JUST -- THESE ARE MY FEELINGS THAT IF -- THE
09:48:31 PERSON WHICH SHE IS, I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO
09:48:35 HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WORD "INTERIM" IN FRONT OF IT.
09:48:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
09:48:38 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:48:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:48:43 I WANTED TO ECHO WHAT HAS BEEN SAID INCLUDING MISS
09:48:43 HILL.
09:48:44 I HAVE MET HER BEFORE.
09:48:48 I REMEMBER MEETING HER AT COPELAND PARK AND REALLY
09:48:50 IMPRESSED BY HER.
09:48:55 IF MEMORY SERVES ME WELL, A TAMPA NATIVE ACADEMY OF
09:48:57 HOLY NAMES, NOTRE DAME UNIVERSITY, IF I RECALL.
09:49:00 JUST A VERY ACCOMPLISHED WOMAN.
09:49:03 AND WE WANT TO SEE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:49:09 IN THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS IF WE CAN WHO ARE FROM TAMPA,
09:49:13 WHO GREW UP HERE, WHO KNOW THAT THE TAMPA EXPERIENCE.
09:49:14 SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
09:49:17 NOW MIND YOU, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE NOT FROM
09:49:17 TAMPA.
09:49:18 THAT IS GREAT.
09:49:20 THEY DO A GREAT JOB.
09:49:24 BUT THAT IS AN EXTRA BENEFIT, I THINK, THAT MISS HILL
09:49:27 HAS WHICH IS SHE KNOWS TAMPA.
09:49:28 SHE IS FROM HERE.
09:49:31 AND WOULD GO TO NOTRE DAME UNIVERSITY IF MY MEMORY
09:49:33 SERVES ME RIGHT.
09:49:34 AND DO GREAT THINGS THERE.
09:49:36 SHE KNOWS THE TAMPA EXPERIENCE.
09:49:41 AND SHE -- SHE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO GREAT THINGS.
09:49:42 I THINK SHE IS A GREAT PICK.
09:49:45 I AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID.
09:49:49 I THINK WE WILL SEE THAT "INTERIM" TAKEN OFF AND MAKE
09:49:52 IT PERMANENT IF THAT IS SOMETHING SHE WOULD BE AMENABLE
09:49:53 TOO.
09:49:56 I WANT TO APPLAUD THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THAT IS A
09:49:57 GREAT PICK.
09:50:00 AND ONE THAT I THINK ALL OF COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT, AT
09:50:03 LEAST FOR INTERIM AND I AM SURE SHE WILL DO A GREAT JOB
09:50:03 FROM THERE.
09:50:04 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:50:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:06 ANYBODY ELSE?
09:50:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:50:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:50:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:50:19 I WANTED TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:50:23 AND CONGRATULATE MISS HILL AND MISS WYNN FOR THIS
09:50:28 EXCELLENT CHOICE, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR.
09:50:32 HAVING HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH MISS HILL A WHOLE LOT,
09:50:35 I THINK SHE WAS COMING ON BOARD AS I WAS LEAVING
09:50:38 COUNCIL THE LAST TIME, BUT I HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT
09:50:39 HER.
09:50:42 AND I -- I AM SURE SHE IS GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB.
09:50:46 BUT WITH REGARD TO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, I THINK
09:50:48 IT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
09:50:52 AND I AM PROUD FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE THIS
09:50:53 CHOICE INTERNALLY.
09:50:55 I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT MESSAGE THAT WE WOULD
09:51:00 SEND TO OUR EMPLOYEES THAT -- THAT IF YOU ARE A GOOD --
09:51:03 IF YOU WERE A GREAT EMPLOYEE, YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE AN
09:51:05 OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE UP THROUGH OUR SYSTEM.
09:51:08 WHEN THE OPENINGS OPEN UP, YOU WILL BE THE FIRST ONES
09:51:11 WE LOOK AT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW OUR CITY, YOU UNDERSTAND
09:51:14 OUR CITY, YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORK AND YOU
09:51:18 UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE IN THE
09:51:19 COMMUNITY.
09:51:22 AND I THINK IT IS A GREAT MESSAGE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE
09:51:26 WHEN PEOPLE SEE A DEAD END AT THE -- ABOVE THEM, A
09:51:31 GLASS CEILING THAT THEY CAN'T BUST THROUGH, THEY GET
09:51:34 DISCOURAGED AND MAYBE THEY WANT TO MOVE ON TO -- TO
09:51:36 ANOTHER CITY AND NOT STAY WITH US.
09:51:40 SO NOT ONLY DO I THINK IT IS A GREAT DAY FOR MISS HILL
09:51:42 AND FOR THE CITY, I THINK IT IS A GREAT DAY FOR ALL THE
09:51:44 CITY EMPLOYEES IN THAT REGARD.
09:51:46 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:51:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:49 ANYBODY ELSE?
09:51:51 ALL RIGHT.
09:51:55 THESE UPDATES FROM THE CHIEF AND STAFF AND WHATNOT, IN
09:51:59 ORDER TO MAKE THEM PERMANENT, WE NEED A MOTION TO KEEP
09:52:02 IT ON THE AGENDA MOVING FORWARD.
09:52:03 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SHELBY?
09:52:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:52:07 WE CAN ASK MR. BENNETT TO ADDRESS IT MORE SPECIFICALLY
09:52:11 IF HE HAS ANYTHING ELSE HE WANTS TO ADD.
09:52:14 I BELIEVE IT WILL BE TITLED "ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE" THE
09:52:19 FIRST ITEM ON THE STAFF REPORT ON ANY REGULAR AGENDA.
09:52:21 I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT
09:52:22 SUBJECT MATTER.
09:52:25 I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL BE THE WAY HE DESCRIBES IT AS
09:52:27 SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE A REPORT EVERY
09:52:28 AGENDA.
09:52:30 I BELIEVE IT IS ON AN AS-NEEDED BASIS.
09:52:35 MR. BENNETT, MAYBE YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE
09:52:37 COUNCIL?
09:52:41 >> MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE CORRECT, A FIRST ITEM TO BE A
09:52:45 PLACEHOLDER FOR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES TO BRING COUNCIL
09:52:48 AND PUBLIC TIMELY INFORMATION OR DATA THAT DOESN'T
09:52:50 REQUIRE ACTION BUT TO SHARE INFORMATION LIKE WE DID
09:52:53 TODAY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
09:52:54 BUT, AGAIN, RELEVANT.
09:52:57 AND IF THERE IS NOTHING TO REPORT, WE WOULD SIMPLY SAYS
09:53:00 THERE NOTHING TO REPORT.
09:53:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO MR. CHAIR, IF WE CAN HAVE A MOTION
09:53:05 TO THAT EFFECT TO DIRECT THE CLERK TO MAKE SURE THAT
09:53:08 APPEARS ON EVERY AGENDA AT THE REGULAR MEETING, THE
09:53:10 FIRST ITEM UNDER STAFF REPORT.
09:53:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE A MOTION.
09:53:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:53:18 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:53:19 ANY OBJECTION?
09:53:23 HEARING NONE FROM UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.
09:53:26 CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT, SINCE YOU ARE STILL ONLINE.
09:53:30 I SAW THE MEMO THAT YOU HAD ASKED FOR NUMBER 19 TO BE
09:53:32 PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:53:38 WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT AT THIS TIME.
09:53:42 >> I WILL DEFER TO MISS CAROLE POST, OUR DIRECTOR OF
09:53:45 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
09:53:48 I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION.
09:53:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD AFTERNOON, MISS POST.
09:53:55 >> CAROL POST, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
09:53:58 I AM JOINED BY OUR DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION
09:54:00 CENTER, UNA GARVEY.
09:54:03 JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT FOR CONSIDERING IN FRONT OF
09:54:06 YOU TODAY IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE FUNDING FOR
09:54:10 THE FIRST STEP OF A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR CAPITAL
09:54:13 IMPROVEMENT AND EXPANSION AT OUR CONVENTION CENTER.
09:54:18 OUR CITY IS GROWING, OUR HOTEL CAPACITY IS GROWING AND
09:54:21 OUR TEAM IS COMMITTED TO CONTINUE TO ATTRACT THE
09:54:25 WORLD-CLASS EVENTS WE HAVE SEEN COMING TO THE CITY.
09:54:28 AND AS SUCH, WE BELIEVE IT IS INCUMBENT TO ENSURE THAT
09:54:31 OUR CONVENTION FACILITIES EVOLVE AS WELL.
09:54:35 NOT WITHSTANDING COVID AND THE USUAL TIMES OF THE LAST
09:54:38 SEVERAL MONTHS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPTIMISTIC SLATE OF
09:54:46 EVENTS ON THE HORIZON IN FRONT OF US AND BOOKING
09:54:52 PICKING UP FOR 2021 AND WE ARE CONFIDENT.
09:54:56 OUR TEAM WAS CERTIFIED BY THE GLOBAL RISK BIO ADVISORY
09:54:59 COUNCIL WHICH PERTAINS TO ESTABLISHING EFFECTIVE VIERA
09:55:03 PROTECTION METHODS THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.
09:55:06 WE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB TO ACHIEVE THAT RAPIDLY FOR
09:55:10 WELL RECOGNIZED CERTIFICATION, AND THE TCC READY PLAN,
09:55:14 WHICH I SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL EARLIER IN THE SUMMER,
09:55:18 HAS REALLY ENABLED THE OPERATION TO CONTINUE
09:55:21 SUCCESSFULLY THROUGH THIS UNUSUAL TIME AND POSITION THE
09:55:23 CONVENTION CENTER FOR ITS FUTURE.
09:55:27 SO RELATIVE TO TODAY'S AGREEMENT FOR CONSIDERATION, WE
09:55:29 HAVE INVITED AS SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY PARTICIPATED
09:55:34 IN A MORE DETAILED BRIEFING OF THE LONG-TERM PLAN, AS
09:55:37 WELL AS THE TOUR OF THE FACILITY TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE
09:55:41 SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND EXPANSIONS WOULD OCCUR.
09:55:44 WE WILL KEEP THAT DOOR OPEN FOR COUNCILMEMBERS WHO ARE
09:55:48 INTERESTED TO -- TO COME SEE THAT ON-SITE.
09:55:53 BUT TO GIVE YOU A COLLECTIVE BRIEFING THIS MORNING, I
09:55:57 WOULD LIKE TO TURN OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR UNA GARVEY.
09:56:01 SHE DESERVES ALL THE CREDIT FOR THE STEADY HAND SHE HAS
09:56:03 DEMONSTRATED THROUGHOUT THE COVID SITUATION.
09:56:07 AND WE WILL BE ANCHORING US FOR THIS PROJECT THAT LIES
09:56:08 AHEAD.
09:56:12 TURN IT OVER TO UNA FOR A PRESENTATION ON THE CAPITAL
09:56:13 IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
09:56:20 THANK YOU.
09:56:24 >> GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE COUNCIL, UNA GARVEY.
09:56:27 CONVENTION CENTER AND TOURISM DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF
09:56:28 TAMPA.
09:56:31 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF
09:56:34 ITEM 19, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE INITIAL AGREEMENT
09:56:40 WITH SKANSKA USA BUILDERS IN THE AMOUNT OF 2.1 MILLION
09:56:43 DOLLARS FOR A DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT FOR TTC.
09:56:52 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:56:55 AS YOU MAY BE AWARE WE ARE MAKING SEVERAL UPGRADES TO
09:56:59 OUR VENUE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LOCAL EATERIES AND
09:57:08 TAKING A ADVANTAGE OF THE DOWNTIME FOR OUR FACILITY.
09:57:09 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
09:57:12 WHERE ARE WE HEADED NEXT AND WHY?
09:57:15 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:57:19 TTC IS A 30-YEAR-OLD FACILITY WITH CHILLERS THAT ARE
09:57:25 USING FREON NO LONGER PRODUCED AND ELEVATORS THAT NEED
09:57:29 TO BE CHANGED FROM HYDRAULIC TO ELECTRONICS.
09:57:32 SOME OF OUR VALUABLE SHOWS HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE
09:57:34 OUTGROWING US.
09:57:38 WE HAVE SOON TO OPEN A FOUR OUT OF FIVE-STAR HOTEL
09:57:42 PROPERTY WITH TRAVEL BETWEEN BOTH DESTINATIONS.
09:57:45 SO OFFERING THE SAME LEVEL OF PRODUCT SERVICES IS
09:57:48 CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THE REGION.
09:57:52 WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OFFERING PRODUCT
09:57:55 OFFERINGS AND TECHNOLOGY COMPONENTS THAT KEEP US
09:57:57 COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE INDUSTRY.
09:58:02 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:58:06 WE WORK CLOSELY WITH VISIT TAMPA BAY AND OUR HOTEL
09:58:06 PARTNERS.
09:58:11 WHILE THIS SPREADSHEET AT A GLANCE MAY BE CONFUSING TO
09:58:15 UNDERSTAND, OVERALL IT INDICATES WHAT CAROLE HAD
09:58:18 TOUCHED UPON AND THAT IS THAT THE HOTEL NIGHTS ON
09:58:24 AVERAGE FROM '21 ALL THE WAY TO '27 AND SOME BEYOND
09:58:30 THAT ARE ACTUALLY AT A PACE REPORT OF 120% OCCUPANCY.
09:58:34 SO GROWING THE DESTINATION OVER ALL IS A CRITICAL
09:58:38 COMPONENT OF STAYING ON TOP OF HAVING ENOUGH BREAKOUT
09:58:43 ROOMS AND MEETING ROOMS AND TRADE SHOW FLOOR SPACE THAT
09:58:48 MAXIMIZES THE POTENTIAL TO CONTINUE TO BUILD DOWNTOWN
09:58:52 HOTEL BLOCKS AND POTENTIALLY OUT INTO THE WESTSHORE
09:58:56 AREA AND THE EAST PORTIONS OF THE CITY.
09:59:00 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:59:03 THE INITIAL AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE APPROVING TODAY AS
09:59:05 PART OF A THREE-PHASE PROGRAM.
09:59:07 EACH WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AT THE COMMENCEMENT
09:59:09 OF EACH PHASE.
09:59:13 TODAY'S INITIAL AGREEMENT IS PHASE ONE, AND IT ACTUALLY
09:59:16 IS FOR THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURAL
09:59:22 SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUILD-OUT.
09:59:24 PHASE TWO, OF COURSE, WILL BE THE CONVENTION OF THOSE
09:59:28 DESIGNS INTO A CONSTRUCTION PLAN WITH A GUARANTEED
09:59:30 MASTER PLAN BUDGET.
09:59:34 WE WILL USE TARGET VALUE DESIGN TO IDENTIFY THE
09:59:35 PRIORITIES, SOME OF WHICH WILL COME BEFORE YOU SHORTLY
09:59:39 AS EARLY OUTPUT ITEMS.
09:59:47 THEN PHASE THREE, APPROXIMATELY THE YEAR '22-'23 WILL
09:59:51 UPDATE THE 2016 TTC MASTER PLAN FOR EVEN POSSIBLE
09:59:55 FUTURE EXPANSION THAT KEEPS US COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER
09:59:59 CONVENTION CENTERS THAT WE ARE COMPETITIVE WITH IN THE
10:00:02 INDUSTRY THAT ARE BUILDING CONVENTION TRADE SHOW FLOORS
10:00:09 THAT ARE IN THE 350,000 TO 400,000-SQUARE-FOOT RANGE
10:00:12 AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONES ACROSS THE I-4
10:00:15 CORRIDOR IN ORLANDO.
10:00:20 WE HAVE NONRESPONDENTS TO THE RFI AND FIVE COMPANIES
10:00:23 PARTICIPATED IN THE CCNA INTERVIEW PROCESS.
10:00:26 FUNDING WILL BE DERIVED FROM CRA FUNDS AND TOURIST
10:00:33 DEVELOPMENT TAX DOLLARS, OF WHICH ROB ROSNER, DIRECTOR
10:00:36 OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
10:00:38 QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FUNDINGS.
10:00:43 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:00:46 SKANSKA DESIGN TEAM INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 81% OF THE
10:00:51 WIMBY PARTICIPATION.
10:00:53 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:00:59 SKANSKA DESIGN TEAM INCLUDES 81% OF THE WIMBY
10:00:59 PARTICIPATION.
10:01:04 SKANSKA HAD THE HIGHEST WIMBY PARTICIPATION UPON ALL OF
10:01:10 THE PROPOSERS ADDITIONALLY, SKANSKA HAS WORKED WITH THE
10:01:20 CITY OF TAMPA EBL AND HELD A WEBEX EVENT WITH 130
10:01:25 PARTICIPATING BUSINESSES, PARTICIPATING IN THAT EVENT.
10:01:27 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:01:36 THIS DESIGN CRITERIA -- BACK ONE SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:01:47 IT SHOULD BE ON THE FUTURE VISION '20-'23 SLIDE.
10:01:48 WE ARE MISSING A SLIDE.
10:01:51 WE ARE MISSING A SLIDE.
10:01:57 STOP AT THE CONCEPTUAL PICTURE FOR ME.
10:01:58 RIGHT THERE.
10:01:58 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:02:05 THIS DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE HAVE MANY COMPONENTS THAT
10:02:08 ARE BEING ADDRESS AND SOME THAT PART OF THE
10:02:09 INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
10:02:13 THE OVERALL CONCEPT TO UPGRADE THE INFRASTRUCTURE,
10:02:16 MODERNIZE THE CURRENT PRODUCT OFFERINGS AND ADD
10:02:19 ADDITIONAL MEETING SPACES.
10:02:22 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR WHILE WE ARE DOING
10:02:29 ALL OF THIS, WE ARE CONTINUING TO HOST EVENTS.
10:02:33 THIS PHOTO IS CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE.
10:02:36 IN ADDITION TO GAINING 18 NEW FLEXIBLE MEETING SPACES
10:02:43 FOR APPROXIMATELY 18,000 MORE SQUARE FEET
10:02:47 INTERIOR-WISE, WE WILL GAIN 9,000 SQUARE FEET OF
10:02:53 ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR RENTAL SPACE UNDER OUR CANOPY, ALL
10:02:56 WHILE IMPROVING THE RIVER WALK EXPERIENCE.
10:02:57 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:03:02 THE NEXT FEW DESIGN SLIDES ARE ALL CONCEPTUAL.
10:03:07 AND THEY ARE PART OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT ON HERE
10:03:10 ARE THE MEETING ROOMS THAT WILL COME OFF OF THE
10:03:13 CONVENTION LEVEL AS WE BREAK THROUGH THE WEST HALL,
10:03:18 OVER THE CANOPY, TAKING THE MEETING SPACE ALL THE WAY
10:03:21 OUT TO THE PILLARS OF THE RIVER WALK.
10:03:23 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
10:03:26 THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY THE SPACES THAT ARE ON THE
10:03:30 FOURTH FLOOR WHERE THE REST -- THERE ARE SEVERAL
10:03:32 MEETINGS ROOMS UP THERE.
10:03:35 APPROXIMATELY 12 MEETINGS ROOMS UP ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.
10:03:38 THIS WILL BUILD UPON THAT INVENTORY FOR ADDITIONAL
10:03:41 BREAKOUT SPACE.
10:03:43 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:03:46 WE WILL BRING BACK -- WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU THE
10:03:50 FINAL DESIGN DURING A PHASE TWO PROCESS.
10:03:53 SO WHEN WE WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THESE
10:03:57 PARTICULAR SLIDES, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL
10:04:01 THOUGHTS THAT WE HAVE IN REGARDS WITH HOW THE SPACE
10:04:02 COULD LOOK.
10:04:07 WITH WINDOW THAT'S OVERLOOK THE TRADE SHOW.
10:04:08 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:04:13 AND, OF COURSE, COLUMNS AND -- THAT WILL ACTUALLY ADD A
10:04:15 FLEXIBILITY TO THE SPACE.
10:04:19 THAT WILL MAKE IT A MORE -- A SPACE THAT COULD BE
10:04:24 EITHER USED FOR MEETING ROOMS OR COULD BE USED AS AN
10:04:25 EXTENSION TO THE TRADE SHOW FLOOR.
10:04:29 A VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF MARKETING FOR OUR CONVENTION
10:04:33 CENTER.
10:04:37 AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:04:41 AND THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A BIRDS-EYE VIEW OF WHAT WE
10:04:44 WOULD LOOK AT FROM NEW MEETING ROOMS FROM ABOVE THE
10:04:47 CONVENTION CENTER FLOOR, LOOKING DOWN UPON THE TRADE
10:04:53 SHOW FLOOR.
10:04:54 NEXT.
10:04:58 OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS -- OVER 30 YEARS AGO, A SIMILAR
10:05:00 COUNCIL BRAVELY VOTED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
10:05:03 MAJESTIC VENUE THAT GREW THIS CITY INTO A SPECTACULAR
10:05:06 SHOWCASE FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.
10:05:09 TODAY, GENTLEMEN, WHY YOU HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO
10:05:13 BUILD UPON THAT LEGACY AND TO TAKE THIS VALUABLE ASSET
10:05:17 BEFORE YOU AND TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR CITY AND OUR
10:05:19 DESTINATION FOR DECADES TO COME.
10:05:22 THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION FOR THIS MORNING.
10:05:27 AND I HOPE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CAROLE, ROB AND I
10:05:29 WILL AVAILABLE TO HELP ANSWER THEM.
10:05:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:33 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN MEMBERS?
10:05:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
10:05:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, YES, SIR.
10:05:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS GARVEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:45 THE CONVENTION CENTER AND YOUR STAFF JUST RECEIVED A
10:05:46 VERY, VERY NICE AWARD.
10:05:49 CAN YOU TELL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTEN BEING THAT
10:05:50 AWARD.
10:05:54 >> ACTUALLY CAROLE TOUCHED UPON IT A LITTLE BIT.
10:06:01 THE GOLD STAR ACCREDITATION FROM THE GLOBAL BIO RISK
10:06:01 COUNCIL.
10:06:07 A REWARD THAT SAY THAT'S WE ARE A SANITIZED CLEAN
10:06:07 FACILITY.
10:06:13 AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD THAT STANDARD THAT IS
10:06:18 SET BY THAT COUNCIL THAT IS HELD THROUGHOUT THIS
10:06:19 NATION.
10:06:22 AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS THAT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
10:06:25 CENTER WAS THE FIRST IN THE REGION TO RECEIVE THAT
10:06:25 DESIGNATION.
10:06:30 IT IS ONE OF 15 IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO HAVE REACHED
10:06:32 THAT DESIGNATION.
10:06:38 AND IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF 47 THROUGHOUT THE NATION IN
10:06:40 CONVENTION CENTERS ALONE.
10:06:44 IN THOSE 15 THAT I MENTIONED FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
10:06:50 A LOT OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER VENUES LIKE HOTELS,
10:06:53 EVEN SOME OF THE SMALLER ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEXES THAT
10:06:56 ARE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
10:06:58 I BELIEVE WE ARE THE LARGEST IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA
10:07:02 ASIDE FROM THE ORANGE COUNTY CONVENTION CENTER WHO ALSO
10:07:04 HAS THE DESIGNATION.
10:07:08 IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MARKET THE CONVENTION
10:07:12 CENTER AS -- IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY.
10:07:15 SO WE ARE REALLY EXCITED AND VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE
10:07:18 AMOUNT OF HARD WORK THAT WENT IN AND THE COLLABORATION
10:07:23 IT TOOK FROM SO MANY PEOPLE FROM NOT ONLY OUR OWN CITY
10:07:27 OF TAMPA TEAM, BUT ALSO FROM OUR PARTNERS' TEAMS THAT
10:07:28 ARE ON OUR PROPERTY.
10:07:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR
10:07:31 STAFF.
10:07:36 MR. CHAIR, THESE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AT
10:07:38 THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:07:41 THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO BE ADDING AMENITIES TO EVERY
10:07:46 EVENT PLANNER IS WANTING TO SEE AND KEEPING THE
10:07:48 CONVENTION CENTER MODERN.
10:07:51 THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALSO HELP THE TAMPA CONVENTION
10:07:53 CENTER STAY VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE WITH THE SURROUNDING
10:07:55 AREAS.
10:07:57 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:08:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:08:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS MIRANDA.
10:08:06 CAN I SPEAK?
10:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:08:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK UNA GARVEY TO HAVE THE
10:08:14 FORESIGHT -- THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HAVE THE FORESIGHT
10:08:16 WHEN OFF SERVICE BUILDING LIKE THIS IT HAS TO BE
10:08:18 UPDATED EVER SO OFTEN.
10:08:21 THE PAST ADMINISTRATION I BELIEVE UNDER MAYOR MARTINEZ
10:08:24 THAT THIS STARTED, THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:08:29 AND THEN PICKED UP LATER ON BY MANY OTHER MAYORS, BUT
10:08:32 SPECIAL THANK FOR MAYOR GRECO'S OFFICE THAT WE HAD A
10:08:36 CONVENTION CENTER FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME BUT NEVER
10:08:41 CONVENTION HOTELS AROUND IT AND MAYOR GRECO'S FORESIGHT
10:08:44 THAT HE LANDED THE MARRIOTT WATERSIDE AND LOOK AROUND
10:08:47 YOU NOW, THERE IS SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT THERE.
10:08:52 AND AGAIN FOR MAYOR GRECO FOR PLANNING -- EXPANDING $8
10:08:55 MILLION TO BRING THE CONVENTION CENTER MORE TO
10:08:58 REALISTIC STANDARDS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.
10:09:01 NOW UNA GARVEY IS BRINGING THIS.
10:09:04 AND I WANT TO THANK HER, THANK THE ADMINISTRATION THAT
10:09:06 WE HAVE, AND THANK THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK THERE.
10:09:10 HOWEVER, THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT WE HAVE NOT MET OUR
10:09:12 GOAL, IN MY OPINION.
10:09:19 MANY YEARS AGO, WE HAD 32 DOCKS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET
10:09:22 WATER-WISE ON THE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD WHERE PEOPLE HAD
10:09:23 BOATS.
10:09:25 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
10:09:29 WE -- I LEFT OFFICE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO DO
10:09:34 THAT AND DO THE PARK.
10:09:43 DOCKS WERE INSTALLED BUT ONE IN BAYSHORE WAS NOT AND
10:09:46 WAITING LIST FOR PEOPLE TO WANT TO HAVE THEIR BOATS AND
10:09:50 PAY A FEE TO HAVE THEIR BOATS THERE.
10:09:53 I DON'T LIKE THAT, BUT DOCKS PAY FOR THEMSELVES.
10:09:57 WHEN THEY HAVE A WAITING LIST AND THE WATERFRONT WE ARE
10:09:59 CREATING NOW AND PIECE BY PIECE TO MAKE IT ANOTHER
10:10:04 VENUE FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND ENJOY TAMPA.
10:10:04 I THINK IT IS NECESSARY.
10:10:08 LATER ON, I WILL BE ASKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO
10:10:08 REVIEW THAT.
10:10:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:10:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:14 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:10:17 ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE --
10:10:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, YES, SIR.
10:10:21 DINGFELDER.
10:10:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:10:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA, EXCELLENT
10:10:26 POINT.
10:10:31 I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN STAFF CAME AND SAID THAT THE
10:10:35 BAYSHORE DOCKS -- SAID THE BAYSHORE DOCKS WERE FALLING
10:10:35 APART.
10:10:38 I SAID -- I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
10:10:40 WHY DON'T WE REBUILD THEM.
10:10:42 AT THE TIME THE ADMINISTRATION SAID WE DON'T HAVE THE
10:10:44 MONEY TO DO IT.
10:10:47 I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
10:10:50 AND WILL SUPPORT YOUR MOTION ON THAT.
10:10:53 NOT A CONVENTION CENTER ISSUE BUT DEFINITELY A CITY
10:10:55 ISSUE WE NEED TO EXPLORE.
10:11:00 MISS GARVEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, CAROLE,
10:11:01 ETC.
10:11:04 LOOK LIKE GREAT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:11:07 MY QUESTION IS THIS -- AND MISS GARVEY, CAN YOU GO BACK
10:11:10 TO THE VERY FIRST SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE CONVENTION
10:11:16 CENTER FROM A DISTANCE.
10:11:22 IT IS LIKE YOUR INTRO SLIDE.
10:11:35 THERE WE GO.
10:11:36 OKAY.
10:11:41 SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I BROUGHT UP THIS ISSUE -- I DON'T
10:11:43 KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT.
10:11:47 MISS GARVEY, HOW MUCH -- WHAT IS YOUR ELECTRIC BILL
10:11:50 EVERY MONTH APPROXIMATELY GIVE OR TAKE WHEN YOU GUYS
10:11:53 ARE BUSY?
10:11:54 >> APPROXIMATELY $50,000.
10:11:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: $50,000 A MONTH.
10:11:58 $600,000 A YEAR.
10:12:00 AND LOOK AT THAT ROOF.
10:12:01 OKAY.
10:12:06 MISS GARVEY, HAVE WE IN RECENT YEARS DONE A STUDY OF
10:12:08 PUTTING SOLAR ON THE ROOF.
10:12:11 I KNOW THE QUESTION HAS COME UP REPEATEDLY AS CITY
10:12:11 COUNCIL.
10:12:14 I KNOW IT IS AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION, BUT I THINK
10:12:18 THESE DAYS WITH SOLAR IMPROVING IN TERMS OF
10:12:23 TECHNOLOGICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY, WE HAVE GOT A
10:12:25 TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY ON THAT ROOF FOR SOLAR POWER.
10:12:28 WE ARE THE SUNSHINE STATE.
10:12:31 AND I THINK IT WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR ELECTRIC BILL.
10:12:35 HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT IN RECENT YEARS, MISS GARVEY?
10:12:38 >> ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WE HAVE LOOKED AT
10:12:40 IT IN RECENT MONTHS.
10:12:46 WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF WIT RAMER AS THE SUSTAINABILITY
10:12:48 OFFICER FOR THE CITY.
10:12:50 WE HAVE BEEN PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO ALL OF THE
10:12:52 SUSTAINABILITY OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL BE PRESENTED.
10:12:57 WE ALSO ARE GOING AFTER A LEED CERTIFICATION THAT IS
10:13:02 CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE HVAC
10:13:07 COMPONENTS THAT WILL DRIVE DOWN THAT BILL ALSO.
10:13:10 WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS IN
10:13:11 OUR ORGANIZATION.
10:13:15 SO THAT IS RIGHT AT THE TOP OF OUR LINE ITEMS OF
10:13:16 CONVERSATION.
10:13:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
10:13:19 MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THE END OF THE MEETING, I AM GOING TO
10:13:24 MAKE A MOTION TO ASK FOR A STAFF REPORT FROM -- FROM
10:13:28 WIT, AS WELL FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER SPECIFICALLY ON
10:13:30 THAT ISSUE.
10:13:33 I THINK EVERY DAY THAT WE GO BY IS A MISSED
10:13:33 OPPORTUNITY.
10:13:37 MISS GARVEY, YOU KNOW I AM NOT CRITICIZING NEW THAT
10:13:38 REGARD.
10:13:39 THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS.
10:13:42 I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND WE ARE LUCKY FOR
10:13:44 ALL THE YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN HERE.
10:13:45 THANK YOU.
10:13:47 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:13:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:13:49 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:13:50 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:13:55 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO -- TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 19.
10:13:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:13:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:14:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND
10:14:04 FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:14:05 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:14:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:14:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:14:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:14:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:14:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:14:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:14:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:14:25 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:14:27 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:14:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:30 OKAY.
10:14:34 THE ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION THAT WE MOVED
10:14:38 TO THE BACK HERE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:14:43 ISN'T THAT RIGHT ORDER AND GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 2.
10:14:43 3.
10:14:47 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:14:51 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
10:14:54 ITEM 2 IS RELATED TO FIRST READING FOR CONSIDERATION
10:15:01 FOR EXTENSION OF THE NO FEE ZONE IN TWO DIFFERENT --
10:15:04 FOR NO FEE ZONE FOR THE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION
10:15:08 IMPACT FEES AND TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
10:15:12 ONE IS YBOR CITY IMPACT FEE DISTRICT AND THE OTHER IS
10:15:15 THE EAST TAMPA IMPACT FEE DISTRICT.
10:15:20 MAPS FOR BOTH OF THESE WERE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA
10:15:25 PACKET; HOWEVER, I AM NOT SURE IF WE CAN BRING THOSE UP
10:15:26 AS WELL.
10:15:29 I E-MAILED THOSE EARLIER.
10:15:30 THERE YOU GO.
10:15:31 PERFECT.
10:15:34 AND SO THAT'S -- THAT IS THE YBOR CITY IMPACT FEE
10:15:38 DISTRICT AND WE ALSO HAVE THE EAST TAMPA.
10:15:41 WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE EXTENSION OF THE NO FEE ZONE
10:15:48 BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE AREAS STILL HAVE PARTS THAT
10:15:50 EXPERIENCE BLIGHT.
10:15:54 AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT IN
10:15:55 THESE AREAS.
10:16:01 WE ALSO COORDINATED WITH THE CRAS AND THE CRAS ARE
10:16:05 WILLING TO WORK WITH US AND PROVIDE ANY NECESSARY
10:16:09 IMPROVEMENTS IN PARTNERSHIP AS WELL.
10:16:15 IN THE YBOR DISTRICT, A PARTICULAR CONCERN OR FOCUS IS
10:16:19 -- ARE THE AREAS SOUTH OF FOURTH AVENUE AND EAST OF
10:16:21 22ND STREET GENERALLY.
10:16:26 THESE AREAS ARE STILL NOT DEVELOPED TO THE EXTENT THAT
10:16:27 THEY CAN BE.
10:16:29 AND THEY STILL HAVE POTENTIAL.
10:16:33 SO THIS BECOMES AN INCENTIVE AND THE SAME APPLIES FOR
10:16:36 THE EAST TAMPA AREA AS WELL.
10:16:41 SO AT THIS POINT, I AM HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:16:43 FOR CLARIFICATION.
10:16:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:16:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:16:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:16:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S STARTS WITH THE EAST TAMPA.
10:16:55 CAN YOU PULL UP -- CAN YOU TIGHTEN IN ON THE MAP FOR
10:16:58 EAST TAMPA?
10:17:02 VIK -- I DON'T KNOW WHO IS CONTROLLING THAT SCREEN, IS
10:17:07 IT YOU, VI K?
10:17:10 >> THERE IT IS.
10:17:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:17:13 LET ME MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, I AM TOTALLY
10:17:18 SUPPORTIVE OF THIS -- OF THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE TO
10:17:22 EXTEND INCENTIVES FOR EAST TAMPA.
10:17:25 WHAT I THINK OF TRADITIONALLY OF EAST TAMPA WHICH IS
10:17:28 EVERYTHING ABOVE -- ABOVE I-4 AND EVERYTHING TO IT THE
10:17:32 EAST OF 275.
10:17:36 BUT BEFORE I GET INTO MY QUESTIONS, VIK, CAN YOU BACK
10:17:38 UP A LITTLE BIT AND EXPLAIN.
10:17:41 LOOKS LIKE THE MULTIMODAL FEE CAME IN.
10:17:43 THE MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE.
10:17:44 I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED.
10:17:48 CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL WHAT THE OVERALL PURPOSE IS
10:17:52 OF THE MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE.
10:17:56 WHY ARE WE -- WHY WAS IT ADOPTED -- LOOKS LIKE 2015
10:17:57 ORIGINALLY.
10:18:01 WHY WAS IT ADOPTED AND WHY WAS IT THERE?
10:18:03 >> SURE, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:18:08 AND A FEW YEARS AGO, WE -- WE MOVED FROM THE IMPACT FEE
10:18:13 TO A MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE, PARTICULARLY TO FOCUS ON
10:18:16 THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY DEVELOPMENT RELATED
10:18:22 IMPACTS THAT NEED TO BE MITIGATED BY DEVELOPERS SHOULD
10:18:28 FOCUS BEYOND JUST ROADWAY BUT DIFFERENT ROADWAY USER
10:18:30 TYPES WITHIN THE FACILITY.
10:18:35 AND SO BY MAKING IT A MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE, WE ARE
10:18:38 ABLE TO INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, LIGHTING
10:18:40 IMPROVEMENT, AND SUCH.
10:18:44 THIS WAS, AGAIN, DONE A FEW YEARS BACK.
10:18:49 TYPICALLY, THESE IMPACT FEES ARE THE -- ARE THE
10:18:54 EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE FOR A MAXIMUM OF FIVE
10:18:57 YEARS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHAT WE
10:19:01 ARE ASKING FOR, BOTH IN THE YBOR AND EAST TAMPA AREAS
10:19:04 AFTER COORDINATING WITH THE CRAS AND OTHER
10:19:05 STAKEHOLDERS.
10:19:11 THE HIGHWAY OF THE IMPACT FEE IN GENERAL IS TO MITIGATE
10:19:14 IMPACTS OF NEWER DEVELOPMENT, IT BE IN TERMS OF
10:19:18 CAPACITY, BE IN THIS IN TERMS OF FOOTPRINT.
10:19:21 GOING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TRIPS TO THAT FACILITY,
10:19:26 AND IF THE CURRENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM CANNOT SUPPORT
10:19:34 THOSE TRIPS, THEN THESE IMPACT FEES ARE COLLECTED.
10:19:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHAT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON EAST
10:19:37 TAMPA.
10:19:40 AND LET ME RESTATE WHAT I SAID A MINUTE AGO.
10:19:44 I AM TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF 90% OF THE MAP OFF THIS UP
10:19:47 HERE BECAUSE EAST TAMPA NEEDS INCENTIVES FOR NEW
10:19:47 DEVELOPMENT.
10:19:51 AND THIS IS A GOOD INCENTIVE, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE
10:19:53 WAIVING THE FEES.
10:20:00 BUT THE PORTION -- THE LITTLE TAIL DOWN THERE, IN THE
10:20:07 LOWER CORNER, IT -- IT INCLUDES THAT NUCCIO -- WHAT ARE
10:20:11 THOSE APARTMENTS THEY ARE GETTING READY TO TEAR DOWN
10:20:13 OFF OF NUCCIO?
10:20:16 IT LOOKS LIKE IT INCLUDES WHAT USED TO BE CENTRAL --
10:20:18 CENTRAL PARK WHICH IS NOW ENCORE.
10:20:22 AND THERE IS -- THERE IS NOW SOME -- YOU KNOW A LOT OF
10:20:26 PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT IN ENCORE AND NOW PRIVATE DEVELOP IN
10:20:27 ENCORE.
10:20:30 SO THE CENTRAL EAST -- I BELIEVE THIS IS THE CENTRAL
10:20:40 EAST MULTIMODAL ZONE WHEN I LOOK AT CHAPTER 25-71.
10:20:45 I REALLY DON'T SEE THE POINT OF EXCLUDING THAT --
10:20:47 EXCLUDING THAT LITTLE TAIL.
10:20:50 IN OTHER WORDS, THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LOOKING TO
10:20:55 REDEVELOP IN THAT LITTLE TAIL AREA, THEY DON'T NEED
10:20:55 INCENTIVES.
10:20:59 WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS TO BE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.
10:21:02 IF THEY DON'T -- IF THEY DON'T PAY INTO THE MULTIMODAL
10:21:08 FEE, OFF PROJECT THAT NEEDS MULTIMODAL MONEY, THE
10:21:12 GENERAL TAXPAYER FROM THAT -- FROM THAT SAME DISTRICT
10:21:18 HAS TO PICK UP -- PICK UP THE BALL AND PAY FOR THOSE
10:21:22 IMPROVEMENTS, EITHER LOCAL OR FEDERAL MONEY.
10:21:26 WHY SHOULDN'T THE DEVELOPER IN THAT LITTLE TAIL AREA,
10:21:29 WHY SHOULDN'T THOSE DEVELOPERS PAY THEIR FULL SHARE OF
10:21:35 MULTIMODAL?
10:21:37 HELLO?
10:21:42 >> YEAH, COUNCILMAN, WE -- WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE IMPACT
10:21:44 FEE ZONE.
10:21:46 AND IF THERE ARE AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY AND IMPROVEMENT
10:21:53 AND, YOU KNOW, AS YOU POINTED OUT NORTH OF THE
10:21:58 INTERSTATE OR I-4 RATHER, THERE ARE MANY AREAS WHERE WE
10:22:00 DO WANT TO INCENTIVIZE.
10:22:04 SINCE THIS IS ALL PART OF ONE ZONE, WE ARE CONSIDERING
10:22:07 THE NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE ZONE.
10:22:13 AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE IMPACT FEES BE -- THE
10:22:19 NO IMPACT FEE -- BE EXTENDED FOR FIVE MONTHS.
10:22:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:22:24 BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY, WE COULD RE-- AND
10:22:26 LEGAL CAN HELP ME OUT ON THIS.
10:22:30 BUT WITH THE STROKE -- A QUICK STROKE OF THE PEN, WE
10:22:32 CAN REDRAFT THIS -- THIS DISTRICT.
10:22:35 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ALL OR NONE.
10:22:38 BECAUSE WHAT I AM -- WHAT I AM SEEING HERE IS IT IS
10:22:42 VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT THE CITY AND THAT DISTRICT, THAT
10:22:46 SPECIFIC MULTIMODAL DISTRICT WOULD BE LOSING OUT ON
10:22:52 POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF MULTIMODAL FEES TO
10:22:55 HELP US MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.
10:22:59 VIK, I KNOW I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT IS GOING ON,
10:23:01 BECAUSE YOU TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:23:05 BUT RIGHT THROUGH THAT LITTLE TAIL DOWN THERE BY
10:23:10 NUCCIO, YOU HAVE GOT TWO MAJOR PROJECTS COMING THROUGH
10:23:10 THERE.
10:23:15 YOU HAVE THE GREEN -- YOUR GREEN -- WHAT DO YOU CALL
10:23:20 IT, THE GREEN ARTERY OR THE GREEN -- THE GREEN SPINE.
10:23:22 >> THE GREEN SPINE.
10:23:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE GREEN SPINE UP NUCCIO AND
10:23:27 REQUIRES A LOT OF MONEY.
10:23:34 AND EVEN MORE SO, YOU HAVE THE RE-- THE RE-ENGINEERING
10:23:36 OF THE TRACKS FOR THE TROLLEY.
10:23:38 I LOOKED ONLINE LAST NIGHT.
10:23:43 THAT IS, LIKE, 25 -- $25 MILLION OF LOCAL PUBLIC MONEY
10:23:47 THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.
10:23:51 IF TRANSPORTATION WAS A DONE DEAL, THEN WE WOULD HAVE
10:23:51 IT.
10:23:54 BUT WE KNOW THAT IS NOT A DONE DEAL.
10:23:57 THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY IN THAT LITTLE TAIL
10:24:02 AREA COULD HELP FUND BOTH OF THOSE MAJOR PROJECTS.
10:24:05 SO AT THE END -- AT THE END OF THESE QUESTIONS, I AM
10:24:09 GOING -- I AM GOING TO MOVE THAT WE REDRAW THIS MAP AND
10:24:13 LEAVE EAST TAMPA AS AN EXCEPTION AND AN EXCLUSIONARY
10:24:18 ZONE AND TAKE OFF THAT LITTLE TAIL THAT IS SOUTH --
10:24:19 SOUTH OF I-4.
10:24:23 VIK, CAN YOU GO TO THE.
10:24:24 GO TO THE OTHER MAP.
10:24:32 THE YBOR MAP?
10:24:38 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THIS IS MORRIS MASSEY, DEPUTY
10:24:39 CITY ATTORNEY.
10:24:42 I WANT TO CLASSIFY SOME THINGS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT
10:24:46 YBOR NEXT, BUT THE AREA THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,
10:24:50 JUST TO CLARIFY, THESE ARE INCLUDED WITH AN ESTABLISHED
10:24:51 CRA AS WELL.
10:24:53 THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:24:57 I THINK THE CENTRAL PARK CRA AND PERHAPS ANOTHER ONE.
10:25:01 BUT THEY ARE WITHIN REDEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT HAVE -- WE
10:25:05 HAVE RECOGNIZED SUFFER FROM SLUM AND BLIGHT CONDITIONS.
10:25:09 AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS EXCEPTION IS TO ATTRACT THE
10:25:11 TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE HOPE TO SEE COMING IN THESE
10:25:12 AREAS.
10:25:15 SO I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
10:25:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, MR. MASSEY, I AM GLAD YOU ARE
10:25:20 CHIMING IN.
10:25:23 COUNCIL, THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO REDRAW THAT MAP.
10:25:25 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL AND NONE.
10:25:27 IS THAT CORRECT?
10:25:30 >> ULTIMATELY YOUR -- THE EXEMPTION AREAS NEED TO BE
10:25:32 APPROVED BY COUNCIL ORDINANCE.
10:25:35 SO ULTIMATELY -- THE LEGISLATIVE ACT THAT REQUIRES
10:25:39 THESE EXEMPTIONS TO OCCUR, BUT WE HAVE BROUGHT THESE
10:25:43 FORWARD BASED ON THE BOUNDARIES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT
10:25:47 AREA AND MET THE SLUM AND BLIGHT, AND THE OTHER FACTORS
10:25:49 THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO LOOK AT IS WHETHER THE EXISTING
10:25:52 TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES OR ROADWAYS AND THINGS THAT
10:25:57 SERVE THOSE AREAS HAVE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY OR -- OR ARE
10:26:01 WITHIN A TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY AREA.
10:26:07 ALL OF THESE AREAS MEET THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE.
10:26:11 >> MR. DINGFELDER, THIS ANDREA ZELMAN, ASSISTANT DEPUTY
10:26:12 ATTORNEY.
10:26:13 IF I MAY JUMP IN.
10:26:17 AS A PHILOSOPHICAL THING, I WANT TO REMIND YOU WE
10:26:26 CREATE EXCEPTIONS LIKE EARNINGS AREAS TO -- EXEMPT FOR
10:26:27 DEVELOPERS TO JUMP IN.
10:26:31 A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM IF WE INCENTIVIZE A DEVELOPER TO
10:26:35 COME IN AND REDEVELOP THE AREA AND TURN AROUND AND SAY
10:26:37 OH, NOW THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPER INTERESTED IN THIS
10:26:39 PROPERTY, LET'S TURN AROUND AND TAKE SOME OF THE
10:26:43 INCENTIVES THAT ACTUALLY ATTRACTED THEM TO THAT AREA.
10:26:46 SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.
10:26:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:26:49 ALL RIGHT, THOSE ARE ALL WONDERFUL THOUGHTS, BUT THOSE
10:26:51 ARE POLICY DECISIONS.
10:26:54 THEY ARE NOT LEGAL -- THEY ARE NOT LEGAL DECISIONS.
10:26:56 THE -- HIRE IS THE THING.
10:26:58 OKAY.
10:27:04 THE SECOND PRONG THAT MR. MASSEY JUST DISCUSSED IS THAT
10:27:08 THOSE -- LET ME GET TO IT.
10:27:15 OKAY, I AM AT CHAPTER 25-74, PAREN 6.
10:27:17 THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY THAT THE AREA
10:27:20 SUFFERS FROM CHRONICALLY UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF
10:27:22 POVERTY, UNEMPLOYMENT, PHYSICAL DETERIORATION OR
10:27:26 ECONOMIC DISINVESTMENTS.
10:27:29 AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO PROVE THE SECOND PRONG.
10:27:33 AND THE SECOND PRONG IS THAT NO MULTIMODAL
10:27:37 TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE ZONE, THAT IT CONTAINS
10:27:40 SUFFICIENT EXCESS TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE
10:27:43 CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
10:27:43 OKAY.
10:27:48 I JUST IDENTIFIED TWO MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY
10:27:53 THE -- THE RETROFITTING OF THE -- OF THE TROLLEY LINE
10:27:57 THAT -- THAT WE ARE NOT -- WE DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
10:27:57 CAPACITY.
10:28:00 WE DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS.
10:28:03 AND THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THAT LITTLE TAIL AREA.
10:28:06 SO THAT IS MY POINT ON THAT.
10:28:10 AND WITH REGARD -- MISS ZELMAN, WITH REGARD TO SORT OF
10:28:13 A BAIT AND SWITCH ARGUMENT THAT YOU MADE.
10:28:16 THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT ONE IS, THAT THIS IS A
10:28:17 FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM.
10:28:19 THE FIVE YEARS HAVE ELAPSED.
10:28:21 EVERY FIVE YEARS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
10:28:25 YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, OH, WE ARE GOING TO REUP THIS EVERY
10:28:26 FIVE YEARS AUTOMATICALLY.
10:28:29 YOU HAVE TO REUP AND SEE WHAT THE CONDITIONS WERE.
10:28:30 YES, TRUST ME.
10:28:35 I TAUGHT AT BOOKER ARE T. WASHINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL MANY
10:28:36 YEARS AGO.
10:28:39 AN EXTREMELY SLUM AND BLIGHTED AREA THAT NEEDED A SHOT
10:28:42 IN THE ARM, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, DEVELOPERS ARE
10:28:45 CLAMORING TO COME IN THAT AREA, TO BUILD A BASEBALL
10:28:52 STADIUM, TO REDEVELOP, WHO KNOWS, PERHAPS A
10:28:54 TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT WOULD TAKE PEOPLE ON A
10:28:57 HIGH-SPEED RAIL ALL ACROSS THE STATE.
10:29:00 THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL GO IN THAT NUCCIO
10:29:01 CORRIDOR.
10:29:05 BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE
10:29:07 THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY INCENTIVIZED.
10:29:10 THEY ARE INCENTIVIZED BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB
10:29:13 OF DEVELOPING DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE THAT ALL THE
10:29:16 DEVELOPERS WANT TO BUILD AROUND IT.
10:29:20 BUT ANYWAY, THAT IS AS RELATED SOLELY TO THAT LITTLE
10:29:21 TAIL ON THE EAST TAMPA.
10:29:25 NOW LOOK AT THE -- IF EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT THE MAP
10:29:27 THAT IS IN FRONT OF US.
10:29:29 IF YOU CAN GO UP JUST A LITTLE MORE.
10:29:34 AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. BHIDE.
10:29:38 MR. BHIDE HAS BEEN VERY CONSISTENT WITH ME.
10:29:41 HE SAID WE NEED TO DO YBOR CITY BECAUSE SOUTH OF FOURTH
10:29:44 AVENUE WE NEED REDEVELOPMENT AND EAST OF 22ND STREET,
10:29:46 WE NEED REDEVELOPMENT.
10:29:52 I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY, MR. BHIDE, ON THAT.
10:29:55 THOSE ARE STILL THE DEPRESSED AREAS OF YBOR CITY, OKAY.
10:29:58 THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT NEED INCENTIVES.
10:30:02 OFF OF FOURTH AVENUE AND EAST OF 22ND STREET.
10:30:06 BUT THAT LEAVES ALMOST HALF OF YBOR CITY THAT IS
10:30:07 THRIVING.
10:30:11 I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO OWN A SINGLE LOT IN YBOR CITY
10:30:16 NONETHELESS A CITY BLOCK OF YBOR CITY THAT IS WORTH
10:30:19 MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT DOES NOT NEED
10:30:22 INCENTIVIZING.
10:30:26 AND WHAT WE NEED IS MULTIMODAL MONEY COMING OFF THESE
10:30:27 DEVELOPMENTS.
10:30:30 AGAIN, MY MOTION AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION IS
10:30:34 SPECIFICALLY GOING TO BE TO CARVE OUT -- LET'S BE A
10:30:37 LITTLE TIGHTER ON THESE MAPS, OKAY.
10:30:43 WE CAN INCENTIVIZE WITHOUT DOING A BLANKET APPROACH.
10:30:47 I HAVE TALKED ENOUGH, MR. BHIDE, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING
10:30:49 YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO.
10:30:51 YOU HAVE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT AND VERY HONEST WITH ME
10:30:55 AS ALWAYS TO TELL ME THAT IN YBOR CITY, SORT OF FOURTH
10:30:59 AVENUE AND EAST OF 22ND STREET ARE THE AREAS THAT NEED
10:31:00 INCENTIVES.
10:31:04 I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PROVIDE ME ANY -- ANY INFORMATION
10:31:08 OR EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE REMAINING QUADRANT
10:31:12 NORTH OF FOURTH AVENUE OR TO THE WEST OF 22ND.
10:31:17 I WILL -- I WILL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR ON THAT.
10:31:21 >> SO COUNCILMAN, WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE ZONE
10:31:25 AS DRAWN AND AS APPROVED BY PREVIOUS COUNCILS, BY
10:31:26 ORDINANCE.
10:31:29 AND WE LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES WHETHER THEY ARE STILL
10:31:32 OPPORTUNITIES AND THEY ARE -- FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
10:31:35 IF THERE ARE STILL AREAS OF BLIGHT.
10:31:39 AND EXAMINE THAT WHEN WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
10:31:45 AND AS I SAID, THIS WAS COORDINATED WITH OUR CRAS AND
10:31:49 THEY AGREED WITH WHAT WE ARE SEEING AS WELL.
10:31:51 AND THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE.
10:31:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:31:55 ALL RIGHT, WHAT IS THE AREA -- WHAT PART OF NORTH --
10:31:58 NORTH OF FOURTH AVENUE AND EAST OF -- WEST OF 22ND
10:32:00 STREET, WHAT PART OF THAT IS BLIGHTED?
10:32:04 BECAUSE I SURE AS HECK WANT A PIECE OF THAT.
10:32:09 >> SO MY POINT IS BECAUSE WITHIN THE YBOR AREA THERE
10:32:13 ARE SIGNIFICANT AREAS SOUTH OF FOURTH AVENUE AND EAST
10:32:16 OF 22ND THAT DO HAVE BLIGHT.
10:32:24 THIS ZONE THEN BECOMES THIS OUR MIND INELIGIBLE FOR THE
10:32:27 NO FEE EXTENSION AND CREATES AN INCENTIVE.
10:32:30 WE DON'T NECESSARILY BREAK THAT ZONE UP.
10:32:32 THAT ZONE IS DRAWN UP AS IT IS
10:32:35 >> THE HOTEL JUST THERE ON 7TH AVENUE.
10:32:37 THE HOTEL HYATT.
10:32:41 HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE LOSE BY HAVING THE MULTIMODAL
10:32:44 EXCEPTION THERE?
10:32:47 >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS ON THAT.
10:32:53 WE CAN CERTAINLY RESEARCH THAT AND PRESENT --
10:32:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU BALLPARK IT.
10:32:59 WAS IT A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND OF DOLLARS?
10:33:02 >> IT IS PROBABLY LESSER THAN THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A
10:33:06 GRID NETWORK PRESENT ALREADY BUT I THINK SO AS MUCH AS
10:33:12 AN ESTIMATES THAT HE CAN PROVIDE RIGHT NOW.
10:33:14 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, MORRIS MASSEY.
10:33:16 A COUPLE OF POINTS.
10:33:21 WE LOOK AT EVALUATING WHETHER WE RECOMMEND BRINGING
10:33:23 THESE EXEMPTIONS TO YOU AND WE LOOK AT THEM IN THEIR
10:33:24 ENTIRETY.
10:33:27 WE DON'T FOCUS PARCEL BY PARCEL.
10:33:30 WE LOOK AT PART -- PART OF THE CALCULUS.
10:33:35 THESE ARE ALL CRA AREAS AND SUFFER FROM SLUM AND BLIGHT
10:33:38 AND WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND THEY STILL
10:33:41 ARE IN OUR OPINION MEET THE CONDITION OF THE ORDINANCE.
10:33:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, BUT --
10:33:45 >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
10:33:47 CAPACITY -- GO AHEAD.
10:33:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
10:33:52 I AM NOT TALK BY BLOCK BY BLOCK.
10:33:56 THE AREA NORTH OF FOURTH AND WEST OF 22ND IS MORE THAN
10:34:01 100 BLOCKS OF ACTIVE, VIBRANT, ECONOMIC AREA WHERE
10:34:02 REDEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
10:34:05 IT DOESN'T NEED ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES.
10:34:11 WHAT WE NEED IS FRIENDS -- WE NEED PLANS FOR MULTIMODAL
10:34:12 IN THIS DISTRICT.
10:34:14 YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE DISTRICT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
10:34:15 HERE.
10:34:19 ISN'T IT THE CENTRAL EAST -- THE CENTRAL EAST DISTRICT,
10:34:21 VIK?
10:34:24 >> THIS IS THE -- THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
10:34:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS NOT CALLED "YBOR."
10:34:30 I AM LOOKING AT THE CODE AND THE CODE SPEAKS TO THE
10:34:33 CENTRAL -- THE CENTRAL EAST DISTRICT.
10:34:35 >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
10:34:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YBOR CITY MONEY -- MONEY THAT IS
10:34:44 GENERATED IN YBOR CITY CAN HELP NOT ONLY BUILD
10:34:49 MULTIMODAL STUFF IN YBOR CITY, BUT ALSO HELP IN EAST
10:34:50 TAMPA.
10:34:56 BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO THE CENTRAL EAST ZONE, CORRECT?
10:34:57 >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
10:34:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
10:34:59 ALL RIGHT.
10:35:04 I WILL OPEN IT UP AND I WILL SHUT UP FOR COUNCIL TO
10:35:05 CHIME IN.
10:35:07 >> MR. CHAIR --
10:35:11 >> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE SOMETHING.
10:35:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GUDES AND THEN CARLSON.
10:35:13 GO AHEAD.
10:35:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL PUT OUT TO THE
10:35:18 COUNCIL.
10:35:21 SINCE LISTENING TO MR. BHIDE -- HE CALLED ME OF
10:35:23 QUESTIONS I MIGHT ASK.
10:35:26 IF MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THIS CONTINUED AND STAFF CAN --
10:35:29 AND COUNCILMEMBERS WHO MAY ALSO HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS
10:35:32 AND NEXT EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THE MULTIMODAL, EXPLAIN
10:35:35 MORE OF THE IMPACT FEE COST AND WHAT DOES IT COST FOR
10:35:40 PROPERTY AND SO FORTH AND SO CONTINUE TO GIVE A GENERAL
10:35:43 IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE ORDINANCE IF COUNCIL IS
10:35:44 WILLING TO DO IT.
10:35:47 A CONTINUANCE -- AND MR. DINGFELDER HAS A LOT OF
10:35:50 QUESTIONS AND POSSIBLY IF THE COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE
10:35:53 THIS SO MOVE THE AGENDA, BECAUSE I HAVE ABOUT THREE OR
10:35:56 FOUR QUESTIONS AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE TIME.
10:35:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:36:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:36:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH MR. GUDES.
10:36:05 I WAS THINKING OF THE SAME THING.
10:36:07 THAT WAS ONE ITEM I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
10:36:12 THE OTHER ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BUILD A BASEBALL
10:36:13 STADIUM.
10:36:16 YOU ARE WELCOMED TO DO.BUT BRING YOUR OWN MONEY.
10:36:19 >> REAL QUICK, HARRIS MASSEY.
10:36:22 WANT YOU TO KNOW THESE EXEMPTIONS EXPIRE OCTOBER 1,
10:36:24 THIS IS THE REASON WE ARE ASKING TO YOU MOVE ON THEM AT
10:36:25 THIS POINT IN TIME.
10:36:27 THE OTHER THING REAL QUICKLY.
10:36:30 THE CRITERIA -- IF WE CONTINUE IT, THEN THESE
10:36:32 EXEMPTIONS WILL EXPIRE.
10:36:38 SO THAT -- THAT IS -- THEY EXPIRE OCTOBER 20.
10:36:38 SO --
10:36:42 >> MR. CHAIR --
10:36:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:36:45 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:36:50 I JUST WANT TO SAY -- AND NO REFLECTION ON MR. BHIDE,
10:36:51 THIS IS A LARGER DISCUSSION WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS
10:36:55 AND THE CITY, I THINK THAT -- I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST
10:36:57 THIS.
10:37:01 IT DOESN'T -- DOES THIS HELP THE PEOPLE OF THE AREAS.
10:37:03 DOES IT HELP THE PEOPLE OF EAST TAMPA.
10:37:06 DOES IT HELP THE PEOPLE OF YBOR CITY, AND THE ANSWER IS
10:37:07 NO.
10:37:09 IN EAST TAMPA IN PARTICULAR, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT
10:37:11 GENTRIFICATION.
10:37:14 IN YBOR -- I KNOW MY OTHER OFFICE IS IN YBOR.
10:37:17 YBOR IS DEVELOPING VERY WELL AND THE PARTS THAT YOU ARE
10:37:19 TALKING ABOUT WILL DEVELOP IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
10:37:21 LIKE CHANNELSIDE TEN YEARS AGO.
10:37:24 EVERYBODY IS WAITING TO SEE WHO WILL GO FIRST.
10:37:26 AND ALL THAT IS GOING TO DEVELOP.
10:37:28 WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THOSE DISTRICTS NEED IS MOBILITY
10:37:31 OPTIONS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY NEED OPPORTUNITIES
10:37:35 FOR ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP.
10:37:40 I HAVE TAKEN TOURS OF THE EMPTY SPACES IN YBOR CITY.
10:37:43 ALL THIS IS NOT MISS SOMETHING DEVELOPERS BUT TENANTS.
10:37:46 WHAT IS MISSING IN YBOR CITY IS TENANTS.
10:37:49 WHY DON'T WE HAVE TENANTS.
10:37:52 ENCOURAGE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT TO ENCOURAGE JOBS IN THE
10:37:53 COMMUNITY.
10:37:56 WHAT THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF IS A OLD SCHOOL WAY OF
10:37:58 LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:38:00 THE OLD SCHOOL WAY IS REAL ESTATE FOCUSED.
10:38:03 WHERE REAL ESTATE IS THE GOAL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:38:05 AND, AGAIN, WE CAN'T USE THAT AS THE GOAL.
10:38:08 WE WANT TO WELCOME REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND HELP
10:38:09 REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS.
10:38:11 NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THEM.
10:38:14 BUT WHY SHOULD WE GIVE INTENSIVES IN ONE AREA AND NOT
10:38:15 THE OTHER.
10:38:19 IT IS NOT FAIR FOR DEVELOPERS AROUND THE CITY.
10:38:21 WHAT WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE BUILDING
10:38:24 COMMUNITY IS THAT SOME POLICIES LIKE THIS SEEM
10:38:28 ARBITRARY WHERE THEY HELP SOME PEOPLE AND DON'T HELP
10:38:29 OTHERS.
10:38:33 WE NEED TO PROMOTE ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP AND THINK OF
10:38:36 EAST TAMPA IN PARTICULAR AS A -- AS A VALUABLE PLACE IN
10:38:37 OUR COMMUNITIES.
10:38:40 WE NEED TO STOP THINKING OF IT AS A PLACE WHERE CHEAP
10:38:44 LAND WHERE WE CAN INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOP
10:38:44 IT.
10:38:49 THE PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA DON'T WANT TO BE GENTRIFY OUT.
10:38:53 THEY WANT US TO HELP THEM WITH AMENITIES TO IMPROVE
10:38:53 QUALITY OF LIFE.
10:38:56 THEY WANT TO HELP THEM WITH SERVICES TO HELP BUILD AND
10:38:57 GROW BUSINESSES.
10:38:58 THE SAME THING IN YBOR CITY.
10:39:00 THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE NEED AT ALL.
10:39:04 I THINK THIS WILL WORK AGAINST OUR OBJECTIVES WHICH IS
10:39:08 TO TRY TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF THOSE AREAS, THANK YOU.
10:39:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:39:12 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:39:13 ANYBODY ELSE.
10:39:18 SO MORRIS MASSEY DID STATE THAT THERE WAS A -- A TIME
10:39:21 CONSTRAINT ON THIS, BUT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD
10:39:22 A MOTION.
10:39:24 OR WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION.
10:39:28 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DISCUSSION WAS GOING.
10:39:33 >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND -- IF YOU CAN PUT THAT MAP UP
10:39:48 BECAUSE I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MAPS WITH MY MOTION.
10:39:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHARLESTON, I APPRECIATE YOUR
10:39:55 COMMENTS AND I AM -- MR. CARLSON, I APPRECIATE YOUR
10:39:58 COMMENTS AND I AM NOT THRILLED OF THE OVERALL PLAN, BUT
10:40:01 EAST TAMPA COULD USE -- USE ALL THE INCENTIVES
10:40:05 AVAILABLE IN OUR BAG OF TRICKS, WHETHER OR NOT IT IS --
10:40:10 THIS PROGRAM IS NOT SPECIFICS TO SINGLE FAMILY
10:40:11 RESIDENTIAL.
10:40:14 IT REALLY SPEAKS TO ALL CONSTRUCTION.
10:40:17 SO I THINK -- IN EAST TAMPA, WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE AND
10:40:21 INCENTIVIZE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND NEW DEVELOPMENT
10:40:24 HOWEVER WE CAN.
10:40:25 BUT YOU MIGHT DIFFER WITH THAT.
10:40:27 AND THAT IS FINE.
10:40:28 AND I UNDERSTAND.
10:40:32 SINCE THE YBOR MAP IS UP RIGHT NOW, MY MOTION IS TO --
10:40:37 IS TO APPROVE THE ITEM, BUT ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WITH
10:40:40 THE REVISED MAP.
10:40:45 AND THAT MAP WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF YBOR CITY AS THEY
10:40:49 HAVE SHOWN IT EXCEPT FOR THE AREA NORTH OF FOURTH
10:40:50 AVENUE.
10:40:53 AND EAST OF 22ND STREET.
10:40:57 AND, AGAIN, I SAY THAT BASED UPON TEXT MESSAGES AND THE
10:41:03 COMMENTS OF MR. BHIDE, WHICH HE HAD STRESSED TO ME THAT
10:41:07 THE AREAS SOUTH OF FOURTH AND AREA EAST OF 22ND ARE THE
10:41:10 AREAS THAT NEED INCENTIVES.
10:41:13 WELL, IF THE OTHER AREAS THAT I HAVE CARVED OUT NORTH
10:41:18 OF FOURTH AND WEST OF 22ND DON'T NEED THE INCENTIVES,
10:41:20 THEN WE SHOULDN'T GIVE IT TO THEM.
10:41:21 IT IS FREE MONEY.
10:41:22 IT IS FREE MONEY.
10:41:24 IT IS NOT WARRANTED.
10:41:26 AND FRANKLY, IT HURTS THE ENTIRE CITY.
10:41:28 IT HURTS THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
10:41:32 AND SPECIFICALLY, IT HURTS THE RESIDENTS OF THE REST OF
10:41:35 EAST TAMPA AND YBOR CITY, BECAUSE WE ARE GIVING THE
10:41:38 DEVELOPERS THIS GREAT INCENTIVE THAT AMOUNTS TO
10:41:41 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR.
10:41:44 AND -- AND WHERE DOES THAT -- SO IF WE DO THAT, WHERE
10:41:47 DOES THE MONEY FOR MULTIMODAL COME FROM?
10:41:49 IT COMES FROM THE GENERAL TAXPAYERS.
10:41:51 AND THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
10:41:52 THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
10:41:55 MY MOTION -- I AM GOING TO DO IT IN TWO SEPARATE
10:41:56 MOTIONS.
10:42:01 BUT MY MOTION ON THIS ONE FOR YBOR CITY IS TO -- IS TO
10:42:04 ELIMINATE THE MULTIMODAL EXCLUSION ZONE FORTH OF FOURTH
10:42:12 AND WEST OF 22ND.
10:42:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:42:14 DINGFELDER.
10:42:18 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:42:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN --
10:42:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:42:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE ARE OF A TIME RESTRAINT,
10:42:28 BUT I BELIEVE THAT, AGAIN, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE
10:42:32 CONTINUED -- WE HAVE TIME -- I THINK THESE UNTIL THE
10:42:36 20TH OR 29TH BEFORE THIS HAS TO BE DONE.
10:42:38 I THINK COUNCILMEMBERS STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND
10:42:41 MAYBE THINGS CAN BE BROUGHT BACK AND IMPLEMENTED BEFORE
10:42:44 WE ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS ITEM.
10:42:46 I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I JUST BELIEVE
10:42:50 THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED FOR -- FOR A FEW MORE
10:42:53 QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:42:56 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY -- VIERA.
10:42:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:43:01 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL AGREE AND I VERY WELL IN THE END
10:43:04 MAY VOTE FOR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION.
10:43:05 TWO THINGS.
10:43:08 NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC ISSUE WITH THE
10:43:12 ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP, I BRING SPECIAL DEFERENCE
10:43:18 FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS CITY
10:43:21 CITYWIDE AND REPRESENT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND COUNCILMAN
10:43:23 DINGFELDER THAT IS CITYWIDE.
10:43:26 IN MY BOOK WHEN A REQUEST IS MADE ON SOMETHING LIKE
10:43:31 THIS FROM THE DISTRICT COUNCILMEMBER, I HAVE GIVE
10:43:37 MODERN DEFERENCE.
10:43:40 AND I THINK WE NEED ANOTHER WEEK OR SO IF THAT IS ABLE
10:43:45 TO BE DONE.
10:43:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GENTLEMEN, I SUPPORT -- I SUPPORT
10:43:48 YOU COMPLETELY.
10:43:51 AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE WITH THE CONTINUANCE, IT IS
10:43:55 JUST THAT MR. MASSEY JUMPED IN AND SAID THAT WE HAVE
10:43:59 THIS OTHER ORDINANCE THAT IS LAPSING.
10:44:03 YADA, YADA, YADA AND WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND WE
10:44:07 DIDN'T PUT OURSELVES IN TERMS OF TIME AND THIS POPPED
10:44:11 UP ON OUR AGENDA AND KIND OF LIKE, HEY, YOU NEED TO
10:44:14 APPROVE THIS AND YOU NEED TO APPROVE EVERY PART OF IT
10:44:15 JUST LIKE THEY DID FIVE YEARS AGO.
10:44:20 BUT IF WE ASK QUESTIONS, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET PUSH
10:44:28 BACK AND SHOVED INTO A TIME CORNER.
10:44:30 I AM OKAY WITH THE CONTINUANCE.
10:44:32 DOESN'T MATTER THAT IT LAPSED FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND
10:44:36 IT MEANS THAT THE DEVELOPER CANNOT COME IN AND ASK FOR
10:44:39 ANY FEW WEEKS THAT IT LAPSED.
10:44:42 OTHER THAN THAT, I AM FINE -- I AM FINE WITH THE
10:44:45 CONTINUANCE, BUT I WILL ASSURE YOU THAT YOU CAN NOW GET
10:44:49 TONS OF PHONE CALLS FROM, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS IN THOSE
10:44:55 -- IN THOSE AREAS OF YBOR CITY, YOU KNOW, WHO FEEL LIKE
10:44:59 THEY DESERVE THOSE INCENTIVE PACKAGES.
10:45:03 EXPECT THOSE PHONE CALLS TO BE COMING, GENTLEMEN.
10:45:05 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY?
10:45:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:45:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:21 AS A REFORM RECOVERING YCDB MEMBER, I CAN POINT OUT
10:45:25 PARTS OF YBOR CITY IN THE WEST END THAT IN MY OPINION
10:45:26 NEED THIS.
10:45:31 I CAN POINT OUT PLACES EAST OF 22ND AND BETWEEN 22ND
10:45:33 AND 26TH THAT NEED THIS.
10:45:37 HOWEVER, I AM UNDER THE SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN GUDES,
10:45:40 EVEN THOUGH THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE, SO I CAN TALK
10:45:46 FURTHER WITH MR. VIK BHIDE ABOUT THIS.
10:45:49 I WOULD SUPPORT POSTPONING IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
10:45:50 >> MR. CHAIR.
10:45:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:45:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL SUPPORT POSTPONING IT TOO.
10:45:58 I WOULD PREFER THAT WE JUST KILL IT.
10:46:01 WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO THINK OF A
10:46:03 DIFFERENT MODEL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:46:07 WE NEED TO BE -- THE PLANS OF THE PAST WHERE WE --
10:46:10 WHERE FLORIDA GOVERNMENT SOLD THEMSELVES SHORT BY
10:46:14 LOWERING TAXES AND INCENTIVIZING DEVELOPERS DOESN'T
10:46:15 WORK.
10:46:19 WHAT WORKS IS TRYING TO FIND THE TENANTS FOR THOSE --
10:46:21 FOR THOSE BUILDING.
10:46:24 THE PROBLEM IS THE SHORTAGE OF BUILDINGS IN ANY OF
10:46:25 THESE PLACES.
10:46:29 THE SHORTAGE IS A SHORTAGE OF TENANTS AND WE DON'T GET
10:46:33 THAT BY INCENTIVIZING AND PAYING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
10:46:34 FOR SOMEONE TO MOVE FROM NEW YORK.
10:46:36 WE BUILD THEM LOCALLY.
10:46:40 WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON HOW TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF OUR
10:46:43 COMMUNITY AND GET OUT OF THE MIND SET THAT REAL ESTATE
10:46:46 DEVELOPMENT IS OUR MEASURE FOR SUCCESS OR A MEASURE FOR
10:46:47 ECONOMIC GROWTH.
10:46:47 IT ISN'T.
10:46:50 AND I AM SURE SOME DEVELOPERS IN THIS AREA WOULD LIKE
10:46:53 THIS BUT DEVELOPERS THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CITY WHO
10:46:54 WOULD LOVE THIS TOO.
10:46:56 AND WE NEED TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY AND NOT PLAY
10:46:57 FAVORITES.
10:46:59 THANK YOU.
10:47:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:47:02 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:47:04 >> MORRIS MASSEY REAL QUICKLY.
10:47:08 I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE COUNCIL VOTES.
10:47:11 IF YOU DELAY THIS, THERE WILL BE A LAPSE IN THE ZONE.
10:47:15 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CLEAR ON THE RECORD
10:47:16 BEFORE YOU VOTE, OKAY.
10:47:19 OTHERWISE WE WILL BRING IT BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS
10:47:21 WHEN YOU DECIDE TO TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER.
10:47:22 THANK YOU.
10:47:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MASSEY, A QUICK QUESTION.
10:47:29 A LAPSE IN THE ORDINANCE.
10:47:32 NOT LIKE A CRIMINAL ORDINANCE WHERE YOU WILL BE VERY,
10:47:34 VERY AFRAID TO HAVE A LAPS.
10:47:38 WHAT IS THE REAL IMPACT OF A LAPSE OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS
10:47:39 IN THIS ORDINANCE?
10:47:42 >> THE ISSUE WOULD BE IF SOMEONE COMES IN FOR
10:47:44 PERMITTING IN THE INTERIM BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THE
10:47:47 ORDINANCE IS IN EFFECT AND BY THE TIME YOU MAKE -- WE
10:47:50 DECIDE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO OF THE NO IMPACT FEE
10:47:57 ZONE, THEY COULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE STRANGELY, YOU
10:48:00 KNOW, DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THEIR OTHER NEIGHBORING
10:48:05 PROJECTS AND DEVELOPERS, ME MAY HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES
10:48:08 WHERE NOBODY HELLS -- IT BECOMES KIND OF AN EQUITY
10:48:08 ISSUE, PERHAPS.
10:48:10 THAT IS THE CONCERN.
10:48:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE A HEADS UP
10:48:15 WHEN THEY COME IN THAT IS THE CASE RIGHT NOW.
10:48:16 THAT'S ALL.
10:48:19 >> I THINK WHAT HE IS SAYING SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT
10:48:23 YOU DO WANT TO EXEMPT WILL BE SUBJECT TO PAYMENT OF THE
10:48:29 MULTIMODAL FEE DURING THIS INTERIM PERIOD OF TIME.
10:48:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IF WE ARE TALKING -- TALKING
10:48:35 ABOUT A FEW WEEKS, IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
10:48:38 >> YOU KNOW, IT IS ACTUALLY -- IF THEY APPLIED DURING
10:48:40 THAT TIME FRAME, THEY ARE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE
10:48:43 MULTIMODAL FEE.
10:48:47 >> IMPACT FEE IS MADE AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
10:48:50 THAT IS THE CRITICAL POINT IN A PROJECT WHERE THE
10:48:52 DETERMINATION IS MADE.
10:48:55 >> MORRIS, POSSIBLE TO BACK DATE IT APPROVED IN A MONTH
10:48:59 -- I HOPE IT IS NOT APPROVED AT ALL, IF WE APPROVE IT
10:49:06 IS IT POSSIBLE TO BACK DATE IT TO TODAY?
10:49:08 >> THE ISSUE THOUGH -- IT WOULD -- IT WOULD BE
10:49:11 PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THE PERMIT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN
10:49:14 ISSUED AND A DETERMINATION MADE IN THE TIME OF
10:49:22 PERMITTING, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SO THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
10:49:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?
10:49:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:49:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:49:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND THAT LEGAL TRIES TO
10:49:33 PROTECT AT ALL COST, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD
10:49:35 AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
10:49:38 I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
10:49:41 I THINK THAT YOU CAN -- I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T THINK
10:49:44 THERE IS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE LOOKING
10:49:46 THE IMPACT FEE RIGHT NOW.
10:49:47 MAY BE A COUPLE.
10:49:48 I DON'T THINK IT IS A TOTAL.
10:49:52 SO WE COULD STAND -- OF THOSE FOLKS TURN OUT TO BE
10:49:54 LONGER THAN USUAL AT THE TIME FRAME.
10:49:56 BUT, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
10:49:59 TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL STAFF HAS MET WITH EACH
10:50:03 COUNCILMEMBER TO LOOK AT THE IDEAS AND CHANGE TO BRING
10:50:05 BACK FOR A VOTE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, SIR.
10:50:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY --
10:50:09 >> EXCUSE US.
10:50:10 >> MORRIS MASSEY.
10:50:12 ONE OTHER SUGGESTION.
10:50:17 I MEAN, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO -- SO THERE IS NO LAPSE,
10:50:20 APPROVE THIS ON FIRST READING WITH THE DIRECTION FOR US
10:50:27 TO LOOK AT BONA FIDE THE MAPS OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
10:50:29 SUGGESTION AND BRING THAT BACK IN A SHORT PERIOD OF
10:50:32 TIME AND HAVE A FURTHER PRESENTATION AND CONVERSATION
10:50:36 WITH COUNCILMEMBERS OF THE PURPOSE OF THE NO IMPACT
10:50:40 FEES AS WELL SO IT IS CLEAR IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF
10:50:42 TIME WHAT -- MAKE SURE YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS
10:50:44 FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
10:50:45 THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION.
10:50:48 >> IN OTHER WORDS APPROVE THE MAPS AS IS, AND THEN COME
10:50:51 BACK AND POSSIBLY AMEND THE MAPS.
10:50:55 >> DIRECTION FOR US TO COME BACK WITHIN 30 DAYS.
10:50:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I LIKE YOUR IDEA, BUT LET'S ME
10:50:59 MODIFY IT SLIGHTLY.
10:51:02 MAYBE APPROVE THE -- APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST
10:51:06 READING BUT DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH -- WITH TWO
10:51:07 SETS OF MAPS.
10:51:08 OKAY.
10:51:11 AND THEN WE -- WE WOULD APPROVE -- WE WOULD DECIDE
10:51:15 WHICH MAP WE WOULD ATTACH ON SECOND READING.
10:51:20 WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE, MR. MASSEY, MISS ZELMAN?
10:51:22 LEGALLY?
10:51:23 LEGALLY?
10:51:25 >> LEGALLY.
10:51:28 WE ARE MAKING -- WE ARE MAKING IT MUCH SMALLER.
10:51:30 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT IS SUCH A DRAMATIC CHANGE
10:51:33 THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING, BUT THAT
10:51:37 IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AND ENTERTAIN.
10:51:40 THAT IS THE BETTER WAY TO DO THIS GIVEN YOUR POINT IN
10:51:41 TIME, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:51:43 I THINK THAT IS A GOOD SUGGESTION.
10:51:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GUDES, I THINK THAT
10:51:47 ACCOMPLISHES YOUR POINT BECAUSE SECOND READ
10:51:52 APPROXIMATING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, I WOULD ASSUME.
10:51:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS FINE -- THAT IS FINE ABOUT
10:51:56 THE MAPS, BUT I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS.
10:51:59 I AM SURE COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAVE QUESTIONS AND
10:52:01 ANYTHING THAT MAY BE ADDED AND DELETED FROM THE
10:52:02 ORDINANCE.
10:52:05 THE MAPS ARE FINE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A
10:52:07 DISCUSSION FURTHER DOWN THE LINE IN REFERENCE TO THIS
10:52:08 ORDINANCE.
10:52:12 SO I CAN -- I CAN AMEND THE MOTION IN REFERENCE TO A
10:52:14 SECOND READING, BRING IT BACK FOR A SECOND READING WITH
10:52:17 WHATEVER CHANGES WE MAY BE LOOKING TO MAKE ONCE STAFF
10:52:19 HAS MET WITH ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS TO SEE WHAT THEIR
10:52:21 IDEAS ARE TO BRING THAT BACK.
10:52:25 BUT I THINK LOOKING FOR MAYBE CHANGES HERE.
10:52:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
10:52:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
10:52:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I REMIND YOU, COUNCIL, THAT THIS
10:52:33 IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
10:52:36 THAT IS WHY IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA AS ITEM NUMBER 2, AND
10:52:37 THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARING.
10:52:40 THE ORDINANCE IS BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:52:42 CONSIDERATION.
10:52:45 IT IS BEING MOVED AND SET FOR A SECOND READING AND THIS
10:52:47 IS WHERE YOU WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:52:50 JUST A REMINDER, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU ONE SET OF
10:52:55 MAPS OR TWO SETS OF MAPS, FRANKLY THAT WILL REQUIRE
10:52:59 WHAT WOULD HAPPEN -- LEGAL ANALYSIS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
10:53:02 IF YOU SHRUNK THE AREA, IF THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT
10:53:02 CHANGE.
10:53:05 BECAUSE LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE MAPS -- AND MORRIS
10:53:08 WOULD AGREE, THAT THE MAPS ARE PART OF THIS ORDINANCE.
10:53:11 YOU CAN'T -- I MEAN THERE ARE THEY ARE -- YOU KNOW, IF
10:53:15 -- WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, YOU ARE, IN EFFECT,
10:53:18 HAVING THE MAPS ATTACHED TO IT UNLESS THEY ARE
10:53:20 SUBSTITUTED AND MAY BRING IT BACK TO FIRST READING AND
10:53:21 MAY NOT.
10:53:23 THAT IS A QUESTION FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:53:26 JUST A REMINDER THAT WHEN IT DOES COME BACK, IT WOULD
10:53:34 BE ON SECOND READING FOR AN ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING.
10:53:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
10:53:37 SHELBY.
10:53:39 >> MR. SHELBY IS CORRECT.
10:53:41 I WOULD ECHO EVERYTHING THAT HE JUST SAID TO YOU ALL
10:53:43 AND AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.
10:53:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PERFECT.
10:53:48 ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD MADE A MOTION
10:53:49 ORIGINALLY.
10:53:53 WHAT IS YOUR -- WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE HERE.
10:53:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MODIFY THE MOTION.
10:54:02 I WILL BE GLAD TO READ THE ORDINANCE FOR APPROVAL WITH
10:54:04 DIRECTION -- AND I HOPE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
10:54:07 MR. SHELBY AND MR. MASSEY SAID, WITH DIRECTION TO STAFF
10:54:11 TO BRING BACK TWO SETS -- TWO SETS OF MAPS.
10:54:14 THEY CAN BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL SET OF MAPS AS -- AS
10:54:18 PRESENT TODAY, AND ALSO -- AND THE MODIFIED MAPS AND
10:54:23 THE MODIFIED MAPS WOULD EXCLUDE IN THE EAST TAMPA MAP,
10:54:27 IT WOULD EXCLUDE THE LITTLE TAIL DOWN IN THE LOWER LEFT
10:54:33 CORNER -- LET'S SEE THE SOUTH -- THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
10:54:36 SOUTH OF -- SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE, I-4.
10:54:43 AND THEN ON THE -- ON THE YBOR MAP, IT WOULD EXCLUDE
10:54:49 EVERYTHING NORTH OF FOURTH AVENUE AND EVERYTHING WEST
10:54:52 OF 22ND STREET.
10:54:57 AND MR. -- MR. CITRO, I KNOW THERE IS A COUPLE LITTLE
10:55:02 POCKETS UP THERE, AND I GUESS -- IF YOU WANT TO
10:55:06 IDENTIFY THOSE BLOCKS OR ANYTHING THROUGH ON -- UP
10:55:16 THERE NEAR PALM IS WHERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT IF
10:55:21 YOU LOOK AT THE MAP INSIDE NUCCIO, I AM NOT SURE WHERE
10:55:25 YOU WERE REFERRING TO BUT I AM AMENABLE OF TWEAKING
10:55:28 THIS IF YOU WANT TO TWEAK IT OUT.
10:55:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:55:37 I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO VIK BHIDE AND IF I COULD AMEND
10:55:40 THE MOTION AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY.
10:55:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
10:55:44 I WILL LEAVE MY MOTION AS IT IS AND READ THE ORDINANCE
10:55:48 ACCORDINGLY WITH DIRECTION OF MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:55:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:55:50 YOU HAVE YOUR MOTION.
10:55:56 IT WILL BE A TWO-PART PIECE HERE.
10:55:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
10:56:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
10:56:04 MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
10:56:08 IS THIS READING THIS ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING TIED
10:56:14 TO AND PART OF THE -- OF THE MOTION OF COUNCILMAN
10:56:15 DINGFELDER?
10:56:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:56:19 I AM GOING TO MOVE IT FOR FIRST READING AND REQUEST
10:56:29 THAT STAFF BRING BACK EFFECTIVELY FOUR MAPS, INSTEAD OF
10:56:33 THE TWO MAPS THEY HAVE ATTACH, AND DECIDE AT SECOND
10:56:38 READING WHICH OF THE FOUR MAPS WE WANT TO GO WITH.
10:56:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:56:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE NUMBER
10:56:50 2020-8 CHAPTER 25, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED OF AN
10:56:55 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA EXTENDING YBOR CITY AND
10:56:59 CITY OF TAMPA NO FEE ZONE FOR MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEES
10:57:05 AND OTHER GENERAL CORRECTION AMENDING ARTICLE III,
10:57:09 TECHNICAL PROVISIONS EXHIBITS IV, NO MULTIMODAL
10:57:16 TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE ZONES OR, REPLACING MAPS 25 1
10:57:21 G AND 25 PROVIDE FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
10:57:26 PROVIDING SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
10:57:29 AND MAPS FOR US TO CHOOSE FROM.
10:57:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS VIERA, I WILL SECOND THIS UNDER
10:57:35 THE IDEA THAT WE ARE IN EFFECT MOVING THIS ALONG SO WE
10:57:40 DON'T HAVE A GAP, BUT WE ARE, IN EFFECT, CONTINUING IT
10:57:42 FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION UPON SECOND READING.
10:57:44 THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
10:57:47 SO FOR THAT REGARD, I THINK THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH
10:57:49 WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTED.
10:57:52 SO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UNDER THAT VIEW, I CAN
10:57:53 SECOND THAT.
10:57:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
10:57:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:58:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:58:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:58:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR THAT
10:58:13 MR. VIERA'S LAST FEW COMMENTS THAT STAFF WILL BE
10:58:15 GETTING WITH COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:58:19 BECAUSE SOME OTHER ISSUES BESIDES THE MAP THAT I WANT
10:58:20 TO DISCUSS WITH THEM.
10:58:22 I WILL VOTE YES AT THIS TIME.
10:58:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES FOR FIRST READING.
10:58:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:58:31 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:58:33 CITIZENS.
10:58:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:58:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:58:45 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:58:48 >> WAS THERE A MOTION FOR SECOND -- SCHEDULED TO COME
10:58:51 BACK WHEN WE HAVE THAT, MADAM CLERK.
10:58:54 >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION NOVEMBER 5, 2020
10:58:59 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:59:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:04 NEXT ITEM --
10:59:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM SORRY
10:59:10 BEFORE WE MOVE OFF THIS ITEM, EXCUSE ME FOR ASKING.
10:59:14 BUT THAT DATE IS -- THE SECOND READING IS AFTER THE
10:59:18 EXPIRATION OF THIS -- AS WE SPEAK, THAT IS CORRECT, MR.
10:59:22 MASSEY?
10:59:31 >> YES.
10:59:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MASSEY, ARE YOU STILL --
10:59:37 >> EXCUSE ME, I APOLOGIZE.
10:59:37 WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
10:59:40 I APOLOGIZE, MORRIS MASSEY.
10:59:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SECOND READING ANNOUNCE THAT
10:59:46 AGAIN, MADAM CLERK.
10:59:49 SECOND READING ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING.
10:59:54 >>CLERK: WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 5, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:59:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION, MR. MASSEY, IS THAT NOT
10:59:59 AFTER THE EXPIRATION DATE?
11:00:01 >> YES, IT IS AFTER THE EXPIRATION.
11:00:02 THAT'S CORRECT.
11:00:04 IS THERE NOT ANOTHER DATE?
11:00:08 I THOUGHT OCTOBER 15 WOULD BE THE NEXT DATE.
11:00:12 >>CLERK: OCTOBER 15 WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR US TO PUBLISH
11:00:16 IN TIME.
11:00:20 >> TODAY IS THE FIRST, ONLY TWO DAYS FOR PUBLICATION.
11:00:21 >>CLERK: CORRECT.
11:00:24 THE ISSUE WE HAVE -- WE DO NOT HAVE THE NEWSPAPER PAPER
11:00:27 COMPANY THAT WE COULD TURN AROUND AND PUBLISH WITHIN
11:00:28 THE TWO WEEKS.
11:00:31 SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN HAVING TO PUSH IT OUT THREE
11:00:32 WEEKS.
11:00:36 OR MORE.
11:00:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:00:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. MIRANDA.
11:00:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN IT WITHIN THE
11:00:47 TIME FRAME AND HAVING IT AT THE CRA MEETING, A SPECIAL
11:00:49 CALLED MEETING ON THIS ONE ITEM?
11:00:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AGREED.
11:00:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT DAY WILL THAT BE?
11:00:58 >> THE CRA MEETING IS NEXT WEEK.
11:00:58 THAT WOULD NOT WORK.
11:01:07 MAYBE THE WORKSHOP AS A SPECIAL CALL ON THE 22ND.
11:01:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULDN'T THAT BE AFTER THE EXPIRATION
11:01:12 BY TWO DAYS, AM I CORRECT?
11:01:14 >> YES, IT WOULD.
11:01:19 TWO DAYS ABOUT BETTER THAN TWO WEEKS.
11:01:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD THE CLERK BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH
11:01:24 PUBLICATION TIMELY.
11:01:27 >>CLERK: YES, WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH FOR OCTOBER
11:01:28 22.
11:01:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, MODIFY FOR A SECOND READ
11:01:35 COMING BACK ACT 22ND?
11:01:38 >>CLERK: I WILL PUT ON OCTOBER 22.
11:01:39 WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE 9 A.M.?
11:01:44 WOULD THIS BE AFTER THE WORKSHOP SESSION?
11:01:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME SEE HOW THIS WORKS.
11:01:49 A SPECIAL CALL FOR THAT ONE PURPOSE, FOR A PUBLIC
11:01:58 HEARING?
11:02:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHILE HE IS LOOKING.
11:02:03 LET ME SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, THIS ISSUE OF SECOND
11:02:08 READING TIMING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTIONS OR
11:02:12 MY SUGGESTIONS ON THE MAP ALTERATIONS.
11:02:20 OBVIOUSLY THIS MUST HAVE SLIPPED THROUGHOUT CRACKS AND
11:02:27 THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MONTHS AGO AND HOPE PEOPLE
11:02:30 DON'T GET MAD AT ME OF THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING BECAUSE
11:02:34 THIS ISSUE WOULD HAVE COME UP WITH THE TIMING OF THE
11:02:35 SECOND MEETING.
11:02:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I STATE COUNCIL WITH THE SPECIAL
11:02:39 CALL MEETING.
11:02:42 BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU SETS IT AND WHAT TIME.
11:02:46 BECAUSE REMIND THAT YOU THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING AND A
11:02:47 PUBLIC HEARING.
11:02:51 SO WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE IS -- THERE IS GOING TO
11:02:54 BE FRANKLY NO WAY THIS IS GOING TO BE A SIMPLE DECISION
11:02:58 BY CITY COUNCIL SAYING WE ARE GOING TO -- THERE MAY BE
11:03:01 SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL SOMEHOW WANT TO
11:03:05 COMMUNICATE EITHER IN PERSON OR HOWEVER BY WHATEVER
11:03:07 MEANS BEFORE COUNCIL TAKES A VOTE ON THIS.
11:03:11 SO WHATEVER TIME YOU ALLOW IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE
11:03:14 SUFFICIENT TO NOT IMPACT THE REST OF YOUR AGENDA.
11:03:17 SO IT IS YOUR CALL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.
11:03:21 THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO YOUR ATTENTION EARL WEAR.
11:03:27 THIS WILL COME BACK AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:03:31 SO WHATEVER COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS.
11:03:34 WE CAN SET A SPECIAL CALL IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S
11:03:38 INTENTION.
11:03:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE A SPECIAL CALL.
11:03:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO A SUGGESTION -- A SUGGESTION
11:03:48 MIGHT TO BE EVEN CONSIDER IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS AS
11:03:49 AN EVENING MEETING.
11:03:52 BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THAT WILL HAVE TO
11:03:52 BE.
11:03:56 RIGHT NOW -- RIGHT NOW -- DID YOU TAKE A ROLL CALL
11:03:59 VOTE, MADAM CLERK?
11:04:01 >>CLERK: YES, I DID.
11:04:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: RIGHT NOW THIS IS SET FOR NOVEMBER 12
11:04:06 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:04:10 >>CLERK: NOVEMBER 5 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:04:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 5 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:04:17 THAT IS WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW, COUNCIL.
11:04:29 >>CLERK: YOU HAVE AN EVENING SESSION OF OCTOBER 22.
11:04:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HEAR NO RESPONSE FROM
11:04:33 COUNCIL.
11:04:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PREFERENCE.
11:04:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WOULD HAVE TO BE AN EVENING SESSION.
11:04:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION BY COUNCIL.
11:04:44 SO WILL HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND AND AMEND.
11:04:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
11:04:47 ANYTHING?
11:04:49 ANY DISCUSSION?
11:04:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED MOTION, MR.
11:04:51 SHELBY.
11:04:52 YOU LOST ME.
11:04:54 EVERYBODY HAS LOST ME.
11:04:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
11:04:58 THE QUESTION WAS -- I JUST POINTED OUT.
11:05:01 AND I APOLOGIZED BECAUSE I WANTED THE RECORD TO BE
11:05:04 CLEAR WHEN SHE ANNOUNCED THE DATE, SHE ANNOUNCED THE
11:05:06 DATE AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF THE ORDINANCE NOW IN
11:05:07 EFFECTS.
11:05:10 I DIDN'T KNOW -- I WANTED COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR IF THAT
11:05:11 WAS COUNCIL'S INTENTION.
11:05:14 IF NOT, YOU HAVE THE OPTION NOW TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT,
11:05:17 ALLOWING THE CLERK TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE
11:05:25 LEGALLY REQUIRED NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND PUBLICATION.
11:05:27 IF WANT TO CHANGE THE DATE FOR WHAT THE CLERK ANNOUNCED
11:05:37 WILL ASSUME THAT AND MEET THE STATUTORY ENVIRONMENTS.
11:05:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DATE IS THE ALTERNATIVE.
11:05:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 22.
11:05:43 AFTER THE WORKSHOP.
11:05:47 A SPECIAL CALL AND PUT IT IN THE EVENING.
11:05:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MOVE TO SLIGHTLY MODIFY THE
11:05:53 SECOND READING DATE TO BE THE 22.
11:05:59 WE WILL SAY 10:00 AND SEE WHEN WE CAN SQUEEZE IT IN FOR
11:06:01 SECOND READING.
11:06:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OCTOBER 22, COUNCIL?
11:06:07 I AM SORRY, I HAVE TO INFORM YOU THAT IS A WORKSHOP DAY
11:06:10 AND THAT DAY HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH CLEARED FOR CERTAIN
11:06:14 ITEMS FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT.
11:06:17 AND THE THING IS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AS A SPECIAL
11:06:22 CALL BECAUSE A WORKSHOP DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE A PUBLIC
11:06:22 HEARING.
11:06:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS WHAT I WAS JUST TOLD, 22ND
11:06:27 AND SPECIAL CALL.
11:06:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WILL SEND A SPECIAL CALL MEETING
11:06:35 FOR WHATEVER TIME AFTER 10:00 THAT WORKSHOP WRAPS UP.
11:06:39 THAT MY UNDERSTANDING?
11:06:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPECIAL CALL OCTOBER 22
11:06:45 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WORKSHOP.
11:06:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEGS YOUR QUESTION WHAT IS A NOTICED
11:06:49 AND PUBLIC MEETING.
11:06:50 A TIME NEEDS TO BE SET.
11:06:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS WHY I SAID 10:00.
11:06:55 WE CAN SET IT FOR 10:00.
11:06:59 AND WHEN MR. CHAIRMAN IS READY TO TEE IT UP.
11:07:00 HE CAN TEE IT UP.
11:07:02 WE HAVE TO SET IT FOR A TIME.
11:07:05 AND THAT IS WHY I SAID 10:00, AND THE INTENT IS
11:07:09 WHENEVER MR. CHAIRMAN TO TEE IT UP.
11:07:11 HE CAN TEE IT UP.
11:07:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT NORMALLY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY,
11:07:14 COUNCILMAN.
11:07:16 NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU DON'T USUALLY STOP A
11:07:20 WORKSHOP AND GO INTO A SPECIAL CALL AND RESUME YOUR
11:07:21 WORKSHOP.
11:07:23 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HAS EVER BEEN DONE.
11:07:25 AND I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT --
11:07:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WASN'T THE INTENT.
11:07:31 WHEN THE WORKSHOP IS OVER ANY TIME AFTER 10:00 THEN HE
11:07:35 CAN CALL THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
11:07:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS TRUE.
11:07:38 THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT.
11:07:42 ONLY THING IS REMIND COUNCIL IF YOU LOOK -- YOU WILL
11:07:46 HAVE TO COME UP AT 5:01 FOR A FULL NIGHT MEETING AND
11:07:50 MAY -- IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:07:53 I DON'T HAVE A POSITION I WANT COUNCIL TO MAKE AN
11:07:55 INFORMED DECISION BECAUSE ONCE THIS MOTION GOES OUT
11:07:57 THERE AND ON THE AGENDA, IT IS NOTICED AND IT REALLY
11:08:00 CAN'T BE ALTERED.
11:08:01 I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
11:08:04 I HAVE NO POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
11:08:05 I AM JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.
11:08:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:08:11 A SECOND FOR THAT OCTOBER 22, SPECIAL CALL, IMMEDIATELY
11:08:13 AFTER THE WORKSHOP.
11:08:15 WE SET IT AT 10:00.
11:08:19 IT COULD BE 10:04, 11:13.
11:08:20 BUT AFTER THE WORKSHOP.
11:08:22 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:08:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
11:08:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:08:29 TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:08:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:08:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:08:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:08:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:08:41 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:08:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:08:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:08:49 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:08:53 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22,
11:08:58 2020 AT A SPECIAL CALL MEETING AT 10:00 A.M. OR
11:09:01 IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE WORKSHOP SESSION.
11:09:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PERFECT.
11:09:03 THANK YOU.
11:09:04 THANK YOU.
11:09:11 ANOTHER ITEM IS PULLED ITEM 15, 22 AND 23.
11:09:15 ITEM 15, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU PULLED THIS ITEM.
11:09:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:09:18 ITEM 15.
11:09:26 I DON'T KNOW IF CHUCK IS ON THE LINE OR WHO WILL SPEAK
11:09:28 TO THIS WATER -- THIS WATER ISSUE.
11:09:45 ITEM 5, APPARENT -- ITEM 15, MAINZER MANAGEMENT, DBA
11:09:48 TECHSTAFF AND HAVE PATROLLED THE CITY MAKING SURE
11:09:50 PEOPLE ARE WATERING ON THE APPROPRIATE DAY.
11:09:53 WHEN THEY CATCH THEM NOT WATERING ON THE APPROPRIATE
11:09:56 DAY, I GUESS WE HAVE GIVEN THEM THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE
11:09:57 TICKETS.
11:10:03 THEY WAY THEM -- THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $193,000 PER
11:10:05 YEAR TO DO THIS.
11:10:07 IN THE PAST I HAVE ASKED THAT WE COULD ISSUE WARNINGS
11:10:11 AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT SAYS, NO, NO, NO, WARNINGS
11:10:12 DON'T WORK.
11:10:17 MY QUESTION TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT WAS, WHAT KIND OF
11:10:24 MONEY ARE WE GENERATING OUT OF THIS -- WE PAY $19 --
11:10:26 $193,000.
11:10:32 WHAT KIND OF MONEY ARE WE GENERATING FROM THIS
11:10:33 $193,000.
11:10:36 AND WHERE ARE WE TICKETING PEOPLE.
11:10:44 MR. WALTERS AND HIS STAFF PROVIDED A MAP AND MR. VIERA,
11:10:46 I THINK YOU WILL BE INTERESTED IN THIS MAP.
11:10:53 BUT IN NEW TAMPA, THEY ISSUED 495 TICKETS.
11:10:58 IN SOUTH TAMPA -- OR IN DISTRICT -- THAT IS MR. VIERA'S
11:10:59 DISTRICT.
11:11:05 DISTRICT 4, THEY ISSUED 104 TICKETS, MR. CARLSON'S
11:11:06 DISTRICT.
11:11:11 AND MR. MANISCALCO'S DISTRICT, THEY ISSUED 49 TICKETS.
11:11:14 AND I DON'T KNOW -- THAT IS PROBABLY SPREAD BETWEEN
11:11:17 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND WEST TAMPA.
11:11:20 AND IN EAST TAMPA, THEY ISSUED ZERO TICKETS.
11:11:24 SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY ARE
11:11:26 PATROLLING EAST TAMPA AND IF THAT IS BY DIRECTION OR
11:11:27 WHAT.
11:11:31 I THOUGHT THE DISPARITY -- ESPECIALLY IN NEW TAMPA,
11:11:34 WITH FIVE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TICKETS ISSUED TO
11:11:38 ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WHOLE CITY IS RATHER ALARMING.
11:11:40 I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS ABOUT.
11:11:44 BUT THE -- BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE MONEY GENERATED
11:11:47 TOTAL COMES OUT TODAY 50,000.
11:11:50 AND WE ARE PAYING $193,000 TO DO IT.
11:11:53 AND I KNOW IT IS IN THE NAME OF WATER CONSERVATION, BUT
11:11:56 I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE REALLY STUDIED THIS CAREFULLY.
11:12:03 AND THAT IS WHAT BOTHERED ME ABOUT THIS ITEM.
11:12:06 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THIS IS JEAN DUNCAN.
11:12:09 DIRECTOR CHUCK WEBER WILL GIVE AN EXPLANATION FOR THIS
11:12:10 ITEM.
11:12:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM SORRY, I CALLED HIM WALTER
11:12:15 BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE A WALTER --
11:12:18 >> THANK YOU, WE DON'T WANT --
11:12:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SORRY, CHUCK.
11:12:23 >> DIFFERENT PERSON, DIFFERENT TIME.
11:12:26 WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL GIVE A QUICK EXPLANATION
11:12:31 FOR AND SHARE HOW THIS IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD PRACTICE
11:12:38 THAT HAS A LOT OF EVIDENCE OF BENEFITS IN TERMS OF
11:12:40 FISCALLY, AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTALLY.
11:12:44 SO I WILL LET DIRECTOR CHUCK WEBER GIVE YOU A QUICK
11:12:50 EXPLANATION OF OUR METHODOLOGY AND THE REASONS WHY WE
11:12:53 THINK THIS IS A GOOD INVESTMENT OF DOLLARS TO SUPPORT
11:12:57 OUR WATER SYSTEM.
11:12:59 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:13:02 CHUCK WEBER, WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
11:13:06 THE CITY PRACTICES YEAR-ROUND WATERING RESTRICTIONS TO
11:13:07 CONSERVE WATER.
11:13:10 THE WATER RESTRICTION ENFORCEMENT IS AN IMPORTANT PART
11:13:12 OF THAT CONSERVATION PROGRAM.
11:13:17 WITH IT, WE HAVE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OBSERVED
11:13:21 VIOLATIONS THAT STARTED OVER 4,000 IN 2002.
11:13:27 WE REDUCED IT DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY -- 335 IN 2020.
11:13:31 THAT IS A LARGE REDUCTION IN VIOLATIONS AND A LOT OF
11:13:32 WATER SAVED.
11:13:35 THE REDUCTION IN VIOLATION COME TO LITTLE OVER TWO
11:13:38 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY SAVED EVERY YEAR.
11:13:45 AND WHEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THE COST TO PUMP TWO
11:13:49 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AN OPERATIONAL SAVINGS OF OVER
11:13:54 $850,000 A YEAR, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO THE $194,000 ARE
11:13:57 THEIR IS A RETURN OF INVESTMENT ON ABOUT 340%.
11:14:01 SO THE -- YOU KNOW YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FROM THAT
11:14:01 PERSPECTIVE.
11:14:04 IT IS NOT JUST THE MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE AS REVENUE
11:14:07 FROM THE CITATIONS.
11:14:10 IT'S THE SAVINGS IN WATER THAT REALLY PAYS FOR THIS
11:14:13 PROGRAM.
11:14:16 AND ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT -- YOU KNOW, WE
11:14:19 ARE NOT ALONE IN OUR ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.
11:14:24 IT IS A STANDARD COMPONENT OF CONSERVATION PROGRAMS.
11:14:26 HILLSBOROUGH, PASCO, PINELLAS COUNTY AS WELL AS THE
11:14:31 CITY OF ST. PETE AND NEW PORT RICHEY HAVE ENFORCEMENT
11:14:34 AND STAFF AS PART OF THESE PROGRAMS.
11:14:39 JUST TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE -- THE GEOGRAPHY OF WHERE
11:14:43 WE ARE SEEING THE VIOLATIONS, TYPICALLY THESE
11:14:48 VIOLATIONS ARE RELATED TO IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, TIMERS
11:14:51 AND HOW THINGS ARE SET.
11:14:57 AND WHAT WE FIND PARTICULARLY NEW TAMPA ARE WATERING
11:15:02 RESTRICTIONS ARE A CHALLENGE FOR FOLKS WHO LIVE IN
11:15:06 NEIGHBORHOODS WITH ASSOCIATIONS THAT REQUIRE GREEN
11:15:08 LAWNS AND A LOT OF WATERING.
11:15:11 SO IT IS A VERY -- IT IS A TOUGH CHALLENGE FOR CERTAIN
11:15:15 AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE YOU ARE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:15:23 ASSOCIATIONS THAT REQUIRE CERTAIN STANDARDS AND YOU
11:15:25 HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE WATERING RESTRICTION THAT'S ONLY
11:15:27 ALLOW FOR WATERING TWICE A WEEK.
11:15:31 AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS.
11:15:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:15:35 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
11:15:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:15:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:15:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HOPE IT IS NOT A CRAZY QUESTION BUT
11:15:48 PAYING $200,000 TO CHECK ON PEOPLE WHO MAY BE IN
11:15:53 VIOLATION OF WATER CONSERVATION, BUT -- BUT MY THING
11:15:56 IS, DON'T WE HAVE -- WHAT I CALL THE WATER METER MAIDS
11:16:02 TO CHECK PEOPLE WATER NUMBERS EVERY -- EVERY MONTH.
11:16:08 DON'T CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THESE AREAS THAT CAN SEE
11:16:10 SOMEONE WATERING THEIR LAWNS?
11:16:11 I AM CURIOUS.
11:16:14 I AM LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER THAT SINCE DINGFELDER
11:16:15 BROUGHT IT UP.
11:16:17 SEEMS KIND OF ODD.
11:16:19 >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
11:16:21 TECH STAFF IS A STAFF OF THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE
11:16:22 PATROLLING.
11:16:26 THERE IS A LARGE AREA TO PATROL, AND WE DO PATROL THE
11:16:29 WHOLE CITY.
11:16:33 AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO OUTSOURCE.
11:16:36 THE BUSINESS IS A SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS.
11:16:40 SO IT IS 100% PARTICIPATION THERE.
11:16:46 AND IT IS -- IT -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF
11:16:51 STAFFING THAT MANY PEOPLE, IT IS VERY -- IT IS VERY
11:17:00 APPROPRIATE SORT OF WAY TO STAFF.
11:17:05 >> AND CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
11:17:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
11:17:10 >> THANK YOU COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FOR BRINGING THIS
11:17:13 AND A DETAIL ORIENTED COUNCILMAN.
11:17:16 I WILL WORK OFF LINE WITH WATER ON EDUCATIONAL ISSUES
11:17:20 FOR 34667 IN NEW TAMPA TO THE EXTENT THAT IS NECESSARY
11:17:21 TO ADDRESS THIS.
11:17:24 I WON'T TAKE UP COUNCIL'S TIME.
11:17:26 I WILL SAY OUT OF THOSE SEVERAL HUNDRED WATER
11:17:29 RESTRICTION THAT WAS GIVEN.
11:17:31 MY HOUSE WAS ONE OF THEM.
11:17:31 THERE YOU GO.
11:17:34 I GOT A TICKET A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHICH I PROMPTLY
11:17:35 PAID.
11:17:38 SO, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT
11:17:43 THIS HOMEOWNER NEEDED AND I'M SURE A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS
11:17:43 NEEDED.
11:17:46 WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE CLOSELY, BUT THANK
11:17:47 YOU, SIR.
11:17:49 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
11:17:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I SPEAK, MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:17:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:17:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:17:56 ON WATER RESTRICTION DAYS.
11:17:59 EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO WATER THEIR GRASS TWICE A
11:17:59 WEEK.
11:18:03 THE LAST NUMBER OF YOUR ADDRESS THAT GIVES YOU A
11:18:04 CERTAIN DAY.
11:18:08 FOR INSTANCE, IF 012 OR 3, YOU CAN WATER ON MONDAY AND
11:18:09 THURSDAYS.
11:18:13 IF YOU END IN 4, 5 AND 6, WATER ON TUESDAYS AND
11:18:14 FRIDAYS.
11:18:19 AND IF YOU ARE ENDING ADDRESS IS 7, 8, OR 9, WEDNESDAY
11:18:20 OR SATURDAY.
11:18:22 MINE IS NONE OF THE ABOVE.
11:18:24 I DON'T HAVE ANY GRASS.
11:18:27 I HAVE GOT ROCKS; HOWEVER, IT IS A -- COMPOUNDED BY
11:18:28 ANOTHER ISSUE.
11:18:32 AS THIS CITY GROWS AND CONTINUE TO GROWS AND THANK GOD
11:18:33 IT IS.
11:18:36 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WATER SITUATION, YOU CAN'T PRODUCE
11:18:40 ALL THE WATER YOU WANT WITHOUT HAVING THE PERMIT TO DO
11:18:40 SO.
11:18:44 WE HAVE A PERMIT FOR 82 MILLION GALLONS A DAY ON A
11:18:44 DAILY AVERAGE.
11:18:47 IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS AND KEEP DOING THE THINGS THAT
11:18:51 PEOPLE LIKE TO DO IS HAVE GREEN GRASS, AND GOD BLESS
11:18:56 THEM, THANK GOD THEY -- THEY DO BECAUSE I DON'T THE 82
11:19:00 MILLION BECOMES A PROBLEM WHEN OFF SITUATION THAT YOU
11:19:00 NEED WATER.
11:19:03 SEE, WHEN YOU HAVE PLENTY OF WATER, YOU DON'T NEED IT.
11:19:06 YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WATER IS WHEN YOU NEED IT.
11:19:07 THAT IS THE WATER SITUATION.
11:19:10 VERY DIFFICULT AND VERY SIMPLE BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT
11:19:12 TO ADDRESS.
11:19:15 SO I AM ALWAYS -- I ALWAYS VOTED FOR THIS.
11:19:17 A COST SAVING, ENVIRONMENTAL.
11:19:20 IT DOES EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO AND IT WILL BE MUCH
11:19:24 COSTLIER IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON AT ALL.
11:19:28 WHEN YOU GO AND BUTT HEADS WITH THE 82 MILLION GALLONS,
11:19:31 THE FINES CAN BE MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT WE ARE PAYING
11:19:31 NOW.
11:19:33 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:19:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:19:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
11:19:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CITRO, GO AHEAD.
11:19:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A QUESTION TO STAFF.
11:19:43 ARE THESE WATER RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF DAYS OF
11:19:45 WATERING?
11:19:48 OR ALSO HOW THEY ARE WATERING THE LAWNS WITH THE --
11:19:52 WITH THE -- THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE
11:19:59 SPRINKLERS ARE WORKING PROPERLY.
11:20:03 >> RESTRICTIONS ARE PRIMARILY BASED ON THE DAY OF THE
11:20:06 WEEK THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO IRRIGATE AND THEN ALSO
11:20:09 THE TIME OF DAY.
11:20:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
11:20:10 THANK YOU.
11:20:12 I POSE THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I HOPE WE ARE ALSO LOOKING
11:20:16 AT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HOW WE ARE WATERING OUR AREAS.
11:20:20 AS I TRAVEL UP HILLSBOROUGH, HIMES, KENNEDY AND
11:20:25 BAYSHORE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WATER THAT PAVEMENT OR
11:20:28 HOW MUCH YOU WATER THAT SIDEWALK, IT IS NOT GOING TO
11:20:29 GROW.
11:20:32 SO I HOPE WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA OF
11:20:35 THE WAY WE ARE WATERING OUR AREAS TOO.
11:20:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:20:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:41 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:20:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
11:20:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:20:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:20:51 MR. WEBER, I APOLOGIZE FOR MESSING UP YOUR NAME.
11:20:54 A WHILE SINCE WE HAVE SEEN EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE.
11:20:56 ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE?
11:20:59 >> YES, I AM, SIR.
11:21:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, YOU CAME UP -- I HAVE A
11:21:03 COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
11:21:04 YOU CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER.
11:21:10 AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE METH -- METHODOLOGY.
11:21:13 YOU SAID BY DOING THIS PROGRAM WE ARE SAVING TWO
11:21:15 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
11:21:17 WHAT IS THE METHODOLOGY FOR PROVING THAT.
11:21:23 THAT SEEMS DISH DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU PROVE THAT.
11:21:29 >> WELL, WHEN YOU -- TYPICALLY, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS,
11:21:32 WHEN WE FINE THEM IN VIOLATION OF THE WATERING
11:21:35 RESTRICTIONS, THEY ARE SET UP TO WATER EVERY DAY.
11:21:37 IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF FLOW THAT YOU GET THROUGH
11:21:40 AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND THE TIME THAT IT IS ON, YOU
11:21:44 COME UP WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF GALLONS, AND FROM
11:21:47 THERE, YOU CAN FIGURE OUT IF THE TIMER WAS LEFT AND SET
11:21:51 AT THAT, HOW MANY DAYS -- WHAT THE VOLUME WILL BE FOR
11:21:54 THOSE DAYS AND PROJECT THAT OUT FOR A YEAR AND FROM
11:21:55 THERE YOU CAN GET THE TOTAL.
11:22:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT THE -- MY
11:22:07 UNDERSTANDING AND MY VISITING THIS ISSUE IN THE PAST IS
11:22:14 WHEN THEY GIVE YOU A TICKET THEY DON'T KNOCK ON THE
11:22:17 DOOR -- I DON'T THINK THEY KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND GIVE
11:22:20 YOU A LITTLE EDUCATIONAL COURSE AND WALK OVER AND LOOK
11:22:23 AT YOUR METER AND SAY YOU ARE SET ON SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
11:22:27 I THINK YOU GET MAILED A TICKET IN THE MAIL, ISN'T THAT
11:22:32 CORRECT?
11:22:34 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE.
11:22:38 I WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK AND HAPPY TO DO THAT AND
11:22:41 GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION OF HOW THE TICKETS ARE
11:22:44 DELIVERED, BUT THEY DO FOLLOW UP TO ENSURE THAT THE
11:22:51 CITATION HAS RESULTED IN A CHANGE OF BEHAVIOR.
11:22:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW?
11:22:57 >> BY DRIVING BY AND COMING TO CHECK ON THE SAME TIMES
11:22:59 THAT THEY FOUND IT IN VIOLATION BEFORE.
11:23:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:23:05 ALL RIGHT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I THINK TWO MILLION
11:23:09 GALLONS A DAY IS BASED ON A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS, NUMBER
11:23:09 ONE.
11:23:11 NUMBER TWO IS, WHEN YOU --
11:23:14 >> MR. DINGFELDER, I APOLOGIZE --
11:23:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I FINISH MY THOUGHTS BEFORE I
11:23:20 GET INTERRUPTED ALL THE TIME, PLEASE.
11:23:23 >> I WAS JUST -- CORRECTING A STATISTIC THAT HAS BEEN
11:23:25 REPEATED A COUPLE OF TIMES.
11:23:31 IT'S TWO MILLION GALLONS AVERAGE ANNUAL SAVED PER YEAR
11:23:34 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
11:23:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, JEAN.
11:23:38 I THOUGHT THAT WAS LEGAL JUMPING IN.
11:23:39 I APOLOGIZE.
11:23:40 JEAN, I AM SORRY.
11:23:43 I SAID TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
11:23:46 YOU ARE SAYING TWO MILLION GALLONS A YEAR?
11:23:51 >> YES, AND I WILL LET DIRECTOR WEBER SPEAK MORE TO
11:23:52 THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
11:23:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOLD ON.
11:23:58 TWO MILLION GALLONS A YEAR IS OUR SAVINGS FROM THIS
11:24:03 PROGRAM WHICH IS -- THAT IS A TINY LITTLE DROP IN THE
11:24:04 BUCKET.
11:24:07 WHAT IS OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW?
11:24:09 >> I APOLOGIZE TO INTERRUPT.
11:24:14 IT IS TWO MILLION GALLONS A WAY AVERAGE ANNUAL SAVINGS.
11:24:18 A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
11:24:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY AVERAGE
11:24:22 ANNUAL SAVING.
11:24:23 DEPENDS ON THE SEASON.
11:24:24 >> AGAIN, SORRY.
11:24:29 IT IS OVER THAT -- IT IS TWO MILLIONS GALLONS A DAY PER
11:24:30 SE THAT YEAR.
11:24:33 SO SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION AND CONFUSION.
11:24:36 BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT STATISTIC WAS BEING
11:24:38 SPOKEN TO ACCURATELY.
11:24:41 SO, AGAIN, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
11:24:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS ALL RIGHT.
11:24:45 AUDIO MEETINGS ARE DIFFICULT.
11:24:48 THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, CHUCK, IS YOU TALK ABOUT
11:24:49 850,000 DOLLARS.
11:24:56 I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT -- WAS THAT PER DAY, PER YEAR?
11:25:01 >> THAT WOULD BE PER YEAR.
11:25:02 >> AND MY QUESTION ON THAT.
11:25:05 WE DON'T LOSE MONEY WHEN WE SELL WATER.
11:25:09 IF THOSE PEOPLE -- IF THOSE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE NOT LIKE
11:25:13 THEY ARE GETTING THAT WATER FOR FREE IF THEY USE IT ON
11:25:14 THE WRONG DAY.
11:25:16 I AM NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD USE IT ON THE WRONG DAY BUT
11:25:21 I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO BE MISLED THIS IS ALMOST A
11:25:23 MILLION DOLLAR LOSS TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
11:25:25 FRANKLY THE WATER DEPARTMENT MAKES MORE MONEY WHEN THEY
11:25:27 USE MORE WATER.
11:25:30 I HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS
11:25:34 IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT.
11:25:36 SO YOU CLARIFY THAT $850,000.
11:25:39 THAT IS NOT A LOSS OFF YOUR BOTTOM LINE.
11:25:43 >> MR. DINGFELDER, IF I CAN MOVE IN AHEAD OF CHUCK.
11:25:46 THE LOSS IS THE LOSS OF THIS RESOURCE.
11:25:50 IT IS VERY LIMITED WITHIN CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DATE OR
11:25:50 YEAR.
11:25:55 SO WHEN THERE IS A RESTRICTION OR THERE IS A TIME FRAME
11:25:59 SET, IF YOU ARE VIOLATING THAT TIME FRAME BECAUSE
11:26:02 ABANDONING THIS PRECIOUS RESOURCE, THAT IS THE LOSS
11:26:05 THAT WE ARE SEEING TO OUR -- TO OUR SYSTEM AS MR.
11:26:08 MIRANDA WAS STATING.
11:26:12 THERE IS A CONSERVATION ASPECTS OF THIS THAT WE NEED TO
11:26:15 BE ENFORCING AND MONITORING HOW THIS PRECIOUS RESOURCE
11:26:19 IS BEING UTILIZED BY -- BY THE PUBLIC.
11:26:22 AND I WILL LET CHUCK TAKE IT FROM THERE.
11:26:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE -- I MEAN, JEAN, I AGREE
11:26:27 WITH YOU.
11:26:30 CONSERVATION IS IMPORTANT, BUT WE CAN GET TO
11:26:32 CONSERVATION BY MARKETING.
11:26:36 AND I DON'T THINK WE ARE GETTING COST BENEFIT ANT
11:26:37 RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
11:26:42 WE ARE SPENDING $200,000 TO GET $50,000 IN FINES BACK.
11:26:46 OKAY, WHICH IS -- WHICH WE ARE SPENDING FOUR TIMES THE
11:26:47 AMOUNT OF MONEY.
11:26:50 OTHER WATER CUSTOMERS ARE SPENDING FOUR TIMES THE
11:26:56 AMOUNT OF MONEY TO -- TO SPANK THESE BAD APPLES, OKAY.
11:26:58 AND DON'T THINK THAT -- I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE BEST
11:27:00 USE OF THAT $200,000.
11:27:03 I THINK THE BEST USE OF THAT $200,000 IS WITH
11:27:04 MARKETING.
11:27:07 AND MR. -- MR. VIERA SPOKE TO THIS.
11:27:11 HE IS GOING TO DO HIS OWN PRIVATE MARKETING UP IN NEW
11:27:13 TAMPA, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT I THINK WE CAN REALLY TAKE
11:27:15 ADVANTAGE OF THAT $200,000.
11:27:19 AND WHY DON'T WE.
11:27:26 WHY DON'T WE USE THE $200,000 MARKETING BLANKET
11:27:28 CAMPAIGN INSTEAD OF RUNNING AROUND ISSUING THE FINES
11:27:32 AND LOOK A YEAR OR TWO LATER AND SEE HOW MUCH WATER WE
11:27:36 HAVE SAVED DOING MARKETING INSTEAD OF -- INSTEAD OF
11:27:37 THESE FINES.
11:27:40 AND DO WARNINGS WITH THE MARKETING AND -- AND INSTEAD
11:27:45 OF THAT.
11:27:50 >> MR. DINGFELDER, I WILL ASK MISS JAN MCLEAN TO CHIME
11:27:53 IN ON THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT GO ALONG WITH
11:27:56 THE APPLICATION THAT WE ARE ASKING TO YOU TAKE TODAY.
11:28:01 JAN, CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ON THE REGULATORY SIDE.
11:28:03 THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
11:28:08 >>JANICE MCLEAN: GOOD MORNING AGAIN JAN MCLEAN WITH
11:28:11 THE CITY OF CITY ATTORNEY.
11:28:13 THE CONDITION OF THE WATER USE PERMIT.
11:28:17 CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THAT ARE LISTED WITHIN THE RULES OF
11:28:22 THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND ONE OF THE PREMIERE
11:28:27 ACTIVITIES THEY LOOK TO FOR PUBLIC IS UP IS TO POLICE
11:28:29 DEPARTMENT IRRIGATION ENFORCEMENT.
11:28:33 CITY OF TAMPA HAD -- YOU MAY WELL KNOW, MR. DINGFELDER,
11:28:35 BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS WITH DROUGHTS
11:28:40 BEFORE, ONE OF THE BETTER ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES IN THE
11:28:41 AREA.
11:28:45 WE REPORT BOTH TO TAMPA BAY WATER AND TO THE WATER
11:28:48 MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS WHAT OUR ACTIVITIES ARE, THE
11:28:53 TICKETS THAT WE HAVE ISSUED, AND THEY LOOK VERY
11:28:58 SERIOUSLY AT THIS AS ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENT.
11:29:01 NOT TO SAY THAT EDUCATION AND MARKET SOMETHING NOT A
11:29:03 KEY COMPONENT, BUT IN ONE IS SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY
11:29:13 FEEL SENDS A MESSAGE AND RESULTS IN WATER CONSERVATION
11:29:20 AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO THESE EFFORTS.
11:29:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
11:29:23 I WON'T SUPPORT THE ITEM.
11:29:25 IT IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO GO.
11:29:28 AND FRANKLY, I THINK WE CAN DO MORE WATER CONSERVATION
11:29:31 WITH A STRONG EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
11:29:33 THANK YOU.
11:29:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:37 ANYBODY LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 15.
11:29:40 ITEM NUMBER 15 PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
11:29:41 A MOTION TO MOVE THE ITEM.
11:29:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL MOVE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN,
11:29:45 MIRANDA.
11:29:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:29:48 DO AVENUE SECOND.
11:29:49 >>LUIS VIERA.
11:29:51 VIERA, SECOND.
11:29:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM VIERA.
11:29:56 ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
11:29:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:30:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:30:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
11:30:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:30:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:30:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:30:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:30:19 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:30:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:25 NEXT ITEM NUMBER 22 AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 23 AND THE
11:30:26 STAFF REPORTS AT 57.
11:30:30 ITEM NUMBER 22.
11:30:32 >> GOOD MORNING CHAIR, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:30:39 VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER
11:30:40 22.
11:30:42 ITEM NUMBER 22 DOES TWO THINGS.
11:30:46 ONE IS IT AMENDS THE SCHEDULE OF FEES FOR PARKING
11:31:04 RELATED TO CHAPTER 15 OF THE CITY CODE CHAPTER 15-26.
11:31:12 RESCINDING SCHEDULE OF FEES SECTION 15-26 AS IT RELATES
11:31:14 TO AL LOPEZ PARK.
11:31:21 THAT ITEM ROLLS-ROYCE INTO THE PROPOSED FEES SCHEDULED.
11:31:24 AND SO I WILL GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND ON THIS
11:31:27 ITEM.
11:31:31 THE LAST TIME WE COMPREHENSIVELY ADDRESSED PARKING FEES
11:31:35 AND WHAT WE CHARGE AS A CITY WHICH IS AMONG THE LOWEST
11:31:44 IN THE NATION FOR CITIES OUR SIZE WAS IN 2004.
11:31:49 I THINK A COUPLE OF TIMES AFTER THAT IN 2015, WE MADE
11:31:54 SOME MODIFICATIONS TO FACILITATE A FEE INCREASE FOR
11:31:58 SPECIAL EVENTS FROM $4 TO $10.
11:32:03 WAY BELOW MARKET AND TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT PARKING FEES
11:32:06 AT AL LOPEZ PARK IN SUPPORT OF RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM
11:32:09 EVENT.
11:32:14 SO WE ARE PROPOSING THIS RATE ADJUSTMENTS, BUT IT COMES
11:32:17 WITH A POLICY INITIATIVE AS WELL.
11:32:23 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN A SENSE ARE UPDATED RATES FOR
11:32:30 OUR ON STREET AND OFF-STREET PARKING THIS IS EMERGENCY
11:32:37 OVERDUE BECAUSE AS A PARKING ENTERPRISE, WE WILL BE IN
11:32:38 THE RED NEXT YEAR.
11:32:41 THAT IS RARE AS FAR AS CITY PARKING ENTERPRISES GO
11:32:44 TYPICALLY BECAUSE IT IS E-BASED.
11:32:47 THEY ARE IN THE BLACK, AND ABLE TO MEET THE EXPENSES
11:32:52 WITH THE REVENUES AND WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO.
11:32:57 SEVERAL REASONS FOR THIS SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH
11:33:00 OPPORTUNITY LOSS TO MAKE REVENUES DUE CERTAIN
11:33:02 AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
11:33:05 HAVING HISTORIC LOWER RATES GENERALLY AS WELL.
11:33:08 BUT THERE ARE SOME STRUCTURAL THINGS THAT WE ARE ALSO
11:33:12 ADDRESSING AS PART OF THIS ACTION.
11:33:20 SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO TRANSIENTS PRICING.
11:33:25 OUR HOURLY WAITS FOR PARKING, AND THE ON STREET RATES
11:33:27 ARE LOWER THAN OFF-STREET.
11:33:30 GARAGES ARE ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
11:33:35 AND THIS HAS SIDE EFFECTS IN THAT DRIVERS NOW ARE MORE
11:33:39 INCENTIVIZED TO PARK ON STREET AND THEY HAVE PARKED
11:33:45 THERE LONGER WHICH ADDS TO CONGESTION, WHICH ADDS TO
11:33:50 FUEL EMISSIONS AND ALSO IMPACTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
11:33:53 ON STREET, YOU WANT THEM TO BE TRANSIENT.
11:33:55 YOU WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN, DO THEIR BUSINESS AND
11:33:58 LEAVE, AND IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR LONGER
11:34:00 THAN TWO, THREE HOURS, THEN --
11:34:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN -- MR. CHAIRMAN, I
11:34:05 HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.
11:34:06 I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.
11:34:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:34:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE, VIK, FOR INTERRUPTING.
11:34:15 LAST COUPLE OF DAYS I WAS ASKING FOR A COMPARISON OF
11:34:18 THE OLD PARKING -- THE CURRENT PARKING RATES IN EACH OF
11:34:22 THE GARAGES COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED PARKING RATES AND
11:34:26 LAST NIGHT OR THIS MORNING, I GOT THIS POWERPOINT,
11:34:28 WHICH -- AND A FEW SLIDES FROM NOW WILL SHOW US EXACTLY
11:34:34 WHAT I ASKED FOR, BUT MY CONCERN IS THIS, AND MAYBE I
11:34:36 AM JUST -- MAYBE I AM OUT OF LINE ON THIS AND MAYBE YOU
11:34:39 CAN CORRECT ME, BUT VIK, HAVE YOU -- HAVE YOU GONE
11:34:42 AROUND TO EACH COUNCILMEMBER AND GONE THROUGH THESE
11:34:44 CHARTS AND TABLES?
11:34:47 BECAUSE WE ARE CHANGING THE PARKING RATES NOT ONLY FOR
11:34:50 AL LOPEZ FIELD, BUT IT APPEARS -- AND CORRECT ME IF I'M
11:34:54 WRONG, BUT THAT WE ARE CHANGING IT FOR EVERY PARKING
11:34:58 GARAGE IN -- YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN AND YOU HAVE ALREADY
11:35:02 MENTIONED WE ARE ALSO CHANGING IT FOR THE ON STREET
11:35:02 PARKING.
11:35:06 THIS IS A MAJOR A MAJOR DECISION.
11:35:11 I KNOW I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS CHART AND
11:35:13 TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
11:35:17 HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THESE CHARTS IN
11:35:20 DETAIL WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL.
11:35:24 AND IF NOT, I WOULD SAY THIS ITEM IS ACCEPTABLE FOR A
11:35:28 TWO-WEEK CONTINUANCE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY DO THAT
11:35:32 WITH EACH COUNCILMEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY BEFORE WE SPEND A
11:35:34 LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING IT AS A GROUP.
11:35:39 I KNOW THIS COUNCILMAN HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DIGEST IT.
11:35:41 SO THAT'S -- THAT'S --
11:35:44 >> YES, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:35:45 I CAN ADDRESS THAT.
11:35:48 SO WE HAVE DONE A FEW THINGS.
11:35:54 ONE IS, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE IMMINENT PARKING RATE
11:36:00 CHANGES, THE RATIONALE AND WHAT THIS STRUCTURE WILL
11:36:04 LOOK LIKE WITH ALL COUNCILMEN AND WHAT THE SPECIFIC
11:36:07 RATES AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE THAT WAS PART OF THE
11:36:10 PACKAGE THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
11:36:13 ALSO PART OF YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE.
11:36:16 THE RESOLUTION --
11:36:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I BEG TO DISAGREE.
11:36:22 MISS HARDY DOES A GREAT JOB.
11:36:28 SHE GAVE US THE OLD ORDINANCE, THE NEW RESOLUTION AND
11:36:30 NOT A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON NULL RECEIVED YOUR
11:36:31 POWERPOINT.
11:36:33 YOU CAN'T EXPECT ME TO GO THROUGH THAT TEN-PAGE
11:36:38 RESOLUTION AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
11:36:41 DO WITH PAM IORIO BEFORE AND AFTER.
11:36:44 THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME FIVE HOURS.
11:36:47 A GOOD SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON.
11:36:49 I AM TAKING UP TIME.
11:36:52 I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS SO
11:36:57 WE ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS POWERPOINT AND SEE
11:37:01 WHAT EXACTLY YOU ARE PRO -- WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING AND
11:37:04 NOT FAIR FOR COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO SAY HERE IT
11:37:06 IS AND VOTE FOR IT.
11:37:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:37:11 THAT WAS MY POINT EARLIER.
11:37:13 YOU KNOW A LOT OF EMPLOYEES HAVE CALLED BECAUSE THEY
11:37:15 HEARD ABOUT THESE CHANGES.
11:37:18 AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN EARLY ON WHEN WE TALK OF MAKING
11:37:19 THESE CHANGES.
11:37:22 BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT MAKE A CERTAIN
11:37:27 SALARY, AND WHEN YOU ARE DEDUCTING THEIR PARKING, YOU
11:37:32 KNOW IN THEIR WEEKLY -- THEIR BIWEEKLY SALARIES, IT
11:37:33 BECOMES A BURDEN.
11:37:36 AND I KNOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME THINGS DOWN THE
11:37:39 ROAD, BUT I JUST WANTED A ORGANIZATION IN UNDERSTAND
11:37:42 THAT SOME EMPLOYEES ARE HURTING PAYING FOR PARKING
11:37:44 EVERY DAY AND FOR THE WEEK.
11:37:46 AND SOME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT PAYING FOR PARKING.
11:37:50 AND I KNOW THAT IT MAY BE A CONTRACTUAL THING, BUT I
11:37:53 WANT TO MAKE SURE ADMINISTRATION CAN LOOK AT THAT
11:37:55 BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE HURTING MORE THAN OTHERS, AND
11:38:00 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PLAYING FIELD IS KIND OF LEVEL
11:38:00 A LITTLE BIT.
11:38:03 I YIELD BACK, SIR.
11:38:07 >> IF I CAN ADDRESS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S CONCERN.
11:38:12 FIRST, THE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON, I DO HAVE THOSE
11:38:14 SLIDES RIGHT NOW.
11:38:17 I AM WILLING TO PRESENT THOSE SLIDES.
11:38:20 THE RATE RESOLUTION DOES SHOW THE MINIMUM AND THE
11:38:24 MAXIMUM RATE, AND THERE IS A REASON WHY WE STRUCTURED
11:38:28 IT THAT WAY, AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION TODAY AS WELL
11:38:31 AS FAR AS WHY WE ARE DOING AND WHAT THE IMPACT IS AND
11:38:36 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN ORDER TO ENSURE EQUITY WHICH IS
11:38:39 VERY CRITICAL TO US IN THESE RATES.
11:38:43 WE HAVE BRIEFED EACH COUNCILMEMBER AS YOU ARE LIKELY
11:38:44 AWARE.
11:38:47 WE HAVE ALSO DONE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THAT THROUGH
11:38:53 THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR YBOR CITY, THE
11:38:57 CHANNEL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
11:39:01 WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH OTHER INSTITUTIONAL PARTNERS
11:39:06 WITHIN OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT AREA.
11:39:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
11:39:12 FOR A TWO-WEEK CONTINUANCE ON THIS.
11:39:14 THIS WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
11:39:17 THIS IMPACTS -- AGREE WITH MR. GUDES, NOT ONLY DOES IT
11:39:21 IMPACT OUR EMPLOYEES BUT ALL PEOPLE WHO COME DOWNTOWN
11:39:24 TO PARK WHETHER THEY ARE TRANSIENT OR REGULAR MONTHLY
11:39:25 PARKERS.
11:39:30 I THINK THAT YOU CAN'T -- THE ADMINISTRATION CAN'T
11:39:33 THROW THESE THINGS AT US THAT ARE EXTREMELY COMPLEX,
11:39:37 THAT ARE EXTREMELY DETAILED, PUTS IT ON CONSENT AND
11:39:39 JUST SAY OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO BLESS THIS.
11:39:43 VIK, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING IN
11:39:46 GENERALITIES FOR COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT THE CONCEPTS
11:39:51 AND NOW WE ARE DOWN TO SPECIFICS AND WE SHOULD HAVE HAD
11:39:54 THIS POWERPOINT, SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON A COUPLE OF
11:39:57 WEEKS AGO, PROVIDED US TO SEPARATELY SO WE COULD LOOK
11:39:59 AT IT AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS, ETC.
11:40:02 I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYBODY'S TIME NOW.
11:40:02 THAT IS NOT FAIR.
11:40:06 I AM GOING TO MOVE A TWO-WEEK CONTINUANCE.
11:40:08 I DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, IN
11:40:15 TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION, ETC.
11:40:20 BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE ON US VOTING INTELLIGENTLY ON
11:40:20 THIS.
11:40:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS OCTOBER
11:40:23 15.
11:40:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR, UNDER STAFF REPORT.
11:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND?
11:40:29 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:40:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:40:33 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:40:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:40:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:40:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:40:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:40:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:40:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE BEEN
11:40:54 IN TOUCH WITH MR. BHIDE, AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS WITH
11:40:59 SEVERAL GROUPS I HAVE THAT MET WITH, EN PEOPLE
11:41:06 DOWNTOWN, -- AND THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR MANY, MANY
11:41:06 MONTHS.
11:41:10 I WILL SAY YES TO THIS MOTION; HOWEVER, I AM STRONGLY
11:41:14 URGING ALL THE COUNCILMAN TO -- TO VOTE FOR THIS --
11:41:17 COUNCILMEMBERS TO -- TO VOTE FOR THIS.
11:41:21 I HEAR COUNCILMAN GUDES, BUT THIS IS -- IT IS A MUCH
11:41:25 NEEDED, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA
11:41:28 AND OTHER PLACES AROUND THE CITY BUT I WILL VOTE FOR
11:41:30 THIS CONTINUANCE.
11:41:31 THANK YOU.
11:41:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:41:34 >>CLERK: MIRANDA.
11:41:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR.
11:41:40 CITRO IS TALKING ABOUT.
11:41:41 I AGREE WITH HIM.
11:41:45 THAT STUDY EVEN INCLUDED HOW MANY VACANT SPACE IN A
11:41:48 PARKING GARAGE WITH SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM -- USING A
11:41:52 COMPUTER SYSTEM TO TELL THE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN WHERE TO GO
11:41:56 PARK WITHOUT POLLUTING THE DOWNTOWN AREA MORE.
11:42:00 AND TELL RIGHT WHERE THE PARKING SPOT TO GO RIGHT TO
11:42:00 IT.
11:42:05 I VOTE YES.
11:42:07 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR.
11:42:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:42:12 >>LUIS VIERA: VERY QUICKLY, WHEN A COUNCILMEMBER 97%
11:42:17 OF A TIME ASKS FOR A REASONABLE CONTINUANCE AS A
11:42:22 COURTESY I SUPPORT IT.
11:42:27 I AM READY TO GO BUT AS COURTESY TO MY COLLEAGUE.
11:42:32 I AGREE ON THAT 97% OF THE TIME.
11:42:33 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR?
11:42:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
11:42:36 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO SAY THE SAME THING.
11:42:39 I WANT TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND I
11:42:47 APPRECIATE MR. BHIDE IN THIS.
11:42:50 I HAVE A BUSINESS THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY EFFECTED BY
11:42:53 THIS BECAUSE WE PAY FOR ALL THE PARKING FOR OUR STAFF
11:42:54 IN YBOR.
11:43:02 AND I -- WE CAN'T HAVE ENTERPRISES LIKE THIS THAT LOSE
11:43:02 MONEY.
11:43:04 WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO COVER THE COST.
11:43:07 IF WE CAN'T, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SELL IT OR
11:43:10 HAVE A LONG-TERM LEASE ON IT.
11:43:14 THESE THINGS WHEN THEY WERE BUILT WERE MEANT TO SPUR ON
11:43:17 DEVELOPMENT AND SOLVE LONG-TERM PROBLEMS.
11:43:19 THEY WILL AT LEAST BREAK EVEN AND IDEALLY BE A PROFIT
11:43:22 CENTER TO FUND OTHER NEEDED PROGRAMS WITHIN THE CITY.
11:43:23 THANK YOU.
11:43:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, BUT JUST A REMINDER, DO
11:43:30 NOT CUT THE CLERK OFF WHEN SHE IS READING THE VOTE.
11:43:32 WAIT UNTIL SHE FINISHES AND THEN IF PEOPLE WANT TO
11:43:33 SPEAK.
11:43:37 CLERK, GO AHEAD WITH THE VOTE AGAIN JUST FOR CLARITY. .
11:43:39 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:43:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:48 ITEM NUMBER 23, THE FINAL PULLED ITEM AND CONTINUE WITH
11:43:55 THE AGENDA AS LISTED.
11:43:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST AS A POINT OF
11:44:01 ORDER ON ITEM 15 WHICH WAS THE WATER ISSUE.
11:44:04 I THINK THE CLERK ANNOUNCED A UNANIMOUS VOTE, BUT I
11:44:07 THINK WE NEED TO SET -- CORRECT THE RECORD THAT WAS
11:44:09 6-1, DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
11:44:13 I MIGHT HAVE HEARD IT WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT HER SAY
11:44:15 "UNANIMOUS."
11:44:17 >>CLERK: THAT IS MY MISTAKE.
11:44:19 I THOUGHT YOU SAID YES.
11:44:22 6-1 WITH DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
11:44:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SORRY, I WON'T MUMBLE NEXT TIME.
11:44:30 ITEM 23.
11:44:32 THIS IS A CONTRACT WITH AMERICAN EXPRESS.
11:44:37 I GUESS WE DO IT REGULARLY WHERE WE -- WE PAY THEM
11:44:39 THEIR FEE.
11:44:42 YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW AMERICAN EXPRESS CHARGES A LITTLE
11:44:46 BIT MORE THAN VISA OR MASTERCARD.
11:44:51 SO I ASK THAT MR. ROGERO, DENNIS, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
11:44:52 IT.
11:44:55 AND DENNIS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
11:44:57 >> I AM, SIR.
11:44:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:45:01 SO THE QUESTIONS I ASKED TO DENNIS, AND I WILL JUST RUN
11:45:02 THROUGH THEM.
11:45:08 I SAID, DO WE -- YOU KNOW, DO WE -- DO WE EAT THAT --
11:45:13 THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE AMEX FEE BUT THE VISA FEE
11:45:16 AND MASTERCARD FEE AND OTHER CREDIT CARDS THAT WE USE
11:45:20 -- THAT WE ACCEPT, BUT DO WE PASS -- PASS ALONG THE FEE
11:45:23 TO THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE CARDS?
11:45:27 YOU KNOW, AND IF NOT, WHY NOT.
11:45:30 HOW MUCH MONEY IS INVOLVED, ETC.
11:45:34 THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I ASKED MR. ROGERO.
11:45:36 AND IF HE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR ALL OF
11:45:37 COUNCIL'S BENEFITS.
11:45:40 AND LET'S HAVE A QUICK DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE CREDIT
11:45:44 CARD ISSUES.
11:45:51 >> YES, SIR, THIS IS DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL
11:45:52 OFFICER.
11:45:55 THE PAST PRACTICE FOR THE CITY NOT TO PASS ALONG THE
11:45:57 CHARGES PER SE.
11:46:01 PAST PRACTICE CITYWISE WHAT WE WANT TO GAIN IN REVENUES
11:46:04 AND SET THE CHARGES TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
11:46:08 ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN THIS, OF COURSE, AS YOU
11:46:13 DISCUSSED WE HAVE FEES TACKED ON CREDIT CARD CHARGES
11:46:17 THAT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE WE ABSORB AND SET
11:46:18 APART THE REVENUE.
11:46:21 ANY NUMBER OF FACTORS CAN INFLUENCE WHETHER WE MEET
11:46:26 THOSE REVENUE PROJECTIONS, THE ECONOMY, CUSTOMER USAGE,
11:46:26 ETC.
11:46:29 BUT TYPICALLY WE SIMPLY ESTABLISH A CHARGE AND MAKE
11:46:30 REVENUE FROM IT.
11:46:36 I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019, WE HAD
11:46:38 ALMOST THREE MILLION CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS RECEIVING
11:46:42 A TOTAL OF $135 MILLION.
11:46:46 AND THE CREDIT CARD FEES WERE NEARLY $3 MILLION.
11:46:48 ABOUT 2% OF THE TOTAL.
11:46:50 A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE FUNDING THAT -- THAT IS
11:46:53 CHARGED AS PART OF THE CREDIT CARD.
11:46:57 AS WE ALSO DISCUSS, OF COURSE, IT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY
11:47:02 FOR OUR CUSTOMER BASE TO US THEIR MONEY.
11:47:06 WE ARE VERY LIMITED IF WE CONFINE IT TO CASH.
11:47:10 BUT IN THIS DAY AND AGE WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER DOING
11:47:10 THAT.
11:47:15 CUSTOMER AND PAY CASH, FOR INSTANCE, OR PAY BY CHECK OR
11:47:17 CREDIT CARD, YOUR FEE IS THE SAME FROM THE CITY'S
11:47:18 PERSPECTIVE.
11:47:21 WE DO NOT ADD A SURCHARGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CREDIT
11:47:24 CARD FEES.
11:47:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO LET'S -- LET'S HAVE AN EXAMPLE,
11:47:28 LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
11:47:34 IF I AM -- IF I AM A MONTHLY PARKER IN ONE OF OUR CITY
11:47:38 GARAGES DOWNTOWN, AND I PAY $100 A MONTH.
11:47:42 IF I -- IF I WRITE A CHECK -- IF I WRITE A CHECK, I PAY
11:47:44 $100.
11:47:49 IF I USE A CREDIT CARD, I PAY THE SAME $100, BUT THE
11:47:55 PERSON WHO WRITES THE CHECK IS SUBSIDIZING THE PERSON
11:47:57 WHO USES THE CREDIT CARD.
11:48:01 IN OTHER WORDS, MY RATE BECAUSE I AM A CHECK PAYER IS A
11:48:05 TINY BIT HIGHER AS COMPARED TO THE PERSON WHO HAD THE
11:48:08 CONVENIENCE OF A CREDIT CARD.
11:48:13 IS THAT ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT?
11:48:15 >> WELL, FIRST, LET ME CLARIFY.
11:48:17 AND I USE THAT EXAMPLE.
11:48:20 IF YOUR CHARGE IS $100 AND YOU PAY BY CHECK.
11:48:24 AND YOUR CHARGE IS $100 AND YOU PAY BY CREDIT CARD,
11:48:27 BOTH CUSTOMERS ARE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT.
11:48:29 I DID HEAR THAT CORRECTLY?
11:48:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY ARE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT,
11:48:36 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE GUY WHO IS PAYING THE -- THE
11:48:41 GUY WHO IS PAYING BY CHECK IS SUBSIDIZING THE FEE THAT
11:48:45 WE ARE BEING CHARGED BY THE CREDIT CARD GUY.
11:48:46 >> UNDERSTOOD.
11:48:50 IT COULD BE VIEWED THAT WAY.
11:48:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN YOU AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION,
11:48:56 YOU SAID -- IT WOULD BE -- IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT WAY
11:48:57 OF DOING THIS.
11:48:59 THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY -- AND I GET THIS.
11:49:02 I THINK I GET THIS FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR.
11:49:06 WHEN I PAY MY TAX BILL, AN ALTERNATIVE TO PAY BY CREDIT
11:49:09 CARD, BUT THE TAX COLLECTOR SAYS, IF YOU PAY BY CREDIT
11:49:13 CARD, WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE YOU, 2% OR 3% OR 5%
11:49:18 SERVICE FEE FOR THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF USING THAT
11:49:19 CREDIT CARD, OKAY.
11:49:24 SO THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT, ISN'T THAT TRUE?
11:49:24 >> YES, SIR.
11:49:27 THERE IS A FEW WAYS WE COULD GO ABOUT IT.
11:49:31 TACK ON TO THE SURCHARGE TO THOSE CUSTOMERS WHO PAY
11:49:34 CREDIT CARDS, OR PROJECT HOW MUCH THAT SURCHARGE WILL
11:49:38 COST THE CITY AND FACTOR THAT INTO A CHARGE FOR ALL
11:49:40 CUSTOMERS.
11:49:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:49:45 BUT I DON'T WANT TO HURT ALL CUSTOMERS.
11:49:47 I THINK IF YOU WANT THE CONVENIENCE TO PAY BY CREDIT
11:49:49 CARD, YOU SHOULD HAVE TO PAY.
11:49:51 YOU SHOULD HAVE TO PAY -- I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD
11:49:55 PROFIT IN IT, BUT IF WE ARE PAYING 2% OR 3% MORE WHICH,
11:49:59 BY THE WAY, AMOUNTS TO -- I THINK YOU SAID $2 MILLION
11:50:02 OR $3 MILLION PER YEAR, I THINK WE SHOULD RECOUP THAT
11:50:05 MONEY FOR THE PEOPLE USING THEIR CREDIT CARDS.
11:50:07 I THINK YOU TOLD ME THAT -- THAT THAT WANTING THAT
11:50:08 DIFFICULT.
11:50:12 AND FRANKLY THAT YOU MIGHT SEE A VOTE, THAT YOU MIGHT
11:50:14 ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT.
11:50:17 >> CFO, I WOULD SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT RECOUP CHARGES TO
11:50:18 THE CITY.
11:50:23 AND WE COULD RESEARCH THAT IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY THE
11:50:25 DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT WE CAN POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE
11:50:28 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT ALSO, OF COURSE, WHAT OTHER
11:50:29 LOCALITIES ARE DOING.
11:50:32 IT SIMPLY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN THE PRACTICE IN THE PAST
11:50:33 HERE.
11:50:37 AND ANOTHER FACTOR THAT I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT, AND
11:50:40 I WILL ELABORATE ON, IT PROVIDES SOME FLEXIBILITY TO
11:50:43 OUR CUSTOMERS IN THEIR METHOD OF PAYMENT.
11:50:46 YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF RECEIVING PAYMENT FOR SERVICES, WE
11:50:49 WOULD -- WE WOULD ALWAYS WANT TO PROVIDE THE MAXIMUM
11:50:51 FLEXIBILITY.
11:50:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I -- I THINK IT IS A
11:50:58 NICE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT
11:50:58 MONEY.
11:51:04 I AM GOING TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 23 WITH AMEX,
11:51:07 BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE PEOPLE
11:51:11 AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THEIR AMEX CARD, BUT WHEN THE
11:51:14 MEETING IS DONE, I WILL MAKE A MOMENT THAT STAFF
11:51:15 INVESTIGATE AND COME BACK TO US ON THIS CREDIT CARD
11:51:19 ISSUE AND HOW WE CAN RECOUP SOME OF THOSE CREDIT CARD
11:51:22 CHARGES IN THE FUTURE.
11:51:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:51:29 MOVE ITEM NUMBER 23.
11:51:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
11:51:31 THANK YOU,
11:51:37 >> YES, SIR.
11:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:51:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND TO MOVE 23.
11:51:45 AND I WANT TO SPEAK TO IT.
11:51:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND
11:51:51 AND GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON IT.
11:51:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CONVENIENCE COST MONEY.
11:51:58 ANYTHING YOU DO -- IN TODAY'S WORLD.
11:52:02 I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEBATE IS ABOUT, 2.15%.
11:52:06 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS PART OWNER OF CAFE PEPE, WE DIDN'T
11:52:12 USE CREDIT CARD OF AMEX BECAUSE 2775 AND RESTAURANT
11:52:15 210, 215, WHATEVER IT WAS.
11:52:20 I DIDN'T USE IT FOR MANY YEARS; HOWEVER, WHEN YOU START
11:52:25 DOING AN ANALYSIS AND I AM NOT SAYING IT HOLDS TRUE FOR
11:52:28 PARKING AND FOOD COST AND GOING OUT AND BUYING THEATRE
11:52:32 TICKETS AND ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT COMPLIES ALSO
11:52:35 DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY TO THE SAME ITEM.
11:52:37 YES, THERE IS A CHARGE BUT ALSO A CONVENIENCE THAT YOU
11:52:39 KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET PAID.
11:52:43 YOU DON'T KNOW IF THE CHECK IS GOING TO BALANCE OR WHAT
11:52:46 ELSE IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND A CONVENIENCE OF SORT THAT
11:52:49 YOU KNOW YOU CAN COUNT ON THAT REVENUE BEING THERE THE
11:52:50 NEXT 48 HOURS.
11:52:52 THE CHECK MAY OR MAY NOT GO THROUGH.
11:52:58 THE CHECK COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BOUNCE -- IT COULD DO A
11:53:01 LOT OF THINGS FOR YOU AND THEN YOU HAVE TO EITHER WRITE
11:53:07 IT OFF OR GO CHASE SOMEBODY FOR $10 OR 20, WHICH I
11:53:07 DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO DO.
11:53:09 THAT IS WHY THE RATES ARE DONE THAT WAY.
11:53:12 I UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION, BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO
11:53:13 DO THAT -- YOU ARE RIGHT.
11:53:16 WHEN YOU GO SPEAK -- WHEN YOU GO PAY YOUR TAXES AND
11:53:18 SAYS IT $10,000.
11:53:19 I AM JUST USING THAT.
11:53:21 THEY ARE GOING TO CHARGE YOU BECAUSE $10,000.
11:53:24 INDIVIDUALLY IT MAY EQUAL TODAY 3 MILLION.
11:53:32 BUT ONE INDIVIDUAL MAKING A PAYMENTS.$135 MILLION.
11:53:35 YOU DARN TO THING I WANT MY MONEY BACK BECAUSE GETTING
11:53:36 $3 MILLION.
11:53:40 IF YOU ARE ONE -- TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE USING THE
11:53:43 PARKING LOT AND IT IS BUILT IN.
11:53:46 FOR THE PURPOSES OF GETTING THE CITY GOING AND WORKING
11:53:50 ON SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE AND YOU CAN ACCOUNT FOR
11:53:51 IT RIGHT AWAY.
11:53:52 I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
11:53:55 THANK YOU, FLORIDA CHAIRMAN.
11:53:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:00 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:54:01 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:54:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:54:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:54:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:54:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:54:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:54:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:54:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:54:18 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:54:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:27 THAT SETTLES THE PULLED ITEMS.
11:54:28 WE WILL GO TO THE AGENDA.
11:54:31 ITEM NUMBER 57.
11:54:36 WITH STAFF REPORTS.
11:54:39 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
11:54:41 ANDREA ZELMAN, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
11:54:45 I DID -- I WAS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE YOU TODAY WITH A
11:54:47 DRAFT APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
11:54:52 I DID SUBMIT A MEMORANDUM ASKING FOR ONE MORE MONTH.
11:54:56 I ALSO INCLUDED IN THE MEMORANDUM JUST A BRIEF STATUS
11:55:00 REPORT TO LET YOU KNOW THE TYPES OF ISSUES I HAVE BEEN
11:55:04 RESEARCHING AND THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WITH WHOM I HAVE
11:55:07 BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THIS.
11:55:10 I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL YOU WANTED ME TO GO INTO,
11:55:15 BUT JUST A TO REMIND EVERYONE, THE ISSUE IS, COUNCILMAN
11:55:19 VIERA AND OFF-LINE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD REACHED
11:55:23 OUT ABOUT THE QUESTION OF ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE SIMILAR
11:55:27 TO WHAT THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG DID, WHERE FOR EVERY
11:55:32 CITY CONTRACT OF A STERN DOLLAR AMOUNT OR MORE, THEY
11:55:37 REQUIRED THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE
11:55:40 OF HOURS DEVOTED TO APPRENTICESHIP LABOR.
11:55:46 AND SO I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS WITH BOTH THE CITY
11:55:47 OF ST. PETERSBURG ATTORNEYS.
11:55:50 I HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO BROWARD COUNTY.
11:55:51 THEY HAVE A SIMILAR ORDINANCE.
11:55:56 I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
11:56:00 LOCAL LABOR UNIONS, AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES OF ABC,
11:56:04 WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE NONUNION LABOR TRADE GROUP.
11:56:08 AND -- AND WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THE ISSUE THAT'S PEOPLE
11:56:11 TEND TO FOCUS ON IS WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE OF HOURS
11:56:14 SHOULD BE, WHAT THE DOLLAR THRESHOLD SHOULD BE.
11:56:18 WHETHER IT IS POSSIBLE TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE IN SUCH A
11:56:22 WAY THAT RATHER THAN PENALIZE SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T
11:56:24 COMPLY, YOU INCENTIVIZE THOSE WHO DO COMPLY.
11:56:31 AND ALSO, THESE ORDINANCES TYPICALLY HAVE WITHIN THEM
11:56:34 THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT IF YOU HAVE MADE A
11:56:41 GOOD-FAITH EFFORT TO HIRE APPRENTICES BUT UNABLE TO
11:56:44 MEET THE HOUR REQUIREMENT OF THE PERCENTAGE.
11:56:49 AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CLARIFYING THAT GOOD FAITH
11:56:49 LANGUAGE.
11:56:52 I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS FROM THOSE IN THE
11:56:56 INDUSTRY, AND, AGAIN, IT -- I WANT TO GET IT RIGHT.
11:56:59 AND OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY BUSY.
11:57:02 I DIDN'T WANT TO ASK FOR A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT
11:57:05 I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, ONE MONTH WOULD BE A REASONABLE
11:57:08 AMOUNT OF TIME TO BRING YOU BACK A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR
11:57:09 YOU TO DISCUSS.
11:57:12 I DON'T SUGGEST THAT YOU SHOULD BE READY TO ADOPT IT, I
11:57:15 THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT TO YOU AT
11:57:18 THAT TIME, AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS IT AND THEN WE CAN
11:57:19 MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.
11:57:21 SO I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:57:23 THANK YOU.
11:57:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:57:26 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:57:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:57:33 I THINK ANDREA FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
11:57:35 I KNOW THAT YOUR OFFICE IS VERY, VERY BUSY AND WE
11:57:37 APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.
11:57:39 THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG
11:57:43 TIME, ALMOST A YEAR, AND THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
11:57:43 SUBJECT.
11:57:47 I -- I -- I DID TALK ON IT FOR A FEW MINUTES BECAUSE I
11:57:48 THINK THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:57:51 I KNOW THAT MISS ZELMAN WANTED MORE TIME ON THIS.
11:57:54 AND I AM TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE TO THAT.
11:57:58 IN MY PRIVATE PRACTICE, I AM THE KING OF EXTENSIONS.
11:58:02 SO I AM TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT, BUT I WANTED TO BRING
11:58:04 UP THIS ISSUE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE
11:58:07 BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW WITH
11:58:11 DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE
11:58:12 KICKED IT UP TO LEGAL.
11:58:15 BECAUSE I THINK IT -- IT IS KIND OF READY TO GO, BUT
11:58:18 THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF CARE AND A LOT
11:58:19 OF TIME.
11:58:23 STARTING IN PROBABLY I AM THINKING JANUARY AND FEBRUARY
11:58:27 OF 2020, I REACHED OUT TO THE PARTIES TO DO THIS THE
11:58:30 RIGHT WAY, AND I BEGAN TO MEET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF
11:58:33 LABOR ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVE FROM
11:58:34 ABC.
11:58:38 WE WOULD ALL MEET TOGETHER, PROBABLY HAD SIX, SEVEN,
11:58:39 EIGHT MEETINGS.
11:58:42 I ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT IN WORKING ON AN ORDINANCE LIKE
11:58:46 THIS, WE NEED TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND REACH OUT --
11:58:49 REACH OUT TO PEOPLE, PEOPLE IN THE SAME ROOM WHO OFTEN
11:58:50 DISAGREE.
11:58:51 THAT IS IMPORTANT.
11:58:53 THAT IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT IN LIGHT OF THE
11:58:57 LITIGATION GOING ON WITH ST. PETE OVER THEIR ORDINANCE.
11:58:59 A LONG TIME AGO, I BEGAN TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE
11:59:00 OBVIOUSLY.
11:59:05 IT IS PIVOTAL THAT WE TAKE A STAND FOR APPRENTICESHIP
11:59:08 FOR WORKING FAMILIES WHILE BEING CONSISTENT WITH
11:59:12 FLORIDA LAW AND AVOIDING, IF WE CAN, LITIGATION.
11:59:16 I WANT TO BE CLEAR THIS IS INITIATIVE ABOUT
11:59:18 APPRENTICESHIPS.
11:59:22 THE ST. PETERSBURG LAWSUIT HAS A LOT MORE POINTS OF
11:59:25 DISTINCTION WITH OURS AS THAT INITIATIVE WAS ON
11:59:27 APPRENTICESHIPS AND OTHER ISSUES.
11:59:31 WHEN IT IS A INITIATIVE ASKED TO BE WRITTEN THAT WILL
11:59:32 BE CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA LAW.
11:59:35 AND IMPROVE THE LIVES OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.
11:59:37 I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:59:41 PRESENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SOME WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
11:59:45 COMPONENTS FOR ENCOURAGEMENT IN THE CITY FOR POINTS.
11:59:46 MS ZELMAN, WHEN I
11:59:55 ASKED HER ABOUT THIS, WE WILL QUESTIONS ON THAT.
11:59:58 IN A POLICY BASIS WITH NEED TO DO MUCH MORE THAN MERE
12:00:01 POINTS.
12:00:04 I THINK THE INCENTIVE IT TEN POINT AND WE CAN DO
12:00:05 BETTER.
12:00:09 AND THE GOOD NEWS IS I HAD A MEETING WITH MAYOR CASTOR
12:00:11 ON THIS AND WILL NOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
12:00:19 ADMINISTRATION AND WE HAVE A FRIEND AND WITH THE MAYOR
12:00:23 ON THIS ISSUE AND THERE ARE A FEW PRINCIPLES IN THIS
12:00:25 ORDINANCE AND DO THIS IN WAYS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH
12:00:29 FLORIDA LAW AND AVOID UNNECESSARY LITIGATION.
12:00:30 YOU KNOW, IN THE MEETINGS THAT I HAVE HAD WITH ABC, AND
12:00:34 WITH LABOR UNIONS, WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING THIS FOR
12:00:37 LARGER CONTRACTS.
12:00:40 OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
12:00:41 WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT BURDENING SMALL BUSINESSES OR
12:00:45 SMALLER CONTRACTS WITH THIS BUT LOOK AT THE LARGER
12:00:48 CONTRACTS.
12:00:49 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE FLORIDA STATE
12:00:51 CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIPS SO THAT THEY ARE GOOD QUALITY.
12:00:56 WE WANT TO HAVE -- AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO SEE
12:01:00 WHICH IS SOME SORT OF A THRESHOLD.
12:01:02 WE TALKED ABOUT 15%.
12:01:06 WE DON'T HAVE UNANIMITY IN THAT REGARD YET BUT SOME SORT
12:01:10 OF A PUSH OR MANDATE FOR THAT WHICH IS GOING TO BE PER
12:01:13 PROJECT, NOT PER TAX, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN SOME OF
12:01:16 OUR MEETINGS, THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME DISAGREEMENTS ON SOME
12:01:19 OF THOSE ISSUES.
12:01:20 BUT THERE'S BEEN ISSUES THAT WE HAD AGREEMENTS ON.
12:01:23 WE HAVE A GOOD DEFINITION OF GOOD FAITH COMPLIANCE, IF WE
12:01:27 HAVE A MANDATE, SOMETHING THAT I KNOW OUR FRIENDS AT ABC
12:01:32 HAVE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL.
12:01:33 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE COMMON SENSE IN THIS
12:01:36 INITIATIVE.
12:01:37 SOMETIMES GOVERNMENT MEANS WELL BUT IS DEVOID OF COMMON
12:01:38 SENSE.
12:01:40 BUT LET'S HAVE COMMON SENSE.
12:01:41 AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, IN OUR
12:01:45 CONTRACTS, PROMOTE THE TAMPA VALUES OF DIVERSITY, THAT
12:01:49 MEANS MAKING SURE THAT ALL PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY GET THE
12:01:53 BENEFITS OF THESE PROGRAMS; THAT MEANS DIVERSITY, THAT
12:01:56 MEANS ACCOUNTABILITY FROM CITY COUNCIL.
12:01:58 WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE CHOICES GOING FORWARD.
12:02:01 YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHOOSE TO MONITOR THE ST. PETERSBURG
12:02:03 LITIGATION AND PLAY IT SAFE TO AN EXTREME, TO A FAULT.
12:02:09 WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS LITIGATION IS GOING TO GO.
12:02:12 IF THIS IS LITIGATION THAT'S GOING TO GO TO A JURY TRIAL
12:02:15 WE COULD BE WAITING FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO BECAUSE OF
12:02:18 COVID.
12:02:18 THAT TO ME IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION.
12:02:20 WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ORDINANCE IN A WAY THAT
12:02:24 IS COLLABORATIVE WITH ALL OF THE PARTIES LIKE WE HAVE
12:02:26 BEEN DOING FOR ALMOST A YEAR RIGHT NOW.
12:02:30 BUT WITH VIGOR AND FULL KNOWLEDGE OF KNOWING THEY ARE
12:02:34 DOING THE RIGHT THING, I THINK WE CAN GO FORWARD IN A
12:02:37 COLLABORATIVE WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WANTING TO HELP
12:02:39 OUT WORKING FAMILIES AND BE CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA LAW.
12:02:44 AND OBVIOUSLY IN THIS REGARD WE ARE IN GREAT HANDS WITH
12:02:48 OUR ATTORNEY.
12:02:48 I JUST WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT THIS ORDINANCE
12:02:52 MEANS.
12:02:52 THIS TO ME IS A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
12:02:56 I HAVE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE.
12:02:59 BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT.
12:03:03 THAT'S WHY I HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH ALL THESE
12:03:05 FOLKS FOR ALMOST A YEAR, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THIS
12:03:09 RIGHT, DO THIS RIGHT.
12:03:10 IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK, WHICH OBVIOUSLY MY OFFICE HAS
12:03:13 BEEN PUTTING IN THE WORK.
12:03:16 THIS PROPOSAL WILL EXPAND ACCESS TO VOCATIONAL TRAINING
12:03:20 THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
12:03:21 WE TAKE A YOUNG PERSON.
12:03:24 AS MANY OF THESE PEOPLE AND THESE PROGRAMS ARE YOUNG AND
12:03:26 PUT THEM ON A PATH TO THE MIDDLE CLASS, A BETTER WAY TO
12:03:30 BETTER HEALTH CARE, BETTER RETIREMENT SECURITY.
12:03:32 THEY CAN BE PUT ON A PATH TO A STEELWORKER OR WELDER OR
12:03:36 CARPENTER, ELECTRICIAN, PLUMBER, PIPEFITTER.
12:03:40 IT AFFIRMS THE IDEA TO MAKE IT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE
12:03:43 TO GO TO COLLEGE.
12:03:44 AND WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT CALLS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE.
12:03:47 WE HEAR A LOT OF CALLS FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY HERE
12:03:50 WITHIN THE CITY.
12:03:52 THIS ORDINANCE DOES THAT.
12:03:53 IF YOU WANT TO PROMOTE SOCIAL JUSTICE, THIS IS YOUR
12:03:57 OPPORTUNITY.
12:03:57 IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT THAT SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE AND
12:04:01 GIVE YOUNG PEOPLE A CHOICE, THIS IS YOUR PROGRAM, THIS IS
12:04:04 YOUR CHANCE.
12:04:06 WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC.
12:04:08 UNEMPLOYMENT HAS GONE UP ABOUT THREE TIMES IN THE LAST
12:04:10 SEVERAL MONTHS.
12:04:12 THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO COMBAT THAT.
12:04:14 AND IF YOU WANT A CITY TO PICK UP VALUES OF PROMOTING
12:04:17 WORK AND WORKING PEOPLE, THEN THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING
12:04:20 THAT DOES THAT.
12:04:21 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF
12:04:24 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT A MAJORITY OF STATE CERTIFIED
12:04:28 APPRENTICESHIPS DON'T COME FROM UNIONS, DON'T COME FROM
12:04:31 UNIONS.
12:04:31 I HAVE DONE THE TOUR A COUPLE OF TIMES FOR THE
12:04:35 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS
12:04:39 AND MAYBE OTHERS.
12:04:40 I ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO THAT.
12:04:42 AGAIN I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT TO THIS
12:04:46 ENDEAVOR FROM THEIR PASTOR, SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IDEA.
12:04:50 DETAILS ARE BEING WORKED OUT BUT THE MAYOR HAS BEEN
12:04:52 SUPPORTIVE.
12:04:52 AND I THANK THE MAYOR, I THANK HER ADMINISTRATION, OUR
12:04:56 HARD-WORKING CITY ATTORNEYS, FOR PUTTING THIS ISSUE
12:04:59 FORWARD AND FOR SUPPORTING US.
12:05:02 AND MY OFFICE IN THIS ENDEAVOR, I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE
12:05:06 MAYOR, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
12:05:08 AND SO MANY OTHER ISSUES.
12:05:09 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT WAYS TO RETIREMENT THAT ARE GOING
12:05:12 TO BE COMING FORWARD IN THESE SKILLED TRADES WITHIN OUR
12:05:15 CITY OF TAMPA.
12:05:16 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
12:05:20 THEN ONE LAST ISSUE WHICH IS A LARGER ISSUE, WE ALWAYS
12:05:24 HEAR ABOUT OUR CITY BEING TALKED ABOUT BEING A MAGNET FOR
12:05:26 OUR BEST AND OUR BRIGHTEST.
12:05:28 AND WE ALWAYS HEAR THAT TERM FROM A LOT OF FOLKS.
12:05:31 AND WE WANT THAT.
12:05:32 BUT THERE IS AN INFERENCE ABOUT THAT TERM THAT'S ALWAYS
12:05:36 BOTHERED ME, WHICH IS THE IDEA THAT WE WANT INFORMATION
12:05:39 WITH MASTERS FROM EMORY OR NOTRE DAME OR COME HERE WITH
12:05:45 MASTERS FROM USF OR WHATEVER TO COME HERE AND WORK AS
12:05:49 ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, CPAS, WHITE COLLAR PROFESSION AND
12:05:54 GOD KNOWS WE WANT THAT.
12:05:56 BUT DOESN'T THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST ALSO INCLUDE THOSE
12:05:59 WHO DON'T HAVE WHITE COLLARS, DOESN'T THE BEST AND THE
12:06:04 BRIGHTEST WHO WORK WITH HANDS AS STEELWORKERS OR
12:06:10 ELECTRICIANS? I THINK FOLKS WHO WORK HARD TO PAY THEIR
12:06:14 TAXES, RAISE KIDS, RAISE FAMILIES, CONTRIBUTE TO OUR
12:06:17 ECONOMY AND THEY FORM THE HEART OF THE CITY AND A LOT OF
12:06:20 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE OUGHT TO HAVE POLICIES EMBEDDED
12:06:23 STRONGLY AND VIGOROUSLY WITHIN OUR CONTRACTING PROCESS,
12:06:28 THAT INCLUDES THOSE WORKING FAMILIES AND THE STORIES THAT
12:06:32 THEY BRING FORWARD, AS THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST WITH
12:06:35 INCENTIVES AND IDEAS THAT MOVE THESE PROGRAMS FORWARD, TO
12:06:41 GROW THAT IN OUR CITY, TO R FOR PEOPLE TO STAY IN OUR
12:06:44 CITY, TO BE WELCOMED IN OUR CITY. SO THAT'S WHY I AM SO
12:06:47 PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
12:06:48 WE HAVE A TOUGH ECONOMY.
12:06:50 LET'S BE THERE FOR PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
12:06:52 AND WHEN WE BOUNCE BACK AND WE GET THAT WE HAVE BACK AS A
12:06:56 CITY, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT OUR WORKERS GET THE BENEFIT OF
12:06:59 THAT THROUGH AN APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
12:07:02 WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER AS A CITY, IN OUR ORDINANCES AND
12:07:06 IN OUR CONTRACTING PROCESS.
12:07:09 ENCOURAGING DIGNITY, SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND A PATHWAY TO
12:07:14 THE MIDDLE CLASS.
12:07:15 WE CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION IN THE CITY.
12:07:17 THAT'S WHY I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND PUSHING THIS
12:07:19 FORWARD.
12:07:20 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
12:07:22 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
12:07:24 AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:07:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:07:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:07:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO SOME OF
12:07:41 THE APPRENTICESHIP WORKSHOPS.
12:07:45 I KNEW A LOT ABOUT APPRENTICESHIPS BECAUSE I WENT TO
12:07:48 TECHNICAL SCHOOL.
12:07:50 I LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS.
12:07:52 THOUGH MONTHS AGO LOOKED AT A PROGRAM THAT WOULD DO SUCH
12:07:59 THINGS ESPECIALLY WITH REHAB PROGRAMS, THOSE ARE FAILING
12:08:05 US, THEY ARE NOT ROBUST ENOUGH, AND HAVING AN
12:08:09 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM ALONG IN OUR CITY, AND SOME OF
12:08:12 THESE COMMUNITIES, ALONG WITH SOME OF THESE CONTRACTORS,
12:08:15 ALONG WITH SOME OF THE BUSINESSES TO HELP STRENGTHEN OUR
12:08:17 COMMUNITIES.
12:08:19 BUT ONE THING I CAN SAY ABOUT THESE CONTRACTS, THERE'S A
12:08:24 COUPLE OF WORDS THAT STICK OUT WITH ME VERY, VERY HIGH
12:08:27 AND TO ME ROBUST ABOUT CONTRACTS.
12:08:35 BUT THESE BUZZ WORDS I DON'T LIKE BECAUSE THEY ARE
12:08:39 ROADBLOCKS AND THEY STOP THE PROGRESS OF PEOPLE GETTING
12:08:42 AN OPPORTUNITY.
12:08:44 GOOD FAITH.
12:08:45 WHAT IS THAT?
12:08:47 AND I WAS TOLD THAT I WANT TO GIVE.
12:08:53 OR I WILL TRY.
12:08:54 A GOOD FAITH EFFORT.
12:08:56 THOSE ARE ALL BUZZ WORD.
12:08:58 THE REAL WORDS MEAN MANDATE, SHALL, WILL.
12:09:02 TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE MONEY ON THE LINE, AND
12:09:05 SPEND MONEY, HOW YOUR MONEY IS SPENT.
12:09:09 SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION USING THOSE TYPES OF WORDS, GOOD
12:09:13 FAITH, TRY, GOOD EFFORT, AND THOSE ARE WORDS TO STOP, AND
12:09:22 WE ARE ON A GOOD TRACK OF MOVING THIS CITY HOPEFULLY, YOU
12:09:25 KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THESE WORD AND GET RID OF
12:09:29 THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD WORDS.
12:09:30 I KNOW A LOT OF LAWYERS USE CAUTIONARY WORDS BUT TO ME
12:09:34 THEY ARE BAD WORDS AND REALLY HURT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES,
12:09:37 CERTAIN PEOPLE.
12:09:37 SO JUST WANT TO CAUTION US WITH THAT.
12:09:39 I WANT TO GO ALONG WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM BUT I
12:09:43 AM NOT REALLY NOTE ON BOARD WITH THAT WORD GOOD FAITH.
12:09:47 AND IN CREATING THIS ORDINANCE, TO ME THAT'S NOT A GOOD
12:09:50 WORD TO BE USED.
12:09:51 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:09:52 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, JUST VERY BRIEFLY TO
12:09:57 CLARIFY, IF I MAY.
12:09:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:09:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:10:00 I APPRECIATE IT.
12:10:01 AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHICH IS WE DON'T WANT
12:10:04 SOMEBODY TO GO ONE PERCENT, I TRIED, BUT THE THINGS WE
12:10:12 TALKED ABOUT IF SOMEBODY SAY THE NUMBER IS 15%, 14.7, FOR
12:10:16 EXAMPLE, AND THEY MADE WHAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, CLARIFIED
12:10:21 THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS AS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT.
12:10:24 THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT WITH COMMON SENSE.
12:10:26 I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, COUNCILMAN GUDES, THAT CAN'T SAY,
12:10:31 HEY, I TRIED, GIVE ME THE TROPHY.
12:10:33 SO I AGREE WITH YOU IN THAT REGARD.
12:10:35 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, JUST TO CLARIFY.
12:10:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:10:41 ANYBODY ELSE?
12:10:42 ALL RIGHT.
12:10:42 HEARING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:10:44 SO YOU WILL COME BACK MS. ZELMAN AT A FUTURE DATE,
12:10:48 CORRECT?
12:10:48 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I BELIEVE I SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR
12:10:51 NOVEMBER 5th BUT IT'S CERTAINLY UP TO COUNCIL IF YOU
12:10:55 PREFER ANOTHER DATE.
12:10:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?
12:10:58 I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION BECAUSE IT IS A STAFF
12:11:01 REPORT.
12:11:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, YOU DO, SIR.
12:11:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:11:07 COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE THE MOTION.
12:11:09 IS THERE A SECOND?
12:11:10 >> SECOND.
12:11:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND, NOVEMBER 5th FOR MS.
12:11:17 ZELMAN TO COME BACK WITH THIS.
12:11:19 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS?
12:11:22 ANY OBJECTION?
12:11:23 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE MOTION PASSES FOR
12:11:26 NOVEMBER 5th.
12:11:28 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:29 WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 58.
12:11:33 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES, IF
12:11:37 SHE'S ON THE LINE, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.
12:11:39 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA, IF I MAY.
12:11:43 I DON'T HAVE -- IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
12:11:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
12:11:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:49 NO, I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO LIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS
12:11:52 OUR CITY IS DOING ON ACCOMMODATING OUR WORKERS.
12:11:57 I MOVED FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND COUNCILMAN GUDES,
12:12:00 THANK YOU, SIR, FOR INCLUDING ALL OF OUR CITY WORKERS.
12:12:04 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT REGARD, COUNCILMAN
12:12:07 GUDES.
12:12:07 ON COVID, ONE OF THE LARGER ISSUES JUST FROM A POLICY
12:12:10 PERSPECTIVE THAT I SEE IN THE FUTURE IS WITH WORKERS'
12:12:12 COMPENSATION, AND COVID-19, THIS IS GOING TO PRESENT SUCH
12:12:18 A MAJOR ISSUE FOR OUR WORKERS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND
12:12:22 THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
12:12:23 WORKERS, NOT JUST OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT PEOPLE IN
12:12:27 SANITATION FOR PUBLIC ENTITY AND PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE
12:12:30 SECTOR WHO ARE BEING PULLED BACK TO WORK, WORKING AT
12:12:33 GROCERY STORES, WORKING WITH PEOPLE, AND THE ISSUE, WHERE
12:12:37 DO THEY GET THE COVID?
12:12:39 AND THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THESE FOLKS MAY BE SIDE
12:12:42 LINED OFF THE JOB TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE WEEKS WITH A
12:12:45 LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES TO THEIR HEALTH FROM COVID-19, AND
12:12:49 IT CAME FROM AN INDUSTRIAL WORKPLACE RELATED.
12:12:55 SO I AM GLAD TO SEE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY
12:12:58 APPEARS TO BE WORKING WELL.
12:13:00 I'M SURE THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN MOVE ON,
12:13:03 ET CETERA.
12:13:03 BUT I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT BECAUSE
12:13:06 THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE.
12:13:08 THE WORKER SAFETY.
12:13:11 WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN OUR WORKERS' COMPENSATION, WHICH IN
12:13:16 FLORIDA I USED TO DO WORK WITH COMP LAW, AND IN 2003,
12:13:22 WITH THE HELP OF THE THEN GOVERNOR JUST TORE THE HEART
12:13:25 OUT OF OUR WORKERS' COMPENSATION.
12:13:27 A COUPLE YEARS LATER, THINGS KIND OF GOT BACK ON TRACK TO
12:13:32 A DEGREE.
12:13:33 BUT WE JUST NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THIS, PEOPLE WHO WANT
12:13:38 TO THEREBY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK ON THE JOB
12:13:41 EVERY DAY, FOR OUR CITY, AND IN THE PROVIDING FOR
12:13:44 SEVERABILITY SECTOR. THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE
12:13:46 FOR POLICY.
12:13:47 AND I HOPE THAT TALLAHASSEE DOES THE RIGHT THING IN
12:13:51 TAKING A LOOK AT THE WORKERS' COMPENSATION STATUTE ON
12:13:57 COVID-19, THE MAJOR ISSUE OF WORKER SAFETY AND DIGNITY.
12:14:00 I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO FOLKS' ATTENTION.
12:14:02 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:14:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:14:04 ANYBODY ELSE?
12:14:09 HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS GOING TO
12:14:11 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM 58?
12:14:15 ALL RIGHT.
12:14:16 HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS
12:14:19 ITEM 59.
12:14:20 A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA REGARDING UNUSED FUNDS
12:14:25 FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ALLOWANCES, AND WHETHER THEY CAN BE
12:14:27 ALLOCATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:14:29 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:14:31 >>MORRIS MASSEY: DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
12:14:37 I SUBMITTED A MEMORANDUM EXPLAINING THAT IN ORDER TO DO
12:14:42 THAT, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A MOTION APPROVED BY CITY
12:14:44 COUNCIL, AND THEN REVENUE AND FINANCE WOULD THEN PREPARE
12:14:47 A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION EFFECTUATING THAT CHANGE TO THE
12:14:53 BUDGET.
12:14:53 IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I AM HAPPY TO RESPOND.
12:14:55 THANK YOU.
12:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THIS IS YOUR
12:14:59 MOTION.
12:14:59 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, RESPONSE?
12:15:05 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA?
12:15:07 ALL RIGHT.
12:15:09 ANYBODY ELSE?
12:15:11 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
12:15:13 CARLSON.
12:15:14 YES, MR. MASSEY, AS I READ IT, WE CAN TRANSFER WITH A
12:15:17 MOTION WITH APPROVAL BY COUNCIL AND MOVE INTO ANY FUND.
12:15:21 LIKE I MENTIONED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I WANTED TO THE MUST
12:15:26 BE ART, AND THAT'S ALLOWED IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL,
12:15:30 CORRECT?
12:15:31 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, YOU CAN DO THAT WITH A MOTION BY
12:15:33 CITY COUNCIL REQUESTING THAT CHANGE IN THE BUDGET, AND
12:15:36 REVENUE AND FINANCE WILL THEN COME FORWARD WITH A
12:15:38 RESOLUTION, FINANCIAL RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BUDGET
12:15:41 WHICH WOULD GO BACK TO COUNCIL THE FOLLOWING NEXT REGULAR
12:15:45 MEETING.
12:15:45 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:15:47 I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
12:15:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MADE THAT MOTION.
12:15:54 AUGUST 27th ABOUT THE LEGALITY.
12:15:58 AND THEY JUST SAID FROM WHAT I HEARD THAT IT IS LEGAL,
12:16:01 YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE PROPER MOTION.
12:16:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:16:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:16:08 ANYBODY ELSE?
12:16:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:16:12 GUDES.
12:16:13 ANYTIME YOU WANT TO MOVE MONEY TO A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT,
12:16:17 THAT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT MOTION, CORRECT?
12:16:19 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS IN DEALING WITH THE ALLOWANCES
12:16:25 PROVIDED TO EACH ONE OF YOU IN THE CITY BUDGET.
12:16:28 IF YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO ANOTHER USE OTHER
12:16:31 THAN FOR YOUR TRAVEL AND OPERATING COSTS ALLOWANCE, THEN
12:16:35 YOU WOULD ASK -- YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION, ASSUMING YOU
12:16:39 HAVE THE SUPPORT OF YOUR OTHER MEMBERS, THAT REVENUE AND
12:16:42 FINANCE WOULD THEN PREPARE A RESOLUTION AFFECTING THAT
12:16:46 CHANGE IN THE CITY BUDGET THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING, BUT
12:16:49 YOU ALLOCATE YOUR ALLOWANCE FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE IN THE
12:16:52 CITY BUDGET.
12:16:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
12:16:56 BUT EVERY TIME YOU WANTED TO DO THAT?
12:16:59 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
12:17:00 COULD YOU DO IT IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE UP YOUR BUDGET FOR
12:17:03 YOUR ENTIRE TERM, YOU COULD ASK THAT THAT BE DONE.
12:17:06 BUT IF YOU DID THAT, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE AN ALLOWANCE IN
12:17:08 THE YEAR WHILE YOU ARE IN OFFICE.
12:17:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:17:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:17:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:17:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
12:17:20 DENNIS, PROBABLY A QUESTION MORE TO DENNIS, OR TO MORRIS.
12:17:27 PERHAPS STATISTICALLY MAYBE THE BEST WAIT TO DO IT AS WE
12:17:31 COME TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, LIKE WHATEVER MONTH,
12:17:35 SEPTEMBER OR SOMETHING, WHERE WE HAVEN'T USED OUR MONEY,
12:17:40 EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONEY THEY
12:17:43 HAVEN'T USED AND PUT TOGETHER ONE CONSOLIDATED MOTION
12:17:46 FROM ALL SEVEN OF US IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE EACH
12:17:50 HAVE LEFT AND HOW WE WANT TO ALLOCATE IT TO DIFFERENT
12:17:53 PLACES.
12:17:54 AND THAT WAY WE ARE NOT BURDENING THE ADMINISTRATION FROM
12:17:57 LOTS OF INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS BUT WE JUST DO IT ONCE A YEAR,
12:18:00 AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE
12:18:03 LEFT.
12:18:03 MR. MIRANDA HAS ALL THE MONEY LEFT, THEN WE CAN JUST DO
12:18:07 IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR AS OPPOSED TO PIECEMEAL.
12:18:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN JUST CHIME IN JUST VERY
12:18:17 BRIEFLY BY WAY OF BACKGROUND.
12:18:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:18:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE WAS A TIME WHEN COUNCIL'S BUDGETS
12:18:25 WERE ROLLED BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND IF THEY WERE
12:18:28 UNSPENT, AND MR. ROGERO CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THAT IF HE
12:18:34 WISHES.
12:18:34 BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHEN A
12:18:37 PREVIOUS COUNCIL MADE -- TOOK ACTION TO SAY THAT ANY
12:18:42 UNSPENT FUNDS WOULD ROLL OVER INTO THAT SAME DISTRICT'S
12:18:46 ACCOUNT.
12:18:47 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE YOU STAND NOW.
12:18:50 SO ANY ACTION OF COUNCIL, YOUR UNSPENT MONEY DOES NOT
12:18:56 ROLL BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND, IT ROLLS FORWARD TO
12:19:00 STAYING IN THE SAME ACCOUNT OF YOUR DISTRICT OFFICE'S
12:19:03 EXPENSES AND BUDGET.
12:19:05 AND THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
12:19:06 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU ARE CORRECT, MR. SHELBY.
12:19:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:19:17 ANYBODY ELSE?
12:19:20 HEARING NO, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 60, TO BE RECEIVED AND
12:19:24 FILED, THE 2020 ETHICS OFFICE AND ETHICS COMMISSION
12:19:27 ANNUAL REPORTS.
12:19:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:19:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:19:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
12:19:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:19:38 ANY OBJECTION?
12:19:39 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT'S RECEIVED AND
12:19:42 FILED.
12:19:43 WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA.
12:19:46 INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL
12:19:48 MEMBERS.
12:19:48 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:19:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:19:52 I HAVE TWO ITEMS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:19:53 ONE IS I BROUGHT UP THE ITEM ABOUT BOAT DOCKS AND THE
12:20:02 ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT APPROVE BOAT DOCKS
12:20:07 THROUGHOUT THE RIVERFRONT BUT ALSO DO A BRIEF STUDY OF
12:20:10 ANY POSSIBILITY OF WATER PARKS AND I BROUGHT THAT UP.
12:20:16 I AM GOING TO SAVE THAT MOTION AND NOT PUT ANYTHING ELSE.
12:20:21 I HOPE THEY WILL BRING IT UP WITHIN 30 OR 60 DAYS.
12:20:24 THAT'S UP TO THEM BUT I KNOW THEY ARE DOING A
12:20:26 COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THE WATERFRONT.
12:20:28 AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
12:20:30 THAT'S ONE.
12:20:30 NUMBER TWO, THE MONEY FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT I GET OR
12:20:37 SUPPOSED TO GET EVERY MONTH, I AM GOING TO MOVE MYSELF,
12:20:43 WHEN I GOT ELECTED TO THE END OF THIS TERM, IT GOES BACK
12:20:46 INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:20:48 I DON'T WANT ANY OF IT.
12:20:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:20:52 MIRANDA.
12:20:52 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:20:53 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND, CARLSON.
12:20:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:20:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:20:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, CONSISTENT
12:21:00 WITH MR. MASSEY'S MOTION -- EXCUSE ME, MEMO, I THINK THE
12:21:05 MOTION WOULD TO BE REQUEST THE BUDGET OFFICER OR WHATEVER
12:21:09 THE APPROPRIATE STAFF MEMBER IS TO BRING BACK A
12:21:11 RESOLUTION TO ALLOW COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THAT IN
12:21:15 A FUTURE AGENDA.
12:21:17 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT.
12:21:24 YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION AND DIRECT OR ASK FOR THE
12:21:28 REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO BRING BACK A FINANCIAL
12:21:31 RESOLUTION AFFECTING THAT CHANGE TO THE CITY BUDGET.
12:21:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE THAT THE REVENUE AND FINANCE
12:21:36 BRING BACK A RESOLUTION ON MY ACCOUNT ONLY, THAT THE
12:21:39 MONEYS THAT I HAVE WHEREVER THE TIME I GOT ELECTED TO THE
12:21:42 TIME I FINISH THIS TERM ALL GOES BACK INTO WHATEVER FUND
12:21:46 THE CITY WANTS TO PUT IT INTO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:21:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE THAT ON NOVEMBER 5?
12:21:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:21:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:22:01 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
12:22:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS
12:22:03 MOTION?
12:22:04 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE MOTION PASSES.
12:22:07 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:22:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.
12:22:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:22:15 COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS, SIR?
12:22:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:21 AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A CITY COUNCIL
12:22:24 COMMENDATION TO BE PRESENTED TO THE 2020 STANLEY CUP
12:22:31 WINNERS TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT
12:22:35 BE PRESENTED AT OUR FIRST IN-PERSON MEETING, HOPEFULLY
12:22:41 WILL BE NOVEMBER 5th.
12:22:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:22:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
12:22:49 ANY OBJECTION?
12:22:55 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION
12:22:58 PASSES.
12:22:59 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:23:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
12:23:02 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
12:23:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY
12:23:07 NEW BUSINESS, SIR?
12:23:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MR. CHAIR.
12:23:15 WITH MR. MIRANDA'S MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
12:23:18 TO ASK THE REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO BRING BACK A
12:23:20 RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER $5,000 FROM MY CITY COUNCIL
12:23:24 EXPENSE FUND TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT
12:23:26 IN THE CITY TO BE USED FOR ARTS IN THE CITY COUNCIL
12:23:29 CHAMBERS, AND IN DISTRICT 4 FOR PUBLIC ART.
12:23:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:23:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE NOVEMBER 5th, THE
12:23:36 SAME AS MIRANDA'S DATE?
12:23:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
12:23:39 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
12:23:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:23:41 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
12:23:45 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE MOTION PASSES.
12:23:49 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:23:53 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, I MET WITH HOMELESS ADVOCATES SOUTH
12:23:56 OF GANDY AND SOUTH TAMPA YESTERDAY AND THERE WAS A
12:24:00 SOBERING CONVERSATION AND I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE HAD
12:24:02 CONVERSATION WITH THEM AS WELL.
12:24:03 I TALKED TO CHIEF BENNETT WHO IS AN EXPERT ON HOMELESS
12:24:06 ISSUES AND HE'S ON IT WITH THEIR DEPARTMENT, BUT THE
12:24:09 NUMBERS THEY WERE TELLING ME YESTERDAY, THE UNOFFICIAL
12:24:12 NUMBERS ARE AS MANY AS 1,000 HOMELESS PEOPLE IN SOUTH
12:24:16 TAMPA.
12:24:16 PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT BEING HOMELESS PEOPLE AND
12:24:21 THESE ARE NOT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
12:24:24 BEEN LIVING IN SOUTH TAMPA AND CAN NO LONGER AFFORD THEIR
12:24:27 HOMES, FAMILIES AND KIDS.
12:24:29 WE KNOW WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
12:24:32 BUT WE EVEN HAVE A HOMELESS ISSUE AND HOMELESS CRISIS IN
12:24:36 SOUTH TAMPA.
12:24:37 AND SO I APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION'S HELP IN
12:24:39 ADDRESSING THAT.
12:24:40 I WON'T PASS A MOTION BUT I APPRECIATE THEIR HELP.
12:24:43 ALSO, THANK YOU ALL LAST WEEK FOR APPROVING THE
12:24:46 ACCOMMODATIONS FOR JACK HARRIS, COUNCILMAN CITRO
12:24:50 VOLUNTEERED TO GO WITH ME AND HE WAS VERY, VERY HAPPY AND
12:24:53 APPRECIATIVE AND WE TOLD HIM THAT IT CAME FROM ALL OF US
12:24:56 SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
12:24:58 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:24:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE
12:25:01 ANY NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME, SIR?
12:25:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
12:25:05 A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
12:25:09 I BELIEVE THIS COMING WORKSHOP IS OUR CHAPTER 27 ZONING
12:25:16 WORKSHOP.
12:25:17 IS THAT CORRECT?
12:25:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
12:25:18 THAT'S THE LENGTHY ONE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
12:25:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:25:22 I HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MS. ZELMAN AND SOME
12:25:27 PEOPLE ABOUT TWO ITEMS AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO INCLUDE
12:25:31 THOSE TWO ITEMS IN THE DISCUSSION AT THE WORKSHOP, AND
12:25:36 SPECIFICALLY TO INCLUDE THE TWO ITEMS.
12:25:41 MY INTENT IS TO INCLUDE THE TWO ITEMS IN OUR NEXT ROUND
12:25:44 OF CHAPTER 27 CHANGES.
12:25:47 MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, WE ALL UNANIMOUSLY SAID WE WANT TO
12:25:51 EXPAND THE FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE.
12:25:56 AND THEN IT NEVER HAPPENED.
12:25:57 WE WANTED TO EXPAND IT OUT OF RS 50 AND EXPAND IT TO ALL
12:26:02 THE DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND IT NEVER HAPPENED,
12:26:05 AND I UNDERSTAND CATHY COYLE LEFT AND THEN WE HAD COVID,
12:26:09 ET CETERA.
12:26:10 BUT I DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE GO TO ANOTHER ROUND OF
12:26:13 ANOTHER ROUND.
12:26:15 SO I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THE FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE
12:26:18 AMENDMENT IN THIS NEXT CYCLE SO MS. ZELMAN AND MS. POST
12:26:25 ARE PREPARING.
12:26:27 SO THAT'S MY FIRST MOTION.
12:26:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:26:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:26:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS FROM
12:26:35 COUNCILMAN MIND.
12:26:36 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
12:26:37 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT MOTION PASSES.
12:26:40 GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:26:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MY NEXT ONE, AND I ALREADY
12:26:43 ADDRESSED THIS WITH MS. ZELMAN, IS MANY YEARS AGO, FOR
12:26:47 SOME REASON, CITY COUNCIL TIED BOTH HANDS IN REGARD TO
12:26:50 CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENTS.
12:26:52 AND WHAT WE DID IS WE BASICALLY HANDED OUR ORDINANCE OVER
12:26:58 TO THE ZONING DEPARTMENT AND SAID COME BACK TO US EVERY
12:27:02 TWO YEARS WITH A CYCLE, A ONE HALF-YEAR CYCLE OF ZONING
12:27:09 CHANGES.
12:27:10 AND WHAT HAPPENED, SOMETIMES PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WILL
12:27:15 BRING A GOOD IDEA TO US THAT IS A CHANGE IN CHAPTER 27
12:27:19 THAT FRANKLY WE COULD ENACT WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO, BUT
12:27:23 INSTEAD WE GET TOLD, OH, YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT
12:27:26 CYCLE, YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT CYCLE.
12:27:29 THAT'S NOT CODIFIED IN CHAPTER 27-151.
12:27:33 SO AT THE WORKSHOP I WOULD LIKE US TO ADDRESS CHAPTER
12:27:36 27-151, AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE
12:27:39 OUR HANDS TIED.
12:27:41 A VOTE ON THIS MOTION DOES NOT MEAN YOU VOTE -- THAT YOU
12:27:44 AGREE WITH ME.
12:27:45 IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DISCUSS IT ON THE
12:27:47 OCTOBER WORKSHOP.
12:27:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:27:52 DINGFELDER.
12:27:52 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:27:53 >> SECOND.
12:27:56 [NO ENCODER]
12:28:22 >> -- DOWNTOWN ON THE ROOF OF THE CONVENTION CENTER IS A
12:28:25 LOGICAL PLACE FOR IT.
12:28:26 SO I WOULD ASK THAT STAFF, INCLUDING OUR SUSTAINABILITY
12:28:31 OFFICER AS WELL AS THE CONVENTION STAFF AND MS. POST,
12:28:33 COME BACK TO US NO LATER THAN JANUARY -- WELL, I GUESS
12:28:37 YOU WANT -- WHY DON'T WE SAY THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING
12:28:41 IN JANUARY UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:28:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WOULD BE -- WE HAVE A REGULAR
12:28:51 MEETING ON THE 14th.
12:28:55 THEN WE ARE CLOSED FOR -- WELL, WE HAVE THE HOLIDAY AND
12:28:58 STUFF.
12:28:58 THE 21st IS CRA AND THEN THE 28th IS A WORKSHOP.
12:29:02 IT WOULD HAVE TO BE JANUARY 14th.
12:29:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL GO WITH THE FIRST IN FEBRUARY,
12:29:08 WHENEVER THAT WILL BE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:29:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 4 AT 9 A.M.
12:29:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S GO TO 2-4-2021 AT 9 A.M. UNDER
12:29:17 STAFF REPORTS.
12:29:18 FOR A REPORT ON THE FEASIBILITY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER
12:29:24 ROOF.
12:29:24 >> MR. DINGFELDER?
12:29:32 IF I MAY ENTER THIS CONVERSATION. THIS IS CAROLE POST.
12:29:36 >> SURE.
12:29:40 >>CAROLE POST: I APPRECIATE WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER
12:29:44 DURING OUR PRESENTATION AND WE 100% AGREE WITH THE
12:29:47 EFFORTS TO MOVE FORWARD TO BRING A MORE SUSTAINABLE
12:29:51 FACILITY TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
12:29:53 THAT IS IN FACT AN ENORMOUS PART OF THE PLANNING THAT
12:29:57 WILL BE UNDERWAY WITH THE SKANSKA TEAM, IN FACT IS
12:30:03 INCORPORATED INTO THAT CAPITAL PLAN TO INCORPORATE
12:30:06 SUSTAINABILITY FEATURES THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.
12:30:09 AND I ONLY MENTION IT WITH RESPECT TO PERHAPS ALIGNING
12:30:13 THE TIMING OF OUR REPORT BACK TO YOU WITH THE DESIGN --
12:30:18 WITH THE TIMING OF THE DESIGN PLAN THAT SKANSKA WILL BE
12:30:23 PROCEEDING WITH.
12:30:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THAT, CAROLE.
12:30:27 AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE WAY AHEAD OF US.
12:30:29 BUT WHY DON'T WE DO THIS PROCEDURALLY?
12:30:32 HOW ABOUT LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 4th.
12:30:35 ON FEBRUARY 4th YOU CAN COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, GUESS
12:30:38 WHAT, SKANSKA IS GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO US IN APRIL
12:30:47 OR MAY.
12:30:48 SO LET'S DO IT ON FEBRUARY 4th.
12:30:51 AND THEN IT WILL BE --
12:30:55 >>CAROLE POST: NO PROBLEM.
12:30:56 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:30:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND?
12:30:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:31:01 MAY I SPEAK?
12:31:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:31:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A REPORT ON THAT ITEM, AND IT HAD TWO
12:31:12 OR THREE AREAS WHETHER YOU WANT TO RENT, WHETHER YOU WANT
12:31:16 TO BUY, SUBLEASE.
12:31:18 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID BUT I KNOW TWO OR THREE WEEKS
12:31:21 AGO, MAYBE FURTHER BACK, BUT I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND
12:31:26 SUPPORT IT 100%.
12:31:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:31:28 ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
12:31:31 HEARING NONE, THE MOTION PASSES.
12:31:33 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
12:31:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE CREDIT CARD ITEM, MR. ROGERO GOT
12:31:40 VERY EXCITED WHEN I -- HE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS THE
12:31:44 OTHER DAY ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF GENERATING AN
12:31:47 ADDITIONAL $2 OR $3 MILLION IN CREDIT CARD FEES.
12:31:50 I DON'T THINK IT'S PUNITIVE.
12:31:52 FRANKLY, I THINK IT HAPPENS ALL ACROSS OUR SOCIETY,
12:31:55 INCLUDING VARIOUS PARTS OF OTHER PARTS OF GOVERNMENT.
12:31:59 I DON'T THINK THAT NON-CREDIT CARD USERS SHOULD BE
12:32:04 SUPPORTING CREDIT CARD USERS.
12:32:06 I THINK IT SHOULD BE PAY AS YOU GO.
12:32:11 THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
12:32:13 I WOULD LIKE A STAFF REPORT.
12:32:14 MR. ROGERO, HOW MANY HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU LIKE BEFORE
12:32:19 TO COME BACK ON THAT CREDIT CARD ISSUE?
12:32:29 OR MR. BENNETT?
12:32:30 >>JOHN BENNETT: MR. ROGERO IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE
12:32:33 MOMENT.
12:32:33 BUT I THINK 30 DAYS.
12:32:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOME THAT SOUND A LITTLE TIGHT.
12:32:43 WHY DON'T WE GO WITH THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER?
12:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DECEMBER 3rd UNDER STAFF
12:32:49 REPORTS.
12:32:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEAUTIFUL.
12:32:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS MOTION?
12:32:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SECOND THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:32:56 MAY I SPEAK ON IT?
12:32:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
12:32:57 GO AHEAD.
12:32:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND IN THAT REPORT, IF I CAN FIND OUT
12:33:02 WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE
12:33:05 THAT PAY BY CHECK OR OTHER MEANS OTHER THAN CREDIT CARDS.
12:33:08 I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
12:33:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MR. MIRANDA, I LOOK FORWARD TO
12:33:13 THAT REPORT AS WELL WITH THOSE SPECIFICS.
12:33:15 AND DENNIS AND I WERE TALKING.
12:33:17 HE SAID THEY USE CREDIT CARDS ACROSS THE CITY IN A WIDE
12:33:23 VARIETY OF CONTEXTS.
12:33:24 I THINK PEOPLE PAY THEIR WATER BILLS WITH CREDIT CARDS
12:33:27 SOMETIMES.
12:33:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON
12:33:34 WITH THE REST OF THE CITY.
12:33:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHAT DEPARTMENTS, WHAT THE REVENUE
12:33:38 IS FROM CREDIT CARDS AND GIVE US HIS RECOMMENDATION.
12:33:41 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:33:42 THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
12:33:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:33:44 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION ON THE MOTION?
12:33:49 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE MOTION PASSES.
12:33:51 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
12:33:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD TODAY.
12:33:55 THANK YOU.
12:33:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU HAVE
12:33:57 ANYTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS?
12:33:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, A COUPLE OF ITEMS, SIR.
12:34:00 NUMBER ONE, ON NOVEMBER 12, WE HAVE WHAT I CALL A
12:34:04 TRAILBLAZER OF THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY CHAIR THIS LAST
12:34:10 BOARD MEETING, AND HE SERVED IN COMMERCIAL ENTITIES.
12:34:19 I WOULD LIKE THE FOUNDATION ON NOVEMBER 12TH AND ALSO A
12:34:26 PROCLAMATION AS WELL.
12:34:27 AND LASTLY, IF WE CAN FIND SOME TYPE OF LANDMARK FOR MR.
12:34:32 MILLER'S NAME, AGAIN HE'S DONE A FABULOUS JOB AS A LEADER
12:34:38 IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
12:34:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:34:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:34:43 GUDES.
12:34:44 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:34:45 ANY OBJECTIONS?
12:34:47 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE MOTION
12:34:50 PASSES.
12:34:52 ANYTHING ELSE?
12:34:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL CALLS IN
12:34:57 REFERENCE TO WILLIAMS PARK.
12:35:13 MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, MAYBE LESS, PREVIOUS
12:35:17 COUNCILS ELECTED TO HAVE A 750 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
12:35:25 THAT WAS TOO SMALL BUT AT THE TIME THAT'S WHAT THEY GOT.
12:35:28 I WENT OUT THERE.
12:35:29 I SEE SEVERAL PROBLEMS WITH THE BUILDING.
12:35:36 RAILS, GUTTERS, COLORS OF THE BUILDING, THE AC UNIT IS
12:35:43 NOT WORKING IN THE BUILDING.
12:35:47 I WOULD LIKE A REPORT FROM CONTRACT SERVICES AND THE
12:35:51 RECREATION DEPARTMENT ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS
12:35:54 BUILDING, WHY THESE THINGS ARE NOT TAKEN CARE OF.
12:35:59 MONEY WAS PUT IN, $500,000, BUT TO ME, 750 SQUARE FEET
12:36:05 AND $500,000 FOR A BUILDING, FOR 750 SQUARE FEET. SO I
12:36:12 ASK FOR A REPORT BACK FROM CONTRACT SERVICES IN RELATION
12:36:17 TO THE BUILDING.
12:36:19 I SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT JUST DON'T SEEM RIGHT WHEN I
12:36:22 DID MY TOUR.
12:36:23 AND I SUGGEST THAT OTHER COUNCILMEN TAKE A LOOK.
12:36:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THE REPORT BACK?
12:36:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK IT SHOULD ONLY TAKE THEM TWO
12:36:34 WEEKS TO COME BACK WITH A STAFF REPORT ON THAT.
12:36:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:36:37 TWO WEEKS WILL BE OCTOBER 15th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:36:41 I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:36:44 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
12:36:45 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
12:36:51 YES, SIR.
12:36:52 YOU KNOW, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE PASSED AS PART OF THE
12:36:55 FISCAL YEAR 2018 BUDGET.
12:36:57 AND HOPEFULLY THESE ISSUES CAN BE ADDRESSED AND WHATNOT.
12:37:03 BUT THAT WAS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE EAST TAMPA AREA,
12:37:08 THE WILLIAMS PARK IMPROVEMENT.
12:37:09 I KNOW THAT YEAR WE ALSO HAD VILLA PARKS, NEW TAMPA REC
12:37:16 CENTER.
12:37:16 SO I HOPE THAT THIS -- THANK YOU, SIR.
12:37:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND A PRESENTATION, AND JUST A LOT OF
12:37:28 THINGS THAT I SEE THESE WRONG WITH THE BUILDING THAT I
12:37:31 WANT THIS MONEY PUT TOWARDS THE CONDITION.
12:37:36 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
12:37:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE
12:37:39 MOTION?
12:37:41 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.
12:37:43 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:37:48 COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING UNDER NEW
12:37:50 BUSINESS?
12:37:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:37:53 I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION LATER ON FOR FUNDS WITHIN MY
12:37:59 ACCOUNT.
12:38:01 BUT I ALSO WANTED TO THANK -- I KNOW TOMORROW WE HAVE A
12:38:05 RETIREMENT GET TOGETHER FOR DEBBY ROTOLLO WHO WORKED WITH
12:38:10 THE CITY FOR 42 YEARS, AND SHE'S ALWAYS THE INDIVIDUAL
12:38:12 WHO WORKS BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL, STAFF AND THE
12:38:15 ADMINISTRATION, AND DURING MY TIME AS CHAIR, DEBBY WAS
12:38:19 JUST SUCH A PLEASURE AND STILL IS, SHE'S SUCH A NICE
12:38:25 LADY, AND WHEN YOU WORK WITH AN OFFICE LIKE THAT AND YOU
12:38:29 ARE THE FACE OF THAT OFFICE, FOR PEOPLE WHO CONTACT THAT
12:38:32 OFFICE, THAT IS SO IMPORTANT, TO HAVE A PERSON WHO IS A
12:38:36 HARD WORKER, WHO CAN BE TRUSTED, WHO IS GOING TO PUT THAT
12:38:40 GOOD FOOT FORWARD.
12:38:43 AND DEBBY HAS ALWAYS, ALWAYS ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
12:38:45 AND SHE'S JUST A HARD WORKER.
12:38:47 AND MY RECOGNING IS SHE'S ALSO A GOOD PERSON.
12:38:51 SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO DEBBY.
12:38:54 I HOPE YOU ALL AGREE WITH THAT.
12:38:56 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:38:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:38:58 AND FOR MYSELF HERE, I AM GLAD THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
12:39:03 BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE UNUSED FUND.
12:39:05 I SEE THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS ALREADY MADE A MOTION.
12:39:08 I DON'T KNOW WHAT I HAVE IN THE ACCOUNT BUT I WILL LOOK
12:39:10 AND SEE AND THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION AT A FUTURE MEETING
12:39:13 TO REALLOCATE THOSE TO SOMETHING WORTHY, AND I WILL ECHO
12:39:22 WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID ABOUT DEBBY ROTELLO.
12:39:27 SHE WILL BE MISSED AFTER SO MANY YEARS AT THE CITY OF
12:39:30 TAMPA AND WE WILL DEFINITELY MISS HER AND WISH HER ALL
12:39:34 THE BEST IN THE FUTURE.
12:39:35 THAT'S IT.
12:39:36 IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE --
12:39:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:39:42 HAS THIS COUNCIL GIVEN DEBBY A COMMENDATION?
12:39:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:39:49 I MADE THAT MOTION SOME TIME BACK, AND THE ACCOMMODATION
12:39:53 WILL BE GIVEN TO HER TOMORROW AT 12:00 ON THE 8th
12:39:57 FLOOR OF CITY HALL.
12:39:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
12:40:00 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T DROP THAT BALL.
12:40:02 I APPRECIATE IT.
12:40:03 >> CITY COUNCIL AGENDA THE 22ND.
12:40:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
12:40:14 FILE?
12:40:15 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:40:16 IS THERE A SECOND?
12:40:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
12:40:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:40:21 IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION?
12:40:23 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND
12:40:26 FILED THE DOCUMENTS.
12:40:28 REMEMBER WE START BACK AT 5:01 P.M.
12:40:31 IT WILL BE A LONG NIGHT.
12:40:32 SO GET RESTED.
12:40:36 WE ARE DONE.
12:40:37 THANK YOU.
12:40:39 (MEETING ADJOURNED)
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