TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 3, 2020
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
09:02:49 I YIELD TO COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER FOR THE INVOCATION.
09:02:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, GENTLEMEN,
09:02:58 PUBLIC.
09:02:58 IT'S MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE THE ASSISTANT RABBI OF THE
09:03:03 CONGREGATION SCHAARAI ZEDEK, MY SYNAGOGUE, FOR THE
09:03:07 INVOCATION.
09:03:08 RABBI MICHAEL WEISS WAS ORDAINED AS A RABBI FROM HEBREW
09:03:12 UNION COLLEGE IN CINCINNATI JUST LAST YEAR IN MAY OF 2020
09:03:16 AFTER HAVING SERVED AS A STUDENT RABBI IN RICHMOND, INDIANA,
09:03:20 AND SIOUX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA. THAT MUST HAVE BEEN
09:03:24 INTERESTING, RABBI.
09:03:25 HE WAS ALSO THE RABBINIC INTERN AT ROCKDALE TEMPLE IN
09:03:28 CINCINNATI, GREW UP IN CONNECTICUT AND TORONTO AND IS
09:03:31 DELIGHTED TO BE SERVING AS OUR RABBI AT SCHAARAI ZEDEK AS OF
09:03:35 THIS PAST SUMMER.
09:03:36 RABBI MICHAEL WEISS IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO ACCOMPANYING
09:03:40 PEOPLE ON THEIR RELIGIOUS JOURNEY AND INSPIRING A LOVE OF
09:03:43 PRAYER, STUDY AND ACTIVE TIME IN JUSTICE.
09:03:47 AS AN ASIDE, HE'S ALSO A BIG FAN OF BROADWAY, GAVE JEWS ON
09:03:55 BROADWAY.
09:03:56 WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE RABBI MICHAEL WEISS GIVE THE
09:03:59 INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:04:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND
09:04:08 REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
09:04:10 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:12 I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND ALL OF YOU
09:04:15 FOR INVITING ME TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
09:04:17 I AM A NEW RESIDENT OF TAMPA, THE NEWEST RABBI AT
09:04:20 CONGREGATION, AND ALREADY FEEL LIKE HOME.
09:04:25 IT IS CLEAR TO ALL OF YOU SITTING HERE WHO CARE ABOUT YOUR
09:04:29 HOME.
09:04:31 TO PUT IN THE TIME AND ENERGY TO MAKE IT A WONDERFUL PLACE
09:04:35 TO LIVE AND THAT'S WHY I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE TO OFFER THE
09:04:38 BLESSING.
09:04:41 THE KORAN, THE FIVE BOOKS READ ONE SECTION A WEEK.
09:04:48 THIS PAST WEEK, DESCRIBES OUR PATRIARCH IN THE WILDERNESS
09:04:53 AND BETWEEN HELP AND EARTH.
09:04:58 NOW, OUR TRADITIONAL COMMENTATORS, AS THEY ALWAYS DO, ASK A
09:05:02 QUESTION ABOUT A SLIGHTLY INSIGNIFICANT DETAIL.
09:05:05 WHY DOES IT SAY UP AND DOWN INSTEAD OF DOWN AND THEN UP?
09:05:10 ANGELS IN HEAVEN, YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD NEED TO COME
09:05:12 DOWN FIRST.
09:05:22 THE RABBIS HAD THEIR ANSWERS, BUT RABBI KUSHNER OFFERS UP
09:05:28 THIS BEAUTIFUL EXPLANATION.
09:05:29 HE WRITES, THE ANGELS DID NOT RESIDE IN HEAVEN AT ALL.
09:05:33 THEY LIVED ON EARTH.
09:05:35 THEY WERE ORDINARY HUMAN BEINGS AND SHUTTLED BETWEEN HEAVEN
09:05:46 AND EARTH.
09:05:47 A MESSENGER OR HELPER.
09:05:49 THERE IS NO DIVINE IMPLICATION. IN THIS WAY, WE CAN LEARN
09:05:53 THAT ANY AND ALL OF US WOULD NEED ANGELS WHEN WE ACCEPT THAT
09:05:57 WE HAVE A JOB TO DO HERE ON EARTH, THAT ALL OF US ARE
09:06:00 PARTNERS WITH THE DIVINE IN BUILDING A BETTER, SAFER, AND
09:06:04 KINDER WORLD.
09:06:10 OUR GOD AND THE GOD OF OUR ANCESTORS, MAY YOU FILL THE
09:06:15 HEARTS OF OUR LEADERS FOR LOVE OF THEIR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS,
09:06:19 ENDOW THEM WITH STRENGTH, DECENCY AND WISDOM, HELP THEM SEE
09:06:24 EACH OTHER AND THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE AS FELLOW PARTNERS IN
09:06:27 THE WORK OF REPAIRING OUR WORLD, BEGINNING WITH OUR
09:06:31 COMMUNITY, AND MAY OUR CITY SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE WIDER
09:06:35 WORLD OF A PLACE WHERE PEACE AND JUSTICE DWELL.
09:06:50 BLESSED ARE YOU, SOVEREIGN OF THE UNIVERSE, WHO FILL US WITH
09:06:55 PURPOSE AND INSPIRES US TO FULFILL THE NEEDS OF THE
09:06:58 COMMUNITY.
09:06:59 AND WE SAY TOGETHER AMEN.
09:07:01 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:07:07 >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:07:18 THEN I YIELD --
09:07:22 >> THANK YOU, RABBI.
09:07:23 FROM NOW ON YOU ARE WE WILL BE REFERRED TO AS GUIDO'S
09:07:28 ANGELS.
09:07:28 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:07:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:07:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:07:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:07:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:07:40 COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
09:07:41 THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. SHELBY.
09:07:43 >> I WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:07:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I NEED TO MAKE A ANNOUNCEMENT TO MY
09:07:57 DISTRICT.
09:07:58 A GREAT MAN PASSED ON LAST WEEKEND.
09:08:02 OUR COMMUNITY IS HURTING.
09:08:04 BISHOP MATTHEW.
09:08:08 BISHOP WILLIAMS IS CONSIDERED, SERVES BECAUSE OF HIS WORDS
09:08:19 AND TAMPA WAY HE TOUCHES, LAYS HANDS ON FOLKS TO HEAL, SICK,
09:08:25 GIVE COMFORT WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING.
09:08:27 I HAVE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES AT BISHOP WILLIAMS' CHURCH.
09:08:35 PEOPLE GO AND PUT NEEDS IN THAT BOX AND HE BLESSES THEM.
09:08:40 HE'S A GREAT MAN AND HE'S GOING TO BE MISSED.
09:08:43 SERVICES ARE THIS SUNDAY FROM 12 TO 6:00 AT THE CHURCH.
09:08:46 WE HAVE ALLOWED BISHOPS IN TOWN, FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
09:08:51 BISHOP WILLIAMS SERVES ON THE CHURCH OF GOD.
09:08:56 HE'S A VERY POWERFUL BISHOP.
09:08:58 WHEN I SAY THE WORD BISHOP, I MEAN BISHOP.
09:09:01 HE DOES WHAT GOD TELLS HIM AND ORDAINS HIM TO DO.
09:09:06 AND AGAIN
09:09:12 BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS AT THE END OF THE
09:09:15 MEETING AS IT RELATES TO BISHOP WILLIAMS AND HOPE THE
09:09:19 COUNCIL WILL INDULGE ME WITH SOME MOTIONS THAT I WILL TRY TO
09:09:22 GET PASSED.
09:09:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:09:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:25 MR. SHELBY.
09:09:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
09:09:29 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
09:09:29 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:09:31 WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 3rd, 2020,
09:09:35 FOR THE 9:00 MEETING AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, AND
09:09:38 REMINDER THAT THE REGULAR AGENDA MEETING OF THE TAMPA CITY
09:09:41 COUNCIL IS BEING HELD DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF
09:09:45 EMERGENCY.
09:09:45 IT IS BEING CONDUCTED LIVE WITH AN IN PERSON QUORUM PRESENT
09:09:49 WITH THE OPTION OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION USING WHAT IS
09:09:51 REFERRED TO BY STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS
09:09:54 COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
09:09:57 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY
09:09:59 RULES OF PROCEDURES AS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND MAY BE
09:10:04 AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME.
09:10:05 THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH THE
09:10:07 MEETING TODAY ON CABLE TV, SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 AND FRONTIER
09:10:13 15 AND ON THE INTERNET -- EXCUSE ME -- AT
09:10:17 TAMPAGOV.NET/LIVESTREAM.
09:10:21 SINCE THIS MEETING IS CONDUCTED WITH THE OPTION OF CMT, THE
09:10:24 FOLLOWING ALTERNATIVE METHODS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR
09:10:26 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT, IN PERSON
09:10:30 HERE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, BY E-MAIL TO TAMPA CITY
09:10:38 COUNCIL AT TAMPAGOV.NET, AND TO SPEAK REMOTELY USING CMT
09:10:46 REGISTERING IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, AND THAT INFORMATION
09:10:49 IS AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL -- TO THE PUBLIC AT
09:10:53 TAMPAGOV.NET/CITY-COUNCIL.
09:10:57 THERE IS ALSO A KIOSK HERE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT MAY
09:11:00 BE UTILIZED FOR THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CONCERNED ABOUT
09:11:03 THE COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY RATHER THAN COMING INTO THE
09:11:07 ROOM THEY CAN UTILIZE THE KIOSK AVAILABLE OUTSIDE THIS ROOM.
09:11:10 NOW, ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR LEGISLATIVE MATTERS MUST BE
09:11:14 RECEIVED NO LATER THAN 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN
09:11:17 ORDER TO BE DISTRIBUTED TIMELY TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND ALL
09:11:20 WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS MUST BE
09:11:24 RECEIVED NO LATER THAN 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING TO BE
09:11:27 MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
09:11:29 REGISTRATION INFORM SPEAKING REMOTELY MUST BE REQUESTED AT
09:11:32 LEAST 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
09:11:35 NOW, PUBLIC COMMENTS LIVE AND REMOTE USING CMT WILL BE HEARD
09:11:39 AT THE START OF THE MEETING AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY
09:11:43 COUNCIL.
09:11:44 COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO A PUBLIC HEARING, SOMETHING THAT IS SET
09:11:49 FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, WILL BE HEARD WHEN IT APPEARS ON THE
09:11:52 AGENDA.
09:11:54 NOW, COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, AS A RESULT OF COUNCIL'S
09:11:58 DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION, THIS NOTICE THAT HAS BEEN POSTED
09:12:03 FOR THIS WEEK'S PUBLIC MEETING DID NOT HAVE THE OPTION
09:12:07 PREVIOUSLY DONE FOR PRERECORDED VOICE MAIL COMMENTS.
09:12:13 AND COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO BRING TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION
09:12:16 A COUPLE OF POINTS TO REMEMBER, THAT PRIOR TO THE COVID-19
09:12:22 PANDEMIC AND THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, THERE WAS NEVER AN
09:12:26 OPTION FOR PRERECORDED PUBLIC COMMENTS.
09:12:29 AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE NEVER WAS AN OPTION FOR REMOTE
09:12:32 PARTICIPATION FOR CMT.
09:12:34 AND THOSE WERE PUT INTO PLACE IN ORDER TO GET THIS
09:12:39 GOVERNMENT BACK UP AND RUNNING AND TO GET COUNCIL BACK UP
09:12:41 AND MEETING AGAIN.
09:12:44 AS YOU KNOW THE MEETINGS WERE CANCELED IN MARCH, SO DID NOT
09:12:47 BEGIN MEETING AGAIN IN PERSON FOR AT LEAST A BIT UNTIL IT
09:12:51 HAD TO BE CANCELED AGAIN UNTIL JUNE.
09:12:53 SO A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THAT SINCE WE HAVE BEEN BACK IN
09:12:59 PERSON, THE PUBLIC STILL HAS THE OPTION TO COME TO COUNCIL
09:13:03 OR TO PARTICIPATE LIVE REMOTELY.
09:13:07 NOW, WITH REGARD TO THE VOICE MAILS, ONCE WE HAVE COME BACK
09:13:10 INTO IN-PERSON MEETINGS, IT'S BECOME OBVIOUS THAT THE
09:13:20 RECORDED VOICE MAIL COMMENTS MAKE THE MEETING RATHER
09:13:24 UNWORKABLE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
09:13:26 NUMBER ONE IS, IT IS A TREMENDOUS DEMAND ON THE RESOURCES
09:13:30 AND PERSONNEL OF THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO BOTH GET CMT
09:13:35 READY FOR RECORDED VOICE MAILS READY AND DISTRIBUTED, AND
09:13:39 ALSO TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT A LIVE MEETING.
09:13:42 WITH REGARD TO THE PURPOSE OF A VOICE MAIL COMMENT
09:13:45 INITIALLY, WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD BE PLAYED LIVE AT THE
09:13:49 MEETING SO THAT COUNCIL CAN -- EXCUSE ME, PLAYED AT THE
09:13:52 MEETING WHILE COUNCIL IS MEETING, AND THE REASON TO DO THAT
09:13:55 WAS TO HAVE COMMENTS AVAILABLE BEFORE COUNCIL VOTES.
09:14:01 WITH PRERECORDED MEETINGS NOW -- EXCUSE ME, PRERECORDED
09:14:05 COMMENTS NOW, WITH LIVE IN-PERSON MEETINGS, IT IS VERY
09:14:09 DIFFICULT FOR THE CLERK TO COMPILE THOSE, DISTRIBUTE THEM 24
09:14:14 HOURS IN ADVANCE, GET THEM TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN MAKE
09:14:17 THE DEMAND UPON YOU TO BE ABLE TO ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT LISTEN
09:14:20 TO THOSE PRERECORDED COMMENTS BEFORE THE MEETING WHEN YOU
09:14:23 HAVE TO VOTE, BECAUSE AFTER THE MEETING, WHEN THEY ARE
09:14:28 DISTRIBUTED, IT'S TOO LATE FOR IT TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON YOUR
09:14:31 VOTE.
09:14:32 SO THAT'S WHY IT REALLY IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
09:14:35 EFFICIENCY, BOTH FROM YOUR TIME CONSTRAINTS AND ALSO FROM
09:14:39 THE RESOURCES OF THE CLERK, TO STILL ALLOW FOR REMOTE
09:14:45 PARTICIPATION BUT NOT HAVE PRERECORDED COMMENTS, BECAUSE NOW
09:14:51 THAT WE ARE MEETING AGAIN IN PERSON IT MAKES IT UNWIELDILY
09:14:53 AND IN MY OPINION RATHER UNWORKABLE.
09:14:56 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:14:57 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:14:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:14:59 WE GO TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM TO THE
09:15:02 AGENDA.
09:15:03 WE HAVE -- MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:15:08 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:15:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:15:11 OPPOSED?
09:15:12 ALL RIGHT.
09:15:12 WE GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
09:15:14 ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:15:15 THERE'S A REQUEST TO CONTINUE IT TO FEBRUARY 4th, 2021.
09:15:18 CAN I HAVE A MOTION?
09:15:20 MOTION TO CONTINUE.
09:15:21 WHO MADE THE MOTION?
09:15:24 COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH THE MOTION.
09:15:25 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:15:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:15:28 ANY OPPOSED?
09:15:29 ALL RIGHT.
09:15:29 ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:15:30 THE VIRTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE HONORABLE CLERK OF COURTS,
09:15:34 PAT FRANK, AND THAT WAS INITIATED BY COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
09:15:38 >>LUIS VIERA: SHOULD I DO IT FROM UP HERE, SIR?
09:15:43 IT'S VIRTUAL.
09:15:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS LONG AS WE ARE ALL ON CAMERA.
09:15:49 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL DO IT FROM UP HERE IF I MAY.
09:15:51 WE HAVE HERE OUR WONDERFUL CLERK OF COURT PAT FRANK WHO IS
09:15:54 WITH US HERE VIRTUALLY.
09:15:56 IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.
09:15:57 IT'S MY PLEASURE.
09:15:59 I AM NOT USED TO DOING THESE REMOTELY.
09:16:01 BUT IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO OUR WONDERFUL CLERK OF
09:16:04 COURT PAT FRANK, HER REMARKABLE HISTORY, A TAMPA CITY
09:16:09 COUNCIL COMMENDATION FOR HER YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS OF
09:16:13 SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND TAMPA
09:16:17 AREA.
09:16:17 YOU KNOW, PAT FRANK IS A REAL TRAILBLAZER.
09:16:21 OFTEN THE TERM TRAILBLAZER IS LIBERALLY USED HERE.
09:16:25 IT IS CONSERVATIVELY USED WHEN IT COMES TO PAT FRANK.
09:16:29 HER WORK THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME
09:16:32 I HEARD ABOUT PAT FRANK.
09:16:33 IT WAS 1996.
09:16:35 I WAS ABOUT 18 YEARS OLD AND I ASKED SOME OF MY PARENTS'
09:16:39 FRIENDS WHO THEY WERE VOTING FOR, FOR CONGRESS THAT YEAR, NO
09:16:43 PRIMARY, AND THEY SAID ONE PERSON, PAT FRANK.
09:16:46 SHE'S A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT.
09:16:48 AND THAT'S WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT PAT FRANK.
09:16:50 SHE WAS THE FIRST WOMAN ADMITTED TO GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY
09:16:53 SCHOOL OF LAW.
09:16:54 IF YOU TELL ME YOU WERE ADMITTED TO GEORGETOWN IN 2020, I'M
09:16:58 PRETTY IMPRESSED.
09:16:59 IF YOU TELL ME THAT YOU ARE THE FIRST WOMAN EVER ADMITTED TO
09:17:02 GEORGETOWN SCHOOL OF LAW, YOU HAVE BLOWN ME AWAY.
09:17:05 THAT'S PRETTY DARN IMPRESSIVE.
09:17:06 ONE OF THE FIRST WOMEN ADMITTED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA
09:17:09 EVER, AGAIN, PRETTY HARD SCHOOL TO GET INTO TODAY.
09:17:12 WHENEVER FRIENDS TELL ME MY SEASON OR DAUGHTER GOT INTO UF,
09:17:16 I SAY, MAN, THAT'S HARD.
09:17:18 ONE OF THE FIRST WOMEN EVER ADMITTED.
09:17:20 WHAT A TRAILBLAZER.
09:17:21 WHILE AT GEORGETOWN SCHOOL OF LAW STUDYING TO BE AN ATTORNEY
09:17:25 PAT WOULD MEET HER HUSBAND THE LATE GEORGE FRANK IN THE
09:17:30 SECOND DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS, AND BEFORE GOING TO LAW
09:17:33 SCHOOL HE WOULD SERVE OUR COUNTRY AS AN INFANTRY.
09:17:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN EUROPE DURING WORLD WAR II.
09:17:42 I WILL GO THROUGH HER STELLAR RECORD.
09:17:44 AFTER A COUPLE OF TRIES, SHE WOULD SUCCEED IN 1972, GETTING
09:17:48 ONTO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD WHERE SHE WOULD BE
09:17:51 A VERY STRONG ADVOCATE FOR INTEGRATION AND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.
09:17:54 AND THIS IS 1972, THE LUSTER MUCH 1964 AND 1965 HAD LONG
09:17:59 PAST WITH MANY AMERICANS BUT PAT FRANK WAS STILL THERE
09:18:03 BELIEVING IN THE CAUSE OF EQUALITY AND IN THE CAUSE OF
09:18:05 LINCOLN AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY 1972.
09:18:08 SHE WOULD SERVE IN THE FLORIDA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM
09:18:11 1976 TO 1978, THEREAFTER AS THE STATE SENATOR FROM 1979, ONE
09:18:16 YEAR AFTER I WAS BORN, TO 1988, THEREAFTER AS A COUNTY
09:18:20 COMMISSIONER, AND IN 2004 SHE WOULD BEGIN SERVING AS THE
09:18:25 CLERK OF COURT.
09:18:26 I'M AN ATTORNEY, WAS ADMITTED TO THE BAR IN 2003 AND PRETTY
09:18:30 MUCH SINCE I HAVE BEEN A LAWYER, I HAVE ALWAYS WORKED WITH
09:18:32 THE OFFICE OF PAT FRANK AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE A GREAT
09:18:34 JOB.
09:18:35 TAKE IT FROM ME AS AN ATTORNEY WHO LIBERALLY USES THEIR
09:18:38 SERVICES.
09:18:38 HER LEGISLATIVE VICTORIES ARE TOO MANY TO NAME BUT JUST A
09:18:41 FEW.
09:18:42 MANDATORY KINDERGARTEN IN PUBLIC EDUCATION.
09:18:44 AGAIN, THINGS THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED TODAY.
09:18:48 EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT PUSHING FOR THAT.
09:18:50 THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN AND FUNDING
09:18:53 FOR HEALTH EXAMINATION FOR VICTIMS OF RAPE, SEXUAL BATTERY,
09:18:57 SEXUAL ABUSE.
09:19:00 SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS POINT TO WHEN IT COMES TO JUST PAT
09:19:03 FRANK'S AMAZING RECORD IS THE ISSUE OF ACTION.
09:19:07 IN MAY OF 1977, THE FLORIDA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED
09:19:11 A BAN ON GAY ADOPTION WHICH PASSED 98 TO 15, TO VOTE AGAINST
09:19:16 THAT, YOU HAD TO BE A MAN OR WOMAN BEFORE YOUR TIME, AND 15
09:19:20 STATE REPRESENTATIVES WERE.
09:19:21 ONE OF THEM WAS PAT FRANK.
09:19:24 I ALWAYS JOKE WITH PEOPLE THAT SHE WAS VOTING AGAINST GAY
09:19:27 ADOPTION BANS BEFORE I WAS BORN.
09:19:29 SOMETHING THAT WOULD HORRIFY, I THINK, MOST PEOPLE TODAY.
09:19:32 SHE TRIED TO CALL THE LEGISLATORS OUT, PUTTING UP AMENDMENTS
09:19:35 TO BAN ADOPTIONS FOR THOSE WHO ENGAGE IN ADULTRY AND
09:19:39 FORNICATION AND TO EXPOSE THE REMARKABLE HYPOCRISY OF MANY
09:19:44 LEGISLATORS.
09:19:45 I HAD THE PLEASURE OF HEARING MS. FRANK SPEAK RECENTLY ABOUT
09:19:48 A YEAR AGO AT A CITY OF TAMPA EVENT, AND I WAS JUST STUNNED
09:19:53 BY HER CANDOR, BY HER DEMEANOR.
09:19:55 I TOLD HER AFTERWARDS THAT SHE IS A HARRY TRUMAN.
09:19:59 SHE REALLY TELLS IT LIKE IT IS.
09:20:01 AND SHE SPEAKS TRUTH TO POWER.
09:20:03 SHE SERVED WITH TAMPA GIANTS, AND WITH MANY GIANTS WE MARVEL
09:20:08 AT TODAY, PEOPLE LIKE SAM GIBBONS, SENATOR JAMES HARGRETT,
09:20:10 PHYLLIS BUSANSKY, BETTY CASTOR, HELEN GORDON DAVIS, AND SO
09:20:14 MANY OTHERS.
09:20:15 HER NAME IS ONE OF THOSE NAMES THAT WE LOOK TO IN THE
09:20:18 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND TAMPA AREA AS A GIANT IN PUBLIC
09:20:21 SERVICE, HONORED BY REPUBLICANS, BY DEMOCRATS AND BY
09:20:26 INDEPENDENTS IS THE GOOD NAME OF PAT FRANK.
09:20:29 SHE STANDS AS A TRAILBLAZER.
09:20:31 THAT IS WHY CITY COUNCIL, I KNOW EVERYBODY JOINS 100% IN
09:20:35 HONORING THE LEGACY OF THIS GOOD WOMAN.
09:20:38 SO I WILL TALK -- STOP TALKING, I SHOULD SAY, IF YOU WOULD
09:20:43 LIKE TO, OR DO WE DO FIRST COUNCILMEN?
09:20:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
09:20:52 ANYBODY?
09:20:52 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:20:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, YOU ALWAYS THANK A PERSON FOR WHAT
09:20:58 THEY HAVE DONE, AND MS. FRANK FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE
09:21:03 THROUGHOUT HER LIFETIME.
09:21:04 AND I WANT TO SAY TO HER, JOB WELL DONE.
09:21:07 ENJOY YOUR VACATION.
09:21:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:21:15 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:21:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
09:21:20 PAT, MS. FRANK, YOU ARE A LEGEND.
09:21:22 YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION TO ALL OF US.
09:21:26 I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST MET.
09:21:29 FEELS LIKE QUITE A WHILE AGO.
09:21:32 PERHAPS COUNTY COMMISSION.
09:21:33 YOU HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THIS COUNTY IN EVERY POSSIBLE
09:21:36 POSITION CRITICALLY, LEGISLATIVE, ADMINISTRATIVELY, AND LIKE
09:21:43 I SAY, YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION.
09:21:45 WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE HARD WORK, AND WE ARE NOT LETTING
09:21:48 YOU OFF THE HOOK.
09:21:49 WE EXPECT TO HEAR YOUR ADVICE AND YOUR WISDOM AS THE YEARS
09:21:53 GO ON.
09:21:54 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, PAT.
09:21:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:56 >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
09:21:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE YEARS THAT
09:22:03 YOU HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO HELP TAMPA BAY, THE STATE OF
09:22:06 FLORIDA AND PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
09:22:09 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:22:11 YOU HAVE BEEN A ROLE MODEL NOT ONLY FOR WOMEN BUT FOR EVERY
09:22:14 YOUNG PERSON THAT IS GOING TO COME AFTER YOU.
09:22:17 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE, MS.
09:22:22 FRANK.
09:22:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN COUNCILMAN
09:22:25 CARLSON.
09:22:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:22:28 I WANT TO SAY PAT, THANK YOU FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
09:22:31 HOW POPULAR IS PAT FRANK?
09:22:33 WHEN I WAS TRAINING RACEHORSES IN CINCINNATI, I CALLED
09:22:37 DURING ELECTION TIME, SKIPPY GARCIA, SAYING DON'T FORGET,
09:22:42 THERE'S A VOTE GOING ON, VOTE FOR PAT FRANK.
09:22:46 I WAS IN MICHIGAN.
09:22:47 WHO DO I GET A CALL FROM?
09:22:48 SKIPPY GARCIA.
09:22:50 AND AGAIN, DON'T FORGET PAT FRANK.
09:22:52 AND I TELL YOU WHAT.
09:22:53 IT'S ABOUT HER DIGNITY, HER HONESTY, HER
09:22:57 STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS, AND YES, SHE'S BEEN A TRAILBLAZER.
09:23:00 YES, SHE SAID THE STANDARDS FOR MANY THINGS.
09:23:02 BUT ABOVE ALL SHE'S ONE HELL OF A GOOD HUMAN BEING.
09:23:06 THANKS VERY MUCH, PAT, FOR WHO YOU ARE.
09:23:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
09:23:12 ALL THE LEADERSHIP YOU HAVE SHOWN OVER THE YEARS AND THE
09:23:14 PRECEDENCE YOU HAVE SET, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE EXAMPLE
09:23:17 YOU HAVE GIVEN FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT.
09:23:19 I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE BIG EXAMPLES THAT EVERYBODY
09:23:23 CAN LOOK UP TO.
09:23:25 AND THANKS ALSO FOR CARRYING THESE VALUES ONTO THE NEXT
09:23:32 GENERATION, AND WE ALL STILL MISS STACY.
09:23:39 I AM GOING TO CATCH UP WITH COURT ANY SOON.
09:23:41 JUST LOVE YOUR FAMILY.
09:23:42 THANKS SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
09:23:43 >> PAT FRANK: THANK YOU, BILL.
09:23:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH INFORM YOUR
09:23:47 DECADES OF SERVICE AND INSPIRATION, SO MANY IN THIS
09:23:52 COMMUNITY.
09:23:52 YOU ARE A TRAILBLAZER.
09:23:54 COUNCILMAN VIERA REALLY SAID IT ALL.
09:23:56 AN INCREDIBLE BACKGROUND, INCREDIBLE LIFE YOU HAVE LED, AND
09:23:59 I HOPE MANY MORE YEARS.
09:24:01 BUT YOU ARE A LEGEND AND WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU VERY
09:24:04 MUCH.
09:24:05 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:24:05 >> PAT FRANK: I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU AND COUNCILMAN
09:24:12 VIERA FOR INSPIRING THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GIVE ME
09:24:16 THIS HONOR.
09:24:18 I AM SO BLESSED.
09:24:20 AND I THANK THE PEOPLE FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
09:24:22 SERVE.
09:24:23 IT'S BEEN A JOY THROUGHOUT MY LIFE.
09:24:27 AND CHARLEY, I WILL MISS THE RIDES THAT WE TAKE, AND THE
09:24:32 STORIES THAT YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE GOOD OLD DAYS.
09:24:35 AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN STILL DO THAT EVEN AFTER I AM OUT OF
09:24:39 OFFICE.
09:24:41 BUT ALL OF YOU, YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU
09:24:44 ARE THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S CLOSEST.
09:24:47 THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE HEARTBEAT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:24:52 AND I AM HONORED BY THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE VERY
09:24:57 MUCH, BECAUSE YOU DO WONDERFUL WORK.
09:25:01 AND YOU ARE THE ONES WHO TAKE CARE OF THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS
09:25:05 OF PEOPLE.
09:25:06 AND WHAT CAN BE MORE HONORABLE THAN THAT?
09:25:09 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
09:25:10 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:25:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:25:19 ALL RIGHT.
09:25:19 NEXT WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:25:21 I WAS GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMEMBER CITRO AS
09:25:25 CHAIR PRO TEM.
09:25:26 HE STEPPED OUT.
09:25:27 I AM GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMEMBER GUDES BECAUSE
09:25:31 YOU ARE THE CRA CHAIR, I THINK NEXT IN LINE HERE.
09:25:34 I AM GOING TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION.
09:25:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
09:25:38 >> THE 2020 ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE, PROCUREMENT AWARD
09:26:09 FROM THE NATIONAL PURCHASING INSTITUTE, THE MPI RECOGNIZES
09:26:13 THE ORGANIZATION THAT EMBRACES PROFESSIONALISM, LEADERSHIP,
09:26:17 AND PROCUREMENT.
09:26:19 THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONE OF ONLY 32 AGENCIES IN FLORIDA AND
09:26:22 ONE OF ONLY 69 CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.
09:26:29 IT IS WITH GREAT HONES THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENT
09:26:31 THIS COMMENDATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA PURCHASING DEPARTMENT
09:26:33 ON THIS THIRD DAY OF DECEMBER 2020, BUSINESS, RECOGNITION,
09:26:40 EXCELLENCE, FOR THE 14th YEAR IN A ROW FOR THE CITY OF
09:26:43 TAMPA AND CITIZENS, GRATEFUL FOR YOUR DILIGENCE.
09:26:48 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:26:48 >> WE WORK VERY HARD FOR THIS CITY.
09:27:04 WE ARE HONORED AND PLEASED TO SERVE THIS ADMINISTRATION.
09:27:09 WE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:27:11 WE ARE HONORED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY
09:27:13 OF TAMPA.
09:27:15 AND ALSO INWARD FACING AND OUTWARD FACING DEPARTMENT.
09:27:18 SO THIS PARTICULAR COMMENDATION REALLY REPS THE MEN AND
09:27:22 WOMEN WHO STAND BEHIND US.
09:27:26 THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS, MANY OF THEM ARE CERTIFIED, AND
09:27:30 OTHERS ARE WORKING ON THEIR CERTIFICATION.
09:27:32 WE KEEP UP WITH THIS PRACTICES AND INDUSTRY STANDARD BECAUSE
09:27:36 WE WANT TO DO THE VERY BEST JOB POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN FOR THE
09:27:39 CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WE THANK YOU THAT YOU
09:27:43 HAVE TRUSTED US WITH THAT.
09:27:44 WE PURCHASED IN THE MAGNITUDE OF 400 TO $420 MILLION WORTH
09:27:50 OF GOODS AND SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA EACH AND HE HAVE
09:27:53 YEAR.
09:27:54 SO WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, AND WE DO NOT
09:27:57 TAKE IT LIGHTLY.
09:27:59 SO I WANT TO ASK THEM TO COME UP BRIEFLY AND INTRODUCE
09:28:08 THEMSELVES AND A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT THEY MANAGE.
09:28:10 KEVIN, OUR GOODS AND SERVICES MANAGER, AND DEANNA, OUR
09:28:17 PURCHASE SERVICES AND SERVICE MANAGER.
09:28:19 KEVIN.
09:28:19 >> KEVIN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMAN AND EVERYBODY AT HOME
09:28:26 WATCHING ON TV OR ON COMPUTER.
09:28:27 I WANT TO ECHO WHAT GREG SAID.
09:28:30 WE WORK HARD.
09:28:32 COVID THREW A LITTLE CURVE BALL TO US THIS YEAR.
09:28:35 WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE IT AND WORKING AS WE GO.
09:28:37 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE FOLKS AT THE TEAM, CAN'T DO IT ALL
09:28:41 MYSELF, AND I HAVE GOT SOME HERE I WANT TO INTRODUCE.
09:28:45 I ALSO HAVE SOME REMOTELY.
09:28:46 THE ONES THAT ARE HERE I WANT TO INTRODUCE.
09:28:53 ROSARIO.
09:28:55 JOE BENJAMIN.
09:28:57 SHE'S OUR NEWEST BUYER.
09:28:59 ANGEL WELCH.
09:29:01 ALITA.
09:29:04 KATRINA HOUSE OVERSEES OUR JOB CONTRACTING PROGRAM AND
09:29:08 RENEWALS AT HOME.
09:29:11 OR VACATION.
09:29:12 THEY ARE WORKING REMOTELY SINCE MARCH.
09:29:14 BLAKE LEONARD.
09:29:15 MICHELLE.
09:29:16 KAREN JOHNSON WHO WORKS FOR US AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT
09:29:19 PLANT.
09:29:20 BOBBY BAKER AT THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT FOR SOLID WASTE.
09:29:23 AND ALSO A SUPPORT PERSON FOR DOING ALL HELPS TO PUT THOSE
09:29:31 TOGETHER FOR YOUR REVIEW.
09:29:34 WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE.
09:29:35 I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:29:38 THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT HELP FOR US.
09:29:41 MARCIE HAMILTON DOES A GREAT JOB.
09:29:46 RISK MANAGEMENT.
09:29:47 CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE WHOLE TEAM.
09:29:50 AS GREG MENTIONED WE DO 440, APPROXIMATELY, POs OF
09:29:54 EXPENDITURES EVERY YEAR.
09:29:55 IT ALL FLOWS THROUGH US.
09:29:57 WE MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE
09:29:59 CITY.
09:29:59 WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE TAXPAYERS, DOING THE
09:30:03 BEST FOR EVERYBODY.
09:30:05 ALSO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROMOTE THE EPO PROGRAMS.
09:30:10 WE MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE ARE DOING THE
09:30:13 BEST WE CAN TO PROMOTE THOSE PROGRAMS.
09:30:15 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
09:30:20 WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING YOU AS WE GO FORWARD.
09:30:23 THANK YOU.
09:30:24 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:30:26 >> DEANNA MARSHALL, PURCHASING SYSTEMS MANAGER.
09:30:33 HERE WITH ME I HAVE OUR INVENTORY SUPERVISOR.
09:30:36 INVENTORY HAS BEEN CRUCIAL IN KEEPING UP WITH ALL OF THE
09:30:39 PROTECTIVE SUPPLIES AND THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED ACROSS THE
09:30:42 CITY AND KEEPS ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES SAFE.
09:30:45 WE HAVE ALSO BEEN HELPING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF MASKS TO
09:30:48 THE PUBLIC.
09:30:49 ALSO CHERYL, OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT DOING SYSTEMS
09:30:58 TRAINING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:31:00 NOT WITH US TODAY IS PENNY HAMMOCK WHO IS THE FIELD
09:31:04 ADMINISTRATOR, AND SHE ALSO KEEPS TRACK OF ALL THE CITY'S
09:31:07 INSURANCE FOR ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS ACROSS THE CITY, AS WELL
09:31:10 AS OUR INVENTORY STAFF.
09:31:16 MICHAEL.
09:31:17 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:18 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:31:22 >>GREG SPEARMAN: ONE OTHER QUICK NOTE.
09:31:24 ALSO NOT WITH US IS MICHELLE GRIZZARD, EXECUTIVE AIDE, AND
09:31:32 SHE'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF KEEPING US ON TASK WITH OUR
09:31:36 BUDGET AND MEETINGS AND LOTS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN
09:31:37 PERSON.
09:31:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GREG AND YOUR TEAM, I JUST WANT TO ECHO
09:31:44 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S GOOD WORDS ABOUT ALL THE GREAT WORK
09:31:48 YOU GUYS DO.
09:31:50 AS I MENTIONED OVER THE YEARS MY FIRST JOB OUT OF COLLEGE
09:31:53 WAS BEING A GOVERNMENT PURCHASING AGENT UP IN TALLAHASSEE.
09:31:56 AND FOR BETTER OR WORSE, I THINK THOSE LESSONS I LEARNED
09:32:01 STUCK.
09:32:01 AND YOU GUYS ARE STUCK WITH ME.
09:32:03 BUT JUST KNOW THAT I BELIEVE OVER MANY, MANY YEARS THAT GREG
09:32:09 AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER AND I HAVE KNOWN SOME OF YOU
09:32:11 THAT I HAVE ADMIRED THE WORK YOU GUYS DO.
09:32:14 I KNOW YOU WORK HARD.
09:32:15 SOMETIMES I POKE AND JAB, BUT IT'S JUST TO MAKE ALL OF US
09:32:19 BETTER AND TO MAKE US A BETTER CITY, AND A CITY THAT GETS
09:32:22 AWARDS AND IS ADMIRED ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHICH KNOW YOU
09:32:26 ARE.
09:32:26 SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND KNOW THAT MY
09:32:29 DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN.
09:32:32 CALL ME IF YOU NEED ME.
09:32:33 GREG AND I TALK ALL THE TIME.
09:32:35 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:32:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:32:37 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT THEY HAVE SAID.
09:32:45 YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND FRIENDS WITH AND I KNOW A NUMBER OF
09:32:48 YOU GUYS, AND WE ARE JUST HERE ON COUNCIL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
09:32:51 THE WORK THAT ALL OF OUR STAFF AND LEADERSHIP DO AND VERY
09:32:54 APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE HARD WORK YOU ALL DO, MAKE THE CITY
09:32:57 RUN ON TIME IN ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WE
09:33:01 ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT.
09:33:02 IF YOU EVER DON'T FEEL APPRECIATED, KNOCK ON OUR DOORS AND
09:33:05 LET US KNOW, PLEASE.
09:33:06 I MEAN.
09:33:06 THAT THANK YOU.
09:33:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:33:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:33:13 I LIKE THE WORDS THAT WERE SPOKEN HERE.
09:33:16 TEAMMATES.
09:33:16 TEAMWORK.
09:33:18 EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY IS A TEAM PLAYER.
09:33:21 THANK YOU FOR HELPING US FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:33:25 I THINK THE MOST WONDERFUL STATEMENT WAS MADE HERE TODAY,
09:33:28 SAVING THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.
09:33:30 THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
09:33:32 THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
09:33:33 CONGRATULATIONS ON THE AWARD.
09:33:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
09:33:41 ANYTIME A BALL CLUB OR TEAM GETS AN AWARD, THEY HAVE TO HAVE
09:33:44 A LEADER AT THE HELM.
09:33:45 OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB TO RECEIVE THESE A WORDS.
09:33:51 COUNCIL IS JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER.
09:33:55 SO OBVIOUSLY YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND
09:34:01 WE WILL HELP AS BEST WE CAN.
09:34:03 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM.
09:34:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I FORGOT ONE THING, GREG.
09:34:08 WHEN I FIRST MET WAS THAT 2003 OR FOUR?
09:34:13 2003.
09:34:14 I REMEMBER WE BOTH HAD MORE HAIR.
09:34:17 OKAY.
09:34:17 BUT YOU MANAGED TO LOSE WEIGHT OVER THE YEARS AND I HAVEN'T.
09:34:21 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:34:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:34:24 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
09:34:25 ENJOY YOUR DAY.
09:34:26 THANK YOU.
09:34:26 WE GO NOW TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:34:29 WE HAVE A FEW MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE.
09:34:31 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS
09:34:34 WALL?
09:34:36 I DO NOT THINK WE DO.
09:34:38 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THOSE IN THE ROOM AND THEN WE
09:34:40 WILL GO TO THE REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS THAT HAVE
09:34:44 CALLED IN.
09:34:46 PLEASE USE ALTERNATING ELECTRIC TURNS.
09:34:49 WE'LL SANITIZE ONE AND THEN GO TO THE OTHER.
09:34:54 AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
09:34:55 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:35:01 PULL IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
09:35:02 THERE WE GO.
09:35:04 PERFECT.
09:35:04 WE CAN SEE IT ALL.
09:35:05 THANK YOU.
09:35:06 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE
09:35:07 THE THREE MINUTES.
09:35:08 >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33616.
09:35:20 I AM A LICENSED REALTOR, PROPERTY MANAGER, AND ADVOCATE FOR
09:35:26 SOUTH OF GANDY.
09:35:27 I AM HERE THIS MORNING, ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW SPEECH FOR
09:35:32 NUMBER 67 ON THE AGENDA.
09:35:34 A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, ON NOVEMBER THE 14th, 2019,
09:35:41 WAS THE FIRST TIME I CAME TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT SOG.
09:35:45 IN THAT MEETING I TOLD YOU THAT THERE WERE 2800
09:35:50 APPROXIMATELY APARTMENTS THAT HAD BEEN BUILT SINCE THE
09:35:52 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2016.
09:35:56 THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT
09:35:59 COMPLETED FOR OCCUPANCY, WHICH LEAVES 1200.
09:36:04 SINCE THEN, NEARLY 800 MORE APARTMENTS WEST OF DALE MABRY
09:36:10 AND SOUTH OF GANDY HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
09:36:15 SO THAT'S GOING TO BOOST OUR POPULATION AGAIN OVER THE NEXT
09:36:18 TWO TO THREE YEARS.
09:36:21 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY --
09:36:26 >>> EXCUSE ME, CAN WE ASK THE FOLKS IN THE LOBBY TO KEEP IT
09:36:30 DOWN A LITTLE BIT?
09:36:31 >> IN THE PLANNING WORKSHOP ON OCTOBER 22ND CITY STAFF
09:36:39 RECOMMENDED WE SUSPEND PLAN AMENDMENTS AND REZONING FOR THE
09:36:41 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNTIL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND
09:36:44 DEVELOPMENT CODE HAVE BEEN UPDATED FOR THE COASTAL HIGH
09:36:47 HAZARD AREA.
09:36:48 ABOUT HALF OF THIS AREA IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
09:36:53 THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH I HAVE ON THE OVERHEAD, IN DRAFT FORM,
09:37:00 AND IT'S -- SORRY -- NOT ONLY THE VOTERS OF SOG BUT THE
09:37:05 FOLKS WHO CREATED THIS DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN
09:37:08 PUBLISHED COMPLETELY YET SUGGEST THAT THE COMP PLAN IS VAGUE
09:37:11 AND SHOULD BE REEVALUATED.
09:37:13 IT SEEMS THAT IS THE USE OF DWELLING UNITS PER GROSS ACRE IN
09:37:18 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA IS A CONCERN PER THIS DOCUMENT
09:37:21 WHICH WAS CREATED BY SOMEBODY AT THE CITY, QUASI-PLANNING
09:37:28 STUFF I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT ANYWAY, THEY RECOMMEND
09:37:30 THROUGHOUT SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES THAT THE DWELLINGS PER
09:37:33 ACRE UNIT SHOULD BE RIGHT AROUND 6 FROM WHAT I AM LOOKING
09:37:38 AT, BUT RM 35, WHICH IS WHAT ALL THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES
09:37:44 ARE, IS .6.
09:37:45 I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE JUST MOVIE THAT DECIMAL
09:37:48 OVER AND MAKE IT THAT.
09:37:49 IN THE SUMMER OF 2019, I REQUESTED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
09:37:55 VACATE 60 SQUARE FEET OF CITY PROPERTY BEHIND ONE OF MY
09:38:02 HOUSES.
09:38:03 I HAD TO NOTIFY 250 FEET AROUND MY PROPERTY.
09:38:07 I DID SO.
09:38:07 I DIDN'T MIND DOING SO.
09:38:09 I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THE SAME EXPECTATION OF 250
09:38:14 FEET IS GIVEN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BUILDING 250, 500 UNITS.
09:38:22 SO THAT 250 TO 600 UNITS, WHEN SOMEBODY IS BUILDING THAT, IT
09:38:27 DOESN'T JUST AFFECT THE PEOPLE WHO CAN SEE IT FROM THEIR
09:38:30 BACKYARD.
09:38:31 IT AFFECTS EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:38:33 FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS BEEN
09:38:44 PASSED.
09:38:45 I AM NOT GOING TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR
09:38:48 YOU TO NOTICE THAT THE 250 FEET CIRCLE, IT INCLUDES TWO
09:38:53 UNITS IN A COMMUNITY THAT DIRECTLY LEADS DIRECTLY ACROSS
09:38:59 FROM THAT COMMUNITY.
09:39:01 THERE ARE 44 HOME OWNERS THAT COMMUNITY WHO WERE NOT
09:39:05 NOTIFIED THAT THOSE 200 PLUS UNITS WERE BEING BUILT.
09:39:09 THAT IMPACTS THOSE 44 FAMILIES EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN THEY
09:39:14 GET UP TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, TO GO TO WORK, OR
09:39:16 WHATNOT.
09:39:18 BY LEAVING OUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT LITTLE PINK CIRCLE,
09:39:21 YOU ARE IGNORING THOSE FOLKS, AND THEIR STANDING IN OUR
09:39:27 COMMUNITY.
09:39:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:39:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD I RESPOND REAL QUICK?
09:39:32 I KNOW IT'S UNUSUAL TO ASK.
09:39:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THAT'S YOUR WISH, SIR.
09:39:35 GO AHEAD.
09:39:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STEPHANIE, WE DON'T USUALLY RESPOND TO
09:39:40 COMMENTS, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
09:39:45 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THING CALLED OR USED TO BE DEVELOPMENT
09:39:50 OF REGIONAL IMPACT WHERE THERE WAS A LOT MORE SCRUTINY AND A
09:39:53 LOT MORE NOTICE FOR LARGER PROJECTS.
09:39:55 BUT I THINK AT A MINIMUM, ADDITIONAL NOTICE FOR LARGER
09:39:58 PROJECTS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT.
09:40:00 AND I PROMISE YOU WE'LL BRING IT UP TO STAFF AND TALK ABOUT
09:40:03 IT.
09:40:04 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:40:05 1320 IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
09:40:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:40:09 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:40:11 STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:40:12 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:40:12 >> MY NAME IS MARISSA BALDWIN.
09:40:19 DID YOU SAY MY ADDRESS?
09:40:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, JUST YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:40:23 >> THE MOST IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEM THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS
09:40:26 TODAY IS NUMBER 11.
09:40:29 THE CELLCO ANTENNA FACILITIES.
09:40:32 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GOT THE E-MAIL I SENT YESTERDAY
09:40:34 MORNING.
09:40:35 IT WAS BEFORE NINE SO I HOPE IT WAS DISTRIBUTED WITH ALL THE
09:40:38 ATTACHMENTS, PARAGRAPH 2 OF THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THE
09:40:44 UPGRADE OF TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATED THEREWITH, UPGRADED
09:40:49 TECHNOLOGY.
09:40:50 IN LIGHT OF THE CURRENT COVID CRISIS, IT SHOULD BE AT THE
09:40:54 FOREFRONT OF EVERY AGENDA.
09:40:56 HOWEVER, 5 G IS HARMFUL TO OUR HEALTH AND EVEN CAUSES
09:41:02 SYMPTOMS ASSOCIATED WITH COVID.
09:41:03 THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS ALREADY TAKEN PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES
09:41:07 TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AGAINST ILLNESS.
09:41:11 HOWEVER, TECHNOLOGY WILL RENDER THAT MOOT AND CAUSE INJURY.
09:41:18 I'M NOT A LAWYER BUT I HAVE HEARD OF THAT BEING A LIABILITY.
09:41:22 I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS AND VOTE
09:41:25 AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.
09:41:28 IF THEY ARE TO HAVE THE SUPER BOWL HERE, THEY CAN DO SO
09:41:32 WITHOUT ADDING 5-G TECHNOLOGY.
09:41:35 THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS NUMBER 25 AND 26.
09:41:44 AS LONG AS MICROSOFT AND OTHER TECHNOLOGY ISN'T HARMFUL TO
09:41:47 THE HEALTH THEN THOSE AGENDA NUMBERS SHOULD BE OKAY.
09:41:51 HEALTH SHOULD BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYBODY'S MINDS.
09:41:53 THE THIRD THING I WANT TO ADDRESS ARE ALL OF THE AGENDA
09:41:57 ITEMS REGARDING POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS AND OTHER PUBLIC
09:42:00 SERVANTS.
09:42:04 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 25 AND 26.
09:42:09 ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE GREAT.
09:42:11 I THINK ANYTHING THAT THE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS NEED, WE
09:42:15 NEED TO GIVE TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE
09:42:17 THERE FOR US IN OUR TIME OF NEED SO I WOULD VOTE YAY FOR
09:42:23 EVERY ONE OF THOSE, IF THEY NEED SOMETHING, LET'S GIVE IT TO
09:42:26 THEM.
09:42:27 I HAD A QUESTION ON NUMBER 15.
09:42:30 THE PAYMENT PROCESS, AS LONG AS IT'S TRANSPARENT AND THE
09:42:33 GUIDELINES ARE FOLLOWED BY THE VENDOR, THEN THAT SHOULD BE
09:42:35 FINE.
09:42:37 NUMBER 28, SUPPORT OF THE HOMELESS, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE
09:42:41 MORE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:42:43 THERE WAS ONLY ONE SO I WAS HAPPY TO SEE IT BUT I THINK
09:42:46 THERE SHOULD BE MORE.
09:42:49 NUMBERS 21 AND 22 AND 23 KIND OF THE SAME AS THE PAYMENT
09:42:52 PROCESS, AS LONG AS IT'S TRANSPARENT AND ALL THE GUIDELINES
09:42:55 ARE FOLLOWED BY THE VENDORS, THEN THOSE ARE FINE.
09:42:59 NUMBER 20 AND 44 REGARDING CELADON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TAX
09:43:05 EXEMPTION, IT CANNOT BE GRANTED BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENT HERE
09:43:08 STATES FORMS MUST BE COMPLETE AND EXHIBIT A IS NOT COMPLETE.
09:43:11 NOTHING IS FILLED OUT EXCEPT FOR THE SIXTH.
09:43:14 THE REST OF THE FORM IS BLANK.
09:43:19 THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS NUMBER 36 ON THE
09:43:22 AGENDA, THE GASPARILLA FESTIVAL OF THE ARTS ON KENNEDY
09:43:26 BETWEEN NEBRASKA AND MERIDIAN TO CELEBRATE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF
09:43:30 OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, STRENGTH AND COMMUNITY BONDS, ET CETERA.
09:43:33 AS LONG AS THE ART IS NOT LEADING TO RESTRAIN POLITICAL
09:43:38 VIEWS SUCH AS TO INCITE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE LIKE THEN
09:43:43 THAT SHOULD BE FINE.
09:43:44 I'M ALL FOR CREATIVITY.
09:43:46 THE SAME CONCEPT FOR 43.
09:43:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:43:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
09:43:54 JUST TO LET I KNOW THAT ITEM NUMBER 44 THAT YOU HAD A
09:43:57 COMMENT ABOUT, THAT IS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE WILL
09:43:59 BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT IF YOU WANT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC
09:44:02 TO THAT ITEM AT THAT TIME.
09:44:03 >> OKAY.
09:44:05 THANK YOU.
09:44:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:44:07 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:44:07 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:44:18 PAT RECEIVED A COMMENDATION TODAY.
09:44:21 SHE'S A VERY GOOD PERSON.
09:44:23 BUT THAT CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURT, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
09:44:26 COURT, THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE CAN SLIDE OVER TO THE
09:44:30 PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.
09:44:33 DON'T DO A DAMN THING INFORM AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:44:36 AND THE STATISTICS, THE PERCENTAGES AIN'T NOTHING CHANGE.
09:44:40 AIN'T NOTHING CHANGED.
09:44:41 ALL THE AWARDS AND ALL THAT GARBAGE YOU DOING STANDING AND
09:44:46 PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND PRAYERS, TAMPA CITY
09:44:48 COUNCIL, TAMPA AFRICAN PEOPLE BUSINESS.
09:44:52 AND ALL OF CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES FROM DISTRICT 5 NEED
09:44:55 TO BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT.
09:44:57 IT NEEDS TO BE A NEW STANDARD FOR ALL BLACK PEOPLE IN THE
09:45:03 UNITED STATES.
09:45:03 AND THAT NEW STANDARD IS, NO STANDING FOR NO RED WHITE AND
09:45:13 BLUE GARBAGE FLAG.
09:45:14 ABSOLUTELY NOT.
09:45:15 YOU ARE NOT TRULY BLACK IF YOU ARE DOING IT.
09:45:17 IT NEEDS TO BE A NEW STANDARD FOR OUR REPRESENTATIVES, TO
09:45:21 LET EVERYONE KNOW, LET THE WHITE PEOPLE KNOW, SINCE 1777, WE
09:45:27 HAVE BEEN UNDER THAT FLAG, UNDER SLAVERY, UNDER LYNCHING,
09:45:32 UNDER JIM CROW, UNDER COMMUNITIES, ROSEWOOD, BLACK WALL
09:45:42 STREET, WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING IT.
09:45:46 SO FOR OUR REPRESENTATIVES, THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING OH TO
09:45:50 KNOW IN YOU ARE TRULY BLACK, YOU CAN'T STAND FOR THAT FLAG.
09:45:53 YOU CANNOT STAND FOR IT.
09:45:55 IT'S HATRED.
09:45:56 IT REPRESENTS HATRED.
09:45:57 AND IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
09:45:59 IT NEEDS TO BE A NEW DAY.
09:46:00 AND THE SAME WAY THAT NEED TO GET RID OF THAT CONFEDERATE
09:46:06 FLAG THAT WE HAVE BEEN LYNCHED UNDER EVERYTHING ELSE, WHY
09:46:10 PEOPLE GLORIFY IT.
09:46:11 IT'S LIKE STANDING FOR THE NAZI FLAG.
09:46:16 THEY WON'T DO IT.
09:46:17 THEY WON'T DO IT.
09:46:18 FOR BLACK PEOPLE YOU ALL THINK WE ARE SO IGNORANT, AND ABOUT
09:46:23 HUMAN RIGHTS, CIVIL RIGHTS, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, BASIC
09:46:26 RIGHTS, ENVIRONMENTAL RIGHTS, THAT YOU ALL THINK WE ARE
09:46:31 SUPPOSED TO DO IT.
09:46:32 IF YOU ARE BLACK, IF YOU STAND FOR THAT FLAG, YOU ARE NOT
09:46:35 BLACK.
09:46:35 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE BLACK.
09:46:37 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A SLAVE.
09:46:39 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT 620 YEARS OF OPPRESSION MEANS.
09:46:45 ALL OF THAT GOING ON DOWN THERE IS TRICKERY.
09:46:49 NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
09:46:50 WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION.
09:46:52 AND WE DESERVE 26% OF THE GOODNESS OF IT.
09:46:58 NOT 60 OR 70 OR 80% INCARCERATION.
09:47:02 WE DESERVE 26% OF THE GOODNESS OF IT.
09:47:05 WE WANT OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO SHOW THE PEOPLE AND WHY THE
09:47:18 HELL ARE YOU STANDING FOR A RED WHITE AND BLUE FLAG.
09:47:21 LOOK WHAT THEY DONE TO THE AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:47:24 THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CALLING MOTHERS BITCHES
09:47:28 AND CALLING THEM SONS OF BITCHES.
09:47:30 THE MAYOR OF THIS CITY BUCKHORN TALKING ABOUT BRINGING A
09:47:37 MAN'S HEAD, AND THAT'S THE CONVERSATION YOU ALL LIKELY
09:47:40 ENGAGE IN AND THAT'S THE KIND OF CONVERSATION YOU ALL WANT
09:47:43 BLACK PEOPLE TO THINK, OH, YEAH, WE COOL WITH IT.
09:47:45 WE AIN'T COOL WITH IT LIKE THAT.
09:47:47 STOP STANDING FOR THAT FLAG.
09:47:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:47:49 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:47:50 >> MY NAME IS CLAY DANIELS.
09:47:56 I BEEN COMING UP HERE FOR 30 YEARS ABOUT THE SAME COMPLAINT.
09:47:59 I HOPE YOU ALL WILL TAKE ME SERIOUSLY.
09:48:02 I GAVE YOU ALL A -- FROM THE WORLD ORGANIZATIONS ABOUT LOUD
09:48:10 MISS I CAN IN AMERICA.
09:48:11 THIS NOISE IS OUT OF CONTROL.
09:48:12 ONLY TWO COUNCILMEN WERE KIND ENOUGH TO CALL ME WITH THIS
09:48:17 PROBLEM.
09:48:17 I NEED ALL OF YOU ALL'S HELP.
09:48:20 MY COUNCILMAN MR. ORLANDO GUDES TOLD ME TODAY YOU ALL ARE
09:48:24 GOING TO WORK ON THIS PROBLEM.
09:48:25 >> WE CAN'T WAIT TO WORK ON NOTHING.
09:48:28 WE NEED TO GET STARTED NOW.
09:48:30 EACH MEMBER NEEDS TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE,
09:48:33 AND THE MAYOR, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE SENIOR CITIZENS OF
09:48:39 SUFFERING.
09:48:39 WE ARE THE ONES THAT VOTE AND I WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE ME
09:48:45 SERIOUSLY.
09:48:46 I WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE ME SERIOUSLY.
09:48:48 DON'T PLAY ME CHEAP.
09:48:50 BECAUSE SENIOR CITIZENS, THEY WATCHING.
09:48:52 I'M TELLING YOU, DON'T TAKE ME CHEAP.
09:48:54 DON'T TAKE ME CHEAP.
09:48:56 WE GOT ANDREW WARREN IN THERE.
09:48:58 DON'T TAKE ME CHEEK CHEAP.
09:49:00 WE NEED YOU ALL'S HELP.
09:49:03 I KNOW YOU CAN DO BETTER.
09:49:04 I AM NOT TALKING TO THE WHITE HOUSE IN WASHINGTON.
09:49:07 I'M TALKING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE IN TAMPA.
09:49:09 I NEED YOU ALL'S HELP WITH THIS LOUD MUSIC PROBLEM.
09:49:13 I AM ASKING YOU ALL TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE CHIEF AND THE
09:49:15 MAYOR ABOUT THE CRACKDOWN ON THIS NOISE.
09:49:18 THE LAW IS ALREADY THERE.
09:49:20 IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED.
09:49:23 WE CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO GO BACK AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH
09:49:25 THIS PROBLEM.
09:49:26 WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS NOW BECAUSE THE PEOPLE CAUSING
09:49:30 ALL THIS PROBLEM, THEY DON'T HAVE A VOTE, THEY DON'T OWN ANY
09:49:34 PROPERTY.
09:49:34 ALL THEY DO IS DESTROY AND TAP THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS
09:49:38 GARBAGE NOISE.
09:49:39 THAT BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
09:49:41 WE SICK OF IT.
09:49:42 WE TIRED OF IT.
09:49:43 WE NEED YOU ALL HELP.
09:49:45 AND THIS SAYS THAT THESE PEOPLE RIDE AROUND WITH THIS NOISE,
09:49:51 THEY ADVERTISING DRUGS.
09:49:52 AND ONE THIRD OF THE DEPARTMENT DID A SERIES, IT SAYS THAT
09:49:58 THESE PEOPLE, SOME HAVE OUT STANDING WARRANTS AND HAVE GUNS.
09:50:03 WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE SAME PROBLEM AT ONCE.
09:50:05 STOP THE LOUD MUSIC, CRACK DOWN ON IT AND GET THE GUNS OFF
09:50:09 THE STREET SO THE HOMICIDE RATE DROP IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
09:50:12 TAKE IT TWO IN ONE.
09:50:14 BUT YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO ME.
09:50:16 BUT MY GRANDDADDY ONCE TOLD ME, THERE COME A TIME WHEN YOU
09:50:20 HAVE GOT TO LISTEN, YOU BETTER LISTEN, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY
09:50:23 IMPORTANT.
09:50:24 WE SENIOR CITIZENS DOING THIS PETITION, WE GOT THE VOTE
09:50:28 CARD.
09:50:28 THAT VOTE IS A VERY POWERFUL TOOL.
09:50:30 SO I AM ASKING YOU ALL AGAIN TO CONTACT, WRITE A LETTER TO
09:50:34 THE CHIEF, AND GET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CRACK DOWN ON
09:50:38 THIS NOISE.
09:50:39 THIS NOISE IS EMBARRASSING TO THE CITY, AND THIS YOUNG LADY
09:50:43 SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE SUPER BOWL.
09:50:44 YOU GO BACK TO THE LAST SUPER BOWL, A FAMILY HAD TO MOVE
09:50:48 FROM DOWNTOWN THE NOISE WAS SO BAD THEY COULDN'T SLEEP AT
09:50:50 NIGHT.
09:50:51 WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
09:50:52 IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM.
09:50:54 YOU ALL NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
09:50:56 YOU CAN'T LET THESE THUGS AND DRUG DEALERS TAKE OVER WITH
09:51:00 THIS NOISE.
09:51:00 IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
09:51:02 SO I'M ASKING YOU ALL AGAIN, AND I NEED A COMMITMENT FROM
09:51:06 ALL SEVEN OF YOU ALL, WILL YOU ALL WRITE A LETTER TO THE
09:51:09 CHIEF TO CRACK DOWN ON THIS LOUD MUSIC FROM THESE CARS?
09:51:13 I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE DO THIS FOR ME, BECAUSE IF YOU
09:51:16 ALL LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU ALL HAVE THIS
09:51:19 PROBLEM, AND IF YOU ARE FIXING A POTHOLE, A AND IT'S NOT
09:51:23 COMPLETED, YOU HAVE GOT A PROBLEM.
09:51:28 SO I AM ASKING YOU ALL AGAIN, I NEED YOU ALL HELP.
09:51:31 I'M BEGGING YOU ALL TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE CHIEF TO CRACK
09:51:36 DOWN ON THIS NOISE AND GET A RECORD EVERY THREE MONTHS TO
09:51:39 FIND OUT HOW MANY TICKETS THEY ARE WRITING.
09:51:41 THANK YOU.
09:51:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:44 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:51:45 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:51:50 MY NAME IS JIM JUNECKO, AN OPERATING ENGINEER AND THE
09:51:53 SECRETARY-TREASURER OF THE FLORIDA GULF COAST BUILDING AND
09:51:56 CONSTRUCTION TRADE COUNCIL.
09:51:58 WE REPRESENT THOUSANDS OF HARDWORKING WOMEN AND MEN IN THE
09:52:01 CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY HERE AND AROUND TAMPA.
09:52:03 THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE
09:52:05 DONE AND THE PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD ON
09:52:08 THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE 62 ON TODAY'S AGENDA, SPECIAL
09:52:13 THANKS TO COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR BEING SUCH A CHAMPION FOR
09:52:16 WORKING FAMILIES ON THIS ISSUE.
09:52:17 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US, IN INVESTING IN THE NEXT
09:52:21 GENERATION OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IS A REALLY URGENT ISSUE
09:52:27 RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
09:52:29 THERE IS A DIRE SHORTAGE OF SKILLED WORKERS, AND AGING
09:52:33 WORKFORCE.
09:52:34 THE AVERAGE CONSTRUCTION WORKER IS OVER AGE 50 AND WE ARE
09:52:37 GOING TO NEED THE EX-NEXT GENERATION OF WORKERS TO COME IN
09:52:40 AND BE PROPERLY TRAINED AND EDUCATED WITH ON-THE-JOB
09:52:44 TRAINING COMPONENT AS WELL AS THE ACADEMIC COMPONENT, AND
09:52:48 WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE ORDINANCE SO FAR AS IT'S WRITTEN IS A
09:52:52 FANTASTIC FIRST STEP.
09:52:54 I THINK IF WE WERE IN A CLASSROOM SETTING, WE WOULD GET A
09:52:58 B-PLUS ON THIS BUT I KNOW THAT WE ALL WANT TO BE A-PLUS
09:53:01 STUDENTS, AND SO WE HAVE A REALLY LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING
09:53:07 ON IN THE ORDINANCE.
09:53:08 WE DO HAVE ONE CONCERN THAT THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW AS IT'S
09:53:12 WRITTEN IS LIMIT TOAD ONLY VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS,
09:53:16 AND WHEN WE THINK OF THIS ORDINANCE, WE HAVE TO THINK IT IN
09:53:21 TERMS OF CAREER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
09:53:23 SO BY LIMITING THE ORDINANCE TO ONLY VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION
09:53:28 PROJECTS, WE ARE LIMITING CAREER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT NEXT
09:53:32 GENERATION SKILLED WORKERS IN CONSTRUCTION.
09:53:36 WE LOVE THE REQUIREMENT, THE MANDATE, THE MANDATE COMPONENT
09:53:42 TO THE ORDINANCE IS WONDERFUL.
09:53:44 THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER IS
09:53:48 INSTITUTING ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND NOT JUST LIMITING
09:53:53 THE ORDINANCE TO VERTICAL PROJECTS.
09:53:58 WE NEED TO APPLY THIS ORDINANCE TO ALL CONSTRUCTION
09:54:01 PROJECTS.
09:54:01 OTHERWISE IT'S FANTASTIC.
09:54:03 LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED WORK TOGETHER TO GET THIS
09:54:05 DONE.
09:54:06 I KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN, AND WE RECOGNIZE
09:54:10 THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING, EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN TO
09:54:14 PROVIDE THESE EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR RESIDENTS.
09:54:17 THANKS SO MUCH.
09:54:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:19 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:54:20 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:54:35 MY NAME IS SEAN MCDONALD.
09:54:37 FIRST OFF, I WANT TO COMMEND THIS COUNCIL FOR GOING FORWARD
09:54:40 WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
09:54:42 AS I SAID, MY NAME IS SEAN MCDONALD.
09:54:46 I COMPLETED A FIVE-YEAR APPRENTICESHIP WITH ELECTRICAL
09:54:49 WORKERS.
09:54:51 I CAN TELL YOU IT'S OPENED MORE DOORS FOR ME THAN MARKETING
09:54:57 AS WELL.
09:54:58 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WALKED AWAY, WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE
09:55:03 MONEY IN THE BANK QUESTION HE I FINISHED MY APPRENTICESHIP.
09:55:07 ALSO, REQUIRING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF APPRENTICES THAT ARE
09:55:11 ENROLLED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION,
09:55:13 APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, CITY OF TAMPA FUNDED
09:55:17 PROJECTS THAT EXCEED PREDETERMINED COST AS A STEP IN THE
09:55:21 RIGHT DIRECTION AND REBUILDING A DEPLETED WORKFORCE.
09:55:24 MANY CONTRACTORS ALREADY HAVE APPRENTICESHIPS IN PLACE.
09:55:30 IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO INVEST IN YOUR LOCAL RESIDENTS IN
09:55:33 FUNDING PROJECTS WITH LOCAL MONEY.
09:55:36 BY DRAFTING AND PASSING AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING CONTRACTORS
09:55:39 TO USE APPRENTICES ON CITY FUNDED PROJECTS IT WILL ENABLE
09:55:44 THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE NOT CONCERNED WITH ELEVATING AND
09:55:47 TRAINING THE NEXT SKILLED WORKFORCE TO DO JUST THAT.
09:55:52 OVER THE YEARS WE PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON SENDING KIDS TO
09:55:55 COLLEGE, WHICH IS WHAT I DID IN THE BEGINNING, AND NEGLECTED
09:55:58 THE TRADES, AND IT SHOWS.
09:56:01 THIS ORDINANCE WILL INCENTIVIZE THE CONTRACTOR IF HE WANTS
09:56:04 TO COMPETE FOR WORK FUNDED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:56:08 AS WELL AS PATHWAY FOR TRADES MEN AND WOMEN THAT MAY NOT
09:56:12 OTHERWISE BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO ATTEND A STATE OF FLORIDA
09:56:15 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP.
09:56:19 THIS ORDINANCE IS A WIN-WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.
09:56:25 IT'S TRAINING ITS WORKFORCE.
09:56:27 IT'S A WIN FOR THE WORKER BY GETTING THE TRAINING NECESSARY
09:56:29 TO ADVANCE TO PAY AND SKILL SET AND IT'S A WIN FOR THE CITY
09:56:34 OF TAMPA BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT INVESTING IN ITS OWN
09:56:37 COMMUNITY WITH CITY FUNDED PROJECTS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY
09:56:41 THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD BE INVESTING IN THE HUMAN CAPITAL OF
09:56:44 ITS LOCAL RESIDENTS.
09:56:45 ALSO, MOST OF THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED
09:56:50 PARTIALLY BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS, SO YOU WOULD BE
09:56:54 HELPING OUT AS WELL.
09:56:57 SO THAT SHOULD MAKE SENSE.
09:56:58 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:57:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:02 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:57:03 >> MY NAME IS KEN WILLIAMS, FEDERAL DRIVE, TAMPA 33634.
09:57:16 I'M HERE TODAY TO ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL TO ADOPT AN
09:57:20 APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE IN THIS CITY, AND WITH A PROJECTED
09:57:24 GROWTH OF UP TO 40% IN OUR NEAR FUTURE.
09:57:28 THE UNITED WAY PUT OUT A FLORIDA REPORT KNOWN AS ALICE,
09:57:33 ACCESS LIMITED INCOME CONSTRAINED.
09:57:40 THE STATISTICS OFFERED THAT 33% OF OUR POPULATION IN FLORIDA
09:57:47 IS AT HIGH RISK AND FALLING INTO -- COULD FALL INTO
09:57:52 FINANCIAL RUIN.
09:57:53 THEY ARE ALSO KNOWN AS THE WORKING POOR.
09:57:57 AS A 35 YEAR UPS DRIVER, I KNOW FIRST HAND KNOCKING ON MY
09:58:03 CUSTOMERS DOORS, HOME FROM WORK, AND HANDING OFF THE REINS
09:58:11 AND TAKING HER SHIFT, AND I HAVE SEEN WHAT IT'S DONE TO
09:58:13 THEM.
09:58:16 IT'S HARD TO LIVE ON THE ECONOMY.
09:58:22 THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF TALK IN THE YEARS ABOUT STEM, SCIENCE,
09:58:25 TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING AND MATH.
09:58:27 AND WHAT THAT BRINGS TO THE TABLE AND HOW WE NEED TO PROMOTE
09:58:31 IT.
09:58:31 BUT I'M ENCOURAGING YOU TO ADOPT STEAM, SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY,
09:58:38 APPRENTICESHIP, ENGINEERING, APPRENTICESHIP, AND MATH.
09:58:44 SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THAT APPRENTICESHIPS ARE
09:58:47 A SOLID PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS, THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED
09:58:52 IN MY 37 YEARS AT UFS BECAUSE I AM STILL THERE.
09:58:57 SO I ALSO THINK THAT WE CAN PROMOTE AND DO BETTER THAN THE
09:59:02 3% OF WOMEN NATIONALLY THAT ARE IN CRAFTS AND TRADE.
09:59:08 I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT NUMBER DRASTICALLY IMPROVE AND
09:59:11 IMPROVE THE LIVES OF FAMILY MEMBERS, MALE, FEMALE, AND SO
09:59:16 FORTH.
09:59:17 SO LET'S ADOPT THIS APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
09:59:19 LET'S RAISE THE CITY'S EQUITY PROFILE, ESPECIALLY IN THE
09:59:24 UPCOMING SUPER BOWL, SO WE CAN DO THAT PRIOR TO SUPER BOWL,
09:59:27 SO THAT OUR CITY WILL BE BUILT BY LOCALS, FOR LOCALS, AND
09:59:34 THE NATION, TRULY A CITY GROWN AT HOME.
09:59:41 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:59:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:47 MADAM CLERK, FOR ITEM 20, WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS
09:59:51 ONLINE THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT?
09:59:56 >> THEY ARE TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:59:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU ARE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 20,
10:00:01 THIS WILL BE THE TIME TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:00:04 THERE WON'T BE A HEARING OR PUBLIC HEARING LATER ON.
10:00:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
10:00:09 MARTIN SHELBY.
10:00:12 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:00:13 ITEM NUMBER 20 IS TIED TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:00:16 IT'S ITEM 44, WHICH IS AN AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION.
10:00:25 SO MY SUGGESTION, COUNCIL, WOULD BE PROCEDURALLY, AND THE
10:00:31 FINANCE CHAIR, CHAIRED BY CHAIRMAN MIRANDA, WE HOLD ITEMS 20
10:00:36 AND 21 BECAUSE THOSE ARE BOTH TIED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:00:40 ITEM 44 AND 20, 21, 46 AND 47, SO THAT WOULD BE MY
10:00:45 RECOMMENDATION AND MOVE THOSE AFTER YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC
10:00:47 HEARING AND TAKE THOSE ORDINANCES.
10:00:50 46 AND 47.
10:00:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:00:54 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:00:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
10:00:55 >> NO PROBLEM.
10:00:56 THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR LETTING US SPEAK ON THIS.
10:01:00 I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ON THE DISCUSSION OF THE
10:01:02 APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
10:01:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND YOUR NAME?
10:01:06 >> BRIAN LAMBERT.
10:01:08 I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF ABC ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND
10:01:11 CONTRACTORS FOR FLORIDA GULF COAST CHAPTER REPRESENTING
10:01:15 ALMOST 500 DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR MEMBER COMPANIES.
10:01:21 I THINK JUST TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT
10:01:24 I HEARD PREVIOUSLY, NUMBER ONE FIRST AND FOREMOST, ABC
10:01:30 PROMOTES APPRENTICESHIP ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
10:01:34 IT'S IN THEIR BLOOD.
10:01:35 IT'S PART OF WHAT THOUGH VIEW IN CONSTRUCTION WITH THEIR
10:01:38 MEMBERS.
10:01:38 SO PLEASE DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND THAT ABC IS AGAINST
10:01:43 APPRENTICESHIP.
10:01:44 THEY ARE NOT.
10:01:45 THEY PROMOTE IT THEMSELVES.
10:01:49 THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 66 CONSTRUCTION FIRMS THAT
10:01:53 PARTICIPATE IN THEIR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, AND THAT MEANS
10:01:57 THERE ARE 66 DIFFERENT MEMBER COMPANIES THAT ARE TRAINING
10:02:02 AND PUT YOUNGER FOLKS TO WORK EVERY DAY.
10:02:09 THERE ARE ABOUT 500 APPRENTICES IN 8 DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION
10:02:13 TRADES WITHIN THE ABC PROGRAM.
10:02:19 BUT I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF ABC TO OPPOSE THIS
10:02:23 AMENDMENT -- OR TO OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.
10:02:26 AND THE REASON IS, THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS.
10:02:31 NUMBER ONE, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S UNNECESSARY, BECAUSE IT'S
10:02:34 ALREADY BEING DONE.
10:02:36 NUMBER TWO, IT'S A MANDATE.
10:02:38 THERE IS NOT A REASON FOR A MANDATE.
10:02:41 THE INDUSTRY IS ALREADY TACKLING THIS ISSUE THEMSELVES.
10:02:45 THERE IS NO REASON TO CREATE A BARRIER FOR PEOPLE ENTERING
10:02:49 INTO CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY BASED ON A CERTAIN
10:02:54 PERCENTAGE NUMBER OF APPRENTICES, HOURS BEING USED.
10:02:58 WHILE IT'S GREAT THAT THE APPRENTICESHIP IS BEING PROMOTED,
10:03:02 IT IS ALREADY BEING PROMOTED IN THE INDUSTRY.
10:03:05 THERE IS NO REASON TO CREATE A MANDATE.
10:03:11 THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HAS DELEGATED TO THE FLORIDA
10:03:14 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO PROMOTE, REGULATE AND STIMULATE
10:03:19 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
10:03:21 SO PARTIALLY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE
10:03:26 HEARD, ABC IS ALREADY FIGHTING THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG ON
10:03:31 AN ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAVE ENACTED WHICH IS ALMOST A
10:03:34 REPLICATE TO THIS.
10:03:35 AND THE REASON AGAIN IS BECAUSE IT'S A MANDATE, IT'S NOT,
10:03:40 YOU KNOW, AN INCENTIVE.
10:03:42 I APPRECIATE THE CITY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SPEAKING WITH HIS
10:03:48 GROUP IN TERMS OF TRYING TO WORK COHESIVELY WITH THE CITY,
10:03:53 TO AVOID INDUSTRY SHORTAGES THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT.
10:03:59 WE ARE ALREADY ADDRESSING IT.
10:04:03 AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S A GOVERNMENTAL INTRUSION UPON
10:04:07 SOMEBODY'S CHOICE OF WORKFORCE.
10:04:14 IN ANY OTHER BUSINESS, IN ANY OTHER INDUSTRY, WE ARE NOT
10:04:17 TELLING PEOPLE WHO THEY CAN HIRE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR
10:04:24 WORKFORCE IS GOING TO BE THIS TYPE OF --
10:04:27 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:04:28 I WILL WRAP UP.
10:04:29 >>LUIS VIERA: A MOTION FOR ANOTHER MINUTE.
10:04:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
10:04:34 >> THANK YOU.
10:04:36 IN ANY EVENT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP.
10:04:39 BUT I GUESS MY FINAL POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS THE
10:04:44 ANSWERS, NO, YOU WOULD NOT WANT SOMEONE TELLING YOU HOW TO
10:04:48 RUN YOUR BUSINESS.
10:04:49 YOU KNOW FOR YOUR BUSINESS, NOW THE CORRECT NUMBER OF NUMBER
10:04:56 PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN STAFF PROJECTS WITH.
10:05:00 YOU KNOW HOW YOU CAN RUN A PROJECT.
10:05:03 YOU DON'T NEED THE GOVERNMENT INTRUDING IN THAT.
10:05:06 AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING ATTEMPTED HERE.
10:05:08 IF YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, YOU CAN PROMOTE
10:05:14 APPRENTICESHIPS IN AN INCENTIVE MANNER RATHER THAN A
10:05:19 MANDATE.
10:05:20 THANK YOU.
10:05:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUICK PROCEDURAL QUESTION, MR. CHAIR.
10:05:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:05:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SIR, AND I WANT TO ASK THIS TO THE
10:05:27 TRADES FOLKS WHO WERE HERE EARLIER.
10:05:28 WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS LATER.
10:05:31 ARE YOU ALL GOING TO BE STICKING AROUND IN CASE WE HAVE ANY
10:05:34 QUESTIONS TO ASK -- THE CHAIRMAN DOESN'T WANT US TO ASK
10:05:40 QUESTIONS NOW, WHICH I AGREE WITH.
10:05:44 BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
10:05:45 ARE YOU GOING TO STICK AROUND LATER?
10:05:49 >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOTICE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION SO I
10:05:54 HAVEN'T MADE TIME FOR IT TODAY.
10:05:56 IF IT'S GOING TO BE --
10:05:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL CALL YOU WITH MY QUESTIONS BEFORE
10:05:59 WE PUT IT IN AN ORDINANCE.
10:06:01 THANK YOU.
10:06:01 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
10:06:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:06:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:06:07 IF MR. LAMBERT, WHO IS A FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE AND A NICE
10:06:11 GENTLEMEN, I CAN TEXT YOURSELF OR MR. CONA OR ANYBODY ELSE
10:06:16 WHO IS HERE, IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO VIRTUAL OR WHATEVER.
10:06:18 SO I JUST MAKE THAT AN OPTION.
10:06:20 THANK YOU.
10:06:21 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:23 THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILMEN.
10:06:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU MAY WANT TO CONTACT ALL OF US.
10:06:30 WITH YOUR CONCERNS.
10:06:32 MR. CONA?
10:06:34 I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
10:06:37 >> YES.
10:06:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
10:06:39 >> MY NAME IS STEVE CONA, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF
10:06:44 ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS.
10:06:46 WE REPRESENT OVER 470 CONSTRUCTION FIRMS ON FLORIDA'S GULF
10:06:51 COAST.
10:06:51 WE ALSO REPRESENT 500 PLUS APPRENTICES IN OUR APPRENTICE
10:06:57 PROGRAM.
10:06:57 SO TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE APPRENTICE
10:07:00 ORDINANCE.
10:07:01 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
10:07:04 IT IS A GOOD -- IT'S GOOD POLICY ALWAYS TO PROMOTE
10:07:08 APPRENTICESHIP.
10:07:09 IT'S BAD POLICY TO MAKE IT PUNITIVE TO THE CONTRACTORS WHO
10:07:15 ARE HIRING APPRENTICES.
10:07:17 THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THE ORDINANCE.
10:07:19 WHEN WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. VIERA, I SAID THE ONLY
10:07:21 NONSTARTER WE HAVE ABOUT ANY APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE IS THE
10:07:24 FACT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PENALIZE -- PENALIZE CONTRACTORS
10:07:27 WHO ARE DOING WORK WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE A QUALITY
10:07:30 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
10:07:31 SO THIS IS NOT INCENTIVE, IT IS A PUNITIVE -- IT'S PUNITIVE
10:07:36 DAMAGES TO THE CONTRACTOR IF THEY DON'T MEET SOME SORT OF
10:07:40 RANDOM PERCENTAGE OF APPRENTICES ON A SPECIFIC JOB SITE.
10:07:45 AND LET ME ACTUALLY JUST DEFINE WHAT AN APPRENTICE IS.
10:07:49 AN APPRENTICE IS A STUDENT WHO IS ENROLLED IN A REGISTERED
10:07:52 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.
10:07:56 WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS SHOULD BE USED
10:07:59 FOR CONSTRUCTION PROCUREMENT.
10:08:01 THESE STUDENTS MUST AT MINIMUM DO 144 HOURS OF CLASSROOM
10:08:07 TRAINING, 2,000 ON-THE-JOB TRAINING HOURS PER YEAR.
10:08:11 SO WOULD YOU ASK YOURSELF THIS?
10:08:13 WOULD YOU MANDATE BUSINESSES WORKING WITH THE CITY TO HIRE
10:08:16 STUDENTS AT HCC, USF, OR UT TO DO A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE
10:08:20 CONTRACTS?
10:08:21 THE ANSWER IS NO.
10:08:22 SO WHY WOULD YOU USE IT FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS?
10:08:25 APPRENTICES ARE NOT TO EARN CONSTRUCTION JOBS, THEY ARE
10:08:30 STUDENTS LEARNING THEIR TRADE.
10:08:32 IF THE CITY OF TAMPA WANTS TO MAKE A GREAT IMPACT IN
10:08:35 APPRENTICESHIP EDUCATION, YOU SHOULD START YOUR OWN
10:08:38 APPRENTICESHIP TRAINING PROGRAM.
10:08:40 YOU YOURSELF EMPLOY HUNDREDS OF SKILLED WORKERS IN THE CITY
10:08:43 OF TAMPA.
10:08:44 YOU HAVE NO APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR YOUR OWN WORKFORCE.
10:08:48 SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN INCENTIVE,
10:08:51 WE ARE ALL 100% BEHIND THAT.
10:08:53 WE HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED THAT TO THE COUNCIL.
10:08:55 IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT PUNITIVE TOWARDS BUSINESSES WHO
10:08:57 ARE HIRING APPRENTICES, WE ARE GOING TO BE OPPOSED TO IT.
10:09:00 WE ARE ALREADY SUING THE CITY OF ST. PETE.
10:09:03 THAT LAWSUIT IS UNDERWAY.
10:09:04 WE ARE HOPING TO GET HEARINGS ON THAT.
10:09:06 WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BATTLE PUNITIVE
10:09:09 DAMAGES TO CONTRACTORS WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING
10:09:12 IN APPRENTICESHIP.
10:09:13 IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT INCENTIVE, WE ARE 100% BEHIND THAT.
10:09:16 THE FACT THAT WE CONTINUE -- IT CONTINUES TO BE PUNITIVE, WE
10:09:19 HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
10:09:20 THAT SO WE ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND
10:09:23 WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST PROVIDERS OF APPRENTICESHIP
10:09:25 TRAINING.
10:09:25 SO WE WOULD GAIN TO BEST BUT BUSINESSES WILL BE HARMED IN
10:09:31 THE PROCESS TO COMPETE FOR JOBS WITH THE CITY.
10:09:33 SO WE OPPOSE IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE PUNITIVE TOWARDS
10:09:36 CONTRACTORS.
10:09:37 THANK YOU.
10:09:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:38 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:09:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CONA, AGAIN, IF WE CAN HAVE
10:09:44 DISCUSSION, CALL ME.
10:09:46 I HAVE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, AND WE ARE JUST DOING
10:09:50 DISCUSSION TODAY BECAUSE SOME OF THESE COMMENTS I WANT TO
10:09:53 ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE COMMENTS.
10:09:54 I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY SO OF THE COMMENTS.
10:09:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:09:58 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:09:59 >> MY NAME IS SHIV SHUKLA, AND FIRE CHIEF BUT I AM USUALLY
10:10:08 HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT I WANT TO TALK
10:10:11 ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
10:10:12 WHEN I SAW THAT YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE OPTION FOR
10:10:15 PUBLIC COMMENT, I DON'T WANT TO SAY I WAS SURPRISED BUT I
10:10:17 WAS PRETTY SURPRISED.
10:10:18 SO I HAVE BEEN COMING TO EVERY CITY COUNCIL MECHANIC FOR THE
10:10:22 PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND TALK TO PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY CAN'T
10:10:25 MAKE IT OUT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER AT 9 A.M. ON A
10:10:28 THURSDAY.
10:10:28 PEOPLE GO TO SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILY
10:10:31 OBLIGATIONS, PEOPLE WHO WORK, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
10:10:38 PUBLIC PANDEMIC AND A PERFECT WAY FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO
10:10:43 TELL YOU HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE ISSUES.
10:10:48 THAT'S WHY PEOPLE UTILIZE IT.
10:10:53 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED BUT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN
10:10:56 YOUR NAME IS GOING TO BE CALLED UNDER VIRTUAL COMMENT FORUM
10:11:00 YOU HAVE TO WAIT ONLINE.
10:11:02 LIKE I SAID BEFORE, PEOPLE HAVE THINGS TO DO AND JOBS AND
10:11:07 NOT EVERYONE CAN SPEND TWO HOURS ON THEIR COMPUTER SIMPLY TO
10:11:10 PROVIDE A 3-MINUTE COMMENT.
10:11:12 YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND
10:11:14 COMMUNITY LEADERS.
10:11:19 LISTEN TO US AND TAKE ACTION BUT THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T
10:11:23 WANT TO HEAR US OUT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS
10:11:26 HAVE TO SAY IS TELLING.
10:11:30 THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER OPTION, A BETTER SOLUTION THAN TO
10:11:34 BLINDLY TAKE AWAY THIS OPTION.
10:11:35 YOU SHOULD BE MAKING IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE
10:11:38 INPUT, NOT HARDER.
10:11:41 I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE PROPOSAL.
10:11:46 ALSO, REJECT THE MOTION APPROVING THE USE OF FUND FOR TPD,
10:11:57 NO ONE BUT THE CLERK THINKS THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
10:11:59 I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ADOPT THE APPRENTICESHIP MOTION.
10:12:07 AND A MOTION INFORM ANOTHER MINUTE, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS
10:12:14 AGO YOU CUT OFF BLACK ADVOCATES FOR GOING OVER THEIR TIME.
10:12:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:20 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:12:21 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC?
10:12:22 >> YES, SIR.
10:12:23 >> TIM ZOUSO, CEO OF CELADON.
10:12:36 BASICALLY HERE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING US UNDER
10:12:39 CONSIDERATION, THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF
10:12:43 OUR DECISION MAKING ON WHETHER OR NOT TO CHOOSE TAMPA TO
10:12:46 BUILD OUR WASTE PAPER RECYCLING MATERIAL SYSTEM AT THE PORT,
10:12:52 PORT OF TAMPA IS AN EXCELLENT LOCATION FOR THIS, BUT BEING
10:12:55 LOCATED IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT, IT INDUCES SEVERAL COASTS
10:13:02 FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE
10:13:04 CONSIDERATION, AND MAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO US.
10:13:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:11 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:13:14 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:13:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, QUICK QUESTION.
10:13:25 THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE, SIR, ARE YOU FROM CELADON?
10:13:33 >> YES.
10:13:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T WANT TO BE RUDE.
10:13:36 IF YOU COULD COME BACK FOR A SECOND.
10:13:40 ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU.
10:13:45 WE ARE PLEASED THAT YOU ARE HERE, OBVIOUSLY.
10:13:47 WE ARE GLAD TO PROVIDE SOME INCENTIVES TO HELP MAKE IT WORK
10:13:51 OUT.
10:13:52 I SAW YOU ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING DOZENS, MAYBE MORE THAN
10:13:57 50 HIGH-PAYING JOBS TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:14:00 AND I JUST WANTED TO ENUNCIATE THAT ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US
10:14:05 AND I'M SURE ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR.
10:14:06 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:14:10 WE ARE BRINGING OVER 200 HIGH-PAYING JOBS.
10:14:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FANTASTIC.
10:14:14 THANK YOU.
10:14:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:14:17 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:14:17 >> I'M KEN STOLTENBERG, 1208 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD UNIT
10:14:26 510, I'M HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD LIKE --
10:14:30 THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO ITEM 68 WHICH IS DENSITY WORKSHOP
10:14:34 WHICH HAS BEEN POSTPONED SEVERAL TIMES.
10:14:36 I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE CAC FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
10:14:40 AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT SEVERAL MEETINGS, AND WE THINK THAT
10:14:44 WHILE IT WAS WELL-INTENTIONED 13 YEARS AGO, I WAS ONE OF THE
10:14:48 PEOPLE THAT HELPED WRITE IT, IT'S BECOME PROBLEMATIC FOR
10:14:52 SEVERAL REASONS NOW.
10:14:53 I AM NOT GOING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU IN THREE
10:14:55 MINUTES.
10:14:56 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AS THE CAC BOARD, WE ARE GOING TO
10:14:59 DO A WRITE-UP FOR YOU, SIGN OFF ON IT AND VOTE ON IT AND
10:15:03 THEN GIVE YOU OUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER AND OPINIONS AS A
10:15:06 BOARD WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS.
10:15:10 SO WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL READ IT AND CONSIDER OUR THOUGHTS
10:15:13 AND WISHES ON THE PARTICULAR ITEM.
10:15:18 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:15:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:20 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:15:37 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:15:38 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:15:39 >> ALL RIGHT.
10:15:39 MY NAME IS SAMANTHA AND I LIVE IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA.
10:15:43 I WILL BE SPEAKING TO ITEM 65 IN WHICH CITY COUNCIL
10:15:46 CONSIDERS REMOVING THE VOICE MAIL OPTION TO LEAVE A PUBLIC
10:15:51 COMMENT AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
10:15:52 I UNDERSTAND THAT THE VOICE MAIL OPTION WAS ONLY ADDED TO
10:15:54 ACCOMMODATE THE PANDEMIC.
10:15:56 HOWEVER, LEAVING VOICE MAILS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PUBLIC
10:15:58 COMMENT OPTION FROM THE START TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND
10:16:04 ALLOW CONSTITUENTS TO BE HEARD.
10:16:07 IT'S OUR JOB ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE MULTIPLE JOBS, AND/OR
10:16:11 NO JOB FLEXIBILITY, WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT
10:16:15 THE SAME TIME AS CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ESPECIALLY EARLY IN
10:16:17 THE MORNING ON THURSDAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF A WEEK.
10:16:21 AND COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS QUOTED IN A RECENT ARTICLE BY
10:16:27 CREATIVE LOAFING AND I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THOSE
10:16:29 COMMENTS.
10:16:30 AND JUST GIVING FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SEND A VOICE
10:16:33 MAIL I THINK COULD OVERBURDEN THE TIME OF COUNCIL
10:16:38 PROSPECTIVELY, END QUOTE.
10:16:40 LISTENING TO CONCERNS MUCH COMMUNITY MEMBERS IS NOT A
10:16:42 BURDEN.
10:16:42 IT'S IN YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION.
10:16:45 CONSTITUENTS EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS IS NOT ABUSING THE
10:16:47 SYSTEM.
10:16:48 CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTS THE INTERESTS OF ALL COMMUNITY
10:16:52 MEMBERS, NOT JUST MAYOR JANE CASTOR, KNOW IT JUST TAMPA
10:16:56 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND NOT JUST THE POLICE UNION.
10:16:58 HERE IS ANOTHER QUOTE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, AND I QUOTE.
10:17:02 THIS WAS NEVER CONTEMPLATED TO BE PERMANENT AND LEADS TO
10:17:05 MORE COSTS FOR OUR CLERK AND DUTIES IN THIS PANDEMIC.
10:17:10 IN 2020 ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY CREATING AUDIO FILES.
10:17:15 SO I HAVE A PRETTY SIMPLE SOLUTION FOR THIS ISSUE OF
10:17:18 ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.
10:17:20 CONSTITUENTS COULD RECORD THEIR 3 MINUTE MAXIMUM AUDIO FILE
10:17:23 AND UPLOAD TO THE SOME CITY WEB PAGE, AND THOSE WHO DON'T
10:17:27 HAVE ACTIVE TECHNOLOGY WHERE THEY CAN RECORD THEIR VOICES
10:17:31 CAN CONTINUE ON LEAVING VOICE MAILS, BUT RAPIDLY DECREASING
10:17:36 AMOUNTS OF VOICE MAILS THAT THE CLERK HAS TO GO THROUGH, AND
10:17:40 THEN CONSTITUENTS CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD IN
10:17:44 PUBLIC AND INCREASE TRANSPARENCY.
10:17:48 COUNCILMAN VIERA ALSO CITES, AND I NOTE, I KNOW THE VALUE TO
10:17:53 ALL OF THE PUBLIC AND MY CONSTITUENTS.
10:17:54 I ALWAYS REMAIN OPEN FOR ENGAGEMENT AS DO ALL OF MY
10:17:58 COLLEAGUES.
10:17:58 THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT TRUE.
10:18:02 ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONLY TWO OF YOU RESPONDED.
10:18:09 AND ALLOWING CONSTITUENTS TO HAVE THEIR VOICE MAILS
10:18:11 DISPLAYED AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ACTUALLY DECREASE IT IS
10:18:14 BURDEN ON CITY COUNCIL.
10:18:15 AND COUNCILMAN GUDES IN AUGUST FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF,
10:18:19 SO WHEN CITY COUNCIL REFERRED TO THE 90 MINUTE MEETINGS WITH
10:18:23 EVERYONE THAT HAS VOICE MAILS OR JUST LISTEN TO WHAT
10:18:29 CONSTITUENTS HAVE TO SAY.
10:18:30 AND ESSENTIALLY COUNCILMAN VIERA BY SAYING THAT MEETING WITH
10:18:34 CONSTITUENTS WOULD TAKE UP LESS TIME THAN LISTENING TO A
10:18:37 SERIES OF SHORT VOICE MAILS, TO INCREASE THE --
10:18:43 BUT THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO SUPPRESS THE VOICES OF
10:18:46 MARGINALIZED PEOPLE AS THEY SEND MONEY TO THE TAMPA POLICE
10:18:48 DEPARTMENT, AND MONEY THAT COULD GO TO HELP THE MOST
10:18:51 VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:18:55 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE THE VOICE MAIL OPTION
10:19:00 LOSES TRANSPARENCY OF VOICES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:19:05 [BELL SOUNDS]
10:19:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:06 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE SPEAKER ON
10:19:08 DECEMBER 14th AT FOREST HILLS AT 5:15 AND 6:15, I WILL
10:19:13 BE HOLDING WHAT I THINK IS MY 41st PROBABLY COMMUNITY
10:19:16 MEETING.
10:19:16 I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
10:19:20 SPEAK WITH ME THEN OR BEFORE.
10:19:22 MERRY CHRISTMAS.
10:19:22 HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
10:19:24 AND YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AT LUIS.VIERA@TAMPAGOV.NET.
10:19:35 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:19:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:36 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:19:37 WE GO TO THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS THAT ARE ONLINE.
10:19:42 I HAVE NINE BECAUSE ONE OF THEM ON THE LIST WAS HERE IN
10:19:45 PERSON.
10:19:47 MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE REGISTERED
10:19:50 SPEAKERS.
10:19:50 >>THE CLERK: THE FIRST SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE IS ANGEL
10:19:56 D'ANGELO.
10:19:58 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:20:00 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:20:01 >> THIS IS ANGEL D'ANGELO.
10:20:05 I AM SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK, AND SITTING AT MY DESK AT
10:20:09 WORK RIGHT NOW, SO THAT THIS IS -- I AGREE WITH THE LAST
10:20:17 SPEAKER THAT THE VOICE MAILS SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN
10:20:20 OPTION.
10:20:20 ALSO, COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, I SAW YOU LOOK AT YOUR PHONE WHEN
10:20:24 THE LAST SPEAKER WAS ADDRESSING YOU, WHAT YOU REALLY SHOW
10:20:29 YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:20:29 IT'S REALLY EXHAUSTING.
10:20:31 AND REALLY EXHAUSTING THAT ALL OF YOU ARE AT HEARING -- I
10:20:36 WISH I COULD DO --
10:20:38 >>> PLEASE ADDRESS THE BOARD AND NOT INDIVIDUAL
10:20:40 COUNCILMEMBER.
10:20:41 >>LUIS VIERA: POINT OF ORDER, IN I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
10:20:46 WE HAVE A RULE WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT TO BE ADDRESSED
10:20:51 INDIVIDUALLY.
10:20:52 I SUGGEST WE EITHER GET RID OF THAT RULE OR WE ENFORCE IT.
10:20:55 JUST MY OPINION.
10:20:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:58 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:20:59 >> I SUGGEST WE GET RID OF IT AS WELL, OKAY.
10:21:02 ANYWAY, FOR ALL THIS MONEY THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, FOR
10:21:11 THEIR UNITS, THEIR WEAPONS AND THEIR VESTS, WHATEVER, AFTER
10:21:15 YOU DECIDE YOUR CONSTITUENTS REQUEST THAT HE REAL-INDICATE
10:21:20 TO OTHER MEANS, BUT WITH 30 MILLION TO GO INTO ANOTHER
10:21:23 PROGRAM SUCH AS HOUSING, HEALTH CARE, RELATIONSHIPS.
10:21:31 I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POINT OF ALL OF THIS
10:21:35 MEANS TO US.
10:21:38 THE MOTION FOR THAT EXTRA TIME FOR THAT PERSON, NOW THAT
10:21:42 THEIR CONTRACTED, YOU KNOW THEY DONATE TO MOST OF YOU'RE
10:21:48 CAMPAIGNS.
10:21:49 YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANYONE.
10:21:50 IT'S TIME TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK FOR, YOU
10:21:55 DON'T WORK FOR MAYOR JANE CASTOR, YOU DON'T WORK FOR TPD AND
10:22:00 WE DON'T WORK FOR ALL OF YOU.
10:22:01 I'M BAFFLED.
10:22:02 I DON'T KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BUT YOU SHOULD BE REJECT
10:22:09 THESE REQUESTS FROM TPD AND PUT THE MONEY INTO SOMETHING
10:22:11 ELSE LIKE YOU HAVE DONE FROM THE BEGINNING.
10:22:15 YOU HAVE ALREADY GIVEN THEM 13 MILLION MORE.
10:22:17 YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO DO THAT FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
10:22:19 WHY ARE YOU GIVING THEM MORE?
10:22:21 IT'S A BUNCH OF LIES AND GAS LIGHTING.
10:22:26 I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE TO HEAR IT.
10:22:28 AND WHEN WE MEET PRIVATELY, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU
10:22:34 ALL SAY HERE.
10:22:35 THE GASLIGHTING IS HIRING.
10:22:37 I THINK WE SHOULD RECORD OUR MEETINGS WITH YOU AND WE SHOULD
10:22:39 HAVE A PUBLIC RECORD AS BECAUSE WHAT YOU ALL SAY UP HERE IS
10:22:44 DIFFERENT.
10:22:44 SO PAT FRANK FOR HER RECORD ON CIVIL RIGHTS AND THEN THE
10:22:52 CIVIL RIGHTS GOING ON, IT'S TERRIBLE.
10:22:54 SHE SAID YOU ARE THE HEARTBEAT OF THE CITY.
10:22:56 IT'S TIME YOU SEE A CARDIOLOGIST.
10:22:59 THANK YOU AND HAVE THE DAY THAT YOU DESERVE.
10:23:03 THANK YOU.
10:23:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:05 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:23:05 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JORDANA
10:23:15 YAMPOLSKY.
10:23:21 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:23:22 >> MY NAME IS JORDANA YAMPOLSKY, REQUEST THE PARTY FOR
10:23:29 LIBERATION, CALLING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AGENDA NUMBER 5 AND 8
10:23:32 WHICH GIVES PROSPECTIVELY 53,000 AND $112,000 TO THE TAMPA
10:23:38 POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR PURCHASING SHIELD AND VESTS AND FOUR
10:23:45 POLICE HYBRID UTILITY VEHICLES.
10:23:47 THIS IS COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THESE FUNDS TO BE
10:23:49 APPROVED BY THE USE OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WHILE SO
10:23:52 MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY'S BASIC NEEDS ARE NOT BEING
10:23:54 MET.
10:23:56 WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SLEEPING OUTSIDE.
10:23:58 NOW THAT HURRICANE SEASON IS OVER, COLD FRONTS ARE HERE, HOW
10:24:01 IS THIS PUBLIC SAFETY?
10:24:02 HOW IS CONTINUING IN PUBLIC NEIGHBORHOODS, PUBLIC SAFETY?
10:24:08 WE NEED MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUNDAL OH INDICATED TO HEALTH
10:24:11 CARE, CHILD CARE, HOUSING, TAMPA JOBS PROGRAM AND A
10:24:14 NONPOLICE INVOLVED MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS RESPONDERS.
10:24:19 THAT MEANS ALTERNATIVE RESPONDERS WHO BE DO NOT WORK WITH,
10:24:22 PARTNER WITH OR CORRESPOND WITH THE POLICE IN ANY WAY.
10:24:25 THE POLICE DO NOT PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:24:27 HOW IS THE MURDER OF DOMINICK PUBLIC SAFETY?
10:24:31 HOW IS THE MURDER OF JOSEPH PUBLIC SAFETY?
10:24:34 HOW IS THE MURDER OF ARTHUR GREEN JUNIOR PUBLIC SAFETY?
10:24:37 JUST THIS MORNING, I WAS CHASED OUT OF THE WAWA BY A POLICE
10:24:43 OFFICER BECAUSE I TOOK A PHOTO OF HIM BEHIND THE SANDWICH
10:24:46 COUNTER WEARING A MASK AROUND HIS CHIN.
10:24:49 HE PUT EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE AND CUSTOMER AT RISK WITH HIS
10:24:52 BEHAVIOR AND THEN HARASSED ME WHEN I STARTED TO MAKE RECORD
10:24:55 ON THIS.
10:24:55 I WAS CHASED OUST OF THE STORE BY AN IGNORANCE AND DANGER
10:24:58 RUN MAN WITH A GUN AND A TASER WHO HAD ALL THE RIGHT TO DO
10:25:02 AND SAY WHATEVER HE WANTED AND EVERY PERSON AROUND HIM.
10:25:04 OHIO IS THIS AN ACCEPTABLE REALITY?
10:25:06 HOW IS THIS PUBLIC SAFETY?
10:25:08 IT'S NOT.
10:25:09 PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THE REALLOCATION OF ANY MORE FUND TO
10:25:12 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:25:14 THANK YOU.
10:25:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:15 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:25:15 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE MATTHEW
10:25:21 YAMPOLSKY.
10:25:21 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
10:25:24 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:25:25 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:25:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES HE CAN.
10:25:29 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:25:30 >> THANK YOU.
10:25:30 COUNCILMEN, I JUST WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU,
10:25:36 BECAUSE OF ALL YOUR HARD WORK, JOSEPH AND MULKEY ARE DEAD.
10:25:44 WATER YOUR DILIGENCE WE WOULDN'T HAVE OVER 160 HOUSELESS ON
10:25:50 OUR STREETS EVERY GIVEN NIGHT BUT THAT'S A COUNTY PROBLEM,
10:25:53 ISN'T IT, SIT ROB?
10:25:55 WITHOUT ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND OUTRIGHT SKILL AND ALLOCATION
10:25:59 AND REALLOCATION OF TAXPAYER MONEY, THE TAMPA POLICE
10:26:02 DEPARTMENT MIGHT NOT -- MIGHT CAN BUY NEW TANKS WHILE
10:26:09 CHILDREN STARVE LESS THAN A MILE FROM CITY HALL.
10:26:12 WITHOUT YOUR HARD WORK THE $174 MILLION TAMPA POLICE
10:26:15 DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO BE USED FOR SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY
10:26:18 HELPS YOUR CONSTITUENTS RATHER THAN HARMS THEM.
10:26:21 WITHOUT YOUR COUNTLESS HOURS OF IGNORING PUBLIC COMMENT OVER
10:26:25 THE LAST SIX MONTHS, AND OUTRIGHT FAILURE TO DO ANY RESEARCH
10:26:31 ON YOUR OWN, THIS CITY COULD HAVE HAD A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS
10:26:37 IN PLACE BY NOW.
10:26:39 NOW THAT THE VOICE MAIL COMMENT OPTION IS COMPLETELY GONE IT
10:26:43 WILL BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT TO IGNORE YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:26:47 SO COUNCILMEN, I REALLY WANT FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
10:26:52 WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
10:26:54 WITHOUT ALL OF YARD HARD WORK AND KOWTOWING TO THE PBA AND
10:26:59 MAYOR CASTOR, TAMPA COULD BE A BETTER PLACE.
10:27:01 SO ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.
10:27:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:27:08 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:27:09 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE S. SMITH. IF
10:27:15 YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:27:17 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:27:18 >> CHENAVIA SMITH: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:27:23 I AM CHE SMITH, AN ORGANIZER WITH THE LABORERS INTERNATIONAL
10:27:29 SOURCE AMERICA.
10:27:30 I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT TO ADOPT AGENDA ITEM 62 CREATING
10:27:34 APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
10:27:36 APPRENTICESHIPS ARE IMPERATIVE AND DIRECT PATHWAY TO A HIGH
10:27:40 QUALITY CAREER ALLOWING FOR RESIDENTS THOSE TRANSITIONING TO
10:27:46 EMPLOYMENT TO BE RETAINED AS A HIGHLY TRAINED WORKFORCE.
10:27:52 THE 3.2 BILLION STRUCTURE INVESTMENT TO THE PROGRAM WILL BE
10:27:57 A TO BE UTILIZED FOR LOCAL IMPACT. WITH THIS ORDINANCE IN
10:28:02 PLACE BY OBTAINING CONSTRUCTION CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIPS,
10:28:06 THIS AND OTHER PROJECTS WILL PROVIDE CAREER OPPORTUNITIES
10:28:09 AND THOUSANDS OF MAN HOURS TO BE INCLUDED IN.
10:28:14 WHEN IMPLEMENT, I AM SO EXCITED THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
10:28:19 CONSIDERING THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TOWARDS
10:28:25 ECONOMIC SECURITY, A PATHWAY FOR MIDDLE CLASS AND CITIZENS
10:28:30 ON THE JOB SO THAT EQUITABLE ACCESS IS OBTAINABLE.
10:28:35 AS ALREADY STATED, I TOO WILL ASK THAT THIS INCLUDES ALL
10:28:40 WORK AND NOT JUST VERTICAL, TO SEIZE EVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR
10:28:43 THE FAMILIES OF TAMPA.
10:28:45 THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE A BRIDGE TO INCENTIVIZE CONSTITUENT
10:28:50 PROSPERITY.
10:28:53 A BETTER TOMORROW AND SUPPORT TODAY.
10:28:56 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF BEING
10:29:00 AN ADVOCATE.
10:29:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:02 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:29:04 >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE RUSSELL MEYER.
10:29:09 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:29:11 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:29:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REVEREND MEYER, ARE YOU ON?
10:29:21 >> YES.
10:29:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:23 THIS IS REVEREND DR. RUSSELL MEYER.
10:29:25 I WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 62.
10:29:32 AS YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN THE PASTOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AT
10:29:36 PARISH OF TAMPA WHICH IS ST. PAUL LUTHERAN CHURCH THAT
10:29:40 REPRESENTS A SERVICE AREA OF EAST TAMPA AND NORTH TAMPA.
10:29:45 THE URBAN CORE OF TAMPA WHERE THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME
10:29:51 WITHIN THAT AREA IS WELL UNDER $30,000 A YEAR.
10:29:56 AND AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM IS THE PATHWAY FOR SOCIABILITY
10:30:03 IN THE URBAN CORE OF FLORIDA -- OF TAMPA.
10:30:07 AND THIS PATHWAY FOR SOCIAL MOBILITY HAS TO BE CONSTRUCTED,
10:30:12 WE HAVE TO BUILD IT.
10:30:14 RECENT STUDIES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS SHOWS THAT THE
10:30:17 CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS AT THE BOTTOM OF
10:30:22 THE LIST OF SOCIAL MOBILITY AMONG THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE
10:30:27 COUNTRY.
10:30:28 I APPRECIATE PEOPLE FROM THE MARKETPLACE COMING AND SAYING,
10:30:32 OH, WE ARE WORKING ON THIS, AND WE ARE DOING WELL, WE DON'T
10:30:36 NEED ANY OUTSIDE INTERVENTION.
10:30:39 BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WITHOUT OUT SIDE
10:30:43 INTERVENTION, THE STATUS QUO IS GOING TO REMAIN IN PLACE,
10:30:46 AND THE STATUS QUO IS THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE URBAN CORE
10:30:50 OF TAMPA DON'T BENEFIT AS THEY SHOULD BASED UPON THEIR
10:31:01 PORTION OF THE POPULATION.
10:31:02 IF THE MARKETPLACE CAN SOLVE SOCIAL MOBILITY ON ITS OWN WE
10:31:08 WOULDN'T BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PILE.
10:31:09 SO WE NEED A VERY ROBUST APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE, ONE THAT
10:31:16 MAKES CERTAIN THAT PEOPLE IN THE PARISH I SERVE HAVE A REAL
10:31:23 OPPORTUNITY FOR GAINING THOSE APPRENTICES.
10:31:28 APPRENTICESHIP IS THEIR FUTURE FOR HAVING A SUSTAINABLE LIFE
10:31:34 THAT ACTUALLY GIVES THEM SOMETHING BETTER THAN THE LOCKED-IN
10:31:39 SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE NOW.
10:31:41 TOO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE, IN MY PARISH, SIMPLY NEVER GIVE MORE
10:31:48 THAN A HANDFUL OUT SIDE WHEREOF THEY LIVE IN THE
10:31:53 NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:31:54 IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY IN SCHOOL AND IN WORK HAVE BEEN CUT OFF
10:31:58 AT THE KNEES THROUGH A LONG LEGACY OF GASLIGHTING AND BEING
10:32:03 LOOKED OVER AND BEING LOOKED DOWN ON.
10:32:06 AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN SAY,
10:32:10 WE REALLY DO LOVE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, AND WE ARE GOING TO
10:32:14 MAKE CERTAIN THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT FOR YEARS
10:32:17 ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED.
10:32:20 WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE FUTURE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF
10:32:24 THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR URBAN CORE LONGER THAN MOST
10:32:30 PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IN THE SUBURBS WHERE I LIVE OUT IN TAMPA
10:32:34 PALMS, WHERE THE AVERAGE TURNOVER IS ABOUT TWO YEARS WHERE
10:32:40 PEOPLE COME AND GO.
10:32:41 SO PLEASE, PLEASE, A VERY ROBUST APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM THAT
10:32:49 MAKES CERTAIN PEOPLE IN MY PARISH HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:32:52 RISE UP AND HAVE A GREAT LIVING.
10:32:55 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND FOR LISTENING AND
10:32:59 SHOUTOUT TO COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR REALLY PUSHING HARD ON THIS
10:33:05 AND HOPE THE REST OF YOU WILL JOIN HIM IN DOING SO.
10:33:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:09 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:33:10 >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE CARROLL ANN
10:33:12 BENNETT.
10:33:14 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
10:33:16 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:33:17 >> BEFORE YOU START MY CLOCK, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU
10:33:26 COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR HARD WORK TRYING TO DO WHAT IS BEST
10:33:30 FOR THE CITY.
10:33:31 STUDY SHOW THAT PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO EXPRESS
10:33:35 COMPLAINTS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD SAYING I THINK
10:33:39 YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.
10:33:41 I LOVE THAT YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS.
10:33:44 THAT LETS US KNOW YOU ARE TRULY LISTENING TO US SO THANK YOU
10:33:47 FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE ROCKING
10:33:52 THAT GO-TEE.
10:33:56 I AM SPEAKING ON ITEM 6 AND 7.
10:33:58 YOU CAN START MY TIME NOW.
10:33:59 MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:34:02 I TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY THE CITY IS ALLOWING
10:34:06 UNREGULATED -- BECAUSE THEY WANT THE TAX MONEY.
10:34:08 I QUICKLY SET THEM STRAIGHT.
10:34:10 I TELL THEM WE HAVE A GREAT CITY COUNCIL AND YOU GUYS TRULY
10:34:13 TRY TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY, BUT YOU ARE STYMIED IN
10:34:17 YOUR EFFORTS TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY GUIDELINES THAT DO NOT
10:34:19 GIVE THE CITY TO DIRECT POWER TO GROWTH IN A WAY FROM THE
10:34:24 AREAS WHERE IT'S HARMFUL.
10:34:26 I TELL THEM THE ONLY PEOPLE MOTIVATED BY GREED ARE THE
10:34:30 BUILDERS WHO DO NOT WANT ZONING.
10:34:32 HIS ONLY CONCERN IS FOR PROFITS AND HOE HAVE AN ENORMOUS
10:34:36 SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.
10:34:37 I AM A NATIVE FLORIDIAN, AND IF THERE'S ONE THING WE NATIVE
10:34:41 FLORIDIANS HATE, IT'S TRANSPLANTS TELLING US HOW THEY DO
10:34:45 THINGS UP NORTH.
10:34:46 WELL, MY HUSBAND WAS FROM NEW YORK, AND ONE THING NEW
10:34:49 YORKERS DO KNOW HOW TO DO RIGHT IS ZONING.
10:34:53 UP THERE, THE ZONING IS LAW.
10:34:55 MY FATHER-IN-LAW OWNED A CONSTRUCTION PROPERTY, BOUGHT A
10:35:00 9.27-ACRE PARCEL WAS THAT WHATS ZONED FOR HALF ACRE LOTS.
10:35:03 EVEN THOUGH HE WAS JUST A HAIR SHY OF BEING ABLE TO BUILD
10:35:06 TWO HOUSES HE KNEW WHEN HE BOUGHT IT THAT HE WOULD NOT BE
10:35:09 ABLE TO, AND BECAUSE OF THAT THE PROPERTY AND HE BUILT
10:35:13 ACCORDINGLY AND NOBODY WASTED VALUABLE TIME AND MONEY TRYING
10:35:15 TO CIRCUMVENT THE ZONING.
10:35:17 THERE'S A CERTAINTY AND PREDICTABILITY AND THAT SAVES
10:35:21 EVERYONE MONEY.
10:35:21 BUT HERE WE CHASE OUR TAILS AND WASTE EVERYONE'S VALUABLE
10:35:25 TIME AND RESOURCES ON CIRCUMVENTING THE CAREFULLY AND
10:35:29 PROFESSIONALLY PLANNED ZONING.
10:35:30 AND THE AMOUNT OF CITY COUNCIL'S TIME THAT IS STRUCK DOWN
10:35:34 THAT WASTE IS ESCALATING.
10:35:37 SOME BUILDERS HERE ARE RESISTANT TO REZONINGS. THEY DO NOT
10:35:39 KNOW HOW TO FUNCTION WITHOUT IT.
10:35:41 THEY FEEL ENTITLED TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT WHEREVER THEY
10:35:44 WANT IT.
10:35:45 AND WHEN THEY DON'T GET WHAT THEY WANT, WHO HAVE BEEN DENIED
10:35:51 THEIR HIT LIKE AN ADDICT.
10:35:54 IT'S TIME FOR A LITTLE REHAB AND IT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:35:57 THAT NEEDS REHABILITATING.
10:35:58 THE ONLY WAY TO SLOW THE AVALANCHE OF REZONING REQUESTS IS
10:36:02 IF THEY BECOME THE EXCEPTION INSTEAD OF THE RULE.
10:36:04 THE MORE REZONINGS THAT ARE APPROVED, THE MORE REQUESTS YOU
10:36:08 WILL GET.
10:36:08 IF REZONINGS ARE HARD TO GET, LESS PEOPLE WILL ASK FOR THEM
10:36:11 AND THE CITY'S RESOURCES WON'T BE SQUANDERED.
10:36:14 PLEASE AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAKE IT HARDER TO GET
10:36:17 REZONINGS.
10:36:18 PLEASE DO WHAT MANY OTHER FLORIDA LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE
10:36:21 DONE AND ESTABLISH UNITS PER ACRE FOR THE COASTAL HIGH
10:36:27 HAZARD AREA.
10:36:28 PLEASE STAFF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR MULTI-REZONINGS IN
10:36:32 CHHA AND PLEASE EXPAND THAT TO INCLUDE EVACUATION ZONE A AND
10:36:36 B.
10:36:37 THIS IS VITAL TO OUR SAFETY IN AN EMERGENCY.
10:36:40 TAMPA IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS EVACUATION TIME.
10:36:44 IN 2015, OUR EVACUATION TIME WAS DOUBLE WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED
10:36:48 TO BE, AND IT HAS PROBABLY GOTTEN WORSE IN THE LAST FIVE
10:36:51 YEARS.
10:36:53 FINALLY, PLEASE EXPAND THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR
10:36:57 MULTIFAMILY REZONINGS TO 1320 FEET.
10:37:00 THANK YOU.
10:37:01 AND I MEAN IT.
10:37:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:37:04 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:37:05 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JEAN
10:37:09 STROHMEYER.
10:37:09 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE
10:37:11 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:37:12 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
10:37:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:37:21 GO AHEAD.
10:37:21 >> BEFORE YOU START MY CLOCK I WANT TO ECHO WHAT CARROLL ANN
10:37:28 SAID AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE BEEN
10:37:30 DOING.
10:37:30 YOU HAVE LISTENED TO US ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
10:37:33 I FEEL WEEK WE ARE FAMILY NOW.
10:37:36 SO WITH THAT SAID, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER AND I LIVE
10:37:43 INTERBAY SITE OF GANDY HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 67 ABOUT
10:37:47 GROWTH MANAGEMENT SOUTH OF GANDY.
10:37:49 PARTICULARLY WE ARE ASKING FOR A SUSPENSION OR MORATORIUM OF
10:37:53 REZONINGS OR REBUILDING OF ANY FURTHER MULTIPLE FAMILY
10:37:56 COMPLEXES ESPECIALLY IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD EVACUATION
10:37:59 ZONES A AND B.
10:38:01 A SUSPENSION IS NOT NEEDED.
10:38:03 IT IS NEEDED UNTIL THE REQUIRED STUDIES FOR EVACUATION TIMES
10:38:06 ARE COMPLETE.
10:38:07 WE HAVE TO AMEND THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAKE IT
10:38:10 HARDER FOR REZONING REQUESTS TO BE APPROVED.
10:38:13 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A ZONING SIMPLE CHANGE AT A
10:38:15 PERSON'S RESIDENTS, BUT ABOUT ZONINGS THAT CHANGE THE
10:38:19 IDENTITY OF OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:38:20 THOSE REZONINGS HAVE NOT ONLY CHANGED THE IDENTITY OF OUR
10:38:25 NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED OUR QUALITY OF
10:38:28 LIFE.
10:38:30 I AM ALSO HERE TO ASK FOR REZONING REQUESTS FROM 250 FEET.
10:38:36 THAT MEASUREMENT IS FINE FOR ONE PERSON TO MAKE A CHANGE TO
10:38:40 THEIR HOME BUT IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT WHEN REZONING REQUESTS
10:38:42 ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE IDENTITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN.
10:38:46 THIS MEASUREMENT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED SO MAYBE A QUARTER
10:38:54 MILE OR EVEN HALF A MILE IS NOT ENOUGH.
10:38:58 WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THESE REZONINGS PROCESSES BECAUSE
10:39:01 THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED AND NOT GRANTED STANDING BECAUSE OF
10:39:04 THE 250 FOOT RULE.
10:39:06 YET THE REZONINGS OF THREE LARGE COMPLEXES HAVE NEGATIVELY
10:39:11 IMPACTED THE LIVES OF ALL OF US.
10:39:16 NOW, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THE ANGRY MAN THAT CAME AND
10:39:20 SPOKE EARLIER AND SAYING OUR CITY IS RACIST.
10:39:24 IT'S NOT RACIST.
10:39:25 OUR CITY IS NOT.
10:39:26 OUR COUNTY IS NOT.
10:39:26 THE STATE IS NOT.
10:39:27 AND OUR NATION IS NOT RACIST.
10:39:29 WE ARE NOT THAT KIND OF PEOPLE.
10:39:31 ESPECIALLY HERE SOUTH OF GANDY.
10:39:33 YOU ARE WELCOME HOME PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AT
10:39:38 MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
10:39:39 ON ITEM NUMBER 19, I ASKED ABOUT THOSE -- I WOULD LIKE FROM
10:39:46 LOCAL COMPANIES, AS FAR AS 23 TO 26 REGARDING UPGRADES OF
10:39:50 TECHNOLOGY, THE WOMAN MENTIONED FIVE FEET.
10:39:52 I AM NOT SURE IF THAT WE ARE READY FOR THAT.
10:39:54 I JUST DON'T KNOW.
10:39:56 27, WE HAVE RENTING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE RENTING
10:40:04 WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN PROPERTIES THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE
10:40:07 UTILIZING INSTEAD OF SPENDING 17,000 PLUS A MONTH.
10:40:10 NUMBER 29, THE HEROES PROGRAM WE MENTIONED HEROES.
10:40:14 I THINK THERE'S SO MANY HEROES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY
10:40:16 NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT PROGRAM.
10:40:18 IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE LADIES THAT TESTIFIED AND ALL THESE
10:40:21 OTHER PEOPLE THAT TESTIFIED CONTINUOUSLY OUR HEROES THAT
10:40:25 COME BEFORE YOU.
10:40:26 NUMBER 36, OUR ART PROJECTS, I AM NOT AN ART PERSON BUT I
10:40:30 ECHO THE ONE WOMAN WHO SAID IT SHOULD NOT BE DIVISIVE AND TO
10:40:36 BUILD UP OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE ARE ABOUT AND OUR
10:40:39 IDENTITY AS A COMMUNITY.
10:40:41 AND 39 AND 40, LOWER PENINSULA, I THOUGHT THAT PROJECT WAS
10:40:46 FULLY FUND SEWED I AM NOT SURE WHY THERE'S A CHANGE IN
10:40:50 FUNDING.
10:40:50 AND NUMBER 55, MR. SHELBY ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY WE WANT TO
10:40:54 GET AWAY FROM THE MESSAGES BEING LEFT ON THE SYSTEM.
10:40:58 I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN AVENUE FOR THAT BUT I AM JUST NOT
10:41:02 SURE WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE.
10:41:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:04 >> AND I APPRECIATE YOU.
10:41:07 THANK YOU.
10:41:07 AND HAVE A GREAT DAY AND GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS OUR
10:41:10 CITY AND COUNTY OUR STATE.
10:41:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:15 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:41:15 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE ERRDAISHA.
10:41:27 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:41:29 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:41:30 >> HI.
10:41:34 MY NAME IS ERRDAISHA FLOYD, BORN HERE IN TAMPA, AND BEFORE I
10:41:39 START, ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MOTION TO HAVE A
10:41:41 MINUTE OF MY TIME, OR NOT START MY TIME YET AND THEN ADDRESS
10:41:47 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:41:52 NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
10:41:53 I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
10:41:54 AND ALSO REMAINED CITY COUNCIL THAT WE ARE A NATION OF --
10:42:02 POLICING TO COMMUNITY NEED, ESPECIALLY IN BLACK AND POOR
10:42:05 COMMUNITIES OF TAMPA, AND TO DISAPPOINT AND NEGLECT THOSE
10:42:13 EXPLOITED POPULATIONS.
10:42:14 SO I WONDER WHAT YOU ALL HAVE LEARNED SINCE MY LAST PUBLIC
10:42:19 COMMENT.
10:42:19 HAVE YOU TAKEN THE TIME TO EXPAND YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF
10:42:21 POLICING?
10:42:22 I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T SO LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A
10:42:25 REFRESHER.
10:42:26 THE POLICE ONLY EXIST TO BRING -- TO MAINTAIN A WHITE
10:42:34 SUPREMIST.
10:42:36 THEY DON'T KEEP YOU SAFE.
10:42:37 AND THERE IS A SAYING WE SHOULD GIVE THE POLICE WHATEVER
10:42:44 THEY NEED, WHICH I HAVE TO LAUGH AT.
10:42:46 WE JUST CAME UP WITH A SUMMER WHERE IT WAS REPORTED THAT THE
10:42:50 USE OF FORCE BY TPD INCREASED BY 223%.
10:42:55 223%.
10:42:58 THE USE OF FORCE BY TPD HAS INCREASED.
10:43:01 LAST SUMMER WHERE THEY BRUTALIZED PROTESTORS IN THE STREET
10:43:05 ALL SUMMER, TEAR GASSING THEM AND SHOOTING THEM WITH RUBBER
10:43:08 BULLETS.
10:43:09 THEY JUST NOW, NOT EVEN TWO MONTHS AGO, SHOT AND KILLED
10:43:13 DOMINICK IN COLD BLOOD, IN COLD BLOOD, THEY SHOT AND KILLED
10:43:18 DOMINICK MULKEY.
10:43:21 THEY WOULD BE IN PRISON RIGHT NOW.
10:43:24 THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE POLICE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE
10:43:29 VIOLENCE ON BLACK COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE THEIR VIOLENCE IS
10:43:35 NORMALIZED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
10:43:37 BASED ON THEIR OWN DATA, THEY HAVE NEGLECTED THEMSELVES,
10:43:41 THEY ARE BECOMING MORE VIOLENT BY 223%, AND ALL THE CITY OF
10:43:46 TAMPA HAS DONE IS GIVE THEM $13 MILLION MORE DOLLARS AND NOW
10:43:51 WANT TO GIVE THEM MORE.
10:43:55 WE DO NOT WANT THE POLICE TO BE THIS BETWEEN ORDER AND
10:44:00 CHAOS, TO BE A FORCE THAT CANNOT BE QUESTIONED.
10:44:04 AND THAT'S WHAT THE POLICE IS.
10:44:05 THAT IS HOW POLICE MANIFEST THEMSELVES IN THIS COUNTRY.
10:44:08 SO THE QUESTION TO USE OF FORCE WITHOUT QUESTION, THE
10:44:12 QUESTION IS INCREASINGLY ON BLACK AND POOR COMMUNITIES, AND
10:44:18 NOT EVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, NOT EVERY HAVE TO ADDRESS THE
10:44:21 ACTUAL HARM THEY CAUSE.
10:44:25 THE POLICE LIVE TO EXIST AND THAT'S THAT.
10:44:30 AND YOU CAN DAYDREAM ABOUT WHAT THE POLICE ACTUALLY DO BUT
10:44:33 PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY ARE BRUTALIZED.
10:44:38 ONCE AGAIN, TPD SHOT AND KILLED MULKEY IN COLD BLOOD, AND
10:44:43 WHAT THE CITY HAS SAID ABOUT THAT, OTHER THAN JANE CASTOR
10:44:46 SAYING IT'S PROTECT THE COMMUNITY THAT DAY.
10:44:54 YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A WORKSHOP AND I SUGGEST YOU GET THERE,
10:45:00 AND HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY, AND ACTUALLY EXPAND
10:45:04 YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT POLICING IS.
10:45:07 YOU CAN FOLLOW ON INSTAGRAM TO FIND THE LINK FOR THAT
10:45:11 WORKSHOP.
10:45:12 I URGE YOU NOT TO GIVE THE TPD ANY MORE MONEY, ESPECIALLY
10:45:17 NOT 5,000 MORE DOLLARS INFORM VESTS AND SHIELDS, OR OVER
10:45:25 $100,000 FOR TPD AUTHORIZING POLICE UNIFORMS.
10:45:31 YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE YOU ARE SERVING THE PUBLIC BY
10:45:36 BEING ON CITY COUNCIL.
10:45:37 YOU HAVE SPENT MOST OF YOUR TIME HERE KISSING THE -- OF
10:45:43 DEVELOPERS FOR YOUR OWN INTEREST.
10:45:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:47 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR COMMENT?
10:45:49 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, WE HAD DONNA DAVIS ON THE LINE BUT SHE
10:45:54 IS NO LONGER ON.
10:45:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:58 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY
10:46:00 ELSE.
10:46:01 NO?
10:46:03 I RECEIVED A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YESTERDAY,
10:46:07 CAME ACROSS MY DESK, IT GOT TIED UP, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT
10:46:13 REQUESTING THAT ITEMS 15 AND 21 BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA
10:46:16 AND THAT STAFF BE AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION.
10:46:19 20 AND 21 ARE ALL RELATED TO 44.
10:46:24 SO THAT I THINK IS SAID AND DONE.
10:46:29 YOU WANT TO ASK WHEN WE GET THE STAFF REPORTS, CORRECT?
10:46:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:46:34 15 CHATTED WITH STAFF AND I GOT ANSWERS TO THAT.
10:46:39 THE ONLY THING I WANTED ON -- I DON'T KNOW, IF 20 AND -- NO,
10:46:44 21, AND I DON'T KNOW IF 22 IS STILL IN EXISTENCE.
10:46:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A DUPLICATE OF 21 SO WE HAD TO
10:46:53 REMOVE THAT.
10:46:54 22.
10:46:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT 21 AND THE COMPANION ONE, TO PULL
10:46:59 THOSE FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
10:47:01 WHEN YOU GET TO FINANCE.
10:47:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:47:06 ALL RIGHT.
10:47:07 AS WE BEGIN WITH THE AGENDA, IS THERE ANY PREFERENCE ON
10:47:11 LUNCH, TO BREAK FROM LUNCH FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:47:14 I KNOW THAT SOME QUESTIONS WERE RAISED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT
10:47:17 REGARDING THE APPRENTICESHIP ISSUE, AND DISCUSSING WITH SOME
10:47:22 MEMBERS THAT HAD COME HERE.
10:47:25 WE'LL GET THROUGH AS MUCH OF THE AGENDA AS WE CAN AND THEN
10:47:28 BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:00.
10:47:29 AND THEN RECONVENE AT 1:30, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION TO
10:47:34 THAT, SO THAT WOULD GIVE TIME FOR LUNCH.
10:47:36 AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO ABC AND THE UNIONS
10:47:40 AND WHATNOT FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:42 WOULD THAT WORK?
10:47:44 ALL RIGHT.
10:47:45 ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?
10:47:46 COUNCILMAN VIERA?
10:47:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:47:49 IN A OBJECTION TO THAT AT ALL.
10:47:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:51 SO WE GO ON TO THE AGENDA.
10:47:53 ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:47:55 >>MORRIS MASSEY: DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, IN CONNECTION WITH
10:48:02 ITEM NUMBER 4, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
10:48:05 CONSIDERATION.
10:48:06 IT'S THE SAME ORDINANCE I PRESENTED TO YOU ALL IN DRAFT FORM
10:48:10 AT YOUR LAST MEETING IT REQUIRES THAT PERSONS RECEIVING
10:48:18 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT THEY ARE
10:48:20 REQUIRED TO FILE A REPORT TO DO SO WITH A SWORN AFFIDAVIT
10:48:24 FROM AN AUTHORIZED OFFICER OR MEMBER AFFIRM ACCURACY OF THE
10:48:28 INFORMATION PROVIDED THIS N THAT REPORT.
10:48:34 OTHERWISE IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS I PRESENTED AT YOUR LAST
10:48:37 MEETING.
10:48:37 I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:48:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:48:41 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MORRIS AND
10:48:46 CAROLE POST AND ROB ROSNER FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
10:48:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:51 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:48:54 >>BILL CARLSON: AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO HELPED WITH IT.
10:48:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:48:57 ALL RIGHT.
10:48:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM NUMBER 4?
10:49:01 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
10:49:03 MARTY, I NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING?
10:49:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TITLE, YES, AS WRITTEN.
10:49:07 >>BILL CARLSON: THE TITLE?
10:49:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: READ THE WHOLE THING.
10:49:13 >> MOVE FILE E-2020-8-CH 2, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:49:19 FIRST READING K A THANKERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA PER
10:49:22 TAPING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, AMENDING CHAPTER
10:49:25 2 ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE BY ADDING ARTICLE
10:49:29 X ENTITLED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, DIVISION 1
10:49:33 GENERALLY, SECTION 2-800 DEFINITIONS SECTION 2-801 SWORN
10:49:38 AFFIDAVIT AND SECTION 2-802 EXCEPTIONS REQUIRING RECIPIENTS
10:49:42 OF CITY OF TAMPA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES TO EXECUTE
10:49:46 AND SUBMIT A SWORN AFFIDAVIT AFFIRM THE ACCURACY OF ANY
10:49:49 REQUIRED REPORTS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA RESERVING SECTION
10:49:53 2-803, THROUGH 2-825, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL OR
10:50:00 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
10:50:03 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:03 >> SECOND.
10:50:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER
10:50:07 MIRANDA.
10:50:07 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:50:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:50:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:50:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:50:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:50:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:50:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:50:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:50:16 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:18 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 14, 2021
10:50:22 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:50:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:50:25 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.
10:50:28 I HAD GOTTEN A MESSAGE THAT MRS. DON A DAVIS --
10:50:32 >>> YES, DON A DAVIS WAS REGISTERED THE WHOLE TIME, BUT HAD
10:50:36 TO DISCONNECT WHATEVER.
10:50:38 SHE'S ON.
10:50:40 WE'LL ALLOW HER TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:50:42 IF DONNA DAVIS IS ON THE LINE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
10:50:45 >> MY NAME IS DONNA DAVIS.
10:50:52 I WANTED TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 62.
10:50:55 I LIVE AT 2314 EAST 10th AVENUE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:51:02 A ROBUST ECONOMY IS A SOUND MIDDLE CLASS AND ADEQUATELY
10:51:09 SKILLED AND A CAPABLE WORKFORCE WHO EARN A LIVING WAGE.
10:51:14 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE PROSPERED FROM CITY AND COUNTY
10:51:18 CONTRACTS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DEMONSTRATE QUANTIFIABLE
10:51:21 PROGRESS AND THE CREATION OF DEVELOPMENT OF A DIVERSE
10:51:25 SKILLED WORKFORCE OF NEXT GENERATION WORKERS.
10:51:29 THAT REACHES INTO MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS AND OTHER GROUPS
10:51:32 THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDERRENTED IN THE BUILDING
10:51:34 TRADE.
10:51:38 THIS MANDATE IS REQUIRED.
10:51:40 COUNCIL HAS MUCH ROOM TO IMPROVE ITS EQUITY INDEX, AND
10:51:43 FLORIDA HAS MUCH DISTANCE TO RECOVER IN SHORING UP THE
10:51:47 DIVERSE POPULATION OF NEXT GENERATION WORKERS.
10:51:49 AS SUCH, I URGE CITY COUNCIL TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER ITS
10:51:54 PATHWAY TO SOCIAL MOBILITY, SOCIOECONOMIC MOBILITY FOR TAMPA
10:51:59 FAMILIES.
10:52:00 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COMMENT.
10:52:01 I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:52:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:06 ALL RIGHT.
10:52:07 WE GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WITH COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
10:52:11 ITEMS 5-10.
10:52:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS 5-10.
10:52:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:52:18 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:19 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:52:20 ALL RIGHT.
10:52:21 ANY OPPOSED?
10:52:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST ON ITEM 8, IN REGARD TO THE
10:52:29 PURCHASE OF THREE HYBRID UTILITY VEHICLES THAT WE JUST
10:52:33 PASSED, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO THE PURCHASING
10:52:35 DEPARTMENT, TO MR. BENNETT, TO PD TPD AND EVERYBODY ELSE
10:52:39 INVOLVED THAT WE ARE DOING HYBRID UTILITY VEHICLES.
10:52:42 SO WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE POLICE OFFICERS IN HYBRID CARS, AND
10:52:48 EVENTUALLY PROBABLY IN FULLY ELECTRIC CARS.
10:52:51 SO CONGRATULATIONS TO STAFF AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING
10:52:54 MORE OF THOSE.
10:52:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:57 YES, SIR?
10:52:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:52:59 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THANKS FOR ARTICULATING THAT.
10:53:02 I THINK IT WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE WORD HYBRID,
10:53:06 AND NOW IT IS CONFIRMED THAT THESE ARE ENERGY SAVING
10:53:11 VEHICLES, NOT ANY TYPE OF VEHICLES THAT ARE USED FOR ANY
10:53:15 TYPE OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF FORCE.
10:53:17 THESE WILL LOWER OUR COSTS NOT ONLY FOR CARBON BUT ALSO FOR
10:53:22 FOSSIL FUEL.
10:53:23 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:53:24 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:53:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, ON THAT NOTE, JUST WANT TO
10:53:30 POINT OUT, I KNOW THE FOLKS TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF POLICE
10:53:33 DOLLARS, BUT JUST TO POINT OUT A LOT OF THESE DOLLARS I LOOK
10:53:37 AT AND 35 AND 10 ARE GRANTS SO A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN'T JUST
10:53:46 TAKE A BACK SEAT TO FREE MOPE TO HELP THE CITY ASSOCIATION A
10:53:52 LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE GRANTS AND NOT JUST GENERAL
10:53:56 FUND DOLLARS.
10:53:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:54:00 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:54:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY ONE THING.
10:54:03 AS AN OWNER OF A HYBRID, THERE'S A WAY OF DRIVING THE HYBRID
10:54:07 THAT YOU GET THE SCENT OF THE MILEAGE THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED
10:54:10 TO GET.
10:54:11 HOWEVER, IF YOU HIT IT, FLOOR IT, YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE GAS
10:54:16 GAUGE GO UP AND DOWN WHEN IT TURNS BLUE IN THE CAR I DRIVE
10:54:19 TELLS UP THAT YOU ARE GETTING THE MAXIMUM.
10:54:21 BUT IF YOU DRIVE IT LIKE A NORMAL CAR YOU ARE GOING TO GET A
10:54:24 LITTLE BETTER MILEAGE THAN A NORMAL CAR BUT IF YOU DRIVE IT
10:54:27 LIKE A REAL HYBRID THEN YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE EXTENT OF
10:54:31 THE MILEAGE THAT'S RECOMMENDED.
10:54:32 SO WHOEVER DRIVES THESE CARS HAS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DRIVE
10:54:36 THE CAR.
10:54:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND YOU ARE RIGHT.
10:54:37 MY FATHER DRIVES A HYUNDAI HYBRID AND WITH TEN DOLLARS HE
10:54:40 CAN GET TO MIAMI AND HALFWAY BACK, IF YOU DRIVE IT, IF YOU
10:54:44 ARE NOT FLOORING IT AND UTILIZING IT AT FULL POWER.
10:54:48 BUT IT CERTAINLY SAVES A LOT OF MONEY.
10:54:50 IF YOU LOOK AT THE ANNUAL FUEL COST AND CONSUMPTION, MY
10:54:53 FATHER IS BACKWARDS IN A LOT OF THINGS BUT FORWARD THINKING,
10:54:56 AND WHEN IT COMES TO TECHNOLOGY AND SEEING HOW HIS VEHICLE
10:55:00 IS AND USING THE HYBRID, AND WHEN I SAW THIS, I THOUGHT OF
10:55:04 HIM AND I THOUGHT HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN BE SAVING.
10:55:07 SO I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE MOVING THERE.
10:55:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WON'T TELL YOUR FATHER THAT YOU SAID
10:55:14 THAT.
10:55:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE'S PROBABLY WATCHING AS MY PARENTS
10:55:16 DO.
10:55:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:17 ITEM NUMBER 11 WHICH IS PARKS AND REC AND CULTURAL
10:55:20 COMMITTEE.
10:55:21 COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
10:55:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE NUMBER 11.
10:55:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:55:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:55:31 ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:32 ALL RIGHT.
10:55:32 PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
10:55:33 COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER.
10:55:34 YOU SAID YOUR QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED FOR ITEM NUMBER 15.
10:55:37 SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 12 THROUGH 19.
10:55:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON BEHALF OF PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, I
10:55:46 WILL MOVE ITEMS 12 THROUGH 19.
10:55:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
10:55:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:55:53 ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:55 ALL RIGHT.
10:55:55 COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:55:58 I BELIEVE 21 WHEREAS WAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
10:56:02 AND ITEM NUMBER 22 WAS TO BE REMOVED.
10:56:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
10:56:09 ALSO, YOU CAN HOLD ITEM NUMBER 20 TO BE HEARD WITH 44 AND 21
10:56:13 TO BE HEARD WITH 46 AND 47 AND AGAIN AS YOU SAID, 22 IS A
10:56:17 DUPLICATE WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA, PLEASE.
10:56:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE ITEMS 23 THROUGH 26.
10:56:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER
10:56:32 CITRO.
10:56:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:56:33 ANY OPPOSED?
10:56:35 OKAY.
10:56:36 NEXT UP IS COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON WITH BUILDING, ZONING AND
10:56:38 PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, 27 THROUGH 35.
10:56:41 >>BILL CARLSON: 27 THROUGH 35.
10:56:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
10:56:49 CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
10:56:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:56:52 ANY OPPOSED?
10:56:52 NEXT UP IS COUNCILMEMBER VIERA WITH TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
10:56:55 ITEMS 36 THROUGH 46.
10:56:59 >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE IT.
10:57:00 I HEREBY MOVING ITEMS 36 THROUGH 42.
10:57:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
10:57:08 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:57:10 OPPOSED?
10:57:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CITRO WITH A MOTION TO
10:57:21 OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:57:22 THAT OPENS 43 THROUGH 47.
10:57:28 THESE ARE SECOND READINGS.
10:57:29 ITEM NUMBER 43.
10:57:30 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON 43?
10:57:38 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK TO SPEAK ON ITEM 43?
10:57:42 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
10:57:44 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
10:57:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:57:49 ANY OPPOSED?
10:57:50 COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
10:57:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NUMBER 43, E 2020-8.
10:57:57 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
10:57:59 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MAKING REVISIONS
10:58:01 TOTAL CITY OF MUCH THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 12 HUMAN
10:58:04 RIGHTS IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THE INTERVAL AND MANNER OF CITY
10:58:09 TRAINING RELATED TO HARASSMENT ANTI-DISCRIMINATION IMPLICIT
10:58:13 BIAS AND CULTURAL COMPETENCY AMENDING SECTION 12-4 CREATING
10:58:17 A NEW SECTION 12-6 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
10:58:22 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
10:58:26 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:58:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
10:58:28 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:58:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:58:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:58:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:58:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:58:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:58:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:58:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:58:37 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:58:38 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD JUST AGAIN THANK ANGEL D'ANGELO
10:58:46 AND RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AND TO OTHERS WHO WORKED HARD.
10:58:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:58:53 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 44, THE AGENDA SAYS SEE ITEM NUMBER 20.
10:58:59 MR. SHELBY, WAS 21 RELATED TO THIS AS WELL?
10:59:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
10:59:03 21 IS RELATED TO --
10:59:07 >>> 46 AND 47.
10:59:08 SO 20 GOES WITH ITEM NUMBER 44.
10:59:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU COULD TAKE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
10:59:17 ITEM NUMBER 44 AND YOU COULD JUST MOVE THE RESOLUTION ON
10:59:20 ITEM 20.
10:59:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON ITEM
10:59:23 NUMBER 44?
10:59:25 ANYBODY IN THE KIOSK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL FOR ITEM
10:59:28 NUMBER 44?
10:59:30 HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:59:32 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:59:34 DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
10:59:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:59:38 ANY OPPOSED?
10:59:39 ALL RIGHT.
10:59:39 COUNCILMEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:59:43 >> FILE E-2020-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:59:48 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
10:59:51 TAMPA, FLORIDA GRANTING AN EXEMPTION FROM CERTAIN AD VALOREM
10:59:54 TAXATION FOR CELADON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, LLC, A NEW
11:00:01 BUSINESS TO BE LOCATED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA PROVIDING FOR
11:00:04 SHORT TITLE, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS OF TERMS, PROVIDING
11:00:07 FOR A FINDING THAT ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS APPLICABLE TO THE
11:00:13 GRANTING OF SUCH EXEMPTION HAVE BEEN MET, PROVIDING FOR THE
11:00:17 AMOUNT OF REVENUE AVAILABLE FOR AD VALOREM TAX SOURCES FOR
11:00:20 THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, PROVIDING FOR THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE
11:00:24 LOST BY VIRTUE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AD VALOREM TAX
11:00:28 EXEMPTIONS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT PROVIDING FOR THE ESTIMATED
11:00:32 REVENUE LOSS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE EXEMPTION OF CELADON
11:00:37 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION LLC PROVIDING FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME
11:00:39 FOR WHICH THE EXEMPTION WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT AND THE
11:00:43 EXPIRATION DATE OF THE EXEMPTION PROVIDING REQUIREMENTS
11:00:47 ASSOCIATED WITH THE GRANTING AND CONTINUATION OF SUCH
11:00:52 EXEMPTION, PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY -- EXCUSE ME, I KNOW
11:01:00 WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY THERE -- PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
11:01:03 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN
11:01:06 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:01:07 EXCUSE ME.
11:01:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:01:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
11:01:12 DO WE HAVE -- MADAM CLERK, BEFORE I TAKE THE VOTE DO WE HAVE
11:01:16 ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS UP TO
11:01:19 47?
11:01:20 >> NO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED FOR ANY OF THE
11:01:23 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:01:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMEMBER
11:01:26 CITRO.
11:01:27 I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:01:29 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:01:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:01:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:01:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:01:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:01:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:01:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:01:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:01:37 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:01:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CITRO, SINCE YOU READ
11:01:41 THAT, WOULD YOU MIND MOVING ITEM NUMBER 20?
11:01:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS IN MY COMMITTEE.
11:01:48 I DON'T MIND AT ALL.
11:01:49 I WAS WAITING FOR 20 WAS THAT UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, THE
11:01:53 AVERAGE SALARY IS GOING TO BE 55,675 FOR INDIVIDUALS, AND
11:01:58 HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE EMPLOYEES NOT INCLUDING THE MANAGEMENT.
11:02:01 I DON'T WANT IT WEIGHTED ON THE MANAGEMENT SIDE BEING PART
11:02:04 OF THE EMPLOYEES I.ADOPT KNOW EXACTLY OHIO IT WAS
11:02:08 STRUCTURED.
11:02:08 THAT'S THE ONLY THING I AM SAYING.
11:02:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:02:10 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
11:02:13 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:02:14 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
11:02:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:02:18 OPPOSED?
11:02:20 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:02:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID THIS LAST TIME BUT IN CASE ANYBODY
11:02:25 IS LISTENING FOR THE FIRST TIME, I AM USUALLY AGAINST ANY
11:02:28 KIND OF SUBSIDY LIKE THIS, BUT THIS ONE IS ENVIRONMENTALLY
11:02:33 FRIENDLY INDUSTRY, THEY HELP US RECYCLE, AND ALSO VERY
11:02:37 IMPORTANT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HELP SUPPORT OUR CONTAINER
11:02:42 INDUSTRY BY PROVIDING REALLY IMPORTANT BACK FILL TO THE
11:02:45 CONTINUOUS -- CONTAINERS BRINGING IN THINGS FROM OTHER
11:02:49 COUNTRIES BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO PUT ON THE SHIPS TONE
11:02:52 GO BACK AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
11:02:55 THIS WILL POTENTIALLY CREATE LOTS OF OTHER JOBS OUTSIDE THE
11:02:59 IMMEDIATE JOB IN SUPPORTING OUR PORT INDUSTRY AND
11:03:02 HIGH-PAYING JOBS.
11:03:03 THANK YOU.
11:03:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:06 ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:03:08 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 45?
11:03:13 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC FOR ITEM NUMBER 45 OR ANYBODY IN THE
11:03:17 KIOSK FOR ITEM NUMBER 45?
11:03:21 HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:03:24 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:03:25 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:03:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:03:28 ANY OPPOSED?
11:03:31 ALL RIGHT.
11:03:31 HEARING NONE, COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER.
11:03:35 YOU WERE ABSENT BUT WERE YOU ABLE TO REVIEW ITEM NUMBER 45?
11:03:40 IF NOT I CAN MOVE ON DOWN.
11:03:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.
11:03:45 I WILL BE GLAD TO READ IT.
11:03:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:03:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALTHOUGH I AM CURIOUS, MR. CARLSON, YOU
11:03:55 HAD VOTED AGAINST IT.
11:04:00 IS THAT CORRECT?
11:04:01 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:04:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SINCE I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT --
11:04:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T GIVE A REASON.
11:04:08 I JUST VOTED AGAINST IT.
11:04:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:04:14 NEED TO ARTICULATE ONE I KNOW?
11:04:16 ALL RIGHT.
11:04:16 I WILL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE REGARDING ITEM 2020-8
11:04:23 CHAPTER 14 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:04:26 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA PERTAINING TO THE
11:04:28 HOURS OF SALE AND SERVICE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON AND OFF
11:04:32 PREMISES AMENDING CHAPTER 14 OFFENSES, ARTICLE 2,
11:04:36 MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES, DIVISION 10, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES,
11:04:39 AND SECTION 14-150.1-A, HOURS OF SALE FOR CONSUMPTION ON AND
11:04:45 OFF PREMISES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE REVISING THE HOURS OF
11:04:48 SALE AND SERVICE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON SUNDAYS PROVIDING
11:04:51 FOR UNIFORM HOURS 7 DAYS A WEEK PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF
11:04:54 ALL OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR
11:04:57 SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:04:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
11:05:01 DINGFELDER.
11:05:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
11:05:03 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:05:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:05:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:05:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:05:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:05:08 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:05:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:05:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:05:12 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 46 AND ITEM
11:05:25 21.
11:05:27 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO BE SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 46?
11:05:31 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
11:05:34 ITEM NUMBER 46?
11:05:34
11:05:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
11:05:40 I HAD TO ASK.
11:05:42 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:05:44 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:05:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:05:45 ANY OPPOSED?
11:05:47 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 46?
11:05:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: E2020-8 CH 19.
11:05:56 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
11:05:59 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE
11:06:01 AUTHORITY OF THE DIRECTOR OF CODE ENFORCEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD
11:06:04 ENHANCEMENT TO ADMINISTER AND ENFORCE CERTAIN CODES AND
11:06:08 ORDINANCES; AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES,
11:06:11 CHAPTER 19, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND STRUCTURAL STANDARDS,
11:06:13 SECTION 19-4, DEPARTMENT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT DUTIES AND
11:06:16 SCOPE OF AUTHORITY OF THE DIRECTOR; ENABLING THE DIRECTOR TO
11:06:19 ADMINISTER AND ENFORCE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ORDINANCES
11:06:21 ENFORCEABLE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA INCLUDING SECTION
11:06:23 36-373 OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CODE PERTAINING TO HUMAN
11:06:27 TRAFFICKING, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES
11:06:29 IN CONFLICT THEREWITH.
11:06:32 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:06:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:06:36 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:06:36 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
11:06:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:06:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:06:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:06:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:06:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:06:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:06:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:06:45 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:06:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE'LL GO TO ITEM
11:06:49 NUMBER 47 AND THEN BACK TO 21.
11:06:51 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 47?
11:06:55 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
11:06:58 NUMBER 47?
11:06:59 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
11:07:03 ALL RIGHT.
11:07:04 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:07:06 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:07:07 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
11:07:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:07:09 AYE.
11:07:11 ANY OPPOSED?
11:07:12 ALL RIGHT.
11:07:13 HEARING NONE, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING
11:07:17 47?
11:07:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
11:07:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:07:19 I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:07:21 READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING PORTIONS OF
11:07:24 THE CITY OF TAMPA AS AN EVENT ZONE ALSO KNOWN AS A CLEAN
11:07:27 ZONE IN ORDER TO REGULATE ACTIVITIES BETWEEN 12:01 A.M.,
11:07:31 JANUARY 28, 2021 UNTIL MIDNIGHT ON FEBRUARY 9, 2021 IN
11:07:38 PREPARATION FOR, IN CONNECTION WITH AND FOR DEMOBILIZATION
11:07:42 OF HOSTING EVENTS FOR THE 2021 NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
11:07:46 SUPER BOWL LV; PROVIDING FOR REGULATIONS IN AREAS DESIGNATED
11:07:49 AS EVENT ZONES FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES,
11:07:51 TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, TENTS, SIGNAGE, PROHIBITING
11:07:54 CERTAIN COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, SUBJECT
11:07:56 TO CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS; PROVIDING FOR FIRST AMENDMENT
11:07:59 EXPRESSION AREAS; PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES; PROVIDING FOR
11:08:02 DEFINITIONS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN
11:08:06 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:08:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:08:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:08:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:08:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
11:08:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:08:14 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:08:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:08:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:08:18 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER AND CARLSON
11:08:21 VOTING NO.
11:08:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:08:23 NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, IT WAS YOUR COMMITTEE.
11:08:29 WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 21?
11:08:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE I SAY YES TO 21, THESE EVENTS AND
11:08:34 THESE THINGS ARE DONE WAY BEFORE IT COMES TO US, NOW, LIKE
11:08:38 THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN DONE BETWEEN AN ENTITY OF THE
11:08:40 CITY AND AN ENTITY IN THIS CASE I WOULD IMAGINE NATIONAL
11:08:42 FOOTBALL LEAGUE AND THE SUPER BOWL SO WHEN IT COMES TO US,
11:08:47 IT'S ALREADY BEEN NOT APPROVED BUT DISCUSSED, COMING HERE
11:08:50 FOR APPROVAL.
11:08:50 MAYBE IN THE FUTURE YEARS, THIS CITY AND OTHER CITIES CAN
11:08:53 UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU WANT PART OF THIS, YES OR NAY, YOU
11:08:57 OUGHT TO DO IT BEFORE THE AGREEMENTS ARE MADE BETWEEN THE
11:09:00 TWO ENTITIES.
11:09:00 BUT I MOVE 21.
11:09:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:09:04 MIRANDA.
11:09:04 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
11:09:08 ANY OPPOSED?
11:09:11 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER NO.
11:09:12 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
11:09:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ASK MR. MIRANDA TO REMOVE ITEM 22
11:09:19 FROM THE AGENDA AS BEING A DUPLICATE.
11:09:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE FROM COUNCIL
11:09:25 MEMBER MIRANDA, SECONDED BY GUDES.
11:09:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:09:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:31 CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN ITEM 48 THROUGH 55.
11:09:35 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:09:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:09:37 MIRANDA.
11:09:38 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:09:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:09:41 ALL RIGHT.
11:09:42 THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE NOW ALL OPEN.
11:09:43 WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 48.
11:09:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS ABSENT FOR SOME OF THESE.
11:09:52 I HAVE REVIEWED ALL THE PERTINENT MATERIALS AND I'M READY TO
11:09:55 VOTE, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
11:09:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DO WE NEED TO BE SWORN?
11:10:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU ARE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
11:10:06 HAND AND BE SWORN.
11:10:08 IF WE CAN GET EVERYBODY SWORN IN AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU'RE
11:10:11 GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 48 THROUGH 55, JUST SO WE CAN KEEP
11:10:14 IT MOVING.
11:10:15 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:10:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: I DO.
11:10:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF I COULD ASK THE CLERK A QUESTION.
11:10:30 ON THE AGENDA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE REST
11:10:33 OF THE SECOND READINGS, IT SAYS PAREN, VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:10:37 IS THAT INSINUATING IT WAS UNANIMOUS EXCEPT THAT VIERA WAS
11:10:41 ABSENT?
11:10:41 I DON'T MEAN TO POINT OUT LUIS.
11:10:47 I JUST NEED THE CLARIFICATION.
11:10:48 >>THE CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:10:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OTHER THAN VIERA, IT WAS 6-0.
11:10:52 THANK YOU.
11:10:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN INQUIRE OF THE
11:10:57 CLERK, ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE REGISTERED FOR ITEMS 48 THROUGH
11:11:02 55?
11:11:02 >>THE CLERK: I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGISTRATION FOR THESE
11:11:05 ITEMS.
11:11:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:11:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:11:09 WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 48.
11:11:11 GO AHEAD.
11:11:12 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD MORNING.
11:11:13 RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:11:15 ITEM 48 IS REZ 20-45.
11:11:17 IT'S BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:11:19 THIS WAS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, REVISED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN
11:11:23 SUBMITTED TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR CERTIFICATION AND
11:11:25 TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK.
11:11:26 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:11:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT
11:11:31 THIS TIME?
11:11:31 HEARING NONE, NEXT.
11:11:34 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 48?
11:11:49 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:11:51 STEVE MICHELINI.
11:11:52 I WAS A REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS PROJECT, AND I'M HERE TO
11:11:54 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:11:57 GENTLEMAN?
11:11:58 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
11:12:01 TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 48?
11:12:03 48?
11:12:03 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK FOR ITEM NUMBER 48?
11:12:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:12:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
11:12:13 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:12:14 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
11:12:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:12:18 ANY OPPOSED?
11:12:18 ALL RIGHT.
11:12:19 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 48.
11:12:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT AT ALL, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:12:24 ITEM 48, FILE REZ20-45.
11:12:28 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:12:30 ADOPTION.
11:12:31 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:12:34 3154 AND 3200 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:12:38 FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
11:12:41 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL,
11:12:45 SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
11:12:48 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:12:52 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:12:55 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:12:55 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
11:12:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:12:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:12:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:13:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:13:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:13:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [INAUDIBLE]
11:13:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:13:06 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITRO BEING
11:13:09 ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:13:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:11 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 49.
11:13:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:13:15 RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:13:18 FILE REZ 20-31.
11:13:20 THIS IS AGAIN BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:13:23 THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SO, AGAIN, REVISED SITE PLANS
11:13:28 SUBMITTED TO CITY CLERK WITH CORRECTIONS FROM FIRST READING.
11:13:31 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:13:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:13:34 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 49 OR A SPEAKER
11:13:38 FOR ITEM NUMBER 49?
11:13:40 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
11:13:46 ITEM NUMBER 49 OR ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK FOR ITEM NUMBER 49?
11:13:51 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:13:53 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:13:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:57 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:57 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 49?
11:14:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH PLEASURE, SIR.
11:14:02 FILE NUMBER REZ-20-31, SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
11:14:07 FOR SECOND READING, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
11:14:11 GENERAL VICINITY OF 9306 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
11:14:15 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
11:14:18 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL,
11:14:22 SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE
11:14:25 AND BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE); PROVIDING FOR AN
11:14:28 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:14:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:14:31 MIRANDA.
11:14:32 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:14:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:14:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:14:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:14:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:14:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:14:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:14:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:14:41 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:14:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:44 ALL RIGHT.
11:14:45 ITEM NUMBER 50.
11:14:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 50.
11:14:49 RYAN MANASSE.
11:14:52 FILE REZ 20-01 PRESENTED BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND
11:14:56 ADOPTION.
11:14:57 THIS IS AS WELL A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SO THE REVISED SITE
11:14:59 PLANS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR
11:15:02 CERTIFICATION AND THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK.
11:15:04 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:15:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
11:15:08 HEARING NONE, MR. CRAMER.
11:15:13 >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, JAKE CRAMER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET
11:15:17 HERE FOR THE PETITIONER.
11:15:18 WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY.
11:15:19 HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:15:21 GENTLEMAN?
11:15:22 HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 50?
11:15:31 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
11:15:32 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:15:34 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:15:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:37 ALL RIGHT.
11:15:38 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
11:15:40 50.
11:15:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO
11:15:44 ITEM 50.
11:15:44 I SUPPORTED THE COMPROMISE, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO
11:15:47 SUPPORT IT, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION ONE OTHER THING.
11:15:51 ON OCCASION IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT PDs -- WE SHOULDN'T
11:15:56 ALLOW PDs ON SMALL PROJECTS, LIKE A SINGLE LOT OR A DOUBLE
11:16:02 LOT.
11:16:03 SOMETIMES I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT DOES FEEL AND
11:16:07 SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE SPOT ZONING, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT
11:16:11 CONCERNING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL.
11:16:13 BUT THEN THE FLIP SIDE IS, IN ALLOWING A PD, FOR EXAMPLE,
11:16:17 LIKE THIS ONE, IT ALLOWS US TO PLACE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS TO
11:16:22 PROTECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:16:25 CONCERNS.
11:16:26 SO IT'S SORT OF A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
11:16:28 AT THIS TIME, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER ALTERNATIVE THAN
11:16:33 CONTINUING TO ALLOW PDs AND SPECIFICALLY THIS PD, BECAUSE
11:16:36 IN THIS CASE, WE AVOIDED A LAWSUIT.
11:16:40 WE REACHED A COMPROMISE.
11:16:41 I THINK MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SATISFIED WITH AND THE
11:16:45 DEVELOPER SEEMS TO BE HAPPY WITH.
11:16:46 SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD
11:16:51 ON THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
11:16:53 THANK YOU.
11:16:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:16:55 ALL RIGHT.
11:16:57 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:16:58 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:16:59 I'D LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 20-01, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
11:17:04 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:17:05 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:17:07 111 SOUTH GUNLOCK AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
11:17:11 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:17:14 CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD
11:17:17 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED);
11:17:21 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:17:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:17:24 MIRANDA.
11:17:25 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:17:25 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
11:17:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:17:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:17:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:17:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:17:30 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:17:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:17:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:17:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:17:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:38 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 51.
11:17:41 >>RYAN MANASSE: 51. FILE REZ 20-53.
11:17:48 THIS IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:17:50 THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
11:17:51 REVISED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE ZONING
11:17:54 ADMINISTRATOR FOR CERTIFICATION AND THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN
11:17:56 SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK.
11:17:57 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:17:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:18:00 GENTLEMAN?
11:18:01 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
11:18:04 MR. MICHELINI, YES, SIR?
11:18:06 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:18:07 I WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS PETITION AS WELL, AND I'M
11:18:09 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:11 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:18:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:18:14 GENTLEMAN?
11:18:15 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK HERE
11:18:18 IN THE CHAMBERS OR AT THE KIOSK FOR ITEM NUMBER 51?
11:18:22 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:18:24 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:18:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:18:26 ANY OPPOSED?
11:18:28 ALL RIGHT.
11:18:29 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM
11:18:32 NUMBER 51?
11:18:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GLADLY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:18:35 IN REGARD TO FILE REZ 20-53, I MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE
11:18:39 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:18:41 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:18:43 413 SOUTH MELVILLE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
11:18:48 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
11:18:51 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD
11:18:54 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED;
11:18:57 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:18:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:19:00 GUDES.
11:19:01 ROLL-CALL VOTE?
11:19:01 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
11:19:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:19:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:19:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:19:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:19:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:19:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:19:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:19:09 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:19:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:13 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:19:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEMS 52 THROUGH 55.
11:19:17 I READ THE DOCUMENTS AND I'M PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:19:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA?
11:19:20 HAD.
11:19:20 >>LUIS VIERA: SIMILARLY, YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
11:19:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:19:23 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:23 ITEM NUMBER 52.
11:19:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:19:27 ITEM NUMBER 52 IS FILE REZ 20-58.
11:19:31 THIS IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:19:33 THIS IS ANOTHER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE WERE REVISIONS
11:19:36 MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:19:37 THE SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK AND
11:19:40 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:19:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:19:43 HEARING NONE, MR. MICHELINI, IS THIS YOURS AS WELL?
11:19:48 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:19:48 STEVE MICHELINI.
11:19:50 I WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS.
11:19:51 AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:19:53 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:19:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:55 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:19:58 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE IN THE CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
11:20:00 OR AT THE KIOSK FOR ITEM NUMBER 52?
11:20:02 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:20:07 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:20:08 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:20:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:20:12 ALL RIGHT.
11:20:12 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER OR GUDES?
11:20:17 COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, ITEM NUMBER 52.
11:20:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ 20-58, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:20:23 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:20:25 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:20:27 3408 WEST WALLCRAFT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
11:20:31 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
11:20:33 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
11:20:36 TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
11:20:38 DETACHED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:20:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:20:42 GUDES.
11:20:43 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:20:45 ROLL-CALL VOTE?
11:20:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:20:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:20:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:20:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:20:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:20:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:20:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:20:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:20:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:55 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 53.
11:20:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:21:01 ITEM 53 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-75.
11:21:05 THIS WAS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THEREFORE THERE IS NO SITE
11:21:07 PLAN.
11:21:08 IT WAS FROM RM-24 TO RM-18.
11:21:12 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:21:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:21:14 ALL RIGHT.
11:21:16 MR. MICHELINI?
11:21:17 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:21:17 STEVE MICHELINI.
11:21:18 I WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
11:21:22 AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:21:26 CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
11:21:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:21:29 GENTLEMAN?
11:21:30 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC, IN THE CHAMBERS, AT THE
11:21:33 KIOSK THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 53?
11:21:36 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:21:37 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
11:21:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:21:40 ALL RIGHT.
11:21:41 ANY OPPOSED?
11:21:43 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 53?
11:21:45 >>LUIS VIERA: I DO NOT MIND.
11:21:47 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:21:48 I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:21:50 READING AND ADOPTION.
11:21:51 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:21:53 203 DANUBE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
11:21:58 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:22:00 CLASSIFICATION RM-24 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO RM-18
11:22:05 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:22:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:22:10 ROLL-CALL VOTE?
11:22:11 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
11:22:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:22:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:22:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:22:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:22:15 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:22:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:22:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES CHARACTER CLERK THE MOTION CARRIED
11:22:20 UNANIMOUSLY.
11:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:22 ITEM NUMBER 54.
11:22:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM 54 IS FILE REZ 20-77.
11:22:29 THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING AS WELL.
11:22:32 THEY ARE REQUESTING RS 60 TO RS 50, THEREFORE THERE IS NO
11:22:36 SITE PLAN.
11:22:37 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:22:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:22:39 GENTLEMAN?
11:22:40 MR. MICHELINI, IS THIS YOURS?
11:22:45 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
11:22:46 I WAS ALSO THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS ONE.
11:22:48 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO
11:22:53 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
11:22:55 >> BUSINESS IS GOOD.
11:22:55 >>STEVE MICHELINI: MATTER OF TIMING, SIR.
11:22:58 >> I'M JOKING.
11:22:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S THE MICHELINI AGENDA.
11:23:01 ALL RIGHT.
11:23:01 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC, IN THE CHAMBER OR AT THE
11:23:05 KIOSK THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 54?
11:23:09 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:23:12 A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:23:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:15 ALL RIGHT.
11:23:15 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
11:23:18 54?
11:23:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:23:20 ITEM 54, FILE NUMBER REZ 20-77, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
11:23:24 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:23:26 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:23:29 6223 SOUTH MAIN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
11:23:34 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
11:23:36 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY)
11:23:39 TO RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY); PROVIDING AN
11:23:43 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:23:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:23:46 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
11:23:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:23:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:23:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:23:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:23:52 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:23:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:23:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:23:55 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:23:58 >>STEVE MICHELINI: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A
11:24:00 SHOUT-OUT TO THE CITY STAFF, PARTICULARLY DURING THESE
11:24:03 CHALLENGING TIMES AND THEM BEING SHORT STAFFED OVER AT LAND
11:24:06 DEVELOPMENT.
11:24:07 THEY HAVE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB.
11:24:10 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF HEARINGS THAT GOT ALL
11:24:12 BACKED UP INTO ONE HEARING.
11:24:14 SO I'D LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN THESE
11:24:17 REGARDS.
11:24:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CITY OF TAMPA ONLY HIRES THE BEST.
11:24:21 UNPARALLELED SERVICE.
11:24:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:22 ITEM NUMBER 55.
11:24:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:24:28 ITEM 55, FILE NUMBER REZ 20-78.
11:24:31 THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD, SO THERE WAS A REVISED
11:24:34 SITE PLAN SUBMITTED AND CERTIFIED BY THE ZONING
11:24:36 ADMINISTRATOR.
11:24:37 THOSE SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK, AND
11:24:40 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:24:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:24:43 GENTLEMAN?
11:24:43 MR. PETERIKA.
11:24:49 >> RICKY PETERIKA, 308 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
11:24:51 I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING THIS CASE AGAIN ON SECOND READING.
11:24:54 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:24:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:24:57 GENTLEMAN?
11:24:58 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC, IN THE CHAMBERS OR AT THE
11:25:01 KIOSK THAT WISHES TO SPEAK NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:25:03 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:25:05 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:25:07 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:25:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:25:09 ANY OPPOSED?
11:25:11 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 55?
11:25:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-78, ORDINANCE BEING
11:25:18 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
11:25:21 REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 308 EAST
11:25:24 SEVENTH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
11:25:28 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:25:31 CLASSIFICATION PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
11:25:34 ASSEMBLY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, OFFICE,
11:25:36 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE OF
11:25:40 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, OFFICE,
11:25:42 BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:25:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:25:48 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:25:49 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
11:25:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:25:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:25:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:25:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:25:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:25:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:25:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:25:57 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:26:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:26:01 I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, IT'S 11:25 A.M. AND WE'RE AT STAFF
11:26:07 REPORTS.
11:26:08 A MIRACLE.
11:26:09 WE GO TO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE WHICH I BELIEVE OCEA WYNN AND
11:26:14 JEAN DUNCAN TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW KEY HIRES AND WE ALSO HAVE
11:26:18 OUR CHIEF OF STAFF, JOHN BENNETT.
11:26:24 >>JOHN BENNETT: NICE TO SAY GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND
11:26:27 PUBLIC.
11:26:27 ACTUALLY, I HAD A REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE FOR COVID AS WELL
11:26:31 FROM COUNCIL.
11:26:32 I CAN GIVE THAT REAL QUICK BEFORE WE DO THE INTRODUCTIONS.
11:26:36 IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, WE CAN CONTINUE THIS AT
11:26:40 ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE.
11:26:41 IS THAT PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:26:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OPPOSITION?
11:26:46 NO.
11:26:46 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:26:47 >>JOHN BENNETT: OKAY.
11:26:48 REAL QUICK, EVERY MORNING WE PUT OUT THE EMERGENCY
11:26:52 OPERATIONS REPORT THROUGH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
11:26:56 AND, OF COURSE, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE.
11:26:58 WE LOOK AT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NUMBERS ON A 24-HOUR BASIS.
11:27:03 IF THERE IS GOOD NEWS WITH THE INCREASING AROUND THE NATION,
11:27:07 WE ARE BELOW THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE, WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE
11:27:11 COUNTY.
11:27:12 WE'RE ALSO BELOW THE CONTIGUOUS AND COMMUTER COUNTIES AROUND
11:27:15 US, AND WE ARE BELOW THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE OF THE URBANIZED
11:27:18 COUNTIES.
11:27:19 THOSE ARE THREE METRICS THAT I HAD ASKED FOR AS WE STARTED
11:27:23 TO ROLL INTO OUR SPECIAL EVENT SEASON.
11:27:25 WE'RE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, BUT WE ARE LOWER THAN THAT.
11:27:28 AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE CONTIGUOUS STATES, ALABAMA AND
11:27:30 GEORGIA, ALABAMA IS SITTING AT A 35.1% POSITIVITY RATE, AND
11:27:35 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS AT 7.6% POSITIVITY RATE.
11:27:38 THE SAME THING WITH GEORGIA AT 10.8 POSITIVITY RATE AND, OF
11:27:42 COURSE, OUR COUNTY IS WELL BELOW THAT AT 7.6.
11:27:47 WE HAVE TALKED TO USF PUBLIC HEALTH AND, OF COURSE, WE MET
11:27:52 WITH NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE COUNTY HEALTH DOCTOR, DR. HOLT,
11:27:56 AND WE ARE MOVING INTO WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED AS A SECOND
11:28:01 PEAK SOMEWHERE BETWEEN LATE JANUARY AND MAYBE MID-FEBRUARY.
11:28:05 THE PEAK ON THE FRONT END SEEMS TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO
11:28:08 MANAGE, WHICH IS WHY EVERYBODY IS BEING ASKED TO CONTINUE
11:28:11 THOSE PROTECTIVE MEASURES THAT WE'VE BEEN SHARING BOTH IN
11:28:15 THE PUBLIC AND IN OUR WORKFORCE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT
11:28:19 PEAK.
11:28:20 AND WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CURTAIL THE BACK END
11:28:23 THROUGH GOOD PROTECTIVE MEASURES AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL OF
11:28:25 THE VACCINE, WHICH IS A PLAN THAT'S UNDERWAY, AND I'LL GET
11:28:29 TO THAT IN A SECOND.
11:28:30 WHEN WE LOOK INTERNALLY AT OUR NUMBERS, WE'VE HAD 340
11:28:34 POSITIVE CASES WITHIN THE CITY WORKFORCE OF 4,667 EMPLOYEES.
11:28:38 AND WE'VE HAD ALMOST 2900, AS A MATTER OF FACT, 2,899
11:28:43 QUARANTINES ASSOCIATED WITH US GIVING ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO
11:28:47 THE COMMUNITY AND BEING IN PROXIMITY OF A SOURCE POSITIVE.
11:28:50 WE SADLY HAD ONE FATALITY OUT OF WASTEWATER, MR. GARY
11:28:54 HORWOOD, WHO PASSED AWAY ON 10/16 OF THIS YEAR DUE TO
11:28:59 COMPLICATIONS OF COVID.
11:28:59 AND WE HONORED HIS FAMILY RECENTLY AT OUR INTERNAL TOWN HALL
11:29:03 MEETING FOR HIS SERVICES AND HIS UNTIMELY LOSS OF LIFE.
11:29:08 SO THAT PUTS OUR WORKFORCE AT ABOUT 62% QUARANTINED OVER THE
11:29:14 COVID PERIOD OR THE PANDEMIC.
11:29:17 AS I MENTIONED, OUR TEAM, BOTH KELLY AUSTIN AND HR AND
11:29:22 TIFFANY KLEIN AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS ARE WORKING WITH
11:29:25 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON A VACCINE PLAN FOR
11:29:29 OUR EMPLOYEES AS IT RELATES TO THE VACCINE PLAN FOR THE
11:29:32 PUBLIC.
11:29:32 AS YOU KNOW, THE EPG MEETING IS WITHIN THE COUNTY BOARD SO
11:29:37 YOU'D HAVE TO TUNE INTO THAT TO GET THOSE PARTICULAR
11:29:40 UPDATES.
11:29:44 WE ARE CONTINUING THE CAMPAIGN, THE MESSAGE ON WEARING THE
11:29:48 MASKS, OF COURSE, INDOORS AND IN THE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS
11:29:50 OUTDOORS, ESPECIALLY THOSE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDORS, MAINTAINING
11:29:54 THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.
11:29:55 WE HAVE ADDED AN ADDENDUM TO ANY OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS FOR A
11:29:58 COVID PLAN THAT IS REVIEWED BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND THE
11:30:02 MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
11:30:04 AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ANY KIND OF SANITIZING, BOTH
11:30:07 INSIDE THE WORKPLACE, IN OUR ROLLING STOCK, AS WELL AS OUR
11:30:10 PUBLIC EVENTS.
11:30:11 SO WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND HER STAFF TO
11:30:15 BRING YOU A COVID UPDATE ON THE REGULAR COUNCIL SESSIONS
11:30:19 DURING THIS TIME, IF THAT IS AMENABLE TO COUNCIL.
11:30:23 SECONDLY, BEFORE WE GET TO THE QUICK INTRODUCTIONS, I JUST
11:30:26 WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY --
11:30:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD WE SPEAK ABOUT THE
11:30:30 COVID THING FOR A SECOND BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
11:30:32 THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
11:30:38 GREAT JOB ON STAYING UP ON THINGS.
11:30:40 WE KNOW YOU STAY UP ON THINGS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
11:30:43 THAT WE INFORM THE COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN, AND THIS MIGHT
11:30:46 BE A GOOD VEHICLE TO DO IT.
11:30:49 I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT SOMETIMES
11:30:51 YOU'LL SEE US WITHOUT MASKS, AND IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT
11:30:55 CONFUSING WHEN YOU SEE US IN THIS ROOM.
11:30:59 BUT I JUST WANTED TO TELL PEOPLE I JUST WAS LOOKING AT THIS
11:31:02 ROOM AND IT APPEARS TO ME, AND MS. GARVEY CAN HELP, BUT IT
11:31:05 APPEARS TO ME THIS ROOM IS ABOUT 200, MAYBE 150 FEET WIDE BY
11:31:10 ABOUT AT LEAST 75 FEET DEEP, SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:31:14 OF 15 TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
11:31:17 AND WE ALSO HAVE 30-FOOT CEILINGS.
11:31:19 ONE OF THE REASONS WE MOVED FROM CITY HALL TO BE OVER HERE
11:31:22 TO BE SAFER.
11:31:23 AND ALSO, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS IS ABOUT 12
11:31:30 FEET.
11:31:30 SO WE'RE KEEPING SOCIALLY DISTANCED.
11:31:33 A LOT OF TIMES WE TRY AND PUT OUR MASK BACK ON, IT'S A
11:31:36 LITTLE BIT HARD TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE WITH THE MASK.
11:31:39 ANYWAY, I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WE'RE NOT BEING HYPOCRITICAL.
11:31:42 WHEN WE LEAVE HERE, WHEN WE COME AND GO FROM THE BUILDING,
11:31:45 WE HAVE OUR MASK ON.
11:31:46 THAT'S A RULE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
11:31:47 WE ALL FOLLOW IT.
11:31:50 EVERYBODY BUILDING WE GO INTO, NO MATTER CITY HALL,
11:31:54 RESTAURANT, WHATEVER, WE ALL WEAR OUR MASKS AND KEEP
11:31:59 SOCIALLY DISTANCED. WE'RE NOT HYPOCRITES.
11:32:03 WE'RE WEARING MASKS AND KEEPING DISTANCE AND WANT TO URGE
11:32:06 THE PUBLIC TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.
11:32:07 I THINK THAT'S THE MESSAGE MR. BENNETT WAS SAYING.
11:32:09 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:32:11 ONE FINAL NOTE, WE TALKED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS OF
11:32:14 OUR CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES THROUGH MS. BONNIE WISE'S OFFICE AND
11:32:17 WE ALSO TALK TO OUR MAJOR CITIES, BOTH CLEARWATER AND
11:32:21 ST. PETE, AND WE WORK ON A JOINT INFORMATION CENTER THROUGH
11:32:24 OUR MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS SECTION TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC
11:32:26 IS AWARE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR REGION AS SAFE AS
11:32:30 POSSIBLE.
11:32:31 IT LOOKS LIKE EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS ARE CLIMBING, WE'RE
11:32:33 STILL WINNING IN THE AGGREGATE.
11:32:36 SECONDLY, REAL QUICK, JUST A REMINDER THAT EVERY YEAR FOR
11:32:39 THE PAST I THINK NOW 34 YEARS STARTED UNDER SANDY FREEDMAN'S
11:32:45 ADMINISTRATION AS MAYOR, THE HOLIDAY FOOD BASKET IS GOING
11:32:49 OUT.
11:32:49 I SAY THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GREAT DESPERATION IN OUR
11:32:53 FOOD INSECURITY AREAS THAT A LOT OF WORK FROM THE POLICE
11:32:57 DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, OCEA WYNN'S PORTFOLIO AND
11:33:01 CAROLE POST'S PORTFOLIO THAT CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE A
11:33:05 TREMENDOUS JOB IN PUTTING TOGETHER BASKETS AND TOYS FOR THE
11:33:08 HOLIDAY SEASON.
11:33:09 THE LAST DAY OF COLLECTION IS THIS FRIDAY, AND THEY ARE
11:33:11 SUPPOSED TO BE DISTRIBUTED NEXT THURSDAY ON DECEMBER 10th.
11:33:15 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. OCEA WYNN TO MAKE AN
11:33:18 INTRODUCTION FOLLOWED BY MS. JEAN DUNCAN TO MAKE HER
11:33:22 INTRODUCTION OF NEW STAFF MEMBERS.
11:33:23 OCEA?
11:33:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:27 >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING,
11:33:30 CHIEF.
11:33:30 I AM SUPER EXCITED THIS MORNING TO PRESENT TO YOU THE NEWEST
11:33:34 MEMBER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS TEAM, MS. BREN
11:33:39 McKENZIE.
11:33:40 I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN POST UP THE SLIDE WITH HER PHOTO.
11:33:46 BREN HAS JOINED THE TEAM WITH OVER 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN
11:33:57 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
11:33:59 SHE HAS A BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS IN
11:34:04 PLANNING AND HAS WORKED FOR MAJOR, MAJOR CITIES SUCH AS
11:34:12 CHICAGO, BOSTON, AND BALTIMORE.
11:34:13 IN HER CAPACITY AS THE LEAD OF A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND
11:34:19 SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, SHE WILL LEVERAGE
11:34:24 HER BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO
11:34:29 COLLABORATE WITH BUSINESSES, STAKEHOLDERS AND RESIDENTS AS
11:34:34 SHE OVERSEES THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE.
11:34:38 AGAIN, A NUMBER OF OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS.
11:34:41 SO I WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU BREN McKENZIE.
11:34:47 IF YOU ARE ON AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW BRIEF SHORT WORDS.
11:34:52 >> THANK YOU.
11:34:53 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:34:54 IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU.
11:34:56 I AM TRULY HONORED.
11:34:58 THIS IS TRULY GOING TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
11:35:02 THE LIFT OF BRINGING A STRONG, RESILIENT WORKFORCE IS
11:35:05 SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO NEED TO WORK
11:35:08 COLLABORATIVELY TO MAKE HAPPEN, WORKING WITH OUR BUSINESSES,
11:35:12 OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND RESIDENTS.
11:35:13 AND I AM SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
11:35:16 THANK YOU.
11:35:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:19 >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:35:24 >>JOHN BENNETT: A LITTLE POSTSCRIPT ON THE INTRODUCTION,
11:35:27 ESPECIALLY FOR COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:35:28 I KNOW THERE WAS A MOTION MADE RIGHT BEFORE THE BUDGET
11:35:30 HEARINGS ABOUT A CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER AND I HAD MET WITH
11:35:35 OCEA AND WE PUT KIND OF A TASK FORCE TOGETHER AND A
11:35:39 COMMITMENT TO BRING DATA BACK TO COUNCIL.
11:35:42 AND WHEN WE SELECTED THE TALENT WITH BREN McKENZIE, SHE'S
11:35:46 GOING TO BE HELPING MS. OCEA WYNN COORDINATE SOME OF THAT
11:35:50 DATA AND THE INTERNAL METRICS FOR THE ORGANIZATION OF
11:35:53 HIRING, TRAINING, AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:35:55 SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HER JOINING THE CITY AND
11:35:59 WORKING WITH US.
11:36:00 SO WITH THAT, I'LL GIVE IT OVER TO MS. JEAN DUNCAN.
11:36:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION BUT YOU
11:36:05 POPPED RIGHT UP AND GAVE ME THE ANSWER TO IT.
11:36:07 GLAD WE GOT SOME HELP OVER THERE WITH OCEA.
11:36:11 HOPE TO MEET THIS YOUNG LADY SOON AND VISIT SOME OF OUR
11:36:14 COMMUNITIES THAT ARE CHALLENGED AND HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF
11:36:17 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:36:18 AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOU FOR THE HIRE.
11:36:19 I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO WORK WELL WITH OCEA AND JANELLE AND
11:36:24 THE GROUP.
11:36:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
11:36:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:36:26 NEXT IS MS. JEAN DUNCAN.
11:36:29 >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:36:31 I'M SO PLEASED THIS MORNING TO BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE OUR
11:36:36 RECENT HIRING OF BRANDIE MIKLUS.
11:36:39 BRANDIE COMES TO US WITH A GREAT PALETTE OF INFORMATION AND
11:36:43 KNOWLEDGE.
11:36:44 SHE'S GOT DEGREES IN COMMUNICATION AS WELL AS URBAN
11:36:48 PLANNING.
11:36:49 SHE IS A CERTIFIED PLANNER THROUGH THE AICP PROCESS.
11:36:53 A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN TRANSIT, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
11:36:58 SHE'S VESTED IN THE CITY AS A SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENT AND
11:37:03 ALSO ON THE FRIENDS OF UNION STATION.
11:37:09 WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HER PLAYING A ROLE IN PROGRAM AND
11:37:13 PROJECT COORDINATION WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY
11:37:15 PROJECTS.
11:37:16 WE'VE GOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF WORK WITH PIPES PROJECTS,
11:37:20 MOBILITY PROJECTS.
11:37:22 SHE'S GOING TO BE SORT OF THE GLUE BETWEEN THE TECHNICAL
11:37:26 ENGINEERING ASPECT OF THESE PROJECTS AND ALSO THE
11:37:29 COMMUNICATIONS, WORKING WITH OUR MARKETING TEAM TO HAVE
11:37:32 BETTER COMMUNICATIONS ON THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR
11:37:37 CITIZENS.
11:37:38 SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE BRANDIE A MOMENT TO SAY HELLO.
11:37:42 SHE'S SO EXCITED TO BE HERE AND WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO
11:37:44 HAVE HER ON OUR TEAM NOW.
11:37:46 BRANDIE IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
11:37:56 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:37:57 I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.
11:37:58 THANK YOU, JEAN, FOR THE WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION.
11:38:00 I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU AND
11:38:04 ESPECIALLY WITH OUR MOBILITY PLAN, TAMPA MOVES, AS WELL AS
11:38:08 OUR MASSIVE COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, PIPES.
11:38:10 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH DIRECTOR OF MARKETING
11:38:14 COMMUNICATIONS, ASHLEY AS WELL, AND BEING ABLE TO ASSIST
11:38:19 JEAN IN WHATEVER WAY I CAN.
11:38:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:26 ALL RIGHT.
11:38:30 THANK YOU.
11:38:31 CHIEF BENNETT, DOES THAT WRAP UP THE UPDATE?
11:38:34 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK DOING A GREAT JOB WITH TRYING TO
11:38:40 GET COMMUNICATION WITHIN THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
11:38:43 I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL FOR THE CITIZENS, FOR THIS COUNCIL.
11:38:48 INFORMATION IS CRUCIAL TO EVERYBODY AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN
11:38:52 FOLLOW THAT TRAIL, GETTING SOMEONE IN RECREATION DEPARTMENT
11:38:54 AND OTHER AREAS, THAT WE GET THE COMMUNICATIONS OUT I THINK
11:38:58 IS VERY VITAL AND GREAT HIRE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PIPES
11:39:01 PROGRAM, MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT GOOD COMMUNICATION GOING ON.
11:39:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:39:07 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:08 HAD WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 56.
11:39:12 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. MARK WILFALK REGARDING $4.4 MILLION
11:39:17 OF ITEM.
11:39:19 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:39:20 FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:39:24 WE DO HAVE THAT MEMO.
11:39:26 IF NOT -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YES, SIR?
11:39:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:39:31 IS MARK STILL HERE?
11:39:33 GENTLEMEN, NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS ITEM, BUT AS LONG AS
11:39:47 YOU ALL ARE HERE, I WAS OUT AT MCKAY BAY THE OTHER DAY
11:39:52 THROWING SOME TRASH OUT THERE AT THE TRANSFER STATION, AND I
11:39:55 SAW THE CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE IS WELL UNDERWAY FOR THE NEW
11:39:59 TRANSFER STATION, AND I WAS CURIOUS HOW THAT'S GOING.
11:40:03 ARE WE ON TIME, UNDER BUDGET AND MOVING ALONG TREMENDOUSLY?
11:40:07 I WAS A LITTLE SHAKY ON MY ID.
11:40:13 I HAD TO SHOW MY CITY ID.
11:40:16 >>MARK WILFALK: MARK WILFALK, ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM
11:40:20 MANAGEMENT.
11:40:20 YES, CONSTRUCTION IS MOVING ALONG AS PLANNED.
11:40:22 THE TEAM IS WORKING GOOD.
11:40:23 OUR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT IS WORKING
11:40:26 COLLECTIVELY WITH OUR SOLID WASTE PROJECT COORDINATOR.
11:40:32 I THINK WE HAVE PROBABLY ANOTHER SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS LEFT
11:40:35 AND WE SHOULD BE READY TO HAVE A NICE RIBBON CUTTING
11:40:38 CELEBRATION.
11:40:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OPERATIONAL MAYBE BY THE SUMMER?
11:40:42 >>MARK WILFALK: THAT IS THE HOPE.
11:40:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL GET AN INVITE, RIGHT?
11:40:45 >>MARK WILFALK: YOU WILL GET AN INVITE, YES, YOU WILL.
11:40:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FANTASTIC.
11:40:49 IN REGARD TO THIS ITEM, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO,
11:40:52 I ASSUME, REPLACE SOME OF OUR OLDER EQUIPMENT WITH THE NEW
11:40:56 EQUIPMENT AND THE SIDE LOADERS AND ALL THAT.
11:40:59 I THINK IT MAKES -- IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE WHEN WE SWITCHED
11:41:03 OVER TO THE AUTOMATIC LOADING AND TOOK A LOT OF STRESS OFF
11:41:05 OF THE PHYSICAL BODIES OF YOUR FOLKS.
11:41:10 >>MARK WILFALK: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:41:11 WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
11:41:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:41:14 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:41:15 HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:41:18 MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:41:19 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
11:41:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:41:22 ANY OPPOSED?
11:41:22 ALL RIGHT.
11:41:25 NEXT UP, WE HAVE $3.8 MILLION PROJECT WITH A MEMO FROM MR.
11:41:30 BRAD BAIRD.
11:41:31 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS?
11:41:32 I SEE HE IS STANDING BY.
11:41:36 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:41:38 THIS IS 57.
11:41:42 NO.
11:41:47 ALL RIGHT.
11:41:48 IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:41:50 MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:41:52 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
11:41:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:41:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:57 NEXT UP IS A $3.9 MILLION ITEM WITH THE CITY AND SKANSKA.
11:42:04 I DON'T SEE A MEMO ON THIS.
11:42:08 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:42:10 DINGFELDER.
11:42:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:42:12 MS. GARVEY, I APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US TODAY.
11:42:16 AT LEAST YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WALK VERY FAR.
11:42:18 I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, BUT I WANT TO
11:42:24 SEE IF WE'RE MAKING ANY PROGRESS.
11:42:26 WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOLAR ON THE CONVENTION
11:42:31 CENTER AS PART OF THIS SKANSKA REVIEW, DESIGN, BUILD,
11:42:37 ET CETERA.
11:42:39 ANY WORD ON THAT YET?
11:42:43 >> NOT TO THIS DATE, NO.
11:42:45 WE'RE STILL IN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN-BUILD STAGE OF
11:42:48 DEVELOPING THE WHOLE PROGRAM FOR THE EXPANSION.
11:42:51 THIS PARTICULAR ITEM SPEAKS IN REGARD TO THE EARLY OUTPUT
11:42:57 ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE ORIGINAL RFQ TO GET THE BUILDING
11:43:00 READY FOR THE EXPANSION ITSELF.
11:43:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT -- I MEAN, IT'S
11:43:07 UNFORTUNATE THE BUILDING IS SLOW RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF COVID,
11:43:10 BUT IT'S GREAT WE AT LEAST HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME
11:43:13 OF THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS DONE DURING A SLOW PERIOD.
11:43:18 I GUESS WE CAN LOOK AT IT THE GLASS IS HALF FULL AND MAKE
11:43:22 PROGRESS DURING THIS TIME.
11:43:23 >> AGREED.
11:43:24 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:43:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
11:43:27 COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:43:27 IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:43:31 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:43:32 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:43:33 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
11:43:34 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:43:37 >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
11:43:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT STAFF ON THAT ONE
11:43:41 IN REGARD TO SKANSKA DOES HAVE A GOOD MINORITY EBO PROGRAM
11:43:48 WITH A LOT OF DIVERSITY.
11:43:51 >> AGREED.
11:43:51 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:43:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:43:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:53 NEXT UP IS 59.
11:43:56 IT'S A $5 MILLION ITEM WITH MANCON.
11:44:03 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM PETE BRETT WHO WILL BE MAKING A
11:44:07 PRESENTATION.
11:44:07 BEFORE WE BEGIN, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I KNOW THERE WAS A
11:44:25 REQUEST THAT THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM COME FIRST UNDER
11:44:28 STAFF REPORTS.
11:44:29 BUT BEING THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD MENTIONED ABOUT
11:44:32 CONTACTING AND ASKING QUESTIONS AND US BRINGING IT BACK
11:44:35 AFTER LUNCH IS THAT OKAY, SIR?
11:44:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
11:44:38 ABSOLUTELY.
11:44:39 MY CONCERN ABOUT PEOPLE BEING HERE FOR COMMENTING ON IT HAS
11:44:43 BEEN ADDRESSED, SO WE CAN TAKE THAT AFTER LUNCH, FRANKLY.
11:44:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:48 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:44:52 >>SAL RUGGIERO: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:44:55 SAL RUGGIERO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
11:44:55 SERVICES.
11:44:57 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR NEW MANAGER, GARY STUART, MAKING A
11:45:02 LITTLE PRESENTATION ON THIS MANCON CONTRACT, WHICH WE THINK
11:45:06 IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY AND IT'S MUCH NEEDED.
11:45:10 I KNOW WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN IN FRONT OF YOU DUE TO THE
11:45:14 PANDEMIC.
11:45:14 I WANT TO DO A COUPLE OF INTRODUCTIONS.
11:45:16 WE HAVE PETE BRETT WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OVER FACILITIES IN
11:45:21 FLEET.
11:45:22 HE'S A DIRECT REPORT TO ME.
11:45:23 AND GARY STUART AS OF OCTOBER 1st OF 2020 IS THE NEW
11:45:29 MANAGER OF FLEET.
11:45:31 AND HE REPORTS DIRECTLY TO PETE.
11:45:33 WE ALSO HAVE RICK CLARK FROM MANCON TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:45:40 [MICROPHONE FEEDBACK]
11:45:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT'S THE RUSSIANS OR CHINESE.
11:45:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE ALIENS.
11:45:55 SORRY, SIR.
11:45:55 >>SAL RUGGIERO: WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THE MIKE OVER TO GARY
11:45:59 STUART.
11:46:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:04 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:46:07 I GUESS THAT INTRODUCTION WAS FOR ME, RIGHT?
11:46:10 I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MANCON CONTRACT.
11:46:12 THIS IS A SECOND RENEWAL FOR THE CONTRACT.
11:46:18 [MICROPHONE FEEDBACK]
11:46:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE IT COMES.
11:46:23 >> THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN IN PLACE -- THIS WILL BE THE SIXTH
11:46:27 YEAR GOING ON TO THE SEVENTH YEAR.
11:46:29 THIS IS THE SECOND RENEWAL OF A FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL PERIOD.
11:46:34 IT'S A $5 MILLION CONTRACT AS STATED EARLIER.
11:46:37 THE INVENTORY VALUE FOR THIS CONTRACT RIGHT NOW IS
11:46:41 $1.5 MILLION THAT MANCON ACTUALLY OVERSEES FOR THE CITY.
11:46:48 THE INCREASE IS $2.2 MILLION INCREASE.
11:46:52 THIS INCREASE IS ONLY ON THE MANAGEMENT FEE, WHICH IS
11:46:54 $10,000 -- SORRY, 2.2% INCREASE.
11:46:58 WHICH IS ONLY A $10,000 INCREASE ON THE MANAGEMENT FEE, NOT
11:47:03 ON THE TOTAL $5 MILLION.
11:47:05 WITH THIS INCREASE, IT ALSO BRINGS IN EXTRA PAY AND
11:47:11 INCREASES FOR THE SEVEN EMPLOYEES THAT OVERSEE THIS
11:47:15 CONTRACT.
11:47:15 MANCON HAS COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE SLBE AND WMBE
11:47:22 REQUIREMENTS AND HAS SALES OF $206,000.
11:47:26 THEY ARE DEFINITELY WITHIN THE CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS.
11:47:28 ALSO, MANCON STAFF HAS BROUGHT COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY BY
11:47:36 HAVING SEVEN FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO BE
11:47:39 ABLE TO SUPPORT 2700 VEHICLES FOR FIRST RESPONDERS AND TPD.
11:47:48 THEY HAVE BEEN BY THE SIDE THROUGHOUT THE COVID PERIOD
11:47:51 WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH OVER 50 OF THE FLEET MANAGEMENT
11:47:55 TECHNICIANS.
11:47:56 ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS CONTRACT WITH MANCON IS THAT AS
11:48:09 FAR AS A LARGE STOCK INVESTMENT, MANCON OWNS THE CONTRACT --
11:48:12 I MEAN, OWNS ALL THE PARTS IN THE CONTRACT OR WITHIN THE
11:48:15 WAREHOUSE.
11:48:15 AND THE CITY DOES NOT BILL UNTIL WE APPLY -- AND THE CITY IS
11:48:20 NOT BILLED UNTIL WE APPLY THAT TO THE VEHICLES.
11:48:22 I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
11:48:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
11:48:28 GENTLEMAN BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:48:31 I HEAR NONE.
11:48:34 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 59, MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:48:40 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:48:42 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:48:43 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.
11:48:45 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:48:46 AYE.
11:48:46 ANY OPPOSED?
11:48:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AYE.
11:48:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:48:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
11:48:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:54 ITEM NUMBER 60 IS A MEMO FROM OUR CHIEF OF POLICE.
11:48:58 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS ITEM?
11:49:01 ITEM NUMBER 60.
11:49:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:49:07 THANK YOU.
11:49:07 JUST VERY QUICKLY, I'M GLAD WE ASKED THIS QUESTION A YEAR
11:49:15 AGO.
11:49:17 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD ORDERED SOME DRONES, AND I THINK
11:49:21 THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERN ABOUT THE USE OF DRONES OR ANY OTHER
11:49:24 TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD IMPOSE -- POTENTIALLY IMPOSE
11:49:28 ON OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES.
11:49:29 WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE A HEALTHY BALANCE BETWEEN OUR CIVIL
11:49:32 LIBERTIES ON THE ONE HAND AND OUR PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC
11:49:37 ON THE OTHER HAND.
11:49:38 SO WE ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION AND TPD TO MONITOR CLOSELY
11:49:43 THE USE OF THE DRONES, AND THEY PROVIDED A REPORT THAT IS
11:49:50 INCLUDED IN THIS ITEM 60 THAT BASICALLY SAYS THE DRONES WERE
11:49:56 USED FOR THE PURPOSE THEY WERE PURCHASED, FOR TRAINING
11:50:01 PURPOSES, FOR MONITORING SOME LARGE CROWDS.
11:50:07 LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M SURE WE'LL USE IT FOR THE SUPER BOWL,
11:50:10 FOR SECURITY AND THAT SORT OF THING.
11:50:13 BUT OTHERWISE, JUST FOR MUNDANE POLICE PROTECTION ISSUES,
11:50:21 NOT TO BE HOVERING OVER HOMES OR DOING DETECTIVE WORK OR
11:50:26 THAT SORT OF THING.
11:50:27 SO WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW -- MADAM CLERK, I DON'T KNOW IF
11:50:31 THIS ORIGINAL MOTION A YEAR AGO WAS FOR AN ANNUAL REPORT OR
11:50:36 IF IT WAS JUST AN ISOLATED INCIDENT FOR THIS YEAR.
11:50:39 DO YOU KNOW?
11:50:40 >>THE CLERK: THE WAY IT IS STATED, ISOLATED.
11:50:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:50:44 SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO JUST ROLL OVER THIS MOTION TO BE
11:50:50 AN ANNUAL REPORT ON THE USE OF THESE DRONES SO THAT WAY WE
11:50:55 CAN ALWAYS STAY VIGILANT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL
11:50:59 PADDLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
11:51:06 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'LL SECOND THAT.
11:51:09 I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS THERE.
11:51:09 I THINK IT'S ALWAYS INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US AS ELECTED
11:51:11 OFFICIALS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING OUR CITY DOES IS
11:51:15 CONSISTENT WITH OUR BILL OF RIGHTS AND OUR CONSTITUTION AND
11:51:17 OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES.
11:51:19 THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ASKED.
11:51:20 VERY LIKELY, WE ALL KNOW, 99.9% THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE
11:51:24 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OUR ASPIRATIONS ARE.
11:51:28 BUT ASKING THE QUESTION I THINK IS SENSIBLE, SO I'LL SECOND.
11:51:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS GOING TO BE A WRITTEN REPORT, NOT A
11:51:37 PERSONAL APPEARANCE?
11:51:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE FINE, JUST LIKE IT WAS THIS
11:51:40 YEAR.
11:51:41 THANK YOU, MR. CITRO.
11:51:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:51:44 DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:51:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:51:48 ANY OPPOSED?
11:51:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:51:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:52 NEXT UP --
11:51:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE POINT.
11:51:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:51:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE THE MANAGER IS STILL HERE.
11:51:58 THE MOTION ALREADY CARRIED AND VOTED ON ITEM 59.
11:52:02 SOMETHING POPPED IN MY HEAD.
11:52:04 I NEED TO ASK THE QUESTION.
11:52:06 WOULD THE MANAGER FROM FLEET AND PROBABLY MR. WILFALK OUGHT
11:52:11 TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS AS WELL.
11:52:12 I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST CAME INTO OFFICE WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH
11:52:16 THE SOLID WASTE VEHICLES BEING DOWN A LOT AND WAITING FOR
11:52:20 THE VEHICLE TO BE FIXED.
11:52:21 WE APPROVED A CONTRACT FOR PARTS.
11:52:23 IS THIS GOING TO HELP WITH THE EFFICIENCY NOW HAVING PARTS
11:52:26 ON THE SHELVED TO BE ABLE TO GET THE VEHICLES GOING OR HAS
11:52:31 THAT BEEN APPROVED ALREADY?
11:52:33 >> YES, SIR, IT WILL HELP AND ALSO BEEN APPROVED.
11:52:36 THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US START A SECOND
11:52:38 SHIFT FOR THE TRUCK LINE THAT REPAIRS THE TRUCKS.
11:52:42 SO THEY HAVE BEEN THERE TO SUPPORT US AND IT HAS HELPED A
11:52:44 LOT.
11:52:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:52:46 YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
11:52:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:48 WE ARE AT ITEM NUMBER 61, MR. WILFALK DID SEND OUT -- WELL,
11:52:56 HE TRANSMITTED A REPORT HERE.
11:52:59 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:53:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH, GO OVER THE REPORT A LITTLE BIT SO
11:53:06 STAFF UNDERSTAND IT.
11:53:08 THE REASON I MADE THAT MOTION, I HAD SOME UNION
11:53:13 REPRESENTATIVES TALK TO ME.
11:53:14 ALSO SOME PEOPLE IN THE FIELD TALKED ABOUT THE ALLEYWAYS IN
11:53:18 THE CITY, ESPECIALLY SOUTH TAMPA.
11:53:20 A LOT OF THESE ALLEYWAYS ARE VERY SMALL.
11:53:23 WE HAVE BIGGER TRUCKS NOW.
11:53:26 SOME ARE COMPLAINING THAT THE ALLEYWAYS AREN'T BEING
11:53:28 COMPLAINED AND SOME OF THE CITIZENS COMPLAIN THE ALLEYWAY
11:53:31 ISN'T CLEANED.
11:53:32 IF WE'RE USING THE ALLEYWAYS TO PICK UP TRASH, THAT WAS A
11:53:35 CONCERN, THAT VEHICLES WERE BEING DAMAGED AND SOME OF THE
11:53:39 EMPLOYEES MAY HAVE BEEN DISCIPLINED BECAUSE OF ALLEYWAYS NOT
11:53:42 BEING CLEARED OR CLEANED AND FEELING THAT IT'S NOT THEIR
11:53:45 FAULT BECAUSE THE SIZE OF THE TRUCK IS BIGGER THAN WHAT THE
11:53:47 ALLEYWAY IS.
11:53:48 THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION TO GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT
11:53:51 WE'RE DOING, THE PROCESS THESE DRIVERS CAN ALERT MANAGEMENT
11:53:55 ABOUT THE ALLEYWAYS, WHAT ABOUT THE TRUCK SIZE AND SO ON TO
11:53:58 MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T GET DISCIPLINED UNFAIRLY BECAUSE
11:54:03 SOMETHING IS NOT THEIR FAULT.
11:54:06 >>SAL RUGGIERO: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
11:54:10 SERVICES.
11:54:11 BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MR. WILFALK, I WANT TO ENSURE
11:54:14 COUNCIL THAT NUMBER ONE, ALL DISCIPLINE IS VETTED THROUGH
11:54:19 HUMAN RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS PROGRESSIVE
11:54:25 AND UP AND UP.
11:54:26 I THINK MARK IS GOING TO KIND OF EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT THERE
11:54:32 ISN'T A TENDENCY TO OVER-DISCIPLINE DRIVERS, THAT THERE IS A
11:54:36 PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THESE ALLEYS, AND THAT THERE IS A FAIR
11:54:39 AND EQUITABLE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS.
11:54:41 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARK WILFALK.
11:54:48 >>MARK WILFALK: THANK YOU, SAL.
11:54:49 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:54:51 MARK WILFALK, DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE AND ENVIRONMENTAL
11:54:54 PROGRAM MANAGEMENT HERE TO ADDRESS THE MOTION, CM 20 65292.
11:55:05 BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY
11:55:05 COUNTERPART, MR. STUART AND MR. RUGGIERO.
11:55:06 SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THUS
11:55:11 FAR HAVE REALLY IMPROVED THE AVAILABILITY OF FLEET EQUIPMENT
11:55:15 FOR OUR PERSONNEL, WHICH IS ALSO TRANSLATED INTO LOWER
11:55:18 OPERATING COSTS, REDUCED OVERTIME AND WHATNOT.
11:55:21 THANKS AGAIN, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
11:55:24 I WAS ASKED TO COME TODAY TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT, AS WAS
11:55:29 MENTIONED EARLIER, CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT'S INVOLVED WITH
11:55:31 DRIVERS IN OUR DEPARTMENT WHO GET IN ACCIDENTS WHILE
11:55:36 PERFORMING THEIR ASSIGNMENTS AND THEN ADDRESS THE CONTINUOUS
11:55:39 ISSUE REGARDING OVERGROWTH IN THE ALLEYS AS WELL AS
11:55:41 DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE ALLEYWAYS OF SOME OF OUR
11:55:45 NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:55:46 IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT ALL OF OUR COLLECTION STAFF
11:55:50 THAT WE HIRE, TRAINED AND EVALUATED ON THEIR AVAILABILITY TO
11:55:54 SAFELY MANEUVER THE LARGE COLLECTION VEHICLES THROUGH
11:55:56 CHALLENGING ROADWAYS, ALLEYWAYS, LOW-HANGING OBSTACLES AND
11:56:00 OBSTRUCTIONS THAT MAY COME OUT INTO THE ROAD.
11:56:04 WHENEVER THERE'S A SAFETY-RELATED INCIDENT THAT OCCURS WITH
11:56:06 AN EMPLOYEE OR A DRIVER, ALL OF THOSE MATTERS ARE REVIEWED
11:56:10 BY OUR INCIDENT REVIEW PANEL.
11:56:12 THAT INCIDENT REVIEW PANEL CONSISTS OF PEERS.
11:56:15 SO PEOPLE WHO PERFORM THE SAME DUTIES AS WELL AS A
11:56:19 COMBINATION OF SOME OF OUR LEADERS IN THE DEPARTMENT.
11:56:22 SO IT'S NOT JUST ME SAYING, YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT
11:56:25 BETTER, I WOULDN'T DARE DO THAT TO OUR PROFESSIONALS BECAUSE
11:56:28 WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS APPRECIATION OF WHAT THEY DO AND WE
11:56:32 UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTIES INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
11:56:35 ONCE THAT MATTER IS REVIEWED, THERE'S A RENDERING THAT COMES
11:56:39 OUT WHICH IS EITHER PREVENTABLE, NON-PREVENTABLE AND IN
11:56:43 EITHER CASE, SOMETIMES THERE MAY BE AN UNDETERMINED.
11:56:46 IN EITHER CASE, THERE'S EITHER A MANAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY OR
11:56:49 AN EMPLOYEE OPPORTUNITY.
11:56:51 WE REALLY LIKE TO TRY TO TAKE THOSE MOMENTS TO TRAIN OUR
11:56:55 EMPLOYEES TO REDUCE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS
11:56:58 THAT THEY HAVE AND I'M PROUD TO SAY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS,
11:57:02 WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS
11:57:06 THAT WE HAVE AND ACCIDENTS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
11:57:09 IF CORRECTIVE ACTION IS WARRANTED, IT CAN COME IN MANY
11:57:14 DIFFERENT FORMS.
11:57:15 IT CAN COME BY WAY OF MAKING PHYSICAL CHANGES TO SOMETHING
11:57:19 IN THAT COLLECTION ENVIRONMENT.
11:57:21 SO IF A DRIVER IS TRYING TO COLLECT A DUMPSTER AND HE OR SHE
11:57:24 IS HAVING A TOUGH TIME NAVIGATING THAT VEHICLE TO GET INTO
11:57:27 THAT DUMPSTER BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER OBSTACLES, OUR TEAM WILL
11:57:31 GO OUT AND WORK WITH THOSE LOCATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
11:57:35 CAN SAFELY PERFORM THEIR DUTIES IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
11:57:39 OTHER FORMS OF CORRECTIVE ACTION MAY INCLUDE ADMINISTRATIVE
11:57:43 PERSONNEL ACTION, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE COUNSELING, COACHING
11:57:47 TO PERFORMANCE, OR MAYBE MORE PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINARY
11:57:52 APPROACHES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
11:57:53 SEVERAL FACTORS ARE CONSIDERED PRIOR TO ADMINISTERING
11:57:58 DISCIPLINARY ACTION, INCLUDING THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE,
11:58:02 COMPLEXITY OF THE SITUATION THAT THEY ARE INVOLVED IN.
11:58:04 AND PREVIOUS HISTORY AS WELL.
11:58:09 I GOT THE REQUEST, I DID AN EVALUATION, A CURSORY REVIEW OF
11:58:23 THE ACCIDENTS IN ALLEYWAYS.
11:58:24 PROUD TO SAY ONLY CAME UP WITH FOUR.
11:58:26 NONE OF THEM RESULTED IN LOST TIME, AND THE DISCIPLINE
11:58:30 ADMINISTERED IN ALL OF THOSE WAS NOT SEVERE.
11:58:33 THOSE DRIVERS ARE STILL WITH US, AND THEY'VE GOTTEN THE
11:58:38 TRAINING THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO REDUCE THOSE INCIDENTS
11:58:41 FROM REOCCURRING.
11:58:44 SAL MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT ANY
11:58:47 SORT OF DISCIPLINE THAT WE ADMINISTER, PERSONNEL ACTION THAT
11:58:49 WE TAKE FOR EMPLOYEES IS ALWAYS VETTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH
11:58:52 OUR HR DEPARTMENT.
11:58:54 EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
11:58:56 THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE FOR US, AND THEY ARE ALSO
11:58:59 INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING SURE THAT IF CORRECTIVE ACTION IS
11:59:02 WARRANTED, THAT IT'S APPLIED FAIRLY.
11:59:05 WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO REMOVE DRIVERS.
11:59:10 TRUST ME, IT IS TOO DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT TALENTED DRIVERS TO
11:59:13 DO THE JOB THAT THESE PROFESSIONALS DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
11:59:17 I THINK IT'S ALSO REFLECTED IN OUR ATTRITION RATE.
11:59:21 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS -- I
11:59:24 HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT THAT CLOSELY -- BUT OUR ATTRITION RATE
11:59:27 IN THE DEPARTMENT IS PRETTY WELL.
11:59:29 I'M GOING TO GAMBLE AND SAY IT'S BETWEEN 85 AND 90 PERCENT.
11:59:32 IN FACT, WE'RE GETTING READY TO CELEBRATE THE RETIREMENT OF
11:59:37 MR. WILLIE KENNEDY, WHO IS A 33-YEAR VETERAN ON OUR
11:59:42 COLLECTION TEAM.
11:59:42 SO IT KIND OF SPEAKS TO OUR ATTRITION RATE.
11:59:45 NAVIGATING THOSE COLLECTION VEHICLES THROUGH THE ROADWAYS
11:59:48 AND CURBSIDE PARKING AND ALLEYWAYS IS CHALLENGING.
11:59:52 AND IT ALSO INCREASES THE RISK.
11:59:55 AND IT DEFINITELY PROVIDES CHALLENGES TO OUR COLLECTION
11:59:59 STAFF.
11:59:59 ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY IT'S EQUIVALENT TO ME TRYING TO GET INTO
12:00:04 THE SAME PAIR OF JEANS THAT I TRIED TO WEAR IN COLLEGE.
12:00:07 IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD LOOK.
12:00:10 I ALWAYS APPLAUD OUR DRIVERS.
12:00:13 I'LL KIND OF VEER OFF SCRIPT A LITTLE BIT.
12:00:15 I ACTUALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO DRIVE SOME OF THOSE
12:00:18 CHALLENGING ALLEYWAYS.
12:00:20 JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I CLEARED IT, I TURNED THE TRUCK AND
12:00:23 FLATTENED A TIRE.
12:00:25 I TRULY ADMIRE THE WORK OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO GO IN THAT.
12:00:30 AND TO THE SAME TOKEN, WE'VE ALSO MADE SIGNIFICANT
12:00:33 ADJUSTMENTS AND APPROPRIATED SOME FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN
12:00:37 MAINTAIN THE CONDITIONS OF THE ALLEYWAYS TO KEEP IT AS SAFE
12:00:40 AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR DRIVERS.
12:00:42 THEY KNOW MANY -- ALL OF OUR DRIVERS KNOW THAT IF THEY
12:00:48 ENCOUNTER CHALLENGES, OBSTACLES WHILE PERFORMING DUTIES,
12:00:51 THEY CAN CALL OUR CENTRALIZED DISPATCH UNIT AND GIVE THE
12:00:54 EXACT LOCATION.
12:00:55 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CONTRACTS VALUED AT ABOUT $65,000 THAT
12:00:58 WE HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING OUT TRIMMING THOSE TREES AND
12:01:01 OPENING UP THE ALLEYWAYS FOR OUR TEAM.
12:01:04 AND EVEN THOUGH WE DO THAT, IT'S STILL CHALLENGING.
12:01:07 THAT'S BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR CODE
12:01:09 ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY TO MAKE
12:01:13 SURE THAT WHEN ZONING PERMITS AND BUILDINGS AND PDs ARE
12:01:17 APPROVED, THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWED ACCORDING TO THE PLAN, AND
12:01:20 OFTEN WE WILL ENCOUNTER DEVELOPERS WHO MAY ENCROACH INTO
12:01:23 THAT ALLEYWAY ONE OR TWO FEET, WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT
12:01:27 WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE 15-TON VEHICLE THROUGH THE
12:01:32 ALLEYWAY.
12:01:33 SO WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THOSE.
12:01:35 THERE ARE STILL SOME THAT GET BY AND THEY CREATE CHALLENGING
12:01:38 SITUATIONS FOR US, SO WE'VE ORDERED SMALLER VEHICLES IN SOME
12:01:43 CASE.
12:01:43 BUT SMALLER VEHICLES CAN'T BE USED IN ALL SITUATIONS.
12:01:46 IT'S JUST NOT EFFICIENT FOR COLLECTION OPERATIONS.
12:01:50 I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN REEMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT WE ARE
12:01:55 COGNIZANT OF IT, WE ARE AWARE OF IT, AND WE HAVE AN OPEN
12:01:59 DOOR POLICY.
12:02:01 ANYTIME A DRIVER HAS A PROBLEM, THEY CAN ALWAYS COME AND
12:02:04 TALK TO US ABOUT IT.
12:02:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:02:07 APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.
12:02:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:02:09 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:02:10 YES, SIR.
12:02:13 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:02:13 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH WE
12:02:16 APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK OF OUR SOLID WASTE DRIVERS FOR
12:02:19 PROBABLY BEFORE I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL FOR TEN YEARS AT MY
12:02:22 OLD FIRM, I USED TO REPRESENT A LOT OF BIG TRUCKING
12:02:25 COMPANIES AND CDL DRIVERS.
12:02:27 SO I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING A BIG VEHICLE LIKE THAT,
12:02:30 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
12:02:31 I MEAN, IT REALLY IS.
12:02:32 AND ESPECIALLY, JUST MY EXPERIENCE, IN TALKING WITH DRIVERS
12:02:37 WHO GET INTO ONE ACCIDENT, THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT,
12:02:40 SOMETIMES EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT AT FAULT, EVEN AN ARGUMENT, IN
12:02:44 OUR PRESENT AGE, IF YOU GET INTO IMPACT WITH A COMMERCIAL
12:02:49 VEHICLE, ODDS ARE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CLAIM MADE AGAINST
12:02:51 YOU AND YOUR CDL AND YOUR DRIVING HISTORY.
12:02:57 SO MANY ISSUES, THAT WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOUR
12:02:59 DRIVERS DO.
12:03:00 I USED TO DEAL WITH -- IF YOU REMEMBER THE CIVIL SERVICE
12:03:03 REVIEW BOARD, YEAH, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A HARD JOB.
12:03:07 I MEAN, IT REALLY, REALLY IS.
12:03:09 JUST IN SO MANY WAYS.
12:03:10 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:03:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:03:11 GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:03:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
12:03:18 MARK, JUST ON A LIGHTER NOTE, I HAD TO LAUGH REALLY HARD
12:03:22 WHEN YOU SAID ABOUT THE JEANS BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS THE DAY
12:03:24 AFTER THANKSGIVING, I TRIED ON A FEW OF MINE AND I HAD TO
12:03:28 RUN OVER TO THE MALL AND GET TWO NEW PAIR.
12:03:31 >> I KNOW THE FEELING.
12:03:33 [ LAUGHTER ]
12:03:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON THAT NOTE, I WAS IN MY STORAGE UNIT
12:03:36 THE OTHER DAY AND I PUT ON MY JEANS FROM COLLEGE, AND THEY
12:03:39 FIT.
12:03:40 >>MARK WILFALK: RUB IT IN.
12:03:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE WRONG UNIT.
12:03:45 [ LAUGHTER ]
12:03:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:03:47 WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30 FOR LUNCH.
12:03:50 THANK YOU.
12:03:50 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:03:50 [RECESS]
13:28:26
12:03:51
13:35:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
13:35:28 ORDER.
13:35:29 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
13:35:30 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
13:35:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
13:35:31 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
13:35:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
13:35:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
13:35:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
13:35:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
13:35:38 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
13:35:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:35:41 WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
13:35:42 WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 62, THE DRAFT APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
13:35:48 WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THAT.
13:35:50 MS. ZELMAN, I SEE YOU.
13:35:52 [MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND]
13:35:54 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, THIS
13:35:57 IS AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IN DRAFT FORM FOR
13:36:01 DISCUSSIONS PURPOSES ONLY.
13:36:05 IT WAS PREPARED IN RESPONSE TO A MOTION MADE BY CITY
13:36:08 COUNCIL.
13:36:09 AND BEFORE I TALK MORE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, I DO WANT TO
13:36:12 REMIND BOTH THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND ANY MEMBERS
13:36:16 OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING THAT IN ADDITION -- OF
13:36:21 COURSE, BOTH THE MEMBERS OF THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR
13:36:25 HAVE MADE IT A GOAL TO BUILD A STRONGER, MORE TALENTED, MORE
13:36:28 DIVERSE WORKFORCE IN THE CITY, AND WE HOPE THAT EVERYONE
13:36:33 KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST ONE PIECE OF THAT
13:36:37 PUZZLE.
13:36:37 IT CAN'T FIX EVERYTHING.
13:36:39 BUT AS YOU LEARNED THIS MORNING, OR YOU WERE INTRODUCED TO
13:36:42 THIS MORNING, THE CITY JUST ANNOUNCED THE HIRING OF BREN
13:36:48 McKENZIE, THE WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS AND SPECIAL PROJECTS
13:36:51 DIRECTOR.
13:36:51 I'M SPOKEN WITH HER AS WELL.
13:36:53 AND SHE'S GOING TO BE WORKING ON OTHER PROGRAMS AT THE CITY
13:36:56 THAT HOPEFULLY WILL INCREASE THE DIVERSITY AND STRENGTHEN
13:37:01 AND MAKE THE WORKFORCE IN THE CITY MORE RESILIENT.
13:37:05 SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
13:37:07 ANOTHER ITEM TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT FOR ALL THE CCNA
13:37:12 CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY ENTERS INTO, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES
13:37:17 THAT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHERE THE WORK REQUIRES EITHER AN
13:37:23 ENGINEER OR AN ARCHITECT OR BOTH.
13:37:25 THOSE CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY HAS, THE CCNA CONTRACTS
13:37:31 ALREADY HAVE A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT.
13:37:34 SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE APPRENTICE
13:37:38 ORDINANCE ISN'T THE END-ALL, BE-ALL TO EVERYTHING.
13:37:41 IT'S ONE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX, BUT WE DO HAVE OTHERS.
13:37:43 BUT WITH THAT, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
13:37:46 AND WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE, YOU ASKED US TO LOOK AT THE
13:37:51 CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG'S ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD ONE
13:37:54 FOR A FEW YEARS REQUIRING CITY CONTRACTORS TO HIRE A CERTAIN
13:37:59 PERCENTAGE OF APPRENTICES.
13:38:02 WE ALSO LOOKED AT BROWARD COUNTY WHICH HAS ADOPTED BUT NOT
13:38:05 YET IMPLEMENTED AN ORDINANCE.
13:38:07 THERE'S ANOTHER CITY IN FLORIDA, THE CITY OF RIVIERA BEACH
13:38:11 THAT HAS AN ORDINANCE.
13:38:12 THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES WE COULD FIND IN FLORIDA.
13:38:15 AND AS WELL, I LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF ORDINANCES FROM OTHER
13:38:18 CITIES AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND ACTUALLY
13:38:22 STOLE SOME IDEAS FROM THEM.
13:38:25 IN ADDITION, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE BRAD BAIRD AND JEAN
13:38:29 DUNCAN HAVE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP TO ME IN TERMS OF
13:38:34 DISCUSSING THE CONTRACTING ISSUES WITH BOTH THEIR
13:38:39 COUNTERPARTS.
13:38:40 PARTICULARLY, BRAD HAS TALKED TO A LOT OF FOLKS AT ST. PETE
13:38:42 AND ELSEWHERE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THESE TYPES OF
13:38:46 REQUIREMENTS.
13:38:46 AND ALSO TALKED WITH MEMBERS OF THE INDUSTRY, WITH THE
13:38:49 CONTRACTORS WHO DO CITY WORK TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS
13:38:53 ORDINANCE WOULD IMPACT THEM AND HOW IT HAS IMPACTED THEM IN
13:38:56 PLACES LIKE ST. PETE.
13:38:58 AND THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
13:39:00 IN ADDITION, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN VIERA.
13:39:03 HE COORDINATED A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS I HAD BOTH WITH THE
13:39:07 FOLKS WHO SAW -- BUT ALSO WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LABOR
13:39:12 UNIONS, THEY GAVE ME A LOT OF IDEAS WHICH WE ALSO TRIED TO
13:39:15 INCORPORATE IN THE ORDINANCE.
13:39:18 SO, AGAIN, IT'S A DRAFT ORDINANCE, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW
13:39:21 THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF INPUT INTO IT.
13:39:25 SO JUST QUICKLY, THE ORDINANCE WOULD AMEND CHAPTER 26.5 OF
13:39:30 THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
13:39:32 AND IT WOULD ADD THE REQUIREMENT THAT FOR ANY CITY CONTRACT
13:39:36 FOR A VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT -- AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT
13:39:40 IN A MINUTE -- OF $1 MILLION OR MORE, THE CONTRACTOR WOULD
13:39:44 BE REQUIRED TO USE APPRENTICES FOR 12% OF THE LABOR HOURS
13:39:51 INVOLVED IN ENFORCING THAT CONTRACT.
13:39:54 SO THE FIRST POINT THAT I KNOW MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE
13:39:57 QUESTIONS ABOUT IS WHY ARE WE LIMITING IT TO VERTICAL
13:40:00 CONSTRUCTION?
13:40:01 THE CITY'S THOUGHT WAS LET'S WALK BEFORE WE RUN.
13:40:06 WHEN WE SPOKE TO ST. PETE, WHEN THEY IMPLEMENTED THEIR
13:40:10 ORDINANCE, THEY GOT A LOT OF PUSH-BACK FROM SOME
13:40:14 CONTRACTORS.
13:40:15 BROWARD ALSO EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS.
13:40:18 WHAT WE ALSO FOUND WAS, IT'S THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, THE
13:40:22 ABOVEGROUND CONSTRUCTION WHERE APPRENTICES ARE MOST
13:40:27 AVAILABLE.
13:40:27 THE TYPE OF TRADES THAT ARE INVOLVED TEND TO HAVE
13:40:30 APPRENTICES.
13:40:31 THAT'S LESS TRUE FOR UNDERGROUND WORK.
13:40:35 SO THE THOUGHT WAS, LET'S START WITH SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW
13:40:39 WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL AT, AND THEN LOOK TO EXPAND IT IN THE
13:40:43 FUTURE.
13:40:43 SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT SAYING THAT IT COULD NEVER APPLY TO OTHER
13:40:49 TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, BUT THE THOUGHT WAS LET'S
13:40:53 START WITH SOMETHING WE KNOW SHOULD WORK AND THEN BUILD ON
13:40:57 THAT.
13:40:59 I IDENTIFIED FOR COUNCIL IN MY MEMORANDUM, WE HAVE AT LEAST
13:41:02 THREE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE CONTRACTED FOR IN THE CITY IN
13:41:06 THE COMING YEAR TO WHICH THAT WOULD APPLY.
13:41:09 THE FAIR OAKS PARK PROJECT AND THEN THE TIPPIN WATER
13:41:13 TREATMENT PLANT AND THE CURREN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT
13:41:17 FACILITIES ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION
13:41:20 PROJECTS OF MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS.
13:41:23 SO THE ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO THEM.
13:41:24 SOME OTHER POINTS ABOUT IT IS WE LIMITED IT TO -- OR WE
13:41:33 DEFINED APPRENTICES TO BE THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN A
13:41:37 REGISTERED STATE OR FEDERAL APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM UNLESS
13:41:41 THERE ARE NO REGISTERED PROGRAMS IN THAT PARTICULAR TRADE,
13:41:45 IN WHICH CASE THE COMPANY CAN HAVE A COMPANY SPONSORED
13:41:49 TRAINING PROGRAM.
13:41:50 WE HAVE SOME EXCEPTIONS.
13:41:52 ONE IS IF IT'S OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY LAW.
13:41:55 THE OTHER ONE IS ONE THAT ADMITTEDLY I DIDN'T DEFINE THIS
13:42:02 WELL.
13:42:02 I SAID, YOU KNOW -- AND THIS, AGAIN, WAS A RECOMMENDATION
13:42:06 FROM ST. PETE.
13:42:07 YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION FOR THOSE UNUSUAL
13:42:11 CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU JUST CAN'T ANTICIPATE WHERE YOU DON'T
13:42:14 HAVE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS.
13:42:16 SO I USED THE TERM, YOU KNOW, IF THE MAYOR OR HER DESIGNEE
13:42:20 DETERMINES THAT EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST, THAT IT'S
13:42:23 NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO APPLY THIS, WE CAN
13:42:27 FLESH THAT OUT AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
13:42:30 IT'S OBVIOUSLY SUPPOSED TO APPLY ONLY TO VERY UNIQUE,
13:42:34 UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND NOT AT ALL OFTEN, OF COURSE.
13:42:41 WHAT WE ALSO ADDED -- AND THIS WAS SOMETHING I FOUND IN SOME
13:42:44 OTHER STATES -- THAT IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE A CONTRACTOR
13:42:49 IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE, THEY WANT TO PROVIDE
13:42:54 APPRENTICES BUT THEY END UP ONLY MEETING A 6% THRESHOLD
13:43:00 RATHER THAN A 12% THRESHOLD, RATHER THAN JUST FINDING THEM
13:43:05 WHOLLY IN NONCOMPLIANCE, WE WOULD HAVE ALMOST A FEE IN LIEU
13:43:11 PROGRAM, AGAIN, I SAW THIS IN OTHERS WHERE YOU ASSESS A FEE
13:43:16 THAT'S DESIGNED TO REPRESENT THE COST BENEFIT, THE COST
13:43:20 SAVINGS THEY ARE REALIZING BY NOT UTILIZING APPRENTICES.
13:43:24 AND THEN THAT MONEY COULD BE PUT TOWARD APPRENTICESHIP
13:43:30 TRAINING PROGRAMS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OR IF YOU WANTED TO
13:43:31 LIMIT IT TO THE CITY.
13:43:32 BUT I THOUGHT IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE COUNTYWIDE.
13:43:35 SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE KEY POINTS OF THE ORDINANCE.
13:43:38 AGAIN, IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES TODAY.
13:43:43 AFTER HEARING WHAT COUNCIL HAS TO SAY, WE CAN BRING BACK AN
13:43:47 ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.
13:43:49 ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT HAS COME UP IN SOME OF MY DISCUSSIONS
13:43:54 WITH BOTH CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN THE
13:43:57 ORDINANCE, I SAID THIS ORDINANCE BECOMES EFFECTIVE ON TO BE
13:44:06 DECIDED 2021.
13:44:08 THE CITY ADMINISTRATION HAS RECOGNIZED THAT IT'S GOING TO
13:44:11 TAKE SOMETIME TO GET THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE.
13:44:14 IT DOES REQUIRE CITY STAFF TO COME UP WITH A FEE SCHEDULE.
13:44:20 TO COME UP WITH FORMS BY WHICH THE CONTRACTORS REPORT, BY
13:44:24 WHICH THEY DEMONSTRATE A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT.
13:44:28 AND WE ALSO NEED CITY STAFF TO MONITOR COMPLIANCE.
13:44:32 WE NEED A LITTLE TIME TO GET THAT IN PLACE.
13:44:35 IN ADDITION, WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH SOME OF THE UNION
13:44:39 FOLKS, THEY SUGGESTED THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOME
13:44:43 TIME TO EDUCATE THE CONTRACTING COMMUNITY ABOUT IT.
13:44:47 APPARENTLY, BROWARD DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE CERTAINLY
13:44:51 WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO DO
13:44:54 THAT.
13:44:54 BUT TAKING SOME TIME TO EDUCATE THE CONTRACTORS WHO WOULD BE
13:45:00 BIDDING ON CITY CONTRACTS ABOUT WHERE TO FIND APPRENTICES
13:45:04 AND HOW TO USE APPRENTICES AND ALL THAT TO THE EXTENT THEY
13:45:07 NEED THAT AND JUST TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT THE ORDINANCE
13:45:09 ITSELF.
13:45:10 SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS
13:45:13 WELL.
13:45:13 WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
13:45:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
13:45:18 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
13:45:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
13:45:20 I APPRECIATE IT SIR.
13:45:22 I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY.
13:45:24 I WANTED TO THANK MS. ZELMAN FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
13:45:28 WE KNOW THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEYS ARE VERY, VERY BUSY, AND
13:45:31 THIS IS A VERY BIG ENDEAVOR.
13:45:32 THANK YOU, ANDREA, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
13:45:35 I ALSO WANTED TO THANK BRANNON JORDAN LAZO, MY HARDWORKING
13:45:40 ASSISTANT.
13:45:41 WE HAD EIGHT, NINE, TEN MEETINGS, MR. CONA, ABC, ORGANIZED
13:45:47 LABOR IN THE LAST YEAR.
13:45:48 EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A CONFLICT, I DO WANT TO STRESS THIS IS
13:45:52 A PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND THE AMENDMENTS THAT I'LL BE
13:45:55 BRINGING FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION THAT REFLECTS
13:46:00 COMPROMISE AND IT REFLECTS DIALOGUE.
13:46:02 WE BEGAN ABOUT A YEAR AGO THROUGH WHAT I WOULD DISCUSS TO BE
13:46:06 A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WHERE ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS
13:46:10 WOULD COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE BIG IDEA OF THE CITY
13:46:13 OF TAMPA PUSHING APPRENTICESHIPS.
13:46:15 I DID THAT BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN THE KIND OF PERSON WHO
13:46:19 PUSHES FOR SOMETHING AND GOES, IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.
13:46:22 I WANT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE.
13:46:23 I STILL WANT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE ON THIS ISSUE AND WHATNOT.
13:46:26 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT DIALOGUE AND
13:46:29 DISCUSSION.
13:46:29 I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
13:46:30 I THINK IT'S AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE RIPE FOR
13:46:35 ACTION ON THIS WHERE A DIALOGUE ON THIS ISSUE, WE TALKED
13:46:37 ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, LONG BEFORE I CAME ON
13:46:41 CITY COUNCIL, SHOULD TURN INTO ACTION.
13:46:43 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE VOICE ON THIS
13:46:46 ISSUE WAS HEARD, THAT BE IN FELT SHUTOUT.
13:46:50 THE PURPOSE OF DIALOGUE FOR ME IS NOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
13:46:53 PIE IS CUT EVENLY, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS A
13:46:56 SAY IN WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE PIE AND THE BEST IDEA IN
13:47:00 TERMS OF DECISION MAKERS THAT ULTIMATELY GOES THERE.
13:47:04 WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?
13:47:05 WE'RE DOING THIS, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID TODAY NUMEROUS
13:47:09 TIMES IS BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS TO ENCOURAGE A
13:47:12 BETTER PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE-CLASS HERE FOR THE WORKING
13:47:15 PEOPLE, FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT
13:47:18 BETTER HOPE AND OPPORTUNITY, ET CETERA.
13:47:20 WE NEED TO DO IT BY UTILIZING OUR OWN LABOR POOL WHENEVER IT
13:47:24 COMES TO TRAINING, ET CETERA.
13:47:25 THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE DOES.
13:47:28 SOME OF MY PRINCIPLES THAT I WANTED IN THIS FROM DAY ONE
13:47:31 INCLUDED, NUMBER ONE, CONTRACTORS ALLOCATING A SET
13:47:34 PERCENTAGE OF LABOR HOURS PER PROJECT FOR STATE-CERTIFIED
13:47:38 APPRENTICESHIPS.
13:47:38 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE DOES.
13:47:41 ONLY BE ELIGIBLE FOR LARGER CONTRACTS.
13:47:46 WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD ONLY BE FOR
13:47:48 LARGER CONTRACTS.
13:47:49 GOOD FAITH EFFORTS PROPERLY DEFINED.
13:47:51 A LOT OF TIMES GOVERNMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, STATE
13:47:53 GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, DOESN'T FOLLOW COMMON SENSE.
13:47:56 THOSE IDEAS THAT MS. ZELMAN WORKED SO HARD TO GET IN THERE,
13:48:00 ET CETERA, ON GOOD FAITH EFFORTS I THINK RECOGNIZE THAT.
13:48:04 THEY GIVE THE ASPIRATION IN TERMS OF OUR GOALS AND VALUES,
13:48:09 BUT THEN THEY GIVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM.
13:48:11 THOSE PANTS ARE A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE, SO TO SPEAK.
13:48:14 I REALLY LIKE THAT.
13:48:15 OBVIOUSLY APPLY TO ONLY STATE CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIPS.
13:48:18 AS I'LL TALK ABOUT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY AND
13:48:21 THIS CITY COUNCIL IS INVOLVED WITH MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS
13:48:25 AN ORDINANCE THAT BENEFITS ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY AND ALL
13:48:29 PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING WOMEN, AS SOMEBODY SAID,
13:48:34 HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY LOCKED OUT -- I THINK IT WAS KEN --
13:48:37 HISTORICALLY LOCKED OUT OF THE APPRENTICESHIP OPPORTUNITIES
13:48:40 AS WELL AS PARTS OF OUR CITY THAT ARE ALL TOO OFTEN IGNORED,
13:48:42 PARTS LIKE EAST TAMPA, UNIVERSITY AREA, SULPHUR SPRINGS,
13:48:45 ET CETERA, ET CETERA, PARTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEMANDING CHANGE
13:48:49 TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
13:48:50 THOSE ARE SOME PRINCIPLES.
13:48:52 I THINK YOU ALSO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE VALUES BEHIND THIS
13:48:55 PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
13:48:56 THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS IDEAS.
13:48:59 ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IS WE ALWAYS HEAR IN
13:49:02 THE CITY OF TAMPA, THROUGHOUT MANY, MANY CITIES, ABOUT
13:49:05 WANTING TO ATTRACT THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST.
13:49:08 WE ALWAYS HEAR THAT IN TAMPA, WE WANT TO ATTRACT THE BEST
13:49:11 AND THE BRIGHTEST.
13:49:13 I THINK WITH THE INFERENCE BEING THAT THE BEST AND THE
13:49:15 BRIGHTEST ARE THOSE PEOPLE COMING BACK TO TAMPA WITH MAYBE A
13:49:18 MASTERS FROM BROWN OR A BACHELOR'S FROM EMERY OR WHATEVER IT
13:49:23 MAY BE.
13:49:24 BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IDEA OF THE BEST AND THE
13:49:26 BRIGHTEST DOESN'T JUST INCLUDE THE AFFLUENT.
13:49:29 DOESN'T JUST INCLUDE THOSE WHO ARE ABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE,
13:49:32 ET CETERA.
13:49:32 BUT INCLUDES THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK WITH THEIR HANDS
13:49:36 AND WHO ARE CARPENTERS, WHO ARE WELDERS, WHO ARE
13:49:39 ELECTRICIANS, ET CETERA.
13:49:40 THAT'S OUR BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST AS WELL.
13:49:43 IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD REACH OUT TO ALL
13:49:46 PEOPLE.
13:49:47 LIKE I ALWAYS SAY WHENEVER I TALK ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE, IT'S
13:49:49 SOMETHING THAT IS PRO, FOR EXAMPLE, VETERAN.
13:49:52 I KNOW, IRONWORKERS, LOCAL 397 HAS THEIR HELMETS TO HARDHATS
13:49:58 PROGRAM, YOUNG RETURNING VETERANS, LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, RETURN
13:50:01 HOME WITH NOTHING, QUITE OFTEN, THEIR HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE AND
13:50:05 THEIR PTSD, AND IT GIVES THEM SOME SET OF TOOLS WHERE THEY
13:50:09 CAN HAVE SOME PROGRESS IN THEIR LIFE.
13:50:12 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, THAT YOUNG SINGLE MOTHER, MAYBE
13:50:14 LIVING IN YBOR CITY, MAYBE LIVING IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA,
13:50:17 WHO WANTS SOMETHING BETTER FOR HER LIFE.
13:50:19 THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES.
13:50:20 MAYBE TAKE THAT GRADUATE FROM MIDDLETON OR FROM KING HIGH
13:50:24 SCHOOL OR FROM JEFFERSON WHO GOES, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO
13:50:27 WITH THE REST OF MY LIFE?
13:50:28 PARTICULARLY NOW DURING COVID WHEN THINGS ARE SO VERY DIM.
13:50:31 THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS A LOT OF HOPE FOR THOSE
13:50:34 PEOPLE.
13:50:34 YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT IN THE LAST SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS
13:50:38 ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE STREETS, MAKING DEMANDS, MAKING --
13:50:42 WANTING TO HAVE CHANGE.
13:50:44 THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT IS PRO SOCIAL JUSTICE.
13:50:48 IT HAS THE CITY OF TAMPA BEING A PARTNER IN PROVIDING
13:50:50 OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE AND FOR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
13:50:54 ALL TOO OFTEN IGNORED.
13:50:56 I REMEMBER A TALK THAT I HAD WHEN I WAS HAVING A COMMUNITY
13:50:59 MEETING OUT AT A LOCAL APARTMENT.
13:51:01 I BELIEVE IT WAS AT TIMBER FALLS, AND TALKING WITH A YOUNG
13:51:04 SINGLE MOTHER ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
13:51:06 DO HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO IMPROVE PEOPLE'S LIVES.
13:51:09 ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT WAS THIS APPRENTICESHIP
13:51:12 ORDINANCE.
13:51:12 I REMEMBER HER LOOKING AT ME WITH THE MOST SINCERITY AND
13:51:16 LEVEL OF EARNESTNESS RIGHT IN MY EYES, IF MY SON COULD BE AN
13:51:22 ELECTRICIAN, I'D GIVE MY RIGHT ARM.
13:51:24 I'D GIVE MY RIGHT ARM.
13:51:26 THINGS THAT A LOT OF US TAKE FOR GRANTED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
13:51:28 OUR CITY SEE IT AS A DREAM, A LOST DREAM AND WE HAVE TO MAKE
13:51:32 SURE TO REMEDY THAT.
13:51:33 AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES A REAL PATHWAY TO THE
13:51:35 MIDDLE CLASS.
13:51:35 IT PROMOTES TAMPA'S VALUES.
13:51:37 FOR ME, TAMPA VALUES OF NOT JUST JUSTICE, BUT RESPECT AND
13:51:44 DIGNITY AND WORK THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO WORK, YOU'RE GOING
13:51:48 TO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK, WE OUGHT TO MEET YOU HALFWAY TO
13:51:52 MAKE SURE A LOT OF THE BASIC DISTRICTS AND BASIC THINGS IN
13:51:55 LIFE SHOULD BE COMING YOUR WAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE
13:51:57 RIGHT THING AND WORK.
13:51:58 I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
13:51:59 IT GOES TO THE IDEA OF COLLECTIVE ACTION ON BEHALF OF PEOPLE
13:52:02 WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
13:52:03 MORE AND MORE AND MORE, WE SEE A GRAVITATION TOWARDS THAT
13:52:07 IDEA THAT WE'RE ALL IN IT BY OURSELVES AND WHAT'S IN IT FOR
13:52:10 ME?
13:52:10 WELL, POLITICALLY AND MORALLY, I'VE NEVER BEEN A BIG
13:52:13 SUPPORTER OF THAT.
13:52:14 I JUST HAVEN'T.
13:52:15 DON'T GET ME WRONG, INDIVIDUAL INITIATIVE, FREE ENTERPRISE,
13:52:18 THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR COUNTRY WORK, BUT WE AS A GOVERNMENT
13:52:21 HAVE GOT TO COME TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A
13:52:24 COLLECTIVE VOICE FOR PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CERTAINLY
13:52:26 DOES.
13:52:27 IT SUPPORTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
13:52:30 IN FACT, I KNOW HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY I BELIEVE IS LOOKING TO
13:52:33 PASS A SIMILAR ORDINANCE NOW.
13:52:36 I SEE THIS IN CONNECTION WITH THINGS LIKE REDEVELOPMENT OF
13:52:40 THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AREA.
13:52:42 IF WE EVER GET THOSE AFT DOLLARS, ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION
13:52:46 MONEY, ALL THESE IDEAS TOGETHER PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
13:52:50 IN THE COUNTY, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WILL REALLY, REALLY
13:52:53 YIELD DIVIDENDS.
13:52:54 IT GOES TO HIRING LOCAL AND TALKING ABOUT AN AGING
13:52:58 WORKFORCE.
13:52:59 EVERYBODY KNOWS, MR. CONA KNOWS THAT, OUR FRIENDS IN
13:53:02 ORGANIZED LABOR KNOWS THIS WE HAVE AN AGING WORKFORCE AND WE
13:53:04 HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE HAVING IT A SHOT -- HAVE
13:53:09 GOT A SHOT OF GETTING INTO THIS.
13:53:10 I KNOW THERE'S SOME OPPOSITION TO THIS.
13:53:12 MR. CONA I CONSIDER TO BE A FRIEND.
13:53:14 WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER A NUMBER OF YEARS AND VERY NICE
13:53:17 GENTLEMAN WITH A WONDERFUL FAMILY.
13:53:18 WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
13:53:20 BUT MY PERSPECTIVE IS WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE
13:53:24 ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE VOTING ON HERE TODAY, THAT THIS IS,
13:53:27 IN FACT, A COMPROMISE BORN OUT OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE
13:53:32 ALMOST SPENT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR GOING THROUGH.
13:53:34 A NUMBER OF THINGS, WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT LEGAL ISSUES, NO
13:53:38 BEARING ON LEGAL ISSUES, JUST IN TERMS OF SUBSTANTIVE POLICY
13:53:41 CHANGES, WHEN YOU COMPARE THIS TO THE ST. PETERSBURG
13:53:43 ORDINANCE, THE STANDARD IS 12% VERSUS 15%.
13:53:47 WE HAVE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS HERE FOR COMPLIANCE THAT WERE A
13:53:50 BIG PRIORITY OF MINE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE GOVERNMENT
13:53:53 MANDATES THAT DON'T HAVE COMMON SENSE.
13:53:56 YOU CAN BE AS WELL-MEANING AS YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU DON'T
13:53:59 APPLY COMMON SENSE, YOU'LL WIND UP DESTROYING THE PEOPLE
13:54:02 YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP, INCLUDING THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
13:54:04 WITHOUT SMALL BUSINESSES THERE CAN BE NO WORKERS.
13:54:06 THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT THIS DOES.
13:54:08 AND ST. PETERSBURG WAS ALSO IN THE DISPUTE HAVING A
13:54:13 DISADVANTAGED WORK ORDINANCE.
13:54:14 WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.
13:54:15 SO, AGAIN, I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
13:54:18 I DO NOT SEE AS PUNITIVE.
13:54:20 I THINK A LOT OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW ME AS, I
13:54:24 WOULD THINK, AS SOMEBODY THAT LIKES TO LISTEN, THAT DOESN'T
13:54:28 GO OUT IN TERMS OF BEING A TERRIBLE RISK TAKER, ET CETERA.
13:54:31 THIS TO ME IS AN ORDINANCE THAT PROGRESSES THE BEST VALUES
13:54:34 THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE ON CITY COUNCIL, BUT DOES
13:54:37 IT IN A MEASURED WAY.
13:54:38 DOES IT IN A CALM WAY, DOES IT IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY, BECAUSE
13:54:42 THE DIALOGUE ISN'T DONE.
13:54:43 IF WE PASS THIS TODAY, WHICH, OF COURSE, WE WON'T, BUT
13:54:45 THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DIALOGUE TO BE HELD AS I'LL TALK
13:54:49 ABOUT.
13:54:49 THIS ORDINANCE TO ME IS CLEARLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
13:54:52 WE CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC
13:54:55 OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE GETS DOWN TO.
13:54:59 I'M GOING TO BE MAKING A MOTION AT THE END OF DISCUSSION ON
13:55:02 A COUPLE OF THINGS.
13:55:03 NUMBER ONE, THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, AS EVERYBODY SAYS, IT'S
13:55:05 A FINE ORDINANCE STANDING ON ITS OWN.
13:55:09 I THINK IT'S A FINE ORDINANCE, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
13:55:11 ISSUES I WANT TO MOVE ON.
13:55:12 NUMBER ONE IS -- I'M NOT MAKING THE MOTION NOW, MR. CHAIR.
13:55:16 BUT FIRST OFF, I BELIEVE THIS MOTION OR THIS ORDINANCE COULD
13:55:18 COME BACK TO US, MS. ZELMAN, I BELIEVE JANUARY 17th.
13:55:22 NUMBER TWO, AS WAS INDICATED BY ANDREA, I KNOW SHE
13:55:25 HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
13:55:27 DEFINING WHAT EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES IS.
13:55:30 JUST SO THAT WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.
13:55:34 WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE MAYOR IN 10, 20 YEARS IF
13:55:38 THIS ORDINANCE PASSES.
13:55:39 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CERTAINTY.
13:55:40 NUMBER TWO IS, MAKING SURE THAT IN GOOD FAITH EFFORTS,
13:55:43 AGAIN, THAT'S A VERY GOOD DEFINITION, BUT MAKE SURE THAT ALL
13:55:46 STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING ORGANIZED LABOR ARE INCLUDED THERE
13:55:49 WHENEVER IT COMES TO FOLKS WITH WHOM THERE'S GOT TO BE
13:55:51 CONSULTATION.
13:55:53 NEXT IS THE ISSUE OF HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION BEING EXCLUDED.
13:55:57 YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SAW IN THE ORDINANCE,
13:56:01 SURPRISED SOME PEOPLE, ET CETERA.
13:56:02 THERE'S A DIALOGUE BEING HELD RIGHT NOW ON WHETHER OR NOT
13:56:06 THERE ARE ENOUGH PROJECTS FOR APPRENTICESHIPS IN HORIZONTAL
13:56:10 CONSTRUCTION.
13:56:11 I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A DIALOGUE THAT'S GOING TO BE
13:56:13 HAPPENING BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 17th OR WHENEVER THIS
13:56:15 COMES BACK.
13:56:16 I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR LANGUAGE THAT INCLUDES
13:56:19 HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION BY OPERATION OF THE ORDINANCE.
13:56:21 BUT WE'VE GOT TO GIVE CITY STAFF ENOUGH TIME.
13:56:25 IF CITY STAFF TELLS ME, LUIS, WE WANT TO BEGIN WITH VERTICAL
13:56:30 AND THEN MOVE TO HORIZONTAL AFTER CERTAIN TIME, I RESPECT
13:56:32 THE HARDWORKING MEN AND WOMEN AND THE PROFESSIONALS ON CITY
13:56:35 STAFF AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS DONE RIGHT.
13:56:38 WE WANT TO LEARN FROM PEOPLE'S MISTAKES.
13:56:39 AND IF WE RUSH INTO SOMETHING, AGAIN, OUT OF MEANING WELL,
13:56:45 THEN THE ORDINANCE WILL HAVE NO CREDIBILITY BECAUSE IT WILL
13:56:47 FAIL.
13:56:47 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A TIMETABLE FOR BOTH HORIZONTAL
13:56:51 AND VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
13:56:52 NEXT IS REPORTING.
13:56:54 AGAIN, IF WE PASS THIS, THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT INFALLIBLE.
13:57:00 A LOT OF THINGS COULD GO WRONG.
13:57:02 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE FIRST YEAR AFTER IT'S
13:57:04 PASSED, WE ARE BRIEFED TWICE BY CITY STAFF IN THIS ORDINANCE
13:57:08 THROUGH LIVE REPORTS, INCLUDING ON HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE A
13:57:11 PART OF THIS, THE NUMBER OF APPRENTICESHIPS THAT COME FROM
13:57:13 THE PROJECTS, COMPLIANCE CHALLENGES FROM THE BUSINESS
13:57:16 COMMUNITY, SUGGESTIONS ON REFORMS TO MAKE IT BETTER,
13:57:18 ET CETERA.
13:57:19 THEN AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, WE CAN BE BRIEFED ONCE A YEAR ON
13:57:23 IT LIVE.
13:57:23 BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED,
13:57:26 THE CHALLENGES THAT CITY STAFF IS HAVING, THE CHALLENGES
13:57:29 THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE CONTRACTING COMMUNITY IS
13:57:31 HAVING, ET CETERA.
13:57:32 WE WANT TO KNOW.
13:57:33 THEN THE LAST ISSUE IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ORDINANCE
13:57:37 AND THE BENEFITS OF IT, IT PROMOTES ECONOMIC DIGNITY AND
13:57:41 INDEPENDENCE, THAT IT REACHES ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY.
13:57:45 NOW, THE BIG CHALLENGES, WE'RE ASKING THE CONTRACTING
13:57:49 COMMUNITY TO GO FROM A POOL OF STATE CERTIFIED
13:57:51 APPRENTICESHIPS.
13:57:52 SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT POOL IS DIVERSE AND THAT
13:57:55 ULTIMATELY ALL PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA SEE BENEFITS OF
13:57:57 THAT?
13:57:58 THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE BURDEN LIES WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
13:58:02 IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE WE DO OUR PART SO THAT ALL PARTS OF
13:58:06 OUR CITY SEE THE BENEFITS OF STATE CERTIFIED
13:58:08 APPRENTICESHIPS.
13:58:08 SO, THEREFORE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS PART OF THAT
13:58:11 REPORTING, CITY STAFF BRIEFS US IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF
13:58:16 STATE CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIPS THAT BENEFIT FROM THIS, THAT
13:58:19 GO TO MINORITY COMMUNITIES, THAT GO TO WOMEN, ET CETERA,
13:58:24 ET CETERA.
13:58:24 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS PART OF THAT, AS PART OF
13:58:27 THAT, THAT THE CITY BRIEFS CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT WE BRIEF
13:58:30 OURSELVES ON TWO THINGS.
13:58:32 NUMBER ONE, HOW MANY EFFORTS THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH THE
13:58:36 ADMINISTRATION DOES AND IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY OF
13:58:39 TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, TO PROMOTE
13:58:42 STATE-CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIPS.
13:58:44 WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PARTNERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE
13:58:46 CAN WORK WITH, PEOPLE LIKE -- THAT REACH MINORITY
13:58:49 COMMUNITIES, NAACP.
13:58:49 WE HAVE A NEW URBAN LEAGUE.
13:58:51 THE CDC, SO MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT AGAIN THE IDEA BEHIND
13:58:55 THIS IS TO BRING THE BENEFITS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
13:58:58 FREE ENTERPRISE TO DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
13:59:01 THAT'S WHY I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.
13:59:02 BUT NUMBER TWO AS PART OF THIS IS SEEING WHAT COUNCIL DOES.
13:59:09 WE CAN HOLD TOWN HALLS AS COUNCIL.
13:59:11 WE ALL DO THAT, BY THE WAY.
13:59:13 BUT MAKING SURE THAT THE BURDEN IS ALSO ON CITY COUNCIL
13:59:15 MEMBERS, ON ALL OF US.
13:59:16 SO AS PART REPORTING OF THAT, WE CAN SAY I DID THIS MEETING,
13:59:20 I DID THAT MEETING, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE LET THE
13:59:23 COMMUNITY KNOW ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE
13:59:26 SURE THAT THE BENEFITS OF THIS ARE DIVERSE.
13:59:28 SO THAT'S A MOTION THAT I'LL BE MAKING ON CERTAIN ISSUES,
13:59:32 BUT, AGAIN, I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY.
13:59:34 WE MET FOR A GOOD NUMBER OF TIMES.
13:59:37 I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THAT WE MET, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT
13:59:40 STEVE, ON THIS, I HAD LIKE A TOOTH INFECTION.
13:59:42 AND I HAD TERRIBLE -- JIM, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT, KEN, I HAD
13:59:47 AWFUL, AWFUL PAIN.
13:59:49 ULTIMATELY, IS EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A CONFLICT, AND I
13:59:52 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I WANT TO LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE IN TERMS
13:59:54 OF THE STEPS FORWARD FROM LEARNING FROM WHAT ST. PETE HAS
13:59:58 DONE THAT WE'VE DONE.
14:00:00 I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOTH SIDES CAN AGREE ON IN
14:00:03 TERMS OF HAVING SOME PROGRESS.
14:00:05 THAT'S MY POSITION ON THAT.
14:00:06 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
14:00:07 I APPRECIATE IT.
14:00:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:00:10 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO AND THEN
14:00:13 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:00:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:01:10 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE AN ELOQUENT SPOKESPERSON FOR OUR GROUP
14:01:17 HERE.
14:01:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
14:01:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ANYTHING THAT
14:01:23 YOU SAID IN TERMS OF THE REASONING AND THE RATIONALE OF WHY
14:01:26 WE SHOULD DO THIS ORDINANCE.
14:01:34 I GIVE GREAT KUDOS TO MY GOOD FRIEND ANDREA ZELMAN, BRAD
14:01:38 BAIRD, AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WORKED ON THIS, ON THE STAFF AND
14:01:39 LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.
14:01:40 I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB.
14:01:41 I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A COMMUNAL EFFORT.
14:01:48 MR. VIERA, YOU'RE EXCELLENT AT REACHING OUT TO VARIOUS
14:01:52 INTERESTED PARTIES AND TRYING TO REACH CONSENSUS.
14:01:59 WE CAN'T ALWAYS MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT I KNOW YOU TRY
14:02:03 YOUR BEST TO DO THAT.
14:02:03 WITH THAT SAID -- AND IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I WAS UP LAST NIGHT
14:02:08 LOOKING AT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AND THROWING IN SOME IDEAS.
14:02:10 AND IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE I ENDED UP WITH THE SAME --
14:02:14 PRETTY MUCH THE SAME CHANGES I THINK THAT YOU JUST
14:02:16 SUGGESTED.
14:02:17 AND I PUT THEM IN WRITING AND PROVIDED THEM TO CITY COUNCIL
14:02:19 AND THE CLERK AND OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AS WELL AS
14:02:24 MS. ZELMAN AND MR. BAIRD.
14:02:26 BUT THE FIRST ONE, WHAT I SAID -- AND YOU JUST SAID IT AS
14:02:30 WELL, LUIS, WAS THAT WE INCLUDE THE HORIZONTAL PROJECTS.
14:02:38 I THINK THE IDEA WAS, WELL, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK A YEAR
14:02:41 FROM NOW AND REVISIT, BLAH, BLAH.
14:02:44 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY AND THIS MAYOR
14:02:46 AND THIS ADMINISTRATION, WE ALWAYS HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON
14:02:49 THAT IT'S BETTER, LET'S JUST DEAL WITH IT.
14:02:51 LET'S GET IT OVER WITH.
14:02:53 LET'S INCLUDE EVERYTHING.
14:02:55 AND LIKE I SAID IN MY MEMO HERE ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE,
14:03:01 THERE'S A BILLION-DOLLAR OPPORTUNITY IN THE PIPES PROGRAM.
14:03:05 EVEN THOUGH ALL THOSE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS MIGHT NOT BE
14:03:06 AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, I'VE TALKED TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE
14:03:06 RUNNING SOME OF THE APPRENTICE PROGRAMS, AND THEY TELL ME
14:03:06 THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY LABOR OPPORTUNITIES AND EQUIPMENT
14:03:21 OPERATOR OPPORTUNITIES, APPRENTICESHIPS THAT ARE READILY
14:03:23 AVAILABLE FOR UNDERGROUND WORK.
14:03:24 I SPOKE TO MR. BAIRD OVER AT LUNCH.
14:03:26 HE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE TOO MUCH HEARTBURN ABOUT IT, AND I
14:03:29 THINK WE CAN WORK ON IT.
14:03:36 LUIS, I THINK -- RIGHT THIS SECOND I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME
14:03:38 PAGE ON THAT ONE.
14:03:39 WHEN I LOOKED AT ST. PETERSBURG -- AND I THINK ONE OR TWO
14:03:42 OTHERS AROUND THE STATE -- THEY DO SEEM TO BE AT 15% INSTEAD
14:03:45 OF 12%.
14:03:46 SO I THREW THAT OUT THERE AS NUMBER TWO AS SOMETHING WE CAN
14:03:49 ALL TALK ABOUT.
14:03:49 I ADDRESSED THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES LANGUAGE,
14:03:56 MR. VIERA, AND I JUST SAID, WHY DON'T WE JUST CALL IT
14:03:58 EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD PUT ANY
14:04:03 FUTURE MAYOR INTO A REAL CORNER.
14:04:06 IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, FINE.
14:04:07 SOME BIG PIPE BREAKS AND BRAD HAS GOT TO GET PEOPLE OUT
14:04:11 THERE TO FIX IT AND IT COSTS A MILLION BUCKS, OKAY, THAT'S
14:04:14 AN EMERGENCY.
14:04:14 BUT MOST OF THE DAY-TO-DAY STUFF IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.
14:04:18 I THINK WE CAN SUBSTITUTE THE LANGUAGE OF EXTRAORDINARY WITH
14:04:21 EMERGENCY AND REALLY DEAL WITH IT THAT WAY.
14:04:24 NUMBER FOUR IS KIND OF A TECHNICALITY, BUT I DON'T
14:04:29 NECESSARILY NEED TO GET INTO IT.
14:04:31 SOMETIMES THE MATERIAL COSTS OF A MILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT
14:04:34 MIGHT BE THREE-QUARTERS OF THE PROJECT TO BUY THE PIPES.
14:04:38 BUYING THE PIPES COSTS 750,000.
14:04:40 PUTTING THEM IN THE GROUND COSTS 250,000.
14:04:42 MAYBE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
14:04:43 I THINK WE CAN HAVE AN EXCEPTION THERE.
14:04:45 NUMBER FIVE SPEAKS TO THE ANNUAL REPORT.
14:04:51 I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAIL ON THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I
14:04:53 THINK IT'S ON THE SECOND-TO-LAST PAGE UNDER REPORTING.
14:05:02 WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE REPORTING,
14:05:04 IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, WHO IS THE
14:05:06 VENDOR, HOW DID THEY DO, ON THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT, LINE ITEM
14:05:10 BY LINE ITEM.
14:05:11 AND I DON'T THINK STAFF HAS A BIG ISSUE WITH THAT ANYWAY
14:05:14 BECAUSE LORD KNOWS MR. BENNETT WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT KIND
14:05:16 OF DETAIL FROM THEM ANYWAY.
14:05:18 IN REGARD TO ITEM 6 AND LUIS, YOU SPOKE TO THIS,
14:05:26 ADMINISTRATION, THE COMMUNITY, ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED NEED
14:05:29 TIME TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
14:05:31 SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS SIX MONTHS FOR THE BASIC
14:05:36 IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE VERTICAL, AND THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE
14:05:38 YOUR LEAD, MR. VIERA, AND SAY MAYBE 9 OR 12 MONTHS TO
14:05:44 IMPLEMENT THE HORIZONTAL PART.
14:05:46 BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THE HORIZONTAL IS A LITTLE MORE
14:05:49 TICKLISH.
14:05:51 SO IF THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED NEEDS A LITTLE
14:05:55 MORE TIME, THEN WE COULD DO THAT.
14:05:56 SO ANYWAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT A LITTLE WORK INTO THIS.
14:06:02 I WAS HOPEFUL WE COULD DO IT BEFORE JANUARY, BUT IF LEGAL IS
14:06:07 TELLING US THEY NEED UNTIL JANUARY, THEN SO BE IT.
14:06:09 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:06:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN.
14:06:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL LET MR. VIERA MAKE THE MOTIONS HE
14:06:16 WANTS AND SEE WHERE WE GO.
14:06:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO AND THEN COUNCILMAN
14:06:19 GUDES.
14:06:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
14:06:21 I'LL MAKE THIS BRIEF.
14:06:22 I DO AGREE WITH BOTH MR. VIERA -- EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN
14:06:25 VIERA AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:06:26 WE HAVE A LARGE, LARGE AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE WITH THE
14:06:32 PIPES PROGRAM.
14:06:33 THERE HAS TO BE ONE OR TWO OR MORE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
14:06:37 APPRENTICESHIPS TO GO IN WITH THAT VERTICAL PROJECT.
14:06:42 I'M ALSO LOOKING -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY PENALTIES, BUT FEES
14:06:48 FOR COMPANIES THAT IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH APPRENTICESHIPS OR
14:06:52 NO APPRENTICESHIPS, MY CONCERN IS ABOUT ANY TYPE OF FEE THAT
14:06:56 WILL BE CHARGED TO THEM.
14:06:59 AGAIN, I WANT TO TALK -- I HOPE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT
14:07:02 OVERSIGHT IN COMPANIES THAT ARE HIRING THE APPRENTICESHIPS.
14:07:09 HOPE THAT IT NEVER HAPPENS, BUT A COMPANY MIGHT ON THE FRONT
14:07:12 END HIRE ALL THE APPRENTICES.
14:07:16 BUT DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT, LET THE
14:07:18 APPRENTICESHIPS GO.
14:07:18 I HOPE THERE'S OVERSIGHT AND REPORTING THAT THE
14:07:21 APPRENTICESHIPS ARE CONTINUING THROUGH THE PROJECT.
14:07:25 A POINT THAT WAS MADE UP BY SPEAKER THIS MORNING, HOW MUCH
14:07:30 WORK DOES THE CITY OF TAMPA ITSELF DO THAT HAS
14:07:36 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS?
14:07:38 HOPEFULLY WE SHOULD BE LEADING BY EXAMPLE.
14:07:44 I HOPE THIS DOESN'T SOUND TOO OUTLANDISH, BUT OUR CITY LEGAL
14:07:48 -- AND THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN FOR THIS -- HAS GONE TO
14:07:52 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES IN DIFFERENT CITIES TO FIND OUT
14:07:55 WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
14:07:57 BUT ONE OF THOSE CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES IS GOING THROUGH
14:07:59 A LAWSUIT.
14:08:01 WOULDN'T IT BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US AT THIS TIME TO SEE
14:08:06 THE OUTCOME OF THAT LAWSUIT THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT LEARN, NOT
14:08:10 FROM THEIR MISTAKES, BUT HELP HOW WE CAN BETTER THIS
14:08:13 ORDINANCE.
14:08:16 AND FINALLY, COUNCILMAN VIERA, I AGREE WITH YOU.
14:08:21 AND I WILL SECOND ANY MOTION THAT YOU MAKE TODAY, THAT THIS
14:08:25 ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE ORGANIC.
14:08:28 AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IT SHOULD BE EVER-GROWING.
14:08:32 THAT IF THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS OF FINDING OUT ABOUT
14:08:35 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, THAT COMPANIES OR UNIONS OR
14:08:39 BUILDERS CAN COME FORWARD AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A CERTAIN
14:08:43 NEED FOR AN APPRENTICESHIP THAT MAY NOT BE IN THE PICTURE.
14:08:50 THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
14:08:51 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
14:08:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:08:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
14:08:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
14:08:57 TODAY.
14:08:58 MR. VIERA, MR. DINGFELDER BEING A LAWYER.
14:09:00 I'M A COP.
14:09:02 YOU GUYS SPEAK THAT JARGON AND PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.
14:09:05 I COME STRAIGHT AT YOU.
14:09:07 LET ME COME STRAIGHT AT IT.
14:09:09 PERSON WHO CAME FROM A VOCATIONAL HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH I WAS
14:09:12 UPSET WHEN THEY NAMED THE CHANGE.
14:09:14 TAMPA BAY VOCATION TECHNICAL HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY CHANGED
14:09:18 THE NAME.
14:09:18 KIND OF UPSET ME BECAUSE I CAME FROM A VOCATIONAL HIGH
14:09:21 SCHOOL.
14:09:21 AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF MY FRIENDS TODAY ARE PLUMBERS,
14:09:25 ELECTRICIANS.
14:09:27 I WAS IN HEALTH SERVICE MYSELF.
14:09:28 SO I STILL HAVE MY CERTIFICATE TO THIS DAY.
14:09:32 SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR VOCATIONAL AND APPRENTICESHIPS
14:09:35 BECAUSE WHEN I GO TO MY COMMUNITIES AND I'VE BEEN SAYING
14:09:37 THAT FOR A WHILE, TALKING TO OUR CRA, EAST TAMPA, THE SAME
14:09:42 THING.
14:09:42 IF WE CAN DO SOME REHABBING, YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR
14:09:46 COMMUNITIES, WE SHOULD BE EMPLOYING THEM TO DO SOME OF THIS
14:09:48 WORK, GET THEM OFF THE TREES, OUT OF THE HOUSE, WORKING,
14:09:52 BEAUTIFYING OUR COMMUNITIES.
14:09:53 WE HAVE A PROGRAM HERE WITH THE PIPE PROGRAM THAT WE
14:09:57 APPROVED, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
14:09:59 THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE, I HEAR ALL THE TIME SOMETIMES, WE
14:10:02 CAN'T FIND PEOPLE OR THEY ARE NOT -- THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY
14:10:08 OR WE CAN'T FIND A COMPANY THAT IT US THIS TYPE OF WORK AND
14:10:13 ALL OF THESE EXCUSES.
14:10:14 THAT MAY BE LEGITIMATE REASON THAT -- WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
14:10:17 BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO TRAIN PEOPLE TO BE WHERE WE NEED TO
14:10:20 BE.
14:10:21 IF WE HAVE A PROGRAM AND ALL THE FACETS THAT CAN TRAIN
14:10:25 PEOPLE TO BE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO
14:10:28 DO.
14:10:29 THIS IS A VERY, VERY, VERY HARSH TIME WITH OUR WORKFORCE.
14:10:36 PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE.
14:10:38 HOW DO THEY GET THAT IS THROUGH TRAINING, TO LEARN TO BE ON
14:10:41 THEIR OWN, TO BRING BACK THAT LOWER CLASS, UPPER MIDDLE
14:10:46 CLASS TO WHERE THEY CAN SURVIVE.
14:10:47 THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MANY, MANY MOONS
14:10:51 AGO, YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO COLLEGE.
14:10:53 GOT TO GO TO COLLEGE TO BE SOMEBODY.
14:10:55 WE GOT RID OF ALL OUR TRAINING PROGRAMS IN SCHOOLS.
14:10:58 AND THAT HURT THE WORKFORCE.
14:11:00 I UNDERSTAND LAWSUITS.
14:11:03 AND MR. DINGFELDER MAKES A POINT, A LOT OF TIMES, WE HAVE
14:11:06 OUR CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
14:11:07 THEY DON'T LIKE LAWSUITS BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO FIGHT
14:11:10 LAWSUITS SOMETIMES.
14:11:11 AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
14:11:13 I'M GLAD MS. ZELMAN IS DOING A LOT OF HARD WORK.
14:11:16 SHE DOES A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR US, AND I
14:11:18 APPRECIATE HER WORK ALL THE TIME.
14:11:20 I'M GLAD SHE WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE BROWARD MODELS
14:11:23 BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MY GOOD FRIEND, DALE
14:11:27 HOLNESS, WHO WAS THE MAYOR OF BROWARD COUNTY.
14:11:29 WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THEIR EBO PROGRAM,
14:11:32 DIVERSITY PROGRAMS, A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE NOT
14:11:35 GOTTEN THERE YET, BUT I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF THEIR
14:11:37 DIFFERENT ORDINANCES THEY HAVE IN PLACE.
14:11:40 I'M GLAD MS. ZELMAN DID LOOK AT THEIR ORDINANCE DOWN THERE
14:11:43 IN BROWARD.
14:11:44 WE TALK ABOUT ST. PETE.
14:11:46 TAMPA IS THE LEADER.
14:11:47 I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS.
14:11:49 SOMETIMES YOU SEE ST. PETE HAS TAKEN A STEP BEFORE US.
14:11:52 WE'RE THE MAJOR CITY.
14:11:53 THE MAJOR HUB.
14:11:57 SO WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER WITH EVERYBODY, BUT WE NEED
14:11:59 TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LEADING THE WAY ALL THE TIME.
14:12:03 I AGREE, AND I TALKED TO MS. ZELMAN WHEN WE HAD OUR
14:12:09 CONVERSATION AND MR. BAIRD WHEN WE TALKED ON TUESDAY IN
14:12:11 REFERENCE TO HOW I FELT.
14:12:13 COUNCIL KNOWS HOW I FEEL ABOUT GOOD FAITH.
14:12:17 THOSE ARE UGLY BUZZ WORDS THAT I CAN'T STAND.
14:12:19 IT GIVES A PERCEPTION OF, WELL, IF I HAD A MILLION DOLLARS
14:12:25 AND I GOT SIX OF MY COLLEAGUES, I GIVE EACH OF THEM $50,
14:12:30 THAT WAS GOOD FAITH.
14:12:31 THAT WAS GOOD FAITH.
14:12:34 MS. ZELMAN, DID I GO BACK AND I LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE
14:12:39 AGAIN.
14:12:39 I LOOKED AT WHAT YOU WROTE DOWN.
14:12:41 I'M HAPPY WITH IT.
14:12:43 I WISH WE COULD STREAM IT A LITTLE MORE.
14:12:45 I'M HAPPY THAT WE HAVE A CHECKS AND BALANCE SYSTEM WITH THAT
14:12:49 GOOD FAITH.
14:12:50 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT NO ONE GETS AROUND.
14:12:53 BUT, AGAIN, HAVING OVERSIGHT AS WELL THAT MR. CITRO TALKED
14:12:57 ABOUT AS WELL, THAT IS KEY TO ANY OF OUR PROJECTS.
14:13:00 ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OR ANY OF OUR ORDINANCES
14:13:02 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT.
14:13:05 OUR EBO PROGRAMS, WORK ON OVERSIGHT.
14:13:10 IF PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT, THEY'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.
14:13:13 POINT-BLANK, PERIOD.
14:13:15 WE GOT TO KIND OF CLOSE THE DOOR A LITTLE BIT.
14:13:16 SOMEONE IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A SCHEME, BUT WE'VE GOT TO
14:13:18 BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE SCHEME UP A LITTLE BIT.
14:13:20 THE 15 TO 12 PERCENT, ST. PETE IS LEADING THE WAY ON THAT.
14:13:27 I CAN LITTLE COMPROMISE ON THAT.
14:13:29 AGAIN, MS. ZELMAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXTRAORDINARY.
14:13:32 I LIKE THE WORD EMERGENCY THAT MR. DINGFELDER DID PUT IN
14:13:36 THERE.
14:13:36 AGAIN, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO LOOK -- DEFINE EMERGENCY
14:13:39 BECAUSE, AGAIN, DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS COULD HAVE A
14:13:41 DIFFERENT EMERGENCY.
14:13:42 YOU HAVE A PIPE THAT BREAKS RIGHT AWAY, MAYBE NOT GET THE
14:13:47 WORKFORCE GOING BUT HAVE THIS COMPANY THAT CAN DO WHATEVER.
14:13:50 I UNDERSTAND AND CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
14:13:52 THE EMERGENCY CAN SIT WITH ME.
14:13:54 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WE'VE GOT CLEAR
14:14:00 OVERSIGHT, AND THAT WE TALK ABOUT GOOD FAITH, THAT WE'RE
14:14:05 EXHAUSTING ALL MEANS AND MEASURES.
14:14:08 SCHOOL DISTRICT.
14:14:08 WE MAY NEED TO REACH OUT TO THEM AS WELL TO MAKE SURE SOME
14:14:11 OF THE KIDS ARE SHIPPED INTO SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS, THAT
14:14:13 THEY KNOW ABOUT -- I SAID FROM DAY ONE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT
14:14:19 IS OUR HUB.
14:14:19 THE SCHOOL DISTRICT KNOW EVERY DOGGONE PROGRAM OR EVERY TYPE
14:14:23 OF JOB THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS IN ITS WORKFORCE.
14:14:26 THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SHOULD HAVE THAT TO WHERE THEY KNOW IF WE
14:14:30 HAVE THIS TYPE OF WORK, THAT TYPE OF WORK, THEY CAN SAY,
14:14:33 WELL, WE MAY NOT HAVE IT BUT WE CAN SEND YOU SOMEWHERE WHERE
14:14:37 YOU CAN GET THE TRAINING.
14:14:38 PERIOD.
14:14:38 PERIOD.
14:14:39 THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS OUR HUB.
14:14:41 I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I WENT TO A SCHOOL WITH VOCATIONAL
14:14:43 TRAINING.
14:14:44 MOST OF OUR SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE THAT.
14:14:47 A LOT OF TIMES A LOT OF THEM CAN'T GET INTO TAMPA BAY TECH.
14:14:52 THAT'S REALLY OUR HUB FOR VOCATIONAL TRAINING, TAMPA BAY
14:14:55 TECH, AND A LOT OF KIDS CAN'T GET IN THERE, MAYBE BECAUSE
14:14:58 THE C GRADE POINT AVERAGE.
14:15:01 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONE UP TO A B, FEW NUMBER OF KIDS WHO
14:15:04 DO WANT TO GET IN THERE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF WORKFORCE JOB
14:15:09 TO GO OUT AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESS.
14:15:12 THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT WHEN TALKING ABOUT APPRENTICESHIP,
14:15:14 NOT WORKING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, GETTING TRAINING TO BE ABLE
14:15:16 TO WORK FOR YOURSELF.
14:15:17 BOTTOM LINE.
14:15:18 I UNDERSTAND MY BABY BROTHER, WE GOT HIM STRAIGHT.
14:15:22 WE HAVE A FAMILY BUSINESS.
14:15:23 HE LEARNED THROUGH AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, OTHER FUNERAL
14:15:27 HOMES.
14:15:27 LET MY LITTLE BROTHER GO THERE ALL THE TIME.
14:15:30 MY BROTHER LEARNED A KNACK FOR THE FUNERAL INDUSTRY.
14:15:35 I UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO SEEM THEY DON'T
14:15:38 HAVE AN OUT, TO GIVE THEM AN OUT, TO GIVE THEM AN
14:15:41 OPPORTUNITY.
14:15:41 I KNOW SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO AGREE ALL THE
14:15:45 TIME, BUT I ALWAYS TELL STAFF, NEVER SAY WHAT YOU CAN'T DO
14:15:49 BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO.
14:15:51 AND I KNOW THAT ABC AND THE OTHER LABOR UNIONS HAVE A FEW
14:15:56 DIFFERENCES.
14:15:57 AGAIN, IS IT THE GOOD OF EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL
14:16:00 SUCCESSFUL AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SUCCESSFUL TO BE ABLE TO
14:16:04 BE ENTREPRENEURS AND GET A TRADE SO THEY CAN BUILD THEIR
14:16:07 FAMILIES.
14:16:07 I THINK THAT IS THE GIST THAT EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR.
14:16:10 WE CAN AGREE TO -- BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME COMPROMISES,
14:16:14 AT LEAST SEE HOW THIS WORKS.
14:16:17 BUT, AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT EVERYTHING IN.
14:16:20 HORIZONTAL.
14:16:21 I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SAYING WE HAVE A TIME FRAME TO WORK
14:16:23 THAT IN, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE NOW.
14:16:26 WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT ON THAT.
14:16:27 EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE INCLUSIVE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
14:16:31 AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I
14:16:34 YIELD BACK, SIR.
14:16:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:16:36 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
14:16:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:16:38 YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS AGO, AND I'M SURE MIGHT STILL HAVE THIS
14:16:42 IN HIGH SCHOOL, A PROGRAM CALLED DCFT, ALTHOUGH IT WASN'T IN
14:16:48 THIS FORM BUT REALLY TO HELP KIDS AT THAT TIME A LITTLE
14:16:50 DIFFERENT THAN THIS WHERE YOU GO OUT TO WORK, GO TO SCHOOL
14:16:54 UNTIL 1:00 AND THEN TO WORK FROM 1 TO 5 OR 1 TO 6, WHATEVER
14:16:58 IT WAS AND YOU COULD MAKE A FEW BUCKS SO YOU COULD HELP NOT
14:17:01 ONLY YOURSELF BUT YOUR FAMILY.
14:17:02 THAT WAS BACK IN THE '50s.
14:17:04 LATER ON IN THE '60s, THE GOVERNMENT CAME UP WITH A
14:17:06 PROGRAM, THE FEDS CALLED IT -- TECHNICAL SCHOOL ON THE
14:17:11 SCHOOL THAT WAS AT THE TIME BUFFALO, NOW MLK AND NEBRASKA,
14:17:15 RIGHT CLOSE THERE.
14:17:16 AND FROM THERE, IT BECAME -- TECHNICAL SCHOOL ON
14:17:21 HILLSBOROUGH AND 22nd STREET.
14:17:22 THAT BECAME A MUCH BROADER FORUM AND CERTAINLY BETTER ADVICE
14:17:27 TO THE KIDS AND THEY HAD A CHANCE TO LEARN MANY, MANY
14:17:32 SKILLS.
14:17:32 COLLEGE IS NOT FOR EVERYONE AND I DON'T MEAN JUST BECAUSE OF
14:17:35 GRADE-WISE.
14:17:36 IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT PERSON, HE OR SHE WANTS TO DO WITH
14:17:39 THEIR LIFE THAT DETERMINES HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT.
14:17:42 WHAT WE DO HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY IS SHORTAGE OF
14:17:44 KNOWLEDGEABLE, SKILLED WORKERS.
14:17:46 AND IN PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, STEELWORKERS, ELECTRICAL, EVEN
14:17:51 IN PAINTING, AND, YES, YOU HAVE MECHANICS.
14:17:54 YOU HAVE BODY REPAIR.
14:17:55 YOU HAVE AIR-CONDITION INDIVIDUALS, TECH MISSIONS AND OWNERS
14:17:59 AND THIS IS HOW YOU UPSTART SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT SOME
14:18:03 INDIVIDUAL HAS GOT THE FORESIGHT AND THE TENACITY TO KEEP
14:18:08 GOING FORWARD AND START THEIR OWN BUSINESS MAY START.
14:18:11 I'M NOT AGAINST ANYTHING THAT I SEE HERE.
14:18:13 I DO WANT TO HAVE SOME CLARITY HERE LATER ON AS TO WHAT
14:18:17 THESE CONDITIONS ARE.
14:18:18 YOU DON'T LEAVE ANYTHING LIKE SAYING NECESSITY OR WHATEVER
14:18:21 THE WORD IS OVER HERE, THE TERM IS THE EMERGENCY, WELL, WHAT
14:18:27 IS THE EMERGENCY?
14:18:28 AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT SHOULD BE CLEARED UP.
14:18:32 IN FACT, THE CITY OF TAMPA TWICE HAS TRIED TO HAVE THEIR OWN
14:18:36 PROGRAM WITH A SCHOOL SYSTEM.
14:18:38 MR. BRAD BAIRD AND I WAS PART OF THE STUDY ALONG WITH
14:18:41 MR. CONA.
14:18:42 THE PROBLEM WAS THAT EVERY TIME WE GOT CLOSE, THEY CHANGED
14:18:46 THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
14:18:48 SO WE HAD TO BACK OFF.
14:18:50 NOW WE'RE READY, COMING ON THE SECOND, THIRD ADMINISTRATOR,
14:18:53 AND WE WERE GOING TO START A PROGRAM IN BOTH WATER AND
14:18:56 TERTIARY TREATMENT PLANT.
14:18:58 WHY?
14:18:59 VERY SIMPLE.
14:19:00 WE REALIZE THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WANTED
14:19:03 TO LEARN A GOOD TRADE.
14:19:04 AND WE REALIZED THAT OUR AGING EMPLOYEES -- AND I DON'T MEAN
14:19:09 AGING BY 70, 80, 90 YEARS OLD.
14:19:12 THEY WERE 55 OR 60.
14:19:14 THEY HAD MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS LEFT AND THEY WERE GOING
14:19:16 TO RETIRE, HOW WERE WE GOING TO REPLACE THEM?
14:19:18 THE ONLY WAY YOU REPLACE PEOPLE IN THE WATER SYSTEM,
14:19:22 TERTIARY TREATMENT PLANT IS BY GOING OUT AND GETTING THEM
14:19:25 FROM ANOTHER JURISDICTION THAT DOES THE SAME THING THAT
14:19:28 YOU'RE DOING.
14:19:29 AND, THEREFORE, THAT WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO.
14:19:31 SO WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PAST ADMINISTRATION AND
14:19:35 THIS ONE.
14:19:35 WE STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN UP.
14:19:37 WE WANT THIS SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION AND SYSTEM TO SETTLE DOWN
14:19:41 SO WE CAN TALK TO THEM AGAIN AND MAKE THE ARRANGEMENTS.
14:19:44 I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO HAVE THIS FOR THE
14:19:47 BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, AND THE
14:19:51 CITY WOULD HELP YOU AND AFTER SO MANY MONTHS OR YEARS WITH
14:19:55 THE CITY, GUESS WHAT, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, YOU HAVE
14:20:01 A HELPING HAND AND A FRIEND TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A
14:20:04 COLLEGE DEGREE.
14:20:05 THOSE TREATMENTS OF BOTH WATER AND TERTIARY TREATMENT PLANT
14:20:08 EMPLOYEES ARE VERY TECHNICAL.
14:20:10 IT TAKES A SKILLED WORKER TO DO THAT JOB.
14:20:12 YOU CAN'T WALK IN TODAY AND SAY, HERE I AM AND I'M GOING TO
14:20:15 TAKE OVER AND DO WHATEVER, THE PERSON I LEFT THAT JOB, I
14:20:19 WANT TO TAKE OVER HIS OR HER SLOT.
14:20:21 SO, THEREFORE, I SEE A NEED.
14:20:24 IF YOU GO OUT TODAY AND TRY TO FIND YOURSELF A CARPENTER TO
14:20:27 COME DO SOMETHING AT YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG
14:20:30 WAIT.
14:20:32 PLUMBING COMPANIES HAVE 24-HOUR SERVICE, OR SO THEY SAY.
14:20:38 IT'S SKILLED WORKERS THAT MAKE THIS COUNTRY MOVE, AND
14:20:44 INCLUDING -- THE TECHNICAL SCHOOL TO ME IS ONE OF THE BEST
14:20:47 THINGS EDUCATION HAS COME UP WITH BECAUSE IT GIVES AN
14:20:51 INDIVIDUAL A TIME AND FRAME OF WHAT HE OR SHE WANTS TO DO IN
14:20:54 LIFE.
14:20:55 MAYBE THEY WEREN'T PREPARED TO GO TO COLLEGE WHEN THEY
14:20:58 GRADUATED 17 OR 18 YEARS OLD.
14:20:59 NOW THEY ARE 20-PLUS YEARS OLD AND THEY SEE A LIGHT THAT
14:21:03 TELLS THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BUT YOU
14:21:06 BETTER DO SOMETHING MORE AGGRESSIVE FOR YOUR FAMILY THAN
14:21:08 WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
14:21:09 IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO COLLEGE.
14:21:12 AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SEE ABOUT PROGRAMS LIKE
14:21:14 THIS.
14:21:15 THEY MAY START, THE INDIVIDUALS MAY BE HIRED.
14:21:19 GUESS WHAT, MAYBE THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
14:21:21 WELL, I'M NOT AGAINST THAT INDIVIDUAL.
14:21:22 AT LEAST THEY TRIED, BUT MAYBE THEY LIKE SOMETHING ELSE.
14:21:26 YOU CANNOT BE SUCCESSFUL, GO TO WORK ON SOMETHING YOU DO NOT
14:21:30 LIKE.
14:21:30 YOU WOULD BE MISERABLE, YOUR FAMILY WOULD BE MISERABLE AND
14:21:33 YOUR EMPLOYER IS GOING TO BE MISERABLE.
14:21:35 SO THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO
14:21:38 AND HOW THEY WANT TO DO IT.
14:21:40 A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, THEY CALL IT AN INTERNSHIP OR WHATEVER
14:21:44 YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IT GIVES THE INDIVIDUALS TIME TO
14:21:47 REALIZE WHAT HE OR SHE WANTS TO DO WITH THE REST OF THEIR
14:21:50 LIFE, WHICH IS REALLY A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO BECAUSE
14:21:53 AT AN EARLY AGE, YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU REALLY
14:21:57 WANT TO DO.
14:21:58 I'M HERE FOR LISTENING TO SEE WHAT CONSENSUS WE CAN COME UP
14:22:01 TO IMPLEMENT SOME TYPE OF A PROGRAM.
14:22:03 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
14:22:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:22:05 BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, HE HAD A QUESTION.
14:22:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APOLOGIZE.
14:22:12 I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER.
14:22:14 SOMEBODY ASKED A QUESTION UP AT THE PODIUM.
14:22:17 THEY SAID, WELL, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE CITY DOES THIS.
14:22:22 MAYBE THE CITY SHOULD DO IT BEFORE THEY THROW IT OUT IN THE
14:22:26 COMMUNITY, WHATEVER.
14:22:27 I SAID TO MYSELF THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT.
14:22:29 I THINK WE DO ACTUALLY DO IT.
14:22:31 MR. BAIRD, YOU'RE THE SENIOR ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS REMAINING
14:22:34 HERE TODAY.
14:22:35 I'M FAMILIAR PERSONALLY WITH -- I THINK IT'S THE PARKS AND
14:22:41 REC OR THE CLEAN STREETS PEOPLE, THEY HIRE KIDS IN THE
14:22:45 SUMMER --
14:22:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY HAVE A SUMMER PROGRAM.
14:22:48 AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY HIRED TWO OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
14:22:52 SAL RUGGIERO HIRED A YOUNG MAN.
14:22:56 WORKED REALLY HARD.
14:22:57 HE FILLED OUT AN APPLICATION AND REMEMBER HIS WORK ETHIC.
14:23:04 WE'RE DOING THAT WITH YOUNGER ADULTS IN EAST TAMPA.
14:23:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S AN EXAMPLE IN THE PARKS AND REC
14:23:10 AND CRA AND THAT SORT OF THING.
14:23:12 BRAD, I THINK YOU GUYS ALSO DO THAT IN SOME OF YOUR
14:23:16 DEPARTMENTS.
14:23:16 >>BRAD BAIRD: WE DO.
14:23:17 BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
14:23:22 ACTUALLY, THE CITY IN SEVERAL WAYS, IT HAS BEEN WAY AHEAD IN
14:23:27 THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AREA, IN SEVERAL AREAS, SPEAK TO
14:23:32 REALLY QUICKLY.
14:23:34 FIRST, FOR WELL OVER 40 YEARS, WE HAVE HAD CO-OPS IN SEVERAL
14:23:40 OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
14:23:44 MOBILITY, WATER, WASTEWATER, AND THESE ARE ENGINEERING
14:23:47 CO-OPS THAT CAN WORK FOR AS MUCH AS FOUR YEARS, ONE SEMESTER
14:23:53 ON, ONE SEMESTER OFF.
14:23:54 WE ALSO HAVE LABORATORY CO-OPS IN BOTH OF THE WATER
14:23:59 LABORATORIES AND WASTEWATER LABORATORIES.
14:24:02 IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.
14:24:06 WE ALSO, OF COURSE, HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED.
14:24:10 TWO OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE S.T.E.M. PROGRAM IN PROVIDING
14:24:13 MENTORING AND SUPPORT IN THE S.T.E.M. PROGRAM WITH
14:24:17 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS.
14:24:21 ONE I'M MOST PROUD OF, AND SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR 20
14:24:26 YEARS NOW, THROUGH OUR OPTIMIZATION PROGRAMS BACK IN THE
14:24:28 EARLY 2000s, IN LATE 1990s, WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE WHAT'S
14:24:34 CALLED A SKILLS-BASED MATRIX.
14:24:37 IT'S A PROGRAM WHERE WE HIRE TRAINEES.
14:24:43 THEY COME IN AND THEY GAIN SKILLS, AND THEY CAN WORK THEIR
14:24:45 WAY UP IN THE MATRIX AT THEIR OWN PACE, AND THIS HAS BEEN
14:24:52 PUT IN PLACE IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT, IN WASTEWATER
14:24:55 TREATMENT PLANT, WASTEWATER COLLECTIONS AND THEN STORMWATER
14:24:58 AND TRANSPORTATION PARTS OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
14:25:03 IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
14:25:05 IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE ORGANIZATION, AND IT'S A GOOD
14:25:08 THING FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO BE ABLE TO GAIN THOSE SKILLS.
14:25:12 WE HAVE BEEN WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON THAT COMPARED TO
14:25:17 MUNICIPALITIES AND PUBLIC ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED
14:25:19 STATES.
14:25:21 FINALLY, COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU MENTIONED PARKS AND
14:25:23 RECREATION.
14:25:24 WE CERTAINLY HAVE SUMMER STUDENTS EVERY YEAR THAT ARE IN REC
14:25:28 CENTERS.
14:25:28 THIS IS A LITTLE OUT OF MY AREA.
14:25:31 LIFEGUARDS, REFEREES, OF COURSE.
14:25:33 AND THEN FINALLY, AT SOME OF THE HIGHER LEVELS, WE, ON THEIR
14:25:41 OWN, OR THROUGH BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS, WE HAVE
14:25:44 MENTORING PROGRAMS THAT CITY EMPLOYEES DO ON THEIR OWN.
14:25:50 AND THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AS WELL.
14:25:53 I THINK THE CITY DOES A LOT IN THIS AREA.
14:25:57 I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH.
14:26:01 THANK YOU.
14:26:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, BRAD.
14:26:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
14:26:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRAD, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THESE TYPE OF
14:26:11 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
14:26:14 THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS THAT WERE BROUGHT TODAY ARE THE
14:26:18 PLUMBERS, THE ELECTRICIANS, THE CARPENTERS.
14:26:22 DO WE HAVE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS IN THOSE FIELDS, WELDERS,
14:26:26 THOSE TYPE OF THINGS?
14:26:28 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
14:26:29 THE SKILL-BASED MATRIX PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED, IN THOSE
14:26:38 DEPARTMENTS THAT I MENTIONED, THEY HAVE CAREER PATHS IN
14:26:43 OPERATORS, IN ELECTRICIANS, MECHANICS, AND STAND-BY POWER.
14:26:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THOSE CAREER PATHS, ARE THEY ACTUALLY
14:26:54 HANDS-ON PHYSICAL WORK FOR THESE ELECTRICIANS, THESE
14:26:57 CARPENTERS, THESE PLUMBERS, THESE WELDERS?
14:27:00 >>BRAD BAIRD: YEAH, SO WE DON'T HAVE IT IN WELDERS OR
14:27:02 PLUMBERS.
14:27:03 THESE ARE SKILL-BASED MATRIX IN WATER, WASTEWATER, AND
14:27:08 MOBILITY DEPARTMENTS.
14:27:11 AGAIN, THEY CAN WORK THEIR WAY UP.
14:27:16 FOR INSTANCE, IN WASTEWATER COLLECTION, THEY CAN LEARN --
14:27:19 YOU KNOW, THEY START AT A TRAINEE LEVEL AND THEY LEARN THE
14:27:25 BASIC SAFETY SKILLS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
14:27:28 THROUGH BOTH CLASSROOM TRAINING AND HANDS-ON, THEY WILL GO
14:27:33 TO THE NEXT LEVEL OR A TECHNICIAN ONE LEVEL, LEARN THE
14:27:37 SKILLS, DEMONSTRATE THE SKILLS.
14:27:39 SIGN OFF ON THEM AND THEN THEY ARE ABLE TO BE PROMOTED AND
14:27:45 THEN USE IN THAT ORGANIZATION TO ACCOMPLISH MORE AND BE MUCH
14:27:50 MORE EFFICIENT.
14:27:51 SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE NEEDS, AND WE ALSO
14:27:56 FOCUS IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST
14:28:00 NEEDS IS WHERE WE PROVIDE THE TRAINING FIRST SO THAT IT
14:28:04 BENEFITS NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYEE, BUT IT BENEFITS THE
14:28:08 DEPARTMENT.
14:28:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRAD, I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND COMBATIVE, BUT
14:28:14 THE SAME THING THIS ORDINANCE IS ASKING FOR, THE CITY OF
14:28:16 TAMPA ALREADY HAS APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS WITH THE SAME
14:28:19 THING THIS ORDINANCE IS ASKING FOR?
14:28:21 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, BUT NOT IN THE VERTICAL AREAS, THE
14:28:25 PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL.
14:28:26 WE DO IN ELECTRICAL, BUT IT'S MORE GEARED TOWARD THE
14:28:30 WASTEWATER AND WATER TREATMENT PLANTS.
14:28:31 IT'S NOT TOWARD THE VERTICAL BUILDING.
14:28:34 SO THIS WOULD BE COMPLEMENTARY, IF YOU WILL.
14:28:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRAD.
14:28:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:28:41 I THINK EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED TO SAY HAS BEEN SAID,
14:28:44 ESPECIALLY BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WHO TOUCHED ON SO MANY
14:28:47 DIFFERENT AREAS AND TOPICS.
14:28:48 WHEN WE CAMPAIGN, PEOPLE ASK US, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO
14:28:53 ABOUT JOBS?
14:28:54 WE'RE NOT JOB CREATORS.
14:28:55 YOU KNOW, WE SIT HERE AND WE'LL PASS AN ORDINANCE, WE'LL
14:28:57 REZONE A PROPERTY, WE'LL PASS THE AGENDA OR WE'LL GET YELLED
14:29:02 AT.
14:29:03 BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROMOTE
14:29:07 CAREERS, JOBS, AND OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
14:29:12 AND IT'S SKILLS LIKE THIS APPRENTICESHIPS LIKE THIS.
14:29:14 NOT EVERYBODY GOES -- AS COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SAYS,
14:29:18 COLLEGE ISN'T FOR EVERYBODY AND NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO
14:29:20 COLLEGE, AND THERE ARE SO MANY STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT
14:29:23 DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
14:29:26 I'VE MET MANY OF THEM.
14:29:28 I'VE BEEN ONE OF THEM MYSELF.
14:29:30 BUT WHEN YOU TEACH SOMEBODY A SKILL, NO MATTER WHERE THEY
14:29:33 GO, NO ONE CAN TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM.
14:29:35 IT'S JUST LIKE AN EDUCATION.
14:29:36 AND WHEN YOU TEACH OR LEARN A SKILL, WHETHER IT'S PLUMBING
14:29:42 OR WELDING, SHEET METAL WORK, WHATEVER IT IS, THERE ARE
14:29:46 ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
14:29:49 WHEN WE HEAR THE PHRASE "THE FABULOUS 50s," WE ASK, WELL,
14:29:54 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
14:29:55 IT'S THAT WORLD WAR II GENERATION THAT CLIMBED OUT OF A
14:29:58 GREAT DEPRESSION, SAVED THE WORLD, ESSENTIALLY, AND THEN
14:30:01 THEY WENT TO WORK IF THERE WAS WORK.
14:30:02 AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE WORLD WAR II GENERATION
14:30:05 THAT I'VE MET WERE THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE UNION GUYS.
14:30:09 UNION MEMBERSHIPS IN THE 1950s WERE AT THE HIGHEST OF ALL
14:30:12 TIME I BELIEVE IN THE 20th CENTURY.
14:30:14 AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE PEOPLE?
14:30:15 THEY BOUGHT A HOME.
14:30:17 THEY RAISED A FAMILY.
14:30:18 THEY OWNED AN AUTOMOBILE.
14:30:20 THEY PUT THEIR KIDS, MANY OF THEM THAT I KNOW THROUGH
14:30:22 PRIVATE SCHOOL.
14:30:23 THEY GAVE THEM BETTER EDUCATION.
14:30:24 AND THEY HAD A RETIREMENT AND THEY HAD HEALTH CARE.
14:30:28 THEY HAD WHAT I CALL THE AMERICAN DREAM.
14:30:31 AGAIN, WHEN WE GET ASKED, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT
14:30:33 JOBS?
14:30:34 WHAT WILL YOU DO ABOUT IMPOVERISHED AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY?
14:30:38 HOW WILL YOU LIFT PEOPLE UP?
14:30:40 HOW DO HELP LIFT THEM BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS?
14:30:43 ON AND ON AND ON.
14:30:44 AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT'S WHY I ADMIRE FOLKS
14:30:49 THAT ARE THERE DOING ALL THESE PROFESSIONS BECAUSE THOSE ARE
14:30:52 THE PEOPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT WPA PROJECTS OF THE 1930s, IT
14:30:55 WAS PEOPLE THERE, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, BLOOD,
14:30:59 SWEAT, AND TEARS.
14:31:00 RECENTLY, I WENT TO THE HOOVER DAM.
14:31:04 THE STORY OF THE HOOVER DAM.
14:31:05 IF YOU TRAVEL AROUND TAMPA, THERE ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE
14:31:07 MARKED WPA PROJECTS.
14:31:11 WHAT DID THESE PEOPLE DO?
14:31:13 THEY HAD SKILLED LABOR, MANY UNION FOLKS AND WHATNOT, BUT
14:31:17 THEY HAD THE -- THEY WERE ABLE TO GRASP THE AMERICAN DREAM.
14:31:20 AND WHEN -- I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG
14:31:23 WITH IT, THAT THEY COME OUT OF SCHOOL WITH A TON OF STUDENT
14:31:26 LOAN DEBT, AND THAT'S FINE AND IT'S OKAY.
14:31:29 BUT I ALSO MEET PEOPLE THAT ARE 23, 24, 25 YEARS OLD WITH NO
14:31:34 STUDENT LOAN DEBT, AND THEY ARE EARNING DECENT SALARIES, AND
14:31:38 THEY ARE BUYING THEIR FIRST HOMES WHILE SOME OF THEIR
14:31:42 FRIENDS ARE COMING OUT OF COLLEGE OR WHATEVER.
14:31:44 WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SURE, IS IT CONTROVERSIAL?
14:31:47 SURE.
14:31:47 ARE THERE ISSUES?
14:31:48 SURE.
14:31:48 THERE ARE LAWSUITS.
14:31:50 AS EVERYTHING IS, THERE'S ALWAYS THE THREAT OF THE ATTORNEY.
14:31:52 BUT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, IS IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
14:31:55 I THINK IF IT'S CRAFTED PROPERLY AND I LIKE WHAT COUNCIL
14:31:57 MEMBER VIERA BROUGHT UP AND COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, I
14:32:00 THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND HELP LIFT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN
14:32:03 POVERTY OR PEOPLE THAT ARE CHASING THAT AMERICAN DREAM AND
14:32:07 TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN HAVE A BRIGHTER AND
14:32:10 BETTER FUTURE.
14:32:10 SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
14:32:13 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
14:32:16 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:32:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, JUST BRIEFLY.
14:32:19 I WON'T REPEAT WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID BUT I THINK
14:32:22 APPRENTICESHIPS ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
14:32:23 AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR SUPPORTING THEM.
14:32:26 THEY ARE IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY.
14:32:27 THEY ARE IMPORTANT FOR INDIVIDUAL ECONOMIC ADVANCEMENT AND
14:32:31 IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THANKS TO THE
14:32:34 INDUSTRY, THANKS TO ALL THE LABOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT INVEST
14:32:37 SO MUCH TIME AND MONEY.
14:32:38 IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE THAT
14:32:42 APPRENTICESHIPS ARE IMPORTANT.
14:32:44 THANKS EVERYBODY FOR DOING THAT.
14:32:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
14:32:47 COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I KNOW YOU HAD SOME MOTIONS.
14:32:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AS WELL.
14:32:54 DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING OR NOW?
14:32:57 >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT IF WE DO IT NOW.
14:32:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
14:33:00 WE HAD THE DISCUSSION.
14:33:01 >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY FAST, ALSO THE VALUES AND A LOT OF
14:33:03 PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT WORK AND EMPOWERMENT.
14:33:05 YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT REGULATION, AND A LOT
14:33:08 OF PEOPLE LOOK AT GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS, AND THEY GO,
14:33:12 THAT'S AWFUL.
14:33:13 TO ME, THE VALUES BEHIND THIS I THINK ARE NEARLY UNANIMOUSLY
14:33:18 SUPPORTED IN TERMS OF EMPOWERING PEOPLE.
14:33:21 IN TERMS OF MEETINGS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
14:33:24 CONTINUE TO MEET WITH LABOR, WITH ABC, WITH DIFFERENT
14:33:27 COMMUNITIES TO HEAR FOLKS OUT.
14:33:29 I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH THE BOARD OF ABC,
14:33:32 FOR EXAMPLE, OR STAKEHOLDERS, ET CETERA.
14:33:34 MY LATE FATHER WAS A CONTRACTOR.
14:33:35 HE WAS A CONTRACTOR AND A BUILDER AND DID A LOT OF WORK WITH
14:33:39 GOVERNMENT.
14:33:40 SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.
14:33:43 BUT I WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK MOTION HERE, IF I MAY.
14:33:45 MAYBE NOT QUICK.
14:33:46 FIRST, I REQUEST THAT THIS ORDINANCE SPECIFY THAT GOOD FAITH
14:33:52 EFFORTS INCLUDE CONSULTATION ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER
14:33:56 STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THEIR ORGANIZED LABOR.
14:33:58 SECOND, THAT HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION BE INCLUDED IN ONE FORM
14:34:02 OR ANOTHER IN A TIMELINE THAT IS SELF-IMPLEMENTING.
14:34:05 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS,
14:34:10 I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR THEM AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS
14:34:13 WELL.
14:34:13 BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THIS COMES BACK, I JUST WANT THERE TO
14:34:16 BE A DISCUSSION ON THAT TIMELINE.
14:34:17 I WOULD HATE TO HAVE LIKE A STRICT TIMELINE AT THIS POINT.
14:34:21 I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO
14:34:24 MANY ISSUES WITH STAFF, ET CETERA.
14:34:27 THIRD, THAT FOR THE FIRST YEAR AFTER PASSAGE, COUNCIL IS
14:34:30 BRIEFED TWICE IN THIS ORDINANCE, INCLUDING HOW MANY
14:34:32 PROJECTS -- AND, ANDREA, WE CAN SEND THIS TO YOU --
14:34:35 INCLUDING HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE A PART OF THIS, THE NUMBER
14:34:37 OF APPRENTICESHIPS FROM THE PROJECTS, COMPLIANCE CHALLENGES
14:34:40 FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, SUGGESTIONS ON REFORMS AND HOW
14:34:43 TO MAKE IT BETTER, ET CETERA.
14:34:45 AND AFTER THE FIRST YEAR THIS BECOMES ANNUAL.
14:34:48 LASTLY, THAT THE ADMINISTRATION REPORT STAFF IN THEIR
14:34:52 ADMINISTRATION REPORTS, STAFF SHOULD SHARE THE NUMBER OF
14:34:55 APPRENTICESHIP OUTREACH EFFORTS UNDERTAKEN BY THE
14:34:57 ADMINISTRATION TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS ACCESS TO THESE
14:34:59 PROGRAMS FOR ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF RACE, GENDER,
14:35:02 ET CETERA.
14:35:02 AND FURTHER THAT WE INCLUDE REPORTING ON THE OUTREACH CENTER
14:35:06 -- OUTREACH EFFORTS BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
14:35:09 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I'LL LET YOU GO OVER YOUR PROPOSED
14:35:12 CHANGES TO THAT.
14:35:13 I WOULD SAY WITH REGARDS TO THE 15 TO 12 PERCENT, MY ONLY
14:35:16 CHALLENGE TO THAT IS THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION
14:35:22 BETWEEN NOW WHEN IT COMES BACK.
14:35:24 BUT THE 12th PERCENT MADE AS PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT
14:35:27 ENDED IN AN IMPASSE BUT STILL THE NEGOTIATIONS AND I'D HATE
14:35:31 TO GO BACK ON THAT NUMBER.
14:35:33 THAT'S MY THOUGHTS AS BEING A PERSON WHO LIKES THE PROGRESS
14:35:37 THAT WE MAYBE STILL HAVE AN IMPASSE, SO TO SPEAK.
14:35:41 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SIR, IF YOU HAD ANY FRIENDLY
14:35:44 AMENDMENTS TO THAT I WELCOME THAT SIR.
14:35:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING, SIR?
14:35:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND MR. VIERA.
14:35:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TALK CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN
14:35:53 HEAR.
14:35:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY.
14:35:55 I'M NOT USUALLY THAT SHY, AM I?
14:35:58 LUIS, DID YOU HIT ON THE EMERGENCY VERSUS EXTRAORDINARY?
14:36:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
14:36:04 YES.
14:36:05 MY APOLOGIES.
14:36:06 THE INCLUSION OF SPECIFICITY AS TO WHAT AN EMERGENCY OR THAT
14:36:11 TERM IS.
14:36:12 THANK YOU, YES, SIR.
14:36:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
14:36:14 I HAD DONE A CLARIFICATION ON 26-214 F 3 B THAT WE DON'T
14:36:25 NEED TO GET INTO DETAIL BUT MAYBE JUST SUGGEST THAT LEGAL
14:36:30 LOOK AT MY ALTERNATIVE.
14:36:33 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BINDING, BUT AT LEAST IF THEY LOOK AT
14:36:36 IT, THIS WILL GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO GO EITHER DIRECTION.
14:36:39 THAT'S ITEM 4 ON MY LIST.
14:36:46 THAT'S WHEN THE MATERIAL COSTS BECOME A BIG PART OF IT AND
14:36:49 MAYBE IT DOESN'T MAKE SO MUCH SENSE ON A SMALLER CONTRACT.
14:36:52 BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S A SMALL ONE IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM
14:36:57 PERMISSION TO LOOK AT THAT.
14:37:01 AND IMPLEMENTATION, LUIS, WHAT WAS YOUR THINKING?
14:37:04 I WAS SAYING MAYBE SIX MONTHS ON THE VERTICAL AND NINE
14:37:09 MONTHS OR 12 MONTHS ON THE HORIZONTAL.
14:37:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULDN'T, PER SE, HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT,
14:37:15 BUT IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION, DELAYS IN TIMES, I WOULD
14:37:18 LIKE FOR STAFF TO COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL TO COME BACK FOR
14:37:22 US.
14:37:22 I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENTS BUT SINCE THEY WILL BE THE ONES
14:37:25 WITH THE CHALLENGES IN SPEAKING WITH LABOR AND SPEAKING WITH
14:37:28 ABC AND THE CONTRIBUTING COMMUNITY, JUST SO THAT THEY COME
14:37:32 UP WITH A NUMBER THAT I THINK REFLECTS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT
14:37:34 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
14:37:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
14:37:36 THE OTHER THING IS -- AND I KNOW YOU PROVIDED SOME
14:37:39 ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON THE REPORTING.
14:37:42 SOME OF IT HITS THE POINTS I MADE AND I HAD A FEW POINTS
14:37:51 THAT WERE, I GUESS, SLIGHTLY ADDITIONS.
14:37:56 I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT LEGAL PERHAPS REVIEW THE
14:37:59 PROPOSALS I HAVE ON REPORTING AND INCLUDE THEM AS THEY SEE
14:38:04 FIT.
14:38:05 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THOSE.
14:38:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, JUST FOR
14:38:09 CLARIFICATION, CAN YOU PROVIDE A COPY OF ALL THAT TO THE
14:38:11 CLERK?
14:38:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL.
14:38:12 IN ADDITION, MS. ZELMAN, WHEN IS THE BEST DATE TO BRING THIS
14:38:16 BACK?
14:38:16 AGAIN, YOU'RE DOING THE WORK.
14:38:18 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOU MENTIONED YOU'D LIKE IT SOONER THAN
14:38:21 JANUARY.
14:38:22 THE PROBLEM IS YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL MEETING IN
14:38:24 DECEMBER, AND I BELIEVE THE SIRE DEADLINE FOR THAT MEETING
14:38:29 IS EITHER THIS FRIDAY OR NEXT MONDAY.
14:38:31 THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT TO GET IT ON THE DECEMBER
14:38:34 17 AGENDA.
14:38:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS
14:38:38 RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE CITY, CITY REPRESENTATIVES, ABC, AND
14:38:43 THAT COMMUNITY, LABOR AND THAT COMMUNITY AND DIFFERENT
14:38:46 COMMUNITIES THAT MAY.
14:38:46 I KNOW ON MONDAY I'M HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH A DIFFERENT
14:38:49 GROUP THAT'S NOT HERE, FOR EXAMPLE.
14:38:51 SO I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR US TO DISCUSS IT.
14:38:54 I WOULD LIKE IT IN JANUARY, SO I ASK YOU, WHEN IS GOOD.
14:39:00 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK WHATEVER YOUR LAST MEETING IN
14:39:02 JANUARY IS.
14:39:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE'S ONLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMAN
14:39:06 VIERA, I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, THE WAY THE CALENDAR
14:39:08 FALLS, THERE'S ONLY ONE REGULAR MEETING IN JANUARY ON THE
14:39:12 14th AND A WORKSHOP MEETING ON THE EQUAL BUSINESS
14:39:14 OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM PRIMARILY ON JANUARY 28th.
14:39:20 AFTER THAT, YOU GO INTO FEBRUARY.
14:39:24 AND THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG -- IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU
14:39:28 ANTICIPATE TAKING LONGER AND SCHEDULING IT FOR, LET'S SAY, A
14:39:32 STAFF REPORT IN THE AFTERNOON OR LIKE THAT?
14:39:35 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FIRST READING.
14:39:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO YOU DON'T WANT IN ADVANCE, TO SEE IT IN
14:39:39 ADVANCE TO MAKE THE DETERMINATIONS AS TO THE TIMELINE.
14:39:42 I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
14:39:44 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR AN ASPIRATIONAL FIRST READING, I GUESS.
14:39:48 WE HAVE FIRST AND SECOND.
14:39:49 IS JANUARY 14th -- AND DISCUSSION.
14:39:52 OH, YEAH, WE CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS.
14:39:54 WE CAN TABLE IT AT THAT TIME.
14:39:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR MOTION IS FOR IT TO COME BACK FOR
14:39:59 FIRST READING.
14:39:59 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE CAN DO THE 14th.
14:40:02 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, THAT'S OUR ASPIRATION TODAY.
14:40:04 IF YOU COME BACK IN A WEEK AFTER TALKING WITH PEOPLE AND YOU
14:40:07 GO, "I NEED ANOTHER TWO WEEKS," LIKE BEFORE, THAT'S FINE.
14:40:11 I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW.
14:40:14 THAT'S ALL.
14:40:15 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE'D LIKE TO GET IT MOVING, TOO.
14:40:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
14:40:21 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:40:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
14:40:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE DATE AGAIN WOULD BE JANUARY 14th FOR
14:40:27 FIRST READING.
14:40:30 THANK YOU.
14:40:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
14:40:34 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
14:40:35 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
14:40:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:40:39 ANY OPPOSED?
14:40:41 ALL RIGHTY.
14:40:43 ANYTHING ELSE?
14:40:44 HEARING NONE, WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 63.
14:40:48 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: OH, ON 63, MARCY HAMILTON HAD SENT YOU --
14:40:55 IT'S A MEMORANDUM AND ATTACHED TO IT SHE HAD A DRAFT
14:40:59 ORDINANCE AND SHE CAUGHT SOME ISSUES WITH THE DRAFT LATE
14:41:01 LAST NIGHT.
14:41:02 SO THIS MORNING SHE GAVE ME A NEW REVISED DRAFT ORDINANCE.
14:41:07 AGAIN, IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
14:41:08 IT'S NOT FOR ADOPTION AT ALL TODAY.
14:41:12 I WANTED, IF I COULD, PASS OUT HER UPDATED DRAFT ORDINANCE.
14:41:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
14:41:17 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: FOR NUMBER 63.
14:41:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHILE IT'S BEING PASSED OUT
14:41:21 --
14:41:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO 64.
14:41:25 DO YOU WANT TO MOVE ON --
14:41:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CAN SPEAK TO 63.
14:41:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
14:41:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS MY MOTION.
14:41:31 TO REFRESH OUR MEMORIES, I HAD TO REFRESH MINE, THE CITY HAD
14:41:38 TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY PURCHASE, AND WE REALIZED AT THE TIME
14:41:42 THAT THERE WAS NO MECHANISM FOR US TO AUTOMATICALLY FIND OUT
14:41:47 ABOUT THOSE EMERGENCY PURCHASES EVEN AFTER THE FACT.
14:41:51 SO THIS SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE VERY SIMPLY MODIFIES SECTION
14:42:00 2-279 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOTIFIED AS QUICKLY THEREAFTER
14:42:11 AFTER THAT EMERGENCY -- AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AFTER THE
14:42:13 EMERGENCY PURCHASE IS MADE.
14:42:14 SO WE RECOGNIZE SOMETIMES ADMINISTRATION, UNDER COVID OR
14:42:19 OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES HAS TO MAKE THAT EMERGENCY PURCHASE.
14:42:22 WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ACCEPT IT, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT
14:42:25 AS QUICKLY THEREAFTER.
14:42:27 AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES.
14:42:29 UNLESS THERE'S OTHER COMMENT ABOUT IT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT
14:42:33 WE PUT IT ON OUR CALENDAR IN JANUARY FOR ADOPTION.
14:42:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
14:42:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, IF
14:42:40 YOU CAN, MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CLERK TO ACCEPT THE
14:42:43 SUBSTITUTE.
14:42:44 THIS WILL BE THE VERSION THAT WILL COME BACK ON FIRST
14:42:46 READING.
14:42:47 IS THAT WHAT YOU WISH?
14:42:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
14:42:50 THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE DRAFT
14:42:53 ORDINANCE AND PUT IT ON FOR FIRST READING.
14:42:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN DO YOU WANT IT?
14:42:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW.
14:42:59 I KNOW OUR CALENDAR IS PRETTY BUSY.
14:43:01 LET'S DO IT IN FEBRUARY, I GUESS.
14:43:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
14:43:03 FEBRUARY, WE HAVE FEBRUARY 4th OR THE 18th AS REGULAR
14:43:06 MEETINGS.
14:43:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S SAY THE 18th.
14:43:10 THERE'S NO EMERGENCY.
14:43:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, HA, HA.
14:43:13 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER FOR FEBRUARY
14:43:16 18.
14:43:17 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
14:43:18 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
14:43:21 ANY DISCUSSION?
14:43:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:43:23 OPPOSED?
14:43:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:43:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU TO MARCY.
14:43:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
14:43:28 ITEM NUMBER 64.
14:43:32 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I HAVE TO ACTUALLY LEAVE
14:43:34 TO PICK UP MY SON.
14:43:36 I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH MY RIDE TODAY -- LONG
14:43:40 STORY.
14:43:41 I HAVE TO PICK UP MY SON.
14:43:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNDERSTAND.
14:43:43 FAMILY FIRST.
14:43:43 FAMILY FIRST.
14:43:44 >>LUIS VIERA: MY APOLOGIES.
14:43:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO PROBLEM.
14:43:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA, THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD
14:43:49 WORK ON THE APPRENTICE ORDINANCE.
14:43:51 MR. CHAIRMAN, 64, AGAIN, WAS MY MOTION.
14:43:55 I'D LIKE TO DEFER THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING
14:44:01 IN JANUARY SO I CAN HAVE MORE TIME TO TALK TO MR. ROGERO
14:44:07 ABOUT IT.
14:44:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE JANUARY 14th UNDER STAFF
14:44:11 REPORTS.
14:44:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FEBRUARY 1st MEETING.
14:44:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 4th.
14:44:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
14:44:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 4th.
14:44:18 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO FEBRUARY 4th.
14:44:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY REQUEST TO STAFF WOULD BE WITH
14:44:25 SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ON THIS.
14:44:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION IS FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
14:44:31 TO FEBRUARY 4th, CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
14:44:33 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
14:44:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:44:36 ANY DISCUSSION?
14:44:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
14:44:38 ANY OPPOSED?
14:44:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
14:44:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:44:43 NEXT UP, MARTIN SHELBY.
14:44:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN HOLD THAT
14:44:49 UNTIL THE END --
14:44:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, 66 AND 67.
14:44:53 THERE WAS A PowerPoint THAT I HAD APPROVED FOR THIS, IF
14:44:56 WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN THAT.
14:44:57 WE SEE IT ON OUR SCREENS.
14:44:59 GO AHEAD, I SEE CATE WELLS HERE.
14:45:04 QUITE A FEW FEMALE.
14:45:05 >>CAROLE POST: THIS IS CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR FOR
14:45:10 DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
14:45:11 AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M JOINED BY ABBYE FEELEY, OUR DIRECTOR FOR
14:45:15 DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS RANDY GOERS OUR
14:45:19 DIRECTOR OF CITY PLANNING AND CATE WELLS, WHO IS ALWAYS OUR
14:45:22 STEADY ATTORNEY AT OUR SIDE.
14:45:24 I APPRECIATE IT.
14:45:24 WE HAVE SLIDES UP.
14:45:27 IF YOU COULD ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE WILL PROCEED.
14:45:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER.
14:45:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT.
14:45:35 JUST A MOMENT.
14:45:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE WE ON 67 OR 66?
14:45:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE ON 66.
14:45:41 YES, SIR.
14:45:41 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
14:45:42 GO AHEAD.
14:45:43 >>CAROLE POST: NO PROBLEM.
14:45:44 WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM 66, BUT OUR INTENTION IS TO PRESENT A
14:45:49 PRESENTATION THAT WILL ACCOUNT FOR AGENDA ITEM 66 AND 67.
14:45:54 SO WE ARE COMBINING THOSE.
14:45:57 AS YOU CAN SEE AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR AUDIENCE, WE HAVE
14:46:00 THE TWO AGENDA ITEMS THERE.
14:46:04 ITEM 66 WAS RELATIVE TO QUESTIONS ASKED ABOUT THE PURPOSE
14:46:08 AND OBJECTIVE OF MIXED-USE CATEGORIES IN LAND DEVELOPMENT,
14:46:12 AND THEN ITEM 67 WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND
14:46:18 THE FULL PRESENTATION THAT HAD BEEN MADE ON OCTOBER 22nd
14:46:22 DURING THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP.
14:46:24 SO WE'RE COMBINING THEM INTO ONE.
14:46:27 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
14:46:28 AT THE OCTOBER 22nd COUNCIL WORKSHOP, IF YOU RECALL, WE
14:46:33 GAVE A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION THAT REFLECTED ON A
14:46:39 LONG-TERM CITY PLANNING STRATEGY.
14:46:43 AS DETAILED HERE ON THE SLIDE, WE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND IN
14:46:46 TERMS OF LOOKING AT POPULATION, EMPLOYMENT TRENDS,
14:46:50 TRANSPORTATION RELATED MATTERS, PLANNING TOOLS THAT WE USE
14:46:53 AND SO ON.
14:46:54 AGAIN, AS YOU RECALL, THAT PRESENTATION CONCLUDED WITH A
14:47:01 SERIES OF SUGGESTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT BECAUSE OF THE
14:47:05 LENGTH OF THE DAY, THAT WAS CONTINUED TO THIS MEETING.
14:47:10 NEXT SLIDE.
14:47:10 WE ARE NOT GOING TO REHASH ALL OF THE DEPTH OF THAT
14:47:16 PRESENTATION, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST REFRESH FOR THE BENEFIT
14:47:19 OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THE GROWTH
14:47:25 MANAGEMENT PRESENTATION ITSELF REFLECTS THAT A REFRESH,
14:47:32 RENEW OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO REFOCUS ON LONG-TERM AND
14:47:36 STRATEGIC LAND USE PLANNING.
14:47:38 SOME OF THAT IS REFLECTED IN OUR COMMITMENT TO THE
14:47:43 APPOINTMENT OF RANDY GOERS AS DIRECTOR OF CITY PLANNING.
14:47:46 YOU NOW HAVE A NEW CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
14:47:49 AND IN SHORT ORDER, RANDY AND HIS POINT-FIVE MEMBER OF HIS
14:47:55 TEAM HAVE ESTABLISHED A ROAD MAP FOR OUR CITY PLANNING THAT
14:47:58 ENTAILS THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE LAID OUT ON THIS SLIDE.
14:48:01 SO THIS RECALLS THERE ARE ALREADY MANY MOVING PARTS THAT ARE
14:48:05 TAKING PLACE WITH RESPECT TO OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLANNING.
14:48:08 ALL OF THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE LAID OUT ON THIS SLIDE
14:48:11 INTEGRATE INTO TODAY'S DISCUSSION, AND SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY
14:48:15 ARE SPECIFICALLY RESPONSIVE TO ONE OR MORE OF THE
14:48:19 RECOMMENDATIONS.
14:48:21 IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
14:48:23 THIS SLIDE IS, IN FACT, THE SUMMARY OF THE EIGHT
14:48:29 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE THE CULMINATION OF OUR GROWTH
14:48:32 MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP.
14:48:33 SO JUST TO REFRESH WHAT THEY ARE, NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH
14:48:37 EACH ONE.
14:48:39 I WOULD NOTE, THOUGH, THAT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE ON
14:48:42 THIS SLIDE DOES CORRELATE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 66.
14:48:47 SO THAT'S WHERE OUR 66 AND 67, WHICH IS REFERENCED TO ALL
14:48:54 EIGHT, THAT CREATES OUR COLLECTIVE PRESENTATION TODAY.
14:48:58 SO WITH THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, WE'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO
14:49:01 PRESENT EACH OF THE EIGHT INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND
14:49:05 INVITE COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE AND DIRECTION FOR
14:49:09 EACH ITEM WHILE BEING MINDFUL OF THE TIME OF DAY AND THE
14:49:13 TIME NEEDED TO COVER ALL EIGHT ITEMS, PRESUMING THAT WE CAN
14:49:17 GET THROUGH THEM TODAY.
14:49:18 WE THINK THIS ACTUALLY WILL ENABLE COUNCIL TO FOCUS ON THE
14:49:25 MERITS OF EACH ITEM, ALLOW THERE TO BE SOME DIALOGUE WITH
14:49:28 OUR TEAM ABOUT THE RATIONALE FOR THEM AND TO REALLY GIVE US
14:49:32 A FOCUSED DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
14:49:34 SO IF THAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE APPROACH, WE WILL PROCEED.
14:49:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
14:49:42 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
14:49:44 >>CAROLE POST: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TAG
14:49:46 TEAM DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN
14:49:49 RANDY AND ABBYE WHO REPRESENT EXPERTISE ON ONE OR MORE OF
14:49:54 THE ITEMS.
14:49:55 I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THEM NOW STARTING WITH, NEXT SLIDE,
14:50:00 PLEASE, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, AND I WILL TURN
14:50:03 OVER TO RANDY GOERS.
14:50:04 THANK YOU.
14:50:04 >>RANDY GOERS: RANDY GOERS, DIRECTOR OF CITY PLANNING.
14:50:09 THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION, AS YOU RECALL, WAS TO IMPLEMENT
14:50:13 SOME 3D VISUALIZATION TOOLS ONLINE TO GIVE RESIDENTS AN
14:50:21 OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE IMPACT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN
14:50:24 AND ZONING ON THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
14:50:27 OUR RECOMMENDATION, AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THE
14:50:31 POTENTIAL VENDORS IS DEVELOP THE RIGHT RESOURCES AND
14:50:37 HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BY THE EARLY PART OF 2021.
14:50:41 SO IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I CAN MOVE FORWARD.
14:50:45 IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION, I
14:50:47 WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
14:50:51 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS SOMETHING I TALKED TO RANDY AND
14:50:55 CAROLE AND SOME OF THEIR COLLEAGUES ABOUT, I THINK IT'S
14:50:58 REALLY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE BE ABLE TO SEE SPATIALLY WHAT
14:51:00 THE AREA AROUND THEM IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
14:51:03 WE'VE HAD FOLKS COME BEFORE US RECENTLY WHO SAY THINGS LIKE
14:51:07 THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL PARK NEXT TO ME AND NOW IT'S GOING TO
14:51:09 BE A FOUR-STORY SOMETHING.
14:51:11 IF WHEN YOU'RE BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU CAN LOOK AT A
14:51:15 MAP LIKE THIS, THEN IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE DENSITY THAT
14:51:18 WILL GO AROUND YOU AND IT ALSO HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE
14:51:22 CONTEXT OF IT.
14:51:23 OTHER CITIES HAVE VERY SOPHISTICATED TOOLS LIKE THIS THAT
14:51:30 THEY USE.
14:51:31 I'M GLAD THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS STEPPING UP.
14:51:33 THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.
14:51:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
14:51:35 ANYBODY ELSE?
14:51:36 ALL RIGHT.
14:51:37 GO AHEAD.
14:51:39 >>RANDY GOERS: NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
14:51:41 THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS THE -- WHAT WE CALL THE UPDATE OF
14:51:45 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
14:51:47 IT REALLY CAME OUT OF THE DISCUSSION IN OCTOBER ABOUT THE
14:51:50 OVERALL VISION OF THE CITY AND WHAT IS DIRECTING THE VISION
14:51:55 AND WHERE GROWTH SHOULD GO AND MAYBE WHERE IT SHOULD BE
14:52:00 CONSTRAINED OR RESTRICTED.
14:52:01 WE DISCUSSED IN OCTOBER THE PLAN IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
14:52:05 MOBILITY -- UPDATE OF THE MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT
14:52:08 READY TO BEGIN.
14:52:10 WE CAN COMBINE THE LAND USE AND THE MOBILITY STRATEGY
14:52:15 TOGETHER TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
14:52:19 WE'LL BE HAVING INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MOBILITY
14:52:23 CONSULTANT.
14:52:24 WE'RE KICKING OFF THE PROCESS ACTUALLY INTERNALLY WITH
14:52:28 DEVELOPING THE RIGHT TEAMS.
14:52:30 WE WERE TALKING TODAY, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PART WILL
14:52:33 ACTUALLY BEGIN IN LATE JANUARY, NOT IN MARCH AND GO THREE TO
14:52:37 FOUR MONTHS WITH LARGE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH THE IDEA OF
14:52:41 BEING ABLE TO BRING TOGETHER THE INFORMATION, WHERE DO WE
14:52:46 SEE GROWTH GOING?
14:52:49 WHAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN CATEGORY ALLOW, THE CURRENT ZONING
14:52:53 CATEGORIES ALLOW?
14:52:54 AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH ALONG THE CORRIDORS
14:53:01 THAT WE COLLECTIVELY WANTED TO ENCOURAGE AND WHERE DO WE
14:53:04 NEED TO PUT CONTROLS TO LIMIT GROWTH.
14:53:06 THE OBJECTIVE IS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL PROBABLY IN
14:53:11 AUGUST/SEPTEMBER WITH TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS,
14:53:14 DIFFERENT OPTIONS ABOUT HOW WE THINK THE CITY COULD GROW,
14:53:18 WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW COUNCIL TO ENGAGE US AND DIRECT US ON
14:53:22 WHICH IS THE PREFERRED OPTION FOR THE CITY.
14:53:24 SO WE WANT TO ENGAGE, KEEP THE COMMUNITY, NEXT SLIDE, TO
14:53:32 SHOW THE TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE IN THE
14:53:36 PROCESS.
14:53:37 IT REALLY IS BUILT AROUND TRYING TO HEAR FROM ALL MEMBERS OF
14:53:41 THE COMMUNITY.
14:53:43 NOT JUST A FEW MEMBERS, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS,
14:53:46 THE BUSINESSES, RESIDENTIAL MAY NOT BE PART OF A
14:53:49 NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION.
14:53:51 WE ARE VERY ORGANIZED -- ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD
14:53:55 ORGANIZATIONS WHICH AREN'T SO ORGANIZED.
14:53:57 PEOPLE DON'T FEEL THEY'VE BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS IN THE
14:54:00 PAST.
14:54:00 WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND
14:54:03 ORGANIZATIONS IN THE PROCESS TO PRODUCE A COLLECTIVE VISION
14:54:07 THAT EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT WITH.
14:54:08 SO THAT'S THE CONCEPT OF WHAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
14:54:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
14:54:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
14:54:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
14:54:19 RANDY, TWO THINGS, ONE, CAN YOU SLIDE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE
14:54:23 MIKE BECAUSE I'M HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE HEARING YOU?
14:54:26 SORRY, I DIDN'T WANT TO MESS UP YOUR DISTANCE THERE.
14:54:29 AND THEN, NUMBER TWO, IS CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE?
14:54:34 I DON'T KNOW WHO'S CONTROLLING THE SLIDE.
14:54:38 THERE WE GO.
14:54:39 IN REGARD TO THE SCHEDULE, YOU GUYS ARE USUALLY PRETTY GOOD
14:54:44 ABOUT THIS, BUT JUST MAKE SURE THAT OUR OFFICES ARE MADE
14:54:50 AWARE OF THE VARIOUS DATES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUT IN
14:54:53 THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
14:54:54 BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE MIGHT WANT TO ATTEND, NOT TO CONTROL
14:54:57 THE MEETING AND NOT TO CONTROL OPINIONS, BUT TO SORT OF JUST
14:55:01 BE A FLY ON THE WALL AND HEAR THE PUBLIC'S OPINION
14:55:04 FIRSTHAND.
14:55:04 SO IF IT'S A VIRTUAL MEETING, LET US BE AWARE OF IT.
14:55:10 IF IT'S AN IN-PERSON MEETING, GIVE US THE DETAILS.
14:55:13 ALSO, HAND IN HAND WITH THAT, WHEN YOU GO OUT TO THE
14:55:19 COMMUNITY, I ASSUME YOU'LL GO OUT WITH A PRESENTATION.
14:55:23 AND IF YOU COULD MAKE COUNCIL -- PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH THAT
14:55:27 PRESENTATION SO WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING OUT TO THE
14:55:30 COMMUNITY WITH AND WHAT THE BUZZ IS.
14:55:36 THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
14:55:37 THAT WAY WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US IN AUGUST, WE'LL BE
14:55:40 PLUGGED IN ALL ALONG THE WAY.
14:55:44 >>RANDY GOERS: WE CAN DO THAT VERY EASILY FOR US.
14:55:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
14:55:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:55:50 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
14:55:51 YOU KNOW, WE FIND THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE AWARENESS IN THE
14:55:56 COMMUNITY ABOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE
14:55:59 AND WHAT THE GOVERNMENT PROCESS IS.
14:56:01 EVEN THOUGH I THOUGHT I KNEW A LOT ABOUT THE CITY, ONCE I
14:56:05 GOT ON THE INSIDE, I LEARNED EXPONENTIALLY MORE, AND WE SEE
14:56:09 KIND OF NEW NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND NEW ACTIVISTS COME IN,
14:56:13 AND IT TAKES MONTHS TO COME UP TO SPEED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.
14:56:16 THE POINT IS THAT WE CAN NEVER DO ENOUGH COMMUNICATING WITH
14:56:19 THE PUBLIC.
14:56:20 WE CAN NEVER DO ENOUGH ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC.
14:56:23 AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN PLANNING
14:56:25 WHAT'S AROUND YOUR HOME AND WHERE YOU WORK.
14:56:27 I'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH RANDY ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD
14:56:35 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PLAN FOR THE BAY TO BAY, MacDILL
14:56:39 AREA.
14:56:40 HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF REACHING OUT AND HAS COMMUNICATED
14:56:43 EFFECTIVELY WITH THE COMMUNITY.
14:56:44 SO THAT HAS WORKED REALLY WELL.
14:56:46 WE JUST NEED TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO COMMUNICATE AND GET
14:56:49 THE PUBLIC INVOLVED.
14:56:51 THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE HAVE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH GOING ON
14:56:54 IN TAMPA AND IN FLORIDA WE HAVE TONS OF NEW PEOPLE MOVING
14:56:57 IN.
14:56:58 AND WE'VE SEEN CONFLICTS BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE A
14:57:02 LONG TIME AND PEOPLE MOVING IN.
14:57:03 THERE'S NO AWARENESS OF THE NEW FOLKS ON WHAT HAS BEEN
14:57:07 PLANNED BEFORE AND WHAT'S BEEN PROMISED BEFORE.
14:57:10 THESE KINDS OF PROCESSES THE MORE OFTEN WE CAN DO THEM, THE
14:57:13 MORE WE CAN LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.
14:57:15 WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT WHAT PEOPLE TOLD US EVEN TWO YEARS AGO
14:57:17 IS UP TO DATE.
14:57:19 USED TO YOU COULD DO PLANS FOR 10, 20, 30 YEARS.
14:57:22 NOW IT'S CHANGING SO RAPIDLY, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA,
14:57:26 THAT WE JUST CAN'T THINK THAT FAR AHEAD.
14:57:28 IT'S GOOD TO THINK, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO KEEP UPDATED ON
14:57:30 FOLKS.
14:57:31 THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND THANKS FOR KEEPING AHEAD OF IT.
14:57:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:57:37 ANYBODY ELSE?
14:57:37 ALL RIGHT.
14:57:38 GO AHEAD.
14:57:40 >>RANDY GOERS: OKAY.
14:57:40 THE NEXT SLIDE, THE MIXED USE PLAN CATEGORIES.
14:57:46 THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT MIXED USE
14:57:50 PLAN CATEGORIES TO SEE HOW WELL THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING.
14:57:53 ARE THEY ACHIEVING THE GOAL?
14:57:55 ACTUALLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS GOING TO TAKE
14:57:58 THIS AS PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.
14:58:01 I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
14:58:03 THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH US HAND IN HAND IN UPDATING THE
14:58:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
14:58:08 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
14:58:10 I BELIEVE THEY ARE ONLINE IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS TO
14:58:13 THEM, BUT THEY'VE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER IN MANY OF THESE
14:58:17 INITIATIVES.
14:58:17 BUT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE MIXED USE PLAN CATEGORY.
14:58:22 A LOT OF QUESTIONS OVER THE LAST YEARS ABOUT WHAT IS MIXED
14:58:24 USE, HOW DOES IT WORK?
14:58:26 IS IT GIVING US THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING
14:58:28 FOR?
14:58:29 YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT
14:58:32 CONSTITUTES MIXED USE UNDER OUR CURRENT PLAN AND SOME OF THE
14:58:38 ACTUAL PROJECTS.
14:58:40 YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S A HORIZONTAL MIXED USE.
14:58:43 THERE IS A PROJECT, WHAT WE CALL THE HORIZONTAL MIXED USE,
14:58:47 WHERE USES ARE ACROSS THE SITE.
14:58:51 SINGLE USE DEVELOPMENT, DODGE, ROOMS TO GO AND VERTICAL
14:58:57 MIXED USE ON THE RIGHT.
14:58:59 SO THE OBJECTIVE IS TO ASSESS WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED UNDER
14:59:03 MIXED USE.
14:59:05 TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE USING FOR MIXED
14:59:07 USE AND REALLY TRY TO DECIDE WHAT IS THE TYPE OF MIXED USE
14:59:11 ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND WHAT CHANGES
14:59:13 NEED TO BE MADE TO THIS CATEGORY OR TO THE POLICIES TO GET
14:59:17 US THERE.
14:59:18 OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF COME BACK
14:59:21 AROUND THE SECOND QUARTER WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND A
14:59:26 PLAN AMENDMENT TO IMPLEMENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
14:59:28 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS --
14:59:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
14:59:30 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY FOR ALL THE QUICK COMMENTS.
14:59:32 BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE KNOW IN THE
14:59:36 FEEDBACK WE GOT BEFORE WE STARTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD
14:59:40 COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, THAT PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WANT
14:59:43 AMENITIES, ESPECIALLY GROCERY STORES, FOOD STORES, OTHER
14:59:46 SERVICES NEARBY WHERE THEY LIVE.
14:59:48 AND THEY WANT WALKABLE STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT
14:59:51 THEY CAN EASILY GET TO THESE, AND WE KNOW FROM
14:59:54 TRANSPORTATION STUDIES THAT THE MORE THEY CAN WALK TO
15:00:00 AMENITIES, THE FEWER TRIPS WE HAVE ON THE ROAD.
15:00:03 WE ALSO KNOW FROM SOME EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
15:00:06 NOISE LEVELS THERE.
15:00:06 THE LAST THING I'LL SAY WITHOUT MENTIONING ANY SPECIFIC
15:00:10 CASES --
15:00:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN YOU SPEAK UP?
15:00:13 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY.
15:00:13 ONE THING I'LL MENTION WITHOUT MENTIONING ANY SPECIFIC CASES
15:00:17 IS THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME APPLICANTS FIND LOOPHOLES IN THIS
15:00:29 MIXED USE CATEGORY WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS
15:00:31 BY PROPOSING A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF BUSINESS.
15:00:38 SO I WOULD JUST ASK TO YOU LOOK AT THE LOOPHOLES ALSO, AND
15:00:41 THINK ABOUT THE ISSUES LIKE SOUND THAT AFFECT THE
15:00:46 COMBINATION OF OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL.
15:00:51 THANK YOU.
15:00:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:00:53 GO AHEAD.
15:00:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:00:56 YEAH, BILL, I'M GLAD YOU PICKED UP ON THAT.
15:00:59 I HAD JUST MADE THE NOTE, MY NOTE SAID "BOGUS MIXED USE."
15:01:05 BUT I THINK HOPEFULLY STAFF IS AWARE OF THIS AND THEY'LL FIX
15:01:11 THOSE LOOPHOLES.
15:01:12 RANDY, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU ADDRESSED THE BONUS DENSITY
15:01:19 PROVISIONS AND THE PAYMENT FOR DENSITY PROVISIONS IN 4
15:01:29 THROUGH 8.
15:01:32 >> THAT'S COMING UP.
15:01:33 ABBYE FEELEY, THAT'S COMING UP IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
15:01:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PERFECT.
15:01:40 THANK YOU.
15:01:42 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DID PUT THAT MIXED USE SLIDE TOGETHER FOR
15:01:47 YOU TO SHOW YOU REALLY THAT OUR MIXED USE CATEGORIES
15:01:50 THROUGHOUT THE CITY DON'T HAVE THOSE DESIGNATIONS FOR
15:01:56 REQUIREMENTS OF MINIMUMS NOR REQUIREMENTS OF MIX OF USES.
15:01:59 SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE EVALUATING AS PART OF THIS
15:02:04 EFFORT IN ORDER TO LOOK AT.
15:02:06 I KNOW THE SEVERAL PROJECTS YOU ARE REFERRING TO WHERE
15:02:11 PEOPLE ARE GETTING ADDITIONAL BONUSES AND ADDITIONAL
15:02:14 INTENSITY FOR HAVING THAT SECOND USE, BUT NOT REALLY -- IT'S
15:02:19 NOT WHAT WE WOULD CONSTITUTE AS A REAL USE, IF IT'S ONLY 400
15:02:24 SQUARE FEET OR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND
15:02:29 SQUARE FOOT DEVELOPMENT.
15:02:30 SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL AS TO WHAT SUM,
15:02:39 MINIMAL STANDARDS AND EVEN MAXIMUM STANDARDS FOR ENSURING
15:02:42 THAT IF YOU'RE RECEIVING IT, IT'S PROPORTIONATE TO WHAT'S
15:02:45 BEING PROVIDED.
15:02:47 THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
15:02:51 THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE LOT LINE DISCUSSION.
15:02:56 IN FACT, I WAS JUST PUTTING A MEMO TOGETHER TO ASK FOR SOME
15:02:59 TIME ON YOUR JANUARY 28th WORKSHOP TO BRING BACK THIS ITEM
15:03:04 TO YOU.
15:03:05 WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE LOT SPLITS THAT HAVE COME
15:03:08 BEFORE COUNCIL IN THE LAST TWO YEARS TO ANALYZE AND EVALUATE
15:03:14 A POTENTIAL FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TO ADDRESS LOT
15:03:20 SPLITS.
15:03:21 I THINK THE ORIGINAL MOTION HAD A 5% DISCUSSION.
15:03:26 PER MY INITIAL EVALUATION, 5% WASN'T NECESSARILY ENOUGH.
15:03:30 SO I'M LOOKING TO GET THAT DATA TOGETHER FOR YOU TO SHOW YOU
15:03:34 WHAT HAS COME BEFORE YOU, WHAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE A GOOD
15:03:38 BAROMETER TO PUT INTO THE CODE, AND PROVIDE THOSE CODE
15:03:42 CHANGES BACK TO YOU HERE AT THE END OF JANUARY.
15:03:45 DOES ANYONE HAVE --
15:03:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:03:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, WE ALL KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE --
15:03:54 IT'S KIND OF WEIRD.
15:03:56 SOME OF THESE LOT SPLITS ARE HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL IN SOME
15:04:01 NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLE COULD CARE
15:04:04 LESS, WHICH IS -- I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO ANALYZE THE
15:04:10 SOCIOLOGICAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL REASONS FOR THAT, BUT THAT
15:04:13 SEEMS TO BE A REALITY.
15:04:14 MR. MIRANDA HAS POINTED OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD TRY
15:04:18 AND TREAT ALL NEIGHBORHOODS THE SAME, AND I GENERALLY AGREE
15:04:23 WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO RULES AND
15:04:26 REGULATIONS, WE NEED TO BE FAIR AND TREAT EVERYBODY THE
15:04:31 SAME.
15:04:34 WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT, ABBYE, MAYBE WHAT IT COULD BE
15:04:37 LIKE IS WE COULD START WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS WHERE
15:04:41 YOU POST -- MAYBE YOU COULD POST THE NOTICE AND SAY, THE
15:04:45 ADMINISTRATOR IS EVALUATING THIS OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR
15:04:49 WHATEVER.
15:04:50 IF YOU OBJECT TO IT, THEN MAYBE THE OBJECTION WOULD ELEVATE
15:04:56 IT.
15:04:57 CATE, I SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN.
15:04:59 YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER TODAY.
15:05:00 I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
15:05:02 BUT MAYBE AN OBJECTION WOULD IMMEDIATELY ELEVATE IT TO THE
15:05:07 COUNCIL LEVEL WHERE IT WAS BEFORE.
15:05:08 IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S POSTED AND NOTICED AND NOBODY IN THE
15:05:12 NEIGHBORHOOD OBJECTS, THEN YOU GUYS AS STAFF CAN RESOLVE IT.
15:05:20 UNDER WHATEVER PROTOCOLS WE COME UP WITH.
15:05:23 BUT IF IT'S POSTED AND NOTICED AND THERE'S OBJECTIONS, THEN
15:05:27 THEY DEFAULT BACK TO KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
15:05:30 AND IT BECOMES MORE OF A PUBLIC DECISION AND COUNCIL.
15:05:36 I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE AS AN IDEA.
15:05:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:05:39 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:05:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT HAS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL.
15:05:45 SOMETIMES I FEEL BAD FOR OTHERS AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO
15:05:47 MAKE A DECISION.
15:05:48 I'M HOPING THAT WE REALLY HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THAT.
15:05:55 AGAIN, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE RULES AND SOME DON'T.
15:05:57 AGAIN, SOMETIMES PEOPLE AREN'T PROPERLY NOTICED.
15:06:00 THAT'S WHAT I SEEM TO FIND, THAT NEIGHBORHOODS AREN'T
15:06:02 PROPERLY NOTICED AT TIMES.
15:06:03 I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
15:06:10 JUST LIKE A SITUATION I GOT ON THE 37th STREET WITH A BIG
15:06:13 DEVELOPMENT, A SENIOR CENTER GOING THERE.
15:06:16 SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THEY
15:06:18 FEEL THEY WERE LEFT OUT ON THE CONVERSATION, HAVING THIS
15:06:23 TALL BUILDING GOING UP RIGHT OVER THEIR HOUSES.
15:06:26 SO I JUST WISH WE COULD FIND A WAY WITH THIS PROCESS TO ALSO
15:06:35 MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORS ARE AWARE AND THEY CAN HAVE ALSO A
15:06:39 VOICE ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
15:06:39 WHEN I FOUND OUT -- DON'T HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL.
15:06:44 IT WAS STRAIGHT TO ZONING AND THE -- WAS RIGHT AND THERE WAS
15:06:44 NO DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, AND NOW I'M HEARING A WHOLE BUNCH OF
15:06:46 FLACK ABOUT WHY DIDN'T WE GET A CHANCE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS.
15:06:50 THIS STUFF IS VERY, VERY COMPLEX.
15:06:52 SOMETIMES MY HEAD GETS SCREWED ALL THE WAY AROUND, LIKE,
15:06:55 WELL, HOW DOES THAT WORK, HOW DOES THAT DOESN'T WORK?
15:06:57 BUT I THINK WE GOT TO FIND A GOOD MEDIAN GROUND TO WORK ON
15:07:01 THAT, ESPECIALLY THE LOT SPLITS.
15:07:03 AGAIN, SOME OF THE BUILDING PERMITS GOING UP IN SOME OF THE
15:07:06 COMMUNITIES.
15:07:06 PEOPLE SAY I DON'T KNOW.
15:07:08 WHY IS IT DON'T KNOW?
15:07:09 ANYTHING TO MAKE THESE FOLKS SIGN OFF ON?
15:07:12 I DON'T KNOW IF STATE LAW, CITY ORDINANCE, MANDATE THESE
15:07:14 PEOPLE DO CERTAIN THINGS TO MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS KNOW
15:07:17 WHAT'S GOING ON.
15:07:19 THAT'S A PORTION WE HAVE TO LOOK AT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE
15:07:21 NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE, WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
15:07:24 NEIGHBORHOODS DO CHANGE, AND I REALIZE THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO
15:07:27 LOOK AT -- MAKE SURE MEET WITH NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS AND
15:07:33 LEADERS SO THEY UNDERSTAND CHANGE MAY BE COMING OR NEW STUFF
15:07:36 COMING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ON BOARD
15:07:38 AND PEOPLE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS,
15:07:41 THEY USUALLY CAN HAVE A GOOD OUTCOME VERSUS HERE IT IS AND
15:07:44 WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE.
15:07:45 THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS I WISH WE WOULD LOOK AT WHEN WE
15:07:48 START MAKING SOME OF THESE DECISIONS.
15:07:50 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
15:07:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:07:59 >>BILL CARLSON: IN CASE ANYBODY FROM -- VIRGINIA PARKER OR
15:08:03 OTHER SOUTH TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LISTENING, I WANT YOU
15:08:05 ALL TO KNOW I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH MS. FEELEY AND
15:08:08 MS. WELLS THE OTHER DAY.
15:08:10 THEY BOTH HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA.
15:08:13 MS. FEELEY IN PARTICULAR HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN VIRGINIA
15:08:17 PARK IN THE PAST.
15:08:19 AND THEY HAVE GREAT IDEAS ON THIS.
15:08:22 I WANTED TO PUSH FORWARD SOMETHING, SOME MOTION OR
15:08:24 DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS AND
15:08:28 THEY ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH GREAT IDEAS FOR US.
15:08:30 ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME WAITING FOR MANY NEIGHBORHOOD
15:08:33 ASSOCIATIONS, I THINK THE CITY IS SHOWING A COMMITMENT BY
15:08:36 STAFFING UP AND ADDING GREAT PEOPLE IN AND THE FOLKS THAT
15:08:38 ARE HERE HAVE EXPERIENCE, AND THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO
15:08:43 US WITH SOME IDEAS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS SOON.
15:08:46 THANKS.
15:08:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:08:47 ALL RIGHT.
15:08:49 CARRY ON.
15:08:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE OTHER THOUGHT AND
15:08:52 COUNCILMAN GUDES ACTUALLY REMINDED ME OF THIS.
15:08:55 I DON'T KNOW IF IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM 4 OR A DIFFERENT
15:08:58 ITEM, ABBYE, BUT COUNCILMAN GUDES TALKED ABOUT NOTICE.
15:09:07 I GENERALLY BELIEVE THAT OUR NOTICE SYSTEM WORKS.
15:09:12 THEY PUT UP A SIGN.
15:09:15 SOMETIMES IT GETS KNOCKED OVER.
15:09:16 GENERALLY, THEY PUT UP A SIGN AND THEY HAVE TO NOTICE WITHIN
15:09:19 THE 250 FEET CIRCLE AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF, WHAT IS
15:09:26 IT, FROM THE POST OFFICE OR WHATEVER, THAT THEY ACTUALLY
15:09:30 MAILED THOSE TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THE 250 FEET.
15:09:34 NOW, IF YOU RENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET NOTICE.
15:09:38 SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN -- I
15:09:40 DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD KNOW WHO THE TENANTS ARE, SO THAT'S
15:09:44 KIND OF OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX, BUT EARLIER IN THE
15:09:47 MEETING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WERE WATCHING,
15:09:50 STEPHANIE POINTER FROM SOUTH OF GANDY, GAVE AN INTERESTING
15:09:55 IDEA, WHICH IS LARGER PROJECTS, LIKE THE HIGH-RISE THAT
15:09:58 YOU'RE REFERRING TO, OR THE MID-RISE YOU'RE REFERRING TO,
15:10:01 MR. GUDES, GET A LARGER NOTICE.
15:10:06 LARGER PROJECTS MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT THAT'S A QUARTER MILE
15:10:12 OR MORE, ESPECIALLY THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OR THE BUILDING MASS
15:10:17 OR WHATEVER MIGHT BE BIGGER THAN THAT 250 FEET AND WARRANT
15:10:24 BETTER NOTICE.
15:10:24 SO, AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T REALLY FIT WITH NUMBER FOUR.
15:10:28 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT FITS WITH, BUT I THINK -- AND IF
15:10:32 THERE'S A MOTION AT SOME POINT IN TIME OR IF YOU NEED A
15:10:36 MOTION, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING TO
15:10:39 THINK ABOUT.
15:10:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A GREAT CITY ATTORNEY WHO IS ALWAYS
15:10:47 THINKING.
15:10:48 I GUESS HE WAS ON THE SAME TRACK I WAS ON.
15:10:51 OTHER CITIES HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A NEIGHBORHOOD
15:10:54 COMPATIBILITY MEETING.
15:10:56 WHEN YOU HAVE PROJECTS THAT MEET THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSENSUS
15:11:01 ON SOME THINGS, WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO DO,
15:11:04 APPARENTLY, LARGO HAS ONE.
15:11:06 MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT LARGO DOES AS FAR AS THEIR
15:11:09 NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY MEETING AND HOW THEY OPERATE,
15:11:11 THAT MIGHT BE A ROAD PATH FOR US IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
15:11:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH AN OBSERVATION, THE
15:11:20 CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT HAVE A PLANNING AND REZONING BOARD.
15:11:23 AND A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS, THERE IS A LOWER BOARD WHERE THE
15:11:26 NEIGHBORHOODS DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT WITH A
15:11:29 DEVELOPER OR THE PETITIONER DOES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO --
15:11:34 HEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS BEFORE THEY COME TO
15:11:36 COUNCIL.
15:11:37 CITY OF TAMPA IS RATHER UNIQUE.
15:11:39 YOU HAVE TWO FULL PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, AND
15:11:43 SOMETIMES A LOT OF THESE ISSUES COME OUT DURING YOUR FIRST
15:11:46 READING.
15:11:46 SO IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO LOOK
15:11:54 AT.
15:11:55 THE CONCEPT OF HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY MEETING
15:11:58 AND IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT CHAPTER
15:12:02 27.
15:12:02 THE CITY OF TAMPA IS UNIQUE IN HAVING TWO FULL LAND USE
15:12:06 HEARINGS.
15:12:07 FOR REZONING.
15:12:10 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS PLANNED AND I HAVE
15:12:13 NOT BEEN PARTY TO THE DISCUSSIONS.
15:12:15 BUT THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I THINK MIGHT BE WORTHY OF
15:12:20 DISCUSSION TO, AGAIN, BRING THE NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER AND
15:12:25 BRING THE PARTIES TOGETHER BEFORE IT BECOMES NECESSARILY AN
15:12:30 ISSUE AT CITY COUNCIL.
15:12:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
15:12:34 SUGGESTION.
15:12:34 WE HAVE EVERYONE HERE AT THE TABLE.
15:12:37 YOU'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS IN OTHER PLACES.
15:12:39 I ALWAYS TAKE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ADVICE SO I'M GOING TO
15:12:42 PASS THAT ON TO THE FOLKS AT THE TABLE TO LOOK INTO SUCH
15:12:45 MATTERS AND BRING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL WHILE THEY ARE DOING
15:12:49 THEIR RESEARCH AND THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY FOR US TO MOVE
15:12:52 FORWARD.
15:12:55 >>CAROLE POST: THIS IS CAROLE POST.
15:12:57 I APPRECIATE THE OBJECTIVE AS WELL.
15:13:00 I THINK, AS RANDY REFERENCED IN AN EARLIER SLIDE, WE HAVE A
15:13:04 RENEWED FOCUS ON BEING INCLUSIVE ACROSS ALL OF THE
15:13:08 ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON.
15:13:09 SO I THINK THAT VERY MUCH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
15:13:12 ADMINISTRATION'S OBJECTIVES AND PHILOSOPHY.
15:13:15 I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT AT I THINK THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING,
15:13:23 PART OF THE CHAPTER 14 AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED WAS AN
15:13:28 ELEMENT OF UNIFYING AND STANDARDIZING THE NOTICE
15:13:35 REQUIREMENTS.
15:13:35 A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT
15:13:37 OUR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS HAD GOTTEN COMPLICATED.
15:13:39 DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WERE DOING, YOU NEEDED TO MAIL OR
15:13:42 OTHERWISE YOU NEEDED TO POST OR SO ON.
15:13:44 AND THERE WERE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, IF YOU RECALL, ANDREA
15:13:49 PRESENTED THAT.
15:13:50 THAT CODE HAS NOW ACTUALLY JUST BEEN MODIFIED TO UNIFY AND
15:13:54 STANDARDIZE OUR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
15:13:55 SO WHILE WE ALWAYS SAY NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE, WHAT YOU'RE
15:13:59 SUGGESTING WOULD TURN THAT SIDEWAYS WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO
15:14:01 UNIFY, SIMPLIFY, AND STREAMLINE THIS -- INTRODUCE YET A NEW
15:14:09 DIMENSION.
15:14:10 JUST FOR CONSIDERATION.
15:14:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
15:14:12 AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE.
15:14:16 TAKE SUGGESTION FROM MY CITY ATTORNEY AND THAT WAS A GOOD
15:14:18 SUGGESTION.
15:14:19 IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE CAN STILL TAKE A BRIEF LOOK AND SEE
15:14:22 WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME
15:14:25 PAGE, THE SAME ROAD THAT YOU WANT TO GO DOWN.
15:14:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
15:14:30 CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION.
15:14:37 >> THE NEXT SLIDE IS THAT BONUS DENSITY DISCUSSION.
15:14:42 WE HAD PRESENTED THIS LAST MONTH AND I HAD INFORMED YOU THAT
15:14:46 THIS IS A LARGER UNDERTAKING.
15:14:50 WE DO NEED TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THE FORMULA AS WELL AS
15:14:56 EVALUATE OUR AMENITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CODE.
15:14:58 I THINK LAST MONTH I GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT
15:15:01 HOW BONUS DENSITY HAD MORPHED ITSELF THREE OUT OF TEN
15:15:08 AMENITIES TO A FORMULA BASED AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING
15:15:10 AT THAT FORMULA AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS ACTUALLY A VERY
15:15:16 PREDICTABLE AND USEFUL FORMULA FOR DEVELOPERS WHO ARE
15:15:20 LOOKING TO EXERCISE BONUS AND THEN ALSO, REALLY, WHAT IS
15:15:24 THAT INTENT OF THE BONUS.
15:15:25 WHAT WERE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE?
15:15:27 I'M GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE A
15:15:32 WORKSHOP THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF
15:15:36 2021.
15:15:38 IN ADDITION, I MAY HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON SOME
15:15:44 OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES HERE, AND THAT AS WELL
15:15:49 WILL BE PLAYING INTO THAT BONUS UPDATE.
15:15:53 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SYNTHESIZING THOSE TWO ITEMS AS
15:15:56 WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING OUR
15:15:58 PRIORITIES, OUR GROWTH STRATEGIES, AND THEN ALSO A
15:16:03 PREDICTABLE AND EASILY IMPLEMENTABLE FORMULA THERE FOR THE
15:16:06 BONUS.
15:16:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:16:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:16:11 THANK YOU, ABBYE.
15:16:13 I THINK THIS IS A REAL IMPORTANT ISSUE.
15:16:15 WE EVEN HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT NEXT WEEK WHERE THIS ISSUE
15:16:21 COMES UP.
15:16:21 I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS, OBVIOUSLY, IN ADVANCE, BUT I THINK
15:16:26 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS BONUS DENSITY ISSUE IN THE CONTEXT
15:16:33 OF WHERE WE WERE AT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DEALING WITH IT A
15:16:37 DECADE AGO OR MORE, IN THE EARLY 2000s OR THE MID 2000s
15:16:43 WHEN WE WERE IN A RECESSION OR HEADED IN A RECESSION, AND WE
15:16:47 HAD TO INCENTIVIZE, OR WE FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO INCENTIVIZE
15:16:52 DEVELOPERS TO COME HERE, PLEASE, PLEASE COME HERE AND BUILD.
15:16:54 AND NOW, IF ANYTHING, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM TO BUILD, AND
15:17:01 THEY ARE TRIPPING OVER THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET
15:17:04 IN LINE TO BUILD.
15:17:06 SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT.
15:17:10 AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THE EQUATION IS I KNOW IN SOME
15:17:15 SCENARIOS, WHEN THEY WANT THAT ADDITIONAL DENSITY, THEY HAD
15:17:21 TO PAY -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS OR WHAT WE CALL IT,
15:17:26 ET CETERA -- BUT THEY DID PAY INTO CERTAIN POOLS OF MONEY
15:17:31 THAT WOULD HELP PROVIDE THINGS, ASSETS, BETTER PARKING,
15:17:37 CURBS, ROADS, ET CETERA, FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD TO
15:17:41 OFFSET THE IMPACT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
15:17:42 I GUESS THAT'S A BALANCE THERE.
15:17:47 WE DON'T WANT TO DISINCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT, BUT AT THE SAME
15:17:50 TIME, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE NEED TO FINANCIALLY
15:17:54 INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT ANY MORE.
15:17:59 I'M SURE YOU'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE KIND OF
15:18:02 COMPETING POLICY INTERESTS, ABBYE, AND COMPANY.
15:18:08 BUT THOSE ARE DEFINITELY QUESTIONS THAT CLEARLY WE WANT TO
15:18:12 WORK WITH THE MAYOR ON, BUT WE ALSO WANT COUNCIL TO BE
15:18:15 WORKING ON THOSE AS WELL.
15:18:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
15:18:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
15:18:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALONG THAT LINE, MR. DINGFELDER, IF YOU
15:18:21 RECALL, WE HAD SEVERAL FOLKS THAT CAME BEFORE US WITH BONUS
15:18:24 DENSITY AND THAT MONEY WENT TO OTHER AREAS NOT IN THE
15:18:27 GENERAL AREA.
15:18:29 THAT'S A CONCERN.
15:18:30 SO HOPE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL.
15:18:32 BECAUSE IF THAT PROJECT IS BEING DONE IN A CERTAIN
15:18:35 NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YET THE MONEY IS GOING WAY ON THE OTHER
15:18:37 SIDE OF TOWN, THEN WHAT GOOD IS THAT FOR THAT COMMUNITY THAT
15:18:40 YOU JUST --
15:18:42 >> I REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION.
15:18:43 THAT WAS ON THE NORTH BOULEVARD, AND THE IMPROVEMENT WAS
15:18:46 HAPPENING ON NEBRASKA, AND IT WAS QUITE A WAYS AWAY.
15:18:49 SO, YES, THAT FORMULA FOR HOW THE MONEY IS COMING IN AND
15:18:54 WHERE IT IS GOING IS WHAT I HOPE TO EVALUATE AND BRING BACK
15:18:58 TO YOU, BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A MEANINGFUL ASSOCIATION
15:19:02 BETWEEN THE PROJECT, THE PROJECT AREA, AND THE IMPROVEMENT.
15:19:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
15:19:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
15:19:10 CONTINUE ON.
15:19:14 >> THIS IS TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF OUR OCTOBER
15:19:23 20 MEETING.
15:19:25 REALLY EVOLVING AROUND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE HISTORIC
15:19:28 DISTRICT OR INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
15:19:32 AND REALLY, PLANNING PARKS.
15:19:42 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT REGENT'S PARK WHICH PLAYS INTO THIS.
15:19:45 IT SAYS I TOOK OVER THE DIRECTOR OF CITY PLANNING, I HAVE
15:19:49 HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MIGHT
15:19:53 BE ABLE TO TALK WITH MORE, BUT I GET THE SENSE THAT IN THIS
15:19:57 NEIGHBORHOOD THEY HAVE VERY SPECIFIC ISSUES, IDEAS, THAT
15:20:00 THEY FEEL AFFECT THEM.
15:20:02 BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU SEE THAT
15:20:05 THERE ARE ISSUES THAT AFFECT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE
15:20:10 PRESENTATIONS FOR DIFFERENT AREAS.
15:20:12 SO OUR GOAL IS THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTING MULTIPLE
15:20:20 NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO AFFECT CHANGE TO
15:20:23 ALLEVIATE THOSE CONDITIONS?
15:20:32 IN THE COMMUNITY AND TALKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
15:20:38 LEGAL, WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM NEIGHBORHOODS TO
15:20:41 TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING SPECIFICALLY.
15:20:43 SO THAT SAME PROCESS THAT WILL HELP US DEFINE THE OVERALL
15:20:48 VISION WILL ALSO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE COMMON ISSUES OR
15:20:51 CONCERNS THAT ARE COMMENTED ON IN SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, TO
15:20:58 COME UP WITH SOME PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT RELATE TO THE
15:21:00 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CODE, MAKE
15:21:03 CODE CHANGES AND SO FORTH.
15:21:05 SO HOW WE WILL HANDLE IT THOSE TYPES OF CONCERNS FOR THE
15:21:10 PLANNING SIDE, AND I WILL ASK ABBEY TO DESCRIBE HOW THE CITY
15:21:16 CAN HANDLE IT FROM THE REVIEW SIDE.
15:21:18 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANKS RANDY.
15:21:22 I THINK IN RELATION TO THIS MOTION, THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION
15:21:30 AS TO HAVE WHAT WE MOVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE MATERIALS
15:21:33 RETAINED IN THE CODE IN DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
15:21:35 SOME OF THESE MODIFICATIONS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE REACTING
15:21:41 TO IS MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE EITHER ALLOWED BY RIGHT, OR ARE
15:21:46 BEING APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY UNDER CERTAIN CRITERIA.
15:21:50 SO THE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE TO EVALUATE THOSE CRITERIA AND
15:21:55 PERHAPS MODIFY THEM BASED ON THAT EVALUATION TO SEE HOW WE
15:21:58 MAY BE ABLE TO STRENGTHEN THEM MOVING FORWARD.
15:22:04 SOME THINGS ARE SUBJECTIVE TYPES.
15:22:07 PEOPLE PREFER CERTAIN STYLES OVER OTHER STYLES, AND YOU DO
15:22:13 HAVE YOUR VARIANCE REVIEW PROCESS.
15:22:15 WE USED TO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE PROCESS THAT DID
15:22:20 BECOME A DESIGN EXCEPTION PROCESS IN THE CODE, SO IT WOULD
15:22:24 OTHERWISE BE MODIFY THE CRITERIA OR POTENTIALLY REMOVE THAT
15:22:28 ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION BASED ON AN EVALUATION OF
15:22:33 WHETHER OR NOT IT IS EFFECTIVELY WORKING.
15:22:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:22:46 ALL RIGHT.
15:22:47 WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM?
15:22:50 >> THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE'S
15:22:58 BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WHICH
15:23:02 IS OCCURRING, THAT IS OCCURRING.
15:23:07 IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT SHOWS YOU AN IMAGE ON THE
15:23:10 LEFT OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA LOOKED LIKE UP UNTIL
15:23:16 2016.
15:23:17 THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA ON THE
15:23:20 LEFT.
15:23:21 IN 2016, THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE DEFINITION.
15:23:23 YOU CAN SEE THAT.
15:23:24 IT GREW SUBSTANTIALLY.
15:23:26 AND AT 2016.
15:23:29 IN FACT PRIOR TO 2016, LOOK A LITTLE HARDER ON THE MAP,
15:23:35 AREAS IN SOUTH GANDY, RATTLESNAKE POINT UP UNTIL 2016.
15:23:43 NOW MOVE FORWARD FROM 2016, AND A SIGNIFICANT AREA OF THE
15:23:47 CITY'S COASTLINE IS NOW IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. IN
15:23:52 2016 THE COMP PLAN POLICIES PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN
15:23:55 UPDATED IN THIS MAP, WAS UPDATED, FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY
15:23:58 WEREN'T, SO WE ARE BEHIND THE CURVE FROM A POLICY
15:24:02 STANDPOINT.
15:24:04 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
15:24:06 IN OCTOBER, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO USE
15:24:09 HOPEFULLY WITH THE MONEY THAT WE WERE PAYING FOR THE GRANT,
15:24:15 BUT WE DECIDED THAT FOR THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA THAT WE
15:24:18 WOULD START LOOKING AT IT NOW, WAIT FOR A GRANT SEVERAL
15:24:27 MONTHS INTO THE FUTURE.
15:24:28 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
15:24:31 THE ISSUES ABOUT HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT, EVACUATION, SHELTERS,
15:24:36 ALL MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS, AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL AROUND
15:24:40 THE APRIL-MAY TIME FRAME, THE SECOND QUARTER OF THE YEAR,
15:24:45 WITH SOME RECOMMENDED PLAN OF MANAGING GROWTH IN THE COASTAL
15:24:49 HIGH HAZARD AREA.
15:24:51 SO WE HOPE TO HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE YOU EARLY IN THE YEAR TO
15:24:56 ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN ARISING AS A RESULT OF
15:25:03 DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA UP UNTIL NOW.
15:25:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:25:08 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YES, SIR.
15:25:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WASN'T THERE A RECOMMENDATION ON THERE
15:25:22 PREVIOUSLY ABOUT A POSSIBLE MORATORIUM?
15:25:24 DID YOU MENTION THAT, RANDY?
15:25:25 >>RANDY GOERS: OCTOBER WAS ON THERE BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE
15:25:29 CONSIDERATION.
15:25:29 WE CAME BACK LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT MIGHT
15:25:34 ENTAIL.
15:25:37 THERE ARE SOME LEGAL STANDARDS, TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
15:25:41 WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
15:25:44 THEN WE STEPPED BACK AND SAID, WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN
15:25:48 TO ADDRESS THE POLICY REQUIREMENTS?
15:25:51 WE MOVE FORWARD, HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE IN THE
15:25:54 NEXT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS.
15:25:56 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK THE SECOND PART TO THAT, COUNCILMAN
15:26:01 DINGFELDER, IF I CAN INTERJECT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS
15:26:07 LOOK AT THINGS HOLISTICALLY.
15:26:09 I HAVE PRESENTED MANY CASES BEFORE YOU, AND COUNCIL ALWAYS
15:26:11 LOOKS AT THINGS HOLISTICALLY, AND YOU START TO PLAY WITH ONE
15:26:15 PART OF A PROJECT, IT PULLS ON ANOTHER PART, BUT THE
15:26:19 APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE YOU FALL UNDER DIFFERENT
15:26:23 WINDOWS, AND IN RELATIONSHIP TO PROJECTS COMING IN, IN THIS
15:26:27 AREA, I BELIEVE YOU STILL HAVE THE TOOLS IN YOUR TOOL BOX TO
15:26:30 BE ABLE TO BE EVALUATING THOSE AND THE IMPACTS THAT THEY ARE
15:26:35 HAVING TO THE OVERALL AREA, WHETHER IT WAS IN OR NOT,
15:26:43 WHETHER THAT IS APPROPRIATE, COMPATIBILITY, VALID, IN A WAY
15:26:47 THAT WE CAN BE EVALUATING THE PROJECT AND LOOKING AT THAT
15:26:52 BOTH IN THE CONTEXT OF ITS LOCATION IN THE CHHA AS WELL AS
15:26:58 IN THE CONTEXT OVERALL IN THE CITY AND ON OUR CITY SYSTEM.
15:27:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU KNOW, ABBEY, WE HAVE KNOWN EACH
15:27:09 OTHER FOR A LONG TIME, AND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE, BUT
15:27:11 WHAT YOU ARE SAYING SOUNDS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT UNFORTUNATELY
15:27:14 WE JUST HAD THREE BIG EXAMPLES OF CASES -- AND I SAY THE
15:27:23 WORD CASES MEANINGFULLY BECAUSE THEY ALMOST BECAME BIG
15:27:26 LAWSUITS -- WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TOOLS, AND ULTIMATELY
15:27:31 WE WERE PLACED IN A POSITION WHERE MANY OF US WANTED TO TURN
15:27:33 DOWN THE PROJECT BUT WERE TOLD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE GREAT
15:27:37 LEGAL GROUNDS TO TURN IT DOWN.
15:27:38 I AM NOT TRYING TO REVISIT ALL THOSE CASES, AND I WON'T.
15:27:41 BUT THAT'S THE REALITY.
15:27:44 WE SALT HERE AND DEALT WITH THAT AT AND DISAPPOINTED THE
15:27:50 COMMUNITIES WITH THAT ANSWER.
15:27:53 SO WHEN I SAW THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM AT THE LAST WORKSHOP,
15:27:58 I THOUGHT, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
15:28:02 AND I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
15:28:05 I THINK IT'S REALLY A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, LET'S SAY BUILT
15:28:15 AT THE CORNER OF INTERBAY AND DALE MABRY.
15:28:18 MIGHT NOT BE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ZONE, LOOKING AT THE
15:28:21 MAP, BUT IT SURE AS HECK HAS A BIG IMPACT ON EVACUATION FOR
15:28:26 EVERYTHING SOUTH OF GANDY.
15:28:30 AND TO ME, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
15:28:35 YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW THEY BUILD THAT PROJECT, YOU
15:28:38 KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BUILT 15 FEET TALL OR 20 FEET
15:28:42 TALL, YOU KNOW, ABOVE SEA LEVEL TO WITHSTAND THAT BIG STORM.
15:28:47 IT'S HOW DO YOU EVACUATE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF THAT
15:28:51 PENINSULA?
15:28:51 AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN
15:28:59 OUR COMP FLORIDA AS FAR AS I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT CAN PUT A
15:29:07 HOLD ON THOSE PROJECTS OR ALLOW US TO LEGALLY DENY THOSE
15:29:10 PROJECTS.
15:29:11 THEY SEEM TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO
15:29:14 TRANSPORTATION, AND THE OTHER ISSUES, STANDARD ISSUES THAT
15:29:18 COME IN FRONT OF US.
15:29:22 BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
15:29:23 AND I'M SURE I AM NOT ALONE ON THAT.
15:29:26 AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROBLEM, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE
15:29:29 A SOLUTION, THEN TO ME, A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM IS THE WAY TO
15:29:33 DO IT.
15:29:37 AND IT'S TEMPORARY.
15:29:38 IT'S TEMPORARY MORATORIUM UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT EXACTLY
15:29:41 WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AND WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE AND HOW WE
15:29:43 CAN CHANGE THE CODE AND HOW WE CAN CHANGE THE COMP PLAN TO
15:29:46 ADDRESS THAT, AND TO DISCOURAGE ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY IN
15:29:51 THE PENINSULA.
15:29:51 AND WHEN I SAY THE PENINSULA, I'M ACTUALLY -- AND I DON'T
15:29:54 KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR DWINDLE
15:29:57 MULTIFAMILY NORTH OF GANDY, BUT I'M EVEN TALKING ABOUT UP
15:30:01 TOWARD EL PRADO OR EUCLID OR EVEN BAY TO BAY.
15:30:06 BECAUSE THE ENTIRE PENINSULA IS JUST A DISASTER WAITING TO
15:30:11 HAPPEN IN TERMS OF EVACUATION.
15:30:16 SO, ANYWAY, I'LL LET OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK TO THAT.
15:30:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
15:30:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MEAN, I DON'T MEAN TO BE DISRESPECTFUL,
15:30:27 BUT WHEN ABBEY SAYS WE DO HAVE THE TOOLS, IF WE HAVE THE
15:30:30 TOOLS, WE COULD HAVE STOPPED A LOT OF THINGS THAT WENT ON
15:30:35 THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WANT IF WE HAD THE TOOLS.
15:30:38 SO I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHERE ARE THE TOOLS AT?
15:30:42 I NEED TO SEE THOSE TOOLS TO UNDERSTAND IT.
15:30:44 BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL MOTIONS, AND WE CONCEDED WITH THE
15:30:49 MAGISTRATE, AND IF WE HAD THESE TOOLS, AND WE DON'T KNOW
15:30:53 WHAT THEY ARE, AND MAYBE CLEARLY DEFINE IN OUR PACKETS.
15:30:57 SO IF WE COME ACROSS THIS WE NOW NO HOW TO DEFEND THAT AND
15:31:01 THE COMMUNITIES ISN'T UPSET SAYING WE DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY
15:31:04 WERE ASKING TO DO WHEN THEY WERE ASKING US TO DO SOMETHING.
15:31:07 SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE TOOLS ARE, IF WE HAVE
15:31:10 THEM, BECAUSE I AM SURE IN MY OPINION, PEOPLE ARE STILL
15:31:16 GOING TO TRY TO GET AROUND WITH BE THE TRANSPORTATION, SO IF
15:31:19 WE HAVE THE TOOLS, WE NEED TO SEE THOSE TOOLS.
15:31:23 AND I'M JUST SAYING.
15:31:25 >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE THOSE TOOLS ARE
15:31:29 IN YOUR PD CRITERIA AND IN YOUR WAIVER CRITERIA.
15:31:32 I'M NOT SAYING ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT I'M SAYING
15:31:36 MANY OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS COME BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR THE
15:31:39 EXCEPTIONS.
15:31:40 THEY NEED TEN WAIVERS.
15:31:42 THEY NEED A PARKING WAIVER.
15:31:43 THEY INCREASE THEIR HEIGHT.
15:31:45 YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE
15:31:48 RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY CURRENTLY HOLD, AND WHEN WE
15:31:52 ARE LOOKING AT THOSE AND LOOKING AT THE OVERALL
15:31:54 COMPATIBILITY OF THE PROJECT, AS IT COMES TO YOU, NOT AS A
15:31:59 EUCLIDEAN ZONING BUT COMES TO YOU AS A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED
15:32:02 ZONING TO GET RELIEF FROM STANDARD CODES, THAT WE NEED TO BE
15:32:07 EVALUATING THOSE IN A WAY THAT ARE FURTHERING THESE OTHER
15:32:11 OBJECTIVES THAT ARE IN THE COMP PLAN.
15:32:13 AND MAYBE WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT SO WELL SO FAR AND WE
15:32:16 NEED TO BE INVOKING A STRONGER REVIEW PROCESS IN ORDER TO
15:32:19 ENSURE THAT THEY ARE COMPATIBLE AND THAT THEY ARE NOT HAVING
15:32:24 ADVERSE IMPACTS ON TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
15:32:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN RESPECT WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
15:32:31 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM NOT SAYING THAT'S THE WHOLE SOLUTION.
15:32:33 I'M SAYING THAT I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE EVALUATION
15:32:37 CRITERIA AS WE LOOK AT THESE APPLICATIONS COMING BEFORE YOU,
15:32:40 AND I AM GOING TO BE WORKING WITH STAFF ON OUR TEAM TO BE
15:32:44 ENSURING THAT AS WE ARE GOING FORWARD, WE ARE ENSURING THAT
15:32:48 OUR ANALYSIS ARE ENCOMPASSING THOSE ELEMENTS AS THEY COME
15:32:54 BEFORE KNEW THOSE STAFF REPORTS.
15:32:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I CAN RESPECT WHAT YOU JUST SAID,
15:32:58 MAYBE WE ARE NOT DOING A TOTAL ASSESSMENT OF THE PROCESS.
15:33:01 I MEAN, WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING.
15:33:04 I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT AN EXPERT.
15:33:08 YOU GUYS ARE.
15:33:09 WE DEPEND ON YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS.
15:33:12 CATE DOES A GOOD JOB OF PHONE CALLS AND THIS AND THAT AND
15:33:17 CRITERIA SO I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THE JOB SHE DOES, TOO.
15:33:21 WE MIGHT BE MISSING SOMETHING.
15:33:22 AGAIN, YOU SAY WE HAVE ALL THE TOOLS.
15:33:24 WELL, MY OPINION, WHEN WE SAY THAT, I NEED THAT TOOL.
15:33:28 SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT TOOL, AND WE LOOK AT THIS COMP PLAN
15:33:32 TO LOOK AT CHANGING SOMETHING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR
15:33:35 WHATEVER IT IS, TO LOOK IT A IT SO WE CAN HAVE THESE TOOLS
15:33:38 IN OUR TOOL BOX, SO WHEN THESE COMMUNITIES COMPLAIN -- IT IS
15:33:41 THEIR COMMUNITY.
15:33:42 I KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN AND DO CERTAIN THINGS.
15:33:45 BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT
15:33:48 TOOLS.
15:33:49 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY.
15:33:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:33:51 >>CAROLE POST: IF I MAY, JUST TO ADD --
15:34:00 AT THE OCTOBER 22ND WORKSHOP, THE ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION WAS
15:34:07 A TEMPORARY -- IT WAS A LITANY OF IDEAS THAT WERE READY TO
15:34:12 BE ADDRESSED WHICH WOULD BE A TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF
15:34:16 VARIANCES AND REZONINGS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
15:34:20 SO REALLY, HIGHLIGHTING WHAT ABBEY SAID IS TO BUILD BY RIGHT
15:34:28 IS NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD SUPPORT HAVING A MORATORIUM
15:34:32 AROUND.
15:34:33 WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING IS THOSE AREAS WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT
15:34:39 OR THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO VARY FROM WHAT THE RIGHT THAT
15:34:42 THEY HAVE IS WHAT SEEMS TO BE CREATING SOME COMPLEXITY, AND
15:34:47 THAT IS WHERE THERE ARE SOME TOOLS THAT CAN STRENGTHEN THE
15:34:50 CRITERIA AROUND WHICH YOU ARE EMPOWERED TO EITHER GRANT OR
15:34:55 NOT GRANT THOSE EXCEPTIONS.
15:35:03 IN ADDITION, EVERYTHING WE JUST PRESENTED REFLECTS THAT WE
15:35:05 DO NOT HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THAT WE WOULD WANT IN OUR TOOLKIT.
15:35:14 THAT IS WHY WE HAVE NEW RESOURCES AND RENEWED ATTENTION TO
15:35:17 OUR COMP PLAN AND THE CONSISTENCY IT HAS WITH OUR LAND USE
15:35:20 DESIGNATIONS AND SO ON.
15:35:22 SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE A FEW YEARS BEHIND IN GIVING
15:35:25 YOU A FULL SLATE OF TOOLS THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE
15:35:30 THE CITY'S LAND USE TO MATCH OUR STRATEGIC VISION FOR THE
15:35:34 CITY.
15:35:36 BUT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE IN UNISON, WILL HELP US GET THERE.
15:35:43 AND THESE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
15:35:45 BUT YOU SEE THAT THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THIS NOW.
15:35:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. WELLS.
15:35:50 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL, INDICATE
15:35:55 WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
15:35:57 I WANT TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I HEARD.
15:35:59 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
15:36:02 REZONINGS THAT YOU WERE UNABLE TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT
15:36:05 IT WANTED.
15:36:06 WHEN CITY COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING A REZONING, YOU ARE NOT
15:36:09 MAKING A LEGISLATIVE DECISION, YOU ARE MAKING A
15:36:13 QUASI-JUDICIAL DECISION, AND COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO REVIEW
15:36:15 THE APPLICATION AGAINST THE STANDARDS AND THE LAND
15:36:19 DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT APPLY TO EVERY CLASS AND TO MAKE A
15:36:23 FINDING OF COMPATIBILITY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
15:36:27 YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT IT WANTS,
15:36:30 BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF APPLICATION YOU ARE REVIEWING.
15:36:34 SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
15:36:37 AND CERTAINLY RANDY AND ABBEY TALKED ABOUT THE PLANNING
15:36:42 EFFORTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE
15:36:44 ISSUES THAT COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED ITS SATISFACTION WITH SO
15:36:49 THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT DIFFERENTLY IN THE FUTURE.
15:36:53 JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION WITH REGARD TO
15:36:56 REZONINGS AND WHAT -- COUNCILMAN GUDES, I KNOW YOU NOTICE
15:37:01 THAT BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
15:37:03 BUT FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION, I THOUGHT IT WAS
15:37:06 IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT.
15:37:08 TO THE EXTENT THAT COUNCIL WISHES TO CONSIDER A MORATORIUM,
15:37:12 WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
15:37:13 I CAN TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL STANDARD.
15:37:16 BUT AS CAROLE POST MENTIONED AND ABBEY AND RANDY, IT'S NOT
15:37:20 SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING MOVING
15:37:23 FORWARD WHILE WE ARE UNDERGOING THE OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS.
15:37:26 THANK YOU.
15:37:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CATE.
15:37:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON THEN COUNCILMAN
15:37:33 DINGFELDER.
15:37:33 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
15:37:36 I SHARE THE CONCERNS OF MY COLLEAGUES, IN PARTICULAR ABOUT
15:37:40 SOUTH GANDY.
15:37:41 I MET WITH THE SOUTH GANDY FOLKS AND LOTS OF OTHER
15:37:45 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS MANY TIMES AND HEARD THEIR
15:37:47 CONCERNS.
15:37:47 AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF
15:37:51 INCLUDING A LONG CONVERSATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO ABOUT THIS
15:37:53 ISSUE, AND I HAVE ALSO ASKED THE STAFF TO MEET WITH
15:37:58 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT SEVERAL TIMES
15:38:01 ALSO, AND I THINK THAT THIS TEAM IS IN EARNEST TRYING TO
15:38:04 FIND A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.
15:38:07 I SHARE EVERYONE'S FRUSTRATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO COME UP
15:38:10 WITH A QUICK FIX.
15:38:11 WITHOUT GETTING INTO A LONG CONVERSATION HERE RIGHT NOW, MY
15:38:14 SENSE IS THAT WITH THIS TEAM ON BOARD AND MAYBE THE FOLKS
15:38:18 THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ADD, THEY WANT TO FIND LONG-TERM
15:38:22 SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS, NOT JUST A QUICK FIX SOLUTION THAT MIGHT
15:38:26 GET US SUED, AND MIGHT BE EASILY UNDONE.
15:38:29 SO I THINK WITH THE PRESENTATION THEY ARE GIVING AND THE
15:38:33 OTHER IDEAS THAT I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT OFFLINE, WHICH I
15:38:36 WON'T DISCUSS NOW, I THINK THEY ARE GOING DOWN A PATH OF
15:38:40 COMING UP WITH VERY STRONG SOLUTIONS.
15:38:42 IT'S TAKING LONGER THAN ANYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD
15:38:45 LIKE, BUT I THINK THAT THE SOLUTIONS WILL BE BETTER FOR THE
15:38:50 LONG-TERM FOR EVERYBODY.
15:38:51 THANK YOU.
15:38:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
15:38:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
15:39:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CATE, I THINK YOU HIT IT ON THE NAIL
15:39:02 HEAD AND THAT'S I THINK THE POINT OF THE COMMUNITY AND I
15:39:04 THINK THAT'S THE POINT OF COUNCIL, IS THAT THE STANDARDS IN
15:39:08 THE CODE AND THE STANDARDS IN THE COMP PLAN ARE INEFFECTIVE
15:39:16 TO LIMIT OR PROHIBIT MUCH OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, AND WE SAW IT
15:39:20 IN THREE CLEAR CASES.
15:39:22 AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO REHASH THOSE CASES.
15:39:26 YOU KNOW, THEY ARE DONE, AND IT'S IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR.
15:39:30 BUT WE LIVED IT AND THE COMMUNITY LIVED IT.
15:39:34 AND I'M NOT SAYING -- I KNOW ALL TOO WELL, THE LAW SAYS WE
15:39:38 CAN'T ALWAYS MAKE THE COMMUNITY HAPPY, AND THAT SORT OF
15:39:41 THING.
15:39:42 BUT THIS IS LIFE-SAFETY ISSUE.
15:39:44 THIS IS A LIFE-SAFETY ISSUE OF EVACUATION.
15:39:49 PERIOD.
15:39:49 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING DESIGN.
15:39:51 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING.
15:39:52 I'M TALKING ABOUT EVACUATION.
15:39:54 AND EVACUATION FROM A PENINSULA THAT'S VERY UNIQUE.
15:39:58 OKAY.
15:39:59 I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER PLACES AROUND THE STATE
15:40:01 THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF CONCENTRATION OF PEOPLE LIVING IN A
15:40:09 PENINSULA LIKE THIS THAT IS NOT ONLY SUBJECT TO STORM SURGE,
15:40:14 BUT WE ARE SUBJECT TO THE EVACUATION FROM PINELLAS AS WELL.
15:40:17 SO WHEN THEY START FLOODING OVER -- COMING OVER THOSE
15:40:21 BRIDGES OF GANDY AND HOWARD FRANKLAND INTO OUR PENINSULA,
15:40:26 THAT DOUBLY CHOKES UP THAT PENINSULA.
15:40:29 AND I'M GLAD YOU HAD THE MAP UP WITH THOSE BRIGHT RED
15:40:32 COLORS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
15:40:36 I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE FOR A TEMPORARY
15:40:38 MORATORIUM.
15:40:39 I THINK I REMEMBER THIS EXERCISE BACK IN THE EARLY 2000S AND
15:40:45 I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CONTEXT WAS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
15:40:49 HEAR WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE.
15:40:51 IF YOU GUYS WERE WILLING TO PUT IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER TWO
15:40:55 MONTHS AGO, AT LEAST AS A SUGGESTION, THEN I AM GOING TO
15:40:58 ASSUME THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO ESTABLISH AS A
15:41:03 MATTER OF POLICY THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE TEMPORARY
15:41:07 MORATORIUM.
15:41:07 AND IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT WITH US ON IT, IT'S
15:41:12 UNFORTUNATE.
15:41:13 I'M NOT GOING TO THROW STONES, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BECAUSE
15:41:16 THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE FEARS OF THAT COMMUNITY.
15:41:23 AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY, 150,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE
15:41:27 IN THAT PENINSULA.
15:41:31 SO, YES, MS. WELLS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, WITH COUNCIL'S
15:41:34 BLESSING, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE FOR
15:41:37 THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM.
15:41:38 >>CATE WELLS: CERTAINLY.
15:41:43 AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO
15:41:47 ADOPT A MORATORIUM AT THE PROPER EXERCISE OF ITS LEASE POWER
15:41:53 IF IT CAN BE DEMONSTRATED AND IT'S INTENDED TO PRESERVE OR
15:41:56 PROTECT THE SAFETY AND HEALTH.
15:42:00 SINCE THE MORATORIUM WILL AFFECT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS,
15:42:03 IT'S IMPORTANT TO EXERCISE CAUTION AND TO COMPLY WITH THE
15:42:06 FOLLOWING LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, AND THESE ARE REQUIREMENTS
15:42:10 THAT I HAVE PULLED BASED ON CASES INVOLVING MORATORIUMS.
15:42:17 THE MORATORIUM MUST BE ADOPTED IN GOOD FAITH AN SHOULD NOT
15:42:19 BE DISCRIMINATORY.
15:42:21 IT SHOULD BE BASED ON FACTS WHICH DEMONSTRATE THE NEED FOR A
15:42:24 MORATORIUM.
15:42:25 IT MUST BE LIMITED IN DURATION AND MAY ONLY BE ADOPTED IN
15:42:28 STRICT ACCORDANCE WESTBOUND THE PROCEDURES IN SECTION
15:42:32 166.041 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES, APPLICABLE TO THE ADOPTION
15:42:37 OF ZONING REGULATIONS.
15:42:40 FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION OF MORATORIUM, THE CITY MUST
15:42:43 EXPEDITIOUSLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NECESSARY LEGISLATION TO
15:42:46 ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OR ISSUE WHICH CAUSED THE CITY TO RESORT
15:42:50 TO A MORATORIUM.
15:42:52 I THINK WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING
15:42:55 ABOUT TODAY, CITY COUNCIL MUST MAKE SEVERAL DETERMINATIONS
15:42:58 BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THE MORATORIUM.
15:43:02 FIRST, YOU MUST IDENTIFY THE TYPE OF MORATORIUM YOU WISH TO
15:43:06 PROPOSE.
15:43:06 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING PERMITS?
15:43:08 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT REZONINGS?
15:43:09 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS?
15:43:12 AND THE TYPE OF MORATORIUM HAS TO NECESSARILY RELATE TO THE
15:43:15 PROBLEM YOU ARE SEEKING TO RESOLVE.
15:43:19 SO WITHIN THE MORATORIUM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM,
15:43:22 AND HOW THE ADOPTION OF THE MORATORIUM IS GOING TO REMEDY
15:43:25 THAT PROBLEM.
15:43:28 FINALLY THE DURATION OF THE MORATORIUM IS CRITICAL.
15:43:32 ANYTIME YOU HAVE A LONGER TERM MORATORIUM, AND THAT THE CITY
15:43:36 IS NOT AGGRESSIVELY PURSUING, RESEARCHING AND IMPLEMENTING
15:43:40 THE REGULATIONS INTENDED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, THERE IS A
15:43:45 QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THE MORATORIUM IS ADOPTED IN GOOD
15:43:48 FAITH.
15:43:50 WHEN I LOOKED AT HOW DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS HAD GONE
15:43:53 THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY ADOPTING A MORATORIUM, THE
15:43:56 MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH IS A TWO-STEP PROCESS, WHERE CITY
15:44:00 COUNCIL WOULD FIRST ADOPT A RESOLUTION, FIRST GOING INTO THE
15:44:07 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, DIRECTING STAFF TO PREPARE AN
15:44:08 ORDINANCE AND DELAY PROCESSING OF ANY APPLICATIONS, AGAIN
15:44:12 DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF MORATORIUM YOU SEEK TO PURSUE.
15:44:15 SO A DELAY PROCESSING OF THOSE APPLICATIONS FROM THE DATE OF
15:44:19 THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION UNTIL THE PENDING MORATORIUM
15:44:24 ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED.
15:44:25 AND THEN THE SECOND STEP IS TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE
15:44:29 ESTABLISHING THE MORATORIUM IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION
15:44:32 166.041.
15:44:34 AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE TWO ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH
15:44:38 NOTICE IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARINGS AND ONE OF THOSE HEARINGS
15:44:41 BE HELD AT LEAST AFTER 5 P.M.
15:44:47 THAT IS JUST VERY QUICKLY UNDER THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, THE
15:44:51 ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED BY CITY COUNCIL BEFORE MAKING THAT
15:44:54 DECISION, AND THEN HOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT OR ADOPT
15:44:59 THE MORATORIUM -- OR THE MORATORIUM.
15:45:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, GOT TO REMEMBER ALL OF THAT, HUH?
15:45:13 >>CATE WELLS: RESEARCHED.
15:45:14 THANK YOU.
15:45:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS GOOD AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION
15:45:17 WHEN EVERYBODY IS DONE TALKING.
15:45:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
15:45:20 ANYTHING ELSE?
15:45:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAVE A MOTION?
15:45:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:45:28 I KNOW I GET A LITTLE PASSIONATE, A LITTLE EMOTIONAL, AND I
15:45:32 APOLOGIZE IF IT OFFENDS ANYBODY.
15:45:34 BUT WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, I THINK IT'S
15:45:36 IMPORTANT, AND WE HAVE JUST BEEN THROUGH A HURRICANE SEASON
15:45:42 THAT NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN BEFORE.
15:45:43 THEY RAN OUT OF LETTERS, AND THEY WENT INTO -- WHO KNOWS
15:45:47 WHAT THOSE LETTERS WERE, AND WE ALMOST GOT HIT WITH THAT ONE
15:45:51 THAT WAS ALMOST OUTSIDE OF HURRICANE SEASON.
15:45:53 THESE ARE VERY REAL ISSUES.
15:45:55 AND THEY ARE ISSUES OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
15:45:58 WHICH IF WE ARE NOT HERE FOR ANY OTHER REASON, WE ARE HERE
15:46:01 FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
15:46:02 SO I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO START THE
15:46:09 PROCESS AND PREPARE A RESOLUTION FOR OUR NEXT MEETING IN TWO
15:46:16 WEEKS, AND PREPARE THE RESOLUTION BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING
15:46:23 CRITERIA, AND MS. WELLS, I APPRECIATE YOUR RESEARCH, BUT IT
15:46:28 APPEARS OBVIOUSLY THAT IT'S NOT DISCRIMINATORY EXCEPT FOR
15:46:32 THE FACT THAT WE ARE PROBABLY -- I THINK WE THINK WANT TO
15:46:35 ADDRESS MULTIFAMILY, LARGER THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS.
15:46:38 I MEAN I don't think we need to address duplexes or even a
15:46:42 quad or something like that, but maybe it's multifamily
15:46:45 projects larger than four units.
15:46:49 I don't think that's particularly discriminatory.
15:46:54 I think that's just fact based.
15:46:56 If you have multifamily, it's going to have a bigger impact
15:46:59 on evacuation.
15:47:02 The facts are very clear.
15:47:05 You know, we have a problem.
15:47:07 We have an evacuation problem.
15:47:11 I think it's been well proven and well stated that adding
15:47:19 additional density is just going to exacerbate the problem.
15:47:24 So we have a significant problem.
15:47:27 IN TERMS OF DURATION, I WILL LET LEGAL COME UP WITH A
15:47:29 RECOMMENDATION, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST PERHAPS IT'S A ONE-YEAR,
15:47:33 ULTIMATELY A ONE-YEAR MORATORIUM IN THE ULTIMATE ORDINANCE,
15:47:37 AND THAT WILL GIVE EVERYBODY ENOUGH TIME TO ADDRESS THE
15:47:41 ISSUES THAT NEED ADDRESSING, AND THE ISSUES THAT NEED
15:47:44 ADDRESSING IS TO -- IS TO ADDRESS THE COMP PLAN AND OUR
15:47:52 ZONING CODE, SO IT WILL GIVE US THE TOOLS TO EVALUATE ALL OF
15:47:59 THE ISSUES INCLUDING EVACUATION, WHICH ARE NOT ADEQUATELY --
15:48:04 CURRENTLY NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED IN THE ZONING CODE OR IN
15:48:07 THE COMP PLAN.
15:48:08 AND THEN FINALLY, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THIS ONLY APPLY TO
15:48:12 REZONINGS, FUTURE REZONINGS, AND FUTURE COMP PLAN
15:48:15 AMENDMENTS, NOT BUILDING PERMITS.
15:48:17 IF SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS THE ZONING THEY NEED AND ALL THEY
15:48:20 HAVE TO DO IS PULL THE BUILDING PERMIT, I AM NOT GOING TO
15:48:24 SUGGEST THAT WE REMOVE THAT RIGHT.
15:48:27 BUT ANY FUTURE REZONINGS OR COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS
15:48:31 PROSPECTIVELY, I WOULD SAY, WOULD BE -- THAT WE WOULD APPLY
15:48:36 THIS TEMPORARY MORATORIUM TO.
15:48:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
15:48:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER CRITERIA IS HOW
15:48:42 FAR, WHERE DOES IT START GEOGRAPHICALLY?
15:48:48 I WILL LET STAFF GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT, BUT LIKE
15:48:50 I SAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST A SOUTH OF GANDY
15:48:54 ISSUE.
15:48:55 I THINK IT MIGHT BE A SOUTH OF BECAME TO BAY ISSUE.
15:49:00 MAYBE EVEN A SOUTH OF KENNEDY ISSUE.
15:49:02 NOT THAT THERE'S THAT MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE
15:49:07 CONSTRUCTION, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE BAYSHORE, BAYSHORE
15:49:12 HIGH-RISES THAT ADD DWINDLE PEOPLE.
15:49:14 SO I WILL LOOK TO STAFF FOR A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
15:49:17 BUT I WOULD SAY DON'T NECESSARILY LOOK AT IT AS SOUTH OF
15:49:20 GANDY.
15:49:20 IT MIGHT BE EUCLID, EL PRADO, BAY TO BAY, OR EVEN KENNEDY.
15:49:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
15:49:28 CARLSON FOR DECEMBER 17th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
15:49:32 >>CATE WELLS: MR. CHAIRMAN, INDICATE WELLS, DECEMBER
15:49:36 17th THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT THAT RESOLUTION IS TOMORROW
15:49:40 SO I AM GOING TO NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, ESPECIALLY IF
15:49:43 YOU ARE DEFERRING THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA TO BE ADDRESSED BY
15:49:47 STAFF.
15:49:48 SO I WOULD ASK -- THE FIRST REGULAR MEETING IN JANUARY.
15:49:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
15:49:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:50:01 I LISTENED VERY INTENSELY.
15:50:04 AND WHEN YOU ASK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK YOU HAVE
15:50:06 TO COMPARE IT TO THE REST OF THE CITY.
15:50:08 AND THIS IS JUST AN OPINION OF ONE WHO IS NOT AN ENGINEER,
15:50:12 WHO IS NOT A STORM FORECASTER, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
15:50:15 WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA, HOW DO YOU MOVE IN AND OUT?
15:50:18 YOU HAVE ONLY GOT TWO BRIDGES AND THE CAUSEWAY EAST AND
15:50:23 WEST.
15:50:24 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXPRESSWAY SYSTEM AND YOU LOOK AT THE
15:50:27 ROADWAYS GOING NORTH, WHICH I GUESS YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
15:50:30 GO NORTH, YOU ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GO WEST, WHERE IS
15:50:34 THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN SOUTH TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, DOWNTOWN
15:50:38 TAMPA, YBOR CITY, AND NORTH TAMPA?
15:50:42 I SAY THE VARIANT WOULD BE SMALL TO NONE.
15:50:44 BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET CLOGGED IT'S NOT COME FROM TAMPA, IT'S
15:50:50 GOING TO BE FROM THE COMMUNITIES AROUND TAMPA THAT THE
15:50:52 HIGHWAYS ARE ALREADY CLOGGED.
15:50:53 LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
15:50:54 WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR EXPRESSWAYS RIGHT NOW TODAY AND YOU
15:50:58 LOOK FROM 3:30 TO 5:45 OR 6:00, THAT'S JUST NORMAL TRAFFIC.
15:51:04 AND WHEN YOU COME HEADING EAST FROM THE WEST SIDE, WHAT
15:51:10 HAPPENS?
15:51:13 THERE'S A SNAIL CRAWL THROUGH THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM ALL THE
15:51:15 WAY THROUGH DOWNTOWN UNTIL YOU GET SOMEWHERE PAST AT LEAST
15:51:20 SLIGH AVENUE OR FURTHER NORTH.
15:51:24 IF YOU GO EAST, IF YOU HEAD EAST, WHEN THE COMMUNITY IS
15:51:30 ALREADY -- THAT EXPRESSWAY, INTERSTATE 4, CANNOT HANDLE THE
15:51:35 TRAFFIC IT HAS NOW.
15:51:37 SO WHEN YOU HAVE A RUSH, HOWEVER, ON THE GOOD SIDE OF
15:51:41 THINGS -- I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL JUST
15:51:44 SAYING ALL THINGS ARE NEGATIVE.
15:51:46 ON THE GOOD SIDE OF THINGS, IF IT'S A HURRICANE, YOU HAVE
15:51:48 GOT TWO OR THREE DAYS TO SKIP.
15:51:52 NOW, IF YOU ARE SMART, AND THINK OF THE FAMILY AND THINK
15:51:56 OF -- FORGET ABOUT THE LONG TIME AND FORGET ABOUT THE END
15:52:00 TIME AND NOW THAT HURRICANE, YOU HAVE GOT 24 HOURS THAT IT'S
15:52:03 COMING THIS WAY, OR THE PROXIMITY, YOU BETTER LEAVE THEN, NO
15:52:08 MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, SOUTH TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA,
15:52:11 DOWNTOWN TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, ANYWHERE, YOU HAVE TO LEAVE
15:52:15 WHEN THEY TELL YOU.
15:52:17 WE CAN'T EVEN WEAR A MASK NOW ON AND OFF.
15:52:20 THAT'S WHY THE VIRUS IS SPREADING SO QUICKLY.
15:52:22 AND THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE SOMETIMES GET STUCK.
15:52:26 LOUISIANA GOT HIT THREE TIMES, SOME DIRECTLY, SOME
15:52:30 INDIRECTLY.
15:52:31 AND THE PEOPLE THAT LEFT, WHEN THEY CAME BACK, THEY HAD VERY
15:52:34 LITTLE, BUT THEY HAD THEIR LIVES.
15:52:36 THE ONES THAT DID NOT LEAVE, SOME OF THEM, DIDN'T HAVE
15:52:40 ANYTHING, INCLUDING THEIR LIFE.
15:52:42 SO WE TAKE A LOT OF THINGS FOR GRANTED IN THIS WONDERFUL
15:52:44 COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN, AND WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO LIVE HERE
15:52:48 COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
15:52:49 JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.
15:52:51 BUT WHEN YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE GOT TO
15:52:54 HAVE A TIMETABLE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY THAT MAKE UP THIS
15:52:58 GREAT CITY, WHAT IS THE TIMETABLE FOR THEM TO MOVE?
15:53:01 AND I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE TIMETABLE FROM LEAVING CENTRAL
15:53:05 TAMPA FROM DOWNTOWN TO ANYWHERE ELSE IS WITHIN MINUTES
15:53:09 BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE CLOGGED.
15:53:11 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE HERE UNLESS YOU LEAVE
15:53:13 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
15:53:15 AS YOU GO FURTHER NORTH, THE FURTHER YOU GO, THE MORE
15:53:19 DENSITY OF CARS.
15:53:21 ALREADY WHAT USED TO BE THE COUNTRY IS LIKE A SUBURB OF
15:53:25 SOMEWHERE ELSE.
15:53:25 YOU HAVE GOT WHOLE CITIES BEING BUILT IN DEVELOPMENT.
15:53:27 A THOUSAND HOMES, 2,000 HOMES, DIFFERENT THINGS.
15:53:32 NOW YOU HAVE GOT 56.
15:53:33 54.
15:53:34 52.
15:53:35 50.
15:53:35 USED TO BE ONE OF THEM GOING EAST AND WEST.
15:53:38 NOW YOU HAVE GOT FOUR.
15:53:39 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, AND IF YOU HEAD NORTH,
15:53:44 EATS COMING FROM THE NORTH TO SOUTH TO TAMPA, OR YOU ARE
15:53:47 HEADING NORTH AND GO TO OCALA OR GAINESVILLE OR SOMETHING
15:53:51 LIKE THAT, YOU LOOK AT THAT TO YOUR RIGHT ON 54, 56, WHAT
15:53:56 HAPPENED, ON THE ROAD LEADING UP THE ROADWAY GOING UP TO THE
15:54:01 EXPRESSWAY, I GUARANTEE YOU IT'S THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE
15:54:05 LONG.
15:54:05 AND IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY.
15:54:06 IT'S JUST SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO SOMEWHERE, GO TO WORK OR HAVE
15:54:09 SOME PLEASURE, WHATEVER.
15:54:11 SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, HOW ARE YOU GOING GET OUT?
15:54:14 YOU BETTER LEAVE WITH WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF TELLING US TO
15:54:19 LEAVE, TO LEAVE, AND YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE.
15:54:21 IF YOU LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, NORTH
15:54:24 TAMPA OR DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
15:54:27 I AM NOT AGAINST WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
15:54:29 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IF YOU STAY, GOD BLESS YOU.
15:54:35 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
15:54:37 SO YOU BETTER PACK YOUR BELONGINGS AND BE PREPARED AND
15:54:42 EVACUATE.
15:54:43 IF YOU DO NOT EVACUATE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE STUCK IN THE
15:54:47 HILLS.
15:54:47 AND THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY HILLS IN TAMPA.
15:54:50 HIGH WATER, IN MY OPINION -- AND I HATE TO SAY THIS --
15:54:54 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY.
15:54:56 ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES IN AMERICA.
15:55:00 YOU CAN LIVE THERE, DRIVE THERE.
15:55:01 YOU JUST FEEL SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
15:55:04 I CAN'T SAY BAYSHORE BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF WATER COMING IN
15:55:09 IS GREATER THAN THE VOLUME OF WATER GOING OUT.
15:55:12 THE PEOPLE WILL LEAVE.
15:55:18 DOWNTOWN WILL BE UNDERWATER, NOT IN INCH INCHES BUT IN FEET.
15:55:23 BY LOOKING AT THE MAP.
15:55:24 WHAT I SAW HERE.
15:55:26 IN THE COASTAL AREAS ARE GOING TO BE FLOOD FLOODED AND MAYBE
15:55:30 PARTIALLY DESTROYED, IF NOT DESTROYED IN TOTAL.
15:55:33 BECAUSE HURRICANES HAVE NO PREFERENCE OF YOU, I OR ANYONE
15:55:37 ELSE.
15:55:38 WHEN IT COMES, IT COMES.
15:55:40 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE HURRICANE SEASON THIS YEAR, IT WAS
15:55:44 ODD THAT YOU HAD TWO HURRICANES IN THE GULF AT THE SAME
15:55:46 TIME.
15:55:50 IF YOU LOOK AT THE HURRICANES THIS YEAR, WE HAD MORE NAMED
15:55:52 STORMS THAN I CAN REMEMBER.
15:55:55 WHY?
15:55:57 BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF ONE THING CALLED THE
15:56:00 ENVIRONMENT.
15:56:01 WE ARE CREATING SOMETHING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE EVERY
15:56:04 YEAR, AND WE TALK ABOUT IT, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS AND WE
15:56:07 ARE GOING TO DO THAT.
15:56:08 WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE WHAT WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO DO.
15:56:11 YEAH, WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
15:56:12 YES, WE BOUGHT HYBRIDS.
15:56:15 YES, WE ARE GOING TO BUY ELECTRIC CARS.
15:56:16 BUT IT TAKES MUCH MORE THAN BUYING ELECTRIC CARS AND BUYING
15:56:19 A HYBRID TO FIX WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND THIS WORLD,
15:56:22 REALLY.
15:56:22 WE ARE ALL WORRIED ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, KEEP IT
15:56:25 GOING, KEEP IT MOVING, KEEP DOING THIS, BUY THIS, SELL THIS,
15:56:28 THROW THIS AWAY.
15:56:30 BUT WE NEVER WORRY ABOUT THE PLASTIC THAT WE ARE PUTTING
15:56:33 DOWN THE DRAIN.
15:56:34 WE NEVER WORRY ABOUT THE STYROFOAM THAT DOESN'T BREAK UP.
15:56:38 THAT'S WHY A LOT OF RESTAURANTS ARE NOW, SOME THAT I HAVE
15:56:41 BEEN TO LATELY, WHEN THEY GIVE UP TAKEOUT TO TAKE HOME, IT'S
15:56:44 NOT THE OLD STYROFOAM, IT'S A MIXTURE OF SOME TYPE OF
15:56:48 CARDBOARD, THAT IF YOU LEAVE IT IN THE REFRIGERATOR IT WILL
15:56:52 DISAPPEAR BY ITSELF.
15:56:53 SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I AM LOOKING AT AND IT'S NOT
15:56:56 GOING TO SAVE THIS SOCIETY ONE I ON THE A IF THE TRAFFIC
15:57:00 NORTH OF US -- YOU CAN'T GO SOUTH.
15:57:02 THAT'S WHERE HURRICANES USED TO COME FROM.
15:57:04 YOU CAN'T GO WEST.
15:57:08 OR YOU ARE GOING TO GET STUCK NOWHERE.
15:57:09 YOU CAN ONLY GO EAST OR NORTH.
15:57:12 AND IF YOU GO EAST OR NORTH IN AND OUT, THIS POPULATION
15:57:15 THERE HAS QUADRUPLED FROM WHAT IT WAS JUST 15 YEARS AGO.
15:57:22 THERE'S MORE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED, MULTIPLE
15:57:25 CREATED, STADIUMS, THAT THEY EVEN HAD THIS YEAR, IN PASCO
15:57:30 COUNTY, YOU CAN GO DOWN SLIGH.
15:57:35 THEY WENT.
15:57:36 PEOPLE SHOULD GO.
15:57:37 SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
15:57:38 BUT WHAT I AM SAY -- TALKING ABOUT SAVING LIVES AND MOVING,
15:57:43 NOTICE THAT THE GOVERNMENT GIVES AND MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE
15:57:46 NOTICE IS THE INDIVIDUALS THAT RECEIVE THAT NOTICE, WHAT DO
15:57:48 THEY DO WITH IT?
15:57:50 THAT'S ALL, MR. CHAIRMAN.
15:57:51 THANK YOU.
15:57:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
15:57:52 I AM GOING TO HANDLE THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR A
15:57:57 MINUTE.
15:58:00 DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP?
15:58:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, I WANTED TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO MR.
15:58:04 MIRANDA.
15:58:05 CHARLIE, I AGREE WITH 95% OF EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
15:58:09 THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION THAT
15:58:12 YOU ASKED IS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOUTH TAMPA AND
15:58:14 THE PENINSULA AND THE REST OF THE CITY?
15:58:18 IT'S SORT OF AVERAGE ELEVATION.
15:58:20 BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS LIVED A LOT OF HIS LIFE IN SOUTH
15:58:23 TAMPA, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THE MAPS, THE AVERAGE
15:58:27 ELEVATION OF MANY HOUSES THROUGHOUT SOUTH TAMPA IS FIVE FEET
15:58:32 ABOVE SEA LEVEL, YOU KNOW, OR LESS.
15:58:35 AND THE MINUTE YOU GET UP NEAR THE INTERSTATE AND NORTH, OR
15:58:40 EVEN EAST, YOU ARE INTO TEN FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL, 15 FEET,
15:58:45 20 FEET, OR EVEN HIGHER IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
15:58:50 SO THE ONLY REASON I MENTION THAT IS LET'S SAY IF I AM
15:58:53 LIVING IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS, A HIGHER ELEVATION, 20 FEET OR
15:58:57 ABOVE, I MIGHT HAVE A CHOICE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT I WANT TO
15:59:00 STAY IN MY CINDERBLOCK HOUSE AND TRY AND RIDE IT OUT, WHAT
15:59:05 THEY CALL SHELTER IN PLACE F.I AM DOWN THERE IN THE
15:59:08 PENINSULA, I PRETTY MUCH DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, BECAUSE IF I
15:59:11 KNOW THAT STORM SURGE IS COMING, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ANYWHERE
15:59:15 GOD FORBID FIVE FEET OR TEN FEET OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE ARE IN
15:59:22 AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS SITUATION, KIND OF LIKE KATRINA.
15:59:26 AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
15:59:28 AND THAT'S WHY I AM MAKING THIS MOTION, IS BECAUSE THE
15:59:32 DANGER LEVEL IN THE PENINSULA IS UNIQUE, AND IT'S DRAMATIC,
15:59:40 AND IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE WAITED TOO LONG AND WE CAN'T WAIT
15:59:44 ANY LONGER.
15:59:47 SO THE OTHER ISSUES, LIKE I SAY, I AGREE WITH YOU
15:59:52 COMPLETELY.
15:59:56 MS. WELLS, ONE THING.
15:59:58 YOU MADE A GOOD POINT.
15:59:59 I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS FOR STAFF TO DECIDE, BECAUSE THE
16:00:02 ADMINISTRATION IS NOT REALLY THAT SUPPORTIVE RIGHT NOW.
16:00:07 SOCIETY WHAT I AM GOING TO CLARIFY ON THIS AT LEAST FOR
16:00:11 TODAY'S MOTION IS THAT THIS WOULD BE FROM BAY TO BAY SOUTH.
16:00:14 BAY TO BAY WOULD BE THE LINE.
16:00:19 OBVIOUSLY FROM ONE SIDE OF THE BAY TO THE OTHER.
16:00:23 SO THAT'S MY PENDING MOTION, MR. CITRO.
16:00:28 I THINK YOU ARE IN CHARGE.
16:00:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO THINK SO, BUT NO, I HAVE
16:00:33 JUST BEEN HANDED THE GAVEL.
16:00:34 WAS THERE A SECOND TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION?
16:00:38 CARLSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:00:39 THERE'S A MOTION BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,
16:00:41 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
16:00:44 IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
16:00:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LOOKS LIKE MRS. WELLS.
16:00:49 >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY, AGAIN, REQUESTING THAT THIS
16:00:53 RESOLUTION BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL IN TWO WEEKS JUST
16:00:57 REALLY DOESN'T GIVE MY OFFICE OR STAFF --
16:00:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M OKAY WITH --
16:01:01 >>CATE WELLS: BECAUSE THE DEADLINE IS TOMORROW.
16:01:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M OKAY WITH THE JANUARY SUGGESTION.
16:01:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THAT DATE AGAIN, FLEECE?
16:01:10 14th?
16:01:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
16:01:14 YES, MA'AM.
16:01:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AGAINST THE MOTION.
16:01:17 BUT WHAT I WANT TO SEE IN THIS MOTION GOING FORWARD, FIND
16:01:21 OUT, HAVE WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE AND HAS THE KNOWLEDGE IN
16:01:25 GOVERNMENT OR WHEREVER ALONG REQUEST THIS MOTION COMES BACK
16:01:29 SO THEY CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THE SCIENTIFIC AND WHAT THE
16:01:34 ELEVATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE FLOOD LEVELING AND THE
16:01:38 DESTRUCTION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN CASE A HURRICANE
16:01:40 COMES, NOT ONLY FOR THAT AREA SOUTH OF BAY TO BAY, WHICH WAS
16:01:43 FIRST ONE AREA WITH KENNEDY, THEN IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE,
16:01:47 THEN BAY TO BAY, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TIMETABLE IS FOR
16:01:52 EVACUATION AND OF WHAT THE FLOODING AREA IS, AND I AM SURE
16:01:56 THEY CAN FIND OUT.
16:01:57 I DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION
16:02:00 DOES, TO FIND OUT SO THAT I CAN SUPPORT THAT 110%.
16:02:05 I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR IT GOING UP ONLY IF IT HAS THAT
16:02:08 CLAUSE IN IT, THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT TAKES
16:02:12 TO EVACUATE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
16:02:14 I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT PROPERTY.
16:02:16 IF A PURPOSE COMES, PROPERTY TAKES SECOND FIDDLE TO LIFE.
16:02:20 JUST LIKE THE VIRUS AND IT COVID-19.
16:02:23 IT'S ONE IN THE SAME, BUT SOME OF US WEAR THE MASK AT TIMES
16:02:27 LIKE I DO, SOME OF US DON'T WEAR IT AT ALL.
16:02:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, I ACCEPT YOUR FRIENDLY
16:02:32 AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION TO INCLUDE -- IT WOULD SORT OF BE A
16:02:35 SIDE PART OF THE MOTION, BUT DEFINITELY ACCEPT IT.
16:02:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
16:02:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:02:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR.
16:02:47 THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO, MR. DINGFELDER, IF
16:02:50 WE ARE GOING TO DO ONE THING, BUT WE NEED AN EVALUATION AND
16:02:53 SAFETY, JUST IN CASE.
16:02:55 SO MR. MIRANDA BEING THE WISDOM PERSON HE IS, I AM GLAD YOU
16:03:03 WERE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE AND YOU ACCEPTED HIS
16:03:06 AMENDMENT, SIR.
16:03:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THE
16:03:09 MOTION.
16:03:09 IT'S BEEN SECONDED.
16:03:10 I BELIEVE DISCUSSION IS FINISHED AND IT'S READY TO BE VOTED
16:03:14 UPON?
16:03:20 >>CAROLE POST: MAY I MAKE A REQUEST TO THE MOTION MAKER,
16:03:24 THIS IS COMPLICATED MATERIAL.
16:03:26 IT'S BEEN ADDED TO WITH RESPECT TO, I THINK, RIGHTFULLY
16:03:31 ADDING IN SOME ELEMENTS OF FACT-BASED ASSESSMENT OF THE
16:03:35 NEED, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT MS. WELLS
16:03:39 REPRESENTED TO US.
16:03:41 GIVEN THE TASKS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US AND THE MANY TASKS
16:03:46 ALREADY ARTICULATED THAT WE ARE TACKLING HERE, I WOULD
16:03:50 RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A COUPLE MORE WEEKS AND PUSH THIS TO
16:03:53 EARLY FEBRUARY TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A MEANINGFUL RESPONSE,
16:03:58 AND FRANKLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE CONVERSATION, COUNCILMAN
16:04:03 DINGFELDER RAISED, WE DID PUT THIS AS A POTENTIAL ITEM FOR
16:04:09 DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION DURING THE WORKSHOP.
16:04:12 IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE DO NOT SUPPORT IT, BUT THERE
16:04:16 ARE COMPLEXITIES ACROSS THE GAMUT.
16:04:19 SO I THINK WE ALL WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST
16:04:23 INFORMATION AVAILABLE, AND THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR
16:04:26 ALL STAKEHOLDERS IN TERMS OF HOW WE REPRESENT THIS BACK TO
16:04:30 THE COUNCIL IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
16:04:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY HAND THE GAVEL BACK TO
16:04:40 YOU AND IF I MAY ADD TO THE COMMENTS.
16:04:42 I AGREE WITH MS. POST.
16:04:44 THIS IS A MAJOR UNDERTAKING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS,
16:04:49 IF NOT A FEW MOWER WEEKS AFTER THAT, AT LEAST INTO THE LATER
16:04:53 PART OF FEBRUARY, IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT WITH COUNCILMAN
16:04:56 DINGFELDER.
16:04:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAVE
16:04:58 FEBRUARY 4TH?
16:05:00 FEBRUARY 18th?
16:05:01 AND THEN WE GO INTO A WORKSHOP, WHICH THAT'S GOING TO BE A
16:05:05 BUSY DAY.
16:05:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
16:05:08 MY MOTION WILL STAND IN TERMS OF DIRECTING LEGAL TO DRAFT
16:05:13 THE APPROPRIATE RESOLUTION, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THE
16:05:17 ORDINANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM.
16:05:22 IF STAFF FEELS THEY NEED AN ADDITIONAL COUPLE OF WEEKS UNTIL
16:05:25 FEBRUARY 4th, I'M AMENABLE TO THAT.
16:05:28 I DON'T WANT -- FORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT IN HURRICANE SEASON,
16:05:34 YOU KNOW, ET CETERA.
16:05:35 BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT, MR. CITRO, AND MS. POST.
16:05:40 WHAT I AM NOT SAYING IS THAT, YEAH, LET'S JUST WAIT AND
16:05:46 TABLE THIS DISCUSSION.
16:05:47 THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM SAYING.
16:05:48 MY MOTION STANDS AS IT IS, BUT I WILL DEFER THE MOTION AND
16:05:54 LEGAL CAN COME BACK TO US FEBRUARY 4th.
16:05:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
16:05:59 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. WHO WAS THE SECOND?
16:06:01 >>BILL CARLSON: CARLSON.
16:06:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
16:06:06 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:06:07 ANY OPPOSED?
16:06:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO CLARIFY.
16:06:10 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU USED THE WORD DEFER.
16:06:13 DO YOU MEAN TO DEFER THE DATE THAT IT COMES BACK?
16:06:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAID I AM ONLY DEFERRING THE DATE THAT
16:06:19 IT COMES BACK.
16:06:19 I AM NOT DEFERRING ANY OTHER PART OF THE MOTION.
16:06:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
16:06:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
16:06:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE VOTE, MADAM CLERK?
16:06:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
16:06:36 THANK YOU.
16:06:36 ANYTHING ELSE?
16:06:37 ANYTHING ELSE OVER ON YOUR END?
16:06:39 >>RANDY GOERS: JUST TO GO TO THE FINAL SLIDE FOR A WRAP UP
16:06:47 OF OUR PROGRAM.
16:06:49 THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE PLANNED, TAKING INTO
16:06:53 CONSIDERATION THE MOTION AND WORK WITH LEGAL OF WHAT'S
16:06:55 REQUIRED ON FEBRUARY 4th AS WELL.
16:07:01 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE
16:07:04 LISTED, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
16:07:06 >>BILL CARLSON: RANDY AND DEPARTMENT, TO THE EXTENT THAT
16:07:11 YOU CAN PUT ANY OF THIS OR ALL OF THIS ON THE WEB AND GIVE
16:07:16 US A LINK TO IT, IT WOULD HELP BECAUSE THEN WE COULD POST IT
16:07:19 AND E-MAIL IT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS SO THEY WOULD BE AWARE OF
16:07:23 IT.
16:07:23 I KNOW YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE COMMUNICATING TOO.
16:07:26 BUT LINKS TO THE WEBSITE ARE REALLY EASY FOR US TO
16:07:30 DISTRIBUTE.
16:07:31 THANKS.
16:07:31 >> WE WILL DO THAT.
16:07:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:07:36 AND THAT'S IT?
16:07:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
16:07:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:07:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME THANK THE STAFF FOR THE WORK THEY
16:07:47 PRESENTED TODAY.
16:07:49 WE KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD.
16:07:53 BUT WE HAVE A JOB TO DO, TOO.
16:07:56 AND WE ARE DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL WE ARE THROWING THINGS AT
16:08:02 YOU BUT WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT COME FROM CITIZENS THAT
16:08:06 SEEM TO BE A VERY PRESSING NEED.
16:08:09 BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND YOUR WORK, AND YOU ARE WORKING VERY
16:08:12 HARD.
16:08:12 AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU WORK WITH US, AND WE'LL GET THROUGH
16:08:15 IT, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO GET SOME OF THESE THINGS ACCOMPLISHED
16:08:17 BECAUSE THESE ARE SO OF THE THINGS THAT THE VOTERS DID ASK
16:08:20 US TO DO.
16:08:22 ALL SEVEN CAN'T GIVE CITIZENS EVERYTHING THEY WANT ALL THE
16:08:26 TIME.
16:08:26 BUT WHEN A NECESSITY COMES TO CERTAIN NEEDS, WE HAVE TO TRY
16:08:30 AND TRY OUR BEST.
16:08:31 SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING, AND
16:08:34 WORK.
16:08:35 THAT I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO.
16:08:37 SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
16:08:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:08:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:08:41 ALL RIGHT.
16:08:42 DOES THAT SETTLE 66 AND 67?
16:08:45 IN ITS ENTIRETY?
16:08:48 >> YES.
16:08:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE SO.
16:08:50 ALL RIGHT.
16:08:50 WE GO TO OUR FINAL ITEM.
16:08:51 ITEM NUMBER 65.
16:08:55 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY SHELBY WAS GOING TO PRESENT AN AMENDED
16:08:57 RESOLUTION THAT REMOVES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, VOICE MAIL
16:09:02 OPTION FROM THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
16:09:04 MR. SHELBY.
16:09:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HATE TO BE THE BEARER OF
16:09:08 BAD NEWS BUT YOU ALSO SENT OUT A MEMO EARLIER IN THE WEEK ON
16:09:11 THE ADDENDUM REGARDING NEW BUSINESS GIVING DIRECTION TO
16:09:13 STAFF FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE RETURN OF SCHEDULING
16:09:18 VACATING PETITIONS AND REVIEW HEARINGS, DAYTIME MEETINGS.
16:09:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP DURING NEW
16:09:24 BUSINESS.
16:09:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
16:09:27 GREAT.
16:09:27 THEN LET'S GO TO THIS ONE, COUNCIL.
16:09:30 WHAT I HAVE FILED WITH THE CLERK, I FOUND A SCRIVENER'S
16:09:34 ERROR.
16:09:34 SO WHAT THE CLERK HAS IS A SUBSTITUTE TO CREATE A -- CORRECT
16:09:39 A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
16:09:40 DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE, MADAM CLERK?
16:09:44 JUST TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE PLEASE.
16:09:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE
16:09:48 SUBSTITUTE?
16:09:48 SECOND GUDES.
16:09:50 SECOND FROM CITRO.
16:09:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:09:53 ANY OPPOSED?
16:09:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, COUNCIL, THIS IS TO STRIKE IN YOUR
16:10:01 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE WHICH WERE CREATED IN APRIL FOR
16:10:03 THE PURPOSES OF A MEETING THAT WAS SOLELY VIRTUAL AT THE
16:10:09 TIME, AND THAT NOW THAT YOU ARE BACK IN PERSON YOU HAVE HAD
16:10:13 EXPERIENCE WITH THE EFFECT OF YOUR AGENDA AS A RESULT OF
16:10:18 COMING BACK TO IN-PERSON AND STILL ALLOWING COMMUNICATIONS
16:10:22 MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
16:10:25 SO IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO MAKE THIS OFFICIAL, I
16:10:27 PRESENT THIS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
16:10:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
16:10:32 I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.
16:10:33 YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CONTROL IT AND NONE OF US CAN, BUT I DON'T
16:10:39 THINK WE SHOULD BE MEETING IN PERSON BECAUSE WE ARE
16:10:41 APPROACHING SUCH A HIGH NUMBER OF POSITIVES COVID TESTING, I
16:10:44 BELIEVE ALMOST 10,000 YESTERDAY, WAS 9,000 AND CHANGE.
16:10:48 YES, I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND THERE'S
16:10:51 HOLIDAY TRAVEL AND THIS AND THAT BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T LOOK
16:10:54 LIKE THEY ARE GETTING BETTER, AT LEAST NOT WITHIN
16:10:56 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
16:10:57 I WISH WE COULD BE TOTALLY VIRTUAL.
16:10:59 I THINK THAT'S THE PRUDENT AND RIGHT THING TO DO IN ORDER TO
16:11:01 KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
16:11:02 HOWEVER, IT'S UP TO THE DECISION OF THE GOVERNOR, AND HERE
16:11:05 WE ARE IN THE FOUR-PERSON QUORUM WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A FULL
16:11:11 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
16:11:11 BUT WE HAVE THE KIOSK.
16:11:13 WE HAVE E-MAIL.
16:11:14 WE ARE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CALL IN TO REGISTER TO SPEAK.
16:11:17 PEOPLE CAN COME IN PERSON JUST LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR
16:11:20 DECADE.
16:11:21 SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF SOME INDIVIDUALS.
16:11:24 BUT THE VOICE MAIL OPTION WAS TEMPORARY WHILE WE WERE IN THE
16:11:28 VIRTUAL SETTING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS
16:11:31 PANDEMIC WAS GOING TO GO ON, AND IT'S CONTINUING, AND IT'S
16:11:34 CONTINUING FULL FORCE, WHICH I HOPE WE COME TO A CONCLUSION
16:11:39 AND A SOLUTION SOON.
16:11:42 HAVING SAID THAT, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
16:11:45 DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION ON THIS?
16:11:49 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION REGARDING
16:11:53 REMOVING THE VOICE MAIL OPTION?
16:11:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
16:11:58 RESOLUTION.
16:11:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
16:12:01 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
16:12:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
16:12:05 NOW CALL IN LIKE WE HAVE HAD TODAY IN THE PAST AND WHEN WE
16:12:10 GO TO THE NORMAL WAY, AS IT WAS BEFORE THE VIRUS CAME ON,
16:12:14 THAT THAT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT?
16:12:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST THE VOICE MAIL PORTION WHERE THEY
16:12:18 CAN CALL AND RECORD A MESSAGE.
16:12:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF I CAN.
16:12:26 THE CHAIRMAN IS CORRECT.
16:12:27 THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE TIMES, YOU MAY RECALL WHEN YOU
16:12:30 HAD A MEETING THAT WENT ON TILL 5:00, AND FORTUNATELY THAT
16:12:35 DAY THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE MULTIPLE RECORDINGS THAT WERE
16:12:40 STILL AWAITING THAT COUNCIL HADN'T HEARD, THAT DIDN'T APPLY.
16:12:44 NONE OF THAT APPLIED TO THE CONSENT DOCKET.
16:12:46 SO FORTUNATELY THOSE WERE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL AFTER THE
16:12:49 FACT.
16:12:50 BUT FLORIDA LAW DOES NOT ALLOW -- DOES NOT ALLOW THE USE OF
16:12:58 THE VOICE RECORDINGS AS THE SUBSTITUTE IF COUNCIL DOESN'T
16:13:02 HEAR THEM, AND THE ONLY WAY YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR THEM
16:13:04 IN ADVANCE OF A VOTE IS TO SIT DOWN AFTER THEY ARE
16:13:09 DISTRIBUTED TO YOU ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT TO LISTEN TO ALL THE
16:13:12 RECORDINGS, AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THE CLERK HAS TO DO TO BE
16:13:15 ABLE TO DO THAT, WE FOUND, IS SUBSTANTIAL.
16:13:19 SO, NO, SIR, IT ONLY APPLIES TO RECORDED VOICE MAILS THAT
16:13:26 WERE ON A DEDICATED LINE.
16:13:28 IT DOES NOT INVOLVE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK LIVE VIA COMMUNICATIONS
16:13:33 MEDIA TECHNOLOGY REMOTELY AND DO IT SO DURING THE MEETING,
16:13:38 IN YOUR PRESENCE, ON THE SCREEN -- EXCUSE ME, ON THE PHONE
16:13:41 AS OF NOW.
16:13:45 I THINK THAT WAS A LONG ANSWER TO A SHORT QUESTION.
16:13:48 I'M SORRY.
16:13:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO
16:13:53 ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION?
16:13:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON IT.
16:14:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
16:14:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M VERY TORN ON IT.
16:14:05 ON THE ONE HAND, OUR MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, GET EXTREMELY LONG,
16:14:11 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE LISTENING TO PEOPLE IN PERSON, AND
16:14:14 THEN WE ARE LISTENING TO THEM WHEN THEY CALL IN LIVE, AND
16:14:18 THEN I CAN'T REMEMBER, THIS MORNING, DID WE HAVE IT
16:14:21 RECORDED?
16:14:21 WE DIDN'T.
16:14:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, WE DID NOT.
16:14:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UP UNTIL TODAY AND WE HAD ANOTHER HALF
16:14:27 OUR OR HOUR OR RECORDED CALLS, AND THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT.
16:14:31 EVERYBODY'S INPUT IS IMPORTANT.
16:14:33 BUT FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF
16:14:36 BUSINESS TO CONDUCT, AND IT PUSHES US INTO A LONG DAY, KIND
16:14:42 OF LIKE TODAY IS BECOMING.
16:14:44 SO I'M VERY TORN.
16:14:47 BUT THEN SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID I'M NOT AVAILABLE AT 9:00,
16:14:53 10:00 IN THE MORNING, I HAVE GOT TO GO TO WORK.
16:14:55 AND I DON'T WANT TO COME DOWN THERE AND DEAL WITH THE RISK.
16:15:00 AND THEREFORE THEIR ALTERNATIVE WAS TO LEAVE US A VOICE
16:15:03 MAIL, A VOICE MESSAGE THAT GOT BROADCAST PUBLICLY.
16:15:07 SO THAT'S WHERE I AM TORN.
16:15:10 I'M LEANING TOWARD DURING COVID TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS
16:15:18 VOICE CALL-IN DURING COVID, AND THEN HOPEFULLY, MAYBE COVID
16:15:23 STARTS EASING UP IN THE LATE WINTER, EARLY SPRING, THEN WE
16:15:28 CAN GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF.
16:15:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:15:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THESE DECISIONS ARE NEVER, NEVER EASY.
16:15:41 WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE EVERYBODY
16:15:43 WANTS TO BE HEARD.
16:15:45 WE MADE A DECISION A WEEK AGO, IN THINKING BACK NOW, I KNOW
16:15:52 IT'S A LOT OF WORK ON STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
16:15:57 I KNOW SULING IS WORKING HER FINGERS TO THE BONE.
16:16:01 I KNOW SHE IS.
16:16:02 I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF OF STAFF CAN LEND A HAND AND HELP
16:16:05 US TO MAYBE GET PAST THIS SECTION RIGHT NOW SINCE WE HAVE
16:16:09 THE COVID.
16:16:11 MR. DINGFELDER IS RIGHT.
16:16:11 I HAD A CALL LAST NIGHT FROM MS. COPELAND ABOUT AN ISSUE
16:16:16 WITH CRA, SO IT IS AN ISSUE, SOME FOLKS ARE AFRAID TO COME
16:16:20 OUT, SOME OF THEM ARE WORKING, AND SOME OF THEM JUST CAN'T
16:16:24 GET DURING WORK HOURS, THEY HAVE AN ISSUE.
16:16:28 I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
16:16:30 MAYBE WE SHOULD TABLE THIS, GENTLEMEN, UNTIL WE HEAR FROM
16:16:34 CHIEF OF STAFF AND MAYBE GTE GIVE THE CLERK'S OFFICE SOME
16:16:36 HELP OVER THERE OR SOMETHING IF THAT'S THE CASE AS IT
16:16:39 RELATES TO TRYING TO GET THESE VOICE MAILS.
16:16:41 I REALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
16:16:43 BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE THE PUBLIC FROM MAKING THEIR
16:16:46 COMMENTS.
16:16:48 EVEN THOUGH THEY COMPLAIN, BUT I HAVE GOTTEN SOME CALLS ON
16:16:52 IT.
16:16:54 NOT AFRAID OF MAKING A DECISION.
16:16:55 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION DURING
16:16:58 THE COVID RATE NOW.
16:16:59 AND MICHELLE IS LOOKING AT ME SO MAYBE YOU HAVE SO WORDS
16:17:03 THAT YOU WANT TO SAY.
16:17:04 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
16:17:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
16:17:08 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS ISN'T ABOUT WHEN WE WANT TO LISTEN TO
16:17:11 PUBLIC INPUT OR NOT.
16:17:13 I CAN TELL YOU MY DAY JOB IS ABOUT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND
16:17:16 PUBLIC -- THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER SOMEONE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED
16:17:21 IN A PUBLIC FORUM TO VOICE THEIR VIEWS TO THE PUBLIC, NOT TO
16:17:25 US.
16:17:27 WE HEAR E-MAILS.
16:17:28 WE GET E-MAILS ALL DAY LONG.
16:17:30 WE GET FLOODED WITH HE MAILS.
16:17:32 WE GET VOICE MAILS ON OUR CELL PHONES.
16:17:34 WE GET VOICE MAILS AT OUR OFFICES.
16:17:37 WE GET LETTERS THAT PEOPLE SEND.
16:17:39 WE GET PACKAGES THAT PEOPLE DROP OFF.
16:17:42 WE HOLD MEETINGS OF PEOPLE, VIRTUAL MEETINGS, ZOOM MEETINGS,
16:17:45 PHONE MEETINGS, IN-PERSON MEETINGS.
16:17:47 WE ATTEND PUBLIC GATHERINGS.
16:17:49 WE ARE ACCESSIBLE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
16:17:52 IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC OR
16:17:54 NOT.
16:17:55 WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FROM THE PUBLIC.
16:17:57 THE NORMAL PROCESS IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN
16:18:01 FRONT OF THE LIVE AUDIENCE, IF YOU WANT TO ENGAGE US TO OUR
16:18:04 FACE, WHICH IS THE AMERICAN WAY, THEN YOU ALWAYS HAVE A
16:18:10 CHOICE TO SHOW UP IN PERSON.
16:18:11 NOW, WE ARE PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL CHOICE, WHICH IS IF YOU
16:18:14 ARE AFRAID OF COVID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW UP IN PERSON,
16:18:17 YOU CAN DO IT BY GO-TO-MEETING WHICH IS A ZOOM TOOL.
16:18:22 SO WE ARE PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO NOT SHOW
16:18:24 UP IN PERSON.
16:18:25 THEY CAN DO IT BY ZOOM.
16:18:28 IT IS DIFFICULT TO HAVE TO WAIT.
16:18:29 IT'S INCONVENIENT.
16:18:30 BUT THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS OF PARTICIPATING IN A LIVE
16:18:35 PUBLIC MEETING.
16:18:36 IF YOU WANT TO -- VOICE MAIL IS A PASSIVE WAY OF
16:18:41 COMMUNICATING.
16:18:42 IF YOU WANT TO GIVE A PASSIVE MESSAGE, THEN SEND IT TO US.
16:18:45 SEND IT TO US BY E-MAIL OR SOME OTHER FORM.
16:18:48 WE ARE HAPPY TO READ OR LISTEN TO WHATEVER VOICE MAIL IF YOU
16:18:52 WANT TO YELL AT US, TELL US THAT WE ARE WRONG, TELL THAWS WE
16:18:55 ARE RIGHT, WHATEVER, SEND IT TO US.
16:18:57 BUT IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A LIVE CONVERSATION WHERE
16:18:59 YOU MIGHT HEAR FEEDBACK FROM US OR YOU MIGHT HEAR FEEDBACK
16:19:03 FROM THE AUDIENCE, WE HAVE TWO WAYS OF DOING IT RIGHT NOW.
16:19:05 AND BEFORE COVID WE DID NOT HAVE THIS GO-TO-MEETING VERSION,
16:19:09 WE COULD DO IT LIVE.
16:19:10 BY THE WAY, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
16:19:13 GO TO BE MEETING, WE OUGHT TO DO IT ALL TO VIDEO.
16:19:15 WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SOMEONE VIDEO AND SOME NOT.
16:19:19 RIGHT NOW WE ARE ONLY DOING LAND USE ON VIDEO.
16:19:21 THE PURPOSE IS JUST LIKE THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN AT
16:19:24 NATHANAEL HALL WHERE SAMUEL ADAMS AND THE OTHERS ALL MET,
IT'S ABOUT BEING IN THE PUBLIC AND SEEING WHAT THE
16:19:32 PUBLIC SAYS.
16:19:33 IF YOU WANT TO SEND AN E-MAIL OR LEAVE US A VOICE MAIL, THAT'S
16:19:39 PASSIVE.
16:19:40 REALLY, THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER SOMEONE WANTS TO LEAVE 7 VOICE
16:19:46 MAILS OR SEND AN E-MAIL TO YOU WILL OF US, THEY CAN HIT A
16:19:49 BUTTON AND SEND AN E-MAIL TO US ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
16:19:52 BUT IF THERE IS NOT A MECHANISM FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE US ALL
16:19:55 VOICE MAIL MESSAGES, AS SOMEONE SUGGESTED THIS MORNING THAT
16:19:58 MAYBE THE VOICE MAIL MESSAGES BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE,
16:20:02 MAYBE WE CAN SET UP A SEPARATE PROCESS WHERE THERE'S A
16:20:07 SPECIAL VOICE MAIL THAT WOULD SOMEHOW AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE
16:20:10 IT NEXT TO THE -- THE MEETING CALENDAR, THE MEETING AGENDA.
16:20:15 BUT IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A LIVE CONVERSATION, THEN
16:20:19 I BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD BE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE LIVE.
16:20:22 ALL OF US WHEN WE WERE ACTIVISTS TOOK THE TIME AND SHOWED UP
16:20:26 TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MEETINGS.
16:20:28 WE LISTENED TO LOTS OF FEEDBACK, BUT IF YOU WANT TO
16:20:31 PARTICIPATE LIVE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LIVE OPTION.
16:20:34 IF YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO PASS THIS TODAY, AND KEEPING IN
16:20:38 MIND THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY GO TO MEETING AT SOME
16:20:40 POINT BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO TEMPORARY.
16:20:42 IF YOU ALL WANT DON'T WANT TO BASS THIS TODAY, WAY SUGGEST
16:20:46 IS THAT WE PASS A MOTION TO ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO COME
16:20:52 UP WITH SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE SO THAT THE VOICE MAILS CAN
16:20:54 BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
16:20:56 BUT WE DON'T READ THE E-MAILS.
16:20:59 WE GET HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS A WEEK.
16:21:01 WE DON'T READ ALL OF THOSE E-MAILS.
16:21:03 WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY READ ALL OF THOSE E-MAILS.
16:21:05 WE THINK COULDN'T POSSIBLY COME BACK AND GIVE A TRANSCRIPT
16:21:08 SCRIPT OF ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD.
16:21:10 THOSE ARE ALL PASSIVE CONVERSATIONS JUST LIKE A VOICE MAIL
16:21:13 F.OUT WANT TO PARTICIPATE LIVE WE ARE PROVIDING TWO
16:21:15 ALTERNATIVES TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
16:21:17 THANK YOU.
16:21:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN I.DON'T WANT TO
16:21:22 PROLONG THIS.
16:21:23 ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THE MEETING STARTS AT
16:21:26 9:00 AND IT'S 4:30 IN THE AFTERNOON AND YOU HAVEN'T HEARD
16:21:28 WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONCEIVABLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, AND
16:21:32 ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH RECORDED VOICE MAILS WHEN YOU PLAY
16:21:34 THEM IS YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE GOING TO COME IN, AND
16:21:37 JUST AS YOU CAN GAUGE, IF YOU HAVE A WHOLE ROOM FULL OF
16:21:40 PEOPLE BUT ONLY A CERTAIN LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME YOU CAN SAY
16:21:44 WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT YOU TO TWO MINUTES BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO
16:21:46 CONTROL WITH THE RECORDED VOICE MAIL.
16:21:48 YOU HAVE TO HEAR THEM ONCE THEY ARE THERE.
16:21:50 AND I THINK THERE'S -- AND FORGIVE ME IF THIS SOUNDS HARSH.
16:21:54 I DON'T MEAN IT. IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO RESPECT IT IS
16:21:57 SUNSHINE LAW AN THE SPIRIT OF THE SUNSHINE LAW IT'S ME.
16:22:01 BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS LET -- LET ME PHRASE IT TO
16:22:08 THE POSITIVE.
16:22:08 THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED BY THE SUPREME COURT AS A LIMITED
16:22:12 PUBLIC FORUM.
16:22:13 IT IS A FORUM FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
16:22:16 IT IS A MEETING OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
16:22:19 THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
16:22:21 AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
16:22:23 IT MEANS IT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO FULFILL YOUR OBLIGATION
16:22:29 UNDER THE CHARTER, UNDER THE STATE CONSTITUTION, UNDER
16:22:33 FLORIDA STATUTES, AND UNDER THE CITY CODE, TO TAKE OFFICIAL
16:22:37 ACTION THAT KEEPS THIS CITY GOVERNMENT GOING.
16:22:41 THAT IS JOB ONE.
16:22:43 AND UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCIL, AS AN OBSERVATION, THERE WAS A
16:22:49 RECENT MEETING WHERE YOU DID NOT GET TO YOUR CITY BUSINESS
16:22:53 TILL ABOUT FIVE OR FIVE AND A HALF HOURS AFTER YOUR MEETING
16:22:57 BEGAN.
16:22:58 NOW, MY JOB IS TO HELP FACILITATE YOU GETTING YOUR JOB DONE.
16:23:06 AND IT BROUGHT ME BACK TO SOMETHING THAT I HAD DISCOVERED
16:23:10 WHEN COUNCILMAN VIERA, WHO UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO LEAVE, WAS
16:23:14 CHAIR, BUT LITERALLY -- AND I COULD SEND IT OUT TO COUNCIL
16:23:18 TO BE ADDRESS THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE MEETING, ON MARCH 11,
16:23:22 WHICH I BELIEVE WAS THE DAY BEFORE THE STATE OF EMERGENCY
16:23:25 WAS DECLARED, HE SENT OUT WORKING WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF
16:23:30 AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION WAYS TO EXTREME LINE
16:23:32 YOUR MEETINGS.
16:23:33 SO WHY DO I SAY THAT THIS IS A LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM?
16:23:37 BECAUSE WHAT THAT MEANS IS, YOU CAN PLACE REASONABLE TIME,
16:23:42 PLACE AND MANNER REGULATIONS THAT ARE PERMISSIBLE, BUT A
16:23:47 CONTENT BASED PROHIBITION MUST BE NARROWLY DRAWN TO
16:23:52 EFFECTUATE A COMPELLING INTEREST.
16:23:55 SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL PUBLIC COMMENT, TO ALLOW
16:23:57 YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET YOUR JOB DONE.
16:23:59 AND OTHER CITIES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS HAVE
16:24:03 WAYS OF DOING THIS.
16:24:04 ONE WAY THAT IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH ANDREA ZELMAN, SOME OF
16:24:11 YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY USES
16:24:14 CARDS, SPEAKER CARDS, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT
16:24:18 THEY ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON AND YOU CAN ADDRESS THE
16:24:21 ORDER OF SPEAKERS ACCORDINGLY.
16:24:23 YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW IN SOME FORM OR FASHION BECAUSE YOUR
16:24:27 WEB FORUM IS ALMOST LIKE A SPEAKER WAIVER CARD.
16:24:30 ISN'T THAT THE CORRECT, MADAM CLERK?
16:24:33 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
16:24:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S VERY MUCH THAT WAY.
16:24:35 SO THERE ARE WAYS TO MAKE YOUR MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENT.
16:24:38 BUT WITH REGARD TO THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC, THE PURPOSE OF
16:24:42 THE PUBLIC INPUT THAN IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
16:24:46 TO TALK WITH YOU BEFORE YOU TAKE FINAL ACTION ON YOUR VOTE.
16:24:51 AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE DONE THE SAME DAY, FRANKLY,
16:24:53 UNDER FLORIDA LAW.
16:24:56 MY POINT IS THIS, COUNCIL.
16:24:57 YOUR JOB HERE IS TO CONDUCT OFFICIAL BUSINESS.
16:25:01 AND IT IS YOUR MEETING, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A PUBLIC MEETING,
16:25:05 IT IS NOT THE PUBLIC'S MEETING.
16:25:07 AND EVEN THOUGH THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC, IT IS CITY COUNCIL'S
16:25:11 AGENDA.
16:25:12 SO I JUST ASK YOU, AND I AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR, I
16:25:16 AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL, I AM WORKING WITH MS.
16:25:22 ZELMAN AND WHEN COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS THE CHAIR, I DID WORK
16:25:26 WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
16:25:28 BUT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, BECAUSE QUITE
16:25:30 FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCIL HAS BEEN GETTING THE
16:25:34 COMMENTS THAT I HAVE BEEN GETTING, BUT THERE IS CONCERN AS
16:25:39 TO THE WAY WE CAN REORDER YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS TO MAKE
16:25:43 THINGS MORE EFFICIENT, TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE PUBLIC'S
16:25:47 BUSINESS UPON WHICH YOU MUST TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION EARLY IN
16:25:50 YOUR AGENDA, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO BE
16:25:52 ABLE TO, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, DO THAT.
16:25:55 BUT AS FOR THIS, COUNCIL, IF IT'S YOUR PLEASURE TO NOT PASS
16:25:59 THIS TODAY, THEN TOMORROW -- EXCUSE ME, NEXT REGULAR
16:26:03 MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE TO SIT THROUGH HOWEVER LONG IT'S
16:26:07 GOING TO TAKE FOR THE RECORDED COMMENTS BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE
16:26:09 ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.
16:26:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
16:26:14 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ADD, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS
16:26:17 IS ABOUT CONVENIENCE OR STAFF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
16:26:21 IT MAY BE ALL THOSE THINGS.
16:26:25 IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING A PUBLIC FORUM FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK
16:26:29 LIVE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO ME IS PASSIVE COMMUNICATION.
16:26:33 BY THE WAY, A MINUTE AGO I MENTIONED THAT WE DON'T READ
16:26:37 E-MAILS IN MEETINGS, IN PUBLIC MEETINGS.
16:26:40 I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE READ OUR E-MAILS.
16:26:43 WE GET HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS BUT WE READ THEM.
16:26:45 BUT SOMETIMES LATE AT NIGHT, WE READ THEM, WE LISTEN TO OUR
16:26:49 VOICE MAILS, WE TAKE SERIOUSLY IF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH
16:26:51 THE PUBLIC, AND IF ANYBODY WATCHING SEES, WE VERY OFTEN TRY
16:26:58 TO GIVE FOLKS CREDIT FOR THEIR IDEAS THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN
16:27:02 US, THE SUGGESTIONS THEY HAVE GIVEN US.
16:27:04 VERY OFTEN, WE GET SOME OF THE BEST IDEAS FROM THE PEOPLE
16:27:08 WHO SPEAK AT THE PODIUM.
16:27:10 AND THERE ARE IDEAS THAT WE NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT.
16:27:12 SO WE DEFINITELY NEED THAT.
16:27:14 BUT SPEAKING AT THE PODIUM IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.
16:27:17 YOU CAN ALSO E-MAIL US OR CALL US OR MEET WITH US.
16:27:20 I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE FORWARD THE MOTION, BUT ADD A
16:27:27 REQUEST IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO, ADD A REQUEST THAT THE CHIEF
16:27:30 OF STAFF COME BACK WITH AN OPTION TO CREATE A SINGLE VOICE
16:27:36 MAIL HOTLINE THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO POPULATE THE VOICE
16:27:46 MAILS TO SIRE, EMBEDDED IN OR ADJACENT TO THE AGENDA FOR THE
16:27:53 MEETING, SO THAT THE PUBLIC -- WE ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO ALL
16:27:58 THE VOICE MAILS.
16:27:59 THE ISSUE HERE IS WHETHER THE PUBLIC, EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE
16:28:01 PUBLIC IS ABLE TO LISTEN TO IT.
16:28:02 SO ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THIS MORNING AS AN ALTERNATIVE IS
16:28:05 TO HAVE THEM POSTED ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT THE REST OF THE
16:28:08 PUBLIC CAN LISTEN TO WHAT THAT INPUT IS.
16:28:11 AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE PUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN, THEN WE
16:28:14 SHOULD GET THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND STAFF TO LOOK INTO THAT.
16:28:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
16:28:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
16:28:24 MR. CARLSON MADE A MOTION, AND IF WE ARE GOING TO TRY -- THE
16:28:30 CHIEF OF STAFF TO FIND A SOLUTION TO HELP US.
16:28:32 I WOULD ASK THAT WE DEFER UNTIL WE GET WITH YOURSELF, MR.
16:28:38 SHELBY, AND MR. BENNETT, AND WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE SO
16:28:42 WE CAN MAKE A FINAL DECISION THAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY
16:28:44 COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY.
16:28:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
16:28:48 WE ARE GOING TO DEFER AND I WILL TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH
16:28:51 MR. SHELBY.
16:28:52 >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE MAKE A MOTION?
16:28:54 SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
16:28:55 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CHIEF OF STAFF OR STAFF
16:28:58 COME BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING TO RECOMMEND A WAY TO
16:29:03 CREATE A SINGLE HOTLINE FOR THE PUBLIC TO LEAVE VOICE MAIL
16:29:07 MESSAGES THAT CAN THEN BE HEARD BY THE PUBLIC, IDEALLY BY
16:29:13 THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL, IDEALLY EMBEDDED IN THE AGENDA FOR
16:29:19 THE MEETINGS OR ADJACENT TO THAT AGENDA IN SIRE.
16:29:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A CONCERN, AND THE CONCERN IS THIS,
16:29:32 THAT WHEN YOU USE SOCIAL MEDIA OR THE INTERNET TO DO THAT,
16:29:34 IT'S NOT THE SAME AS A LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM.
16:29:37 SO YOU ARE CREATING SOMETHING THAT IS GOVERNMENT BASED OR
16:29:42 HAS GOVERNMENT SANCTION, BUT YOU WILL THEN NOT BE ABLE TO
16:29:47 HAVE ANY IMPACT PERHAPS OVER ITS CONTENT AND ITS CONTROL.
16:29:52 SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT.
16:29:55 IT'S ONE THING TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT YOUR MEETING AND TO PUT
16:29:59 REASONABLE TIME PLACE AND MANNER RESTRICTIONS.
16:30:02 IT MAY BE ANOTHER THING TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO ACCOMPLISH
16:30:05 WHAT IT IS YOU WANT, AND THAT MIGHT HAVE GREATER
16:30:08 IMPLICATIONS THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT.
16:30:10 BUT IT'S CERTAINLY WORTHY OF TAKING A LOOK AT IF THAT'S
16:30:14 COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, CERTAINLY WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT, IF
16:30:16 THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL -- IN LIEU OF THIS, THEN, IN LIEU OF
16:30:20 THIS RESOLUTION, IS THAT YOUR MOTION TO COME BACK IN TWO
16:30:23 WEEKS WITH A RECOMMENDATION WORKING WITH THE CHAIR AND STEVE
16:30:25 OF STAFF OR THE CHAIR AND CHIEF OF AND A HALF.
16:30:31 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE DO IT NEXT WEEK?
16:30:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NEXT WEEK IS A CRA.
16:30:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD PREFER, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT
16:30:41 WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR THE CHAIR, MR. SHELBY, CHIEF OF
16:30:45 STAFF, TO TALK AND MEET ABOUT YOUR IDEA, IN LIEU OF A
16:30:49 MOTION, I THINK IT'S BEST TO DEFER AND HAVE A CHIEF OF STAFF
16:30:52 AND COME BACK.
16:30:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT WOULD BE FINE.
16:30:54 AND I WOULD VERY MUCH PREFER TO ALSO INCLUDE LEGAL, MS.
16:30:58 ZELMAN AND HER STAFF.
16:31:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I WITHDRAW THE MOTION.
16:31:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT.
16:31:03 SO WE'LL WORK TOGETHER WITH EVERYONE AND WE'LL FIGURE THIS
16:31:05 OUT.
16:31:06 OKAY?
16:31:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION.
16:31:09 WHAT HAPPENS IN TWO WEEKS?
16:31:11 WILL THERE BE -- OBVIOUSLY IT'S STILL IN YOUR RULES THAT
16:31:14 ONLY NOTICE FOR RECORDED VOICE CALLS.
16:31:17 I SUSPECT IT WILL BE --
16:31:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL HAVE TO DO THAT UNTIL YOU AND THE
16:31:21 CHAIR COME BACK.
16:31:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT QUICKLY.
16:31:24 AND IF IT'S THERE, IT'S THERE.
16:31:26 LEGALLY THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THE NOTICE.
16:31:28 YOU KNOW, WORST CASE SCENARIO, IT'S SAFE, THE RECORDED --
16:31:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WORST CASE SCENARIO, IT JUST MEANS THAT
16:31:37 YOUR MEETINGS ARE GOING TO -- YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE
16:31:40 TO MOVE YOUR CONSENT DOCKET UNTIL YOU CAN HEAR THOSE VOICE
16:31:43 MAILS.
16:31:44 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
16:31:46 FOR AT LEAST ONE OF THE MEETINGS, THE CLERK E-MAILED US THE
16:31:51 VOICE MAILS, AND I LISTENED TO EVERY ONE OF THEM.
16:31:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.
16:31:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I LISTENED TO EVERY ONE OF THEM.
16:31:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT THAT WAS BEFORE OR AFTER THE VOTE?
16:32:00 IT WAS AFTER THE VOTE WHICH MAKES IT PROBLEMATIC.
16:32:03 >>BILL CARLSON: BUT, YEAH.
16:32:05 SO, ANYWAY, IT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
16:32:08 IF THE INTENT IS FOR US TO LISTEN TO THE, THEN MAYBE WE HAVE
16:32:13 A COUPLE DEADLINES, BUT AT LEAST SOMETIME BEFORE, SOMETIME
16:32:18 BY WEDNESDAY, SAY 5:00 OR SOMETHING, THEY SEND US WHATEVER
16:32:23 THEY HAVE, AND THEN WE CAN LISTEN TO THEM.
16:32:25 IF THE INTENT IS FOR THE PARTICIPANTS IS TO LET OTHER PEOPLE
16:32:29 HEAR IT, NOT JUST US, WE ARE LISTENING TO THEM ANYWAY, BUT
16:32:34 THE INTENT IS FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO THEM, THEN THE
16:32:37 SUGGESTION THAT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MADE THIS MORNING IS TO
16:32:41 PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE SOMEWHERE.
16:32:43 SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE INVESTIGATING.
16:32:44 BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY E-MAIL IT TO US NEXT TIME.
16:32:50 AND IF SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HEAR THOSE VOICE
16:32:53 MAILS ALSO, THEY CAN E-MAIL THE CLERK OR ONE OF US AND WE
16:32:56 WILL FORWARD IT TO THEM SO THEY CAN HEAR IT.
16:32:58 UNTIL WE GET A LONGER-TERM SOLUTION.
16:33:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO AS WE STAND NOW WITH, THAT MOTION BEING
16:33:06 WITHDRAWN, THEN WE ARE GOING TO RESTORE THE VOICE MAIL LINE
16:33:10 AND NOTICE IT ACCORDINGLY, AND THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FOR
16:33:17 THE 19th.
16:33:18 IS THAT CORRECT?
16:33:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 17th, RIGHT?
16:33:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, 17th.
16:33:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT DIRECTION.
16:33:29 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A CRA MEETING.
16:33:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DO HAVE A CRA MEETING.
16:33:32 I ASSUME THIS WILL AFFECT YOUR CRA MEETING AS WELL.
16:33:38 I WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH MR. MASSEY.
16:33:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE TO REPOST IT AGAIN.
16:33:44 IT IS WHAT IT IS.
16:33:45 THE PUBLIC IS COMING HERE.
16:33:49 AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THE RIGHT THING.
16:33:51 AND I THINK THE RIGHT THING IS FOR YOU THE CHAIR, YOU WANT
16:33:54 LEGAL THERE, AND MR. BENNETT TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS,
16:33:58 AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST OPTION IN MY OPINION.
16:34:01 CHRIST,.
16:34:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
16:34:03 I FULLY INTEND TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOME
16:34:06 OPTIONS THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO --
16:34:09 >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:34:10 THANK YOU.
16:34:10 >>THE CLERK: CAN I GET A MOTION?
16:34:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS
16:34:15 ITEM TO, WHEN, THE 17th?
16:34:19 DECEMBER 17th?
16:34:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
16:34:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:34:24 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
16:34:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:34:28 ANY OPPOSED?
16:34:29 GREAT.
16:34:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:34:32 THAT SETTLES THE AGENDA.
16:34:33 WE WILL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
16:34:34 COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS,
16:34:37 SIR?
16:34:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A FEW ITEMS.
16:34:39 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TODAY.
16:34:40 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE A COMMENDATION
16:34:43 POSTHUMOUSLY TO THE FAMILY OF MR. ROBERT LOUIS ALLEN, A
16:34:47 RESIDENT OF TAMPA 70 YEARS AND PREVIOUS PRESIDENT FOR THE
16:34:51 NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION, PASSED AWAY TUESDAY,
16:34:53 NOVEMBER 17, 2020. I WILL PRESENT THE COMMENDATION TO THE
16:34:53 FAMILY PERSONALLY.
16:34:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
16:35:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
16:35:02 ANY OPPOSED?
16:35:03 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:35:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU AGAIN.
16:35:06 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE OUR PARKS AND
16:35:08 RECREATION DEPARTMENT A COMMENDATION FOR BEING A GOLD MEDAL
16:35:11 FINALIST FOR THE THIRD CONSECUTIVE YEAR, AND HAVE MRS. ELLEN
16:35:19 O'SULLIVAN OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PARKS AND RECREATION
16:35:21 TO PRESENT THEIR GOLD MEDAL PLAQUE TO THE PARKS AND
16:35:24 RECREATION DEPARTMENT AT CITY COUNCIL.
16:35:26 I WOULD LIKE THIS PRESENTATION TO TAKE PLACE ON DECEMBER 17,
16:35:29 2020.
16:35:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
16:35:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
16:35:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:35:36 OPPOSED?
16:35:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE TWO MORE.
16:35:38 PARKS AND REC, THEY DO A GREAT JOB OVER THERE THE LAST
16:35:41 COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING ALL YEAR.
16:35:44 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THE FAMILY OF THE LATE
16:35:47 BISHOP MATTHEW WILLIAMS WHO PASSED AWAY A RESOLUTION,
16:35:51 MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, AND SERVED AS THE PASTOR OF BROWN
16:35:54 MEMORIAL CHURCH OF GOD AND CHRIST IN TAMPA FOR MORE THAN 35
16:35:57 YEARS, PRESENTED AT THE SERVICES ON SUNDAY, 12-6.
16:36:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:36:06 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
16:36:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:36:10 ANY OPPOSED?
16:36:12 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
16:36:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE LAST ONE TODAY, SIR, I WOULD LIKE
16:36:16 TO ALSO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK INTO
16:36:19 RENAMING A STREET FROM FRONT OF BROWN'S MEMORIAL CHURCH IN
16:36:22 HONOR OF BISHOP MATTHEW WILLIAMS.
16:36:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
16:36:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 26th?
16:36:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 25th STREET.
16:36:37 MAYBE IT'S --
16:36:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INEVITABLY STAFF IS GOING TO COME BACK
16:36:42 AND PUT UP A LITTLE SIGN THAT DESIGNATES A LITTLE BLOCK.
16:36:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ON THE SIDE OF IT AND ONE IN FRONT.
16:36:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
16:36:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
16:36:54 CORRECT?
16:36:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:36:56 ANY OPPOSED?
16:36:58 THAT'S IT, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
16:37:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
16:37:01 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU WANT THAT TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL?
16:37:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SO I CAN KNOW WHAT THEIR
16:37:10 RECOMMENDATION IS.
16:37:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT, SIR?
16:37:14 DO YOU WANT TO DO JANUARY 14th?
16:37:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL BE FINE.
16:37:20 JANUARY 14th IS FINE.
16:37:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE
16:37:23 ANYTHING, SIR?
16:37:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE GOT SIX ITEMS.
16:37:26 NO, I AM JUST KIDDING.
16:37:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE YOUR TIME.
16:37:29 WE ARE GOING BREAK FOR DINNER AT FIVE AND THEN COME BACK AT
16:37:32 SIX.
16:37:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD TODAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
16:37:35 GOOD MEETING, THANK YOU.
16:37:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: VERY QUICKLY, I MOTION FOR THE PARKING
16:37:39 DEPARTMENT TO APPEAR FOR A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE CONCERNS
16:37:45 ABOUT PARKING ON 7th AVENUE IN YBOR CITY PROPER, AND THE
16:37:50 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
16:37:51 AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT JANUARY 28th, 10 A.M.
16:37:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
16:37:59 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
16:38:01 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
16:38:02 ANY OPPOSED?
16:38:04 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
16:38:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MORE.
16:38:06 MOTION FOR ALLOWING MS. SHERRY SILK FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY
16:38:12 OF TAMPA BAY TO APPEAR BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE AN UPDATE
16:38:16 ON OUR NEW SHELTERS IN WEST TAMPA, AND THAT'S ON JANUARY
16:38:21 14th.
16:38:23 9:00 A.M.
16:38:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
16:38:26 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
16:38:28 ANY OPPOSED?
16:38:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
16:38:31 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
16:38:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
16:38:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GOT ONE, SIR.
16:38:35 RECEIVE AND FILE.
16:38:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, I HAVE SOMETHING REAL
16:38:39 QUICK.
16:38:40 THAT'S THE BEST PART OF THE MEETING.
16:38:42 I HAVE TO SQUEEZE THIS ONE IN.
16:38:45 I WANT TO BRING UP HERE THAT IN REGARDS TO OUR VACATING
16:38:49 PETITIONS AND REVIEW HEARINGS THAT ARE HELD IN THE EVENING,
16:38:51 IF WE COULD REVERT TO DAYTIME MEETING, WE CAN DO LIKE A TIME
16:38:57 CERTAIN, AROUND 1:30 P.M., BECAUSE OUR EVENING MEETINGS ARE
16:39:05 GETTING HEAVIER, SO THEY CAN WORK FOR THE DAYTIME.
16:39:09 I AM BRINGING THIS UP NOW BECAUSE WE NEED THAT 30-DAY LEGAL
16:39:12 NOTICE REQUIREMENT.
16:39:13 SO IT WOULD BEGIN IN JANUARY, AND BEYOND, FROM THAT.
16:39:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER MANISCALCO.
16:39:23 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
16:39:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:39:29 ANY OPPOSED?
16:39:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND MR. SHELBY, THEY'VE MEMO HERE THAT
16:39:32 WAS ACTUALLY DRAFTED BY CHAIRMAN VIERA, MARCH 11th, IN
16:39:37 REGARD TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR COUNCIL.
16:39:41 DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING THAT UP NOW?
16:39:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE
16:39:46 TO WAIT TILL COUNCILMAN VIERA COMES BACK.
16:39:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS GOOD.
16:39:49 CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
16:39:51 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU MADE THE MOTION.
16:39:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
16:39:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
16:39:58 AYE.
16:39:58 ANY OPPOSED?
16:39:59 OKAY.
16:39:59 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
16:39:59 THANK YOU.
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