TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2020
5:01 P.M. SESSION
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05:01:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:01:30 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:01:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
05:01:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:01:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:01:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:01:44 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, HAVE YOU TURNED YOUR CAMERA ON?
05:01:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK I'M THERE.
05:01:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.
05:01:57 THERE YOU ARE.
05:01:58 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
05:02:00 OKAY.
05:02:01 BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THIS AGENDA, WE DO HAVE A WALK-ON
05:02:06 ITEM THAT CAME IN AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND YOU WILL HEAR
05:02:09 ABOUT IT.
05:02:10 IF WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT, PLEASE.
05:02:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I APPRECIATE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE
05:02:15 CAN, BEGIN WITH MY COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.
05:02:18 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:02:27 MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
05:02:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:02:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:02:30 GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY
05:02:32 COUNCIL.
05:02:33 TONIGHT'S MEETING OF THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2020, IS DUE TO
05:02:40 THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC WAS BEING CONDUCTED VIRTUAL AND
05:02:44 THIS VIRTUAL MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL IS BEING HELD IN
05:02:46 ACCORDANCE ABOUT THE DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS OF THE
05:02:49 GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER 20-69 AS AMENDED AND EXTENDED
05:02:53 BY 20-246 AND BY THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS
05:02:59 ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
05:03:01 IT'S BEING CONDUCTED TONIGHT BY VIDEO TELECONFERENCING,
05:03:05 REMOTE PARTICIPATION WHICH IS REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF
05:03:07 FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA
05:03:11 TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
05:03:13 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE
05:03:16 TO WATCH THIS AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV SPECTRUM
05:03:20 CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER 15, AND ON THE INTERNET AT
05:03:24 WWW.TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD, LIVESTREAM.
05:03:33 COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC IS, BECAUSE THIS IS
05:03:37 VIRTUAL, GIVEN ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF BEING ABLE TO
05:03:40 PARTICIPATE IN TONIGHT'S HEARINGS.
05:03:43 OBVIOUSLY, THE APPLICANTS HAVE HAD TO PREREGISTER, AND A
05:03:51 CMT DEVICE IS REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE.
05:03:53 FOR THOSE PEOPLE AT HOME, A SMART PHONE OR CELL PHONE
05:03:56 DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE
05:04:00 IN TONIGHT'S HEARING.
05:04:01 YOU MUST HAVE A CMT DEVICE THAT'S EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA
05:04:05 AND MICROPHONE THAT WORKS THROUGH OUR PLATFORM.
05:04:08 FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE CONDUCT THESE VIRTUAL
05:04:11 HEARINGS AND LINK TO DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE
05:04:14 TO THE PUBLIC AT WWW.TAMPAGOV.NET/QUASI.
05:04:22 AND I BRING THAT TO PUBLIC'S ATTENTION TONIGHT BECAUSE
05:04:25 IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT PERHAPS THERE HAVE
05:04:28 BEEN SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE BEEN LEAVING
05:04:31 PRERECORDED MESSAGES ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT LINES FOR
05:04:35 REGULAR MEETING AGENDAS.
05:04:36 THOSE ARE NOT DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL, THOSE ARE NOT
05:04:40 PLAYED AT THE HEARING, THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THE
05:04:42 TONIGHT'S RECORD OF TONIGHT'S HEARINGS.
05:04:45 BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THE PROCESS OF HAVING THESE
05:04:50 VIRTUAL MEETINGS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS.
05:04:52 SO I JUST WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THE WAY TO
05:04:56 PARTICIPATE IS TO PARTICIPATE THROUGH THE USE OF CMT.
05:05:00 NOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CMT DEVICE, MEMBERS OF THE
05:05:03 PUBLIC, THERE IS PUBLIC ACCESS TO ONE, AND THAT IS
05:05:07 AVAILABLE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER WHICH IS OPEN
05:05:11 TONIGHT FOR THAT PURPOSE, AND THE HEARINGS, IF YOU DON'T
05:05:15 HAVE A CMT DEVICE AND WANT TO PARTICIPATE IT, IS AT 333
05:05:19 SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET AT THE CHANNEL ENTRANCE.
05:05:22 THE WRITTEN MATERIAL THAT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL
05:05:28 EITHER BY E-MAIL OR REGULAR U.S. MAIL, AS I SAY, HAVE
05:05:33 BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL, AND ARE NOW BEING MADE
05:05:36 TONIGHT AS PART OF THE RECORD OF TONIGHT'S HEARINGS.
05:05:40 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I TURN THE MEETING
05:05:42 BARK TO YOU.
05:05:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:05:46 SO WE HAVE A WALK-ON ITEM.
05:05:48 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SPEAKING ON THIS WALK-ON ITEM,
05:05:51 IF WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT.
05:05:54 IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A
05:05:55 COPY OF WHAT IT IS AND I'LL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU NOW.
05:06:00 SO WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, GO AHEAD.
05:06:02 >>ROB ROSNER: DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
05:06:06 AS YOU WILL SEE, I PUT A MEMO ON THE FRONT OF THIS.
05:06:09 THE UPTOWN PROJECT OUT THERE AT THE UNIVERSITY MALL IS IN
05:06:15 NEED OF RELEASE OF A PORTION OF A WATER LINE EASEMENT IN
05:06:19 ORDER TO CLOSE ON A PROPERTY THAT IS GOING TO BE A $60
05:06:24 MILLION STUDENT HOUSING PROJECT THAT'S A KICKOFF PROJECT
05:06:28 TO START THE RENOVATIONS, AND THEY HAVE REHABILITATION OF
05:06:31 THIS AREA, AND THE LENDER HAS TOLD US THAT THIS IS A
05:06:36 CRITICAL ITEM FOR THEM TO HAVE RELEASED IN ORDER TO CLOSE
05:06:40 ON THEIR LENDING, AND IT'S KIND OF FOUND OUT AT THE LAST
05:06:47 MINUTE THIS WAS AN ISSUE. THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL FOR A
05:06:50 LENDER TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
05:06:51 SO WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO NOT HOLD THAT UP, AND THIS IS
05:06:56 A VERY TIME SENSITIVE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE
05:06:58 DONE BY JUNE OF 2022, AND THEY HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION
05:07:03 IN NOVEMBER.
05:07:03 SO WITH THAT, I HAVE MARK SHARPE HERE, AND ELISE BATSEL.
05:07:17 THAT'S A REASON FOR THIS TO BE A WALK-ON BECAUSE OF A
05:07:20 TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE. THIS IS NORMALLY DONE AFTER
05:07:22 CLOSING BUT THIS LENDER IN FACE OF COVID IS BEING MORE
05:07:26 PARTICULAR THAN MOST LENDERS, BUT IT'S VERY TIME
05:07:29 SENSITIVE AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR IT BEING SUCH SHORT
05:07:32 NOTICE.
05:07:34 THANK YOU.
05:07:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:07:40 MR. SHARPE?
05:07:46 MR. SHARPE, YOU ARE NOT BEING HEARD.
05:07:48 YOU ARE FROZEN.
05:07:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAD A QUESTION TO ROB ROSNER.
05:07:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:07:58 WE CAN'T SEE YOU ON YOUR CAMERA, SIR.
05:08:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER TO CITY COUNCIL, WHEN
05:08:03 YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA OFF, IT'S AS IF YOU ARE NOT IN
05:08:06 ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING.
05:08:07 SO JUST BE ADVISED THAT IF YOU ARE INTENDING TO
05:08:10 PARTICIPATE, TO HAVE YOUR VOTE COUNTED, BE SURE TO HAVE
05:08:14 YOUR CAMERA ON.
05:08:15 THANK YOU.
05:08:16 >> GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER, I'M READY FOR ANY QUESTION
05:08:21 YOU MIGHT HAVE.
05:08:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COMMENT, MR. SHELBY.
05:08:25 YES, ROB, I WANT YOU TO SAY IT ON THE RECORD, SO THIS IS
05:08:29 A VACATING OF A WATER EASEMENT?
05:08:36 AND MY QUESTION IS THE OBVIOUS ONE, BUT I WOULD ASSUME
05:08:40 THAT ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE WATER
05:08:45 DEPARTMENT, HAS LOOKED AT THIS AND SIGNED OFF ON IT
05:08:48 BECAUSE I HEARD ABOUT PAPERWORK, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY
05:08:54 VISITED THE PAPERWORK SO I WILL TRUST YOUR COMMENTS.
05:08:56 >>ROB ROSNER: SO THEY RECEIVED THEIR LETTER RECEIVED THE
05:09:06 7th.
05:09:07 THEIR DOCUMENTS ARE ALREADY THERE.
05:09:08 USUALLY CLOSING HAPPENS ONCE THOSE COMMITMENTS ARE DONE,
05:09:11 AND THEY ARE READY TO GO, AND IF THERE'S ANY FOLLOW-UP
05:09:16 DOCUMENTATION IT COMES AFTERWARDS.
05:09:18 SO OTHER DEVELOPERS HAD SIMILAR ISSUES.
05:09:22 WE RECENTLY HAD ONE WHERE A PERMIT HAD NOT BEEN CLOSED
05:09:26 OFF AND IT'S TWO YEARS OLD, AND WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE
05:09:29 THAT.
05:09:30 BUT THEY JUST NEEDED TO KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS?
05:09:33 AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO CLOSE.
05:09:35 AND WE RESOLVED THAT A FEW WEEKS AFTER THE FACT.
05:09:38 BUT THIS DEVELOPER, WE TRIED TO APPROACH THEM AND ASK
05:09:41 THEM FOR A LETTER OF INTENT, TO GET IT DONE NO FEW WEEKS
05:09:47 LIKE WE WOULD NORMALLY DO.
05:09:48 THEY SAID, NO, IT'S TOO TIME SENSITIVE, AND WE ARE NOT
05:09:51 GOING TO DO IT.
05:09:53 SO, YES, EVERYBODY SIGNED OFF ON IT, IT'S A GOOD PRICE
05:09:57 RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THIS PARTICULAR LENDER
05:10:00 IS BEING SO DILIGENT, AND THE CLOSING IS ON OCTOBER
05:10:03 15th.
05:10:05 SO WE ARE SORRY AGAIN FOR BEING SO SHORT NOTICED BUT WE
05:10:11 DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT AT THE LAST MINUTE
05:10:16 WITH THIS PARTICULAR LENDER.
05:10:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:10:18 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:10:19 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR?
05:10:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
05:10:22 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I HAVE TO TALK TO THE PHONE TO SPEAK.
05:10:25 THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY COMPUTER.
05:10:26 BUT MR. ROSNER MENTIONED SOMETHING, AND HE DID SO WITH
05:10:29 GREAT HUMANITY WHICH IS THE CITY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS
05:10:33 CONCURRENTLY WITH THE DEVELOPERS, TONE AND FINDING OUT
05:10:38 ABOUT IT RECENTLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS ON TUESDAY EVENING, I
05:10:41 BELIEVE IT IS.
05:10:42 BUT I WANTED TO THANK MR. ROSNER, MR. BENNETT, CAROLE
05:10:48 POST AND EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THIS SO DILIGENTLY.
05:10:52 THIS IS A VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE
05:10:54 AREA, AND IT REQUIRES REALLY QUICK ACTION BY THE
05:10:57 ADMINISTRATION.
05:10:58 THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR HANDS FULL, AND THEY HAD ABOUT A
05:11:02 30 OR 40% OF THIS WORKFORCE TAKEN OUT AT ONE TIME OR
05:11:05 ANOTHER DURING COVID.
05:11:06 SO WE SPOKE TO CHIEF BENNETT THIS MORNING.
05:11:10 I INTRODUCED THEM AS THE HARDEST WORKING MAN IN SHOW
05:11:13 BUSINESS.
05:11:13 SO I JUST AGAIN WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO JUMPED ON
05:11:16 THIS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, FOR MYSELF, AND I KNOW FROM
05:11:20 EVERYBODY.
05:11:21 IT'S REALLY APPRECIATED.
05:11:23 THAT'S ALL, MR. CHAIR.
05:11:25 THANK YOU, SIR.
05:11:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:11:27 ANYBODY ELSE?
05:11:30 RON?
05:11:30 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
05:11:34 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A POINT ON THE RECORD FOR THIS
05:11:39 WAS NOT A VACATING OF EASEMENT, THIS IS SIMPLY A RELEASE
05:11:43 FROM EASEMENT.
05:11:43 SO VACATING WOULD IMPLY THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC
05:11:47 HEARING, PROVIDE PUBLIC NOTICE, AND GO THROUGH TWO
05:11:50 READINGS, AND WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY ORDINANCE, WHEREAS
05:11:53 THIS IS DONE BY RESOLUTION.
05:11:55 SO IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
05:11:56 >> ROB ROSNER: JUST TO CLARIFY ALSO FOR RON, THIS IS TO
05:12:03 GET THE WATER LINES OUT OF THE WAY.
05:12:04 THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING NEW WATER SERVICE, ALL
05:12:08 THOSE THINGS ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF BEING WORKED
05:12:10 OUT AND DONE.
05:12:13 OBVIOUSLY I TOLD YOU WE WENT THROUGH AND GOT THE
05:12:15 COMMITMENTS, AND THEY ARE IN PERMITTING NOW.
05:12:17 SO AGAIN THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A MATTER OF COURSE NO
05:12:19 NORMAL SITUATION.
05:12:20 SO THIS LENDER HAD MADE THIS A CONTINGENCY OF THEIR
05:12:25 LENDING.
05:12:28 NORMALLY THIS WOULD BE DONE AT CLOSING, AND COME BEFORE
05:12:34 CITY COUNCIL IN A NORMAL BASIS AND A GENERAL CONSENT
05:12:37 ITEM.
05:12:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:12:39 ANYTHING ELSE?
05:12:42 I SEE COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
05:12:43 I SEE ELISE BATSEL.
05:12:47 WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS?
05:12:49 NO?
05:12:50 >> BATSEL: THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR BEING SO HELPFUL IN
05:12:57 WORKING SO QUICKLY.
05:12:58 THANK YOU, SIR.
05:12:58 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, MAYBE MY SOUND IS WORKING NOW.
05:13:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
05:13:06 >> I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR. ROSNER AND THE ENTIRE CITY
05:13:10 OF TAMPA.
05:13:11 WHEN WE SIGNED THE MOU WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
05:13:16 SEPTEMBER WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY ALONG WITH THE ANCHORS
05:13:19 INSTITUTIONS IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA, LOOKED FOR THIS
05:13:21 PURPOSE.
05:13:22 WE KNEW THERE WOULD BE MOMENTS WHEN THERE WOULD BE THESE
05:13:25 ISSUES THAT MIGHT ARISE, BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEX NATURE OF
05:13:28 THE CITY, COUNTY, STATE OF FLORIDA, ALL WITHIN THAT
05:13:31 UNIVERSITY AREA, JURISDICTIONAL LINES, AND SO WE JUST
05:13:35 WANT TO THANK ROB, HELD WHEN WE HAD THESE STRATEGIC
05:13:43 PLANNING SESSIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND
05:13:46 THIS PROJECT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO DEVELOP THE
05:13:52 PROJECT AS WELL AS TRIGGER A NUMBER OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT
05:13:54 PROJECTS, BUT CONCURRENTLY WITH THAT, WE ARE MAKING SURE
05:13:56 THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE WORKING
05:13:59 WITH THE UNIVERSITY AREA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
05:14:00 CORPORATION ON A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT, ANOTHER
05:14:06 ELEMENT TO MAKE SURE AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, THE
05:14:08 COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS WELL.
05:14:09 AND THANK YOU, SIR.
05:14:10 AND THANK ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
05:14:12 .
05:14:16 >>> ANYBODY ELSE?
05:14:17 MR. SHELBY, DO WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE
05:14:21 PARTIAL RELEASE OF WATER EASEMENT?
05:14:23 HOW DO WE APPROVE THIS?
05:14:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE MR. MASSEY PROVIDED YOU WITH
05:14:28 A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
05:14:30 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. WIGGINTON?
05:14:33 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
05:14:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALL RIGHT.
05:14:37 MY SUGGESTION, COUNCIL, WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE
05:14:41 AFTER MOVING THE RESOLUTION BY MOTION AND RAL CALL VOTE.
05:14:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
05:14:46 SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION?
05:14:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
05:14:49 >> SECOND.
05:14:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY MIRANDA.
05:14:51 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:14:53 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:14:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:15:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: (NO RESPONSE)
05:15:05 YES, CITRO.
05:15:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:15:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:15:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:15:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:15:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:15:22 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:15:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKEY-DOKEY.
05:15:25 THAT SETTLES THAT.
05:15:27 THANK YOU.
05:15:32 ALL RIGHT.
05:15:33 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS 1 THROUGH
05:15:39 11?
05:15:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:15:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:15:43 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:15:45 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
05:15:46 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT AND WITHOUT ANY
05:15:48 OBJECTION, WE HAVE OPENED ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, 1
05:15:52 THROUGH 11.
05:15:53 WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 1 REGARDING THE IMAGINE
05:15:57 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:16:10 WHO IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 1?
05:16:17 >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:16:22 DO I SHARE MY SCREEN?
05:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO AND THEN I WILL
05:16:26 LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE SEE IT.
05:16:28 GO AHEAD.
05:16:30 YES, WE CAN SEE IT.
05:16:35 GO AHEAD.
05:16:35 >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:16:39 THIS ITEM IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE OF
05:16:42 SCHEDULED PROJECT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:16:44 THIS REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 163 OF FLORIDA STATUTES.
05:16:52 CHAPTER 163 REQUIRES THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR
05:17:01 THE LEVEL OF SERVICE UPDATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
05:17:04 THE UPDATE WOULD BE ON THE SCHEDULED PROJECT FOUND IN THE
05:17:07 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE SCHEDULE LISTED IN YOUR
05:17:09 PACKET.
05:17:11 CITY STAFF IDENTIFIED PROJECTS WITHIN THE CAPITAL
05:17:14 IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM THAT AFFECTS -- AND IT'S THESE ITEMS
05:17:18 THAT MAKE UP THE SCHEDULED PROJECTS WHICH ARE THEN
05:17:20 REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:17:22 THE UPDATED ACCOMPLISHED WHICH IS COMMITTED UNDER CHAPTER
05:17:25 163 AND DOES NOTE FOLLOW THE TYPICAL PLAN AMENDMENT
05:17:29 PROCESS.
05:17:31 OTHER AGENCIES ARE ADOPTED BY REFERENCE TO AN EXISTING
05:17:35 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT POLICY.
05:17:42 AS DEPICTED ON THIS SLIDE THERE ARE FOUR PROGRAM AREAS
05:17:46 CLUED IN THE SCHEDULE: TRANSPORTATION, WATER, STORMWATER
05:17:50 AND WASTEWATER WHICH IS COMPROMISED OF 60 PROJECTS.
05:17:55 THE TOTAL -- IS 1.26 BILLION DOLLARS.
05:18:04 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF MADE A SCHEDULE WITH RESPECT TO
05:18:09 POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:18:10 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT POLICY 1 .3.2 DICTATES THAT FUNDED
05:18:16 ALL THE PROJECTS.
05:18:18 SECOND, REPLACE NEEDED FACILITY, OR THIRD, TO PROVIDE FOR
05:18:22 FUTURE GROWTH WHICH CONSISTS -- EXCUSE ME -- CONSISTENT
05:18:26 WITH THE CITY'S SCHEDULE, 95% TO ELIMINATE OR REPLACE.
05:18:38 AT THE REGULAR MEETING THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE
05:18:40 PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULED PROJECT FY
05:18:48 CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE
05:18:50 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:18:53 I RECOMMEND ADOPTION BY CITY COUNCIL.
05:18:57 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:19:00 MYSELF AND CITY STAFF ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONING.
05:19:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:19:05 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
05:19:06 HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT.
05:19:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:19:13 DO WE HAVE THE CITY SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM, TOO, OR NO?
05:19:18 OKAY.
05:19:19 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
05:19:21 ON THIS ITEM?
05:19:22 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NEAR HAVE
05:19:31 WE RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS.
05:19:33 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:19:34 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
05:19:36 THANK YOU.
05:19:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:19:39 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
05:19:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:19:44 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:19:45 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
05:19:46 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION
05:19:49 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
05:19:53 WE ARE GOING TO DO ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:19:57 WHOEVER IS GOING TO CLOSE THE ORDINANCE, I WILL ASK, BUT
05:20:00 WHEN WE TAKE ROLL CALL VOTE, I ASKED THE CLERK TO MIX IT
05:20:03 UP BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS IN THE SAME ORDER.
05:20:05 AS A RESULT WE WILL JUST RANDOMLY CHOOSE A DIFFERENT
05:20:08 ORDER OF PEOPLE.
05:20:09 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM NUMBER
05:20:12 1?
05:20:12 >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
05:20:17 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE
05:20:22 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAPITAL
05:20:24 IMPROVEMENTS SECTION BY REPLACING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
05:20:27 SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
05:20:29 SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 THROUGH FISCAL
05:20:33 YEAR 2025 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
05:20:36 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
05:20:38 EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:20:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:20:44 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:20:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:20:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:20:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:20:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:20:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:20:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:20:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:21:01 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:21:03 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
05:21:06 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
05:21:08 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, SIR.
05:21:12 AT THE BEGINNING, I KNOW FROM WAS A CONTINUANCE, I
05:21:15 BELIEVE, REQUESTED ON NUMBER 3, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
05:21:20 ARE WE GOING TO TAKE IT UP AT THE BEGINNING THE
05:21:22 CONTINUANCES AND CLEANING UP THE AGENDA?
05:21:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.
05:21:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:21:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
05:21:29 SO WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 3,
05:21:33 AND THEN 4 AND 5 CANNOT BE HEARD TONIGHT.
05:21:35 SO NUMBER 4 AND 5.
05:21:39 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE AGENDA?
05:21:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED 4 AND 5.
05:21:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:21:51 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:21:52 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:21:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:21:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:21:59 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:22:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:22:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:22:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:22:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:22:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:22:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THEN FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, THERE
05:22:11 WAS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
05:22:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE PETITIONER MIGHT BE HERE.
05:22:21 IS THAT TRUE?
05:22:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS MR. MECHANIK ON THE LINE?
05:22:24 IF YOU ARE, TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
05:22:27 AND YOUR MICROPHONE.
05:22:32 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I AM HERE.
05:22:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
05:22:37 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
05:22:41 I'M HERE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 10th IF
05:22:46 POSSIBLE.
05:22:46 I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE GOT OLD CALENDARS, BUT IF YOU
05:22:52 RECALL, THIS WAS CONTINUED BEFORE BECAUSE OF A QUESTION
05:22:56 OF THE HISTORIC STATUS OF THE FORMERLY THE JAMES TOKLEY
05:23:02 HOUSE, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE A DEFINITIVE REPORT FROM
05:23:06 THE STAFF, SO I AM ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE SO THAT I CAN
05:23:12 APPEAR FORMALLY BEFORE THE HPC AND GET THAT DETERMINATION
05:23:18 BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE ZONING OF THIS MATTER.
05:23:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
05:23:29 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
05:23:31 THE CONTINUANCE ONLY, NOT THE MERITS OF THE CASE BUT THE
05:23:35 CONTINUANCE ONLY FOR ITEM NUMBER 3?
05:23:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A QUESTION TO THE
05:23:42 CLERK.
05:23:47 DO WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO
05:23:50 THIS ITEM?
05:23:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN ASK.
05:23:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT?
05:23:58 >>THE CLERK: YES.
05:23:59 I HAVE APPROXIMATELY FIVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THIS
05:24:01 PARTICULAR ITEM THIS EVENING.
05:24:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, COUNCIL, IN A
05:24:09 VIRTUAL ENVIRONMENT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THOSE PEOPLE
05:24:13 TO BE BROUGHT UP FRONT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK, TO BE ABLE TO
05:24:21 TALK JUST TO THE CONTINUANCE, AND NOT HEAR ANYTHING
05:24:25 SUBSTANTIVE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TONIGHT
05:24:27 GIVEN THAT THE PETITIONER HASN'T MADE HIS CASE.
05:24:29 SO COUNCIL, FRANKLY, IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION.
05:24:34 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT, BUT FRANKLY,
05:24:38 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW IS ANYBODY OUT THERE IN THE
05:24:43 PUBLIC IN THE NOTICED AREA AND RECEIVED NOTICE AND WANTS
05:24:45 TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO COUNCIL.
05:24:50 I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO DO THIS.
05:24:52 PREVIOUSLY, COUNCIL HAS CONTINUED IT WITHOUT TAKING
05:24:58 PUBLIC COMMENT AS TO THE CONTINUANCE, BECAUSE IT'S AN
05:25:02 ENVIRONMENT THAT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
05:25:04 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
05:25:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, MR. SHELBY, WE WOULDN'T BE
05:25:08 TECHNICALLY DENYING ANYBODY THEIR RIGHT TO SPEAK BECAUSE
05:25:12 IF THE CONTINUANCE IS GRANTED, ANYONE WOULD HAVE THE
05:25:15 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UNDERSTOOD THE FULL EVIDENTIARY
05:25:19 HEARING ON DECEMBER 10th SHOULD WE GRANT THAT.
05:25:22 AT THE END OF THE DAY PEOPLE CAN SPEAK.
05:25:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:25:28 POINT WELL TAKEN.
05:25:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
05:25:31 SO UNLESS ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY OBJECTION, BECAUSE
05:25:35 THIS IS THE CONTINUANCE GRANTED TO DECEMBER 10th,
05:25:39 ANYONE WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK OR HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
05:25:42 TO SPEAK -- NOT BE ALLOWED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK --
05:25:45 AND WE WILL HEAR THE ENTIRE CASE FROM SCRATCH.
05:25:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND TO ADD TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT
05:25:54 WILL BE IN-PERSON MEETING OR A HYBRID DEPENDING IN
05:26:02 DECEMBER.
05:26:02 I CAN'T SAY.
05:26:03 BUT THE THING IS DEFINITELY IT WILL NOT BE SOLELY VIRTUAL
05:26:06 IN DECEMBER.
05:26:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
05:26:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
05:26:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AM I ON VIDEO?
05:26:15 THERE WE GO.
05:26:17 SO I KNOW OUR RULES SPEAK TO X NUMBER OF CONTINUANCE
05:26:22 REQUESTS.
05:26:24 MR. MECHANIK, YOU HAD MENTIONED, I GUESS, WE'LL HAVE HAD
05:26:30 ONE PRIOR REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AND THIS IS A SECOND?
05:26:37 >>DAVID MECHANIK: HOWEVER, I DID SPEAK WITH MS. O'DOWD
05:26:41 AND AS IT RELATES TO TWO CONTINUANCES DOES NOT APPLY TO
05:26:47 THIS SITUATION, BUT THE CODE SECTION DEALS WITH FAILURE
05:26:51 TO PERFECT NOTICE OR FAILURE TO FILE A PROPER SITE PLAN
05:26:57 NEITHER OF WHICH ARE APPLICABLE HERE.
05:27:00 WE SIMPLY HAVE ASKED FOR A DETERMINATION OF THE HISTORIC
05:27:04 STATUS OF THE HOUSE.
05:27:07 WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE STAFF REPORT.
05:27:11 AND SO IN LIGHT OF THE LACK OF A FINAL DETERMINATION, I
05:27:15 HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO REQUEST THE ABILITY TO APPEAR IN
05:27:20 FRONT OF THE HPC.
05:27:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
05:27:26 JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE WERE ABIDING BY OUR
05:27:29 OWN RULES.
05:27:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:27:32 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
05:27:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:27:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO REALLY, TO SPEAK JUST ON THE
05:27:44 CONTINUANCE BUT NOT THE FACT THERE'S NO CASE, CORRECT?
05:27:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, NO, SIR, NOT IN A VIRTUAL
05:27:51 SETTING, BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE PEOPLE, WE DON'T KNOW
05:27:54 WHETHER THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO A CONTINUANCE OR NOT.
05:27:56 WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING.
05:27:59 PHYSICALLY OR ELECTRONICALLY HAVE TO BE MOVED FORWARD TO
05:28:02 PARTICIPATE.
05:28:02 AND THEN THEY HAVE TO ALL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL
05:28:04 INDIVIDUALLY TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO STATE.
05:28:10 FRANKLY, I THINK CHARACTERIZED ESPECIALLY WITH THE
05:28:16 URGENCY RULES WE ARE OPERATING UNDER, THEY ARE CERTAINLY
05:28:21 NOT PREJUDICED TO THE DEGREE THAT THE CHAIR ARTICULATED
05:28:25 VERY WELL, I THINK.
05:28:31 AND THIS MAY COME UP AGAIN IN THE COURSE OF THESE VIRTUAL
05:28:35 HEARINGS.
05:28:36 I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE CLERK ABOUT THE MECHANICS
05:28:39 INVOLVED AND HAVING TO DO THAT IS QUITE INVOLVED TO BE
05:28:41 ABLE TO DO THAT.
05:28:42 SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THEM TO MAKE NOTE,
05:28:46 BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL NOTICE TO
05:28:48 MAKE NOTE OF THE FACT IF IT IS CONTINUED AND THEY DO
05:28:51 INTEND TO PARTICIPATE, DECEMBER 10th AT 6:00 WOULD BE
05:28:54 THE DATE AND THE TIME OF 2020.
05:28:58 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
05:29:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE AND A
05:29:10 MOTION TO CONTINUE.
05:29:10 >> SO MOVED.
05:29:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE,
05:29:16 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
05:29:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE NUMBER 3,
05:29:22 TO DECEMBER 10th AT 6:30 P.M., AND MAKE IT NUMBER
05:29:27 ONE.
05:29:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT 6 P.M., PLEASE.
05:29:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 6 P.M.
05:29:32 I SAID THAT.
05:29:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:29:35 CAN I GET A ROLL CALL VOTE?
05:29:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:29:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:29:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:29:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:29:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:29:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:29:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:29:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:29:56 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
05:29:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVING THAT SEQUENCE
05:30:04 AROUND KEEPS EVERYBODY ON THEIR TOES.
05:30:07 YOU NEVER KNOW.
05:30:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MIGHT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, THAT
05:30:10 WHEN THERE'S A ROLL CALL VOTE, YOU KNOW THEN YOU SHOULD
05:30:16 TURN OFF YOUR MUTE BECAUSE YOU MAY THE NEXT ONE CALLED
05:30:19 FOR THE ROLL SO THAT MIGHT TAKE SOME TIME.
05:30:25 I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TONIGHT.
05:30:28 A REMINDER THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE, COME NOVEMBER 5th
05:30:33 MEETING, BE BACK IN THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, BUT ALSO
05:30:36 TONIGHT'S HEARINGS THAT WILL GO FORWARD TO SECOND
05:30:40 READING, WORKING WITH THE CLERK, A DATE FOR SECOND READS,
05:30:48 THE MORNING OF NOVEMBER 5th WHICH IS YOUR FIRST
05:30:51 MEETING BACK AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
05:30:54 AND LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE WE HAD 15 SO FAR SECOND READS
05:31:01 SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 5th TO COME BACK IN THE
05:31:04 MORNING.
05:31:06 AND THE REASON I BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION IS I
05:31:08 BELIEVE ANOTHER 7 TO BE ADDED TONIGHT SO I WANT TO BRING
05:31:14 IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, UNLESS THE 7 ARE SCHEDULED TO
05:31:16 ANOTHER NIGHT, YOU WILL HAVE 22 SECOND READS ON NOVEMBER
05:31:21 5th IN THE MORNING.
05:31:23 AS YOU KNOW, THEY COULD GO VERY QUICKLY BUT I JUST WANT
05:31:27 TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION SO YOU ARE NOT SURPRISED
05:31:29 WHEN YOU SEE IT.
05:31:30 SO THANK YOU.
05:31:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:31:33 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
05:31:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S IT.
05:31:36 THANK YOU.
05:31:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:31:37 WE'LL CONTINUE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
05:31:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ARE YOU RAISING YOUR HAND?
05:31:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, WASN'T IT CONTINUED?
05:31:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 2?
05:31:54 THERE'S NO CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 2, NO.
05:31:57 3 CONTINUANCE AND THEN 4 AND 5 CANNOT BE HEARD.
05:32:00 THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
05:32:04 ALL RIGHT.
05:32:04 MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:32:06 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
05:32:16 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
05:32:19 THE CLERK'S DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENT ON THIS
05:32:25 ITEM.
05:32:26 >> IF YOU CAN -- DON'T WE GENERALLY SWEAR EVERYBODY IN?
05:32:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:32:37
05:32:59 OKAY, THERE THEY ARE.
05:33:01 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
05:33:03 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
05:33:05 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
05:33:08 >> I DO.
05:33:12 >> HE JUST FLASHED OFF THE SCREEN.
05:33:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:33:14 >> THERE HE IS.
05:33:16 >> AND I DID SAY "I DO."
05:33:20 >> KIM CORBETT, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, HILL, WARD,
05:33:26 HENDERSON, AND IT'S BEEN MY ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE TO BE
05:33:29 INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE
05:33:32 WESTSHORE MALL.
05:33:39 OH, HE GOES FIRST.
05:33:42 SORRY.
05:33:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZ 20-23.
05:33:46 THE APPLICANT IS PROPERTY AT 250, 298, 347 WESTSHORE
05:33:51 PLAZA, 49010th 1, 4915 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, 525
05:33:56 NORTH OCCIDENT STREET, 48 NORTH B STREET, 100, 204, 253
05:34:03 AND 440 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD FROM PD PLANNED DEFEND
05:34:07 DEVELOPMENT TO PD.
05:34:08 I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR
05:34:10 REPORT AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME AFTERWARDS.
05:34:12 THANK YOU.
05:34:13 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:34:18 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
05:34:20 WE START TONIGHT OFF IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:34:24 ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE WESTSHORE EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
05:34:27 THAT'S THE HATCHED AREA.
05:34:31 THE SUBJECT SITE IS HOME TO HEART'S WESTSHORE PLAZA
05:34:35 TRANSFER CENTER, NUMEROUS TRANSIT ROUTES DO CONNECT TO
05:34:38 THIS SUBJECT SITE.
05:34:39 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL A EVACUATION
05:34:42 ZONE.
05:34:45 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS CHARLES B.
05:34:48 WILLIAMS PARK LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 2,900 FEET TO THE
05:34:52 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:34:56 AND WHILE FAMILIAR WITH THE MALL, HERE IS THE MALL.
05:35:00 WE HAVE KENNEDY ON THE SOUTH, 275 ON THE NORTH,
05:35:04 WESTSHORE, VERY INTENSIVE AREA FOR THE CITY, PROBABLY THE
05:35:11 MOST INTENSIVE OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
05:35:14 AND THEN HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:35:18 YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IN THIS KIND OF REDDISH
05:35:23 COLOR ALL DOWN WESTSHORE, OVER DOWN KENNEDY IS ALL THAT
05:35:27 REGIONAL MIXED USE 100.
05:35:29 THAT'S THE MOST INTENSIVE CATEGORY OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN
05:35:31 TAMPA.
05:35:33 TO THE NORTH, IN THE GRAY, IS MUNICIPAL AIRPORT,
05:35:39 CATEGORY, TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION OF TIA.
05:35:44 TO THE SOUTH, THE YELLOW, THAT'S SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
05:35:49 REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTIAL 6 CATEGORY.
05:35:52 AND THEN AS WE MOVE EASTWARD FROM WESTSHORE AND THE MALL,
05:35:58 IT IS RESIDENTIAL 35 IN THE DARK BROWN, AND THEN GOES
05:36:01 DOWN TO RESIDENTIAL 20 FOR THE REMAINDER, MOST OF
05:36:06 WESTSHORE PALMS.
05:36:08 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE APPROXIMATELY
05:36:11 54-ACRE WESTSHORE PLAZA SITE TO ALLOW FOR REDEVELOPMENT
05:36:16 OF THE FORMER SPIRIT SITE AND THE CURRENT BANK OF AMERICA
05:36:20 AND SEASONS 52 BUILDINGS AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE PARKING
05:36:24 LOTS.
05:36:24 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MAXIMUM OF APPROXIMATELY 3.5
05:36:30 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF MIXTURE OF USES INCLUDING RETAIL,
05:36:34 MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, HOTEL, AND A NUMBER OF
05:36:38 ADDITIONAL USES.
05:36:40 THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE ALSO INCLUDES A LARGE SEGMENT OF THE
05:36:43 EXISTING MALL.
05:36:44 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES FOR A 1.5 F.A.R. WHICH
05:36:48 IS BELOW THE 3.5 THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER THAT
05:36:52 REGIONAL MIXED USE 100.
05:36:55 THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN PROVIDES FOR AN URBAN STYLE
05:36:58 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WITH SIDEWALKS, TREES, GROUND FLOOR
05:37:03 USES, ORIENTED TO ADJACENT RIGHTS-OF-WAY, STRUCTURED
05:37:07 PARKING INTERNAL AND INTEGRATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
05:37:13 CENTRALLY LOCATED GREEN SPACE IS PROVIDED AND HART
05:37:16 TRANSFER CENTER CONTINUES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
05:37:19 DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING DIRECT TRANSIT CONNECTION.
05:37:21 THE SITE PLAN ALSO PROPOSES WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE
05:37:25 FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THE RECONNECTING OF
05:37:28 NORTH OCCIDENT STREET. THIS ADDITIONAL NORTH-SOUTH
05:37:31 CONNECTION WILL HELP RECONNECT AREAS NORTH OF INTERSTATE
05:37:35 275 AND PROVIDES TO WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
05:37:39 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
05:37:43 HAZARD AREA.
05:37:44 AS SUCH THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO WORK WITH THE CITY
05:37:46 OF TAMPA AND OTHER REGULAR YOU WILL TORE AGENCIES TO
05:37:48 ENSURE ANY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS MITIGATE FOR
05:37:53 THEIR IMPACT TO SHELTER SPACE.
05:37:56 THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE THROUGH THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT.
05:37:59 OVERALL THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS COMPARABLE AND
05:38:01 COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOUND IN
05:38:06 THIS PORTION OF THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS CENTER, AND IT IS
05:38:08 CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATE IT
05:38:11 UNDER THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 FUTURE LAND USE
05:38:15 CATEGORY.
05:38:16 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATION IT IS PLANNING COMMISSION
05:38:18 STAFF DOES FIND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT
05:38:20 WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
05:38:24 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:38:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:38:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:38:28 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
05:38:32 CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
05:38:34 LET ME KNOW WHEN IT COMES UP.
05:38:36 IT SHOULD BE REZ 20-23.
05:38:45 >> YES, IT'S ON THE SCREEN, RYAN.
05:38:48 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE
05:38:53 PROPERTY FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD TO ALLOW FOR
05:38:55 RETAIL SALES, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
05:38:58 OFFICE, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, HOTEL, RESTAURANT,
05:39:01 COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITY, VEHICLE REPAIR MINOR
05:39:04 AND MAJOR, BAR OR LOUNGE, COLLEGE, SCHOOL USES.
05:39:08 THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 275
05:39:12 AND IS BOUNDED BY WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO THE SOUTH,
05:39:15 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO THE EAST AND THE NORTHBOUND
05:39:18 ENTRY TO THE VETERANS EXPRESSWAY AND TAMPA INTERNATIONAL
05:39:22 AIRPORT TO THE WEST.
05:39:25 THE SITE IS THE EXISTING WESTSHORE PLAZA MALL AND
05:39:29 PROPOSED TO DEVELOP THE EAST SIDE OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE
05:39:32 DEVELOPMENT ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE OVERALL SITE.
05:39:34 THE EXISTING RETAIL SHOP WILL REMAIN WITH THE EXCEPTION
05:39:37 OF A FORMER SEARS LOCATION.
05:39:39 THE LOT CONTAINS A TOTAL OF 53.5 ACRES AND THE NEW USES
05:39:45 PROPOSED WILL BE DEVELOPED ALONG THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN
05:39:47 PORTIONS OF THE SITE.
05:39:49 THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE URBAN SCALE
05:39:52 PROJECT ALONG THE KENNEDY AND WESTSHORE BOULEVARD
05:39:55 COMMERCIAL CORE COURSE, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSITION TO
05:39:58 INTEGRATE BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE SIDE
05:40:02 SITE WITH DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST END OF THE SITE.
05:40:05 THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS POINTS, ONE
05:40:08 ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD WITHIN THE PROJECT BOUNDARY, WITH
05:40:11 THE EXISTING VEHICULAR ACCESS POINTS TO REMAIN ON THE
05:40:15 SOUTH ON WEST CONDITIONED BOULEVARD AND A TOTAL OF THREE
05:40:18 12-STORY STRUCTURES ARE PROPOSED, EACH CONTAINING GROUND
05:40:22 FLOOR COMMERCIAL USES INCORPORATED COMMERCIAL AND
05:40:24 RESIDENTIAL USES ABOVE.
05:40:26 TWO ADDITIONAL TEN-STORY STRUCTURES ARE PROPOSED ON THE
05:40:30 WEST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AREA IN CLOSE PROXIMITY
05:40:35 TO THE EXISTING MALL STRUCTURE.
05:40:37 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT PROPOSED IS 120 FEET TO 160
05:40:41 FEET WHICH IS SUBJECT TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AVIATION
05:40:43 AUTHORITY AND FEDERAL AVIATION AUTHORITY APPROVAL.
05:40:46 THERE ARE 11,479 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND 9,757 SPACES
05:40:52 ARE BEING PROVIDED, THAT THERE IS A WAIVER BEING
05:40:55 REQUESTED, AND THAT'S 15% REDUCTION IN THAT PARKING.
05:40:59 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT IN
05:41:02 COMPLIANCE WITH THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARD IS
05:41:05 REQUIRED.
05:41:05 THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT IS TO PROVIDE CHARACTER FORM
05:41:08 BASED PARAMETERS TO ENSURE COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN
05:41:11 THE DISTRICT.
05:41:12 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES TO THE
05:41:15 NORTH, THAT WOULD BE NORTH OF INTERSTATE 275 AND MAC 3
05:41:20 AND OP 1 ZONING DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH
05:41:23 IN THE PD AND OFFICE PROFESSIONAL OP ZONING DISTRICTS,
05:41:27 AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EAST IN THE PD AND COMMERCIAL
05:41:31 CG ZONING DISTRICTS AND THEN COMMERCIAL USES TO THE WEST
05:41:33 IN THE PD ZONING DISTRICT.
05:41:35 ON YOUR SCREEN, AND I LEFT IT UP THERE A LITTLE LONGER,
05:41:38 WAS STRAIGHT FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT AS WELL.
05:41:41 ON PAYMENT 5 IT SHOWS THE PROPOSED SETBACKS AND LABELED
05:41:45 BUILDING.
05:41:46 THEN IT GOES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
05:41:48 THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS, YOU SEE 1 THROUGH 8,
05:41:52 THAT WAS FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD AND THEN THE
05:41:54 PROPOSED 7 WAIVERS THROUGH THIS REQUEST.
05:41:58 THE MAP, AND I KNOW DAVID WENT INTO IT A LITTLE BIT,
05:42:02 INTERSTATE 275 TO THE NORTH AGAIN, AND HERE IS THE ACCESS
05:42:08 TO THE VETERANS EXPRESSWAY, KENNEDY TO THE SOUTH AND
05:42:11 WESTSHORE TO THE EAST.
05:42:12 THE SUBJECT PARCELS ARE HATCHED IN GREEN BUT IT WILL BE
05:42:18 THIS EASTERN PORTION MORE OR LESS WHERE THIS CI IS IN
05:42:21 WHITE GOING STRAIGHT NORTH.
05:42:23 THE AERIAL AGAIN SHOWS ANY HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES,
05:42:27 NATIONAL OR LOCAL WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
05:42:28 THE TAMPAN YEAH HOUSE IS A NATIONAL LANDMARK STRUCTURE
05:42:33 LOCATED WITHIN THAT 1,000-FOOT.
05:42:35 THEN THE SUBJECT PARCEL AGAIN IS OUTLINED IN THE RED
05:42:39 DASH.
05:42:40 A COUPLE PAGES FROM THE SITE PLAN, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A
05:42:44 24-PAGE PACKET SITE PLAN.
05:42:46 THIS IS PAGE 1 SHOWING THE OVERALL SITE, AND THEN AGAIN
05:42:49 THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
05:42:51 THESE SIX BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE SPEAKING OF IN THE STAFF
05:42:53 REPORT IS LIKE THERE'S ONE HERE, TWO, AND IT GOES TO
05:42:57 THREE, FOUR, FIVE IS OVER HERE, AND THEN SIX TO THE
05:43:01 SOUTHERN PORTION.
05:43:02 THE WAIVERS ARE SHOWN THERE AS WELL AS THE ZONING NOTES.
05:43:05 THE SIGNAGE PLAN IS INCLUDED IN THIS PD SITE PLAN.
05:43:09 AND THEN ANOTHER PAGE WILL SHOW SOME OF THE PARKING
05:43:12 LAYOUTS FOR THE MIXED USE BUILDINGS.
05:43:17 AND THEN I JUST PROVIDED A COUPLE PICTURES MAINLY ON THE
05:43:20 EAST SIDE SHOWING YOU THAT WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, WHICH
05:43:23 EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH, BUT THAT'S NORTH AND SOUTH.
05:43:26 AND THEN THIS IS ALONG KENNEDY GOING EAST, AND THEN WEST
05:43:30 TO THE RIGHT.
05:43:32 AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS
05:43:34 REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST
05:43:36 INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
05:43:38 CODE.
05:43:39 PLEASE REFERENCE FINDINGS BY THE TRANSPORTATION
05:43:40 DEPARTMENT RELATED TO THE PARKING WAIVER.
05:43:43 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
05:43:45 APPLICATION AND THE WAIVERS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF
05:43:47 REPORT, THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS NEEDED BETWEEN FIRST AND
05:43:51 SECOND READING OUTLINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT ON THE
05:43:53 REVISION SHEET.
05:43:54 IF IT IS APPROVED, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT REVISION SHEET
05:43:58 CORRECTION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND
05:44:00 PLANNINGS, TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS NATURAL RESOURCES
05:44:02 STAFF ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
05:44:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:44:10 ALL RIGHT.
05:44:10 HEARING NONE, I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:44:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE GOT PAPERS.
05:44:20 I HAVE GOT NOTEBOOKS.
05:44:21 EVERYTHING IS FLYING.
05:44:24 TRANSPORTATION STAFF, WHO DO WE HAVE ON BOARD?
05:44:28 >>RYAN MANASSE: SHOULD BE JONATHAN SCOTT.
05:44:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS JONATHAN SCAT HERE FROM
05:44:44 TRANSPORTATION?
05:44:46 IF YOU CAN BE SWORN IN.
05:44:50 JONATHAN SCOTT.
05:44:51 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
05:44:55 >> YES.
05:44:57 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
05:44:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HEY, JONATHAN, HOW ARE YOU THIS
05:45:01 EVENING?
05:45:03 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
05:45:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD.
05:45:05 SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A BIG PROJECT.
05:45:12 AN OLDER PROJECT, I REMEMBER WHEN WESTSHORE PLAZA WAS
05:45:15 BUILT AND IT WAS VERY EXCITING, I WOULD RIDE MY BIKE TO
05:45:18 WESTSHORE PLAZA AND GO TO THE MOVIES.
05:45:21 BUT ANYWAY, COMPLICATED ISSUES.
05:45:28 I ASSUME -- AND WE WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS LATER -- I
05:45:31 IMAGINE THIS WAS A DRI IN THE BEGINNING.
05:45:35 A COMPLICATED TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
05:45:37 SO YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH MR. COEN TO WRESTLE WITH ALL
05:45:43 THESE POTENTIAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS IN REGARD TO THIS
05:45:47 PROJECT?
05:45:48 DID YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS?
05:45:51 TELL BUS THOSE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF NEW
05:45:54 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, FIRST-TIME RESIDENTIAL I THINK HAS
05:45:58 EVER BEEN INTRODUCED ON THIS PROPERTY.
05:46:01 SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ELIMINATED COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC BY
05:46:05 ELIMINATING THE SEARS, WE HAVE NOW ELIMINATED
05:46:11 RESIDENTIAL.
05:46:13 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: YES, SIR.
05:46:13 WORKED WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT ACCESS MANAGEMENT POINTS,
05:46:19 AND PLEASED WITH THE OUTCOME, BASED ON ALL THE COMMENTS
05:46:24 THAT WE HAD, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT.
05:46:28 WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS.
05:46:30 WE JUST OBJECTED TO THE PARKING WAIVER.
05:46:32 OTHERWISE, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY GOES AND SO FORTH,
05:46:35 THEY MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
05:46:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT SORT OF COMMENTS DID
05:46:42 TRANSPORTATION STAFF -- WHAT SORT OF TRAFFIC COMMENTS DID
05:46:46 YOU GUYS HAVE THAT THEY REVISED AND ADDRESSED?
05:46:51 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: YES, WE HAD SOME COMMENTS ON SOME OTHER
05:46:53 DRIVEWAYS, SOME ACCESS POINTS, AND WE WORKED ALL THOSE
05:46:59 ISSUES OUT SO IT'S EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE
05:47:03 PROJECT WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH.
05:47:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL LOAD
05:47:08 ON THE ADJACENT KENNEDY AND WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, HOW ARE
05:47:15 THEY ADDRESSED ON THOSE OFF-SITE IMPACTS?
05:47:19 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THEY DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY, AND
05:47:22 HAD SOME MITIGATION THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY AS FAR AS
05:47:27 THEIR IMPACTS TO THOSE, THAT THEY HAVE MET THOSE
05:47:32 REQUIREMENTS.
05:47:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO KENNEDY AND WESTSHORE ARE ALREADY
05:47:37 PRETTY DARN BUSY AT RUSH HOUR ESPECIALLY.
05:47:42 DO YOU SEE THIS EXACERBATING THAT?
05:47:44 >> THOSE ARE BUSY INTERSECTIONS.
05:47:50 I DON'T THINK THE CHANGES THEY ARE GOING TO DO, I DON'T
05:47:53 SEE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE FROM THE OVERALL TRAFFIC AND IT
05:47:57 WILL INCREASE A LITTLE BIT BUT NOT THAT MUCH NOTICEABLE,
05:48:03 ALL SAID AND DONE.
05:48:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
05:48:05 THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT.
05:48:07 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: ABSOLUTELY.
05:48:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL
05:48:09 MEMBERS?
05:48:11 HEARING NONE, PETITIONER?
05:48:14 >> KAMI CORBETT, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SWAT 3700
05:48:20 WITH THE LAW FIRM HILL, WARD, HENDERSON, EXCITED TO BE
05:48:23 PART OF THIS TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT.
05:48:26 AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER
05:48:28 TO OUR LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION EXPERT RANDY COEN WHO
05:48:32 YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WHO, WHO LIVES ON WESTSHORE
05:48:36 BOULEVARD AND IS VERY INVOLVED IN THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
05:48:38 WITH THAT, RANDY, I WILL TURN IT TO YOU.
05:48:42 >> RANDY COEN, 2141 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
05:48:48 AND IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN I WILL START THE POWERPOINT.
05:48:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RANDY, SHOULD WE REFER TO YOU AS "THE
05:48:55 DUDE"?
05:48:59 >>RANDY COEN: WHY NOT?
05:49:04 CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN?
05:49:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:49:07 GO AHEAD.
05:49:07 >> RANDY COEN: I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS
05:49:11 PRESENTATION.
05:49:15 WESTSHORE PLAZA, IT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1967.
05:49:18 SO WE PREDATED DRIs IN FLORIDA.
05:49:26 HOWEVER, THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PARCELS
05:49:29 WITHIN THE WESTSHORE AREA-WIDE DRI THAT WAS APPROVED IN
05:49:32 1984, AND ALL OTHER USES IN THIS PARTICULAR REZONING WERE
05:49:37 APPROVED IN THAT DRI, BOTH ADDRESSED AND APPROVED AS
05:49:41 NEEDED.
05:49:41 THE ZONING ACTUALLY HAS DEALT WITH ALL OF THE ON-SITE
05:49:44 ISSUES, ZONING CONSISTENCIES, ET CETERA, AND WE SPENT AN
05:49:48 AWFUL LOT OF TIME WITH JONATHAN SCOTT DEALING WITH
05:49:52 TRANSPORTATION IN THE AREA OF THE MALL AS A RESULT OF
05:49:54 THIS.
05:49:56 I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ONE THING. THIS PROJECT IS
05:49:59 CERTAINLY PAYING ITS APPROPRIATE SHARE FOR TRANSPORTATION
05:50:02 IN THE AREA.
05:50:05 FEES TO BE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER ARE 6,933,929.55.
05:50:14 SO BASICALLY $7 MILLION.
05:50:19 TO REALLY DEAL WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE, I WILL
05:50:21 START WITH THE AERIAL ON THE LEFT.
05:50:24 YOU SEE THE SEARS AUTO CENTER.
05:50:26 THAT IS GOING AWAY.
05:50:27 THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING PARKING GARAGE HERE.
05:50:30 THE SEARS BUILDING ITSELF IS GOING AWAY.
05:50:33 SEASONS 52 IS GOING AWAY BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ONE OF
05:50:37 THE RESTAURATEURS WITHIN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THE
05:50:41 PROJECT AND THE BUILDING DOWN AT THE CORNER OF KENNEDY
05:50:44 AND WEST SHORE IS ALSO GOING AWAY.
05:50:47 ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE ARE BASICALLY SHOWING THREE THINGS
05:50:50 IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
05:50:50 THIS IS -- IT COULD BE ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME.
05:50:56 WE SIMPLY HAVE BROKEN THEM UP INTO THREE BLOCKS FOR THE
05:51:00 PURPOSE OF ASSESSMENT AND DISCUSSING THIS.
05:51:04 THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLANNING MAP WE STARTED WITH.
05:51:08 WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT IS TAKE IT
05:51:11 AWAY FROM BEING A MALL WITH HUGE PARKING LOTS AND A MALL
05:51:15 AND EVERYTHING HAPPENS INSIDE AND NOTHING HAPPENS
05:51:17 OUTSIDE.
05:51:18 WE HAVE CREATED A STREET GRID, TAKEN OCCIDENT WHICH IS
05:51:22 ACTUALLY A PUBLIC ROAD TO HERE.
05:51:25 FROM HERE UP ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROJECT AND THEN THE
05:51:28 FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WILL BE EXTENDING
05:51:31 OCCIDENT UP TO CYPRESS.
05:51:34 VERY IMPORTANT THIS IS WHERE THE HART TRANSIT FACILITY
05:51:36 IS.
05:51:37 IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY ENHANCED BY THIS PROJECT, AND BY
05:51:40 THE CONNECTION AT CYPRESS AND OCCIDENT.
05:51:45 WE HAVE GRAY STREET WHICH IS A PUBLIC ROAD UP TO THIS
05:51:48 POINT, THEN IT IS PRIVATE.
05:51:49 WE HAVE NORTH B WHICH IS A PRIVATE STREET FROM WESTSHORE
05:51:53 BOULEVARD, WILL COME OVER AND CONNECT TO OCCIDENT AND
05:51:56 NORTH A WHICH AGAIN IS A PRIVATE STREET CONNECTING
05:51:59 WESTSHORE OVER TO OCCIDENT.
05:52:01 AN IMPORTANT THING TO REALIZE IS THAT ALL OF THESE
05:52:03 PRIVATE STREETS, WASHINGTON PINE, THE APPLICANT HAS
05:52:08 AGREED THAT THEY WILL DEVELOP THEM TO THE CRITERIA THAT
05:52:10 IS REQUIRED IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY, EVEN THOUGH THEY
05:52:13 ARE PRIVATE STREETS.
05:52:14 SO NOT ONLY ARE WE COMPLYING WITH THE OVERLAY REGARDING
05:52:17 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AND KENNEDY BOULEVARD BUT ALL OF OUR
05:52:23 INTERNAL STREETS WILL BE ADDRESSING THE PARTICULAR
05:52:25 CRITERIA. WE MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS ACTUALLY
05:52:28 WHAT WE'LL CALL THE MASTER PLAN OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
05:52:31 I HAVE FLIPPED THIS SO NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.
05:52:34 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IS ALONG THE TOP OF THE PAGE.
05:52:38 KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS OVER HERE.
05:52:41 ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE.
05:52:43 I WANT TO STARTLE UP AT THE TOP.
05:52:45 THIS IS THE HART FACILITY AND THE OCCIDENT CONNECTION OVER
05:52:50 TO CYPRESS. THIS IS WHERE THE AUTO CARE FACILITY FOR
05:52:53 SEARS CURRENTLY EXISTS, AT LEAST THE BUILDING ITSELF.
05:52:56 IT WILL BE REMOVED. THIS WILL BE A MIXED USE BUILDING,
05:52:59 PRIMARILY MEDICAL OFFICE WITH OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL
05:53:02 AND RESTAURANT.
05:53:03 THIS AREA IS WHERE SEARS CURRENTLY EXISTS, THE RETAIL
05:53:08 STORE ITSELF.
05:53:08 IT WILL BE A HOTEL WITH RESTAURANT AND RETAIL
05:53:12 OPPORTUNITIES ON THE FIRST FLOOR, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO
05:53:16 HAVE AN ENTRANCE INTO THE MALL EXACTLY WHERE IT EXISTS
05:53:19 TODAY WHEN YOU WALK FROM SEARS INTO THE MALL ITSELF.
05:53:22 ADJACENT TOTE HOTEL, WE HAVE A LARGE GREEN OPEN SPACE.
05:53:27 MOVING OVER, THIS IS A SMALL EXPANSION TO THE CURRENT
05:53:30 RESTAURANT THAT EXISTING THERE, PF CHANG, MAGGIANO'S,
05:53:38 ET CETERA.
05:53:38 MOVING TO THE SOUTH THIS IS WHERE BANK OF AMERICA SITS AT
05:53:40 THE CORNER. THIS IS A MIXED USE BUILDING, OFFICE
05:53:43 PRIMARILY IN THIS AREA, RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA ABOVE
05:53:46 THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
05:53:47 THIS IS A MIXED USE PORTION OF THE BUILDING, RETAIL
05:53:51 RESTAURANT, OFFICE, WHATEVER THE MARKET DESIRES FOR THAT
05:53:55 AREA.
05:53:55 WE DO HAVE INTERFACES ON ALL SIDES OF THE BUILDING WITH
05:53:58 THE STREET, SIDEWALKS, WE DO NOT TURN OUR BACK TO
05:54:02 ANYTHING WHETHER IT BE AN INTERNAL STREET OR EXTERNAL
05:54:05 STREET.
05:54:06 NEXT OVER, THIS IS WHERE SEASONS 52 CURRENTLY EXISTS
05:54:10 TODAY.
05:54:10 THIS WILL PRIMARILY BE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH
05:54:15 MIXED USE RETAIL AND OFFICE ON A MAJOR COURTYARD THAT WE
05:54:19 HAVE ACROSS THE -- ACROSS FROM THE GREEN SPACE.
05:54:25 I'M SORRY.
05:54:25 YOU SEE THIS LAVENDER COLOR OR PURPLE COLOR, THIS IS
05:54:29 RESTAURANT AND RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES THAT FACE THE
05:54:31 STREETS, WHETHER IT BE NORTH B, WESTSHORE OR NORTH A.
05:54:36 MOVING TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT BLOCK, THIS IS AN
05:54:39 INTERESTING BLOCK.
05:54:40 RESIDENTIAL ABOVE THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
05:54:43 WE HAVE ON THE GROUND FLOOR IN THIS AREA A SPECIALTY
05:54:46 GROCER.
05:54:48 ABOVE IT IS OFFICE SPACE.
05:54:49 THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR IS RINGED WITH RETAIL AND
05:54:53 RESTAURANT USES.
05:54:55 AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERY PHASE OF EVERY STREET, WE HAVE AN
05:54:59 INTERACTION WITH THE SIDEWALK, WITH THE STREET,
05:55:02 ET CETERA.
05:55:04 MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ONE.
05:55:08 WE HAVE TAKEN CUES FROM OUR NEIGHBORS WHICH IS A 500
05:55:11 NORTH WESTSHORE BUILDING TO THE NORTH AND URBAN CENTER TO
05:55:14 THE SOUTH.
05:55:15 WE ARE BASICALLY MAINTAINING THAT, LOOK ALONG WESTSHORE
05:55:19 BOULEVARD, OF COURSE INCORPORATING ALL THE WESTSHORE
05:55:21 OVERLAY CRITERIA ALONG WESTSHORE BOULEVARD ITSELF.
05:55:25 NEXT SLIDE.
05:55:26 SAME IDEA.
05:55:27 BUT HERE WE SHOW YOU THE ARCHITECTURE AND WHAT'S GOING
05:55:31 ON.
05:55:31 THIS WOULD BE THE OFFICES, WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.
05:55:33 THIS OF COURSE IS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD MOVING UP TOWARD
05:55:36 THE EXISTING 500 WESTSHORE.
05:55:40 HERE ARE SOME REALLY NICE RENDERINGS. THIS IS AT THE
05:55:43 CORNER OF KENNEDY AND WESTSHORE.
05:55:45 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD GOING TO THE NORTH HERE, KENNEDY
05:55:47 BOULEVARD GOING TO THE LEFT OVER HERE.
05:55:50 THIS IS THE OFFICE BUILDING.
05:55:51 THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
05:55:53 EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE LARGE BLOCKS OF BUILDING, WE DO A
05:55:56 GOOD JOB, I BELIEVE, OF SEPARATING THE BUILDINGS AND NOT
05:56:00 MAKING THEM SEEM AS LARGE AS THEY ACTUALLY ARE.
05:56:04 YOU EVEN SEE THE INTERFACE WITH THE STREETS.
05:56:07 MOVING TO THE NEXT, THIS IS ACTUALLY NORTH B.
05:56:11 THIS ON THE LEFT WOULD BE WHERE SEASONS 352 CURRENTLY
05:56:14 EXISTS.
05:56:15 THIS WOULD BE TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT BUT SIMPLY A
05:56:18 PARKING LOT.
05:56:19 YOU HAVE PF CHANG'S, MAGGIANO'S, ET CETERA, AT THE END OF
05:56:24 NORTH B HERE. THIS IS OFFICE ABOVE THE GROCERY STORE
05:56:26 THAT'S OVER IN THIS AREA.
05:56:28 WE AGAIN WITH RETAIL AND RESTAURANT ALONG WESTSHORE
05:56:31 BOULEVARD AS WELL AS ALL OF THE OTHER STREETS OF THIS
05:56:34 PARTICULAR BLOCK, AND RESIDENTIAL ABOVE.
05:56:36 I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ALL HAVE THEIR
05:56:40 OWN PRIVATE RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ON THE TOP OF THE
05:56:43 GARAGE, THEIR TOP FLOORS ARE GREEN, WITH POOLS AND
05:56:47 VARIOUS AMENITIES.
05:56:50 THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE PICTURE.
05:56:52 WE ARE LOOKING NORTH ACROSS OCCIDENT.
05:56:54 SHOWED YOU WHERE THAT LARGE PLAZA WAS.
05:56:57 THIS IS WHERE IT ACTUALLY EXISTS, THE RESTAURANTS AND
05:57:01 RETAIL ON THIS SIDE TO. THIS POINT ARE THE LARGE GREEN
05:57:05 AREAS, WE HAVE ADJACENT TO THE HOTEL.
05:57:07 DOWN FROM THE HOTEL YOU CAN SEE THE MEDICAL OFFICE THAT
05:57:10 WE ARE PROPOSING.
05:57:11 YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S ON THAT BLOCK TO
05:57:14 THE NORTH.
05:57:17 NOW, TALK ABOUT WAIVERS FOR A MOMENT.
05:57:20 WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM BUT THEY ARE BASICALLY BROKEN UP
05:57:23 INTO THREE CATEGORIES.
05:57:24 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS, THERE ARE EIGHT OF THOSE.
05:57:27 THEN WE HAVE SOME APPROVED WAIVERS THAT WE HAVE MODIFIED.
05:57:30 THERE ARE FOUR OF THOSE.
05:57:31 AND THEN WE HAVE THREE NEW WAIVERS.
05:57:33 AND I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S
05:57:35 SOMETHING THAT WE MUST DO IN THIS PARTICULAR
05:57:37 PRESENTATION.
05:57:38 THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT'S USED TO DETERMINE WHETHER
05:57:41 WAIVERS ARE APPROPRIATE.
05:57:43 WE CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT ALL THE WAIVERS WE WILL DISCUSS
05:57:47 ARE APPROPRIATE.
05:57:48 THESE ARE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS.
05:57:50 BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WAIVER ONE WAS TO PROVIDE
05:57:57 SOME OF ITS TREE AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ON THE
05:57:59 ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
05:58:00 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ACKNOWLEDGED.
05:58:10 SECOND WAIVER, WE ARE EXEMPTING THE EXISTING MALL BECAUSE
05:58:13 IT PREDATES IT.
05:58:15 WE ARE NOT EXEMPTING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT, SIMPLY THE
05:58:18 EXISTING MALL ITSELF.
05:58:19 THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD BRING IT UP TO THE STREET.
05:58:22 THIRD WAIVER AGAIN FOR THE EXISTING MALL, THE PARKING LOT
05:58:25 DOES NOT HAVE THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND IN IT THAT ONE WOULD
05:58:28 NORMALLY SEE TODAY SO WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND
05:58:31 RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS A WAIVER, BUT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH
05:58:33 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND APPROVED IN THE
05:58:37 PAST.
05:58:42 FOURTH WAIVER, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DUMPSTERS ON THE
05:58:45 SITE.
05:58:45 HOWEVER THEY DO NOT NECESSARILY MEET THE SCREENING THAT'S
05:58:48 REQUIRED IN THE CODE TODAY.
05:58:49 BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER SO THAT IN FACT THEY CAN
05:58:52 REMAIN AS THEY EXIST.
05:58:57 NEXT WE HAVE OUR BUFFERS.
05:58:59 FROM 8 FEET TO ZERO FEET.
05:59:01 THESE ARE EXISTING BUFFERS THAT WERE APPROVED.
05:59:03 WE SIMPLY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY REMAIN CONSISTENT
05:59:06 WITH PART OF THE PROJECT.
05:59:08 WE HAVE WALL SIGNS THAT ARE APPROVED FOR THE NORTH SIDE
05:59:12 OF THE PARKING GARAGE THAT FACES I-275.
05:59:17 THEY ARE THERE TODAY.
05:59:18 THEY NEED A WAIVER TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY THERE.
05:59:20 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE SIGNS OR ANY ADDITIONAL
05:59:22 SQUARE FOOTAGE, JUST RECOGNITION OF THE PREVIOUS
05:59:25 APPROVAL.
05:59:26 WE ALSO HAVE A PYLON SIGN ADJACENT TO I-275 FOR WESTSHORE
05:59:32 PLAZA.
05:59:32 IT INTENDS TO REMAIN IN PLACE.
05:59:34 WE SIMPLY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN FACT IT'S THERE TO
05:59:36 PROVE IT WILL REMAIN.
05:59:40 WE ALSO HAVE THE APPROVALS FOR SIGN ALONG MEMORIAL
05:59:44 HIGHWAY, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN IN PLACE, BUT WE WANT TO
05:59:48 PRESERVE THAT PARTICULAR PREVIOUS GROUPING.
05:59:54 MODIFIED WAIVERS.
05:59:55 THESE ARE WAIVERS THAT EXIST BUT WE ARE HAVING TO CHANGE
05:59:56 THEM AROUND.
05:59:57 PLACEMENT MOBILITY SIGNS.
05:59:58 WE ARE ADDING NEW BUILDINGS SO WE HAVE TO MODIFY THE
06:00:01 WAIVER TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW BUILDINGS.
06:00:03 WE DO HAVE A PARKING WAIVER IN THE PAST.
06:00:05 WE ARE INCREASING IT TO 15%.
06:00:07 THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT MIXED USE PROJECT, SUBSTANTIAL
06:00:12 AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OFFICE,
06:00:15 SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RETAIL.
06:00:17 THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS, AND THIS IS A
06:00:20 VERY APPROPRIATE AND APPLICABLE PARKING REDUCTION FOR
06:00:24 THIS TYPE OF MIXED USE.
06:00:25 UNFORTUNATELY, CITY CODE CURRENTLY DOES NOT RECOGNIZE
06:00:29 MIXED USE PROJECTS FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT.
06:00:33 NEXT ONE WE HAVE HERE IS A WAIVER OF THE SIGNING
06:00:36 REQUIREMENTS, APPROVAL OF ALL SIGNS.
06:00:37 WHAT WE HAVE IS A TOTAL OF 9,200 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNS
06:00:41 APPROVED.
06:00:42 THE REASON WE HAVE THIS IS TO BE MODIFIED WAIVER IS THAT
06:00:46 OF COURSE WE HAVE NEW BUILDINGS WITH NEW SIGN LOCATIONS
06:00:49 WHICH WE HAVE SHOWN BUT WE NEED TO MODIFY THE WAIVER TO
06:00:53 ADDRESS THAT.
06:00:53 FINALLY, AND THE LAST PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS,
06:00:58 LOADING BERTHS.
06:01:00 THERE ARE SHARED LOADING BERTHS WITHIN THE MALL SO THE
06:01:03 INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS NEED NOT COMPLY WITH THE NUMBER OF
06:01:05 LOADING BERTHS THAT ARE NECESSARY BUT THE PROJECT HAS
06:01:09 VERY WELL FUNCTIONED.
06:01:11 HERE IS OUR NEW WAIVER.
06:01:13 ONLY THREE OF THEM.
06:01:14 ONE TO ALLOW THE SIGN AREA ON BUILDINGS TO BE ON ALL
06:01:16 SIDES.
06:01:18 YOU MIGHT ASK WHY ARE WE DOING THAT?
06:01:20 WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INTERNAL PRIVATE STREETS.
06:01:23 SIGNS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON THOSE BUILDINGS ON THOSE STREET
06:01:26 FRONTAGES SINCE THEY ARE NOT RECOGNIZED AS STREET
06:01:29 FRONTAGES SINCE THEY ARE PRIVATE.
06:01:31 WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING TO ALLOW TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE SIGNS
06:01:35 ON ALL THE SIGNS OF THE BUILDING THAT HAVE EITHER PRIVATE
06:01:37 OR PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGE SO WE CAN KEEP THOSE STREETS
06:01:40 LOOKING AND FEELING LIKE THEY ARE PUBLIC STREETS EVEN
06:01:43 THOUGH THEY ARE PRIVATE.
06:01:45 NEXT ONE IS TWO NONHAZARDOUS GREEN TREES, ADJACENT TO THE
06:01:54 SEARS AUTO CARE CENTER.
06:01:55 WE TRIED TO RETAIN THEM BUT THERE'S NO WAY.
06:01:58 THE REASON BEING THAT WITH THE NEW REQUIREMENTS OF
06:02:01 FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION WE WILL HAVE A MINIMUM OF FOUR AND A
06:02:04 HALF FEET OF FILL OVER VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE NEW
06:02:07 DEVELOPMENT AREA OF THE SITE.
06:02:09 AS A RESULT, TO KEEP THESE TREES, THEY END UP BEING TREE
06:02:12 WELLS.
06:02:13 THEREFORE THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE.
06:02:16 I KNOW NATURAL RESOURCES HAS ACTUALLY AGREED WITH US ON
06:02:21 THAT.
06:02:22 BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM.
06:02:27 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
06:02:28 I JUST HIT A BUTTON I SHOULD NOT HAVE HIT.
06:02:30 LET'S GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE.
06:02:33 FOR APPROVAL. THIS IS PART OF THE EXISTING WESTSHORE
06:02:35 AREA WIDE DRI.
06:02:37 WE HAVE NO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE OBJECTIONS FROM.
06:02:40 WE HAVE SEEN THAT TODAY WE HAVE OBJECTION FROM THE
06:02:46 PARTICULAR FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE OF WESTSHORE BOULEVARD
06:02:48 AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
06:02:52 WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE AGENCIES AND REVIEWS
06:02:54 FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA, EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING WAIVER OUT
06:02:57 OF TRANSPORTATION.
06:02:58 SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE I BELIEVE HAS BEEN
06:03:03 SUBMITTED TO JUSTIFY ALL OF THE WAIVERS AND DEMONSTRATE
06:03:07 THAT WE HAVE SATISFIED ALL THE CRITERIA.
06:03:11 FINALLY, PLANNING COMMISSION HAS CONSIDERED THIS
06:03:14 APPROPRIATE.
06:03:15 I DO REMEMBER AT THIS POINT THAT ONE WAIVER THAT I DIDN'T
06:03:18 FULLY EXPLAIN.
06:03:19 WE HAVE ONLY ONE WAIVER FROM THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY IN
06:03:23 THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT IS TAKING US BACK FROM
06:03:28 10 FEET TO ZERO FEET ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
06:03:30 THE D.O.T. HAS A 20 BY 20 PARCEL OF LAND THEY OWN WHERE
06:03:37 THEY HAVE A SIGN.
06:03:39 WE ARE REQUESTING ZERO SETBACK FOR THAT 20 FEET SO WE
06:03:41 HAVE A CONSISTENT BUILDING FACE ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD,
06:03:44 AND I BELIEVE WE CERTAINLY ADDRESSED AND MAINTAINED THE
06:03:48 NATURE AND SPIRIT OF THE OVERLAY.
06:03:51 WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT ONE MINOR WAIVER FROM THE OVERLAY
06:03:56 ITSELF.
06:03:56 WITH THAT I WILL WRAP IT UP.
06:03:58 WE ARE MOVING THIS FROM A MALL TO A TRUE MIXED USE
06:04:01 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS LIVE, WORK, PLAY.
06:04:04 WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY EXCEPT FOR
06:04:06 THAT ONE ITEM WE DISCUSSED IN THE WAIVER.
06:04:08 THIS IS CERTAINLY A VERY WALKABLE MIXED USE FACILITY.
06:04:11 YOU CAN WORK HERE.
06:04:12 YOU CAN LIVE HERE.
06:04:13 YOU CAN PLAY HERE.
06:04:14 YOU CAN SHOP HERE.
06:04:15 YOU CAN GET YOUR GROCERIES HERE.
06:04:17 AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE A BUS FROM HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE
06:04:19 A TRANSIT CENTER.
06:04:20 WE ALSO, BY THE WAY HAVE, A VERY EXTENSIVE DROP-OFF AND
06:04:27 PICK UP AREA FOR VALET, UBER, LYFT, ET CETERA IN THE
06:04:34 GREEN SPACE.
06:04:34 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO KAMI.
06:04:37 >> THANK YOU.
06:04:38 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE ARE AVAILABLE TO
06:04:40 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
06:04:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS
06:04:45 BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
06:04:47 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:04:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, RANDY.
06:04:54 RANDY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, SINCE MR. SHELBY LIKES TO
06:04:58 MAKE SURE THERE'S A GOOD RECORD, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW YOU,
06:05:01 YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE US YOUR CREDENTIALS.
06:05:06 >> I'M A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER, AICP FOR 20-SOME YEARS.
06:05:13 I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN PROJECTS IN TAMPA SINCE THE EARLY
06:05:15 1970s.
06:05:17 I HAVE DONE MORE THAN 70 DRIs ACROSS THE STATE OF
06:05:19 FLORIDA.
06:05:20 ONE OF MY SPECIALTY AREAS IN FACT ARE DRIs ON MORE THAN
06:05:24 20 DRIs INFORM MALLS ACROSS THE STREET, FLORIDA MALL,
06:05:28 AMENDMENT AND DRIs THEMSELVES.
06:05:30 I HAVE STARTED MY CAREER OUT DOING TRANSPORTATION AND
06:05:33 TRAFFIC SIGNAL DESIGN.
06:05:34 SO I HAVE A VERY STRONG BACKGROUND IN TRANSPORTATION AS
06:05:38 WELL THAT QUALIFIES ME TO DO THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSES
06:05:41 ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PROJECTS.
06:05:42 AND I WILL TELL YOU MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE DEVELOPER OF A
06:05:45 MALL, THE LAST THING THEY WANT TO SEE IS A TRAFFIC
06:05:48 PROBLEM IN FRONT OF THEIR SITE.
06:05:49 I WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS INFORM A LIVING IF I DIDN'T DO
06:05:51 IT WELL ENOUGH TO SATISFY THEIR DEMANDS WHICH FRANKLY ARE
06:05:54 GREATER THAN THE CITY'S
06:06:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
06:06:04 SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE SAID IT.
06:06:06 MAYBE STAFF SAID IT OR SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE SAID IT ALONG
06:06:08 THE LINES, BUT REFRESH MY MEMORY.
06:06:11 HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL, NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS -- WELL, IT'S
06:06:14 ALL NEW WHEN IT COMES TO --
06:06:16 >> IT'S ALL NEW.
06:06:17 THE MAXIMUM NUMBER WE REQUESTED WAS 1,765 UNITS SPREAD
06:06:21 OUT OVER THE THREE MAJOR BLOCKS.
06:06:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WHAT SORT OF
06:06:28 PHASING ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THIS IS A
06:06:34 DECADE-LONG PROJECT?
06:06:36 >> IT VERY WELL COULD BE. THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING
06:06:39 THAT WILL BE EXTREMELY UNUSUAL IF IT WERE ALL DEVELOPED
06:06:42 AT THE SAME TIME.
06:06:42 SO THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS IT WILL BE OVER A PERIOD
06:06:46 OF TIME, OFTEN, IF YOU WILL, THE NORTHERNMOST BLOCK IS A
06:06:52 VERY LARGE BLOCK SO IT COULD EVEN BE DEVELOPED IN
06:06:56 SECTIONS, IF YOU WILL.
06:06:57 THE OTHER TWO BLOCKS WOULD BE LIKELY DEVELOPED AT ONE
06:07:00 TIME.
06:07:02 THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY IT COULD ALL BE DEVELOPED
06:07:04 TOGETHER.
06:07:04 IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
06:07:07 BUT IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL.
06:07:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WANTED TO
06:07:14 EXEMPT THE REMAINDER OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY
06:07:20 FROM THE REQUIREMENTS, THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT.
06:07:25 IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE NOT DOING
06:07:28 ANYTHING WITH THOSE BUILDINGS LIKE DICK'S AND MACYS AND
06:07:35 THAT SORT OF THING AND PENNEYS AT THIS TIME.
06:07:38 BUT DOWN THE ROAD, IF YOU CAME BACK AND SAID, WOW, IT WAS
06:07:48 SUCH A SUCCESS WE ARE GOING TO LEVEL THE WHOLE MALL AND
06:07:51 DO THE SAME THING ON THE WEST SIDE.
06:07:54 AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T REALLY A QUESTION FOR YOU AS MUCH AS
06:07:56 IT IS FOR KATE.
06:08:00 BUT WHAT YOUR EXEMPTION CARRY THROUGH TO THE WEST SIDE,
06:08:03 AND THEREFORE YOU WOULD BE EXEMPTED FROM THE WESTSHORE
06:08:06 OVERLAY FOR THAT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE WEST SIDE?
06:08:09 >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS INDICATE WELLS.
06:08:14 IF YOU ARE ASKING ME -- CATE WELLS, THE EXEMPTION WOULD
06:08:18 BE LIMITED TO HOW IT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN THAT IS
06:08:20 BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
06:08:21 >> AND FROM MY PERCEPTION, WE HAVE ASKED FOR FLEXIBILITY
06:08:26 ON THE EASTERN SIDE WHERE WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT GOING.
06:08:28 WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR THAT FLEXIBILITY ON THE WEST SIDE.
06:08:31 SO IF WE WERE TO DO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES ON THE WEST SIDE
06:08:36 THAT DID NOT CONFORM TO CITY CRITERIA, AMOUNTS TO
06:08:40 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, THEN WE WOULD BE REZONING THE
06:08:42 PROPERTY.
06:08:42 AND AT THAT POINT I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY DIFFERENT
06:08:46 ISSUE AS TO WHETHER THAT WAIVER FROM THE OVERLAY WOULD
06:08:50 REMAIN OR NOT.
06:08:51 I PERSONALLY HOPE IT WOULD NOT BECAUSE I HAVE A GREAT
06:08:54 DEAL OF FAITH IN THE OVERLAY.
06:08:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. CORBETT, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION
06:08:58 ON THAT, AN ASSERTION?
06:09:01 >> CORBETT: THE LANGUAGE DID SAY FOR AN EXISTING
06:09:06 DEVELOPMENT ONLY SO THAT WOULD BE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
06:09:09 I CONCUR WITH MS. WELLS AND MR. COEN WITH RESPECT TO THE
06:09:13 APPLICATION OF THAT.
06:09:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
06:09:19 IN REGARD TO THE SIGNAGE, I HAVE SEEN THE BIG SIGNS THAT
06:09:24 YOU CAN SEE FROM THE INTERSTATE.
06:09:26 I CAN'T RECALL IF THEY ARE CURRENTLY DIGITAL OR NOT.
06:09:33 ARE THEY?
06:09:34 AND IF NOT, HAVE YOU ALL ADDRESSED DIGITAL OR NOT?
06:09:38 >> RANDY COEN: THERE IS ONE EXISTING BILLBOARD ON THE
06:09:44 PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO I-275 AND IT'S SEPARATELY
06:09:46 CONTROLLED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THEIR SIGN ORDINANCE
06:09:49 REGARDING BILLBOARDS AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT I WOULD
06:09:52 SUSPECT THERE MAY BE SOME PURVIEW FROM THE FLORIDA
06:09:55 DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON THAT BILLBOARD AS WELL
06:09:58 SINCE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE UNIT STATE.
06:09:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAID THERE WERE FOUR BILLBOARD I
06:10:03 THINK?
06:10:06 >> THERE ARE FOUR SIGNS THAT ARE PERMITTED ON THE NORTH
06:10:08 SIDE OF THE EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE THAT FACES I-275.
06:10:13 THEY ARE NOT BILLBOARDS, THEY ARE SIMPLY SIGNS THAT ARE
06:10:16 ATTACHED TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND HAVE BEEN CHANGED
06:10:20 OUT FROM TIME TO TIME.
06:10:22 THEY ALSO HAVE SIGN LIMITATIONS.
06:10:24 THEY ARE BY NO MEANS ANYTHING NEAR THE SIZE OF THE
06:10:26 BILLBOARD.
06:10:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO GOING TO MY QUESTION, I BELIEVE
06:10:29 THE CODE ALLOWS PRIVATE SIGNS LIKE THAT, ADVERTISING
06:10:36 BUSINESSES TO CONVERT OVER TO DIGITAL?
06:10:41 I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BILLBOARD CODE, I AM TALKING
06:10:43 ABOUT THE REGULAR CODE.
06:10:46 MS. WELLS, YOU CAN CORRECT ME, OR MR. SHELBY, IF I AM
06:10:50 WRONG.
06:10:50 SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, MS. WELLS, PERHAPS, IS THERE
06:10:56 POTENTIAL FOR THOSE VERY LARGE SIGNS TO ALL BE DIGITAL IF
06:11:03 THEY FALL OUTSIDE OF THE BILLBOARD CODE, AND DID YOUR PD
06:11:08 APPLICATION ADDRESS THOSE, MS. CORBETT?
06:11:12 >> IT DID NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS TO THE MY KNOWLEDGE.
06:11:15 MR. COEN, YOU ARE MOST INTIMATELY INVOLVED. THIS IS A
06:11:19 TWO YEAR LONG PROCESS AS FAR AS HOW THE PLAN IS INVOLVED
06:11:22 SO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO DAN.
06:11:26 >> WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SIGN PLAN.
06:11:28 THE SIGN PLAN DOES NOT SEEK ANY DIGITAL SIGNS.
06:11:31 WHATEVER WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER CODE, THAT WAS BOTH
06:11:34 CONSISTENT WITH THE ALTERNATIVE SIGN PLAN, AND CITY OF
06:11:37 TAMPA SIGN CODE WOULD LIKELY BE PERMISSIBLE.
06:11:40 THESE PARTICULAR SIGNS, I BELIEVE, ARE REGULATED TO THE
06:11:43 POINT WHERE THEY ARE BASICALLY GOING FROM MEMORY, BUT I
06:11:47 BELIEVE FOUR SIGNS ON THIS PARKING STRUCTURE ARE
06:11:50 SOMETHING LIKE 12 FEET BY 16 OR 18 FEET MAXIMUM SIZE.
06:11:55 SO THEY ARE RELATIVELY SMALL SIGNS WHEN YOU COMPARE THEM
06:11:58 TO A BILLBOARD.
06:12:00 THEY ARE ABOUT I THINK THE SIZE, FULL, AND THEY CAN ONLY
06:12:05 ADVERTISE ON-SITE USES.
06:12:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
06:12:11 AND HOW ABOUT THE TREES?
06:12:14 I LOOKED AT THE STAFF REPORT.
06:12:16 I DIDN'T SEE A TREE REPORT INCLUDED.
06:12:21 MR. MANASSE, DID YOU SAY WE HAVE TREE STAFF STANDING BY?
06:12:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: YOU SHOULD HAVE BILL BORES, SIR, IF HE
06:12:29 COULD BE BROUGHT IN.
06:12:31 THEY ARE TRYING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
06:12:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RANDY, WHEN I MENTION "THE DUDE," YOU
06:12:54 KNOW I SAY IT WITH LOVE.
06:12:55 >> I TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT.
06:13:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LUIS, OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THE REFERENCE
06:13:11 THERE.
06:13:12 >> WHILE WAITING FOR BILL, I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE
06:13:17 BACKGROUND ON THOSE TREES.
06:13:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OR ANY
06:13:23 KIND OF ABILITY TO SHOW US, YOU KNOW -- I HEAR WHAT YOU
06:13:29 ARE SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDED IN A DEEP WELL AND
06:13:33 THAT SORT OF THING.
06:13:34 BUT THE PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, I THINK.
06:13:36 >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY PICTURES.
06:13:39 I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE TREES HAVE TOLERATED WHERE THEY
06:13:43 ARE LOCATED TODAY.
06:13:44 THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ABOUT A FOOT OR SO OF DEPRESSION THAT
06:13:48 THEY SIT IN, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN THE SEARS AUTO CARE CENTER
06:13:52 WAS BUILT, THE ELEVATIONS WERE RAISED AND THEY WERE ABLE
06:13:55 TO LESSEN THAT TREE WELL WHILE MAKING IT A VERY LARGE
06:13:59 AREA.
06:14:00 BUT THEY START OUT SO THAT AS MUCH AS A FOOT BELOW THE
06:14:02 SURROUNDING GRADE.
06:14:05 AND WHEN WE HAVE FOUR AND A HALF FEET OF FILL TO THE
06:14:08 PROPERTY, THEN OF COURSE IT BECOMES A TOTALLY INTOLERABLE
06:14:12 SITUATION.
06:14:12 I KNOW THAT BILL HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR
06:14:16 ARBORIST, RICKY PETERIKA, AND THEY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION
06:14:22 THERE WAS NO FEASIBLE WAY FOR THESE TREES TO BE REMAIN TO
06:14:26 THE SITE.
06:14:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING BILL
06:14:29 UP, MY LAST QUESTION, MR. COEN AND MS. CORBETT, YOU ARE
06:14:35 ADJACENT TO AT LEAST TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS --
06:14:46 >> HERE IT GOES.
06:14:47 >> BILL BORES, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THEM ON FOR YOU,
06:14:53 GENTLEMEN.
06:14:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN YOU ARE ON CAMERA.
06:14:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN WAIT.
06:14:59 WHENEVER YOU COME UP, BILL, WE'LL GET YOU.
06:15:01 BUT MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU, MR. COEN, MS. CORBETT, WAS
06:15:06 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, I IMAGINE YOU PROBABLY WENT
06:15:09 OUT AND MADE A PRESENTATION?
06:15:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
06:15:14 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
06:15:17 >> I DO, YES.
06:15:28 >>BILL BORES: WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
06:15:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT YOU HAD LONG CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
06:15:34 THESE TWO GRAND TREES, AND BECAUSE OF THE SURROUNDING
06:15:37 FILL, YOU SAID, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHAT HE
06:15:42 SAID.
06:15:43 YOU TELL US.
06:15:45 >>BILL BORES: OKAY.
06:15:46 THE GRAND TREES ON THE SITE, THE SEARS AUTO CENTER.
06:15:50 AND A LIVE OAK.
06:15:58 BUT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ANYWHERE FROM THREE AND A HALF TO
06:16:04 FIVE FEET OF FILL.
06:16:06 AND THEY ARE ABOUT TEN FEET APART.
06:16:09 THERE ARE TWO GRAND OAKS, CANOPIES THAT MAKE UP ONE TREE.
06:16:16 SOMETHING OUT OF THE EXTRAORDINARY TO PRESERVE.
06:16:20 IN MY EXPERIENCE, TREE WELLS, IN THE DRAINAGE AREA AND
06:16:33 SEDIMENT FILLS UP, THE AREA FLOODS, AND.
06:16:38 ALTERNATIVELY, THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR FEET OF SWALE.
06:16:49 SO IN THIS CASE, THE STRONGEST CASE IS TO CUT THEM AT THE
06:16:53 BASE, AND START OFF WITH A CLASS OF TREES AT A HIGHER
06:16:59 ELEVATION.
06:17:00 THERE WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DONE BY PETERIKA ON THESE
06:17:06 TWO TREES, AND HIS FINDINGS ARE THE SAME.
06:17:12 THE TREES WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE FINISHED GRADE,
06:17:14 AND IT IS RECOMMENDED REMOVAL.
06:17:17 AND HE'S A TREE GUY AS MUCH AS I AM, ALSO A FINE
06:17:21 ARBORIST.
06:17:22 SO IN CONCLUSION, IT'S BETTER ALL THE WAY AROUND TO
06:17:28 [AUDIO INTERFERENCE] MITIGATE THESE TREES.
06:17:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
06:17:34 AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, MS. CORBETT, ABOUT
06:17:37 NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:17:37 >> KAMI CORBETT: YES.
06:17:42 I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
06:17:44 ASSOCIATION.
06:17:45 THE LAWYERS THAT WERE HANDLING THE CASE WITH MR. COEN
06:17:49 PRIOR TO ME JOINING HILL, WARD, HENDERSON MET WITH
06:17:52 WESTSHORE PALMS ON-SITE.
06:17:56 BUT JUST TO KNOW, WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND NOTICED
06:17:59 THEM, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OBJECTION FROM THEM,
06:18:04 AND THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE GOTTEN IS WHATEVER CHANGES WE
06:18:06 WERE MADE SATISFIED ANY CONCERNS THEY HAVE.
06:18:09 GO AHEAD.
06:18:10 >> WE ACTUALLY HAD MEETINGS AT THE MALL WITH BOTH THOSE
06:18:13 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
06:18:15 I BELIEVE WE HAD TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS WITH THEM, WITH
06:18:18 THEM JOINTLY THERE TOGETHER, WENT OVER THE ENTIRE
06:18:21 PROJECT, ET CETERA.
06:18:22 AND I KNOW KAMI HAS REACHED OUT TO THEM SUBSEQUENT TO THE
06:18:27 COVID ISSUE WHERE WE CAN'T MEET WITH NEIGHBORS THAT WELL
06:18:30 AND FOUND THAT NEITHER OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS OFFERED
06:18:33 LETTERS OF OBJECTION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
06:18:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:18:39 THANK YOU.
06:18:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:18:40 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
06:18:44 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
06:18:46 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
06:18:47 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, YES, WE DO AND I AM GOING TO BRING
06:18:52 THEM OVER NOW.
06:18:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:18:54 >>THE CLERK:
06:18:59 >>CHAIRMAN:
06:19:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE?
06:19:07 >> JUST ONE.
06:19:11 THE SPEAKER IS KIM McLAUGHLIN THERE.
06:19:15 WE GO.
06:19:16 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
06:19:18 >> GOOD EVENING.
06:19:26 MY NAME IS TIM -- 211 SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE REPRESENTING
06:19:32 BEACH PARK HOME OAR OWNERS ASSOCIATION TO THE SOUTH OF
06:19:35 THE PROJECT ACROSS KENNEDY.
06:19:37 MR. HEY HAD ON HIS DIAGRAM NUMBER 2.
06:19:40 THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 1200 RESIDENCES IN BEACH PARK.
06:19:44 SO THE SPAN ACROSS BOTH THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF FROM
06:19:51 WESTSHORE OVER TO LOIS AND THE WATER AT TAMPA BAY.
06:19:53 FIRST WE ARE GENERALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
06:19:55 WE THINK IT'S A GREAT URBAN DESIGN.
06:19:57 WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING
06:19:59 SOUGHT.
06:20:01 WE DO HAVE TWO AREAS OF CONCERN IN THE REZONING RELATED
06:20:04 TO CHAPTER 27 SECTION 136 IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
06:20:08 THE FIRST ONE IS THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT MR. DINGFELDER
06:20:12 MENTIONED.
06:20:15 NOW, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS ABOUT 400 PAGES SO THERE'S A
06:20:19 LOT TO GO THROUGH.
06:20:20 THERE'S ALSO SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN SOME OF THE NUMBERS
06:20:23 THAT SEEM TO BE AS A RESULT OF ADJUSTING FOR THE PUBLIX.
06:20:26 BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE AREA THAT AFFECTS THE
06:20:28 NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF
06:20:31 KENNEDY, JUST THAT PART ALONE WOULD HAVE ABOUT 150% MORE
06:20:37 SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC, AND 93% MORE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC AS A
06:20:41 RESULT OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT DEPENDS ON WHICH TIME OF
06:20:44 THE DAY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S THE AM OR PM
06:20:48 TRIP.
06:20:48 SO WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE TRAFFIC IS ADVERSE IMPACT TO
06:20:51 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SINCE WESTSHORE RUNS RIGHT THROUGH IT.
06:20:54 AND THE LARGE INCREASE, ELEMENTS 1 AND 5 OF THE MUNICIPAL
06:21:02 CODE, THAT WOULD BE OUR FIRST CONCERN.
06:21:04 .
06:21:10 THE SECOND ONE IS SCHOOL CAPACITY. THIS HAS THE SAME AS
06:21:13 BEACH PARK.
06:21:14 THE SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT IN NORMAL TIMES OBVIOUSLY ARE
06:21:16 ALREADY OVERUTILIZED.
06:21:19 WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CON RESTAURANT ON THE SCHOOL
06:21:21 SYSTEM, THE BUDGET, ET CETERA.
06:21:22 THERE WAS AN ADEQUATE FACILITIES ANALYSIS DONE FOR THIS
06:21:25 PROJECT.
06:21:26 IT INDICATES THAT THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE.
06:21:28 GRADE I ELEMENTARY ALONE IS FORECAST TO HAVE A 40%
06:21:33 INCREASE IN UTILIZATION AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT.
06:21:35 SO AGAIN, SCHOOL OVERUTILIZATION SEEMS TO BE AN ADVERSE
06:21:40 IMPACT TO THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:21:42 IN THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PUBLIC SCHOOL
06:21:45 FACILITIES OBJECTIVE 2.3 INDICATES THAT THE CITY SHALL
06:21:48 MANAGE APPROVALS TO ENSURE THAT ADEQUATE CAPACITY IS
06:21:51 AVAILABLE.
06:21:51 SO BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE MUNICIPAL
06:21:54 CODE, WE BELIEVE THAT MITIGATION FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE
06:21:57 CRUCIAL TO ADDRESS.
06:22:00 AGAIN, I DID REVIEW THE PLANS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
06:22:03 I MENTIONED THE INCONSISTENCY IN THE TRAFFIC.
06:22:06 THE OTHER THING I DID SEE IS THAT TRANSPORTATION
06:22:08 INDICATED THAT BIKE RACKS SHOULD BE PRESENT IN THE
06:22:12 BUILDINGS.
06:22:13 THE PLANS DON'T SHOW ANY BIKE RACKS IN BUILDING 6.
06:22:16 FINALLY, THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT THIS
06:22:19 OVERALL INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, AGAIN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3 TO
06:22:23 6%, JUST OVERALL TRAFFIC ON WESTSHORE SOUTH OF KENNEDY,
06:22:26 DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE OPPOSITE
06:22:29 END OF WESTSHORE THAT ARE ALSO COMING FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
06:22:33 SO WITH THAT SAID, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
06:22:36 THANK YOU.
06:22:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:22:37 IS THAT THE ONLY LIVE SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE THAT'S
06:22:40 REGISTERED?
06:22:42 >> YES, SIR.
06:22:43 THAT IS IT.
06:22:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA
06:22:48 CONVENTION CENTER THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
06:22:51 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.
06:22:55 THERE'S NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
06:22:57 THANK YOU.
06:22:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
06:22:59 COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
06:23:00 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, BEFORE WE GO TO REBUTTAL FOR THE
06:23:04 APPLICANT.
06:23:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE HEARING HIM TALK ABOUT THE 40%
06:23:13 INCREASE, AND THE LOCAL SCHOOLS.
06:23:17 HAS THE PETITIONER LOOKED INTO THAT, OR HAD ANY FEEDBACK
06:23:20 FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN REFERENCE TO WHAT THE
06:23:22 GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT?
06:23:24 HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED?
06:23:26 >> KAMI: IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO TAKE THAT NOW?
06:23:35 THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY IS EVALUATED AT THE TIME OF YOUR
06:23:38 SITE PLAN APPROVAL OR YOUR PLAT APPROVAL.
06:23:41 SO IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE AT ZONING TO DENY A REZONING
06:23:45 BECAUSE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IN
06:23:49 THIS CERTAIN SNAPSHOT OF TIME WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE
06:23:51 CAPACITY.
06:23:52 AND SO AS RANDY TESTIFIED EARLIER, IT'S LIKELY THIS WILL
06:23:57 COME IN PHASES.
06:23:57 AND IF THE PROJECT CANNOT SATISFY CONCURRENT SCHOOL
06:24:00 CONCURRENCY AT THE TIME IT'S PERMITTED OR IT GOES IN FOR
06:24:03 PERMITTING AT SITE PLAN, THE SITE PLAN WON'T BE APPROVED
06:24:06 AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PROCEED.
06:24:08 SO THE OVERCAPACITY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN DEALT
06:24:11 WITH PROPORTIONATE SHARE MITIGATION AGREEMENT.
06:24:14 THOSE ARE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT AT THE TIME OF
06:24:18 SITE PERMITTING, THERE IS NOT ADEQUATE SCHOOL CAPACITY
06:24:22 THAT THEY CAN ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL
06:24:25 BOARD TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PAYMENT OF FEES UP FRONT TO
06:24:28 MAKE THAT CAPACITY TO BECOME AVAILABLE.
06:24:35 NOW RANDY, IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THE TRANSPORTATION, AND GO
06:24:38 INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE DRI, THE DRI, THE FACT
06:24:42 THAT THESE USES ARE ALREADY APPROVED AS FAR AS THE DRIs
06:24:45 AND WHAT THE DRI PROCESS INVOLVES.
06:24:47 >> RANDY COEN: AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS PROJECT IS
06:24:52 PART OF THE WESTSHORE AREA DRI, SO TRANSPORTATION HAS
06:24:57 BEEN DEALT WITH NUMEROUS TIMES THROUGH THE DRI ITSELF AND
06:25:00 ASSESS IMPACTS ON THINGS LIKE WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO THE
06:25:02 SOUTH OF KENNEDY.
06:25:04 WHAT I WOULD SAY AS WELL, I'M SURE THE GENTLEMAN HAS DONE
06:25:08 A GREAT JOB OF GOING THROUGH 400 PAGES OF TRANSPORTATION
06:25:12 ANALYSIS.
06:25:14 WHAT I SUSPECT HE IS ACTUALLY QUOTING IS AS WE DID THIS
06:25:18 ANALYSIS, WE DID AN EXISTING CONDITION THAT INCLUDED THE
06:25:21 EXISTING MALL AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE MALL.
06:25:33 [NO ENCODER]
06:26:04 >> I AM VERY SORRY.
06:26:05 I WAS MUTED AND DIDN'T REALIZE IT.
06:26:07 WOULD BE THE DRI ADDRESSED IS ALL THE REGIONAL IMPACTS OF
06:26:11 THIS PROJECT.
06:26:12 ESPECIALLY THOSE OF WESTSHORE BOULEVARD SOUTH OF THE
06:26:14 SITE.
06:26:16 FOR OUR REZONING TRAFFIC STUDY, WE WERE REQUIRED TO USE
06:26:18 ALL PROJECTS, INCLUDING ALL PROJECTS APPROVED BUT NOT YET
06:26:23 BUILT AT THE TIME. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, PUBLIX
06:26:24 WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAD NOT BEEN BUILT.
06:26:26 WE INCLUDED THAT IN THE ANALYSIS AS WELL.
06:26:31 A PART OF THIS PROJECT ANALYSIS BECAUSE WE HAD AN
06:26:33 EXISTING MALL THAT WAS SO MUCH OF EXISTING TRAFFIC IS WE
06:26:36 REMOVED THE MALL TRAFFIC, AND SO OUR FUTURE SHOWS BEING
06:26:42 TOTAL TRAFFIC OF THE EXISTING MALL, PLUS THE PROPOSED
06:26:44 DEVELOPMENT.
06:26:45 SO WHILE THE GENTLEMAN IS SPEAKING, I THINK DID A PRETTY
06:26:51 GOOD JOB OF READING 3 OR 400 PAGES, I SUSPECT THE NUMBERS
06:26:56 QUOTED ARE GREATLY EXAGGERATED BECAUSE THEY INCLUDE NOT
06:26:59 ONLY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO ALL OF THE TRAFFIC
06:27:02 EVER ASSOCIATED WITH WESTSHORE PLAZA ITSELF.
06:27:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:27:07 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
06:27:09 >> CORBETT: IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE WE HADN'T HEARD FROM
06:27:16 THE GENTLEMAN AHEAD OF TIME OR WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
06:27:18 ADD SO CLARIFICATION.
06:27:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:27:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS EARLIER.
06:27:28 FORGIVE ME IF YOU DIDN'T.
06:27:29 BUT THAT D.O.T. WAS PLANNING TO OPEN RIO STREET, AND HOW
06:27:36 MUCH TRAFFIC DO YOU THINK THAT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM
06:27:39 WESTSHORE THAT COULD RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC
06:27:43 PROBLEMS?
06:27:44 >> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.
06:27:46 I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE INTERSTATE PROGRAM ON BEHALF
06:27:48 OF WESTSHORE ALLIANCE, STREETS PROJECT THAT WAS DEPLETED
06:27:52 BY THE CITY OF TAMPA, REMODELING THAT WAS DONE ON THE
06:27:56 COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT, SHOWED THAT THE TRAFFIC ON
06:27:58 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD COULD REDUCE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 20%
06:28:02 AS A RESULT OF THE RIO INTERCHANGE BEING CONNECTED TO THE
06:28:06 INTERSTATE ITSELF, AND WOULD HAVE ABOUT 50% LESS, OR 5 TO
06:28:11 10% REDUCTION ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN FRONT OF THE SITE
06:28:13 AS WELL.
06:28:15 SO THAT PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENT OF THE RIO INTERCHANGE IS
06:28:18 PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, AND WESTSHORE
06:28:22 THAT CHANGES TRAFFIC ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND WESTSHORE
06:28:24 BOULEVARD.
06:28:25 WE ARE TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL IN OUR ANALYSIS
06:28:28 AS INSTRUCTED BY THE CITY DURING THE METHODOLOGY PROCESS
06:28:32 FOR TRAFFIC STUDY.
06:28:33 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
06:28:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:28:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:28:38 MR. COEN, IT'S RATHER EYE OPENING WHAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM
06:28:44 BEACH PARK TALKED ABOUT 45% THAN CREASE IN CERTAIN PEAK
06:28:52 HOURS OR THAT SORT OF THING.
06:28:56 AND I HAVEN'T HAD THE BENEFIT OF THE TRAFFIC, I GUESS
06:29:01 IT'S PROBABLY BEEN PROVIDED AS AN EXHIBIT.
06:29:07 IS THAT TRUE?
06:29:08 >> I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN THAT.
06:29:13 I BELIEVE HE WAS QUOTING THE, IF YOU WILL, NET ENTIRE
06:29:16 MALL TRAFFIC.
06:29:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR RESPONSE WAS,
06:29:22 BUT MY QUESTION IS, IF THAT'S NOT ACCURATE, THEN WHAT IS
06:29:25 THE INCREASE?
06:29:27 WHAT IS THE INCREASED TRAFFIC IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA ALONG
06:29:32 KENNEDY AND THE IMMEDIATE ALONG WESTSHORE?
06:29:37 >> I HAVE TO PULL OUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
06:29:39 I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT.
06:29:40 I THINK THE NUMBERS ACTUALLY WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO THE
06:29:43 NORTH OF KENNEDY WILL INCREASE ABOUT 20%, THE NUMBER
06:29:47 THAT'S REDUCED BY RIO, KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS ABOUT 10 TO
06:29:51 15%.
06:29:52 I CAN TELL YOU THAT WESTSHORE SOUTH OF KENNEDY HAS
06:29:55 SUBSTANTIALLY LESS TRAFFIC THAN WAS INDICATED.
06:29:58 I HAPPEN TO LIVE ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD JUST SOUTH OF
06:30:01 KENNEDY, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, THERE IS NOT A 20 TO 40%
06:30:06 INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AS A RESULT OF
06:30:09 THIS PARTICULAR APPROVAL, OR SHOWN TO BE THAT IN THE
06:30:12 TRAFFIC STUDY.
06:30:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE ONE OF THESE DAYS WE WILL THREE
06:30:18 LANE ALL OF WESTSHORE.
06:30:20 >> WE HAVE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
06:30:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:30:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
06:30:26 HAVE YOU HAD ENOUGH REBUTTAL, APPLICANT?
06:30:28 >> CORBETT: YES, I THINK WE HAVE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED
06:30:33 BOTH ISSUES RAISED BY COUNCIL AND BY THE GENTLEMAN IN
06:30:36 TERMS OF CONCURRENCY AND TRANSPORTATION.
06:30:38 I APPRECIATE HIS EFFORT AND HIS INVOLVEMENT AND BEING
06:30:43 INVOLVED IN THE ASSOCIATION, AND TO REPRESENT PEOPLE AND
06:30:46 TAKE YOUR TIME TO SPEAK TO CITY COUNCIL.
06:30:48 WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.
06:30:49 BUT HE PROBABLY MISREAD THE TRAFFIC STUDY, AND AGAIN
06:30:55 SCHOOL CONCURRENCY GETS ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF SITE
06:30:58 ANALYSIS. SO WITH THAT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
06:31:00 APPROVAL.
06:31:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:31:01 AND BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE, I AM GOING TO
06:31:05 WRAP UP WITH A FEW COMMENTS.
06:31:07 WESTSHORE PLAZA HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1967.
06:31:10 AND IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A
06:31:14 DEAD MALL OR DEAD PROPERTY, BUT WE HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT
06:31:17 CHANGES.
06:31:19 I THINK WHEN INTERNATIONAL PLAZA WAS BUILT YOU HAD
06:31:23 DILLARD'S MOVE OVER THERE, ONE OF THE ANCHOR STORES.
06:31:25 THEN YOU HAD SEARS.
06:31:27 SEARS HAS HAD SOME FINANCIAL STRUGGLES.
06:31:30 THAT LOCATION HAS CLOSED.
06:31:31 20 YEARS AGO YOU SAW A MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE MALL IN
06:31:35 THE MOVIE THEATER AND THE RESTAURANTS.
06:31:39 AND TO KEEP THAT MALL UP TO DATE.
06:31:41 BEING THAT IT'S 53 YEARS OLD, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LOOK
06:31:45 AT THE MALL NOW.
06:31:46 IT'S NOTE AS BUSY AS IT WAS AT PEAK TIMES.
06:31:49 SO LET'S CONSIDER HOW BUSY IT USED TO BE WHEN THE ANCHOR
06:31:53 STORIES WERE ALL FILLED, WHEN THE VACANCIES WERE MORE
06:31:56 FILLED, WHEN YOU DIDN'T HAVE SO MUCH COMPETITION LIKE YOU
06:31:59 DO WITH OTHER SHOPPING CENTERS, BEFORE INTERNATIONAL
06:32:02 PLAZA WAS BUILT AND WHATNOT.
06:32:04 SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, AND THE MALL
06:32:07 IS NOT SERVING RIGHT NOW AT ITS FULL CAPACITY AS IT WAS.
06:32:13 IT'S NOT SERVING AT THE CAPACITY THAT IT WAS WHEN IT WAS
06:32:15 AT ITS PEAK.
06:32:17 SO IT WILL BASICALLY TAKE US BACK TO POSSIBLY WHAT IT
06:32:19 USED TO BE TRAFFICWISE, AND POPULATIONWISE, PEOPLE ON AND
06:32:25 OFF THE PROPERTY.
06:32:26 HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ASKED
06:32:29 PLENTY OF DETAILS DETAILED QUESTIONS.
06:32:30 THE APPLICANT ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.
06:32:34 WE HAVE SEEN WAIVERS AND WHATNOT.
06:32:37 AND THE JUSTIFICATION BEHIND THEM.
06:32:39 SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL STOP.
06:32:41 CAN I GET -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
06:32:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO OFFER TO READ THE
06:32:46 ORDINANCE.
06:32:46 >>> CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
06:32:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
06:32:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:32:54 ANY OBJECTION?
06:32:55 HEARING NO OBJECTION, WITHOUT -- BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT,
06:32:59 THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
06:33:00 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE
06:33:02 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED?
06:33:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL, AND I WILL PREFACE MY READING
06:33:09 WITH SOME SIMILAR COMMENTS.
06:33:11 WE HAVE ALL NOTICED WITH SADNESS, YOU KNOW, THAT MALLS
06:33:18 ALL ACROSS THE AREA AND ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
06:33:21 HURTING, AND I AM ACTUALLY VERY EXCITED THAT IN MALL AND
06:33:27 THIS PROPERTY IS BEING REBUILT, WITH A VERY EXCITING
06:33:31 DESIGN, AND IN A TRUE MIXED USE FASHION.
06:33:35 IT KIND OF REMIND ME OF THE MIDTOWN PROJECT, BUT PROBABLY
06:33:40 EVEN BIGGER.
06:33:42 IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
06:33:44 SO ANYWAY, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
06:33:48 LIKE SOMEBODY POINTED OUT, MR. COEN, AS I AM DATING
06:33:52 MYSELF, I GUESS I WAS NINE OR TEN YEARS OLD WHEN THEY
06:33:55 OPENED IT UP, AND NOW HOPEFULLY I WILL LIVE TO SEE THE
06:33:59 REBUILDING OF THIS PROJECT.
06:34:00 SO I WILL MOVE WITH REGARD TO REZ 20-23, I WILL MOVE THE
06:34:06 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE
06:34:09 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 250, 298 AND
06:34:13 347 WESTSHORE PLAZA, 4901 AND 4915 WEST KENNEDY
06:34:18 BOULEVARD, 525 NORTH OCCIDENT STREET, 4813 NORTH B STREET
06:34:26 AND 100, 204, 253 AND 440 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IN
06:34:32 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
06:34:34 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
06:34:37 CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL CG USES
06:34:41 EXCLUDING OUTSIDE STORAGE AND DISPLAY, TO PD, PLANNED
06:34:46 DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS,
06:34:49 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, HOTEL,
06:34:52 RESTAURANT, COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITY, VEHICLE
06:34:56 REPAIR, MINOR AND MAJOR, BAR OR LOUNGE, COLLEGE, SCHOOL,
06:35:01 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:35:03 AND I WILL SAY THAT I WILL MISS THE SEASONS 52 BECAUSE
06:35:07 THAT'S A NICE RESTAURANT, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY WILL REBUILD
06:35:10 ON THE PROPERTY.
06:35:10 THANK YOU.
06:35:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ADD TO THAT?
06:35:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:35:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REZ 20-23, MEETS THE PLANNING
06:35:24 COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDATION, IS CONSISTENT, AND THAT
06:35:27 THE WAIVERS GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:35:34 PLAN AND PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE PROPOSED ZONING
06:35:37 DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPARABLE
06:35:40 AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USE, IS CONSISTENT
06:35:43 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ANTICIPATED IN THE USE PLANNED
06:35:48 DESIGN, AND THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT,
06:35:53 COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE
06:35:55 SURROUNDING AREA.
06:35:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL ACCEPT MR. MIRANDA'S COMMENTS AS
06:36:00 A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION.
06:36:01 THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
06:36:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:36:06 ALSO PLEASE INCLUDE THE REVISION SHEET I PROVIDED BY
06:36:09 STAFF, FOR REVISION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:36:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALSO THE REVISION SHEET.
06:36:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
06:36:16 JUST A REMINDER.
06:36:18 AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR THAT ADDENDUM.
06:36:21 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I ASK THAT COUNCIL HAS IN FRONT OF
06:36:25 THEM WHEN THEY DO MAKE THEIR MOTIONS BECAUSE AS THE LAW
06:36:30 HAS TIGHTENED, THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS, AND ONE OF
06:36:35 THEM IS BOTH ON APPROVALS AND DENIALS, YOU HAVE TO STATE
06:36:38 YOUR BASIS FOR YOUR DECISION.
06:36:39 SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF
06:36:43 THAT, REMEMBER THAT, HAVE THAT LANGUAGE ACCESSIBLE TO
06:36:45 YOU.
06:36:45 SO AGAIN I THANK MR. MIRANDA.
06:36:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, BEFORE WE VOTE, WE ALSO
06:36:50 HAVE THE WAIVERS, WITH SECTION 27-139.4, THE DESIGN OF
06:36:55 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND THEREFORE IS IN
06:36:58 NEED OF WAIVERS, A AND B, AND REQUESTED WAIVERS WILL NOT
06:37:03 SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF
06:37:05 OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY MAY BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
06:37:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:37:09 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. COUNCILMAN
06:37:13 MIRANDA, YOU HAVE THE SECOND?
06:37:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
06:37:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE,
06:37:17 PLEASE.
06:37:17 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
06:37:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:37:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:37:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:37:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:37:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:37:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
06:37:36 >>LUIS VIERA: (NO RESPONSE)
06:37:47 >> MOTION PASSES WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
06:37:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:37:57 NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:38:10 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN.
06:38:13 DO WE HAVE EVERYBODY UP ON THE SCREEN?
06:38:16 >> YES, I DO.
06:38:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A PETITIONER ON THIS?
06:38:27 >> YES.
06:38:28 I HAVE MR. FRED HENRY, AND MR. ROBLES HERE.
06:38:33 THEY JUST NEED TO UNMUTE THEMSELVES AND TURN ON THEIR
06:38:37 CAMERA.
06:38:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE THEIR CAMERA
06:38:41 COVERED.
06:38:42 CAN YOU UNCOVER YOUR CAMERA OR TURN IT ON?
06:38:45 WE HAVE TO SEE YOUR FACE.
06:38:47 THE SAME GOES WITH MR. HENRY IF HE'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING
06:38:50 AND TESTIFYING.
06:39:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROBLES?
06:39:04 THERE YOU ARE.
06:39:05 OKAY.
06:39:17 WE SCANT SEE YOUR FACE.
06:39:19 A LITTLE MORE.
06:39:19 THERE WE GO.
06:39:22 AND IF YOU ARE UNMUTED PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
06:39:25 IS MR. HENRY GOING TO BE JOINING YOU?
06:39:28 >> YES.
06:39:29 HE'S IN THE BACKGROUND.
06:39:30 HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ON CAMERA.
06:39:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:39:34 RAISE YOUR HAND.
06:39:35 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN EVERYBODY.
06:39:40 MR. ROBLES AND EVERYBODY.
06:39:41 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
06:39:44 >> I DO.
06:39:46 >> AND DIDN'T RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:39:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE LIVE SPEAKERS REGISTERED
06:39:52 AS WELL?
06:39:54 >>THE CLERK: YES.
06:39:55 TWO REGISTERED.
06:39:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WE GET THERE, WE GET THERE.
06:40:00 YOU MAY BEGIN.
06:40:00 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 6 IS REZ 20-69, A REZONING
06:40:05 REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 210 NORTH MacDILL
06:40:09 AVENUE FROM RS-50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MODEL DWELLING
06:40:13 UNIT AND DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
06:40:17 I TURN IT OVER TO DAVID AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:40:20 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:40:22 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
06:40:25 WE MOVE INTO THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
06:40:28 NEXT CASE.
06:40:29 IT IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE OAKFORD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:40:35 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS LOCATED ABOUT 600 FEET TO THE
06:40:40 SOUTH ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD WHICH IS A DESIGNATED
06:40:43 TRANSIT EM TAMPA SUCCESS CORRIDOR.
06:40:48 IT IS WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] AND
06:40:54 VILLA BROTHERS PARK WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 3,200 FEET TO
06:40:57 THE NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:41:04 HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:41:06 YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE, RIGHT ON
06:41:09 MacDILL AVENUE.
06:41:11 JUST NORTH OF NORTH A STREET.
06:41:15 THE PATTERN BASICALLY ABOVE NORTH A IS PREDOMINANTLY
06:41:19 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
06:41:21 SOUTH OF NORTH A IS COMMERCIAL CENTERED ALONG KENNEDY
06:41:26 BOULEVARD.
06:41:29 THIS IS THE FOX 13 STUDIOS HERE TO THE LEFT.
06:41:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO
06:41:35 INTERRUPT FOR A MINUTE IF I MAY, PLEASE.
06:41:38 MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA
06:41:41 WAS LEFT OUT OF HIS COMPUTER.
06:41:46 HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF LOGGING IN.
06:41:48 HE'S LISTENING TO THE MEETING BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE
06:41:51 HAS VIDEO ACCESS.
06:41:52 AND IF HE'S ABLE TO -- IF STAFF IS ABLE TO ASSIST HIM
06:41:58 GETTING UP AND RUNNING THAT WOULD BE GREAT BUT I WANTED
06:42:00 TO LET NOW THAT HE'S NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO BE
06:42:05 ON THE SCREEN, ALTHOUGH HE IS LISTENING, AND WE'LL SEE
06:42:08 HOW SOON HE'S ABLE TO GET BACK.
06:42:10 THANK YOU.
06:42:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:42:11 ALL RIGHT.
06:42:13 CONTINUE, SIR.
06:42:15 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:42:16 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:42:18 YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THE PROPERTIES
06:42:20 AROUND IT IN THAT TAN COLOR, THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE
06:42:25 LAND USE CATEGORY.
06:42:26 IF YOU MOVE SOUTH DOWN MacDILL TOWARD NORTH A, TOWARD
06:42:31 KENNEDY AND NORTH A, THIS PINK COLOR IS ACTUALLY THE
06:42:39 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, WHILE THE BROWN AREA ARE THE
06:42:43 RESIDENTIAL 20.
06:42:45 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FURTHER DOWN MacDILL
06:42:50 AVENUE.
06:42:51 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM THE
06:42:53 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 ZONING DISTRICT TO BE A
06:42:57 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE FOLLOWING TWO
06:43:00 DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS, ONE OPTION IS TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
06:43:04 DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHILE THE SECOND OPTION IS
06:43:08 ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL MODEL HOME WITH A
06:43:13 SALES OFFICE.
06:43:15 THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED OPTION DOES PROVIDE FOR THE
06:43:19 DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
06:43:22 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, FOR THE TWO UNITS, IF APPROVED, WILL
06:43:28 ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA THAT
06:43:32 IS PLANNED FOR TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
06:43:34 SO THE SUBJECT SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR A MAXIMUM OF
06:43:38 THREE DWELLING UNITS.
06:43:39 THE EXISTING AVERAGE DENSITY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPED
06:43:43 LOTS ALONG THIS PORTION OF NORTH MacDILL AVENUE
06:43:45 BETWEEN WEST NORTH A STREET AND WEST NORTH B STREET
06:43:50 EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 5.84 UNITS
06:43:54 PER ACRE.
06:43:55 THE PROPOSED REZONEING WOULD ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF THOSE
06:43:57 TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING UNITS ON THE SUBJECT
06:44:01 SITE AND OVERALL DENSITY OF 6.77 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
06:44:06 THE PROPOSAL OF TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL
06:44:09 UNITS IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR
06:44:14 THAT SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS THREE.
06:44:16 UNDER THE SECOND OPTION, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A
06:44:20 2,980 SQUARE FEET MODEL HOME WITH OFFICE USE.
06:44:26 THE CITY CLASSIFIES THIS TYPE OF MODEL HOME AS A
06:44:30 COMMERCIAL USE.
06:44:30 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION,
06:44:35 ANY PROPOSED NEW COMMERCIAL USE IS TO COMPLY WITH THE
06:44:39 ADOPTED COMMERCIAL LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
06:44:42 THE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONAL CRITERIA RESTRICTS NEW
06:44:45 COMMERCIAL USES TO BLOCK FACES THAT CONTAIN GREATER THAN
06:44:50 50% OF THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL ZONING SO IT'S LOOKING AT
06:44:55 THIS BLOCK RIGHT HERE BETWEEN NORTH B AND NORTH A.
06:44:59 EXISTING NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING IS PRESENT WITHIN THE
06:45:02 BLOCK, ON THIS SIDE OF THE BLOCK RIGHT HERE, BUT IT ONLY
06:45:09 CONSISTS OF ROUGHLY 25% OF THE ENTIRE BLOCK.
06:45:13 THE PROPOSAL IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL
06:45:16 LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
06:45:18 THE GRANTING OF THIS ZONING HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A
06:45:22 TIPPING POINT FOR THIS BLOCK.
06:45:27 THE INCREASE WOULD BRING THE BLOCK TO A 50%
06:45:32 NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING FOR THAT BLOCK THUS ALTERING THE
06:45:40 APPLICABILITY OF THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE
06:45:42 REMAINING TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS, THE ONE TO THE SOUTH OF
06:45:45 THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE ONE TO THE NORTH.
06:45:48 WITH THIS CHANGE FOR THIS ZONING, THESE TWO PARCELS TO
06:45:52 THE NORTH AND SOUTH WOULD NOW MEET COMMERCIAL LOCATIONAL
06:45:58 CRITERIA IN THE FUTURE.
06:46:04 THOUGH MOW HE WILL HOMES CAN BE TEMPORARY USES, THERE IS
06:46:07 NO WAY TO ENSURE THAT THIS PARCEL WOULD TRANSITION INTO
06:46:11 THE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS SHOWN UNDER THE OPTION ONE.
06:46:17 THE MODEL HOME WOULD CITE THE COMMERCIAL USE BETWEEN TWO
06:46:21 RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PARCELS.
06:46:23 THIS POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THOSE
06:46:26 REMAINING RESIDENTIAL USES.
06:46:28 THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USE DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR THE
06:46:30 TYPICAL SETBACKS THAT YOU WOULD SEE UNDER COMMERCIAL OR
06:46:32 OFFICE USE.
06:46:34 OVERALL, THOUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SUPPORTIVE OF
06:46:37 THE RESIDENTIAL IN-FILL PROPOSED UNDER OPTION 1, THE
06:46:41 INTRODUCTION OF A COMMERCIAL USE THAT DOES NOT MEET THE
06:46:44 ADOPTED COMMERCIAL LOCATIONAL CRITERIA AND IS LOCATED
06:46:48 BETWEEN TWO RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PARCELS WOULD BE
06:46:52 INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:46:54 SO BASED ON THAT CRITERIA, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES
06:46:58 FIND, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, EXCUSE ME, FEIGNED
06:47:03 THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
06:47:05 PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:47:09 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:47:11 I AM AVAILABLE INFORM QUESTIONS.
06:47:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:47:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:47:18 NEXT?
06:47:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN?
06:47:28 CAN YOU SEE IT?
06:47:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, HE CAN.
06:47:30 GO AHEAD.
06:47:31 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS IS REZ 20-69.
06:47:36 AS I STATED THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM RS-50 PLANNED
06:47:40 DEVELOPMENT FOR DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND A
06:47:42 MODEL DWELLING UNIT.
06:47:45 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 210 NORTH MacDILL AVENUE,
06:47:49 AND AS DAVID STATED THERE ARE TWO DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS.
06:47:54 THOSE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS ARE REFLECTED IN THE SITE PLAN
06:47:57 THAT I WILL SHOW NO MOMENT.
06:47:58 THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT OPTION IS TO CONSTRUCT THE MODEM
06:48:04 HOME REQUEST ASSOCIATED PARKING TO THE SOUTH, THEN
06:48:08 OPERATE GIVEN AN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THEN WHEN THAT IS NO
06:48:11 LONGER SERVING AS A MODEL HOME, THEN WHERE THE PARKING
06:48:14 LOT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING WOULD BE A SECOND DETACHED
06:48:20 SINGLE-FAMILY LOT.
06:48:22 AGAIN I WILL SHOW YOU IN MORE DETAIL IN A MOMENT.
06:48:24 EACH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS WITH
06:48:27 CORRESPONDING REQUIREMENTS FOR SETBACKS, HEIGHT, SETBACKS
06:48:32 ON HEIGHT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES PROPOSED WITH BOTH
06:48:36 PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
06:48:37 THERE ARE TWO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
06:48:38 ONE IS TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED USE BUFFER AGAIN FOR OPTION
06:48:43 ONE, WHICH IS THE MODEL HOME OPTION, FROM 15-FOOT BUFFER,
06:48:49 WHICH IS JUST A WALL ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY
06:48:51 LINES, TO 6 FEET WITH A PVC FENCE ALONG THE NORTH AND
06:48:56 3-FOOT BUFFER WITH A 6-FOOT PVC FENCE ALONG THE SOUTH TO
06:49:01 PROVIDE SOME LANDSCAPE BUFFERING FOR THOSE ADJOINING
06:49:04 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
06:49:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARY, CAN YOU MAKE IT BIGGER?
06:49:11 IT'S A LITTLE SMALL ON THE SCREEN.
06:49:12 >>THE CLERK: MARY, YOU NEED TO SWITCH TO THE POWER POINT
06:49:27 OPTION.
06:49:29 ADVANCE IT.
06:49:29 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I AM NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT.
06:49:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FULL SCREEN OPTION?
06:49:35 >> WHEN YOU CHOOSE YOUR SCREEN YOU CHOOSE EITHER ONE OR
06:49:38 TWO.
06:49:39 YOU NEED TO CHOOSE THE OPPOSITE OF THE ONE YOU ARE
06:49:41 SHOWING RIGHT NOW.
06:49:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I DON'T SEE THAT OPTION.
06:50:00 WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SEEING?
06:50:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE LIKE YOUR CONTROL PANEL
06:50:08 VERSION WHERE YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THE SLIDE AND
06:50:11 WHATNOT.
06:50:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOUR NEXT SLIDE.
06:50:15 PERFECT.
06:50:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: OKAY.
06:50:17 THANK YOU.
06:50:19 OKAY.
06:50:20 SO THE SECOND WAIVER IS REDUCTION IN THE BACKUP DRIVE
06:50:24 AISLE FROM 24 FEET TO 21 FEET.
06:50:28 THIS IS, WHEN YOU ZOOM IN, SO THIS WILL BE A MODEL HOME.
06:50:34 IT WILL LOOK LIKE A REGULAR HOUSE WITH A DETACHED GARAGE,
06:50:39 AND THE -- AND THEN TO SERVE THAT MODEL HOME THERE WILL
06:50:44 BE A PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH OF THE
06:50:47 WITH EIGHT PARKING SPACES, INGRESS AND EGRESS COMING OFF
06:50:51 OF MacDILL, AND THEN THE ONE WAY EXIT OUT.
06:50:56 THE WAIVERS THAT I SPOKE ABOUT FOR LANDSCAPING AND
06:51:01 NATURAL RESOURCES IS BECAUSE THIS IS CONSIDERED A
06:51:04 COMMERCIAL USE, IT'S REQUIRED 15 FEET LANDSCAPE BUFFER
06:51:08 WITH A WALL AGAINST THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE
06:51:12 SOUTH.
06:51:13 THEY ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 6 FEET TO THE
06:51:15 NORTH AND 3 FEET TO THE SOUTH AND A PVC FENCE ON THE
06:51:21 WALL.
06:51:22 THE SECOND WAIVER ON THE BACK OF THE REQUIRED PARKING
06:51:24 SPACE TO THE FAR EDGE OF AN ALLEYWAY IS REQUIRED A
06:51:29 24-FOOT BACKUP DISTANCE.
06:51:30 THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 21 FEET.
06:51:37 THIS SHOWS THE PROPOSED PLANTINGS AND LANDSCAPING.
06:51:41 THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE PROVISIONS
06:51:46 AS FAR AS WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE DUA REQUIREMENTS FOR
06:51:51 THE PARKING LOT AS WELL AS THE DWELLING UNITS.
06:51:56 OPTION TWO WOULD BE ONCE THE PROPERTY IS NO LONGER USED
06:52:00 AS A MODEL HOME AND SOLD OFF AS A PRIVATE RESIDENCE THE
06:52:03 PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WHICH I JUST SHOWED YOU WITH THE
06:52:05 PARKING LOT WILL NOW BE CONVERTED TO A SECOND LOT TO BE
06:52:09 DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
06:52:12 THESE ARE BUILDING ELEVATIONS OF WHAT ARE PROPOSED.
06:52:15 I CAN LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK IN MORE DETAIL TO THAT.
06:52:19 THE SPECIFIC ELEVATIONS.
06:52:21 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
06:52:23 DAVID ALREADY SHOWED THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
06:52:25 IT'S ALL RS-50.
06:52:27 THE LOTS ARE CONFORM WITH THE RS-50 ZONING STANDARD.
06:52:30 THE REASON AND THE CATALYST FOR THE PD IS THE INCLUSION
06:52:34 OF THE MODEL HOME USE.
06:52:37 HERE IS PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH.
06:52:43 TWO FAMILY HOUSES.
06:52:45 TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST ARE ALSO DETACHED AND THE
06:52:48 PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
06:52:52 OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT -- I'M SORRY, THE DEVELOPMENT
06:52:57 REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND THIS INCONSISTENT WITH
06:52:59 THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, DUE TO STAFF
06:53:03 FINDINGS RELATED TO THE BACKUP DISTANCE FOR THE DRIVE
06:53:06 AISLE, REDUCTION WAIVER FROM 24 FEET TO 21 FEET.
06:53:10 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?
06:53:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
06:53:13 TIME FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
06:53:15 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:53:16 YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.
06:53:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE QUESTION REGARDING THE MODEL
06:53:24 HOME.
06:53:27 AND THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF KENNEDY, I WOULDN'T BE ASKING
06:53:30 THE QUESTION.
06:53:30 BUT NORTH OF KENNEDY, THE NORTHERN AREA OF KENNEDY AND
06:53:35 MacDILL IS SINGLE-FAMILY APPLICANTS ALL THE WAY
06:53:42 AROUND.
06:53:43 I AM LOOKING AT THIS MODEL HOME S.THAT CONSIDERED A
06:53:46 RESIDENTIAL MODEL?
06:53:47 IS THAT RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR COMMERCIAL ZONING?
06:53:49 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU ARE
06:53:54 ASKING, SIR.
06:53:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN YOU BUILD A HOME
06:53:57 AND IT'S NOT TO LIVE IN BUT TO HAVE A SHOW PLACE, A
06:54:02 MODEL, TO SHOW WHAT YOU HAVE GOT, DOES THAT FALL UNDER
06:54:09 RESIDENTIAL, OR DOES IT FALL UNDERSTOOD --
06:54:13 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I MEAN THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE A
06:54:15 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
06:54:18 AGAIN, I AM GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT.
06:54:22 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODE, FOR ZONING PURPOSES THE USE
06:54:27 WHEN IT IS A MODEL HOME IS IN EFFECT A COMMERCIAL USE,
06:54:30 BECAUSE THE PUBLIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THE STRUCTURE
06:54:34 REQUIRES PARKING AND HAS MORE OF THE COMMERCIAL IMPACT.
06:54:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
06:54:44 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME?
06:54:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
06:54:48 HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT.
06:54:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:54:55 ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE APPLICANT?
06:55:00 ALL RIGHT.
06:55:01 MR. ROBLES.
06:55:03 >> YES.
06:55:06 I SUBMITTED SOME DRAWINGS THAT I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE
06:55:11 CONTROL OVER, IF I COULD GET THOSE UP ON THE SCREEN.
06:55:19 THERE'S REQUEST SIX PAGES AND I WILL USE THAT AS A
06:55:22 ROADWAY.
06:55:23 >> IF I YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
06:55:28 >> I'M SORRY, IN I NAME IS KEVIN ROBLES.
06:55:30 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
06:55:34 THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 210 NORTH MacDILL AVENUE.
06:55:38 IT IS PROPOSED MODEL DWELLING UNIT FOR THE SHOWCASE OF
06:55:43 HOMES, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, THAT ARE BEING
06:55:47 BUILT IN THE AREA, AS WELL AS PRECONSTRUCTION SALE
06:55:50 OFFICE.
06:55:54 DOMAIN HOMES, THIS IS ACTUALLY A REPLACEMENT FOR MODEL
06:55:59 HOME CENTER THAT WE CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 5701 SOUTH
06:56:05 MACDILL.
06:56:06 SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS SITE AS A NEW SITE FOR A NEW
06:56:14 MODEL HOME COMPLEX.
06:56:16 DOMAIN HOMES IS WOMAN OWNED SMALL BUSINESS.
06:56:20 RESIDENTIAL IN-FILL AND REDEVELOPMENT.
06:56:27 GREENFIELD URBAN SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT.
06:56:30 WE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, MARKET RATE
06:56:34 HOMES. THIS OBVIOUSLY IS IN OUR MARKET RATE.
06:56:38 STATE.
06:56:41 WE BUILD HOUSES -- IN THE COMMUNITY.
06:56:46 CURRENT DISCOVERY CENTER IS LOCATED 5701 SOUTH MACDILL
06:56:49 AVENUE, OPENED IN 2014.
06:56:53 IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IT WILL BE
06:56:56 CLOSING AND SELLING THAT MODEL AS A SINGLE-FAMILY
06:57:00 RESIDENTIAL HOME.
06:57:04 THERE IS ALSO A SMALL AREA WITH SEPARATE OFFICE SPACE.
06:57:08 THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND A NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOME
06:57:11 BUILT IN THAT.
06:57:13 IT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THIS NEW MODEL
06:57:17 HOME COMPLEX.
06:57:18 THERE ARE THREE SIGNS.
06:57:21 FREE-STANDING SIGNS.
06:57:23 THEY ARE NOT ILLUMINATED.
06:57:24 THE MODEL HOME CENTER ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
06:57:28 ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT YOU BUILD A NEW MODEL CENTER
06:57:36 AS THINGS CHANGE, MARKETS CHANGE, SO I THINK COUNCILMAN
06:57:42 MIRANDA, YOU ASKED A QUESTION, THAT'S THE NEWEST LATEST
06:57:47 STYLE OF SINGLE-FAMILY ARCHITECTURE WHEN YOU SEE THAT
06:57:51 POST MODERN HOUSE THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THAT RENDERING.
06:58:00 THE NEW DISCOVERY CENTER WILL COMPLY WITH SECTION
06:58:03 27-282.2 WHICH REGULATES MODEL DWELLING UNITS AND SALES
06:58:08 OFFICE.
06:58:09 THE CODE DOES SPEAK FOR MODEL HOMES.
06:58:11 THAT CODE IS SOMEWHAT TIED TO THE NEW TAMPA AREA AND
06:58:17 ATTACHED IN THE MODEL HOME CENTER TO IT.
06:58:21 SO TRYING TO LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS SUPPLEMENTING,
06:58:29 THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE -- THE SUBDIVISIONS BEGIN TO HAVE
06:58:36 IN THEM.
06:58:37 AND A FOUR BEDROOM MODEL HOME WITH ACCESSORY GARAGE THAT
06:58:41 MARY SPOKE OF.
06:58:45 WE ALSO RUN A DESIGN WHERE THE CUSTOMERS COME AND PICK
06:58:51 ALL THE COLORS AND OPTIONS.
06:58:52 YOU WILL HAVE A BEAUTIFULLY LANDSCAPED PARKING AREA.
06:59:35 YOU'LL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE.
06:59:38 AESTHETICALLY THIS WILL BE VERY MUCH AN ADDED BENEFIT TO
06:59:41 THAT CORRIDOR THERE.
06:59:43 SALES HOURS ARE TYPICAL.
06:59:45 THEY'RE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
06:59:46 SATURDAY 10:00 A.M. TO 6:00 P.M. AND THEN SUNDAY 12:00 TO
06:59:49 6:00.
06:59:50 TYPICALLY HAVE ONE OR TWO SALES PEOPLE IN THE MODEL CENTER
06:59:53 AT ANY ONE TIME.
06:59:55 WE PROPOSE OPENING IT IN 2021 WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S
06:59:59 APPROVAL.
07:00:00 ONCE THE NEW DISCOVERY CENTER IS OPEN, THE CURRENT DISCOVERY
07:00:03 CENTER WILL BE CONVERTED TO A SINGLE -- BACK TO THE SINGLE
07:00:09 FAMILY HOME AND BE SOLD OFF TO A NEW HOME OWNER JUST LIKE IN
07:00:14 THIS PARKING AREA.
07:00:16 A SINGLE FAMILY HOME PERMITTED BUILT AND SOLD.
07:00:21 I WANT TO KIND OF GO TO THE LOCATION CONTACTS.
07:00:24 THE NEW DISCOVERY CENTER SITE ON MACDILL AVENUE TWO BLOCKS
07:00:30 NORTH OF KENNEDY.
07:00:31 MACDILL IS A BUSY FOUR-LANE COLLECTOR ROAD IN THIS LOCATION.
07:00:35 A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND LARGE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WITH A
07:00:38 SMALL PARKING LOT ARE LOCATED JUST TO THE SOUTH.
07:00:41 YOU'LL SEE THE PHOTO OF THOSE TWO BUILDINGS.
07:00:45 THEN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS LOCATED JUST TO THE NORTH.
07:00:52 THERE IS A SMALL BUSINESS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S
07:00:55 SIGNED A SECOND READING WHICH IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS
07:00:59 FROM THIS SITE.
07:01:01 UNDER THE TAMPA PROPERTY INCIDENT PLAN, THE LOCATIONAL
07:01:05 CRITERIA IS PROPOSED AND REPRESENTS APPROPRIATE INFILL PER
07:01:13 THE -- OH, I'M SORRY.
07:01:16 CAN YOU GUYS SWITCH TO THE NEXT SLIDE?
07:01:19 SLIDE NUMBER 5.
07:01:21 THERE WE GO.
07:01:22 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTS APPROPRIATE INFILL FOR
07:01:26 THE FUTURE LAND USE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
07:01:29 MODEL DWELLING WITH THE SALES OFFICE IS COMMONLY USED IN
07:01:32 LARGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
07:01:34 TYPICALLY LOCATED IN A SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
07:01:38 NON-RESIDENTIAL USE IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF THIS
07:01:41 SUBJECT SITE.
07:01:43 MODEL HOMES HAVE A NATURAL LIFE SPAN OF ABOUT SEVEN YEARS
07:01:48 DUE TO UPDATING THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, IMPROVING THE
07:01:52 METHODOLOGIES AND TECHNOLOGIES AND MARKET DEMANDS AND
07:01:55 CUSTOMER PREFERENCES.
07:01:56 SO ACTUALLY THE MODEL CENTER NATURALLY AGES ITSELF OUT.
07:02:01 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS MODEL CENTER WILL BE REVERTED
07:02:05 BACK TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME.
07:02:08 MODEL HOMES PRODUCE LOW LEVELS OF TRAFFIC.
07:02:11 TYPICALLY WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 30 VISITORS A WEEK IN
07:02:18 A SEVEN-DAY PERIOD.
07:02:19 MODEL HOMES TYPICALLY ARE DONE BY APPOINTMENT AS FAR AS
07:02:25 SHOWING OF THE MODEL HOMES AND MODEL HOMES ARE SINGLE-FAMILY
07:02:29 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
07:02:31 THE WAIVER -- WE'RE LOOKING FOR A REDUCTION OF THE
07:02:35 LANDSCAPED AREA WITH A PAYMENT TO THE DISTRICT.
07:02:39 A USE OF SIX-FOOT VINYL PBC FENCE IN LIEU OF A MASONRY WALL.
07:02:46 PBC FENCE IS MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE SINGLE-FAMILY
07:02:50 DEVELOPMENT THAT A -- THAT MASONRY WALL, IT PROVIDES THE
07:02:54 SAME OPAQUE FINISH AS A WALL DOES AND IT'S LOW MAINTENANCE
07:03:00 ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.
07:03:03 FOR BOTH ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE
07:03:05 FENCE.
07:03:07 ADDITIONALLY, WE ELIMINATED WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF
07:03:12 THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ACCESSORY BUILDING SO AS TO NOT
07:03:15 INTRUDE TO HOME ON THE NORTH.
07:03:19 REDUCTION OF A SETBACK FROM 24 TO 21 FEET IS IN THE ALLEY,
07:03:24 NOT ON MACDILL AVENUE.
07:03:27 ONLY ONE CAR GARAGE IS IN USE WHILE THE MODEL HOME CENTER IS
07:03:30 IN OPERATION.
07:03:32 ONCE CONVERTED TO A RESIDENCE THREE-CAR GARAGE WILL ACCESS
07:03:37 THE ALLEY.
07:03:39 WE'LL MAKE ALL THE CORRECTIONS BETWEEN THE FIRST READING AND
07:03:42 THE SECOND READING.
07:03:48 AND THEY ARE REQUESTING YOU RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU
07:03:51 APPROVE US FOR THIS EXCITING INNOVATIVE AND COMPATIBLE USE.
07:03:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
07:03:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
07:04:00 MR. ROBLES, MY ONLY CONCERN IS IN REGARD TO PARKING AND I DO
07:04:10 AGREE WITH YOU THAT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS IN TERMS OF YOUR
07:04:16 CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE
07:04:23 HERE, ONE THERE, THAT SORT OF THING.
07:04:27 BUT THERE ARE TIMES DOWN AT YOUR SOUTH MACDILL CURRENT
07:04:34 LOCATION WHERE YOU WOULD BE NICE ENOUGH TO INVITE MANY
07:04:41 REALTORS TO COME DOWN FOR A PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING LIKE
07:04:46 THAT.
07:04:48 AND AS A MATTER OF DISCLOSURE, I ATTENDED PROBABLY ONE OR
07:04:52 TWO SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
07:04:55 THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF PARKING ISSUES.
07:05:00 I KNOW YOU -- YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALK ABOUT BECAUSE YOU'VE
07:05:04 BEEN THERE.
07:05:05 >> SURE.
07:05:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER FACILITY OVER
07:05:09 BY YBOR CITY.
07:05:10 IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR.
07:05:14 FOR A DIFFERENT PRODUCT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW,
07:05:17 WHAT IS YOUR CONTINGENCY PLAN FOR THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS OR
07:05:24 ARE YOU NOT GOING TO BE HOLDING THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS AT THIS
07:05:27 FACILITY?
07:05:28 >> WELL, TYPICALLY IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION.
07:05:32 WHEN YOU HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME, WHICH YOU'RE
07:05:36 USING TO HOST EVENTS IN, THE CAPACITY IS REALLY LIMITED BY
07:05:40 THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE THAT IT IS, AND IF WE HAVE AN OVERFLOW
07:05:45 EVENT, TYPICALLY WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL -- WE HAVE GONE AS
07:05:51 FAR AS TO FIND A PROPER LOCATE AND VALET THOSE REALTORS IN
07:05:54 AND KIND OF TURN THAT PARKING ISSUE INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE
07:05:58 MORE SPECIAL WHERE WE ASK THEM TO PARK AT AN ALTERNATIVE
07:06:03 LOCATION AND WE'LL BUS THEM IN IN A, YOU KNOW, A BUS-TYPE
07:06:08 LIMOUSINE.
07:06:09 I DON'T SEE THAT MUCH -- AS A HUGE PROBLEM.
07:06:13 WE HAVE NINE SPACES ON SITE.
07:06:18 WE'LL HAVE FOUR SPACES ON THE EXISTING SITE UNDER THE MODEL
07:06:21 HOME IN THE -- AS YOU READ THROUGH THE CODE.
07:06:25 THE REQUIREMENT IS ONLY TEN.
07:06:27 NOW I REALIZE WE'RE CONVERTING THIS OVER INTO A COMMERCIAL
07:06:30 COMPONENT BUT WE ASKED FOR NO PARKING WAIVER, AND I DON'T
07:06:34 SEE, JOHN, AT MAYBE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IT MAY VERY WELL
07:06:41 BE A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR.
07:06:43 USUALLY IT'S FOR 45 MINUTES OR LESS AND USUALLY SOME
07:06:48 PRESENTATIONAL PIECE WE HAVE GOING ON.
07:06:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
07:06:51 I MEAN, REALISTICALLY I GUESS YOU'RE NOT TOO FAR FROM THE
07:06:57 SIDE STREET.
07:07:01 I'M NOT SURE WHICH SIDE STREET THAT IS.
07:07:03 NORTH B OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
07:07:05 >> CLOSER TO NORTH B THAN NORTH A.
07:07:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
07:07:09 I REALISTICALLY I GUESS PEOPLE WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOUR
07:07:13 GUESTS -- I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT THE DAY-TO-DAY TWO OR THREE
07:07:16 OR FIVE PEOPLE BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE 30 OR 40 FOLKS
07:07:20 THERE.
07:07:22 WHICH, YOU KNOW, I THINK DID HAPPEN DOWN THERE AT
07:07:26 MACDILL -- IT WASN'T A PROBLEM DOWN THERE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T
07:07:28 HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEARBY.
07:07:32 I GUESS --
07:07:36 >> WE --
07:07:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE.
07:07:40 >> WE TRY TO PARK WITH THE OFFICE JUST TO THE SOUTH.
07:07:42 THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A GOOD
07:07:45 NEIGHBOR KIND OF POLICY.
07:07:47 THEY COULD MAKE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THOSE FOLKS.
07:07:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OR YOU CAN DO IT UP THERE WITH THE
07:07:53 MEXICAN RESTAURANT.
07:07:56 TYPICALLY I THINK IT'S LUNCH TIME WHEN YOU HAVE THEM.
07:08:00 OKAY.
07:08:01 THANK YOU.
07:08:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:08:04 ANYBODY ELSE?
07:08:04 >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY?
07:08:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:08:09 >> MR. ROBLES, BECAUSE OF YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION, I'M NOT
07:08:13 TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FENCE HEIGHTS.
07:08:16 THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF MORE THAN LIKELY BUSINESS WILL
07:08:21 NOT BE TAKING PLACE AFTER 6:00.
07:08:24 THERE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE A DISTURBANCE TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
07:08:26 MY CONCERN IS WHAT GUARANTEES ARE WE GOING TO HAVE
07:08:30 AT -- TOWARD THE END OF THE LIFE SPAN IT'S NOT TURNED INTO A
07:08:34 MEDICAL FACILITY OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF SMALL BUSINESS AND
07:08:38 WHAT KIND OF GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE AS COUNCIL THAT THAT
07:08:43 PARKING LOT WILL BE TURNED INTO A HOME?
07:08:47 FOR YOUR OPTION B.
07:08:50 >> LOOKS LIKE MARY HAS HER HAND UP.
07:08:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
07:08:54 >> MR. ROBLES, IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT, HE ASKED YOU
07:08:58 DIRECTLY BUT I CAN ANSWER IF YOU'D LIKE.
07:09:00 >> NO, GO AHEAD, MARY.
07:09:01 I THINK I KNOW HOW YOU'LL ANSWER.
07:09:05 >> BECAUSE THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THE PLANNED
07:09:08 DEVELOPMENT ALWAYS LISTS THE ONLY USES THAT ARE ALLOWED.
07:09:11 SO THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THE ONLY USES THAT ARE ALLOWED
07:09:14 IF THIS GETS APPROVED IS A MODEL HOME AND DETACHED
07:09:17 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE, PERIOD.
07:09:19 IF THEY WANT TO AMEND USES TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, IT
07:09:22 HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
07:09:25 >> THANK YOU.
07:09:26 I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
07:09:28 I KNOW THAT THE USE WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED BY COMING BACK
07:09:30 TO US.
07:09:31 WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET IS JUST -- MR. ROBLES JUST ANSWERED
07:09:35 MY QUESTION.
07:09:37 >> WELL, COUNCILMAN CITRO, I WILL ANSWER THAT.
07:09:40 THE ECONOMICS OF BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME,
07:09:44 ITS HIGHEST INVEST USE IS THAT.
07:09:46 THERE IS NO ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN
07:09:51 SELLING IT IN THE MARKETPLACE AS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
07:09:54 SO AS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME.
07:09:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
07:09:59 I'M LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF GUARANTEES.
07:10:01 I UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED IF IT WAS SOLD.
07:10:03 BUT THANK YOU, MR. ROBLES.
07:10:05 I APPRECIATE IT.
07:10:07 >> WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO ARTICULATE THAT CONDITION IN MORE
07:10:12 DETAIL IN THE P.D. IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
07:10:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:10:21 THANK YOU.
07:10:21 ANYBODY ELSE?
07:10:25 >> IF I MAY?
07:10:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:10:27 >> IN FACT, THERE IS A HOME, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOURS OR
07:10:30 SOMEBODY, A DEVELOPER AND I HAVE ANYTHING BUT PRAISE FOR
07:10:37 DOMAIN AND YOURSELF.
07:10:39 THERE IS A HOUSE ON CHERRY AND MACDILL.
07:10:41 THE DESIGN IS SIMILAR.
07:10:42 NOT QUITE AS LARGE BUT ABOUT -- ON THE WEST SIDE OF ST.
07:10:47 JOSEPH SCHOOL.
07:10:51 THE DESIGN IS ALMOST LIKE THIS.
07:10:52 IT'S A REAL NICE LOOKING HOME.
07:10:54 IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN WEST TAMPA.
07:10:57 THAT'S THE FIST ONE I'VE SEEN.
07:11:01 BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT -- (ECHOING) IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY
07:11:08 LOT.
07:11:08 RS-50 WITH A HOME THAT IS UNTIL SOMEBODY WALKS IN IT, IT
07:11:13 BECOMES SOMETHING OTHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
07:11:17 WHAT I'M SAYING, AND I THINK THE CODE HASN'T CHANGED, IF AN
07:11:21 INDIVIDUAL BUYER WAS TO BUY THE HOUSE AND WANTED TO
07:11:24 HAVE -- OR HE OR SHE WANTED TO HAVE A HOME OCCUPATIONAL USE,
07:11:28 THEY COULD SHOW THE HOUSE AS A HOME OCCUPATIONAL USE, ONE OR
07:11:32 TWO PERSONS A WEEK OR SOMETHING.
07:11:33 YOU COULD DO THAT NOW AS A BARBER OR REALTOR.
07:11:37 UNLESS THE CODE HAS CHANGED.
07:11:39 WHAT I'M SAYING IS I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A HOUSE BEING
07:11:42 BUILT IF IT WASN'T AN RS-50 LOT.
07:11:46 ONCE IT'S BUILT IT'S AN RS-50 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
07:11:49 ONCE YOU SHOW IT, IT'S NO LONGER A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
07:11:54 IT BECOMES A COMMERCIAL DWELLING.
07:11:56 THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
07:11:58 I'M NOT A LAWYER.
07:12:04 >> CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.
07:12:06 I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY EITHER.
07:12:09 I THINK YOUR -- MAYBE MARY CAN ANSWER THAT ONE.
07:12:14 I THINK THE HOME OCCUPATION, THE OCCUPANCY OF THE HOME ARE
07:12:21 RESTRICTED BY THE FLOOR AREA BY THE CODE, IS IT NOT?
07:12:26 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THAT'S RIGHT.
07:12:27 >> IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTIONS RIGHT.
07:12:43 >> THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PERSON WHO WALKS IN CAN'T
07:12:46 WALK AROUND THE HOUSE OR USE THE BATHROOM.
07:12:48 THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
07:12:49 I'M NOT A LAWYER OR PLAN TO BE ONE.
07:12:54 >> I ONLY PLAY ONE ON TV.
07:13:04 >> MR. CHAIR?
07:13:05 MR. CHAIR?
07:13:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:13:07 VIERA.
07:13:09 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GOOD.
07:13:10 I APOLOGIZE.
07:13:10 I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS ON
07:13:14 TELEVISION AND LISTENING WHILE STAFF WAS WORKING ON MY
07:13:19 NUMEROUS TECHNOLOGICAL ISSUES.
07:13:22 I WANTED TO THANK STAFF YET AGAIN FOR BAILING ME OUT.
07:13:25 I'M BACK FOR NOW.
07:13:27 THANK YOU.
07:13:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:13:29 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
07:13:35 YOU'RE MUTED.
07:13:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAID I AM A LAWYER AND I'M LOOKING UP
07:13:43 AT THE TOP LEFT CORNER AT MARY MENTIONED ON THE SITE PLAN
07:13:46 AND IT SAYS PROPOSED USE: MODEL DWELLING UNIT, SINGLE-FAMILY
07:13:53 DETACHED AND PRE-CONSTRUCTION SALES OFFICE/DESIGN STUDIO TO
07:13:59 FUTURE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCES.
07:14:03 I'M NOT OVERLY CONCERNED BASED UPON THE LIMITATION THAT'S
07:14:07 STATED ON THE SITE PLAN, I'M NOT CONCERNED BECAUSE IF THERE
07:14:13 WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE PROPOSED, MEDICAL OR WHAT HAVE
07:14:17 YOU, THEY'D COME V TO COME IN FOR A REVISED P.D. SITE PLAN,
07:14:21 RIGHT, MARY?
07:14:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
07:14:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
07:14:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
07:14:28 >> MARY, IF THE BUILDING DOESN'T CHANGE, THE BUILDING STAYS
07:14:32 EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AND JUST A BUSINESS WANTS TO GO
07:14:35 THEREIN.
07:14:36 THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
07:14:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, SIR.
07:14:38 >> YOU'LL STILL HAVE TO COME IN AND -- FOR US AND CHANGE THE
07:14:41 P.D.
07:14:42 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
07:14:43 >> THANK YOU.
07:14:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:14:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ALL THE BUILDINGS HAVE TO REMAIN THE SAME
07:14:47 AND ALL THE USES HAVE TO REMAIN THE SAME AND ANY COMBINATION
07:14:51 THEREOF.
07:14:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:14:54 PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:14:55 MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED?
07:15:01 >> YES, SIR.
07:15:01 WE HAVE ONE PERSON ON THE LINE WHO IS ANDREW AUBREY.
07:15:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:15:06 >> AND THE OTHER PERSON DID NOT LOG ON WHO IS KATHERINE
07:15:12 ECAVERA.
07:15:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:15:15 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
07:15:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANDREW, IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR
07:15:24 RIGHT HAND, THEY'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
07:15:26 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU'LL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
07:15:30 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:15:31 >> I DO.
07:15:32 >> THANK YOU.
07:15:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:15:34 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
07:15:36 >> I'M HERE TO REPRESENT OAKFORD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD
07:15:39 ASSOCIATION.
07:15:39 WE HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS WITH THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
07:15:43 NUMBER ONE IS THAT IT'S BEING FOUND INCONSISTENT BY THE CITY
07:15:46 STAFF.
07:15:48 NUMBER TWO, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BOTH OF THESE LOTS IS
07:15:52 APPROXIMATELY 13,256.
07:15:56 WHEN YOU DIVIDE THAT BY TWO IT'S 6,628.
07:16:00 THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS 4,637.
07:16:07 THAT'S NEARLY 70% OF THE LOT IS GOING TO BE BUILT AND THAT'S
07:16:11 NOT INCLUDING THE POOL, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE LANAI OR
07:16:15 ANY OTHER THING.
07:16:16 WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURES THAT WILL BE BUILT.
07:16:18 THAT'S VERY LARGE AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SIZE, THE
07:16:24 AVERAGE SIZE OF A HOME IS THE SIZE OF THE GARAGE THEY'RE
07:16:27 GOING TO BE BEING BUILT WHICH IS 1600 SQUARE FOOT.
07:16:31 IT'S A VERY, VERY LARGE PROPERTY.
07:16:35 WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING OVERFLOW AS YOU
07:16:38 MENTIONED, ONE OF THE COUNCILMAN MENTIONED BEFORE THERE IS
07:16:41 OFTEN PARTIES HELD AT THESE EVENTS.
07:16:43 WHERE ARE THESE CARS GOING TO PARK?
07:16:45 THEY'LL OVERFLOW INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:16:47 THEY CAN'T PARK ON MACDILL AVENUE.
07:16:49 THEY'LL OVERFLOW AND OVERWHELM OUR ALREADY EXACERBATED
07:16:55 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GETS ALL THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC ALREADY.
07:16:58 ARE THESE GOING TO BE?
07:16:59 IT WILL BE A SAFETY CONCERN AS THE CARS START TO PILE UP ON
07:17:02 THE ROAD, IS THAT -- WHERE ARE THE EMERGENCY SERVICES GOING
07:17:05 TO BE ABLE AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO PASS?
07:17:11 WE BELIEVE THIS WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO MULTI-FAMILY.
07:17:14 AGAIN, WHO NEEDS A 4600 SQUARE FOOT HOME IN WEST TAMPA?
07:17:20 THESE HOMES ARE BETTER, YOU KNOW, IN NEW TAMPA OR BEACH
07:17:25 PARK.
07:17:26 OUR RS-50 LOTS CAN NOT SUPPORT THESE EGREGIOUS SIZES.
07:17:32 AGAIN, WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE WAIVERS OF MAKING THE
07:17:35 PARKING LOTS SMALLER.
07:17:36 I MEAN, HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO BE PULLING OUT OF THE
07:17:38 PARKING LOT?
07:17:39 I MEAN, WHERE IS THE STAFF GOING TO STAY?
07:17:43 I SEE FIVE PARKING SPOTS.
07:17:46 I'M ASSUMING MOST PEOPLE FOR SAFETY CONCERNS WILL HAVE TWO
07:17:49 PEOPLE AT THE FACILITY AT ALL TIMES.
07:17:52 THEY'LL JUST LEAVE THREE PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE?
07:18:01 AGAIN, THE AVERAGE SIZE OF A GARAGE IS 576 SQUARE FEET.
07:18:04 THEY'RE PROPOSING 1600 SQUARE FOOT FOR THREE CAR GARAGE.
07:18:10 AGAIN, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
07:18:12 WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ON HOW IT'S RESIDENTIAL BUT COMMERCIAL
07:18:16 AND IT'S WAIVERS HERE BUT NOT MEETING STANDARDS HERE.
07:18:19 IT'S LIKE THEY WANT THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.
07:18:21 WE'RE VERY -- WE LOVE DOMAIN HOMES.
07:18:24 WE HAVE BEEN ON RECORD MANY TIMES TELLING YOU GUYS IF THEY
07:18:28 TAKE AN RS-50 LOT AND KNOCK THE OLD HOME DOWN AND BUILD A
07:18:32 NEW ONE, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
07:18:33 WE'RE NOT FINE WITH MULTI-FAMILY OR WE HAVE COME MANY TIMES
07:18:37 AND TOLD YOU 85% OF OUR COMMUNITY IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES,
07:18:42 DETACHED, AND MOST OF THEM DO NOT HAVE A 1600 SQUARE FOOT
07:18:47 MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE OR GARAGE.
07:18:50 SO AGAIN, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED AND HOPE YOU GO BACK TO THE
07:18:53 DRAWING TABLE AND CHANGE SOME OF THESE THINGS.
07:18:56 IF WE CAN GET SOME MORE GUARANTEES WE'D BE IN FAVOR OF THIS
07:19:03 PROJECT.
07:19:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:19:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:19:06 ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED?
07:19:09 >> THAT'S IT, CHAIR.
07:19:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT
07:19:12 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
07:19:17 >> THIS IS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
07:19:18 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:19:21 THANK YOU.
07:19:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:19:24 IS THERE ANY REBUTTAL FROM THE APPLICANT, MR. ROBLES?
07:19:29 >> YES.
07:19:30 TO ANSWER OAKFORD PARK'S CONCERNS, A COUPLE OF THEM.
07:19:36 THE HOUSE ITSELF IS 2963 SQUARE FEET.
07:19:42 THAT'S THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE.
07:19:44 IT'S NOT 70% OF THE LAND AREA USED AS A BUILDING.
07:19:49 THERE ARE NINE SPACES ON SITE.
07:19:55 NOT FIVE.
07:19:57 SO THERE IS NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED FOR PARKING, AND ON
07:20:01 THE ONE WAIVER FOR REDUCING THE ALLEY OFF THE GARAGE FROM 24
07:20:11 TO 21, WE CAN SLIDE THE WHOLE PROJECT FORWARD FROM ITS
07:20:17 CURRENT SETBACK, SLIDE IT FORWARD BY THREE FEET AND STILL
07:20:21 WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE BLOCK
07:20:27 FACE OF MACDILL.
07:20:28 I THINK WE CAN SOLVE A COUPLE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT THE
07:20:32 GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP FROM THE OAKFORD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD
07:20:35 ASSOCIATION BY, NUMBER ONE, I'M CLARIFYING SOME OF HIS
07:20:40 CONCERNS AND NUMBER TWO IS WE CAN SLIDE THE ENTIRE COMPLEX
07:20:47 FORWARD BY THREE FEET AND NOT GO FOR A WAIVER ON THE BACK.
07:21:00 FROM THE BACK OUT PARKING.
07:21:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:21:04 ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
07:21:07 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER: YOU'RE MUTED.
07:21:14 I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.
07:21:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
07:21:23 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:21:26 MR. ROBLES, THE -- I WAS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THEY HAVE THE
07:21:33 SAME CONCERNS THAT I ARTICULATED.
07:21:38 I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY DOES THAT BACK BUILDING WHICH YOU
07:21:43 DESCRIBED EVENTUALLY WILL BE A THREE-CAR GARAGE, BUT A
07:21:49 THREE-CAR GARAGE IS PRETTY UNUSUAL FOR -- YOU GUYS DON'T
07:21:51 TYPICALLY DO THREE-CAR GARAGES THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH.
07:21:54 USUALLY IT'S TWO-CAR GARAGES.
07:21:57 WHY DO YOU NEED TO HAVE SUCH A LARGE BUILDING ON THE BACK
07:21:59 SIDE THAT'S MAKING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SO NERVOUS?
07:22:05 IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD CONSIDER MODIFYING?
07:22:09 LET ME FINISH AND -- THEN MY OTHER QUESTION AND I THINK YOU
07:22:14 CAN SOLVE THIS PERHAPS WITH AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION ON YOUR
07:22:19 SITE PLAN.
07:22:21 MAYBE TO LIMIT THESE EVENTS TO, YOU KNOW, X -NUMBER OF
07:22:28 PEOPLE INVITED AND ONLY HAVE THEM ONCE A MONTH OR SOMETHING
07:22:31 LIKE THAT.
07:22:33 SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LISTEN.
07:22:36 IF IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, AND I LIVED THERE AND I
07:22:39 DECIDED I WANTED TO HAVE A PARTY WITH 30 FRIENDS ONCE A
07:22:43 MONTH, THEY OVERFLOWED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOTHING MY
07:22:48 NEIGHBORHOOD COULD DO ABOUT IT.
07:22:50 IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION AND A
07:22:55 SORT OF SEMI-COMMERCIAL USE FOR FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
07:22:58 I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
07:22:59 ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
07:23:04 WE CAN'T MAKE YOU PUT A CONDITION LIKE THAT ON THERE, BUT WE
07:23:08 CAN ASK YOU IF YOU CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, A CONDITION OF
07:23:11 LIMITING 30 INVITED GUESTS AT ANY ONE TIME OR ONCE A MONTH.
07:23:18 WHATEVER YOU THINK IS REASONABLE.
07:23:19 >> YEAH.
07:23:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT.
07:23:25 I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EVENTS PER
07:23:29 YEAR.
07:23:30 I CAN LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EVENTS TO SIX PER YEAR, EVERY
07:23:35 OTHER MONTH.
07:23:36 WE DON'T HOLD AS MANY AS YOU THINK WE DO.
07:23:41 I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO LIMIT IT TO 30 GUESTS.
07:23:46 I'M THRILLED WHEN I CAN GET 20 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, AND IT
07:23:49 TYPICALLY INVOLVES ME THROWING A LOT OF FANCY FOOD AT THEM
07:23:53 TO GET THEM TO SHOW UP FOR THESE EVENTS.
07:23:56 THE EVENTS ARE IN THE DAY -- THE EVENTS ARE TYPICALLY IN THE
07:24:01 DAYTIME HOURS, AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY -- I'M LUCKY TO HOLD
07:24:05 THEM FOR 90 MINUTES.
07:24:09 LASTLY YOU WANT TO CONDITION THAT OVERFLOW PARKING IS
07:24:14 THROUGH A LEGAL VALET OPERATION, WE TYPICALLY DO THAT ANYWAY
07:24:20 BECAUSE IF I HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM THEY DON'T SHOW UP.
07:24:29 I SORT OF HAVE TO ENTICE FOLKS TO COME TO THE EVENT.
07:24:33 I'M AMENABLE TO ANY OF THAT TYPE OF CONTROL.
07:24:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARY THEN CATE WELLS.
07:24:39 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
07:24:40 I DON'T KNOW -- I WAS GOING TO ASK CATE ON THIS.
07:24:44 TYPICALLY IF CITY COUNCIL OR THE APPLICANT PUTS A CONDITION
07:24:48 ON A SITE PLAN FOR P.D. THAT CONDITION HAS TO BE ENFORCED BY
07:24:51 THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
07:24:54 SO I FIND -- I'M HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING HOW WE WOULD
07:25:00 ENFORCE THAT.
07:25:00 THEY COULD MAKE A COMMITMENT BUT THERE IS A LEGAL
07:25:04 DIFFERENCE.
07:25:04 CATE, CAN YOU SPEAK FURTHER TO THAT, PLEASE?
07:25:08 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
07:25:08 I WANT TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT PURSUANT TO SECTION 70.45
07:25:12 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES, ANY CONDITIONS THAT ARE PLACED ON
07:25:16 THE SITE PLAN, THERE MUST BE AN ESSENTIAL NEXUS BETWEEN THE
07:25:24 IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED REZONING AND THE PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT
07:25:28 YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
07:25:30 THIS APPLIES EVEN TO SELF-IMPOSED CONDITIONS.
07:25:33 I THINK YOU HEARD FROM MARY ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITH REGARD
07:25:36 TO ENFORCEMENT.
07:25:39 OF THAT PROPOSED CONDITION.
07:25:40 SO IT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT ANY TIME WHETHER IT'S A CITY
07:25:45 COUNCIL IMPOSED CONDITION OR A SELF-IMPOSED CONDITION, THERE
07:25:48 HAS TO BE A NEXUS BETWEEN THE CONDITION THAT IS BEING ADDED
07:25:53 TO THE SITE PLAN AS IT'S INTENDED TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF
07:25:55 THE PROPOSED REZONING.
07:25:58 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
07:26:00 JUST IN RESPONSE, I AGREE WITH MS. WELLS COMPLETELY.
07:26:04 PARKING -- I POINTED OUT A POTENTIAL PARKING PROBLEM AND IT
07:26:08 WAS CONFIRMED BY THE OAKFORD LEADER.
07:26:14 I THINK MR. ROBLES EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT PARKING ON RARE
07:26:19 OCCASIONS CAN BE AN ISSUE AT THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.
07:26:23 SO I THINK THERE IS -- I THINK PARKING IS AN IMPORTANT
07:26:27 CONSIDERATION AND I THINK THAT'S A DIRECT NEXUS TO THE
07:26:31 CONDITION THAT I WAS SUGGESTING: THE OTHER THING,
07:26:36 MR. ROBLES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ADDRESSED MY -- ADDRESSED
07:26:39 THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN ABOUT THE SIZE OF THAT REAR
07:26:42 STRUCTURE AND IF THERE WAS ANY WAY YOU COULD MODIFY AND MAKE
07:26:45 IT SMALLER.
07:26:46 NOT IN THE IMMEDIATE CONCERN BUT IN THE FUTURE CONCERN.
07:26:57 >> I'M SORRY.
07:26:58 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THE -- THE SIZE IS PREDICATED ON WHEN
07:27:06 WE SET UP THE MODEL HOME, WE HAVE ANCILLARY ACTIVITIES WE DO
07:27:14 SUCH AS A DESIGN ACTIVITY AND THAT SORT OF THING.
07:27:17 IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF ABOUT 400 SQUARE FEET JUST TO SHOW OUR
07:27:21 WARES OFF, IF YOU WILL.
07:27:24 THEN ADDITIONALLY THE OUTDOOR LIFESTYLE IS REALLY DONE AS A
07:27:32 SALES TOOL ASPIRATIONALLY TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT THEIR
07:27:38 POTENTIAL OR RESPECTIVE HOME COULD BE.
07:27:43 SO ALL THOSE ELEMENTS ARE ACTUALLY ESSENTIAL TOOLS ON THE
07:27:48 SALES SIDE OF THE BUSINESS, IF YOU WILL.
07:27:58 THAT'S IT.
07:28:00 THE PEOPLE OCCUPYING -- IT'S SINKS AND CABINETRY VIGNETTES.
07:28:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
07:28:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
07:28:14 THIS EVENING.
07:28:14 I SEE A FEW CONCERNS WITH PARKING, THE SIZE.
07:28:21 MY BIGGEST THING IS, MR. ROBLES, DID YOUR ORGANIZATION TALK
07:28:24 WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN REFERENCE TO THIS RESIDENTIAL
07:28:29 COMMERCIAL TYPE SETTING IN THE BACKYARD?
07:28:33 >> THE FIRST WE HEARD FROM OAKFORD PARK IS TONIGHT.
07:28:39 WE KEEP CLEARLY OPEN LINE S OF COMMUNICATION IN ADDITION TO
07:28:42 OUR REGULAR NOTICING, WE DO SEND OUT A LETTER JUST KIND OF,
07:28:47 YOU KNOW, PARAPHRASING WHAT WE HAVE.
07:28:49 WE OFFERED THEM BOTH CELLULAR CONTACT AND E-MAIL CONTACT
07:28:54 BASED UPON THE VIRUS AND THAT SORT OF THING, WE DON'T
07:28:58 CURRENTLY CONDUCT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
07:29:00 WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR APPROXIMATELY NINE MONTHS OR HOW
07:29:03 LONG THE VIRUS HAS BEEN GOING ALONG.
07:29:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONCERNS FROM
07:29:12 DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS.
07:29:14 WE CAN'T MAKE ANYBODY DO ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD TRY TO
07:29:17 SUGGEST MAYBE WE HAVE A LITTLE COMMUNICATION MAYBE WITH THE
07:29:19 COMMUNITY.
07:29:23 AND HOW WE MIGHT PROCEED TONIGHT OR HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED
07:29:26 TONIGHT.
07:29:26 BUT JUST GIVING YOU A THOUGHT OUT FOR YOU, SIR.
07:29:31 >> CAN I BACK UP SLIGHTLY?
07:29:32 I KNOW THAT WAS A QUESTION.
07:29:34 MARY, YOU RAISED THAT CAN WE MAKE A COMMITMENT VERSUS A
07:29:39 CONDITION.
07:29:39 I THINK MS. WELLS WEIGHED IN ON THAT.
07:29:44 I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO MAKE A COMMITMENT IF THAT GIVES YOU
07:29:48 A LITTLE BIT BETTER COMFORT LEVEL.
07:29:53 THE OTHER THING IS WE'RE OVER ON OUR PARKING BY -- A PARKING
07:29:59 CALCULATIONS GET US TO EIGHT.
07:30:02 WE'RE AT NINE CURRENTLY.
07:30:04 SO WE'RE OVER PARKED IN OUR PARKING SPACES TO BEGIN WITH.
07:30:12 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
07:30:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
07:30:15 GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:30:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
07:30:18 JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE SOURCE OF YOUR
07:30:26 EVIDENCE COMES FROM YOUR EXPERTS, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
07:30:30 STAFF REPORT, YOUR CITY STAFF REPORT, ANY EXPERTS WHO MIGHT
07:30:35 TESTIFY AND ANY NEIGHBORS WHO TESTIFY WITH REGARD TO
07:30:39 PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
07:30:39 NOT NECESSARILY THEIR OPINION BUT FACTS BASED ON PERSONAL
07:30:44 KNOWLEDGE.
07:30:45 JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT THAT'S THE SORT OF EVIDENCE IN THE
07:30:50 RECORD THAT IS NECESSARILY BY WHICH YOU MUST BASE YOUR
07:30:53 DECISION.
07:30:53 I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT, COUNCIL, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
07:30:56 IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS DURING THIS HEARING, PERHAPS
07:30:59 DOWN THE ROAD, PERHAPS IT'S YOUR OCTOBER 22 WORKSHOP.
07:31:03 BUT THERE ARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE IN THEIR CODE
07:31:06 THE REQUIREMENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY MEETING.
07:31:09 THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT.
07:31:11 SO THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE FOR MEETING WITH
07:31:17 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR NEIGHBORS NECESSARILY.
07:31:20 THE NOTICES ARE SENT OUT AND THE NOTICES STATE THAT IF THERE
07:31:25 ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THE PEOPLE WHO GET THE
07:31:28 NOTICE, THEY'RE TO CONTACT THE APPLICANT.
07:31:29 SO JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
07:31:34 WITH REGARD TO COMMITMENTS RESPECTFULLY AND I RESPECT
07:31:37 MR. ROBLES WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT, THAT IS OF REALLY NO
07:31:41 LEGAL EFFECT WHATSOEVER.
07:31:45 IT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE FOR COUNCIL TO RELY ON THAT IF FOR
07:31:55 SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD SOMEBODY MAKES AN ASSERTION OF IT
07:31:59 NEEDED TO BE ENFORCED.
07:32:00 BY THAT POINT IN TIME THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO.
07:32:03 WITH REGARD TO THAT I ASK THAT YOU BASE YOUR DECISION ON
07:32:06 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE STAFF REPORTS, RECORD
07:32:09 OR BY TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL LISTEN THROUGH SOMEBODY COMING
07:32:13 FORTH OR YOU ASKING QUESTIONS.
07:32:16 AGAIN, IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION, YOU CAN ELICIT EVIDENCE.
07:32:20 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:32:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:32:25 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
07:32:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
07:32:27 MR. ROBLES, IN LIGHT OF ALL THIS, I KNOW YOU WANT TO MOVE
07:32:32 FORWARD WITH THIS WITH GREAT HASTE AND YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN
07:32:36 DELAYED BECAUSE OF COVID AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
07:32:40 I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST PURSUANT TO WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES
07:32:47 SUGGESTED, I STRONGLY SUGGESTED YOU ASK US FOR A CONTINUANCE
07:32:53 AT THIS POINT TO MEET WITH THAT GENTLEMAN AND HIS
07:32:56 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OBVIOUSLY VIRTUALLY.
07:33:00 WE WANT YOU TO BE SAFE.
07:33:01 TO MEET WITH THEM AND CHAT ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
07:33:05 RIGHT NOW YOU'RE FACING AN INCONSISTENT FINDING BY STAFF AND
07:33:10 AN INCONSISTENT FINDING BY PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:33:17 BIG CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUESTIONS FROM
07:33:19 COUNCIL.
07:33:20 TO ME IT ALL LINES UP TO SAY WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A MONTH AND
07:33:25 LOOK AT THE ISSUES AND SEE IF YOU CAN REVISE YOUR SITE PLAN
07:33:28 AND COME BACK.
07:33:30 >> YEAH.
07:33:31 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I THINK WE'LL REQUEST A CONTINUANCE.
07:33:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:33:39 >> I'LL PERSONALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
07:33:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:33:44 OKAY.
07:33:47 THEREFORE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD THERE BE
07:33:51 A MOTION OR -- MR. ROBLES, FOR A CONTINUANCE, YOU'D BE
07:33:56 REQUESTING UNTIL WHEN AND HOW LONG WOULD YOU NEED?
07:34:00 >> NEXT MONTH.
07:34:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 12, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:34:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT VERY FULL?
07:34:12 >> IT DOES NOT LOOK THAT WAY AND YOU'LL BE BACK AT THE
07:34:14 CONVENTION CENTER.
07:34:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARY?
07:34:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: FOR THE NOVEMBER 12, YOU HAVE 13 ITEMS
07:34:22 WHICH IS TYPICALLY YOUR LIMIT.
07:34:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:34:26 LET'S GO TO DECEMBER WHERE WE HAVE -- DECEMBER 10?
07:34:33 >> LOOKS LIKE MR. ROBLES IS ASKING FOR NOVEMBER.
07:34:38 I WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT.
07:34:40 I'LL MOVE TO PUT HIM ON NOVEMBER 12.
07:34:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:34:43 WE HAVE A MOTION.
07:34:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND.
07:34:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 6:00 P.M.?
07:34:53 IF WE CAN MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION.
07:34:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE THAT YEAH, YEAH.
07:34:56 6:00 P.M.?
07:34:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, PLEASE.
07:35:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T MIND ACCOMMODATING THE SITUATION
07:35:03 HERE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND SET A PRECEDENT.
07:35:08 WE SAID WE WOULD ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ITEMS ON
07:35:11 DOCKETS.
07:35:12 WE DON'T WANT TO BE OUT AT 1:00 OR 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
07:35:17 I CAUTION US IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WANT TO STICK TO A PLAN
07:35:20 THAT WE APPROVE, WE NEED TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE HEAR THAT.
07:35:23 IT'S MY SUGGESTION.
07:35:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE.
07:35:26 HOWEVER, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN
07:35:30 DINGFELDER FOR NOVEMBER 12 AT 6:00 P.M. SECOND FROM
07:35:33 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:35:35 ANY DISCUSSION?
07:35:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:35:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:35:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:35:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:35:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:35:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:35:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:35:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:35:59 >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
07:36:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:36:01 IT'S JUST A LITTLE AFTER 7:30.
07:36:03 WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
07:36:06 -- FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
07:36:09 IS THAT FINE?
07:36:10 ALL RIGHT.
07:36:11 FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
07:36:12 DO NOT TURN -- DO NOT LOG OUT.
07:36:16 JUST MUTE YOURSELF AND TURN YOUR CAMERAS OFF.
07:36:18 DON'T LOG OUT AND SEE YOU IN FIVE MINUTES.
07:45:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOMAIN HOMES.
07:45:36 >> ROLL CALL?
07:45:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
07:45:40 >> VIERA?
07:45:42 GUDES?
07:45:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
07:45:44 >> CARLSON?
07:45:46 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
07:45:47 >> DINGFELDER?
07:45:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
07:45:51 >> CITRO?
07:45:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
07:45:52 >> MIRANDA?
07:45:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
07:45:54 >> AND MANISCALCO?
07:45:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
07:45:59 ALL RIGHT.
07:46:01 >> SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES?
07:46:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:46:04 LET'S DO THAT EVEN THOUGH MR. ROBLES WAS HERE FOR THE LAST
07:46:06 ONE, BUT LET'S SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.
07:46:09 GO AHEAD.
07:46:11 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:46:12 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU'LL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
07:46:16 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:46:19 >> YES.
07:46:19 >> THANK YOU.
07:46:20 WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:46:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:46:25 ALL RIGHT.
07:46:25 LET'S BEGIN.
07:46:27 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:46:33 COORDINATION.
07:46:34 WE HAVE A ZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY 1905 NORTH
07:46:37 MITCHELL AVENUE.
07:46:41 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
07:46:43 DAVID HAY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:46:44 I'VE BEEN SWORN.
07:46:45 WE REMAIN IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
07:46:48 NEXT CASE.
07:46:50 MORE SPECIFICALLY THE CENTRAL PARK URBAN VILLAGE.
07:46:55 THE SUBJECT SITE, THERE IS TRANSIT WITHIN PROXIMITY OF THE
07:47:03 SITE.
07:47:04 APPROXIMATELY 190 FEET TO THE NORTH AT THE CORNER OF NORTH
07:47:07 MITCHELL AND EAST PALM AVENUE.
07:47:09 THAT PALM AVENUE IS SERVED BY ROUTE 5.
07:47:13 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION
07:47:17 ZONE.
07:47:20 ON TO THE AERIAL, THIS SITE IS GENERALLY JUST NORTH OF
07:47:24 DOWNTOWN.
07:47:25 DOWNTOWN IS OUT OF FRAME.
07:47:28 IT'S ON THE BOTTOM.
07:47:30 THIS IS NEBRASKA AVENUE.
07:47:31 THEN MITCHELL IS ONE BLOCK WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
07:47:38 KIND OF SOUTHWEST OF THE PALM AND NEBRASKA INTERSECTION.
07:47:44 OF COURSE THIS IS INTERSTATE 275 AND THIS BUILDING DOWN HERE
07:47:48 TO THE SOUTH IS THE GTE CREDIT UNION OFFICE BUILDING.
07:47:55 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
07:47:58 THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THESE PROPERTIES IN THIS -- I GUESS
07:48:05 LIGHT PURPLE COLOR IS THAT URBAN MIXED USE 60.
07:48:13 PURPLE DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM IS THE REGIONAL MIXED USE
07:48:17 100.
07:48:17 YOU'RE HEADING INTO THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT THE FURTHER SOUTH
07:48:22 YOU GO.
07:48:23 YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL 83, THE DARK BROWN TO THE WEST.
07:48:26 IT GOES DOWN TO I BELIEVE THAT'S A REZ20.
07:48:32 THEN YOU HAVE CMU35 ON THE EAST SIDE OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
07:48:36 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ONE THAT URBAN MIXED USE 60 FUTURE LAND
07:48:40 USE DESIGNATION WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF HIGH
07:48:44 INTENSITY AND DENSITY HORIZONTAL AND MIXED USE AND
07:48:49 SINGLE-USE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING GENERAL AND INTENSIVE
07:48:52 COMMERCIAL SERVICE OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
07:48:56 THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL OFFICE 1 ZONING IS CONSISTENT
07:49:04 ANTICIPATED UNDER THE URBAN MIXED USE.
07:49:06 THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT SITE FROM THE MULTI-FAMILY
07:49:14 RM24 TO RO WOULD ALLOW FOR COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE INFILL
07:49:19 DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT CENTRAL PARK URBAN VILLAGE.
07:49:22 THERE SHOULD BE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING
07:49:24 RESIDENTIAL USES BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD BE
07:49:28 CONSIDERED UNDER THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
07:49:30 BASED ON THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DOES FIND THE
07:49:33 PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE
07:49:36 IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:49:40 THANK YOU.
07:49:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:49:44 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU, DAVID.
07:49:47 CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
07:49:49 CAN YOU SEE MY PRESENTATION?
07:49:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
07:49:51 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
07:49:53 THIS IS REZ2070.
07:49:56 IT'S A REZONING REQUEST OF RESIDENTIAL OFFICE 1.
07:49:58 THE PROPERTY IS 1905 NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE.
07:50:04 IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT AT .13 ACRES AND IT'S ONE LOT TO THE
07:50:08 SOUTHEAST OF THE SOUTH PALM AVENUE NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE
07:50:11 INTERSECTION.
07:50:11 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
07:50:16 RESIDENCES AND MODEL HOME TUESDAY THE NORTH IN THE RO ZONING
07:50:19 DISTRICT. MULTI-FAMILY ACROSS NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE AND A
07:50:23 VACANT LOT TO THE SOUTH ALL WITHIN THE EXISTING RM-24 ZONING
07:50:28 DISTRICT.
07:50:28 THERE IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
07:50:31 THERE WERE NO LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
07:50:36 THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ALREADY ZONES RO-1.
07:50:39 THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO GO TO RO-1.
07:50:42 TO THE DIRECT EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS NEBRASKA ON BOTH SIDES
07:50:46 IS THE YC-5 ZONING DISTRICT FOR YBOR CITY WHICH IS A
07:50:52 COMMERCIAL ZONING GENERAL DISTRICT.
07:50:54 HERE IS A PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
07:50:58 IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT ALONG NEBRASKA.
07:51:00 TO THE WEST IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
07:51:02 TO THE NORTH IS A MODEL HOME AND SOUTH IS ANOTHER VACANT
07:51:07 LOT.
07:51:08 OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND
07:51:11 THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
07:51:13 CODE.
07:51:13 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:51:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARY AT THIS TIME?
07:51:19 OKAY.
07:51:20 HEARING NONE, MR. ROBLES?
07:51:26 >> COUNCIL, I HAVE REALLY NOTHING MORE TO ADD.
07:51:29 THIS IS A REZONE.
07:51:31 THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY DOMAIN HOMES.
07:51:34 THE ZONING PROPERTY IS ZONED BY DOMAIN HOMES AND ACTUALLY IS
07:51:37 OUR MODEL HOME.
07:51:41 IT'S OUR URBAN 360 MODEL HOME.
07:51:44 THAT LOT WAS PURCHASED SOME TIME AGO BY US.
07:51:49 IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT WE WILL PUT A SECOND MODEL HOME ON
07:51:53 THE PROPERTY AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
07:51:55 THE ZONING WAS INCOMPATIBLE FOR THE MODEL HOME CENTER OF THE
07:51:59 RO-1.
07:52:03 IT'S THE APPROPRIATE ZONING SO WE'D PUT A SECOND MODEL HOME
07:52:09 ON THAT SPOT.
07:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
07:52:13 OH, GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:52:14 >> OTHER THAN THAT I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ADD.
07:52:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:52:17 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?
07:52:19 IF NOT WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:52:22 ALL RIGHT.
07:52:23 IS THERE ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
07:52:26 OR AT THE CONVENTION CENTER?
07:52:28 FOR ITEM NUMBER 7 REZ2070.
07:52:32 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:52:35 >> THIS IS THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
07:52:37 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:52:39 THANK YOU.
07:52:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
07:52:42 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
07:52:47 ANYTHING MR. ROBLES, ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD?
07:52:50 >> NO, THAT'S IT.
07:52:51 THANK YOU.
07:52:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:52:56 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH A SECOND FROM
07:53:00 MIRANDA.
07:53:00 HEARING NO OBJECTION, THIS HEARING IS CLOSED.
07:53:05 MR. CARLSON?
07:53:06 WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 7?
07:53:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
07:53:16 HANG ON A SECOND.
07:53:17 ITEM NUMBER 7 FILE NUMBER REZ20-70 BEING PRESENTED FOR A
07:53:24 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
07:53:26 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1905 NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE IN THE
07:53:31 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
07:53:34 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT RM-24 RESIDENTIAL
07:53:38 MULTI-FAMILY TO RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE PROVIDING AN
07:53:43 EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:53:43 >> SECOND.
07:53:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS THAT A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
07:53:47 MIRANDA?
07:53:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
07:53:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
07:53:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:53:56 I DID HEAR WAS HAPPENING.
07:53:57 I HEARD THE WHOLE MEETING.
07:53:58 THANK YOU.
07:54:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:54:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:54:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:54:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:54:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:54:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:54:14 >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
07:54:16 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 5 AT
07:54:19 9:30 A.M.
07:54:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:54:23 MR. ROBLES, YOU STILL HAVE ONE MORE?
07:54:25 YES, YOU DO.
07:54:26 COMING UP.
07:54:27 ITEM NUMBER 8.
07:54:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
07:54:32 ITEM 8 IS REZ20-73.
07:54:36 IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FOR A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
07:54:40 THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1080 SOUTH CLEARVIEW AVENUE.
07:54:45 I'M SORRY.
07:54:45 WE NEED TO BE SWORN.
07:54:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:54:48 WHO IS THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER 8?
07:54:51 IF YOU ARE THE APPLICANT, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
07:54:54 UNMUTE YOURSELF AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
07:55:06 >> SAM CORSON FOR FRIENDS OF 4.
07:55:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE TO TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
07:55:28 OKAY.
07:55:28 WE HAVE SAM CORSON AND IS IT LARRY SLEDGE?
07:55:34 MR. SLEDGE, IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF AND THEN WE HAVE A
07:55:37 WILLIAM MARTIN.
07:55:38 WILLIAM MARTIN, WE CAN NOT SEE YOUR FACE YET.
07:55:40 YOU HAVE TO TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
07:55:52 OKAY, WE HAVE -- WE STILL CAN'T SEE WILLIAM MARTIN.
07:56:07 OKAY, THERE WE GO.
07:56:08 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS TO BE SWORN IN.
07:56:12 WE HAVE ANOTHER GENTLEMAN.
07:56:13 SIR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
07:56:16 ALL RIGHT.
07:56:18 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU'D TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
07:56:20 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
07:56:22 >> YES.
07:56:23 >> I DO.
07:56:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:56:24 MARY?
07:56:26 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN
07:56:28 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
07:56:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
07:56:33 I DEFER TO DAVID FOR HIS PRESENTATION.
07:56:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
07:56:36 >> MR. SHELBY?
07:56:37 I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:56:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
07:56:45 >> WHEN I SEE THE CAST OF CHARACTERS ON THE SCREEN HERE, IT
07:56:49 GIVES ME SOME CONCERN.
07:56:52 I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT AT ALL, BUT I
07:56:57 WOULD -- I'VE KNOWN MR. CORSON FOR -- WHEW.
07:57:01 30-SOMETHING YEARS.
07:57:02 HIS WIFE USED TO BABY-SIT MY KIDS.
07:57:06 MR. JONES ACTUALLY SOLD MY WIFE OUR HOUSE AND I'VE KNOWN HIM
07:57:10 PROFESSIONALLY FOR MANY YEARS, AND I DON'T KNOW THESE OTHER
07:57:17 TWO GUYS.
07:57:18 ANYWAY, MR. SHELBY.
07:57:19 MATT I SERIOUSLY WANT -- YOU SAID YOU DON'T KNOW THE OTHER
07:57:23 TWO GUYS.
07:57:23 I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
07:57:25 >> I DON'T KNOW MR. SLEDGE OR MARTIN.
07:57:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN.
07:57:31 >> I HAVE CONCERNS.
07:57:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET'S INQUIRE.
07:57:33 LET'S FIND OUT.
07:57:34 UNDER CHAPTER 286 OF FLORIDA STATUTES, EXCEPT FOR NARROW
07:57:41 CIRCUMSTANCES YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO VOTE.
07:57:43 LET'S MAKE SURE THAT FIRST OF ALL, YOU STATED THE OUTSET YOU
07:57:47 ARE NOT FAMILIAR SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS APPLICATION IN THE
07:57:52 SENSE THAT YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FINANCIAL STAKE ONE WAY OR
07:57:55 THE OTHER IN THE OUTCOME OF THE MATTER.
07:57:57 IS THAT CORRECT?
07:57:57 >> CORRECT.
07:57:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
07:58:00 SO IN THAT SENSE, THEN ANY RELATIVE OF YOURS OR ANYBODY BY
07:58:07 WHOM YOU ARE RETAINED HAVE A FINANCIAL STAKE IN THE OUTCOME
07:58:12 OF THIS MATTER?
07:58:14 >> NO.
07:58:15 HERE IS MY CONCERN AS MR. GUDES RECUSED HIMSELF THE OTHER
07:58:20 DAY FROM AN ITEM.
07:58:22 I THINK IT WAS UP THERE NEAR HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
07:58:28 HE SAID HE AND HIS FAMILY WERE CLOSE FRIENDS WITH THE
07:58:30 PETITIONER.
07:58:31 HE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PARTICIPATING.
07:58:35 I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU, ORLANDO.
07:58:37 I'M JUST SAYING I'M SORT OF FEELING THE SAME WAY.
07:58:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN.
07:58:43 THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND CERTAINLY
07:58:47 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS SORT OF THING.
07:58:53 OBVIOUSLY AS LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THIS COMMENT GOES
07:58:57 TO EVERYBODY ON CITY COUNCIL, AS LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS,
07:59:01 YOU CAMPAIGN.
07:59:03 YOU GET ELECTED.
07:59:04 AND YOU KNOW THE CITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY KNOW
07:59:08 YOU.
07:59:09 MORE SO THAN MOST PEOPLE.
07:59:13 YOU'LL HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE.
07:59:15 THE QUESTION COMES TO A PROVISION ADDED RELATIVELY RECENTLY
07:59:19 WHICH WAS PASSED, I DON'T KNOW, 2013.
07:59:21 FLORIDA STATUTES TO ENSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING FREE FROM
07:59:29 POTENTIAL BIAS, YOU CAN ABSTAIN BUT HERE IS THE ULTIMATE
07:59:34 QUESTION.
07:59:34 THE ULTIMATE QUESTION IS AS A FINDER OF FACT AND AS A
07:59:38 SOMEBODY WHO IS SITTING IN A QUASI JUDICIAL CAPACITY, CAN
07:59:41 YOU BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND JUDGE YOUR DECISION AND BASE
07:59:47 YOUR DECISION ON THE EVIDENCE, THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
07:59:51 EVIDENCE THAT YOU FIND IN THE RECORD?
07:59:53 IF THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, THEN FLORIDA STATUTE SAYS YOU
07:59:56 MUST VOTE.
07:59:58 FLORIDA STATUTE ALSO SAYS THAT IF YOU FIND YOURSELF UNABLE
08:00:03 TO DO THAT, OR FOR WHATEVER REASON IT GOES BEYOND YOUR
08:00:09 FRIENDSHIP OR BEYOND, FOR INSTANCE, TO USE AN EXAMPLE, A
08:00:12 LONG-STANDING BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP THAT YOUR FAMILY MAY
08:00:15 HAVE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAMILY, THAT COULD BE A BASIS FOR
08:00:18 RECUSAL.
08:00:20 SO BASED --
08:00:21 >> OKAY.
08:00:21 LET ME CATCH YOU UP, MR. SHELBY.
08:00:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COMING UP MORE OFTEN.
08:00:26 WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS I DON'T WANT TO SIT -- I
08:00:30 DON'T WANT COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE ACCUSED OF SAYING THIS IS
08:00:33 TOO DIFFICULT OF A DECISION OR I HAVE TOO CLOSE OF A
08:00:37 RELATIONSHIP AND I'M UNABLE TO SERVE BECAUSE I CAN NOT VOTE.
08:00:41 THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
08:00:42 NOT JUST TO YOU COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BUT A GENERAL CONCERN
08:00:46 TO COUNCIL.
08:00:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR YOU.
08:00:48 I BELIEVE I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTS.
08:00:52 WHEN MR. CORSON POPPED UP, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM FOR A WHILE.
08:00:57 I DO HAVE A VERY GOOD FEELINGS, YOU KNOW, TOWARD HIM AND HIS
08:00:59 FAMILY.
08:01:01 MR. JONES I CAN TAKE OR LEAVE.
08:01:02 JUST KIDDING.
08:01:03 [LAUGHS]
08:01:04 ANYWAY.
08:01:08 IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
08:01:14 I REALIZE WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE KNOW AND PEOPLE WE'RE
08:01:17 FRIENDLY WITH IN THE REZONING PROCESS.
08:01:21 I'LL WORK THROUGH IT.
08:01:25 THANK YOU.
08:01:25 >> MARTY, CAN I ASK YOU ONE TOO?
08:01:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, PLEASE.
08:01:35 >> IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS SCOUTING RELATED.
08:01:36 ONE OF MY SON'S WAS A MEMBER OF A BOY SCOUT TROOP.
08:01:41 HE IS NO LONGER A MEMBER.
08:01:42 HE WAS A MEMBER LAST YEAR BUT NOT NOW.
08:01:45 I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONFLICT.
08:01:47 IF YOU THINK IT IS LET ME KNOW.
08:01:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU'RE
08:01:52 INDICATING THERE IS ANY FINANCIAL STAKE BY YOU OR YOUR
08:01:57 FAMILY OR FIRM OR ANYBODY ELSE BY WHOM YOU RETAIN.
08:02:01 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
08:02:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY QUESTION IS CAN YOU BE FAIR AND
08:02:06 IMPARTIAL AND BASE IT ON ON THE EVIDENCE IN THE -- ON THE
08:02:10 EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD?
08:02:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN YOU DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO VOTE
08:02:15 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
08:02:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
08:02:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. GUDES.
08:02:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ALWAYS LIKE WHEN HE INTERJECTS AND MAKES
08:02:26 IT TO WHEN WE UNDERSTAND OUR PLACE.
08:02:29 I DID GET A PHONE CALL LAST WEEK EXPLAINING TO ME IN DETAIL
08:02:36 IN SITUATIONS I HAD AND ONE OF THOSE WAS CORRECT.
08:02:41 HE KIND OF LED ME DOWN THE RIGHT PATH.
08:02:44 THE KEY WORD IS FINANCIAL OBLIGATION OR GAIN FOR A FAMILY
08:02:52 MEMBER.
08:02:52 I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE A SIDE BAR IN THE FUTURE TO TELL WHAT
08:02:56 ABSTAINING MEANS WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONFLICTS.
08:02:58 WE ACTUALLY KNOW.
08:03:01 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
08:03:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
08:03:07 HERE IS AN IMPORTANT POINT.
08:03:12 IF YOU CAN NOT BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND IF THERE IS REASON
08:03:16 TO BELIEVE YOU ARE BIASED OR PREJUDICED THAT COULD DAMAGE
08:03:23 THE CITY'S POSITION RELATIVE TO YOU GOING FORWARD.
08:03:26 I'M TALKING IN GENERALITIES.
08:03:27 CERTAINLY ONE WHO IS BIASED OR PREJUDICED, THEREFORE, IN
08:03:32 ORDER TO ENSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING MAY HAVE TO ABSTAIN.
08:03:35 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY FACTS TO THAT EFFECT SINCE WE HAD THIS
08:03:39 DISCUSSION.
08:03:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA?
08:03:42 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY I THINK THIS IS A GOOD
08:03:44 DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
08:03:44 OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR TONIGHT BUT JUST IN GENERAL, I MEAN, I'VE
08:03:49 TAKEN A LOT OF VOTES WHERE APPLICANTS ARE PEOPLE CLOSE NEE
08:03:55 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
08:03:56 I VOTED FOR ARE THEM.
08:03:57 I VOTED -- I HAD VERY AWKWARD SITUATIONS.
08:03:59 I REMEMBER ONE VOTE, I CAN SAY THIS NOW.
08:04:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DON'T GO INTO SPECIFICS.
08:04:08 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YEAH.
08:04:08 THIS WAS YEARS AGO.
08:04:09 SOMEBODY THAT I WAS FRIENDS WITH AND AFTER THE VOTE, I
08:04:12 IMMEDIATELY GOT AN ANGRY E-MAIL FROM HIS WIFE, FROM HIS
08:04:15 SISTER.
08:04:16 IT WAS REALLY AWKWARD.
08:04:18 YOU GOT TO DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO.
08:04:20 BUT YEAH.
08:04:20 IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
08:04:21 I'LL SAY NOTHING ELSE.
08:04:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
08:04:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:04:28 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:04:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS SO I'M GOOD.
08:04:32 ANYWAY.
08:04:33 >> YOU GOT SIX RIGHT HERE.
08:04:34 >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
08:04:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
08:04:38 [LAUGHS]
08:04:38 ALL RIGHT.
08:04:40 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
08:04:42 DAVID WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
08:04:44 I'VE BEEN SWORN.
08:04:46 THE NEXT ITEM WE -- IS 20-73.
08:04:50 IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT MORE
08:04:55 SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE GULF VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:04:59 THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED APPROXIMATELY .2 MILES TO THE
08:05:03 SOUTH.
08:05:05 CORNER OF WEST SAND CARLOS AND DEL MABRY.
08:05:09 THAT PORTION OF DEL MABRY IS SERVED BY (INAUDIBLE) 19 AND
08:05:13 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION
08:05:20 ZONE.
08:05:21 HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:05:26 YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE VERY UNIQUE CORNER HERE.
08:05:28 THIS IS DEL MABRY.
08:05:30 THESE ARE ALL THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT LINE THIS PORTION OF
08:05:34 DEL MABRY.
08:05:35 RIGHT OFF DEL MABRY IT GOES INTO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND
08:05:39 YOU HAVE PLANNED HIGH SCHOOL DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH.
08:05:46 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SITE AND
08:05:50 PROPERTY LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST AND EAST IN THE YELLOW IS
08:05:53 THE RESIDENTIAL 6 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
08:05:57 IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST IN THE PINK, THAT'S THE COMMUNITY
08:06:00 MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
08:06:05 THE SCHOOL IS REPRESENTED BY BLUE.
08:06:07 THAT'S THE PUBLIC SEMI-FAMILY FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
08:06:11 THERE IS A STRIP OF RESIDENTIAL 20 ON THE EAST SIDE OF
08:06:16 CLEARVIEW GOING UP THAT WOULD BE WHERE ANY TOWNHOMESS OR
08:06:20 MULTI-FAMILY HOMES COULD BE CONSIDERED.
08:06:24 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL THROUGH THIS REZONING
08:06:26 PETITION TO REZONE A .31 ACRE SUBJECT SITE FROM A P.D. TO
08:06:32 ANOTHER P.D. TO ALLOW FOR 1,975 SQUARE FOOT PRIVATE
08:06:37 RECREATION FACILITY.
08:06:43 THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OFFERS A UNIQUE
08:06:46 BUFFERING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL USES SOUTH DEL MABRY HIGHWAY
08:06:50 IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 175 FEET TO THE WEST.
08:06:53 AS A RESULT THE SUBJECT SITE INTERFACES THE BACK SIDE OF
08:06:57 COMMERCIAL USES TO ITS WEST.
08:07:01 TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH IS PLANNED HIGH.
08:07:03 TO THE EAST IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCE.
08:07:09 P.D. ORIENTS THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY TO THE WESTERN
08:07:12 PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE PROVIDING AMPLE SPACE BETWEEN
08:07:16 THE FACILITY AND RESIDENTS TO THE EAST.
08:07:19 FURTHER THE P.D. ELEVATION PROPOSE A FORM THAT WOULD BE
08:07:23 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SCALE AND CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING
08:07:25 NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:07:26 OVERALL THE PROPOSED PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS
08:07:29 COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD
08:07:34 AND WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL 6
08:07:37 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, THERE YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
08:07:41 STAFF DOES FIND AND RECOMMENDS TO YOU THIS EVENING THE
08:07:44 PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE
08:07:48 PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:07:52 THANK YOU.
08:07:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:07:54 NEXT?
08:08:00 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
08:08:01 CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN PLEASE?
08:08:03 THANK YOU.
08:08:05 THIS IS CASE 20-73 FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A PRIVATE
08:08:10 RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
08:08:10 OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLIANT AND STAFF FOUND THIS
08:08:17 INCONSISTENT ON THE LOCAL STREET ACCESS WAIVER.
08:08:19 THIS PROPERTY IS VACANT.
08:08:21 IT'S A 10-80 CLEARVIEW AVENUE.
08:08:23 IT WAS AN EXISTING P.D. FROM 1985 FOR A CONGREGATE LIVING
08:08:27 FACILITY.
08:08:28 THE USE HAS SINCE BEEN VACATED AND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS
08:08:33 VACANT.
08:08:34 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY
08:08:37 TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY.
08:08:43 THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
08:08:46 A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY IN THIS LAND USE CATEGORY
08:08:51 REQUIRES SPECIAL USE CRITERIA REVIEW FOUND IN SECTION 27-132
08:08:56 AND THOSE ARE DETAILED AND ANALYZED IN THE STAFF REPORT
08:08:59 BEFORE YOU, COUNCIL.
08:09:00 THE WAIVER -- THE WAIVER RELATED TO THE CRITERIA OF 132 IS
08:09:07 PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES ARE SUPPOSED TO ONLY ACCESS
08:09:10 ARTERIAL AND COLLECTORS.
08:09:11 UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS SCENARIO THIS PROPERTY ONLY HAS ACCESS
08:09:14 TO LOCAL STREETS WHICH ARE SOUTH CLEARVIEW AVENUE AND WEST
08:09:19 SAN MIGUEL.
08:09:20 BY DEFAULT THEY ARE REQUESTING THE WAIVER TO ACCESS THE
08:09:23 LOCAL STREETS.
08:09:24 THE OTHER WAIVER RELATED TO THE CRITERIA OF THE SPECIAL USE
08:09:27 IS THAT NO PARKING IS SUPPOSED TO BY WITHIN 25 FEET OF A
08:09:31 RESIDENTIAL AREA.
08:09:33 THEIR PROPOSED PARKING WHICH I'LL SHOW IN A MOMENT IS WITHIN
08:09:36 THREE FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
08:09:40 THE LAST WAIVER IS GENERAL USE BUFFER STANDARDS FROM THE
08:09:42 EAST AND NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
08:09:44 THE CODE REQUIRES 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
08:09:47 THEY'RE ASKING TO REDUCE THOSE DOWN TO THREE FEET TO THE
08:09:50 EAST WITH A SIX-FOOT HIGH PBC FENCE AND TO THE NORTH FOUR
08:09:56 FEET WITH A SIX-FOOT HIGH PBC FENCE.
08:09:59 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.
08:10:03 LET ME ZOOM IN.
08:10:06 HERE IS THE PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
08:10:08 AGAIN, IT'S UNDER 2,000 SQUARE FEET WITH PARKING
08:10:13 COMING -- TWO-WAY PARKING COMING OFF CLEARVIEW HERE.
08:10:16 THEN A ONE-WAY EXIT ON WEST SAN MIGUEL WITH THE REQUIRED
08:10:20 PARKING TO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
08:10:25 STAFF WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE APPLICANTS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE
08:10:28 THEM TO DESIGN A BUILDING THAT WAS MORE RESIDENTIAL IN
08:10:32 CHARACTER TO FIT INTO THE AREA BECAUSE IT IS ON THE EDGE OF
08:10:36 AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY IN THE BACK OF COMMERCIAL
08:10:40 DEVELOPMENT.
08:10:42 YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ELEVATIONS SCALE AND MASSING WE HAVE A
08:10:46 RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.
08:10:50 DAVID SHOWED AN AERIAL BUT HERE IS THE ZONING.
08:10:52 THERE ARE NO LOCAL OR NATIONAL LANDMARKS WITHIN THEB 1,000
08:10:58 FOOT RADIUS.
08:11:00 THIS PROPERTY BACKS RIGHT UP TO THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND
08:11:05 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING ON SOUTH DEL MABRY AND IS AT THE
08:11:10 EDGE OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:11:11 THE HIGH SCHOOL IS TO THE SOUTH.
08:11:19 IT'S REALLY AS THE CORNER OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:11:24 THE FIELDS OF PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
08:11:26 TO THE WEST IS A BACK OF THE COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER.
08:11:31 TO THE EAST IS A DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
08:11:35 SAYING THAT, OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT FOUND IT INCONSISTENT
08:11:40 JUST BASED ON TRANSPORTATION INCONSISTENT FINDING BECAUSE OF
08:11:43 THE ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC.
08:11:48 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:11:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
08:11:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:11:56 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
08:11:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WILL BE PRESENTING AND SPEAKING ON
08:11:59 THIS?
08:11:59 WHO IS THE APPLICANT?
08:12:03 MR. CORSON OR MR. MARTIN?
08:12:08 MR. MARTIN, YOU'RE MUTED.
08:12:09 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
08:12:19 >> I'M BILLY MARTIN.
08:12:20 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF 4.
08:12:22 WE ARE ON -- COMING TO YOU ON BEHALF OF TROOP 4.
08:12:26 IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN TAMPA IN 1916.
08:12:30 IT'S THE OLDEST SCOUT TROOP IN THE AREA.
08:12:35 WE HAD A PERMANENT FACILITY BEGINNING IN 1947 THAT WE
08:12:40 OCCUPIED UP UNTIL 2013 AND LOST BECAUSE OF JUST SOME ISSUES
08:12:46 WITH THE CHURCH AND THINGS WITH PDA.
08:12:50 WE COME REPRESENTING OUR ORGANIZATION AND TRYING TO FIND A
08:12:54 PERMANENT HOME FOR THE SCOUTS OF TROOP 4.
08:12:57 MY GRANDFATHER AND GREAT GRANDFATHER BILL ARMSTEAD BOTH WERE
08:13:02 SCOUTS AND LEADERS.
08:13:03 I BECAME INVOLVED IN 2013 TO TRY TO HELP TO ESTABLISH A
08:13:07 PLACE FOR THE TROOP 4 TO MEET.
08:13:11 DEVELOPING A TRADITION OF SCOUTING AND GROWING TO LEADERS OF
08:13:14 THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY BRING
08:13:18 FORWARD AND WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS
08:13:22 IN OUR ATTEMPT TO TRY TO FIND AN AREA TO DO THIS TO DISCOVER
08:13:26 THIS PROPERTY, AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS A MEETING PLACE FOR
08:13:31 THE BOYS TO BE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
08:13:34 ON THAT I'LL INVITE (INAUDIBLE) JONES TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE
08:13:43 DETAIL ON THE PRESENTATION.
08:13:44 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
08:13:48 FIRST WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE.
08:13:51 IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST TO THE NORTH
08:13:54 OF PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT ROAD COMING BY IT IS SAN
08:13:59 MIGUEL.
08:14:00 THE STAFF SAID THOSE ARE NOT ARTERIAL ROADS BUT VERY BUSY
08:14:06 ROAD.
08:14:06 IF WHORF EVER BEEN THERE IN THE MORNING TIME WHEN SCHOOL IS
08:14:09 OPENING UP, ALL THE CARS ARE CUTTING THROUGH THERE IN THE
08:14:12 AFTERNOONS AND IT'S DEFINITELY A CUT-THROUGH ROAD FOR
08:14:16 GETTING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND GETTING OVER TO HINES
08:14:19 AVENUE TO GO NORTH OR SOUTH.
08:14:25 IF YOU STAND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND LOOK DUE
08:14:27 WEST, YOU'RE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT SOUTH DEL MABRY HIGHWAY.
08:14:33 WE'RE ABOUT 175 FEET FROM SOUTH DEL MABRY AS STAFF SAID.
08:14:38 WHEN WE STARTED THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT WITH THE SITE PLAN, WE
08:14:43 TRIED TO BE AS SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE COULD.
08:14:46 THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO SHIFT THE STRUCTURE AS FAR WEST AS
08:14:53 WE COULD.
08:14:54 I BELIEVE WE'LL BE STRUCTURE -- OF THE BUILDING WILL BE
08:14:56 ABOUT 59 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE GOING FROM THE EAST TO
08:14:59 THE WEST.
08:15:06 SO IF IT WEREN'T FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WE COULD BE SEVEN
08:15:09 FEET BUT WE TRIED TO SHIFT THAT AS FAR WEST WE COULD.
08:15:13 I BELIEVE WE'LL BE 34 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE
08:15:16 STRUCTURE.
08:15:19 IN DOING SO, THAT MADE THE PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE
08:15:22 PROPERTY.
08:15:22 AND ONE THING TO NOTE, WE'RE ACTUALLY EXCEEDING THE PARKING
08:15:27 REQUIREMENT.
08:15:30 ALSO, THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE VERY SMALL.
08:15:33 IT'S ONLY ABOUT 2,000 SQUARE FEET.
08:15:39 IT'S BASICALLY A ONE-STORY BUILDING.
08:15:42 WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD MAKE A TERRIFIC BUFFER IN THE
08:15:45 COMMERCIAL USE TO THE WEST GOING TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES TO
08:15:47 THE EAST.
08:15:50 ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED A
08:15:54 P.D. FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
08:15:56 THAT CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY.
08:15:58 WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE INTENSIFYING THE USE BUT WE'RE
08:16:01 DECREASING THE INTENSITY OF USE GOING TO THE MEETING SPACE
08:16:04 FOR THE TROOP 4 FOR THE SCOUTS TO MEET.
08:16:09 ALSO KEEP IN MIND WE DON'T MEET EVERY NIGHT.
08:16:12 WE KIND OF FOLLOW THE SCHOOL CALENDAR.
08:16:24 WE DON'T MEET IN THE SUMMERTIME.
08:16:25 WE DON'T MEET DURING THE DAY.
08:16:27 IT WILL BE PRETTY MUCH A LOW INTENSITY QUIET USE OF THE
08:16:30 BUILDING.
08:16:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. NEWCOMB, I SEE YOU SIGNED IN.
08:16:48 ARE YOU PART OF THE APPLICANT?
08:16:49 >> YES.
08:16:49 I COULD NOT UNMUTE MYSELF AT THE TIME.
08:16:52 I THINK THEY HAD ME AS A SPEAKER -- AN OUTSIDE SPEAKER.
08:16:55 IF I COULD BE SWORN IN BEFORE I SPEAK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
08:16:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
08:17:01 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
08:17:03 >> YES, MA'AM.
08:17:04 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU'LL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
08:17:06 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:17:08 >> YES, MA'AM.
08:17:09 A SCOUT IS TRUST WORTHY.
08:17:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:17:15 CONTINUE.
08:17:18 >> THANK YOU, MR. MANISCALCO.
08:17:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. JONES, ANYTHING ELSE?
08:17:24 >> JUST TO KIND OF FINISH UP, WE REALLY TRIED TO BE AS
08:17:29 SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS AS WE COULD.
08:17:31 WE REACHED OUT TO THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
08:17:35 I E-MAILED THEM PERSONALLY TO SPEAK WITH THEM AND E-MAIL
08:17:39 THEM BACK AND FORTH AND OFFERED TO MEET WITH WITH THEM AND
08:17:42 GO OVER THE PLANS.
08:17:44 I DIDN'T HEAR FROM ANYONE THAT THEY HAD OBJECTIONS.
08:17:48 I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WILL SPEAK TONIGHT AGAINST IT BUT WE
08:17:52 FEEL THIS WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
08:17:55 COMMUNITY.
08:17:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:17:56 THANK YOU.
08:17:57 >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COLOR RENDERINGS IF I'M ABLE TO SHARE
08:18:01 THE SCREEN.
08:18:02 I CAN SHARE THOSE AND BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE -- OKAY.
08:18:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:18:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE, SIR.
08:18:24 >> SAM CORSON.
08:18:26 I'VE BEEN SWORN.
08:18:27 TROOP 4 IS THE OLDEST BOY SCOUT TROOP IN THE CITY.
08:18:29 WE HAVE OVER A 100-YEAR HISTORY.
08:18:32 WE HAVE BEEN SPONSORED BY A LONGTIME CHURCH THAT WENT
08:18:35 DEFUNCT.
08:18:36 WE LOST A BUILDING THAT WE HAD USE OF FOR 50 YEARS,
08:18:40 EXCLUSIVE USE OF.
08:18:41 WE FORMED THIS ORGANIZATION TO FIND A SITE THAT WE COULD
08:18:46 HAVE A PERMANENT FACILITY FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS.
08:18:49 WE INTEND TO OCCUPY THIS SITE IN PERPETUITY.
08:18:52 TROOP 4 HAD OVER 350 EAGLE SCOUTS IN OUR 100 YEAR HISTORY.
08:18:58 WE HAVE HAD COUNTLESS SERVICE PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT THE
08:19:01 COMMUNITY.
08:19:02 SUCH AS SERVING ALPHA HOUSE, RENOVATIONS AT OAK LAWN
08:19:09 CEMETERY AND THE VICTORY SHIP.
08:19:10 WE INTEND TO USE THIS FACILITY FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS TO
08:19:14 CONTINUE TO SERVE THE YOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO BENEFIT
08:19:19 THE LARGER COMMUNITY.
08:19:21 I WOULD JUST ECHO WHAT MR. JONES SAYS.
08:19:24 THIS IS A LESS INTENSE USE OF A SITE THAT REALLY IS A TOUGH
08:19:30 SITE.
08:19:31 IT BACKS UP TO THAT COMMERCIAL AND YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO
08:19:33 PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
08:19:34 THERE IS NOT A LOT OF GOOD USES BUT WE FEEL IT'S JUST AN
08:19:38 EXCELLENT USE FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND
08:19:43 TO BENEFIT THE CITY IN GENERAL.
08:19:47 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CURRENT SCOUT MASTER LARRY SLEDGE.
08:19:51 I CAN STOP MY SCREEN SHARE.
08:19:55 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
08:19:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:19:56 GO AHEAD.
08:19:57 >> JUST REAL QUICK, I'M THE CURRENT SCOUT MASTER.
08:20:00 I'M THE CURRENT LEADER OF THE BOY SCOUTS.
08:20:02 WE HAVE, YOU KNOW,P A NUMBER OF BOY SCOUTS AS WELL AS CUB
08:20:07 SCOUTS INVOLVED IN OUR TROOP.
08:20:09 I WANT TO SAY A QUICK THANK YOU TO MR. SHELBY AND COUNCILMAN
08:20:12 DINGFELDER FOR THE LITTLE CIVICS LESSON AT THE BEGINNING FOR
08:20:16 ALL MY SCOUTS LISTENING IN TONIGHT.
08:20:19 YOU ALL HELPED ME IN A GREAT WAY THERE.
08:20:21 ALSO, ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR PAST WORK WITH
08:20:25 OTHER TROOPS.
08:20:26 WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.
08:20:27 JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO BE AWARE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE HERE
08:20:32 WORKING TO BUILD THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW.
08:20:35 I PERSONALLY WAS NOT A SCOUT BUT WHEN I GOT INVOLVED WITH
08:20:39 TROOP 4, MY FIRST GRADE SON WAS INVITED WHO IS NOW A JUNIOR
08:20:47 IN HIGH SCHOOL.
08:20:47 I PUT ALL THREE OF MY BOYS THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
08:20:53 IT'S JUST AN OUTSTANDING PROGRAM.
08:20:55 I IMAGINE MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR ALREADY ABOUT WHAT
08:20:58 SCOUTING DOES.
08:20:58 BUT TROOP 4 IS PARTICULARLY SPECIAL AND WE ARE DOING MANY
08:21:03 GREAT THINGS WITH THESE YOUNG MEN.
08:21:05 WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT WE HAVE FROM THE CITY AND
08:21:08 FOUNDERS.
08:21:09 I'M PRIMARILY HERE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
08:21:12 MIGHT HAVE REGARDING OUR ONGOING USES OF THE FACILITY ONCE
08:21:18 IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
08:21:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:21:24 >> I GUESS I'M NEXT.
08:21:25 THIS IS JOHN NEWCOMB.
08:21:27 I'M A RESIDENT AT 4201 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, TAMPA.
08:21:31 I WAS SWORN IN AS YOU SAW LAST.
08:21:34 I'M SPEAKING AS A FORMER SCOUT MASTER AND FORMER CUB MASTER.
08:21:40 I WAS MOST INVOLVED WITH BOTH THE TROOP AND THE PACK FOR THE
08:21:44 NINE YEARS MY SON WAS A CUB SCOUT AND BOY SCOUT.
08:21:48 I WAS MYSELF A SCOUT.
08:21:54 I'M AN EAGLE SCOUT AS IS MY BROTHER AND HAD GREAT FOND
08:21:58 MEMORIES.
08:21:59 I BECAME VERY INVOLVED WITH SCOUTING BOTH IN THE TROOP AS
08:22:02 WELL AS THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
08:22:06 I SERVED FOR TWO YEARS AS SCOUT MASTER.
08:22:09 LIKE MANY TROOP 4 LEADERS AND ADULT LEADERS, IT HAS THIS
08:22:16 INFECTIOUS QUALITY OF GETTING YOU TO WANT TO REMAIN INVOLVED
08:22:20 WITH THE TROOPS.
08:22:21 I STAY INVOLVED INCLUDING TIMES LIKE THIS.
08:22:24 I'M INVOLVED WITH FRIENDS OF 4 AND EAGLE SCOUT BOARD REVIEW
08:22:29 AND SCOUT CONFERENCES AND HELPED WITH MAYOR (INAUDIBLE) AND
08:22:34 THINGS THROUGH THE YEARS AS WELL.
08:22:35 DURING THE TIME I WAS MOST ACTIVE WITH THE TROOP I WAS ALSO
08:22:38 THE DISTRICT CHAIR OF THE FORMER GULF RIDGE COUNCIL ROUGH
08:22:41 RIDERS DISTRICT WHICH INVOLVES SCOUTING IN THE ENTIRE SOUTH
08:22:45 TAMPA AREA GOING FROM 275 ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:22:49 THERE IS COUNTLESS UNITS, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 40 OR 50 UNITS
08:22:52 IN THAT TIME PERIOD OF TROOPS, POSTS, CREWS AND PACKS.
08:22:59 I CAN STATE UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT TROOP 4 IS, IN MY OPINION,
08:23:04 THE TOP BUT CERTAINLY ONE OF THE TOP THREE UNITS IN THIS
08:23:08 AREA IN TERMS OF THE LEADERSHIP, THE INVOLVEMENT AND
08:23:12 ACTIVITIES THE BOYS GET INVOLVED WITH.
08:23:14 IT HAS AS TOLD, BEEN AROUND FOR 104 YEARS MAKING IT THE
08:23:20 LONGEST CONTINUOUSLY CHARTERED TROOP IN THE SOUTHEASTERN
08:23:23 UNITED STATES.
08:23:24 IT'S A TREASURE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:23:26 WHILE SCOUT MASTER, SCOUT PROJECTS THAT SCOUTS ARE INVOLVED
08:23:30 WITH WHILE I WAS MASTER INCLUDED IMPROVEMENT OF LOCAL PARKS.
08:23:33 I WAS PARTICULARLY PROUD THAT MY SON MET WITH THE PARKS
08:23:36 DIRECTOR AND SEVERAL PARKS STAFF AND WAS INVOLVED WITH THE
08:23:39 SIGNIFICANT RENOVATIONS OF (INAUDIBLE) PARK INCLUDING
08:23:44 CONVERTING IT FROM AT THAT POINT A FAIRLY DORMANT USE TO A
08:23:47 VERY ACTIVE DOG PARK.
08:23:50 BROUGHT IN -- BAY NEWS 9 ACTUALLY FEATURED IT AT THE TIME.
08:23:55 THEY WERE GOING TO GO AND SHOW A DECREPIT PARK AND THEY WERE
08:23:58 SHOCKED WHEN THEY SAW 30 OR 40 SCOUTS AND OTHERS RUNNING
08:24:02 AROUND WORKING THAT DAY AND WORKING ON A SERVICE PROJECT.
08:24:07 IN ADDITION RIVER STATE PARK.
08:24:09 YOU HEARD THE OAKLONG CEMETERY, THE AMERICAN VICTORY SHIPS,
08:24:14 STORM WATER DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
08:24:16 THERE IS COUNTLESS PROJECTS AS A RESULT OF SCOUTS THROUGH
08:24:19 THE YEARS.
08:24:20 THAT WAS JUST IN THE TWO YEARS I WAS SCOUT MASTER.
08:24:23 WE THOUGHT WE HAD A LIFETIME HOME OVER AT FIRST CHRISTIAN
08:24:27 CHURCH.
08:24:30 WHEN THAT CHURCH WENT DEFUNCT AND SOLD TO HOLY TRINITY, THE
08:24:37 CHARTER WAS -- DECLINED TO RENEW OUR CHARTERS.
08:24:42 FORTUNATELY PRESBYTERIAN OPENED US WITH WELCOME ARMS.
08:24:47 WE HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY AND THEY HAVE BEEN ACCOMMODATING BUT
08:24:50 WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE LONG-TERM -- WE'RE KIND OF MOVING
08:24:53 AROUND IN VARIOUS, YOU KNOW -- WE'RE NOT SURE WE'LL KEEP THE
08:24:57 HOME ON A PERMANENT BASIS.
08:24:58 WE IMMEDIATELY FORMED FRIENDS OF 4 TO TRY TO FIND A HOME
08:25:01 THAT WE COULD HAVE ON A PERMANENT BASIS.
08:25:04 OUR GOAL IS STILL TO REMAIN CHARTERED BY THE PRESBYTERIAN
08:25:08 CHURCH BUT TO HAVE A HOME THAT WE CAN KNOW WE'LL NEVER BE
08:25:13 TAKEN AWAY FROM US.
08:25:14 I ASKED YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE CONTINUE TO ALLOW
08:25:17 US TO SHAPE OUR LOCAL YOUTH TO BECOME THE GOOD CITIZENS THEY
08:25:21 HAVE BECOME OVER THE YEARS AND TO CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR
08:25:25 COMMITTEE.
08:25:25 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND OPEN IT UP FOR ANY
08:25:28 QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
08:25:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
08:25:31 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
08:25:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
08:25:35 ANOTHER DISCLOSURE, I KNOW JOHN PRETTY DARN WELL TOO.
08:25:41 I THINK YOU GUYS AS I SAID, THE BOW SCOUTS, WE APPRECIATE
08:25:46 ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO AND I THINK IT GOES WITHOUT
08:25:51 SAYING.
08:25:52 MY DAD IS AN EAGLE SCOUT.
08:25:57 EVEN THOUGH I LOST HIM LAST YEAR.
08:26:05 ANYWAY, P.D. SITE PLAN WHICH I'M LOOKING AT AND MR. JONES
08:26:09 YOU CAN HELP ME OR I MIGHT NEED YOUR HELP, CATE, WITH THIS.
08:26:13 THE COUPLE LETTERS WE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OR CONCERNS
08:26:17 FROM THE NEIGHBORS, THEY DIDN'T SPEAK TO BOY SCOUTS BUT SOME
08:26:22 SPOKE TO THE P.D. PROPOSED USE WHICH IS PRIVATE RECREATIONAL
08:26:27 FACILITY.
08:26:27 SO I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE WELL INTENDED, THAT YOU'RE GOING
08:26:31 TO BUILD A BOY SCOUT FACILITY, BLAH BLAH BLAH.
08:26:36 ARGUABLY IF YOU WENT DEFUNCT AND IT SAID PRIVATE
08:26:42 RECREATIONAL FACILITY, WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE US, YOU KNOW,
08:26:46 OPEN TO IN TERMS OF POSSIBILITIES, YOU KNOW, COULD IT BE A
08:26:52 PRIVATE CLUB WHICH ULTIMATELY COULD BE A LIQUOR CLUB, BLAH
08:26:57 BLAH BLAH.
08:26:57 I'M NOT RAISING THIS JUST MYSELF.
08:27:03 ONE OF THE LETTERS I SAW IN THE PILE MENTIONED THIS.
08:27:06 I GUESS MY QUESTION IS AND THIS RELATES BACK TO THE PREVIOUS
08:27:09 REZONING WE TALKED ABOUT.
08:27:12 I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE ON THIS ENTIRE SITE PLAN A BOW SCOUT
08:27:16 FACILITY OR YOUTH FACILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
08:27:22 I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND
08:27:26 READING IF WE COULD ADD ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO ATTEMPT TO
08:27:29 LIMIT THIS P.D. USE TO A SCOUT FACILITY OR A YOUTH FACILITY
08:27:35 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT WAY WE CAN GIVE THE
08:27:38 NEIGHBORHOOD COMFORT THAT THAT IS THE PERMANENT LONG-TERM
08:27:44 INTENT OF THIS REZONING.
08:27:49 >>CATE WELLS: IN RESPONSE TO MR. DINGFELDER'S QUESTION, I'D
08:27:53 REFER TO MARY SINCE YOU'RE ASKING FOR TESTIMONY FROM STAFF.
08:27:58 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE PROPOSED USE IS PRIVATE RECREATIONAL
08:28:04 FACILITY WHICH IS THE DEFINED USE IN OUR CODE WHICH IS A
08:28:09 PRIVATE INDOOR FACILITY PROVIDING INDOOR OR RECREATIONAL
08:28:11 ACTIVITIES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO COMMUNITY MEETING
08:28:15 HALLS, BOYS AND GIRLS QUOTE UNQUOTE, COUNTRY CLUBS, GOLF
08:28:21 COURSE SAID, RIDING STABLES AND TENNIS CLUBS.
08:28:24 THERE IS THIS VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF SUB-USES UNDER THE
08:28:30 PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY CLUB USE.
08:28:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO -- THANK YOU,
08:28:38 MARY.
08:28:39 MY QUESTION TO LEGAL IS COULD WE ADD A VERY MINOR, YOU KNOW,
08:28:45 CONDITION ON THERE THAT SPEAKS TO, YOU KNOW, BOY SCOUTS OR
08:28:49 YOUTH.
08:28:50 I'M SURE THAT THE PETITIONERS WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH
08:28:53 THAT, HAMILTON.
08:28:57 >> ABSOLUTELY.
08:28:58 I KNOW WE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
08:29:01 I ALSO MENTIONED, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MUTED STILL OR NO.
08:29:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE GOOD.
08:29:05 >> I WOULD ADD THAT FRIENDS OF 4 IS A 501-C3 ORGANIZATION.
08:29:13 IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY USE
08:29:17 OUR -- FOR CHARITABLE PURPOSES.
08:29:20 IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN AND WE WERE TO GO DEFUNCT THE
08:29:25 ASSETS WOULD HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION.
08:29:27 THEY CAN'T GO FOR PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE USE.
08:29:32 THEY WOULD HAVE TO -- OUR ASSETS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN PUBLIC
08:29:37 TRUST.
08:29:37 I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION.
08:29:39 I'M SURE NONE OF THE OTHER MEMBERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN, WE'D BE
08:29:43 HAPPY TO LIMIT IT TO SCOUTS BECAUSE THAT'S OUR INTENTION.
08:29:48 WE THOUGHT WE WERE CONSTRAINED BY WHAT THE CODE SAID THAT WE
08:29:51 WERE -- WE HAD OUR PRE-APPLICATION AND WE'RE TOLD -- WE
08:29:56 DESCRIBED WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AND THEY SAID YOU'D HAVE TO
08:29:58 COME IN AS A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
08:30:01 I THINK WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF WE CAN TO LIMIT IT.
08:30:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY THOUGHTS?
08:30:11 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
08:30:13 I'LL REFER BACK TO SECTION 70.45 WHICH ADDRESSES CITY
08:30:18 COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS.
08:30:22 THERE ALWAYS HAS TO BE A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PROPOSED
08:30:25 CONDITION AND THE IMPACT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU'RE INTENDED TO
08:30:29 USE THAT CONDITION TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED
08:30:31 REZONING.
08:30:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT, COUNCIL.
08:30:38 >> YES, SIR.
08:30:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING SECTION.
08:30:40 IT'S BEEN REFERENCED TWICE TONIGHT.
08:30:42 I THINK JUST AS AN INFORMATION TO COUNCIL, I'LL REFER
08:30:46 THAT -- I'LL GET YOU A COPY OF THAT SECTION SO YOU HAVE IT
08:30:48 FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
08:30:51 ALSO THE LIMITATION AS STAFF TESTIFIED TO IS VERY SPECIFIC.
08:30:59 JUST A REMINDER THAT IF YOU PUT THIS KIND OF CONDITION ON
08:31:04 THERE, EVEN IF THEY AGREE TO DO THAT, IT -- IT -- IT
08:31:09 ENCUMBERS THE PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT THE WAY THEY HAVE TO DO
08:31:13 IT, IF THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT PURCHASER THEY HAVE TO COME IN
08:31:16 FOR A CHANGE OF USE.
08:31:17 I DON'T WANT TO TESTIFY TO THAT.
08:31:19 MAYBE MARY WILL CONFIRM THIS.
08:31:21 THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT OWNER IS NOT NECESSARILY
08:31:24 BOUND BY IT.
08:31:25 IF THEY ARE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED SOMETHING PROBLEMATIC
08:31:28 FOR THE CITY DOWN THE ROAD.
08:31:31 I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE.
08:31:32 I'M JUST POINTING -- I WANT TO ASK MARY TO EITHER CONFIRM OR
08:31:36 CORRECT ME AS TO WHAT I JUST STATED WITH REGARD TO STAGES OF
08:31:40 USE FOR SUBSEQUENT OWNER.
08:31:43 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES.
08:31:46 ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND, NOT WITH OWNERSHIP.
08:31:48 SO YEAH.
08:31:49 IF YOU LIMIT THE USE TO ONE USE, ONLY BOY SCOUTS, THAT'S THE
08:31:53 ONLY USE THAT CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE
08:31:57 TO RE-ZONE THE PROPERTY AGAIN AND TO ADD ADDITIONAL USES AND
08:32:03 GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURE AGAIN.
08:32:05 I PROFESSIONALLY DON'T RECOMMEND THAT AT ALL.
08:32:12 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:32:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:32:15 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:32:18 ALL RIGHT.
08:32:18 IF NO -- COUNCILMAN CITRO.
08:32:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
08:32:24 GENTLEMEN, WE ALL KNOW THE GREAT THINGS THAT THE BOY SCOUTS
08:32:26 HAVE DONE AND GREAT HISTORY YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT THIS
08:32:30 COUNCIL HAS GIVEN OUT MANY ACCOMMODATIONS TO EAGLE SCOUTS.
08:32:35 I PERSONALLY HAVE GIVEN ONE, AND HOPEFULLY WHEN HIS BROTHER
08:32:39 GETS HIS EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT FINISHED, I WILL GIVE ANOTHER
08:32:43 ONE.
08:32:46 MY (INAUDIBLE) HAS ALSO GIVEN MANY ACCOLADES TO EAGLE
08:32:50 SCOUTS.
08:32:52 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:32:55 YOU TOUCHED ON YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION.
08:32:58 THE PRIOR USAGE THERE, I BELIEVE IT'S A LIVING FACILITY AND
08:33:01 ONLY THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN BED AT AN EARLY HOUR.
08:33:06 WHAT HOURS OF OPERATIONS?
08:33:07 WHAT TIME WILL YOU STOP YOUR MEETINGS IN THE EVENINGS?
08:33:12 >> SO TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RANGE OF KIDS IN THERE
08:33:17 ON DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK THAT RANGE ANYWHERE FROM
08:33:20 KINDERGARTEN TO, YOU KNOW, HIGH SCHOOL.
08:33:24 FOR OUR OLDEST SCOUTS THE LIKELY WE'RE LIKELY TO BE THERE IS
08:33:28 8:30 AT NIGHT.
08:33:30 IT'S CERTAINLY CONCEIVABLE A MEETING ENDS AT 8:30 AND ME AND
08:33:34 ANOTHER LEADER ARE STILL TALKING IN THE PARKING LOT AT A
08:33:36 LITTLE BEFORE 9:00.
08:33:37 BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE LATEST.
08:33:40 YOU GO TO THE YOUNGER SCOUTS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GONE LONG
08:33:44 BEFORE THAT ON THE DAYS THEY'RE THERE.
08:33:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GREAT.
08:33:48 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS LIVING IN HARMONY.
08:33:51 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
08:33:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
08:33:55 >> I'LL JUST WRAP UP THE -- MY OTHER COMMENT.
08:34:02 I KNOW THAT IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY UNLIKELY AND I AGREE WITH
08:34:08 MR. NEWCOMB AND THE REST OF THEM THAT HOPEFULLY THIS TROOP
08:34:11 WILL BE AROUND FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS AND THIS WILL BE THE
08:34:14 BUILDING THAT THEY'LL USE.
08:34:15 I GUESS I WON'T GET HUNG UP ON THAT.
08:34:19 THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS.
08:34:24 UNDER THIS USE IT COULD BE AN ELK CLUB OR MOOSE LODGE
08:34:29 BECAUSE I BELIEVE THOSE CLUBS COULD ALSO FALL INTO THE SAME
08:34:33 CATEGORY.
08:34:35 I WON'T BE UPSET ABOUT IT BASED ON THE WISE LEGAL ADVICE WE
08:34:39 HAVE TODAY.
08:34:40 I WILL COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE DESIGN, MR. JONES, ET CETERA.
08:34:45 ALSO ON YOUR EGRESS AND INGRESS, I THINK IT'S MUCH SAFER.
08:34:52 SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUGGESTED YOU COME OUT ON THE
08:34:56 CURB ON SAN MIGUEL WHICH I THINK IS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.
08:35:03 I THINK COMING OUT ON CLEARVIEW IS THE RIGHT PLACE.
08:35:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:35:09 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:35:10 GREAT.
08:35:11 ANYBODY FROM PUBLIC COMMENT REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS
08:35:14 ITEM?
08:35:15 ITEM NUMBER 8?
08:35:16 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
08:35:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE TAMPA
08:35:20 CONVENTION CENTER?
08:35:24 >> THIS IS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
08:35:25 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
08:35:27 THANK YOU.
08:35:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:35:29 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
08:35:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND A
08:35:33 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
08:35:35 >> I'LL SECOND AND I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THERE IS
08:35:38 A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE PARKLAND ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:35:44 THEY CALL THEMSELVES THE CIVIC CLUB IN SUPPORT OF THIS
08:35:47 PROPERTY.
08:35:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:35:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:35:51 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
08:35:54 DINGFELDER.
08:35:55 ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:35:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
08:36:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:36:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:36:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:36:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
08:36:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:36:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
08:36:13 >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
08:36:16 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:36:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I MAY?
08:36:19 MR. CHAIR.
08:36:21 JUST -- THANK YOU.
08:36:23 JUST BEFORE, I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK DURING THE MEETING ON MY
08:36:25 FEELINGS ON SCOUTS.
08:36:26 I --
08:36:29 >> WE JUST VOTE ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE?
08:36:33 >> SORRY, OKAY.
08:36:33 THANK YOU.
08:36:35 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
08:36:36 >> WHAT WAS THAT?
08:36:36 WHAT WAS THE VOTE?
08:36:38 >> IT'S A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
08:36:42 >> OH, BOY.
08:36:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOW WE HAVE TO VOTE.
08:36:46 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
08:36:48 >> SINCE WE DID THE ROLL CALL, OKAY, DISREGARD.
08:36:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:36:51 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS?
08:36:52 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
08:36:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE THEY ASKING FOR ANY WAIVERS?
08:37:06 STAFF?
08:37:08 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
08:37:09 THEY'RE ASKING FOR SEVERAL WAIVERS.
08:37:11 IT'S ON YOUR STAFF REPORT.
08:37:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
08:37:15 I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE -- YOU KNOW WHAT?
08:37:19 I DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THE FULL -- I -- AS MUCH AS I SUPPORT
08:37:24 IT, ASK SOMEBODY ELSE TO READ IT.
08:37:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:37:28 COUNCILMAN CITRO?
08:37:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE IT.
08:37:32 FILE NUMBER REZ20-73 PUBLIC HEARING ON APPLICATION OF 1080
08:37:42 SOUTH CLEARVIEW AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, FROM
08:37:45 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION P.D. PLANNED
08:37:48 DEVELOPMENT TO P.D. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PRIVATE RECREATIONAL
08:37:51 FACILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS THE PETITIONERS MET
08:37:59 THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND THE DEVELOPMENT SHOWN ON THE SITE
08:38:01 PLAN IT ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION.
08:38:04 THE REQUEST OF WAIVERS WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR
08:38:08 INJURE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS AND THOSE PROPERTIES WILL BE
08:38:11 AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS AND WITH ALL WAIVERS INCLUDED.
08:38:16 >> SECOND
08:38:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WAS THE SECOND?
08:38:18 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND.
08:38:21 >> I WASN'T SECONDING.
08:38:22 SOMEONE GOT THE SECOND BUT I WANT TO AGREE THAT I THINK YOU
08:38:25 OUGHT TO SAY THE PHONE NUMBER AND I BELIEVE YOU OUGHT TO SAY
08:38:30 WHY -- THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVE AND THE WAIVERS ON YOUR SHEET
08:38:34 IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE STRONG.
08:38:39 MY OPINION.
08:38:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
08:38:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS SECONDING AND JOE DID MENTION THE
08:38:44 FILE NUMBER REZ20-73.
08:38:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I BELIEVE THERE IS ALSO A REVISION
08:38:53 STREET THAT IS FACILITATED WITH THAT.
08:38:57 >> AND INCLUDE THE REVISION.
08:38:58 THANK YOU, MARTY.
08:39:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:39:02 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH A SECOND FROM
08:39:05 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
08:39:07 THIS IS A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO READ THE ORDINANCE.
08:39:09 GO AHEAD WITH ROLL CALL.
08:39:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
08:39:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:39:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:39:22 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:39:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
08:39:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:39:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
08:39:30 >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
08:39:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD NOVEMBER 5 AT 9:30
08:39:35 A.M.
08:39:37 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:39:40 >> NOW IF I MAY, COUNCIL?
08:39:41 I WANTED TO SAY REALLY QUICK NOW THAT WE'RE FINISHED AND MY
08:39:45 APOLOGIES FOR THAT BEFORE.
08:39:46 I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL Y'ALL WITH THE SCOUTS FOR ALL THE
08:39:49 WONDERFUL WORK YOU DO.
08:39:51 MY SON DID CUB SCOUTS FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND, YOU KNOW,
08:39:55 SOME OF THE BEST FRIENDS HE HAS NO HE GOT FROM SCOUTS AND
08:39:59 SCOUTING IS ALL ABOUT VALUES.
08:40:02 THAT'S WHY I THINK ALL OF US ARE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF
08:40:06 SCOUTING.
08:40:07 IT'S JUST A GREAT PROGRAM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, AND IT REALLY
08:40:11 IMPLEMENTS GOOD VALUES IN YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE NEED MORE OF
08:40:15 IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY.
08:40:17 THANK YOU GUYS.
08:40:18 >> AMEN.
08:40:19 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:40:20 APPRECIATE THAT.
08:40:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD-NIGHT.
08:40:30 ALL RIGHT.
08:40:30 ITEM NUMBER 9.
08:40:31 WE HAVE MR. ROBLES BACK ON.
08:40:33 WE'LL SWEAR HIM IN AGAIN.
08:40:36 THERE WE ARE.
08:40:39 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
08:40:40 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH
08:40:42 AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:40:44 >> I WILL.
08:40:45 >> THANK YOU.
08:40:46 THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON
08:40:48 THIS ITEM.
08:40:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:40:50 GO AHEAD, MARY.
08:40:52 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
08:40:54 THIS IS CASE REZ20-59.
08:40:56 A REZONING REQUEST FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL TO P.D.
08:41:00 FOR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT 5501 NORTH 15th
08:41:04 STREET.
08:41:05 I DEFER TO DAVID HAY PLEASE.
08:41:10 >> CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
08:41:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
08:41:20 >> THERE WE GO.
08:41:20 GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
08:41:22 DAVID HAY WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
08:41:24 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
08:41:25 THIS NEXT CASE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
08:41:31 DISTRICT AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
08:41:35 NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:41:36 IT IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN
08:41:40 VILLAGE.
08:41:41 THERE IS A POLICY DIRECTION WHICH GUIDES DEVELOPMENT IN THE
08:41:44 URBAN VILLAGES.
08:41:48 THEIR SPECIFIC POLICY LANGUAGE IN THE COMP PLAN REGARDING
08:41:52 URBAN VILLAGES.
08:41:53 THERE IS ONE CORRECTION.
08:41:55 THERE IS A REFERENCE TO THE WEST URBAN VILLAGE THAT WAS
08:41:59 INCLUDED IN THE REPORT AND THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
08:42:02 ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION IS.
08:42:04 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT.
08:42:07 THERE IS TRANSIT JUST TO THE SOUTH ON EASTHILL AVENUE.
08:42:14 EASTHILL AVENUE IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
08:42:18 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITH AN EVACUATION ZONE AND
08:42:22 THE CLOSEST PARK IS GIDDENS PARK WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A
08:42:26 HALF MILE TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:42:30 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL -- YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL USES
08:42:33 TO THE SOUTH ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AND THEN IT GOES INTO
08:42:38 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED ON THE NORTH.
08:42:40 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE KIND OF AN ACCESS ROAD TO THE WALMART
08:42:47 SUPER CENTER ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
08:42:50 THIS IS THE PARKING LOT FOR THAT.
08:42:52 HERE WE HAVE THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
08:42:56 THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THIS PROPERTY IN THE TAN COLOR IS
08:42:59 THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
08:43:03 IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH AND AT THE END WHERE THE WALMART IS
08:43:09 IN THE RED IS ALL THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
08:43:12 THAT ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF THE CI USES.
08:43:17 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MOHAWK THERE IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
08:43:20 THAT DOES ALLOW CONSIDERATION FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES UP TO
08:43:26 COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
08:43:26 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
08:43:29 FOUND NO-ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:43:33 THIS PORTION OF NORTH 15th STREET HAS AN EXISTING DENSITY OF
08:43:36 6.75 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS UNDER THE DENSITY
08:43:41 ALLOWED UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
08:43:46 THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
08:43:50 RESIDENCES AT 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
08:43:52 THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND USE
08:43:56 CATEGORY.
08:43:57 ALSO THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH POLICY DIRECTION IN THE
08:44:01 PLAN REGARDING INFILL HOUSING.
08:44:07 THE SITE IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE URBAN VILLAGE POLICIES
08:44:10 THAT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
08:44:13 IN CONCLUSION THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD BE DEVELOPED
08:44:16 (INAUDIBLE) HEIGHT AND SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL
08:44:18 USES.
08:44:20 PROPOSED REZONING SUPPORTS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:44:22 IT WOULD NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
08:44:26 THIS PORTION OF THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:44:31 FURTHERMORE THE REQUEST WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING
08:44:33 OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THAT IDENTIFIED URBAN VILLAGE.
08:44:38 BASED ON ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
08:44:40 STAFF DOES RECOMMEND TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THE PROPOSED
08:44:43 PLANNING DEVELOPMENT FOR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BE FOUND
08:44:47 CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
08:44:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
08:44:52 THANK YOU.
08:44:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:44:54 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
08:44:55 CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
08:45:02 THANK YOU.
08:45:02 AGAIN, THIS IS A P.D. REQUEST FOR DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
08:45:06 RESIDENTIAL.
08:45:09 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5501 NORTH 15th STREET AND IT'S
08:45:13 CURRENTLY VACANT.
08:45:14 IT'S AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 15th STREET AND EAST MOHAWK
08:45:19 AVENUE.
08:45:19 THE SURROUNDING USES ARE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE
08:45:24 NORTH, EAST, WEST AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS REZONING DISTRICT AND
08:45:28 A RETAIL USE TO THE SOUTH ACROSS EAST MOHAWK AVENUE AND
08:45:32 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING DISTRICT.
08:45:37 THE ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IS 50
08:45:42 FEET WIDE AND 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
08:45:44 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO LOTS THAT ARE 45 FEET WIDE
08:45:49 AND 100 FEET DEEP FOR A TOTAL AREA OF 4500 SQUARE FEET.
08:45:55 THAT 45 FEET WIDE AND 4500 SQUARE FEET IS SMALLER THAN THE
08:45:58 SMALLEST EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT IN THE CITY OF SEMINOLE
08:46:03 HEIGHTS SO THEREFORE THE ONLY WAY TO ASK FOR LOTS OF THIS
08:46:10 SIZE IS THROUGH THE P.D. PROCESS.
08:46:17 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AGAIN TWO
08:46:24 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
08:46:26 100 FEET WIDE.
08:46:28 45 FEET EACH IN WIDTH.
08:46:32 FIVE WAYS COMING OFF NORTH 15th STREET.
08:46:41 THEY HAVE SHOWN ALL THE REQUIRED TREE TABLES AND HERE ARE
08:46:45 BUILDING ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR MASSIVE
08:46:48 SCALE ONLY.
08:46:50 THERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
08:46:52 THERE WERE NO LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS WITHIN
08:46:58 1,000 FEET.
08:47:01 IT'S JUST A BLOCK TO THE NORTH OF EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
08:47:05 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE RUNS EAST/WEST AND IS THE SEMINOLE
08:47:11 INTENSIVE DISTRICT AND THIS IS JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE
08:47:14 BOUNDARY LINE COMING INTO THE RS ZONING DISTRICT TO SEMINOLE
08:47:18 HEIGHTS.
08:47:20 BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING TO CREATE LOTS LESS THAN 50 FEET IN
08:47:25 WIDTH WE HAVE DONE THE ANALYSIS.
08:47:26 THIS LOT IS NOT PART OF A PLATTED SUBDIVISION.
08:47:30 IT'S A MEETS AND BOUNDS LEGAL DISTRIBUTION.
08:47:32 HOWEVER, WE ANALYZE THE OVERALL AREA INCLUDED 264 ZONING
08:47:39 LOTS.
08:47:39 100% OF WHICH ARE LOTS 50 FEET OR GREATER.
08:47:44 PURSUANT TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THE SUBJECT LOT
08:47:47 CONTAINS SEVEN TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
08:47:49 100% OF WHICH ARE ALL 50 FEET OR GREATER AS WELL.
08:47:53 SIMILARLY FOR THE BLOCK FACE AND SUBJECT LOT ALL LOTS ARE AT
08:47:58 LEAST 50 FEET WIDE.
08:48:00 NO LOTS IN THE STUDY AREA.
08:48:02 NOR IN THE BLOCK THAT ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET WIDE.
08:48:08 YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP ANY LOT THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN 50
08:48:11 FEET WIDE WOULD BE THE SLIGHT KIND OF GRAYISH BLUE COLOR,
08:48:18 LIGHT BLUE OR LIGHT GRAY.
08:48:20 THERE IS NO PROPERTIES THAT DIP DOWN TO A LOT WIDTH THAT IS
08:48:23 SIMILAR TO THE 45-FOOT LOT THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
08:48:30 HERE IS A PHOTOGRAPH.
08:48:32 I APOLOGIZE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
08:48:34 THIS IS A VACANT BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
08:48:36 THE BACK OF A RETAIL OR AUTOMOTIVE USE IN THE SOUTH.
08:48:41 TO THE WEST IS A DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE AND TO THE
08:48:44 EAST IS A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
08:48:48 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND THIS
08:48:51 INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
08:48:54 AGAIN REFERENCE MY FINDINGS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FOR THE
08:48:58 PLANNING AND ZONING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RELATED TO THE
08:49:01 EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
08:49:03 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:49:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:49:10 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
08:49:11 THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
08:49:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU GIVE ME THE NUMBERS AGAIN ON THE 50
08:49:16 FOOT LOTS IN THE AREA?
08:49:20 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THERE ARE NO LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 50
08:49:22 FEET WIDE.
08:49:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO LOTS.
08:49:26 >> NONE.
08:49:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
08:49:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'VE HEARD ENOUGH.
08:49:35 THANK YOU.
08:49:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:49:37 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:49:37 COUNCILMAN -- SORRY.
08:49:38 MR. ROBLES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT.
08:49:43 >> YES.
08:49:43 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:49:45 MARY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:49:46 I JUST IF I COULD BRING UP TWO EXHIBITS ON MY SCREEN.
08:49:53 SO IF YOU GUYS WILL JUST BEAR WITH ME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
08:49:56 BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND.
08:50:05 IN RESEARCHING THIS PROPERTY YOU'LL SEE THE SUBJECT
08:50:08 PROPERTY.
08:50:09 IT APPEARS TO US THAT THERE WAS A TEN-FOOT TAKING TO
08:50:14 CONSTRUCT WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE RIGHT OUT TURN LANE ON THAT
08:50:19 PORTION OF MOHAWK TO THE SIDE.
08:50:23 THAT APPEARS TO BE A 10-FOOT TAKING.
08:50:26 WE DID RESEARCH WITH BARBARA LYNCH WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:50:32 UNFORTUNATELY THE -- SOME OF THE OLD DEEDS WHERE THEY DID
08:50:40 SOME OF THESE TAKINGS, SHE CAN NOT FIND THAT TAKING BUT
08:50:44 OBVIOUSLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARCEL YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE
08:50:50 WAS APPROXIMATELY TEN FEET REMOVED OFF OF THAT SO WHAT
08:50:54 I'M -- WOULD GRATEFULLY ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS THAT IS
08:50:59 TO GIVE ME THE CREDIT FOR THE TURN LANE TAKING WHICH WOULD
08:51:04 HAVE GOTTEN ME TO A BIT TO 100 FEET IN LIEU OF THE 90 FEET
08:51:10 WHICH CREATED THE 45-FOOT WIDE LOTS.
08:51:16 ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS ONE POINT TO NOTE THERE AND MARY, I
08:51:21 DON'T JUST THAT YOU COVERED THAT, BUT AT THE LAST MINUTE
08:51:25 NATURAL RESOURCES ASKED US TO SUBMIT TWO ALTERNATIVE OR TWO
08:51:35 ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS FOR A ONE 28-INCH TREE.
08:51:38 WE HAVE SUBMITTED THAT TO NATURAL RESOURCES AND I DO HAVE
08:51:43 COPIES TONIGHT IF YOU WISH TO LOOK.
08:51:47 IF YOU LOOK WITHIN THE REPORT, MARY'S REPORT, IT DOES SPEAK
08:51:49 TO THAT.
08:51:51 THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO NATURAL RESOURCES.
08:51:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:51:56 ANY QUESTIONS?
08:51:58 OH, GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:52:00 >> I HAVE NO MORE FOR MY PRESENTATION.
08:52:01 THANK YOU.
08:52:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
08:52:03 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE MUTED, SIR.
08:52:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:52:17 I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF OR LEGAL.
08:52:20 I DO BELIEVE THERE IS SOMEWHERE IN THE CODE THAT SPEAKS TO
08:52:23 IF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY SUBJECT TO A TAKING
08:52:29 THAT CREATES SOME TYPE OF EXCEPTION IN TERMS OF ZONING AND
08:52:34 THAT SORT OF THING.
08:52:35 ANYBODY HELP ME OUT, MARY?
08:52:38 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CODE.
08:52:40 I CAN'T CITE THE CODE SECTION.
08:52:42 IT RELATES TO SETBACKS OF AN EXISTING BUILDING WHEN THERE IS
08:52:46 A TAKING WHICH WOULD MAKE THAT BUILDING NONCONFORMING.
08:52:50 IT'S NOT RELATED TO FURTHER SUBDIVIDE A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
08:52:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
08:53:01 SO DID -- LET'S JUST ASSUME THERE IS A TAKING, MARY, OR
08:53:06 THERE HAD BEEN A TAKING.
08:53:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME STOP YOU THERE, MR. DINGFELDER.
08:53:13 I WANT YOU TO BE CLEAR.
08:53:14 THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE IN REGARD TO THE
08:53:18 TAKING.
08:53:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
08:53:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO EITHER THE STAFF IS ABLE TO OPINE TO
08:53:24 THAT OR IF THE PETITIONER CERTAINLY HAS ANY EVIDENCE, ONE
08:53:29 WAY OR THE OTHER, THEN THE QUESTION THEN COMES IN AS
08:53:33 ACTUALLY WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THAT.
08:53:34 BUT CERTAINLY THE DETERMINATION -- THE TAKING HAS CERTAINLY
08:53:39 DEFINITIONS AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT MEETS THE
08:53:41 DEFINITION OF WHAT TOOK PLACE AS BEING A TAKING.
08:53:43 OR WAS THERE (INAUDIBLE).
08:53:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
08:53:46 I WON'T ASSUME ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
08:53:48 LET ME JUST FURTHER MY LEGAL INQUIRY.
08:53:54 IS IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, MARY OR CATE, THAT SPEAKS TO IF A
08:53:58 TAKING CREATES A NON-CONFORMING USE?
08:54:05 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NOT THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH.
08:54:07 AGAIN, I WOULD -- I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WAS A TAKING.
08:54:11 A TAKING IS A LEGAL --
08:54:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, AN IMMINENT DOMAIN.
08:54:18 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IT COULD HAVE BEEN A RIGHT-OF-WAY
08:54:19 ACQUISITION FOR ROAD WIDENING.
08:54:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
08:54:22 THAT'S HOW I'M USING THE TERM TAKING.
08:54:24 AN EMINENT DOMAIN.
08:54:25 I DON'T MEAN A, YOU KNOW --
08:54:28 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I'M CAUTIONING YOU THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
08:54:30 FOR ZONING LAW.
08:54:32 >>CATE WELLS: I THINK UNTIL THERE IS EVIDENT OF ETCHED TO
08:54:36 SPECULATE WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.
08:54:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROBLES OFFERED SOME EVIDENCE.
08:54:41 I DON'T KNOW HOW CONCLUSIVE IT IS.
08:54:43 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM TRANSPORTATION ON THIS CALL STILL?
08:54:54 NO?
08:54:56 MARY?
08:54:57 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE?
08:54:58 TRANSPORTATION?
08:55:01 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: SOMEBODY FROM TRANSPORTATION SHOULD BE
08:55:02 AVAILABLE DURING THE ENTIRE MEETING.
08:55:07 >> MADAM CLERK, IS SOMEBODY FROM TRANSPORTATION REGISTERED
08:55:09 ONLINE?
08:55:12 >> IS IT JONATHAN SCOTT?
08:55:14 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES.
08:55:15 >> YES.
08:55:15 HE IS HERE.
08:55:16 HE IS STILL ON.
08:55:17 JUST NEEDS TO UNMUTE AND SHOW HIS VIDEO.
08:55:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PULL HIM UP PLEASE FOR COUNCIL.
08:55:25 >> THIS IS -- MR. CHAIR?
08:55:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:55:30 >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, MS. SAMANIEGO, YOU ALLUDED TO THERE IS
08:55:37 NO SAY RULING IN REFERENCE TO THIS ALLEGED TAKING AS IT
08:55:44 RELATES TO THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, CORRECT?
08:55:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
08:55:52 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION DID NOT MAKE A NONCONFORMING
08:55:56 LOT.
08:55:56 THIS LOT IS CONFORMING WITH THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT.
08:55:59 HE IS REQUESTING TO FURTHER SUBDIVIDE AND CREATE TWO LOTS
08:56:02 THAT DON'T CONFORM.
08:56:04 >> AGAIN, ALL OF THE LOTS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA ARE 50 OR
08:56:09 GREATER, CORRECT?
08:56:10 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
08:56:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:56:18 DO WE HAVE JONATHAN SCOTT ON THE LINE?
08:56:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
08:56:24 I'M GOOD.
08:56:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:56:26 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:56:29 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:56:31 ALL RIGHT.
08:56:33 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
08:56:37 ITEM NUMBER 9.
08:56:38 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
08:56:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYONE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER
08:56:43 TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 9, REZ20-59?
08:56:48 >> PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
08:56:49 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
08:56:51 THANK YOU.
08:56:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:56:54 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
08:56:58 ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE APPLICANT?
08:57:01 >> YES, IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE FURTHER POINT.
08:57:04 UNDER THE FORM BASE CODE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, JUST IN
08:57:11 GENERAL CHARACTER, 90 FOOT LOTS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ARE NOT
08:57:15 CHARACTERISTIC OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
08:57:16 THERE ARE, HOWEVER, A SUBSTANTIAL LOTS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
08:57:23 UNDER THE LOT OF RECORD THAT WERE PLATTED AS UNDER 50 FEET.
08:57:28 I REALIZE THEY'RE NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, MARRIAGE
08:57:32 FORMULA OF LOTS BUT THERE ARE LOTS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THAT
08:57:36 ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET.
08:57:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:57:43 >> AND I DON'T -- THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE LOTS, I DON'T
08:57:46 THINK SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE ANALYSIS AS WELL.
08:57:49 BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IF IT PLEASE, I'LL ASK THE COUNCIL'S
08:57:55 FAVOR IN APPROVING THIS.
08:58:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:58:00 ANYTHING ELSE?
08:58:02 >> NO, SIR.
08:58:03 THAT'S IT FOR ME.
08:58:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:58:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
08:58:05 ANYTHING ELSE FROM -- MS. WELLS?
08:58:07 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
08:58:09 JUST BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION THIS EVENING ABOUT
08:58:12 REGULATORY TAKINGS, I WANTED TO POINT COUNCIL TO SECTION
08:58:17 27-295 OF THE ZONING CODE THAT'S ENTITLED "NONCONFORMING
08:58:24 LOTS".
08:58:25 IF YOU GO TO SUBSECTION B-2 AND I'LL READ IT DIRECTLY IT
08:58:30 SAYS COMBINATION NOT REQUIRED FOR NONCONFORMITY CREATED
08:58:34 PUBLIC TAKING OR COURT ORDER FOR THE NON-CONFORMING LOTS
08:58:37 CREATED BY PUBLIC TAKING, ACTION OR AS A RESULT OF A COURT
08:58:41 ORDER COMBINATION OF THE LOTS SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED SO AS
08:58:45 MARY TESTIFIED EARLIER THIS EVENING, THE ISSUE WITH REGARD
08:58:48 TO REGULATORY TAKINGS DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO THIS SITUATION
08:58:52 AS THE LAW BEFORE YOU IS CON -- LOT BEFORE YOU IS
08:58:56 CONFORMING.
08:58:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE.
08:58:59 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
08:59:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:59:06 IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
08:59:07 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
08:59:09 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:59:10 ANY OBJECTION?
08:59:13 IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTION THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
08:59:18 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RAID ITEM NUMBER 9?
08:59:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS
08:59:27 PARTICULAR ITEM.
08:59:28 SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MOVE.
08:59:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:59:31 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON?
08:59:33 WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM NUMBER 9?
08:59:35 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
08:59:36 I'LL READ IT.
08:59:41 FILE NUMBER REZ20-59 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION OF AN
08:59:45 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 5501
08:59:49 NORTH 15th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
08:59:53 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-RS
08:59:58 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE -FAMILY TO SH-PD
09:00:02 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SIGIL
09:00:04 FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:00:07 >> SECOND.
09:00:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD IN REGARD
09:00:11 TO LANGUAGE ABOUT THE ZONING OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN?
09:00:19 DO YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU?
09:00:26 >>BILL CARLSON: TRYING TO PULL SOME THINGS UP HERE.
09:00:28 I THINK THAT THE PETITIONER MET THEIR BURDEN OF SHOWING
09:00:34 CONSISTENCY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA UPGRADING THE
09:00:39 LANDSCAPE OF THE AREA AND CONFORMING TO THE LAND USE
09:00:45 POLICIES.
09:00:48 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT TO ADD?
09:00:55 >> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR
09:00:57 HOUSING.
09:00:58 I UNDERSTAND THE NEED BUT THIS IS MY OPINION JUST THE
09:01:01 SPLITTING OF A LOT WITH A DIFFERENT ATTACHMENT TO IT.
09:01:05 BUT IT'S GOT TO STOP IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT 49 FOOT LOTS AND
09:01:10 47 FOOT LOTS IN WEST TAMPA NOT ALLOWED ANYWHERE ELSE.
09:01:15 I'LL BE (INAUDIBLE) FROM NOW ON UNTIL MY HAIR COMES BACK.
09:01:18 WE GOT TO TREAT THE CITY IN TOTAL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
09:01:22 EITHER NO MORE SPLITTING ANYWHERE OR SPLITTING EVERYWHERE.
09:01:25 IT CAN NOT BE DONE THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT.
09:01:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:01:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
09:01:39 SECOND FROM VIERA.
09:01:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:01:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:01:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:01:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
09:01:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
09:01:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
09:01:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:01:54 >> MOTION CARRIES WITH MIRANDA, DINGFELDER AND GUDES VOTING
09:01:58 NO.
09:01:59 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 5 AT
09:02:02 9:30 A.M.
09:00:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:01:26 THANK YOU.
09:01:27 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 10.
09:01:30 MR. BRICKLEMYER, I WOULD ASSUME, IF YOU WOULD TURN ON
09:01:36 YOUR CAMERA AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
09:01:48 AND WE HAVE A DAVID BELL.
09:01:53 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR ITEM NUMBER 10?
09:02:00 MR. BELL, YOU ARE MUTED.
09:02:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE TO
09:02:06 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
09:02:08 >> YES.
09:02:10 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
09:02:12 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
09:02:15 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:02:17 >> YES.
09:02:17 >> YES.
09:02:19 >>THE CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY
09:02:21 WRITTEN ITEMS ON THIS OFFICE.
09:02:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BRICKLEMYER, ARE YOU UNMUTED?
09:02:26 >> I THINK SO.
09:02:27 CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?
09:02:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:02:31 >> THEY TELL ME THE ORGANIZER HAD MUTED ME.
09:02:34 GO AHEAD GO AHEAD, MARY.
09:02:35 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: A REZONING REQUEST FOR 624 SOUTH
09:02:39 MACDILL AVENUE FROM PD TO PD TO MEDICAL OFFICE AND
09:02:43 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
09:02:44 I REFER TO MR. HEY.
09:02:46 >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
09:02:50 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
09:02:51 WE REMAIN IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
09:02:56 NEXT CASE, MOWER SPECIFICALLY THE PALMA CEIA PINES
09:03:01 NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:03:02 THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED IN PROXIMITY TO THE SITE AT
09:03:06 SOUTH MACDILL AND WEST SWANN AVENUE.
09:03:09 THAT'S SERVED BY HART ROUTE 19.
09:03:11 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC PARK IS SIMMS PARK ABOUT ONE FOURTH OF
09:03:16 A MILE TO THE SOUTHEAST AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED
09:03:18 WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
09:03:24 HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL.
09:03:26 THIS SUBJECT SITE, HAS GOT MacDILL, THERE'S A BUNCH
09:03:30 OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES GATHERED THROUGHOUT, NORTH OF
09:03:35 SWANN, SOUTH OF SWANN IT IMMEDIATELY GOES DOWN TO A MORE
09:03:40 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PATTERN.
09:03:46 DUPLEXES BEHIND THIS AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY NORTH OF
09:03:51 SWANN, EITHER TOWNHOMES, OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, A WHOLE
09:03:56 MIXTURE OF USES.
09:03:59 HERE WE HAVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND YOU CAN SEE THE
09:04:03 SUBJECT SITE, TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS,
09:04:07 APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THE PARCEL, THE WESTERN PART, .22
09:04:17 ACRES, IS ACTUALLY MIXED USE 35 IN THIS COLOR.
09:04:28 RESIDENTIAL 35, THAT'S ALSO .22 ACRES.
09:04:33 BUT IT'S ALSO REZ 35 IN THIS BROWN COLOR.
09:04:38 THEN YOU GET BACK TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN
09:04:43 BLUE.
09:04:45 IN RED IS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
09:04:47 THIS IS I BELIEVE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
09:04:53 YOU IMMEDIATELY DROP DOWN TO A RESIDENTIAL 6,
09:04:58 RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN IT STARTS PICKING UP AGAIN SOUTH OF
09:05:01 MORRISON TO RESIDENTIAL 10, FUTURE LAND USE PATTERN.
09:05:11 THE PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDING IS A USE THAT CAN BE
09:05:14 CONSIDERED WITH COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CATEGORY.
09:05:19 AGAIN THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THAT R-35.
09:05:22 PARKING IS PLACED WITHIN THE AREA IN THE REAR, DESIGNATED
09:05:27 RESIDENTIAL 35 AND THE PROPOSED OFFICE STRUCTURE IS
09:05:29 WITHIN THE PORTION AT THE FRONT OF THE SITE DESIGNATED
09:05:34 MIXED USE 35.
09:05:35 AND AGAIN, THIS AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY MIXED IN PATTERN
09:05:40 WITH COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES.
09:05:43 GIVEN THE COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OF THIS PORTION OF SOUTH
09:05:45 MACDILL CORRIDOR, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS
09:05:48 DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE
09:05:51 WITHIN THE SIZE AND SCALE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT.
09:05:57 PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDING IS LOCATE WITHIN A MIXED USE
09:06:01 LAND CATEGORY.
09:06:02 THERE IS SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTION WITHIN THE PLAN THAT
09:06:05 TALKS ABOUT TO FORM OF THAT MIXED USE.
09:06:07 PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDING IS PLACED CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK
09:06:10 ON SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE.
09:06:11 PARKING IS AGAIN IN THE REAR.
09:06:16 BUILDINGS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC REALM.
09:06:22 THIS BUILDING IS ORIENTED AND ACTIVATES GROUND FLOOR
09:06:28 TOWARDS MacDILL.
09:06:29 AND IT ADDRESSES THOSE POLICIES.
09:06:35 IT ADDRESSES POLICIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND
09:06:38 ACCESSIBILITY.
09:06:39 THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY
09:06:41 ALONG THE NORTH PORTION OF THE SITE THAT CONNECTS THE
09:06:44 PARKING LOT TO THE BUILDING ENTRANCE AND THE SIDEWALK ON
09:06:47 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE.
09:06:48 THIS PATHWAY WILL PROVIDE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE ACCESS TO
09:06:53 PEDESTRIANS, THUS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH POLICY
09:06:56 DIRECTION AND PLANS.
09:06:57 BASED ON ALL THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DOES
09:06:59 RECOMMEND TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT BOTH PLANNED
09:07:02 DEVELOPMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF
09:07:04 THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:07:08 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09:07:10 THANK YOU.
09:07:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:12 MARY?
09:07:28 MARY, YOU ARE MUTED.
09:07:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: SORRY, SIR.
09:07:34 THE DEVELOPMENT IS PD, THE EXISTING PD WAS REZONED LAST
09:07:38 YEAR IN 2019, CASE REZ 19-80.
09:07:42 THEY ARE NOW COMING FORWARD WITH A NEW PD SITE PLAN FOR A
09:07:46 90,996 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOR MEDICAL OFFICE OR
09:07:50 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
09:07:52 THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT IS 8500 SQUARE FEET
09:07:56 MANUFACTURING AND RETAIL USE TO BE DEMOLISHED.
09:08:02 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ONE LOT TO THE NORTH OF THE SOUTH
09:08:05 MACDILL AVENUE, WEST SWANN AVENUE INTERSECTION.
09:08:08 IT IS SURROUNDED BY RETAIL USES AND NORTH, SOUTH AND
09:08:12 WEST, AND CG PLANNING DISTRICT AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE
09:08:16 EAST AND RM-24 DISTRICT.
09:08:20 THE REQUIRED PARKING BASED ON THE USE FOR MEDICAL OFFICE
09:08:24 IS 53 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND 45 ARE BEING PERMITTED.
09:08:29 THIS IS RESULTING NO 15% PARKING WAIVER REDUCTION.
09:08:33 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED.
09:08:36 HERE IS THE BUILDING.
09:08:38 THERE IS PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING WHICH IS
09:08:41 CANTILEVERED OVER AND SURFACE PARKING TO THE REAR.
09:08:45 THERE'S ONE CORRECTION IN THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE
09:08:49 TWO WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUESTED.
09:08:52 ONE AGAIN IS THE 15% PARKING REDUCTION.
09:08:56 THE OTHER WAIVER CORRECTED FOR THE RECORD, THE REQUIRED
09:09:00 USE BUFFER ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY TO 15 FEET WITH A
09:09:04 6-FOOT CMU WALL AND 8-FOOT CMU WALL.
09:09:11 HERE IS THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN YOUR
09:09:14 SITE PLAN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, CITY COUNCIL.
09:09:16 AGAIN THE PARKING -- (COUGHING) EXCUSE ME, I'M LOSING MY
09:09:23 VOICE -- AND THE TWO STORY BUILDING OVER.
09:09:26 HERE IS THE EXISTING PD.
09:09:28 AGAIN, AS DAVID SAID IT'S ON SWANN AND MacDILL
09:09:32 AVENUE.
09:09:33 COMMERCIAL ZONING UP AND DOWN SWANN AS WELL AS
09:09:36 MacDILL, IN RESIDENTIAL.
09:09:42 TO THE NORTH IS RETAIL USE.
09:09:44 TO THE SOUTH IS AN OFFICE USE.
09:09:46 TO THE WEST IS A BAR, A RESTAURANT, AND TO THE EAST IS
09:09:53 SEMI-DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY ALONG SWANN.
09:09:58 OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DID FIND THIS
09:10:00 INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE PARKING WAIVER REDUCTION OF
09:10:03 15%, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FOR CONSIDERATION.
09:10:09 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09:10:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARY?
09:10:15 ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, MR. BRICKLEMYER.
09:10:21 >> GREG BRICKLEMYER, 601 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE COMING TO YOU
09:10:25 TONIGHT FROM MY GARAGE/MUSIC ROOM.
09:10:29 NEXT, MARY AND DAVID, FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS, I WILL TRY
09:10:35 NOT TO WE PETE WHAT THEY SAID.
09:10:37 YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU LAST YEAR
09:10:41 WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO REHABILITATE THE
09:10:44 EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDING ONCE YOU ALL SAID YES, AND
09:10:50 THE ARCHITECT AND EVERYONE GOT TO WORK AND IT WAS
09:10:53 DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS NOT GOING TO WORK OUT AFTER ALL,
09:10:55 AND SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS WHAT'S IN FRONT OF, WHICH IS
09:11:01 AN ATTRACTIVE MORE MODERN DESIGN, I THINK.
09:11:06 WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE STAFF REPORT, ESPECIALLY JUST
09:11:09 NOTING MARY'S CHANGE TO THAT ONE WAIVER.
09:11:11 SO I AM JUST GOING TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE TWO WAIVERS.
09:11:15 THE WAIVER WAS APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS PD, AND THAT'S
09:11:19 BECAUSE THAT WALL, 8-FOOT WALL HAS BEEN THERE, AND WE ARE
09:11:26 SIMPLY ASKING TO EXTEND THAT WALL TO THE SOUTH WHICH
09:11:29 CONTAINS A BUFFER THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE BETWEEN US AND
09:11:33 THE MULTIFAMILY TO OUR EAST.
09:11:35 OR THE TOWNHOUSE TO OUR EAST.
09:11:39 THE PARKING WAIVER, JUST A FEW THINGS ON THAT.
09:11:42 WE HAVE GOT -- THIS BUILDING IS A .46 F.A.R.
09:11:47 AS DAVID SAID IN HIS PRESENTATION, WE ARE CMU-35 ON THE
09:11:51 FRONT HALF.
09:11:53 HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO UP TO A 2.
09:11:57 AND EVEN IN THE BACK HALF LAND USE CATEGORY WE WOULD HAVE
09:12:00 BEEN A .6.
09:12:01 HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, WE COULD ONLY MANAGE A .46 AND
09:12:05 WE STILL HAVE TO ASK FOR 15% REDUCTION GIVEN ALL OF THAT,
09:12:09 I THINK IT'S PRETTY REASONABLE.
09:12:11 I WILL BE PUTTING INTO EVIDENCE, AS I WILL ALWAYS BE
09:12:14 DOING ON THESE PARKING WAIVER ISSUES, MY LITTLE SURVEY
09:12:18 THAT I DID OF SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS AND OTHER
09:12:21 NATIONAL JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED PRETTY MUCH A
09:12:23 NATIONAL STANDARD OF FIVE SPACES PER THOUSAND IS THE
09:12:27 STANDARD, THE PARKING RATIO.
09:12:30 WE IN TAMPA HAVE A 6 PER THOUSAND.
09:12:33 THIS WOULD MEET FIVE PER THOUSAND SO THIS WOULD BE
09:12:36 ALLOWABLE PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT I HAVE LOOKED.
09:12:40 THE OTHER THOUGHT ON THE PARKING WAIVER IS AS PLANNING
09:12:43 COMMISSION NOTED, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO A COUPLE BUS
09:12:46 STOPS, ON BUS ROUTE 19, ALSO INTENTIONALLY, PART OF THE
09:12:51 BEAUTY OF THE LOCATION IS THE PROXIMITY TO MEMORIAL
09:12:54 HOSPITAL.
09:12:57 FOR THOSE REASONS WE FEEL WE MEET THE CRITERIA, THIS IS A
09:13:03 REALLY GOOD PROJECT, AND DAVID BALL AND I ARE AVAILABLE
09:13:06 FOR QUESTIONS.
09:13:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
09:13:08 APPLICANT?
09:13:11 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, MADAM CLERK,
09:13:15 ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK OR LIVE AT THE CONVENTION
09:13:19 CENTER?
09:13:20 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
09:13:26 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
09:13:27 THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
09:13:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:30 ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL?
09:13:32 IF NOT, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
09:13:35 HEARING.
09:13:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:13:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
09:13:40 GUDES.
09:13:41 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:13:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.
09:13:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY OPPOSED TO CLOSING
09:13:47 THE PUBLIC HEARING?
09:13:48 HEARING NONE, WITH NO OBJECTION BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE
09:13:52 HEARING IS CLOSED.
09:13:55 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER
09:14:00 10?
09:14:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:14:06 FILE REZ 20-74.
09:14:08 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
09:14:10 CONSIDERATION.
09:14:11 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
09:14:13 624 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
09:14:16 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
09:14:19 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL
09:14:22 OFFICE AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, TO PD, PLANNED
09:14:25 DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
09:14:27 OFFICE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:14:31 >> SECOND.
09:14:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
09:14:32 VIERA.
09:14:34 MR. SHELBY.
09:14:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU COULD ADD THE ADDITIONAL
09:14:38 LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO THE CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE
09:14:41 PLAN AND ALSO THERE'S A REVISION SHEET MRS. SAMANIEGO HAS
09:14:48 I BELIEVE IN HER STAFF REPORT IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT PART
09:14:50 OF THE MOTION AS WELL.
09:14:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ORDINANCE 20-74, APPLICANT MET THE
09:15:00 BURDEN OF PROOF WITH COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS
09:15:04 SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, CITY WITH THE SITE PLAN AND CITY
09:15:09 CODE AND FOR THE SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
09:15:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE REVISION SHEET, CORRECT, SIR?
09:15:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REVISION SHEET.
09:15:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
09:15:26 GUDES.
09:15:27 THERE WAS A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:15:29 CORRECT?
09:15:31 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW THE SECOND ON
09:15:36 SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
09:15:37 I'M JOKING.
09:15:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR THE RECORD ARE YOU STILL KEEPING
09:15:40 THE SECOND?
09:15:40 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD SIR.
09:15:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:15:46 LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:15:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:15:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:15:53 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:15:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:15:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:16:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:16:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:16:05 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:16:07 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
09:16:10 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
09:16:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:13 THE FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING HAS A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLIC
09:16:18 COMMENT, AND COULD BE A LITTLE LENGTHY WOULD. ANYBODY
09:16:23 LIKE TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP ON?
09:16:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: KEEP ON.
09:16:29 >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.
09:16:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:16:32 ITEM NUMBER 11.
09:16:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. BRICKLEMYER -- YEAH.
09:16:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:16:50 WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 11.
09:16:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. CORBETT, IS EVERYBODY THERE?
09:17:00 >> NO.
09:17:01 MR. McLAREN IS LOGGED IN.
09:17:03 WE ALSO HAVE JUDGE CASE, THE MAGISTRATE.
09:17:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, DID YOU GET THAT?
09:17:13 >> I BELIEVE CASE IS TRYING TO LOG IN RIGHT NOW.
09:17:28 IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, COUNSELING, McLAREN FROM OUR
09:17:31 OFFICE IS SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM SO WE ARE HAPPY TO GET
09:17:35 TOGETHER SO WE CAN GET ON WITH THE PROCEEDING.
09:17:37 >> I'M GETTING HIM NOW.
09:17:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE HE IS.
09:17:55 ALL RIGHT.
09:17:58 WE HAVE EVERYONE ON HERE OKAY?
09:18:00 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
09:18:02 >>THE CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
09:18:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JIM CASE?
09:18:17 >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH THE
09:18:20 WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
09:18:22 THANK YOU.
09:18:22 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS ON
09:18:24 THIS ITEM.
09:18:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:27 ALL RIGHT.
09:18:30 WHERE DO WE BEGIN, MRS. JOHNSON-VELEZ?
09:18:33 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: FOR THE RECORD, SUSAN
09:18:35 JOHNSON-VELEZ, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
09:18:39 ALSO PRESENT IS DAVID HARVEY, IN OUR LITIGATION PRACTICE
09:18:43 GROUP.
09:18:44 THIS ITEM IS BASED ON A MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR
09:18:49 RELIEF BY 2019 LLC, WHO I WILL REFER TO AS KR TAMPA.
09:18:55 PURSUANT TO SECTION 70.51 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FLORIDA
09:18:59 LAND USE ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION ACT.
09:19:02 A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS BEFORE PROVIDING HISTORY OF THIS
09:19:05 APPLICATION AND THE DETAIL OF THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
09:19:09 UNLIKE THE STANDARD REZONING APPLICATION YOU CONSIDERED
09:19:11 EARLIER THIS EVENING, ANYTIME CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERS A
09:19:15 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL, IT IS LEGISLATIVE AND ALLOWS COUNCIL
09:19:19 TO CONSIDER ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LAND DEVELOPMENT
09:19:20 CODE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE
09:19:24 IMPACT AND PUBLIC INTEREST RESULTING FROM THE PROPOSED
09:19:27 SETTLEMENT.
09:19:29 AFTER I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, YOU WILL HEAR BRIEFLY
09:19:31 FROM RETIRED JUDGE JIM CASE WHO WAS RETAINED BY THE CITY
09:19:36 TO BE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
09:19:38 ONCE JUDGE CASE CONFIRMS THE MEDIATION PROCESS FOLLOWED
09:19:42 AND HIS RECOMMENDATION, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE
09:19:45 APPLICANT, THE PUBLIC, AND THEN PROVIDE THE APPLICANT
09:19:48 WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
09:19:51 FINALLY AS YOU CONSIDER THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
09:19:53 ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AT TONIGHT'S HEARING, PLEASE
09:19:56 REMEMBER THAT ONLY THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
09:19:58 RECOMMENDATION OF THE PUBLIC RECORD, ACTION OR STATEMENTS
09:20:02 OF REFUSES FROM THE CITY AND PREPARE TAMPA ARE EVIDENCE
09:20:05 OF AN OFFER TO COMPROMISE AND IN ADD VISIBLE.
09:20:10 AT YOUR FEBRUARY 13, 2020 MEETING, CITY COUNCIL DENIED
09:20:13 THE REZONING FROM IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED
09:20:18 DEVELOPMENT WHICH WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
09:20:20 MULTIFAMILY PROJECT CONTAINING 240 DWELLING UNITS WITHIN
09:20:25 FOUR BUILDINGS AND A CLUBHOUSE.
09:20:27 THEREAFTER, KR TAMPA FILED REQUEST FOR RELIEF MARCH
09:20:31 15th, 2020 WHICH ALLEGED THAT KR TAMPA HAD MET ITS
09:20:35 BURDEN IN ESTABLISHING CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
09:20:37 PLAN AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
09:20:39 NO WAIVERS OR EXCEPTIONS WERE REQUESTED.
09:20:43 IN ADDITION TO THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF WITH ANOTHER
09:20:47 SEPARATE LEGAL ACTION IN CIRCUIT COURT, THE FIRST COUNT
09:20:52 WAS A PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI, A CITY COUNCIL
09:20:56 DECISION WHICH DENIED THE APPLICATION ASSERTING THAT THE
09:21:00 EXCEPT WAS NOT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND THE
09:21:04 REQUIREMENTS OF LAW.
09:21:05 IN THE SECOND COUNT WAS A COMPLAINT SEEKING DAMAGES,
09:21:08 ATTORNEY FEES, COSTS AND INTEREST UNDER 42 USC 983
09:21:13 CLAIMING A VIOLATION OF EQUAL PROTECTION.
09:21:17 KR TAMPA DOES NOT INDICATE THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGES THEY ARE
09:21:19 SEEKING OTHER THAN TO ALLEGE DAMAGES IN EXCESS UNDER THE
09:21:25 JURISDICTIONAL AMOUNT OF $30,000.
09:21:27 KR TAMPA AND THE CITY SMITH SUBMITTED A JOINT MOTION FOR
09:21:30 STAY TO THE CIRCUIT COURT REQUESTING AN ORDER STAYING THE
09:21:33 LITIGATION UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE 70.51 PROCEEDING.
09:21:38 THE CIRCUIT COURT HAS ENTERED AN ORDER ON THAT MOTION ON
09:21:41 APRIL 9, 2020 AND THE STAY FOR LITIGATION IS IN PLACE AT
09:21:45 THIS TIME.
09:21:46 TURNING YOUR ATTENTION BACK TO THE PROCEDURAL HISTORY OF
09:21:48 THE HEARING WITH RESPECT TO THE 70.51 PROCEEDING, A
09:21:53 REQUEST WAS ORIGINALLY FILED REQUEST THE CITY, MY OFFICE
09:21:57 PROVIDED COUNCIL WITH A MEMORANDUM IN ADMINISTRATIVE
09:21:59 PROCEEDING UNDER SECTION 70.51 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
09:22:04 IT IS A TWO STEP PROCESS.
09:22:06 STEP ONE REQUIRES THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO CONDUCT AN
09:22:09 INFORMAL MEDIATION DURING WHICH THE CITY AND KR TAMPA
09:22:13 CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENTS TO HELP ABOUT THE
09:22:16 DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION.
09:22:18 IN THIS CASE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CONDUCTED STEP ONE OF
09:22:22 THE FORMAL MEDIATION ON JUNE 2nd, 2020.
09:22:25 THE PARTIES WERE NOT ABLE TO REACH AGREEMENT AT THE
09:22:27 MEDIATION SESSION AND AGREED TO PROCEED WITH STEP TWO OF
09:22:30 THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
09:22:32 IN STEP TWO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CALLED A HEARING TO
09:22:36 CONSIDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES SET FORTH IN THE REQUEST FOR
09:22:38 RELIEF TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION
09:22:43 THIS PAST FEBRUARY IS UNREASONABLE OR UNFAIRLY BURDENS
09:22:46 THE PROPERTY, AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CONDUCTED THE
09:22:49 STEP TWO HEARING ON JULY 10, 2020.
09:22:52 PER THE STATUTE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THEN HAS 14 DAYS
09:22:55 TO PREPARE AND FILE A WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION WITH ALL
09:22:58 PARTIES, JULY 24 OF 2020.
09:23:01 AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING ON JULY 10th, THE
09:23:04 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ASKED THE PARTIES TO SUBMIT THEIR
09:23:07 RESPECTIVE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION BY JULY 17th AND
09:23:10 ALSO REMINDED US THAT PER THE STATUTE THE STEP 2 HEARING
09:23:14 DID NOT PRECLUDE US FROM ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT AS TO
09:23:17 THE PERMISSIBLE USE OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO THE SPECIAL
09:23:21 MAGISTRATE ENTERING THE RECOMMENDATION.
09:23:25 BOTH PARTIES SUBMITTED PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
09:23:27 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AND IN ITS PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION KR
09:23:31 TAMPA SUBMITTED ANOTHER PROPOSAL AND ASKED THE MAGISTRATE
09:23:37 INCLUDE THE PROPOSAL IN HIS RECOMMENDATION.
09:23:40 THE THIRD REDUCTION IS BY KR TAMPA AND IS REQUESTED IN
09:23:44 THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
09:23:47 ON AUGUST 5, 2020 THE PARTIES HAD A FINAL MEETING WITH
09:23:50 THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IN ORDER TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
09:23:53 PARTICIPANTS THE OPPORTUNITIES TO COMMENT ON THE
09:23:55 ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATUTORY
09:23:58 REQUIREMENTS.
09:24:00 THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS DIFFERENT THAN
09:24:02 WHAT WAS DENIED IN FEBRUARY, AND SO IS YOUR ROLE TONIGHT.
09:24:06 AS I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET, YOU ARE CONSIDERING A
09:24:09 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL AND THUS YOUR ACTIONS TONIGHT ON THE
09:24:11 SETTLEMENT IS LEGISLATIVE.
09:24:13 THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN AGAIN PROPOSED 240 UNITS IN FOUR
09:24:18 BUILDINGS AND A CLUBHOUSE.
09:24:20 WHAT COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED THE REZONING
09:24:22 APPLICATION, THREE OF THE BUILDINGS WERE THREE STORIES
09:24:24 AND ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WAS FOUR STORIES.
09:24:27 THE DENIAL WAS BASED IN PART UPON KR TAMPA'S FAILURE TO
09:24:30 MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF ESTABLISHING COMPLIANCE WITH
09:24:34 COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT 1.1, FAILURE TO ADEQUATELY
09:24:38 MITIGATE THE IMPACT ON SHELTER SPACE, CONCERNS OVER
09:24:43 GRADING AND IN COMPATIBILITIES WITH THE SURROUNDING
09:24:46 COMMUNITY.
09:24:47 THE SITE PLAN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING
09:24:49 PROPOSES A CLUBHOUSE AND IS ALMOST 205 UNITS LOCATED
09:24:53 WITHIN FOUR BUILDINGS.
09:24:55 ONE OF THE THREE STORY BUILDINGS REDUCED TO TWO STORIES
09:24:58 WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET AND THE FOUR STORY
09:25:02 BUILDING HAS BEEN REDUCED TO THREE STORIES, SO NOW THIS
09:25:05 DEVELOPMENT HAS THREE, THREE STORY BUILDINGS AND ONE
09:25:08 TWO-STORY BUILDING.
09:25:10 FINALLY, KR TAMPA HAS OFFERED THE FOLLOWING ADDITION
09:25:13 CONDITIONS.
09:25:14 THE INCREASE THE BUFFERING AND SCREENING BY INCREASING
09:25:16 THE REQUIRED BUFFER AREA TO BUILDING 4 FROM FIVE FEET TO
09:25:22 58 FEET AND INSTALLATION OF THE 6-FOOT FENCE WITH
09:25:25 PERIMETER ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY LITES
09:25:30 LINES.
09:25:31 HURRICANE EVACUATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FORM OF TWO BUS
09:25:34 SHELTERS AT EXISTING BUS STOPS AT MANHATTAN AVENUE AND
09:25:40 40TH STREET AND FINALLY OFFERED TO PROVIDE PRIVATE
09:25:43 TRANSPORTATION EVACUATION SERVICE TO RESIDENTS OF THE
09:25:45 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWING THE ISSUANCE OF A
09:25:47 MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDER.
09:25:53 IF THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED THIS EVENING I WOULD OFFER
09:25:56 THE CONDITIONS OF KR TAMPA BE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN
09:25:59 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
09:26:01 SO IN A REGULAR REZONING OR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING LIKE
09:26:05 ALL THE OTHER HEARINGS HELD THIS EVENING, CITY COUNCIL
09:26:07 LOOKS SOLELY AT WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED BY
09:26:11 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE PROJECT MEETS
09:26:13 THAN THE REGULATIONS AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
09:26:16 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:26:17 BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL, THERE ARE
09:26:20 OTHER FACTORS THAT CITY COUNCIL MUST TAKE INTO
09:26:22 CONSIDERATION INCLUDING THE FACT THAT IF THE SETTLEMENT
09:26:25 PROPOSAL IS APPROVED, THE LAWSUIT PENDING IN CASE NUMBER
09:26:29 20-CA-002-473 IN THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT WILL BE
09:26:34 DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE WITH EACH PARTY BEARING HIS OWN
09:26:38 ATTORNEY FEES AND COSTS.
09:26:39 PURSUANT TO SECTION 70.51, 21, CITY COUNCIL HAS THREE
09:26:44 OPTIONS THIS EVENING.
09:26:46 AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY WITH RESPECT
09:26:48 TO THE PROPOSED REZONING AND REVISED SITE PLAN, AND AFTER
09:26:52 TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE [AUDIO INTERFERENCE] --
09:26:55 PENDING LITIGATION, CITY COUNCIL MAY ACCEPT THE SPECIAL
09:27:00 MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDATION BY ADOPTING A MOTION APPROVING
09:27:03 THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AND THEN PROCEED TO IMPLEMENT
09:27:05 THE RECOMMENDATION.
09:27:06 IN THIS CASE, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SPECIAL
09:27:09 MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDATION WOULD COUNCIL TO PLACE THE
09:27:13 ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.
09:27:14 THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD STILL BE
09:27:17 REQUIRED.
09:27:18 ON THE OTHER HAND IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT KR
09:27:20 TAMPA FAILED TO MEET ITS BURDEN AFTER TAKING INTO
09:27:23 CONSIDERATION THE OTHER RELEVANT MATTERS IN THE PENDING
09:27:25 LITIGATION, CITY COUNCIL MAY REJECT THE SPECIAL
09:27:28 MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION.
09:27:30 FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MAY MODIFY THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
09:27:34 RECOMMENDATION WITH KR TAMPA ACCEPTANCE OF THE
09:27:37 MODIFICATION, PROCEED TO IMPLEMENT THE MODIFIED
09:27:41 RECOMMENDATIONS.
09:27:41 EXCUSE ME.
09:27:42 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
09:27:45 AND IF THERE ARE NONE AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN THE
09:27:47 PRESENTATION OVER TO JUDGE CASE, AND THEN YOU WILL HEAR
09:27:50 FROM CITY STAFF, PLANNING COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT, THE
09:27:53 PUBLIC, AND REBUTTAL.
09:27:56 >> JUDGE CASE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:28:08 YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.
09:28:09 YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:28:11 >>THE CLERK: JUDGE, CLICK ON THE MICROPHONE ICON AND
09:28:31 UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.
09:28:33 >> THERE WE GO.
09:28:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:28:40 GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:28:41 >> JUDGE CASE: IS THAT BETTER?
09:28:42 >> YES, SIR.
09:28:43 >> OKAY.
09:28:43 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
09:28:45 ADDRESS THE COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO YOUR AGENDA ITEM
09:28:48 NUMBER 11 TONIGHT, IDENTIFIED AS REZ 19-94, KR TAMPA
09:28:57 TRASK LLC VERSUS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:28:59 BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, I AM JUDGE JAMES CASE, A FORMER
09:29:03 SIXTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT JUDGE FOR OVER 22 YEARS, CURRENT
09:29:07 SENIOR JUDGE FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND FOR THE PAST
09:29:09 14 YEARS ALTERNATIVE DISPUTE RESOLUTION PRACTITIONER WHO
09:29:14 HANDLES MEDIATIONS, ARBITRATIONS AND SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
09:29:16 REQUIREMENTS.
09:29:18 AS SUCH, I HAVE BEEN RETAINED BY MR. SCOTT McLAREN,
09:29:24 COUNSEL FOR TRASK, AND SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, SENIOR
09:29:27 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, TO SERVE
09:29:29 AS A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IN FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 70.51
09:29:36 PROCEEDING FOR THIS MATTER.
09:29:37 IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE
09:29:39 ORIGINAL PROCEEDINGS WHEN TRASK WENT BEFORE THE CITY
09:29:42 COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 13th, 2020.
09:29:52 THE SECTION 70.51 PROCEEDING WAS COMMENCED BY TRASK AS
09:29:56 PART OF THE FLORIDA LAND USE ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE
09:29:56 RESOLUTION ACT, DEMAND FOR RELIEF, DATED MARCH 13, 2020.
09:30:01 SEEKING TO RESOLVE ITS DISPUTE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA OVER
09:30:04 DENIAL OF REZONING APPLICATION REZ 19-94.
09:30:10 THE APPLICANT TRASK ALSO REQUESTED THAT A SPECIAL
09:30:13 MAGISTRATE BE APPOINTED, THAT A FURTHER HEARING TAKE
09:30:17 PLACE, AND THAT ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE FLORIDA
09:30:18 PROCESS BE SATISFIED.
09:30:20 CITY OF TAMPA ATTORNEYS AGREED WITH THIS REQUEST AND TO
09:30:25 THE PROCEEDINGS.
09:30:26 IN YOUR MATERIALS, YOU HAVE A COPY OF MY REPORT DATED
09:30:30 JULY 10th WHICH RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY APPROVE THE
09:30:33 MEDIATED SETTLEMENT BETWEEN TRASK AND THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:30:38 ALSO OUTLINES THE EXTENSIVE PROCESS IN SECTION 70.51-B.
09:30:44 AS YOUR MAGISTRATE, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT MY
09:30:47 REFLECTION ON THE PROCESS AND ASK THAT ANY PROJECT
09:30:52 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BE DIRECTED TO YOUR COUNSEL.
09:30:54 OVER MY CAREER, I HAVE HANDLED DOZENS AND DOZENS OF LAND
09:30:58 USE CASES BOTH ON THE BENCH AND ALTERNATIVE DISPUTE
09:31:01 RESOLUTION PROCEEDINGS.
09:31:02 I HAVE WITNESSED YEARS AND YEARS OF PROJECTED LITIGATION,
09:31:08 FRUSTRATING DEVELOPMENT DELAYS, ANGST AMONGST CONTINGENT
09:31:10 PROPERTY OWNERS, AND OF COURSE CONSEQUENCES FROM HUGE
09:31:17 LEGAL BILLS.
09:31:17 HOWEVER, I HAVE BEEN CONTINUALLY IMPRESSED BY THE
09:31:22 INCLUSIVE NATURE OF THE PROCESS UNDER SECTION 70.51 AND
09:31:26 WAS DELIGHTED TO BE ASKED BY MR. McLAREN AND MS.
09:31:29 JOHNSON-VELEZ TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MATTER.
09:31:32 THE BEAUTY OF THE 70.51 PROCESS IS THAT IT STARTS WITH
09:31:36 MEDIATION BETWEEN THE PARTIES WITH NON-PARTY MEMBERS OF
09:31:38 THE PUBLIC INVITED, PRESENT, AND ABLE TO PROVIDE
09:31:42 TESTIMONY.
09:31:43 IN THIS CASE THE CITY OF TAMPA KNOWS THE REQUIRED
09:31:44 CONTINGENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND MANY OTHERS WHO MIGHT HAVE
09:31:50 AN INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING AND THAT THIS INFORMATION IS
09:31:53 MADE MUCH EASIER USING THE COVID-DRIVEN ZOOM ONLINE
09:31:59 PLATFORM.
09:31:59 I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU THAT I HAVE NEVER CONDUCTED A
09:32:03 VIRTUAL 70.51 HEARING BEFORE BUT IT WORKED GREAT.
09:32:07 MEDIATION WAS HELD ON JUNE 2ND 2020.
09:32:10 AN IMPORTANT NOTE AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE IN COURT
09:32:13 RELATED MEDIATIONS THE PROCESS IS CONFIDENTIAL AND CLOSED
09:32:17 TO OUTSIDE PARTIES. IN THIS CASE, ALL INTERESTED PARTIES
09:32:20 HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO COUNSEL'S PRESENTATIONS,
09:32:24 PROVIDED THEIR INPUT AND LISTEN TO THE VARIOUS
09:32:26 NEGOTIATIONS.
09:32:27 WE HAD TWO NON-PARTY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATE IN
09:32:31 MEDIATION.
09:32:32 THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN A CONVENTIONAL MEDIATION IN
09:32:36 COURT.
09:32:36 THE NEXT STEP IN THE SECTION 70.51 PROCESS IS A PUBLIC
09:32:41 HEARING WHERE COUNSEL FROM BOTH SIDES PROVIDE THEIR LEGAL
09:32:45 ARGUMENTS AND EVIDENCE, AND AGAIN NONPARTY MEMBERS ARE
09:32:48 WELCOME TO APPEAR AND DID.
09:32:50 THE HEARING WAS HELD VIRTUALLY ON JULY 10th IN A ZOOM
09:32:57 PLATFORM WITH TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATING.
09:33:00 SECTION 70.51 THEN PROVIDES THAT ABSENT A SETTLEMENT
09:33:04 AGREEMENT AFTER THE HEARING ALL THE TESTIMONY AND
09:33:06 EVIDENCE, REVIEWING THE PRIOR CASES, THE SPECIAL
09:33:10 MAGISTRATE IS REQUIRED TO RENDER A DECISION WITHIN 14
09:33:14 DAYS, BUT THE STATUTE ALSO PROVIDES THAT THE PARTIES CAN
09:33:16 AND SHOULD CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL A TIME THAT THE
09:33:22 FINAL RULING IS PUBLISHED. IN THIS CASE, COUNSEL DID
09:33:24 INDEED REACH A SETTLEMENT WHICH WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE
09:33:27 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE BEFORE A DECISION WAS RENDERED.
09:33:31 WITH THAT MEDIATED SETTLEMENT, ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING WAS
09:33:33 HELD ON AUGUST 5th BY THE ZOOM PLATFORM.
09:33:37 PRIOR TO THAT MEETING, THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT TERMS WERE
09:33:39 DISCLOSED AND THE NONPARTY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WERE
09:33:43 INVITED TO ATTEND AND PROVIDE COMMENTS, WHICH THEY DID.
09:33:47 I FOUND THIS ENTIRE PROCESS TO BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL
09:33:51 AND LISTENED CAREFULLY TO ALL SIDES OF THE REZONING
09:33:53 REQUEST AND TO THE CONCERNS OF THE NONPARTY MEMBERS OF
09:33:55 THE PUBLIC.
09:33:58 AND I ISSUED MY FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE
09:34:02 MEDIATED SETTLEMENT ON AUGUST 10, 2020.
09:34:05 TWO IMPORTANT THINGS TO PLEASE REMEMBER.
09:34:07 FIRST, AT THIS POINT, THIS IS NOT A NORMAL LAND USE
09:34:11 PROCEEDING.
09:34:11 IT IS A SECTION 70.51 PROCEEDING IN WHICH THE SPECIAL
09:34:15 MAGISTRATE MAKES A REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:34:17 AND SECOND, I LISTENED CAREFULLY TO THE CONCERNS OF THOSE
09:34:21 IN FAVOR OF AND IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT EVEN AFTER
09:34:25 CONCESSIONS MIGHT BE MADE BY TRASK IN THE FINAL MEDIATED
09:34:29 SETTLEMENT.
09:34:29 AS IN ALL MEDIATIONS, IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE AND NO ONE
09:34:29 GETS EVERYTHING THEY WANT. BUT AS STATED PUBLICLY, THE
09:34:35 PROCESS WAS RICHER AND THE SETTLEMENT OFFERED WITH
09:34:38 SUBSTANTIAL AND THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE
09:34:41 INPUT OF THE NONPARTY MEMBERS PUBLIC THAT PARTICIPATED.
09:34:45 AND I THANK THEM FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION.
09:34:48 AT THIS POINT, AS YOUR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I RECOMMEND
09:34:51 THAT THE CITY COUNCIL RULE FAVORABLY ON THE MEDIATED
09:34:56 SETTLEMENT IN THIS CASE, WITH THE ISSUING A DEVELOPMENT
09:34:56 ORDER APPROVING THE REZONING OF THE TRASK PROPERTY ON
09:35:02 WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION OF AUGUST 10, 2020.
09:35:05 AND I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY OF
09:35:08 TAMPA AND YOUR ATTENTION THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.
09:35:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:35:14 WHO WILL BE NEXT?
09:35:22 MARY?
09:35:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
09:35:24 COORDINATION.
09:35:34 THIS IS CASE REZ 19-94.
09:35:37 AGAIN, IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO
09:35:41 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, FOR A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND
09:35:46 OUTLINED THE PROPOSED CHANGES BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS CASE
09:35:50 AND WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
09:35:53 BRIEFLY, THEY ARE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF MAXIMUM BUILDING
09:35:57 UNITS FROM 240 UNITS TO 205, REDUCTION OF THE BUILDING
09:36:02 HEIGHT OF BUILDING 4 FROM THREE STORIES TO TWO STORIES,
09:36:05 AND FROM ZONING HEIGHTS IN BUILDING 2, FOUR STORIES TO
09:36:10 THREE STORIES.
09:36:11 INCREASE IN THE BUFFERING AND SCREENING AS FOLLOWS:
09:36:14 INCREASE THE REQUIRED BUFFER AREA TO THE EAST OF BUILDING
09:36:17 4, FROM FIVE FEET TO 15 FEET, AND INSTALLATION OF THE
09:36:22 6-FOOT FENCE WITH PERIMETER PLANTINGS ALONG THE ENTIRETY
09:36:24 OF THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PROPERTY LOTS.
09:36:29 HURRICANE EVACUATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FORM OF TWO BUS
09:36:32 SHELTERS, EXISTING BUS STOPS AT THE INTERSECTION OF
09:36:35 MANHATTAN AVENUE AND McCOY STREET, AND PROVIDE
09:36:41 TRANSPORTATION EVACUATION SERVICE TO RESIDENTS OF THE
09:36:45 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWING ISSUANCE OF A MANDATORY
09:36:48 EVACUATION ORDER APPLICABLE TO THE SITE.
09:36:50 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
09:36:52 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND THIS
09:36:54 CONSISTENT.
09:36:56 HERE IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
09:36:58 AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL GENERAL
09:37:03 WITH THE STANDING WAREHOUSE, MANUFACTURING USE.
09:37:05 THERE ARE THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT SUBDIVISIONS TO THE
09:37:10 SOUTH, SOME RM-16 OVER TO THE EAST, AND THE RAILROAD
09:37:17 TRACKS TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST.
09:37:21 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
09:37:23 EXCUSE ME.
09:37:25 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
09:37:28 AGAIN, THE LAYOUT IS THE SAME AS WHAT WAS BEFORE YOU
09:37:33 BEFORE.
09:37:34 HOWEVER, THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS HAVE BEEN REDUCED
09:37:38 DOWN TO 205 AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL FENCING, AND
09:37:43 LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS ARE RECOMMENDED.
09:37:48 PROPOSED, RATHER.
09:37:49 HERE IS THE TREE TABLE AND BE EXISTING TREES TO BE
09:37:52 RETAINED AND REMOVED.
09:37:56 THEY ARE PROVIDING BUILDING ELEVATIONS AGAIN INDICATING
09:38:00 THE MASS AND SCALE AGREED UPON TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF
09:38:04 THESE BUILDINGS.
09:38:07 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09:38:09 AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND
09:38:11 THIS CONSISTENT AND THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
09:38:15 THANK YOU.
09:38:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:38:17 MR. HEY, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS?
09:38:20 >>DAVID HEY: I DO, YES.
09:38:21 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
09:38:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR HEY DAVID HEY, YOUR
09:38:32 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
09:38:33 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
09:38:37 THE SITE IS WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
09:38:40 MORE SPECIFICALLY PORT TAMPA AREA.
09:38:42 THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST
09:38:46 SWANN AVENUE AND SOUTH MANHATTAN.
09:38:50 THERE IS THE PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY JUST TO THE
09:38:53 SOUTH.
09:38:54 THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL A EVACUATION.
09:38:59 AGAIN, WE HAVE THE AERIAL, McCOY, THE PARK TO THE
09:39:08 SOUTH.
09:39:08 EXISTING RAIL LINE NOW.
09:39:11 IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE WERE SPURS GOING INTO THE
09:39:15 PROPERTY.
09:39:16 THERE WERE SPURS TO THE NORTH, RUNNING DOWN INTO
09:39:20 MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE IN THE PAST.
09:39:25 BUT THESE WERE HISTORICALLY NONRESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
09:39:32 DETACHED, OVER TIME HAS SURROUNDED THE SITE.
09:39:42 WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
09:39:43 THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
09:39:47 AND THAT KIND OF RUST COLOR IS THAT TRANSITIONAL USE 24
09:39:53 CONSIDERATION FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, AND RESIDENTIAL.
09:39:57 THERE'S ALSO MORE ON THE OTHER SIDE, ACTUALLY --
09:40:03 MANHATTAN.
09:40:04 AND THEN YOU HAVE GOT RESIDENTIAL 10 IN THE TAN AND YOU
09:40:07 ACTUALLY HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL 20 RUNNING ALONG
09:40:10 MANHATTAN.
09:40:13 TOWNHOMES CAN BE CONSIDERED IN THESE AREAS.
09:40:17 THE PROPOSAL IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 6603 SOUTH
09:40:25 TRASK STREET FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED
09:40:30 DEVELOPMENT, 205 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
09:40:33 AGAIN, THE SITE IS WITHIN THAT TRANSITIONAL USE 24,
09:40:36 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
09:40:38 THE CATEGORY DOES NOT HAVE A CLEAR IDENTIFIED DEVELOPMENT
09:40:42 TREND ALLOWING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF RESIDENTIAL
09:40:45 COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, WHILE HISTORICALLY THE SITE HAS
09:40:47 BEEN USED FOR INDUSTRIAL USES, THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY
09:40:51 WOULD BE MORE SENSITIVE TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL
09:40:55 USES WITHIN THE PORT TAMPA CITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:40:58 IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE SITE UNDER THAT TRANSITIONAL
09:41:02 USE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR A MAXIMUM OF 680,000 SQUARE
09:41:09 FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES TO AN APPROVED REZONING.
09:41:14 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE WITHIN ONE FOURTH OF A MILE TO
09:41:19 THE EAST AND SOUTH OF THE SITE, APPROVED PLANNED
09:41:22 DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY, WITHIN THE TRANSITIONAL USE
09:41:25 24 TO THE WEST.
09:41:27 FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE
09:41:30 USE OF THE SITE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
09:41:33 RESIDENTIAL USES.
09:41:34 THE PROPOSED PROJECT SUPPORTS MANY OF THE POLICIES OF THE
09:41:38 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HOUSING THE CITY'S POPULATION, THE
09:41:41 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING CODE ENCOURAGES HOUSING IN
09:41:45 VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THAT AN ADEQUATE
09:41:51 SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
09:41:52 TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATION.
09:41:55 PORTIONS OF THE SITE ARE WITHIN THAT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
09:41:57 AREA.
09:41:58 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA IS AN AREA BELOW THE
09:42:01 ELEVATION OF A CATEGORY ONE STORM SURGE.
09:42:03 AND DUE TO THIS, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT
09:42:06 ENSURES THAT THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF DURING THE
09:42:10 PERMIT STAGE TO MITIGATE FOR ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON
09:42:13 SHELTER SPACE.
09:42:15 ALSO, THE ADOPTED AUGUST 2016 GREENWAYS AND TRAILS PLAN
09:42:20 UPDATE BY THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION
09:42:23 IDENTIFIED THE EXISTING CSX RIGHT-OF-WAY ADJACENT TO THE
09:42:27 SUBJECT SITE AT THE CONCEPTUAL TRAIL. IN COMPLIANCE WITH
09:42:31 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A NOTE
09:42:34 ON THE SITE PLAN ASKING FUTURE CONNECTIONS TO THAT TRAIL
09:42:39 IF IT'S DEVELOPED.
09:42:40 IN CONCLUSION THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY OF THE POLICIES
09:42:42 WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
09:42:45 DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THAT TRANSITIONAL USE 24, AND
09:42:51 YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF CONTINUES TO RECOMMEND THE
09:42:53 PROPOSED REZONING BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS
09:42:56 OF THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:42:59 THANK YOU.
09:42:59 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR?
09:43:04 MR. HEY, COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
09:43:09 HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO MAINTAIN INDUSTRIAL LAND IN THE
09:43:11 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IN PARTICULAR IS IT IMPORTANT IN
09:43:13 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL LAND SPACED OUT
09:43:17 IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY?
09:43:22 >>DAVID HEY: THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS THERE.
09:43:24 FIRST, THE CITY DOES RECOGNIZE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY AS
09:43:29 IMPORTANT TO THE CITY ECONOMIC HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, AND
09:43:34 LOOKS AT PRESERVING INDUSTRIALLY PLANNED AREAS.
09:43:39 I WILL NOTE THAT THOUGH THIS WAS INDUSTRIAL, THE PLAN
09:43:42 DOES NOT RECOGNIZE IT, AND IT DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE
09:43:46 POLICIES THAT DEAL WITH INDUSTRIAL.
09:43:49 TRANSITIONAL USE IS A UNIQUE CATEGORY THAT YOU CAN HAVE
09:43:53 ALL THREE USES.
09:43:55 SO IF THIS WAS ACTUALLY PLANNED INDUSTRIAL, IT WOULD HAVE
09:43:59 A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY,
09:44:04 AND THIS SITE DOES NOT.
09:44:05 THE PLAN DOES NOT ADDRESS THE LOCATION OF INDUSTRIAL.
09:44:15 I BELIEVE IT DOES TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THE
09:44:18 CORE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT DOES NOT SET LIKE A
09:44:21 RATIO OR ANYTHING OF HOW MUCH INDUSTRIAL OR PLANNING
09:44:26 DISTRICT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
09:44:27 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:44:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:44:30 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
09:44:33 ALL RIGHT, MR. HEY.
09:44:34 >>DAVID HEY: THAT'S IT FOR ME.
09:44:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HEY?
09:44:42 HEARING AND SEEING NONE, ALL RIGHT.
09:44:47 I BELIEVE THAT'S IT FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
09:44:52 THEN THE APPLICANT.
09:44:54 >> MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN?
09:45:11 FOR THE RECORD, KAMI CORBETT, 101 EAST -- OH, SORRY.
09:45:20 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD SUITE 3700 TAMPA, FLORIDA WITH
09:45:24 THE LAW FIRM OF HILL, WARD, HENDERSON HERE REPRESENTING
09:45:27 THE APPLICANT.
09:45:27 IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO GET MY SHARED SCREEN.
09:45:30 I CAUGHT UP AND IT IS UP.
09:45:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:45:35 WE SAW YOUR BUT IT SHOWS YOUR FILE.
09:45:39 >> KAMI CORBETT: OKAY.
09:45:41 YOU CAN SEE THAT.
09:45:42 OKAY.
09:45:44 ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
09:45:48 SORRY.
09:45:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
09:45:51 >> KAMI CORBETT: THANK YOU.
09:46:01 I DO GREATLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
09:46:04 THE LAND USE DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS.
09:46:07 I THINK EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO BE HEARD INCLUDING THE
09:46:14 CITY'S CONCERNS, THE APPLICANT'S CONCERNS AND SOME OF THE
09:46:16 RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD,
09:46:19 AND WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING
09:46:21 TO COME UP WITH A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
09:46:25 YES, WE FILED LITIGATION, BUT WE ALSO FILED THE MEDIATION
09:46:28 PROCESS BECAUSE WE STILL THINK THAT IT'S BETTER OUTCOME
09:46:31 FOR EVERYONE TO START WITH MEDIATION THAN START WITH
09:46:34 LITIGATION.
09:46:35 SO PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS EVENING --
09:46:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HATE TO INTERRUPT.
09:46:42 MARTIN SHELBY OVER HERE.
09:46:45 NUMBER ONE IS I JUST RECEIVED WORD THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA
09:46:49 GOT BUNCHED OUT AGAIN, AND IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK
09:46:52 IN.
09:46:53 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE A COUPLE OF
09:46:55 MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
09:46:57 OH, DID HE JUST COME BACK IN?
09:46:59 I COULD HAVE SWORN I JUST SAW HIM.
09:47:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE WAS FROZEN.
09:47:02 HIS COMPUTER FROZE AND I HAVE TO RESTART.
09:47:06 LET'S GIVE HIM A FEW MINUTES BEFORE YOU BEGIN.
09:47:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN.
09:47:10 AND ALSO, MS. CORBETT, IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT A FULL
09:47:13 SCREEN SO WE COULD HAVE A LARGER SCREEN FOR THE COUNCIL.
09:47:18 >> KAMI CORBETT: YES.
09:47:22 I WILL PUT THE PRESENTATION IN SLIDE MODE.
09:47:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:47:25 >> AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S PATIENCE IN ALLOWING
09:47:32 COUNCILMAN VIERA NOT MISS ANY PART OF HIS PRESENTATION,
09:47:35 IF HE WISHES TO PARTICIPATE.
09:47:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET HIM RESTART THE COMPUTER REAL
09:47:42 QUICK AND WE'LL HAVE EVERYBODY ON THE SCREEN.
09:47:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT MIGHT TAKE LONGER THAN TWO MINUTES,
09:47:48 I DON'T KNOW.
09:47:49 I DON'T WANT TO KEEP COUNCIL WAITING.
09:47:55 I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE A BREAK OR NOT.
09:47:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE
09:47:59 BREAK?
09:48:01 LET'S TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
09:48:04 IT'S 9:48.
09:48:06 LET'S START AT 9:55 TO GIVE COUNCILMAN VIERA TIME TO
09:48:14 RESTART.
09:48:16 SO WE'LL START AT 9:55 AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM MS.
09:48:23 CORBETT.
09:48:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND JUST TO BE ABLE TO REMIND YOU TO
09:48:28 MUTE YOUR AUDIO AND TURN OFF THE CAMERA IF YOU DON'T WANT
09:48:33 TO BE SEEN DURING THIS TIME.
09:48:39 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
09:49:33
09:55:26 (ROLL CALL)
09:57:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:57:47 MS. CORBETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN YOUR POWER POINT?
09:57:50 >> AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, KAMI CORBETT, 101 EAST KENNEDY
09:57:59 BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700, HERE REPRESENTING THE
09:58:03 APPLICANT/OWNER.
09:58:04 MY PRESENTATION THIS EVENING IS GOING TO FOCUS ON THE TWO
09:58:06 ASPECTS THAT SUSAN OUTLINED FOR YOU WHICH IS YOU ARE
09:58:09 BEING ASKED TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SPECIAL
09:58:14 MAGISTRATE, AND A PD PLAN THIS EVENING.
09:58:20 THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT SITE PLAN ENHANCES THE
09:58:25 COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY OF THE PROPOSED
09:58:28 DEVELOPMENT.
09:58:28 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FOUND THAT THE REVISED SITE
09:58:30 PLAN IS CONSISTENT AND LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
09:58:33 FINDS THAT THE REVISED SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT.
09:58:35 AS OUTLINED BY STAFF, THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT
09:58:43 OFFERED TO ENHANCE COMPATIBILITY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT
09:58:44 WITH A REDUCTION IN DENSITY, AS JUDGE CASE POINTED OUT,
09:58:48 WE REDUCED DENSITY THREE DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE
09:58:51 PROCESS, AND WE ARE AT 205 UNITS. WE ELIMINATED 35
09:58:56 UNITS.
09:58:57 WE REDUCED BUILDING HEIGHTS FROM FOUR STORY AND THREE
09:59:00 STORIES TO THREE STORY AND TWO STORY.
09:59:02 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THESE BUILDINGS IS 45
09:59:05 FEET AND 35 FEET PERSPECTIVELY.
09:59:09 WE INCREASED THE BUFFERING ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
09:59:12 WE INCREASED SCREENING WITH FENCING AND LANDSCAPING ALONG
09:59:14 THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
09:59:16 AND THEN WE ARE STILL DOING THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING
09:59:19 DURING THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WHICH IS THE OUTSIDE
09:59:22 BUILDING DESIGN FOR COMPATIBILITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY,
09:59:25 WE ARE PROVIDING GREEN SPACE WITH CIVILIAN SEATING AREA,
09:59:30 ACCESSIBLE FROM TRASK STREET TO THE PUBLIC AND AGAIN
09:59:33 ASKING FOR NO WAIVERS AND WE ARE FULLY CONSISTENT WITH
09:59:35 THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
09:59:37 TO ORIENT YOU TO THE SITE PLAN THAT WE SHOWED IN THE
09:59:40 REVISIONS?
09:59:54 WE HAD A FENCE AND BOUNDARY ALONG THE PLAN AND WE ADDED
09:59:57 THAT AMOUNT TO THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
09:59:59 WE ARE PROPOSING A 5500 CLUBHOUSE AND AMENITIES AS LONG
10:00:04 AS A DOG PARK, AND THEN THAT PUBLIC OPEN SPACE DOWN HERE
10:00:15 AND PRESERVING ALL THE NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREES ON-SITE.
10:00:19 MARY SHOWED YOU THESE ARE TWO STORY BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
10:00:23 SEE THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS COASTAL AND MORE
10:00:26 CONSISTENT WITH SINGLE-FAMILY THAN THE OTHER TYPES OF
10:00:28 MULTIFAMILY THAT YOU SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WESTSHORE.
10:00:33 THIS IS A HEIGHT PLAN ANALYSIS IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER BY
10:00:37 BUILDING 4.
10:00:38 YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE MEASURED THE SITE DISTANCE
10:00:40 BETWEEN THE PROPOSED BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND THE EXISTING
10:00:44 RESIDENTIAL, AND YOU WILL SEE THE DISTANCE IS 55 FEET.
10:00:49 THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET WHICH IS THE SAME AS WHAT
10:00:51 IS ALLOWED IN SINGLE-FAMILY.
10:00:54 MOVING ONTO OUR THREE STORY BUILDINGS, WE ARE STILL
10:00:58 MAINTAINING THAT ARCHITECTURE, AND THAT YOU HAVE A MUCH
10:01:00 MORE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FEEL THAN
10:01:03 MULTIFAMILY.
10:01:05 AND HERE IS THE HEIGHT PLAN ANALYSIS FOR THE THREE STORY
10:01:09 BUILDING THAT FACES WALL STREET.
10:01:12 THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE NEAREST HOME ON
10:01:15 WALL STREET IS 172.6 FEET, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 45
10:01:20 FEET VERSUS 35 FEET FOR SINGLE-FAMILY.
10:01:25 WHEN IT COMES TO THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENTS, WE HAVE
10:01:29 OFFERED TO CONSTRUCT TWO BUS SHELTERS ALONG THE EXISTING
10:01:33 PARK EVALUATION ROUTE.
10:01:35 THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BUT WE
10:01:37 THOUGHT IT WOULD DO TWO THINGS, ONE TO ADDRESS COASTAL
10:01:40 MANAGEMENT BY ENCOURAGING PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE HART FOR
10:01:45 EVACUATION, BUT PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, GENERALLY IT
10:01:49 ENCOURAGES THE USE OF TRANSIT FOR EVERYONE BY PROVIDING
10:01:53 BUS SHELTERS, WE ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO RIDE THE BUS AND
10:01:56 UTILIZE THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM WHICH IS SO NEEDED IN
10:02:00 OUR COMMUNITY.
10:02:00 WE ARE STILL PROVIDING THE SITE SPECIFIC HURRICANE
10:02:03 EVACUATION PREPAREDNESS PLAN, AND I WILL ADDRESS THAT IN
10:02:06 A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE.
10:02:09 THE DEVELOPER WILL STILL BE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE
10:02:12 MITIGATION FOR SHELTER SPACE PER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,
10:02:17 AND THEN OF COURSE BUILDING TO THE CURRENT BUILDING CODE
10:02:19 WHICH IS REQUIRED TO BE ABOVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION AND TO
10:02:23 CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE WIND BUILDING CODE STANDARDS.
10:02:26 JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE
10:02:28 PROPOSED BUS SHELTERS.
10:02:31 THIS IS AT MCCOY AND MANHATTAN.
10:02:34 AND THEN AGAIN WITH OUR VOLUNTEER SITE SPECIFIC
10:02:37 EVACUATION AND PREPAREDNESS PLAN, WE WILL HAVE AN
10:02:40 EDUCATIONAL ELEMENT BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS TO
10:02:43 REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE EVACUATION TRANSPORT
10:02:46 SERVICES TO RESIDENTS.
10:02:54 AS STATED EARLIER THE REVISED SITE PLAN ENHANCES
10:02:57 COMPATIBILITY FEATURES OF THE PLAN, CONDITIONS IMPOSED OR
10:03:02 IMPOSED TO ADDRESS THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA CONCERNS.
10:03:04 NO WAIVERS, FINDING OF CONSISTENCY FROM ALL AGENCIES, AND
10:03:08 PLANNING COMMISSION FIND IT CONSISTENT.
10:03:11 A FEW THINGS IN ADDITION TO THE CONSISTENCY AND
10:03:15 COMPATIBILITY OF THE PROPOSED PLANS, THERE ARE SOME
10:03:17 POSITIVE OUTCOMES RESULTING FROM APPROVAL OF SETTLEMENT.
10:03:21 ONE, YOU HAVE AN APPROVED PLAN BEFORE YOU WITH LOWER
10:03:23 DENSITY, LESS INTENSITY, IMPROVED BUFFERING, AND
10:03:27 SCREENING.
10:03:28 WE ELIMINATE HEY INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL USE ADJACENT TO
10:03:31 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
10:03:34 WE REDUCED THE ALLOWABLE TRIPS ON THE ROAD NETWORK FROM
10:03:38 3400 APPROXIMATELY TO APPROXIMATELY 1100.
10:03:42 WE HAVE LOCAL JOB CREATION.
10:03:44 WE HAVE A $25 MILLION CONSTRUCTION BUDGET WITH A LOCAL GC
10:03:48 WHO SOURCES SUBS LOCALLY.
10:03:51 CREATE HUNDREDS OF CONSTRUCTION JOBS FOR THE LOCAL LABOR
10:03:53 FORCE FOR 16 TO 17 MONTHS THERE.
10:03:55 WILL BE AN EXPONENTIAL INCREASE IN THE CITY TAX BASE.
10:04:00 AND FINALLY OF COURSE IT RESOLVES LAWSUITS AND AVOIDS
10:04:04 COSTLY TIME CONSUMING LITIGATION.
10:04:06 WITH THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT
10:04:09 YOU APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AND PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
10:04:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:14 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:04:17 I HEAR NONE.
10:04:18 OKAY.
10:04:20 ANYBODY ELSE ON YOUR SIDE, MS. CORBETT, THAT WISHES TO
10:04:24 PRESENT OR SPEAK?
10:04:26 >>KAMI CORBETT: NOT AT THIS TIME.
10:04:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HEARING THAT, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC
10:04:29 COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, MADAM CLERK?
10:04:33 >>THE CLERK: YES.
10:04:36 WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS THAT ARE ONLINE.
10:04:39 7 REGISTERED.
10:04:41 IF YOU WANT TO CHECK WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER FIRST.
10:04:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION
10:04:47 CENTER THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ
10:04:50 19-94?
10:04:53 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
10:04:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:58 HAVING THAT INFORMATION, MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
10:05:00 TO BEGIN WITH THE FIVE SPEAKERS, WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN, AND
10:05:04 I WILL KEEP TIME, THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
10:05:11 >>THE CLERK: I'LL MOVE THEM OVER NOW.
10:05:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:05:13 CAN YOU DO ALL FIVE OR DO YOU HAVE TO DO FOUR AT A TIME?
10:05:25 >> I WILL DO ALL FIVE.
10:05:26 ANN BENNETT.
10:05:27 JANE STOMEYER.
10:05:27 STEVE MEADOWS.
10:05:28 STEPHANIE POYNTER.
10:05:29 AND MARY KAY JONES.
10:05:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONCE I SEE THEM ON THE SCREEN WE'LL
10:05:33 SWEAR THEM IN.
10:05:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS YOU ARE COMING ON, TURN ON YOUR
10:06:08 CAMERAS SO WE CAN SEE YOU.
10:06:09 I SEE TWO PEOPLE.
10:06:11 THREE.
10:06:17 FOUR.
10:06:22 ALL RIGHT.
10:06:23 AND WE ARE MISSING ONE MORE SPEAKER.
10:06:25 >>THE CLERK: YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON
10:06:31 YOUR VIDEO.
10:06:46 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:06:48 >> I CAN HEAR YOU.
10:06:50 IT SAID I WAS UNMUTED.
10:06:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T SEE YOU.
10:06:53 MEADOWS IS THE ONE CAMERA THAT WE CAN'T SEE.
10:06:55 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:07:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN HEAR YOU.
10:07:05 TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
10:07:07 >>THE CLERK: THERE'S A VIDEO ICON THAT YOU NEED TO TURN
10:07:09 ON TO TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
10:07:11 >> HE CAN HEAR US.
10:07:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO BE ON VIDEO BECAUSE
10:07:21 THAT'S HOW THESE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS ARE.
10:07:25 SINCE WE CAN'T BE FACE TO FACE WE HAVE TO AT LEAST SEE
10:07:27 THE PERSON WHO IS SPEAKING.
10:07:30 >> I SEE ME WITH ALL THE PICTURES OF YOU GUYS.
10:07:38 CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?
10:07:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:07:42 >> MAYBE IF I USE MY LEFT HAND.
10:07:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL OF YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:07:50 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE
10:07:53 TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:07:56 >> I DO.
10:07:57 >> I DO.
10:07:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:59 I WILL BEGIN IN THE ORDER THAT I SEE ON MY SCREEN.
10:08:03 I HAVE MARY, KATHRYN JONES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK,
10:08:07 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND I WILL START THE TIMER.
10:08:09 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN.
10:08:11 I FIRST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY
10:08:14 TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE TRASK ZONING.
10:08:19 MY NAME IS MARY KATHRYN JONES.
10:08:21 SORRY.
10:08:21 I APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS NOT PRESENT FOR THE INITIAL
10:08:23 MEETING AS I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF, AS A DIRECT NEIGHBOR
10:08:28 TO THE TRASK PROPERTY I AM COMING TO YOU WITH MULTIPLE
10:08:31 CONCERNS.
10:08:31 WE PURCHASED OUR HOME SIX YEARS AGO, THE LARGEST PIECE OF
10:08:34 PROPERTY, BUT TWO FOR THE LARGE FIELD AND LACK OF
10:08:37 DEVELOPMENT FROM THE BACK ROAD ON THE TRASK PROPERTY.
10:08:40 THE LAST THING WE NEED IS THE POSSIBILITY OF 205 OF OUR
10:08:44 CLOSEST NEW FRIENDLY NEIGHBORS IN OUR BACKYARD.
10:08:46 WITH TWO SMALL CHILDREN WE SPEND PLENTY OF TIME OUTSIDE
10:08:49 AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS NOT ONLY CONSTRUCTION FROM
10:08:53 THREE STORY APARTMENTS BUT THE ONGOING TRAFFIC IT WILL
10:08:58 BRING.
10:08:59 I HAD PREVIOUSLY HEARD THAT THE DEVELOPERS WERE TRYING TO
10:09:01 APPEAL TO BUT APARTMENTS REALLY WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING
10:09:05 FOR?
10:09:07 I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION. IF YOU ARE MILITARY DO YOU
10:09:10 CURRENTLY LIVE NO HOUSE OR IN AN APARTMENT?
10:09:13 OF THE 44 PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED 41 PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVE
10:09:16 IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
10:09:17 TWO RESPONDED THAT THEY LIVE IN A TOWN HOME AND ONE LIVES
10:09:21 IN AN APARTMENT.
10:09:22 ALTHOUGH A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE, THESE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR
10:09:25 THEMSELVES.
10:09:26 IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT SINGLE AIRMEN ARE LOOKING FOR AN
10:09:33 APARTMENT.
10:09:34 FORTUNATELY THERE ARE FIVE APARTMENT COMPLEX HE CURRENTLY
10:09:37 OPEN, ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND ONE WAS APPROVED LAST
10:09:40 MONTH ON INTERBAY.
10:09:42 ALL OF THESE ARE WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE TRASK PROPERTY.
10:09:45 AFTER ALL FIVE OF THE OPERATING APARTMENTS, THEN WHY
10:09:50 WOULD WE NEED YET ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX WHEN WE ARE
10:09:53 NOT FILLING THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE?
10:09:55 PORT TAMPA IS ATTRACTING FAMILIES BOTH YOUNG AND OLD,
10:09:58 BOTH MILITARY AND CIVILIAN WHO ARE LOOKING FOR
10:10:00 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES OR HOUSES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT
10:10:05 APARTMENTS.
10:10:06 WITH YOU BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT, IN I FAMILY OF FOUR
10:10:09 WALKS OR RIDES THEIR BIKES OFTEN.
10:10:12 WE SEE MANY OTHERS WALKING AND BIKING.
10:10:14 THERE ARE MANY TIMES WE HAD TO WALK IN THE STREET BECAUSE
10:10:16 OF OVERGROWN SIDEWALKS.
10:10:18 THIS WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT BE AN OPTION WHEN 400 PROPOSED
10:10:24 DAILY.
10:10:25 NOT ONLY IS IT BUSY ENOUGH -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] THE
10:10:32 INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NOT SUPPORT THE RAPID GROWTH IN
10:10:35 APARTMENTS, WHETHER DIAGNOSE A ROUTINE NORMAL DAY OR
10:10:37 ESPECIALLY DURING ANY KIND OF EVACUATION.
10:10:39 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE AN EVACUATION?
10:10:42 AND WHILE WE ARE HERE, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA
10:10:45 FLOODING.
10:10:46 THE PROPERTY ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN A FLOOD
10:10:52 ZONE.
10:10:52 AIM CHOIR THIS PLAN HAS FLOOD MITIGATIONS BUT SO DO THE
10:10:56 OTHER LARGE APARTMENTS IN THE AREA AND MANY OF THE OLDER
10:10:59 HOMES IN OUR PORT TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOW FLOODING.
10:11:01 THESE ARE HOMES THAT DID NOT FLOOD IN THE PAST.
10:11:04 WITH TWO SMALL CHILDREN WILL MY FAMILY NOW HAVE TO WORRY
10:11:07 ABOUT FLOODING WHEN WE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE?
10:11:10 WE CAN HAVE ALL THE WRITTEN EVIDENCE IN THE WORLD THAT
10:11:12 THE DRAINAGE WILL SUFFICE, AS I'M SURE THE SURROUNDING
10:11:16 APARTMENT COMPLEXES HAVE BUT TELLING A DIFFERENT STORY ON
10:11:19 SURROUNDING HOMES.
10:11:20 WILL IT CHANGE OUR FLOOD ZONE DESIGNATION IN THE FUTURE?
10:11:25 IN THE FEBRUARY MEETING IT WAS STATED THAT THE CITY OF
10:11:27 TAMPA ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING AND UNDERUTILIZED BRAND TO
10:11:31 ENSURE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET
10:11:34 THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATION.
10:11:38 MY POINTS IS THAT THE EXPANSION SHOULD COINCIDE WITH THE
10:11:41 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORS WHO DIRECTLY
10:11:44 BORDER THIS PROPERTY, AND WE ARE IN SINGLE HOMES.
10:11:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:11:51 >> THANK YOU.
10:11:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JEAN STROMEYER.
10:11:56 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:11:57 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
10:11:59 >> WAIT, BEFORE I SPEAK, JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS
10:12:02 OUR 7th OUT OF 7, AND WE ARE LAST.
10:12:07 7 OUT OF 7.
10:12:08 AND WE ARE HERE FOR FIVE HOURS LISTENING TO EVERYBODY
10:12:11 ELSE.
10:12:12 THIS IS THE 7th TIME, FIVE HOURS, PLUS THE MEDIATION.
10:12:16 JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW.
10:12:17 I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE -- LAST EVERY TIME.
10:12:22 BUT 7 OUT OF 7.
10:12:26 PLUS THE MEDIATION AND THE EXTRA TIME THAT WE SPEND
10:12:29 PREPARING.
10:12:30 AND LUCKILY, THE ZOOM IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE I WAS ABLE
10:12:34 TO LITERALLY COOK DINNER, I HAD A DINNER PARTY, I DID MY
10:12:39 DISHES, AND SAT HERE AND WATCHED THE WHOLE THING AND THEN
10:12:42 SOME.
10:12:43 SO THE PART ABOUT THE ZOOM IS GREAT.
10:12:45 BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE ALWAYS PLACED LAST ON
10:12:48 THE AGENDA.
10:12:49 EVERY NIGHT.
10:12:50 >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD DINNER YET.
10:12:57 >> SO WE COME IN AT FIVE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
10:13:00 GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:13:02 >> JUST ANOTHER THING, MR. DINGFELDER.
10:13:07 I JUST HEARD ABOUT YOUR DAD.
10:13:09 AND I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT, AND I'M SORRY FOR YOUR
10:13:13 LOSS.
10:13:14 AND I AM SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
10:13:16 I CAN'T IMAGINE.
10:13:17 I'M NOT THERE YET BUT I'M GETTING CLOSE, SO I JUST WANTED
10:13:21 TO SAY --
10:13:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:13:26 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:13:26 >> I AM JEAN STROMEYER, AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN
10:13:33 OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT.
10:13:34 YES, I KNOW IT'S ALREADY AGREED TO BUT WE STILL HAVE
10:13:36 SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, THE OVERBUILDING SOUTH OF
10:13:41 GANDY IS JUST OUT OF CONTROL.
10:13:45 SO WE OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.
10:13:52 THE PLAN IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
10:13:54 PLAN AS WE HAVE SAID.
10:13:56 I HAVE BROUGHT UP ORIGINALLY THE MILITARY BASE AND THE
10:13:59 OVERBUILDING AROUND BY THE BASE HERE.
10:14:02 IT INCLUDES ALL OF SITE TAMPA.
10:14:07 WE KEEP FURTHERING THE DENSITY, WHICH WE DON'T WANT, IT
10:14:12 JUST WOULD BE PRETTY BAD.
10:14:13 THE PROPERTY AS WE KNOW IT, IT'S IN THE COASTAL HIGH
10:14:18 HAZARD AREA.
10:14:19 WE WERE TOLD THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING, THAT IT SHOULDN'T
10:14:21 BE, AND THAT WE DISAGREE WITH THAT.
10:14:24 I THINK -- I'M JUST NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
10:14:31 BUT WE JUST DISAGREE FOR THAT REASON.
10:14:34 ALSO, THE PROPERTY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA
10:14:40 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE SOUTH TAMPA, ESPECIALLY HERE
10:14:45 HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THAT AREA OF STABILITY, NO
10:14:49 SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN DEVELOPMENT PATTERN SHOULD BE
10:14:51 TAKING PLACE HERE.
10:14:56 THE PLAN, IT'S JUST NOT BUILT WITHIN THE CURRENT ZONING
10:15:02 DISTRICT THE WAY ZONING THAT WE BELIEVE.
10:15:06 WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE MORE MIXED USE OF THE PROPERTY
10:15:10 TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS STABILIZED AND HAVE A LITTLE
10:15:13 MORE DIVERSITY HERE AS FAR AS OWNERSHIP, HOME OWNERSHIP
10:15:21 OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD IS ALSO
10:15:25 A BAD THING.
10:15:30 ALSO JUST TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY FROM INDUSTRIAL TO THE
10:15:37 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE, JUST SO
10:15:42 THEY CAN BUILD APARTMENTS TO US IT'S JUST ANOTHER
10:15:45 APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AREA.
10:15:51 WE ARE IN A PENINSULA [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] AND GET OUT OF
10:16:00 HERE WITH ALL THE DENSITY.
10:16:01 WE GOT ST. PETE COMING THROUGH WHEN THEY NEED TO
10:16:05 EVACUATE.
10:16:06 AND WE HAVE EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON BASE.
10:16:08 SO BASICALLY WE ARE SITTING DUCKS.
10:16:10 AND WHEN THE TIME COMES, AND IT WILL COME, THEN ALL THE
10:16:13 PEOPLE THAT ARE STUCK IN THEIR CARS TRYING TO GET OUT ARE
10:16:16 DOOMED, AND EVERYBODY HAS TO ANSWER TO THAT.
10:16:19 I HAVE DONE MY DILIGENCE AND SO HAVE THE REST OF THESE
10:16:22 PEOPLE HAVE DONE WHAT WE COULD TO STOP THIS, BUT IT'S
10:16:25 GONE ON DEAF EARS FOR THE CITY, FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:16:30 AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:16:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:16:35 NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE CAROL ANNE BENNETT.
10:16:41 YOU ARE MUTED.
10:16:43 IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:16:44 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
10:16:50 BEFORE YOU START MY TIME I WOULD LIKE THE ABILITY TO
10:16:53 SHARE MY SCREEN, PLUS IF I COULD GET AN EXTRA MINUTE OR
10:16:57 TWO JUST SO I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS SHARING MY SCREEN.
10:17:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT OKAY TO GIVE FOR COUNCIL
10:17:07 MEMBERS TO GIVE MRS. BENNETT ANOTHER MINUTE?
10:17:11 >> SO MOVED.
10:17:15 >> ALL RIGHT.
10:17:15 >> MY NAME IS CAROL ANNE BENNETT, A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF
10:17:20 SOUTH TAMPA.
10:17:20 ALSO, TAMPA IS IN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA, THE CPA.
10:17:24 THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ONLY IN THE CPA, IT IS IN THE
10:17:27 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, THE CHP.
10:17:31 IT IS ALSO IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
10:17:41 THIS PROPOSED REZONING VIOLATES AND CONFLICTS WITH THE
10:17:44 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:17:46 THE VISION MAN SAYS WHERE GROWTH AND HIGHER DENSITY
10:17:50 SHOULD OCCUR AND NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED
10:17:53 AND STABLE.
10:17:54 THERE ARE SIX ZONES OF INTENSITY.
10:17:58 SOUTH TAMPA IS ONE.
10:18:00 NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
10:18:02 YOU WILL SEE SOUTH TAMPA IS IN NONE OF THE DESIRED GROWTH
10:18:06 CIRCLES.
10:18:11 THE COMP PLAN SAYS TO KEEP POPULATION AWAY FROM THE CHH
10:18:17 AND ACHIEVING NO NET INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL.
10:18:20 THIS REZONING VIOLATES THE COMP PLAN.
10:18:22 THE COMP PLAN SAYS TO MAINTAIN HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIMES.
10:18:27 I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE 421 CARS IN FRONT OF YOU AT AN
10:18:32 INTERSECTION.
10:18:35 DON'T TELL ME WITH STRAIGHT FACE THAT THIS WILL NOT
10:18:37 INCREASE YOUR EVACUATION TIME.
10:18:38 AND DON'T KID YOURSELVES AND DON'T TRY TO KID ME.
10:18:41 THESE PEOPLE WILL PACK THEIR CARS AND DRIVE OUT.
10:18:44 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE A BUS.
10:18:47 THE BUS SHELTERS ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE
10:18:49 WHATSOEVER.
10:18:53 THE COMP PLAN HAS EVACUATION TIMES.
10:18:56 IT SAYS TO ENSURE THE SAFE PASSAGE OF EVACUEES, PROVIDE
10:19:02 TRANSPORTATION FOR SAFE EVACUATION, TO COORDINATION
10:19:04 HURRICANE EVACUATION, AND TO PLACE A PRIORITY ON
10:19:06 MAINTAINING THE CAPACITY OF EVACUATION ROUTES.
10:19:14 PLANNING AND CPA SHOULD RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT, ENSURE THAT
10:19:18 EVACUATION TIMES DO NOT DETERIORATE AND THAT SAFE AND
10:19:20 TIMELY EVACUATION IS NOT ADVERSELY IMPACTED.
10:19:24 PUBLIC EXPENDITURES SHOULD NOT ENCOURAGE GROWTH IN C HA
10:19:29 AND COASTAL HIGH HAZARD SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN EACH LAND
10:19:32 USE DECISION.
10:19:34 THE PLAN SAYS TO ENSURE NEW DEVELOPMENT, MINIMIZE RISK
10:19:39 FROM HURRICANES, ENSURE THAT THE POPULATION CAN BE SAFELY
10:19:43 EVACUATED, AND DENSITY INCREASES OUTSIDE THE AREAS SHOULD
10:19:47 BE DISCOURAGED.
10:19:49 IT INCREASES IN THE DENSITY SHOULD BE MINIMAL THERE.
10:19:52 SHOULD BE LITTLE OR NO INCREASE IN EVACUATION TIMES AND
10:19:55 THERE SHOULD BE NO NET GAIN IN POPULATION IN CHH.
10:20:04 THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT GOAL IS TO PROTECT HUMAN LIFE.
10:20:10 WE DON'T WANT TO DIE SITTING IN OUR CARS.
10:20:14 SITTING OUT A HURRICANE IN OUR CARS.
10:20:16 AS A RESULT OF THE -- THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED BILL
10:20:21 71.1 WHICH REQUIRES GROWTH MANAGEMENT BE UPDATED
10:20:26 EVACUATION STUDY.
10:20:28 THEIR INTENT IS PERFECTLY CLEAR.
10:20:29 FLORIDA LAW LEGALLY REQUIRES YOU TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT
10:20:32 OF EVACUATION.
10:20:35 NO ONE CAN SHOW ME THIS EVALUATION IS BEING DONE, AND
10:20:38 BELIEVE ME I HAVE ASKED.
10:20:40 NO ONE CAN TELL ME HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO EVACUATE -- I
10:20:46 HAVE ASKED.
10:20:51 THE COMP PLAN REQUIRES CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ADVERSE
10:20:54 IMPACTS TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:20:57 DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE.
10:20:59 THE CITY SHALL ASSESS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF DEVELOPMENT
10:21:02 ON THE PATTERN AND CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
10:21:05 THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
10:21:08 THE CITY SHOULD PROTECT THE LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY
10:21:11 AREAS, MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF SINGLE-FAMILY
10:21:14 RESIDENTIAL AREAS, INCLUDING DENSITY CHARACTERISTICS,
10:21:19 MAINTAIN THE CURRENT DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF EXISTING
10:21:22 SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS, AND PROTECT AREAS OF THE LOWEST
10:21:26 INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THIS.
10:21:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM NOT -- COME ON.
10:21:33 I WAITED FIVE HOURS.
10:21:37 1 MONTE 2.3 --
10:21:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:21:41 MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:21:42 I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL DID SAY
10:21:45 FOUR MINUTES.
10:21:47 IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE ADDITIONAL TIME, THEN COUNCIL
10:21:49 CAN TAKE THAT UP.
10:21:51 I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT MS. CORBETT HAS THE
10:21:54 OPPORTUNITY UNDER COUNCIL'S RULES AND I CAN RECITE THEM
10:21:56 TO ADDITIONAL TIME FOR REBUTTAL AS A RESULT OF DUE
10:21:59 PROCESS CONSIDERATIONS.
10:22:02 I ASK COUNCIL --
10:22:06 >>> ANY OBJECTION?
10:22:08 REMEMBER TO THE APPLICANT, WE EXTEND THE SAME COURTESY TO
10:22:13 THEM SHOULD THEY REQUEST.
10:22:17 ONE MORE MINUTE.
10:22:18 GO AHEAD.
10:22:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:22:21 POLICY 1 PONTE 2.3 REQUIRES ANNUAL REVIEW OF NEW
10:22:24 DEVELOPMENT IN THE CPA TO MONITOR IMPACT ON EVACUATION
10:22:28 TIME.
10:22:28 THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:22:31 I AM OFFICIALLY REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER THIS
10:22:34 REVIEW AS THE COMP PLAN MANDATES.
10:22:37 LAST SCREEN.
10:22:39 IT HAS NEVER BEEN LONG THAT LAND OWNER IS ENTITLED TO THE
10:22:43 HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THEIR LAND, BUT THEY KNEW THE
10:22:50 ZONING BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
10:22:51 THERE ARE 60 PLUS USES THEY ARE ENTITLED TO.
10:22:55 THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO FURTHER ENTITLEMENTS.
10:22:57 REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY WAS DENIED IN 2018 BY THE
10:23:00 PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL AND IT SHOULD BE DENIED AGAIN.
10:23:02 THANK YOU.
10:23:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:05 NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNTER.
10:23:07 >> GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.
10:23:10 I AM GOING TO MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET.
10:23:17 HERE WE ARE.
10:23:17 THIS IS THE THIRD TIME.
10:23:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME.
10:23:21 >> I'M SORRY, MY BAD.
10:23:22 MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POINTER.
10:23:25 I AM A LICENSED REALTOR AND PROPERTY MANAGER.
10:23:28 I ACTUALLY OWN A HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF McCOY AND
10:23:32 LANIER LESS THAN 1,000 FEET AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY.
10:23:37 AND McCOY IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET, NOT A MAIN
10:23:40 THOROUGHFARE.
10:23:42 THERE ARE SPEED HUMPS ON THAT STREET, AND I ACTUALLY
10:23:46 PROBABLY PROMPTED THE WARNING FROM MR. SHELBY EARLIER
10:23:50 TODAY BECAUSE I TOLD EVERYBODY TO CALL IN.
10:23:53 SO THAT TIME WAS MISCONSTRUED ON THE WEBSITE AND I
10:23:57 APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BUT EVERYONE WHO CALLED YOU WAS AT
10:23:59 LEAST IN THEIR 80s BECAUSE THEY CALLED ME ON THE PHONE
10:24:03 BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A COMPUTER AND THEY DO NOT GO
10:24:05 OUT AT NIGHT.
10:24:06 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
10:24:09 WE ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE THIRD TIME, THE SECOND CITY
10:24:15 COUNCIL HAS HEARD THIS PROPERTY.
10:24:18 MR. KEATING BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY KNOWING THAT IT HAD BEEN
10:24:20 TURNED DOWN FOR REZONING.
10:24:22 MR. KEATING KNEW THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO TELL HIM KNOW,
10:24:27 BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD NO BEFORE HE STARTED BEFORE THE CITY
10:24:30 COUNCIL.
10:24:31 WHEN HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, HE BRAGGED ALL OVER THE
10:24:34 INTERNET THAT HE WAS GOING TO PUT OTHER BUSINESSES IN
10:24:36 THERE.
10:24:38 ALL OF A SUDDEN WE NEED APARTMENTS.
10:24:41 BUT NO BIG DEAL.
10:24:42 THE COMP PLAN, WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT, SOUTH TAMPA IS
10:24:51 A LEVEL ONE.
10:24:54 THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
10:24:55 IT'S IN AN ESTABLISHED AREA THAT SHOULD NOT -- IS
10:24:59 PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD, SHOWS
10:25:06 ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS.
10:25:08 I COULD READ THOSE TO YOU BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE COMP
10:25:10 PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
10:25:14 TO THE EAST OF OUR PROPERTY ARE SINGLE STORY HOMES EXCEPT
10:25:17 ONE.
10:25:18 WHY DO I KNOW THIS?
10:25:19 BECAUSE I WALKED ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:25:23 TO THE SOUTH, ALSO, ALL SINGLE STORY HOMES.
10:25:28 SO THESE PEOPLE LOOK OUT THEIR WINDOWS AND LOOK INTO
10:25:32 THESE FOLKS LIKE MARY KATE'S BACKYARD.
10:25:36 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PUT IN PLACE THAT WE ARE ALREADY
10:25:41 AT -- I'M SORRY, AT 85,000 PEOPLE, AND THE COMP PLAN
10:25:48 CALLS FOR US TO BE IN 2040 TO BE AT 78 SO WE ARE WELL
10:25:53 OVER OUR NUMBERS FOR THIS.
10:25:55 AND BY THE WAY, DON'T FORGET, THAT MacDILL HAS
10:25:59 APPROXIMATELY 20 THAT YOU PEOPLE WHO WORK AT IT AND 527
10:26:03 UNITS ON BASE.
10:26:05 THAT'S FROM MacDILL'S IMPACT STATEMENT OF THE
10:26:09 ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT.
10:26:12 WE ARE OVER BY 10,000 PEOPLE.
10:26:14 BUT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 20 THAT YOU PEOPLE WHO MOVE
10:26:17 THROUGH OUR CORRIDOR DAILY.
10:26:22 IT'S OKAY.
10:26:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:24 >> THANK YOU.
10:26:27 HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:26:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU TOO.
10:26:28 NEXT UP IS MR. STEVE MEADOWS.
10:26:30 >> MY NAME IS STEVE MEADOWS.
10:26:33 I LIVE AT 7512 SOUTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:26:36 I'M THE TREASURER OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION OF PORT TAMPA.
10:26:40 I AM HERE TO OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY.
10:26:46 YOU SHOULD KNOW THE REASONS FOR THE RED SHIRT.
10:26:49 I THINK WE HAVE BEEN WEARING THEM THROUGH THE WHOLE TERM
10:26:53 WITH ALL THESE REZONING HEARINGS.
10:26:57 SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT REDUNDANT.
10:27:01 WE TALKED ABOUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, THE FACT
10:27:04 THAT THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA,
10:27:08 AND THE IDEA BEHIND THAT UNDERSTOOD OBJECTIVE 1.1 IS TO
10:27:16 KEEP POPULATION CONCENTRATION AWAY FROM THE COASTAL HIGH
10:27:20 HAZARD AREA TO HAVE NO INCREASE IN OVERALL RESIDENTIAL
10:27:24 DENSITY.
10:27:25 THERE'S ALSO SO STUFF ABOUT HURRICANE EVACUATION WHICH
10:27:28 BRINGS UP THE FACT THAT DALE MABRY IS THE DESIGNATED
10:27:32 ROUTE, BUT DALE MABRY IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HOLD THE
10:27:35 TRAFFIC, OR CARRY THE TRAFFIC PARTICULARLY WELL WHEN
10:27:41 EVERYBODY TRIES TO GET OUT, BECAUSE MANHATTAN FLOODS
10:27:44 BEFORE YOU GET TO GANDY, AND MANHATTAN FLOODS AT
10:27:48 EL PRADO, MacDILL FLOODS AT EL PRADO, AND
10:27:53 MacDILL, BAYSHORE FLOODS.
10:27:56 SO YOU BASICALLY CUT OFF 90% OF THE NORTH-SOUTH
10:28:01 EVACUATION ROUTE AND THE FACT THAT ST. PETERSBURG BRINGS
10:28:04 THEIR TRAFFIC THROUGH SOUTH TAMPA, AND IF YOU EVER COMA
10:28:08 CROSS GANDY BRIDGE GOING EASTBOUND AT 3 P.M., YOU ARE
10:28:13 BASICALLY LOOKING AT A 45 MINUTE RUN ACROSS GANDY BRIDGE.
10:28:17 SO YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET ACROSS THAT QUAY VERY EASY.
10:28:20 AT LEAST UNLESS YOU LEAVE THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE.
10:28:25 OTHER THAN THAT, I NOTICED THAT SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT
10:28:31 THERE WAS A GREEN SPACE ACROSS THE NORTH END.
10:28:35 IF THIS THING DOES PASS, YOU MAY WANT TO GIVE UP THE TWO
10:28:39 BUS STOPS THAT NOBODY WILL USE, ACTUALLY PUT SO OF THAT
10:28:44 MONEY TO START THE GREEN SPACE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
10:28:48 PROPERTY.
10:28:50 THAT WILL PROBABLY ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING, AND ALSO HELP
10:28:53 THE CITY FINISH THE OTHER PORTION OF IT THAT RUNS OVER TO
10:28:58 MANHATTAN.
10:29:02 THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR ME.
10:29:03 I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK.
10:29:08 THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
10:29:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:12 AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE AGAIN
10:29:15 THERE WAS NOBODY AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER TO SPEAK
10:29:18 LIVE.
10:29:20 HAVING SAID THAT, TO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
10:29:25 BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE WE GO TO REBUTTAL BY THE
10:29:29 PETITIONER?
10:29:29 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
10:29:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:29:33 LEADERSHIP.
10:29:34 IT'S A LONG NIGHT.
10:29:35 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, WE HAD SEVERAL FOLKS THAT SPOKE
10:29:41 OPPORTUNITY.
10:29:42 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: MS. BENNETT AND MRS. POINTER WERE
10:29:50 THE TWO THAT ATTENDED BOTH HEARINGS AS WELL AS THE AUGUST
10:29:55 5th MEETING SO THEY CAN COMMENT ON THE PLAN THAT'S
10:29:58 BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
10:29:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN REFERENCE TO THE MEDIATION PROCESS?
10:30:06 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ABSOLUTELY.
10:30:07 AND JUDGE CASE CAN CONFIRM THAT AS WELL BUT YES, THEY
10:30:10 WERE.
10:30:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEAR THEM SPEAKING TONIGHT.
10:30:18 WERE SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS LOOKED INTO AND PUT INTO THIS
10:30:21 MEDIATION PROCESS?
10:30:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUDGE CASE?
10:30:27 >> JUDGE CASE: YES.
10:30:30 THE PEOPLE THAT WERE NOTIFIED WHO ARE REQUIRED TO BE
10:30:32 NOTIFIED, PLUS EXPERTS THAT MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ'S OFFICE
10:30:38 EXPANDED THE CIRCLE OF FRIENDS, IF YOU WILL, THAT WERE
10:30:40 INCLUDED, THEY WERE INVITED TO AND THEY PARTICIPATED AND
10:30:45 SOME OF THEM PARTICIPATED IN MEDIATION AS WELL AS THE
10:30:48 HEARING AS WELL AS THE FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT
10:30:52 THE SETTLEMENT.
10:30:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:58 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:31:00 ALL RIGHT.
10:31:02 HEARING NONE --
10:31:08 >>LUIS VIERA: I WISH TO ASK MRS. JOHNSON-VELEZ.
10:31:11 COULD YOU INDICATE US FOR PURPOSES OF TONIGHT -- AND WE
10:31:14 HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS, BUT IF WE WERE TO NOT PROCEED
10:31:18 WITH THIS MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, WHAT WOULD BE --
10:31:23 COULD YOU GO THROUGH THE DAMAGES, SPECIFICALLY, THAT ARE
10:31:26 BEING SOUGHT?
10:31:27 HOW ARE THEY QUANTIFIED?
10:31:29 IS IT LOSS OF USE, LOSS OF PROFIT, HOURLY ATTORNEY FEES?
10:31:34 IF YOU COULD GO THROUGH THAT.
10:31:35 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I AM GOING TO ASK MR. HARVEY, WHO
10:31:39 IS HANDLING THE LITIGATION PORTION OF THIS FOR OUR
10:31:42 OFFICE, TO ADDRESS THAT.
10:31:43 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. HARVEY, IF YOU DON'T MIND DOING THAT,
10:31:48 SIR.
10:31:48 >> MR. HARVEY: IN 1983 -- --
10:31:57 >>> YOU ARE MUTED.
10:32:01 MR. SHELBY IS MUTED.
10:32:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE I
10:32:05 AM HAVING TROUBLE HEARING HIM.
10:32:06 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
10:32:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:32:15 >> THE COST OF THE PROPERTY, LOST OPPORTUNITY COSTS, LOST
10:32:21 PROFITS, WITH THE APPLICATION, AND DOES PROVIDE FOR
10:32:31 ATTORNEY FEES.
10:32:35 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IF THEY MAKE ANY
10:32:40 KIND OF RECOVERY, THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED TO PROPORTIONATE
10:32:42 ATTORNEY FEES?
10:32:44 HOURLY FEES?
10:32:45 >> MR. HARVEY: CORRECT.
10:32:50 >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE KNOW WHAT THE HOURLY RATE IS FOR
10:32:53 THIS TYPE OF WORK?
10:32:54 BECAUSE I AM JUST AN INSURANCE DEFENSE LAWYER.
10:32:57 I DON'T DO --
10:33:05 >> I GUESS MR. McGRATH IS PREPARING --
10:33:14 >>LUIS VIERA: I GOT IN THE WRONG AREA OF LAW.
10:33:16 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:33:16 >>BILL CARLSON: I COULD ASK THE SAME PERSON PLEASE, WHAT
10:33:21 HAPPENS IF THE CITY WINS THE SUIT?
10:33:23 >> IF THE CITY WINS, THEY WOULD NOT RECOVER FEES.
10:33:30 >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE COLLECT DAMAGES IN THAT CASE?
10:33:34 WOULD THEY HAVE TO PAY OUR ATTORNEY FEES?
10:33:36 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]
10:33:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:33:46 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
10:33:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE LOSE, WE PAY THEIR FEES.
10:33:54 IF WE WIN, WE DON'T COLLECT ANY DAMAGES? IS THAT
10:33:57 CORRECT, MR. HARVEY?
10:33:59 >> HARVEY: THEY ARE THE PLAINTIFFS IN THE LAWSUIT.
10:34:05 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ALSO GET AN ATTORNEY TO EXPLAIN
10:34:13 TO ME, IF SOMEBODY SAID WHEN THERE IS AN ENTITLEMENT THE
10:34:16 LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE ENTITLEMENT AND TAKE IT
10:34:19 AWAY TO COMPENSATE SOMEBODY, BUT WHY IS THERE A
10:34:22 PRESUMPTION THAT SOMEONE HAD THE RIGHT TO NEW ENTITLEMENT
10:34:26 WHEN THEY ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN ENTITLEMENT RIGHT NOW?
10:34:28 WHY IS THE THERE A PRESUMPTION THAT THAT IS OKAY?
10:34:31 >> WELL, I BELIEVE WHAT WAS SAID WITH THE LAW IS THERE'S
10:34:38 A PRESUMPTION THAT THE EXISTING ZONING IS VALID, AND
10:34:42 THERE IS CASE LAW THAT SUPPORTS THE NOTION THAT A LAND
10:34:45 OWNER IS NOT ENTITLED TO THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
10:34:50 THEY ARE NOT SEEKING THE HIGHEST USE.
10:34:53 IT HAS BEEN REDUCED A COUPLE OF TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF
10:34:55 THIS FROM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
10:34:58 THROUGH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
10:35:00 SO I AM NOT SURE IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION BUT --
10:35:05 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:35:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
10:35:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, YOU SPOKE
10:35:11 ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
10:35:13 YOU DID BRIEF US ON THE WITH THREE BUILDINGS AND SO ON,
10:35:21 BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED THIS CIRCUIT COURT.
10:35:24 THERE IS A CASE FILED IN CIRCUIT COURT, AM I CORRECT?
10:35:28 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:35:30 STAYED UNTIL THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE CONCLUDED.
10:35:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND YOU SAID IT WAS FOR DAMAGES, AND
10:35:36 I FORGOT WHAT ELSE.
10:35:39 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THERE ARE TWO COUNTS.
10:35:40 ONE IS THE PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI CHALLENGING
10:35:44 THE DENIAL OF CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION STOW DENY THE
10:35:48 ORIGINAL APPLICATION LAST FEBRUARY AND THE SECOND COUNT
10:35:50 IS FOR DAMAGES UNDER 40 USA SECTION 1983.
10:35:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ASKED FOR MOTION FOR STAY AND THE
10:35:59 COURT GRANTED YOU A MOTION FOR STAY?
10:36:03 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:36:04 THE PARTIES SUBMITTED A JOINT MOTION FOR STAY.
10:36:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR
10:36:12 OPINION IN THIS CASE BUT HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED WHAT THE
10:36:16 DAMAGES ARE?
10:36:18 WHERE THE CITY LOSES?
10:36:22 I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY.
10:36:23 I AM NOT A CPA.
10:36:24 I'M NOTHING.
10:36:25 BUT I LOOKED AT IF YOU HAVE A 204 UNITS AT 1,000 WHICH IS
10:36:32 LESS THAN THE GOING RATE, THAT'S 204,000 A MONTH TIMES
10:36:35 12, 204,000.
10:36:38 DOLLARS A YEAR.
10:36:41 2.48 MILLION A YEAR.
10:36:45 PLUS ATTORNEY FEES.
10:36:46 PLUS COSTS.
10:36:48 PLUS, PLUS, PLUS.
10:36:51 SO THE CITY PAID SOMETHING UPWARD OF A COUPLE OF MILLION
10:36:56 MINIMUM.
10:36:57 THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
10:36:59 AND I AM NOT A MITIGATE OR.
10:37:03 I AM NOT LIKE JUDGE CASE.
10:37:05 I AM NOT LIKE JUDGE HARVEY.
10:37:07 BUT I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE CASES THAT THE CITY WAS IN.
10:37:10 AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT -- I AM NOT A LAWYER.
10:37:14 AND I SHOULDN'T SAY THESE THINGS BUT I AM LOOKING AT THEM
10:37:17 NOW.
10:37:18 I READ EVERYTHING THAT I WROTE DOWN, MOST OF WHAT
10:37:22 EVERYONE SAID.
10:37:24 AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY THE FACTS, AND THEY AGREED.
10:37:32 EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST SAID TO THE LAW.
10:37:35 THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
10:37:37 AND THAT'S WHY I NEED SOME HELP.
10:37:39 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, CERTAINLY, AND DAVID MIGHT
10:37:44 WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS FURTHER, BUT CERTAINLY THE CITY
10:37:47 CURRENTLY SUBJECT TO UNKNOWN EXPOSURE FOR UNKNOWN AMOUNT
10:37:50 OF DAMAGES, AS I SAID, THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGES THAT THEY
10:37:55 MIGHT CLAIM HAVE NOT BEEN QUANTIFIED YET.
10:37:57 SO THERE IS A RISK OF EXPOSURE THAT WOULD REMAIN OPEN
10:38:00 WITH THE CITY NOT ACCEPTING THE SETTLEMENT THIS EVENING.
10:38:05 I DON'T KNOW IF DAVID WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT.
10:38:07 >> I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA THAT IN THE
10:38:12 EVENT THE CITY DID NOT PREVAIL IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT
10:38:17 DAMAGES.
10:38:17 THIS IS NOT A COURT ACTION.
10:38:22 ATTORNEY FEES, COSTS.
10:38:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MISSED IT.
10:38:29 I'M SORRY.
10:38:33 I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE AND I
10:38:36 APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
10:38:37 THANK YOU.
10:38:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:38:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MONETARY DISCUSSION CONCERNS ME
10:38:51 GREATLY.
10:38:52 FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S THE KIND OF DISCUSSION THAT ALL
10:38:57 COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE OFFLINE, WITH MRS.
10:39:03 JOHNSON-VELEZ, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE KIND OF
10:39:06 DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE HAVING ONLINE FOR THIS FOR A
10:39:08 VARIETY OF REASONS.
10:39:12 BUT I WILL SAY THAT -- AND I AM NOT SAYING HOW I AM GOING
10:39:16 TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
10:39:18 I HAVEN'T DECIDED YET, BECAUSE MR. SHELBY HAS TOLD US WE
10:39:22 SHOULD WAIT UNTIL WE HEAR ALL THE INFORMATION.
10:39:26 BUT I WILL SAY THAT WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THIS MONETARY
10:39:29 DISCUSSION IS THAT IT ENCOURAGES ANY DEVELOPER WHO COMES
10:39:36 ALONG AND GETS THEIR PROJECT TURNED DOWN BY CITY COUNCIL
10:39:42 TO JUST TURN AROUND, HIRE MR. McLAREN, FILE A LAWSUIT,
10:39:48 OKAY, AND THREATEN US WITH ALL SORTS OF DAMAGES, 1983,
10:39:56 EVERYTHING ELSE, AND WE FOLD, AND YADA YADA, AND THE
10:40:02 CONCERN I HAVE IS NOT ONLY IS IT BAD FORM FOR THIS
10:40:04 COUNCIL, BUT LOOK AT THE MESSAGE THAT IT SENDS TO THE
10:40:09 COMMUNITY THAT THIS REZONING, YOU KNOW, THIS REZONING
10:40:14 PROCESS AND POTENTIALLY -- I AM NOT SAYING THAT IN
10:40:23 REFERENCE TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
10:40:24 LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T DECIDED HOW I AM GOING TO GO ON
10:40:27 IT.
10:40:27 BUT I THINK IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE, ALL RIGHT, WHEN WE
10:40:31 JUST SAY, WELL, WE ARE SCARED.
10:40:37 THAT'S LIFE IN THIS WORLD.
10:40:39 OKAY.
10:40:40 YOU CAN ALWAYS GET SUED.
10:40:43 YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS IN TERMS OF
10:40:46 HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD.
10:40:48 SO I URGE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT,
10:40:52 SEE IF IT'S A FAIR DEAL, IN LIGHT OF THE EVIDENCE, AND
10:40:57 NOT WORRY ABOUT -- NOT LOOK OVER OUR SHOULDER IN TERMS OF
10:41:01 BEING SUED AND THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGES AND THIS AND THAT.
10:41:04 WE HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY, OKAY?
10:41:07 AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE
10:41:13 COMMUNITY ON THIS.
10:41:13 EACH ONE THESE IS A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, BASED ON THE
10:41:17 EVIDENCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
10:41:18 BUT IF WE GET PREOCCUPIED WITH LAWSUITS AND MONEY AND
10:41:23 THAT SORT OF THING, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT EVEN WASTE
10:41:28 OUR TIME FIVE HOURS LATER INTO THIS EVENING DOING THIS.
10:41:31 WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST RUBBER STAMP THESE THINGS AND WE
10:41:34 CAN DO IT IN A HALF HOUR.
10:41:37 IT'S A CHILLING EFFECT, AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
10:41:39 SO LET'S NOT ALLOW OURSELVES TO SUCCUMB TO THAT, AND
10:41:45 LET'S JUST BASE THESE CASES AND OUR DECISION ON THE
10:41:48 EVIDENCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
10:41:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:54 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:41:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT NEVER CROSSED ANYBODY'S MIND.
10:42:06 I ALWAYS TAKE THE FACTS THAT I SEE BEFORE ME.
10:42:09 I THINK I AM ENTITLED TO DO THAT AS I DID EARLIER.
10:42:15 I SAY WHAT I BELIEVE IN AND I'LL TAKE ANYBODY ON, ON ANY
10:42:20 TIME ON ANYTHING I EVER SAY AND PROVE IT.
10:42:23 I CAN PROVE ON BAYSHORE AND BAY TO BAY.
10:42:28 I CAN PROVE EVERYTHING I SAY.
10:42:30 I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU ONLY -- WHEN YOU HAVE A REAL
10:42:37 CHANCE OF WINNING.
10:42:38 I DIDN'T SAY I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
10:42:40 BUT I CAN SAY THIS.
10:42:41 YOU LOOK AT THE FACTS AND YOU DECIDE FOR THE WHOLE CITY
10:42:46 OF TAMPA, NOT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT'S HURTING.
10:42:50 AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THEM.
10:42:52 BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AND BE REASONABLE WHETHER YOU DO
10:42:56 SOMETHING WHETHER IT'S A PENNY, OR A MILLION DOLLARS,
10:42:59 BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER HAVE A PENNY A DAY AND DOUBLE IT
10:43:03 THAN GIVE YOU A MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE A PENNY A DAY
10:43:07 DOUBLING FOR 30 DAYS.
10:43:08 SO I AM SAYING WHAT I KNOW.
10:43:10 I'M SAYING WHAT I HAVE SUFFERED FOR THE CITY.
10:43:13 I'M SAYING WHAT THE CITY HAS SUFFERED ON MISTAKES IN THE
10:43:16 PAST.
10:43:18 I THINK I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
10:43:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:43:22 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
10:43:24 THANK YOU.
10:43:25 AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
10:43:27 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BRINGS UP, I THINK, A WORTHY POINT,
10:43:30 WHICH IS WE DON'T WANT TO IN EVERY SINGLE LAND USE
10:43:34 MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, ET CETERA, THAT WE HAVE BE
10:43:37 AFRAID OF THE SPECTER OF ATTORNEY FEES.
10:43:41 THAT'S NOT THE WAY A CITY SHOULD FUNCTION.
10:43:43 WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE.
10:43:45 BUT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE UNDER THE RULES THAT WE HAVE.
10:43:47 AND THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS BECAUSE WE HAVE
10:43:49 REPORTS FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH
10:43:53 FINDS THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE, CONSISTENT
10:43:55 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA IS LOOKING FOR, ET CETERA.
10:43:59 AND I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING, GIVEN THAT, THAT WE
10:44:02 SHOULD CONSIDER.
10:44:03 GIVEN THAT, THAT WE CONSIDER.
10:44:05 I DON'T THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP TO THIS LEVEL IN ANY
10:44:08 OTHER HEARING IN THE PAST.
10:44:10 I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER ALL OF OUR OPTIONS,
10:44:14 WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE
10:44:18 GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO US
10:44:23 PROSPECTIVELY?
10:44:25 I JUST THINK FOR FUTURE HEARINGS, AGAIN, THE ISSUE OF A
10:44:29 CHILLING EFFECT I THINK IS WELL TAKEN, BUT I THINK THE
10:44:32 POINT OF DISTINGUISHING ON THIS ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE THE
10:44:36 FINDINGS THAT WE HAVE ON CITY STAFF.
10:44:39 SO THEREFORE WE SHOULD JUST PROCEED KNOWING WHAT COULD
10:44:43 HAPPEN, BECAUSE IT COULD BE VERY, VERY BAD.
10:44:46 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- I AM NOT GOING TO GUESS IN TERMS
10:44:49 OF HOW MUCH MONEY IT IS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:44:52 IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE A LOT.
10:44:53 AND, YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING
10:44:56 A CRA IN ORDER TO SPEND SOME MONEY FOR THE CITY.
10:45:00 WELL, WE COULD CAP THE CRA AND USE THAT MONEY FOR
10:45:03 ATTORNEY FEES IF THIS DOESN'T GO AWAY.
10:45:05 I SAME THAT AS A JOKE OBVIOUSLY.
10:45:09 IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED TO BE JUST BE AWARE OF THE
10:45:12 REASONABLE CONSEQUENCES WHEN THERE IS SUCH VIABLE RISK
10:45:16 BEFORE US.
10:45:17 THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
10:45:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:45:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:45:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK CONVERSELY, WE ALSO NEED TO
10:45:26 MAYBE SET A PRECEDENT, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S ONE THAT WE
10:45:29 LOST IN THE PAST DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE COULDN'T, IF WE ARE
10:45:34 PREPARED, WIN ONE, AND THEN THAT WOULD SERVE AS A
10:45:37 BASELINE TO EXPLAIN THAT ENTITLEMENT IS NOT AN
10:45:41 ENTITLEMENT.
10:45:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:45:45 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:45:48 HEARING NONE, MS. CORBETT, YOU HAVE YOUR REBUTTAL.
10:45:52 >>KAMI CORBETT: YES, THANK YOU.
10:45:56 COULD I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
10:45:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE, GO AHEAD.
10:45:58 >>KAMI CORBETT: AND I WOULD LIKE DAVID HEY FROM THE
10:46:03 PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE ROOM.
10:46:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE'S HERE.
10:46:05 >>KAMI CORBETT: MR. HEY, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING
10:46:29 OPINION, AS THE DESIGNATED HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING FOR THE
10:46:34 CITY OF TAMPA, IS THE APPROVAL OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON
10:46:37 THIS SITE INCONSISTENT WITH COASTAL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE
10:46:39 1.1 WHICH I DISPLAYED ON MY SCREEN?
10:46:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT I WANT
10:46:49 TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
10:46:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:46:55 DO I SEE DINGFELDER?
10:47:00 I DON'T SEE DINGFELDER.
10:47:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, COUNCIL
10:47:05 MEMBERS.
10:47:05 OH, THERE HE IS.
10:47:07 THANK YOU.
10:47:07 IF YOU CAN, JUST REMAIN ON VIDEO.
10:47:10 IF YOU PLAN ON, OBVIOUSLY, STAYING FOR THE HEARING.
10:47:15 AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO DEPORT, PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT SO
10:47:18 IT'S ON THE RECORD.
10:47:19 THANK YOU.
10:47:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. CORBETT, I AM GOING TO START YOU
10:47:23 NOW.
10:47:24 >>KAMI CORBETT: MR. HEY, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING
10:47:27 OPINION AS THE DESIGNATED TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING
10:47:29 COMMISSION LIAISON FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, IS THE APPROVAL
10:47:32 OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON THIS SITE INCONSISTENT WITH THE
10:47:35 COASTAL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.1, OR IS IT CONSISTENT
10:47:39 WITH IT?
10:47:40 >>DAVID HEY: IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT POLICY,
10:47:49 RESIDENTIAL.
10:47:50 >>KAMI CORBETT: THANK YOU.
10:47:52 IS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE REQUIRED TO ANALYZE IMPACTS
10:47:55 TO HURRICANE EVACUATION?
10:47:59 >>DAVID HEY: NO, THAT IS TYPICALLY DONE AT A PLAN
10:48:02 AMENDMENT STAGE.
10:48:05 >>KAMI CORBETT: AND CONSISTENT WITH POLICY 1.2.5,
10:48:08 CORRECT?
10:48:09 >>DAVID HEY: CORRECT.
10:48:10 THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD LOOK AT HURRICANE EVACUATION AT ANY
10:48:15 PLAN AMENDMENT STAGE.
10:48:16 >>KAMI CORBETT: AND ALSO, I GUESS BACK ON THAT SLIDE, IF
10:48:25 WE WERE IN A PLAN AMENDMENT, AND HURRICANE EVACUATION
10:48:28 TIMES HAD TO BE MITIGATED, IS THE VOLUNTARY SITE PLAN AND
10:48:32 THE TRANSIT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE APPLICANT OFFER
10:48:35 CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE NORMALLY
10:48:37 CONSIDERED TO MITIGATE FOR HURRICANE EVACUATION TIMES?
10:48:40 >>DAVID HEY: THEY CAN BE, YES.
10:48:44 THEY CAN BE, JUST LIKE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE
10:48:49 OFFERED.
10:48:49 >>KAMI CORBETT: AS LISTED IN THE POLICY.
10:48:53 OKAY.
10:48:54 IS THE APPLICANT REQUIRED TO MITIGATE FOR HURRICANE
10:48:56 SHELTER SPACE?
10:48:57 >>DAVID HEY: YES.
10:48:59 AT A REZONING STAGE THEY NEED TO DO IT AT PERMITTING.
10:49:02 >>KAMI CORBETT: NEED TO DO IT AT PERMITTING.
10:49:05 OKAY.
10:49:05 WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC, WHAT DOES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:49:08 REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO DO TO MITIGATE IMPACTS FOR
10:49:11 TRANSPORTATION?
10:49:12 I THINK I HAVE THE RELEVANT POLICIES HIGHLIGHTED FOR YOU
10:49:15 ON MY SCREEN.
10:49:16 >>DAVID HEY: WELL, WE WOULD LOOK AT, AGAIN -- LET ME
10:49:25 READ THE OBJECTIVES.
10:49:26 >>KAMI CORBETT: LET ME BACK UP.
10:49:28 IS THIS SITE LOCATED IN A TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY
10:49:32 EXCEPTION AREA?
10:49:33 >>DAVID HEY: YES.
10:49:34 SOUTH OF FLETCHER, EVERYTHING IS TRANSPORTATION
10:49:40 CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA.
10:49:42 >>KAMI CORBETT: SO IS TRAFFIC MITIGATED THROUGH THE
10:49:45 CONTRIBUTION THAT MITIGATION PAYMENTS, TRANSPORTATION
10:49:48 MITIGATION PAYMENTS?
10:49:49 >>DAVID HEY: NO.
10:49:53 >>KAMI CORBETT: IS THAT REQUIRED?
10:49:56 >>DAVID HEY: RIGHT.
10:49:57 WITH IT BEING IN AN EXCEPTION AREA, WOULDN'T NEED TO MEET
10:50:02 THAT.
10:50:03 >>KAMI CORBETT: OKAY.
10:50:04 THANK YOU.
10:50:05 IN YOUR OPINION, IS THE PROPOSED REVISED SITE PLAN
10:50:07 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IS THE
10:50:10 MULTIFAMILY USE COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN
10:50:13 THE AREA?
10:50:14 >>DAVID HEY: IT'S CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE.
10:50:16 >>KAMI CORBETT: THANK YOU.
10:50:18 ONE LAST QUESTION, YOU HAD REFERRED TO EARLIER IN
10:50:23 RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN'S QUESTION THE INDUSTRIAL PLAN
10:50:26 POLICIES FOR THE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY.
10:50:29 DOES THAT -- DOES THAT CATEGORY ALSO CONTAIN POLICIES
10:50:32 THAT PROHIBIT RESIDENTIAL USES TO BE LOCATED IN CLOSE
10:50:36 PROXIMITY TO IT?
10:50:37 >>DAVID HEY: WELL, INDUSTRIAL DOES NOT ALLOW RESIDENTIAL
10:50:41 AS A USE, AS ONE OF THE ALLOWED USES.
10:50:45 >>KAMI CORBETT: THANK YOU THANK YOU.
10:50:51 >>DAVID HEY: IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION.
10:50:53 >>KAMI CORBETT: YES THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
10:50:54 I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON VERY BRIEFLY SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.
10:50:58 THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS AND WRITTEN COMMENTS SUBMITTED
10:51:01 INTO THE RECORD.
10:51:02 JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT 205 DWELLING UNITS WOULD
10:51:05 GENERATE 24 ELEMENTARY, 9 MIDDLE SCHOOL AND 11 HIGH
10:51:10 SCHOOL STUDENTS.
10:51:11 AND THEN ALSO WITH REFERENCE TO CAPACITY, THIS IS THE
10:51:15 FIVE YEAR WORK PLAN FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND YOU WILL
10:51:17 SEE IN YOUR FOLDER THERE'S A NEW PK8 ON MANHATTAN THAT
10:51:22 WILL LIKELY PROVIDE CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE.
10:51:24 AND IF IT SO HAPPENS THAT THIS APPLICATION GETS AHEAD OF
10:51:29 THIS NEW SCHOOL YEAR, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY
10:51:32 MITIGATION TO HELP FUND THAT SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT.
10:51:38 AGAIN, SPEAKING TO TRAFFIC, WE HAVE THE TRIP GENERATION
10:51:41 IN BLUE ON WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY, AND THEN WHAT'S
10:51:44 PROPOSED.
10:51:46 WE HAVE ON THE LEFT, YOU HAVE THE PRIOR TRAFFIC IMPACT IN
10:51:50 THE A.M. AND P.M. PEAK HOUR AND ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE
10:51:54 REDUCTION THERE.
10:51:55 AGAIN, WE ARE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION FROM WHAT'S ALREADY
10:51:59 ALLOWED BY RIGHT ON THE SITE TODAY.
10:52:02 THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS SOUTH OF GANDY AREA ZOOMED OUT
10:52:07 FROM THE MAP THAT WAS SHOWN WITH THE STAFF REPORT.
10:52:10 YOU CAN SEE THE SITES THAT ARE IN RED OUTLINED IN RED ARE
10:52:14 MULTIFAMILY DENSITIES.
10:52:16 22 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
10:52:17 24.
10:52:18 16.
10:52:18 17.
10:52:20 AND 22.
10:52:21 AND THEY ARE ADJACENT TO THE BLUE AREAS WHICH ARE
10:52:24 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
10:52:25 AND THEY ARE IN THE SAME PROXIMITY AS THIS PARTICULAR
10:52:28 SITE.
10:52:28 AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THE TRASK SITE ON THE WESTERN
10:52:35 BOUNDARY AND NORTHERN BOUNDARY HAS GREEN SPACE SO THERE
10:52:38 IS EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY IN CLOSE
10:52:41 PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
10:52:45 I PUT THIS SLIDE UP NOT TO CALL ANYONE OUT OR TO
10:52:49 EMBARRASS ANYONE.
10:52:49 I RESPECT MRS. POYNTER AND HER ADVOCACY BUT I DO WANT TO
10:52:53 MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT WHEN SOCIAL MEDIA
10:52:57 POSTS WERE POSTED ABOUT THIS MEETING, THEY WERE POSTED
10:53:00 THAT THERE WOULD BE 240 UNITS AND THERE WOULD BE BUILDING
10:53:03 HEIGHTS OF 60 FEET.
10:53:05 MOST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT CAME IN, IN THE WRITTEN
10:53:08 RECORD, IT WAS AFTER THIS POST, AND 84% FOLLOWED THE
10:53:16 POST, AND THERE WAS NO MENTION TO THE REVISIONS IN THE
10:53:18 SITE PLAN OR TO THE FACT THIS WAS NOT THE SAME AS THE
10:53:22 REQUEST BEFORE TO THE RM-24 WHERE THERE WAS NO SITE PLAN
10:53:26 CONTROL IN PLACE.
10:53:27 I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT JUST FOR RELEVANCE OF THE DATA.
10:53:33 A LOT OF THE LAY TESTIMONY YOU HEARD WAS LAY TESTIMONY TO
10:53:38 DEVELOPMENT.
10:53:38 WE DON'T WANT IT.
10:53:39 BUT MULTIFAMILY IS PERMITTED BY THE EXISTING REGULATION.
10:53:43 APPROVAL WILL MAKE EXISTING PROBLEMS WORSE.
10:53:47 BUT COMPETENT EVIDENCE SHOWS -- [ INAUDIBLE ] CAN YOU
10:53:52 HEAR ME?
10:53:53 BECAUSE I AM HEARING AN ECHO.
10:53:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
10:53:57 >>KAMI CORBETT: BECAUSE F.A.R., THE ALLOWABLE F.A.R. IS
10:54:01 1.5.
10:54:02 AND THEN SCHOOL CONCURRENCY IS ANALYZED AT SITE
10:54:06 DEVELOPMENT.
10:54:06 THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION TO ADAPTABILITY TO EVACUATE
10:54:10 IN A HURRICANE.
10:54:10 THE REGULATION DOES NOT REQUIRE EVACUATION OR MITIGATION.
10:54:15 MITIGATION IS BEING PROVIDED.
10:54:18 AND YES, I UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS ARE FRUSTRATED AND
10:54:21 THEY FEEL THAT THIS IS BEING DONE TO THEM.
10:54:23 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE REGULATIONS FORTUNATELY OR
10:54:27 UNFORTUNATELY, THE REGULATIONS THAT EXIST TODAY ARE THOSE
10:54:29 THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THIS APPLICATION, AND TO THE
10:54:32 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
10:54:33 YOU HAVE AN UPCOMING WORKSHOP ON OCTOBER 22ND, 2020, TO
10:54:37 DISCUSS CHANGES TO THE REGULATIONS, AND THAT IS YOUR
10:54:41 OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THEN WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO AND
10:54:45 WILLING TO DO THAT THIS COUNCIL IS WILLING TO DO TO HELP
10:54:48 THEM ADDRESS THEIR PROBLEM.
10:54:53 MAY I ASK HOW MUCH TIME?
10:54:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 7 MINUTES PLUS THE MINUTE I
10:55:01 GAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER PLUS THE FIVE MINUTES I GAVE ANOTHER
10:55:04 SPEAKER.
10:55:04 SO HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED?
10:55:07 >>KAMI CORBETT: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SCOTT McLAREN
10:55:11 ADDRESS BRIEFLY THE ISSUE OF PRESUMPTIVE -- THE EXISTING
10:55:15 DESIGNATION BEING PRESUMPTIVELY VALID.
10:55:18 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
10:55:23 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:55:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:55:25 GO AHEAD.
10:55:25 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:28 THE ISSUE REALLY HERE IS THE CRITERIA, AND THERE WAS AN
10:55:34 INDICATION MADE FROM COUNCIL FOR THE CITY THAT THE
10:55:37 EXISTING ZONING IS PRESUMPTIVELY VALID, AND THAT IS TRUE
10:55:41 WHEN THE HEARING STARTS, BUT IS HELD BY THE SUPREME COURT
10:55:45 OF FLORIDA IN THE SNYDER AND GBV CASES.
10:55:51 ONCE THE APPLICANT MEETS ITS INITIAL BURDEN OF SHOWING
10:55:57 COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE REZONING CRITERIA, THAT BURDEN
10:56:00 DISAPPEARS, PRESUMPTION OF VALIDITY DISAPPEARS, AND THE
10:56:05 BURDEN SHIFTS THEN TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY MUST THROUGH
10:56:10 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, THAT THE REZONING
10:56:16 APPLICATION, QUOTE, DOES NOT MEET THE PUBLISHED CRITERIA.
10:56:19 THAT'S A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE GBV CASE.
10:56:23 SO IN THIS CASE WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WE HAVE PRESENTED
10:56:26 EVIDENCE FROM THE CITY STAFF, FROM THE PLANNING
10:56:29 COMMISSION STAFF, AND THROUGH OUR EXPERTS, THAT WE MEET
10:56:32 THE CRITERIA.
10:56:33 THERE IS NO EXPERT TESTIMONY TO THE CONTRARY, AND
10:56:40 KATHERINE'S BAY WHICH IS ON YOUR SCREEN INDICATES, THAT
10:56:42 IS WHAT IS REQUIRED ON THESE ISSUES OF COMPATIBILITY,
10:56:46 FLOODING, AND THESE OTHER ISSUES.
10:56:49 YOU MUST HAVE EXPERT OPINIONS ON IT.
10:56:52 AND SO WE BELIEVE VERY RESPECTFULLY THAT WE DO MEET -- WE
10:56:58 HAVE MET OUR INITIAL BURDEN, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN
10:57:01 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE SUFFICIENT TO SHOW THAT
10:57:04 WE DO NOT MEET, QUOTE, THE PUBLISHED CRITERIA, END QUOTE,
10:57:08 ASCENT FORTH BY THE SUPREME COURT IN THE GBV CASE.
10:57:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:57:20 COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, OR MAY I GET
10:57:23 A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
10:57:26 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ.
10:57:27 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:57:31 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:57:32 I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING THAT MR. McLAREN
10:57:35 SAID.
10:57:38 WHAT HE MENTIONED THAT IS APPLICABLE IN JUST THE REGULAR
10:57:41 CASE, HOWEVER, IF YOU RECALL WHEN I SAID IN MY
10:57:43 PRESENTATION, THIS CASE IS BEFORE YOU ON THE
10:57:46 RECOMMENDATION OF A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE REGARDING THE
10:57:49 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL, SO YOUR INITIAL DECISION TONIGHT IS
10:57:52 WHAT ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THAT SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL,
10:57:55 IF YOU DECIDE TO ACCEPT THE SETTLEMENT THEN YOU WOULD
10:57:58 IMPLEMENT THE SETTLEMENT APPROVAL BY ADOPTING AN
10:58:03 ORDINANCE, OR FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE
10:58:06 PROPERTY.
10:58:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:58:10 MR. VIERA, YES, SIR.
10:58:11 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:58:13 AND TWO QUESTIONS.
10:58:15 ONE IS TO OUR ATTORNEY MARTY.
10:58:18 I BELIEVE JUST SO THAT WE KNOW ON THESE THAT THE FIRST
10:58:22 HEARING WENT DOWN TO 5-2.
10:58:29 I THINK MYSELF AND COUNCIL -- OR CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO
10:58:32 VOTED AGAINST THE DENIAL.
10:58:35 HOW ARE WE -- JUST FOR PURPOSES OF KNOWING, HOW ARE WE
10:58:40 ALL MARRIED TO THAT PRIOR VOTE, I GUESS IF YOU WILL?
10:58:45 DO WE NEED TO SHOW ANYTHING FOR ANY CHANGE OF OPINION,
10:58:48 JUST FOR OUR OWN EDIFICATION?
10:58:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, I WOULD LIKE MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ TO
10:58:52 FOLLOW UP AFTER I MAKE MY COMMENTS, JUST TO ADD TO IT OR
10:59:00 CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT THE WAY IT APPEARS,
10:59:02 COUNCIL, IS YOU HAVE A NEW SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU
10:59:05 HAVE A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAD A NEW
10:59:09 HEARING TONIGHT WITH FULL PRESENTATION, SO IT WOULD BE MY
10:59:13 OPINION THAT WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE COMPETENT,
10:59:19 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE UPON WHICH TO BASE YOUR DECISION IS
10:59:24 IN TONIGHT'S RECORD, AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED
10:59:28 FROM THE PREVIOUS HEARING, AND CERTAINLY HAS THE BENEFIT
10:59:34 OF A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT.
10:59:36 SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, OR I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR
10:59:39 STATEMENT MORE DIRECTLY, WOULD BE THAT YOUR DECISION
10:59:44 ULTIMATELY MUST BE SUPPORTED BY THE EVIDENCE, AND IF YOU
10:59:52 ARE IN A POSITION TO ARTICULATE THE BASIS FOR YOUR
10:59:55 DECISION TAINT WITH REGARD TO WHETHER TO ACCEPT, REJECT
10:59:59 OR MODIFY MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION, THEN YOUR PREVIOUS
11:00:05 DECISIONS WERE BASED ON FACTS THAT ARE PERHAPS NOT BEFORE
11:00:10 YOU TONIGHT.
11:00:10 WOULD THAT BE A CORRECT ASSUMPTION, MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ?
11:00:14 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES.
11:00:16 LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:00:16 I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
11:00:18 BUT YOU DO HAVE A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL BEFORE
11:00:21 YOU THIS EVENING.
11:00:22 YOU HAVE HAD EVIDENCE PRESENTED FOR THAT SITE PLAN.
11:00:28 AND SO YOU MUST CONSIDER THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU
11:00:32 THIS EVENING.
11:00:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MORE
11:00:36 DIRECTLY, YOU ARE NOT BOUND TO YOUR PREVIOUS VOTE BECAUSE
11:00:43 THAT IS NOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
11:00:47 SO MY SUGGESTION TO YOU AS IT ALWAYS IS, YOUR CASE -- THE
11:00:54 CITY'S CASE, THE CITY OF TAMPA'S CASE IN ANY DECISION
11:00:58 THAT YOU MAKE IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE
11:01:03 RECORD THAT YOU CREATOR YOU LISTEN OR THAT IS PRESENTED
11:01:08 TO YOU, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
11:01:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:01:12 A QUICK QUESTION, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
11:01:20 AND ADDITIONALLY TONIGHT, AND I DON'T DO THIS TO OPEN A
11:01:23 CAN OF WORMS, WHO KNOWS WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO, THIS
11:01:27 IS A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
11:01:29 IN OTHER WORDS -- AND I AM JUST GOING TO PUT UP A
11:01:33 HYPOTHETICAL.
11:01:33 LET'S SAY THAT THIS WAS A PROJECT OF 50 APARTMENTS AND WE
11:01:38 SAID, NOW WHAT?
11:01:39 WOULD YOU TAKE 48, PUTTING SOMETHING OUT THERE.
11:01:42 CAN FURTHER NEGOTIATION OCCUR TONIGHT?
11:01:44 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:01:52 YES, I GAVE YOU THREE OPTIONS.
11:01:54 YOU CAN ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION.
11:01:55 YOU MAY REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION.
11:01:57 OR YOU MAY MODIFY IT.
11:01:59 IF YOU SEEK MODIFICATIONS, THEN THE APPLICANT MUST AGREE
11:02:03 TO THOSE MODIFICATIONS, AND THEN THE APPLICANT DISAGREE
11:02:06 TO THOSE, THEN YOU MAY PROCEED TO IMPLEMENT THEM THROUGH
11:02:11 FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
11:02:13 OF AN ORDINANCE.
11:02:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:02:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION.
11:02:18 I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I CAN, JUST TO CLARIFY THE RECORD,
11:02:21 JUST FOR PERHAPS MR. HARVEY HANDLING THE LITIGATION.
11:02:27 IF THE COUNCIL SHOULD CHOOSE FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHICH
11:02:33 THEY HAVE TO ARTICULATE REALLY, BUT WHAT IS THE ROLE OF
11:02:37 THE RECORD OF THE PREVIOUS HEARING SHOULD THIS LITIGATION
11:02:41 GO FORWARD?
11:02:42 >> McLAREN: I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
11:02:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THIS RETURNS TO A LITIGATION POSTURE
11:02:56 FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEN THE CITY WOULD RELY ON THE
11:03:00 RECORD AT THE PREVIOUS HEARING?
11:03:12 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THE PETITION FOR WRIT IS A
11:03:16 CHALLENGE OR SEEKS TO QUASI-JUDICIAL THE DECISION FROM
11:03:18 THE FEBRUARY 13th, 2020 HEARING.
11:03:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
11:03:24 I APOLOGIZE IF I AM OUT OF LINE ON THAT QUESTION BUT I AM
11:03:26 GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO CLARIFY THE RECORD FOR THE
11:03:30 COUNCILMEN.
11:03:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THEN
11:03:33 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:03:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:03:37 JUST AS A MATTER OF PROTOCOL, I WANTED TO, IF NOBODY HAS
11:03:41 YET, I WANTED TO THANK JUDGE CASE FOR PARTICIPATING IN
11:03:49 OUR MEDIATION, AND HANGING IN THERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
11:03:54 SO, YOUR HONOR, I NEVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO APPEAR IN
11:03:58 FRONT OF YOU IN THE SIXTH CIRCUIT, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR
11:04:01 EFFORTS THIS EVENING.
11:04:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:05 >> JUDGE CASE: YOU'RE WELCOME.
11:04:08 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
11:04:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:04:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO GET BACK ON TRACK A LITTLE
11:04:13 BIT.
11:04:15 IT'S LIKE WE ARE IN DIFFERENT WORLDS HERE.
11:04:20 WE ARE AT MEDIATION AND MUST MAKE A DECISION SO
11:04:23 EVERYTHING IN THE PAST IS GONE.
11:04:25 IS THAT CORRECT, MS. BE JOHNSON-VELEZ?
11:04:27 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, YOU HAVE A NEW SITE PLAN
11:04:30 AND A NEW DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
11:04:33 AND SO THE PRIOR PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR
11:04:37 YOU TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN
11:04:40 FEBRUARY BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A NEW PROPOSAL THAT RESULTED
11:04:42 FROM THE MEDIATION PROCEEDINGS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
11:04:45 AND SO THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION
11:04:49 THIS EVENING.
11:04:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
11:04:52 SO WE PROCEED AND MOVE ON.
11:04:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:04:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION JUST
11:04:59 FOR CLARIFICATION FROM WHAT MR. SHELBY SAID, FROM WHAT
11:05:02 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ SAID.
11:05:05 BECAUSE IT TRIGGERED SOMETHING IN MY MIND.
11:05:09 MS. CORBETT DID AN INTERESTING JOB OF CROSS-EXAMINING MR.
11:05:15 HEY ABOUT HIS OPINIONS THIS EVENING, HAVING TO DO WITH
11:05:24 THE COMP PLAN AND THAT SORT OF THING.
11:05:27 ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS, WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER THIS
11:05:29 QUESTION, MR. HARVEY OR WHATEVER, IS WHAT SHE ELICITED
11:05:35 TONIGHT ADMISSIBLE IN EITHER THE PETITION FOR WRIT OF
11:05:40 CERTAIN CASE OR THE 1983 CASE?
11:05:46 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, AGAIN I WILL TAKE A STAB AT
11:05:49 THAT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:05:50 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
11:05:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE REASON I ASKED, I THOUGHT WE ARE
11:05:55 PARTICIPATING IN A MEDIATION PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
11:05:59 AND TRADITIONALLY, WHATEVER HAPPENS DURING MEDIATION IS
11:06:04 NOT ADMISSIBLE IF MEDIATION FAILS.
11:06:11 AS A REGULAR MATTER.
11:06:14 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: AND YOU ARE CORRECT.
11:06:17 UNDERSTOOD THE STATUTE, THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE PART OF THE
11:06:23 70.51 PROCEEDINGS, AND DOES COUNCIL HAVE, COUNCIL HAS THE
11:06:28 ABILITY TO MODIFY THE SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL FURTHER, AND
11:06:32 ANY STATEMENTS OR ACTIONS OF THE CITY OR FOR THE
11:06:36 APPLICANT ARE EVIDENCE OF AN OFFER TO COMPROMISE, AND
11:06:38 THEREFORE INADMISSIBLE IN ANY PROCEEDING.
11:06:41 AND SO THAT IS PART OF THE STATUTORY PROCESS.
11:06:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:50 IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:06:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.
11:06:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY DINGFELDER.
11:06:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:06:58 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO CLOSING THIS HEARING?
11:07:01 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITHOUT ANY
11:07:04 OBJECTION, THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
11:07:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT A SECOND.
11:07:09 I BELIEVE PETITIONER WANTS TO ADD SOMETHING.
11:07:12 MS. CORBETT, ARE YOU ASKING TO BE RECOGNIZED?
11:07:15 >>KAMI CORBETT: YES, I AM ASKING TO BE RECOGNIZED.
11:07:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THIS
11:07:20 HEARING?
11:07:20 >> SO MOVED.
11:07:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
11:07:23 BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:07:25 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:07:27 ANY OBJECTION?
11:07:28 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THIS PUBLIC HEARING
11:07:32 IS NOW REOPENED.
11:07:34 MS. CORBETT.
11:07:35 >>KAMI CORBETT: I WANTED TO HAVE MR. McLAREN RESPOND
11:07:39 TO BE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT CITY COUNCIL
11:07:41 WAS GIVING AND THE DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT WHAT THE
11:07:45 PROCEEDINGS THIS EVENING, JUST BRIEFLY.
11:07:46 >> SCOTT McLAREN: MAKING SURE WE ARE AREN'T
11:07:59 ACQUIESCING TO THE ADMISSIBILITY OF THE EVIDENCE TONIGHT,
11:08:02 SHOULD THE REZONING BE APPROVED OR DENIED.
11:08:08 I THINK IT'S A UNIQUE PROCEEDING.
11:08:14 IT IS IN PART LEGISLATIVE BEING THAT PART OF THIS IS YOUR
11:08:19 DECISION ON THE LEGISLATIVE MATTER, AND THAT IS WHETHER
11:08:22 OR NOT TO ACCEPT THE SETTLEMENT.
11:08:25 HOWEVER, ON THE REZONING PORTION, IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL
11:08:31 PROCEEDING, AND SO ANY QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING, YOUR,
11:08:37 YOUR DECISION MUST BE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
11:08:40 EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD, AND THE EVIDENCE IN THIS RECORD
11:08:43 WOULD BE, WE BELIEVE, ADMISSIBLE.
11:08:46 BUT I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE.
11:08:49 I JUST DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY SUGGESTION THAT WE
11:08:53 AGREED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:08:55 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:08:58 SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
11:08:59 THANKS.
11:08:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNEW YOU COULDN'T STAND SILENT ON
11:09:04 THAT ONE, MR. McLAREN.
11:09:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:09:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:09:10 AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ADMISSIBLE, I THINK ONE THING IS
11:09:12 CLEAR, THAT THE TESTIMONY BY MR. HEY, WHETHER IT'S
11:09:17 BINDING AND GOING TO BE OUT FOR PUBLICATION TODAY, IT
11:09:21 WILL BE FORTHCOMING.
11:09:23 AND I JUST WOULDN'T SEE ANY REASON LOGICALLY FOR HIM TO
11:09:28 CHANGE HIS OPINIONS.
11:09:31 MAYBE I'M WRONG.
11:09:32 BUT IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S THE TESTIMONY THAT WILL BE
11:09:35 PRESENTED.
11:09:37 AT THE VERY LEAST, I THINK WE SHOULD STIPULATE TO THAT,
11:09:40 IN MY OPINION, JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
11:09:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:49 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
11:09:52 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA.
11:09:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A
11:10:00 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:10:02 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
11:10:06 HEARING NONE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE HEARING IS NOW
11:10:09 CLOSED.
11:10:11 YES, MR. SHELBY?
11:10:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, WITH THE HEARING CLOSED, YOU
11:10:16 HAVE A THRESHOLD QUESTION THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON YOUR
11:10:19 AGENDA.
11:10:20 THAT IS MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ ARTICULATED, YOU HAVE A MOTION
11:10:24 DUE ON THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION, AND I
11:10:28 BELIEVE IT'S TO EITHER ACCEPT, REJECT OR MODIFY THAT
11:10:32 RECOMMENDATION.
11:10:33 THAT IS THE THRESHOLD QUESTION BEFORE WE GET TO THE
11:10:39 SECOND STEP DEPENDING ON COUNCIL'S DECISION.
11:10:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:10:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE I MADE THE
11:10:59 MOTION ORIGINALLY LAST YEAR THAT STARTED ALL THIS.
11:11:09 EVERYBODY CAN BLAME ME FOR THIS LATE HOUR.
11:11:14 BUT I AM GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL
11:11:18 MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION, WITH GREAT HESITANCY.
11:11:24 AND IT'S NOT BASED OPPOSED SAY NO THE THREAT OF
11:11:26 LITIGATION.
11:11:27 I'M NOT AFRAID OF LITIGATION.
11:11:31 BUT IT IS BASED UPON ACTUALLY VERY EXCELLENT COMMENT BY
11:11:37 COUNCILMAN VIERA, ABOUT TEN SECONDS AGO.
11:11:41 BECAUSE I APPRECIATE MR. HEY.
11:11:45 MR. HEY IS A FINE PROFESSIONAL.
11:11:47 HE DOES HIS JOB.
11:11:49 BUT THE TESTIMONY THAT HE GAVE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY
11:11:56 DAMNING TO US IN TRYING TO DEFEND OURSELVES ON THE BASIS
11:11:59 OF COASTAL HIGH HAZARD.
11:12:06 MY ORIGINAL MOTION LAST YEAR WAS BASED IN GREAT PART ON
11:12:10 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD CONCERN.
11:12:13 AND I STILL HAVE TREMENDOUS COASTAL HIGH HAZARD CONCERNS
11:12:17 ABOUT BUILDING THESE UNITS, TOO MANY UNITS, EVACUATING
11:12:22 THESE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, EVERYBODY GETTING IN THE WAY OF
11:12:25 EACH OTHER, TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE -- IT'S BEEN A
11:12:29 PROBLEM FOR DECADES AND WE ARE ONLY MAKING IT WORSE.
11:12:32 HOWEVER, THE LAW IS THE LAW.
11:12:34 AND UNFORTUNATELY OUR COASTAL HIGH HAZARD LANGUAGE IN THE
11:12:38 COMP PLAN RIGHT NOW IS INADEQUATE.
11:12:43 AND MS. CORBETT, AS HESITANT AS I AM TO SAY, MR.
11:12:49 McLAREN, HAVE BOTH SHOWN THAT INADEQUACY IN OUR
11:12:53 LANGUAGE.
11:12:55 IT'S NOT ANYBODY'S FAULT.
11:12:57 THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
11:12:58 IT'S INADEQUATE.
11:13:03 WITH GREAT HESITANCY AND WITH GREAT APOLOGIES TO THE
11:13:06 COMMUNITY, AND FOLKS WHO STAYED UP SO TAKE LATE TO GIVE
11:13:13 THEIR OPINIONS AND PARTICIPATED IN ALL OF THIS, I WILL
11:13:15 MOVE TO ACCEPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION.
11:13:19 I BELIEVE WE MADE SOME PROGRESS SINCE LAST YEAR.
11:13:22 WE HAVE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF TOTAL UNITS.
11:13:24 WE HAVE REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF SEVERAL OF THE BUILDINGS.
11:13:30 THEY HAVE MADE SOME CONCESSIONS IN REGARD TO
11:13:33 CONTRIBUTIONS IN REGARD TO BUS SHELTERS, ET CETERA.
11:13:36 SO IT HASN'T BEEN FOR NAUGHT.
11:13:40 WE MADE SOME PROGRESS.
11:13:43 AS WE HAVE IN SOME OF THE OTHER CASES THAT WE HAVE
11:13:46 INVOLVED IN AND LITIGATED.
11:13:47 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO STRENGTHEN THE
11:13:49 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD PROVISIONS IN THE COMP PLAN, AND WE
11:13:53 WILL DO THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SIX TO NINE
11:13:57 MONTHS.
11:13:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM -- MOTION FROM
11:14:04 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:14:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO ACCEPT THE SETTLEMENT
11:14:07 AGREEMENT.
11:14:09 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:14:10 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:14:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:14:14 >>LUIS VIERA: AND JUST TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE, IF I MAY,
11:14:17 BECAUSE I SECONDED THAT, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
11:14:20 YOU KNOW, I SHARE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S SENTIMENT,
11:14:23 WHICH IS THAT THIS IS DONE WITH GREAT HESITANCY.
11:14:25 MY FIRST VOTE WAS DONE WITH GREAT HESITANCY, BECAUSE WHEN
11:14:28 I LOOK AT THIS OBJECTIVELY, OUTSIDE THE PROCEDURAL LENS
11:14:34 THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T LIKE WHAT I SEE.
11:14:37 AND I HEAR OUR FRIEND SOUTH OF GANDY SPEAKING HERE
11:14:40 TONIGHT.
11:14:40 I AGREE WITH THEM ON THE SUBSTANCE.
11:14:42 THE BIG CHALLENGE IS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH RULES THAT
11:14:46 ARE APPLIED, THAT WERE APPLIED WHEN WHOEVER THE PROPERTY
11:14:49 OWNER WAS THAT PURCHASED THIS LAND, AND WHEN THEY
11:14:53 PURCHASED THIS LAND, THERE WERE CERTAIN RULES THAT WERE
11:14:56 IN EFFECT, THAT THEY REASONABLY RELIED UPON.
11:14:59 AND THEY HAVE A CHECK.
11:15:01 AND TONIGHT IN A SENSE THEY COME TO CITY COUNCIL TO CASH
11:15:03 THAT CHECK.
11:15:03 AND WE CAN'T GO, NO, YOU CAN'T CASH IT, BECAUSE THERE
11:15:08 WERE CERTAIN RULES THAT WERE THERE FOR THEM.
11:15:11 THE WAY I SEE THIS IS COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS
11:15:14 THE LANGUAGE THAT THE COURT UNDERSTANDS.
11:15:17 THAT IS, LET'S SAY, SPANISH.
11:15:20 AND IF WE GO INTO THAT COURT SPEAKING ANYTHING OTHER THAN
11:15:23 THE LANGUAGE OF COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, WE GO IN
11:15:26 THERE SPEAKING ENGLISH, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND
11:15:28 ITSELF.
11:15:28 >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S NOT GOING TO MOVE THE COURT.
11:15:30 WE HAVE GOT TO SPEAK THAT LANGUAGE.
11:15:31 AND I THINK THAT TONIGHT, THAT'S THE ONLY LANGUAGE THAT
11:15:35 WE HAVE HEARD, THAT WE SHOULD HEAR, I GUESS, TONIGHT.
11:15:39 WHATEVER COMES TO OUR DECISION.
11:15:41 HOWEVER, HOWEVER, AGAIN, LIKE I JOKED BEFORE, DON'T HATE
11:15:45 THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME, RIGHT?
11:15:47 AND WE CAN CHANGE THE GAME.
11:15:49 AND I THINK THAT'S THE LARGER POINT THAT HAS GOT TO BE
11:15:53 MADE WITH REGARD TO THIS.
11:15:54 SO I VOTE WITH THIS WITH GREAT HESITATION, BUT I
11:15:59 NEVERTHELESS DO.
11:15:59 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:16:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:05 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:16:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:16:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:16:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:16:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:16:21 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:16:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:16:27 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:16:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW DO WE READ THE ORDINANCE?
11:16:34 IS THAT CORRECT?
11:16:35 OR DOES THAT SETTLE THAT?
11:16:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS THE MOTION FOR FIRST READING,
11:16:41 SO MOVE THAT ORDINANCE.
11:16:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS
11:16:44 ORDINANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 11?
11:16:47 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU MADE THE PRIOR MOTION.
11:16:49 WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ON THE ORDINANCE AS WELL OR NO?
11:16:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I WILL PASS.
11:16:54 I HAVE DONE MY PART.
11:16:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
11:16:59 TAKE THE ORDINANCE?
11:17:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO
11:17:05 CONFIRM WITH STAFF.
11:17:06 I BELIEVE THERE'S A REVISION SHEET THAT'S ATTACHED TO
11:17:08 THAT.
11:17:09 MS. CORBETT, IS THAT CORRECT, REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND
11:17:12 SECOND READING?
11:17:13 I SEE HER NODDING YES.
11:17:14 SO IF YOU COULD MAKE THE REVISION SHEET AS PART OF YOUR
11:17:18 MOTION ALONG WITH THE USUAL LANGUAGE THAT YOU DO.
11:17:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:17:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH GREAT HESITATION, MR. CHAIR.
11:17:30 I AM NOT GOING TO THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE BUT I WILL READ
11:17:32 THE ORDINANCE.
11:17:33 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:17:35 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE
11:17:38 GENERAL VICINITY OF 6603 SOUTH TRASK STREET IN THE CITY
11:17:43 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:17:45 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG
11:17:48 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:17:51 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:17:55 THIS IS FILE REZ 19-94, WITH THE REVISION SHEET.
11:18:04 >>LUIS VIERA:
11:18:09 >> I'LL SECOND.
11:18:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO
11:18:13 BE RECOGNIZED TO FINISH.
11:18:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:18:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN
11:18:21 OF PROOF, AND THE REQUESTED WAIVERS WILL NOT
11:18:26 SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR INJURY WITH THE RIGHTS OF
11:18:29 OTHERS, THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS, PROPOSED
11:18:36 DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN IN THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES OR
11:18:38 ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE -- [~AUDIO
11:18:47 DISTORTION~]
11:18:48 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND, VIERA.
11:18:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:18:51 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:18:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:18:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:18:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:19:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:19:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:19:08 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:19:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:19:12 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:19:15 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER
11:19:17 5th AT 9:30 A.M.
11:19:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:22 ALL RIGHT.
11:19:23 THAT'S IT.
11:19:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:25 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
11:19:26 WE NOW GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS BY
11:19:30 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:19:32 I'LL START AT THE END OF THE DAIS.
11:19:34 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:19:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:19:37 I DO HAVE A MOTION.
11:19:39 I'M TRYING TO FIND.
11:19:41 I MOTION FOR STAFF FROM REVENUE AND FINANCE TO BRING
11:19:43 FORWARD A RESOLUTION ALLOWING MY OFFICE TO DONATE $3500
11:19:48 TO FOREST HILLS UNITED TO HELP FUND A NEIGHBORHOOD
11:19:51 CHRISTMAS PARADE AND FUNDRAISER IN FOREST HILLS TAKING
11:19:54 PLACE ON DECEMBER 5 20:20 AND THAT SAID RESOLUTION BE
11:19:57 BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL AT THE NOVEMBER 5, 2020 MEETING
11:20:00 FOR APPROVAL.
11:20:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:20:06 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS THE SECOND.
11:20:09 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
11:20:11 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES.
11:20:15 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:20:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:20:18 I DO.
11:20:19 I HAVE TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING, IF I MAY.
11:20:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
11:20:23 COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS,
11:20:25 SIR?
11:20:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, REAL QUICKLY.
11:20:28 GENTLEMEN, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS, A
11:20:32 YOUNG LADY WHO SAW A NEED FOR OUR CITY THAT WE WERE NOT
11:20:37 DOING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE VIVIAN
11:20:43 ANDERSON A COMMENDATION TO HELP MOVE THE CITY FORWARD
11:20:47 WITH ALL INCLUSIVENESS OF SIGNS, INDICATING MEN WORKING,
11:20:54 AND WOMEN WERE ALSO WORKING, AND THE SIGN DID NOT INCLUDE
11:20:59 WOMEN, AND MAKE THE SIGN TO READ WORKERS PRESENT.
11:21:08 THIS COMMENDATION TO HAVE VIRTUALLY FOR THE SCHOOL TO
11:21:14 GIVE US A DATE TO DO THAT.
11:21:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
11:21:19 GUDES.
11:21:19 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:21:21 ANY OBJECTION?
11:21:22 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST SAY I INTERVIEWED THIS YOUNG
11:21:31 LADY WITH HER MOM THE OTHER DAY AND SHE'S AMAZING.
11:21:35 SHE'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND SHE'S GOING TO BE VERY
11:21:37 IMPRESSIVE WHEN SHE GROWS UP, I'M SURE.
11:21:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:40 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:21:42 NO?
11:21:42 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:21:44 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ANY OBJECTION TO THE
11:21:46 MOTION?
11:21:48 HEARING NO OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION --
11:21:53 AND NO OBJECTION, THE MOTION PASSES.
11:21:55 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:21:57 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
11:21:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT, SIR.
11:22:00 THANK YOU.
11:22:00 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
11:22:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
11:22:03 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:22:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:05 I WISH TO DO A COMMENDATION FOR RANDY ZOMERMAAND FOR HIS
11:22:13 YEARS OF SERVICE TO BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS.
11:22:17 PRESENTED AT A LATER TIME.
11:22:19 >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:22:22 FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:22:23 ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
11:22:25 HEARING NONE WITH, NO OBJECTION, THE MOTION PASSES.
11:22:29 ANYTHING ELSE?
11:22:31 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
11:22:33 I KNOW OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS EVERY YEAR DO
11:22:36 THEIR RUN.
11:22:37 LAST WEEK WAS THE VIRTUAL RUN OF THE POLICE OFFICE, OR
11:22:43 754 FIREFIGHTERS 5-K.
11:22:46 AND I DID THAT, BUT DIDN'T TURN OUT WELL BECAUSE I'M OUT
11:22:50 OF SHAPE.
11:22:51 BUT THIS SATURDAY IS ALSO NOW THE POLICE MEMORIAL RUN.
11:22:55 SO I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO TAKE PART IN THAT.
11:22:58 AND I WANTED TO GIVE A SPECIAL COMMENDATION TO A YOUNG
11:23:00 MAN WHO IS ACTUALLY ORGANIZING PART OF THE MEMORIAL RUN
11:23:05 BY THE NAME OF CHRIS HILL, WHO IS THE SON OF THE LATE
11:23:09 DETECTIVE RANDY BELL WHO WAS A FALLEN TAMPA POLICE
11:23:12 OFFICER, IF I MAY, FOR HIS WORK WITH THE MEMORIAL RUN.
11:23:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:23:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:23:23 VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ANY OBJECTION
11:23:26 TO THE MOTION?
11:23:28 HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THE MOTION PASSES
11:23:31 WITH NO OBJECTION.
11:23:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:23:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE
11:23:36 ANYTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS, SIR?
11:23:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO.
11:23:40 BUT FIRST THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS THIS VIRTUAL
11:23:43 RUN.
11:23:45 I HAVE BEEN VIRTUALLY RUNNING MY ADULT LIFE, WHICH IN MY
11:23:50 WORLD MEANS I DON'T RUN.
11:23:52 ANYWAY, MY ONLY MOTION TO COUNCIL IS IN REGARD TO THE
11:23:59 OCTOBER 22ND PLANNING, PLANNERS AND PLANNING WORKSHOP.
11:24:06 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF INCLUDES THREE
11:24:12 IMPORTANT ITEMS.
11:24:14 ONE OF WHICH WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS
11:24:19 CHANGING THE COMP PLAN AS IT RELATES TO COASTAL HIGH
11:24:21 HAZARD AREA.
11:24:23 THE SECOND ONE -- AND THIS IS ALL CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE
11:24:27 MOTION -- THE SECOND ONE IS WHAT I SPOKE TO LAST WEAK, IS
11:24:32 INCLUDING THE FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, SO THE
11:24:38 FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE APPLY ALL ACROSS THE CITY, AS MR.
11:24:43 MIRANDA SAYS, WE SHOULD APPLY THINGS ACROSS THE CITY, NOT
11:24:46 JUST IN CERTAIN PLACES.
11:24:48 AND THEN MY PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27-151, WHICH I
11:24:55 WILL GET YOU GUYS A COPY OF.
11:24:58 BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS -- INCLUDES
11:25:06 DISCUSSION OF ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS AT OUR 10-22
11:25:09 WORKSHOP.
11:25:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:25:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:25:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
11:25:15 I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
11:25:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I DID SEE COUNCIL'S CALENDAR THAT
11:25:20 JUST CAME OUT THIS ARCH BEFORE THE EVENING STARTED AND I
11:25:23 NOTICED ON THE 22ND IT DID IN FACT HAVE A WORKSHOP TO
11:25:27 INCLUDE DISCUSSION OF THE FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE
11:25:29 AMENDMENT.
11:25:29 COUNCIL ADDRESSES CHAPTER 27-151 CODE OF ORDINANCES.
11:25:33 I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THE
11:25:35 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
11:25:40 LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, AND WE CAN VERIFY THIS, THAT
11:25:44 MEANS IT WENT OUT ON THE MOTION TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
11:25:47 IS THAT CORRECT?
11:25:49 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
11:25:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IT SOUND LIKE THEY GOT THE MESSAGE
11:25:55 AND THEY ARE ALREADY GOING TO DO THAT ON THE 22ND?
11:25:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO OF THEM BUT NOT ON THE COASTAL HIGH
11:26:01 HAZARD COMP PLAN.
11:26:03 DOES ANYBODY NOTICE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT OR CLERK'S
11:26:05 OFFICE?
11:26:06 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS MOTION ABOUT THAT.
11:26:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MRS. GRIMES AND I DISCUSSED IT BUT I
11:26:11 DON'T THINK IT'S GOTTEN ANYWHERE.
11:26:13 SO THANK YOU, MARTY.
11:26:14 I WILL REVISE MY MOTION JUST SPECIFICALLY TO ASK STAFF TO
11:26:18 INCLUDE COMP PLAN COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA ISSUES AND
11:26:26 POSSIBLE CHANGES, AND ADD THAT TO THE 10-22 WORKSHOP.
11:26:30 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:26:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH
11:26:34 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:26:36 ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION?
11:26:38 HEARING NONE WITH NO OBJECTION BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT,
11:26:42 MOTION PASSES.
11:26:43 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:26:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:26:46 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:26:46 >>THE CLERK: VIERA'S FIRST MOTION, HE MADE THAT MOTION
11:26:53 LAST MEETING ON OCTOBER 1st.
11:26:56 >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY.
11:26:59 IT'S WORKING FROM HOME.
11:27:01 I'M FORGETTING THINGS.
11:27:03 SO I HEREBY WITHDRAW THAT, IF I MAY DO. I NEED TO MAKE A
11:27:07 MOTION?
11:27:07 AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:27:09 I DIDN'T KNOW --
11:27:13 >>> DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION?
11:27:15 >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY KINDLY WITHDRAW IT.
11:27:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY OBJECTION, COUNCIL, YOU CAN DO IT
11:27:19 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ACCEPT THAT.
11:27:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTION, MY FRIENDS?
11:27:24 NO.
11:27:24 BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION BY
11:27:27 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
11:27:29 THANK YOU.
11:27:30 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:27:31 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:27:33 NO MOTIONS.
11:27:34 I JUST WANTED TO THANK RANDY GOERS AND CAROLE POST FOR
11:27:38 THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
11:27:42 PROGRAM.
11:27:42 YOU ALL REMEMBER A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, I THINK WE
11:27:45 PASSED A MOTION TO ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK
11:27:49 INTO CREATING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS,
11:27:52 POTENTIALLY 130 OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND IT'S THE
11:27:55 INTEGRATION OF HOW PEOPLE INTERACT WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND
11:27:57 THE BUSINESSES THERE.
11:27:59 AND SO THE FIRST TWO STUDIES ARE GOING FORWARD.
11:28:02 ONE IS MAIN STREET IN WEST TAMPA AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN
11:28:05 THE PALMA CEIA AREA.
11:28:07 I THINK MR. DINGFELDER, ALTHOUGH WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO
11:28:12 TALK TO EACH OTHER, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO SIT
11:28:14 IN THESE AND LISTEN TO THEM.
11:28:16 THE CITY IS TAKING PLANNING IN-HOUSE NOW AND THEY
11:28:20 LISTENED TO OUR IDEAS, BUT IT'S GREAT PLANNING, IT'S
11:28:25 GREAT PUBLIC INPUT GATHERING, AND I THINK THEY ARE GOING
11:28:30 TO COME UP WITH SOME INCREDIBLE IDEAS AT THE END OF THIS.
11:28:33 AND ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THESE TWO, HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO
11:28:37 THE OTHER 128.
11:28:38 THANK YOU.
11:28:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:40 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
11:28:44 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:28:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:28:48 NOTHING TONIGHT.
11:28:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE
11:28:51 ANYTHING SIR?
11:28:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
11:28:56 FILE?
11:28:56 >> I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:28:58 I AM GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
11:29:03 FILE THE CONFLICT FORMS FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
11:29:06 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FOR CASES THAT WERE HEARD ON
11:29:09 SEPTEMBER 24th EVENING AGENDA WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED
11:29:12 AND THE CLERK HAS IN HER POSSESSION.
11:29:14 A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THAT AS WELL.
11:29:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE
11:29:20 DOCUMENTS AND ALL DOCUMENTS BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:29:23 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:29:25 ANY OBJECTION?
11:29:27 HEARING NONE, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:29:34 I CAN PUT THAT INTO WITHIN MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
11:29:36 EVERYTHING, MR. SHELBY, INCLUDING THE FORMS AND
11:29:39 EVERYTHING ELSE?
11:29:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE CLERK
11:29:41 OR DO YOU WANT MORE SPECIFIC?
11:29:47 I THINK YOU CAN LIST THEM AS PART OF THAT MOTION.
11:29:49 >>THE CLERK: IT'S GOOD.
11:29:50 THANK YOU.
11:29:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:29:54 ALL RIGHT.
11:29:55 THE MOTION PASSES BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WITHOUT ANY
11:29:57 OBJECTION.
11:29:58 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
11:30:01 GOOD NIGHT.
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