Tampa City Council
Thursday, November 12, 2020
5:01 p.m. Session
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17:12:02 >> SO ANYWAY, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
17:12:05 PLEASE CONTINUE AND WE WILL OPEN UP THE MEETING AS SOON
17:20:43 AS IT IS READY.
17:20:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEW MEETING PLATFORM IS BEING
17:20:49 RESOLVED AND TRYING TO FIX IT NOW.
17:20:51 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
17:20:53 I KNOW A LOT OF WORK TO DO THIS.
17:20:56 TO THE PUBLIC LISTENING WE ARE FIXING IT AND HOPEFULLY
17:20:58 A FEW MORE MINUTES.
17:20:59 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
17:21:00 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
17:21:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
17:21:03 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
17:21:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
17:21:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
17:21:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
17:21:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
17:21:11 MR. SHELBY.
17:21:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
17:21:17 CITY COUNCIL.
17:21:20 MARTIN SHELBY, NOVEMBER 12, 2020.
17:21:22 PAST 5:01.
17:21:26 333 SOUTH FRANKLIN STREET AND TONIGHT'S QUASIJUDICIAL
17:21:30 AND OTHER LAND USE RELATED MATTERS ARE BEING HELD
17:21:32 DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY AND ARE BEING
17:21:36 CONDUCTED LIVE WITH AN IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT.
17:21:39 MADAM CLERK, DID YOU STATE THERE WAS A PHYSICAL QUORUM
17:21:41 PRESENT?
17:21:43 >>CLERK: YES, WE DO.
17:21:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:21:49 PHYSICAL QUORUM BUT WITH THE OPTION OF REMOTE USING
17:21:51 WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE STATE OF FLORIDA
17:21:55 COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
17:21:59 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE -- TONIGHT'S
17:22:02 MEETING -- WITH THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE BY
17:22:07 220-225 AND AMENDED BY 220-490.
17:22:09 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF INTEREST
17:22:13 WATCHING THIS MEETING AN ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW
17:22:17 IT ON CABLE SPECTRUM 640 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON
17:22:33 THE INTERNET AT HTTPS//WWW.TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM.
17:22:37 THE FOLLOWING ALTERNATIVE METHODS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED
17:22:40 FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OFFER EVIDENCE OR
17:22:42 TESTIMONY DURING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT.
17:22:45 IN PERSON HERE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER AT THE
17:22:49 CHANNEL ENTRANCE AND REMINDER THAT USE OF MASKS AND
17:22:52 SOCIAL DISTANCING INSIDE THIS BUILDING ARE REQUIRED AND
17:22:56 ALSO THE OPTION OF SPEAK REMOTELY USING CMT.
17:23:02 YOU HAD TO PREREGISTER TO DO THIS WITH A DEADLINE AND
17:23:05 AGAIN AS YOU HAVE HEARD THERE ARE TECHNICAL
17:23:05 DIFFICULTIES.
17:23:07 IF YOU ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY LOGGING IN THAT IS GOING
17:23:09 TO BE RESOLVED.
17:23:11 HOPEFULLY DONE BY THE 6:00 HEARINGS AND I WILL BE
17:23:13 REPEATING THAT.
17:23:15 YOU ARE WATCHING US ON TV AND YOU CAN'T LOG IN.
17:23:18 ALSO, WE ARE HAVING E-MAIL AND U.S. MAIL STILL
17:23:19 AVAILABLE.
17:23:22 AND ALSO FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO
17:23:26 A COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE OR ARE OTHERWISE UNABLE TO
17:23:30 PARTICIPATE VIA COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR WHO
17:23:33 DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK INSIDE THIS MEETING ROOM DUE TO
17:23:36 PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS DURING THE MEETING, YOU MAY
17:23:41 UTILIZE THE CMT KIOSK OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING ROOM OF
17:23:43 THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
17:23:46 FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, LOOK AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S
17:23:51 WEB PAGE, TAMPAGOV.NET/CITY-COUNCIL.
17:23:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR
17:23:55 YOUR PATIENCE.
17:23:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
17:24:02 MR. ERIC COTTON.
17:24:05 >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
17:24:08 AS SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE MARY SAMANIEGO --
17:24:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN THE MIC ON.
17:24:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TALK INTO IT.
17:24:19 TILT IT UP AND --
17:24:30 [INAUDIBLE]
17:24:36 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON FROM DEVELOPMENT
17:24:37 COORDINATION.
17:24:38 THANK YOU.
17:24:40 AS SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE MARY SAMANIEGO FROM OUR
17:24:42 OFFICE HAS TENDERED HER RESIGNATION.
17:24:45 MARY HAS WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR CLOSE TO SEVEN YEARS.
17:24:47 STARTED HERE IN 2014.
17:24:52 AS AN URBAN PLANNER TWO IN WHAT WE CALLED LAND
17:24:54 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND HAS BEEN WITH THIS
17:24:57 DEPARTMENT IN THE SAME POSITION FOR THE PAST -- SINCE
17:24:58 SHE STARTED.
17:25:01 MARY HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY IN ASSISTING DEVELOPERS,
17:25:03 PROPERTY OWNERS THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN UNDERSTANDING
17:25:07 CHAPTER 27 AND OTHER ZONING RELATED ISSUES THE PROCESS
17:25:10 HE'S AND PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE OUR OFFICE AND
17:25:12 SOMETIMES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
17:25:15 SHE -- SHE HAS ASSISTED EVERYTHING FROM GENERAL ZONING
17:25:19 FOR PEOPLE WALKING IN OFF THE STREET ASKING A SIMPLE
17:25:21 ZONING QUESTION TO LARGER PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME
17:25:27 BEFORE -- BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR REVIEW AND
17:25:30 CONSIDERATION SHE HAS BEEN A VERY -- VERY MUCH AN ASSET
17:25:31 TO OUR TEAM.
17:25:34 SHE HAS PROCESSED OVER 600 CASES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
17:25:39 DURING HER COURSE OF CAREER HERE AT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
17:25:43 MARY, WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH
17:25:45 APPRECIATED IN OUR OFFICE.
17:25:47 AND WE WILL MISS YOU IN THE UPCOMING FUTURE.
17:25:52 THOSE WHO WORKED WITH MARY, SHE HAS HER OWN STYLE, HER
17:25:55 OWN SENSE OF HUMOR AND ALSO A VERY SMART PLANNER AND AS
17:25:58 WE HAVE HAD CHANGEOVER IN OUR OFFICE, SHE HAS BEEN A
17:26:01 VERY GOOD RESOURCE TO GO TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET HER
17:26:04 OPINION ON DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE CODE AND PLANNING
17:26:05 PRINCIPLES.
17:26:07 SHE WILL BE VERY MUCH MISSED.
17:26:08 THANK YOU.
17:26:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
17:26:12 MARY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
17:26:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IT'S JUST -- IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE
17:26:17 WORKING HERE.
17:26:19 AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.
17:26:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL?
17:26:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MARY, I WORKED WITH YOU AND SEEN YOU
17:26:31 IN ALL OF THE THINGS I HAVE DONE WITH THE BOARD'S
17:26:33 COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS I HAVE BEEN WITH.
17:26:36 A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU AND I AM SAD TO SEE YOU GO.
17:26:40 BUT THE BEST TO YOU FOR YOUR ENDEAVORS.
17:26:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND CARLSON.
17:26:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE YOU AND GETTING
17:26:51 COUNCILMEMBERS STRAIGHTENED OUT LIKE MYSELF.
17:26:53 YOU HAVE BEEN A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT AND I ENJOYED
17:26:54 WORKING WITH YOU.
17:26:55 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
17:26:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID,
17:27:01 BUT I STARTED WITH YOU HERE AND EVERY TIME I HEAR YOUR
17:27:03 NAME THAT MEANS THAT ALL THE IMPORTANT STUFF IS GOING
17:27:04 TO COME UP.
17:27:06 LIKE A REMINDER TO ME.
17:27:09 WE WILL HAVE TO PEOPLE SAY YOUR NAME JUST TO DO THAT.
17:27:11 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
17:27:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
17:27:15 MARY, THIS HAS SURPRISED ME.
17:27:16 I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE LEAVING.
17:27:19 I AM SORRY TO HEAR YOU ARE LEAVING.
17:27:22 SOMETIMES YOU AND I BUTT HEADS BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE
17:27:26 WE FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
17:27:30 YOU ARE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL, AND I WISH YOU WELL
17:27:33 WHEREVER YOU HEAD AND WHATEVER YOU DO.
17:27:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
17:27:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT HAS BEEN AN EXPERIENCE.
17:27:42 YOU COME TO THE PODIUM AND ENLIGHTEN US WHAT WE SHOULD
17:27:44 DO OR SHOULDN'T DO AND YOU LET THE COMMUNITY AND
17:27:47 WORKING BOTH SIDES WHAT I CALL A SCALE.
17:27:48 AND YOU KEEP THE SCALE BALANCED.
17:27:52 SO I AM SORRY TO SEE YOU GO BUT WHATEVER ENDEAVOR YOU
17:27:55 ARE GOING TO ENTER IN, I KNOW YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB.
17:27:56 GOD BLESS YOU.
17:27:58 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
17:28:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
17:28:03 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY -- I AM JUST
17:28:04 KIDDING.
17:28:06 GOD BLESS YOU.
17:28:08 SINCE THE TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE YOU ARE A WONDERFUL
17:28:10 PUBLIC SERVANT.
17:28:12 HOW LONG IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
17:28:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IN THIS POSITION OVER SEVEN YEARS.
17:28:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS GREAT.
17:28:18 A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT.
17:28:21 PUBLIC SERVICE IS WHEN YOU TAKE MANY FORMS AND IN THE
17:28:24 PRIVATE SECTOR MAKING MORE MONEY UNDER A GIVE TO YOUR
17:28:26 TIME OF THE PUBLIC TO TRULY SERVE THE PUBLIC IN YOUR
17:28:28 CAPACITY AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
17:28:31 IT IS AN HONORABLE THING, AND SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW,
17:28:35 BEFORE BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL I APPRECIATED BUT NOT
17:28:38 AS MUCH AS NOW SEEING PROFESSIONALS LIKE YOURSELF.
17:28:40 YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
17:28:42 YOU HAVE A LOT TO BE PROUD OF.
17:28:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:28:47 AND I -- I HOPE FOLKS APPRECIATE -- I KNOW THEY
17:28:50 APPRECIATE, BUT UNDERSTAND JUST HOW HARD YOU WORK,
17:28:53 BECAUSE YOU REALLY DO WORK TIRELESSLY.
17:28:54 I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
17:28:57 AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR SERVICE TO
17:28:59 THIS COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
17:29:02 AND YOU REALLY PUT YOUR HEART AND SOUL INTO THINGS.
17:29:05 AND KNOW THAT WE WILL MISS YOU BUT WISH YOU THE BEST OF
17:29:05 LUCK.
17:29:08 AND WHATEVER YOU DO AND WHEREVER YOU GO, LIFE IS SHORT.
17:29:11 SO WHATEVER YOU DO, MAKE SURE YOU ARE HAPPY AND MAKE
17:29:14 THAT -- PUT YOURSELF FIRST AND MAKE THAT YOUR PRIORITY
17:29:17 BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS PUT THE CITY FIRST AS YOU HAVE BEEN
17:29:17 HERE.
17:29:18 WE APPRECIATE YOU AND THANK YOU.
17:29:20 WE HATE TO SEE YOU GO.
17:29:22 SO BEST OF LUCK, THANKS.
17:29:24 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THANK YOU.
17:29:29 [APPLAUSE]
17:29:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
17:29:34 >> MR. CHAIR, I WANTED TO STATE PUBLICLY WHAT I TOLD
17:29:37 YOU BEFORE THAT IT APPEARS THAT -- IT'S ABOUT 90%
17:29:41 LIKELY I HAVE TO LEAVE AROUND 8:05 OR SOMETHING --
17:29:46 UNLESS I CAN GET SOME FAMILY ISSUE I GOT TO JUMP INTO
17:29:50 FOR -- I HATE TO USE THE WORD BABYSITTER, BUT LONG
17:29:50 STORY.
17:29:53 BUT FYI.
17:29:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
17:30:00 HAVE WE RESOLVED THE GO TO MEETING SITUATION?
17:30:11 OH, OKAY, GOOD.
17:30:15 [INAUDIBLE]
17:30:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
17:30:20 MARTIN SHELBY, IS SOUNDS LIKE IF WE ARE PREPARED TO DO
17:30:23 THAT AT THE 5:00 MEETING THE APPLICANT IS APPEARING
17:30:28 VIRTUALLY SO I THINK COUNCIL -- IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO
17:30:30 SIGN IN BEFORE WE TAKE THAT ITEM.
17:30:32 IF YOU WANT TO SUGGEST -- HOW LONG OF A BREAK IS
17:30:33 NECESSARY?
17:30:36 A TEN-MINUTE BREAK?
17:30:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS 5:30.
17:30:40 SO AT 5:40 WE WILL COME BACK.
17:30:43 TEN-MINUTE RECESS FOR THEM TO FIX EVERYTHING.
17:30:45 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 5:40.
17:53:54 THANK YOU.
17:53:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL.
17:53:59 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
17:54:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
17:54:01 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
17:54:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
17:54:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
17:54:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
17:54:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
17:54:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, FORGIVE ME.
17:54:14 IF THE CAN ANNOUNCE THE PRESENCE OF A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
17:54:16 >>CLERK: YES, THEY ARE.
17:54:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A FULL PHYSICAL QUORUM.
17:54:22 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 5:01 HEARINGS.
17:54:25 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
17:54:30 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
17:54:33 >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE AGENDA REAL FAST?
17:54:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
17:54:38 >> I KNOW ONE ITEM WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WAITING
17:54:40 OUTSIDE BUT ALSO ITEM NUMBER 9.
17:54:44 THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON IT HAVE ASKED US IN THE
17:54:46 LAST FEW MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO WAIT SEVERAL
17:54:49 HOURS TO TRY TO PUT IT AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
17:54:55 SO IF WE COULD AS PART OF AN ACCOMMODATION FOR SOME OF
17:54:58 THOSE FOLKS TO PUT THAT EARLIER AND THEY WOULD THANK
17:54:58 US.
17:55:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT WE WILL DO IS ITEM NUMBER 1
17:55:03 AND OPEN THE 6:00 HEARINGS AND START WITH ITEM NUMBER 3
17:55:09 -- SORRY, ITEM NUMBER 9 AND THEN 3.
17:55:11 >>BILL CARLSON: 9 OR 5?
17:55:12 9, OKAY.
17:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WOULD LIKE A FULL COUNCIL FOR
17:55:18 THAT.
17:55:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, SUGGESTION.
17:55:25 NUMBER TWO IS A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER WITH A MOTION TO
17:55:26 WITHDRAW.
17:55:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION HERE.
17:55:32 A MEMO TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 2.
17:55:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
17:55:36 MOVING 9 TO 1 NOW?
17:55:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS LET'S TAKE THE
17:55:42 5:00S, AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AT
17:55:45 THE 6:00 BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT EVEN OPEN AND WE ARE NOT
17:55:47 PREPARED TO DO THAT AND MAY NOT BE ANYBODY JOINING US
17:55:49 FOR THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES.
17:55:51 TAKE CARE OF THE 5:00 FIRST.
17:55:52 ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND TWO.
17:55:55 ITEM NUMBER ONE IS PREPARED TO GO FORWARD, BUT YOU HAVE
17:55:59 RECEIVED A MEMORANDUM THAT THE APPLICANT, THE PERSON
17:56:04 SEEKING THE PETITION FOR REVIEW, THE ORGANIZATION, IS
17:56:10 WITHDRAWING, AND THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED, THE
17:56:12 WITHDRAWAL ACCEPTED.
17:56:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER TWO.
17:56:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
17:56:26 >> MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND FROM
17:56:28 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
17:56:30 ITEM NUMBER ONE.
17:56:33 GO AHEAD.
17:56:36 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN.
17:56:40 MR. CLEMENT IS ON LINE AND MR. COTTON IF YOU RAISE YOUR
17:56:42 RIGHT HAND.
17:56:44 >> DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
17:56:46 WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
17:56:47 OKAY, THANK YOU.
17:56:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH ITEM
17:56:52 NUMBER 1, THE REVIEW HEARING.
17:56:54 MR. COTTON.
17:56:57 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
17:57:04 CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING PETITION FOR REVIEW AT 0612
17:57:07 RIVER VIEW TERRACE AT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
17:57:11 THE SEPTEMBER 21 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUED BY CITY
17:57:15 COUNCIL.
17:57:19 SPECIFICALLY FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES,
17:57:25 PRIMARILY THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT HE FLIP HIS PLAN
17:57:30 THAT SOME OF THE SKATEBOARD RAMPS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF
17:57:31 THE PROPERTY BE FLIPPED TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE
17:57:32 PROPERTY.
17:57:35 THE APPLICANT HAS A REVISED SITE PLAN THAT I HAVE, BUT
17:57:40 I WILL LET HIM -- I WILL LET MR. CLEMENT GOES OVER IT
17:57:41 WHEN HE GETS THE OPPORTUNITY.
17:57:44 JUST AS A REMINDER, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT WENT
17:57:49 BEFORE STAFF WAS TO INCREASE THE WIDTH OF A RAMP FROM
17:57:55 THE SKATEBOARD RAMP FROM EIGHT FEET TO 24 INCHES TO 22
17:57:59 FEET TO 155 FEET AND INCREASE THE HEIGHT FROM THREE
17:58:01 FEET TO 4.75 FEET.
17:58:05 AGAIN IT WAS CONTINUED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 21 PUBLIC
17:58:06 HEARING.
17:58:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
17:58:09 ANYBODY ELSE?
17:58:11 ALL RIGHT.
17:58:14 MR. CLEMENT.
17:58:17 >> GOOD EVENING, HEY, I --
17:58:17 [INAUDIBLE]
17:59:01 MR. COTTON, IS IT --
17:59:01 >> EXCELLENT.
17:59:06 SO I HAVE MY ORIGINAL PRESENTATION ABOVE, AND I THREW
17:59:09 IN AN ADDENDUM TO BE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH THIS VERY
17:59:13 BRIEFLY.
17:59:14 I -- NEIGHBORS.
17:59:20 LAST MEETING I HEARD THE SIX NEIGHBORS I HAD -- THEY
17:59:22 ARE NOT REALLY MY NEIGHBORS.
17:59:25 THEY ARE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD SPEAK OUT AGAINST ME DOING
17:59:25 THIS.
17:59:28 SO I WANTED TO GET A LITTLE SUPPORT FROM MY NEXT DOOR
17:59:29 NEIGHBORS.
17:59:31 THIS IS MY NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST OF ME.
17:59:33 THEY LIVE IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR.
17:59:37 IT IS THE MOORE FAMILY, JESS AND RICK AND THEIR THREE
17:59:38 KIDS.
17:59:40 I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS REAL QUICK.
17:59:44 RYAN IS A VERY COURTEOUS NEIGHBOR AND FATHER AND
17:59:45 FRIEND.
17:59:48 WHENEVER HE HAS A GET-TOGETHER HE REACHES OUT TO US.
17:59:53 MY HUSBAND AND I ALLOWED HIM TO PARK GUESTS ON THE
17:59:54 PROPERTY.
17:59:58 AN AREA WHERE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS CAN GATHER
18:00:01 AND GET OUTSIDE AND HAPPY TO HAVE THIS HOKEY OUTLET TO
18:00:05 ENJOY AND HOPE YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
18:00:07 THE OTHER NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT.
18:00:10 INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY ARE NEIGHBORS, BUT I DON'T
18:00:13 HANG OUT WITH THESE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
18:00:16 BUT I AM FRIENDLY WITH THEM AND I HAVE GOOD RELATIONS
18:00:16 WITH THEM.
18:00:19 THE GARCIA FAMILY, EDDIE AND PAULA.
18:00:22 SIX YOUNG GRANDCHILDREN WHO LOVE TO VISIT AND THEY ARE
18:00:24 WELCOME TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND SKATE NEXT DOOR.
18:00:26 A SAFE, FUN PLACE.
18:00:28 WE LOVE OUR NEW HOME.
18:00:32 THEY LIVED THERE ABOUT A YEAR AND BELIEVE THAT RYAN AND
18:00:34 FAMILY ADDED TO OUR POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
18:00:39 WITH MY WIFE, GRANDCHILDREN PLEASE VOTE IN FAVOR OF
18:00:40 RYAN CLEMENTS.
18:00:44 MY DRAWINGS ARE NEXT, BUT REAL QUICK THE NEIGHBORS WHO
18:00:47 HAD AN ISSUE LAST TIME, YOU CAN SEE MY HOUSE IN THE
18:00:49 BLUE RIGHT BY THE RIVER.
18:00:52 THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR THAT HAD AN ISSUE WITH ME WAS
18:00:55 APPROXIMATELY FRONT DOOR TO FRONT DOOR A QUARTER MILE
18:00:55 AWAY.
18:00:58 AND ANOTHER NEIGHBOR THAT HAD ISSUE WITH ME WAS THREE
18:01:00 QUARTERS OF A MILE AWAY.
18:01:02 THEY ATTACKED MY CHARACTER.
18:01:04 THEY SAID WE TOOK OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:01:08 THEY ACCUSED ME OF RUNNING MY BUSINESS OUT OF MY HOUSE.
18:01:10 DOING EVENTS FOR MY BUSINESS.
18:01:13 I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ALL OF THAT IS UNTRUE.
18:01:17 MY REBUTTALS ARE BELOW.
18:01:18 I WANTED IT FOR THE RECORD.
18:01:22 I DIDN'T THINK I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS LINE BY LINE.
18:01:27 MY TWO NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS HAVE FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIPS
18:01:30 LIKE FRIENDLY NEIGHBORS AND THESE NEIGHBORS QUARTER
18:01:32 MILE AWAY HAVE ISSUE WITH IT.
18:01:35 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS ABOUT AND I DON'T THINK
18:01:36 WE NEED TO GO ANY FURTHER.
18:01:43 IF THAT IS OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE DRAWINGS.
18:01:47 SO THE UPDATED DRAWING HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE OVERHEAD.
18:01:52 AS A REMINDER, THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF MY PROPERTY IS 60
18:01:58 FEET AND THE ENTIRE LENGTH IS 540 FEET FROM THE -- FROM
18:02:00 THE STREET TO THE RIVER.
18:02:04 SO WHAT I BASICALLY DID WAS -- THIS IS A BETTER VIEW OF
18:02:05 MY CHANGES.
18:02:06 UPDATED DRAWING DETAILS.
18:02:10 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK RIGHT HERE, THAT IS THE EXISTING
18:02:13 STRUCTURE APPROVED UNDER THE EXCEPTION ALREADY.
18:02:15 THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
18:02:19 AND RIGHT HERE IN THIS SPACE, THAT IS WHERE I MOVED
18:02:21 EVERYTHING OFF OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE EASEMENT AS MUCH
18:02:22 AS POSSIBLE.
18:02:25 THAT WILL BE A MINIMUM OF FOUR FEET AWAY NOW.
18:02:29 SO FROM RIGHT THERE, I FINISHED IN RAMP -- THE BACK OF
18:02:33 THIS IS JUST UNFINISHED RIGHT NOW AND FINISH THAT RAMP
18:02:35 UP AS QUICKLY AS I COULD.
18:02:38 PULL OFF THE EASEMENT DIRECTLY BACK OVER TO MY -- TO MY
18:02:39 EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
18:02:41 THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS THE DARKER PART.
18:02:44 THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY IS THE NEW PART.
18:02:46 I HAVE THIS OBSTACLE AS THE SAME.
18:02:50 AND I ADDED THESE OBSTACLES OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
18:02:56 THIS IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO TEN FEET IN WIDTH.
18:02:57 SAME WITH THIS RAMP.
18:03:00 IT GOES NO FURTHER THAN I INITIALLY PROPOSED AND STILL
18:03:03 PLENTY OF GREEN SPACE OVER ON THIS SIDE AS WELL.
18:03:07 ESSENTIALLY ABOUT THE SAME FLAT AREA OF CONCRETE THAT I
18:03:10 -- THAT I INTENDED ON INSTALLING BEFORE HAND.
18:03:14 I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME AS
18:03:19 WELL IS THAT WHAT MR. COTTON SAID I WANTED TO INCREASE
18:03:22 THE LENGTH OF THE RAMP TO 155 FEET.
18:03:26 THE LENGTH OF THE RAMPS AREN'T 155 FEET.
18:03:32 NOTHING IS NOWHERE -- ANYWHERE NEAR AS BIG FOR THE
18:03:34 DRAWINGS.
18:03:42 THE TALLEST ONE TWO THE FEW SIX INCHES TO ONE FOOT FOUR
18:03:43 INCHES.
18:03:46 IF YOU COUNT FLAT CONCRETE PART OF MY DRIVEWAY.
18:03:51 THAT IS NOT A SKATEBOARD RAMP BUT A DRIVEWAY TALK PARK
18:03:51 AND DRIVE ON.
18:03:55 AND AS YOU REQUESTED, ALL SERVICES OF OBSTACLES TO BE
18:03:59 CONSTRUCTED WITH CONCRETE SO WE CAN KEEP THE NOISE DOWN
18:04:03 WHICH WAS NEVER AN ISSUE, PERIOD, ANYWAY.
18:04:05 AND, OF COURSE, AS REQUESTED BY ONE OF THE
18:04:08 COUNCILMEMBERS LAST TIME.
18:04:11 I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. CITRO.
18:04:14 NO MORE THAN TEN SKATERS WILL RIDE STRUCTURES AT A TIME
18:04:18 AND NO SKATEBOARDING WILL TAKE PLACE EVER DARK EVER
18:04:19 BECAUSE I HAVE NO LIGHTS.
18:04:22 I DON'T INTEND ON PUTTING LIGHTS.
18:04:24 AND I ACTUALLY AM A EARLY RISER.
18:04:28 BY TO BED EARLY AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY AT MY HOUSE
18:04:32 SKATING ANYWAY.
18:04:34 ANYONE I HAVE OVER, WE ARE DONE AT DARK.
18:04:38 THAT IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME AND I WAS
18:04:42 HOPING TO GET THE APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT TO
18:04:51 GO FORWARD AND GET THE ENGINEER DRAWING AND SUBMIT MY A
18:04:53 PROPER APPLICATION FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.
18:04:55 THANK YOU FOR HIRING ME OUT.
18:04:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
18:05:03 HEARING NONE.
18:05:06 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
18:05:07 ITEM NUMBER ONE?
18:05:09 ITEM NUMBER ONE?
18:05:14 >>CLERK: NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON ITEM AND NO
18:05:15 WRITTEN COMMENTS.
18:05:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE AT THE KIOSK OR ANYONE IN
18:05:21 THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK.
18:05:22 AILEEN ROSARIO.
18:05:23 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THIS IS AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT
18:05:24 AND PLANNING.
18:05:27 NO ONE HERE AT THIS SITE.
18:05:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:05:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
18:05:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:05:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE CLERK SAID THERE WERE NO WRITTEN
18:05:39 COMMENTS.
18:05:41 >>CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
18:05:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I TRIED TO PULL UP -- THE INFORMATION
18:05:47 -- I SEE SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS HERE IN PD F WASN'T
18:05:49 GOING TO PULL THEM UP.
18:05:51 BUT IF YOU SAY THEY ARE NOT THERE --
18:05:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THERE WERE WRITTEN COMMENTS ON
18:05:55 THE FIRST HEARING.
18:05:57 >>CLERK: FROM SEPTEMBER.
18:06:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT NOT ON THIS ONE?
18:06:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
18:06:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:06:07 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME BY
18:06:09 COUNCILMEMBERS?
18:06:10 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:06:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, THE
18:06:19 OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AT 66001 AND THE OWNER OF THE
18:06:28 PROPERTY 6012 AND THERE IS ONE OTHER OWNER AT -- I
18:06:30 MEAN, I HAVE THREE COMMENTS HERE.
18:06:45 I DON'T KNOW HOW FARTHER FROM THIS RESIDENCE.
18:06:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
18:06:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYBODY KNOW HOW FAR THEY ARE?
18:06:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THE ADDRESSES.
18:07:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 6001 RIVER TERRACE AND THE OWNER AT
18:07:05 6012 RIVER TERRACE.
18:07:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 6012 IS THE PETITIONER.
18:07:11 MR. CLEMENTS.
18:07:15 >> RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HOUSE.
18:07:18 AND THEY SAID THEY ARE FINE WITH IT.
18:07:21 THEY SENT A LETTER THAT THE DEPUTY REVIEWED IN THE
18:07:24 FIRST HEARING IN SEPTEMBER.
18:07:29 THEY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND SENT SUPPORT FOR IT.
18:07:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST WANTED TO KNOW.
18:07:31 THANK YOU.
18:07:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:07:34 ANYBODY ELSE?
18:07:36 HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
18:07:38 IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
18:07:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
18:07:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
18:07:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
18:07:43 ANY OPPOSED?
18:07:48 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL REGARDING THE -- THIS
18:07:51 PETITION THAT IS BEING REVIEWED.
18:07:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, MARTIN SHELBY,
18:07:56 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
18:08:01 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM SENIOR ASSISTANT
18:08:04 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ WITH REGARD TO THIS.
18:08:06 IF YOU NEED THAT DISCUSSION, SHE IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU
18:08:08 IF YOU WANT.
18:08:09 IT IS UP TO COUNCIL.
18:08:11 IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
18:08:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ WOULD LIKE
18:08:17 TO PRESENT THE OPTIONS WHICH ARE TO APPROVE.
18:08:18 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:08:20 YOU CAN EITHER AFFIRM --
18:08:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, YOU NEED THE MICROPHONE.
18:08:32 THERE WE GO.
18:08:34 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, SUSAN
18:08:40 JOHNSON-VELEZ, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
18:08:40 TWO OPTIONS.
18:08:42 THIS PERMIT WAS DENIED.
18:08:45 AFFIRM THE ACTIONS OF DENYING THE PERMIT OR GRANT THE
18:08:49 PERMIT WITH -- AND YOU ARE ABLE TO IMPOSE CONTINUES TO
18:08:51 THE EXTENT YOU FEEL IS REASONABLE.
18:08:53 COUNCIL DID HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONTINUES THAT I
18:08:57 BELIEVE MR. CLEMENTS MENTIONED IN HIS PRESENTATION THIS
18:09:00 EVENING AT THE LAST HEARING.
18:09:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
18:09:07 >>BILL CARLSON: POSSIBLE TO PUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION
18:09:08 RESTRICTIONS IN THERE OR NOT?
18:09:10 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF YOU BELIEVE IT IS NECESSARY
18:09:14 TO ENSURE NO PUBLIC INJURY TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND
18:09:18 WELFARE, CERTAINLY.
18:09:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID THE MOTION TO REVERSE?
18:09:25 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: GRANT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION OR
18:09:30 DENY THE GRANTS EXCEPTION.
18:09:33 >> WAS THERE DISCUSSION AT THE FIRST PORTION WHEN THIS
18:09:35 WAS FIRST HEARD REGARDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT
18:09:37 SOMEHOW RINGS A BELL FOR ME?
18:09:41 I WONDER IF THAT WAS DISCUSSED AS SOMETHING THAT WAS
18:09:44 CONSIDERED TO BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT IF COUNCIL FELT
18:09:49 NEEDED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT I DON'T HAVE
18:09:52 THAT RECOLLECTION, BUT I WANT TO BE SURE IF THAT WAS
18:09:55 ADDRESSED.
18:09:58 DID YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. CHAIR?
18:10:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE DID.
18:10:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTIONS TO THE PETITIONER OR STAFF.
18:10:11 IT IS IMPORTANT TO OPEN THAT IF THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE TO
18:10:13 BE RESOLVE.
18:10:18 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CLEMENTS CAN SAY WHAT HE THINKS
18:10:20 IS REASONABLE?
18:10:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
18:10:27 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:10:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
18:10:31 YOU SAID YOU WILL NOT USE IT AT NIGHT.
18:10:33 WHAT DO YOU THINK -- I KNOW YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO US
18:10:36 TO TALK ABOUT GENERAL RULES, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A
18:10:40 REASONABLE SET OF GUIDELINES TO PUT IN TO REASSURE YOUR
18:10:40 NEIGHBORS.
18:10:43 THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT IF IT IS THERE AND YOU
18:10:46 MOVE FOR SOME REASON, THE NEXT -- UNLESS LEGAL CORRECTS
18:10:49 ME, THE NEXT OWNER COULD USE IT ANY TIME OR DAY OR
18:10:50 NIGHT.
18:10:55 IF WE PUT RESTRICTIONS IN WILL HELP FOR THE FUTURE.
18:10:58 >> I THINK WHAT COULD BE FAIR IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT,
18:11:02 SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC BASKETBALL COURTS THAT ARE IN
18:11:03 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY.
18:11:06 LIKE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS A PARK WHERE THERE IS
18:11:06 A BASKETBALL COURT.
18:11:10 THE LIGHTS STAY ON AT NIGHT THIS TIME OF YEAR.
18:11:12 MAYBE IT IS 9 OR 10:00.
18:11:16 I AM NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A
18:11:20 REASONABLE TIME, 9 OR 10:00.
18:11:22 >>BILL CARLSON: SUNRISE TO SUNSET?
18:11:25 >> SUNRISE TO SUNSET FOR ME PERSONALLY IS GREAT, BUT
18:11:30 FOR THE NEXT PERSON -- I DON'T THINK I AM MOVING, BUT I
18:11:30 HEAR YOU.
18:11:32 I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.
18:11:34 I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
18:11:38 PLEASE NOTE THAT WE DID ESTABLISH -- MY ARGUMENT LAST
18:11:42 TIME THAT THE NOISE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE THERE.
18:11:44 YOU CAN'T HEAR THE SKATE BOARDS.
18:11:47 YOU CAN'T HEAR BICYCLE RIDING.
18:11:50 YOU CAN HEAR KIDS LAUGHING AND MUSIC, BUT THOSE THINGS
18:11:55 ARE COVERED BY NOISE ORDINANCES.
18:11:59 >>BILL CARLSON: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, SUNRISE TO SUNSET
18:12:01 IS APPROPRIATE TO PUT IN?
18:12:02 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WHATEVER YOU FEEL IS
18:12:05 APPROPRIATE, MR. CARLSON.
18:12:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
18:12:08 HEARING.
18:12:09 IS THAT A QUESTION --
18:12:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A QUESTION.
18:12:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:12:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM LOOKING.
18:12:20 STAFF IS STILL NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT, CORRECT?
18:12:24 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:12:28 STAFF DOESN'T A POSITION ON IT REGARDLESS -- ACCEPT THE
18:12:32 FACT IT DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 27.
18:12:36 IT IS UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
18:12:38 ADMINISTRATION.
18:12:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS MY QUESTION, HE COME BACK AND
18:12:44 DIDN'T TRY TO RECTIFY CHAPTER 27.
18:12:46 >>ERIC COTTON: PARDON?
18:12:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE HAS NOT COME BACK TO YOU.
18:12:51 >>ERIC COTTON: NOTHING.
18:12:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE ZONING DEPARTMENT SAYS HE IS NOT
18:12:58 IN COMPLIANCE AND NOT TO GO FORWARD KHAT COLT CORRECT,
18:13:01 UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE OR DENY THE REQUEST.
18:13:03 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF I COULD CLARIFY, MR. GUDES.
18:13:06 BY THIS VERY NATURE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, IT IS
18:13:12 SPEAKING OF VARIANCE, FULL, OR EXCEPTION TO WHAT THE
18:13:13 CODE CRITERIA.
18:13:16 AND I BELIEVE MR. COTTON CAN GO OVER THEM THE LENGTH
18:13:21 AND WIDTH OF THE SKATEBOARD RAMP THE WAY OUR CODE IS
18:13:22 WRITTEN.
18:13:26 SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITH
18:13:27 THIS APPLICATION.
18:13:29 >> MAY I PLEASE SPEAK AGAIN?
18:13:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
18:13:33 >> I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT.
18:13:37 YOUR MEASURING THE LENGTH OF THE RAMPS FOR THE DISTANCE
18:13:41 OF THE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL RAMPS
18:13:42 THEMSELVES.
18:13:46 THAT RAMP IS JUST -- THERE IS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FLAT
18:13:46 CONCRETE THERE.
18:13:50 THOSE ARE NOT -- FLAT CONCRETE IS NOT DEFINED AS A
18:13:55 SKATEBOARD RAMP, OKAY, SO THAT IS 155 FOOT.
18:13:58 NONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL OBSTACLES ARE BIGGER THAN WHAT
18:14:01 THE CODE CURRENTLY ALLOWS.
18:14:04 THE WAY IT IS BEING VIEWED AND DISCUSSED.
18:14:09 YOU CAN -- ON FLAT CONCRETE, YOU CAN DRIVE ON IT, YOU
18:14:11 CAN -- IT IS -- IT IS LIKE MY DRIVEWAY.
18:14:15 SO I DO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE FACT MY RAMPS --
18:14:18 THAT I AM ASKING FOR 155 FOR LONG RAMP.
18:14:19 I AM NOT.
18:14:21 I AM ASKING FOR SEVERAL SMALL RAMPS THAT ARE TIED
18:14:23 TOGETHER WITH FLAT CONCRETE.
18:14:26 THAT IS HOW I WOULD LIKE YOU FOLKS TO LOOK AT IT,
18:14:29 BECAUSE YOU ARE -- I AM NOT REQUESTING FOR
18:14:31 155-FOOT-LONG RAMP.
18:14:35 IT IS MY DRIVEWAY AND THESE RAMPS HAPPEN TO CONNECT TO
18:14:36 MY FLAT DRIVEWAY.
18:14:37 THANK YOU.
18:14:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
18:14:40 COUNCILMEMBERS?
18:14:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:14:44 WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BASKETBALL COURT.
18:14:46 I AM NOT TRYING TO GET PICKY ON THIS THING.
18:14:49 THE GENTLEMAN JUST SPOKE ABOUT SAYING THE DRIVEWAY
18:14:53 WHICH IS 155 FEET LONG IS NOT PART OF THE SKATEBOARD.
18:14:56 I CAN APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IF IT IS USED AS PART OF THE
18:14:58 SKATEBOARD, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A BASKETBALL COURT WITH
18:15:05 155-FOOT RAMP, IT IS NOT A BASKETBALL COURT.
18:15:09 I DON'T KNOW.
18:15:12 >> BUT WE CAN HAVE MY -- MY DRIVEWAY IS ALREADY 300
18:15:13 FEET LONG.
18:15:16 I AM ONLY JUST ADDING ON TO THIS ONE PART OF IT.
18:15:19 MR. MIRANDA, I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT
18:15:22 IT LAST TIME WHEN I SAID CAN'T I -- MY POOL HAS A DECK
18:15:22 ON IT.
18:15:27 CAN I BUILD THE DECK 40 MORE FEET OUT AND PUT A RAMP ON
18:15:31 THE BACK OF IT AND NOW I HAVE A 45-FOOT SKATEBOARD.
18:15:36 A 40-FOOT DECK AND A 5-FOOT RAMP FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.
18:15:38 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:15:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
18:15:43 ANYBODY ELSE?
18:15:45 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
18:15:48 SORRY TO BELABOR IT.
18:15:52 BUT MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, ARE WE ABLE TO LEGALLY
18:15:55 TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE APPLICANT'S UNIQUE
18:16:00 SITUATION WITH HIS -- HIS BUSINESS AND HIS PROFESSIONAL
18:16:03 BACKGROUND IN CONSIDERING THIS?
18:16:07 OR DO WE HAVE TO TAKE IT ON THE TERMS OF THE LAND USE
18:16:08 ISSUE.
18:16:09 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO, YOU HAVE TO -- WHATEVER
18:16:12 YOUR DECISION WILL APPLY TO THE LAND REGARDLESS OF WHO
18:16:17 THE OWNER IS OF THE PROPERTY.
18:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
18:16:19 ANYBODY ELSE?
18:16:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU LET THE
18:16:25 PETITIONER HAVE THE LAST WORD.
18:16:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ASK TO
18:16:29 CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
18:16:29 >> NO, SIR.
18:16:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE
18:16:32 PUBLIC HEARING?
18:16:35 IF THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
18:16:39 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:16:41 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:16:45 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
18:16:48 >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL, DON'T WALK TOO FAR IN CASE I
18:16:55 DON'T GET THIS RIGHT, D 120-140-C.
18:16:59 I WOULD MOVE TO GRANT THE VARIANCE.
18:17:05 WITH THE PROVISION THAT USE OF THE -- THE FACILITIES
18:17:11 WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE TIME FROM SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
18:17:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO TO CLARIFY, YOU ARE REVERSING
18:17:14 THE STAFF DECISION?
18:17:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, DID I SAY THAT RIGHT, MISS
18:17:18 JOHNSON-VELEZ?
18:17:20 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, YOU ARE GRANTING THE
18:17:22 DESIGN EXEMPTION.
18:17:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
18:17:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL SECOND THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
18:17:31 -- I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.
18:17:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:17:35 ANY DISCUSSION?
18:17:37 ALL RIGHT, DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE.
18:17:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, PLEASE.
18:17:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
18:17:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:17:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
18:17:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:17:49 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
18:17:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
18:17:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
18:17:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:18:01 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH GUDES, MIRANDA AND VIERA
18:18:01 VOTING NO.
18:18:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:18:05 MAY I HAVE A MOTION --
18:18:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CLEMENTS, YOU PASSED.
18:18:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THE CONDITION, MR. DINGFELDER.
18:18:12 >> THANK YOU, FOLKS.
18:18:13 VERY MUCH.
18:18:14 GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
18:18:14 THANK YOU.
18:18:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS.
18:18:16 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
18:18:19 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 6 P.M. HEARINGS.
18:18:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:18:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:18:31 BEFORE WE GO WITH THE FIRST ITEM, WE HAVE HOUSEKEEPING
18:18:34 THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF.
18:18:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD EVENING, RYAN MANASSE WITH
18:18:40 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
18:18:47 ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO 2/11/21.
18:18:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION -- WE HAVE
18:18:51 PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM.
18:18:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT TO CALL THEM IN.
18:18:56 OR GO TO THE KIOSK.
18:18:59 FRANKLY IT'S -- A MOTION TO CONTINUE -- IS THE
18:19:04 PETITIONER LOGGED IN OR PARTICIPATING IN ANY WAY?
18:19:10 MR. MANASSE, ARE YOU AWARE?
18:19:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY TO SPEAK, PETITIONER FOR
18:19:17 APPLICATION NUMBER 3 ON THE LINE?
18:19:20 >>CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
18:19:24 AND WE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS ON IN ITEM.
18:19:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE PETITIONER PRESENT, DO YOU
18:19:27 KNOW?
18:19:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T BELIEVE -- IS THE
18:19:29 PETITIONER HERE?
18:19:32 I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC.
18:19:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR ITEM 3?
18:19:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:19:40 WE CAN'T SPEAK ON THE MERITS OF ITEM NUMBER 3 BUT
18:19:40 CONTINUANCE.
18:19:43 THE REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM
18:19:45 TO FEBRUARY 11, 2021.
18:19:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO BRING TO THE
18:19:50 COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING
18:19:53 FROM JUNE 11 OF THIS -- OF THIS YEAR.
18:19:59 IT IS ASKED BE CONTINUED TO FEBRUARY 11, 2021.
18:20:01 THE PETITIONER IS NOT HERE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS
18:20:04 REGARDING THAT AND IS NOT REGISTERED.
18:20:08 SO, THEREFORE, COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE -- IT WOULD BE
18:20:11 APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT HAS ELAPSED
18:20:16 SINCE THE TIME OF ORIGINAL NOTICE, THAT IS WOULD BE
18:20:18 SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD NORMALLY CONTINUE TO ASK
18:20:21 THE PETITIONER WHETHER THEY WILL BE WILLING TO RENOTICE
18:20:23 THAT, BUT THE PETITIONER IS NOT PRESENT IN ANY FORM OR
18:20:26 FASHION ABLE TO BE COMMUNICATED WITH.
18:20:26 THAT IS THE CONCERN.
18:20:29 YOU CAN CERTAINLY HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO
18:20:32 THE CONTINUANCE, BUT MIND YOU, THEY CAN'T GET INTO THE
18:20:35 MERITS AND I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED THAT THE
18:20:36 PETITIONER IS NOT PRESENT.
18:20:41 BY THE WAY I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES DOES HAVE A
18:20:42 STATEMENT HE NEEDS TO PUT INTO THE RECORD.
18:20:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE GO TO THAT.
18:20:49 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
18:20:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:20:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SIGNED A STATEMENT, MR. SHELBY?
18:20:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE FILED WITH THE CLERK THIS
18:21:01 EVENING AS PREVIOUSLY RELATIVE TO THIS CASE A CONFLICT
18:21:06 FORM SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF YOUR FAMILY'S RELATIONSHIP
18:21:10 WITH THE PETITIONER, YOU ARE ABSTAINING TO AVOID AN
18:21:11 APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
18:21:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S CORRECT.
18:21:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS
18:21:15 DISCUSSION.
18:21:16 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:21:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:21:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WONDER GOING STAFF HAS ANY
18:21:25 CONTACT WITH THE PETITIONER AND THE PETITIONER'S AGENT
18:21:28 WHY A ADDITIONAL CONTINUANCE.
18:21:30 I DON'T KNOW IF THE EARLY CONTINUANCES WAS RELATED TO
18:21:34 COVID AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS
18:21:37 LIKE WE ARE ON THE, WHAT, THIRD CONTINUANCE, THAT'S
18:21:39 CORRECT?
18:21:41 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, YES.
18:21:42 THE THIRD CONTINUANCE.
18:21:47 THE APPLICANT'S E-MAIL HE SENT IN THAT IS PART OF THE
18:21:54 RECORD SAY THEY ARE NOT IN THE CONDITION TO GO TO THE
18:21:57 NOVEMBER MEETING AND THE OWNER IS ATTEMPTING TO WEIGH
18:22:03 OPTION ON THIS INVESTMENT IMPACT FOR USES, ACCESS
18:22:06 EXCEPTIONS TO GIDDENS, ETC.
18:22:09 THE APPLICATION HEARING THAT THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM,
18:22:12 CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE APPLICANT TO GO BACK AND
18:22:17 EVALUATE REMOVAL OF ONE OF THE DRIVEWAY ACCESSES TO
18:22:20 GIDDENS AS WELL AS WORK WITH THE NEIGHBOR WITH SOME
18:22:21 LANDSCAPING ISSUES.
18:22:24 SO THE APPLICANT IS STILL ATTEMPTING TO MAKE THOSE
18:22:31 CHANGES.
18:22:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE SIR.
18:22:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE FROM THE COMMUNITY WITH
18:22:37 RELATING TO THE CONTINUANCE.
18:22:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WERE HERE TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
18:22:43 DO WE SWEAR EVERYONE IN?
18:22:48 IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, RAISE YOUR RIGHT
18:22:50 HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
18:22:52 ITEM NUMBER 3.
18:22:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO REMIND THE MEMBERS OF THE
18:22:58 PUBLIC THE MERITS OF THIS CASE ARE NOT RIPE TO BE
18:23:01 DISCUSSED TONIGHT BY CITY COUNCIL.
18:23:04 SO THE ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE YOUR POSITION WITH REGARD
18:23:07 TO THE CONTINUANCE OR WHATEVER RELATES TO THE FACT THAT
18:23:09 THIS CASE IS NOT BEING HEARD TONIGHT.
18:23:13 SO IF YOU COULD JUST LIMIT THAT -- RATHER THAN THE
18:23:16 FACTS OF THE CASE BECAUSE COUNCIL CANNOT CONSIDER ANY
18:23:18 FACTS THAT YOU TESTIFY TONIGHT THAT WILL HAVE TO TAKE
18:23:20 PLACE AT A FUTURE HEARING AND YOU HEARD THAT THE
18:23:24 PETITIONER HAVE ASKED FEBRUARY 11, 2021.
18:23:27 I AM GOING TO ASK IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER MAKING THAT
18:23:34 CONDITION THAT THE ITEM BE RENOTICED AS REQUIRED -- AS
18:23:36 A CONDITION OF GRANTING THE CONTINUANCE IN THAT THE
18:23:39 PETITIONER IS NOT PRESENT.
18:23:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
18:23:44 SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 3, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND,
18:23:47 STAND UP AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
18:23:50 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM YOU ARE WILL TELL THE
18:23:53 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:23:54 THANK YOU.
18:23:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK.
18:23:58 PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN.
18:24:00 REMEMBER YOU CAN NOT SPEAK ON THE MERITS OF THE CASE
18:24:03 ONLY THE CONTINUANCE WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE BUT
18:24:05 YOU CAN'T GET TO THE NITTY GRITTY.
18:24:05 GO AHEAD.
18:24:10 >> HI --
18:24:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BRING IT DOWN TO YOU.
18:24:13 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
18:24:18 I AM ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS 5205 NORTH 9TH STREET.
18:24:21 I AGREE WITH THE CONTINUANCE; HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO
18:24:25 SAY THIS IS STARTING TO DRAG ON QUITE LENGTHY AND CAN
18:24:27 WE MAKE THIS THE LAST ONE?
18:24:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:24:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A QUESTION.
18:24:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A VAGUE RECOLLECTION AT THIS POINT.
18:24:39 WE DIRECTED OR REQUESTED THAT THE PETITIONER MEET WITH
18:24:42 THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
18:24:45 HAS ANY OF THAT HAPPENED WITH REGARD TO YOUR
18:24:47 RECOLLECTION?
18:24:49 >> HE REACHED OUT TO US VIA E-MAIL AND ASKED FOR EACH
18:24:52 OF US TO WEIGH IN ON OUR PREFERENCES.
18:24:57 AND SO SINCE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY HERE WHAT -- ANY
18:24:58 OF THE DETAILS.
18:25:02 I DON'T WANT TO DIVULGE THAT, BUT WE DID COME TO AN
18:25:04 UNITED FRONT.
18:25:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE WAS SOME COMMUNICATION.
18:25:07 >> YES.
18:25:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT PERSON.
18:25:12 GO AHEAD.
18:25:13 OKAY.
18:25:19 SHELBY SHE WILL WE HAVE ALTERNATING LECTERNS.
18:25:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WERE TO SPEAK FOLLOW THIS
18:25:24 ONE, ONE THIS ONE AND SO WE CAN SANITIZE THEM.
18:25:25 GO AHEAD, SIR.
18:25:27 >> MY UNDERSTANDING THEN IS WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT
18:25:29 THE --
18:25:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NAME FOR THE RECORD.
18:25:35 >> HAROLD MEDINA, 5204 NORTH 10TH STREET, HALF A BLOCK
18:25:38 AWAY FROM GIDDENS.
18:25:43 AND WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS GOING BE A
18:25:45 PUBLIC NOTICE AND THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO ADVERTISE
18:25:46 IT AGAIN?
18:25:48 IS THAT --
18:25:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN PUT IT AS A STIPULATION IN
18:25:54 GRANTING THE CONTINUANCE THAT IT BE RENOTICED.
18:25:55 THAT'S CORRECT?
18:25:58 >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY.
18:26:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR FEBRUARY 11, 2021.
18:26:04 BUT RENOTICED SO EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW.
18:26:07 NOT JUST -- IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR THE CONTINUANCE, TOO
18:26:08 BAD.
18:26:11 YOU WILL GET FORMAL DOCUMENTATION.
18:26:13 >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
18:26:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK?
18:26:17 ANYBODY ELSE?
18:26:18 NO?
18:26:18 ALL RIGHT.
18:26:22 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
18:26:23 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:26:24 YES, SIR.
18:26:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, BASED ON WHAT YOU
18:26:26 SAID.
18:26:29 THIS WAS SET FOR -- CONTINUED UNTIL NOVEMBER AND THEN
18:26:32 CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER AND NOW WE ARE HERE.
18:26:38 AND I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 11, 2021 AND
18:26:41 HOWEVER, THAT THE PETITIONER MUST NOTIFY ALL THOSE
18:26:44 WITHIN 250 FEET LIKE HE DID IN THE FIRST GO AROUND SO
18:26:46 EVERYBODY CAN BE NOTIFIED OF THE HEARING.
18:26:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT A MOTION, SIR?
18:26:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
18:26:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 6 P.M.?
18:26:56 I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.
18:26:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS WELLS.
18:27:03 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
18:27:07 WITH 27-149 OF THE CODE THAT WOULD REQUIRE REPOSTING AS
18:27:12 WELL RATHER THAN SPECIFYING WHAT TYPE OF NOTICE.
18:27:17 >> I MOVE THAT CHAPTER 27-149 OF THAT PETITIONER HAS TO
18:27:18 DO.
18:27:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:27:23 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
18:27:24 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:27:25 ANY OPPOSED?
18:27:26 NO?
18:27:31 OKAY, MOTION PASSES, FEBRUARY 11, 2021 IN THE EVENING.
18:27:33 I DON'T KNOW -- WE WILL PROBABLY BE BACK AT CITY HALL
18:27:36 AT THIS POINT.
18:27:38 SO 2020, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
18:27:39 WE ARE HERE NOW.
18:27:41 WE MIGHT BE THERE THEN.
18:27:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:27:44 MR. MANASSE.
18:27:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, LAND DEVELOPMENT
18:27:47 CORPORATION.
18:27:52 ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NO. REZ 20-41.
18:27:58 THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE MARCH 21, 2021.
18:28:02 >> IF YOU CAN BE SWORN IN IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN
18:28:03 YET.
18:28:06 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
18:28:08 TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:28:09 >> I DO.
18:28:12 GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
18:28:17 MY NAME JOHN GRANDOFF, SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA
18:28:18 PLAZA.
18:28:28 I REPRESENT MIKHAIL ZELTSER AND HIS FAMILY.
18:28:30 WE WANT THE FEBRUARY 11 HEARING.
18:28:33 WE HAVE BEEN PENDING ALMOST A YEAR NEXT SPRING.
18:28:37 THE REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE IS THAT MY CLIENT HAS
18:28:44 DECLINED TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT INDEMNIFYING THE CITY FOR
18:28:49 ANY DAMAGES THE CITY MAY INCUR AS A RESULT OF A LAWSUIT
18:28:53 THAT MAY BE FILED AS TO INADEQUATE NOTICE.
18:28:57 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I CAN'T ADVISE MY CLIENTS TO SIGN
18:29:01 SUCH AN AFFIDAVIT BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL HIM IF A LAWSUIT
18:29:02 WILL BE FILED.
18:29:05 THERE HAS BEEN NO UNDER OCCASION OF OPPOSITION TO THIS
18:29:09 APPLICATION; HOWEVER, WE ARE STYMIED BY THIS AFFIDAVIT
18:29:12 REQUIREMENT WHICH I CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT THE CITY
18:29:17 ATTORNEY IS ADVISING THAT TO PROTECT THE CITY, BUT THAT
18:29:19 IS THE REASON WE HAVE BEEN STRUNG OUT SO LONG.
18:29:24 HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL PASS AND WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING
18:29:27 TO RENOTICE THE PROPERTY AND REPOST THE PROPERTY
18:29:32 ACCORDING TO SECTION 27-149; HOWEVER, I CANNOT GIVE
18:29:36 THAT KIND OF ADVICE TO MY CLIENT OTHERWISE SO WE CANNOT
18:29:37 GO TONIGHT.
18:29:41 SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FEBRUARY 11, IF POSSIBLE.
18:29:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS WELLS.
18:29:46 >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY TO CLARIFY, THE ELECTION TO
18:29:48 PROCEED FORMS THAT WERE PREPARED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
18:29:51 OFFICE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED HOLDING VIRTUAL MEETINGS
18:29:54 HAVE BEEN REVISED SINCE CITY COUNCIL RESUMED HEARINGS
18:29:56 AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
18:30:00 THE INDEMNIFICATION PROVISION WAS REMOVED.
18:30:03 NO NEED TO INDEMNIFY THE CITY.
18:30:07 IT IS ONLY HOLDING THE CITY HARMLESS IN THE EVENT A
18:30:11 CHALLENGE IS MADE TO THIS COUNCIL'S DECISION BASED ON
18:30:15 THE FORM OF THE HEARING WITH REGARD TO CMT TECHNOLOGY.
18:30:20 THAT IS THE SOLE FOCUS OF THE ELECTION TO PROCEED AND
18:30:21 THE WAIVER INCLUDED IN THERE.
18:30:23 NO INDEMNIFICATION.
18:30:25 THANK YOU.
18:30:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GRANDOFF?
18:30:29 >> WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE.
18:30:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGARDLESS TO FEBRUARY 11.
18:30:36 >> YES, BECAUSE I CANNOT ADVISE MY CLIENT TO SIGN THAT
18:30:37 DOCUMENT.
18:30:41 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE.
18:30:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
18:30:44 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
18:30:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I SEE -- I SEE AUGUST
18:30:50 20 DATE ON THE AGENDA.
18:30:52 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THERE WAS A CONTINUANCE AND
18:30:56 WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD BEFORE
18:30:58 COUNCIL AND THE PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE IS AGREEING
18:31:04 TO RENOTICE PURSUANT TO 27-149, MY REQUEST WOULD THEN
18:31:08 BE FOR COUNCIL AS MAKING THAT PART OF THE MOTION AS YOU
18:31:09 HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY THIS EVENING.
18:31:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE DO, ANYONE ON ITEM
18:31:16 NUMBER 4 FOR THE CONTINUANCE ONLY, NOT THE MERIT OF THE
18:31:17 CASE.
18:31:22 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL?
18:31:23 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:31:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. MANASSE.
18:31:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: I HEARD FEBRUARY OR MARCH 11.
18:31:41 >> ANY ROOM ON FEBRUARY 11?
18:31:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE JUST DID THE PREVIOUS ONE.
18:31:48 >>RYAN MANASSE: AS FAR AS REZONING, NO.
18:31:49 FEBRUARY 11.
18:31:50 THIS ONE TO MARCH 11.
18:31:54 WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THOSE ITEMS AT 10.
18:31:55 >> MARCH 11 WILL DO.
18:31:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 11 WITH THE STIPULATION THIS
18:31:59 WILL BE RENOTICED.
18:32:00 >> WE WILL.
18:32:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO.
18:32:07 AILEEN ROSARIO, ANYBODY THERE AT THE KIOSK?
18:32:09 NO?
18:32:13 OKAY.
18:32:15 >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED THE REQUESTED CONTINUANCE
18:32:20 WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED STIPULATION BY MR. SHELBY.
18:32:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
18:32:28 6 P.M. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:32:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
18:32:30 OPPOSED?
18:32:32 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
18:32:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS NEXT ON CLEAN UP.
18:32:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, LAST ITEM NUMBER 7, THE
18:32:44 REQUEST TO BE CONTINUED TO JANUARY 21, 2021 AT 6 P.M.
18:32:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 7.
18:32:56 DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 7?
18:33:00 I SEE WE HAVE A REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER 7.
18:33:08 IF SHE IS ON THE LINE, MISS ECHEVERIA.
18:33:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT THE PETITIONER, THE
18:33:13 PETITIONER REPRESENTATIVE OR SOMEBODY TO SPEAK TO IT.
18:33:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
18:33:16 I THINK IT IS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
18:33:16 YES, SIR?
18:33:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD.
18:33:22 CLARIFICATION FROM MISS MARY SAMANIEGO.
18:33:24 THE REQUEST FOR JANUARY 21.
18:33:28 WE ADVISED THE AGENT THAT YOU WOULD BE EXCITING YOUR
18:33:30 COUNT FOR THAT NIGHT.
18:33:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:33:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD MR. MANASSE WAS HERE TO --
18:33:39 SOMETIMES WHEN ASK YOU FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT
18:33:40 AVAILABLE.
18:33:42 WE ARE NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL MARCH, CORRECT?
18:33:44 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT.
18:33:45 >> I WILL SECOND THAT.
18:33:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:33:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY LETTER OR EXPLANATION GIVEN BY
18:33:55 THE PETITIONER WITH REGARD TO THIS CONTINUANCE.
18:33:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PLANNER
18:34:02 WHO -- WHO WAS DEALING WITH THAT.
18:34:10 ONE SECOND.
18:34:12 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
18:34:16 THE APPLICANT, DOMAIN HOMES, SAID THEY HAVE INFORMATIVE
18:34:19 AND PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTY
18:34:23 OWNERS IN THE OAKFORD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND
18:34:27 NEED TIME TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES DISCUSSED.
18:34:30 SO THEY ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND
18:34:32 THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS.
18:34:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD WHERE MARCH WOULD BE
18:34:35 MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME.
18:34:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACQUIRE -- INQUIRE OF STAFF, WHEN IT
18:34:45 IS SCHEDULED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL?
18:34:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUED UNTIL OCTOBER 8.
18:34:50 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST
18:34:53 CONTINUANCE REQUEST BEYOND WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL MOTION
18:34:56 FOR THEM TO CONTINUE.
18:34:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
18:34:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:35:01 ANYBODY ELSE?
18:35:06 SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MARCH 11, 2021?
18:35:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
18:35:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR
18:35:14 CONTINUANCE.
18:35:16 WITH THE NOTICE, CORRECT?
18:35:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED.
18:35:21 PEOPLE INFORMED OCTOBER -- THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER AND
18:35:23 HERE WE ARE ONLY IN NOVEMBER.
18:35:25 SO IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
18:35:28 WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO MARCH AND COUNCIL'S DECISION IF
18:35:31 THEY THINK THAT WARRANTS ADDITIONAL NOTICE.
18:35:35 IF YOU DON'T DIRECT THAT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY COULD
18:35:41 FIND OUT BY -- FOR THE CITY'S INFORMATION FROM LAND
18:35:44 DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY WOULD NOT GET ANY OTHER FORMAL
18:35:48 NOTICE OTHER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE HEARD TONIGHT IF THEY
18:35:48 ARE WATCHING.
18:35:49 IF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:35:51 CERTAINLY THE PETITION -- THE PETITIONER CAN CERTAINLY
18:35:55 TELL THEM OF THE DATES OF THE ACTION, BUT HE CERTAINLY
18:35:58 DOESN'T HAVE AN OBLIGATION.
18:36:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:36:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MENTIONED MISS ECHEVERIA IS ON
18:36:05 THE LINE.
18:36:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS MISS ECHEVERIA ON THE LINE,
18:36:14 KATHERINE ECHEVERIA?
18:36:18 >> YES, SHE IS ON THE LINE AND I ELEVATED HER AS A
18:36:19 PANELIST.
18:36:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SINCE
18:36:22 REGISTERED.
18:36:26 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN.
18:36:28 UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU ARE MUTED.
18:36:39 I THINK YOU ARE MUTED.
18:36:43 >>CLERK: LOOKS LIKE SHE IS HAVING AUDIO -- SHE DOESN'T
18:36:47 HAVE ANY CAPABILITY AS FAR AS AUDIO.
18:36:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE DOES NOT HAVE AUDIO
18:36:52 CAPABILITY?
18:36:54 >>CLERK: NO, SIR.
18:36:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
18:37:13 IT SAYS YOU DON'T HAVE MICROPHONE ACCESS OR AUDIO.
18:37:17 MR. SHELBY, THE AWED YE DOES NOT HAVE AUDIO
18:37:20 CAPABILITY.
18:37:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, MR. CHAIRMAN,
18:37:23 THAT CAUSES AN ISSUE.
18:37:26 SHE CERTAINLY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING
18:37:31 TONIGHT, BUT SHE -- DOES SHE HAVE VIDEO CAPABILITY.
18:37:37 CAN YOU -- IF I CAN INQUIRE, HAVE YOU HEARD ARE WHAT IS
18:37:41 TAKING PLACE IF YOU NOD YES OR NO SO IT IS YOUR
18:37:44 UNDERSTANDING IF YOU ARE BEING REQUESTED WHAT IS BEING
18:37:46 REQUESTED FOR WHAT DATE.
18:37:48 WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
18:37:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
18:37:52 NOD YES OR NO TO THE QUESTIONS.
18:37:56 WE ARE LOOKING AT CONTINUING THIS ITEM TO MARCH 11,
18:37:57 2021.
18:38:00 DID YOU HEAR THAT?
18:38:03 IF YOU CAN NOD YES OR NO.
18:38:04 YES?
18:38:04 OKAY.
18:38:11 DO YOU DISAGREE WITH THE CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 11, 2021?
18:38:14 DO YOU?
18:38:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, YOU CAN'T TAKE THE TESTIMONY AS
18:38:20 TO THE BASIS OF THE DISAGREEMENT, BUT ONE THING YOU DO
18:38:23 KNOW IS THAT BY HER NODDING THAT SHE IS ON LINE AND
18:38:27 AWARE OF THE DATE THAT HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
18:38:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE SEE YOU.
18:38:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS IF THE COUNCIL WANTS
18:38:36 TO, A, REQUIRE NOTICE FOR THE MARCH DATE OR IF THE
18:38:38 COUNCIL FINDS BASED ON THE TOTALITY OF THE
18:38:40 CIRCUMSTANCES SUFFICIENT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD
18:38:44 WITHOUT ADDITIONAL NOTICE.
18:38:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS ECHEVERIA, DO YOU HAVE AN
18:38:51 ISSUE WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH RENOTICING TO THE
18:39:01 NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE MARCH 11 CONTINUANCE?
18:39:04 WOULD YOU LIKE US TO ADD THAT AS A STIPULATION THAT
18:39:07 THEY HAVE TO RENOTICE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO EVERYBODY
18:39:17 KNOWS?
18:39:18 THAT'S A NO.
18:39:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DIFFICULT -- UNDER THESE
18:39:23 CIRCUMSTANCES IT IS DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN AND FRANKLY
18:39:25 THE QUESTION IS --
18:39:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET THE RECORD INDICATE SHE SAYS
18:39:31 OKAY WITH HER FINGERS.
18:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
18:39:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL ADD THE STIPULATION.
18:39:40 IT WILL BE WAY IN MARCH.
18:39:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES TO
18:39:46 ADD A STIPULATION RENOTICED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO
18:39:47 EVERYBODY WILL KNOW.
18:39:48 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
18:39:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHAPTER 27-149.
18:39:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
18:39:57 WITH THE SPECIFIC CHAPTER REFERENCE.
18:40:02 THIS IS FOR RENOTICE FOR CONTINUANCE OF MARCH 11, 2021.
18:40:04 I BELIEVE ITS A 6 P.M. HEARING.
18:40:06 ALL IN FAVOR.
18:40:08 ANY OPPOSED?
18:40:09 ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES.
18:40:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:40:15 ANY OTHER HOUSEKEEPING, CLEANING UP, MR. MANASSE?
18:40:16 OKAY.
18:40:16 WE HAVE THE HEARINGS OPEN.
18:40:18 WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL.
18:40:21 I KNOW ONE COUNCILMEMBER MAY HAVE TO LEAVE.
18:40:24 LET'S START WITH ITEM NUMBER 9.
18:40:30 WE WILL TAKE THAT UP NOW SELF-REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR
18:40:31 THAT.
18:40:35 MISS WELLS, IF YOU WANT TO BEGIN ITEM NUMBER 9.
18:40:39 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF CITY
18:40:42 COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, CATE WELLS, CITY ATTORNEY.
18:40:49 AND WITH ME MISS HARGRETT AND OUR LITIGATION PRACTICE
18:40:49 GROUP.
18:40:53 THIS ITEM IS BEFORE COUNCIL OF A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR
18:40:58 REQUEST OF RELIEF FILED BY JAKE KRAMER ON BEHALF OF
18:41:03 JAY GUZZARDO AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FLORIDA LAND
18:41:06 USE AND ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION ACT.
18:41:09 I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS BEFORE PROVIDING
18:41:13 THE HISTORY OF THIS APPLICATION AND THE DETAILS OF THE
18:41:15 PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
18:41:18 UNLIKE THE STANDARD REZONING APPLICATIONS SCHEDULED
18:41:20 THIS EVENING, ANY TIME CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERS A
18:41:24 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL, YOUR ROLE IS LEGISLATIVE AND
18:41:28 ALLOWS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S
18:41:31 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
18:41:34 INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPACT AND PUBLIC
18:41:37 INTEREST RESULTING FROM THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
18:41:40 AFTER I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, YOU WILL HEAR FROM
18:41:43 DEREK SCHROTH WHO IS RETAINED TO BE THE SPECIAL
18:41:44 MAGISTRATE.
18:41:48 ONCE MR. SCHROTH DESCRIBES THE MEDIATION PROCESS THAT
18:41:51 WE FOLLOWED AND EXPLAIN HIS RECOMMENDATION, YOU WILL
18:41:54 HEAR FROM CITY STAFF, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, MR.
18:41:58 KRAMER AND HIS TEAM, THE PUBLIC, AND THEN PROVIDE MR.
18:42:02 CRIME KRAMER WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
18:42:05 FINALLY AS YOU CONSIDER THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
18:42:07 ENTERED INTO THE RECORD OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, PLEASE
18:42:11 REMEMBER THAT ALTHOUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
18:42:14 RECOMMENDATION IS A PUBLIC RECORD, ACTIONS OR
18:42:16 STATEMENTS OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE CITY AND FOR MR.
18:42:20 GUZZARDO IS EVIDENCE OF AN OFFER TO COMPROMISE AND
18:42:22 INADMISSIBLE IN ANY PROCEED.
18:42:25 I MENTION THIS IN THE EVENT CITY COUNCIL IS CONCERNED
18:42:30 ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT IF
18:42:34 THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.
18:42:38 YOUR FEBRUARY 13 MEETING, CITY COUNCIL BY A 4-3 VOTE
18:42:42 DENIED THE REZONING FROM RS-60 TO RS-50 WHICH WOULD
18:42:45 HAVE ALLOWED THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS
18:42:48 ON A PARCEL 108 FEET IN WIDTH.
18:42:53 THE DENIAL WAS BASED ON PART OF MR. GUZZARDO'S FAILURE
18:43:00 TO MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF WITH LAND USE OBJECTIVE 9.3
18:43:05 OF COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AND 9.5 OF
18:43:08 MAINTAINING STABILITY OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
18:43:11 WHEN THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF FILED ON MARCH 9, MY OFFICE
18:43:15 PROVIDED A MEMORANDUM DESCRIBING THE ADMINISTRATIVE
18:43:19 PROCEEDING UNDER SECTION 70.51 FLORIDA STATUTES.
18:43:22 INVOLVES A TWO-STEP PROCESS, THE FIRST OF WHICH
18:43:25 INVOLVES THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO CONDUCT AN INFORMAL
18:43:32 REMEDIATION DURING WHICH THE CITY AND MR. GUZZARDO OF
18:43:35 RESPONSIVE TO COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DENY THE
18:43:35 APPLICATION.
18:43:39 IN THIS CASE, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CONDUCT AND
18:43:41 INFORMAL MEDIATION.
18:43:44 DURING THE MEDIATION THE CITY AND PUBLIC WERE ALLOWED
18:43:49 TO COMMENT ON THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED BY MR. GUZZARDO.
18:43:52 AND AT THE CONCLUSION, CITY REPRESENTATIVES, MR.
18:43:57 GUZZARDO'S TEAM AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MADE THAT
18:44:01 PROGRESS WAS MADE AND AGREED TO COOPERATE IN THE SITE
18:44:03 PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
18:44:10 ON SEPTEMBER 8 MR. GUZZARDO CONVERTED TO PD PLANNED
18:44:12 DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND ISSUE SEPTEMBER 14, THE
18:44:15 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS RECOMMENDING THAT CITY COUNCIL
18:44:17 ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL.
18:44:19 SINCE THE SITE PLAN WAS FINALIZED AFTER THE MEDIATION
18:44:22 WAS HELD, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SCHEDULED A ZOOM
18:44:25 MEETING SEPTEMBER 22 IN ORDER TO PRESENT THE SITE PLAN
18:44:28 TO THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAD ELECTED TO
18:44:30 PARTICIPATE IN THE MEDIATION.
18:44:33 IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ALTHOUGH THE PUBLIC IS NOT
18:44:36 A PARTY TO THE MEDIATION AND DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO
18:44:40 PARTICIPATE IN THE ACTUAL NEGOTIATIONS, THE PUBLIC IS
18:44:43 ALLOWED TO ADDRESS ISSUES REGARDING THE PROPOSED SITE
18:44:44 PLAN.
18:44:48 TONIGHT'S HEARING IS PART OF THE FIRST STEP OF THE
18:44:50 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL TO
18:44:55 CONSIDER THE PD SITE PLAN AS THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
18:44:59 IF CITY COUNCIL REJECTS THE MEDIATED SETTLEMENT, THE
18:45:02 SECOND STEP IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS WOULD
18:45:04 COMMENCE, AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WILL HOLD A
18:45:07 HEARING TO CONSIDER THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE
18:45:09 REQUEST FOR RELIEF TO DETERMINE WHETHER CITY COUNCIL'S
18:45:13 ACTION IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 WAS UNREASONABLE OR UNFAIRLY
18:45:16 BURDENS THE PROPERTY.
18:45:18 THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
18:45:20 WAS DENIED IN FEBRUARY.
18:45:22 AND SO IS YOUR ROLE TONIGHT.
18:45:25 AS I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET OF THE HEARING, YOU ARE
18:45:30 CONSIDERING A SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL AND THUS YOUR ROLE IS
18:45:31 LEGISLATIVE.
18:45:34 THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION REQUESTED A EUCLIDIAN REZONING
18:45:38 TO RS-50 TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY
18:45:38 LOTS.
18:45:43 MR. GUZZARDO PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF DEVELOPMENT FOR
18:45:46 RS-50 ZONING STANDARDS, SUCH CONDITIONS WERE NOT
18:45:49 ENFORCEABLE THROUGH A EUCLIDIAN ZONING.
18:45:51 CONVERTING TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ADDITIONAL
18:45:55 CONDITIONS OF DEVELOPMENT ARE INCLUDED AND ENFORCEMENT
18:45:57 THROUGH THE DETAILED SITE PLAN THAT WILL BE PRESENTED
18:45:58 THIS EVENING.
18:46:03 DURING CITY COUNCIL'S HEARING IN FEBRUARY, RESIDENTS
18:46:06 DESCRIBED GRAY GABLES AS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT VARIED IN
18:46:09 LOT WIDTH AND DESIGN STYLE AND DESCRIBED THE CHALLENGE
18:46:11 OF DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE
18:46:14 NARROW STREETS AND THE AMOUNT OF ON-STREET PARKING.
18:46:17 SOME RESIDENTS EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE LOT SPLIT
18:46:20 COULD RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF IDENTICAL HOMES ON
18:46:22 SIDE-BY-SIDE LOTS.
18:46:25 IN RESPONSE TO THESE CONCERNS, THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU
18:46:29 PROPOSES THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS WITH
18:46:35 VARYING LOT WIDTHS, GARAGE AND CARPORT DETAILS AND
18:46:36 FRONT PORCH DETAILS.
18:46:40 IF THE SETTLEMENT IS APPROVED REVISIONS NOTED IN THE
18:46:42 REVISION SHEET AND THE STAFF REPORT BE ADDED TO THE
18:46:45 SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
18:46:49 IN A REGULAR REZONING OR QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING, CITY
18:46:51 COUNCIL IS LIMITED TO CONSIDERING WHETHER THE APPLICANT
18:46:54 HAS DEMONSTRATED BY SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE
18:46:57 THAT THE PROJECT MEETS THE CITY'S REGULATIONS AND IS
18:47:00 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:47:04 BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL, THERE ARE
18:47:06 OTHER FACTOR THAT'S CITY COUNCIL MUST TAKE INTO
18:47:08 CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT IF THIS IS
18:47:13 APPROVED, IT WILL RESOLVE THE PENDING FL ID RA
18:47:16 PROCEEDING AND LIMIT POTENTIAL LIABILITY FOR THE CITY.
18:47:20 PURSUANT 70.51 SECTION 21.
18:47:22 THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THREE OPTIONS THIS EVENING.
18:47:25 AFTER HEARING ALL OF THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY AND
18:47:28 AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE RELEVANT MATTERS
18:47:32 AND THE PENDING FLUEDRA PROCEEDING, THE CITY WILL
18:47:36 ACCEPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND WILL POLICE
18:47:37 DEPARTMENT THE RECOMMENDATION.
18:47:41 IN THIS CASE IMPLEMENTATION REQUIRES COUNCIL TO ADOPT A
18:47:44 MOTION APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AND PLACING
18:47:46 THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.
18:47:49 SECOND READING ON THE ORDINANCE WOULD STILL BE
18:47:49 REQUIRED.
18:47:53 ON THE OTHER HAND, CITY COUNCIL MAY REJECT THE SPECIAL
18:47:56 MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION.
18:48:00 AND THE THIRD OPTION IS TO MODIFY THE SPECIAL
18:48:02 MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDATION AND MODIFY WITH MR.
18:48:08 GUZZARDO'S ACCEPTANCE.
18:48:12 UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, WE WILL TURN THE
18:48:18 PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. SCHROTH WHO IS AVAILABLE TO
18:48:19 PARTICIPATE.
18:48:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER.
18:48:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND
18:48:24 ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR FOLKS DO.
18:48:27 WE RECEIVED -- I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE CONTENT OF
18:48:31 HER -- OF HER LETTERS, BUT WE RECEIVED VARIOUS LEVELS
18:48:38 FROM MISS ZOMEMAN AND DISCUSSING CONCERNS OF PROCEED A
18:48:42 RALE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH -- YOU KNOW,
18:48:44 WITH OUR PROCESS.
18:48:47 AND, OF COURSE, THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE
18:48:50 CITY PROCEDURE ISSUES.
18:48:53 GOOD MORNING -- GOOD EVENING.
18:48:54 >> GOOD EVENING.
18:48:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY FROM CITY ATTORNEY'S
18:49:00 PERSPECTIVE, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW HER
18:49:00 CONCERNS?
18:49:02 SHE IS A VERY BRIGHT LADY.
18:49:07 AND DO YOU CONCUR OR DISAGREE WITH HER?
18:49:12 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:49:15 MISS HARGRETT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE AND THE
18:49:16 LITIGATION PRACTICE GROUP.
18:49:20 WE HAVE PRESENTED WITH THE DOCUMENTS AND REVIEWED THEM
18:49:23 AND DO NOT HAVE ANY PROCEDURAL CONCERNS.
18:49:27 IT IS CLEAR TO THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE THE ISSUES BY
18:49:29 CONFLATE THE PROCESS THAT IS SET FORTH BEFORE YOU AS
18:49:33 STATED BY CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, THIS PROCESS
18:49:35 INVOLVES TWO PHASES.
18:49:46 AND THE FIRST PHASE IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT COLLOQUIALLY
18:49:51 THE REMEDIATION AND OF THE UNREASONABLENESS THAT FLOWS
18:49:56 OF THE ADVERSARIAL OF THE 751 PROCEEDING, BASED ON THAT
18:49:59 WE DO NOT HAVE A CONCERN OF THE PROCEDURE.
18:50:02 WE HAVE ACTUALLY COME TO AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION WHICH
18:50:05 IS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
18:50:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
18:50:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:50:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:50:11 WE HAVE THE MAGISTRATE ON THE LINE, I BELIEVE, TO
18:50:12 PRESENT.
18:50:15 SIR, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, RAISE YOUR
18:50:22 RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
18:50:27 >>CLERK: DO YOU -- DO YOU WEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL
18:50:30 THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:50:31 >> I DO.
18:50:32 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
18:50:35 AND CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS
18:50:35 ITEM.
18:50:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
18:50:40 >> MY NAME IS DEREK SCHROTH.
18:50:42 I WAS SELECTED AS THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR THIS
18:50:43 MATTER.
18:50:47 THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THE FLORIDA LAND USE
18:50:50 ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE ACT IS FOR ME TO ACT AS A
18:50:53 FACILITATOR AND IN THIS CAPACITY AS A MEDIATOR.
18:50:57 THE PETITION IN THIS MATTER FILED ON MARCH 9.
18:51:00 BECAUSE OF COVID, WE EXTENDED THE STATUTORY DEADLINES
18:51:03 AND WE HELD A MEDIATION ON JULY 24.
18:51:06 THE PUBLIC WAS INVITED AND PARTICIPATED IN THAT
18:51:10 MEDIATION, IN PERSON AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
18:51:14 WE REMEDIATED THAT CASE FOR OVER FOUR HOURS.
18:51:18 WE MADE CONSIDERABLE PROGRESS, THE PARTIES DID, TO TRY
18:51:19 TO SETTLE THIS CASE.
18:51:22 OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS,
18:51:26 CONTINUED TO RESOLVE THE MATTER IN AN EFFORT TO REACH A
18:51:28 TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT.
18:51:32 THAT SETTLEMENT WAS ACHIEVED ON SEPTEMBER 22, THE
18:51:35 RECOMMENDED SETTLEMENT UNDER THE STATUTE.
18:51:39 THE PARTIES WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE MEDIATION ARE THERE
18:51:41 IN THE CAPACITY TO RECOMMEND TO YOU THE FINAL
18:51:44 DECISION-MAKER, WHETHER OR NOT THE SETTLEMENT SHOULD BE
18:51:46 APPROVED.
18:51:48 I THINK THE SETTLEMENT SHOULD BE APPROVED.
18:51:52 THE PARTIES DID GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND DID WORK
18:51:56 TOWARD AN ACCEPTABLE PD THAT ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE
18:51:59 CONCERNS INITIALLY IN THE FIRST DENIAL.
18:52:03 AFTER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT,
18:52:06 WE INVITED THOSE INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO
18:52:10 PARTICIPATE IN A ZOOM MEETING TO ADDRESS THE TERMS OF
18:52:14 THE SETTLEMENT, ASK ANY QUESTIONS AND RAISE ISSUE
18:52:17 THAT'S THEY HAD WITH IT DESPITE THOSE CONCERNS.
18:52:21 THE PARTIES DECIDED TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THE
18:52:24 PROPOSED SETTLEMENT AND IT IS HERE BEFORE YOU THIS
18:52:25 EVENING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
18:52:27 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
18:52:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:52:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION?
18:52:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
18:52:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SCHROTH?
18:52:39 MR. SCHROTH, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
18:52:41 >> YES, SIR.
18:52:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST -- HELP ME THROUGH THIS
18:52:45 PROCESS.
18:52:50 WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU GET THIS MEDIATION -- AND I WAS --
18:52:54 I USED TO BE CERTIFIED AS A MEDIATOR BUT THIS IS A
18:52:56 SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ARENA.
18:53:01 BUT WHEN YOU GET THIS MEDIATION IN FRONT OF YOU, DO YOU
18:53:05 HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE -- THE VIDEOTAPE, THE
18:53:09 AUDIOTAPE AND OR THE TRANSCRIPT OF OUR INITIAL REZONING
18:53:12 HEARING AND THE DENIAL?
18:53:17 OR DO YOU JUST GET THE LETTERS FROM THE VARIOUS PARTIES
18:53:23 IN TERMS OF -- INFORMING YOU ON WHAT HAPPENED?
18:53:24 >> I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT WAS
18:53:27 IN THE RECORD BELOW, THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING, THE
18:53:31 AUDIO, AND IN THIS CASE, I DID NOT REVIEW THE AUDIO,
18:53:33 BUT THAT OPPORTUNITY DID EXIST.
18:53:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOU HAD THE MINUTES AND WERE
18:53:39 ABLE TO READ THE TRANSCRIPTS AND THAT SORT OF THING?
18:53:39 >> YES, SIR.
18:53:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:53:43 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:53:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:53:45 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
18:53:50 NO?
18:53:51 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
18:53:54 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ASK SOMEONE FROM LEGAL OR
18:53:58 COULD BE MR. SCHROTH, COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO THE
18:54:00 PUBLIC WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN -- I KNOW YOU
18:54:01 ALREADY SAID IT.
18:54:04 BUT THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND
18:54:05 WHAT A PD IS.
18:54:09 WHAT ARE THE EXTRA PROTECTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC THAT ARE
18:54:12 IN A PD?
18:54:14 >> IF I MAY, THE STAFF STILL HAS TO MAKE ITS
18:54:15 PRESENTATION AND YOU CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AS
18:54:18 WELL, SO I DON'T WANT TO STEAL THEIR THUNDER.
18:54:19 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
18:54:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STAFF, GO AHEAD.
18:54:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, DEVELOPMENT AND
18:54:38 GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
18:54:41 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT
18:54:49 111 SOUTH FROM RS-60 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR
18:54:52 TWO DETACHED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
18:54:55 TWO PLOTTED LOTS.
18:54:58 91 AND 92.
18:55:03 LOTS 19 AND 92 EACH MEASURE APPROXIMATELY 54 FEET BY
18:55:09 135 FEET FOR AN AREA OF 7290 SQUARE FEET.
18:55:12 PLUS HALF OF THE VACATED ALLEYWAY IN THE REAR WHICH IS
18:55:17 FOUR FEET IN WIDTH FOR A TOTAL SITE AREA OF
18:55:20 APPROXIMATELY 7722 SQUARE FEET.
18:55:23 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY DETACHED SINGLE
18:55:26 FAMILY RESIDENCE CONSTRUCTED IN 1948.
18:55:30 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED TWO LOTS TO THE SOUTH GUNLOCK
18:55:32 AVENUE WEST GRAY COURT INTERSECTION.
18:55:36 IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIALS TO THE
18:55:39 NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST IN THE RS-60 ZONING
18:55:40 DISTRICT.
18:55:44 THE PROPOSED NORTHERN LOT HAS A WIDTH OF 50 FEET AND AN
18:55:46 AREA OF 6950 SQUARE FEET.
18:55:50 AND THE SOUTHERN LOT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ELMO IS 58
18:55:57 FEET IN WIDTH WITH AN AREA OF 8062 SQUARE FEET.
18:56:01 THE SETBACKS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ARE FRONT
18:56:05 25, SIDES 7 AND REAR 20 WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35
18:56:06 FEET.
18:56:09 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED WITHIN THIS
18:56:11 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
18:56:13 THERE ARE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS THROUGH THE
18:56:16 DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, AS WELL
18:56:18 AS NATURAL RESOURCES.
18:56:20 IF THIS IS APPROVED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
18:56:23 AND OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF
18:56:26 DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
18:56:27 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
18:56:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
18:56:31 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:56:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARY?
18:56:39 I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT PETITION, BUT IT RELATES TO
18:56:40 THE ORIGINAL PETITION.
18:56:43 I DON'T HAVE THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE ORIGINAL
18:56:47 PETITION, BUT IF YOU CAN REFRESH MY MEMORY, IF YOU
18:56:51 RECALL OR IF YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT THE
18:56:56 STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS AT THE ORIGINAL -- AT THE
18:56:59 ORIGINAL HEARING WHICH I THINK WAS JUST GOING FROM AN
18:57:03 RS-60 TO A RS-50 ON THE LOT SPLIT.
18:57:05 AND NOW, OF COURSE, IT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
18:57:09 IT IS STILL GOING TO TWO LOTS, BUT IT IS A PD.
18:57:14 SO JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY, YOU KNOW, WHAT STAFF'S
18:57:18 OPINION WAS IN THAT FIRST GO AROUND.
18:57:21 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: WITH THE FIRST APPLICATION, IT WAS A
18:57:26 EUCLIDIAN FROM RS-60 TO RS-50 AND THE DEVELOPMENT
18:57:28 COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND IT CONSISTENT.
18:57:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONSISTENT?
18:57:31 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
18:57:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU YOUR COLORED MAPS AND ALL
18:57:35 THAT TO COME UP TO THAT CONCLUSION?
18:57:36 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
18:57:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
18:57:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:57:41 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
18:57:41 NO?
18:57:48 I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT.
18:57:50 >> CHAIRMAN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO MAKE THE
18:57:54 PRESENTATION, CHAIRMAN.
18:57:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JENNIFER MALONE.
18:57:57 >> THAT'S FINE.
18:58:00 I HOPE EVERYONE CAN SEE MY SCREEN FOR 2001.
18:58:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE RAISE HER VOLUME?
18:58:04 WE CAN BARELY HEAR HER.
18:58:06 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER NOW?
18:58:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
18:58:13 >> ALONG SOUTH GUNLOCK ROAD.
18:58:16 THE SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 10 AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAS
18:58:19 REVIEW AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF
18:58:21 THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
18:58:25 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR REPORT.
18:58:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
18:58:28 ALL RIGHT.
18:58:29 NOW, MR. KRAMER.
18:58:30 GO AHEAD.
18:58:33 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
18:58:35 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
18:58:36 I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN YET.
18:58:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
18:58:42 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE
18:58:44 WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
18:58:45 >> I DO.
18:58:48 JAKE KRAMER WITH STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER.
18:58:50 401 EAST JACKSON STREET FOR THE RECORD.
18:58:53 A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
18:58:57 I DID HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I SUBMITTED IN ADVANCE.
18:59:00 ARE WE ABLE TO PULL THAT UP?
18:59:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE HAVE IT HERE.
18:59:03 >> THANK YOU.
18:59:06 AND WHEN I NEED TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE DO I NEED TO ASK?
18:59:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAY NEXT SLIDE.
18:59:11 >> I REALIZE A LITTLE BIT OLD SCHOOL, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT
18:59:12 I DO HAVE PHYSICAL BINDERS.
18:59:15 IT'S -- I AM A LITTLE OLD SCHOOL.
18:59:17 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THOSE TO YOU ALL IF IT IS
18:59:19 POSSIBLE.
18:59:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO.
18:59:22 GO AHEAD.
18:59:25 OUR CITY ATTORNEY USED TO HAVE STUFF LIKE THAT BACK IN
18:59:26 THE STAY, IF YOU REMEMBER.
18:59:30 BIG BOOKS.
18:59:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE QUESTION IS, HAVE THEY BEEN
18:59:37 DISINFECTED?
18:59:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU SPRAY THEM DOWN?
18:59:51 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN CONFIRM THAT I PERSONALLY
18:59:54 DISINFECTED THEM BEFORE I BROUGHT THEM TODAY.
18:59:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:00:00 COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
19:00:03 I WILL GET STARTED BY TELLING -- JUST TELLING YOU, THIS
19:00:06 IS THE HARDEST I THINK I WORKED IN MY PROFESSIONAL
19:00:09 CAREER ON A LOT SPLIT.
19:00:12 AND I -- I HAVE MY CLIENT TO THANK FOR THAT MR.
19:00:16 GUZZARDO HAS REALLY WORKED HARD TO WORK WITH COUNCIL,
19:00:21 WORK WITH STAFF, AND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
19:00:26 THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AS YOU HEARD, IT WAS
19:00:27 DENIED PREVIOUSLY.
19:00:29 THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED HARD.
19:00:33 THERE WAS A VERY CLOSE VOTE DURING THE LAST HEARING.
19:00:37 THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY THAT REALLY AS A CITY WE SHOULD
19:00:40 WANT THIS PROCESS TO WORK.
19:00:44 NOT NECESSARILY THE DENIAL, BUT THE -- ALL OF THE
19:00:47 EVENTS AFTER THAT.
19:00:50 I AM SURE WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY
19:00:51 TONIGHT.
19:00:55 BUT -- BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE ARE MUCH, MUCH CLOSER
19:01:00 THAN WHEN MR. GUZZARDO WAS HERE BEFORE YOU IN FEBRUARY.
19:01:02 WE GOT TO DO THAT THROUGH THE -- WHAT I CALL THE
19:01:06 FLUEDRA PROCESS.
19:01:09 WE WORK HARD WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE CITY
19:01:11 STAFF TO EVALUATE OPTIONS.
19:01:12 WE HAVE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
19:01:17 WILL SCHROTH WHO IS AN EXPERT IN BOTH PROCESSING LAND
19:01:19 USE APPLICATIONS AND LAND USE LITIGATION.
19:01:22 MR. SCHROTH ALSO DOES WORK FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT
19:01:25 COMMUNITY AS WELL AS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
19:01:28 SO HE DOES BRING A VERY INTERESTING AND I BELIEVE
19:01:32 IMPARTIAL VIEW WORKING WITH US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
19:01:37 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
19:01:41 AND GENERAL LOCATION AS YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM
19:01:42 PREVIOUSLY.
19:01:46 WE ARE -- JUST SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE GRAY
19:01:47 GABLES NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:01:48 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
19:01:51 I LIFE HALF MILE FROM THIS SITE WITHIN WALKING
19:01:52 DISTANCE.
19:01:56 THE SPECIFIC LOCATION SOUTH OF KENNEDY ON GUNLOCK NEAR
19:01:58 THE CENTER OF GRAY GABLES.
19:02:03 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
19:02:08 GRAY GABLES AS PLATTED HAVE ROUGHLY 100 RESIDENTIAL
19:02:16 ZONING LOTS AND EXCLUDES LOTS THAT ARE SOMETIMES CALLED
19:02:21 GRAY GABLES BUT NOT BEEN THE GRAY GABLES PLAT.
19:02:28 WE ARE TALK OF GRAY GABLES AS PLATTED TONIGHT.
19:02:29 THE SHAPES.
19:02:34 RECTANGULAR AND TRAPEZOIDAL SHAPES THAT I CAN'T
19:02:39 REMEMBER FROM GEOMETRY WHAT THEY WERE CALLED AND
19:02:42 DIFFERENT LOT SIZES SOME PIE SHAPED.
19:02:48 AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A PD FOR ONE 50-FOOT LOT
19:02:53 AND ONE 58-FOOT LOT WITH STRICT CONDITIONS AS WE
19:02:59 DISCUSS.
19:03:04 APOLOGIES.
19:03:07 I HAD TROUBLE READING THE SLIDES.
19:03:11 AS OPPOSED TO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL IN FEBRUARY TO
19:03:16 RE-ESTABLISH THE ORIGINAL PLATTED LOT CONFIGURATION.
19:03:21 ONE 50-FOOT LOT, ONE 58-FOOT LOT.
19:03:23 I WILL EXPLAIN WHY WE TOOK THAT APPROACH.
19:03:27 THE ORIGINAL GUNLOCK ORIGINAL LOTS 54 FEET AND ON THE
19:03:29 EAST SIDE 50 FEET.
19:03:32 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
19:03:42 DURING THE FLUEDRA PROCESS WE HAVE OUR EXPERT ABBYE
19:03:47 FEELEY OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT PERFORM -- OR DEVELOPED AN
19:03:49 EXPERT REPORT.
19:03:53 MISS FEELEY WALKED THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:03:55 ALL OF THOSE 100 RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT I MENTIONED.
19:03:57 SHE WALKED THEM ALL.
19:03:58 IT WAS SUMMER.
19:03:59 IT WAS PRETTY HOT.
19:04:01 SHE DID A GREAT JOB.
19:04:06 AND SHE DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF CHARTS AND REPORT THAT IS
19:04:10 -- I WOULD SAY THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW EVER DONE
19:04:15 OF WHAT'S IN THE GRAY GABLES NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:04:20 MISS FEELEY WAS LOOKING AT THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT WE
19:04:22 HAD HEARD UP TO THAT POINT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
19:04:22 COUNCIL.
19:04:25 SOME OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WE HAD HEARD WERE CHARACTER
19:04:27 AND COMPATIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:04:28 WE HEARD PARKING CONCERNS.
19:04:32 AND WE HEARD CONCERNS OF REPETITIVE LOT AND HOUSING
19:04:34 TYPES.
19:04:38 SO HER REPORT ADDRESSED EACH OF THOSE IN TURN.
19:04:45 THE CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY ISSUE SHE ADDRESSED BY
19:04:50 REVIEWING -- AND THIS ACTUALLY THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION
19:04:52 HERE ON THE SLIDE.
19:04:54 THE GRAY GABLES NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXPERIENCING A NATURAL
19:05:03 AND INORGANIC WITH OLDER STOCK REPLACING NEWER STOCK.
19:05:07 AND SHE SAID BOTH OF REZONED ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE
19:05:09 CHARACTER OF THE GRAY GABLES NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:05:13 THE REASON WHY WAS SHE CHARACTERIZED IT AS AN ECLECTIC
19:05:14 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:05:20 THERE IS REALLY A PRETTY AMAZING -- AN AMAZINGLY WIDE
19:05:22 VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:05:25 NO PREDOMINANT LOT SIZE PATTERNS.
19:05:27 NO PREDOMINANT PORCH TYPE.
19:05:32 NO PREDOMINANCE OF ONE OR TWO-STORY STRUCTURES AND NO
19:05:36 PREDOMINANT YEAR OR GENERATION, FULL, OF CONSTRUCTION.
19:05:41 THE HOMES WERE CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN 1924 AND 2020.
19:05:45 THERE HAVE BEEN 28 NEW HOMES SINCE 1985.
19:05:51 SO END, THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IT IS
19:05:56 ECLECTIC AND VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, FORMS, FASHIONS.
19:05:59 THE PARKING CONCERN THAT MISS FEELEY ADDRESSED BY
19:06:03 STUDYING GARAGE TYPES AND DRIVEWAY TYPES.
19:06:06 WE HAVE AMAZING VARIETY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:06:09 WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF ATTACHED GARAGES, FLUSHED,
19:06:11 RECESSED, SNOUT.
19:06:13 WE HAVE DETACHED GARAGES.
19:06:14 WE HAVE OPEN CARPORTS.
19:06:16 HOUSES WITH NO GARAGE.
19:06:20 SO, AGAIN, ECLECTIC -- THE ECLECTIC NATURE OF THE
19:06:21 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:06:23 ONE OF HER CONCLUSIONS IN THE REPORT IS THAT THE
19:06:26 PARKING ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED BY COUNCIL
19:06:29 ORIGINALLY LIKELY RESULTED FROM A LARGE NUMBER OF
19:06:33 DETACHED GARAGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MOST OF WHICH
19:06:36 HAVE SINGLE CAR DRIVEWAYS.
19:06:39 HAVING LIVED IN ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE PAST,
19:06:44 I CAN TELL YOU IT ADDS AESTHETIC APPEAL, BUT WHAT
19:06:46 HAPPENS IS PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO MOVE THEIR CARS TO LET
19:06:47 PEOPLE OUT.
19:06:49 SO THEY PARK IN THE STREET.
19:06:50 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
19:06:53 AND THE THIRD CONCERN AGAIN THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS THE
19:06:56 REPETITIVE LOT AND HOUSING TYPES.
19:06:57 THIS WAS A BIG CONCERN.
19:07:03 AND THIS GRAPHIC WAS DEVELOPED BY MISS FEELEY IN HER
19:07:04 REPORT TO CONSIDER THE CONCERN.
19:07:09 AGAIN, SHE FOUND NO PREDOMINANT LOT SIZE PATTERN.
19:07:12 A LARGE VARIETY OF WIDTH.
19:07:16 LOTS LESS THAN 60 FEET WERE NOT OUT OF CHARACTER IN
19:07:16 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:07:17 NOT SHOWN HERE.
19:07:19 LET ME GO THROUGH THE COLORS FIRST.
19:07:25 THE RED LOTS HAVE 60 FOOT OR GREATER OF FRONTAGE.
19:07:28 THE BLUE LOTS ARE UNDER 60 FEET.
19:07:33 THE GREEN OUTLINED PROPERTIES SHOW ADMINISTRATIVE
19:07:37 SPLITS UNDER A FORMER RULE THAT THE CITY HAD ALLOWING
19:07:40 CERTAIN TYPES OF PROPERTIES TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY
19:07:41 SPLIT.
19:07:44 THOSE ARE CALLED -- THAT IS CALLED 80% RULE.
19:07:48 THE PURPLE OUTLINE UP IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER SHOWS
19:07:52 ADMINISTRATIVE -- ADMINISTRATIVE SPLIT OF LOTS THROUGH
19:07:56 A 2014 FORMAL DETERMINATION AND YELLOW OUTLINE ON THE
19:07:59 EASTERN BOUNDARY SHOW A 2006 PD.
19:08:03 NOT SHOWN HERE ARE FOUR LOTS THAT SHE ALSO DESCRIBED IN
19:08:08 HER REPORT THAT COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY SPLIT
19:08:11 TOMORROW IF THE OWNERS SO CHOSE.
19:08:15 SO OVER TIME, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS -- MISS FEELEY
19:08:19 CONCLUDED THAT THE CITY ALLOWED GRAY GABLES INTO
19:08:23 SMALLER LOTS AND REALLY, IN FACT, TRANSITIONING BACK TO
19:08:27 A SIMILAR PATTERN AS THE UNDERLYING PLAT AS THIS
19:08:28 NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ESTABLISHED.
19:08:31 AND IN THE VICINITY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN GREEN IN
19:08:36 PARTICULAR, IT ESSENTIALLY SITS WITHIN AN ISLAND OF
19:08:38 LOTS LESS THAN 60 FEET.
19:08:42 REMAIN ONE OF THE FEW LOTS IN GRAY GABLES.
19:08:44 THE HORSE IS ALREADY OUT OF THE STABLE, FULL.
19:08:46 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
19:08:50 BEFORE WE GET TO THE PROPOSED PD DESIGN, JUST WANT TO
19:08:53 REMIND YOU OF THE LOT CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE ARE
19:08:54 TALKING ABOUT HERE.
19:08:58 REMEMBER THESE LOTS ARE -- RS-60 GENERALLY IN THIS
19:09:02 NEIGHBORHOOD AND ORIGINALLY MR. GUZZARDO ASKED FOR
19:09:04 RS-50 WITH NO CONDITIONS.
19:09:07 AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM, WE ARE RIGHT WITHIN THE
19:09:14 RANGE OF WIDTH BETWEEN RS-50 AND RS-60 AND LOT SIZES --
19:09:16 THE SIZE OF THE LOT IS MUCH LARGER THAN THE MINIMUMS IN
19:09:20 RS-50 AND RS-60.
19:09:21 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
19:09:24 SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
19:09:28 YOU RECALL MR. GUZZARDO CAME TO YOU WITH NO CONDITIONS
19:09:28 LAST TIME.
19:09:31 NOW WE HAVE A PD WITH A SITE PLAN AND WRITTEN
19:09:34 CONDITIONS TO GIVE TO EVERYONE A GREAT DEAL OF COMFORT
19:09:39 OF EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET NEXT SLIDE,
19:09:40 PLEASE.
19:09:44 THESE ARE THE CONTINUES THAT WERE PART OF OUR
19:09:45 SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL.
19:09:49 AND THEY WERE DEVELOPED BY MISS FEELEY TO ADDRESS THOSE
19:09:53 THREE MAIN CONCERNS THAT, AGAIN, WE HEARD THROUGH
19:09:56 COUNCIL AND HEARD THROUGH THE PROCESS.
19:09:59 IN -- THESE CONDITIONS ARE ALSO ON THE SITE PLAN AS
19:10:00 WELL.
19:10:03 AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A SCENARIO
19:10:09 WHERE WE HAVE ONE 50-FOOT LOT.
19:10:11 ONE 58-FOOT LOT.
19:10:15 THE TWO LOTS HAVE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS ON PORCHES.
19:10:20 DIFFERING CONDITIONS ON GARAGE TYPE.
19:10:24 AND THEY ARE FOCUSED ON -- I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT --
19:10:29 THAT DESPITE THE DIFFERENCE IN GARAGE TYPE A PARKING
19:10:38 PAD REQUIREMENT, AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THE
19:10:42 CARS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CONCERNED ABOUT AND WE
19:10:44 ARE GETTING THEM OFF OF THE STREET.
19:10:48 THE COMPATIBILITY CONCERN AND THE REPETITIVE HOUSING
19:10:50 TYPE WE BELIEVE IT ADDRESSES THOSE AND GIVE THOSE
19:10:51 ASSURANCES.
19:10:54 AND, AGAIN, I JUST EXPLAINED HOW WE ADDRESSED THE
19:10:55 PARKING CONCERN.
19:10:57 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
19:11:01 YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF HAS REVIEWED BOTH FEELEY'S
19:11:06 EXPERT REPORT AND PROPOSED PD AND FOUND CONSISTENT WITH
19:11:08 THE COMP PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
19:11:12 THEY FOUND IS CONSISTENT LAST TIME, AND I GUESS THEY
19:11:15 FOUND IT EVEN MORE CONSISTENT.
19:11:17 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
19:11:19 SO, AGAIN, BACK TO WHERE I BEGAN.
19:11:25 THE FLUEDRA PROCESS REALLY WORKED HERE.
19:11:27 LEGISLATURE SET UP THE PROCESS.
19:11:32 PERSONALLY RESOLVED 20 CASES THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND
19:11:33 IT REALLY WORKS.
19:11:36 MEDIATION, WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO LEAVE A LITTLE BIT
19:11:38 UNHAPPY AND I THINK THAT WAS THE CASE.
19:11:41 I THINK WE HAVE A PROJECT HERE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH
19:11:44 -- WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:11:49 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
19:11:52 AND ABLE TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
19:11:55 THIS -- I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE LENGTH THAT MR.
19:11:59 GUZZARDO WENT THROUGH TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
19:12:02 IN THIS SLIDE, HE HAD THE SUPPORT OF OVER 20 PROPERTY
19:12:05 OWNERS AT THE ORIGINAL HEARING, AND WITH HIS HARD WORK
19:12:09 ON THE PD PROPOSAL, HE IS ABLE TO GAIN SEVEN NEW
19:12:16 SUPPORTERS INCLUDING THE PROPERTY OWNER DIRECTLY TO THE
19:12:16 SOUTH.
19:12:19 SO, AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING.
19:12:22 WE WORKED HARD AND BROUGHT ON MORE MEMBERS OF THE
19:12:24 COMMUNITY AND BROUGHT IN MORE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
19:12:27 AND I THINK YOU WILL HEAR FROM SUPPORTERS TONIGHT.
19:12:33 SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING MR. GUZZARDO AT THE
19:12:35 MOMENT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND AFTER THAT SAVE ANY
19:12:36 TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
19:12:39 THANK YOU.
19:12:40 >> GOOD EVENING.
19:12:46 I AM JAY GUZZARDO, 210 SOUTH GUNLOCK AVENUE, WHICH IS
19:12:54 DIRECTLY AND WORKED ON THE PROJECT FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND
19:12:57 THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN THE
19:13:02 ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS -- WAS IN LINE WITH THE
19:13:02 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:13:06 I TOOK THE COMMENTS PROVIDED BY COUNCIL AND WENT BACK
19:13:09 TO THE DRAWING BOARD OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
19:13:15 I WORKED ON A SITE PLAN THAT ADDRESSED ALL THESE
19:13:16 CONCERNS BROUGHT UP.
19:13:20 I WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS OF APPROVING THE PLAN AS A
19:13:20 WHOLE.
19:13:23 WITH THAT THE PLAN BEFORE YOU HAS CITY STAFF REPORT AND
19:13:28 AS JAKE MENTIONED ABLE TO SECURE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
19:13:28 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:13:32 THE REQUEST IS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE
19:13:37 HOUSE-TO-HOUSE ANALYSIS PROVIDED TO YOU GUYS.
19:13:40 IT IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN READ
19:13:42 THROUGH THAT.
19:13:45 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERING.
19:13:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:13:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:13:50 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
19:13:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:13:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JAKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OR YOUR
19:13:56 CLIENT WANT TO ANSWER THIS.
19:14:00 BUT YOU HAVE THE ONE PAGE UP THAT IS A SIDE BY SIDE OF
19:14:03 THE CONDITIONS, PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF THE PD.
19:14:08 AND THE SOUTH PROPERTY -- THE SOUTH HOUSE BEING
19:14:12 PROPOSED SPEAKS TO SOME SORT OF STRANGE OPTION OF NO
19:14:15 GARAGE OR MAYBE A GARAGE.
19:14:17 I FIND THAT A LITTLE WEIRD.
19:14:24 AND PART OF PART OF THE REASON I FIND IT A LITTLE WEIRD
19:14:27 BECAUSE PARKING WAS A BIG ISSUE SO WHY WOULDN'T BOTH
19:14:28 HOMES FROM A GARAGE?
19:14:29 >> SURE.
19:14:32 I WOULD LIKE TO LET JP ADDRESS THAT.
19:14:35 I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE
19:14:36 WERE LOOKING AT.
19:14:43 ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS -- WAS, AGAIN, THE ECLECTICISM OF
19:14:46 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:14:51 BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DID HEAR AT ONE POINT COMMENTS
19:14:53 FROM SOMEONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT WOULD BE NICE
19:14:55 TO HAVE A HOUSE WITHOUT A GARAGE.
19:15:00 IT SEEMED A LITTLE UNUSUAL TO ME, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO
19:15:05 SET UP A SCENARIO WHERE EVERYBODY IS GUARANTEED THE TWO
19:15:09 HOUSES NEXT TO EACH OTHER WILL NOT LOOK THE SAME IN ANY
19:15:09 WAY.
19:15:11 CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
19:15:14 >> MR. DINGFELDER, THAT WAS TO PROVIDE VARIETY.
19:15:16 HOUSES IN THIS AREA THAT HAVE PARKING PADS IN FRONT OF
19:15:20 THEIR FRONT DOOR PORCHES PEOPLE PARK INDEPENDENT OF A
19:15:23 GARAGE AND PEOPLE ENJOY IT AND LIKE IT.
19:15:26 IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT TECHNICALLY I WOULD PREFER,
19:15:29 BUT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD A WANT IT, SO WE WANTED
19:15:32 TO PROVIDE THAT FLEXIBILITY IN THAT LOT 58-FEET WIDE.
19:15:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT
19:15:36 EVERYBODY NEEDS A GARAGE.
19:15:39 I HAVEN'T HAD A GARAGE FOREVER, 25 YEARS.
19:15:43 I JUST THOUGHT WITH REGARDS TO THAT CONDITION OF THE
19:15:44 OPTION.
19:15:47 >> WELL, THE GARAGE ON THE SOUTH SIDE REALLY HAS THREE
19:15:48 SPECIFIC COMPONENTS.
19:15:50 A RECESSED GARAGE.
19:15:53 SO THE FRONT FACE OF THE GARAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE PUSHED
19:15:55 BACK SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE
19:15:56 HOUSE.
19:15:57 THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION.
19:16:00 THE OTHER OPTION IS A DETACHED OPTION WHICH HAS BEEN
19:16:04 PRESENTED AND AGREED TO WITH CITY STAFF BECAUSE SOME OF
19:16:06 THE NEIGHBORS LIKED THAT COMPONENT AS WELL.
19:16:10 AND THE OTHER WAS NO GARAGE PARKING PADS IN FRONT OF A
19:16:12 HOME WITH BASICALLY A FULL PORCH.
19:16:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE PARKING PAD IS ADEQUATE NOT TO
19:16:17 CROSS THE SIDEWALK?
19:16:19 >> SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.
19:16:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE PARKING PADS ARE ADEQUATE THAT
19:16:24 THE CARS ARE NOT PARKED ACROSS THE SIDEWALK?
19:16:25 >> THEY ARE, SIR.
19:16:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
19:16:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DON'T GO AWAY.
19:16:34 WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT PARKING.
19:16:45 IS THE PARKING A PROBLEM CREATED BY THE RESIDENTS.
19:16:48 AND THOSE BUSINESSES ARE PARKING IN FRONT OF -- IN
19:16:51 THESE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
19:16:52 IN YOUR OPINION?
19:16:56 >> IN MY OPINION, THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES THAT PEOPLE
19:16:58 ARE PARK INCOME THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND USING OTHER
19:16:58 BUSINESSES.
19:17:02 WHAT DOES HAPPEN FROM A PARKING PERSPECTIVE.
19:17:04 SOME PEOPLE HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES ACTUALLY IN THEIR
19:17:06 HOME THAT THEY OPERATE LEGALLY.
19:17:08 THEY WILL HAVE SOMEONE PARK ON THE STREET AND COME INTO
19:17:09 THEIR HOME.
19:17:11 WHAT YOU ALSO HAVE IS ON THE WEEKENDS.
19:17:13 A VERY CLOSED-IN NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:17:16 SO YOU WILL HAVE FOLKS ACTUALLY PULL THEIR CARS OUT
19:17:20 ONTO THE STREET TO BLOCK TRAFFIC SPEEDING THROUGH,
19:17:20 FULL.
19:17:24 WHICH HAPPENS VERY RARELY, SO KIDS CAN PLAY IN THE
19:17:25 STREET.
19:17:28 SO SOMETIMES THERE IS CARS PARKED ON THE STREET
19:17:31 PURPOSEFULLY TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
19:17:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:17:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
19:17:38 FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
19:17:43 >> JAKE, CAN I REPEAT THE SAME QUESTION ASKED EARLIER.
19:17:45 YOU SAID IN YOUR COMMENTS BUT STATE FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT
19:17:48 THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE PD AND WHAT -- WHAT THE
19:17:52 DEVELOPER GIVES UP BY MAYBE -- FUTURE OWNERS GIVE UP
19:17:55 GIVING A PD AND WHAT IS PROPOSED BEFORE?
19:17:59 >> SURE, COUNCILMAN, THE BIG CHANGE IS THAT INITIALLY
19:18:06 WE WERE THERE -- MR. GUZZARDO WAS HERE WITH A EUCLIDIAN
19:18:08 ZONING AND ANYTHING THAT FITS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES
19:18:12 THAT ARE ALLOWED BY RS-50, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
19:18:16 BUILD THAT, WE ARE NOW HERE WITH THE PLANNED
19:18:18 DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED
19:18:21 ON THIS PROPERTY ARE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
19:18:24 AND THEN FURTHER DEFINED BY THE CONDITIONS.
19:18:28 YOU ALSO PROBABLY SAW AS PART OF TD PLAN, THERE ARE
19:18:35 ELEVATIONS ATTACHED TO THOSE FOR MASSIVE SCALE
19:18:36 PURPOSES.
19:18:39 THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY
19:18:42 ARE GOING TO GET AND WE ARE NOW MANDATED BY THE PD TO
19:18:45 MAKE SURE THE HOUSES NEXT TO EACH OTHER FIT THE
19:18:46 CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY ADDING TO THAT
19:18:49 ECLECTICISM.
19:18:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
19:18:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
19:18:55 I AM GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
19:18:58 ARE HERE IN THE ROOM FIRST AND THEN GO TO THE ONES THAT
19:19:00 ARE LOGGED IN VIRTUALLY.
19:19:05 IF YOU WERE TO SPEAK, PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN ON
19:19:05 THIS ITEM.
19:19:08 IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN AND YOU ARE GOING TO
19:19:11 SPEAK ON ANYTHING THIS EVENING, MIGHT AS WELL GET IT
19:19:12 OUT OF THE WAY.
19:19:15 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU ALL IN AT
19:19:17 ONCE AND WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
19:19:19 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU TELL THE
19:19:23 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
19:19:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, WHOMEVER WOULD LIKE TO
19:19:29 BEGIN, PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
19:19:30 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
19:19:30 >> RANDY HILL.
19:19:34 I LIVE AT 104 SOUTH GLEN AVENUE, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK
19:19:36 FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
19:19:41 AND I AM SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
19:19:45 I BELIEVE THAT MR. GUZZARDO HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF
19:19:47 THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MIND.
19:19:51 AND HE WAS ATTENDANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN OTHER
19:19:54 PEOPLE MAY BE, SO, THEREFORE, I SUPPORT THE PLAN.
19:19:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:19:58 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:20:02 SIR?
19:20:03 [INAUDIBLE]
19:20:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU -- YOU ARE FREE TO SPEAK THREE
19:20:07 MINUTES.
19:20:09 STATE YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU BEGIN.
19:20:13 AND THE.
19:20:14 >> MY NAME IS JAMIE ELLIS.
19:20:19 I RESIDE 214 SOUTH GUNLOCK AVENUE.
19:20:21 MOVED INTO MY HOUSE IN 1988.
19:20:23 I AM OKAY.
19:20:29 MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED THERE 40 YEARS BEFORE ME.
19:20:31 WHAT I WANT TO SAY -- I AM GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
19:20:34 GRAY GABLES IN GENERAL BECAUSE I LIVED THERE A LONG
19:20:35 TIME.
19:20:39 BUT MY OPPOSITION IS NOT WITH THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE.
19:20:40 I AM SURE THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL.
19:20:44 MY OPPOSITION IS STRICTLY THE NUMBER OF THE HOUSES.
19:20:48 SO WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT IS HOW SPECIAL GRAY
19:20:51 GABLES IS AS IT ALREADY IS, THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE
19:20:53 THROUGH THE ROOF.
19:21:00 THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS -- NO HARDSHIPS PER SE THAT
19:21:03 WOULD BE CAUSED BY HAVING ONE HOUSE ON THIS LOT OPPOSED
19:21:03 TO TWO.
19:21:07 I BROUGHT A SMALL ARTICLE FROM THE TAMPA TRIBUNE ON
19:21:09 GRAY GABLES A FEW YEARS BACK.
19:21:11 SOME OF US REMEMBER THE TAMPA TRIBUNE.
19:21:16 I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS PERMITTABLE TO PASS THIS AROUND
19:21:17 WITH TODAY'S WORLD.
19:21:22 ANYWAY, TAMPA TRIBUNE TOUCHED ON THE UNIQUENESS AND
19:21:26 CHARM OF GRAY GABLES ABOUT 15 OR SO YEARS AGO.
19:21:31 SO ONE OF THINGS THAT I FOUND MOST AMAZING ABOUT GRAY
19:21:34 GABLES IS, WE HAD PEOPLE WHO HAD LITERALLY MOVED INTO
19:21:37 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM ONE OR TWO BLOCKS AWAY.
19:21:40 NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO IMPROVE A SCHOOL DISTRICT,
19:21:43 NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GET CLOSER TO WORK OR MOVE
19:21:46 INTO A GATED COMMUNITY, THEY DID IT BECAUSE THEY LIVED
19:21:50 CLOSE ENOUGH TO SEE THE UNIQUENESS OF GRAY GABLES AND
19:21:53 FELT COMFORTABLE MOVING THERE SEEING IS IT A BETTER
19:21:57 NEIGHBORHOOD THAN THEY ARE ALREADY IN EVEN THOUGH THEY
19:21:57 WERE BLOCKS AWAY.
19:22:01 THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO USE OUR CIRCLE TO EXERCISE,
19:22:05 WALK DOGS, RIDE BIKES, TEACH KIDS TO RIDE BIKES IS
19:22:09 PRETTY AMAZING.
19:22:13 EVEN COMING FROM BLOCKS AWAY FROM GRAY GABLES TO WALK
19:22:15 THEIR DOGS AND EXERCISE AND SO FORTH.
19:22:18 AGAIN, THEY PERCEIVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD APPARENTLY AS
19:22:21 BEING SAFER AS THEIR OWN.
19:22:23 HALLOWEEN IN GRAY GABLES IS INCREDIBLE.
19:22:27 WE HAD OVER 50 KIDS THIS YEAR WITH COVID EVEN.
19:22:29 NORMALLY MORE LIKE 100.
19:22:32 AND THEY COME FROM ALL OVER THE CITY TO GRAY GABLES
19:22:35 JUST TO TRICK OR TREAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW OUR
19:22:39 NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE OF THE SAFEST ONES OUT THERE.
19:22:43 ALL THIS STUFF TO US IS SOMETHING TO BE TREASURED.
19:22:47 NOW ANOTHER HOUSE -- AND, AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT I AM
19:22:49 COMPLAINING ABOUT, AN EXTRA HOUSE.
19:22:54 THAT IS BLUE GARAGE CAN, A GREEN RECYCLE BIN, CARS IN
19:22:56 THE STREET, PROBABLY.
19:22:59 I KNOW IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE PLANS, BUT THEY DON'T
19:23:01 ALWAYS PARK BEHIND EACH OTHER.
19:23:04 SOMETIMES THEY PARK IN THE STREET.
19:23:08 AND IF A CAR BLOCKS A DRIVEWAY, WHICH -- WHAT ONE OF
19:23:12 YOU ALL ASKED ABOUT EARLIER PEOPLE HAVE TO GO AROUND
19:23:14 THE CAR TO GET CLOSER TO THE STREET.
19:23:16 CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A COUPLE OF PIZZA DELIVERY
19:23:20 SHOPS AND A CELL PHONE STORE RIGHT AT THE END OF OUR
19:23:21 BLOCK.
19:23:23 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN PEOPLE LEAVE A CELL PHONE
19:23:25 STORE WITH A NEW CELL PHONE, BUT THEY ARE NOT LOOKING
19:23:27 AT THE ROAD UNFORTUNATELY.
19:23:32 THEY ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CELL PHONE.
19:23:37 THE GREAT -- THE BAYSHORE PROBLEMS OF THE LAST YEAR OR
19:23:41 TWO KIND OF MAKES ME THINK OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CARS
19:23:44 NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH SMALL
19:23:46 KIDS EXERCISING, WALKING --
19:23:47 [BUZZER]
19:23:50 -- IS THAT MY TIME?
19:23:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
19:23:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WILL YOU GIVE HIM -- HE DIDN'T GET
19:23:56 TO THE POINT OF HIS STORY.
19:23:58 ANOTHER 30 SECONDS.
19:24:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:24:03 >> AGAIN, MY POINT IS -- THE QUESTION I ALWAYS WANTED
19:24:05 TO KNOW IS, WHY.
19:24:08 I KNOW YOU CAN APPROVE THIS.
19:24:09 AND MY QUESTION IS WHY.
19:24:13 EVERYTHING I KIND OF HEARD THIS WHOLE TIME IS WHY NOT
19:24:14 PUT AN EXTRA HOUSE THERE.
19:24:15 IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
19:24:17 PROBABLY WILL BE DONE AGAIN.
19:24:22 I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARILY PERSONALLY AND A
19:24:25 LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT THIS EXTRA
19:24:28 HOUSE IS NOT GOING TO BENEFIT ANYBODY WITH ONE
19:24:29 EXCEPTION.
19:24:29 THANK YOU.
19:24:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:24:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY PLEASE.
19:24:36 SIR?
19:24:39 SIR?
19:24:41 I AM GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION.
19:24:43 SINCE YOU LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:24:45 IS THE PARKING SELF-IMPOSED?
19:24:48 IS IT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF THAT IS CREATING THE
19:24:53 PARKING PROBLEMS OR THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU MENTIONED?
19:24:57 >> I DON'T SEE THE BUSINESSES OTHER THAN THE ONES HE
19:25:01 MENTIONED THAT HAVE AN IN-HOUSE BUSINESS -- THE MASSAGE
19:25:03 THERAPY OR WHATEVER.
19:25:07 NO, THE BUSINESSES DOWN ON THE END ON KENNEDY, THE CELL
19:25:11 PHONE STORE, THE PAPA JOHN'S PIZZA, THE UBEREATS THAT
19:25:13 PICK UP AND CUT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:25:16 THOSE ARE THE -- THOSE -- THAT IS THE TRAFFIC THAT
19:25:19 WORRIES ME, BUT JUST THE NEIGHBORS PARKING ON THE
19:25:22 STREET FOR -- BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE CARS THEN THEY
19:25:25 NEED OR BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PARK BEHIND EACH
19:25:25 OTHER.
19:25:28 BUT THAT'S REALLY, IN MY OPINION --
19:25:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE PARKING IS SELF-IMPOSED IN THE
19:25:31 NEIGHBORHOOD?
19:25:32 >> YES, SIR.
19:25:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:25:35 NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
19:25:37 ANYBODY ELSE WISH -- ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
19:25:39 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
19:25:40 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
19:25:43 >> YES, THANK YOU, MEMBERS.
19:25:44 GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
19:25:46 ANTHONY CACHUCK.
19:25:50 I LIVE AT 3701 CARMEN STREET.
19:25:54 I, ALONG WITH MY WIFE, ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT TO
19:25:55 PURCHASE ONE OF THE LOTS IN QUESTION.
19:25:59 WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE ON THAT LOT AND BUILD
19:26:00 OUR FOREVER HOME.
19:26:04 WE CURRENTLY LIVE ABOUT HALF A MILE AWAY AND FELL IN
19:26:07 LOVE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE TAKING OUR NEWBORN
19:26:10 DAUGHTER, CHARLOTTE, ON EVENING WALKS.
19:26:13 WE WERE INITIALLY STRUCK WITH HOW FRIENDLY EVERYONE WAS
19:26:16 AND HOW CLOSE KNIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS.
19:26:18 STARTED SPENDING MORE EVENINGS WALKING WE CAME TO KNOW
19:26:21 SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS AND WE WERE INVITED TO
19:26:24 DRIVEWAY HAPPY HOURS OR PLAY DATES FOR OUR DAUGHTER.
19:26:26 THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE SPEND TIME ON
19:26:31 THEIR FRONT PORCHES RATHER THAN THEIR BACK PORCHES AND
19:26:35 PEOPLE TRULY APPRECIATE THE TIME SPENT WITH NEIGHBORS.
19:26:36 ANOTHER CHARACTERISTIC THAT DREW US TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
19:26:39 WAS THE NUMBER OF YOUNG CHILDREN CONSTANTLY PLAYING IN
19:26:41 THE STREETS AND FRONT YARDS.
19:26:44 WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HAVE YOU OUR
19:26:47 YOUNG DAUGHTER AND FUTURE CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
19:26:49 SURROUNDED BY CHILDREN THEIR AGE.
19:26:51 FURTHER, WE ARE DRAWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF
19:26:53 THE STRENGTH OF THE LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS OF MITCHELL,
19:26:57 WILSON AND PLANT AND RELISH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR
19:26:59 CHILDREN TO ATTEND THESE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS.
19:27:02 WE LOVE THE CENTRALIZED LOCATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:27:06 WE CAN QUICKLY GET TO CARROLLWOOD TO VISIT MY IN-LAWS
19:27:10 OR SAFETY HARBOR TO VISIT MY PARENTS.
19:27:12 LESS THAN TWO MILES TO OUR CHURCH AND DAUGHTER'S
19:27:17 PRESCHOOL AT PALMA CEIA METHODIST AND TO BE IN CLOSE
19:27:19 PROXIMITY TO SO MANY AMENITIES.
19:27:24 WE LOVE THE ABILITY TO WALK TO RESTAURANTS, RENZO AND
19:27:26 OLIVIA'S JUST TO NAME A FEW.
19:27:30 GROCERY STORES AND LOCAL SHOPS ALONG HENDERSON.
19:27:33 WE FEEL IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH
19:27:38 WORLDS LIVING IN AN URBAN WALKING TO THE AMENITIES AND
19:27:41 AT TIGHT-KNIT NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:27:45 WE WOULD LOVE TO ESTABLISH ROOTS IN GRAY GABLES AND
19:27:48 CEMENT OUR ROOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONTINUE TO
19:27:50 BUILD RELATIONSHIP WITH NEIGHBORS AND CHILDREN MAKING
19:27:51 LIFE-LONG FRIENDS.
19:27:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:27:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUICK QUESTION.
19:27:59 YOU MADE IT YOUR NAME IS KACHUK.
19:27:59 >> FAVORITE HOCKEY PLAYER.
19:28:08 >> KEITH TKACHUK AND HIS TWO SONS IN THE LEAGUE.
19:28:10 >> NOT ME.
19:28:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THOUGHT YOU WERE PLAYING FOR THE
19:28:12 LIGHTNING.
19:28:14 >> I WISH.
19:28:15 BUT NO.
19:28:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:28:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
19:28:19 GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME.
19:28:24 >> GOOD EVENING, KRISTEN CACHUCK AND VERY MUCH WISH MY
19:28:25 HUSBAND PLAYED FOR THE LIGHTNING.
19:28:26 [LAUGHTER]
19:28:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND THAT.
19:28:30 >> I CAN PROMISE WE WILL NOT NEED TO SPLIT THE LOT IF
19:28:32 THAT WAS THE CASE.
19:28:34 I WANTED TO LIVE IN GRAY GABLES EVER SINCE I BEGAN
19:28:38 TAKING LONG WALKS WITH MY ONE-AND-A-HALF-YEAR-OLD,
19:28:38 CHARLIE.
19:28:42 MY HUSBAND WILL PROBABLY TAKE CREDIT FOR FINDING THIS
19:28:44 NEIGHBORHOOD AND HE WOULD BE INCORRECT.
19:28:48 I DID THE LONG POST-MATERNITY WALKS WITH HER THERE.
19:28:53 EVEN SHOW SHE HAS OUTGROWN HER STROLLER RIDES, WE WALK
19:28:56 OVER TO VISIT WITH HER FRIENDS.
19:28:59 I LOVE HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS SO REMOVED FROM THE
19:29:01 CITY WITH THE QUIET STREETS AND WELCOMING FRONT PORCHES
19:29:03 EVEN MINUTES FROM DOWNTOWN.
19:29:07 A NUMBER OF MY FAVORITE GROCERY STORES TRADER JOE'S AND
19:29:10 SPROUTS AND MOST FREQUENTED RESTAURANTS.
19:29:13 AS A GOVERNMENT LAWYER WHO WORKS AT THE COURTHOUSE, IT
19:29:17 IS IMPERATIVE THAT I LIVE CLOSE TO THE OFFICE OF THE
19:29:19 WORK-LIFE BALANCE I AM TOLD TO BE ACHIEVING.
19:29:22 IN ADDITION TO BEING CLOSE TO WORK, CLOSE TO MY
19:29:26 DAUGHTER'S PEDIATRICIAN AND MY PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR AND
19:29:29 MOST IMPORTANTLY CLOSE TO OUR HOME CHURCH PALMA CEIA
19:29:33 METHODIST WHERE OUR DAUGHTER ATTENDS SCHOOL.
19:29:36 I LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE
19:29:41 RESULTS OF THIS REZONING A YEAR AND FOREGONE OTHER
19:29:44 OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE WITH GRAY GABLES TO BE THE SITE
19:29:45 OF OUR FOREVER HOME.
19:29:49 THE NEIGHBORHOOD NECESSARILY INCLUDES THE AESTHETICS OF
19:29:50 THE HOME.
19:29:52 IF WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD IN GRAY GABLES, WE WILL
19:29:54 ABSOLUTELY BE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS THE
19:29:57 DESIGNS AND ELEVATIONS OF THE HOMES CURRENTLY IN THE
19:29:57 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:30:00 WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO DIMINISH THE UNIQUE FEEL OF THIS
19:30:03 NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A HOUSE THAT DID NOT FIT WITH THE
19:30:06 HOMES THAT ARE IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
19:30:15 I LIVED THERE TAMPA MY ENTIRE LIFE AND ALLOW TO ENSURE
19:30:19 THAT CHARLIE ATTENDS THE GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND AS
19:30:23 WELL AS THE CHANCE TO GROW UP WITH EASY ACCESS TO
19:30:24 FAVORITE PARKS.
19:30:25 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERING THIS
19:30:26 EVENING.
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19:30:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:30:28 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:30:29 >> MY NAME IS LISA FOSTER, AND I RESIDE AT 901
19:30:42 MIZZENMAST.
19:30:47 I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ON BEHALF OF LINDA FOSTER, SO
19:30:48 THIS IS -- THESE ARE HER WORDS.
19:30:51 MY PARENTS LIVED AT 111 SOUTH GALUND AVENUE FOR OVER 45
19:30:58 YEARS.
19:30:58 LOVED THE NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:31:00 DURING THAT TIME -- I'M SORRY.
19:31:02 LOVING THE NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:31:04 DURING THAT TIME, THEY IMPRESSED UPON ME THE IMPORTANCE
19:31:06 OF THE UNIQUENESS AND SURROUNDING HOME.
19:31:09 WE SAW HOMES GET REDEVELOPED OVER TIME INCLUDING FOLKS
19:31:14 TAKING OLD LOTS AND CONVERTING THEM TO TWO HOMESITES
19:31:18 ORIGINALLY PLATTED.
19:31:19 BOTH MY PARENTS AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER MADE ME PROMISE
19:31:25 NOT TO COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY
19:31:27 SELLING TO SOME NATIONAL COMPANY TO BUILD A McMANSION
19:31:31 ON THE PROPERTY.
19:31:32 THEY REPEATEDLY TOLD ME THEIR HOUSE HAD BEEN BUILT ON TWO
19:31:36 PLATTED LOTS AND TO TREAT IT AS SUCH, AS ONE HOME WAS TO
19:31:40 BE BUILT ON THIS DOUBLE LOT, IT WOULD BE THE LARGEST
19:31:44 HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:31:47 THE PLANS TO GUZZARDO INCLUDED THE PLANS OF THE FRONT
19:31:55 PORCH WHICH SATISFIED MY PARENTS' WISHES AND PROVIDES FOR
19:31:58 TWO HOMES AS WAS MEANT TO BE.
19:32:03 I HAVE NO DOUBT THE HOMES BUILT WILL BE IN KEEPING WITH
19:32:05 THE QUAINTNESS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:32:07 I KNOW HE HAS INVESTED INTEREST AS MUCH AS ANYONE BECAUSE
19:32:10 HE LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
19:32:12 BEING A TAMPA NATIVE AND WITNESSING THE CHANGES IN SOUTH
19:32:15 TAMPA OVER MY 71 YEARS, I ONLY WANT TO ENHANCE GRAY
19:32:20 GABLES, NOT DEVALUE IT.
19:32:22 THIS IS OUR FAMILY INHERITANCE.
19:32:24 I HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
19:32:27 I'M SIMPLY ASKING TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS OTHERS IN
19:32:30 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:32:31 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
19:32:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:32:40 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:32:41 GO AHEAD.
19:32:41 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY OUTSIDE THAT WISHES TO COME INTO THE
19:32:44 CHAMBERS IN THE LOBBY?
19:32:46 THERE ARE PLENTY OF SEATS HERE AND THEY ARE SPREAD OUT.
19:32:49 GO AHEAD.
19:32:49 >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL MIDAZ SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY WIFE
19:32:54 NOELLE AS WELL.
19:32:59 THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, AND, YEAH, INITIALLY WHEN THEY
19:33:04 SAID IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED, DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN THE
19:33:07 MIDDLE OF IT AND WE THOUGHT WHOEVER BOUGHT IT COULD
19:33:09 DEVELOP IT AS THEY WANTED BUT ALSO AS WE GOT TO KNOW JP
19:33:13 OVER TIME, HE'S BEEN VERY SENSITIVE TO OUR NEEDS WITH
19:33:16 WHAT WAS GOING NEXT TO US.
19:33:18 I THINK HE'S TRIED TO MAKE CHANGES TO SATISFY PEOPLE IN
19:33:20 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK HE HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN
19:33:26 BOTH LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AND MAKING IT APPEALING BUT
19:33:30 ALSO LIVING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AROUND HIM, AND DON'T
19:33:34 THINK HE'S TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO HURT THE VALUE OF
19:33:39 THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE NEIGHBORS AROUND HIM.
19:33:45 SO WE SUPPORT -- IT HAS BEEN JUST AN EMPTY LOT.
19:33:50 NO ONE HAS LIVED THERE FOR A WHILE NOW AND IT'S HAD
19:33:54 NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON US BECAUSE THERE'S BIG TREES, TREE
19:33:56 BRANCHES ARE FALLING ON OUR HOUSE THAT NO ONE HAS BEEN
19:33:59 THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND SO WE ARE EAGER FOR IT
19:34:02 TO BE REDEVELOPED INTO SOME NICER NEW HOMES.
19:34:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:34:10 NEXT SPEAKER.
19:34:13 NEXT SPEAKER?
19:34:14 ANYBODY ELSE?
19:34:18 PETITIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY -- OH, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY,
19:34:23 WE HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOGGED IN.
19:34:24 I'M SORRY.
19:34:25 WHOEVER IS REGISTERED, IF YOU CAN BRING THEM ONTO THE
19:34:29 MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN.
19:34:32 >> HELLO?
19:34:58 >> MR. BRUCE CLARK.
19:35:01 CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND.
19:35:03 IF THEY WOULD UNMUTE THEMSELVES AND TURN ON THEIR
19:35:06 CAMERAS.
19:35:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK,
19:35:34 JUST IN CASE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
19:35:38 >> HI.
19:35:43 THIS IS AILEEN.
19:35:45 NO, THERE'S NO ONE HERE AT THE KIOSK.
19:35:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:35:51 ALL RIGHT.
19:35:54 DO WE HAVE TWO MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING UP?
19:36:02 ALL RIGHT.
19:36:03 THEN WE ARE MISSING BRUCE CLARKE.
19:36:12 ALL RIGHT, WE'LL START WITH THE THREE THAT WE HAVE.
19:36:15 IF YOU WOULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DEBBIE, MICHAEL AND
19:36:19 CAROL ANN AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
19:36:22 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
19:36:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DEBBIE, GO AHEAD.
19:36:31 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
19:36:31 >> MAY I PLEASE ASK FOR AN EXTRA THREE SECONDS JUST SO
19:36:38 THAT I CAN SLOW DOWN THE DELIVERY OF MY THOUGHTS?
19:36:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, SURE, GO AHEAD.
19:36:46 >> MIGHT NOT NEED THEM.
19:36:47 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:36:49 GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DEBBIE ZOMERMAAND, 192
19:36:54 CORSICA STREET.
19:36:56 IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY, I AM A REGISTERED MUNICIPAL
19:36:59 FINANCIAL ADVISER AND PRINCIPAL AND I ROUTINELY REVIEW
19:37:05 REGULATIONS.
19:37:06 REGULATIONS OFTEN HAVE DETAILED PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS
19:37:11 WHICH MUST BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED.
19:37:13 THE FLUEDR STATUTES HAVE SUCH REQUIREMENTS SINCE THEY
19:37:19 WEREN'T FOLLOWED.
19:37:20 ON MARCH 13, 2020, MS. WELLS ADVISED YOU OF THE
19:37:25 MEMORANDUM WHICH HAD BEEN INCLUDED WITHIN THE RECORD.
19:37:27 THE PUBLIC WAS ADVISED THROUGH A MEDIATION NOTICE THAT IF
19:37:31 A RESOLUTION CANNOT BE REACHED DURING THE SCHEDULED
19:37:33 MEDIATION, A SECOND HEARING WILL BE HELD TO DETERMINE THE
19:37:36 IMPACT OF THE DENIAL AND SUCH HEARING DATE WOULD BE SET
19:37:39 AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEDIATION.
19:37:42 PER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, THE PARTIES DID NOT REACH A
19:37:45 MUTUALLY AGREEABLE SETTLEMENT AT THE JULY 2020 MEDIATION,
19:37:49 NOR WAS THERE ANY REFERENCE TO A SECOND HEARING.
19:37:52 RETURNING TO MS. WELLS MEMORANDUM, NUMBER ONE, QUOTE, THE
19:37:56 INFORMAL MEDIATION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL THE SPECIAL
19:38:00 MAGISTRATE WILL HOLD A SPECIAL SECOND HEARING TO CONSIDER
19:38:03 THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES SET FORTH IN THE DEMAND AND
19:38:06 ANY OTHER INFORMATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE CITY
19:38:09 COUNCIL'S DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION IS UNREASONABLE OR
19:38:12 UNFAIRLY BURDENS THE PROPERTY.
19:38:15 END QUOTE.
19:38:16 THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SUCH HEARING WAS HELD PRIOR TO
19:38:18 THE DATE OF THE WRITTEN ORDER.
19:38:20 TWO, AND I QUOTE, WITHIN 14 DAYS AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF
19:38:24 THE HEARING, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WILL FILE A WRITTEN
19:38:28 RECOMMENDATION, END QUOTE.
19:38:29 THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FILED 51 DAYS AFTER THE CONCLUSION
19:38:33 OF THE HEARING.
19:38:34 WELL AFTER THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.
19:38:38 NOTE FLORIDA STATUTE 70.51, IDENTIFIED CERTAIN MATTERS
19:38:42 THAT MAY EXHIBIT THE 14 DAY DEADLINE NOT ONE OF THEM.
19:38:47 THREE, QUOTE, IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THE CITY
19:38:50 COUNCIL'S DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION IS DOES NOT BURDEN
19:38:56 THE PROPERTY, THE DENIAL WILL REMAIN UNDISTURBED AND THE
19:38:59 PROCEEDINGS SHALL END.
19:39:01 ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THE
19:39:04 DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION IS UNREASONABLE OR UNFAIRLY
19:39:09 BURDENS THE PROPERTY, MAY RECOMMEND ONE OR MORE
19:39:12 ALTERNATIVES THAT PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S INTERESTS BY THE
19:39:16 APPLICATION, END QUOTE.
19:39:17 NOT ONLY IS THE FAILURE TO MAKE THE FINDING
19:39:20 UNREASONABLENESS OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION A CONFLICT
19:39:23 WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTES, A SETTLEMENT IS BEING
19:39:26 PROPOSED, NO FOUNDATIONAL BASIS, OR THE RECOMMENDATION.
19:39:33 FLUEDR PROCEEDINGS SHOULD NOT BE USED TO OVERTURN
19:39:36 DECISIONS WITHOUT EXPLANATION.
19:39:38 THE LAW AND THE CITY CODE ARE CLEAR.
19:39:40 DECISIONS WITHIN A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING -- [~AUDIO
19:39:49 DISTORTION~]
19:39:50 AS THIS STANDARD WAS NOT MET THE COUNCIL MUST -- THE
19:39:56 RECOMMENDED ORDER.
19:39:56 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
19:39:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS MICHAEL VICARI.
19:40:03 YES, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
19:40:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS GENTLEMAN MADE A LOT OF LEGAL
19:40:09 REFERENCES, AND TO COME BACK POSSIBLY.
19:40:28 >>TOYIN AINA HARGRETT: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
19:40:32 THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY MS. ZOMERMAAND WERE
19:40:35 THINGS THAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED WITH CITY COUNCIL
19:40:37 EARLIER TODAY.
19:40:39 THERE IS THE COMPLETION OF THE PROCESS, A
19:40:42 MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS.
19:40:43 IT'S A TWO PHASE PROCESS.
19:40:45 THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT DIDN'T GET TO PHASE 2 WHICH IS
19:40:48 THE MORE ADVERSARIAL ASPECT, WHERE THERE WOULD BE WRITTEN
19:40:52 FINDINGS, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY CAME TO A MUTUALLY
19:40:56 ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION, WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO
19:40:58 YOU HERE TODAY.
19:40:59 THERE IS ALSO REFERENCE TO THE STATUTORY TIME FRAMES, AND
19:41:03 THERE WAS AN EXTENSION OF THAT TIME FRAME AND AGREEMENT
19:41:08 TO DO THAT BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND IT WAS ACTUALLY REDUCE
19:41:11 TO WRITING.
19:41:12 THE STATUTE DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT STATUTE OF TIME BE
19:41:15 REDUCED TO WRITING BUT IN THIS CASE WE DID THAT SO THAT
19:41:18 WAS ALSO ACCOMPLISHED HERE, AS WELL AS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
19:41:20 CITY COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE STATUTES
19:41:23 INDICATES THAT IT IS TO BE LIBERALLY CONSTRUED IN ORDER
19:41:26 TO EFFECT THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE STATUTE WHICH IS
19:41:31 TO COME TO A MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION.
19:41:33 SO WE DON'T FIND ANY MERIT IN THE ARGUMENTS THAT WERE
19:41:37 MADE.
19:41:38 THOSE ARE LEGAL ARGUMENTS.
19:41:39 I DON'T BELIEVE MS. ZOMERMAAND, AS SHE INDICATED, IS AN
19:41:45 ATTORNEY, BUT THIS IS THE LEGAL ADVICE BEING PRESENTED TO
19:41:48 YOU TODAY.
19:41:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW SOME PEOPLE -- I THINK THERE'S
19:41:53 SOME CONFUSION, BUT I THINK MS. WELLS CAN KIND OF CLEAR
19:41:55 UP FOR THE RECORD, THE MEDIATION IS BETWEEN THE
19:41:58 PETITIONER AND THE CITY, NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, RIGHT?
19:42:03 >>TOYIN AINA HARGRETT: ABSOLUTELY.
19:42:04 AND ALL OF THIS IS DONE AT THE DIRECTION AND UNDER THE
19:42:07 GUIDANCE OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
19:42:09 THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE BY PROVIDING TESTIMONY OR RECEIVE
19:42:12 NOTICE AND CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY ARE
19:42:14 PROPERTY OWNERS OF ADJACENT PROPERTY CAN PARTICIPATE BUT
19:42:17 THEY DON'T BECOME PARTIES TO THE PROCESS, THEY DON'T
19:42:21 BECOME INTERVENORS TO THE PROCESS.
19:42:23 THEIR PARTICIPATION IS LIMITED TO COMMENTING ON ANY
19:42:26 RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE PROFFERED.
19:42:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT A PART OF NEGOTIATIONS.
19:42:36 >>TOYIN AINA HARGRETT: STATUTORILY, THEY CANNOT BE.
19:42:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
19:42:41 YES?
19:42:44 MICHAEL VICARI IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
19:42:50 >> CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
19:42:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
19:42:53 GO AHEAD.
19:42:54 >> SO WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PLANNED
19:42:58 DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING BUT REALLY I GO BACK TO OUR
19:43:00 NEIGHBORHOOD AS AN RS-60 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:43:03 SO WHY ARE WE ALLOWING TO CREATE TWO RS-50 LOTS?
19:43:06 I REALLY THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND WHY
19:43:11 JUST BECAUSE WE ASK THERE'S NO HARDSHIP HERE, THERE'S NO
19:43:14 REASON TO CREATE TWO LOTS.
19:43:16 IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WANTS TO CREATE TWO LOTS,
19:43:20 WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS RS-60. IF WE WANT TO CREATE TWO
19:43:24 RS-50 LOTS, WHY DON'T WE PETITION TO MAKE THE WHOLE
19:43:27 NEIGHBORHOOD RS-50 AND WE CAN GO THROUGH IT THAT WAY?
19:43:30 I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR ONE
19:43:32 INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE MONEY BY SPLITTING HIGH-DOLLAR LOTS.
19:43:37 THAT'S KIND OF MY FIRST POINT, IS WE ARE RS-60.
19:43:40 WE ARE NOT RS-50.
19:43:42 AND THAT'S THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF OUR CITY THAT WE
19:43:45 SET IN PLACE.
19:43:46 MY SECOND POINT AND KIND OF MY FINAL POINT IS THE
19:43:50 MEDIATION IS A GREAT TOOL USED, I THINK JP AND THE
19:43:54 LAWYERS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF USING WHAT'S AT THEIR
19:43:57 DISPOSAL, BUT REALLY WHAT I SEE THE MEDIATION IS, IT'S AN
19:44:01 UNDERLYING THREAT THAT IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME WHAT I WANT,
19:44:04 THE NEXT STEP IS I CAN FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU, SO WE
19:44:08 ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH MEDIATION, AND IF YOU DON'T GIVE
19:44:10 ME WHAT I WANT WE ARE GOING TO FILE A LAWSUIT AND THE
19:44:13 CITY HAS TO LISTEN TO THAT CAREFULLY BECAUSE IT TAKES
19:44:15 TIME AND RESOURCES TO GO THROUGH A LAWSUIT LIKE THIS.
19:44:19 SO IT'S KIND OF A TACTIC TO SAY THIS IS A CLOSE VOTE IN
19:44:23 THE FIRST PLACE, I THINK IT WAS 3-4, LET'S PUSH ONE
19:44:27 PERSON OVER BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH IS
19:44:29 THIS GOING TO COST THE CITY IF WE DON'T ALLOW THIS LOT
19:44:32 SPLIT, BUT IT GOES BACK TO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND
19:44:35 WE ARE RS-60 NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT RS-50.
19:44:38 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
19:44:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:44:41 CAROL ANN BENNETT, YOU ARE NEXT.
19:44:44 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A LIFE LONG RESIDENT
19:44:53 OF SOUTH TAMPA.
19:44:54 ACCORDING TO ANDERSON'S AMERICAN LAW, THE CLASSIC
19:44:57 DEFINITION OF SPOT ZONING IS A PROCESS SINGLING OUT A
19:45:01 SMALL PARCEL OF LAND FOR A USE CLASSIFICATION DIFFERENT
19:45:04 FROM THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE OWNER OF
19:45:08 SUCH PROPERTY AND TO THE DETRIMENT OF OTHER OWNERS.
19:45:11 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
19:45:13 PLAN FEELS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SO
19:45:17 IMPORTANT, THEY HAVE AT LOWEST FIVE POLICIES THAT I KNOW
19:45:21 OF, THAT BASICALLY SAY MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE
19:45:24 NEIGHBORHOOD, 9.5.1, 9.5.2, 9.5.4, 9.3.9 AND 13.2.6.
19:45:35 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ACCORDING TO THE
19:45:37 STAFF REPORT, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS 82% LARGER LOTS THAN
19:45:44 WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
19:45:45 82% IS 55 FEET OR GREATER.
19:45:49 ONLY 28% BEING THE SMALLER SIZE, THE 50-FOOT THEY ARE
19:45:55 ASKING FOR, AND THEREFORE THE CHARACTER OF THE
19:45:57 NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS THE LARGE LOTS.
19:46:01 THE ECLECTIC NATURE OF IT, BUT THE LARGE LOTS SHALL THE
19:46:05 CHARACTER, 82%.
19:46:07 AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT LIKE THIS
19:46:12 TRAPEZOID THING IS IRRELEVANT.
19:46:15 YOU OBVIOUSLY SEE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
19:46:16 THAT'S WHAT IS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:46:19 AND I FEEL THAT THE LAWSUITS FROM THE FLUEDR ARE BECOMING
19:46:29 A BIG PROBLEM.
19:46:29 I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING INAPPROPRIATELY CONFUSED BY
19:46:33 DEVELOPERS AND ATTORNEYS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY
19:46:36 DON'T GET IT THE FIRST TIME AROUND.
19:46:40 THIS IS A GREAT CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S BECOME A WORK
19:46:44 AROUND.
19:46:45 IT'S BECOME PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
19:46:50 THIS IS NOW THEIR GO-TO THING FOR SOMETHING AS SMALL AS A
19:46:53 LOT SPLIT.
19:46:55 THIS IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
19:46:58 AND IF THE CITY COUNCIL HONESTLY THINKS A REZONING IS IN
19:47:02 THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE THE
19:47:04 POWER TO VOTE ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY THINK IS IN THE BEST
19:47:08 INTEREST OF THE CITY.
19:47:10 THEY SHOULD NOT BE BULLIED INTO VOTING FOR SOMETHING
19:47:13 THAT'S -- THAT THEY THINK IS DETRIMENTAL ONLY BECAUSE
19:47:18 THEY ARE BEING THREATENED.
19:47:29 AND YOUR POSITION AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND MAKE IT SO
19:47:31 THAT WE ARE NOT BEING BULLIED INTO REZONING NEIGHBORHOODS
19:47:40 AND SHREDDING THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING.
19:47:43 THANK YOU.
19:47:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:47:44 BRUCE CLARK, YOU ARE NEXT BUT YOU WERE NOT SWORN IN.
19:47:46 I DIDN'T SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN. IF WE COULD SWEAR HIM
19:47:49 IN.
19:47:49 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
19:47:51 >> I DO.
19:47:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
19:47:57 >> OKAY.
19:47:58 WHEN THE REQUEST FOR RELIEF WAS FILED, THE STATUTE
19:48:03 REQUIRES THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST STATE HOW THE DENIAL
19:48:06 UNFAIRLY BURDENS.
19:48:08 THE ONLY THING THEY CLAIM IN THAT APPLICATION IS THE FACT
19:48:11 THAT THEY LOST THE ABILITY TO CREATE AND DEVELOP TWO
19:48:16 SEPARATE LOTS.
19:48:17 THE CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CATE WELLS RESPONDED BY
19:48:23 SAYING THE CITY'S ACTION IN DENYING THE PETITIONER'S
19:48:26 APPLICATION IS NOT UNREASONABLE OR UNFAIRLY BURDENSOME TO
19:48:29 THE PETITIONER.
19:48:30 SO IN EFFECT THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO CIRCUMVENT THE
19:48:33 ORIGINAL RULING OF CITY COUNCIL, AND ON APPEAL.
19:48:42 THIS THE BASIC IDEA IS STILL THE SAME.
19:48:48 THE EXPERTS STUDY ON THE CHARACTER OF THE GRAY GABLES
19:48:52 NEIGHBORHOOD AS PRESENTED BY MR. KRAMER, ONE OF THE
19:48:58 SECTIONS SPEAKS OF THE VARYING LOT SIZES AND SHAPES
19:49:02 CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECLECTIC CHARACTER.
19:49:06 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:49:06 I LIVE AT 212 SOUTH GUNLOCK AVENUE ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS
19:49:11 THE STREET.
19:49:13 MY LOT IS 50-FOOT WIDE, 5 FEET BIDER THAN THE NEIGHBORING
19:49:18 LOTS.
19:49:19 THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT NOTICEABLE AT ALL.
19:49:21 THE CONTENTION THAT PROVIDING A 108-FOOT WIDE INTO ONE
19:49:26 50-FOOT WIDE LOT AND ONE 58-FOOT WIDE LOT MAINTAINS THE
19:49:30 APPEARANCE OF DIFFERENT LOT SIZES IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
19:49:34 A DIVIDED LOT AT 111 SOUTH GUNLOCK AVENUE ELIMINATES THE
19:49:38 VARYING SIZE DISTINCTION AND MOVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD MUCH
19:49:41 CLOSER TO THE COOKIE CUTTER APPEARANCE THAT MS. FEELEY
19:49:46 MENTIONS IS NOT A CHARACTERISTIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:49:51 SO WHEN THE COUNCIL DENIED REZ 20-01 BACK IN FEBRUARY THE
19:50:01 APPLICANT FAILED TO MEET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
19:50:04 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE PETITION IS
19:50:06 CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY
19:50:09 OF TAMPA ORDINANCES, AS JUST A MINUTE AGO WERE MENTIONED.
19:50:15 NOTHING IN THE MEDIATED SETTLEMENT NOW PRESENTED MEETS
19:50:19 THAT BURDEN OF PROOF.
19:50:20 THANK YOU.
19:50:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:50:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:50:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CLARKE, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
19:50:28 >> YES, I CAN.
19:50:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS JOHN DINGFELDER.
19:50:33 SO I'M LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL COLORFUL MAP THAT WE HAVE
19:50:39 BEEN PROVIDED BY THE STAFF.
19:50:40 I THINK THIS WAS FROM THE ORIGINAL HEARING.
19:50:43 THAT SHOWS THE VARIOUS LOT SIZES THROUGHOUT THE
19:50:45 NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:50:47 I PROBABLY SEE YOURS AS ONE OF THE FEW LOTS IN THE SORT
19:50:54 OF BLUE SHADED WHICH IS 55 TO 59 FEET WIDE.
19:51:01 SO MY QUESTION TO YOU -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE
19:51:04 ANSWER TO THIS -- WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT ZONING ON YOUR
19:51:08 PROPERTY?
19:51:09 IS IT RS-60 OR RS-50?
19:51:12 >> IT'S RS-60 LIKE THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:51:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RS-60.
19:51:17 THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID?
19:51:18 >> YES.
19:51:19 RS SIX ZERO.
19:51:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
19:51:23 BUT YOUR PROPERTY IS FIVE FEET LESS.
19:51:26 YOU HAVE A 55-FOOT WIDE PROPERTY.
19:51:29 THAT'S WHAT YOU TESTIFIED TO, RIGHT?
19:51:31 >> CORRECT.
19:51:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO UNDER TODAY'S STANDARDS, OBVIOUSLY
19:51:36 IT PROBABLY GOES WAY BACK AS TO WHY IT'S RS-60 AND WHY
19:51:40 YOUR LOT IS RS 55 BUT UNDER TODAY'S STANDARDS, YOU DON'T
19:51:45 MEET THE RS-60 EITHER.
19:51:47 >> WELL, VERY FEW LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DO MEET THE
19:51:50 RS-60.
19:51:52 RS-60 WAS IMPOSED SOMETIME IN THE 80S, I THINK AROUND 87.
19:51:59 AND I GUESS COULD YOU SAY THAT EXISTING LOTS WERE
19:52:01 GRANDFATHERED IN, IN EFFECT.
19:52:03 THEY COULDN'T MAKE PEOPLE COMPLY, STRETCH THEIR PROPERTY,
19:52:08 SO YES, IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH RS-60, BUT I'M NOT SURE
19:52:14 WHAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT REALLY IS.
19:52:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE
19:52:22 EVERYBODY -- I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WELL.
19:52:25 EVERYBODY HAS DESCRIBED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS ECLECTIC.
19:52:29 MEANING IT HAS A LOT OF VARIATION.
19:52:32 AND SO EVEN ON YOUR STREET, ON YOUR SIDE OF THE BLOCK,
19:52:36 YOU HAVE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, MAYBE
19:52:42 SEVEN, EIGHT PROPERTIES THAT APPEAR TO BE, QUOTE,
19:52:47 NONCONFORMING LESS THAN SIXTY FEET WIDE, AND YET THERE
19:52:50 ARE RS-60.
19:52:52 >> WELL, RS-60 WAS NOT APPLIED INDIVIDUALLY, AS I
19:52:56 UNDERSTAND IT.
19:52:57 IT WAS APPLIED TO BROAD SWATHS OF TAMPA.
19:53:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
19:53:04 I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IT FOR THE RECORD, MR. CLARK.
19:53:07 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND FOR YOUR
19:53:10 PARTICIPATION.
19:53:10 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
19:53:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:53:16 OKAY.
19:53:17 PETITIONER, IF YOU HAVE REBUTTAL.
19:53:20 >> YES, SIR.
19:53:25 JAKE KRAMER FOR THE RECORD.
19:53:26 COULD WE PULL BACK UP MY PRESENTATION, PLEASE, MADAM
19:53:29 CLERK?
19:53:30 AND TAKE US TO SLIDE NUMBER 7.
19:53:33 I WISH I COULD FIND FIVE FISCAL SUPPORTERS FOR ALL MIGHT
19:53:38 HAVE CASES.
19:53:40 MY GRANDDAD USED TO CALL THIS A PROBLEM WITH PLENTY.
19:53:44 WE HAVE GOT A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN TAMPA AND A LOT OF
19:53:46 PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE HERE.
19:53:51 COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD STARTED OUT AS BEING
19:53:53 ENVISIONED WITH MANY LOTS LESS THAN 60 FEET.
19:54:00 MANY AS WE HAVE HEARD THE TESTIMONY EVEN FROM THE
19:54:02 OPPOSITION, MANY OF THESE LOTS WERE DEVELOPED AND ARE
19:54:06 NOT -- WOULD NOT BE CONFORMING TODAY.
19:54:10 THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME TRANSITION TO LARGER LOTS IN MID
19:54:13 CENTURY BUT CITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TRANSITIONED BACK
19:54:16 TO ITS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED FORM OVER THE LAST 30 TO 40
19:54:19 YEARS.
19:54:20 ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A FAIR SPLIT THAT MUCH OF THE
19:54:25 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY BEEN ALLOWED.
19:54:26 THIS WOULD NOT BE SPOT ZONING.
19:54:30 THERE'S A PRINCIPLE IN THE LAW THAT WHEN YOU ARE
19:54:33 SURROUNDED BY A SEA OF SIMILAR TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU
19:54:37 SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP YOUR PROPERTY IN A SIMILAR WAY
19:54:40 AND THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR HERE.
19:54:42 I ASK YOU TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS BASED ON THE EVIDENCE.
19:54:44 THERE'S NO COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN
19:54:46 PRESENTED BY THE OPPOSITION TODAY TO WHAT THEY ACTUALLY
19:54:49 DON'T LIKE ABOUT OUR NEW PD AND HOW IT MEETS THE
19:54:54 NEIGHBORHOOD STANDARDS.
19:54:56 THE ONLY EXPERT TESTIMONY IN THE RECORD IS BY YOUR
19:54:59 PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND BY ABBYE FEELEY.
19:55:02 MS. ABBYE FEELEY FOUND IN HER PRESENTATION AND HER REPORT
19:55:06 THAT THE ONLY THING OUT OF CHARACTER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
19:55:09 WOULD BE ALLOWING THIS PROPERTY TO REMAIN ONE LOT THAT'S
19:55:14 108 FEET WIDE.
19:55:17 WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
19:55:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:55:19 ANY QUESTIONS?
19:55:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:55:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. KRAMER, AS I STATED EARLIER, IN
19:55:26 THE PRESENTATION, IT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE
19:55:32 PARKING WAS SUCH AN ISSUE AT THE FIRST HEARING THAT THERE
19:55:37 MIGHT NOT BE A PARKING GARAGE ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY.
19:55:43 I DON'T KNOW IF THESE BEEN RESOLVED YET.
19:55:45 I DON'T KNOW IF THE KACHUKS ARE BUYING THE NORTH PROPERTY
19:55:50 OR THE SOUTH PROPERTY.
19:55:52 YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT ISSUE
19:55:55 AS RELATED TO THEM.
19:55:58 BUT FRANKLY, I THINK THE MEDIATED SETTLEMENT LOOKS LIKE
19:56:07 IT WAS REASONABLE AND WELL DONE, AS YOU STATED.
19:56:11 BUT THAT'S THE ONLY LITTLE CATCH I HAVE.
19:56:14 AND THAT'S JUST ME.
19:56:15 >> ONE MOMENT.
19:56:29 MR. DINGFELDER, I SPOKE TO MY CLIENT.
19:56:31 HE'S WILLING TO REQUIRE A GARAGE ON BOTH LOTS, AND THE
19:56:34 CONDITIONS WOULD REMAIN THE SAME OTHERWISE.
19:56:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
19:56:38 THEY CAN MODIFY THAT?
19:56:44 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, THEY CAN MAKE THAT MODIFICATION
19:56:46 BETWEEN FIRST AND SOAKED READING.
19:56:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THAT ACCOMMODATION FOR
19:56:50 THIS COUNCILMAN.
19:56:52 THANK YOU.
19:56:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
19:56:54 COUNCIL MEMBERS?
19:56:54 IF NOT, A MOTION TO CLOSE?
19:56:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
19:56:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CLOSE.
19:57:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
19:57:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
19:57:04 ANY OPPOSED?
19:57:05 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL ON ITEM NUMBER 9?
19:57:12 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
19:57:13 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 20-01
19:57:21 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
19:57:23 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
19:57:24 GENERAL VICINITY OF 111 SITE GUNLOCK AVENUE --
19:57:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
19:57:31 MARTIN SHELBY, IF I CAN.
19:57:33 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HAVE THE MATERIAL IN FRONT OF
19:57:38 YOU REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 9 ABOUT THE FIRST STEP BEING
19:57:45 THE ACTION ON THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION
19:57:48 BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION.
19:57:49 THE SECOND STAGE AS YOU WERE ADVISED EARLY ON WOULD BE TO
19:57:57 READ THE FIRST ORDINANCE -- EXCUSE ME, READ THE ORDINANCE
19:57:59 ON FIRST READING.
19:58:00 SO IF YOU CAN LOCATE ITEM NUMBER 9 --
19:58:05 >>BILL CARLSON: DO I READ THE WHOLE THING OR SAY I MOVIE
19:58:07 ON THIS ITEM THAT WE APPROVE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
19:58:10 RECOMMENDATION?
19:58:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE TEXT WOULD CERTAINLY ADD
19:58:16 TO THE RECORD AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.
19:58:19 >>BILL CARLSON: AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE AND
19:58:21 TESTIMONY WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED REZONING AND SITE
19:58:23 PLAN, AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OTHER RELEVANT
19:58:26 MATTERS IN THE PROCEEDING, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE
19:58:32 ACCEPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION AND TO
19:58:38 ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION.
19:58:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
19:58:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND I WILL SECOND THAT BUT ALSO SAY THAT
19:58:45 WE ARE MODIFYING THE RECOMMENDATION PER THE REQUEST OF
19:58:50 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THAT BOTH PROPERTIES DO HAVE
19:58:53 GARAGES.
19:58:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
19:58:56 CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
19:58:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE
19:59:01 RECORD.
19:59:01 I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
19:59:02 MARTIN SHELBY AGAIN.
19:59:03 IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO ADD THAT MODIFICATION?
19:59:06 >> KRAMER: YES.
19:59:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT IS PART OF YOUR MOTION?
19:59:12 THANK YOU.
19:59:13 WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DO THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE --
19:59:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
19:59:18 CARLSON WITH THE ADDITIONS ON THE SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
19:59:23 CITRO, WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON ACCEPTED.
19:59:26 ROLL CALL VOTE.
19:59:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
19:59:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:59:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
19:59:31 I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO THE SEVERAL FOLKS WHO EXPRESSED
19:59:34 CONCERN ABOUT THE PROCESS AND ABOUT THE LEGAL CHALLENGES.
19:59:42 I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN.
19:59:43 THIS IS NOW, I THINK, OUR FOURTH ONE OF THESE THIS YEAR
19:59:47 WHERE THERE WAS A DENIAL, THE PARTY IN ALL FOUR OF THEM
19:59:53 SUED THE CITY, WENT THROUGH THIS MEDIATION PROCESS, AND
19:59:59 COUNCIL PROCEEDED ACCORDINGLY, AND THREE OUT OF THE FOUR
20:00:03 WE APPROVED THE MEDIATED SETTLEMENT.
20:00:07 IT DOES SEEM TO BE A BIT OF A TREND, A BIT OF A PATTERN.
20:00:10 IT DISTURBS ME BECAUSE COUNCIL PUTS A LOT OF EFFORT INTO
20:00:16 MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND HOPEFULLY DOES IT IN A
20:00:19 LAW-ABIDING FASHION, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE ARE REVERSING
20:00:25 OURSELVES IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
20:00:27 SO EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING TO VOTE WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE I
20:00:33 THINK IT WAS A GOOD SETTLEMENT AND A REASONABLE
20:00:36 SETTLEMENT, UNDER THE VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES -- AND THIS
20:00:40 IS A VERY ECLECTIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WITH A LOT OF
20:00:44 50-FOOT LOTS, 55-FOOT LOTS AND 60-FOOT LOTS AND A COUPLE
20:00:49 100-FOOT LOTS.
20:00:50 IN LIGHT OF THAT I AM GOING TO VOTE WITH THIS ONE BUT I
20:00:53 AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TREND, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING
20:00:57 WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PROBABLY IN A WORKSHOP FORMAT AT
20:01:02 SOME FUTURE DATE.
20:01:03 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:01:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:01:05 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
20:01:07 THEN COUNCILMAN VIERA.
20:01:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME WATCHED ME
20:01:11 UP HERE KNOWS THAT I AM NOT AFRAID OF THREATS OR BULLYING
20:01:15 AND I AM NOT AFRAID OF LAWSUITS.
20:01:17 I STAND UP FOR THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE.
20:01:21 AND IN THIS CASE I THINK I VOTED AGAINST IT LAST TIME,
20:01:25 BUT IN THIS CASE I THINK THE PROCESS WORKED.
20:01:28 THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROCESS IS TO TAKE ANOTHER ROUND TO
20:01:31 GO BACK AND HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, COME
20:01:33 BACK AND ADAPT THE PROJECT SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE
20:01:38 COMMUNITY WANTS.
20:01:39 AND I THINK WITH A PD PROTECTIONS AND WITH THE CHANGES
20:01:43 THEY MADE, IT ANSWERS MOST OF THE CONCERNS OF THE
20:01:46 COMMUNITY, AND IT'S A REASONABLE PROJECT.
20:01:50 OTHERWISE, I WOULDN'T MAKE A MOTION OR SUPPORT IT.
20:01:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
20:01:59 I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING, WHICH IS I WAS ONE OF
20:02:02 THE FOUR THAT VOTED TO DENY THIS THE FIRST GO-AROUND.
20:02:05 NOW WE HAVE A SEQUEL.
20:02:08 IN THE SEQUEL WE SEE A CHANGE TO A PD WHICH GIVES MORE
20:02:11 CONTROL OVER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THAT REGARD.
20:02:14 SO I THINK IF I MAY SAY SO, IN SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAVE
20:02:19 COME BACK TO US WHERE CITY COUNCIL HAS DENIED AND THEN
20:02:22 THERE'S A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN WE
20:02:25 APPROVE THE MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, ONE THING I
20:02:28 LIKE TO POINT OUT IS IN MOST OF THOSE THERE ARE
20:02:30 IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE PROJECTS THAT WE DENIED.
20:02:34 SO IN THAT REGARD, I KNOW THERE'S FRUSTRATION IN A LOT OF
20:02:38 COMMUNITIES ON SOME OF THOSE APPEALS AND MEDIATED
20:02:41 SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS.
20:02:42 THERE IS PROGRESS MADE WHICH DOES, WELL IT ADOPTED
20:02:45 ADDRESS 100% OF THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY, IT DOES
20:02:49 TAKE OFF SOME OF THE MORE ACUTE EDGES, SOME OF THE MORE
20:02:54 EDGES OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND I THINK THIS IS
20:02:56 CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM.
20:02:57 I THINK BY GOING THROUGH A PD IT KIND OF KNOCKS OFF THE
20:03:00 STOOLS OR THE LEGS OF THE STOOL THAT MAYBE SOME OF US
20:03:04 USED IN OUR RATIONALE TO DENY THE PROJECT.
20:03:07 BUT AGAIN, THERE IS SOME PROGRESS MADE, THAT THE
20:03:12 FRUSTRATION IS OBVIOUSLY ACKNOWLEDGED.
20:03:14 THANK YOU.
20:03:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:03:18 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
20:03:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO APPROVE THE PROJECT.
20:03:22 I THINK IT DID WORK.
20:03:26 AND MR. DINGFELDER SAID THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
20:03:28 DISCUSSIONS, AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO LOOK AT.
20:03:40 BUT I THINK THE SUGGESTION IS RIGHT, A POSSIBLE WORKSHOP
20:03:43 AS RELATES TO THIS ISSUE.
20:03:45 AGAIN, I ALWAYS WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE PROCESS AND LET THE
20:03:50 PUBLIC SPEAK AND SAY THEY DON'T FEEL THE PROCESS IS
20:03:53 WORKING, AND WHY YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, AND I AM GOING
20:03:56 TO ASK STAFF, WHY THEY BELIEVE THE PROCESS ISN'T WORKING.
20:04:05 THAT'S WHY I ASKED STAFF TONIGHT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS?
20:04:09 AND THE MEDIATION PORTION, THE COMMUNITY FEELS THEY
20:04:15 SHOULD BE A PART OR THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO BE A PART, BUT
20:04:18 ACTUALLY NOW THE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO BE A PART OF
20:04:21 THE PROCESS.
20:04:23 SO I THINK MR. DINGFELDER IS RIGHT, IN THE FUTURE WE NEED
20:04:26 TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS HOW THIS PROCESS
20:04:29 WORKS WHEN IT GETS TO A MEDIATED PROCESS WITH THE CITY.
20:04:36 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:04:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:04:38 ANYBODY ELSE?
20:04:40 HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE.
20:04:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
20:04:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:04:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:04:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:04:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:04:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:04:52 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:04:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
20:04:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
20:04:56 NOW WE HAVE TO READ THE ORDINANCE.
20:04:58 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THE ORDINANCE?
20:05:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
20:05:02 FILE NUMBER REZ 20-01.
20:05:06 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE
20:05:09 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 111 SOUTH
20:05:13 GUNLOCK AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
20:05:16 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
20:05:18 CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD,
20:05:22 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED,
20:05:25 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND REVISION BEFORE SECOND
20:05:30 READING.
20:05:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
20:05:33 MIRANDA.
20:05:33 ROLL CALL VOTE.
20:05:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
20:05:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
20:05:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
20:05:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
20:05:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
20:05:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
20:05:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
20:05:43 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
20:05:45 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER
20:05:48 3rd AT 9:30 A.M.
20:05:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
20:05:55 THAT INCLUDES SPECIFICALLY THE REVISION SHEET CHANGES
20:05:58 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND THE MODIFICATION TO
20:06:01 ADD THE REQUIREMENT OF THE GARAGE --
20:06:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS INCLUDING THAT.
20:06:07 HOW FAR, I WILL STATE THAT, YES.
20:06:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE CONTINUE, DOES ANYBODY
20:06:13 RECOMMEND OR WISH A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
20:06:17 >> YES, PLEASE.
20:06:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO DO A FIVE-MINUTE
20:06:19 BREAK AND GO RIGHT THROUGH THE AGENDA SO WE WILL BE BACK
20:06:22 AT 8:10.
20:06:23 THANK YOU.
20:06:28 (COUNCIL RECESS)
20:17:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
20:17:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
20:17:40 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
20:17:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
20:17:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
20:17:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
20:17:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
20:17:46 ALL RIGHT.
20:17:47 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 5.
20:17:50 >> IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3112
20:18:00 AND 3116 NORTH A STREET FROM RS-50 TO RM-12.
20:18:08 I DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
20:18:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
20:18:14 MS. MALONE, YOU ARE MUTED.
20:18:19 >>JENNIFER MALONE: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
20:18:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
20:18:23 >> 20-60 IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
20:18:28 DISTRICT.
20:18:29 WE ARE AT WEST NORTH A STREET JUST NORTH OF KENNEDY
20:18:32 BOULEVARD, AND HENDERSON BOULEVARD SOUTH, WEST KENNEDY AT
20:18:38 HENDERSON BOULEVARD, COMMERCIAL BUT IT DOES TRANSITION
20:18:44 FURTHER NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE TO A MORE RESIDENTIAL
20:18:46 PATTERN.
20:19:06 (NO AUDIO)
20:19:11 >> THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
20:19:15 URBAN MIXED USE 60.
20:19:17 THIS WOULD ALLOW 43 DWELLING UNITS FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
20:19:21 THAT IS IDENTIFIED USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THE SUBJECT
20:19:26 SITE, SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS COMPATIBLE WITH
20:19:29 THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND IT WILL PROVIDE
20:19:32 TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL USE AS LONG WEST KENNEDY
20:19:34 BOULEVARD TO SINGLE-FAMILY.
20:19:38 THE DISTRICT PROVIDES -- FOR TAMPA'S POPULATION.
20:19:44 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WITH ACCESS TO
20:19:47 TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT, AND ACCORDING TO THE TAMPA
20:19:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES.
20:19:54 IT IS URBAN MIXED USE 60 THAT ALLOWS FOR UP TO 60
20:19:58 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS
20:20:02 BELOW CONSIDERED ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
20:20:05 THE INTERSECTION AT KENNEDY AND HENDERSON.
20:20:07 AS WE CAN SEE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT DOES
20:20:10 TRANSITION A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH ON THE BLOCK HERE.
20:20:15 JUST TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT FOR THE INTERSECTION, BUT
20:20:19 AGAIN, THIS IS URBAN MIXED USE 60 IN THE PURPLE AND
20:20:23 RESIDENTIAL 10 WHICH IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TYPICALLY.
20:20:28 SO WE DID FIND THIS REQUEST CONSISTENT.
20:20:31 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
20:20:33 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
20:20:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
20:20:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:20:38 MS. MALONE OR MARY, DID WE HAVE THIS REZONING IN FRONT OF
20:20:46 US LAST YEAR ON THE SAME EXACT PARCEL?
20:20:50 AND IF SO, OKAY.
20:20:55 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I DON'T HAVE THAT REQUEST BEFORE ME
20:20:58 BUT I KNOW IT DID COME BEFORE YOU IN 2019.
20:21:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
20:21:03 I WILL HAVE MARY TALK TO US ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
20:21:05 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
20:21:06 >> NO PROBLEM.
20:21:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:21:09 APPLICANT?
20:21:10 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CAN I MAKE MY PRESENTATION?
20:21:13 THANK YOU.
20:21:15 MARY SAMANIEGO.
20:21:16 AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3112 AND 3116 NORTH A
20:21:22 STREET, EUCLIDEAN REZONING SO THE REQUEST IS FROM RS-50
20:21:26 TO BE REZONED TO RM-12.
20:21:30 THE 32,000 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY IS LOCATED 3 BLOCKS TO
20:21:33 THE EAST OF THE WEST NORTH A STREET, NORTH MATANZAS
20:21:42 AVENUE INTERSECTION, DETACHED AND FAMILY RESIDENCE
20:21:47 CONSTRUCTED IN 1986, SURROUNDED BY DETACHED RESIDENCES TO
20:21:51 THE WEST AND NORTH, IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT,
20:21:57 COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EAST AND SOUTH IN CG ZONING
20:22:01 DISTRICT.
20:22:01 THE PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY
20:22:05 SUBJECT TO STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 27-1241.
20:22:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:22:13 ANY QUESTIONS?
20:22:15 >> I CAN'T SPEAK AND USE THIS AT THE SAME TIME
20:22:25 UNFORTUNATELY.
20:22:25 THE ZONING MAP ON THE ELMO FOR YOUR REVIEW, AGAIN IT'S
20:22:30 HALF A BLOCK NORTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
20:22:32 ALL OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
20:22:36 THIS PROPERTY IS REQUESTING TO BE REZONED TO RM-12,
20:22:40 COMMERCIAL GENERAL ON TWO OF THE FOUR SIDES OF THIS
20:22:43 SUBJECT PROPERTY.
20:22:49 MR. DINGFELDER, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THAT YOU HAD
20:22:51 ASKED, THIS SITE WAS THE SUBJECT OF A DENIED APPLICATION
20:22:56 REZ 19-07.
20:22:58 THEY WERE ASKING TO BE REZONED TO RM-16.
20:23:01 THE CURRENT REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO BE REZONED TO RM-12.
20:23:06 SO THAT'S LESS OF A DENSITY THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING
20:23:09 TODAY.
20:23:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S WHAT?
20:23:12 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: LESS DENSITY.
20:23:14 THEY WERE ASKING TO GO TO RM-16 WHICH IS 16 PER ACRE NOW.
20:23:18 THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO RM-12 WHICH IS 12 DWELLING UNITS
20:23:21 PER ACRE.
20:23:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO UNITS ON THIS
20:23:24 PARTICULAR PARCEL?
20:23:26 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: IF THIS APPLICATION WERE TO BE
20:23:29 APPROVED A MAXIMUM OF 8 DWELLING UNITS COULD BE
20:23:31 CONSTRUCTED UNDER THE CURRENT CODE OF THE RM-12.
20:23:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE LAST TIME?
20:23:36 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I DON'T HAVE THAT CALCULATION WITH ME.
20:23:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:23:45 COUNCIL DEFINITIVELY OBJECTED TO MULTIFAMILY PROJECT ON
20:23:49 THIS SAME PARCEL A YEAR AGO?
20:23:52 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION TO RM-16 WAS
20:23:54 DENIED.
20:23:59 THE REZ 19-107 WAS ONE OF THE PARCELS, TWO PARCELS THAT'S
20:24:09 UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.
20:24:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:24:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
20:24:17 DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?
20:24:19 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, IT DOES.
20:24:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:24:25 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, SIR?
20:24:26 I KNOW YOU WERE OUTSIDE, CORRECT?
20:24:29 >> NO, WAYS INSIDE.
20:24:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
20:24:31 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
20:24:32 >> I WOULD LIKE TO USE THE ELMO.
20:24:39 KEVIN REALI, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET FOR THE APPLICANT.
20:24:43 I ALSO HAVE PRINTED COPIES OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WENT
20:24:46 STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER TO MY SANITIZED HANDS.
20:24:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
20:25:07 A SIMILAR REQUEST WAS BROUGHT ON THE PROPERTY IN 2019 AS
20:25:12 RECENTLY DISCUSSED.
20:25:13 THE KEY POINT OF THE PRESENTATION THAT I AM GOING TO
20:25:15 FOCUS ON HERE, SO I WILL GO THROUGH QUICKLY SINCE WE HAVE
20:25:18 ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT COUNCIL HAS SEEN MUCH OF THIS
20:25:21 BEFORE, BUT STARTING WITH THE BLOCK COMPOSITION, THE
20:25:24 REASON WHY I USE THE ELMO HERE IS TO POINT OUT SOME OF
20:25:27 THE IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BLOCK ITSELF.
20:25:30 SO THERE'S A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE HERE, AND THERE'S A
20:25:34 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE HERE.
20:25:35 THE REMAINDER OF THE BLOCK IS COMMERCIAL.
20:25:37 AND SO PUT THAT INTO A COLOR CODING HERE, YOU CAN SEE
20:25:41 THAT ALL OF THE BRIGHT YELLOW IS COMMERCIAL, TWO
20:25:46 SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50 LOTS ARE HERE AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT
20:25:49 PROPERTY THAT'S REQUESTING TO GO TO RM-12.
20:25:54 THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY IS A RATHER INTENSE
20:25:57 CATEGORY.
20:25:58 WE ARE NOT SEEKING TO GET MUCH OF THE AVAILABLE DENSITY
20:26:02 FROM THIS CATEGORY.
20:26:03 HOWEVER, IT IS NOTE WORTH THAT THIS IS AT THE
20:26:07 INTERSECTION OF KENNEDY AND HENDERSON AND THAT THIS IS A
20:26:11 DELIBERATE CHANGE IN THE MAP TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXTRA
20:26:14 INTENSITY AT THIS INTERSECTION.
20:26:17 IN THE EXISTING ZONING HERE, RS-50, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL
20:26:20 GENERAL ON TWO SIDES BUT THEN THE COMPOSITION OF THE
20:26:23 BLOCK HAS SHOWN IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL.
20:26:26 TESTIMONY AT THE LAST HEARING CAME PRIMARILY FROM OAKFORD
20:26:29 PARK.
20:26:30 WE RESPECT SOME TESTIMONY FROM THOSE NEIGHBORS TODAY.
20:26:32 AND THE DISCUSSION THERE WAS HOW THE MAKEUP OF THE
20:26:34 NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH IS PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY
20:26:37 DETACHED RESIDENTIAL.
20:26:38 WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO THE NORTH, IT IS PRIMARILY
20:26:41 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL.
20:26:42 HOWEVER, THE COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY GOES BOTH
20:26:46 WAYS, AND WE SEE THAT.
20:26:48 BUT THIS PROPERTY ON ONE SIDE HAS A HEAVY COMMERCIAL -- I
20:26:52 SHOULDN'T SAY HEAVY COMMERCIAL, A LARGE COMMERCIAL AREA
20:26:56 OF USE TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE NORTH.
20:26:59 AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS LOW, MEDIUM,
20:27:04 MULTIFAMILY DENSITY TO ACT AS TRANSITIONAL USE.
20:27:10 THE ONLY THING TO NOTE HERE THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN
20:27:13 DISCUSSED IS 8 UNITS ARE ALLOWED BUT ALSO THIS IS THE
20:27:16 MINIMUM DENSITY THAT CAN BE REQUESTED IN THIS LAND USE
20:27:19 CATEGORY.
20:27:19 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THIS CONSISTENT.
20:27:22 LAND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE
20:27:24 LEC.
20:27:26 THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION WAS DENIED BASED ON POLICIES
20:27:30 9.1.2, 9.1.3 WHICH I BELIEVE WAS OBJECTIVE 9.3 IN DESIGN.
20:27:37 IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE THAT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY
20:27:40 DESIGN ELEMENTS TO THIS AS EUCLIDEAN AND WE ALSO HAVE
20:27:44 REDUCED THE REQUEST TO RM-12 SO THAT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER
20:27:48 OF UNITS THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED IS 8 WHICH IS THE MINIMUM
20:27:50 THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY ALLOWS.
20:27:54 OF NOTE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING STAFF THAT EXPERT
20:27:57 STAFF REPORTED 11 LAND USE OBJECTIVES SUPPORTED BY THE
20:28:01 APPLICATION AND 16 LAND USE POLICIES BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
20:28:04 FOR THE PURPOSES HERE, THE POLICIES MENTIONED AND
20:28:10 MENTIONED IN THE DENIAL IN 2019 ARE BOTH SHONE IN THE
20:28:12 STAFF REPORT AS CONSISTENT BASED ON THOSE SAME POLICIES.
20:28:22 1.2.8 PROMOTES MIXED USE HOUSING WITH A VARIETY OF
20:28:26 HOUSING OPTIONS WHICH WOULD SUPPORT THE COMPREHENSIVE
20:28:29 PLAN VERY WELL IN THIS TRANSITIONAL USE AREA.
20:28:37 THE ZONING REQUEST IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
20:28:39 ZONING AND THE MINIMUM THAT CAN BE REQUESTED ON THIS.
20:28:41 AND SO THIS IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVISION THAT
20:28:44 IDENTIFIES THAT.
20:28:45 SO FOR COMPATIBILITY PURPOSES, IT'S POSSIBLE FOR RS-50 TO
20:28:50 EXIST HERE, BUT FOR REZONING PURPOSES, THE RM-12 REZONING
20:28:55 IS THE MINIMUM THAT CAN BE REQUESTED IN UMU 60. SO THIS
20:28:59 MAKES THIS REALLY UNIQUE, AND I JUST HEARD COUNCIL HAVE A
20:29:02 LONG DISCUSSION WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT AND DISCUSS
20:29:05 SIMILAR EUCLIDEAN REZONINGS AND I KNOW THAT EUCLIDEAN
20:29:08 REZONING WAS AN ISSUE BE YOU WHEN THIS WAS HEARD IN 2019.
20:29:12 THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THE REQUEST IS MORE CONSISTENT
20:29:15 THAN WHAT EXISTS THERE TODAY.
20:29:18 AND SO WHEREAS THE REZONING IS OFTEN THE PURPOSES THAT
20:29:22 GET A HIGHER AND BETTER USE OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S NOT
20:29:25 OFTEN THAT THE ZONING REQUESTED IS MORE CONSISTENT.
20:29:29 AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
20:29:33 MASSING AND BULK WAS A CONCERN AT THE LAST HEARING.
20:29:35 THE MASSING AND BULK OF RM-12 AND RS-50 ARE IDENTICAL.
20:29:41 50-FOOT MINIMUM LOCALITY AREA, SIDE SETBACK, BUILDING
20:29:44 HEIGHT ARE IDENTICAL.
20:29:45 THE SETBACKS ARE DIFFERENT.
20:29:47 BUT WHAT WE HAVE IN RM-12 IS A LARGER FRONT SETBACK AND
20:29:51 SMALLER REAR SETBACK WHEREAS THE BUILDABLE AREA IS
20:29:54 EXACTLY THE SAME.
20:29:55 THE FRONT SETBACK IS HIGHER IN RM-12 WHICH MEANS THE
20:29:58 SETBACK WILL BE FURTHER FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY
20:30:01 RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND CLOSER TO THE COMMERCIAL
20:30:04 WHICH WOULD ALSO MAKE THIS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE
20:30:06 SURROUNDING ZONING AND LAND USES.
20:30:15 TALKING MASSING IF YOU ARE STANDING AT THE SUBJECT
20:30:17 PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH THIS IS YOUR VIEW.
20:30:18 SO THE AREA IS PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TO THE
20:30:21 NORTH.
20:30:21 HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN SLOWLY REDEVELOPING.
20:30:24 AND SO THE MASSING YOU HAVE HERE IS LARGER THAN 30 BY 100
20:30:29 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A 50-FOOT LOT WHICH HAS MASSING
20:30:32 WHICH LOOKS SIMILAR TO TOWNHOMES.
20:30:35 WE SLIDE OVER SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST, AND WE LOOK NORTH ON
20:30:38 THAT BLOCK.
20:30:38 YOU CAN SEE THAT ENTIRE BLOCK HAS BEEN REDEVELOPED ON THE
20:30:41 WEST SIDE, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE MASSING OF THOSE
20:30:43 STRUCTURES WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH A LOW MEDIUM
20:30:48 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
20:30:51 IF YOU PAN TO THE RIGHT SLIGHTLY YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE
20:30:54 STREET.
20:30:54 NOW THESE ARE THE EXISTING HOMES.
20:30:56 THEY ARE SMALLER SCALE.
20:30:57 SMALLER MASS.
20:30:58 HOWEVER, THOSE ARE THE OLDER HOMES.
20:31:00 AND SO THE IMMEDIATE REZONING -- EXCUSE ME, THE IMMEDIATE
20:31:03 LOTS NEAR THE REZONING ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CHANGING
20:31:08 TREND OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE LARGER
20:31:12 MASS STRUCTURES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE IMMEDIATE
20:31:14 NEIGHBORS ACROSS NORTH A STREET.
20:31:17 THIS IS JUST TO IDENTIFY THE COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EAST.
20:31:22 AGAIN, WANT TO REEMPHASIZE HERE THE COMPATIBILITY IS TO
20:31:26 THE ENTIRE AREA.
20:31:27 AND SO WE EXPECT TO HEAR EVIDENCE FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT
20:31:31 THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH THE
20:31:34 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
20:31:35 BUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS A TRANSITIONAL USE
20:31:38 BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, THE HEAVY
20:31:40 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AT KENNEDY AT THE INTERSECTION OF
20:31:43 HENDERSON THAT THEN SHIFTS TO SINGLE-FAMILY.
20:31:49 ANOTHER VERY BIG CONCERN OF THE OPPONENTS THAT WE HAVE
20:31:52 HEARD IS THE DEER CREEK.
20:31:55 WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING TODAY IS NOT POSSIBLE ANYWHERE
20:31:57 ELSE IN OAKFORD PARK EXCEPT FOR THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY
20:32:00 JUST TO THE SOUTHWEST AND THEN A COUPLE DOWN TO THE EAST.
20:32:04 EVERYTHING ELSE IN OAKFORD PARK IS R-10, AND AS THIS
20:32:08 BOARD KNOWS, THAT WILL REQUIRE A LAND USE CHANGE.
20:32:11 A LAND USE CHANGE AS COUNCIL ALSO KNOWS REQUIRES THAT A
20:32:17 LEGISLATIVE ACTION BE TAKEN.
20:32:19 TODAY WE ARE UNDER THE QUASI-JUDICIAL STANDARD.
20:32:21 THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION WOULD GIVE THIS COUNCIL THE POWER
20:32:24 IN MOST CIRCUMSTANCES TO DENY AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE
20:32:28 THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.
20:32:30 WE ARE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE
20:32:33 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:32:33 WE ARE ASKING TO BUILD SOMETHING MORE CONSISTENT THAN
20:32:35 WHAT EXISTS TODAY, AND WE ARE ASKING TO DO THAT UNDER THE
20:32:39 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN TAMPA.
20:32:45 AND THE ONLY WAY FOR THAT CREEK TO CHANGE WOULD BE FOR
20:32:49 THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION.
20:32:52 THERE IS ALSO A REQUEST WHY ISN'T THIS A PLANNED
20:32:55 DEVELOPMENT?
20:32:56 THESE ARE FOUR STANDARD RECTANGULAR 50-FOOT LOTS.
20:32:59 IT'S NOT COMMON TO SUGGEST THAT A PD IS NOT COMPATIBLE
20:33:05 ROUTE BUT YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS THAT P IS FOR
20:33:07 UNIQUE CONDITIONS, DESIGN EXCEPTIONS OR MIX OF USES.
20:33:10 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO MIX THE USES PROPERLY.
20:33:13 WE ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY DESIGN FLEXIBILITY.
20:33:15 WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW BUFFERS, SETBACKS, PARKING,
20:33:18 EVERYTHING THAT THE CODE REQUIRES IN EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
20:33:24 THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ALSO SAYS THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT
20:33:26 WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE PROVIDED OR ALLOWED UNDER GENERAL
20:33:30 ZONING DISTRICTS ARE THE TYPE OF SITE PLAN REZONING
20:33:33 DISTRICTS, OR SITE PLAN REZONING APPLICATIONS.
20:33:36 IN THIS SITUATION, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING
20:33:38 SPECIAL.
20:33:39 WE ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED
20:33:42 UNDER THE RM-12, AND THAT WILL BE THE INTENT IS TO BUILD
20:33:46 FOUR DUPLEXES.
20:33:48 THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME TO PASS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
20:33:51 REENGAGE WITH THE BUILDER AFTER THE PROVE DENIAL SO WE
20:33:53 ARE NOT GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE THAT WOULD
20:33:58 CHANGE.
20:33:58 BUT ANYTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE WOULD STILL BE CONSISTENT,
20:34:01 COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S AROUND BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN BUILT
20:34:04 RECENTLY AND WHAT EXISTS TO THE SOUTH.
20:34:08 THE CONCLUSION OVERALL, THERE'S EXPERT TESTIMONY FROM
20:34:11 YOUR STAFF OF COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY.
20:34:14 THERE'S EXTRA TESTIMONY THAT IDENTIFIES THE REASONS BY
20:34:16 THE PREVIOUS DENIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS APPLICATION.
20:34:19 EVIDENCE FROM THE LDC AND PICTURES THAT SHOW THE MASSING
20:34:22 OF WHAT'S NEARBY.
20:34:24 EVIDENCE OF A PROPER TRANSITIONAL USE AND EVIDENCE THAT A
20:34:28 PD REZONING WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.
20:34:30 AND AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, CREEP WOULD REQUIRE ACTION BY
20:34:36 THIS COUNCIL.
20:34:37 ACTUALLY AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO --
20:34:45 I WOULD LIKE TO QUESTION MS. MALONE.
20:34:47 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I'M AVAILABLE.
20:34:53 >> IS THE REQUESTED ZONING OF RM-12 MORE CONSISTENT THAN
20:34:57 THE ZONING OF RS-50 FOR THE SUBJECT SITE?
20:35:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS MORE AND
20:35:07 GETTING CLOSER TO THE LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, NOT
20:35:11 JUST UNDER THE URBAN MIXED USE.
20:35:13 >> THANK YOU.
20:35:17 I'LL SAVE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING BURDEN SHIFT FOR
20:35:21 REBUTTAL AND ASK COUNCIL IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
20:35:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:35:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
20:35:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:35:36 AND I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME.
20:35:38 I KNOW WE HAVE MET BEFORE.
20:35:40 >> KEVIN REALI.
20:35:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO BE 100%
20:35:46 CLEAR.
20:35:46 RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE GOT FOUR LOTS ON THIS PARCEL,
20:35:52 CORRECT?
20:35:53 >> CORRECT.
20:35:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:35:55 AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS RS-50.
20:35:59 >> CORRECT.
20:36:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:36:02 THE PAGE THAT YOU HAD UP -- AND MAYBE YOU CAN PUT IT UP
20:36:07 AGAIN.
20:36:07 >> YES, SIR.
20:36:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S THE GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE COMP
20:36:13 PLAN, UMU.
20:36:17 THERE IT IS.
20:36:18 >> THE COMP PLAN MAP?
20:36:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS ONE HERE.
20:36:22 >> THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
20:36:25 SO THIS IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE INTERPRETING THE
20:36:28 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:36:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
20:36:31 I THOUGHT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, WHICH I WANT TO MAKE SURE
20:36:34 WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, KEVIN, IS THAT THE RS-50 IS
20:36:38 INCONSISTENT WITH THE UMU 60, AND YOU KNOW THAT SOMEHOW
20:36:44 OR OTHER THE CITY IS FORCING YOU TO HAVE IT REZONED,
20:36:50 OKAY?
20:36:51 AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE AND I AM SURE THAT'S
20:36:54 NOT WHAT YOU MEANT.
20:36:57 YOU HAVE A CATEGORY THAT TODAY YOU COULD BUILD FOUR
20:37:00 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, CORRECT?
20:37:01 >> CORRECT.
20:37:02 AND IF I COULD, MR. DINGFELDER --
20:37:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOUR POINT WAS THAT PERHAPS UNDER
20:37:08 THE COMP PLAN, THERE'S A MORE DESIRABLE CATEGORY, THE
20:37:14 RM-12 OR THE RM-16, AND MS. MALONE SPOKE TO THAT IN TERMS
20:37:19 OF THE UMU 60 BEING AT HIGHER DENSITY.
20:37:22 BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD AND
20:37:25 ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE LOOKING AT IT IN THE FUTURE THAT
20:37:28 YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOT TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND
20:37:31 BUILD FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES RIGHT NOW.
20:37:33 >> CORRECT.
20:37:34 SO WHAT THE INTENT OF MY TESTIMONY WAS TO REFLECT THERE
20:37:38 WAS THAT THE ZONING REQUEST IS MORE CONSISTENT, AND IF I
20:37:41 WAS HERE REQUESTING THE SAME PROPERTY TO BECOME RS-50,
20:37:46 THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAID THAT THAT REZONING IS TO
20:37:49 BE DISCOURAGED.
20:37:50 SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT WHAT'S CALLING OUT THE
20:37:53 DISCUSSION; IT'S THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SIR.
20:37:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:37:58 AND ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I SCRIBBLED DOWN HERE.
20:38:03 LET ME SEE.
20:38:08 OH, THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD BE HERE WITH
20:38:11 A PD OR NOT.
20:38:13 >> YES, SIR.
20:38:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE IS MY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
20:38:19 YOU SAID IT'S OUR INTENT TO BUILD FOUR, YOU KNOW,
20:38:24 DUPLEXES THAT WOULD HAVE SPACE BETWEEN EACH ONE.
20:38:29 YOU WOULD HAVE A 50-FOOT LOT, 5 OR 7 FEET ON EITHER SIDE
20:38:34 BEFORE YOU GET TO THE NEXT SET OF TOWN HOME DUPLEXES.
20:38:37 AND YOU SHOWED SO PICTURES OF IT, RIGHT?
20:38:40 >> NO, SIR, THAT'S THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IN THE
20:38:42 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:38:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SHOWED SOME PICTURES SOME OF
20:38:45 NEIGHBORS ON NORTH A THAT HAVE THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
20:38:48 >> SO THOSE NEIGHBORS, THEY ARE ACROSS NORTH A AND GOING
20:38:52 UP WOODLAND, YES, SIR.
20:38:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
20:38:55 NEARBY.
20:38:57 BUT MY POINT IS, BECAUSE YOU ARE COMING IN EUCLIDEAN WITH
20:39:00 YOUR RM 12, YOU COULD BUILD THIS, IF IT WAS APPROVED, YOU
20:39:04 COULD BUILD THIS AS A SINGLE MONOLITHIC BUILDING, RIGHT,
20:39:09 WITH EIGHT UNITS IN IT, WITHOUT ANY BREAK WHATSOEVER IN
20:39:13 TERMS OF THE MASS OF THE BUILDING.
20:39:16 IS THAT CORRECT?
20:39:17 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
20:39:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF A PD.
20:39:21 BECAUSE AT LEAST THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE
20:39:23 GETTING.
20:39:24 >> YES, SIR, BUT YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS THAT A
20:39:27 PD IS FOR SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S --
20:39:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TURN DO I KNOW
20:39:32 YOUR APPLICATION FOR A PD ON THAT BASIS.
20:39:36 THEY ACCEPT AND VIRTUALLY ANYBODY WHO COMES IN WITH A PD
20:39:40 REQUEST.
20:39:40 THE PD IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE AND MORE TIME CONSUMING.
20:39:44 THANK YOU.
20:39:45 >> YES, SIR.
20:39:46 BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT'S ALSO NOT EVIDENCE TO DENY A
20:39:51 EUCLIDEAN REZONING BASED ON THAT.
20:39:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:39:56 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT
20:40:00 THIS TIME FOR THE APPLICANT?
20:40:02 HEARING NONE, WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
20:40:06 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
20:40:08 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 5?
20:40:11 IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS
20:40:15 WALL THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 5?
20:40:20 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
20:40:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:40:24 THANK YOU.
20:40:25 I BELIEVE WE HAVE FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS?
20:40:28 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
20:40:28 AND WE ALSO RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
20:40:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN BRING SOME OF THOSE
20:40:33 REGISTERED SPEAKERS, WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN THREE AT A TIME
20:40:36 OR WHATEVER FITS.
20:40:38 >> HELLO.
20:40:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, JUST A MOMENT.
20:41:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I DO WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE MR. JOHN
20:41:08 SAMAHA.
20:41:10 WE HAVE YOU ON BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE VIDEO CAPABILITY.
20:41:13 >> WELL, I AM ON MY PHONE SO I'M NOT SURE WHY NOT.
20:41:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
20:41:28 JUST FOR YOUR BENEFIT, SIR, AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
20:41:31 PUBLIC, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE FORUM, GO TO MEETING
20:41:41 OR GO TO WEBINAR, IT DOES NOT ALLOW THE USE OF A SMART
20:41:44 PHONE, AND THOSE ARE SET FORTH IN THE REQUIREMENTS
20:41:50 PROVIDED IN THE INSTRUCTIONS.
20:41:53 AND TAMPAGOV.NET/CITY COUNCIL.
20:41:57 AND UNFORTUNATELY, FOR LEGAL REASONS, THE DETERMINATION
20:42:00 HAS BEEN MADE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE
20:42:02 VIRTUALLY, WE DO NEED TO HAVE VIDEO CAPABILITY IN ORDER
20:42:06 FOR US TO TAKE YOUR TESTIMONY, SIR.
20:42:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, SO WE HAVE ASHLEY KAUFMAN,
20:42:13 ANDREW AND MS. ECHEVARRIA.
20:42:17 DO YOU HAVE A MICROPHONE HOOKED UP NOW?
20:42:19 >> YES.
20:42:20 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
20:42:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
20:42:22 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR ALL THREE OF YOU IN, IF YOU COULD
20:42:24 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:42:25 >> I HAVE A SITUATION.
20:42:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, NO PROBLEM.
20:42:41 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:42:42 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
20:42:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE BEGIN WITH ASHLEY, ANDREW, AND
20:42:51 THEN MS. ECHEVARRIA.
20:42:54 ASHLEY, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
20:42:55 >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
20:42:57 SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.
20:43:01 I KNOW WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND
20:43:05 NEIGHBORHOODS MOST RECENTLY IN THE LAST AGENDA ITEM.
20:43:09 SO I WON'T HARP TOO MUCH ON THAT.
20:43:11 BUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, I MOVED INTO OUR BEAUTIFUL
20:43:14 HOME, ACTUALLY THAT HE PROVIDED, A BLUE HOME, THE THIRD
20:43:25 ONE, WHICH WE ARE ALL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
20:43:27 WE MOVED IN EARLY THIS SIMPLE -- SUMMER AND ONE OF THE
20:43:31 REASONS WE CHOSE THIS AREA IS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE
20:43:33 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
20:43:34 WE ACTUALLY LIVED IN THE 33629 AREA, AND UNFORTUNATELY
20:43:37 THERE WERE A LOT OF MIXED AREAS, A DUPLEX NEXT DOOR, AND
20:43:41 AS A YOUNG COUPLE LOOKING TO GROW OUR FAMILY, WE WANTED
20:43:44 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SAFETY.
20:43:47 SO I WANTED TO CALL OUT ABOUT MR. REALI'S PRESENTATION.
20:43:56 I KNOW THIS DOESN'T REPRESENT NECESSARILY A LEGAL
20:43:56 HEARING, BUT THE COMPONENTS THAT HE PRESENTED, THE SOUTH
20:43:59 IS ACTUALLY ALL COMMERCIAL BUT 150 FEET NORTH WHICH I
20:44:03 BELIEVE IS WHERE THE PLAN MAY BE TAKING PLACE AND PEOPLE
20:44:06 MIGHT END UP IN A DUPLEX PERSPECTIVE IS ACTUALLY ALL
20:44:09 RESIDENTIAL.
20:44:10 AND BY 150 FEET THAT'S MY FRONT DOOR TO THE WHERE THE
20:44:14 PROPERTY LINE IS. I THINK THE BIGGEST COMPONENT ON
20:44:16 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU MENTIONED IT SPECIFICALLY, THE
20:44:19 BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I HAVE AS A RESIDENTIAL MEMBER OF THE
20:44:23 NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT THERE ARE NO PLANS.
20:44:26 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PLANS ARE IN GENERAL.
20:44:29 THEY CHANGED MULTIPLE TIMES SINCE LAST HEARING.
20:44:32 THEY HAVE MOVED FROM IT COULD BE FOUR DUPLEXES WITH EIGHT
20:44:36 UNITS.
20:44:36 IT COULD BE LESS THAN THAT.
20:44:38 IT COULD BE SOME SORT OF VARIATION.
20:44:40 SO I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR SOMEONE LIVING IN THIS
20:44:43 AREA, A YOUNG COUPLE, LOOKING TO RAISE OUR FAMILY ON A
20:44:47 NICE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DON'T REALLY SEE OUR
20:44:50 NEIGHBORHOOD RUNNING NORTH -- SOUTH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE
20:44:54 MUCH TRAFFIC COMING FROM KENNEDY, OR MacDILL, WHERE
20:44:58 WE ARE LOCATED.
20:44:59 WHAT ARE THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS GOING TO BE?
20:45:01 WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE?
20:45:04 BECAUSE BASED ON THE PRESENTATION THE ENTRANCE IS NORTH,
20:45:07 NOT KENNEDY LIKE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AS SHOWN.
20:45:10 SO AGAIN, JUST SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THESE DUPLEXES
20:45:13 WOULD BE WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE PEOPLE IN
20:45:15 THIS AREA OAKFORD PARK TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEVELOPERS
20:45:20 AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN THIS PROPERTY ARE TRYING TO
20:45:23 ACHIEVE.
20:45:23 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:45:25 I AM HERE.
20:45:26 I WILL STAY ON IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MYSELF.
20:45:29 AGAIN I AM 160 FEET, 204 NORTH WOODLAND AVENUE, ASHLEY
20:45:33 KAUFMAN.
20:45:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:45:36 NEXT UP.
20:45:37 YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
20:45:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:45:40 MRS. KAUFMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
20:45:44 QUICK QUESTION.
20:45:47 YOU HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
20:45:49 HOW LONG?
20:45:50 >> JUST UNDER A FEW MONTHS.
20:45:53 WE MOVED IN IN AUGUST.
20:45:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS,
20:45:57 AND EVEN BEFORE THAT, I GUESS, YOU HAVE HAD AN
20:45:59 OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
20:46:03 >> YES, SIR.
20:46:04 THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE CHOSE TO
20:46:07 PURCHASE IN THIS AREA.
20:46:09 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT UNIQUE
20:46:12 BECAUSE IN TAMPA IS UNIQUE IN THEIR OWN WAY BUT FOR US,
20:46:17 MY HUSBAND IS A TAMPA NATIVE.
20:46:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY.
20:46:21 SO MY QUESTION IS IN REGARD TO THE CHARACTER OF YOUR
20:46:24 NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF BEING SINGLE-FAMILY
20:46:27 NEIGHBORHOOD, MOSTLY DETACHED.
20:46:31 I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS?
20:46:33 YOUR MOUTH BUT TELL ME IF I AM RIGHT OR WRONG.
20:46:36 SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, MOSTLY DETACHED HOMES.
20:46:40 I GUESS ON INDICATION THERE MIGHT BE SOME ATTACHED UNITS,
20:46:43 BUT THEY ARE JUST A DUPLEX IN A TOWN HOME FORM.
20:46:51 IS THAT CORRECT?
20:46:52 MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY?
20:46:53 >> NOT ON MY BLOCK.
20:46:55 I KNOW THE AREA IS 85% SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WITH
20:46:58 MULTI-UNIT.
20:46:59 I BELIEVE IT'S EIGHT.
20:47:00 A TOTAL OF EIGHT.
20:47:02 AND THAT IS NOWHERE NEAR ME.
20:47:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN ARE YOU AWARE OR FAMILIAR WITH
20:47:10 ANY BUILDINGS THAT MIGHT BE LARGER, IN THIS CASE
20:47:15 POTENTIALLY FOUR UNITS TOGETHER OR EIGHT UNITS TOGETHER?
20:47:20 IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD?
20:47:22 >> NOT AT ALL, SIR.
20:47:24 MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE ABOUT 8 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WITH
20:47:28 TWO ADDITIONAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AT THE NORTH END OF
20:47:32 NORTH WOODLAND BEING BUILT, WHICH IS A NICE WELCOME, AND
20:47:37 THE SMALLER SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ACROSS THE STREET, MY
20:47:40 ENTIRE STREET DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY LINE ARE
20:47:44 ALL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, NO MULTI-UNIT FAMILY, NO
20:47:47 ATTACHED DUPLEXES.
20:47:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
20:47:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:47:50 NEXT SPEAKER IS ANDREW.
20:47:53 YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. GO AHEAD.
20:47:54 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
20:47:55 >> ANDREW AUBERY: AND YOU ARE MUTED.
20:48:03 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
20:48:04 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
20:48:07 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF OAKFORD PARK AND I HEARD NUMEROUS
20:48:10 COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS REZONING.
20:48:12 LAST YEAR WE WERE BEFORE YOU GUYS.
20:48:14 WE BROUGHT ALL OF OUR OBJECTIONS, AND YOU GUYS REJECTED
20:48:17 THIS.
20:48:17 OUR MAIN COMPLAINT HERE, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE MY
20:48:20 SCREEN, IF I MAY.
20:48:22 WE PUT THE GIS SYSTEM.
20:48:24 85% OF OUR COMMUNITY IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
20:48:28 WE ARE SURROUNDED, OUR BORDER SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL.
20:48:31 SO OF COURSE IT'S SKEWED A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF
20:48:35 YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO SEE IT.
20:48:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
20:48:37 >> A TOTAL PARCEL OF 758 PARCELS, 648 OF THOSE ARE
20:48:43 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
20:48:44 OKAY.
20:48:45 WE REALLY TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS DOES NOT FIT THE FABRIC
20:48:49 OF OUR COMMUNITY, OKAY?
20:48:50 AND SO THE POINT THAT THEY WERE MAKING, OH, IT'S
20:48:56 COMMERCIAL, AND IT'S GOING TO HELP TRANSITION, WELL,
20:48:59 THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE AS YOU MENTIONED ON THAT BLOCK THAT
20:49:02 ALREADY HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
20:49:04 WHY ARE THEY SO OPPOSED TO JUST BUILDING FOUR
20:49:07 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES?
20:49:08 A FEW OF THESE BLOCKS HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR YEARS, AND
20:49:11 THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO BUILD ANYTHING UNTIL NOW.
20:49:15 AND WE REALLY AGAIN TRULY BELIEVE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
20:49:18 IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME COMMUNITY.
20:49:20 WE DON'T -- WE HAVE ASKED THE DEVELOPER MULTIPLE TIMES TO
20:49:23 PROVIDE US WITH PLANS, AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD?
20:49:28 ARE THESE GOING TO BE RENTALS?
20:49:30 ARE THESE GOING TO BE OWNED UNITS?
20:49:32 THEY DO NOT PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION WHATSOEVER TO HELP
20:49:34 US.
20:49:34 ONLY LAST WEEK, ONLY LAST WEEK, THE FIRST TIME IN A YEAR
20:49:38 THAT THE ATTORNEY REACHED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I WANT
20:49:42 TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, OKAY?
20:49:43 IT'S A LITTLE LATE IN THE GAME.
20:49:45 MOST PEOPLE COME TO US EARLY IN THE CONVERSATION, WE CAN
20:49:48 HAVE A NICE CONVERSATION WITH ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE CAN
20:49:51 COME TO COUNCIL AND SUPPORT A PROJECT.
20:49:53 BUT IT'S HARD FOR US TO SUPPORT A PROJECT HERE THAT WE
20:49:56 KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT, AND QUITE FRANKLY FEELS LIKE THEY
20:50:00 ARE HIDING SOMETHING.
20:50:02 IT'S THE SECOND TIME THEY HAVE COME BEFORE YOU AND WE ASK
20:50:06 COUNCIL TO REJECT THIS PROJECT ON THE BASIS THAT IT DOES
20:50:08 NOT FIT OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, AND
20:50:12 WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT JUST BECAUSE THE MAP CHANGED OVER
20:50:16 THE YEARS THAT THE DAYS FOR, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT,
20:50:21 COMPLIANCE, IF IT WERE REZONED TODAY, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT
20:50:24 IT IS.
20:50:24 THE GENTLEMAN THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR SHOULD BE SPEAKING.
20:50:28 IF HE HASN'T, I NOTICE SENT AN E-MAIL.
20:50:31 HE'S TOTALLY AGAINST THIS PROJECT AND HIS HOME IS RIGHT
20:50:33 NEXT DOOR TO THIS AND A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
20:50:35 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:50:37 AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO.
20:50:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:50:41 NEXT UP, MS. ECHEVARRIA.
20:50:57 >> YES.
20:50:58 NOW I HAVE VOICE.
20:50:59 WE HAVE SECOND GENERATION PEOPLE COMING IN, ALL THESE
20:51:01 YOUNG PEOPLE.
20:51:02 AND THEY ARE LOVING IT AND COME WITH KIDS AND THEY PLAY,
20:51:08 AND THEY HAVE DOGS, THEY ALL WALK DOGS.
20:51:11 IT'S GREAT.
20:51:12 IT'S NOT LIKE IT SEEMS FROM THE FIRST GENTLEMAN'S
20:51:17 DESCRIPTION.
20:51:18 AND ALSO ALLOWING THIS REZONING WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT
20:51:21 THE FUTURE BY ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS TO BUY SINGLE-FAMILY
20:51:26 HOMES AND REPLACE THEM WITH MULTIFAMILY, MULTI-STORY
20:51:31 HOUSING.
20:51:32 AN EXAMPLE OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY
20:51:36 NEIGHBORHOOD IS WESTSHORE PALMS.
20:51:40 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERS ABILITY TO SELL THEIR HOMES TO
20:51:44 ANYONE OTHER THAN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS IS SEVERELY
20:51:47 HINDERED.
20:51:48 AND TO THE EAST OF OAKFORD PARK THE SAME THING IS
20:51:52 HAPPENING IN GARDENS WITH THE ASSOCIATED TRAFFIC AND
20:51:56 CROWDING OF SO MANY MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS.
20:52:00 ALL THIS IS A WONDERFUL AREA.
20:52:03 WE ARE SO CONVENIENT TO AIRPORTS, TO SHOPPING, TO
20:52:06 DOWNTOWN.
20:52:08 IT IS -- I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUILD A
20:52:15 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING, THEIR MOUTHS MUST BE WATERING.
20:52:21 BUT I AM CERTAINLY SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO REZONING THE
20:52:24 PROPERTY THAT IS DESCRIBED 3116 NORTH A TO MULTIFAMILY
20:52:32 ZONING, AND AM VERY, VERY AGAINST IT.
20:52:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:52:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:52:39 NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN.
20:52:41 WERE YOU SWORN IN, SIR?
20:52:42 >> NO, SIR.
20:52:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
20:52:46 AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
20:52:47 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
20:52:52 >> JOHN SAMAHA: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
20:52:58 TONIGHT.
20:52:59 MY PROPERTY IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE
20:53:02 SUBJECT PROPERTY ON NORTH A STREET.
20:53:05 I'M SUGGESTING TONIGHT TO STRONGLY CONSIDER NOT APPROVING
20:53:09 THIS REZONING REQUEST.
20:53:13 AS YOU DID LESS THAN 12 MONTHS AGO.
20:53:16 I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY ARE COMING BACK AGAIN TO REZONE THE
20:53:19 SAME THING.
20:53:20 I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR FEWER UNITS.
20:53:25 THE LAST TIME THEY APPEARED BEFORE YOU GUYS, THEY WERE
20:53:28 SAYING THAT THEY -- AND IT WAS DENIED.
20:53:34 THIS REZONING WAS SCHEDULED AND THEN ABRUPTLY CANCELED.
20:53:40 THE MEETING WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO.
20:53:42 AND FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT, I RECEIVED NO NOTIFICATIONS
20:53:46 WHATSOEVER.
20:53:47 AND I AM NOT SURE WHY IT IS.
20:53:54 ONLY LET THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW A COUPLE DAYS AGO THAT
20:53:56 THIS WAS HAPPENING.
20:53:57 I HAVE OWNED AND OPERATED MY BUSINESS HERE IN TAMPA FOR
20:54:00 33 YEARS, AND HAVE DONE SO ON THE NORTH A STREET LOCATION
20:54:03 FOR THE LAST 27 YEARS.
20:54:05 OAKFORD PARK HAS BEEN A GREAT LOCATION THAT A LLOYD MY
20:54:08 BUSINESS TO PROSPER.
20:54:10 I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS
20:54:13 GREAT BECAUSE IT'S SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
20:54:17 THERE'S BEEN A GREAT INFLUX OF NEW FAMILIES COMBING IN,
20:54:22 AND 15 YEARS AGO OR 20 YEARS AGO IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD,
20:54:25 YOU WOULDN'T SEE YOUNG FAMILIES PUSHING STROLLERS,
20:54:30 WALKING DOGS, RIDING BIKES AND ENJOYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:54:33 AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT INFLUX AND GOOD THINGS ARE
20:54:36 HAPPENING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:54:39 THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE AND SURROUND IT IS MOSTLY
20:54:42 ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, AND THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS.
20:54:46 THE NEW PARKING LOT THAT WAS ABLE TO BE PUT IN BEHIND THE
20:54:52 OLD STATE VACUUM BUILDING I BELIEVE IS AN EYESORE IN THE
20:54:57 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WERE ABLE TO TEAR
20:55:00 DOWN A HOUSE AND PUT IN A PARKING LOT BUT THAT HAPPENED.
20:55:04 MY BUSINESS IS A VIDEO PRODUCTION COMPANY AND WE PRODUCE
20:55:08 BROADCAST COMMERCIALS AND CORPORATE VIDEOS.
20:55:10 WE RECORD ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS IN OUR STUDIO, AND THE
20:55:15 CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN A BIG DEVELOPMENT LIKE
20:55:20 THAT ALONG WITH THE ADDITIONAL USE OF FAMILIES AND 16
20:55:25 CARS AND ALL THAT, ESPECIALLY USING THE ALLEY WOULD
20:55:28 CRIPPLE US.
20:55:29 ONE OF THE REASONS I PURCHASED THERE WAS BECAUSE IT WAS A
20:55:33 VERY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:55:35 I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY.
20:55:39 IT'S BEEN SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WRONG WITH PUTTING FOUR
20:55:41 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THERE?
20:55:42 I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
20:55:44 WE ALREADY HAVE MORE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, WATER, SEWAGE,
20:55:47 DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER ISSUES THAN WE CAN HANDLE.
20:55:50 WHY WOULD WE WANT TO INCREASE THOSE?
20:55:54 OAKFORD PARK IS -- WE NEED YOUR HELP.
20:55:58 COMMERCIAL PROJECTS ARE BOOMING ALL OVER TAMPA NOW.
20:56:01 PLEASE LET THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HOLD ITS SINGLE-FAMILY
20:56:04 INTEGRITY.
20:56:05 I THANK YOU AND STRONGLY URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REZONING
20:56:09 REQUEST.
20:56:09 THANK YOU.
20:56:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:56:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 33 YEARS, MR. SAMAHA.
20:56:18 YOU ARE GETTING OLD.
20:56:19 >> AREN'T WE ALL?
20:56:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE TIMOTHY HEALY ON THE LINE
20:56:24 AS WELL?
20:56:25 >>LUIS VIERA: CHAIR, HE IS ON THE LINE BUT HE HAS AN
20:56:27 ISSUE WITH HIS VIDEO CAPABILITY.
20:56:30 HE'S LOGGED ON WITH HIS TAMPA BAY TABLET BUT IT'S NOT
20:56:34 ALLOWING I AM TO TURN ON VIDEO.
20:56:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
20:56:40 HE HAD FORWARDED AN E-MAIL TO CITY COUNCIL.
20:56:42 MY UNDERSTANDING, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IT'S BEEN
20:56:46 UPLOADED TO SIRE, HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL, AND HE
20:56:49 SHOULD KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN MADE PART OF THIS RECORD.
20:56:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
20:56:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:56:53 WE NOW HAVE -- I DID ASK IF THERE WAS ANYBODY AT THE
20:56:58 KIOSK OR ANYBODY HERE.
20:57:01 WE NOW HAVE REBUTTAL, SIR.
20:57:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER, ANY MORE QUESTIONS
20:57:08 BEFORE THE REBUTTAL YOU KNOW, WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT.
20:57:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
20:57:12 COUNCILMAN?
20:57:15 ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD, SIR.
20:57:16 >> IN LIGHT OF THE DISCUSSION, WE BELIEVE THIS
20:57:26 APPLICATION TO BE CONSISTENT, AND THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT
20:57:31 DISCUSS IT IS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
20:57:35 AND I DO AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC THAT THE AREA TO THE NORTH
20:57:38 IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
20:57:41 THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY ABUTS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
20:57:45 AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE HIS PROPERTY IS TO THE EAST,
20:57:49 AND HE ENJOYS A COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THE SAME BLOCK.
20:57:55 THE APPLICANT TODAY IS NOT A BUILDER.
20:57:57 HE'S TRYING TO WORK WITH A BUILDER WHO DID NOT HAVE
20:58:04 THE -- THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE
20:58:07 PLANS FOR THIS.
20:58:09 BUT IN LIGHT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I AM GETTING, WE WILL
20:58:12 REQUEST TO CONTINUE AND SWITCH TO A PD.
20:58:15 WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FEASIBLE BUT WE'LL SEE IF IT'S
20:58:18 FEASIBLE AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL IF IT WILL GRANT
20:58:22 OUR REQUEST.
20:58:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO A PARTICULAR DATE YOU ARE LOOKING
20:58:25 FOR, KEVIN?
20:58:27 >> WE TALKED WITH STAFF AND I BELIEVE THE MARCH 11th
20:58:31 HEARING.
20:58:33 6:00 P.M.
20:58:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE TO MARCH
20:58:35 11th, 6:00 P.M.
20:58:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO
20:58:40 MARCH 11, 6 P.M., SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
20:58:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
20:58:44 ANY OPPOSED?
20:58:45 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
20:58:49 VOTE.
20:58:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT
20:58:55 TO THE PERSON, THE SPEAKER WHO SAID THEY DID NOT GET ANY
20:58:57 NOTICE.
20:59:00 THE LEGAL NOTICE REQUIREMENT WAS FULFILLED.
20:59:02 THIS IS NOW A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
20:59:05 NOW IT'S CONTINUED AGAIN.
20:59:07 AND THERE WILL BE NO MAILED OR POSTED NOTICE WITH REGARD
20:59:10 TO THAT DATE.
20:59:11 SO AGAIN LET ME REPEAT THAT.
20:59:14 THAT IS A NOTICE THAT IS NOW GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
20:59:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 11, 2021, AT 6:00 P.M.
20:59:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:59:24 MS. SAMANIEGO.
20:59:25 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THIS IS THE NEXT ITEM IS REZ 20-45, A
20:59:35 REZONE REQUESTING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3154 AND
20:59:39 3200 WEST EUCLID AVENUE FROM RS-60 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
20:59:44 FOR DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
20:59:46 I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS MR. MICHELINI AND HE IS
20:59:49 PRESENT.
20:59:50 I DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR
20:59:51 PRESENTATION.
20:59:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:59:54 MS. MALONE.
20:59:54 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU, MARY.
20:59:58 DO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
21:00:09 THANK YOU.
21:00:16 BEAR WITH ME.
21:00:19 IT WORKED PERFECTLY THE FIRST TIME.
21:00:21 2045.
21:00:22 IT IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
21:00:26 IT IS ON WEST EUCLID AVENUE AND SELMON EXPRESSWAY, AND
21:00:32 NECESSARY THE SUBJECT SITE, VERY MUCH SINGLE-FAMILY
21:00:35 DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SURROUND THE SUBJECT SITE.
21:00:40 THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
21:00:43 YOU SEE THE PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
21:00:46 THIS REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE IN-FILL
21:00:48 DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
21:00:49 THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S 10 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
21:00:53 BASED ON THIS UNDERLYING APPLICATION WITH THE PLANNED
21:00:56 DEVELOPMENT -- AND OVERALL, THE SUBJECT SITE AT TEN UNITS
21:01:04 PER ACRE, LAND USE, AND RESIDENTIAL 10 LAND USE 10.
21:01:10 IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICY ON ENCOURAGING NEW
21:01:12 HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
21:01:15 AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.
21:01:17 I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
21:01:19 THANK YOU.
21:01:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:01:20 MARY?
21:01:21 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PLANNED
21:01:28 DEVELOPMENT FOR DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.
21:01:32 HE'S PROPOSING THREE DEVELOPMENT LOTS WHICH I HAVE THE
21:01:34 SITE PLAN UP ON THE ELMO, IF YOU WANT TO -- THERE WE
21:01:37 GO -- THREE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
21:01:40 THE PROPERTY IS KIND OF BIFURCATED.
21:01:44 THE ENTIRE PD INCLUDES ALL -- JUST TO BE CLEAR.
21:01:50 THE WESTERN LOT IS 86 FEET IN WIDTH ON WEST EUCLID AVENUE
21:01:55 AND 108 FEET IN WIDTH ON SOUTH LYNWOOD AVENUE AND THE
21:02:03 EASTERN PORTION 104 FEET OF WIDTH ON EUCLID AND 108 ON
21:02:07 LYNWOOD.
21:02:08 THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY CONTAINS TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
21:02:10 RESIDENCES WHICH ARE TO BE DEMOLISHED AND THE SURROUNDING
21:02:13 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS RS-60 ZONING.
21:02:18 AS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN, LOT 1 WOULD BE 9,240
21:02:29 SQUARE FEET.
21:02:30 THE FRONT SETBACK WOULD BE 20 FEET.
21:02:32 THE CORNER AND THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE 57 EACH AND THE REAR
21:02:36 SETBACK WILL BE 15 FEET WITH A MAXIMUM OVERALL HEIGHT OF
21:02:39 40 FEET.
21:02:40 LOTS 2 AND 3, LOT 2 WOULD BE 4,640 SQUARE FEET, 20-FOOT
21:02:54 FRONT SETBACK.
21:02:55 7 ON THE SIDE CORNER AND 2 FEET IN THE REAR.
21:02:58 AND A 40-FOOT HEIGHT AS WELL.
21:03:01 AND THE REMAINING LOT TO THE SOUTH IS LOT 3, 5,616 SQUARE
21:03:05 FEET AT 25-FOOT SETBACK, 7-FOOT CORNER AND SIDE SETBACKS,
21:03:11 20-FOOT REAR AND A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 40 FEET.
21:03:16 BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUESTING A CHANGE FROM RS 60 TO CREATE
21:03:25 LOTS LESS THAN THE 60-FOOT LOT WIDTH -- I AM GOING TO
21:03:29 TAKE THIS MIKE WITH ME.
21:03:31 THERE.
21:03:32 WE DID THE ANALYSIS OF THE DIFFERENT LOT WIDTH PATTERNS
21:03:37 OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
21:03:37 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN BLACK.
21:03:40 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 60 FEET WIDE
21:03:46 ARE IN THE GRAY OR BLUE COLORS.
21:03:49 WHICH ARE INDICATED HERE.
21:03:52 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
21:03:53 AS YOU CAN SEE THE IMMEDIATE AREA MOST OF THE LOTS ARE
21:03:56 GREATER THAN 60 FEET WIDE.
21:04:04 ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
21:04:13 THE ANALYSIS AREA INCLUDED 298 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 212 OR
21:04:31 74% OF THOSE LOTS WERE DEVELOPED WITH A BACK WIDTH OF 60
21:04:36 FEET OR GREATER AND ONLY 77 OR 26% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED
21:04:41 WITH A WIDTH OF LESS THAN 60 FEET.
21:04:43 PURSUANT TO REVIEW, THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
21:04:47 THE SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 50 ZONING LOTS, 48 OR 96% OF
21:04:51 THOSE LOTS HAVE A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND ONLY
21:04:55 47% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF LESS THAN 60
21:04:58 FEET.
21:04:59 SIMILARLY, THE 3100 BLOCK OF EAST EUCLID AVENUE ON BOTH
21:05:03 SIDES OF THE STREET CONTAIN 42 ZONING LOTS.
21:05:07 100% OF THESE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60
21:05:11 FEET OR GREATER.
21:05:12 AND ZERO HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED OF LESS THAN 60 FEET IN
21:05:16 WIDTH.
21:05:18 THE BLOCK FACING EAST EUCLID AVENUE CONTAINS 24 ZONING
21:05:23 LOTS, AND AGAIN 100% OF THOSE LOTS OR 60 FEET ARE GREATER
21:05:28 AND NONE ARE DEVELOPED LESS THAN 60 FEET.
21:05:32 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW -- SORRY.
21:05:34 THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF FOUND IT INCONSISTENT
21:05:40 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN F.CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES TO
21:05:44 APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, THERE ARE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST
21:05:46 AND SECOND READING FROM MY DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS NATURAL
21:05:50 RESOURCES, AND THE APPLICANT IS ONLY REQUESTING ONE
21:05:53 WAIVER TO 27-284.2.5-F-4 TO REQUEST A REMOVAL OF
21:06:01 NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREE, 35-INCH DUE TO THE PROPOSED
21:06:05 CONSTRUCTION, AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF NATURAL
21:06:07 RESOURCES PRESENT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
21:06:10 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
21:06:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:06:12 ANY QUESTIONS?
21:06:14 MR. MICHELINI.
21:06:18 >>STEVE MICHELINI: COUNCIL, I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE
21:06:24 ASKING TO BE SWORN IN FOR EACH APPLICATION F.THAT'S THE
21:06:26 CASE --
21:06:27 >>> NO, NO.
21:06:28 YOU WERE SWORN IN.
21:06:29 >>STEVE MICHELINI: JUST WANT TO CHECK BEFORE I PROCEED.
21:06:35 THIS PROJECT WAS CONTINUED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND
21:06:39 CONVERTED TO A PD WHICH WAS A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE TO
21:06:45 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:06:46 WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
21:06:48 REPRESENTATIVES FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS ON THIS PROJECT.
21:06:53 AND I WANTED TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS.
21:06:55 THERE ARE SOME MITIGATING CONDITIONS HERE THAT WARRANT
21:06:59 CONSIDERATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
21:07:03 LET ME JUST SHOW YOU A COUPLE THINGS.
21:07:19 THE PETITIONER IS GOING TO BE LIVING AND DEVELOPING A LOT
21:07:24 HERE, WHICH WE REMOVED FROM THE PETITION.
21:07:28 IT'S IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF WHAT WE ARE CALLING LOT 1.
21:07:31 AND THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THEIR OWN HOME THERE.
21:07:33 SO THEY ARE LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:07:35 THEY ARE STAYING THERE.
21:07:36 AND THIS PROJECT WILL INVOLVE REMOVING THE TWO PROPERTIES
21:07:44 THAT ARE HERE AND HERE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.
21:07:50 NOW, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE FACING HERE.
21:08:05 THESE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ARE ORIENTED TOWARD EUCLID,
21:08:09 AND IT'S THE ON-RAMP FOR THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
21:08:15 THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING NORTH, IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE
21:08:19 PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING PETITIONED FOR REZONING.
21:08:23 THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING TO THE WEST.
21:08:26 AND YOU HAVE EXTREMELY LARGE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT OCCUR
21:08:33 AS LONG EUCLID, BOTH FROM THE OFF-RAMP THAT'S SLIGHTLY
21:08:38 OAT OTHER SIDE OF THE CROSSTOWN, AND THE ON-RAMP THAT'S
21:08:40 DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.
21:08:46 THE RED DO IT INDICATES ONE OF THE HOMES THAT'S GOING TO
21:08:51 BE REMOVED.
21:08:52 BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY OF THE CROSSTOWN, AND THIS
21:08:58 SIDE IS ONE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP FOR TWO
21:09:02 HOMES.
21:09:03 THIS SIDE WE ARE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP FOR ONE HOME.
21:09:06 AND YOU CAN SEE THE ON-RAMP FOR THE CROSSTOWN RIGHT
21:09:09 THERE.
21:09:13 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH AT EUCLID AND LYNWOOD.
21:09:19 AND AGAIN, THE HOUSES ARE CURRENTLY ORIENTED TOWARD
21:09:26 EUCLID AND WE ARE TRYING TO REMOVE THEM AND ORIENT THEM
21:09:30 THE OTHER DIRECTION.
21:09:33 THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING TO THE EAST.
21:09:38 AND IT'S ESTIMATED BY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THAT
21:09:40 WE HAVE OVER 12,000 TRIPS PER DAY ON THIS SEGMENT OF
21:09:45 EUCLID.
21:09:46 AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO GET THE TRAFFIC OFF OF
21:09:49 EUCLID AND MOVE IT ONTO LYNWOOD.
21:09:52 AND IN THAT REGARD, WE ARE PROPOSING, IF YOU LOOK AT
21:09:58 THESE RED LINES HERE, A 6-FOOT BUFFER WALL ALONG EUCLID,
21:10:04 AND THEN AN ENTRY FEATURE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
21:10:07 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AT
21:10:12 OUR COST AND ON OUR PROPERTY, NOT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
21:10:15 AND HERE I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF
21:10:17 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
21:10:19 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHEN WE TALKED TO THEM,
21:10:24 THEY HAD INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH US AND THEN
21:10:26 COME BACK TO US AND TELL US WHICH OF THESE VARIOUS
21:10:29 ALTERNATIVES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
21:10:31 NOW, THESE ARE JUST REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE ARE
21:10:34 PROPOSING.
21:10:37 >> ARE YOU GOING TO CALL IT MICHELINI HEIGHTS?
21:10:41 >>STEVE MICHELINI: BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL, SIR.
21:10:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:10:45 >> BUT THE OUTSIDE, AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT, WE
21:10:49 WANT TO SEGREGATE THAT SINGLE-FAMILY AREA THAT IS NOW
21:10:52 COMPLETELY DELUGED WITH TRAFFIC NOISES AND CARS.
21:10:56 IT'S A HEAVY VOLUME AND HEAVY ACCIDENT AREA.
21:11:03 THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION.
21:11:07 ANOTHER OPTION.
21:11:10 AND THEN ONE MORE OPTION.
21:11:15 THE STRUCTURES.
21:11:27 ARE PROPOSED TO BE SIMILAR TO THIS.
21:11:29 AND WE HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN OUR REZONING PACKAGE.
21:11:41 SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER, THAT WHEN YOU GO TO A
21:11:43 PD THAT YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE CHANGING
21:11:47 NEEDS, AND THAT THERE ARE MITIGATING FACTORS FOR THE TWO
21:11:51 LOTS TO BE SLIGHTLY LESS IN TERMS OF THE WIDTH.
21:11:55 BUT THEY ARE BEING TURNED AND REORIENTED TOWARD LYNWOOD
21:12:00 AND AWAY FROM EUCLID.
21:12:02 AND THE CODE DOES ENCOURAGE FLEXIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND
21:12:06 REDUCE -- SOME THINGS IT REDUCES THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS
21:12:10 AND THE VOLUME.
21:12:11 SO THIS WILL TAKE SOME OF THAT DIRECT TRAFFIC OFF OF
21:12:14 EUCLID AND PUT IT ONTO LYNWOOD IN A PROTECTED AREA WITH
21:12:19 THE BUFFER WALL, THE LANDSCAPING AND THE ENTRY FEATURE.
21:12:24 WE ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE A MORE LIVABLE AND WORKING
21:12:28 ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITION HERE BY ESTABLISHING A NEW
21:12:31 ORIENTATION, AND ALSO A MORE FLEXIBLE AND ATTRACTIVE
21:12:36 ENTRYWAY.
21:12:39 WE ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE THE MORE DESIRABLE AND LIVING
21:12:42 WORKING CONDITIONS.
21:12:43 WE ARE ALSO PROMOTING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT WE ARE
21:12:46 ORIENTING TOWARD EUCLID THAT DON'T EXIST CURRENTLY.
21:12:51 WE ARE PROMOTING RETENTION AND USE OF THE AREA AND TURN
21:12:55 IT INTO A VIABLE AND PRODUCTIVE DEVELOPMENT.
21:12:59 THE DESIGN IS A LITTLE BIT ON THE UNIQUE SIDE.
21:13:03 WE WENT TO THE PD PLAN SO THAT WE COULD CONTROL EXACTLY
21:13:07 WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW IT HAPPENED.
21:13:08 WE ARE SAVING A NUMBER OF TREES BY GOING TO THAT PD PLAN.
21:13:15 AND THE ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT AND DEVELOP THIS PROJECT IS
21:13:20 DEPENDENT UPON THE GRANTING OF THESE WAIVERS THAT WE HAVE
21:13:24 LISTED.
21:13:24 THE ONLY ONE WAIVER THAT'S IN THERE, AND IT IS IN HARMONY
21:13:30 WITH THE -- I'M SORRY, WITH THE ADOPTED PLAN AND GENERAL
21:13:35 INTENT AND PURPOSES OF THIS CODE, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE
21:13:37 PLAN.
21:13:38 IT DOES PROMOTE AND PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND
21:13:41 WELFARE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
21:13:43 AND I SAID THE OWNER WILL LIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO
21:13:47 THIS ON THE SOUTH OF THE LOT ON THE WEST SIDE.
21:13:55 SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE WILL BE DONE BY GRANTING THIS.
21:13:59 AS I SAID, WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE
21:14:01 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WORKING OUT THESE ISSUES.
21:14:04 I PLACED A LETTER FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION INTO
21:14:07 THE RECORD.
21:14:09 I WILL BE HAPPY TO READ IT IF YOU LIKE.
21:14:11 THEY WISHED US WELL AND INDICATED THAT THEY WERE NOT
21:14:15 TAKING POSITIONS ON LAND USE MATTERS AT THIS TIME, BUT
21:14:20 THEY DID SAY BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR VENTURES, LOOK FORWARD
21:14:23 TO SEEING YOU IN THE COMING MONTHS.
21:14:26 AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
21:14:28 WE STARTED WORKING OUT WITH CHELSEA JOHNSON WHEN SHE WAS
21:14:32 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS A LEADER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD
21:14:36 ASSOCIATION, AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME VISITING THE SITE
21:14:39 AND TRYING TO ORIENT THESE PROPERTIES.
21:14:43 WITH RESPECT TO THE TWO PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE, NOW
21:14:49 WILL BE FACING LYNWOOD, THE ONLY ONES ADVERSELY AFFECTED
21:14:54 WILL BE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WHICH WILL BE THOSE
21:14:56 TWO PROPERTIES AND NOT ANY EXTERNAL -- ANY OTHER PROPERTY
21:15:00 OWNER.
21:15:01 THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATE TO THE SOUTH OF
21:15:04 THIS, THEY WOULD ENJOY THE SAME SETBACKS AS WOULD
21:15:09 PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN ALLOWED THERE, WHICH WOULD BE 7
21:15:12 FEET.
21:15:15 WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED A STRONG PLAN THAT
21:15:17 MITIGATES ANY ADVERSE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE CREATED,
21:15:22 THAT THE STAFF HAD POINTED OUT.
21:15:24 AS I SAID, WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TRYING TO THINK
21:15:27 THIS THING THROUGH AND COME BACK WITH A LEGITIMATE AND
21:15:30 ACCEPTABLE PROJECT.
21:15:33 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
21:15:35 WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
21:15:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
21:15:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED CHELSEA JOHNSON.
21:15:45 HAVE YOU MET WITH JOHN GARLAND?
21:15:49 >> THE LETTER THAT I JUST READ WAS FROM HIM AND IT'S IN
21:15:52 THE PACKAGE.
21:15:54 IT'S IN THE SIRE.
21:15:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:16:02 ANYBODY ELSE?
21:16:03 THANK YOU.
21:16:03 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
21:16:06 ITEM NUMBER 6?
21:16:07 I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED, CORRECT?
21:16:11 >> CORRECT.
21:16:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
21:16:14 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC?
21:16:21 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE HERE FOR THIS ITEM.
21:16:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:16:23 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE IF THERE'S NO OTHER
21:16:27 QUESTIONS?
21:16:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.
21:16:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:16:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST HAD ONE COMMENT BEFORE WE
21:16:33 CLOSE.
21:16:33 I GUESS I CAN HOLD IT FOR THE MOTION.
21:16:35 I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT I AGREE WITH
21:16:38 EVERYTHING STEVE MICHELINI SAID.
21:16:41 I THINK THIS PARTICULAR STRETCH OF EUCLID IS VERY
21:16:45 DIFFICULT.
21:16:48 AS YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN THERE, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE
21:16:51 THAT THESE HOMES, TWO HOMES THAT YOU SHOWED ME PICTURES
21:16:55 OF, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH OLDER HOMES, BUT THEY
21:17:00 CLEARLY APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN RENTALS FOR MANY YEARS, THEY
21:17:04 ARE NOT IMPROVING, PROBABLY IN PART BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS
21:17:10 EUCLID BUSY, BUT ALSO THE ENTRANCE ACROSS THE STREET
21:17:14 DOESN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF AESTHETIC APPEAL.
21:17:17 SO I THINK IN THIS CASE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEEMS TO HAVE
21:17:20 NO OBJECTION.
21:17:21 NEITHER DO I.
21:17:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:17:26 WE HAD A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
21:17:28 CORRECT?
21:17:29 DO I HEAR A SECOND?
21:17:31 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:17:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:17:33 ANY OPPOSED?
21:17:35 ALL RIGHT.
21:17:35 WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE TO BE READ.
21:17:38 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM NUMBER
21:17:41 6?
21:17:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
21:17:44 REZ 20-45.
21:17:48 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
21:17:50 CONSIDERATION.
21:17:51 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
21:17:55 3154 AND 3200 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
21:18:01 FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
21:18:04 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
21:18:07 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
21:18:10 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
21:18:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:18:17 ROLL CALL VOTE.
21:18:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY. COULD WE TAKE
21:18:21 A ROLL CALL VOTE?
21:18:23 DOES THAT INCLUDE THE REVISION SHEET?
21:18:28 IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD IN REGARD TO ADD TO
21:18:34 THE RECORD OF THIS SORT?
21:18:37 THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 6.
21:18:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE THE REVISION SHEET,
21:18:47 AND BURDEN OF PROOF, SHOWN IN THE SITE PLAN, AND PLANNING
21:18:59 COMMISSION STAFF REPORTS.
21:19:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
21:19:02 IS THERE A SECOND?
21:19:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
21:19:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
21:19:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
21:19:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
21:19:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
21:19:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
21:19:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
21:19:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
21:19:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
21:19:19 VOTE.
21:19:20 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER
21:19:23 3rd, 9:30 A.M.
21:19:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:19:25 ITEM NUMBER 8.
21:19:26 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT,
21:19:37 ITEM 8 IS REZ 20-31, REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY
21:19:41 LOCATED AT 93706 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE FROM RS-60
21:19:45 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
21:19:48 MEDICAL OFFICE AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
21:19:50 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT INTENDED TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY.
21:19:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE
21:20:00 LINE?
21:20:00 PUT HIM ON.
21:20:01 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
21:20:10 SHOULD I GO AHEAD OR HOLD ON?
21:20:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU THE APPLICANT, SIR? GO
21:20:14 AHEAD.
21:20:15 NO PROBLEM.
21:20:15 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I DEFER THEN TO THE PLANNING
21:20:18 COMMISSION.
21:20:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE MORE PRESENTATION, SIR, AND THEN
21:20:21 I WILL CALL YOU UP.
21:20:22 MS. MALONE, GO AHEAD.
21:20:23 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES.
21:20:27 REZ 20-31 IS FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:20:32 THE REQUEST IS FOR AN OFFICE, IN THE UNIVERSITY DISTRICT.
21:20:38 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE, A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE
21:20:42 IN UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND THIS PORTION
21:20:46 HERE, THIS IS ARMENIA AND BUSCH AND THE SUBJECT SITE.
21:20:50 THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL
21:20:54 20.
21:20:57 THE LIGHT YELLOW IS THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FUTURE LAND
21:21:00 USE DESIGNATION BUT THE PORTION OF THE CITY IS
21:21:02 RESIDENTIAL 20.
21:21:03 SO RESIDENTIAL 20, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS AND
21:21:14 ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS THE USE HAS TO BE LOCATED ON A
21:21:18 COLLECTOR OR HYBRID ROADWAY THAT'S IN THE COLLECTOR OR
21:21:22 HIERARCHY IN AN ARTERIAL ROADWAYS.
21:21:25 SO WE DID FIND IT WAS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE TO THE
21:21:29 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WOULDN'T CAUSE ANY ADVERSE
21:21:31 EFFECTS.
21:21:32 THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
21:21:33 THANK YOU.
21:21:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:21:34 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: I WILL DO MY PRESENTATION AND MAKE IT
21:21:43 EASIER FOR EXHIBITS.
21:21:44 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REUSE AN EXISTING BUILDING
21:21:48 LOCATED AT NORTH ARMENIA WHICH IS EXISTING 3,131 SQUARE
21:21:53 FOOT BUILD TOGETHER ALLOW FOR MEDICAL OFFICE AND BUSINESS
21:21:55 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES.
21:21:57 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY USED AS RETAIL USE.
21:22:01 THE SITE IS .31 ACRES AND IS LOCATED ONE LOT TO THE NORTH
21:22:07 OF THE NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE, WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD
21:22:10 INTERSECTION.
21:22:11 THE PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY RETAIL AND OFFICE USES TO THE
21:22:14 EAST, NORTH AND SOUTH, IN THE RO AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL
21:22:18 ZONING DISTRICT, AND AS JENNIFER STATED, THE HILLSBOROUGH
21:22:25 COUNTY JURISDICTIONAL LINE IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST.
21:22:34 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SETBACKS OF 10-FOOT NORTH,
21:22:38 SOUTH, 40-FOOT TO THE EAST, AND 20 FEET TO THE WEST.
21:22:43 MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD BE 35 FEET.
21:22:46 BASED ON THE TWO USES, THE MOST INTENSIVE USE FOR PARKING
21:22:49 IS MEDICAL OFFICE.
21:22:51 A TOTAL OF 18 PARKING SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THE
21:22:55 APPLICANT, BECAUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING WOULD REMAIN, AS
21:23:02 WELL AS EXISTING PARKING LOT, WE HE COULD ONLY PROVIDE 14
21:23:09 PARKING SPACES.
21:23:10 THEREFORE THERE'S A WAIVER REQUEST TO 27% PARKING
21:23:14 REDUCTION TO GO DOWN FROM 18 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED DOWN
21:23:19 TO 14.
21:23:24 TRYING TO PUT A NEW USE TO AN EXISTING SITE.
21:23:27 THERE IS A SECOND PARKING RELATED WAIVER TO REDUCE THE
21:23:31 DRIVE AISLE WIDTH IN ONE LOCATION FROM 24 FEET DOWN TO
21:23:35 23.5 FEET WHICH IS ONLY A HALF A FOOT DIFFERENCE.
21:23:41 OTHER THAN THAT, THIRDLY AGAIN, RESTATING WHAT I WAS
21:23:46 SAYING BEFORE, BECAUSE OF WORKING WITH AN EXISTING SITE,
21:23:49 THERE'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH AVAILABLE GREEN SPACE ON THE
21:23:52 SITE TO DO ALL THE MITIGATION, TREES AS WELL AS REQUIRED
21:23:56 TREES, SO THE THIRD AND FINAL WAIVER IS TO CONTRIBUTE TO
21:23:59 THE TREE TRUST FUND FOR THE MITIGATION OF REQUIRED TREES.
21:24:05 SO THERE ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
21:24:08 READING SO I WOULD INCLUDE YOU THE REVISION SHEET AND THE
21:24:16 COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE
21:24:18 PARKING REDUCTION AND THE DRIVE AISLE WIDTH REDUCTION.
21:24:21 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
21:24:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
21:24:24 HEARING NONE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
21:24:26 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND BEGIN WITH YOU'RE
21:24:28 PRESENTATION.
21:24:29 >> MY NAME IS SANTOYA, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER OF
21:24:35 THIS PROPERTY.
21:24:38 AND WE HAVE TRIED TO MODIFY THE ZONING ON THIS CASE FROM
21:24:47 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TO A PD TO MAKE A MEDICAL OFFICE, AND
21:25:04 A MEDICAL OFFICE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
21:25:21 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND COUNTY PLANNING.
21:25:27 WE ARE APPLYING FOR ZONING ON THIS CASE, BUT WE WANT TO
21:25:39 BE CLEAR, THAT THE PROPERTY AND HAVE THE SAME OWNER IN
21:25:55 THE PARKING, WITH THIS PROPERTY, WE KIND OF COMPENSATE
21:26:09 WITH THE PROPERTY.
21:26:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
21:26:19 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
21:26:22 >> NOBODY IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
21:26:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE CONVENTION
21:26:25 CENTER OR THE KIOSK TO SPEAK OR HERE IN THE PUBLIC?
21:26:31 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
21:26:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO
21:26:38 SPEAK?
21:26:39 HEARING NONE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
21:26:41 A MOTION TO CLOSE?
21:26:43 THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:26:45 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
21:26:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
21:26:48 ALL RIGHT.
21:26:53 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WORKS YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
21:26:55 8 AND DON'T FORGET TO INCLUDE THE REVISION SHEET.
21:26:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
21:27:02 I MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
21:27:04 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
21:27:06 THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 9306 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE, CITY
21:27:11 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
21:27:13 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
21:27:17 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE,
21:27:20 AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
21:27:23 DATE, AND INCLUDING THE CHANGES OUTLINED BY STAFF IN THE
21:27:28 STAFF REPORT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
21:27:31 I AM MAKING THIS MOTION BASED ON THE FACT THAT I DO
21:27:33 BELIEVE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
21:27:38 AS WELL AS IN OUR ZONING CODE CHAPTER 27.
21:27:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
21:27:51 ROLL CALL.
21:27:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT WE
21:27:54 HEARD.
21:27:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
21:27:55 ROLL CALL VOTE.
21:27:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
21:28:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
21:28:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
21:28:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
21:28:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
21:28:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
21:28:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
21:28:10 VOTE AND SECOND READING AND ADOPTION TO BE HELD ON
21:28:12 DECEMBER 3rd, 9:30 A.M.
21:28:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH, SIR.
21:28:17 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
21:28:18 NEXT UP ITEM NUMBER 10.
21:28:20 MARY SAMANIEGO.
21:28:21 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: 2053, A REZONING REQUEST 413 SOUTH
21:28:28 MELVILLE AVENUE.
21:28:29 THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM RM-16 TO PD SINGLE-FAMILY
21:28:41 RESIDENTIAL.
21:28:41 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL
21:28:44 TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
21:28:45 IT IS LOCATED 413 SOUTH MELVILLE AVENUE.
21:28:50 WE HAVE THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY IN THE AREA, AND COMMERCIAL
21:28:55 USES ATTACHED.
21:29:02 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 35, THE
21:29:06 DARK BROWN COLOR, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP, ALSO
21:29:12 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, AND RESIDENTIAL 20 IN THE AREA AS
21:29:20 WELL, AND COMMERCIAL 35, AND RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
21:29:30 THE LAND DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY
21:29:34 ATTACHED RESIDENCES, BUT OVERALL DENSITY FOR THAT SITE IS
21:29:37 21.57 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, RESIDENTIAL 35, AND FUTURE
21:29:45 LAND USE MAXIMUM DENSITY.
21:29:48 WE FOUND THAT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- OF THE
21:29:53 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY.
21:29:57 THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
21:29:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
21:30:10 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED
21:30:13 IN 1987.
21:30:14 AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP THE EXISTING
21:30:16 BUILDING WITH THE FOUR UNITS.
21:30:21 WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1987 IT WAS IN THE R 30
21:30:25 ZONING DISTRICT UNDER CHAPTER 43.
21:30:27 WHEN THE CURRENT ZONING CODE WHICH IS CHAPTER 27 WAS
21:30:30 ADOPTED IN 1988 THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED TO RM-16.
21:30:35 UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER UNDER THE RM 16
21:30:38 ZONING DISTRICT PRESENTS THE FACTORS 2073 SQUARE FEET PER
21:30:45 UNIT.
21:30:46 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 8070 SQUARE FEET, SO WITH THAT
21:30:48 DENSITY FACTOR, IT ONLY ALLOWS FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS BY
21:30:51 RIGHT.
21:30:52 THEREFORE, TWO OF THE EXISTING FOUR DWELLING UNITS ARE
21:30:58 NONCONFORMING CURRENTLY.
21:30:59 HOWEVER, THE R-35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT MS.
21:31:04 MALONE JUST PRESENTED ALLOWS FOR 30 DWELLING UNITS PER
21:31:07 ACRE.
21:31:08 SO THIS REZONING APPLICATION TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
21:31:12 WOULD BRING THE FOUR DWELLING UNITS INTO COMPLIANCE WITH
21:31:15 THE DENSITY FACTOR OF 21 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
21:31:19 THE UNITS ARE CONFIGURED IN A SINGLE BUILDING WITH ALL
21:31:21 UNITS HAVING DOORS FACING THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, WHICH
21:31:27 IS NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO THAT IS THE FIRST WAIVER
21:31:33 THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, PER SECTION 27.282.9,
21:31:36 THE PROPERTY LINE IN LIEU OF A STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY.
21:31:40 BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH AN EXISTING SITE AND
21:31:46 SITE CONSTRAINT WITH THE BUILDING.
21:31:50 THEY ARE PROPOSING THE ONLY WAY FOR THE EXISTING PARKING
21:31:53 IS THE EXISTING PARKING AND TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE
21:31:57 WITH THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS OF THE PARKING LOT THEY
21:32:00 COULD ONLY FIT SIX ON THE PROPERTY.
21:32:02 THE SECOND WAIVER IS TO GO FROM THE REQUIRED NINE PARKING
21:32:05 SPACES TWO PER UNIT PLUS ONE GUEST SPOT DOWN TO SIX.
21:32:09 THAT IS THE SECOND WAIVER REQUEST THAT THEY ARE ASKING.
21:32:12 THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF DID FIND THIS APPLICATION
21:32:15 INCONSISTENT.
21:32:19 THE THIRD WAIVER THEY ARE REQUESTING IS A MINOR ONE TO
21:32:21 ALLOW FOR THE REFUSE CANS FOR THE UNITS TO BE IN THE SIDE
21:32:25 YARD.
21:32:27 THEY WILL BE BEHIND A FENCE.
21:32:28 AND THEY WILL BE WITHIN ENCLOSURE AS WELL SIMPLY BECAUSE
21:32:31 THERE'S NO OTHER LOCATION TO PUT THE SOLID WASTE
21:32:34 ENCLOSURES THAN A SIDE PROPERTY.
21:32:36 THERE ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
21:32:40 READING FROM NATURAL RESOURCES, BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER
21:32:45 CHANGES TO ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT.
21:32:46 OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF DID
21:32:49 FIND THIS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE PARKING REDUCTION
21:32:52 FROM NINE SPACES DOWN TO SIX.
21:32:55 WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
21:32:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
21:32:59 HEARING NONE.
21:33:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:33:04 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD EVENING, STEVE MICHELINI.
21:33:06 I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER, 413 SOUTH MELVILLE.
21:33:10 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH, THE RED DOT IS
21:33:15 THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY TOWN HOUSES
21:33:20 AND OTHER MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.
21:33:22 AS MARY POINTED OUT, IT WAS BUILT IN 1987 AND THEN THE
21:33:27 CODE CHANGED IN 1988 MAKING IT NONCONFORMING.
21:33:31 SO THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, AND
21:33:35 WE'RE PROPOSING TO RETAIN THAT TO VEST IT AS BUILT WITH
21:33:39 ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT EXIST ORIGINALLY FROM THIS
21:33:44 STRUCTURE.
21:33:44 SO WHEN WE REZONED THAT TO A PD, I MEAN IT WOULDN'T
21:33:55 QUALIFY FOR A STRAIGHT REZONING, SO WE WENT TO A PD TO
21:33:55 VEST ALL OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
21:33:58 BUT FOR THE FACT THAT THE CODE CHANGED, WE WOULDN'T BE
21:34:01 HERE BEFORE YOU.
21:34:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MICHELINI, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY
21:34:05 OPPOSITION TONIGHT?
21:34:06 >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO, SIR.
21:34:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE WE SHOULD CHECK.
21:34:09 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S FINE.
21:34:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS SAYING, HE COULD RESERVE ALL
21:34:15 THIS FOR REBUTTAL PERHAPS IF THERE'S OBJECTION.
21:34:19 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S FINE.
21:34:21 I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OBJECTIONS.
21:34:23 WE DO NEED THE WAIVERS AS OUTLINED BY STAFF AND WE'RE
21:34:26 COMMITTING TO MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS BETWEEN FIRST AND
21:34:28 SECOND READING.
21:34:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE BUT YOUR
21:34:33 VESTING AN EXISTING PARCEL.
21:34:34 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
21:34:35 THAT'S FINE.
21:34:36 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUSPEND MY PRESENTATION.
21:34:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING THIS LENGTHY
21:34:42 MEETING.
21:34:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:34:44 ANY QUESTIONS?
21:34:46 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
21:34:49 THIS ITEM, ITEM 10, REZ 20-53.
21:34:53 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
21:34:56 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS
21:34:58 ON THIS ITEM.
21:34:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
21:35:05 >> AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT,
21:35:07 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
21:35:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:35:10 ALL RIGHT.
21:35:11 IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO
21:35:13 CLOSE?
21:35:14 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:35:16 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
21:35:18 ANY IN FAVOR?
21:35:19 ANY OPPOSED?
21:35:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
21:35:23 10.
21:35:26 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 20-53,
21:35:30 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
21:35:33 CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
21:35:35 VICINITY OF 413 SOUTH MELVILLE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
21:35:38 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
21:35:41 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL,
21:35:44 MULTIFAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
21:35:47 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
21:35:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
21:35:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:35:55 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
21:35:57 MY APOLOGIES FOR INTERRUPTING.
21:36:00 AGAIN, THAT MOTION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU CAN MAKE
21:36:03 REFERENCE TO THE REVISION SHEET.
21:36:04 I BELIEVE THAT IS IN THERE.
21:36:07 >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO ADD THE REVISION SHEET.
21:36:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND ALSO THE LANGUAGE PROVIDED WITH
21:36:13 REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 7 FOR YOU TO PLEASE PUT INTO THE
21:36:17 RECORD.
21:36:25 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNING
21:36:32 COMMISSION FINDINGS AND CONSISTENT WITH THE STAFF REPORT,
21:36:36 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND
21:36:38 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
21:36:41 VESTING AN EXISTING BUILDING.
21:36:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
21:36:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SECOND WAS MIRANDA, CORRECT?
21:36:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
21:36:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
21:36:49 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
21:36:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
21:36:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
21:36:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
21:36:56 >> VIERA?
21:36:57 CITRO?
21:36:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
21:36:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
21:36:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
21:37:01 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
21:37:03 VOTE.
21:37:03 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER
21:37:06 3rd AT 9:30 A.M.
21:37:07 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU.
21:37:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS.
21:37:09 NUMBER 11.
21:37:10 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING AND GROWTH
21:37:16 MANAGEMENT.
21:37:17 THIS ITEM IS REZ 20-56.
21:37:19 IT IS A REZONING REQUEST AT 3228 WEST OAKELLAR AVENUE
21:37:24 FROM RS-50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR ONE DETACHED
21:37:28 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT.
21:37:32 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
21:37:35 STAFF.
21:37:35 REZ 20-56, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
21:37:42 DISTRICT.
21:37:43 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
21:37:47 GANDY BOULEVARD IS OUT OF FRAME, BUT IT IS TO THE SOUTH
21:37:50 OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
21:37:51 IT'S ACTUALLY THESE PARCELS RIGHT HERE ARE FRONTING GANDY
21:37:55 BOULEVARD.
21:37:56 SO IT IS PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AS WE MOVE
21:37:59 NORTH TO GANDY BOULEVARD, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND
21:38:03 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 ARE THOSE DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE
21:38:06 ALONG GANDY BOULEVARD.
21:38:07 WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS
21:38:10 IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:38:12 THE PORTION OF WEST OAKELLAR AVENUE HAS AN EXISTING
21:38:16 DENSITY OF 9.11 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS THAT
21:38:20 DENSITY THAT IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10
21:38:22 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
21:38:24 WE FOUND THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE SAME FORM AS THE REST OF
21:38:29 THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY ADVERSE
21:38:32 IMPACTS, CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE
21:38:34 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
21:38:35 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
21:38:37 THANK YOU.
21:38:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
21:38:40 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO, AGAIN, PLANNING AND
21:38:43 DEVELOPMENT.
21:38:47 THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3228 WEST OAKELLAR AVENUE.
21:38:52 AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM RS-50 TO
21:38:56 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
21:38:58 THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
21:39:00 HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN GREEN.
21:39:04 WHEN THE PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST WAS REZONED TO PD
21:39:09 IN 2018 UNDER CASE NUMBER REZ 18-57, IT WAS ALL IN SINGLE
21:39:14 OWNERSHIP WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
21:39:16 SO THIS ENTIRE PIECE WAS OWNED BY A SINGLE OWNER.
21:39:20 WHEN THE TWO PD LOTS WERE -- OKAY, SO THEY DID A PD ON
21:39:29 THIS PROPERTY.
21:39:30 WHEN THE PD LOTS WERE SOLD, SO THIS PD WAS TO CREATE TWO
21:39:34 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS TO OUTSIDE PARTIES IT IN EFFECT
21:39:38 CREATED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, BUT
21:39:43 IT'S NOT DEVELOPABLE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LEGALLY CREATED.
21:39:47 SO YOUR ZONING CODE SAYS THAT MULTIPLE LOTS IF THEY ARE
21:39:51 SUBSTANDARD, IF SINGLE OWNERSHIP, THEY ARE CONSIDERED ONE
21:39:54 ZONING LOT.
21:39:55 THE PROPERTY OWNER, AGAIN, BACK IN 2018, CAME THROUGH AND
21:39:59 CREATED A PD ON THIS SITE.
21:40:02 WHEN HE SOLD, WHICH IS LEGAL.
21:40:06 WHEN HE SOLD THE TWO PD LOTS TO OUTSIDE PARTIES, THERE
21:40:10 BECAME THREE SEPARATE OWNERS FOR EACH ONE OF THE LOTS.
21:40:14 THEREFORE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TONIGHT IS TO ESTABLISH
21:40:16 THIS AS A LEGALLY DEVELOPABLE LOT.
21:40:21 HERE IS THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT AS PROPOSED.
21:40:25 IT DOES NOT MEET THE RS 50 STANDARDS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 45
21:40:29 FEET IN AREA.
21:40:29 IT MEETS THE 50-FOOT LOT WIDTH BUT DOES NOT MEET THE
21:40:33 5,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM AREA LOT STANDARD.
21:40:36 IT'S ONLY 4500 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN A
21:40:40 HUNDRED FEET IN DEPTH.
21:40:42 SAYING THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE MODIFICATION FOR NATURAL
21:40:49 RESOURCES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
21:40:52 THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY OVER THE PAST FEW
21:40:55 MONTHS WITH OUR NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO PROTECT
21:41:00 AN OFF-SITE TREE AS WELL AS TO PROTECT THE SECOND
21:41:05 OFF-SITE TREE THAT HAS A ROOT SYSTEM AND A CROWN SYSTEM
21:41:08 THAT GOES INTO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
21:41:10 THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF NATURAL RESOURCES PRESENT IF
21:41:15 YOU WISH TO DISCUSS THAT ISSUE FURTHER, BUT OVERALL, THE
21:41:18 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND THIS
21:41:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
21:41:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:41:26 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
21:41:27 WERE YOU SWORN IN, SIR?
21:41:31 >> I WAS NOT.
21:41:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
21:41:39 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
21:41:42 >> I DO.
21:41:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
21:41:44 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
21:41:46 JOHN LAWLESS HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, WHO IS ALSO
21:41:52 HERE WITH US.
21:41:53 I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT TO ADD TO THE
21:41:55 CITY'S PRESENTATION.
21:41:57 JUST TO REITERATE, AGAIN, THE LOT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS
21:42:00 IS UNDEVELOPABLE, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT 10% SHORT OF
21:42:05 THE RS 50 REQUIREMENTS.
21:42:07 THE PROPOSED PD PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHERWISE
21:42:13 RS-50 USE.
21:42:15 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND SO SIMPLY TO NOT ALLOW
21:42:18 THE LAND TO LIE FALLOW, WE'RE SEEKING THE REZONING.
21:42:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
21:42:26 GENTLEMAN?
21:42:27 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
21:42:33 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, REZ 20-56?
21:42:37 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
21:42:40 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN
21:42:42 COMMENTS.
21:42:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WERE YOU BOTH PLANNING TO SPEAK?
21:42:48 HAVE YOU BOTH BEEN SWORN IN.
21:42:50 NO.
21:42:50 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR
21:42:54 YOU IN.
21:42:57 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
21:43:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
21:43:02 IF YOU WOULD APPROACH THE LECTERN ONE AT A TIME AND
21:43:05 ALTERNATE, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
21:43:17 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
21:43:19 MY NAME IS RICHARD DIAZ.
21:43:21 I LIVE AT 3225 WEST OAKELLAR.
21:43:25 THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET CATTY-CORNER FROM THE SUBJECT
21:43:28 PROPERTY.
21:43:29 I WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
21:43:35 WITH REGARD TO THE LEGAL CONFORMITY OF THE LOT, THIS IS A
21:43:39 PLATTED LOT OF RECORD.
21:43:42 THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BEEN CHANGED WITH THE DIMENSIONS
21:43:45 OF THIS LOT.
21:43:46 IT'S BEEN BUILDABLE SINCE THE LOT WAS PLATTED, THE
21:43:49 SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED.
21:43:51 IN EXCESS OF 50 YEARS AGO THAT I KNOW OF.
21:43:54 I'VE LIVED THERE THAT LONG.
21:43:56 SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE WAY OF A NONCONFORMITY THAT
21:43:59 WOULD CREATE A CHALLENGE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LOT.
21:44:02 THE PD THAT'S REQUESTED, YOU CAN BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY
21:44:09 HOME ON THIS LOT WITHOUT HAVING A PD ZONING.
21:44:13 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TREES ON THE LOT.
21:44:16 THERE'S SEVEN SIGNIFICANT TREES.
21:44:19 WE MEASURED THEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SURVEY.
21:44:22 THERE'S ABOUT 163 INCHES DBH OAK TREES ON THE PROPERTY.
21:44:27 THAT'S A LOT OF OAK TREES.
21:44:29 THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN PREPARED CONTEMPLATED THE REMOVAL
21:44:33 OF EVERY SINGLE TREE FROM THE LOT.
21:44:36 I'M AWARE THAT A REVISED SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED,
21:44:41 AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN NOW SHOWS ONE GRAND OAK, A
21:44:45 39-INCH GRAND OAK, TO REMAIN.
21:44:50 SPEAKING WITH THE CITY, THAT WAS VIEWED AS SOME SORT OF A
21:44:54 COMPROMISE.
21:44:56 I'M SURE YOU CAN APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR COMPROMISE IN
21:45:00 ZONING, BUT THE COMPROMISE FROM A PRETTY UNREMARKABLE
21:45:06 CONDITION TO START AND ONLY CREATE THE ONE REMAINING TREE
21:45:10 WITH ALL THE OTHERS COMPLETELY REMOVED DOES NOT SEEM TO
21:45:13 BE EQUITABLE NOR MATCHING THE SPIRIT OF ANY COOPERATION.
21:45:18 THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE SITE PLAN THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC,
21:45:24 IN ORDER TO BUILD ON THE LOT, THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING
21:45:28 TO RELOCATE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT ALL THE WAY BACK TO
21:45:33 THE LOT, TO THE REAR LOT LINE WITH A REAR SETBACK OF 12
21:45:37 FEET.
21:45:38 YOU-ALL ARE SITTING ON SIX-FOOT TABLES.
21:45:40 SO THE REAR SETBACK IS GOING TO BE THE WIDTH OF TWO
21:45:43 TABLES PUT TOGETHER.
21:45:45 THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH ANYTHING ELSE IN THE
21:45:49 NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:45:50 THE IMMEDIATE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST WHICH WERE INDEED
21:45:54 REZONED TWO YEARS AGO OR SO, THEY HAVE A 20 AND A 23-FOOT
21:45:58 SETBACK ON THEIR LOTS.
21:46:00 THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ADJACENT PROPERTY HAS A 20-FOOT
21:46:05 REAR YARD SETBACK.
21:46:06 SO ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENTS WE BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS
21:46:11 WOULD BE CONFORMITY WITH SETBACKS THAT MATCH THE ADJACENT
21:46:15 PROPERTIES.
21:46:15 THIS PETITION DOES NOT.
21:46:17 ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT'S TROUBLING IS THE DRAINAGE.
21:46:23 WITH THE REAR YARD SETBACK OF 12 FEET, DRAINAGE IN INFILL
21:46:27 PROPERTIES HAS TO DRAIN FROM THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY TO
21:46:31 THE FRONT.
21:46:32 I'VE BEEN A PROFESSIONAL CIVIL ENGINEER FOR 45 YEARS.
21:46:36 I'VE DONE HUNDREDS OF DRAINAGE PROJECTS, AND I CAN ASSURE
21:46:40 YOU THIS IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE TO COMPLY WITH.
21:46:43 IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO RAISE THE ELEVATION OF
21:46:46 THE REAR LOT TO GET WATER TO FLOW TO THE STREET.
21:46:50 WITH THE SITE PLAN SHOWN, YOU CAN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT.
21:46:54 THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT I HAVE TO OPPOSE THIS
21:47:00 PETITION, AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU GRANT THAT
21:47:04 PETITION'S PROPOSAL OF OPPOSITION.
21:47:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:47:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. DIAZ, YOUR TESTIMONY SEEMS TO BE
21:47:14 -- AND I RESPECT YOUR CREDENTIALS AS A CIVIL ENGINEER,
21:47:20 YOUR TESTIMONY SEEMS TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH SOME OF THE
21:47:23 OTHER TESTIMONY WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT FROM MS. SAMANIEGO AS
21:47:28 WELL AS FROM THE PETITIONER IN REGARD TO THE USE OF THIS
21:47:36 SORT OF ORPHANED LOT.
21:47:42 IT'S 45 FEET WIDE.
21:47:46 IT'S SORT OF LEFT OVER FROM THIS OTHER -- THESE OTHER TWO
21:47:51 LOTS IT WAS ORIGINALLY ATTACHED TO.
21:47:56 NOW IT'S ON ITS OWN.
21:47:59 YOU'RE SAYING IT COULD BE DEVELOPED AS A 45-FOOT LOT
21:48:02 WITHOUT THE PD AND THEY ARE SAYING THIS IS THE ONLY WAY
21:48:04 TO GO.
21:48:05 TELL ME WHAT I'M MISSING.
21:48:07 >> MR. DINGFELDER, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF LOTS IN THE
21:48:10 CITY THAT ARE RECORDED IN PLATTED SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE
21:48:14 LESS THAN 50 FEET.
21:48:15 THE REMAINING LOTS, THE MAJORITY OF LOTS, NOT ALL ARE
21:48:19 50-FOOT LOTS.
21:48:21 TWO 50-FOOT LOTS ACROSS THE STREET.
21:48:24 I DON'T AGREE THIS LOT IS ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE 50-FOOT
21:48:28 LOT, THE CONFORMITY.
21:48:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE
21:48:31 OTHERS HAVE HOMES THAT ARE VESTED ON THOSE LOTS.
21:48:36 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THIS ONE IS.
21:48:38 I ASSUME IT'S VACANT.
21:48:39 I DON'T KNOW.
21:48:41 >> THERE WAS A RESIDENCE ON THIS LOT YEARS AGO.
21:48:44 AND IT WOULD REQUIRE ARCHITECTURAL CHALLENGE AND A
21:48:48 BUILDING CHALLENGE, BUT CLEARLY A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE
21:48:52 CAN BE BUILT ON THIS LOT.
21:48:54 THE HARDSHIP HERE IS SELF-IMPOSED BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER
21:48:59 WILL ASK YOU TO REDUCE OR RELAX STANDARDS IN ORDER THAT
21:49:02 HE CAN MAKE SOME SORT OF INVESTMENT SUCCESSFUL.
21:49:05 THAT'S NOT A HARDSHIP THAT THE CITY HAS CREATED.
21:49:09 THE CITY RECORDED THE SUBDIVISION PLAT.
21:49:13 THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF RECORD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, SO
21:49:16 THERE'S NO HARDSHIP FOR THAT.
21:49:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I NEED TO GET MY CONFUSION CLARIFIED
21:49:20 BY MARY AND I'LL DO THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.
21:49:23 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE.
21:49:25 >> THANK YOU.
21:49:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:49:26 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
21:49:40 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
21:49:41 BRETT METCALF.
21:49:43 I AM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AT 3226 WEST OAKELLAR
21:49:47 AVENUE.
21:49:48 I LIVE THERE WITH MY WIFE, HOLLY, MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD SON
21:49:51 PARKER AND NINE-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER PENELOPE.
21:49:54 WE SHARE A BOUNDARY WITH THIS PROPERTY AND WE ARE ONE OF
21:49:57 THE TWO HOUSES THAT WAS RECENTLY DEVELOPED.
21:49:59 WE MOVED IN ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
21:50:01 WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS OURSELVES.
21:50:04 WE BOUGHT THE HOME FROM A BUILDER SO THEY WERE INVOLVED
21:50:07 IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND PERMITTING PROCESS, BUT WE DO
21:50:09 LIVE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY.
21:50:13 THE INTERESTING PROPOSAL THAT IT SEEMS HAS BEEN LAID OUT
21:50:18 HERE IS THAT WE'VE GOT TWO CHOICES.
21:50:20 YOU EITHER SAVE THE GRAND OAK THAT'S AT THE FRONT OF THE
21:50:23 PROPERTY OR YOU ALLOW FOR 12-FOOT SETBACK.
21:50:28 I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN EITHER-OR SITUATION BECAUSE WE
21:50:30 CAN DO -- YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY SAVE THE OAK TREE UP FRONT
21:50:35 AND HAVE A STANDARD SETBACK THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE
21:50:39 REST OF OUR COMMUNITY.
21:50:40 AS MR. DIAZ POINTED OUT A MOMENT AGO, THE HOUSES THAT ARE
21:50:46 IN OUR COMMUNITY, EVERY ONE THAT I CAN SEE, PARTICULARLY
21:50:50 WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY HAS A MINIMUM 20-FOOT SETBACK.
21:50:53 MINE MIGHT BE THE ONLY EXCEPTION WITH A 23-FOOT SETBACK.
21:50:57 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE ARE SMALLER LOTS
21:51:00 TO BEGIN WITH, AND FOR ANYBODY THAT'S DRIVEN THROUGH
21:51:03 SOUTH TAMPA OR IF ANY OF YOU LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THEY
21:51:07 BUILD TWO LARGER HOUSES NEXT TO EACH OTHER, IT CAN BEGIN
21:51:10 TO FEEL CROWDED.
21:51:11 AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE IN OUR FRONT YARD.
21:51:14 OUR 23-FOOT DEEP BACKYARD IS OUR SANCTUARY AWAY FROM THE
21:51:19 STREET.
21:51:19 IF THERE IS A 12-FOOT SETBACK WITH OUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE,
21:51:23 THAT IS GOING TO DRAMATICALLY IMPACT OUR PRIVACY IN OUR
21:51:28 ALREADY SMALL BACKYARD.
21:51:29 I KNOW ONE OF OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS WILL TESTIFY TO THAT AS
21:51:32 WELL.
21:51:32 THAT IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM AS WE SEE IT HERE IS THAT WHAT
21:51:36 IS BEING APPLIED FOR HERE AND REQUESTED IS A 12-FOOT
21:51:41 SETBACK AND A VARIANCE TO THE CITY CODE.
21:51:43 THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION CALLED FOR A 15-FOOT SETBACK OF
21:51:47 THAT REAR PROPERTY LINE.
21:51:48 THAT IS OUT OF LINE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT IS.
21:51:51 SO TO SUGGEST ANOTHER THREE FEET AND SHRINK THAT REAR LOT
21:51:55 EVEN FURTHER AND ENCROACH ON THE PRIVACY OF OUR PROPERTY
21:51:58 EVEN MORE I THINK IS, FRANKLY, COMPLETELY OUT OF
21:52:01 CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.
21:52:03 TWO SMALLER POINTS THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, THERE IS ON THE
21:52:12 EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY, THERE IS A TREE THAT
21:52:18 THE PLAN CALLS FOR THIS TREE TO BE REMOVED.
21:52:21 MY FENCE -- THIS IS THE BORDERING LINE OF OUR PROPERTY.
21:52:26 MY FENCE IS BOXED AROUND THIS TREE.
21:52:28 VISUALLY IT APPEARS THAT PART OF THE BASE OF THAT TRUNK
21:52:34 IS ACTUALLY ON MY PROPERTY ITSELF.
21:52:35 I BELIEVE THAT I HAVE A VESTED PROPERTY INTEREST IN THAT
21:52:38 TREE.
21:52:38 THE PLAN CALLS FOR THE TREE TO BE REMOVED ENTIRELY.
21:52:41 AS I SAID, WE'VE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED A FENCE THAT BOXES
21:52:44 AROUND THAT TREE.
21:52:46 MY HOUSE AND THE FOUNDATION OF MY HOUSE SITS ABOUT SEVEN
21:52:48 FEET AWAY FROM THAT OAK TREE.
21:52:50 I HAVE CONCERN THAT IF THE TREE IS REMOVED AND THE ROOTS
21:52:55 DECAY, THERE WILL BE A FOUNDATION PROBLEM THAT WILL CAUSE
21:52:58 PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.
21:52:59 A SMALLER ISSUE BUT STILL SOMETHING ON MY MIND IS WE PAID
21:53:04 A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH MONEY FOR SOME ARTIFICIAL TURF IN
21:53:07 OUR BACKYARD.
21:53:08 IF THAT SOIL SAGS, WE'LL HAVE TO REFILL THAT, TOO.
21:53:12 I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROOT SYSTEM IN THAT PARTICULAR
21:53:14 TREE IF IT IS REMOVED.
21:53:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:53:19 >> TWO MORE POINTS.
21:53:20 THE SITE PLAN CALLS FOR A SIDEWALK.
21:53:23 THERE IS NO SIDEWALK ON OAKELLAR ANYWHERE.
21:53:25 THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST SIDEWALK ON -- BETWEEN HIMES AND
21:53:30 MacDILL.
21:53:30 JUST FOR REFERENCE, I DID HAVE ONE LAST POINT I WANTED TO
21:53:34 SHOW TO YOU ON THE ELMO, IF I COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO
21:53:37 WORK THIS THING.
21:53:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.
21:53:41 >> THIS IS A PICTURE OF MY BACKYARD.
21:53:44 THAT'S THE 23 FEET DEEP, SIDE TO SIDE.
21:53:48 IF THIS HOUSE GOES WITH THE 12-FOOT SETBACK, THAT IS MY
21:53:55 ARTIST RENDERING OF AN IMAGE THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH OF MY
21:54:00 YARD WILL BE OVERTAKEN VISUALLY BY THE NEIGHBORING
21:54:06 STRUCTURE.
21:54:06 I THINK ULTIMATELY THE RESOLUTION AND THE WAY TO MAKE
21:54:08 THIS WORK, IF YOU DO APPROVE BUILDING A STRUCTURE ON THIS
21:54:12 PROPERTY IS TO JUST BUILD A SMALLER HOUSE.
21:54:16 SAVE THE TREE UP FRONT.
21:54:19 INSTEAD OF A 3200 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, THEY CAN BUILD A
21:54:22 24,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE JUST LIKE MINE IS AND IT WOULD
21:54:26 BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:54:27 THERE'S NO NEED FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A TINIER
21:54:30 BACKYARD THAT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT OUR PROPERTY.
21:54:32 I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL GIVING US THE TIME AND THE
21:54:35 SPACE HERE TO SPEAK.
21:54:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:54:37 NEXT SPEAKER.
21:54:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN ALTERNATE PODIUMS.
21:54:51 >> WONDERFUL SUGGESTION.
21:54:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
21:54:57 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
21:54:58 MY NAME IS CHARLES GODDARD.
21:55:01 I WANT TO SECOND THE OPPOSITION THAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM
21:55:04 MR. METCALF AND RICHARD PRIOR TO HIM.
21:55:07 I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
21:55:10 I'LL TRY TO MAKE THE COMMENTS BRIEF.
21:55:12 AGAIN, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE TIME AND, MOST
21:55:15 IMPORTANTLY, YOUR ATTENTION.
21:55:17 I RESIDE AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH
21:55:21 OF LOT 15 ALONG WITH MY WIFE, MY TWO-YEAR-OLD SON, MY
21:55:27 INFANT DAUGHTER AND THE BIGGEST LITTLE DOG ON THE STREET,
21:55:30 OUR BOSTON TERRIER.
21:55:33 I WANT TO PREFACE MY COMMENTS BY SAYING I'M NOT OPPOSED
21:55:35 TO DEVELOPMENT.
21:55:37 I'M ALL FOR IT.
21:55:39 I EVEN SUPPORT PETITIONER -- THE PETITION YOU HEARD
21:55:45 EARLIER, I SUPPORT THE MOTION WE HAD PRIOR TO THIS ITEM.
21:55:52 I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE SURGE OF NEW REPS BUILT HERE --
21:55:56 NEW RESIDENCES BUILT HERE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
21:55:58 IT'S NOT LOST ON ME THEY CAN CERTAINLY REVITALIZE OLDER
21:56:04 NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
21:56:05 I RESIDE AT THE LOT DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF LOT 15.
21:56:09 3303 WEST VILA ROSA.
21:56:12 I APPRECIATE AND I WELCOME NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND ALL OF
21:56:17 THE POSITIVE QUALITIES THAT THEY OFFER.
21:56:19 AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN A DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO CHANGE A
21:56:22 20-FOOT REAR SETBACK TO 12 FEET, THAT RAISES A RED FLAG.
21:56:27 I AM SURE THIS COUNCIL HEARS OFTEN, AND THIS IS CERTAINLY
21:56:32 NOT TO DISPARAGE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE TONIGHT, BUT
21:56:36 I'M SURE THIS COUNCIL HEARS OFTEN NEIGHBORS OBJECTING TO
21:56:39 NEW DEVELOPMENTS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF NIMBYISM OR THEY DON'T
21:56:43 WANT A NEW STRUCTURE ON A PREVIOUSLY VACANT PROPERTY.
21:56:46 I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS FAR FROM THAT.
21:56:49 AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, THIS NEW TWO-STORY HOUSE ON LOT 15
21:56:53 WILL BE 12-FOOT FROM THE REAR OF MY PROPERTY LINE.
21:56:57 AND AT 24 FEET HEIGHT, HAVE TWO WINDOWS DIRECTLY FACING
21:57:00 INTO THE LARGEST PANORAMIC WINDOW IN MY HOUSE, DIRECTLY
21:57:05 INTO MY LIVING ROOM.
21:57:08 NOT TO MENTION DIRECTLY INTO MY FAMILY'S SWIMMING POOL.
21:57:13 SAID DIFFERENTLY, THIS PROPOSED REAR SETBACK REDUCTION
21:57:23 WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT MY PRIVACY, THE AIRFLOW, THE VIEW,
21:57:27 AND SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER AND DETRACT FROM MY FAMILY'S USE
21:57:31 AND ENJOYMENT OF OUR PROPERTY.
21:57:34 ACCORDINGLY, I OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED REDUCTION OF THE
21:57:39 REAR SETBACK FROM 20 FEET TO 12 FEET BECAUSE IT WOULD
21:57:42 HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT UPON MY FAMILY'S USE
21:57:45 AND ENJOYMENT OF OUR PROPERTY THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE
21:57:49 GENERAL IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE OTHER LOTS IN THE
21:57:52 DISTRICT.
21:57:52 GIVEN THE ARTIST RENDITIONS, THE PANEL IS OPEN TO SEEING,
21:57:59 I'LL TAKE THIS MOMENT TO SHOW A FEW PICTURES.
21:58:02 THIS IS THE WINDOW FACING INTO OUR LIVING ROOM.
21:58:12 THIS IS THE VIEW FROM -- I'M STANDING ABOUT TEN FEET BACK
21:58:17 AND HOLDING MY CAMERA UP SIX FEET HIGH.
21:58:20 CERTAINLY AT 24 FEET HIGH YOU WOULD BE SEEING DIRECTLY
21:58:23 INTO THE LIVING ROOM AND INTO MY SWIMMING POOL.
21:58:26 THERE'S MY ARTIST RENDITION OF EXACTLY WHERE THAT HOUSE
21:58:30 WILL BE STANDING AND THE WINDOWS AND THE VIEW, WHAT THEY
21:58:34 WILL BE LOOKING INTO FOR OUR PROPERTY.
21:58:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:58:38 >> I'M NOT DONE.
21:58:39 THANK YOU.
21:58:40 AS A BIT OF BACKGROUND, WHEN I MOVED TO TAMPA A DECADE
21:58:45 AGO, I LIVED AT AN UPSCALED CONDO ON SOUTH HOWARD.
21:58:48 I ENJOYED COMING HOME FROM WORK TO MY BALCONY WHERE I
21:58:51 COULD WAVE DOWN FRIENDS AND CARRY ON CONVERSATIONS WITH
21:58:55 PASSERSBY WALKING BY.
21:58:57 BEFORE I DIGRESS, THE POINT IS, PRIVACY WAS NOT A
21:58:59 REASONABLE EXPECTATION.
21:59:01 IT CERTAINLY WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF
21:59:03 THAT COMMUNITY.
21:59:04 THEN I MET MY WIFE AND WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO START A
21:59:08 FAMILY.
21:59:09 WE WANTED TO LIVE IN A PRIVATE FAMILY FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.
21:59:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
21:59:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR THREE MINUTES WERE UP.
21:59:17 >> OH, THREE MINUTES.
21:59:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
21:59:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
21:59:21 ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
21:59:22 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
21:59:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
21:59:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR, BEFORE WE GO TO
21:59:31 REBUTTAL.
21:59:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. SAMANIEGO, I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE
21:59:39 CONFUSED, AND IT'S MY FAULT, ON THE PRESENTATION, WHAT
21:59:44 YOU SAID AND THEN WHAT MR. DIAZ SAID.
21:59:49 IS THIS A VESTED BUILDABLE LOT AT 45 FEET RIGHT NOW?
21:59:54 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
21:59:55 FOR ONE, IT'S NOT A 45-FOOT WIDE LOT.
21:59:58 IT'S A 50-FOOT WIDE LOT.
22:00:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, EXCUSE ME.
22:00:01 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO, IT'S NOT A VESTED LOT.
22:00:04 IT WAS NOT LEGALLY CREATED SO IT CANNOT BE DEVELOPED
22:00:07 TODAY.
22:00:08 THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE, STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES, IT'S A
22:00:13 DEVELOPABLE -- IT IS A LOT OF RECORD.
22:00:17 BUT AS YOUR CODE STATES, IF A LOT OF RECORD, IF MULTIPLE
22:00:21 LOTS OF RECORD ADJOIN AND THEY ARE OWNED BY A SINGLE
22:00:25 OWNER, THEY ARE CONSIDERED ONE ZONING LOT.
22:00:27 YOU SEE TWO OR THREE CASES EVERY MONTH WHERE SOMEBODY IS
22:00:31 COMING IN.
22:00:32 THEY OWN TWO OR THREE PLATTED LOTS.
22:00:34 THEY CANNOT SUBDIVIDE UNDER THE CURRENT CODE SO THEY COME
22:00:39 IN TO GO FROM RS 60 TO RS 50 BECAUSE THE PLATTED LOTS
22:00:44 DON'T MEET THE CURRENT CODE.
22:00:46 SO WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS OWNED -- THIS LOT WAS OWNED
22:00:49 WITH THE LOTS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, THEY WERE
22:00:53 NONCONFORMING LOTS UNDER SINGLE OWNERSHIP.
22:00:55 WHEN THOSE LOTS WERE SOLD TO THE NEW PARTIES, THIS LOT
22:00:59 BECAME NONCONFORMING, NOT BECAUSE IT HAS A 50-FOOT LOT
22:01:04 WIDTH WHICH IS CONFORMING BUT IT'S ONLY 90 FEET DEEP.
22:01:08 THEREFORE DOES NOT MEET THE RS 50 MINIMUM LOT AREA OF
22:01:12 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
22:01:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE SAYING, THEREFORE, IT NEEDS --
22:01:19 IT CAN'T DO RS 50, SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE BUILDABLE, IT
22:01:22 WOULD NEED TO BE A PD.
22:01:24 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
22:01:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT NECESSARILY THIS PD.
22:01:27 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
22:01:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE MORE QUESTION TO OUR ARBORIST.
22:01:37 BILL, YOU GOT OFF EASY TONIGHT UNTIL NOW.
22:01:44 THERE'S A LOT OF TREES ON THIS PARCEL AND THERE ARE TREES
22:01:50 ADJACENT TO IT.
22:01:51 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE DRAWING THAT MARY COULD PUT
22:01:56 UP WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT
22:02:00 THESE TREES.
22:02:03 IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THAT ONE IN THE FRONT, 39-INCHER IS
22:02:16 IMPACTING THE PROPOSED HOME AND THEORETICALLY I GUESS
22:02:20 PUSHING IT BACK.
22:02:25 >> BILL BORES, NATURAL RESOURCES.
22:02:28 THE 39-INCH TREE, IT'S A LIVE OAK.
22:02:33 WE CAN GET THE CANOPY TO FIT THE PROPOSED HOME BECAUSE
22:02:37 THE BULK OF THE LARGER LIMBS ARE FACING TO THE NORTH AND
22:02:40 TO THE WEST.
22:02:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU.
22:02:45 >> MAYBE I HOLD THIS.
22:02:46 WE CAN GET THE 39-INCH TREE TO FIT THE LOT BECAUSE THE
22:02:50 BULK OF THE BRANCHES ARE FACING NORTH AND WEST AWAY FROM
22:02:53 THE HOME.
22:02:56 AND JUST AS IMPORTANT, WE CAN GET THE ROOT SYSTEM TO FIT
22:03:01 BY SHIFTING THE HOME THREE FEET.
22:03:02 THE CODE ALLOWS A 40% REDUCTION IN THE 24 BACKYARD,
22:03:10 SECTION 27-156 SAYS YOU CAN DO THAT.
22:03:13 IN ORDER TO GET THE TREE TO FIT, THE PROPOSAL WAS TO MOVE
22:03:18 THE HOME A MERE THREE FEET AWAY FROM THE TREE TO GET THE
22:03:23 PROTECTION ZONE, THE TREE PROTECTION ZONE INTACT.
22:03:28 YOU SAVE THE ROOT SYSTEM.
22:03:29 IT'S A LIVE OAK.
22:03:30 IT'S A NICE TREE.
22:03:33 I MET THE APPLICANT OUT THERE.
22:03:35 I SAID, THIS TREE COULD BE SAVED.
22:03:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY IS THERE AN X ON THE DRAWING.
22:03:40 THE DRAWING I LOOKED AT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS PICTURE.
22:03:45 >> ORIGINALLY, IT WAS GOING TO -- THE PROPOSAL WAS TO
22:03:47 REMOVE THE TREE.
22:03:50 NOW THE PROPOSAL IS BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND READING
22:03:53 TO PRESERVE THAT TREE AND PLACE A NOTCH IN THE NORTHWEST
22:03:58 CORNER OF THE HOUSE.
22:04:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHOSE SUGGESTION WAS THAT TO GO TO THE
22:04:03 SECOND PROPOSAL, WHICH SAVES THE TREE BUT PUSHES IT BACK?
22:04:11 >> BRIAN KNOX WAS ON THE SITE BEFORE ME.
22:04:15 THEN I WAS ON THE SITE TO MEET THE APPLICANT.
22:04:17 WE BOTH CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS SEPARATELY TO WORK
22:04:21 TO SAVE THAT TREE ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
22:04:24 39-INCH GRAND LIVE OAK.
22:04:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN,
22:04:29 WHICH IS TO REMOVE THE 39-INCH TREE, SLIDE THE HOME
22:04:32 FORWARD SO THE REAR IS CONSISTENT.
22:04:36 WELL, HERE IT SHOWS 15 FEET, WHICH IS NOT CONSISTENT.
22:04:40 >> YEAH, THE PROPOSAL WAS TO MOVE IT THREE FEET.
22:04:44 THE PROPOSAL WAS TO MOVE IT THREE FEET TO THE SOUTH.
22:04:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
22:04:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:04:52 >> THE TREE ON THE EAST SIDE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE
22:04:54 NEIGHBOR ON THE EAST, IT'S A C-9.
22:04:59 IT IS A HIGH HAZARD TREE.
22:05:02 IT HAS HOLLOWS AND DECAY.
22:05:04 IF THE CONCERN WAS THE ROOT SYSTEM DECAYING OVER TIME, IT
22:05:08 TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THE ROOT SYSTEM TO DECAY.
22:05:10 IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE IS A VOID IN THE SOIL, HE CAN
22:05:15 PACK THAT DOWN SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
22:05:17 I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE TREE GOING THROUGH THE HOUSE,
22:05:20 THE NEW HOUSE ON THE EAST SIDE.
22:05:22 THE BRANCHES -- IT IS A BRITTLE LAUREL OAK.
22:05:25 YOU CAN SEE THE HOLLOWS IN IT.
22:05:28 IT SHOULD NOT STAY.
22:05:30 IT'S ON THIS PROPERTY.
22:05:32 HE DID BUILD HIS FENCE AROUND IT BUT IT'S A TREE THAT
22:05:36 SHOULD GO JUST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
22:05:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
22:05:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
22:05:43 >> MS. SAMANIEGO, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
22:05:46 YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS A FEW
22:05:49 YEARS AGO TO SPLIT THIS INTO THREE SECTIONS.
22:05:52 IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE PAST RECORD -- LEGAL, STOP ME IF
22:05:57 I CAN'T ASK THIS -- ANYTHING IN THE PAST RECORD THAT
22:06:00 SHOWS WHY THEY DIDN'T ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME.
22:06:02 WHY DID THEY ONLY DO TWO OF THEM?
22:06:04 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO --
22:06:06 >>BILL CARLSON: WAS IT REJECTED OR NOT?
22:06:08 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: NO.
22:06:09 JUST THE APPLICANT CHOSE TO ONLY CREATE -- I CAN'T SPEAK
22:06:13 TO IT.
22:06:14 I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE.
22:06:16 IT WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL PD, THIS PROPERTY WAS
22:06:19 NOT.
22:06:19 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
22:06:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:06:21 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
22:06:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 50-FOOT WIDE BUT 90 FEET DEEP.
22:06:30 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.
22:06:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 4500 FEET.
22:06:35 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
22:06:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, THE
22:06:38 SETBACK, IF IT WAS A HUNDRED FOOT THIS LOT IS A BUILDABLE
22:06:41 LOT BUT 500 SHORT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BEING A REAL
22:06:45 BUILDABLE LOT, CORRECT?
22:06:46 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: CORRECT.
22:06:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PROBLEM IS THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE.
22:06:53 IT'S A BUILDABLE LOT BUT IT'S NOT A BUILDABLE LOT.
22:06:57 DEPENDS HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
22:07:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
22:07:06 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
22:07:08 DID I ASK IF THERE WAS ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
22:07:21 >> AILEEN ROSARIO DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT,
22:07:23 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
22:07:26 THANK YOU.
22:07:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:07:27 DO YOU HAVE REBUTTAL, SIR?
22:07:32 >> I DO.
22:07:33 I BELIEVE THAT MOST OF MY REBUTTAL POINTS HAVE BEEN
22:07:37 COVERED BY THE CITY ALREADY.
22:07:40 WITH RESPECT TO THE RS 50 DESIGNATION, IT IS, IN FACT,
22:07:45 NOT A BUILDABLE LOT REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE
22:07:47 JUST BECAUSE IT IS ZONED RS 50.
22:07:50 IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A HOUSE, IT WILL REQUIRE A PD
22:07:53 REGARDLESS.
22:07:55 WITH RESPECT TO THE SETBACKS, AGAIN, BECAUSE THE LOT IS A
22:07:58 REDUCED SIZE, DUE TO THE PRIOR PD DESIGNATION SORT OF
22:08:02 LEAVING THIS ORPHANED LOT, A VARIANCE IS GOING TO BE TO
22:08:06 SOME DEGREE NECESSARY JUST TO MAKE IT USABLE.
22:08:09 AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH --
22:08:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT
22:08:13 POINT?
22:08:13 >> YOU MAY.
22:08:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY GUESS IS EVERYBODY ALONG THERE HAS
22:08:17 90-FOOT LOTS.
22:08:19 >> CORRECT.
22:08:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
22:08:21 SO THE SPLITTING OF THOSE THREE LOTS SPLIT THEM, THEIR
22:08:27 WIDTH, BUT IT DIDN'T IMPACT THE DEPTH.
22:08:30 >> IT DID NOT IMPACT THE DEPTH BUT IT DID IMPACT THE
22:08:33 TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WHICH LEFT IT SHORT OF THE RS 50.
22:08:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE
22:08:39 SAME PAGE.
22:08:40 >> CORRECT.
22:08:41 THE LOTS THAT WERE RS 50 ARE WIDER THAN THE 50 FEET
22:08:45 BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
22:08:48 HERE WE HAVE 50 FEET, ESSENTIALLY ONLY 50 FEET, WHICH
22:08:51 LEAVES IT SHORT OF THE 5,000 NECESSARY.
22:08:55 WITH RESPECT TO THE SETBACK, REGARDLESS, REQUIRE A
22:09:00 VARIANCE AS FAR AS THE SETBACK IS CONCERNED.
22:09:02 IT'S REALLY A CHOICE BETWEEN THAT OAK AND THE SETBACK IN
22:09:05 THE REAR.
22:09:07 HERE, WE'VE CHOSEN THE OAK WITH THE REVISED PLAN.
22:09:10 OF COURSE, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO NOT CHOOSING THAT, BUT THE
22:09:14 PREFERENCE, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN
22:09:16 THE CITY WOULD BE TO PRESERVE THE OAK.
22:09:18 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
22:09:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL
22:09:22 MEMBERS?
22:09:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.
22:09:28 THIS IS SORT OF BIBLICAL CHOOSING BETWEEN ONE OR THE
22:09:32 OTHER.
22:09:35 I THINK IF WE DIDN'T -- SOMETIMES A PARTICULAR
22:09:39 NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT VALUE THE TREE, ESPECIALLY A FRONT
22:09:43 YARD TREE AND SAY, YEAH, SURE, GO AHEAD AND SLIDE TO THE
22:09:47 REAR.
22:09:48 WHEN JOE AND I WERE ON THE VRB, I OFTEN ADVOCATED TO
22:09:54 SLIDE STRUCTURES AROUND TO SAVE A TREE.
22:09:56 BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU'VE GOT NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE
22:10:00 THAT HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT.
22:10:02 YOUNG CHILDREN, PRIVACY, POOLS, ET CETERA.
22:10:07 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY ALONG THAT STREET SAY SAVE THE
22:10:12 TREE.
22:10:12 I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD REPUTATION FOR BEING A TREE HUGGER,
22:10:17 IN THIS CASE, I THINK I'M MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD HUGGER.
22:10:21 I DON'T KNOW.
22:10:22 IT ALSO APPEARS THAT YOU HAD A PLAN THAT WAS WILLING TO
22:10:31 SACRIFICE THE TREE AND SLIDE IT FORWARD.
22:10:33 ALTHOUGH, FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEIR HOMES
22:10:36 ARE BUILT, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THEY ARE SAYING THEY HAVE
22:10:39 20-FOOT REAR SETBACKS AND YOU'RE ONLY OFFERING 15 ON THAT
22:10:44 OTHER SITE PLAN.
22:10:48 >> THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, AGAIN, DUE TO THE REDUCED
22:10:51 SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LOT.
22:10:52 THE ORIGINAL PLAN STILL HAD THE 15-FOOT SETBACK RATHER
22:10:55 THAN THE 12-FOOT SETBACK.
22:10:57 AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SURROUNDING LOTS CURRENTLY
22:10:59 HAVE THE ENJOYMENT OF A VACANT LOT, BUT THE GENERAL
22:11:04 BENEFIT OF THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE THE
22:11:06 DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LOT IN SOME WAY OTHER THAN JUST
22:11:09 HAVING IT LIE FALLOW.
22:11:11 AGAIN, BECAUSE IT IS UNBUILDABLE WITHOUT A PD
22:11:14 DESIGNATION.
22:11:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
22:11:16 YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL SITE
22:11:20 PLAN.
22:11:21 >> WE WOULD.
22:11:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND ELIMINATING THAT.
22:11:24 THAT'S JUST ME.
22:11:25 THERE'S SEVEN OF US.
22:11:28 I DON'T KNOW.
22:11:29 >> FRANKLY, EITHER PLAN WILL WORK FOR THE APPLICANT.
22:11:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
22:11:36 >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL, STOP ME IF I CAN'T ASK THIS
22:11:40 QUESTION.
22:11:40 UNDERSTANDING THE CURRENT SITUATION OF THE PROPERTY, WHY
22:11:47 WOULD SOMEBODY BUY IT?
22:11:49 WAS THERE ANOTHER EXPECTATION OF WHAT WOULD BE DONE WITH
22:11:51 IT OR WAS IT ALWAYS THE EXPECTATION --
22:11:56 >> REALLY, THE ONLY EXPECTATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
22:11:58 WOULD BE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
22:12:01 EVERYTHING AROUND IS, AGAIN, RS 50, DETACHED
22:12:04 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
22:12:05 THERE'S NO OTHER PRACTICAL USE FOR THE PROPERTY OTHER
22:12:08 THAN THAT.
22:12:09 AGAIN, DOING ANYTHING ELSE -- IT ESSENTIALLY HAS TO BE PD
22:12:16 RESIDENTIAL OR NOTHING AT ALL AT THIS POINT, IF THAT
22:12:20 MAKES ANY SENSE.
22:12:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, IF I CAN, BEFORE THE
22:12:25 PETITIONER FINISHES HIS REBUTTAL, JUST REMINDER COUNCIL
22:12:29 THE CONCEPT OF A PD.
22:12:31 THE PD REQUIREMENTS IN CHAPTER 27 AND WHAT MAKES THIS
22:12:35 SPACE UNIQUE AND REQUIREMENT OF WHAT IS BROUGHT BEFORE
22:12:39 YOU AND ALSO REMINDING YOU THAT WHEN YOU EVALUATE A PD,
22:12:45 IT'S THE CONSISTENCY WITH REGARD TO HEIGHT, MASS, SCALE,
22:12:53 COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:12:55 SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE REMINDED TO FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION
22:12:58 ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 27 WHEN YOU DO YOUR
22:13:02 EVALUATIONS AS OPPOSED TO LET'S SAY THE EXPECTATIONS OF
22:13:06 SALE.
22:13:06 SO IF YOU COULD FOCUS ON THAT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY
22:13:09 QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER OR ANY OTHER WITNESSES,
22:13:12 THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD BE BEST ABLE TO FOCUS YOUR
22:13:15 ATTENTION.
22:13:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
22:13:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. WELLS, GO AHEAD AND THEN
22:13:23 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
22:13:23 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
22:13:26 JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THE
22:13:29 DISCUSSION ABOUT REMOVING THE GRAND TREE THAT'S IN THE
22:13:31 FRONT OF THE YARD.
22:13:32 IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE AND IT HAS NOT
22:13:38 BEEN INCLUDED IN TONIGHT'S PETITION AS A REQUEST FOR
22:13:42 WAIVER.
22:13:43 MR. BORES CONFIRMED FOR ME IT IS A NON-HAZARDOUS GRAND
22:13:47 TREE.
22:13:48 IN YOUR PD SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS, WHENEVER AN APPLICANT
22:13:52 IS REQUESTING TO REMOVE A NON-HAZARDOUS GRAND TREE IT
22:13:56 SHOWS UP AS A WAIVER.
22:13:57 IT HAS NOT BEEN NOTICED FOR THAT PURPOSE THIS EVENING.
22:14:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT, THE LEGAL
22:14:03 IMPACT?
22:14:05 >>CATE WELLS: WE ARE DELAYED.
22:14:06 THEY WOULD HAVE TO RENOTICE WITH THAT REQUEST FOR A
22:14:13 WAIVER TO REMOVE A NON-HAZARDOUS GRAND TREE.
22:14:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
22:14:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT CHANGES MY -- BUT NOT ENOUGH TO SAY.
22:14:25 THE CONCERNS WITH YOUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS TO ME SOUNDS
22:14:29 LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT TEN POUNDS OF MUD INTO A
22:14:33 FIVE-POUND SACK.
22:14:35 WOULD YOU CONSIDER GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND
22:14:37 REDESIGNING YOUR HOUSE SO MAYBE YOU MIGHT BE A FRIENDLY
22:14:40 NEIGHBOR?
22:14:41 >> TO THE EXTENT IT WOULD IMPACT THE CONSISTENCY OF THE
22:14:47 HOME, WE WOULD LIKELY BE TALKING ABOUT A SUBSTANTIALLY
22:14:49 SMALLER HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH COULD ACTUALLY MAKE
22:14:52 THAT A BIT INCONSISTENT --
22:14:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I GATHER THAT.
22:14:56 MOST NEW HOME BUILDING WANT TO GET THE BEST BANG OF THE
22:15:00 BUCK, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
22:15:02 I'M JUST OFFERING UP A SUGGESTION.
22:15:04 THANK YOU.
22:15:05 >> UNDERSTOOD.
22:15:05 MAY I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE GRAND
22:15:09 OAK.
22:15:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
22:15:10 THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT OUT.
22:15:11 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MENTIONED THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD
22:15:14 ANYBODY HERE SAYING SAVE THE TREE.
22:15:16 PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS LIKELY THAT THE PLAN FOR
22:15:21 HEARING PRESERVES THE TREE.
22:15:22 IT'S VERY LIKELY AT SOME POINT WE'D HAVE SOMEBODY HERE TO
22:15:25 SAVE THE TREE HAD WE SUGGESTED REMOVING THE TREE.
22:15:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANTED TO ALSO HE
22:15:35 ITERATE AND -- REITERATE AND THANK YOU, MR. CITRO, FOR
22:15:39 YOUR COMMENTS, WHAT MR. MIRANDA SAID, WHICH I THINK IS
22:15:42 VERY POIGNANT, IS THAT ULTIMATELY WE DON'T WANT TO DENY
22:15:49 ANYBODY THE RIGHT TO BUILD A HOUSE, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT
22:15:53 MR. MIRANDA SAID WAS, BUT MAYBE IT COULD BE A SMALLER
22:15:57 HOUSE.
22:15:58 MR. CITRO I THINK IMPLIED THAT AS WELL.
22:16:02 THERE'S NOT ANY REQUIREMENT TO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
22:16:04 SQUARE FEET THIS IS.
22:16:06 I COULDN'T FIND IT ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT YOUR NEIGHBORS
22:16:09 INDICATE MAYBE IT'S 3,000 PLUS.
22:16:12 AND THERE'S NO LEGAL CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW
22:16:17 A 3,000 -- ESPECIALLY, ON A LOT THAT YOU ADMIT IS
22:16:22 DEFICIENT TO START WITH AND FRANKLY NOT EVEN BUILDABLE
22:16:27 TODAY.
22:16:28 THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THERE TO THINK ABOUT.
22:16:31 MAYBE YOU WANT A CONTINUANCE TO REVISIT THOSE.
22:16:34 >> UNDERSTOOD.
22:16:35 WITH THAT IN MIND, I BELIEVE -- MAY I HAVE THIS MOMENT TO
22:16:39 SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT?
22:17:08 >> WE ARE AMENABLE TO A CONTINUANCE.
22:17:13 THE COMMENT I'LL HAVE TO MAKE ABOUT THAT AS WELL IS EVEN
22:17:16 REDUCING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE IS LIKELY GOING TO
22:17:19 REQUIRE SOME VARIANCE WITH RESPECT TO THE SETBACK IN THE
22:17:21 BACK.
22:17:22 IT'S NOT LIKELY WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET BOTH 20 FEET AND
22:17:26 SAVE THE GRAND OAK AND HAVE ANYTHING CONSISTENT WITH
22:17:30 RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:17:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY COMMENT EARLIER WAS WE MIGHT NOT BE
22:17:34 ABLE TO SAVE THAT OAK.
22:17:37 BUT I GUESS THAT'S YET TO BE SEEN.
22:17:40 >> UNDERSTOOD.
22:17:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WISH TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE?
22:17:48 >> YES, PARDON ME.
22:17:48 WE DO WISH TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE.
22:17:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNTIL WHEN?
22:17:52 >> OUR NEXT MEETING, I THINK WE COULD HAVE THAT READY BY
22:17:56 DECEMBER IF IT'S AVAILABLE.
22:18:01 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.
22:18:02 YOUR NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING IS MARCH 11.
22:18:06 >> MARCH 11, IT WOULD BE THEN.
22:18:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:18:09 MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MARCH 11 AT 6 P.M.
22:18:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
22:18:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
22:18:15 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
22:18:17 ANY IN FAVOR?
22:18:18 ANY OPPOSED?
22:18:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
22:18:22 I SAW SOME PAIN IN THE PROPERTY OWNER'S FACE WHEN HE
22:18:27 HEARD MARCH.
22:18:28 HE'S PROBABLY GOT CARRYING COSTS IF HE ALREADY OWNS THIS
22:18:33 THING.
22:18:34 IS IT UNDER CONTRACT OR YOU OWN IT ALREADY?
22:18:38 YOU OWN IT ALREADY.
22:18:41 HE'S GOT CARRYING COSTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
22:18:44 MR. GUDES, WE COULD MAYBE SQUEEZE HIM INTO FEBRUARY JUST
22:18:48 TO TRY AND BE A LITTLE MORE ACCOMMODATING.
22:18:51 THAT'S UP TO YOU.
22:18:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, WHAT I'VE GOT ON MY MIND
22:19:01 RIGHT NOW -- THAT WOULD BE FINE.
22:19:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD JUST BE MY SUGGESTION TO
22:19:11 COUNCIL.
22:19:11 I UNDERSTAND WE TRY AND LIMIT OUR NUMBER OF ITEMS.
22:19:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY ITEMS ON FEBRUARY 11?
22:19:22 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YOU ALREADY HAVE 13 CASES FOR FEBRUARY
22:19:25 11.
22:19:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT
22:19:28 WE'RE WORKING ON MAYBE WORKING WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO
22:19:31 GET A TOTAL NUMBER.
22:19:32 THOSE ARE 13 LAND USE REZONING CASES.
22:19:36 IT DOESN'T INCLUDE NECESSARILY WHAT MAY BE COMP PLAN
22:19:39 AMENDMENTS.
22:19:40 IT MAY NOT BE REVIEW HEARINGS.
22:19:42 I CANNOT TELL YOU.
22:19:42 I CAN LOOK AT THE CALENDAR FOR FEBRUARY.
22:19:48 I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT ACTUALLY IS ON THERE.
22:19:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S LEAVE IT FOR MARCH BECAUSE
22:19:53 WE'RE JUST LOADED UP.
22:19:57 WE VOTED ON THE MOTION.
22:20:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ASK FOR THE COUNT AGAIN.
22:20:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR OF MARCH 11 AT 6 P.M.?
22:20:10 ANY OPPOSED?
22:20:12 GREAT.
22:20:12 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:20:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME A LITTLE LATITUDE,
22:20:20 I NEED TO LEAVE.
22:20:23 MY COMMUNITY, MY DISTRICT IS HURTING RIGHT NOW.
22:20:25 I GOT OFF WITH A PRESS CONFERENCE.
22:20:28 WE HAD ANOTHER SHOOTING, THIS ONE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
22:20:31 FIVE INJURED.
22:20:33 TWO OR THREE DEAD.
22:20:34 I NEED TO GET OUT THERE TO THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.
22:20:37 I'VE GOT SEVERAL CALLS.
22:20:38 THAT'S WHY I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH.
22:20:40 IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO MAKE ONE QUICK MOTION IN
22:20:43 REFERENCE TO --
22:20:47 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO
22:20:49 THE SECOND PLACE WINNER IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS
22:20:52 SLASH FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES "IF YOU WERE A MAYOR"
22:20:57 ESSAY CONTEST TO BRADY COFFEY KELLER FROM THE LLT ACADEMY
22:20:59 IN TAMPA.
22:21:00 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS COMMENDATION ON 12/10/20 AT THE
22:21:05 EVENING SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL.
22:21:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
22:21:08 GUDES.
22:21:09 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:21:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:21:13 OPPOSED?
22:21:13 HEARING NONE, MOTION PASSES.
22:21:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
22:21:17 AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED EVERYBODY ON
22:21:19 BOARD.
22:21:20 THE COMMUNITY IS HURTING NOW AND WE'LL NEED EVERYBODY ON
22:21:23 BOARD TO FIGURE OUT THE VIOLENCE GOING ON AT THIS
22:21:27 PARTICULAR TIME.
22:21:31 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DOES THIS DO TO OUR QUORUM?
22:21:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE FIVE.
22:21:39 YOU'RE OKAY.
22:21:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 12.
22:21:45 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
22:21:46 RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATE.
22:21:48 REZ 20-58.
22:21:50 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3408 WEST WALL
22:21:55 CRAFT AVENUE.
22:21:55 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS
22:21:59 60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL
22:22:02 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
22:22:04 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE REPORT AND
22:22:08 RETURN TO ME TO FINISH MINE?
22:22:10 MS. MALONE.
22:22:23 >>JENNIFER MALONE: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
22:22:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
22:22:26 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
22:22:30 SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD GENERALLY.
22:22:32 IT'S LOCATED EAST OF SOUTH HIMES AVENUE.
22:22:34 SELMON EXPRESSWAY IS IN THE AREA AS WELL.
22:22:37 WE HAVE THE SOUTH TAMPA YMCA RIGHT HERE.
22:22:40 WITHIN THE AREA.
22:22:43 THE GREEN IS REPRESENTING THE RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE THE
22:22:46 YMCA AND LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS.
22:22:49 ORANGE IS RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
22:22:52 WHICH -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS CONSISTENT
22:22:56 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:22:58 THE DENSITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD BE 5.71 UNITS PER
22:23:02 ACRE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD
22:23:04 DENSITY AND BELOW THE RESIDENTIAL 10 MAXIMUM DENSITY.
22:23:08 THIS WOULD NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
22:23:12 AND IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THE EXISTING STREET
22:23:15 BLOCK AND LOT CONFIGURATION.
22:23:16 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
22:23:19 THANK YOU.
22:23:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:23:21 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
22:23:25 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS FILE REZ 20-58.
22:23:29 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 3408
22:23:32 WEST WALLCRAFT AVENUE AGAIN FROM RS 60 TO PD TO ALLOW FOR
22:23:38 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT.
22:23:40 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED THREE LOTS TO THE WEST OF WEST
22:23:42 WALLCRAFT AVENUE AND SOUTH LYNWOOD AVENUE INTERSECTION ON
22:23:44 THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST WALLCRAFT AVENUE.
22:23:47 THE REQUIRED MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IN THE RS 60 ZONING
22:23:50 DISTRICT IS 60 FEET WITH A 6,000-SQUARE-FOOT MINIMUM LOT
22:23:54 AREA.
22:23:54 THE PLATTED LOT 21 MEASURES 53 FEET BY 145.5 FEET WITH A
22:24:00 TOTAL AREA OF 7,713.6 SQUARE FEET AND THE PLATTED LOT, 22
22:24:06 MEASURES 53 FEET BY 145 FEET FOR A TOTAL AREA OF 7,685
22:24:11 SQUARE FEET.
22:24:12 THE SETBACKS FOR LOT 21 AND LOT 22 ARE NORTH 25 FEET FOR
22:24:16 THE FRONT PORCH, 30 FEET FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE, SOUTH 20
22:24:21 FEET, EAST 7 FEET, AND WEST 7 FEET.
22:24:24 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 35 FEET.
22:24:27 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT RS 60
22:24:31 TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST WITH DETACHED
22:24:34 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE STRUCTURES.
22:24:37 THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING ONE WAIVER.
22:24:41 IT COMES FROM SECTION 27-284.2.5 F-1.
22:24:45 THAT'S FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE NON-HAZARDOUS GRAND LIVE
22:24:48 OAK, A 33-INCH LOCATED NEAR THE CENTER OF THE LOT OF THE
22:24:52 PD PLAN AS SHOWN.
22:24:54 ALSO DID GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF REASONABLE
22:24:55 RECONFIGURATION DESIGNS WITH THE RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AND
22:24:59 THERE IS A GRAND TREE EVALUATION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
22:25:02 SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE NATURAL RESOURCES
22:25:04 HERE TO ANSWER THOSE.
22:25:05 THE LYNWOOD SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1924
22:25:16 WITH LOTS THAT VARIED FROM WIDTHS FROM 47.5 TO 117.8 FEET
22:25:22 AND DEPTH FROM 100 FEET TO 146.8 FEET.
22:25:25 OVERALL SUBDIVISION INCLUDED 13 BLOCKS.
22:25:28 SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON LOTS 21 AND 22 OF BLOCK 13.
22:25:32 THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES THE LYNWOOD
22:25:35 SUBDIVISION.
22:25:36 THE AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDED 361 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 198
22:25:41 OR 55% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF
22:25:44 60 FEET OR GREATER AND 163 OR 45% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED
22:25:48 WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
22:25:52 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
22:25:54 PATTERN, THE SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 12 TOTAL ZONING LOTS,
22:25:58 2 OR 17% OF THE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
22:26:02 GREATER OR 10 OR 83% DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 59.99
22:26:06 FEET OR LESS.
22:26:07 THE 3400 BLOCK OF WEST WALLCRAFT AVENUE, WHICH IS BOTH
22:26:11 SIDES OF THE STREET, CONTAINS NINE TOTAL ZONING LOTS OR
22:26:15 FOUR OR 44% OF THE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET
22:26:18 OR GREATER AND 5 OR 56 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
22:26:21 OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
22:26:24 THE BLOCK FACE ITSELF CONTAINS FIVE TOTAL ZONING LOTS
22:26:27 WITH ONE OF THEM, OR 20% OF THOSE BEING DEVELOPED WITH A
22:26:30 LOT WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND 4, 80%, BEING
22:26:34 DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
22:26:37 BASED UPON THIS ANALYSIS, STAFF DID FIND THE PROPOSED
22:26:40 REQUESTED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
22:26:42 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
22:26:45 SHOULD COUNCIL APPROVE THIS ON FIRST READING, THERE IS A
22:26:47 REVISION SHEET THAT WE REQUEST THAT YOU INCLUDE IN YOUR
22:26:51 PETITION -- I'M SORRY, YOUR MOTION, AGAIN, THE
22:26:54 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
22:26:57 APPLICATION.
22:26:57 WE DO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
22:26:59 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
22:27:00 PLEASE REFER TO THE FINDINGS OF THE DEVELOPMENT
22:27:02 COORDINATION IN RELATION TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
22:27:05 PATTERN.
22:27:05 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
22:27:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
22:27:09 NO.
22:27:11 GO AHEAD, SIR.
22:27:11 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD EVENING.
22:27:13 STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
22:27:16 LET ME GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF PHOTOGRAPHS HERE.
22:27:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, WOULD IT BE
22:27:21 ADVISABLE TO INFORM THE NEXT APPLICANTS COMING UP THAT WE
22:27:26 ONLY HAVE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT?
22:27:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT APPLICANT IS MR. MICHELINI.
22:27:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SEE THAT.
22:27:35 I'M SPEAKING NOT ONLY FOR MR. MICHELINI BUT ANYONE THAT
22:27:39 COMES AFTER HIM.
22:27:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYONE OUTSIDE IN THE LOBBY?
22:27:42 I SEE ONE PERSON.
22:27:43 WE HAVE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT.
22:27:48 JUST AN FYI TO THOSE WHO WILL BE PRESENTING IN THE NEXT
22:27:51 FEW CASES HERE, JUST SO THEY KNOW.
22:27:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:27:54 GO AHEAD, SIR.
22:27:55 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU.
22:28:04 AS RYAN HAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL HERE
22:28:10 AND THE SURROUNDING LOTS AROUND THIS ARE ALL 50 FEET OR
22:28:13 LESS AND BEHIND IT ARE THE SAME.
22:28:16 AND ALSO, WE HAVE GONE ALONG DREXEL AND THOSE ARE ALSO
22:28:21 SMALLER LOTS.
22:28:23 I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT
22:28:26 PHOTOGRAPH, WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
22:28:27 ASSOCIATION VERY EARLY ON THIS PROJECT.
22:28:31 AGAIN, IT WAS CHELSEA JOHNSON, AND WE ALSO WORK WITH
22:28:35 NATURAL RESOURCES AND WE EMPLOYED REASONABLE
22:28:37 RECONFIGURATION TO SAVE SOME OF THE TREES.
22:28:42 ONE TREE THAT WE CAN'T SAVE IS IN THE -- EXACTLY IN THE
22:28:46 MIDDLE OF THE LOT.
22:28:51 ANYWAY, THIS IS A VIEW OF SOME OF THE ADJACENT
22:28:54 PROPERTIES.
22:28:57 THE AREA HAS UNDERGONE SOME REDEVELOPMENT, BUT THESE ARE
22:29:00 THE OLDER HOMES THAT ARE EXISTING.
22:29:06 THIS IS THE PROPERTY GOING WESTWARD TOWARD HIMES.
22:29:11 SO AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY
22:29:21 DEEP LOT.
22:29:26 HERE'S A BETTER ONE.
22:29:29 A BETTER VIEW TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS
22:29:33 WE'RE PROPOSING TO SPLIT THE LOT.
22:29:35 SO YOU'D HAVE THE TWO ADJACENT LOTS HERE.
22:29:38 THIS LOT, THE THREE, FOUR LOTS BEHIND HERE.
22:29:42 AND THEN IT SKIPS AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
22:29:45 BUT THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN HERE THAT SUPPORTS
22:29:48 THIS.
22:29:48 RYAN POINTED OUT ON THE BLOCK FACE THAT WE HAVE 80%
22:30:04 CONSISTENCY WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
22:30:06 AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO SHOW UNIQUE CONDITIONS.
22:30:11 AS I SAID, WE'VE MET IN THE FIELD WITH THE NATURAL
22:30:15 RESOURCES STAFF.
22:30:16 THE REAR PORTION OF THIS LOT IS HEAVILY TREED.
22:30:20 WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO SAVE THOSE TREES
22:30:22 AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A BUILDABLE LOT.
22:30:27 IT DOES PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND STABLE DEVELOPMENT IN
22:30:32 SUSTAINABLE AREA.
22:30:33 IT IS NOT INTRODUCING A NEW ELEMENT THAT DOESN'T ALREADY
22:30:36 EXIST.
22:30:37 THE STAFF, AS I SAID, PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY
22:30:40 STAFF HAVE FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
22:30:42 I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD KERNELS OR OBJECTIONS.
22:30:46 AS I SAID, WE STARTED WORKING WITH HIM VERY EARLY IN THE
22:30:49 PROCESS.
22:30:50 WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE AND UPGRADE THE EXISTING HOUSING
22:30:54 STOCK.
22:30:55 THIS DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND
22:30:57 WELFARE OF OTHERS.
22:30:59 SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE WOULD BE DONE AND IS CONSISTENT WITH
22:31:01 THE COMP PLAN.
22:31:08 UNLESS SOMEONE IS OBJECTING, I WOULD JUST SAY WE
22:31:11 RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
22:31:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:31:13 ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
22:31:15 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
22:31:19 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 12, REZ 20-58?
22:31:24 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
22:31:26 THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS.
22:31:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
22:31:31 >> NO, THERE ISN'T.
22:31:32 THANK YOU.
22:31:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:31:34 NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.
22:31:37 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
22:31:39 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
22:31:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:31:44 OKAY.
22:31:45 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING NUMBER 12.
22:31:48 DON'T FORGET TO INCLUDE THE REVISION SHEET.
22:31:50 >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE REZ 20-58, ORDINANCE
22:31:58 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
22:32:00 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
22:32:03 3408 WEST WALLCRAFT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
22:32:06 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
22:32:09 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
22:32:12 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
22:32:14 DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
22:32:16 INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
22:32:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
22:32:21 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
22:32:23 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
22:32:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO ADD.
22:32:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, ITEM 12.
22:32:33 >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE TO ADD -- I BELIEVE THE PETITIONER
22:32:36 MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
22:32:39 EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS CONDITION -- IS
22:32:42 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE.
22:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:32:46 WE HAD A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
22:32:48 THAT INCLUDES THE REVISIONS SHEET.
22:32:50 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
22:32:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
22:32:53 >> GUDES?
22:32:54 MANISCALCO?
22:32:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
22:32:55 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
22:32:56 CITRO?
22:32:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
22:32:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
22:33:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
22:33:02 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND VIERA BEING
22:33:04 ABSENT AT VOTE.
22:33:05 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER
22:33:07 3rd AT 9:30 A.M.
22:33:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:33:10 ITEM NUMBER 13.
22:33:11 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
22:33:14 ITEM 13 IS FILE REZ 20-75.
22:33:17 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 203 DANUBE AVENUE.
22:33:21 THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM RM 24 RESIDENTIAL
22:33:24 MULTIFAMILY TO RM 18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
22:33:26 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT
22:33:28 AND PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
22:33:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. MALONE.
22:33:32 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, THE PLANNING
22:33:34 COMMISSION.
22:33:34 AM I OFF MUTE?
22:33:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
22:33:37 >>JENNIFER MALONE: 20-57.
22:33:43 THIS IS ON DAVIS ISLAND.
22:33:44 ALSO DAVIS ISLAND URBAN VILLAGE.
22:33:46 I'LL ALSO POINT OUT SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL
22:33:49 HIGH HAZARD AREA.
22:33:53 THE TAMPA BAY RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
22:33:57 THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL
22:34:01 35.
22:34:01 THAT IS THE DARKER BROWN COLOR.
22:34:03 DAVIS ISLAND HAS A LOT OF VARYING DENSITIES.
22:34:07 IT WAS DEVELOPED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO HAVE A LOT
22:34:10 OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DENSITIES.
22:34:12 THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE RESIDENTIAL 6 ON THE CORNER
22:34:15 ON THE BACK.
22:34:16 MUCH OF THE ISLAND IS RESIDENTIAL 6.
22:34:18 ALSO RESIDENTIAL 10 AND THEN IT TRANSITIONS TO THE
22:34:21 RESIDENTIAL 35.
22:34:22 THIS IS ALSO COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, WHICH IS THAT
22:34:26 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
22:34:28 WE DO FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:34:31 THIS IS A REQUEST FROM -- IT'S A REQUEST OF LESS THAN THE
22:34:37 CURRENT ZONING THEY HAVE NOW.
22:34:39 SO WE FOUND THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT.
22:34:42 PROVIDE MORE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING CHOICES AND WOULD NOT
22:34:45 ALTER THE CHARACTER OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF DAVIS
22:34:48 ISLAND.
22:34:48 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
22:34:50 THANK YOU.
22:34:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
22:34:52 SIR, GO AHEAD.
22:34:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: I'M SORRY.
22:34:56 ITEM NUMBER 13, FILE REZ 20-75.
22:34:59 THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 203 DANUBE AVENUE.
22:35:03 THEY ARE REQUESTING REZONE FROM RM 24 TO RM 18 TO ALLOW
22:35:07 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY RM 18 USE.
22:35:09 THE 10,000-SQUARE-FOOT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE
22:35:12 SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE DANUBE AVENUE AND BARBADOS AVENUE
22:35:16 INTERSECTION.
22:35:16 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY MULTIFAMILY
22:35:19 DWELLING WITH THREE UNITS CONSTRUCTED IN 1948.
22:35:21 THE SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS
22:35:24 TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST IN RM 16 ZONING DISTRICT AND
22:35:28 THE COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST IN THE CG ZONING DISTRICT.
22:35:33 THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL CITY OF TAMPA LAND
22:35:35 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT TIME OF PERMITTING.
22:35:37 THIS BEING A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THERE ARE NO WAIVERS
22:35:40 ALLOWED PER THIS REQUEST AND THERE'S ALSO NO SITE PLAN.
22:35:43 THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU SHOWS THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS.
22:35:46 THERE ARE TWO OF THEM.
22:35:47 THE PALMERIN HOTEL AND THE ROY JENKINS POOL.
22:35:53 THERE WERE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS FOR THE NATIONAL IN THE
22:35:55 VICINITY OF THE AREA.
22:35:56 AGAIN, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED OUTLINED IN RED.
22:35:59 THERE'S YOUR BARBADOS AND THEN THE DANUBE AVENUE.
22:36:06 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
22:36:09 THE APPLICATION, AND WE DO FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT
22:36:11 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
22:36:14 SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO
22:36:16 ANSWER THOSE.
22:36:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
22:36:19 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
22:36:20 HEARING NONE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
22:36:24 >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI AGAIN, REPRESENTING
22:36:27 THE PETITIONER FOR 203 DANUBE.
22:36:30 THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT WE GOT ON THIS PETITION AT ALL WAS
22:36:33 THEY THOUGHT WE MADE A MISTAKE IN REQUESTING A
22:36:36 DOWN-ZONING FROM RM 24 TO RM 18.
22:36:40 IT WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF FOUR UNITS.
22:36:44 BASICALLY, WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE COASTAL HIGH
22:36:47 HAZARD ISSUES AND THE FLOOD ZONE ELEVATIONS AT THE TIME
22:36:52 OF PERMITTING.
22:36:53 AS RYAN ALSO POINTED OUT, NO WAIVERS ARE ALLOWED.
22:36:58 THEY ARE UNDER EUCLIDEAN ZONING.
22:37:00 THE LAND USE IS RES 35, AND THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT
22:37:04 REDUCTION IN WHAT PREVIOUSLY COULD HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THE
22:37:08 PROPERTY.
22:37:09 I'LL SUSPEND THE REST OF MY PRESENTATION IN DEFERENCE TO
22:37:13 THE HOUR AND CERTAINLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
22:37:16 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
22:37:19 THEM.
22:37:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
22:37:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:37:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:37:24 WHY?
22:37:29 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE RM 18 PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF
22:37:34 DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR SETBACKS.
22:37:37 THE SETBACKS ARE THE SAME.
22:37:39 WHAT HAPPENS WITH RM 24 IS ONCE YOU GO OVER 30 FEET, YOU
22:37:43 END UP WITH A ZIGZAG ZONING HEIGHTS.
22:37:47 YOU HAVE TO INSET THE SECOND FLOOR FOR EVERY FOOT OF
22:37:52 DISTANCE.
22:37:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE WEDDING CAKE.
22:37:54 >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT JUST BECOMES VERY CUMBERSOME TO TRY
22:37:58 TO DEVELOP THAT.
22:37:59 AND THE SITE ITSELF IS REALLY COMPATIBLE WITH FOUR UNITS
22:38:03 AND NOT ANY MORE THAN THAT.
22:38:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS WHAT
22:38:09 IS THE POTENTIAL.
22:38:10 >>STEVE MICHELINI: FOUR UNITS.
22:38:11 I MENTIONED THAT.
22:38:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOUR UNITS MAX.
22:38:14 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S CORRECT.
22:38:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT KIND OF HEIGHT LIMITATION ON THE
22:38:17 RM 18?
22:38:20 >>STEVE MICHELINI: 35 FEET.
22:38:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SAME AS SINGLE-FAMILY.
22:38:25 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
22:38:25 YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY TOWN HOUSES AND OTHER COMMERCIAL
22:38:27 PROJECTS THAT ARE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AND SCALE.
22:38:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS A TEARDOWN, THIS OPPORTUNITY,
22:38:33 CLEARLY.
22:38:33 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
22:38:34 REALLY, IT HELPS TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA A
22:38:41 LITTLE BIT EASIER TO DEAL WITH SO THAT YOU'RE NOT
22:38:44 ZIGZAGGING THE UPPER LEVELS.
22:38:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME ASK MARY THIS OR RYAN.
22:38:55 EVEN AT 35 FEET, THERE'S STILL A WEDDING CAKE
22:39:00 REQUIREMENT?
22:39:00 >>RYAN MANASSE: IN THE CURRENT ZONING, RM 24 DOES REFER
22:39:04 BACK TO THE FOOTNOTE THAT DOES STATE THAT SETBACK FOR THE
22:39:07 HEIGHT.
22:39:08 GOING TO THE RM 18, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE AT THE 35
22:39:11 FEET STANDARD.
22:39:12 ALSO, ANOTHER SETBACK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM
22:39:14 THE RM 24, IT SHOULD BE THE REAR SETBACK IS 15 FEET
22:39:20 COMPARED TO 20 IN THE RM 24.
22:39:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH ONE IS WHICH?
22:39:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: RM 24 IS 20 FEET. RM 18 IS 15.
22:39:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE NO COMMENTS FROM DAVIS ISLAND
22:39:37 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR ANYTHING?
22:39:40 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THEY CONTACTED US AND WERE HAPPY WE
22:39:42 WERE DOWN ZONING.
22:39:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
22:39:45 >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT'S REALLY A TECHNICAL ISSUE,
22:39:48 COUNCILMAN.
22:39:51 ONE OF THE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS IS GOING TO COME TO YOU
22:39:55 SHORTLY THROUGH ONE OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT KIND OF
22:39:59 STRAIGHTENS THESE THINGS OUT.
22:40:01 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES LIKE THIS.
22:40:03 RIGHT NOW, THIS IS OUR ONLY SOLUTION TO GET THROUGH THE
22:40:06 PROCESS.
22:40:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:40:09 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
22:40:12 THIS ITEM?
22:40:13 ITEM 13, 20-75.
22:40:15 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
22:40:18 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS
22:40:20 ON THIS ITEM.
22:40:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
22:40:24 >> THERE IS NO ONE AT THE KIOSK.
22:40:26 THANK YOU.
22:40:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
22:40:27 CITRO.
22:40:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
22:40:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:40:30 ANY OPPOSED?
22:40:31 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 13.
22:40:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
22:40:37 I MOVE FILE REZ 20-75, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
22:40:42 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
22:40:43 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
22:40:46 203 DANUBE AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
22:40:50 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
22:40:53 CLASSIFICATION RM 24 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO RM-18
22:40:59 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
22:41:02 AS THE PETITIONER MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND IN
22:41:05 COMPLIANCE WITH LAND USE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
22:41:06 THE PROPOSED ZONING CATEGORY IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE
22:41:09 WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING
22:41:12 AREA.
22:41:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
22:41:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
22:41:15 CITRO.
22:41:15 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
22:41:17 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
22:41:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
22:41:20 >> GUDES?
22:41:21 MANISCALCO?
22:41:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
22:41:23 VIERA?
22:41:23 CITRO?
22:41:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
22:41:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
22:41:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
22:41:26 >>CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND VIERA BEING
22:41:28 ABSENT AT VOTE.
22:41:30 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 3 AT
22:41:33 9:30 A.M.
22:41:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 14.
22:41:38 >> ITEM 14, FILE REZ 20-76 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
22:41:42 3305 WEST UNION STREET.
22:41:44 APPLICANT PROPOSING TO REZONE FROM RS 50 RESIDENTIAL
22:41:48 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
22:41:50 DETACHED.
22:41:50 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
22:41:52 PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
22:41:55 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
22:41:57 COMMISSION.
22:41:57 I HOPE EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME.
22:41:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
22:42:00 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
22:42:05 DISTRICT WITHIN THE MacFARLANE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AND
22:42:07 MacFARLANE PARK IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE VIEW OF THE
22:42:10 SCREEN RIGHT HERE.
22:42:10 WE HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
22:42:13 SOME COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH ALONG THAT I-75 SUBJECT
22:42:19 SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
22:42:21 TO THE SOUTH TRANSITIONS TO RESIDENTIAL 20, COMMUNITY
22:42:23 COMMERCIAL 35 IS THE RED, THOSE ARE THE COMMERCIAL USES
22:42:27 ADJACENT TO THE INTERSTATE AND THEN THE GREEN IS THE
22:42:29 MacFARLANE PARK, RECREATION OPEN SPACE.
22:42:34 EXISTING DENSITY OF THIS PORTION OF WEST UNION STREET
22:42:37 9.11 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
22:42:39 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
22:42:43 THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL TEN
22:42:45 DENSITY.
22:42:47 A LOT OF WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE FOUND IT WOULD BE
22:42:50 BUILT WITHIN THE EXISTING STREET LOT BLOCK CONFIGURATION
22:42:53 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND POLICY DIRECTION, SEVERAL OF OUR
22:42:58 PLANS -- ENCOURAGING HOUSING ON EXISTING VACANT OR
22:43:02 UNDERUTILIZED LAND.
22:43:04 IT IS CONSISTENT AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
22:43:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
22:43:07 SIR?
22:43:08 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE REZ 20-76.
22:43:17 THIS IS THE APPLICANT PROPOSING TO REZONE PROPERTY AT
22:43:19 3305 WEST UNION STREET FROM RS 50 TO PD PLANNED
22:43:24 DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
22:43:25 RESIDENTIAL LOT.
22:43:26 THE WEST SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SUBJECT PARCEL HAS
22:43:30 BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNIT AS
22:43:33 DEPICTED ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
22:43:35 THE APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING WOULD ALLOW THE EXISTING
22:43:38 STRUCTURE TO REMAIN ON THE LOT CONTAINING WIDTH OF 49
22:43:41 FREE THE WHILE SPLITTING THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY
22:43:43 LEAVING A 50-FOOT WIDE LOT WHICH COULD BE DEVELOPED UNDER
22:43:47 THE EXISTING RS 50 ZONING DISTRICT.
22:43:49 THE PROPERTY IS INDICATED AND OUTLINED ON THE MAP ON THE
22:43:53 SCREEN IN RED.
22:43:53 IT'S WEST OF NORTH LINCOLN AVENUE AND THE WEST UNION
22:43:54 STREET INTERSECTION.
22:43:56 THE PROPERTY CONTAINS THREE PLATTED LOTS.
22:43:58 LOTS 28, 29, 30 AND HALF OF VACATED ALLEY TO THE NORTH
22:44:03 AND BLOCK 37 OF MacFARLANE PARK SUBDIVISION.
22:44:07 THE PLATTED LOTS WERE ORIENTED WITH LOT FRONTAGE ON WEST
22:44:11 UNION STREET WITH EACH LOT MEASURING 33 FEET IN WIDTH AND
22:44:15 96-FOOT IN-DEPTH.
22:44:17 THE PROPOSED LOT DIMENSION FOR THE REZONING REQUEST IS 49
22:44:20 FEET IN WIDTH AND 102 BY 90.93 FEET IN DEPTH WITH 5,043.6
22:44:25 SQUARE FOOT LOT AREA.
22:44:29 THE REQUIRED MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IN THE RS 50 ZONING
22:44:33 DISTRICT IS 50 FEET.
22:44:34 THE TOTAL LOT AREA IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
22:44:37 THEREFORE, THE ONLY WAY TO ALLOW FOR TWO BUILDABLE LOTS
22:44:40 IN THIS REQUESTED PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AS THE WEST PORTION
22:44:43 OF THE LOT WILL NOT MEET THE RS-50 MINIMUM LOT
22:44:47 REQUIREMENTS.
22:44:47 THE SETBACKS FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING IS SOUTH 20
22:44:50 FEET TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND 16 FEET TO THE FRONT
22:44:53 PORCH, WEST 7 FEET, EAST 7 FEET AND NORTH 20 FEET.
22:44:57 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 35 FEET.
22:45:00 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT RS 50
22:45:03 WITH EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS ON ALL
22:45:06 SIDES.
22:45:09 I'D LIKE TO PUT OUR CONFORMING MAP ON SCREEN.
22:45:11 THIS IS GOING THROUGH THE STAFF ANALYSIS.
22:45:13 MacFARLANE PARK SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN
22:45:16 1909 WITH WIDTH FROM 33 FEET TO 52 WITH A FEW LARGE LOTS
22:45:21 McCARDINAL 674 FEET.
22:45:23 DEPTH VARIED FROM 96 FEET TO 135 FEET AGAIN WITH FEW
22:45:26 LARGER LOTS LIKE MacFARLANE PARK BEING 637 FEET.
22:45:31 OVERALL SUBDIVISION INCLUDED 58 LOTS.
22:45:35 SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON LOTS 28, 29, 30, AGAIN THAT
22:45:38 HALF OF THE VACATED ALLEY TO THE NORTH IN BLOCK 37.
22:45:43 THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDED THE McFARLAND
22:45:47 SUBDIVISION.
22:45:48 THE AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDED 239 TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
22:45:53 216 OR 90% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
22:45:57 OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 23 OR 10% DEVELOPED WITH A LOT
22:46:00 WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
22:46:03 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
22:46:05 PATTERN, THE SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 17 TOTAL ZONING LOTS,
22:46:09 16 OR 94% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
22:46:12 OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND ONE OR 6% DEVELOPED WITH A LOT
22:46:19 WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
22:46:21 3300 BLOCK OF WEST UNION AVENUE, AGAIN, BOTH SIDES OF THE
22:46:25 STREET, CONTAINS 13 TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
22:46:27 100% OF THE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR
22:46:31 GREATER AND ZERO WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
22:46:34 THE BLOCK FACE CONTAINS SIX TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND SIX
22:46:38 AGAIN 100% OF THE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 50
22:46:42 FEET OR GREATER AND 0 WITH 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
22:46:45 BASED UPON THIS ANALYSIS, STAFF DID FIND THE PROPOSED
22:46:48 REQUEST FOR REZONING INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
22:46:50 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
22:46:52 THERE WERE NO WAIVERS TO THIS PETITION REQUEST AND THE
22:46:55 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF AGAIN DID FIND IT
22:46:58 INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
22:47:00 CODE.
22:47:00 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REFER TO THE FINDINGS BY THE
22:47:03 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION IN RELATION TO THE EXISTING
22:47:05 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.
22:47:06 IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
22:47:08 APPLICATION, THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED ON THE SITE
22:47:11 PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
22:47:14 I'D ASK THAT YOU READ THE REVISION SHEET INTO SAID
22:47:19 MOTION.
22:47:20 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
22:47:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
22:47:24 TIME?
22:47:24 ALL RIGHT.
22:47:27 SIR, WERE YOU SWORN IN?
22:47:29 >> NO, I WASN'T.
22:47:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE COULD SWEAR THE GENTLEMAN IN.
22:47:33 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
22:47:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
22:47:41 >> FRANCISCO TAROPACEO, 13014 NORTH DALE MABRY.
22:47:46 GOOD EVENING.
22:47:46 WE ARE PROPOSING TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO PD TO ALLOW FOR
22:47:50 ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL LOT.
22:47:53 THE REASON FOR THE REZONING IS BECAUSE THE LOT FRONTAGE
22:47:57 IS FALLING SHORT OF THE 50 MINIMUM.
22:47:59 WE'RE AT A LITTLE OVER 49 FEET, BUT JUST A -- IF APPROVED
22:48:04 WE WOULD MEET ALL REQUIRED FRONT, REAR, SIDE SETBACKS.
22:48:08 NO TREES WILL BE REMOVED AND NATURAL RESOURCES FINDS OUR
22:48:12 PETITION CONSISTENT.
22:48:13 PER THE CITY, THE AREA ANALYSIS FINDS 90% OF THE LOTS IN
22:48:17 THE AREA TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR
22:48:20 GREATER AND 10% OF THE AREA TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
22:48:23 OF 49.99 OR LESS.
22:48:26 THERE ARE SIMILAR LOTS WITH THE WIDTH WE ARE PROPOSING.
22:48:29 THE ELEVATIONS I WILL SHOW, WE'LL GO TO RESIDENTIAL STYLE
22:48:32 THAT IS COMPLEMENTARY TO THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH A
22:48:36 TWO-CAR GARAGE.
22:48:37 THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND NATURAL RESOURCES, FIRE,
22:48:40 STORMWATER, TRANSPORTATION, WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE AND
22:48:44 WATER ALL HAVE FOUND OUR PETITION CONSISTENT.
22:48:47 SO SUMMARIZE, THE OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
22:48:50 TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO MENTION, REGARDING ADEQUATE SITES
22:48:56 TO ACCOMMODATE HOUSING NEEDS, ONE, HSG OBJECTIVE 1.3,
22:49:01 ENSURE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING AND AVAILABLE TO MEET
22:49:06 THE NEEDS OF PREFERENCES IN FINANCIAL CAPABILITIES OF THE
22:49:09 TAMPA HOUSEHOLDS NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE IN OUR
22:49:12 NEIGHBORHOODS.
22:49:13 TWO, HSG POLICY 1.3.4, ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING ON VACANT
22:49:19 INFILL OR UNDERUTILIZED LAND.
22:49:22 WE FEEL OUR PETITION ADDRESSES THESE NEEDS AND OBJECTIVE.
22:49:25 I WANTED TO SHOW SOME PICTURES TO GET A GENERAL IDEA OF
22:49:37 THE HOUSE WE'LL BUILD.
22:49:39 THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT ON THE LOT NEXT DOOR,
22:49:43 AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO A SIMILAR KIND OF A HOUSE ON
22:49:46 THE SUBJECT LOT.
22:49:49 YOU CAN SEE THE TWO-CAR GARAGE.
22:49:52 THIS IS THE VIEW, IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE LOT ACROSS
22:49:55 THE STREET, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT IS KIND
22:49:59 OF SMALLER THAN THE HOUSE IN FRONT OF US.
22:50:02 SO LIKE I SAID IN MY PRESENTATION, THERE ARE SEVERAL
22:50:06 SIZED LOTS ON THAT PROPERTY, 50 OR GREATER OR 50 BELOW.
22:50:13 THIS IS THE STREET SCENE SHOWING -- JUST THE STREET
22:50:18 SCENE.
22:50:19 THERE ARE LOTS ON THE RIGHT.
22:50:20 IT WILL BE SIMILAR HOUSES THAT WE PROPOSE TO BUILD.
22:50:25 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
22:50:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
22:50:30 GENTLEMAN?
22:50:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
22:50:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS, RYAN, WHEN
22:50:40 YOU GAVE YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT LET ME ASK THE GENTLEMAN,
22:50:44 WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF THIS LOT.
22:50:47 IS IT RELATED TO THE LOT NEXT DOOR?
22:50:53 >> YES.
22:50:54 THE ORIGINAL PLAT, THERE WERE THREE LOTS AT 33 FEET
22:51:02 WIDTH, I BELIEVE.
22:51:03 MY CLIENT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND THEN HE PERMITTED
22:51:08 THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE IT
22:51:15 TO SPLIT THE LOT AND MAKE THIS ONE BUILDABLE.
22:51:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE BOUGHT THE THREE LOTS.
22:51:20 I ASSUME THERE WAS PROBABLY ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE ON
22:51:23 ALL THREE?
22:51:24 >> YES.
22:51:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE BOUGHT THE THREE LOTS.
22:51:30 HE BUILT THAT ONE AT WHAT WIDTH?
22:51:39 >> THE LOT WITH THE HOUSE NOW IS 50 FEET.
22:51:41 >> IT WOULD BE RS 50.
22:51:43 IF YOU'D SHOW THE ELMO, I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE SITE PLAN.
22:51:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW DID HE DO THAT IN 50?
22:51:51 >>RYAN MANASSE: ZONING IS RS 50.
22:51:52 THIS LOT OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN
22:51:55 THIS REQUEST WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH RS 50 STANDARDS.
22:51:58 THE PD PORTION, 49-FOOT LOT.
22:52:01 IT'S NOT MAKING THE 50-FOOT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT
22:52:05 BY ONE FOOT.
22:52:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BOTH OF THESE LOTS ARE RS 50.
22:52:09 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT.
22:52:10 THIS WAS ONE PARCEL.
22:52:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT ONE FOOT SHORT.
22:52:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT, SIR.
22:52:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WAS A 99-FOOT TOTAL DEAL.
22:52:18 >>RYAN MANASSE: 49 BY --
22:52:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER, 99.
22:52:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT, YES.
22:52:26 >> I HAVE MY SITE PLAN HERE WHICH I COULD ADD TO IT.
22:52:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, WHY DO WE GO THROUGH THE
22:52:34 EXERCISE OF LOOKING AT THE COLORED MAP AND THE 60-FOOT
22:52:41 VERSUS THE 50-FOOT WHEN IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE OF IT'S
22:52:49 ALREADY RS 50.
22:52:50 IT'S AN ISSUE OF DO WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A ONE-FOOT
22:52:54 VARIANCE?
22:52:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: BECAUSE YOU'RE DIPPING BELOW THAT RS 50
22:52:58 REQUIREMENT.
22:52:59 SO THE STAFF IS TRYING TO SHOW THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
22:53:02 THE AREA AND IF THE LOTS WERE LESS THAN 50 FEET.
22:53:05 THAT IS THE POINT OF THE STAFF ANALYSIS INCLUDED ON TOP
22:53:07 OF THE PD SITE PLAN TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL IDEA OF THE
22:53:11 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:53:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW IT'S A SUBJECT FOR A LATER
22:53:15 DISCUSSION, BUT THIS IS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO BRING
22:53:17 UP AT THAT WORKSHOP, GENTLEMEN, SOMETIMES WE GET WITHIN A
22:53:23 FOOT AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND THEY SPEND A LOT OF
22:53:26 MONEY GOING THROUGH THE PD.
22:53:30 WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SYSTEM.
22:53:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEVER VOTED FOR A 49-FOOT LOT IN
22:53:37 WEST TAMPA.
22:53:38 DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE ONE ON ARMENIA AND KENTUCKY, WHY
22:53:41 SHOULD I VOTE FOR THIS ONE?
22:53:43 OWNS BOTH LOTS.
22:53:45 KNEW WHAT HE BOUGHT JUST LIKE SOUTH TAMPA.
22:53:48 SOMETIMES YOU DO AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T.
22:53:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR YOU CHARLIE.
22:53:52 IT'S NOT EASY.
22:53:54 I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD TREAT SOUTH TAMPA DIFFERENT THAN
22:53:57 WEST TAMPA.
22:53:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
22:53:59 SOME LOTS ALREADY ZONED IN WEST TAMPA THAT ARE 33.
22:54:03 SOME LOTS ZONED THAT ARE 45.
22:54:05 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
22:54:06 THAT'S ALREADY DONE.
22:54:08 YOU EITHER CHANGE THE CULTURE OR REMAIN THE CULTURE.
22:54:17 >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE THIS ISN'T A PATTERN I'M SEEING
22:54:20 TONIGHT OR MAYBE IT IS.
22:54:22 BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY HAS THE INTENTION TO SPLIT
22:54:26 THESE LOTS AND THEY CAN'T GET THE FULL ENTITLEMENT UNDER
22:54:29 ONE COUNCIL AND THEN THEY COME BACK ANOTHER TIME TO TRY
22:54:32 TO GET ANOTHER ONE.
22:54:34 WAS THIS ONE EVER REJECTED?
22:54:36 WHY WOULDN'T THEY HAVE GIVEN ENTITLEMENT TO BOTH AT THE
22:54:39 SAME TIME.
22:54:43 >> NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
22:54:44 >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY HAD A 99-FOOT LOT AND SPLIT IT
22:54:48 IN HALF, ENTITLEMENT FOR ONE SITE BUT DIDN'T GET
22:54:51 ENTITLEMENT FOR THE OTHER.
22:54:52 WAS THIS SIDE REJECTED AT SOME POINT IN.
22:54:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: NO.
22:54:56 NO PREVIOUS REZONING.
22:54:58 ORIGINAL PLATTED LOTS WERE 33.
22:55:00 OVER TIME RS 60.
22:55:02 IT WAS ONE TOTAL ZONING LOT.
22:55:03 SO WHEN THIS -- WHEN THE APPLICANT, I ASSUME WHEN THEY
22:55:07 BOUGHT THE LOT, THEY BOUGHT THE ENTIRE 99-FOOT LOT AND
22:55:11 THEN THEY DECIDED TO DEMO THE HOUSE THAT WAS ON THERE AND
22:55:14 BUILD THE SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE WHILE TRYING TO MAKE
22:55:18 THE PD TO GET THE 49-FOOT LOT.
22:55:20 THAT WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION.
22:55:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
22:55:32 ON ITEM NUMBER 14.
22:55:34 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
22:55:36 THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS ON
22:55:39 THIS ITEM.
22:55:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
22:55:44 >> THERE IS NO ONE HERE AT THE KIOSK.
22:55:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
22:55:48 CITRO.
22:55:48 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
22:55:50 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
22:55:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:55:53 AYE.
22:55:54 OPPOSED.
22:55:54 GREAT.
22:55:56 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS?
22:55:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I PASS.
22:55:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND
22:56:01 TAKING THIS ONE?
22:56:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL WITH HESITANCY AND, CHARLIE, I
22:56:11 RESPECT YOUR POSITION.
22:56:14 I KNOW WHEN YOU TAKE A POSITION YOU HOLD STRONGLY TO IT.
22:56:19 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
22:56:27 CONSIDERATION REGARDING REZ 20-76, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
22:56:32 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3305 WEST UNION
22:56:36 STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
22:56:38 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
22:56:40 CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD
22:56:44 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED;
22:56:46 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
22:56:48 I MOVE THAT BASED UPON THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THE
22:56:54 EVIDENCE PRESENTED SHOWS THAT THEY MEET THE CRITERIA,
22:57:00 BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND THE CITY STAFF
22:57:03 HAVE REPORTS FINDING -- WELL, EXCUSE ME, PLANNING
22:57:06 COMMISSION STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
22:57:08 CITY STAFF FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.
22:57:11 I THINK MAINLY BASED UPON THE COLORED MAP AND THE LARGE
22:57:19 NUMBER OF RS 60s AND NOT TOO MANY RS 50s.
22:57:23 I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW RELEVANT THAT IS TODAY.
22:57:26 ANYWAY, I BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE
22:57:30 GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
22:57:33 BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE HEARD AND THE PLANNING
22:57:35 COMMISSION STAFF REPORT.
22:57:38 I BELIEVE IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF 27-136 IN RECORD
22:57:44 TO BEING A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED DEVELOPMENT.
22:57:46 I'M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE ANY WAIVERS ON THIS.
22:57:49 >> THERE ARE NONE.
22:57:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO WAIVERS.
22:57:51 NO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
22:57:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
22:57:57 READING.
22:57:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INCORPORATE THE REVISION SHEET FOR
22:57:59 SECOND READING.
22:58:01 THAT'S MY MOTION TO APPROVE.
22:58:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
22:58:03 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
22:58:09 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
22:58:10 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER?
22:58:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
22:58:12 >> GUDES?
22:58:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
22:58:14 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
22:58:15 CITRO?
22:58:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
22:58:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
22:58:18 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
22:58:21 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION DID NOT CARRY WITH GUDES AND
22:58:24 VIERA -- CORRECTION.
22:58:26 GUDES AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE, AND MIRANDA AND
22:58:29 CARLSON VOTING NO.
22:58:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE RULES.
22:58:45 COUNCIL, NOW THAT YOU'RE BACK IN-PERSON SESSION, NORMALLY
22:59:04 YOU WOULD SET IT FOR THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING WHEN A FULL
22:59:08 COUNCIL WOULD BE PRESENT -- LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THE RULE.
22:59:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOVEMBER 19.
22:59:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING ONLY FOUR
22:59:30 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL -- RULE 6-8.
22:59:38 IF IN A MOTION, QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER IT FAILS TO RECEIVE
22:59:42 AT LEAST FOUR VOTES, THE MOTION FAILS AND IF ANOTHER
22:59:45 MOTION IS NOT MADE THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL BE
22:59:49 AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO A TIME CERTAIN AT
22:59:53 THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.
22:59:56 TECHNICALLY, COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO FORMALLY MAKE A
23:00:01 MOTION TO REOPEN, JUST SO IT'S CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, YOU
23:00:04 CAN DO THAT AND CONTINUE THE ITEM TO NOVEMBER 19 MORNING
23:00:08 MEETING.
23:00:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MOTION ON THE
23:00:10 FLOOR?
23:00:10 DOES IT JUST GET RESTATED.
23:00:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT FAILS.
23:00:14 THERE IS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
23:00:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE MOTION FAILED.
23:00:18 WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US PROCEDURALLY AT THE NEXT
23:00:22 MEETING?
23:00:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
23:00:27 THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT PRESENT WILL HAVE TO REVIEW THE
23:00:29 RECORD BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A
23:00:31 POSITION AVAILABLE TO MAKE THEIR VOTE BASED ON COMPETENT
23:00:34 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
23:00:35 IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING
23:00:37 ALLOWS THEM TO ASK THE QUESTIONS AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS
23:00:41 THEN THE PETITIONER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDRESSING
23:00:44 ANY ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE IN REBUTTAL.
23:00:47 THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
23:00:48 A MOTION IS MADE BASED ON WHAT IS BEFORE COUNCIL THAT
23:00:53 DAY, NEXT WEEK AND PREVIOUS MEETING HERE TONIGHT.
23:01:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NEED A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC
23:01:02 HEARING.
23:01:02 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:01:04 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:01:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:01:09 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT REGULARLY
23:01:13 SCHEDULED MEETING WHICH IS NOVEMBER 19 AT 10:30 A.M.?
23:01:19 MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY
23:01:21 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
23:01:22 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
23:01:23 OPPOSED?
23:01:24 ALL RIGHT.
23:01:26 10:30 A.M.
23:01:27 IT WON'T BE EXACTLY 10:30, NEXT THURSDAY.
23:01:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL INFORM THE ABSENT COUNCIL MEMBERS
23:01:35 OF THE NECESSITY OF THEM HAVING TO REVIEW THAT MEETING SO
23:01:37 THEY ARE PREPARED TO VOTE NEXT WEEK.
23:01:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 15.
23:01:43 >> ITEM NUMBER 15 IS FILE REZ 20-77 FOR THE PROPERTY
23:01:48 LOCATED AT 6223 SOUTH MAIN STREET AND THE APPLICANT IS
23:01:52 REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-60
23:01:55 TO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50.
23:01:58 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
23:02:00 RETURN TO ME AFTERWARDS.
23:02:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
23:02:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA
23:02:11 PLANNING DISTRICT JUST NORTH OF INTERBAY AVENUE.
23:02:13 WE HAVE SKY VIEW PARK, THE PARK NEXT AND DALE MABRY
23:02:18 HIGHWAY IS OUT OF FRAME BUT NEXT TO THE SUBJECT SITE.
23:02:22 THE SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
23:02:23 THAT'S THE ORANGE COLOR.
23:02:24 THE GREEN IS REPRESENTING PARK LAND IN THE AREA AND THE
23:02:30 LIGHTER BROWN AREA AS WELL.
23:02:32 WE FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON
23:02:36 RESIDENTIAL 10 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
23:02:40 THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD HAVE A DENSITY OF 5.7 UNITS PER
23:02:48 ACRE.
23:02:48 THAT IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM NUMBER RESIDENTIAL 10
23:02:51 DESIGNATION.
23:02:52 BY INCREASING AVAILABLE DENSITY OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL,
23:02:58 WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL IN-FILL HOUSING ON A PARCEL
23:03:02 WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, WITH TRANSIT
23:03:07 OPPORTUNITIES ON SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
23:03:10 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
23:03:13 THANK YOU.
23:03:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
23:03:17 REZ 20-77.
23:03:19 AND IT'S FOR AGAIN THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6223 SOUTH
23:03:23 MAIN STREET.
23:03:23 THE APPLICANT IS AGAIN REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM RS-60 TO
23:03:32 RS-50.
23:03:33 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS ALLOWED TO BE REQUESTED THROUGH THIS
23:03:36 REQUEST.
23:03:36 AND THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY INCLUDES TWO LOTS AND HALF OF
23:03:40 A VACATED ALLEY TO THE SOUTHEAST WHICH IS LOTS 11 AND 12
23:03:45 OF INTERBAY SUBDIVISION.
23:03:49 THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 145 FEET IN DEPTH INFORM
23:03:54 LOT AREA OF 15,225 SQUARE FEET.
23:03:56 LOTS 10 AND 11 WERE ORIGINALLY PLATTED AT 50-FOOT IN
23:04:00 WIDTH AND 145 FEET IN LENGTH.
23:04:02 ALSO THE PROPERTY HAS THAT HALF VACATED ALLEY TO THE
23:04:06 SOUTHEAST GIVING IT THE OVERALL WIDTH OF 105 FEET.
23:04:11 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED TWO LOTS TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE
23:04:14 SOUTH MAIN STREET AND INTERBAY BOULEVARD INTERSECTIONS
23:04:17 AND CURRENTLY HAS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING
23:04:20 CONSTRUCTED IN 1976.
23:04:22 THE SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
23:04:24 RESIDENCE TO THE NORTH, SITE, EAST AND WEST IN RS-60
23:04:28 ZONING DISTRICT AND THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL
23:04:30 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT A TIME OF
23:04:33 PERMITTING, THIS BEING THE EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
23:04:43 THE INTERBAY SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1918
23:04:46 WITH LOTS TO 176 FEET IN WIDTH WITH SOME AS LARGE AS 211
23:04:52 FEET AND DEPTHS 120 FEET TO 294 FEET WITH SOME AS LARGE
23:04:56 AS 435 FEET.
23:04:57 THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION INCLUDED 8 BLOCKS LABELED A
23:05:01 THROUGH H AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON LOTS 10
23:05:05 AND 11 OF BLOCK C.
23:05:07 THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES THE INTERBAY
23:05:10 SUBDIVISION.
23:05:11 THE AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDED 385 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 177
23:05:15 OR 46% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF
23:05:18 60 FEET OR GREATER AND 208 OR 54% OF THEM HAVE BEEN
23:05:23 DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
23:05:27 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN,
23:05:30 THE SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 32 TOTAL ZONING LOTS, 44% OF
23:05:35 THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
23:05:37 GREATER AND 18 OR 56% DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 59.99
23:05:43 FEET OR LESS.
23:05:44 THE 6200 BLOCK OF WEST WALKER AVENUE CONTAINS 42% OF
23:05:51 THOSE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
23:05:55 GREATER AND 11 OR 58% OF THEM HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
23:05:59 WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR.
23:06:02 THE BLOCK BASE CONTAINS 15 TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND 8 OF
23:06:06 THOSE OR 53% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 60
23:06:09 FEET OR GREATER AND 7 OR 47% WITH A LOT WIDTH OF 59.99
23:06:14 FEET OR LESS THERE.
23:06:15 WERE NO HISTORICAL LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN A THOUSAND
23:06:18 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND BASED UPON THIS ANALYSIS
23:06:20 STAFF DID FIND THE REQUEST FOR REZONING CONSISTENT WITH
23:06:23 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA.
23:06:25 AGAIN, THERE IS NO WAIVERS AND THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN
23:06:28 REZONING REQUEST.
23:06:29 THEREFORE THE COMPLIANT REVIEW STAFF DID REVIEW IT AND
23:06:33 FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
23:06:35 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
23:06:36 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REFERENCE THE FINDINGS
23:06:41 BUILT DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION RELATED TO THE EXISTING
23:06:43 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA, AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE
23:06:46 FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
23:06:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
23:06:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A CLARIFICATION FOR THE RECORD.
23:06:53 IT'S EASY TO CONFUSE, BUT THIS IS MAIN, SOUTH MAIN
23:06:58 AVENUE, WHICH IS IN INTERBAY SOUTH OF GANDY, AND THERE
23:07:03 WERE SEVERAL REFERENCES IN THE STAFF REPORT TO MAIN
23:07:05 STREET.
23:07:06 SO I KNOW IT'S EASY TO MISTAKE THAT, BUT --
23:07:12 >>RYAN MANASSE: MY APOLOGIES.
23:07:13 I SEE THAT.
23:07:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S JUST A TYPO.
23:07:15 OKAY.
23:07:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
23:07:17 >>STEVE MICHELINI: REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
23:07:21 ON THIS PROJECT.
23:07:22 I HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN HERE AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH SO YOU
23:07:27 CAN SEE ALL THE LOTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING HERE ARE
23:07:31 ALREADY HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND UTILIZED IN 50-FOOT
23:07:36 CONFIGURATIONS.
23:07:37 SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO USE THE UNDERUTILIZED LAND WHERE
23:07:43 YOU HAVE EXISTING UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE YOU
23:07:47 ARE MINIMIZING THE COST, YOU ARE PAYING FOR ANY UPGRADES
23:07:50 NECESSARY AS PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
23:07:53 THIS AREA IS UNDERGOING A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT.
23:07:57 STAFF HAS FOUND IT CONSISTENT BOTH THE PLANNING
23:07:59 COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF.
23:08:01 I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
23:08:03 I KNOW IT'S A LATE HOUR.
23:08:07 I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS, I CAN GO MORE, OR IF I
23:08:09 HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
23:08:11 I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS.
23:08:14 WE HAVE RECEIVED NO CALLS, NO LETTERS WITH ANY CONCERNS
23:08:18 WHATSOEVER.
23:08:20 IT'S A REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
23:08:22 WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL.
23:08:23 THANK YOU.
23:08:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
23:08:27 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
23:08:29 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 15?
23:08:31 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
23:08:35 AND WE DID RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT -- WRITTEN COMMENTS ON
23:08:39 THIS ITEM.
23:08:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
23:08:44 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE'S NO ONE HERE ON THIS ITEM.
23:08:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
23:08:49 CITRO.
23:08:51 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:08:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:08:54 ALL RIGHT.
23:08:55 ANY OBJECTION?
23:08:57 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
23:09:00 15?
23:09:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-77.
23:09:05 MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
23:09:07 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
23:09:09 GENERAL VICINITY OF 6223 SOUTH MAIN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
23:09:13 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
23:09:15 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
23:09:19 SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
23:09:22 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
23:09:24 AND FINDING OF FACT, THIS APPLIES TO THE APPLICABLE LAND
23:09:29 USE POLICY AS NOTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, AND
23:09:32 I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM, THERE'S ABOUT SIX OF THEM,
23:09:36 IN THE GENERAL REQUIREMENT SECTION OF 27-156, EUCLIDEAN
23:09:40 ZONING, AND IT'S NOT SEEKING ANY WAIVERS FROM RS-50
23:09:45 ZONING.
23:09:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
23:09:49 ROLL CALL VOTE.
23:09:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
23:09:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
23:09:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
23:09:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
23:09:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
23:10:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND VIERA BEING
23:10:02 ABSENT AT VOTE.
23:10:03 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER
23:10:06 3rd AT 9:30 A.M.
23:10:08 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:10:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
23:10:10 ITEM NUMBER 16.
23:10:11 >> FILE REZ 20-78.
23:10:15 THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 308 EAST
23:10:19 7TH AVENUE.
23:10:20 THE REQUEST IS FROM PD TO PD FOR PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
23:10:22 ASSEMBLY, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND BUSINESS
23:10:24 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
23:10:25 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT
23:10:28 AND PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
23:10:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED, MS. MALONE.
23:10:52 STILL MUTED.
23:11:07 >>JENNIFER MALONE: HOW ABOUT NOW?
23:11:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PERFECT.
23:11:09 GO AHEAD.
23:11:09 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, OKAY.
23:11:13 20-78 IS IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE IN THE
23:11:16 SOUTHERN TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
23:11:20 MR. BRYAN WILL SPEAK TO YOU DURING HIS PRESENTATION BUT
23:11:23 WE ARE EAST OF NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
23:11:24 WE HAVE THE INTERSTATE HERE.
23:11:27 THERE IS A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES ON FLORIDA AVENUE
23:11:30 THAT TRANSITIONS TO A MIXTURE OF USES IN THE
23:11:33 NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:11:34 THE PROPOSAL IS REQUESTING SEVERAL DIFFERENT USES.
23:11:38 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS LOOKED INTO EACH OF THOSE
23:11:41 USES AND HAS FOUND THAT EACH OPTION IS WITHIN THE
23:11:46 ALLOWABLE DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL FUTURE
23:11:51 LAND USE DESIGNATION SO IT IS RESIDENTIAL 83, DARK COLOR
23:11:55 ON THE SUBJECT SITE, CAN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 IS THE
23:11:58 RED ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES.
23:12:04 REZONING IS ALSO UTILIZING AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, SO I
23:12:07 WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES
23:12:09 SUPPORT THE CONVERSION OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS TO
23:12:12 PROVIDE IN-FILL HOUSING AND SERVICES, AND THAT IS
23:12:15 SUPPORTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
23:12:17 SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NUMBER OF POLICIES AND I
23:12:20 AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
23:12:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
23:12:24 HEARING NONE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
23:12:26 RYAN RUIN ITEM 16 IS FILE REZ 20-78.
23:12:31 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 308 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
23:12:33 ON PAGE 1 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT YOU WILL SEE THE WAIVES
23:12:36 THAT ARE LISTED.
23:12:36 THERE ARE SOME PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS FROM A FEW
23:12:39 REZONINGS AGO, REZ 19-99-27, AND THERE'S ANOTHER WAIVER
23:12:45 FROM REZ-13-78 TO THE PROPOSED TWO NEW WAIVERS PRESENTED
23:12:50 ON PAGE 2 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT.
23:12:52 THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY
23:12:54 AT 308 EAST 7th AVENUE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, FILE
23:12:59 38 FOR PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, MULTIFAMILY
23:13:01 RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL TO PD
23:13:03 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
23:13:07 ASSEMBLY, OFFICE, BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL USES.
23:13:09 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED TWO LOTS TO THE EAST OF 7th
23:13:12 AVENUE, EAST 7TH AVENUE AND NORTH MORGAN STREET
23:13:16 INTERSECTION.
23:13:17 SETBACKS FOR THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE ARE NORTH 20 FEET
23:13:20 SOUTH 16 FEET EAST, 7 FEET AND WEST 7 FEET.
23:13:24 AND THE SETBACKS FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ARE NORTH 3
23:13:27 FEET, SOUTH 60 FEET, EAST 3 FEET, WEST 1.5.
23:13:32 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DID REQUEST THAT THE SETBACK FOR
23:13:34 THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BE A WHOLE NUMBER OF ONE FOOT AND
23:13:37 THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL REVISION THAT'S REQUESTED BETWEEN
23:13:40 FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED TONIGHT.
23:13:43 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 40 FEET FOR
23:13:46 THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND 15 FEET FOR THE ACCESSORY
23:13:49 STRUCTURE.
23:13:50 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY PD ZONING DISTRICT TO THE
23:13:53 NORTH WITH OFFICE USE SOUTH OF MULTIFAMILY USE AND WEST
23:13:56 WITH SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USE, AND OFFICE USE IN THE CM
23:14:00 ZONING DISTRICT TO THE EAST.
23:14:02 THE PROPERTY IS IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS LOCAL HISTORIC
23:14:05 DISTRICT, AND THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
23:14:07 THE PROPERTY DID RECEIVE A RECENT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
23:14:11 COMMITTEE ARC APPROVAL FILE ARC 20-366 AND THAT WAS
23:14:16 APPROVED ON 10-8 OF 2020.
23:14:19 AS JENNIFER DID STATE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS
23:14:22 FOR THE USES AND THROUGH THE COORDINATION WITH ZONING AS
23:14:26 WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE APPLICANT, WE
23:14:28 WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT IT MELT ALL OF THE
23:14:30 REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE
23:14:32 MOST INTENSE USE FOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT'S
23:14:35 WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT WAIVER, THE PROPOSED NEW
23:14:37 WAIVER FOR THAT REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING FROM 1313
23:14:40 TO 6.
23:14:44 WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE A FEW HISTORIC -- I'M
23:14:48 SORRY, ONE HISTORIC LANDMARK WITHIN 1,000 FEET, A LOCAL
23:14:52 LANDMARK, FARRIS COMPANY BUILDING, 1701 NORTH FRANKLIN
23:14:55 STREET, ORDINANCE STATES 5-19-2017.
23:15:01 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION HAD
23:15:03 SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN
23:15:05 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
23:15:07 AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
23:15:10 THE APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
23:15:12 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
23:15:13 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REFER TO THE FINDINGS BY
23:15:16 TRANSPORTATION IN RELATION TO THE REQUESTED PARKING
23:15:18 REDUCTION WAIVER.
23:15:19 IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
23:15:21 APPLICATION, THERE ARE THE MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN
23:15:24 FIRST AND SECOND READING AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT
23:15:27 AND REVISION SHEET.
23:15:28 IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION IT WOULD BE
23:15:32 APPRECIATED.
23:15:33 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
23:15:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
23:15:35 HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT.
23:15:37 APPLICANT?
23:15:44 IS ANYBODY HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 16, FLORAVILLA 2020?
23:15:49 >> RICKY PETERIKA.
23:15:54 IS HE VIRTUAL, POSSIBLY?
23:15:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS RICKY PETERIKA VIRTUAL?
23:16:00 >> I DO SEE HIM.
23:16:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
23:16:08 >> RICKY PETERIKA, GETTING MY WEB CAM.
23:16:17 OKAY.
23:16:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
23:16:19 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
23:16:21 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
23:16:22 >> YES.
23:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
23:16:27 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
23:16:29 I HAVE A PRESENTATION I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH.
23:16:32 I AM GOING TO TRY TO GO WARP SPEED CONSIDERING THE HOUR.
23:16:36 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.
23:16:45 LET ME KNOW THAT YOU CAN SEE THE COVER.
23:16:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE CAN.
23:17:04 GO AHEAD.
23:17:05 >> THANK YOU.
23:17:07 GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
23:17:08 RICKY PETERIKA WITH DARK MOSS.
23:17:11 IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU PRESENTING THE REZONING
23:17:14 FOR FLORAVILLA LOCATED AT 308 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
23:17:18 IT'S IN TAMPA HEIGHTS, AS STAFF MENTIONED, JUST NORTH OF
23:17:23 THE PARK APARTMENTS ON 7th AVENUE, EAST OF FLORIDA
23:17:27 AVENUE.
23:17:28 THIS IS A VIEW OF THE CONDITION IN 1915, SANBORN MAP.
23:17:35 AND THIS IS THE CONDITION OF 7th AVENUE IN 1922.
23:17:39 I WAS EXCITED FINDING THIS AND THEN I REALIZED THAT I
23:17:43 THINK WE ARE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE FRAME, UNFORTUNATELY.
23:17:48 AS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF MENTIONED WE ARE IN
23:17:51 RESIDENTIAL 83, HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY UNITS UP TO 24
23:17:56 STORIES.
23:18:01 WE ARE SURROUNDED BY SEVERAL PD AND NEIGHBORHOOD
23:18:07 COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTIES IN THIS SECTION OF TAMPA
23:18:09 HEIGHTS.
23:18:11 THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
23:18:14 THERE'S SEVERAL CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES ON THE BLOCK AS
23:18:17 WELL AS VACANT LOTS, AND SOME LARGE STREET AND TREES.
23:18:24 THIS IS THE CONDITION OF 7th AVENUE WHERE EAST VINE
23:18:28 AS IS NOTED IN 1915, STREET TREES ARE STILL PRESENT.
23:18:32 NORTH JEFFERSON STREET TO THE EAST.
23:18:35 THIS IS LOOKING DOWNTOWN, LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.
23:18:39 NORTH MORGAN STREET TO THE WEST LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS
23:18:44 PALM.
23:18:44 AND EAST OAK TO THE NORTH OF THE BLOCK LOOKING EAST.
23:18:50 AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, 308 EAST
23:18:53 7TH AVENUE.
23:18:55 THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT OR THE PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY
23:18:58 CONSTRUCTED IN 1905 AS REFERRED TO THE GRAMBLING HOUSE IN
23:19:03 THE FLORIDA MASTER SITE RECORD.
23:19:05 WE ARE AWARE OF AN ADDITION THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE
23:19:08 REAR IN ROUGHLY 1999.
23:19:10 THE PROPERTY IS TWO STORIES JUST UNDER 40 FEET.
23:19:13 EACH STORY IS JUST UNDER 2,000 SQUARE FEET MAKING 3,934
23:19:19 SQUARE FEET TOTAL.
23:19:21 IT'S BEEN REZONED A FEW TIMES.
23:19:23 FIRST THERE WAS AN AREA WIDE REZONING FROM I BELIEVE
23:19:26 RM-24 TO PD WHEN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS OFFICE VILLAGE WAS
23:19:31 CREATED ON THIS BLOCK AND HALF OF THE BLOCK TO THE NORTH.
23:19:35 AND THEN 2013 THE MEDITATION CENTER PURCHASED THE
23:19:38 PROPERTY AND REZONED IT TO ADD A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
23:19:42 ASSEMBLY USE.
23:19:44 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE
23:19:47 PROPERTY.
23:19:49 IN BLUE IS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE OF WHICH NO CHANGE IS
23:19:52 PROPOSED.
23:19:54 IN PINK IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT EXISTS.
23:19:59 HERE IS A LITTLE PHOTOGRAPH OF IT.
23:20:02 AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LEAN BECAUSE OF THE
23:20:06 PHOTOGRAPH BUT IT IS ACTUALLY LEANING SLIGHTLY, TOO.
23:20:11 WITHOUT A GARAGE, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT
23:20:14 OUTSIDE STORAGE, SO WITH THIS REQUEST WE WANTED TO BE
23:20:17 ABLE TO VEST THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THIS SINCE IT'S A SITE
23:20:23 PLAN CONTROLLED REQUEST.
23:20:26 EXPAND IT SLIGHTLY.
23:20:28 AND STILL WITH AN ALLOWABLE AMOUNT UNDER THE ACCESSORY
23:20:32 STRUCTURE GUIDELINES.
23:20:34 THIS IS THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND PARKING PAD.
23:20:39 NO CHANGE IS PROPOSED TO THAT, EXCEPT FOR RESTRIPING.
23:20:46 THERE ARE NO PROTECTED TREES ON-SITE.
23:20:50 AND THERE'S NO IMPACT OFF-SITE TREES.
23:20:53 THERE'S SEVERAL CAMPHORS TO THE WEST, THE EAST, SORRY.
23:20:58 AND THE DRIVEWAY EXISTS AND WILL NOT CHANGE.
23:21:03 WE HAVE ONLY HAD AN ARBORIST DO SOME PRUNING AT THE
23:21:07 REQUEST OF OUR INSURANCE AGENCY TO PULL LIMBS OFF.
23:21:13 THESE EXISTING ELEVATIONS CURRENTLY, AND THIS REQUEST
23:21:17 DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGE TO THEM.
23:21:21 AS STAFF NOTED, THERE WERE SEVERAL WAIVERS, HISTORIC
23:21:24 WAIVERS, AND THEY REQUESTED THE TWO WAIVERS MOVING
23:21:29 FORWARD, A PARKING REDUCTION WAIVER WHICH IS REALLY THE
23:21:32 GENESIS OF THIS REQUEST, OF THIS PD.
23:21:38 SINCE THE 2015 REZONING ADDED THE SPECIAL -- OR THE PLACE
23:21:45 OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE, THEY DIDN'T ADDRESS THE
23:21:48 PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
23:21:51 THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED WHICH WAS OFFICE.
23:21:53 AND RELATED TO THAT, WE ARE REQUESTING A VEHICLE USE AREA
23:21:58 REDUCTION FROM 20% TO 10% DUE TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
23:22:05 STAFF MENTIONED SEVERAL MIXED USE SCENARIOS THAT WE
23:22:10 PROPOSED THAT WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE PARKING
23:22:14 SPACE REDUCTION, AND THOSE WERE DIFFERENT LENS OF
23:22:18 BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL, MULTIFAMILY AND RELIGIOUS
23:22:21 ASSEMBLY.
23:22:21 SOMETIMES THEY WERE COMPLETELY ONE USE LIKE BUSINESS
23:22:24 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
23:22:25 SOMETIMES THEY WERE MIXED.
23:22:26 WE JUST WANTED TO MAINTAIN THIS MIX SINCE WE ARE GOING
23:22:31 BEFORE -- OR SINCE THIS NONEUCLIDEAN REQUEST.
23:22:36 IN ORDER TO OFFSET THE PARKING REDUCTION REQUEST, WE JUST
23:22:40 WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE AMPLE STREET PARKING THAT'S
23:22:44 AVAILABLE AROUND THE BLOCK.
23:22:46 THREE OF THE FOUR STREETS ON EITHER SIDE ARE EXTRA WIDE,
23:22:51 OVER 30 FEET.
23:22:52 I PERSONALLY PARK ON THE STREET TO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR MY
23:22:57 EMPLOYEES AND TENANTS.
23:23:00 UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T PARK ON 7th AVENUE AS IT'S
23:23:03 REGULATED WITH SIGNS.
23:23:05 ON THE PD, WE HAVE ALSO COMMITTED TO ENHANCE PARKING
23:23:10 STANDARD, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH KRISTIN ACOSTA AS
23:23:16 AND POWER PEDAL TO BE LISTED AS BIKE FRIENDLY, TO OFFSET
23:23:22 THE NATURE OF THIS PARKING REQUEST.
23:23:23 ADDITIONALLY, THINGS ARE POSTED DOWNTOWN.
23:23:26 WE GET THE INHERENT BENEFITS OF THE TRANSIT ORIENTED
23:23:30 NATURE DEVELOPMENT NATURE OF DOWNTOWN, AND THIS IS THE
23:23:35 PROPERTY SHOWN IN RELATION TO THE PROPOSED PREFERRED
23:23:40 ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT FOR THE STREETCAR EXPANSION.
23:23:42 THAT'S ON THE HORIZON.
23:23:44 THE SECOND WAIVER IS FOR THE VEHICLE USE GREEN SPACE.
23:23:47 THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION IN THE REAR OF THE LOT
23:23:51 SHOWING EXISTING PARKING PAD.
23:23:52 AND THIS REQUEST IS BASICALLY TO ADDRESS THE MINOR OR THE
23:23:58 VERY LIMITED GREEN SPACE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE EXISTING
23:24:02 PAD RATHER THAN REMOVE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE GREEN
23:24:05 SPACE, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO LEAVE IT AS IS AND COUNT
23:24:08 WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
23:24:10 STAFF REQUESTS THIS REMOVAL IN SECOND READING, BUT IN
23:24:14 ORDER TO MAKE SOME OF THE PRESERVATION THAT WE HAVE
23:24:18 REQUESTED, WE ALSO STARTED AN APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER OF
23:24:21 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS PROVISION UNDER SECTION 27-141-E IN
23:24:29 HOPES THAT SINCE WE ARE FILING FOR PD AND THIS CAN ONLY
23:24:33 BE ASKED DURING A PD PROCESS, WE WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT
23:24:37 IN OUR REQUEST.
23:24:40 WE.
23:24:41 RECEIVED ANY SUPPORT OR OBJECTIONS REALLY IN THE PROJECT
23:24:46 THAT REACHES OUT TO TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION
23:24:49 PRESIDENT, WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, BUT THE
23:24:53 CONVERSATIONS DIDN'T CONTINUE, AND I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY
23:24:56 OTHER DISCUSSION.
23:24:58 SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME.
23:25:01 THANK YOU FOR THE PROCESS.
23:25:02 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
23:25:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
23:25:04 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
23:25:05 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE TDR REQUEST DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PART
23:25:14 OF THE PD AND THAT'S WHY STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT BE
23:25:16 REMOVED FROM THE SITE PLAN, AND GO THROUGH THE
23:25:18 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS PER OUR CODE.
23:25:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TDR IS SO RARE. I DIDN'T CATCH WHAT
23:25:36 YOU WERE SAYING.
23:25:37 >> I BELIEVE ORIGINALLY THE APPLICANT WAS UNDER THE
23:25:39 IMPRESSION THAT HE HAD TO DO THAT OR WHILE HE WAS GOING
23:25:41 THROUGH THE PD PROCESS, DIDN'T INCLUDE THE TRANSFER OF
23:25:45 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, TDR, ALONG WITH THIS PD PROCESS,
23:25:48 THROUGH STAFF REVIEW AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE FIND THAT IT
23:25:51 DOES NOT NEED TO BE PART OF THIS PD AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE
23:25:54 REQUESTING IT BE REMOVED FROM THIS PD.
23:25:55 IT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS THAT IS DONE THROUGH HISTORIC
23:25:58 PRESERVATION AND THAT MANAGER.
23:25:59 SO THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THE HISTORIC
23:26:03 PRESERVATION MANAGER RIGHT NOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE TDR
23:26:07 RIGHTS AND THE TRANSMITTAL OF THOSE.
23:26:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I AM NOT SURE, I
23:26:16 BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN OFF COUNCIL WHEN COUNCIL DID
23:26:19 AMEND THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
23:26:23 RIGHTS, AND BEING THAT THIS IS NEW, TO CITY COUNCIL,
23:26:30 PARTICULARLY THIS IS NEW TO THIS CITY COUNCIL, IT MAY BE
23:26:32 APPROPRIATE AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD, PERHAPS WHEN MS.
23:26:37 POST AND LAND DEVELOPMENT ARE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE,
23:26:40 MAYBE TO SCHEDULE THIS AS PART OF A DISCUSSION WITH CITY
23:26:43 COUNCIL TO JUST KNOW WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAVE PUT INTO
23:26:47 PLACE AND WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO COME FROM IT.
23:26:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
23:26:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
23:26:52 ANYBODY ELSE?
23:26:53 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
23:26:55 ITEM NUMBER 16, 20-78?
23:26:58 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
23:27:01 AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING ON THIS
23:27:05 ITEM.
23:27:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
23:27:08 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE'S NOBODY AT THE KIOSK, THANK YOU.
23:27:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE BY MIRANDA, SECONDED
23:27:14 BY CITRO.
23:27:15 ALL IN FAVOR?
23:27:15 ANY OPPOSED?
23:27:16 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS?
23:27:18 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, 16.
23:27:20 >>BILL CARLSON: DO I NEED TO PULL IT OUT OR CAN I JUST
23:27:24 READ IT AS IS?
23:27:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU SAY PULL IT OUT --
23:27:29 >>BILL CARLSON: TRD.
23:27:31 IS IT --
23:27:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 16?
23:27:36 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 20-78, ORDINANCE BEING
23:27:41 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
23:27:43 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 308 EAST 7TH
23:27:46 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
23:27:48 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
23:27:51 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
23:27:55 ASSEMBLY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, OFFICE, BUSINESS
23:27:58 PROFESSIONAL, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF
23:28:01 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, OFFICE,
23:28:04 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
23:28:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE REVISION SHEET.
23:28:11 >>BILL CARLSON: SITE PLAN MODIFICATION.
23:28:19 BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN CONSISTENCY WITH THE
23:28:23 PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF REPORTS.
23:28:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARKING WAIVERS.
23:28:34 SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT.
23:28:34 >>BILL CARLSON: AND PARKING WAIVERS.
23:28:37 >> THERE ARE WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
23:28:41 AGAIN, SO THERE'S TWO PREVIOUS WAIVERS THAT ARE OUTLINED
23:28:47 IN YOUR STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 1, REZ 99-27 AND REZ 15-38,
23:28:55 ANOTHER ONE SECTION 27.238-12. THOSE ARE FROM PREVIOUS
23:28:58 REZONINGS.
23:28:58 THE TWO NEW WAIVERS ARE ON PAGE 2.
23:29:01 THEY ARE LABELED 1 AND 2 AND THAT'S TO REDUCE THE NUMBER
23:29:04 OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FROM 13 TO 6 SPACES AND THAT
23:29:07 WAS 27-283.7.
23:29:10 AND THEN THE SECOND NEW WAIVER IS 27.284.3.3 AND THAT'S
23:29:14 TO REDUCE THE SPACE FROM 20% TO 10%, 170 SQUARE FEET,
23:29:21 WHICH ARE REQUESTED TO BE MODIFIED BETWEEN FIRST AND
23:29:23 SECOND READING.
23:29:26 I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO READ THOSE INTO THE MOTION.
23:29:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
23:29:33 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:29:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.
23:29:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
23:29:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
23:29:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
23:29:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
23:29:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
23:29:45 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND VIERA BEING
23:29:48 ABSENT AT VOTE.
23:29:50 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD DECEMBER 3rd
23:29:52 AT 93:07 A.M.
23:29:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:29:55 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
23:30:02 GOOD EVENING.
23:30:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS THE LAST ITEM.
23:30:04 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM 17, REZ 20-79, 2420 WEST
23:30:13 MISSISSIPPI AVENUE.
23:30:14 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FROM PD MEDICAL AND BUSINESS
23:30:19 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO PD.
23:30:21 PLEASE RETURN TO ME SO I CAN FINISH THE REPORT.
23:30:23 >>JENNIFER MALONE: CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN?
23:30:32 THIS WILL BE BRIEF.
23:30:38 CHRIST, I'M SORRY, MS. MALONE.
23:30:40 THANK YOU.
23:30:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
23:30:43 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
23:30:47 IT IS THE SUBJECT SITE IS BASICALLY ADJACENT TO THE
23:30:51 SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
23:30:52 THERE'S ATTACHED HOUSING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
23:30:58 GENERALLY THERE'S HOUSING WITH ATTACHED WITH SOME
23:31:04 COMMERCIAL USES.
23:31:05 FUTURE LAND USE SUBJECT SITE IS SMU 6, SUBURBAN MIXED USE
23:31:11 6 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, UTILIZED FOR LOW INTENSITY
23:31:17 OFFICE IN-FILL IN AREAS SOUTH OF FLETCHER AVENUE, SO THE
23:31:25 REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT,
23:31:31 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
23:31:33 WE DID FIND THAT THIS REQUEST WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL TO THE
23:31:37 SOUTH, AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, AND EXISTING
23:31:41 BUILDINGS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD TO
23:31:43 BE CONSISTENT WITH.
23:31:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
23:31:52 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM 17, FILE REZ-20-79 FOR PROPERTY
23:31:57 LOCATED AT 2420 WEST MISSISSIPPI AVENUE FROM PD OFFICE
23:32:02 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL TO ALLOW FOR MEDICAL AND/OR
23:32:05 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES, ON THE SOUTHEAST
23:32:09 CORNER OF WEST MISSISSIPPI AVENUE AND SOUTH CAROLINA
23:32:11 AVENUE INTERSECTION.
23:32:13 SETBACKS ARE NORTH 9 FEET, SOUTH 5 FEET, EAST 102 FEET,
23:32:17 AND WEST 34 FEET.
23:32:18 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS LISTED AS 25 FEET.
23:32:22 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR PD WHICH IS FILE
23:32:25 Z-98-49 ORDINANCE 98-177, AND AGAIN THAT'S FOR THE OFFICE
23:32:31 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL USE.
23:32:33 THIS PD DOES PROPOSE TO ADD THAT MEDICAL USE.
23:32:37 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY ZONING DISTRICTS RO-1
23:32:40 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE IN THE NORTH WITH SINGLE-FAMILY AND
23:32:44 MULTIFAMILY USES, SOUTH IN THE PD ZONING DISTRICT WITH
23:32:48 MULTIFAMILY USE, EAST IN THE RM 24/7 RESIDENTIAL
23:32:51 MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY USE, AND
23:32:54 THE WEST RO 24 ZONING -- RM ZONING DISTRICT WITH THE
23:33:00 SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
23:33:02 THERE ARE SOME SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BY
23:33:04 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
23:33:06 TRANSPORTATION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO CHAPTER
23:33:09 27-283.12.
23:33:11 THE CODE REQUIRES THE BACKUP LANE MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 6
23:33:14 FEET.
23:33:14 THAT IS A WAIVER REQUESTED ON PAGE 1 OF YOUR STAFF
23:33:17 REPORT.
23:33:25 AND THAT WOULD CONCLUDE MOST OF THE REPORT.
23:33:28 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
23:33:30 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FINDS
23:33:32 THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
23:33:34 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
23:33:35 PLEASE REFER TO THE FINDINGS PROVIDED BY TRANSPORTATION
23:33:37 IN REFERENCE TO THE BACKUP WAIVER -- WIDTH WAIVER.
23:33:43 IF IT IS THE CITY COUNCIL'S INTENT, THERE ARE
23:33:51 MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
23:33:54 AND IF IT IS APPROVED, PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR REVISION
23:33:58 SHEET.
23:33:58 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
23:34:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
23:34:01 >>TODD PRESSMAN: I APPRECIATE YOUR LATE HOUR HERE.
23:34:08 I DO HAVE A POWER POINT I WILL GO THROUGH QUICKLY.
23:34:11 IF YOU CAN PULL THAT UP, PLEASE.
23:34:16 THIS IS REZ 20-79.
23:34:19 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:34:21 LOCATED IN THE BAY AREA.
23:34:24 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:34:25 LOCATED RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE CROSSTOWN ON MISSISSIPPI.
23:34:29 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:34:31 AT ISSUE IS DR. RADLEY GRIFFIN, A 15 YEAR BOARD CERTIFIED
23:34:36 FAMILY MEDICINE.
23:34:40 HIS WIFE SEPARATES AS A COO.
23:34:42 AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING AT A LOCATION NEARBY.
23:34:49 EAST TAMPA APPROVES, EXISTING OFFICE WAS APPROVED IN 1998
23:34:53 UNDER Z 98-49.
23:34:55 THERE ARE NO FOOTPRINT CHANGES TO THE SITE.
23:34:58 THIS PD ISSUE WAS FOR OFFICE, BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL
23:35:01 OFFICE, TO MEDICAL AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
23:35:06 THE EXISTING CONDITION IS A MINOR WAIVER OF JUST A COUPLE
23:35:13 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE EXISTING AND HAVE BEEN
23:35:15 OPERATIONAL.
23:35:16 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:18 THIS IS THE SITE FROM THE AERIAL.
23:35:20 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET THERE.
23:35:21 WILL BE NO CHANGES IN REGARD TO THE FOOTPRINT.
23:35:24 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:25 THAT'S HOW THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HAS IT.
23:35:28 THAT'S HOW THE BUILDING EXISTS.
23:35:29 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:32 THIS AS YOU WILL SEE IT ON THE STREET.
23:35:34 AND NICE STREET VIEW.
23:35:35 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:37 AS INDICATED, THE SITE WAS APPROVED IN 1998 AS EXISTS.
23:35:41 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:42 THAT IS THE SITE PLAN AT THE TIME.
23:35:44 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:46 AND THIS IS THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED PD PLAN WHICH IS
23:35:49 VIRTUALLY THE SAME THING.
23:35:51 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:52 SAME EXACT BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
23:35:54 AGAIN PD TO PD.
23:35:55 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:35:57 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY SMU 6.
23:35:59 AS YOU KNOW THAT'S A VERY INTENSIVE LAND USE CATEGORY
23:36:02 WHICH IS SUITABLE FOR MIXED USE PROJECTS AT SUBURBAN
23:36:06 SCALE, LIMITED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL
23:36:08 OFFICE, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
23:36:09 THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ON THIS SITE, 50% OF WHAT IS ALLOWED.
23:36:13 SO THE SITE IS FAR BELOW FOOTPRINT SIZE.
23:36:17 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
23:36:18 PLANNING COMMISSION KNOWS THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING IS
23:36:20 CONSISTENT.
23:36:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-TERM PATTERN IN SMU 6 COMPARABLE
23:36:25 COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
23:36:28 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
23:36:29 ZONING DEPARTMENT PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH
23:36:33 SURROUNDING USES, ELEVATIONS PROVIDED OF AN EXISTING
23:36:35 OFFICE BUILDING, COMPLEMENTARY TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
23:36:39 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
23:36:42 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
23:36:44 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
23:36:45 MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN THE RECORD AN E-MAIL
23:36:48 FROM THE ABUTTING OWNER TO THE EAST NOTING THEY ARE
23:36:52 ABUTTING OWNERS AND FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THE OFFICE USE AS
23:36:56 PROPOSED, HAS EXISTED FOR A VERY LONG TIME, FACILITY
23:36:59 FUNCTIONS WELL, ALL ACTIVITY WILL BE INSIDE, THE BUILDING
23:37:04 IS A NICE BUFFER AND TRANSITIONS FOR THE CROSSTOWN
23:37:07 EXPRESSWAY WHICH WE THINK IS AN IMPORTANT POINT COME FROM
23:37:11 THE BUSY CROSSTOWN, AND AS A CONTINUATION OF THE SITE F.I
23:37:17 MAY PUT THIS IN THE RECORD.
23:37:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:37:19 ANYTHING ELSE?
23:37:30 >>TODD PRESSMAN: HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
23:37:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN ON
23:37:34 ITEM NUMBER 17?
23:37:35 GO AHEAD.
23:37:36 STATE YOUR NAME.
23:37:37 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
23:37:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU GET THE PATIENCE AWARD.
23:37:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SIX AND A HALF
23:37:44 HOURS.
23:37:45 >> MY NAME IS DONALD.
23:37:46 I AM DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS BUILDING HERE.
23:37:48 THE BUILDING HAS BEEN A PAIN IN THE BY THE BECAUSE THE
23:37:51 CITY ALLOWS THEM TO PUT ANOTHER PARKING LOT, WHICH WAS A
23:37:54 GRAVEL PARKING LOT.
23:37:56 BEFORE WHEN I MOVED THERE, I LIVED THERE 28 YEARS IN A
23:38:00 TOWNHOUSE DIRECTLY BEHIND IT.
23:38:02 MY BACKYARD IS FOUR FEET AWAY FROM THEIR BUILDINGS.
23:38:06 BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS TURNED SIDEWAYS SO THE TOWNHOUSES
23:38:10 WENT DOWN THE SIDE.
23:38:24 HERE IS WHERE THE TOWNHOUSES WHEN THEY WERE BUILT, YOU
23:38:26 CAN SEE -- YOU CAN SEE THE LAND IS THE SAME LEVEL AS OUR
23:38:39 LAND.
23:38:39 RIGHT HERE.
23:38:41 THIS IS MY BACKYARD RIGHT HERE.
23:38:43 AND THE BUILDING THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT
23:38:45 HERE.
23:38:45 THE LAND WAS THE SAME LEVEL.
23:38:48 WHEN THEY BUILT THIS BUILDING HERE, INSTEAD OF DOING A
23:38:52 CONCRETE WALL, THEY TOOK A CEMENT TRUCK ALONG OUR WOOD
23:38:57 SLATTED FENCE AND POURED ROUGH CONCRETE AND RAISED THAT
23:39:00 LAND A FOOT HAIR THAN OURS.
23:39:16 HERE IS THE BACK FENCE LINE.
23:39:17 YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PROPERTY GOES WAY DOWN AT AN ANGLE.
23:39:22 BEHIND OUR TOWNHOUSE IS A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT HANDLES ALL
23:39:25 OUR WATER FOR OUR COMPLEX.
23:39:27 IT'S SUPPOSED TO HANDLE OUR WATER, OUR WATER ONLY.
23:39:31 BUT WHEN THEY DID THE ROUGH CONCRETE, THIS IS WHERE OUR
23:39:37 SLAB TO OUR WOODEN FENCE.
23:39:38 WHEN OUR WOODEN FENCE ROTTED WE HAD TO REMOVE IT.
23:39:41 WE HAD TO -- BECAUSE OF THAT CONCRETE TO MOVE OUR FENCE
23:39:46 IN, SO THERE WAS THE DAM THAT WAS THERE TO BLOCK ALL THE
23:39:50 WATER.
23:39:50 NOW EVERY TIME IT RAINS, WE GET ALL THEIR WATER ON OUR
23:39:53 PROPERTY INTO OUR RETENTION POND, PLUS OUR WATER.
23:39:57 WE GET FLOODED OUT.
23:40:00 AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE IT COMES UNDER THE FENCE, AND
23:40:05 GOES INTO OUR DITCH.
23:40:07 THE CITY ALLOWED THEM TO TAKE THIS PARKING LOT HERE.
23:40:13 IT WAS GRAVEL WITH A HUGE RETENTION POND RIGHT HERE AND
23:40:17 PAVE OVER IT WITH UNDERGROUND WATER SYSTEM WHERE THE
23:40:21 WATER GOES IN A DRAINAGE SYSTEM UNDERNEATH.
23:40:25 SINCE THAT HAPPENED, THIS WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH SO THEY HAD
23:40:29 TO RAISE THE FRONT RETENTION POND, THE WALLS RIGHT HERE.
23:40:36 THEY HAD TO RAISE THIS ONE EVEN BIGGER.
23:40:39 SO THE HILL WAS EVEN MORE.
23:40:42 SO NOW WE GET REALLY FLOODED OUT.
23:40:44 WE GO AS THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, CAN YOU DO ANYTHING?
23:40:49 HE GOES, WE DID EVERYTHING THE CITY PERMITTED US TO DO,
23:40:54 SO YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.
23:40:55 SO WE HAD TO GET FLOOD INSURANCE ON THIS SIDE OF THE
23:41:00 DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NINE TOWN HOUSES, FIVE OF US ARE
23:41:03 RETIRED.
23:41:04 WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SIT THERE AND PUT OUT FOR A
23:41:07 CONCRETE WALL OR WHATEVER.
23:41:10 IT WAS THEIR MISTAKE.
23:41:11 THE CITY SHOULD HAVE NEVER LET THEM RAISE THE LAND.
23:41:14 AND NOW WE ARE GETTING SCREWED ABOUT IT.
23:41:18 THEY HAVE 46 PARKING PLACES WHERE THEY ONLY HAD 10.
23:41:22 NOW THEY HAVE GOT 46.
23:41:23 THIS DOES NOT BELONG IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
23:41:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
23:41:35 NEXT SPEAKER.
23:41:35 >> MY NAME IS KIM PRICE.
23:41:42 I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF 2410 WEST CHICAGO AVENUE.
23:41:46 AND DONALD IS THE PRESIDENT OF OUR ASSOCIATION.
23:41:49 I'M THE TREASURER AND THE SECRETARY.
23:41:51 YOU GUYS HAVE THE PETITION THAT COMES PART OF THE
23:41:54 PACKAGE?
23:41:55 I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GET.
23:41:59 WE PUT ON RECORD UPLOADED AS REQUESTED A PETITION FROM
23:42:03 ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS.
23:42:04 WE HAVE LETTERS THAT HAVE GONE INTO, WHICH YOU SHOULD
23:42:08 HAVE AS WELL.
23:42:11 BASICALLY, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE
23:42:13 ZONING, IN OUR UNDERSTANDING, IS TO SEGREGATE USES THAT
23:42:17 ARE INCOMPATIBLE AND ZONING SHOULD BE USED TO PRESERVE
23:42:24 THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.
23:42:25 IT SHOULD ASSURE THAT ANYTHING NEW ON A NEIGHBORING
23:42:30 PROPERTY WILL BE IN HARM ANY WITH THE AREA, HELP PROTECT
23:42:33 OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND KEEPING INCOMPATIBLE USES AWAY
23:42:38 FROM OUR PROPERTY AND IF ZONING HAS NO MEANING THEN
23:42:42 WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF INSTITUTING IT?
23:42:44 SO THIS COMMUNITY HAS ONE AND A HALF BLOCKS AWAY.
23:42:50 IT HAS THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS ON HOWARD.
23:42:51 DENYING REZONING FOR THEM WOULD HAVE LITTLE IMPACT ON
23:42:54 THEIR BUSINESS MODEL OR THEIR CUSTOMER BASE AND IT WOULD
23:42:57 HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
23:43:01 THE ORIGINAL OWNER, THE PROPERTY WAS GRANDFATHERED WHEN
23:43:05 THE ZONING WAS IN PLACE AND THE CITY ALLOWED SUBSEQUENT
23:43:07 OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY TO MAKE CHANGES THAT HAVE
23:43:10 ADVERSELY AFFECTED US 100%.
23:43:13 THEY WERE ALLOWED TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THEIR PARKING
23:43:15 LOT, INCREASING THE DROP-OFF ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, CAUSE
23:43:19 EXCESSIVE RUNOFF INTO THE BACK OF THE HOME OWNERS LOTS,
23:43:22 THEIR PARKING LOT WAS TOO SMALL FOR THEIR NEEDS,
23:43:24 RESULTING IN VEHICLES PARKING ON THE STREETS, BLOCKING
23:43:28 VISIONS, EMBANKMENT OF THE RETENTION POND WAS RAISED AS
23:43:31 OPPOSED TO THE POND BEING DUG FOR THEIR INCREASING RUNOFF
23:43:35 INTO OUR AREA.
23:43:36 THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PERIMETER FENCE THAT IS OWNED
23:43:38 BY US AND TO WHICH THEY DO NOT CONTRIBUTE, BUT THEY
23:43:41 INCLUDE IN THE THEIR PLAT DRAWING.
23:43:44 AS IF IT WAS THEIRS.
23:43:46 THEIR GARBAGE, RECYCLING RECEPTACLES ARE OVERFLOWING ON
23:43:50 THE SIDEWALK.
23:43:51 THEIR LANDSCAPING IS OVERFLOWING ON THE BEDS AND NOW THE
23:43:55 PROPERTY WANTS ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCES.
23:43:56 SO WE BELIEVE BUSINESSES SHOULD BE WHERE THEY BELONG, OUT
23:43:59 OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS.
23:44:04 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
23:44:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
23:44:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST PROCEDURALLY.
23:44:10 I DON'T SEE THE PETITION, MRS. PRICE, THAT YOU MADE
23:44:14 REFERENCE TO.
23:44:15 >> I UPLOADED IT TO THE CITY SITE.
23:44:18 THIS WAS THE LETTERS THAT WERE WRITTEN BY THE HOMEOWNERS,
23:44:23 OUR PETITION, WHICH WAS AGAINST THE REZONING.
23:44:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES THE CLERK HAVE A COPY OF THE
23:44:30 PETITION?
23:44:31 >> WE DID RECEIVE IT AND UPLOADED ON SIRE.
23:44:37 >> IT IS OR IS NOT?
23:44:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APPARENTLY THEY ARE IN THE RECORD.
23:44:40 >> WE ARE TOLD EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO GO TO YOU WOULD
23:44:43 IN THERE SO THERE'S LETTERS FROM NEIGHBORS.
23:44:46 THERE'S A PETITION.
23:44:48 THERE'S SIGNATURES.
23:44:51 JUST EVERY TIME THERE'S ANOTHER ALLOWANCE, ANOTHER CLIENT
23:44:55 COMES IN IT ADVERSELY AFFECTS US.
23:44:57 WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY.
23:45:00 WE ARE 100% RESIDENTIAL.
23:45:02 THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS.
23:45:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS -- YOU
23:45:10 UPLOADED THESE, RIGHT?
23:45:11 >> YES, SIR.
23:45:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THE PETITIONER HAVE ANY ISSUES
23:45:14 WITH THE FACT -- I DO NOT SEE IT MYSELF.
23:45:18 I AM WONDERING BECAUSE GENERALLY FOR THE RECORD, IF A
23:45:22 PETITION IN AND OF ITSELF, THOUGH A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS
23:45:27 MIGHT HAVE SIGNED IT, THE PETITION DOES NOT NECESSARILY
23:45:31 GIVE IT ANY GREATER WEIGHT WHATSOEVER.
23:45:34 IT'S THE FACTS CONTAINED THEREIN AND THE EVIDENCE
23:45:37 PRODUCED UPON WHICH YOU HAVE TO RELY YOUR DECISION.
23:45:40 YOUR DECISION HAS TO RELY UPON.
23:45:42 SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS IF COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL
23:45:45 THE NEED TO DO THAT, YOU DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY HAVE IT
23:45:50 DISTRIBUTED AND IS MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
23:45:53 AND IT IS RECEIVED AND FILED AT THE END OF THE HEARING --
23:45:57 AT THE END OF THE EVENING.
23:45:58 SO COUNCIL, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
23:46:01 YOU FEEL IS NECESSARY THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE, THAT YOU NEED
23:46:07 TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY
23:46:11 REVIEWED THEM, AND I DON'T THINK --
23:46:17 >> I MEAN, I HAVE A COPY THAT YOU ARE WELCOME TO TAKE.
23:46:22 I DON'T HAVE ONE FOR EVERYBODY.
23:46:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE GIVEN TO THE
23:46:26 CLERK AND THEN UPLOADED.
23:46:27 >> I DID WHAT I WAS ASKED TO DO AND IT WAS UPLOADED ON
23:46:30 THERE.
23:46:30 >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE YOU ALL TALKED TO STORMWATER OR
23:46:36 OTHER FOLKS IN THE CITY TO SEA IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF
23:46:39 RELIEF?
23:46:40 WHAT KIND OF ANSWER?
23:46:41 >> THE ONLY THING THAT ANYBODY TOLD US THAT WOULD REMEDY
23:46:43 IT WOULD BE A BRICK WALL, SOMETHING THAT ANY OTHER
23:46:48 PROPERTY WOULD HAVE DONE, THEY WOULD HAVE PUT A BRICK
23:46:50 WALL BETWEEN ANY BUILDING, EVEN IF IT REZONED TO
23:46:54 RESIDENTIAL WHICH WOULD BE OUR PREFERENCE, NOT EVEN
23:46:57 COMMERCIAL, BUT EVEN IF IT WERE REZONED TO RESIDENTIAL,
23:47:03 IT WOULD REQUIRE A BRICK BUILDING, NORMALLY, IN THAT
23:47:06 SITUATION.
23:47:07 BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, IT JUST KEEPS GETTING HIGHER AND
23:47:10 HIGHER AND HIGHER.
23:47:11 AND WE HAVE LOST LIKE DONALD SAID, HE LIVES ON THAT SIDE.
23:47:14 I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET BUT WE ARE STILL AFFECTED BY IT
23:47:17 JUST FROM TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT HE'S ON
23:47:20 MISSISSIPPI AND CAROLINA.
23:47:22 SO THIS PROPERTY OVER THERE IS JUST COMING STRAIGHT DOWN
23:47:27 INTO OUR PROPERTY.
23:47:29 AND NOW OUR FENCES, WE HAVE GOT MAYBE FOUR FEET OF FENCE
23:47:33 WHEREAS AT ONE TIME WE HAD SIX AND A HALF FEET OF FENCE
23:47:36 PLUS WE HAVE CAMERAS ALL ALONG THERE TRAINED ON.
23:47:39 >>BILL CARLSON: MY BRAIN IS NOT WORKING.
23:47:43 >> TRUST ME, I'M OLD AND HUNGRY AND CRANKY, TOO.
23:47:48 >>BILL CARLSON: IT SEEMS FOR THAT ISSUE -- AND LEGAL,
23:47:51 STOP ME -- BUT FOR THAT ISSUE, ALL WE ARE DOING IS ADDING
23:47:57 MEDICAL TO THE PD, RIGHT?
23:47:59 >> WELL, YOU ARE ALSO ADDING MEDICAL WASTE.
23:48:02 YOU ARE ADDING VEHICLES TO GET RID OF THAT WASTE.
23:48:06 AND EVERY TIME WE OPEN ONE TINY THING UP, IT WAS 25 FEET.
23:48:11 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT JUST FOR THAT POINT, SOMEBODY COULD
23:48:14 GO IN WITH SOME OTHER BUSINESS USE, NOT MEDICAL, AND USE
23:48:17 THE EXACT SAME FOOTPRINT AND THE SAME ISSUE WOULD BE
23:48:20 THERE.
23:48:20 SO WHOEVER OWNS THAT PROPERTY HAS TO FIX IT, OR YOU ALL
23:48:24 HAVE TO FIX IT OR THE CITY HAS TO FIX IT.
23:48:27 I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER CHOICES THERE ARE.
23:48:28 >> WHEN YOU SAY WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FIX IT?
23:48:32 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I AM SAYING THE CHOICES WOULD BE --
23:48:35 AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO DECIDE THIS TONIGHT.
23:48:37 I'M JUST BRAINSTORMING.
23:48:39 EITHER WHOEVER OWNS THAT PROPERTY FIXES IT, YOUR SITE
23:48:45 FIXES IT OR THE CITY FIXES IT.
23:48:47 BECAUSE --
23:48:49 >> WELL, THE ESTABLISHMENT COULD ALSO -- WHAT ABOUT AN
23:48:53 URGENT CENTER?
23:48:54 SO NOW YOU HAVE 100% RESIDENTIAL.
23:48:56 ONCE YOU OPEN THIS UP TO MEDICAL, IT COULD BECOME AN
23:48:59 URGENT CENTER, IT COULD BECOME AN EMERGENCY CENTER.
23:49:02 THERE COULD BE AMBULANCES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
23:49:05 AGAIN, YOU ARE 100% RESIDENTIAL.
23:49:08 >>BILL CARLSON: AND WITHOUT MEDICAL, THE FLOODING
23:49:15 PROBLEMS ARE STILL THERE, RIGHT?
23:49:17 >> ALL THE PROBLEMS ARE STILL THERE.
23:49:18 BUT THEY JUST OPENED THEIR PRACTICE BIGGER AND BIGGER
23:49:22 EACH TIME, THE CITY ALLOWS WHATEVER HAPPENS ON THIS
23:49:24 PROPERTY TO HAPPEN.
23:49:25 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK STAFF?
23:49:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSOLUTELY.
23:49:33 THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
23:49:34 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A SOLUTION FOR THIS INSIDE THIS
23:49:37 DISCUSSION OR OUTSIDE?
23:49:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE.
23:49:40 THE REQUEST BUFF IS THE USE BEING ADDED TO AN EXISTING
23:49:43 BUSINESS OFFICE PROFESSIONAL USE.
23:49:45 IT'S BEEN THROUGH STORMWATER REVIEW AS FAR AS THE PD
23:49:48 PROCESS.
23:49:48 IT'S BEEN THROUGH SOLID WASTE REVIEW THROUGH THE PD
23:49:51 PROCESS.
23:49:51 >> WE NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE WAS DONE LEGALLY
23:49:55 AND DONE TO SPEC.
23:49:58 IT DOES NOT MEAN IT DIDN'T HAVE ADVERSE AFFECT TO THE
23:50:01 NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY WHICH IS US ON THE OTHER SIDE.
23:50:03 EVERY TIME, IT WAS DONE RIGHT.
23:50:06 WE KNOW IT WAS DONE RIGHT, WHAT WAS DONE.
23:50:11 SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD MAKES
23:50:13 US FEEL LIKE ALL WE ARE DOING IS CLIMBING ANOTHER HILL.
23:50:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I MAY TO EXPAND ON WHAT I WAS GOING
23:50:19 TO SAY.
23:50:20 THE EXISTING BUSINESS OFFICE PROFESSIONAL IS APPROVED PER
23:50:23 THE PREVIOUS PD OR THE EXISTING PD, AND THROUGH
23:50:26 PERMITTING.
23:50:28 THERE ARE NO SITE CHANGES TO THIS PROPOSED PETITION
23:50:31 BEFORE YOU.
23:50:31 THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
23:50:32 OTHER THAN I THINK A SIDEWALK CONNECTION ON ONE OF THE
23:50:35 SIDES THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO
23:50:37 CONNECT THE SIDEWALK TO THE ENTRANCE.
23:50:39 BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE SITE IS EXISTING AND IT'S BEEN
23:50:42 PERMITTED AS THAT WAY.
23:50:43 BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MENTION FOR THE RECORD THAT
23:50:46 STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE, HAVE ALL REVIEWED
23:50:50 THIS PETITION AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT AS WELL.
23:50:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
23:50:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
23:50:56 AND I WANT TO GIVE LEGAL A HEADS UP.
23:50:58 I WOULD LIKE NOT TO BE INTERRUPTED ON THIS QUESTION,
23:51:02 OKAY, EVEN THOUGH I HEARD WHAT RYAN JUST SAID.
23:51:07 MR. PRESSMAN AND DOCTOR.
23:51:12 THANK YOU, MR. PRESSMAN.
23:51:16 >> MEANING ME?
23:51:23 GOTCHA.
23:51:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE YOU GUYS AWARE OF THE SITUATION
23:51:26 THAT THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ARE TALKING ABOUT?
23:51:30 HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD OF THIS PREVIOUSLY?
23:51:32 AND IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE PERHAPS A
23:51:35 LITTLE STEM WALL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WITHOUT ADMITTING
23:51:41 THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A FLOODING ISSUE, APPARENTLY
23:51:45 20-SOMETHING YEARS OF EXPERIENCE NEXT DOOR SEEMS TO
23:51:48 INDICATE THAT MAYBE THERE IS.
23:51:49 SO IS THERE A POSSIBILITY, A, ARE YOU AWARE OF IT, AND,
23:51:53 B, YOU HAVE GOT A BIG INVESTMENT THERE, OKAY.
23:51:57 IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF MAKING A VERY SMALL INVESTMENT
23:52:00 WITH A LITTLE STEM WALL ON THE PROPERTY?
23:52:03 AND YOU GUYS CAN CONFER ABOUT THAT AND LEGAL CAN GET MAD
23:52:06 AT ME FOR ASKING.
23:52:07 >>TODD PRESSMAN: FIRST OF ALL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IF
23:52:21 THIS IS APPROVED, WE WILL TAKE OVER THE PROPERTY, AND
23:52:24 MYSELF JUST WORKING WITH THE GRIFFINS, THEY ARE JUST VERY
23:52:27 NICE PEOPLE, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH THE
23:52:29 NEIGHBORS, WHICH SOUND LIKE MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T IN THE
23:52:32 PAST.
23:52:33 WE DID HEAR SOME OF THESE COMMENTS.
23:52:34 WE DID RESEARCH INTO IT.
23:52:39 A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED ON THIS SITE TO
23:52:42 2018 STANDARD.
23:52:43 OUR THINKING IS THAT THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN VERY POOR
23:52:48 MAINTENANCE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A LOT OF GRATES AND
23:52:50 UNDERGROUND STORAGE AND PIPES.
23:52:53 SO TALK WITH THE ENGINEERS, MY THINKING WAS THERE'S
23:52:57 PROBABLY A BROKE PIPE OR TWO AND MAINTENANCE HASN'T
23:53:01 OCCURRED.
23:53:01 CLEARLY AS YOU ALL KNOW IN SOUTH TAMPA, THERE'S JUST A
23:53:04 LOT OF WATER FLOWING AND I'M SURE THERE'S WATER FLOWING A
23:53:07 LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND A LOT OF IT NOT FROM THIS
23:53:10 PROPERTY.
23:53:10 SOME MAY BE FROM THIS PROPERTY.
23:53:12 I DON'T KNOW.
23:53:13 BUT THE GRIFFINS WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND I CAN
23:53:18 TALK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
23:53:21 WE LOOKED INTO, SEWING I'M SURE WE CAN ADDRESS AND MAKE A
23:53:23 LITTLE BETTER.
23:53:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL FINE AND GOOD BUT IT
23:53:26 DOESN'T GIVE US A WHOLE LOT OF ASSURANCES, THAT SEWING
23:53:30 WOULD SERIOUSLY BE TAKEN ON IT IN THAT REGARD.
23:53:33 >>TODD PRESSMAN: I WOULD SAY A SHORT STEM WALL MAY VERY
23:53:41 WELL AID TO THIS SITUATION BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED
23:53:44 AT WITH ALL THE AGENCIES AND ALL THE CITY AGENCIES AND
23:53:49 SWFWMD TO BE SURE THAT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS ON
23:53:52 OTHER PROPERTIES WITH DIFFERENT WATERS ELSEWHERE.
23:53:55 I CAN'T STAND HERE AND SAY YES, WE WILL PUT A STEM WALL
23:53:57 IN BECAUSE THAT CAN DRASTICALLY MOVE WATER TO THE EAST,
23:54:01 THE WEST, OR SOUTH, AND MAY CAUSE PROBLEMS ELSEWHERE.
23:54:03 BUT THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN EVALUATED.
23:54:05 I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFER YOU.
23:54:08 WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK IN THAT DIRECTION.
23:54:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN WORK AT AND
23:54:13 REPORT BACK TO US BEFORE SECOND READING?
23:54:17 >>TODD PRESSMAN: I CAN ASK THE ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT,
23:54:19 YES.
23:54:20 WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, YES, SIR.
23:54:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
23:54:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
23:54:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN.
23:54:29 ARE YOU CALLING SOMEBODY BACK TO THE LECTERN?
23:54:35 >> YES.
23:54:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO BRING TO THE YOUR
23:54:38 ATTENTION THAT THAT IS NORMALLY NOT DONE AT A HEARING.
23:54:41 OBVIOUSLY THEY DO HAVE A HEARING TO COME BACK AT SECOND
23:54:44 READING OR COMMUNICATE THROUGH E-MAIL BETWEEN NOW AND
23:54:46 THEN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR SOMEBODY
23:54:48 IN THE AUDIENCE.
23:54:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
23:54:50 MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THAT PICTURE YOU ARE HOLDING UP,
23:54:52 SIR?
23:54:53 [ LAUGHTER ]
23:54:55 COME UP AND TELL US.
23:54:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY HAVE WAITED SO LONG.
23:55:00 >> I KNOW.
23:55:03 >>TODD PRESSMAN: WE ARE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THE
23:55:04 GENTLEMAN.
23:55:05 >> HE SAID IT COULD BE A BROKEN PIPE OR SOMETHING.
23:55:07 IT'S A HILL.
23:55:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST PUT IT UP.
23:55:10 >> WATER DOESN'T FLOW UP A HILL.
23:55:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: USE THE MICROPHONE IF YOU COULD, SIR.
23:55:18 >> DO YOU SEE THE HILL?
23:55:20 ALL THE WATER THAT HITS THAT HILL IS GOING TO GO UNDER
23:55:23 OUR FENCE AND TO OUR RETENTION POND.
23:55:25 THERE'S NO WAY.
23:55:25 IT CAN'T BE A BROKEN PIPE.
23:55:27 THE GRATE OF THE LAND, WHEN THEY BUILT THE BUILDING AND
23:55:30 THEN THEY MADE IT TEN TIMES WORSE WHEN THE CITY LET THEM
23:55:34 DO THE PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY DID THE HILL
23:55:37 EVEN BIGGER.
23:55:38 SO IT'S NOT A BROKEN PIPE.
23:55:40 IT'S A HILL.
23:55:41 BECAUSE WATER DOES NOT FLOW UP A HILL.
23:55:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
23:55:47 THE GENTLEMAN INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD CHOIR OF THEIR
23:55:50 ENGINEERS AS A POSSIBLE FIX BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND
23:55:54 READING.
23:55:54 LET'S GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
23:55:56 >>TODD PRESSMAN: SO WHAT I AM INDICATING IS THERE'S A
23:56:04 SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY OF THE GRATES AND THE WATER COMING
23:56:07 IN, AND PIPES FLOW THROUGH THE PROPERTY, THROUGH THE
23:56:11 ENTIRE PROPERTY F.THOSE PAPERS ARE NOT FUNCTIONING OR IF
23:56:14 THEY ARE BROKEN, THEN IT'S A BACKUP.
23:56:16 SO I UNDERSTAND TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE HILL, BUT
23:56:20 THROUGH THE WHOLE PROPERTY, THERE IS PIPING, THE PIPING
23:56:24 IS NOT WORKING AND BACKS UP, THE WATER FLOWS.
23:56:26 SO I'M JUST THINKING THE ENGINEERS INDICATE THOSE ARE TWO
23:56:30 POSSIBLE ISSUES.
23:56:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
23:56:35 >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS NOT A
23:56:39 PERMISSIBLE QUESTION, BUT IF THERE IS A SYSTEM AND
23:56:41 THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENT FOR MANAGING YOUR OWN STORMWATER
23:56:45 RUNOFF, WHAT REMEDY DOES THE COMMUNITY HAVE?
23:56:49 ARE THERE FINES, CODE VIOLATIONS, WHAT?
23:56:53 WHAT RULES GOVERN THAT?
23:56:57 AND CAN WE CONSIDER THAT?
23:56:58 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN. THIS
23:57:01 IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE APPLICATION, AND COUNCIL'S
23:57:06 CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION, BUT HAPPY TO TALK TO
23:57:08 STAFF AS TO WHAT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THERE COULD BE.
23:57:13 I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.
23:57:15 I CAN'T SPECULATE ABOUT THAT.
23:57:17 BUT I DO KNOW THIS DISCUSSION IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE
23:57:19 APPLICATION.
23:57:19 >>BILL CARLSON: SO TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, I WILL
23:57:23 GIVE YOU MY CARD, MAYBE OTHERS WILL.
23:57:26 IT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING TO COME BACK BEFORE
23:57:28 SECOND READING TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU ALL.
23:57:30 SO PLEASE DO THAT.
23:57:33 IF THAT DOESN'T -- ONCE WE ARE PAST THIS PROCESS IF THAT
23:57:38 DOESN'T LEAD TO CONCLUSION, COME TO ME OR MY CON LEAGUES
23:57:41 AND WE'LL HELP YOU NAVIGATE THE CITY TO TRY TO FIX IT.
23:57:45 WHAT THE LEGAL IS TELLING US IS WE CAN'T CONSIDER THAT IN
23:57:48 THIS CONVERSATION.
23:57:51 WE CAN AFTER THIS PROCESS TRY TO WORK WITH YOU AND THEY
23:57:53 ARE GOING TO WORK WITH YOU DURING THE PROCESS.
23:57:58 BUT WE CAN'T CONSIDER IT.
23:57:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, BILL, THEY
23:58:02 INDICATED THEY WOULD GLANCE AT IT WITH THEIR ENGINEER.
23:58:06 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID.
23:58:07 THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.
23:58:09 WE CAN'T HELP YOU UNTIL AFTER THIS PROCESS IS DONE.
23:58:11 BUT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH YOU AND IT COULD BE BY
23:58:13 SECOND READING IT WILL BE SOLVED.
23:58:19 SECOND READING, THERE'S STILL ONE MORE CHANCE TO VOTE ON
23:58:22 IT.
23:58:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WILL BE ANNOUNCED NO MINUTE.
23:58:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO VOTE TWICE BEFORE
23:58:29 SOMETHING IS APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED.
23:58:32 IF IT'S NOT APPROVED THE FIRST TIME IT DIES.
23:58:34 BUT FOR FINAL APPROVAL IT GOES TWO TIMES.
23:58:38 OKAY?
23:58:38 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
23:58:40 >> JUST IN SUMMARY, AGAIN THIS IS PD TO PD, WITH JUST A
23:58:49 MEDICAL USE WITH NEW OWNERS.
23:58:52 ALL THE STAFF SUPPORT IT.
23:58:53 AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
23:58:55 AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK.
23:58:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
23:59:00 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
23:59:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN -- WAIT.
23:59:05 >> WE DID RECEIVE FRANK GREBOWSKI TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
23:59:13 BUT HE'S NOT LOGGED IN.
23:59:14 AND WE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS.
23:59:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I KNOW COMMENTS DOCUMENTS WERE
23:59:21 FILED.
23:59:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO POINT OUT TO MR. PRESSMAN
23:59:27 AND THE GOOD DOCTOR THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD
23:59:29 IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AS RELATED TO INCREASED TRAFFIC,
23:59:33 OKAY, AS RELATED TO THE NEW MEDICAL USE.
23:59:36 I REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE FOOTPRINT, AND I
23:59:39 AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT BUILDING.
23:59:41 HAVING DRIVEN BY IT DAILY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
23:59:46 BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME USE, AND THERE IS EVIDENCE
23:59:51 ON THE RECORD AGAINST IT.
23:59:53 LEGITIMATE EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD AGAINST IT AS RELATED
00:00:59 TO A LEGITIMATE CONCERN, WHICH IS TRAFFIC AND PARKING.
00:00:02 SO I'M JUST SAYING, MR. PRESSMAN, IT'S NOT AN OPEN AND
00:00:07 SHUT CASE.
00:00:08 >>TODD PRESSMAN: I HEAR YOU, COUNCILMAN.
00:00:12 I CERTAINLY DO.
00:00:13 THE PARKING IS NOT A QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY, NOT TO
00:00:17 DEBATE.
00:00:17 THE PARKING IS NOT A QUESTION OF HOW MANY.
00:00:19 THERE'S JUST TWO SPACES THAT HAVE A LITTLE SHORT BACKOUT.
00:00:23 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
00:00:25 THAT'S ALL.
00:00:25 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN LEGAL JUST CONCUR FOR FOLKS IN THE
00:00:30 COMMUNITY, COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS,
00:00:34 IF WE VOTED FOR IT TODAY, UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS COULD WE
00:00:36 CHANGE OUR VOTE THE NEXT TIME?
00:00:38 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
00:00:44 THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE EVIDENCE RECEIVED DURING THE
00:00:48 SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER THAT WOULD
00:00:52 SUPPORT -- IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
00:00:55 EVIDENCE AS IT RELATES TO THE STANDARD OF REVIEW IN
00:00:58 CHAPTER 27 AND RECEIVED DURING YOUR HEARING, IF THIS GOES
00:01:04 TO SECOND READING, IF THIS IS APPROVED THIS EVENING, AND
00:01:08 SECOND READING WOULD BE DECEMBER 3rd.
00:01:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT, COMPETENT,
00:01:17 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR IT
00:01:25 TONIGHT.
00:01:26 >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR FOLKS
00:01:29 IN THE AUDIENCE, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT COMPETENT,
00:01:31 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS?
00:01:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IT'S TESTIMONY AND FACTS AND
00:01:40 DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE THAT ACTUALLY GOES TO THE CRITERIA
00:01:45 WITHIN THE CODE UPON WHICH YOU BASE YOUR DECISION.
00:01:48 YOU APPLY -- IT HAS TO BE COMPETENT, WHICH MEANS IT HAS
00:01:52 TO BE RELEVANT AND MATERIAL, AND IT HAS TO BE
00:01:54 SUBSTANTIAL, WHICH DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN BEYOND A
00:01:58 REASONABLE DOUBT OR BY A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE,
00:02:00 BUT WHAT A COURT WOULD FIND SOMETHING SUFFICIENT UPON
00:02:04 WHICH YOU CAN BASE A DECISION, AND BETWEEN THE
00:02:09 COMPETENCY, THE RELEVANCY AND MATERIAL, IT'S RELEVANT AND
00:02:13 MATERIAL TO THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO APPLY IN THE
00:02:16 CODE.
00:02:17 AND IT'S ON THAT BASIS THAT A COURT LOOKS TO SEE WHETHER
00:02:21 YOUR DECISION IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LEGALLY
00:02:26 SUSTAINED.
00:02:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
00:02:32 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
00:02:36 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
00:02:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:02:38 ANY OPPOSED?
00:02:40 ALL RIGHT.
00:02:41 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS FINAL ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 17?
00:02:47 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
00:02:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL PASS.
00:02:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
00:02:54 MOTION TO -- FILE REZ 20-79, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
00:03:02 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
00:03:05 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2420 WEST MISSISSIPPI
00:03:09 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
00:03:11 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
00:03:14 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS
00:03:17 PROFESSIONAL, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, MEDICAL
00:03:21 OR BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AS
00:03:24 THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN COMPLIANCE
00:03:30 WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 27-136, DEVELOPMENT,
00:03:36 AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN OR ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT
00:03:38 IS LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY TO THE SURROUNDING
00:03:43 NEIGHBORHOOD.
00:03:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
00:03:46 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
00:03:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
00:03:49 I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO A REVISION SHEET.
00:03:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
00:03:54 THANK YOU.
00:03:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH THE REVISION SHEET.
00:03:56 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
00:03:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
00:03:59 ROLL CALL VOTE.
00:03:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
00:04:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
00:04:07 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
00:04:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
00:04:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
00:04:14 >>THE CLERK: MOTION DID NOT CARRY WITH VIERA AND GUDES
00:04:19 ABSENT AT VOTE, DINGFELDER AND CARLSON VOTING NO.
00:04:23 >> THIS WILL BE HEARD A WEEK -- AT THE SAME TIME AS THE
00:04:31 OTHER PETITIONER EARLIER.
00:04:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REOPEN THE HEARING FROM
00:04:36 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
00:04:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:04:41 ANY OPPOSED?
00:04:43 ALL RIGHT.
00:04:44 MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THIS FOR NOVEMBER
00:04:48 19th AT 10:30 A.M.?
00:04:51 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
00:04:53 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
00:04:54 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
00:04:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:04:58 ALL RIGHT.
00:04:59 ANY OPPOSED?
00:05:00 ALL RIGHT.
00:05:00 THIS WILL BE HEARD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COUNCIL.
00:05:03 TWO MEMBERS ARE MISSING.
00:05:06 AT OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, ON THE 19th,
00:05:10 WHICH WILL BE HERE AT 10:30 A.M., THAT'S THE TIME WE PUT
00:05:13 ON THE AGENDA.
00:05:14 IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AT 10:30 DEPENDING ON HOW THE DAY
00:05:18 S.SO THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS, AND WITH A
00:05:22 FULL BOARD.
00:05:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO FOLLOW UP
00:05:25 FOR THE PUBLIC, AS I DID THE LAST SITUATION THAT THIS
00:05:29 CAME UP THIS EVENING, I WILL INFORM THE TWO ABSENT
00:05:32 COUNCIL MEMBERS THE NECESSITY FOR THEM TO REVIEW THIS
00:05:35 FILE RECORD AND BE PREPARED TO VOTE AND ANSWER ANY
00:05:38 QUESTIONS OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT THEY MAY
00:05:40 HAVE WHEN THEY COME BACK SO THAT COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO
00:05:44 VOTE AND RESOLVE THE ISSUE BEFORE COUNCIL.
00:05:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:05:50 THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
00:05:52 NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
00:05:53 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
00:05:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE SIR.
00:05:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:05:57 I MOVE TO REQUEST AS REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
00:06:02 PLANNED AMENDMENT ADOPTION HEARING FOR PACPA 20-01, PACPA
00:06:09 20-21, PACPA 20-22, AND PACPA 20-23, AT 5:01 P.M. ON
00:06:21 JANUARY 21st, 2021, AND DIRECT LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
00:06:24 PROVIDE CITY CLERK WITH FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING
00:06:29 THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
00:06:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
00:06:33 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
00:06:34 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:06:36 ANY OPPOSED?
00:06:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I REQUEST BY PLANNING
00:06:41 COMMISSION SCHEDULED PLAN ADOPTION AMENDMENT HEARING FOR
00:06:45 TACPA 20-04 AND TAPCA 20-12 AT 5:01 P.M., JANUARY
00:06:53 28th, 2021, AND DIRECT LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE
00:06:57 THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING
00:07:00 THE PUBLIC HEARING.
00:07:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
00:07:05 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
00:07:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:07:07 ANY OPPOSED?
00:07:09 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
00:07:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: REQUEST BY PLANNING COMMISSION
00:07:12 SCHEDULING A PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION HEARING FOR TACPA
00:07:15 20-25, TA CPA 20-26, TA CPA 20-27, TA CPA 20-28, 28-29,
00:07:29 AND TACPA 20-31 AT 5:01 P.M. OWN FEBRUARY 25th, 2021
00:07:37 AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK
00:07:40 WITH FORM OF NOTICE ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
00:07:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
00:07:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
00:07:46 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
00:07:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:07:49 ANY OPPOSED?
00:07:50 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
00:07:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:07:53 NOTHING AT THIS TIME.
00:07:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
00:07:56 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
00:07:58 WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA NEXT WEEK.
00:08:01 ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S GOING TO COME UP IS GOING TO BE
00:08:03 BIG IS CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
00:08:05 AND THE SUBSTANCE OF IT, I THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
00:08:10 IS CLOSE TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, BUT AS WE DISCUSSED
00:08:16 THE LAST TIME, THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES THAT TALK
00:08:19 ABOUT THE BALANCE OF POWER WITHIN THE CITY.
00:08:22 AND SO PLEASE, THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND OTHERS ARE GOING TO
00:08:28 BRIEF EACH OF US.
00:08:29 PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ALL LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THAT AND
00:08:32 CONSIDER THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF THE DECISIONS.
00:08:35 THANK YOU.
00:08:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:08:37 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
00:08:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:08:43 WE GAVE A NICE FAREWELL TO MARY EARLIER.
00:08:50 I JUST RECEIVED THIS LETTER.
00:08:51 YOU GUYS PROBABLY GOT IT A WEEK AGO FROM ROBERTA
00:08:55 MEADE-CURRY, WHO HAS BEEN ON OUR PLANNING STAFF FOR 14
00:08:59 YEARS, AND SHE JUST ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO ANNOUNCED HER
00:09:05 RETIREMENT.
00:09:06 AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO ROBERTA, AND
00:09:10 WISH HER A HAPPY AND ENJOYABLE EARLY RETIREMENT.
00:09:14 SHE'S WAY TOO YOUNG TO BE RETIRING.
00:09:17 BUT I WISH HER WELL.
00:09:19 SHE'S BEEN A REAL ASSET, HAS SERVED US IN MANY CAPACITIES
00:09:24 AS A PLANNER TO THE VRB AND TO OTHER BOARDS AND BODIES.
00:09:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSOLUTELY.
00:09:31 AND DID YOU FILE YOUR CONFLICT FORM FROM NOVEMBER 5th
00:09:35 WITH MR. SHELBY?
00:09:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR BRINGING
00:09:39 THAT UP.
00:09:39 WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER FILED IT
00:09:42 WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE LAST WEEK ON NOVEMBER 5th,
00:09:47 BUT THAT WASN'T OFFICIALLY RECEIVED AND FILED. SO I
00:09:50 WOULD LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, EVEN THOUGH YOU
00:09:54 GAVE IT AND IT WAS ACCEPTED ON NOVEMBER 11th, BEATING
00:09:58 THE DEADLINE, I WANT THAT TO BE REFLECTED IN THIS ACTION
00:10:02 SUMMARY THAT IT WAS FILED ON NOVEMBER 5th, AND THAT
00:10:05 IT APPEARS THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SO IT BE RECEIVED
00:10:10 AND FILED.
00:10:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
00:10:11 I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, BUT IF IT'S ALL KOSHER, THAT'S
00:10:16 GOOD AND I ASK THAT IT BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD AS BEING
00:10:20 RECEIVED AND FILED.
00:10:22 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
00:10:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
00:10:27 BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
00:10:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
00:10:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
00:10:32 ALL RIGHT.
00:10:32 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
00:10:33 THANK YOU.
00:10:36
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