TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 14, 2021
9:00 A.M.
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08:59:50 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
09:04:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:04:35 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
09:04:37 ORDER.
09:04:38 HAPPY NEW YEAR.
09:04:38 THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
09:04:41 BEFORE WE GO TO INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, IF
09:04:44 WE CAN HAVE A MOVEMENT OF SILENCE FOR TWO INDIVIDUALS,
09:04:47 THE FIRST ONE IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DEPUTY CORPORAL
09:04:50 BRIAN LAVIGNE WHO WAS KILLED A FEW DAYS AGO, IF YOU WATCH
09:04:56 THE NEWS AND YOU HAVE SEEN THIS GENTLEMAN WHO WAS ONE
09:04:58 SHIFT AWAY FROM RETIREMENT, WAS KILLED IN THE LINE OF
09:05:02 DUTY.
09:05:03 AS WELL AS TPD ATTORNEY KIRBY RAINSBERGER WHO SERVED WITH
09:05:09 THE CITY FOR JUST UNDER 30 YEARS, PASSED AWAY, I BELIEVE,
09:05:12 YESTERDAY.
09:05:16 A GENTLEMAN THAT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW, A FRIEND
09:05:19 TO MANY.
09:05:20 HE PASSED AWAY.
09:05:21 SO IF WE CAN HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THESE TWO
09:05:24 GENTLEMEN.
09:05:25 (MOMENT OF SILENCE)
09:05:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:05:37 AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO COUNCILMEMBER
09:05:41 BILL CARLSON WHO WILL BE INTRODUCING OUR GUEST TODAY FOR
09:05:44 THE INVOCATION.
09:05:46 >>BILL CARLSON: GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
09:05:48 I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF INTRODUCING ERICA ALLEN IN SOUTH
09:05:51 TAMPA.
09:05:53 I POP INTO OR ATTEND LOTS OF DIFFERENT CHURCHES AND THIS
09:05:56 IS ONE THAT I ATTEND.
09:05:57 IT'S A RELATIVELY NEW CHURCH, A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO
09:06:00 OLD.
09:06:00 IT'S CALLED HORIZON.
09:06:02 AND ERICA AND HER HUSBAND CHRIS HAVE BUILT THIS REALLY
09:06:07 UNIQUE FOLLOWING.
09:06:10 ONE THING PEOPLE SAY ABOUT CHURCHES IS THAT RELIGION IS
09:06:13 DYING, AND YOUNGER PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
09:06:15 AND THEY DRAW PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.
09:06:17 BUT IN PARTICULAR, THEY ARE DRAWING LOTS OF YOUNG
09:06:20 FAMILIES IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND BUILDING A COMMUNITY OF
09:06:23 FOLKS WHO WORK ON PROJECTS THROUGHOUT SOUTH TAMPA.
09:06:25 ALSO, THEY ARE VERY TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY WHICH HAS COME
09:06:31 IN HANDY IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
09:06:33 WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I WILL INTRODUCE ERICA TO GIVE THE
09:06:36 INVOCATION.
09:06:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR
09:06:39 THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:06:40 >> ERICA ALLEN: FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU SO
09:06:44 MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO
09:06:46 ALSO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
09:06:48 WHO SHOW UP TODAY AND DOING YOUR JOBS TO REPRESENT
09:06:52 DEMOCRACY.
09:06:52 AND I THANK YOU FOR EACH OF THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE SHOWN
09:06:55 UP TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY PARTICIPATE IN DEMOCRACY,
09:06:59 SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING ISSUE IN OUR
09:07:04 COUNTRY THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
09:07:06 SO THANK YOU TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SHOWN UP.
09:07:08 TOMORROW IS THE ACTUAL DATE OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING'S
09:07:12 BIRTHDAY.
09:07:13 WE CELEBRATE HIS BIRTHDAY WITH A NATIONAL HOLIDAY ON
09:07:16 MONDAY.
09:07:17 AND IN LIGHT OF WHAT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED IN THIS COUNTRY
09:07:20 IN RECENT MONTHS, I JUST WANT TO HONOR THE LEGACY OF DR.
09:07:24 KING AND SO MANY ACTIVISTS AND BLACK AMERICANS WHO HAVE
09:07:28 WORKED FOR WHAT DR. KING CALLS THE -- THE COMMUNITY, AND
09:07:32 I KNOW WE HAD A MOMENT OF SILENCE BUT I JUST WANTED TO
09:07:35 HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO HONOR THE LEGACY OF THOSE WHO
09:07:38 WORK SO HARD FOR US TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE COMMUNITY AND
09:07:42 HEAR MAYBE WHAT IT IS THAT GOD CALLS US TO DO IN THESE
09:07:46 MOMENTS.
09:07:46 IF WE WILL START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN I WILL
09:07:49 BEGIN WITH A PRAYER.
09:07:51 (MOMENT OF SILENCE)
09:07:59 DEAR GOD, WE COME THIS MORNING, SOME OF US STILL REELING
09:08:06 FROM HORROR AND YET FILLED WITH HOPE.
09:08:08 WE ARE REMINDED THAT OUR ACTIONS HERE AT A CITY COUNCIL
09:08:11 MEETING OFTEN INVOLVE HEARING ISSUES AROUND WHAT WE CALL
09:08:14 A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT, AND WE JUST PRAY, GOD, THAT THE
09:08:19 SEEDS THAT ARE SEWN HERE WILL TAKE ROOT AND BEGIN TO GROW
09:08:23 SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND AMAZING IN THIS CITY.
09:08:27 BLESS THE GRASSROOTS EFFORTS OF YOUR PEOPLE, GOD.
09:08:31 WE COME THIS MORNING LONGING FOR KINDNESS AND LOVE AND
09:08:34 GENEROSITY TO LEAD THE WAY.
09:08:37 WE ARE REMINDED THAT EACH COUNCILMEMBER HERE THIS MORNING
09:08:41 DEEPLY LOVES THIS GREAT CITY.
09:08:43 I PRAY THAT THEIR DECISIONS, THEIR ACTIONS, THEIR LIVES,
09:08:47 WILL RADIATE KINDNESS AND LOVE AND GENEROSITY IN A WORLD
09:08:53 THAT NEEDS IT SO DESPERATELY.
09:08:54 I PRAY FOR EACH PERSON WHO WILL SPEAK TODAY, GOD.
09:08:57 MAY WE RECOGNIZE THE POWER OF OUR WORD AND USE THEM TO
09:09:00 BUILD UP THIS COMMUNITY.
09:09:04 WE COME THIS MORNING LONGING FOR STRENGTH AND UNITY.
09:09:09 OPEN OUR EYES TO INEQUITY AND OPEN OUR EARS AND OUR
09:09:13 HEARTS TO HARD CONVERSATIONS.
09:09:16 MAY WE REMEMBER THAT REAL STRENGTH IS FOUND IN THE
09:09:18 COURAGE TO BE VULNERABLE, AND THE BRAVERY TO SEE THE
09:09:22 UNSEEN AND THE QUEST TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR ALL PEOPLE.
09:09:27 MAKE TAMPA STRONG AND UNIFY US FOR THE WORK OF BUILDING A
09:09:31 BELOVED COMMUNITY RIGHT HERE.
09:09:34 WE COME LONGING FOR THE DAY THAT OUR POLICIES AND OUR
09:09:37 SYSTEMS ARE NOT WROUGHT WITH RACISM AND WE THANK YOU FOR
09:09:40 THE WITNESSES OF DR. KING AND FOR TAMPA ACTIVISTS WHO
09:09:43 WORK SO HARD TO BEGIN THIS IMPORTANT WORK LIKE CLARENCE
09:09:47 FORD, REVEREND LOWRY, ROSS JAMES AND SO MANY OTHERS.
09:09:51 GOD, MAY THEIR WORK NOT BE IN VAIN.
09:09:55 EMPOWER US TO CONTINUE THE WORK THAT THEY STARTED RIGHT
09:09:59 HERE IN TAMPA.
09:10:01 GOD, WE ALSO COME THIS MORNING TIRED AND WEARY FROM
09:10:04 FIGHTING A PANDEMIC FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
09:10:08 WE ASK FOR YOU TO STRENGTHEN EVERY HEALTH CARE WORKER
09:10:11 RIGHT NOW.
09:10:12 WE ASK YOU TO GRANT HOPE TO THE WEARY.
09:10:16 HELP US TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AND COMFORT THOSE WHO
09:10:19 GRIEVE.
09:10:20 WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THAT, GOD, AND WE PRAY IT WILL BE IN
09:10:23 THE ARMS OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
09:10:26 GIVE US WISDOM FOR THAT PROCESS.
09:10:30 HEAL OUR LAND FROM THIS VIRUS AND THE DETRIMENTAL
09:10:33 EFFECTS.
09:10:34 GOD, WE CAN'T FORGET THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY WHO
09:10:36 ARE LONELY, ADDICTED, DEPRESSED, DESPERATE, HUNGRY AND
09:10:41 HOMELESS.
09:10:42 SHOW US HOW TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT CARES AND LET US
09:10:45 SURROUND ONE ANOTHER WITH LOVE AND SUPPORT.
09:10:48 BLESS THE WORK OF THIS FIRST MEETING OF 2021 AND BLESS
09:10:52 THE WORK OF THIS BODY AND THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE YEAR
09:10:55 AHEAD.
09:10:56 USE THIS ROOM FULL OF REPRESENTATIVES AND CONCERNED
09:10:59 CITIZENS TO SHINE YOUR LIGHT AND IGNITE YOUR CHANGE IN A
09:11:02 WORLD THAT IS DESPERATE FOR A NEW DAY.
09:11:05 GOD, KEEP US TO CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN
09:11:08 THE ENTIRE WORLD.
09:11:10 AMEN.
09:11:10 [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
09:11:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:11:27 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:11:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:11:35 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:11:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:11:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:11:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:11:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:11:42 MR. SHELBY.
09:11:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
09:11:45 CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
09:11:47 CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:11:49 THURSDAY, JANUARY 14th, 2021, AND WE ARE HERE AT THE
09:11:54 TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER FOR REGULAR AGENDA MEETING WHICH
09:11:57 IS A HYBRID LIVE AND REMOTE, AND THIS IS BEING CONDUCTED
09:12:00 DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY.
09:12:02 THERE IS AN IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT.
09:12:05 AND THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPTION OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION
09:12:10 USING WHAT IS REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA
09:12:12 STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY,
09:12:15 AND THE MEETING IS HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH EMERGENCY
09:12:17 RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:12:20 IT'S AVAILABLE TO BE SEEN ON CABLE TV AND SPECTRUM
09:12:24 CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND ON THE INTERNET AT
09:12:29 WWW.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:12:36 THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE USING MEDIA TECHNOLOGY
09:12:38 WITH THE FOLLOWING ALTERNATIVE METHODS, AND THAT IS IN
09:12:42 PERSON HERE AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, REMOTELY
09:12:46 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT BY THE INTERNET, THE WEB, E-MAIL,
09:12:50 BY VOICE MAIL AND BY U.S. MAIL.
09:12:53 FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO APPEAR IN THIS ROOM BUT DO
09:12:56 WANT TO USE MEDIA TECHNOLOGY THERE IS A KIOSK OUTSIDE
09:13:01 THIS MEETING ROOM AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER FOR THE
09:13:03 USE OF THE PUBLIC.
09:13:04 AGAIN, USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING INSIDE THIS
09:13:07 BUILDING ARE REQUIRED.
09:13:09 AND AGAIN, COUNCIL, FOR THE PUBLIC, IF YOU WISH TO
09:13:12 PARTICIPATE IN FUTURE MEETINGS, BECAUSE THERE ARE
09:13:16 DEADLINES FOR REGISTRATION REQUIRED, I SUGGEST PLEASE GO
09:13:20 TO TAMPA.GOV FORWARD SLASH CITY COUNCIL FOR ADDITIONAL
09:13:30 INSTRUCTIONS.
09:13:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:13:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:33 NEXT UP, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:13:37 COUNCILMAN CITRO, I BELIEVE YOU WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION
09:13:39 TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 3?
09:13:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS CORRECT.
09:13:44 IF WE COULD.
09:13:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO?
09:13:47 FEBRUARY 4?
09:13:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FEBRUARY 4th WOULD BE FINE.
09:13:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:13:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:13:55 ANY OPPOSED?
09:13:57 ALL RIGHT.
09:13:57 NEXT UP, COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU WISH TO CONTINUE ITEM
09:14:00 NUMBER 8 TO FEBRUARY 18th, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:14:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
09:14:04 AND I NEED TO BE SPECIFIC AS TO THE DIRECTION.
09:14:08 IT'S TO ALLOW CONTINUED MEETINGS WITH STAFF AND
09:14:11 STAKEHOLDERS AND MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE IN THE FIRST
09:14:13 READING OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE FROM TODAY TO THE REGULAR
09:14:16 SESSION OF FEBRUARY 18, 2021.
09:14:19 WE CONTINUE TO MEET ON THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE WITH
09:14:24 COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS FOR SOME INCREMENTAL CHANGES AND
09:14:27 WHATNOT AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE NEGOTIATIONS AND TALKING,
09:14:30 AND I'M AN OPTIMIST AND I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE
09:14:33 ULTIMATELY SUCCESSFUL.
09:14:34 ONE OF THE CHANGES I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THIS
09:14:37 MOTION PROSPECTIVELY IS A PROVISION ADDRESSING RETAINAGE
09:14:41 AS AN INCENTIVE COMPONENT OF THE ORDINANCE CONCURRENT
09:14:44 WITH THE PRESENT PROVISIONS IN THE ORDINANCE, IF I MAY.
09:14:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
09:14:53 VIERA.
09:14:53 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE.
09:14:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:14:58 ALL RIGHT.
09:14:59 IN REGARDS TO OUR STAFF REPORTS, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF
09:15:02 STAFF ON STANDBY.
09:15:04 GOING TO ITEM 77 THROUGH 89.
09:15:07 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD.
09:15:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I BELIEVE IN REGARD TO ITEM 37 THAT
09:15:21 THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST OR AN AGREEMENT FROM THE
09:15:23 ADMINISTRATION TO CONTINUE THAT FOR TWO WEEKS.
09:15:27 >> MR. BENNETT WAS HERE.
09:15:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE -- IS HE IN
09:15:45 THE HALL?
09:15:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE'S NOT PRESENT NOW.
09:15:49 >> THERE'S A MEMORANDUM.
09:15:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S A REQUEST IT BE PLACED UNDER
09:15:55 STAFF REPORTS.
09:15:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JOHN, I READ ITEM 37 IN REGARD TO THE
09:16:03 TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
09:16:06 >> JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:16:09 SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
09:16:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO THE TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE
09:16:13 ON ITEM 37 FOR THE SHORE PROJECT, IS THAT THE STAFF'S
09:16:18 REQUEST?
09:16:20 >>JOHN BENNETT: YES.
09:16:20 THERE WAS A MEMO SENT BY ATTORNEY JAN MCLEAN APPROVED BY
09:16:25 MY OFFICE AND SENT YESTERDAY TO COUNCIL.
09:16:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IT WAS LATE ARRIVING THEN FROM THE
09:16:29 ADMINISTRATION.
09:16:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 37 TODAY, IT WILL BE TWO
09:16:33 WEEKS OUT, SO IT WON'T BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:16:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE MOTION WOULD BE TO MOVE IT FOR
09:16:41 TWO WEEKS TO PUT IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS TWO WEEKS FROM
09:16:44 NOW.
09:16:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:16:51 FEBRUARY 4.
09:16:51 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD, I THINK WE OUGHT TO MOVE
09:16:54 THIS TO MAY, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TIME TO -- FOR IT PROPER
09:17:01 RESEARCH TO BE DONE AND FOR PROPER PUBLIC INPUT TO BE
09:17:04 GATHERED.
09:17:12 I DON'T KNOW YET WHETHER I AM FOR OR AGAINST THIS
09:17:14 PROJECT.
09:17:15 THE PROBLEM IS THE WAY THE PROJECT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND
09:17:17 I THINK IT'S PART OF AN OLD CULTURE IN THE WATER
09:17:20 DEPARTMENT THAT THE NEW MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE
09:17:25 BEEN TRYING TO CHANGE.
09:17:26 I EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS TO MR. BENNETT AND OTHERS.
09:17:30 THIS PROJECT, REMEMBER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE ASKED
09:17:33 FOR THE PROJECT TO BE SIDE LINED AND THANK YOU TO YOU
09:17:38 ALL, AND I THINK YOU HAVE PROBABLY GOTTEN A LOT OF PRAISE
09:17:40 FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR SIDELINING THAT PROJECT.
09:17:43 SIMILARLY, IT WAS RAN DOWN THE COMMUNITY AND THE WATER
09:17:49 DEPARTMENT TRIED TO PUSH IT QUICKLY.
09:17:51 WE ASKED FOR AN ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS, AND THE STAFF CAME
09:17:55 BACK WITH AN ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS THAT INCLUDED THE
09:17:57 ALTERNATIVES THAT I HAD PROPOSED, NOT ANY OTHER -- I AM
09:18:01 NOT A WATER ENGINEER BUT THEY HAD ONE THAT I PROPOSED AND
09:18:06 IT WAS DONE IN A HALF HEARTED WAY, WAS NOT AN APPLES TO
09:18:09 APPLES COMPARISON TO ANYONE.
09:18:12 THE WAY THIS WAS ROLLED OUT WAS AT LEAST FOR ME IS EVERY
09:18:18 WATER PROJECT THAT COMES UP, I ASK IS IT A NEW VERSION
09:18:22 AND I KEEP HEARING, NO, NO, NO, BUT A WEEK BEFORE
09:18:25 CHRISTMAS I GET A CALL THAT SAYS THIS PROJECT IS COMING
09:18:27 UP, AND IN THE CONVERSATION, STAFF SAYS WE ARE WORKING TO
09:18:31 QUOTE-UNQUOTE SELL THE COMMUNITY ON THIS PROJECT.
09:18:34 AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS LAUNCHED DURING A PANDEMIC, WHEN
09:18:38 PEOPLE ARE HURTING FOR MONEY, AND THEY WOULD RATHER
09:18:41 HAVE -- IT'S BEING PUSHED NOW WHERE WE HAD AN UPRISING IN
09:18:46 DC LAST WEEK.
09:18:48 THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD, PLUS
09:18:50 THE HOLIDAY.
09:18:50 WE HAD SEVERAL HOLIDAYS DURING THE BREAK, AND THIS WAS
09:18:54 MOSTLY PUSHED DURING THAT TIME.
09:18:56 SEVERAL GROUPS WERE MET WITH AND GIVEN PARTIAL
09:18:58 INFORMATION, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY KIND
09:19:00 OF DECISION ON IT.
09:19:02 THEN THE STAFF REPRESENTED IN AN E-MAIL TO ME AT LEAST
09:19:05 AND MAYBE MORE OF YOU THAT SAID THAT THESE GROUPS
09:19:08 APPROVED THE PROJECT, AND THEY HAD NOT.
09:19:11 THEY ARE WITHHOLDING JUDGMENT.
09:19:12 THEY ARE NOT FOR OR AGAINST IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
09:19:14 ENOUGH INFORMATION.
09:19:15 SO THE WATER DEPARTMENT'S ATTITUDE IS, WELL, WE JUST NEED
09:19:18 TWO MORE WEEKS TO QUOTE-UNQUOTE SELL THEM ON THE PROJECT.
09:19:20 THE PROBLEM IS THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS A TRANSPARENCY
09:19:24 PROBLEM AND A TRUST PROBLEM WITH THE COMMUNITY.
09:19:28 THE OLD WAY OF DOING PROJECTS LIKE THIS 20: 30 YEARS AGO
09:19:30 WOULD BE TO SELL IT AND FORCE THE COMMUNITY TO ACCEPT IT.
09:19:33 NOWADAYS WHAT YOU DO IS YOU COME UP WITH AN HONEST
09:19:36 ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS, LOOK AT WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, WHAT
09:19:39 ARE THE ALTERNATIVES, AND YOU PRESENT THE ALTERNATIVES,
09:19:42 AND THEN YOU ASK THE PUBLIC THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE
09:19:45 ALTERNATIVES, BUT IT HAS TO BE A FAIR APPLES TO APPLES
09:19:48 COMPARISON.
09:19:49 YOU CAN'T SKEW IT THE WAY THEY DID LAST TIME.
09:19:51 YOU CAN'T PUT FALSE INFORMATION IN THERE MISREPRESENTING
09:19:54 WHAT CERTAIN PEOPLE SAY.
09:19:55 AND I HAVE A CONCERN THAT IF SOME INFORMATION IS BEING
09:19:58 MISREPRESENTED, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT ALL OF IT IS BEING
09:20:02 ACCURATE?
09:20:02 SO WE LOOK AT THE SCIENCE OF IT, THE EFFICACY OF THE
09:20:06 PROJECT.
09:20:06 WE NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS.
09:20:08 WE NEED A TRUE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS.
09:20:11 BY THE WAY, I'M TOLD IN A MEMO THAT WAS FORWARDED BY
09:20:16 COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT 30% OF THE DESIGN OF THIS
09:20:19 PROJECT IS DONE ALREADY.
09:20:20 AND MY QUESTION IS, WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM TO DO
09:20:23 THAT?
09:20:23 BECAUSE EVERY TIME THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS HAD A BUDGET
09:20:26 ITEM COME UP I ASKED THEM IF IT INCLUDED THIS PROJECT AND
09:20:29 THEY SAID NO.
09:20:30 AND SEVERAL OTHER FOLKS TALKING TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT
09:20:32 SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SLUSH FUNDS OUT THERE THAT THEY
09:20:35 DRAW FROM ON THESE PROJECTS.
09:20:36 AND I WILL GIVE YOU ONE OTHER ITEM OF THE LEVEL OF
09:20:39 MISTRUST.
09:20:39 IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THERE WAS A QUALITY ISSUE
09:20:42 THAT WAS MISREPRESENTED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE REGION'S
09:20:46 WATER AS COMPARED TO TAMPA'S WATER.
09:20:48 NOW WE FIND OUT TWO WEEKS AGO THAT "TAMPA BAY TIMES"
09:20:51 WROTE A STORY THAT SAID CITY OF TAMPA IS PAYING 1.9
09:20:54 MILLION TO FIX THE WATER QUALITY PROBLEM, THE WATER
09:20:57 QUALITY PROBLEM THAT RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY KNEW ALL
09:21:00 ALONG THIS WAS THERE.
09:21:02 THIS IS THE SAME WATER DEPARTMENT THAT SHUTTLE DOWN OUR
09:21:04 WATER SUPPLY FOR FIVE DAYS AND NEVER TOLD US EXACTLY WHY.
09:21:07 THE ONLY ANSWER WE GOT WAS THAT A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR
09:21:10 BURST A PIPE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WATCHED ONLINE BUT
09:21:13 THE RESIDENTS WERE IRATE BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BOIL THEIR
09:21:16 WATER AND THEY WERE MAD BECAUSE THE WATER DEPARTMENT WAS
09:21:18 NOT TRANSPARENT IN COMMUNICATING, AND I KNOW IN TALKING
09:21:22 TO CHIEF BENNETT AND JEAN DUNCAN AND OTHERS THE WATER
09:21:26 DEPARTMENT IS WORKING HARD TO TRY TO CHANGE THESE
09:21:29 TRANSPARENCY ISSUES BUT THIS IS A 350 TO 400 MILLION
09:21:33 PROJECT AND A $10 MILLION BUDGET FOR RESEARCH, WHEN IT
09:21:37 SEEMS THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO DO
09:21:39 RESEARCH AND PLANNING ALREADY WITHOUT EVEN GETTING OUR
09:21:41 APPROVAL.
09:21:42 I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, AND THE COMMUNITY
09:21:44 HAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
09:21:45 THE FIRST TIME MOST PEOPLE LEARNED ABOUT IT WAS
09:21:48 YESTERDAY, AND THE TIMES STORY.
09:21:50 AND YOU CAN'T -- YOU CAN'T RUN A CITY BY NOT GIVING THE
09:21:54 PUBLIC INFORMATION.
09:21:55 AND IT'S NOT ABOUT SELLING AND IT'S NOT ABOUT SAYING OH,
09:21:59 IF THEY JUST HAD THE INFORMATION THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH
09:22:01 IT.
09:22:01 WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES AND WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS
09:22:03 CAUSING THIS?
09:22:04 ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THEY ARE CLAIM THAT TALLAHASSEE IS
09:22:06 FORCING US TO DO IT.
09:22:07 I HAVE THREE LOBBYISTS IN TALLAHASSEE TELL ME THEY SAW
09:22:11 REPRESENTATIVES OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN TALLAHASSEE
09:22:12 LOBBYING FOR THIS.
09:22:13 IF THAT'S TRUE, DID CITY COUNCIL APPROVE HAVING THEM
09:22:16 LOBBY FOR IT?
09:22:17 WHY WOULD THE CITY OF TAMPA LOBBY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S
09:22:20 GOING TO COST US $400, LOBBY AGAINST IT OR EDIT IT?
09:22:25 THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS.
09:22:28 THERE ARE ISSUES ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, ABOUT MINIMUM
09:22:30 FLOWS AND ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS.
09:22:32 THEY CAME UP SLIGHTLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, BUT A YEAR
09:22:35 AND A HALF AGO THE VOLUME OF WATER, THE QUANTITY OF WATER
09:22:39 WAS AN ISSUE.
09:22:40 NOW SUDDENLY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
09:22:42 THEY KEEP REPACKING THESE THINGS TO SELL THE PUBLIC. IN
09:22:45 THEIR OWN WORDS THEY ARE SELLING THE PUBLIC.
09:22:47 WE HAVE TO BRING OUT TRUST, HONEST FACTUAL INFORMATION
09:22:50 AND GIVE THE PUBLIC CHOICES.
09:22:52 I THINK WE HAVE TO ASK THE STAFF TO DO AN HONEST
09:22:56 ANALYSIS, GO TO THE PUBLIC.
09:22:59 AND IN THE RIGG CASE, WE ASKED FOR -- I THINK THEY HAD
09:23:05 FOUR OR FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND NONE OF THEM HAD MORE
09:23:07 THAN 25 OR 30 PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REALLY
09:23:10 COMMUNICATE.
09:23:11 AND WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE WATER BILLS CAME UP, WE ALL
09:23:13 GOT COMPLAINTS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
09:23:15 WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE ENGAGE THE PUBLIC AND TRUST
09:23:18 THE PUBLIC, NOT TRY TO CONE VINCE THEM, WE HAVE TO GIVE
09:23:21 THEM HONEST INFORMATION, AND WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.
09:23:24 IF IT COMES BACK THAT THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS THIS PARTICULAR
09:23:26 PROJECT, I'LL SUPPORT IT.
09:23:28 IF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T BUT THEY SUPPORT AN ALTERNATIVE,
09:23:31 I'LL SUPPORT THAT.
09:23:31 IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT A SOLUTION TO THE
09:23:33 PROBLEM IF THESE PROBLEMS EXIST, BUT WE NEED AN HONEST
09:23:37 FACTUAL TRANSPARENT WAY OF GOING ABOUT IT.
09:23:39 THANK YOU.
09:23:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER.
09:23:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:23:44 THE REASON I MADE THE MOTION IS I THINK WE DO NEED TO
09:23:48 LOOK AND BREATHE A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE PEOPLE THE
09:23:52 OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
09:23:56 DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY, WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS
09:23:59 PRESENTED TO ME, I SPENT A LOT OF THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY
09:24:03 MUCH TO MY WIFE'S CHAGRIN READING TWO BIG NOTEBOOKS ABOUT
09:24:09 400 TOTAL PAGES, 2018 AND 2019 REPORT ON THIS.
09:24:15 I HAVE NOT COMMITTED IN REGARD TO HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE.
09:24:17 I USUALLY JUST DON'T COMMIT UNTIL I GET ALL THE
09:24:20 INFORMATION.
09:24:22 BILL, I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE.
09:24:25 YOU BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS.
09:24:27 THERE ARE OTHER POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU
09:24:29 BUT I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU TODAY.
09:24:31 MY MOTION IS VERY SIMPLE.
09:24:32 IT'S TO CONTINUE THIS FOR TWO WEEKS TO GIVE YOU AND THE
09:24:35 COMMUNITY AND THE SIERRA CLUB AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES
09:24:38 OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO CONTINUE TO
09:24:41 LOOK AT THIS AND ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS EVERYBODY WANTS
09:24:43 TO.
09:24:43 IF TWO WEEKS FROM NOW EVERYBODY IS STILL NOT SATISFIED,
09:24:47 THEN YOU CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO PUT IT OFF UNTIL MAY.
09:24:51 BUT FOR RIGHT NOW I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
09:24:54 I MET WITH THE MAYOR, TALKED TO HER A FEW TIMES, AS I'M
09:24:58 SURE EVERYBODY DID, AND SHE NOT ONLY AGREED TO A TWO WEEK
09:25:03 CONTINUANCE, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, BUT SHE ALSO AGREED
09:25:07 TO MY REQUEST AND SIERRA'S CLUB REQUEST TO MAKE SURE THAT
09:25:12 THERE IS ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON THIS, THAT -- INSTEAD OF
09:25:16 JUST ONE GROUP OF SCIENTISTS THAT WE HAVE HIRED FOR
09:25:19 SEVERAL YEARS WHO ARE DOING THIS PROJECT TO BRING IN AN
09:25:21 OBJECTIVE -- ANOTHER GROUP TO OBJECTIVELY LOOK AT ALL THE
09:25:26 SCIENTIFIC DATA.
09:25:29 SO I AM NOT SAYING IT'S THE END OF THE DEAL.
09:25:31 I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THAT.
09:25:32 I'M JUST SAYING LET IT BREATHE FOR TWO WEEKS.
09:25:35 THAT'S MY MOTION.
09:25:36 >> CHAIR, THIS ITEM IS ON THE ADDENDUM TO BE CONTINUED TO
09:25:42 FEBRUARY 4th, 2021.
09:25:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS ON THE ADDENDUM?
09:25:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:25:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY COLLEAGUES, I APPRECIATE THE
09:25:55 CONVERSATION.
09:25:56 I TOO HAD SOME CONCERNS, GETTING CALLS OVER CHRISTMAS
09:26:01 BREAK ABOUT A MAJOR ITEM THAT'S TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF
09:26:05 MONEY DOWN THE ROAD.
09:26:07 I ASKED THE QUESTION WERE THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
09:26:10 INVOLVED AND I WAS TOLD YES, THEY SEEM TO BE ON BOARD,
09:26:13 BUT THEN I HADN'T COMMITTED BUT I WAS LOOKING DOWN THE
09:26:17 ROAD TO SAY POSSIBLY OKAY FOR 2 MILLION TO DO THE STUDY.
09:26:23 BUT THEN I GET SEVERAL CALLS FINDING OUT THAT THE
09:26:25 ENVIRONMENTALS WERE NOT ON BOARD, AND I CALLED MR. WEBER
09:26:31 TO EXPRESS THAT.
09:26:34 I THINK THE BIG BALLPARK IS WHEN I MET WITH THEM, THE
09:26:39 FIRST YEAR, TALKED ABOUT PIPES AND TAP.
09:26:41 I SAID WE CAN'T KEEP COMING BACK NICKEL AND DIMING THE
09:26:45 PUBLIC SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING
09:26:47 INCLUSIVE.
09:26:48 THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
09:26:49 AND MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW TODAY IS I THINK THAT MR.
09:26:54 DINGFELDER IS RIGHT, AND MR. CARLSON IS RIGHT.
09:26:57 TAKE A STEP BACK, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY AND THE
09:27:02 FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THIS CITY KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING
09:27:05 TO DO OR PROPOSE TO DO.
09:27:07 I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO UNDERSTAND
09:27:10 WHAT THE UNDERTAKING IS TO MOVE FORWARD.
09:27:14 I'M NOT SAYING THE PROJECT IS BAD.
09:27:16 I'M NOT A SCIENTIST.
09:27:18 I'M NOT A WATER GUY.
09:27:19 THAT'S NOT MY EXPERTISE.
09:27:20 BUT I'M OPEN TO HEAR EVERYTHING TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION
09:27:24 ESPECIALLY FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.
09:27:26 SOMETIMES, OUR CITIZENS DON'T AGREE WITH DECISIONS WE
09:27:30 MAKE BUT WE TRY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS WE CAN TO MOVE
09:27:32 THE CITY FORWARD.
09:27:33 SO I AM FOR HOLD BACK FOR TWO WEEKS FOR MORE DISCUSSION
09:27:40 AND IF IT NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION WE CAN DO THAT.
09:27:42 BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY -- AND WE
09:27:44 TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION.
09:27:46 WE ARE SPENDING MONEY ON COMMUNICATION.
09:27:48 I SEE A NEW WEBSITE GOING ON.
09:27:50 WE HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT OUT TO THE PEOPLE SO
09:27:52 THEY CAN BE ABLE TO TELL US, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT
09:27:56 THE SYSTEM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
09:27:57 SO I THINK, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RIGHT ON.
09:28:00 MR. CARLSON, YOU AS WELL.
09:28:02 AND WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE A LITTLE LATER ONCE WE GET A
09:28:05 LITTLE MOWER INFORMATION.
09:28:06 I YIELD BACK TO THE CHAIR.
09:28:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON AND VIERA.
09:28:13 >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE PUBLIC
09:28:16 CANNOT MAKE A CHOICE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CHOICES.
09:28:19 THERE'S ONLY ONE OPTION BEING PRESENTED.
09:28:21 AND THE CHOICES THAT WERE PRESENTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
09:28:24 ARE NOT APPLICABLE ANYMORE.
09:28:26 SOME OF THEM MAY OR MAY NOT BE.
09:28:28 BUT THERE'S NOT AN APPLES AND APPLES COMPARISON SO HOW
09:28:31 CAN THE PUBLIC MAKE A CHOICE?
09:28:33 THE ONLY THING STAFF IS GOING TO DO IS HAVE MORE MEETINGS
09:28:36 WHERE THEY TRY TO SELL THIS TO THE PUBLIC WHERE THE
09:28:38 CHOICES WANT -- PUBLIC WANTS CHOICES.
09:28:42 WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS WE DON'T TRUST THE PUBLIC TO GIVE
09:28:44 FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE CHOICES ARE.
09:28:46 WHETHER WE MAKE A MOTION TODAY OR WHETHER STAFF COMES
09:28:48 BACK, I THINK KNOWING GOOD INTENTIONS OF THE SENIOR
09:28:52 MANAGEMENT AND THE MAYOR, I THINK THE STAFF SHOULD COMB
09:28:56 COME BACK AND SAY WE DECIDED TO PUT THIS ON HOLD AND DO A
09:29:00 TRUE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS.
09:29:01 THE ANSWER TODAY IS, WE HAVE TO RUSH THIS BECAUSE SWFWMD
09:29:05 MATCHING MONEY, WE HAVE TO BE FIRST IN LINE.
09:29:07 THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO SAID THIS IS NOT ACCURATE, WE
09:29:10 DON'T NEED TO RUSH.
09:29:11 WAITING UNTIL MAY ISN'T GOING TO AFFECT FUNDING.
09:29:14 SO WHAT'S THE HARM IN DELAYING IT AND DOING AN HONEST
09:29:18 ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS?
09:29:20 IN THE END, WE ALL MIGHT AGREE WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT
09:29:22 STAFF HAS MADE, BUT BRING US ALONG WITH THE ANALYSIS.
09:29:25 BRING THE PUBLIC ALONG WITH THE ANALYSIS SO THE PUBLIC
09:29:28 CAN TRUST THE SOLUTION.
09:29:29 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:29:33 I'M PREPARED TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION.
09:29:36 I THINK THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN, I THINK ALL AGREE THAT WE
09:29:41 ARE STEPPING BACK A LITTLE BIT AND THE ISSUE IS WHETHER
09:29:45 OR NOT WE STEP BACK IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY OR STEP BACK
09:29:48 IN A WAY THAT COULD, HOW SHALL I SAY, PRESUME SOME
09:29:51 MISTRUST IN THE PROCESS.
09:29:52 I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US AGREE IN WORKING WITH THE
09:29:54 ADMINISTRATION EVERY SINGLE -- I WON'T SAY EVERYTHING, IN
09:29:59 MY OPINION, HE HAVE SINGLE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION THAT
09:30:01 FOLKS HAVE BEEN COLLABORATIVE, FOLKS ARE BENDING OVER
09:30:05 BACKWARDS TO WORK WITH US WITH ALL OF OUR CONCERNS,
09:30:07 ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND I THINK THAT BY GOING TWO
09:30:10 WEEKS, THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE GOING TO MAY.
09:30:13 IF IN TWO WEEKS THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS,
09:30:19 ET CETERA, THEN WE WILL PROBABLY GET A 7-0 VOTE TO GO TO
09:30:22 MAY.
09:30:23 BUT I THINK THAT TWO WEEKS IS A REASONABLE STEP TO TAKE
09:30:26 AT THIS TIME, WHICH IS A COLLABORATIVE STEP BACK THAT HAS
09:30:30 EVERYBODY OWN BOARD.
09:30:31 THANK YOU.
09:30:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:30:32 AND I AGREE.
09:30:34 IF IN TWO WEEKS WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THEN
09:30:36 WE MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THIS BACK TO MAY.
09:30:38 I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
09:30:39 BUT FROM NOW TO TWO WEEKS, IT'S FEBRUARY 4th, WE'LL
09:30:44 SEE WHERE WE ARE AT AND WE'LL TAKE A MOTION FROM THERE.
09:30:47 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD A MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK
09:30:49 CONTINUANCE?
09:30:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THE CLERK POINTS OUT THAT IS PART
09:30:52 OF THE ADDENDUM SO I APOLOGIZE FOR EVEN BRINGING IT UP.
09:30:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY AND FOR
09:30:59 THE RECORD, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MEETING ON THE 21st
09:31:09 AND A WORKSHOP.
09:31:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THREE WEEKS.
09:31:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE FOR THE
09:31:18 ADMINISTRATION TO AT LEAST ADDRESS THE SITUATION THAT WE
09:31:20 ARE TALKING ABOUT.
09:31:20 I THINK THAT WOULD ONLY BE FAIR.
09:31:22 AND BY THE WAY, I HAVE NEVER BEEN MISLED BY ANY CITY
09:31:23 DEPARTMENT HEAD, AND IF I DID, I WOULD ASK THEM TO BE
09:31:30 REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
09:31:31 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
09:31:37 COUNCIL.
09:31:38 AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, A MEMO CAME IN WITH A CONTINUANCE,
09:31:40 IT WAS ON THE ADDENDUM.
09:31:42 I THINK JAN McLEAN, OUR CITY ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY IS
09:31:46 ON THE LINE, AND IF SHE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE MEMO THAT
09:31:49 SHE DRAFTED, I WOULD YIELD TO HER IN HER VIRTUAL POSITION
09:31:53 AT THIS POINT.
09:31:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:31:56 JAN MCLEAN.
09:31:56 >>JAN MCLEAN: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.
09:32:00 THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT.
09:32:01 THIS IS JAN.
09:32:02 I DID DRAFT A MEMO REQUESTING THAT THE ITEM BE
09:32:07 RESCHEDULED TO THE FEBRUARY 4th REGULAR COUNCIL
09:32:11 MEETING FOR CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME, AND WE WOULD
09:32:15 CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE, AS MR. DINGFELDER HAS INDICATED.
09:32:22 THE GROUPS THAT WE WORKED WITH, JEAN DUNCAN IS ON THE
09:32:26 LINE, IF SHE WANTED TO MAKE ANY KIND OF STATEMENTS WITH
09:32:29 REGARD TO STAFF ACTIVITY.
09:32:32 I WOULD YIELD TO HER.
09:32:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:32:37 WE HAVE JEAN DUNCAN ON THE LINE.
09:32:38 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DUNCAN?
09:32:45 HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
09:32:48 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FOR A COULDN'T ANSWER TO FEBRUARY
09:32:50 4th.
09:32:52 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:32:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:32:54 ANY OPPOSED?
09:32:55 >>BILL CARLSON: I VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THE
09:33:02 ADMINISTRATION DELAYING THIS.
09:33:04 BUT JEAN IS ON THE LINE.
09:33:06 AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO HER AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS.
09:33:08 AND I HAVE EMAILS WHERE I AND OTHERS HAVE DISPUTED THE
09:33:13 FACTS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
09:33:15 AND I SHARED THAT ALSO WITH CHIEF BENNETT.
09:33:18 I HOPE THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT WILL COME BACK AND SAY
09:33:22 WE WANT TO HAVE AN HONEST TRANSPARENT CONVERSATION WITH
09:33:25 THE PUBLIC AND PRESENT HONEST ALTERNATIVES TO THE PUBLIC,
09:33:29 AND FULLY ENGAGE THE PUBLIC IN THIS PROCESS.
09:33:32 IT WILL HELP BUILD TRUST.
09:33:33 OTHER WAYS WHAT WILL HAPPEN, THEY GO ON A SALES PROCESS
09:33:37 THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO GEAR UP AND WE
09:33:39 ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PROTESTORS HERE TELLING US
09:33:41 THAT WE HAVE TO DELAY IT AGAIN AND IT'S UNNECESSARY.
09:33:44 IDEALLY THE WATER DEPARTMENT WILL COME BACK AND SAY, WE
09:33:47 VOLUNTARILY DECIDED TO CHANGE THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE
09:33:50 THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING.
09:33:52 THANK YOU.
09:33:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
09:33:54 THAT SETTLES THAT.
09:33:54 GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION FOR STAFF.
09:33:58 ITEM 77 THROUGH 89.
09:34:00 IS THERE ANYONE THAT WE DON'T NEED PRESENT THAT WE CAN
09:34:03 CLEAR THIS UP NOW?
09:34:06 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:34:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 86, I SEE A MEMO IN
09:34:10 REFERENCE TO IT AND I DID TALK TO MS. FEELEY ABOUT IT AND
09:34:14 SHE'S GOING TO GET ONLINE.
09:34:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU DO NOT NEED MS. FEELEY?
09:34:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, I DO NEED HER.
09:34:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO 86.
09:34:28 85 OF COURSE.
09:34:29 WE HAVE THAT TAMPA FIRE.
09:34:34 87 IS CONTINUED.
09:34:36 88.
09:34:38 WE'LL HAVE MS. FEELEY ALREADY ON THE LINE.
09:34:40 89 IS JUST CALENDAR.
09:34:44 80 IS WASTEWATER BOND.
09:34:48 WE HAVE ANOTHER MEMO FROM ABBYE FEELEY.
09:34:52 TAMPA POLICE AND LEGAL.
09:34:54 FOR 83.
09:34:55 84 WE HAVE TAMPA FIRE.
09:34:58 HERE.
09:35:00 79.
09:35:01 SO THERE'S JUST A LARGE CONTRACT.
09:35:04 I THINK WE ARE SET ON THAT.
09:35:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THOSE THAT WERE PLACED
09:35:10 ON THERE, THE LARGE TICKET ITEMS THAT IF THOSE DON'T HAVE
09:35:14 THE NEED FOR DISCUSSION YOU CAN HANDLE THEM WITHOUT
09:35:20 STAFF, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
09:35:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT
09:35:23 FOR 77, 78, 79, 3.8 AND $3.1 MILLION.
09:35:32 77, 78 AND 79.
09:35:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DOESN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT.
09:35:39 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHICH
09:35:41 ONE OF THESE ITEMS, BUT I THINK TWO OF THESE ITEMS HAVE
09:35:49 VERY GOOD EBO MINORITY VENDING PARTICIPATION.
09:35:53 AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO THE
09:35:55 ADMINISTRATION, AND SPECIFICALLY TO BRAD AND JEAN DUNCAN
09:36:05 FOR WORKING HARD AND LISTENING TO COUNCIL AND THE
09:36:07 COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCREASE OUR MINORITY
09:36:11 PARTICIPATION.
09:36:12 I CAN'T REMEMBER, TWO OUT OF THESE THREE WERE VERY GOOD
09:36:16 AND GREAT IMPROVEMENTS.
09:36:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE WILL NOT NEED MR. BAIRD OR
09:36:20 ANYBODY?
09:36:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T NEED THEM.
09:36:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF YOU COULD SPEAK
09:36:26 DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.
09:36:29 ARE YOU WEARING A CITY OF TAMPA MASK?
09:36:31 I KNOW YOUR VOICE IS A LITTLE MUFFLED, JUST TO MAKE SURE
09:36:34 THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.
09:36:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LOOKED AT 77. I WASN'T TOO CLEAR.
09:36:48 [INDISCERNIBLE]
09:36:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:36:49 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM?
09:36:53 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:36:56 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
09:36:58 ALL RIGHT.
09:36:59 CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
09:37:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES TO PRESENT VANESSA McCLEARY WITH A
09:37:05 COMMENDATION.
09:37:06 GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:37:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, GENTLEMEN.
09:37:39 AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU, TO OUR CITIZENS AS WELL, AND
09:37:42 STAFF.
09:37:43 THIS MORNING, WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF GIVING MS. VANESSA
09:37:48 McCLEARY, OUR FORMER HOUSING DIRECTOR, A PERSON WHO HAS
09:37:53 DONE A LOT WITH OUR HOUSING COMMUNITIES, A LOT IN THE
09:37:57 PANDEMIC, MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS
09:38:02 OWNERS BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, KEEP BUSINESS DOORS OPEN,
09:38:09 PAY UTILITY BILLS, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUCCESS
09:38:11 THAT THIS CITY WAS ABLE TO DO SOMETHING OWN SHORT ORDER.
09:38:17 IT WAS A GRAVE UNDERTAKING AND I KNOW THAT DEPARTMENT HAS
09:38:20 A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT DON'T
09:38:23 EXACTLY -- AND I KNOW IT'S VERY BUSY.
09:38:27 WE ARE SHORT OF STAFF OVER THERE BUT THEY WORK VERY HARD
09:38:29 OVER THERE.
09:38:33 MS. VANESSA B. McCLEARY, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, IN HONOR
09:38:39 OF HER SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AS THE HOUSING
09:38:42 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, HEALTH R HEALTH AND HUMAN
09:38:45 SERVICE EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY EXPERTISE FOR THE CITY'S
09:38:48 HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, ASSISTING WITH THE COORDINATION OF
09:38:52 OVER 40 TIFF PROGRAMS, THE SERVICE WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN
09:38:55 PROMOTING FAIR HOUSING BEINGS DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT,
09:38:58 HISTORIC PRESERVATION, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION,
09:39:01 RECOGNIZED AS HOUSING COUNSELOR OF THE YEAR FOR THE
09:39:04 NATIONAL FEDERATION OF HOUSING COUNSELORS AND CO-AUTHORED
09:39:07 THE FIRST NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED COUNCIL CERTIFICATION
09:39:10 TEST.
09:39:11 VANESSA HELPED MANY LOW AND MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS
09:39:14 WITH A DREAM FOR HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO
09:39:17 AS A MANAGER AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATE FOR AFFORDABLE
09:39:21 HOUSING INCREASE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN LOCAL
09:39:23 BUSINESS OWNERS, DEMONSTRATED HERSELF TO BE INNOVATIVE
09:39:27 AND TRUE SERVANT TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND GRATITUDE OF SUCH
09:39:30 EFFORT THE CITY OF TAMPA PRESENTS THE COMMENDATION TO MS.
09:39:34 VANESSA McCLEARY ON IN JANUARY 2021.
09:39:43 THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
09:39:44 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:39:46 HOUSING IS A BIG ISSUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY IN
09:39:49 OUR CITY, AND SORRY YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO BIGGER
09:39:54 AND BETTER THINGS.
09:39:55 WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU BUT WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING
09:39:58 TO TAKE WITH YOU.
09:39:59 >>VANESSA MCCLEARY: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS
09:40:11 RECOGNITION AND THIS HONOR.
09:40:13 IT REALLY DOES MEAN A LOT.
09:40:17 I AM LEAVING THE CITY OF TAMPA GOVERNMENT BUT I AM NOT
09:40:20 LEAVING THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:40:22 I JUST FEEL THAT I CAN DO MORE TO EXPEDITE AFFORDABLE
09:40:27 HOUSING AND HELP BUILD THE COMMUNITY FROM THE OUTSIDE.
09:40:31 SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT I WORKED WITH.
09:40:36 THEY ARE VERY DEDICATED, VERY PASSIONATE.
09:40:38 I WANT TO THANK BOB BUCKHORN FOR HIRING ME, BOB MCDONAUGH
09:40:44 FOR SUPPORTING ME, AND DURING THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION I
09:40:47 DO GIVE THANKS TO CAROL FOR PUSHING ME.
09:40:51 WE DID A LOT IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND BECAUSE
09:40:55 OF HER, WE DO APPRECIATE HER FOR THAT.
09:40:59 I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU, THE COUNCIL, FOR BEING SO
09:41:03 SUPPORTIVE.
09:41:03 I HAVE BEEN OUT AT EVENTS WITH ALMOST ALL OF YOU.
09:41:10 I KNOW THAT YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS CITY AND I KNOW
09:41:12 THAT THE CITY IS READY TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
09:41:14 THE ONE THING THAT I DO HOPE IS THAT WHEN THAT NEXT
09:41:17 BUDGET -- AND I AM GOING TO THROW A STONE RIGHT NOW.
09:41:22 I AM GOING TO SHOW MY HAND.
09:41:23 WHEN THE NEXT BUDGET COMES THROUGH, PLEASE, PLEASE,
09:41:25 PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS FUNDING IN THERE FOR MORE
09:41:29 STAFF IN THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.
09:41:32 THEY WORK VERY HARD.
09:41:34 AND IT'S NOT FAIR, I THINK THEY DO NEED MORE STAFFING AND
09:41:39 MORE FUNDING.
09:41:39 WE CAN'T DO THIS ALL JUST ON GOVERNMENT FUNDING.
09:41:43 AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR AND THIS RECOGNITION.
09:41:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:41:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:41:50 VANESSA, A LITTLE PLAQUE AND OUR WORDS ARE NOT NEAR
09:41:54 ENOUGH TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
09:41:58 I KNOW PERSONALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT AFFORDABLE
09:42:03 HOUSING, AND IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OF WORKING WITH
09:42:05 YOU, YOU TAUGHT ME SO MUCH.
09:42:07 AND I SO APPRECIATE IT.
09:42:08 COMMUNITY APPRECIATES YOU AND I DO AS WELL.
09:42:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:42:11 GOOD LUCK.
09:42:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:42:16 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU TOO.
09:42:18 I APPRECIATE WORKING WITH YOU, APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK,
09:42:21 AND I ALSO FELT BAD THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HELP YOU, BUT
09:42:24 YOU DID A LOT WITH LIMITED STAFF AND LIMITED BUDGET AND
09:42:27 WE ARE ALL GOING TO KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT TO PUT MORE
09:42:29 MONEY AND RESOURCES IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:42:32 I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:42:34 THANKS FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE.
09:42:36 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE AND I
09:42:39 THINK YOUR WORDS ON ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR STAFF IS VERY
09:42:43 WELL TAKEN.
09:42:43 I THINK IT GOES TO A LARGER ISSUE WHICH IS THE PUBLIC
09:42:47 PERCEPTION OF A LOT OF SOCIAL WELFARE AGENCIES AND PUBLIC
09:42:50 ENTITIES, WHICH IS THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT IT'S TO
09:42:54 HEAVY, THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF THE BUREAUCRACY AND THIS
09:42:57 AND THAT, WHEREAS THE TRUTH IS THESE KIND OF SOCIAL
09:42:59 SERVICES IN OUR COUNTRY AND IN OUR CITY AND IN OUR COUNTY
09:43:02 AND IN OUR STATE ARE WOEFULLY UNDERFUNDED.
09:43:05 AND SO WHAT YOU SAID IS VERY, VERY WELL TAKEN.
09:43:07 AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT THAT PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
09:43:10 YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT PERCEPTION OF BUREAUCRACY AND
09:43:15 OBVIOUSLY THERE'S WASTE EVERYWHERE, RIGHT?
09:43:18 BUT CERTAINLY WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL WELFARE, I THINK
09:43:21 THAT THE PRESUMPTION WE OUGHT TO BEGIN AT IS WE NEED TO
09:43:25 DO MORE, WE NEED TO DO BETTER.
09:43:26 SO YOUR WORDS ARE WELL TAKEN.
09:43:28 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:43:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:43:32 ALL RIGHT.
09:43:33 THANK YOU.
09:43:35 NEXT UP WE HAVE THE SIERRA CLUB WITH A TEN-MINUTE
09:43:38 PRESENTATION.
09:43:38 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SET THIS UP?
09:43:44 COUNCILMAN CITRO BROUGHT UP SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
09:43:47 PRESENTED BY THOMPSON FROM SIERRA CLUB AND BROOKE ERRETT,
09:43:54 AND THERE'S A COALITION OF SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
09:43:57 THAT PROPOSED THAT.
09:43:58 AND SO THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR SUGGESTING THAT,
09:44:02 AND THAT PROCESS NOW IS CONTINUING AS THESE GROUPS MEET
09:44:06 WITH THE CHAMBER AND OTHER GROUPS.
09:44:11 NICK GLOVER WITH THE CHAMBER IS HERE.
09:44:13 THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING INVOLVED WITH THAT.
09:44:14 TODAY, WHAT THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO DO IS JUST PRESENT
09:44:17 THEIR FIVE-YEAR VISION, FIVE OR TEN-YEAR VISION.
09:44:20 WHAT'S COMING UP AND THE IDEA SO THAT WE DON'T GET
09:44:23 BLINDSIDED WITH THE NEXT SHALL YOU COMING UP AND THE
09:44:26 BUSINESS ISSUE AND OTHERS DON'T GET BLIND-SIDED WHAT'S
09:44:30 THE VISION FOR THE TAMPA ENVIRONMENT?
09:44:33 AND I WILL BE QUIET.
09:44:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN I HAVE A STATEMENT
09:44:37 AFTER THEY ARE FINISHED.
09:44:39 THANK YOU.
09:44:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:44:41 MR. COMPTON.
09:44:41 >> PHIL COMPTON, SENIOR ORGANIZING REPRESENTATIVE WITH
09:44:45 SIERRA CLUB.
09:44:45 I WORK ON CLEAN ENERGY ISSUES.
09:44:47 WITH ME TODAY IS BROOKE ERRETT, ORGANIZING REPRESENTATIVE
09:44:51 WITH THE FLORIDA FOOD AND WATER WATCH.
09:44:52 >> CHRIS, IS OUR PRESENTATION SLIDE SHOW -- THERE WE GO!
09:44:59 WONDERFUL.
09:44:59 WELL, HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THANK YOU FOR PRIORITIZING OUR
09:45:02 PRESENTATION AT THIS FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
09:45:06 AS PHIL SAID, I AM BROOKE ERRETT WITH FOOD AND WATER
09:45:10 WATCH AND ALSO WITH THE TAMPA BAY CLIMATE ALLIANCE.
09:45:13 WE WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR SPONSORING THIS
09:45:16 LEGISLATION AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR INITIATING THIS
09:45:19 PRESENTATION.
09:45:20 ALSO THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO FOR PUTTING THIS
09:45:23 PRESENTATION ON THE AGENDA AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE
09:45:25 COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THE SPACE WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A BIG
09:45:29 AGENDA TO ATTEND TO TODAY.
09:45:31 TODAY WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON THE STEPS OF THE CITY
09:45:33 COUNCIL AND CITY CAN TAKE TO MOVE TO A 100% CLEAN ENERGY
09:45:37 FUTURE BY 2030.
09:45:39 KEEP IN MIND THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING
09:45:43 A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
09:45:44 WE WOULD JUST -- IT'S ALREADY ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESS.
09:45:49 IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH A
09:45:51 HANDOUT THAT DOES MORE IN-DEPTH AND OFFERS RESOURCES ON
09:45:55 THE INITIATIVES WE ARE SUGGESTING TODAY.
09:45:57 WITH THAT I TURN YOU OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE PHIL COMPTON TO
09:46:01 SUGGEST THE FIRST STEP THAT YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL
09:46:03 CONDITION TAKE IN MOVING TO A CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE.
09:46:06 NEXT SLIDE.
09:46:12 >> PHIL COMPTON: TALLAHASSEE BEING WHAT IT IS, WE ARE
09:46:15 ONE OF FEW STATES THAT DOES NOT HAVE A GOAL TO CLEAN
09:46:18 ENERGY.
09:46:20 IT'S UP TO CITIES IN FLORIDA TO DO IT THEMSELVES.
09:46:22 ELEVEN FLORIDA CITIES HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT.
09:46:24 IT'S OUR TURN NOW.
09:46:25 WE ALSO NEED TO JOIN WITH THESE CITIES AND ADVOCATE FOR
09:46:29 CLEAN ENERGY POLICY AT THE STATE LEVEL.
09:46:31 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:46:35 ONCE WE ACT, WE WILL BE IN GOOD COMPANY.
09:46:37 OVER 100 MILLION AMERICANS IN BIG CITIES LIKE CHICAGO,
09:46:40 ATLANTA, AND FLORIDA CITIES LIKE ST. PETE AND ORLANDO,
09:46:43 EVEN SMALL ONES LIKE SAFETY HARBOR AND COCOA, ARE ALREADY
09:46:46 AT WORK TODAY ON THEIR CLEAN ENERGY PLAN.
09:46:51 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:46:52 >> BROOKE: THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO COMMIT TO NO NEW
09:46:58 FOSSIL FUEL STRUCTURE.
09:46:59 IT'S EASY.
09:47:00 IT'S AN URBAN STEP THAT YOU AND THE CITY CAN TAKE TO
09:47:02 ENSURE CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE.
09:47:04 BY DOING SO YOU ARE SETTING A STANDARD FOR NO FURTHER
09:47:07 INVESTMENT IN DIRTY FOSSIL FUEL ENERGY.
09:47:09 THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS COMMITMENT IS THAT THERE'S NO
09:47:12 ASSOCIATED DIRECT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.
09:47:15 YOU ARE MERELY MAKING A COMMITMENT TO INVEST IN THE
09:47:17 FUTURE OF TAMPA.
09:47:18 AND DESPITE CONCERNS, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE WOULD
09:47:21 ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF EXISTING STRUCTURE.
09:47:26 THAT MEANS THAT ENTITIES LIKE THE AIRPORT AND THE PORT
09:47:30 CAN CONTINUE THEIR USE OF INFRASTRUCTURE DURING THIS
09:47:32 PROCESS, AND REPAIR THEIR EXISTING STRUCTURE WHEN
09:47:35 NECESSARY UNTIL THE TRANSITION CAN BE MADE.
09:47:38 KEEP IN MIND THAT ALL OF THE INS AND OUTS OF THIS PROCESS
09:47:41 WILL ULTIMATELY BE DETERMINED UP THERE THE CLEAN ENERGY
09:47:43 AND ACTION PLAN CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
09:47:46 IN NO WAY ARE WE ASKING FOR COUNCIL OR THE CITY TO SHUT
09:47:50 DOWN ANY EXISTING STRUCTURE.
09:47:52 INSTEAD FINDING A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER TO BE FIND THE
09:47:54 BEST PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD ON OUR COLLECTIVE GOALS TO MAKE
09:47:57 TAMPA THE CLEAN ENERGY LEADER WE ALL KNOW WE CAN BE.
09:48:00 AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT YOU AS CITY COUNCIL CAN
09:48:02 DO IN THIS PROCESS.
09:48:03 FIRST, YOU CAN UPDATE CODE TO PREVENT FURTHER INVESTMENT
09:48:08 IN DIRTY ENGINEERING.
09:48:11 AND WE ALSO KNOW IN THIS PROCESS NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE
09:48:14 NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PLAN FOR AIDING IN THE
09:48:16 TRANSITION.
09:48:18 IN PARTICULAR, CERTAIN INDUSTRIES LIKE RESTAURANTS
09:48:21 CURRENTLY DEPEND ON THEIR ACCESS TO METHANE GAS FOR
09:48:24 OPERATION.
09:48:25 WE CAN HELP DEVELOP PROGRAMS THAT AID IN THAT TRANSITION
09:48:27 FROM FOSSIL FUEL TO CLEAN ENERGY SOURCES. AND NOT PUT
09:48:31 THE BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT SUSTAIN OUR
09:48:34 CITY.
09:48:34 NEXT SLIDE.
09:48:35 >> PHIL: MAYOR CASTOR IS FOLLOWING HER PLAN FOR
09:48:39 COMMITMENT AND HER PRIORITIES AND LEADING THE WAY WITH
09:48:42 THE APPOINTMENT FOR NEW ADVISORY COUNCIL ON
09:48:44 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE WHICH I AM HONORED TO SERVE
09:48:47 ON.
09:48:51 WHIT REMER AND SHARED BY REPRESENTATIVE KATHY CASTOR WHO
09:48:54 IS ALSO THE CHAIR OF U.S. HEALTH SELECT COMMITTEE OPT
09:48:57 CLIMATE CRISIS.
09:48:58 WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE MAYOR CASTOR AND REPRESENTATIVE
09:49:01 CASTOR WORKING TO LEAD OUR CITY DISTRICT AND NATION TO A
09:49:06 FUTURE WITH CLEAN ENERGY FOR ALL.
09:49:08 BUT EVEN WITH AS DISTINGUISHED A PANEL AS THE MAYOR HAS
09:49:12 GATHERED, PRESENT COMPANY EXCEPTED, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
09:49:15 ANY PLAN TRULY ADDRESSES THE NEED OF ALL OUR RESIDENTS,
09:49:19 TO SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE ARE ALL IN DIFFERENT WAYS ALL ON
09:49:22 THE FRONT LINES OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
09:49:25 AND THERE IS A ROLE FOR COUNCIL TO GUIDE THE PROCESS.
09:49:28 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:49:28 >> BROOKE: ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING STEPS THAT WE CAN
09:49:32 TAKE IS INCREASING ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
09:49:35 AS THE AMERICAN COUNCIL FOR ENERGY EFFICIENT ECONOMY HAS
09:49:37 FOUND THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS A MULTITUDE OF
09:49:40 OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANDING OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WHICH
09:49:43 IS AWESOME, BECAUSE ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS YEAR ONE THE
09:49:48 FASTEST, CHEAPEST AND EASIEST WAY TO INCREASE OUR ENERGY
09:49:51 NEEDS.
09:49:51 AND BY STARTING WITH AN ENERGY AUDIT IN THE FIRST YEAR,
09:49:54 YOU CAN IDENTIFY THOSE CURRENT INEFFICIENCIES.
09:49:58 NEXT YOU CAN START INVESTING IN EFFICIENCY NOW, AND
09:50:02 CITIES HAVE BEEN INVESTING IN ENERGY STAR PURCHASING
09:50:06 PROGRAMS, PRIORITIZING WHAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED NOW.
09:50:09 PRIORITIZING ITEMS THAT HAVE COME TO THE END OF THEIR
09:50:11 USEFUL LIFE, LIKE LIGHT BULBS AND HVAC AND REPLACING THEM
09:50:16 WITH ENERGY EFFICIENT ALTERNATIVES.
09:50:18 BY INVESTING IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS, WE HAVE
09:50:21 SEEN CITIES ACROSS THE NATION QUICKLY COME CLOSER TO A
09:50:25 CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE.
09:50:26 THE LESS ENERGY WE USE, THE LESS ENERGY WE NEED, THE MORE
09:50:30 MONEY WE SAVE.
09:50:31 AND THIS ALLEVIATES OUR NEED FOR NEW POWER PLANTS AND
09:50:34 SAVES THE CITY TONS OF MONEY.
09:50:36 NEXT SLIDE.
09:50:36 >> PHIL: THE FIRST STEP THAT MANY CITIES HAVE TAKEN --
09:50:41 SARASOTA COMES TO MIND -- IS TO EXAMINE THE CITY CODES
09:50:44 FOR BARRIERS TO CLEAN ENERGY AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
09:50:48 I GUARANTEE, YOU WILL FIND YOUR FAIR SHARE.
09:50:52 COUNCIL HAS GREAT EXPERIENCE IN ENGAGING IN A SORT OF
09:50:54 REVIEW WITH STAFF.
09:50:56 WE SHOULD USE LEAD, LEADERSHIP ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
09:50:58 DESIGN STANDARDS, TO INVEST IN THE MOST ENERGY EFFICIENT
09:51:02 NEW BUILDINGS FOR THE CITY POSSIBLE WHICH WILL HAVE A
09:51:05 GREAT PAYOFF FOR TAXPAYERS WITH LOWER ENERGY CONSUMPTION.
09:51:09 THIS APPLIES EQUALLY TO ANY FUTURE WATER PROJECT WE MUST
09:51:12 USE TO CONSTRUCT.
09:51:13 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:51:14 >> BROOKE: AND SUCH AS REBATES FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY
09:51:19 INSTALLATION, TAX CREDITS, PROVIDING EXEMPTION FROM
09:51:21 PROPERTY TAXES, TO ZERO INTEREST LOANS THAT CAN BE REPAID
09:51:25 THROUGH TAX ASSESSMENTS, THESE ARE ALL FAST WAYS FOR
09:51:28 CITIES TO MOVE THESE PROGRAMS.
09:51:30 AND SOME PROGRAMS CAN OFFER TIER INCENTIVES TO SUPPORT
09:51:33 RENEWABLE ENERGY FOR LOW, MEDIUM INCOME HOUSEHOLD AND
09:51:37 HELP GET THE COMMUNITY TO OUR ENERGY NEEDS.
09:51:39 ONE OF THE TOP THINGS THAT THIS CITIES HAVE BEEN DOING TO
09:51:41 FINANCE THEIR PROGRAMS IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEIR
09:51:44 ENERGY SAVINGS THROUGH ENERGY CONSERVATION SAVINGS
09:51:47 REINVESTMENT, WHICH MEANS TAKE SAVINGS FROM YOUR ENERGY
09:51:52 EFFICIENCY UPGRADE, TAKE A BUDGET NEUTRAL STEP TO THEN
09:51:55 FUND FUTURE MUNICIPAL AND PUBLIC ENERGY PROGRAMS.
09:51:59 ADDITIONALLY YOU CAN SUPPORT AND PROMOTE PROGRAMS LIKE
09:52:01 THE SOLAR ENERGY LOAN FUND OR SELF, WHICH GIVES LOW
09:52:04 INCOME HOMEOWNERS AFFORDABLE PATHWAYS TO ENERGY UPGRADE.
09:52:09 ESTABLISHING INCENTIVES HELPS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO
09:52:12 MOVE QUICKLY TOWARDS THEIR GOAL SO THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT
09:52:14 THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO NEED EXTRA HELP.
09:52:18 AS ALWAYS WE NEED TO CONTINUE SUPPORT FOR NET METERING
09:52:22 FOR THOSE WHO ALREADY MADE THE TRANSITION TO SOLAR.
09:52:24 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:52:26 ANOTHER PUBLIC WORKER OPTION INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF
09:52:29 PROPERTY FOR THOSE WHO ALREADY WORK FOR THE CITY SO THE
09:52:33 CITY CAN LEAD IN MOVING TO 100% BY EMPOWERING MUNICIPAL
09:52:36 WORKERS TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS TRANSITION.
09:52:39 BY PUTTING THE ENERGY TRANSITION MANAGEMENT IN THE HAND
09:52:42 OF OUR VERY CAPABLE MUNICIPAL STAFF, WE WILL BE LEAPS AND
09:52:46 BOUNDS AHEAD.
09:52:47 NOT ONLY CAN THE CITY SAVE ON MUNICIPAL AND PUBLIC
09:52:50 CONTRACTS FOR MATERIALS, WE CAN TRAIN OUR STAFF TO BE
09:52:53 EXPERTS ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND RENEWABLE STANDARD.
09:52:57 IN FACT, WHIT REMER'S' OFFICE TOLD US THEY ALREADY SEE
09:53:01 ALL SECTORS OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ENGAGING IN THIS
09:53:03 PROCESS AND PRIORITIZING A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE IN THEIR
09:53:06 DAY TO DAY WORK.
09:53:07 AS A COMMUNITY, WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
09:53:10 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:53:10 >> PHIL: THIS CITY, THIS MAYOR, KNOWS HOW TO COMMUNICATE
09:53:15 WITH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
09:53:17 IT'S ONE REASON WHY WE GET BIG EVENTS LIKE SUPER BOWL.
09:53:21 BUT WE CAN PARTNER WITH TECO TO EDUCATE FOLKS JUST AS
09:53:24 WELL ON HOW TO SAVE ENERGY AND GENERATE IT CLEANLY.
09:53:27 WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF SKILLED LABOR HERE IN
09:53:30 TAMPA FOR TODAY'S SOLAR JOBS.
09:53:33 AS SOLAR INSTALLATION, WE ARE EXPERIENCING A BIG BOOST IN
09:53:37 JOBS THAT PAY VERY WELL FOR PEOPLE WITHOUT COLLEGE
09:53:40 DEGREES.
09:53:41 IF WE SUPPORT TRAINING AT OUR VO-TECH SCHOOLS AND PLACES
09:53:45 LIKE ITW AND GET TECO TO INVENT VICE THOSE WHO CHOOSE
09:53:53 ENERGY OVER COAL AND GAS.
09:53:55 >> BROOKE: YOU CAN PARTNER WITH TECO AS AN INVESTOR
09:53:59 OWNED UTILITY, TECO HAS THE OBLIGATION TO GO ABOVE AND
09:54:04 BEYOND BUT TOGETHER YOU COMPARE WITH TECO ON HIGH
09:54:08 VISIBILITY CLEAN ENERGY DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS LIKE
09:54:11 ROOFTOP SOLAR AND PROGRAMS FOR RATE PAYERS.
09:54:14 THE CITY NEEDS TO LEAD IN SHOWING THAT YOU YOURSELVES ARE
09:54:17 INVESTING IN RENEWABLE ENERGY FOR CITY BUILDINGS AND
09:54:20 OPERATIONS.
09:54:21 ADDITIONALLY, THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE IN TECO HAS BEEN
09:54:25 LOOKING AT WAYS TO IDENTIFY AND PRESERVE PUBLIC PROPERTY
09:54:28 AND BUILDINGS WHERE WE CAN GENERATE RENEWABLE ENERGY.
09:54:31 SO BY ESTABLISHING A CITY UTILITY PARTNERSHIP, WE CAN
09:54:34 SHARE IN DECISION MAKING TO MAKE THE BEST INVESTMENTS
09:54:38 COMMUNITY WIDE AND LEAD THE COMMUNITY INTO THE FUTURE.
09:54:40 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:54:41 >> PHIL: FINALLY, WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT WE TALK ABOUT
09:54:45 TECO, RIGHT?
09:54:46 OUR MAIN SOURCE OF CARBON EMISSION AND THE SMOG THAT
09:54:51 MAKES IT TOUGHER HERE FOR KIDS WITH ASTHMA AND SENIORS
09:54:54 WITH COPD THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
09:54:57 IT'S WHY WE GET A TEXT FROM THE LUNG ASSOCIATION FOR
09:55:04 HAVING FLORIDA'S WORST SMOG.
09:55:05 WE ARE THRILLED THAT MAYOR CASTOR HAS COMMITTED TO THE
09:55:09 CITY DOING ITS PART AND BY MOVING TO AN ALL ELECTRIC
09:55:12 FLEET, EVEN ELECTRIC GARBAGE TRUCKS, WILL SOON HAVE ITS
09:55:15 FIRST ELECTRIC OFFICE AND WE WILL FIND NOT ONLY IS OUR
09:55:21 AIR CLEANER, OUR STREETS QUIETER AND TAXES LOWER WITH
09:55:23 SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS IN FUEL AND MAINTENANCE.
09:55:28 PARTNERING WITH TECO AND OTHER UTILITIES IN THE FLORIDA
09:55:31 COALITION TO WORK TO ACCESS FOR ED CHARGING FOR EVERYONE,
09:55:35 AND THE CITY, WHICH IS THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE
09:55:38 COALITION, TO NOW WORK WITH THE STATE TO DO THAT HERE.
09:55:42 NEXT SLIDE.
09:55:42 >> BROOKE: WE KNOW YOU ARE ALREADY DOING MANY OF THESE
09:55:46 THINGS, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:55:48 BUT YOU HAVE ALREADY PUT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND CITY
09:55:50 COUNCIL IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO BE A LEADER ON THESE
09:55:54 INITIATIVES.
09:55:55 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, AND PLEASE LET US KNOW
09:55:57 IF WE CAN PROVIDE ANY FURTHER RESOURCES.
09:56:00 LIKE I SAID THE HANDOUT HAS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS
09:56:02 YOU CAN GO TO.
09:56:03 I AM ALSO E-MAILED IT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE OUT
09:56:06 THOSE LINKS.
09:56:07 YOU JUST CLICK ON THEM.
09:56:08 WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS
09:56:09 TIME.
09:56:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:10 BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN CITRO, AND AT THE END OF THE
09:56:15 PRESENTATION, YOU SAID, OR YOU USED THE MOST IMPORTANT
09:56:18 WORD, AND THAT'S PARTNERSHIP.
09:56:20 PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, PARTNERSHIP WITH TECO,
09:56:22 PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SIERRA CLUB.
09:56:25 YOU ARE OUT ON THE GROUND.
09:56:26 YOU UNDERSTAND THESE ISSUES.
09:56:28 WE SAW YOUR PRESENTATION.
09:56:29 WE KNOW YOU.
09:56:30 YOU ARE EXPECTED IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:56:31 BUT BY CREATING AND BUILDING UPON THESE PARTNERSHIPS, WE
09:56:35 CAN SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
09:56:38 WE ARE KNOWN AS THE SUNSHINE STATE BUT WE ARE NOT REALLY
09:56:40 EMBRACING SOLAR.
09:56:42 WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS THAT BUT NOT EMBRACING IT.
09:56:44 WE LOOK AT AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURING AND ELECTRIC CARS
09:56:47 WHICH MANY OF US THOUGHT THEY WILL NEVER GET OFF THE
09:56:52 GROUND.
09:56:52 AND I HAVE REFERENCED BACK TO THE FUTURE EARLIER.
09:56:55 AND WE WOULD HAVE FLYING CARS.
09:56:57 WE ARE NOT THERE YET, BUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE THERE.
09:57:00 YOU SEE WHAT THE AMOUNT OF TESLAS ON THE ROAD, THE NISSAN
09:57:04 LEASE, THE CHEVY VOLT, BMW HAS ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
09:57:09 SO THE INDIVIDUAL IS MOVING TOWARDS THAT, BECAUSE THEY
09:57:13 SEE NOT JUST THE BENEFITS TO THE ENVIRONMENT BUT THE
09:57:16 BENEFIT TO THEIR WALLETS AND SAVING MONEY ON GAS,
09:57:20 REDUCING FOSSIL FUEL, REDUCING THE EMISSION.
09:57:23 BUT GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING
09:57:25 PARTNERSHIP, WORKING TOGETHER.
09:57:27 YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE THE CITY AS THE ENEMY, TECO AS THE
09:57:31 ENEMY, THE SIERRA CLUB AS THE ENEMY.
09:57:33 WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS OUR PLANET, IT'S
09:57:37 GOING TO BENEFIT ALL OF US.
09:57:38 WE ALL WIN.
09:57:40 A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANT
09:57:43 PART.
09:57:43 I PRESENT THIS PRESENTATION VERY MUCH YOU HIT ON MANY,
09:57:46 MANY THINGS.
09:57:47 THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING AND THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
09:57:49 BUT AGAIN WORKING TOGETHER.
09:57:50 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:57:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:57:52 YOU JUST CUT MY STATEMENTS IN HALF.
09:57:55 I THANK YOU.
09:57:57 I HAVE BEFORE ME AN ECOLOGY FLAG, AND I AM NOW IN FULL
09:58:03 CIRCLE.
09:58:04 BACK TO THE EARLY 70s I WAS IN A CHICAGO RIVER CLEANING
09:58:08 IT UP, WEARING THIS AS A PATCH ON MY JACKET.
09:58:12 NOW, I HAVE COME TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS THE WAY THAT
09:58:17 TAMPA NEEDS TO GO.
09:58:19 I WAS APPREHENSIVE AT FIRST.
09:58:22 I HAVE TO TELL YOU, BROOKE AND PHIL, BUT WE ALL HAVE AN
09:58:28 IGNORANCE, AND WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW.
09:58:32 AND WITH THE HELP OF MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE TIM HEBERLEIN
09:58:38 AND NICHOLAS GLOVER THAT HAVE GONE AND CONNECTED ME WITH
09:58:42 SOME OF THESE LARGER CORPORATIONS, AND TALKING WITH THEM,
09:58:46 AND THEN SEEING THEIR HEADS GOING, YEAH, YOU ARE RIGHT,
09:58:50 YOU ARE RIGHT, TECHNOLOGY IS MOVING SO QUICKLY.
09:58:54 IF WE TOOK THE DISTANCE FROM HERE TO MacDILL AIR
09:58:57 FORCE BASE AS THE TIME THAT HUMANS HAVE BEEN ON THIS
09:59:01 PLANET, THE LAST INCH WOULD HAVE BEEN FROM THE WRIGHT
09:59:04 BROTHERS TO LANDING ON THE MOON.
09:59:05 OUR TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO DOUBLE AND GOING TO CHANGE
09:59:08 WITHIN THE NEXT TEN YEARS SO QUICKLY AND SO RAPIDLY,
09:59:14 FOSSIL FUELS WILL BE WAY BEHIND US.
09:59:16 THIS IS OUR CHANCE AS A CITY TO BE THE LEADER, NOT ONLY
09:59:20 IN THE STATE BUT IN THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.
09:59:25 THERE WILL BE SIDE EFFECTS FROM THIS.
09:59:27 AND THOSE SIDE EFFECTS WILL BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:59:32 CASE IN POINT.
09:59:33 I JUST REMODELED MY WHOLE CONDO AND SO OF MU MAY HAVE
09:59:37 FOLLOWED ME ON FACEBOOK, AND SOMETHING AS SIMPLY AS
09:59:39 PUTTING IN LED LIGHTS AND ENERGY STAR APPLIANCES.
09:59:43 I HAVE CUT MY BILL BY TWO-THIRDS.
09:59:46 SO IF WE CAN GET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING ONE THIRD THE
09:59:51 AMOUNT OF THEIR RENT, AND NOT -- YES, THEN WE ARE TALKING
09:59:57 TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:59:58 I APPLAUD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST
10:00:02 ENERGY EFFICIENT PEOPLE I KNOW OF.
10:00:14 >> BY A VEHICLE HE DRIVES AND THE THINGS THAT HE DOES.
10:00:18 AND, AGAIN, IT IS IGNORANT.
10:00:20 NOT A BAD IGNORANCE.
10:00:22 WHAT WE DON'T KNOW WE DON'T KNOW.
10:00:25 IF WE CAN SEND THIS MESSAGE NOT ONLY EVERYBODY IN TAMPA
10:00:27 BUT THE TAMPA BAY AREA, WE WILL HAVE A CLEANER
10:00:28 ENVIRONMENT.
10:00:30 WE WILL BE LIVING CHEAPER.
10:00:35 WE WILL BE HAVING MORE HIGH-PAID CAREERS -- NOT JOBS,
10:00:37 CAREERS IN THIS AREA.
10:00:41 CAREERS THAT WILL LAST THE NEXT 20, 25 YEARS.
10:00:44 MR. CHAIR, I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
10:00:48 BROOKE AND PHIL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
10:00:51 IT IS NO LONGER AN ASPIRATION.
10:00:52 IT'S A GOAL.
10:00:56 AND I WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COUNCILMEN, AND I HOPE
10:00:59 WHEN THIS COMES BACK SOONER THAN MARCH THAT IT WILL BE
10:01:03 A 7-0 VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION TO MOVE THIS CITY
10:01:03 FORWARD.
10:01:04 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:01:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN
10:01:09 MIRANDA.
10:01:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:01:12 THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE WORLD NOW
10:01:17 THAT REALLY WERE HAPPENING IN THE WORLD BACK IN 1900.
10:01:23 BEFORE THE GAS ENGINE, THERE WAS ELECTRIC CARS.
10:01:27 NO ONE REMEMBERS THAT NOT EVEN I WHO AM 160 YEARS OLD.
10:01:27 [LAUGHTER]
10:01:30 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS, WHAT IS HAPPENING THAT
10:01:33 WHEN IT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND AND COMES BACK A
10:01:34 LITTLE BETTER.
10:01:39 WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT THE ENVIRONMENT WAS SO MUCH
10:01:43 BOMBARDED BY FOSSIL FUELS AND OTHER CHEMICALS THAT WE
10:01:47 HAVE GOTTEN OURSELVES CREATED A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN
10:01:50 EVEN SUSTAIN LIFE AS WE KNEW IT SOME TIME BACK IN THE
10:01:52 '40S AND '30S.
10:01:59 YOU HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE COMING OUT IN THE BADGER,
10:02:03 THE HUMMER, SEMIS FROM TESLA THAT ARE ELECTRIC.
10:02:06 SEMIS FROM ANOTHER COMPANY I FORGET THEIR NAME THAT WAS
10:02:06 ALSO.
10:02:10 AND BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE
10:02:14 IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS MUCH BIGGER THAN EVEN ELECTRIC
10:02:17 CARS, AND THIS IS CALLED BLUE GAS.
10:02:19 I AM SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
10:02:20 THAT IS HYDROGEN.
10:02:24 IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HYDROGEN TRUCKS THAT
10:02:28 WILL BE IN PRODUCTION I THINK IN THE NEXT FIVE -- EIGHT
10:02:31 YEARS OR TEN YEARS AT MOST WILL GO 900 MILES ON A
10:02:31 CHARGE.
10:02:36 WHAT IS HOLDING BACK THE HYDROGEN PHENOMENON IS THE
10:02:39 ELECTRIC -- IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY TO PRODUCE
10:02:44 HYDROGEN EVEN THOUGH ABUNDANCE BUT TO TRANSFORM INTO
10:02:46 AUTOMOBILES AND TRUCKS AND SO FORTH THAT SOONER OR
10:02:49 LATER A GAP WILL ALSO COME DOWN TO THE SAME THING AS
10:02:52 THE ELECTRIC CARS HAVE.
10:02:58 AND FOR -- DOESN'T TAKE 20 MINUTES OR 30 MINUTES, IT
10:03:03 TAKES SECONDS TO FILL UP A SEMI WITH HYDROGEN THAT CAN
10:03:04 GO 900 MILES.
10:03:07 WHY DO SEMIS AND NOT TRUCKS IN THE BEGINNING?
10:03:13 WELL, TRUCKS USUALLY RUN FROM A TO B AND BACK FROM B TO
10:03:13 A.
10:03:16 THEY HAVE DISTANCE AND ROUTES THAT THEY GO ON AND THAT
10:03:17 IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY TRAVEL.
10:03:20 SO IT WOULD BE SMARTER FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING TO GO
10:03:26 FROM A TO B AND B TO A BACK THEN TO HAVE MANY STATIONS
10:03:28 TO PUT THE MONEY INTO TO CHARGE YOUR VEHICLE.
10:03:31 AND THIS IS GOING TO START THE REVOLUTION OF ANOTHER
10:03:34 REVOLUTION, THE ELECTRIC CARS WILL BE IN USE.
10:03:37 IN FACT, CHEVROLET -- I SAW A COMMERCIAL THE OTHER DAY
10:03:40 THAT SAID THAT CHEVROLET IS WORKING ON HOW MANY NEW
10:03:46 VEHICLES THAT I WOULD IMAGINE AND ALL THE CARMAKERS ARE
10:03:50 GOING TO HAVE 80% -- I WOULD SAY IN TEN YEARS THEY WILL
10:03:52 CUT THAT BACK FROM 20 TO 10.
10:03:53 I REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
10:03:57 BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT HYDROGEN WILL BE THE FACTOR AND
10:03:58 ROBOTICS.
10:04:02 ROBOTICS IS THE THING THAT AMERICA IS WAY BEHIND FROM
10:04:04 THE ASIAN WORLD.
10:04:08 JAPAN AND CHINA HAVE 15, 20 YEARS AHEAD OF US IN
10:04:10 ROBOTICS.
10:04:11 WE WILL CATCH UP.
10:04:13 AND WE TALKED ABOUT -- YOU SAW A TRUCK FROM THE SOLID
10:04:15 WASTE DEPARTMENT OR ONE LIKE IT.
10:04:18 AND IN THE NEAR FUTURE, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THOSE
10:04:22 TRUCKS RUN WITH EITHER ELECTRIC OR HYDROGEN WITH NO
10:04:22 DRIVER.
10:04:25 AND GUESS WHAT ELSE YOU ARE GOING TO SEE?
10:04:29 YOU WILL SEE YOUR GARBAGE CAN ROLL ITSELF OUT TO WHERE
10:04:31 IT IS PICKED UP, AND YOU WILL SEE NO ONE TOUCHING
10:04:33 ANYTHING.
10:04:34 THAT'S WHAT IS COMING.
10:04:38 I MAY NOT SEE IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S RIGHT
10:04:43 AROUND THE CORNER, AND I NEVER INVESTED IN STOCKS.
10:04:46 BUT IF I WAS A STOCKBROKER, I'D TELL TO YOU INVEST IN
10:04:48 BLUE GAS AND ROBOTICS.
10:04:54 I ADMIRE THE SIERRA CLUB, HOWEVER I WANT -- WHAT IS IT
10:04:56 KENNEDY SAID, DON'T ASK WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR
10:04:57 YOU.
10:04:59 ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY.
10:05:02 I AM ASKING WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOURSELVES TO MAKE THIS
10:05:05 WORLD BETTER AND INVESTING IN YOURSELF.
10:05:06 WHAT KIND OF CARS YOU DRIVE.
10:05:08 I AM NOT TRYING TO BE HARD ON ANYBODY, BUT IF YOU WERE
10:05:11 GOING TO LEAD, YOU GOT TO SHOW THE EXAMPLE WHAT PEOPLE
10:05:12 TO FOLLOW.
10:05:14 AND THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS IT IS OUR SEVEN.
10:05:17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:05:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:20 ALL RIGHT.
10:05:21 THANK YOU.
10:05:21 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:05:23 THANK YOU, ALL.
10:05:24 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUICK
10:05:27 QUESTION.
10:05:30 FOLLOW-UP, PHIL.
10:05:31 SORRY.
10:05:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
10:05:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SPEAKS TO 2030 AS A GOAL AND
10:05:40 OBVIOUSLY THAT IS STILL A WAYS -- A WAYS OFF.
10:05:45 BUT IT IS -- AND YOU AND I -- I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT
10:05:48 THIS AS WELL AS WELL OTHER PEOPLE AND SOME PEOPLE
10:05:51 CONCERN IT IS AN OVERLY AGGRESSIVE GOAL AND MORE
10:05:54 AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER CITIES ARE TAKING ON.
10:05:59 AND I THINK YOU REFERENCED THAT ATLANTA IS 2035.
10:06:04 CAN YOU -- CAN YOU GIVE US A MINUTE ON WHY -- WHY YOU
10:06:08 CHOSE 2030 AS OPPOSED TO THE GOALS THAT OTHER
10:06:11 MUNICIPALITIES ARE CHOOSING?
10:06:14 >> THIS WHOLE NATIONAL MOVEMENT GOES BACK FOUR YEARS --
10:06:17 OVER FOUR YEARS STARTED IN ST. PETERSBURG AMONG OTHER
10:06:18 PLACES.
10:06:22 AT THAT TIME, THE HARDWARE WAS NOT AS EFFICIENT.
10:06:26 NOW, SOLAR PANELS ARE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.
10:06:29 IT DOESN'T TAKE AS MANY AS IT USED TO, AND WE HAVE
10:06:31 SOMETHING WE DIDN'T HAVE BACK THEN.
10:06:33 BATTERY STORAGE.
10:06:36 TECO SURPRISED AND IMPRESSED US ALL THAT THEY WILL BE
10:06:39 22% SOLAR IN 2023.
10:06:43 IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT AND MAKE THE CHOICE THAT'S WE
10:06:46 CAN MAKE WITH ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WE CAN GET THERE MUCH
10:06:48 SOONER THAN ANYONE COULD IMAGINE.
10:06:51 AND, AGAIN, SEVER YEARS AGO, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO
10:06:53 PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE THOUGHT THAT WAS POSSIBLE AND WE
10:06:55 ARE SEEING MORE CITIES.
10:06:57 THERE ARE ACTUALLY OVER 50 CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES
10:06:59 THAT ARE ALREADY AT 100%.
10:07:02 AND IN UTAH, WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU WOULD THINK AS
10:07:05 NECESSARILY A PROGRESSIVE STATE, THERE ARE 23 CITIES
10:07:06 WITH THE SAME GOAL.
10:07:08 100% BY 2030.
10:07:11 SO IT IS HAPPENING AND MORE AND MORE CITIES ARE MOVING
10:07:13 IN THAT DIRECTION VERY QUICKLY.
10:07:17 BECAUSE WE CAN DO MORE AND THE GREAT THING IS AT THE
10:07:19 TIME WE REALIZE WE HAVE TO.
10:07:23 MORE QUICKLY THAN HE EVER IMAGINED.
10:07:25 WE HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED.
10:07:27 >> IF I CAN PIGGYBACK ON THAT.
10:07:30 ADDITIONALLY, TAMPA IS UNIQUE BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE
10:07:33 HIGHEST RISK OF THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEA
10:07:33 LEVEL RISE.
10:07:36 WE ALSO HAVE THE MEANS TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY.
10:07:38 YOU LOOK AT A CITY LIKE ATLANTA, THEY HAVE THE BUSIEST
10:07:42 AIRPORT IN THE COUNTRY AND 1.6 MILLION PEOPLE AND HAVE
10:07:45 A 2035 GOAL WITH 400,000 RESIDENTS.
10:07:47 TAMPA CAN EXCEED THAT.
10:07:51 ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE THE POLITICAL.
10:07:54 WE WILL GET FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
10:07:59 WE HAVE ALREADY A PLAN NATIONALLY AND OFFER MONEY FOR
10:08:01 MAKING THIS TRANSITION.
10:08:06 YESTERDAY ON A VIRTUAL TOWN HALL, U.S. -- EXCUSE ME,
10:08:10 U.S. REPRESENTATIVE KATHY CASTOR WHO LEADS THE SELECT
10:08:13 COMMITTEE ON THE CLIMATE CRISIS WHEN ASKED ABOUT HER
10:08:16 GOALS, THEY ARE CURRENTLY ON THE PATH TO GET THERE BY
10:08:17 2040.
10:08:21 BIDEN MADE A COMMITMENT TO 2035.
10:08:23 BUT SHE THINKS 2030.
10:08:25 WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT LEADING ON THE NATIONAL
10:08:27 LEVEL, WE ARE ABLE TO DO IT HERE IN TAMPA, AND WE HAVE
10:08:31 ALREADY TAKEN -- YOU HAVE ALREADY TAKEN SO MANY STEPS
10:08:34 TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
10:08:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND CARLSON.
10:08:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS TECO ON BOARD WITH THIS 2030 IDEA?
10:08:46 I HEAR A LOT CAN THEY BE READY BY 2030.
10:08:50 HAVE WE TALKED TO THEM COLLABORATION WITH WHERE THEY
10:08:51 ARE AT.
10:08:52 SOME SAY 2035.
10:08:55 2030 MAY BE A STRETCH.
10:08:57 ELABORATE IF YOU CAN.
10:08:59 >> WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH TECO.
10:09:01 WE HAVEN'T HAD A ONE ON ONE.
10:09:04 WE HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH OUR FRIEND NICHOLAS
10:09:06 GLOVER, AND WE WILL BE SPEAKING WITH THE CHAMBER AS YOU
10:09:09 HAVE REQUESTED AT OUR NEXT MEETING NEXT TUESDAY AND
10:09:12 WILL BE HAPPEN TO REPORT BACK WITH THAT.
10:09:14 THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE AND THE AGREEMENTS WE
10:09:16 CAN COME TO.
10:09:20 THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, WE ARE IN A CLIMATE CRISIS.
10:09:23 AND PARTNERSHIP IS KEY.
10:09:25 AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO PUT THESE AGGRESSIVE GOALS
10:09:26 INTO PLACE.
10:09:29 AND THEN FIND A WAY FOR ALL OF US TO PARTNER AND WORK
10:09:30 TOGETHER.
10:09:32 IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MOVE QUICKLY AND RAPIDLY
10:09:36 BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IRREVERSIBLE
10:09:40 DAMAGE AND NOT BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN LIFE ON THIS PLANET.
10:09:42 >> IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, SIR.
10:09:44 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:09:48 THIS ISN'T WELL KNOWN, BUT TECO A FEW WEEKS AGO FILED
10:09:50 AN INTENT WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO CLOSE
10:09:55 ONE OF THEIR TWO REMAINING COAL PLANTS BY 2023.
10:09:58 WE SEE THAT AS PROGRESS, AND THEY ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE.
10:10:02 MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN ANY OTHER UTILITY FOR
10:10:03 WRAPPING UP THEIR SOLAR.
10:10:07 THEY HAVE NOT ANNOUNCED WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE IN 2023.
10:10:10 BUT DO A STRAIGHT-LINE PROJECTION IT TAKES US TO 100%.
10:10:13 SO IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO
10:10:16 CONTINUE TO HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY HERE.
10:10:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:10:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:10:24 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND
10:10:25 PERSISTENCE AND VISION.
10:10:29 YOU ARE REPRESENTING FOUR GROUPS HERE AND COLLECTIVELY
10:10:32 YOU HAVE HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF SUPPORTERS AND
10:10:35 VOLUNTEERS AND DONORS THROUGHOUT OUR REGION AND WANT TO
10:10:40 GIVE A THANKS TO THEM FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS.
10:10:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:43 APPRECIATE YOU COMING.
10:10:45 ITEM 4, FDOT.
10:10:52 WHO DO WE HAVE FROM FDOT HERE TODAY?
10:10:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE THEY ON THE LINE?
10:10:58 >> THAT ITEM IS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:11:05 >> GOOD MORNING, VIK BHIDE.
10:11:10 I JUST WANT TO OPEN UP AND INTRODUCE GINGER, THE FDOT
10:11:14 PRESENTER.
10:11:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:20 >> EARLIER LAST YEAR, COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED THAT FDOT
10:11:24 COME IN AND PRESENT THEIR VARIOUS ACTIVITIES AND
10:11:26 PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:11:29 AND THIS IS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION.
10:11:36 AND WE HAVE GINGER RUGGERIO, WHO IS THE MANAGER OF
10:11:41 THEIR PROGRAM FOR DISTRICT 7, AND THEY WILL PRESENT AS
10:11:44 OUR STATE PARTNER ON SOME ACTIVITIES AND PROJECTS THAT
10:11:48 ARE GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY AND THESE ARE STATE
10:11:48 PROJECTS.
10:11:53 SO AT THIS POINT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO GINGER.
10:11:54 TAKE IT AWAY.
10:11:55 THANKS.
10:11:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, GINGER, YOU HAVE NOW
10:12:00 YOUR TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
10:12:01 GO AHEAD.
10:12:03 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
10:12:05 THANK YOU, VIK, FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.
10:12:08 HOPE YOU ARE DOING WELL AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
10:12:10 IS MY PRESENTATION GOING TO BE PUT UP?
10:12:11 THERE IT IS.
10:12:17 AS VIK SAID, I AM THE BICYCLIST AND PROGRAM MANAGER FOR
10:12:21 THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC OPS, AND I
10:12:23 WILL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:12:26 NEXT SLIDE.
10:12:31 SO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CONDUCTED A
10:12:35 PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND ROAD AUDIT STUDY ALONG BUSCH
10:12:35 BOULEVARD.
10:12:38 AND PART OF THAT WE CONDUCTED ALLOWED US TO DETERMINE
10:12:42 THE LOCATIONS FOR THE FOUR PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS WE
10:12:46 PLACED ALONG THE CORRIDOR, AND PART OF THIS STUDY THAT
10:12:51 WE DID ALLOWED US TO PICK OUR WALK-BIKE-DRIVE
10:12:57 INITIATIVE AND ALLOW US TO DO THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IN
10:13:02 CONJUNCTION WITH CUTR, THE CENTER OF URBAN
10:13:06 TRANSPORTATION AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW IT.
10:13:11 SO HERE IS A MAP OF THE CORRIDOR THAT WE USE, AND IT
10:13:16 DETERMINED THE FOUR LOCATIONS USING THE CDMS SYSTEM OR
10:13:18 THE CRASH MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
10:13:21 AND WE DETERMINED THAT THE FOUR LOCATIONS THAT WE WERE
10:13:27 GOING TO PUT THE PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS NORTH 12TH,
10:13:32 NORTH BROOK STREET, AND OVERLOOK DRIVE.
10:13:35 PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IN THE AREA IS
10:13:37 SULPHUR SPRINGS, UNIVERSITY SQUARE, TERRACE PARK, AND
10:13:38 TEMPLE CREST.
10:13:43 AND THESE ARE COVERED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHICH IS
10:13:48 DISTRICT 5 AND COUNCILMAN VIERA, WHICH IS DISTRICT 7.
10:13:52 WE USE THESE CDMS SYSTEM TO DETERMINE THE HIGH CRASH
10:13:59 AREAS AND ALSO DETERMINED WHAT WERE THE DRAWS FOR
10:14:02 PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS AND THAT IS WHERE WE
10:14:08 DETERMINED WHERE TO PUT PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS.
10:14:08 NEXT SLIDE.
10:14:11 WHEN WE ARE DOING OUR EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, WE NOT
10:14:14 ONLY WANT TO REACH THE MOTORISTS, WE WANT TO REACH THE
10:14:18 PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, THE RESIDENTS, THE PEOPLE
10:14:21 TRAVELING THROUGH THE AREA, AND WE WANT TO WORK IN
10:14:23 CONJUNCTION WITH THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
10:14:26 IT IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS EDUCATION AS
10:14:27 HOLISTICALLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:14:30 AND WE THOUGHT WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH THAT.
10:14:33 NEXT SLIDE.
10:14:34 WE DID IT IN TWO PHASES.
10:14:40 WE DID IT AS PART OF THE ACTUAL WORK ZONE, WHEN THE
10:14:41 CONSTRUCTION WAS TAKING PLACE.
10:14:45 AND WE SENT OUT OVERSIZED FLYERS.
10:14:48 WE DID IT IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
10:14:58 AND WE HAVE THE FLYERS THAT LOOK SIMILAR TO THIS, AND
10:15:01 WE HAD IT WHERE WE TOLD THEM TO TAKE QUIZZES ON THE
10:15:03 BACK AND WE PUT THEM IN THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE
10:15:07 WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BUSINESSES AND GOT THEM
10:15:09 WORKING WITH US WHICH WAS IMPORTANT TO INVOLVE
10:15:11 EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:15:15 NEXT SLIDE.
10:15:17 WE ALSO PUT UP BILLBOARDS.
10:15:20 I KNOW IT SEEMS KIND OF OLD SCHOOL, BUT THEY ARE
10:15:21 HIGHLY-EFFECTIVE.
10:15:23 AND WORKED REALLY WELL FOR US.
10:15:27 SO THIS ALSO HAPPENS TO BE MOVE OVER MONTH.
10:15:29 A QUICK PLUG FOR THAT.
10:15:32 BUT WE ARE USING THE BILLBOARDS TO DRAW PEOPLE'S
10:15:32 ATTENTION.
10:15:37 AND WE REPLICATED THIS BECAUSE WE DID THIS IN PINELLAS
10:15:40 COUNTY, AND IT WAS EFFECTIVE OVER THERE AND USE THREE
10:15:44 BILLBOARDS FOR THE WORK ZONES ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD.
10:15:48 AND WE USE THE -- FROM THE WORK ZONE TO THE ACTUAL
10:15:52 PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON BILLBOARDS.
10:15:54 NEXT SLIDE.
10:15:57 SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE SHOWED EXACTLY WHAT THE
10:16:00 PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND
10:16:04 THEY WERE REALLY GOOD-LOOKING BILLBOARDS, IF I DO SAY
10:16:05 SO MYSELF.
10:16:09 THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS CREATED A PSA USING ONE OF
10:16:11 THE ENGINEERS THAT WE HAVE HERE AT D.O.T.
10:16:17 AND HE, CRAIG FOX, TALKED ABOUT THE WORK ZONE AND WHAT
10:16:23 IT WAS GOING TO DO, WITH THE PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS
10:16:26 AND ROLLED THAT OUT, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO NEW PSAS
10:16:30 WE ARE GOING TO USE AND THIS FIRST TIME WE ARE SHOWING
10:16:35 THEM AND YOU GET TO SEE THE GRAND REVEAL OF THAT.
10:16:40 THE FIRST ONE IS FROM A FEMALE ENGINEER, ANITA, FROM
10:16:41 THE MOTORIST'S POINT OF VIEW.
10:16:45 THE SECOND ONE FOR THE NEW CHAIR OF THE BIKE-WALK TAMPA
10:16:46 BAY GROUP.
10:16:48 EVERYBODY SHOULD RECOGNIZE HIM.
10:16:54 DAVE ANDREYCHUK FROM THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING AND FROM
10:16:57 THE PEDESTRIAN POINT OF VIEW AND WILL TAKE TIME TO SHOW
10:17:00 YOU BOTH OF THESE REAL QUICK.
10:17:00 AND NEXT SLIDE.
10:17:07 IF YOU CAN PLAY THE FIRST VIDEO.
10:17:10 WE JUST TAP IT, AND THE BAR WILL COME UP AT THE
10:17:10 BOTTOM.
10:17:13 >> HI, I AM ANITA WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
10:17:15 TRANSPORTATION.
10:17:18 WE ARE INSTALLING NEW CROSSWALKS EQUIPPED WITH
10:17:22 PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS FOR MAJOR ROADWAYS IN THE
10:17:23 TAMPA BAY REGION.
10:17:27 THESE BEACONS ARE PROVEN TO IMPROVE CRASHES BETWEEN
10:17:28 MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
10:17:31 WHAT SHOULD MOTORIST DO IF THEY ENCOUNTER ONE OF THESE
10:17:32 BEACONS?
10:17:37 WHEN THE BEACON IS DARK, PROCEED LIKE NORMAL.
10:17:40 IF A BEACON IS YELLOW, PERSON IS ACTIVATED AT THE
10:17:41 CROSSWALK.
10:17:43 SLOW DOWN AND PREPARE TO STOP.
10:17:47 WHEN THE BEACON IS SOLID RED, COME TO A COMPLETE STOP.
10:17:51 WHEN THE BEACON IS FLASHING RED, CHECK TO SEE IF ANYONE
10:17:52 IS STILL CROSSING.
10:17:56 IF THE CROSS SOMETHING CLEAR, PROCEED WITH CAUTION.
10:18:00 WHEN USED PROPERLY, THESE BEACONS HELP MOTORISTS SEE
10:18:09 PEDESTRIANS AND HELP PEDESTRIANS CROSS THE ROAD SAFELY.
10:18:10 >> YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
10:18:13 IF WE CAN SHOW THAT NEXT ONE TOO, PLEASE.
10:18:18 >> HELLO, I AM DAVE ANDREYCHUK, CHAIR OF BIKE-WALK
10:18:19 TAMPA BAY.
10:18:20 THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS INSTALLING
10:18:26 PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS ON BUSY ROADWAYS TO HELP MAKE
10:18:27 CROSSING EASY FOR PEDESTRIANS.
10:18:31 WHEN CROSSING THE ROAD, FIRST PRESS THE BUTTON TO
10:18:35 ACTIVATE THE CROSSWALK BEACON.
10:18:37 WAIT FOR THE WALK SIGNAL.
10:18:39 MAKE SURE ALL TRAFFIC IS STOPPED.
10:18:42 THEN BEGIN CROSSING THE ROAD.
10:18:48 IF THE SIGNAL IS CROSSING DOWN THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TIME
10:18:49 TO CROSS SAFELY.
10:18:54 PRESS THE BUTTON AND WAIT FOR THE NEXT LIGHT CYCLE.
10:18:57 WE ALL PLAY A PART IN MAKING OUR ROADS SAFE FOR
10:19:04 EVERYONE.
10:19:07 >> SO I AM GOING TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THAT
10:19:11 THE CITY PUT THESE UP ON THEIR WEB SITES SO WE CAN PUSH
10:19:13 THIS EDUCATION EFFORT UP MORE.
10:19:17 BECAUSE THE MORE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE FOR PEOPLE TO
10:19:21 SEE IT, THE GREATER THE SPREAD OF EDUCATION GOES.
10:19:23 IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
10:19:26 THE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 11
10:19:30 PHBS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
10:19:33 FOUR ON BUSCH BOULEVARD.
10:19:38 THREE ON BUSCH, ONE ON FLORIDA AVENUE AND THREE ON PARK
10:19:38 BOULEVARD.
10:19:41 WE HAVE ONE COMING TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND THERE IS
10:19:44 ANOTHER ONE COMING TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
10:19:47 SO BACK TO THE EDUCATION EFFORTS.
10:19:50 NEXT SLIDE.
10:19:52 SO HOW DID WE DO IT?
10:19:57 USED GEO FENCING WHICH ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE CARS THAT
10:19:59 WERE TRAVELING THROUGH THE AREA.
10:20:02 IT WAS TAILORED TO THEM SPECIFICALLY AND IF THEY WERE
10:20:05 ACTUALLY STOPPED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE
10:20:08 ANY DISTRACTED DRIVING BY ANY STRETCH OF THE
10:20:08 IMAGINATION.
10:20:11 THE MESSAGES COULD BE REVIEWED ON THEIR DEVICE WHEN
10:20:13 THEY WERE STOPPED AND WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO TAKE THE
10:20:14 QUIZ.
10:20:17 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD MORE THAN TWO MILLION
10:20:24 IMPRESSIONS WITH 8,000 CLICKS WHICH IS VERY, VERY GOOD.
10:20:26 NEXT SLIDE.
10:20:29 SO WHAT DID THIS DO FOR US?
10:20:34 THIS GAVE US OVER 4,000 LINKS AND 1700 PEOPLE THAT TOOK
10:20:37 THE QUIZ SPENDING FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES ACTUALLY TAKING
10:20:37 THE QUIZ.
10:20:39 AND THAT IS IMPORTANT.
10:20:43 WE HAD 88,000 PEOPLE THAT WENT AND LOOKED AT IT.
10:20:44 AND THAT WAS ON FACEBOOK.
10:20:50 AND WE HAD OVER 2896 ON INSTAGRAM, AND OUR ACTUAL TIME
10:20:55 FRAME WAS FROM OCTOBER 16, AND IT IS GOING TO END AT
10:20:56 THE END OF THE MONTH.
10:21:00 THAT IS A LOT IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME OF HAVING
10:21:02 IT OUT HERE TO THE PUBLIC.
10:21:05 AND SOME OF THE QUOTES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM PEOPLE --
10:21:09 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:21:11 SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY SAID
10:21:14 THEY LOVE THESE NEW LIGHTS.
10:21:15 IT IS SAFE FOR WALKER.
10:21:18 CLEAR FOR DRIVERS AND HOPEFULLY MAKES THE STREET SAFE.
10:21:21 THEY ARE GLAD THEY ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T
10:21:24 UNDERSTAND AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
10:21:26 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE.
10:21:28 PLEASE CONTINUE TO DO PROMOTING THESE SIGNALS.
10:21:32 THE FIRST TIME I SAW ONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN ST.
10:21:36 PETE CAUGHT ME BY COMPLETE SURPRISE. AND I HAD TO GUESS
10:21:37 HOW THIS WORKED.
10:21:39 THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR THIS KIND OF FEEDBACK
10:21:41 FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE KNOW WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT
10:21:44 THING AND DOING SAFETY AND IMPROVING IT FOR OUR
10:21:45 CITIZENS.
10:21:48 PART OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS WHERE WE
10:21:51 ARE TAKING THE FEEDBACK AND WE ARE SEEING HOW WE CAN
10:21:52 CONTINUE TO IMPROVE.
10:21:54 SO FAR WE RECEIVED 182.
10:22:01 ALL OF WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS COMPLIMENTARY, BUT WE TAKE
10:22:05 WHAT IS NOT SO COMPLIMENTARY AND SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE
10:22:05 IT.
10:22:07 THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO.
10:22:10 TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND TRY TO IMPROVE.
10:22:12 NEXT SLIDE.
10:22:17 SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR ON-THE-STREET EDUCATION, WE
10:22:20 ARE OUT THERE WE TRY TO TALK TO THE PUBLIC AND HOW THEY
10:22:24 SHOULD SAFELY USE THE CROSSWALK, THE PEDESTRIAN HYBRID
10:22:29 BEACONS, AND GIVE THEM THE SAFETY BAGS THAT HAVE THE
10:22:30 REFLECTIVE STRAPS.
10:22:34 WE GIVE THEM THE TIP CARDS TO TELL THEM HOW TO USE IT.
10:22:38 WE GIVE BIKE LIGHTS OUT SO THEY ARE ALWAYS CROSSING
10:22:39 SAFELY.
10:22:41 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING THE INFORMATION,
10:22:43 TALKING TO THEM, AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO DO THE RIGHT
10:22:47 THINGS AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
10:22:51 NEXT SLIDE.
10:22:54 ONE OF THE OTHER EFFORTS THAT WE DID IS WE WORKED IN
10:22:57 CONJUNCTION WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
10:22:58 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON SPEED
10:22:59 ENFORCEMENT.
10:23:04 I CANNOT -- CANNOT UNDER -- UNDERPLAY HOW MUCH WE WORK
10:23:08 WITH AND APPRECIATE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND
10:23:10 HOW MUCH THEY TO DO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.
10:23:14 I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THEY DO AND
10:23:17 THE ROLE THAT THEY PLAY IN THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.
10:23:20 WHILE THEY ARE OUT THERE, THEY STOP NOT JUST THE
10:23:26 MOTORISTS BUT BICYCLES AND -- BICYCLISTS AND
10:23:28 PEDESTRIANS AND WORK TO PASS OUT THE MATERIALS THAT YOU
10:23:31 SEE ON THE SLIDES AND THE NEXT SLIDE THAT YOU ARE GOING
10:23:31 TO SEE AS WELL.
10:23:34 AND IT GIVES THEM THE TIP CARD THAT I HAVE BEEN SHOWING
10:23:39 AND GIVES THE LENS CLOTH THAT HAS THE MESSAGE ON IT AS
10:23:40 WELL.
10:23:43 AND IT WORKS TO ENHANCE PEOPLE'S MEMORY AND TELL THEM
10:23:45 WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THEIR
10:23:48 SAFETY AND FOR EVERYBODY ELSE'S SAFETY AS WELL.
10:23:50 LAW ENFORCEMENT AREN'T OUT THERE TO JUST GIVE
10:23:51 CITATIONS.
10:23:56 THEY ARE THERE TO SAVE LIVES AND THIS IS THEIR GOAL IS
10:23:56 EDUCATION.
10:23:59 WE CAN'T DO THE THINGS WE DO WITHOUT OUR LAW
10:24:02 ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS AT TPD AND THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
10:24:03 SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL.
10:24:07 NEXT SLIDE.
10:24:10 SO WE HAVE THE LENS CLOTHS WE HAVE BEEN GIVING OUT AND
10:24:14 WE DO POP-UP EDUCATION AND WORK IN COOPERATION WITH TPD
10:24:16 AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SO.
10:24:19 AND WE HAND OUT THESE INFORMATION.
10:24:23 AND WE HAVE GIVEN OUT TO DATE -- I WANT TO TELL YOU, IT
10:24:25 WAS LIKE OVER 8,000.
10:24:29 NEXT SLIDE.
10:24:33 SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THEM, THEY ARE HIGHLY POPULAR.
10:24:34 PEOPLE LIKE THEM.
10:24:37 THEY GET THEM AS WELL WHEN THEY TURN IN THE QUIZZES AND
10:24:39 THEY DO THE QUIZ, AND THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE IT
10:24:40 MAILED TO THEM.
10:24:42 NEXT SLIDE.
10:24:46 SO ON DECEMBER 2, WE HAD A MEDIA EVENT TO ANNOUNCE THE
10:24:49 BUT PHBS HAVE BEEN ACTIVATED.
10:24:53 AND WE ENCOURAGE THE MEDIA TO ATTEND AND COME, AND WE
10:24:56 HAD A VERY LARGE TURNOUT.
10:24:57 WE HAD TEMPLE TERRACE POLICE THERE.
10:25:00 WE HAD THE MAYOR THERE FROM TEMPLE TERRACE.
10:25:06 WE HAD HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
10:25:10 TEMPLE TERRACE, TPD WAS ALSO THERE TO SUPPORT THE EVENT
10:25:12 AND CITIZENS THAT CAME AND GATHERED AS WELL.
10:25:15 NEXT SLIDE.
10:25:17 THIS IS THE COVERAGE THAT WE RECEIVED.
10:25:19 PLAY THAT.
10:25:20 >> TODAY, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
10:25:26 UNVEILED THE NEXT LEVEL OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY CALLED THE
10:25:27 BEACON.
10:25:29 >> WE ARE PUTTING THEM IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE
10:25:32 CROSSING BUT ALSO FAR ENOUGH BETWEEN THE SIGNAL THAT'S
10:25:37 IT PROVIDES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY BEYOND THE SIGNAL.
10:25:38 >> OKAY, HERE IS HOW IT WORKS.
10:25:40 JUST LIKE WITH ANY CROSSWALK.
10:25:42 THE PERSON HITS THE CROSSING BUTTON.
10:25:45 UNLIKE A STANDARD CROSSWALK.
10:25:48 THERE ISN'T A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND NOT A WAIT FOR THE
10:25:50 SIGNAL TO CHANGE.
10:25:55 MUCH LIKE THE FLASHING AMBER BEACONS, A LAG TIME WHEN
10:25:57 THE PEDESTRIAN PUSHES THE BUTTON AND DRIVERS ARE
10:26:00 ALERTED WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO USE THE CROSSWALK
10:26:02 >> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HAWK BEACONS ON BUSCH
10:26:06 BOULEVARD AND THE AMBER BEACONS THAT YOU ARE USED TO
10:26:06 SEEING.
10:26:07 THIS HAS A RED FACE.
10:26:10 TRAFFIC HAS TO COME TO A STOP.
10:26:14 AND TAMPA POLICE OFFICER TELLS ME THAT EDUCATING THE
10:26:18 PUBLIC TO NAVIGATE THE CROSSWALK IS HIGH ON THEIR
10:26:18 PRIORITY LIST.
10:26:20 >> WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT AS MUCH AS
10:26:23 POSSIBLE, AND FDOT IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.
10:26:26 THEY GIVE US A LOT OF LITERATURE TO HAND OUT TO PEOPLE
10:26:28 AND WE ARE OUT AND ABOUT DOING OUR PEDESTRIAN
10:26:29 ENFORCEMENT.
10:26:32 WE HAND THESE THINGS OUT TO FOLKS.
10:26:36 >> THE SECRETARY SAYS AMBER FLASHING BEACONS WORKS WELL
10:26:38 WITH SMALLER ROADWAY.
10:26:42 BUT SIX LANES OF BUSCH BOULEVARD NEEDED THE NEXT LEVEL
10:26:43 OF PROTECTION.
10:26:46 >> GIVES THE PEDESTRIAN A FULL PROTECTION AS IF THEY
10:26:48 WERE ON A REGULAR TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
10:26:51 >> THIS ONE IS WEST OF THE LIGHT OF 56TH STREET.
10:26:54 YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE MORE OF THESE ON MANY OF THE BUSY
10:26:56 SQUARES.
10:27:00 IN TAMPA.
10:27:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:04 HOW MANY MORE SLIDES DO YOU HAVE.
10:27:04 >> I AM DONE.
10:27:08 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:27:08 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:27:09 GO AHEAD.
10:27:12 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
10:27:18 OFFICER ROY PAZ WITH THE TAMPA CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT
10:27:19 IS THE NICEST PERSON YOU WILL EVER SEE.
10:27:22 >> YES, HE IS.
10:27:25 >>LUIS VIERA: SUCH A NICE GENTLEMAN.
10:27:26 WE ALL LOVE HIM.
10:27:30 HE IS A VERY NICE GENTLEMAN.
10:27:36 THANK FDOT, SECRETARY GWYNN WITH BUSCH BOULEVARD, AN
10:27:39 AREA OF GREAT CONCERN THAT DOESN'T GET A LOT OF
10:27:40 ATTENTION.
10:27:45 THE LIVES LOST AND TRAGEDIES ON BUSCH BOULEVARD NEED
10:27:48 MORE DEFERENCE.
10:27:50 AND SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN A
10:27:52 GREAT PARTNER IN IMPROVING THAT.
10:27:55 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM LOOKING FORWARD IN HOPING
10:27:59 TO BUILD THE MOMENTUM TO IS TO GET A LOWER SPEED LIMIT
10:28:02 ON BUSCH BOULEVARD TO EVENTUALLY GET THE DESIGN SO WE
10:28:04 CAN GET A LOWER SPEED LIMIT.
10:28:08 I SEE VIK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA NODDING HIS HEAD.
10:28:10 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
10:28:13 YOU ARE ALWAYS SUCH A NICE GENTLEMAN.
10:28:15 THAT IS ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US WORKING
10:28:16 TOWARD.
10:28:18 A YEAR AGO, WE HAD THE TRAGEDY.
10:28:23 COULD HAVE BEEN A PERSPECTIVELY BIGGER ONE AT MEL HOT
10:28:24 DOGS.
10:28:28 MEL LOHN, A GREAT GUY, AND A CONSTITUENT AND ONE OF MY
10:28:30 FAVORITE PEOPLE COME TO TALK TO US ON THAT.
10:28:33 I HOPE WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE WORK, MA'AM, IN THAT
10:28:35 REGARD.
10:28:37 SOMETHING ELSE I WILL ENCOURAGE TO YOU DO IS TO WORK
10:28:40 WITH ADVOCATES IN THE BUSCH COMMUNITY INCLUDING MY
10:28:45 FRIEND,VALERIE JONES, WHO LOST HER DAUGHTER ALEXIS
10:28:50 MIRANDA, A CHAMBERLAIN STUDENT, CROSSING WEST BUSCH TO
10:28:52 GET TO CHAMBERLAIN, AND SHE LOST HER LIFE.
10:28:55 I BELIEVE IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT SHE WAS 16 YEARS
10:28:59 OLD, AND VALERIE IS JUST A VERY WONDERFUL PERSON AND AN
10:29:04 EXTRAORDINARY JOURNEY TAKEN THE WORST HITS IN LIFE.
10:29:08 THE NUMBER ONE YOU ALL ARE DOING BY GIVING THIS
10:29:11 EMPHASIS TO BUSCH BOULEVARD TO ALLOW THE VOICE THERE IS
10:29:13 TO BE LEADER AND ALLOW PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE GET THE
10:29:15 RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE.
10:29:19 I WANTED TO REALLY, REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:29:22 THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT WE ARE ALL FRUSTRATED BY
10:29:26 SOMEWHERE OUT THERE IN A HUGE WALLET HALF A BILLION
10:29:29 DOLLARS IN TRANSPORTATION MONEY THAT WE ARE ALL JUST
10:29:31 WAITING ON ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
10:29:33 AND THAT IS KIND OF THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
10:29:37 AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS AT FDOT FOR YOUR
10:29:41 EMPHASIS ON BUSCH BOULEVARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO SET THE
10:29:44 DESIGN SO WE CAN GET A LOWER SPEED LIMIT.
10:29:47 I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WILL SAVE LIVES.
10:29:52 BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU AND SECRETARY AND MR. BHIDE AND
10:29:54 EVERYBODY FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
10:29:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:57 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:29:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:30:00 THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
10:30:02 I AM WONDERING THE NEXT TIME YOU APPEAR BEFORE US AND
10:30:07 GIVE US ANOTHER APPRECIATION, IF YOU CHECK ON STATS AS
10:30:10 FAR AS ACCIDENTS, WHETHER IT BE PEDESTRIANS, BIKES OR
10:30:14 CRASHES THAT CONCERN RIGHT TURNS ON RED.
10:30:19 AND IF WE CAN BRING DOWN THOSE -- THOSE STATISTICS BY
10:30:22 TURNING MORE AND MORE STREETS WITHOUT RIGHT TURN ON
10:30:25 RED.
10:30:25 THANK YOU.
10:30:28 VIK -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VIK.
10:30:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:33 MOST HUMAN BEINGS ARE CREATURES OF HABIT.
10:30:35 WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH TRANSPORTATION?
10:30:39 WELL, IF YOU GET TO A TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION AND LOOKING
10:30:43 FOR THE ONE THAT SAYS WALK OR STOP AND YOU SEE 18, 17,
10:30:44 16, 15.
10:30:47 THEY ARE SO SMALL AND RED AND BLACK, YOU CAN'T HARDLY
10:30:52 TELL THE DIFFERENCE AND I HAVE 20/20 WITH OR WITHOUT
10:30:55 GLASSES.
10:30:59 THE REASON I WEAR GLASSES, $3,000 AN EYE SO I WOULDN'T
10:31:03 HAVE TO READ UP CLOSE AND SPEND $6,000 JUST NOT TO HAVE
10:31:04 GLASSES.
10:31:07 SO SIGNALIZATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.
10:31:10 IN SOME AREAS, YOU SEE IT GO TO ZERO, AND IT GIVES YOU
10:31:12 FIVE SECONDS TO DRIVE THROUGH.
10:31:15 AND YOU HAVE OTHERS A BLACK OR TWO BLOCKS AWAY THAT
10:31:20 WHEN IT GOES TO ZERO, IT TURNS EITHER RED OR GREEN.
10:31:21 SO WHY IS THAT?
10:31:25 AND WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SIGNALIZATIONS.
10:31:29 THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES I HAVE BEEN IN -- I AM SURE MR.
10:31:31 CARLSON HAS BEEN TO SOME OTHERS THAT HAVE THE SAME
10:31:34 THING THAT ARE TWICE AND THREE TIMES THE SIZE AND THEY
10:31:35 ARE WHITE AND BLUE.
10:31:37 BLUE BACKGROUND WITH WHITE.
10:31:39 YOU CAN SEE THEM AT DAY OR NIGHT.
10:31:42 THESE ARE SO SMALL, IT IS LIKE DIGITAL THINGS AND YOU
10:31:46 HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THEM -- IS IT 16 OR 6.
10:31:47 A 11 OR 1.
10:31:50 IT JUST -- IT IS VERY HARD TO SEE.
10:31:55 AND I LIKE WHAT MR. CITRO SAID NEXT TIME YOU COME UP
10:31:56 GIVE ME AN ANSWER.
10:31:59 NOT ASKING FOR IT TODAY, BUT GIVE US AN ANSWER WHY THEY
10:32:01 WERE SET UP AT DIFFERENT MODES.
10:32:04 SOME CHANGE AS SOON AS THEY HIT ZERO AND OTHERS WAIT
10:32:05 FIVE SECONDS.
10:32:07 WHEN YOU MENTALLY SEE IT, YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE GOING
10:32:09 TO HAVE FIVE SECONDS TO CROSS.
10:32:11 AND YOU MAKE A MISTAKE.
10:32:13 AND GUESS WHAT, THERE IS A FATALITY POSSIBILITY THAT
10:32:14 COULD HAPPEN.
10:32:15 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:32:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:20 >> COUNCILMAN, I WILL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON
10:32:22 THAT.
10:32:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:32:29 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION.
10:32:32 THE INTERNATIONAL QUESTIONS THAT I ALWAYS HAVE.
10:32:35 WHEN TRAFFIC BACKS UP IN DIFFERENT PLACES WHEN THERE IS
10:32:38 HEAVY TRAFFIC, PEOPLE WILL PULL INTO THE INTERSECTION
10:32:41 AND THEN THAT WILL BLOCK THE TRAFFIC GOING THE OTHER
10:32:41 DIRECTION.
10:32:45 AND THE BRITISH SYSTEM, THE EUROPEAN SYSTEM WAS USED
10:32:47 MOSTLY AROUND THE WORLD.
10:32:51 A BOX THAT HAS A X IN IT AND YOU CAN GET A TICKET IF
10:32:53 YOU STOP IN THE INTERSECTION.
10:32:55 WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T USE THAT IN FLORIDA OR IN THE
10:32:56 UNITED STATES?
10:32:57 ANYBODY KNOW?
10:33:00 IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS
10:33:03 WHEN THERE IS CONGESTION.
10:33:06 >> IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICK.
10:33:11 WELL, WE FOLLOW PRIMARILY NATIONAL STANDARDS AND
10:33:16 GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC
10:33:17 CONTROL DEVICES.
10:33:22 PART OF THE REASON WE FOLLOW THIS NATIONAL STANDARD AND
10:33:29 GUIDELINE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY IN SIGNAGE, MESSAGING
10:33:30 ACROSS ALL 50 STATES.
10:33:33 AND THAT IS THE COMMITMENT THAT THE STATE AND THE CITY
10:33:37 AND A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAKE TO FOLLOW IN TERMS
10:33:38 OF THE STANDARDS.
10:33:44 SO CURRENTLY, THE WAY WE OPERATE OUR SIGNALIZED
10:33:48 INTERSECTIONS ARE SUBJECT TO THOSE STANDARDS.
10:33:52 AS THEY GET UPDATED, WE CONFORM TO THEM.
10:33:59 THAT IS REALLY THE GIST OF THE STANDARDS WE HAVE TO
10:33:59 FOLLOW.
10:34:05 AS FAR AS THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL TIMINGS AND HOW THEY
10:34:08 WORK, THEY ARE MEANT FOR PEDESTRIANS ONLY.
10:34:09 USED NOT FOR DRIVERS.
10:34:12 ALTHOUGH IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT DRIVERS FOLLOW THOSE
10:34:23 CUES AND ARE REASON MAY HAVE CONTINUOUS AFTER
10:34:28 PEDESTRIAN PHASE WITH A LOT OF RIGHT TURNS LIKE.
10:34:32 I WILL FOLLOW UP THE DETAILS WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:34:35 BUT PROCEDURALLY THE STANDARDS THAT WE FOLLOW.
10:34:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:37 THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
10:34:38 LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:34:41 ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN PERSON HERE IN THE
10:34:43 AUDIENCE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO
10:34:44 SPEAK.
10:34:47 ANYBODY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
10:34:48 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:34:51 PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN, AND WE WILL START YOUR
10:35:01 TIME.
10:35:07 >> GREETINGS, EVERYONE, YOUR HIGHNESS TIFERRA.
10:35:10 OF COURSE I SPOKE AT A MEETING -- CITY COUNCIL MEETING
10:35:13 OF THE SUMMER AND YOU MAY RECOGNIZE ME OF THE LAST
10:35:14 MEETING DECEMBER 17, OF COURSE.
10:35:19 FOLLOWING BACK UP FROM THAT INTERACTION, OF COURSE
10:35:23 SEVERAL OF YOU SPOKE AND HEARD THE VOICE SEEKING SOME
10:35:25 ASSISTANCE IN THE CITY OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE
10:35:28 TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, TO INITIALIZE THAT OPEN,
10:35:31 TRANSPARENT AND HONEST DIALOGUE.
10:35:34 ONE THING I WILL NOTICE IN JUST LISTENING TO EVERYBODY
10:35:36 SO FAR IN THE MEETING WITH REGARDS TO DIFFERENT
10:35:39 PROGRAMS AND DIFFERENT INITIATIVES THAT ARE MADE FOR
10:35:44 RENEWABLE ENERGY, TRANSPORTATION ACROSS THE WALK-RIDE
10:35:46 SAFELY, STUFF LIKE THAT.
10:35:49 JUST TAKING SOME NOTES AND I WANTED TO GO OVER A FEW
10:35:53 THINGS IN CORRELATION WITH THE ANGLE I AM COMING FROM
10:35:54 AND SEEKING ASSISTANCE ON.
10:35:58 LIKE I SAID, SEVERAL PROGRAMS, NARRATIVES PRESENTED
10:36:00 SEEM TO BE A HELP TO THE CITY.
10:36:03 AND I AM ASKING -- I AM THINKING WHERE IS THE
10:36:07 ENTHUSIASM, THAT ASSISTANCE, THE ORGANIZATION WITH
10:36:10 REGARDS OF PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT -- LIKE I SAID LAST
10:36:10 TIME.
10:36:14 THE DOWNTRODDEN, DISENFRANCHISED PEOPLE IN THE
10:36:16 COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY BLACK PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO
10:36:18 FEEL THE SAME WAY OUTSIDE OF BLACK PEOPLE.
10:36:20 WHERE THE INITIATIVE?
10:36:22 WHERE IS THE ENTHUSIASM?
10:36:25 LOOK WHAT OCCURRED LAST WEEK IN D.C.
10:36:27 YOU KNOW, WITH THE RIOTS THAT WENT ON IN THE CAPITOL.
10:36:31 TO ME WHAT THAT REPRESENTS IS A BLATANT DISREGARD OF
10:36:34 PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET OUT WHAT THEY TRULY FEEL
10:36:35 ON THE INSIDE.
10:36:39 REGARDLESS OR RIGHT OR WRONG, THROWING OUT THE
10:36:42 SUBJECTIVITY AND PEOPLE WANT TO SAY THEY ARE RIGHT AND
10:36:43 THEY ARE WRONG.
10:36:46 OBVIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE ARE FEELING A CERTAIN WAY AND
10:36:49 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FEELING CERTAIN WAYS BUT FOR THE
10:36:53 SIMPLE LACK OF EFFORT THAT IS BEING MADE PUBLICIZED ON
10:36:55 PROGRAMS TO GET PEOPLE TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT IS REALLY
10:36:56 GOING ON IN HERE.
10:36:58 WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE.
10:37:00 YOU GOT THINGS LIKE THAT BUBBLING OVER.
10:37:04 AND YOU HAVE ISSUES AND INSTANCES LIKE THAT WHICH
10:37:04 HAPPENED IN D.C.
10:37:07 LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN ANALYZE IT FROM MANY DIFFERENT
10:37:11 ANGLES, BUT WHAT I SEE IN A SIMPLE WAY IS SEE THAT,
10:37:14 PEOPLE FEEL A CERTAIN WAY, THINKING CERTAIN THINGS AND
10:37:16 THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOT BEING HEARD.
10:37:16 EXCUSE ME.
10:37:18 SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE TAKE TO THE STREETS AND START DOING
10:37:20 CERTAIN THINGS AND PEOPLE KILLED.
10:37:21 LIVES RUINED.
10:37:22 AND SO ON.
10:37:25 SO JUST A REFLECTION, I SAID, AGAIN, THAT PEOPLE ARE
10:37:28 PINNING UP A LOT OF THESE THINGS INSIDE THAT IS NOT
10:37:29 COMING OUT.
10:37:31 ALSO WE KNOW WHY SOME THINGS DON'T HAPPEN IN THE
10:37:32 COUNTRY.
10:37:34 A NATURE OF CAPITALISM.
10:37:37 NO CAPITAL GAIN CAN BE PERCEIVED TO BE MADE.
10:37:40 THE ACTION SHOWS PRETTY MUCH THAT NO ONE KILLED AND SAD
10:37:44 IT HAS TO THE TIED INTO A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO GET
10:37:47 MOTIVATION AND HOW WE ADAPTED IN THE CUSTOMS THAT WE
10:37:49 HAVE GROWN UP IN AND THE WAYS OF THE WORLD AND THE
10:37:50 SOCIETY WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
10:37:53 ALSO LISTENING TO WHAT SOME PEOPLE SAID -- I HEARD A
10:37:56 NARRATIVE -- A CHANCE TO BE A LEADER IN THE STATE,
10:38:00 NATION AND WORLD IN TAMPA WITH REGARDS TO RENEWABLE
10:38:00 ENERGY.
10:38:03 THAT IS THE SAME NARRATIVE I AM PUSHING GETTING PEOPLE
10:38:03 TOGETHER.
10:38:05 WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BE A LEADER IN THE STATE, IN THE
10:38:06 WORLD, IN THE CITY.
10:38:10 YOU KNOW, AROUND -- TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND SAY,
10:38:12 LOOK WHAT WE ARE DOING BECAUSE NO CONSTRUCTIVE EFFORT
10:38:16 THAT I AM PUBLICLY SEEING ACROSS THE CITY, STATE AND
10:38:17 NATION.
10:38:22 I ALSO HEARD A LINE -- IT IS NO LONGER ASPIRATION.
10:38:22 A GOAL.
10:38:25 YOU SAID THAT WITH THE ENERGY.
10:38:27 I AM FEELING THE SAME WAY ABOUT -- WE NEED TO GET WHAT
10:38:30 WE GOT TO GET ON THE OUTSIDE OUT IN THE OPEN TO COME TO
10:38:33 A BETTER RESOLUTION OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE
10:38:34 EXHIBITING.
10:38:36 ALSO JUST TO WRAP IT UP, I WANT TO ACTUALLY SAY, GIVE
10:38:38 THANKS TO MR. CARLSON.
10:38:41 I ACTUALLY DID HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED JANUARY 27.
10:38:43 AND MR. LUIS VIERA.
10:38:46 REPRESENTATIVE REACHED OUT TO ACTUALLY ME TO TRY TO
10:38:47 SCHEDULE SOMETHING.
10:38:49 I WANT TO ACTUALLY ASK ON A WEEKEND.
10:38:51 SAID YOU TRAVEL A LOT.
10:38:53 BUT WE RUN THE PROGRAM ON THE WEEKENDS.
10:38:55 SO I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN SPEAK WITH YOU DIRECTLY
10:38:58 INSTEAD OF SPEAKING SOMEBODY IN BETWEEN TO LINE THAT
10:38:58 UP.
10:39:00 JUST TO SUM IT ALL UP.
10:39:01 I KNOW MY TIME IS RAN OUT.
10:39:04 I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT MADE TO ME AND REACHED OUT SO
10:39:07 FAR AND GIVES ME HOPE AND MR. GUDES.
10:39:11 I REACHED OUT WITH JANELLE MCGREGOR.
10:39:13 I NEVER GOT A RETURN OR ANSWER BACK.
10:39:16 >> I AM SURE SHE IS LISTENING AND WE WILL GET BACK TO
10:39:16 YOU.
10:39:18 E-MAIL MY OFFICE AGAIN.
10:39:20 AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS, SIR.
10:39:20 >> OKAY.
10:39:22 GIVE THANKS AGAIN FOR HEARING ME OUT.
10:39:23 I NEED HELP.
10:39:24 I NEED SOME ASSISTANCE.
10:39:26 I AM NOT DOING THIS FOR PERSONAL GAIN THERE IS A
10:39:27 PROBLEM IN THE COUNTRY.
10:39:29 THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE CITY.
10:39:32 PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO GET OUT WHAT THEY FEEL ON THE INSIDE
10:39:35 IN THE OPEN AND TREMENDOUS STRIDES BUT EACH ONE OF YOU
10:39:37 INDIVIDUALLY FOR THE CITY AND FOR US TOGETHER, PLEASE
10:39:38 CONSIDER THIS.
10:39:39 GIVE ME ASSISTANCE.
10:39:42 I AM PUTTING FORTH MY EFFORTS.
10:39:45 MEET ME HALFWAY AND LET'S SPEAK OF THIS AND PUSH THIS
10:39:46 FORWARD.
10:39:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:54 >> I AM GLAD TO BE HERE.
10:39:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
10:39:58 >> I THOUGHT YOU KNOW ME.
10:40:04 MY NAME IS CLAY DANIELS, 3808 EAST, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:40:06 YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THIS LOUD MUSIC.
10:40:10 AND WHAT WE DON'T REALIZE THAT IT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL
10:40:11 PROBLEM.
10:40:13 I HEARD PEOPLE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT ENVIRONMENT.
10:40:15 WHAT GOES UP MUST GO DOWN.
10:40:21 THIS LOUD MUSIC -- IT IS -- IT IS ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM
10:40:26 DETRIMENTAL TO OUR SOCIETY LIKE THE NOISE.
10:40:29 I SPOKE WITH CHIEF BENNETT, THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:40:32 MANY CHIEF -- A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AND HE ALWAYS COME BY
10:40:33 THE HOUSE.
10:40:35 AND WE WERE TALKING THIS MORNING AND CAME UP WITH
10:40:36 DIFFERENT IDEAS.
10:40:37 I TOLD HIM.
10:40:38 THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
10:40:43 WE GET A GRANT FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND HAVE TWO
10:40:45 POLICE OFFICERS FOR NIGHT AND DAY JUST ON THE LOUD
10:40:46 MUSIC.
10:40:51 THAT WAS CONGESTED.
10:40:52 WE CAME UP WITH THAT.
10:40:55 WHEN I WENT TO GET MY SHOT AT ST. JOSEPH THE OTHER DAY
10:40:59 FOR THIS VIERA, IT WAS LIKE -- AND I -- I DON'T WANT TO
10:41:03 LIE, BUT THING 13 OR 14 POLICES THERE.
10:41:05 AND I CAME UP WITH THE IDEA.
10:41:09 I SAID WE GOT THESE MANY POLICE OVER HERE AND MORE.
10:41:11 WE CAN GET TWO POLICE OFFICERS TO WORK ON THE LOUD
10:41:12 MUSIC PROBLEM.
10:41:16 GET A GRANT AND TRY IT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
10:41:20 GET ONE AT NIGHT AND ONE AT DAYTIME TO SPECIALIZE IN
10:41:22 HANDLING NOISE PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW.
10:41:24 AND JUST TRY, YOU KNOW.
10:41:25 JUST GET A GRANT.
10:41:28 TRY TO GET A LOAN FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND SEE
10:41:31 HOW IT WORKS LIKE A STUDY AND IT WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL,
10:41:34 AND WE GO FROM THERE.
10:41:38 AND I THINK YOU ALL LISTEN TO ME.
10:41:41 I KNOW YOU ALL LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE I THINK WE WILL GET
10:41:43 THIS THING ROLLING BECAUSE CHIEF BENNETT REALLY CARES
10:41:46 ABOUT THIS PROBLEM JUST LIKE YOU ALL DO.
10:41:49 I KNOW YOU ALL ARE TIRED OF ME COMING UP HERE AND I AM
10:41:52 TIRED OF COMING AND I WANT TO GET THIS THING OVER WITH
10:41:56 BUT I WANT IT TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL.
10:42:00 GET JUDY ELLIS TO COME IN.
10:42:02 SHE SPECIALIZES IN THIS AND SHE CAN BE VERY HELPFUL TO
10:42:02 US.
10:42:05 WE NEED TO BRING IN ALL THE PROFESSIONALS TO PUT THIS
10:42:08 TOGETHER SO WE DON'T MAKE MISTAKE.
10:42:11 WE DID THE SAME THING WITH FRANK REDDICK AT CITY
10:42:14 COUNCIL AND SPENT ALL THIS TIME AND NOW WE ARE BACK TO
10:42:14 SQUARE ONE.
10:42:16 THE NOISE IS BAD.
10:42:19 AND WE -- WE JUST DIDN'T GET ANYTHING DONE.
10:42:22 WE NEED TO GET THIS THING DONE SO PEOPLE WON'T CONTINUE
10:42:22 TO SUFFER.
10:42:25 THANK YOU.
10:42:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:42:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:42:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DANIELS, I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN
10:42:35 HERE A LONG TIME AND A GENTLEMAN -- I HAD PUT A
10:42:39 COMPLAINT TO SEVERAL OF MY CONSTITUENTS TO LOUD MUSIC
10:42:42 AT A ESTABLISHMENT IN HILLSBOROUGH DURING THE EVENING
10:42:45 TIME AND I WAS GOING TO PICK UP MY LAUNDRY, AND I SAW
10:42:48 THE CODE ENFORCEMENT GENTLEMAN GOING TO DEAL WITH THE
10:42:48 COMPLAINT.
10:42:50 IT IS IRONIC THAT WE WERE THERE.
10:42:51 HE RECOGNIZED ME.
10:42:54 I SAID, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT HAPPEN IN THE
10:42:55 EVENING TIME.
10:42:58 AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY CODE OFFICERS IN THE
10:42:58 EVENING TIME.
10:43:02 AND HE MADE REFERENCE TO THAT CODE DOESN'T HAVE ANY
10:43:04 NOISE METERS AT ALL.
10:43:07 AND I -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF ODD.
10:43:10 SO I AM PROBABLY GOING TO ASK THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
10:43:14 DIRECTOR IF THAT IS FACTUAL AND TRUE TO GET -- I THINK
10:43:16 THAT IS CRAZY.
10:43:21 IF CODE DOESN'T HAVE SOME OF THE TOOLS IF THEY HAVE A
10:43:24 COMPLAINT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA UNIT, POLICE UNIT, IF
10:43:26 CODE IS THERE FOR THE METERS.
10:43:28 I AM GOING TO PUT A MEMO OUT IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
10:43:31 I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY ODD AND I LIKE THE IDEA MR.
10:43:34 DANIELS AND MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
10:43:36 >> WE TRIED CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:43:39 WE WERE SCARED THEY WOULD GET JUMPED ON AND BRING LAW
10:43:40 ENFORCEMENT INVOLVED.
10:43:45 WHEN MR. REDDICK WAS ON CITY COUNCIL, WE THOUGHT ABOUT
10:43:48 THAT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT THOUGHT -- THIS WOULD BE TOO
10:43:52 MUCH ON US BECAUSE PEOPLE GET NASTY AND WANT TO FIGHT
10:43:54 AND TURN IT OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
10:43:56 THEY THOUGHT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
10:43:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:59 ANYBODY ELSE HERE IN THE PUBLIC?
10:44:00 HEARING NONE.
10:44:04 WE HAVE I BELIEVE SEVEN REGISTERED SPEAKERS AT THIS
10:44:04 TIME.
10:44:08 GO AHEAD WITH THOSE THAT ARE REGISTERED VIRTUALLY.
10:44:10 WE WILL BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:44:11 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:44:12 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:44:15 >> YES.
10:44:15 JORDANA YAMPOLSKY.
10:44:20 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
10:44:22 >> PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:44:23 >> HI, COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:44:26 MY NAME IS JORDANA YAMPOLSKY.
10:44:29 I AM A RESIDENT CURRENTLY OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:44:31 LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
10:44:36 I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THIS MONEY TO THE
10:44:41 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR USE OF PURCHASING LIGHT
10:44:45 BARS FOR THE CARS AND MAINTENANCE ON THOSE AND ALSO --
10:44:50 AND THAT IS A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS, KEEP IN MIND
10:44:55 OVER TWO YEARS, WOW, AND $100,000 FOR NIGHT VISION
10:44:57 BINOCULARS.
10:45:01 HONESTLY, YOU GUYS COME IN HERE BASICALLY EVERY TWO
10:45:04 WEEKS, AND YOU ALLOCATE MORE MONEY AND YOU -- YOU
10:45:07 APPROVE THIS AND YOU HAIL THE POLICE OFFICERS FOR THEIR
10:45:09 -- FOR THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:45:12 I JUST REALLY WANTED TO COME OUT TODAY TO POINT OUT HOW
10:45:17 INFLATED THIS $176 MILLION POLICE BUDGET IS THAT YOU
10:45:19 ALL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
10:45:23 AND JUST HOW FRIVOLOUSLY IT CAN BE SPENT, ALL THIS
10:45:27 MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT ON THE COMMUNITY IF YOU
10:45:29 HAVEN'T APPROVED IT TO GO INTO THE TAMPA POLICE
10:45:30 DEPARTMENT BUDGET.
10:45:35 ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND JUST TO BRING TO YOU
10:45:39 GUYS' ATTENTION THE HARASSMENT AND THE TARGETING OF OUR
10:45:43 COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW ESPECIALLY WITH THE SUPER BOWL A
10:45:44 MONTH AWAY.
10:45:47 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN GIVEN A JOB TO
10:45:50 CLEAN SWEEP THEM OUT -- OUT OF VIEW, I GUESS, OF THE
10:45:51 PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN.
10:45:55 AND IT DISTURBS ME AND DISTURBS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE
10:46:04 COMMUNITY THAT ARE TRYING TO HELP THESE PEOPLE I GUESS
10:46:05 I YIELD MY TIME.
10:46:05 THANK YOU.
10:46:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:11 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:46:16 >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MATTHEW YAMPOLSKY.
10:46:18 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:46:20 >> YES, HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:46:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:46:29 >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT AND MAYBE GIVE YOU
10:46:54 GUYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE SOME COMMENTARY BACK.
10:46:57 >> AND THERE IS A NOTICE THERE FROM THE CITY SAYING FOR
10:47:00 A SEIZURE OF THEIR PROPERTY WITHIN 24 OR 48 HOURS OR
10:47:03 SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE ACROSS
10:47:07 THE STREET FROM A BRAND-NEW LUXURY HOTEL THAT IS, LIKE,
10:47:09 ABOUT TO BE FINISHED FOR SUPER BOWL WEEK AND IT IS LIKE
10:47:12 REALLY DIRTY WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
10:47:15 I KNOW NOT SPECIFICALLY YOU GUYS, BUT THE COPS.
10:47:18 BUT THE COPS BUDGET THAT ARE APPROVED BY YOU SO YEAH,
10:47:21 IT IS YOU GUYS' FAULT AND DISGUSTING.
10:47:25 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, $100,000 IS GOING FOR NIGHT
10:47:27 VISION GOGGLES FOR COPS.
10:47:30 WHAT DO THEY NEED NIGHT VISION GOGGLES FOR.
10:47:31 A JOKE.
10:47:38 WE CALL YOU GUYS EVERY -- EVERY -- MONTH AND YOU IGNORE
10:47:41 US AND TOTALLY COOL WITH PEOPLE STARVING AND ON THE
10:47:45 STREET AND WE GET NIGHT VISION FOR THE COPS -- PARDON
10:47:47 MY FRENCH.
10:47:50 SORRY, YOU GUYS ARE A JOKE.
10:47:52 EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF
10:47:53 YOURSELVES.
10:47:55 PEOPLE ARE DYING AND ROUNDED UP AND THROWN INTO JAIL,
10:47:59 AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU GUYS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
10:48:05 MURDERS OF JONAS JOSEPH AND MULKEY.
10:48:07 YOU ARE MURDERS AND SOCIOPATHS.
10:48:09 I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE.
10:48:10 YOU GUYS ARE A JOKE.
10:48:11 I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
10:48:12 I YIELD MY TIME.
10:48:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:15 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:48:18 >> NEXT WEAKER IS KERRY WARDINO.
10:48:26 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:48:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:48:38 >> MS. KERRY WARDINO, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:48:39 OKAY.
10:48:41 I THINK HE IS HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.
10:48:44 WE WILL MOVE ON TO MR. JOE RUTHERFORD.
10:48:47 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:48:48 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:48:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:48:54 >> THANK YOU FOR THE TIME, COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:49:00 JOE RUTHERFORD, THE CEO OF GRACEPOINT HERE IN TAMPA ON
10:49:03 THE CORNER OF 22ND AND EAST HENRY.
10:49:07 I WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHAT HAS REALLY
10:49:11 BECOME MORE OF A -- OF A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, A
10:49:14 COMMUNITY INITIATIVE --
10:49:17 >> JOE, COULD YOU PICK UP YOUR PHONE MAYBE BECAUSE IT
10:49:21 IS VERY DIFFICULT TO HEAR YOU.
10:49:29 >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PHONE -- I AM USING A LAPTOP.
10:49:31 ARE YOU HEARING AN ECHO?
10:49:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY MUFFLED WHEN YOU SPEAK.
10:49:37 >> OKAY.
10:49:42 IS THIS ANY BETTER?
10:49:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SLIGHTLY BETTER BUT NOT TOO MUCH.
10:49:50 >> IS THERE A PHONE NUMBER TO DIAL INTO?
10:49:52 >> WE CAN UNDERSTAND YOU.
10:49:53 SORRY, JUST GO AHEAD WITH THIS.
10:49:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:50:02 >> OKAY, WELL THE UPDATE IS WE AS A COMMUNITY
10:50:08 PROVIDERS LED BY GAIL RYDER HAS REALLY KIND OF HERDED
10:50:10 THE CAT SO TO SPEAK.
10:50:16 ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVE INCLUDE GRACEPOINT, OBVIOUSLY BAY
10:50:20 CARE THAT IS ALREADY DOING A CO- -- A CO-RESPONDER
10:50:23 MODEL WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN PASCO COUNTY.
10:50:29 WE HAVE DACCO AT THE TABLE, OF COURSE GRACEPOINT, NORTH
10:50:30 SIDE MENTAL HEALTH.
10:50:36 WE HAD SEVERAL MEETING WITH TPD OFFICERS ON THE 12TH
10:50:37 TWO DAYS AGO.
10:50:41 SO RATHER THAN ANY OF US RESPONDING TO THE RFP, WE SAID
10:50:44 WE NEED TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE IN THE
10:50:47 CITY OF TAMPA.
10:50:50 THE PROGRESS IS MOVING ALONG WELL WITH THAT.
10:50:54 WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ACTUALLY EARLIER THIS WEEK TWO
10:50:56 COMPONENTS OF THE MODEL.
10:50:59 THE FIRST WILL BE A CO-RESPONDER OR RIDE ALONG WITH THE
10:51:00 CLINICAL STAFF.
10:51:03 THE OTHER WILL BE CARE COORDINATION.
10:51:07 SO FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED HELP, BE IT WITH
10:51:12 HOUSING OR ENGAGING OF INDIVIDUALS, MEDICALLY OR
10:51:16 SUBSTANCE ABUSE WISE, AND A PERIOD OF TIME TO WORK WITH
10:51:20 THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN A CARE COORDINATION MODEL.
10:51:25 THE MEETING WRAPPED UP AT TPD HAS PUT TOGETHER -- IS
10:51:27 PUTTING TOGETHER A MAP OF WHERE MOST OF THE CALLS
10:51:28 ORIGINATE FROM.
10:51:31 WE ARE GOING TO SYNC UP WITH VARIOUS PROVIDER
10:51:33 LOCATIONS.
10:51:35 OUR NEXT MEETING WILL ON JANUARY 25.
10:51:41 SO THE -- THE OVERALL GOOD NEWS IS, I THINK WE WILL BE
10:51:45 PRESENTED EVENTUALLY AND RECOMMENDED BY TPD AND WILL BE
10:51:50 THE OUTGROWTH OF A MULTIPLE AGENCY MEETINGS AND
10:51:54 COORDINATION WITH THE TAMPA POLICE.
10:51:58 SO I THINK THE -- THE BAD NEWS IS, WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL
10:51:59 TO PRESENT YET.
10:52:03 THE GOOD NEWS IS -- AND AGAIN I WILL GIVE KUDOS TO GAIL
10:52:09 RYDER AND YOU HAVE THE LONG-TERM COMMUNITY PROVIDERS AT
10:52:12 THE TABLE WORKING HAND IN GLOVE WITH TPD.
10:52:15 WE PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUELY TAILORED FOR
10:52:17 TAMPA'S NEEDS.
10:52:21 AND I WILL -- SHORT OF ANY QUESTION, I WILL YIELD MY
10:52:22 TIME.
10:52:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:27 WE DON'T ENGAGE THE PUBLIC -- BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO
10:52:30 AHEAD, SIR.
10:52:33 >> JUST ONE THING MANY PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC HAVE ASKED
10:52:35 US TO LOOK INTO MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS AS ALTERNATIVES
10:52:37 TO POLICE ENGAGEMENT.
10:52:40 GRACEPOINT KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME ALREADY HAS AN
10:52:43 ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM, BUT I -- BECAUSE I KNEW THEM
10:52:48 ALREADY I MET WITH THEM RECENTLY AND I ENCOURAGE FOLKS
10:52:51 IN THE COMMUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE
10:52:51 DOING.
10:52:54 LOOK AT THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM AND SEE WHATEVER OTHER
10:52:59 UPGRADES WE CAN DO AND WHAT HE SAID -- I DON'T KNOW IF
10:53:02 ANYBODY COULD HEAR, WORKING TO HAVE PARTNERSHIP OF
10:53:04 COLLABORATION WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT GROUPS TO TRY TO
10:53:08 SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF PROBLEMS THAT FOLKS IN THE
10:53:09 COMMUNITY.
10:53:11 AND GRACEPOINT HAVE BUILT TWO OR THREE AFFORDABLE
10:53:17 HOUSING COMPLEX TO HELP WITH THE SHORTAGE TO GET PEOPLE
10:53:18 HOUSELESS INTO HOMES.
10:53:20 THANK YOU TO ANYONE SUPPORTING THEM.
10:53:22 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY
10:53:25 AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
10:53:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:29 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:53:35 >> YES, NEXT SPEAKER, KERRY WARDINO.
10:53:37 IF YOU HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:53:40 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:53:43 MR. WARDINO, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:53:45 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:53:48 MY NAME IS KERRY WARDINO.
10:53:52 I WAS BORN HERE IN TAMPA AND ACCOMPANIED BY MY WIFE,
10:53:55 SANDRA WARDINO WHO IS ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
10:53:56 ME.
10:53:58 >> HI, GOOD MORNING.
10:54:03 THIS MORNING BY THE INDUCTION OF SECTION 3.616.216 TO
10:54:07 THE BOARD OF STATUES THE MOVE-OVER LAW IS A GREAT FIRST
10:54:10 STEP OF RECOGNIZING WRECKER OR TOW TRUCK DRIVERS AND
10:54:13 INCLUDING THEM AS EMERGENCY ROADSIDE VEHICLES MAKING
10:54:14 THEM ESSENTIAL.
10:54:18 MY HUSBAND, KERRY, HAS BEEN A WRECKER OPERATOR FOR 30
10:54:20 YEARS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:54:22 AND TODAY, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY CODE WHICH
10:54:27 PROHIBITS PARKING A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE AT A RESIDENTIAL
10:54:27 PROPERTY.
10:54:30 THIS HAS BECOME A MAJOR ISSUE FOR MANY WRECKER
10:54:33 OPERATORS CAUSING SOME TO HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR
10:54:37 DESPERATELY NEEDED JOBS DUE TO THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS
10:54:38 CODE.
10:54:41 NOT ALL WRECKER COMPANIES SERVICE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
10:54:46 ROTATION LIST; HOWEVER, THOSE WHO DO NEED IMMEDIATE
10:54:49 ACCESS TO THEIR TRUCKS 24-7.
10:54:53 CAREY CURRENTLY SERVICES FIVE SEPARATE LAW ENFORCEMENT
10:54:56 AGENCIES AS A ROTATION WRECKER DRIVER.
10:55:01 WRECKER OPERATORS ON THIS LIST HAVE 30 MINUTES ONLY TO
10:55:07 ARRIVE ON SCENE FOR AN ACCIDENT OR AN INBOUND OR
10:55:08 VEHICLE BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
10:55:13 THE TOW TRUCK OPERATOR BASICALLY HAS TO HAVE A SPECIAL
10:55:17 LICENSE, A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION LICENSE, THAT IS
10:55:20 REQUIRED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ROTATION CALLS.
10:55:23 THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, CLEARING
10:55:28 ROADWAYS, THE TOW TRUCK IS PRETTY MUCH THE AUTOMOTIVE
10:55:29 AMBULANCE.
10:55:31 UNFORTUNATELY THE WORDING OF THIS CODE LUMPS THE
10:55:37 WRECKER OR THE TOW TRUCK WITH VEHICLES SUCH AS AN AC
10:55:42 REPAIR VAN OR A LAWN MAINTENANCE TRUCK.
10:55:46 AS A RESULT, WRECKER OPERATORS ARE SUBJECTED TO
10:55:48 CONTINUED HARASSMENT BY NEIGHBORHOOD CODE ENFORCEMENT
10:55:49 PERSONNEL.
10:55:53 NOW THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB PER THE CODE AS -- AS IT
10:55:56 IS WRITTEN WHICH IS WHY EMERGENCY VEHICLES SUCH AS A
10:56:01 WRECKER, AS MENTIONED IN THE MOVE-OVER LAW SHOULD BE
10:56:03 EXEMPT FROM THIS CODE.
10:56:08 WE ARE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE CODE BUT TO AMEND IT
10:56:10 AUTHORIZING ROTATION WRECKERS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
10:56:13 BE THE EXCEPTION, TO NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED THE
10:56:17 COMMERCIAL VEHICLE CATEGORY, AND TO BE CONSIDERED
10:56:21 EMERGENCY VEHICLE AND TO BE EXEMPT FROM THIS CODES.
10:56:26 ROTATION WRECKERS WORK TIRELESSLY IN ALL WEATHER
10:56:29 CONDITIONS WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, CITY AND COUNTY.
10:56:31 PLEASE APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT REQUEST.
10:56:34 MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO BETTER SERVE US.
10:56:34 THANK YOU.
10:56:38 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:56:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:43 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:56:48 >>CLERK: CHAIR, THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT,
10:56:51 AND NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ARE LOGGED ON AND IN
10:56:54 ADDITION, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECORDED MESSAGES.
10:56:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:56 WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
10:57:00 BEFORE WE DO, HOW ABOUT WE BREAK FOR LUNCH AT $12
10:57:02 TODAY.
10:57:03 ANY OBJECTION?
10:57:07 WE WILL BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12 AND COME BACK AT 1:15 OR
10:57:08 1:30.
10:57:10 OKEY-DOKEY.
10:57:21 ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:57:24 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS A FIRST READING ON A
10:57:28 LEGISLATIVE MATTER AND NORMALLY NO PRESENTATIONS FOR
10:57:29 THIS.
10:57:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:57:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY WE REQUEST ADMINISTRATION TO
10:57:35 MAKE COMMENTS OR A PRESENTATION.
10:57:38 MISS FEELEY AS WELL AS ONLINE.
10:57:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CATE WELLS ON THE LINE ALONG WITH
10:57:45 ABBYE FEELEY AND MR. DINGFELDER.
10:57:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:57:49 I AM PLEASED TO READ THIS ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.
10:57:54 AN AMENDMENT TO OUR FRONT PORCH ORDINANCE WHICH IS
10:58:00 ENCOURAGES AND INCENTIVIZES FOLKS TO BUILD FRONT
10:58:04 PORCHES ON THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR TO -- WHEN THEY
10:58:07 ARE REMODELING THEIR HOMES TO ADD FRONT PORCHES AND
10:58:11 ALLOWS UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES TO ALLOW THEM TO GO
10:58:17 INTO THE TRADITIONAL FRONT YARD SETBACK TO DO SO.
10:58:22 STAFF HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH -- WITH US AND LEGAL
10:58:23 TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
10:58:27 I WILL BE GLAD TO READ THIS --
10:58:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:58:34 POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS FOR ITEM 5 AND 6.
10:58:34 IS THAT CORRECT?
10:58:37 A MEMO FROM MISS FEELEY.
10:58:41 DO WE HAVE POWERPOINT?
10:58:44 >> MR. MANISCALCO, THIS IS ABBYE FEELEY.
10:58:47 WE DO NOT HAVE -- WE DO NOT HAVE PRESENTATIONS ON THIS.
10:58:51 WHAT I SUBMITTED WITH THAT MEMO WAS THE RESOLUTION FROM
10:58:54 THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN SUPPORT OF BOTH OF THESE
10:58:57 ITEMS 5 AND 6.
10:59:00 IT JUST CAME TO MY ATTENTION A FEW DAYS AGO THAT
10:59:04 SOMEHOW OVER THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN AWAY FROM THE
10:59:07 CITY THAT PRESENTATIONS ON THESE ITEMS HAVE GONE TO
10:59:14 SECOND READING MOVING FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, IN
10:59:18 COOPERATION WITH COUNCIL TO MOVE IT BACK TO FIRST
10:59:20 READING TO ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE MODIFICATION IT IS
10:59:25 NECESSARY AND AVOID ANY POTENTIAL -- BECAUSE IF YOU
10:59:28 MADE A CHANGE AT SECOND READING IT HAS GOT TO GO BACK
10:59:29 TO FIRST READING.
10:59:32 AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MODIFY THAT MOVING FORWARD BUT
10:59:34 THESE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT YOU WORKSHOPPED JUST
10:59:36 RECENTLY WITH US IN OCTOBER.
10:59:39 AND WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THEM.
10:59:41 AND ALL MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND THOSE
10:59:44 ORDINANCES ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR FIRST READING AND
10:59:48 WE WOULD RESPECT YOUR -- SORRY, WE WOULD REQUEST YOUR
10:59:50 APPROVAL TO THAT THIS MORNING.
10:59:56 IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LACHONE DOCK AND MYSELF
10:59:58 AND MISS WELLS IS ON THE LINE AS WELL.
10:59:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
11:00:01 COUNCILMEMBERS?
11:00:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LIKE MIRANDA.
11:00:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:00:11 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
11:00:14 FOR REMEMBERING THIS WHEN YOU WERE ON COUNCIL BEFORE
11:00:16 AND FOLLOWING UP ON THIS AND FIXING IT.
11:00:19 A GREAT IDEA AND ONE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE WANTED AND WILL
11:00:23 ADD TO OUR -- ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, PEOPLE ARE
11:00:25 REALIZING HOW IMPORTANT THE AREA AROUND WHERE THEY LIVE
11:00:28 AND THANKS TO STAFF FOR RESEARCHING AND PUTTING IT
11:00:33 TOGETHER.
11:00:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:35 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:00:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:00:39 I WANT CLARITY ON 1B AND F.
11:00:43 SAYS SHALL BE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH UP TO EIGHT FEET
11:00:46 ESTABLISH FRONT YARD; HOWEVER, NO TIME MAY THE FRONT
11:00:49 PORCH BE LESS THAN FIVE FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY
11:00:54 LINE.
11:00:57 WERE IS THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE FROM THE FRONT OF THE
11:00:58 HOUSE.
11:01:01 IS IT 25 FEET IN THE SETBACK?
11:01:04 >> DEPENDS WHAT ZONING DISTRICT IS IN.
11:01:07 THAT PROVISION IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSING WHERE WE HAVE
11:01:08 FRONT YARD AVERAGING.
11:01:12 WHERE WE HAVE AVERAGING IN EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA,
11:01:16 EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE AN RS-50 WHICH IS A 20-FOOT FRONT
11:01:21 YARD, YOU MAY BE AT 18 FEET BECAUSE OF THE AVERAGING.
11:01:22 SO 18.
11:01:25 AND THEN IF YOU ALLOW THE EIGHT FEET, THAT GETS YOU TO
11:01:26 TEN FEET.
11:01:31 IF AN AVERAGE IS LESS THAN THAT, IN ORDER TO BE IN
11:01:35 CONCERT WITH THE BUILDING CODE, WE WANTED TO ALLOW
11:01:36 NOTHING LESS THAN FIVE.
11:01:39 SO ON SOME OF OUR AVERAGING SITUATIONS, THAT IS WHERE
11:01:44 YOU WOULD BE GETTING DOWN TO THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT
11:01:47 FIVE POTENTIALLY EXISTING IF YOUR AVERAGE WAS, YOU
11:01:51 KNOW, AT TEN FEET AND YOU ALLOWED AN EIGHT-FOOT
11:01:53 ENCROACHMENT YOU WOULD BE DOWN TO TWO FEET.
11:01:58 WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN CONCERT WITH THE BUILDING
11:02:01 CODE IF YOU GET PAST THAT FIVE FEET, YOU HAVE TO RATE
11:02:03 THE WALL DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU ARE CLOSER TO THE
11:02:05 PROPERTY LINE ACCORDING TO BUILDING CODE.
11:02:08 WE JUST WANTED TO BE CONSISTENCY WITH THAT AND NOT
11:02:12 CREATE ANY HARDSHIPS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
11:02:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND, BUT A LAYPERSON WOULD
11:02:17 NOT KNOW LIKE MYSELF, EIGHT FEET AND NO LESS THAN FIVE
11:02:18 FEET.
11:02:20 YOU START THINKING WHAT IS THE SETBACK.
11:02:23 AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION HAS
11:02:25 BECOME -- I CERTAINLY WILL SUPPORT THIS IN THE PAST AND
11:02:29 WILL CONTINUE; HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT THAT FRONT PORCH
11:02:31 TO BE ANOTHER PART OF THE HOUSE AS RENTAL PROPERTY OR
11:02:32 ANOTHER ROOM.
11:02:38 HOW CAN WE DRAFT IT SO THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN?
11:02:40 >> IT DOES NOT ALLOW ENCLOSURE.
11:02:42 THAT IS BACK IN THE BEGINNING.
11:02:45 IT MUST REMAIN OPEN ON THREE SIDES AND MAY ONLY BE
11:02:48 ATTACHED OF THE FRONT FACADE OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:02:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FUTURE COUNCILS AND FUTURE
11:02:53 ADMINISTRATIONS CAN ADHERE TO THAT AND WILL NOT CHANGE
11:02:55 UNLESS THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING OR SOMETHING?
11:02:56 >> CORRECT.
11:03:02 IT IS IN 1A, SAYS THAT THE PORCH IS OPEN ON ALL SIDES.
11:03:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, I JUST --
11:03:06 >> IT HAS TO REMAIN OPEN AND CANNOT BE ENCLOSED.
11:03:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN ABBYE
11:03:13 FEELEY AND THE REST OF US RETIRED AT YOUNG AGE, THAT
11:03:14 DOESN'T HAPPEN.
11:03:15 >> YES, SIR.
11:03:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:03:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:20 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:03:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:03:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA AND MR. CARLSON AND
11:03:28 ANYBODY ELSE, GOOD QUESTIONS.
11:03:31 MR. MIRANDA, DEFINITELY THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE
11:03:35 PRECLUDED THE ENCLOSURE OF THESE AND THIS AMENDMENT
11:03:37 DOES LIKEWISE.
11:03:39 MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
11:03:45 CONSIDERATION WITH REGARD TO FILE NUMBER 2021-8,
11:03:47 CHAPTER 27.
11:03:49 FRONT PORCHES AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS MAKING
11:03:53 REVISIONS TO THE TAMPA CITY CODE CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND
11:03:59 LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING 27.-159 PROJECTING REQUIRED
11:04:03 LAWS, APPEALING ORDINANCE AND ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
11:04:08 PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:04:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:04:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
11:04:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:04:12 ANY OPPOSED?
11:04:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:16 ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:04:18 OH, GO AHEAD, CLERK.
11:04:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:04:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:04:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:04:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:04:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:04:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:04:35 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES THE UNANIMOUSLY WITH
11:04:38 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:04:43 SECOND HEARING ADOPTION FEBRUARY 4, 2021 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:04:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:47 ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:04:51 >> ITEM NUMBER 6 IS ALSO A TEXT AMENDMENT CHANGE.
11:04:54 MODIFICATIONS TO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY THAT WERE
11:04:58 BROUGHT FORTH BY THE WEST TAMPA CAC TO UPDATE ITEMS
11:05:02 WITHIN THE FULL PRESENTATION ON THIS WOULD BE AT SECOND
11:05:07 READING BUT WE DID JUST WORKSHOP THIS IN FULL AT THE
11:05:08 END OF OCTOBER.
11:05:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
11:05:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:05:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS FEELEY, I ASKED YOU THIS
11:05:18 QUESTION PRIVATELY, BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU PUBLICLY
11:05:20 AND FLESH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
11:05:26 IN ONE PROVISION OF THIS CHANGE, IT TAKES THE REQUIRED
11:05:32 TREE REPLACEMENT DOWN FROM FOUR INCHES CALIPER TO THREE
11:05:34 INCHES CALIPER.
11:05:36 I AM JUST CURIOUS.
11:05:40 DOES OUR NORMAL CODE -- IS OUR NORMAL CODE THREE INCHES
11:05:42 ON REPLACEMENT?
11:05:45 >> STANDARD CODE IS ACTUALLY TWO INCHES.
11:05:49 THE OVERLAY AND DOWNTOWN, A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE THE
11:05:51 LARGER CALIPER.
11:05:54 I THINK WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS
11:06:00 I WORKED ON NOW BEFORE COMING BACK, YOU KNOW, YOU GET
11:06:02 TO THAT FOUR-INCH.
11:06:07 THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN A TWO AND FOUR-INCH IS A LOT
11:06:10 OF TIME AND MONEY AND NOT A LOT OF AVAILABILITY OF THE
11:06:12 FOUR-INCH, BECAUSE YOU ARE PURCHASING SOMETHING FOR
11:06:15 REPLACEMENT THAT HAD TO GROW LONGER.
11:06:19 SO I THINK THE CAC AND I CAN'T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THAT,
11:06:23 BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO, ONE, MAINTAIN HAVING THOSE
11:06:26 MORE MATURE TREES, BUT, TWO, GET BACK TO SOMETHING THAT
11:06:29 WAS NOT AS COST PROHIBITIVE.
11:06:32 SO THEY WERE ASKING FOR THE THREE INCH WHICH IS STILL
11:06:36 MORE THAN CODE, BUT A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT THEY HAVE
11:06:39 RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO KEEP WITH THE INTENT, BUT TO
11:06:41 ACHIEVE THOSE COST SAVINGS.
11:06:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:06:42 THANK YOU.
11:06:43 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:06:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:47 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS ITEM.
11:06:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE WE READ, MAY I --
11:06:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:06:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO NOTE RATE OF SUCCESS
11:06:57 AND PLANNING WHEN YOU PLANT A TWO-INCH TREE -- A THREE
11:06:58 INCH AND FOUR-INCH.
11:07:03 WHAT IS THE RATE OF LIFE THAT THAT PLANT IS GOING TO --
11:07:05 TREE IS GOING TO GROW TO FULL MATURITY.
11:07:08 IN OTHER WORDS, IS GOING TO LIVE TO BE A BIG TREE.
11:07:12 AND WHAT IS THE COST BETWEEN THE TWO, THREE AND
11:07:15 FOUR-INCH -- TO BUY.
11:07:17 >> I DON'T HAVE THE COST FIGURES FOR YOU TODAY.
11:07:21 I CAN BRING THEM TO YOU ON SECOND READING.
11:07:26 THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE TREE IS TYPICALLY THE SAME;
11:07:35 HOWEVER, OUR CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT PLANTINGS OCCUR FOR
11:07:39 SIX-MONTH PERIOD AND ALLOW ADDITIONAL WATERING DURING
11:07:42 THAT TIME TO ALLOW FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF THOSE NEWLY
11:07:42 PLANTED TREES.
11:07:46 IF THE TREE DOES NOT SURVIVE, THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES
11:07:50 HAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO REPLACE THAT TREE IN ORDER TO
11:07:54 MAINTAIN THEIR LANDSCAPE COMMITMENT.
11:07:57 SO -- BUT I CAN GET YOU THE NUMBERS IN RELATION TO THE
11:07:59 COST FROM TWO TO THREE TO FOUR.
11:08:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS FEELEY.
11:08:08 I HATE TO RIDE THIS HORSE FURTHER, BUT A LOT OF TIME
11:08:12 YOU HAVE THE TREE REPLACEMENT VALUE PLACE MONEY IN THE
11:08:14 REPLACEMENT OF TREE FUNDS.
11:08:17 AND NOW YOU CAN EVEN ASK IF A HOMEOWNER REQUIRES ASKING
11:08:19 THAT TREE BE PLANTED.
11:08:21 HAVE HE EVER MADE SOME KIND OF AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE
11:08:25 THAT THE TREE FUND BALANCES OUT WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE
11:08:25 THERE?
11:08:27 I KNOW WE ASKED FOR THIS IN THE PAST, AND CAN WE GET
11:08:31 SOME OF THESE TREES PLANTED WHERE SOME NEIGHBORS MAY
11:08:34 NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO DO SO AND IT IS PLANTED THERE
11:08:41 WITH THE MONEY THAT IS IN THE TREE FUND.
11:08:44 >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THE TREE TRUST SUPERFUND ALLOCATED
11:08:45 IN THAT WAY.
11:08:47 I WILL HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THAT.
11:08:51 I MEAN, HAVING JUST COMPLETED MY OWN HOME.
11:08:54 WE PLANTED ON-SITE AND WE OWED SOME ADDITIONAL INCHES.
11:08:58 WE PLANTED THEM IN THE ADJACENT RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT CODE
11:08:59 REQUIRES.
11:09:02 OUR NEIGHBOR PUT IN THE TRUST FUND FOR 19 TREES.
11:09:04 SO IT IS A DIFFERENT MECHANISM.
11:09:07 LET ME -- I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO THE
11:09:10 TRUST FUND AND GET YOU THAT INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T
11:09:14 BELIEVE IT IS UTILIZED IN A HARDSHIP MANNER IN ORDER
11:09:18 FOR ONE NEIGHBOR TO BE -- I KNOW --
11:09:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH YOU
11:09:23 UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE A RUNNING TOTAL OF HOW MANY
11:09:25 TREES WE HAVE.
11:09:28 WE DON'T HAVE THAT RUNNING TOTAL AND I APPRECIATE IT.
11:09:32 MAYBE GET THAT TO US BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:09:32 >> I CAN DO THAT.
11:09:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE
11:09:38 TO READ IT.
11:09:40 >> I WILL READ IT.
11:09:44 ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER 2021-8 CHAPTER 27 TO BE
11:09:46 READY FOR FIRST READING.
11:09:49 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATED TO THE
11:09:53 WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS MAKING
11:09:55 REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES
11:10:00 CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING 27-241
11:10:04 WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS.
11:10:09 REPEAL ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING
11:10:13 FOR SEVERABILITY AND A DATE.
11:10:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
11:10:18 GUDES.
11:10:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:10:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:10:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:10:25 >>CLERK: VIERA --
11:10:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:10:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:10:28 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:10:32 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN
11:10:35 VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:10:40 SECOND READING IS FEBRUARY 4, 2021 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:10:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:46 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY THAT THIS ONE WAS A LOT OF
11:10:49 WORK FROM STAFF ENGAGING THE PUBLIC AND SOMETHING THAT
11:10:53 LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES WANT.
11:10:55 THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR
11:10:55 PARTICIPATION.
11:10:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:02 WE HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EARNINGS
11:11:12 ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:11:14 >> I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A PRESENTATION NORMALLY
11:11:19 DONE IN SECOND HEARING.
11:11:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAW MR. VILA.
11:11:22 A BUILDING AT EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
11:11:26 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
11:11:29 MR. VILA, WHICH BUILDING IS THIS?
11:11:33 >>RON VILA: THIS WAS A BUILDING THAT WAS RELOCATED AS
11:11:35 PART OF THE WIDENING OF I-4.
11:11:40 IT WAS A JOINT EFFORT BY FDOT AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:11:44 AND IT WAS MOVED FROM 14TH AVENUE TO COLUMBUS DRIVE AS
11:11:49 PART OF THE DESIGN STYLES OVERALL MASTER PLAN CONCEPT
11:11:50 FOR YBOR CITY.
11:11:55 THEY HAVE RELOCATED I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 20 ARCHITECTS
11:11:56 TO THE BUILDING.
11:11:59 AND THEY ANNEXED THIS BUILDING HERE.
11:12:04 IT WAS IN A DETERIORATED STATE AND THEY DID A WONDERFUL
11:12:05 JOB.
11:12:08 DURING SECOND READING -- READING I WILL DO A BRIEF
11:12:10 PRESENTATION AT THE TIME.
11:12:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
11:12:14 QUESTION OR COMMENTS.
11:12:16 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:12:18 READ ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:12:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I-2021 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE FOR
11:12:30 READING CONSIDERATION HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR THE
11:12:34 RESTORATION, REMEMBER HABILITATION OF A CERTAIN
11:12:37 PROPERTY OWNED BY DESIGN STYLES ARCHITECTURE LOCATED AT
11:12:42 1715 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA ARE YBOR CITY
11:12:45 HISTORIC DISTRICT BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING
11:12:48 FOR NOTICE OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH
11:12:50 COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR
11:12:54 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING AN
11:12:56 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:13:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:13:02 >>CLERK: DINGFELDER.
11:13:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:13:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:13:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:13:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:13:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:13:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:13:15 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN
11:13:17 MEMBER VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:13:21 SECOND READING IS FEBRUARY 4, 2021 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:13:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:25 ITEM NUMBER 8 HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
11:13:30 ITEM NUMBER 9 TIES IN WITH ITEM NUMBER 88.
11:13:32 ITEM NUMBER 9.
11:13:35 I BELIEVE THERE IS -- BECAUSE IT TIES IN WITH 88.
11:13:40 WILL THERE BE A PRESENTATION ON THIS?
11:13:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE IS THE
11:13:51 COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, AN ITEM TIED IN WITH 88.
11:13:53 I BELIEVE THERE IS A POWERPOINT FOR 88.
11:13:56 IF YOU WISH TO HOLD NUMBER 9 UNTIL YOU HEAR NUMBER 88,
11:14:01 THAT -- YOU WILL ABLE TO HEAR THAT AND MOVE --
11:14:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE THAT WE HOLD NUMBER 9 TO 88.
11:14:06 >> SECOND.
11:14:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
11:14:11 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.
11:14:13 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:14:18 WE WILL MOST LIKELY TAKE IT AFTER LUNCH.
11:14:19 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
11:14:22 ITEMS 10 AND 11 ARE TIED TOGETHER.
11:14:24 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:14:25 ITEMS 10-15.
11:14:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO MOVE ITEMS 10-15.
11:14:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:14:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN.
11:14:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND SECT BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:14:35 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:14:36 OPPOSED?
11:14:36 ALL RIGHT.
11:14:44 ITEMS 16-22.
11:14:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.
11:14:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:14:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:14:55 ANY OPPOSED?
11:14:58 NEXT WORK PUBLIC WORKS, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:15:00 23-37.
11:15:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COMMENT ON ITEM 16.
11:15:05 LOOKS KIND OF EXCITING DOWN IN GADSDEN PARK WHICH IS
11:15:12 DOWN THERE BY MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE LOOKS LIKE THEY
11:15:14 ARE PUTTING ON WATER SKI SHOWS.
11:15:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABOUT TIME.
11:15:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: KIND OF NEAT.
11:15:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 37 WE HAD CONTINUED THAT.
11:15:24 MY MISTAKE THROUGH ITEM NUMBER 36 THAT WE ARE MOVING.
11:15:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE 23-36.
11:15:32 ITEM 37 CONTINUED.
11:15:35 A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SECOND BY
11:15:36 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:15:37 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:15:38 OPPOSED.
11:15:40 NEXT UP IS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:15:41 38-41.
11:15:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 38-41.
11:15:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:15:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
11:15:49 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:15:50 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:15:52 ANY OPPOSED.
11:15:55 CARLSON, BUILDING PRESERVATION, 43-62.
11:15:58 BUT I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
11:16:00 SOME COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 48.
11:16:02 IS IT 48, SIR?
11:16:10 >> YES, JUST BRIEFLY FOR ANYONE READING THE AGENDA.
11:16:12 THERE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
11:16:13 SOMETIMES.
11:16:15 THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT A LOT OF BIG PROJECTS THAT
11:16:18 TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND MAKE SURE WE GIVE CREDIT.
11:16:20 WE HEARD FOLKS THIS MORNING AND OTHER TIMES TALK ABOUT
11:16:23 HELPING THE HOUSELESS OR HOMELESS.
11:16:26 AND IT HAPPENS THAT CHIEF BENNETT HAS A LOT OF
11:16:28 EXPERIENCE IN THAT FROM PINELLAS COUNTY.
11:16:30 AND HE HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY BEHIND THE SCENES
11:16:34 AND A WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
11:16:40 THIS INCLUDING CAROLE POST AND ABBYE FEELEY.
11:16:41 AND.
11:16:43 THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS PUT THIS TOGETHER.
11:16:46 IT IS NOT THE FINAL SOLUTION, BUT THEY ARE WORKING
11:16:50 DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS BIG GAP OF 50,000 UNIT
11:16:57 SHORTAGE OF HOMES BUT FINDING TEMPORARY PLACES TO LIVE
11:17:01 TO TRANSITION AND NOT HAVE TO -- TO LIVE IN CONDITIONS
11:17:03 THAT ARE NOT REALLY LIVABLE.
11:17:06 YOU WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WORKING ON THAT.
11:17:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BEFORE YOU
11:17:11 MAKE YOUR MOTION.
11:17:13 NUMBER 46 TO BE CONTINUED TO MARCH 4.
11:17:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKE THAT TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
11:17:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:17:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION MO MOVED.
11:17:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:17:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:17:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:17:27 ANY OPPOSED.
11:17:28 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:17:29 THROUGH 45.
11:17:34 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 42-45 AND THEN 47-62.
11:17:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:17:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:17:39 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:17:40 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:17:41 AYE.
11:17:42 ANY OPPOSED?
11:17:45 NEXT UP IS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WHICH WILL BE
11:17:48 VICE-CHAIR COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:17:52 GUDES MOVE 63-67.
11:17:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
11:17:59 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:18:01 AYE.
11:18:02 ANY OPPOSED?
11:18:02 OKAY.
11:18:08 ITEM NUMBER 68 -- REVIEW HEARING MARCH 4 AT 10 A.M.
11:18:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:18:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:18:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:18:12 AYE.
11:18:18 ANY OPPOSED.
11:18:21 OKAY GO THAT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING.
11:18:25 ITEM 69 THROUGH 76.
11:18:28 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES .
11:18:30 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:18:38 ITEM NUMBER 69, SECOND READING.
11:18:39 ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THAT?
11:18:45 ANY PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY?
11:18:48 ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
11:18:49 ON 69?
11:18:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:18:53 >> SECOND.
11:18:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
11:18:56 MIRANDA --
11:18:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD JUST ASK THAT THE CLERK
11:19:02 CONFIRMS NOBODY IS REGISTERED TO VOTE ON THESE ITEMS.
11:19:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR ITEM NUMBER
11:19:05 69?
11:19:07 NO?
11:19:08 OH, OKAY.
11:19:15 WE HAVE SOMEBODY REGISTERED FOR 69.
11:19:17 71 WE HAVE MISS SANCHEZ.
11:19:22 >> NO ONE REGISTERED FOR ITEM 69.
11:19:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:19:25 ALL IN FAVOR.
11:19:26 OPPOSED.
11:19:30 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, READ ITEM NUMBER 69.
11:19:35 >>BILL CARLSON: SURE, FILE NUMBER E2020-8 CH 2,
11:19:38 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE
11:19:41 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA PERTAINING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
11:19:44 INCENTIVE AMENDING CHAPTER 2 ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY
11:19:50 OF TAMPA CODE BY ADDING ARTICLE X ENTITLED ECONOMIC
11:19:53 INCENTIVES DIVISION ONE GENERALLY SECTION 800
11:19:59 DEFINITION SECTION 2-801 SWORN AFFIDAVIT AND SECTION
11:20:04 2-802 OF CITY OF TAMPA ECONOMIC INSENSITIVE TO EXECUTE
11:20:07 A SWORN AFFIDAVIT CONFIRMING THE ACCURACY OF ANY
11:20:09 REQUIRED REPORTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RESERVING
11:20:16 SECTIONS 2-803 THROUGH 2-825 PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL
11:20:21 OF ALL OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR
11:20:24 SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:20:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS A SECOND.
11:20:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:20:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:20:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:20:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:20:35 >>CLERK: VIERA --
11:20:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:20:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:20:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:20:41 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN
11:20:46 VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:20:47 >> JUST TEN SECONDS.
11:20:52 THANKS TO CAROLE POST AND ROB ROSNER AND LEGAL
11:20:54 DEPARTMENT FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
11:20:58 THE PURPOSE IF WE GIVE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES THAT WE GIVE
11:21:01 FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE TO KEEP THEIR PROMISES.
11:21:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE OPENED ALL THE PUBLIC
11:21:04 HEARINGS.
11:21:06 ITEM IS NUMBER 70.
11:21:09 IF YOU WERE HEAR TO SPEAK ON ITEM 70, RAISE YOUR RIGHT
11:21:19 HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:21:23 >>CLERK: CHAIR, THERE ARE NO OTHER REGISTERED SPEAKERS
11:21:25 EXCEPT FOR ITEM 71.
11:21:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE SWEAR THE FOLKS IN?
11:21:41 YES, SIR.
11:21:44 >> FOR THE RECORD, I WAS -- I WAS SICK.
11:21:47 I HAD FOOD POISONING ON THE DAY YOU TALKED ABOUT THESE
11:21:53 AND SAY ITEMS 70-76, I READ THE DOCUMENTS AND REVIEWED
11:21:56 THE CASES AND FEEL CONFIDENT VOTING ON THEM.
11:21:57 THANK YOU.
11:21:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:00 ITEM NUMBER 70.
11:22:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
11:22:06 RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:22:10 REZ-20-63 THE ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND
11:22:12 ADOPTION.
11:22:16 6805 NORTH NAVIN AVENUE AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU WAS
11:22:21 REZONING FROM SH-RS TO SH-PE FOR RESIDENTIAL
11:22:25 SINGLE-FAMILY SINGLE DETACHED PD, CORRECTED SITE PLANS
11:22:29 WERE TURNED INTO THE DEPARTMENT AND WERE TURNED INTO
11:22:30 THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:22:33 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:22:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
11:22:36 WE DO NOT.
11:22:38 ALL RIGHT.
11:22:41 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:22:43 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:22:46 KEVIN REALTY, EAST JACKSON STREET.
11:22:47 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
11:22:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:22:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH ONE.
11:22:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 70.
11:23:03 605 NORTH NAVIN AVENUE.
11:23:05 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER
11:23:06 70.
11:23:07 ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK.
11:23:10 DO WE HAVE A KIOSK?
11:23:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:23:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:23:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:23:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, READ ITEM NUMBER 70.
11:23:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.
11:23:28 WITH REGARD TO FILE NUMBER REZ-20-21 MOVE THE FOLLOWING
11:23:30 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
11:23:35 GENERAL VICINITY 6805 NORTH NAVIN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
11:23:37 TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
11:23:44 ONE FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-RS SEMINOLE
11:23:45 HEIGHTS.
11:23:50 TO SH-PD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNING DEVELOPMENT
11:23:53 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
11:23:56 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:24:00 MAKING A NOTE THAT THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN AMENDED FOR
11:24:04 REVISED REVISIONS ALONG WITH THE BONUS SPECIAL I NEED
11:24:06 BY MR. MANASSE.
11:24:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:10 A MOTION FROM DINGFELDER AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
11:24:12 MIRANDA.
11:24:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:24:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:24:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:24:17 >>CLERK: VIERA --
11:24:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:24:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:24:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:24:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN
11:24:27 VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:24:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
11:24:30 NEXT UP ITEM NUMBER 71.
11:24:32 WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
11:24:38 THAT IS MR. MECHANIK HERE.
11:24:41 WE HAVE A REGISTERED SPEAKER.
11:24:43 IF YOU WILL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND I BELIEVE IT IS
11:24:47 MISS SANDY SANCHEZ THAT IS ON THE LINE.
11:24:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, AS A POINT OF ORDER.
11:24:54 I RECALL THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CLOSER VOTE.
11:24:57 AND YOU HAVE ONE COUNCILMEMBER WHO MADE THE MOTION WHO
11:25:05 IS NOT HERE.
11:25:08 I DON'T KNOW WHO --
11:25:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.
11:25:12 WE CAN HEAR YOUR CONVERSATION.
11:25:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO
11:25:34 DEFER THIS -- IF THE COUNCILMAN IS RETURNING.
11:25:37 >> MR. CHAIR AND MR. MECHANIK, I DO APOLOGIZE.
11:25:38 I DO APOLOGIZE.
11:25:42 MR. CHAIR, FOR THE RECORD, CAN I ASK THE CLERK TO
11:25:46 CONFIRM WHAT MY VOTE WAS ON THIS THE FIRST READING?
11:25:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:25:55 >>CLERK: FOR ITEM 70 --
11:25:57 >> ITEM NUMBER 71.
11:25:58 >>CLERK: SORRY.
11:26:02 ITEM NUMBER 71, GUDES AND MIRANDA VOTED NO AND
11:26:07 COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:26:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY, MR. CHAIR, I COULD SWEAR THAT I
11:26:11 VOTED NO ON THIS.
11:26:12 BUT LET'S PROCEED.
11:26:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKEY-DOKE.
11:26:15 MR. MECHANIK, YES, SIR.
11:26:19 >> YES, AGAIN, DAVID MECHANIK.
11:26:21 WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:26:25 AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ANY
11:26:28 PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT RECEIVE ON THE
11:26:28 APPLICATION.
11:26:31 THANK YOU.
11:26:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO
11:26:35 GO FORWARD.
11:26:39 WE ARE SHORT.
11:26:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE SHORT.
11:26:44 VIERA IS BACK.
11:26:45 >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:26:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
11:26:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE.
11:26:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZ-20-63 BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND
11:27:02 READING AND ADOPTION FOR THE PROPERTY AT 501 NORTH
11:27:11 HOWARD AVENUE, 2113 NORTH GRAY STREET AND 2114 AND 2118
11:27:16 WEST CARMEN STREET FROM RS-50 SINGLE FAMILY TO PD FOR
11:27:18 MEDICAL OFFICE AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
11:27:21 CORRECTED SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO OUR DEPARTMENT
11:27:24 AND WERE CERTIFIED AND DELIVERED TO THE CITY CLERK.
11:27:26 STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
11:27:27 HAVE.
11:27:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
11:27:29 TIME?
11:27:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I BELIEVE YOU DID?
11:27:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID.
11:27:38 A LITTLE CONFUSION, MR. MANASSE, MAYBE IF YOU PUT UP
11:27:42 THE REVISED -- THE SITE PLAN THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
11:27:46 A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY TO --
11:27:52 OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IS IN THE NEW PARKING AREA TO BE
11:27:56 ABLE TO GET -- TO GET TO THE STREET TO THE NORTH.
11:27:59 WHAT IS THE STREET TO THE NORTH?
11:28:00 ANYBODY?
11:28:02 HELP ME?
11:28:04 ANYWAY.
11:28:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARMEN STREET.
11:28:11 >>RYAN MANASSE: CARMEN.
11:28:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE ANYWAY, IF YOU CAN CLARIFY
11:28:14 THAT.
11:28:17 WOULD -- IS THE PARKING LOT SEALED OFF SO IT IS ONLY
11:28:23 ACCESSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND OUT FROM THE -- FROM
11:28:25 THE SOUTHERN -- THE SOUTHERN STREET.
11:28:27 AND THEN THERE WAS CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN
11:28:29 REGARD TO THE ALLEY.
11:28:31 IF THEY CAN ACCESS THE ALLEY.
11:28:36 THEN SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THERE WAS CONCERN THAT -- THAT,
11:28:39 YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC INSTEAD OF JUST COMING IN AND OUT
11:28:43 OF THE STREET AT THE BOTTOM THERE THAT THIS THEY WERE
11:28:45 COMING IN OUT OF THE ALLEY AND CREATE A DANGEROUS
11:28:48 SITUATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT
11:28:48 ALLEY.
11:28:52 SO IF YOU COULD CLARIFY BOTH OF THOSE, RYAN.
11:28:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
11:28:57 COUNCILMAN, FIRST PART -- I WILL ZOOM IN TO THE NORTH
11:28:58 ON CARMEN STREET.
11:29:06 YOU CAN SEE A PROPOSED SIDEWALK AND A 15-FOOT BUFFER,
11:29:07 NO VEHICULAR ACCESS.
11:29:10 I WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ALLEY TO GO INTO THE
11:29:13 NEXT QUESTION YOU ARE ASKING AND BETWEEN BOTH PARCELS
11:29:14 THROUGH THIS PD.
11:29:17 THE EXISTING BEING THE EXISTING SOUTH BUILDING HERE AND
11:29:19 THE EXISTING PARKING LOT.
11:29:22 THERE IS THE ALLEY AND THE ALLEY GOES NORTH TO CARMEN
11:29:23 STREET.
11:29:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT -- I AM NOT
11:29:27 TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH -- I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT NORTH
11:29:31 ALLEY, IS THERE AN EAST-WEST ALLEY?
11:29:34 >>RYAN MANASSE: THERE IS RIGHT HERE IF YOU CAN SEE
11:29:36 WHERE MY CURSOR IS.
11:29:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
11:29:40 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WAS JUST MAKE POINT THAT YOU ARE
11:29:43 AWARE THAT IT GOES NORTH HERE.
11:29:45 THE ALLEY CONNECTS AND GOES NORTH HERE.
11:29:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THEY CAN GO OUT -- THEY CAN
11:29:51 LEAVE THE PARKING LOT AND GO OUT THE NORTH ALLEY AND
11:29:53 GET UP TO CARMEN.
11:29:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: THROUGH THE ALLEY, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY,
11:29:57 CORRECT, SIR.
11:29:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT
11:30:02 CONCERNING TO ME, BUT MR. MECHANIK CAN ADDRESS THAT.
11:30:04 THANK YOU.
11:30:08 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
11:30:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
11:30:11 COMMENTS?
11:30:12 NO?
11:30:14 MR. MECHANIK.
11:30:18 >> DAVID MECHANIK.
11:30:20 MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:30:24 MR. DINGFELDER -- AND I HAVE RANDY COHEN HERE
11:30:27 VIRTUALLY, AND I WILL ASK HIM TO ADDRESS THAT REMARK,
11:30:31 BUT I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, WE ARE NOT EXPANDING THE
11:30:32 DOCTOR'S OFFICE.
11:30:35 THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
11:30:39 WHAT WE DEMONSTRATED AT THE FIRST READING IS THAT OVER
11:30:45 50% OF THE WORKDAYS IN -- IN 2019 AND THE FIRST TWO
11:30:52 MONTHS OF 2020, OVER 50% OF THE DAYS HAD OVERFLOW
11:30:54 PARKING, OKAY.
11:30:57 SO IF YOU ARE NOT ADDING TRAFFIC, ALL OF THAT OVERFLOW
11:31:00 PARKING CAN GO ANYWHERE IT WANTS.
11:31:03 AND THE WHOLE POINT OF EXPANDING THE PARKING LOT IS TO
11:31:08 PROVIDE ON-SITE PARKING AND NOT HAVE MOTORISTS DRIVING
11:31:13 UP AND DOWN EITHER CARMEN OR GRAY STREET LOOKING FOR
11:31:14 PARKING.
11:31:17 AT THIS POINT, I WILL JUST ASK MR. COHEN TO SPEAK TO
11:31:19 THAT.
11:31:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COHEN, WERE YOU SWORN IN, SIR?
11:31:26 >> OF THE ALLEY, IT IS A PUBLIC ALLEY.
11:31:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, PLEASE STOP FOR A SECOND.
11:31:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:31:37 ANYBODY ON THE CALL, MR. RAMIREZ --
11:31:41 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU TELL THE TRUTH,
11:31:42 THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
11:31:43 >> I DO.
11:31:44 >> I DO.
11:31:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. COHEN.
11:31:49 >> OKAY.
11:31:51 THE ALLEY IS A PUBLIC ALLEY.
11:31:55 WE HAVE DESIGNED THE PARKING LOT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN
11:32:02 TO MAKE IT EXCEEDINGLY UNFRIENDLY TO USE THE ALLEY FOR
11:32:03 PATIENT.
11:32:09 AND WE CAN NOT BLOCK THE ALLEY IF IT IS A PUBLIC ALLEY.
11:32:12 WE ARE NOT BLOCKING ANYONE USING THE ALLEY IN PARKING
11:32:15 AT THE TIMES I HAVE BEEN AT THE SITE, WHICH HAVE BEEN
11:32:17 A HANDFUL.
11:32:19 THIS IS THE BEST I CAN SAY.
11:32:23 THE PUBLIC ALLEYWAY AND NOT RESTRICT OR IMPEDE FLOW ON
11:32:29 THE ALLEY WAY FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO USE THE ALLEYWAY.
11:32:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
11:32:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:32:32 DINGFELDER.
11:32:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. COHEN, THE NORTH-SOUTH ALLEYWAY
11:32:40 OR EAST-WEST ALLEYWAY.
11:32:42 OR BOTH.
11:32:43 >> THEY ARE BOTH.
11:32:45 AND WE CANNOT RESTRICT IT.
11:32:48 WE HAVE DESIGNED OUR PARKING TO MAKE IT VERY UNFRIENDLY
11:32:53 TO USE THE ALLEY TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE PARKING LOT, BUT
11:32:56 WE CANNOT RESTRICT IT UNLESS THE CITY WERE TO CLOSE THE
11:32:59 ALLEY.
11:33:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE NORTH-SOUTH ALLEY, YOU OWN
11:33:03 BOTH SIDES OF THE ALLEY, CORRECT?
11:33:09 >> NO, WE DO NOT OWN EITHER -- THE NORTH ALLEY AND
11:33:10 DON'T OWN THE EAST AND WEST.
11:33:14 ON THE EAST-WEST ALLEY, WE OWN A PORTION ON THE SOUTH
11:33:16 AND A SMALL PORTION ON THE NORTH.
11:33:20 THERE IS A PORTION THAT WE DO NOT OWN OR ABUT.
11:33:23 THAT ALLEY JUST TO THE WEST OF THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT
11:33:27 EXPANSION.
11:33:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:33:33 >> AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE WE ARE NOT ADDING
11:33:34 TRAFFIC.
11:33:37 THIS IS TRAFFIC THIS IS CURRENTLY OVERFLOW THAT WE ARE
11:33:39 TRYING TO ADDRESS.
11:33:42 SO THAT TRAFFIC CAN GO ANYWHERE IT WANTS, INCLUDING
11:33:46 CARMEN UP AND DOWN IF IT CHOOSES TODAY.
11:33:50 SO WE ARE HOPEFULLY IMPROVING THE SITUATION
11:33:54 DRAMATICALLY.
11:33:58 >> I WILL ADD IF WE HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING, WE WON'T
11:34:00 HAVE PATIENTS CIRCULATING THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOOD
11:34:03 TRYING TO FIND PARKING WHICH IS WHAT IS GOING ON TODAY
11:34:05 AS WELL AS STAFF PARKING OFFSITE.
11:34:09 SO PROVIDING THIS ADDITIONAL PARKING SHOULD MAKE THINGS
11:34:12 MUCH BETTER AND MUCH LESS LIKELY FOR SOMEONE TO EVEN AT
11:34:17 LEAST ATTEMPT TO USE THE ALLEYWAY TO GAIN ACCESS TO
11:34:18 PARKING.
11:34:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:34:22 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:34:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MANISCALCO.
11:34:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:34:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:34:32 MR. MECHANIK AND MR. COHEN, WE ARE HERE TO SEE WHAT THE
11:34:35 SITE PLAN AND MAKE OUR DECISIONS BASED ON THE SITE
11:34:35 PLAN.
11:34:38 AND I AM NOT QUESTIONING THAT; HOWEVER, THERE WAS TALK
11:34:43 LAST TIME OF USING THIS AS AN OVERFLOW PARKING SPACE
11:34:48 AFTER THE BUSINESS HAD CLOSED.
11:34:52 NOW THE QUESTION NEEDS TO BE ASKED, IF THIS IS GOING TO
11:34:58 BE USED FOR OVERFLOW BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS DONE IN PRIOR
11:35:03 HISTORY TO BUSINESSES THAT OPENED UP AROUND THE AREA,
11:35:09 THE -- THE RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD
11:35:11 WEREN'T ASKED HOW THEY HE FELT ABOUT IT.
11:35:15 AND I AM NOW LOOKING AT THIS PARKING LOT, WHICH I KNOW
11:35:18 I SHOULDN'T; HOWEVER, THE QUESTION STILL ARISES.
11:35:23 DOES THIS BECOME A SURFACE PARKING LOT FOR OTHER
11:35:26 BUSINESSES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA?
11:35:30 AND IF SO, HOW COULD IT BE REGULATED IN SUCH A WAY THAT
11:35:38 THE RESIDENCE THAT'S SURROUND THIS PARKING LOT AREN'T
11:35:41 AFFECTED BY NOISE, LIGHTS AT NIGHT BY DIFFERENT CAUSES
11:35:46 BY THIS PARKING LOT BEING USED AND I USE QUOTATION
11:35:47 MARKS "AFTER HOURS."
11:35:53 I -- I -- IT IS TOUGH -- IT IS GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR ME
11:35:56 TO VOTE YES HE ON THIS WHEN THOSE QUESTIONS HAVEN'T
11:35:58 BEEN ANSWERED TO ME PROPERLY.
11:36:00 I KNOW HE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT THE SITE
11:36:01 PLAN.
11:36:03 I KNOW HE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT THE HOURS OF
11:36:07 OPERATION AND YOU HAVE A DOGGONE GOOD POINT BY SAYING
11:36:11 OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS ALSO
11:36:14 MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO BE USED FOR OVERFLOW PARKING
11:36:19 BY SUCH PLACES AS THE JCC ACROSS THE STREET AND A
11:36:21 COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
11:36:24 WHICH MEANS NOW THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE
11:36:27 CONCERNED OF PEDESTRIANS WALKING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS
11:36:31 ARMENIA AVENUE WHICH A HIGHLY TRAVELED STREET BOTH DAY
11:36:32 AND NIGHT.
11:36:36 SO I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT -- THAT I AM NOT
11:36:39 COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD THE PROPER
11:36:41 ANSWERS.
11:36:42 >> MAY I RESPOND?
11:36:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:36:45 >> DAVID MECHANIK.
11:36:51 THERE IS A LENGTHY DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL FIRST READING.
11:36:54 MY CLIENT AUTHORIZED ME TO TELL THAT YOU HE HAS NO
11:37:00 INTENTIONS OF LEASING AND INTENDING TO ALLOW THE
11:37:05 PARKING LOT OTHER THAN HIS PATIENTS AND EMPLOYEES.
11:37:08 THE COUNCIL DEBATED WHETHER OR NOT TO RESTRICT MY
11:37:12 CLIENT'S USE OF THE PARKING LOT TO PATIENTS AND
11:37:13 EMPLOYEES.
11:37:17 WE ALSO STATED FOR THE RECORD THAT WE AGREED WITH THAT.
11:37:20 AND WE WOULD AGREE TO A CONDITION TO THAT EFFECT;
11:37:25 HOWEVER, THE MOTION SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED THAT
11:37:32 PARTICULAR RESTRICTION.
11:37:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR IF I MAY, PLEASE, VERY HE
11:37:38 QUICKLY, AND THAT IS -- IS STILL GOING THROUGH MY HEAD,
11:37:38 MR. MECHANIK.
11:37:42 AND I REALIZE UNLESS YOU PUT UP SOME SORT OF FENCE, YOU
11:37:42 CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
11:37:44 THE BUSINESS OWNER CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
11:37:47 AND MORE THAN LIKELY, THERE IS GOING TO BE PEOPLE
11:37:51 PARKING THERE WHICH IS NOT A FAULT OF THE BUSINESS
11:37:52 OWNER AND PROPERTY OWNER.
11:37:54 HOW CAN WE CONTROL THAT?
11:37:57 >> MY CLIENT CAN CONTROL IF THERE ARE TRESPASSERS ON
11:38:01 THE PROPERTY, THEY CAN HAVE THOSE CARS TOWED AWAY.
11:38:05 AND IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE HIS INTENTION TO DO THAT.
11:38:08 BECAUSE HE WANTS THE PARKING FOR HIS OWN OFFICE AND HIS
11:38:09 OWN PATIENTS.
11:38:12 HE DOESN'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE USING.
11:38:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, I HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENCES
11:38:18 AROUND THE AREA AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, AND THIS IS
11:38:23 A MAJOR CONCERN OF THEIRS.
11:38:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM SORRY, IF I COULD
11:38:30 JUST FOR THE RECORD INTERRUPT BEFORE MR. MECHANIK HAS
11:38:33 AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE HIS DISCUSSION.
11:38:37 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
11:38:39 COUNCIL, I WANT TO -- TWO-FOLD.
11:38:42 NUMBER ONE, REMIND YOU AND STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT
11:38:45 THIS IS A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
11:38:48 AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET NEW COMMUNICATIONS
11:38:53 AND NEW EVIDENCE TO BE HEARD AT THE MEETING.
11:38:56 AND MR. MECHANIK WILL CERTAINLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
11:39:01 ADDRESS THOSE AND REBUT THOSE IF THAT IS HIS CHOICE.
11:39:03 BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, I WANT TO JUST BE
11:39:04 CLEAR OF TWO THINGS.
11:39:09 NUMBER ONE IS THAT WRITTEN MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN
11:39:12 SUBMITTED AND RECEIVED HAVE BOTH BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO
11:39:16 CITY COUNCIL AND HAVE BEEN UPLOADED TO SIRE AND
11:39:19 AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION PRIOR TO THIS HEARING.
11:39:21 THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
11:39:24 FOR THE FIRST PURPOSE, I WOULD ASK THAT THAT -- THOSE
11:39:27 COMMENTS AND THE RECORD BE RECEIVED AND FILED, THOSE
11:39:30 COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
11:39:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:39:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
11:39:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION, ALL IN FAVOR.
11:39:39 AYE.
11:39:40 OPPOSED.
11:39:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THE CLARITY OF THE RECORD WITH
11:39:46 REGARDS TO EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, I WILL ASK COUNCIL
11:39:49 TO STATE ON THE RECORD HAVE THERE BEEN ANY EX-PARTE
11:39:53 COMMUNICATION OTHER THAN THE WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
11:39:56 THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THIS CASE AND IF THAT IS THE
11:40:00 CASE TO PLEASE DESIGNATE WITH WHOM SOMETHING WAS
11:40:01 DISCUSSED AND WHAT WAS THE SUBJECT OF THAT
11:40:03 COMMUNICATION.
11:40:06 I ASK COUNCIL NOW, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY EX-PARTE
11:40:09 COMMUNICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE DISCLOSED?
11:40:11 I SEE NONE FOR THE RECORD, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:40:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:40:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:40:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:40:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AT THE FIRST HEARING, THE REASON IT
11:40:25 WAS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PLANS WITH MR. MANASSE IS
11:40:28 BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT -- WE HAD NO AUTHORITY TO CONTROL
11:40:29 THAT SITUATION.
11:40:32 THAT IS WHY IT WAS NOT ENTERED INTO THE ORIGINAL PLAN
11:40:36 WHEN THAT WAS -- WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, AM I
11:40:39 CORRECT, MR. MANASSE?
11:40:42 >> ACTUALLY -- CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY
11:40:45 ATTORNEY, IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT.
11:40:47 THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT FIRST READING BACK IN
11:40:50 DECEMBER WITH REGARD TO CONDITIONS THAT WOULD ATTACH TO
11:40:54 HOW THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BE OPERATED AS OPPOSED TO
11:40:56 HOW THE LAND WOULD BE DEVELOPED.
11:41:00 AND THE CHALLENGE PRESENTED WITH THE CONDITIONS
11:41:03 PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT WAS -- IT IS THEIR
11:41:04 ENFORCIBILITY.
11:41:12 HOW WOULD THE CITY ENFORCE A PARK ISSUE AT NIGHT WHEN
11:41:14 CODE ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T WORK IF THE EVENINGS.
11:41:17 WHO WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD CALL AND RECOGNIZE THAT ANY
11:41:20 CONDITIONS IMPOSED WITH THIS REZONING RUN WITH THE
11:41:20 LAND.
11:41:23 THEY WOULD APPLY REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF
11:41:25 ESTABLISHMENT OPERATED HERE.
11:41:28 AND WE, AFTER FIRST READING, MET WITH ABBYE FEELEY AND
11:41:33 RYAN MANASSE TO DISCUSS THIS SITUATION, ESPECIALLY AS
11:41:37 -- AS IT COULD APPLY TO OTHER SIMILAR SITUATION NOTICE
11:41:40 FUTURE AND THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WHEN IMPOSING
11:41:44 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITH THE REZONING, THOSE
11:41:46 CONDITIONS NEED TO FOCUS ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:41:49 REGULATIONS, AND NOT THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS.
11:41:53 AND IF COUNCIL DOES NOT TYPICALLY CONTROL OR REGULATE
11:41:56 THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR OTHER SIMILAR
11:41:58 ESTABLISHMENTS, WE WOULD CAUTION AGAINST INCLUDING
11:42:03 THOSE CONDITIONS IN THE REZONING APPROVAL PRIMARILY
11:42:06 BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGE THE CITY WOULD HAVE IN
11:42:07 ENFORCING IT.
11:42:11 AND BY IMPOSING THOSE CONDITIONS, CITY COUNCIL IS
11:42:14 CREATING AN EXPECTATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE
11:42:18 IS AN ENFORCEMENT, AN EASY ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM WHEN
11:42:19 IN FACT THERE WOULD NOT BE.
11:42:23 THAT IS THE REASON, I BELIEVE, OR THAT I RECALL, THAT
11:42:27 THE CONDITION OFFERED UP BY THE APPLICANT WAS NOT
11:42:31 INCLUDED IN COUNCIL'S MOTION IN DECEMBER.
11:42:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS WELLS.
11:42:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:38 ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:42:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MECHANIK, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO
11:42:44 ADDRESS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:42:47 >> NOT AT THIS TIME.
11:42:48 I WILL JUST RESPOND TO QUESTIONS.
11:42:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THREE PEOPLE LINED UP THAT ARE
11:42:52 SWORN IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:42:54 CARLOS RAMIREZ, GO AHEAD.
11:42:56 YOU ARE FIRST, SIR.
11:42:59 >> FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FIVE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO
11:43:02 HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR TIME SO I COULD CONTINUE TALKING SO
11:43:04 I SHOULD HAVE A TOTAL OF EIGHT MINUTES, AND I HAVE THAT
11:43:09 DOCUMENTATION IF IT IS NEEDED.
11:43:12 >> MR. SHELBY, ALLOW SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS IN A VIRTUAL
11:43:13 FORMAT.
11:43:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS IN THE PURPOSES
11:43:19 OF WHAT WOULD BE A PHYSICAL SPEAKER WAIVER FORM HAVING
11:43:23 PEOPLE VIRTUALLY HAS BEEN SUSPENDED PER COUNCIL RULES
11:43:25 AND RESOLUTION DURING THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.
11:43:28 SO BASICALLY RULE 6B APPLIES.
11:43:31 IF COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE SOMEBODY DO THAT VIRTUALLY
11:43:34 BEING THEY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO OTHERWISE SPEAK IF
11:43:37 THEY CAME DOWN, COULD YOU GIVE ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE
11:43:43 FOR EACH SPEAKER THAT WAIVES MAYBE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
11:43:46 THE RECORD MR. RAMIREZ CAN STATE THE NAMES OF THOSE
11:43:49 PEOPLE WOULD COUNCIL WOULD KNOW AND WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
11:43:52 WAIVE THEMSELVES MULTIPLE TIME AND COUNCIL COULD HAVE
11:43:55 THAT LEVEL OF COMFORT AND COUNCIL CAN JUST SEE WHAT IT
11:43:58 REASONABLY NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE PETITIONER
11:44:01 HAVE DUE PROCESS AND ANOTHER PETITION -- OF THE
11:44:04 PARTICIPANT TO HAVE DUE PROCESS AND THEN MAKE A
11:44:05 DETERMINATION.
11:44:08 I CAN READ THE ACTUAL RULE BUT ULTIMATELY COUNCIL'S
11:44:10 DECISION OF HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TIME TO GRANT, AND MIND
11:44:14 YOU, THAT IF COUNCIL DOES GRANT ADDITIONAL TIME IN
11:44:17 ORDER TO -- TO AFFORD THE PETITIONER DUE PROCESS, THE
11:44:21 PETITIONER MAY THEN ALSO REQUEST ADDITIONAL TIME.
11:44:24 SO YOU HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT AS WELL.
11:44:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WIDE
11:44:30 THEIR TIME FOR YOU, MR. RAMIREZ.
11:44:35 >> ERIN ANDERSON, JENNIFER THOMPSON, SARAH GARCIA AND
11:44:38 JONATHAN HENDRICKS.
11:44:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:44:42 >> THE E-MAILS WERE ALL SENT TO MR. SHELBY.
11:44:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTION OF ALLOWING THIS
11:44:47 ADDITIONAL TIME, COUNCIL?
11:44:51 MR. MECHANIK, ANY OBJECTION?
11:44:52 ANY OBJECTION.
11:44:57 GO AHEAD MR. RAMIREZ AND YOU HAVE YOUR EIGHT MINUTES.
11:44:57 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
11:44:59 I WILL SHOW MY SCREEN.
11:45:01 LET ME KNOW IF YOU SEE IT.
11:45:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD AND I SEE THE NAMES OF
11:45:04 THE PEOPLE.
11:45:04 THANK YOU.
11:45:04 >>CARLOS RAMIREZ: CARLOS RAMIREZ, 2103 WEST CARMEN
11:45:04 STREET. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE REPRESENTATIVE OF
11:45:05 THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION, AND I AM THE
11:45:07 LIAISON FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH.
11:45:09 I AM ALSO NORTH HYDE PARK ALLIANCE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE
11:45:12 WEST TAMPA CRA, CAC, AND I CHAIR A SUBCOMMITTEE.
11:45:18 I AM ALSO A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, AND HOLD A
11:45:20 PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ENGINEERING CERTIFICATE.
11:45:27 THE PTOE IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL LICENSING AVAILABLE IN
11:45:31 TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
11:45:32 CURRENTLY THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY ONLY 3,000 LICENSED
11:45:35 PTOEs IN THE U.S. AND CANADA.
11:45:38 SO I SPENT THE LAST TWO DECADES PRACTICING TRANSPORTATION
11:45:41 ENGINEERING.
11:45:48 I PASS THIS PARKING LOT EVERY DAY. WE USUALLY ONLY SEE
11:45:50 CARS PARKED ON THE STREET THAT BELONG TO THE LAW FIRM
11:45:54 ACROSS THE STREET OR FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE JCC.
11:45:57 WE ARE CONCERNED OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE
11:45:59 EXISTING PARKING LOT ON THE THREE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
11:46:01 ONE THEM BEING A DOUBLE LOT.
11:46:05 SO THAT'S A POTENTIAL FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT COULD
11:46:08 BE PUT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
11:46:14 HERE IS THE LATEST SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON
11:46:17 DECEMBER 21st.
11:46:19 JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER, I ADDED SOME SHADING SO
11:46:23 YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING ALONG WITH THE PARKING LOT AND
11:46:25 TWO EXISTING HOUSES TORN DOWN FOR THE PARKING LOT.
11:46:32 ON THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DO HAVE ALLEY ALL THE
11:46:36 WAY TO CARMEN NORTH AND GOES ALL THE WAY TO ALBANY TO THE
11:46:39 EAST.
11:46:42 I CAN GO THROUGH THE ALLEY WITH NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER.
11:46:46 CIRCLED IN RED ARE THE TWO EXISTING [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]
11:46:57 IF EVERYONE JUST USES THOSE TWO EXITS, 29 VEHICLES --
11:47:08 [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]
11:47:11 [NO ENCODER]
11:56:37 [NO ENCODER]
12:04:20 >>DAVID MECHANIK: DAVID MECHANIK AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
12:04:21 GIVEN THE ADDITIONAL TIME THAT COUNCIL GRANTED, I WOULD,
12:04:24 IF I COULD, REQUEST 12 MINUTES TO RESPOND.
12:04:32 >> IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?
12:04:36 CUTTING INTO OUR LUNCH TIME.
12:04:39 >>DAVID MECHANIK: OKAY.
12:04:39 I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
12:04:40 I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT IN LESS TIME.
12:04:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:04:43 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I AM GOING TO ASK RANDY COEN TO ADDRESS
12:04:46 MOST OF THE COMMENTS THAT RELATE TO BOTH THE PARKING
12:04:51 DEMAND QUESTION AND THE QUESTION OF COMPATIBILITY OF THE
12:04:55 USE, BOTH OF WHICH HE ADDRESSED EXTENSIVELY AT THE FIRST
12:05:00 READING.
12:05:01 I WOULD JUST POINT OUT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER MR. RAMIREZ
12:05:08 IS A PE OR NOT, HE MAY BE QUALIFIED, BUT HIS TESTIMONY IS
12:05:12 ANECDOTAL, THAT IS HE OBSERVED ON ONE PARTICULAR DAY OR
12:05:17 TEN PARTICULAR DAYS BUT HE DIDN'T DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE
12:05:22 USAGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR, AND MR. COEN DID.
12:05:27 HE LOOKED AT THE PATIENT ATTENDANCE FOR EVERY BUSINESS
12:05:33 DAY IN 2019, AND TWO MONTHS IN 2020 BEFORE COVID,
12:05:41 OBVIOUSLY.
12:05:42 THE NUMBERS WOULD BE SKEWED AFTER THE COVID HIT AND
12:05:47 AFFECTED THE PARKING DEMAND AND DOCTORS' OFFICE DEMAND.
12:05:53 SO WITH THAT I WILL JUST ASK MR. COEN TO RESPOND TO THE
12:05:57 OTHER COMMENTS OF THE RESIDENTS.
12:06:01 AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST OFFER A CONCLUDING REMARK AFTER
12:06:04 HE'S FINISHED.
12:06:04 >> RANDY COEN: THANK YOU.
12:06:11 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
12:06:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.
12:06:25 GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:06:26 >> FIRST, LET'S DISPEL THE ISSUE OF THE PARKING LOT IS
12:06:30 NEVER FULL.
12:06:31 THIS IS A PICTURE TAKEN MIDMORNING ON DECEMBER THE
12:06:34 10th WHICH WAS THE DAY OF THE FIRST HEARING.
12:06:36 PARKING LOT IS VIRTUALLY FULL, THE SPACES BESIDE THE
12:06:42 OFFICE BUILDING ARE FULL, THE NORTH DRIVE AISLE IS FULL,
12:06:45 THE CENTER DRIVEWAY AISLE HAS TWO SPACES AVAILABLE.
12:06:49 THE ISLE CLOSES TO GRAY STREET HAS ONE SPACE AVAILABLE.
12:06:53 SO THREE SPACES ALL IS AVAILABLE.
12:06:56 THE PARKING LOT IS BASICALLY FULL.
12:06:58 PARKING ON THE STREET, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE EXAMPLE IN
12:07:01 THE LOWER RATE, THIS IS ACTUALLY A PATIENT PARKING IN THE
12:07:06 RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE GENTLEMAN GETTING OUT OF THE REAR OF
12:07:08 THE CAR IS ELDERLY, WHICH A NUMBER OF THESE PATIENTS ARE,
12:07:12 AND THE NUMBER OF THESE PATIENTS HAVE SIGNIFICANT EYE
12:07:15 ISSUES.
12:07:16 AS A RESULT, IT'S AN UNSAFE SITUATION FOR EMPLOYEES TO BE
12:07:20 PARKING ON THE ROADWAY, IT'S AN UNSAFE SITUATION FOR
12:07:23 PATIENTS TO BE PARKING ON THE ROADWAY.
12:07:26 STAFF GENERALLY PARKS ON WESTLAND, NOT ON GRAY STREET,
12:07:30 BECAUSE OF THE MULTI-USE BUILDING THAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF
12:07:33 THE SIDE OVER HERE, AND THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY THEIR CARS
12:07:36 PARKING THERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PERHAPS A FEW OF OUR
12:07:39 STAFF EMPLOYEES PARKING THERE.
12:07:42 THIS PARTICULAR ENTITY IS ALSO COMPLAINED SEVERAL TYPES
12:07:46 TO THE EYE CLINIC ABOUT PARKING ON THE STREET, ET CETERA.
12:07:50 MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.
12:07:53 BACK A SLIDE, THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE THE PARKING IS
12:07:56 GENERALLY ALONG WESTLAND AND GENERALLY ALONG THIS PART OF
12:07:59 GRAY ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT'S USED BY STAFF.
12:08:03 LET'S TALK ABOUT STAFF FOR A MOMENT.
12:08:06 I'LL GO BACK TO THIS.
12:08:08 STAFF.
12:08:08 FOR VARIOUS THINGS, VARIOUS NUMBERS OF DOCTORS AND STAFF
12:08:12 AT THIS FACILITY.
12:08:13 THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN DOCTORS AT THIS FACILITY AND
12:08:19 A MAXIMUM OF TEN STAFF.
12:08:20 THAT'S 17 PEOPLE.
12:08:21 THAT'S BASICALLY HALF OF THE PARKING LOT ON ANY DAY IF
12:08:24 THEY WERE TO PARK IN THE PARKING LOT.
12:08:26 MOVING TO THAT FOR A MOMENT, YOU WILL SEE ON THE SCREEN
12:08:29 THAT'S UP, I HAVE THREE COLUMNS, OVER 200 PERCENT
12:08:32 PARKING, OVER 250 -- OVER 286% PARKING.
12:08:38 THAT'S BASED UPON THE FACT THAT WE REVIEWED PATIENT
12:08:41 SCHEDULING AND STAFF SCHEDULING FOR EVERY WORK DAY IN
12:08:44 2019 AND THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF 2020.
12:08:48 AT THE POINT WHERE YOU SEE THE COLUMN WITH 20%, 200
12:08:52 PERCENT, THAT IS WHEN STAFF IS REQUIRED TO PARK OFF-SITE.
12:08:57 IF STAFF WERE TO PARK ON-SITE, PARKING LOT WOULD BE FULL
12:09:01 AT TIMES OF THE DAY EVERY ONE OF THOSE DAYS WHICH IS 95
12:09:05 WORK DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR.
12:09:07 THE LOT ACTUALLY APPEARS TO BE HALF TO PERHAPS TWO-THIRDS
12:09:10 FULL, MAYBE THREE QUARTERS ON THESE PARTICULAR 95 DAYS
12:09:15 BECAUSE ALL OF THE STAFF IS PARKING OFF-SITE.
12:09:17 WHEN WE GET TO 250% MARK, OF COURSE, STAFF IS PARKING
12:09:22 OFF-SITE.
12:09:23 WE HAVE BASICALLY 75 TO 100% OF THE PARKING LOT FULL AT
12:09:28 THE PEAK TIMES OF THE DAY. IF STAFF WERE TO BE THERE, IT
12:09:32 WOULD BE EVERY DAY.
12:09:34 288%, THAT IS WHEN EVEN WITH STAFF PARKING OFF-SITE, WE
12:09:39 HAVE PARKING IN EXAMINES ON A PEAK DEMAND FOR THE PARKING
12:09:44 AVAILABLE ON THE SITE.
12:09:45 SO TOGETHER, THIS IS 135 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR THAT WORK
12:09:50 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 50%, BUT IF
12:09:54 STAFF WERE PARKING, THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE OVERFULL.
12:10:00 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PARTICULAR ISSUE OF THE JCC.
12:10:06 IT IS NOT OUR DESIRE TO PARK JCC PARKING IN THESE
12:10:10 PARTICULAR LOTS.
12:10:12 AS I UNDERSTAND THE JCC IS CURRENTLY BUILDING A PARKING
12:10:16 STRUCTURE TO HANDLE THEIR PARKING, WHICH IS A PROBLEM FOR
12:10:19 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND A PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
12:10:22 HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL ADD TO
12:10:27 OPPORTUNITIES FOR JCC TO PARK OFF-SITE.
12:10:32 TALK JUST A MOMENT ABOUT MR. RAMIREZ AND HIS QUEUING
12:10:38 ANALYSIS.
12:10:38 YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WAS A VERY CAREFULLY WORDED
12:10:41 STATEMENT BY HIM.
12:10:43 HIS ASSUMPTION WAS THE NORTH PARKING LOT WOULD BE TOTALLY
12:10:45 FULL, AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE CARS WOULD LEAVE AT EXACTLY
12:10:48 THE SAME MOMENT TO ATTEMPT TO CREATE A 17-VEHICLE QUEUE.
12:10:52 THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
12:10:53 THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.
12:10:55 THAT CANNOT HAPPEN.
12:10:56 AND IT'S BASED ON FAULTY ASSUMPTIONS AND FRANKLY FAULTY
12:11:01 ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE THAT 17 CARS WOULD BE IN THE QUEUE.
12:11:05 FINALLY, IF I COULD SUGGEST SOMETHING PERHAPS, IF THERE
12:11:09 IS CONCERN WITH THE NORTH PARKING LOT,
12:11:12 WHILE WE IN THE FIRST HEARING SUGGESTED AND RECOMMENDED
12:11:16 THAT NOT ONLY WOULD WE ACCEPT THE CONDITION OF NO PARKING
12:11:20 AFTER HOURS, WE ALSO SUGGESTED AND ACCEPTED A CONDITION
12:11:24 THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE POSTED FOR TOWING SO IN FACT
12:11:28 THE TOWING COMPANY COULD REMOVE ANYONE THERE AFTER HOURS.
12:11:33 THOSE WERE ITEMS DISCUSSED AT THE FIRST HEARING.
12:11:35 WHAT I HEAR TODAY AND LISTENED TO IS THAT THE NORTH
12:11:38 PARKING LOT IS THE LARGER AREA OF CONCERN.
12:11:42 THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO THE NORTH PARKING LOT, AND
12:11:45 THAT IS SIMPLY TO GATE THE SOLE ACCESS TO THAT PARKING
12:11:50 LOT WHEN BUSINESS IS CONCLUDED BY THE DAY BY THE
12:11:53 OPTOMETRIST AND THE EYE CLINIC STAFF ITSELF.
12:11:57 EASY TO DO.
12:11:58 EASY FOR A CODE INSPECTOR TO COME OUT AT ANY TIME AND SEE
12:12:02 WHETHER THAT GATE IS LOCKED OR NOT.
12:12:06 I BELIEVE WOULD BE WILLING TO OFFER THAT AS WELL.
12:12:09 WE CANNOT DO THAT ON THE EXISTING SOUTH PARKING LOT
12:12:11 BECAUSE OF ITS CONFIGURATION, AND HOW IT IS ACTUALLY ALSO
12:12:17 ACCESSED BY THE ALLEY.
12:13:55 IT EXISTS ALL OVER TAMPA AND ARE PERMITTED BUT I WOULD
12:13:58 LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THIS WAS A
12:14:00 CONSISTENT PATTERN.
12:14:01 ON THIS PARTICULAR AERIAL, BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH,
12:14:07 HOWARD, TO WESTLAND, WHICH IS THE BLOCK WE ARE TALKING
12:14:10 ABOUT, FIRST BLOCK, COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, NOW UNDER
12:14:13 CONSTRUCTION, EXCUSE ME, FIRST LOT, COMMERCIAL PARKING
12:14:19 LOT FOR YEARS IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH A FACILITY
12:14:22 AND A MASTIFF PARKING LOT.
12:14:24 THIS IS KEMKER LANDSCAPE, AND SERVICES COMPANY PARKING
12:14:29 OVER HERE.
12:14:30 THIS IS THE WILLIAMS FUNERAL HOME.
12:14:33 THEY ACTUALLY MAINTAIN A PARKING LOT HERE AND HERE ON A
12:14:35 GRASS LOT.
12:14:36 THIS IS THE MULTI-USE OFFICE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE
12:14:41 OF GLADE THAT HAS THIS PARKING LOT, ALSO UTILIZES A
12:14:44 PARKING LOT APPROVED -- IMPROVED IN THIS AREA HERE AS
12:14:48 LONG AS PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GRAY.
12:14:50 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE, RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE OTHER
12:14:52 PARKING LOTS AND TRYING TO AVOID PARKING ON WEST LAND,
12:14:56 THE NORTH SIDE OF GRAY.
12:14:58 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
12:15:00 I BELIEVE I HIT ALL OF THE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT WERE
12:15:05 BROUGHT UP BY THE OBJECTORS.
12:15:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:15:07 MR. MECHANIK?
12:15:12 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONCLUDE OUR
12:15:13 PRESENTATION BY SAYING, WE WOULD CERTAINLY OFFER TO PUT
12:15:17 THE GATE UP IF THAT MADE A DIFFERENCE TO COUNCIL.
12:15:21 AGAIN, I THINK MS. WELLS ADVISED YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT
12:15:26 SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER THE OPERATIONAL ASPECTS OF A
12:15:30 BUSINESS, SO, THEREFORE, OUR COMMITMENT, OR STATEMENT,
12:15:35 THAT WE WILL NOT RENT TO JCC OR ALLOW JCC TO PARK, CAN'T
12:15:41 BE CONSIDERED BY YOU, BUT LIKEWISE, THE NEIGHBORS'
12:15:46 COMMENTS THAT THEY ASSUME WE WILL BE ALLOWING JCC TO PARK
12:15:51 THERE IS EQUALLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR COUNCIL'S
12:15:55 CONSIDERATION.
12:15:57 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO END BY SAYING THAT THERE'S BEEN NO
12:16:01 NEW COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO CRICKET THE
12:16:08 EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE FIRST READING, AND THE
12:16:12 BASES ON WHICH A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL SUPPORTED THIS
12:16:19 APPLICATION ON FIRST READING.
12:16:21 WITH THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:16:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS A
12:16:26 QUESTION.
12:16:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MR. CITRO FIRST BUT I DO HAVE A
12:16:30 QUESTION.
12:16:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:16:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:16:34 THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE LEAVING
12:16:38 ALL AT ONE TIME OR ONE BY ONE, THAT VEHICLES WOULD BE
12:16:41 GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:16:44 I DO NOT LIKE TO REDESIGN ANYTHING FROM THE DAIS.
12:16:50 HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED A PORK CHOP AT THE EXITS
12:16:57 BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH WHERE IT FORCES CARS TO GO FROM ONE
12:17:01 DIRECTION TO THE OTHER.
12:17:02 WOULD YOU CONSIDER PUTTING THOSE IN SO THAT THE VEHICLES
12:17:05 ARE FORCED TO GO TO ARMENIA WHENEVER THEY LEAVE THE
12:17:08 PARKING LOTS?
12:17:10 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I WOULD ASK MR. COEN TO SPEAK TO THAT.
12:17:13 >> RANDY COEN: IT WOULD REQUIRE PUBLIC WORKS APPROVAL
12:17:21 AND SOLID WASTE APPROVAL.
12:17:23 CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
12:17:25 HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE TALKING OF A PORK CHOP AT THE END OF
12:17:29 THE NORTHERN ALLEYWAY ONTO CARMEN, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM
12:17:33 WITH THAT BUT IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT AND
12:17:36 APPROVAL.
12:17:37 WE COULD NOT GUARANTEE IT.
12:17:39 WE COULD CERTAINLY REQUEST THAT IF DESIRED AND OF COURSE
12:17:44 SOLID WASTE WOULD ALSO HAVE A POINT IN THAT PARTICULAR
12:17:47 ITEM WHETHER THEY WOULD ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
12:17:50 PORK CHOP AND OUR DRIVEWAY ON GRAY STREET AGAIN, WE COULD
12:17:54 CONSTRUCT THAT.
12:17:55 IT WOULD REQUIRE PUBLIC WORKS APPROVAL.
12:17:58 THAT ONE HAS I THINK A BETTER LIKELIHOOD OF BEING
12:18:01 APPROVED.
12:18:01 HOWEVER, OUR SOLID WASTE IS SERVICED THROUGH THAT
12:18:04 DRIVEWAY, SO AGAIN IT WOULD BECOME THE PER VIEW OF SOLID
12:18:10 WASTE AS TO WHETHER THEY WOULD ACCEPT THE PORK CHOP OR
12:18:13 NOT.
12:18:14 CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO IT, MR. CITRO.
12:18:16 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YES, WE WOULD DO IT, BUT YOU
12:18:18 HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S A DECISION THAT'S LARGELY OUT OF
12:18:22 OUR CONTROL.
12:18:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
12:18:25 MR. MANASSE, HOW HARD WOULD IT BE FOR THE PETITIONER TO
12:18:29 CONCEIVABLY PUT IN THESE PORK CHOPS?
12:18:35 >>RYAN MANASSE: AS RANDY STATED IT'S GOING TO TAKE OTHER
12:18:37 DEPARTMENTS TO DO THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY
12:18:41 THE PURVIEW OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
12:18:43 AS FAR AS THE REZONING, IF YOU ARE ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL
12:18:46 ITEMS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY,
12:18:51 AGAIN, I DON'T SEE HOW -- CATE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME
12:18:57 OUT WITH THAT.
12:18:58 AS FAR AS TIMELINE IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE ANY
12:19:00 MODIFICATIONS TO THIS, THEN WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS
12:19:03 READING AND BE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENTS LIKE SOLID
12:19:08 WASTE AND TRANSPORTATION AND SUCH.
12:19:09 BUT I BELIEVE IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW OF THIS
12:19:13 REZONING ANYTHING OFF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
12:19:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.
12:19:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:19:21 I'M NOT SURE WHO TO ASK THIS QUESTION OF.
12:19:23 I'LL START WITH RYAN.
12:19:25 AND I THINK I MIGHT HAVE BUMPED ON THIS QUESTION AT THE
12:19:27 FIRST HEARING.
12:19:29 WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OFFICE OF THE MEDICAL
12:19:33 OFFICE, RYAN?
12:19:38 GO AHEAD.
12:19:50 THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE.
12:19:52 DO WE KNOW?
12:20:04 AND THE REASON I'M ASKING, I'M CURIOUS OF WHAT THE
12:20:07 REQUIRED NUMBER OF SPACES ARE FOR THE MEDICAL USE AS
12:20:12 COMPARED TO WHAT THE NUMBER OF SPACES ARE THAT THEY HAVE
12:20:15 RIGHT NOW AS COMPARED TO WHAT THE NUMBER OF SPACES ARE
12:20:18 THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
12:20:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: SORRY, I'M GOING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN
12:20:28 AS WELL.
12:20:28 SO THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 6 PER THOUSAND FOR MEDICAL
12:20:31 OFFICE USE.
12:20:35 AS IS, IS 7500 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY.
12:20:39 SO 45?
12:20:49 I'M SORRY, I AM TRYING TO DO THOSE CALCULATIONS.
12:20:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS LIKE
12:20:55 45 AND A HALF.
12:20:56 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES.
12:20:58 SO 7069 IS THE BUILDING.
12:21:00 >> IF I MAY, 43 SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
12:21:08 THE EXISTING PARKING LOT ACTUALLY HAS 32 SPACES SO WE ARE
12:21:11 SHORT ON PARKING BY ALMOST TEN SPACES.
12:21:14 THEY RECONFIGURED THE PARKING LOT AT THEIR EXPENSE TO
12:21:17 BRING THEM UP TO 45 SPACES.
12:21:20 THERE'S STILL SEVEN SPACES BELOW WHAT THE REQUIRED NUMBER
12:21:23 WOULD BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
12:21:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:21:28 THANK YOU.
12:21:31 OH, AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAD -- AND I THINK I ASKED
12:21:34 THIS LAST TIME AND DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER -- WAS WHAT IS
12:21:37 THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SPACES ASSUMING IT'S APPROVED AND
12:21:43 AFTER ITS REBUILT?
12:21:44 >> THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SPACES WOULD BE 74.
12:21:50 THIS IS RANDY COEN.
12:21:51 BASED UPON THE REVISED SITE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED, THAT
12:21:56 RYAN CERTIFIED JUST RECENTLY AND IS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
12:22:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:22:01 SO JUST TO RECAP, BASED UPON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A
12:22:07 DOCTOR'S OFFICE, OUR CODE, AND NEW CONSTRUCTION SCENARIO
12:22:14 REQUIRES 45 SPACES, AND THE PETITIONER IS LOOKING FOR 74
12:22:20 SPACES, WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE OF -- CHARLEY IS BETTER AT
12:22:24 THIS THAN I AM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE 29 SPACES.
12:22:32 >>DAVID MECHANIK: AGAIN JUST TO CLARIFY, THOUGH, I THINK
12:22:34 WE DOCUMENTED THE NEED GIVEN THAT OVER 50% OF THE WORK
12:22:38 DAYS, PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO PARK OFF-SITE.
12:22:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:22:48 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:22:52 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
12:22:53 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I KNOW WE CAN'T CONSIDER THIS, BUT THE
12:22:56 GATE YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT, JUST FOR MY OWN INFORMATION
12:22:59 AND FOR THE COMMUNITY LISTENING, MR. MECHANIK, CAN YOU
12:23:02 DESCRIBE SAID PROSPECTIVE GATE?
12:23:07 >> I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
12:23:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THE GATE THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING OF, COULD
12:23:10 YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?
12:23:12 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, I MEAN, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO
12:23:14 INSTALL IT.
12:23:14 I THINK THAT IS -- RYAN WOULD NEED TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT
12:23:21 THAT IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE PD ZONING BECAUSE THAT
12:23:24 WOULD BE AN ON-SITE CONDITION.
12:23:27 I BELIEVE RYAN WILL TELL YOU THAT WE MAY HAVE TO POSTPONE
12:23:31 SECOND READING TO MODIFY THE SITE PLAN TO THAT EFFECT,
12:23:35 BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
12:23:38 AND THE GATE WOULD BE ON MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY, SO IT
12:23:42 WOULD BE WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE PD, SO TO SPEAK.
12:23:48 WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
12:23:49 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:23:51 APPRECIATE IT.
12:23:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CATE WELLS HAS HER HAND UP.
12:23:56 >>CATE WELLS: I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A GOOD TIME TO
12:23:58 JUMP IN WITHOUT INTERRUPTING ANYBODY.
12:23:59 I JUST WANT TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT THE PD CRITERIA
12:24:02 STARTS ON PAGE 4 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND IF YOU HAVE
12:24:05 GOT ANY QUESTIONS, RYAN MANASSE CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO
12:24:08 THE CRITERIA. WITH RESPECT TO THE GATE THAT'S PROPOSED
12:24:12 FOR THE NORTH PARKING LOT, THAT IS AN ITEM THAT WOULD BE
12:24:17 APPROPRIATE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AS A CONDITION TO
12:24:20 MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED USE ON THE
12:24:23 SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT WOULD BE A
12:24:27 LAND DEVELOPMENT CONDITION OF APPROVAL AS OPPOSED TO A
12:24:30 CONDITION THAT RELATES DIRECTLY TO HOW THE ESTABLISHMENT
12:24:34 WOULD BE OPERATED.
12:24:35 SO I WOULD SUBMIT TO COUNCIL THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE
12:24:39 CONDITION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
12:24:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:24:47 IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CAN I HAVE A
12:24:49 MOTION TO CLOSE?
12:24:50 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
12:24:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
12:24:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:24:57 ALL RIGHT.
12:24:57 ANY OPPOSED?
12:25:00 OKAY.
12:25:02 COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM
12:25:04 NUMBER 71?
12:25:07 NO?
12:25:08 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 71?
12:25:12 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL READ IT.
12:25:14 I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
12:25:17 READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
12:25:19 GENERAL VICINITY OF 501 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, 2113 WEST
12:25:24 GRAY STREET AND 2114 AND 2118 WEST CARMEN STREET IN THE
12:25:28 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
12:25:32 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PLANNED
12:25:39 DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE PROVIDING AN
12:25:42 EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:25:42 MS. WELLS, I DO NEED TO SPECIFY THE GATE INCLUSION?
12:25:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, IF I CAN.
12:25:52 THE QUESTION IS, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO BRING TO
12:25:56 YOUR ATTENTION THE ADDITIONAL ADDED COMMENTS RELATIVE TO
12:26:01 THE FINDINGS WITH REGARD TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND
12:26:07 THE CITY CODE.
12:26:08 BUT IS IT YOUR INTENTION -- WAS IT YOUR INTENTION OR IS
12:26:12 IT YOUR INTENTION, MR. VIERA, TO INCLUDE THAT CONDITION?
12:26:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:26:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS THE CASE, I JUST WANT TO
12:26:20 MAKE SURE THAT -- MR. MECHANIK, THAT THERE WOULD BE NO
12:26:31 OBJECTION TO THAT.
12:26:31 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY TO REOPEN THE HEARING FOR
12:26:33 THE RECORD BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
12:26:35 >>LUIS VIERA: OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION MAYBE WE
12:26:38 SHOULD.
12:26:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REOPEN FROM COUNCILMAN
12:26:41 CITRO.
12:26:41 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:26:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:26:45 MR. MECHANIK.
12:26:47 >>DAVID MECHANIK: DAVID MECHANIK FOR THE RECORD.
12:26:48 WE WOULD AGREE TO THAT CONDITION TO ADD IT AS PART OF THE
12:26:55 PD AND ZONING APPROVAL.
12:26:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, AS A RESULT OF
12:26:59 THAT, I BELIEVE MS. WELLS DID INDICATE THAT WOULD REQUIRE
12:27:02 A CONTINUANCE.
12:27:05 THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, IF THAT IS MR. MECHANIK'S
12:27:08 DESIRE TO DO SO, AND WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION.
12:27:11 I WOULD ASK THAT HE STATE THAT ON THE RECORD SO THAT
12:27:13 COUNCIL CAN TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION SO IT CAN BE BROUGHT
12:27:15 BACK TO COUNCIL AT A FUTURE DATE TO BE DETERMINED TODAY
12:27:20 FOR CONTINUATION OF A SECOND READING FOR THE REVISED SITE
12:27:24 PLAN.
12:27:24 MR. MECHANIK.
12:27:26 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING.
12:27:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
12:27:33 >>CATE WELLS: I AM TRYING TO DECIDE IF IT'S A COULDN'T
12:27:35 ANSWER OF THE SECOND READING OR GO BACK TO FIRST READING
12:27:37 BECAUSE THE CERTIFIED SITE PLANS NOW NEED TO BE REVISED
12:27:40 AGAIN TO SHOW THE GATE SO I THINK WE WOULD ACTUALLY GO
12:27:44 BACK TO FIRST READING AND THAT CAN BE DONE TODAY AND THEN
12:27:46 THE MODIFICATION TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND
12:27:49 SECOND READING.
12:27:49 THAT'S I ASKED MR. MANASSE TO CONFIRM THAT AS WELL.
12:27:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WOULD AGREE WITH CATE.
12:27:58 THIS IS -- STAFF WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THE SITE PLAN AGAIN
12:28:03 AND RECERTIFY THAT DOCUMENT.
12:28:05 I THINK IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION TO MAKE SURE THIS IS
12:28:08 HANDLED DIRECTLY IF THIS MOTION PASSES TO CONTINUE TO
12:28:11 FIRST READING AND THEN RECEIVE THE REVISED SITE PLAN FROM
12:28:16 THE AGENT AND RECERTIFY AT SECOND READING.
12:28:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. WELLS, MR. MANASSE, AT THIS TIME MY
12:28:24 CONCERNS ABOUT THAT PORK CHOP, IF WE ARE GOING TO BRING
12:28:27 THIS BACK FOR FIRST READING, CAN I ALSO ASK FOR THAT,
12:28:30 TOO?
12:28:30 >>CATE WELLS: I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY COUNCIL'S
12:28:36 MOTION IS INCLINED TO PASS WITH THE PROPOSED CONDITION
12:28:38 FOR THE GATE, THAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE PLACED
12:28:43 ON FIRST READING TODAY.
12:28:44 I THINK BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, STAFF CAN REACH
12:28:48 OUT TO THE APPROPRIATE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO DISCUSS THOSE
12:28:52 OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND COORDINATE THAT IF THOSE ARE
12:28:55 EVEN A POSSIBILITY.
12:28:56 AS RYAN MENTIONED BECAUSE THOSE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ARE
12:28:59 OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY OF THE SITE PLAN, I DON'T BELIEVE
12:29:03 THOSE COULD BE ADDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
12:29:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:29:07 YOU HAVE HEARD MY CONCERN, MR. MECHANIK, AND MR. COEN.
12:29:13 THANK YOU.
12:29:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:29:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CITRO
12:29:21 HAD A QUESTION.
12:29:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS IT.
12:29:26 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER FOR THE RECORD,
12:29:28 DAVE MECHANIK AGAIN.
12:29:31 I THINK JUST TO CRICKET MS. WELLS ON ONE POINT, WE
12:29:37 COULD -- IT'S VERY COMMON IN A PD TO REQUIRE THE PORK
12:29:41 CHOP ON THE DRIVEWAY ENTERING INTO THE PROPERTY.
12:29:46 I DON'T THINK WE CAN -- I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANY
12:29:50 IMPROVEMENTS OFF-SITE, OKAY.
12:29:52 BUT I THINK WE COULD, THAT ENTRANCE ON GRAY STREET, COULD
12:29:56 BE CONDITIONED WITH A PORK CHOP, ASSUMING THE AGENCIES
12:30:02 AGREE TO IT.
12:30:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MECHANIK.
12:30:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
12:30:11 THERE IS A MOTION ALREADY.
12:30:13 UNLESS HE'S WITHDRAWING THE MOTION TO ASK FOR THESE
12:30:15 STIPULATIONS, I THINK A VOTE NEEDS TO BE TAKEN RIGHT NOW
12:30:19 ON THIS ONE, CORRECT?
12:30:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
12:30:22 WHAT WAS DONE, THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT WAS NOT REALLY
12:30:25 ADDRESSED BEFORE THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE
12:30:28 CONDITION IS INCLUDED.
12:30:33 WE TOOK NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
12:30:36 OPEN AND THE MOTION CAN BE REMADE AFTER CLOSE OF THE
12:30:38 PUBLIC HEARING.
12:30:39 SO AS A MATTER OF BUSINESS BEING CONDUCTED THAT MOTION
12:30:45 PRECEDES THE MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:30:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:30:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:30:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROCEDURALLY I AM NOT SURE WHERE WE
12:30:55 ARE.
12:30:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.
12:30:58 >> WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN TAKE A MOTION.
12:31:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT SEEMS THAT WHAT WOULD BE
12:31:05 APPROPRIATE, AND MS. WELLS, I AM GOING TO LEAVE IT TO
12:31:07 YOU, BUT WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR MR. MECHANIK TO HAVE
12:31:10 NO OBJECTION TO THIS BEING SENT BACK TO FIRST READING
12:31:12 WITH THOSE CONDITIONS BEING ADDED AND THEN THE TITLE
12:31:15 BEING READ AGAIN WITH THOSE CONDITIONS BEING MADE, AND
12:31:18 THEN IT WOULD COME BACK FOR SECOND READING WITH THE
12:31:21 MODIFICATIONS?
12:31:26 PLEASE ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS AND GIVE COUNCIL SOME
12:31:28 DIRECTION.
12:31:29 >>DAVID MECHANIK: WE HAVE NO OBJECTION.
12:31:30 DAVID MECHANIK AGAIN.
12:31:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
12:31:33 JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER.
12:31:39 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE PROCEDURALLY, BUT MY
12:31:45 DESIRE AT THIS POINT IS A MOTION TO DENY THE PETITION,
12:31:49 WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY PRECLUDE THE NEED TO SEND IT BACK,
12:31:55 ET CETERA.
12:31:57 I HATE TO SEE PEOPLE GOING THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE OF
12:32:02 MAKING CHANGES AND HAVING EXPECTATIONS THAT IF THERE'S
12:32:06 FOUR MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL WHO MIGHT AGREE WITH MY
12:32:09 MOTION, OR THREE OTHER MEMBERS, THEN LET'S JUST PUT TO
12:32:12 THE BED NOW.
12:32:14 BUT I DON'T WANT TO STEP OUT OF LINE, MR. SHELBY,
12:32:17 PROCEDURALLY.
12:32:19 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PENDING MOTION OR WHATEVER THAT
12:32:23 WOULD PRECLUDE ME FROM DOING THAT.
12:32:25 BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE
12:32:27 MITIGATION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, VIS-A-VIS A GATE OR
12:32:32 SOME ABSTRACT PORK CHOP THAT CAN'T BE PUT ON THE SITE
12:32:35 PLAN, IS ADEQUATE TO PROTECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:32:40 AND THAT'S WHY I AM READY AND WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO
12:32:43 DENY.
12:32:44 SO YOU CAN TELL ME OR MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU CAN TELL ME WHEN
12:32:47 AND IF THAT'S IN ORDER.
12:32:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. WELLS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU
12:32:52 WISH TO OPINE ON WITH REGARD TO THAT?
12:32:56 I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
12:32:59 AND IN THE POSTURE WE ARE IN, IT'S A VERY INTERESTING
12:33:06 SITUATION.
12:33:07 I TRY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
12:33:09 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
12:33:15 WITH RESPECT TO A MOTION TO DENY, I BELIEVE THERE'S A
12:33:17 MOTION TO APPROVE ON THE FLOOR THAT WAS SECONDED, AND WE
12:33:21 GOT DISTRACTED WITH THE DISCUSSION ON CONDITIONS TO BE
12:33:24 ADDED TO THE MOTION.
12:33:26 WITH RESPECT TO THE CONDITION.
12:33:28 ONE WOULD BE TO INCLUDE A GATE AROUND THE -- ON THE NORTH
12:33:34 PARKING LOT, AND THEN THE SECOND DISCUSSION WAS WITH
12:33:39 RESPECT TO THE SIGN AT THE DRIVEWAY BE PUT IN A PORK
12:33:44 CHOP.
12:33:45 AND DAVID MECHANIK CONFIRMED FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT
12:33:47 DESIGN WOULD ACTUALLY BE WITHIN THE DRIVEWAY, WITHIN THE
12:33:50 PROPERTY, SO THAT COULD BE A CONDITION ADDED TO THE SITE
12:33:54 PLAN.
12:33:55 WHEN I SPOKE EARLIER, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PORK CHOP WAS
12:33:59 GOING TO BE OFF-SITE, IN RESPONSE TO MR. COEN'S COMMENT,
12:34:03 THOUGH, IF IN FACT IF MR. MECHANIK IS OFFERING UP THE
12:34:07 DESIGN OF THE DRIVEWAY WITHIN THE PROPERTY COULD ADDRESS
12:34:09 THAT AND THEN THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE, AND IT COULD BE
12:34:13 INCLUDED AS A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN, THAT THAT COULD BE
12:34:17 ADDRESSED AND DESIGNED DURING THE PERMITTING.
12:34:23 I'LL DEFER TO MR. SHELBY ON THE PROCEDURAL ISSUES, BUT IF
12:34:26 THE MAKER OF THE MOTION WANTS TO WITHDRAW IT, THEN I
12:34:29 THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR COUNCIL TO SEEK ANOTHER
12:34:34 MOTION.
12:34:34 THANK YOU.
12:34:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE MOTION, AN
12:34:40 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
12:34:42 ADOPTION, WHICH WOULD THEN PRECLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL
12:34:44 CONDITIONS.
12:34:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:34:49 MAY I TRY?
12:34:50 SO PROCEDURALLY WHAT I MAKE A MOTION FOR FIRST READING
12:34:53 WITH THE GATE, AND IF THE PORK CHOP FITS --
12:35:00 >>CATE WELLS: YOU ARE RETURNING TO FIRST READING.
12:35:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WOULD REQUIRE
12:35:04 A VOTE OF COUNCIL WHICH WOULD ALSO REQUIRE AN AFFIRMATIVE
12:35:06 VOTE OF FOUR IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
12:35:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:35:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:35:17 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:35:19 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:35:20 ALL RIGHT.
12:35:20 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:35:22 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL READ THIS.
12:35:25 SHOULD I READ THE WHOLE THING AGAIN?
12:35:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, BECAUSE NOW IT IS AN ORDINANCE
12:35:29 BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
12:35:30 >>LUIS VIERA: I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
12:35:32 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
12:35:34 GENERAL VICINITY OF 5071 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, 2113 WEST
12:35:38 GRAY STREET AND 2114 AND 2118 WEST CARMEN STREET IN THE
12:35:43 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
12:35:44 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFIES PD PLANNED
12:35:47 DEVELOPMENT AND RS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
12:35:50 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE AND BUSINESS
12:35:53 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE WITH THE
12:35:55 A FOREMENTIONED CONDITIONS, WITH A PORK CHOP, I DON'T
12:35:58 KNOW IF THERE'S A MORE FORMAL TERM.
12:36:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S NOT CLEAR WE NEED TO MAKE
12:36:03 CLARIFICATION.
12:36:04 I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
12:36:05 BUT GUIDANCE FROM STAFF HOW BEST TO ADDRESS YOUR MOTION.
12:36:09 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, HOW BEST TO ARTICULATE THAT
12:36:13 FORMALLY?
12:36:14 >>RYAN MANASSE: I'M NOT A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER, SO
12:36:21 YOU MAY WANT TO CHECK BACK WITH RANDY IF YOU WANT A
12:36:25 TECHNICAL TERM FOR THE PORK CHOP, TRAFFIC DIVERTER AT THE
12:36:30 ENTRANCE OF THE STREET IN QUESTION, SOMETHING ALONG THAT
12:36:34 LINES.
12:36:34 >> RANDY COEN: IF I MIGHT SUGGEST WHAT WE ARE TALKING
12:36:42 ABOUT IS RESTRICTING A LEFT TURN OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY ONTO
12:36:46 GRAY STREET.
12:36:47 SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION IN TERMS OF PROVIDING A
12:36:53 PHYSICAL DETERRENT MAKING A LEFT TURN FROM THE DRIVEWAY,
12:37:02 SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN TO EASTBOUND GRAY STREET.
12:37:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:37:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
12:37:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY.
12:37:11 A CONSTITUENT JUST TEXTED ME AND SAID WE HAVE NOT BEEN
12:37:14 BROADCASTING ON CCTV FOR THE LAST 35 MINUTES.
12:37:18 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CREATES A SUNSHINE PROBLEM.
12:37:20 I WANT US TO HAVE A GOOD CLEAN RECORD FOR MR. MECHANIK
12:37:24 EITHER WAY.
12:37:26 I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO
12:37:29 BROADCAST, BUT SINCE WE ARE IN THIS BIZARRE HYBRID, I
12:37:34 JUST FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO RAISE THE ISSUE.
12:37:36 I'M NOT TRYING TO MUDDY THE WATERS.
12:37:39 I HOPE EVERYBODY BELIEVES ME.
12:37:41 BUT --
12:37:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR?
12:37:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT?
12:37:49 APPARENTLY WE ARE NOT BROADCASTING ON CCTV?
12:37:53 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:37:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN GO TO A MICROPHONE.
12:38:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
12:38:01 >> ERIC HAYDEN, CITY OF TAMPA, INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES.
12:38:07 YES, WE HAVE A FIOS ISSUE OVER AT OUR BROADCAST STUDIO
12:38:13 THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
12:38:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT APPROXIMATELY CORRECT, 30
12:38:17 MINUTES?
12:38:18 >> WE HAVE BEEN OUT 30 MINUTES, CORRECT.
12:38:20 THOSE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING WITH GO-TO-WEBINAR CAN SEE.
12:38:24 THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING THE CHANNEL CAN SEE.
12:38:26 IT'S ONLY THOSE LOOKING AT THE LIVESTREAM ON THE WEB.
12:38:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST TRIED PULLING IT UP ON
12:38:32 FACEBOOK LIVE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
12:38:33 >> CORRECT.
12:38:35 THAT PART BECAUSE WE LOST THE CONNECTION TO LIVESTREAM.
12:38:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY DON'T WE DO THAT?
12:38:40 WHILE THAT IS GETTING FIXED, WHY DON'T WE GO TO LUNCH AND
12:38:43 THEN IT GETS RESOLVED?
12:38:44 ALL THIS TALK ABOUT PORK CHOP --
12:38:47 [ LAUGHTER ]
12:38:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW I.T. WORKS VERY HARD.
12:38:53 IN THE FUTURE WHEN THAT HAPPENS, COULD YOU ALERT THIS
12:38:56 COUNCIL AND THE CHAIRMAN SO WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW?
12:38:58 BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A WAY TO GET QUESTIONS IN THE
12:39:00 FUTURE. CAN WE DO THAT, SIR?
12:39:02 >> ABSOLUTELY.
12:39:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:39:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MR. MECHANIK, JUST SO THINGS ARE
12:39:06 CLEAN, CAN WE HOLD THIS ITEM TILL AFTER LUNCH?
12:39:09 IT'S 12:37.
12:39:11 WE'LL COME BACK AT 2:00.
12:39:13 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL THEN.
12:39:15 WE'LL CONTINUE THIS AND FINISH THE AGENDA.
12:39:18 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL TWO.
12:42:20 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS UNTIL 2:00.)
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