TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2020
5:01 P.M. SESSION
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05:01:22
05:01:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
05:01:51 >>LUIS VIERA: (NO RESPONSE)
05:02:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:02:04 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:02:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
05:02:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:02:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:02:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:02:17 ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY.
05:02:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:02:20 GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
05:02:22 I'M MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:02:24 TONIGHT'S MEETING, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1st OF 2020, IS
05:02:29 BEING SCHEDULED TO CONDUCT QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS AND
05:02:33 OTHER LAND USE MATTERS.
05:02:35 THIS USING MEDIA COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY.
05:02:40 THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD IN ACCORDANCE AS AMENDED AND
05:02:45 EXTENDED ORIGINALLY BY EXECUTIVE ORDER 20-69 AND AMENDED
05:02:50 AND EXTENDED BY 20-246 JUST SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR
05:02:55 YESTERDAY, AND BY THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS
05:02:59 ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
05:03:02 AS I SAID, IT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY VIDEO TELECONFERENCING
05:03:05 WHICH IS REMOTE PARTICIPATION REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF
05:03:08 FLORIDA AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, OTHERWISE
05:03:12 KNOWN AS CST.
05:03:14 TONIGHT THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO
05:03:17 WATCH AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640,
05:03:20 FRONTIER 16 AND ON THE AREN'T AT
05:03:23 WWW.TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD.
05:03:32 COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ABLE TO ARRANGE FOR THE
05:03:36 ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE.
05:03:38 ONE WAY IS BY WRITTEN MATERIAL, VIA E-MAIL OR U.S. MAIL,
05:03:43 AND THOSE WRITTEN MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY
05:03:49 THE DEADLINE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL AND
05:03:52 UPLOADED TO THE HEARING AGENDA AT TAMPAGOV.NET/AGENDA.
05:03:58 NOW, THEY ARE ALSO ABLE TO PARTICIPATE LIVE BY
05:04:01 REGISTERING OR HAVING REGISTERED IN ADVANCE TO SPEAK LIVE
05:04:05 VIA CST AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS WERE AVAILABLE AND ARE
05:04:12 AVAILABLE AT TAMPAGOV.NET/QUASI.
05:04:18 NOW THOSE PEOPLE HONOR DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATION MEDIA
05:04:20 TECHNOLOGY HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO A CMT DEVICE, AND THEY
05:04:25 MAY UTILIZE THE FACILITIES LOCATED TINNITUS AT THE TAMPA
05:04:29 CONVENTION CENTER, 333 SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET IN TAMPA.
05:04:34 AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE, AND I TURN
05:04:38 THE MEETING BACK TO YOU.
05:04:40 THANK YOU.
05:04:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
05:04:42 BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE AGENDA, MARY SAMANIEGO, DO WE
05:04:48 HAVE ANY HOUSEKEEPING OR ANYTHING?
05:04:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, SIR.
05:04:51 WE ARE READY TO PROCEED.
05:04:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:04:54 WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:04:56 CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
05:04:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
05:05:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 1 THROUGH 10.
05:05:02 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:05:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:05 ANY OBJECTION?
05:05:06 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARINGSS
05:05:09 ARE OPEN.
05:05:10 WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:05:11 >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:05:16 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN?
05:05:29 THIS IS TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NUMBER 19-20, SOUTH
05:05:34 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:05:40 SOUTH OF WEST DeLEON STREET, NORTH OF WEST SWANN
05:05:44 AVENUE, AND THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED LARGE SCALE
05:05:53 AMENDMENT FROM PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
05:05:57 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, AND THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
05:06:02 REFERS TO THE ENTIRE SITE BY PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC.
05:06:07 I HAVE SOME SITE PICTURES OF WEST DeLEON STREET, AND
05:06:16 THIS IS ANOTHER PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT.
05:06:18 AND THEN THIS IS WEST TOWARDS THE MAIN HOSPITAL BUILDING
05:06:22 AREA.
05:06:23 ON THE WEST HAND SIDE OF THE STREET.
05:06:27 THE MEDICAL OFFICES IN THE AREA ON WEST DeLEON.
05:06:31 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE AS I SAID BEFORE HAS SEVERAL
05:06:34 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
05:06:35 THERE IS THE PUBLIC-NONPUBLIC, THE RESIDENCE WHICH IS
05:06:42 DARKER BROWN, COMMUNITY PERSONAL 35 IN RED AND COMMUNITY
05:06:45 MIXED USE 35 IN THE PINK COLOR.
05:06:48 TO THE SOUTH IS RESIDENTIAL 6, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
05:06:53 NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, AND WEST SWANN AVENUE AT THE
05:06:59 BORDER BETWEEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE SOUTH, AND
05:07:06 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] PUBLIC AND SEMI-PUBLIC.
05:07:10 SO THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR 188 DWELLING UNITS AND
05:07:16 APPROXIMATELY 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF ARCHITECTURE.
05:07:20 THERE IS NO MAXIMUM POTENTIAL.
05:07:26 YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA ZONING.
05:07:33 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE
05:07:36 THE PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC SUPPORTS PUBLIC USES WHICH INCLUDES
05:07:40 HOSPITALS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SEEK TO IMPLEMENT
05:07:44 TAMPA'S NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALSO WILL STATE THAT
05:07:47 NON-ESSENTIAL USES ARE ENCOURAGED TO COMPATIBLE
05:07:52 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS HOSPITAL HAS BEEN IN THE
05:07:54 NEIGHBORHOOD APPROXIMATELY 40 YEARS.
05:07:57 THE HOSPITAL -- ZONING, ET CETERA.
05:08:07 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:08:14 NEXT UP?
05:08:31 ALL RIGHT, WHO IS NEXT?
05:08:33 >> SHOULD BE HERE AND MAKE HER PRESENTATION, CORRECT?
05:08:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT LOGGED IN?
05:08:45 >>THE CLERK: I DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTRATION AS FAR AS
05:08:50 THE APPLICANT IS CONCERNED.
05:08:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING FROM THE CITY?
05:08:54 >> THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST.
05:09:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY?
05:09:05 IT'S.
05:09:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S RATHER UNUSUAL THAT WE WOULDN'T
05:09:09 HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE.
05:09:14 IT'S A FIRST READING.
05:09:18 EVEN IF THERE WERE PUBLIC COMMENT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD
05:09:20 BE APPROPRIATE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE ABSENCE OF
05:09:23 AN APPLICANT.
05:09:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN WE MOVE IT TO THE END OF THE
05:09:28 MEETING?
05:09:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND SOMEBODY FROM STAFF CAN REACH OUT
05:09:32 TO THE APPLICANT.
05:09:33 >>THE CLERK: GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
05:09:37 I HAVE SOMEONE IN THE -- THEY ARE THE APPLICANT.
05:09:42 THEY DID NOT REFERENCE THAT.
05:09:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN.
05:09:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO. THIS IS A
05:09:50 NONQUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.
05:09:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
05:09:52 >> GOOD EVENING.
05:09:55 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
05:09:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, PLEASE?
05:10:01 >> THERE WE GO.
05:10:05 >> I THOUGHT I REGISTERED AS THE APPLICANT.
05:10:06 MY APOLOGIES.
05:10:08 FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US AND CITY
05:10:14 STAFF.
05:10:14 I KNOW THINGS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE CRAZY WITH THE
05:10:17 CORONAVIRUS AND PROTESTS AND SO FORTH.
05:10:19 SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR ITEM THIS EVENING.
05:10:24 I REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO JENNIFER'S
05:10:28 PRESENTATION.
05:10:31 ONLY THE HOSPITAL IS INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT ALL
05:10:34 THE LAND USES ARE CONSISTENT ON THE CAMPUS, AND MAKE SURE
05:10:39 THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE OF USE THAT IT IS
05:10:43 CURRENTLY AND WHAT IT MAY BE, AND UNDERSTAND IF THEY DO
05:10:48 HAVE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO DO, IT WILL NEED TO
05:10:51 BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW LAND USE, AND WILL HAVE TO
05:10:55 COME BACK AND LIKELY DO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REZONING,
05:10:58 IN WHICH CASE YOU WILL SEE A SITE PLAN AND MASTER PLAN
05:11:06 FOR THE CAMPUS.
05:11:07 NOTHING REALLY ELSE TO ADD BUT WE DO REFER TO STAFF'S
05:11:11 REPORT AND ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:11:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
05:11:17 HEARING NONE, DOES ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK
05:11:21 ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 1?
05:11:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:11:29 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
05:11:32 ITEM.
05:11:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
05:11:33 CENTER?
05:11:39 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:11:40 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:11:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
05:11:44 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:11:45 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:11:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD, IS THERE
05:11:49 ANY WRITTEN MATERIAL ON THIS ITEM?
05:11:54 >>THE CLERK: NO WRITTEN COMMENT RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
05:11:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MIRANDA.
05:12:00 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:12:01 ANY OBJECTION?
05:12:02 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS OH
05:12:05 CLOSED.
05:12:06 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE
05:12:08 SUBSTITUTE?
05:12:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE FILE NUMBER 1, PA 19-20, I
05:12:16 MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
05:12:18 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE
05:12:22 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT,
05:12:26 FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
05:12:30 AT 2901 WEST SWANN AVENUE, 2618 WEST DeLEON STREET AND
05:12:37 2916 [SIC] WEST DeLEON STREET FROM PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC
05:12:41 P/SP COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, CC-35, COMMUNITY MIXED USE
05:12:49 35, CMU-35, AND RESIDENTIAL 20, R-20, TO
05:12:56 PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC P/SP PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
05:13:03 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
05:13:06 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:13:06 >> SECOND.
05:13:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:13:12 MS. WELLS.
05:13:13 >>CATE WELLS: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THAT
05:13:15 ADDRESS, IT'S 2619 WEST DeLEON ROAD.
05:13:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 2619?
05:13:30 OKAY.
05:13:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:13:33 LET'S HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE.
05:13:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:13:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:13:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:13:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:13:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:13:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:13:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:13:49 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING
05:13:52 AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 5th AT 9:30
05:13:55 A.M.
05:13:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:14:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN WE MOVE ON, JUST SO YOU KNOW,
05:14:02 THAT -- AND THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THIS HEARING BUT IT'S
05:14:06 RELATED TO WHEN THE SECOND READINGS WILL BE SCHEDULED.
05:14:10 AS NOW THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WAS SIGNED
05:14:12 LAST NIGHT IS ONLY THROUGH THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, AND THE
05:14:16 GOVERNOR'S OFFICE GAVE CLEAR INDICATION THAT LOCAL
05:14:19 GOVERNMENTS SHOULD PREPARE TO NOT HAVE THAT EXTENDED INTO
05:14:23 NOVEMBER.
05:14:23 SO IT RAISES THE QUESTION OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE
05:14:27 FORWARD IN NOVEMBER.
05:14:27 SO I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING AS
05:14:31 WE MOVE INTO NOVEMBER IS TO BRING BACK SECOND READINGS
05:14:34 FOR THE MORNING MEETING.
05:14:35 SO WHATEVER EFFECT THAT HAS, PLANNING ON MEETING, JUST
05:14:41 HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THERE WILL BE SECOND READINGS AGAIN
05:14:44 SCHEDULED FOR THE MORNING.
05:14:46 I WANT TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION SO YOU ARE
05:14:48 AWARE OF THAT.
05:14:49 THANK YOU.
05:14:50 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
05:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:14:57 >>LUIS VIERA: EXCUSE ME FOR FIVE MINUTES.
05:15:02 I HAVE TO SWITCH COMPUTERS AND HOPEFULLY -- LONG STORY AS
05:15:07 IT ALWAYS IS. IT WILL BE FIVE MINUTES.
05:15:09 CONTINUE FORWARD, SIR.
05:15:11 JUST FYI.
05:15:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:15:13 ITEM NUMBER 2.
05:15:14 >> CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
05:15:30 GOOD EVENING.
05:15:31 THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:15:33 THIS IS TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 20-03.
05:15:38 BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WOULD MAKE A CORRECTION FOR THE
05:15:41 RECORD.
05:15:42 ON PAGE 10 OF THE STAFF ANALYSIS, IT SAYS BUILDING WILL
05:15:46 BE SUBJECT TO DESIGN STANDARD BY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
05:15:49 COMMITTEE.
05:15:50 THIS IS INCORRECT.
05:15:51 BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE ZONING.
05:15:55 THE CITY LEGAL CLARIFIED THIS ISSUE WITH US, AND THIS IS
05:16:01 THE FINDING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:16:03 SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD BEFORE I
05:16:05 GET STARTED.
05:16:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:16:10 GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:16:10 >>DANNY COLLINS: AGAIN, THIS IS TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
05:16:15 AMENDMENT 20-03.
05:16:17 SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:16:20 WITHIN THE HISTORIC YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:16:22 AND WITHIN THE YBOR CITY URBAN VILLAGE.
05:16:26 THIS WENT BEFORE THE BLC ON JULY 28th AND THEY
05:16:32 RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
05:16:35 HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE, SURROUNDING
05:16:38 PROPERTY.
05:16:38 YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN A BLACK COLOR.
05:16:41 IT'S AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH 17th STREET AND
05:16:44 EAST PALM AVENUE.
05:16:48 THE TRAFFIC TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS HCC YBOR
05:16:53 CITY CAMPUS.
05:16:55 HILTON GARDEN INN TAMPA IS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH -- OR
05:17:00 THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:17:02 AND IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE YBOR CITY APARTMENTS,
05:17:07 ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:17:09 AND THEN INTERSTATE 4 A COUPLE BLOCKS TO THE NORTH.
05:17:15 THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE FROM NORTH 17th
05:17:20 STREET.
05:17:21 THIS IS ANOTHER IMAGE LOOKING WEST STANDING AT THE
05:17:24 INTERSECTION OF NORTH 17th AND EAST PALM AVENUE, THE
05:17:27 SUBJECT SITE, WOULD BE ON OUR RIGHT.
05:17:32 THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST FROM THAT INTERSECTION OF
05:17:35 17th AND EAST PALM AVENUE.
05:17:39 THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE FROM
05:17:41 EAST PALM AVENUE.
05:17:44 THIS IS ON THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS EAST
05:17:48 PALM AVENUE.
05:17:49 AND THIS IS PART OF HCC CAMPUS.
05:17:53 A QUICK BACKGROUND.
05:17:54 THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED REQUEST.
05:17:57 SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT.
05:17:59 THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.35 ACRES, ON THE
05:18:03 REQUEST OF CHANGE OF LAND USE IN RESIDENTIAL 50 AND
05:18:08 RIGHT-OF-WAY CATEGORIES TO THE URBAN MIXED USE 60,
05:18:11 APPROXIMATELY 1.1 ACRES OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS UNDER THAT
05:18:16 RESIDENTIAL 50, AND APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES IS WITHIN
05:18:21 THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY CATEGORY.
05:18:25 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM THE SUBJECT
05:18:29 SITE OUTLINED IN THE BLACK COLOR.
05:18:32 YOU WILL SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE SITES WITHIN THE
05:18:34 RESIDENTIAL 50 CATEGORY. THIS LITTLE SLIVER TO THE SOUTH
05:18:38 IS WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
05:18:41 TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, YOU WILL SEE -- TO THE
05:18:47 NORTH AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE RESIDENTIAL 50.
05:18:51 THEN YOU WILL SEE SOME CMU-35, ONE BLOCK TO THE WEST OF
05:18:56 THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:18:57 AND THEN YOU WILL SEE CC-35 A COUPLE BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH
05:19:03 ON EAST 6th AVENUE.
05:19:07 THIS IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWING --
05:19:11 SHOWING THE SUBJECT SITE UNDER THE UMU CATEGORY.
05:19:17 THIS IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED
05:19:19 REQUEST.
05:19:21 CURRENTLY THE SUBJECT SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED THE 59
05:19:24 DWELLING UNITS, WITH JUST OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF
05:19:29 NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED UNDER THAT SUBJECT
05:19:33 CATEGORY CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR ANY ONE OF POTENTIAL
05:19:36 DWELLING UNITS, OR JUST OVER 190,000 SQUARE FEET OF
05:19:40 NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED
05:19:42 AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT
05:19:44 POTENTIAL BY ALLOWING GREATER RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON THE
05:19:52 SUBJECT SITE.
05:19:52 THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND IT
05:19:55 CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL OF THE POLICIES IN THE
05:19:57 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:20:00 SPECIFICALLY, UNDER THE CITY'S PLANNING STRATEGY,
05:20:04 DEVELOPMENT ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT IN URBAN VILLAGES,
05:20:09 AND CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICIES, AND ALSO
05:20:14 THE HOUSING POLICIES IN THE PLAN.
05:20:18 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:20:21 RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED -- IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:20:27 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:20:29 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY.
05:20:32 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:20:34 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ONLINE AS WELL.
05:20:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
05:20:38 GENTLEMAN?
05:20:42 ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, THE APPLICANT IS ON LINE.
05:20:48 I SEE YOU, MR. BENTLEY.
05:20:50 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
05:20:53 MY NAME IS MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET TAMPA
05:20:57 33602.
05:20:58 I HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN BUT IT'S A LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDING SO
05:21:01 YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.
05:21:03 IN ANY EVENT, I THINK DANNY DID A VERY THOROUGH JOB WITH
05:21:08 COVERING THE AMENDMENT.
05:21:09 PROPERTY IS OWNED BY CAPCO PARKING LLC, ONE OF THE
05:21:14 CORPORATIONS THAT'S OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CAPITANO
05:21:17 FAMILY.
05:21:18 THE APPROVAL THAT YOU SAW IN THE SUMMARY WOULD ALLOW AN
05:21:21 ADDITIONAL 22 UNITS OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:21:23 THE INTENT IS TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY FOR RESIDENTIAL
05:21:26 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
05:21:29 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ALSO SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION
05:21:32 OF THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, SO THEY HAVE AUTHORITY
05:21:36 TO WEIGH IN, IN TERMS OF THE EXTERIOR DESIGN.
05:21:39 AS DANNY NOTED IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT, THAT RELATES TO
05:21:42 THE YC ZONING DISTRICT THAT APPLIES TO THE SUBJECT
05:21:46 PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK IS 60 FEET.
05:21:53 THE PROPOSAL HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY -- FIRST THE PLANNING
05:22:01 COMMISSION STAFF, THEY ISSUED A POSITIVE REPORT,
05:22:04 RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
05:22:06 SUBSEQUENTLY TO OBVIOUSLY CITY COUNCIL.
05:22:09 THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT ITS JUNE 4 PUBLIC HEARING
05:22:14 UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL FINDING CONSISTENCY
05:22:17 AND ADOPTION.
05:22:19 NEXT BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
05:22:21 I THINK THAT WAS A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
05:22:24 THERE WAS UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL
05:22:26 ADOPTING CHANGE.
05:22:29 AND ALSO YOUR PLANNING STAFF WITH MARY SAMANIEGO ISSUED A
05:22:37 MEMORANDUM, I THINK, ON MARCH 11, 2020 IN YOUR BACKUP
05:22:41 FINDING, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT CONSISTING OF CITY OF
05:22:43 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:22:47 AND SO A GOOD SUMMATION OF THE REPORT IS FOUND ON PAGE 10
05:22:54 OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT.
05:22:55 I WILL JUST PARAPHRASE.
05:22:57 IT SAYS IT CONCLUDE THAT THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR
05:23:01 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH
05:23:03 SURROUNDING AREA, AND THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY INCREASE
05:23:07 FITS THE VISION EXPRESSED IN THE POLICIES OF THE
05:23:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:23:11 SO THAT ABOUT SUMS IT UP.
05:23:13 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I WILL GLADLY
05:23:15 ADDRESS THEM.
05:23:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
05:23:18 PETITIONER OR THE APPLICANT?
05:23:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
05:23:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:23:24 GOOD EVENING, MR. BENTLEY.
05:23:29 THE APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH OF YOUR PROPOSED PROJECT --
05:23:34 AND I THINK IT APPEARED TO ME THAT IT DIRECTLY ABUTS I
05:23:40 BELIEVE A SENIOR SUBSIDIZED RESIDENTIAL FACILITY -- I
05:23:47 CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT.
05:23:50 IS THAT CORRECT?
05:23:51 >>MARK BENTLEY: YES, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS,
05:23:54 COUNCILMAN.
05:23:55 I THINK IT'S CALLED LA HACIENDA.
05:23:59 I THINK MR. MIRANDA KNOWS.
05:24:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE USED TO DELIVER MEALS ON WHEELS.
05:24:05 WE HAD CLIENTS IN THAT BUILDING, RIGHT, JIM?
05:24:07 ANYWAY, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT HOW CLOSE
05:24:14 THIS -- OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AT
05:24:18 THIS STAGE, BUT YOU PROBABLY HAVE ONE COMING PRETTY SOON,
05:24:23 BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT ANY
05:24:27 ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SENIOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECT
05:24:34 ADJACENT.
05:24:34 >>MARK BENTLEY: I KNOW IT'S KIND OF TOUGH AT THIS STAGE
05:24:37 OF THE GAME, LAND USE, THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT THE
05:24:40 LAND USE IS APPROPRIATE AT THAT LOCATION, SUBJECT TO
05:24:42 PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, WHICH IN THIS CASE I MENTIONED
05:24:46 BEFORE NOT ONLY JUST THE GENERAL CITY CODES BUT BARRIO
05:24:49 LATINO COMMISSION.
05:24:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MENTIONED, MARK, SOMEBODY ON
05:24:54 STAFF CONFIRM THAT THERE'S A 60-FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AT THAT
05:24:59 LOCATION, REGARDLESS OF THE UMU STATUS?
05:25:02 >>MARK BENTLEY: I DON'T HAVE THE CODE IN FRONT OF ME.
05:25:06 MAYBE MARY IS LISTENING TO THIS AND SHE'S IN HER OFFICE
05:25:10 AND COULD PULL IT UP.
05:25:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING -- YES.
05:25:17 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
05:25:19 COULD YOU REPEAT IT?
05:25:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE BARRIO, THE HEIGHT LIMIT AT THIS
05:25:27 LOCATION THAT MARK IS APPLYING FOR THE UMU 60?
05:25:31 >>MARK BENTLEY: THE YC ZONING, WHAT'S THE HEIGHT LIMIT
05:25:36 THAT RELATES TO THE PROPERTY?
05:25:37 WOULD YOU KNOW?
05:25:38 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT.
05:25:40 I MEAN, THERE'S A VARIETY OF ZONING DISTRICTS THAT'S
05:25:42 ALLOWED IN UMU 60.
05:25:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WOULD BE THE HIGHEST ONE?
05:25:50 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: OKAY.
05:25:53 YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME A MOMENT.
05:25:55 I SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE ALLOWED
05:25:57 IN THAT CATEGORY FIRST.
05:25:59 JUST A MOMENT.
05:26:00 >>MARK BENTLEY: THE DISCUSSION, JOHN, WHILE MARY IS
05:26:03 LOOKING AT THE BARRIO LATINO, THE TYPICAL HEIGHT IS 60
05:26:07 FEET.
05:26:07 THE MAX IN YBOR CITY, AND WOULDN'T EXCEED 60.
05:26:13 BUT STATE ON THE RECORD IT WOULDN'T EXCEED 60.
05:26:17 WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GO WHAT THEY CALL TO YC 9
05:26:21 REZONING WHICH IS EQUIVALENT OF A PD FOR YBOR CITY.
05:26:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT SURE THAT YOUR STIPULATION
05:26:27 WORKS IN THE LAND USE.
05:26:32 >>MARK BENTLEY: NO, MY POINT IS, WE WILL BE SEEING YOU
05:26:34 AGAIN BECAUSE WE NEED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY SO YOUR
05:26:37 CONCERNS ABOUT BUFFERING AND SETBACKS WILL BE BEFORE CITY
05:26:40 COUNCIL AGAIN, SO YOU WILL HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT IT.
05:26:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE YOU SPEAKING --
05:26:51 >>MARK BENTLEY: UNFORTUNATELY I AM IN MY OFFICE TONIGHT.
05:26:55 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MR. MANISCALCO, THANK YOU.
05:27:03 GIVEN ALL THE POSSIBLE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT COULD BE
05:27:07 REZONED AFTER THE UMU 60 IS APPROVED, 60 FEET IS THE
05:27:12 MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
05:27:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
05:27:17 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:27:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:27:21 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
05:27:24 TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTION FOR THE
05:27:26 RECORD.
05:27:27 THANK YOU.
05:27:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN YOU HEAR US?
05:27:33 CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF OR DO YOU HAVE AUDIO ISSUES?
05:27:43 COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS SOME AUDIO ISSUES.
05:27:47 OKAY.
05:27:47 CAN YOU HEAR US?
05:27:50 OKAY.
05:27:51 AT LEAST HE CAN HEAR.
05:27:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO -- AND I GUESS HE
05:27:56 CAN STAY IN TOUCH WITH ERICA AND PERHAPS MIGHT BE ABLE TO
05:28:00 PHONE IN, MUTE HIS AUDIO AND USE AUDIO BY PHONE.
05:28:06 SHOULD WE HOLD THIS FOR YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
05:28:12 NO IS WHAT YOU ARE SIGNALING.
05:28:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:28:16 DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC
05:28:19 COMMENT?
05:28:21 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:28:23 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 2?
05:28:25 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
05:28:29 AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS
05:28:31 ITEM.
05:28:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
05:28:36 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:28:37 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:28:39 THANK YOU.
05:28:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS
05:28:41 ITEM?
05:28:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOME MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:28:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ANY
05:28:46 OBJECTION TO CLOSING THIS HEARING?
05:28:49 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS NOW
05:28:51 CLOSED.
05:28:52 COUNCILMAN CITRO, IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND TAKING NUMBER 2.
05:28:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:28:59 FILE PA 20-03.
05:29:05 (AUDIO ECHO)
05:29:08 AN ORDINANCE BEING AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:29:18 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND
05:29:23 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE
05:29:26 NORTHWEST CORNER OF EAST PALM AVENUE AND NORTH 17th
05:29:32 STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL 50, R 50, AND RIGHT-OF-WAY, ROW,
05:29:40 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60, UMU 60, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
05:29:47 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
05:29:51 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:29:51 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:29:57 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
05:29:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
05:30:00 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:30:02 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:30:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:30:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:30:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:30:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:30:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:30:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:30:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:30:18 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:30:21 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:30:24 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:30:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:30:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:30:29 ITEM NUMBER 3.
05:30:31 >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:30:37 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN?
05:30:40 THE PARKS COMING BEFORE YOU FOR THE PROPERTIES.
05:31:01 AGAIN, THIS IS -- TO RECOGNIZE THE PARKS.
05:31:10 THE FIRST ONE IS FREEDOM PARK.
05:31:12 SO IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE RIVER
05:31:16 SIDES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:31:26 IT'S RESIDENTIAL 10, AND THE PROPOSED IS RECREATIONAL
05:31:30 OPEN SPACE WITH POTENTIAL FOR -- PARK ON THIS SITE.
05:31:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:31:41 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
05:31:45 ANYONE ELSE?
05:31:49 ALL RIGHT.
05:31:51 DO WE HAVE -- WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT ON THIS.
05:31:54 DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
05:31:55 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 3?
05:31:58 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
05:32:03 AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENT ON THIS
05:32:05 ITEM.
05:32:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:32:07 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
05:32:10 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:32:11 THERE IS NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
05:32:14 THANK YOU.
05:32:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:32:15 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:32:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
05:32:24 GUDES.
05:32:25 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:32:26 ANY OBJECTION?
05:32:27 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE HEARING IS NOW
05:32:29 CLOSED.
05:32:31 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM
05:32:33 NUMBER 3?
05:32:34 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:32:41 FILE PA 20-05.
05:32:44 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
05:32:46 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040
05:32:50 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENTARY,
05:32:52 FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT
05:32:55 3710 NORTH POPLAR AVENUE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS FREEDOM
05:33:00 PARK, FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE
05:33:06 R/OS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
05:33:11 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:33:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
05:33:15 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:33:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:33:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:33:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:33:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:33:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:33:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:33:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:33:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:33:33 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:33:35 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:33:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:33:41 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 4.
05:33:42 >> ITEM NUMBER 40 IS PA 20-06, JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR
05:33:52 PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:33:53 THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, URBAN
05:33:56 HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE, HAS SOME WONDERFUL PARK AMENITIES,
05:34:06 CALVIN TAYLOR PARK, FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, AND THE PROPOSED
05:34:11 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, THE GREEN COLOR, AGAIN ANY
05:34:16 POTENTIAL -- NOT A PARK ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:34:20 AND IT WOULD PROMOTE THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE
05:34:22 OPPORTUNITIES.
05:34:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:34:27 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
05:34:30 AGAIN, NO APPLICANT HERE.
05:34:32 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:34:34 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 4?
05:34:35 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
05:34:39 AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
05:34:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:34:47 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:34:48 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:34:50 THANK YOU.
05:34:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:34:52 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
05:34:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:34:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:34:58 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
05:35:00 ANY OBJECTION?
05:35:01 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
05:35:03 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM
05:35:05 NUMBER 4?
05:35:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:35:11 ITEM NUMBER 4 IN REGARD TO FILE PA 20-06, ORDINANCE BEING
05:35:17 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
05:35:19 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:35:22 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND
05:35:27 USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 611 WEST
05:35:30 INDIANA AVENUE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CALVIN TAYLOR PARK
05:35:34 FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE ROS,
05:35:40 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
05:35:42 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:35:44 >> SECOND.
05:35:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:35:49 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:35:51 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:35:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:35:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:35:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:35:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:36:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:36:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:36:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:36:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:36:08 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:36:11 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:36:16 >>JENNIFER MALONE: ITEM NUMBER 5, THIS IS GIDDENS PARK
05:36:23 LOCATED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS VILLAGE, EAST OF NORTH
05:36:26 NEBRASKA AVENUE, SOUTH OF EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
05:36:31 THIS IS GIDDENS PARK.
05:36:34 THE ADOPTED LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
05:36:39 PROPOSED SEPARATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
05:36:41 AGAIN, THIS IS TO REMOVE ANY POTENTIAL FOR A USE THAT IS
05:36:41 NOT A PARK ON THIS PROPOSED SITE, AND IT IS CONSISTENT
05:36:45 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES, TO PROMOTE
05:36:48 RECREATION, OPEN SPACE OPPORTUNITIES, AND THE PLANNING
05:36:50 COMMISSION DID FIND IT CONSISTENT.
05:36:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:36:54 ANY QUESTIONS?
05:36:55 ALL RIGHT.
05:36:56 THERE'S NO APPLICANT.
05:36:57 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:36:59 THIS ITEM?
05:37:00 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
05:37:02 ITEM, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON
05:37:05 THIS ITEM.
05:37:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
05:37:09 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:37:10 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:37:12 THANK YOU.
05:37:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:37:13 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE
05:37:16 WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
05:37:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:37:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
05:37:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
05:37:23 ANY OBJECTION?
05:37:24 HEARING NONE, AND BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS
05:37:27 CLOSED.
05:37:27 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU KINDLY READ ITEM NUMBER
05:37:32 5.
05:37:33 >> PA 20-07, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:37:40 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND
05:37:43 USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 5202 AND
05:37:48 5209 NORTH 12th STREET AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS GIDDENS
05:37:52 PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 TO RECREATION OPEN SPACE
05:37:55 ROS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
05:38:00 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:38:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:38:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:38:08 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:38:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:38:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:38:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:38:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:38:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:38:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:38:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:38:23 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:38:25 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:38:28 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:38:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 6.
05:38:37 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:38:38 FILE PA 20-06, IN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE NORTH OF
05:38:44 EAST LAKE AVENUE, SOUTH OF -- ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST
05:38:48 LAKE AVENUE, SOUTH OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
05:38:52 BOULEVARD.
05:38:53 AND A LOVELY WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE LAKE IN THE BACK.
05:38:58 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10 AND
05:39:02 APPROACHES RECREATION OPEN SPACE TO REMOVE ANY
05:39:05 POTENTIAL -- ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:39:10 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
05:39:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:39:19 HEARING NONE, WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS.
05:39:21 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WISHES TO
05:39:24 SPEAK?
05:39:24 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
05:39:28 ITEM, NOR DO WE HAVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
05:39:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
05:39:34 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT THERE IS NO
05:39:36 ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:39:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:39:39 IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO
05:39:42 CLOSE THIS ITEM NUMBER 6?
05:39:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
05:39:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
05:39:47 MIRANDA.
05:39:48 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:39:50 ANY OBJECTION?
05:39:50 HEARING NONE, THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
05:39:52 COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THE SUBSTITUTE
05:39:56 ITEM NUMBER 6?
05:39:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR, I WILL DO IT.
05:40:04 I HEREBY READ A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
05:40:08 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
05:40:12 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
05:40:15 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY
05:40:18 LOCATED AT 1200 EAST LAKE AVENUE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
05:40:21 RAGAN PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, TO RECREATIONAL
05:40:25 OPEN SPACE, R/OS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES
05:40:28 IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
05:40:31 EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:40:36 SECOND FROM.
05:40:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:40:41 LET'S GET A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:40:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:40:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:40:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:40:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:40:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:40:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:40:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:40:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:40:57 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:41:00 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:41:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:41:04 ITEM NUMBER 7.
05:41:05 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:41:08 ITEM NUMBER 7 IS HERMAN MASSEY PARK, LOCATED IN CENTRAL
05:41:15 PLANNING DISTRICT, DOWNTOWN RIVER ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:41:20 IT IS EAST -- FRANKLIN STREET AND -- AVENUE, [~AUDIO
05:41:31 DISTORTION~] A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT SITE, ANOTHER ONE
05:41:31 FROM FRANKLIN STREET. AND THIS IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL
05:41:34 BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHICH IS ALSO ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE,
05:41:42 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
05:41:49 BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CRITERIA, REGARDLESS, THIS
05:41:52 WOULD REMOVE ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD NOT BE A PARK.
05:41:58 AND AGAIN PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
05:42:03 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:42:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:42:06 ANY QUESTIONS?
05:42:07 HEARING NONE, WE HAVE NO APPLICANT.
05:42:09 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
05:42:12 ON THIS ITEM?
05:42:12 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
05:42:16 AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS
05:42:18 ITEM.
05:42:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
05:42:25 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:42:26 THERE IS NO ONE HERE FOR THIS ITEM.
05:42:27 THANK YOU.
05:42:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:42:34 MOTION TO CLOSE?
05:42:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
05:42:37 >> SECOND.
05:42:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
05:42:39 MIRANDA WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:42:41 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
05:42:43 HEARING?
05:42:44 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
05:42:48 NOW CLOSED.
05:42:51 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM
05:42:53 NUMBER 7?
05:42:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE PA 20-09,
05:43:02 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
05:43:04 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040
05:43:08 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE
05:43:11 LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1010
05:43:15 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS HERMAN
05:43:19 MASSEY PARK FROM CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT CBD TO
05:43:23 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, ROS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
05:43:27 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
05:43:30 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:43:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, I
05:43:36 BELIEVE.
05:43:36 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:43:38 N.
05:43:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:43:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:43:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:43:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:43:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:43:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:43:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:43:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:43:57 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:44:00 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:44:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TECH NUMBER 8.
05:44:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:44:11 ITEM 8 IS PA 20-10, IN THE CENTRAL PARK URBAN VILLAGE.
05:44:17 IT IS -- SCOTT STREET.
05:44:28 THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE PARK.
05:44:32 ADOPTED COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, COMMUNITY LAND USE
05:44:36 DESIGNATION, RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
05:44:40 AGAIN THIS WOULD REMOVE ANY DWELLING UNITS OR SQUARE
05:44:44 FOOTAGE POTENTIAL ON THIS SUBJECT SITE AND THE ONLY USE
05:44:46 IS PARK.
05:44:55 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND IT KIND.
05:44:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:44:59 ALL RIGHT.
05:44:59 NO QUESTIONS.
05:45:01 WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT.
05:45:02 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:45:04 ITEM NUMBER 8?
05:45:06 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
05:45:10 AND WE HAVE RECEIVED NO WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
05:45:14 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:45:15 WE HAVE NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
05:45:17 THANK YOU.
05:45:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:45:20 IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS,
05:45:22 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
05:45:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:45:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
05:45:28 ANY OBJECTION?
05:45:29 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
05:45:32 NOW CLOSED.
05:45:33 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER
05:45:36 8?
05:45:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:45:39 FILE PA 20-10, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED BY FIRST READING
05:45:45 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040
05:45:50 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE
05:45:54 LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1314
05:45:58 SCOTT STREET AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS TAMPA PARK PLAZA FROM
05:46:04 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU-35, TO RECREATIONAL OPEN
05:46:12 SPACE, R/OS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
05:46:17 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
05:46:20 EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:46:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:46:25 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
05:46:26 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:46:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:46:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:46:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:46:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:46:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:46:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:46:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:46:43 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:46:45 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:46:47 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:46:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:46:53 ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 9.
05:46:58 I SEE MR. HEY.
05:47:06 >>DAVID HEY: GOOD EVENING.
05:47:08 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN?
05:47:26 THERE WE GO.
05:47:28 DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
05:47:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE DO, SIR.
05:47:32 GO AHEAD.
05:47:32 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:47:36 THIS NEXT AMENDMENT IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
05:47:39 IT'S TACPA 20-02.
05:47:46 A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE REQUEST.
05:47:50 ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY CITY OF TAMPA STAFF UNDER
05:47:53 AMENDMENT TACPA 19-06.
05:47:56 THE AMENDMENT APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY AT
05:48:01 9-1 VOTE.
05:48:03 EVENTUALLY IT WAS WITHDRAWN BY CITY STAFF WHEN REQUESTED
05:48:06 BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO DO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC OUTREACH.
05:48:10 CITY STAFF STATED AT THAT TIME THEY DID NOT HAVE THE
05:48:13 RESOURCES TO DO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC OUTREACH.
05:48:17 A PRIVATE APPLICANT HAS NOW BROUGHT THE SAME REQUEST
05:48:21 TACPA 19-06 BACK TO YOU THIS EVENING FOR YOUR REVIEW.
05:48:28 CERTAIN VERTICAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, OR ARTERIAL
05:48:32 ROADWAYS, CAN QUALIFY FOR HIGH-RISE F.A.R. OF A 1.5, WHEN
05:48:39 MEETING SPECIFIC CRITERIA. THE CRITERIA INCLUDES MINIMUM
05:48:42 ACREAGE, REQUIREMENTS, AND THE INCLUSION OF TWO SEPARATE
05:48:46 USES SUCH AS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL IN A VERTICAL
05:48:50 INTEGRATED STRUCTURE.
05:48:52 ANY DEVELOPMENT CAN THEN ENTER INTO A BONUS AGREEMENT
05:48:56 WITH THE CITY TO THEN BE CONSIDERED FOR A MAXIMUM OF A 2
05:49:00 F.A.R.
05:49:01 IN CONTRAST, ALL DEVELOPMENT ON THE CITY'S COLLECTOR
05:49:04 ROADWAY LOCATED WITHIN THE CMU-35, CC-35 FUTURE USE
05:49:12 CATEGORY, IS CAPPED AT A 1 F.A.R. BY RIGHT WITH THE
05:49:16 OPTION TO ENTER INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GET TO
05:49:19 A MAX OF 2.
05:49:21 SOME DEVELOPERS HAVE STATED THAT THIS REQUIREMENT REDUCES
05:49:24 THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF CONSTRUCTING MIXED USE
05:49:28 DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE IDENTIFIED PREFERRED
05:49:31 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG THE CITY'S MIXED USE CORRIDORS.
05:49:36 THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR
05:49:38 THE NEED TO ENTER INTO A BONUS AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY
05:49:42 FOR DEVELOPMENT MEETING SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS UP TO THAT
05:49:45 1.5 F.A.R.
05:49:48 THAT'S FURTHER INCENTIVIZING THE PREFERRED IDENTIFIED
05:49:52 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THAT VERTICAL MIXED USE ON THE
05:49:54 CITY'S MAIN CORRIDOR.
05:49:57 MAXIMUM F.A.R.'S WOULD REMAIN THE SAME AND ALL PROPOSED
05:50:01 DEVELOPMENTS WOULD STILL NEED TO MEET CITY COUNCIL
05:50:03 APPROVAL.
05:50:05 THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THAT.
05:50:11 THIS AMENDMENT WOULD EXTEND THE EXISTING INCENTIVE ON THE
05:50:14 CITY'S ARTERIAL ROADWAYS TO COLLECTOR ROADWAYS WITHIN THE
05:50:17 CITY OF TAMPA'S URBAN VILLAGE.
05:50:20 URBAN VILLAGES ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE ADOPTIVE
05:50:23 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS UNIQUE AREAS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
05:50:26 THAT HAVE HAD ADOPTED SECONDARY PLANNING PROCESS.
05:50:31 SUCH AS A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN,
05:50:36 OR RECOGNIZED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
05:50:39 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY LAND USE POLICY 5.1.2
05:50:44 DIRECTS THE CITY TO SEEK WAYS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO
05:50:48 DEVELOP IN A COMPACT MIXED USE FORM WITHIN THESE URBAN
05:50:51 VILLAGES.
05:50:53 THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL TOOL FOR
05:50:56 THE CITY TO DO THAT.
05:50:58 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY LAND USE POLICY
05:51:01 8.14.1 DIRECTS THE CITY TO, QUOTE, CONTINUE TO STREAMLINE
05:51:06 THE REGULATIONS TO REMOVE UNNECESSARY REQUIREMENTS OR
05:51:11 DELAYS IN IMPROVING AND PERMITTING RESIDENTIAL
05:51:13 DEVELOPMENT.
05:51:14 TYPICALLY MIXED USE CONTAINS A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
05:51:18 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THAT THE THAT THIS
05:51:21 AMENDMENT WOULD HELP REMOVE A POTENTIAL REGULATORY
05:51:24 BARRIER TO DEVELOPING PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED
05:51:27 AS THE PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG THE CITY'S
05:51:30 CORRIDORS.
05:51:36 HERE WE HAVE A MAP OF THE SITE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY
05:51:41 THIS TEXT CHANGE.
05:51:43 THE SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, AND THEN THE DARK BLUE LINES
05:51:48 ARE THE COLLECTOR ROADWAYS, THE KIND OF PURPLISH AREAS
05:51:53 ARE THE IDENTIFIED URBAN VILLAGES.
05:51:59 SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE -- THIS IS 34th STREET, HAS A
05:52:07 NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT WOULD NOW -- THERE WOULD BE
05:52:11 INCENTIVE TO DEVELOP THAT VERTICAL MIXED USE.
05:52:16 THIS ON THE RIGHT IS JUST A BLOW-UP OF THE CENTRAL TAMPA
05:52:21 AREA.
05:52:30 NEXT, A NUMBER OF STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT VERTICAL MIXED
05:52:33 USE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES FOR GREATER TAX RETURN THAN
05:52:38 SINGLE USE STRUCTURES.
05:52:39 THESE STUDIES, THERE WERE STUDIES DONE IN SARASOTA COUNTY
05:52:42 IN 2008.
05:52:43 THERE WAS A STUDY DONE AT BURCOMBE COUNTY, WHICH I HAVE
05:52:50 TO LOOK UP, ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA, AND THEN THE SMART
05:52:53 GROWTH AMERICA STUDY, SOME 2013, SOME 17 CITIES AROUND
05:53:00 THE COUNTRY AND LOOKED AT HOW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS
05:53:04 PROVIDES FOR THAT GREATER RETURN AND TAX REVENUE.
05:53:09 HERE WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT SOME EXAMPLES OF LOCALLY OF
05:53:14 MIXED USE PROJECTS AND THE TAX RETURN THAT IS RECEIVED BY
05:53:17 THE CITY OVER SINGLE USE STRUCTURE.
05:53:22 THE USES ON THE LEFT ARE SINGLE USE, AND THE AVERAGE TAX
05:53:28 RETURN TO THE CITY BY PER ACRE, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE
05:53:33 ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF HOW THE VERTICAL MIXED USE, WHETHER
05:53:37 IT'S OLDER OR NEWER, HAD INCENTIVE TO PROVIDE THAT
05:53:43 GREATER TAX BASE.
05:53:49 AS USUAL, OUR PARTNER AGENCIES, THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS
05:53:56 FROM ANY OF THE REVIEWING AGENCIES AND THE PLANNING
05:53:58 COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FOUND
05:54:01 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO AMEND THE CMU-35 AND COMMERCIAL
05:54:07 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED
05:54:09 POLICY GUIDES WITHIN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:54:13 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND TWO MAIN AREAS OF
05:54:16 CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:54:19 THE FIRST ARE POLICIES DEALING WITH PROMOTION OF MIXED
05:54:22 USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG THE CITY'S MAIN CORRIDORS.
05:54:26 THESE FEES GENERALLY DISCUSS THE PROMOTION OF THAT
05:54:29 VERTICAL MIXED USE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, AND
05:54:32 THE CITY'S LONG-RANGE GOAL OF SHIFTING THE MAJORITY OF
05:54:35 CITY'S CORRIDORS AWAY FROM THE AUTO-ORIENTED DOMINATED
05:54:40 PATTERN OF THE PAST, WITH A MORE BALANCED APPROACH,
05:54:43 PROVIDING CORRIDORS THAT ARE SAFE FOR WALKING AND
05:54:46 CYCLING, WITH BUILDINGS ORIENTED TOWARDS PUBLIC
05:54:49 RIGHTS-OF-WAY, WITH TYPICALLY PARKING IN THE REAR, BUT AT
05:54:52 A DENSITY AND FORM THAT ALSO SUPPORTS --
05:55:02 [NO ENCODER]
05:55:15 -- OF THE VILLAGE WHILE CREATING A VIBRANT COMMUNITY
05:55:23 SETTING.
05:55:25 VERTICAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS
05:55:27 GOAL.
05:55:30 BASED ON THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT
05:55:33 THE PUBLIC -- BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,
05:55:37 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:55:40 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:55:41 AND BEFORE I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, I DID WANT TO
05:55:44 HIGHLIGHT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A MODIFICATION
05:55:49 TO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE THAT REMOVES DAVIS ISLAND FROM
05:55:55 THE CONSIDERATION UNDER THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
05:56:00 THIS MODIFICATION NARROWED THE SCOPE OF THE AMENDMENT.
05:56:04 IT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S OVERALL
05:56:07 CONSISTENCY FINDING.
05:56:09 THANK YOU.
05:56:09 AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:56:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, THEN COUNCIL
05:56:16 MEMBER DINGFELDER.
05:56:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COULD YOU PUT UP THAT MAP?
05:56:25 >>DAVID HEY: SURE.
05:56:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE GOT CONCERNS.
05:56:28 I AM MORE -- ALL FOR DENSITY IN SOME AREAS OF TAMPA.
05:56:33 SOME AREAS ARE HIGHLY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
05:56:36 AND I JUST AM TRYING TO SEE HOW THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
05:56:39 WILL FALL IN ESPECIALLY 34th STREET THAT YOU
05:56:42 MENTIONED?
05:56:43 >>DAVID HEY: 34th STREET, YES.
05:56:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW THAT
05:56:48 WORKS BECAUSE THAT AREA THERE IS VERY HEAVY RESIDENTIAL.
05:56:53 RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE -- THOSE ARE MAIN ROADS THAT I
05:57:01 THINK I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.
05:57:07 SOME OF THOSE INNER WORKINGS ON THE STREET, HIGH DENSITY
05:57:13 AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN THAT AREA.
05:57:15 >>DAVID HEY: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I WILL HOPEFULLY RESPOND
05:57:22 TO YOUR ANSWER.
05:57:23 REMEMBER, THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE MAXIMUM F.A.R.
05:57:27 SO RIGHT NOW, ON THAT CORRIDOR, A DEVELOPER COULD COME IN
05:57:32 AND PROPOSE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT A 2.0 F.A.R.
05:57:39 WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE MAXIMUM.
05:57:41 ALL UNDER WHAT THIS APPLICANT AND THIS REQUEST IS LOOKING
05:57:46 FOR IS TO CHANGE THE MECHANISM OF WHEN THE TRIGGER IS
05:57:52 THAT THEY NEED TO START OBTAINING AND GOING INTO THAT
05:57:55 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
05:57:58 SO THERE IS NO MAXIMUM, THE CORRIDOR IS ALREADY PLANNED,
05:58:04 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE MAP, IT'S GOT ALREADY THAT
05:58:07 CMU-35.
05:58:08 SO IT WILL LONG-TERM TRANSITION OUT.
05:58:14 THAT'S THE CURRENT VISION OF THE PLAN, TO A MORE VERTICAL
05:58:17 MIXED USE.
05:58:18 I KNOW, WILL ANY PROJECT ALSO NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU
05:58:24 THROUGH A ZONING, IT DOES NOT SUPERSEDE ANY ZONING
05:58:30 REQUIREMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
05:58:32 THEY STILL NEED TO COME BACK FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR A
05:58:35 ZONING.
05:58:36 SO JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF THIS AMENDMENT IS APPROVED,
05:58:43 THERE ARE STILL CHECKS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT IF A
05:58:46 DEVELOPMENT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH PROPERTIES NEXT DOOR OR
05:58:50 WITHIN THAT PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS A TOOL
05:58:55 THAT YOU WOULD GET TO REVIEW IT UNDER.
05:58:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:59:02 >>DAVID HEY: I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
05:59:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT DOES.
05:59:06 THANK YOU, SIR.
05:59:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DINGFELDER AND THEN COUNCILMAN
05:59:09 VITRO.
05:59:09 >>LUIS VIERA: AND VIERA AFTER VITRO, IF I MAY.
05:59:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:59:13 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:59:14 THEN WE WILL GO IN THAT ORDER.
05:59:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
05:59:19 SO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU KNOW, MOST
05:59:29 OF THE IMPACT OR POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THIS IS IN EAST
05:59:33 TAMPA, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LARGEST SORT OF URBAN VILLAGE.
05:59:40 AND PRETTY EXPENSIVE, AND IT OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES SOME
05:59:44 MAJOR -- IT INCLUDES A LOT OF ROADS, 21ST, LAKE, OSBORNE,
05:59:51 HANNA, SLIGH.
05:59:54 THOSE ARE EAST-WEST.
05:59:56 AND ON THE NORTH-SOUTH, CENTRAL, 15th, AND 34th,
06:00:03 AT LEAST.
06:00:05 >>DAVID HEY: CAN I MAKE ONE POINT WHILE YOU ARE ON IT?
06:00:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHT.
06:00:14 SO -- AND I WANTED TO GO TO YOU ON THIS, MR. HEY, AS
06:00:19 WELL.
06:00:20 I DON'T WANT US TO BE TOTALLY DISTRACTED BY THE RED DOTS,
06:00:24 BECAUSE THE RED DOTS ONLY REPRESENT WHERE THE CURRENT
06:00:28 CC-35, OR CMU-35, PARCELS ARE.
06:00:36 OKAY?
06:00:37 THEORETICALLY, ARGUABLY, IF SOMEBODY WAS ABLE TO DO A
06:00:40 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT LET'S SAY AT THE CORNER OF HANNA AND
06:00:46 15th, AND THEY DID A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND WERE
06:00:51 ABLE TO GET CMU-35 AT THAT CORNER, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE
06:00:54 WOULD HAVE A NEW RED DO IT.
06:00:56 THAT NEW RED DO IT UNDER THIS PROPOSED CODE CHANGE, OR
06:01:03 COMP PLAN CHANGE, WOULD CREATE AN INCENTIVE.
06:01:08 IT DOESN'T EXTEND THE COMP PLAN, AS DAVID SAID, THE COMP
06:01:13 PLAN ALLOWS THE 2.0 F.A.R.
06:01:16 BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT CREATES A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE
06:01:21 FOR THE DEVELOPER TO GO INTO THESE -- ONTO THESE
06:01:25 LOCATIONS, THESE COLLECTOR ROADS, AND -- BIGGER TALLER
06:01:35 BUILDINGS.
06:01:36 THEY CAN PUT BIGGER TALLER BUILDINGS ALONG THERE ANY WAY
06:01:40 WHEREVER THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT THIS ACTUALLY
06:01:43 PROVIDES THEM FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO
06:01:47 THAT.
06:01:48 SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POLICY DECISION THAT COUNCIL NEEDS
06:01:53 TO EXPLORE.
06:01:55 IN REGARD TO SOUTH TAMPA, I UNDERSTAND MR. MECHANIK HAS
06:02:00 OFFERED TO ELIMINATE DAVIS ISLAND OUT OF THIS.
06:02:07 I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST HYDE PARK AND THOSE AREAS THAT ARE
06:02:09 IN BLUE INCLUDING HOWARD AVENUE AND ROME AND ALSO SOUTH
06:02:13 BOULEVARD, THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT THE LEAST BIT INTERESTED
06:02:20 IN HYDE PARK OF CREATING INCENTIVES TO GO VERTICAL IN
06:02:25 THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:02:30 AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY INCENTIVE NEEDED, HYDE
06:02:34 PARK, FOR DEVELOPERS.
06:02:36 THEY DON'T NEED A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO DO ANYTHING.
06:02:39 IF THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING IN HYDE PARK, THEN I AM SURE
06:02:41 THEY WOULD BE THRILLED TO DO IT AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY
06:02:44 DOING IT.
06:02:44 THEY DON'T NEED A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO BE ABLE TO DO
06:02:47 IT.
06:02:47 SO THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS.
06:02:51 I THINK IF WE EXCLUDE ANYTHING, IT DEFINITELY SHOULD BE
06:02:54 DAVIS ISLAND, AND HYDE PARK.
06:02:57 I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSAL IN THE UNIVERSITY NORTH
06:03:04 HYDE PARK AREA.
06:03:05 I'M COMFORTABLE -- I'M AMBIVALENT ABOUT IT IN WEST TAMPA
06:03:09 AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. MIRANDA OR MR.
06:03:11 MANISCALCO IN WEST TAMPA BECAUSE THIS DEFINITELY HAS
06:03:15 POTENTIAL IMPACT ON HABANA AND ROME, AND THEN IN REGARD
06:03:23 TO EAST TAMPA, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU KNOW, I'LL FOLLOW
06:03:27 YOUR LEAD.
06:03:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:03:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DAVID, I'M SORRY, I INTERRUPTED YOU
06:03:34 IF YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN ON SOMETHING I SAID, YOU ARE
06:03:37 MORE THAN WELCOME.
06:03:37 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:03:39 AND I'M SORRY I INTERRUPTED.
06:03:43 THERE'S A FEW THINGS.
06:03:44 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS AMENDMENT ONLY AFFECTS
06:03:48 THE BLUE STREETS.
06:03:52 THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS, MLK, HILLSBOROUGH, EVEN THOUGH
06:03:56 THEY ARE NOT SHOWN ON THIS MAP, THEY ALREADY HAVE THIS
06:03:59 EXISTING ZONING.
06:04:03 IT JUST ADDS JUST THE COLLECTOR ROADWAYS.
06:04:07 SO THE ARTERIAL CITY-WIDE, IF YOU HAVE THE CMU-35, YOU
06:04:11 HAVE THIS INCENTIVE FOR THE VERTICAL MIXED USE ALREADY.
06:04:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE MAP.
06:04:20 THE MAP IS VERY HELPFUL.
06:04:22 >>DAVID HEY: OH, GOOD.
06:04:23 I'M GLAD YOU LIKE IT.
06:04:24 WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD.
06:04:28 REGARDING THE INCENTIVES TO AMEND THE CMU-35, YOU KNOW,
06:04:37 THAT REALLY -- THERE'S A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO ALWAYS
06:04:41 AMEND THE PLAN, I WOULD THINK ALL APPLICANTS, THERE'S A
06:04:47 FINANCIAL DECISION BEING MADE TO GO AND SEEK A HIGHER,
06:04:50 WHETHER IT'S CMU OR UMU OR R-10 TO R-20.
06:04:55 THERE'S ALWAYS THAT INCENTIVE FOR THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY,
06:04:58 WHICH THIS DOESN'T ACTUALLY GIVE ANY ADDITIONAL DENSITY.
06:05:06 REGARDING HYDE PARK, A LOT OF THAT AREA IS ALREADY HYDE
06:05:11 PARK VILLAGE, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN VERTICAL MIXED
06:05:16 USE, AND THEN THE AREA ALONG HOWARD, IT'S WHERE THE HOTEL
06:05:21 AND BERN'S HAS THEIR -- ALONG THAT ROADWAY ITSELF.
06:05:27 BUT, YEAH, I HOPE THAT ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.
06:05:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:05:35 IF NOT, I WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN CITRO, THEN VIERA.
06:05:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
06:05:42 MR. HEY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROPERTIES THAT CAME BEFORE
06:05:47 THIS COUNCIL, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR COUNCILMAN
06:05:50 DINGFELDER, BUT I KNOW THAT HE AND I WERE BOTH CONCERNED
06:05:53 ABOUT COMMUNITY MIXED USE WITH A RATIO OF RESIDENTIAL TO
06:05:59 RETAIL WAS ONLY ONE PERCENT.
06:06:02 IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THIS, OR WE ARE THINKING ABOUT
06:06:05 CHANGING THIS TO A COMMERCIAL 35, IS THERE GOING TO BE A
06:06:08 RATIO OF EACH DEVELOPMENT OR EACH PROPERTY THAT THE RATIO
06:06:14 WILL BE HIGHER FOR RETAIL IN A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ALSO?
06:06:20 IS THAT GOING TO BE MANDATORY?
06:06:25 THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO ASK.
06:06:27 >>DAVID HEY: YES, I BELIEVE SO.
06:06:29 COUNCILMAN, THERE IS NO, UNDER ANY OF THE MIXED USE
06:06:32 CATEGORIES, WHETHER CMU, WHETHER THE SMU CATEGORY UP IN
06:06:36 NEW TAMPA, OR ANY OF THE OTHER URBAN MIXED USE
06:06:40 CATEGORIES, THERE IS NO, IN THE COMP PLAN CURRENTLY,
06:06:43 THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE INCLUSION OF A CERTAIN
06:06:51 PERCENTAGE OF MIXED USE.
06:06:54 YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE --
06:06:59 AND I THINK THE CITY WILL BE EXPLORING THAT IN THE
06:07:01 FUTURE, BUT RETAIL IS CHANGING RANDILY, ESPECIALLY WITH
06:07:08 COVID.
06:07:08 WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED REALLY AFTER
06:07:12 IT.
06:07:14 ALSO, RIGHT NOW, AS THE COMP PLAN EXPLAINED, LEFT UP TO
06:07:21 THE DECISION OF EACH ZONING, AND WHETHER COUNCIL THINKS
06:07:28 IT'S APPROPRIATE AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION TO HAVE A
06:07:32 CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OR WHETHER THE AMOUNT IN THE BUILDING
06:07:36 IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
06:07:39 THINGS LIKE THAT.
06:07:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
06:07:44 HOWEVER, YOU MADE THE POINT EARLIER THAT WE WANT IT TO BE
06:07:47 A WALKABLE COMMUNITY IN SEVERAL OF THESE AREAS.
06:07:50 IF WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT HAS LITTLE USE
06:07:53 FOR -- EXCUSE ME, A LOW PERCENTAGE FOR ANY TYPE OF
06:07:57 RETAIL, WALKING FROM ONE BUILDING TO ANOTHER EXCEPT JUST
06:08:05 FOR A -- IT IS FOOD FOR THOUGHT IF WE ARE GOING TO GO
06:08:10 THIS DIRECTION.
06:08:11 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:08:13 >>DAVID HEY: I DO BELIEVE THE CITY IS LOOKING INTO THAT,
06:08:19 AND WE WILL HOPEFULLY BE GETTING BACK WITH YOU HOPEFULLY
06:08:26 SOON.
06:08:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. HEY.
06:08:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:08:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
06:08:33 CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME?
06:08:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
06:08:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS WEIRD.
06:08:38 OKAY.
06:08:38 I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
06:08:40 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY -- I WANT TO
06:08:45 HEAR -- IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE
06:08:48 APPLICANT YET AND WE ARE ALL SHARING OUR FEELINGS.
06:08:50 BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS ALSO CALCULATED TO
06:08:53 THE IDEA OF DEVELOPMENT IN UNDERDEVELOPED AREAS, OR AREAS
06:08:56 THAT NEED POSITIVE COMMERCIAL AND OTHER KIND OF
06:09:00 DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE WEST TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA
06:09:02 AREA.
06:09:03 AGAIN, I WANT TO HEAR THE APPLICANT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S MY
06:09:05 INITIAL IMPRESSION, PARTICULARLY FOR THESE TWO AREAS.
06:09:08 BUT AGAIN I WANT TO HEAR THE APPLICANT OUT.
06:09:10 IT'S PROBABLY PREMATURE FOR ME TO SPEAK AND SAY THINGS.
06:09:15 THANK YOU, SIR.
06:09:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
06:09:17 ANYBODY ELSE?
06:09:18 IF NOT WE GO TO THE APPLICANT.
06:09:21 ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE APPLICANT.
06:09:24 >> CAN YOU SEE ME?
06:09:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN ONLY HEAR YOU.
06:09:40 WE CAN'T SEE YOU YET.
06:09:48 >>DAVID MECHANIK: OH, HERE WE ARE.
06:09:49 THANK YOU.
06:09:50 MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
06:09:54 305 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
06:09:56 I HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT.
06:09:58 I HAVEN'T BEEN AT THIS ADDRESS IN THREE MONTHS.
06:10:03 BUT I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ANDREW COHEN AND HIS PRIMARY
06:10:08 INTEREST IN PROPOSING THIS AMENDMENT IS CALLED EITHER
06:10:16 WEST TAMPA OR NORTH HYDE PARK WHICH I THINK HAS
06:10:19 EXPERIENCED FROM SOME VERY QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS
06:10:24 OCCURRED THERE.
06:10:27 I THINK MR. HEY DID A VERY THOROUGH JOB OF EXPLAINING THE
06:10:30 BACKGROUND ON THIS REQUEST, AND THE RATIONALE.
06:10:36 I WOULD JUST UNDERSCORE TWO POINTS, AND THAT IS THAT THE
06:10:41 AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY TO PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE IN
06:10:47 LOCATIONS WHERE THE CITY HAS ALREADY SAID THAT IT DESIRED
06:10:53 MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND THOSE ARE THE URBAN VILLAGES.
06:10:58 YOU CANNOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROVISION UNLESS YOU
06:11:02 ARE IN AN URBAN VILLAGE.
06:11:04 SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UNDERSCORE THAT POINT, BECAUSE
06:11:07 THAT'S ALREADY A DECISION THAT COUNCIL MADE IN TERMS OF
06:11:14 DESIGNATING THE URBAN VILLAGES.
06:11:17 I WOULD LIKE TO JUST RESPOND TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL'S
06:11:22 COMMENTS.
06:11:23 MR. GUDES, THIS ONLY AFFECTS PROPERTIES THAT ARE
06:11:29 DESIGNATED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL OR COMMUNITY MIXED USE.
06:11:35 SO THIS WOULD NOT CONFER SOMETHING THAT IS RESIDENTIAL
06:11:41 ON -- AUTOMATICALLY TO A COMMERCIAL MIXED USE
06:11:44 DEVELOPMENT.
06:11:45 THAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR THROUGH A PLAN AMENDMENT, AND
06:11:51 THAT REALLY LEADS ME TO THE RESPONSE TO MR. DINGFELDER'S
06:11:55 COMMENT, WHICH IS NO PROPERTY CAN BE ADDED TO THAT LIST
06:12:02 OF RED DOTS ON THE MAP UNLESS THIS CITY COUNCIL APPROVES
06:12:07 A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT AT THESE PROPERTIES THEY HAVE A
06:12:11 RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND ASK FOR
06:12:15 EITHER COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL OR COMMUNITY MIXED USE.
06:12:19 AND IF THAT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE AMENDMENT, THEN THIS
06:12:27 COUNCIL WOULD TURN IT DOWN.
06:12:28 IT HAS NO OBLIGATION TO APPROVE A PLAN AMENDMENT, IF IT'S
06:12:31 INAPPROPRIATE IN THE LOCATION THAT IT'S BEING SOUGHT.
06:12:35 AND FINALLY, WHAT MR. CITRO WAS DRIVING AT IS ALSO
06:12:46 ADDRESSED BECAUSE A REZONING HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF CITY
06:12:49 COUNCIL.
06:12:51 AND I HAVE SEEN MANY APPLICATIONS THAT WERE DENIED ON THE
06:12:56 BASIS THAT IT WAS NOT AN ADEQUATE MIX OF USES.
06:13:01 SO IF SOMEBODY PUT IN 500 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL IN
06:13:08 CONJUNCTION WITH A 250-UNIT APARTMENT PROJECT, I THINK
06:13:14 YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT AS A SHAM, AND THAT WOULD NOT
06:13:17 BE A TRUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
06:13:20 SO YOU HAVE THE MECHANISM ALREADY IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH
06:13:25 WHETHER OR NOT A PARTICULAR PROJECT IN A PARTICULAR
06:13:28 LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE.
06:13:32 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD, RIGHT BEFORE THIS HEARING
06:13:38 WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED, I LEARNED THAT DAVIS ISLAND
06:13:42 CIVIC ASSOCIATION HAD CONCERNS, AND I IMMEDIATELY TOOK
06:13:49 STEPS.
06:13:49 I SPOKE TO THEM AND UNDERSTOOD THEIR CONCERNS.
06:13:52 SO I DID FILE, AS I THINK DAVID MENTIONED, I DID FILE
06:13:57 MODIFIED LANGUAGE WITH THE CLERK, SO YOU HAVE THAT NOW AS
06:14:01 PART OF THE RECORD THIS EVENING, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE
06:14:05 DAVIS ISLAND FROM THE EFFECT OF THIS AMENDMENT.
06:14:12 SO ASSUMING THAT IT GOES FORWARD AT THE PLEASURE OF
06:14:16 COUNCIL, WE ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO DELETE DAVIS ISLAND AS
06:14:23 I INDICATED.
06:14:24 I SUBMITTED LANGUAGE REFLECTING THAT FACT.
06:14:30 I WOULD GO FARTHER AS I INDICATED, MY CLIENT IS PRIMARILY
06:14:36 INTERESTED IN WEST TAMPA OR NORTH HYDE PARK, AS SO OF IT
06:14:43 IS CALLED.
06:14:44 IF THERE ARE -- IF THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH SOUTH TAMPA OR
06:14:49 EAST TAMPA, THE LANGUAGE COULD BE MODIFIED TO ELIMINATE
06:14:53 THOSE URBAN VILLAGES.
06:14:56 I AM NOT COMPLICATING THAT BECAUSE FRANKLY I THINK THERE
06:14:59 IS AN IMAGE TO RESPECTFULLY IN EAST TAMPA TO ALLOW FOR
06:15:07 INCENTIVE TO ESTABLISH MIXED -- BUT PERSONALLY, I WOULD
06:15:14 NOT OBJECT, MY CLIENT WOULD NOT OBJECT, IF YOU DID
06:15:18 ELIMINATE EITHER THE SOUTH TAMPA OR THE EAST TAMPA URBAN
06:15:22 VILLAGES.
06:15:22 AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU
06:15:25 MAY HAVE.
06:15:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
06:15:27 GENTLEMAN?
06:15:30 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
06:15:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:15:33 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. MECHANIK, FOR PREEMPTING
06:15:36 MY QUESTION, WAS SIMILAR TO MR. DINGFELDER.
06:15:38 THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING GOING NONSOUTH TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
06:15:42 AND I WISH THAT WE COULD GET THROUGH THE PLANNING, WHAT
06:15:46 THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANT BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING
06:15:48 LIKE THIS, IN PARTICULAR IN AND AROUND SITE HOWARD.
06:15:51 I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A LOT OF PLANNING AND DIFFICULT
06:15:55 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS ABOUT SOME
06:15:59 THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE.
06:16:00 AND SO IF IT DIDN'T INCLUDE SOUTH TAMPA, THAT WOULD TAKE
06:16:07 AWAY MY BIGGEST OPPOSITION TO IT.
06:16:09 THANK YOU.
06:16:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
06:16:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
06:16:16 THANK YOU, MR. MECHANIK, AND REFLECTING UPON MY
06:16:20 QUESTIONS.
06:16:21 THERE ARE SOME STEPS THE PETITIONER HAS TO TAN THAT
06:16:26 SOMETIMES CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT LIKE.
06:16:27 I WAS HOPING WE COULD GET AND ELIMINATE ONE OF THOSE
06:16:31 STEPS IN MY COMMENTS.
06:16:32 BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.
06:16:34 FINAL DECISIONS DO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, WAIVERS OR
06:16:41 QUESTIONS TO DEVELOPMENT.
06:16:41 THANK YOU, MR. MECHANIK.
06:16:43 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:16:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HEY.
06:16:50 >>DAVID HEY: TO CLARIFY THE RECORD I WANT TO MAKE SURE
06:16:52 YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE URBAN VILLAGES ARE ONLY
06:16:55 WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:16:57 I KNOW TYPICALLY WE ALL THINK ABOUT TAMPA IS SOUTH OF
06:17:02 KENNEDY.
06:17:02 BUT IN RELATION TO THE COMP PLAN, IT'S A LITTLE -- TAMPA
06:17:08 A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH RIGHT HERE AND HYDE PARK IS
06:17:11 ACTUALLY IN THE CENTER, CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:17:15 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD.
06:17:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:17:19 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
06:17:21 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
06:17:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
06:17:24 I CAN'T SPEAK TO YOU FOR WEST TAMPA.
06:17:28 I CAN SPEAK TO WHAT I KNOW ABOUT WEST TAMPA.
06:17:30 BUT WEST TAMPA IS LIKE ANYPLACE ELSE.
06:17:34 JUST TEN YEARS AGO YOU COULD BUY A BUILDABLE LOT FOR 20,
06:17:38 $25,000.
06:17:42 THE ONLY THING IN WEST TAMPA IN THE VICINITY OF LINCOLN
06:17:47 AND CONRAD, $70,000.
06:17:50 AND GUESS WHAT, YOU GO BY THERE NOW YOU SEE THERE'S
06:17:53 CONSTRUCTION.
06:17:54 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY GOT FOR IT OR WHAT THEY SOLD FOR,
06:17:57 BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN PRETTY HIGH.
06:17:59 AND IT'S CHANGING, AND AT THE SAME TIME IT'S CHANGING, IT
06:18:03 IS GETTING DETERIORATED WITH ANOTHER MECHANISM WHERE I
06:18:07 WOULD SAY THAT IN EVERY PART OF WEST TAMPA NORTH OF
06:18:13 COLUMBUS DRIVE, SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, IN EVERY
06:18:17 BLOCK YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH, THERE'S TWO OR THREE HOMES
06:18:20 THAT ILLEGALLY HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO TWO AND THREE AND
06:18:24 FOUR APARTMENTS.
06:18:26 AND FOR YEARS, THEY NEGLECTED.
06:18:30 I THINK A COMPREHENSIVE OF WEST TAMPA INCLUDING THE
06:18:37 TREASURY DEPARTMENT, THEY AIN'T PAYING NO TAX TO NOBODY,
06:18:40 AIN'T PAYING AD VALOREM TAX.
06:18:46 WHAT I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT THESE THINGS HAVE
06:18:48 GOT TO BE CHANGED.
06:18:49 IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WEST TAMPA AND OTHER
06:18:52 PARTS OF THE CITY, THIS MAY BE -- COMPARED TO WHAT THEY
06:18:58 ARE DOING NOW.
06:18:59 SO LOOKING AT THE FIVE YEAR REVIEW OF HOMES BUILT IN THE
06:19:02 CITY OF TAMPA, ALL AREAS OF THE CITY FOR THE LAST FIVE
06:19:07 YEARS, AVERAGE ABOUT 950 TO 980 HOMES A YEAR BEING BUILT.
06:19:13 AND WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF LOTS.
06:19:16 SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO VERTICAL.
06:19:18 OR YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR DOWN.
06:19:20 ONE OF THE TWO.
06:19:21 AND WEST TAMPA, THERE WAS A LOT OF LOTS TEN YEARS AGO.
06:19:25 ANYTIME YOU SEE A HOUSE NOW THAT'S TOO UPPETY, GUESS WHAT
06:19:31 HAPPENS.
06:19:32 IT IS BOUGHT OUT AND A NEW HOME COMES ON.
06:19:34 SO THEY ARE TO PAY 150, 130,000 FOR THE LOT, THE PRICE OF
06:19:39 A HOUSE GOES SKY HIGH.
06:19:41 VERTICALLY YOU HAVE A BETTER DEAL BECAUSE YOU ARE
06:19:44 BUILDING A LOT MORE ON A LOT LESS.
06:19:46 SO THAT'S WHAT I AM TELLING YOU WHAT I SEE IN WEST TAMPA.
06:19:50 OF THE USED TO BE CAR LOTS.
06:19:52 NOT ALL OF IT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, RELOCATED TO WEST TAMPA.
06:19:57 THROUGH THE YEARS.
06:19:58 NOT ALL AT ONE TIME.
06:19:59 AND YOU SEE MORE AND MORE ABOUT THIS.
06:20:01 YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN.
06:20:03 DON'T TAKE MY WORD, JUST TAKE A DRIVE.
06:20:05 THAT'S HOW I GET ALL THESE PEOPLE I DEAL WITH IN WEST
06:20:08 TAMPA.
06:20:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:20:11 ANYBODY ELSE?
06:20:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:20:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CITY COUNCILMAN GUDES, I GUESS THE
06:20:27 QUESTION FALLS BACK TO YOU IN REGARD TO THIS MATTER CAME
06:20:30 IN FRONT OF US ABOUT A YEAR AGO WHEN STAFF BROUGHT IT IN
06:20:34 FRONT OF US, AND SEVERAL OF US EXPRESSED CONCERN, AND WE
06:20:40 WANTED MORE INFORMATION, AND THEN IT KIND OF DIED IN
06:20:43 REGARD TO A STAFF ITEM, AND THEN A PRIVATE DEVELOPER
06:20:48 BROUGHT IT BACK TO US, AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW
06:20:51 THROUGH MR. MECHANIK.
06:20:55 BUT THE QUESTION REALLY HASN'T CHANGED.
06:20:57 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, I LOOK TO YOU FOR GUIDANCE IN
06:21:00 REGARDS TO DO YOU WANT TO CREATED INCENTIVES FOR VERTICAL
06:21:04 DEVELOPMENT IN EAST TAMPA ON THESE COLLECTOR ROADS? I
06:21:09 THINK THAT'S REALLY THE KEY ISSUE.
06:21:11 OBVIOUSLY, THE OTHER SIX OF US HAVE A VOTE, BUT, YOU
06:21:16 KNOW, LIKE MR. VIERA SAID EARLIER, I THINK -- EARLIER
06:21:21 THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO DEFER TO THE DISTRICT
06:21:25 COUNCILMAN.
06:21:28 THAT'S IN REGARD TO EAST TAMPA.
06:21:29 IN REGARD TO SOUTH TAMPA, MR. MECHANIK, I WOULD LIKE TO,
06:21:34 IF WE ARE GOING THAT ROUTE, I SEE WHAT YOUR MARKUP WAS TO
06:21:39 EXCLUDE DAVIS ISLAND.
06:21:40 I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO EXCLUDE ANY TYPE OF INCENTIVE FOR
06:21:45 VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT FOR HYDE PARK AS WELL.
06:21:51 I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH HYDE PARK ON
06:21:53 THIS, BUT I THINK IF THEY WERE AWARE OF IT THEY WOULDN'T
06:21:56 BE TOO THRILLED ABOUT IT BECAUSE EVEN THERE'S AN
06:22:02 OPPORTUNITY ON BOULEVARD RIGHT THEREBY BY GORY
06:22:07 ELEMENTARY.
06:22:07 I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE SIGNIFICANT VERTICAL
06:22:12 STUFF GOING UP THERE, OR SWANN, LIKEWISE ON SWANN AVENUE
06:22:16 IN HYDE PARK.
06:22:17 SO AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, HE WOULDN'T BE SUPPORTIVE
06:22:23 OF ANY OF THAT ON DAVIS ISLAND OR HYDE PARK.
06:22:27 AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY.
06:22:29 COUNCILMAN GUDES, THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT IN REGARD TO
06:22:33 EAST TAMPA, FROM WHAT I SEE.
06:22:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SITTING ON THE SAFETY BOARD YEARS AGO
06:22:40 IN EAST TAMPA, WE ALWAYS SAID THESE MAIN ROADS, NEBRASKA,
06:22:46 FLORIDA AVENUE, YOU KNOW, 40th STREET, NEW
06:22:53 DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND YOU GO UP FOR DEVELOPMENT.
06:22:58 OUR MAIN CONCERN WAS THESE SMALL ROADS.
06:23:00 THAT AREA HAS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL.
06:23:04 IT CAUGHT MY EYES IN EAST TAMPA.
06:23:13 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE, PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
06:23:16 WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA?
06:23:18 AND WHERE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE MASS PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA?
06:23:31 SO THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING TO SEE FROM THIS.
06:23:35 AND THE CITY ASPECT.
06:23:41 WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR SOME OF THESE AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN
06:23:44 THE EAST?
06:23:47 I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TO HELP BOOST THE
06:23:53 ECONOMY, DEVELOPMENT IN THE EAST.
06:23:56 JUST WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THE TOTAL PLAN WOULD BE FOR THIS.
06:24:00 THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN BECAUSE I LOOK AT SOME OF THE
06:24:02 STREETS YOU JUST NAMED, 50th AND HANNA.
06:24:10 WELL, GOING TO COME IN AND JUST BULLDOZE?
06:24:14 I DON'T KNOW.
06:24:14 AND IT'S NOT A POOR COMMUNITY AT 15th AND HANNA.
06:24:22 I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE AREAS ON THE MAP.
06:24:24 SOME OF THESE AREAS, AND EAST TAMPA IS NOT TORE POOR,
06:24:33 IT'S JUST BEEN NEGLECTED.
06:24:37 WE ARE GOING TO PUT RESOURCES IN THERE TO MAKE SURE IT
06:24:40 THRIVES IN OTHER PLACES.
06:24:42 SO I GUESS THAT'S MY CONCERN.
06:24:45 WHAT IS THE PLAN, THE OVERALL PLAN?
06:24:51 I AM NOT TOO SUPPORTIVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
06:24:53 INFORMATION TELLING ME WHAT IS THE GOAL?
06:24:57 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR?
06:25:01 IF I AM HEARING PEOPLE RIGHT, WHY DON'T WE MOVE TO
06:25:04 EXCLUDE -- I MEAN, IF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, WE PAY
06:25:13 SPECIAL DEFERENCE TO DISTRICT MEMBERS, AND WE CERTAINLY
06:25:16 SHOULD DO THAT, IF WE MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH EXCLUSIONS
06:25:21 OF SOUTH AND EAST TAMPA, AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN
06:25:25 DINGFELDER, I KNOW, WAS TALKING ABOUT DAVIS ISLAND, JUST
06:25:29 TO MOVE THIS THING ALONG, BECAUSE I AM HEARING HESITATION
06:25:33 ON THE PART OF COUNCILMAN GUDES AND I WOULDN'T WANT HIM
06:25:35 TO GO FORWARD WESTBOUND THAT.
06:25:37 JUST A SUGGESTION.
06:25:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE IT, MR. VIERA. I BELIEVE
06:25:46 SOME OF THIS COULD WORK.
06:25:47 I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WILL IT WORK.
06:25:49 BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TELLING ME WHAT IS THE
06:25:52 OVERALL PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA?
06:25:54 SO IF WE MAKE A BOLD DECISION TO EXCLUDE OR TO ACCEPT, I
06:25:59 AM AT A BETWEEN A ROCK AND -- FOR OVERALL CAC AND SOME OF
06:26:08 THE AREA, WHERE IS THE PLAN?
06:26:11 THAT'S WHERE I AM AT RIGHT NOW.
06:26:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, IN LIGHT OF THAT,
06:26:19 INSTEAD OF EXCLUDING AREAS, WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO IS
06:26:24 JUST INCLUDE -- WE LOOK AT THE MAP, ONLY INCLUDE THE
06:26:32 AREAS, IT WOULD BE NORTH OF KENNEDY, WEST OF BOULEVARD,
06:26:39 AND -- NORTH OF KENNEDY, BEST OF BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF
06:26:43 TAMPA BAY, AND --
06:26:50 >> EAST OF HOWARD?
06:26:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, BECAUSE IT KEEPS GOING OVER
06:26:53 THERE.
06:26:53 IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT IS THAT, HIMES?
06:26:57 YOU COULD SAY DALE MABRY.
06:27:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I SPEAK?
06:27:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
06:27:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T WANT TO DROP EVERYTHING IN
06:27:11 WEST TAMPA.
06:27:12 AND IF YOU TAKE ALL -- EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SPOKE
06:27:17 ABOUT ALL YOU HAVE LEFT IS WEST TAMPA AND YOU CAN'T JUST
06:27:21 CALL IT SOUTH OF THIS, NORTH OF THIS, WEST OF THIS, OR
06:27:24 NORTH OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS WEST TAMPA WHAT YOU ARE
06:27:26 TALKING ABOUT. EITHER WAY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE WAY
06:27:29 OR THE OTHER.
06:27:29 IT'S STILL WEST TAMPA.
06:27:31 AND RESPONSIBILITY IS THE WHOLE CITY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
06:27:36 JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN A DISTRICT, YOUR VOTE MEANS JUST
06:27:40 AS MUCH TO THE CITY AS IT DOES TO THE DISTRICT.
06:27:42 YOU HAVE 14-POINT -- SOMETHING PERCENT.
06:27:46 SO I AM JUST LOOKING AT THIS.
06:27:48 AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT I
06:27:51 HAVE HEARD, ELIMINATE THIS, ELIMINATE THAT, AND WHAT'S
06:27:55 LEFT IS ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, WEST TAMPA.
06:27:58 AND I WOULD OBJECT TO THAT.
06:28:01 IT'S GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED IN THE CITY IN A FAIR AND
06:28:04 EQUITABLE MANNER.
06:28:06 THEREFORE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE -- WHEN THIS CITY IS
06:28:11 GROWING SO FAST AND SO FURIOUS THAT IT'S VERY HARD TO
06:28:15 CONTROL AT TIMES, WHEN YOU HAVE A THOUSAND PEOPLE MOVING
06:28:18 INTO FLORIDA EVERY DAY, MAYBE EVEN MORE NOW, AND YOU HAVE
06:28:22 ALL THE STRAINS AND ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE,
06:28:25 AND THEN YOU LOOK AFT WEST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA USED TO
06:28:30 BE -- YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED?
06:28:31 PEOPLE REALIZE IT'S FIVE MINUTES FROM THE AIRPORT, FROM
06:28:35 THE EXPRESSWAY, FROM DOWNTOWN, FROM ANY HOSPITAL, ANY
06:28:39 VENUE YOU WANT TO GO TO, FROM ARTS TO WHATEVER, AND NOW
06:28:43 THAT'S WHY THE PROPERTY HAS ESCALATED SO HIGH IN COSTS.
06:28:47 SO I AM NOT AGAINST THIS OR ANY OTHER ONE LIKE THIS.
06:28:51 BUT IT SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
06:28:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
06:29:00 ARE WE AT A CERTAIN TIME FRAME HERE?
06:29:03 IF WE ARE NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION MAYBE
06:29:08 WITH SOME OF THE CACs, CRAs INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS
06:29:11 TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND MAKE SURE WHAT
06:29:15 THEIR NEEDS ARE, WHAT THE OVERALL NEED IS FOR EVERYBODY.
06:29:18 SO I DON'T KNOW THE THERE'S A TIME FRAME TO MOVE THIS OR
06:29:22 WE CAN HOLD OFF TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION.
06:29:24 TO GO TO THE GROUPS IN EACH DISTRICT.
06:29:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
06:29:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MECHANIK?
06:29:34 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ABSOLUTELY.
06:29:35 DAVID MECHANIK AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
06:29:37 I MEAN, I WOULD RATHER IT BE CONTINUED AND STUDIED
06:29:43 FURTHER THAN DENIED, CERTAINLY.
06:29:47 SO I WOULD DEFINITELY REQUEST THAT.
06:29:49 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS YET?
06:29:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET, NOT YET.
06:29:56 LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY MOTIONS.
06:29:58 IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
06:30:01 NUMBER 9.
06:30:02 IS THERE ANYBODY THAT REGISTERED, ANY DOCUMENTS OR
06:30:04 ANYTHING?
06:30:05 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
06:30:08 NOR HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:30:11 >>
06:30:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE CONVENTION CENTER?
06:30:14 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
06:30:15 THERE IS NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
06:30:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THERE IS NO
06:30:23 PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:30:24 DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME OR ALLOW THE PETITIONER
06:30:25 TO MAKE A MOTION?
06:30:27 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
06:30:28 THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
06:30:30 THANK YOU.
06:30:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
06:30:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR A MOTION TO CONTINUE YOU DO NOT
06:30:40 CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
06:30:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN WE ASK THE PETITIONER HOW MUCH
06:30:44 TIME HE NEEDS?
06:30:49 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCIL.
06:30:50 IT'S NOT THAT I NEED ADDITIONAL TIME.
06:30:53 IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER MR. GUDES CONDUCTS THE
06:30:59 COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT HE'S RECOMMENDING, HOW LONG THAT
06:31:02 WOULD TAKE.
06:31:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS AT ALL
06:31:08 A.GROWING CITY NEEDS SOMEWHERE.
06:31:13 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PETITIONER GET A DAY BEFORE
06:31:16 COUNCIL.
06:31:16 I WOULD RECOMMEND A CONTINUANCE OF SIXTY DAYS.
06:31:21 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.
06:31:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND AN EVENING SESSION.
06:31:26 LET'S PUT IT AT DECEMBER 10 AT 6:00 P.M.
06:31:29 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, MR. MECHANIK, SIXTY DAYS
06:31:38 WOULD GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO TALK TO ALL OF US AND MAYBE
06:31:41 TALK TO STAFF.
06:31:42 BUT JUST AS A SUGGESTION, THE CITY HAS JUST ADDED
06:31:47 PLANNERS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS.
06:31:50 RANDY GOERS IS ONE OF THEM AND OF COURSE CAROLE POST.
06:31:53 MAYBE YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THIS, BUT THEY ARE
06:31:56 GOING THROUGH AND, TO MY COLLEAGUES, YOU REMEMBER WE
06:31:59 TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IDEA
06:32:03 THAT WE ASKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:32:04 NOW THE CITY HAS TAKEN THAT IN-HOUSE AND INSTEAD OF DOING
06:32:08 ONE A YEAR THEY ARE DOING TWO, NOW CALLED THE PALMA CEIA
06:32:13 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
06:32:14 ANOTHER ONE IS MAIN STREET AND WEST TAMPA.
06:32:17 BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT AND MAYBE WE CAN
06:32:23 ASK PLANNING STAFF TO COME BEFORE US AND JUST TALK TO US
06:32:25 ABOUT THEIR TIMELINE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT PLANNING, AND
06:32:31 THE IN-DEPTH PLANNING.
06:32:33 I KNOW THEY WILL GET TO EAST TAMPA SOON AND MAYBE 130
06:32:36 JUST OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO LOOK
06:32:38 AT.
06:32:39 PLUS OCTOBER 22ND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT AREAS OF
06:32:42 THE CITY WANT GROWTH AND WHICH ONES DON'T.
06:32:44 SO THAT'S A GREAT ONE AS WELL.
06:32:47 BUT I THINK MY FEELING, BESIDES JUST CUTTING CERTAIN
06:32:51 AREAS OUT OF THIS, IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A ROBUST
06:32:54 CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT
06:32:57 SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST AN AD HOC KIND OF LAND CHANGE.
06:33:04 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
06:33:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:33:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:33:08 I THINK THAT REGARDLESS OF THE TIME THE APPLICANT IS
06:33:13 FINE, BUT THE MAIN ISSUE THAT'S REALLY BEFORE US IS
06:33:15 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT
06:33:17 ALL OF THIS WOULD BE PLACED INTO WEST TAMPA WITH
06:33:20 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
06:33:21 I THINK WE ALL WANT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN AREAS THAT
06:33:24 ARE UNDERDEVELOPED AND IN NEED OF MORE ROBUST INFUSION OF
06:33:32 ENTERPRISE ET CETERA, BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT
06:33:34 EFFECT IS THIS GOING TO HAVE DISTRIBUTED IN EAST TAMPA.
06:33:38 SO I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD
06:33:41 WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES IN PARTICULAR.
06:33:43 I MEAN ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS INCLUDING THE CITY-WIDE
06:33:45 ESPECIALLY, BUT ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN GUDES, TO HAVE THAT
06:33:49 CONVERSATION AND SEE WHAT ACCOMMODATION OF THESE CHANGES
06:33:51 CAN BE HAD IN EAST TAMPA TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT
06:33:56 COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD, BUT THE CONCERNS OF UNINTENDED
06:33:59 CONSEQUENCES THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS.
06:34:01 YOU GET ONE, YOU GET BOTH, IN OTHER WORDS.
06:34:03 THAT'S MY MESSAGE.
06:34:05 SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT BEFORE SIXTY DAYS.
06:34:09 JUST MY THOUGHT.
06:34:11 THANK YOU, SIR.
06:34:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
06:34:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S JUST LIKE A DOUBLE
06:34:18 EDGE SWORD.
06:34:19 YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOCK THAT SWORD DOWN TO
06:34:26 ONE IN THE EAST, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW GREAT IT COULD BE,
06:34:31 AND HOW THIS PLAN IS GOING TO WORK OUT.
06:34:33 SO I AM JUST ASKING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE IT.
06:34:36 WE HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS, EAST TAMPA,
06:34:41 SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, TO GET THEIR
06:34:44 INPUT.
06:34:44 I DON'T WANT TO BE THE LONE RANGER TO MAKE A DECISION OF
06:34:48 OUR CONSTITUENTS, FOR THIS TYPE OF PLAN.
06:34:52 I THINK IT'S FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
06:34:53 WE WANT DEVELOPMENT.
06:34:54 WE WANT ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT.
06:34:55 BUT DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
06:34:59 AND SAYING, WHERE IS EAST TAMPA'S PLAN?
06:35:02 EVERYONE HAS A PLAN.
06:35:03 WHERE IS OUR PLAN IN THE EAST?
06:35:07 I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
06:35:09 EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT THE EAST.
06:35:12 TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE.
06:35:13 BUT WHERE IS THE PLAN?
06:35:15 I THINK THAT IS KEY FOR THE REPORT.
06:35:18 GIVE US THE PLAN.
06:35:21 HAVE CONVERSATION WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.
06:35:23 >>CATE WELLS: WITH REGARD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH,
06:35:28 I AM UNCLEAR AS TO WHO IS TAKING THE INITIATIVE ON THAT.
06:35:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN?
06:35:43 MY SUGGESTION IS YOU LEAVE ENOUGH TIME TO AT LEAST GET A
06:35:47 HANDLE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING ON OCTOBER 22ND AND MAYBE
06:35:51 BRING IT UP FOR STAFF ON OCTOBER 22ND AND GIVE DIRECTION
06:35:54 AS A RESULT OF THE WORKSHOP, KEEPING IN MIND WHAT YOUR
06:35:58 DISCUSSION IS HERE TONIGHT.
06:35:59 THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
06:36:01 AND THEN STILL LEAVE ENOUGH TIME AFTER THE 22ND OF
06:36:04 OCTOBER TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO MAKE A
06:36:08 DECISION HOW THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD BEFORE THIS
06:36:10 COMES BACK TO COUNCIL SO IT CAN BE RESOLVED.
06:36:22 IT.
06:36:23 >>>: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:36:24 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE OTHER THING.
06:36:26 I THINK THE AREA THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED, THE AREA BETWEEN
06:36:29 DOWNTOWN AND ROME AND NORTH AND SOUTH BOARDED BY 275 AND
06:36:33 KENNEDY, THAT AREA, ANYBODY WHO DRIVES THROUGH THERE
06:36:36 OBVIOUSLY SEES HEAVY DENSITY GOING ON THERE, AND I DON'T
06:36:40 KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PLANNING THERE IS, BUT THAT AREA IS
06:36:43 PAST THE TIPPING POINT.
06:36:45 AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION
06:36:49 WITH THAT COMMUNITY AND GET A LARGER DESIGNATION THERE.
06:36:54 WHEN TALKING ABOUT WEST TAMPA, IT'S A HUGE AREA, BUT THAT
06:36:57 PARTICULAR PIECE IS ALREADY PAST THE TIPPING POINT, AS
06:37:01 YOU GO FURTHER WEST, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS GET MORE
06:37:03 AND MORE CONCERNED.
06:37:04 BUT THERE'S A SECTION THERE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO -- IN
06:37:11 ON TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS DOING SOME PLANNING AND
06:37:14 VISIONING AND PUBLIC OUTREACH.
06:37:15 JUST A THOUGHT.
06:37:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:37:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:37:19 MR. CARLSON, I AGREE WITH YOU.
06:37:21 I WANTED TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID EARLIER,
06:37:26 BECAUSE I THINK HE'S LOOKING ON.
06:37:29 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO EAST TAMPA.
06:37:34 PEOPLE WILL POINT TO THESE RED DOTS AND THEY WILL SAY,
06:37:38 OH, THIS IS A MIXED USE CATEGORY.
06:37:43 AND IF THEY PUT UP A BUILDING AND THEY HAVE TO PUT UP
06:37:48 SHOPS AND STUFF AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT'S NOT THE
06:37:51 WAY THAT YOU DID THE COMP PLAN NOR THE CODE READS.
06:37:55 SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT.
06:37:59 AS MR. CITRO SAID, AND MR. HEY CONFIRMED, YOU KNOW, THE
06:38:03 MIXED USE CATEGORY, THEY CAN COME IN WITH 99% APARTMENT
06:38:08 BUILDING AND HAVE A 10-FOOT CLOSET THAT THEY CALL
06:38:14 COMMERCIAL, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT SATISFIES THE
06:38:19 DESCRIPTION OF MIXED USE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T
06:38:23 TIGHTENED THAT UP YET.
06:38:28 DAVID HEY, ABOUT TIGHTENING UP, AND THAT'S REALLY A
06:38:33 QUESTION OF POLICY FOR THIS COUNCIL.
06:38:36 BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT.
06:38:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RIGHT.
06:38:42 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT -- JUST THROW A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS
06:38:48 SOMEWHERE, AND THROWING PEOPLE IN, THAT DOESN'T DO
06:38:51 ANYTHING FOR THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THAT COMMUNITY.
06:39:04 YOU CAN BRING A BARBERSHOP.
06:39:06 WALK UP TO GO INSIDE.
06:39:08 AND I GO TO OTHER COMMUNITIES AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE.
06:39:13 PEOPLE HAVE NICE SHOPS ON THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN WALK AND
06:39:17 ENJOY AND RELAX.
06:39:19 THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
06:39:30 WHAT IS IT GOING TO BRING?
06:39:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND WEST TAMPA DOES HAVE VERY FEW
06:39:35 PIECES OF LAND, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT'S
06:39:38 UNDERUTILIZED, AND SOME PROPERTIES ON HOWARD AVENUE AND
06:39:46 ARMENIA AVENUE, AND KENNEDY.
06:39:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE
06:40:03 FLOOR?
06:40:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOWARD AND ARMENIA, AND JUST DRIVE UP
06:40:07 THE STREETS, AND LOOK AT THEM.
06:40:09 AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE FOR SALE OR NOT.
06:40:12 BUT EVERYTHING HAS A PRICE, I GUESS.
06:40:14 THERE'S SOME PROPERTIES THAT UNDERUTILIZED BY THE
06:40:17 BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THEM FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
06:40:19 AND IT WOULD BE REDEVELOPMENT.
06:40:21 IT WOULD BRING UP THE AREA.
06:40:23 NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
06:40:24 I'M NOT TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS.
06:40:26 I JUST DON'T WANT ALL OF IT, ONE SECTION, WHEREVER THE
06:40:30 SECTION IS FROM WHETHER IT'S SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA,
06:40:34 EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY
06:40:37 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
06:40:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HEY, AND THEN MOTION TO MOVE
06:40:41 THIS ALONG.
06:40:41 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:40:46 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
06:40:50 THE LAND USE CATEGORY OF CMU-35 AND CC-35, ALL THESE
06:40:57 PARCELS THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN RED CAN GO UP TO A 2 RIGHT
06:41:01 NOW.
06:41:02 THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR ANYTHING AT ALL.
06:41:08 COULD ALL BE SINGLE-USE STRUCTURES UNDER HOW THE PLAN IS
06:41:11 WRITTEN CURRENTLY.
06:41:13 THIS WOULD INCENTIVIZE THAT MIXED USE, BUT I JUST WANTED
06:41:21 TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR EVEN ONE
06:41:27 PERCENT.
06:41:28 THERE'S SINGLE USE.
06:41:31 THE WHOLLY MIXED USE CATEGORY DO -- COULD BE PROPOSED
06:41:35 JUST FOR SUNG WILL USE STRUCTURES.
06:41:38 WE SAW THAT IN WEST TAMPA WHEN A LOT OF THOSE FIRST
06:41:40 DEVELOPMENTS BEGAN.
06:41:44 YOUR STAFF IN MEETING WITH APPLICANTS WOULD ALWAYS SAY,
06:41:47 YOU ARE IN A MIXED USE AND IT'S ENCOURAGED BUT THERE ARE
06:41:50 NO TOOLS TO ENCOURAGE IT.
06:41:52 THEY SAY THANK YOU, AND THEN THEY WOULD MOVE ON TO
06:41:55 PROPOSE THEIR SINGLE USE APARTMENT BUILDING.
06:41:57 NOW YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE THE MARKET RESPOND AND
06:42:00 ACTUALLY -- SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR PLANNING STAFF THOUGHT IF
06:42:10 THE APPLICATION WAS APPROPRIATE BASED ON LIMITING IT TO
06:42:13 THE CORRIDORS.
06:42:16 THEY ARE NOT -- THE EXPANSION INTO NEIGHBORHOODS IS NOT
06:42:20 GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON
06:42:22 THAT ROADWAY.
06:42:24 EVEN IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NEXT DOOR TO IT OR
06:42:28 ANYTHING.
06:42:28 IF IT DOESN'T MEET THOSE STRICT REQUIREMENTS, IT CAN'T
06:42:33 EVEN BE -- IT COULD STILL BE CONSIDERED FOR MIXED USE,
06:42:36 BUT IT WOULDN'T GET ANY -- IT WOULD STILL MEET THE CODE
06:42:40 THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
06:42:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:42:43 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS OR WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
06:42:45 DO?
06:42:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL MEGA MOTION-OH MAKE A MOTION TO
06:42:51 CONTINUE IT UNTIL WE CAN GET WITH STAFF, AND IN REFERENCE
06:42:54 TO THIS ITEM, AND ALSO IN REFERENCE TO A MASTER PLAN,
06:42:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:42:59 I KNOW SOME OTHER DISTRICTS ALREADY HAVE IT BUT EAST
06:43:02 TAMPA DOESN'T.
06:43:03 SO I KNOW OCTOBER IS SUPPOSED TO BRING INFORMATION
06:43:06 WHETHER TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND MAYBE NEED TO GET
06:43:10 INCLUDED IN THAT AND MAYBE THOSE ANSWERS CAN BE ANSWERED
06:43:13 DURING THAT TIME.
06:43:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT.
06:43:16 MR --
06:43:22 >> THIS BEING POSITIVE TURD THE WAY IT IS, WOULD
06:43:26 DECEMBER -- DECEMBER 10th, OR THE EVENING OF JANUARY
06:43:31 252nd 1st BE ACCEPTABLE?
06:43:41 DO YOU WANT TO ASK MR. MECHANIK WHAT HIS PREFERENCE IS?
06:43:48 >>DAVID MECHANIK: MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE DECEMBER 10
06:43:50 SIMPLY BECAUSE SOONER, BUT I FULLY UNDERSTAND IF YOU
06:43:54 DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, IT MAY HAVE TO BE CONTINUED
06:44:00 AGAIN.
06:44:01 BUT I WOULD RATHER SCHEDULE IT FOR THE EARLIER DATE, AND
06:44:05 THEN PUSH IT BACK.
06:44:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:44:11 SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THIS FOR DECEMBER 10,
06:44:15 6 P.M.?
06:44:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAKE IT AGAIN, DECEMBER 10th.
06:44:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION TO CONTINUE?
06:44:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:44:28 THAT'S A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR DECEMBER 10.
06:44:32 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
06:44:33 OKAY.
06:44:34 DISCUSSION?
06:44:35 HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:44:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:44:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:44:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:44:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:44:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:44:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:44:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:44:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:44:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:44:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION
06:45:04 IN REFERENCE TO THE PLAN TO BRING BACK ON THE 22ND TO
06:45:09 DISCUSS --
06:45:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION -- YES.
06:45:13 IN NEW BUSINESS YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION TO BRING
06:45:16 BACK THE ISSUE, AND COME BACK WITH A MASTER PLAN BY THE
06:45:19 22ND.
06:45:20 THAT'S THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.
06:45:21 CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER, SIR.
06:45:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:45:25 WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
06:45:27 ITEM NUMBER 10, PLEASE.
06:45:28 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:45:34 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
06:45:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.
06:45:46 GO AHEAD.
06:45:47 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR 2004,
06:45:53 OBJECTIVE 11.2 AND ASSOCIATED POLICIES.
06:45:56 THIS IS INITIATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WITH
06:45:59 COOPERATION OF CITY OF TAMPA AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
06:46:03 DELETE OBJECTIVE RMU 11.2 AND POLICIES.
06:46:10 THE OBJECTIVE ITSELF IS HIGHLIGHTING SPECIFIC POLICING
06:46:13 ACTIVITY BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
06:46:18 WE JUST FOUND THAT HAVING THE TERM IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:46:22 PLAN SUCH AS CRACK HOUSE, AND WE WOULD INSTEAD DIRECT THE
06:46:30 POLICE DEPARTMENT TO FOCUS ON ALL ACTIVITIES, AND HAS
06:46:37 BEEN IN THE PLAN SINCE ABOUT 1958 SO IT'S PROBABLY DUE,
06:46:43 IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICIES ON RESIDENTIAL
06:46:45 NEIGHBORHOODS, AND --
06:46:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM
06:46:56 COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ITEM NUMBER 10?
06:47:02 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
06:47:05 10?
06:47:08 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
06:47:11 NOR DO WE HAVE ANY DOCUMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:47:16 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
06:47:17 WE HAVE NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
06:47:19 THANK YOU.
06:47:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:47:21 ALL RIGHT.
06:47:22 CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
06:47:27 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
06:47:31 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:47:33 HEARING NONE, WITHOUT OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT,
06:47:37 THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
06:47:38 WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
06:47:44 MOTION -- AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:47:50 ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:47:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:47:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:47:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:47:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:47:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:48:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:48:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:48:05 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:48:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:48:08 WE NOW GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
06:48:11 CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ITEMS 11 THROUGH 23?
06:48:14 >> SO MOVED.
06:48:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:48:18 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
06:48:20 ANY OBJECTION?
06:48:24 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE HEARINGS
06:48:27 ARE NOW OPEN.
06:48:28 WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 11.
06:48:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TAKING OVER FOR
06:48:32 JUST A MOMENT.
06:48:41 >>JENNIFER MALONE: ITEM NUMBER 11 IS SECOND READING AND
06:48:43 ADOPTION FOR TAMPA PLAN AMENDMENT 2018, THIS WAS HEARD BY
06:48:46 COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 10th, 2020, AND I AM HERE FOR
06:48:51 QUESTIONS.
06:48:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, DO WE NEED TO SWEAR THE
06:49:02 PETITIONER IN?
06:49:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THEY PLAN ON MAKING ANY PUBLIC
06:49:06 STATEMENTS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
06:49:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO INTETO THIS
06:49:11 ORDINANCE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
06:49:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON
06:49:14 THIS BESIDES MR. BENTLEY?
06:49:16 >>THE CLERK: NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED TO
06:49:18 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
06:49:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
06:49:21 >>THE CLERK: YOU'RE WELCOME.
06:49:22 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH
06:49:25 AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
06:49:27 >> I DO.
06:49:28 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
06:49:30 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:49:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
06:49:33 >>THE CLERK: YOU'RE WELCOME.
06:49:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. MALONE, ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR
06:49:41 REPORT?
06:49:42 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I AM FINISHED WITH MY REPORT, SIR.
06:49:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BENTLEY.
06:49:45 >>MARK BENTLEY: MY NAME IS MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST
06:49:50 JACKSON STREET TAMPA 33602 AND I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.
06:49:54 THIS IS SECOND READING, A SMALL PARCEL ON THE NORTH SIDE
06:49:57 OF CYPRESS STREET, RELATES TO THE MIDTOWN PROJECT THAT'S
06:50:01 UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
06:50:03 ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
06:50:04 AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT
06:50:09 BY AMENDING THE PD WHICH WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
06:50:12 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HERE TO TRY TO ANSWER
06:50:14 THEM.
06:50:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
06:50:19 ANYONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER?
06:50:24 ANY COMMENT?
06:50:29 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
06:50:30 THERE IS NO ONE HERE FOR THIS ITEM.
06:50:33 THANK YOU.
06:50:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY YOU I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE
06:50:36 HEARING?
06:50:42 WHO WAS THAT?
06:50:46 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:50:48 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:50:50 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
06:51:03 ROLL CALL FOR THE VOTE, PLEASE.
06:51:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:51:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:51:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE WE VOTING ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC
06:51:13 HEARING?
06:51:17 YES.
06:51:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:51:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:51:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:51:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:51:27 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:51:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAND BACK THE GAVEL.
06:51:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 11.
06:51:34 DID WE JUST CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
06:51:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S CORRECT.
06:51:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU
06:51:38 MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 11?
06:51:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:51:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PA 20-18.
06:52:10 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
06:52:12 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE
06:52:15 LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR PROPERTY
06:52:18 LOCATED GENERALLY AT 3615 WEST CYPRESS STREET FROM
06:52:23 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 CC-35 TO REGIONAL MIXED USE 100,
06:52:29 MU 100, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
06:52:32 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
06:52:34 EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:52:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND?
06:52:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
06:52:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:52:41 ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:52:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:52:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:52:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:52:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:52:52 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:52:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:52:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:52:57 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:53:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:53:03 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 12.
06:53:05 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:53:09 ITEM 12 IS PA 20-20.
06:53:14 IT IS PUBLICLY INITIATED SO THERE WILL BE NO APPLICANT.
06:53:17 IT IS SECOND READING FOR COMMERCIAL 35 TO REGIONAL MIXED
06:53:21 USE 100.
06:53:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:53:28 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
06:53:31 ITEM NUMBER 12?
06:53:32 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
06:53:35 AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:53:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
06:53:42 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
06:53:43 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
06:53:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:53:47 ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE WE ASK FOR A
06:53:51 MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
06:53:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:53:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
06:53:56 BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:53:58 ANY OBJECTION?
06:53:58 HEARING NO OBJECTION, THEREFORE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE
06:54:02 PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
06:54:04 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS ITEM,
06:54:07 ITEM NUMBER 12?
06:54:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE PA 20-20.
06:54:13 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
06:54:16 ADOPTION.
06:54:16 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
06:54:19 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND
06:54:22 USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF THE
06:54:24 INTERSECTION OF WEST CYPRESS STREET AND NORTH OF HIMES
06:54:27 AVENUE FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, CC-35, TO REGIONAL
06:54:32 MIXED USE 100, RMU 100, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
06:54:37 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
06:54:39 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:54:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
06:54:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
06:54:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ROLL
06:54:44 CALL VOTE.
06:54:45 >>LUIS VIERA: (NO RESPONSE)
06:54:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:54:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:55:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:55:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:55:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:55:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:55:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
06:55:11 VOTE.
06:55:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:55:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONLY ONE WHO IS MISSING IS
06:55:18 COUNCILMAN VIERA PRESENTLY?
06:55:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:55:22 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 13.
06:55:27 >>JAMES COOK: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF.
06:55:30 STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO WHAT IS BEING -- THE ORDINANCE
06:55:33 BEING READ FOR SECOND READING.
06:55:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:55:42 DO WE HAVE KNEW QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME?
06:55:45 NO?
06:55:45 ALL RIGHT.
06:55:47 WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
06:55:48 ANYTHING?
06:55:49 >> RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE ZONING.
06:55:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
06:56:02 ANYBODY?
06:56:03 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
06:56:05 THIS ITEM, NUMBER 13?
06:56:11 >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:56:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MRS. SAMANIEGO, YOU ARE ON THE
06:56:17 SCREEN.
06:56:18 ANYTHING?
06:56:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
06:56:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER.
06:56:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW, WHERE IS WALDO?
06:56:29 MRS. KERT, I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING AND SEE YOU AND
06:56:33 EVERYTHING ELSE.
06:56:34 IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICE, SINCE THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP
06:56:42 BETWEEN THE TWO, IS THAT RIGHT?
06:56:45 >>REBECCA KERT: THAT'S CORRECT.
06:56:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:56:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT, DO WE
06:56:58 HAVE A MOTION THEN TO --
06:57:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:57:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN YOU ASK ABOUT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
06:57:08 CENTER? NOBODY THERE.
06:57:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S CORRECT?
06:57:12 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: NO ONE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
06:57:13 CORRECT.
06:57:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:57:15 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:57:17 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:57:18 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
06:57:21 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
06:57:23 NOW CLOSED.
06:57:25 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS NOT ON.
06:57:27 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM
06:57:30 NUMBER 13?
06:57:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 13, FILE NUMBER
06:57:35 VAC 20-12, PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
06:57:41 ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND
06:57:44 ABANDONING ALL THAT PORTION OF AREA LINE STREET AND THOSE
06:57:49 TWO PORTIONS OF ALLEY IN C, B, TUME'S SUBDIVISION LYING
06:57:56 SOUTH OF HANNA AVENUE NORTH OF PARIS AVENUE EAST OF LYNN
06:58:01 AVENUE AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
06:58:05 DESCRIBED IN SECTION HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
06:58:08 CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET
06:58:11 FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:58:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I
06:58:15 BELIEVE.
06:58:16 ALL RIGHT.
06:58:16 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
06:58:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:58:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:58:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:58:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:58:26 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:58:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:58:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:58:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:58:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:58:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONGRATULATIONS.
06:58:40 >>REBECCA KERT: THANK YOU.
06:58:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 14.
06:58:43 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 14 IS REZ 20-57, IS THE
06:58:51 SECOND READING TO EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT.
06:58:55 THIS APPLICATION IS READY TO PROCEED.
06:58:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:59:01 GO AHEAD.
06:59:07 DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON?
06:59:10 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
06:59:12 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
06:59:18 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
06:59:20 >> I DO.
06:59:21 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
06:59:23 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:59:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
06:59:27 GO AHEAD.
06:59:27 >> JESSICA ICERMAN, STEARNS WEAVER MILLER, JACKSON STREET
06:59:34 SUITE 2100. THIS CASE IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST
06:59:37 LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER NORTH OF COLUMBUS
06:59:39 DRIVE, AND SOUTH OF MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
06:59:42 THE APPLICATION CAME BEFORE YOU AT FIRST READING ON
06:59:45 SEPTEMBER 10, 2020.
06:59:47 YOU MAY RECALL THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD -- AND
06:59:54 REQUESTING TO GO BACK TO TWO SINGLE LOTS UNDER RS-50
06:59:58 ZONING.
06:59:58 ALTHOUGH THE CLIENT INTENDS TO BUILD HIS OHM ON THE
07:00:00 PROPERTY AS ONE LOT AT THIS TIME.
07:00:03 PER CODE IT WOULD QUALIFY FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS,
07:00:06 HOWEVER.
07:00:06 AT FIRST HEARING -- I'M SORRY.
07:00:09 AT FIRST HEARING, WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS VOTE AND WOULD
07:00:13 RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL ON SECOND READING THIS
07:00:15 EVENING.
07:00:16 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
07:00:17 AND APOLOGIES.
07:00:19 AT 7:00 OUR OFFICE LIGHTS TURN OFF.
07:00:22 SO I AM IN THE DARK NOW.
07:00:24 THANK YOU.
07:00:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
07:00:27 APPLICANT?
07:00:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TELL TOM WEAVER HE HAS TO PAY THAT
07:00:34 ELECTRIC BILL.
07:00:36 >> WILL DO.
07:00:37 [ LAUGHTER ]
07:00:41 SOMEONE WAS SUPPOSED TO CALL IN AND TO MAKE SURE THE
07:00:44 LIGHTS STAYED ON PAST 7 AND THAT PHONE CALL WAS NOT MADE.
07:00:48 BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT.
07:00:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:00:50 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
07:00:51 IF NOT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM NUMBER 14 N.
07:00:55 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED OH TO SPEAK ON THIS
07:00:59 ITEM.
07:01:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION
07:01:02 CENTER?
07:01:04 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE AT THE CONVENTION
07:01:06 CENTER TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:01:07 THANK YOU.
07:01:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:01:09 IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:01:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
07:01:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
07:01:15 MIRANDA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
07:01:17 ANY OBJECTIONS?
07:01:19 WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THIS HEARING
07:01:21 IS NOW CLOSED.
07:01:23 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 14?
07:01:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:01:28 FILE REZ 20-57, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
07:01:33 READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
07:01:37 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4033 NORTH RIVER VIEW AVENUE IN
07:01:43 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
07:01:46 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
07:01:48 CLASSIFICATIONS PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
07:01:52 SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI -- DETACHED, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL
07:01:58 SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:02:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:02:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
07:02:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
07:02:08 MIRANDA.
07:02:08 CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
07:02:10 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:02:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:02:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:02:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:02:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:02:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:02:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:02:25 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:02:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:02:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:02:32 ITEM NUMBER 15.
07:02:34 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 15 IS REZ 20-62.
07:02:39 IT'S A SECOND READING FOR EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT.
07:02:42 I ASK THE CITY TO PROCEED WITH THE APPLICATION.
07:02:45 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
07:02:57 >>THE CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
07:02:59 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:03:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:03:05 GO AHEAD.
07:03:15 MR. MICHELINI, YOU ARE MUTED.
07:03:17 HAS EVERYBODY BEEN SWORN IN?
07:03:20 MR. MICHELINI, YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:03:24 MR. MICHELINI, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
07:03:41 HERE WE GO.
07:03:41 NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU.
07:03:42 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
07:03:45 APPROVAL.
07:03:45 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
07:03:48 WE RECEIVED APPROVAL IN THE FIRST READING.
07:03:51 AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
07:03:54 HAVE.
07:03:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:03:56 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
07:04:00 HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT.
07:04:02 DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER
07:04:05 15?
07:04:05 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED OH TO SPEAK ON THIS
07:04:09 ITEM.
07:04:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
07:04:14 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS
07:04:17 ITEM.
07:04:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE IS NOBODY ELSE CAN I HAVE A
07:04:20 MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
07:04:21 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:04:24 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
07:04:26 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THIS HEARING IS NOW
07:04:29 CLOSED.
07:04:29 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER
07:04:33 15?
07:04:33 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-62.
07:04:39 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
07:04:41 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
07:04:43 VICINITY OF 3502 AND 3506 WEST TACON STREET IN THE CITY
07:04:48 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
07:04:50 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60
07:04:54 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
07:04:57 SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:04:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:05:03 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
07:05:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:05:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:05:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:05:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:05:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:05:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:05:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:05:21 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:05:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:05:26 ITEM NUMBER 16.
07:05:30 ITEM NUMBER 16.
07:05:31 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:05:33 COORDINATION.
07:05:34 ITEM NUMBER 16 IS REZ 20-64.
07:05:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY, MARY.
07:05:38 I NEED TO INTERRUPT.
07:05:39 I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON THIS ITEM, 710 WEST KENTUCKY
07:05:44 AVENUE.
07:05:45 AS I STATED EARLIER IN THE MEETING, I SHOULD HAVE RECUSED
07:05:49 MYSELF AT THE FIRST HEARING BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE EXACTLY
07:05:52 WHAT BLOCK OF KENTUCKY THIS WAS ON.
07:05:55 I THOUGHT IT WAS FURTHER WEST.
07:05:56 BUT NOW THAT I LOOK AT THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING, I REALIZE
07:06:01 IT'S VERY CLOSE TO BE A CLIENT OF MINE.
07:06:03 AND I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE POTENTIAL BENEFIT FROM THIS
07:06:09 REZONING, AND I BELIEVE THAT IN THE INTEREST OF
07:06:13 APPEARANCES, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF I RECUSE MYSELF S.THAT
07:06:18 ADEQUATE, MR. SHELBY?
07:06:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY IS MUTED.
07:06:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:06:29 YES.
07:06:30 I WILL GET THAT FORM FOR YOU AND I WILL BE DELIVERING IT
07:06:34 TO HAVE YOU BE ABLE TO SUBMIT IT WITHIN 15 DAYS.
07:06:38 BY NEXT WEEK HOPEFULLY IS THE CASE.
07:06:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
07:06:42 I'LL TUNE OUT.
07:06:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:06:48 LET'S BEGIN ITEM NUMBER 16.
07:06:50 MS. SAMANIEGO?
07:06:52 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS IS ITEM NUMBER REZ 20-64.
07:06:59 IT'S READY TO PROCEED.
07:07:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:07:02 PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, APPLICANT.
07:07:03 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
07:07:05 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
07:07:07 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:07:09 >> YES.
07:07:10 >> YES.
07:07:11 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOTE RECEIVE ANY
07:07:13 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:07:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:07:18 THE PETITIONER ON THE LINE.
07:07:19 GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:07:20 >> I AM TRACY HAMILTON.
07:07:24 MY WIFE MICHELLE HAMILTON RESIDING AT 710 WEST KENTUCKY.
07:07:28 WE ARE JUST REQUESTING A REZONING FROM RS-60 TO RS-50 TO
07:07:33 ALLOW FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE BUILT.
07:07:39 A SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE.
07:07:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
07:07:43 PETITIONER?
07:07:46 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYBODY
07:07:49 REGISTERED OR AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
07:07:51 >> WE DID RECEIVE ONE REGISTRATION TO SUPPORT THE
07:07:55 APPLICATION FROM KELLY WYLEY BUT SHE DID NOT REGISTER.
07:07:59 SHE'S NOT LOGGED IN RIGHT NOW.
07:08:04 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
07:08:04 CENTER.
07:08:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:08:08 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:08:11 WE HAVE OOH MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
07:08:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
07:08:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:08:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:08:21 ANY OBJECTION?
07:08:21 WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
07:08:24 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
07:08:27 16?
07:08:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ-20-64.
07:08:33 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
07:08:35 ADOPTION.
07:08:36 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
07:08:38 710 WEST KENTUCKY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
07:08:41 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
07:08:44 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
07:08:48 TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
07:08:51 DATE.
07:08:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ROLL
07:08:55 CALL VOTE.
07:08:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:09:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:09:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:09:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:09:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:09:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:09:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSTAINING.
07:09:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
07:09:17 NEXT WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 17.
07:09:20 I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES WILL ABSTAIN FROM THIS.
07:09:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
07:09:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE REASON IS YOU SAID PREVIOUSLY A
07:09:34 FAMILY RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE?
07:09:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:09:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:09:38 I WILL GET THE FORM FOR YOU, HOPEFULLY BEFORE NEXT WEEK.
07:09:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:09:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:09:46 ITEM NUMBER 17.
07:09:48 IF YOU WILL PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
07:09:50 AND THE CLERK WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
07:09:52 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
07:09:55 WHOLLY TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:09:58 >> YES.
07:09:59 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
07:10:01 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:10:02 >> THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 17, REZ 20-33.
07:10:12 ALL THE REQUIRED CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
07:10:15 HAVE BEEN MADE AND THAT SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO
07:10:17 THE CITY CLERK.
07:10:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
07:10:23 APPLICANT.
07:10:26 YOU ARE MUTED.
07:10:27 YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.
07:10:28 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:10:32 YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
07:10:39 >> OOH.
07:10:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
07:10:53 >> VERY GOOD.
07:10:56 LAND ENGINEER, WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE [AUDIO CUTTING
07:11:01 OUT]
07:11:03 AND I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:11:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
07:11:11 ALL RIGHT.
07:11:13 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK,
07:11:15 ANYBODY REGISTERED OR ANY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
07:11:17 RECEIVED?
07:11:17 >>THE CLERK: NO WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
07:11:21 AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTERED PERSONS TO SPEAK.
07:11:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
07:11:28 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
07:11:29 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.
07:11:32 THANK YOU.
07:11:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:11:33 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE WE
07:11:35 GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
07:11:37 >> SO MOVED MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:11:47 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:11:49 WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
07:11:51 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
07:11:54 17?
07:11:55 >>LUIS VIERA: I SURE WILL.
07:11:56 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
07:11:58 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
07:12:01 GENERAL VICINITY OF 5114 EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD IN THE CITY
07:12:05 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
07:12:06 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG
07:12:10 COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESTAURANT
07:12:13 WITH DRIVE-IN, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:12:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
07:12:17 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:12:19 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
07:12:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:12:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:12:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:12:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:12:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:12:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:12:35 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES ABSTAINING.
07:12:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NOW GO TO REZONING.
07:12:46 I HEARD SOMETHING EARLIER.
07:12:47 DO FOLKS WISH TO TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE GO INTO SOME OF
07:12:51 THE LATER HEARINGS?
07:12:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
07:12:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:12:56 WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS, AND I KNOW ONE WILL BE
07:13:00 VERY LENGTHY.
07:13:00 DO WE TAKE NUMBER 18 AND AFTER THAT WE TAKE A BREAK OF
07:13:04 ABOUT 20 MINUTES OR SO?
07:13:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
07:13:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY NEED ANY LONGER, EAT
07:13:11 SOMETHING, WHATEVER IT IS, ANYTHING?
07:13:14 IS 20 MINUTES SUFFICIENT?
07:13:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK TEN MINUTES IS SUFFICIENT.
07:13:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, 10 OR 15.
07:13:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL DO 15.
07:13:25 WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 18.
07:13:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU CAN CONFIRM WITH THE
07:13:31 CLERK, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THESE HEARINGS WERE OPEN,
07:13:35 18 THROUGH --
07:13:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I OPENED EVERYTHING ALL THE WAY
07:13:38 THROUGH 23.
07:13:39 ALL RIGHT.
07:13:41 GO AHEAD.
07:13:42 PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE SWORN IN FOR ITEM NUMBER 18.
07:14:00 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE
07:14:02 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:14:05 >> YES.
07:14:05 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
07:14:06 THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS
07:14:08 ON THIS ITEM.
07:14:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:14:11 GO AHEAD.
07:14:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD EVENING.
07:14:14 RYAN MANASSE.
07:14:16 PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:14:17 FILE REZ 20-35 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 555 NORTH
07:14:20 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:14:22 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FROM A PD FOR A HOTEL, MOTEL.
07:14:26 AND THEY ARE REQUESTING PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR HOTEL,
07:14:29 MOTEL.
07:14:30 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT
07:14:32 AND REQUEST YOU RETURN TO ME SO I CAN FINISH MINE.
07:14:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:14:36 GO AHEAD.
07:14:36 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
07:14:40 COMMISSION.
07:14:40 I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
07:14:42 20-35 -- I APOLOGIZE.
07:14:49 LET ME GET MY SCREENS.
07:14:51 20-35 IS LOCATED AT 555 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:14:58 AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE WESTSHORE I-275
07:15:02 NORTH RAMP.
07:15:04 A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE COASTAL
07:15:08 HIGH HAZARD AREA.
07:15:10 IN LEVEL B EVACUATION ZONE.
07:15:11 IT IS ADJACENT TO THE HART WESTSHORE PLAZA TRANSFER
07:15:14 CENTER WHICH PROVIDES NUMEROUS CONNECTIONS FROM THE
07:15:16 SUBJECT SITE TO THE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
07:15:19 THIS IS THE WESTSHORE MALL RIGHT HERE.
07:15:22 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
07:15:26 REGIONAL MIXED USE 100, WHICH IS WITHIN THIS AREA.
07:15:30 THE AREA IS ALSO IDENTIFIED AS THE BUSINESS CENTER.
07:15:33 IT DOES -- THE LAND USE DOES TRANSITION TO A LOWER
07:15:38 DENSITY AS WE MOVE EAST.
07:15:40 THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 35 IN THE DARKER BROWN AND
07:15:43 RESIDENTIAL 20 IN THE LIGHTER BROWN.
07:15:45 WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:15:47 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE PD FOR INCREASE
07:15:52 SQUARE FOOTAGE.
07:15:53 IT IS STILL WELL WITHIN THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY
07:15:55 INCREASES WITHIN THE RMU-100 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
07:16:00 WE FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN AND COMPARABLE AND
07:16:02 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
07:16:04 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:16:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:16:07 BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I'M POSITIVE THAT THE MOTION THAT I
07:16:10 MADE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH
07:16:14 TO ITEM NUMBER 23, BUT LET'S, TO BE SAFE, CAN I GET A
07:16:18 MOTION TO OPEN ITEMS NUMBER 18 THROUGH 23?
07:16:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 18 THROUGH 23, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:16:26 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:16:29 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
07:16:29 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, ITEMS 18 TO 23 ARE
07:16:34 OPEN.
07:16:34 JUST TO BE SAFE FOR THE RECORD.
07:16:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE WITH PLANNING AND
07:16:39 DEVELOPMENT.
07:16:40 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
07:16:41 PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU SEE THE TITLE BLOCK.
07:16:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 20-35.
07:16:51 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:16:52 AGAIN, ITEM 18 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-35.
07:16:56 THIS IS THE APPLICANT PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY
07:16:58 LOCATED AT 555 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD FROM THE
07:17:01 EXISTING PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
07:17:03 TO ALLOW FOR THE PARTIAL RENOVATION OF THE HOTEL TO
07:17:07 INCLUDE A FUTURE MEETING ROOM EXPANSION ON THE SECOND
07:17:09 FLOOR.
07:17:10 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY APPROVED THROUGH THE PD FILE
07:17:12 NUMBER Z 82-55, AND THAT WAS FOR THE HOTEL OR MOTEL USE.
07:17:17 THIS 1982 APPROVAL WAS FOR 365,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING
07:17:21 AREA WITH 303 ROOMS.
07:17:24 THE EXISTING HOTEL IS 351,655 SQUARE FEET WITH 243 ROOMS.
07:17:32 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCREASES THE EXISTING NUMBER OF
07:17:34 ROOMS FROM 243 TO 273 AND A BUILDING AREA TO 354,665
07:17:41 SQUARE FEET.
07:17:42 THE 2.272-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST
07:17:46 CORNER OF NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AND WEST GRAY STREET
07:17:50 INTERSECTIONS.
07:17:50 IT IS SURROUNDED BY RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS
07:17:53 I-275, AND THE CG AND OP-1 ZONING DISTRICTS.
07:17:58 COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES TO THE SOUTH
07:18:00 AND THE CG AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY RM-24 ZONING
07:18:04 DISTRICTS.
07:18:05 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USE TO THE EAST IN RM-24 ZONING
07:18:10 DISTRICT AND WESTSHORE MALL TO THE WEST ZONED PD AS WELL
07:18:13 AS THE COMMERCIAL USES AND RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE CG ZONING
07:18:17 DISTRICT.
07:18:17 THE PD SETBACKS PER THE SITE PLAN ARE SHOWN AS THE NORTH
07:18:23 BEING -- I'M SORRY, TWO FEET, THE SOUTH BEING 15 FEET.
07:18:27 THE WEST BEING 0 AND EAST 40.
07:18:30 THE PARKING STRUCTURE TO THE NORTH SETBACKS ARE NORTH 0
07:18:35 FEET, SOUTH NOT APPLICABLE, WEST 0 FEET, AND EAST 40
07:18:40 FEET.
07:18:40 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 176 FEET AND
07:18:44 THE PARKING STRUCTURE AT 70 FEET.
07:18:46 THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 288 PARKING SPACES WITH RELOADING
07:18:50 BERTHS AND A TOTAL PROVIDED PARKING IS 228 SPACES, WHICH
07:18:54 IS A 21% REDUCTION WITH ONE LOADING BERTH.
07:18:59 ON THE PowerPoint IN FRONT OF YOU, THE SLIDE WILL SHOW
07:19:02 THE SEVEN WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.
07:19:04 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, AS YOU CAN SEE READ THROUGH
07:19:07 THEM IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS ON SCREEN, YOU SEE
07:19:09 MOST OF THESE WAIVERS, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, ARE THERE
07:19:13 BECAUSE OF EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE EXISTING HOTEL.
07:19:15 THE ZONING MAP SHOWS YOU THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HATCHED IN
07:19:21 GREEN.
07:19:21 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CG ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE
07:19:23 RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE OP-1 TO THE NORTH, RM-24 TO THE EAST
07:19:27 WITH THE CG TO THE SOUTH AS WELL AS RM-24.
07:19:30 THEN THE LARGE PD TO THE WEST, WHICH IS WESTSHORE MALL.
07:19:33 THE AERIAL MAP, SIMILAR TO WHAT JENNIFER SHOWED, IS JUST
07:19:37 SHOWING THE VICINITY AND THE THOUSAND-FOOT BUFFER OF ANY
07:19:41 HISTORICAL LANDMARKS WITHIN THE AREA.
07:19:42 THERE IS THE TAMPANIA HOUSE, WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT
07:19:45 THOUSAND-FOOT BUFFER.
07:19:47 THE NEXT SCREEN SHOWS THE SITE PLAN AND THE EXISTING
07:19:52 HOTEL.
07:19:52 IT'S MORE OF THAT BACKWARDS L-SHAPED LOT WITH TWO ACCESS
07:19:57 POINTS HERE ON GRAY SHEET, AND THOSE ARE EXISTING.
07:19:59 AND THEN THIS GRAYED OUT AREA, WHICH THE APPLICANT CAN
07:20:03 EXPLAIN FURTHER, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE NEW PROPOSED AREA.
07:20:05 AGAIN, THIS WASN'T A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD SO ANY
07:20:10 EXPANSION OR TRAINING THEY HAD TO COME BACK THROUGH
07:20:13 REZONING.
07:20:13 THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU SHOW THE ELEVATIONS.
07:20:16 THE LEFT BEING THE PROPOSED AND THE RIGHT PICTURES BEING
07:20:20 THE EXISTING.
07:20:20 AND THEN THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT SITE
07:20:24 THAT I TOOK.
07:20:25 THIS WOULD BE LOOKING NORTH ON BOTH OF THESE.
07:20:29 AND THEN THE SOUTH NEIGHBOR, WHICH IS THE SHORE COLONY
07:20:33 CONDOS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN THE OTHER SOUTH
07:20:36 NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY SOUTH WOULD BE A BANK AT 405 NORTH
07:20:39 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:20:41 THE EAST NEIGHBOR IS THE WESTSHORE APARTMENTS AT 4601
07:20:44 WEST GRAY STREET.
07:20:45 AND THE WEST NEIGHBORS BEING 500 NORTH WESTSHORE
07:20:47 BOULEVARD.
07:20:48 THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET.
07:20:49 THE NORTH, THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS NORTH ON WESTSHORE
07:20:53 BOULEVARD, AND THEN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS SOUTH ON
07:20:56 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:20:57 THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
07:21:00 COMPLIANCE STAFF, WE DID REVIEW THE APPLICATION, AND WE
07:21:03 FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
07:21:05 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
07:21:06 PLEASE REFERENCE FINDINGS BY THE TRANSPORTATION
07:21:09 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW RELATING TO THE INCONSISTENCY
07:21:13 FINDINGS.
07:21:13 IN THE EVENT CITY COUNCIL DOES APPROVE THIS REQUEST AND
07:21:16 THE WAIVERS LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE MINOR
07:21:18 MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED ON THE REVISION SHEET
07:21:21 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:21:23 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT REVISION SHEET IN THE
07:21:26 ORDINANCE READING.
07:21:27 SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLANNING STAFF AS WELL AS
07:21:30 NATURAL RESOURCES AND TRANSPORTATION ARE AVAILABLE FOR
07:21:32 ANY QUESTIONS.
07:21:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
07:21:34 GENTLEMAN?
07:21:35 ALL RIGHT.
07:21:37 HEARING NONE, CONTINUE ON.
07:21:40 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ON.
07:21:41 IS IT MR. COEN OR MR. MECHANIK?
07:21:49 >> MR. MECHANIK.
07:21:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.
07:21:55 >>DAVID MECHANIK: SORRY.
07:21:57 MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
07:22:02 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, THE EMBASSY SUITES.
07:22:07 I HAVE WITH ME RANDY COEN, PLANNING CONSULTANT, AND WE
07:22:14 WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
07:22:15 RYAN DID A VERY THOROUGH REPORT.
07:22:18 I WOULD JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO
07:22:22 MAKE ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STAFF.
07:22:29 AS RYAN INDICATED, WE ARE SIMPLY, THESE ARE RELATIVELY
07:22:32 SMALL CHANGES.
07:22:35 WE ARE ADDING 3,000 SQUARE FEET OF MEETING SPACE ON THE
07:22:40 SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, AND WE ARE CONVERTING SOME
07:22:45 OF THE SUITE ROOMS TO TRADITIONAL HOTEL ROOMS.
07:22:51 AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE EXTERNAL STRUCTURE
07:22:58 WHATSOEVER.
07:22:59 AT THIS POINT, I'D JUST LIKE TO DISCUSS THE WAIVERS, AND
07:23:04 I WOULD POINT OUT TO YOU THERE ARE TEN DEPARTMENTS THAT
07:23:11 REVIEW THE APPLICATION, NINE OF WHOM DETERMINED THAT THE
07:23:14 APPLICATION WAS CONSISTENT.
07:23:17 THE ONLY AREA OF INCONSISTENCY WAS FROM THE
07:23:21 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, AND THEY ARE ALL OBJECTIONS
07:23:25 BASED UPON THE EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1985
07:23:31 AND CERTAINLY WAS PERMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY OF
07:23:35 TAMPA BACK IN 1985 AND COMPLIED WITH CODES AT THAT
07:23:41 PARTICULAR TIME.
07:23:42 THAT ESSENTIALLY EXPLAINS THE MAJORITY OF THE REQUESTED
07:23:51 WAIVERS.
07:23:52 WAIVER NUMBER ONE, THREE, FOUR, SIX, AND SEVEN ALL ARE
07:24:01 DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT
07:24:03 AGAIN WAS BUILT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CODE.
07:24:07 WE CAN'T CHANGE THE PARKING BUILDING OR THE HOTEL
07:24:12 STRUCTURE ITSELF.
07:24:14 AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ARE JUST MAKING CHANGES TO THE INTERNAL
07:24:18 ASPECTS OF THE HOTEL.
07:24:22 TWO OF THE WAIVERS RELATE TO PARKING.
07:24:25 WE ARE ASKING FOR, I THINK, A MODEST REDUCTION IN THE
07:24:30 PARKING REQUIREMENT AS WELL AS A REDUCTION -- OR, I'M
07:24:36 SORRY, AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF COMPACT SPACES.
07:24:40 AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAIVER IS TO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER
07:24:48 OF -- MINIMIZE THE REDUCTION OF PARKING UNDER THE WAIVER
07:24:55 NUMBER 2.
07:25:00 THE HOTEL PARKING, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NATIONAL STUDIES
07:25:04 THAT INDICATE THAT PARKING IN HOTELS, THE DEMAND FOR
07:25:10 PARKING HAS GONE DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY DUE TO THE ADVENT OF
07:25:14 UBER AND LYFT AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY HOTEL
07:25:18 GUESTS NOW ARE USING VALET AND SO FORTH.
07:25:25 I HAVE RANDY COEN HERE.
07:25:29 IF COUNCIL DESIRES, WE CAN GO THROUGH A DISCUSSION OF THE
07:25:33 REDUCED PARKING DEMAND.
07:25:34 IF NOT, WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
07:25:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:25:41 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
07:25:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION AS A COMMENT.
07:25:53 GOOD TO SEE YOU, MR. COEN.
07:25:56 IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
07:25:59 I WAS READING THROUGH SOME OF YOUR DOCUMENTATION, AND I
07:26:05 THINK ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES ON THIS PARKING THING IS I
07:26:10 THINK YOU MAKE A POINT, AND I THINK IT'S A POINT THAT'S
07:26:14 WELL TAKEN, THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS TO REVISIT OUR
07:26:17 PARKING CODE.
07:26:18 I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S SCHEDULED.
07:26:20 I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, NOT IN TERMS OF -- WELL, WE
07:26:25 TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY IN TERMS OF DOWNTOWN PARKING BUT
07:26:28 NOT IN TERMS OF OUR ZONING CODE.
07:26:29 BUT MR. COEN AND HIS DOCUMENTATION POINTS OUT TO THE FACT
07:26:35 THAT WITH UBER AND LYFT AND SIMILAR SERVICES PEOPLE ARE
07:26:38 NOT NECESSARILY RENTING CARS AND NOT NECESSARILY PARKING
07:26:41 IN THE HOTEL PARKING LOTS.
07:26:44 AM I GET YOUR DRIFT, MR. COEN?
07:26:47 >> YES, SIR.
07:26:47 PERFECTLY.
07:26:48 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE LOOKING AT PROPOSING SOME
07:26:51 PARKING REDUCTIONS IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY, WHICH WE'RE
07:26:55 WORKING ON SOME AMENDMENTS FOR THAT, WHICH WE'LL BRING TO
07:26:57 THE CITY AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
07:27:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HOPED YOU HELP THE CITY STAFF WITH
07:27:04 OUR ENTIRE CHAPTER 27 CODE IN REGARD TO PARKING AS WELL,
07:27:09 BECAUSE I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
07:27:15 >> THANK YOU, WILL DO.
07:27:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:27:17 ANYTHING ELSE?
07:27:17 ALL RIGHT.
07:27:19 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
07:27:22 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
07:27:24 ITEM NUMBER 18, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC, ANY
07:27:27 PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
07:27:32 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:27:35 >> AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NO
07:27:37 ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:27:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:27:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE THE ITEM.
07:27:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
07:27:43 MIRANDA.
07:27:43 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:27:44 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:27:48 ANY OBJECTION ON CLOSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
07:27:53 ALL RIGHT.
07:27:53 HEARING NO ONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT OBJECTION,
07:27:57 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
07:27:58 ITEM NUMBER 18, WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
07:28:02 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER
07:28:05 18.
07:28:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-35, MOVE THE
07:28:11 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
07:28:13 CONSIDERATION.
07:28:14 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
07:28:17 555 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
07:28:20 FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
07:28:23 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD (PLANNED
07:28:26 DEVELOPMENT, HOTEL OR MOTEL) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
07:28:30 HOTEL OR MOTEL); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:28:32 THE PETITIONER HAS COMPLIED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:28:38 AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS SHOWN ON THE SITE
07:28:41 PROMOTES OR ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE
07:28:43 WITH THE LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF
07:28:45 THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:28:47 THE PURPOSE IS SUFFICIENT AND SUBSTANTIAL.
07:28:53 USE OF THE LAND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
07:28:57 AS FAR AS THE WAIVERS CONCERNED SECTION 27-1394, THE
07:29:01 DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND
07:29:03 THEREFORE IN NEED OF WAIVERS, A AND B, THE WAIVERS
07:29:07 REQUESTED WILL SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH OR INJURE --
07:29:11 WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS
07:29:15 WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
07:29:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:29:20 A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
07:29:24 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
07:29:27 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
07:29:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:29:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:29:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:29:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:29:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:29:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:29:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:29:41 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:29:44 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
07:29:46 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
07:29:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:29:49 WE ARE NOW AT ALMOST 7:30, AND NUMBER 19 IS NEXT, WHICH
07:29:57 WILL BE LONG.
07:29:59 WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:30:01 LET'S TAKE A RECESS FOR 15 MINUTES, AND WE WILL BEGIN
07:30:06 AGAIN AT 7:45.
07:30:07 PLEASE DO NOT LOG OUT.
07:30:09 PLEASE DO NOT DO ANYTHING OF THE SORT.
07:30:12 JUST MUTE YOURSELVES, AND WE WILL RECONNECT HERE AT 7:45.
07:30:16 [RECESS]
07:48:14 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
07:48:15 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
07:48:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
07:48:20 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
07:48:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
07:48:26 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
07:48:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM HERE.
07:48:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
07:48:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
07:48:32 ALL RIGHT.
07:48:34 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:48:35 ITEM NUMBER 19, IF YOU ARE TO SPEAK OR GOING TO SPEAK,
07:48:40 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN.
07:48:50 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE
07:48:54 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:48:56 THANK YOU.
07:48:58 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR
07:49:01 THIS ITEM.
07:49:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND DO WE HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY PUBLIC
07:49:04 COMMENT?
07:49:06 >>THE CLERK: YES, WE DO.
07:49:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:49:09 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
07:49:12 >> YES, WE DO.
07:49:13 WE HAVE ONE PERSON.
07:49:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD THEN LIKE TO BEGIN?
07:49:18 MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:49:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 19 IS FILE REZ 20-38 FOR THE
07:49:24 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3105 BAY OAKS COURT.
07:49:28 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS REZONING FROM RM 35 TO PD.
07:49:33 THAT'S PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
07:49:35 AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
07:49:37 I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR
07:49:39 THEIR REPORT.
07:49:39 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME AFTERWARDS.
07:49:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:49:42 MS. MALONE.
07:49:45 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
07:49:47 COMMISSION.
07:49:47 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
07:49:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT, MR.
07:49:53 CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO I
07:49:55 SEE PRESENT, I DON'T SEE COUNCILMAN VIERA OR COUNCILMAN
07:50:00 DINGFELDER.
07:50:02 IS THAT CORRECT?
07:50:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M HERE.
07:50:09 I'VE BEEN HERE ALL ALONG.
07:50:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU'RE NOT ON SCREEN, COUNCILMAN, WE
07:50:14 CAN'T KNOW THAT.
07:50:15 SO, PLEASE, COUNCILMAN, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE HEARING,
07:50:18 PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ON THE SCREEN SO IT DOESN'T
07:50:20 BECOME AN ISSUE, IF IT SHOULD BECOME AN ISSUE.
07:50:23 THANK YOU.
07:50:24 AGAIN, I DON'T SEE COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:50:26 OKAY, THANK YOU.
07:50:27 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:50:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:50:29 GO AHEAD.
07:50:29 JENNIFER MALONE.
07:50:30 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
07:50:33 STAFF.
07:50:33 I'LL PRESENT ON ITEM REZ 20-38.
07:50:37 LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:50:39 A PORTION OF THE SITE IS LOCATED COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
07:50:42 AREA.
07:50:44 CLOSEST PARK IS FRED BALL PARK, ALSO WITHIN A LEVEL A AND
07:50:48 B EVACUATION ZONE.
07:50:50 IT IS LOCATED ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:50:54 WE HAVE MacDILL AVENUE, SELMON EXPRESSWAY BORDERS THE
07:50:59 SUBJECT SITE AS WELL.
07:51:00 PARCELS OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE.
07:51:03 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
07:51:06 RESIDENTIAL 50.
07:51:07 THAT IS A VERY INTENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WE
07:51:12 DO SEE ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:51:14 TO THE SOUTH IN DARKER COLOR IS HIGHER CATEGORY.
07:51:17 THAT IS RESIDENTIAL 83.
07:51:19 SO THAT WOULD CONSIDER MORE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO THE
07:51:23 SOUTH IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
07:51:25 WE ALSO HAVE THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 TO THE NORTH IN
07:51:28 PINK.
07:51:28 THAT ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
07:51:31 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 IN THE RED ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL
07:51:34 USES AS WELL, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES.
07:51:37 SO THE SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY VERY INTENSIVE
07:51:40 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
07:51:42 RESIDENTIAL 50 IS -- FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION BY THE
07:51:47 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:51:48 THIS AREA HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
07:51:54 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:51:56 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:51:57 I WOULD NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 180 UNITS,
07:52:02 MAXIMUM WITH THE DENSITY ON THE SUBJECT SITE COULD GO UP
07:52:06 TO ABOUT 232.
07:52:09 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT.
07:52:10 SO THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE FULL DENSITY OF THE
07:52:13 RESIDENTIAL 50 LAND USE CATEGORY.
07:52:14 AS I SAID, ALLOW FOR HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN THE
07:52:21 SURROUNDING AREA.
07:52:22 THERE IS OPEN SPACE PROVIDED.
07:52:24 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:52:26 PLAN.
07:52:27 WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE DESIGN ASPECT AND THE PEDESTRIAN
07:52:30 CONNECTIVITY WAS CONSISTENT IN FURTHERING POLICIES OF THE
07:52:34 PLAN.
07:52:34 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:52:36 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:52:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
07:52:38 MR. MANASSE.
07:52:40 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
07:52:41 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
07:52:43 REZ TITLE BLOCK.
07:52:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE DO, SIR.
07:52:53 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
07:52:57 FILE REZ 20-38.
07:52:59 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 3105
07:53:03 BAY OAKS COURT FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 35, RM-35 TO
07:53:07 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY
07:53:09 RESIDENTIAL USES.
07:53:10 THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST BAY TO
07:53:14 BAY BOULEVARD, WEST OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, EAST OF THE
07:53:17 SELMON EXPRESSWAY ALONG WEST SANTIAGO STREET.
07:53:21 THE SITE CONTAINS AN EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX WHICH
07:53:24 WILL BE DEMOLISHED TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL
07:53:26 DEVELOPMENT.
07:53:27 THE SITE IS ONE PARCEL, WHICH CONTAINS AREAS TO THE NORTH
07:53:29 AND SOUTH OF WEST SANTIAGO STREET.
07:53:32 THE NORTHERN PARCEL CONTAINS 55,059 SQUARE FEET.
07:53:38 AND THE SOUTHERN PARCEL CONTAINS 147,273 SQUARE FEET FOR
07:53:42 A TOTAL PROJECT AREA OF 4.65 ACRES.
07:53:45 THE PROJECT PROPOSES TWO 27-STORY BUILDINGS CONTAINING A
07:53:50 TOTAL OF 180 UNITS WITH A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 328
07:53:54 FEET.
07:53:54 THAT HEIGHT IS SUBJECT TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AVIATION
07:53:56 AUTHORITY AND FEDERAL AVIATION AUTHORITY APPROVAL.
07:53:59 THE PROJECT PROPOSES VEHICULAR ACCESS ON WEST SANTIAGO
07:54:03 STREET WITH SURFACE AND GARAGE PARKING PROVIDED.
07:54:06 THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 367 SPACES WITH FIVE LOADING
07:54:10 BERTHS AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROVIDING A TOTAL OF 393
07:54:15 SPACES WITH FOUR LOADING BERTHS.
07:54:17 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS ARE ON THE NORTH PARCEL,
07:54:21 25 FEET ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH, AND THAT WOULD BE ON WEST
07:54:24 BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AND SANTIAGO STREET, AND SEVEN FEET
07:54:28 ON THE WEST AND THE EAST.
07:54:29 ON THE SOUTH PARCEL, SEVEN FEET ON THE NORTH, ON SANTIAGO
07:54:33 STREET AND SOUTH AND 25 ON THE WEST ABUTTING THE
07:54:37 CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY AND THEN EAST ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:54:40 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
07:54:43 USES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH IN THE RM-35 AND PD ZONING
07:54:48 DISTRICTS.
07:54:48 COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES TO THE EAST
07:54:51 AND THE RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, RO-1, PD AND RM-35 ZONING
07:54:56 DISTRICTS AND THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY TO THE WEST.
07:54:57 THE SLIDE BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS -- ARE
07:55:02 THE PROPOSED WAIVERS.
07:55:03 THEY ARE REQUESTING FIVE WAIVERS FROM THE CODE.
07:55:07 THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU SHOWS THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:55:10 AND JENNIFER DID A GOOD JOB SHOWING YOU ON HER AERIAL.
07:55:13 I'LL GO OVER IT AGAIN.
07:55:14 BAY TO BAY IS TO THE NORTH.
07:55:15 THE SUBJECT SITE IS CROSS-HATCHED IN THE GREEN.
07:55:19 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SANTIAGO STREET GOES THROUGH WITH THE
07:55:21 SELMON EXPRESSWAY AND MacDILL WILL RUN HERE NORTH AND
07:55:24 SOUTH, MAINLY HITTING THIS PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE NEAR
07:55:27 SANTIAGO.
07:55:28 OUR AERIAL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOWS THE OUTLINED
07:55:33 PROPERTY HATCHED IN RED.
07:55:34 AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS MORE OF THAT L SHAPE KIND OF
07:55:37 CANTERED.
07:55:38 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS LOCAL OR NATIONAL WITH A
07:55:42 THOUSAND--- WITHIN A THOUSAND-FOOT BUFFER OF THE
07:55:44 PROPERTY.
07:55:45 ONE OF THE SHEETS OF THE SITE PLAN I INCLUDED ON THE
07:55:48 SLIDES, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, PLEASE LET ME
07:55:51 KNOW.
07:55:52 IT SHOWS THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH AND SANTIAGO STREET IN
07:55:55 THE CENTER WITH THE SOUTH PORTION BEING THE OTHER TOWER,
07:55:58 AND THEN THE ATTACHED UNIT, AS YOU CAN SEE THEM OUTLINED
07:56:01 HERE JUST SOUTH OF SANTIAGO STREET AND THEN THREE MORE
07:56:04 OVER HERE ON THIS SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
07:56:06 THERE IS ACCESS OVER HERE OFF OF BAYSHORE, AND THEN AS
07:56:11 WELL AS MacDILL.
07:56:12 THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED SHOW THE EAST ON THE LEFT AND THE
07:56:17 WEST ON THE RIGHT.
07:56:20 AND THEN ON THE LEFT SIDE, IT WILL SHOW THE NORTH AND
07:56:23 THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT WILL SHOW THE SOUTH.
07:56:26 AND THEN THE PICTURES PROVIDED ARE JUST SHOWING YOU SOME
07:56:29 OF THE SURROUNDING AREA OTHER THAN JUST THE AERIAL.
07:56:32 NORTH, THERE'S SOME -- YOU CAN SEE SOME MULTILEVEL
07:56:35 STRUCTURES AS WELL AS THE EXPRESSWAY ENTRANCE HERE, AND
07:56:38 THEN THE UNDERPASS AND EXPRESSWAY.
07:56:40 THIS IS WEST, LOOKING DOWN BAY TO BAY.
07:56:44 AND THEN EAST, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS PART OF THE
07:56:47 SUBJECT PARCEL AND GOING TOWARDS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD HERE.
07:56:50 THIS IS THE WEST ACCESS OFF OF MacDILL UNDERNEATH THE
07:56:54 OVERPASS.
07:56:54 AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON MacDILL AT THIS
07:56:57 OVERPASS, JUST GIVING YOU ANOTHER ANGLE OF THAT STREET.
07:57:00 THE WEST PROPERTY BOUNDARY, MORE OR LESS, WITH THE
07:57:03 EXPRESSWAY ABUTTING THAT WEST SIDE AND THEN ON THE RIGHT
07:57:06 PHOTO, IT SHOWS THE SANTIAGO STREET GOING TOWARDS
07:57:10 BAYSHORE.
07:57:10 THEN AGAIN, THIS IS EAST ON SANTIAGO.
07:57:14 IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO SHOW YOU THE BAYSHORE ACCESS.
07:57:17 AND THEN THIS IS WEST LOOKING BACK IN THAT INTERNAL
07:57:20 STREET.
07:57:20 NORTH ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, AND THEN SOUTH ON BAYSHORE
07:57:24 BOULEVARD.
07:57:27 IN REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
07:57:30 COMPLIANCE STAFF, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
07:57:32 FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
07:57:33 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
07:57:35 PLEASE REFERENCE FINDINGS BY TRANSPORTATION RELATED TO
07:57:37 THE REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED LOADING BERTH AREAS AND
07:57:40 REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS.
07:57:43 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
07:57:45 APPLICATION, AND THE WAIVERS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT
07:57:49 ON PAGE 1, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN
07:57:52 FIRST AND SECOND READING AND THEY ARE PROVIDED ON THE
07:57:54 REVISION SHEET ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT.
07:57:56 SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES,
07:57:59 TRANSPORTATION OR PLANNING STAFF, WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR
07:58:01 YOUR QUESTIONS.
07:58:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
07:58:03 GENTLEMAN?
07:58:04 ALL RIGHT.
07:58:08 HEARING NONE, WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS.
07:58:14 I SEE A ROOMFUL.
07:58:22 >>TRUETT GARDNER: GOOD EVENING.
07:58:23 TRUETT GARDNER.
07:58:25 JUST A QUICK PROCEDURAL ISSUE, I SENT AN E-MAIL EARLIER
07:58:27 TO THE CLERK, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
07:58:30 ONE, WE HAD REQUESTED FIVE ADDITIONAL MINUTES OF TIME TO
07:58:34 PRESENT.
07:58:35 WE'RE HOPING TO NOT NEED THAT.
07:58:37 WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT
07:58:40 LOCATIONS AS WELL.
07:58:41 SO THAT'S ONE REQUEST.
07:58:43 AND THEN A GENTLEMAN, GEORGE VAKA IS SPEAKING ON BEHALF
07:58:48 OF SOME PEOPLE OBJECTING TO THIS.
07:58:49 HE'S REQUESTED 15 MINUTES, WHICH WE ARE FINE WITH.
07:58:54 WE'VE SPOKEN WITH HIM AND TOLD HIM THAT.
07:58:56 BUT IN RETURN, WE'D LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL FIVE
07:59:00 MINUTES OF REBUTTAL TIME.
07:59:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:59:03 MR. SHELBY?
07:59:05 YOU'RE MUTED.
07:59:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:59:07 MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE MR. VAKA HAS -- DID MAKE THAT
07:59:16 REQUEST, AND I WAS WONDERING IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO THE
07:59:20 HOUSE KEEPING NOW SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE BECAUSE I
07:59:24 BELIEVE THIS BEING A VIRTUAL HEARING, WE DON'T HAVE
07:59:27 SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS AND WE'RE OPERATING UNDER RULE 6B
07:59:34 UNDER YOUR COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE.
07:59:37 SO I'D LIKE TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD JUST SO THAT YOU
07:59:40 ARE AWARE OF THAT AND YOU TAKE ACTION ACCORDINGLY.
07:59:43 SO IF I UNDERSTAND THE PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE, FIVE
07:59:47 ADDITIONAL MINUTES ON THEIR CASE IN CHIEF, AND DEPENDING
07:59:52 ON WHAT IS GRANTED TO MR. VAKA, FIVE ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
07:59:56 COUNCIL, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ASK THE CLERK TO BRING
08:00:00 FORTH MR. VAKA AND SWEAR HIM IN SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT
08:00:03 AND HAVE THAT SQUARED AWAY BEFORE THE HEARING COMMENCES
08:00:05 WITH THE PETITIONER AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
08:00:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, CLERK, IF YOU COULD PLEASE
08:00:11 DO THAT.
08:00:21 >> GOOD EVENING.
08:00:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, SIR.
08:00:27 THEY ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN NOW, MR. VAKA.
08:00:36 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE
08:00:39 TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:00:41 >> I DO.
08:00:44 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
08:00:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:00:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR, YES.
08:00:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SENT A LETTER INTO THE CHAIRMAN
08:00:50 REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TIME, IS THAT CORRECT?
08:00:57 >> YES, SIR, ALSO TO ADVISE THAT I BELIEVE ALMOST ALL OF
08:01:00 THE RESIDENTS OF THE STOVALL HAVE GIVEN ME AUTHORITY, AS
08:01:04 WELL AS DR. GROSS WHO IS ON THIS CALL, TO REPRESENT THEIR
08:01:08 INTERESTS IN TERMS OF PUTTING FORTH THE POSITIONS OF THE
08:01:11 RESIDENTS OF THE STOVALL, WHICH IS THE CONDOMINIUM
08:01:15 DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON
08:01:20 BAYSHORE.
08:01:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST OF COUNCIL THEN,
08:01:26 SIR?
08:01:26 >> OUR REQUEST IS -- IT WAS GOING TO BE EQUAL TIME,
08:01:29 BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE 15 MINUTES.
08:01:32 BUT 15 MINUTES OF TIME FOR US TO REPRESENT AND ARTICULATE
08:01:38 THE VIEWS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE STOVALL, THEIR OBJECTIONS
08:01:41 TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AT CURRENT, AND TO LET COUNCIL KNOW
08:01:48 WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE PRIMARILY WITH THE SIDE SETBACK.
08:01:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE MERITS OF IT,
08:01:56 THE QUESTION, SIR, NOW, FROM YOUR LETTER, YOU SAID THE 15
08:02:00 MINUTES WOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN YOU AND ANOTHER SPEAKER;
08:02:03 IS THAT CORRECT?
08:02:04 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
08:02:04 THAT WOULD BE DR. STEVEN GROSS.
08:02:06 A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
08:02:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION, I'LL
08:02:12 GIVE YOU A MOTION.
08:02:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO BE ASKING FOR A MOTION IN A
08:02:15 MINUTE.
08:02:16 ONE THING I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF
08:02:18 THIS HEARING IS WHAT EFFECT DOES YOUR PRESENTATION HAVE
08:02:22 ON -- HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PRESENTLY
08:02:25 WHO ARE SIGNED IN HAD, MADAM CLERK?
08:02:29 >>THE CLERK: I CANNOT GIVE YOU A DEFINITE NUMBER OF WHO
08:02:31 SIGNED IN, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY AT LEAST 50 MEMBERS
08:02:36 SIGNED IN AND 76 IN TOTAL REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
08:02:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SUSPECT WHAT YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO IS
08:02:44 TO REPRESENT THAT THOSE SPEAKERS WHO CHOOSE NOT TO SPEAK
08:02:51 AS A RESULT OF YOU HAVING THIS TIME WILL DROP OFF AND LOG
08:02:55 OUT AND WATCH THROUGH LET'S SAY TELEVISION OR INTERNET SO
08:03:00 THAT THE CLERK DOESN'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE LINED UP AS
08:03:02 SPEAKERS, IS THAT CORRECT?
08:03:04 >> THAT IS WHAT I ASKED THOSE PEOPLE TO DO ONCE I WAS
08:03:07 RECOGNIZED AS AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.
08:03:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, CAN I INTERRUPT?
08:03:14 IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A PRESUMPTION THAT ALL 50 ARE ONE
08:03:19 SIDE OR THE OTHER.
08:03:20 I'VE SEEN A LOT OF LETTERS IN FAVOR.
08:03:21 I'VE SEEN A LOT OF LETTERS OPPOSED.
08:03:23 MY GUESS IS SOME OF THE SPEAKERS ARE IN FAVOR OF THE
08:03:25 APPLICATION.
08:03:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT MAY VERY WELL BE TRUE.
08:03:29 BUT I JUST WANTED IT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD THAT --
08:03:33 BY THE WAY, THAT WAS THE LETTER -- THAT WAS THE INTENT
08:03:36 RAISED IN MR. VAKA'S LETTER.
08:03:39 CERTAINLY NOT A CONDITION.
08:03:40 LET ME READ, BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION, COUNCIL, I WANT TO
08:03:43 READ THE RULE SO THAT IT'S CLEAR TO YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO
08:03:47 DO.
08:03:48 6B STATES THAT REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL TIME MAY ONLY BE
08:03:52 GRANTED IF THE PARTICIPANT MAKING THE REQUEST, IN THIS
08:03:55 CASE IT'S TWO PEOPLE, THE PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE AND
08:04:01 THE NEIGHBORS OF THE STOVALL, THE ASSOCIATION, REQUEST
08:04:05 FOR ADDITIONAL TIME ONLY BE GRANTED IF THE PARTICIPANT
08:04:08 MAKING THE REQUEST ESTABLISHES TO THE SATISFACTION OF
08:04:10 COUNCIL THAT ADDITIONAL TIME IS NECESSARY TO AFFORD
08:04:13 PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS.
08:04:15 COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BY MAJORITY VOTE GRANT OR DENY THE
08:04:19 REQUEST AND DETERMINE THE ADDITIONAL TIME NECESSARY, IF
08:04:22 ANY.
08:04:23 IN THE EVENT THAT A PARTICIPANT IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL
08:04:29 HEARING IS GIVEN ADDITIONAL TIME TO MAKE A PRESENTATION,
08:04:31 THE PETITIONER MAY REQUEST ADDITIONAL TIME FOR PURPOSES
08:04:34 OF REBUTTAL AS NECESSARY TO AFFORD PROCEDURAL DUE
08:04:37 PROCESS, WHICH I BELIEVE MR. GARDNER PRESENTED A LETTER
08:04:43 TO THE CLERK AND TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING HIS POSITION.
08:04:46 THAT BEING THE CASE, A MOTION IS IN ORDER WITH REGARD TO
08:04:53 THE PETITIONER.
08:04:54 IF THE COUNCIL WISHES, A MOTION IS IN ORDER WITH REGARD
08:04:56 TO MR. VAKA, AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
08:04:58 HEARING KNOWING IN ADVANCE THE ROAD MAP GOING FORWARD.
08:05:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A MOTION TO GRANT THE
08:05:10 PETITIONER'S REQUEST?
08:05:12 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:05:13 YOU'RE MUTED, SIR.
08:05:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD ASK, I KNOW MR. VAKA IS
08:05:21 REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER, BUT IS HE REPRESENTING ALL
08:05:25 70 SOME PETITIONERS THAT HAVE SIGNED IN OR HE'S GOING TO
08:05:28 REPRESENT 20 AND 40 THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK?
08:05:31 I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CLARIFIED IN ADVANCE.
08:05:33 I DON'T KNOW IF HE REPRESENTS ALL OF THEM OR MOST OF
08:05:36 THEM.
08:05:37 WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT, IN MY BOOK, KNOWN AHEAD OF TIME.
08:05:42 >> MAY I RESPOND?
08:05:45 >> GO AHEAD.
08:05:46 >> I LOOKED AT THE LIST.
08:05:47 I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE ALL OF THE PEOPLE'S WHOSE NAMES ARE ON
08:05:51 THE LIST.
08:05:51 TO THE EXTENT THAT THE PEOPLE IDENTIFIED ON THE LIST ARE
08:05:54 FROM THE STOVALL, I BELIEVE I HAVE IF NOT UNANIMOUS,
08:06:00 CERTAINLY NEAR UNANIMOUS AUTHORITY ON BEHALF OF ALL OF
08:06:03 THE RESIDENTS TO REPRESENT THEIR INTEREST ALONG WITH DR.
08:06:08 GROSS TONIGHT.
08:06:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL TAKE THAT AT YOUR WORD.
08:06:12 I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
08:06:13 HOWEVER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE CAN SAY AFTER
08:06:16 MR. VAKA AND THE OTHER GENTLEMAN SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF
08:06:21 THAT GREAT COMMUNITY THERE, THAT OTHERS DON'T COME UP AND
08:06:24 SAY THERE ARE 40 OR 50 OF US THAT ARE NOT FOLLOWING THIS.
08:06:27 I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME FIRST, IF POSSIBLE.
08:06:31 >> I CAN ASSURE YOU FROM THE STOVALL THERE WON'T BE 50
08:06:35 PEOPLE COMING UP AND SPEAKING.
08:06:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBLEM WITH ME.
08:06:39 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:06:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GARDNER, MAY I ASK YOU, DO YOU HAVE
08:06:46 ANY OBJECTION AS TO THE WAY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD HERE
08:06:48 TONIGHT?
08:06:49 >>TRUETT GARDNER: NO, WE'RE FINE.
08:06:51 CLARIFY, WE ASK FOR FIVE ADDITIONAL MINUTES IN OUR CASE
08:06:54 IN CHIEF JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THAT WE NEED TO COVER, AND
08:06:58 WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH MR. VAKA AND RECEIVED HIS LETTER.
08:07:01 WE ARE FINE WITH COUNCIL GRANTING THE 15 MINUTES TO HIM,
08:07:05 BUT IN RETURN, WE JUST ASK FOR FIVE MINUTES OF REBUTTAL.
08:07:09 TO CLARIFY, OF THE 76 MENTIONED, I BELIEVE MANY OF THOSE
08:07:13 ARE IN SUPPORT.
08:07:16 TO MR. MIRANDA, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT HELPS YOU, BUT
08:07:19 THERE ARE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT FROM THE STOVALL, BUT OUR
08:07:23 UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE WILL DROP OFF AND THAT LIST WILL
08:07:25 BE REDUCED.
08:07:28 AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHERS AS WELL THAT ARE IN
08:07:30 OPPOSITION, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT DROP OFF WILL
08:07:33 BE STOVALL RESIDENTS.
08:07:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, SIR.
08:07:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OF COURSE, I SHOULD POINT OUT, IF
08:07:40 SOMEBODY NOT RELATED TO THE ASSOCIATION OR RELATED TO MR.
08:07:41 VAKA AND THEY WANT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, THEY SHOULDN'T
08:07:45 BE LIMITED BY THIS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PETITIONER AND
08:07:52 THE ASSOCIATION ATTORNEY.
08:07:56 IF THAT'S CLEAR, WHY DON'T WE JUST BEGIN WITH THE MOTION
08:07:59 TO GRANT THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED BY MR. GARDNER THE
08:08:05 TIME THAT HE HAS SUGGESTED FOR HIS CASE IN CHIEF AND FOR
08:08:09 THE REBUTTAL.
08:08:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WAS THAT?
08:08:14 WHO MADE THE MOTION?
08:08:17 WHO MADE THE MOTION?
08:08:21 ANYBODY?
08:08:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION EARLY ON
08:08:24 TO GIVE THEM THEIR 15 MINUTES.
08:08:26 WE JUST TOOK 15 MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT IT.
08:08:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, PLEASE, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS
08:08:31 RECORD AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE.
08:08:33 AND WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS TO NOT TAKE ANY
08:08:36 SHORTCUTS AND NOT CLIP ANY CORNERS, AND LET'S FOLLOW THE
08:08:41 PROCEDURES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:08:43 SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE BE PATIENT.
08:08:45 BECAUSE IF WE DO IT RIGHT, I LIKE TO SAY THAT AN OUNCE OF
08:08:50 PROCEDURE IS WORTH A POUND OF LITIGATION.
08:08:52 IF WE CAN AVOID THAT, LET'S PLEASE DO SO.
08:08:55 IS THERE A MOTION BY COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO THE
08:08:58 APPLICANT?
08:09:02 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED, VIERA.
08:09:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:09:05 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
08:09:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, MIRANDA.
08:09:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:09:08 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
08:09:09 ANY OBJECTION?
08:09:11 HEARING NONE, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS
08:09:14 CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.
08:09:17 NOW FOR THE SECOND MOTION.
08:09:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE ASSOCIATION
08:09:21 REPRESENTED AND THE STOVALL REPRESENTED BY MR. VAKA.
08:09:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
08:09:28 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED, VIERA.
08:09:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:09:31 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
08:09:33 DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION?
08:09:35 ANY OBJECTION?
08:09:35 HEARING NONE, HEARING NO OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT,
08:09:39 THE MOTION PASSES.
08:09:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:09:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MANISCALCO, I HAVE ONE REQUEST, AND
08:09:46 THAT IS IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS A SEAMLESS HEARING, HAVING
08:09:52 THAT MANY PEOPLE LINED UP TO SPEAK FOR ANY ONE HEARING IS
08:09:56 AN AMAZING BURDEN FOR THE CLERK UNDER THIS PLATFORM.
08:10:00 AS MR. VAKA REPRESENTED, THERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL
08:10:03 CHOOSE NOW WHO ARE LOGGED IN OR WHO ARE PLANNING TO PHONE
08:10:07 IN AND REGISTER THAT IF THEY ARE REGISTERED, IF THEY NO
08:10:11 LONGER HAVE THE NEED TO TALK, MY SUGGESTION AND MY
08:10:14 REQUEST, IN SPEAKING WITH THE CLERK IS THAT THOSE PEOPLE,
08:10:18 AS I STATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, HAVE THE
08:10:20 OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THIS EITHER ON TELEVISION, ON CABLE
08:10:22 TV, OR ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPAGOV.NET LIVESTREAM.
08:10:26 THE REQUEST NOW, MR. VAKA, TO THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE TO
08:10:31 LOG OUT OF GO TO WEBINAR SO THEY CAN WATCH THE MEETING
08:10:37 WITHOUT NEEDING BE REGISTERED AS A PARTICIPANT.
08:10:40 >> THAT WAS THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE OF THE RESIDENTS
08:10:42 THIS AFTERNOON CONTINGENT UPON RECOGNITION THAT THEY
08:10:48 WOULD HAVE ME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
08:10:50 I ASSUME THEY ARE NOW LOGGING OFF AND WILL JOIN US BACK
08:10:54 AGAIN EITHER THE TELEVISION OR THE INTERNET.
08:10:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:10:58 MR. CHAIRMAN, I TURN THE MEETING BACK TO YOU.
08:11:00 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, COUNCIL.
08:11:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:11:03 WE WILL BEGIN NOW WITH MR. GARDNER, SIR.
08:11:08 GO AHEAD.
08:11:08 >>TRUETT GARDNER: GREAT.
08:11:09 THANK YOU.
08:11:09 TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
08:11:12 I'M BOTH HONORED AND HUMBLED TO APPEAR TONIGHT TO PRESENT
08:11:15 RELATED TO THE PROJECT, WHICH IF APPROVED WILL TRULY BE
08:11:18 AN ICON PROJECT FOR TAMPA.
08:11:21 FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TAMPA'S HISTORY, WE HAVE AN
08:11:23 INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED DEVELOPER WORKING WITH AN
08:11:25 INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED ARCHITECT ON A PROJECT THAT WILL
08:11:28 CARRY THE RITZ-CARLTON NAME WHICH IS A BRAND KNOWN
08:11:31 WORLDWIDE FOR THE HIGHEST QUALITY IN DESIGN AND SERVICE.
08:11:34 I'D LIKE TO START BY INTRODUCING OUR TEAM.
08:11:36 WITH ME TONIGHT FROM RELATED IS MIKE HAMMON AND NAZ WUHA.
08:11:44 MY FELLOW LAW PARTNER, TYLER HUDSON, AND OUR PLANNER
08:11:45 BRITTNEY BARNETT.
08:11:47 WE ALSO HAVE OUR EXPERTS, WITH US IS RICKY PETERIKA, WHO
08:11:50 IS OUR PROJECT ARBORIST.
08:11:52 VIRTUALLY, WE HAVE ARTIE CINTRON AND MATT FEMAL, WHO ARE
08:11:57 CIVIL ENGINEERS WITH KIMLEY-HORN.
08:11:59 STEVE HENRY IS ALSO VIRTUAL.
08:12:01 HE IS OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
08:12:04 WITH THE FIRM OF ARQUITECTONICA, WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTS
08:12:07 BERNARDO FORT-BRESCIA WHO IS IN MIAMI, AND I BELIEVE WE
08:12:09 ARE SEEING HIM VIRTUALLY.
08:12:11 WITH US TONIGHT HERE IS PATRICK GIANNINI.
08:12:15 WE SUBMITTED ALL THE CVs OF OUR EXPERTS.
08:12:19 SO WITH THAT, AND SINCE THIS IS SUCH AN IMPACTFUL PROJECT
08:12:24 FOR TAMPA, I REALLY WANT THE FOCUS OF THE PRESENTATION TO
08:12:26 BE ON THE VISION AND THE DESIGN ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.
08:12:30 THAT SAID, I WANT TO COVER A FEW ISSUES RELATIVE TO OUR
08:12:33 APPLICATION.
08:12:33 IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING, WE SUBMITTED A DETAILED
08:12:36 SUPPLEMENTAL MEMO IN SUPPORT OF OUR -- FIRST, I WANT TO
08:12:40 MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCILMEN RECEIVED THAT.
08:12:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A REQUEST, COUNCIL, IS IT
08:12:53 POSSIBLE THAT MR. VAKA COULD BE TAKEN OFF SCREEN NOW,
08:12:57 BECAUSE IT IS THE PETITIONER'S PRESENTATION, AND HE CAN
08:13:00 COME BACK ON WHEN IT'S HIS TIME TO COME BACK.
08:13:02 CAN THE CLERK ARRANGE FOR THAT VIDEO-WISE?
08:13:05 THERE WE GO.
08:13:06 THANK YOU.
08:13:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. GARDNER.
08:13:09 >>TRUETT GARDNER: MY FIRST QUESTION, I JUST WANTED TO
08:13:12 MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS RECEIVED THE SUPPLEMENTAL
08:13:15 MEMO.
08:13:15 WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PROJECT SLIDES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO
08:13:20 THROUGH.
08:13:21 BUT AS FAR AS THE LEGAL CASE, A LOT IS SET FORTH IN THE
08:13:26 SUPPLEMENTAL MEMO.
08:13:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE THE KEY QUESTION IS DID THE
08:13:37 CLERK RECEIVE IT?
08:13:37 I DID NOTICE SOME LEGAL DOCUMENTS IN THE CLERK'S FILE
08:13:40 WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE QUASI-INFORMATION.
08:13:46 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE IT IN MY E-MAIL.
08:13:49 >>THE CLERK: YES, THE CLERK DID RECEIVE IT, AND IT WAS
08:13:51 DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS' E-MAILS.
08:13:56 >>TRUETT GARDNER: PERFECT.
08:13:56 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT COVERS A LOT OF THE DETAIL
08:14:00 BEHIND THIS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE
08:14:06 POINTS MADE IN GREATER DETAIL.
08:14:07 BUT IN SHORT, OUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE
08:14:09 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY THE PLANNING
08:14:11 COMMISSION STAFF AND OUR PROJECT HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE
08:14:15 CONSISTENT WITH EIGHT OUT OF TEN OF THE CITY REVIEWING
08:14:18 AGENCIES.
08:14:19 WE'VE ESTABLISHED OUR COMPLIANCE WITH THE WAIVER CRITERIA
08:14:21 FOR THE TECHNICAL INCONSISTENCIES NOTED BY THE OTHER TWO
08:14:25 REVIEWING AGENCIES.
08:14:26 WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
08:14:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE IT.
08:14:56 GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:14:57 YOU MAY BEGIN.
08:14:57 >>TRUETT GARDNER: FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT, OUR REQUEST
08:15:00 IS TO REPLACE AN APARTMENT BUILDING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED
08:15:03 IN THE 1970s, AND THAT CONTAINS 176 UNITS WITH A
08:15:09 180-UNIT TOWNHOME AND CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT.
08:15:12 A TRAFFIC STUDY ACTUALLY WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS
08:15:15 PROJECT BECAUSE OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT WILL ACTUALLY BE LESS
08:15:18 BY OVER 50%.
08:15:20 AND SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN ON THE LEFT ARE THE CURRENT
08:15:23 TRIPS GENERATED BY THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OF 1,136 DAILY
08:15:28 TRIPS PER DAY VERSUS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHICH IS AT
08:15:32 FULL BUILD-OUT OF 844 TRIPS PER DAY.
08:15:35 THEN, THE ONLY FINDINGS OF INCONSISTENCIES IN THE STAFF
08:15:40 REPORT ARE TECHNICAL IN NATURE AND ARE DUE TO OUR
08:15:42 WAIVERS.
08:15:43 IN BRIEF, OUR WAIVERS, ONE, ALLOW FOR THE BETTER DESIGN
08:15:48 OF OUR TOWNHOMES BY ALLOWING THEM TO LINE A PARKING
08:15:53 GARAGE AND TO CREATE A COURTYARD EFFECT.
08:15:55 TWO, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE ONE LOADING BERTH BUT
08:15:58 FOUR WILL STILL BE PROVIDED, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS MORE
08:16:00 THAN SUFFICIENT.
08:16:00 LASTLY, WE'RE REQUESTING TO REMOVE GREATER THAN 50% OF
08:16:03 THE TREES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ON-SITE.
08:16:08 WE BELIEVE WHAT WILL BE RELOCATED OR REPLANTED WILL BE
08:16:11 FAR SUPERIOR TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
08:16:13 WE HAVE FULL JUSTIFICATIONS IN OUR SUPPLEMENTAL PACKAGE,
08:16:15 AND WE AND OUR EXPERTS ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
08:16:19 QUESTIONS ON THE VARIANCES.
08:16:20 AT THIS TIME, TYLER HUDSON IS GOING TO BRIEFLY SPEAK TO
08:16:23 THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE PROJECT.
08:16:26 >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
08:16:29 THESE REZONING HEARINGS TYPICALLY FOCUS FOR GOOD REASON
08:16:34 ON WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GETTING.
08:16:35 AFTER ALL, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE
08:16:38 REQUESTED THIS REZONING.
08:16:39 BUT FOR A PROJECT OF THIS AMBITION AND THIS MAGNITUDE, I
08:16:44 THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT THE CITY
08:16:46 IS GETTING IN RETURN.
08:16:48 THE GAP BETWEEN THE CITY'S WANTS AND THE CITY'S FINANCIAL
08:16:56 RESOURCES, YOU HEAR ABOUT THEM EVERY DAY FROM YOUR
08:16:59 CONSTITUENTS.
08:16:59 ONE OF THE WAYS TO CLOSE THAT GAP, PARTICULARLY IN THIS
08:17:02 ECONOMICALLY UNCERTAIN TIME WITH THE PANDEMIC, IS TO
08:17:05 BOOST AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS.
08:17:07 SO LET'S TALK NUMBERS.
08:17:09 LAST YEAR, THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THIS SITE PAID A LITTLE
08:17:12 OVER $94,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES.
08:17:14 THIS YEAR, THEY'LL PAY 134,000 DUE TO THE INCREASE DUE TO
08:17:19 THE PURCHASE.
08:17:19 AT PHASE TWO, ONCE THIS PROJECT IS FULLY COMPLETED WITH
08:17:22 BOTH BUILDINGS, THE ESTIMATED ASSESSED VALUE WILL BE AT
08:17:27 MINIMUM $300 MILLION, JUST TO BE CLEAR RELATED AND THEY
08:17:31 CAN SPEAK ABOUT THIS, BELIEVE THAT SALES WILL ACTUALLY BE
08:17:34 $400 MILLION BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS.
08:17:37 AT $300 MILLION OF ASSESSED VALUATION, WHICH WE BELIEVE
08:17:40 IS VERY CONSERVATIVE, THE CITY ALONE, THIS IS JUST THE
08:17:45 CITY'S SHARE OF PROPERTY TAXES, ANNUAL BASIS RECEIVE A
08:17:48 LITTLE OVER $1.8 MILLION.
08:17:51 WHEN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED IN 2023,
08:17:54 WE EXPECT PROBABLY HALF THAT TO BE AVAILABLE ON AGAIN AN
08:17:57 ANNUAL BASIS.
08:17:58 IN YOUR SUPPLEMENTAL MEMO, WE INCLUDED A SNAPSHOT OF SOME
08:18:01 OF THE THINGS, $1.8 MILLION PER YEAR CAN GO TOWARDS.
08:18:04 BUT CERTAINLY OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEADS, I KNOW MANY OF
08:18:07 YOU PROBABLY HAVE A FEW THINGS IN MIND.
08:18:09 THIS PROJECT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY TO
08:18:12 BENEFIT FROM RELATED INVESTMENT.
08:18:17 AGAIN, WHILE WE'RE FOCUSED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT IS
08:18:20 ASKING FOR, LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE DIVIDENDS THAT
08:18:22 WILL BE PAID TO THE CITY IN RETURN.
08:18:24 TRUETT WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS
08:18:27 THAT ARE GOING TO RESONATE BEYOND THE FOOTPRINT AS WELL.
08:18:30 >>TRUETT GARDNER: TRUETT GARDNER.
08:18:34 BEFORE TURNING THINGS OVER TO MIKE AND BERNARDO, I WANT
08:18:37 TO SPEAK TO THINGS TAKEN WITH THE APPROACH WITH RESPECT
08:18:40 TO THE PROJECT.
08:18:41 FIRST, WITH REGARD TO NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, IT'S BEEN
08:18:44 ONGOING AND CONSISTENT OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS, EVEN
08:18:48 WITH THE PANDEMIC, WE HAVE HAD DOZENS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF
08:18:51 MEETINGS AND CALLS WITH NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD
08:18:53 STAKEHOLDERS.
08:18:54 FINALLY, RELATED -- EXTRA MILE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT ONE
08:18:58 THAT WILL BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
08:19:02 WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN NOW IS -- DEALS WITH
08:19:06 PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
08:19:07 THIS IS SANTIAGO STREET.
08:19:10 ON THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT FORM OF IT.
08:19:12 ON THE RIGHT SHOWS RELATED AND ARCHITECT'S VISION TO
08:19:16 REALLY MAKE IT A GRAND PEDESTRIAN BOULEVARD, WIDE
08:19:19 SIDEWALKS SHADED WITH CANOPY TREES.
08:19:21 SO THAT'S ONE ON THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY SIDE, WHICH WE
08:19:25 HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
08:19:27 NEXT, WITH RESPECT TO -- THIS IS THE GRAND ENTRY OF THE
08:19:34 PROJECT, AGAIN, LOOKING DOWN SANTIAGO TO THE LEFT OF YOUR
08:19:37 SCREEN.
08:19:38 YOU CAN SEE BEST SHORE.
08:19:40 RELATED IS COMMITTING AT LEAST $1 MILLION IN PUBLIC ART.
08:19:43 YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ENTRY IS ONE OF THE
08:19:46 PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS.
08:19:50 ON THE SITE PLAN YOU'LL NOTE DOTTED THROUGHOUT ARE OTHER
08:19:53 PUBLIC ART LOCATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
08:19:55 FINALLY, AND PERHAPS MOST CREATIVELY, RELATED AND ITS
08:20:00 ARCHITECTS ARE COMMITTED TO TRANSFORMING THE EXPRESSWAY
08:20:04 UNDERPASS TO A BEAUTIFUL URBAN PARK.
08:20:06 WHAT YOU SEE ON TOP, WHICH IS REALLY A TRAVESTY, IS WHAT
08:20:11 THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY UNDERPASS CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE,
08:20:15 AND THEN BELOW QUITE CREATIVELY IS WHAT THE ARK HAVE COME
08:20:20 OUT TO REALLY TRANSFORM THAT INTO A WALKABLE URBAN PARK.
08:20:24 WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MIKE HAMMON WITH
08:20:27 RELATED.
08:20:31 >> GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMAN.
08:20:33 MY NAME IS MIKE HAMMON.
08:20:34 I'M SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH THE RELATED GROUP.
08:20:36 I'M ALSO THE LEAD DEVELOPER ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
08:20:41 RELATED GROUP IS A PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANY FOUNDED IN
08:20:45 1979.
08:20:46 THE FOUNDER AND CHAIRMAN AND THE CURRENT PRIMARY OWNER OF
08:20:50 THE COMPANY IS GEORGE PEREZ.
08:20:51 RELATED OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS HAS DEVELOPED CLOSE TO
08:20:55 100,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
08:20:57 WE DEVELOPED UNITS RANGING FROM SECTION 8 SUBSIDIZED
08:21:02 APARTMENTS ALL THE WAY UP TO LUXURY CONDOMINIUMS.
08:21:04 OUR MARKET COVERS THE COUNTRY AND, IN FACT, SEVERAL
08:21:09 COUNTRIES IN LATIN AMERICA AND MEXICO.
08:21:11 REGARDING OUR EXPERIENCE IN TAMPA, WE HAVE DEVELOPED OR
08:21:15 HAVE UNDER DEVELOPMENT SIX MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS
08:21:18 CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:21:21 THAT TOTALS 2180 UNITS.
08:21:23 THAT INCLUDES RIVERWALK AND TOWN WESTSHORE WHICH RECENTLY
08:21:28 COMPLETED.
08:21:29 WE ALSO ARE ACTIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH AFFORDABLE
08:21:32 WORKFORCE HOUSING.
08:21:33 WE HAVE SEVEN DEVELOPMENTS TOTALING JUST OVER 1300 UNITS
08:21:36 THAT ARE EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION, RECENTLY COMPLETED OR
08:21:41 UNDER PLANNING.
08:21:43 WE MOST RECENTLY COMPLETED MARY BETHUNE HIGH-RISE, WHICH
08:21:48 IS AN ELDERLY PROJECT WITH 150 UNITS.
08:21:51 WE'RE ALSO -- WE ALSO HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION A BOULEVARD
08:21:54 AT WEST RIVER.
08:21:56 THIS PARTICULAR SITE WE PURCHASED APPROXIMATELY A YEAR
08:21:59 AND A HALF AGO.
08:22:00 IT HAS 176 GARDEN APARTMENTS AND JUST UNDER FIVE ACRES.
08:22:06 THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 50 YEARS OLD, AND IT'S NEARING THE
08:22:09 END OF ITS ECONOMIC LIFE.
08:22:11 IT IS A WOOD-FRAME STRUCTURE AND IT'S STARTING TO SHOW
08:22:16 ITS AGE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
08:22:18 A LOT OF STRUCTURAL ISSUES ARE STARTING TO APPEAR.
08:22:22 SO WE SET OUT ON A VISION TO REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, AND
08:22:25 WE WANTED TO REDEVELOP IT TO CREATE A NEW STANDARD FOR
08:22:30 RESIDENTIAL LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:22:33 AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEEDED TO HIRE A WORLD-CLASS
08:22:39 ARCHITECTURAL FIRM, WHICH WE FEEL WE HAVE WITH
08:22:41 ARQUITECTONICA.
08:22:44 WE ALSO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE HIRED ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST
08:22:44 CREATIVE INTERIOR DESIGN FIRMS IN THE COUNTRY, AND THAT
08:22:47 IS MEYER DAVIS OUT OF NEW YORK.
08:22:50 WE'VE SUPPLEMENTED THIS TEAM WITH A LOT OF LOCAL TALENT.
08:22:53 WE HAVE THE LOCAL OFFICE OF KIMLEY-HORN IS OUR CIVIL
08:22:56 ENGINEERS.
08:22:56 WE HAVE A LOCAL ARBORIST AND WE ALSO HAVE MANY LOCAL
08:23:00 PROFESSIONALS AND ENGINEERS THAT ARE ASSISTING US WITH
08:23:04 THIS PROPERTY.
08:23:05 RELATED, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF, IS WELL KNOWN FOR
08:23:09 OUR ART.
08:23:09 THE ART IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TIES US TOGETHER, BOTH
08:23:13 OUR DEVELOPMENTS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY.
08:23:15 AND IN THIS CASE, WE MENTIONED OUR COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC
08:23:18 ART HERE.
08:23:19 WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY COMMITTED TO WHAT THAT ART WILL BE,
08:23:22 AND THAT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING WE REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL
08:23:25 ART COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR INPUT ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
08:23:29 AND THE LAST ITEM I WANT TO MENTION IS THE FACT THAT WE
08:23:35 WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ALSO SPECIAL HERE.
08:23:37 SO WE REACHED OUT TO RITZ-CARLTON.
08:23:41 RITZ-CARLTON HAD NOT DONE A PROJECT IN TAMPA OR EVEN THE
08:23:45 TAMPA METROPOLITAN AREA.
08:23:46 THEIR NEAREST PROPERTIES WERE IN SARASOTA.
08:23:48 WE BROUGHT RITZ-CARLTON TO THE PROPERTY, SHOWED THEM THE
08:23:53 MARKET STUDY, SHOWED THEM THE SITE.
08:23:55 BASICALLY, THEY FELL IN LOVE WITH THE SITE.
08:23:57 SO WE HAVE ENTERED IN AGREEMENT WITH RITZ-CARLTON TO BOTH
08:24:01 MANAGE THE PROPERTY AND BRAND THE PROPERTY.
08:24:03 AS YOU KNOW, RITZ-CARLTON IS KNOWN FOR THEIR LEGENDARY
08:24:08 AND UNPARALLELED SERVICE.
08:24:10 THEIR PROFESSIONAL AND GRACIOUS STAFF, AND THE FACT THAT
08:24:13 THEY REQUIRE A HIGH LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION QUALITY AND
08:24:16 AMENITIES.
08:24:16 SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I THANK
08:24:20 YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
08:24:24 >>TRUETT GARDNER: WITH THAT WE NEED TO GO VIRTUAL TO
08:24:27 BERNARDO FORT-BRESCIA WHO IS IN MIAMI.
08:24:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BERNARDO, YOU ARE MUTED.
08:24:36 YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.
08:24:38 BERNARDO, YOU ARE MUTED.
08:24:46 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
08:24:49 WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
08:25:01 WE CAN SEE YOU.
08:25:02 WE CAN HEAR YOU.
08:25:03 GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:25:08 >> GOOD EVENING.
08:25:10 IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE, TO BE INVOLVED IN A
08:25:16 PROJECT IN TAMPA.
08:25:19 I'VE ALWAYS WISHED I DID SOMETHING THERE BUT HAVEN'T.
08:25:24 I'VE DONE WORK IN MANY PLACES THAT HAVE LED ME TO
08:25:27 UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS.
08:25:31 AND THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS A VERY SPECIAL SITE BECAUSE
08:25:37 OF ITS WATERFRONT ON HILLSBOROUGH BAY.
08:25:39 THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT INSPIRATION FOR ME.
08:25:42 I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION ON WHO WE ARE,
08:25:46 BUT I'D LIKE FIRST TO TAKE YOU INTO THE -- INTO MY
08:25:53 THINKING OF THIS PROJECT.
08:26:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE REACHED THE 15-MINUTE MARK
08:26:15 AS OF RIGHT NOW.
08:26:16 MR. SHELBY?
08:26:22 >> AM I ALLOWED TO CONTINUE?
08:26:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY HAVE 20 MINUTES, IS THAT CORRECT?
08:26:29 ALSO, COUNCIL, THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.
08:26:34 I DON'T KNOW WHAT SORT OF LATITUDE, IF ANY.
08:26:37 CERTAINLY IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IT BEING IN CHAMBERS.
08:26:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:26:40 I'LL KEEP A NOTE OF THIS.
08:26:42 ALL RIGHT.
08:26:42 GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:26:46 >> I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WORKING ON MANY PROJECTS,
08:26:49 CULTURAL PROJECTS, MUSEUMS AND MANY OF THE LIKE.
08:26:52 BUT ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF OUR PRACTICE IS IN THE DESIGN
08:26:57 OF LUXURY BUILDINGS.
08:26:59 WE'VE DONE SOME OF THE LEADING DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE
08:27:03 WORLD, SAN FRANCISCO, BOSTON, NEW YORK, ACROSS EUROPE,
08:27:09 MILAN, MONACO, SINGAPORE.
08:27:13 THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
08:27:15 YOU SEE HERE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN
08:27:18 INVOLVED IN.
08:27:21 IN NAPLES, WE ARE DOING A PLAY HOUSE THEATER.
08:27:25 SO WE ARE QUITE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR WORLD ON THE WEST
08:27:30 COAST OF FLORIDA, WHICH WE LIKE VERY MUCH.
08:27:33 BUT WHEN I SAW THIS SITE -- WE CAN GO AHEAD, PLEASE ON TO
08:27:39 THE NEXT IMAGE, PLEASE.
08:27:40 THERE IS A DELAY HERE.
08:27:46 THIS IS THE SITE.
08:27:56 WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAD IN
08:27:59 MIND.
08:28:00 WE WERE LOOKING TO CREATE A GREEN ENCLAVE.
08:28:06 MATURE TREES, OAK TREES, AND THE POSSIBILITY THAT GAVE US
08:28:09 THE GREEN ENVIRONMENT IS WHAT WE WERE SEEKING.
08:28:12 YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS, WE WERE
08:28:16 LOOKING TO CREATE A DESIGN THAT WAS INSPIRED IN NATURE.
08:28:22 OUR DRAWINGS WILL DEPICT HOW WE GOT INSPIRED BECAUSE WE
08:28:26 ALWAYS LIKE POETRY IN OUR PROJECT.
08:28:29 HERE YOU CAN SEE IN THE SITE PLAN, THAT THE PROJECT IS
08:28:31 COMPRISED OF TWO TOWERS THAT ARE SET FAR APART FROM EACH
08:28:35 OTHER.
08:28:35 IN BETWEEN, WE TRY TO CREATE ALONG SANTIAGO BOULEVARD NOT
08:28:40 ONLY A BEAUTIFUL OAK-LINED STREET, BUT A STREET THAT
08:28:44 FEELS LIKE PART OF A COMPLEX OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS OF
08:28:48 DIFFERENT SCALES.
08:28:49 AND ONE OF THE ASPECTS IS THAT TOWN HOUSES THAT ARE
08:28:52 LINING THE STREET, THAT ARE HIDING THE GARAGE AND GIVING
08:28:56 IT A RESIDENTIAL FEEL.
08:28:59 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:29:00 INSPIRATION IS IMPORTANT.
08:29:06 WE LOOKED AT THE WATER, HILLSBOROUGH BAY AND THE BREEZES
08:29:11 THAT COME FROM THE WATER.
08:29:12 IF WE LOOK AT THE RIPPLES AND UNDULATIONS THAT THE WATER
08:29:17 CREATES AS A WAY OF INSPIRATION, A WAY THAT WATER FEELING
08:29:21 COULD RISE INTO THE BUILDING.
08:29:23 WE ALSO LOOKED, FELT THE BREEZE OF THE SITE, AND WE
08:29:27 THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE COULD DO A BUILDING THAT WAS SHAPED
08:29:32 BY THE WINDS OF THE BREEZES THAT COME FROM THE BAY.
08:29:35 WITH THIS, WE STARTED TO CREATE AN IDEA FOR THE BUILDING
08:29:39 BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE BUILDINGS THAT DON'T HAVE A STORY
08:29:44 TO TELL.
08:29:45 WE LIKE SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME REASON TO BE.
08:29:49 CAN WE ADVANCE, PLEASE?
08:29:51 HERE YOU CAN SEE THE VIEW FROM THE BUILDING BELOW.
08:29:57 YOU SEE THE WOOD SOFFITS, THE SHAPE OF THE BALCONIES,
08:30:02 THAT ARE RISING LIKE THE RIPPLES THAT I MENTIONED OR THE
08:30:06 WIND HAD BLOWN INTO THE SITE AND CREATED THAT SHAPE THAT
08:30:10 RISES FROM THE GROUND UP TO THE SKY.
08:30:13 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:30:13 HERE YOU CAN SEE THE TWO BUILDINGS.
08:30:22 I MENTIONED THE POSITION OF THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE IT IS
08:30:25 THAT STREET WITH TOWN HOUSES THAT CREATES THE ENCLAVE
08:30:30 THAT I MENTIONED THAT CONNECTS THESE TWO TOWERS.
08:30:34 PART OF THE IDEA WAS TO CREATE TOWERS THAT FELT
08:30:39 TRANSPARENT THAT FELT LIGHT, THAT WERE NOT SOLID OR HEAVY
08:30:45 BUT THEY WERE SURROUNDING BY THESE TERRACES, VERANDA THAT
08:30:52 SURROUND THE BUILDING THAT GIVE IT A SENSE OF DEPTH SO
08:30:54 THAT THEY ARE NOT SOLID WALLS, BUT INSTEAD THAT THERE'S
08:30:58 DEPTH, TRANSPARENCY, A FEELING OF LIKENESS TO --
08:31:02 LIGHTNESS TO THE BUILDING.
08:31:04 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:31:05 I MENTIONED THE STREET AND THE OAK TREES, AND THIS VIEW
08:31:10 IS PRETTY MUCH A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, BECAUSE BUILDINGS
08:31:15 BELONG TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:31:16 I WANTED TO CREATE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT ENCLAVE.
08:31:19 A SENSE OF ARRIVAL TO A PLACE.
08:31:23 A SENSE OF PLACE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.
08:31:26 BUILDINGS BELONG IN PLACES, AND THE PLACE IS AS IMPORTANT
08:31:29 AS THE BUILDING ITSELF.
08:31:30 AND THAT IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
08:31:31 YOU CAN SEE FROM THE STREET THAT IT FEELS LIKE A
08:31:34 RESIDENTIAL STREET LINED WITH THOSE TOWN HOUSES WITH
08:31:38 GARAGE CONCEALED, INVISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
08:31:40 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:31:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:31:43 YOU HAVE REACHED 20 MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.
08:31:49 >> OKAY.
08:31:50 I UNDERSTAND.
08:31:52 I THINK THIS GIVES YOU THE GENERAL SENSE OF THE BUILDING
08:31:55 AND THE ARRIVAL, THE GREENERY.
08:31:57 AND WE DESIGNED BUILDINGS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS
08:32:03 AND WE FEEL THIS IS VERY MUCH IN THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR
08:32:07 FIRM.
08:32:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:32:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE ARCHITECT.
08:32:14 IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:32:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD AND ASK.
08:32:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. FORT IS IT?
08:32:30 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
08:32:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN READING THROUGH SOME OF THE
08:32:34 OBJECTIONS AND SPECIFICALLY FROM THE BUILDING THAT'S THE
08:32:41 CLOSEST, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE STOVALL BUILDING, ARE YOU
08:32:46 FAMILIAR WITH THAT?
08:32:50 >> YES.
08:32:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CLEARLY, AN ARCHITECT OF YOUR
08:32:55 REPUTATION AND EXPERIENCE YOU WANT TO ALLOW BUILDINGS TO
08:33:01 WORK WITH EACH OTHER TO RELATE WITH EACH OTHER, NOT
08:33:07 CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER AS PART OF YOUR ENTIRE DESIGN
08:33:12 PROGRAM.
08:33:13 I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION.
08:33:14 I DON'T HAVE AN ARCHITECT DEGREE.
08:33:16 I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S PART OF YOUR PROCESS.
08:33:21 >> YES.
08:33:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE
08:33:26 CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE STOVALL TO THAT BUILDING?
08:33:32 WERE YOU ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT AT ALL?
08:33:34 THE PROXIMITY OF THE TWO BUILDINGS.
08:33:42 WAS THERE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE PLANS THAT YOU WORKED
08:33:48 THROUGH IN TERMS OF -- IT APPEARS TO ME PERHAPS IF YOU
08:33:52 HAD SET -- AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PRIMARY BUILDING ON
08:33:55 THE BAYSHORE, NOT THE OTHER ONES, IF YOU HAD SET THAT
08:33:59 PRIMARY BUILDING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK OFF OF THE
08:34:02 BAYSHORE, THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO
08:34:06 NOT BE AS CLOSE TO THE STOVALL.
08:34:09 WAS THAT PART OF YOUR PROGRAM?
08:34:11 DID YOU WRESTLE WITH THAT?
08:34:17 >> IN FACT, THAT IS WHAT WE DID.
08:34:20 BECAUSE OF THE CURVATURE OF THE SITE, WE HAD ACTUALLY THE
08:34:23 ABILITY TO POSITION THE BUILDING FURTHER FORWARD, AND WE
08:34:29 ACTUALLY PULLED IT BACK.
08:34:30 AMONG THE REASONS WE PULLED IT BACK WAS, OF COURSE, WE
08:34:33 WERE NOT LOOKING TO COME FORWARD AND PROJECT DRAMATICALLY
08:34:38 ONTO THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR.
08:34:40 THE PRIMARY VIEWS OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE OF THE BAY.
08:34:42 IN FACT, IT GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL
08:34:50 GARDEN IN THE FRONT, THAT WE HAVE AN IMAGE THAT WE CAN
08:34:53 SHOW YOU.
08:34:53 IT'S IN THAT GARDEN WHERE WE PLACE THE ORIGINAL FOUNTAIN
08:34:58 THAT REMAINS -- BUILDING THAT EXISTED ON THE SITE, AND WE
08:35:04 CREATED AN AMBIENCE ON THAT ADDITIONAL SETBACK THAT WE
08:35:06 CREATED WITH THAT FOUNTAIN IN THE FRONT.
08:35:10 ACTUALLY, THERE IS AN IMAGE OF THAT THAT SHOWS THE AMOUNT
08:35:14 OF GREENERY WE LEFT FORWARD OF THE BUILDING.
08:35:17 WE DID TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
08:35:19 WE ALSO TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION -- YES, SORRY.
08:35:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
08:35:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
08:35:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CONTINUE TO SHOW SLIDES.
08:35:33 IN THAT CASE, ASK FOR A POINT OF PRIVILEGE, SEE HOW MUCH
08:35:35 MORE TIME THE GENTLEMAN NEEDS TO FINISH THE PRESENTATION,
08:35:38 SINCE WE'RE DOING THE SLIDE PRESENTATION OF THE BUILDING
08:35:41 ALONG WITH THE QUESTIONS MR. DINGFELDER IS ASKING.
08:35:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY MORE SLIDES DO YOU HAVE LEFT
08:35:47 IN THIS PRESENTATION?
08:35:53 >> THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL SLIDE THAT I WAS MISSING, SIR.
08:35:58 I WANTED TO POINT OUT THIS PARK THAT WE CREATED FORWARD
08:36:04 OF THE BUILDING.
08:36:04 YOU CAN SEE HERE LOOKING FROM THE CORNER WHERE WE HAVE
08:36:09 PRESERVED THAT FOUNTAIN.
08:36:11 I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS -- YOU WERE ASKING
08:36:14 ME HOW DO WE RESPOND TO A SITUATION LIKE THIS, PRECISELY,
08:36:19 WE DIDN'T MOVE THE BUILDING FORWARD AND WE KEPT THAT OPEN
08:36:22 SPACE AND WE GAVE OURSELVES ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE BRANCHES
08:36:26 OF THE OAKS ALONG SANTIAGO.
08:36:29 SO WE RESET THE BUILDING TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL GREENERY
08:36:33 AND KEEP THOSE BEAUTIFUL OAKS.
08:36:35 NOW, HOW DO WE ALSO REACT?
08:36:37 WE CREATE PRIVACY BETWEEN BUILDINGS BY PUTTING THOSE
08:36:40 BALCONIES.
08:36:40 BALCONIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT PRIVACY SHIELDS BECAUSE THEY
08:36:44 CREATE A SHADOW LINE, BUT ALSO, DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO
08:36:48 LOOK AT EACH OTHER VERTICAL AND HORIZONTALLY IN THE
08:36:52 WINDOWS.
08:36:53 OUR BUILDING IS A VERY LIGHT BUILDING, VERY SOFT
08:36:57 BUILDING, AND IT'S NOT AN AGGRESSIVE BUILDING, IT IS A
08:37:05 FRIENDLY BUILDING IN SOFTNESS AND SHAPE.
08:37:07 I THINK IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I
08:37:09 THINK ANYTHING WILL ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A VERY
08:37:13 POSITIVE WAY.
08:37:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE ONLY THING THAT I DIDN'T HEAR, MR.
08:37:19 FORT, WAS THERE ANOTHER LOCATION ON THE SITE PLAN THAT
08:37:28 YOU CONSIDERED THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FURTHER AWAY FROM THE
08:37:31 STOVALL?
08:37:35 >>TRUETT GARDNER: TRUETT GARDNER, HERE.
08:37:37 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
08:37:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
08:37:42 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I'D LIKE TO ANSWER THAT.
08:37:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TRUETT, THE LAST I CHECKED, YOU
08:37:47 WEREN'T THE ARCHITECT.
08:37:48 YOU PRESENTED YOUR ARCHITECT.
08:37:50 I HAVE A QUESTION TO HIM.
08:37:52 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE ANSWER IS, WITH ALL DUE
08:37:55 RESPECT.
08:37:57 >> SURE.
08:37:58 OF COURSE, I WOULD BE PLEASED TO ANSWER.
08:38:00 WE DID CONSIDER MANY POSSIBILITIES ON WHERE TO PLACE THIS
08:38:04 BUILDING.
08:38:05 AS I MENTIONED, WE FELT WE WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY
08:38:13 CREATING AN ALIGNMENT OF THE BUILDINGS AND CREATING A
08:38:17 MORE CLEAN, PURE URBAN EDGE ALONG THE AVENUE TO CREATE A
08:38:23 GATEWAY INTO SANTIAGO.
08:38:25 WE DO THINK WE DID QUITE A FEW ALTERNATIVES, AND WE FELT
08:38:33 THIS IS WHAT GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A
08:38:35 NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TOWN HOUSES, AND GREENERY AND
08:38:39 APARTMENTS AT THE CORNER.
08:38:40 OF COURSE, ARCHITECTS EVALUATE MANY ALTERNATIVES.
08:38:43 WE THINK THIS WAS THE MOST COMPATIBLE ALTERNATIVE FOR THE
08:38:48 SITE DEVELOPMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORING
08:38:50 BUILDING.
08:38:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
08:38:54 THANK YOU, MR. GARDNER.
08:38:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:38:55 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
08:38:58 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK ONE FOLLOW-UP?
08:39:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, GO
08:39:02 AHEAD.
08:39:02 >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE YOU HAD THE FLOOR, MR. FORT, I'VE
08:39:06 SEEN YOUR WORK IN MANY COUNTRIES FROM MIAMI TO SINGAPORE,
08:39:10 AND YOUR BUILDINGS ARE DISTINCTIVE AND WORLD-RENOWNED.
08:39:14 MY QUESTION IS SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. DINGFELDER ASKED,
08:39:19 LOOKING AT THE CONTEXT OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, IF YOU
08:39:22 STOOD OUT IN THE WATER FROM BAYSHORE AND LOOKED BACK, HOW
08:39:25 DO YOU THINK THIS FITS INTO THE CONSISTENCY OF THE LOOK
08:39:29 AND FEEL OF BAYSHORE?
08:39:36 >> I THINK THIS BUILDING WILL BE PROBABLY THE LEAST SOLID
08:39:44 BUILDING ALONG THE ROAD.
08:39:48 THE LIGHTEST AND MOST TRANSPARENT.
08:39:55 I THINK IT WILL HAVE A VERY GOOD FEELING FOR THE
08:39:57 NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:39:58 I THINK IT IS ONE THAT HAS A NAUTICAL FEEL.
08:40:02 I THINK THAT'S WHAT BELONGS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO
08:40:05 THE WATER.
08:40:07 AND I THINK IT WILL BE AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THE
08:40:09 NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:40:10 I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT WILL IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:40:14 IT WILL ENHANCE VALUES, AND I THINK THAT THE LEVEL OF
08:40:17 LUXURY THAT RELATED PUTS INTO THEIR PROJECTS, I'VE DONE
08:40:22 MANY PROJECTS WITH THEM, ALL OF WHICH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
08:40:25 SUCCESSFUL AND HAVE MADE NEIGHBORHOODS.
08:40:29 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PREVIOUSLY WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED
08:40:33 BUT THERE'S ALWAYS ONE STEP FORWARD THAT CAN EXIST FOR
08:40:36 EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THAT STEP
08:40:39 FORWARD.
08:40:40 I THINK THEIR EMPHASIS ON ART IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.
08:40:45 ALSO, IN THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDINGS.
08:40:47 AND I THINK THAT BRINGING RITZ-CARLTON, I'VE WORKED WITH
08:40:52 RITZ-CARLTON BEFORE.
08:40:54 I'VE SEEN WHAT RITZ-CARLTON DOES IN THE BRANDING OF THE
08:41:00 BUILDING IS ALSO THE BRANDING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:41:02 I DO THINK THIS BUILDING WILL BE SORT OF A NEXT STEP OF
08:41:08 EVOLUTION OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:41:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A REQUEST OF
08:41:15 COUNCIL.
08:41:16 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THE PETITIONERS, WHO
08:41:22 HAVE SPOKEN, MR. GARDNER, I ASK THAT YOU DO THAT NOW, BUT
08:41:30 I ASK THAT YOU DO IT IN THE FORM OF QUESTIONS AND NOT
08:41:33 STATEMENTS.
08:41:34 I ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM MAKING ANY JUDGMENTS UNTIL
08:41:38 YOU HEAR THE ENTIRETY OF THE EVIDENCE OF THE HEARING, AND
08:41:41 YOU DON'T MAKE ANY CONCLUSORY STATEMENTS IN ADVANCE OF
08:41:44 MAKING YOUR DECISION AT THE END OF THE HEARING WHEN YOU
08:41:49 HAVE A MOTION OR A POTENTIAL MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
08:41:52 SO I ASK YOU JUST TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE.
08:41:55 AND IF YOU HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, THEN I BELIEVE IT'S
08:41:58 THE OPPORTUNE TIME TO MOVE ON.
08:42:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
08:42:03 HEARING NONE, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN
08:42:08 THAT HAD LOGGED IN BEFORE, MR. VAKA, CORRECT, REQUESTED
08:42:14 THAT ADDITIONAL TIME.
08:42:15 AND TO BE SPLIT WITH A DR. GROSS, I BELIEVE.
08:42:18 MR. VAKA, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR CAMERA ON?
08:42:31 THERE YOU GO.
08:42:33 YOUR MICROPHONE AS WELL.
08:42:42 >> THAT BETTER?
08:42:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:42:43 GO AHEAD.
08:42:44 >> THANK YOU.
08:42:45 THANK YOU TO ALL THE COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO APPEAR.
08:42:48 AGAIN, MY NAME IS GEORGE VAKA.
08:42:50 I'M KIND OF IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION TONIGHT.
08:42:52 I AM A RESIDENT OF THE STOVALL.
08:42:55 I AM PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, AND I ALSO AM A LAWYER
08:42:59 AND HAVE BEEN IN TAMPA FOR 37 YEARS, ALTHOUGH I'VE NEVER
08:43:02 HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF APPEARING BEFORE YOU.
08:43:04 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT WE DO
08:43:13 NOT AS A GROUP OPPOSE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO
08:43:15 US.
08:43:16 WE JUST OPPOSE THIS PLAN.
08:43:20 WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER'S LOBBYISTS,
08:43:25 THE BALLARD PEOPLE.
08:43:27 THEY CAME AND TALKED TO US IN MARCH.
08:43:32 THEY SAT WITH THE BOARD BEFORE COVID.
08:43:36 THEY WERE VERY PLEASANT, AND AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, AFTER
08:43:39 THE MEETING, OUR BOARD HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
08:43:44 SO THROUGH OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND THE MANAGER, WE
08:43:51 SENT QUESTIONS, AND WE PUT INTO THE RECORD FOR YOU TO
08:43:54 LOOK AT THE SERIES OF E-MAILS THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH IN
08:43:59 WHICH WE INSERTED OUR QUESTIONS AND EVENTUALLY GOT SOME
08:44:05 ANSWERS, BUT NOT REALLY TO OUR SATISFACTION.
08:44:07 WE ASKED ABOUT PARKING, AND THEY TOLD US IT WAS GOING
08:44:15 FROM 225 SPACES TO 393, BUT THEN TOLD YOU ALL AND THE
08:44:22 CITY THAT SOMEHOW THE DAILY TRIPS WOULD DECREASE,
08:44:24 NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WERE
08:44:27 BEING ALMOST DOUBLED ON-SITE.
08:44:29 WE ASKED IF THEY DID A FINANCIAL IMPACT EVALUATION TO
08:44:33 DETERMINE ANY DETRIMENTAL FLUCTUATION OF LAND VALUES TO
08:44:38 ADJACENT PROPERTY.
08:44:39 THE ANSWER THAT WE GOT WAS WE BELIEVE, NOT EVIDENCE, BUT
08:44:44 WE BELIEVE THAT THE ADJACENT LAND WOULD INCREASE IN VALUE
08:44:48 BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO A RITZ-BRANDED PROPERTY, AND
08:44:52 THEN THEY PROVIDED US WITH THE SAME PROJECTION OF AD
08:44:55 VALOREM REVENUE TAXES THAT THEY PROVIDED YOU AGAIN
08:44:59 TONIGHT.
08:44:59 WE EXPRESSED OUR CONCERN THAT THERE WAS ONLY A SEVEN-FOOT
08:45:05 SETBACK, AND THAT THE BUILDINGS WOULD FACE ONE ANOTHER
08:45:08 ONLY 43 FEET APART.
08:45:10 THE RESPONSE TO THAT WAS, "SORRY, WE CAN'T MOVE THE
08:45:13 BUILDING."
08:45:14 WE ALSO EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS ABOUT HOW DRIVING NOISE,
08:45:19 DIRT, AND DIRT MITIGATION AND THE LIKE.
08:45:23 THE RESPONSE WAS ONLY TO ADMIT THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY
08:45:26 MIGHT USE OR CONSIDER TILES AS A CONSTRUCTION METHOD OR
08:45:31 TECHNIQUE.
08:45:31 WE HAD ASKED OUR ASSOCIATION LAWYER TO REACH OUT TO MR.
08:45:35 GARDNER IN AN EFFORT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR
08:45:38 CONCERNS.
08:45:40 AND I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED THIS BECAUSE WHEN YOU
08:45:43 GET A LAWYER LETTER, THE TYPICAL RESPONSE IS TO GET ONE
08:45:46 BACK, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
08:45:49 SO WE ARE HERE OPPOSING THIS REZONING BECAUSE WE REALLY
08:45:55 DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE.
08:45:58 AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I'M NOT -- I'M NOT A LAND USE
08:46:01 LAWYER, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE BURDEN TO CONVINCE
08:46:07 THE CITY TO REZONE IS ON THEM.
08:46:09 AND THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED HAS ALREADY BEEN
08:46:11 DETERMINED TO BE INCONSISTENT AND DEFICIENT BY THE CITY'S
08:46:16 OWN STAFF.
08:46:18 SO THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN COME AND GET THIS REZONING
08:46:22 IS TO THEN ALSO HAVE YOU ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THE WAIVERS.
08:46:29 AT LEAST, AGAIN, TO MY UNDERSTANDING.
08:46:31 I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT SECTION 27-136 HAS NINE
08:46:37 DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
08:46:39 FOUR OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WE STRENUOUSLY OBJECT TO WHAT
08:46:43 YOU'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE DEVELOPER AND THE CONCLUSIONS OF
08:46:46 THE CITY STAFF.
08:46:48 IN PARTICULAR, NUMBERS ONE, TWO, FIVE, AND SIX, ALL OF
08:46:52 WHICH REQUIRE YOU TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS
08:46:56 TO ON-SITE NATURAL ELEMENTS SURROUNDING IMPACTED
08:47:00 NEIGHBORHOODS, COMPATIBILITY WITH SITE DESIGN AND SCALE
08:47:05 EXTERNAL TO THE PROJECT.
08:47:07 MAXIMIZE THE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING
08:47:10 WOODED AREAS AND CONSIDER WHETHER THIS DEVELOPMENT IS
08:47:13 APPROPRIATE CONSIDERING THE LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND
08:47:16 COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED
08:47:19 NEIGHBORHOODS.
08:47:19 WE SUBMIT THAT SEVEN FEET SETBACK AND 43 FEET DOES NOT
08:47:26 SATISFY THESE REQUIREMENTS WHEN LOOKING AT THE IMPACTED
08:47:29 NEIGHBOR.
08:47:30 NOW, I'VE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO
08:47:33 FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH THIS AREA, AND I NOTICED THAT
08:47:36 GENERALLY THROUGHOUT THE CODE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT CODE
08:47:40 DESIGNATIONS IT RECOGNIZES THAT AS BUILDINGS GET HIGHER,
08:47:44 AS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS GROW, SO GENERALLY DO THE
08:47:48 SETBACKS.
08:47:48 THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING DOES PRECISELY THE OPPOSITE.
08:47:54 I BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO BE EITHER THE TALLEST OR
08:47:57 CERTAINLY ONE OF THE TALLEST BUILDINGS ON BAYSHORE AT 328
08:48:01 FEET, YET THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TOWERS, THE TWO CONDO
08:48:05 TOWERS WILL BE THE SMALLEST OF ANY ON BAYSHORE.
08:48:08 AND I'D ASK THE CLERK RIGHT NOW IF THEY COULD PLAY THE
08:48:12 BAYSHORE CONDO VIDEO.
08:48:15 THIS IS A VIDEO TAKEN BY A DRONE WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR
08:48:29 SO.
08:48:30 AND IT HAS ELECTRONICALLY MEASURED THE DISTANCES BETWEEN
08:48:34 THE CONDO TOWERS THAT APPEAR ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
08:48:37 AS THIS STARTS FROM BASICALLY HOWARD OR NORTH OF HOWARD
08:48:45 AND GOES TO THE MOST SOUTHERN OF THE CONDOMINIUMS ON
08:48:49 BAYSHORE.
08:48:52 AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THE
08:48:56 DISTANCES BETWEEN THESE CONDO TOWERS RANGE ANYWHERE FROM
08:49:02 SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET TO 91 FEET.
08:49:08 AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THIS
08:49:12 PARTICULAR VIDEO, I'D LIKE TO TEMPORARILY TURN IT OVER TO
08:49:15 DR. GROSS, WHO HAS PREPARED MORE OF A DETAILED
08:49:22 PRESENTATION PERTAINING TO THE DISTANCES BETWEEN THE
08:49:26 BUILDINGS AND THE LACK OF COMPATIBILITY OF THE PROPOSED
08:49:30 BUILDING TO THESE DISTANCES.
08:49:32 STEVE?
08:49:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS MR. GROSS BEEN SWORN IN, MADAM CLERK?
08:49:54 >>THE CLERK: NO, HE HASN'T.
08:49:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
08:49:58 IF WE CAN STOP THE CLOCK THEN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:50:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE'LL STOP THE CLOCK.
08:50:19 >>THE CLERK: MR. GROSS WAS LOGGED ON.
08:50:22 I DO NOT SEE HIM ON RIGHT NOW.
08:50:23 HOLD ON.
08:50:31 >> THANK YOU.
08:50:32 GOOD EVENING.
08:50:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD EVENING, SIR, GO AHEAD.
08:50:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS YOUR CAMERA THERE?
08:50:38 >> I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE THAT RIGHT NOW.
08:50:39 HOLD ON, PLEASE.
08:50:40 I CAN'T SEEM TO GET IT TURNED ON.
08:50:45 I'M VERY SORRY, SIRS.
08:50:47 I CAN'T GET THE CAMERA TURNED ON.
08:50:51 MY COMPUTER WON'T GIVE ACCESS TO THE WEB CAM.
08:50:56 IT'S A PRIVACY ISSUE OF SOME SORT.
08:50:58 I'VE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES.
08:50:59 I APOLOGIZE.
08:51:00 LET ME SEE IF I -- LET ME SEE IF THIS GIVES IT.
08:51:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S IMPORTANT, SIR FOR THE PURPOSES OF
08:51:06 THE HEARING.
08:51:08 >> I UNDERSTAND.
08:51:09 I'M TRYING MY BEST, BUT MY COMPUTER IS SIMPLY NOT BEING
08:51:13 COOPERATIVE AND NOT GIVING ACCESS TO THE WEB CAM FOR SOME
08:51:17 REASON THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
08:51:30 I'M SORRY.
08:51:30 I'M ON WEB PROGRAMS ALL THE TIME AND I CAN'T GET THIS
08:51:34 CAMERA TO ACTUATE FOR SOME REASON.
08:51:36 MY WIFE IS GOING TO SIGN ON ON HER COMPUTER AND TRY AND
08:51:40 GET HER WEB CAM TO WORK.
08:51:42 BUT I CAN'T SEEM TO GET IT TO WORK.
08:51:44 I'M HAPPY TO SWEAR IN.
08:51:46 CAN I TRY AND SHARE MY SCREEN, BUT I CAN'T SEEM TO GET
08:51:51 THE WEB CAM TO ALLOW ME DUE TO PRIVACY ISSUES OF THE
08:51:55 COMPUTER TO GIVE ME ACCESS TO THE WEB CAM.
08:51:58 I APOLOGIZE.
08:52:02 >> THE CLERK HAS YOUR PowerPoint.
08:52:04 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SIMULTANEOUSLY SEE IT OR DO
08:52:09 WHATEVER WHILE SHE'S.
08:52:11 >> YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:52:13 THAT'S GREAT.
08:52:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT, SIR, YOU CANNOT TESTIFY TO IT.
08:52:18 YOU CANNOT OFFER EVIDENCE TO IT.
08:52:20 UNTIL THE CLERK SWEARS YOU IN AND --
08:52:31 >> SIR, ALL I CAN SAY IS MY WIFE IS SIGNED IN ON HER
08:52:34 COMPUTER AND I'M HAPPY TO GO TO HER COMPUTER AND OFFER
08:52:39 TESTIMONY.
08:52:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU BRING HER FORWARD?
08:52:44 >> JULIA WINSTON.
08:52:46 >>THE CLERK: WHAT IS THE FIRST NAME?
08:52:49 I'M SORRY.
08:52:50 >> JULIA WINSTON.
08:52:51 W-I-N-S-T-O-N.
08:52:57 THE E-MAIL ADDRESS IS JWINSTON@TAMPADSL.NET.
08:53:08 >>THE CLERK: I DO NOT SEE THAT.
08:53:09 OKAY.
08:53:12 I SEE HER.
08:53:14 HOLD ON.
08:53:17 >> SORRY ABOUT THIS, TEAM.
08:53:19 I APOLOGIZE.
08:53:19 TECHNOLOGY.
08:53:22 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
08:53:25 >> WE HAVE TO SEE YOU.
08:53:27 >> OKAY.
08:53:27 WE'RE ON.
08:53:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
08:53:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. WINSTON, WHY DON'T YOU SWITCH PLACES
08:53:38 WITH --
08:53:40 >> YES.
08:53:40 I'M GOING TO.
08:53:46 >> THANK YOU.
08:53:46 MY APOLOGIES, TEAM.
08:53:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL START THE CLOCK BACK UP.
08:53:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE'S NOT SWORN IN YET, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:53:54 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
08:53:56 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE TRUTH, THE
08:53:59 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:54:01 >> I DO.
08:54:02 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
08:54:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:54:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:54:05 I'LL START THE CLOCK NOW.
08:54:07 GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:54:08 >> CAN YOU BRING UP THE PowerPoint, PLEASE?
08:54:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:54:12 WE SEE IT.
08:54:14 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR STAYING
08:54:16 LATE.
08:54:16 I APPRECIATE IT.
08:54:18 I'M OWNER OF 601 UNIT IN THE STOVALL, A MEMBER OF THE
08:54:23 CONDO BOARD.
08:54:24 I'VE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR 28 YEARS.
08:54:27 I'M A PHYSICIAN WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, AND
08:54:31 I'D LIKE TO PRESENT SOME INFORMATION TO YOU REGARDING THE
08:54:35 STRUCTURES ON BAYSHORE.
08:54:36 SO IF YOU WOULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND THEN THE NEXT
08:54:40 ONE, PLEASE.
08:54:41 AND THE NEXT ONE.
08:54:44 WE'LL GO SOUTH TO NORTH ALONG BAYSHORE.
08:54:46 AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE VIDEO THAT WAS SHOWN.
08:54:49 SO WHAT I DID HERE IS I USED GOOGLE EARTH TO ASSESS THE
08:54:54 DISTANCES USING THE GOOGLE EARTH TOOL BETWEEN THE TOWERS.
08:54:58 THE TOWERS REPRESENT AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT ALONG BAYSHORE.
08:55:02 THIS IS THE BELLAMY PINNACLE AND BAYSHORE TOWERS.
08:55:07 YOU CAN SEE THE DISTANCE IS 130 AND 160 FEET WITH AMPLE
08:55:10 SPACE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.
08:55:11 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:55:12 THIS IS THE ALAGON CANTERBURY REGENCY TOWER SPACING.
08:55:23 YOU CAN SEE 147 FEET AND 161 FEET BETWEEN THE TOWERS.
08:55:24 NEXT, PLEASE.
08:55:26 THIS IS THE VIRAGE AND REGENCY.
08:55:33 NOW, THERE WAS NO VIRAGE IMAGE AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT IS A
08:55:37 NEW DEVELOPMENT.
08:55:38 WHAT I DID HERE WAS TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH SHOWING THE SPACING
08:55:41 BETWEEN THE TWO TOWERS AND THEN UTILIZED GOOGLE EARTH TO
08:55:46 MEASURE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINES.
08:55:48 YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S APPROXIMATELY 91 FEET.
08:55:50 SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THE VIDEO.
08:55:52 NEXT.
08:55:53 THIS IS THE SANCTUARY, VERY NEW STRUCTURE, THAT WAS JUST
08:56:00 RECENTLY BUILT AS WELL, AND IT'S STILL UNDER
08:56:03 CONSTRUCTION.
08:56:03 YOU CAN SEE THE SANCTUARY TO THE DIPLOMAT IS 150 FEET.
08:56:06 NEXT.
08:56:07 THIS IS THE ATRIUM TOWER TO HARBOUR HOUSE.
08:56:14 264 FEET DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TOWERS.
08:56:17 NEXT.
08:56:17 YOU CAN SEE ALL ALONG NORTH BAYSHORE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
08:56:22 345 BUILDING TO THE STRUCTURES, THERE IS A HUGE SPACE
08:56:27 BETWEEN THE TOWERS ALL ALONG BAYSHORE.
08:56:30 WE FOUND IT INTERESTING.
08:56:33 WE LOOKED AT THE RELATED GROUPS OWN RENTAL STRUCTURE ON
08:56:37 THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, AND WE LOOKED AT THE TOWERS
08:56:39 COMING OUT OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
08:56:42 THERE WERE THREE TOWERS THAT EMANATE FROM THE STRUCTURE
08:56:44 AND FACE THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, AND IF YOU MEASURE THE
08:56:47 DISTANCES BETWEEN THOSE TOWERS, THEY ARE 90 FEET.
08:56:51 NEXT.
08:56:53 THIS IS THE MONTE CARLO NEXT TO OUR BUILDING AND THE
08:56:58 TOWERS THAT JUT OUT FROM IT HAVE A DISTANCE OF 124 FEET.
08:57:03 NEXT.
08:57:08 WE LOOKED AT HARBOUR ISLAND.
08:57:11 HARBOUR ISLAND IS NOT BAYSHORE.
08:57:12 IT IS ACTUALLY A HIGHER DENSITY AREA.
08:57:14 WE MEASURED THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE THREE STRUCTURES,
08:57:17 THE TALL TOWERS ON THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DISTANCE
08:57:20 MEASURED IS 90 FEET BETWEEN THAT STRUCTURE, AND 65 FEET
08:57:26 BETWEEN THE NEXT TWO STRUCTURES.
08:57:29 EVEN IN THE HIGH DENSITY AREA OF HARBOUR ISLAND, YOU CAN
08:57:34 SEE THAT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TOWERS 65 FEET AS
08:57:36 OPPOSED TO WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A 43-FOOT DISTANCE
08:57:41 BETWEEN THE PROPOSED TOWER OF THE RELATED GROUP.
08:57:45 NEXT.
08:57:45 NEXT.
08:57:49 SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE PROPOSED TOWER, A RENDERING
08:57:55 THAT WAS SENT TO US AND IS PUBLISHED IN PUBLIC RECORD OF
08:57:58 THE RELATED GROUP'S TOWER.
08:58:00 I WANT YOU TO TAKE NOTE OF THE INCREDIBLE CLOSENESS IN
08:58:04 PROXIMITY OF THE PROPOSED TOWER TO OUR BUILDING, STOVALL,
08:58:10 AND LESS THAN -- APPROXIMATELY 50% OF WHAT THE CURRENT
08:58:14 STANDARD, THE MINIMUM STANDARD IS FOR THE TOWER DISTANCES
08:58:18 ON BAYSHORE.
08:58:19 NEXT.
08:58:20 AND HERE'S JUST A COMPARISON THAT YOU CAN SEE.
08:58:25 HERE ARE THE SPACINGS OF THE -- FROM THE THREE TOWERS ON
08:58:30 SOUTH BAYSHORE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DISTANCE --
08:58:35 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPACINGS OF THOSE TOWERS AND THE
08:58:38 PROPOSED TOWER HERE.
08:58:39 QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT.
08:58:40 NEXT.
08:58:41 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, FURTHERMORE, I
08:58:45 APPRECIATE THE ARCHITECT'S DISCUSSION, AND I APPRECIATE
08:58:49 HIS EXPERTISE AND THE BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURES DESIGNED.
08:58:54 I BEG TO DIFFER ON SOME OF THE ISSUES HERE.
08:58:56 IF YOU LOOK AT THE PINK HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IS THE
08:58:59 STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING THAT'S PROPOSED.
08:59:01 THE GRAY BELOW IT IS THE STOVALL WITH THE RED ARROW
08:59:05 POINTING BETWEEN IT.
08:59:06 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WAY THEY POSITIONED THEIR
08:59:09 BUILDING IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR BUILDING.
08:59:13 AND WE DID AN ANALYSIS AND LOOKED AT THE STRUCTURE OF THE
08:59:17 PROPERTY ITSELF, AND SIMPLY BY MOVING THEIR STRUCTURE
08:59:21 MORE WESTERLY, THEY CAN OPEN UP THE ENTIRE AREA THERE BY
08:59:25 SIMPLY ELIMINATING ONE TOWN HOUSE AND OPEN UP THE ENTIRE
08:59:30 STRUCTURE, ALTHOUGH IT'S STILL TOO CLOSE TO US, IN OUR
08:59:32 OPINION.
08:59:33 NEXT.
08:59:34 I'M AN OPHTHALMOLOGIST BY TRAINING AND I WORK WITH VISUAL
08:59:42 ANGLES ALL THE TIME.
08:59:43 I TOOK A PICTURE OF THE AQUATICA FROM OUR 601 BUILDING.
08:59:47 YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE LEFT SIDE.
08:59:49 THEN I DID, USING VISUAL ANGLES, I APPROXIMATED WHAT THE
08:59:53 AQUATICA WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WERE 43 FEET AWAY FROM US.
08:59:58 YOU CAN SEE FROM A PRIVACY POINT OF VIEW, YOU CAN SEE
09:00:03 RIGHT INTO THOSE APARTMENTS ADJACENT TO US.
09:00:05 AND WE WONDER WHY ANYBODY WOULD EVEN WANT TO DO IT FROM
09:00:08 THE OPPOSITE SIDE, IN OTHER WORDS, WHY WOULD PEOPLE FROM
09:00:11 THEIR PROPOSED TOWER WANT TO HAVE SUCH A PROXIMITY TO US.
09:00:15 NEXT.
09:00:17 SO IN SUMMARY, WE IN THE STOVALL DO NOT OPPOSE
09:00:24 DEVELOPMENT ON BAYSHORE.
09:00:25 WE REALIZE THAT IS A NECESSARY PROCESS.
09:00:27 HOWEVER, THE ENTRY TOWER DISTANCE BETWEEN THE STOVALL AND
09:00:31 THE PROPOSED RELATED GROUP HIGH-RISE IS FAR TOO SMALL AND
09:00:34 COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER TO BAYSHORE.
09:00:37 WE SUGGEST A REDESIGN TO MORE APPROPRIATELY PLACE THE NEW
09:00:41 TOWER ON THE EXISTING SITE WITH TOWER DISTANCES TO
09:00:45 APPROXIMATE THE CURRENT CHARACTER OF BAYSHORE, RANGE OF
09:00:50 90 TO 95 FEET AND AS GOOD NEIGHBORS, PLACE THE TOWER ON
09:00:53 THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW VIEWS OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA FROM THE
09:00:55 STOVALL'S NORTHEASTERN WINDOWS.
09:00:58 CURRENTLY, THE WAY THE STRUCTURE IS PLACED, THE ONLY VIEW
09:01:01 WE HAVE IS FROM OUR BALCONY.
09:01:03 ALL OF THE OTHER WINDOWS ARE COMPLETELY BLOCKED.
09:01:05 SO WE THINK IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER TO THE CURRENT
09:01:09 STRUCTURE, AND WE THINK IT'S UNNEIGHBORLY.
09:01:11 I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO GEORGE FOR THE
09:01:13 REMAINDER OF THE PRESENTATION, AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH
09:01:17 FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
09:01:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:01:19 GO AHEAD, MR. VAKA.
09:01:22 >> I STARTED TALKING ABOUT WAIVERS.
09:01:25 SINCE THE REZONING IS DEPENDENT ON THE WAIVERS, WHEN
09:01:29 CONSIDERING THE WAIVER, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S UP TO THE
09:01:32 PETITIONERS TO HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IF GRANTED IT
09:01:37 WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF
09:01:40 OTHERS WHO WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE ACCOMMODATION OF THE
09:01:46 WAIVER.
09:01:46 THE RESPONSE THAT THEY GAVE TO YOU, THE SUPPLEMENTAL
09:01:48 RESPONSE, DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY EVIDENCE, MUCH LESS
09:01:51 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT THE STOVALL
09:01:55 WILL NOT BE INJURED OR OUR RIGHTS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY
09:01:58 INTERFERED WITH BY THE PLACEMENT OF THAT BUILDING.
09:02:00 VIDEO TWO, PLEASE, WHICH IS THE 42-FOOT FROM THE STOVALL,
09:02:05 PLEASE?
09:02:08 THIS IS ANOTHER DRONE VIDEO.
09:02:09 THIS IS SHOT FROM -- I MADE A MISTAKE.
09:02:11 I THOUGHT IT WAS 42.
09:02:13 IT'S 43 FEET.
09:02:14 BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEIR RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE
09:02:19 LOOKING INTO.
09:02:20 AND IF YOU PAY CLOSE ATTENTION AS YOU'RE SEEING THE
09:02:24 VIDEOS, I HAD GIVEN THE RESIDENTS A HEADS UP AND SAID,
09:02:28 HEY, IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR UNIT TO BE LOOKED INTO,
09:02:32 PLEASE CLOSE YOUR DRAPES.
09:02:34 BUT YOU CAN SEE, FOR INSTANCE, IN THAT PICTURE RIGHT
09:02:36 THERE, THE DRAPES ARE OPEN, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE
09:02:41 INTO THE UNIT.
09:02:42 LET'S GO DO THE THIRD ONE, WHICH IS THE SAME VIDEO BUT
09:02:45 SHOT ON THE WAY DOWN.
09:02:47 PLEASE.
09:02:48 NOW, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION FROM RELATED OR
09:03:06 ANY VIEWS FROM THEIR BUILDINGS LOOKING SOUTH.
09:03:08 I SUGGEST TO YOU THERE IS A VERY GOOD REASON FOR THAT,
09:03:11 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO DEALT WITH.
09:03:17 MR. FORT SAID THAT THE DESIGN OF HIS BUILDING WOULD NOT
09:03:20 IMPACT ON PRIVACY.
09:03:21 I FRANKLY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, HE'S THE EXPERT, BUT I
09:03:25 HAVE A HARD TIME DISBELIEVING WHAT MY OWN EYES SHOW.
09:03:30 HERE WE ARE.
09:03:30 I BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE FIFTH FLOOR, AND YOU CAN CLEARLY
09:03:36 SEE RIGHT INSIDE THE UNIT.
09:03:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:03:40 YOU'VE REACHED THE TIME LIMIT.
09:03:45 >> OKAY.
09:03:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:03:46 >> THANK YOU.
09:03:46 COULD I ASK COUNCIL FOR JUST ANOTHER MINUTE IN LIGHT OF
09:03:53 THE LENGTH OF THE PETITIONER'S PRESENTATION?
09:03:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW DO YOU FEEL
09:04:00 ABOUT THAT?
09:04:01 ONE MORE MINUTE.
09:04:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'D GIVE IT TO HIM, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:04:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO I HAVE A SECOND?
09:04:08 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:04:09 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO GIVING ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE, A
09:04:13 STRICT EXTRA MINUTE?
09:04:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY, I WANT TO HEAR IF THE
09:04:19 PETITIONER WISHES TO SPEAK TO THAT -- CERTAINLY CAN
09:04:27 AFFECT THEIR TIME DURING REBUTTAL.
09:04:29 I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO OBJECTION TO THE
09:04:31 REQUEST.
09:04:32 >>TRUETT GARDNER: TRUETT GARDNER.
09:04:33 WE HAVE NO PROBLEM GRANTING AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE TO MR.
09:04:37 VAKA.
09:04:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HEARING NO OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS
09:04:39 CONSENT, WE GO WITH ANOTHER MINUTE.
09:04:41 YOU MAY BEGIN, SIR.
09:04:44 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:44 I THINK EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL KNOWS BAYSHORE AND ITS
09:04:49 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE TO TAMPA.
09:04:52 THE HOMES AND THE CONDOMINIUMS HAVE BEEN COMPATIBLE FOR
09:04:57 ALMOST THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, WHICH IS
09:05:01 NEARLY 40 YEARS.
09:05:03 WE HAVE NO OTHER HIGH-RISE TOWERS ON BAYSHORE THAT ARE SO
09:05:07 CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER.
09:05:08 WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER HIGH-RISE TOWERS THAT ARE SO
09:05:12 CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER ANYWHERE IN TAMPA.
09:05:14 THERE ARE MANY PLACES YOU CAN COMPARE, MIAMI BEING A
09:05:19 PRIME EXAMPLE, WHERE LOCATION OF TOWERS ARE AT A GREATER
09:05:24 DENSITY THAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN IN TAMPA.
09:05:28 THAT RESULTS IN A DIFFERENT FEEL.
09:05:30 THAT DENSITY RESULTS IN A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:05:33 HAVING THAT DENSITY ON BAYSHORE WOULD ALTER BAYSHORE'S
09:05:39 UNIQUE STYLE AND FEELING.
09:05:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:05:42 >> THANK YOU.
09:05:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:05:45 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
09:05:51 ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:05:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTIONS FOR MR. VAKA.
09:06:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A QUESTION OF MR. VAKA.
09:06:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, QUESTIONS TO MR.
09:06:04 VAKA.
09:06:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VAKA IS SPEAKING FOR THE ASSOCIATION
09:06:08 AT THE STOVALL.
09:06:09 IS THAT CORRECT?
09:06:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:06:12 >> YES, SIR.
09:06:12 SORRY, I WAS TRYING TO GET MY WEB CAM BACK ON.
09:06:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THE ONLY REAL
09:06:20 OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSAL IS THE DISTANCE OF YOUR
09:06:23 CONDOMINIUM TO A PROPOSED NEW BUILDING.
09:06:26 IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
09:06:27 >> THAT IS OUR PRIMARY OBJECTION, YES, SIR.
09:06:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PRIMARY OBJECTION, CORRECT?
09:06:32 >> YES, SIR.
09:06:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:06:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:06:36 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
09:06:40 IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:06:42 MR. SHELBY, I HEARD THAT THERE WAS ONE PERSON AT THE
09:06:49 CONVENTION CENTER.
09:06:50 CAN WE GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY SINCE IT'S JUST ONE?
09:06:52 ALL RIGHT.
09:06:53 AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE HAVE ONE PERSON, I BELIEVE.
09:06:56 >> THIS IS AILEEN ROSARIO WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT,
09:07:00 AND I HAVE ONE PERSON HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS
09:07:02 ITEM.
09:07:03 THANK YOU.
09:07:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
09:07:07 VERY GOOD.
09:07:08 THE INDIVIDUAL, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOU
09:07:10 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:07:12 >> HI.
09:07:12 MY NAME IS FRANK ROBASKI.
09:07:18 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF BAYSHORE GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD
09:07:20 ASSOCIATION.
09:07:20 FOR THE PAST MONTHS, I HAVE FIELDED MANY CALLS FROM THE
09:07:28 NEIGHBORHOOD, FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE BEGINNING TO
09:07:32 PICK UP ON THE NEWS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
09:07:36 THEY'VE ASKED FOR A LOT OF INFORMATION.
09:07:37 THEY VOICED A LOT OF CONCERNS.
09:07:39 KEYWORD IN MY STATEMENT IS "BEGINNING."
09:07:43 YOU'VE BEEN TOLD WIDESPREAD COMMUNICATION AND SUPPORT.
09:07:49 I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE THERE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BY A
09:07:52 LONG SHOT.
09:07:53 IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS VERY LITTLE
09:07:57 OF THIS PROJECT AND ITS SIX-YEAR IMPACT.
09:08:02 COMMUNICATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY DIFFICULT.
09:08:04 OUT OF SEVERAL THOUSAND RESIDENTS, OUR MAILING LIST IS
09:08:09 JUST 200.
09:08:11 OUT OF THAT 200, ONLY 25 PEOPLE WERE ON THE ZOOM CALL
09:08:16 THAT RELATED HAD WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:08:19 AND A FIFTH OF THEM WERE THE PR PEOPLE OF THE RELATED
09:08:23 GROUP ITSELF.
09:08:24 THE TRUTH IS WE JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO EVEN BE
09:08:27 ABLE TO REACH THE RESIDENTS.
09:08:29 DON'T HAVE THE TIME, MONEY, LOBBYISTS AND ATTORNEYS THAT
09:08:33 WE'RE UP AGAINST ON THE OTHER SIDE.
09:08:35 WE HAVE DAY JOBS.
09:08:37 SO THIS IS NOT EXACTLY A FAIR FIGHT.
09:08:39 WHAT WE HAVE IS A GOOD COUNCILMAN AND HOPEFULLY FULL
09:08:43 COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT'S TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT
09:08:46 THOSE ON THIS SIDE NEED A BETTER VOICE FOR SUCH A
09:08:51 HIGH-IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
09:08:52 AS MR. VAKA HAD SAID, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT OPPOSED TO
09:08:56 THE PROGRESS EITHER.
09:08:58 WE'RE IN FAVOR OF CAREFUL, FULLY VETTED PROGRESS WITH
09:09:03 THOROUGH INPUT FROM THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED THE MOST.
09:09:06 WE ASK FOR TIME.
09:09:10 WE ASK FOR BETTER COMMUNICATION OF REAL FORUMS WITH TRUE
09:09:14 DISCUSSION AND COMPROMISE.
09:09:18 THEREFORE, FOR THE MOMENT, WE ASK THAT WE BE ABLE TO
09:09:23 REVISIT A VERY AGGRESSIVE PLAN THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT A
09:09:26 LOT OF PEOPLE IN VERY MAJOR WAYS.
09:09:29 IT IS A SIX-YEAR PROJECT.
09:09:30 WE'VE LOST FRED BALL PARK TO A GREAT DEGREE FROM THE
09:09:34 BUILDING OF THE SANCTUARY, AND IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE WHAT
09:09:38 TAKES PLACE OVER THESE COMING SIX YEARS ON SUCH A MAJOR,
09:09:45 MAJOR PROJECT.
09:09:46 PLEASE GIVE US BETTER CONSIDERATION, MORE TIME TO VOICE
09:09:51 OUR OPINIONS FROM THOSE AFFECTED THE MOST.
09:09:53 THANK YOU.
09:09:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY SIR, JUST TO CONFIRM FOR THE
09:09:57 RECORD, SIR, YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:09:59 IT WAS GARBLED WHEN I HEARD.
09:10:01 >> YES.
09:10:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:10:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:10:07 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER OR WAS
09:10:10 THAT IT?
09:10:12 >> THAT'S IT.
09:10:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:10:14 MADAM CLERK, WE HAVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
09:10:19 DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER AS TO HOW MANY ARE LOGGED IN AND
09:10:23 REGISTERED AND READY TO GO?
09:10:25 >>THE CLERK: I STILL HAVE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 27 THAT ARE
09:10:28 STILL LOGGED ON.
09:10:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:10:31 VERY GOOD.
09:10:31 WE WILL BEGIN.
09:10:32 I WILL KEEP TIME, AS I HAVE BEEN KEEPING TIME.
09:10:36 THREE MINUTES FOR EACH SPEAKER.
09:10:38 I ASK THAT THEY PLEASE STATE THEIR NAME.
09:10:41 OF COURSE, WE HAVE THEM REGISTERED BUT JUST FOR THE
09:10:44 RECORD.
09:10:44 WHEN YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN, LET'S GO.
09:10:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A REMINDER
09:10:51 TO THOSE WHO ARE LOGGED IN AND REGISTERED, THAT IF IT IS
09:10:56 YOUR INTENTION TO NOT SPEAK, THE ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF
09:11:00 WATCHING THIS ARE AVAILABLE ON SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER, AND
09:11:05 ON THE CITY CHANNEL ON TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM.
09:11:10 AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS HEARING, IF IT
09:11:14 IS YOUR INTENTION TO NOT SPEAK AND YOU HAVE THAT
09:11:17 OPPORTUNITY, TO PLEASE LOG OUT OF THIS PLATFORM SO IT
09:11:20 WILL MOVE THINGS ALONG A LOT QUICKER AND I WON'T HAVE TO
09:11:23 SAY THIS AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:11:25 THANK YOU.
09:11:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:11:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, SHOULD WE REMIND PEOPLE,
09:11:32 TRY NOT TO BE REDUNDANT, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL
09:11:35 THREE OF THEIR MINUTES.
09:11:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
09:11:38 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:11:39 ALL RIGHT.
09:11:39 LET'S BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:11:40 >>THE CLERK: I PULLED FIVE PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS OVER.
09:11:44 THAT IS DIPA SHAH.
09:11:47 ALISON DATE.
09:11:48 CARTER McCAIN, AND CESAR HERNANDEZ, IF YOU COULD UNMUTE
09:11:53 YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS.
09:12:13 >> THIS IS CARTER McCAIN, ONE OF THE FIVE.
09:12:18 >> THIS IS DIPA SHAH.
09:12:20 >> ALISON DATE.
09:12:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DIPA, DO YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON?
09:12:25 >> I THOUGHT I DID.
09:12:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T SEE YOU YET.
09:12:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE MR. DIPA.
09:12:32 I DON'T SEE MR. McCAIN.
09:12:33 I SEE A PORTION OF A DESKTOP.
09:12:37 WE DON'T SEE YOU.
09:12:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN THE CAMERA AROUND.
09:12:44 WE SEE ALISON.
09:12:49 WE DO NOT SEE CARTER.
09:12:50 YOUR CAMERA IS ON, BUT IT'S POINTING AT THE COMPUTER
09:12:53 SCREEN.
09:12:54 WE SEE CESAR.
09:13:01 >> I'M LETTING MY TECHNOLAWYER WIFE FIGURE IT OUT.
09:13:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU JUST HAVE TO TURN THE CAMERA
09:13:07 AROUND.
09:13:07 DIPA, WE SEE YOU.
09:13:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN SWEAR IN THE THREE
09:13:17 AND LET MR. McCAIN WORK ON HIS.
09:13:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. McCAIN, YOU HAVE TO TURN THE
09:13:22 CAMERA TOWARDS YOU, BECAUSE IT'S ON.
09:13:24 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
09:13:36 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WOULD TELL THE TRUTH,
09:13:39 THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:13:42 >> DO I.
09:13:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:13:44 WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN.
09:13:47 I'M GOING IN ORDER OF WHAT I SEE HERE.
09:13:50 CESAR HERNANDEZ FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.
09:13:52 GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:13:54 >> YES, SIR, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:13:56 FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CESAR HERNANDEZ.
09:13:59 915 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
09:14:04 I AM ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA BAY LATIN CHAMBER OF
09:14:07 COMMERCE.
09:14:08 AND I'M HERE TO STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
09:14:13 I STRONGLY FEEL THAT TAMPA IS A CITY ON THE RISE.
09:14:16 IT WOULD REALLY POSITION THE CITY AS A FORWARD-THINKING
09:14:20 CITY AND ALSO IT'S A GAME-CHANGER FOR THE ECONOMIC
09:14:25 DEVELOPMENT IN AND AROUND THE AREA, NOT JUST WITHIN THE
09:14:29 CITY LIMITS, BUT IN GENERAL WITHIN THE REGION.
09:14:34 I LOVE THIS CITY, AND I THINK FOR US TO BE COMPETITIVE,
09:14:37 WE HAVE TO COMPETE GLOBALLY, AND IT'S TIME FOR US NOT TO
09:14:41 BE COMPARED WITH THE LIKES OF SHEBOYGAN OR EVEN
09:14:46 SMALLER-TIER CITIES, BUT COMPETING WITH THE SINGAPORE,
09:14:52 LONDON AND NEW YORKS OF THE WORLD.
09:14:54 I BELIEVE HAVING A PARTNERSHIP WITH COMPANIES LIKE THE
09:14:56 RELATED GROUP AND A BRAND LIKE RITZ CARLSON WITHIN --
09:15:01 RITZ-CARLTON WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS IS A TREMENDOUS WIN
09:15:04 FOR US.
09:15:04 WE JUST DELIVERED A STANLEY CUP.
09:15:06 WE'RE KNOWN AS CITY OF CHAMPIONS.
09:15:09 WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A CITY COUNCIL DELIVER A
09:15:12 WIN FOR US HERE AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
09:15:15 THANK YOU.
09:15:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:16 MR. McCAIN.
09:15:19 >> HELLO.
09:15:19 I'M CARTER McCAIN.
09:15:20 MY WIFE AND I LIVE APPROXIMATELY 300 YARDS DUE NORTH OF
09:15:25 THE PROJECT.
09:15:26 WE'RE BOTH ATTORNEYS.
09:15:27 I'VE BEEN A LAND USE ATTORNEY HERE IN TAMPA FOR A LITTLE
09:15:30 OVER 32 YEARS, AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT
09:15:34 OF THE PROJECT AS A NEIGHBOR.
09:15:36 ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I RESPECT THE COMMENTS OF MR.
09:15:40 RABOWSKI.
09:15:43 I WAS A PARTICIPANT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONFERENCE CALL
09:15:46 APPROXIMATELY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO, WHICH I ASKED TO
09:15:48 TAKE ALL THE QUESTIONS, ALL THE COMMENTS, AND I WOULD GO
09:15:50 BACK TO THE DEVELOPER AND SEE WHAT ANSWERS I COULD GET.
09:15:53 NOT A SINGLE QUESTION WAS BROUGHT BACK TO ME ABOUT THE
09:15:57 PROJECT AT THAT TIME.
09:15:59 THIS IS A WORLD-CLASS PROJECT.
09:16:01 I'VE LIVED IN TAMPA SINCE 1988 WHEN I GOT OUT OF LAW
09:16:04 SCHOOL.
09:16:05 I'VE LIVED IN THIS ZIP CODE FOR DECADES.
09:16:07 AND TO HAVE A WORLD-CLASS BRAND LIKE RITZ-CARLTON AND A
09:16:10 WORLD-CLASS DEVELOPER THAT WE HAVE WILL BE GREAT FOR THE
09:16:13 CITY OF TAMPA.
09:16:14 AS I THINK EVERYONE SAID TONIGHT, THE BAY OAKS PROJECT IS
09:16:18 GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED.
09:16:20 IT IS AT THE END OF ITS NATURAL LIFE SPAN, AND THIS IS A
09:16:24 GREAT DESIGN.
09:16:25 I RESPECT THE COMMENTS FROM MR. VAKA WHO I ALSO KNOW
09:16:29 PERSONALLY AND MY WIFE AND I ALSO LOOKED AT BUYING A
09:16:32 PLACE IN THAT VERY DEVELOPMENT.
09:16:34 BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TAMPA NEEDS TO HAVE.
09:16:37 WE DON'T HAVE ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT.
09:16:41 WE GO FROM 175 TO 180.
09:16:44 THE TRAFFIC STUDIES SHOW LESS TRAFFIC.
09:16:48 YOU HAVE NATURAL COMPATIBILITY WITH TWO MULTIFAMILY
09:16:50 DEVELOPMENTS ON EACH SIDE OF THIS, BORDERED BY THE
09:16:54 CROSSTOWN AND BAYSHORE.
09:16:56 IT JUST MAKES SENSE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE
09:16:58 INVOLVED.
09:16:58 SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR
09:17:01 TIME TO THIS LATE EVENING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW
09:17:04 IMPORTANT THIS IS TO TAKE TAMPA TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
09:17:07 FROM OUR NEIGHBORS, WHO WE TALKED TO IN FRED BALL PARK ON
09:17:11 A DAILY BASIS AND THE MANY PEOPLE WE TALK WITH AROUND THE
09:17:14 NEIGHBORHOOD, I'VE ONLY HAD ONE VERBAL OBJECTION THAT
09:17:17 HAVE COME TO ME IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS.
09:17:20 EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN EITHER NEUTRAL OR SUPPORTIVE, AND
09:17:23 I WOULD REQUEST YOU CONSIDER THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS
09:17:26 PROJECT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA'S FUTURE.
09:17:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:17:31 ALL RIGHT.
09:17:35 ALISON DATE, YOU ARE NEXT.
09:17:38 >> GOOD EVENING.
09:17:38 I'M ALISON DATE.
09:17:40 2403 WEST CHICAGO, 33629.
09:17:42 I'M HERE REPRESENTING -- I'M A PART OF THE BAYSHORE
09:17:46 GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALSO SIERRA CLUB.
09:17:50 I GOT QUITE INTIMATE WITH THE TREES ON THAT AREA.
09:17:54 I TOOK A LOT OF PICTURES.
09:17:56 I MEASURED ALL THE TREES, EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T QUITE SURE
09:18:00 WHAT I WAS DOING.
09:18:01 BUT I WAS PLEASED TO LEARN THE OTHER DAY FROM ONE OF THE
09:18:07 FORESTERS THAT THE -- THAT THERE'S SO MUCH INTEREST BY
09:18:13 THE GROUP, THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
09:18:17 PROTECT THE TREES.
09:18:18 BUT THE SIERRA CLUB PERSON THAT I WORKED WITH, WE WERE --
09:18:24 WE SENT IN SOME INFORMATION ABOUT SOME TREES THAT WE
09:18:28 THOUGHT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SAVED BECAUSE THEY ARE AROUND
09:18:31 THE EDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, OR THEY ARE NEAR THE TWO
09:18:37 GRAND TREES THAT WERE GOING TO BE SAVED.
09:18:39 SO WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE, AND I THINK I GAVE THEM TO
09:18:44 THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:18:46 BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GIVE THEM TO THE DEVELOPERS.
09:18:50 AND THERE'S -- AND WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM THE ARBORIST.
09:18:54 BUT THEY HAD A TREE MAP, A SURVEY OF ALL THE TREES, AND
09:18:58 SO WE USED THAT, AND THE TREES THAT WE SUGGESTED THAT THE
09:19:05 DEVELOPER TRY TO PRESERVE WERE AROUND THE EDGES OR NEAR
09:19:10 THE FRONT OR THE BACK.
09:19:12 OR NEAR THE GRAND TREES.
09:19:18 SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH ME SAYING THE NUMBER OF THE
09:19:21 TREES OR IF SOMEBODY HAS THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY COULD
09:19:26 SHARE.
09:19:27 DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, OR SHOULD I
09:19:29 LIST THE TREES?
09:19:30 I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU TIME.
09:19:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE AND FIVE
09:19:37 SECONDS IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD.
09:19:38 >> ONE OF THE TREES, NUMBER 42, NEAR THE BORDER OF THE
09:19:41 BACK ENTRANCE NEAR MacDILL.
09:19:43 THE OTHER TREE IS NUMBER 400, WHICH IS RIGHT NEAR THE
09:19:54 GRAND TREE, WHICH IS THE GRAND TREE 55.
09:19:58 AND THERE ARE A FEW ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY BORDER,
09:20:03 65, 74, AND 102.
09:20:06 AND NEAR BAYSHORE, THERE'S TREE NUMBER 132, WHICH IS
09:20:11 QUITE NEAR THE GRAND OAK -- OR GRAND LAUREL THAT'S 124.
09:20:19 I ALSO HAD -- BUT IT LOOKED LIKE SOME OF THOSE WERE
09:20:24 ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SAVED.
09:20:25 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE OR NOT.
09:20:26 THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES, WE NEED A LOT OF TREES, SO
09:20:32 THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING SO MANY IN YOUR DESIGN.
09:20:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:37 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:38 IF YOU CAN SAVE ANY OF THOSE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
09:20:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
09:20:44 DIPA SHAH.
09:20:45 >> HI.
09:20:46 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR THE
09:20:49 WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
09:20:51 I AM NEW TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:20:52 I'M A -- WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT ADDRESS YOU WANT TO GO
09:20:55 WITH, 2900 WEST BAY TO BAY OR 3001 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
09:21:00 LIKE I SAID, I'M NEW.
09:21:03 WE JUST MOVED IN IN JUNE.
09:21:06 SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS PRESENTATION.
09:21:09 I HAD NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE
09:21:12 RELATED GROUP DUE TO OTHER COVID CHALLENGES.
09:21:16 I REALLY DO APPRECIATE AND VALUE WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS FOR
09:21:22 SANTIAGO.
09:21:24 THE ROAD IS -- IT'S DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW TO BE A
09:21:29 PEDESTRIAN ON THAT ROAD.
09:21:30 AND THE SIDEWALKS AND THE TREES WILL REALLY MAKE IT MUCH
09:21:33 MORE BEAUTIFUL.
09:21:34 I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT -- I'M NOT SURE WHERE I LIE
09:21:41 ON THE -- AM I FOR IT OR AGAINST IT BECAUSE THERE ARE
09:21:46 GOING TO BE CERTAIN CHALLENGES AS A HOMEOWNER.
09:21:49 EVERYTHING FROM VIEWS AS WELL AS ACCESS FOR INGRESS AND
09:21:54 EGRESS, WHICH SEEMS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
09:21:57 AND THEN I ENCOURAGE THE RELATED GROUP TO CONTINUE
09:22:04 KEEPING THE COMMUNITY UP TO DATE EAST WHAT MAY VARY FROM
09:22:09 WHAT THE PROPOSAL AND THE PLANS ARE THAT ARE BEING
09:22:12 PRESENTED TODAY.
09:22:13 I DO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO
09:22:17 THE AREA, AND JUST AS LONG AS WE'RE COOPERATIVE IN
09:22:22 WORKING THROUGH THE CHALLENGES.
09:22:24 THAT'S IT.
09:22:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:30 MADAM CLERK, THE NEXT NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
09:22:37 >>THE CLERK: YES, THE NEXT SPEAKERS WE HAVE ARE PAULA
09:22:40 WILSON.
09:22:41 NANCY WALKER.
09:22:42 SALLY DEE.
09:22:44 JOHN RANON.
09:22:47 AND DEBBIE LUNDBERG.
09:22:51 IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
09:23:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A POINT
09:23:11 OF ORDER AND JUST A QUESTION BEFORE PEOPLE START SPEAKING
09:23:15 AGAIN.
09:23:15 I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US AND FOR THE RECORD AND
09:23:20 SOME OF THE PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT IN TERMS OF TELLING WHAT
09:23:23 THEIR INVOLVEMENT IS.
09:23:25 IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR, TELL US IF YOU ARE
09:23:27 A NEIGHBOR.
09:23:28 IF YOU ARE WITH BAYSHORE GARDENS, TELL US YOU ARE
09:23:30 BAYSHORE GARDENS.
09:23:32 IF YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROJECT IN ANY WAY, I
09:23:35 THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCLOSE THAT SO THE
09:23:38 RECORD IS CLEAR SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.
09:23:40 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, MR. SHELBY.
09:23:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN GO ABOUT THAT BY READING A RULE OF
09:23:46 COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURE, THAT ALL PERSONS WHO
09:23:49 PROVIDE TESTIMONY, INFORMATION, OR OPINION REGARDING A
09:23:53 PETITION IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER PENDING BEFORE CITY
09:23:56 COUNCIL MUST DISCLOSE ANY DIRECT OR INDIRECT BUSINESS OR
09:24:00 PERSONAL INTEREST BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE PETITIONER
09:24:03 OR APPLICANT, WHICH IS REQUESTING ACTION.
09:24:06 THIS INFORMATION SHALL NOT BE USED TO DENY THE PETITION
09:24:09 OR MATTER BUT GOES TO THE WEIGHT OF THE EVIDENCE,
09:24:12 INFORMATION OR OPINION PROVIDED.
09:24:13 SO THAT IS A FAIR QUESTION TO BE ASKED IF THEY DON'T
09:24:18 IDENTIFY THAT, YOU CAN SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM THAT
09:24:21 QUESTION.
09:24:21 CERTAINLY, THEY SHOULD DISCLOSE THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE,
09:24:25 PER COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.
09:24:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
09:24:33 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, ALSO WOULD BE HELPFUL IF
09:24:35 SOMEBODY MENTIONS AN ORGANIZATION, IF THEY SAY THEY ARE
09:24:37 OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING THE ORGANIZATION OR IF THEY ARE
09:24:39 JUST A MEMBER OF IT.
09:24:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:24:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST THING, YOU BOTH RAISED GOOD
09:24:49 QUESTIONS, BUT THEY ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN DIRECT
09:24:51 TO ANY SPEAKER IF YOU NEED TO KNOW THE ANSWER.
09:24:56 CERTAINLY, IF IT'S RELEVANT TO YOUR DECISION.
09:24:59 AGAIN, YOU DON'T GO TO A BASIS TO DENY IT, BUT CERTAINLY
09:25:03 COULD GO TO THE WEIGHT YOU GIVE IT.
09:25:05 SO THANK YOU.
09:25:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:25:09 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT I HAVE SENT
09:25:13 SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR PAULA WILSON TO TURN ON HER VIDEO.
09:25:17 SHE HAS NOT DONE SO YET.
09:25:18 I ALSO PULLED ANOTHER PUBLIC SPEAKER OVER, WHICH IS CASEY
09:25:21 CATHEY.
09:25:22 AND SHE HASN'T TURNED ON HER VIDEO EITHER.
09:25:25 WE CAN PROCEED -- HOLD ON.
09:25:28 HERE IS CASEY.
09:25:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE CASEY CATHEY.
09:25:32 AND FOUR OTHERS.
09:25:36 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
09:25:38 WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
09:25:40 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE
09:25:42 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:25:45 >> I DO.
09:25:46 >> YES.
09:25:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOING TO GO IN ORDER OF HOW I SEE
09:25:49 IT ON MY GREEN.
09:25:50 MR. RANON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.
09:25:54 >> THANK YOU.
09:25:54 MY NAME IS JOHN RANON.
09:25:56 THE ADDRESS IS 2306 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, 33607. I
09:26:04 REPRESENT THE CENTRO ESPANOL OF TAMPA AS ITS PRESIDENT.
09:26:09 AND I'M HERE PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF HISTORICAL INTEREST, IF
09:26:14 YOU WILL.
09:26:16 THE PROPERTY THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS PETITION WAS THE
09:26:19 HOME OF A STATELY BUILDING WHICH HOUSED TAMPA'S FIRST
09:26:23 MODERN HOSPITAL THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED BY THE CENTRO
09:26:27 ESPANOL BETWEEN 1904 AND 1906.
09:26:30 FOR SIX DECADES IT SERVED OUR FAMILY -- OUR MEMBERS AND
09:26:34 OUR FAMILIES WITH THEIR HEALTH CARE NEEDS.
09:26:37 SADLY, THAT STRUCTURE IS NO LONGER PRESENT ON THE
09:26:42 PROPERTY, BUT AS FATE WOULD HAVE IT, ONE HISTORICAL
09:26:45 ARTIFACT SURVIVES.
09:26:49 EXCUSE ME, SURVIVED THE WRECKING BALL.
09:26:52 ORNATE FOUNTAIN THAT HOLDS SPECIAL MEMORIES FOR PEOPLE OF
09:26:57 A CERTAIN AGE, MYSELF INCLUDED.
09:27:00 WHEN WE MADE THE RELATED GROUP AWARE OF THIS, THEY
09:27:07 ENTHUSIASTICALLY EMBRACED THE IDEA OF PRESERVING THE
09:27:10 FOUNTAIN AND INCORPORATING IT INTO ITS DESIGN.
09:27:14 AS I WROTE IN MY LETTER OF SUPPORT, THE PRESERVATION OF
09:27:18 HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS MAY OCCUR MORE FREQUENTLY THAN IT
09:27:24 DOES IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S NEVER A SURE THING.
09:27:28 AND SO I AND WE, THE CENTRO ESPANOL, APPRECIATE THE
09:27:33 SPIRIT AND THE INTENT OF THE RELATED GROUP TO PRESERVE A
09:27:38 PART OF TAMPA'S STORY.
09:27:39 THANK YOU.
09:27:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:27:41 NEXT UP, DEBBIE LUNDBERG.
09:27:44 GO AHEAD.
09:27:45 >> GOOD EVENING.
09:27:47 THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
09:27:48 DEBBIE LUNDBERG.
09:27:49 4621 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD HERE IN TAMPA, 33629.
09:27:56 I'M AN INTERESTED CITIZEN WHO LIVES VERY CLOSE TO THE
09:27:59 PROPOSED PROJECT.
09:28:01 AND I GET TO TRAVEL FOR WORK AND FOR PLEASURE, AND WHAT I
09:28:07 FOUND IS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE THINK OF TAMPA AS
09:28:10 SOME PLACE NICE, BUT WE KNOW IT'S OUTSTANDING AND
09:28:14 WONDERFUL.
09:28:16 AND IF WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THE RITZ-CARLTON
09:28:18 CONDOMINIUM PROJECT, IT WILL BE PART OF ELEVATING TAMPA
09:28:22 THE WAY THAT WE KNOW IT DESERVES TO BE SEEN.
09:28:25 SO TAMPA IS A TERRIFIC COMMUNITY, YET THERE ARE SOME
09:28:28 MISSING PIECES, SO THE RITZ-CARLTON CONDOMINIUM PROJECT
09:28:32 CAN POSITION TAMPA AS A GLOBAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT
09:28:37 WE REPRESENT AND WHERE OTHERS WILL FIND IT DESIRABLE.
09:28:40 LIVING SPACE I'M SUPPORTIVE OF BECAUSE IT PUNCTUATES
09:28:45 ITEMS AND AREAS LIKE WATER STREET THAT WE KNOW ARE REALLY
09:28:49 DRIVING THE ECONOMY AND INTERESTS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
09:28:53 LIVE HERE.
09:28:54 SO I'M SURE EVERYONE ON THIS VERY LONG MEETING CAN AGREE
09:28:59 WE WANT THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST HERE IN TAMPA BECAUSE
09:29:01 WE LOVE IT HERE.
09:29:03 AND BEST AND BRIGHTEST LIKE THINGS LIKE THIS.
09:29:06 THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN A PLACE LIKE THE RITZ-CARLTON.
09:29:10 SO THIS PROJECT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BRING THE RITZ
09:29:13 BRAND HERE TO TAMPA.
09:29:15 AND IF WE REJECT IT, WE MAY BE SENDING A MESSAGE THAT
09:29:18 WE'RE NOT QUITE OPEN FOR BUSINESS THE WAY WE WANT PEOPLE
09:29:20 TO THINK WE ARE.
09:29:21 THANK YOU.
09:29:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:24 NEXT UP, NANCY WALKER.
09:29:27 >> GOOD EVENING.
09:29:27 GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:29:29 I APPRECIATE THE TIME ON WHAT WILL BE A LONG EVENING TO
09:29:32 SPEND A COUPLE OF MINUTES FROM MY THOUGHTS.
09:29:35 NANCY WALKER, 2900 WEST JULIAN STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
09:29:39 33629.
09:29:41 IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL'S REQUEST, I DO OWN A MARKETING
09:29:47 FIRM, AND I AM EMPLOYED, DIRECTLY EMPLOYED WORKING WITH
09:29:52 THE RELATED GROUP ON THIS PROJECT.
09:29:55 I ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FOR
09:29:59 30 YEARS IN THE TAMPA AREA, AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO
09:30:03 WORK WITH GOOD AND BAD DEVELOPERS, AND I WANTED TO
09:30:08 EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE
09:30:12 RELATED GROUP.
09:30:13 I'VE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR 30 YEARS, APPROXIMATELY A MILE
09:30:16 FROM THE SITE IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
09:30:18 MY HUSBAND AND I RECENTLY DOWNSIZED FROM THAT HOME, AND
09:30:22 NOT WANTING TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE MOVED INTO THE
09:30:24 VIRAGE CONDOMINIUM ON BAYSHORE JUST SOUTH OF THE SITE.
09:30:27 WHAT I'VE COME TO APPRECIATE EVEN MORE, AS I ENJOY
09:30:30 BAYSHORE IS MY FRONT DOOR AND FROM MY BALCONY AS THIS
09:30:33 ICONIC BOULEVARD IS NOT ONLY ALIVE AND SPECTACULAR WHEN
09:30:36 YOU'RE ON IT, BUT OFFERS THE MOST MAGNIFICENT EXAMPLE OF
09:30:40 TAMPA BAY AT ITS FINEST AT EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY AND
09:30:43 NIGHT.
09:30:44 AND I JUST REALLY COME TO APPRECIATE THAT THE BAYSHORE
09:30:47 NOW IS REALLY NOT JUST FOR THOSE OF US WHO CALL IT HOME
09:30:51 AND HAVE AN ADDRESS ON IT, BUT THAT IT REALLY BELONGS TO
09:30:53 EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:30:55 AND THE APPRECIATION OF WHAT VALUE BAYSHORE BRINGS TO OUR
09:30:58 CITY AND FOR THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON
09:31:01 IT AND FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT TO MOVE
09:31:04 FORWARD IS EVEN MORE PARAMOUNT BECAUSE IT IS SUCH AN
09:31:07 ICONIC STREET.
09:31:08 I THINK WITH THIS OWNERSHIP THAT WE ALSO INHERIT THE
09:31:13 RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE THAT IT IS CARED FOR, VALUED AND
09:31:16 SUPPORTED BY ALL THAT IT'S MEANT TO BE FOR THE BETTERMENT
09:31:18 OF ALL IN TAMPA.
09:31:19 AND SIMPLY IS NOT INTENDED TO BE WHOLLY OWNED BY THOSE OF
09:31:22 US WHO LIVE ON ITS EDGE.
09:31:24 I BELIEVE WE'RE BEYOND FORTUNATE THAT BAY OAKS PROPERTY
09:31:26 WAS PURCHASED BY THE RELATED GROUP.
09:31:29 AS MANY OF YOU HAVE SAID, THEY ARE AN EXAMPLE OF
09:31:32 RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR STATE AND WITHIN OUR
09:31:34 GREAT CITY, HAS BROUGHT IMPROVEMENT TO QUALITY OF LIFE
09:31:36 WITH EACH RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT TO
09:31:38 LIFE.
09:31:39 AND I BELIEVE THE THOUGHTFUL REDEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN AND
09:31:42 THE DESIGN THAT YOU'RE EVALUATING TONIGHT IS ONE OF THE
09:31:45 MOST IMPRESSIVE REPRESENTATIONS OF THEIR TALENT AND THE
09:31:49 WORLD-CLASS TEAM THAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE PROJECT.
09:31:51 THIS PROPERTY WILL BE COBRANDED WITH ONE OF THE MOST
09:31:55 GLOBALLY RECOGNIZED QUALITY BRANDS KNOWN WILL PROVIDE
09:31:57 TAMPA WITH ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE REPRESENTATIVE
09:32:00 JEWELS IN OUR CITY.
09:32:01 AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER LOCATION FOR IT TO RISE.
09:32:05 SO EVEN THOUGH THE OPPOSITION DEMONSTRATES WHAT I BELIEVE
09:32:09 IS A VERY REAL CONCERN, I BELIEVE IN THE SCHEME OF
09:32:13 THINGS, THAT IT IS IN SOME REGARDS A NARROW POINT OF VIEW
09:32:16 FOR ALL THAT THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT OFFERS TO THE CITY.
09:32:20 AND THAT THEY ALSO, AS A MINORITY OF THE STEWARDS, WE'RE
09:32:27 ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE BOULEVARD.
09:32:30 SO I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES TO THE PROJECT AND TO ALLOW OUR
09:32:32 ICONIC BAYSHORE TO CONTINUE TO BE ALL THAT IT CAN AND ALL
09:32:36 THAT IT SHOULD BE.
09:32:37 THANK YOU.
09:32:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:32:38 SALLY DEE.
09:32:42 YOU'RE MUTED.
09:32:46 SALLY DEE IS MUTED.
09:32:57 >>THE CLERK: SALLY, CLICK ON YOUR MIKE AND UNMUTE
09:32:59 YOURSELF.
09:33:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:33:10 WE'LL GIVE IT A MOMENT.
09:33:11 WE'LL GO TO CASEY CATHEY, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO
09:33:15 SALLY.
09:33:16 CASEY, GO AHEAD.
09:33:17 >> HI.
09:33:18 I'M CASEY CATHEY.
09:33:19 I LIVE AT 3106 WEST DUNWOODIE.
09:33:21 SO RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT.
09:33:24 I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GROW UP RIGHT HERE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
09:33:27 IN FACT, I WENT TO SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SITE
09:33:30 OF THIS PROPOSED BUILDING.
09:33:31 BUT THEN I LEFT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
09:33:34 AND DURING THAT TIME I LIVED IN SEVERAL MAJOR RURAL
09:33:37 CAPITALS.
09:33:38 THEN I WAS REALLY DOUBLY LUCKY AND I WAS ABLE TO COME
09:33:41 BACK.
09:33:41 AND I AM SO PROUD OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED IN
09:33:44 TAMPA AND THE GROWTH THAT I'VE WATCHED HAPPEN AS WE'RE
09:33:47 GOING FROM A TOWN TO A FORWARD-LOOKING REAL CITY.
09:33:49 AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A KEY PIECE IN BECOMING THAT
09:33:55 WORLD-CLASS CITY.
09:33:56 THIS E. DO, ITS VISION, AND ITS ECONOMIC IMPACT WILL
09:33:59 ATTRACT A WORLDWIDE AUDIENCE.
09:34:01 AND THAT MEANS A DIVERSE POPULATION.
09:34:04 AND THOSE ARE THE KIND OF RESOURCES WE WANT TO OFFER OUR
09:34:07 CITIZENS.
09:34:08 I'M PARTICULARLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ART STRATEGY THAT
09:34:10 THIS DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IS GOING TO INCORPORATE IN THIS
09:34:13 PROJECT, AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES.
09:34:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:34:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:34:16 SALLY, HAVE YOU UNMUTED YOURSELF?
09:34:19 >> GOT IT.
09:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:34:21 GO AHEAD.
09:34:22 >> HI.
09:34:22 I'M SALLY DEE.
09:34:23 I LIVE AT 1803 WEST HILLS AVENUE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA,
09:34:27 33606.
09:34:29 MY OFFICE IS AT 3105 WEST GRENADA STREET, 33629 WHICH IS
09:34:34 JUST A STONE'S THROW PRETTY MUCH FROM THE SITE DEPENDING
09:34:38 ON WHOSE ARM IT IS.
09:34:41 ANYWAY, I THINK THAT THE RELATED GROUP HAS PROPOSED A
09:34:45 REALLY INTERESTING AND EXCITING PROJECT FOR OUR TOWN.
09:34:48 OBVIOUSLY, WITH A BRAND LIKE THE RITZ, IT BRINGS A
09:34:50 CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PRESTIGE TO TAMPA, AND I THINK THAT
09:34:56 HELPS TAMPA'S BRAND OVERALL AS WELL.
09:34:59 WHILE I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS,
09:35:02 I MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IT'S HARD -- WE'RE A
09:35:06 CITY, WE'RE AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO LIVE, ESPECIALLY NOW
09:35:09 WITH COVID, PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN MORE RESIDENTIAL
09:35:11 CITIES LIKE OURS.
09:35:13 AND WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER.
09:35:15 ANOTHER THOUGHT IS THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY HURT THE TAX
09:35:18 BASE EITHER HAVING A RITZ-CARLTON AND THE MONEY THAT CAN
09:35:21 COME IN FROM PROPERTY TAXES.
09:35:23 I THINK IT IS A WIN-WIN FOR THE CITY, AND I THINK IT'S IN
09:35:28 LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD RIGHT
09:35:30 NOW.
09:35:30 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
09:35:32 THANK YOU.
09:35:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:35:34 ALL RIGHT.
09:35:35 NEXT SELECTION OF SPEAKERS.
09:35:39 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SELECTION WE HAVE IS ANN LANGFORD
09:35:44 -- ANNE LANGFORD, MICHELLE REYES, HENDERSON, EVERETT,
09:35:51 MICKEY JACOB AND DR. JODI JOHNSON.
09:35:54 IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
09:36:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE FOUR PEOPLE ON MY SCREEN.
09:36:11 WE WILL BEGIN WITH DR. JOHNSON -- WAIT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
09:36:17 RIGHT HANDS AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES.
09:36:21 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE
09:36:24 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:36:26 >> I WILL.
09:36:27 >> YES.
09:36:28 >> THANK YOU.
09:36:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:36:29 DR. JOHNSON, YOU ARE FIRST.
09:36:31 GO AHEAD.
09:36:32 >> HELLO, EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL.
09:36:35 I'M DR. JODI JOHNSON.
09:36:38 2906 SPANISH CIRCLE, APARTMENT 102, LIVE FROM BAY OAKS,
09:36:41 THE PROPERTY UP FOR DEMOLITION.
09:36:43 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FEEL ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE
09:36:46 FIRST ESSENTIAL STRATEGY, THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
09:36:50 CITY COUNCIL IS THE PROTECTION OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE
09:36:54 CITY.
09:36:55 RELATED SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT TELLING A STORY WITH THIS
09:36:58 DEVELOPMENT, BUT LET ME TELL YOU THE MOST IMPORTANT STORY
09:37:00 ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
09:37:01 IT IS THE ONLY PROJECT I KNOW OF IN THIS LOCAL AREA THAT
09:37:04 WILL INVOLVE THE ACTIVE DISPLACEMENT OF LARGE NUMBERS OF
09:37:08 RESIDENTS.
09:37:08 NOBODY HAS MENTIONED THAT SO FAR.
09:37:10 I DO NOT KNOW HOW -- A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO MOVE
09:37:15 FROM THIS AREA.
09:37:16 SO DESPITE THAT TALK OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH FROM RELATED
09:37:19 EARLIER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION, I HAD TO CONTACT RELATED
09:37:22 TO DO OUTREACH.
09:37:23 MY FAMILY AND OTHER FAMILIES HEARD NOTHING FROM THEM, AND
09:37:26 THAT WAS REFLECTED IN WHAT -- SAID EARLIER ON.
09:37:31 HAVEN'T HAD NO REAL CONTACT WITH THESE PEOPLE,
09:37:33 UNFORTUNATELY.
09:37:33 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MEANWHILE, MENTIONS SEVERAL
09:37:37 POINTS.
09:37:38 ONE OF THE FOCUS OF SOUTH TAMPA IS THE MAINTAINING OF
09:37:41 NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY.
09:37:41 I WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MAINTAIN
09:37:43 NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY.
09:37:44 AND, IN FACT, IT BECOMES DISPLACEMENT AND
09:37:46 HYPERGENTRIFICATION.
09:37:48 IT GOES FROM $1,000 A MONTH APARTMENTS AND UP A LITTLE
09:37:52 BIT, TO 1.7 TO $5 MILLION CONDOS.
09:37:55 THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
09:37:58 WHENEVER IT COMES TO MAINTAINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
09:38:01 WITHIN THE CITY.
09:38:02 ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT POINT I WANT TO MAKE HERE
09:38:06 QUICKLY IS GIVEN SOUTH TAMPA PROPERTY PRICES, DISPLACED
09:38:10 FROM THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY WILL BE DISPLACED FROM THEIR
09:38:12 SCHOOL ZONES AS WELL.
09:38:14 THAT'S HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL.
09:38:16 WHENEVER I ASK THEM TO DO A DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY OF THE
09:38:20 POSSIBLE EFFECTS ON THE SCHOOLCHILDREN, THEY SAID IT WAS
09:38:22 -- THE CITY COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT
09:38:24 DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY.
09:38:25 I ENCOURAGE TO YOU COMMISSION THAT STUDY IMMEDIATELY AND
09:38:29 DELAY THIS DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE HARM IS MORE PRECISELY
09:38:32 DETAILED AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
09:38:34 THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
09:38:35 I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE RITZ.
09:38:36 I CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE RIGHT NOW.
09:38:39 SO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THERE'S NO
09:38:42 CAPACITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT EITHER.
09:38:43 IT'S CLEARLY IN THE FILINGS I'VE READ, THE FILINGS SAID
09:38:47 THERE'S NO CAPACITY.
09:38:48 IT'S THE PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHILDREN FROM HERE TO REPLACE
09:38:52 WITH RICHER ONES AT ROOSEVELT.
09:38:54 I DON'T KNOW.
09:38:55 I HAVE TWO STEPCHILDREN DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS.
09:38:57 I AM A PROFESSOR AT USF AND I CANNOT AFFORD THIS AREA.
09:39:00 IF THIS GOES FORWARD.
09:39:03 IT'S RIDICULOUS.
09:39:07 -- LIKELY FORCED OUT OF THE AREA.
09:39:09 POLICE OFFICERS HERE, SCHOOLTEACHERS, NURSES AND WORKERS
09:39:12 IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY.
09:39:14 THOSE ARE MY PARTICULAR PROBLEMS HERE.
09:39:16 I KNOW A NUMBER OF THE GROUPS, STOVALL, IT'S SAD THEY HAD
09:39:21 ISSUES AS WELL.
09:39:21 BUT I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO GIVE YOU AN IMPACT --
09:39:23 IDEA ABOUT HOW IT WILL IMPACT PEOPLE LIKE ME HERE,
09:39:27 WHENEVER WE'RE GOING TO BE DISPLACED FOR 1.7 AND UPWARDS
09:39:30 CONDOS.
09:39:31 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WORLD.
09:39:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:39:33 NEXT UP, MICKEY JACOB.
09:39:39 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:39:40 MY NAME IS MICKEY JACOB, 450 KNIGHTS RUN AVENUE, TAMPA,
09:39:43 33602.
09:39:45 I'VE BEEN A PRACTICING ARCHITECT IN THE CITY FOR 39
09:39:50 YEARS.
09:39:50 THIS EVENING, I'M SPEAKING TO YOU AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN IN
09:39:54 SUPPORT OF THE REZONING APPLICATION FOR THE PROJECT.
09:39:56 GREAT CITIES DARE TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE OF DESIGN AND
09:40:00 IMPROVES THE CONDITION OF THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT TO
09:40:03 BENEFIT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:40:04 I THINK THIS IS PROJECT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO
09:40:06 APPLY AND IMPLEMENT THAT IDEAL.
09:40:10 LETTED GROUP IS BRINGING -- RITZ-CARLTON TO OUR CITY IN A
09:40:13 WAY THAT WILL ADD NEW ELEGANT TO OUR URBAN ENVIRONMENT
09:40:17 AND I BELIEVE WILL BE ONE OF THE JEWELS OF ARCHITECTURE
09:40:20 IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:40:21 BUILDING DESIGNS BY ICONIC ARCHITECTURAL FIRM,
09:40:25 WORLD-CLASS STRUCTURES THAT CONNECTS TECHNOLOGY, NEW
09:40:27 MATERIALS WITH FUNCTION AND BEAUTY INTO BUILDINGS THAT
09:40:29 WILL BE A STUNNING ADDITION TO THE SKYLINE.
09:40:32 THEIR PORTFOLIO OF WORK AROUND THE WORLD FOR DECADES HAS
09:40:35 SET A STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE THAT HONESTLY ALL OF US IN
09:40:37 THE ARCHITECTURE PROFESSION ASPIRE TO ACHIEVE.
09:40:41 THESE BUILDINGS ARE NO EXCEPTION TO THAT.
09:40:42 SETS THE PROJECT APART FROM THE NORM IS THE INVESTMENT BY
09:40:47 THE RELATED GROUP TO IMPROVE THE SURROUNDING STREETSCAPE
09:40:50 AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WITH NEW PATHWAYS AND CONNECTIONS.
09:40:53 INTERACTIVE GREENSPACE UNDER THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY
09:40:56 REVITALIZES THE LONG NEGLECTED EYESORE INTO THE BEAUTIFUL
09:41:00 COMMUNITY ASSET.
09:41:02 PROPOSED GROUND IMPROVEMENTS WILL PROVIDE A SAFER,
09:41:04 SUSTAINABLE AND COMFORTABLE MEANS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
09:41:06 RESIDENTS AND CHILDREN, CONNECT TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND
09:41:10 MacDILL AVENUE RETAIL CORRIDOR.
09:41:13 JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, I STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS PROJECT IS
09:41:16 TAKING AN ABANDONED AND IGNORED HISTORICAL ELEMENT, THE
09:41:19 ONLY ORIGINAL REMAINING FOUNTAIN FROM THE CENTRO ESPANOL
09:41:23 HOSPITAL AND REVITALIZE AND REPURPOSE INTO ORIGINAL
09:41:27 ELEGANCE AS A BUILDING DESIGN FEATURE.
09:41:29 RESPECT FOR ARCHITECTURAL PAST AND RECOGNITION OF OUR
09:41:32 CULTURAL HERITAGE MAKES THIS A UNIQUE AND THOUGHTFUL
09:41:36 ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:41:37 SIMPLY STATED, THIS PROJECT WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF
09:41:39 LIFE FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH WILL BENEFIT
09:41:41 OUR CITIZENS FOR DECADES TO COME.
09:41:43 STREETSCAPE INTERACTIVE AND SAFE, IT'S GOING TO CONNECT
09:41:47 NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENHANCE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO
09:41:49 EXPERIENCE THE SOCIAL INTERACTIONS THAT ALLOW COMMUNITIES
09:41:52 TO THRIVE.
09:41:54 RESPECTS OUR HISTORY AND HERITAGE WHILE ADDING BEAUTY AND
09:41:57 ELEGANCE TO THE SKYLINE.
09:41:58 IT WILL PROVIDE A DYNAMIC AND VIBRANT NEW LIVING OPTION
09:42:02 THROUGH DESIGN EXCELLENCE.
09:42:03 I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT, AND I ASK YOU ALL TO
09:42:06 DO THE SAME BY VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION.
09:42:08 THANK YOU.
09:42:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:42:10 MICHELLE REYES.
09:42:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR.
09:42:14 JACOB.
09:42:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:42:16 GO AHEAD.
09:42:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MICKEY, YOU'RE A RESPECTED ARCHITECT
09:42:25 IN THIS TOWN, AND YOU PROBABLY WORKED ON SOME OF THE
09:42:29 OTHER HIGH-RISES ALONG BAYSHORE.
09:42:31 DID YOU SEE THE DEMONSTRATION THAT WAS GIVEN EARLIER
09:42:40 ABOUT THE DISTANCES BETWEEN THE VARIOUS BUILDINGS?
09:42:44 >> YES, SIR.
09:42:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
09:42:46 ASSUMING THAT IT'S TRUE, I DON'T HAVE MY TAPE MEASURE
09:42:52 WITH ME, BUT ASSUMING THAT IT'S TRUE THAT THESE TWO
09:42:55 BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE 43 FEET APART, DOES THAT
09:42:59 CONCERN YOU AS AN ARCHITECT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ON A
09:43:05 FAIRLY LARGE PIECE OF LAND, THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
09:43:10 MORE FLEXIBILITY TO SPREAD THE NEW BUILDING A LITTLE BIT
09:43:14 FARTHER AWAY FROM THE EXISTING STOVALL?
09:43:17 MY LAST QUESTION, MICKEY AND DON'T TAKE THIS IN ANY
09:43:23 NEGATIVE WAY, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, ARE YOU DOING ANY
09:43:26 PROJECTS WITH RELATED OR WITH ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS HERE
09:43:30 TONIGHT?
09:43:31 >> OKAY.
09:43:32 SO TO ANSWER YOUR LAST QUESTION FIRST, COUNCILMAN, NO, I
09:43:36 AM NOT UNDER CONTRACT NOR DO I HAVE A BUSINESS
09:43:39 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RELATED GROUP AT ALL.
09:43:42 YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE DIFFERENTIAL IN DISTANCE, IF IT'S
09:43:50 43 FEET, WHATEVER IT IS, I'M -- CONCERN BECAUSE THE
09:43:55 OVERALL PROJECT MITIGATES, I THINK [AUDIO BREAKS UP] THE
09:44:00 WAY THE GROUND SCAPE IS TREATED.
09:44:02 HOW THE PARKING GARAGE REALLY CONNECTED DOWN INTO THE
09:44:08 NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
09:44:09 SO FOR ME, THIS BUILDING BECOMES A GROUND [AUDIO BREAKS
09:44:14 UP] AND I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUILDINGS BEING
09:44:17 CLOSE AND ISSUES WITH VIEWS BECAUSE THIS IS URBAN
09:44:20 ENVIRONMENT.
09:44:20 WE HAVE A VERTICAL ELEMENT ALONG BAYSHORE.
09:44:24 THAT'S PART OF WHAT BAYSHORE IS, AND I BELIEVE THAT
09:44:27 BERNARDO AND HIS TEAM HAVE THOUGHT THAT THROUGH, AND
09:44:31 THEIR DESIGN I THINK IS SENSITIVE TO THAT.
09:44:34 FROM A PRIVACY STANDPOINT BASED ON WHAT HE SAID, HOW IT'S
09:44:38 DESIGNED WITH THE STEP-BACKS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE
09:44:40 BALCONIES ACT.
09:44:41 I BELIEVE THAT THE DESIGN IN AND OF ITSELF AS A WHOLE IS
09:44:44 A VERY GOOD DESIGN FOR THE SITE.
09:44:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:44:47 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:44:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:44:49 NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHELLE REYES.
09:44:53 YOU MAY BEGIN.
09:44:54 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:44:55 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
09:44:57 I'M COMING TO YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AS A TAMPA
09:45:01 RESIDENT, AS SOMEONE BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
09:45:04 I'VE GONE TO SCHOOL JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE
09:45:06 PROJECT, AND IT'S EXTREMELY EXCITING AND PROMISING TO
09:45:09 WATCH HOW MUCH THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW UP AND EVOLVE
09:45:13 AROUND US.
09:45:14 I THINK HAVING A TOP DEVELOPER LIKE RELATED INVESTING IN
09:45:17 NOT ONLY THE BAYSHORE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT INTO OUR CITY AS A
09:45:19 WHOLE IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE OF TAMPA.
09:45:22 I THINK THIS BEING THEIR SIXTH PROJECT IN THE CITY REALLY
09:45:25 SHOWS THEIR COMMITMENT TO US AND THEIR PLAN FOR THE
09:45:28 ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE THE
09:45:30 TREE PRESERVATION, LIKE THE LARGER SIDEWALKS, THE PUBLIC
09:45:34 ART, THE PUBLIC SPACE UNDERNEATH THE UNDERPASS.
09:45:36 IT SHOWS THE TIME, THE THOUGHT, THE CARE THEY PUT INTO
09:45:39 THEIR PROJECTS, AND IT SHOWS THE POSITIVE IMPACT IT
09:45:43 ULTIMATELY HAS ON THE COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDS IT.
09:45:45 SO I REALLY DO THINK THAT THE COMBINATION OF THIS
09:45:48 DEVELOPER AND A WORLD-RENOWNED AND WELL-RESPECTED BRAND
09:45:52 LIKE THE RITZ-CARLTON IS TRULY AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY
09:45:54 THAT TAMPA CAN'T PASS UP.
09:45:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:45:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:45:59 THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS ANNE LANGFORD.
09:46:04 YOU MAY BEGIN.
09:46:06 >> HI, EVERYONE.
09:46:07 GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:46:09 I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
09:46:12 I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF THE RITZ RESIDENCE
09:46:16 COMING TO SOUTH TAMPA.
09:46:17 I'M SPEAKING TO YOU THIS EVENING AS A RESIDENT WHO LIVES
09:46:19 VERY CLOSE BY.
09:46:20 I LIVE ON 1301 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE, 33606.
09:46:26 THE FACT I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT THE RITZ PROPERTY
09:46:29 WILL BRING ASTUTE DIVERSE INDIVIDUALS TO TAMPA.
09:46:32 I CAME HERE RECENTLY FROM NEW YORK CITY WITH A CAREER IN
09:46:34 HIGH-END PERSONAL PROPERTY APPRAISAL AND SALES.
09:46:37 I CAN SPEAK ON ANYONE ON BEHALF OF THE LUXURY GOODS
09:46:40 INDUSTRY THAT A PROJECT LIKE THE RITZ WILL ATTRACT NICHE
09:46:44 CLIENTELE THAT PROP UP THIS TRADE.
09:46:46 I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED BEING AN ART HISTORY MAJOR WITH A
09:46:50 MASTERS INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY IN THAT.
09:46:51 ST. PETE HAS DONE SOME VERY REPUTABLE THINGS TO ENGAGE
09:46:55 THEIR COMMUNITY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A
09:46:57 DEVELOPMENT HERE THAT WILL DO THE SAME.
09:46:59 THANK YOU.
09:47:06 [AUDIO DROP]
09:47:20 [NO ENCODER]
09:48:09 >>THE CLERK: WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON MR. JONATHAN PAUL.
09:48:11 I CANNOT ELEVATE HIM.
09:48:14 HE MIGHT BE ON A DEVICE NOT ALLOWING TO US ELEVATE.
09:48:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS
09:48:21 YET.
09:48:21 MR. ACOSTA, DID YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON?
09:48:29 >> I'M TRYING TO.
09:48:31 >>THE CLERK: AS WELL AS JANET SCHERBERGER.
09:48:35 YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON AS WELL.
09:48:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ACOSTA, ARE YOU SPEAKING OR IS
09:48:43 YOUR WIFE SPEAKING?
09:48:44 >> I AM SPEAKING.
09:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:48:46 FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME, BECAUSE WE SEE
09:48:49 CHRISTINE'S NAME.
09:48:52 WE'RE WAITING ON JANET.
09:48:54 JANET, ARE YOU ON?
09:48:57 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME.
09:48:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT YOUR CAMERA NEEDS
09:49:00 TO BE TURNED ON.
09:49:06 >> I'M CLICKING SHARE MY WEB CAM.
09:49:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:49:08 IT SHOULD COME ON.
09:49:17 >> DO YOU SEE IT?
09:49:18 AM I THERE?
09:49:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
09:49:20 THERE YOU ARE.
09:49:23 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
09:49:27 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE TRUTH, THE
09:49:31 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:49:32 >> I DO.
09:49:35 >> I DO.
09:49:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEITH, YOU MAY BEGIN.
09:49:39 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:49:42 YOU'RE MUTED, SIR.
09:49:46 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:49:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:49:48 GO AHEAD.
09:49:49 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:49:51 MY NAME IS KEITH GREMINGER.
09:49:54 AIA.
09:49:55 I LIVE AT 711 SOUTH FIELDING AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
09:49:59 33606.
09:50:01 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
09:50:04 WHEN YOU HEAR WORDS LIKE LAKESHORE DRIVE, WORTH AVENUE,
09:50:10 RODEO DRIVE, YOU DON'T THINK OF ROADS OR CORRIDORS.
09:50:13 YOU THINK OF PLACES.
09:50:14 THAT'S WHAT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS.
09:50:17 IT IS A PLACE.
09:50:19 AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO COME ON
09:50:25 BOARD IS ONE WE SHOULD BE PROUD AND HAPPY TO HAVE TO ADD
09:50:28 TO THE PLACE.
09:50:29 AS WELL AS THE RELATED GROUP WHO MANY HAVE SAID BEFORE,
09:50:32 THERE ARE MULTIPLE PROJECTS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:50:34 THEY DECIDED TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:50:37 THEY ARE WANTING TO GROW THIS COMMUNITY AS WE ARE, AND
09:50:40 THEY ARE HERE TO PROVIDE THAT.
09:50:45 THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, I BELIEVE, WITH SOME OF THAT.
09:50:48 SOME OF THE DESIGN CONCEPTS.
09:50:50 THE TREE PRESERVATION, WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE
09:50:53 UNDERPASS OF THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
09:50:56 THE ABILITY FOR THAT CONNECTION OVER TO OUR BAY TO BAY
09:51:03 RETAIL DISTRICT.
09:51:04 THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT DISTRICT TO GROW AND RESPOND
09:51:07 WOULD BE A GREAT ATTRIBUTE.
09:51:08 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT ABOUT IN THIS
09:51:12 DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS THE NATURE OF THE TOWER AND THE
09:51:16 LOCATION OF THE TOWER.
09:51:18 THIS IS A VERY NARROW BUT DEEP PIECE OF PROPERTY.
09:51:24 SO THE SETBACKS, WHICH THEY HAVE ACTUALLY GRANTED AS MUCH
09:51:28 AS POSSIBLE TO THE FRONT TO ACTUALLY OPEN THAT UP, AS YOU
09:51:33 LOOK AT THE CURVATURE OF BAYSHORE IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED
09:51:36 BETTER VISIBILITY FOR THE STOVALL AS WELL AS THEIR OWN
09:51:39 RESIDENTS.
09:51:40 SO THE BUILDING PLACEMENT I THINK IS WELL DONE, NOT ONLY
09:51:45 FOR THE PHASE ONE TOWER, BUT FOR THE PHASE TWO TOWER.
09:51:49 I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ADD TREMENDOUS VALUE.
09:51:54 IT WILL HELP PROMOTE BAYSHORE AS THE WORLD-CLASS PLACE
09:52:00 THAT IT IS.
09:52:01 AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THINGS LIKE THIS, BAYSHORE WILL
09:52:05 CONTINUE TO BE THAT PLACE AND WITH NAMES LIKE
09:52:10 RITZ-CARLTON AND THE RELATED GROUP COMING ONTO THIS
09:52:14 PROPERTY WILL HAVE VAST IMPACTS FOR YEARS TO COME.
09:52:18 SO I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE NEED
09:52:20 THIS PROJECT AND MANY MORE TO COME AS THIS COMMUNITY
09:52:24 EVOLVES.
09:52:26 AND PUSH THIS FORWARD TO THE NEXT CENTURY.
09:52:29 AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
09:52:32 THANK YOU.
09:52:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:33 MR. ACOSTA, YOU'RE NEXT.
09:52:35 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:52:37 MY NAME IS JOHN ACOSTA.
09:52:39 I LIVE AT 2402 WEST MORRISON AVENUE, AND HAVE LIVED AT
09:52:43 THE MONTE CARLO TOWERS AND REMAIN A PROPERTY OWNER THERE.
09:52:47 MY SON IS ACTUALLY A RENTAL TENANT RIGHT NOW AT BAY OAKS
09:52:51 APARTMENT.
09:52:51 MY FAMILY AND I ARE EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPOSED
09:52:54 PROJECT LOCATION, AND WE WISH TO SUPPORT THE
09:52:56 REDEVELOPMENT.
09:52:57 WHILE WE PLACE HIGH VALUE ON THE PROTECTION OF OUR TREE
09:53:00 CANOPY, WE BELIEVE THE OVERARCHING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE
09:53:03 AREA WILL OFFSET THE UNFORTUNATE LOSS OF TREES.
09:53:06 WE ENJOY WALKING TO THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS, WINE CELLAR,
09:53:13 WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW BUDDY GROUP COFFEE IN THE AREA
09:53:15 THAT WILL OPEN SOON.
09:53:17 THE AMOUNT OF WALKING AND BIKING MY FAMILY HAS DONE IN
09:53:19 THE AREA HAS ENABLED US TO BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH EVERY
09:53:24 INCH.
09:53:24 WE WALK AND BIKE A LOT.
09:53:26 EVERY INCH OF THE SURROUNDING PROJECT YOU ARE DISCUSSING.
09:53:29 WE BELIEVE THERE ARE A LOT OF SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENTS
09:53:31 THAT CAN BE MADE BY THE DEVELOPER AND RESPECTIVE PARTNERS
09:53:35 TO MITIGATE THE CHALLENGES THAT SUCH A LARGE CONSTRUCTION
09:53:38 PROJECT WILL BRING UPON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:53:40 MY WIFE, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ADVOCATE CHRISTINE ACOSTA
09:53:44 SENDS HER BEST REGARDS TO THE COUNCIL.
09:53:46 SHE ASKED ME TO CONVEY OUR FAMILY'S THOUGHTS AND HER
09:53:49 CONFIDENCE IN THE DEVELOPER TO ACT UPON REASONABLE
09:53:52 REQUESTS THAT WILL BE DERIVED FROM A WALK AND BIKE
09:53:56 COMMUNITY AUDIT.
09:53:57 SHE AND OTHER ADVOCATES MADE SIMILAR REQUESTS THAT WERE
09:54:01 GRANTED AT THE GRAND CENTRAL ACROSS FROM THE OXFORD
09:54:04 EXCHANGE.
09:54:05 THAT PROPERTY NOW HAS BIKE RACKS, BICYCLE REPAIR STATION,
09:54:09 AND ADJACENT TO A COVERED HART TRANSIT STOP ALONG THE
09:54:13 BUFFERED BICYCLE LANE ON CLEVELAND AVENUE.
09:54:16 MY FAMILY AND I, ROBUSTLY SUPPORT THE REDEVELOPMENT.
09:54:21 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:54:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:23 JANET SCHERBERGER.
09:54:27 >> I LIVE AT 3821 WEST SAN LUIS STREET, A BOARD MEMBER OF
09:54:33 WALK, BIKE TAMPA AND I LIVE NEAR THE PROPERTY AND
09:54:35 FREQUENTLY BIKE AND WALK IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:54:39 OF NOTE TO ME AND THE ORGANIZATION, THE DEVELOPER IS
09:54:41 COMMITTED TO MAKING IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL MAKE THE
09:54:43 SURROUNDING STREETS SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.
09:54:47 AS RELATED DEMONSTRATED IN THEIR PRESENTATION, THEY PLAN
09:54:49 TO IMPROVE STREETSCAPES AND CONNECTIVITY AS WELL AS
09:54:53 PARTNER WITH THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY TO IMPROVE THE
09:54:54 MacDILL BAY TO BAY UNDERPASS, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS
09:54:57 REALLY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE ON FOOT OR ON BIKE.
09:55:00 THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO TALKING TO WALK, BIKE TAMPA ABOUT
09:55:04 PARTNERING ON AN AUDIT OF THE AREA, AS JOHN VISIONED, SO
09:55:08 OUR ORGANIZATION CAN DETERMINE WHETHER ACTIVE
09:55:11 TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO BETTER
09:55:13 SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:55:13 SO IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
09:55:16 WITH RELATED TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.
09:55:18 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:55:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:55:21 I SEE HENDERSON EVERETT LEE, BUT YOU WERE NOT SWORN IN.
09:55:27 IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
09:55:32 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE TRUTH, THE
09:55:36 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:55:38 >> I WILL.
09:55:39 >> THANK YOU.
09:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:55:40 GO AHEAD.
09:55:41 >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
09:55:42 THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TONIGHT.
09:55:44 I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE RELATED PROJECT OF THE
09:55:47 RITZ-CARLTON RESIDENTS.
09:55:49 I LIVE AT 1909 WEST RICHARDSON PLACE IN TAMPA, 33606.
09:55:54 SO I'M A NEIGHBOR HALF A BLOCK OFF BAYSHORE.
09:55:58 ALSO A REALTOR WITH THE TONY EVERETT COMPANY.
09:56:00 I SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE WATCHING THE DEVELOPMENT OF
09:56:02 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD GROW.
09:56:05 AND TO HAVE A PROJECT LIKE THIS WITH THE RITZ-CARLTON
09:56:09 RESIDENTS AND THE REPUTATION OF RELATED COME TO TAMPA
09:56:13 REALLY PUTS US ON THE MAP.
09:56:14 WE ARE THE ONLY CITY ON THE WEST COAST THAT IS A TRUE
09:56:18 CITY.
09:56:18 WE HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
09:56:24 WE'VE GOT ALL THE FAMOUS TEAMS AND I THINK THE
09:56:28 RITZ-CARLTON RESIDENTS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO
09:56:32 THE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS OUR PREMIER BOULEVARD,
09:56:36 AND I THINK IT REALLY ADDS A LOT TO TAMPA.
09:56:38 THANK YOU.
09:56:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:41 NEXT SELECTION OF SPEAKERS, PLEASE.
09:56:46 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR THAT COMPLETES THE REST OF THE LIST.
09:56:48 I DO HAVE JONATHAN PAUL AS A PANELIST, BUT HE NEEDS TO
09:56:52 TURN ON HIS CAMERA.
09:56:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JONATHAN PAUL, IF YOU'RE LOGGED ON,
09:56:56 AND IF YOU CAN HEAR US, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TURN ON YOUR
09:56:59 CAMERA, AND WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:57:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN TAKE DOWN MS. LEE'S --
09:57:12 >>THE CLERK: IN ADDITION, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WAS
09:57:14 MISSED THAT'S STILL LOGGED ON AS AN ATTENDEE, IF THEY
09:57:17 COULD CLICK THE RAISE YOUR HAND ICON.
09:57:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU SEE ANYBODY?
09:57:36 >>THE CLERK: NO.
09:57:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY RECORDINGS?
09:57:38 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE NO RECORDINGS FOR THE
09:57:40 QUASI-MEETING.
09:57:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, I WAS EXPECTING FOUR HOURS OF
09:57:45 PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:57:46 ARE YOU SURE THERE'S NOBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:57:49 I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYBODY.
09:57:51 I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS BEEN COUNTED.
09:57:53 >>THE CLERK: I AM GOING THROUGH THE ATTENDEES LIST TO SEE
09:57:56 WHO IS LOGGED ON.
09:57:57 AND I WILL STATE THAT WE HAVE A BEVERLY MAURER.
09:58:07 SHE'S LOGGED ON BUT WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY ELEVATING
09:58:09 HER.
09:58:10 I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S ON THE CORRECT DEVICE.
09:58:12 AS WELL AS MATTHEW JOSEY.
09:58:23 HE'S ALSO HAVING THE SAME ISSUE.
09:58:29 >>BILL CARLSON: IT SOUNDED LIKE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS
09:58:31 THERE WERE MAYBE TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE ON THE LINE.
09:58:34 DO YOU THINK THEY GOT TIRED AND DROPPED OFF OR WERE THEY
09:58:37 REPRESENTED BY THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE FOR 15 MINUTES?
09:58:41 DO WE KNOW?
09:58:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, I'LL ANSWER THAT.
09:58:44 THAT CALLS FOR SPECULATION, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RATHER
09:58:46 APPROPRIATE TO SPEND THE TIME SPECULATING.
09:58:49 I WILL REMIND COUNCIL, DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL DOES, IF
09:58:53 THIS DOES ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD, THEN IT DOES HAVE TO
09:58:57 COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING AND AN ADOPTION PUBLIC
09:59:00 HEARING.
09:59:00 SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS THE LONGEST HEARING
09:59:06 WITH THE MOST AMOUNT OF SPEAKERS THAT WE'VE EVER HAD
09:59:08 VIRTUALLY.
09:59:09 AND I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
09:59:11 CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, IN PARTICULAR SULING, BECAUSE I
09:59:15 THINK SHE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH BEING ABLE TO
09:59:17 ORGANIZE THIS.
09:59:18 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, BUT I THINK
09:59:23 WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE ALTERNATE MEANS OF
09:59:27 COMMUNICATION AND THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS
09:59:31 HEARING.
09:59:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:59:32 MADAM CLERK, ANYTHING?
09:59:35 >>THE CLERK: YES.
09:59:36 WE HAVE A MR. TONY EVERETT.
09:59:38 I'M GOING TO MOVE OVER.
09:59:39 HE SIGNED UP UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME, SO HE WAS NOT
09:59:43 RECOGNIZED I'LL MOVE HIM OVER NOW.
09:59:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:00:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REMINDER ALSO, COUNCIL, AFTER YOU HAVE
10:00:03 THE CHANCE TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE THEM, THEN
10:00:07 THE PETITIONER HAS THE LAST WORD AT REBUTTAL.
10:00:12 IF YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS AFTER REBUTTAL, HE'LL HAVE TO
10:00:15 RESPOND WITH ADDITIONAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THAT
10:00:17 UP.
10:00:17 I'M GOING TO ASK -- ASK YOUR QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE IF YOU
10:00:21 HAVE THEM.
10:00:21 ALLOW THE PETITIONER TO REBUT, AND THEN WHAT I'M GOING TO
10:00:24 ASK, IS I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL
10:00:26 THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN AND BEEN MADE
10:00:30 AVAILABLE AS PART OF THIS RECORD.
10:00:32 THANK YOU.
10:00:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU GOT IT.
10:00:34 DO WE HAVE TONY EVERETT BROUGHT OVER?
10:00:38 >>THE CLERK: HE IS OVER.
10:00:39 HE JUST NEEDS TO TURN ON HIS VIDEO.
10:00:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HEAR YOU.
10:00:52 WE NEED YOU TO TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
10:00:54 >> TURNING IT ON.
10:00:55 AND I'M A GIRL.
10:00:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. TONY EVERETT.
10:01:00 NOT A MR.
10:01:01 I HAD A FEELING.
10:01:02 I KNOW THIS NAME, AND IT'S NOT A HE.
10:01:13 >> WE'LL JUMP IN ONE MORE TIME.
10:01:15 JUST A SECOND.
10:01:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THIS --
10:01:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THIS IS THE LAST SPEAKER, TO YOUR
10:01:20 KNOWLEDGE?
10:01:21 >> THIS IS THE LAST SPEAKER TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
10:01:23 LIKE I STATED, WE HAVE TWO OTHERS THAT HAD DIFFICULTY IN
10:01:27 ELEVATING OVER DUE TO THE DEVICES THEY ARE USING.
10:01:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE INSTRUCTIONS I STATED ARE AVAILABLE
10:01:38 IN QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS AT TAMPAGOV.NET/QUASI-
10:01:44 AND ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THEY DO STATE IS THAT
10:01:48 SMART PHONES DO NOT WORK ON THIS PLATFORM, BECAUSE IT
10:01:52 DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
10:01:54 SO THEIR OPTION THEN IS TO USE SOME OTHER DEVICE, OR TO
10:01:58 PUT IN A COMMENT IN WRITING.
10:02:00 THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS FOR THAT.
10:02:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OR GO TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:02:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU MAKE ONE LAST INQUIRY.
10:02:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA
10:02:21 CONVENTION CENTER TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 19?
10:02:29 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
10:02:30 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
10:02:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:50 ALL RIGHT.
10:02:54 ANYONE WITH A CAMERA?
10:02:59 JONATHAN PAUL IS ON.
10:03:01 IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:03:03 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:03:04 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
10:03:05 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH,
10:03:09 THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:03:11 >> I DO.
10:03:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:03:13 GO AHEAD.
10:03:13 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:03:14 >> MY NAME IS JONATHAN PAUL, A BOARD MEMBER WITH
10:03:20 SPOTLIGHT TAMPA.
10:03:21 I LIVE AT 712 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33606.
10:03:27 I ACTUALLY HAVE 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN TRANSPORTATION
10:03:32 PLANNING, I'M AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
10:03:35 FLORIDA, I TEACH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, AND I WORK WITH
10:03:39 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM ST. AUGUSTINE TO SARASOTA, DESTIN
10:03:43 TO MIAMI BEACH, BASICALLY HELPING TO CREATE AN
10:03:46 ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO WALK AND BIKE IN.
10:03:49 THE RELATED GROUP APPROACH WALK-BIKE TAMPA AND ASKED US
10:03:53 TO DO A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN AUDIT.
10:04:03 BUSINESSES AND OTHER INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS TO ACTUALLY
10:04:07 WALK BAYSHORE, BAY TO BAY, MacDILL, AND ALSO RIDE
10:04:10 ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS, AND REALLY PUT A FOCUS ON
10:04:14 IDENTIFYING IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE, SOME OF
10:04:17 WHICH RELATED GROUP, THEY PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:04:20 ON, BUT ALSO SOMETHING FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
10:04:26 THEY ARE ALREADY MAKING A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN
10:04:28 SANTIAGO. WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO FOR
10:04:31 SOMEONE THAT USES RETAIL USES ALONG MacDILL, ALSO
10:04:35 SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND
10:04:37 THE AREA.
10:04:38 WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT COULD BE A CATALYST TO
10:04:43 CONTINUE TO ACTUALLY TRANSFORM BAY TO BAY, RESIDENTS
10:04:48 THERE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK AND BIKE TO MANY OF
10:04:51 THOSE USES.
10:04:52 AS OF RIGHT NOW, BAY TO BAY IS NOT REALLY A SAFE
10:04:55 CORRIDOR, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ACTUALLY UNDERTAKING ITS
10:05:02 OWN STUDY.
10:05:02 SO WE OFFER SOME INSIGHT, PERSPECTIVE, AND ALSO USE SOME
10:05:06 OF THE RESOURCES THAT I HAVE THAT I USE IN OTHER
10:05:08 COMMUNITIES TO ACTUALLY PREPARE A RENDERING BASED UPON
10:05:12 THE FEEDBACK WE GET WITH INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE, SHOW HOW
10:05:16 BAY TO BAY CAN TRANSFORM TO SOMETHING THAT IS A BENEFIT
10:05:21 TO THE COMMUNITIES AND A GRAND ENTRANCE TO BAYSHORE
10:05:25 BOULEVARD.
10:05:26 SO WALK-BIKE TAMPA IS NOT TAKING ANY POSITION IN TERMS OF
10:05:29 FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, BUT WE ARE GLAD TO WORK WITH
10:05:35 THE RELATED GROUP.
10:05:36 THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE AN ENVIRONMENTS THAT'S BETTER OUT
10:05:39 THERE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AND BIKE.
10:05:41 WE HOPE TO WORK WITH THEM, AND WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:05:44 AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:48 WAS TONY EVERETT ABLE TO GET THE CAMERA ON?
10:05:53 >> NO, SIR, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ABLE TO.
10:05:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, THEN THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR
10:05:59 PUBLIC COMMENTS.
10:06:01 AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY CITY
10:06:06 COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:06:08 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YES, SIR.
10:06:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO MR. GARDNER.
10:06:16 I HEARD EVERYONE SPEAK TONIGHT.
10:06:21 I HEARD WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WHAT OUT YOU CAN'T DO.
10:06:24 I GUESS THE OPPOSITION TALKS ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF
10:06:32 THE PROJECT.
10:06:35 ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU CAN SHARE IN REFERENCE TO WHAT THEY
10:06:40 WERE TALKING ABOUT IF THEY LEAVE THIS PROJECT ALONE?
10:06:43 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THAT'S ACTUALLY THE THRUST OF OUR
10:06:46 REBUTTAL.
10:06:47 SO I CAN EITHER HANDLE THAT AS REBUTTAL OR DIRECTLY
10:06:51 ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
10:06:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY?
10:06:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE
10:06:58 REBUTTAL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU LOOK FORWARD, WHY
10:07:03 DON'T YOU WAIT TO HEAR WHAT THE REBUTTAL IS.
10:07:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:07:08 I YIELD BACK TO THE CHAIRMAN.
10:07:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:13 DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE BEEN ANY QUESTIONS?
10:07:14 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:07:27 YOU ARE MUTED.
10:07:29 UNMUTE YOURSELF, COUNCILMAN.
10:07:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE TREE AND ANXIOUS STAFF ON
10:07:36 BOARD WITH US THIS CALL?
10:07:38 >> WE COULD HAVE MELANIE CALLOWAY FOR TRANSPORTATION AND
10:07:48 THEN BILL NORRIS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES.
10:07:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO WE HAVE THEM BOTH PULLED UP?
10:07:55 I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
10:07:57 IS THAT CORRECT?
10:08:02 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: I WAS SWORN IN AT THE BEGINNING.
10:08:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEGINNING OF WHAT, THE BEGINNING OF
10:08:09 THIS HEARING?
10:08:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WE BEGAN ITEM NUMBER 19.
10:08:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
10:08:15 I DON'T RECALL.
10:08:16 THANK YOU.
10:08:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT TO DO IT AGAIN JUST TO BE
10:08:19 CAREFUL, MR. SHELBY?
10:08:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF SHE SAYS SHE'S BEEN SWORN IN, AND
10:08:24 MR. CHAIRMAN RECOGNIZES THAT.
10:08:25 MADAM CLERK --
10:08:32 YOU CAN SWEAR HER AGAIN.
10:08:33 THAT'S FINE.
10:08:36 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
10:08:38 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:08:42 >> I DO.
10:08:43 >> YES.
10:08:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. CALLOWAY, I THINK I HEARD A
10:08:49 COUPLE HOURS AGO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION,
10:08:52 THEY SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASE IN TRAFFIC,
10:08:56 PERHAPS EVEN A DECREASE IN TRAFFIC.
10:09:01 DID THEY PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY TO YOU TO REVIEW IT?
10:09:05 WHAT'S YOUR CONCLUSION?
10:09:06 SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT 176 UNITS TO 180 UNITS BUT THEY
10:09:12 WERE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THOSE
10:09:15 UNITS SIGNIFICANTLY.
10:09:17 SO WHAT'S UP WITH THE TRAFFIC?
10:09:27 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YES, THEY DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC MEMO,
10:09:29 AND THAT IS IN THE RECORD, CLEARLY SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE
10:09:32 IN TRAFFIC, WHAT WAS THERE EXISTING TO WHAT IS PROPOSED,
10:09:37 AND IT IS THE LESS NUMBER OF TRIPS.
10:09:40 AS YOU MAY RECALL, A LOT OF THE TIME, THE TRIPS THAT ARE
10:09:45 ASSOCIATED WITH ANY USE IS NOT IN CORRELATION WITH THE
10:09:49 NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
10:09:57 THE TRIPS ARE BASED ON WHAT IS PROPOSED EXISTING AND NOT
10:10:00 BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED.
10:10:05 I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
10:10:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE
10:10:10 PREVIOUS BUILDING PERHAPS DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY PARKING
10:10:14 SPACES BUT IT HAD THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS?
10:10:21 DWELLING UNITS ARE DWELLING UNITS, RIGHT?
10:10:24 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: CORRECT.
10:10:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MELANIE.
10:10:32 SORRY TO KEEP YOU ALL EVENING.
10:10:38 MR. FORD, YOU ARE OUR TREE EXPERT IN THE CITY JUST FOR
10:10:43 THE RECORD.
10:10:44 BUT IN REGARD TO THE TREE REMOVAL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED,
10:10:50 IT LOOKS LIKE THE REQUIREMENT OF 50% THAT THEY SHOULD BE
10:10:58 LEAVING 50 PERCENT AND YET THEY ARE ASKING TO REMOVE AN
10:11:01 ADDITIONAL 30%, TAKE IT DOWN TO 20%.
10:11:06 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CLEAR OR NOT.
10:11:08 BUT ANYWAY, WHY DON'T YOU TELL US WHAT YOUR EVALUATION IS
10:11:12 ON THE TREE REMOVAL REQUEST?
10:11:16 >> SURE.
10:11:17 I WANT TO PREFACE MY REMARKS.
10:11:20 I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP, THE
10:11:23 APPLICANT, AND COMMUNITY GROUPS WHO AND THE BOTTOM LINE
10:11:32 IS FROM MY INITIAL COMMENTS, THE GROUP'S COMMENTS, THEY
10:11:38 WANT TO SEE CONTINUING AT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND
10:11:43 INTERSECT WITH BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:11:46 AND THERE WAS CONCERN WITH THE MORE THAN 50% REMOVED, AND
10:11:55 WOULDN'T GET THAT TREE CANOPY BACK.
10:11:56 SO WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT, AND HE HAS DROPPED PLANS
10:12:01 TO REPLACE ANY OAKS THAT ARE COMING OUT.
10:12:05 AND THE OTHER THING THAT THE OAKS ON SANTIAGO CURRENTLY
10:12:15 ARE NOT THE BEST HEALTH.
10:12:19 THEIR RESISTANCE HAS BEEN IMPACTED.
10:12:22 AND THE OAKS BEING PROPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT ARE 6-INCH
10:12:26 CALIPER, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 22-FOOT HIGH TREE, AND
10:12:30 ABOUT TWO FOOT WIDE.
10:12:33 SO WE ARE GOING TO GET BETTER TREES, HEALTHIER TREES,
10:12:38 BETTER ROOT SYSTEMS, AND AN IMPROVEMENT AS FAR AS THE
10:12:42 CANOPY.
10:12:43 AND THEY ARE GOING TO SAVE THE TWO GRAND TREES ON THE
10:12:48 SITE.
10:12:49 AND SO FROM NATURAL RESOURCES TREE CANOPY STANDPOINT, WE
10:12:57 FEEL THIS WILL BE A BETTER TREE CANOPY OVERALL.
10:13:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAW SOMEWHERE IN I THINK THE STAFF
10:13:06 REPORT, IT ALSO SPOKE TO A CONTRIBUTION TO THE TREE FUND?
10:13:15 IS THAT -- THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO PUT ALL THE
10:13:20 REPLACEMENT ON-SITE?
10:13:21 >> YEAH, THE COMMENT WAS MADE EARLY ON.
10:13:25 BUT WE WERE INSISTENT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, TO SEE
10:13:30 THOSE REPLACEMENTS.
10:13:33 THE COMMENTS ARE THEY CAN'T GET EVERY SINGLE TREE BACK.
10:13:37 BUT WE SHOWED THAT THEY HAVE PLANS DRAWN, AND WE HAVE HAD
10:13:41 MEETINGS ON THIS, THAT ANYTHING THAT CAME OUT LIKE OAK
10:13:44 TREE-WISE IS GOING TO BE REPLACED.
10:13:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THOSE WILL BE REPLACED WITH SOME OF
10:13:50 THE BIGGEST NURSERY TREES YOU CAN FIND.
10:13:54 THEY WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR BIGGER THAN SIX INCH BUT
10:13:57 THEY FOUND THE BIGGEST THEY COULD FIND WAS 6-INCH, 22
10:14:01 FEET HIGH.
10:14:02 SO THE CRUX OF THE MATTER IS, THE ESSENTIAL TREES, THE
10:14:05 TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CANOPIED ARE GOING TO BE
10:14:08 REPLACED AND THEN EMBELLISH IT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF
10:14:14 TROPICAL THEME.
10:14:15 BUT WE DO WANT CONTINUITY ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:14:19 SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR CANOPY.
10:14:22 THEY PROMISED TO DO THAT BOTH IN THEIR DRAWINGS AND
10:14:27 THROUGHOUT OUR MEETINGS.
10:14:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. FORD.
10:14:31 MY LAST QUESTION, MR. GARDNER, I APOLOGIZE FOR CUTTING
10:14:34 YOU OFF EARLIER, BUT I DID WANT TO HEAR FROM MR. FORD AND
10:14:40 NOT YOU BUT NOW YOU GET A CHANCE TO JUMP BACK IN.
10:14:47 CLEARLY ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUES THAT I HEARD FROM
10:14:49 MR. VAKA WAS THIS DISTANCE ISSUE 42 OR 43 FEET FROM ONE
10:15:00 BUILDING TO THE NEXT.
10:15:00 OBVIOUSLY THE STOVALL DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT CONCERN ABOUT
10:15:10 THAT.
10:15:10 THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE LOOKED AT.
10:15:12 AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHY THEY WEREN'T SELECTED, SO YOU
10:15:17 CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR REBUTTAL.
10:15:19 THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:15:21 THANK YOU.
10:15:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:23 WE DO HAVE THAT ONE SPEAKER THAT HAD ISSUES GETTING THE
10:15:28 CAMERA BACK ON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:15:30 AND THE CLERK HAS NOTIFIED ME ABOUT THAT.
10:15:36 I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA OWN.
10:15:38 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
10:15:41 AND THAT WILL BE IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:15:57 IF YOU CAN TURN YOU'RE CAMERA ON WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:16:01 THERE WE GO.
10:16:01 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH,
10:16:05 THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:16:07 >> YES, I DO.
10:16:08 >>ZACHARY GRECO: THANK YOU.
10:16:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NAME ON THE SCREEN IS NOT THE
10:16:15 SPEAKER'S NAME.
10:16:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY WILL GIVE THEIR NAMES TO PUT ON
10:16:23 THE RECORD.
10:16:24 >> MY NAME IS TONY EVERETT AND I AM IN THE REAL ESTATE
10:16:28 BUSINESS.
10:16:29 AND BUT I AM ALSO A RESIDENT OF A GENERATION OF FAMILY
10:16:36 FROM TAMPA WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOR MANY GENERATIONS, AND
10:16:41 CARE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE GROWTH, AND WE ARE
10:16:48 VERY PROUD TO HAVE THAT GROWTH, AND DOWNTOWN IS BOOMING
10:16:57 NOW, BUT WE ARE A BUSINESS/FAMILY COMMUNITY.
10:17:05 AND I THINK THAT RELATED GROUP IS VERY FAMILY ORIENTED.
10:17:13 THEY CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT ALL THEIR RESIDENTS, NOT JUST
10:17:18 THE HIGH-END RITZ CARLTON RESIDENTS, BUT THEIR AFFORDABLE
10:17:24 HOUSING.
10:17:27 THEY EXEMPLIFY THAT ALL OVER TAMPA IN EVERY DEVELOPMENT
10:17:32 THEY HAVE DONE.
10:17:33 THEREFORE, I AM MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
10:17:36 BAYSHORE IS MY LOVE, AND I HAVE EVEN RIDDEN HORSES BACK
10:17:41 DOWN BAYSHORE WHEN I WAS YOUNG.
10:17:43 SO I AM VERY ATTACHED TO IT.
10:17:45 AND I WANT A DEVELOPMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT REALLY
10:17:51 CARES ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THE
10:17:58 PROJECT, AND THE AESTHETICS AND CARES ABOUT THE RESIDENTS
10:18:04 IN TAMPA AND KEEP THE FAMILY-ORIENTED AREA.
10:18:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:09 I HOPE YOU WILL VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT.
10:18:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:13 THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:18:15 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:18:18 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK LEGAL REAL FAST, THE
10:18:26 STOVALL REPRESENTATIVE TALKED ABOUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN
10:18:28 THE TWO BUILDINGS.
10:18:30 THAT IS THAT CONSIDERED EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE?
10:18:35 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:18:43 THAT IS TESTIMONY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO PROVIDE COUNCIL
10:18:47 WITH INFORMATION AS TO OTHER BUILDINGS ON BAYSHORE FROM
10:18:55 EACH OTHER.
10:18:55 SO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER GETS TO DECIDE WHAT WEIGHT YOU
10:19:00 GIVE THAT EVIDENCE AND THE RELEVANCE TO THE CRITERIA IN
10:19:04 CHAPTER 27.
10:19:06 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:19:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
10:19:10 COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:19:14 OKAY, AT THIS POINT, WE NOW HAVE REBUTTAL BY THE
10:19:23 PETITIONER BY IS FIVE MINUTES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE EXTRA
10:19:28 TIME, CORRECT?
10:19:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:19:30 I CONFIRMED WITH MR. GARDNER THAT WAS --
10:19:38 >>> I WILL BEGIN THE CLOCK.
10:19:39 >>TRUETT GARDNER: WE DID HEAR SOME TRAFFIC AND TREES AS
10:19:44 SPECIFIC CONCERNS.
10:19:45 WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AND HAVE EXPERTS TO DO
10:19:49 SO.
10:19:50 ON THE ISSUE OF SEPARATION, SETBACKS AND VIEWS.
10:19:55 MR. VAKA MENTIONED THAT THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING DOES NOT
10:19:58 PROMOTE SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE, BUT THE WAIVER CRITERIA. TO
10:20:02 BE CLEAR WE ARE NOT SEEKING A WAIVER FROM ANY SETBACK
10:20:05 REQUIREMENT AND THEREFORE WE DID NOT NEED TO PROVIDE THAT
10:20:10 WHICH IS PROMOTED WHERE THE BUILDING SITS.
10:20:12 WE DO NEED TO PROVIDE ON THE TREE, THE LOADING BERTH, THE
10:20:17 WAIVERS, AND WE RESPECTFULLY BELIEVE THAT OUR WRITTEN
10:20:21 TESTIMONY CONSTITUTES SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE
10:20:24 THAT THE WAIVER CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET.
10:20:26 WITH RESPECT TO VIEWS AND SETBACKS, THE LAW ON THIS IS
10:20:33 CLEAR.
10:20:34 IT'S THE FONTAINEBLEAU CASE WHICH IS IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL
10:20:37 INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU, AND WHAT THIS SAYS
10:20:40 IS THERE IS NO LEGAL RIGHT TO A VIEW OR TO THE FREE FLOW
10:20:45 OF AIR AND LIGHT FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY.
10:20:47 THAT SAID, WE HAVE BEEN VERY SENSITIVE IN OUR BUILDINGS.
10:20:51 AFTER TALKING TO NEIGHBORS, NEIGHBORHOOD STAKEHOLDERS
10:20:55 INCLUDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHAT WE ARE
10:21:00 PROPOSING TONIGHT --
10:21:03 SEEMS TO BE PRIMARILY ABOUT SEPARATING THEM FROM
10:21:05 RESIDENTS.
10:21:08 WHERE MOST OF US LIVE IN TAMPA WE HAVE 7-YARD SEETHE SIDE
10:21:12 YARD SETBACKS SO WE ARE GENERALLY 14 FEET FROM OUR
10:21:15 NEIGHBORS.
10:21:15 WE ARE PROPOSING TO BE 46 APART FROM RESIDENTS, MORE THAN
10:21:20 TRIPLE HOW MOST OF US LIVE. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE
10:21:24 WITH RESPECT TO RELATED AND RITZ CARLTON, THEY HAVE
10:21:28 REVIEWED ALL OF THE PLANS, AND SEPARATE BETWEEN
10:21:32 STRUCTURES.
10:21:33 AND WITH THAT, I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO MR.
10:21:38 PRESTON.
10:21:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK YOU ARE MUTED.
10:21:51 YOU ARE MUTED.
10:21:52 >> NO, I'M NOT.
10:21:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE NOT?
10:21:54 OKAY.
10:22:08 >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SEVERAL POINTS, BECAUSE I THINK
10:22:11 THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE DIAGRAMS THAT
10:22:15 YOU SAW.
10:22:18 I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SOME HISTORICAL BACKGROUND ON URBAN
10:22:22 DESIGN, AND MANY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE SHOWN, THE
10:22:30 LARGE MAJORITY, WERE SMALLER SIZE UNITS AND THEREFORE
10:22:35 THEY WERE PERPENDICULAR TO THE POSTS, WITH BALCONIES THAT
10:22:40 WERE FACING SIDEWAYS, AND THEREFORE THE BEDROOMS AND
10:22:45 MASTER BEDROOMS WERE FACING STRAIGHT OUT SIDE WAYS INTO
10:22:49 ANOTHER SET OF LIVING ROOMS AND BEDROOMS AND THEREFORE
10:22:54 THAT'S WHAT WAS PROVIDED BECAUSE THAT WAS PRIMARY VIEW,
10:22:58 THOSE UNITS, AND THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE BECAUSE THE UNIT
10:23:01 SIZE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN WHAT ONE PROVIDES IN
10:23:05 A RITZ CARLTON LUXURY PRODUCT.
10:23:09 IN WHICH THE UNITS ARE A LOT LARGER.
10:23:12 AND THEREFORE, WHEN WE DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS, ONCE WE
10:23:17 HAVE LARGER UNITS TO TURN THE BUILDING SIDE WAYS AND FACE
10:23:23 IT TO THE WATER, LIKE IT WOULD BE ALMOST IN EVERY MAJOR
10:23:28 WATERFRONT CITY, WHERE SUCH PRODUCT IS INTRODUCED.
10:23:32 AND WE ONLY HAVE FOUR UNITS PER FLOOR.
10:23:37 AND ALL, 100% OF OUR PRIMARY FACES ARE LOOKING OUT TO
10:23:43 HILLSBOROUGH BAY, AND THEY ARE NOT SIDE WAYS, SO THEY ARE
10:23:47 NOT LOOKING INTO THOSE WINDOWS THAT YOU SAW.
10:23:50 THEY ARE LOOKING OUT.
10:23:51 IN FACT, THE WAY THE LAYOUTS ARE DONE, THERE'S NO PRIMARY
10:23:58 VIEWS SIDEWAYS, SO IT WOULDN'T BE A MASTER BEDROOM
10:24:02 LOOKING INTO FACES THAT YOU SHOW ON THOSE WINDOWS.
10:24:08 THE ONLY WINDOW OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT IS A PRIMARY WINDOW,
10:24:14 THE CORNER REAR, WHERE WE HAVE A BEDROOM WITH W A DOUBLE
10:24:17 WINDOW ON THE CORNER, BUT ACTUALLY PROBABLY DO A WINDOW
10:24:23 FACING ONLY TO THE TOWNHOUSES AND NOT NECESSARILY TO THE
10:24:28 SIDE, BUT IT'S NOT THE PRIMARY WINDOW OF SORTS INFORM
10:24:34 THAT ONE BEDROOM.
10:24:36 THESE ARE UNITS THAT HAVE A MASTER AND A LIVING ROOM
10:24:39 FACING THE WATER, AND THE SECONDARY BEDROOMS FACING BACK.
10:24:43 SO THE VIEW INTO THAT NEIGHBOR IN THAT DIRECTION IS TO A
10:24:50 SERIES OF SECONDARY WINDOWS THAT ARE NOT THE PRIMARY
10:24:53 WINDOWS.
10:24:54 SO WE WERE CAREFUL IN OUR ARRANGEMENT.
10:24:59 THE LAST LINE IS REALLY 46 FEET AWAY, NOT 42.
10:25:02 BUT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE CORNER WINDOW OF THE LIVING
10:25:06 ROOM TO THE STOVALL, WE ACTUALLY PULLED THAT FURTHER, OUR
10:25:11 CORNER, WHERE THE LIVING ROOMS ARE TO 51 FEET, SO THAT
10:25:18 YOU CAN SEE WE PROVIDED -- THERE WERE ALSO GLASS
10:25:23 BALCONIES TO FURTHER ENHANCE THE PRIVACY SO ONE COULD
10:25:27 LOOK DOWN OR UP OR IN BETWEEN TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT
10:25:30 SO THAT WE WOULD CREATE THAT VERTICAL SOLID WALL THAT YOU
10:25:35 SAW WITH A SERIES OF OPENINGS, BUT IN FACT WE HAVE
10:25:38 ACTUALLY CREATED WHAT AMOUNTS TO A PRIVACY SHIELD.
10:25:46 WE MADE A SPECIAL EFFORT IN ORDER TO HULL PULL BACK THE
10:25:51 LIVING ROOMS TO CREATE A 51-FOOT DISTANCE TO THE LIVING
10:25:56 ROOMS.
10:25:56 SO THIS IS -- I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
10:25:59 SO TWO IMPORTANT POINTS.
10:26:03 ONE OF THEM, THIS IS A LUXURY PRODUCT THAT CAN AFFORD
10:26:08 LAYOUT IN A MANNER THAT ALL PRIMARY ROOMS ARE FACING
10:26:13 FORWARD TO THE BACK, AND NOT SIDEWAYS.
10:26:17 SECOND, THE PARTICULAR MODEL IS ONE THAT RELATED TO
10:26:26 SMALLER UNITS THAT WERE PLACED IN A BAR IN ORDER TO
10:26:32 PROVIDE LIGHT FOR A LOT OF SMALL UNITS.
10:26:36 SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY, THAT ACTUALLY OUR
10:26:41 LIVING ROOM IS PULLED BACK WITH RESPECT TO THE
10:26:46 NEIGHBORING LIVING ROOM, WHICH ACTUALLY IS PROJECTING
10:26:50 FORWARD, WHEN IN FACT BASED ON THE CURVATURE OF THE ROOM
10:26:54 WE COULD HAVE GONE FORWARD, BUT IN FACT WE EXPECT TO BE
10:27:00 SET BACK, AND THAT SHOW ON STOVALL DIAGONALLY TO DOWNTOWN
10:27:10 TAMPA, OUR BUILDING IS NOT INTERRUPTING THOSE WATER
10:27:13 VIEWS.
10:27:18 I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT I MAKE THIS CLARIFICATION
10:27:21 BECAUSE I DO THINK WE HAD THE SENSITIVITY TO MAKE THESE
10:27:25 EFFORTS THAT WERE SPECIFIC IN THAT SENSE, AND I DON'T
10:27:30 THINK WE CAN BE COMPARED WITH BUILDINGS THAT HAVE PRIMARY
10:27:33 WINDOWS ON THE SIDE.
10:27:36 WE DO NOT PROVIDE FOR THAT IN OUR BUILDING, AND ENSURE
10:27:44 THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL PRIVACY FOR THE STOVALL.
10:27:48 SO THESE WERE CONSIDERATIONS IN THE DESIGN, AND I THINK,
10:27:52 YES, WE DID PULL BACK BEHIND OUR SETBACKS FROM THE
10:27:57 BOULEVARD, AND WE DID OPEN UP THE CORNER, AND WE DID
10:28:02 SETBACK THE LAST LINE AT THE CORNER WHERE OUR LIVING
10:28:06 ROOMS ARE AN ADDITIONAL DISTANCE TO PROVIDE 51 FEET.
10:28:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:21 >>TRUETT GARDNER: MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S ONE MORE IMAGE ON
10:28:23 YOUR SCREEN, I BELIEVE, AND CAN YOU SEE THE IMAGE?
10:28:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE SLIDE 20 THAT SHOWS THE VIEW
10:28:34 CORRIDOR OVERHEAD OF BAYSHORE.
10:28:39 >>TRUETT GARDNER: YES.
10:28:40 THE ARCHITECT PUT THIS TOGETHER, SPECIFICALLY OUT OF
10:28:45 RESPECT FOR THEM, WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS EVERYTHING IN
10:28:49 BLUE, BEING PRESERVED.
10:28:52 THE ONLY SLIVER THAT'S IN WHITE OUTLINED BY THE RED --
10:29:02 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] AND IF YOU GO 360 DEGREES,
10:29:06 PRESERVING 360 WHICH IS 92% OF THEIR VIEWS WILL BE
10:29:11 PRESERVED.
10:29:15 I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE BY THANKING YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
10:29:18 YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:29:19 AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS ICONIC PROJECT.
10:29:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:24 ALL RIGHT.
10:29:29 MR. SHELBY, NOTHING ELSE FROM MR. VAKA OR ANYTHING.
10:29:33 THAT'S DONE.
10:29:33 ONLY THE PETITIONER WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND,
10:29:36 CORRECT?
10:29:37 ALL RIGHT.
10:29:40 THERE'S SOME FEEDBACK.
10:29:43 I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
10:29:44 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:29:51 I WANTED TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS WITH REGARD TO
10:29:56 THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU HEARD THIS EVENING, AND ITS
10:30:00 RELEVANCY OR LACK OF RELEVANCY.
10:30:05 AT THE BEGINNING, MR. HUDSON PRESENTED A SLIDE WITH
10:30:10 REGARD TO THE ANTICIPATED INCREASE OF PROPERTY TAXES TO
10:30:14 BE GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT.
10:30:18 I CAN SUBMIT TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WHILE INTERESTING, I
10:30:25 DON'T THINK IT FITS THE CRITERIA IN 27-136 OF THE CODE
10:30:31 THAT SETS OUT THE CRITERIA THAT APPLIES TO THE REQUESTED
10:30:37 PD REZONING.
10:30:39 LIKEWISE, WITH REGARD TO THE MILLION DOLLARS IN PUBLIC
10:30:44 ART TO BE DEDICATED OR THE URBAN PARK UNDER THE -- WHILE
10:30:51 AGAIN INTERESTING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY ARE NOT
10:30:58 RELEVANT.
10:30:59 THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THE CRITERION IN THE
10:31:02 CODE.
10:31:03 WITH REGARD TO THE COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC, THERE WERE
10:31:07 QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA
10:31:10 OF A RITZ CARLTON BRAND COMING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:31:15 AGAIN NOT RELEVANT TO BE THIS CRITERION, NEITHER THE FACT
10:31:20 THAT IT'S A RITZ CARLTON PLAN OR THE NUMBER OF TIMES IT
10:31:25 WAS REPEATED IN TONIGHT'S TESTIMONY.
10:31:27 THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH
10:31:30 REGARD TO ANTICIPATED ECONOMIC IMPACT.
10:31:33 AGAIN NOT RELEVANT.
10:31:34 NOT A BIG CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
10:31:37 THEN ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TALKED ABOUT THE NEED
10:31:40 TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE WITH SINGAPORE.
10:31:43 AGAIN NOT RELEVANT.
10:31:47 BRINGING A CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DELIBERATE THE
10:31:50 MERITS OF THIS APPLICATION, I ASK COUNCIL TO PAY SPECIAL
10:31:54 ATTENTION TO THE CRITERIA 227-136 WHICH IS CRITERIA UPON
10:32:02 WHICH YOU REVIEW APPLICATIONS FOR PD REZONING, AND ALSO
10:32:08 LOOK AT THE CRITERION SECTION 139 SECTION 4 WITH THE
10:32:14 WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
10:32:16 I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:32:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. WELLS?
10:32:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD LIKE THE CLERK TO PERHAPS
10:32:24 ASSIST IN ANY WAY AND ALSO ASK ANYBODY WHO IS NOT
10:32:29 SPEAKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ON MUTE, BECAUSE
10:32:32 THERE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN RECENTLY FEEDBACK THAT'S CAUSED
10:32:37 BY SOMEBODY'S MICROPHONE.
10:32:38 SO IF YOU ARE LISTENING IN -- THANK YOU.
10:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:32:47 >>BILL CARLSON: MS. WELLS, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION
10:32:54 ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE PD -- CORRECT ME IF I AM
10:32:58 WRONG -- AND THE PD, THE SPACE AND THE MEASUREMENTS, NOTE
10:33:04 THE TEXTURE, CORRECT?
10:33:07 THE TEXTURE IS NOT GUARANTEED, AND THE FACT THAT IT MIGHT
10:33:12 BE A RITZ BRAND, WE ALSO CAN'T COUNT ON THE FACT THAT IT
10:33:16 WOULD BE A CERTAIN ARCHITECT, CORRECT?
10:33:18 >>CATE WELLS: WITH REGARD TO THE TEAM BEFORE YOU WHILE
10:33:24 THEY ARE PART OF THE APPLICATION THERE IS NO GUARANTEE
10:33:26 THAT IS THE TEAM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP THIS
10:33:28 PARCEL.
10:33:30 WITH REGARD TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE
10:33:33 ITSELF, I WOULD ASK MARY SAMANIEGO TO ANSWER THAT
10:33:37 QUESTION BECAUSE YOU ARE ASKING FOR TESTIMONY.
10:33:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGNING.
10:33:47 MARY CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
10:33:48 YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:33:49 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:33:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:33:54 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
10:33:57 ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THIS TIME?
10:33:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO ASK BECAUSE IF THAT WAS
10:34:04 ONE QUESTION AND ONE ANSWER, IS THAT SUFFICIENT, MR.
10:34:06 GARDNER?
10:34:07 DO YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO YOUR
10:34:09 TESTIMONY IN REBUTTAL?
10:34:12 >>TRUETT GARDNER: WE DO NOT.
10:34:13 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
10:34:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR
10:34:17 QUESTIONS.
10:34:18 MAY I ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
10:34:24 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:27 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:34:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DIDN'T HEAR
10:34:30 THAT.
10:34:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WERE YOU MUTED?
10:34:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
10:34:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
10:34:40 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
10:34:43 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION,
10:34:46 WE HAVE NOW CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
10:34:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
10:34:53 ONE LAST REQUEST BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD, AND THAT IS TO
10:34:56 TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY NOW THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
10:34:59 CLOSED TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT HAS
10:35:04 BEEN PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL AND MADE AVAILABLE, NOW
10:35:10 ASKED TO BE PART OF THE RECORD.
10:35:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND ALL DOCUMENTS RECEIVED TO THIS
10:35:16 COUNCIL FROM MAIL OR PHONE OR WHATEVER RECORDS BE
10:35:19 RECEIVED AND FILED.
10:35:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:35:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL ON THAT TOO,
10:35:28 PLEASE?
10:35:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:35:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:35:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:35:42 >>CLERK: DINGFELDER?
10:35:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:35:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:35:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:35:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:36:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER SAYS YES AS WELL.
10:36:07 I HAD A TECHNICAL GLITCH.
10:36:10 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:36:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:36:14 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
10:36:16 ALL DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND FILED.
10:36:19 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
10:36:20 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, I WILL READ IT.
10:36:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S THE SUBSTITUTE.
10:36:37 DON'T FORGET.
10:36:39 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE I GO, I MEAN, I HEARD FROM A LOT OF
10:36:42 PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT.
10:36:44 PART OF ME SPEAKING ON MY PHONE.
10:36:45 THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY COMPUTER.
10:36:47 HEARING A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT INCLUDING SOME
10:36:49 VERY GOOD ATTORNEYS, MR. GEORGE VAKA WHO WE HAVE NEVER
10:36:54 SEEN BEFORE AT CITY COUNCIL AND HAS A STELLAR REPUTATION
10:36:57 AND USED TO WORK AT FOWLER WHITE, BANKER LOPEZ YEARS AGO,
10:37:03 WITH A STERLING REPUTATION, AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE
10:37:06 IN THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE USE.
10:37:11 THIS HAS NO BEARING ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE
10:37:13 A RITZ CARLTON AT ALL.
10:37:19 THAT HAS NO BEARING WHATSOEVER ON MY DECISION.
10:37:22 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN BE EXCITED
10:37:24 ABOUT.
10:37:25 WE ARE DOING THE USE, NOT THE NAME.
10:37:29 OF THE INSTITUTION.
10:37:31 THEY CAN SELL IT TO HOWARD JOHNSONS OR SOMETHING.
10:37:34 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE STILL AROUND BUT NOW WHAT I AM
10:37:37 SAYING.
10:37:37 BUT ULTIMATELY I THINK THE USE IS A REASONABLE ONE AND I
10:37:40 WILL BE READING THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE, IF I MAY, MR.
10:37:42 CHAIR.
10:37:43 I MOVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
10:37:45 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
10:37:48 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3105 BAY OAKS COURT IN THE CITY
10:37:53 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:37:54 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 35
10:37:58 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:38:00 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
10:38:03 ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:38:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL ADD TO THAT, IF
10:38:11 I MAY.
10:38:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:38:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SECOND IT.
10:38:16 AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FILE REZ 20-38, IF I REMEMBER,
10:38:21 NUMBER 19.
10:38:22 I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, SIR, THAT THE GOALS AND
10:38:26 OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED
10:38:31 DEVELOPMENT IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT AND
10:38:36 APPROPRIATE LOCATION WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD,
10:38:40 B, THAT THE PURPOSE IS TO PROMOTE EFFECTIVE AND
10:38:43 SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE, SECTION
10:38:50 27-136, THE SECTION THAT I AM GOING TO READ NOW IS
10:38:53 27-139.4 WITH THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS
10:38:57 UNIQUE AND THEREFORE IN NEED OF WAIVERS A, B, THAT THE
10:39:02 REQUESTED WAIVERS SHALL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF
10:39:06 OTHER PROPERTY WHICH WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
10:39:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:13 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I THANK OUR ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE CHARLIE
10:39:17 MIRANDA FOR THAT.
10:39:18 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:39:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST THING, MR. VIERA, TO INCLUDE
10:39:27 THAT PART OF THE MOTION, THE REVISION SHEET AND CHANGES
10:39:30 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, PLEASE.
10:39:33 >>LUIS VIERA: SO INCLUDED.
10:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:39:37 VIERA.
10:39:37 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:40 AND A HAND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:39:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, CAN I ARTICULATE THE
10:39:48 REASON WHY I MIGHT NOT BE VOTING WITH THE MOTION?
10:39:57 >> YES.
10:39:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:39:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THE QUESTION IS, I SUSPECT BY YOU
10:40:02 RAISING YOUR HAND, YOU ARE IN EFFECT WANT TO HAVE SOME
10:40:10 DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
10:40:11 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DID NOT ARTICULATE DISCUSSION ON
10:40:13 THE MOTION BUT OBVIOUSLY HE WILL DO THAT.
10:40:20 MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WAS YOUR INTENT AFTER ENTERTAINING A
10:40:23 MOTION, TO ASK COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:40:26 AND YOU RECOGNIZE MR. DINGFELDER?
10:40:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I DID.
10:40:29 WE ALREADY HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
10:40:31 AND IT IS OPEN TO DISCUSSION.
10:40:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, I DIDN'T WANT TO STEP ON
10:40:38 YOUR PROCESS AND --
10:40:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:40:46 THERE IS A SECOND TO THE MOTION.
10:40:47 AND COUNCIL CERTAINLY HAS -- EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A
10:40:51 RIGHT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
10:40:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT OFFERING ANY NEW EVIDENCE OR
10:40:57 ANYTHING ELSE.
10:40:58 WE HAVE HEARD THE EVIDENCE.
10:41:00 AND THERE'S TWO MAIN ISSUES THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
10:41:09 FIRST AS RELATED TOTAL TREE REMOVAL, THE PETITIONER IS
10:41:13 ASKING FOR A WAIVER ON THE TREE REMOVAL FROM 50% DOWN TO
10:41:20 20%, WHICH IS AT THE END OF THE DAY IS AN 80% REMOVAL OF
10:41:24 ALL TREES ON-SITE.
10:41:26 AND I DIDN'T HEAR COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO
10:41:33 JUSTIFY WHY THAT WAS NECESSARY.
10:41:36 AND SECOND, PERHAPS -- I WON'T SAY ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT
10:41:42 THAN THE OTHER, BUT THE SECOND REASON THAT I CAN'T
10:41:45 SUPPORT THE MOTION IS COMPATIBILITY.
10:41:49 I THINK THAT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO OBVIOUSLY WORLD
10:41:52 CLASS ARCHITECT, AND NOT QUESTIONING HIS ABILITIES BY ANY
10:42:01 MEANS, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T APPEAR THAT THEY WORKED CLOSELY
10:42:06 ENOUGH WITH THEIR NEW NEIGHBORS AND THE STOVALL.
10:42:11 I THINK THE STOVALL SHOWED THAT TAMPA IS NOT MIAMI.
10:42:15 WE ARE -- BAYSHORE IS NOT, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN.
10:42:25 THE CONSISTENCY AND THE COMPATIBILITY THAT EXISTS RIGHT
10:42:28 NOW AS SHOWN BY THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE
10:42:33 STOVALL FOLKS IS SIMPLY BY MR. VAKA AND MR. GROSS SHOWED
10:42:38 DISTANCE SEPARATIONS TYPICALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 90
10:42:42 TO 140 FEET UP AND DOWN THE BAYSHORE.
10:42:45 AND COMPATIBILITY IS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT I BELIEVE IS
10:42:50 IMPORTANT IN OUR EVALUATION OF ANY PD.
10:42:55 IT'S NOT TO SAY -- I DON'T HAVE ANY DESIRE TO DENY THIS
10:42:59 PROJECT.
10:43:00 I PREFER WE SEE IT CONTINUANCE WHERE, YOU NOTICE, WHEREBY
10:43:07 THE PETITIONER WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SLIGHTLY
10:43:11 MODIFY THEIR DESIGN.
10:43:12 THEY HAVE GOT FOUR ACRES TO WORK WITH.
10:43:16 AND THEY CAN -- THE ARCHITECT, MR. FORD, CLEARLY
10:43:24 TESTIFIED AT THE BEGINNING WHEN I ASKED HIM THAT THERE
10:43:26 WERE OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD PUSH THAT BAYSHORE BUILDING
10:43:30 FURTHER AWAY FROM THE STOVALL.
10:43:34 SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. GARDNER AND HIS FINE TEAM,
10:43:39 YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION AT THIS TIME.
10:43:46 I COULD SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE FOR THAT PURPOSE, BUT NOT
10:43:50 THIS MOTION.
10:43:51 THANK YOU.
10:43:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:54 WE HAVE A MOTION.
10:43:58 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:43:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN AND WHAT YOU
10:44:03 CAN'T DO.
10:44:06 I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. DINGFELDER ON POINT NUMBER TWO.
10:44:09 I THINK IT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT
10:44:16 BUILDING.
10:44:18 I LOOKED AT THE ONE PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE OPPOSITION.
10:44:23 AND I LOOKED AT THE BUILDING HOW CLOSE IT WAS AND FACING.
10:44:27 I COULD KIND OF SEE THE POINT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE.
10:44:34 I GUESS WE CAN'T MANDATE -- I WAS HOPING MR. GARDNER
10:44:40 WOULD HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND SAY THE, A TEXT
10:44:42 MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
10:44:47 I KNOW THERE ARE SOME LAWS AND SOME RULES BUT YOU STILL
10:44:50 HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH IT.
10:44:52 I WAS HOPING TO GET A LITTLE MORE OUT OF THAT AS A TEAM
10:44:57 AND SEE WHAT ELSE YOU CAN DO TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY IN
10:45:01 THE COMMUNITY.
10:45:02 SO I AM STILL ON THE FENCE AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:45:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:06 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:45:08 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:10 CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:45:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:45:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
10:45:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
10:45:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:45:25 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:45:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:45:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:45:32 >>ZACHARY GRECO: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES, DINGFELDER
10:45:35 AND CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:45:37 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
10:45:41 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
10:45:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:45 WOULD THE CLERK OR ANYONE LIKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK OR
10:45:49 WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST CONTINUE?
10:45:51 FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
10:45:52 ALL RIGHT.
10:45:53 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
10:45:55 YOU CAN PUT YOUR CAMERAS OFF AND YOUR MICROPHONES ON MUTE
10:45:59 BUT DO NOT LOG OUT OF THE MEETING.
10:46:01 THANK YOU.
10:46:01 FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
10:46:02 (RECESS)
10:46:05
10:46:04 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:52:14 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:52:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
10:52:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
10:52:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:52:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:52:25 ALL RIGHT.
10:52:26 WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS AGENDA.
10:52:28 WE HAVE FOUR MORE ITEMS.
10:52:30 THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER 20.
10:52:36 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:52:37 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN BUT DO YOU
10:52:45 WANT ME TO SWEAR AGAIN?
10:52:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:52:48 EVERY TIME.
10:52:48 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
10:52:52 >>CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN
10:52:55 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
10:52:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:57 MR. MANASSE.
10:52:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
10:53:01 COORDINATION.
10:53:02 ITEM NUMBER 20 IS FILE REZ 20-37, FOR THE PROPERTY
10:53:06 LOCATED AT 1808 EAST CARACAS STREET.
10:53:09 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS GOING FROM RS-60 TO PD FOR
10:53:13 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
10:53:15 I WILL DEFER TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.
10:53:17 PLEASE RETURN TO ME AFTERWARDS.
10:53:18 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:53:23 SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
10:53:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:53:37 GO AHEAD.
10:53:37 >> FILE 20-37 IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING
10:53:42 DISTRICT.
10:53:46 ALSO IN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
10:53:51 THE DESIGNATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT LOCATED IN
10:53:54 AN EVACUATION ZONE.
10:53:55 THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS GIDDENS PARK, AND
10:54:00 THERE IS A TRANSIT STOP .3 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT
10:54:03 SITE. THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
10:54:07 CARACAS STREET.
10:54:09 PIERSON AVENUE IS NORTH.
10:54:11 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
10:54:14 RESIDENTIAL 10.
10:54:15 10.
10:54:15 THERE'S NOT A LOT TO SHOW ON THIS MAP.
10:54:17 IT'S PREDOMINANT FUTURE LAND USE OF THE AREA.
10:54:21 I WOULD SAY IF THIS IS APPROVED, THE SUBJECT SITE, THE
10:54:28 SUBJECT SITE WILL BE 7.14 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS
10:54:32 CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING RESIDENTIAL 10 DENSITY.
10:54:35 AGAIN, THIS IS THE URBAN VILLAGE AND POLICY 1.1.17 SEEKS
10:54:42 TO DIRECT THE --
10:54:49 EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND IT WILL NOT ALTER THE
10:54:52 DEVELOPMENT DID PATTERN.
10:54:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:54:55 MR. MANASSE.
10:54:57 RYAN RUIN CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
10:55:04 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE REZ-20-37.
10:55:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:55:10 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:55:11 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 20, REZ 20-37, IS FOR THE
10:55:16 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1808 EAST CARACAS STREET.
10:55:19 THE APPLICANT IS AGAIN REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM RS-60 TO
10:55:23 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
10:55:25 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
10:55:26 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ONE LOT EAST OF NORTH 18th
10:55:29 STREET, EAST CARACAS STREET INTERSECTIONS.
10:55:33 ON THE NORTH SIDE -- I'M SORRY, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
10:55:36 STREET.
10:55:37 THE REQUIRED MINIMUM LET WIDTH IN THE RS-60 ZONING
10:55:41 DISTRICT IS 50 FEET WIDTH WITH A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT
10:55:44 MINIMUM LET AREA.
10:55:45 THE PROPOSED LOT ONE MEASURES 45.09 FEET BY 137.16 FEET,
10:55:52 THE TOTAL ALLOTTED AREA OF 1,683 SQUARE FEET AND THE
10:55:55 PROPOSED LOT 2 MEASURES 45.09 FEET BY 137.54 FEET WITH A
10:56:02 TOTAL LOT AREA OF 6,192 SQUARE FEET.
10:56:05 THEREFORE, THE ONLY WAY TO ALLOW FOR THE TWO BUILDABLE
10:56:09 LOTS IS TO REQUEST THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEFORE
10:56:11 YOU TONIGHT.
10:56:13 THESE LOTS WOULD NOT MEET THE MINIMUM RS-50 ZONING
10:56:16 DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS.
10:56:17 THE SETBACKS FOR LOT 1 ARE EAST 5 FEET, WEST 5 FEET, THE
10:56:22 NORTH OR THE REAR 20 FEET AND THE SOUTH WHICH WOULD BE
10:56:25 THE FRONT AT 42 FEET 4 INCHES, AND LOT 2 IS EAST AT 5
10:56:30 FEET, WEST AND 5 FEET, NORTH WHICH IS THE REAR AT 20
10:56:34 FEET, AND THE SOUTH WHICH IS THE FRONT AT 33 FEET 5
10:56:38 INCHES.
10:56:39 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 35 FEET, AND
10:56:42 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY ZONING DISTRICT RS-60 TO
10:56:46 THE NORTH, EAST AND WEST WITH DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
10:56:48 RESIDENCE AND ZONING DISTRICT RS-50 TO THE SOUTH WITH
10:56:53 DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES.
10:56:54 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, AND MUST
10:56:58 COMPLY WITH THE CODE AT TIME OF PERMITTING.
10:57:02 THERE ARE TWO WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUESTED TONIGHT BEFORE
10:57:05 YOU.
10:57:05 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK ONE OF THESE
10:57:10 WAIVERS COMES FROM THE URBAN DESIGN SECTION WHICH DID
10:57:13 FIND IT INCONSISTENT, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR THE
10:57:15 RECORD THAT URBAN DESIGN STAFF DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT
10:57:18 BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THE CURRENT PLACEMENT OF THE
10:57:20 DRIVEWAY AS IT'S PROPOSED, AND IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH
10:57:24 THE OVERLAY DISTRICT STANDARD AND STAFF INCORPORATING A
10:57:27 GARAGE OR CARPORT INTO THE DESIGN TO MEET THE STANDARD.
10:57:30 GIVEN THE DEPTH OF THE LOT, STAFF CAN HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE
10:57:37 FOR THE DESIGN.
10:57:38 NEXT WE'LL GO TO THE STAFF ANALYSIS WHICH INCLUDES THE
10:57:41 CONFORMING MAP WHICH IS ON THE SCREEN.
10:57:44 THE SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1926 WITH LOTS
10:57:47 THAT MEASURED IN WIDTH FROM 45 FEET TO 47.5 FEET AND IN
10:57:52 DEPTH OF 100 TO 137 FEET.
10:57:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU BLOW THAT UP AND TIGHTEN IT
10:58:00 UP ON THE SUBJECT LOT?
10:58:02 >>RYAN MANASSE: SURE.
10:58:03 DO YOU WANT TO LOSE THE CONCEPT HERE?
10:58:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MUCH BETTER.
10:58:11 NOW GO UP A LITTLE BIT.
10:58:15 RUIN RYAN YES, SIR.
10:58:21 THE OVERALL AREA, THE SUBDIVISION, THE AREA INCLUDED 584
10:58:28 TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
10:58:29 552 OR 95% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
10:58:33 OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 32 OR 5% DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
10:58:38 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
10:58:42 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT BAT EARN THE SUBJECT LOT
10:58:44 CONTAINS 6 TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND 6 OR 100% OF THOSE LOTS
10:58:48 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 100 FEET OR GREATER.
10:58:51 THE 1800 BLOCK OF EAST CARACAS STREET CONTAINS 5 TOTAL
10:58:55 ZONING LOTS WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND THE
10:58:58 BLOCK FACE ITSELF TWO LOTS WIDTHS GREATER THAN 50 FEET.
10:59:04 THE STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
10:59:06 IN THE STUDY AREA IS PROPOSED THE MAJORITY OF THE
10:59:09 LOCALITIES ARE 50 FEET OR GREATER IN WIDTH.
10:59:12 ONLY 5% OF THE OVERALL STUDY AREA HAS LOTS THAT ARE LESS
10:59:15 THAN 50 FEET IN WIDTH.
10:59:17 THE ENTIRE BLOCK FACE 100% OF IT HAS LOTS WHICH ARE 50
10:59:21 FEET WIDE, LOTS OR GREATER.
10:59:23 STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
10:59:26 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL AREA.
10:59:34 AGAIN THE CONFORMING MAP ON SCREEN SHOWS THE ANALYSIS
10:59:36 AREA AND THEN THE SUBJECT PARCEL AS COUNSELED DINGFELDER
10:59:39 WAS HAVING ME ZOOM IN BUT I WILL POINT OUT HERE IS THE
10:59:42 OUTLINED PROPERTY HATCHED IN BLACK.
10:59:45 THAT'S HATCHED IN BLACK.
10:59:46 THIS IS THE ZONING MAP AS YOU CAN SEE THE RS-60 ZONING
10:59:50 DISTRICT THAT THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN.
10:59:52 THE HATCHED AREA IN GREEN.
10:59:53 AND THEN RS-50 ABUTS TO THE SOUTH.
10:59:59 THE AERIAL MAP IN FRONT OF YOU SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
11:00:01 OUTLINED IN RED AND THEN THE THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER TO ALSO
11:00:05 IDENTIFY ANY HISTORIC LANDMARKS WHICH WOULD BE NATURAL OR
11:00:09 LOCAL.
11:00:09 THERE ARE NONE WITHIN THAT THOUSAND FOOT RADIUS.
11:00:12 THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
11:00:15 AND THIS IS THE OVERALL LOT THAT HAS THE TWO PROPERTIES
11:00:19 IN THE MIDDLE, ARE THE PROPOSED LOTS, AND THERE IS A
11:00:22 45-FOOT .09 WIDTH LOTS.
11:00:27 AND SOME ELEVATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:00:32 THIS WAS ERRONEOUSLY LEFT OUT OF THE STAFF REPORT.
11:00:35 NATURAL RESOURCES IS ON LINE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY
11:00:37 QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS TREE EVALUATION REPORT, BECAUSE
11:00:40 THERE WAS A GRAND TREE.
11:00:41 I JUST PUT IT IN THE SLIDE BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
11:00:45 QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT UP TO BE
11:00:48 REVIEWED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
11:00:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CAN'T READ THAT AT ALL.
11:00:52 I THOUGHT THERE WERE TWO GRAND TREES.
11:00:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: I CAN LET BILL BORES, IF YOU WANT ME TO
11:00:59 FINISH AND THEN BILL BORES CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
11:01:04 I CAN LEAVE THAT SLIDE UP IF YOU LIKE, SIR.
11:01:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BLOW IT UP.
11:01:12 MAKE IT WIDER.
11:01:13 THERE YOU GO.
11:01:14 >>RYAN MANASSE: I SEE BILL JUST LOGGED ON IF YOU WOULD
11:01:32 LIKE TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
11:01:35 BILL, WOULD YOU MIND GOING THROUGH THIS GRAND TREE
11:01:37 EVALUATION?
11:01:39 >>BILL BORES: THERE'S THREE GRAND TREES ON THIS
11:01:41 PROPERTY.
11:01:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, THIS IS A SEPARATE HEARING.
11:01:45 IF WE CAN GET HIM SWORN IN.
11:01:46 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:01:50 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
11:01:53 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:01:54 >> YES.
11:01:56 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:01:58 >> THERE'S THREE GRAND TREES ON THIS PROPERTY.
11:02:00 THEY ARE BORDERLINE CONSERVATION.
11:02:03 THEY ARE LABELED C 8.
11:02:05 IF THEY WERE C 9 THEY COULD BE AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED.
11:02:09 THEY ARE JUST GOOD ENOUGH TO CALL THEM PRESERVATION
11:02:13 WORTHY BUT THEY ARE NOT GREAT TREES.
11:02:14 THEY ARE LIVE OAKS.
11:02:18 I WAS ON-SITE.
11:02:19 I SAW SOME SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN ALL THREE OF THEM.
11:02:25 AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS.
11:02:27 AND SO I STUDIED THE HISTORICAL PHOTOS BACK TO 2007 ON
11:02:32 GOOGLE AND THEY WERE STILL IN DECLINE.
11:02:34 SO THEY ARE IN A DECLINE SPIRAL.
11:02:38 SO I TALKED TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT IT.
11:02:41 AND NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF, WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH
11:02:47 REMOVAL OF TWO OUT OF THE THREE AS LONG AS THEY KEPT ONE.
11:02:52 WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD BALANCE OF KEEPING ONE TREE,
11:02:57 LETTING TWO SUCCUMB TO DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE 20,
11:03:01 25% OF THE CANOPY LEFT.
11:03:04 IF THEY WERE LIVE TOKES OAKS, WE WERE LOOKING TO SAVE
11:03:13 TREE NUMBER 2 BECAUSE YOU CAN WORK AROUND THAT, THE
11:03:17 DRIVEWAY AROUND IT, AND NUMBER ONE, THE LARGEST ONE, IS
11:03:21 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING PATH.
11:03:24 AND WITH A HUGE SPREAD.
11:03:28 HOWEVER, THE TREES ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE TOGETHER ON THE
11:03:31 LOT.
11:03:33 THEY ARE SUBORDINATE TO ONE ANOTHER.
11:03:35 THERE'S SIGNIFICANT SHADING.
11:03:40 THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE CANOPY IS IN DECLINE.
11:03:43 THE OTHER REASON IS THE LOT NEXT DOOR IS HIGHER.
11:03:46 AND THIS LOT HAS BEEN COLLECTING WATER FOR A NUMBER OF
11:03:50 YEARS.
11:03:51 SO I THINK THE DECLINE IS TWO FOLD.
11:03:54 ONE, THEY ARE CLOSE TOGETHER.
11:03:55 TWO, POOR DRAINAGE.
11:03:58 AND LIVE OAKS LOVE WATER TO DRAIN AWAY FROM THEM.
11:04:02 SO WHEN I WAS ON-SITE I COULD SEE THAT.
11:04:11 IT WAS BACK IN MARCH WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP.
11:04:14 WE FOUND THE BALANCE HERE WOULD BE TO RETAIN ONE BECAUSE
11:04:17 THEY CAN WORK AROUND IT.
11:04:19 DON'T HAVE MAJOR HEARTBURN IF THEY TAKE OUT TREE NUMBER
11:04:22 ONE AND THREE.
11:04:30 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:04:35 GENTLEMAN?
11:04:36 ALL RIGHT.
11:04:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: MAY I CONTINUE?
11:04:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:04:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: SO JUST FINISHING UP ON THE SLIDES THAT
11:04:46 ARE BEFORE YOU, A PICTURE OF THE SITE.
11:04:47 THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF.
11:04:49 AND MAYBE THAT WILL HELP YOU OUT WITH SOME OF THE TREES
11:04:52 THAT BILL WAS DISCUSSING.
11:04:54 THIS IS JUST FACING NORTH.
11:04:55 AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS TO THE NORTH ARE
11:04:57 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:04:58 ALSO TO THE EAST AND WEST AND THE SOUTH.
11:05:02 THE WEST NEIGHBOR, AND THEN THE EAST NEIGHBOR THAT ABUTS
11:05:05 THIS PROPERTY OF THE
11:05:08 THEN THE SOUTH NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, ONE A
11:05:11 VACANT LOT AND THE OTHER A SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE.
11:05:14 THAT'S THE REZ 50 ZONING TO THE DISTRICT.
11:05:16 NOW THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION
11:05:18 AND WE FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF
11:05:20 TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
11:05:22 IF WOULD PLEASE, THE FRONT YARD BEING INCONSISTENT WITH
11:05:27 THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT STANDARD.
11:05:30 IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
11:05:32 APPLICATION, THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN
11:05:34 THE REVISION SHEET OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT WOULD BE
11:05:37 REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE
11:05:39 ORDINANCE.
11:05:39 AND PLANNING STAFF, NATURAL RESOURCES AS WELL AS
11:05:42 TRANSPORTATION ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
11:05:44 MAY HAVE.
11:05:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
11:05:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, CAN YOU PUT UP THE SITE PLAN?
11:05:55 SO WE CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN REGARD TO THE
11:05:59 DRIVEWAY ISSUE, AND NO GARAGE OR CARPORT OR WHAT?
11:06:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: SURE.
11:06:06 SO WHAT I AM REFERENCING IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU WILL
11:06:08 SEE ON PAGE NUMBER 3, URBAN DESIGN COMMENTS.
11:06:12 THEY DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE CODE SECTION
11:06:15 THAT REQUIRE THE PARKING AND THE DRIVEWAY, THE STRUCTURE
11:06:21 FROM THE ROAD TO THE FRONT FACE.
11:06:23 THEY DO NOT SHOW A GARAGE OR CARPORT.
11:06:31 AGAIN DUE TO THAT URBAN DESIGN STAFF DID NOT SUPPORT IT
11:06:34 DUE TOTE PLACEMENT OF THE DRIVEWAY AS PROPOSED, AND THEY
11:06:38 DID WANT -- THEY DID RECOMMEND INCORPORATING A GARAGE OR
11:06:41 CARPORT INTO THIS DESIGN TO MEET THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
11:06:45 DESIGN STANDARDS.
11:06:49 MAYBE ELEVATIONS WILL HELP OUT TOO.
11:06:51 LET ME DO THAT.
11:06:51 LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
11:06:53 AS YOU CAN SEE THE ELEVATION UP HERE IN THE FRONT OF THE
11:06:56 STRUCTURE, JUST A DRIVEWAY TO THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:07:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF
11:07:11 A BUNGALOW, ONE-STORY BUNGALOW LOOK TO IT.
11:07:14 I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD PUT -- I KNOW IT'S A VERY
11:07:21 NARROW LOT.
11:07:22 I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD PUT A CARPORT OR A GARAGE ON
11:07:26 A BUNGALOW-ISH STRUCTURE.
11:07:28 BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF INCONSISTENCY THERE.
11:07:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN.
11:07:34 SO AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, ALTHOUGH IT IS NARROW,
11:07:37 THE LOT IS LENGTHY.
11:07:39 IT'S 137 FEET COMPARED TO MOST RS-50 LOTS THAT MAY BE 50
11:07:44 BY 100 FEET.
11:07:45 SO AGAIN SPEAKING FOR URBAN DESIGN COMMENTS, AND THEIR
11:07:49 REVIEWERS THAT REVIEWED, PARTICULARLY PER THE CODE
11:07:53 SECTIONS, THAT THEY WANTED THAT IN PLACE TO MAKE IT MORE
11:07:56 OF THE ESSENCE OF THAT CODE SECTION FOR THE EAST TAMPA
11:08:00 OVERLAY.
11:08:00 AGAIN, THE LANE IS 137, SO MAYBE THEY COFFIN CORPORATED A
11:08:06 CARPORT OR GARAGE IN THEIR DESIGN SOMEHOW TO GET URBAN
11:08:10 DESIGN COMMENTS CONSISTENT.
11:08:14 I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT OR THE AGENT ANSWER ANY FURTHER
11:08:17 QUESTIONS ON THAT.
11:08:18 THEY MAY HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH URBAN DESIGN AT
11:08:21 THE TIME.
11:08:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY LAST QUESTION.
11:08:23 WHAT IS THE OVERLAY AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY SAY AS
11:08:29 RELATED TO THE GARAGE OR CARPORT?
11:08:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: I'LL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 3 OF
11:08:36 THE STAFF REPORT.
11:08:37 ITEM NUMBER 4 IS THE URBAN DESIGN SECTION.
11:08:39 SO THESE WOULD BE THE FINAL COMMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED
11:08:41 TO STAFF TO BE PLACED IN THIS REPORT.
11:08:46 IN THEIR REPORT THEY STATE THE SECTION 27-241-F, AND IT'S
11:08:52 IN REFERENCE TO PARKING, NO DRIVEWAY SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED
11:08:55 FROM THE ROAD TO THE FRONT YARD BASED ON THE PRINCIPAL
11:08:59 STRUCTURE UNLESS THE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO AN ATTACHED
11:09:01 GARAGE OR CARPORT.
11:09:02 SO THEY HAVE OUTLINED THE CODE SECTION FROM THE EAST
11:09:06 TAMPA OVERLAY WHICH DIRECTLY RELATES TO THEIR
11:09:08 INCONSISTENT FINDINGS, AS WELL AS THAT ITALICIZED BOLD
11:09:12 COMMENT FROM URBAN DESIGN THAT I STATED FOR THE RECORD
11:09:15 THAT THEY RECOMMENDED INCORPORATING THAT GARAGE OR
11:09:19 CARPORT INTO THE DESIGN.
11:09:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:09:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:09:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF MY
11:09:31 THUNDER BECAUSE I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE TAMPA OVERLAY.
11:09:37 FOR GARAGES, CARPORT.
11:09:41 I DOESN'T SEE THE DESIGN, ALSO, I BELIEVE YOU SAY ALMOST
11:09:46 90% OF THAT AREA IS 50% OF THE MASS OF THE LAND.
11:09:55 SO WITH THE 45 -- MOST OF THE PROPERTIES OVER THERE ARE
11:10:07 50 OR ABOVE, CORRECT?
11:10:08 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT, SIR.
11:10:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH THE AREA.
11:10:13 I SEE A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES WITH THIS DESIGN AND A LOT
11:10:16 OF INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE WHOLE PROJECT AS FAR AS THAT
11:10:20 STREET, THAT AREA.
11:10:21 IT'S JUST NOT CONSISTENT AT ALL THAT I CAN SEE.
11:10:25 I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS
11:10:28 AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME BUT I WILL HEAR FROM THE
11:10:30 PETITIONER.
11:10:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:33 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
11:10:35 MR. MANASSE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:10:39 >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, CHAIR.
11:10:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:42 PETITIONER?
11:10:43 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
11:10:46 CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
11:10:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:11:00 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WE TALKED
11:11:02 ABOUT BEFORE, AND WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH STAFF.
11:11:07 BUT LET ME POINT OUT FIRST OF ALL, THESE ARE PLATTED
11:11:12 LOTS.
11:11:12 AND THEY ARE PLATTED AT THE 47 -- BETWEEN 47 AND 45 FEET
11:11:17 WIDE.
11:11:18 SO WE ARE REESTABLISHING WHAT WAS PLATTED IN 1926.
11:11:23 NOW, WE CURVED THIS DRIVEWAY SO THAT IT WOULD SAVE THE
11:11:28 TREE, AND AGAIN WE WORKED WITH NATURAL RESOURCES TO DO
11:11:33 THAT.
11:11:34 THE OTHER TWO TREES THAT BILL BORES TALKED ABOUT, ONE IS
11:11:38 IN THE CENTER, THAT GOES ACROSS THOSE LOTS, AND IT'S IN
11:11:45 DECLINE, AND WHAT WE AGREED TO DO WAS TO PRESERVE THE
11:11:50 TREE IN THE FRONT, AND ENHANCE THAT.
11:11:54 NOW, LET ME SHOW YOU -- LET ME GO BACK TO THIS SCREEN.
11:12:08 CAN YOU SEE THAT?
11:12:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
11:12:11 >>STEVE MICHELINI: OKAY.
11:12:13 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE ANALYSIS IS HUGE, BECAUSE WHAT'S
11:12:18 HAPPENED IS THEY HAVE ADDED ALL OF THE LOTS, COMMERCIAL
11:12:22 LOT, WHICH ARE LARGE.
11:12:24 THEY HAVEN'T REALLY INCLUDED THESE OTHER LOTS, AND THEY
11:12:29 HAVE DILUTED THE IMPACT OF THE LOTS DOWN HERE, WHICH ARE
11:12:33 50-FOOT OR LESS IN SIZE, AND THESE THAT ARE DIRECTLY
11:12:40 ADJACENT TO THE NORTH, AND TO THE SOUTH.
11:12:43 AND THEN LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR RADIUS
11:12:48 MAP.
11:12:49 IS THAT UP ON THE SCREEN NOW?
11:12:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT IS.
11:12:54 >>STEVE MICHELINI: OKAY.
11:12:55 OUT OF 33 LOTS THAT WERE NOTICED, 19 OF THEM ARE OF A
11:13:01 SIMILAR SIZE OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
11:13:03 SO THAT TAKES THE PERCENTAGE OF THE LOTS THAT ARE
11:13:08 IMMEDIATELY IN THE AREA AND THE ONES THAT WE RECEIVED
11:13:11 NOTICE FOR, THAT INCREASES THE PERCENTAGE TO ABOUT 54% OF
11:13:16 THE LOTS THAT ARE THERE.
11:13:21 ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID WAS LOOK AROUND --
11:13:30 LET ME SHOW YOU THIS.
11:13:32 THESE ARE HOMES THAT WERE ALL BUILT WITHIN 2018, 2019,
11:13:39 AND AS I SCROLL THROUGH THEM, THIS IS KIND OF THE STYLE
11:13:43 THAT WE WERE PROPOSING WITH THIS BUNGALOW STYLE.
11:13:47 NONE OF THEM HAVE GARAGES.
11:13:49 THEY ALL HAVE DRIVEWAYS.
11:13:52 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE NICE BUNGALOWS WITH
11:13:55 DRIVEWAYS ON THE SIDE AND NO GARAGES.
11:14:00 I JUST PULLED SEVEN EXAMPLES OF THOSE.
11:14:05 AND THIS IS WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO BUILD, WHICH WAS
11:14:10 THE BUNGALOW THAT MR. DINGFELDER REFERRED TO, REFERRED
11:14:15 BACK TO EARLIER.
11:14:19 LET ME GET THESE OFF UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO LEAVE THEM
11:14:22 OFF.
11:14:22 I WILL TAKE THEM BACK DOWN SO WE CAN SEE SOME OTHER
11:14:26 THINGS HERE.
11:14:31 THERE WE GO.
11:14:34 I READ THROUGH THE EAST TAMPA REPORT AND THEIR STRATEGIC
11:14:39 PLAN.
11:14:39 VERY THOROUGHLY.
11:14:41 AND THEIR ANALYSIS IS THAT THEY ARE PROMOTING AND WANT TO
11:14:46 PROMOTE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND FOR
11:14:51 RENTALS.
11:14:52 AND I SPOKE TO ED JOHNSON ABOUT IT, AND I HAVE A LETTER
11:14:58 FROM HIM INDICATING TOP PRIORITY -- AND I WILL PUT THAT
11:15:04 OAT SCREEN -- THAT THE MAJOR PRIORITIES OF EAST TAMPA IS
11:15:07 TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE AND MARKET BASED HOUSING WITHIN THE
11:15:10 DESIGNATED HOUSING.
11:15:14 WE WORKED VERY HARD WITH ALL OF THE STAFF TO TRY TO MEET
11:15:19 THOSE NEEDS.
11:15:20 NOW, THIS IS NOT A LARGE TRACT TRACK DEVELOPMENT. THIS
11:15:23 IS AN IN-FILL PROJECT.
11:15:24 AND IN ORDER TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE, WE DELETED THE
11:15:27 GARAGE.
11:15:28 THE GARAGE ADDS 15 TO $20,000 IN COST TO THIS HOUSE.
11:15:33 AND I KNOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY SENSITIVE TO TRYING TO
11:15:37 TAKE THE COST DOWN REGARDING THESE STRUCTURES.
11:15:41 IF WE ARE FORCED TO ADD THAT BACK INTO THIS PLAN, WE HAVE
11:15:45 THE ABILITY TO DO IT, BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND, IT'S GOING
11:15:50 TO ADD ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY $200 A MONTH TO WHATEVER
11:15:57 YOUR MORTGAGE COST IS.
11:15:59 WE TRIED TO DETERMINE THAT THIS IS IN HARMONY, AND I
11:16:04 THINK BY LOOKING AT THE MAP WITH THE ADJACENT STRUCTURES,
11:16:08 YOU CAN SEE THE DESIGN IS COMPATIBLE.
11:16:11 IT IS IN HARMONY.
11:16:13 WE ARE NOT INTERFERING REQUEST THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
11:16:17 IT IS COMPATIBLE.
11:16:19 AND THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE CRA PLAN WAS TO PROVIDE
11:16:23 SOME TYPE OF HOUSING FOR THESE VACANT LOTS TO TAKE THEM
11:16:26 OUT OF THEIR VACANT STATUS AND BEGIN PROVIDING USABLE AND
11:16:31 VALUABLE HOUSES FOR THE RESIDENTS.
11:16:36 THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES CONDUCTED THE SURVEY.
11:16:40 TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITY WAS.
11:16:43 THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS TO PROVIDE IN-FILL HOUSING.
11:16:45 AND AGAIN, YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE LARGER TRACT
11:16:49 DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAME IN, AND YOU HEARD A LOT OF
11:16:51 CRITICISM ABOUT THAT HAPPENING.
11:16:53 THESE ARE CUSTOM HOMES.
11:16:55 THEY ARE SMALLER IN SCALE.
11:16:57 AND THEY ARE EXACTLY THE WAY THIS AREA WAS PLATTED AND
11:17:00 WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE.
11:17:03 AGAIN, THE EAST TAMPA STRATEGY WAS TO PROVIDE HIGH
11:17:07 QUALITY HOMEOWNER UNITS, AND SO WE ARE SQUEEZED BETWEEN
11:17:13 HAVING TO PROVIDE A HIGH QUALITY UNIT AND THE COST OF THE
11:17:18 DEVELOPMENT.
11:17:20 WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO IMPROVE THE HOUSING STOCK, WHICH
11:17:23 IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE CRA OBJECTIVES.
11:17:28 WE PROMOTED THE ADDITION AND SUSTAINABLE LAND USE AS IS
11:17:33 PLANNED.
11:17:33 WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE EAST TAMPA PLAN.
11:17:36 EXCEPT FOR THE GARAGE.
11:17:38 I MEAN, WE ARE ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION ON THE GARAGE.
11:17:40 AND IF COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO
11:17:45 ADD BACK IN, WE CAN ADD IT BACK IN, AS LONG AS YOU
11:17:48 UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE COST OF THOSE
11:17:50 AFFORDABLE UNITS.
11:17:54 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL PLATTING OF 1926.
11:17:58 THE LOTS ARE VERY DEEP.
11:18:00 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 6,100 PLUS SQUARE FEET ON EACH OF
11:18:06 THESE LOTS.
11:18:06 SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE FRONTAGE WIDTH AS IT IS THE
11:18:10 OVERALL DEPTH OF THE LOTS.
11:18:13 WE ALSO WERE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
11:18:17 THE R-10 DESIGNATION, AND ALL OF YOUR OTHER GOALS THAT I
11:18:22 KNOW ALL OF YOU TALKED ABOUT, HOW DO YOU GET EAST TAMPA
11:18:26 REDEVELOPED?
11:18:26 WELL, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
11:18:29 LOOK AT AND WEIGH IN ON AND DECIDE WHAT IS MOST
11:18:33 IMPORTANT?
11:18:35 AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK THAT LOOKS NICE, AND IT'S MORE
11:18:42 SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AS OPPOSED
11:18:44 TO THE SHOTGUN HOUSES THAT YOU HAVE DOWN IN YBOR CITY.
11:18:50 AS I SHOWED YOU ON THE SCREEN THERE, THERE ARE NUMEROUS
11:18:54 EXAMPLES OF OTHER HOMES BUILT WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS
11:18:57 THAT DON'T HAVE GARAGE.
11:19:00 NOW, THEY DIDN'T GO TO YOU FOR A REZONING.
11:19:02 AND I AM NOT SURE HOW THEY GOT APPROVED WITHOUT THE
11:19:05 GARAGE.
11:19:06 BUT THEY DID.
11:19:07 AND THEY ARE THERE.
11:19:09 I GAVE YOU SEVEN EXAMPLES OF HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT
11:19:13 WITHIN TWO YEARS.
11:19:15 THE LOT PATTERN CONNECTION IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY
11:19:18 PLATTED, AND IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR LAND USE POLICIES
11:19:22 9.2, 9.2.1, 9.3, 9.3.8, 9.5, 9.5.1.
11:19:32 SO THERE IS SIGNIFICANT AND SUBSTANTIAL DOCUMENTATION
11:19:38 REGARDING YOUR PLANS. AND ARE SUPPORTED -- AND SUPPORT
11:19:42 THIS POSITION.
11:19:44 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRA REPORT WHICH WAS DONE IN 2009, THE
11:19:48 PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AND REUSE OF
11:19:51 PRECEDENT-SETTING FOR PLATTED LOTS PROMOTE AND ADVANCE
11:19:56 THE REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH THE AREA, AND PROMOTE AND
11:19:59 PRESERVE THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, AND ALSO SAYS
11:20:03 NONRESIDENTIAL, BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S RESIDENTIAL, USES
11:20:06 WITHIN THE AREA.
11:20:09 AS I SAID, THIS WAS A RESIDENT-DRIVEN ANALYSIS, AND THEY
11:20:16 CAME BACK AND SAID THAT BASICALLY THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD
11:20:20 LIKE TO SEE.
11:20:21 NOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S A FAIR ANALYSIS WHEN YOU INCLUDE
11:20:27 PROPERTIES ALL THE WAY UP TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE FOR
11:20:31 COMPARISON TO WHAT IS COMPATIBLE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA
11:20:36 THAT'S ALMOST FIVE BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH.
11:20:41 SO I CAN'T COMPARE AND I CAN'T COMPETE WITH THE SIZE OF
11:20:45 THOSE PROPERTIES.
11:20:47 AND IT SKEW IT IS ANALYSIS WAY OUT OF PROPORTION FOR
11:20:52 RESIDENTIAL USES.
11:20:53 SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON
11:20:57 THE GARAGE ISSUE.
11:20:59 I THINK THAT OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE 100% COMPATIBLE.
11:21:05 WE WORKED WITH NATURAL RESOURCES REGARDING THE TREE
11:21:08 REMOVAL AND THE TREE ENHANCEMENT THAT HAS TO GO BACK IN.
11:21:13 AND AGAIN, AS I SAID, RESTORING THE ORIGINAL PLATTED
11:21:17 LOTS.
11:21:18 I SPOKE WITH -- I THINK I GOT TWO OR THREE PHONE CALLS,
11:21:23 AND THEY WERE EXTREMELY HAPPY THAT IT WAS SINGLE-FAMILY
11:21:26 RESIDENTIAL GOING BACK IN THERE, AND I ALSO MET WITH THE
11:21:31 NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET.
11:21:32 THEY WERE HAPPY AS WELL.
11:21:35 I HAVE ASKED EACH ONE OF THEM THAT WILL CALLED ME WHETHER
11:21:37 THEY CARED IF THERE WAS A GARAGE OR NOT, AND THEY DIDN'T
11:21:40 HAVE ANY FEELING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
11:21:44 JUST IN SUMMARY, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THE TREES THAT
11:21:50 ARE THERE, THE WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED, THE
11:21:55 WAIVER IS IN HARMONY AND SERVE IT IS GENERAL PURPOSE AND
11:21:58 INTENT OF THIS CHAPTER, AND ALLOWING THE WAIVER WILL
11:22:00 RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING DONE REGARDING THIS
11:22:04 PROJECT.
11:22:04 THIS PARTICULAR BUILDER IS A SMALL BUILDER, AND WAS --
11:22:13 [NO ENCODER]
11:22:15 [NO ENCODER]
11:22:29 -- THIS PROJECT IS VALUABLE AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED
11:22:38 FAVORABLE.
11:22:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE.
11:22:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:22:45 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT FOR THE RECORD THAT SOME OF THE
11:22:47 PHOTOS THAT WERE SHOWN BY MR. MICHELINI SHOWED GOING TO
11:22:50 THE SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE, AND AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO
11:22:53 POINT OUT PAGE 3 OF THE STAFF REPORT UNDER THE URBAN
11:22:55 DESIGN SECTION THAT REFERENCES THE PARKING, SECTION
11:22:58 27-241-F, IT STATES IN REFERENCE TO PARKING NO DRIVEWAY
11:23:03 SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE ROAD TO THE FRONT YARD
11:23:05 BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE UNLESS PROVIDING
11:23:08 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO AN ATTACHED GARAGE OR CARPORT.
11:23:11 THE ONLY REASON I AM STATING THIS IS BECAUSE I WANT TO
11:23:14 MAKE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD IT WAS STATED BY MR. MICHELINI
11:23:16 THAT OTHER PLACES WERE APPROVED WITH THAT.
11:23:18 MAYBE THAT WAS THE REASON BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAY WAS GOING
11:23:21 TO THE SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:23:22 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
11:23:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
11:23:26 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:23:30 ALL RIGHT.
11:23:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MICHELINI, YOU STRESSED ABOUT THE
11:23:38 GARAGE AND YOU SAID IT WOULD COST $20,000.
11:23:41 IT'S PROBABLY FAIRLY ACCURATE, BUT YOU DIDN'T MENTION
11:23:45 MUCH IN THE WAY OF CARPORT.
11:23:48 MAYBE A CARPORT WOULD BE A COMPROMISE.
11:23:52 WOULD A CARPORT STILL MEET THE URBAN DESIGN STANDARD, BUT
11:23:55 A CARPORT DOESN'T COST AS MUCH.
11:23:57 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I THINK THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU GO BACK
11:24:02 TO THE SITE PLAN, AND I CAN PUT IT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN.
11:24:08 IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, YOU HAVE TO TAKE -- IS
11:24:14 MY CURSOR SHOWING?
11:24:19 DO YOU SEE MY CURSOR?
11:24:23 IT WOULD STILL THAN THE SAME AMOUNT OF ROOFLINE.
11:24:25 SO WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS YOU ARE ELIMINATING ONE SIDEWALL
11:24:30 AND PERHAPS YOU CONVERT THE FRONT INTO SOME KIND OF A
11:24:36 DOOR.
11:24:37 BUT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO KEEP WITH THE BUNGALOW STYLE,
11:24:44 IT'S VERY HARD -- IF YOU GO WITH THE BUNGALOW STYLE, IT'S
11:24:50 VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT.
11:24:53 SO YOU ARE TAKING OUT THE FRONT ROOM FOR A GARAGE OR A
11:24:57 CARPORT.
11:25:01 WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT, IF COUNCIL FEELS STRONGLY ABOUT
11:25:04 INCORPORATING A CARPORT OR A GARAGE.
11:25:10 WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
11:25:13 IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APPROVAL AND NON-APPROVAL.
11:25:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT INTRUDING INTO
11:25:19 THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.
11:25:22 I WAS TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE CARPORT OUT IN FRONT OF
11:25:27 THE RECTANGULAR HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DESIGNED.
11:25:32 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES WON'T LET
11:25:37 YOU DO THAT.
11:25:38 IT HAS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE BUILDING.
11:25:41 YOU CAN'T PROTRUDE OUT IN FRONT.
11:25:45 WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ONE, TOO.
11:25:46 BUT THEN WE HAVE GOT TO BE CAREFUL OF THE CANOPY OF THAT
11:25:49 TREE WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE.
11:25:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT TRUE, RYAN, THAT THE URBAN
11:25:56 DESIGN STANDARDS REQUIRE THE CARPORT BE TUCKED INTO THE
11:26:02 HOUSE?
11:26:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: INTEGRATED, YES, SIR.
11:26:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW WHAT INTEGRATED MEANS.
11:26:08 >>RYAN MANASSE: I KNOW MR. MICHELINI DID HAVE A LOT OF
11:26:10 CONVERSATION WITH URBAN DESIGN STAFF IN REFERENCE TO THIS
11:26:13 CARPORT OR GARAGE, IT DOES HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE ENVELOPE
11:26:16 OF THAT STRUCTURE.
11:26:17 URBAN DESIGN WAS FAVORABLE OF IT BEING PLACED SMACK DAB
11:26:23 IN FRONT OF THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE.
11:26:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:26:28 THANK YOU.
11:26:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:26:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM FAMILIAR.
11:26:37 ALL OF THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT NOW IN EAST TAMPA
11:26:40 HAVE GARAGES.
11:26:41 THEY DON'T HAVE GARAGE.
11:26:44 THE DESIGN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, CARPORTS.
11:26:48 NORTH TAMPA AREA, YES, THE DESIGN IS CARPORTS.
11:26:52 BUT DOWN IN EAST TAMPA THERE'S NO CARPORTS.
11:26:56 THE REASON THEY WANT GARAGES IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED
11:27:00 PUBLIC AREAS TO GIVE THAT BEAUTIFICATION OF THE
11:27:02 COMMUNITY.
11:27:03 THAT'S WHY THEY CHANGED THE OVERLAY TO MAKE SURE THAT
11:27:09 GARAGES WERE BUILT.
11:27:10 THAT STRIP THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THOSE LOTS ARE BIG
11:27:13 LOTS.
11:27:15 AND IT'S NOT CONSISTENT -- THIS DESIGN WAS BEING BUILT OR
11:27:20 WHAT'S THERE NOW SO I STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LOT.
11:27:23 AND I STILL HAVE AN ISSUE THAT YOU DOES NOT MEAN EAST
11:27:25 TAMPA -- MOAT EAST TAMPA OVERLAY.
11:27:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MICHELINI, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK?
11:27:33 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE CAN CERTAINLY COMMIT TO CHANGING
11:27:34 AND INCORPORATING THE GARAGE.
11:27:35 IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT DESIGN OF A HOME.
11:27:39 BUT WE CAN INCORPORATE A GARAGE INTO THE FRONT SO THAT WE
11:27:42 MEET THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
11:27:47 I CERTAINLY WOULD APPRECIATE CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.
11:27:51 AND WE CAN MAKE A GARAGE GO IN THERE.
11:27:55 I JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
11:27:59 BUT WE'LL MAKE IT LOOK NICE.
11:28:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:28:03 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:28:04 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU CAN SEE THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND
11:28:08 SECOND READING IF YOU APPROVE IT.
11:28:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S THE CASE.
11:28:13 THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
11:28:14 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
11:28:18 COORDINATION.
11:28:18 NO.
11:28:20 THE MODIFICATION WITH REGARDS TO REVIEWERS, CODE SECTION
11:28:25 147 C-5-8-2 REQUIRES TO THE BE CONTINUED TO AT LEAST FOUR
11:28:30 WEEKS WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO
11:28:33 SUBMIT REVISED PLANS NO LATER THAN -- GIVING STAFF 21
11:28:37 DAYS TO REVIEW THESE REVISED PLANS TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
11:28:41 ANOTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS -- IT WASN'T A
11:28:46 QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES BUT TO STATE FOR THE
11:28:48 RECORD, JUST BECAUSE THE GARAGE WOULD GO IN THE URBAN
11:28:51 DESIGN MAY GO AWAY AND BE OKAY WITH THAT, I STILL WANTS
11:28:53 TO POINT OUT THAT STAFF DID FIND THE OVERALL ANALYSIS
11:28:56 INCONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
11:28:58 >>STEVE MICHELINI: MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT IT WOULD
11:29:06 BE USEFUL IF WE REQUESTED A CONTINUE AN ON THIS TO
11:29:10 REVISIT THIS WITH STAFF, AND PROVIDE A DIFFERENT DESIGN
11:29:15 CONCEPT THAT MAY BE MORE FAVORABLY CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL.
11:29:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:29:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO
11:29:23 SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OR ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
11:29:26 CENTER? I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW.
11:29:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK OR
11:29:31 LIVE OR IN PERSON?
11:29:33 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
11:29:37 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:29:38 THERE IS NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
11:29:40 THANK YOU.
11:29:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:29:47 MR. MICHELINI, DO YOU REQUEST A CONTINUANCE?
11:29:51 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:29:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW LONG DO YOU NEED?
11:29:54 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL, STAFF IS INDICATING AT LEAST 30
11:29:57 DAYS, RIGHT, RYAN?
11:30:00 RYAN RUIN YES, SIR.
11:30:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN CONTINUE THIS TO -- CORRECT
11:30:06 ME IF IT'S VERY BUSY, MR. SHELBY, BUT THERE'S NOVEMBER
11:30:10 12.
11:30:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK NOVEMBER 12TH, UNLESS SOMEBODY
11:30:15 KNOWS MORE THAN I DO, I THINK WE CAN FIT THIS ONE IN FOR
11:30:19 NOVEMBER 12.
11:30:20 I DON'T NOT EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBER IS FOR NOVEMBER 12TH.
11:30:23 DOES ANYBODY FROM STAFF KNOW THE NUMBER?
11:30:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN --
11:30:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: WE HAVE ELEVEN CASES FOR NOVEMBER
11:30:32 12th.
11:30:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU WILL BE BACK IN SOME FORM OR
11:30:40 FASHION IN PERSON OR HYBRID BY THEN.
11:30:44 SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT, ADD THAT ADDITIONAL, GO
11:30:47 OVER YOUR TEN --
11:30:53 >>> NOVEMBER 10 IN THE EVENING.
11:30:54 WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, MR. MICHELINI?
11:30:58 >>STEVE MICHELINI: DECEMBER IS FINE.
11:30:59 I DOESN'T WANT TO BURDEN COUNCIL WITH BUILDING UP YOUR
11:31:03 AGENDA.
11:31:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT 6 P.M.
11:31:12 MR. DINGFELDER?
11:31:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE ONLY THING I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT
11:31:14 IS, MR. MANASSE POINTED OUT, THERE'S TWO ISSUES HERE.
11:31:19 THE FIRST ISSUE IS, ARE WE ENCOURAGING OR ALLOWING THE
11:31:24 LOT SPLIT?
11:31:25 BECAUSE -- AND I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES EVEN ALLUDED TO
11:31:29 THIS, FOR THAT PARTICULAR BLOCK FACE, AND I KNOW WE CAN
11:31:34 ARGUE ABOUT HOW WE MEASURE AND HOW FAR OUT WE GO, THIS
11:31:37 AND THAT.
11:31:40 IF YOU GO BLOCK FACE IS CONSISTENTLY, YOU KNOW,
11:31:45 DEFINITELY LARGER THAN 50 FEET AND LOOKS LIKE IT'S 60
11:31:50 FEET OR MORE.
11:31:50 AND MR. MANASSE TESTIFIED TO THAT.
11:31:56 SO I THINK -- YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:32:02 HAVE MR. MICHELINI COME BACK WITH A REVISED SITE PLAN, IF
11:32:06 WE ARE STILL GOING TO DENY IT ON THE BASIS OF THE LOT
11:32:09 SPLIT, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR TO HIM OR HIS
11:32:12 CLIENT.
11:32:12 SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE ON THAT
11:32:17 BASIS, BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE I SUPPORT THE LOT SPLIT.
11:32:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:32:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE SEEN TWO MAPS.
11:32:34 I SAW ONE MAP SHOWN BY THE CITY.
11:32:38 AND I SEE ANOTHER MAP THAT WAS SHOWN BY MR. MICHELINI.
11:32:42 THEY WERE BOTH DIFFERENT.
11:32:43 ONE SAID THAT THIS WAS THE AREA THAT INCLUDED THE LOT
11:32:48 FACE ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
11:32:50 MR. MICHELINI SHOWED ANOTHER MAP THE CRITERIA BASED ON
11:32:54 THE 200 FEET OF THE SURROUNDING LOTS OR PROPERTY BLOCK
11:32:57 THAT I BELIEVE WAS FIFTY-SOME PERCENT FOR THE SAME,
11:33:05 WHETHER THAT'S A FACTUAL OF WHAT I HEARD OR NOT, IT'S UP
11:33:07 TO DISCUSSION.
11:33:09 WHICH MAP IS CORRECT?
11:33:10 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WELL, IF YOU ARE ASKING ME, I WENT
11:33:17 THROUGH AND DETERMINED THE LOT SIZES WERE THE SAME AND
11:33:25 VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
11:33:27 IF YOU REMEMBER ON EVEN ON THE CITY'S MAP, THE TWO LOTS
11:33:31 TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER WERE ON THE SAME SIZE.
11:33:35 THE TWO LOTS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WERE VACANT BUT
11:33:39 THEY WERE OF THE SAME SIZE.
11:33:41 SO YOU HAD AT LEAST FOUR THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT
11:33:45 TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WERE EITHER THE SAME SIZE OR LESS.
11:33:52 I CAN PUT MY MAP BACK UP HERE.
11:33:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE WERE TWO THINGS FROM BOTH SIDE.
11:34:02 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:34:03 BUT I AM JUST GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY, TO ADDRESS
11:34:08 COUNCILMAN GUDES' CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING IN THERE.
11:34:11 THERE AREN'T ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA.
11:34:14 THERE ARE VACANT LOTS IN THE AREA.
11:34:16 AND THEY ARE SMALLER.
11:34:20 WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS.
11:34:23 I WOULD JUST LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE GO BACK TO STAFF
11:34:25 AND TRY TO WORK SOME OF THESE ISSUES OUT.
11:34:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE.
11:34:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: I DON'T MEAN TO DRAG THIS ON.
11:34:35 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN I CAN SHOW YOU OUR
11:34:38 CONFORMING MAP AGAIN BUT STAFF UTILIZES FOR ANY TYPE OF
11:34:42 REZONING IN THIS SCENARIO WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO A
11:34:44 SUBSTANDARD LOT IN A ZONING DISTRICT.
11:34:46 JUST TO BE CLEAR THIS IS WHAT STAFF USES AND PREVIOUSLY
11:34:49 DISCUSSED AT COUNCIL AS WELL, WE DO 13 20:FEET, AND THEN
11:34:53 WE TRY TO LOOK AT THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE WITH
11:34:59 THAT AS WELL.
11:34:59 AS YOU NOTICE, IT IS A LARGE PARCEL WITH A LOT OF PARCELS
11:35:03 INCLUDED IN THAT.
11:35:04 JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF, AGAIN IT IS
11:35:07 OUTLINED IN BLACK AND HATCHED.
11:35:10 THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES ARE ALL THE DARK ONES IN RED
11:35:13 WHICH IS 80 FEET TO 200-PLUS FEET.
11:35:17 THAT'S THE BLACK.
11:35:17 THIS BLUE COLOR IS 55 FEET TO 59 FEET.
11:35:22 EVEN THE LIGHT BLUE COLOR IS 50 FEET TO 504 FEET.
11:35:25 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHOW COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD THAT
11:35:28 THIS CONFORMING MAP IS WHAT STAFF USES FOR THE STAFF
11:35:30 ANALYSIS, AND THAT IS WHY WE DETERMINED IT TO
11:35:33 INCONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
11:35:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION TO
11:35:38 MYSELF, 1320 FEET IS A QUARTER OF A MILE.
11:35:41 440 YARDS.
11:35:43 AM I CORRECT?
11:35:44 >> YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR.
11:35:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN LOOKING AT YOUR MAP AND HIS MAP,
11:35:49 THE VARIANT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE HE'S GOING BY THE
11:35:56 LETTERS HE HAS TO SEND FOR 250 FEET AS THE CROW FLIES.
11:36:07 ACROSS THE STREET, THE SAME SIZE OR SMALLER?
11:36:10 >>RYAN MANASSE: NO, SIR.
11:36:11 AS YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS OUTLINED AGAIN HERE.
11:36:14 THE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH ARE THIS LIGHT RED.
11:36:17 AND THEY WOULD BE 80 FEET TO 99 FEET.
11:36:26 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE ONES I AM REFERRING TO TO THE
11:36:28 EAST, AND UP HERE TO THE NORTH, AND OVER HERE.
11:36:35 I'M NOT DISPUTING THESE ARE LARGER LOTS.
11:36:37 BUT THEY HAVE SIDE YARDS THAT ARE COMPLETELY VACANT.
11:36:42 SO ANYWAY, WE WERE FOLLOWING THE EAST TAMPA CRA
11:36:47 GUIDELINES REGARDING THIS.
11:36:49 AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THE
11:36:51 CITY STAFF AND COME BACK WITH A BETTER PLAN.
11:36:54 BUT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE.
11:36:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:37:00 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM?
11:37:02 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED FOR CONTINUANCE.
11:37:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.
11:37:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:37:16 SECOND BY CITRO.
11:37:17 AND DECEMBER 10th AT 6 P.M., SIR?
11:37:21 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:37:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DECEMBER 10th AT 6 P.M.
11:37:23 ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE CONTINUANCE.
11:37:25 WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
11:37:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:37:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME MAKE ONE COMMENT
11:37:33 BEFORE I GIVE MY VOTE.
11:37:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:37:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T
11:37:40 DO.
11:37:41 I STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LOT SIZE.
11:37:43 I AM GOING TO BE FRANK.
11:37:45 I WILL GO TO VOTE TO CONTINUE IT BUT I AM GOING TO BE
11:37:48 FRANK THAT I AM LOOKING AT THAT LOT SIZE AND LOOKING AT
11:37:52 THE STREET, NORTH AND SOUTH.
11:37:53 I KNOW HOW THAT IS CONFIGURED AND I BELIEVE THE CONCEPT
11:37:56 WE HAVE WILL BE OUT OF STEP WITH THE OVERLAY DESIGN OF
11:38:02 EAST TAMPA.
11:38:04 AND SO I WILL VOTE FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THIS MOTION HERE,
11:38:07 BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, I AM GOING TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT
11:38:14 CONCEPT.
11:38:15 >>CLERK: GUDES?
11:38:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:38:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOING TO RESPECTFULLY VOTE NO
11:38:23 BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TO THE DESIGN, YOU CAN'T
11:38:26 CHANGE THE LOT SIZE.
11:38:28 AND I JUST THINK YOU AND YOUR CLIENT WILL BE GOING TO A
11:38:34 LOT OF TROUBLE AND AT THE END OF THE DAY I WOULD STILL
11:38:37 VOTE NO, NO MATTER WHAT THE LOT SIZE IS.
11:38:41 BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT SPLIT.
11:38:43 SO I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.
11:38:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:38:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:38:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:38:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:38:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
11:38:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 21.
11:39:05 MR. MANASSE.
11:39:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE APPLICANT HERE?
11:39:16 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S ME.
11:39:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, YOU AGAIN, MR. MICHELINI.
11:39:19 OKAY.
11:39:19 >>ZACHARY GRECO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:39:26 ONE MORE PERSON.
11:39:44 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE
11:39:47 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:39:50 >> I DO.
11:39:51 >> I DO.
11:39:52 >>CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN
11:39:54 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
11:39:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:56 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN.
11:40:00 ITEM NUMBER 21 IS FILE REZ 20-39 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
11:40:04 AT 4502 NORTH B STREET.
11:40:07 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
11:40:10 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
11:40:13 ATTACHED.
11:40:14 I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO JENNIFER FROM THE PLANNING
11:40:15 COMMISSION AND THEN PLEASE RETURN TO ME SO I CAN FINISH
11:40:18 MY REPORT.
11:40:19 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:40:24 I ASK TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
11:40:38 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:40:39 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT.
11:40:43 I APOLOGIZE.
11:40:52 IT IS WITHIN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT.
11:40:56 HART ROUTE 30.
11:41:04 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE THAT IS ALONG NORTH
11:41:08 B STREET, NORTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
11:41:11 THERE ARE SOME COMMERCIAL USES ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
11:41:15 KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS AN EMPHASIS CORRIDOR WITH A LOT OF
11:41:18 COMMERCIAL USES AND TRANSITION TO ATTACHED HOUSING MIX AS
11:41:26 WE MOVE NORTH.
11:41:30 THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL
11:41:32 20.
11:41:34 THIS FUTURE LAND USE, A BLOW-OUT OF THE AERIAL TO GIVE AN
11:41:43 IDEA OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
11:41:44 WE HAVE THE WESTSHORE MALL WHICH IS REGIONAL MIXED USE
11:41:48 100 IN THE AREA, THE PARCEL THAT WILL LOOK FAMILIAR TO
11:41:51 YOU, WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER TONIGHT, THE RESIDENTIAL
11:41:53 35, THE RESIDENTIAL 20, RESIDENTIAL 35 AGAIN, ALONG WEST
11:41:57 KENNEDY BOULEVARD 60.
11:42:04 SO THIS IS A CONCENTRATION OF THESE HIGHER LAND USE
11:42:09 DESIGNATIONS IN THE AREA.
11:42:10 WESTSHORE IN THE PLAN, AND GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT
11:42:15 OPTIONS AND EMPLOYMENT OPTIONS SUPPORTED BY THE PLAN, SO
11:42:21 I WOULD JUST ALSO NOTE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO
11:42:28 SUPPORTS ENCOURAGING DENSITY THAT SUPPORTS SERVICES, IS
11:42:34 CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE
11:42:36 DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL 20.
11:42:40 WHEN I WAS WRITING THIS REPORT I DID REVIEW A LOT OF
11:42:45 REZONING REQUESTS, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES
11:42:49 SUPPORT THE TRANSITION OF THIS AREA AS IDENTIFIED BY THAT
11:42:52 UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, AND THERE'S ALSO
11:42:55 THAT RESIDENTIAL 35 IN THE AREA EVEN HIGHER.
11:43:04 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND
11:43:08 THEREFORE COMPATIBLE AND IT WOULD BE FURTHERING THE
11:43:15 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:43:16 THANK YOU.
11:43:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU CHAIR.
11:43:20 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 21 IS FILE REZ 20-39 AND LET ME KNOW
11:43:25 WHEN YOU SEE THAT TITLE SCREEN UP.
11:43:27 EXCELLENT.
11:43:28 AGAIN THE PETITIONER IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY
11:43:31 LOCATED AT 4502 NORTH B STREET FROM SINGLE-FAMILY
11:43:35 RESIDENTIAL RS-50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PD, TO
11:43:37 CONSTRUCT FIVE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNITS.
11:43:40 THE .39-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER
11:43:43 OF NORTH B STREET AND HESPERIDES STREET INTERSECTION.
11:43:47 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
11:43:49 DWELLINGS TO THE NORTH AND THE RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY
11:43:51 RM-12 AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT
11:43:56 DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS TO THE SOUTH IN THE
11:43:59 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT AND RM-18
11:44:03 ZONING DISTRICT.
11:44:04 AND ALSO THESE ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS TO THE
11:44:07 EAST AND WEST IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
11:44:10 THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED FOR FIVE THREE-STORY BUILDING
11:44:15 TOWNHOUSE STYLES RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
11:44:17 EACH UNIT CONTAINING A TWO CAR GARAGE.
11:44:19 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE IN THE SOUTH TWO FEET, WEST 15
11:44:23 FEET, EAST 18 FEET, AND THE NORTH 3 FEET.
11:44:26 THE PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT IS SET AT 35 PER THE SITE
11:44:29 PLAN.
11:44:30 A TOTAL OF 11 PARKING SPACES INCLUDING GUEST SPACES ARE
11:44:34 REQUIRED, AND ARE PROVIDED THROUGH ACCOMMODATION OF
11:44:38 GARAGE AND SURFACE PARKING.
11:44:42 THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS BEFORE YOU, COME FROM THE
11:44:46 TRANSPORTATION, AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU THAT
11:44:51 THE REZONING MAP ITSELF WHERE THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS
11:44:54 LOCATED IS HATCHED IN GREEN, AND JENNIFER POINTED OUT THE
11:44:59 SURROUNDING AREAS BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A MIXTURE OF CG
11:45:02 TO THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY WITH SOME OF
11:45:05 THESE PDS BEING SIMILAR STYLE BUILDINGS ATTACHED IN THE
11:45:08 AREA, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
11:45:11 AND THEN THE AERIAL MAP, THE TAMPANIA HOUSE IS A HISTORIC
11:45:19 LANDMARK WITHIN THE 1,000 FOOT AREA, AND THAT'S WHAT THE
11:45:20 LINE IS SHOWING HERE, AND THEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
11:45:22 OUTLINED IN RED.
11:45:23 THE SITE PLAN ITSELF IS SHOWING THE FOUR UNITS THAT ARE
11:45:26 LOCATED HERE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, AND THEN THE FIFTH
11:45:29 AT THIS OTHER END, THAT IS WHERE THE DRIVE ACCESS IS ON
11:45:33 NORTH B STREET.
11:45:36 THE ELEVATIONS, I HAVE THEM ON BOTH SIDE OF THE SCREEN SO
11:45:40 THE INTERIOR AND THE REAR ASKED THAT THEY LABEL THEM AS
11:45:44 CARDINAL DIRECTION, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST BETWEEN
11:45:47 FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD IT BE APPROVED.
11:45:49 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF, THE PICTURES THAT WERE
11:45:52 TAKEN FROM THE SITE VISIT.
11:45:55 THE EAST NEIGHBOR, THE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS OVER
11:45:58 HERE TO THE EAST AND THEN AS WELL AS TO THE NORTH.
11:46:02 AND THE WEST NEIGHBOR AGAIN A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
11:46:05 DWELLING UNIT.
11:46:06 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE HAS REVIEWED THE
11:46:10 PEAT PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
11:46:12 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
11:46:15 PLEASE REFERENCE THE FINDINGS BUILT TRANSPORTATION
11:46:16 DIVISION RELATED TO THE DIVISION AND REQUIRED PARKING.
11:46:19 SHOULD IT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
11:46:21 WAIVER AND THE APPLICATION PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, THERE
11:46:23 ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
11:46:26 SECOND READING, AND THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE REVISION
11:46:30 SHEET.
11:46:31 AND IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN ANY ORDINANCE EXPLAINED
11:46:37 HERE, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE,
11:46:39 AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND TRANSPORTATION.
11:46:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME?
11:46:48 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
11:46:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION.
11:46:54 JUST AN OBSERVATION.
11:46:57 LOOKING AT THE TREE REPORT, MR. BORES, LOOKS LIKE THE
11:47:04 TREE IS SIMILAR, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE C-8, WHICH WAS
11:47:11 C-7 A MINUTE AGO, ABOUT AS LOW AS YOU CAN GO, AND WAS
11:47:18 THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD ON THAT, BILL?
11:47:21 >> BILL BORES: YES.
11:47:30 SWEAR ME IN, PLEASE.
11:47:31 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
11:47:32 >> YES.
11:47:38 THIS TREE HAS A PRESENCE.
11:47:43 THE ISSUE WITH THIS TREE IS IT'S MISSING A SUBSTANTIAL
11:47:47 PORTION OF ITS CANOPY DUE TO OVERHEAD LINES.
11:47:51 IT'S A PERMANENT YOU-SHAPED V-SHAPE PATH THAT TOOK OUT
11:47:58 ITS PRIMARY BRANCHES.
11:48:00 SO THE BRANCHES ARE STILL FALLING OFF 70, 80 FEET FROM
11:48:06 THE GROUND.
11:48:08 SOUTH TOWARDS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
11:48:11 THE MAJOR LIMBS, THE OVERHEAD LINE, INSTEAD OF THE TREE.
11:48:19 SO IT'S A LIVE OAK.
11:48:22 THE POSITIVE, THE TREE CAN LIVE FOR A LONG TIME.
11:48:26 THE NEGATIVE IS IT'S NOT GOT THE NATURAL CHARACTERISTIC
11:48:31 FORM OF A BELTRE ANYMORE.
11:48:33 IT'S BEEN HALLOWED OUT THE OVERHEAD LINE WHICH IS
11:48:38 PERMANENT.
11:48:38 THEY HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK AND ENCOURAGING THAT LINE
11:48:41 CLEARANCE, AND THE RESULTING GROWTH IS WEAKLY ATTACHED
11:48:48 SPROUTS THAT BREAK OFF READILY.
11:48:50 SO IT'S A MIXED BAG ON THIS ONE.
11:48:57 IT'S NOT THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
11:48:59 PUT THAT THE WAY.
11:49:02 BUT FUNCTIONALLY IT'S A HEALTHY TREE.
11:49:06 STRUCTURALLY, IT'S BEEN DEGRADED DUE TO THE SEVERE
11:49:12 CONTINUAL PRUNING OF THE TREE.
11:49:14 SO YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S A HAZARDOUS TREE BECAUSE IT'S NOT.
11:49:17 IT'S JUST NOT IN THE RIGHT SPOT.
11:49:20 IT'S ONLY TWO FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK HERE.
11:49:24 IT DOESN'T HAVE AN ICONIC APPEARANCE BUT IT HAS A CREST
11:49:28 58-INCH DIAMETER TRUNK. SO ON THIS ONE IT'S A CLOSE
11:49:36 CALL.
11:49:37 YOU CAN MAKE STRONG ARGUMENTS TO RETAIN IT.
11:49:40 YOU CAN MAKE ARGUMENTS TO REMOVE IT.
11:49:46 AND IF YOU REMOVE IT, MY RECOMMENDATION AND NATURAL
11:49:50 RESOURCES RECOMMENDATION IS TO PERHAPS REPLACEMENT TREES,
11:49:59 TO GET SOME QUICK CANOPY BACK THERE.
11:50:05 18 TO 20 --
11:50:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
11:50:08 CAN YOU PUT THE ORDER OF THOSE TREES UP AGAIN?
11:50:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOMEWHERE IN THE STAFF REPORT IT SAYS
11:50:15 THEY ONLY WANTED TO DO TWO INCH TREES.
11:50:18 >> YES.
11:50:24 AND RECONFIGURATION OPTIONS HERE TO TRY TO WORK AROUND
11:50:29 THIS TREE.
11:50:31 AND THE APPLICANT WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU.
11:50:38 SO IT'S THEIR JOB TO DETERMINE WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO GO
11:50:42 WITH IT.
11:50:43 I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TREE NOW.
11:50:46 AND THAT IT'S REALLY A CLOSE CALL WHETHER TO RETAIN IT OR
11:50:49 REMOVE IT.
11:50:50 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
11:50:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
11:50:58 WHEN YOU WENT AND OBSERVED THE TREE, I AM LOOKING AT THE
11:51:00 STREET, THE SIDEWALK.
11:51:02 ARE THE ROOTS OF THAT TREE CAUSING DEFECTS TO THAT ROAD
11:51:06 RIGHT THERE?
11:51:07 >> BILL BORES: YES, THEY ARE.
11:51:11 THEY HAVE MASSIVE ROOTING SPACE TO SUPPORT THAT MASSIVE
11:51:15 TREE.
11:51:15 SO THEY ARE UNDER THE ROAD, AND YES, THEY ARE DEGRADING
11:51:19 THAT ROAD.
11:51:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S GOING TO BUST THAT SIDEWALK UP.
11:51:25 >>BILL BORES: THAT'S WHAT TREES DO.
11:51:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
11:51:34 HEARING NOTHING ELSE, MR. MICHELINI.
11:51:37 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:51:39 LET ME GO THROUGH THIS BASIC PROPOSAL FIRST.
11:51:42 THEN I WILL SHOW YOU WHY THAT TREE REALLY CAN'T BE SAVED.
11:51:47 I ALSO HAVE RICKY PETERIKA WITH ME FOR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
11:51:52 REGARDING THE CONDITION OF THE TREE, AND AS YOU KNOW,
11:51:57 HE'S A CERTIFIED ARBORIST.
11:52:00 THIS LOT WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF SEVEN UNITS, AND
11:52:05 WE CAUGHT IT -- CUT IT BACK TO SIX UNITS.
11:52:08 WE COULDN'T GET SIX UNITS.
11:52:10 WE CUT IT BACK TO FIVE UNITS WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE
11:52:12 PROPOSING WITH YOU TONIGHT.
11:52:15 AND WE PREPARED THREE OPTIONS WHICH WE PRESENTED TO BILL
11:52:21 BORES.
11:52:21 ONE OPTION SHOWS, WHICH IS THE ONE WE PREFER, SHOWS THE
11:52:25 FIVE UNITS, AND LET ME PUT THAT UP ON YOUR SCREEN.
11:52:30 IT'S OPTION NUMBER ONE, AND IT SHOWS THAT THE TREE, WHICH
11:52:34 WOULD BE RIGHT HERE, WAS BEING REMOVED.
11:52:38 OPTION TWO HAD FOUR UNITS, AND IT STILL IS GOING TO
11:52:44 IMPACT THAT TREE.
11:52:44 AND I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU WHY IN JUST A MINUTE.
11:52:47 AND OPTION 3 WAS A UNIT UNDERNEATH THE TREE BUT IT STILL
11:52:54 IS NOT REALLY COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
11:52:57 LET ME SHOW YOU WHY THIS TREE HAS GOT TO BE REMOVED.
11:53:10 IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THOSE POWER LINES ARE, ALL THIS SIDE
11:53:13 OF THE TREE WOULD HAVE TO BE PRUNED OUT.
11:53:15 IT'S ALREADY IN WHAT WAS CLASSIFIED --
11:53:19 >>CATE WELLS: IF YOU ARE SHARING YOUR SCREEN, WE DON'T
11:53:23 SEE IT.
11:53:24 >>STEVE MICHELINI: OKAY.
11:53:25 WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
11:53:29 I DON'T KNOW WHY.
11:53:36 THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING UP HERE THAT SAYS SHARE
11:53:42 MY SCREEN BUT I DON'T SEE IT.
11:53:46 OH, NOW IT'S SHOWING.
11:53:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, NOW WE CAN SEE IT.
11:53:59 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THERE WE GO.
11:54:02 THIS WHOLE SIDE OF THE TREE IS INSIDE THE PROPERTY, AND
11:54:09 WOULD HAVE TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY TRIMMED.
11:54:12 WE HAVE THIS SIDE WHICH IS OVERHANGING.
11:54:15 ONCE YOU START TRIMMING ON THIS SIDE, YOU REMOVE THE
11:54:19 BALANCE OF THE TREE, AND AS COUNCILMAN GUDES ALREADY
11:54:23 POINTED OUT, THIS ROOT SYSTEM, IT'S ABOUT A FOOT AND A
11:54:27 HALF OFF OF THE SIDEWALK, THE TWO FEET.
11:54:31 IT'S ALREADY DESTROYING THAT SIDEWALK.
11:54:33 WE CERTAINLY WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO UPSIZING THE
11:54:37 REPLACEMENT TREES AND GETTING A NICE TREE CANOPY IN
11:54:41 THERE.
11:54:41 AND IF YOU RECALL ON THE NEW CODE, IT ENCOURAGES YOU TO
11:54:46 PUT IN NEW CANOPIES AND NEW GROWTH TO REFOREST THE CITY.
11:54:53 SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
11:54:57 WE'LL UPGRADE THAT.
11:54:59 WITH RESPECT TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S REQUEST
11:55:02 FOR A WAIVER, WE ARE SHOWING TWO PARKING SPACES INSIDE
11:55:10 THE GARAGE.
11:55:11 IS IT SHOWING ON THE SCREEN?
11:55:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE SEE IT.
11:55:15 >>STEVE MICHELINI: AND WE ARE SHOWING TWO CARS IN THE
11:55:16 DRIVEWAY WHICH MEET THE CODE.
11:55:18 THERE IS AN INTERPRETATION BY TRANSPORTATION THAT WE NEED
11:55:22 THE WAIVER FOR THOSE TWO CARS TO COUNT AS GUEST PARKING.
11:55:32 SO RESPECTFULLY WE ARE REQUESTING THAT TO HAPPEN.
11:55:34 AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS POINTED OUT, THEY HAVE
11:55:38 FOUND THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR CODE, AND WE ARE
11:55:45 PROVIDING THE GUEST PARKING THAT'S IN THE DRIVEWAY, PLUS
11:55:48 A TWO-CAR IN THE GARAGE.
11:55:52 I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH OF THE TREE, IF
11:56:00 I CAN GET IT TO COME OVER HERE.
11:56:04 I DON'T THINK -- THERE WE GO.
11:56:11 YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOT SIGNIFICANT -- IT'S NOT IN THAT
11:56:17 GREAT A SHAPE.
11:56:19 YOU SEE THE POWER LINES GOING THROUGH HERE.
11:56:21 AND AS BILL POINTED OUT, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE
11:56:25 IMPACTED BY TECO.
11:56:30 IT BARELY MEETS THE SEPARATION NOW FROM THE WIRES TO THE
11:56:33 TREE LIMBS.
11:56:35 AND AGAIN, WITH THE STORMS THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE GOING TO
11:56:41 SEE MORE SIGNIFICANT CUTTING BACK OF THAT.
11:56:46 THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE WEST SIDE LOOKING EAST.
11:56:53 AND YOU CAN SEE THE POWER LINES HERE.
11:56:56 YOU CAN SEE HOW SIGNIFICANT THIS TREE HAS BEEN IMPACTED
11:57:00 ALREADY.
11:57:03 WE WOULD AGREE TO UPSIZING THE REPLACEMENT TREES AND
11:57:08 ADDING TO THE REFORESTATION AND THE TREE CANOPY.
11:57:13 AND I GUESS I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:57:16 BUT I WILL GO THROUGH THESE BRIEF STATEMENTS, DOES IT
11:57:20 PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF THE LAND AND
11:57:23 INFRASTRUCTURE?
11:57:24 YES, WE BELIEVE IT DOES.
11:57:26 WE HAVE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF ALLOWABLE UNITS FROM SEVEN
11:57:29 TO FIVE.
11:57:30 IT ALLOWS THE INTEGRATION OF DIFFERENT LAND USES AND
11:57:32 DENSITIES.
11:57:33 THIS AREA IS ALREADY UNDERGOING REDEVELOPMENT FOR MEDIUM
11:57:39 DENSITY REDEVELOPMENT FOR TOWNHOUSES.
11:57:43 ENCOURAGES THE FLEXIBLE USE AND DEVELOPMENT AND REDUCES
11:57:47 THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, WE ARE WITHIN LESS THAN HALF A
11:57:51 MILE OF THE TRANSIT CENTER.
11:57:53 AT LEAST WE BELIEVE THE TRANSIT CENTER.
11:57:56 IT PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT OF APPROPRIATE
11:57:58 LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY.
11:58:01 IT IS COMPATIBILITY AND IT IS IN AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION
11:58:05 FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
11:58:07 PROMOTING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND ELEMENTS.
11:58:10 WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS COMPATIBLE AND WE ARE
11:58:13 RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT YOU ADOPT OPTION ONE, WHICH
11:58:17 SHOWS THE FIVE UNITS.
11:58:18 AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OTHER THAN WHAT I
11:58:21 HAVE PRESENTED REGARDING THE TREES, RICKY PETERIKA IS
11:58:26 AVAILABLE.
11:58:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:58:28 PETITIONER?
11:58:34 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT
11:58:36 THE CONVENTION CENTER OR REGISTERED ONLINE?
11:58:40 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
11:58:45 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:58:46 THERE IS NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
11:58:48 THANK YOU.
11:58:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:51 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME?
11:58:56 IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
11:58:59 >> SO MOVED.
11:59:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:59:03 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:59:04 ANY OBJECTION?
11:59:05 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
11:59:08 NOW CLOSED.
11:59:09 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE SUBSTITUTE
11:59:12 RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 21?
11:59:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL READ THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION,
11:59:17 MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:59:18 FILE NUMBER 21.
11:59:19 REZ 20-39.
11:59:22 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:59:24 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
11:59:27 VICINITY OF 4502 WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE CITY OF
11:59:31 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
11:59:33 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
11:59:36 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL
11:59:39 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:59:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:59:47 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:59:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:59:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:59:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:00:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:00:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:00:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:00:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:00:04 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:00:06 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
12:00:09 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
12:00:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:00:16 ITEM NUMBER 22.
12:00:37 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
12:00:40 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
12:00:44 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
12:00:45 >> YES.
12:00:45 >>THE CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
12:00:48 WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
12:00:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND
12:00:53 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
12:00:54 THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 22.
12:00:56 IT'S REZ 20-32.
12:00:58 THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3015 WEST SPRUCE STREET FROM
12:01:03 RS-50 TO PD.
12:01:05 I DEFER TO JENNIFER MALONE.
12:01:06 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU, MARY.
12:01:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:01:15 WE CAN SEE THE SCREEN.
12:01:16 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
12:01:19 PLANNING DISTRICT WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
12:01:21 WE ARE ON WEST SPRUCE STREET AND JUST EAST OF NORTH
12:01:26 MacDILL AVENUE.
12:01:27 THIS IS A TYPICALLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:01:30 THIS IS A SCHOOL TO THE NORTH.
12:01:32 THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 10, WHICH IS -- THE
12:01:38 ORANGE COLOR.
12:01:39 WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
12:01:42 PLAN.
12:01:43 THIS IS ENCOURAGING GROWTH IN OUR URBAN VILLAGES AND IT
12:01:46 IS -- AND IF IT IS APPROVED, THE DENSITY WOULD STILL BE
12:01:49 CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING DENSITY THAT'S PLANNED FOR
12:01:53 IN THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
12:01:56 THIS WILL BE AN OVERALL DENSITY OF TEN UNITS PER ACRE --
12:02:02 AGAIN THE PLAN SEEKS TO DIRECT THE -- TO THE URBAN
12:02:07 VILLAGES, WHICH THIS WOULD DO.
12:02:09 WE DID FIND IS WOULD NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE
12:02:14 NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING
12:02:16 OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
12:02:19 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:02:20 THANK YOU.
12:02:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:02:21 MARY.
12:02:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
12:02:24 CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
12:02:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.
12:02:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: AGAIN, REZ 20-32.
12:02:35 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF HAS FOUND THIS CONSISTENT
12:02:39 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND
12:02:42 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
12:02:44 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
12:02:47 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A PORTION OF TWO LOTS AND
12:02:52 ENTIRETY OF A THIRD IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
12:02:56 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE CREATION OF TWO LOTS.
12:03:01 THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 47 FEET IN WIDTH BY 95 FEET IN
12:03:05 DEPTH.
12:03:06 EACH LOT WILL TOTAL 4,866 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
12:03:10 THE REQUIRED MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF THE EXISTING RS 50
12:03:15 DISTRICT, 50 FEET IN WIDTH BY 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
12:03:19 THEREFORE, THE ONLY WAY TO CREATE TWO BUILDABLE LOTS IS
12:03:22 THROUGH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT UNDER SINGLE OWNERSHIP,
12:03:25 WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THE REZONING TONIGHT.
12:03:27 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE
12:03:30 14 FROM THE FRONT, 5 FROM THE SIDE, AND 15 FROM THE REAR
12:03:34 WITH THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.
12:03:37 BOTH OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS WERE -- ACCESS THE
12:03:42 EXISTING ALLEY TO THE REAR.
12:03:44 IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY STANDARDS.
12:03:47 AGAIN, IN AN EFFORT TO COMPLY WITH THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY
12:03:54 STANDARDS AND NOT HAVE DRIVEWAYS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE
12:03:57 EAST TAMPA DEAD ENDING INTO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THE
12:04:03 APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH STAFF OVER SEVERAL MONTHS TO
12:04:06 COME UP WITH THIS FINALIZED DESIGN WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS
12:04:10 COME OFF THE ALLEY TO THE REAR, AND THEN THAT PUSHES THE
12:04:13 BUILDING FORWARD TO THE 14-FOOT SETBACK, AS WE INDICATED.
12:04:17 I WILL STATE, AND IT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT URBAN
12:04:21 DESIGN DID FIND THIS APPLICATION CONSISTENT.
12:04:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:04:26 ANY QUESTIONS?
12:04:28 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'M NOT FINISHED.
12:04:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY.
12:04:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'LL GO QUICKLY.
12:04:33 HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
12:04:35 THE ANALYSIS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, 132 ZONING LOTS
12:04:40 WERE REVIEWED.
12:04:41 78% WERE GREATER THAN 50 FEET, AND 22% WERE LESS THAN 50
12:04:46 FEET.
12:04:46 AGAIN, PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW, THE SUBJECT BLOCK ITSELF
12:04:52 CONTAINED 20 ZONING LOTS, 60% WERE GREATER THAN 50 FEET
12:04:59 IN WIDTH AND 8 OR 40% WERE LESS THAN 50 FEET.
12:05:03 HOWEVER, THE BLOCK FACE TOTAL OF 32% THAT WERE GREATER
12:05:11 THAN 50 FEET, BUT 68 WERE LESS THAN.
12:05:17 ZOOM IN AND LET ME SHOW YOU.
12:05:19 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THE RED, THE BLACK
12:05:25 HASHMARKS.
12:05:26 THE GRAY COLOR, THOSE ARE THE HISTORICALLY PLATTED
12:05:28 33-FOOT LOTS WHICH IS HOW THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION WAS
12:05:32 PLATTED BACK IN 1909.
12:05:34 THIS IS THE MacFARLANE PARK SUBDIVISION.
12:05:36 AGAIN, THOSE LOTS WERE HISTORICALLY PLATTED VERY SMALL,
12:05:40 SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ALL THE GRAY COLORS, THE SMALLER
12:05:45 LOT WIDTHS, AGAIN, THESE TWO LOTS ARE PROPOSED AT 47
12:05:49 FEET.
12:05:50 AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE LEGEND, LIGHT GRAY IS LESS THAN 33
12:05:55 -- 34 FEET, WHICH AGAIN IS THE HISTORIC 33 FEET.
12:06:01 THEN THE LIGHTER BLUE IS 44-FOOT LOTS.
12:06:05 YOU CAN SEE IN THIS BLOCK AREA, THE CREATION OF THE TWO
12:06:09 47 LOTS WOULD BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THAT LOT PATTERN.
12:06:12 THERE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
12:06:18 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
12:06:19 ACROSS THE STREET ON SPRUCE STREET AND TO THE EAST OF THE
12:06:23 SUBJECT PROPERTY AND TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
12:06:27 AND TO THE EAST.
12:06:28 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:06:30 AGAIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT OR PLANNING DESIGN AND
12:06:32 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT,
12:06:36 AND THERE WERE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
12:06:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:06:42 HEARING NONE, PETITIONER?
12:06:46 I SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN.
12:06:50 >> YES.
12:06:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:06:59 >> HELLO, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
12:07:03 THANK YOU AND MARY FOR THE PRESENTATION.
12:07:08 MY NAME IS ALEXANDER CASTANEDA.
12:07:11 MY FATHER, ALEXANDER CASTANEDA.
12:07:14 I'LL BE SPEAKING BECAUSE HE IS THE ON OF THE PROPERTY.
12:07:17 I'LL BE THE ONE THAT SPEAKS ENGLISH.
12:07:20 AND I'LL BE TRANSLATING FOR HIM SO HE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT
12:07:24 WE'RE SAYING.
12:07:25 MARY BASICALLY SAID WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.
12:07:30 WE PLAN TO DIVIDE THE LOT IN HALF.
12:07:32 THERE'S GOING TO BE -- WE DIVIDE IN HALF, 47 FEET.
12:07:37 EACH LOT IS GOING TO HAVE 47 FEET IN WIDTH.
12:07:43 ON THE SAME STREET, BUILT ON THE ORIGINAL -- IT'S LIKE 30
12:07:56 TO 35 FEET WIDE.
12:08:04 WE'RE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
12:08:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
12:08:09 APPLICANTS?
12:08:10 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:08:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
12:08:16 MR. CASTANEDA, YOU SENT OUT NOTICES TO THE NEIGHBORS
12:08:22 AROUND THE PROPERTY?
12:08:24 CORRECT?
12:08:26 >> YES, I DID.
12:08:27 YES.
12:08:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU GET ANY RESPONSES BACK?
12:08:31 ANYBODY OBJECT?
12:08:34 ANYBODY HAVE CONCERNS?
12:08:36 >> NO.
12:08:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
12:08:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:41 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:08:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SIT HERE AND I AMAZE MYSELF THAT WE
12:08:51 JUST HEARD ONE WITH 47 FEET AND ANOTHER ONE IN WEST TAMPA
12:08:56 47 FEET.
12:08:57 SOUTH TAMPA, THEY WOULD NEVER EVEN BE CONSIDERED.
12:09:00 SO WE EITHER HAVE A CITY OR WE HAVE A CITY THAT'S DIVIDED
12:09:03 LIKE THE COUNTRY.
12:09:04 ONE OF THE TWO.
12:09:05 THANK YOU.
12:09:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:09:10 ANYBODY ELSE?
12:09:10 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, ITEM
12:09:14 NUMBER 22?
12:09:15 ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
12:09:16 ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK, ANY RECORDINGS?
12:09:19 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
12:09:23 >> AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NO
12:09:26 ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
12:09:28 THANK YOU.
12:09:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:09:31 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
12:09:33 ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
12:09:34 IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
12:09:37 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:09:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:09:39 MIRANDA.
12:09:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:09:41 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING?
12:09:43 HEARING NONE, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS
12:09:48 CONSENT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
12:09:51 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE
12:09:55 SUBSTITUTE FOR ITEM NUMBER 22?
12:09:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:09:58 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
12:09:59 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
12:10:05 CONSIDERATION.
12:10:05 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
12:10:07 3015 WEST SPRUCE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
12:10:11 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
12:10:13 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL,
12:10:16 SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
12:10:20 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:10:23 AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND IT IS
12:10:29 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:10:31 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN
12:10:34 PROMOTES OR ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN
12:10:38 LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
12:10:41 NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:10:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:10:44 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:10:51 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
12:10:54 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
12:10:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:10:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:10:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:10:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M GOING TO VOTE NO IN PROTEST.
12:11:03 47-FOOT, IF IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE REST OF THE CITY, IT
12:11:06 SHOULDN'T BE GOOD FOR WEST TAMPA.
12:11:08 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
12:11:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:11:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:11:19 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND CARLSON
12:11:22 VOTING NO.
12:11:23 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
12:11:26 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
12:11:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:11:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:11:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I RESPECT MR. MIRANDA'S OPINION, AND HE
12:11:37 WOULD BE CORRECT.
12:11:38 THE ONLY PROBLEM WE HAVE, APPARENTLY, ONE DISTRICT HAS A
12:11:42 RULE AND ANOTHER ONE DOESN'T.
12:11:43 SO, AGAIN, HE'S RIGHT.
12:11:46 WE ARE A PLACE DIVIDED AND SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO COME TO A
12:11:49 CONSENSUS IN THE CITY AS HOW WE'LL BE TOGETHER AS ONE.
12:11:55 I HAD TO VOTE THIS WAY BECAUSE --
12:11:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEVER QUESTION ANYONE'S VOTE.
12:11:59 BELIEVE ME.
12:11:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:00 WE NOW GO TO THE LAST ITEM OF THE AGENDA.
12:12:06 ITEM NUMBER 23.
12:12:10 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
12:12:11 ALEX, YOU'RE DONE.
12:12:13 LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS REZ 20-54, REZONING REQUEST
12:12:20 FOR A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY FOR REZONING FROM RS-50
12:12:24 TO PD.
12:12:25 I DEFER TO JENNIFER MALONE.
12:12:28 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE --
12:12:35 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
12:12:37 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
12:12:40 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
12:12:42 >> I DO.
12:12:42 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
12:12:43 THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS
12:12:46 ON THIS ITEM.
12:12:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:12:47 PLEASE BEGIN, JENNIFER MALONE.
12:12:51 >>JENNIFER MALONE: OKAY.
12:12:52 CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
12:12:54 THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING
12:12:58 PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY WITHIN THE -- ROUTE 15 SERVES
12:13:03 THE SITE.
12:13:04 EVACUATION ZONE E.
12:13:07 EAST OF INTERSTATE 4, SOUTH OF 20th.
12:13:11 IT'S A VERY LARGE PARCEL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
12:13:14 NEIGHBORHOOD AT APPROXIMATELY 2.28 ACRES.
12:13:17 THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS -- DETACHED WHICH IS
12:13:23 REFLECTED BY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
12:13:25 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
12:13:27 RESIDENTIAL 10.
12:13:28 THAT IS TYPICALLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED [AUDIO BREAKS
12:13:30 UP] CHURCHES AND DAY CARES, ET CETERA, CAN BE CONSIDERED
12:13:35 WITH THIS LAND USE CATEGORY.
12:13:36 TO THE SOUTH IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 AND THE PINK COLOR
12:13:39 WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES.
12:13:42 WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:13:44 THIS CHURCH HAS BEEN A PART OF THE ESTABLISHED
12:13:46 NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE ABOUT 1945.
12:13:49 WE FOUND THAT AN EXPANSION WOULD ACTUALLY BE BENEFICIAL
12:13:54 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUING TO STRENGTHEN THE SENSE OF
12:13:56 PLACE.
12:13:56 ADDITIONALLY, THE RESIDENTIAL 10 HAS A VERY LOW F.A.R.
12:14:01 LIMIT, .5.
12:14:03 THE APPLICANT IS NOT EVEN COMING CLOSE TO REACHING THAT
12:14:08 DENSITY.
12:14:09 THE PROPOSAL IS WELL BELOW THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE
12:14:12 THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED IN THIS CATEGORY.
12:14:16 SUCH A LARGE SITE.
12:14:17 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:14:18 THANK YOU.
12:14:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:14:19 MARY?
12:14:20 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
12:14:22 CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
12:14:23 THANK YOU.
12:14:24 CAN YOU SEE IT?
12:14:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
12:14:27 GO AHEAD.
12:14:27 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
12:14:29 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND THE
12:14:34 APPLICATION INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
12:14:35 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
12:14:37 PLEASE REFERENCE THE DEVELOPMENT -- TRANSPORTATION
12:14:40 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW RELATED TO PARKING LOT ACCESS AND
12:14:43 PARKING PAVEMENT WAIVER AS WELL AS NATURAL RESOURCES
12:14:46 REGARDING WAIVER REDUCTIONS.
12:14:48 THE APPLICANT, AS JENNIFER STATED, HAS AN EXISTING CHURCH
12:14:53 USE ON THE PROPERTY.
12:14:54 THE PROPERTY IS 2.28 ACRES.
12:14:57 THE EXISTING CHURCH USE OCCUPIES 2,478 -- FIFTY SEVEN
12:15:04 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AND WAS BUILT IN 1945.
12:15:07 THEREFORE, IT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING
12:15:11 DISTRICT AS A SPECIAL USE NOT CONSIDERED NONCONFORMING.
12:15:15 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RETAIN THE EXISTING
12:15:18 BUILDING AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 6,840-SQUARE-FOOT
12:15:24 ONE-STORY STRUCTURE.
12:15:25 SO THE OVERALL SITE WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF 449
12:15:30 SEATS.
12:15:31 GO TO THE SITE PLAN.
12:15:36 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE 40 FEET FROM THE NORTH, 40 FEET
12:15:40 FROM THE SOUTH, 40 FEET FROM THE EAST AND 40 FEET FROM
12:15:43 THE WEST.
12:15:44 THE MAXIMUM OVERALL HEIGHT IS 35 FEET.
12:15:47 HERE'S THE EXISTING PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
12:15:50 THE PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY PROPERTY ENCOMPASSES IN
12:15:57 EFFECT THIS ENTIRE BLOCK.
12:15:59 IT'S BOUND ON ALL SIDES BY LOCAL STREETS RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
12:16:04 A TOTAL OF 135 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED BASED, AGAIN,
12:16:09 ON THE SEATING CAPACITY OF 449.
12:16:12 THEY ARE ASKING FOR A PARKING LOT WAIVER REDUCTION FROM
12:16:18 135 SPACES TO 105, WHICH IS A 25% REDUCTION.
12:16:23 ALSO, AS I JUST STATED, ALL OF THE ROADS THAT THEY HAVE
12:16:28 ACCESS TO ARE ALL LOCAL ROADS AND ONE OF THE SPECIAL USE
12:16:30 CRITERIA THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE GAUGED AGAINST THIS
12:16:33 APPLICATION IS THAT PLACES OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY ARE
12:16:38 SUPPOSED TO ACCESS DIRECTLY TO ARTERIAL COLLECTORS.
12:16:42 UNFORTUNATELY, THEY -- ALL -- PROPERTIES ARE ALL LOCAL
12:16:47 ROADS, SO THAT IS THE SECOND TRANSPORTATION RELATED
12:16:51 WAIVER THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
12:16:53 THE THIRD WAIVER THAT IS REQUIRED IS WHENEVER A PARKING
12:16:57 LOT OR A VEHICLE USE AREA ABUTS A RIGHT-OF-WAY, THERE IS
12:17:00 AN EIGHT-FOOT REQUIRED BUFFER.
12:17:03 IN CERTAIN -- I APOLOGIZE.
12:17:06 IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS, THE BUFFER IS REDUCED BECAUSE OF
12:17:13 THE REQUIRED INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS.
12:17:15 AND THE PARKING LOT ENCROACHES SLIGHTLY INTO THOSE
12:17:21 VEHICLE USE AREA BUFFERS.
12:17:23 SO, AGAIN, THAT IS THE THIRD WAIVER -- I'M SORRY, THE
12:17:28 FIRST NATURAL RESOURCES RELATED WAIVER.
12:17:31 INSTEAD OF HAVING 8-FOOT AREA BUFFER ALONG THE
12:17:34 RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE NORTH, IN SOME PLACES IT'S REDUCED
12:17:37 DOWN TO TWO FEET.
12:17:38 AND TO THE EAST REDUCED DOWN TO FIVE FEET.
12:17:42 SAYING THAT AGAIN OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
12:17:45 COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND IT CONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE
12:17:48 WAIVERS REQUESTED.
12:17:49 LOCAL STREET ACCESS, 25% PARKING REDUCTION -- I'M SORRY.
12:17:55 I FORGOT TO MENTION, SOME OF THE PROPOSED LOTS -- SOME OF
12:18:00 THE PROPOSED PARKING IS PROPOSED TO BE GRASS PARKING,
12:18:05 WHICH IS CUSTOMARY FOR PLACES OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, BUT
12:18:08 THAT IS A WAIVER REQUEST.
12:18:10 AND THEN ALSO, FINALLY, THE REDUCTION OF THE USE BUFFER
12:18:13 ALONG THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY TO THE NORTH DOWN TO TWO FEET
12:18:16 FROM 8 AND ON THE EAST FROM 8 FEET TO 5.
12:18:20 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:18:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:18:24 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
12:18:25 ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE.
12:18:30 PETITIONER, I SEE YOU'RE ON, FRANK.
12:18:33 >> YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY GOOD EVENING, BUT GOOD
12:18:37 MORNING TO EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE
12:18:41 TONIGHT.
12:18:42 I'M FRANK KENDRICK.
12:18:44 I'M WITH NEW JACK COMPANIES AND WE ARE THE CONSTRUCTION
12:18:46 MANAGER FOR THIS PROPERTY.
12:18:48 THE OWNER IS PRESENT TONIGHT.
12:18:53 ALSO, THE PASTOR, PASTOR CHARLES LOUISSAINT, AND HE IS
12:18:59 THERE AS WELL AS SHADAILEY LOUISSAINT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF
12:19:06 OF THE CHURCH.
12:19:06 THE CHURCH IS PRESENTLY OCCUPYING A BUILDING,
12:19:10 SINGLE-STORY BUILDING.
12:19:12 HAD BEEN IN THIS BUILDING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, ALMOST A
12:19:15 DECADE, AND THEY'VE DONE -- THEY HAVE BASICALLY OUTGROWN
12:19:18 THIS FACILITY, BUT THEY HAVE LOTS OF LAND, AS WAS
12:19:23 PRESENTED EARLIER SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD NEW
12:19:26 SANCTUARY DIRECTLY BEHIND THE EXISTING FACILITY,
12:19:30 6,000-SQUARE-FOOT SANCTUARY THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE ABOUT
12:19:33 400 OCCUPANTS, LITTLE OVER 400 OCCUPANTS.
12:19:38 I KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAIVERS THAT THEY ARE ASKING
12:19:40 FOR, BUT THIS IS TRULY A COMMUNITY CHURCH.
12:19:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:19:44 ANY QUESTIONS?
12:19:45 NO.
12:19:47 WE'LL GO TO THE PASTOR, SIR?
12:19:51 >>THE CLERK: NEED TO SWEAR THEM IN.
12:19:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:19:53 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
12:19:55 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
12:19:59 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
12:20:03 >> YES.
12:20:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE SURE THAT.
12:20:05 OKAY.
12:20:06 GO AHEAD.
12:20:09 >> YES, WE DO.
12:20:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
12:20:11 IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD.
12:20:13 >> YES, WE DO.
12:20:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.
12:20:19 >> INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
12:20:20 TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHURCH.
12:20:22 >> OKAY.
12:20:23 GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
12:20:27 MY NAME IS PASTOR CHARLES LOUISSAINT, THE SENIOR PASTOR
12:20:32 OF THE CHURCH.
12:20:37 HAITIAN CHURCH.
12:20:40 AS YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE BOUGHT THIS LAND
12:20:53 WITH A SMALL BUILDING IN ORDER TO BUILD A NEW SANCTUARY
12:21:04 FOR THE PEOPLE.
12:21:05 AS YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IS 75 YEARS OLD.
12:21:17 IT IS A VERY OLD BUILDING.
12:21:19 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN ORDER TO PUT OUR MEMBERS.
12:21:28 WHEN THE BUSINESS OWNER BUILD THIS SITE, IT WAS BUILT FOR
12:21:41 50 PEOPLE.
12:21:42 NOW WE ARE 250 MEMBERS.
12:21:51 THE SUGGESTION THAT WE FACE IN ORDER TO PUT ALL THE
12:22:00 MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH INSIDE IN THIS LOCATION.
12:22:04 THAT IS WHY TONIGHT WE COME BEFORE YOU IN ORDER TO HAVE
12:22:14 FROM YOU -- IN ORDER TO BUILD A BIGGER CHURCH, A
12:22:33 CONSTABLE CHURCH, BECAUSE WE ARE A LOT OF UNIVERSITY
12:22:37 STUDENTS, YOUTH AND KIDS.
12:22:40 NEED SOME CLASSROOMS IN ORDER TO DO BIBLE STUDY FOR THEM,
12:22:52 IN ORDER --
12:23:06 MANY YOUTH ARE STUDENTS IN SOME OF YOUR CITIES, LIKE USF
12:23:13 -- IN SOME OF YOUR UNIVERSITIES, LIKE USF, FOR EXAMPLE.
12:23:16 SO WE NEED A BIGGER CHURCH IN ORDER TO -- WE NEED YOUR
12:23:32 CONSENT.
12:23:33 THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT IN ORDER TO DISCUSS WITH
12:23:39 YOU, TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE SITUATION WHAT WE FACE.
12:23:43 THANK YOU ALL.
12:23:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:47 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
12:23:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:23:49 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:23:51 ALL RIGHT.
12:23:53 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT IS REGISTERED TO
12:23:56 SPEAK OR IS AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER?
12:24:01 >> AILEEN ROSARIO FROM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND
12:24:03 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
12:24:05 THANK YOU.
12:24:08 >>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIR.
12:24:10 WE HAVE AT LEAST EIGHT MEMBERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO
12:24:14 SPEAK, AND I WILL MOVE THEM OVER, ONE BY ONE.
12:24:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
12:24:21 I'LL KEEP THE TIME HERE AND WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN.
12:24:29 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
12:24:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MORE COMING.
12:24:54 >>THE CLERK: ALL RIGHT.
12:24:55 EVERYONE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO SPEAK, PLEASE UNMUTE
12:24:56 YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
12:25:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA IF YOU'RE
12:25:09 LOGGED IN.
12:25:12 >>THE CLERK: I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, I HAVE AT LEAST TWO
12:25:14 OTHER MEMBERS, EDDIE LOUIS AND AMAROSE FRANCOIS.
12:25:21 THEY ARE ON DEVICES THAT I CANNOT ELEVATE AS A PANELIST.
12:25:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK
12:25:38 THAT HAS NOT TURNED THEIR CAMERA ON?
12:25:41 I ONLY SEE ONE PERSON.
12:25:43 ALL RIGHT.
12:25:50 IF WE CAN SWEAR IN THE GENTLEMAN, CHARLES LOUISSAINT.
12:25:57 WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON.
12:26:07 >>THE CLERK: IT LOOKS LIKE JEAN ELLIS, JEAN, JUDY,
12:26:15 BAPTISTE, JOSEPH, AS WELL AS ALAZAR KASTEN DOES NOT HAVE
12:26:20 VIDEO CAPABILITIES.
12:26:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE TO HAVE VIDEO IN ORDER TO
12:26:24 SPEAK.
12:26:26 ALL RIGHT.
12:26:27 WE HAVE ANOTHER.
12:26:33 LET'S BEGIN WITH THE THREE THAT WE HAVE.
12:26:37 IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR
12:26:41 YOU IN.
12:26:49 MR. FRANCOIS, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
12:26:54 >> CAN HE HEAR YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:27:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. FRANCOIS WITH THE RED SHIRT, IF
12:27:03 YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE.
12:27:05 OKAY.
12:27:08 GO AHEAD.
12:27:08 >>THE CLERK: CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
12:27:12 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
12:27:15 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
12:27:17 >> YES.
12:27:17 >> YES, I DO.
12:27:20 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
12:27:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:27:21 WE'LL BEGIN WITH CHARLES, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO
12:27:24 SPEAK.
12:27:25 AND I WILL START THE TIMER.
12:27:29 >> HELLO, EVERYONE.
12:27:30 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
12:27:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:27:32 >> MY NAME IS KENNY LOUISSAINT.
12:27:36 I LIVE IN GIBSONTON, FLORIDA.
12:27:40 THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS TIME TO HEAR ME.
12:27:44 I'M A YOUTH MEMBER AT GRACE -- CHURCH.
12:27:47 I SUPPORT THIS CASE.
12:27:48 I JUST WANT TO SHARE A FEW WORDS ON WHY I SUPPORT THIS
12:27:51 CASE.
12:27:52 I'M A UNIVERSITY STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
12:27:53 FLORIDA.
12:27:56 EVERYONE INVITING STUDENTS TO THEIR CHURCHES.
12:28:00 HEY, COME JOIN US THIS SUNDAY, MAN.
12:28:03 BUT I CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I FIND PEACE
12:28:08 FOR THEM.
12:28:08 WE'RE IN THE 21st CENTURY AND TECHNOLOGY IS OFF THE
12:28:11 CHAIN.
12:28:12 THE TIMES ARE CHANGING.
12:28:13 WHAT WORKED BACK THEN WON'T WORK NOW.
12:28:16 A BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT FOR A CHURCH IN 1940s WON'T
12:28:19 DO IN 2020.
12:28:20 EVERYONE IS GROWING.
12:28:21 AND IT'S LIKE WE'RE STUCK IN 1940s.
12:28:26 WE NEED TO GROW.
12:28:27 EVERYONE AROUND US IS GROWING.
12:28:30 WHEN YOU PLANT A SEED, YOU NEED TO MAKE ROOM FOR IT TO
12:28:33 GROW.
12:28:33 WE PLANTED A SEED, NOW IT'S GROWING.
12:28:35 THE BUILDING CAN'T CONTAIN US ANYMORE.
12:28:38 IMAGINE YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE AND FOUR CHILDREN LIVING IN
12:28:41 ONE BEDROOM.
12:28:42 THAT'S HOW WE FEEL.
12:28:44 THE WOMEN'S GROUP CAN'T GROW.
12:28:46 THE MEN'S GROUP CAN'T GROW.
12:28:48 THE YOUTH GROUP CAN'T GROW.
12:28:50 THE KIDS GROUP CAN'T GROW.
12:28:52 WE'RE ALL IN EACH OTHER'S WAY.
12:28:56 THE GREAT YOU STOP GROWING IS THE STAY YOU START DYING.
12:29:00 OUR YOUTH LEAVING THE CHURCH.
12:29:01 WHY?
12:29:03 THEY DON'T HAVE ROOM.
12:29:03 WHEN THE YOUTH LEAVE THE CHURCH, WHO WILL HOLD THE CHURCH
12:29:06 UP TOMORROW.
12:29:07 THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BUILD THIS BIGGER CHURCH.
12:29:09 THANK YOU.
12:29:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:29:12 NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE LINDA ABRAHAM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO
12:29:17 AHEAD.
12:29:18 >> YES, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE COUNCIL.
12:29:22 THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
12:29:24 BASICALLY, MY CONCERN -- THE CHURCH, AS OUR PASTOR SAID,
12:29:42 IT'S AN OLD CHURCH.
12:29:44 THE IDEA OF US BUYING THE LAND, IT IS FOR US TO BUILD A
12:29:56 CHURCH.
12:29:57 WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A CHURCH, NOT JUST BUY THE
12:30:02 BUILDING ON TOP OF THE LAND.
12:30:10 WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE CHURCH WE WANT.
12:30:12 AS OUR PASTOR SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE MORE THAN 300
12:30:16 SOMETHING MEMBERS.
12:30:17 AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANTED TO COME, BUT THERE
12:30:20 WAS NO SPACE.
12:30:25 EVERY TIME WE DO A YOUTH CONFERENCE, PEOPLE STAND
12:30:28 OUTSIDE.
12:30:29 SO ALL OF THE MEMBERS OUTSIDE INVITED COMING IN.
12:30:34 WE CANNOT EVEN ENJOY OUR OWN SERVICES.
12:30:37 SO WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE A VOTE SO WE CAN BUILD THE
12:30:46 CHURCH.
12:30:47 IT'S REALLY SMALL.
12:30:49 I KNOW YOU MAY NOT BE INSIDE, IT ONLY HAS ONE BATHROOM
12:30:53 AND YOU CAN'T DO MUCH.
12:30:54 YOU CAN'T EVEN DO NUMBER TWO.
12:30:57 I'M SORRY FOR SAYING THAT.
12:30:59 YOU CAN'T FLUSH.
12:31:00 IT'S A LOT.
12:31:01 THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN THE SIDE.
12:31:04 WE CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE.
12:31:10 AS I SAID, THE MAIN REASON WE BUY THE LAND, THE BUILDING,
12:31:15 A SMALL ONE.
12:31:16 THERE'S NO WAY WE BOUGHT THE LAND JUST FOR THE BUILDING.
12:31:28 DEFINITELY, WE REALLY WANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BUILD FOR
12:31:36 NOW OUR DREAM CHURCH.
12:31:38 FOR NOW, IF WE COULD HAVE THE 400 OR 500 MEMBER CHURCH, I
12:31:48 THINK THAT WOULD BE A BIG STEP US FOR US.
12:31:50 AND EVEN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
12:31:54 LIKE WHEN YOU COME WITH KIDS, I HAVE A TODDLER, SO WHEN I
12:31:57 COME TO CHURCH, EVEN RUNNING AROUND, JUST WITH
12:32:02 EVERYTHING.
12:32:03 THERE IS NO OTHER BUILDING, NO OTHER ROOM.
12:32:06 YOU CAN'T EVEN TAKE HIM TO.
12:32:09 THERE IS NONE OF THAT.
12:32:11 WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CREATE.
12:32:18 WHEN WE HAVE THE YOUTH, THEY DON'T SPEAK OUR LANGUAGES
12:32:23 AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN TEACHERS OR TEACHING IN
12:32:26 THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND.
12:32:28 IT'S KIND OF HARD.
12:32:30 SOMETIMES THEY GROW UP AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
12:32:33 THIS IS SO, SO SMALL.
12:32:40 WE REALLY WANT YOUR VOTE SO WE CAN GET IT DONE, GET IT
12:32:45 OVER WITH.
12:32:46 YES, IT WOULD BE A BLESSING FOR US.
12:32:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:49 NEXT IS MR. FRANCOIS.
12:32:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, DO WE KNOW IF WE HAVE
12:33:00 ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION?
12:33:04 >>THE CLERK: I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION IN
12:33:06 OPPOSITION.
12:33:07 THEY WERE ALL IN SUPPORT.
12:33:12 >> GOOD MORNING, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
12:33:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
12:33:16 >> MY NAME IS FRANCOIS.
12:33:19 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING.
12:33:21 WE ARE A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH, BUT I -- THE CHURCH HAS
12:33:36 LIKE -- WE ARE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP PASTOR CHARLES
12:33:44 LOUISSAINT.
12:33:46 SO THAT'S WHY WE FEEL -- TONIGHT TO BE PART OF THE
12:33:57 MEETING IN ORDER TO ASK YOU FOR THE FAVOR TO GIVE US THE
12:34:00 OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THAT CHURCH.
12:34:03 YES, I AM ADVOCATING FOR INITIATING THAT WE ARE TAKING TO
12:34:08 BUILD A BIGGER CHURCH IN THAT AREA.
12:34:10 THE LOCAL CHURCH HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS, AS PASTOR AND
12:34:15 OTHER MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY STATED.
12:34:21 AND IT NEVER HAPPENED THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO THAT
12:34:28 CHURCH HAVE DONE, LIKE, SOMETHING WRONG TO THE COMMUNITY,
12:34:33 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:34:35 I THINK IF WE WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THAT
12:34:37 CHURCH IT WILL HELP TO US LIKE INCREASE AND STRENGTHEN
12:34:44 BETWEEN COMMUNITY, BETWEEN PEOPLE LIVING THERE AND IT
12:34:49 WILL BE AS WELL ALSO A MEANS, A WAY TO INCREASE THE LEVEL
12:34:54 OF SECURITY THERE.
12:34:55 BECAUSE, LIKE, WHEREVER THERE IS A CHURCH I CAN TALK FROM
12:35:04 EXPERIENCE, THEY ARE LIKE BUSINESSES.
12:35:09 PEOPLE KNOW SINCE THERE'S A SANCTUARY THERE, THEY ARE
12:35:13 LIKELY TO HAVE SAFETY SO THEY DON'T PUT IN THEIR MIND
12:35:17 THAT SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE AREA.
12:35:19 THE GOAL IN ITSELF IS NOT TO -- OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD THAT
12:35:28 CHURCH AS SISTER LINDA SAID, IN ORDER FOR OUR MEMBERS TO
12:35:37 --
12:35:38 I THINK BUILDING THAT CHURCH IN THAT AREA, THAT WILL
12:35:40 HELP, OKAY, LIKE HOW YOU COULD SAY THAT?
12:35:45 LIKE, THAT WOULD GIVE OTHER OPPORTUNITY.
12:35:47 THAT WOULD BE LIKE A REFERENCE FOR THE AREA, FOR THE
12:35:50 NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE SINCE WE HAVE A CHURCH, PEOPLE
12:35:54 LIKELY TO REFERENCE YOU TO THE CHURCH AND LIKE GIVING YOU
12:36:00 INVITATION, THAT'S WHY THIS MORNING WE ARE HERE TO ASK
12:36:06 YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR THAT FAVOR SO WE CAN HAVE THE
12:36:10 OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD OUR CHURCH.
12:36:16 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY.
12:36:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSOLUTELY.
12:36:19 THANK YOU.
12:36:20 NEXT SPEAKER.
12:36:21 JOHN?
12:36:27 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
12:36:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
12:36:32 >> CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
12:36:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
12:36:36 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:36:39 THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY BY TAKING THE
12:36:50 EXTRA TIME JUST FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR CASE.
12:36:57 MY NAME IS JEAN ELIAS.
12:37:02 I'M ONE OF THE CHURCH MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY I AM ONE OF
12:37:08 THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES.
12:37:11 AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TODAY JUST KNOWING THAT ONE HAVE
12:37:23 US WORKING TO OUR DREAM.
12:37:25 THANK YOU GUYS FOR SPENDING THAT EXTRA TIME JUST FOR
12:37:30 LISTENING TO US, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE KNOW WE'RE KNOCKING
12:37:35 ON THE RIGHT DOOR.
12:37:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:37:39 LET'S SAY THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT IS ONE OF THE MOST
12:37:45 IMPORTANT STEPS THAT WE CAN HAVE BECAUSE --
12:37:58 YEARS PASSING BY FAST AND OUR COMMUNITY IS RISING FAST,
12:38:07 TOO.
12:38:07 HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A CHURCH, A NEW CHURCH
12:38:23 FOR OUR NEW GENERATION, YOU GUYS CAN HEAR THAT FROM
12:38:33 SEVERAL THAT WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR YOUTH,
12:38:37 BECAUSE OUR TODAY CHURCH, WE'RE OKAY BUT WHAT ABOUT THE
12:38:44 NEXT COMING GENERATION.
12:38:46 WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEM, BECAUSE MOST LIKELY
12:38:52 -- THE COOPERATION THEY CAN MAKE ON THE ORDER OF OTHER
12:38:57 CHURCH, OTHER CONGREGATION IS LIKE WE ARE REALLY BEHIND.
12:39:00 SO WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
12:39:03 AND THEN WE KNOW BY TALKING TO YOU TODAY, WE KNOW WE'RE
12:39:10 PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
12:39:14 SO THAT'S OUR CONSENT.
12:39:17 AND WE KNOW WE'RE KNOCKING ON THE RIGHT DOOR.
12:39:20 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
12:39:25 THANK YOU, GUYS.
12:39:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:39:28 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, MADAM CLERK?
12:39:33 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT
12:39:36 PORTION.
12:39:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
12:39:37 I BELIEVE YOU WANTED TO SPEAK, MA'AM.
12:39:40 GO AHEAD.
12:39:41 >> HI.
12:39:41 I JUST WANTED TO -- FIRST, I WANT TO -- FOR HAVING US
12:39:47 TODAY.
12:39:47 MY NAME IS [AUDIO BREAKS UP] [INTERFERING NOISE]
12:40:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S SOMEBODY STILL ON THAT NEEDS
12:40:09 TO MUTE THEMSELVES.
12:40:10 THEY ARE MAKING TOO MUCH NOISE.
12:40:12 ALL RIGHT.
12:40:14 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
12:40:15 I'M SORRY.
12:40:21 >> ALL RIGHT.
12:40:21 BASICALLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ALL OF THE OTHER
12:40:24 CHURCHES AROUND US ARE GROWING AND EXPANDING.
12:40:28 BUT WE ALSO, WE WANT TO GROW AND THRIVE, YOU KNOW, AND
12:40:32 THAT CAN'T BE DONE IN OUR CURRENT BUILDING.
12:40:34 WE CAN BARELY HOLD A CONFERENCE, AS OUR MEMBERS HAVE
12:40:36 SAID.
12:40:37 INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BEFORE COVID-19, EVERY TIME WE
12:40:40 WOULD HAVE A CONFERENCE, OUR MEMBERS WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE,
12:40:43 GIVE UP THEIR SEATS TO GO STAND OUTSIDE.
12:40:45 NOW WITH COVID-19, WE CAN'T GO BACK TO THAT.
12:40:48 WE NEED TO BUILD A BIGGER BUILDING SO WE CAN HAVE THE
12:40:51 AREA TO RESPECT THE GOVERNMENT'S RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS
12:40:54 THE SIX FEET APART AND STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
12:40:57 WHAT MATTERS MOST TO US.
12:40:59 AND TO WORSHIP GOD, BASICALLY.
12:41:02 SO WE HAVE ONE SMALL SANCTUARY WHERE WE ARE FORCED TO DO
12:41:05 EVERYTHING.
12:41:06 I'M THE SUNDAY SCHOOLTEACHER FOR THE KIDS AND THE
12:41:08 SECRETARY FOR OUR YOUTH GROUP.
12:41:10 THE SIZE OF OUR BUILDING IS A PROBLEM.
12:41:12 SUNDAY SCHOOL IS A BIG PART OF A CHILD'S LIFE AS FAR AS
12:41:17 THE CHRISTIAN CHILD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU START TO
12:41:20 INSTILL THE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THEIR MINDS ABOUT, YOU
12:41:23 KNOW, WHO GOD IS AND WHO GOD CREATED THEM TO BE.
12:41:26 SO THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD TEACH THE ADULTS IN THE CHURCH
12:41:28 IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM HOW YOU WOULD TEACH A TWO-YEAR-OLD
12:41:33 OR A THREE-YEAR-OLD.
12:41:34 YOU KIND OF NEED TO BREAK THINGS DOWN FOR THEM.
12:41:37 YOU NEED TO HAVE THE SPACE TO USE VISUALS, LIKE DIFFERENT
12:41:41 OBJECTS TO BACK UP SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SAYING
12:41:43 TO THEM.
12:41:43 YOU NEED A PLAY AREA, MUSIC AREA, YOU NEED A SNACK AREA.
12:41:47 WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.
12:41:49 WE HAVE ONE SANCTUARY, AND THAT'S IT.
12:41:51 WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADJOINING ROOMS.
12:41:53 ANY OF THAT TO DO ANYTHING.
12:41:54 I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE OUR KIDS ARE MISSING A BIG PART OF
12:42:03 THE EXPERIENCE AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN THE CHURCH.
12:42:05 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALL THE KIDS AT OTHER CHURCHES
12:42:09 ARE EXPERIENCING.
12:42:12 THEY DON'T HAVE CLASSROOMS SO WE HAVE TO DO THE SUNDAY
12:42:14 SCHOOL, THEIR SUNDAY SCHOOL ALONG WITH THE YOUNG ADULTS
12:42:17 AND THE ADULTS IN ONE SANCTUARY.
12:42:19 AND IT'S A SMALL SANCTUARY, SO WE CAN'T HAVE THEM ON THIS
12:42:21 SIDE AND HAVE THE ADULTS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
12:42:24 WE ARE ALL TOGETHER AS ONE.
12:42:25 SO SOMETIMES IF THE TEACHER FOR THE ADULT CLASSROOM IS
12:42:28 TEACHING A LESSON, THEY'LL BE HEARING THEM INSTEAD OF
12:42:30 HEARING ME.
12:42:31 I HAVE TO OPEN, LIKE SPEAK REALLY LOUD FOR THEM TO HEAR
12:42:35 ME.
12:42:36 IT IS A LOT OF CHAOS IN ONE SETTING.
12:42:38 BASICALLY, I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO BUILD.
12:42:41 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COMMUNITY OF BELIEVERS,
12:42:45 GROWING IN THIS CHURCH.
12:42:46 WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SO MUCH MORE ALSO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
12:42:49 WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FOOD PANTRY.
12:42:52 OTHER CHURCHES HAVE THAT.
12:42:53 THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHO WE ARE CALLED TO BE AS
12:42:57 CHRISTIANS TO REACH OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO HELP
12:42:58 THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT
12:43:00 BECAUSE OF THE SPACE.
12:43:01 OUR YOUTH GROUP HAS VENTURED OFF TO GO FEED THE HOMELESS.
12:43:05 A LOT OF TIMES, BUT WE ARE FORCED TO USE, YOU KNOW, THE
12:43:07 KITCHENS OF, YOU KNOW, OUR MEMBERS.
12:43:09 AND THAT ENOUGH IS TOO SMALL FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
12:43:14 IF WE DID HAVE MORE SPACE, EVEN LIKE A FELLOWSHIP HALL
12:43:18 FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS HAITIANS, FOOD AND FELLOWSHIPPING IS
12:43:24 ONE AND THE SAME.
12:43:25 YOU HAVE TO -- YOU'LL BE EATING AND FELLOWSHIPPING WITH
12:43:29 YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS LIKE AT THE SAME TIME.
12:43:31 IT IS A BIG PART OF WHO WE ARE IN OUR CULTURE.
12:43:34 SO WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FELLOWSHIP
12:43:37 HALL.
12:43:37 WE HAVE A LITTLE SMALL BUILDING AS OUR SANCTUARY.
12:43:40 WE NEED -- WE NEED -- WE NEED THIS.
12:43:45 THIS CONSTRUCTION, IT MEANS A LOT TO US, AND FOR THE
12:43:49 COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF OUR COMMUNITY AROUND US, IN TERMS
12:43:51 OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL DEFINITELY
12:43:54 BEAUTIFY THE AREA.
12:43:56 THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.
12:43:57 WE HAVE ALREADY FACTORED IN THE PARKING BASED ON THE
12:44:01 CITY'S GUIDELINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE HAVE THE
12:44:03 SHRUBBERY, THE TREES, THE COMMUNITY SIDEWALKS FACTORED IN
12:44:07 IN THE FUTURE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO INCLUDE MAYBE A PLAY
12:44:12 AREA FOR KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY, ALSO FOR OUR CHURCH.
12:44:14 I AM DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION, AND I
12:44:21 DEFINITELY WISH THAT YOU GUYS AND HOPE THAT YOU GUYS ALSO
12:44:24 WOULD SEE THE NEED FOR IT.
12:44:26 SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT TODAY.
12:44:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:44:28 WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:44:34 OR IS THAT IT?
12:44:35 OF.
12:44:37 >>THE CLERK: THAT IS IT.
12:44:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
12:44:40 COUNCIL?
12:44:40 CAN I GET A MOTION?
12:44:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM CONVINCED.
12:45:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:45:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE MOTION.
12:45:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:45:13 ANY OBJECTION?
12:45:15 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, HEARING NO OBJECTION, THIS HEARING
12:45:20 IS NOW CLOSED.
12:45:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS?
12:45:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHY NOT?
12:45:30 FILE REZ 20-54, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
12:45:37 READING CONSIDERATION.
12:45:42 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
12:45:45 5118 EAST 17th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
12:45:48 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
12:45:51 DISTRICT CLASS RS 50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD
12:45:55 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY);
12:45:58 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:45:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:46:01 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
12:46:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:46:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:46:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OUI.
12:46:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SI.
12:46:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:46:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:46:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:46:25 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:46:27 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
12:46:31 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
12:46:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:46:33 HAVE A GOOD MORNING.
12:46:37 ALL RIGHT.
12:46:39 WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS.
12:46:45 >>CATE WELLS: I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE CITY COUNCIL IN
12:46:49 THAT WE ARE OFFICIALLY CAUGHT UP FROM ALL THE
12:46:52 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE ON HOLD OR RESCHEDULED.
12:46:55 SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS.
12:46:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
12:47:01 YOU AND THE WHOLE STAFF.
12:47:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THANKS, EVERYBODY.
12:47:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE PLENTY OF SURPRISES DURING
12:47:06 NEW BUSINESS.
12:47:07 WE'RE NOT DONE YET.
12:47:08 COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
12:47:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, JUST REALLY FAST, IF I MAY.
12:47:17 I MOVE THAT A RESOLUTION BE DRAFTED SO THAT I CAN GIVE
12:47:22 $500 OUT OF MY ACCOUNT TO JINGLE CARTS.
12:47:27 IT'S AN ORGANIZATION FROM FOREST HILLS THAT DOES THIS
12:47:30 CHRISTMAS PARADE THAT I WANT TO HELP THEM OUT ON.
12:47:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, THAT REQUEST IS GOING TO GO
12:47:39 TO REVENUE AND FINANCE, IS THAT CORRECT?
12:47:40 BRING BACK FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
12:47:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, IN TWO WEEKS IS FINE.
12:47:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:47:50 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:47:55 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
12:47:57 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION,
12:47:59 THE MOTION PASSES.
12:48:00 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:48:01 >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
12:48:02 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:48:03 GREAT JOB.
12:48:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU HAVE
12:48:07 ANYTHING?
12:48:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE A MOTION, RESOLUTION TO GIVE $500
12:48:15 FROM MY ACCOUNT TO THE FRIENDS OF TAMPA THE RECREATION
12:48:18 DEPARTMENT.
12:48:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:48:21 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:48:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CLERK,
12:48:25 THAT'S A REQUEST FOR REVENUE AND FINANCE TO COME BACK TO
12:48:29 CITY COUNCIL WITH A RESOLUTION FOR ITS APPROVAL TO
12:48:30 EFFECTUATE THAT TRANSFER.
12:48:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT, SIR.
12:48:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
12:48:36 THAT'S COOL.
12:48:37 THANK YOU.
12:48:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:48:38 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:48:39 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:48:41 ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
12:48:42 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, THE MOTION
12:48:47 PASSES.
12:48:47 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL MEMBER?
12:48:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
12:48:50 LAST ONE.
12:48:50 EARLIER WE HAD A --
12:48:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
12:48:54 [NOT SPEAKING ENGLISH]
12:49:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
12:49:26 LET ME GET IT BACK.
12:49:27 PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND MS. POST COME BACK ON THE 22nd
12:49:36 OF OCTOBER IN REFERENCE TO OUR CODES AND DEVELOPMENTS,
12:49:40 DISCUSS ABOUT THE EAST TAMPA PLAN, MASTER PLAN IF THEY
12:49:43 WOULD.
12:49:44 BRIEF DISCUSSION, THAT WAY WHEN WE GET READY TO GO BACK
12:49:49 TO MR. MECHANIK, I'LL KNOW HOW TO PROCEED AND WHAT THE
12:49:52 PLAN IS FOR EAST TAMPA.
12:49:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
12:49:56 VIERA.
12:49:56 ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
12:49:57 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.
12:50:02 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:50:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT, SIR.
12:50:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IN ENGLISH.
12:50:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS NEW
12:50:14 BUSINESS AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING.
12:50:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE
12:50:21 ANYTHING?
12:50:22 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN
12:50:29 [AUDIO BREAKS UP] THE FAMOUS AND BELOVED CHEF IN SOUTH
12:50:30 TAMPA POSTED HIS KIND OF, HIS GOING AWAY MESSAGE THE
12:50:34 OTHER DAY WITH A COOKIE RECIPE ALSO.
12:50:37 HE HAS BEEN PUT IN HOSPICE, AND HIS FRIENDS TALKED TO ME
12:50:42 TODAY, HE IS MAYBE WEEKS OR MONTHS AWAY FROM PASSING
12:50:45 AWAY.
12:50:46 BUT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD CHEER HIM UP AND BE A GREAT
12:50:50 HONOR TO GET A COMMENDATION.
12:50:51 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GIVE A
12:50:54 COMMENDATION TO KIM BAILEY THAT WILL BE DELIVERED BY HIS
12:50:58 FRIEND ROSEMARY HENDERSON.
12:51:01 >> SECOND.
12:51:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WHO DID HE SAY AGAIN, SIR?
12:51:07 >> KIM BAILEY.
12:51:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT YOU SAID KENT.
12:51:10 >> KIM.
12:51:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY.
12:51:10 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:51:13 THE SECOND I BELIEVE WAS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:51:16 ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
12:51:17 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.
12:51:22 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:51:23 >>BILL CARLSON: NO THANK YOU.
12:51:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU HAVE
12:51:28 ANYTHING, SIR?
12:51:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST TO WISH PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER A
12:51:33 HAPPY 96th BIRTHDAY.
12:51:35 NOTHING MORE, MR. CHAIR.
12:51:37 THANK YOU.
12:51:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE
12:51:39 ANYTHING?
12:51:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, I HAVE ABOUT SIX, BUT I'LL
12:51:42 HOLD THEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
12:51:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN BE HERE ALL DAY.
12:51:46 WHY NOT?
12:51:46 WE'RE HERE.
12:51:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I FORGOT, I WANTED TO
12:51:54 HAVE A DISCUSSION ON SOME CHANGES I'M THINKING ABOUT TO
12:51:56 THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.
12:51:58 I'M JOKING.
12:51:59 I'M JUST TEASING.
12:52:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THE
12:52:04 DOCUMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:52:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO WE
12:52:09 HAVE A SECOND?
12:52:09 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:52:10 ANY OBJECTION?
12:52:11 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT ANY
12:52:13 OBJECTION, THE MOTION PASSES.
12:52:15 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:52:16 THANK YOU.
12:52:16 GOOD NIGHT.
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