TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2020
9:00 A.M.
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09:17:21 >>CHAIRMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
09:17:45 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
09:17:47 ORDER.
09:17:47 I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:17:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES
09:17:55 TO HAVE THE ARRANGEMENTS TO HAVE MR. MICHAEL LEWIS PROVIDE
09:17:58 THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING.
09:18:01 BISHOP LEWIS.
09:18:04 THE PASTOR OF FIRST VICTORY CATHEDRAL CHURCH AT 1920 EAST
09:18:10 SLIGH AVENUE.
09:18:10 HE WILL BE CELEBRATING 40 YEARS OF PREACHING ON NOVEMBER
09:18:13 29th.
09:18:14 HE IS THE PARENT OF THREE ADULT CHILDREN, MIKE JR., JORDAN,
09:18:19 AND HE IS A BUSINESS OWNER, PRESCHOOL, 6 MONTH TO 12 YEARS,
09:18:24 CENTER, AND AS WELL AS THE SCHOLAR CHRISTIAN ACADEMY THROUGH
09:18:29 12TH GRADE, PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL.
09:18:32 HE IS THE PRESIDING FELLOWSHIP OF LEGACY CHURCHES ARCHED
09:18:36 MINISTRY.
09:18:36 HE ENJOYS PLAYING CHESS, SPENDING TIME WITH HIS TWO
09:18:39 ROTTWEILERS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HE LIVES BY THE THEME,
09:18:45 ONLY WHAT YOU DO FOR CHRIST WILL LAST.
09:18:49 WELCOME BISHOP LEWIS.
09:18:52 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND
09:18:55 REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
09:18:56 >> LET US PRAY.
09:19:01 FATHER, IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS
09:19:03 OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TO INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE, YOUR POWER
09:19:08 AND YOUR PURPOSE OVER THIS MEETING.
09:19:13 FATHER, WE ASK NOW THAT YOUR DIVINE WILL WILL BE
09:19:17 ACCOMPLISHED.
09:19:18 WE ASK THAT WE WILL TRUST IN YOU AND IN ALL OF OUR WAYS
09:19:24 ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.
09:19:25 NOW, FATHER, GUIDE OUR MIND, GUIDE OUR UNDERSTANDING, HELP
09:19:29 US MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE
09:19:32 COMMUNITY.
09:19:34 WE DO PRAY IN JESUS NAME.
09:19:37 AMEN.
09:19:37 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:19:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:19:53 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:19:54 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:19:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE CARL.
09:20:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:20:01 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:20:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:20:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:20:06 ALL RIGHT.
09:20:06 WE ARE GOING TO GO TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:20:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
09:20:14 MY PREFERENCE FOR TODAY'S MEETING, YOU APOLOGIZE.
09:20:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
09:20:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:20:21 GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:20:23 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:20:25 TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19th, THE 2020, AND IT IS
09:20:31 THE REGULAR AGENDA MEETING OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HERE AT
09:20:34 THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
09:20:38 THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF
09:20:42 EMERGENCY AND IS BEING CONDUCTED LIVE WITH AN IN-PERSON
09:20:47 QUORUM, AND MADAM CLERK?
09:20:51 >>THE CLERK: IT'S A FULL QUORUM.
09:20:53 >> IN PERSON QUORUM WITH REMOTE PARTICIPATION REFERRING TO
09:20:56 WHAT IS REFERRED TO BY STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES
09:21:00 AND CMT.
09:21:01 THE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY RULES
09:21:03 OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020-225, AND
09:21:08 AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020-490.
09:21:12 THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO
09:21:15 WATCH TODAY'S MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 AND FRONTIER
09:21:19 CHANNEL 15, AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM,
09:21:26 ONE WORD.
09:21:27 AND THIS MEETING IS BEING CONDUCTED WITH THE OPTIONS OF CMT.
09:21:31 THE FOLLOWING ALTERNATIVES METHODS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR
09:21:34 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT OR DURING
09:21:37 PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY.
09:21:38 IN PERSON HERE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER AT 333 SOUTH
09:21:42 FRANKLIN STREET ON THE INTERNET OR WEB AT TAMPAGOV.NET
09:21:46 PUBLIC COMMENT BY VOICE MAIL, BY U.S. MAIL, AND TO BE SPEAK
09:21:50 REMOTELY AT A KIOSK OUTSIDE THIS ROOM IF BECAUSE OF COVID-19
09:21:55 THEY DON'T WANT TO ENTER THE MEETING ROOM.
09:21:57 THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO PREREGISTER TO SPEAK
09:22:01 REMOTELY ON THE GO-TO WEBINAR PLATFORM.
09:22:05 COUNCIL, WITH REGARD TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THEY ARE PER
09:22:11 COUNCIL'S RULES TO BE HEARD AT THE START OF THE MEETING,
09:22:13 COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD WHEN IT
09:22:18 HAPPENS ON THE AGENDA.
09:22:19 THE WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY MAIL OR
09:22:23 E-MAIL HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE
09:22:25 INCLUDED IN THE PERMANENT RECORD OF TODAY'S MEETING, AND
09:22:28 WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I TURN THE MEETING BACK
09:22:31 TO YOU AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:34 A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO THE ADDENDUM AND
09:22:37 APPROVAL OF THE ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.
09:22:39 WE RECEIVED A MEMO TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 61 FOR DISCUSSION
09:22:42 WITH STAFF AVAILABLE AND WITH 61 AND 62 GO TOGETHER BUT I
09:22:48 THINK WE CAN IT ALL THEN.
09:22:50 CORRECT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
09:22:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
09:22:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 68 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP
09:22:54 FIRST, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:22:57 >> NUMBER 13.
09:23:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IN THE ADDENDUM.
09:23:04 THESE ARE JUST ANNOUNCEMENTS.
09:23:06 71, WE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM THE ADMINISTRATION YESTERDAY
09:23:09 THAT IT BE CONTINUED, A CRB DISCUSSION TO A WORKSHOP IN
09:23:15 FEBRUARY OF 2021.
09:23:17 THIS WAS RECEIVED YESTERDAY, SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON
09:23:21 IT, YOU CAN SPEAK ON IT.
09:23:22 WE WON'T BE TAKING ACTION OR DISCUSSING IT TODAY.
09:23:25 BUT IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK
09:23:28 ON IT.
09:23:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT'S FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW
09:23:30 BOARD?
09:23:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:23:32 CRB ITEM NUMBER 71. THEN THAT IS IT FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
09:23:38 IF I CAN GET AN APPROVAL OR MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:23:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.
09:23:45 I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUES ITEM NUMBER 73, FILE CM 20-65, TO
09:23:52 89 TO JANUARY 14th, 9 A.M.
09:23:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:23:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:24:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, DO YOU WANT THAT AS A SEPARATE
09:24:03 MOTION?
09:24:04 HE JUST MADE THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
09:24:06 OH ARE WAS THERE ALREADY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE
09:24:09 THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
09:24:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CITRO MAKES THE MOTION TO REMOVE --
09:24:14 CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 73 TO THE JANUARY --
09:24:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 14th, 9 A.M.
09:24:21 >> SO MOVED.
09:24:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT UNDER STAFF REPORTS OR DO YOU WANT
09:24:24 IT SPECIFICALLY AT A 9 A.M. TIME CERTAIN?
09:24:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:24:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I
09:24:31 BELIEVE.
09:24:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:24:33 ANY OPPOSED?
09:24:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, CAN WE JUST TAKE A
09:24:36 MINUTES TO GO OVER THE ADDENDUM SO THE PUBLIC IS CLEAR AND
09:24:40 ALSO THAT COUNCIL HAS A ROAD MAP?
09:24:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:24:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS A NEW BUSINESS ITEM THAT WAS
09:24:46 SUBMITTED REGARDING -- I BELIEVE AN AGREEMENT.
09:24:54 WITHOUT GETTING INTO IT, COUNCIL, YOU RECEIVED A MEMO.
09:24:57 IS THAT GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS A WALK-ON, SO
09:25:00 THAT WILL BE TAKEN AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT OR WILL IT BE TAKEN
09:25:03 LATER ON IN THE AGENDA, JUST SO THE ADMINISTRATION IS AWARE
09:25:06 OF WHEN YOU INTEND TO TAKE THAT NEW BUSINESS?
09:25:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
09:25:11 I DON'T BELIEVE -- MR. SHELBY INTERRUPTED.
09:25:16 WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
09:25:17 I DON'T THINK THAT FIRST MOTION WAS CLEAR AND THEN MR. CITRO
09:25:20 CAME IN, IN REFERENCE TO THE OTHER CONTINUANCE.
09:25:22 SO THERE ARE TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR AND I THINK --
09:25:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO -- EXCUSE
09:25:28 ME -- REVIEW THE MATERIAL BEFORE YOU TAKE THAT MOTION, JUST
09:25:32 SO WE TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION.
09:25:36 WE HAVE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:25:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:25:40 TELL ME, DID YOU MENTION ITEM 75 AND --
09:25:45 >>> THAT'S FARTHER OF THE ADDENDUM.
09:25:47 WE ARE GOING OVER IT NOW.
09:25:49 MR. SHELBY WAS GOING OVER THE ADDENDUM.
09:25:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXACTLY.
09:25:53 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
09:25:55 OKAY.
09:25:55 ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO HAVE
09:26:01 THAT PUT UNDER -- REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT DOCKET FOR STAFF
09:26:05 TO BE PRESENT.
09:26:05 IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCILMAN?
09:26:08 >> YES, PLEASE.
09:26:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 67 IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
09:26:12 DINGFELDER REQUESTING THAT THAT ITEM BE CONTINUED TO
09:26:15 DECEMBER 3rd OF 2020.
09:26:17 IS THAT YOUR PLEASURE TO DO THAT NOW, COUNCILMAN?
09:26:21 OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT IT WHEN NUMBER 67
09:26:24 COMES UP?
09:26:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 67AND 75 WERE COMPANION ITEMS.
09:26:29 AND SPEAKING WITH STAFF, MIDWEEK, AND -- SPEAKING WITH STAFF
09:26:38 MIDWEEK IT LOOKED LIKE THIS WAS GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY
09:26:41 LONG MEETING AND WE NEEDED A LOT OF TIME TO DISCUSS THOSE
09:26:43 PLANNING ISSUES.
09:26:44 SO STAFF AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT
09:26:49 67 AND 75 BE CONTINUED FOR TWO WEEKS TO DECEMBER 3rd.
09:26:53 THAT'S WHY I READ THE MEMO AND MADE THAT REQUEST.
09:26:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT GOING TO BE YOUR MOTION THEN?
09:26:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:27:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
09:27:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:27:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:27:04 ANY OPPOSED?
09:27:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT TAKES CARE OF 75.
09:27:09 AND NUMBER 71, COUNCIL, DID YOU WANT TO, BEFORE YOU MAKE
09:27:14 THAT MOTION, DID YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST,
09:27:17 OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT MOTION AT THIS TIME, KNOWING
09:27:21 THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:27:25 CERTAINLY THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO SPEAK AND COUNCIL IS
09:27:28 INTERESTED IN WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS -- PUBLIC HAS TO SAY AS
09:27:31 IS ADMINISTRATION AND WE'LL TAKE ALL THOSE COMMENTS AS WE
09:27:34 MOVE FORWARD BUT THE REQUEST OF THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN
09:27:37 TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE IT TO THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP
09:27:39 DATE.
09:27:40 SO DOES COUNCIL WISH TO HOLD THAT MOTION OR MAKE IT AT THIS
09:27:44 TIME?
09:27:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
09:27:47 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT EITHER WAY.
09:27:52 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:27:54 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:27:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE
09:27:58 MOTION NOW TO DEFER IT.
09:28:00 OF COURSE WE NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, ALSO.
09:28:04 AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE HAVE ALL BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE
09:28:07 STAFF, AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND OTHERS
09:28:11 HAVE BEEN IN REGULAR CONVERSATION WITH ACLU, PBA, TAMPA FOR
09:28:18 JUSTICE AND OTHERS, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT AS OF THIS
09:28:22 WEEK THE COMMUNITY IS HAPPY WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT'S ON THE
09:28:25 TABLE, AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, AND THE FEEDBACK FROM CITY
09:28:28 COUNCIL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS ASKED TO
09:28:32 HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO GO BACK AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE OR HAVE
09:28:37 TALKS IN EARNEST TO TRY TO MAKE THE PROPOSAL BETTER.
09:28:40 AND SO FOR ANYONE WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK OUT ON TODAY OR
09:28:43 ANYONE WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, WE ALL ARE PUSHING TO
09:28:47 TRY TO GET IT BETTER SOLUTION, AND THE FEEDBACK WE GET TODAY
09:28:52 WILL HELP ADD TO IT.
09:28:53 BUT I BELIEVE AS A BIG PROPONENT OF MAKING A BETTER
09:28:58 SOLUTION, I THINK MORE TIME WILL GIVE ALL THE PARTIES A
09:29:00 BETTER CHANCE TO MAKE THIS AN EACH BETTER SOLUTION.
09:29:03 HOPEFULLY A MODEL THAT CAN BE COPIED BY OTHER CITIES.
09:29:07 THANK YOU.
09:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:09 MOTION FROM CARLSON.
09:29:10 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:29:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:29:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:29:14 ANY OPPOSED?
09:29:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE?
09:29:18 THAT WILL BE FEBRUARY 25th OF 2021, AND THAT WOULD BE
09:29:22 9 A.M. AT THE WORKSHOP SESSION.
09:29:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT THE MOTION, MADAM CLERK?
09:29:29 >>THE CLERK: YES.
09:29:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:29:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO 68, DID WE DEAL WITH THAT?
09:29:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 68, YES, IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN FIRST
09:29:40 ON THE AGENDA AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:29:42 WE ARE MOVING IT UP.
09:29:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
09:29:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY, NOW THE MOTION TO
09:29:47 APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:29:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
09:29:51 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:29:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:29:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:29:55 ANY OPPOSED?
09:29:57 ALL RIGHT.
09:29:57 THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.
09:29:58 BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WILL HAVE THREE
09:30:01 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:30:02 THOSE THAT ARE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK WILL GO FIRST
09:30:05 BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT ARE REGISTERED TELEPHONE
09:30:09 VIRTUALLY.
09:30:10 YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:30:11 IF YOU COULD ALTERNATE PODIUMS, ONE PERSON AT ONE PODIUM,
09:30:15 THEY SANITIZE, THE NEXT PERSON, AND BACK AND FORTH.
09:30:20 WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU.
09:30:22 YOU HAVE THE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:30:24 THERE ARE NUMBERS ON THE BACK OF YOUR CHAIR.
09:30:26 WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ARE GOING TO GET FOR PUBLIC
09:30:29 COMMENT.
09:30:30 WE'LL CALL IN THE ORDER.
09:30:32 I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 1 IS THE LADY IN THE RED JACKET AND
09:30:34 THEN WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
09:30:36 EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK.
09:30:38 WHENEVER YOU ARE READY, MA'AM, BEGIN.
09:30:47 I FORGOT ONE MORE THING.
09:30:49 REGARDING THE STAFF REPORTS, AND WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS.
09:30:53 WHICH STAFF NEEDS TO STAY AND WHICH NEEDS TO BE RELEASED?
09:31:01 CHIEF BENNETT.
09:31:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET HIS MICROPHONE ON?
09:31:32 NO, NOT YET.
09:31:41 >> I THINK THEY DID THAT ON PURPOSE.
09:31:43 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:32:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO COME TO THIS PODIUM UP
09:32:43 HERE?
09:33:07 >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING.
09:33:09 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:33:11 REFERENCED ON ITEM OF 68, IT WAS KIND OF A BIFURCATED MOTION
09:33:14 FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
09:33:16 TPD SUBMITTED A MEMO ABOUT THEIR ANNUAL STRATEGIC PLAN, AND
09:33:19 I JUST NEED TO KNOW TO ALERT THEM WHETHER THEY ARE NEEDED ON
09:33:22 THAT ITEM OR IT'S GOING TO BE JUST SOLELY FOCUSED ON FIRE.
09:33:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, COUNCILMAN VIERA ON
09:33:31 ITEM 68.
09:33:31 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
09:33:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:33:34 YES, 68 IS MEANT TO BE BOTH FOR POLICE AND FIRE, BUT MY
09:33:40 UNDERSTANDING IS THAT TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A MASTER
09:33:44 PLAN GIVEN EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS, SO THE MOTION IS TO BE
09:33:49 DEALT WITH BOTH WITH POLICE AND FIRE, BUT MOST OF MY REMARKS
09:33:52 WILL BE DEALING WITH FIRE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT APPEARS
09:33:55 THAT POLICE ALREADY HAS A THREE TO FIVE YEAR PLAN.
09:33:58 >>JOHN BENNETT: SO DO WE NEED CHIEF DUGAN?
09:34:04 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, NOT ON MY MOTION.
09:34:07 >>JOHN BENNETT: HE'S AVAILABLE ONLINE IF WE CHANGE OUR
09:34:09 MIND.
09:34:10 THANK YOU.
09:34:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BENNETT?
09:34:13 I'M SORRY.
09:34:14 I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:34:16 AS RELATED TO THAT, WE HAVE A LITTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT ISSUE.
09:34:22 SHOULD WE DELAY THAT OR SHOULD WE --
09:34:27 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
09:34:28 I WOULD SAY NO.
09:34:29 I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PERSONNEL ISSUES GOING ON WITH FIRE,
09:34:32 BUT I WILL DISCUSS SOME DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH FIRE THAT I
09:34:34 BELIEVE REQUIRE THE ATTENTION OF THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS
09:34:39 CITY, SO WHILE THE FORMAL RESPONSIVE REPORT AS TO THE MASTER
09:34:43 PLAN, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:34:45 I WOULD STILL LIKE TO HEAR WHAT'S THERE, WHAT'S FORTHCOMING,
09:34:49 ET CETERA.
09:34:50 BUT THE ITEM ITSELF AND ITS SUBSTANCE, I SAY WE GO FULL
09:34:54 SPEED AHEAD BECAUSE THE ISSUES ARE COMPELLING.
09:34:56 >> NO DISAGREEMENT FROM STAFF.
09:34:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE SAYING TODAY WE ARE GOING TO
09:35:03 BRING THE CHIEF BACK, AND JUST BRING A WRITTEN REPORT --
09:35:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, SIR.
09:35:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE WE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO LET POLICE
09:35:15 COME BACK AT A DIFFERENT TIME OAR JUST LOOK AT THE REPORT?
09:35:18 >>JOHN BENNETT: THEY SUBMITTED A MEMO.
09:35:21 THE REPORT HAPPENS ANNUALLY.
09:35:23 SO IT'S ALWAYS UPDATED AND THEY SUBMITTED THAT THROUGH
09:35:27 MEMORANDUM.
09:35:27 I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU NEEDED THEM TO COME HERE AND SAY
09:35:30 THAT.
09:35:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT THE END OF
09:35:35 NUMBER 68 IF ADDITIONAL ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN?
09:35:39 >> I THINK FOR ME IF THE ITEM 68 WAS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
09:35:42 MASTER PLAN OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA, WE NEED TO HEAR BOTH.
09:35:46 I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON THE AGENDA, BUT PUBLIC
09:35:48 SAFETY IS A MAIN CONCERN IN THE CITY, AND I THINK THAT BOTH
09:35:52 NEED TO BE HEARD.
09:35:58 HE'S ALREADY GOT IT LAID OUT.
09:35:59 >>MARK BENTLEY:
09:36:05 >> COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
09:36:08 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M AMENABLE TO THAT OBVIOUSLY.
09:36:10 GIVEN THE NEWS WITH TAMPA FIRE THAT RECENTLY CAME OUT, THE
09:36:15 COMPELLING NATURE OF CERTAIN FIRE STATIONS AND AREAS, AND
09:36:18 AGAIN WITH THE THREE TO FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT TAMPA POLICE
09:36:20 DEPARTMENT COMES OUT WITH I WAS THINKING THAT WE COULD HAVE
09:36:24 CHIEF DUGAN RETURN AT THAT TIME WHEN THIS ISSUE RETURNS TO
09:36:27 US.
09:36:27 BUT OBVIOUSLY I AM GOING TO --
09:36:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
09:36:35 NO PROBLEM.
09:36:36 AS LONG AS WE GET SOMETHING BACK FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR,
09:36:39 HAVING A PLAN IN FRONT OF US TO HEAR WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR
09:36:41 THE CITY.
09:36:42 SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
09:36:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S THE END RESULT?
09:36:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE
09:36:48 FIRE DEPARTMENT SPEAKING AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT -- WE'LL
09:36:51 DO FIRE TODAY, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA.
09:36:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA.
09:36:54 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:36:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE.
09:36:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT STAFF CAN
09:36:59 BE RELEASED ON OR SHOULD THEY BE ON STANDBY?
09:37:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
09:37:03 ANY SUGGESTIONS?
09:37:04 ANY STAFF REPORTS?
09:37:06 HEARING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:37:09 WE WILL NOW BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:37:11 MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
09:37:11 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:37:12 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:37:13 >> TERESA MILLER.
09:37:15 IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE AGAIN.
09:37:18 YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION BUT TODAY
09:37:21 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PREVENTION, AND
09:37:23 THAT'S PREVENTING THE DEMORALIZATION OF OUR POLICE FORCE
09:37:26 HERE IN TAMPA.
09:37:28 WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED REVISIONS OF THE CITY OF THE
09:37:32 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, NUMBER ONE, ALLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL
09:37:35 TO BE THE SOLE DETERMINING FACTOR OF WHO SITS ON THE BOARD
09:37:39 WILL LEAD TO EXTREME BIASED OUTCOMES AND UNFAIRLY
09:37:43 MISREPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY.
09:37:44 IF ALLOWED, THIS WILL PUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE BOARD IN
09:37:47 JEOPARDY.
09:37:47 BY POTENTIALLY RELYING ON PEOPLE WHO GET MOST OF THEIR
09:37:51 INFORMATION ABOUT POLICE PROCEDURES FROM WATCHING BAD BOYS,
09:37:55 LAW AND ORDER OR MIAMI VICE.
09:37:56 THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO PUTTING A STUDENT IN AS PRINCIPAL FOR
09:37:59 A SCHOOL.
09:38:00 THEY DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATION, EXPERTISE OR KNOWLEDGE TO DO
09:38:03 THE JOB.
09:38:05 IN ADDITION, EXCLUDING EXPERIENCED OFFICERS WHO HAVE A DEEP
09:38:08 UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUES FROM THE BOARD IS TRULY
09:38:11 IRRATIONAL.
09:38:12 NUMBER TWO, GIVING CITIZENS SUBPOENA RIGHTS UNDERMINES THE
09:38:16 LEGAL SYSTEM AND IS NOT ESSENTIAL TO JUSTICE.
09:38:19 GIVEN ESPECIALLY THAT THESE POLICE OFFICERS ARE -- THOSE
09:38:24 THAT HAVE COMPLAINTS ARE BROUGHT UP AGAINST MANY SEVERAL
09:38:27 OTHER BOARDS.
09:38:28 NUMBER THREE, ALLOWING INDEPENDENT AND UNNECESSARY
09:38:31 INVESTIGATORS AND ATTORNEYS REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL
09:38:34 FUNDING.
09:38:36 WHERE IS THIS MONEY GOING TO COME FROM?
09:38:37 WHAT BUDGETS ARE GOING TO BE CUT AND ARE WE GOING TO BE
09:38:40 TAXED FOR THIS UNNECESSARY EXPENSE?
09:38:44 IF THIS BOARD IS A SHAM, AS SOME ADVOCATE GROUPS HAVE
09:38:47 CLAIMED AND BELIEVE, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD DO AWAY WITH THE
09:38:50 BOARD.
09:38:51 BUT CERTAINLY WE SHOULDN'T GIVE IT GREATER POWERS.
09:38:53 OUR CITY CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE OUR DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN ON
09:38:56 THE POLICE FORCE RETIRING EARLY OR QUITTING BECAUSE OF A
09:39:00 LACK OF SUPPORT OF SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS.
09:39:02 THIS IS COMPROMISING THEIR JOBS.
09:39:06 ADVOCATE GROUPS THAT ASSERT THEY CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY IN
09:39:08 OUR COMMUNITY CLEARLY DON'T CARE ABOUT MY FAMILY'S SAFETY.
09:39:12 OTHERWISE THEY WOULD NOT BE ADVOCATING FOR THESE CHANGES.
09:39:15 THESE GROUPS ARE DESTABILIZING OUR POLICE FORCE BY
09:39:17 UNDERMINING THE TRAINING, EXPERIENCE, AND DILIGENCE OF THESE
09:39:21 COMMITTED OFFICERS.
09:39:23 IN THESE TIMES OF UNCERTAINTY, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD WE ARE ONLY
09:39:26 SAFE IF WE STAY AT HOME AND WEAR A MASK.
09:39:28 HOWEVER THERE'S ONE THING I AM VERY CERTAIN ABOUT, THAT I
09:39:30 TRUST THE POLICE.
09:39:32 MY FAMILY'S LIVES DEPENDS ON IT AND EVERY FAMILY IN TAMPA
09:39:36 DEPENDS ON THIS TRUST.
09:39:38 TAMPA WILL CONTINUES TO BE A VIBRANT, SAFE CITY ONLY IF THE
09:39:42 POLICE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB.
09:39:44 INFUSING A SENSE OF APPREHENSION AND DOUBT IN OUR POLICE
09:39:47 FORCE GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO DO
09:39:50 WHICH IS TO PROTECT EVERY PERSON IN TAMPA.
09:39:53 I SUPPORT MAYOR CASTOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND I HOPE YOU DO,
09:39:57 TOO.
09:39:57 THANK YOU.
09:39:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:39:59 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:39:59 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:40:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE WE GOING TO DO
09:40:09 CLAPPING?
09:40:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, NO CLAPPING.
09:40:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON ANY SIDE.
09:40:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:40:14 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:40:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR MIKE IS NOT ON.
09:40:27 >> DON'T WORK?
09:40:28 WANT ME GO TO THIS ONE?
09:40:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S BEEN SANITIZED.
09:40:32 GO AHEAD.
09:40:40 >> MY NAME IS BOBBY MOODY.
09:40:42 I'M PRESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RETIRED FIRE AND POLICE
09:40:45 ASSOCIATION.
09:40:45 WE HAVE 284 MEMBERS, AND WE VOTE.
09:40:49 WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THE PBA.
09:40:51 MAYOR CASTOR AND CHIEF DUGAN.
09:40:54 WE BELIEVE THAT WE DO NOT WANT A CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WITH
09:40:59 INVESTIGATIVE AND SUBPOENA POWERS WE BELIEVE IN THE MAYOR
09:41:03 AND THE CHIEF.
09:41:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:41:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:41:07 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:41:08 >> MY NAME IS CHE SIKUA.
09:41:26 SOMETHING IS WRONG AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
09:41:29 THE INVESTIGATION IN 2015 THE USE OF FORCE INCREASED 24%
09:41:35 UNDER CHIEF DUGAN, AND HOW TPD CONSISTENTLY LIES TO THE
09:41:38 PUBLIC.
09:41:39 LIKE WHEN CHIEF DUGAN SAID THAT NO TEAR GAS OR RUBBER
09:41:42 BULLETS WERE USED AGAINST PROTESTORS.
09:41:44 I WAS THERE.
09:41:45 MANY OF THOSE BEHIND ME WERE THERE.
09:41:46 WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
09:41:48 THE PRESS KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED.
09:41:49 IF THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY WHATSOEVER.
09:41:51 THAT'S WHAT I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
09:41:53 ACCOUNTABILITY.
09:41:54 WE HAVE BEEN TO EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND EVERY
09:41:57 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MEETING AND THERE'S STILL NO
09:42:00 ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHAT TPD DID DURING THE PROTEST, WHAT TPD
09:42:05 DOES TO BROWN AND BLACK COMMUNITIES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
09:42:08 YOU CANNOT EXPECT THE OUT OF CONTROL FORCE TO CONTROL,
09:42:12 MONITOR AND DISCIPLINE ITSELF.
09:42:14 THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS BUREAU IS A JOKE.
09:42:16 DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COMPLAINTS?
09:42:20 DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OFFICERS ON THE STREETS TODAY HAVE A
09:42:22 MULTIPLE USE OF FORCE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THEM?
09:42:25 NO, WE DON'T.
09:42:26 BECAUSE THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT AND THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT IS
09:42:31 SHIELDED FROM ACCOUNTABILITY.
09:42:33 THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE.
09:42:34 YOU ALL HAVE THAT POWER.
09:42:36 THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW -- LET'S TALK
09:42:41 ABOUT THEM.
09:42:41 THE CRB CAN'T INVESTIGATE THE POLICE UNLESS THE POLICE
09:42:45 DEPARTMENT THEMSELVES OPEN UP AN INVESTIGATION FIRST.
09:42:48 THEY CAN'T SUBPOENA DOCUMENTS OR SUBPOENA POLICE OFFICERS TO
09:42:51 TESTIFY.
09:42:51 THEY CAN'T DISCIPLINE OFFICERS.
09:42:53 THEY CAN'T EVEN IMPLEMENT POLICY.
09:42:57 BUT THAT WAS BY DESIGN, RIGHT?
09:42:59 THE POLICE ARE SO SCARED OF ANY SORT OF SCRUTINY THAT THEY
09:43:01 WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL OVER THE SMALLEST FORMS.
09:43:05 THAT'S WHY ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
09:43:09 THEY ARE TERRIFIED OF HAVING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR
09:43:13 ACTIONS.
09:43:14 THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THIS MORNING SO LET ME BE AS
09:43:16 CLEAR AS I CAN.
09:43:17 BLUE LIVES DON'T MATTER.
09:43:19 IT'S NOT A BLUE LIVE, IT'S BLUE SHIRT.
09:43:21 BEING A COP IS A JOB AND JOBS HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.
09:43:24 SO GET A GRIP.
09:43:25 LET'S ALL COME BACK TO REALITY AND LET'S MAKE SOME CHANGES.
09:43:30 THESE GUYS WANTS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT ON THE STREETS AND DO
09:43:33 WHATEVER THEY WANT AND WE CAN PUT A STOP TO THAT, AND A
09:43:37 GREAT PLACE TO START IS BY REVAMPING THE CRB.
09:43:40 THANK YOU.
09:43:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:43:42 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:43:42 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:43:58 THAT GARBAGE INVOCATION YOU ALL DO EVERY THURSDAY, AND THAT
09:44:03 GARBAGE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG YOU DO EVERY
09:44:06 THURSDAY, IN YOUR FACE, IT'S A GOOD THING TO SEE YOUNG
09:44:09 PEOPLE SEEING THAT AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE SEEING IT OUTSIDE OF
09:44:13 RELIGION AND UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T STAND FOR THESE GARBAGE
09:44:15 PREACHERS, GARBAGE RABBIS COMING BEFORE ON CITY TIME OWN
09:44:20 CITY TAXPAYERS MONEY TALKING GARBAGE ABOUT A BLESSED CITY
09:44:25 AND ALL WE SEE IS WRETCHEDNESS.
09:44:27 THAT GARBAGE LADY THAT CAME UP HERE THE FIRST SPEAKER AND
09:44:30 TALKED ABOUT SHE WANT TO SAY, THAT'S RACIST, AND IT'S
09:44:34 INSENSITIVE.
09:44:34 IT'S RACIST AND INSENSITIVE.
09:44:37 BECAUSE AS WE AFRICAN PEOPLE, IT'S WE BLACK AND BROWN
09:44:40 PEOPLE, NOT MF BLUE PEOPLE, THE WRETCHEDNESS OF THE TAMPA
09:44:47 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:44:48 WE DON'T GET PROTECTION EITHER WAY.
09:44:51 WE DON'T GET PROTECTION FROM BEING SAFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
09:44:53 AND YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T
09:44:57 GET PROTECTION FROM TRYING TO BE A PERSON WALKING THE STREET
09:45:01 OR RIDING A DAMN BICYCLE.
09:45:04 OVER 600,000 BICYCLE STOPS AND THAT'S WHERE THIS
09:45:08 INVESTIGATION WAS DONE.
09:45:11 SO IT MIGHT BE A MILLION.
09:45:13 SO THEY INVOLVE RACISM, AND MF'ING WANT YOU TO AGREE WITH
09:45:22 THAT.
09:45:22 IT'S US FEELING THE PAIN.
09:45:27 IT'S YOU WILL BEING PREVENTED TO EXCEL IN THOSE SCHOOLS.
09:45:33 IT'S OUR CHILDREN.
09:45:34 IT'S US AS ADULTS, AS A GROWN MAN, CAN'T RIDE IN A CAR AND
09:45:40 FEEL SAFE WITHOUT BEING HARASSED BY THE POLICE.
09:45:44 AND YOU ALL WANT TO SMILE WITH THAT AND STAND AND PLEDGE
09:45:47 ALLEGIANCE TO A RAG.
09:45:49 YOU ALL TALK ABOUT THE CONFEDERATE FLAG, RED, WHITE AND BLUE
09:45:53 THAT DAMAGED THE AFRICAN PEOPLE SINCE 1776 AND BEYOND.
09:45:57 AND YOU ALL WANTED TO COOPERATE WITH THAT.
09:46:00 YOU ALL WANT TO SIMULATE AND YOU ALL WANT TO PUSH US IN
09:46:07 PLACES WHERE NO BUS ROUTE OR NO SERVICES AND YOU ALL WANT US
09:46:11 TO LIVE WITH THAT, AND THE WORLD EVOLVE TECHNOLOGICALLY AND
09:46:15 THERE'S NO TECHNOLOGY FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
09:46:17 AND FOR OUR REPRESENTATIVES OF DISTRICT 5, ORLANDO GUDES, WE
09:46:21 WANT THESE WHITE FOLKS, WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION.
09:46:27 WE WANT 26% OF THE CITY BUDGET.
09:46:31 AND WE WANT A REFLECTION ACROSS THE BOARD.
09:46:33 WE WANT A REFLECTION IN THE --
09:46:38 WHITE PEOPLE, LET THE PERCENTAGE REFLECT PROPORTIONATELY
09:46:46 INSTEAD OF DISPROPORTIONATELY WHEN IT'S NEGATIVE STUFF.
09:46:53 DISPROPORTIONATELY.
09:46:55 EDUCATION, DISPROPORTIONATELY.
09:46:57 AND THESE A-HOLES TALKING ABOUT UNSAFE.
09:47:01 YOU AIN'T NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING UNSAFE IN YOU'RE WHOLE
09:47:04 DAMN LIFE.
09:47:05 YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED SOMETHING SAFE.
09:47:07 YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED AND HAVING PEOPLE OR SIT IN YOUR
09:47:12 YARD AND HAVING PEOPLE FIRE GUNS.
09:47:15 YOU NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT.
09:47:17 AND YOU DOWN HERE TALKING ABOUT YOU FEEL UNSAFE.
09:47:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:47:22 PLEASE ADDRESS THE BOARD.
09:47:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:47:24 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:47:43 THE MICROPHONE IS NOT WORKING.
09:47:47 TECHNOLOGICAL DIFFICULTIES.
09:47:48 >> SHOULD I GO TO THIS ONE?
09:47:52 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:47:53 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:47:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:47:55 >> MY NAME IS PJ STEELE AND I FIRST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM
09:48:00 VERY DISHEARTENED PEOPLE WON'T STAND FOR THE AMERICAN FLAG.
09:48:06 IT'S THE BEST COUNTRY.
09:48:08 SO IF YOU DOESN'T LIKE IT MAYBE LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
09:48:10 >> YEAH, YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
09:48:15 >> SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, I SUPPORT JANE CASTOR, AND
09:48:21 ALLOWING TPD ON THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, AND IT'S VERY
09:48:26 IMPORTANT FOR OFFICERS, CURRENT AND FORMER, TO BE ABLE TO
09:48:32 GIVE PERSPECTIVE.
09:48:34 THANK YOU.
09:48:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:35 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:48:36 >> IS THE MIKE WORKING?
09:48:54 MY NAME IS FRED ROCK AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF JANE
09:48:57 CASTOR'S REVISION OF THE BOARD.
09:49:00 THANK YOU.
09:49:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:02 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:49:02 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:49:22 I AM SALLY DELINE WITH THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY.
09:49:27 AND THE ONLY REASON I CAME DOWN HERE BECAUSE GOD SENT ME.
09:49:31 I DON'T EVER COME DOWN HERE TO DISTURB YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU
09:49:35 ARE DOING, AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.
09:49:38 SO I AM HERE TO DELIVER HIS WORD TO YOU ALL AND YOU CAN DO
09:49:42 WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.
09:49:45 GOVERNMENTAL LEADERS, CITY COUNCILMEN, I AM HERE ON THE
09:49:49 ISSUE OF BLACK AMERICAN HOMELESSNESS.
09:49:54 OUR PEOPLE IS IN THE STREETS ALL OVER, THE POLICE RUNNING
09:49:58 THEM, ALL THE BUS STOPS, THEY CAN'T STAND, SIT NOWHERE.
09:50:06 MY PROGRAM FOR HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE THE LIBRARY IS CLOSED,
09:50:13 THE DELIVERY OF THE MONEY.
09:50:14 WE WERE LOCKED OUT OF SMALL BUSINESS.
09:50:17 WE COULDN'T EVEN GET IN TO APPLY.
09:50:19 AND I AM JUST HERE TO TELL YOU THAT GOD IS NOT PLEASED WITH
09:50:23 WHAT IS GOING ON, AND HOW PEOPLE IS BEING TREATED AND CHASED
09:50:28 DOWN ALL OVER TOWN, ON NEBRASKA WHERE THEY GET TOGETHER AND
09:50:36 ALL THE AMUSEMENT PARKS AND BEAUTIFUL PLACES.
09:50:42 I DON'T KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS BEHIND THE WAY THEY ARE BEING
09:50:45 TREATED, BUT BEING WAKENED UP AT 3:00, 4:00 IN THE MORNING,
09:50:55 GO DOWN THERE AND TELL THEM WHAT I SAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING
09:50:57 TO BE NICE THE NEXT TIME THAT HE HAS TO RENDER JUSTICE.
09:51:02 AND THE PANDEMIC IS NOT GOING NOWHERE UNTIL OUR PEOPLE GET
09:51:07 TREATED FAIRLY.
09:51:09 AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO VISIT PERSONALLY
09:51:11 OR WHAT.
09:51:12 I DON'T NOTICE, HE DON'T TELL ME HOW HE'S GOING TO REACH
09:51:16 OUT.
09:51:17 I JUST DELIVER THE MESSAGE TO THE LEADERS.
09:51:19 AND THAT'S UP TO THEM TO CARRY IT OUT.
09:51:22 BUT IT NEEDS TO STOP.
09:51:26 CEASE AND DESIST THE WAY THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING THESE
09:51:29 HOMELESS PEOPLE, BLACK AMERICANS, MEN AND WOMEN, OLD AND
09:51:36 YOUNG, ARE THE ONLY ONES NOT BEING SERVED.
09:51:41 AND THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE AND THIS IS THE WORD OF GOD, AND
09:51:44 THE PANDEMIC IS NOT GOING NOWHERE AND THIS NEEDS TO STOP,
09:51:51 THE WAY OUR PEOPLE IS BEING TREATED, AND NO ONE REALLY MY
09:51:56 AGE.
09:51:57 I BEEN SITTING ON NEBRASKA WITH NOWHERE TO GO.
09:51:59 THEY CAN'T GO NOWHERE IN THIS CITY, AND IT'S WRONG, AND IT'S
09:52:05 PITIFUL.
09:52:06 BUT YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO BE IN HOMES, BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM
09:52:12 JUST BEING OUTSIDE IN THE STREET LIKE ANIMALS.
09:52:15 WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, AND GOT TO CEASE AND DESIST NOW.
09:52:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:22 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:52:23 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:52:39 MY NAME IS TERRY ROCK.
09:52:41 AND I STAND HERE AS THE MOTHER OF A FIREFIGHTER.
09:52:43 I NEED TO KNOW THAT WHEN HE IS OFF DOING HIS JOB THAT HE IS
09:52:49 GOING TO BE PROTECTED IN EVERY WAY THAT HE CAN POSSIBLY BE
09:52:54 PROTECTED.
09:52:57 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPOINT ALL THE
09:53:01 MEMBERS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
09:53:05 SO I AM DEFINITELY AGAINST THAT.
09:53:08 AND IF SO, WHY DO WE HAVE A BOARD AT ALL?
09:53:14 IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME: I SUPPORT MAYOR CASTOR,
09:53:18 AND I DON'T SAY THAT ALL THE TIME.
09:53:19 BUT IN THIS CASE I DO SUPPORT MAYOR CASTOR, AND LOOK FORWARD
09:53:23 TO BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER.
09:53:26 THANK YOU.
09:53:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:53:28 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:53:28 >> HELLO.
09:53:39 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:53:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:53:41 >> MY NAME IS BENJI SMITH, I'M A HISPANIC, AND I JUST WANT
09:53:45 TO SHOW MY SUPPORT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
09:53:49 I REALLY AM CONCERNED THAT MORE LAYERS OF POLICE OVERSIGHT
09:53:52 WILL REDUCE THEIR ACTIONS TOWARDS ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.
09:53:57 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T BECOME ANOTHER
09:54:01 PORTLAND.
09:54:02 WE REALLY NEED THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO ACT UPON
09:54:08 CRIME.
09:54:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:10 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:54:10 >> MY NAME IS CLAY DANIELS.
09:54:27 I LIVE AT 3708 EAST NORTH BAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, BEEN THERE
09:54:31 FOR 35 YEARS.
09:54:32 I AM 70 YEARS OLD AND I HATE TO STAY IN MY HOME.
09:54:35 THE NOISE IS SO BAD.
09:54:37 I THOUGHT WHEN I RETIRED I WOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY LIFE.
09:54:41 I JUST WANT TO SIT AND ALMOST CRY.
09:54:44 I BEEN GETTING NO SLEEP LAST NIGHT AND IT'S TERRIBLE.
09:54:47 AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER NEED TO HELP MR. GUDES BECAUSE
09:54:52 YOU ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE OVER THERE, YOU
09:54:55 ALL NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME IN EAST TAMPA TO LIVE IT, TO
09:54:58 SMELL IT, AND SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE.
09:55:02 THE YEAR IS NOT OVER YET.
09:55:05 THE NOISE IS SO BAD IT'S UNBEARABLE.
09:55:07 I BEEN COMING UP HERE FOR 25, 30 YEARS COMPLAINING ABOUT
09:55:10 LOUD MUSIC.
09:55:11 I HAVEN'T GOT ANYWHERE.
09:55:12 BUT WHEN THE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN START COMPLAINING ABOUT THE
09:55:14 MUSIC, THEN YOU ALL WANT TO DO SOMETHING.
09:55:16 BUT WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, TOO.
09:55:18 I CAN'T LIVE IN MY HOME WHERE I PAY TAXES AT.
09:55:21 I HATE TO GO HOME.
09:55:23 WHEN YOU HATE TO GO HOME, WHERE CAN YOU GO, THE NOISE IS SO
09:55:26 BAD?
09:55:27 THE CARS, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, ALL NIGHT LONG.
09:55:30 THEY TAKING OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:55:32 YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT.
09:55:34 IT IS BAD.
09:55:35 I'M 70 YEARS OLD AND CAN'T ENJOY LIFE.
09:55:38 ME AND MY FAMILY.
09:55:40 DON'T I DESERVE THAT IN AMERICA?
09:55:41 IT'S LIKE I'M IN VIETNAM WITH DROPPING BOMBS.
09:55:45 THE WHOLE HOUSE SHAKING.
09:55:47 BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
09:55:48 THE WINDOWS.
09:55:49 AND I'M ASKING MR. BENNETT AND I'M BEGGING THE CITY COUNCIL
09:55:52 MEMBERS TO GET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CRACK DOWN ON THIS
09:55:56 NOISE.
09:55:57 YOU CAN CRACK DOWN ON THIS NOISE.
09:55:59 WE NEED SOME LAW AND ORDER.
09:56:01 CRACK DOWN ON THIS NOISE.
09:56:04 STOP THESE CARS WITH LOUD MUSIC.
09:56:06 YOU GET THESE GUNS OFF THE STREET.
09:56:08 THEN YOU GET THE GUNS, IS THE CRIME RATE DROPS.
09:56:13 THE HOMICIDE CASES.
09:56:15 IT'S ALL HAPPENING IN EAST TAMPA.
09:56:18 YOU ALL ARE FIXING A PUZZLE AND GOT TO COMPLETE THE PUZZLE.
09:56:22 IT MAY LOOK GOOD DOWNTOWN BUT EAST TAMPA DON'T LOOK GOOD.
09:56:26 THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO PENETRATE RIGHT NOW.
09:56:29 IT'S A MESS OVER THERE.
09:56:30 IT'S A MESS.
09:56:32 AND PEOPLE GETTING PAID TO DO THEIR JOB, THEY NEED TO DO IT.
09:56:35 I'M NOT HERE TO CRITICIZE NO ONE.
09:56:37 I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO HELP ME.
09:56:39 WE NEED HELP.
09:56:40 GOD KNOWS WE DO.
09:56:42 WE GOT PROBLEMS OVER THERE.
09:56:44 ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO GET WITH MR. GUDES.
09:56:49 I AM NOT HERE TO CRITICIZE NOBODY OR HURT NOBODY.
09:56:52 THE NOISE PROBLEM IS BAD OVER THERE.
09:56:55 IT GOES OWN ALL NIGHT, ALL DAY LONG.
09:56:57 IT'S LIKE A COCAINE ADDICTION.
09:57:00 BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
09:57:07 WE GOT A MESS ON OUR HANDS.
09:57:08 PLEASE HELP ME.
09:57:12 ALL I HEAR IS TALK AND NO ACTION.
09:57:16 I NEED SOME HELP.
09:57:17 PLEASE HELP.
09:57:21 SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK.
09:57:23 I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
09:57:25 THE SENIOR CITIZENS STARTED A PETITION TO TRY TO GET HELP
09:57:28 WITH THE LOUD MUSIC.
09:57:29 THESE CARS DRIVE ALL OVER THE CITY AND ALL THEY DO IS A
09:57:32 PUBLIC NUISANCE.
09:57:34 BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
09:57:35 ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT LONG.
09:57:36 SO WE ARE ASKING YOU ALL TO GET WITH THE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR
09:57:39 TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM WITH THE LOUD MUSIC FROM
09:57:42 CARS SO PEOPLE LIKE ME CAN LIVE IN OUR HOME AND DIE IN
09:57:46 PEACE.
09:57:46 THANK YOU.
09:57:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:47 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:57:48 >> I JUST WANT TO START OVER BY SAYING THAT I THINK IT'S A
09:58:02 LITTLE EMBARRASSING THAT THE PBA FELT THE NEED TO SEND OUT A
09:58:05 MESSAGE THAT OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO COME TO THIS
09:58:08 TODAY AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT.
09:58:09 CLEARLY THEY MUST BE SO FRIGHTENED BY THE THOUGHT OF
09:58:12 ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THEY ARE SHAKING IN THEIR BOOTS AND THEY
09:58:14 FELT THE NEED TO ORGANIZE AND ALLOW THIS EFFORTS, AND I
09:58:21 QUOTE, YOU ARE THERE TO SUPPORT THE PBA, AGAINST THE ACLU
09:58:26 WHO ARE TRYING TO ADVANCE THE CRB AND GIVE THEM MORE POWER
09:58:29 OVER POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR DISCIPLINE.
09:58:31 I ASK YOU WHY THEY WOULD FIGHT SO HARD AGAINST THIS BECAUSE
09:58:35 IT WOULD SURELY SHINE A BIG SPOTLIGHT ON ALL THE EGREGIOUS
09:58:39 ACTS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO COMMIT LIKE HOW
09:58:41 THEY MURDERED -- A MONTH AGO FOR STEALING A BAG OF CHIPS.
09:58:45 I JUST THINK IT'S WEIRD HOW NO OTHER PROFESSION ASK PEOPLE
09:58:49 TO SUPPORT THEM LIKE THE POLICE DO BY ALLOWING THEM TO DO
09:58:51 WHATEVER THEY WANT TO WHOMEVER THEY WANT WITH NO QUESTIONS
09:58:54 ASKED.
09:58:54 THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA ARE PLEADING FOR POLICE OVERSIGHT.
09:58:57 LITERALLY THERE WERE OVER 100 PROTESTS THIS SUMMER FOR THIS
09:59:01 VERY REASON, AND BECAUSE OF IT WE WANT THE CITIZENS REVIEW
09:59:04 BOARD TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE POWER TO REVIEW WITHOUT IT BEING
09:59:08 THROUGH THE AGENCIES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REVIEWING.
09:59:11 I MEAN COME ON, IT'S SO BLATANTLY OBVIOUS IS THE SUBPOENA
09:59:16 POWER AND CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS IS NECESSARY.
09:59:19 THE POLICE DO BAD THINGS.
09:59:21 THEN THEY COVER IT UP OR CHANGE INFORMATION TO FIT THEIR
09:59:24 NARRATIVE.
09:59:25 THAT'S THE REVIEW BOARD WITH ACTUAL POWERS COULD IDENTIFY
09:59:27 THESE SITUATIONS AND TRULY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
09:59:30 THIS IS UNREASONABLE TO ASSUME THE POLICE ACT IN SUCH AN
09:59:34 UNETHICAL WAY WHEN THEY LITERALLY STAND BY BACK THE BLUE NO
09:59:39 MATTER WHO.
09:59:40 THAT STATEMENT ALONE SHOULD SHOW THERE SHOULD BE OVERSIGHT
09:59:43 AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW THEIR COLLEAGUES ACT.
09:59:46 WE ARE ASKING FOR THE BEAR MINIMUM HERE AND WE KNOW THAT'S
09:59:50 POSSIBLE AS BROWARD COUNTY WAS RECENTLY GRANTED SIMILAR
09:59:53 POWERS TO THEIR BOARD. THIS SHOULD BE ESPECIALLY ALARMING
09:59:55 THAT THE POLICE ARE FIGHTING SO HARD AGAINST THIS AND SHOULD
09:59:57 BE ALL THE MORE REASON TO GRANT POURERS TO THIS BOARD.
10:00:00 PLEASE DO YOUR JOB, CITY COUNCIL, AND REMIT THE CITY AS A
10:00:03 WHOLE AND WHAT WE WANT, NOT JUST THE MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO
10:00:06 WANT TO ENSURE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:00:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?
10:00:12 >> MADISON REMBRANDT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:00:18 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:00:19 >> MY NAME IS MORGAN SALSIDER.
10:00:38 I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA MY ENTIRE LIFE.
10:00:40 SO I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO CALL ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE
10:00:43 THIRD CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MEETING I HAVE BEEN TO REGARDING
10:00:47 THIS SAME TOPIC AND NOTHING EVER DONE, NO LEGISLATION, NO
10:00:51 PROGRAMS, NO CHANGE.
10:00:55 AND WITH THAT, THE TOPIC OF THIS MEETING IS FINALLY
10:00:59 CULMINATED TO THIS, THE TOPIC OF THE MEETING REGARDING THIS
10:01:02 OPPORTUNITY FOR ACTION TO BE POSSIBLE, BUT THE POLICE ARE
10:01:06 VERY AGAINST THIS IDEA OF SUBPOENA POWER TO A BOARD THAT HAS
10:01:11 NO POWER AT ALL.
10:01:12 THE BOARD COMPRISED AND GUIDED BY THE IDEAS AND NEEDS OF THE
10:01:16 PEOPLE.
10:01:16 THE BOARD THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HOLD THE POLICE ACCOUNTABLE
10:01:20 DOESN'T HAVE ANY POWER, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
10:01:24 AND THE POLICE WANT --
10:01:29 THIS HAS BEEN SEEN BY THEIR EXTREME EFFORT TO BE THE
10:01:33 ANTITHESIS OF PROGRESS AND PUSH AGAINST THE WILL OF THE
10:01:36 PEOPLE RATHER THAN BE WELCOME AND ACCEPTING TO IT.
10:01:41 AND THE RHETORIC OF THE E-MAIL MENTIONED PRIOR IS TRYING TO
10:01:48 MOBILIZE SUPPORTERS, HEAVILY BIASED AND CITIZENS MADE VERY
10:01:56 CLEAR TIME AND TIME AGAIN HOW THE POLICE HAVE BEEN INGRAINED
10:01:59 WITH IMPLICIT BIAS TO ONLY SERVE SELECTIVELY AND SELFISHLY,
10:02:05 AND WHAT'S SCARIER IS THEIR SCRAMBLE TO UNIFY TO FIGHT OFF
10:02:10 INVESTIGATIVE BODY IN A WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE CITY.
10:02:13 AND AN INVESTIGATIVE BODY ALREADY IS GOOD FOR THE POLICE
10:02:18 DEPARTMENT BUT NULLIFIES ANY VALIDITY OR CREDIBILITY THAT
10:02:23 THEY MAY HAVE, AND ITS CONSISTENCY IS SKEWED BY THE BACK THE
10:02:29 BLUE, AND WHEN THE GOOD APPLES ARE THE ONES WHO CONTINUES TO
10:02:34 WATCH THE BAD APPLES DO BAD THINGS AND DON'T HOLD THEM
10:02:38 ACCOUNTABLE.
10:02:39 SO AND THEY DON'T HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT AND THESE
10:02:44 OFFICERS, IT'S JUST BEEN SHOWN THAT THEY HAVE TYPICALLY
10:02:48 INGRAINED BIAS.
10:02:50 IT'S JUST HOW YOU GROW UP.
10:02:51 BUT SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE PARALLEL ABOUT HOW HAVING THIS
10:02:55 INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIVE REVIEW BOARD IS LIKE HAVING A
10:03:00 STUDENT RUN A SCHOOL FOR A DAY, OR BE A PRINCIPAL.
10:03:04 BUT RIGHT NOW HAVING POLICE INVESTIGATE THE POLICE IS LIKE
10:03:07 HAVING STUDENTS GRADE ANOTHER STUDENT'S TESTS, LIKE IT'S
10:03:11 SUSCEPTIBLE AND VULNERABLE TO SO MANY -- BUT WE NEED
10:03:19 SUBPOENA POWER FOR YOU ALL TO INVESTIGATE.
10:03:23 I YIELD MY TIME.
10:03:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:25 NEXT SPEAKER, MRS. PLEASE.
10:03:27 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:03:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:03:35 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:36 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:03:36 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:03:38 MY NAME IS KD.
10:03:40 FIRST OFF I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT IMPLEMENTING THE ACLU
10:03:44 DEMANDS FOR A STRONGER AND MORE TRANSPARENT CITIZENS REVIEW
10:03:47 BOARD.
10:03:50 FIRSTLY.
10:03:50 SECONDLY, CITY COUNCIL HAS FAILED THE COMMUNITY AND HAS
10:03:54 FAILED CONTINUOUSLY TO STAND UP FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN
10:03:57 TAMPA AS WELL AS OTHER VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
10:04:00 I REJECT THE REWARDING OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
10:04:05 ANY ADDITIONAL GRANT.
10:04:06 I URGE YOU TO DENY THE INITIAL GRANT FROM THE FDLP FOR
10:04:12 OVERTIME PURPOSES AND SPEED MONITORING.
10:04:14 THE PEOPLE NEED FUNDS FOR RESOURCES, NOT SPEED TRAPS.
10:04:18 DENY THE ADDITIONAL GRANTS FROM FDLE.
10:04:21 DO NOT SUPPORT THE GRANT FROM FEMA.
10:04:24 WE DON'T NEED X-RAY VISION GENERATOR.
10:04:26 THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT NEED X-RAY VISION FOR OPPRESSION
10:04:30 AND MARGINALIZATION THAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR CITY.
10:04:34 DENY THE GRANT FROM TPD FOR THE URBAN AREAS INITIATIVE.
10:04:38 THIS HOMELAND SECURELY GRANT WILL GIVE TPD ACCESS TO
10:04:42 SOFTWARE UPGRADES WHICH ARE NOT NECESSARY.
10:04:44 AGAIN, I FIRMLY CALL YOU TO REJECT ALL OF THESE GRANTS.
10:04:48 AS STATED BEFORE, THE USE OF FORCE HAS INCREASED 24% SINCE
10:04:52 DUGAN HAS BEEN CHIEF, AND THAT'S ONLY ADDING TOTAL DISTRESS.
10:04:58 THE COMMUNITY HAS CALLED FOR RESOURCES AND ACCESSIBLE
10:05:00 HOUSING, UNIVERSAL CHILD CARE, AT TAMPA JOBS PROGRAM AND
10:05:04 ALTERNATIVE RESPONDERS TO DO NOT PARTNER WITH OAR CORRESPOND
10:05:08 WITH THE POLICE, AGAIN WHO DO NOT WORK WITH, PARTNER WITH,
10:05:10 OR CO-RESPOND WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, GIVING OPTIONS
10:05:15 SUCH AS CAHOOTS.
10:05:18 THE NEED IS VERY VISIBLE TO US BECAUSE WE ARE HERE IN THE
10:05:20 COMMUNITY.
10:05:20 IF YOU ARE HERE IN THESE COMMUNITIES AS YOU SAY YOU ARE, YOU
10:05:23 UNDERSTAND THAT THESE NEEDS AND THE REQUESTS FALL ON DEAF
10:05:27 EARS.
10:05:27 YOU SERVE US NOT THE PEOPLE THAT LINE YOUR POCKETS.
10:05:31 THESE GRANTS SERVE NOT ONLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHICH HAS
10:05:35 BEEN INCREASED.
10:05:36 A BUDGET IS A DOCUMENT THAT OUTLINES THE NEEDS THAT YOU SAY
10:05:39 IS NECESSARY.
10:05:40 SO BEFORE YOU APPROVE ANY MORE OF THESE GRANTS, PLEASE ASK
10:05:46 YOURSELF, DOES THIS BUDGET TRULY ALIGN WITH THOSE YOU SERVE
10:05:50 AND DOES IT ALIGN EQUITABLY?
10:05:52 THANK YOU.
10:05:53 I YIELD MY TIME.
10:05:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:55 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:05:56 >> HELLO.
10:06:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:06:14 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:06:15 >> MY NAME IS RAMOS.
10:06:17 I'M WITH THE TAMPA BAY HOUSING JUSTICE COMMITTEE, A GROUP OF
10:06:20 OVER 150 DEDICATED TO GETTING A ROOF OVER EVERY HEAD.
10:06:27 I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE PLEASE ASK THAT EVERYONE KEEP
10:06:31 THEIR MASKS ON.
10:06:32 I TRIED COVID ONCE AND I CAN'T AFFORD TO GET IT AGAIN.
10:06:44 >> I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE THAT THE 13th
10:06:48 AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION ABOLISHED
10:06:52 SLAVERY AND INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE EXCEPT AS PUNISHMENT FOR A
10:06:56 CRIME.
10:06:59 BEHAVIOR THAT IS CRIMINALIZED.
10:07:01 SLAVERY IS STILL ALLOWED AND IS ONLY ADDED RAZOR WIRE TO ITS
10:07:06 PLANTATIONS AND BETTER TRAINED TO THOSE WHO ENFORCE ITSELF.
10:07:08 WE NEED GRANTS FOR HOUSING, HEALTH CARE, PUBLIC TRANSIT,
10:07:13 CHILD CARE, EDUCATION, AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY
10:07:17 REDUCE CRIMINALIZE BEHAVIOR, NOT SLAVERY.
10:07:22 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS -- WHEN SHE HAS BEEN PULLED
10:07:26 OVER AT GUNPOINT, WHICH IS LEGAL FOR HER TO DO.
10:07:30 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HARASSES AND ENFORCES BOGUS
10:07:36 CHARGES ON ACTIVISTS PROTESTING FOR BLACK LIVES AND
10:07:38 ASSERTING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
10:07:40 THE USE OF FORCE AGAINST CIVILIANS UNDER CHIEF DUGAN HAS
10:07:44 INCREASED BY 25%, AND THAT CAN'T EVEN QUALIFY THE AMOUNT OF
10:07:50 TRAUMA IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE AMOUNT OF MENTAL HEALTH
10:07:53 CARE THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED TO POSSIBLY EVEN START TO
10:07:55 UNDO THAT.
10:07:58 AND THAT'S THE WORLD THAT WE REALLY WANT TO LIVE IN, IN
10:08:01 2020, A WORLD WHEREBY -- OFFICERS MONEY AND RIGHTS THAT WE
10:08:08 DO NOT GIVE TO HUNGRY AND HOMELESS PEOPLE, A WORLD WHERE WE
10:08:13 DEFEND MURDER AND TERROR JUST BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL AND
10:08:16 ACCEPTED.
10:08:17 AND THAT'S WHAT FREEDOM LOOKS LIKE TO YOU ALL.
10:08:20 WE NEED COUNSELORS, NOT COPS.
10:08:25 WE NEED COUNSELORS WITH COPS.
10:08:28 THESE SOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN STUDIED AND COST LESS THAN SLAVERY
10:08:34 ANYHOW.
10:08:35 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF HUMAN ARTS WHICH PROVIDES TRAINING
10:08:37 AND RESOURCES FOR SHIFTING POLICY AND PRACTICE AND MENTAL
10:08:41 HEALTH CARE AND GATHER EXPERTS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHO
10:08:44 SHARE STRATEGIES AND SUCCESSES AROUND ELIMINATING LAW
10:08:47 ENFORCEMENT AND CRISIS CARE.
10:08:51 CONTACT OAKLAND, A MOBILE HEALTH CARE THAT PROVIDES
10:08:57 RESOURCES AND PUTS CALLERS NEEDS FIRST, A PROGRAM LIKE HERE
10:09:01 FOOD NOT BOMBS THAT IS BASED ON A CULTURE OF SOLIDARITY AND
10:09:05 MUTUAL AID THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
10:09:08 BECAUSE WE CAN'T DEPEND ON POLICE, WE CANNOT DEPEND ON -- TO
10:09:13 OUR FREEDOM.
10:09:14 WE CAN DO BETTER AND WE HAVE.
10:09:16 WE THE PEOPLE WILL END HUNGER AND POST WITHOUT YOU.
10:09:21 PLEASE PROVE US WRONG AND JOIN US WITH CITY FUNDS THAT YOU
10:09:25 HAVE NONCONSENSUALLY TAKEN.
10:09:28 BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF WESCOTT, ARTHUR GREEN, JR., AND MANY
10:09:34 OTHERS IS ALREADY ON YOUR HANDS.
10:09:36 HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO BE MURDERED OR MAIMED OR TASED?
10:09:42 TAKE OUR SAFETY SERIOUSLY.
10:09:44 PLEASE DO BECAUSE MY LIFE ACTUALLY DEPENDS ON IT.
10:09:46 I HAVE ALREADY SURVIVED COVID BUT I PROBABLY WON'T SURVIVE
10:09:49 RACISM SO PLEASE, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST
10:09:53 AFFECTED.
10:09:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:55 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:09:56 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:10:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, YOU CAN.
10:10:10 >> MY NAME IS KENDELL MYER.
10:10:13 I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST ANY ADDITIONAL GRANT MONEY
10:10:17 GOING TO POLICE FORCES AS WELL AS SUPPORTING THE ADDITIONAL
10:10:24 POWERS OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
10:10:27 AS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND ADDITIONALLY TAXPAYERS
10:10:31 THAT FUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NEED TO SERVE THE ULTIMATE
10:10:37 FREEDOM TO INVESTIGATE AND DETERMINE WHAT POWERS THOSE
10:10:40 PEOPLE HAVE.
10:10:43 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SHOWN CONTINUANCE VIOLENCE
10:10:47 AGAINST BLACKS, BROWN, INDIGENOUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:10:51 WE CANNOT ALLOW IT TO CONTINUE.
10:10:53 RECENTLY, THE UNJUST MURDER OF DOMINIQUE MULTIPLY WHO SHOULD
10:11:00 HAVE SEEN HIS DAY IN COURT.
10:11:02 ADDITIONALLY, THE CONTINUED HARASSMENT AND DOXXING OF THOSE
10:11:07 WHO SPOKE OUT AND PROTESTED IN SUPPORT OF BLACK LIVES.
10:11:12 AND THE DOXXING OF AN INDIVIDUAL, THE BLACK WOMAN WHO WAS
10:11:17 STOPPED AND USED HER CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO RECORD THE
10:11:22 INTERACTION WITH THE TAMPA POLICE.
10:11:26 ADDITIONALLY, THE USE OF FORCE AS MANY HAVE SAID HAS
10:11:30 INCREASED AGAINST CITIZENS AND MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:11:34 THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS MONEY TO GO TOWARDS SLAVE
10:11:42 CATCHERS WHEN WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC.
10:11:44 WE DESERVE FOOD.
10:11:45 WE DESERVE HOUSING.
10:11:46 WE DESERVE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
10:11:50 THOSE WHO ARE HOUSED IN OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO BE
10:11:53 HARASSED AND IT MUST STOP.
10:11:55 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:11:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:57 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:12:07 YOU CAN USE THE OTHER PODIUM.
10:12:08 >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
10:12:10 THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
10:12:12 MY NAME IS CHRISTINE CRAM.
10:12:15 I RAN FOR CONGRESS IN THE 14th DISTRICT AND I APPRECIATE
10:12:19 YOU BEING HERE AND THAT WE HAVE A BOARD TO REVIEW.
10:12:22 I SUPPORT OUR POLICE.
10:12:24 OBVIOUSLY I BACK THE BLUE.
10:12:26 MY SON IS A POLICE OFFICER.
10:12:28 AND I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT HE DOES NOT WAKE UP
10:12:34 EVERY MORNING WANTING TO GO DOWN AND KILL SOMEONE OR TO
10:12:37 ARREST PEOPLE.
10:12:38 HE WAKES UP EVERY MORNING WANTING TO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR
10:12:42 COMMUNITY.
10:12:43 EVERY COMMUNITY MUST HAVE LAW AND ORDER, JUST LIKE WE HAVE
10:12:48 LAW AND ORDER IN OUR HOMES.
10:12:50 WE WANT TO KEEP THINGS AND KEEP THE PEACE IN OUR HOUSEHOLD.
10:12:53 WE WANT TO KEEP THE PEACE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:12:56 SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPORT OUR POLICE, NOT ONLY
10:12:59 WITH MORE FUNDING BUT WITH BETTER TRAINING, AND IF THERE ARE
10:13:04 PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY DO NOT LIKE THE POLICE, HAVE THEM
10:13:07 JOIN THEM.
10:13:08 I LIKE OUR YMCA PROGRAM THAT BRINGS POLICE OFFICERS INTO THE
10:13:13 COMMUNITY TO MEET THE CHILDREN, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IT
10:13:16 STARTS WITH RESPECT.
10:13:18 WE NEED TO RESPECT OUR ELDERS.
10:13:19 WE NEED TO RESPECT OUR COMMUNITY.
10:13:21 AND WE NEED TO RESPECT OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
10:13:24 THEY WAKE UP EVERY MORNING JUST LIKE WE DO, GET UP, GET
10:13:29 DRESSED, PUT ON THEIR UNIFORM TO GO OUT AND SERVE AND
10:13:32 PROTECT AND KEEP THE PEACE.
10:13:35 THEY ARE NOT OUT THERE TO DISRUPT THE PEACE.
10:13:37 THEY ARE NOT OUT THERE TO KILL PEOPLE.
10:13:40 THEY ARE OUT THERE TO SERVE LAW AND ABIDING CITIZENS.
10:13:45 IT'S THOSE CITIZENS THAT DON'T WANT TO LIVE BY THE LAW THAT
10:13:50 GO OUT AND BREAK THE LAW, THAT THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND GO
10:13:53 AFTER.
10:13:54 SO ISN'T ABOUT POVERTY.
10:13:56 THIS ISN'T ABOUT RACE.
10:13:58 THIS IS ABOUT CRIMINALS.
10:14:00 AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THERE TO PROTECT US FROM
10:14:04 CRIMINALS.
10:14:05 SO I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU ARE MAKING YOUR DECISION, YOU THINK
10:14:08 ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN IN THE
10:14:11 COMMUNITY, AND WE NEED TO TEACH THOSE CHILDREN TO HAVE
10:14:15 RESPECT FOR LAW AND ORDER.
10:14:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:19 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:14:20 >> MY NAME IS GEORGE RENO AND I WAS JUST INFORMED ABOUT THIS
10:14:31 MEETING ABOUT 10:00 LAST NIGHT.
10:14:34 BEEN A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY MY WHOLE LIFE.
10:14:36 I KNOW THE SYSTEM FROM THE INSIDE AND THE OUTSIDE.
10:14:39 AND I STAND FIRMLY AGAINST REDUCING FUNDING FOR OUR POLICE
10:14:45 DEPARTMENT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.
10:14:47 THE GRANTS ARE NECESSARY.
10:14:49 THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE STREETS IS REFLECTED
10:14:53 CLEARLY AS THE GENTS WHO SPOKE EARLIER, IT'S NOT A COLOR
10:14:55 ISSUE.
10:14:56 I USED TO HAVE THE SAME ATTITUDE AND I WAS TREATED THE SAME
10:14:59 WAY AS ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE BEING TREATED.
10:15:01 WHENEVER WE GO OUT IN THE STREETS AND WE ACTS LIKE WE HATE
10:15:03 THE POLICE AND WE ACT LIKE THEY ARE OUR ENEMIES, WE GET
10:15:07 TREATED ACCORDINGLY.
10:15:07 THEY ARE HUMAN.
10:15:08 THEY ARE NOT ROBOTS.
10:15:09 SO EVERYBODY, WHENEVER I -- ASK THE PERSON STANDING IN FRONT
10:15:16 OF MY FACE, I AM GOING TO GET TREATED ACCORDINGLY BECAUSE I
10:15:18 AM INTERACTING WITH A HUMAN, NOT A MACHINE.
10:15:20 AND THEN WHEN HE GOES AND HE TEACHES THE YOUNG LITTLE KIDS
10:15:23 THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TO DO THE SAME
10:15:25 THING, IT JUST HAPPENS OVER AND OVER.
10:15:28 I AM FIRMLY AGAINST THE DESIRE THAT THIS DESTROYS OUR
10:15:32 COUNTRY WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE SITTING HERE FIGHTING BECAUSE
10:15:35 THEY WANT EQUAL RIGHTS, YET THEY ARE FIGHTING IN GROUPS, THE
10:15:40 NUCLEAR FAMILY, THEY WANT TO REMOVE MEN FROM THE HOUSEHOLD,
10:15:43 SO THEREFORE THE CHILD HAS A SIX TIME MORE LIKELY CHANCE OF
10:15:45 GROWING UP IN POVERTY, TEN TIMES MORE LIKELY CHANCE BEING
10:15:48 INCARCERATED.
10:15:50 YOU ARE BEING COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
10:15:52 THESE ARE -- YOU ARE NOT DOING THE RIGHT WAY BEING MISLED BY
10:15:57 THE MEDIA THAT YOU LISTEN TO.
10:15:59 WE ARE IN A FIGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY, AND THIS IS DEFUNDING THE
10:16:02 POLICE IS THE LAST THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
10:16:07 WE DO NOT NEED TOO TAKE FUNDING FROM THE POLICE.
10:16:09 TRAINING NEEDS TO BE -- MORE TRAINING NEEDS TO BE ENACTED.
10:16:19 OUR COUNTRY IS SO UPSIDE DOWN RIGHT NOW.
10:16:22 PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SIDES THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR.
10:16:24 THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR THE SIDE THAT ARE WORKING FOR THEIR
10:16:27 DESTRUCTION.
10:16:28 IF ANY OF THESE PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER THAN ALL THESE
10:16:32 CITIES, CHICAGO, PHILADELPHIA, ALL THESE PLACES THAT HAVE
10:16:34 BEEN RUN BY THESE SIDES FOR ALL THIS TIME, WOULD YOU SEE IT
10:16:38 A LITTLE BIT.
10:16:39 THAT'S NOT RACIST.
10:16:42 KEEPING PEOPLE INTO A STATE OF POVERTY WHERE THEY CAN STREAM
10:16:45 THESE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE ARE RACIST.
10:16:47 EVERYBODY WANTS EQUALITY.
10:16:49 EVERYBODY WANTS EQUALITY.
10:16:50 WE DO.
10:16:51 IF I ACTED LIKE I HATED THE POLICE GET WHERE I ENDED UP.
10:16:57 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, POINTS OF ORDER. IF WE COULD ASK
10:16:59 THE SPEAKER TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.
10:17:00 >> I STAND FIRMLY AGAINST DESTROYING OUR SYSTEM IS NOT
10:17:12 SYSTEMATICALLY RACIST.
10:17:14 IT'S NOT -- THE POLICE ARE NOT -- EVERY TIME THAT I WENT TO
10:17:18 JAIL, MY WRISTBAND HAD A W ON IT FOR WHITE.
10:17:21 AND I GOT THE SAME TREATMENT WHENEVER I ACTED LIKE I HATED
10:17:25 THE POLICE.
10:17:26 THANK YOU, GUYS.
10:17:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:27 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:17:28 >> HELLO.
10:17:40 MY NAME IS AUDRA AND I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT --
10:17:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOLD ON.
10:17:48 YOUR MICROPHONE.
10:17:49 >> IS THAT BETTER? MY NAME IS AUDRA AND I AM HERE TO TALK
10:17:53 ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE, AND THEN
10:17:55 CREATING THIS, GIVING MORE POWER TO AN OVERSIGHT BOARD.
10:18:00 THAT'S LIKE CREATING YOUR OWN BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT YOU
10:18:02 GET TO WIELD AS YOU WILL.
10:18:04 THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WRONG, OKAY?
10:18:07 SINCE WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BROWN AND INDIGENOUS
10:18:11 PEOPLE -- I AM ONE OF THEM -- AND I RUN BACK THE BLUE
10:18:16 FLORIDA.
10:18:16 YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE.
10:18:17 80% OF BACK THE BLUE AND ITS MANAGERS ARE BROWN AND LATINO.
10:18:22 OKAY?
10:18:23 SO TO SAY THAT COPS ARE RACIST AND PEOPLE SUPPORTING COPS
10:18:26 ARE RACIST IS 100% INACCURATE.
10:18:29 OKAY.
10:18:30 WE ALL KNOW THAT CHIEF DUGAN IS DOING A GREAT JOB.
10:18:33 ALL RIGHT.
10:18:33 WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE ANYBODY SAYING ANYTHING
10:18:36 DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE IT'S A LIE.
10:18:37 IT'S NOT AN OPINION, IT'S A LIE, CAN BE PROVEN WRONG.
10:18:41 CHIEF DUGAN HAS STOOD IN THE GULF BETWEEN POLITICS AND CRIME
10:18:47 AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE THE SAME THING.
10:18:50 YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET TO JUST SAY YOU ARE NOT A CRIMINAL
10:18:52 BECAUSE YOU ARE SITTING ON THAT SIDE OF THE CASE.
10:18:59 ANYTHING THAT ATTACKS OUR POLICE IS ACTIVELY ATTACKING OUR
10:19:02 LAWS AND SECURITY SO YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY ATTACKING THE
10:19:04 COPIES.
10:19:05 YOU ARE ATTACKING YOUR OWN SAFETY.
10:19:07 ALL LAWS WERE WRITTEN FOR THE JUST AND THE UNJUST, AND THE
10:19:11 ACCUSED.
10:19:12 ALL RIGHT.
10:19:13 YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THAT.
10:19:14 AND THEN I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD ALSO KNOW THE TALK ON THE
10:19:18 STREET WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:19:19 AND I AM GOING TO BE A LITTLE SILLY SINCE THIS WHOLLY
10:19:22 MEETING IS SILLY ANYWAY.
10:19:24 BUT LET'S BE HONEST.
10:19:25 WHY WOULD A COUNCIL PERSON BE PUSHING TO DEFUND THE POLICE
10:19:30 OR WHY WOULD THEY BE PUSHING TO TAKE FUNDING A WAY FROM THEM
10:19:32 OR TO GIVE AN EXTRA BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT?
10:19:36 WHY WOULD THEY BE DOING THAT?
10:19:37 MAYBE COPS MADE THEM CRY AT SOME POINT AND MADE THEM FEEL
10:19:42 LITTLE, AND THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.
10:19:44 SO THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THEIR LITTLE PEN, CLICK, CLICK,
10:19:48 CLICK, AND WRITE A NEW LAW.
10:19:49 OH, WE WANT AN OVERSIGHT BOARD THAT HAS POWER TO JUMP OVER
10:19:52 THE CHIEF'S HEAD BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LITTLE A COP MADE ME
10:19:56 CRY.
10:19:57 NUMBER TWO, PERSONAL VENDETTA, RIGHT?
10:20:01 THE POLITICAL AGENDA.
10:20:02 I HAVE FRIENDS I OWE BECAUSE I AM IN A POSITION WHERE I AM
10:20:04 AT.
10:20:05 I AM GOING TO PAT THEIR BACK.
10:20:08 THEY PAT MINE.
10:20:08 WE ARE GOING TO CREATE AN EXTRA BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT, RIGHT?
10:20:11 SOUNDS GOOD.
10:20:15 YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SYMBOLIZE AND THEY ARE JUST JEALOUS,
10:20:18 RIGHT?
10:20:19 WE CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE, OR WE CAN JUST REALIZE WHAT YOU
10:20:22 ARE DOING IS BAD.
10:20:23 YOU ARE PUSHING FOR AN ARM OF GOVERNMENT THAT'S NOT MEANT TO
10:20:28 BE THERE.
10:20:29 ALL RIGHT?
10:20:30 ALL RIGHT, I'M DONE.
10:20:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:32 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:20:32 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:20:42 MY NAME IS DANA FORTSON AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU SOME
10:20:47 VERY SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
10:20:50 HAVE YOU EVER WOKEN UP AT 7 A.M. IN THE MORNING TO SEE A
10:20:55 PROSTITUTE WALKING IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, BEING STUFFED BY
10:21:00 A JOHN, AND YOUR DAUGHTER ASKING, WHY IS SHE DRESSED LIKE
10:21:05 THAT AT 7 A.M. IN THE MORNING?
10:21:09 HAVE YOU EVER SAT ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S FRONT PORCH AND WATCHED
10:21:13 A DRUG DEAL GO DOWN AT THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET?
10:21:19 HAVE ANY OF YOU HAD THAT HAPPEN?
10:21:21 HAVE YOU EVER WALKED DO I KNOW AN ALLEYWAY WITH YOU'RE DOG
10:21:26 AND SEEN A PROSTITUTE GIVING A MAN, SHALL WE SAY, COMFORT?
10:21:35 HAVE ANY OF YOU?
10:21:38 I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 18 YEARS IN NORTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
10:21:40 AND I HAVE SEEN IT ALL.
10:21:43 DO NOT DEFUND THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HANDLE WHAT'S
10:21:46 GOING ON IN THE FIRST PLACE, NOW, CAN THEY?
10:21:50 AND UNTIL YOU LIVE WHERE I LIVE AND YOU PAY THE TAXES THAT I
10:21:53 PAY, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEFUND SOMEBODY WHO -- [NO
10:22:02 ENCODER] [NO ENCODER]
10:22:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS THAT ARE
10:22:27 ONLINE, WE HAVE 23.
10:22:30 AND THAT IS ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO.
10:22:35 WE HAVE A RECORDED MESSAGES CALCULATING THREE MINUTES
10:22:39 APIECE, THAT WILL PUT US TO 12:00.
10:22:42 I WAS GOING TO ANNOUNCE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING THAT
10:22:44 WE TAKE A LUNCH BREAK AT 12 BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY LONG
10:22:47 AGENDA.
10:22:47 WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE ALL DAY ANYWAY.
10:22:49 ANY OBJECTION FOR A 12:00 LUNCH BREAK?
10:22:53 NO?
10:22:54 HEARING NONE, SO AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL GO THERE.
10:22:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
10:23:00 BEGIN, CAROLINE BENNETT IS THE FIRST SPEAKER.
10:23:03 >> GOOD MORNING, CAROLINE BENNETT, WILL NOT BE SPEAKING.
10:23:11 THE FIRST SPEAKER WE HAVE ON THE LIST IS GOING TO BE
10:23:15 ROBACHU.
10:23:17 IF YOU ARE THERE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE
10:23:19 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:23:20 >> HI.
10:23:27 CAN COUNCIL HEAR ME?
10:23:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:23:29 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:23:30 >> MY NAME IS ROBUCHAL.
10:23:36 OUR COUNTRY'S FOUNDERS COULD NOT BE FREE OR DETERMINE THE
10:23:40 COURSE OF THEIR OWN LIVES IF THEY LIVED UNDER THE THREAT OF
10:23:45 WINDS OF -- TO PROTECT BALANCES NOR FOR THE PEOPLE TO
10:23:48 CUSTOMER SIZE DEVIL DETERMINATION.
10:23:51 TODAY IN TAMPA THERE IS A SMALL MINORITY GROUP WHICH, AND
10:23:57 THAT GROUP IS THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:23:58 THEREFORE I AM ASKING TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO RESTORE THE
10:24:01 BALANCE BETWEEN THE CITIZENS AND THE POLICE BY EMPOWERING
10:24:02 THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD TO CONDUCT MEANINGFUL AND CREDIBLE
10:24:07 INVESTIGATIONS OF POLICE MISCONDUCT AND BE WITNESSES FOR
10:24:11 DOCUMENTS.
10:24:13 THE REVIEW BOARD JUST HAVE --
10:24:18 THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD MUST CONTROL ITS OWN AGENDA AND
10:24:21 DECIDE FOR ITSELF WHAT IT BELIEVES SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED
10:24:23 AND THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD APPOINT ALL MEMBERS TO THE
10:24:26 CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.
10:24:27 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:24:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:30 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:24:30 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE SHERRI ACKER.
10:24:35 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:24:41 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:24:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THAT ONE NOT YET.
10:24:56 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:24:56 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE DAVID
10:25:01 ROUNDTREE.
10:25:03 MR. ROUNDTREE, IF YOU ARE THERE YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO
10:25:06 SPEAK.
10:25:07 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:25:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROUNDTREE, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE,
10:25:28 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:25:29 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:25:30 >> OKAY, THERE WE GO.
10:25:33 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:25:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:25:34 GO AHEAD.
10:25:35 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:25:37 MY NAME IS DAVID ROUNDTREE, THE OWNER OF WEST MILLS LLC,
10:25:42 TAMPA, AND I HAVE BEEN INVITED TO SPEAK HERE THROUGH JAMES
10:25:47 SHAW, JR., THE ACLU ON THIS ISSUE OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW
10:25:51 BOARD.
10:25:52 AND I HAD A COUSIN MR. ARLIE WHO WAS ON THE FIRST CITIZENS
10:25:57 REVIEW BOARD, WHICH WAS A VERY DIVERSE BOARD.
10:26:01 WHEN I WENT TO READ BACK AS THE, I GUESS, REQUIREMENTS TO BE
10:26:05 ON THE BOARD, IT SEEMS A LITTLE WEIRD TO ME HOW YOU WOULD
10:26:09 REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO PARTICIPATE FOR FOUR YEARS ON A
10:26:14 VOLUNTARY BASIS AND THINK THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY GET SOME
10:26:20 REAL PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A COMPENSATION
10:26:25 SOCIETY, SO IF YOU ARE REQUIRING SOMEBODY TO PROVIDE SERIOUS
10:26:29 OVERSIGHT, THEY NEED TO BE COMPENSATED.
10:26:31 AND ON TONE OF THAT, OF THE ELEVEN MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT,
10:26:37 ON THE BOARD, TO DISCRIMINATING FACTOR IS FELONS CAN'T BE ON
10:26:43 THE BOARD, AND AS A FELON, IF I GOT PAPER IT WORK IN THE
10:26:48 MAIL THAT SAYS I NEED TO REPORT FOR JURY DUTY AND GET PAID
10:26:51 FOR JURY DUTY, I THINK THIS AS A BOARD, THAT HAS TO DO WITH
10:26:57 OUR CITIZENS AND REVIEWING OUR POLICE, THAT NEEDS TO BE
10:27:01 REFLECTED UPON THE ACTUAL CITIZENS, EVEN RETURNING CITIZENS
10:27:03 LIKE MYSELF, IF I SO CHOOSE TO VOLUNTEER OR BE COMPENSATED
10:27:08 TO PARTICIPATE IN SUCH A BOARD.
10:27:10 THAT NEEDS TO BE REFLECTED.
10:27:12 AND TO HAVE BOARD MEMBERS SELECTED BY CITY COUNCIL, OR BY
10:27:18 THE MAYOR THEMSELVES, WHICH IS HOW THE FIRST BOARD WENT
10:27:24 DOWN, THAT MAKES NO SENSE.
10:27:27 SO IF YOU WANT MORE PARTICIPATION, YOU ALL NEED TO CHANGE
10:27:30 THOSE REGULATIONS, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN I LOOKED
10:27:34 AT THOSE 17 ON THE WEBSITE, I DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT
10:27:42 REFLECTED IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY BODY CAMS.
10:27:44 I DON'T SEE OFFICER STEELE RIDING AROUND OR APPROACHING
10:27:48 PEOPLE WITH BODY CAMS, AND DEFINITELY WHEN THESE OFFICERS
10:27:51 ARE APPROACHING PEOPLE WITH THIS COVID SITUATION GOING ON,
10:27:54 THEY DON'T HAVE MASKS ON.
10:27:56 THEY ARE DISRESPECTING THEIR 6-FOOT SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND
10:28:00 THEY ARE APPROACHING PEOPLE FIVE AND SIX, ONE INDIVIDUAL
10:28:07 AROUND TOWN AND THEY CUTTING OFF THEIR AIRSPACE AND THEY ARE
10:28:11 NOT FOLLOWING ANY KIND OF PROTOCOL.
10:28:15 SO IT'S A LOT MORE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE GOING ON RIGHT NOW
10:28:18 AND THEY NEED TO BE PAID ATTENTION TO.
10:28:21 AND WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DEFUNDING.
10:28:24 EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT DEFUNDING.
10:28:26 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DEFUNDING.
10:28:28 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REFORM. THIS WHOLE MEETING IS ABOUT
10:28:31 REFORM.
10:28:31 AND YOU NEED FUNDS TO REFORM.
10:28:35 SO START COMING UP -- STOP COMING UP WITH THAN DEFUNDING.
10:28:39 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REFORM.
10:28:43 THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
10:28:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:28:45 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:28:45 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE DAVID
10:28:52 SIMENOFF.
10:28:57 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:28:58 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:29:01 >> ALL RIGHT.
10:29:01 MY NAME IS DAVE SIMENOFF.
10:29:06 AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HAD VERY FEW PERSONAL
10:29:09 INTERACTION WAS THE POLICE BUT THEY HAVE ALL BEEN GREAT,
10:29:12 THEY HAVE BEEN PROFESSIONAL.
10:29:13 AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THE WAY IT'S SET UP IS THAT WE ARE
10:29:19 SAYING THE ONLY WAY THAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN DO
10:29:22 ITS JOB WELL IS IF ITS IMMUNE FROM ANY CREDIBLE
10:29:27 RESPONSIBILITY FOR ACTIONS.
10:29:28 THAT IS ANTITHETICAL TO THE IDEA OF ANY KIND OF PUBLIC
10:29:32 SERVICE.
10:29:33 LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE THAT HAS.
10:29:36 IF A PROFESSIONAL IS UNWILLING TO STAND BY THEIR ACTION,
10:29:41 THAT DOESN'T COME FROM THE POINT OF CONFIDENCE.
10:29:46 THAT MEANS THEY ARE SCARED, INSECURE.
10:29:48 AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT
10:29:51 PROFESSIONALS ARE NONE OF THOSE THINGS.
10:29:53 THE POLICE SHOULD EMBRACE THIS.
10:29:56 NO ONE SHOULD BE FIGHTING AGAINST IT.
10:29:59 WHEN THEY AGREED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DO, THEY
10:30:02 ARE JUST CONFIRMING THEIR COMMITMENT TO BEING CREDIBLE, TO
10:30:06 BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT BEING ABOVE THE
10:30:09 COMMUNITY AND FINANCING IT THEMSELVES.
10:30:16 THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS HAD PROPOSAL THAT REFLECTS THE
10:30:20 EFFECTIVENESS OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:30:22 THERE IS NOTICING IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT WOULD MAKE IT HARDER
10:30:24 FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.
10:30:27 THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT WILL INCREASE CRIME.
10:30:30 THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT WILL MAKE TAMPA A
10:30:34 LESS SAFE PLACE TO BE.
10:30:36 AND THE FEAR MONGERING OUT THERE, YOU SHOULD IGNORE IT.
10:30:40 THE FACT IS THAT ON THIS ENTIRE CALL, AND FOR THE REST OF
10:30:44 THIS CALL, YOU WILL HEAR NOT ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE FACT BASED
10:30:49 ARGUMENT AGAINST THE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE REAL TRUE
10:30:52 OVERSIGHT FROM MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:30:56 IN CONCLUSION, I HOPE THIS BOARD MAKES THE RIGHT DECISION,
10:31:00 THE LOGICAL DECISION, THE FAIR DECISION, AND THE DECISION TO
10:31:03 GIVE THE COMMUNITY TRUE OVERSIGHT OVER WHAT ITS PUBLIC
10:31:08 SERVANTS ARE DOING.
10:31:09 THANK YOU.
10:31:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:31:10 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:31:10 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE GRANT
10:31:17 LOVERING.
10:31:18 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
10:31:21 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:31:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, GO AHEAD.
10:31:37 GRANT LOVERING.
10:31:43 >>THE CLERK: MOVING ALONG, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE
10:31:48 GRETCHEN COCHRAN.
10:31:49 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:31:51 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:54 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:31:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:31:56 GO AHEAD.
10:31:56 >> I AM GRETCHEN COCHRAN, A NATIVE FLORIDIAN OF TAMPA.
10:32:02 I'M AN ATTORNEY AND A LOCAL FORENSIC SCIENTIST.
10:32:06 I CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE BOARD OF THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR
10:32:08 MENTAL ILLNESS FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CHAPTER, AND I AM
10:32:12 ALSO CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE GREATER TAMPA
10:32:16 AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION.
10:32:19 ALSO KNOWN AS THE ACLU.
10:32:22 THE ACLU IS A NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION THAT DEFENDS THE
10:32:27 CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE.
10:32:30 WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR TAMPA ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MYSELF WHO
10:32:35 HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING OUR TIME AND OUR LEGAL EXPERTISE TO
10:32:39 ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF TAMPA GOVERNMENT FOR
10:32:43 SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.
10:32:45 OUR ORGANIZATION WAS ASKED TO ASSIST IN UPDATING CIVILIAN
10:32:49 REVIEW BOARD SO THAT IT WILL BETTER REPRESENT THE NEEDS OF
10:32:53 THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND ALSO TO BRING IT UP TO DATE WITH
10:32:58 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARDS AROUND THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY.
10:33:00 THE ACLU IS NOT IN FAVOR NOR AGAINST ANYONE.
10:33:05 WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT THE HIGHEST LAW OF OUR COUNTRY AND
10:33:08 OUR STATE.
10:33:11 FLORIDA AS A STATE, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON OUR GOVERNMENT'S
10:33:15 TRANSPARENCY, WITH THE SUNSHINE STATE.
10:33:18 WE HAVE THE SUNSHINE LAW IN PLACE THAT ENABLES CITIZENS TO
10:33:21 HOLD ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS
10:33:26 FOR THEIR INACTIONS.
10:33:29 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARDS ARE NOT ACTIONS AGAINST POLICE
10:33:33 AGENCIES.
10:33:34 THEY ARE BOARDS THAT PROVIDE CITIZENS WITH THE TRANSPARENCY
10:33:37 THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM BY THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION.
10:33:40 THEY ENTHUSED SHOULD NOTE BE CONTROVERSIAL.
10:33:47 THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL NOW ARE TO ADD
10:33:51 TRANSPARENCY TO THE PROCESS.
10:33:58 DO NOT ALLOW THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD TO SUBPOENA OFFICERS
10:34:01 THAT ARE INVOLVED IN AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.
10:34:04 AND THEY DO NOT ALLOW THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD TO
10:34:09 DISCIPLINE OFFICERS.
10:34:10 SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
10:34:13 I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN FALSE STATEMENTS CENTS OUT TO BE
10:34:16 MEMBERS OF THE POLICE UNION AND ALSO ON SOME SOCIAL MEDIA
10:34:22 SITES.
10:34:25 AND THOSE STATEMENTS ARE INCORRECT.
10:34:27 THE PROPOSALS DO NOT ALLOW THE CRB TO SUBPOENA AND OFFICER
10:34:31 THAT IS BEING INVESTIGATED.
10:34:33 THEY ALSO DO NOT ALLOW THE CRB TO DISCIPLINE AN OFFICER.
10:34:38 THIS SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CITIZENS VERSUS POLICE, FOR
10:34:43 CITY COUNCIL AND CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS AGAINST POLICE.
10:34:46 AS THE PBA, POLICE UNION, HAVE SUGGESTED IN A SESSION MEDIA
10:34:51 STATEMENT AND E-MAILS.
10:34:54 YOU CAN SUPPORT POLICE AND SUPPORT THE CRB.
10:34:58 JUST AS WE SUPPORT TEACHERS AND ALSO SUPPORT SCHOOL BOARDS
10:35:00 THAT HOLD TEACHERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR WORK.
10:35:04 SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED THAT OVERSIGHT OF POLICE MAY
10:35:07 CAUSE POLICE TO STOP DOING THEIR JOBS.
10:35:11 I WANT TO KNOW YOU HOW SO.
10:35:13 ARE THERE ANY EMPLOYEES IN THIS MEETING THAT HAVE TOLD YOUR
10:35:16 BOSS THAT IF YOUR BOSS IS GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR
10:35:20 THE WORK THAT YOU DO THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
10:35:22 COMPLETE YOUR WORK?
10:35:24 THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
10:35:26 EVERY ONE IN THIS MEETING WHO HAS A JOB IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE
10:35:31 FOR DOING OUR WORK.
10:35:33 POLICE SHOULD NOT BE EXCLUDED FROM THIS.
10:35:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:37 >> AND I WANT TO ASK WHAT REASON --
10:35:40 >>> NEXT SPEAKER.
10:35:40 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JAMES SHAW.
10:35:45 MR. SHAW, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:35:48 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:35:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:35:51 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:35:53 THANK YOU.
10:35:54 JAMES SHAW, ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS WITH THE UPGRADE OF THE
10:35:59 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
10:36:00 NOBODY IS PAYING ME AND IT'S NOT MY IDEA OF FUN EITHER.
10:36:04 I'M DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO HAVE
10:36:07 MEANINGFUL OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE.
10:36:09 I CAN TELL AND HOPE THE COMMUNITY CAN TELL THAT THIS COUNCIL
10:36:11 IS LABORING IN GOOD FAITH IN WHAT SEEMS TO BE TO KEEP THE
10:36:19 COMMUNITY SAFE.
10:36:20 ONE OF THE THINGS TO BE SAFE FROM IS ABUSE OF POWER AND
10:36:23 POWER DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN ANYONE SUGGESTS IT'S SOMETHING
10:36:25 THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE KEPT SAFE FROM BUT IT IS.
10:36:28 YOU CAN'T GIVE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY HISTORICALLY
10:36:31 UNPRECEDENTED POWERS OF SURVEILLANCE AND THE POWERS TO USE
10:36:34 LEGAL FORCE WITHOUT ALSO HAVING OVERSIGHT AND
10:36:36 ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:36:37 YOU HAVE ADDRESSED THAT COMMUNITIES NEED IN GOOD FAITH BUT I
10:36:40 HAVE TO SAY THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY FRANKLY
10:36:43 HASN'T.
10:36:44 THE BODY CAMERAS, THERE HAS BEEN NO SERIOUS REFORMS,
10:36:49 ADVISORY BOARDS THAT CREATE THE APPEARANCE OF CREATING WITH
10:36:52 LOCAL ACTIVISTS BUT THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO ANY OF US.
10:36:56 THEY ARE POSING FOR PICTURES WITH US, MAYBE ASKING FOR INPUT
10:36:59 FOR A MINOR DETAIL SO THEY CAN CLAIM THEY COLLABORATED WITH
10:37:02 US ON SOME OF THESE INEFFECTIVE REFORMS BUT I WANT TO BE
10:37:06 100% CLEAR THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT YOU RECEIVED A FEW DAYS
10:37:08 AGO WAS NOT THE RESULT OF ANY COLLABORATION WITH THE LOCAL
10:37:11 ACLU CHAPTER.
10:37:13 THEY WERE HUMORED AT BEST BUT OUR CONCERNS WERE IGNORED AND
10:37:17 WHAT YOU GOT IN THE END WAS A RESULT OF LOBBYING BY THE
10:37:20 ABOUT PBA AT THE DRAFTING LEVEL.
10:37:23 AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE PBA HAS APPROACHED US NOTHING
10:37:27 SHORT OF -- ALL ANYONE IS REQUESTING FOR TAMPA TO DO IS
10:37:31 CATCH UP WITH OTHER MAJOR U.S. CITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE
10:37:34 COMMUNITY OVERSIGHTS OF POLICE THAT'S MEANINGFUL.
10:37:37 BUT THEY SENT OUT A COMMUNICATION TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP SAYING
10:37:40 THAT THEY ARE UNDER ATTACK AND THEY NEED SUPPORT OF THE
10:37:43 POLICE BY OPPOSING OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:37:47 LETTING SOMEONE OPERATE IN THE DARK IS NOT SUPPORT.
10:37:50 NO ONE ELSE MAKES THAT ARGUMENT.
10:37:52 DOCTORS DON'T SAY, WE ARE HEROES, WE SAVE LIVES, AND SHOW US
10:37:56 HOW MUCH YOU LOVE US BY NOT HAVING ANY OVERSIGHT OVER US, BY
10:37:59 HAVING NO PROCEDURES OR ACCOUNTABLE WHEN ANY OF US ENGAGE IN
10:38:04 MISCONDUCT.
10:38:04 ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
10:38:07 WE NEED TO LET THEM DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, WITH WHOMEVER
10:38:10 THEY WANT WITH NO MEANINGFUL ACCOUNTABILITY OR ELSE WE ARE
10:38:14 NOT SUPPORTING THEM.
10:38:15 COME ON, YOU ARE ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS IN GOOD FAITH LIKE
10:38:18 ADULTS, AND SO ARE WE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY AS WE ALL
10:38:21 CONTINUES WORKING ON THIS, I SURE DO HOPE THAT WE CAN DO IT
10:38:24 WITHOUT ANY MORE POLLS OR ALARMIST CALLS WITH MISGUIDED
10:38:30 SUPPORT OR RUMORS OF MAKE BELIEVE LAWS OR ANY MORE
10:38:33 OBSTACLES.
10:38:34 THIS COMMUNITY WHEN IT WANTS TO IS CAPABLE OF COMING
10:38:36 TOGETHER TO DO WHAT WAS LEFT UNDONE IN 2015 BY FIXING THE
10:38:40 ORDINANCE, AND WORKING TOGETHER IN GOOD FAITH SO WE CAN HAVE
10:38:43 TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE
10:38:46 PEOPLE THAT WE EMPLOY TO POLICE US. THIS COUNSELING HAS
10:38:50 BEEN LABORS IN GOOD FAITH TO DO THAT AND I SINCERELY HOPE
10:38:54 THAT GOING FORWARD THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITIES CAN JOIN
10:38:57 US.
10:38:58 THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
10:39:00 THANK YOU.
10:39:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:01 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:39:01 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JAMIE KLAPLE.
10:39:07 IF YOU HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE
10:39:12 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:39:13 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN.
10:39:16 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:39:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:39:19 GO AHEAD.
10:39:19 >> THANK YOU.
10:39:21 AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR FROM US.
10:39:24 AS SHE SAID MY NAME IS JAMIE KLAPLE AND I AM ONE OF THE
10:39:30 ATTORNEYS VOLUNTEERING OUR TIME TO HELP UPGRADE THE CITIZENS
10:39:33 REVIEW BOARD ORDINANCE.
10:39:34 AND THE REASON THAT WE HAVE DEVOTED SO MUCH OF OUR TIME AND
10:39:37 ENERGY TO THIS EFFORT IS BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HAS A SOCIAL
10:39:42 CONTRACT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT SAYS IN ORDER FOR THE
10:39:45 POLICE TO PROTECT US, WE GIVE THEM AUTHORITY TO USE FORCE
10:39:48 AGAINST CIVILIANS THAT CONDUCT SEARCHES AND SEIZURES OF
10:39:52 PEOPLE AND PROPERTY, AND THAT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF
10:39:55 AUTHORITY, AND WITH THAT, THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE AN
10:39:58 EXTERNAL INDEPENDENT BODY WITH AUTHORITY TO INDEPENDENTLY
10:40:02 COLLECT INFORMATION AND CONDUCT REVIEWS OF POLICE-RELATED
10:40:05 ISSUES.
10:40:07 ONE CRUCIAL TOOL FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION IS SUBPOENA
10:40:10 POWER, AND THIS HAS BEEN FRAMED AS AN ISSUE ABOUT
10:40:14 SUBPOENAING POLICE OFFICERS TO BE PROVIDE TESTIMONY.
10:40:18 BUT WE SEE IT AS FAR MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE CRB TO AUTHORIZE
10:40:23 TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS TO CIVILIANS WHO MAY HAVE RELEVANT
10:40:26 DOCUMENTS, SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE OR OTHER EVIDENCE, AND
10:40:30 NOWADAYS, WITH RING DOORBELL CAMERAS AND SURVEILLANCE
10:40:33 CAMERAS EVERYWHERE, INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN IN THE PUBLIC ARE
10:40:36 LIKELY TO BE CAUGHT ON VIDEO, AND SO IT'S THE PROFESSIONAL
10:40:39 STANDARDS BUREAU DOESN'T OBTAIN VIDEO FOOTAGE FOR WHATEVER
10:40:43 REASON, THE CRB SHOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE THEY
10:40:48 WANT TO SUBPOENA FOR THEMSELVES.
10:40:50 THINK ABOUT HOW DIFFERENT THE RODNEY KING CASE WOULD HAVE
10:40:53 BEEN WITHOUT VIDEO EVIDENCE.
10:40:54 AND WE KNOW THAT THE POLICE REVIEW BOARDS IN KEY WEST, MIAMI
10:40:58 AND MOST RECENTLY BROWARD COUNTY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
10:41:02 SUBPOENA.
10:41:02 SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF LAW.
10:41:04 IT'S A QUESTION OF POLICY.
10:41:06 AND GIVING THE CRB THE TOOL THAT IT NEEDS TO INDEPENDENTLY
10:41:09 COLLECT INFORMATION GOOD POLICY THAT WILL ENHANCE THE CRB
10:41:15 CREDIBILITY.
10:41:17 THANK YOU.
10:41:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:18 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:41:18 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JESSICA
10:41:27 McCORMICK.
10:41:27 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
10:41:30 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:41:31 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:41:33 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:41:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:41:35 GO AHEAD.
10:41:36 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:41:38 MY NAME IS JESSICA McCORMICK AND I HAVE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR
10:41:42 OVER 12 YEARS NOW.
10:41:45 I LOVE THIS CITY.
10:41:47 PART OF LOVING SOMETHING IS WORKING TO CONTINUING TO BECOME
10:41:51 A VERSION OF ITSELF AS TIME PASSES.
10:41:54 ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT TAMPA NEEDS TO WORK ON IS HOW THE
10:41:56 POLICE WORK IN THE CITY.
10:42:05 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] THE LAWS OF THIS CITY, THEY NEED TO BE
10:42:09 HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD.
10:42:11 AS A TAMPAN I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING THE POLICE TO
10:42:18 INSPECT THEMSELVES.
10:42:18 THE CURRENT STATUS QUO FOR INVESTIGATORS TO HAVE OVERSIGHT
10:42:22 BY A CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD THAT CAN'T MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS
10:42:26 FOR EFFECTIVE CHANGE, AND WE NEED CHANGE.
10:42:30 I THINK THE EVENTS OF THIS PAST SUMMER DURING THE POLICE
10:42:33 GENERATED VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR CITIZENS AND THE CITY'S LACK
10:42:36 OF EFFORTS TO CURB THAT BEHAVIOR FROM OUR OWN POLICE
10:42:39 OFFICERS --
10:42:43 WHEN IT COMES TO DEESCALATION, AND THE EVENTS OF THIS SUMMER
10:42:48 PROVED IT.
10:42:49 OUR CITIZENS DO NOT FEEL SAFE IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF HOW THE
10:42:52 POLICE REGULARLY COMPORT THEMSELVES AND PROTECT THEMSELVES
10:42:55 FROM OVERSIGHT
10:42:59 I WAS GENUINELY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO -- FOR MAYOR CASTOR BUT
10:43:05 NOW I AM SIMPLY DISCOURAGED THAT SHE HAS CLOSED RANKS WITH
10:43:08 THE POLICE AND HAS REFUSED TO -- AND SHOULD WORK IN THIS
10:43:13 CLIMATE.
10:43:14 IN ORDER FOR THE CITY AND POLICE FORCE TO MOVE FORWARD THE
10:43:16 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MUST BE ABLE TO PERFORM INVESTIGATIONS
10:43:20 AND NOT SIMPLY REVIEW ALREADY CLOSED INVESTIGATIONS.
10:43:24 IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, THE CRB MUST BE ABLE TO ISSUE
10:43:28 SUBPOENAS TO WITNESS TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE.
10:43:30 THE CRB MUST HAVE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY WHO LISTENS
10:43:36 ONLY TOTAL CRB.
10:43:37 ANY OTHER CITY EMPLOYEE ATTORNEYS WILL FALL TO PRESSURE.
10:43:43 THE CRB MUST BE INDEPENDENT OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
10:43:47 THE MAYOR SHOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT HALF OR
10:43:50 NEARLY HALF OF THE MEMBERS BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR
10:43:53 HAS OVERSIGHT OF POLICE.
10:43:54 AGAIN, THE ULTIMATE GOAL HERE IS FOR THE CRB TO BE ABLE TO
10:43:59 ACT IN A TRULY INDEPENDENT ENTITY IT'S TO MAKE FAIR,
10:44:01 UNBIASED DETERMINATION.
10:44:03 LASTLY, THE CRB MUST BE ABLE TO DECIDE FOR ITSELF WHAT IT
10:44:08 SHOULD INVESTIGATE.
10:44:09 CURRENTLY TAMPA CRB INVESTIGATES ON WHAT TAMPA WANTS IT TO.
10:44:17 IT SHOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY TO HELP THE CITY'S
10:44:20 RESOURCES BECOME BETTER, MORE TRANSPARENT AND ANSWERABLE FOR
10:44:23 ANY WRONGDOING.
10:44:24 THE CURRENT MODEL PERPETUATES BAD BEHAVIOR BY VARYING WHAT
10:44:30 TPD WANTS, AND ALL THE CITIZENS THERE TO SERVE AND PROTECT.
10:44:34 IF WE ARE TO RESPECT THE POLICE THEY NEED TO RESPECT THE
10:44:36 PEOPLE FIRST.
10:44:37 THANK YOU.
10:44:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:39 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:44:39 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE GEORGIANA
10:44:45 YAMPOLSKY.
10:44:52 >> I'M WITH THE TAMPA BAY BRANCH OF THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM
10:44:56 AND LIBERATION.
10:44:58 I'M A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA, CURRENTLY RESIDE IN
10:45:04 SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:45:05 AS ANOTHER PERSON MENTIONED WHICH IS ANOTHER MULTIPLE CITY
10:45:09 COUNCIL MEETING ON THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD AND WHETHER IT
10:45:11 WILL HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS.
10:45:13 THE CRB SHOULD DEFINITELY BE AN INDEPENDENT FROM THE TPD,
10:45:18 TRANSPARENCY IS A CORNERSTONE OF DEMOCRACY AND WE ALL KNOW
10:45:21 THAT.
10:45:22 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WANT TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY
10:45:25 BUT WHERE ARE THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT PREVENT CRIME?
10:45:30 WHERE HAS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB GONE?
10:45:34 THE POLICE DO NOT INVESTIGATE CRIME.
10:45:36 THEY INVESTIGATE WITH GUNS AFTER IT ALREADY HAPPENED.
10:45:38 WHERE ARE THE SHELTERS FOR THE HOUSELESS?
10:45:41 WHERE IS PUBLIC TRANSIT?
10:45:42 WHERE IS THE CITY FUNDED FOOD PROGRAMS ESPECIALLY DURING A
10:45:45 PANDEMIC THAT THE GOVERNOR THINKS IS OVER OR NEVER EXISTED?
10:45:49 WHERE IS THE INITIATIVE FOR OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO ARE YOU?
10:45:56 RACE INTEREST PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN
10:46:00 THEM BUT POLICE ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE EVERY CITIZEN, EVEN
10:46:03 ONES THAT I MAY BE DISOBEYING THE LAW.
10:46:06 TAKING A BAG OF CHIPS SHOULD NOT BE --
10:46:11 JOSEPH DESERVES TO BE ALIVE.
10:46:14 KYLE DESERVES TO BE ALIVE.
10:46:17 I'M ALSO TALKING ON -- I'M GOING TO DEMAND THAT YOU REJECT
10:46:21 THESE GRANTS FROM THE FDOT AND FROM FEMA AND FROM HOMELAND
10:46:26 SECURITY, THAT ARE GOING TO FURTHER MILITARIZE OUR POLICE.
10:46:29 WE NEED SAFETY.
10:46:33 WE -- WE DON'T NEED POLICE.
10:46:36 THANK YOU.
10:46:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:38 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:46:38 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE MS. BENJAMIN.
10:46:46 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:46:47 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:46:48 >> HELLO.
10:46:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
10:46:53 GO AHEAD.
10:46:53 >> ALL RIGHT.
10:46:55 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:46:57 I APOLOGIZE.
10:46:58 MY DAUGHTER IS IN THE BACKGROUND.
10:47:00 SHE MIGHT INTERRUPT ME.
10:47:01 I WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON THIS ONGOING SAGA FOR THE
10:47:05 CITIZENS OF TAMPA DIVERSE COMMUNITIES TO HAVE A VOICE AND A
10:47:08 SAY IN THE WAY OUR COMMUNITIES ARE POLICED.
10:47:12 AND IT'S UNFORTUNATES THAT THE NOTION OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
10:47:19 LAW ENFORCEMENT SEEMS TO BE SO TRIGGERING FOR SO MANY IN OUR
10:47:23 COMMUNITY.
10:47:23 I WOULD LIKE TO BE TAKE A STEP BACK TO REMIND FOLKS WHY THIS
10:47:27 INITIAL PUSH FOR A REVIEW BOARD BEGAN, AND I DON'T THINK
10:47:34 THIS IS UNIQUE TO ANYONE ON COUNCIL AND I REALLY APPRECIATE
10:47:37 THE HARD WORK BEING PUT IN BY THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS
10:47:40 ORDINANCE RIGHT THIS TIME, BECAUSE IT CREATED A BOARD IN
10:47:46 2015, THAT DID NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:47:54 THAT YEAR IN 2015 WAS THE YEAR THAT THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
10:47:56 JUSTICE RELEASED A REPORT THAT FOUND THAT TAMPA POLICE
10:48:01 DEPARTMENT HAD A PATTERN OF DISCRIMINATORY BEHAVIOR WHEN IT
10:48:05 CAME TO BICYCLE STOPS, BIKING WHILE BLACK, AND THE REPORT
10:48:10 WAS BASED SOLELY ON DATA FROM A PORTION OF THAT YEAR.
10:48:14 BUT THESE POLICIES HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS PRIOR TO
10:48:17 THAT.
10:48:19 WE KNOW THAT THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, TPD WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR
10:48:25 THE DEATH OF ARTHUR GREEN JUNIOR AND JASON WESTCOTT AND
10:48:29 THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO SHOULD BE ALIVE TODAY.
10:48:32 THE NOTION THAT A DEGREE OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
10:48:38 SHOULD NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL, AS SPEAKERS BEFORE ME HAVE
10:48:41 SAID.
10:48:42 IT'S VERY TROUBLING TO THINK THAT OVERSIGHT AND THE ABILITY
10:48:46 TO HAVE A SAY IN HOW THE POLICE AND A DEGREE OF TRUST IS MET
10:48:52 WITH SUCH SCORN AND CONTROVERSY.
10:48:58 THE MAYOR'S OWN TASK FORCE INDICATED THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR
10:49:05 TRUST IN THIS CITY, WITH POLICE AT THIS TIME.
10:49:09 AND I WANTED TO MAYBE SHINE A LIGHT ON -- SOME OF YOU MAY
10:49:13 HAVE SEEN THIS POLL THAT THE PBA RELEASED RECENTLY, AND IT
10:49:18 HAS TO DO WITH THE NEED FOR THE PA TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCED
10:49:26 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ON THE BOARD, THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT
10:49:32 POLL, AFRICAN AMERICANS.
10:49:35 BUT IT WAS WORDED IN A WAY THAT IT DIDN'T STATE THE NEED FOR
10:49:40 THIS BOARD.
10:49:41 AND THE NEED FOR THIS BOARD IS TRANSPARENCY.
10:49:44 AND IT'S A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT BOARD.
10:49:53 TO HAVE FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SERVE ON THIS BOARD
10:49:56 WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF TRUST.
10:49:57 I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCIL HAS PUT INTO MAKING THIS ORDINANCE
10:50:01 RIGHT.
10:50:01 AND IT WAS CONTINUED TODAY SO WE CAN WORK ON THE ISSUES THAT
10:50:08 WE STILL HAVE DISAGREEMENT OVER, INCLUDING INVESTIGATORY
10:50:13 POWER, SETTING ITS OWN AGENDA AND THE ABILITIES TO HAVE
10:50:16 SUBPOENA POWER, AND AS SO MANY SAID PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT
10:50:20 ABOUT DISCIPLINING OFFICERS, THIS IS ABOUT CREATING A BETTER
10:50:23 RELATIONSHIP FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
10:50:25 AND SOMEBODY WHO IS A FIFTH GENERATION TAMPA NATIVE WHO IS
10:50:30 RAISING A DAUGHTER IN THIS CITY, I THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO
10:50:33 GET THIS RIGHT.
10:50:34 I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HARD WORK ON THIS.
10:50:36 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:50:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:50:38 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:50:38 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE --
10:50:47 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:50:49 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:50:53 IN MY 13 YEARS AS A CIVIL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, MEMBER OF THE
10:50:58 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ADVISORY BOARD AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS
10:51:00 HIMSELF BEEN UNLAWFULLY ARRESTED BY THE TPD FOR HAVING A BAD
10:51:05 ATTITUDE, I REALIZE THAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE JUST LIKE ANY
10:51:07 OF US.
10:51:08 THEY ARE AREN'T ROBOTS.
10:51:09 THEY ARE NORMAL PEOPLE JUST LIKE US JUST TRYING TO DO THEIR
10:51:12 JOB LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.
10:51:14 THEY HAVE GOOD DAYS AND THEY HAVE BAD DAYS.
10:51:17 AND JUST LIKE US, THEY DESERVE THE HIGHEST PRAISE AND
10:51:21 RESPECT AND ADMIRATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY FOR RISKING THEIR
10:51:23 LIVES TO DO EVERY DAY WHAT THEY DO IN THE FIELD, REQUIRES
10:51:27 DECISIONS WITHOUT A PROSECUTOR, SUPERVISOR OR JUDGE LOOKING
10:51:30 OVER THEIR SHOULDERS.
10:51:31 AND JUST LIKE US REGULAR CIVILIANS THEY ALSO MAKE MISTAKES.
10:51:35 THERE ARE HEROES AND THERE ARE BAD APPLES IN THE PROFESSION,
10:51:39 TOO.
10:51:40 WHILE YOU SHOULDN'T JUDGE AN ENTIRE PROFESSION BY A FEW BAD
10:51:43 APPLES THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME PROFESSIONS WHERE THERE ARE NO
10:51:46 BAD APPLES, JUDGES, PROSECUTORS, AND, YES, COPS TOO.
10:51:51 POLICE OFFICERS ARE CIVIL SERVANTS.
10:51:54 AS SUCH THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
10:51:57 THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS REPEATING THE SAME ACTION
10:52:00 HAVING THE SAME RESULTS.
10:52:01 THE STATUS QUO FAILED US.
10:52:04 A REVIEW BOARD FRAMED BY OFFICERS AND SOME OF THE SPEAKERS
10:52:07 HERE TODAY AS BEING, QUOTE, DISRESPECTFUL OR ATTACKING
10:52:11 POLICE.
10:52:15 RECKLESS, UNHELPFUL, AND DARE I SAY SNOWFLAKE ARGUMENT
10:52:20 BECAUSE IT IS A PRO-POLICE MEASURE.
10:52:22 GOOD COPS WANT ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:52:24 POLICE UNIONS RESISTED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT AT ACCOUNTABILITY
10:52:28 THROUGHOUT HISTORY.
10:52:29 LOOK AT THE FIGHT THEY PUT UP AGAINST BODY WORN CAMERAS FOR
10:52:35 YEARS.
10:52:36 WE ARE HERE TODAY NOT BECAUSE POLICE -- BUT BECAUSE THOSE
10:52:39 BODY WORN CAMERAS AND CELL PHONE CAMERAS HAVE BEGUN TO
10:52:43 CAPTURE THE RECORD IN REALTIME RATHER THAN AN OFFICER'S
10:52:46 CAREFULLY CURATED REPORT AFTER THE FACT.
10:52:50 IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, JUST COMMENT WITH US AND WE
10:52:52 WILL LET YOU GO.
10:52:54 SO JUST COOPERATE WITH THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, AND IF YOU
10:52:57 HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, THEY WILL LET YOU GO.
10:53:01 THE CRB IS AN -- SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT OF THE MAYOR'S
10:53:04 OFFICE.
10:53:05 THEY SHOULD HAVE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL WHOSE OBLIGATION IS
10:53:11 THROUGH THE BOARD ITSELF.
10:53:13 THE CRB ALSO NEEDS TO DECIDE FOR ITSELF TAMPA INVESTIGATION
10:53:17 AND NOT TAKE WHATEVER FROM THE TPD.
10:53:22 THEREFORE THAT MEANS SUBPOENA POWER.
10:53:24 TOO OFTEN WE JUDGE OTHER GROUPS BY THEIR EXAMPLES AND WE
10:53:29 JUDGE OURSELVES BY OUR BEST INTENTIONS.
10:53:31 GEORGE W. BUSH.
10:53:33 WE OWE IT TO OUR CITY TO MAKE CHANGES.
10:53:35 THOSE IN POWER SHOULD NOT JUDGE THEMSELVES BY THEIR BEST
10:53:38 INTENTIONS.
10:53:38 THE STATUS QUO HAS FAILED US.
10:53:40 THANK YOU.
10:53:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:53:42 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:53:42 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE MATTHEW
10:53:47 LOMPALSKI.
10:53:52 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:53:53 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:53:55 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:53:57 QUAY, YEAH, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR ALLOWING US TO GIVE
10:54:04 PUBLIC COMMENT OWN THIS.
10:54:06 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IT SCREAMS PARANOIA WHEN THE POLICE
10:54:12 UNION SENDS OUT A BLAST E-MAIL TO FORMER POLICE OFFICERS AND
10:54:21 POLICE OFFICERS TO FLOOD THE CONVENTION CENTER TO OPPOSE THE
10:54:24 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD AND GIVING THEM MORE POWER OVER POLICE
10:54:28 OFFICERS AND THEIR DISCIPLINE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY SAY.
10:54:36 SO THESE CHANGES OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WOULD IN NO
10:54:40 WAY AFFECT ANY SORT OF DISCIPLINE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:54:43 THE ONLY THING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AFRAID OF HERE IS
10:54:47 TRANSPARENCY.
10:54:48 AND THE OPTICS OF A PUBLIC SYSTEM SHOWING THEIR CONDUCT OUT
10:54:57 IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE.
10:55:00 SO THE -- I WANT TO SAY IT LIKE THIS.
10:55:03 THE TAMPA POLICE UNION -- EXCUSE ME.
10:55:08 THE UNION -- SORRY.
10:55:18 OKAY.
10:55:18 SO THE THING IS THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD HAVING ITS OWN
10:55:22 SUBPOENA POWER IN NO WAY ALLOWS THEM TO DISCIPLINE THE
10:55:24 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:55:27 THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BILL OF RIGHTS PREVENTS ANY OF THIS SO
10:55:31 THAT'S GOING TO MY POINTS THAT ALL THEY ARE AFRAID OF IS THE
10:55:35 TRANSPARENCY.
10:55:35 THEY DON'T WANT THEIR MISCONDUCT IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE.
10:55:38 SO, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER COMMENTER SAID THAT YOU WON'T HEAR ANY
10:55:45 FACT-BASED OR EVIDENCE-BASED COMMENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
10:55:48 THIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE THERE IS NO FACT-BASED OR
10:55:51 EVIDENCE-BASED ARGUMENT TO MAKE.
10:55:54 THEY ARE ONLY HEARING STATS FROM THAT SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT.
10:56:00 SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, YOU GUYS SAY, HOW ARE WE
10:56:03 GOING TO PAY FOR THIS STUFF?
10:56:04 LET'S GET THIS HE IS GRANTS FOR MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
10:56:07 THESE GRANTS ARE ONLY GIVING US EQUIPMENT TO FIGHT A WAR ON
10:56:10 DRUGS THAT HAS BEEN FAILING SINCE 1971.
10:56:13 OKAY?
10:56:15 AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS $174 MILLION AT THEIR
10:56:18 DISPOSAL.
10:56:19 AND MEANWHILE, LET ME BE A LITTLE ANECDOTAL.
10:56:25 SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY HAS A HOMELESS OUTREACH
10:56:28 DEPARTMENT, OKAY?
10:56:29 THAT'S HEADED BY ONE POLICE OFFICER.
10:56:32 DO YOU GUYS NOTICE WHAT THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THAT DEPARTMENT
10:56:34 IS?
10:56:35 IT'S ZERO DOLLARS.
10:56:37 IT'S ZERO DOLLARS.
10:56:38 MEANWHILE, THE BIKE COPS CHASE THE HOUSELESS FOLKS AWAY FROM
10:56:43 THE PARKS AT 5:30 IN THE MORNING, A RUDE AWAKENING EVERY
10:56:47 SINGLE MORNING.
10:56:48 SO THE MONEY IS THERE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY
10:56:51 THAT YOU GUYS REFUSE TO DO.
10:56:52 SO ONCE AGAIN I WILL ADD TO MR. CITRO PERSONALLY, I STILL
10:56:56 HAVEN'T HAD A RESPONSE TO MR. CITRO OR HIS AIDE REGARDING
10:57:00 HIS COMMENTS SAYING THAT THE HOMELESS, THE HOUSELESS CRISIS
10:57:05 IN TAMPA IS NOT A TAMPA PROBLEM, IT IS A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
10:57:08 PROBLEM.
10:57:08 SO I KNOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD
10:57:11 AND NOT INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEN.
10:57:13 BUT MR. CITRO, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY
10:57:16 TO COME CLEAN BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVEN'T RETURNED ANY OF MY
10:57:19 PHONE CALLS.
10:57:20 YOUR AIDE CLEARLY SAID, AND I QUOTE, THE HOUSELESS
10:57:24 PROBLEM --
10:57:25 >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:57:28 PLEASE ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL AS A BOARD, NOT AS INDIVIDUAL
10:57:31 MEMBERS.
10:57:31 I'M SURE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET OR CALL
10:57:35 OR SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS.
10:57:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:37 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:57:38 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE RUSSELL MEYER.
10:57:43 RUSSELL, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:57:46 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:57:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REVEREND MYER.
10:57:49 >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHAIR.
10:57:54 IT'S A PLEASURE AND HONOR TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN TODAY, AND I
10:57:57 APPRECIATE THE WORK AND DEDICATION THAT YOU GIVE AND
10:58:01 PARTICULARLY THE LONG WORK YOU HAVE DONE ON THIS PARTICULAR
10:58:04 ISSUE.
10:58:06 TAMPA LEADS FLORIDA IN THE NEW POLICING NARRATIVE AND WE ALL
10:58:13 NEED THIS.
10:58:13 TODAY IN FLORIDA, YOU GET SHOT FIRST AND THEN INVESTIGATED
10:58:18 LATER BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.
10:58:21 OUR POLICY MUST MAKE THIS IMPOSSIBLE.
10:58:27 A HEALTHY CRB CONTRIBUTES TO US GETTING IT RIGHT.
10:58:33 RESIDENTS MUST SUPPORT A FAIR AND ACCOUNTABLE POLICE
10:58:37 DEPARTMENT.
10:58:38 WE KNOW THE LONG HISTORY OF POLICING IN THE COUNTRY, THE
10:58:41 COUNTY, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN ABOUT CONTROLLING BLACK AND
10:58:46 BROWN LIVES.
10:58:48 IN THE 1800S, IT WAS AGAINST SEMINOLES, HOLDING APPLICANTS
10:58:55 HOSTAGE, CHASING RUNAWAY SLAVES.
10:58:58 IN THE 1900S, IT WAS ENFORCING BLACK CODE, JIM CROW, AND
10:59:02 SEGREGATION, LYNCHING BLACK MEN AND WOMEN WHO CHALLENGED THE
10:59:08 VERY DEHUMANIZATION IN THE SOCIAL ORDER.
10:59:11 AFTER THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA, IT HAS STILL BEEN ABOUT
10:59:17 QUESTIONING PEOPLE FOR WHY THEY ARE IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD,
10:59:19 STOPPING THEM WHILE THEY ARE WALKING, DRIVING, OR RIDING
10:59:23 BIKES, EVEN IF THEY ARE ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIALS.
10:59:30 CONSIDERING THEM SUSPECTS BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN
10:59:35 AND WHERE THEY HAPPEN TO BE.
10:59:38 USING OVERWHELMING AND DEADLY FORCE FIRST AND ASKING
10:59:42 QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
10:59:46 WE NEED A NEW POLICE NARRATIVE, ONE THAT PROTECTS YOUNG
10:59:51 BLACK PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY ARE IN THE CITY, ONE THAT SEES
10:59:57 THEM AS THE PROMISE AND FUTURE OF TAMPA, ONE THAT ENDS THE
11:00:02 SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE, A FULLY INDEPENDENT CRB IS
11:00:07 ESSENTIAL FOR BOTH HOLDING BACK ACTORS ACCOUNTABLE AND
11:00:12 HELPING TO CREATE THE NARRATIVE WE ALL WANT TO SEE ABOUT THE
11:00:17 WAY POLICE AND COMMUNITY INTERACT AND RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER.
11:00:23 THE CRB NEEDS TO CONTROL ITS OWN INVESTIGATIONS FOR IT TO
11:00:28 HAVE THE RESPECT OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:00:30 OTHERWISE, IT WILL BE SEEN AS A RIGHT LOST BY THE MAYOR'S
11:00:35 OFFICE WHICH SIMPLY CONTINUES THE OLD NARRATIVE.
11:00:42 THIS MEANS THAT CRB MUST BE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHETHER IT
11:00:46 INVESTIGATES AND REVIEWS, TWO, HAVE ITS OWN ATTORNEY AND
11:00:49 STAFF INDEPENDENT OF ANY OTHER OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT INTEREST,
11:00:53 THREE, HAVE ITS MEMBERS APPOINTED EQUALLY BY CITY COUNCIL
11:00:57 MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE
11:01:02 PUBLIC SAFETY IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT INCLUDES ALL OF US, AND
11:01:07 FOUR, HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS FOR WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE THAT
11:01:13 OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED.
11:01:18 DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, YES, EVEN MAYOR CASTOR, YOU HAVE
11:01:22 THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD FLORIDA IN WHAT POLICING PROTECTS
11:01:26 ALL PEOPLE.
11:01:28 YOU CAN DEFINE PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE 21st CENTURY.
11:01:31 I URGE YOU TO CREATE A TRULY COMMUNITY EXPECTED AND EXPECTED
11:01:38 CRB.
11:01:39 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
11:01:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:42 NEXT SPEAKER.
11:01:42 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE SEAN BROWN.
11:01:48 SEAN, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:01:50 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:01:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BROWN?
11:02:08 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:02:09 >> I UNMUTED MYSELF.
11:02:11 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:02:12 COUNCIL, I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 75,
11:02:20 THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE MADE IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORK
11:02:23 SHOWN.
11:02:28 SO MY REITERATION ON THOSE, ONE THAT WAS MADE WAS TO PUT A
11:02:33 SUSPENSION ON THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNTIL FURTHER
11:02:38 STUDY AND REVIEW CAN OCCUR, THAT WILL FIX QUITE A BIT OF
11:02:45 POLICY AND DISCREPANCIES WITHIN THERE.
11:02:47 AND SO I KNOW THIS ITEM HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE MEETING IN
11:02:51 DECEMBER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO STAY OAT LINE AND JUST KIND
11:02:55 OF REITERATE THAT POINT AND THAT WE ARE HOPING SOME SORT OF
11:02:58 MORATORIUM OR SUSPENSION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OCCURS
11:03:02 BEFORE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT -- FURTHER DEVELOPERS COME BEFORE
11:03:06 THIS COUNCIL, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GET THEIR PROPOSALS IN,
11:03:10 AND ESSENTIALLY BE GRANDFATHERED IN AFTER THE FACT.
11:03:15 BEFORE MEANINGFUL CHANGES CAN BE MADE.
11:03:17 SO THAT IS THE ONLY COMMENT I AM GOING TO MAKE TODAY IN
11:03:21 REGARDS TO BE THAT.
11:03:23 AND I WILL DEFINITELY HAVE MORE LATER ON AT THE NEXT
11:03:27 MEETING.
11:03:28 SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR LISTENING.
11:03:30 I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
11:03:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:33 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
11:03:34 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE SUSAN SMITH.
11:03:40 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
11:03:42 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:03:43 >> I THINK I AM UNMUTED.
11:03:50 THANK YOU.
11:03:51 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME TODAY FOR REFORM OF THE
11:03:55 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
11:03:56 I WILL BE BRIEF AND SPEAK FOR A MORE GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE THIS
11:03:59 MORNING.
11:04:00 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AROUND THE
11:04:03 UNITED STATES HAVE TWO BIG PROBLEMS.
11:04:05 FIRST IS A FEW BAD APPLES MENTIONED BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS WHO
11:04:11 ARE KILLING BLACK PEOPLE WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION.
11:04:13 AND SECOND IS THE LACK OF TRUST WHICH IS RESULTING FROM THE
11:04:17 COVER UP OF THESE KILLINGS.
11:04:19 UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED SO FREQUENTLY, MOST
11:04:24 RECENTLY THE DISTURBING VIDEO RELEASED IN BREVARD COUNTY,
11:04:31 THIS DISTRUST OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SPREADING BEYOND THE
11:04:35 NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE DEADLY ACTS ARE OCCURRING AND INTO
11:04:37 EVERY COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY.
11:04:39 I THINK THIS WAS EVIDENCED FROM THE PROTESTORS WE SAW IT
11:04:45 THIS STREETS LAST SUMMER.
11:04:47 THIS DISTRUST CAN'T BE CONTAINED.
11:04:50 IF YOU WANT TO RESTORE SAFE AND POLICE FORCES, ONE OF THE
11:04:54 MOST EFFECTIVE STEPS YOU CAN TAKE IS TO GUARANTEE FULL
11:04:58 TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:05:01 FOR THAT REASON, A STRONG INDEPENDENT AND FAIR CITIZEN
11:05:05 REVIEW BOARD WITH SUBPOENA POWER AND THE ABILITIES TO
11:05:08 INVESTIGATE OPEN CASES SHOULD BE WELCOME BY LAWMAKERS AS
11:05:14 WELL AS LAW ENFORCERS.
11:05:16 I URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS WHO CALL FOR REFORM.
11:05:20 LISTEN TO THE ACLU.
11:05:22 WE WILL ALL BENEFIT FROM IMPROVING TRUST, NOT FURTHER
11:05:28 REGARDING IT.
11:05:29 THANK YOU.
11:05:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
11:05:31 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS -- NANCY FORTUNE.
11:05:37 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:05:38 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:05:39 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:05:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
11:05:47 GO AHEAD.
11:05:47 >> GREAT.
11:05:49 MY NAME IS SIDNEY HOLTON, A SECOND-YEAR LAW STUDENT AT
11:05:54 STETSON UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF LAW.
11:05:56 I AM NOT INTERESTED IN DEFUNDING THE POLICE.
11:05:58 I WANT TO SAY THAT IN FRONT.
11:05:59 WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN IS THE REHABILITATION OF THE
11:06:02 REPUTATION OF POLICE AMONG CITIZENS.
11:06:05 THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
11:06:08 ENHANCING THE TRUST BETWEEN TPD AND THE COMMUNITY, CORRECT
11:06:14 ITERATION.
11:06:15 IN ITS CURRENT FORM THE CRB IS TO REVIEW CLOSED
11:06:21 INVESTIGATIONS BY TPD THEMSELVES.
11:06:22 THE CRB PERFORMS THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION, AND TESTIMONY AND
11:06:28 EVIDENCE, NOT OVER POLICE OFFICERS LIKE THE TPD IS FALSELY
11:06:33 CLAIMING.
11:06:37 CITY EMPLOYEE ATTORNEYS WOULD HAVE INHERENT INTERESTS.
11:06:41 NOT ONLY ARE THESE ATTORNEYS SUBJECT TO PRESSURE FROM THEIR
11:06:45 OWN EMPLOYERS BUT FROM OTHER AGENCIES.
11:06:48 THE CRB NEEDS ITS OWN ATTORNEY SO THEY CAN ACT IN ACCORDANCE
11:06:51 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ETHICS AND THE FLORIDA BAR
11:06:54 RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT WITH AN ARRANGEMENT THAT WOULD
11:07:00 CAUSE UNDUE INFLUENCE.
11:07:01 THE CRB ITSELF NEEDS TO BE FULLY INDEPENDENT OF INFLUENCE.
11:07:05 THE MAYOR SHOULD NOT APPOINT CRB MEMBERS.
11:07:11 THAT WOULD BE A CLEAR CONFLICT OF OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE.
11:07:16 THE CRB IS ONLY ABLE TO REVIEW WHAT THE CITY ALLOWS IT TO
11:07:20 REVIEW WHICH IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE COMMISSION TO
11:07:23 PROVIDE POLICE OVERSIGHT AND ENHANCED TRUST.
11:07:26 THE CRB -- WANTS TO INVESTIGATE.
11:07:31 OTHERWISE TPD AND THE CITY OF TAMPA IS JUST PAYING LIP
11:07:34 SERVICE TO ITS CITIZENS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT.
11:07:37 WE NEVER ASK FOR MONEY FOR MILITARY GRADE GEAR TO BE USED
11:07:42 AGAINST CITIZENS.
11:07:47 THE POLICE SHOULD BE --
11:07:50 IF YOU HAVE DOING NOTHING ILLEGAL YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY
11:07:52 ABOUT, RIGHT?
11:07:53 IN TODAY'S POLITICAL CLIMATE A CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WOULD
11:07:57 GO A LONG WAY -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
11:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD ON A SECOND.
11:08:11 WHAT'S GOING ON?
11:08:12 >> WHAT IS THAT?
11:08:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S OTHER AUDIO COMING IN.
11:08:18 >> HOLD ON, MA'AM.
11:08:27 (BACKGROUND AUDIO PLAYING)
11:08:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE MUTE
11:08:58 YOURSELVES.
11:09:02 PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.
11:09:03 (PAUSE)
11:10:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HOPE THAT'S THE END OF IT.
11:10:03 >> AUDIO: HI.
11:10:07 THIS IS MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
11:10:13 THIS IS MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
11:10:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMEBODY IS LIVE.
11:10:24 (BACKGROUND AUDIO STOPS)
11:10:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMEONE PUT THEIR PHONE ON HOLD.
11:10:44 >> I WAS SAYING IF THE STAFF MEMBER CALLED IN AND DID NOT
11:11:03 LOG ON, WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THEM AND CAN'T MUTE THEM.
11:11:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN ALL STAFF JUST GET OFF FOR THE TIME
11:11:10 BEING?
11:11:12 IF THERE'S ANY STAFF ON THE LINE THAT CALLED IN, AND IS ON
11:11:16 HOLD HERE, PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM THE CALL FOR A FEW MINUTES
11:11:20 SO WE CAN FINISH THIS PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:11:25 I'M GETTING ALL SORTS OF TEXTS.
11:11:27 THE MAYOR IS REALLY DETERMINED TO SPREAD THE WORD HERE ON
11:11:30 PUBLIC WORKS.
11:11:31 OKAY.
11:11:31 [ LAUGHTER ]
11:11:34 ALL RIGHT.
11:11:37 IS IT OVER?
11:11:40 >> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT.
11:11:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE?
11:11:44 >> YES, I AM.
11:11:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE PARAPLEGIC FOR THAT.
11:11:47 IT HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE DAYS.
11:11:55 WE'LL RESTART THE CLOCK THERE.
11:11:58 >> NO PROBLEM.
11:11:58 I WILL JUST FINISH UP WITH WHAT I WAS SAYING.
11:12:01 I AM SAYING IN TODAY'S CLIMATE A REAL CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD
11:12:06 WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO RELIEVING SOME OF THE TENSION BUT
11:12:09 ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE EXPERIENCING.
11:12:12 IN ITS CURRENT FORM, THE CRB DOES NOTHING TO PROVIDE
11:12:15 AUTHENTIC OVERSIGHT AND ONLY SERVES FRUSTRATION IN OUR
11:12:20 COMMUNITY.
11:12:20 WITH SOMEBODY CHANGES, THE CRB CAN DO MUCH MORE.
11:12:23 IT CAN COMPLETELY CURE THESE FRUSTRATIONS BY CREATING
11:12:27 AVENUES BETWEEN TPD AND THE REAL LIVE PEOPLE WHO AT THE END
11:12:30 OF THE DAY SHARE THE COMMON GOALS OF THE CRB'S MISSION
11:12:34 STATEMENT.
11:12:39 SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
11:12:41 THANK YOU.
11:12:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:43 AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT INTERRUPTION.
11:12:49 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:54 NEXT SPEAKER.
11:12:54 >>THE CLERK: WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO BACK TO GRANT LOVERING?
11:13:05 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:13:06 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:13:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
11:13:09 GO AHEAD.
11:13:09 >> GREAT.
11:13:10 SO FIRST OFF, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I HOPE THE
11:13:16 COUNCIL AND ALL THE BACK THE BLUE FOLKS CAN LISTEN MORE TO
11:13:20 THE ACLU AND ALL THE ACTIVISTS WHO ARE DEMANDING SOME
11:13:24 OVERSIGHT FROM THE COMMUNITY REVIEW BOARD, AND OBVIOUSLY THE
11:13:28 POLICE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE MONEY TO FURTHER MILITARIZE.
11:13:34 IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THERE ARE NO
11:13:37 LOGICAL ARGUMENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE, JUST FEAR BASED
11:13:41 EMOTION.
11:13:43 THERE ARE CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT AREN'T ABLE TO LISTEN
11:13:46 TO THE LOGIC BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING SCARED.
11:13:49 NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANYBODY'S HOUSE OR SCAR.
11:13:52 WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GET EXTRA ONES,
11:13:54 YOU KNOW, AND THAT FOLKS WHOSE BASIC NEEDS AREN'T BEING MET
11:14:00 ARE THE BASIC NEEDS WILL BE MET.
11:14:03 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:14:04 AND ACTUALLY THE REASON ANOTHER ACTIVIST JUSTIN COFFIE NEVER
11:14:14 RECEIVED HIS BUT HE SIGNED IT UP Y USING MINE SO IF YOU ARE
11:14:18 ABLE TO GET HIM TONE SPEAK THAT QUO BE GREAT.
11:14:20 THANK YOU.
11:14:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:22 NEXT SPEAKER.
11:14:23 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT IS GOING TO BE ALEXA.
11:14:30 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:14:32 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:14:34 >> CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
11:14:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
11:14:40 GO AHEAD.
11:14:40 >> COUNCILMEN, DISTRICT 4 IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:14:46 TO BE HONEST, I WANTED TO TYPE UP ONE OF MY DRAMATIC THREE
11:14:53 MINUTE SPEECHES TO GET MY POINT ACROSS.
11:14:55 HOWEVER, I DIDN'T HAVE THE ENERGY ANYMORE TO SPEAK
11:15:02 EFFECTIVELY OR ELOQUENTLY.
11:15:03 THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I URGE EVERYBODY TO
11:15:06 LOOK AT THIS, AND THE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP RIGHT NOW,
11:15:16 OBJECTIVELY IT IS NOT NORMAL FOR A REGULAR BODY OAR EVEN A
11:15:23 PUBLIC SAFETY BODY TO RESIST OVERSIGHT BY INDEPENDENT
11:15:29 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
11:15:30 THAT IS A RED FLAG, AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT SIDE
11:15:36 OF THE TABLE YOU ARE ON.
11:15:37 IT'S JUST VERY QUESTIONABLE.
11:15:39 AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER AND ASK WHY
11:15:42 IS TPD AND THE P BA AND THE MAYOR -- OPEN UP TO CONVERSATION
11:15:49 BY OTHER PEOPLE.
11:15:50 IT'S A HUGE RED FLAG.
11:15:53 AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY WITHOUT REGRETTING ANYTHING.
11:15:58 SO THANK YOU.
11:15:59 HAVE A GOOD DAY.
11:15:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:01 NEXT SPEAKER.
11:16:01 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:16:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT COMPLETES THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
11:16:08 REGISTERED OR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK THAT ARE REGISTERED
11:16:11 ONLINE.
11:16:12 WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE MR. DIXON HERE ON NUMBER
11:16:17 69.
11:16:17 HE WAS HERE AT THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN WE HAD FOLKS
11:16:20 IN THE ROOM.
11:16:22 IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE THREE
11:16:24 MINUTES.
11:16:24 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:16:25 >> GOOD MORNING TO EACH OF YOU.
11:16:35 I AM REVEREND WILLIE G. DIXON, AN 89-YEAR-OLD RESIDENT OF
11:16:40 THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND I WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA HOUSING
11:16:46 FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
11:16:48 AND WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY IS TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING A
11:16:51 BOLD STAND AT YOUR LAST MEETING TO MAKE A RESOLUTION FOR
11:16:57 REPARATIONS, AND TODAY YOU WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY BECAUSE
11:17:02 YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT AGENDA ITEM 69.
11:17:07 WE HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES THAT IS SUPPORTING
11:17:10 OUR ISSUE.
11:17:11 AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT FROM THE MAYOR.
11:17:17 SHE SAYS, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM THESE THINGS THAT HAPPENED
11:17:20 IN THE PAST.
11:17:22 AND HERE SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE HEIGHTS.
11:17:29 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, IT WILL SPEAK FOR ITSELF, THE
11:17:33 FOUNDATION ON PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT AREA.
11:17:36 AND YESTERDAY, I DID GIVE YOU A FILE WITH ALL OF THE
11:17:40 EVIDENCE.
11:17:41 AND ONE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THIS.
11:17:46 YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING BOLD.
11:17:47 BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS YOU HAVE A MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.
11:17:53 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS MEETING WILL BE ONE SIDED.
11:17:59 UNDER THE SIXTH AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I HAVE AN
11:18:02 OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THE PERSON THAT IS GOING
11:18:07 TO MAKE THE REPORT.
11:18:09 AND ALSO IF YOU GO BACK AND SEARCH TEXAS, THE UNITED STATES
11:18:13 SUPREME COURT SAYS I HAVE A RIGHT TO CONFRONT ANYONE THAT
11:18:17 WILL CONTRADICT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
11:18:20 WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT NOTHING WAS
11:18:24 DONE IN THE DARK.
11:18:26 HERE IS A PICTURE SHOWING OVER -- SINCE 1970, THEY HAVE BEEN
11:18:33 PLANNING TO TAKE THE PROPERTY FROM BLACK FOLKS.
11:18:37 I USED TO LIVE IN THIS AREA, AND NOW IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO
11:18:42 MAKE REPARATIONS FOR WHAT IS DONE.
11:18:45 NOT ONLY REPARATIONS BUT COMPENSATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN FAIR
11:18:50 TO OUR ORGANIZATION.
11:18:50 AT THE AGE OF 69 I WANT TO LEAVE A RECORD TO KNOW THAT I DID
11:18:55 WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, TO BRING THIS THING TO THE
11:18:58 PUBLIC.
11:19:00 AND THIS SHOULD BE IN ARCHIVES, BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO
11:19:03 DISCOVER THINGS THAT HIDDEN GRAVES AND PEOPLE BEEN DEAD, AND
11:19:08 THERE IS NO HISTORY.
11:19:09 BUT IN YOUR ARCHIVES, YOU WILL HAVE A HISTORY OF WHAT HAS
11:19:13 BEEN DONE TO BLACK FOLKS HERE IN TAMPA.
11:19:19 THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN WEST TAMPA.
11:19:21 BUT THEY DESTROYED A BLACK COMMUNITY.
11:19:26 AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE CANNOT CHANGE HISTORY, BUT YOU CAN
11:19:30 LEARN FROM HISTORY, AND YOU CAN COMPENSATE FOR WHAT YOU
11:19:33 DIDN'T DO.
11:19:35 NOW, REPARATION IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON ALL OVER
11:19:38 AMERICA.
11:19:39 AND THIS WILL BE A BLUEPRINT FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW, HERE IN
11:19:42 TAMPA.
11:19:43 AND I KNOW MY FRIEND, HE DOESN'T LIKE ME TO CALL -- HE JUST
11:19:51 WANTS ME TO CALL HIM CHARLIE, BUT HE IS FAMILIAR WITH TAKE
11:19:54 IT TO THE HEIGHTS.
11:19:56 AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:19:59 WE WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE WHAT IS DUE TO OUR ORGANIZATION.
11:20:03 AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:20:07 AND MAY YOU BE BLESSED.
11:20:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:10 WE HAVE ONE MORE?
11:20:11 YES, SIR.
11:20:11 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE
11:20:14 PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THE RECORDED
11:20:18 MESSAGES.
11:20:19 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:20:20 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:20:21 >> MALCOLM.
11:20:29 I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CULTURE FOUNDATION.
11:20:33 REVEREND WILLIE DIXON JUST EXPLAINED HOW THIS PLAN COULD
11:20:37 TAKE OVER BLACK -- HOUSES IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY UNFOLDED
11:20:41 OVER THE PAST ALMOST 50 YEARS.
11:20:46 WHAT PEOPLE WILL SEE AS THEY WATCH THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING
11:20:50 AND GET TO ITEM NUMBER 69, EVEN IF YOU READ THE AGENDA, YOU
11:20:53 WILL SEE THAT THE CITY TRIES TO BACK OUT OF THE DEAL.
11:20:57 THIS ADMINISTRATION TRIES TO BACK OUT OF THE DEAL THE
11:21:00 PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION MADE WITH THE FOUNDATION BY SAYING
11:21:03 THE STEPS OF THE GRANT ON REVEREND DIXON'S CLAIM AND TWO
11:21:09 THAT CITY WAS NOT A PARTY TO THE DEAL.
11:21:11 AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE DEAL, THOUGH.
11:21:13 AT THIS TIME SAME OLD MAKE A TREAT I, BREAK A TREATY TRICK,
11:21:17 THAT GOVERNMENTS HAVE DONE FOR A LONG TIME TO TAKE PROPERTY
11:21:23 FROM PEOPLE OF THE NATION.
11:21:26 WHAT THE CITY DID WAS GIVE COACH FOUNDATION SOME MONEY.
11:21:32 RIGHT?
11:21:32 THEY GO OUT AND ACQUIRE POOR PEOPLE'S HOUSES, LET THEM KNOW
11:21:37 THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND REDEVELOP,
11:21:40 AND THEN SELL US BACK THE PROPERTY FOR TEN DOLLARS, AND THEN
11:21:45 WE'LL HAVE SOME LENDER GIVE US THE FIRST MORTGAGE, AND THEN
11:21:49 WE WILL SPLIT SOME MONEY WITH YOU, BUT NOW THE CITY WANTS TO
11:21:52 SAY, OH, WE WEREN'T A PARTY TO THE DEAL WHEN THE CONTRACT
11:21:55 WAS DRAWN UP, IN AN ATTEMPT TO ESCAPE PRIVITY TO THIS
11:22:00 CONTRACT.
11:22:01 SO YOU MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE DEAL WHEN YOU READ
11:22:06 ITEM NUMBER 69, BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL BREAKDOWN.
11:22:10 THE CITY TOOK TAMPA HEIGHTS FROM BLACK PEOPLE USING
11:22:14 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE COACH, NORIEGA TRIED TO TAKE IT
11:22:23 TO THE HEIGHTS, REVEREND DIXON SHOWED SEVERAL TIMES DURING
11:22:26 HIS PRESENTATION, AND THIS PICTURE THAT YOU SEE OVER HERE ON
11:22:29 THE EASEL.
11:22:30 SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT RIGHT NOW, THE LAND THAT COACH USED
11:22:35 TO OWN IS OCCUPIED BY THE POE APARTMENTS AND THERE IS
11:22:40 SOMETHING IN THE AREA OF $64 MILLION.
11:22:45 THIS CITY COUNCIL OWES COACH FOUNDATION AND THE BLACK
11:22:48 COMMUNITY SOME MONEY OR SOME LAND OR BOTH, AND REVEREND
11:22:54 DIXON IS RIGHT, REPARATIONS ARE DUE.
11:22:56 YOU SHOULD DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:22:58 THE LAST THING I WILL SAY, THIS STUFF ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY
11:23:04 REVIEW BOARD AND THIS OVERSIGHT THING.
11:23:06 I WILL SAY TO THE CITIZENS THAT IF THIS CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T
11:23:12 MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD HAS TEETH AND
11:23:16 POWER, THEN THE CITIZENS OURSELVES SHOULD SEIZE THAT POWER,
11:23:22 SUE THE CITY.
11:23:24 THERE ARE 42 U.S. 93 CLAIM, SUE THE CITY, CITY THE CITY, AND
11:23:29 THEN YOU CAN SUBPOENA THE INFORMATION YOU WANT.
11:23:32 SUE THE CITY AND THEN YOU CAN INVESTIGATE A CURRENT ACTION
11:23:39 OR COMPLAINT YOU HAVE AGAINST THE CITY.
11:23:40 SUE THEM.
11:23:42 IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GET THE POWER THEMSELVES.
11:23:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:23:47 THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE AND REGISTERED
11:23:50 SPEAKERS.
11:23:51 WE HAVE 8 RECORDED MESSAGES TO PLAY.
11:23:53 MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.
11:23:55 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY VERY QUICKLY.
11:23:59 I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME BUT I WAS TALKING TO OUR
11:24:03 COUNCIL MR. SHELBY ON THIS.
11:24:05 I KNOW WE HAVE OUR ACTING FIRE CHIEF HERE WHO IS WAITING ON
11:24:08 ITEM NUMBER 68.
11:24:09 I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD HEAR THE ITEMS OR HEAR THE
11:24:13 MESSAGES ON WHICH WE NEED TO VOTE PRIOR TO LUNCH.
11:24:16 MR. SHELBY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE WAIT INDICATING TO
11:24:20 ME, SIR.
11:24:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CO-ASK THE CLERK.
11:24:23 >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY QUICK.
11:24:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE 8 RECORDINGS BUT YOU CAN'T
11:24:29 DETERMINE WHICH ARE RELATED BECAUSE THEY ARE ON CONSENT
11:24:31 DOCKET VERSUS THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONTINUED?
11:24:35 >>THE CLERK: NO, BECAUSE THEY ONLY SAY ITEMS 1 THROUGH 8.
11:24:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, THE THINGS YOU CAN DO, THERE'S
11:24:42 NOTHING -- THE INFORMATION REPORT IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE
11:24:47 ASKING FOR.
11:24:47 >>LUIS VIERA: NUMBER 68.
11:24:48 I WILL BE MAKING SOME MOTIONS FROM THAT WITH THE CONSENT OF
11:24:51 THE CHAIR.
11:24:52 BUT IF WE CAN HEAR THEM, OBVIOUSLY, I JUST WANTED TO JUST
11:24:56 MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THAT WE HAVE OUR ACTING FIRE CHIEF HERE,
11:25:00 AND I WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER HOUR AND A
11:25:02 HALF.
11:25:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, IF THERE'S
11:25:06 NOT -- THOSE MESSAGES THAT RELATE TO THE SUBJECT MATTER, IF
11:25:12 COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE THAT COMMENDATION TO THE ACTING FIRE
11:25:15 CHIEF UNDER COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
11:25:19 I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS UP.
11:25:23 BUT WE HAVE TO BE SURE BEFORE FINAL ACTION BY THE CITY
11:25:27 COUNCIL WE SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
11:25:29 BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THOSE.
11:25:30 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY REALLY QUICKLY.
11:25:33 MAYBE THE MESSAGES ARE 15 MINUTES AND THIS IS MUCH ADO ABOUT
11:25:36 NOTHING BUT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE FINAL ITEM
11:25:39 68 BE HEARD PRIOR TO LUNCH REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO WITH
11:25:42 THOSE MESSAGES.
11:25:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP AFTER
11:25:45 RECORDED MESSAGES THAT WE GO TO ITEM 68 AND GET IT DONE
11:25:48 BEFORE LUNCH.
11:25:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:25:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHICH MEANS WE MAY GO TO LUNCH AT
11:25:54 12:30, WHATEVER IT IS.
11:25:57 LET'S ADJUSTS LISTEN TO THOSE AND GET THEM OUTS OF THE WAY
11:26:00 AND THEN GO TO ITEM 68.
11:26:01 >>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIR.
11:26:04 RECORDED MESSAGES.
11:26:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:26:06 >> [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
11:26:54 [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:28:36 [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]
11:28:45 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, HERE IS THE NEXT MESSAGE.
11:29:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:29:21 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
11:29:28 >> THE COMMUNITY TRYING TO BE HEARD AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT
11:30:48 PEOPLE ARE BEING EXECUTED FOR THINGS LIKE STEALING FOOD FROM
11:30:51 A DOLLAR STORE.
11:30:53 THIS IS SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE, AND IF ANYTHING WE NEED TO BE
11:30:56 PUTTING MONEY INTO A COMMUNITY PROGRAM LIKE CAHOOTS AND
11:30:59 OTHERS THAT ACTUALLY HELP SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS IN OUR
11:31:01 COMMUNITY.
11:31:01 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE FOOD, THAT WE HAVE
11:31:04 SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
11:31:07 CRACKING DOWN ON INDIVIDUALS AND GIVING MORE AND MORE MONEY
11:31:10 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE ANY OF THESE
11:31:13 ISSUES AND IT'S NOT GOING TO REDUCE CRIME.
11:31:16 THAT'S CLEARLY TRUE, RIGHT?
11:31:17 SO I THINK WE CAN PUT THE MONEY INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
11:31:20 THANK YOU.
11:31:20 >> I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
11:31:31 MY COMMENT IS TO ADDRESS --
11:32:11 THIS IS A NEW DAY.
11:32:16 THE POLICE NEED A DIFFERENT MIND-SET TO FOCUS ON HUMAN
11:32:20 DESTINY.
11:32:22 I AM CALLING THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:32:29 WE DO NOT NEED A POLICE STATE.
11:32:31 WE NEED RESOURCES TO FIGHT POVERTY, HOMELESSNESS, CHILD
11:32:36 CARE, RACISM, AND A JUST PROGRAM.
11:32:40 WE NEED TO EMPOWER OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, NOT BUILD A
11:32:44 DISTRUST.
11:32:45 AS A RESIDENT OF TAMPA, I ASK YOU TO REFLECT ALL OF THESE --
11:32:52 REJECTS ALL OF THESE GRANTS AND CONTINUES TO BUILD THE TRUST
11:33:00 OF THE MOST MARGINALIZED RESIDENTS IN TAMPA ARE TRULY
11:33:03 SERVED.
11:33:04 I ALSO SUPPORT IMPLEMENTING THE ACLU PLANS FOR A STRONGER
11:33:11 AND MORE TRANSPARENT CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WHICH YOU ALL CAN
11:33:18 DO.
11:33:20 I THANK YOU.
11:33:21 >> MY NAME IS SOPHIA SOBRIDA.
11:33:28 I LIVE IN SULFUR SPRINGS.
11:33:29 I'M CALLING ON ITEM 71.
11:33:31 I AM ASKING AGAIN THAT THE CRB BE INVESTIGATED SUBPOENA
11:33:36 POWER AND AN ATTORNEY. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO MAKE
11:33:39 HOLDING THE POLICE ACCOUNTABLE WHEN IT MAKES A MISTAKE,
11:33:43 SHOWING THE MORE SKEPTICAL CITIZENS OF TAMPA THAT YOU ARE
11:33:49 WILLING TO BE TRANS PARENT, AND YOU ESTABLISHING SPORTS
11:33:54 LEAGUES, WE JUST WANT ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:33:57 IT IS TIME TO GIVE THE CRB AUTHORITY TO MAKE EFFECTIVE
11:34:00 CHANGE FOR THE PEOPLE AND TO GIVE THEM SUBPOENA POWER AND AN
11:34:03 INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATOR AND ATTORNEY.
11:34:05 THANK YOU.
11:34:05 >> MY NAME IS TANISHA FLOYD.
11:34:15 I LIVE AT 4902 NORTH MacDILL AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA
11:34:20 33614.
11:34:21 AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM CONTINUING TO -- THEY
11:34:32 HAVE CONTINUED TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY IN TAMPA AS WELL AS
11:34:37 OTHER VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
11:34:42 I WANT TO LEAVE A WORD FOR COUNCIL MEMBER BILL CARLSON WHO
11:34:46 VISIONED THAT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHOW UP AND SAY SOMETHING
11:34:51 LIKE -- THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT POOR PEOPLE AND CIVIL RIGHTS,
11:34:56 ET CETERA TO GIVE US THE HELP THEY NEED.
11:35:01 WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER BILL CARLSON AND THE REST OF COUNCIL,
11:35:06 YOU ARE A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT POOR PEOPLE,
11:35:10 AND IF THAT TRUTH HURTS YOU, THEN I AS A TAMPA RESIDENT
11:35:18 REJECT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ANY ADDITIONAL GRANTS, AND
11:35:22 CALL ON CITY COUNCIL TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DENY THE
11:35:30 GRANTS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED TODAY.
11:35:32 I CALL YOU TO CONTINUE TO REJECT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS
11:35:39 THE TRUST OF THE MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA AND
11:35:42 COMMUNITY CONTROL.
11:35:45 THE COMMUNITY CLEARLY, HOUSING, CHILD CARE, AND RESPONDERS
11:35:55 WHO DO NOTE WORK AS A DEPARTMENT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
11:35:58 AND THE CITY HAS TO ACT APPROPRIATELY.
11:36:02 I AM UTTERLY APPALLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BILL CARLSON'S
11:36:06 WORDS, AND JUST LET YOU NOTICE THAT YOU ARE ALL SO
11:36:11 DISCONNECTED FROM THE REALITY OF WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST,
11:36:14 WHAT BLACK PEOPLE AND OTHERS IN THIS COUNTRY, IN THIS CITY,
11:36:19 ARE UP AGAINST.
11:36:22 YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE THE BACKBONE, THE KNOWLEDGE, THE SKILLS,
11:36:26 THE STAMINA TO DO TO GET PEOPLE FREE, AND THAT WILL CONTINUE
11:36:32 TO BE FREE, COUNCIL MEMBER BILL CARLSON,
11:36:36 AND WE TRIED TO MEAT.
11:36:40 YOU DO NOT HAVE STAMINA, THE BACKBONE, THE KNOWLEDGE, THE
11:36:43 SKILL TRAINING TO BEGIN TO REPRESENT ME AND GIVE ME THE
11:36:46 FREEDOM THAT WE NEED.
11:36:51 TAKE MY WORD SERIOUSLY.
11:36:54 THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
11:36:55 I WANT COUNCIL MEMBER BILL CARLSON TO THINK ABOUT THIS, THE
11:37:01 REST OF YOU TO THINK ABOUT, ABOUT GIVING BLACK PEOPLE AND
11:37:04 OTHERS IN THE POPULATION BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DOING --
11:37:13 [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]
11:37:14 >> MY NAME IS ESTRADA, IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA.
11:37:20 I CALL TO REJECT THE GRANTS.
11:37:24 I BELIEVE WE SHOULD START WORKING ON ENSURING THAT WE
11:37:27 ACTUALLY MAKING SURE THAT COMMUNITIES HAVE ALL OF THEIR
11:37:34 BASIC NEEDS MET.
11:37:37 MULKEY DID NOT HAVE HIS BASIC NEEDS MET AND HE'S AN EXAMPLE
11:37:42 OF WHAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IN TAMPA HAS BASIC
11:37:45 NEEDS LIKE FOOD, WATER AND SHELTER, MENTAL OR SUBSTANCE
11:37:50 REHABILITATION, MEDICAL CARE.
11:37:53 THESE THINGS ARE ALL NECESSARY TO --
11:38:00 PLEASE CONSIDER NOT ACCEPTING THE LARGE GRANTS FROM FEMA AND
11:38:04 HOMELESS SECURITY.
11:38:08 THANK YOU.
11:38:08 >> I'M ANGEL.
11:38:10 I LIVE IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA OF TAMPA AND I AM
11:38:12 CALLING BEGUN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE PROPOSALS FOR THE CITY
11:38:18 COUNCIL MEETING AT 9:00 A.M. ON NOVEMBER 19th.
11:38:24 I CONTINUE TO LOSE FAITH IN CITY COUNCIL, MANY OF THE
11:38:33 MEMBERS ASKING FOR FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, YOU
11:38:40 KNOW, CHILD CARE, A JOBS PROGRAM, ALTERNATIVE RESPONDERS WHO
11:38:46 DO NOT WORK WITH OR PARTNER WITH THE POLICE, AND YET OUR
11:38:52 CALLS HAVE FALLEN ON CLOSED EARS.
11:38:55 SO I AM ASKING THAT YOU REJECT ALL FOUR GRANTS THAT THE
11:39:01 POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ASKING FOR.
11:39:09 VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED 24%.
11:39:12 I CALL ON YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
11:39:16 NOT THE POLICE.
11:39:17 THANK YOU.
11:39:17 >> MY NAME IS SAMANTHA SHEPHERD.
11:39:23 I LIVE IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA AND I AM CALLING ABOUT
11:39:26 THE 9:00 A.M. CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 19th.
11:39:34 AND FIRST, BEFORE I GO INTO ANYTHING, I WOULD LIKE TO
11:39:39 COMMUNICATE TO THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL THAT THEIR JOB IS
11:39:42 TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF MORE THAN JUST POLICE OFFICERS
11:39:45 AND THE POLICE UNION.
11:39:48 UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT BE
11:39:50 AWARDED APPROXIMATELY $3.6 MILLION IN GRANT MONEY.
11:39:55 USE OF FORCE HAS INCREASED 24% SINCE DUGAN HAS BEEN THE
11:39:59 CHIEF.
11:40:00 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT EXECUTED -- ON OCTOBER 20th LAST
11:40:05 MONTH, AND THE POLICE MURDER HARASS CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY IF
11:40:10 THEY ARE BLACK AND LATINO.
11:40:12 THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE EVEN MORE
11:40:17 RESOURCES TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.
11:40:23 ALSO, THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD SHOULD UNDER NO
11:40:26 CIRCUMSTANCES BE CONTINUED TO BE APPOINTED BY MAYOR JANE
11:40:30 CASTOR WHO IS A FORMER COP, AND HER BIAS ALONG WITH ANYONE
11:40:34 ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS NO PLACE IN
11:40:37 THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD PROCESS.
11:40:40 AS IT STANDS NOW, HAVING TPD CONTROL BASICALLY EVERYTHING
11:40:44 THAT CITIZENS SAYS COMPLETELY DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF
11:40:48 A CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, AND IT'S VERY TELLING THAT TPD IS
11:40:53 SO THREATENED BY OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITIES, THE
11:40:56 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE THE CASES
11:40:59 THEY INVESTIGATE AND HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS IN ORDER TO
11:41:02 ACTIVELY HANDLE POLICE MISCONDUCT AND BRUTALITY.
11:41:07 AND HISTORY HAS SHOWN US TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THE THEME
11:41:14 FOR POLICE IS MISCONDUCT AND BRUTALITY.
11:41:17 MY APPOINT POINT HERE IS I REALLY WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR AND
11:41:21 COMMUNICATE TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL THAT THEIR JOB IS TO
11:41:24 REPRESENT NOT THE VERY TINY PERCENTAGE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHO
11:41:30 IS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
11:41:33 THANKS.
11:41:35 BYE.
11:41:35 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES THE RECORDED PUBLIC
11:41:38 COMMENTS.
11:41:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:40 THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TODAY.
11:41:42 WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 68.
11:41:45 COUNCILMAN VIERA, GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:41:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR.
11:41:48 I APPRECIATE IT.
11:41:49 AND I APPRECIATE THE ACCOMMODATION, MR. CHAIR, YOUR
11:41:54 LEADERSHIP.
11:41:54 I WANTED TO TALK VERY BRIEFLY BEFORE WE HAVE SPEAKERS COME
11:41:57 UP ON ITEM NUMBER 68 AND TALK ABOUT MY RATIONALE AND WHY I
11:42:01 BROUGHT THIS ITEM FORWARD, WHY I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT NOT
11:42:05 JUST IN MY DISTRICT BUT TO ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:42:09 I MADE THIS REQUEST ABOUT A YEAR AGO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:42:13 TO PREPARE A MASTER PLAN FOR ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:42:18 THAT INCLUDES POLICE.
11:42:19 THAT INCLUDES FIRE, ET CETERA.
11:42:21 I SAW IT AND OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT THIS, THAT WE ARE DOING A
11:42:25 MASTER PLAN FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THAT WE SHOULD FOR
11:42:28 ALL PARTS OF THE CITY SHOULD HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO PARKS
11:42:32 AND RECREATION.
11:42:33 BUT WE SHOULD ALSO DO THAT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY GIVEN THE MANY,
11:42:37 MANY DEFICITS THAT WE HAVE.
11:42:38 KIND OF WHAT LED ME TO DO THIS IS WHAT I CALL THE PATCHWORK
11:42:43 DIVERSE REQUESTS THAT WOULD COME UP, PARTICULARLY FOR TAMPA
11:42:45 FIRE RESCUE.
11:42:46 WE SAW OUR FRIEND COUNCILMAN GUDES WHO IS ALWAYS SUCH AN
11:42:50 AGGRESSIVE ADVOCATE FOR HIS DISTRICT REQUEST A NEW VEHICLE
11:42:55 FOR STATION NUMBER 16 WITH THE HELP OF TAMPA THE
11:42:58 FIREFIGHTERS.
11:42:58 SOON THEREAFTER, I REQUESTED WITH THE HELP OF TAMPA
11:43:01 FIREFIGHTERS A NEW VEHICLE FOR STATION 13 WHICH I WILL BE
11:43:05 TALKING ABOUT.
11:43:06 MY IDEA IS THAT INSTEAD OF BEING REACTIVE, WE SHOULD BE
11:43:11 PROACTIVE.
11:43:12 PROACTIVE THROUGH A UNIVERSAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT TALKS
11:43:17 ABOUT ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW
11:43:22 WHERE THOSE DEFICITS ARE AND HOW TO BUILD A FINANCIAL BRIDGE
11:43:25 TO REPAIR AND ADDRESS THOSE DEFICITS.
11:43:27 I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT JUST BRIEFLY SOME STATISTICS.
11:43:30 BUT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE ISSUES, I
11:43:34 BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE HAD A PARTNER IN, NUMBER ONE, THIS CITY
11:43:38 COUNCIL, VERY PRO PUBLIC SAFETY CITY COUNCIL, AND CERTAINLY
11:43:42 IN THE ADMINISTRATION, AN ADMINISTRATION THAT KNOWS A THING
11:43:46 OR TWO ABOUT BEING A FIRST RESPONDER, RIGHT HERE OBVIOUSLY
11:43:49 WE HAVE CHIEF JOHN BENNETT WHO SERVED WITH TPD FOR MANY
11:43:53 YEARS.
11:43:53 SO WHEN I CITE THESE CHALLENGES, FOR ME I AM CALLING FOR A
11:43:58 COLLABORATIVE APPROACH, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL HAPPEN, WHICH I
11:44:01 BELIEVE WILL HAPPEN.
11:44:02 I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION ON CERTAIN ISSUES.
11:44:07 THIS SORT OF GOT BIGGER, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, IN THE LAST
11:44:11 MONTH.
11:44:12 I ALWAYS VISIT A LOT OF FIRE STATIONS AND POLICE STATIONS
11:44:14 WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ALWAYS ASK THE MEN AND WOMEN
11:44:17 THERE, I GIVE THEM MY INFORMATION AND I GO, ANYTHING THAT'S
11:44:20 UP, HERE IS MY CELL NUMBER, GIVE ME A CALL.
11:44:23 WELL, RECENTLY THE MEN AND WOMEN OVER AT FIRE STATION 13
11:44:26 WHICH SERVICE IT IS NORTH TAMPA AREA, SULPHUR SPRINGS, BUSCH
11:44:29 BOULEVARD, FOWLER, FOREST HILLS, UNIVERSITY AREA THAT I WILL
11:44:33 TALK ABOUT, REACHED OUT TO ME, AND THEY SAID, LUIS, WE NEED
11:44:37 YOUR HELP.
11:44:38 WE HELPED OUT FIRE STATION 13 WITH A NEW VEHICLE THIS YEAR
11:44:42 IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET WHICH WE PASSED NOT TOO LONG
11:44:45 AGO.
11:44:46 WE INCLUDED DESIGN MONEY FOR A NEW FIRE STATION FOR NORTH
11:44:50 TAMPA.
11:44:51 BUT MY MESSAGE IS, WE NEED HELP RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW WHICH
11:44:55 IS WHY I WANTED TO SPEAK WITH STUFF URGENCY ON THIS.
11:44:58 THE STATISTICS THAT I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT DEMAND RELIEF,
11:45:01 THEY DEMAND ACTION, THEY DEMAND IMMEDIATE ACTION ON THE PART
11:45:05 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH I AM VERY CONFIDENT, AGAIN THAT
11:45:08 COLLABORATIVE PROCESS THAT WE WILL GET TO, BUT THEY ALSO
11:45:11 DEMAND, I THINK, A RESOLUTION IN ALL OF OUR PARTS TO NEVER
11:45:15 LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN.
11:45:16 THE STATISTICS THAT I AM GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, IN
11:45:18 PARTICULAR WITH FIRE STATION 13 AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY
11:45:21 OF TAMPA, FOR ME ARE VERY, VERY TROUBLING, FOR THE REASONS
11:45:25 THEY'LL TALK ABOUT.
11:45:26 WE NEED RELIEVE RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
11:45:28 FIRE STATION 13, WHICH AGAIN SERVICE IT IS NORTH TAMPA AREA,
11:45:31 IS CLEARLY THE BUSIEST STATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BY FAR
11:45:35 AND AWAY.
11:45:36 IT'S KIND OF FUNNY.
11:45:37 I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING FUNNY A FIREFIGHTER TOLD ME.
11:45:39 WHEN I WAS THERE ON TUESDAY TALKING TO SOME OF THEM, I SAID
11:45:42 DO YOU ALL MIND IF I SAID YOU ALL TALKED TO ME?
11:45:45 THEY SAID, WHAT'S THE WORST THING THEY CAN DO TO ME, SEND ME
11:45:48 TO STATION 13?
11:45:49 KIND OF AS A JOKE.
11:45:51 PEOPLE KNOW THAT STATION 13 IS A VERY, VERY CHALLENGING
11:45:53 STATION.
11:45:54 I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT.
11:45:55 WE HAVE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT WITH MY MESSAGES.
11:45:58 WE NEED A LOT MORE RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK
11:46:01 AT THE STATISTICS IN 2019, STATION 13 RESPONDED TO IT
11:46:07 APPEARS 11,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
11:46:10 THAT'S ONE OUT OF 23 STATIONS.
11:46:13 THE ONE IN 7 CALLS CITY-WIDE CAME FROM THE RANGE OF STATION
11:46:18 13.
11:46:19 ONE OUT OF 23, BUT ONE OUT OF 7 CALLS.
11:46:23 TAKE A LOOK AT THAT DISPARITY.
11:46:25 AND THEN YOU HAVE THE NATIONAL RUN SURVEY IN 2019 FROM FIRE
11:46:29 HOUSE MAGAZINE WHICH AGAIN THESE STATISTICS ARE STARTLING.
11:46:33 THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE LIKE TO BE IN THE TOP 50, TOP 100 LIST
11:46:38 BUT OF THIS IS A DIB USE LIST THAT WE WANT TO GET OFF OF AS
11:46:41 SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:46:42 WHENEVER IT COMES TO STATION 134. IN 2019 ACCORDING TOTAL
11:46:44 SURVEY, THIS IS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FROM
11:46:48 UTAH TO CALIFORNIA TO BE MISSISSIPPI, NEBRASKA, ALL THE WAY
11:46:51 DOWN TO FLORIDA. IN 2019, STATION 13 HAD 5300 RUNS MAKING
11:46:56 IT THE 20th BUSIEST STATION IN THE UNITED STATES OF
11:46:59 AMERICA.
11:47:00 ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY.
11:47:02 IN 2019, IT WAS THE 54th BUSIEST LADDER IN THE UNITED
11:47:06 STATES OF AMERICA.
11:47:08 ENGINE 13 WAS THE BUSIEST ENGINE COMPANY WITH ABOUT 10,700
11:47:14 RESPONSES FROM JUNE 1st, 2017 TO MAY 31, 2019 ACCORDING
11:47:18 TO A STUDY GIVEN TO ME FROM THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
11:47:22 FIREFIGHTERS.
11:47:23 ENGINE 11 IS THE SECOND BUSIEST WESTBOUND 8,000 RESPONSES
11:47:27 DURING THAT TIME.
11:47:28 THINK ABOUT THAT.
11:47:31 THAT GAP BETWEEN NUMBER 1, WHICH IS STATION 13, AND NUMBER
11:47:34 2, WHICH IS, WHAT, ENGINE 11, IS ABOUT 25%.
11:47:39 25 OR 30%.
11:47:42 IF IT WAS A 5 OR 10% GAP, YOU CAN DEAL WITH THAT.
11:47:45 25 TO 30% GAP.
11:47:47 THAT GAP IS STARTLING.
11:47:49 TRUCK 13 HAS THE BUSIEST TRUCK UNIT IN THIS TIME FROM JUNE
11:47:52 OF 2017 TO THE END OF MAY 20 IS IT WITH 4600 RESPONSES, AND
11:47:57 RESCUE 13 AT THIS TIME WAS AGAIN THE BUSIEST RESCUE WITH
11:48:01 ABOUT 8100 RESPONSES.
11:48:03 THOSE STATISTICS REQUIRE NOT JUST THE LONG-TERM PLAN, WHICH
11:48:07 IS WHAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN IS ABOUT, WHICH AGAIN
11:48:10 GOES TO POLICE AS WELL AS FIRE, RIGHT?
11:48:13 BUT IT DEMANDS IMMEDIATE RESPONSES.
11:48:16 WHAT ARE THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THIS?
11:48:17 YOU HAVE UNITS NEAR STATION 13 THAT HAVE GOT TO MAKE UP FOR
11:48:24 THE DEFICIT THAT STATION 13 HAS.
11:48:27 YOU TALK TO THE MEN AND WOMEN AT 13, THEY HAVE SOME NIGHTS
11:48:30 WHERE THEY GET A CALL FOR A FIRE AT MIDNIGHT AND THEN 5, 6,
11:48:35 7, MORE CALLS THAT EVENING.
11:48:36 THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
11:48:38 AGAIN THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING TO BE A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH.
11:48:40 TAKE A LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT STATION 13 SERVES.
11:48:45 THIS IS AN AREA, AND COUNCILMAN GUDES AND I SHARE THAT AREA,
11:48:48 WE KNOW THAT VERY, VERY WELL, THAT HAS A LOT OF WORKING
11:48:52 FAMILIES, THAT HAS A LOT OF BLUE COLLAR WORKING CLASS
11:48:54 FAMILIES THAT HAS A LOT OF WORKING POOR, MEN AND WOMEN WHO
11:48:58 WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK, AT DIFFICULT JOBS, STILL LIVE IN
11:49:02 POVERTY.
11:49:03 THAT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT STATION 13 SERVES.
11:49:06 ACCORDING TO THE STUDY BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
11:49:08 FIREFIGHTERS IN 2014, 18, THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF POVERTY
11:49:12 WHEN YOU MEASURE THE COMMUNITIES THAT THE FIRE STATION
11:49:16 SERVES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, STATION 13 HAD AMONG THE
11:49:19 HIGHEST AS WELL AS THE AREAS FOR 3 AND 18.
11:49:23 THE LARGEST AREA OVERALL FOR THAT WAS THE UNIVERSITY OF
11:49:27 SOUTH FLORIDA AREA JUST NORTH OF STATION 13.
11:49:32 ABOUT ONE IN FOUR ROUGHLY OR ONE IN FOUR OF CITY OF TAMPA'S
11:49:36 CHILDREN LIVE IN POVERTY.
11:49:37 THESE ARE AREAS OFF OF BUSCH, OFF OF NEBRASKA, WHERE THAT
11:49:42 NUMBER HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED.
11:49:44 THESE ARE THE FAMILIES THAT STATION 13 SERVES.
11:49:47 AGAIN, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
11:49:49 THIS MEANS DEFICITS FOR THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
11:49:52 THESE AFFECTED FAMILIES.
11:49:54 THESE WORKING FAMILIES. THIS MEANS WAITING TIME DEFICITS
11:49:57 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:49:58 SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS AND I WILL TALK ABOUT AT
11:50:01 MOTION TIME IS RESPONSE TIMES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:50:04 YOU TAKE A LOOK AT, ACCORDING TO THE INTERNATIONAL
11:50:06 ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS STUDY THE SIX STATIONS WITH THE
11:50:10 LONGEST WAITING TIME OUT OF 6, 33647, NEW TAMPA, OCCUPIES
11:50:17 FOUR OUT OF THOSE SIX.
11:50:18 AGAIN RIGHT NEAR WHERE STATION 13 IS.
11:50:21 WE HAVE MANY, MANY OLDER STATIONS THAT NEED REPAIR.
11:50:24 AGAIN, AN UNBALANCED DISTRIBUTION OF SOURCES, OF RESOURCES,
11:50:28 ABOUT ONE IN SEVEN LIKE I SAID OF TOTAL INCIDENTS, AND ONE
11:50:31 IN FOUR UNIT RESPONSES OCCUR IN STATION 13'S FIRST ALARM
11:50:35 ZONE.
11:50:36 WITH REGARD TO THE TOTAL UNIT RESPONSE, 13 OCCUPIES ALMOST
11:50:41 ONE IN FOUR OR ABOUT 23% OF THAT.
11:50:43 AGAIN, VERY, VERY DISPROPORTIONATE OBVIOUSLY.
11:50:46 THE NEXT HIGHEST IS STATION 8 WHICH HAS 13% OF THE SHARE.
11:50:50 AGAIN, ABOUT A 10-POINT GAP.
11:50:54 THAT'S A DISPARITY THAT I THINK IS VERY, VERY SHOCKING.
11:50:56 AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT SHIFTING BURDENS.
11:50:59 THE OTHER SIDE EFFECTS OF THIS WE ARE A CITY WITH GROWING
11:51:04 NEEDS AND OUR CITY HAS GROWN BY ABOUT 20%.
11:51:07 AND LIKE I ALWAYS SAY WHEN OUR CITY GROWS AND WE GET MORE
11:51:11 MONEY FROM TAX REVENUE, WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BASIC
11:51:14 NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS, WHICH INCLUDES PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:51:17 ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I TALKED TO THE MEN AND WOMEN AT 13 AND
11:51:20 THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA ABOUT, WHICH IS THE EMOTIONAL
11:51:24 TRAUMA THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND EMS PERSONNEL DEAL WITH.
11:51:28 AND AGAIN, I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GIVE A LECTURE ON
11:51:33 THAT.
11:51:34 I AM NOT A FIRST RESPONDER, ET CETERA.
11:51:37 BUT THESE KIND OF CHALLENGES INCREASE THE EMOTIONAL TRAUMA
11:51:41 THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE TO DEAL WITH AT 13 AND
11:51:44 THROUGHOUT OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
11:51:46 THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE CERTAINLY OUGHT TO LOOK AT.
11:51:49 SO MR. CHAIR, WHENEVER THE TIME COMES UP GOING TO BE MAKING
11:51:52 A MOTION ON A COUPLE OF ISSUES.
11:51:54 FIRST I WANT TO -- I AM NOT MAKING THE MOTION NOW -- BUT TO
11:51:57 PUT IT OUT THERE WHERE I WANT TO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:52:00 UP IN ONE, AN IMMEDIATE PLAN OF ACTION FOR IMMEDIATE RELIEF
11:52:03 FOR STATION 13.
11:52:05 WE HAVE DONE THINGS OVER THE LAST YEAR, WHICH ARE GREAT
11:52:07 THINGS.
11:52:08 A NEW VEHICLE.
11:52:10 STARTING THE DIALOGUE AND DESIGN FOR A NEW FIRE STATION 24
11:52:13 TO HAVE IN NORTH TAMPA AREA.
11:52:15 I WANT SOMETHING THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN CAN LOOK TO FOR
11:52:19 IMMEDIATE RELIEF NOW.
11:52:20 WHETHER IT'S A NEW ENGINE, WHATEVER.
11:52:23 I AM NOT A FIRE PROFESSIONAL SO I AM GOING TO LEAVE THAT TO
11:52:26 PROFESSIONALS.
11:52:27 SO THEREFORE I AM GOING TO BE MAKING A MOTION THAT WE MEET,
11:52:31 THE ADMINISTRATION, MR. GRECO, MYSELF AND OTHER COUNCIL
11:52:34 MEMBERS, THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN SEPARATE MEETINGS, TO
11:52:36 HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION FOR STATION 13 PRESENTED WITHIN THE
11:52:39 NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS SO THAT WE GET A PLAN FOR RELIEF RIGHT
11:52:44 HERE AND RIGHT NOW FOR STATION 13.
11:52:46 I ALSO WANT A LONGER-TERM PLAN.
11:52:49 WE CAN DO 90 DAYS, 20 DAYS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO LOOK AT
11:52:53 INQUIRIES FOR NEW STATIONS NOT JUST IN THE NORTH AND NEW
11:52:55 TAMPA AREA, BUT AT CHANNELSIDE, SOMETHING AGAIN I AM NOT
11:52:59 GOING TO SPEAK ON.
11:53:01 THAT'S MY GOOD FRIEND COUNCILMAN GUDES DISTRICT.
11:53:05 AND MR. GRECO IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON.
11:53:07 THAT ANOTHER AREA THAT NEEDS A FIRE STATION.
11:53:09 I WANT TO HAVE A LONG-TERM PLAN THAT LOOKS AT THE NEEDS FOR
11:53:12 THESE FIRE STATIONS AS WELL AS FOR ADDRESSING RESPONSE TIMES
11:53:15 WITHIN THE NEW TAMPA AREA, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO HAVE A
11:53:20 FINANCIAL BRIDGE ON HOW TO GET THERE.
11:53:22 THESE THINGS ARE NOT FREE.
11:53:24 THEY ARE GOING TO COST MONEY.
11:53:26 I WANT THE CITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION RIGHT ON HOW ARE WE
11:53:30 GOING TO FIND THE MONEY.
11:53:31 I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THESE ARE BASIC NEEDS THAT REQUIRE
11:53:34 PROMPT AND IMMEDIATE ACTION, RIGHT?
11:53:36 AND THE ISSUE IS, HOW DO WE PAY FOR THEM?
11:53:38 I WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR THAT.
11:53:39 I WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
11:53:43 AGAIN, I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW, SOME OF OUR FIRE STATIONS ARE
11:53:46 WATCHING.
11:53:46 I KNOW THAT FIRE STATION 23, UNLESS THEY ARE CALLED OUT FOR
11:53:50 SOMETHING, IS WATCHING, FIRE STATION 13, UNLESS THEY ARE
11:53:52 CALLED OUT FOR SOMETHING IS WATCHING.
11:53:55 THE MEN AND WOMEN OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AS WELL AS THE
11:53:58 RESIDENTS THEY SERVE ARE WATCHING.
11:54:00 AND I KNOW IN WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION THAT PUTS
11:54:02 PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST, AND WITH THE CITY COUNCIL THAT PUTS
11:54:05 PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST, WE ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:54:07 BUT THOSE ARE THE MOTIONS I WILL BE MAKING AT THE END, MR.
11:54:10 CHAIR.
11:54:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:12 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU ON THOSE MOTIONS WHEN
11:54:15 THEY COME UP.
11:54:16 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:54:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:54:19 I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING, JUST THAT I LOOK FORWARD
11:54:22 TO SUPPORTING HIS MOTION.
11:54:23 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT A
11:54:27 LOT OF THE MONEY THAT WE USE FROM THE INVESTMENT TAX, WE
11:54:31 HAVE ONE MORE BITE AT IT.
11:54:32 AND IT WILL BE IN 2026 IT ENDS, AND THAT MEANS WHAT YOU ARE
11:54:37 TALKING ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE CITY AND THE AMOUNT OF
11:54:41 VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE TO SUPPLY I KNOW NOT ONLY FOR FIRE AND
11:54:43 POLICE BUT OTHER NECESSITATES IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE DO
11:54:46 PUBLIC SERVICE WITH, WILL END.
11:54:48 SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
11:54:50 AND I AM SURE THE GOOD CHIEF BENNETT, DEPUTY, IS LOOKING AT
11:54:55 THE COST THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
11:54:59 THIS IS YEARS AWAY.
11:55:00 BUT WHEN YOU PLAN FOR YEARS AWAY, YOU HAVE IT DONE RIGHT.
11:55:05 SO THIS COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY GOING FORWARD IS TO MAKE
11:55:08 SURE THAT THE MONEYS THAT ARE NEEDED TO REPLACE VEHICLES,
11:55:13 FIRE ENGINES, AMBULANCES AND OTHER VEHICLES, ARE GOING TO
11:55:17 COST AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE THE YEAR MOVING
11:55:22 FORWARD, THERE IS NO MORE IN INVESTMENT TAX AND THAT'S
11:55:27 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
11:55:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
11:55:34 I WANT TO THANK THE TAMPA FIRE UNION FOR WRITING ME THIS
11:55:39 BOOK.
11:55:40 IT'S LARGE AND AGAIN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS, YOU
11:55:44 CAN LOOK AT THOSE STATIONS FROM THE SHEET.
11:55:52 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FIRE RESCUE, TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY,
11:55:54 TALKS ABOUT DOWNTOWN, TALKS ABOUT CHANNELSIDE.
11:55:57 WE HAVE WATER HERE.
11:55:58 WE HAVE A GROWING DOWNTOWN, GROWING CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT, A
11:56:01 LOT OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS.
11:56:04 WE ARE BEHIND THE TEAMS WITH OTHER CITIES, WHEN NEW
11:56:07 DEVELOPERS COME INTO THOSE AREAS, THOSE CITIES USUALLY WORK
11:56:10 A DEAL OUT WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS TO TRY TO GET THOSE HOUSES
11:56:14 OR THOSE BUILDINGS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK
11:56:19 AT IN THE FUTURE, IF WE ARE GOING TO GETTING A -- WHICH WE
11:56:23 DO AT TIMES TO DEVELOPERS, GETTING WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS WHO
11:56:27 HAVE PLANS OR HIGH RAISES AND HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM
11:56:31 TO PUT A FIRE STATION IN THOSE AREAS.
11:56:33 IT MAY COST THE CITY A LITTLE LESS MONEY BY COOPERATING AND
11:56:37 BEING A GOOD PARTNER.
11:56:38 I THINK THAT'S A KEY FACTOR.
11:56:41 SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND UNDERSTANDS PUBLIC
11:56:46 SAFETY, THOSE FEW MINUTES ARE DECADE.
11:56:54 A PERSON GETTING CPR, A PERSON WAITING FOR A RESCUE TRUCK TO
11:56:59 GET IN, YOU CALL ON THAT RADIO, SAYING WHERE IS THE 1032?
11:57:05 WHERE IS IT AT?
11:57:06 I UNDERSTAND THE TIME.
11:57:07 AND TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
11:57:08 THAT'S WHY I FOUGHT SO HARD IN EAST TAMPA WHEN I TALKED
11:57:12 ABOUT STATION 10 WHICH IS ONE OF THE OLDEST STATIONS, THE
11:57:14 NUMBER TWO STATION IN THE CITY.
11:57:18 WHICH IS DILAPIDATED.
11:57:24 THERE'S ONLY A TRUCK.
11:57:25 BUT AGAIN, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF MR. VIERA'S MOTION AS I KNOW
11:57:29 13 IS VERY BUSY.
11:57:30 IT SERVES NORTH TAMPA WHICH MEANS THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH
11:57:35 PLUS YOU HAVE A LOT OF AMUSEMENT PARKS AND OTHER ATTRACTIONS
11:57:38 UP IN THAT AREA.
11:57:39 SO AGAIN I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
11:57:43 I KNOW THEY HAVE NEEDS.
11:57:45 AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS WOULD MIND OR BE UPSET
11:57:49 ABOUT US GOING FORWARD TO TRY TO FIND SOME IDEAS, BECAUSE
11:57:52 AGAIN WHEN YOUR FAMILY IS HURTING OR SOMEONE IS HURT, TRUST
11:57:55 ME, THEY ARE SAYING, WHERE IS THE AMBULANCE?
11:57:57 WHERE IS THE AMBULANCE?
11:57:58 AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO -- WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN ON
11:58:03 WHAT WE HAVE.
11:58:03 BUT I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER AND SOMETIMES HAVE TO HELP OUR
11:58:07 CITIZENS, THAT WE JUST NEED TO HELP A LITTLE MOWER TO GET TO
11:58:09 WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
11:58:11 SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION WHEN MR. VIERA BRINGS IT ON THE
11:58:14 TABLE BECAUSE I KNOW WE NEED PUBLIC SAFETY IN REGARDS TO
11:58:16 ESPECIALLY MEDICAL AND FIRE.
11:58:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:21 WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS FROM THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION.
11:58:23 WE HAVE OUR ACTING CHIEF.
11:58:25 WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, CAPTAIN GRECO?
11:58:30 AND THEN WE HAVE ANDREW CARTER WHO I HAVE KNOWN FOR 20
11:58:34 YEARS.
11:58:34 WE WOULDN'T TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER.
11:58:35 GOOD PEOPLE.
11:58:37 I'LL VOUCH FOR HIM.
11:58:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS LONG AS YOU WEREN'T SMOKING IN THE
11:58:47 BOYS' ROOM.
11:58:48 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:58:58 OR GOOD AFTERNOON.
11:59:00 MY NAME IS JOE GRECO AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA
11:59:03 FIREFIGHTERS LOWELL 754.
11:59:04 I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY AND I
11:59:07 APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN VIERA'S REQUEST BACK A YEAR AGO TO
11:59:10 PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL WITH REGARDS TO
11:59:16 STATISTICS ABOUT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND WHERE WE ARE AT
11:59:19 CURRENTLY.
11:59:20 I PROVIDED EACH OF YOU WITH A COPY OF THE BOOK THAT
11:59:23 COUNCILMAN GUDES HANDED OUT, WITH GEOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION,
11:59:28 EMERGENCY SERVICES CAPABILITY.
11:59:30 COUNCILMAN VIERA REQUESTED THAT FROM THE CITY BACK THEN,
11:59:33 TOO, DIRECTLY THE CHIEF AT THE TIME, CHIEF LOCICERO, AND MY
11:59:39 PRESENTATION TODAY HAS CHANGED IN LIGHT OF THE YESTERDAY
11:59:43 EVENTS.
11:59:44 BUT I AM GOING TO READ THROUGH WHAT I HAD PLANNED TO READ
11:59:47 MINUS THE OTHER STUFF.
11:59:51 TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME VALUABLE
11:59:54 INFORMATION THAT WILL ASSIST YOU WHEN MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT
11:59:56 THE NEEDS IN THE BUDGET FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:00:00 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE HAS 24 STATIONS.
12:00:03 HOWEVER TWO OF THEM ARE DESIGNATED AS CONTRACTED STATIONS
12:00:07 FOR TIA AND MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND DO NOT RESPOND
12:00:10 OUTSIDE THOSE BOUNDARIES.
12:00:12 THAT BEING SAID, 22 STATIONS RESPOND TO AN EVER-GROWING CALL
12:00:17 FOR SERVICE, APPROXIMATELY 80 TO 90,000 CALLS PER YEAR.
12:00:22 OUR CITY IS GROWING AT A RATE OF ABOUT 2% A YEAR AND TODAY'S
12:00:26 POPULATION IS AROUND 400,000.
12:00:28 THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS 114 SQUARE MILES AND 62 SQUARE MILES
12:00:33 OF WATER WHICH BEE WE PATROL THOSE WATERS WITH FIRE BOATS.
12:00:38 THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE CITIES
12:00:40 THAT HAVE OUR SAME POPULATION HAVE A MUCH DENSER CITY, SO
12:00:45 THE RESPONSE TIMES, WHICH COUNCILMAN VIERA REFERRED TO,
12:00:49 THOSE RESPONSE TIMES CAN BE HANDLED A LOT BETTER BECAUSE
12:00:52 THEIR CITIES ARE MORE TIGHTLY COMPACT AND HAVE MORE STATIONS
12:00:55 IN IT.
12:00:56 AND I WILL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE, A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A
12:01:00 MINUTE.
12:01:00 RESPONSE TIMES, RECENTLY AN AUDIT OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WAS
12:01:03 DONE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA IN WHICH IT WAS FOUND THAT WE ARE
12:01:06 NOT MEETING OUR RESPONSE TIMES GOALS.
12:01:09 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THIS.
12:01:12 LET ME SHARE JUST A FEW.
12:01:14 FIRST, WE ARE ALL LAZY FIRE RESCUE PERSONNEL AND WE DON'T
12:01:19 GET TO THE TRUCK ON TIME.
12:01:20 I ASSURE YOU THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
12:01:26 IF THAT WAS THE CASE IT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN AT ALL 24 OF
12:01:29 OUR STATIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR RESPONSE TIMES SLOW.
12:01:32 IF WE WERE ONE STATION DEPARTMENT, THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE.
12:01:35 BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
12:01:38 SECONDLY, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH UNITS TO RESPOND TO THE CALLS
12:01:42 VOLUME THAT WE ARE TAKING IN.
12:01:46 THAT MIGHT BE LIKELY.
12:01:48 WE HAVE POOR COMMUNICATION THAT EXTENDS OUR INITIAL RESPONSE
12:01:52 TIMES.
12:01:54 IT'S BEEN OVER FIVE YEARS SINCE ANY CITY OF TAMPA FIRE
12:02:00 DEPARTMENT HAS HAD ANY COMPUTER-AIDED DEVICE IN IT TO GUIDE
12:02:08 US TO WHERE THE CALL IS.
12:02:11 WE ARE USING A MAP BOOK THAT WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2012.
12:02:16 SO SIMILAR TORE WHEN YOUR HOME AND DAD USED TO GO ON
12:02:20 VACATION AND THEY WOULD GET A TRIP TIK AND HAVE A LITTLE MAP
12:02:24 BOOK WITH BOXES IN IT, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR
12:02:27 FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES.
12:02:29 EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THEIR FIRST ALARM TERRITORY, BUT WE
12:02:32 DON'T RESPOND TO JUST OUR FIRST ALARM TERRITORIES, BECAUSE
12:02:35 WE ARE SO BUSY.
12:02:38 SUCH AS STATION 13'S AREA, THE SURROUNDING UNITS SUCH AS
12:02:42 STATION 18, STATION 11, STATION 7, AND JUST ABOUT ANYBODY
12:02:46 ELSE THAT THEY CAN GET IN TO GO TO STATION 13 TO RUN A CALL,
12:02:50 THEY DO.
12:02:56 BECAUSE WE ARE SHORT OF UNITS AND WE HAVE AN OVERWHELMING
12:02:59 AMOUNT OF CALLS THAT WE RESPOND TO IN MULTIPLE ZONES AND THE
12:03:02 TERRITORY, THAT WE ARE FAR LESS FAMILIAR WITH, AND NEED FOR
12:03:07 DISPATCH SYSTEM IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
12:03:15 IN THE NEW BUDGET THERE ARE MONEYS ALLOCATED FOR A STATION
12:03:17 IN NEW TAMPA AREA.
12:03:19 THAT STATION SHOULD BE PLACED IN STATION 13 AREA IN THE
12:03:22 NORTHERN CORRIDOR.
12:03:24 25% OF ALL CALLS FOR 911 SERVICE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR IN
12:03:29 THE NORTHERN CORRIDOR ARE IN STATION 13'S FIRST ALARM
12:03:33 TERRITORY.
12:03:35 LET ME RESAY THAT.
12:03:37 25% OF ALL CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE IN
12:03:41 STATION 13, ONE STATION, FIRST ALARM TERRITORY.
12:03:47 WE HAVE ONE ENGINE, ONE TRUCK, AND NOW TWO RESCUES
12:03:50 RUNNING -- THEY TRIED TO.
12:03:53 THEY DON'T GET ALL 25% BECAUSE STATION 11, STATION 18,
12:03:56 STATION 7 HAVE TO RUN CALLS IN THEREIN, TOO.
12:04:01 WHAT'S REALLY CRAZY IS THAT THE OTHER STATIONS RUN JUST AS
12:04:04 MANY CALLS AS STATION 13'S AREA AS STATION 13 RUNS IN THEIR
12:04:09 OWN AREA.
12:04:09 THAT'S HOW MANY CALLS ARE IN STATION 13'S AREA.
12:04:12 IT'S CALLED NIGHTMARE ON ANNIE, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
12:04:18 A RESCUE WAS PLAYED IN THIS AREA A YEAR AGO AND IT'S MAKING
12:04:20 A SMALL DENT IN THE OVERWHELMING CALL LOAD AND HAS CUT
12:04:23 RESPONSE TIMES IN STATION 13'S AREA.
12:04:27 BY A SMALL AMOUNT.
12:04:28 BY A SMALL AMOUNT.
12:04:30 THE REASON WHY THIS WILL MAKE RESPONSE -- PUTTING A NEW
12:04:34 STATION UP THERE WOULD MAKE RESPONSE TIMES BETTER IS THAT
12:04:36 THE SURROUNDING STATIONS THAT RESPOND TO THAT AREA WILL NO
12:04:41 LONGER HAVE TO RESPOND AS MUCH, AND THAT WILL CUT DOWN ON
12:04:44 THOSE LONG RESPONSES FROM THOSE OTHER TERRITORIES INTO
12:04:46 STATION 13'S AREA.
12:04:48 THE CITY SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT POSSIBLY -- AND THIS WILL BE
12:04:52 UPON THE NEW FIRE CHIEF AND HER STAFF -- LOOK AT REDUCING
12:04:56 AND INCREASING SIZES OF REDISTRICTING, OF COURSE, LOOKING AT
12:05:00 FIRST RESPOND TERRITORIES AND EITHER SHRINKING OR ENLARGING
12:05:05 EXPERT RESPONSE ZONES, TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER STATIONS
12:05:09 MORE RESPONSIBILITY AND SOME STATIONS LESS RESPONSIBILITY.
12:05:16 LASTLY, A NEW STATION NEEDS TO BE BUILT IN THE WATER
12:05:19 DISTRICT.
12:05:20 IN 2006 -- AND I PROVIDED EACH OF YOU WITH A CITY OF TAMPA
12:05:24 DOCUMENT THAT WAS DONE IN JUNE OF 2006, WATER DISTRICT.
12:05:32 IF YOU WILL TURN TO 13.2.7, IT STATES CITY STAFF ALONG
12:05:36 REQUEST CONSULTANT MET WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF AND SAID,
12:05:40 AT A MINIMUM, AN EMS FACILITY WOULD BE REQUIRED GIVING THE
12:05:46 20,000 PEOPLE WHO WILL EVENTUALLY WORK AND LIVE WITHIN THE
12:05:49 AREA.
12:05:50 REMEMBER, THAT'S IN 2006.
12:05:53 THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS DONE, AND I SPOKE TO A GENTLEMAN
12:05:56 YESTERDAY THAT SAYS THE CRA IS CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH DOING
12:05:59 A NEW PLAN NOW FOR THE WATER DISTRICT.
12:06:03 THAT IS THE ONLY ONE I CAN FIND AND IT'S FROM 2006, 14 YEARS
12:06:08 AGO, LONG BEFORE ANY GROUND WAS BROKEN.
12:06:12 IT SAID THAT IT NEEDED AN EMS STATION IN THE WATER DISTRICT.
12:06:16 AND I WILL MOVE FORWARD.
12:06:20 ADDITIONALLY IT STATES WITH THE PURCHASE OF ON YOUR NEW FIRE
12:06:23 BOAT, WHICH WAS WAY BACK THEN, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A
12:06:27 FIRST IN THE DISTRICT TO PROTECT THE PORT.
12:06:31 AN ESTIMATED $5 MILLION IN THAT BOOK THAT I GAVE YOU WAS THE
12:06:35 ESTIMATED EXPENSE THAT WHOEVER WAS ON THAT COUNCIL AT THE
12:06:39 TIME ESTIMATED IT WAS GOING TO COST TO PUT THAT FIRE STATION
12:06:43 DOWN THERE.
12:06:44 I WOULD LIKE YOU ALSO TO LOOK AT 3.4.3, INSTITUTIONAL
12:06:48 ACTION.
12:06:49 THE MAGNITUDE SCALE AND IMMEDIATE NEED FOR SOME OF THIS
12:06:55 INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT MAKE THEIR COMPLETION A HIGH
12:06:59 PRIORITY.
12:07:00 I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT PUBLIC SAFETY -- AND I KNOW THAT
12:07:03 THIS BOARD DOES AND OUR STAFF DOES -- BUT WE ARE TALKING
12:07:06 ABOUT BACK IN 2006, WHAT THEY WERE THINKING.
12:07:09 I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT PUBLIC SAFETY WAS PART OF THAT
12:07:12 STATEMENT ABOUT HIGH PRIORITY.
12:07:14 ON THAT BOARD AND ON THIS ONE.
12:07:19 I AM NOT SURE IF THE CITY OF TAMPA WORKED WITH THE PORT
12:07:21 AUTHORITY OR IF THEY WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THE AREA,
12:07:26 BUT I AM SURE THAT THE WATER DISTRICT IS NEARING COMPLETION,
12:07:30 AND THERE IS NO FIRE STATION YET BUILT THERE.
12:07:36 YET EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT STRATEGIC PLAN HAS ALMOST BEEN
12:07:40 ACCOMPLISHED.
12:07:42 AND IF YOU HAVEN'T DROVE THROUGH THAT AREA, YOU SHOULD.
12:07:44 IT'S AMAZING DOWN THERE.
12:07:46 IT'S A LITTLE CITY AMONGST ITSELF.
12:07:50 CURRENTLY, FIRE RESCUE OPERATIONS IN THE WATER DISTRICTS ARE
12:07:54 BEING COVERED BY ONE STATION, STATION ONE DOWNTOWN.
12:07:59 LET ME PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU.
12:08:01 ALL OF DOWNTOWN AND HARBOR ISLAND IS PROTECTED BY STATION
12:08:06 ONE, FIRST ALARM.
12:08:08 NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T GET OTHER FIRE TRUCKS
12:08:11 TO COME INTO THE CITY, BUT FIRST ALARM TERRITORY IS ALWAYS
12:08:15 DOWNTOWN, AND HARBOR ISLAND.
12:08:18 NOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE EXPECTED, STATION ONE, THE WAY
12:08:22 QUEER CURRENTLY POSITIONED WITH, NO FIRE STATION, IN AN AREA
12:08:27 LIKE CHANNELSIDE, FOR STATION ONE TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY
12:08:31 OF ALL OF THAT AREA ALSO NOW.
12:08:37 THEIR FIRST ALARM TERRITORY IS ALL OF DOWNTOWN, HARBOR
12:08:39 ISLAND AND NOW WATER DISTRICT.
12:08:41 THIS IS INSANE TO ONLY HAVE ONE ENGINE, ONE TRUCK COMPANY,
12:08:45 AND ONE RESCUE COMPANY, FOR A TERRITORY THIS LARGE, WITH
12:08:48 THIS MANY TARGET HAZARDS.
12:08:52 IF YOU WILL TURN TO PAGE 3, 13, AND SCAN DOWN TO BULLET
12:08:56 POINTS, IN THE FIVE-YEAR GOAL, YOU WILL SEE THAT A FIRE
12:08:59 STATION WAS TO BE COMPLETED IN THE FIVE YEAR GOAL.
12:09:04 THAT WOULD HAVE PUT IT SOMEWHERE AROUND 2011 AND ABOUT FIVE
12:09:08 YEARS FROM BREAKING GROUND OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, BUT WE
12:09:11 WOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED.
12:09:13 AFTER SPEAKING TO A FRIEND OF MINE LAST NIGHT, HE SAID WE
12:09:15 ONLY HAD ABOUT 50 RESIDENTS IN 2000 IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
12:09:21 JUST A FEW YEARS LATER, WE HAVE 500.
12:09:26 NOW WE HAVE 5,000 AND SHORTLY WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 23,000.
12:09:32 IT WILL PUT IT AROUND 30,000 RESIDENTS IN A 50-ACRE AREA,
12:09:38 HIGH TARGET HAZARD, ALL THOSE BUILDINGS DOWN THERE ARE HIGH
12:09:42 TARGET HAZARDS.
12:09:45 AND WE HAVE NO FIRE PROTECTION OTHER THAN STATION ONE TO
12:09:48 PROTECT ALL OF DOWNTOWN AND HARBOR ISLAND IN THAT AREA.
12:09:59 ALSO, NOW, WHAT DEPARTMENTS AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE
12:10:04 SPACE ARE BEING BUILT.
12:10:06 THERE SEEMS TO BE CONSTRUCTION EVERYWHERE IN OUR CITY.
12:10:10 YET THERE'S NO CALL FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT ITS
12:10:13 GROWTH.
12:10:13 I HAVE BEEN HERE AS A CITY EMPLOYEE 25 YEARS.
12:10:17 WE HAVEN'T BUILT A STATION IN THE CITY PROPER SINCE 1989
12:10:21 OTHER THAN IN NEW ANNEX TAMPA.
12:10:23 THE LAST STATION THAT WAS BUILT, NUMBERED STATION, WASN'T
12:10:26 EVEN A NEW NUMBER, IT WAS WHEN THE AIRPORT USED TO HAVE TWO
12:10:30 STATIONS AND THEY SHUT ONE DOWN AND OFF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
12:10:36 THEY PUT IT TOO CLOSE TO THE ROAD AND YEARS LATER WHEN
12:10:39 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE WAS WIDENED THEY HAD TO MOVE IT BACK
12:10:42 ONTO THE PROPERTY BUT EVERY STATION WE OWN IN THIS CITY HAS
12:10:44 BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 1989 OTHER THAN TEARING DOWN OLD
12:10:49 STATIONS AND BUILDING BACK ANEW, BUT NOT A NEW NUMBERED
12:10:54 STATION SINCE 1989.
12:10:55 IF A STATION WAS CLOSED ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
12:11:00 IT'S TIME TO DETACH UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROVIDE
12:11:05 LIFE SAVING SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
12:11:07 IN SUMMARY, I WILL REQUEST -- I AM REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL
12:11:11 PUT INTO MOTION A PLAN TO BUILD TWO NEW FIRE STATIONS, ONE
12:11:15 IN THE NORTHERN CORRIDOR, AND ONE IN THE WATER DISTRICT.
12:11:19 THESE TWO STATIONS WILL CUT RESPONSE TIMES TO PROVIDE MUCH
12:11:21 NEEDED SERVICE TO THESE AREAS.
12:11:24 ALSO PROVIDE RELIEF TO THE UNITS AND EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN
12:11:28 THOSE AREAS.
12:11:29 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU MADE A MOTION, I BELIEVE, IN OCTOBER
12:11:32 OF 2019 FOR US TO PROVIDE A STRATEGIC PLAN TO COUNCIL, AND I
12:11:36 HAVE DONE THAT.
12:11:39 DOCUMENTS THAT -- THINGS THAT I SAID TODAY, I HAVE EVERY
12:11:43 DOCUMENT IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WHATEVER YOU NEED FROM ME, I
12:11:45 WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE TO YOU.
12:11:47 THAT BOOK THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU, IT LAYS OUT EVERYTHING.
12:11:51 IT WILL BUILD OUT THE ENTIRE CITY TO A 4 MINUTE RESPONSE
12:11:55 TIME IN WHATEVER TIME FRAME YOU AND THE CITY STAFF DECIDE TO
12:11:58 DO THAT.
12:11:59 BUT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO PLAY SOME CATCH-UP BECAUSE WHEN
12:12:03 WATER DISTRICT GOES LIVE AND ALL THOSE BODIES ARE IN ALL
12:12:06 THOSE RESIDENCES DOWN THERE AND ALL THAT 9 MILLION SQUARE
12:12:09 FEET OF OFFICE AND RETAIL ARE FULL OF PEOPLE IN THERE, WE
12:12:12 ARE GOING TO HAVE QUITE A FEW MORE CALLS IN THAT AREA, I
12:12:15 PROMISE YOU.
12:12:17 IT IS TIME TO HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE AND STOP
12:12:21 KICKING THE CAN.
12:12:22 I DON'T BLAME THIS COUNCIL, NOR DO I BLAME ANY OTHER
12:12:25 COUNCIL, OR THIS ADMINISTRATION OR THE LAST.
12:12:28 IT'S TIME THAT WE GET TO WORK, GET THIS THING DONE AND START
12:12:33 PUTTING THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT BACK AS A PRIORITY, AND THIS
12:12:37 CITY IS GROWING AND WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY GROWING CITIES
12:12:40 LIKE WE ARE GROWING.
12:12:41 IT'S TIME WE GET ON THE BALL AND START PUTTING THIS THING
12:12:43 BACK ON THE RAILS HERE.
12:12:45 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU
12:12:49 GIVE US, TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS.
12:12:52 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
12:12:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
12:12:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, CARLSON, THEN
12:13:00 DINGFELDER.
12:13:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS WHAT I AM DISAPPOINTED IS THAT IF
12:13:06 I GET A CALL, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE, I CAN SEE WHERE
12:13:08 THAT CALL IS ON A SCREEN AND IT CAN TELL ME WHERE TO GO.
12:13:12 YOU ARE TELLING ME AS A FIRE TRUCK OR RESCUE TRUCK ARE
12:13:15 WORKING OFF AN OLD MAP AND NOT TECH?
12:13:20 >> SIR, FIVE YEARS AGO THEY TOOK OUR COMPUTERS OFF OUR
12:13:23 TRUCKS AND SAID THAT IT WOULD BE A YEAR AND WE WOULD HAVE
12:13:25 ANOTHER TYPE OF COMPUTER IN OUR VEHICLES.
12:13:29 WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO TECHNOLOGY, NONE.
12:13:34 MY CELL PHONE IS THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE.
12:13:38 AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO JUST GO BACK JUST A SECOND AND TELL
12:13:42 YOU THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF HAS RECOGNIZED THAT ISSUE,
12:13:49 THE STAFF WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, CHIEF BENNETT AND OUR
12:13:51 WONDERFUL MAYOR JANE CASTOR, ALONG WITH YOU ALL.
12:13:54 YOU DIDN'T KNOW, BUT CHIEF BENNETT FOUND A WAY RECENTLY TO
12:13:59 PURCHASE 60 iPads.
12:14:01 THEY ARE STILL NOT ON OUR UNITS, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A
12:14:04 COMPUTER IN OUR TRUCKS OTHER THAN OUR CELL PHONES FOR OVER
12:14:08 FIVE YEARS, COUNCILMAN.
12:14:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. THE TECHNOLOGY YOU
12:14:15 HAVE, I GO DOWN AND GET A COMPUTER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
12:14:18 SOFTWARE OR WHATEVER.
12:14:19 >> MY 7-YEAR-OLD CARRIES AROUND A LAPTOP.
12:14:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF BENNETT, OUR STAFF, I KNOW REALIZE
12:14:26 THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING TO A CALL.
12:14:30 THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
12:14:32 IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
12:14:32 IF MY MOTHER IS DYING, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TO MY PARENTS'
12:14:36 HOUSE.
12:14:37 AND YOU CAN'T FIND SOMEONE'S HOUSE, OR YOU HAVE TO WORK ON
12:14:41 YOUR CELL PHONE, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
12:14:44 >> IT'S CITY POLICY TO --
12:14:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW IT IS AND CHIEF BEEN SET WORKING ON
12:14:53 THAT NOW AND IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
12:14:54 >> HE'S ALREADY WORKED ON IT AND WE ARE GOING TO GET IT
12:14:59 FIXED.
12:15:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT, FOR DOING THAT
12:15:03 BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW WHEN YOUR PARENT IS
12:15:05 SICK OR SOMEONE IS DOWN ON THE GROUND AND SHOT, WHERE ARE
12:15:09 YOU AT, WE CAN'T FIND YOU.
12:15:11 I KNOW HOW THAT SITUATION FEELS.
12:15:13 A NEW ROAD THAT I CAN'T FIND TO GET TO THAT CALL AND PEOPLE
12:15:16 ARE ASKING, SIR, THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME.
12:15:19 AND I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT PROBLEM.
12:15:21 THE SECOND THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS I TALKED ABOUT IT
12:15:24 EARLIER WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD ABOUT THESE DISTRICTS
12:15:30 DOWNTOWN, WATER, NOT HAVING SERVICES, AND THE MULTIPLE
12:15:33 PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING WITH THE GROWTH.
12:15:35 WE DO HAVE A CRA. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
12:15:37 APPROACHED OUR CRA, REFERENCE TO THAT MEETING OR NOT, BUT I
12:15:41 THINK THAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE AS WELL.
12:15:42 THE FOLKS IN THAT C BOARD ARE VERY FORWARD THINKING PEOPLE.
12:15:46 THEY HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS ON THAT BOARD, TOO.
12:15:48 I DON'T THINK THEY WILL HAVE A PROBLEM TRYING TO WORK
12:15:51 SOMETHING OUT WITH PUTTING A STATION DOWN THERE.
12:15:54 THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY AS WELL.
12:15:58 AGAIN, IF YOU ARE SAYING STATION NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE GOT TO
12:16:02 GET DOWN TO CHANNEL DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE A MAJOR FIRE, I
12:16:05 HAVE BEEN THERE.
12:16:06 AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 14 OR 15 PEOPLE, A DOWNTOWN FIRE,
12:16:11 YOU ARE GOING TO NEED WAY MORE GUYS THAN 14 GUYS TO WORK A
12:16:14 FIRE.
12:16:17 AGAIN, I KNOW YOU HAVE A CHIEF OF STAFF WHO UNDERSTANDS
12:16:22 PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WHO UNDERSTANDS ABOUT GETTING TO A CALL.
12:16:25 >> HE ABSOLUTELY DOES.
12:16:26 I APPRECIATE IT EVERY TIME I TALK TO HIM.
12:16:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY FRIEND'S FATHER WAS A POLICE OFFICER
12:16:32 IN OCALA FOR MANY YEARS AND WHEN SECOND COUNT POLICE ARE
12:16:38 MINUTES AWAY.
12:16:39 AND IT APPLIES TO THIS.
12:16:40 WHERE EVERY SECOND COUNTS, YOU CAN'T BE WASTING, WHERE DO WE
12:16:45 GO?
12:16:46 BECAUSE IT'S A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION.
12:16:48 SO ABSOLUTELY.
12:16:49 AND I AM GLAD CHIEF BENNETT ET WAS ABLE TO ALLOCATES THE
12:16:53 FUNDING FOR THE iPads.
12:16:55 THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR THAT.
12:16:56 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:16:58 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND HARD WORK
12:17:03 ON THIS AND DEDICATION.
12:17:05 >> YES, SIR.
12:17:05 >>BILL CARLSON: DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:17:08 WHEN WE FIRST MET A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU TALKED TO ME
12:17:11 ABOUT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE FIRE
12:17:15 TRUCKS ARE SUPPOSED TO LAST FIVE YEARS AND SO ARE 15, 20
12:17:20 YEARS OLD.
12:17:20 I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT JUST NOW.
12:17:22 >> IT'S NOT FIVE YEARS, SIR, IT'S TEN YEARS ON A FIRE ENGINE
12:17:26 AND 15 YEARS ON A TRUCK WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE
12:17:29 LADDERS ON TOP.
12:17:31 THEN THEY HAVE A RESERVE LIGHT.
12:17:33 SO BECAUSE -- I WILL GIVE YOU STATION 13 AS AN EXAMPLE.
12:17:37 BECAUSE OF THE SERVICE LIFE THAT IT HAS, WHEN IT'S IN USE,
12:17:45 THE DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF MAINTENANCE IT HAS DONE,
12:17:49 SERVICE HISTORY, MILEAGE, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF CATEGORIES
12:17:51 THAT GO INTO IT EITHER GOING INTO RESERVE STATUS OR STAYING
12:17:55 IN FRONT-LINE STATUS.
12:17:57 STATION 13'S TRUCK WILL NEVER MAKE -- AND IT'S ONE OF THE
12:18:01 CITY OF TAMPA'S LARGEST EXPENSES, CHARLIE MIRANDA.
12:18:08 THAT ASSET IS A MASSIVE ASSET WHICH CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD BE
12:18:11 GETTING A IT LEAST 20 YEARS OUT OF.
12:18:13 BUT BECAUSE STATION 13'S TRUCK IS ONE OF THE NEW ONES BUT WE
12:18:17 ARE RUNNING THE WHEELS OFF IT LIKE IT'S AN F-250 FOR MEDICAL
12:18:21 CALLS BECAUSE THAT AREA IS JUST SO BUSY. WE ONLY HAVE ONE
12:18:24 ENGINE TO RUN IT IN.
12:18:25 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT IT LOOKS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, DO YOU
12:18:32 INCLUDE VEHICLES IN HERE ALSO?
12:18:35 >> I DID PROVIDE CHIEF BENNETT WITH MAINTENANCE RECORDS ON
12:18:38 OUR VEHICLES UP TO DATE, MAINTENANCE, MILEAGE,.
12:18:48 >>BILL CARLSON: [INDISCERNIBLE]
12:18:52 >> SIR, WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS A PLAN.
12:18:54 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CALL TO ACTION TODAY.
12:18:57 THAT'S TO BUILD OUT THE CITY OVER A TIME FRAME WITH STAFF
12:19:03 AND COUNCIL.
12:19:06 WHAT'S IN THAT BOOK, THIS CITY, IT WON'T EVER GO OUTSIDE OF
12:19:11 THOSE BOUNDARIES.
12:19:12 THAT'S A FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.
12:19:14 NORTH TO SOUTH, EAST TO WEST, AND IN ANY DISTRICT, IN ANY
12:19:19 TERRITORY, YOU WILL HAVE A FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE.
12:19:21 ITSELF CALLS FOR 17 STATIONS.
12:19:23 THAT'S NOT WHAT'S REQUESTED. THAT'S TO BUILD OUT THE ENTIRE
12:19:26 CITY FOR A FOUR-MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.
12:19:29 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT, THOUGH.
12:19:31 WE ARE LOOKING AT AREAS CURRENTLY THAT ARE IN NEED OF
12:19:34 SERVICE THAT ARE NOT -- THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SERVICE
12:19:37 IN.
12:19:38 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PROVIDERS.
12:19:40 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIREFIGHTERS, ENOUGH ENGINE COMPANIES
12:19:43 TO PROVIDE SERVICE IN THOSE AREAS.
12:19:44 >>BILL CARLSON: [INDISCERNIBLE] WE DON'T HAVE TIME TODAY,
12:19:51 BUT ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT LIKE
12:19:54 VEHICLES OR TRAINING OR WHATEVER?
12:19:56 AND HAVE YOU ALL COME BACK, AND YOU CAN BRIEF US
12:19:59 INDIVIDUALLY.
12:20:00 BUT FOR ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED, I THINK MAKE SURE THE
12:20:05 PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.
12:20:09 >> SIR, WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO REPLACE VEHICLES.
12:20:12 YEARS AGO WE HAD A REGULAR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PLAN, I
12:20:16 BELIEVE PROBABLY BACK WHEN THERE WAS A RECESSION IN 07 OR
12:20:19 08.
12:20:19 THAT REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE THAT WAS ALWAYS REPLACING
12:20:23 A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VEHICLES.
12:20:25 THAT PLAN WENT AWAY, AND WE DO THE BEST WE CAN AS A CITY, I
12:20:30 BELIEVE AS A COUNCIL AND AS A STAFF, TO REPLACE VEHICLES AS
12:20:35 WE FIND THE MONEY.
12:20:36 LIKE I SAID, I GAVE HIM A VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.
12:20:38 WE HAVE FIRST-LINE ENGINES ON THIS JOB THAT HAVE 279,000
12:20:42 MAILS ON THEM.
12:20:44 SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES AREN'T GETTING SERVICED AS MUCH AS
12:20:47 THEY NEED TO BE BECAUSE WE CAN'T TAKE THEM OUT OF SERVICE
12:20:49 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM RUNNING CALLS.
12:20:52 SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN.
12:20:54 AND FIREFIGHTERS AND STAFF MEMBERS ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
12:20:57 I BELIEVE THEY DO THE BEST THEY CAN TO GET DONE WITH WHAT WE
12:21:00 ARE GIVEN, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
12:21:03 WE GET IT DONE AS GOOD AS WE CAN.
12:21:06 AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
12:21:12 SO THERE IS A PLAN.
12:21:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
12:21:19 AGAIN, THANK YOU THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF FIRE RES CHI FOR
12:21:23 KEEPING US SAFE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:21:26 TO STAY ON THE SAME VEIN AS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE VEHICLES,
12:21:32 STATION NINE IS THE MAINTENANCE REPAIR FOR VEHICLES IN THE
12:21:35 CITY OF TAMPA?
12:21:37 >> YES, SIR.
12:21:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULDN'T BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS, TBRS.
12:21:46 >> EMERGENCY VEHICLE TECHNICIANS.
12:21:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULDN'T IT BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO HAVE
12:21:50 ONE OR TWO MORE SPREAD OUT IN OUR DISTRICT?
12:21:52 >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE FACILITIES?
12:21:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE.
12:21:58 >> IT'S NOT REALLY IN MY LANE, BUT I BELIEVE CHIEF BENNETT
12:22:03 WILL PROVIDE YOU SOME INFORMATION.
12:22:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: INSTEAD OF TAKING A VEHICLE AND TAKING IT
12:22:08 FROM, SAY, 13 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO STATION 9 BECAUSE REPAIRS
12:22:11 WOULD BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO KEEP THAT VEHICLE WITHIN THE
12:22:14 STATION?
12:22:15 >> AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, IT CAN'T WORK LIKE
12:22:19 THAT BECAUSE THEY NEED MASSIVE LIFTS TO LIFT THESE VERY
12:22:24 HEAVY FIRE TRUCKS UP TO PROVIDE BRAKE SERVICE AND STUFF LIKE
12:22:28 THAT.
12:22:29 THEY DON'T JUST RUN OUT TO THE FIRE STATION.
12:22:31 NOW, IF WE NEED A BATTERY OR TIRE CHANGE, THEY WILL COME TO
12:22:34 OUR STATION.
12:22:35 WE DON'T GO OUT OF SERVICE FOR THINGS LINING THAT.
12:22:37 WE HAVE A PLANNED MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE THAT WE TRY TO
12:22:40 FOLLOW.
12:22:40 AND I KNOW THAT STAFF DOES THEIR BEST AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
12:22:43 TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
12:22:44 BUT WE ARE BUSY.
12:22:46 WE ARE A BUSY CITY.
12:22:47 WE RUN CALLS.
12:22:48 WE ARE NOT RUNNING CALLS, RUNNING CALLS IN OUR FIRST ALARM
12:22:52 TERRITORY BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF SERVICE.
12:22:54 SOMEBODY ELSE IS RUNNING OUR CALLS IN OUR ZONE.
12:22:56 SO WE TRY NOT TO GO OUT OF SERVICE.
12:23:01 OFFICERS ARE INVOLVED, ARE IF THEY GO OUT OF SERVICE,
12:23:05 DISPATCH HAS TO KNOW, YOUR NEXT CLOSEST STATION, YOU HAVE TO
12:23:09 NOTIFY THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING THEIR CALLS
12:23:11 AND WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW WHEN YOU ARE BACK INTO SERVICE
12:23:15 SO THEY CAN MOVE BACK TO THEIR AREA.
12:23:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT, YES,
12:23:23 CHANNELSIDE, DOWNTOWN, NEEDS ANOTHER STATION.
12:23:26 WE ARE STARTING TO GET LIMITED ON PLACES IN WHICH WE CAN
12:23:32 FIRE STATIONS TO BUILD.
12:23:33 >> YES, SIR.
12:23:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:23:38 TO MULTITASK AND PUT A FIRE STATION BELOW, SAY, A PARKING
12:23:44 GARAGE AND/OR BELOW OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS, SO WE
12:23:49 START MULTITASKING.
12:23:50 TAKE TWO STORIES, ONE FOR THE VEHICLES ON THE FIRST STORY
12:23:52 AND ONE TO HOUSE PERSONNELS AND GYMS AND WHAT ELSE ON THE
12:23:55 SECOND STORY, WHILE KEEPING OUR MEN AND WOMEN SAFE WITHIN
12:23:59 THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
12:24:00 CAN WE START THINKING ABOUT THAT?
12:24:01 >> YES, SIR.
12:24:02 WHAT I BELIEVE IS THAT WITH OUR NEW MAYOR AND OUR NEW CHIEF
12:24:07 OF STAFF, AND WITH THIS COUNCIL, I BELIEVE THAT'S NOT MY
12:24:10 LANE AND I BELIEVE THAT SOMEHOW THEY'LL FIGURE THAT OUT.
12:24:13 FIREFIGHTERS WILL GO TO WHEREVER YOU TELL US TO GO AND WE'LL
12:24:16 RUN CALLS WHEREVER YOU TELL US TO RUN CALLS.
12:24:18 BUT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH UNITS TO RUN THE CALLS THAT
12:24:21 ARE COMING IN AND WE ARE NOT SLOWING DOWN BY ANY MEANS, WE
12:24:24 ARE ONLY BRINGING MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS CITY.
12:24:27 IS THIS THING WORKING?
12:24:28 >> IT IS.
12:24:29 >> AT SOME POINT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BREAK WHERE THERE'S
12:24:32 NOT ENOUGH.
12:24:34 AND WE JUST CAN'T DO IT NO MORE.
12:24:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND.
12:24:37 >> YOU ALL UNDERSTAND IT.
12:24:39 THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN GUDES, SPOKE TO YOU
12:24:43 ON MULTIPLE INDICATIONS AND I NOTICE I SPOKE TO CHAIRMAN
12:24:47 MANISCALCO.
12:24:47 I BELIEVE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT AT SOME POINT THERE'S A
12:24:49 BREAK.
12:24:50 AND AT THAT POINT, WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND FOR MEMBERS, TO
12:24:54 STAFF A NEW STATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO
12:24:56 PROMOTE AND YOU HAVE TO HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT YOU BACK
12:25:02 FILL WITH THOSE PEOPLE CAME FROM.
12:25:03 IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THAT MANY PEOPLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM SO
12:25:07 THAT YOU HAVE -- WE ARE BEHIND THE TIMES ON PUTTING NEW
12:25:11 FTEs IN PLACE.
12:25:13 IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO RUN ENOUGH RESCUE CARS AND
12:25:16 ENOUGH TRUCK COMPANIES, THAT EVEN IF WE BUILT THE STATION,
12:25:18 WE COULDN'T STAFF IT.
12:25:20 IT'S A SLOW PROCESS.
12:25:21 BUT WE HAVE TO START THE PROCESS.
12:25:26 WE HAVEN'T BUILT A NEW NUMBERED STATION IN THE CITY PROPER
12:25:28 SINCE 1989.
12:25:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IN CLOSING, PEOPLE, WHEN I WAS
12:25:34 ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, WE WERE ALL ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
12:25:38 PEOPLE WERE ASKING THE BASIC NECESSITATES, GIVE FRESH CLEAN
12:25:43 DRINKING WATER, TAKE AWAY THEIR WASTE, AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
12:25:48 THIS CITY IS GROWING FASTER THAN WE HAVE EVER EXPECTED.
12:25:55 AND IF WE CANNOT GIVE THE BASIC NECESSITATES OF KEEPING THE
12:25:58 PEOPLE SAFE WITH POLICE AND FIRE, THEN WE ARE DOING A
12:26:02 DISSERVICE.
12:26:03 I WILL BE PROUD TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN VIERA'S MOTION.
12:26:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:09 I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND I AM NOT TRYING TO OPEN A CAN OF
12:26:11 WORMS.
12:26:12 THIS WILL BE TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF OR ANYONE ELSE.
12:26:15 I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF GRANTS GOING TO THE POLICE
12:26:18 DEPARTMENT AND I SEE THEM FOR SAFE MOTORCYCLE AND RIDER
12:26:22 TECHNIQUES OR SPEED REDUCTION FOR SAFE ROADWAYS.
12:26:24 IS THERE ANY WAY LEGALLY THAT WE ACCEPT THAT MONEY BUT WE
12:26:28 ALLOCATE IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT IS PUBLIC
12:26:30 SAFETY AND POLICE AND FIRE WORK HAND IN HAND?
12:26:33 OR IS THE STIPULATION OF RECEIVING THAT GRANT MONEY ONLY TO
12:26:36 BE DEDICATED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?
12:26:38 I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A VALID QUESTION BUT IT IS A
12:26:42 LOT OF MONEY, OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WHEN YOU ADD IT UP.
12:26:46 IF CHIEF BENNETT, IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER, ANYBODY.
12:26:49 >> I DON'T HAVE THAT.
12:26:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THE CAN HAS BEEN OPENED.
12:26:53 THE WORMS ARE OUT.
12:26:54 >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:27:05 FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE PASSION OF
12:27:11 ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND SPECIFICALLY THE TONE OF
12:27:13 COLLABORATION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, THE ADMINISTRATION
12:27:21 SUPPORTS PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE VERY REASONS THAT ALL OF
12:27:24 COUNCIL EXPRESS BUT SPECIFICALLY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
12:27:26 COUNCILMAN CITRO'S COMMENTS ABOUT BASIC SERVICES.
12:27:29 AND I HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY BUT I WANT TO ANSWER THE
12:27:32 CHAIRMAN'S QUESTION.
12:27:34 I BELIEVE AGAIN WITHOUT THE CF OOH AND GRANT'S LEADERSHIP IN
12:27:38 FRONT OF ME THAT THE STIPULATIONS APPLIED FOR IN SAID GRANT
12:27:42 NEED TO BE USED FOR THAT SPECIFIC ITEM, AND THAT SPECIFIC
12:27:45 PURPOSE.
12:27:46 MAYOR CASTOR, IN THIS BUDGET, APPROVED BY COUNCIL RECENTLY,
12:27:50 HAS EXPANDED THE GRANTS OFFICE, AND I HAVE BEEN IN
12:27:53 DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT EXPERTISE THAT
12:27:56 RESIDE, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SAFER GRANT PROCESS
12:28:01 THAT USED TO BE FOR.
12:28:02 WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY GRANTS OPPORTUNITIES.
12:28:05 I BELIEVE THAT WE GAVE AN ITEMIZATION OF THE GRANTS
12:28:10 EXPANSION IN THE BUDGET PRESENTATION OF HOW VOLUMINOUS WE
12:28:13 ARE LOOKING FOR FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND
12:28:16 RESPONSIBILITIES TO SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROWING
12:28:20 NEED OF THE CITY.
12:28:21 BUT AGAIN SPECIFICALLY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DO NOT
12:28:23 BELIEVE THAT WE CAN SHIFT MONEY ONCE WE ACCEPT ANY GRANT,
12:28:27 BECAUSE THE SCOPE OF THAT GRANT WAS PRESCRIPTIVE TO THAT
12:28:31 OPPORTUNITY.
12:28:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR.
12:28:34 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:28:35 CHIEF, DOES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE A GRANT WRITER
12:28:40 SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT KNOWS THE INSIDE
12:28:43 AND THE OUTSIDE AND MAY EVEN BE A FIREFIGHTER THEMSELVES
12:28:47 THAT KNOWS HOW TO REQUEST GRANTS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT?
12:28:50 DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC GRANT WRITER FOR THAT DEPARTMENT?
12:28:53 >>JOHN BENNETT: I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE FIRE
12:28:55 DEPARTMENT.
12:28:55 I AM NOT AWARE OF A CURRENT DEDICATED GRANT WRITER WITH THE
12:28:59 FIRE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE, WHICH THEN LIKE MOST
12:29:03 DEPARTMENTS DEFAULTS TO THE GRANTS OFFICE FOR GENERAL
12:29:06 SERVICES.
12:29:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GRECO, DOES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE A
12:29:13 SPECIFIC GRANT WRITER THAT IS EITHER A FIREFIGHTER, RETIRED
12:29:16 FIREFIGHTER, THAT KNOWS THE INS AND OUTS AND KNOWS HOW TO
12:29:20 EXPLAIN WHAT THE GRANTS ARE FOR?
12:29:22 OR ARE WE RELYING ON A CITY-WIDE GRANT WRITER?
12:29:25 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT GRANT WRITER
12:29:29 AND HE WAS ON AN 18 MONTH GRANT PERIOD, INCLUDING THE SAFER
12:29:36 GRANT.
12:29:36 I BELIEVE IT HAS NEVER BEEN AWARDED.
12:29:39 THOSE ARE WHAT WE HIRE OR NEW EMPLOYEES,.
12:29:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE WORD THERE WAS HAD.
12:29:48 DO WE NO LONGER HAD ONE?
12:29:50 >> WE HAD ONE.
12:29:51 WE CAN'T HAVE ONE.
12:29:52 WE CAN'T HAVE ONE.
12:29:55 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THE STAFF ALONG WITH THE NEW
12:29:58 FIRE CHIEF WILL BE WORKING ON.
12:30:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:30:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. VIERA.
12:30:08 >> MR. CARTER.
12:30:13 >> I WILL BE BRIEF.
12:30:14 ANDREW CARTER, VICE PRESIDENT, TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
12:30:18 I WILL BE SPEAKING MORE ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
12:30:21 AS WE CAN SEE HERE -- PERFECT.
12:30:26 FACING YOU GUYS.
12:30:27 IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO READ THE NOTES.
12:30:30 >> AND ZOOM OUT.
12:30:32 >> I AM MORE FOCUSED ON PHOTO HERE.
12:30:36 THIS IS ON PAGE 19 OF THE GIS STUDY THAT WE PROVIDED YOU.
12:30:39 AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BLUE.
12:30:40 THIS IS THE NEW WATER DISTRICT.
12:30:42 WE CAN ACTUALLY ADD A WHOLE BUNCH OF BLUE HERE TO THE
12:30:45 CONVENTION CENTER BECAUSE WE WILL SEE A LARGE GROUP WITH THE
12:30:48 TWO STORY $38 MILLION EXPANSION THAT WE WILL BE SEEING HERE.
12:30:52 ANOTHER MAP INSIDE THIS PLAN WAS ON PAGE 77.
12:30:56 THIS FOCUSES ON THE CONCENTRATION MUCH INITIAL UNIT
12:30:59 RESPONSES OVER FOUR MINUTES.
12:31:01 AND GENERAL CONSENSUS SAYS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A 4 MINUTE
12:31:07 RESPONSE TIME IN ALL DIRECTIONS.
12:31:08 THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A HEAT SIGNATURE MAP.
12:31:11 SO OBVIOUSLY IN BETWEEN STATION 11 AND 13 YOU SEE A HOT
12:31:14 ZONE.
12:31:15 THAT MEANS WE HAVE A LONGER THAN 4 MINUTE RESPONSE TIMES.
12:31:19 AND THEN APPROACHING THIS DOWNTOWN AND YBOR AREA OF THE
12:31:21 STATION.
12:31:22 REMEMBER, THIS IS PRIOR TO RESIDENTS, OFFICE WORKERS AND
12:31:26 HOTELS BEING OCCUPIED INSIDE THIS WATER DISTRICT.
12:31:32 THIS IS MAP 27, I BELIEVE ON PAGE 77 OR 78 OF THE GIS STUDY.
12:31:37 I WILL PUT IT DOWN HERE FOR YOU.
12:31:39 THE RED DOTS ARE THE CURRENT FIRE STATIONS INSIDE THE CITY.
12:31:42 TWO A -- TO ACHIEVE THIS 1710 COMPLIANCE OF FOUR MINUTE
12:31:47 RESPONSE TIMES IN ALL DIRECTIONS ALL THE BLUE DOTS WOULD BE
12:31:49 NEW FIRE STATIONS.
12:31:51 THAT'S 17 NEW STATIONS.
12:31:52 YOU HAVE HEARD THAT BEFORE.
12:31:53 BUT ONE OF THE NOTES ON THIS PAGE SAYS ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT
12:31:56 ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO DEVELOP AND STAFF A LARGE NUMBER OF
12:32:00 FIRE STATIONS ALL AT ONCE, THESE RESULTS CAN BE USED AS A
12:32:04 ROAD MAP TO WHERE FUTURE FIRE STATIONS SHOULD BE DEVELOPED
12:32:06 IN THE CITY IN THE FUTURE.
12:32:08 IN ADDITION, THIS TYPE OF ANALYSIS SHOULD BE UPDATED FOR THE
12:32:11 GROWTH, DEVELOPMENT AND DEMAND OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
12:32:13 SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, THIS
12:32:16 IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO GET TO.
12:32:19 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THIS OVERNIGHT.
12:32:20 BUT YOU ASKED FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN.
12:32:22 THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS CREATED THIS
12:32:24 PLAN FOR US.
12:32:25 THIS IS TAMPA SPECIFIC.
12:32:28 OFF OF CENSUS DATA, GIS OVERLAY MAPS, DEAD-END ROADS,
12:32:33 RAILROADS, AND WEDNESDAY AT 5:00. SO THEY DISCLOSE ALL OF
12:32:37 THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT.
12:32:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.
12:32:48 >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRICKLE DOWN COVERAGE, WHEN STATION 13
12:32:51 IS OUT ON ANOTHER CALL, STATION 11 RESPONDS, I CAN SPEAK
12:32:55 FIRST HAND TO THIS, FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS OF MY 13 YEAR
12:32:58 CAREER I HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO STATION 13 OR 11.
12:33:02 WHEN 13 IS OUT STATION 11 RESPONDS INTO THEIR TERRITORY.
12:33:06 WHEN A CALL COMES INTO STATION 11th TERRITORY, 12
12:33:09 RESPONDS TO 11, 9 RESPONDS TO 12, 8 HAS TO RESPOND TO 9'S
12:33:13 TERRITORY.
12:33:15 SO WHAT THIS SHOWS IS ACROSS THE ANGLE IS HOW MANY CALLS THE
12:33:19 ENGINE RAN IN THEIR OWN TERRITORY.
12:33:22 THEN IT SHOWS WHO CROSSED STAFFS.
12:33:24 SO ENGINE 11, 1226 CALLS IN 13'S TERRITORY, SO WHEN ENGINE
12:33:30 11 IS OUT, 12 HAS TO COME INTO 11th TERRITORY.
12:33:34 THEN ENGINE 9 HAS 20 COME INTO 12'S TERRITORY.
12:33:38 8 HAS TO GO INTO 9.
12:33:39 THEN 3 ALSO HAS TO TRAVEL INTO 9.
12:33:41 SO THIS DISCLOSES THE UNIT RESPONSES PER FIRST ALARM
12:33:45 TERRITORY.
12:33:45 SO IT BREAKS DOWN THE TOTAL RUN NUMBERS INTO WHERE THEY ARE
12:33:49 RESPONDING TO.
12:33:52 ASKING FOR RELIEF IMMEDIATELY.
12:33:54 WE NEED TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
12:33:58 IT TAKES YEARS FOR A STATION TO DEVELOP, WITH DESIGN,
12:33:59 CONSTRUCTION, THEN ULTIMATELY THE RIBBON CUTTING.
12:34:03 PALARIUM TOWNSHIP, OHIO, AND MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA, UTILIZE
12:34:08 EXISTING STRUCTURES, RETAIL OFFICE SPACE. THE CITY WOULD
12:34:09 START LEASING SPACE AND DEVELOPING IT INTO AN INHABITABLE
12:34:10 ENVIRONMENT, HAVING A BATHROOM, A DORMITORY AND OFFICE.
12:34:15 THEY WOULD FENCE OFF A PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT AND PLACE
12:34:17 UNITS IN SERVICE IMMEDIATELY.
12:34:19 THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE LONG-TERM GOAL, BUT IF YOU WANT
12:34:22 IMMEDIATE RELIEF, WE CAN RENT AN OFFICE SPACE SOMEWHERE IN
12:34:25 THE FOWLER NEBRASKA AREA OR NEAR THE BUSCH BOULEVARD
12:34:28 CORRIDOR AND FLORIDA.
12:34:29 YOU ARE HAVING TRAFFIC AVAILABILITY IN ALL FOUR DIRECTIONS
12:34:32 FOR RESPONSES.
12:34:33 WE NEED TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THAT BOX FOR IMMEDIATE,
12:34:36 BUT THIS LONG-TERM GOAL NEEDS TO REMAIN.
12:34:40 IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A MID TO LONG-TERM STRATEGIC PLAN,
12:34:44 I FEEL WE NEED ONE STATION A YEAR FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
12:34:47 AND THAT'S FINANCE WE DON'T CONTINUE GROWING.
12:34:49 BECAUSE IF WE ARE NOT ADDING FIRE STATIONS TO THE CITY, THE
12:34:53 CITY IS NOTE STANDING STILL.
12:34:55 WE ARE MOVING BACKWARDS, BECAUSE THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY AS
12:34:58 WE ALL KNOW IT IS TREMENDOUS.
12:35:00 SO IN CLOSING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, AS USUAL, THANK YOU FOR
12:35:03 YOUR TIME, YOUR INTEREST AND YOUR PASSION TO KEEP MOVING
12:35:06 TAMPA FORWARD.
12:35:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:35:07 ANY QUESTIONS?
12:35:08 IF NOT WE WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR HIS MOTION, AND
12:35:11 THEN WE WILL CLOSE IT OUT AND BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:35:13 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEW FIRE
12:35:17 CHIEF, OR CHIEF BENNETT, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
12:35:21 >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:35:30 I WILL BE VERY BRIEF AND THEN INTRODUCE OUR INTERIM FIRE
12:35:33 CHIEF.
12:35:34 FIRST OF ALL, THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR NOT ONLY IS CONCERNED
12:35:39 ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY BUT SHE SPECIFICALLY PUT SUSTAINABILITY,
12:35:43 RESILIENCE FOR EQUITABLE DELIVERABLE SERVICE ITSELF
12:35:47 THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS PART OF HER STRATEGIC PLAN.
12:35:49 AND WE SHARED THAT DURING THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.
12:35:54 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THE 35 YEAR HISTORY OF PUBLIC SAFETY,
12:35:57 I HAVE ALWAYS BOILED IT DOWN TO SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT'S NOT
12:36:01 NECESSARILY EASY.
12:36:02 NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND
12:36:04 WELFARE OF THE STAFF.
12:36:05 THEY ARE THE ONES DELIVERING THAT PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE TO
12:36:07 THE COMMUNITY.
12:36:08 NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TO DEFINE A LEVEL OF SERVICE.
12:36:11 AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE UNION IS CONVEYING TO COUNCIL,
12:36:14 AND COUNCIL IS EMBRACING AND I WILL BE WORKING WITH THE
12:36:18 STAFF OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO UNDERSTAND AND HELP DEPLOY
12:36:22 THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
12:36:23 THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF A GROWING COMMUNITY.
12:36:26 AND THEN LASTLY, WE WANT TO MAKE IT EQUITABLE WHICH I
12:36:30 MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD DESERVE IT IS
12:36:33 SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE. WE DID THAT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT,
12:36:35 REDUCING CRIME IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, 80% OVER 17 YEARS.
12:36:40 WE CAN DO THE EXACT SAME THING IN THE FIRE SERVICE WITH THIS
12:36:43 COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED TODAY.
12:36:44 SO WE STAND BY READY TO SUPPORT THE MAYOR IS ENTHUSED OVER
12:36:50 THE TIMES THAT SHE'S TOUCHED THREE FISCAL YEARS, 2019, 2020
12:36:54 AND 2021 WITH THE HELP OF COUNCIL, $37 MILLION INTO THE FIRE
12:36:58 DEPARTMENT IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, AND VEHICLES, PERSONNEL,
12:37:04 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
12:37:05 BUT TO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S POINT EARLIER, IN THIS REACTIONARY
12:37:10 MODE, I NOT GOING TO KEEP UP AND CATCH UP WITH THE THINGS
12:37:12 THAT WE HEARD TODAY.
12:37:14 SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEWLY APPOINTED
12:37:18 INTERIM FIRE CHIEF, BARBARA TRIPP, WHO WAS NAMED BY MAYOR
12:37:24 CASTOR YESTERDAY IN THIS INTERIM ROLE.
12:37:27 WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HER LEADERSHIP.
12:37:29 BARBARA.
12:37:29 >> BARBARA TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:37:35 FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK HERE.
12:37:38 AND OF COURSE I HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
12:37:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE.
12:37:45 >> SORRY.
12:37:45 I HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
12:37:47 I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
12:37:55 GET THE STUFF WE NEED FOR OUR PERSONNEL, FOR OUR CITIZENS AS
12:37:59 WELL AS OUR EMPLOYEES.
12:38:00 OF SCORES, I DO HAVE HISTORY WITH STATION 13, AND I AM
12:38:06 LOOKING TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO
12:38:09 SERVE THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS TAMPA CARE OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICE
12:38:12 WORKERS.
12:38:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
12:38:20 TODAY I BELIEVE IS A GREAT MOMENT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:38:23 YOU KNOW, WE USE THE TERM INTERIM.
12:38:26 BUT TO HAVE AN AFRICAN AMERICAN FEMALE BE THE FIRST IN
12:38:31 FLORIDA IS A HISTORICAL DAY TODAY.
12:38:34 SO I JUST DON'T LOOK AT THAT WORD INTERIM.
12:38:38 I WILL BE SAYING FIRE CHIEF UNTIL SOMETHING OFFICIAL,
12:38:41 SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
12:38:42 BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT THE
12:38:45 YEARS, AND THANK THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE MAYOR, WHICH I
12:38:47 HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WITH ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SEVERAL
12:38:50 TIMES, AND MAKE MENTIONED YOUR NAME SEVERAL TIMES TO LEAD
12:38:55 THIS DEPARTMENT.
12:38:56 FOR ME FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART I WISH YOU WELL, I KNOW
12:38:59 YOU ARE GOING TO DO WELL, AND I AM VERY PROUD TO SEE THIS
12:39:03 MOMENT, AND I SHARE THE COMMITMENT OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO
12:39:06 MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA AND OUR WORKFORCE DIVERSE, AND WE
12:39:09 HAVE BEEN DOING IT, AND I APPLAUD YOU AND THE MAYOR FOR
12:39:12 DOING IT.
12:39:12 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND CONGRATULATIONS.
12:39:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:39:16 I ECHO WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID.
12:39:19 IT IS CERTAINLY AN HISTORICAL DAY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
12:39:22 WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
12:39:23 AND DO YOU HAVE A STELLAR REPUTATION.
12:39:25 I HAVE HEARD IT FROM MANY, MANY PEOPLE.
12:39:28 SO KNOW THAT YOU ARE VERY MUCH ADMIRED FOR YOUR HARD WORK
12:39:31 AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
12:39:33 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:39:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:39:35 ANYBODY ELSE?
12:39:36 IF NOT WE GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND WE'LL CLOSE IT OUT.
12:39:39 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE ACCOMMODATION.
12:39:41 AGAIN BEFORE I MAKE THIS MOTION, THIS IS SEWING LIKE I SAID
12:39:45 THAT IS DONE IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY.
12:39:46 THIS ISN'T VIERA THROWING DOWN A GAUNTLET SAYING, LOOK AT
12:39:51 THIS.
12:39:51 THIS IS US WORKING TOGETHER FOR A PROBLEM LIKE WE HAVE DONE
12:39:53 ON SO MANY ISSUES.
12:39:55 SO I AM PROUD TO WORK WITH OUR FRIEND IN THE ADMINISTRATION
12:39:58 ON THIS WHO KNOW A MILLION TIMES MORE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY
12:40:02 THAN THIS LAWYER DOES.
12:40:05 SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS HERE AND I WILL
12:40:08 JUST PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER.
12:40:09 NUMBER ONE, I MOTION -- AND WE CAN PICK A DATE FOR THIS --
12:40:12 IN THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS, THE ADMINISTRATION COME BACK
12:40:14 AFTER CONSULTING WITH -- I WILL NAME MYSELF, IF I MAY -- FOR
12:40:21 FIRE STATION 13, FOR RELIEF, IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR FIRE
12:40:26 STATION 13.
12:40:28 SECOND, AND THAT COMES TO WHATEVER THE REMEDY MAY BE, AN
12:40:34 ENGINE.
12:40:34 WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
12:40:35 AND OBVIOUSLY IN CONSULTATION WITH 754.
12:40:38 SECONDLY TO COME BACK IN A MOTION IN 90 DAYS WITH A REPORT
12:40:42 ON REMEDYING WAITING TIMES.
12:40:45 AND AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNIQUE TO NEW TAMPA
12:40:50 SINCE FOUR OUT OF THE SIX STATION WAS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF
12:40:53 WAITING TIMES COME INTO THE NEW TAMPA AREA.
12:40:55 ADDITIONALLY WITH A PLAN OF ACTION FOR STATIONS IN NEW
12:40:58 TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, CHANNELSIDE, AND THEN WITH DISCUSSION ON
12:41:04 A MONETARY PATH ON HOW TO GET THERE, WHATEVER THAT PATH MAY
12:41:07 BE SO WE CAN EVALUATE ALL THE MORE OPTIONS FOR THAT, BECAUSE
12:41:12 THIS IS -- UNLESS WE WIN THE LOTTERY, THIS ISN'T FREE.
12:41:15 AND THEN THIRD, I DO WANT TO COME BACK AGAIN FOR A MASTER
12:41:20 PLAN VISION I.DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD
12:41:23 NEED FOR THAT, FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND FOR TAMPA POLICE
12:41:26 DEPARTMENT.
12:41:28 SO THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY ALL OF OUR DEFICITS WITHIN THE CITY
12:41:31 OF TAMPA, AND THEN AGAIN KNOW FINANCIALLY HOW TO BRIDGE
12:41:36 THEM.
12:41:36 CHIEF BENNETT, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO OPINE ON
12:41:40 THOSE PROPOSED TIMES.
12:41:41 >>JOHN BENNETT: WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, COUNCILMAN, IS
12:41:43 MAYBE A WORKSHOP IN MARCH.
12:41:45 THAT WOULD BE THE MIDPOINT OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, AND IT WOULD
12:41:48 GIVE CHIEF TRIPP AND THE STAFF A CHANCE TO WORK TOGETHER ON
12:41:51 IT.
12:41:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
12:41:55 I WILL MAKE THE MOTION FOR A WORKSHOP IN MARCH.
12:41:57 HOWEVER, I WILL STAY WITH THE FIRST ONE ON -- WHAT ARE WE
12:42:03 IN, MID NOVEMBER?
12:42:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FIRST ONE, DO YOU WANT TO BRING IT
12:42:07 JANUARY 14th UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
12:42:10 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DORK THAT.
12:42:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
12:42:16 I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO TAKE THOSE MOTIONS SEPARATELY SO
12:42:20 THE CLERK CAN HAVE THEM, AND BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FRANKLY
12:42:24 DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTERS HAVE DIFFERENT DATES.
12:42:27 AND ALSO, YOU HAD MENTIONED YOURSELF PERSONALLY.
12:42:30 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR THE FIRST ONE.
12:42:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST TO ASK YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT
12:42:37 BECAUSE IF THIS COUNCIL DELEGATES YOU TO DO SOMETHING IT MAY
12:42:41 CREATE --
12:42:42 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SAY IN COOPERATION WITH COUNCIL.
12:42:44 AND I WOULD REQUEST, SINCE YOU ARE ALWAYS SHARING
12:42:48 BOUNDARIES, I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS, BUT FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES
12:42:51 TO SECOND IT SINCE IT'S SHARED BOUNDARY.
12:42:55 SO IF YOU ARE SO AMENABLE, SIR.
12:42:58 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:42:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE THEM STRATEGICALLY AND INDIVIDUALLY.
12:43:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:43:04 MY FIRST MOTION IF I MAY IS TO COME BACK ON THE FIRST
12:43:07 MEETING IN JANUARY OF 2021 WITH A PLAN OF ACTION FOR RELIEF
12:43:11 RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW.
12:43:12 WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE MOTION FOR FIRE STATION 13.
12:43:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
12:43:16 >>> 14th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:43:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:43:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA
12:43:20 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
12:43:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:43:24 ANY OPPOSED?
12:43:25 NEXT.
12:43:26 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT IS FOR A WORKSHOP.
12:43:28 AND I WILL COMBINE THESE.
12:43:30 A WORKSHOP ON PUBLIC SAFETY --
12:43:34 >>> MARCH 25?
12:43:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MARCH 25th, BUT NOT LIMITED TO
12:43:38 THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.
12:43:39 NUMBER ONE, WAITING TIMES, FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, INCLUDING
12:43:42 WITHIN THE NEW TAMPA AREA.
12:43:45 THE BUILDING OF ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS IN NEW TAMPA, NORTH
12:43:48 TAMPA, NEXT TO STATION 13 AS WELL AS CHANNELSIDE, AND THEN A
12:43:52 MONETARY PATH OR BRIDGE ON HOW TO GET THERE.
12:43:55 >> SECOND.
12:43:57 >>LUIS VIERA: ADDITIONALLY, IF I MAY, FOR THE CITY TO
12:43:59 DISCUSS A MASTER PLAN, WHICH I KNOW DOESN'T HAPPEN
12:44:03 OVERNIGHT, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:44:05 SO I'M THINKING OF A MASTER PLAN.
12:44:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND THE MOTION.
12:44:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:44:11 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:44:13 DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:44:16 COUNCILMAN CITRO WAS THE SECOND.
12:44:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION BUT I WOULD
12:44:21 ADD -- AND MR. SHELBY, YOU TELL ME -- I KNOW WE ARE TALKING
12:44:26 ABOUT A WORKSHOP.
12:44:27 WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE TO POSSIBLY HAVE THE DOWNTOWN, OUR CRA
12:44:33 DIRECTOR, BE AT THAT WORKSHOP?
12:44:35 BECAUSE MAYBE CRA MAY BE INVOLVED IN A COUPLE OF THOSE PLANS
12:44:37 WITH CHANNELSIDE DOWNTOWN.
12:44:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE
12:44:41 MOTION YOU CAN.
12:44:42 CERTAINLY EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE RIGHT TO INVITE
12:44:45 WHOEVER THEY QUICHE TO, TO ATTEND IS THE WORKSHOP, AND UNDER
12:44:48 THE RULES YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THAT PERSON TO BE ABLE
12:44:50 TO PARTICIPATE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:44:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO ASK MR. VIERA.
12:44:57 >>LUIS VIERA: I AM SO AMENABLE.
12:44:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 25th, A WORKSHOP SESSION AT
12:45:02 9:00 A.M.
12:45:02 THE STATED MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH THE
12:45:05 INVITATION OF CRA REPRESENTATIVE, THE MOTION WAS SECONDED BY
12:45:11 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
12:45:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:45:13 ANY OPPOSED?
12:45:15 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:45:17 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING SIR.
12:45:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLARIFICATION FROM MR. GUDES.
12:45:20 WHO SPECIFICALLY, OR WHICH SPECIFIC CRA FOR PURPOSES OF THE
12:45:23 MOTION?
12:45:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD SAY THE CRA DIRECTOR HIMSELF.
12:45:27 >> MS. VAN LOAN.
12:45:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO TAP BACK TO MR. STOLTENBERG, WHO IS
12:45:35 WITH THE DOWNTOWN -- TO TAKE IT BACK TO MR. STOLTENBERG.
12:45:41 BUT AS LONG AS SHE'S HERE TO BRING THAT INFORMATION FORWARD
12:45:47 TO THE WORKSHOP.
12:45:48 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, WITH THE EXPECTATION OF THE
12:45:51 WORKSHOP THAT PROPOSALS WILL BE BROUGHT FORD BY THE
12:45:54 ADMINISTRATION WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL, WORKING WITH 754
12:45:57 ON THE AFOREMENTIONED ISSUES THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
12:46:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT.
12:46:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:46:02 DID YOU GET THAT, CLERK?
12:46:04 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 2:00.
12:46:06 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
02:00:17
02:20:52 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
02:23:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
02:23:56 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
02:23:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
02:23:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
02:24:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
02:24:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
02:24:03 ALL RIGHT.
02:24:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, IF THE CLERK CAN JUST ANNOUNCE
02:24:08 THAT THERE'S A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
02:24:11 >>THE CLERK: YES, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
02:24:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:24:14 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS,
02:24:17 9:30 A.M. AND 10:30 A.M.?
02:24:19 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:24:21 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
02:24:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:24:23 ALL RIGHT.
02:24:23 BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO LOSE ONE OF OUR MEMBERS, I WOULD
02:24:28 LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET 56 AND 57 OUT OF THE WAY, BECAUSE
02:24:31 THESE WERE CONTINUED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A FULL QUORUM.
02:24:38 WERE THE COUNCILMEN WHO WERE NOT HERE ABLE TO WATCH THE
02:24:43 VIDEO AND LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONY, UNION STREET AND
02:24:46 MISSISSIPPI?
02:24:47 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, ADEQUATELY PREPARED.
02:24:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU PREPARED TO VOTE ON THOSE TWO AS
02:24:54 WELL?
02:24:55 ACKNOWLEDGE FOR THE RECORD.
02:24:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE'LL START WITH NUMBER 56.
02:25:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CLERK A
02:25:04 LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, A LITTLE BIT OF PROCEDURE ON THAT,
02:25:08 TO PROCEED ON WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE.
02:25:09 >>THE CLERK: THESE TWO ITEMS WERE MOVED FORWARD -- NUMBER
02:25:15 56 AND 57 WERE CONTINUED DUE TO NOT ENOUGH VOTES TO VOTE FOR
02:25:19 3-2 WITH DINGFELDER AND CARLSON VOTING NO ON THOSE ITEMS.
02:25:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: RULE 6-H, MOTION IN QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS
02:25:32 FAILS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST FOUR VOTES THE MOTION FAILS AND IF
02:25:35 ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL
02:25:38 AUTOMATICALLY BE REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO A TIME CERTAIN AT
02:25:40 THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING, THAT BEING THE
02:25:43 CASE.
02:25:44 I SHOULD POINT OUT ALSO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, THE
02:25:47 PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS MEETING, OF THESE HEARINGS,
02:25:51 WERE CONDUCTED LAST THURSDAY NIGHT AND THE PUBLIC HEARING
02:25:54 PORTION WAS CONCLUDED.
02:25:56 SO THIS IS THE FIRST READING.
02:26:00 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS WOULD
02:26:02 HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS AT SECOND
02:26:06 READING, ASSUMING THAT THESE DO GO FORWARD, WHICH WILL BE
02:26:09 ANNOUNCED BY THE CLERK.
02:26:10 WITH THAT BEING SAID AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE
02:26:13 PREPARED TO VOTE, IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION?
02:26:16 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE --
02:26:20 >>> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:26:22 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE THING, I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE MY
02:26:25 COMPUTER STARTED SPINNING AND IT'S NOT SHOWING UP ANYMORE,
02:26:30 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO --
02:26:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THAT?
02:26:33 I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
02:26:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID MY LAPTOP DOES NOT HAVE VIDEO
02:26:37 RUNNING ANYMORE, IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
02:26:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WE ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE.
02:26:48 ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
02:26:51 ROOM?
02:26:52 OKAY.
02:26:52 >>BILL CARLSON: IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME IF YOU GUYS DON'T
02:26:57 CARE.
02:26:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
02:27:02 YOU ARE NOT ON VIDEO, IS THAT CORRECT?
02:27:04 >>BILL CARLSON: RIGHT.
02:27:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE PROCEED WITHOUT IT?
02:27:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE DO HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
02:27:14 AND HE IS NOTICED AS BEING PRESENT ON THE VIDEO ITSELF.
02:27:18 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. HAYDEN?
02:27:20 THE ANSWER IS YES.
02:27:22 SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE ON CAMERA, ALBEIT AT A
02:27:27 DISTANCE, BUT YOU ARE PRESENT.
02:27:30 AND YOU HAVE BEEN SO NOTICED BY THE CLERK.
02:27:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE'S UP THERE.
02:27:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN, OF CITY
02:27:36 COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
02:27:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I JUST GET FROM THE CLERK, WHAT WAS
02:27:41 THE VOTE ON 56?
02:27:44 >>THE CLERK: ON 56 IT WAS A 3-2 VOTE WITH DINGFELDER AND
02:27:48 CARLSON VOTING NO AND VIERA AND GOODS BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:27:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:27:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE I AM VOTED NO ON THAT ITEM.
02:27:57 I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK I DID.
02:27:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK YOU VOTED YES TO MOVE IT
02:28:02 FORWARD TO DO.
02:28:03 I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
02:28:05 SO --
02:28:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
02:28:09 SUBSTANTIVELY, I REMEMBER BEING FOR THIS AND YOU WERE
02:28:14 AGAINST IT.
02:28:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
02:28:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT.
02:28:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT SHOULD BE IF THAT'S -- WE
02:28:21 CAN GO BACK TO THE RECORD.
02:28:25 BUT OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS THE VOTE THAT COUNTS.
02:28:27 THE LAST VOTE FAILED.
02:28:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS
02:28:31 STRAIGHT.
02:28:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
02:28:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 56.
02:28:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 56, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS,
02:28:38 THEN WHAT'S IN ORDER IS A MOTION TO CLOSE AND WHATEVER
02:28:40 MOTION IS APPROPRIATE OF COUNCIL.
02:28:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM 56?
02:28:45 >> SO MOVED.
02:28:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
02:28:47 DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO, I BELIEVE.
02:28:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:28:52 ALL RIGHT.
02:28:52 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS?
02:28:54 COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR 56.
02:28:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
02:29:02 I READ AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
02:29:04 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
02:29:06 VICINITY OF 3305 WEST UNION STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
02:29:10 FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
02:29:12 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
02:29:14 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
02:29:17 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:29:19 >> SECOND.
02:29:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
02:29:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
02:29:25 AND I WAS TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE WE CLOSED THE
02:29:28 PUBLIC HEARING.
02:29:29 THIS WAS THE ONE AS I RECALL THAT WAS LIKE A 49-FOOT?
02:29:36 >> YES.
02:29:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INSTEAD OF THE 50 THAT THEY NEEDED.
02:29:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT --
02:29:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
02:29:45 THAT'S ENOUGH CLARIFICATION.
02:29:46 I APPRECIATE IT.
02:29:50 CHRIST, I'M TRYING TO RECALL.
02:29:52 THANK YOU.
02:29:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:29:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
02:29:55 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:29:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:29:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:30:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:30:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:30:05 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:30:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:30:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
02:30:10 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND MIRANDA VOTING
02:30:13 NO.
02:30:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:30:16 >> SECOND READING ON DECEMBER 17th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
02:30:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIR, DID YOU HEAR THAT?
02:30:26 SEPTEMBER 17th IS SECOND READING.
02:30:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS
02:30:30 AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, IF THEY HAVE CALLED IN TODAY, EVEN
02:30:34 THOUGH THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT TAKEN ON THIS, THEY DO HAVE
02:30:36 THAT OPPORTUNITY ON THE 17th OF DECEMBER AT 9:30 A.M. OR
02:30:44 SOMETIME THEREAFTER.
02:30:46 THANK YOU.
02:30:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:30:48 ITEM NUMBER 57.
02:30:51 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
02:30:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO.
02:30:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:30:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. PRESSMAN.
02:31:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU GOING TO BE ELICITING TESTIMONY
02:31:09 FROM HIM?
02:31:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:31:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF HE COULD BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.
02:31:13 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
02:31:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOING TO ASK MR. PRESSMAN THIS AND
02:31:23 PERHAPS ONE OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH
02:31:28 MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:31:30 THERE WAS AN INDICATION OF SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN YOU AND
02:31:34 THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AS RELATED TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS
02:31:37 THEY HAD RELATED TO THIS APOLOGIZE. WERE YOU ABLE TO GET
02:31:44 TOGETHER WITH THEM, AND YOUR ENGINEER, AND MAKE ANY
02:31:47 PROGRESS?
02:31:47 >>TODD PRESSMAN: [OFF MICROPHONE] YES, COUNCILMAN.
02:31:58 WE DID HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER -- WHICH HAS BEEN RECENTLY
02:32:09 COMPLETED.
02:32:10 [OFF MICROPHONE]
02:32:11 WE HAVE HAD MANY BETWEEN US, WE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH
02:32:20 THE NEIGHBORS, KIM AND DONALD WHO ARE HERE, LONG
02:32:25 DISCUSSIONS, IN SOME CASES, ABOUT 45 MINUTES.
02:32:29 SO CAME UP WITH A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS.
02:32:34 KIM AND DONALD, THEY WERE NOT ACCEPTABLE, ADDRESSED THEIR
02:32:41 CONCERNS, AND I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT THE SITE NEXT DOOR,
02:32:49 SOUTH OF US, AND DID FIND, OR THEIR OPINION WAS THAT SOME OF
02:32:54 THAT DRAINAGE, THE SWALES WERE SUFFICIENT ON THAT SITE.
02:33:03 SO FOLLOWING THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, WE DID LOOK AT IT.
02:33:08 WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND IN LIGHT
02:33:19 OF THAT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, IF THEY
02:33:21 ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE CONTROL
02:33:23 OF THE PROPERTY, THEY WILL BE NEW OWNERS AND CONTINUES TO
02:33:26 WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
02:33:27 SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE FOLLOWED THE SCIENCE, WHICH IS TODAY'S
02:33:31 BUZZ WORD, DILIGENTLY, AND FOLLOWED UP WITH THE NEIGHBORS,
02:33:36 AND THEY ARE GOOD FOLKS AND WE ENJOYED WORKING WITH THEM.
02:33:40 SO WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO MOVE THE ISSUE FORWARD WITH
02:33:47 BOTH YOUR STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDED
02:33:50 SUPPORT.
02:33:50 AND AGAIN THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO FOOTPRINT CHANGE OF ANY
02:33:54 PAVING, SQUARE FOOTAGE WHATSOEVER, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE
02:33:56 THE SITE.
02:33:58 IT WILL JUST BE MOVING INTO THE SAME BUILDING.
02:33:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:34:02 MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD.
02:34:03 I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF THE TWO OF YOU --
02:34:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. DINGFELDER, IF I CAN.
02:34:08 I KNOW I CAN'T SEE YOU TOO WELL WITH THE SCREEN THERE.
02:34:12 BUT THE QUESTION COMES UP, THEY DID TESTIFY AT THE FIRST
02:34:16 PUBLIC HEARING, AT THE FIRST READING.
02:34:21 YOU ARE CALLING THEM BACK FOR SEWING TO QUESTION THAT NEEDS
02:34:25 TO BE ASKED, IS THE DEVELOPMENT TO COUNCIL SUFFICIENT TODAY
02:34:29 RELATIVE TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IN TERMS OF THE CODE,
02:34:32 IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION.
02:34:34 I KNOW TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE NOT PRESENT BUT I AM
02:34:37 CONCERNED ABOUT THE INQUIRY ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH
02:34:39 THIS AND YOUR RECALLING WITNESSES WHO WERE HERE TO SPEAK AT
02:34:42 THE FIRST READING RATHER THAN TO RAISE THE ISSUE.
02:34:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED THAT
02:34:48 BEFORE I ASKED MR. PRESSMAN TO COME UP AND GIVE HIS SIDE,
02:34:53 BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EITHER NONE OR BOTH AT THIS POINT.
02:35:02 I OPENED MY COMMENTS WITH SAYING I WANTED TO ASK BOTH SIDES
02:35:05 WHERE THEY WERE.
02:35:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE DID.
02:35:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THE
02:35:11 CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO HEAR THAT, THEN MY ADVICE TO THEM IS
02:35:15 THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY RELEVANT
02:35:19 TO THE DECISION THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
02:35:22 CERTAINLY IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT YOU RAISE.
02:35:25 IT CERTAINLY WAS AN ISSUE I THOUGHT IF MR. PRESSMAN HAD
02:35:28 SOMETHING THAT WAS USEFUL TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT MAY HELP
02:35:31 THEM MAKE THEIR DECISION, THAT'S FINE.
02:35:33 BUT TO OPEN THIS UP, AND PRIMARILY THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE
02:35:38 ASKED, OR WHEN I SAID WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, WAS FOR
02:35:41 COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REVIEWED THE RECORD AND HAD QUESTIONS ON
02:35:44 THEIR OWN, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT I.DIDN'T CLARIFY THAT.
02:35:48 MY CONCERN, COUNCIL, I JUST DON'T WANT THE RECORD TO BE
02:35:51 TAINTED.
02:35:52 YOU HAVE YOUR EXPERT TESTIMONY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
02:35:54 STAFF, THE CITY STAFF.
02:35:55 YOU HAVE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU DID HEAR AT THE FIRST
02:35:58 READING.
02:35:59 YOU HAD THE STATEMENTS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL
02:36:04 WITH REGARD TO THAT.
02:36:05 AND I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON THE
02:36:10 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD.
02:36:11 AND I THINK THE RECORD NEEDS TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT IS THE
02:36:15 DETERMINING FACTOR IN THIS CASE.
02:36:16 I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL'S POSITION, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT
02:36:21 TO COMMENT ON THEM MYSELF, BUT CERTAINLY THEY WERE RELEVANT
02:36:26 TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
02:36:27 BUT AGAIN THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THIS RECORD, TO
02:36:30 THE DEGREE THAT WE CAN, IS BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
02:36:33 EVIDENCE.
02:36:33 SO WHATEVER THE DECISION CITY COUNCIL MAKES, WHEN IT'S
02:36:36 REVIEWED, IF IT'S REVIEWED BY A COURT OF LAW, THAT IT'S
02:36:41 UPHELD.
02:36:44 WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:36:47 BUT THE QUESTION IS, IF IT SHOULD CHANGE OR DETERMINE
02:36:52 SOMEBODY'S VOTE BASED ON WHAT THEY HEAR TODAY, THAT MAY BE
02:36:55 PROBLEMATIC.
02:36:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:37:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, THE ONLY DIRECTION I HAVE TO GO IS
02:37:07 IN FAVOR OF THE PETITIONER IF MY VOTE CHANGED.
02:37:12 AS OF LAST MEETING MY VOTE WAS AGAINST PETITIONER.
02:37:15 SO I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF RISK IN REGARD AS
02:37:19 FAR AS THIS COUNCIL MEMBER IS CONCERNED.
02:37:21 I THINK OUT OF FAIRNESS, I DID ASK MR. PRESSMAN TO SPEAK
02:37:24 FIRST, AND I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD HEAR FROM ONE OF THE
02:37:27 NEIGHBORS TO SPEAK SECOND.
02:37:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THOSE
02:37:31 NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WAS A CASE
02:37:34 WHERE IT WAS COMING BACK WITH RULE 6-H, AND THAT IS A
02:37:38 DISTINCTION WITH A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE YOU DID HAVE A VOTE AT
02:37:43 FIRST HEARING, AND IF IT DOES GO FORWARD, CERTAINLY IF IT
02:37:48 DOESN'T GO FORWARD, THEN THE MATTER IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY
02:37:51 A CIRCUIT COURT IF SOMEONE SO CHOOSES.
02:37:54 BUT IF IT DOES GO FORWARD, THERE IS A FULL SECOND PUBLIC
02:37:57 HEARING AS WELL.
02:37:58 SO THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU BECAUSE I DID
02:38:02 NOT RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT YOU HAD ALREADY SPOKEN AT THE
02:38:06 FIRST READING, AND THAT -- UNLESS YOU ARE INVITED TO SPEAK
02:38:14 UP BY COUNCIL, AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER IS DIAGNOSE
02:38:18 THAT, WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU, COUNCIL, IS THIS IS A VERY
02:38:25 UNUSUAL SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE
02:38:28 PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THAT BECAME AN ISSUE FOR COUNCIL AT
02:38:30 LAST WEEK'S MEETING.
02:38:32 THE QUESTION IS, I SEE MS. CATE WELLS IS AVAILABLE ONLINE
02:38:42 AND I AM WONDERING IF SHE WANTS TO OPINE IF SHE HAS ANYTHING
02:38:45 TO ADD TO WHAT I HAVE ALREADY SAID.
02:38:48 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:38:51 DURING LAST WEEK'S HEARING I DID ADVISE COUNCIL THAT TO THE
02:38:54 EXTENT COUNCIL WAS GOING TO INCLUDE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL
02:38:58 ON THE SITE PLAN, IT WHATS NECESSARY FOR COUNCIL TO FIND
02:39:00 THAT THERE WAS A REASONABLE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
02:39:04 CONDITION AND THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED REZONING.
02:39:08 AS MR. PRESSMAN CONFIRMED, TODAY, THE REZONING IS TO INCLUDE
02:39:14 AN ADDITIONAL USE IN THE EXISTING PD.
02:39:16 SO ADDING MEDICAL USE, TO THE EXISTING USES, AND NOT
02:39:22 CHANGING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, OR THE
02:39:24 EXISTING BUILDING, EXCUSE ME.
02:39:27 ANY DISCUSSION LAST WEEK WITH REGARD TO DRAINAGE CONCERNS
02:39:32 EXPRESSED BY THE NEIGHBORS, I ADVISED COUNCIL THAT THOSE
02:39:36 QUESTIONS WERE PROPERLY DIRECTED TO ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT
02:39:39 OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE REZONING, AND THAT ADVICE STANDS
02:39:44 TODAY.
02:39:44 THANK YOU.
02:39:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEREFORE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THAT
02:39:58 WITH APOLOGIES TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IT WOULD BE OUT
02:40:01 OF ORDER, IN MY OPINION, TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THIS DISCUSSION
02:40:04 AND BROADEN IT, FOR WHAT PURPOSE IT ULTIMATELY WOULD NOT BE
02:40:10 RELEVANT TO THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
02:40:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:40:14 SO WE LEAVE IT AT THAT.
02:40:15 BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT SECOND READING,
02:40:17 CORRECT?
02:40:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SEWAGE IT PASSES.
02:40:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ASSUMING IT GOES FORWARD.
02:40:23 ASSUMING THERE IS A SECOND READING THERE'S GOING TO BE AN
02:40:26 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK, ANYBODY.
02:40:33 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
02:40:35 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:40:37 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:40:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:40:40 ALL RIGHT.
02:40:41 ANY OPPOSED?
02:40:42 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 57?
02:40:45 >> FILE REZ 20-9.
02:40:52 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
02:40:55 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
02:40:58 2420 WEST MISSISSIPPI AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
02:41:01 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
02:41:04 DISTRICT PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE/BUSINESS,
02:41:09 PROFESSIONAL, TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, MEDICAL OR
02:41:12 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:41:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:41:17 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
02:41:19 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:41:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
02:41:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:41:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:41:26 I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
02:41:27 I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS BEEN TESTIMONY THAT SAYS THAT THIS
02:41:35 DEVELOPMENT, PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE, HAS ADD VERT IMPACT
02:41:41 ON THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT, AND THEREFORE I CAN'T SUPPORT
02:41:46 IT.
02:41:46 I WAS HOPING THAT IT MIGHT BE ADDRESSED AND RESOLVED BETWEEN
02:41:52 LAST WEEK AND TODAY, AT LEAST VERBALLY.
02:41:55 BUT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE, SO THANK YOU.
02:41:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:42:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:42:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:42:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:42:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
02:42:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:42:07 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:42:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:42:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:42:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER AND CARLSON
02:42:14 VOTING NO.
02:42:15 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER
02:42:17 17th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
02:42:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:42:22 ALL RIGHT.
02:42:23 WE ARE GOING TO START OUR AGENDA.
02:42:27 AT 2:41.
02:42:28 ITEM NUMBER 1.
02:42:41 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
02:42:43 THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE WHICH WE BRIEFED
02:42:47 YOU ABOUT BACK IN OCTOBER, MAKING NONSUBSTANTIAL,
02:42:52 NONSUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
02:42:55 I DO WANT TO NOTE TWO THINGS.
02:42:59 WHEN WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS IN OCTOBER, WE HAD PROPOSED
02:43:04 CHANGING THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW PD APPLICANTS TO
02:43:09 NO LONGER SEND A SITE PLAN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
02:43:14 BASED OWN COMMENTS MADE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND
02:43:19 COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE.
02:43:21 WE WERE ADVISED THAT LANGUAGE, AND IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 19 OF
02:43:25 THE ORDINANCE, WE NOW ARE REQUIRING THAT THE NOTICE LETTER
02:43:31 ITSELF PROVIDE INFORMATION ON HOW TO VIEW A DIGITAL COPY OF
02:43:37 THE COMPLETE APPLICATION INCLUDING THE SITE PLAN WHERE
02:43:40 APPLICABLE.
02:43:40 AND THAT WAS A SUGGESTION THAT YOU ALL HAD MADE.
02:43:45 TWO OTHER THINGS.
02:43:46 HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE, WITH
02:43:49 THE MUCH, MUCH SHORTER TITLE.
02:43:52 WE WOULD NOT HAVE WANTED TO MAKE YOU READ THE ORIGINAL TITLE
02:43:55 THAT WAS UPLOADED INTO SIRE.
02:43:57 AND THEN FINALLY, THIS IS KIND OF A LATE CHANGE THAT I WAS
02:44:04 DISCUSSING WITH STAFF AS RECENTLY AS THIS MORNING.
02:44:07 WE WOULD LIKE TO BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING CHANGE THE
02:44:10 EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS THE VERY LAST
02:44:13 NUMBERED PARAGRAPH IN THE ORDINANCE, TO STATE THAT IT WILL
02:44:16 TAKE EFFECT FEBRUARY 1st, 2021, AND IN THAT WAY WE CAN
02:44:21 NOTIFY ALL OF THE LAND USE PRACTITIONERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
02:44:24 GROUPS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH OF SOME OF THE CHANGES.
02:44:28 FOR INSTANCE, WE ARE MAKING CHANGES TO THE NOTICE
02:44:30 REQUIREMENTS, AND IT WOULD BE UNFAIR IF THIS WENT INTO
02:44:35 EFFECT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE MAYOR SIGNED IT, WITHOUT US
02:44:37 HAVING HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THOSE FOLKS ADVANCE
02:44:41 NOTICE OF THE CHANGE.
02:44:42 SO WE THOUGHT HAVING A DATE CERTAIN WOULD BE BETTER.
02:44:51 WE WOULD PROPOSE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE BETWEEN FIRST AND
02:44:53 SECOND READING WHICH WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO.
02:44:55 WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, FOR NOT
02:44:58 YOU CAN PROCEED TO FIRST READING.
02:44:59 THANK YOU.
02:44:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:45:04 YES, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME CORRESPONDENCE FROM SOME OF OUR
02:45:07 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS EXPRESSING CONCERN, AND THEY SAW THE
02:45:12 LENGTH OF THE ORIGINAL TITLE AND EVEN THE LENGTH OF THE
02:45:16 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
02:45:19 I THINK THEY GOT A LITTLE FREAKED OUT THAT WE WERE
02:45:22 ADDRESSING SOME OF THE SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES THAT WERE INCLUDED
02:45:29 IN NUMBER 75 OF OUR AGENDA TODAY.
02:45:32 I WANT TO A SURE ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING, WE ARE LISTENING
02:45:36 AS THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE STATES.
02:45:39 THIS IS JUST A CLEAN-UP ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS ERRORS AND
02:45:44 CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS CHAPTERS AND SECTION OF THE
02:45:50 ZONING AND LAND USE CODE.
02:45:53 AND WE HAVE CAREFULLY COME THROUGH IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
02:45:57 NOT SUBSTANTIVE.
02:46:00 AND I JUST WANTED TO REASSURE THE FOLKS WHO HAD THOSE
02:46:05 CONCERNS THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
02:46:06 THANK YOU.
02:46:10 THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
02:46:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND A REMINDER TO CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE
02:46:14 PUBLIC.
02:46:14 THIS IS ON FOR FIRST READING.
02:46:16 IT'S A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
02:46:17 THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CLERK AND ADVERTISED
02:46:22 AND THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY CHOOSE TO,
02:46:25 TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT MAY BE OF CONCERN.
02:46:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:46:29 SO WE SEE HOW LONG THIS IS.
02:46:31 THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE AT THE END.
02:46:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A LOT SHORTER AND THAT'S THE ONE TO
02:46:36 READ.
02:46:37 BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WAS A CORRECTION THAT WAS MADE.
02:46:40 IT WAS SCRIVENER'S.
02:46:42 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES, I APOLOGIZE.
02:46:43 WE HAD A WORKING TITLE GOING JUST SO WE COULD KEEP TRACK OF
02:46:46 ALL THE CHANGES, AND SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THE TITLE BEFORE WE
02:46:49 UPLOADED IT TO SIRE.
02:46:51 SO YOU NOW HAVE A MUCH SHORTER TITLE.
02:46:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:46:55 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:46:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO ITEM 1, 2020-8 CHAPTER 27,
02:47:05 I WILL BE GLAD TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST
02:47:08 READING AS FOLLOWS: SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE -- AN ORDINANCE
02:47:14 RELATING TO CORRECTION OF UNINTENTIONAL ERRORS OR CONFLICTS
02:47:17 BETWEEN SECTIONS OF THIS CHAPTER OR WITH OTHER CHAPTERS, AND
02:47:21 AMENDMENTS TO PROCEDURAL MATTERS, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY
02:47:24 OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND
02:47:27 DEVELOPMENT, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES
02:47:30 IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
02:47:33 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:47:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:47:36 COUNCIL FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:47:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:47:38 ANY OPPOSED?
02:47:43 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:47:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:47:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:47:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:47:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:47:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:47:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:47:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
02:47:58 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:48:00 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 17,
02:48:03 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
02:48:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 2.
02:48:18 >>ELAINE LUND: CITY OF TAMPA HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
02:48:21 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS AN AD VALOREM HISTORIC PRESERVATION TAX
02:48:25 EXEMPTION APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTY AT 220 EAST MADISON
02:48:31 STREET.
02:48:32 THIS IS A CITY OF TAMPA LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.
02:48:36 AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:48:37 THANK YOU.
02:48:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THIS WHERE THE CVS IS AT?
02:48:41 >>ELAINE LUND: YES, IT IS.
02:48:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL
02:48:44 MEMBERS?
02:48:46 THAT STARTED OFF AS A BANK IN THE 1960s.
02:48:49 NOW A PHARMACY AND WHATNOT.
02:48:55 GLAD IT HASN'T BEEN DEMOLISHED LIKE SO MANY OTHER BUILDINGS
02:48:58 DOWNTOWN.
02:48:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM NUMBER 2?
02:49:02 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
02:49:08 DO I READ THE WHOLE THING?
02:49:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ORDINANCE BY TITLE, YES, FOR FIRST
02:49:13 READING.
02:49:13 >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE FILE E-2020-8 CH 27.
02:49:19 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
02:49:22 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
02:49:26 EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
02:49:28 RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
02:49:31 URBAN CORE HOLDINGS, II, LLC, LOCATED AT 220 EAST MADISON
02:49:37 STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND IS A DESIGNATED LOCAL LANDMARK,
02:49:41 BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE
02:49:44 PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR
02:49:46 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
02:49:49 CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:49:51 >> SECOND.
02:49:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
02:49:53 DINGFELDER.
02:49:53 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:49:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:49:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:49:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:49:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:49:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:50:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:50:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (NO RESPONSE.)
02:50:04 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA ABSENT
02:50:07 AT VOTE.
02:50:07 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 17,
02:50:10 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
02:50:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:50:12 ITEM NUMBER 3.
02:50:13 >>ELAINE LUND: HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
02:50:21 NUMBER 3 IS ALSO AN AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION,
02:50:24 THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
02:50:27 THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 602 EAST FRANCIS AVENUE,
02:50:31 A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC
02:50:34 DISTRICT, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
02:50:36 THIS PROPERTY IS THE RELOCATION OF THE HOUSE FROM ONE LOT TO
02:50:42 THE NEXT.
02:50:44 THE ORIGINAL LOT IS OWNED BY FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
02:50:47 TRANSPORTATION, AND THE NEW OWNERS WERE ABLE TO RELOCATE THE
02:50:53 HOUSE OUT OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF FDOT AND ALSO DO A VERY
02:50:59 NICE REHABILITATION PROJECT WITH US, AND I'M AVAILABLE IF
02:51:01 YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
02:51:02 THANK YOU.
02:51:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT
02:51:05 CONSTRUCTION WHILE IT WAS BEING MOVED?
02:51:07 I HAPPEN TO CROSS IT AT THE TIME.
02:51:11 UP THERE BY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS GARDENS.
02:51:14 AND IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, WOW, THEY ARE MOVING THAT THING.
02:51:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S REALLY COOL.
02:51:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE HOUSE.
02:51:24 DO YOU HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN IT
02:51:27 WAS DONE?
02:51:29 BEAUTIFUL.
02:51:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WHAT YEAR WAS IT BUILT?
02:51:32 >>ELAINE LUND: THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT CIRCA 1910.
02:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GLAD THAT IT'S BEING PRESERVED.
02:51:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:51:42 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
02:51:44 IF NOT I WILL ASK COUNCILMAN CITRO TO READ ITEM NUMBER 3.
02:51:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE E-2020-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE BEING
02:51:53 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
02:51:55 PROVIDING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION
02:52:00 APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR
02:52:03 REHABILITATION OF A CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY MATTHEW AND
02:52:07 NICOLE PERRY LOCATED AT 602 EAST FRANCIS AVENUE, TAMPA,
02:52:11 FLORIDA, IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, BASED
02:52:16 UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY
02:52:19 APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR
02:52:22 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
02:52:25 CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:52:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:52:30 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:52:31 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:52:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:52:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:52:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:52:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:52:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:52:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:52:40 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
02:52:43 ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:52:45 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER
02:52:47 17th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.
02:52:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
02:52:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GO TO CONSENT ITEMS HERE.
02:52:55 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
02:52:57 BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
02:53:00 IF WE WERE TO REJECT THESE ITEMS THAT ALL PERTAIN TO THE
02:53:04 POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY?
02:53:06 WE LOSE IT.
02:53:07 WE CANNOT REALLOCATE IT.
02:53:10 THAT'S IT.
02:53:10 >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF OF STAFF.
02:53:22 LET'S SEE IF CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER DENNIS ROGERO IS ON THE
02:53:25 LINE BY CHANCE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
02:53:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:53:31 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ANOTHER RELATED QUESTION AND THERE ARE
02:53:35 A COUPLE ITEMS LATER ON THAT MAYBE CHIEF BERCAW WILL ANSWER,
02:53:42 BUT SEVERAL MEMBERS SAID THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
02:53:45 MILITARIZING THE POLICE.
02:53:47 AS I READ THIS, IT DOESN'T FUND TANKS OR ASSAULT WEAPONS OR
02:53:51 RUBBER BULLETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
02:53:53 AM I CORRECT?
02:53:56 WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON WHAT THIS FUNDS?
02:53:59 >>JOHN BENNETT: I CAN TELL YOU HISTORICALLY, COUNCILMAN,
02:54:02 MOST OF THE GRANTS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE DESIGNED
02:54:04 EITHER AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE FOR COMMUNITY ORIENTED
02:54:08 POLICING OR PROTECTING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BOTH IN
02:54:11 TAMPA AND IN THE REGION WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, HAS BEEN
02:54:15 GOING ON SINCE ABOUT THE 2002 ERA.
02:54:19 AGAIN, NOW, THERE ARE 16 SECTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
02:54:23 AND EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE NATION THAT SUPPLY EVERYTHING
02:54:25 FROM OUR ENERGY SECTOR, NUCLEAR, WATER, EVERYTHING YOU CAN
02:54:30 THINK OF, AND ALL OF THAT, INCLUDING CYBER.
02:54:34 SO AGAIN, WITHOUT KNOWING THE SPECIFICS OF EACH GRANT, AS I
02:54:37 WASN'T A PARTICIPANT IN DEVELOPING THEM, I DON'T REALLY KNOW
02:54:41 ALL THE RISK FACTORS ABOUT DENYING AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING
02:54:45 TO.
02:54:46 BUT THAT'S BEEN THE TRADITIONAL REALM OF THESE GRANTS.
02:54:49 I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF LEE BERCAW IS ON THE LINE THAT CAN
02:54:52 ADDRESS ANYTHING.
02:54:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE GET THERE.
02:54:56 I KNOW WE ARE ON 4 AND 5, AS IT RELATES TO 59, I BELIEVE IT
02:55:05 IS, 59 AND 60, THE REPORT IS NOT REALLY SAYING WHAT THE
02:55:15 MONEY WILL BE UTILIZED FOR.
02:55:17 I THINK IT'S CLEAR IN 4 AND 5, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN 59 AND
02:55:21 60 WHAT THE DOLORES WILL BE USED FOR.
02:55:24 SO WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON 59 AND 60.
02:55:28 I AM CLEAR ON 4 AND 5.
02:55:32 60 AND 59, I DON'T SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR.
02:55:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONCE WE GET TO THAT AND WE HAVE SOMEONE
02:55:39 ON THE LINE.
02:55:39 >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SPEAK, JUST LET ME KNOW.
02:55:48 >> I WOULD.
02:55:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:55:51 >> I CAN SPEAK TO ALL OF THEM BUT I WILL ADDRESS THE URBAN
02:55:59 AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS UAB, A FEDERALLY
02:56:03 FUNDED HOMELAND SECURITY GRAND DEVELOPED SHORTLY AFTER 9/11
02:56:08 WHICH ASSISTS HIGH THREAT, HIGH DENSITY URBAN AREAS EFFORTS
02:56:13 TO SUSTAIN AND DELIVER CAPABILITIES NECESSARY TO PREVENT,
02:56:18 PREPARE FOR, PROTECT AGAINST, AND RESPOND TO ACTS OF
02:56:20 TERRORISM.
02:56:22 PROTECTING THE NATION FROM TERRORISM IS THE PRIMARY FUNCTION
02:56:26 OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
02:56:27 TO ACHIEVE THIS OUTCOME, THE DHS MUST COORDINATE THE
02:56:32 PROTECTION OF OUR NATION'S CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES.
02:56:35 AS CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT ALLUDED TO, THE DEPARTMENT OF
02:56:39 HOMELAND SECURITY IDENTIFIED 16 CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES
02:56:43 SECTORS WHICH INCLUDE CHEMICAL, COMMUNICATIONS, DAMS,
02:56:47 EMERGENCY SERVICES, FINANCIAL SERVICES, GOVERNMENT
02:56:50 FACILITIES, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, TRANSPORTATION,
02:56:53 COMMERCIAL FACILITIES, CRITICAL MANUFACTURING, DEFENSE,
02:56:58 INDUSTRIAL-BASED, ENERGY, FOOD AND AGRICULTURE, HEALTH AND
02:57:03 PUBLIC SAFETY, AND NUCLEAR WATER AND WASTEWATER.
02:57:08 THE PRESIDENTIAL POLICY DIRECTIVE 21 ESTABLISHED UNDER
02:57:11 PRESIDENT OBAMA UPDATED THE NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE POSITIVE
02:57:14 PROTECTION PLAN AND PROVIDED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE
02:57:18 AUTHORITY TO ENHANCE ITS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY
02:57:21 AND RESILIENCE THROUGH IMPROVING CYBER SECURITY.
02:57:25 SO IN 2020, THE DHS IDENTIFIED FOUR PRIORITIES WHICH INCLUDE
02:57:30 CYBER SECURITY, PROTECTION OF SOFT TARGETS, ENHANCING
02:57:34 INFORMATION AND INTELLIGENCE SHARING, AND EMERGENT THREATS.
02:57:38 SO HAT 32 URBAN AREAS IN THE NATION, AND THE TAMPA BAY
02:57:45 REGION ENCOMPASSES EIGHT COUNTIES.
02:57:48 CITRUS, HARDEE, HERNANDEZ, HILLSBOROUGH, PASCO, PINELLAS,
02:57:53 POLK AND SUMTER.
02:57:55 THIS YEAR THE REGION WAS AWARDED $3,325,000, AND 37
02:58:01 DIFFERENT AGENCIES ACROSS OUR REGION BENEFITED FROM THIS
02:58:05 GRANT, OR WILL BENEFIT FROM THE GRANT.
02:58:08 THIS INCLUDES FIRE RESCUE, POLICE, MEDICAL, EMERGENCY
02:58:14 MANAGEMENT, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, AND OTHER LOCAL
02:58:17 GOVERNMENT THAT HAVE THE NEEDS IN THIS REGION.
02:58:22 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST
02:58:25 MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS REGION, HAVE LESS THAN A QUARTER OF
02:58:31 THIS GRANT.
02:58:31 SO THIS IS NOT A POLICE GRANT.
02:58:33 IT'S A REGIONAL GRANT FOR THE ENTIRE TAMPA BAY AREA.
02:58:39 FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE ITEMS IS ACTIVE SHATTER KITS FOR
02:58:44 FIRE RESCUE, WHICH WAS OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
02:58:49 IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE GRANT, IF YOU HAVE
02:58:54 ANY QUESTIONS.
02:58:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT ALL RIGHT?
02:58:56 >>BILL CARLSON: DID QUESTION OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY OF THESE,
02:59:02 DOES IT PAY FOR ANY WEAPONS THAT COULD BE USED AGAINST
02:59:05 PROTESTORS OR KEEPING PEOPLE SPEAKING OUT FOR THEIR FIRST
02:59:18 AMENDMENT RIGHT?
02:59:19 >> NO.
02:59:19 ALL OF THIS IS MANY TYPES OF THINGS I WENT OVER WITH BEFORE.
02:59:23 IT WOULD BE TERRORISM PREVENTION, ELECTRONIC FOR
02:59:27 INTELLIGENCE SHARING AND SO FORTH.
02:59:29 BUT NOTHING DESIGNED FOR PROTESTING IN ANY WAY.
02:59:31 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THEM I SAW, TELL ME IF I READ THIS
02:59:35 CORRECTLY, BUT IT'S TRAINING LIKE A POTENTIAL TERRORIST
02:59:43 ATTACK AND TEACHES PEOPLE HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
02:59:46 IS THAT CORRECT?
02:59:46 >> YES, THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION ON EXPLOSIVES ORDNANCE TEAM
02:59:56 FOR OFFICERS THAT ARE ON A REGIONAL RESPONSE FOR SUSPICIOUS
02:59:59 DEVICES AND HOW TO HANDLE THEM FOR THE COMMUNITY'S SAFETY.
03:00:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:00:06 VIERA.
03:00:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:00:08 I WILL LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG.
03:00:11 I WILL VOTE FOR THIS AND I HOPE WE ALL DO.
03:00:14 WE JUST HAD A PRESENTATION ON PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
03:00:17 THESE ARE THINGS THAT APPEAR TO BE REASONABLY CALCULATED TO
03:00:19 DEFENDING AND SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA, AND I INTEND
03:00:23 TO VOTE ON THESE AND I HOPE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS DO AS
03:00:26 WELL.
03:00:27 AND WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES INVOLVING PROTESTORS, ET CETERA,
03:00:30 I THINK THAT A POLICY OBVIOUSLY OF SUPPORTING FREEDOM OF
03:00:34 SPEECH, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, IS SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT,
03:00:37 FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, NO MATTER WHAT THAT EXPRESSION IS,
03:00:40 ET CETERA.
03:00:41 I DON'T SEE A CONTRIBUTION BETWEEN THAT VERY NOBLE ALL
03:00:45 AMERICAN PURPOSE AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE APPROVING HERE TODAY.
03:00:48 THANK YOU.
03:00:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:00:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
03:00:54 MR. DENNIS ROGERO IS ON THE LINE IF COUNCIL HAS ANY
03:00:58 QUESTIONS.
03:00:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I UNDERSTAND 4 AND 5.
03:01:03 I SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING OWN IN
03:01:06 NATIONAL SECURITY.
03:01:06 I WAS JUST ASKING IN REFERENCE TO 59 AND 60.
03:01:12 WHAT THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR.
03:01:14 I GET 4 AND 35.
03:01:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S WHAT BERCAW WENT OVER.
03:01:20 >> SO YOU ARE SAYING 4 AND 5 AND 59 AND 6307 ALL THE SAME
03:01:26 GRANT?
03:01:27 >>> NO.
03:01:28 IF YOU LOOK AT 59 AND 60, AM I CORRECT?
03:01:33 THAT'S WHAT YOU WENT OVER.
03:01:35 3 MILLION AND HOW IT'S PRONE DOWN.
03:01:37 AND I KNOW WE HAVE MR. ROGERO ON THE LINE.
03:01:39 WHAT HAPPENS IF WE VOTE TO REJECT THIS GRANT MONEY?
03:01:44 >>DENNIS ROGERO: CFO.
03:01:51 I'M SORRY.
03:01:52 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
03:01:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN HEAR YOU FINE.
03:01:54 >> THIS IS CFO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:02:00 IF COUNCIL CHOOSES NOT TO APPROVE THIS GRANT FUNDING, WE
03:02:04 OBVIOUSLY WILL GET GIVE IT BACK TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND
03:02:07 OTHER LOCALITIES THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR IT, BUT FURTHER TO
03:02:10 WHAT CHIEF BERCAW SAID, THE SUBRECIPIENTS THAT WE WILL BE
03:02:16 DISTRIBUTING IT TO WILL NOT GET THEIR FUNDING.
03:02:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:02:20 I HAVE NO INTENTION TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
03:02:22 I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WHAT WE HEARD IN PUBLIC
03:02:25 COMMENT WAS MILITARIZING THE POLICE AND FURTHER MILITARIZING
03:02:29 THE POLICE.
03:02:29 BUT I SEE HERE SAFE MOTORCYCLE AND RIDER TECHNIQUES, OR
03:02:34 HOMELAND SECURITY FUNDS, AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT BERCAW HAD
03:02:39 EXPLAINED, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PUT TO GOOD USE,
03:02:44 NOTE TO MILITARIZE THE POLICE AND TAKE IT ANY FURTHER.
03:02:47 IT'S NECESSITATES.
03:02:48 WE HAVE A LOT OF VALUABLE ASSETS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF
03:02:50 TAMPA THAT NEED PROTECTION FROM TERRORISM AND WHATNOT.
03:02:53 THIS IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE THING.
03:02:55 AND THAT ANSWERS ALL MY QUESTIONS.
03:02:58 THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I ASKED.
03:03:02 GO AHEAD.
03:03:02 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD SAY ONE MORE THING.
03:03:04 WE OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAK OUT OVER THE SUMMER
03:03:07 AND WE WERE TRYING TO LISTEN TO,
03:03:10 AND MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES.
03:03:14 IN SOME CASES IT'S HARD TO READ THE AGENDA TO FIGURE OUT
03:03:19 WHAT'S BEING FUNDED AND WHAT ISN'T.
03:03:21 AND MY SUGGESTION WE WOULD BE THAT SOMEBODY FROM MAYBE THE
03:03:26 PR DEPARTMENT, PIO OF THE POLICE, EVERY TIME A POLICE BUDGET
03:03:32 ISSUE COMES UP, MEET WITH SOME OF THESE GROUPS IN THE
03:03:35 COMMUNITY, AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP SO THEY
03:03:38 HAVE COMPLETE INFORMATION, AND THEN IF THEY ARE STILL
03:03:40 AGAINST IT THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM THEM.
03:03:43 BUT THAT WAY, THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO DECIPHER WHAT LIMITED
03:03:48 INFORMATION IS ONLINE.
03:03:49 THANK YOU.
03:03:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:03:51 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 11?
03:03:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:03:56 I MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 11.
03:03:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:04:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:04:04 ANY OPPOSED?
03:04:05 HEARING NONE, NEXT UP WE HAVE PARKS, REC AND CULTURAL
03:04:09 COMMITTEE, ITEMS 12 THROUGH 16 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 13 THAT
03:04:12 WAS PULLED AND WILL BE COMING UP UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
03:04:15 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING 12, THEN 14
03:04:18 THROUGH 16?
03:04:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:04:20 I MOVE ITEMS 12, 14, 15, 16.
03:04:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:04:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:04:29 ANY OPPOSED?
03:04:32 HEARING NONE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, PUBLIC WORKS.
03:04:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE ITEMS 17 THROUGH 19.
03:04:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
03:04:39 DINGFELDER.
03:04:40 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:04:41 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARL SEWN.
03:04:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:04:45 ANY OPPOSED?
03:04:46 ALL RIGHT.
03:04:47 NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING
03:04:50 COMMITTEE, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 20 THROUGH 25?
03:04:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS 20 THROUGH 25 AND MOVE THE
03:04:57 SUBSTITUTE ON ITEM NUMBER 24.
03:04:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:05:02 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:05:03 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:05:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:05:07 ALL RIGHT.
03:05:07 NEXT UP IS BUILDING ZONING AND PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
03:05:10 WITH --
03:05:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST IN REGARD TO ITEM 25,
03:05:15 WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA, RELATED TO POLICE EXTRA
03:05:19 DUTY AUDIT, AND I SUPPOSED WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS INCLUDING
03:05:25 TPD.
03:05:28 THE ONLY CRITICISM IN THE AUDIT, IF YOU SAW IT WAS
03:05:33 APPARENTLY WE ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT GOING OUT AND PROVIDING
03:05:36 THE OFF-DUTY OFFICERS TO VARIOUS BUSINESSES IN EVENTS AND
03:05:42 STADIUMS BUT WE ARE NOT SO GREAT ON COLLECTIONS.
03:05:44 AND APPARENTLY THERE WERE ABOUT 10% OF THE COLLECTIONS WERE
03:05:47 IN ARREARS.
03:05:49 SO I'M SURE MR. BENNETT AND MR. ROGERO SAW THAT CRITICISM,
03:05:54 AND APPARENTLY IT'S SORT OF AN INTRADEPARTMENTAL PROBLEM,
03:05:58 BECAUSE TPD PROVIDES THE SERVICE, BUT THEN THE REVENUE AND
03:06:02 FINANCE FOLKS DO THE COLLECTIONS.
03:06:04 SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, AND HOPE THAT
03:06:09 PERHAPS NEXT TIME MS. GLOVER AND HER TEAM LOOK AT THAT.
03:06:14 THEY HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB WITH THEIR COLLECTIONS.
03:06:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. DINGFELDER BRINGS
03:06:21 SOMETHING UP.
03:06:22 SO I GUESS THAN THE CLIENTS ARE PREPAID BEFORE THEY CAN GET
03:06:29 SERVICES.
03:06:29 I GUESS THAT MUST HAVE CHANGED?
03:06:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW.
03:06:35 MAYBE THEY GIVE A DEPOSIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
03:06:37 BUT CLEARLY THERE'S A COLLECTION EFFORT AFTER THE FACT AND
03:06:40 IT'S NOT PERFECT.
03:06:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THOUGHT I COULD WOULD INQUIRE ABOUT THAT.
03:06:48 THANK YOU.
03:06:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUILDING ZONING PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
03:06:53 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 26 THROUGH 36.
03:06:56 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 33 AND -- ITEM NUMBER --
03:07:04 THERE'S A REQUEST TO REMOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 33 AND
03:07:07 CONTINUANCE ON 35 AND 36.
03:07:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UH-HUH.
03:07:12 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 33 FROM THE AGENDA?
03:07:16 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:07:18 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:07:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:07:21 AND IN ITEM 35, CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR THE REQUEST OF CRA
03:07:26 DIRECTOR TO CONTINUE THIS TO DECEMBER 17th?
03:07:32 35 AND 36, TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER 17th.
03:07:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.
03:07:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM DINGFELDER.
03:07:38 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:07:39 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:07:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:07:42 OKAY.
03:07:42 SO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, IF YOU COULD REDO THAT MOTION
03:07:47 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 33, 35 AND 36.
03:07:50 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 26 THROUGH 32
03:07:56 AND ITEM 34.
03:07:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
03:08:00 CARLSON.
03:08:01 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:08:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:08:04 ANY OPPOSED?
03:08:06 COUNCIL MEMBER LUIS VIERA.
03:08:08 >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE ITEMS 37, 38 AND 39.
03:08:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:08:14 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:08:16 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:08:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:08:19 ALL RIGHT.
03:08:19 ANY OPPOSED?
03:08:20 ALL RIGHT.
03:08:21 WE GO TO OUR 9:30 PUBLIC HERE, AT 3:-7 IN THE BE AFTERNOON.
03:08:26 WE ALREADY MOVED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SO WE WILL
03:08:28 BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 40.
03:08:32 ANYBODY FOR ITEM NUMBER 40?
03:08:35 NO?
03:08:36 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 40?
03:08:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TO CLOSE.
03:08:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:08:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ONLINE FOR
03:08:46 THE RECORD.
03:08:47 >>THE CLERK: THERE IS NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
03:08:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
03:09:03 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:09:04 DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:09:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:09:08 ALL RIGHT.
03:09:08 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 40?
03:09:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER E-2020-8 CHAPTER 25.
03:09:17 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
03:09:19 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
03:09:23 AMENDING THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION 25-74-A-6 TO
03:09:29 REINSTATE AND AUTHORIZE THE NO MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION
03:09:34 IMPACT FEE ZONES FOR DREW PARK, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, AND
03:09:40 YBOR CITY AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN THE CITY OF
03:09:43 TAMPA CODE SECTION 25-74-A-6 AND EFFECTIVE FOR A PERIOD OF
03:09:52 THREE YEARS COMMENCING OCTOBER 21, 2020, AND EXPIRING THREE
03:09:58 DAYS THEREAFTER ON OCTOBER 20, 2023, AMENDING CHAPTER 25,
03:10:03 ARTICLE III, EXHIBIT IV, NO MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACT
03:10:10 FEE ZONES, BY REPLACING MAPS, 25.1, 25.1-G, AND 25.1-I AND
03:10:22 ADDING 25.1-K AND 25.1-H PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
03:10:31 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
03:10:34 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:10:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:10:40 SECOND WITH COMMENT FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:10:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE LEGISLATIVE
03:10:46 HISTORY ABUNDANTLY CLEAR ON THIS ORDINANCE.
03:10:49 BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO BE CONE FUSING, APPARENTLY, LAST TIME.
03:10:53 THAT THIS IS A 3-YEAR ORDINANCE.
03:10:56 AND NO MORE, NO LESS.
03:10:59 IT COULD BE MORE IF THE NEXT COUNCIL THREE YEARS FROM NOW
03:11:04 READOPTS IT OR EXTEND IT OR EXPANDS IT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
03:11:07 BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT EVERYBODY ON NOTICE WHO MIGHT BE
03:11:10 INTERESTED IN BUILDING IN THOSE AREAS RIGHT NOW, THEY GET NO
03:11:15 MULTIMODAL FEES ATTACHED TO THEIR PROJECTS.
03:11:19 THAT ENCOURAGES THEM TO DO IT.
03:11:21 BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S FOREVER.
03:11:24 THAT'S MY STUMP SPEECH.
03:11:27 THANK YOU.
03:11:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:11:29 SECOND FROM DINGFELDER.
03:11:30 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:11:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:11:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:11:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:11:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:11:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:11:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:11:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA ABSENT
03:11:42 AT VOTE.
03:11:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 41.
03:11:45 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
03:11:52 IT IS RECOGNIZING THAN THE MEMORIAL PARK AS RECREATIONAL
03:11:57 OPEN SPACE.
03:11:59 I'M AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS.
03:12:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:12:03 IS THERE ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON 41?
03:12:06 IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:12:08 IS THERE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:12:09 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THIS ITEM.
03:12:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:12:15 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:12:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:12:18 ANY OPPOSED?
03:12:19 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 41?
03:12:23 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE PA-19-18-A, ORDINANCE
03:12:28 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AMEND WILLING THE
03:12:33 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE
03:12:36 ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY
03:12:39 LOCATED AT 102 WEST HYDE PARK PLACE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
03:12:44 AIDS MEMORIAL PARK FROM REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 RMU 100 AND
03:12:49 RESIDENTIAL 83 R-83 TOO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS
03:12:56 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING
03:12:59 FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:13:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:13:04 (ROLL CALL)
03:13:05 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:13:08 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:13:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 42.
03:13:12 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION, LAND USE
03:13:21 DESIGNATION.
03:13:22 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
03:13:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
03:13:25 WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NUMBER 42?
03:13:28 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:13:30 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:13:33 >> WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
03:13:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:13:37 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:13:40 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:13:40 ANY OPPOSED?
03:13:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:13:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR. IN REGARDS TO FILE
03:13:45 PA-19-18-B, I MOVE TO FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
03:13:50 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
03:13:54 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE
03:13:58 MAP FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 5212 INTERBAY
03:14:02 BOULEVARD AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS BAT LAUGH POINT PARK FROM
03:14:06 RESIDENTIAL 20 R-20 AND RECREATION OPEN SPACE R/OS TO
03:14:09 RECREATION OPEN SPACE R/OS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
03:14:13 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING
03:14:15 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:14:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:14:18 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:14:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:14:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:14:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:14:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:14:30 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:14:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 43.
03:14:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
03:14:37 ITEM HAD 3 WILL RECOGNIZE CENTENNIAL PARK AS FUTURE LAND USE
03:14:43 DESIGNATION.
03:14:44 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:14:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
03:14:47 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
03:14:50 ITEM 43?
03:14:51 IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:14:54 IS THERE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:14:56 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION.
03:14:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
03:15:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:15:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:15:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:15:04 ANY OPPOSED?
03:15:06 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, ITEM NUMBER 43.
03:15:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN YOU GET DONE WITH THIS I HAVE A
03:15:14 QUESTION.
03:15:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PA 19-18-C, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
03:15:20 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
03:15:22 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
03:15:26 AT 1800 EAST 8th AVENUE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
03:15:29 CENTENNIAL PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 50 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN
03:15:34 SPACE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
03:15:38 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:15:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:15:44 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:15:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:15:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:15:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:15:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:15:50 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:15:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:15:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:15:55 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:15:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD A
03:15:59 QUESTION OR COMMENT?
03:16:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, WE HAD SOME STAFF REPORTS STILL
03:16:03 THAT PROBABLY STILL HAVE STAFF WAITING ON THE LINE FOR US TO
03:16:09 GET TO THEM.
03:16:10 >> WE ARE MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY.
03:16:14 ITEM NUMBER 44.
03:16:15 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
03:16:19 ITEM 44 IS CUSCADEN PARK.
03:16:26 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:16:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:16:29 HEARING NONE DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
03:16:31 SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 44?
03:16:34 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:16:35 ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:16:36 >>THE CLERK: WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATIONS.
03:16:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY CITY COUNCILMAN
03:16:41 GUDES.
03:16:42 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:16:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:16:45 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:16:46 >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER 474, I READ AN ORDINANCE BEING
03:16:49 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
03:16:52 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
03:16:55 LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY
03:16:59 GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2800 NORTH 15th STREET AND
03:17:02 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CUSCADEN PARK FROM URBAN MIXED USE 60 UMU
03:17:08 60 TO RECREATION OPEN SPACE, RO-1 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
03:17:14 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
03:17:18 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:17:22 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:17:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:17:27 ANY OPPOSED?
03:17:31 I'M SORRY, ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:17:33 (ROLL CALL).
03:17:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:17:41 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:17:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT ITEM.
03:17:43 >>JENNIFER MALONE: ITEM NUMBER 40, I'M AVAILABLE FOR
03:18:05 QUESTIONS.
03:18:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON 45?
03:18:08 IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:18:09 IS THERE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:18:11 >> THERE IS NO ONE REGISTERED.
03:18:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES
03:18:15 AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:18:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:18:18 OPPOSED? HAVE BEEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:18:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PA 19-18-E, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
03:18:25 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
03:18:28 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
03:18:32 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY
03:18:35 LOCATED AT 7801 NORTH 22ND STREET AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
03:18:40 22ND STREET PARK, FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LI AND RESIDENTIAL
03:18:45 20 R-20 AND RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE RO-1, TO RECREATIONAL
03:18:52 OPEN SPACE, R/OS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
03:18:56 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
03:18:58 DATE.
03:18:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:19:04 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:19:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:19:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:19:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:19:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:19:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:19:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:19:13 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:19:15 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:19:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 46.
03:19:18 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
03:19:21 ITEM NUMBER 46 IS TAPPAN TRACT PARK, TO RECOLLECT THE PARK,
03:19:28 FUTURE LAND USE.
03:19:29 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
03:19:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:19:32 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 46?
03:19:35 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:19:36 IS THERE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:19:39 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE REGISTRATION FOR THIS ITEM.
03:19:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES
03:19:44 AND CARLSON.
03:19:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:19:46 ALL RIGHT.
03:19:46 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:19:47 >> I MOVE FILE PA 19-18-F, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
03:19:54 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
03:19:56 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
03:19:59 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY
03:20:03 LOCATED AT 6601 SOUTH SHERILL AVENUE AND OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
03:20:09 TAPPAN TRACT PARK FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LI MAJOR
03:20:12 ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA ESA AND RESIDENTIAL 35 R-35
03:20:16 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
03:20:20 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
03:20:23 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:20:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:20:27 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:20:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:20:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:20:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:20:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:20:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:20:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:20:38 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:20:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 47.
03:20:43 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
03:20:46 47 IS RECOGNIZED TAKOMAH TRAIL PARK, RECREATIONAL OPEN
03:20:51 SPACE, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
03:20:53 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:20:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
03:20:56 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
03:20:58 47?
03:21:00 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:21:02 ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:21:04 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE REGISTRATION.
03:21:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:21:08 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:21:09 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:21:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:21:12 ANY OPPOSED?
03:21:13 ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND READING
03:21:15 ITEM 47.
03:21:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO FILE PA 19-18-G, I WILL
03:21:22 MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE.
03:21:24 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
03:21:25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
03:21:27 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE
03:21:31 PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 10099 TAKOMAH TRAIL OTHERWISE
03:21:37 KNOWN AS TACOMA TRAIL PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 AND
03:21:40 RESIDENTIAL 20 R-20 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS
03:21:46 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
03:21:48 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:21:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:21:54 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:21:55 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:21:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:21:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:21:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:22:01 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:22:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:22:03 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:22:05 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:22:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 48.
03:22:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLAN AMENDMENT 19-21 PROPOSING TO REMOVE
03:22:18 TERMS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND AGAIN I AM AVAILABLE
03:22:21 FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:22:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:22:25 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM 48?
03:22:29 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:22:32 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:22:34 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THIS ITEM.
03:22:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:22:39 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:22:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:22:43 COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE YOU ARE UP.
03:22:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PA 19-21, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
03:22:50 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING IMAGINE
03:22:52 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, TO
03:22:57 REMOVE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICY 5.1.9 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
03:23:01 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING
03:23:02 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:23:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:23:07 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:23:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:23:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:23:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:23:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:23:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:23:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:23:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
03:23:21 ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:23:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 49.
03:23:25 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, WE DO HAVE PETITIONER ON LINE.
03:23:38 IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
03:23:43 WE HAVE MR. MICHELINI I AM HERE FOR 49, THOUGH.
03:23:46 OKAY, MR. MICHELINI.
03:23:50 WAIT, WAIT.
03:23:51 SWEAR YOU IN.
03:23:52 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
03:23:57 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DO.
03:24:01 COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT THERE WERE NO UTILITIES IN THIS
03:24:03 ALLEY.
03:24:05 IT'S UNIMPROVED.
03:24:06 AND THE PETITIONER, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, HAD NO
03:24:11 OBJECTION AT THE FIRST HEARING.
03:24:13 AND THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO VACATE THIS ALLEY SO THE TWO
03:24:21 ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS COULD ENJOY THAT.
03:24:24 THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS WAS NO LONGER NEEDED BECAUSE THE HOUSE
03:24:27 ON THE NORTH SIDE WAS DEMOLISHED.
03:24:30 SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
03:24:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE
03:24:35 GENTLEMAN?
03:24:36 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
03:24:38 ITEM NUMBER 49?
03:24:40 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:24:42 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:24:43 >>THE CLERK: WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THIS
03:24:46 ITEM.
03:24:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:24:50 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:24:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:24:53 ANY OPPOSED?
03:24:54 ALL RIGHT.
03:24:54 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:24:56 ITEM NUMBER 49.
03:24:57 >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
03:25:00 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING,
03:25:05 CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF ALLEYWAY,
03:25:10 RIGHT-OF-WAY LYING SOUTH OF PLATT STREET NORTH OF AZEELE
03:25:13 STREET, EAST OF HESPERIDES AVENUE, I ALWAYS MISPRONOUNCE
03:25:18 THAT, WEST OF MANHATTAN AVENUE IN BELGRANO SUBDIVISION A
03:25:25 SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
03:25:28 FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
03:25:31 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
03:25:33 RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SETTLE FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING
03:25:37 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:25:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:25:39 ROLE CALL VOTE.
03:25:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:25:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:25:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:25:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:25:46 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:25:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:25:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO AND
03:25:55 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:25:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:25:59 ITEM NUMBER 50.
03:26:11 HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, SIR?
03:26:13 >> NO.
03:26:14 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
03:26:16 >> I DO.
03:26:22 13014 NORTH DALE MABRY.
03:26:27 CHANGE TO VACATE THE ALLEY.
03:26:30 THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS.
03:26:33 THIS IS THE ALLEY TOWARDS THE END OF IT WAS ACTUALLY VACATED
03:26:40 A WHILE BACK AND THERE ARE SEVERAL HOMES AND TWO COMMERCIAL
03:26:43 PROPERTIES IN FRONT.
03:26:49 WE WEREN'T AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
03:26:52 AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
03:26:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:26:57 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
03:26:59 NUMBER 50?
03:27:00 ITEM NUMBER 50?
03:27:03 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:27:05 ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:27:06 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THIS ITEM.
03:27:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
03:27:11 GUDES.
03:27:11 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:27:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:27:15 ALL RIGHT.
03:27:15 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
03:27:19 ITEM NUMBER 50.
03:27:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER VAC-20-11, MOVE AN ORDINANCE
03:27:27 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
03:27:29 ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A
03:27:32 PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY LOCATED SOUTH OF CHERRY
03:27:36 STREET, NORTH OF PINE STREET, EAST OF TAMPANIA AVENUE, AND
03:27:42 WEST OF ARMENIA WITHIN THE PLAT OF MACFARLANE'S ADDITIONS TO
03:27:48 WEST TAMPA, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
03:27:50 COUNTY FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF,
03:27:57 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT RESERVATION, COVENANTS,
03:28:02 CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
03:28:05 HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:28:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:28:10 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:28:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:28:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:28:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:28:18 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:28:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:28:21 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO, VIERA
03:28:25 AND MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:28:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:28:31 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 51.
03:28:36 ITEM NUMBER 51.
03:28:37 >>THE CLERK: WE DO HAVE MR. FRANCIS REGISTERED.
03:28:44 HE WAS ON EARLIER TODAY BUT HE IS NOT ON AT THIS TIME.
03:28:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HMMM.
03:28:49 MR. SHELBY?
03:28:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IF HE'S NOT PRESENT AT PUBLIC
03:28:59 HEARING THEN I GUESS WE CAN'T TAKE HIS COMMENTS.
03:29:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
03:29:03 WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 51?
03:29:05 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:29:06 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:29:09 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THIS ITEM.
03:29:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY
03:29:13 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
03:29:14 SECOND BY CARLSON.
03:29:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:29:17 ANY OPPOSED?
03:29:19 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
03:29:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 51?
03:29:26 IN REGARD TO VAC 20-18.
03:29:30 I MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND
03:29:32 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING,
03:29:35 ABANDONING A PORTION OF A RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY SOUTH OF
03:29:41 ABDELLA STREET NORTH OF IVY STREET EAST OF MATANZAS AVENUE
03:29:47 AND WEST OF LINCOLN AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF JOHN DREW'S
03:29:51 FIRST EXTENSION OF NORTHWEST TAMPA A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY
03:29:54 OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY
03:29:59 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT
03:30:02 RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS,A CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS
03:30:05 MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
03:30:06 DATE.
03:30:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
03:30:10 (ROLL CALL)
03:30:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO, VIERA
03:30:20 AND MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:30:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GO TO OUR 9:30 MUST BE HEARINGS.
03:30:26 WE OPENED EVERYTHING, SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO.
03:30:28 ITEM NUMBER 352.
03:30:30 >>JAN MCLEAN: WITH THE OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.
03:30:39 THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE DESIGNATION
03:30:41 OF THE BROWNFIELD AREA.
03:30:43 THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION
03:30:48 LOCATED GENERALLY AT 1901 NORTH 6th STREET.
03:30:52 THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY THE CITY AND THE PROPERTY
03:30:58 OWNERS ENVIROFOCUS TECHNOLOGIES LLC, AND THE APPLICATION HAS
03:31:07 BEEN THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
03:31:10 THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED BY COUNCIL TODAY.
03:31:15 YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION.
03:31:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:31:20 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
03:31:27 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52?
03:31:29 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK OR REGISTERED ONLINE?
03:31:32 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THIS ITEM.
03:31:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:31:36 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:31:37 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:31:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:31:40 ANY OPPOSED?
03:31:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION, IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:31:42 MARTIN SHELBY.
03:31:45 DOES THIS MEAN THAT NO ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN BUT THE
03:31:48 SECOND PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD BE ANNOUNCED?
03:31:50 IS THAT THE ACTION TO BE TAKEN?
03:31:51 >>JAN MCLEAN: YES.
03:31:55 THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE ANNOUNCED.
03:31:58 I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THE EVENING
03:32:01 MEETING ON DECEMBER 10th.
03:32:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT NO FURTHER ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN
03:32:07 TODAY.
03:32:11 >>JAN MCLEAN: NO FURTHER ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TODAY.
03:32:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:32:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:32:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND PUBLIC HEARING DECEMBER 10th
03:32:19 AT 6:00 P.M.
03:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
03:32:21 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 53.
03:32:23 >>JAN MCLEAN: OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.
03:32:32 THIS IS THE SECOND BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION FOR THE FIRST
03:32:38 PUBLIC HEARING.
03:32:40 THE APPLICATION FOR THIS PROPOSED BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION IS
03:32:44 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED GENERALLY AT 1237 EAST TWIGGS STREET.
03:32:49 THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY BY THE PROPERTY
03:32:52 OWNER JH WILLIAMS OIL COMPANY AND THE SITE IS ECI VENTURES
03:32:58 LLC REQUESTING SUCH DESIGNATION.
03:33:00 THE APPLICATION IS ON FILE AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
03:33:05 AND THIS WILL BE AS THE PREVIOUS ONE.
03:33:08 THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED BY CITY
03:33:11 COUNCIL AT THIS TIME.
03:33:13 SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL HAVE A REQUEST TO APPROVE THE
03:33:18 PROPOSAL FOR DESIGNATION.
03:33:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:33:25 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
03:33:27 NUMBER 53?
03:33:29 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
03:33:32 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
03:33:34 >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THIS ITEM.
03:33:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
03:33:38 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:33:39 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:33:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:33:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:33:46 ANY OPPOSED?
03:33:47 NO?
03:33:47 ITEM NUMBER 55.
03:33:49 WE DID --
03:33:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THE RECORD THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING
03:33:53 ON ITEM 53 WILL BE DECEMBER 10th, 2020 AT 6:00 P.M.
03:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:33:59 ITEM NUMBER 54.
03:34:01 THERE'S A REQUEST THAT IT BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA DUE TO
03:34:04 THE APPLICANT WITHDRAWING THE APPLICATION FOR DESIGNATION.
03:34:06 CAN YOU GET A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 54?
03:34:09 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:34:10 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:34:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:34:13 ANY OPPOSED?
03:34:15 ALL RIGHT.
03:34:15 ITEM NUMBER 55.
03:34:22 >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
03:34:26 MANAGEMENT.
03:34:27 ITEM NUMBER 55 ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY IS A PRESENTATION OF THE
03:34:32 ONE-YEAR ACTION PLAN THIS PLAN IS PARTLY OF OUR FIVE YEAR
03:34:39 CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR FUNDING THAT COMES UNDER OUR HOUSING
03:34:44 AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
03:34:47 THIS AFTERNOON, I HAVE WITH ME KAREN HENDERSON, OUR ACTING
03:34:51 MANAGER OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
03:34:53 SHE IS GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION TO YOU.
03:34:56 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE THIS UP OWN OUR WEBSITE
03:35:00 FOR A PUBLIC PERIOD, AND THIS IS OUR PUBLIC PRESENTATION
03:35:07 TODAY TO GET ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE WILL BE BACK
03:35:10 BEFORE YOU ON DECEMBER 3rd IN ORDER TO ADOPT THE PLAN.
03:35:18 THIS IS WE RECEIVE AN ALLOCATION OF THESE FUNDS, AND OUR
03:35:23 CONSOLIDATED STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
03:35:25 I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO KAREN.
03:35:29 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:35:35 I AM GOING TO GO OVER THE ACTION PLAN AS ABBEY JUST STATED.
03:35:40 I HAVE A POWER POINT PRESENTATION.
03:35:42 I AM KNOW IT SURE IF YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
03:35:44 >> THERE IT IS.
03:35:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, NO, THAT'S NOT IT.
03:35:53 >> HOLD ON.
03:35:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LOOKS LIKE WE ARE WAITING.
03:36:18 MAYBE WHILE WE ARE WAITING, IS THERE ACTION REQUIRED FOR
03:36:21 THIS?
03:36:23 OR IS IT JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE?
03:36:25 WHAT'S THE ACTION?
03:36:28 >> IT'S THE MOTION TO APPROVE AS WELL AS OPEN IT FOR ANY
03:36:33 PUBLIC COMMENTS IF THERE ARE ANY.
03:36:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
03:36:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:36:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS THINKING, MS. FEELEY,
03:36:47 THERE'S A WALK-ON THAT RELATES TO A MEMORANDUM THAT YOU
03:36:50 PREPARED.
03:36:51 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP AFTER THIS.
03:36:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. FEELEY, YOU HAVE THIS WALK ON.
03:36:58 WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE IT UP AFTER THIS SINCE WE HAVE YOU
03:37:01 ON?
03:37:04 >>ABBYE FEELEY: KAILEN IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT WALK ON,
03:37:07 THE LATTER PART OF HER PRESENTATION THAT HAS TO DO WITH AN
03:37:10 ALLOCATION THAT IS COMING THROUGH THIS ACTION PLAN.
03:37:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, GREAT.
03:37:17 LET'S DO THAT AND THEN I WILL JUST TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
03:37:20 55 AND THEN THIS WALK-ON WE WILL HEAR ALL AT ONCE.
03:37:25 GO AHEAD.
03:37:25 >> ARE WE ABLE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION? IF NOT, I BELIEVE
03:37:25 SHE CAN SHARE THE SCREEN IF THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE
03:37:37 EFFICIENT.
03:37:51 >> ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THAT?
03:37:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE EXPAND IT OUT TO THE FULL SCREEN,
03:38:02 IF POSSIBLE.
03:38:02 >> SO WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER THE FY 21 HOUSING AND
03:38:13 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, AS ABBEY STATED,
03:38:16 WE ARE TASKED WITH THE ACTION PLAN ANNUALLY FOR ALL OF OUR
03:38:20 FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE, AND WE WILL TOUCH ALSO ON THE
03:38:23 STATE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE AS IT IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH
03:38:27 FOR WHAT WE DO FOR HOUSING.
03:38:29 THE ACTION PLAN IS GOING TO COVER WHAT PROJECTS WE HAVE
03:38:34 UPCOMING FOR ALL THE FEDERAL FUNDS.
03:38:36 THE PROPOSED ACTIVITIES THAT WE LIKE TO DO FOR THE UPCOMING
03:38:38 YEAR.
03:38:39 WE ARE ALSO -- THIS ITEM ALSO TOUCHES ON THE CARES ACT AND
03:38:44 AMENDING WHAT OUR ACTION PLAN WAS FOR LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE
03:38:47 RECEIVED THE FUND WE HAD TO DO A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO
03:38:50 THAT ACTION PLAN ALSO, AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR ANY PUBLIC
03:38:53 INPUT.
03:38:55 SO THE ACTION PLAN LIKE YOU SAID, IT DOES GO OVER THE
03:38:58 ACTIVITY AND PROGRAMS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.
03:39:00 IT IS OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
03:39:03 WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
03:39:05 WE ARE IN YEAR FOUR OF COMPLETING THAT SO ONCE WE DO THAT
03:39:08 CONSOLIDATED PLAN EVERY YEAR WE MAKE A STEP CLOSER TO
03:39:12 ACTUALLY FULFILLING THAT GOAL IN OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
03:39:15 IT'S GOING TO GO OVER THE DIFFERENT FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCES,
03:39:20 HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP, WHICH IS THE HOME.
03:39:23 IT IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE
03:39:26 HAVE.
03:39:27 IT CAN FUND SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION.
03:39:29 IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE BIG SOURCES OF OUR DOWN PAYMENT
03:39:31 ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS, FOR OUR
03:39:34 HOUSING REHAB FOR OWNER OCCUPIED REHABS THAT WE ASSIST, AS
03:39:39 WELL AS THE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY START ADD FEW YEARS AGO,
03:39:43 HOUSING ASSISTANCE, WHILE HOME FUNDS AREN'T NECESSARILY
03:39:46 EARMARKED FOR HOMELESSNESS WE DO HAVE 800,000 FOR HOMELESS
03:39:51 SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY HOMELESS IN THE CITY OF
03:39:54 TAMPA LIMITS AS WELL AS SOME MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION SO WE
03:39:59 CAN CONTINUE WITH SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE CITY OF
03:40:02 TAMPA LIMITS.
03:40:03 WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT THAT IS
03:40:07 CDBG.
03:40:09 MOSTLY YOU WILL SEE IT LISTED CDBG.
03:40:11 THAT IS IT FUND A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITY.
03:40:15 WE HAVE PUBLIC SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN THE COMMUNITY
03:40:18 THAT ARE LOOKING FOR SOME SERVICES.
03:40:19 IT MIGHT JUST BE SOME RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO MOVE FORWARD,
03:40:26 DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC FACILITIES, THAT MIGHT BE A SHELTER
03:40:29 THAT'S FUNDED, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
03:40:33 AND THEN THIS IS WHAT WE USE TO FUND OUR HOUSING COUNSELING
03:40:37 AGENCIES.
03:40:37 THEY ARE DOING SOME RENTAL COUNSELING.
03:40:39 THEY DO ALSO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM FOR OUR FIRST-TIME HOME
03:40:42 BUYER PROGRAM.
03:40:44 AND THEY WERE ALSO THE SOURCE THAT WE WILL USE NOR OUR ONE
03:40:47 TAMPA RELIEF AS WE HAD THOSE APPLICATIONS.
03:40:52 THE PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE WITH AID IS THE VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE
03:40:58 THAT'S THE ONLY PROGRAM WE HAVE THAT DOESN'T ONLY SERVE THE
03:41:03 CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH, PASCO COUNTY, HERNANDO.
03:41:06 WE HAVE 13 AGREEMENTS COMING UP, AND IT WILL BE EIGHT
03:41:09 DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
03:41:11 WE WILL SERVE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
03:41:16 THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS TO US PAY SOME MORTGAGE
03:41:18 ASSISTANCE.
03:41:19 WE WILL HAVE SOME SERVICES, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, PERMANENT
03:41:23 AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
03:41:27 OUR EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT ALSO KNOWN AS ESG, THAT IS FOR
03:41:33 HOMELESS FAMILIES OR THOSE WHO ARE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS,
03:41:36 BECAUSE THOSE FUNDING ALLOCATION IS NOT THAT GREAT.
03:41:40 IT'S ABOUT 279,000 ANNUALLY.
03:41:42 WE FUND RAPID REHOUSING AND EMERGENCY SHELTER OPERATION THAT
03:41:47 GENERALLY GIVES US ABOUT THREE AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO FUND
03:41:50 AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
03:41:53 SO THIS IS JUST AN OVERALL OF WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE FOR
03:41:58 ESG.
03:41:59 WE GET ROUGHLY 3.2 MILLION HOMES, 1.7 MILLION, 4.1 MILLION
03:42:05 ESG, 279,000, AND SHIP WHICH IS OUR STATE FUND, THAT'S A
03:42:10 LITTLE BIT OVER $4 MILLION GIVEN THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET OF
03:42:15 13.4 MILLION.
03:42:16 AGAIN, HOPWA BEING OUR LARGE ET FOR FOUR DIFFERENT COUNTIES.
03:42:25 THE TIMELINE FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE STARTED THAT
03:42:28 PROCESS AND HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING BACK MAY 28th.
03:42:31 WE DID OPEN THE APPLICATION IN APRIL.
03:42:38 WE HAD TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORKSHOP GIVEN, INSTEAD OF
03:42:43 HOUSING THEM, THE MANDATORY WORKSHOP WHERE PEOPLE HAD TO
03:42:46 COME IN, WE WORKED THEM ON OUR WEBSITE.
03:42:49 WE ALLOWED THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES WHO WERE INTERESTED TO ASK
03:42:52 QUESTIONS ON THE 14.
03:42:54 ONCE THEY ASKED QUESTIONS WE COULD CLARIFY ANY ADDITIONAL
03:42:57 QUESTIONS, AND THOSE WERE DUE BACK ON APRIL 207th.
03:43:00 WE CLOSED THE APPLICATION PROCESS ON THE 15th SO WE
03:43:03 ALLOWED AGENCIES ABOUT 60 DAYS TO APPLY BECAUSE OF THE
03:43:07 PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE BEING OUT.
03:43:10 WE REVIEWED THE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS ON MAY 30th.
03:43:14 WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN AS
03:43:16 ABBEY STATED WE WILL BE BACK ON DECEMBER 3rd WITH THE
03:43:19 APPROVAL OF THE PLAN SO THAT WE CAN SUBMIT TO THE HUD TO
03:43:22 ACCEPT THE FUND.
03:43:23 THIS YEAR, WE WILL BE STARTING OUR FISCAL YEAR ON DECEMBER
03:43:27 1st, 2020, AND AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC EVERYTHING
03:43:31 HAS KIND OF BEEN PUSHED BACK, BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN APPROVAL
03:43:34 FROM HUD FOR THAT.
03:43:36 SO THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
03:43:39 FOR HOUSING PROJECTS.
03:43:40 WE WILL BE DOING CDBG HOME OWNERSHIP FOR ABOUT 5.8 MILLION,
03:43:47 DOING SO LAND ACQUISITION, FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER A MILLION,
03:43:50 OUR PUBLIC SERVICES ABOUT 500,000.
03:43:53 FOR THE HOPWA PROGRAM WE WILL BE DOING A LITTLE OVER 4
03:43:57 MILLION ESG, 272, FROM OUTREACH AND PROGRAM DELIVERY AT 431,
03:44:03 AND THEN JUST GENERAL ADMIN COSTS OF 1.4.
03:44:08 THESE NUMBERS ARE MISSING THE ADMINISTRATIVE AMOUNTS THAT
03:44:12 WILL BE.
03:44:16 FOR THE PROGRAM HOUSING COUNSELING, WE HAVE FOUR APPROVED
03:44:18 HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES THAT WILL HELP US AGAIN WITH OUR
03:44:21 FIRST HOME BUYER PROGRAM, OUR DARE PROGRAM.
03:44:23 WE PAY THE AGENCIES TO ACTUALLY ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM,
03:44:27 ABOUT 350,000 FOR THE FOUR DIFFERENT AGENCIES WHICH IS
03:44:30 SEPARATE FROM THE ACTUAL DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE THAT THEY
03:44:33 RECEIVE.
03:44:34 THE DEMOLITION AMOUNT LISTED ANY PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
03:44:38 AGAIN THAT'S GOING TO BE FROM CDBG AND HOME.
03:44:42 WE HAVE MADISON HEIGHTS THAT WILL BE PARTNERED WITH FOR 626.
03:44:45 THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE THAT YOU SEE LISTED THERE, THOSE
03:44:48 ARE THE FUNDS THAT WE WILL USE TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING
03:44:50 FOR THAT GAP FUNDING AS THEY LOOK TO PURCHASE THEIR FIRST
03:44:54 HOME WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA LIMITS.
03:44:56 OUR TBRA PROGRAM WHICH I LISTED EARLIER, OUR TENANT BASED
03:45:02 RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WE USE THE HOME DOLLARS, WHILE WE
03:45:05 DON'T HAVE A LARGE ALLOCATION FROM ESG WE STILL USE SOME
03:45:08 OTHER FUND TO HELP WITH HOMELESS ISSUES.
03:45:10 AND THEN OUR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB BETWEEN CDBG AND STATE
03:45:14 FUNDING LOOKING AT ABOUT $2 MILLION TO ASSIST.
03:45:20 SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC SERVICES, WE HAVE TAMPA HOUSING
03:45:22 AUTHORITY, CATHOLIC CHARITIES, SENIORS AND SERVICE,
03:45:26 METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, AND MACDONALD TRAINING CENTER.
03:45:29 OUT OF THESE, FOUR OF THEM ARE HELPING WITH HOMELESSNESS,
03:45:32 RENTAL ASSISTANCE ALSO, GIVEN THE PANDEMIC WE REALLY FELT
03:45:36 LIKE WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE
03:45:39 GOING TO BE COMING UP.
03:45:40 THE HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES ARE LISTED HERE, AS WELL AS
03:45:43 THE PROPOSED EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT, THE AGENCIES THAT WE
03:45:47 FUND.
03:45:49 FOR ESG, WE HAVE FAMILY SERVICE WHICH WAS FORMERLY HOUSE
03:45:55 WITH DEALS WITH PREGNANT TEENS AND YOUNG MOTHERS AND NOW
03:45:59 HELPING WITH FAMILIES TO HELP IF THEY ARE AT RISK OF
03:46:02 HOMELESSNESS JUST TRYING FOE MA MAKE SURE THEY MAINTAIN
03:46:05 STABLE HOUSING.
03:46:06 THIS SPRING WHICH IS FOR DOMESTIC SHELTER IN THE CITY OF
03:46:10 TAMPA AS WELL AS CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
03:46:14 THESE ARE THE PROPOSED HOPWA PROGRAMS.
03:46:17 AGAIN THIS IS GOING OVER FOUR DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
03:46:19 WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE
03:46:22 PROGRAMS THAT WILL ALSO FUND, SOME PERMANENT HOUSING, AND
03:46:26 SOME TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
03:46:30 THE CARES ACT AMENDMENT GIVEN EVERYTHING ON MARCH 27, WEE IT
03:46:38 WAS FOUND THAT WE WOULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL FUND TO PREVENT
03:46:41 AND PREPARE FOR THE COVID-19.
03:46:44 WE DID GET -- THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE LIST OF WHAT WE DID
03:46:47 WITH THE FUND AND HOW MUCH WE GOT.
03:46:49 WE GOT 1.7 THAT WE USED FOR ONE TAMPA RELIEF PHASE ONE AND
03:46:53 THAT WAS REGULAR CDBG ENTITLEMENT FUND THAT WE HAD THAT WE
03:46:59 REALLOCATED UNTIL WE STARTED GETTING CARES ACT FUNDING.
03:47:03 WE GOT 1.8 MILLION FOR CDBG 1, A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILLION.
03:47:12 WE GOT A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION.
03:47:13 THEN FOR EESG 2,.
03:47:21 WE ARE RECEIVING A LITTLE BIT OVER $3 MILLION.
03:47:27 THE CARES ACTS AMENDMENT, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS THE ONE
03:47:30 TAMPA RELIEF PROGRAM.
03:47:31 AGAIN, WE DID THREE DIFFERENT PHASES THROUGH THAT TO HELP
03:47:35 THOSE WHO WERE CRITICALLY IMPACTED BY LOSING THEIR JOBS AND
03:47:39 AT RISK FOR HOMELESSNESS.
03:47:40 WE WERE ABLE TO HELP TO MAINTAIN THOSE WHO WERE IN THEIR
03:47:44 HOMES SO THAT THEY DID NOT BECOME HOMELESS.
03:47:46 HILLSBOROUGH HOPE, WHICH WILL BECOME THE HAVEN OF HOPE WHICH
03:47:49 WILL BE A HOLISTIC APPROACH FOR THOSE WHO COME IN AS
03:47:52 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A TRANSITION
03:47:54 PERIOD BEFORE THEY GET TO PERMANENT HOUSING.
03:47:57 WE WILL BE DOING RENTAL HOUSING REHAB PROJECTS, RAPID
03:48:01 REHOUSING AND SOME SHELTER OPERATIONS.
03:48:03 AS FAR AS THE WALK-ONS THAT ABBEY MENTIONED EARLIER, THE
03:48:07 RENTAL HOUSING REHAB PROJECT, THE WALK-ON ITEM IS TO ACCEPT
03:48:12 THE ADDITIONAL FUND, PHASE 2, FROM THE STATE, SO THAT WE ARE
03:48:15 ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THE RENTAL HOUSING REHAB PROJECT.
03:48:19 WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO DIDN'T
03:48:23 APPLY OR COULDN'T APPLY FOR SOME FUND AND WERE UNABLE TO PAY
03:48:26 RENT, THAT LEFT SOME LANDLORDS UNABLE TO MAKE CRITICAL
03:48:31 REPAIRS TO THEIR FACILITIES, BUT WE ARE DOING A RENTAL
03:48:35 HOUSING REHAB PROJECT, ONE TO MAINTAIN SOME AFFORDABLE
03:48:38 UNITS, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO HAVE
03:48:43 THEIR TENANTS LIVE IN AN SIEVE AND SANITARY PLACE.
03:48:48 SO AGAIN, GOING OVER WHAT THE OVERVIEW OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT
03:48:53 PERIOD THAT WE HAD, WE DID POST THE DRAFT OF THE ACTION PLAN
03:48:57 ON OUR WEBSITE.
03:48:58 WE ALSO --
03:49:02 [NO ENCODER]
03:49:04 AND FOR FY 21 FOR A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT.
03:49:32 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:49:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:49:35 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:49:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
03:49:38 A LOT OF TIMES, I GET QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE CDBG FUND.
03:49:42 I NOTICE YOU HAVE REHAB THERE.
03:49:45 I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT REIN A OUR COMMUNITIES.
03:49:51 NOW LOW DENSITY AREAS, CORRECT?
03:49:53 >> I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE LAST PART OF WHAT YOU SAID.
03:49:59 >> THE CRITERIA FOR THE CDBG FUND.
03:50:02 >>ABBYE FEELEY: FOR THE CDBG FUND?
03:50:10 >> CORRECT.
03:50:11 >> SO THE PROGRAM CAN BE USED FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.
03:50:16 A LOT OF THAT CRITERIA THEN COMES WITHIN HOUSING DIVISION TO
03:50:19 SET DIFFERENT PARAMETERS FOR THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS.
03:50:22 THE ONE CRITERIA THAT HOUSING CAN'T CHANGE IS THAT IT MUST
03:50:25 BE FOR THOSE WHO ARE AT OR BELOW 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN
03:50:30 INCOME.
03:50:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU GOT RIGHT TO MY QUESTION.
03:50:35 BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, I SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM WITH THAT
03:50:39 SITUATION.
03:50:39 AND THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE CRA REHAB AND THE
03:50:43 FUNDING TO GO TO DIFFERENT FORMS OF REHAB.
03:50:45 I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT IN SOME OF THESE AREAS WITH A LOT OF
03:50:50 THE PROPERTY THAT WE DO HAVE, THAT'S JUST SITTING ABANDONED,
03:50:54 TO PUT PEOPLE IN HOUSING, A LOT OF THESE BILLED BUILDINGS
03:50:57 THAT WE HAVE TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THESE BUILDINGS.
03:51:00 SO I'M THINKING OF HOW IN THE FUTURE WE LOOK AT THAT, THE
03:51:04 STOCK THAT IS CORRECT WE DO HAVE, ESPECIALLY OUR LOW INCOME
03:51:07 AREAS IN TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS, AND BUILDINGS THAT ARE
03:51:12 SITTING ABANDONED.
03:51:13 I'M HOPING IN THE FUTURE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
03:51:16 I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A KEY TO SOLVING THE HOUSING
03:51:19 PROJECT AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS.
03:51:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
03:51:27 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
03:51:30 ITEM?
03:51:32 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK WHO ARE REGISTERED?
03:51:39 HEARING NONE --
03:51:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
03:51:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO THE
03:51:48 DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS, MS. HENDERSON AND
03:51:53 VENESSA McCLEARY AND ABBEY RECENTLY, AND CAROL, AND THE
03:52:00 WHOLE LINEUP.
03:52:02 THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THESE
03:52:05 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, AND ALL THESE STATE AND FEDERAL
03:52:08 REGULATIONS AND HOW THEY KEEP THEM STRAIGHT, I HAVE NO IDEA.
03:52:11 BUT I THINK WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT
03:52:14 OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE, AND NOW OUR CHALLENGE IS TO TRY AND
03:52:19 FIND MORE MONEY.
03:52:20 BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUTOUT FOR WHAT THEY DO.
03:52:25 THANK YOU.
03:52:25 >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF YOU OPEN THE PRESENTATION, FINANCE
03:52:37 THERE'S ANY PUBLIC CONVERSATION, AND THEN ALSO ON THE LAST
03:52:39 ITEM, IF WE COULD GET YOU TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON
03:52:44 THAT RESOLUTION, ACCEPTING THE ADDITIONAL FUND THAT ARE
03:52:47 COMING FROM THE STATE.
03:52:50 THE REHAB PROGRAM, WE ARE GOING TO LAUNCH THAT PROGRAM
03:52:53 TOMORROW.
03:52:54 THAT IS FOR MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS THAT ARE MAKING THAT
03:53:04 IMPROVEMENT SO THAT WILL BE AN OPEN PROCESS, BUT IT'S GOING
03:53:07 TO LAUNCH.
03:53:08 WE ARE SENDING THOSE APPLICATIONS, WE WILL EVALUATE THEM,
03:53:10 AND THEN WE WILL APPROPRIATE THE FUND.
03:53:13 IT REALLY IS IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.
03:53:18 WE DO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE WALK-ON TODAY, AS WE MOVE
03:53:22 FORWARD TO GET THOSE FUND AND BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THEM.
03:53:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:53:28 I ALREADY ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:53:30 THERE WAS NONE.
03:53:31 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:53:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
03:53:36 GUDES.
03:53:36 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:53:38 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:53:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:53:41 ALL RIGHT.
03:53:41 THERE'S A WALK-ON HERE, A RESOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO BE READ.
03:53:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, JUST MOVED.
03:53:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
03:53:49 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:53:51 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:53:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:53:54 ANY OPPOSED?
03:53:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT IS
03:53:58 ON THE ADDENDUM UNDER NEW BUSINESS, FILE E-
03:54:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 2020-48.
03:54:04 YES, SIR.
03:54:04 ALL RIGHT.
03:54:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT 55, DIABETES WE NEED A MOTION
03:54:10 ON THAT?
03:54:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE COMING BACK.
03:54:14 IS THAT CORRECT?
03:54:15 >> IT'S COMING BACK ON THE 3rd.
03:54:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
03:54:20 WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 58 WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATION
03:54:23 UPDATE;
03:54:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK IF YOU WOULD INQUIRE WHETHER YOU
03:54:30 WANT TO TAKE UP THE LAST ITEM, ITEM NUMBER?
03:54:32 >>> I WAS GOING TO GO TO THIS FIRST.
03:54:34 YES, LET'S GO TO NUMBER .
03:54:36 WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE.
03:54:37 THIS WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:54:41 ITEM NUMBER 13 REGARDING THE AMENDMENT TO THE ARAMARK FOOD
03:54:48 SERVICE.
03:54:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS UP OR TAKE A LOT
03:54:51 OF TIME ON IT.
03:54:53 PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT I WAS A WATCHDOG ON THE LAST
03:54:55 ADMINISTRATION, AND THERE WERE MANY ALLEGATIONS AND
03:54:58 ACCUSATIONS ABOUT PURCHASING ANOTHER PRACTICES OVER THE LAST
03:55:03 ADMINISTRATION, AND ONE OF THE CASE STUDY IS ORIGINAL RFP.
03:55:11 IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ARCHIVES, YOU WILL SEE THAT
03:55:14 THERE WERE SEVERAL MEDIA STORIES WHERE COMPETITORS DIDN'T
03:55:18 FEEL LIKE THE CITY HANDLED THE RFP CORRECTLY, AND THEN AT
03:55:22 SOME POINT IN THE RFP PROCESS, PART OF THE SPACE THAT WAS
03:55:31 SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED, THE ONE THAT WAS THE FORMER
03:55:34 HISTORY CENTER SPACE WAS SUDDENLY TAKEN OUT WITH APPARENTLY
03:55:38 NO EXPLANATION.
03:55:41 WHICH WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE WHOLE RFP PROCESS.
03:55:43 AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR ONE OF
03:55:46 THE OUTPARCELS WHERE THE WINNING VENDOR WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE
03:55:49 BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE THAT, AND SUDDENLY THE CITY YANKED THAT
03:55:54 FROM THEM, AND THAT AFFECTED THE WINNING BIDDER'S MBE
03:56:00 CRITERIA.
03:56:01 I HAVE SPOKEN -- I JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD.
03:56:03 I HAVE SPOKEN TO STAFF, AND QUALIFIER HAPPENED IN THE PAST,
03:56:07 THERE HAS BEEN A PROTEST, AND IT HAS NO BEARING ON THIS
03:56:12 PARTICULAR RENEWAL.
03:56:14 I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I HAD CONCERNS IN THE PAST.
03:56:19 I INQUIRED ABOUT IT.
03:56:20 AND I BELIEVE THAT THE STAFF AND EVERYONE HAS BEEN THROUGH A
03:56:24 VERY GOOD SOUND PROCESS IN THIS PROCESS, AND THAT VENDORS ON
03:56:30 THE CITY STAFF HAVE ALL DONE A GOOD JOB BY DOING THAT.
03:56:34 BUT I ASKED CHIEF BENNETT TO MAYBE WORK WITH ME OFFLINE TO
03:56:39 LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND TRY TO GET SOME
03:56:41 ANSWERS ON NO.
03:56:45 WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST SAY LET'S VOTE.
03:56:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE
03:56:52 THAT ITEM?
03:56:53 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
03:56:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR AMENDMENT 13.
03:56:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
03:57:03 I HAVE IN A PROBLEMS WITH ITEM 13.
03:57:05 BUT AS LONG AS CONVENTION CENTER STAFF IS HERE, COULD YOU
03:57:10 GIVE US A 60 SECOND UPDATE ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING?
03:57:17 ARE PEOPLE STARTING TO REBOOK AGAIN?
03:57:23 I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SUFFERED FINANCIALLY, ET CETERA, OVER
03:57:28 THE LAST IT -- SINCE MARCH.
03:57:31 SO WHERE ARE WE AT?
03:57:33 WHERE ARE WE HEADED?
03:57:35 >> LINDA GARVEY, CONVENTION CENTER AND TOURISM DIRECTOR.
03:57:40 YES, WE HAVE HAD SOME CHALLENGES.
03:57:41 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN REALLY PROUD OF IS
03:57:44 THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY REPURPOSED OUR FACILITY, NOT ONLY FOR
03:57:47 CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, BUT FOR MANY OTHER EVENTS THROUGHOUT
03:57:51 THESE SEVERAL MONTHS, KEEPING SOMEWHAT OF A SMALL ECONOMY
03:57:56 GOING, AS WELL AS KEEPING SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES EMPLOYED
03:57:59 THROUGHOUT THE VENUE.
03:58:01 AND SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT DESPITE COVID, AND DESPITE SO
03:58:07 OF THE EARLY 2021 CANCELLATIONS THAT WE ARE BEGINNING TO
03:58:15 JUST EXPERIENCE, WE ARE VERY, VERY OPTIMISTIC, AND THE
03:58:19 NUMBERS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE TAMPA BAY OUR PARTNERS IN
03:58:22 THE HOTEL COMMUNITY ALL INDICATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
03:58:26 OVER 100% OF OUR OCCUPANCY AS THE YEAR GOES ON.
03:58:31 AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THIS CONTRACT, PARTICULARLY, GOES
03:58:35 ALL THE WAY THROUGH 26, SO THOSE FUTURE YEARS WHERE WE HAVE
03:58:40 ACTUALLY MOVED FROM THIS PAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY MOVED 85% OF
03:58:47 OUR EVENTS THAT HAVE CANCELED INTO FUTURE YEARS, ALL THE WAY
03:58:51 THROUGH 26 AND 27.
03:58:53 AND THAT'S KUDOS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS THAT
03:58:58 WE HAVE WITH OUR CLIENTS.
03:59:00 AND SO THIS WHOLE CONTRACT THAT YOU ARE GETTING READY TO
03:59:04 APPROVE FOR RENEWAL IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE IN A
03:59:08 VERY GOOD WAY.
03:59:10 SO VERY, VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT OUR FUTURE.
03:59:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVE A LOT OWN YOUR HAND IN RELATION
03:59:18 TO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL OCCUR OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
03:59:20 YEARS AS WELL.
03:59:21 THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
03:59:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
03:59:25 CARLSON TO MOVE ITEM 13.
03:59:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:59:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:59:30 ANY OPPOSED?
03:59:32 ALL RIGHT.
03:59:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:59:33 NEXT UP WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS WITH ITEM NUMBER 58.
03:59:40 ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
03:59:41 YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING?
03:59:42 ALL RIGHT.
03:59:46 ITEM NUMBER 59.
03:59:48 IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE THEY WERE ANSWERED
03:59:51 EARLIER WITH THE DISCUSSION ON SOME OF THE OTHER POLICE
03:59:54 ITEMS.
03:59:54 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM 59?
03:59:57 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
04:00:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA WITH THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A
04:00:03 SECOND?
04:00:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:00:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:00:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
04:00:12 >> AYE.
04:00:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO OPPOSED.
04:00:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:00:15 ITEM NUMBER 60; IT'S PART OF THE SAME.
04:00:22 CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
04:00:24 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA MOVE.
04:00:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:00:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:00:30 AYE.
04:00:30 ANY OPPOSED?
04:00:33 ALL RIGHT.
04:00:33 ITEM NUMBER 61.
04:00:37 4.1 MILLION CONTRACT.
04:00:39 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
04:00:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD CONCERNS ON 61?
04:00:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, AS USUAL, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE
04:00:52 WMBE COMPONENT OF 61 AND 62 AND GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON
04:01:00 THAT AS WELL AS 63.
04:01:04 AND ALSO, I NOTICED IN -- I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE, ONE OF
04:01:08 THESE THREE, THAT THERE WAS ALSO SOME TRAINING, A TRAINING
04:01:14 COMPONENT, SORT OF LIKE -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS WORTH A QUICK
04:01:21 DISCUSSION.
04:01:21 I KNOW WE ARE LATE IN THE AFTERNOON.
04:01:23 BUT MR. BHIDE, THE CAPTION SAYS JEAN DUNCAN, BUT I THINK
04:01:30 THAT'S MR. BHIDE.
04:01:31 >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR.
04:01:35 I AM IN THE OFFICE WITH JEAN.
04:01:37 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
04:01:39 VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, ADDRESSING ITEM 61.
04:01:45 ACTUALLY, 61 THROUGH 64.
04:01:47 SO 61 AND 62 ARE RELATED TO THE COLUMBUS DRIVE PROJECT WHICH
04:01:56 IS AWARDED TO NELSON.
04:01:59 THIS PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY A GRANT AND FEDERAL FUND
04:02:06 WHICH REQUIRE THAT WE DO THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
04:02:10 COMPONENT, AND THAT IS THROUGH ALSO FOR THE 46th STREET
04:02:16 PROJECT, WHICH ITEM 63 AND 64 BOTH HAVE WORKFORCE
04:02:21 DEVELOPMENT, BOTH HAVE WMBE PROJECTS, BOTH HAVE MET THE
04:02:28 REQUIREMENTS, AS FAR AS COLUMBUS, THE TARGET FOR WORKFORCE
04:02:33 DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THEIR CONTRACT AMOUNTS IS FOR A MINIMUM
04:02:38 OF THREE TRAINEES, AND WHERE POSSIBLE, OR WHERE FEASIBLE, AT
04:02:45 LEAST 25% OF ALL TRAINEES IN EACH OCCUPATION WILL BE IN
04:02:51 THEIR FIRST YEAR OF TRAINING, THAT IS AN ATTEMPT THAT THE
04:02:55 CONTRACTOR WILL MAKE, AND AS FAR AS 46th STREET, WHICH
04:03:00 IS BEING AWARDED TO GOSALIA AND WE ACCEPTED THEIR PROPOSAL,
04:03:09 THEIR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENT IS FOR A MINIMUM OF
04:03:12 TWO TRAINEES, AGAIN BASED ON CONTRACT AMOUNTS, AND ALSO
04:03:16 WHERE FEASIBLE 25% OF ALL TRAINEES IN EACH OCCUPATION WILL
04:03:21 BE IN THEIR FIRST YEAR OF TRAINING.
04:03:29 SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EPO REQUIREMENTS.
04:03:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
04:03:44 I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING THAT WE CAN START WORKING ON OUR
04:03:47 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING, AND EXPAND IT, AND MAYOR
04:03:53 CASTOR, SHOUTOUT FOR THAT PROJECT.
04:03:58 I WANTED TO MAKE REFERENCE, MR. BHIDE, ON YOUR MEMO AS
04:04:02 RELATED TO OUR WMBE.
04:04:08 THE WMBE PRESENTATION WAS A LITTLE HARD TO DIG OUT ON ALL
04:04:12 FOUR OF THESE.
04:04:13 CAN YOU RUN THROUGH SOME OF THOSE WITH US?
04:04:18 IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE GOOD DBE PARTICIPATION ON THE ONE AT
04:04:24 66%.
04:04:26 BUT UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU SHALL NOT SEEING A LOT OF BLACK
04:04:33 BUSINESS PARTICIPATION, BBE.
04:04:35 >>VIK BHIDE: SO WE ARE FOLLOWING STATE AND FEDERAL
04:04:39 REQUIREMENTS HERE, AND FOR THE COLUMBUS DRIVE PROJECT, WE
04:04:44 HAVE AN OVERALL PROJECT PARTICIPATION OF 26% OUT OF THE FIVE
04:04:51 SUBCONTRACTORS THAT THE CONTRACTOR IDENTIFIED.
04:04:54 TWO WERE EBE AND TWO WERE WMBE CERTIFIED, AND THAT'S A TOTAL
04:05:00 OF 26%.
04:05:03 25.3% OF THAT REPRESENTS CERTIFIED HBE SLASH SLB FOR OUR
04:05:11 CRITERIA, AND THAT'S FOR COLUMBUS.
04:05:14 AND FOR THE 46th STREET PROJECT, AGAIN, WE HAVE A TOTAL
04:05:21 PARTICIPATION OF 66%, LIKE YOU SAID, AND THAT REPRESENTS
04:05:26 EBE, AND THEN 33% FOR HPE AS WELL.
04:05:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT NO BBE, BLACK BUSINESS?
04:05:44 >>VIK BHIDE: SO, IT IS A RATIO FOR POLICY WHEN THEY LOOK AT
04:05:49 FEDERAL AND STATE REQUIREMENTS.
04:05:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY
04:05:57 FOR REPORTING, ISN'T IT?
04:05:58 >>VIK BHIDE: I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED.
04:06:00 THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
04:06:01 BOTH PROJECTS HAVE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT AT THE END OF
04:06:04 THE CONTRACT WE WILL REQUIRE THE CONTRACTOR TO SUBMIT
04:06:10 REPORTS, AND WE WILL MAKE THOSE REPORTS AVAILABLE TO
04:06:13 COUNCIL.
04:06:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:06:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
04:06:26 WOULD THERE BE A DATE THAT YOU CAN COME BACK AND GIVE US THE
04:06:30 UPDATES ON THOSE?
04:06:31 HOW LONG ARE THESE CONTRACTS IN PLACE FOR?
04:06:34 A YEAR OR SO, OR WHAT?
04:06:36 >>VIK BHIDE: SO THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT IS THROUGH THE END
04:06:39 OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT IS DETERMINED BY PROJECT SCHEDULE.
04:06:43 AND THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS, BOTH OF THEM, IN
04:06:48 TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION.
04:06:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, WE WILL JUST COUNT ON YOU TO BE AT
04:06:55 YOUR WORD AS ALWAYS AND GIVE US A REPORT BACK WHEN THEY ARE
04:06:58 DONE.
04:06:58 THANK YOU.
04:06:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:07:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WASN'T GOING TO MAKE A STINK AND I
04:07:04 DIDN'T CALL VIK AND AT ALL.
04:07:07 I LOOKED AT ALL THOSE ITEMS.
04:07:09 AND BBE, WE LOOKED AT THE PROCESS.
04:07:15 I STILL THINK WE ARE SAYING WE ARE MEETING A GOAL, BUT WE
04:07:20 ARE MISSING A PIECE OF MEAT THERE SOMEHOW.
04:07:23 WE ARE STILL MISSING A PIECE.
04:07:25 BECAUSE WE ALWAYS SAY, WELL, WE ARE MEETING THE GUIDELINES.
04:07:29 BUT I DON'T THINK WE ARE MEETING ALL THE GUIDELINES.
04:07:32 I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOME TOUCH AND GO SITUATIONS.
04:07:37 I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE NO ON THE ITEM TODAY.
04:07:39 I KNOW WE HAVE GOT A WORKSHOP GOING.
04:07:41 AND TALKING WITH PEOPLE IN REFERENCE TO HOW THEY OPERATE.
04:07:48 SO WE DON'T MISS THAT PIECE OF MEAT, THAT PIECE OF SALAMI ON
04:07:53 THE SANDWICH.
04:07:54 I FEEL THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ARE MISSING AS IT RELATES
04:07:58 TO ALL MINORITIES, NOT JUST BLACK, IN THESE CONTRACTS.
04:08:03 ESPECIALLY THESE HIGH DOLLAR CONTRACTS.
04:08:05 YOU CAN'T FIND FOLKS, CONCRETE AND ASPHALT AND ROAD
04:08:11 PROJECTS.
04:08:12 YOU JUST CAN'T TELL ME THAT.
04:08:13 I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROCESS, AND THE
04:08:19 MISSING PIECE OF THE SANDWICH.
04:08:20 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:08:21 I YIELD BACK BUT AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THE CONTRACTS
04:08:25 UP.
04:08:27 WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
04:08:29 SOMEBODY RESULTS TO COME BACK, HOPEFULLY WHEN WE HAVE AUDIT
04:08:37 REFERENCE THE POLICEMAN AND SOME OF THE WORKSHOPS THAT WE
04:08:39 CAN LOOK AT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING SO WE DON'T MISS THE
04:08:42 MARK.
04:08:43 THANKS.
04:08:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:08:45 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:08:46 >>LUIS VIERA: AND WE ALL OBVIOUSLY I THINK HERE ON CITY
04:08:50 COUNCIL WANT DIVERSITY ON OUR CONTRACTS.
04:08:53 AND I AGREE WITH THOSE AND I DIDN'T WANT TO POINT OUT SOME
04:08:58 OF THE AREAS THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE SERVING, NORTH
04:09:01 NEBRASKA, EAST COLUMBUS AREA, AS WELL AS THE WALK/BIKE
04:09:07 INITIATIVE AND THE COMPLETE STREETS INITIATIVE THAT THE
04:09:11 46th STREET FROM BUSCH AND FOWLER, AND I BELIEVE THIS
04:09:14 ALSO INCLUDES A ROUNDABOUT AT BOUGAINVILLEA AREA, AND THIS
04:09:19 IS SOMETHING THAT THE FOLKS ON BUSCH AND FOWLER, VERY
04:09:23 DIVERSE COMMUNITY, ECONOMICALLY, CULTURALLY, RACIALLY,
04:09:27 ETHICALLY, ET CETERA, HAVE REALLY BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO.
04:09:30 SO I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THESE PROJECTS THAT I THINK ARE
04:09:33 STELLAR, AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT WITHOUT HARPING ON IT
04:09:37 TOO MUCH, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MENTIONED THIS
04:09:39 NOT TOO LONG AGO, THAT WE ARE HOLDING HALF A BILLION DOLLARS
04:09:43 IN FUND FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PENNY SALES TAX BECAUSE OF A
04:09:47 LAWSUIT, AND THESE GREAT PROJECTS AS WONDERFUL AS THEY ARE,
04:09:51 WE COULD BE DIAGNOSE 60 TIMES THAT IF WE HAD THAT MONEY
04:09:55 AVAILABLE.
04:09:55 SO I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO THESE PROJECTS.
04:10:00 THANK YOU.
04:10:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:10:02 ANYBODY ELSE?
04:10:03 IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE
04:10:06 RESOLUTION?
04:10:06 >> SO MOVED.
04:10:11 DO WE DO ALL THREE AT ONCE, MR. CHAIR?
04:10:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE PART 1 AND PART 2, 61 AND 62.
04:10:17 YOU ALSO HAVE, I BELIEVE TWO, MORE.
04:10:20 THEN 63 AND 64.
04:10:21 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL MOVE 61.
04:10:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:10:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:10:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:10:29 ANY OPPOSED?
04:10:30 ALL RIGHT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 62?
04:10:32 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL MOVE 62.
04:10:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:10:36 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:10:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:10:39 ANY OPPOSED?
04:10:40 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL MOVE 63.
04:10:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
04:10:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
04:10:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:10:52 ANY OPPOSED?
04:10:53 ITEM NUMBER 64.
04:10:54 COUNCILMAN VIERA, I DO WANT TO FINISH IT ALL?
04:10:57 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL MOVE 64.
04:10:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
04:11:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:11:02 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:11:04 ALL RIGHT.
04:11:05 ITEM NUMBER 65 IS A PART ONE OF TWO WITH 66.
04:11:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE GOT ALL FOUR OF THOSE.
04:11:17 >> YES, SIR.
04:11:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND A MEMO FROM MR. ROGERO OUR CFO
04:11:22 TRANSMITTING A SUMMARY REPORT FOR THESE AGENDA ITEMS.
04:11:24 IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM
04:11:28 65?
04:11:29 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:11:30 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:11:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND WITH A COMMENT.
04:11:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD, SIR.
04:11:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THESE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN US AND THE
04:11:47 COUNTY ARE NEVER EASY, BUT I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO THE
04:11:50 COUNTY.
04:11:50 THEY ARE THE PASS-THROUGH AGENCY FOR THESE LARGE CARES
04:11:54 DOLLARS, AND APPARENTLY THEY ARE GIVING US SOME ADDITIONAL
04:11:59 $10 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR
04:12:04 VARIOUS PURPOSES.
04:12:06 SO, ANYWAY, I JUST THINK IT SHOULDN'T GO UNMENTIONED THAT WE
04:12:11 HAVE A COOPERATIVE AND FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEW
04:12:14 COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MS. WISE AND HER STAFF, AND EVERYBODY
04:12:20 IS PLAYING NICE.
04:12:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
04:12:23 A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
04:12:26 DINGFELDER.
04:12:28 ITEM NUMBER 65.
04:12:30 AYE.
04:12:33 WE'LL TAKE THEM SEPARATE.
04:12:34 DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON 66?
04:12:36 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:12:39 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:12:40 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:12:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:12:43 AYE.
04:12:44 ANY OPPOSED?
04:12:45 ALL RIGHT.
04:12:49 ITEM NUMBER 67.
04:12:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
04:12:53 CORRECT, MADAM CLERK?
04:12:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND ITEM 68 AS WELL.
04:12:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
04:12:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 69 WE HEARD FROM A
04:13:00 GENTLEMAN DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:13:03 I'M SORRY, REVEREND WILLIE DIXON.
04:13:06 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM JORGE MARTIN TRANSMITTING A REPORT.
04:13:11 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
04:13:13 HEARING NONE.
04:13:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK NUMBER 69 WAS IN PERSON, WASN'T
04:13:21 IT?
04:13:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE MR. MATTHEW IS ONLINE IF YOU
04:13:27 LOOK AT THE SCREEN.
04:13:29 MR. MASSEY.
04:13:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY: MR. MARTIN HAD AN APPOINTMENT SO I AM
04:13:34 TAKING OVER THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR HIM.
04:13:36 WE DID DISTRIBUTE A MEMORANDUM TO YOU ALL PREVIOUSLY
04:13:39 REGARDING THE INFORMATION THAT REVEREND DICKSON PROVIDED YOU
04:13:44 TO I BELIEVE IN OCTOBER.
04:13:46 THE PURPOSE OF THE MEMORANDUM WAS TO SHOW YOU THAT WE WORK
04:13:51 WITH THE INFORMATION HE PROVIDED TO US SUBSTANTIVELY.
04:13:54 THERE IS ALSO A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ISSUE AS WELL BECAUSE
04:13:58 OF THE AGE OF THE TRANSACTION TO WHICH HE IS REFERRING.
04:14:02 WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION THAT HE PROVIDES TO ALL OF
04:14:04 YOU ALL YESTERDAY, AND I LISTENED TO HIS PRESENTATION THIS
04:14:07 MORNING, AND WE RESPECTFULLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A
04:14:13 VALID LEGAL CLAIM REALLY THAT THE COACH HAS WITH TAMPA CITY
04:14:18 AT THIS TIME.
04:14:19 SO COUNCIL IS AWARE, ANY CONTRACTUAL CLAIM, CLAIM FOR BREACH
04:14:23 OF CONTRACT, TO BE PART OF THE CONTRACT MUST BE IN WRITING,
04:14:26 APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, SIGNED BY THE MAYOR, AND WE JUST
04:14:29 HAVEN'T SEEN THAT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION FROM COACH, AND
04:14:33 REALLY, UNDERSTANDING HE MAY NOT AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT,
04:14:39 WHOEVER WORKS FOR WILLEY DIXON, HE DISAGREES WITH THAT
04:14:45 ASSESSMENT.
04:14:45 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE
04:14:47 QUESTIONS.
04:14:48 BUT THAT'S OUR REPORTED.
04:14:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME MAKE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
04:14:53 MR. MASSEY AND MR. MARTIN HAD A CONVERSATION, BUT I KNOW
04:14:57 IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE, MR. MASSEY.
04:15:01 THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, LAST COUNCIL, FOR MY PRESENTATION,
04:15:06 THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED DO NOT MATCH ANY RECORDS
04:15:08 THAT WE HAVE.
04:15:09 WE THINK CAN'T LOCATE ANY RECORDS OF THE COACH FOUNDATION
04:15:14 SHOWING THERE WAS A RELATION, IS THAT CORRECT?
04:15:17 >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE HAVE FOUND NO DOCUMENTATION SHOWING
04:15:20 THERE WAS A CONTRACT THAT SAYS WHAT REVEREND DIXON REALLY
04:15:23 SAYS AS REPRESENTED TO YOU ALL VERBALLY AND THE DOCUMENT HE
04:15:27 PROVIDED WE DO NOT BELIEVE AMOUNTS TO THAT TYPE OF CONTRACT,
04:15:29 SO WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT HE PRESENTED ANYTHING OF VALID
04:15:34 LEGAL CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE
04:15:36 TRANSACTIONS, SIR.
04:15:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS COINCIDING WITH
04:15:44 ANY DOCUMENT, WE CAN'T FIND, CORRECT?
04:15:48 >> YES, SIR.
04:15:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND TO VALIDATE WHATEVER RECORD HE HAD OR
04:15:53 POSSIBLY MAY BE TO COME UP WITH IF THIS POSSIBLY HAPPENED,
04:15:56 OR --
04:15:57 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
04:15:58 AND REALLY UNLESS HE HAS SOME DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT
04:16:00 HE'S PROVIDED -- AND THE SAME SORT OF PRESENTATION AS I
04:16:06 UNDERSTAND FROM MR. MARTIN OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR
04:16:09 YEARS.
04:16:09 SO IF HE'S GOT SOME DIFFERENT INFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL
04:16:12 LOOK AT IT.
04:16:13 BUT IF HE DOESN'T REALLY, IF HE STILL THINKS HE HAS A VALID
04:16:16 LEGAL CLAIM, HE REALLY NEEDS TO ASSERT THAT TO THE COURT AT
04:16:23 THIS TIME.
04:16:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:16:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MASSEY?
04:16:30 THERE YOU ARE.
04:16:34 IN HIS LETTER DATED SEPTEMBER 7th, REVEREND DIXON MAKES
04:16:40 REFERENCE TO A CLAIM POSSIBLY BEING TIME BARRED WITH STATUE
04:16:48 OF LIMITATION, A REFERENCE TO STATUE OF LIMITATION, 95.231
04:16:54 FLORIDA STATUTES, EVER SINCE 2008.
04:17:02 I GUESS I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT,
04:17:05 BECAUSE IF AT SOME POINT HE HAD A LEGITIMATE CLAIM AGAINST
04:17:11 THE CITY, AND THEN FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER IT BECAME TIME
04:17:17 BARRED, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS PERHAPS FROM A
04:17:23 MORAL -- A MORAL PERSPECTIVE, IF WE OWED SOMEBODY SOME
04:17:28 MONEY, AND THEY DIDN'T GET IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S
04:17:33 SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT.
04:17:35 BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NECESSARILY THE CASE, BECAUSE I
04:17:38 DON'T SEE IN YOUR MEMORANDUM, I DON'T SEE YOU MAKING ANY
04:17:42 REFERENCE TO STATUE OF LIMITATIONS.
04:17:44 I ONLY SEE THAT BEING REFERENCED IN HIS LETTER.
04:17:49 SO IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING ME, BECAUSE I AM RAMBLING A LITTLE
04:17:52 BIT, IT'S LATE IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING
04:17:54 ME, YOU KNOW, DID HE HAVE A VALID CLAIM AS RELATED TO ANY OF
04:18:00 THESE MATTERS THAT HAVE NOW TIME BARRED?
04:18:03 >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE DON'T BELIEVE SO.
04:18:06 THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE MEMORANDUM.
04:18:08 HE MADE SEVERAL CLAIMS I BELIEVE IN 2019 TO THE CITY OF
04:18:12 TAMPA, AND OUR RESPONSE WAS ANY POTENTIAL CLAIM WAS BARRED
04:18:17 BY THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.
04:18:19 WHEN HE CAME FORWARD AGAIN TO YOU ALL WITH THE INFORMATION
04:18:23 HE PROVIDED YOU, WE LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION WITHOUT
04:18:27 REFERRING TO THE STATUE OF LIMITATIONS.
04:18:29 WE WANTED AS STATED, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, TO SEE IF
04:18:33 PUTTING THE STATUE OF LIMITATION ISSUE ASIDE, WHETHER THERE
04:18:37 WAS SOME VALID CLAIM BASED ON THE INFORMATION HE PROVIDED.
04:18:40 SO WE LOOKED AT IT, AS IF THERE WAS NO STATUE OF LIMITATIONS
04:18:44 ISSUE, AND WE COULD NOT FIND A LEGAL BASIS FOR THE CLAIM AT
04:18:47 THIS POINT IN TIME BASED ON THE INFORMATION HE PROVIDED US.
04:18:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CLEAR
04:18:55 THAT UP FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST HIDE
04:18:58 BEHIND LEGAL AND TECHNICAL -- TECHNICALITIES.
04:19:04 WE ALWAYS WANT TO TRY TO STRIVE AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
04:19:06 BUT IN THIS CASE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, OUR RESEARCH IS
04:19:13 CONTRARY TO HIS CONCLUSIONS, I GUESS.
04:19:15 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
04:19:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. GUDES, FOR BRINGING THIS
04:19:20 UP.
04:19:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:19:23 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. MASSEY, SINCE IT'S NOT IN LITIGATION,
04:19:29 THIS MORNING, I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM SAY -- AND I HAVE SPOKEN
04:19:32 TO HIM SINCE, BUT THIS MORNING I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM SAY
04:19:38 THIS OR OTHER PROPERTIES.
04:19:39 I KNOW WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE USING TO PARTNER
04:19:41 REQUEST OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
04:19:43 IS IT POSSIBLE SINCE WE ARE NOT IN LITIGATION THAT WE CAN
04:19:46 PUT HIM IN TOUCH WITH A DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THERE IS
04:19:51 SOMETHING?
04:19:52 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
04:19:53 I MEAN, HE CAN WORK WITH OUR STAFF AND RESPOND TO RFPs AND
04:20:00 PROPOSALS.
04:20:01 I THINK HE APPROACHED US ON THAT IN THE PAST.
04:20:04 AND THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE VEHICLE IF HE WANTS TO
04:20:07 PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON PROJECTS NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
04:20:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE SOMEONE -- SOMEONE TELL ME IF IT'S
04:20:14 APPROPRIATE OR NOT -- IS THERE SOMEONE IN THAT DEPARTMENT
04:20:16 WHO WE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO ASK TO COACH HIM OR GUIDE HIM?
04:20:25 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PERSON, BUT THE
04:20:30 ACTION MANAGER CAIN AND ABBYE FEELEY WHO IS OVER THAT.
04:20:39 AND IF THEY HAVE RFP OPPORTUNITIES OR PROGRAMMING
04:20:43 OPPORTUNITIES THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY
04:20:44 PROCESS, AND TRY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY -- AS WE PARTNER
04:20:50 WITH OTHER NOT FOR PROFITS IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
04:20:53 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK MR. GUDES BROUGHT THIS UP SO IF HE
04:20:57 WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT IF MY COLLEAGUES WANTED, MAYBE
04:21:01 MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE
04:21:04 POSSIBILITIES OR TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF APPLYING FOR RFP IN
04:21:08 THE FUTURE.
04:21:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING ON THE
04:21:13 CASE, AND I THINK WE ALL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT REVEREND
04:21:18 DIXON IS A LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA, ALWAYS WORKING IN THE
04:21:21 COMMUNITY TO BE DO THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
04:21:23 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FINANCE A DEAL, VERBAL DEAL WAS
04:21:27 BACK IN THE DAY, WE DON'T KNOW, BACK IN THAT DAY, WE DID
04:21:30 HAVE SOME HIRING ISSUES AND DEALS MADE THAT WE DON'T KNOW
04:21:35 ABOUT, AND I THINK THE CITY MAY STILL OWE THEM BECAUSE
04:21:38 CERTAIN PEOPLE SAID THOSE THINGS BACK IN THE DAY BUT THEY
04:21:41 ARE NO LONGER WITH THE CITY SO WE CAN'T VALIDATE OR KNOW
04:21:44 ABOUT.
04:21:45 SO THAT SITUATION I FEEL BAD ABOUT, BUT IF MR. MASSEY COULD
04:21:50 GET WITH HOUSING AND MAKE MS. FEELEY AND MRS. HENDERSON AND
04:21:55 MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS
04:21:58 HELPING WITH HIS FOUNDATION AND HELPING HIM WHAT LONG, I
04:22:02 THINK THAT WOULD BE A NICE GESTURE FROM THE CITY'S
04:22:04 STANDPOINT, MR. MASSEY.
04:22:06 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
04:22:07 I WILL DEFINITELY ASK ACD TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND SEE WHAT
04:22:12 OPPORTUNITIES, HOW TO PARTNER WITH HIM IN THE FUTURE.
04:22:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
04:22:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:22:20 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 70.
04:22:22 A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
04:22:30 MR. MASSEY.
04:22:31 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A MOTION MADE BY
04:22:34 COUNCILMAN CARLSON REQUESTING THAT WE PREPARE AN ORDINANCE
04:22:38 THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT WHEN WE PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
04:22:44 TO COMPANIES THAT TYPICALLY THEY MUST PROVIDE REPORTING
04:22:50 INFORMATION TO US, THAT THEY DO SO UNDER A SWORN AFFIDAVIT
04:22:53 SO THAT WE HAVE AN OFFICER ATTESTING TO THE ACCURACY OF THE
04:22:59 INFORMATION, AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
04:23:02 I HAVE SPOKEN WITHIN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:23:04 I THINK ONE EXCEPTION THAT WE PROVIDED FOR TAX EXEMPTIONS
04:23:10 THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HE WOULD LIKE
04:23:14 TO US REMOVE THE LAST PORTION OF THAT PHRASE INCLUDING
04:23:16 WITHOUT LIMITATIONS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND I CAN -- --
04:23:20 STRIKE THAT. IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A MATERIAL EFFECT ON
04:23:22 WHAT WE ARE DOING.
04:23:23 AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHERS, AND WE ARE HERE FOR ANY
04:23:31 OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THIS
04:23:33 FINALIZED SO WE CAN GET THIS TO YOU FOR FIRST READING.
04:23:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
04:23:42 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO YOU AND CAROLE POST FOR
04:23:45 RESEARCHING THIS AND COMING UP WITH IT.
04:23:47 I THINK THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKING SURE THAT WE
04:23:50 ARE ABLE TO REINVENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND MAKE IT
04:23:53 EFFECTIVE, WHERE THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IN
04:23:57 PARTICULAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET ANY KIND OF INCENTIVE,
04:24:00 MONETARY INCENTIVE OR REBATE, WE OUGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT
04:24:04 PEOPLE FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES, AND FOLLOW WHATEVER THAT COME.
04:24:10 SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING IT
04:24:13 COME BACK.
04:24:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
04:24:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MASSEY, WILL THIS THEN GO THROUGH YOUR
04:24:26 OFFICE?
04:24:28 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
04:24:29 WE'LL HAVE IT PLACED UP ON THE FIRST READING FOR THE
04:24:32 DECEMBER 3rd AGENDA.
04:24:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
04:24:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:24:37 ITEM NUMBER 71 WAS CONTINUED TO FEBRUARY.
04:24:39 ITEM NUMBER 72, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION INITIATED BY COUNCIL
04:24:43 MEMBER VIERA.
04:24:45 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:24:47 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:24:49 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
04:24:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:24:52 AYE.
04:24:53 ANY OPPOSED?
04:24:54 ALL RIGHT.
04:24:54 ITEM NUMBER 73.
04:24:56 I THINK EVERYTHING WAS ADDRESSED THIS MORNING, CORRECT,
04:24:58 COUNCILMAN CITRO?
04:25:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:25:02 NO, IT WHAT WAS MOVED TO JANUARY 14th AT 9:00 P.M.
04:25:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF REPORTS.
04:25:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: STAFF REPORTS.
04:25:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
04:25:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.
04:25:12 ITEM NUMBER 74 IS A REQUEST FOR A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE.
04:25:17 IT WILL COME IN THE FEBRUARY 25th WORKSHOP AT 10:30 A.M.
04:25:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MOVE THE CONTINUANCE BUT I HAVE A
04:25:23 QUESTION ON THE CONTINUANCE.
04:25:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
04:25:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THAT'S OKAY.
04:25:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
04:25:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS MS. FEELEY STILL ON THE LINE?
04:25:35 >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, I AM.
04:25:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABBEY, I REALIZE THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND
04:25:47 ENFORCEMENT, ET CETERA, IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE, AND THAT'S
04:25:50 WHY I AM GLAD TO MOVE YOUR 60 DAY CONTINUANCE REQUEST.
04:25:55 BUT AS RELATED TO THAT SPECIFIC ESTABLISHMENT IN
04:25:59 CHANNELSIDE, ARE WE STILL PROCEEDING WITH ANY TYPE OF SHORT
04:26:06 OR LONG-TERM ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS?
04:26:10 I THINK IF WE JUST SAY, WELL, WE WILL JUST HANG OUT FOR 60
04:26:14 DAYS, WE WILL HAVE SOME UNHAPPY PEOPLE THROUGH THE HOLIDAY
04:26:18 THAT LIVE UP THERE.
04:26:22 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT.
04:26:27 WE DID HAVE A CALL WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM.
04:26:31 THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MITIGATION MECHANISMS THAT THEY ARE
04:26:36 WORKING ON.
04:26:37 IN ADDITION, BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THE OUTSIDE SPEAKERS
04:26:42 WERE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REMOVED.
04:26:45 I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN REMOVED, THOUGH I AM NOT SURE IF
04:26:48 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ IS ON THIS AFTERNOON WITH ME.
04:26:53 SHE HAS BEEN HEADING UP A LOT OF THOSE EFFORTS.
04:26:57 THEY DID REMOVE THOSE SPEAKERS FROM THE OUTSIDE AREA, SO
04:27:02 THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY AMPLIFIED SOUND OCCURRING OUTSIDE,
04:27:08 WHICH IS NOW IN COMPLIANCE, OR I DON'T BELIEVE IT COMPLIES,
04:27:15 BUT WOULD MOVE THAT PLOT MORE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE
04:27:18 REGULATIONS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY.
04:27:20 I BELIEVE THEY ARE ALSO UNDERTAKING ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO
04:27:26 WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE BUILDING TO IMPOSE
04:27:32 ADDITIONAL SOUND MITIGATION.
04:27:34 SO WITH EFFORTS ARE STILL BEING UNDERTAKEN UNDER THAT
04:27:39 ENFORCEMENT.
04:27:40 REALLY WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR IS THE ABILITY TO DO SOME
04:27:43 ADDITIONAL RESEARCH FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY IN RELATION TO THE
04:27:47 ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THE WEEK BEFORE LAST TO SEE WHAT
04:27:50 OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING, AND COME BACK TO YOU IN OUR
04:27:53 WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY TO REALLY PROVIDE TO YOU SOME OPTIONS,
04:27:59 AS WELL AS SOME RESEARCH SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE A
04:28:05 COMPREHENSIVE DECISION.
04:28:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE I AM MODIFY MY MOTION SLIGHTLY TO
04:28:09 ASK YOU TO COME BACK TO US IN DECEMBER AS RELATED TO THAT
04:28:12 PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT, TO CONTINUE TO GIVE US UPDATES,
04:28:17 AND MAYBE REACH OUT TO SOME OF THOSE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THAT
04:28:20 BUILDING TO SEE HOW THAT RELATIONSHIP IS GOING, AND IF IT'S
04:28:25 CONTINUING TO IMPROVE.
04:28:26 AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AND MR. GUDES MIGHT BE
04:28:29 ABLE TO HELP ME ON THIS.
04:28:31 THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE TO US VERY EMOTIONALLY ABOUT THESE
04:28:35 BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM BOXES, DRIVING BY HIS PLACE, AND I
04:28:43 REMEMBER HIM FROM MANY YEARS AGO.
04:28:44 HE'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT ON BEING UPSET ABOUT THOSE, THE
04:28:48 BOOM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL THEM, THE BIG BASSES IN
04:28:53 PEOPLES' CARS. ANYWAY, IS THAT A PARTICULAR PART OF EAST
04:28:59 TAMPA THAT SUFFERS FROM THAT, OR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE
04:29:05 THERE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD, I GUESS, THAT ARE DEALING WITH
04:29:09 THAT ISSUE, AND DOES OUR CODE -- I GUESS I AM ASKING YOU,
04:29:13 MS. FEELEY, AS WELL AS MR. GUDES, YOU KNOW, DOES OUR CODE
04:29:16 ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THAT?
04:29:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, MR. DINGFELDER.
04:29:21 IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, LOUD MUSIC IS A BIG THING.
04:29:26 AND SOMETIMES THAT NOISE BLARES OUT FROM THOSE CARS.
04:29:35 IT'S LIKE ANY THINKING, IF THE NOISE IS LOUD AND AMPLIFIED
04:29:41 SOUND INSIDE, SPEAKERS, AND IN EAST TAMPA ALL THE TIME.
04:29:48 JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO REALLY -- BY THE TIME THE POLICE GET
04:29:52 THERE, THE CAR IS GONE AND YOU CAN'T FIND THAT CAR.
04:29:55 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.
04:29:59 IF WE GET THEM, WE CAN CITE THEM
04:30:04 IN SOME OTHER CITIES, THEY HAVE A BETTER FIX THAN WE HAVE
04:30:08 RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE
04:30:12 HAS THAT'S WORKING BUT IT'S A TOUGH BATTLE RIGHT NOW.
04:30:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MRS. ZELMAN, YOUR LEGAL COUNCIL THAT I
04:30:19 SEE HERE TODAY REMAINING, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS GIVEN UP ON IT.
04:30:23 BUT DO YOU RECALL, DO YOU KNOW, DOES THE NOISE ORDINANCE
04:30:26 RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY HAVE ADDRESSED MOVING VIOLATIONS IN
04:30:32 DECIBELS AS RELATED TO MUSIC COMING OUT OF CARS?
04:30:37 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW OFFHAND.
04:30:39 I CAN LOOK AT THE CODE REAL QUICK AND RESPOND IN A FEW
04:30:42 MINUTES IF YOU LIKE.
04:30:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THERE ARE COMPLAINTS COMING FROM OTHER
04:30:52 PARTS OF THE CITY, YBOR CITY AND DOWNTOWN, THE NOISE LEVEL
04:30:56 COMING FROM MOTORCYCLES.
04:30:57 I BEING A MOTORCYCLE RIDER MYSELF, I DON'T WANT TO BRING IT
04:31:01 UP, BUT THERE ARE THOSE COMPLAINTS ALSO.
04:31:04 CAN YOU CHECK ON THOSE AS WELL?
04:31:06 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WILL.
04:31:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. FEELEY, ARE YOU WORKING WITH ATTORNEY
04:31:10 SMITH AND SIMONE IN REFERENCE TO MR. MASSEY RELATIVE TO
04:31:20 CHURCH THAT HAVE AMPLIFIED SOUND?
04:31:22 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM NOT AWARE OF A CHURCH WITH AMPLIFIED
04:31:28 SOUND ISSUES.
04:31:30 THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
04:31:36 SO IF WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, YOU NEED TO PROVIDE THAT
04:31:40 INFORMATION TO ME, AND I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
04:31:50 IN RELATION TO A CERTAIN ESTABLISHMENT [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
04:31:56 QUO YOU LIKE THAT ON DECEMBER 3rd?
04:31:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON SOMETHING
04:32:00 BECAUSE WE HAD A COMPLAINT AND THE POLICE WENT OUT TO ONE OF
04:32:02 THE PASTORS, AND DOWN THE ROAD THAT SO FAR, BUT APPARENTLY,
04:32:09 A LOT OF CHURCHES DEALING WITH COVID-19 ARE HAVING SERVICES
04:32:13 OUTSIDE.
04:32:14 AND WITH THE OUTDOOR AREA, AND THE MUSIC IS UP A LITTLE BIT,
04:32:19 AND THERE WAS AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED, AND IT GOT CALLED
04:32:23 TO MY ATTENTION.
04:32:24 I DID CALL DISTRICT 3 AND TALKED TO LEGAL ABOUT IT IN
04:32:27 RELATION TO CHURCH MEMBERS THAT WENT ON-SITE AND SAW SOME
04:32:30 ORDINANCES, AND THEY WERE A LITTLE OUTDATED SO I THERE WAS
04:32:33 RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE AND ALSO
04:32:37 LOOK AT I GUESS CHURCH VERSUS STATE SITUATION, WHEN CHURCHES
04:32:42 WERE EXEMPTED IN THE PAST BUT NOW SOMEHOW THEY GOT AN
04:32:48 ORDINANCE.
04:32:48 I JUST WONDERED IF YOU WERE PART OF THAT AND DURING THAT
04:32:51 WORKSHOP BRING US BACK SOMETHING BECAUSE A LOT OF CHURCHES
04:32:54 ARE OUTSIDE NOW.
04:32:55 I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A LOT OF CHURCH ISSUES, BUT SEE
04:33:00 WHAT WE CAN DO.
04:33:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY: UNDERSTOOD.
04:33:04 AND I WILL FOLLOW BACK ON THAT ITEM.
04:33:07 AND IF NOT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AS WE DISCUSS FOR THE
04:33:14 COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO NOISE FOR THE CITY.
04:33:16 >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS MORRIS MASSEY IN LEGAL.
04:33:22 I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT OF I HAVE SPOKEN TO SIMONE ABOUT
04:33:25 THIS, AND SHE HAS SPOKEN TO SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ AND SHE'S
04:33:29 AWARE THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED AND
04:33:31 ADDRESSED REQUEST THE ALCOHOL ORDINANCE, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE
04:33:37 THAT THE LEGAL PART COORDINATES WITH MS. FEELEY AND HER
04:33:40 STAFF AS WELL.
04:33:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU AS ALWAYS.
04:33:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
04:33:45 GO AHEAD.
04:33:46 >> IF I MAY, THROUGH THE WONDERS OF TECHNOLOGY, TIFF CODE ON
04:33:52 MY PHONE AND HAVE GOTTEN THREE TEXT MESSAGES FROM OUR STAFF
04:33:55 AS WELL AS CHIEF BENNETT FOUND APRIL STATE STATUTE ON HIS
04:33:59 PHONE.
04:33:59 OUR CODE AT SECTION 14-155, DOES PROHIBIT UNREASONABLY
04:34:07 EXCESSIVE NOISE FROM A VEHICLE, AND WE DEFINE THAT AS ANY
04:34:11 SOUND WHICH IS PLAINLY AUDIBLE IN A DISTANCE OF 507 FEET OR
04:34:14 MORE FROM THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME THAT IT IS HEARD SO THAT
04:34:17 IS ALREADY A VIOLATION OF OUR NOISE ORDINANCE.
04:34:20 AND THEN CHIEF BENNETT HANDED ME A STATE STATUTE WHICH MAKES
04:34:26 IT ILLEGAL FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE AMPLIFIED SOUND THAT'S
04:34:31 PLAINLY AUDIBLE AT A DISTANCE OF 100 FEET OR MORE FROM THE
04:34:35 VEHICLE.
04:34:36 SO UNDER BOTH STATE STATUTE AND OUR CODE, IT WOULD BE
04:34:41 ILLEGAL TO HAVE EXCESSIVE NOISE COMING FROM A MOTOR VEHICLE.
04:34:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S THE REMEDY FOR THE POLICE OFFICER
04:34:50 WHO PULLS UP NEXT TO A CAR THAT CLEARLY IS IN VIOLATION OF
04:34:54 EITHER THE STATE OR THE LOCAL?
04:34:59 ANYBODY?
04:35:01 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IT APPEARS THEY COULD CITE THEM UNDER THE
04:35:04 FLORIDA STATUTE.
04:35:05 IT'S A NONCRIMINAL TRAFFIC INFRACTION.
04:35:08 AND THEN OF COURSE UNDER OUR CODE IT WOULD BE ABLE TO CITE
04:35:11 SOMEONE UNDER OUR CODE SECTION 14-155.
04:35:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON THAT 14.155, IS THAT AMPLIFIED SOUND?
04:35:28 OR IS THAT SOUND COMING FROM THE MOTORS, ALSO?
04:35:34 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IT SIMPLY SAYS UNREASONABLY EXCESSIVE
04:35:37 NOISE THAT IS PLAINLY AUDIBLE WHEREVER THE VEHICLE.
04:35:41 SOUND FROM ANY VEHICLE.
04:35:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S NOT ONLY AMPLIFIED BUT HE COULD BE
04:35:51 THE MOTOR SOUND ITSELF?
04:35:54 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CORRECT.
04:35:55 THAT'S HOW I READ THAT.
04:35:57 >>> ANYBODY ELSE?
04:35:58 DO WE NEED ANY MOTIONS ON THIS?
04:36:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE DO.
04:36:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A PENDING MOTION ON THE 68.
04:36:08 NUMBER 74.
04:36:09 AND WHAT DID YOU SAY?
04:36:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FEBRUARY 25, 2021 AT 10:30 A.M. IS THE
04:36:15 REQUEST OF MS. FEELEY.
04:36:18 AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A SECOND TO THAT.
04:36:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT WORKSHOP OPEN?
04:36:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMETHING FOR 9:30 WOULD BE GOOD.
04:36:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM DINGFELDER.
04:36:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:36:33 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:36:34 AYE.
04:36:35 ANY OPPOSED?
04:36:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MR. DINGFELDER RAISED ANOTHER ISSUE
04:36:38 FOR FOLLOW-UP IN DECEMBER.
04:36:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DECEMBER 3rd?
04:36:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CHANNEL DISTRICT ISSUE.
04:36:45 IS THAT CORRECT?
04:36:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
04:36:48 MRS. FEELEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? ARE YOU OKAY WITH
04:36:52 COMING BACK TO US AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING?
04:36:57 WHAT DID YOU SAY, THE 3rd?
04:37:07 THE 17th WOULD BE FINE.
04:37:13 JUST A QUICK INPUT, DISCUSSION AND UPDATE ON THE ENFORCEMENT
04:37:19 ACTIONS OR THE COOPERATION ACTIONS AS RELATED TO THAT
04:37:23 CHANNELSIDE.
04:37:26 PARKS AND REC.
04:37:29 THAT'S MY MOTION.
04:37:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:37:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:37:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:37:36 ANY OPPOSED?
04:37:38 OKAY.
04:37:39 ITEM NUMBER 75.
04:37:43 THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THAT TO DECEMBER
04:37:46 3rd, I BELIEVE.
04:37:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE IT WAS.
04:37:48 IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM CLERK?
04:37:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE NEED A MOTION?
04:37:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS ALREADY DONE.
04:37:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
04:37:55 THAT CONCLUDE OUR AGENDA.
04:37:56 HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE NEW BUSINESS.
04:37:58 COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME?
04:38:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING TODAY.
04:38:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
04:38:06 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY TWO THINGS.
04:38:10 THANK YOU ALL MONTHS AGO FOR APPROVING AND RECOMMENDING THE
04:38:12 ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
04:38:14 I SAT IN THE LAST MEETING OF THAT GROUP YESTERDAY.
04:38:18 REMEMBER, THE MAYOR -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
04:38:29 THEY CAME TO BE SOME REALLY GOOD CONCLUSIONS.
04:38:32 THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO US IN I THINK FEBRUARY OR
04:38:34 MARCH WITH A PRESENTATION.
04:38:36 BUT THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR THAT.
04:38:37 ALSO, AFTER LAST WEEK'S MEETING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
04:38:42 ENVIRONMENT.
04:38:42 I MET WITH SIERRA CLUB AND SOME OTHER GROUPS, AND I TALKED
04:38:48 TO THEM ABOUT THEIR LONG-TERM PLAN, WHAT -- THEY ARE COMING
04:38:53 BACK TO US, I THINK, IN MARCH WITH A PROPOSAL THAT
04:38:56 COUNCILMAN CITRO HAD MADE, BUT IN THE CONVERSATION, THEY
04:39:00 TALKED ABOUT COMING BEFORE US FOR A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION
04:39:04 TO PRESENT KIND OF THE HOLISTIC PICTURE OF ALL THE THINGS
04:39:08 THEY WOULD LIKE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
04:39:11 SO I CAN READ IT OFF AND MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THAT.
04:39:16 OR IF MR. CITRO WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, AND I CAN SECOND IT.
04:39:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ALREADY STARTED.
04:39:22 >>BILL CARLSON: THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO TRY TO GET
04:39:27 INFORMATION OUT THERE SO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND OTHERS
04:39:30 CAN SEE WHAT THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS AND WHAT ALL THE
04:39:33 DIFFERENT ELEMENTS ARE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PROPOSE.
04:39:35 SO THAT THEY CAN ENGAGE IN A DIALOGUE.
04:39:37 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE SIERRA CLUB TO
04:39:40 MAKE A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION UNDER STAFF REPORTS, ON
04:39:45 JANUARY 14, TO PRESENT THEIR VISION FOR PROTECTING
04:39:49 ENVIRONMENT AND BUILDINGS AND SUSTAINABILITY.
04:39:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SECOND THAT.
04:39:52 AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NICHOLAS GLOVER, WHO IS WITH
04:39:56 THE CHAMBER, HAS ALREADY SET UP A MEETING WITH THE LARGE
04:40:01 CORPORATIONS, SOME OF THE SMALLER BUSINESSES, TO ALSO
04:40:03 DISCUSS THE SAME THING.
04:40:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT THAT TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION
04:40:07 UNDER CEREMONIAL AT THE START OF THE MEETING?
04:40:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO START OVER WITH THAT?
04:40:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF REPORTS, ONE DOES NOT KNOW.
04:40:16 PRESENTLY WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BUT ONE DOES NOT KNOW
04:40:18 WHEN STAFF REPORTS --
04:40:20 >>> AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:40:22 >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT.
04:40:25 >>> FOR JANUARY 14th?
04:40:27 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:40:29 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:40:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH THE SECOND.
04:40:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:40:34 AYE.
04:40:34 ANY OPPOSED?
04:40:36 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:40:37 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
04:40:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
04:40:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOTHING TODAY, THANK YOU.
04:40:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
04:40:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AS
04:40:48 USUAL.
04:40:48 I WANT TO SAY HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OUR CONSTITUENTS OUT
04:40:52 THERE, THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
04:40:54 WE THINK WON'T BE IN NEXT THURSDAY BUT I WISH EVERYONE OUT
04:40:56 THERE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
04:40:58 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF VENUES THAT WE WILL BE GIVING AWAY
04:41:01 FOOD FOR THE HOLIDAYS, IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO DON SO, YOU
04:41:04 CAN GO BY MOUNT ZION CHURCH AT 26th STREET AND COLUMBUS.
04:41:09 THE EAST TAMPA BUSINESS CIVIC ASSOCIATION DIANE HART WILL BE
04:41:13 GIVING AWAY BASKETS OF FOOD, TURKEYS AND SO FORTH.
04:41:17 ALSO PASTOR TOM JONES WILL HAVE A FOOD GIVEAWAY FOR
04:41:21 THANKSGIVING AT THE CYRUS GREEN RECREATIONAL CENTER ON THIS
04:41:25 SATURDAY.
04:41:25 BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE THIS SATURDAY.
04:41:27 IF YOU ARE IN NEED, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS SOME
04:41:30 THANKSGIVING, AND THEN HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYONE.
04:41:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:41:34 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
04:41:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MR. CHAIR, REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY.
04:41:40 NUMBER ONE, SETTING A DATE FOR A PREVIOUSLY MADE MOTION MADE
04:41:43 TO PROVIDE A COMMENDATION TO THE HONORABLE PAT FRANK.
04:41:47 MS. FRANK IS AVAILABLE TO RECEIVE THE COMMENDATION VIRTUALLY
04:41:51 AT THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL SESSION ON DECEMBER 3rd,
04:41:53 2020.
04:41:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA
04:41:56 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:41:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:42:00 AYE.
04:42:00 ANY OPPOSED?
04:42:02 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:42:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:42:04 SECONDLY, I MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION TO BE GIVEN AT TAMPA
04:42:08 CITY COUNCIL TO JUDGES RECOGNIZE BARBAS AND NICK NAZARETIAN,
04:42:22 THIS YEAR WILL BE TEN YEARS, A FOUNDATION THAT I HELPED
04:42:24 FOUND WITH SOME FRIEND OF MINE.
04:42:25 TEN YEARS AGO, AND TIME FLIES.
04:42:32 AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE TENTH YEAR THAT JUDGES NICK
04:42:37 NAZARETIAN AND CIRCUIT COURT BARBAS WILL SERVE AS SANTAS.
04:42:47 I LIKELY EXPECT THAT OTHER JUDGES WILL BE HERE IF I MAY
04:42:50 DURING CEREMONIAL.
04:42:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MET JUDGE NAZARETIAN AS A SANTA CLAUS
04:42:59 TEN YEARS AGO.
04:43:02 >>LUIS VIERA: AND HE'S SOMEWHAT OF A PROFESSIONAL SANTA
04:43:04 CLAUS.
04:43:05 HE GOES TO MIGRANT CAMPS ALL OVER.
04:43:07 AND I CALLED UP HIS BROTHER STEVE BARBAS AND ASKED HIM WOULD
04:43:14 YOUR BROTHER BE OFFENDED IF I ASKED IF HE WOULD BE SANTA
04:43:17 CLAUS?
04:43:18 HE SAID WHY?
04:43:19 I SAID, WELL, HE'S A BIG GUY TO BE SANTA CLAUS.
04:43:22 BUT WE ARE PROUD OF THE WORK THEY DO.
04:43:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:43:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL SECOND THAT WITH THE REQUEST THAT
04:43:28 THEY BOTH SHOW UP DRESSED AT SANTA CLAUS DURING THE
04:43:32 COMMENDATION.
04:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
04:43:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND WHAT DATE?
04:43:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THE 17th.
04:43:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THEY WANT TO COME IN PERSON?
04:43:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THEY WANT TO COME IN LIVE IF THEY MAY.
04:43:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL, YOU ARE RUINING IT FOR ME.
04:43:51 I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY SANTA CLAUS.
04:43:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
04:43:56 OPPOSED?
04:43:57 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION FOR THE
04:44:00 FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS SWIM TEAM WHO CAME IN SECOND AT
04:44:02 THE CLASS 3-A REGION CHAMPIONSHIP RECENTLY.
04:44:05 THIS WILL BE GIVEN ON-SITE AT FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL.
04:44:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A
04:44:11 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
04:44:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:44:14 AYE.
04:44:15 ANY OPPOSED?
04:44:16 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
04:44:18 >>LUIS VIERA: HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
04:44:19 >> I DID HAVE ONE MORE.
04:44:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:44:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
04:44:23 I FORGOT.
04:44:23 I WANTED TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO A BOY SCOUT, A NEW EAGLE
04:44:29 SCOUT, LUKE WIEZYCKI, AND WORKED VERY HARD.
04:44:37 HE HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES OF HIS OWN, NOT COVID RELATED BUT
04:44:42 HAD A HEALTH SHALL YOU OF HIS OWN THAT HE WORKED THROUGH AND
04:44:45 MANAGED TO CONTINUE ON HIS GREAT ACHIEVEMENT TO EAGLE SCOUT.
04:44:50 SO WE WILL PREPARE THE COMMENDATION AND PRESENT IT
04:44:55 ELSEWHERE.
04:44:55 >> SECOND.
04:44:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:44:58 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:45:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:45:01 ANY MOVED?
04:45:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:45:03 AND I WILL GET THE SPELLING TO THE CLERK.
04:45:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
04:45:07 MR. SHELBY, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
04:45:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, I DO, COUNCIL.
04:45:11 AND IT RELATES TO VOICE MAIL.
04:45:16 I RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY WITH
04:45:19 REGARD TO THE FLOW OF BUSINESS, AND THE IMPACT OF PUBLIC
04:45:24 COMMENT HAS HAD ON CITY COUNCIL'S AGENDA.
04:45:27 SO I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL, WE BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE END OF
04:45:31 LAST MEETING, AND THE QUESTION IS WHAT SORT OF DIRECTION
04:45:35 DOES COUNCIL WANT TO HAVE WITH REGARD TO HOW WE ADDRESS
04:45:38 PUBLIC COMMENTS, PARTICULARLY VOICE MAIL?
04:45:40 AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO USE THEIR PHONE FROM HOME TO
04:45:44 CALL IN LIVE.
04:45:45 THEY ARE ABLE TO COME IN HERE.
04:45:47 YOU CAN SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASKS.
04:45:50 AND PPE AND THE LIKE.
04:45:53 SO THE QUESTION IS, DOES COUNCIL -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
04:46:05 VERSUS LIVE PARTICIPATION WHICH IS NORMALLY WHAT'S BEEN DONE
04:46:07 TRADITIONALLY, WHEN WE TO Q TOTALLY -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
04:46:14 MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
04:46:15 NOW IT MAY MAKE LESSENS.
04:46:17 AND THE QUESTION WHICH HAS BEEN POSED TO ME WHICH I AM
04:46:20 STRUGGLING WITHIN IN THIS ERA OF A COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND ALL
04:46:24 THE ISSUES WE FACE IS HOW DO WE MOVE ALONG TO ADDRESS THE
04:46:28 PEOPLE'S BUSINESS AND STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC GIVE THEM THE
04:46:31 RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MEANINGFUL INPUT BEFORE COUNCIL
04:46:34 TAKES FINAL ACTION?
04:46:35 SO WE TRIED TO ATTEMPT TO BRING IT UP, I BELIEVE, AT A
04:46:39 PREVIOUS MEETING, BUT COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN GUDES
04:46:42 WERE ABSENT AND NOW I KNOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA OBVIOUSLY IS
04:46:47 NOT HERE NOW, BUT THE QUESTION IS WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING
04:46:49 COMING UP IN DECEMBER, AND WE HAVE TWO REGULAR MEETINGS
04:46:52 COMING UP IN DECEMBER.
04:46:55 YOUR RULES IN THAT RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED WAY BACK IN
04:46:58 APRIL CONTEMPLATED VOICE MAIL.
04:47:00 YOU CAN WAIVE THAT, BUT THE NOTICE STILL CONTAINS THAT.
04:47:03 SO I NEED SOME SORT OF DIRECTION.
04:47:05 IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE ME DIRECTION.
04:47:07 OTHERWISE, WE CAN PREDICT THAT YOUR LAST MEETING WENT FROM
04:47:11 ABOUT 9 A.M. TO ABOUT 5-MILLIMETER AND THIS MEETING TODAY IS
04:47:15 GOING FROM ABOUT 9 A.M. TO 5 P.M.
04:47:17 SO FOR SOME SORT OF DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WISHES TO ADDRESS
04:47:21 IT, OR WE ADDRESS IT AT THE MEETING INVOLVED.
04:47:24 YOUR PLEASURE.
04:47:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
04:47:26 WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM AND ADDRESS THIS NOW?
04:47:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS IT TODAY, IT WILL BE
04:47:35 TOO LATE TO ADDRESS IT ON DECEMBER 3rd.
04:47:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD RATHER HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT
04:47:39 EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON.
04:47:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S MY OPINION.
04:47:46 I'M FINE WITH THAT.
04:47:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO A PROBLEM WITH VOICE MAIL TO FOLLOW
04:47:50 UP, YOU CAN'T DISTRIBUTE THAT OUT AND HAVE PEOPLE HAVE AN
04:47:53 EXPECTATION THAT WHEN YOU GET THAT ON A WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON,
04:47:57 YOU WILL HAVE IT BY THE TIME THE MEETING ON THURSDAY
04:48:03 MORNING.
04:48:03 THAT'S NOT REALISTIC.
04:48:05 SO IF THEY ARE NOT AT THE MEETING, WE CAN STILL HAVE THE
04:48:08 OPTION, BUT THEY NEED TO NOBODY YOU MAY NOT HEAR IT TIMELY
04:48:13 AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE
04:48:15 SATISFIED WITH.
04:48:16 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, WE CAN HAVE THE
04:48:20 MECHANISM FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE VOICE MAIL, AND WITH THE
04:48:22 EXPECTATION THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL ON THEIR OWN TIME
04:48:26 LISTEN TO IT JUST LIKE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO READ E-MAILS THAT
04:48:29 COME TO US ON SPECIFIC TOPICS.
04:48:31 BUT JUST I THINK AT THIS POINT, NOW THAT WE ARE BECOMING
04:48:35 MORE LIVE, GIVE FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SEND A VOICE
04:48:41 MAIL I THINK COULD OVERBURDEN THE TIME OF COUNCIL
04:48:43 PERSPECTIVELY, IF ABUSED.
04:48:46 THAT'S MY OPINION.
04:48:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY THOUGHTS, SUGGESTIONS FROM COUNCIL
04:48:52 MEMBERS?
04:48:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AGREE WITH MR. VIERA.
04:48:58 THAT POOR DEPUTY CLERK, SHE HAS BEEN WORKING HER TAIL OFF.
04:49:01 SHE'S DOING A LOT AT HOME AS WELL.
04:49:05 ON CRA MEETINGS, NIGHT MEETINGS, AND SHE'S WORKING ROUND THE
04:49:08 CLOCK.
04:49:09 SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, VOICE MAIL THAT COMES IN AT OUR
04:49:14 LEISURE.
04:49:15 WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPABILITIES NOW.
04:49:17 WE HAVE THE VIRTUAL FOR CALLING IN.
04:49:19 WE HAVE THE -- THERE ARE A LOT OF MECHANISMS.
04:49:23 THOSE WHO WANT TO GET TO US AND STILL E-MAIL TO GET TO US.
04:49:27 SO I AGREE WITH MR. VIERA.
04:49:29 I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT FOURTH MECHANISM WHEN WE HAVE GOT
04:49:32 SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN PLACE NOW.
04:49:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OFFICIAL MOTION NEEDED?
04:49:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, COUNCIL, YES.
04:49:39 BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT TWO THINGS.
04:49:41 NUMBER ONE, YOUR NOTICE, YOUR LEGAL NOTICE REFERENCES IT,
04:49:45 AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR RESOLUTION THAT YOU PASSED TODAY
04:49:49 WILL REFERENCE IT.
04:49:50 SO HERE IS MY RECOMMENDATION IF COUNCIL WISHES.
04:49:52 IF YOU DIRECT ME TO DELETE THAT FROM THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT,
04:49:56 AND THEN WHEN YOU START YOUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 3rd,
04:49:58 COME IN WITH A RESOLUTION THAT ADDRESSES THAT ISSUE AND
04:50:02 AMENDS THIS ISSUE, THEN I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD
04:50:04 BE ABLE TO SUFFICE SO THE PEOPLE WOULD KNOW NOW THAT VOICE
04:50:09 MAIL WILL NOT ANY LONGER BE AN OPTION AT LEAST FOR DECEMBER
04:50:13 3rd, AND THE NOTICE WILL REFLECT THAT, AND COUNCIL WILL
04:50:16 TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE 3rd TO ADOPT THAT PROCESS.
04:50:21 AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO KNOW TODAY.
04:50:25 SO IF THAT WERE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION, I CAN START THE
04:50:27 BALL.
04:50:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA
04:50:31 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
04:50:33 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:50:34 AYE.
04:50:35 ANY OPPOSED?
04:50:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU COUNCIL.
04:50:37 HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
04:50:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:50:40 AND I HAVE NOTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS.
04:50:41 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
04:50:44 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM
04:50:46 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:50:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:50:48 ANY OPPOSED?
04:50:50 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
04:51:42 (CITY COUNCIL MEETING ADJOURNED.)
04:51:54
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