TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 28, 2021
9:00 A.M. WORKSHOP SESSION
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09:05:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:05:21 WE ARE GOOD TO GO.
09:05:33 [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:05:37 I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS CITY OF TAMPA
09:05:42 CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
09:05:43 WELCOME HOME.
09:05:45 WE HAVEN'T BEEN HERE SINCE LAST SPRING.
09:05:49 HERE WE ARE BACK IN THE SAFEST WAY WE COULD -- WE COULD
09:05:50 DO.
09:05:54 MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:05:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:06:00 GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:06:03 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY OF COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:06:07 AS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO SAID, WE ARE HERE AT OLD CITY
09:06:07 HALL.
09:06:12 TODAY IS THURSDAY, JANUARY 28, 2021, AND THIS MEETING
09:06:15 IS TO REMIND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC -- THIS WORKSHOP
09:06:18 IS TAKING PLACE DURING A DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY.
09:06:21 IT IS.BEING CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM OF
09:06:24 THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE CITY OF COUNCIL CHAMBERS;
09:06:34 HOWEVER, -- EXCUSE ME -- ERIC, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?
09:06:37 NO.
09:06:41 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:06:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
09:06:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
09:06:49 WELL, WE WILL GET THIS GOING AND SEE HOW THIS WORKS.
09:06:53 IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS, MEMBERS OF
09:06:55 THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY
09:06:59 THROUGH TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA STATUTE
09:07:04 AND RULES AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
09:07:06 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
09:07:09 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION
09:07:16 NUMBER 220-225 AS AMENDED, RESOLUTION 220-490 AND
09:07:18 AMENDED BY CITY COUNCIL.
09:07:20 THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE
09:07:24 TO WATCH THIS MEETING AND VIEW IT ON CABLE TV SPECTRUM
09:07:35 CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND ON THE INTERNET
09:07:40 AS VIEWED -- TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:07:43 AND I AM TRYING TO TALK DIRECTLY IN THE MICROPHONE.
09:07:47 SOMEBODY, I BELIEVE, IS HEARING THIS GARBLED.
09:07:51 SO I WANT TO BRING THAT TO THE TECH PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
09:07:54 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE
09:07:56 IN THIS MEETING.
09:08:01 AND IT -- ALL IS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO LEARN
09:08:10 ABOUT IT AT THE TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL WEB SITE.
09:08:13 TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:08:18 I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THOSE WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE
09:08:21 AT CITY HALL WILL DO SO USING CMT.
09:08:24 IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WILL USE VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGY WHICH
09:08:26 IS LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
09:08:28 THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A
09:08:32 COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE AND DO NOT PREREGISTER,
09:08:35 REGISTER IN ADVANCE, HAVE THE OPTION OF COMING TO CITY
09:08:39 HALL DURING THE HYBRID LIVE VIRTUAL MEETING AND
09:08:42 PARTICIPATING USING CMT.
09:08:44 PLEASE NOTE THAT THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
09:08:48 INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE REQUIRED.
09:08:50 ALL WRITTEN MATERIAL THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR
09:08:56 TODAY'S WORKSHOP HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL.
09:08:59 AND I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:09:02 I TURN THE MEETING BACK TO YOU AND CITY COUNCIL.
09:09:02 THANK YOU.
09:09:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:12 ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:09:18 >>CLERK: MIRANDA --
09:09:19 DINGFELDER.
09:09:20 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:09:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:09:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:09:24 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:09:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:09:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY, WE GO TO THE
09:09:31 INVOCATION.
09:09:34 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOUR
09:09:35 GUEST TODAY.
09:09:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU, SIR.
09:09:48 I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE RABBI.
09:09:53 HE IS -- HE IS BEING PATCHED IN.
09:09:56 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR INVITING ME TO
09:09:58 JOIN YOU THIS MORNING.
09:10:00 >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME INTRODUCE YOU REAL FAST.
09:10:06 RABBI JOEL SIMON BEGAN HIS RABBINIC CAREER IN 2007 AS
09:10:11 THE ASSISTANT RABBI UNDER RABBI RICHARD BIRNHOLZ AND
09:10:18 AFTER A BRIEF HIATUS BECAME SENIOR RABBI OF THE 1200
09:10:21 SCHAARAI ZEDEK FAMILY CONGREGATION UPON THE RABBI'S
09:10:22 RETIREMENT.
09:10:26 HE IS THE CHAIR OF THE RABBINICAL ASSOCIATION AND SITS
09:10:31 ON THE BOARD OF THE JUDEA-CHRISTIAN HEALTH CLINIC AND
09:10:34 LIVE WITH HIS WIFE AND TWO CHILDREN, FIVE AND THREE AND
09:10:34 A HALF.
09:10:34 THANK YOU.
09:10:37 AND PLEASE LEAD OUR INVOCATION.
09:10:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING
09:10:40 FOR THE PLEDGE AFTERWARDS.
09:10:44 >> WELL, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR INVITING ME
09:10:45 TO JOIN YOU THIS MORNING.
09:10:48 I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WHY YOU INVITED ME BUT TODAY IS
09:10:53 ACTUALLY THE MINOR JEWISH HOLIDAY, TU BISHVAT.
09:10:58 ORIGINALLY THE TAX DAY, IT IS A JEWISH ARBOR DAY TO
09:11:01 CELEBRATE TREES AND NATURE.
09:11:08 THE RABBI'S FAVORITE STORY TO TELL ON THIS DAY IS A
09:11:12 RABBI 2,000 YEARS AGO WHO WAS WALKING DOWN THE ROAD ONE
09:11:17 DAY AND SAW AN OLD MAN PLANTING A TREE.
09:11:19 SAID TO THE MAN, HOW MANY YEARS WILL THIS TREE NEED TO
09:11:23 PRODUCE FRUIT, AND THE MAN ANSWERED 70 YEARS.
09:11:28 HONI SAID DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU WILL BE ALIVE IN 70
09:11:28 YEARS?
09:11:32 AND THE MAN ANSWERED, WHEN I WAS BORN I FOUND CAROB
09:11:36 TREES ALREADY IN THE WORLD PLANTED BY MY ANCESTORS.
09:11:40 JUST AS MY GRANDPARENTS PLANTED FOR ME, I PLANT NOW FOR
09:11:42 THE NEXT GENERATION.
09:11:46 THIS STORY REMINDS US THAT OUR ACTIONS NOT ONLY HAVE AN
09:11:50 IMPACT ON OUR PRESENT TIME OR OUR IMMEDIATE COMPANY,
09:11:55 EACH OF OUR ACTIONS PLANTS A SEED THAT GROWS AND
09:11:56 BRANCHES OUTWARD.
09:12:00 WEAVING THROUGH COUNTLESS LIVES AND MANY GENERATIONS,
09:12:02 CREATING OUR ULTIMATE LEGACY.
09:12:05 I KNOW THAT EVERYONE PRESENT HERE THIS MORNING IS HERE
09:12:09 BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT THE LEGACY THAT YOU LEAVE
09:12:10 BEHIND.
09:12:14 YESTERDAY WAS INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY.
09:12:18 AS I JOINED IN CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA LAST
09:12:21 NIGHT ON FACEBOOK, I WAS THINKING OF THE TREE THAT MY
09:12:26 GRANDPARENTS, REFUGEES FROM NAZI EUROPE PLANTED FOR MY
09:12:26 CHILDREN.
09:12:31 I THOUGHT ABOUT THE CONVERSATION MY CONGREGATION HAD
09:12:34 WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES TWO WEEKS AGO AS WE PREPARED FOR
09:12:36 MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. DAY, AND CONVERSATIONS WE
09:12:38 SHARED TOGETHER WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND
09:12:41 REMEMBERING THE TREES THAT WERE PLANTED BY THOSE OF ALL
09:12:45 COLORS WHO WORKED TOGETHER WITH DR. KING FIGHTING FOR
09:12:47 EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL.
09:12:52 WHILE MY GRANDPARENTS DID NOT LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO MEET
09:12:56 THEIR NAMESAKES, THEIR COURAGE, PERSEVERANCE AND
09:12:59 PATIENCE SHOW WE CAN CREATE LIGHT FROM DARKNESS AND
09:13:02 THEY CREATED A WORLD FOR MY FATHER THAT HAS BEEN BETTER
09:13:05 THAN THEIRS HAVE BEEN AS MY PARENTS WERE ABLE TO DO FOR
09:13:06 ME.
09:13:09 OUR GOD AND GOD OF OUR ANCESTORS, I PRAY THAT YOU BE
09:13:13 WITH THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL, THE GREAT CITY IT
09:13:16 REPRESENTS, ALL THOSE WHO PROTECT IT.
09:13:22 AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO EMERGING, WE PRAY FROM THIS
09:13:24 DIFFICULT CHAPTER OF HISTORY.
09:13:31 GRANT US THE SAME COURAGE, PERSEVERANCE AND PATIENCE OF
09:13:33 MY GRANDPARENTS AND MANY OF THEIR GENERATIONS THAT
09:13:37 TAUGHT US HOW TO MOVE FORWARD FROM ONE OF THE DARKEST
09:13:40 PERIODS OF HISTORY OF BECOMING BETTER THAN WE HAVE
09:13:41 BEFORE.
09:13:43 MAKE OUR LEGACY BE ONE OF PRUDENCE.
09:13:47 MAKE OUR LEGACY BE ONE OF COMPASSION.
09:13:51 MAKE OUR LEGACY BE ONE OF ALL OUR NEIGHBORS AND LOVE OF
09:13:55 THE STRANGER AND MAY THE FRUITS OF THAT TREE PROVIDE
09:13:58 NOURISHMENT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
09:14:00 AMEN.
09:14:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.
09:14:12 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:14:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:14:15 WE HAVE ALREADY DONE ROLL CALL.
09:14:16 YES, SIR?
09:14:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, I WANT TO
09:14:21 MAKE SURE THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA
09:14:25 GIVE A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR OUR MOST SENIOR COUNCILMAN
09:14:28 CHARLIE MIRANDA DURING THIS TIME.
09:14:31 I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND
09:14:34 MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS OUR BLESSINGS AND KNOW THAT WE
09:14:35 ARE WITH HIM.
09:14:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:14:39 I SECOND THAT AND APPRECIATE THOSE WORDS.
09:14:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS CERTAINLY IN OUR PRAYERS FOR A
09:14:42 SPEEDY RECOVERY.
09:14:44 WE KNOW THAT HE WILL BEAT THIS.
09:14:47 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HIS RETURN HERE FOR US.
09:14:48 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:14:55 AND ALSO A BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO COUNCILMEMBER LUIS
09:14:56 VIERA.
09:14:57 29 YEARS OLD.
09:14:59 A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING.
09:15:04 ITEM NUMBER 1, A MEMO FROM THE OFFICE OF COUNCILMEMBER
09:15:07 GUDES THAT WE REMOVED THIS ITEM.
09:15:09 MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:15:11 A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:15:13 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:15:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:15:15 AYE.
09:15:19 ALL RIGHT, THAT -- YES, SIR?
09:15:19 OKAY.
09:15:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:25 AND ALSO WE HAVE A CHANGE OF ORDER IN THE AGENDA WITH
09:15:27 ITEMS 5-8.
09:15:29 I BELIEVE THERE IS A COPY BEING HANDED OUT.
09:15:33 JUST REAL QUICK, ITEM 7 IS GOING TO BE NUMBER 5, 8 WILL
09:15:38 BE 6, 6 WILL BE 7, AND 5 WILL BE 8.
09:15:41 JUST FLIPPING THOSE ITEMS AROUND, BUT THE AGENDA WILL
09:15:42 CONTINUE HOPEFULLY SMOOTHLY.
09:15:46 I HOPE THAT WE GET OUT OF HERE BY LUNCHTIME SO WE DON'T
09:15:48 HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
09:15:51 COME BACK AT 5:00 FOR OUR EVENING SESSION.
09:15:54 LAST WEEK WE GOT OUT AT ALMOST 2 A.M.
09:15:56 YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES.
09:16:00 HAVING SAID THAT, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:16:04 I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE.
09:16:05 THEY ARE DOWNSTAIRS.
09:16:08 IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE GO
09:16:11 TO THE KIOSK THAT SHOULD TO BE YOUR LEFT.
09:16:14 IF YOU WERE FACING THE TV SCREENS AND SPEAK THERE.
09:16:22 WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE YOU.
09:16:56 ALL RIGHT, IF WE CAN SWITCH TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT
09:16:56 CAMERA.
09:16:57 THERE WE GO.
09:16:59 I SEE MR. RANSOM.
09:17:01 TWO OTHER GENTLEMEN.
09:17:05 GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:17:07 >> WE CAN'T REALLY HEAR YOU HERE.
09:17:11 MY NAME IS JAMES RANSOM REPRESENTING THE ORGANIZATION
09:17:12 OF BLACK AFFAIRS.
09:17:18 MR. CHAIR, RATHER THAN BEING REDUNDANT AND REPETITIVE,
09:17:22 WE ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TIME TO MAKE OUR COMMENTS.
09:17:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY HAVE THREE PEOPLE AND
09:17:29 GENERALLY ALLOW THREE A PERSON SO CAN DO NINE MINUTES.
09:17:34 CAN WE TURN THE VOLUME UP IN THE ROOM?
09:17:37 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS RALPH SMITH, A
09:17:40 MEMBER OF THE SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST GROUP --
09:17:43 >> WE SHOULD WAIT BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU AT ALL.
09:17:48 WAIT, WAIT, WE CAN'T -
09:17:50 >> LET ME START OVER.
09:17:52 MY NAME IS RALPH SMITH.
09:17:53 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:17:54 I AM A MEMBER --
09:17:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
09:17:59 CAN WE RAISE THE VOLUME, TURN IT UP HERE IN THE COUNCIL
09:18:08 CHAMBERS?
09:18:11 >> TESTING ONE, TWO, THREE?
09:18:20 HOW IS THAT?
09:18:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
09:18:27 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:18:27 >> YES.
09:18:40 >> NOW WE HAVE AN ECHO.
09:18:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU CHECK TO SEE
09:18:44 IF THEY CAN TURN THE VOLUME UP.
09:18:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.
09:18:50 AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD -- HOPEFULLY THIS IS COMING
09:18:54 THROUGH CLEARLY BECAUSE I WAS TOLD I WAS NOT
09:18:58 INTELLIGIBLE AND EASILY UNDERSTOOD WHEN I MADE MY
09:19:00 COMMENTS FOR SOME OF THE VIEWING AUDIENCE.
09:19:02 I WANT TO SEE IF IT IS WORKING NOW.
09:19:04 I WILL DOUBLE CHECK, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:19:19 WE WILL GET THINGS IN ORDER AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
09:19:20 >> HOW ARE WE DOING?
09:19:21 IS THAT ANY BETTER?
09:19:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
09:19:53 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JOHN BENNETT AT THE REMOTE SITE AND WE
09:20:03 HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT EXTREMELY WELL ON OUR END.
09:20:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SMITH, GO AHEAD.
09:20:09 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
09:20:12 THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE
09:20:14 TIME TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:20:15 MY NAME IS RALPH SMITH.
09:20:17 I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:20:19 I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST
09:20:25 GROUP AND A MEMBER OF THE BOAC COMMITTEE.
09:20:30 A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE LOOKED AT CHANGING THE BOAC
09:20:34 ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL POINTS ON RFPS FOR
09:20:37 MINORITY PARTICIPANTS.
09:20:42 CURRENTLY, EBAC IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF ENCOURAGING
09:20:48 WIMBY TO CERTIFY, BUT CERTIFICATION IS NOT ENOUGH.
09:20:50 CERTIFICATION DOES NOT LEAD TO CONTRACTS.
09:20:54 IN FACT, THE LAST FIGURES THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE
09:20:57 COMMITTEE AND THROUGH THE PUBLIC WAS IN ABOUT 2015
09:21:01 SHOWED THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUSINESSES WERE ONLY
09:21:06 RECEIVING 2% OF THE CONTRACTS OF THE AMOUNT OF THE
09:21:10 CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:21:14 I THINK THE BOAC COMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE MUCH MORE
09:21:18 EFFECTIVE -- WOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE THEY
09:21:21 CONCENTRATED MORE ON A NUMBER OF CONTRACTS AND THE
09:21:24 AMOUNTS OF CONTRACTS TO MINORITIES RATHER THAN JUST
09:21:25 CERTIFICATION.
09:21:43 THANK YOU.
09:21:44 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:21:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE ADDITIONAL TIME TO SPEAK.
09:21:49 AND MY NAME IS BRICE BOWDEN.
09:21:52 I AM A MEMBER OF THE SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST GROUP.
09:21:54 ACTUALLY I AM THE SECRETARY.
09:22:00 AND MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE RELATIVELY SHORT.
09:22:03 AND BASICALLY -- AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH
09:22:04 RHETORICAL.
09:22:07 HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT RHETORICAL STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN
09:22:10 VERY GOOD MOTIVATORS AND PERSUADERS OF PEOPLE TO TAKE
09:22:11 ACTION.
09:22:14 AND I THINK THAT THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED
09:22:18 TO BE TAKEN A LOOK AT AND ACTION TAKEN.
09:22:22 AND I KNOW THE WORKSHOP IS ALL ABOUT THE ORDINANCE
09:22:24 26.5.
09:22:28 AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE LOOKED AT WAS THE
09:22:30 GOOD FAITH EFFORTS.
09:22:33 AND PART OF IT STATES THAT GOOD FAITH EFFORTS ARE A
09:22:35 COURT-MANDATED REQUIREMENT.
09:22:39 IT ALSO SAYS IN THIS -- IN THIS THING THAT PRIOR TO ANY
09:22:45 CONTRACT BEING AWARDED -- WELL, I WILL READ IT EXACTLY.
09:22:48 THE DETERMINATION WHETHER A BIDDER HAS MADE GOOD-FAITH
09:22:51 EFFORT WILL BE MADE TO THE MANAGER PRIOR TO THE AWARD
09:22:56 OF THE PROJECT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TERMS HEREOF.
09:23:00 THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE -- OR MY STATEMENT IS THAT,
09:23:02 YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THE DATA SHOWING THAT GOOD-FAITH
09:23:05 EFFORT HAD BEEN DOCUMENTED?
09:23:07 WHAT IS THE AUDIT TRAIL?
09:23:09 WHAT IS THE INSPECTION?
09:23:10 THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
09:23:12 SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT
09:23:18 THIS ORDINANCE AS -- AS THIS COMMERCIAL GOES, WHERE'S
09:23:19 THE BEEF?
09:23:23 THAT IS THE OVERALL THING AND MY QUESTION WITH REGARDS
09:23:23 TO THIS.
09:23:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME.
09:23:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:23:28 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:23:32 MY NAME IS JAMES RANSOM, BOARD MEMBER AND CHAIR OF THE
09:23:35 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE TAMPA ORGANIZATION OF BLACK
09:23:36 AFFAIRS.
09:23:39 WE SPOKE WITH ALL -- ALL OF THAT YOU WE COULD GET TO
09:23:42 YESTERDAY ABOUT THE ISSUE THAT WE CAME TO SPEAK ABOUT,
09:23:44 THE EBO ISSUE.
09:23:47 WE KNOW STAFF IS GOING TO REPORT ON SOME FINDINGS OR
09:23:53 GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT THE CONSULTANTS ATNB AND
09:23:56 AERO BUSINESS GROUP DID WITH YOU.
09:24:02 WE MET WITH ATNB LAST WEEK AND HAD A CONVERSATION.
09:24:04 NOTHING IN THE CONVERSATION LED TO RECOMMENDATIONS.
09:24:06 WE DIDN'T SEE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT TWO
09:24:08 NIGHTS AGO TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.
09:24:10 WE HAVE ALREADY E-MAILED YOU WHAT MY COMMENTS WERE
09:24:11 GOING TO BE ABOUT.
09:24:16 SO WE ARE TECHNICALLY HERE TO JUST REAFFIRM OUR REQUEST
09:24:19 FOR ACTION FROM THE MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:24:20 WE THINK THE SPIRIT IS THERE.
09:24:23 WE THINK THE MAYOR HAS THE VISION AND INTENTION TO DO
09:24:25 THE RIGHT THING AND WE KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS TAKEN
09:24:28 THE LEADERSHIP ACTION WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, PROBABLY
09:24:30 THE UNPRECEDENTED LEADERSHIP ACTION.
09:24:33 WE NEVER SEEN A CITY COUNCIL STOP CONTRACTS FROM THE
09:24:35 MAYOR TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE
09:24:36 HISTORY OF TAMPA.
09:24:40 SO THIS GOOD LEADERSHIP ON BOTH SIDES.
09:24:41 THE EFFORTS IS THERE.
09:24:43 WE DON'T WANT DELAYED ACTION WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH
09:24:44 DETAIL.
09:24:50 WE DON'T WANT DELAYED OPTION WITH -- ACTION WITH THE
09:24:53 MAYOR TO ADHERE TO NEW POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND
09:24:55 PRACTICES AND PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT THAT ARE
09:24:59 GOAL ORIENTED, MEASURABLE, ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT AND
09:25:03 CONSEQUENTIAL FOR FAILING TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THE CITY
09:25:04 SAYS IT WANTS TO DO.
09:25:08 WHAT DOES THE CITY WANT TO DO THE CITY WANTS TO IMPROVE
09:25:12 AND INCREASE ITS SPENDING WITH BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
09:25:14 NOT JUST BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
09:25:16 BUT THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.
09:25:18 IN ADDITION TO OTHERS BEING PAID, WE WANT THE CITY TO
09:25:22 INTENTIONALLY SPEND MORE MONEY WITH BLACK-OWNED
09:25:25 BUSINESSES AND AN EASY WAY TO DO THAT.
09:25:27 WE PROVIDED AN INFORMATION TO THE CITY ABOUT ATLANTA,
09:25:32 GEORGIA; CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA; GREENVILLE, SOUTH
09:25:35 CAROLINA; CINCINNATI, OHIO; AND MIAMI, FLORIDA.
09:25:38 MUCH OF WHAT YOU NEED TO WRITE IN AN ORDINANCE AND
09:25:41 ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVES ARE IN CITIES WHERE GOOD
09:25:43 PRACTICES ARE ALREADY BEING DONE.
09:25:47 WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TO CONTINUE TO NOT IMPROVE
09:25:49 CONTRACTS UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED.
09:25:52 I KNOW THIS, YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND SPENDING
09:25:56 MONEY TO WAIT FOR A DISPARITY STUDY IN A COUPLE OF
09:25:57 YEARS.
09:25:59 YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY WITH PEOPLE OTHER THAN
09:26:01 BLACK-OWNED COMPANIES.
09:26:05 WE DON'T WANT TO YOU DO THAT AND DENY US TAXPAYERS WHO
09:26:08 WROTE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FROM THE SAME PROSPERITY
09:26:09 BEING SHARED BY OTHERS.
09:26:11 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
09:26:14 COLLABORATE WITH THE STAFF WHO IS WORKING WITH US AS
09:26:16 WELL AND WITH YOU TO HELP MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
09:26:17 OKAY.
09:26:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:26:20 >> ALL RIGHT, BYE-BYE.
09:26:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:26:37 ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.
09:27:09 GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:27:11 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:27:12 >> OKAY.
09:27:14 VICTOR DEMAYO.
09:27:18 I'M HERE REPRESENTING COYOTE UGLY IN YBOR CITY.
09:27:20 I'M HERE BECAUSE WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE CITY
09:27:26 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE -- A RATHER OMINOUS LETTER SAYING WE
09:27:31 HAVE TO FOR NOW PROVIDE TWO OFFICERS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
09:27:35 BUT THE MAIN -- THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE IF
09:27:38 YOU LOOK AT THE VERY LAST ITEM ON THE PAGE, SAYS THIS
09:27:44 REQUIREMENT APPLIES TO ESTABLISHMENTS WITH 250-PERSON
09:27:45 PLUS OCCUPANCY LOAD.
09:27:48 THE SITUATION WE HAVE BECAUSE OF COVID OUR LEGAL
09:27:51 OCCUPANCY LOAD HAS BEEN REDUCED TO 150.
09:27:54 SO TECHNICALLY -- AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF
09:27:57 ATTORNEYS ABOUT THIS -- WE DON'T REALLY COME UNDER THIS
09:27:57 PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT.
09:28:00 THE OTHER SITUATION IS THIS.
09:28:03 WE HAVE -- WE HAVE HAD OFFICERS IN THE PAST -- THIS WAS
09:28:04 AN ISSUE A FEW YEARS AGO.
09:28:07 WE PUT A DEPOSIT DOWN WHICH IS STILL THERE.
09:28:13 BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE REQUESTED OFFICERS.
09:28:14 THEY SHOW UP INITIALLY.
09:28:17 AND A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER DOWN ONE OFFICER AND A
09:28:19 COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER THAT DOWN TO NO OFFICERS.
09:28:23 NOT THAT MANY OFFICERS WITH SUPER BOWL GOING ON, JUST
09:28:24 THAT MANY OFFICERS.
09:28:26 WE ACTUALLY CALLED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
09:28:30 THEY ARE NOT ASSIGNING OFF-DUTY OFFICERS BECAUSE OF --
09:28:32 BECAUSE OF THE COVID SITUATION.
09:28:36 I GUESS I CAN GO TO PLANT CITY OR TEMPLE TERRACE.
09:28:37 I DON'T KNOW WHICH.
09:28:41 BUT I HAVE CALLED -- HONESTLY -- IN THIS PARTICULAR
09:28:45 LETTER ON THE SECOND PAGE SAYS TO CALL CAPTAIN BRETT
09:28:46 OWEN.
09:28:51 I CALLED CAPTAIN OWEN AND SOME LADY, ANNA GRIFFIN
09:28:54 RICHARDSON -- I CALLED ON MONDAY WHEN THIS THING CAME
09:28:59 UP AND I CALLED MONDAY, AND CAPTAIN OWEN DOESN'T CALL
09:28:59 ME BACK.
09:29:02 I CALL THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SAYS SUSAN
09:29:07 JOHNSON-VELEZ WAS IN CHARGE OF THIS SITUATION.
09:29:10 I CALLED HER MONDAY, YESTERDAY, AND STILL WAITING FOR A
09:29:11 RETURN CALL.
09:29:13 I'M HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO
09:29:13 DO.
09:29:17 AND I AM TRYING TO HELP MY CLIENT ALONG WITH THESE
09:29:19 OTHER, YOU KNOW, 14 ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE IN THE SAME
09:29:22 SITUATION, BUT BECAUSE OF COVID-19, WE HAVE LEGALLY
09:29:24 BEEN REDUCED TO 150 PEOPLE.
09:29:26 WE HAVE TABLE AND CHAIRS.
09:29:28 NO STANDING AROUND.
09:29:30 JUST NOTHING AGAINST THE OFFICERS.
09:29:32 BUT THE OFFICERS DON'T GO INSIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT.
09:29:35 THEY STAND OUTSIDE AND JUST -- YOU KNOW, WE DON'T MIND
09:29:40 PAYING FOR OFFICERS, BUT WE ALSO -- I DO HAVE AN ISSUE
09:29:45 PAYING OFFICERS TO PROVIDE EXTRA SECURITY IN YBOR CITY.
09:29:49 PLEASE -- SOMEBODY TELL ME -- WHAT MYSELF OR WHAT
09:29:52 COYOTE UGLY IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
09:29:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:29:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I GOTTEN TO LEGAL ABOUT
09:29:58 THAT ISSUE.
09:30:01 I KNOW THAT IT IS AN ISSUE WITH THE BARS HAVING
09:30:05 SECURITY OFFICERS DOWN IN YBOR CITY.
09:30:09 I DO REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON THE FORCE THAT OFFICERS
09:30:11 WERE REQUIRED DOWN THERE.
09:30:14 BUT, AGAIN, I ASK LEGAL AGAIN THE QUESTION WOULD BE, A
09:30:18 LOT OF OFFICERS DON'T WANT TO WORK OFF-DUTY ANYMORE.
09:30:23 AND SUPER BOWL AND COVID, HOW WILL WE BE ABLE TO SUPPLY
09:30:27 THOSE OFFICERS TO THOSE BUSINESSES?
09:30:30 AND THE CITY ATTORNEY IS WORKING ON A PLAN TO MAKE SURE
09:30:33 WE CAN PROVIDE OFFICERS SO WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING IN
09:30:35 WRITING HOW THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO BE ABLE TO
09:30:41 GIVE THE SECURITY THAT IS NEEDED DOWN IN YBOR THAT MR.
09:30:44 DEMAYO WAS TALKING ABOUT.
09:30:46 THE DESCRIPTION WHAT THE OFFICERS WILL BE ALLOWED TO DO
09:30:49 I KNOW OFFICERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PATROL INSIDE OF
09:30:51 BARS AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE UNLESS THEY CHANGE THEIR
09:30:55 POLICY DON'T ALLOW DEPUTIES TO WORK ALCOHOLIC
09:30:55 ESTABLISHMENTS.
09:30:58 I THINK WE NEED A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND SOMETHING A
09:31:00 LITTLE MORE DEFINITIVE TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS HOW TO
09:31:05 WILL WORK AND HOW THIS WILL -- I YIELD BACK, SIR.
09:31:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:08 MR. DEMAYO.
09:31:12 I WILL COORDINATE WITH YOU IN MY OFFICE AND SEE IF WE
09:31:14 CAN GET YOU SOME ANSWERS WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
09:31:15 WHAT NOT.
09:31:18 AND WE WILL -- WE HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
09:31:22 WE WILL REACH OUT TO YOU AND SEE HOW WE CAN HELP WITH
09:31:24 THE COMMUNICATION HERE.
09:31:25 >> I APPRECIATE IT.
09:31:28 MY CONCERN AGAIN IS STARTING THIS WEEKEND AND GOING
09:31:28 FORWARD.
09:31:33 ARE WE GOING TO BE -- IS CODE ENFORCEMENT GOING TO SHOW
09:31:36 UP AND START SENDING TICKET -- ACCORDING TO THIS LETTER
09:31:39 YOU GET FOUR TICKETS, AND THEY PULL YOUR LIQUOR
09:31:41 LICENSE, AND WE ALREADY LOST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
09:31:43 DOLLARS.
09:31:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMEONE ON THE LINE TO SPEAK.
09:31:48 IS THAT ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS?
09:31:50 >>GINA GRIMES: YES, GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
09:31:52 I AM THE PERSON THAT DRAFTED THE COURTESY NOTICE OF
09:31:56 ENFORCEMENT THAT MR. DEMAYO IS REFERRING TO.
09:32:00 AND HE WAS INFORMED THAT IF HE HAS PROBLEMS OR ISSUES
09:32:05 WITH RESPECT TO THE NOTICE AND ITS APPLICABILITY TO HIS
09:32:09 CLIENT COYOTE UGLY THAT HE CAN TALK DIRECTLY TO ME.
09:32:11 HE HAS NOT REACHED OUT TO ME.
09:32:15 I JUST FOUND OUT THAT HE REACHED OUT TO SUSAN
09:32:19 JOHNSON-VELEZ, BUT I AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH MR. DEMAYO
09:32:22 TO SEE HOW WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
09:32:25 MR. GUDES' ISSUE, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ANY OF THE
09:32:28 ESTABLISHMENTS IN YBOR CITY THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE
09:32:30 THE EXTRA DUTY OFFICERS, THERE WILL BE SUFFICIENT
09:32:34 OFFICERS AVAILABLE TO SERVE IN THOSE SPOTS.
09:32:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:32:39 THAT WAS GINA GRIMES, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MR. DEMAYO.
09:32:43 SHE IS HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.
09:32:45 SO IF YOU REACH OUT TO HER.
09:32:49 IF NOT -- AGAIN, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO GET YOU THE PHONE
09:32:51 NUMBER AND, YOU KNOW, SET IT UP.
09:32:52 ALL RIGHT.
09:32:52 >> THANK YOU.
09:32:53 APPRECIATE IT.
09:32:54 THANK YOU, ALL.
09:32:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:33:08 NEXT SPEAKER.
09:33:41 YES, SIR.
09:33:46 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:33:47 HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
09:33:52 CAN YOU HOLD MY TIME, PLEASE?
09:33:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:33:55 >> CAN YOU GUYS HOLD IT DOWN?
09:33:59 APPRECIATE IT A WHOLE LOT.
09:34:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:34:04 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:34:06 YOU KNOW WE HAVE A REALITY HERE WE HAVE THREE GENTLEMEN
09:34:10 THAT CAME UP TO SPOKE FROM THE BREAKFAST CLUB, AND THEY
09:34:16 SPOKE IN REFERENCE TO THE DISPROPORTIONAL -- CAN YOU
09:34:17 HEAR ME?
09:34:18 OKAY.
09:34:23 THE DISPROPORTIONATE ALLOCATION OF CITY CONTRACTS AND
09:34:26 SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING ON FOR 30 YEARS.
09:34:29 WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION, AND WE DON'T GET 26% OF
09:34:31 THE GOOD SERVICES OR ANYTHING THAT IS ALLOCATED
09:34:33 THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:34:35 WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION.
09:34:38 WE DON'T GET 26% OF NOTHING GOOD IN THIS CITY.
09:34:42 NOW ANYTHING BAD, IF IT IS ARRESTS, IF IT IS EVICTIONS
09:34:46 OR ANYTHING BAD, IF IT IS GOING TO FLORIDA STATE
09:34:49 PENITENTIARY, WE GET 80% OF THAT.
09:34:52 TIME FOR THAT TO CHANGE AND THE REALITY OF THAT IS, I
09:34:55 ALWAYS SAID IT AND I SAID IT TODAY AND 10 YEARS AGO, 20
09:34:58 YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO.
09:35:00 WE HAVE A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL.
09:35:02 THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE CITY IS AN AUTOMATIC.
09:35:05 AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE MAYOR DON'T EVEN COME DOWN
09:35:06 HERE ANYMORE.
09:35:08 AND THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT.
09:35:10 APPARENTLY THE POWER IS SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THE
09:35:12 GOVERNMENT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE PEOPLE OTHER
09:35:16 THAN RUN AROUND AND TRY TO GET A VOTE.
09:35:20 NOT FOR AFRICAN, BLACK PEOPLE, Y'ALL LIKE TO SEE US
09:35:23 BEG, BEG SOME MORE, DANCE AND THEN SUFFER.
09:35:25 AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE COME UP HERE AND YOU GIVE
09:35:28 US SOME KIND OF AWARD AND THIS PERSON -- BUT AIN'T
09:35:29 NOTHING CHANGED.
09:35:32 IT IS TIME FOR US TO HAVE SOME CHANGES IN THIS CITY.
09:35:35 IT IS TIME FOR US TO HAVE SOME CHANGES IN THE CITY.
09:35:37 NOT WINDOW-DRESSING.
09:35:40 SOME THINGS WE WANT TO SEE IN THIS CITY SO BLACK PEOPLE
09:35:43 CAN MOVE FORWARD AND WE CAN FORGET ABOUT -- WHAT THEY
09:35:46 ARE DOING USING JIM CROW AND BLACK CODES TO DO THE SAME
09:35:48 THING THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
09:35:52 AND TIME FOR THAT TO CHANGE.
09:35:54 SOME OF THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, WE WOULD
09:35:57 LIKE TO SEE THIS CITY COUNCIL STEP UP TO STOP ALL OF
09:36:00 THE SUSPENSION OF DRIVER'S LICENSES FOR PEOPLE IN CHILD
09:36:01 SUPPORT.
09:36:05 PEOPLE WHO HAVE THESE OUTSTANDING FINES THEY HAVE DOWN
09:36:09 -- ADD-ON FINES FOR TICKETS AND OTHER THINGS AND OTHER
09:36:09 REASONS.
09:36:13 WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE FACT THAT THIS CITY
09:36:18 COUNCIL TODAY -- RIGHT NOW TODAY -- MAKE A STATEMENT
09:36:21 TOWARD WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON UP BEFORE THIS CITY
09:36:22 COUNCIL.
09:36:27 YOU KNOW ONE THING ABOUT ME -- CAN YOU HOLD ONE SECOND,
09:36:28 PLEASE.
09:36:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
09:36:41 >> YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.
09:36:43 SOMEBODY TALKING THE OTHER ROOM.
09:36:55 WHEN THEY FINISH TALKING, I WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
09:36:58 THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT ME, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU
09:36:59 THINK.
09:37:03 WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING AND DOING DEROGATORY THINGS,
09:37:07 MAKING RACIAL JOKES, MAKING RELIGIOUS JOKES, MAKING
09:37:16 ETHNIC JOKES, I WALK AWAY FROM IT.
09:37:19 AND --
09:37:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF ANYBODY IS TALKING -- IF ANYONE
09:37:24 IS SPEAKING IN THE OTHER ROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR,
09:37:27 PLEASE -- IF YOU ALLOW THE GENTLEMAN TO FINISH.
09:37:31 >> HEY, I WILL SPEAK LAST IF NECESSARY TO HAVE THE
09:37:35 ABILITY TO SPEAK IN PEACE.
09:37:38 BECAUSE IF GROWN FOLKS CAN'T COME TO A PLACE AND BE
09:37:41 QUIET WHEN OTHER PEOPLE TRYING TO SPEAK, THERE IS A
09:37:42 SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THAT.
09:37:45 AND PROTESTING AND DEMONSTRATING, I DON'T HAVE A
09:37:46 PROBLEM WITH THAT.
09:37:49 BUT IF A PERSON IS TRYING TO SPEAK AND THEY KNOW THEY
09:37:53 ARE IN THE OTHER ROOM AND TALKING AND CONTINUE TO TALK.
09:37:55 I AM IN THE OTHER ROOM, AND I CAN'T HEAR WHAT IS GOING
09:37:57 ON OVER HERE WHEN THE OTHER PERSON WAS SPEAKING.
09:37:59 WHEN THE OTHER PEOPLE WERE SPEAKING.
09:38:01 THAT IS DISRESPECT TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
09:38:08 YOU WANT TO SPEAK, GO OUTSIDE.
09:38:12 SO AS WAS SAYING, WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING ETHNIC,
09:38:18 RACIAL, RELIGIOUS JOKES, I SEPARATE MYSELF FROM THAT.
09:38:20 AND ANYONE HAVING ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW AND I KNOW OUR
09:38:24 CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW
09:38:28 ABOUT SENSITIVITY, ABOUT RACIAL SENSITIVITY, ABOUT
09:38:33 RELIGIOUS SENSITIVITY, ABOUT GENDER SENSITIVITY.
09:38:35 YOU CAN'T DO THAT NO MORE.
09:38:39 AND WE HAVE HAD HERE BEFORE THIS LAST YEAR ENDED, WE
09:38:42 HAVE HAD TWO PEOPLE CAME TRITE THIS MICROPHONE AND
09:38:47 INSULTED THE EXISTENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE AND THE WHOLE
09:38:49 CITY COUNCIL SAT THERE AND DIDN'T PUT THEM IN CHECK.
09:38:52 AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY GAVE ONE PERSON AN AWARD.
09:38:55 A PERSON CAME RIGHT BEFORE THIS MICROPHONE AND SPOKE OF
09:38:58 THE POVERTY MENTALITY AND THE PEOPLE OF EAST TAMPA.
09:38:59 IT IS AN INSULT.
09:39:02 AND WE NEED AN APOLOGY FROM THIS CITY COUNCIL.
09:39:05 ANOTHER MAN COME BEFORE THIS MICROPHONE AND IT IS ALL
09:39:07 GOOD, FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
09:39:09 IT IS ALL GOOD.
09:39:12 BUT WHEN YOU INSULT, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT
09:39:13 THAT.
09:39:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:39:17 >> WE HAD ANOTHER MAN COME AND SPEAK UP AFRICAN PEOPLE
09:39:20 BEING THUGS AND DRUG DEALERS AND DON'T PAY TAXES.
09:39:23 CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO REBUKE THOSE STATEMENTS.
09:39:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:39:33 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK HERE AT
09:39:39 THE LECTERN?
09:39:48 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
09:39:49 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:39:53 CONNIE BUROME.
09:39:58 I WANT TO REALLY APPRECIATE THE RABBI AND HIS
09:40:03 INVOCATION THIS MORNING BECAUSE IT KIND OF -- KIND OF
09:40:07 GOT IN MY THOUGHTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD 2021.
09:40:12 WHAT TYPE OF SEEDS ARE WE PLANTING?
09:40:16 WE HAVE SEEN SO MUCH GO ON.
09:40:22 PEOPLE HAVING TO HAVE REAL EXAMPLES OF WHAT DISPARITIES
09:40:27 LOOK LIKE, NOT JUST ON A LOCAL LEVEL BUT SEEING IT FROM
09:40:34 A NATIONAL LEVEL, OF SEEING HOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE
09:40:40 TO STORM CAPITOLS, THE NATIONAL CAPITOL.
09:40:46 TALK OF INSURRECTION AND LIMITED REACTION OTHER THAN
09:40:48 TALKING POINTS.
09:40:51 RIGHT HERE IN EAST TAMPA, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
09:40:59 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND HOPEFULLY YOUR WORKSHOP
09:41:02 SHOULD INCLUDE YOU WALKING THROUGH EAST TAMPA, NOT
09:41:06 PRIOR TO AN ELECTION, BUT COME TO EAST TAMPA AND SEE
09:41:13 WHY WE DON'T HAVE AFRICAN-AMERICANS THAT IS SKILLED,
09:41:18 THAT ARE ABLE-BODIED, ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ECONOMIC
09:41:19 OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS CITY.
09:41:22 WHY IS IT EVERY TIME WE ARE HAVING THIS WORKSHOP AND WE
09:41:25 SAY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF CONTRACTS ARE COMING TO THE
09:41:29 AFRICAN COMMUNITY, IT ALWAYS STARTS FROM A ZERO, ZERO,
09:41:34 ZERO PERCENTAGE AND HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO BE GIVEN YOU
09:41:39 ALL BY AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESENTERS AS IF IT IS OKAY.
09:41:40 IT IS NOT OKAY.
09:41:44 WE WANT TO PLANT SEEDS OF HOPE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
09:41:52 WE CALLED ON THIS ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE
09:41:57 UTILIZED THE BLACK VOTES FOR YOUR VERY POSITION TO
09:42:00 CHANGE YOUR COURSE IMMEDIATELY.
09:42:04 THAT WE SAY IN EAST TAMPA THAT WE CAN NOT TALK OF
09:42:09 REMOVAL OF BLIGHT AND SLUM AND POVERTY.
09:42:12 IF THE VERY PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY CANNOT PARTICIPATE
09:42:13 ECONOMICALLY.
09:42:17 WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ON AND KEEP ON WITH THE SAME
09:42:21 TITLE, WITH THE SAME MESSAGE BECAUSE, YES, I BROUGHT MY
09:42:22 GRANDSON HERE.
09:42:25 I AM TAKING HIM ALL THROUGH THIS CITY BECAUSE I WANT
09:42:28 HIM TO SEE WHAT TAMPA LOOKS LIKE.
09:42:33 I WANT HIM TO UNDERSTAND, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE ARE LAZY
09:42:37 BUT BECAUSE POLICIES ARE BEING DRIVEN TO MAKE SURE THAT
09:42:42 IF HE DON'T FIGHT AND IF I DON'T FIGHT, THEN OUR
09:42:46 COMMUNITY WILL NOT CHANGE AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WILL NOT
09:42:47 HAVE ANY HOPE.
09:42:48 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:42:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:43:00 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WISHES
09:43:12 TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?
09:43:17 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
09:43:18 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:43:21 SAY YOUR NAME.
09:43:25 >> GOOD MORNING, NATASHA GOODLEY.
09:43:27 I HAVE A BUSINESS CONSULTING FIRM HERE IN TAMPA, AND I
09:43:31 WORKED WITH WELL OVER 300 SMALL AND MICRO BUSINESSES
09:43:32 WITHIN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
09:43:36 AND I HELPED HUNDREDS OF BUSINESS ACCESS CAPITAL
09:43:42 THROUGH COVID RELIEF EFFORTS.
09:43:45 I CAN TELL OF MANY ENCOUNTERS AND OBSTACLES BUSINESSES
09:43:47 NOTED OVER THE YEARS.
09:43:51 THE FIRST IS THE WOMAN-OWNED BUSINESS DESIGNATION FOR
09:43:55 BLACK WOMEN AND MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES TAMPA
09:43:59 CURRENTLY NOT A DESIGNATION THAT MINORITY OWN --
09:44:03 FEMALE-MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES RECEIVE, AND IT SHOULD
09:44:05 BE BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO CALL IT STRIKES.
09:44:08 TWO STRIKES BEING A BLACK FEMALE AND ALSO ANOTHER
09:44:11 STRIKE BEING A FEMALE AND THEN BEING BLACK.
09:44:14 SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THE TWO DESIGNATIONS BEING PROVIDED
09:44:16 TO THE BUSINESS.
09:44:19 SECOND, WE NEED TO EXPAND THE BRIDGES TO BUSINESS
09:44:22 PROGRAM TO NOT JUST HELP BUSINESSES GET STARTED WITH
09:44:25 THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS, BUT TO ACTUALLY BE WITH THEM
09:44:28 TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS AND THEN ACTUALLY HELP THEM
09:44:30 OBTAIN CONTRACTS.
09:44:32 THIRD, OF COURSE, WE CAN ALWAYS USE A MORE
09:44:35 USER-FRIENDLY WEB SITE.
09:44:38 FOURTH, PROVIDE HELP WITH THE STRUCTURE, FOUNDATION AND
09:44:40 ORGANIZATION OF BUSINESSES.
09:44:44 AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL -- THE SBA,
09:44:45 THE SBDC.
09:44:48 WE HAVE SEVERAL ORGANIZATION THAT'S WORK TO DO THAT,
09:44:51 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE COHESIVE GROUPING
09:44:56 WITH THE CITY TO ALSO ASSIST THOSE BUSINESSES WITH IT.
09:45:00 ALL RFPS ARE NOT WRITTEN THE SAME.
09:45:02 SOME ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT
09:45:03 THE CITY IS ACTUALLY SEEKING.
09:45:06 SO WE NEED TO DO MORE AND ACCESS PARTICIPATION ACROSS
09:45:08 THE BOARD.
09:45:10 THE SAME BUSINESSES CONSISTENTLY GET BUSINESS WITH THE
09:45:14 CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE MANY OTHERS ARE SHUT OUT OF THE
09:45:18 PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS VERY -- EVEN FOR MYSELF AND FOR
09:45:19 THOSE WHO KNOW ME.
09:45:22 I HAVE A DOCTORATE DEGREE.
09:45:24 MANY TIMES IT IS ACTUALLY DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
09:45:27 THE RFPS ARE ACTUALLY REQUESTING.
09:45:30 I AM CONSISTENTLY APPROACHED IN MY PERSONAL BUSINESS BY
09:45:34 LARGER WHITE-OWNED BUSINESSES WHO WANT TO PARTNER FOR
09:45:36 THE ONLY REASON OF TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WORKING WITH
09:45:37 MINORITY CONTRACTORS.
09:45:43 TYPICALLY, MY SKILL SET EVEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
09:45:45 WE MIGHT WANT TO SCRUTINIZE THE ACTUAL ROLE THAT
09:45:49 MINORITIES ROLE PLAY IN SUBCONTRACTOR ROLES ON THESE
09:45:52 CONTRACTS SO WE CAN END SOME OF THE TRICKERY.
09:45:55 UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESSES NEED
09:45:57 BUSINESS, SO MANY ARE NOT GOING TO TURN DOWN AN EFFORT
09:46:01 TO WORK WITH A LARGER COMPANY, BUT THEY ARE ONLY ON THE
09:46:05 CONTRACT SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE MINORITY DESIGNATION.
09:46:14 THEY ARE NOT THERE FOR ANY COMPETENCY THERE JUST FOR
09:46:15 THE LEGISLATION.
09:46:20 AND THE CITY OF TAMPA DISENFRANCHISED THE BLACK
09:46:20 AMERICANS IN THIS CITY.
09:46:22 THAT WAS THE FIRST STEP.
09:46:24 AND THE SECOND STEP IS TO IMPLEMENT POLICIES TO CORRECT
09:46:28 THE WRONG AND I THINK ONE THOSE POLICIES CAN BE REALLY
09:46:32 WORKING WITH BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES TO GET MORE OF A
09:46:35 FOOTING IN THE CITY SO WE CAN SEE AN INCREASE IN
09:46:37 BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES WITH CONTRACTS.
09:46:39 THANK YOU.
09:46:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU SAY A PH.D.?
09:46:43 >> JD.
09:46:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:46:45 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
09:46:47 GOOD, VERY GOOD.
09:46:51 >> THE UNIVERSITY COLLEGE CLASS OF 2005.
09:46:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
09:46:58 IF WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:47:06 IF ANYBODY ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK THERE IN THE AUDIENCE,
09:47:08 PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE LECTERN.
09:47:22 THERE WE GO.
09:47:25 >> CAN CITY COUNCIL -- THIS IS JOE ROBINSON.
09:47:28 CAN CITY COUNCIL SEE WHAT IS ON THE ELMO BEFORE I
09:47:28 START?
09:47:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE TO HEAR
09:47:33 CLEARLY.
09:47:35 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
09:47:40 I CAN OVERTALK EVERYBODY TALKING, DON'T WORRY ABOUT
09:47:41 THAT.
09:47:44 JOE ROBINSON TO SPEAK ABOUT -- SINCE NO COMMENTS AT THE
09:47:44 WORKSHOP.
09:47:45 LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
09:47:51 I REVIEWED THE MNTB REPORT AND, HERE IS THE LITTLE
09:47:55 THING ABOUT IT SINCE I DON'T HAVE TIME IN THE WORKSHOP
09:47:59 TO -- UNLESS CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO ASK ME A QUESTION.
09:48:02 I WILL HANG AROUND IF YOU WANT TO ASK ME A QUESTION,
09:48:07 60,000-PAGE -- A GOOD 30-FOOT LOOKING DOWN START AND
09:48:10 NEED TO BE A TRANSPARENT AND DIRECTION OF AT LEAST THE
09:48:12 1,000-FOOT LEVEL.
09:48:14 LOOKING WAY UP BECAUSE THEY ARE MISSING A LOT OF
09:48:16 DETAILS AND A LOT OF BUNDLING IN THERE.
09:48:18 YOU PUT ALL THE BLACK BUSINESSES IN ONE THING.
09:48:19 CALL THEM BLACK BUSINESSES.
09:48:24 THAT IS NOT THE WAY YOU DEAL WITH AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
09:48:26 OR DEAL WITH DISPARITY.
09:48:28 THE DATA IS STALE.
09:48:30 WHY IS IT STALE?
09:48:34 IT IS PRECOVID-19.
09:48:38 MOST CURRENT DATA.
09:48:42 OCTOBER 1, 2018 TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2019.
09:48:48 WHERE IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2020?
09:48:54 THIS IS FEBRUARY -- JANUARY 28, 2021.
09:48:56 WHERE IS THAT COVID DATA?
09:48:59 A WHOLE YEAR OF DATA TAKES THAT LONG TO GET IT?
09:48:59 SOMETHING IS WRONG.
09:49:04 THE DAY IS BUNDLING ALL SERVICES BY RACE, GENDER WHICH
09:49:06 OVERLOOKS TWO THINGS.
09:49:09 ARE BUSINESS CATEGORIES GETTING THEIR READY, WILLING
09:49:10 AND ABLE SHARE.
09:49:12 HARD TO DETERMINE WHEN IT IS BUNDLED.
09:49:16 ALSO IT GIVES AN APPEARANCE OF RACE AND GENDER ARE
09:49:17 DOING GOOD.
09:49:22 SINCE THEY ARE SHOWING TOTAL DOLLARS NOT AT 1,000-FOOT
09:49:25 LEVEL BUT AT A 30,000-FOOT LEVEL WHICH MAKE THEM
09:49:27 BASICALLY DATA CLOUDY.
09:49:31 THEY EVEN PUT FOOTNOTES THAT SAY SO.
09:49:33 READ YOUR FOOTNOTES.
09:49:37 THE AUDIT DOCUMENT IS ONE PAGE, REALLY?
09:49:41 I DID NOT SEE MY COMPANY'S CONCERNS OR THE DOCUMENT
09:49:41 COMPLAINTS.
09:49:45 THE COMPLAINT FORM IS OUT-OF-DATE AND REPRESENTS A 2008
09:49:48 ORDINANCE THAT THEY PUT IN THERE DECEMBER 20.
09:49:49 LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN.
09:49:51 HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE OTHER RECORD THE DEPARTMENT
09:49:53 MAKES BECAUSE NOBODY IS LOOKING AT ANYTHING.
09:49:59 DO YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS RHC AND MY CONSULTING ENGINEER
09:50:05 FIRM AND SAYS CURRENT CONTRACT VALUE.
09:50:10 $1,085,454.
09:50:12 IF I HAD A CONTRACT LIKE THAT WITH THE CITY, I WOULD
09:50:17 BUY EVERYBODY UP THERE SUPER BOWL TICKET INCLUDING THE
09:50:18 MAN EVERYTHING.
09:50:19 THIS IS ERRONEOUS.
09:50:21 HOW DID THAT GET THERE?
09:50:25 THIS HAS BEEN HERE -- IT CAUSES MY COMPANY TO NOT GET
09:50:29 ANY OTHER WORK BECAUSE IT SAYS WE HAVE PLENTY OF WORK.
09:50:30 NOT TRUE.
09:50:33 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE DETAIL NOT BEING ADHERED TOO
09:50:36 WITH THAT DMI SYSTEM.
09:50:36 THERE ARE PROBLEMS.
09:50:39 BUT THEY ARE DOING GOOD OVERALL BECAUSE I CALL FOR THEM
09:50:41 TO BE FIRED.
09:50:43 I TELL IT LIKE IT IS.
09:50:45 I ASK FOR THEM TO BE FIRED AND START OVER.
09:50:50 I AM BEING COMPASSIONATE WEARING A BUCCANEER SUPER BOWL
09:50:50 THING.
09:50:53 IF THEY DON'T GET IT STRAIGHT AND LISTEN SOMEBODY DOING
09:50:55 BUSINESS WITH THE CITY FOR 30 YEARS, THE PERSON THAT
09:50:58 WILL FILE THE LAWSUIT, THE PERSON THAT WILL RAISE THE
09:51:01 HELL, THEN, YOU KNOW, I AM GOING TO DO WHAT I GOT TO
09:51:02 DO.
09:51:04 PUTTING THIS ON MY RECORD FOR $1 MILLION IS ERRONEOUS
09:51:09 AND NEEDS CORRECTED.
09:51:12 THAT IS THE KIND OF PROBLEMS.
09:51:14 I WANT TO LET IT BE KNOWN IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU
09:51:17 ARE LOOKING AT THEY CAN BAMBOOZLE YOU.
09:51:19 THEY ARE DOING A DECENT JOB.
09:51:21 THEY ARE TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT BUT WE ARE NOT THERE.
09:51:24 HOPEFULLY THIS SUMMER -- THE NEXT FEW MONTHS THEY HAVE
09:51:26 TOWN LAL MEETINGS ABOUT THIS REPORT.
09:51:29 THEY HAVE OUTREACH AND INCLUDE YOUR NAACP.
09:51:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:51:34 >> PLEASE INCLUDE THE NAACP.
09:51:35 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:51:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:51:39 I BELIEVE THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER IN THE PUBLIC.
09:51:42 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK?
09:51:44 MADAM CLERK?
09:51:48 >>CLERK: YES, SIR, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS A JACOB
09:51:48 KRAMER.
09:51:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:51:52 AND TYLER HUDSON, CORRECT?
09:51:54 >>CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT.
09:51:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. KRAMER, IF YOU WERE ON THE
09:51:57 LINE --
09:52:04 >> I AM JAY KRAMER.
09:52:06 IT MIGHT BE EASIER IF HE GOES FIRST, AND I COMMENT
09:52:08 AFTERWARDS.
09:52:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HUDSON, YOU GO FIRST AND GO
09:52:13 BACK TO MR. KRAMER.
09:52:17 >> GOOD MORNING, TYLER HUDSON, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE.
09:52:21 I THOUGHT I WOULD BE BATTING CLEANUP AFTER LACHONE AND
09:52:25 I WILL MAKE MY COMMENTS BRIEF.
09:52:28 WE PROVIDE THIS PRIVATE INITIATED AMENDMENT BACK IN
09:52:34 JULY TO LOWER THE PD A ELIGIBILITY DOWN FROM THE 50
09:52:37 ACRES IT IS CURRENTLY ABOUT.
09:52:42 LACHONE'S PRESENTATION IS THOROUGH, AND I WILL LET THEM
09:52:43 GO THROUGH THAT.
09:52:44 WE HAD A WORKSHOP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION A COUPLE
09:52:45 OF WEEKS AGO.
09:52:47 WHILE SHE WILL GET THROUGH THE WHAT, I WOULD LIKE TO
09:52:51 GIVE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WHY AND WHAT MOTIVATED
09:52:52 THIS.
09:52:57 LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT OPEN OVERNIGHT.
09:53:00 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT, THE
09:53:00 HEIGHTS.
09:53:04 THEY TAKE TIME TO DEVELOP AND DEVELOPMENT IN INCREMENTS
09:53:07 AND PHASES AND DEVELOP GRADUALLY BECAUSE OVER 50 ACRES
09:53:10 AND ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MORE FLEXIBLE
09:53:15 ZONING, CALMED THE PDA, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
09:53:16 ALTERNATIVE.
09:53:18 YOU SEE A LOT OF PD.
09:53:22 MY FIRM AND JAY'S FIRM BRING A LOT TO YOU.
09:53:26 AND IT ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPER TO FLEXIBLY DEVELOP
09:53:31 OVER TIME BY TAKING IN CERTAIN USES, UPWARD LIMITS BUT
09:53:34 NOT EXACTLY SHOWING YOU WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TRASH
09:53:36 COMPACTORS WILL BE FOR A PIECE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT
09:53:38 MAY NOT HAPPEN FOR FIVE YEARS.
09:53:43 AND AS TAMPA DEVELOPMENTS -- AS LACHONE WILL NOTE IN
09:53:43 HER PRESENTATION.
09:53:48 FEWER AND FEWER 50 ACRE PARCELS LEFT IN THE CITY AND IF
09:53:51 YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE EXCITING DEVELOPMENT
09:53:54 OPPORTUNITIES IN PROXIMITY TO THE URBAN CORE AND DARYL
09:53:57 SHAW'S PROJECT IN YBOR CITY THAT I AM WORKING ON AND HE
09:54:02 HAS SPOKEN WITH SOME OF YOU ABOUT, THE RIVER PROJECT
09:54:05 AND JAY IS WORKING ON.
09:54:08 AND -- 50 ACRE, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO
09:54:09 DEVELOP IT.
09:54:13 SO WE THINK THAT MAKING PROJECTS LIKE THAT AND OTHER
09:54:16 PROJECTS ARE 10 ACRES OR MORE THROUGHOUT THE CITY
09:54:19 ELIGIBLE FOR IN PDA WILL REALLY GIVE DEVELOPERS AN
09:54:24 OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP IN A PATIENT AND TIMELY WAY.
09:54:28 I THOUGHT ABOUT TRYING TO GET A GOOD METAPHOR FOR THIS
09:54:30 AND I STRUGGLED.
09:54:33 LIKE TRYING TO DRESS -- FOR 20-ACRE PROJECT TO GO
09:54:37 THROUGH THE PD PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE GETTING
09:54:39 DRESSED WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE WEATHER IS AND WITHOUT
09:54:41 KNOWING WHAT CITY YOU ARE IN.
09:54:44 IT IS JUST VERY DIFFICULT TO GET AS SPECIFIC AS THE PD
09:54:45 REQUIRES.
09:54:47 AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR SUPPORT.
09:54:48 THANK YOU.
09:54:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:51 MR. KRAMER?
09:54:52 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:54:54 I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF.
09:54:58 IF YOU WILL EXCUSE THE MELODRAMA HERE, THE PDA PROCESS
09:55:02 IS ONE OF THE UNSUNG HEROES OF REDEVELOPMENT IN THE
09:55:03 CITY OF TAMPA.
09:55:06 FRANKLY I HAVE BEEN BEGGING SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS
09:55:10 HERE IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA TO ADOPT THE SIMILAR
09:55:10 PROCESS.
09:55:14 AND THE REASON WHY, IT REALLY ALLOWS COUNSEL TO SET THE
09:55:18 LONG-TERM POLICY DIRECTION FOR THESE BIG -- THESE BIG
09:55:20 PROJECTS WITH LONG-TERM BUILD-OUT.
09:55:23 AND THERE IS REALLY JUST NO WAY WITH THE LARGE PROJECTS
09:55:27 THAT DEVELOPERS CAN COMMIT TO SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW,
09:55:31 EXTREME DETAILS THAT TYLER WAS TALKING ABOUT.
09:55:36 YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU I WORK WITH MY PARTNER VIN
09:55:40 MARCHETTI AT THE WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT, AND WE
09:55:44 WOULD NOT GET THAT PROJECT OFF THE GROUND WITHOUT BEING
09:55:47 ABLE TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH STAFF AND THE PD A
09:55:47 PROCESS.
09:55:51 OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY LIKE THE ENCORE PROJECT
09:55:53 WOULD HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS.
09:55:55 I CAN TELL YOU SOME THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM WEST
09:55:57 RIVER WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PROCESS.
09:56:00 SO WITH THAT, WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
09:56:05 A GREAT TOUR AND ALLOWS YOUR STAFF TO SHINE.
09:56:07 I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS AS WELL.
09:56:08 THANK YOU.
09:56:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:11 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:56:15 I KNOW IT GOES INTO ITEM NUMBER 2, BUT BEFORE WE
09:56:18 CONTINUE, BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE
09:56:20 PUBLIC COMMENT SET-UP?
09:56:22 I THINK IT WORKED OUT WELL.
09:56:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
09:56:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT WORKED OUT VERY WELL.
09:56:30 PRETTY SMOOTH.
09:56:33 HAVING GONE INTO ITEM 2.
09:56:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR.
09:56:35 YOU ASKED A QUESTION.
09:56:39 I DIDN'T -- I THINK WENT VERY WELL.
09:56:40 VOLUME IS A KEY.
09:56:42 VOLUME NEEDS TO BE RAISED UP AT LEAST IN THIS ROOM.
09:56:43 SO MY TWO CENTS.
09:56:48 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:56:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:50 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:56:52 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO SAY --
09:56:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN YOUR MIC ON.
09:56:58 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL AND YOUR OFFICE,
09:57:01 MR. CHAIR AND LISA AND ALL OF YOUR STAFF AND HARD WORK
09:57:02 FOR THIS ISSUE.
09:57:03 THANK YOU.
09:57:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD.
09:57:06 WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:57:11 WE HAVE MISS FEELEY ON THE LINE AND LACHONE AS WELL.
09:57:14 IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD.
09:57:17 >>LACHONE DOCK: CAN YOU HEAR ME, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
09:57:17 COUNCIL?
09:57:23 THIS IS LACHONE DOCK WITH PLANNING AND GROWTH
09:57:24 MANAGEMENT.
09:57:28 I HAVE ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
09:57:31 I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEM NUMBER 2, A PRIVATELY
09:57:34 INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
09:57:35 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:57:40 THIS IS -- COUNCIL, AS A POINT OF ORDER, THIS IS A TIME
09:57:43 CERTAIN ITEM FOR 10 A.M. AND WE ARE A FEW MINUTES
09:57:44 BEFORE THAT.
09:57:47 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH THAT AS
09:57:56 WE MOVE FORWARD.
09:57:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:58:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN -- I AM LOOKING AT THE
09:58:06 AGENDA, AND I DON'T SEE ANY SPECIFIC TIME ATTACHED TO
09:58:06 IT.
09:58:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU DON'T SEE A SPECIFIC TIME?
09:58:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SPECIFIC TIME.
09:58:13 MISS FEELEY.
09:58:16 I THOUGHT SHE SAID 10 A.M.
09:58:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST ITEM NUMBER 2 AND IT IS -- IT
09:58:24 IS 9:58.
09:58:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WE ARE FINE GOING FORWARD,
09:58:27 MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:58:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING ON THE AGENDA THAT
09:58:31 SPECIFIES A TIME FOR ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:58:34 MOVING FORWARD WITH THREE AND BEYOND, IT SAYS 10 A.M.
09:58:36 THREE AND FOUR SAYS 10 A.M.
09:58:39 GO AHEAD, MISS FEELEY.
09:58:41 OR LACHONE.
09:58:44 >>LACHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:58:47 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
09:58:51 TEXT AMENDMENT PART OF THE JULY 2020 AMENDMENT CYCLE.
09:58:53 THE APPLICANT IS TYLER HUDSON.
09:58:56 THIS IS WHAT YOU JUST HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT ON FROM
09:58:56 TYLER.
09:59:05 THIS REFLECTS TO AMEND 27-227 OF REQUIREMENT FOR
09:59:07 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE.
09:59:09 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
09:59:12 SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW, FIRST, COUNCIL IS THE
09:59:13 REQUEST ITSELF.
09:59:18 THE REQUEST IS TO REMOVE THE FIVE-YEAR TIME FRAME FOR
09:59:22 INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO TO REVIEW PDA REQUIRED
09:59:25 ACRES FROM 50 TO 20.
09:59:28 AND AS A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC NOTICE AT THE
09:59:30 TIME OF INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW.
09:59:33 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:59:36 STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND MADE THE
09:59:42 FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS, THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
09:59:46 WE RECEIVED A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT --
09:59:49 >> MR. CHAIRMAN --
09:59:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT.
09:59:57 >> WE REALLY CAN'T HEAR YOU GUYS.
09:59:59 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE FAR -- WE JUST CAN'T HEAR WHAT
10:00:01 YOU ARE SAYING.
10:00:02 MAYBE YOU NEED TO GET CLOSER.
10:00:03 >>LACHONE DOCK: I AM SORRY?
10:00:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU VERY WELL.
10:00:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU AT ALL AND YOU GUYS
10:00:08 ARE SO FAR AWAY.
10:00:13 YOU NEED TO GET CLOSER SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:00:15 >>LACHONE DOCK: I APOLOGIZE.
10:00:19 CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER?
10:00:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION SO WE NEED
10:00:23 TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
10:00:24 >>LACHONE DOCK: I AM SORRY.
10:00:27 YOU HEAR ME BETTER NOW?
10:00:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, NOT REALLY.
10:00:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL GO WITH YOU.
10:00:34 IT'S ALL WE CAN DO.
10:00:36 >>LACHONE DOCK: OKAY.
10:00:38 IS THIS ANY BETTER?
10:00:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD AND WE WILL TRY BEAR WITH IT
10:00:41 TODAY.
10:00:43 OKAY, THANK YOU.
10:00:44 >>LACHONE DOCK: OKAY.
10:00:45 I APOLOGIZE.
10:00:46 I WILL TRY TO SPEAK UP.
10:00:52 SO STAFF PROPOSES CHANGES TO THE CODE SECTION AND THE
10:00:54 DEPARTMENT NAMES IS LISTED WITHIN THE CODE SECTION.
10:01:00 WE ARE REMOVING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HARD COPY SITE
10:01:04 PLAN AND WE HAVE ALSO ADDED THE WORD "APPLICANT" TO THE
10:01:09 LANGUAGE TO ENSURE CLARIFICATION AND CONSISTENCY IN
10:01:13 RELATION TO PLAN PROCESS IN THAT SECTION OF THE CODE.
10:01:16 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:01:20 AND HERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT STAFF HAVE
10:01:22 REQUESTED AND RECOMMENDED FOR THIS LANGUAGE TO MOVE
10:01:23 FORWARD.
10:01:27 THE FIRST IS TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED ACREAGE FROM 50 TO
10:01:29 20.
10:01:33 AND COUNCIL, THE REASONS STAFF FELT THIS CHANGE WAS
10:01:36 NECESSARY IS, ONE, IT PROMOTES FLEXIBILITY FOR LARGER
10:01:38 SCALE PROJECTS AND PROPERTIES.
10:01:41 THIS IS SOME OF WHAT TYLER HAD EXPLAINED IN HIS
10:01:45 COMMENTS, BUT EVEN WHEN YOUR SITE PLANNING 20 ACRES, IT
10:01:46 IS DIFFICULT.
10:01:49 THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN UTILIZING THAT HYBRID APPROACH
10:01:52 WITH THE PD, WITH THE INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN FOR THE
10:01:56 LARGER SCALE PROJECTS SUCH AS MIDTOWN AND ENCORE.
10:01:58 THOSE ARE MULTIFACETED PROJECTS.
10:02:01 THEY DO NOT MEET THE 50-ACRE REQUIREMENT.
10:02:07 SO THEY ARE SUBMITTING -- AS A PD, SUBMITTING IT.
10:02:10 AND MOST RECENT PDA APPLICATION THAT'S WILL COME BEFORE
10:02:14 COUNCIL WOULD HAVE BEEN THE HEIGHTS BACK IN 2013, K-BAR
10:02:16 RANCH OF 2015.
10:02:20 THE NEXT CHANGE PROPOSED WAS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS
10:02:23 TO PROVIDE PUBLIC NOTICE AT THE TIME OF INCREMENTAL
10:02:24 SITE PLAN REVIEW.
10:02:29 SO PUBLIC NOTICE CURRENTLY IS NOT REQUIRED BY CODE FOR
10:02:31 INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW.
10:02:34 TO ADDS THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL IMPACT
10:02:38 TO STAFF RESOURCES, ADDITIONAL COST TO THE APPLICANT,
10:02:41 AND CREATE CONFUSION FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:02:44 THIS WOULD NOT INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY IN THE PROCESS.
10:02:48 ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL IS THAT A PDA
10:02:50 COMES BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
10:02:54 AFTER THAT PDA HAS BEEN APPROVED, THE APPLICANT THEN
10:02:58 COMES IN FOR INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW AS THESE
10:03:02 ENTITLEMENTS ARE PERMITTED.
10:03:07 SO THEY ARE PROVIDED FURTHER NOTICE AT THE TIME OF PDA
10:03:10 AND HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND PROVIDE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR
10:03:12 EACH INCREMENTAL REVIEW.
10:03:16 ON LARGE PROJECT, WE COULD HAVE THREE OR FOUR
10:03:19 SUBMITTALS FOR INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW.
10:03:22 THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDED PUBLIC NOTICE EACH AND
10:03:25 EVERY TIME FOR A PROJECT APPROVED IN THE ORIGINAL PDA.
10:03:29 AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:03:33 WHAT I PROVIDED COUNCIL IS A CHART THAT JUST SHOWS THE
10:03:38 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THE PDA PROCESS.
10:03:39 JUST AN OVERVIEW.
10:03:43 SO FOR THE PD ON THE LEFT IS FOR PARCELS UP TO 50
10:03:44 ACRES.
10:03:46 A DETAILED SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED.
10:03:48 CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL IS REQUIRED.
10:03:50 AND THEN THEY MOVE TO PERMITTING.
10:03:53 THE PD A ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IT IS FOR PARCELS OVER 50
10:03:58 ACRES, A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED AND A SITE
10:04:01 PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES THE OVERALL BOUNDARY.
10:04:06 AND IT LISTS THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN
10:04:11 THAT OVERALL BOUNDARY AND THAT IS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
10:04:13 THAT REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
10:04:16 AND FROM THERE AS THEY ARE READY TO PERMIT THE SITE AND
10:04:23 THEY COME IN OF THEIR ENTITLEMENTS FOR INCREMENTAL SITE
10:04:26 PLAN REVIEW WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW WHICH
10:04:28 MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL PD A WHICH HAS BEEN
10:04:29 APPROVED.
10:04:31 THEN THEY MOVE TO PERMITTING.
10:04:33 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:04:37 THIS IS THAT SAME CHART THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED
10:04:37 CHANGES.
10:04:41 THIS IS THE PARCEL UP TO 20 ACRES ON THE LEFT FOR THE
10:04:42 PD.
10:04:46 AND THE PDA WOULD CHANGE AND IT WOULD BE FOR PARCELS
10:04:49 THAT ARE OVER 20 ACRES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PDA
10:04:59 REQUIRED.
10:05:00 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:05:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
10:05:03 HAS A QUESTION.
10:05:05 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:05:06 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10:05:09 MAKE SURE YOU ARE UNMUTED.
10:05:12 YOU ARE MUTED.
10:05:18 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:05:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE STILL MUTED, DINGFELDER.
10:05:37 WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
10:05:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
10:05:55 STILL MUTED.
10:06:10 OKAY, WE WILL COME TO BACK TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:06:11 I APOLOGIZE.
10:06:17 LACHONE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE.
10:06:21 >>LACHONE DOCK: OKAY, COUNCIL, THANK YOU.
10:06:24 THE NEXT SLIDE LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND THE
10:06:27 NUMBER OF VACANT PARCELS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:06:30 WHAT WE DID IS TAKE THE CHART WE HAVE BEFORE YOU AND
10:06:31 PUT THESE NUMBERS IN.
10:06:35 WE HAVE ON THE LEFT SIDE PARCEL 5, AND ON THE RIGHT
10:06:37 SIDE IN THE BLUE ARE THE NUMBER OF PARCELS.
10:06:46 SO CITYWIDE YOU CAN SEE, IT IS JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE
10:06:51 THIS REQUEST AND THE PARCELS FOR THE PDA UPON THIS CODE
10:06:54 AMENDMENT A TOTAL OF 291 PARCELS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE
10:07:01 WHEN STAFF REVIEWED THIS DATA WE FELT THIS WAS MINIMAL
10:07:02 TO THIS REQUEST.
10:07:07 WHAT WE DID IS BROKE THE DATA UP BY FOWLER AVENUE AS
10:07:10 THE BOUNDARY TO SEPARATE NORTH AND SOUTH, JUST BECAUSE
10:07:14 THE THOUGHT PROCESSES THERE WERE MORE VACANT PARCELS
10:07:18 LOCATED NORTHEAST SECTION OF THE CITY MORE SO THAN
10:07:20 CENTRAL TO THE CITY THAT YOU CAN SEE BY THE DATA
10:07:21 PROVIDED.
10:07:25 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:07:28 SO WE HAVE OUR STAFF FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:07:31 SO ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT THE
10:07:35 PDA IS NOT A EUCLIDIAN ZONING DISTRICT.
10:07:38 IT DOES NOT GET ASSIGNED TO PROPERTIES WITHOUT AN
10:07:41 APPLICATION AND AN ASSOCIATED PUBLIC HEARING AND CITY
10:07:42 COUNCIL APPROVAL.
10:07:45 THIS AMENDMENT WAS BROUGHT AT THE CITY DEPARTMENTAL
10:07:48 REVIEW AND RECEIVED NO OBJECTIONS.
10:07:50 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION SUPPORTS THIS REQUEST AND
10:07:53 FINDS THAT IT ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE
10:07:57 REVIEWS, NONSUBSTANTIAL CHANGES FOR PROJECT DESIGN
10:08:00 CHANGES THAT TYPICALLY OCCUR AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
10:08:03 THIS ALSO ALLOWS INCREASED FLEXIBILITY IN DEVELOPING
10:08:06 LARGER PARCELS.
10:08:10 ALSO, COUNCIL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE
10:08:13 REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
10:08:14 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:08:17 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:08:21 THE NEXT STEPS IS WE HAVE THIS ITEM FOR CITY COUNCIL
10:08:25 FIRST READING FEBRUARY 4 AND SECOND READING ON FEBRUARY
10:08:26 18.
10:08:28 THE SECOND READING AND FINAL ADOPTION.
10:08:34 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:08:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, HAVE THEY
10:08:42 FIXED YOUR TECHNICAL -- NO?
10:08:45 WE CAN'T HEAR YOU AND YOU ARE UNMUTED ON YOUR END.
10:08:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
10:08:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.
10:08:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A TECHNICAL ISSUE.
10:08:55 I WAS OKAY AND I HAD TO GO BACK OUT AND COME BACK IN.
10:08:58 ANYWAY, ALL RIGHT, WE ARE ALL GOOD.
10:09:02 LACHONE, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THIS, AND I AGREE
10:09:05 WITH THE 50 DOWN TO 20 ACRES, BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS
10:09:10 WITH REGARDS TO NOTICE AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
10:09:14 YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
10:09:17 COMMUNITY HAVE SORT OF BEEN REQUESTING AND SOMETIMES
10:09:21 CLAMORING FOR MORE INVOLVEMENT AND I RECOGNIZE THAT
10:09:26 TRADITIONALLY IN THE PDA -- ONE THE PDA WAS APPROVED WE
10:09:32 REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF COMMUNITY OR COUNCIL
10:09:32 INVOLVEMENT.
10:09:45 BUT WHAT I WONDER ABOUT IS, AND TYLER, YOU CAN AS THE
10:09:50 PROCESS GOES ALONG AND MAJOR DECISIONS BEING MADE AT
10:09:53 THE, QUOTE, ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL THAT PERHAPS NOTICE TO
10:09:57 THE COMMUNITY MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE AND FEEDBACK FROM
10:10:05 THE COMMUNITY TO THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE VARIOUS --
10:10:10 YOU KNOW CHANGES MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
10:10:11 IF YOU FOLLOW ME.
10:10:16 AND I AM NOT -- I AM NOT SAYING THAT -- THAT IT WOULD
10:10:19 COME BACK TO COUNCIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:10:27 BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS SOMETIMES IT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA
10:10:30 INSTEAD OF STAFF MAKING THESE DECISIONS IN A VACUUM IF
10:10:33 THEY SAY -- INSTEAD OF COMMERCIAL, WE WILL GO OFFICE.
10:10:35 INSTEAD OF OFFICE, WE WILL GO RESIDENTIAL.
10:10:40 YOU KNOW, FOR 1,000 UNITS ON THIS PROJECT, MAYBE A
10:10:44 LITTLE COMMUNITY INPUT WOULDN'T BE A BAD THING.
10:10:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:10:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS MY THOUGHT.
10:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE.
10:10:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS MY THOUGHT AS WELL.
10:10:54 HAVE WE BROUGHT THIS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT
10:10:59 THE COMMUNITIES THINK ABOUT THIS AT ALL, LACHONE.
10:11:02 >>LACHONE DOCK: NO, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:11:04 THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY.
10:11:07 WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
10:11:13 ANY TEXT AMENDMENT COMES FORWARD IS FULLY NOTIFIED.
10:11:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW WAS IT NOTICED?
10:11:16 I KNOW WE NOTICE THINGS.
10:11:18 BUT WHAT WAS THE INVOLVEMENT?
10:11:21 DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION KNOW -- NOTICES OUT.
10:11:24 SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NOTICE REALLY IS
10:11:25 AND GOES INTO COMMUNICATION AGAIN.
10:11:28 PEOPLE CAN SEE THINGS BUT NOT READ WITH UNDERSTANDING.
10:11:31 I HAD ANOTHER COMMUNITY GROUP CALL ME ABOUT A ZONING --
10:11:34 THEY HAD -- GOT THE NOTICE AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
10:11:37 HOW WAS THE COMMUNICATION GETTING OUT TO THE PEOPLE SO
10:11:40 THEY KNOW WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON BECAUSE IF I VOTE FOR
10:11:42 SOMETHING AND THEY -- WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR THAT.
10:11:44 WELL, I THOUGHT THE COMMUNITY WAS IN FAVOR OF THAT.
10:11:47 I NEED TO KNOW HOW -- REALLY HOW ARE THEY COMMUNICATED
10:11:50 TO, JUST BY NOTICE?
10:11:55 >>LACHONE DOCK: WE ACTUALLY -- POST IT ON OUR WEB
10:11:55 SITE.
10:11:59 WE ALSO HAVE A MONTHLY TAMPA CARES NEWSLETTER THAT GOES
10:12:00 OUT.
10:12:06 YOU KNOW THAT AS THE HARD COPY NEWS LETTER THAT WE SEND
10:12:09 TO ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THEY RECEIVE THE
10:12:12 NOTIFICATION BY MAIL THROUGH THAT NEWSLETTER.
10:12:14 WE HAVE -- A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ACTIVE AND
10:12:15 THEY ARE INVOLVED.
10:12:17 THEY RECEIVE THAT NOTIFICATION.
10:12:20 ANY TIME THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY CONTACT OUR OFFICE.
10:12:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THING TEXT AMENDMENT IS GEARED UP FOR
10:12:24 THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
10:12:28 AND THAT'S WHY -- I BELIEVE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS
10:12:31 REALLY BEING GEARED UP FOR THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
10:12:34 AND I THINK FOR ME -- FOR ME TO REALLY BE VOTING ON
10:12:36 SOMETHING I NEED TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE
10:12:38 COMMUNITIES KNOW WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING PREPARED
10:12:40 TO DO IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.
10:12:43 BECAUSE FOR ME, THIS IS WHAT I CALL A PLAN PROCESS.
10:12:46 AND I THINK IT IS GETTING GEARED UP TO BRING
10:12:49 DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST SIDE, THE NORTHEAST AND THE
10:12:50 SOUTHEAST OF MY DISTRICT.
10:12:53 AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FOLKS IN THOSE AREAS
10:12:57 ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL MAY BE POSSIBLY
10:12:59 GETTING READY TO DO.
10:13:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:03 >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS CATE WELLS.
10:13:05 IF I CAN ADDRESS THE COMMENT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
10:13:09 I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
10:13:13 AMENDMENT AND ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY HAVE ENGAGED IN
10:13:16 THAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATION.
10:13:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: JAY OR TYLER, IS THAT -- HOW WAS --
10:13:22 >> I WILL TAKE THIS.
10:13:24 CAN YOU ALL HERE ME?
10:13:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:13:26 >> OKAY.
10:13:27 GREAT.
10:13:32 SO COUNCILMAN GUDES, I AM A RESIDENT OF YOUR DISTRICT.
10:13:34 AND THIS -- PROJECT IS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND THROUGHOUT
10:13:35 THE CITY.
10:13:38 I WOULD LOVE THE CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND CHAT A
10:13:41 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS -- THIS PROJECT IS -- THIS
10:13:46 AMENDMENT WAS NOT INITIATED WITH RESPECTS SPECIFICALLY
10:13:50 TO ANYTHING ON THE EAST SIDE OF TAMPA.
10:13:53 THIS INITIATED MOSTLY FOR THE PROJECT THAT I THINK
10:13:55 DARYL SHAW HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH SOME OF YOU ABOUT
10:13:59 IN YBOR CITY.
10:14:02 TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MADE AND
10:14:05 DINGFELDER YOU DISCUSSED THIS REMEMBER BEFORE I FILED
10:14:05 THIS AMENDMENT.
10:14:09 THE CHANGES THAT ARE APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL --
10:14:12 THAT INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED, IN MY
10:14:16 VIEW, THAT IS MORE AKIN TO A PERMITTING TYPE PROCESS.
10:14:20 AND RIGHT NOW, THERE IS REALLY NO PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IN
10:14:22 PERMITTING PROCESS.
10:14:27 THE DOCUMENT ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, BUT THE PDA THAT
10:14:30 YOU ALL WILL REVIEW FOR A PROJECT THAT IS ABLE TO TAKE
10:14:33 ADVANTAGE OF THIS, THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO HAVE AMPLE
10:14:35 OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
10:14:38 BECAUSE THE PDA PLAN IS GOING TO INCLUDE THE MAXIMUM
10:14:40 DENSE TV THE BUILDINGS.
10:14:42 THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
10:14:43 WHAT THE USES ARE.
10:14:45 ARE THERE ANY WAIVERS.
10:14:49 AND YOU, AS COUNCIL, WILL HAVE DISCRETION TO APPROVE
10:14:50 AND DENY THOSE PROJECTS.
10:14:53 BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO ALLOW PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING
10:14:58 TO TAKE TIME TO DEVELOP TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY
10:15:02 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF YOU WERE DEVELOPING A 20-ACRE OR
10:15:06 30-ACRE PROJECT, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE TRASH
10:15:09 COMPACTOR IS GOING TO BE, HOW TO GET TO THE TRASH
10:15:13 COMPACTOR AND WHERE THE BEFORE OR SCREENING WILL GO --
10:15:16 BUFFER OR SCREENING WILL GO.
10:15:20 AND WE ARE RIGHT BACK BEFORE YOU FOR CITY COUNCIL AND
10:15:25 GOOD FOR CIVIL ENGINEERS AND LAND USE LAWYERS, BUT NOT
10:15:28 GOOD DEVELOPMENT WHEN THERE IS A GREAT TOOL LIKE THE
10:15:30 PDA AVAILABLE.
10:15:33 WE WANT TO MAKE IT A BIT MORE BROADLY AVAILABLE.
10:15:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I SEE YOUR
10:15:37 HAND UP.
10:15:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:15:41 TYLER, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, I DON'T HAVE A
10:15:45 PROBLEM REDUCING THE ACREAGE FROM 50 UNITS TO 20 UNITS.
10:15:48 BUT MY QUESTION IS REGARDING TO THE INCREMENTAL REVIEW.
10:15:55 GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE -- LACHONE OR ABBYE, GIVE ME AN
10:16:00 EXAMPLE OF A TYPICAL REVIEW ON THE PDA.
10:16:04 I KNOW IN THE PAST THE PDAS HAVE BEEN MASSIVE PROJECTS
10:16:06 IN NEW TAMPA.
10:16:10 GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT TYPE OF INCREMENTAL REVIEW
10:16:14 MIGHT MR. SHAW BE UNDERGOING OR, YOU KNOW -- SO
10:16:17 INITIALLY IN YEAR ONE HE GETS THE PDA.
10:16:21 BY YEAR THREE, WHAT SORT OF INCREMENTAL REVIEWS OR
10:16:25 CHANGES MIGHTY BE SEEING?
10:16:27 >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO I WOULD LIKE TO USE THE ENCORE
10:16:29 PROJECT AS AN EXAMPLE.
10:16:32 THE ENCORE PROJECT IS A NINE-BLOCK PROJECT.
10:16:36 VERY UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT DIDN'T RECEIVE FUNDS AND
10:16:40 WAS ABLE TO BUILD ALL OF ITS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THIS IS
10:16:43 -- I BELIEVE THE 28-ACRE RANGE.
10:16:44 SO YOU HAVE NINE BLOCKS.
10:16:49 AND THEN THEY HAVE -- SO A PDA IS NOT ONLY THE
10:16:51 ENTITLEMENTS.
10:16:54 IT IS NOT ONLY THE SETBACKS, IT IS ALSO OTHER DESIGN
10:17:00 CRITERIA THAT GO AHEAD AND TRAVEL WITH THE PROJECT.
10:17:03 SO SOME REFER IT AS A "BUBBLE PLAN."
10:17:07 BUT IT SETS OFF THE BUBBLE AND ASSIGNS THE USES TO
10:17:10 THOSE BUBBLES, AND THEN IT ASSIGNS A SET OF CRITERIA
10:17:14 THAT RUN WITH THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
10:17:20 WHEN THE INCREMENTAL COMES IN, YOU WILL SHOW US ON
10:17:23 BLOCK A, THIS USE IS GOING THERE AND WAS ASSIGNED TO GO
10:17:23 THERE.
10:17:26 YOU MIGHT HAVE A BLOCK A WITH RESIDENTIAL, HOTEL,
10:17:27 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
10:17:32 AND THEN AT THE TIME OF INCREMENTAL, YOU SAY I AM
10:17:37 DRAWING DOWN 300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON BLOCK A.
10:17:39 I AM MEETING THE SETBACKS.
10:17:41 I AM MEETING THE OTHER PARAMETERS.
10:17:44 AND THEN WE ENSURE THAT, YES, YOU ARE.
10:17:48 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS AND THE INTERJECTION OF PUBLIC
10:17:53 NOTICE INTO THAT PROCESS, REALLY THAT PUBLIC NOTICE
10:17:57 HAPPENED AS PART OF THE ADOPTION OF THE PDA AND THE
10:17:59 INPUT HAPPENS THEN.
10:18:04 SO WE CAN'T THEN SAY THE PUBLIC DOESN'T LIKE THE HOTEL
10:18:07 ON BLOCK A BECAUSE THAT ASSIGNMENT OF RIGHTS HAPPENED
10:18:11 AT THE TIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
10:18:12 IN ADDITION TO THAT --
10:18:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE SECOND.
10:18:19 WHAT IF -- WHAT IF THE PETITIONER SAID, I WANT TO ADD
10:18:28 -- I WANT TO SWAP FROM BLOCK A TO BLOCK B, I WANT TO
10:18:32 SWAP THE HOTEL TO THE RESIDENTIAL PLAN.
10:18:35 IS THAT AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE?
10:18:38 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WELL, UNLESS THERE WERE CONDITIONS IN
10:18:41 THE PDA THAT ALLOWED FOR THE SWAPS TO HAPPEN, NO, THEY
10:18:42 COULD NOT DO IT IN INCREMENTAL.
10:18:45 AND IT WOULD -- THE OTHER THING -- THAT IS EXACTLY
10:18:46 WHERE I WAS HEADED.
10:18:49 THE OTHER THING THAT RUNS WITH EACH INCREMENTAL ARE
10:18:52 STILL THOSE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE CRITERIA.
10:18:55 YOU CAN NOT BE DOING YOUR INCREMENTAL AND TRIGGERING A
10:18:57 SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
10:19:00 AND YOU MAY -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE BACK WHEN WE
10:19:04 HAD THAT DISCUSSION ON HARBOUR ISLAND WITH PART OF WHAT
10:19:08 HAD BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE -- WITH THE ICON
10:19:10 RESIDENTIAL TOWER.
10:19:13 YOU KNOW THEY SAID, WELL, THE PARKING WASN'T REVIEWED
10:19:17 -- YES, WE REVIEW NOT ONLY EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE
10:19:21 CONDITIONS OF THE PDA, WE ALSO ARE ENSURING THAT THE
10:19:26 INCREMENT IS NOT TRIPPING A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
10:19:28 THERE ARE TWO LEVELS OF REVIEW.
10:19:31 AND THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SAY THAT
10:19:35 MODIFICATION OR THAT ENTITLEMENT IS BEYOND THE
10:19:40 CONDITIONS OF THE PDA AND YOU MAY EITHER REVISE IT OR
10:19:42 IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
10:19:44 AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:19:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, LAST QUESTION.
10:19:48 >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT IS NOT FREE WILL.
10:19:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LAST QUESTION.
10:19:54 IS THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE LANGUAGE THE SAME IN A PD AS
10:20:04 IT IS A PDA?
10:20:06 >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO ADDITIONS OF USES.
10:20:10 ALL THOSE LINE CRITERIA ALWAYS TRAVEL WITH EACH OF
10:20:11 THOSE INCREMENTS.
10:20:15 YOU CAN NOT CIRCUMVENT THAT BY UTILIZING THIS PROBLEM.
10:20:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WAS INTERESTING.
10:20:23 JUST LAST WEEK IN MR. VIERA'S NECK OF THE WOODS WE HAD
10:20:29 TWO PROJECTS THAT GOT PULLED OUT AND BUSTED OUT OF THE
10:20:33 ORIGINAL PDAS OR THE ORIGINAL PDS AND GOT CHANGED AFTER
10:20:37 20-SOMETHING YEARS AND KIND OF INTERESTING THAT THIS IS
10:20:37 HAPPENING.
10:20:39 MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR
10:20:40 OBJECTIONS.
10:20:48 I DO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN GUDES' QUESTION RELATED TO
10:20:49 NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
10:20:54 I AM NOT SAYING, LACHONE, THAT YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR JOB.
10:20:59 BUT WITH REGARD TO NOTICE, IT USED TO BE THAT FAN WOULD
10:21:02 GET DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THESE TYPE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I
10:21:09 DON'T KNOW HOW -- HOW FUNCTIONAL THAN IS ANYMORE.
10:21:11 SO I DON'T KNOW.
10:21:14 MR. GUDES, DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF TIMING ON
10:21:17 THIS AS RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVEMENT, I WILL
10:21:17 SUPPORT YOU.
10:21:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD LIAISONS.
10:21:26 MR. MCGREGOR -- WE HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD LIAISONS,
10:21:32 JANELLE AND -- I UNDERSTAND IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED
10:21:34 AND I CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THIS IS HEADED.
10:21:37 AND AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNITIES ARE
10:21:39 AWARE MAY BE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
10:21:42 MAY BE 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T
10:21:44 GO BACK AND CHANGE THINGS ONCE YOU HAVE DONE IT.
10:21:48 I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE PRIVATE INITIATED FOLKS --
10:21:52 GET WITH OUR PEOPLE POSSIBLY AND HIRE WHOEVER TO MAKE
10:21:54 SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF THE FUTURE.
10:21:57 THAT WAY WE ARE ON EVEN KEEL.
10:21:59 JUST THE WAY I LOOK AT -- I LIKE NEIGHBORHOODS TO KNOW
10:22:01 WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:22:04 BECAUSE YOU CAN --
10:22:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE GOT A SUGGESTION, MR.
10:22:07 CHAIRMAN.
10:22:11 IF -- IS THIS SCHEDULED FOR FIRST READING TODAY?
10:22:11 >> NO, SIR.
10:22:14 THIS IS ONLY THE WORKSHOP THIS MORNING AND WILL BE
10:22:17 SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 4 FOR FIRST READING.
10:22:21 THE OTHER COMMENT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AND REITERATE
10:22:25 IS THAT NOBODY GETS ASSIGNED A PDA.
10:22:28 THIS IS A CODE CHANGE TODAY THAT CHANGES THE PARAMETERS
10:22:32 OF WHAT THAT ZONING DISTRICT IS, BUT NOBODY -- THAT IS
10:22:34 NOT AN ASSIGNMENT BY RIGHT.
10:22:38 ANYBODY WHO WOULD BE SEEKING TO NOW PARTICIPATE IN A
10:22:40 PDA -- AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO.
10:22:45 THEY WOULD JUST HAVE THE ABILITY OVER 20 ACRES TO DO
10:22:47 THAT WILL INDUSTRIAL TO COME THROUGH A REZONING
10:22:48 PROCESS.
10:22:51 THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS CIRCUMVENTING ANYTHING THERE
10:22:52 EITHER.
10:22:55 ANY CHANGES DO HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND FELL IN
10:22:56 HAVE TO APPLY.
10:23:01 AND THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY YOUR BUBBLE
10:23:04 IS TOO BROAD, IT IS NOT ENOUGH.
10:23:08 YOU KNOW ALL OF THESE THINGS PLAY OUT.
10:23:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AGREE WITH MISS FEELEY WITH
10:23:12 REGARD TO THAT.
10:23:14 MR. HUDSON IS NOT BRINGING A PROJECT TODAY.
10:23:17 JUST BRINGING A PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH I AM
10:23:21 COMFORTABLE WITH; HOWEVER, IN TERMS OF TIMING AND
10:23:27 NOTICE TO IT THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
10:23:30 I WOULD SUGGEST TO MR. HUDSON AND STAFF THAT WE DO
10:23:33 FIRST READING ON THE 4TH AND DO SECOND READING A MONTH
10:23:37 LATER AS OPPOSED TO TWO WEEKS LATER AND DURING THAT
10:23:42 MONTH PERIOD, WE MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER
10:23:45 PLUGGED INTO THIS THAN THEY MIGHT OTHERWISE.
10:23:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:49 COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MR. SHELBY FIRST.
10:23:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE.
10:23:52 JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL.
10:23:54 I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY CONFERENCE WITH THE CLERK.
10:23:59 AND INTERESTINGLY CONSISTENT WITH THE DISCUSSION OF
10:24:01 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:24:04 I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THE PUBLICATION DEADLINES FOR
10:24:07 SECOND READING CANNOT BE ON THE 18TH.
10:24:10 SO THE SECOND READING WITH PUBLICATION WOULD BE
10:24:11 SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 4.
10:24:17 THAT WILL BE THE NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING.
10:24:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:24:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:24:23 THE WAY I READ THIS HAS ENOUGH OF A -- HOW CAN I CALL
10:24:24 IT.
10:24:29 A -- A LEASH ON IT WHERE CITY COUNCIL STILL HAS AN
10:24:31 EXTREME AMOUNTS OF DISCRETION ON WHAT HAPPENS.
10:24:34 YOU KNOW GIVEN THE FACT IT IS COMING BACK US TO
10:24:38 FEBRUARY 4 AND SECOND READING WILL BE IN MARCH, I THINK
10:24:47 THERE IS MORE THAN AMPLE TIME I THINK FOR MR. HUDSON TO
10:24:49 WORK WITH -- JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT
10:24:51 QUASIJUDICIAL, CORRECT?
10:24:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:24:53 THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT.
10:24:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS WHAT IT THOUGHT.
10:25:02 JUST MAKING SURE -- THAT GIVES MORE THAN AMPLE TIME, I
10:25:06 THINK, TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN GUDES' CONCERNS.
10:25:09 AND WHEN -- IF THIS PASSES, IT HAS A LEASH WHERE WE CAN
10:25:12 CONTINUE TO HAVE A HOME ON IT, IN MY OPINION.
10:25:15 THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, ALL LEGITIMATE AND GOOD
10:25:18 FAITH CONCERN SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, BUT I THINK THERE IS
10:25:20 MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO ADDRESS THEM.
10:25:24 AND MR. HUDSON HAS OBVIOUSLY HEARD COUNCILMAN GUDES
10:25:25 'CONCERNS.
10:25:27 AND I AM SURE CAN PROCEED WITH THEM.
10:25:29 I WOULD THINK.
10:25:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOOD, MR. VIERA.
10:25:35 I AM ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL ASK ME THE
10:25:35 QUESTIONS DOWN THE ROAD.
10:25:37 I WANT TO HEAD OUT THE QUESTIONS.
10:25:40 LET'S HEAD THEM OFF AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
10:25:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:25:46 >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU FIND -- MISS FEELEY, WILL
10:25:50 YOU MIND REPEATING US TO ALONG THE LINES OF COUNCILMAN
10:25:54 GUDES CONCERN THE GEOGRAPHIC LIMITATIONS ARE AND IS IT
10:25:57 POSSIBLE TO TIGHTEN IT UP SINCE IT IS REALLY ABOUT ONE
10:25:58 PROJECT?
10:26:00 OR MAYBE TYLER?
10:26:03 >> ABBYE.
10:26:06 IT IS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS FOR ONE PROJECT.
10:26:08 THIS WILL BE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:26:11 AND IN FACT WHEN WE ANALYZE THAT FROM A STAFF
10:26:11 PERSPECTIVE.
10:26:17 WE LOOK AT WESTSHORE, WE LOOK AT -- AND IN COUNCILMAN
10:26:19 VIERA'S DISTRICT AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:26:25 WE LOOK ALSO -- HOW WILL THIS IMPACT AND WHAT PARCELS
10:26:29 AND THIS IS WHY WE GAVE THAT YOU SLIDE AND WHAT IT WILL
10:26:30 REALLY IMPACT.
10:26:33 NOW IT WILL ONLY IMPACT THAT IF THE PARCELS ON THAT
10:26:37 SIZE CHOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN REZONING AND SPOT, SOME
10:26:39 OTHER ENTITLEMENT.
10:26:42 WE KIND OF ANALYZE IT THAT WAY BUT WOULD APPLY
10:26:43 CITYWIDE.
10:26:47 AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS SHOW YOU WHERE IN THE
10:26:49 PAST IT HAD BEEN EXECUTED AND HOW OFTEN.
10:26:55 THIS IS NOT A VERY UTILIZED PLANNING DISTRICT.
10:26:59 IT DOES REALLY TAKE A LARGER SCALE PROJECT AND IN
10:27:03 MIDTOWN, WHICH IS SUCH AN UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE THEY
10:27:06 HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO VERTICAL ON ALMOST EVERY ONE OF
10:27:10 THOSE PARCELS SIMULTANEOUSLY THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
10:27:17 BUT PRIOR TO THAT BEING MIDTOWN, THAT WAS TAMPA, A PDA
10:27:21 BACK IN THE LATE '80S AND EARLY '90S AND SAT THERE FOR
10:27:25 YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND HAD THAT INCREMENTAL ACT.
10:27:27 SO THIS WOULD BE CITY WIDE.
10:27:33 AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST TWO DECADES WAS KIND
10:27:37 OF BAND-AID BECAUSE TO DO A PD AND YOU LOOK AT PDS ALL
10:27:40 THE TIME UNDER A SEE THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL IN THEM.
10:27:43 IF YOU PUT THAT UP TO 50 ACRES WHICH IS WHAT THE CODE
10:27:44 IS NOW.
10:27:48 AND THAT JUST WENT INTO EFFECT IN 2008, THAT 50
10:27:51 QUANTITY WITH THE PDA.
10:27:56 YOU CAN'T AS TYLER SAID PUT THE DUMPSTER ON FOR 50
10:28:00 ACRES AND PUT THE TRUCKS ON FOR 50 ACRES.
10:28:01 LANDSCAPE PLANS.
10:28:05 SO THIS JUST BRINGS THAT 50 ACRES DOWN TO 20.
10:28:09 AND THEN SAYS IF YOU ARE A PARCEL OF 20 ACRE AND MORE
10:28:13 AND LIKE THE POTENTIAL TO PROCEED WITH THE PDA.
10:28:15 NOW HAVE IT AND HERE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT RUN WITH
10:28:16 IT.
10:28:19 BUT IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND YOU MUST
10:28:21 PETITION CITY COUNCIL.
10:28:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:28:24 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:28:25 IF NOT, WE WILL WRAP IT UP.
10:28:29 DO WE NEED A MOTION TO SET THIS FOR FIRST READING MARCH
10:28:30 -- FEBRUARY 4.
10:28:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, I BELIEVE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN
10:28:33 SET.
10:28:38 JUST A REMINDER TO MR. HUDSON THAT THE CLERK HAS
10:28:40 INFORMED US THE SECOND READ WILL NOT BE ON THE 18TH OF
10:28:43 FEBRUARY BUT RATHER AN MARCH 4.
10:28:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, DO YOU HAVE
10:28:47 ANYTHING?
10:28:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, SIR, VERY GOOD.
10:28:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:28:52 OKAY.
10:28:53 NO?
10:28:53 GREAT.
10:28:56 MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:29:00 WE HAVE A POWERPOINT REGARDING PARKING IN THE
10:29:03 RIGHTS-OF-WAY, ONE OF THE MANY, MANY COMPLAINTS THAT I
10:29:07 RECEIVE ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS FROM ALL HOURS OF THE
10:29:08 DAY.
10:29:12 GO AHEAD, VIK, I SEE ON THE LINE.
10:29:15 >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL, VIK
10:29:19 BHIDE, MEMBERS OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
10:29:24 I'M HERE TO DISCUSS ITEM 3, MOTION AND DISCUSS PARKING
10:29:26 IN THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
10:29:29 PARTICULARLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
10:29:31 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:29:35 THE PRESENTATION AND KIND OF OUTLINE WHAT THE ISSUES
10:29:38 ARE, HOW WE ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS, AND WHAT
10:29:41 ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD
10:29:43 AND THE DETAIL IN THE MOTION.
10:29:47 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:29:51 SO QUICK BACKGROUND WORK.
10:29:57 WE HAVE PLENTY OF NARROW 17 FEET AND SOMETIMES EVEN
10:30:02 NARROWER WHICH DO HAVE ON-STREET PARKING AS WELL ON
10:30:07 THEM, WHICH MAY SOMETIMES CREATE CONCERNS.
10:30:10 WE ALSO DO HAVE INCREASING PARKING DEMAND.
10:30:14 SO MID-SIZED CITIES ACROSS THE U.S., CAR OWNERSHIP HAS
10:30:19 BEEN GOING UP.
10:30:22 AS WE GROW WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS AS
10:30:23 WE MOVE FORWARD.
10:30:27 THAT IS KIND OF THE BACKDROP TO THE CONCERN.
10:30:31 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
10:30:35 GUILT OVER SOME OF THE PARKING CODES AND STATUTES TO
10:30:38 UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ALLOWED, WHAT IS NOT, AND HOW WE CAN
10:30:43 ADDRESS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.
10:30:46 BUT MOST OF OUR CODE FOR PARKING IS WITHIN CHAPTER 15,
10:30:53 AND IN ESSENCE, PARKING IN FRONT OF RESIDENCES OR
10:30:55 PUBLIC DRIVEWAYS IS REGULATED.
10:31:00 IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANYONE TO PARK OR STAND WITHIN TEN
10:31:04 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF PUBLIC OR PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.
10:31:08 OF COURSE THIS PUTS PRESSURES ON NEIGHBORHOODS IN TERMS
10:31:11 OF AVAILABILITY OF PARKING SPACES.
10:31:17 IT IS ALSO UNLAWFUL TO PARK A VEHICLE OR STAND IF THE
10:31:20 STREETS 25 FEET OR LESSER.
10:31:26 THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO US HAVING SOME -- A GOOD
10:31:29 PORTION OF NARROWER STREETS AND THE CHALLENGES WITH
10:31:30 THAT.
10:31:36 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:31:41 SO SECTION 15-44 STATES THAT TEN FEET OF THE ROADWAY
10:31:44 MUST REMAIN OPEN TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
10:31:50 THIS IS FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS, FOR REGULAR CONVEYANCE,
10:31:54 FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS ON STREETS, ESPECIALLY
10:31:57 RESIDENTIAL STREETS WHERE AT TIMES WE DON'T HAVE ANY
10:31:58 SIDEWALKS.
10:32:03 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:32:08 AND SOME OF THE STATE AND CITY ORDINANCES THAT KIND OF
10:32:09 APPLY AS WELL.
10:32:18 THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT ARE DRIVEWAYS, FIRE HYDRANTS,
10:32:22 WITHIN 15 FEET OF FIRE HYDRANT FOR FLORIDA STATUTES,
10:32:22 YOU CAN NOT PARK.
10:32:26 YOU CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF DRIVEWAYS AS WE TALKED
10:32:27 ABOUT, CROSSWALKS.
10:32:30 YOU CAN'T PARK WITHIN 20 FEET OF CROSSWALKS.
10:32:37 AGAIN THIS IS TO ENHANCE VISIBILITY AND SAME APPLIES TO
10:32:40 TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES LIKE STOP SIGNS AND TRAFFIC
10:32:43 SIGNALS AND THAT IS ACTUALLY 30 FEET.
10:32:45 NOW THERE ARE DISCRETION OF SOME OF THESE NUMBERS
10:32:49 DEPENDING ON GEOGRAPHY AND THE LOCATION, BUT THE
10:32:54 STATUTE DOES STATE THAT WE HAVE TO BE WITHIN 30 FEET OF
10:32:56 THE APPROACH.
10:33:01 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:33:04 OUR TYPICAL PROCESS IS REALLY CASE BY CASE.
10:33:08 GIVEN THAT WE ARE SOMEWHAT LIMITED WITH THE EXISTING
10:33:11 RULES ON VERY NARROW STREETS AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF
10:33:16 EXAMPLES OF THESE NARROW STREETS, BUT TYPICALLY WITH
10:33:22 PARKING CONCERNS, WE EITHER RECEIVE A CONCERN FROM
10:33:23 RESIDENTS OR A BUSINESS.
10:33:26 IT GOES TO THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, OUR CUSTOMER
10:33:28 SERVICE FOLKS.
10:33:32 OUR TRAFFIC INVESTIGATION SCHEME IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
10:33:33 LOOKING INTO THESE.
10:33:36 THEY LOOK AT SPEEDING AND OTHER ISSUES AS WELL.
10:33:41 THEY ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE
10:33:45 MOST TYPICAL MEASURES WE TAKE THAT ADDRESS PARKING
10:33:45 CONCERNS.
10:33:54 NOT SO MUCH CAPACITY RELATED BUT YOU KNOW A RESTAURANT
10:33:58 NEARBY AND PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT
10:33:59 TEN FEET OF CLEARANCE.
10:34:03 WE DO PARKING RESTRICTION SCIENCE ALL OVER THE CITY.
10:34:08 WE NOTIFY CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE CITY
10:34:14 CODE ACTIVATION, BUT ALSO MORE RECENTLY, WE EMPOWER
10:34:18 CODE ENFORCEMENT TO CONSIDER PARKING CITATIONS IN
10:34:21 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL MAINLY TO INCREASE
10:34:26 THE CITY'S CAPACITY TO MANAGE SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES.
10:34:29 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:34:34 WE ALSO DO HAVE PARKING RESTRICTIONS AND REQUESTS.
10:34:38 SO VEHICLES -- VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED IN VIOLATION
10:34:42 MAY BE TICKETED -- TICKETED BY $29.
10:34:44 IT IS $29.
10:34:47 AND AS I MENTIONED, CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN NOW ISSUE
10:34:48 THESE TICKETS AS WELL.
10:34:53 THAT JUST BROADENS THE POOL OF FOLKS WE HAVE TO SUPPORT
10:34:53 OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:34:59 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:35:02 WE ALSO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM THAT A
10:35:04 NEIGHBORHOOD CAN AVAIL OF.
10:35:08 AND THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB SITE.
10:35:12 WE WILL UP PROVE HOW WE -- IMPROVE HOW WE COMMUNICATE
10:35:13 THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
10:35:19 AND IN ESSENCE, A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN OPT TO UTILIZE THIS
10:35:23 RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT.
10:35:28 THE PERMIT IS ISSUED TO BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
10:35:32 RESIDENTS CAN APPLY FOR A MINIMUM OF ONE, BUT CAN APPLY
10:35:38 FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS IF THEIR CURRENT
10:35:41 FACILITY HAS NO OFF-STREET PARKING.
10:35:44 THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE A THIRD PERMIT
10:35:47 FOR POTENTIAL GUESTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:35:50 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:35:55 CONTINUING ON THIS FOR BUSINESS, RESIDENTIAL -- WITHIN
10:35:57 A RESIDENTIAL PARKING AREA.
10:36:03 BUSINESSES MAY OBTAIN A MINIMUM OF TWO OR MORE
10:36:05 RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS AND THEY ARE VALID FROM 4
10:36:11 A.M. TO 9 P.M. THIS IS KIND OF TO OFFSET TYPICAL
10:36:17 RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS THAT ARE OVERNIGHT ESSENCE
10:36:20 AND A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH NEED.
10:36:25 THEY MAY BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY FOR BUSINESS EMPLOYEES
10:36:26 AND THEIR CUSTOMERS.
10:36:28 BUT THEY ARE LIMITED.
10:36:31 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:36:35 WE ALSO HAVE GUEST RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS.
10:36:39 AND THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF ONE ALLOWED.
10:36:44 AND WE HAVE SOME PROVISIONS FOR FLEXIBILITY TO THAT AS
10:36:50 WELL WHERE WE CAN DO AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN-DAY
10:36:53 RESIDENTIAL PERMIT FOR FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO STAY FOR
10:36:56 A LONG TIME.
10:36:59 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:37:03 OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT AND
10:37:08 CONSIDER ARE THAT FOR RELATION STREETS THAT ARE LESS
10:37:14 THAN 17 FEET, THERE IS NO ON-STREET PARKING OFFICIALLY
10:37:18 PERMITTED, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THERE IS
10:37:20 PARKING CURRENTLY.
10:37:25 AND THEN FOR ROADWAYS BETWEEN 17 AND 23 FEET.
10:37:29 AGAIN, THESE ARE KIND OF BEST PRACTICE STANDARDS, IF
10:37:30 YOU WILL.
10:37:35 PARKING IS PERMITTED ON ONE SITE, BUT TYPICALLY,
10:37:38 ESPECIALLY AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE 23, THERE ARE CASES
10:37:42 WHERE THAT MIGHT NOT BE -- THERE ARE FOLKS PARKING IN
10:37:43 BOTH.
10:37:46 AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THAT TEN FEET OF SPACE ENOUGH FOR
10:37:47 EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET THROUGH.
10:37:52 THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE LOOK AT ON A CASE-BY-CASE
10:37:52 BASIS.
10:37:58 THEN YOU HAVE YOUR RIGHTS-OF-WAY GREATER THAN 20 FEET
10:38:04 WHERE YOU CAN PARK ON BOTH SIDES AND YOU CONSIDER
10:38:12 PARKING AISLES.
10:38:15 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:38:17 RESIDENTIAL PARKING OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
10:38:20 IT IS GOOD FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND THE PRESENCE OF
10:38:22 THESE PARKED VEHICLES SLOWS THE SPEEDS DOWN A LITTLE
10:38:23 BIT.
10:38:30 THIS HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED BY A STUDY DONE BY THE
10:38:34 NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS.
10:38:36 THEY CALL IT YIELD STREETS ALMOST, BECAUSE IT INCREASES
10:38:41 THE AWARENESS OF MOTORISTS GOING THROUGH THESE
10:38:42 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:38:46 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:38:49 SO OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IS, HOW DO WE GROW?
10:38:51 WE KNOW WE ARE GROWING RAPIDLY.
10:38:54 WE KNOW THAT NOT ONLY WHERE OUR RESIDENTIAL POPULATION
10:38:57 INCREASE, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE JOB CENTER FOR
10:38:58 OUR REGION.
10:39:04 AND THIS DOES PUT SOME PRESSURES ON OUR RESIDENTIAL
10:39:08 STREETS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY, IT IS A
10:39:13 MULTIPRONG STRATEGY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
10:39:16 WE ARE LOOKING AT FOSTERING TRANSIT, WHICH WILL
10:39:24 CERTAINLY HELP DISTRIBUTE THE MOLDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
10:39:25 FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:39:29 THIS IS A LONG-TERM UNDERTAKING IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT
10:39:32 OF VIABLE TRANSIT OPTIONS CITYWIDE.
10:39:35 CERTAINLY WE ARE LOOKING AT PARKING POLICY AS WELL AND
10:39:38 LOOKING AT PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND HOW THEY APPLY TO
10:39:40 RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
10:39:47 AND THEN THROUGH OUR MOVES PROCESS, THE MOBILITY MASTER
10:39:48 PLAN, IF YOU WILL.
10:39:51 ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT IS RECLASSIFICATION
10:39:54 OF ALL OF OUR STREETS WITHIN THE CITY.
10:39:58 AND LOOKING AT WHERE TARGETED INVESTMENTS -- WHERE MOST
10:40:03 BENEFIT WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL DESIGN AND
10:40:05 CONFIGURATION.
10:40:08 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
10:40:09 THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
10:40:12 HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:14 AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE.
10:40:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:40:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH,MR. CHAIR.
10:40:22 VIK, GREAT PRESENTATION.
10:40:25 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING DO YOU WITH MOBILITY.
10:40:29 COUNCILMEMBERS, THE REASON I ASKED VIK TO MAKE THIS
10:40:31 PRESENTATION TODAY BECAUSE OUR STREETS WAS PLOTTED AND
10:40:35 OUR LAND WAS PLOTTED AT A TIME WHEN EACH HOUSEHOLD ONLY
10:40:38 HAD ONE.
10:40:41 AND MANY OF OUR STREETS DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS.
10:40:45 SO AS I AM GOING THROUGH MANY SECTIONS OF TAMPA, EAST
10:40:48 TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, I AM SEEING WOMEN
10:40:54 PUSHING THEIR BABY STROLLERS IN THE STREETS KIDS HAVING
10:40:57 TO WALK TO SCHOOL IN THE STREETS.
10:41:01 BUT MY MAIN CONCERN WAS THE SAFETY AND THE ACCESS BY
10:41:03 FIRST RESPONDERS.
10:41:05 WHEN WE HAVE SMALL STREETS AND BOTH SIDES OF THE
10:41:08 STREETS ARE LINED WITH CARS.
10:41:11 IT IS DIFFICULT FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET DOWN
10:41:12 THE STREET.
10:41:17 SO I -- I, LIKE ALL OF US, HAVE HAD CALLS FROM
10:41:20 CONSTITUENTS SAYING WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS?
10:41:25 I WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT WE ARE CONCERNED.
10:41:27 VIK WITH MOBILITY IS CONCERNED.
10:41:33 AND WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO RECTIFY THIS PROBLEM.
10:41:36 I HOPE IT DOESN'T COME TO THIS, BUT AS THIS CITY GROWS,
10:41:39 WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DECIDE HOW PARKING IS ON OUR
10:41:40 STREETS.
10:41:44 BUT I WANTED TO ASSURE EVERYBODY OF TAMPA THAT WE ARE
10:41:47 WORKING ON SOME SOLUTIONS TO THIS PROBLEM.
10:41:51 WE ARE ALSO GETTING CALLS, IF I MAY SAY, OF PEOPLE
10:41:56 PARKING THEIR VEHICLES ON THE ACTUAL RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT,
10:41:59 THAT SPACE BETWEEN THE SIDEWALKS AND THE STREET.
10:42:03 AND I WANT -- I WANT OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT, YES,
10:42:05 MOBILITY IS LOOKING AT THIS SITUATION.
10:42:08 VIK, AS ALWAYS, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU
10:42:08 DO.
10:42:10 MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:42:10 SPEAK.
10:42:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:14 TO PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS.
10:42:16 WE HAVE ISSUES THROUGHOUT WEST TAMPA SPECIFICALLY --
10:42:18 THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT IN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS
10:42:22 THAT I REPRESENT THAT, THAT WE ALL REPRESENT,
10:42:25 COMMERCIAL BREAKS PARKING ALL DAY IN NEIGHBORHOODS AS
10:42:28 COUNCILMAN CITRO HAS MENTIONED.
10:42:32 VEHICLE -- EMPLOYEES' VEHICLES PARKING ON RIGHT-OF-WAYS
10:42:36 WHERE THERE ARE SIDEWALKS AND WHERE THERE ARE NOT
10:42:37 SIDEWALKS.
10:42:42 NOT ONLY IS IT A SAFETY ISSUE BUT DETERIORATES THE LOOK
10:42:43 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:42:46 WHEN WE -- WHEN I SAY THAT, EVERYBODY SAYS I AM A
10:42:46 TAXPAYER.
10:42:48 I PAY MY TAXES.
10:42:49 IT IS TRUE.
10:42:50 THEY PAY THEIR TAXES.
10:42:54 THEY -- THE AMERICAN DREAM IS OFTENTIMES CONSIDERED AS
10:42:56 HOMEOWNERSHIP.
10:42:59 PEOPLE PUT SO MUCH OF THEIR EARNINGS INTO THE MORTGAGES
10:43:02 AND HOMES AND THE AMERICAN DREAM AND THEY SEE THEIR
10:43:06 NEIGHBORHOODS DETERIORATING BECAUSE OF COMMERCIAL
10:43:08 VEHICLES, BECAUSE OF EMPLOYEES PARKING FROM CERTAIN
10:43:11 BUSINESSES ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, NARROWING THE STREETS.
10:43:13 MAKING IT HARDER FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
10:43:16 MAKING IT HARDER FOR THAT MOTHER AS COUNCILMAN CITRO
10:43:18 MENTIONED TO PUSH THAT STROLLER.
10:43:20 SOMEONE IN A WHEELCHAIR TO GET THROUGH THERE.
10:43:23 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ISSUE WHERE IS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
10:43:23 GET HIT.
10:43:25 PEDESTRIANS ARE GOING TO GET HIT.
10:43:27 EMERGENCY VEHICLES WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH IN
10:43:27 TIME.
10:43:31 BUT, AGAIN, JUST -- JUST SIMPLE RESPECT FOR THE
10:43:31 NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:43:35 YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE THESE CARS FLOODING AREAS BECAUSE
10:43:38 OF CERTAIN BUSINESSES DECIDE TO MOVE IN WITHOUT AMPLE
10:43:39 PARKING.
10:43:41 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CODE.
10:43:43 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS IN VIOLATION AND WHAT IS
10:43:44 NOT.
10:43:48 BECAUSE I AM GETTING CALLS EVERY DAY -- OR SOMEONE
10:43:53 CONTACTS OR E-MAILS AND EVERY DAY I AM HEARING IT.
10:43:54 AND EVERY DAY I AM DRIVING THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS
10:43:57 AND I SEE IT FIRSTHAND.
10:44:01 I APPRECIATE YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON
10:44:03 SECONDED THE MOTION AND WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
10:44:04 ANYTHING ELSE?
10:44:05 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:44:09 >>BILL CARLSON: THE -- ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT WE
10:44:11 FACE IS ENFORCEMENT.
10:44:19 AND THAT IS NOT REALLY VIK'S AREA AND I KNOW OCEA AND
10:44:23 HER TEAM AND JOHN BENNETT HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT AND
10:44:27 THE DEKELE AREA, FOLKS ARE UPSET BECAUSE UBER DRIVERS
10:44:30 AND DELIVERY DRIVERS PARK IN FRONT OF A -- PARK
10:44:33 ILLEGALLY IN FRONT OF DRIVEWAYS.
10:44:38 THEY PARK IN FRONT OF FIRE HYDRANTS AND OTHER THINGS.
10:44:40 AND IT IS HARD TO GET THE POLICE TO COME, BECAUSE THEY
10:44:43 HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.
10:44:50 CHIEF BENNETT, WORKING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, SET UP A
10:44:53 NEW DIVISION A YEAR OR SO AGO AND MY UNDERSTANDING WILL
10:44:54 KICK OFF SOON.
10:44:57 TAKEN A LONG TIME FOR THAT TO START.
10:44:59 I ASKED FOR THE FOLKS FROM THAT UNIT TO GIVE US AN
10:45:00 UPDATE.
10:45:02 MAYBE WE SHOULD GET THEM TO COME OFFICIALLY BEFORE CITY
10:45:06 COUNCIL, BUT WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT, NONE OF THIS MATTERS.
10:45:09 IF PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY PARKING IN FRONT OF YOUR
10:45:12 DRIVEWAY AND FIRE HYDRANT, THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
10:45:15 THE OTHER THING IS YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE PASSED A
10:45:19 MOTION TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR A CITY-WIDE
10:45:23 SIDEWALK PLAN AND CITY-WIDE BICYCLE PLAN, IF THE MONEY
10:45:26 -- IF THE SUPREME COURT VOTES TO HOLD UP TRANSPORTATION
10:45:28 AND SOME PART OF IT, WE MAY HAVE SOME MONEY TO WORK
10:45:29 WITH THAT.
10:45:34 BUT COUNCILMAN CITRO'S POINT, IF WE HAVE THOSE PLANS,
10:45:36 WE CAN TALK TO NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND
10:45:39 CAN'T DO AND WHAT THE TIMING OF IT IS AND THE SAME
10:45:40 THING HAPPENS IN PARKS.
10:45:44 VIK'S TEAM TOOK OUR REQUEST AND PUT THEM IN THE
10:45:48 MOBILITY PLAN PROCESS THAT LOOKS AT ALL OF IT TOGETHER.
10:45:51 AS THAT STARTS TO ROLL OUT, WE NEED TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY
10:45:54 AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO TALK ABOUT THE OPTIONS AND TALK
10:45:56 ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE FACING AND TRY TO SOLVE
10:45:56 THEM.
10:46:00 BECAUSE AS WE SAID MANY TIMES ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF
10:46:02 COVID, NEIGHBORHOODS AND PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES
10:46:04 ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THEM
10:46:08 BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING IN -- LEAPING AND DOING --
10:46:11 SLEEPING AND DOING THEIR ENTERTAINMENT IN THEIR
10:46:12 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:46:14 NEIGHBORHOODS OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN FELT LIKE THEY WERE
10:46:18 IGNORED FOR MANY YEARS AND WE NEED TO PLAY CATCH-UP
10:46:18 HERE.
10:46:18 THANK YOU.
10:46:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:21 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:46:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, VIK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER FOUR, TO DISCUSS PARKING
10:46:30 CONCERNS IN YBOR ON 7TH AVENUE AND SURROUNDING
10:46:31 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:46:33 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:46:36 >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCILMAN.
10:46:37 I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION --
10:46:40 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION -- MARTY --
10:46:43 I FORGET TO -- MY OFFICE IS ON 7TH AVENUE.
10:46:46 AND IT POTENTIALLY -- MY CUSTOMERS WILL PARK ON 7TH
10:46:47 AVENUE.
10:46:48 DO I HAVE A CONFLICT?
10:46:50 CAN I TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
10:46:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE AT THIS
10:46:53 POINT.
10:46:55 >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS NO THE A CONFLICT?
10:46:57 OKAY, THANKS.
10:46:59 >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
10:47:02 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
10:47:07 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS NUMBER 4, MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
10:47:13 CITRO AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO DISCUSS ABOUT PARKING
10:47:16 CONCERNS IN YBOR CITY PARTICULARLY ON 7TH AVENUE AND
10:47:17 THE SURROUNDING AREA.
10:47:18 WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR IT.
10:47:25 SO IF WE CAN BRING THAT UP.
10:47:31 I DO HAVE IT UP HERE AS WELL ON MY COMPUTER.
10:47:44 I CAN JUST WALK THROUGH IT IF THAT WORKS TRY SHARE MY
10:47:47 SCREEN.
10:47:56 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
10:47:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:48:00 >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
10:48:05 SO THIS IS THE AREA AROUND 7TH AVENUE THAT THE PARKING
10:48:09 DIVISION OPERATES PARKING ON STREET AS WELL AS
10:48:13 OFFSTREET.
10:48:16 IT IS PALM TO THE NORTH, 3RD AVENUE TO THE SOUTH,
10:48:20 NUCCIO PARKWAY TO THE WEST, AND 22ND STREET TO THE
10:48:20 EAST.
10:48:23 SO THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND
10:48:29 DISCUSSING, PARTICULARLY 7TH AVENUE THAT IS THE PRIMARY
10:48:31 COMMERCIAL.
10:48:36 SO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE ON 7TH AVENUE,
10:48:38 ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING.
10:48:41 ONE IS A LACK OF TURNOVER.
10:48:46 OFTENTIMES, THE FOLKS THAT ARRIVE EARLY ON 7TH AVENUE
10:48:52 CAN BE EMPLOYEES AND STAFF AND THEY PARK ON 7TH AVENUE
10:48:55 WHICH CREATES LESSER OPPORTUNITIES FOR CUSTOMERS AT
10:48:56 TIMES.
10:49:00 THEN THERE IS FREIGHT.
10:49:05 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DEDICATED SPACES GIVEN THE NUMBER
10:49:09 OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, RETAIL ACTIVITY ALONG 7TH
10:49:09 AVENUE.
10:49:15 THAT LEADS TO DELIVERY TRUCKS DOUBLE PARKING AT TIMES
10:49:21 AND CREATING CONGESTION AND CREATING ADDITIONAL.
10:49:25 WE HAVE A LOT OF MOTORCYCLE ENTHUSIAST THAT'S DRIVE 7TH
10:49:26 AVENUE.
10:49:29 SOMETIMES WE FIND LIKE THE PICTURE SHOWN IN THE
10:49:32 PRESENTATION THAT MULTIPLE BIKES ARE PARKED EITHER IN
10:49:37 ONE SPACE FOR A COUPLE OF SPACES AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF
10:49:41 BIKES, THEY ARE EITHER IDLING OR PLAYING LOUD MUSIC OR
10:49:44 JUST PARKED THERE AT TIMES.
10:49:47 OFTENTIMES, THEY COULD BE RESERVED METER PARKING SPACES
10:49:51 THAT ARE DEDICATED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND RESERVED
10:49:55 BY A SEPARATE ENTITY.
10:49:58 THIS ALSO ADDS TO THE CONGESTION, BECAUSE WHEN THESE
10:50:02 SPACES ARE OCCUPIED IN THIS MANNER, PEOPLE CONTINUE TO
10:50:09 DRIVE AROUND LOOKING FOR PARKING SPACES ON 7TH AVENUE.
10:50:12 >> MR. CHAIR, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT WHILE THAT COMMENT
10:50:12 IS UP.
10:50:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
10:50:16 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL MAY KNOW BUT THAT IS THE
10:50:17 ITALIAN CLUB.
10:50:20 AT LEAST I HAVE SEEN PICTURES LIKE THAT OF THE ITALIAN
10:50:21 CLUB.
10:50:24 THE PROBLEM IS THEY HAVE WEDDINGS -- PEOPLE SPEND A LOT
10:50:27 OF MONEY ON WEDDINGS AND THEY WALK OUT AND A LOT OF
10:50:28 NOISE AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON FLORIDA.
10:50:32 SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF FLAVOR TO THAT.
10:50:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY ALSO, VIK, VERY QUICKLY.
10:50:41 TO YOUR POINT COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WITH THOSE PARKING
10:50:45 SPACES ARE RESERVED, WHAT IS CALLED BAGGED.
10:50:49 AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY THESE BRIGHT RED OR ORANGE BAGS
10:50:52 PLACED THERE TO RESERVE THIS PARKING SPOT.
10:50:55 I AM NOT GOING TO CONDEMN ANY MOTORCYCLE RIDER BECAUSE
10:50:57 I AM A MOTORCYCLE RIDER.
10:51:01 BUT WHEN YOU RESERVE THE PARKING SPACE RESERVE FOR THAT
10:51:02 EVENT.
10:51:07 SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN CARS AND MOTORCYCLE PARK
10:51:09 EXTENDED PAST TWO HOURS.
10:51:11 I HEAR THE SAME PHONE CALLS AS YOU.
10:51:13 PLEASE, VIK, GO AHEAD.
10:51:14 >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:51:16 AND THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
10:51:18 BECAUSE WITH LIMITED CONTROLS, WE HAVE LIMITED
10:51:24 INCENTIVE OR THE COMMUNITY HAS LIMITED INCENTIVES TO
10:51:25 CURB SOME OF THESE BEHAVIORS.
10:51:26 WE WORK WITH CODE.
10:51:28 WE WORK WITH TPD.
10:51:33 BUT IF THEY ARE REPETITIVE, IT IS VERY HARD TO HAVE THE
10:51:35 RESOURCES TO STAY ON IT.
10:51:38 WE DO HAVE BETTER WAYS TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES AND
10:51:46 WE ARE WORKING WITH YCDC AND SOME OF THE STAKE HOLDERS
10:51:47 IN THE AREA.
10:51:51 SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE PROPOSING DO INCLUDE
10:51:54 INCREASING ENFORCEMENT -- WE HAVE DONE SOME OF THIS
10:51:56 ALREADY.
10:52:00 INCREASING THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE TWO-HOUR SPACES.
10:52:03 THERE ARE TWO-HOUR SPACES BECAUSE IT IS A MAIN STREET
10:52:04 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
10:52:07 YOU WANT THAT TURNOVER ON THAT STREET.
10:52:09 AND THAT REALLY HELPS.
10:52:12 BUT THAT ENFORCEMENT ALSO COMES WITH A NEED FOR
10:52:16 RESOURCES AND IF THERE AREN'T ANY RESOURCES GENERATED
10:52:19 ON THAT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, THEN IT PUTS ADDITIONAL
10:52:22 PRESSURE ON US.
10:52:24 WE ARE ALSO MOVING TOWARD FLEX SPACES.
10:52:29 AND REALLY THE REASON FOR MOVING FORWARD FLEX SPACES IS
10:52:34 THE ONE RECOGNIZED THAT NEEDS OF A CORRIDOR OR ROADWAY
10:52:37 MIGHT CHANGE OVER TIME AND SPACE.
10:52:39 AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
10:52:44 HOTELS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE CHECK-OUT AND CHECK-IN NEEDS
10:52:47 11 A.M. AND 3 P.M. TYPICALLY.
10:52:50 THEY ARE LOADING, UNLOADING MIGHT BE IN THE MORNINGS.
10:52:53 AND THEN IN THE EVENINGS, THAT SPACE MIGHT BE FOR
10:52:57 PICK-UP AND DROP-OFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:53:00 WE ARE RIGHT NOW EXPERIENCING WITH THESE TYPE OF FLEX
10:53:04 SPACES FOR DIFFERENT USES TO SEE HOW WE CAN SERVICE
10:53:09 MORE PEOPLE AN MILES PER HOUR THAN HAVE A CAR PARKED
10:53:13 THERE WHICH IS TYPICALLY A SINGLE OCCUPANCY CAR.
10:53:14 THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT.
10:53:17 WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CODE AND IF THERE ARE ANY CODE
10:53:17 CHANGES.
10:53:20 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TEMPER THAT ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE
10:53:23 GOING THROUGH THE MOVES PROCESS AND THE
10:53:26 RECLASSIFICATION OF ALL OF OUR STREETS TO UNDERSTAND
10:53:29 WHAT THEIR PURPOSE IS THROUGH OUR CONTEXT TODAY AND
10:53:32 THAT INFORMATION WILL REALLY HELP TOWARD FASHIONING A
10:53:36 BETTER POLICY.
10:53:39 WE HAVE MOVED TO NEW BAGS.
10:53:43 SO COUNCILMAN CITRO IS RIGHT.
10:53:46 WE HAVE RED BAGS BUT MOVING TO MUCH LARGER BAGS THAT
10:53:49 MAKE IT VERY CLEAR WHAT THE TINT OF THE SPACE IS.
10:53:52 THE PICTURE TO YOUR RIGHT THAT SHOWS THAT.
10:53:56 AND WE, OF COURSE, SHARED THIS WITH OUR PARTNERS IN
10:54:01 CODE ENFORCEMENT, TPD AS WELL TO, AGAIN, IMPROVE OUR
10:54:05 ENFORCEMENT AND MANAGEMENT.
10:54:07 AND THIS IS THE GENERAL INVENTORY OF SPACES.
10:54:11 WE HAVE ABOUT 24 MOTORCYCLE SPACES.
10:54:16 NINE ON THE 1200 BLOCK OF 8TH.
10:54:19 15 SPACES ON 16TH STREET.
10:54:24 35 SPACES ACROSS THE DISTRICT, BUT, AGAIN, WE RECOGNIZE
10:54:26 THAT THE FRIGHT NEED IS HIGHER.
10:54:30 AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS LIKE WE OUTLINED EARLIER.
10:54:37 WE HAVE ABOUT 373 ASSIGNED SPACES AND 2400 GARAGE WHICH
10:54:40 IS THE YBOR GARAGE.
10:54:44 SO THAT IS KIND OF THE BACKDROP OF THE CHALLENGES, SOME
10:54:46 OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT.
10:54:48 WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME
10:54:51 OF THESE ITEMS.
10:54:55 AT THIS POINT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
10:54:56 THANK YOU.
10:54:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:55:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:55:04 VIK, WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
10:55:07 TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT.
10:55:10 THE STAFFING TO GO OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE PARKING
10:55:14 SPACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING CORRECTLY.
10:55:17 WE -- WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING RIGHT NOW.
10:55:19 MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT HIRING MORE PEOPLE IN
10:55:22 PARKING DIVISIONS AND GIVE THEM PARKING TICKETS SO THEY
10:55:24 CAN HAND THEM OUT.
10:55:29 IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO MAYBE MOTOR PARK -- EXCUSE ME,
10:55:34 MOTORCYCLE PARKING ON THE SIDE STREETS, SAY 15 TO 22ND.
10:55:38 AND HAVE THEM PARK ON THAT -- THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
10:55:41 AND TO YOUR SLIDE PRESENTATION, YES, WE HAVE EMPLOYEES
10:55:45 TO PARK OUTSIDE OF THE BUSINESS AND STAY THERE ALL DAY
10:55:49 AND ALL NIGHT INSTEAD OF THE TWO-HOUR PARKING THAT THEY
10:55:52 ARE ALLOWED ON 7TH AVENUE.
10:55:55 THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT, AGAIN,
10:55:58 VIK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:55:59 >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
10:56:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:56:01 ANYBODY ELSE?
10:56:02 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:56:06 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS REAL FAST.
10:56:09 VIK -- AND I MENTION THIS TO YOU PRIVATELY.
10:56:13 I WISH WE COULD PUSH -- AND THIS GOES WITH OTHER PARTS
10:56:14 OF TOWN TOO.
10:56:17 I WISH WE COULD PUSH MORE PEOPLE TO THE APP.
10:56:21 AND THERE ARE SOME ARGUMENTS ABOUT THAT PEOPLE OVER 80
10:56:25 OR OTHERS CAN'T USE APPS OR DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.
10:56:28 I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS OVER 80 AND THEY ARE ABLE TO
10:56:29 USE APPS JUST FINE.
10:56:32 I WISH WE COULD -- WE HAVE THE KIOSK ALSO IF PEOPLE
10:56:34 DON'T WANT TO USE THE APPS.
10:56:38 BUT I WISH WE COULD SEND PEOPLE THE APPS SO THEY HAVE
10:56:42 TO SIGN UP FOR THE TWO-HOUR FREE PARKING AND IT WOULD
10:56:45 TEXT THEM AND ALERT THEM WHEN IT IS OVER.
10:56:49 AND IF WE -- SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY THAT HAS A POLICY
10:56:54 TWO HOURS FREE AND CHARGE AFTER THAT, WOULD ALREADY
10:56:56 HAVE THEM IN THE SYSTEM AND START CHARGING THEM.
10:56:59 IF IT RUNS OUT A BIG RED SIGN ON THEIR PHONE TELL THEM
10:57:02 THEY CAN'T PARK THERE ANYMORE.
10:57:07 THE SECOND THING IS THAT WE ARE ALSO GETTING FEEDBACK
10:57:10 AND OTHER ISSUES THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO FLEECE AND
10:57:12 RIP UP THE PUBLIC BECAUSE OF PARKING.
10:57:15 CAN YOU GO BACK AND -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CONCERNS OF
10:57:19 PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT -- ON 7TH AVENUE THAT FOLKS ARE
10:57:22 PARKING TOO LONG AND NEED TO TURN OVER SO BUSINESSES
10:57:24 CAN GET MORE BUSINESS.
10:57:28 I KNOW BECAUSE MY OFFICE IS THERE, SOME OFFICE WORKERS
10:57:31 PARK ALL DAY LONG IN THE TWO-HOUR.
10:57:31 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE -- PEOPLE SAY THEY PARK THERE, AND
10:57:35 NOBODY IN THE YEAR AND A HALF OR WHATEVER, NOBODY EVER
10:57:39 COMES TO GIVE THEM ANY TICKETS.
10:57:41 THEY JUST PARK THERE ALL THE TIME SO THE RESTAURANTS AND
10:57:45 HOTELIERS CAN'T GET ANY BUSINESS.
10:57:47 BUT BESIDES COMPLAINTS WE HEARD FROM RESTAURANTS AND
10:57:52 RESTAURATEURS, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOUR PRESENCE ARE FOR
10:57:55 PARKING ENFORCEMENT OR RAISING PARKING FEES?
10:57:58 >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
10:58:02 BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
10:58:04 AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT APPS, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE
10:58:07 PROCESS OF MORE PARKING APPS WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS
10:58:18 ISN'T COMPLICATING MATTERS AS MUCH AS IT IS TO HAVE VERY
10:58:24 COMMON -- ACROSS, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO NO MATTER WHERE
10:58:30 YOU MAY BE IF YOU ARE VISITING US, WHATEVER HAPPENS, OR
10:58:32 YOU MIGHT BE USING IT TO BE ABLE TO WORK THERE AS WELL.
10:58:36 IT ALSO GIVES A LITTLE MORE COMPETITION.
10:58:40 BUT ONCE WE FINALIZE THESE APPS, WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO
10:58:44 PUT TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THESE CUSTOMER ORIENTED
10:58:51 GROUP WITHIN THE PARKING DIVISION, A COUPLE OF STAFF
10:58:55 MEMBERS THAT WILL FIRST GET TRAINED ON THESE APPS REALLY
10:58:58 WELL, AND THEN WE WILL REACH OUT, AND TO BUSINESSES,
10:59:05 PLACES OF WORSHIP, TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, AND TRAIN
10:59:09 PEOPLE ON THESE APPS, AND THESE APPS ARE PRETTY EASY TO
10:59:15 USE ONCE THEY ARE INSTALLED AND ONCE YOU KNOW HOW TO
10:59:20 ACCESS THEM.
10:59:20 BUT WE ARE TALKING OF THAT AS WELL.
10:59:25 ON THE REASON FOR THE PARKING CHANGES, IT REALLY GOES
10:59:34 BACK TO THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING, AND A STRATEGY THAT
10:59:40 WILL REALLY EXPRESS ITSELF 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW.
10:59:44 THAT'S WHEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE VARIOUS NEW CHALLENGES,
10:59:49 AND A LOT OF THINGS ARE RELATED.
10:59:52 TO PARKING.
10:59:55 ONE QUICK THING ON PARKING ITSELF.
10:59:58 PARKING TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE IN MOST URBAN AREAS.
11:00:05 ABOUT A THIRD OF DOWNTOWN WITH NOTHING BUT PARKING SPACE.
11:00:10 EACH SPACE CAN COST UP TO $20,000 IN GARAGES, LESS ON
11:00:20 ON-STREET, AND THESE ARE WHEN VEHICLES GET USED 5 TO 6%
11:00:27 OF THE TIME.
11:00:28 AND THEN PARKING IS A VERY INTENSIVE ITEM WHEN IT COMES
11:00:31 TO MOBILITY.
11:00:35 HAVING A PERSONAL VEHICLE, I ENJOY MY VEHICLE.
11:00:39 SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE, ONE, UPDATING OUR PARKING
11:00:47 PRICES THAT WE HAVE.
11:00:49 NAMELY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T UPDATED PRICES IN YEARS, AND WE
11:00:57 AREN'T ABLE TO CONTAIN THE CURRENT PARKING LET ALONE IN
11:01:02 THE FUTURE.
11:01:04 AND THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE RIGHT NOW.
11:01:11 THE OTHER IS IN TRANSPORTATION.
11:01:15 AND SOME THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR, EVEN 7th AVENUE,
11:01:20 FOR EXAMPLE, POTENTIALLY, HOW STREET PARKING WILL ADDRESS
11:01:26 THE ISSUE.
11:01:29 NOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, MAY FEEL
11:01:35 DIFFERENT IN CERTAIN CASES, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE GIVING
11:01:38 OURSELVES A WHOLE YEAR TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO
11:01:41 WORK THROUGH ITE, TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESSES AND
11:01:45 RESIDENTS, TO REALLY SEE WHAT WILL WORK BEST WITH THE
11:01:52 CHALLENGES OF 7th AVENUE.
11:01:53 THE OTHER THING WITH PARKING IS THE AFFORDABILITY.
11:02:00 IT'S KIND OF NOT VERY INTUITIVE, AND THE STRATEGY IS
11:02:07 THREE PRONGED WHEN YOU LOOK AT TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S
11:02:10 TOMORROW, SUSTAINABILITY, RESILIENCE, HOUSING
11:02:14 AFFORDABILITY AND ALL OF THAT, AND TRANSPORTATION.
11:02:25 THE NEXT STEP OF THAT STRATEGY IS PARKING REQUIREMENTS
11:02:28 AND UPDATING PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENTS
11:02:35 AND WITHIN UNITS, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS MANAGE THE
11:02:40 PARKING REQUIREMENTS DIRECTLY TO AVAILABLE REAL ESTATE
11:02:44 FOR HOUSING STOCK, AND THAT PUTS PRESSURE ON HOUSING
11:02:50 PRICES AS WELL.
11:02:51 BUT THAT IS RELATED TO HOW MUCH WE CHARGE FOR PARKING
11:02:53 BOTH ON STREET AND JO STREET AND OPERATIONS, AND
11:02:59 SUSTAINABILITY BENEFITS, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, AND FOR
11:03:08 TRANSPORTATION.
11:03:09 IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT TODAY WE DO NOT HAVE THE LEVEL OF
11:03:13 PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND BIKE WALK AND OTHER
11:03:18 CONNECTIVITIES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT COMPLETE
11:03:21 TRANSFORMATION AND MAKE IT AS CONVENIENT AS USING A
11:03:25 PERSONAL VEHICLE, BUT THAT JOURNEY STARTS WITH PARKING
11:03:29 POLICY REFORM.
11:03:31 AND THERE ARE SOME CONSEQUENCES WHICH WE WILL CONTINUE TO
11:03:36 WORK AND MANAGE, BUT THE LONG GAME IS REALLY HOW TO
11:03:42 ADDRESS THESE MULTIPLE ISSUES.
11:03:45 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I RESPOND REAL FAST?
11:03:47 THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT.
11:03:50 AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS HIRED A NEW COMMUNICATIONS PERSON AT
11:03:53 OUR RECOMMENDATION, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO
11:03:58 ENGAGE THE PUBLIC IN LOTS OF WAYS.
11:04:00 EVERYTHING YOU SAID I THINK NEEDS TO GET OUT TO AS MANY
11:04:03 RESIDENTS AS POSSIBLE AND AS MANY WAYS AS POSSIBLE AND
11:04:06 NEEDS TO BE TWO-WAY WHERE WE HEAR BACK AND FORTH.
11:04:09 YOU KNOW, THE BAY TO BAY ISSUE WAS THE PRAYER
11:04:12 ADMINISTRATION, BUT THE COMMUNICATION WAS NOT HANDLED
11:04:15 WELL AT ALL, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY IS TRYING
11:04:17 TO AVOID HERE.
11:04:18 ONE LAST THING IS, VIK REALLY WALKS THE WALK, YOU SEE
11:04:21 PARKING SPACES BEHIND HIM.
11:04:23 I PASS HIM ALMOST EVERY DAY DRIVING WHILE HE'S RIDING HIS
11:04:27 BIKE DILIGENTLY TO WORK.
11:04:28 SO THANK YOU FOR REDUCING YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AND
11:04:31 HOPEFULLY I CAN DO IT ONE DAY SOON.
11:04:33 THANK YOU.
11:04:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:04:36 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:04:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE GOOD FRIENDS THAT WORK DOWN IN
11:04:40 YBOR, AND WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE LONG RANGE GOALS.
11:04:44 AND I GUESS I HAVE THE OLD POLICE OFFICER'S MENTALITY, A
11:04:48 LONG WAYS TO GO AND HAVE TO FIX THE PROBLEM AS SOON AS
11:04:51 POSSIBLE.
11:04:51 WHEN I LOOK AT YBOR AND I SEE ALL THE MOTORCYCLES DOWN ON
11:04:56 YBOR, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN, AND I TRIED TO FIGURE OUT
11:04:59 WHAT THE PLAN IS, BECAUSE I LOOK AT THE WORKERS DOWN
11:05:02 THERE, A LOT OF WORKERS.
11:05:07 MAYBE THEY NEED THEIR OWN PARKING LOT OR WHAT HAVE YOU
11:05:12 FOR THE WORKERS SO THAT YOU FREE UP YOUR PARKING SPACES
11:05:15 FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO COME INTO TOWN, WHO ARE GOING FOR
11:05:19 LUNCH, AND NOW THE BUSINESS OWNERS PARK IN THAT LOT, THE
11:05:26 EMPLOYEES PARK IN THAT PARTICULAR LOT, AND IT MIGHT BE A
11:05:29 SMALL FEE YOU HAVE TO CHARGE FOR THAT, BUT I THINK A LOT
11:05:31 OF THEM WORKING GO BACK TO THE PARKING METER, PAY MORE
11:05:36 MONEY AT THE METER.
11:05:37 I JUST LOOK AT SOLUTIONS.
11:05:39 YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT LONG-RANGE GOALS.
11:05:42 I'M NOT A LONG-RANGE GOAL TYPE OF GUY.
11:05:46 HOW CAN I FIX THE PROBLEM NOW?
11:05:48 HOW CAN I GET A FIX ON IT NOW AND THEN LOOK AT LONG
11:05:50 RANGE.
11:05:51 BUT HOW DO I FIX IT?
11:05:52 AND TO ME IT'S SIMPLE.
11:05:55 I GO DOWN THERE IN YBOR, BUT THE MOTORCYCLES PARK, TAKE
11:06:01 UP ALL THE SPACES, THE NOISE, AND I WENT DOWN ABOUT A
11:06:08 MONTH AGO OR SO JUST TO WALK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN
11:06:11 MY DISTRICT AND THE LITTLE SPANISH CLUB HAD A CIGAR,
11:06:15 SOCIAL DISTANCE AND ALL, I CAN LISTEN BECAUSE OF THE
11:06:20 COMBUSTION FROM THE MOTORCYCLES, THE NOISE, REVVING OF
11:06:24 ENGINES.
11:06:24 I THINK THERE ARE SOME QUICK FIXES.
11:06:26 I THINK IF YOU PUT SIGNS OUT IN THE MEANTIME SAYING NO
11:06:30 MOTORCYCLES PARKING,
11:06:35 TO WHERE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO HELP OUR
11:06:37 CITIZENS, OUR WORKERS HERE WITH THEIR PAYCHECK, SO THE
11:06:40 PAYCHECK ISN'T ALL GOING TO PARKING.
11:06:42 LET'S DO SOMETHING WITH THE OWNERS SO WE HAVE
11:06:45 COMMUNICATION, AND I SAID THIS FROM DAY ONE, YOU KNOW.
11:06:50 I DON'T LIKE TO PICK ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:06:52 I GET SO UPSET SOMETIMES, I HEAR ABOUT SHOOTINGS OR
11:06:55 SOMETHING HAPPENS, AND I KNOW RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO CALL
11:06:59 ME ABOUT IT.
11:07:02 WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:07:06 IT'S NOT A SECRET.
11:07:08 JUST WHAT'S GOING ON?
11:07:11 I THINK FOR PARKING.
11:07:13 I THINK SOLID WASTE HAS DONE THAT AS WELL.
11:07:15 IT'S A GOOD THING.
11:07:16 BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME QUICK FIXES.
11:07:20 I THINK YOU HAVE SOME LOTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DURN IN
11:07:23 OR WHAT YOU CAN TURN INTO A PLACE FOR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE
11:07:26 THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ASKING ABOUT.
11:07:28 EMPLOYEES ARE ASKING ABOUT THAT.
11:07:30 I WE COULD PAY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO PARK SOMEPLACE.
11:07:37 SO THESE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I THINK NEED TO TAKE
11:07:39 PLACE TO GET THINGS MOVING AND GET THINGS MOVING NOW.
11:07:42 SO HOPING THAT YOU WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO YOUR STAFF AND
11:07:45 WE CAN LOOK COME UP WITH A PLAN.
11:07:48 I YIELD BACK.
11:07:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY
11:07:52 MOUTH, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:07:54 WHEN I WAS WITH YCDC WE WERE HEARING ABOUT THIS FROM
11:07:59 EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES LIKE THAT THERE IS NOWHERE FOR
11:08:03 EMPLOYEES TO BARK.
11:08:04 I'M HOPING THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE RATHER QUICKLY
11:08:06 WHERE WITHIN OUR TWO PARKING GARAGES, FERNANDO NORIEGA
11:08:14 AND 15th STREET PARKING, FOR BUSINESSES, RESTAURANT
11:08:16 OR OTHERWISE, TO HAVE SPACES AVAILABLE FOR THEIR
11:08:20 EMPLOYEES IN THESE PARKING LOTS, AT SOME SORT OF RATE
11:08:24 THAT THE BUSINESSES AND/OR THE EMPLOYEES CAN AFFORD.
11:08:27 SO VIK, IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT, MAYBE REPORT BACK TO
11:08:30 US IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS OR SOMETHING, WHETHER IT
11:08:33 BE INDIVIDUALLY OR COME TO COUNCIL AGAIN.
11:08:35 BUT YES, THAT IS ANOTHER KEY TO THE PARKING SITUATION.
11:08:39 VIK, AGAIN, THANK YOU.
11:08:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:08:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:08:42 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE?
11:08:52 HEARING NONE, I DO HAVE AN ITEM THAT I AM GOING TO BRING
11:08:55 UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
11:08:56 I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE I CAN BRING IT
11:09:08 UP NOW.
11:09:08 LET'S DO THIS.
11:09:09 WE RECEIVED A HUGE AMOUNT OF E-MAILS AND COMMUNICATION
11:09:12 FROM FOLKS IN DOWNTOWN REGARDING A PREVIOUSLY PASSED
11:09:15 ORDINANCE FROM A FEW MONTHS AGO, 2020-122 REGARDING THE
11:09:21 NEW PARKING RATES.
11:09:22 IT'S AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE FROM DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS,
11:09:26 CHURCH GOERS, PEOPLE USING THE RIVERWALK AND WHATNOT.
11:09:30 MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE REPEAL THE PREVIOUSLY PASSED
11:09:36 ORDINANCE, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY, AND TEMPORARY GO BACK TO
11:09:40 THE LANGUAGE OF WHAT WE HAD ON THE BOOKS WITH THE
11:09:43 PREVIOUS RULES REGARDING PARKING DOWNTOWN WHILE WE FIGURE
11:09:51 THIS OUT.
11:09:51 MY INTENTIONS ARE THAT WE LOOK AT DOWNTOWN PARKING, DON'T
11:09:56 START CHARGING AT LEAST UNTIL 1:00 OR 2:00 IN THE
11:09:59 AFTERNOON AND THE REASON IS YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT
11:10:01 COME DOWN TO GO TO CHURCH, YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT
11:10:03 ARE EXERCISING IN THE MORNING, YOU HAVE OTHER FOLKS THAT
11:10:08 UTILIZE DOWNTOWN CITY PARKING.
11:10:11 PERHAPS WE COULD LOOK AT DOING IT WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA,
11:10:14 CERTAIN -- WITHIN A FEW BLOCKS OF DOWNTOWN THAT WE DO
11:10:17 THIS.
11:10:18 WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT WOULD
11:10:20 BE.
11:10:21 I THINK IT'S MINIMAL BECAUSE IT IS SUNDAY, AND
11:10:23 HISTORICALLY SUNDAY HAS BEEN FREE.
11:10:26 SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY LIKE FREE UNTIL ONE OR TWO IN THE
11:10:31 AFTERNOON.
11:10:31 I THINK THIS WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF CONCERNS OF FOLKS
11:10:34 DOWNTOWN.
11:10:35 I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK.
11:10:38 AND WHILE THIS IS UP IN THE AIR, AS WE FIGURE THIS OUT.
11:10:44 HOW MUCH TIME TWO YOU THINK LEGAL OR YOU YOURSELF, VIK,
11:10:47 WOULD NEED THAT WE CAN BRING THIS BACK UP AND COME TO A
11:10:51 SOLUTION?
11:10:53 A MONTH?
11:10:54 A FEW WEEKS?
11:10:59 >>VIK BHIDE: A MONTH WOULD SUFFICE.
11:11:01 WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO SOME POTENTIAL POLICIES.
11:11:07 BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SO
11:11:12 BACKGROUND ON THIS, BECAUSE WE HAVE MADE SOME
11:11:15 COMMENDATIONS.
11:11:17 WE THOUGHT DURING THE LONG-TERM NEED, WE DID LOOK AT -- I
11:11:23 THINK COUNCILMAN --
11:11:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE SOMETHING TO BRING UP WHEN YOU
11:11:30 ARE DONE, VIK.
11:11:31 WHEN YOU ARE DONE.
11:11:32 >>VIK BHIDE: SO WE DID CONSIDER THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND
11:11:38 THEIR NEEDS WITHIN THIS AREA.
11:11:43 IT'S A POLICY, AND THE PREVIOUS RULE EVERYTHING NORTH OF
11:11:47 KENNEDY.
11:11:52 SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE CREATED FREE
11:11:59 PARKING UNTIL 1 P.M. ON WEEKENDS FOR THE ENTIRE
11:12:03 COMMUNITY.
11:12:07 NOW, THE SOUTH STREET LOT IS GRANTED ABOUT 8 MINUTES
11:12:13 WALKING DISTANCE, WITHIN A LOT OF THE AREAS AROUND
11:12:17 TWIGGS, KENNEDY, ZACK, AND THIS IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
11:12:25 THIS HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT IS --
11:12:34 THEY CAN PARK ANYWHERE ON-STREET FREE OF COST FOR UP TO
11:12:39 FOUR HOURS.
11:12:40 SO WE HAVE THAT PROVISION ALSO.
11:12:45 AND THEN A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS WHERE, YOU KNOW,
11:12:53 THEY HAVE PARKING ON-STREET, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES AS
11:12:57 WELL THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, AND PARKING ON STREETS
11:13:02 IS FREE, IT'S MORE CONVENIENT TO PARK A BLOCK AWAY, AND I
11:13:06 UNDERSTAND -- AND I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IF WE GO
11:13:11 BACK TO THE PREVIOUS POLICY, 1350 SPACES, AND REALLY THE
11:13:19 NEED RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, OR THE CONDITION
11:13:22 WE ARE LOOKING AT, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, WE ARE IN
11:13:29 THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC, BUT IT WILL IN FACT OUR
11:13:32 LONG-TERM STRATEGY, THE PREVIOUS POINT, THE LONG-TERM
11:13:38 STRATEGY, THERE ARE IMPACTS TO IT.
11:13:39 ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
11:13:46 POPULATION GROWTH IS GOING TO BE SOUTH COUNTY, BUT THE
11:13:50 JOBS WILL STILL BE IN DOWNTOWN AND WESTSHORE AND THE
11:13:53 URBAN CORE.
11:13:54 AND THE CONCERN IS HOW WE WANT PEOPLE, OR HOW THEY WANT
11:13:59 THE COMMUNITY TO BEST ACCESS SOME OF THESE AREAS IN THE
11:14:03 LONG-TERM SUCH THAT WE MITIGATE.
11:14:13 SO REALLY THE SHORT TERM AND LONG-TERM AND THIS AND THAT,
11:14:17 AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING IN THE SHORT
11:14:20 TERM.
11:14:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:14:21 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:14:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:14:27 THANK YOU, VIK.
11:14:30 YOU KNOW, VIK AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH
11:14:33 YESTERDAY, AND FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK -- MR. CHAIRMAN, I
11:14:38 WILL BE GLAD TO SECOND YOUR MOTION.
11:14:40 I THINK THAT IN REGARD TO THE SUNDAY MORNING, THERE'S NO
11:14:45 COMPETITION FOR SPACES DOWNTOWN ON SUNDAY MORNING.
11:14:51 AND ON THE LIMITED NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO DO WANT TO COME
11:14:59 DOWNTOWN ON SUNDAY MORNING, I THINK WE HAVE TO WEIGH THE
11:15:03 COSTS AND BENEFITS.
11:15:05 AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
11:15:08 YES, COUNCIL DID THIS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON
11:15:14 IT, ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
11:15:16 BUT IT'S NOW POPPED UP AS A FLASH POINT AND I THINK WE
11:15:19 SHOULD ADDRESS IT.
11:15:20 I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS IT QUICKLY.
11:15:23 I THINK WE SHOULD RESCIND 20-122, AND RESCIND IT RIGHT
11:15:31 AWAY, PROBABLY IN OUR FEBRUARY WORK MEETING,
11:15:36 MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:15:37 AND LEGAL CAN FOLLOW UP BUT OTHERWISE QUICKLY, AND STAFF
11:15:47 CAN COME BACK TO US --
11:15:49 >>> MARCH 4.
11:15:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- WITH AN ADDITIONAL -- QUICKLY IN
11:15:57 FEBRUARY.
11:15:57 I THINK WE SHOULD RESCIND IT AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK
11:16:00 TO US AT SOME LATER DATE WITH SOME OTHER PROPOSAL.
11:16:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:16:05 SO I WOULD SAY TO RESCIND IT OR REPEAL IT, WHATEVER WORD
11:16:11 YOU WANT TO USE, FEBRUARY 4th, BUT VIK HAD MENTIONED
11:16:15 AT LEAST 30 DAYS WOULD PUT US MARCH 4th.
11:16:18 SO MARCH 4th STAFF CAN COME BACK WITH SOME SOLUTIONS
11:16:21 AND DISCUSSION, AND I AM HAPPY TO HELP, BECAUSE I HAVE MY
11:16:24 IDEAS OF HOW WE CAN DO THIS.
11:16:26 BUT SO WE'LL DO THAT.
11:16:28 COUNCILMAN CITRO THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON THEN COUNCILMAN
11:16:32 VIERA.
11:16:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM NOT LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE THING IN
11:16:38 ALL OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
11:16:40 MY THOUGHTS ARE NORTH FLORIDA TO THE WEST, PIERCE TO THE
11:16:44 EAST, KENNEDY TO THE SOUTH.
11:16:46 NOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHURCHES.
11:16:49 THEN WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO
11:16:52 ALONG WITH THOSE CHURCHES.
11:16:55 SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SUNDAY.
11:16:59 THEN YOU ARE TAKING AWAY THE OTHER NIGHTS OF THE WEEK
11:17:01 WHERE ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS MAY BE MEETING.
11:17:04 YOU ARE TAKING AWAY OTHER NIGHTS OF THE WEEK WHERE CHOIRS
11:17:08 MAY BE MEETING WITH THESE CHURCHES.
11:17:09 YOU ARE TAKING AWAY OTHER NIGHTS OF THE WEEK WHERE THESE
11:17:11 CHURCHES HOLD NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS OR NONPROFIT HELP
11:17:19 FOR THESE CHURCHES.
11:17:20 SO JUST TO SAY SUNDAY, I DON'T THINK YOU ARE DOING THE
11:17:23 GREATEST BENEFIT TO THESE CHURCHES.
11:17:26 YET, THAT'S WHERE THE PARISHIONERS GO IN TO WORSHIP.
11:17:30 BY THE THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE
11:17:33 YOUTH GROUPS, THAT ARE FRATERNAL ORGANIZATIONS, THAT HAVE
11:17:36 BEEN RELYING ON THESE PARKING SPACES FOR FREE.
11:17:39 SO THEIR MEMBERSHIPS CAN GO DOWN THERE OTHER DAYS THAN
11:17:43 SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, SATURDAY.
11:17:47 SO IN MY LITTLE SQUARE AREA, AGAIN, TWIGGS TO THE NORTH,
11:17:52 FLORIDA TO THE WEST, PIERCE TO THE EAST, KENNEDY TO THE
11:17:54 SOUTH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE REST OF THE WEEK,
11:17:59 AFTER 6:00, TILL 5:00 OR 6:00 THE NEXT MORNING, OR 6:00
11:18:05 UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
11:18:06 SO I'M JUST -- AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE DOWNTOWN GOES,
11:18:11 IN MY OPINION, RIP THE BAND-AID OFF, LET'S GO AHEAD AND
11:18:14 START CHARGING FOR PARKING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE
11:18:17 DESIGNATED AREA.
11:18:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
11:18:19 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:18:20 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:18:21 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M AGAINST ROLLING BACK THE WHOLE
11:18:28 ORDINANCE.
11:18:29 I THINK WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE ASK STAFF TO
11:18:32 COME BACK WITH SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THIS
11:18:36 ISSUE, AND BY THE WAY, I DON'T THINK YOU SAID IT YET,
11:18:40 VIK, BUT I THINK LEGAL HAS TOLD YOU THAT WE CAN'T JUST
11:18:44 TARGET CHURCHES.
11:18:44 IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING BROADER.
11:18:51 BUT WE GET A LOT OF E-MAILS, BUT FRANKLY WE ARE GOING TO
11:18:54 GET A LOT MORE E-MAILS ABOUT TOILET TAP NEXT WEEK.
11:18:57 SO I HOPE YOU ALL RESPOND SOME WAY ON THAT.
11:19:03 PURE TOILET WATER IS WHAT I AM CALLING IT NOW.
11:19:05 BUT, ANYWAY, WHAT I THINK THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS, IS
11:19:11 SOMETHING LIKE WHAT I SAID FOR YBOR WHICH IS WHERE WE
11:19:14 HAVE AN OPEN APP OR YOU SAID SERIES OF APPS AND YOU WILL
11:19:19 SET UP TENTS AND TRAIN FOLKS ON HOW TO USE THEM, AND THEY
11:19:24 WILL BE KIOSKS, BUT WHERE THEY CAN GET MAYBE TWO HOURS
11:19:27 FREE PARKING, AND WE CAN SET THE DAY OR WHATEVER.
11:19:30 BUT EVENTUALLY WE HAVE GOT TO SWITCH TO THIS KIND OF
11:19:32 SYSTEM.
11:19:32 AND MOST OF THE E-MAILS TALKED ABOUT COVID AS BEING
11:19:38 TEMPORARILY HURTING CHURCHES AND OTHER ACTIVITY IN
11:19:40 DOWNTOWN.
11:19:40 AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IF WE DO ANYTHING, IT
11:19:44 WOULD BE LIKE SURGICAL, SPECIFIC AREA TO MAYBE DELAY,
11:19:51 JUST DOWNTOWN ON SUNDAY FOR A FEW HOURS, MAYBE FOR A FEW
11:19:54 BLOCKS, WHILE YOU COME UP WITH A LONGER-TERM SOLUTION,
11:20:00 AND IN THE SHORT TERM, MAYBE IT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD
11:20:03 DELAY IT THROUGH ALL OF THIS YEAR, WHENEVER WE THINK
11:20:07 COVID IS GOING TO BE DONE.
11:20:08 THANK YOU.
11:20:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:20:11 GUDES.
11:20:11 THEN DINGFELDER.
11:20:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:20:16 AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON IN THE SENSE THAT
11:20:19 WHATEVER WE DO, WE OUGHT TO HAVE IT NARROWLY TAILORED.
11:20:23 I KNOW THAT -- AND I THOUGHT OF THAT AS WELL WHICH IS
11:20:25 OBVIOUS WE CAN'T TAYLOR THIS TO RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.
11:20:29 I PREFER TO CALL IT PARTNERS AND IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY,
11:20:33 INCLUDE CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, THAT COULD INCLUDE
11:20:35 RELIGIOUS, OR STRIKE THAT, ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAPPEN TO
11:20:38 BE RELIGIOUS.
11:20:38 SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BY PUTTING A FEE OR
11:20:44 ASSESSMENT, WHEN I USE THE WORD TAX, I DON'T MEAN
11:20:48 LITERALLY LIKE A TAX, BUT WHENEVER YOU PUT A FEE OR TAX
11:20:51 OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT OH ON SOMETHING, YOU ARE
11:20:54 GOING TO INADVERTENTLY DISCOURAGE BEHAVIOR.
11:20:59 AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, THE BENEFITS AND THE
11:21:03 DETRIMENTS OF THE PARTICULAR ACTION.
11:21:04 SO I THINK AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WE HAVE TO
11:21:08 NARROWLY TAILOR THIS OBVIOUSLY.
11:21:10 IT GOT ME THINKING BACK TO BACK IN 2010, 11, 12, ON
11:21:16 VIRTUALLY EVERY SINGLE SATURDAY NIGHT I WAS THERE WITH MY
11:21:19 SON AT SACRED HEART CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH IS ONE OF THE
11:21:22 BEST CHURCHES JUST REGARDLESS OF YOUR RELIGIOUS FAITH IF
11:21:26 ANY, IS A WONDERFUL INSTITUTION.
11:21:28 MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS USED TO GO THERE AND MY
11:21:32 GRANDMOTHER, AND MY UNCLE USED TO GO THERE LIKE 80, 85
11:21:37 YEARS AGO OR SO, SO I HAVE A LOT OF SENTIMENTALITY FOR
11:21:42 THAT CHURCH BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CIVIC INSTITUTIONS THAT
11:21:45 ARE RELIGIOUS AS WELL AS SECULAR THERE THAT COULD BE
11:21:48 DETRIMENTALLY AFFECTED BY THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE
11:21:50 A NARROWLY TAILORED WAY TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL AGENDA
11:21:54 THAT MOBILITY WAS TRYING TO HAVE IN TERMS OF PROMOTING
11:21:57 THIS.
11:21:58 THERE COULD BE SOME ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT WE DIDN'T
11:22:00 CONSIDER INITIALLY.
11:22:01 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE BUT LET'S MAKE IT NARROWLY
11:22:04 TAILORED AND COME BACK QUICKLY TO GET THE JOB DONE.
11:22:07 THANK YOU.
11:22:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES THEN DINGFELDER IF
11:22:11 WE CAN WRAP IT UP THERE.
11:22:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AS WELL.
11:22:17 I UNDERSTAND THE CHURCH.
11:22:20 I UNDERSTAND HOW CHURCHES FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THEIR BASE.
11:22:26 BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE CHURCH, I THINK THERE CAN BE SOME
11:22:30 ALTERNATIVES.
11:22:31 MOST CHURCHES I ATTEND, THEY HAVE A CHURCH VAN, A CHURCH
11:22:35 BUS.
11:22:35 I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A TROLLEY THAT RUNS ON SUNDAY.
11:22:38 I'M NOT TOO SURE.
11:22:39 THEN YOU HAVE A DESIGNATED SITE FOR THE CHURCH
11:22:42 PARISHIONERS, THAT TROLLEY CAN PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM
11:22:46 TO THE CHURCH.
11:22:47 THAT'S STILL TRANSPORTATION, SAFE FOR THEIR VEHICLES AS
11:22:53 WELL, AND A MECHANISM THAT CAN GET THEM TO THE CHURCH ON
11:22:56 TIME AND SO FORTH.
11:22:58 I MEAN, WE CAN CURTAIL SOME THINGS BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD
11:23:00 LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION AS WELL.
11:23:02 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CHURCH, AND
11:23:06 MOST OF THE E-MAILS I HAVE GOTTEN HAVE BEEN FROM THE
11:23:11 CHURCH.
11:23:14 MOST OF THE CHURCHES I HAVE ATTENDED THEY HAVE A CHURCH
11:23:16 VAN OR CHURCH BUS THAT DEAL WITH PARISHIONERS TO MAKE
11:23:19 SURE THEY GET TO THE CHURCH ON TIME, AND VEHICLES BEING
11:23:23 DROPPED OFF, SO THEY JUST MIGHT.
11:23:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THEN WE WILL
11:23:29 FINISH THERE.
11:23:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I NEVER MENTION CHURCH IN
11:23:40 REGARD TO THIS AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD.
11:23:42 I THINK PEOPLE WHO USE DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF
11:23:45 E-MAILS FROM DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS, AND THEY ARE CONCERNED
11:23:49 THAT IF THEY ARE GUESTS SPEND THE NIGHT ON A SATURDAY
11:23:52 NIGHT, THAT THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK, SO THIS IS BROADER
11:23:59 THAN JUST CHURCHES.
11:24:02 HERE IS MY PROBLEM, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, JUST LEAVE
11:24:09 IT UP TO THE STAFF AND SAY COME BACK TO US WITH
11:24:11 RECOMMENDATIONS, I HEARD MR. BHIDE LOUD AND CLEAR, AND I
11:24:16 TALKED FOR 45 MINUTES YESTERDAY, HE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF
11:24:20 CHANGING ANYTHING.
11:24:20 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I RESPECT IT.
11:24:23 AND I ADMIRE HIM, BECAUSE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.
11:24:30 IN A PERFECT WORLD,.
11:24:34 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE REALITY, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN
11:24:37 GUDES SEWED THIS, IS WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE
11:24:41 AT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- WITHOUT MUCH OF A STAFF,
11:24:51 HARDLY ANY DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER, AND NOW WE ARE SEEING
11:24:56 THE RESULTS OF IT.
11:25:01 I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS LONG AND HARD AND I FEEL IT'S
11:25:04 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT RIGHT NOW WE ROLL BACK THIS
11:25:07 ISSUE OF SUNDAY MORNING PARKING, OKAY?
11:25:11 NOT GOING TO CALL IT CHURCH.
11:25:13 NOT GOING TO CALL IT ANYTHING RELIGIOUS.
11:25:16 MR. CITRO, I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'S NOT CITY-WIDE.
11:25:20 IT'S LIMITED BASIS.
11:25:21 I DON'T HAVE THE STREET PARAMETERS EXACTLY, BUT, YOU
11:25:28 NOTICE, FRANKLY, IT SEEMS TO ME A PRETTY WIDE AREA NORTH
11:25:33 OF KENNEDY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:25:35 SO I THINK WE NEED TO ROLL THIS THING BACK AS QUICKLY AS
11:25:37 POSSIBLE, AND ON SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS AND ISSUES THAT
11:25:45 ARE A LITTLE MORE ATTAINABLE.
11:25:48 SO THAT'S -- HOW WE GET THERE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL LEAVE
11:25:52 THAT UP TO YOU SINCE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP
11:25:56 AND PUT IT IN A MEMO FORM AND I ADMIRE YOU FOR THAT.
11:25:59 BUT I FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT
11:26:03 QUICKLY AND STRONG DIRECTION TO MR. BHIDE.
11:26:07 THANK YOU.
11:26:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:26:08 AND MY MOTION WOULD BE ON FEBRUARY 4th THAT WE
11:26:14 RESCIND OR REPEAL ORDINANCE 2020-122, AND IN THE
11:26:19 MEANTIME, TEMPORARILY GO BACK TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE
11:26:21 PREVIOUS RULES, MEANING WE SUSPEND THAT ENFORCEMENT OF
11:26:25 THESE NEW RULES, AND MARCH 4th, IF STAFF WILL COME
11:26:32 BACK TO COUNCIL WITH AN UPDATE AS TO HOW WE CAN MOVE
11:26:36 FORWARD AGAIN.
11:26:37 I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO TRANSPORTATION, STAFF.
11:26:40 WE HAVE HEARD FROM ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:26:43 COUNCILMAN CITRO GAVE SOME SPECIFICS TO SOME BOUNDARIES.
11:26:47 COUNCILMAN CARL, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:26:50 EVERYBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING.
11:26:51 SO THAT IS MY MOTION, THAT FEBRUARY 4th WE BRING ON
11:26:57 THE AGENDA TO REPEAL ORDINANCE 2020-122.
11:27:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK, DID YOU GET THAT MOTION?
11:27:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN, TOO.
11:27:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:27:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
11:27:16 JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL.
11:27:19 THE SUBJECT MATTER IS COMING BACK PER YOUR MOTION, BUT
11:27:22 THE FLORIDA STATUTE DOES REQUIRE THAT ORDINANCES GO
11:27:27 FORWARD AS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS
11:27:31 OF TO TWO READINGS IN TITLE ONLY IS WHAT WE USUALLY DO,
11:27:39 SO I BELIEVE YOUR INTENTION IS ON BRINGING SOMETHING BACK
11:27:45 ON THE 4th, AND I SUSPECT MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT
11:27:50 WHATEVER LEGAL ISSUES MAY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN ORDER
11:27:55 TO EFFECTUATE THAT IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WE'LL WORK
11:27:59 WITH COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO INFORM YOU AS TO HOW BEST TO
11:28:02 PROCEED.
11:28:02 BASED ON YOUR MOTION.
11:28:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND IF WE NEED A SECOND READING
11:28:06 THERE, WE HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL REGULAR SESSION ON THE
11:28:09 18th OF FEBRUARY, SO IT STILL FALLS WITHIN THE --
11:28:14 SHOULD FALL WITHIN ALL THE LEGAL DATES BEFORE MARCH
11:28:19 4th BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:28:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:28:25 AGAIN, THE ISSUE WITH THE SECOND READING IS THE SAME
11:28:28 ISSUE WE HAD WITH THE PDA MATTER, IN THAT THE PUBLICATION
11:28:33 DEADLINE REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTE TELLS ME THAT ON
11:28:37 MARCH 4th WOULD BE YOUR EARLIEST SECOND READING, IF
11:28:40 YOU DO A FIRST READING.
11:28:42 AGAIN, COUNCIL, MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND MS. ZELMAN DID
11:28:46 REMIND ME -- THAT YOUR AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK IS PRETTY
11:28:52 MUCH SET AND READY TO ROCK AND ROLL.
11:29:00 THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED ON IN SOME FORM OR FASHION
11:29:03 AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT STATISTICALLY TO GET
11:29:05 IT ON THE 4th OF FEBRUARY.
11:29:07 >> STAFF WALKS ON ITEMS ALL THE TIME AT THE LAST MINUTE.
11:29:17 THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:29:20 I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WALK IT ON.
11:29:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M AN ACCOMMODATING GUY, AND I
11:29:30 DON'T ASK MUCH.
11:29:31 >>VIK BHIDE: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
11:29:39 WE MAY NOT NEED TO REPEAL THE ORDINANCE, THAT WE CAN
11:29:44 STILL WORK WITHIN THE EXISTING FRAMEWORK.
11:29:47 BUT I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW UP.
11:29:54 >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS
11:29:56 IS TO LEGAL OR WHATEVER -- INSTEAD OF RESCINDING THE
11:29:59 ENTIRE ORDINANCE, CAN WE JUST EFFECT A CERTAIN PARTLY OF
11:30:04 IT?
11:30:04 I WOULD BE WILLING TO VOTE FOR THAT, RESCINDING THE
11:30:07 ENTIRE ORDINANCE OPENS UP A WHOLE SET OF LONG DISCUSSIONS
11:30:10 AND WE CAN GET HUNDREDS OF MORE E-MAILS ABOUT OTHER
11:30:12 ISSUES RELATED.
11:30:14 MY SECOND QUESTION IS, SO IN THE SHORT TERM, IF THIS IS
11:30:18 GOING TO BE IN EFFECT MAYBE UNTIL MARCH 4th, DOES
11:30:23 CITY COUNCIL HAVE ANY POWER TO ASK OR RESTRICT THE
11:30:27 ADMINISTRATION FROM ENFORCING IT IN DOWNTOWN?
11:30:32 WE DON'T -- I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER THE
11:30:36 EXECUTIVE BRANCH, BUT CAN WE PASS SOMETHING THAT WOULD
11:30:42 PROHIBIT ENFORCEMENT OF IT?
11:30:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FRANKLY, WITH THAT ORDINANCE ON THE
11:30:47 BOOKS, TECHNICALLY NO.
11:30:50 YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:30:52 YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF
11:30:56 AGREEMENT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:30:58 BUT WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU FIRST SAID, IF IT'S THE
11:31:01 CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL TO RATHER RESCIND IT BUT TO AMEND,
11:31:08 TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IS, IF
11:31:14 IT'S CLEAR BY THE MAKER OF THE MOTION AND THE SECOND,
11:31:17 THEN THAT COULD BE INCLUDED.
11:31:19 ANOTHER OPTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, LEGAL DEPARTMENT,
11:31:21 TO SEE HOW TO ADDRESS THIS.
11:31:22 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I AM GOING TO TRY TO BE
11:31:27 HELPFUL AND SUPPORTIVE, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE LIMIT
11:31:29 YOUR MOTION TO THAT SECTION THAT PERTAINS TO THE
11:31:33 ORDINANCE, THAT PERTAINS TO DOWNTOWN, AND MAYBE EVEN
11:31:37 SPECIFICALLY SUNDAY.
11:31:38 BUT I WOULD BE OPEN IF YOU MADE A SECOND MOTION TO ASK
11:31:44 THE ADMINISTRATION NOT TO -- SAY IT IN A NICE WAY -- BUT
11:31:51 NOT TO PUNISH PEOPLE ON SUNDAY MORNINGS.
11:31:54 THE PROBLEM IS, WHATEVER WE DO TODAY, WHATEVER WE DO ON
11:31:57 FEBRUARY 4, IF IT TAKES ALL THE WAY TO MARCH 4, THERE ARE
11:32:01 GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF $35 TICKETS AND WE ARE GOING TO
11:32:03 GET THOUSANDS OF E-MAILS.
11:32:05 SO IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO?
11:32:06 I'M SURE THAT ADMINISTRATION IS WATCHING.
11:32:08 WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
11:32:10 BUT WE NEED A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION, THEN WE NEED A LONGER
11:32:14 TERM SOLUTION.
11:32:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:32:17 THAT'S THE MOTION.
11:32:20 >>GINA GRIMES: THIS IS GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
11:32:26 BOTH MR. CARLSON AND MR. SHELBY WERE CORRECT THAT WE CAN
11:32:30 DRAFT AMENDING THE PORTION THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY
11:32:39 CHANGED THAT WILL NOT HAVE TO APPLY CITY-WIDE AS FAR AS
11:32:41 THE CHANGES THAT YOU DISCUSSED.
11:32:43 SO WE CAN AMEND IT SO THAT IT APPLIES ONLY IN DOWNTOWN ON
11:32:48 CERTAIN DAYS.
11:32:52 WE CAN BRING IT BACK ON FEBRUARY 4th AS FAR AS THE
11:32:54 ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
11:32:56 MR. SHELBY IS CORRECT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY
11:32:59 TO DIRECT WHETHER OR NOT TO ENFORCE ORDINANCES THAT ARE
11:33:04 VALIDLY ADOPTED LAW.
11:33:06 BUT I WILL BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH MR. BHIDE AND THE
11:33:13 ADMINISTRATION YOUR REQUEST.
11:33:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, AGAIN, IF I MAY, THERE ARE
11:33:19 OTHER THINGS THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE AREA THAT I
11:33:22 SUGGESTED, TWIGGS TO THE NORTH, FLORIDA TO THE WEST,
11:33:26 PIERCE TO THE EAST, KENNEDY TO THE SOUTH, THAT DO OTHER
11:33:30 THINGS, NON-PROFIT THINGS, ON OTHER DAYS BESIDES SUNDAY.
11:33:42 SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PARISHIONERS ARE ASKING IF THEY CAN
11:33:44 GO TO VARIOUS PLACES BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT
11:33:46 HAPPEN THAT ARE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT I FEEL NEED
11:33:49 TO BE DISCUSSED ALSO, DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK.
11:33:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
11:33:53 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:33:56 I KNOW VIERA HAS HIS HAND UP.
11:33:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:34:04 MS. GRIMES ADDRESSED IT.
11:34:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:34:07 AGAIN, I AM GOING TO VOTE -- I WANT TO VOTE TO MOVE THIS
11:34:11 THING FORWARD ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT IN
11:34:14 A WISE WAY.
11:34:16 I THINK THE EXTREMELY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT COUNCILMAN
11:34:19 CARLSON TALKED ABOUT TO SORT OF HAVE IT NARROWLY TAILORED
11:34:22 NOT ONLY PROMOTES NOT DISCARDING EVERYTHING, BUT ALSO IT
11:34:27 PROMOTES FRANKLY USE OF DOWNTOWN, AND THE IDEA THAT WE
11:34:31 WANT PEOPLE TO USE DOWNTOWN.
11:34:33 THIS HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE USE
11:34:35 DOWNTOWN FOR ON THIS PARTICULAR DATE.
11:34:37 NOBODY ELSE IS DOWNTOWN ON SUNDAY MORNING EXCEPT FOR
11:34:41 PARISHIONERS AND WORKAHOLIC LAWYERS.
11:34:43 SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS NARROWLY TAILORED,
11:34:47 GETS TO THE CON KEN SUCCESS OF COUNCIL.
11:34:49 ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD REGARDLESS OF HOW
11:34:53 IT REASONABLY COMES.
11:34:55 BUT I THINK THAT'S A WISE WAY TO GO.
11:35:01 NOT EVEN A COMPROMISE.
11:35:02 I THINK IT GETS TO WHAT WE ALL WANT TO DO, FRANKLY.
11:35:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
11:35:07 MARTIN SHELBY.
11:35:09 JUST SO THE CLERK IS CLEAR AND THE RECORD IS CLEAR AND
11:35:11 THE INTENTION OF COUNCIL IS CLEAR AND LEGAL UNDERSTANDS
11:35:14 WHAT'S EXPECTED, THIS SEEMS TO BE AN AMENDMENT OR A
11:35:18 FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, I SUSPECT, UNLESS IT'S IN THE FORM OF
11:35:21 A MOTION, BUT RIGHT NOW, IS IT THE -- EXCUSE ME, MR.
11:35:30 MANISCALCO'S INTENT TO ACCEPT THE DISCUSSION?
11:35:31 QUESTION FOR THE CLERK, ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHAT THE MOTION
11:35:33 IS WITH REGARD TO THE SCOPE OF IT?
11:35:35 >>THE CLERK: NO, I AM GOING TO ASK FOR THE CHAIR TO
11:35:41 PLEASE CLARIFY THE MOTION. THANK YOU.
11:35:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IF WE CAN HAVE STAFF COME BACK
11:35:45 FEBRUARY 4th TO LOOK AT AMENDING OR WE DON'T HAVE TO
11:35:51 REPEAL THE ORDINANCE.
11:35:52 I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN DO AN AMENDMENT ON IT, BECAUSE
11:35:56 WE ARE LOOKING AT A NARROWLY TAILORED AREA WHICH IS IN
11:36:01 PARTS OF DOWNTOWN, AND WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON
11:36:03 ORDINANCE 2020-122, SO THAT COMES BACK UNDER STAFF
11:36:07 REPORTS.
11:36:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON FEBRUARY 4th, BY THE WAY, AND I
11:36:14 BELIEVE MS. GRIMES INDICATED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO
11:36:18 THAT, AND CONFERRING WITH THE DEPUTY CLERK, IF COUNCIL
11:36:20 DOES MAKE THIS MOTION TODAY, IT WILL APPEAR ON THE
11:36:22 AGENDA.
11:36:23 >> VERY GOOD.
11:36:24 THAT'S THE MOTION.
11:36:25 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:36:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:36:29 SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
11:36:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FANTASTIC, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:36:40 IF STAFF REPORT IS ADEQUATE IN TERMS OF NOTICE, USUALLY
11:36:43 WE PUT IT ON, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST READING SESSION, AS
11:36:47 OPPOSED TO STAFF REPORTS, BECAUSE VOTE ON IT ON FIRST
11:36:52 READING, I THINK IT SHOULD BE --
11:36:54 >>> MR. SHELBY.
11:36:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD POINT, COUNCILMAN.
11:36:58 MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO PLACE IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS,
11:37:00 BUT MARK IT AS I SAID FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION SO
11:37:03 THAT COUNCIL AT LEAST APPEARS ON THE AGENDA AS SUCH YOU
11:37:06 CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ANY DELAY.
11:37:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S THE SECOND ON THE MOTION.
11:37:15 THANK YOU.
11:37:15 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BHIDE, ALSO, ALONG THOSE LINES, WE
11:37:19 TALK A LOT ABOUT COMMUNICATION, AND AS WE SAID, THE
11:37:27 E-MAILS KEEP FLOWING IN, AND THEY ARE ANGRY AT THE MAYOR,
11:37:31 THEY ARE MAD AT US, THEY ARE MAD AT YOU.
11:37:33 IT WOULD HELP IF THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNICATION APPARATUS
11:37:38 COULD -- I KNOW YOU DON'T AGREE EXACTLY WITH THE T
11:37:41 CHANGES, BUT IT WILL BE GREAT IF YOU ALL COULD REACH OUT
11:37:44 TO THOSE GROUPS THAT ARE ORGANIZING AND EVERYBODY E-MAIL
11:37:50 US AND JUST GIVE THEM AN UPDATE, AND MAYBE LET THEM KNOW
11:37:53 THE OPTIONS, AND WHAT IT'S COMING UP SO THAT WHATEVER
11:37:57 ADVOCACY FOLKS ARE GOING TO DO, IT WILL BE INFORMED AND
11:38:00 TARGETED.
11:38:02 THANK YOU.
11:38:03 >>VIK BHIDE: SURE THING.
11:38:05 THANK YOU.
11:38:06 YES.
11:38:06 WE WILL REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE HEARD
11:38:08 FROM, AND OTHERS AS WELL WITHIN THE AREA.
11:38:12 I DO WANT TO -- AND WE MAY NOT NEED TO REVEAL THE CURRENT
11:38:22 POLICY, OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
11:38:26 WE MAY HAVE WITHIN THE DIRECT AUTHORITY, BUT WE'LL TAKE A
11:38:35 LOOK AT IT.
11:38:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:38:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT
11:38:44 BECAUSE DIRECTORS COME AND GOFF, STAFF COMES AND GO.
11:38:49 IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S WHAT THE
11:38:51 MOTION SAYS.
11:38:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:38:54 >>BILL CARLSON: AND IT'S NOT RESCINDING THE MOTION.
11:38:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, AMENDING.
11:38:58 WE DON'T NEED TO BE RESCIND IT.
11:39:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF POLICY.
11:39:04 IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW WE DO THIS, A QUESTION OF CHANGING
11:39:11 THE ORDINANCE.
11:39:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN BE HEARD.
11:39:13 I THINK WHAT MR. BHIDE RAISED MIGHT BE WHAT WAS ADDRESSED
11:39:16 EARLIER.
11:39:17 PRESENTLY UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, THE COUNCIL -- THE
11:39:21 DIRECTOR HAS THAT DISCRETION TODAY, THAT MIGHT EXPEDITE
11:39:25 IMPLEMENTATION IF THAT'S THE AGREEMENT OF THE
11:39:26 ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL.
11:39:29 IT MIGHT JUST TAKE SOME THINGS, IN TERMS OF RELIEF, THAT
11:39:33 YOU ARE SEEKING.
11:39:34 IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS.
11:39:39 DO YOU FOLLOW ME?
11:39:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE MOTION.
11:39:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT'S NOT THE INTENT BUT I BRING IT
11:39:46 TO COUNCIL AS AN OPTION THAT'S AVAILABLE PRESENTLY AS WE
11:39:49 SPEAK.
11:39:49 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. BHIDE?
11:39:51 AM I MISSTATING IT?
11:39:53 >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
11:39:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND IT.
11:39:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE GOT IT.
11:39:59 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:40:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:40:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE'S A DISCUSSION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
11:40:03 MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:40:07 SHALL WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS, MR. SHELBY?
11:40:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, YES.
11:40:14 PLEASE.
11:40:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:40:21 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
11:40:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THOUGHT CARLSON DID. THEN I WILL
11:40:36 CHANGE IT.
11:40:36 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:38 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:40:40 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:40:41 >> (ROLL CALL).
11:40:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH
11:40:58 COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.
11:41:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE THE GAVEL BACK, MR. CHAIR.
11:41:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:41:06 IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY E-MAILS WE HAVE GOTTEN WITH THIS
11:41:09 ISSUE.
11:41:09 BUT NOT A SINGLE E-MAIL SAID, WHAT ABOUT THE HOMELESS IN
11:41:13 DOWNTOWN TAMPA, WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS THAT
11:41:15 ARE DIGGING THROUGH TRASH LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO EAT,
11:41:17 PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THESE CHURCHES ON THE SIDEWALKS
11:41:20 THAT I SEE ALL THE TIME.
11:41:21 AND I KNOW PEOPLE SAY, OR MIGHT THINK IT'S THE GOVERNMENT
11:41:24 SAYING, BUT IT'S EVERYBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY, AND I HOPE
11:41:27 THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT ISSUE AS WELL, JUST AS A
11:41:31 COMMUNITY.
11:41:32 THAT'S MY SARCASTIC COMMENT.
11:41:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S REALITY.
11:41:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT IT'S TRUE.
11:41:39 THERE WAS AN UPROAR ABOUT THAT.
11:41:42 BUT HAVING SAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE
11:41:44 5, 6, 7 AND 8 ITEMS.
11:41:46 I WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT BY 12:30.
11:41:48 I KNOW THE DISCUSSION WENT LONGER THAN EXPECTED HERE SO
11:41:51 WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE BY LUNCH BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COME
11:41:53 BACK AT 5:00.
11:41:55 ITEM NUMBER 7 WILL COME FIRST.
11:41:58 AND THEN WE'LL GO -- YES, SIR?
11:42:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:42:02 FOR PURPOSES OF SCHEDULING, BECAUSE I HAD A LUNCH THAT'S
11:42:05 VERY, VERY FLEXIBLE, ABOUT YOU JUST SO I CAN TELL MY
11:42:08 INDIVIDUAL, WHAT TIME DO YOU THINK WE ARE GOING TO BREAK
11:42:12 FOR LUNCH?
11:42:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING TO BREAK
11:42:15 FOR LUNCH.
11:42:15 I WANT TO COMPLETE THE AGENDA BY 12:30.
11:42:18 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL TELL HIM.
11:42:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:19 GO AHEAD.
11:42:20 AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
11:42:20 >> THIS IS CHRISTINE GLOVER, DIRECTOR OF THE CITY'S
11:42:29 INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
11:42:31 I'M HERE TO CONDUCT A WORKSHOP ON PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW
11:42:38 OF THE AWED INTEREST DEPARTMENT AND WHAT WE DO.
11:42:41 I HAVE A POWER POINT.
11:42:43 I SEE THAT'S UP.
11:42:45 SO I PROVIDED BINDERS TO CITY COUNCIL.
11:42:48 I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE THOSE BINDERS BECAUSE I WILL BE
11:42:51 REFERRING TO THEM.
11:43:03 CAN I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE?
11:43:04 THIS IS THE AGENDA I AM GOING TO USE FOR THIS WORKSHOP.
11:43:08 AN OVERVIEW OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT ORGANIZATION
11:43:12 AND THE STANDARD THAT WE FOLLOW, HOW WE DETERMINE EXACTLY
11:43:19 WHAT IS ON THE AUDIT, OUR PROCESS FOR CONDUCTING THE
11:43:22 AUDIT, THE SUPPORTING PROCESS.
11:43:24 WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE,
11:43:28 AND ALSO THE DEPARTMENT'S PERFORMANCE.
11:43:33 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
11:43:38 SO WHAT I WANT TO DO HERE, WE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE
11:43:46 MAYOR, AND THAT'S HOW WE HAVE A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
11:43:51 THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:43:54 YOU SEE THE DOTTED LINE THERE.
11:44:01 AND WE HAVE CERTIFICATIONS FOR AUDITING, SO WE HAVE A
11:44:12 PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
11:44:15 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE COMPLY WITH THE GOVERNMENT -- AND
11:44:22 I HAVE IT NOTED ON THE BLOCK THERE -- AND WHAT THE
11:44:24 STANDARD DOES, IT PROVIDES FOR ETHICS, INDEPENDENCE,
11:44:28 PROFESSIONAL, AND QUALITY CONTROL AND ASSURANCE.
11:44:34 WE DO GET AUDITED, THE DEPARTMENT GETS AN EXTERNAL AUDIT
11:44:41 EVERY THREE YEARS, AN EXTERNAL AUDIT TEAM THAT THE
11:44:46 AUDITORS PUT TOGETHER FOR THAT, AND PEER REVIEW IS WHAT
11:44:56 IT'S CALLED OVER THE LAST YEARS, EVERY SEVEN YEARS, AND
11:45:06 DO A PEER REVIEW THAT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
11:45:12 THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL AUDITOR, THE PEER REVIEWS WE WENT
11:45:17 THROUGH.
11:45:18 IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
11:45:21 GOVERNMENT AUDIT STANDARD, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS A
11:45:26 WORLD CLASS INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
11:45:28 WE HAVE LOCALLY IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA AND PASCO, WE
11:45:41 HAVE -- THAT WE USE.
11:45:46 AND WE HAVE AN AUDITOR FROM -- AND THE CITY OF
11:45:54 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE, AND BOTH OF THOSE AUDITORS NOTED
11:45:57 SOME THINGS TO THEIR DEPARTMENT, SO IMPLEMENT IT AS WELL.
11:46:07 NEXT SLIDE.
11:46:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:12 SO UNDER TAB 2,
11:46:23 THAT'S THE AUDIT.
11:46:24 THERE ARE 160 ITEMS IN THAT AUDIT UNIVERSE, AND THE LIST
11:46:32 OF ALL AUDITS THAT WE CAN USE IN THE CITY.
11:46:37 WITH THE ON-SITE STAFF THAT WE HAVE, IT WOULD TAKE US
11:46:40 NINE YEARS TO AUDIT EVERY -- SO OF COURSE TAKE A RISK
11:46:49 BASED APPROACH SO THAT WE CAN HIT THOSE AREAS THAT ARE
11:46:55 HIGHER RISK.
11:47:04 A PROCESS FLOW ON THE SLIDE AS WELL.
11:47:08 SO THIS IS HOW WE DECIDE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO -- IT'S
11:47:12 ALSO IN YOUR BINDERS ON TAB 3.
11:47:16 THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS YOU DECIDE IN MAY, ACROSS
11:47:25 THE CITY, DIRECTORS AND ABOVE.
11:47:34 [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] AND
11:47:43 THE AUDIT UNIVERSE WITH ME, AND REVIEW THAT AND MAKE AN
11:47:48 UPDATE IF NECESSARY.
11:47:50 WE TALK ABOUT ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE.
11:47:53 AND THIS ALSO HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST -- A FEW
11:48:02 YEARS BACK, I WENT OUT TO MEETINGS AND I CAME BACK WITH
11:48:11 26 AUDITS THAT MET THAT REQUEST, AND IN ACTUALITY, IN THE
11:48:16 AUDIT UNIVERSE, IT WOULD TAKE US NINE YEARS IF WE DID 15
11:48:21 OR 20 AUDITS A YEAR, GIVEN THE SIZE OF OUR AUDIT STAFF
11:48:24 THAT WE HAVE.
11:48:29 LIKE I SAY, THE ACTIVITY STARTS IN MAY.
11:48:33 NEXT I SIT DOWN WITH MY STAFF.
11:48:34 AND WE HAVE A TOOL SO WE DO A RISK ASSESSMENT.
11:48:46 AND REFLECTED ACTIVITY, FISCAL IMPACT.
11:49:05 HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE THE LAST AUDIT.
11:49:08 YOU TAKE EVERY ITEM ON THAT AUDIT UNIVERSE, AND WE RISK
11:49:12 IT.
11:49:13 THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED, AS I MENTIONED IN THE AUDIT
11:49:22 UNIVERSE THAT YOU HAVE, AND ITEMS THAT ARE BASED ON OUR
11:49:35 RISK ASSESSMENT.
11:49:43 [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:49:47 IN OCTOBER AND IT'S BASED ON REQUESTS OF MANAGEMENT, RISK
11:49:52 ASSESSMENT, AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE COVERAGE ACROSS THE
11:49:55 CITY.
11:49:56 AND ONE GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT WILL BE THE FIRST COUPLE
11:49:59 YEARS I WAS AT THE CITY, WE DIDN'T DO ANY AUDITS IN PARKS
11:50:05 AND REC OR -- SERVICES SO WE HAVE TO GET ACROSS THE CITY.
11:50:11 ONCE THAT PLAN IS DEVELOPED, BASED ON RESOURCES WE HAVE,
11:50:19 WE CAN DEVELOP THE AUDIT PLAN, PUT IT TOGETHER, SEND IT
11:50:22 TO THE MAYOR, TYPICALLY IN AUGUST FOR REVIEW AND
11:50:26 APPROVAL.
11:50:30 BEING WITH THE CITY STAFF, I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT
11:50:33 PROCESS EIGHT TIMES.
11:50:35 EVERY YEAR EXCEPT ONE, THE MAYOR HAD APPROVED THE AUDIT
11:50:40 PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED.
11:50:44 ONE YEAR THE MAYOR ADDED SOMETHING TO IT BUT NEVER TOOK
11:50:47 ANYTHING AWAY.
11:50:47 AND SO ONCE THE AUDIT AGENDA IS APPROVED BY THE MAYOR,
11:50:52 THAT BECOMES OUR MODE OF OPERATION, AND WE PUSH PUBLISH
11:50:58 THAT AND THAT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY AT CERTAIN TIMES OF
11:51:10 THE YEAR [INDISCERNIBLE] AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND
11:51:35 WE DO A LOT OF RESEARCH ACTIVITY DEMANDING FISCAL
11:51:39 ACTIVITY, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, AND JUST ADDED
11:51:51 RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
11:51:52 SO THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE GO ABOUT DEVELOPING OUR
11:52:00 PLAN FOR AUDIT, AND ALSO IN YOUR BINDERS YOU CAN SEE THE
11:52:07 YEAR 2021 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
11:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
11:52:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HATE TO INTERRUPT BUT I NEED TO SHARE
11:52:15 THIS.
11:52:19 MR. SHELBY BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION.
11:52:21 THE EBO WORKSHOP WAS THE FIRST WORKSHOP PUT ON FOR
11:52:25 JANUARY AND WE KNEW IT NEED SOME TIME.
11:52:29 THE WORKSHOP AGENDA GOT CHANGED.
11:52:35 ALL THE WORKSHOPS DEALING WITH EPO UNDER THE AGENDA,
11:52:38 EVERYTHING ELSE HAS JUST COME FORWARD, GOT ON THE AGENDA.
11:52:42 RIGHT NOW IT'S GETTING READY TO GO ON 12.
11:52:44 THERE'S UNANIMOUS WAY MS. GLOVER IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO
11:52:46 FINISH HER PRESENTATION OF THE AUDIT, HOW IT WORKS, R,
11:52:50 AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL EBO AUDIT, AND ALSO MS.
11:52:54 GRIMES TO DEAL WITH THE ACTUAL ORDERS.
11:52:56 AND THEN GET TO THE EBO PORTION, WHICH EVERYONE IS
11:52:58 WAITING FOR, AND HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR MONTHS NOW TO
11:53:05 SEE WHAT THIS CONSULTANT HAS DONE, WHAT HE HAS NOT DONE
11:53:08 AND TO GO FORWARD.
11:53:09 FOR ME I WOULD ASK THAT WE LOOK AT LOOKING AT THAT TIME,
11:53:13 BREAK FOR LUNCH NOW, AT 12:00, AND COME BACK AT ONE
11:53:16 BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, WE HAVE
11:53:19 SPEAKERS HERE THIS MORNING, AND TO RUSH IT TO 12:30 I
11:53:25 THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND TO SOME OF THE
11:53:27 MEMBERS WHO REALLY WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:53:29 SO I ASK THAT WE BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12 AND COME BACK AT
11:53:32 ONE.
11:53:33 IF YOU -- I THINK TO GET EVERYTHING IN, THIS IS VERY
11:53:37 IMPORTANT, AND A CRITICAL ISSUE OF THIS COMMUNITY, OF
11:53:41 THIS BODY, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE ADMINISTRATION MAY PUT
11:53:43 FORTH THINGS, IF IT'S GOOD, IT'S GREAT FOR THE
11:53:45 ADMINISTRATION.
11:53:46 WE DON'T GET CREDIT.
11:53:47 AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF IT'S BAD, NO MATTER WHAT, WE
11:53:50 GET HANGED FOR IT AND NAILED NAILS IN THE COFFIN U.WANT
11:53:55 TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE
11:53:58 STAFF UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, VERSUS WHAT
11:54:00 THEY MAY HAVE GIVEN, SO I WILL ASK TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AT
11:54:05 12, SIR.
11:54:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL GIVE THAT YOU IF WE CAN COME
11:54:08 BACK AT 1:15.
11:54:10 SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS THAT WE ARE HERE
11:54:13 TOO LATE TOO LATE TONIGHT.
11:54:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS IMPORTANT.
11:54:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:00 AND
11:54:20 COME BACK AT 1:15.
11:54:22 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
11:54:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO OBJECTION AND I AM FINE SAYING
11:54:26 TILL WHATEVER.
11:54:27 THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY REGARDING TONIGHT, AND THIS
11:54:29 EVENING, IS THAT LAST WEEK, WE DEALT WITH HEARINGS AND
11:54:34 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS TILL 1:44 AT NIGHT.
11:54:36 I'M OF THE OPINION THAT WE HAVE HAD HEARINGS BEFORE THAT
11:54:42 GO THAT LATE AND THAT'S FINE.
11:54:43 BUT WE JUST CAN'T MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AFTER 12,
11:54:47 12:30, 1:00.
11:54:48 YOU GET TIRED.
11:54:49 I KNOW WE ARE WITHOUT GETTING INTO SPECIFICS, MR. THEY'RE
11:54:53 WERE SOME HEARINGS, AND I AM NOT SAYING I WAS TOO DARNED
11:54:56 TIRED BUT AT LEAST A PERSON COULD HAVE BEEN, SO I WOULD
11:54:58 JUST SAY WHEN IT COMES TO TONIGHT, LET'S TRY TO DEAL WITH
11:55:02 ALL THE ISSUES, BUT RUN THROUGH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF
11:55:04 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, TRY TO RUN THROUGH
11:55:07 THEM, YOU KNOW, CUTTING OUT AS MUCH FAT AS WE CAN,
11:55:10 BECAUSE IF WE ARE HERE AT 12:00 30 AND 1:00, 1:30 DEALING
11:55:15 WITH QUASI-JUDICIALS, THAT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE PUBLIC,
11:55:19 BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE AT OUR BEST.
11:55:21 JUST MY OPINION.
11:55:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:55:24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:55:25 I AGREE WITH THAT.
11:55:25 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:55:26 >>BILL CARLSON: IF STAFF COULD PLEASE HELP US.
11:55:29 WE TRIED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE HAVE, AND I
11:55:34 KNOW COUNCILMAN GUDES IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN GREAT ABOUT
11:55:37 PROTECTING THAT.
11:55:38 BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT IT'S UNFAIR TO US.
11:55:43 IT'S UNFAIR TO THE MEMBER.
11:55:45 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC EVERY WEEK COMPLAIN TO US BECAUSE
11:55:47 THEY HAVE TO STAY TILL MIDNIGHT OR ONE OR TWO AND I THINK
11:55:51 PROBABLY WE SHOULD HAVE FEWER CASES ON NIGHT MEETINGS.
11:55:54 THANK YOU.
11:55:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:55:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, PLEASE.
11:55:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:55:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE COULD TELL BY THE AMOUNT OF CITIZENS
11:56:00 THAT COME TO SPEAK ON WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO BE MORE
11:56:03 CONTROVERSIAL.
11:56:04 IT MIGHT BENEFIT NOT ONLY THE CITIZENS BUT US THAT
11:56:09 JUDGING BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK
11:56:11 FOR OR AGAINST WOULD BE THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL, AND HAVE
11:56:16 THOSE FIRST SO THAT THE CITIZENS CAN LEAVE AND THEN WE
11:56:21 CAN HEAR THOSE FIRST.
11:56:23 MAYBE WHILE OUR MINDS ARE CLEAR AS TO WHAT COUNCILMAN
11:56:26 VIERA HAS SAID.
11:56:27 BUT WE CAN ALWAYS GAUGE WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO BE
11:56:29 CONTROVERSIAL BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK FOR
11:56:32 OR AGAINST.
11:56:33 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:56:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:56:35 ALL RIGHT.
11:56:37 MS. GLOVER, GO AHEAD.
11:56:38 >> CHRISTINE GLOVER: OKAY.
11:56:42 SO THE NEXT ITEM -- CAN I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE?
11:56:52 OKAY.
11:56:52 NEXT AFTER THAT ONE.
11:56:59 SO THE NEXT THING I WANT TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
11:57:02 HOW WE GO ABOUT CONE DEDUCTING AN AUDIT.
11:57:05 AND THIS IS GOING TO LEAD INTO THE REPORTING PROCESS SO
11:57:08 IT'S KIND OF UNDERSTAND THIS AS WELL.
11:57:12 ONCE THE AUDIT AGENDA IS ASSIGNED, WE CONDUCT -- AND THEN
11:57:20 THE PLANNING STAGE.
11:57:21 THE PLANNING STAGE OF THAT AUDIT, POLICIES THAT PROCEED
11:57:26 WITH ENTER VIEW PERSONNEL AND CONDUCT WALK-THROUGHS IN
11:57:29 ORDER TO GAIN UNDERSTANDING OF THE KEY PROCESS NEEDS, AND
11:57:34 WE HAVE TO GET THOSE PROCESSES FLOWING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE
11:57:37 ARE SEEING HERE IN THE POWER POINT PRESENTATION, BUT
11:57:41 TYPICALLY A LOT MOWER POINTS.
11:57:47 WE HAVE MANAGEMENT REVIEW THOSE PROCESS FLOWS AND MAKE
11:57:51 SURE THEY REPRESENT THE WORK DONE, WE CAN DO AN ANALYSIS
11:58:00 OF THE INTERIM CONTROLS TO ENSURE THAT INTERIM --
11:58:09 [INDISCERNIBLE] AND CONDUCT A RISK ANALYSIS TO SEE WHAT
11:58:13 COULD GO WRONG IN THESE PROCESSES, WHAT CONTROLS ARE IN
11:58:16 PLACE, AND WHAT'S THE REMAINING RISK AND WHETHER THAT
11:58:19 RISK IS HIGH, MEDIUM OR LOW.
11:58:20 AND THEN AN APPEAL WORK PHASE OF THE AUDIT, WHAT WE DO IS
11:58:24 WE ARE GOING TO TEST THE CONTROLS THAT ARE IN PLACE SO
11:58:29 THEY ARE WORKING AS DESIGNED.
11:58:30 AND WHAT WE DO IS WE TEST THOSE HIGH-RISK CONTROLS, IF
11:58:35 IT'S MEDIUM RISK, BUT ITEMS THAT ARE LOW RISK, WE
11:58:40 TYPICALLY WILL NOT DO ANYTHING IN THAT PART UNLESS IT'S
11:58:46 SIGNIFICANT.
11:58:54 THEN WE GO FOR THE RECORD ARE REPORTING AND CONDUCT IF
11:58:59 IT'S NECESSARY AND THEN WE DIDN'T DISTRIBUTE THE REPORT.
11:59:03 AND I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
11:59:05 THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY BE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
11:59:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO STOP THERE AND WE CAN
11:59:15 START BACK AFTER LUNCH OR WILL THIS THROW EVERYTHING OFF?
11:59:20 >> NO, THAT'S FINE, TO START WITH THE REPORTING PROCESS.
11:59:23 I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE WORKSHOP, SO WE CAN TAKE OUR
11:59:28 TIME.
11:59:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE ARE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH.
11:59:31 WE ARE GOING TO PICK UP HERE AND BE BACK AT 1:15.
11:59:35 WE ARE IN RECESS.
11:59:38 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
11:59:45
01:16:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:24:58 WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
01:24:59 I CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
01:25:01 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:25:01 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:25:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:25:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:25:14 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:25:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:25:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] ALL RIGHT.
01:25:37 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: [INDISCERNIBLE] SO WHAT HAPPENS
01:25:45 ANYTIME WHETHER IT'S IN THE PLANNING STAGE OR PR WORK --
01:26:02 THAT WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
01:26:04 IN THE FIELD WORK PHASE, MAKE SURE THEY ARE WORKING, AND
01:26:12 THE WAY THE UNITS PARTICIPATE.
01:26:13 SO ANYTIME YOU MIGHT FIND A RECOMMENDATION, WE DOCUMENT
01:26:18 THAT ON A FORM CALLED AN AUDIT INQUIRY FORM.
01:26:22 THIS FORM HAS A RECOMMENDATION IN THE EXACT FORMAT THAT
01:26:27 YOU WOULD SEE IN AN AUDIT REPORT.
01:26:31 WE SEND THAT UP TO MANAGEMENT, AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
01:26:39 FROM THEM IS THEY APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, WHAT TO DO
01:26:44 TO CORRECT IT, OR SOMEHOW WE WOULD WORK THAT OUT THROUGH
01:26:52 THE AUDIT.
01:26:53 AT THE END OF THE AUDIT, THE INTENT OF THAT FORM, AT THE
01:27:00 END OF THE AUDIT, YOU TAKE ALL AUDITED FORMS THAT WILL BE
01:27:04 ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND ALL THE ONES THAT WE
01:27:07 CONSIDER REPORTABLE WE PUT IN A DRAFT REPORT.
01:27:12 SO MANAGEMENT IS NOT SURPRISED WHEN THEY SEE WHAT'S IN
01:27:16 THE REPORT BECAUSE THEY SAW THE AUDIT.
01:27:20 WE SEND THE DRAFT REPORT OUT TO MANAGEMENT AGAIN AND WE
01:27:24 CALL IT A REQUEST FOR FINAL REVIEW AND GIVE THEM ANOTHER
01:27:28 OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE REPORT IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND
01:27:30 MAKE FOR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE, THAT MAY BE CORRECT OR
01:27:36 WHATEVER, GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.
01:27:39 AT THE END, THEN THE DRAFT REPORT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF
01:27:48 AND THE MAYOR.
01:27:50 AND ONCE WE GET THAT FINAL FROM THE MAYOR, WE CONSIDER
01:27:54 THE REPORT FINAL, AND DISTRIBUTE IT BASED ON THE
01:27:58 ESTABLISHED POLICIES.
01:28:00 AND IF YOU ARE IN TAB 5 IN YOUR BINDER, IN ADDITION TO
01:28:05 THE PROCESS THAT WE JUST WENT OVER FOR THE REPORTING
01:28:10 PROCESS, IN THE POLICY THAT THE MAYOR SIGNS, AND THIS IS
01:28:16 WHAT WE FOLLOW, IN THE REPORT DISTRIBUTION.
01:28:21 I TALKED ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT AUDIT, AND HERE IS AN
01:28:26 EXCERPT FROM A DISCUSSION, TALK ABOUT INTERAUDIT
01:28:30 DEPARTMENT INDEPENDENT, AND UNREASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ON
01:28:35 THE TIME OF ENGAGING OR ISSUE A REPORT.
01:28:41 SO BASED ON THIS, WE ESTABLISH A POLICY THAT YOU SEE IN
01:28:44 NUMBER 3 IN THAT POLICY WHICH IS IF WE ISSUE A REPORT AND
01:28:50 THERE ARE NO RECOMMENDATIONS, THE CHIEF OF STAFF WILL
01:28:52 RETURN TO US [INDISCERNIBLE]
01:28:58 IF THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THE MAYOR HAS [~AUDIO CUTS
01:29:06 OUT~] AND RETURN IT TO US BECAUSE SOMETIMES HER
01:29:08 SCHEDULING IS SHE HAS SOMETHING GOING ON, BUT IF YOU
01:29:13 DON'T GET IT BACK THEN WE RELEASE THE REPORT WITHOUT HER
01:29:18 SIGNATURE.
01:29:20 AT THAT POINT, WE DISTRIBUTE THE REPORT, AND THAT
01:29:25 DISTRIBUTION INCLUDES CITY COUNCIL, EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT,
01:29:28 AND POST IT ON THE INTERNAL AUDIT PAGE OF THE WEBSITE.
01:29:35 NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I DO STRESS IS HOW LONG THAT
01:29:40 DISTRIBUTION PROCESS TAKES TO SEND IT TO THE MAYOR, AND
01:29:45 IN FISCAL YEAR 2020, THE NUMBER OF DAYS THE REPORT WAS
01:29:52 COMPLETED DURING HER ADMINISTRATION WAS NINE DAYS.
01:29:56 SO WE AVERAGE NINE DAYS FOR GETTING THE REPORT BACK TO
01:29:59 US, AND SO FAR IN FISCAL YEAR 2021, IT'S AVERAGING ABOUT
01:30:03 11 DAYS RETURNING TO STAFF.
01:30:12 NEXT SLIDE.
01:30:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE GO ON, ARE THERE
01:30:18 QUESTIONS?
01:30:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT, CHRISTINE,
01:30:24 BACK UP ONE?
01:30:26 IN REGARDS TO THIS DRAFT REPORT, TO THE MAYOR, I KNOW
01:30:31 THAT YOU OPERATE UNDER A LOT OF LIKE SORT OF NATIONAL
01:30:35 STANDARD AND BEST PRACTICES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
01:30:42 GETTING BACK TO HOW THIS RELATES TO THE NATIONAL
01:30:43 STANDARDS AND ALL.
01:30:48 IT'S A DRAFT REPORT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR EVEN PART OF THE
01:30:51 BEST PRACTICES AND NATIONAL STANDARDS?
01:30:53 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: WELL, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH
01:30:56 MANAGEMENT HAVING A FIRST REVIEW BEFORE IT'S PUBLISHED.
01:30:59 THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE
01:31:02 PROCESS.
01:31:03 WHEN WE GIVE THE AUDIT INQUIRIES TO MANAGEMENT, I MEAN, A
01:31:08 LOT OF TIMES, IF IT'S SIGNIFICANT IT REQUEST RISE TO THE
01:31:13 LEVEL OF THE MAYOR TO GET TO THE REPORTING PROCESS.
01:31:16 SO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MANAGEMENT KIND OF FIRST
01:31:19 LOOKING.
01:31:20 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT.
01:31:22 BUT THE PROBLEM COMING IN IS IF THAT PROCESS HOLD UP THE
01:31:30 REPORT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
01:31:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT DIDN'T EXACTLY ANSWER MY
01:31:40 QUESTION AS RELATES TO NATIONAL PRACTICES AND BEST
01:31:42 STANDARD, BUT FOR BEST PRACTICES, MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY
01:31:45 THAT.
01:31:46 BUT I GUESS MY KEY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE POINT OF THAT
01:31:52 FINAL REVIEW BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF OR THE MAYOR?
01:32:00 WE HAVE A WONDERFUL STAFF AND WONDERFUL MAYOR RIGHT NOW,
01:32:03 BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE.
01:32:05 SO WHAT IF THIS CITY AND THIS COMMUNITY HAD AN EVIL MAYOR
01:32:11 AND AN EVIL CHIEF OF STAFF, AND THEY WERE STILL OPERATING
01:32:16 UNDER THIS PRACTICE?
01:32:18 COULD THEY AT THAT POINT IN TIME DURING THAT 40-DAY
01:32:23 REVIEW, YOU KNOW, COULD THEY DOCTOR IT UP AND SEND IT
01:32:26 BACK AND SAY REJECT IT, AND, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE POINT OF
01:32:30 HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL REPORT PERIOD OF 40 DAYS ON SOME
01:32:38 FUTURE MAYOR'S DESK?
01:32:40 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: SO ANOTHER REASON WHY EARLIER OF
01:32:45 THIS WORKSHOP, I TALKED ABOUT HOW WEIGHED THOSE TEN
01:32:50 PROFESSIONAL LICENSES OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT STAFF, AND I
01:32:54 TALKED ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS.
01:32:56 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE STANDARDS, AND WE HAVE
01:33:01 ETHICS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH, WITH OUR
01:33:04 CERTIFICATIONS AS WELL.
01:33:06 IF IT'S NOT CERTIFIED, THEY CAN TAKE OUR LICENSE AWAY,
01:33:09 AND IN THAT PERIOD, WHEN THEY COME TO LOOK AT US, IF IT
01:33:14 APPEARS OR WE GIVE THE APPEARANCE THAT IT'S TAKEN THIS
01:33:21 PERIOD OF TIME TO GET THE AUDIT, THAT IT'S NOT IN
01:33:24 COMPLIANCE WITH THE AUDIT STANDARDS, AND THAT WOULD BE
01:33:26 VERY BAD.
01:33:33 FURTHERMORE -- THAT'S OUR LICENSE.
01:33:40 THE ONLY THING THE CITY CAN DO IS TERMINATE US.
01:33:43 BUT IF WE ARE NOT LICENSED, WE CAN'T GET A JOB ANYPLACE
01:33:47 ELSE.
01:33:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT CIRCLING BACK TO MY ORIGINAL
01:33:50 QUESTION, WHICH IS WHY DO WE HAVE SUCH A LONG REVIEW
01:33:56 PERIOD IN THERE OF 40 DAYS POTENTIALLY 40 DAYS?
01:34:01 I UNDERSTAND MAYOR CASTOR IS VERY QUICK AND THOROUGH AND
01:34:04 GETS IT DONE IN TEN DAYS.
01:34:05 WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE A 10 OR 15 DAY REVIEW PERIOD THERE
01:34:10 INSTEAD OF 40 DAYS?
01:34:12 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: WELL, WE COULD HAVE THAT, AND
01:34:14 ACTUALLY PRIOR TO -- MAYOR CASTOR'S POLICY ON HOW LONG
01:34:22 THAT POLICY TAKES.
01:34:24 BUT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION CAME IN, I PRESENTED TO THEM
01:34:27 AS THAT BEING A PROBLEM, THAT WE COULD BE PERCEIVED AS
01:34:35 NOT BEING INDEPENDENT.
01:34:36 SO THIS IS WHAT WE NEGOTIATED, ACTUALLY PUT SOMETHING IN
01:34:40 PLACE.
01:34:40 THERE WAS NO POLICY PREVIOUS TO HOW LONG THAT COULD BE
01:34:46 HELD.
01:34:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
01:34:47 SO WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS, AND MAYBE WE CAN EVEN
01:34:51 IMPROVE IT FURTHER IN THE ORDINANCE.
01:34:52 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:34:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS WE KIND OF CLEARED SOME OF THAT
01:35:08 UP, BUT IF I SUBMIT THE AUDIT, I SUBMIT THE AUDIT, SO
01:35:16 THIS GRACE PERIOD FOR HOW LONG TO REVIEW IT, I'M CLEAR ON
01:35:20 THAT.
01:35:20 YOU ARE TRYING TO CLEAR IT UP.
01:35:23 FOCUSED ON THAT PORTION AND I DON'T SEE WHY YOU HAVE THAT
01:35:25 LONG PERIOD TO REVIEW.
01:35:27 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: THAT'S WHAT WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE
01:35:36 ADMINISTRATION, THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE
01:35:42 FOR APPEARANCE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEGOTIATED, THAT BEING
01:35:46 A REASONABLE TIME PERIOD OF TIME, AND WE ARE NOT ANYWHERE
01:35:53 NEAR THAT TIME PERIOD AT ALL.
01:35:58 BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT APPEARANCE, THAT THERE
01:36:05 IS SOME RESTRICTION ON IT.
01:36:06 BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MANAGEMENT AT FIRST LOOK.
01:36:12 SO THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE AUDIT.
01:36:15 IT'S NOT OUR INTENT TO SURPRISE ANYBODY, AND WE WANT TO
01:36:20 MAKE SURE -- WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT WE FIRE
01:36:27 THEM, REPRIMAND THEM, THAT IT'S NOT FACTUAL THAT WE HAVE
01:36:31 THE REPORT, AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
01:36:34 LIKE I SAID, IT HAS TO BE WHAT WE NEGOTIATED AT THIS
01:36:40 POINT IN TIME.
01:36:41 THERE WAS NOTHING THERE BEFORE.
01:36:43 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, I JUST HAVE TO WEIGH IN.
01:36:46 THE HYPOTHETICAL THAT COMMISSIONER -- COUNCILMAN
01:36:51 DINGFELDER DREW OUT THERE IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL.
01:36:53 IT HAPPENED FOR EIGHT YEARS.
01:36:55 WE HAD A MAYOR THAT YOU SERVED UNDER PARTLY WHO THE
01:36:59 COMMUNITY FELT WAS AT THE VERY LEAST INCOMPETENT AND
01:37:04 UNETHICAL AND A BULLY, BUT THE ALLEGATION WAS THAT THE
01:37:07 LAST MAYOR SAT ON AUDITS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND
01:37:10 MONTHS.
01:37:11 CITY COUNCIL, I REMEMBER, WAS VERY FRUSTRATED AND THAT'S
01:37:13 WHY IT WENT TO A CHARTER.
01:37:15 THE QUESTION IS, HOW WOULD ANYBODY KNOW, THE ALLEGATION
01:37:19 THERE WAS HE WAS HOLDING ONTO THE REPORT SO HE COULD FIX
01:37:22 THE PROBLEMS SO THAT BY THE TIME HE WENT TO THE MEDIA,
01:37:25 AND THE CITY COUNCIL, HE WOULD HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEMS
01:37:28 ALREADY.
01:37:28 BUT HOW WOULD ANYBODY HAVE KNOWN IF HE WOULD LEAD YOU ALL
01:37:32 TO CHANGE SOMETHING?
01:37:32 AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HYPOTHETICALS FOR THE FUTURE
01:37:34 BECAUSE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT COULD COME BACK AGAIN
01:37:37 CONCEIVABLY.
01:37:39 BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE, THERE HAS TO BE CHECKS AND
01:37:43 BALANCES, AND WITH THAT SYSTEM, FOLKS I TALKED TO AT THE
01:37:45 TIME FELT LIKE EVERYTHING WAS ONE SIDED.
01:37:48 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: WELL, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT'S
01:37:56 WHERE PEER REVIEW COMES IN.
01:37:58 THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT BULLIES.
01:38:05 THEY CAN FIND THE CITY NOTE BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH
01:38:07 STANDARDS, AND I BELIEVE THAT -- (MICROPHONE FEEDBACK).
01:38:15 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD JUST SAY THIS AND I WILL BE
01:38:27 QUIET.
01:38:27 AS WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND EVEN IN OUR OWN
01:38:30 COUNTRY AND LOCALLY, IF SOMEONE IS SOMEWHAT CHARISMATIC
01:38:33 AND CONVINCES THE PUBLIC THAT AND THE MEDIA ISN'T DOING
01:38:38 THEIR JOB, THAT SOMETIMES COVERS THE REALITY THAT WE HAVE
01:38:40 BEEN DEALING WITH THE LAST TWO YEARS IS THAT THE CITY HAD
01:38:42 ALL KINDS OF -- FROM RACE RELATIONS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF
01:38:47 THE CITY, ALLOWING RATS TO RUN AROUND.
01:38:51 THE CITY WAS NOT PROFESSIONALLY DONE BEFORE THIS
01:38:53 ADMINISTRATION TOOK OVER.
01:38:57 AND SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AUDIT OR SOME OTHER THING
01:39:00 WE CALL IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT THE
01:39:03 CITY COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE OVERSIGHT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC
01:39:05 DIDN'T KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC STILL KNOWS HOW
01:39:08 BAD THE SITUATION WAS.
01:39:09 THE ECONOMY HAPPENED TO DO WELL, BUT EVEN IF YOU TRACKED
01:39:12 THE ECONOMICS OF IT, TAMPA DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS OTHER
01:39:15 CITIES.
01:39:16 WE WERE A FAILURE IN MANY, MANY WAYS.
01:39:20 AND WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE HONEST INSIGHTFUL INFORMATION TO
01:39:25 HOLD THAT ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE.
01:39:27 THIS ADMINISTRATION IS GREAT AND WE ARE ALL WORKING
01:39:30 COLLABORATIVELY BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY LIKE THAT
01:39:32 COMES BACK AND HOW DOING WE DEAL WITH IT TO MAKE SURE WE
01:39:35 DON'T ALLOW INCOMPETENT AND UNETHICAL COMPETENT TO RUN
01:39:41 SUPREME.
01:39:42 >>GINA GRIMES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS GINA GRIMES.
01:39:45 I JUST WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS.
01:39:48 YOU HEARD MS. GLOVER SAY THAT THERE ARE NOW POLICIES IN
01:39:52 PLACE, THAT TIME FRAME FOR THE MAYOR AND CHIEF OF STAFF
01:39:57 TO REVIEW THE COMPLETED AUDIT.
01:39:59 SO THE ISSUES THAT YOU RAISE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
01:40:02 PAST IS NO LONGER RELEVANT.
01:40:04 THE OTHER THING I DO WANT TO MENTION IS AS ALL OF YOU
01:40:07 KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO IMPLEMENT A CHARTER
01:40:12 PROVISION, AND WHAT THAT CHARTER PROVISION AUTHORIZES
01:40:17 COUNCIL TO DO IS TO REQUEST AUDITS.
01:40:20 I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT TO AUTHORIZE COUNCIL
01:40:24 TO DIRECT ALL OF THE AFFAIRS OF THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
01:40:27 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FALLS SQUARELY WITHIN THE POWERS
01:40:31 AND AUTHORITY OF THE MAYOR UNDER THE CHARTER UNDER
01:40:35 SECTION 4.01 OF THE CHARTER.
01:40:37 SO I KNOW WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO
01:40:41 ADDRESS NEXT, BUT I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO ALLOW THAT TO
01:40:49 LEAD INTO WE NEED TO ADOPT POLICIES ABOUT HOW THE AUDIT
01:40:53 DEPARTMENT IS OPERATED BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
01:40:56 WITHIN THE AUTHORITY ONLY OF THE MAYOR.
01:40:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:41:07 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: AND WHAT WE ARE DOING AS FAR AS THAT
01:41:09 REVIEW, IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARDS.
01:41:11 IT'S NOT OUTSIDE OF STANDARDS.
01:41:15 IN FACT STANDARDS REFLECT FLEXIBILITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE
01:41:22 PEER REVIEW ... [INDISCERNIBLE]
01:41:29 OKAY, COULD I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE?
01:41:37 UNDER POLICIES.
01:41:44 SO A FEW AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
01:41:49 POST AUDIT IS BASICALLY A FOLLOW-UP REVIEW FOR SIX,
01:41:54 TWELVE MONTHS, TO ISSUE A REPORT WHERE WE HAD
01:41:56 RECOMMENDATIONS, WE GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT MANAGEMENT
01:42:01 HAS ADDRESSED WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION WAS, WHATEVER
01:42:05 THE FINDING WAS, AND WE DO ISSUE A REPORT BACK TO THE
01:42:08 MAYOR, AND THE RELEVANT MANAGEMENT INDICATING WHETHER
01:42:13 THEY ARE COMPLIANT OR NOT.
01:42:20 WHERE WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION.
01:42:21 NOW, A NON-AUDIT SERVICE IS AN AUDIT WE CAN DO AS
01:42:29 REQUESTED BY MANAGEMENT SO SOMETIMES EXPERTISE CAN BE
01:42:38 USED AS LONG AS WE HAVE GOT --
01:42:44 AND ESTABLISH A WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH MANAGEMENT
01:42:46 REGARDING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND THEM BEING
01:42:50 RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU ... TO ORACLE.
01:43:02 THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS BETWEEN FINANCE AND HUMAN
01:43:06 RESOURCES REGARDING THE ROLES THAT ARE PLAYED IN THE
01:43:09 PROCESS BY THE TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
01:43:11 AND SO WHAT WE DID, WE DID OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT USED
01:43:20 ORACLE, AND HOW THOSE GOALS ARE SEPARATED AND THEN WE
01:43:25 PROVIDED REVENUE AND FINANCE AND USE THAT INFORMATION TO
01:43:30 HELP STRUCTURE THEMSELVES APPROPRIATELY.
01:43:32 SO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES LIKE CHAPTER 625
01:43:39 COMPLIANCE, THAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT I GUESS A
01:43:43 LITTLE LATER TODAY.
01:43:43 A THIRD THING THAT WE HAVE, AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, IS
01:43:51 THE CITY'S HOTLINE.
01:43:54 THOSE CALLS, THEY COME TO US, AND WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
01:44:01 REGARDING HOW WELL WE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED OR WHO
01:44:05 INVESTIGATES, HR, SOMETIMES WE MIGHT INVESTIGATE, AND WE
01:44:11 HAVE THAT HOTLINE TO MAKE SURE EVERY CALL THAT COMES IN
01:44:15 IS FOLLOWED THROUGH TO COMPLETION.
01:44:21 SO THOSE ARE AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY.
01:44:24 GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
01:44:26 I JUST WANT YOU TO LOOK AT ANNUAL PERFORMANCE. IN YOUR
01:44:31 BINDER UNDER TAB 6, YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT, AND IT'S A
01:44:39 WHOLE REPORT THAT WE DO ANNUALLY TO LOOK AT THE
01:44:43 PERFORMANCE OF THE DEPARTMENT.
01:44:44 HE WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF SLIDES IN THAT REPORT.
01:44:47 AND THIS SHOWS OUR ACTIVITY.
01:44:48 AND YOU LOOK BACK AT 2015 TO WHERE WE HAD NUMBER OF
01:44:56 AUDITS COMPLETED, SERVICE AS LONG THOSE LINES, AND
01:45:04 STARTING 2013 THAT ALLOWS US, TO MAKE IT 12 OR 13, GET UP
01:45:12 TO THE 19 OR 20 RANGE.
01:45:14 THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE GET A LOT MORE OF OUR SERVICES
01:45:20 IN [INDISCERNIBLE]
01:45:24 CAN I SEE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE?
01:45:28 THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS SOME PERFORMANCE MEASURES PER
01:45:31 DEPARTMENT.
01:45:32 THESE ARE NATIONAL METRICS, THE AVAILABLE TIME, HOW MUCH
01:45:39 TIME THE AUDITOR IS AVAILABLE VERSUS TRAINING OR SOME
01:45:46 OTHER NECESSARY FUNCTIONS, AND ALSO TOTAL TIMES.
01:45:50 I KIND OF LIKE AVAILABLE TIME, BECAUSE SOMETIMES, BENEFIT
01:45:55 TIMES -- SO 80% OF THOSE DIRECT TIMES ARE STANDARD.
01:46:04 SO AVAILABLE TIMES, AND 7% IS DIRECT TIMES.
01:46:12 YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE PERFORMING VERY WELL IN MEETING
01:46:16 THOSE.
01:46:18 OKAY.
01:46:19 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
01:46:23 SO ALSO IN TAB 7 IN YOUR BINDER, THIS IS JUST A FRONT
01:46:30 PAGE.
01:46:31 WE HAVE A REPORT [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] PEER REVIEW AND FOUND
01:46:40 WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARD.
01:46:42 YOU HAVE THE FULL REPORT IN THE BINDER.
01:46:48 NEXT SLIDE.
01:46:54 I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SKIP OVER THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
01:46:56 THAT GOES INTO THE DRAFT.
01:46:59 NEXT SLIDE.
01:47:02 I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING
01:47:06 THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
01:47:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
01:47:08 ANY QUESTIONS?
01:47:12 HEARING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:47:13 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.
01:47:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE'LL TAKE ITEM NUMBER 8,
01:47:23 WHICH IS PART 2 OF THIS.
01:47:28 ITEM NUMBER 8.
01:47:29 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY PRESENTING A DRAFT
01:47:33 ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
01:47:39 >>GINA GRIMES: GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.
01:47:41 THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE TO
01:47:44 IMPLEMENT A CODE 15 CHARTER AMENDMENT REGARDING A REQUEST
01:47:49 BY CITY COUNCIL.
01:47:51 I WAS ASKED TO PREPARE THIS ORDINANCE, AND BRIEFLY
01:47:55 BROUGHT IT BEFORE COUNCIL BACK IN DECEMBER.
01:47:57 AT THAT TIME, A COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTED
01:48:00 SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO IT, WHICH WERE MADE AND
01:48:03 PRESENTED TO YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
01:48:06 LAST EVENING AND THEN THIS MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCILMAN
01:48:10 DINGFELDER AND I DISCUSSED SOME ADDITIONAL MINOR WHAT WE
01:48:14 CALL TWEAKS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO IT.
01:48:18 IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE
01:48:21 EFFICIENT TODAY IF RATHER THAN GIVING A PRESENTATION ON
01:48:25 THIS ORDINANCE IF WE GO BACK OFFLINE AND ADDRESS THOSE
01:48:31 TWEAKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AND THEN BRING IT BACK IN
01:48:37 ANOTHER MONTH WITH ALL THE CHANGES, AND I THINK AT THAT
01:48:39 POINT WON'T HAVE A LONG PROTRACTED DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
01:48:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WERE YOU THINKING, THE 18th
01:48:48 MEETING OR LATER AT THE MARCH 4th MEETING?
01:48:51 >>GINA GRIMES: I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO COUNCILMAN
01:48:53 DINGFELDER.
01:48:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOUR
01:48:56 PLEASURE.
01:48:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH
01:48:59 WILL BE FINE.
01:49:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:49:01 MAY I HAVE A MOTION THEN TO CONTINUE THIS TO MARCH
01:49:03 4th?
01:49:06 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:49:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
01:49:08 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:49:10 ALL RIGHT.
01:49:10 OPPOSED?
01:49:11 GREAT.
01:49:12 THANK YOU.
01:49:13 ALL RIGHT.
01:49:15 NEXT UP WE GO TO THE EBO ITEMS, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 7 --
01:49:23 I'M SORRY.
01:49:26 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER 6 FIRST AND THEN TAKE
01:49:29 ITEM NUMBER 5.
01:49:43 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: I'M BACK.
01:49:45 EXPLAIN IN A WORKSHOP, AND I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE EBO
01:49:53 WORKSHOP COMING UP,
01:49:57 REQUEST THAT CHIEF OF STAFF ESTABLISH A BASELINE FOR THE
01:50:04 UPCOMING WORKSHOP AND ORDINANCE, EBO.
01:50:10 WE LAST DID A FULL AUDIT ON THE MINORITY BUSINESS OFFICE
01:50:16 IN 2019.
01:50:17 THE REPORT IS AUDIT 1904 PUBLISHED APRIL 22ND, 2019, AND
01:50:23 THAT REPORT IS ON THE CITY'S INTERNAL AUDIT PAGE.
01:50:28 THIS REVIEW WAS A REVIEW OF CHAPTER [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]
01:50:35 AND COMPLIANCE REVIEW.
01:50:37 SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THAT AS WELL.
01:50:40 SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND
01:50:45 LISTED OUT EVERY AREA OF COMPLIANCE FOR THE CITY.
01:50:50 WE SCHEDULED THAT, AND WE SENT IT OUT TO THE MAJOR
01:50:55 AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS.
01:50:56 THOSE DEPARTMENTS WERE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY OFFICE,
01:51:00 PURCHASING, AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
01:51:04 AND WHAT WAS REQUESTED FROM THAT, THAT THE MANAGEMENT
01:51:07 STAFF OF EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS WAS FOR THEM TO GIVE US
01:51:12 FEEDBACK ON IF THAT IS IN THEIR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY,
01:51:17 WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO OBTAIN COMPLIANCE AND ACTUALLY
01:51:21 GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES.
01:51:23 AND SO WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION BACK FROM THOSE
01:51:25 DEPARTMENTS, WE REVIEWED THE INFORMATION, AND WHERE WE
01:51:30 NEED CLARIFICATION, WE MET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO
01:51:34 ESTABLISH WHAT THEY WERE DOING, AND WHETHER THAT MET THE
01:51:38 REQUIREMENT, THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE.
01:51:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:51:49 CAN'T COMPLETE A FULL AUDIT.
01:51:51 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: OKAY.
01:51:55 I THOUGHT I SENT YOU A COPY OF THAT REPORT IN THE PAST.
01:52:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T THINK IT WAS TOTALLY COMPLETE.
01:52:02 I THOUGHT 2019 -- I DON'T SEE WHERE IT WAS TOTALLY
01:52:06 COMPLETED.
01:52:06 BUT GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.
01:52:07 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CORRECT, GOT THE RIGHT
01:52:10 INFORMATION ON THAT.
01:52:10 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: OKAY, YEAH, WE PUBLISHED A REPORT OF
01:52:14 THAT, THE MINORITY -- IN APRIL OF 2019.
01:52:20 OKAY.
01:52:20 SO WE SELECTED SAMPLES TO MAKE SURE WE WERE MEETING THE
01:52:28 ELEMENTS OF CODE COMPLIANCE.
01:52:30 WE LOOKED AT ITEMS, SHELTER, LOOKED AT DISCOUNTS WERE
01:52:36 APPLIED, WHETHER DISCOUNTS WERE APPLIED, WHETHER GOALS
01:52:39 WERE SET FOR PARTICIPATION BY UNDERUTILIZED MINORITIES,
01:52:47 AND $538 TO 4.1 MILLION.
01:52:52 SO WHAT WE DISCOVERED IN OUR REVIEW WAS -- COMPLIANCE IN
01:53:03 THAT ORDER.
01:53:04 [AUDIO FEEDBACK]
01:53:06 24 INSTANCES WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE.
01:53:08 THAT'S 96% OF THE TIME WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE.
01:53:11 THERE WERE FIVE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT, AND THOSE ARE
01:53:15 LISTED OUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
01:53:24 NEXT SLIDE.
01:53:26 THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE HAVE REFERENCED THERE.
01:53:35 AS IT RELATES TO THIS RESOLUTION, EBO WAS NOT
01:53:38 COMMUNICATED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY OR DEPARTMENT WHEN
01:53:43 THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT IN WRITING TO RESOLVE ISSUES.
01:53:47 SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
01:53:50 CODE, THEY NEED TO -- COPIES OF CORRESPONDENCE OF
01:54:00 DISAGREEMENT.
01:54:01 AND THE SHELTERED PROCUREMENT, THIS INVOLVES THE EBO
01:54:05 RECEIVING DOCUMENTATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY
01:54:09 INTERACT WITH THE [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~], ACRONYM, SO THE
01:54:18 DOCUMENTATION -- EBO, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS EVIDENCE
01:54:26 OF COMMUNICATION NEEDS TO BE TO EBO, OR MAKE AN EFFORT TO
01:54:36 SECURE THAT COMMUNICATION.
01:54:39 RELATING TO THE SUBMITTAL BY NOVEMBER 15th, I THINK,
01:54:45 WAS THE DAY, AND NOT COMPLYING WITH THAT.
01:54:51 THEY ARE DOING THAT AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.
01:54:53 SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, TO REVIEW, AND IF RELEVANT MAKE
01:55:06 THAT, IF NOT MAKE SOME MODIFICATION, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT
01:55:10 BEING SUBMITTED ON THAT NOVEMBER DEADLINE DATE.
01:55:16 ON THE BID TABULATION, THE FOURTH AREA WHERE THERE COULD
01:55:19 BE SOME IMPROVEMENT, THIS ENSURES CONSISTENT OF THE
01:55:29 DISCOUNT, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT TO MAKE SURE THEY
01:55:40 ESTABLISH THE STANDARD FORM.
01:55:43 THE LAST AREA OF CONFORMANCE OR NONCOMPLIANCE WITH
01:55:50 SHELTERED CONTRACT, AND THIS IS ENSURING THE REVIEW
01:55:55 COMMITTEE IS AWARE OF PROCUREMENTS TO THE MANAGEMENT.
01:56:02 SO 5,000, THOSE THAT MEET THE SHELTERED CONTRACT ISSUE.
01:56:13 SUBMIT THAT TO THE REVIEW COMMITTEE.
01:56:15 AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST QUESTIONS.
01:56:17 SO WE FOUND 96% COMPLIANCE AND 5 AREAS OF OPPORTUNITIES
01:56:24 OF IMPROVEMENT, AND I'M SORRY, CHIEF OF STAFF, I THINK HE
01:56:28 WANTED TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING BEFORE I GOT INTO THAT.
01:56:30 BUT I GOT RIGHT INTO IT BEFORE WE GOT THERE.
01:56:33 CHIEF OF STAFF, ARE YOU THERE?
01:56:35 >>JOHN BENNETT: I AM, CHRISTINE.
01:56:38 THANK YOU.
01:56:39 NO, I THINK YOU HAVE COVERED EVERYTHING WELL.
01:56:41 I WAS JUST GOING TO AUGMENT YOUR INITIAL PRESENTATION
01:56:44 WITH SOME OF THE WAYS THAT MY OFFICE OPERATES TO SUPPORT
01:56:48 YOU.
01:56:49 BUT I THINK IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR THE SAKE OF TIME,
01:56:52 WE CAN CONTINUE.
01:56:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:56:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:57:01 CHRISTINE, COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE?
01:57:08 THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE DASH 16, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
01:57:14 YOU MENTIONED ABOUT A NOVEMBER DATE OR SOMETHING LIKE
01:57:19 THAT.
01:57:20 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS SUBMITTED TO SLBE REVIEW COMMITTEE,
01:57:26 IS THAT THE POINT?
01:57:27 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: THAT ISSUE BE SUBMITTED BY A
01:57:35 NOVEMBER 15th DATE, BUT AFTER BEING SUBMITTED, I HAVE
01:57:41 THE AUDIT HERE THAT ACTUALLY GOES A LITTLE MORE IN-DEPTH
01:57:48 THAN I WILL GIVE IN THE ANSWER, BUT AFTER THAT
01:57:54 ESTABLISHED DEADLINE IN THE ORDINANCE, AND WE COULDN'T
01:57:57 DETERMINE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT SPECIFIC NOVEMBER
01:58:01 15th DATE IN THE ORDINANCE.
01:58:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MAYBE A QUESTION OF YOU GUYS, OR
01:58:08 MAYBE A QUESTION OF MR. BRAD BAIRD AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP,
01:58:16 BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
01:58:21 SHOULD GO TO THE WMBE TEAM LONGER IN ADVANCE SO THEY CAN
01:58:29 START MASSAGING IT AND BE PROACTIVE AT IT IN THE
01:58:38 COMMUNITY TO TRY AND ENCOURAGE MINORITY VENDORS TO BE
01:58:41 INVOLVED.
01:58:43 ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS REQUIREMENT THAT YOU REVIEWED IS
01:58:50 AFTER THE COMPACT IS OVER OR WHAT?
01:58:52 WHAT AM I CONFUSED ABOUT?
01:58:54 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: OKAY, I HAVE VIVIAN WALKER HERE.
01:58:57 SHE'S ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THAT.
01:58:58 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IT IS ACTUALLY IN THE PLANNING
01:59:04 STAGES OF THE CONTRACT.
01:59:06 SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, WHEN A DEPARTMENT IDENTIFIES THAT
01:59:12 THERE IS A PROCESS, IT GOES THROUGH THE EBO PROCESS, AND
01:59:19 THE CONCERN IS THAT CODE SAYS THAT NOVEMBER 15th.
01:59:27 AND SO THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW BY NOVEMBER 15th.
01:59:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISED SO
01:59:39 IT'S MORE OF -- INSTEAD OF AN ANNUAL THING, MAYBE IT
01:59:44 SHOULD BE TO SAY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OR
01:59:47 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
01:59:52 THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO DEAL WITH IT.
01:59:55 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: YES, SIR.
01:59:56 AND THAT'S WHY OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THEY SHOULD REVIEW
01:59:58 THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT DATE AND MAYBE THAT DATE IS NOT
02:00:01 RELEVANT.
02:00:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT?
02:00:05 >>JOHN BENNETT: NO DIRECT COMMENT, COUNCILMAN
02:00:10 DINGFELDER.
02:00:11 JUST TAKING IT UNDER ADVISEMENT FROM WHAT CHRISTINE
02:00:14 DISCOVERED WITH HER TEAM, AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH OCEA
02:00:18 AND MR. HEART'S TEAM.
02:00:19 I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN
02:00:21 INSTITUTED BASED ON THE APPROVAL OF PIPES, TO SEE HOW ALL
02:00:26 THESE THINGS COME TOGETHER.
02:00:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO COMPLIMENT COUNCILMAN
02:00:29 GUDES.
02:00:30 THANKS FOR PUSHING FOR THIS ADDITIONAL -- IT OBVIOUSLY
02:00:36 IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
02:00:38 THANK YOU.
02:00:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
02:00:43 WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO PRIVATE SIGNIFICANT
02:00:48 AMOUNT DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT OUT WELL
02:00:51 BEFORE, AND I THINK THAT'S SOME OF THE PROBLEM THAT
02:00:55 HAPPENED.
02:00:56 SO MAYBE THE POLICY THAT WE KNOW TO GET THINGS MOVING
02:00:59 BEFOREHAND BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING AND WE HAVE ALL THIS
02:01:02 STUFF WE HAVE NOW, AND NOT GETTING OPPORTUNITIES.
02:01:05 WHAT I DID SEE IS THAT MY CONCERN, SOMEONE CONTACTED ME
02:01:12 ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMITTEES IN THE EBO, SAYING THEY
02:01:15 DON'T MEET, TO SEE THAT THE COMMITTEES ARE NOT DOING ANY
02:01:21 REAL WORK OR HAVE ANY REAL POWER TO DO ANY WORK.
02:01:24 I THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THAT IN THERE.
02:01:26 I DIDN'T BUT THAT'S WHAT I AM HEARING A LOT, THAT THE EBO
02:01:31 COMMITTEE, I NEVER SUBMITTED A NAME FOR ANYBODY TO BE OH
02:01:33 THAN THAT COMMITTEE.
02:01:33 I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE TERMS ARE, WHEN WE VOTE TO PUT
02:01:38 SOMEBODY ON THOSE BOARDS.
02:01:40 I AM HEARING THAT YOU HAVE GOT THE SAME PEOPLE ON THE
02:01:42 BOARD, AND AGAIN, HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR A LONG, LONG
02:01:49 TIME.
02:01:52 I DON'T MEAN TO BE GETTING ON THIS PROCESS BUT I WAS
02:01:55 HOPING TO SEE WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY WE HAVE WITH THAT
02:01:58 BOARD, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE ON PUTTING PEOPLE ON
02:02:01 BOARDS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP AND DO THE WORK OF
02:02:03 PEOPLE ON BOARDS TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THE SUBSEQUENT
02:02:06 MATTER.
02:02:06 SO AGAIN, I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE CAN GET OCEA
02:02:13 LATER OR MR. HART.
02:02:16 I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL.
02:02:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:02:20 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
02:02:24 GO AHEAD.
02:02:27 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: JUST IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN
02:02:33 GUDES, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
02:02:35 WE DO A NON-AUDIT SERVICE.
02:02:37 THIS WAS REQUESTED BY CHIEF OF STAFF, AND HE ASKED US
02:02:40 ABOUT THE AREAS OF COMPLAINS FOR CHAPTER 26.
02:02:48 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF
02:02:50 THE NON-AUDIT SERVICE IS A NARROW LIMITED SCOPE, AND I
02:02:55 WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO AN AGREEMENT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE
02:02:58 THE AREAS OF CONCERN WE HAVE ARE COVERED IN THE SCOPE OF
02:03:02 WHAT WE DO.
02:03:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT WE ARE SAYING, I GUESS WE CAN'T DO
02:03:07 AN AUDIT UNTIL THIS IS IN PLACE.
02:03:09 AND ONCE THAT IS IN PLACE, WE CAN DO THE FULL AUDIT OF
02:03:12 SOME OF THE AREAS WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
02:03:14 CORRECT?
02:03:15 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE AREA
02:03:19 OF CONCERN IS SO WE MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THAT IN THE
02:03:22 SCOPE.
02:03:22 THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN -- WE
02:03:27 JUST LOOK AT AREAS OF COMPLIANCE, THE COMPLIANCE IN THE
02:03:33 CODE,.
02:03:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:03:38 THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR A COMPLETE -- WE'LL GET TO
02:03:43 THAT BRIDGE ONCE WE IMPLEMENT THE NEW ORDINANCE, ONCE WE
02:03:45 GET THERE, AND THEN WE CAN ASK WHAT WE REALLY NEED, WHAT
02:03:48 WE REALLY WANT, TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL BASES.
02:03:51 BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MS. GLOVER.
02:03:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOUR MICROPHONE, MR. CARLSON.
02:04:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES IS ASKING
02:04:04 FOR IS A SIMILAR CONVERSATION THAT I HAVE HAD, WHICH IS
02:04:07 WE ARE ASKING FOR OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS OR EXPERT ANALYSIS,
02:04:11 WHICH MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS AN AUDIT, ACTUALLY, AND I
02:04:15 FORGOT WE WERE BOTH ON THAT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION BUT
02:04:18 I THINK DOES IT SAY AUDIT POWER OR INVESTIGATIVE POWER?
02:04:22 ANDREA IS HERE, TOO.
02:04:24 BUT I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A SEPARATE DISCUSSION FOR
02:04:29 ANOTHER TIME.
02:04:29 WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT UNDER THE WORD THAT THE CHARTER
02:04:34 USES, WHAT OTHER TOOLS MIGHT WE HAVE TO GET AN OBJECTIVE
02:04:38 VIEW OF SOMETHING OR EXPERT VIEW OF SOMETHING SO THAT WE
02:04:40 COULD GET OTHER ANSWERS?
02:04:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT DOES LEAD TO INVESTIGATIONS, COUNCIL
02:04:48 ASKED FOR INVESTIGATIONS, TO MY RECOLLECTION.
02:04:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I SEE YOUR
02:04:52 HAND.
02:04:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:04:59 ONE LAST QUESTION, WE WERE SPEAKING EARLIER, JOHN
02:05:05 BENNETT, AND I WANTED TO KNOW, IN REGARDS TO THIS 40-DAY
02:05:11 REVIEW PERIOD THAT BECAME NEW POLICY UNDER THIS
02:05:16 ADMINISTRATION, WHILE I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MAYOR
02:05:21 CASTOR IS OBVIOUSLY VERY DILIGENT IN MEETING THAT WITHIN
02:05:25 TEN DAYS, BUT FOR LONG-TERM PURPOSES, DO YOU THINK THE
02:05:32 MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE AMENABLE TO SHORTENING
02:05:35 THAT FROM 40 DAYS, MAYBE IN HALF, SOMETHING ALONG THE
02:05:38 LINES OF 20 CALENDAR DAYS?
02:05:45 >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF OF STAFF.
02:05:47 YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, AS CHRISTINE DISCUSSED
02:05:51 EARLIER, TIMELINESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS CRITICAL.
02:05:55 JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT I DO,
02:05:58 WHEN THOSE HIT MY DESK, I READ THEM THOROUGHLY, I LOOK
02:06:01 FOR WHAT I CALL THE PORTFOLIO ANALYSIS OF CHRISTINE TALKS
02:06:04 ABOUT HER NARROW SCOPE, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S TEN THAT
02:06:10 LEAD TO OTHER THINGS THAT SUPPORT THE CONTRACTS OF THE
02:06:14 AUDIT.
02:06:14 SO I LOOK TO BROADEN MY SIDE OF THE EQUATION WHILE IT'S
02:06:18 GOING THROUGH ITS NARROW SCOPE OF APPROVAL SO I TURN OVER
02:06:21 THE REPORT OF COURSE AND THE MAYOR SEES IT.
02:06:23 AS CHRISTINE MENTIONED, I THINK THE TWO FISCAL YEARS WERE
02:06:28 OUT TEN DAYS SO I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE TO HAVE
02:06:32 EITHER 15 WORKING DAYS, OR THE BALANCE OF THE THREE WEEKS
02:06:37 WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 50% OF WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE WE ARE
02:06:40 MEETING THAT TIMELINE ALREADY.
02:06:42 AND AGAIN OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT,
02:06:45 AND HAVE A SENSE OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT IN THE
02:06:49 ORGANIZATION.
02:06:50 SO UNLESS CHRISTINE OBJECTS, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THAT
02:06:55 MUCH OF A CHALLENGE.
02:06:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED.
02:07:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAID WE APPRECIATE THAT.
02:07:11 WHEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE, JUST SEND US AN E-MAIL AND LET US
02:07:15 KNOW, OKAY?
02:07:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:07:23 ANYTHING ELSE?
02:07:23 >>JOHN BENNETT: THIS IS JOHN BENNETT AGAIN.
02:07:27 CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT?
02:07:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OF COURSE.
02:07:30 GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:07:31 >>JOHN BENNETT: I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IN AN UBER
02:07:34 TECHNICAL WAY THAT IN AN ATTEMPT TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN
02:07:37 GUDES AND OF COURSE ALL OF COUNCIL, BY ASKING CHRISTINE
02:07:42 TO COMMIT TO A NONAUDIT SERVICE BETWEEN THE MOTION AND
02:07:46 TODAY'S WORKSHOP, TRYING TO GET A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING
02:07:49 OF ORDINANCE COMPLIANCE, AND AGAIN, I KNOW CHRISTINE
02:07:52 MENTIONED IT, AND WE AGREE THAT SHE HAD TO CREATE A SCOPE
02:07:55 OF WORK THAT WOULD GET US TO TODAY.
02:07:57 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE TWO POINTS.
02:07:59 ONE, SECTION 26.5.28 DOES TALK ABOUT THE EQUAL BUSINESS
02:08:04 OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH IS EMBEDDED IN THE
02:08:07 ORDINANCE.
02:08:08 NOW WHETHER THE RANDOMIZER THAT CHRISTINE USED OF 129
02:08:14 TOUCH POINTS, THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED IN A DEEPER WAY.
02:08:17 BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, AND I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
02:08:21 TRIED TO SHOW THIS COLLABORATIVE AND COLLEGIAL EFFORT FOR
02:08:24 THE TIME WE HAVE BEEN IN PLACE, IS THAT ANYTIME COUNCIL
02:08:27 HAS AN REQUEST TO REVIEW SOMETHING IN A SMALLER SCALE,
02:08:32 LIKE JUST THE RATE OF ATTENDANCE OR THE RATE OF
02:08:36 INTERACTION BETWEEN ONE OF OUR ADVISORY GROUPS AND THE
02:08:39 SYSTEM TO SEE IF IT'S MOVING, OF COURSE COVID HAS THROWN
02:08:43 A LOT OF THINGS ON ITS HEAD, BUT ANYTIME COUNCIL HAS A
02:08:47 REQUEST TO DO SOMETHING, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM RUNNING BACK,
02:08:49 DOING AN ANALYSIS, WRITING A MEMO AND SENDING THAT
02:08:54 THROUGH, IN LIEU OF MAYBE ADDING A NON-OUT-OF-SERVICE OR
02:08:59 WORK TO CHRISTINE'S SHOP BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WORK HARD
02:09:02 AND THEY HAVE A GOOD BUSINESS PLAN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
02:09:04 AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO SUPPRESS ANYTHING.
02:09:06 JUST TRYING TO BE ACCOMMODATING.
02:09:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:09:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:09:11 ANYBODY ELSE?
02:09:12 ANYTHING ELSE?
02:09:15 DOES THAT COMPLETE YOUR PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM,
02:09:18 NUMBER 6?
02:09:20 MS. GLOVER?
02:09:21 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: YES, IT DOES.
02:09:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE CAN GO TO ITEM 5?
02:09:26 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: YES, SIR.
02:09:27 THANK YOU.
02:09:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THAT WILL COMPLETE THE AGENDA.
02:09:31 AFTER THAT.
02:09:33 ITEM NUMBER 5.
02:09:35 WE HAVE A POWER POINT, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM
02:09:39 FOR TODAY'S WORKSHOP.
02:09:40 THERE IT IS.
02:09:41 GO AHEAD.
02:09:41 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
02:09:48 WE ARE A LITTLE DELAYED ON OUR SIDE.
02:09:51 WE ARE JUST PAUSING TO MAKE SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL AND
02:09:53 THE COMMUNITY GETS TO SEE THE GRAPHIC AT THE SAME TIME WE
02:09:55 ARE SPEAKING TO IT.
02:09:58 SO I APOLOGIZE.
02:09:58 I HAVEN'T SEEN IT COME UP YET.
02:10:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S UP ON OUR SCREEN THAT SHOWS THE
02:10:04 WELCOME SLIDE.
02:10:05 >>JOHN BENNETT: OKAY.
02:10:06 THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE SO WE CAN
02:10:08 START TALKING ABOUT THAT.
02:10:09 IT SHOULD BE CALLED EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY THOUGHT
02:10:16 FRAMEWORK.
02:10:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, WE SEE IT.
02:10:18 >>JOHN BENNETT: AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:10:21 WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE DO VERY IMPORTANT
02:10:22 WORK TODAY.
02:10:24 WITH NOT ONLY COUNCIL BUT WITH OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS IN
02:10:28 THE COMMUNITY.
02:10:30 I WAS VERY HUMBLED BY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS EARLIER AND
02:10:34 GRATEFUL FOR TALKING TO THOSE FOLKS, NOT ONLY OFFLINE
02:10:38 THROUGHOUT THE TIME I HAVE BEEN BACK, BUT SPECIFICALLY
02:10:45 THAT GROUP, I HAVE DONE WEBINARS WITH THEM AND TALKED IN
02:10:48 A VISIONARY WAY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A CONTINUOUS
02:10:51 IMPROVEMENT IN OUR EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.
02:10:54 THAT SAID, I DRAFTED THIS FRAMEWORK.
02:10:57 THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY MINE.
02:11:00 WE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED BY GNTB AS CONSULTANTS AND PART OF
02:11:04 THAT WAS PARTNERSHIP TO WORK WITH BOTH OCEA WYNN'S OFFICE
02:11:08 AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS WHICH OVERSEES OUR
02:11:11 EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM, AND IN ADDITION
02:11:13 SUPPORTED BY MS. JEAN DUNCAN AND HER TEAM AS ONE OF THE
02:11:18 LARGEST CUSTOMERS OF THAT OFFICE.
02:11:20 SO WE WERE REALLY GRATEFUL THAT THEY COULD HELP WITH THIS
02:11:24 EFFORT TO GET TO THIS MOTION AND THIS WORKSHOP OVER THE
02:11:27 HOLIDAYS.
02:11:28 AND HOWEVER, THIS SLIDE I DRAFTED, BECAUSE I JUST WANTED
02:11:31 TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL THAT THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF MY VIEW
02:11:36 FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE, SPECIFICALLY FOR ABOUT
02:11:40 THE YEAR THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN IN THE
02:11:45 ORGANIZATIONAL CHART WHICH UNFORTUNATELY WITHIN 30 DAYS
02:11:47 OF THAT ORGANIZATION STARTED OUR COVID WORK.
02:11:50 BUT REGARDLESS, WHAT I HAVE NOTICED FROM A LEGAL ASPECT,
02:11:54 WHICH IS TO ME THE BALANCING OBJECTIVE OF TRYING TO
02:11:57 UNDERSTAND YOUR ORDINANCES AS IT RELATES TO NOT ONLY OUR
02:12:02 VISION, OR OUR OPPORTUNITY, ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU SEE
02:12:06 THAT TRYING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE ORDINANCE IS ONE OF
02:12:09 THE BALANCING ACTS, AND THEN CREATING AS MUCH OPPORTUNITY
02:12:13 IN OUR MINORITY BUSINESS AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS, AND OF
02:12:17 COURSE OUR WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES AS WELL, IS WHERE WE
02:12:21 FIND THE MOST CHALLENGE.
02:12:22 AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WILL
02:12:26 DEMAND TO HAVE THE BEST COST, THE HIGHEST QUALITY, AND
02:12:30 THE BEST TIMING FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS RELATES TO
02:12:36 CONSTRUCTION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:12:37 ON THE LEFT SIDE, AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS ADMINISTRATION
02:12:39 VERY WELL SUPPORTED BY COUNCIL, HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ON
02:12:44 THE BRIDGES TO BUSINESS EFFORTS TO TRY TO IMPROVE
02:12:47 SERVICES, TO FEED THAT FUNNEL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
02:12:50 THE MOST OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION
02:12:54 IN ALL OF THE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY AS YOU APPROVE THE
02:12:58 PIPES PROJECT AS WELL.
02:12:59 BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ELIMINATE
02:13:03 BARRIERS.
02:13:04 AND I THINK WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR TODAY, IN FACT I
02:13:06 KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR TODAY FROM MS. OCEA WYNN,
02:13:10 AND THAT'S WHY WE REDUCED THE POWERPOINT FROM WHAT YOU
02:13:13 SAW COME THROUGH AS BACKGROUND MATERIAL FROM THE GOOD
02:13:15 WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR INTERNAL TEAM AND OUR
02:13:19 CONSULTANTS, BY 96%, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
02:13:23 WHEN WE DISCUSS EVERYTHING, THAT WE GIVE COUNCIL DUE
02:13:27 AMOUNT OF TIME TO GIVE US FEEDBACK.
02:13:29 AND SO BEFORE I CONTINUE ON THIS, CHAIRMAN, IS ARE THERE
02:13:34 ANY INITIAL COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO
02:13:37 THE TEAM BEFORE WE GET GOING SO WE CAN MAYBE SHAKE OUR
02:13:41 FEEDBACK TO DIFFERENT COUNCIL THOUGHTS?
02:13:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ON COUNCIL?
02:13:44 COUNCILMAN GUDES?
02:13:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, AFTER LOOKING AT THE 64-PAGE
02:13:50 PRESENTATION, I DID MAKE A COUPLE OF CALLS.
02:13:54 SOME THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH THE FIRM I DIDN'T
02:14:01 SEE IN THE PRESENTATION.
02:14:02 SOME THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD TALKED ABOUT, AND
02:14:06 TODAY SOMEONE CAME HERE TO TALK TODAY, I DID NOT SEE IN
02:14:09 THE PRESENTATION.
02:14:11 MY THING IS, WE HIRED A CONSULTANT, AND I'M SURE A GREAT
02:14:17 FIRM, BUT IT'S LIKE A COACH, WHICH I HAVE BEEN A LONG
02:14:21 TIME, AND I HAVE TRIED TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.
02:14:24 AND YOU KNOW COACHES WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE AT
02:14:28 OFFENSE OR DEFENSE, AND SPECIAL TEAMS, BUT SOMETIMES YOU
02:14:31 HAVE EXPERTS TO WORK ON THE COACH, AND I HAVE GOT TO GO
02:14:35 FIND THE EXPERTS, BECAUSE EXPERIENCE, AND BEING AN
02:14:40 EXPERT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, AND SOMETIMES THEY COAGULATE
02:14:42 TOGETHER.
02:14:43 BUT I WAS LOOKING AT MORE EXPERTISE IN THE FRAMEWORK OF
02:14:45 THE PRESENTATION OF THESE ARE MISTAKES WE ARE MAKING OR
02:14:50 THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
02:14:52 THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO FIX THOSE NOW, AND HOW WE
02:14:56 IMPLEMENT THEM FOR THE SOLUTION PORTION, AND NOW WE ROLL
02:15:00 SOMETHING OUT.
02:15:01 BUT FOR ME WAY SEE IS A LOT OF MORE COMMUNITY TALK, A LOT
02:15:05 OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
02:15:07 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG
02:15:10 TIME SAYING THE SAME THING.
02:15:11 BUT WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE THAT -- PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE
02:15:16 PODIUM THIS MORNING AND ACTUALLY INDICATE CERTAIN KEY
02:15:18 POINTS THAT COUNCIL HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR AND ASKING FOR,
02:15:21 THEY CAN TELL ME SPECIFIC POINTS TO GET US WHERE WE NEED
02:15:24 TO GO, BUT YET I DIDN'T SEE IT AT ALL IN MY PRESENTATION
02:15:28 THAT'S GOING TO BE SUBMITTED TODAY.
02:15:29 MAYBE IT HAS CHANGED SINCE I MADE THOSE PHONE CALLS
02:15:32 YESTERDAY.
02:15:32 I'LL WAIT AND SEE, REFERENCE TO WHAT THE PRESENTATION WE
02:15:36 PRESENTED FORTHCOMING.
02:15:37 BUT I DO -- AFTER I DO FINISH SEEING WHAT IS HAPPENING
02:15:42 WITH THE PRESENTATION, IT IS SOMETHING I DON'T SEE IN
02:15:45 THERE, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK FOR SOME THINGS
02:15:48 TO BE DONE.
02:15:48 BUT I THINK THAT I AM GOING TO YIELD BACK, SEE WHAT WE
02:15:52 HAVE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.
02:15:54 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:15:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:15:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:16:03 MR. BENNETT, TWO THINGS.
02:16:07 I FEEL VERY LUCKY, I ACTUALLY GOT 66 PAGES, NOT 64 PAGES.
02:16:15 BUT ANYWAY, ON PAGE 51 AND 52, IT INDICATES THAT WE ARE
02:16:24 DOING BETTER IN '19 THAN WE DID IN 2018.
02:16:29 I THINK THE BLACK BUSINESS, TRANSPORTATION 2 MILLION TO 4
02:16:37 MILLION WHICH IS GOOD, BUT WHAT IT DOESN'T SAY IS 2
02:16:40 MILLION OR 4 MILLION OUT OF A TOTAL OF BLANK.
02:16:43 SO, IN OTHER WORDS, OUT OF A TOTAL OF 100 MILLION
02:16:49 POSSIBLE?
02:16:49 OR 50 MILLION?
02:16:51 OR 200 MILLION?
02:16:53 OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS.
02:16:54 SO WE NEED THE DENOMINATOR IN ORDER TO BE REALLY
02:16:58 IMPRESSED, YOU KNOW, BY THE IMPROVEMENTS.
02:17:04 SO THAT'S SOMETHING I ASK THE QUESTION ON OR HEAR THE
02:17:09 ANSWER TO DURING THE PRESENTATION.
02:17:11 AND THE OTHER PART, MR. BENNETT, SIMILARLY, IS PAGE 53, I
02:17:21 LIKE 60 OR 61, WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THAT ARE GOING
02:17:29 TO BE PROJECTED OR MADE OVER THE NEXT X NUMBER OF YEARS.
02:17:32 AND I BUT THE GOAL ON PAGE 53 ONLY SPEAKS TO A GOAL OF
02:17:41 40%.
02:17:43 AND AS SOME OTHER FOLKS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE HEARING
02:17:46 THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, BLACK COMMUNITY REPRESENTS 25,
02:17:50 26% OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IN POPULATION.
02:17:53 WE TALK ABOUT THIS ON MANY OCCASIONS, THE HISPANIC
02:17:57 COMMUNITY, I'M SURE, REPRESENTS ALMOST THE SAME
02:17:59 PERCENTAGE.
02:18:01 AND YET THE GOAL SETTING FOR BOTH HISPANIC BUSINESSES AND
02:18:06 NONBUSINESSES, 4%. IF THAT'S OUR GOAL, THEN WE CAN KIND
02:18:12 OF PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK AND SAY, YAY, WE MADE IT,
02:18:16 LET'S GO HOME.
02:18:17 OBVIOUSLY, OUR GOAL NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE
02:18:20 EVERY YEAR UNTIL WE GET TO 20% OR MORE.
02:18:25 SO I MIGHT HEAR A LITTLE LATER ON THAT DURING OUR
02:18:30 PRESENTATION.
02:18:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:18:32 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
02:18:33 HEARING NONE, MR. BENNETT, ARE YOU GOING TO GO THROUGH
02:18:36 ALL 66 SLIDES?
02:18:37 >>JOHN BENNETT: I AM NOT, AS THE TEAM JUST CHUCKLED IN
02:18:43 THE BACKGROUND.
02:18:44 NO, WE REDUCED THIS JUST FOR THIS REASON TO MAKE SURE
02:18:47 THAT WE HAD DIALOGUE.
02:18:49 THE SLIDE BACKGROUND WAS TO SHOW YOU THE WORK THAT WENT
02:18:52 ON BETWEEN THE MOTION AND TODAY'S WORKSHOP, AND ALLOW
02:18:56 COUNCIL TO GO THROUGH THAT AND DO EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN
02:18:59 DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN GUDES DID, OR TO REACH OUT
02:19:02 AFTER THEY DIGEST ANY MORE OF THAT MATERIAL, BUT
02:19:06 SPECIFICALLY WE WANTED TO GET RIGHT TO WHAT COUNCILMAN
02:19:08 GUDES IS ASKING FOR, AND ALSO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
02:19:13 ABOUT -- AND AGAIN I GO BACK TO THAT INITIAL GRAPHIC, IS
02:19:18 THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLEXITIES OF THIS OF THAT WE NEED
02:19:21 TO WORK THROUGH TO CREATE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO
02:19:23 FEEDBACK FUNNEL TO INCREASE THOSE GOALS AND INCREASE
02:19:26 THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, AND DISCUSS THAT THROUGH THE LEGAL
02:19:30 FILTERS OF ASPIRATIONAL AND STRATEGIC GOAL SETTING.
02:19:34 SO WITH THAT, I AM ACTUALLY NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
02:19:37 MS. OCEA WYNN WHO IS GOING TO TAKE US TO THE FUTURE.
02:19:40 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, THIS IS OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR
02:19:45 COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
02:19:47 AND IF YOU CAN ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, I WOULD
02:19:51 APPRECIATE IT.
02:19:57 SO AS CHIEF BENNETT SAID, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
02:20:01 DELAY, BUT I WILL GO ON.
02:20:05 AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAD LISTENING SESSIONS, COUNCIL,
02:20:09 WITH YOU, WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS, WITH ORGANIZATIONS, WHO
02:20:16 YOU RECOMMENDED, THAT WE TALK TO AS PART OF THIS
02:20:23 WORKSHOP, THE PREPARATION PHASE.
02:20:26 AND HOW WE ARE PRESENTING BEFORE YOU ARE RECOMMENDATIONS
02:20:30 THAT ARE BROKEN INTO TWO PARTS.
02:20:34 ONE WILL BE THE IMMEDIATE ACTIONABLE OPPORTUNITIES, THOSE
02:20:39 STEPS WE CAN TAKE NOW.
02:20:41 AND THEN THE SECOND WILL BE THOSE STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE
02:20:43 IN THE FUTURE, THE SHORT NEAR-TERM FUTURE.
02:20:48 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING AS PART OF THE
02:20:51 DISCUSSION AND THE LISTENING SESSIONS, THERE WERE SOME
02:20:55 KEY TAKEAWAYS SOME KEY THINGS THAT WE HEARD, NOT ONLY
02:20:59 THEN BUT FROM NEW COUNCIL FROM DAY ONE WHEN THE CONTRACT
02:21:06 WAS NOT MEETING THE LEVEL OF EXPECTATIONS THAT YOU WERE
02:21:09 EXPECTING.
02:21:10 AND THOSE KEY TAKEAWAYS WERE HOW DO WE INCREASE OUR SPAN
02:21:16 WITH NOT ONLY BUSINESSES BUT PARTICULARLY BLACK
02:21:19 BUSINESSES?
02:21:21 HOW DOO DO WE INCREASE PARTICIPATION?
02:21:23 HOW DO WE INCREASE OUR AVAILABILITY?
02:21:29 WHAT NETWORK FOR FORMING A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN EMBARK
02:21:34 UPON THAT WILL IMPROVE OUR OVERALL EBO GOALS?
02:21:41 AND AS WE GO OVER THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES IS THAT WE HAVE
02:21:47 PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT.
02:21:50 I WILL START WITH THE FIRST IMMEDIATE ACTIONABLE
02:21:53 OPPORTUNITY.
02:21:53 AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTROL NOW WITHIN
02:21:58 THE ADMINISTRATION OR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NEW COUNCIL.
02:22:03 AND I WANT TO STATE THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO GET TO THE
02:22:05 NEXT STEP AND MOVE THE NEEDLE, IT WILL REQUIRE A
02:22:10 PARTNERSHIP.
02:22:11 SO INTERNALLY, WITH CITY COUNCIL, AND EXTERNALLY WITH
02:22:16 OUR -- IN CHAMBERS AND ORGANIZATION.
02:22:22 SO LET'S START BY -- BEFORE I START, LET ME JUST SAY, IF,
02:22:27 AS WE GO THROUGH THE DIALOGUE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,
02:22:32 WE HAVE THE WHOLE TEAM HERE WITH EXPERTISE FROM
02:22:36 PURCHASING TO EBO TO LEGAL, WHO CAN ENGAGE IN THE
02:22:43 CONVERSATIONS AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
02:22:45 SO THE FIRST THING TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION FOR US IS TO
02:22:50 INCREASE THE SHELTERED MARKET PROGRAM FROM 300,000 TO
02:22:55 400,000 AND MAYBE EVEN 500,000.
02:23:00 WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF DIALOGUE.
02:23:02 AND THIS RELATES [AUDIO DISTORTION] -- CONTRACT.
02:23:07 INCREASE THE 1993 PURCHASING THRESHOLDS BIDS FROM 25,000
02:23:12 TO 100,000.
02:23:16 WE CAN INCREASE OUR THRESHOLD BID FOR RFPs THAT REQUIRE
02:23:23 APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL FROM 100,000 TO 150,000.
02:23:32 WE CAN INCREASE THE BONDING AND FINANCE PROGRAM.
02:23:36 I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL WHEN COUNCILMAN
02:23:39 DINGFELDER TAKING THE LEAD.
02:23:40 BUT WE PARTNER WITH YOU TO FARM OUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK
02:23:46 LIKE?
02:23:47 IS IT VALUABLE?
02:23:48 AND HOW DO WE DO IT?
02:23:50 WE CAN ESTABLISH WMBE/SLBE GOALS ON THE FRONT END OF THE
02:23:58 CONTRACT WHERE PRACTICAL.
02:24:02 AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT AGGRESSIVELY BUILDING OUR
02:24:09 ECOSYSTEM TO BY THE RECRUITMENT, CERTIFICATION, AND
02:24:17 SUPPORT FOR BUSINESSES BY ENGAGING UPON MENTOR PROPERTY
02:24:21 OOH -- PROTEGE PROGRAMS.
02:24:25 IF YOU ALLOW US TO PARTNER WITH THOSE LEADERS IN THE
02:24:28 COMMUNITY, HAVE THOSE BUSINESSES TO WORK WITH THEM TO
02:24:34 BRING THEM UP TO A LEVEL TO WHERE THEY ARE ABLE TO
02:24:38 ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE ON THE CONTRACT, AND NOT ONLY BID
02:24:44 BUT TO WIN THE BID.
02:24:46 LIKEWISE, WE CAN AGGRESSIVELY ENHANCE THE INDUSTRY
02:24:50 STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THROUGH CONTRACTING --
02:24:55 SUBCONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES.
02:24:57 WE'LL LOOK AT THIS BYING THOSE BUSINESSES.
02:25:01 WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT IN THESE CONTRACTS SO WE
02:25:06 CAN TARGET THOSE BUSINESSES WHERE WE CAN PARTNER THE
02:25:10 SMALLER BUSINESSES WITH THE LARGER ONES IN THE INDUSTRY
02:25:14 SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN THOSE KEY ELEMENTS AGAIN TO BID
02:25:20 AND TO WIN CONTRACTS.
02:25:22 ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD THE BUSINESS ECOSYSTEM.
02:25:30 I HAVE TO REFER TO WHAT MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD ALWAYS SAY,
02:25:33 YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD FROM A TURNIP.
02:25:35 SO WE CAN GET THE BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE IF WE ARE NOT
02:25:42 THERE.
02:25:42 OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE THAT ECOSYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE
02:25:49 A LARGER AMOUNT OF PARTICIPATION AND INCREASED LEVEL OF
02:25:56 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE COMPANIES.
02:26:04 WE WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE IN A WORKING GROUP.
02:26:07 WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
02:26:09 AGAIN, WE CANNOT DO IT ALONE.
02:26:11 WE WILL NEED THOSE REPRESENTATIVES FROM TOBA, CHAMBER OF
02:26:16 COMMERCE, AND ANY OTHER WHO YOU CAN RECOMMEND WHO COULD
02:26:22 PARTNER WITH US, THAT CAN SHOW US AND RECOMMEND TO US
02:26:26 THOSE STEPS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO IMPROVE OUR
02:26:35 EBO PARTICIPATION WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:26:37 SO WITH THIS I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
02:26:40 HAVE BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE SECOND PHASE, MY SECOND
02:26:46 SLIDE, WHICH IS THE ACTION PLAN FOR OUR EBO PROGRAM.
02:26:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:26:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MS.
02:26:56 WYNN.
02:26:57 I THINK YOU HEARD A LOT THIS MORNING.
02:27:00 AND WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FOR A LONG TIME.
02:27:02 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RFPs, RFQs, SOMETIMES WE HAVE
02:27:07 THESE BIG WORDS THAT SMALL PEOPLE SOMETIMES DON'T
02:27:10 UNDERSTAND.
02:27:12 THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF EDUCATION SOMETIMES DON'T
02:27:15 UNDERSTAND.
02:27:16 THE VERBIAGE OR WORDING IN SOME OF OUR RFPs.
02:27:20 AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT CULTURE SOMETIMES, AND YOU
02:27:23 HAVE BIG BUSINESS WHO HAVE A LOT OF SPECIALIZED ATTORNEYS
02:27:26 AND CONSULTANTS THAT CAN READ THROUGH THESE CONTRACTS,
02:27:30 THESE RFPs AND RFQs FOR VERBIAGE.
02:27:34 I THINK THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT THAT MUST HAVE WITH THE
02:27:37 PROGRAM.
02:27:38 PEOPLE WAITING AROUND, WHAT THE CERTIFICATION PROGRAM IS,
02:27:41 IT SHOULD BE LAID OUT FOR THE YEAR WHAT THOSE
02:27:44 CERTIFICATIONS THAT PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW IN ADVANCE.
02:27:48 THESE ARE THINGS THAT KIND OF HINDER OUR ROADBLOCKS TO
02:27:51 FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE THE INSIDE SCOOP TO WHAT'S GOING
02:27:54 ON.
02:27:55 EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE THE SCOOP OF WHAT'S GOING ON IT,
02:27:59 OUR CONTRACTS, HOW TO APPLY.
02:28:03 I THINK THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.
02:28:04 A LOT OF FOLKS ARE DOING GOOD IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR,
02:28:07 MINORITIES ARE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO GOVERNMENT, AND
02:28:11 CITY GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS, THEY DON'T KNOW ALL THE
02:28:13 PARAMETERS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TAUGHT THAT OR
02:28:17 HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE TABLE TO LEARN
02:28:19 IT, FOR OPPORTUNITY TO MENTOR THEM ALONG FOR THE
02:28:23 OPPORTUNITY.
02:28:24 AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE
02:28:27 MINORITIES, HISPANICS, AND BLACK FOLKS, SO THEY CAN BE AT
02:28:31 THE TABLE TO UNDERSTAND.
02:28:32 I THINK THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT THAT WE ARE MISSING AS
02:28:34 WELL.
02:28:35 HAVING FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
02:28:38 A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, YOU CAN
02:28:40 GET A HEAD THAN WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE
02:28:44 LANGUAGE IS FRENCH TO YOU, YOU DON'T GET AHEAD, YOU FALL
02:28:47 BACK.
02:28:47 I DON'T SEE ON THE BOARD, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, ON
02:28:52 PAGE -- AS YOU ARE DEALING WITH YOUR CODES AS BLACK
02:28:59 FEMALE CATEGORY.
02:29:00 YOU HEARD THAT THIS MORNING.
02:29:01 I THINK THAT'S A CATEGORY THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTs
02:29:04 BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THE CATEGORIES OF MINORITY FEMALES,
02:29:08 YOU HAVE WHITE FEMALE BUT THERE'S NO CATEGORY FOR BLACK
02:29:10 FEMALE, LUMPED IN WITH BLACK MALES.
02:29:14 HOW DO YOU CAPTURE THAT?
02:29:15 AND WHAT I DON'T SEE SOMETIMES AND WHAT WAS NOT MENTIONED
02:29:18 IN THE AUDIT IS THE DATA.
02:29:19 HOW DO WE CAPTURE ALL THIS DATA FOR THESE DIFFERENT
02:29:22 GROUPS?
02:29:22 HOW DO WE CAPTURE THE DATA OF THE PROGRAMMING?
02:29:25 HOW DO WE CAPTURE THE DATA OF THE DOLLARS BEING SPENT?
02:29:28 I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE AUDIT.
02:29:31 MAYBE THAT WAS CODE THAT WAS GIVEN.
02:29:33 BUT I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND AND THE
02:29:37 DATA.
02:29:38 YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES DATA CAN BE MISCONSTRUED SOMETIMES,
02:29:41 AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN SAY, WELL, THE DATA SHOWS THIS, BUT
02:29:44 IN ACTUALITY, THE ACTUAL PRODUCT DOESN'T SHOW WHAT THE
02:29:47 DATA SHOWS.
02:29:49 THOSE ARE AREAS I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT.
02:29:52 THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT THE EXPERT.
02:29:54 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERIENCE BUT SOMETIMES YOU
02:29:59 HAVE TO HAVE AN EXPERT TO LOOK AT THE WRONGS TO MAKE
02:30:01 THINGS RIGHT.
02:30:02 YOU HAVE SOME GOOD THINGS ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE, BUT I
02:30:05 THINK THERE ARE A FEW THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT TO ENHANCE
02:30:09 IT.
02:30:10 BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING AT THE HOUSE.
02:30:12 YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE -- IF YOU ARE MAKING SURE THE HOUSE
02:30:16 IS DOING RIGHT.
02:30:19 THAT'S WHERE IT GOES WRONG.
02:30:20 SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THINGS I AM LOOKING AT
02:30:25 AND I WILL CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION, AND I
02:30:29 HAVE SOME THINGS I WANT TO SAY AT THE END.
02:30:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
02:30:33 COUNCILMAN VIERA?
02:30:37 OKAY, VERY GOOD.
02:30:38 CONTINUE ON, MA'AM.
02:30:39 >>OCEA WYNN: SO TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND
02:30:46 CONCERNS, IF YOU CAN ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:30:51 WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN A LOT OF WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING
02:30:54 INTO CONSIDERATION, COUNCILMAN GUDES, AND THOSE
02:30:59 CONSIDERATIONS WILL BE PART OF OUR ACTION PLAN WITH THE
02:31:05 OVERALL ACTION FOR US TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL WITHIN
02:31:08 THREE MONTHS OR SO TO PRESENT TO YOU AN ACTION PLAN OF
02:31:14 HOW WE INTEND IN THESE AREAS.
02:31:19 SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
02:31:21 AND HERE YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR 67-PAGE REPORT
02:31:25 RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE PULLED OUT SOME OF THOSE
02:31:28 HIGHLIGHTED RECOMMENDATIONS JUST TO COVER WITH YOU.
02:31:32 SO LOOKING AT ESTABLISHING A CITY INTERNAL EBO WORKING
02:31:38 GROUP AND THIS GROUP WILL DEVELOP THIS ACTION PLAN BASED
02:31:40 ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE 22 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S
02:31:44 IN YOUR POWER POINT PRESENTATION, WITH SHORT-TERM,
02:31:49 MID-TERM, WE WANT TO GET THIS THING RUNNING REALLY
02:31:55 QUICKLY.
02:31:57 A TIMELINE.
02:31:58 AND THIS WILL GIVE YOU, COUNCILMEN, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE
02:32:04 THAT WE ARE DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, AND WE WANT TO SHOW
02:32:08 YOU OUR COMMITMENT JUST AS YOU ARE COMMITTED TO WHAT WE
02:32:13 ARE DOING.
02:32:18 FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF THE 22, IN LOOKING AT HOW
02:32:23 DO WE INCREASE OUR RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY --
02:32:31 INTERNALLY?
02:32:32 THAT HAS BEEN A QUESTION FROM A NUMBER OF YOU, SO WE WILL
02:32:35 BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE EBO WORK FUNCTIONS TO A
02:32:39 MINORITY CONSULTANT TO ADD TO THE BAND WIDTH AND THOSE
02:32:44 BOTTLENECKS THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING SOME OF OUR
02:32:50 PROCESS TIMES AND CONTRACTS.
02:32:52 MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUSINESS
02:32:55 OWNERS OR CONTRACTORS, SMALL BUSINESS CONTRACTORS,
02:32:58 UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING, AND UNDERSTAND THE VERBIAGE
02:33:04 AND THE NOMENCLATURE.
02:33:06 WE WILL BE HOLDING SIX-MONTH PROJECT "LOOK AHEAD"
02:33:11 OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL ACTUALLY WORK US THROUGH WHAT IS
02:33:16 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RFP AND THE RFQ?
02:33:19 WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
02:33:22 SO WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE TYPES OF OUTREACH
02:33:25 ACTIVITIES TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL PROCESS BOTH INTERNALLY
02:33:31 AS WELL AS EXTERNALLY.
02:33:33 WE WILL BE PROVIDING A QUARTERLY REPORT TO COUNCIL SO YOU
02:33:39 WILL KNOW WHAT IS ON THE HORIZON, AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU
02:33:43 AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS EVEN BEFORE.
02:33:50 IT WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION ON THE DATA SO THAT YOU
02:33:52 CAN ACTUALLY ADD YOUR COMMENTS TO US AS WELL AS WHAT
02:34:00 COMES BEFORE COUNCIL.
02:34:01 WE DO THAT OFTENTIMES, WE ARE IN A REACTIVE MODE, AND WE
02:34:05 WANT TO FROM REACTIVE TO MORE REACT -- PROACTIVE.
02:34:13 WE WILL HAVE MATCHMAKING WITH CONTRACTORS.
02:34:19 WE HAVE EVENTS WITHIN THE LAST QUARTER THAT WAS INDEED
02:34:23 SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND UPON THAT SO
02:34:27 THAT, AGAIN, MAKE YOU AWARE OF WHAT PROJECTS ARE COMING
02:34:36 DOWN THE PIPELINE.
02:34:38 AND THEN WE ALSO DISCUSSED AND WE WILL CONDUCT INDUSTRY
02:34:42 FORUMS THAT WILL BE HELD BY CAD, OUR CONTRACT ADMIN
02:34:49 DEPARTMENT AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, IN ADVANCE OF
02:34:55 PROJECTS SO AGAIN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE
02:34:57 OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE HORIZON.
02:35:08 SO AGAIN, DID POWER POINT PRESENTATION, AND JUST PULL IT
02:35:14 OUT, NOT THAT ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHERS, BUT
02:35:19 JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DELIVERING.
02:35:22 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AGAIN, WE HAVE A TEAM OF
02:35:25 EXPERTS AROUND THE TABLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN ANY
02:35:29 OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
02:35:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS
02:35:34 TIME?
02:35:36 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:35:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:35:42 OCEA, THANK YOU.
02:35:44 OBVIOUSLY THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS BUT CLEARLY A
02:35:49 WORTHWHILE EFFORT.
02:35:50 WE APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR TIME TEAM, MR. HINES, SPEARMAN
02:35:55 AND THE FOLKS THAT WORKED ON THIS.
02:35:57 I THINK WE ARE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.
02:36:05 I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE
02:36:07 TO SEE THOSE 22 RECOMMENDATIONS, SO WE HAVE THE POWER
02:36:14 POINT, MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
02:36:16 BUT BEFORE WE GO THERE, I DID HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
02:36:21 ONE WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED EARLIER, WHICH RELATES TO 7.
02:36:27 I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I MISREAD IT BUT I THOUGHT I SAW
02:36:30 WHERE IT SAID OUR GOAL FOR 2020 WAS FOR EBE AND FOR
02:36:39 HISPANIC BUSINESS WAS 4% EACH.
02:36:41 BUT I THOUGHT THAT'S VERY MODEST, UNIMPRESSIVE GOAL.
02:36:50 HOW DO WE MAKE GREAT STRIDES AND GREAT HEADWAY IF OUR
02:36:54 GOAL IS SO MODEST AS MERELY REFLECTS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN
02:37:00 2019?
02:37:01 SO TELL ME IF I MISREAD THAT, AND THAT'S GOOD, I WILL BE
02:37:06 GLAD TO BE TOLD THAT.
02:37:07 AS RELATES TO THE WOMAN-OWNED BUSINESS, AND, OF COURSE,
02:37:13 I'M TOTALLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES,
02:37:18 ESPECIALLY AFTER CONSTRUCTION WORK WHERE MOST OF OUR
02:37:22 MONEY IS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN ACCUSATIONS THAT SOMETIMES
02:37:28 A COMPANY MIGHT BE CALLED WOMEN OWNED WHEN IN FACT IT'S
02:37:32 THE HUSBAND'S COMPANY AND THEY PUT IT IN THE WIFE'S NAME.
02:37:35 SHE'S THE 51% SHAREHOLDER BUT NOT REALLY AN ACTIVE PART
02:37:39 IN IT, WHICH GETS A LITTLE SHAKY AND PERHAPS ON THE
02:37:43 BORDERLINE OF FRAUD.
02:37:45 I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYONE IN PARTICULAR.
02:37:47 BUT I DO HEAR THESE STORIES ANECDOTALLY.
02:37:51 SO SOME OF OUR AGENCIES CAN ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
02:37:57 DO WE HAVE ANY RULES ABOUT THAT SORT OF SHADY REPORTING,
02:38:06 PARTICIPATION, JUST SO THEY GET INTO THE WMBE PROGRAM?
02:38:12 AND IF WE DON'T, MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD THAT TO OUR LIST.
02:38:16 AND IF WE DO, ARE WE ENFORCING IT?
02:38:23 >> CARL BRODY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, NEW
02:38:32 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, AND I HAVE BEEN TAXED WITH
02:38:34 TAKING ON SOME LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE DBO
02:38:43 PROGRAM.
02:38:43 AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE STATISTICS AND THE
02:38:45 GOALS SET, IS THAT ALL THIS IS REALLY CONTROLLED BY
02:38:52 SUPREME COURT CASE LAW AND CASE LAW FROM THE OTHER
02:38:55 FEDERAL JURISDICTIONS.
02:38:57 AND PRETTY CONSISTENTLY, WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT THE
02:39:01 COURT CONSIDERS THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS RACE CONSCIOUS
02:39:07 PROGRAMS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE
02:39:09 14th AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
02:39:14 THE RESULT IS THAT IN ORDER FOR THESE PROGRAMS TO
02:39:18 SURVIVE, IN ORDER FOR THESE PROGRAMS TO BE APPROVED, THEY
02:39:21 HAD TO SATISFY STRICT SCRUTINY STANDARDS WHICH MEANS THEY
02:39:24 HAD TO PROVIDE A CONFINED GOVERNMENT INTEREST THAT'S
02:39:29 DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE THAT INTEREST TO. BOIL THAT DOWN
02:39:31 REALLY WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, AND SPECIFICALLY
02:39:34 REGARDING THE NUMBERS AND THE GOALS THAT ARE SET, IS THEY
02:39:40 NEED TO SEE STUDIES, AND WE PROVIDE STUDIES TO SUPPORT
02:39:43 OUR USE OF THESE PROGRAMS, BUT THE STUDIES LIMIT US TO
02:39:49 REQUIRING THAT THE THOSE WMBE PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY
02:39:56 READY, WILLING AND ABLE TO PERFORM THE SERVICES, IN A
02:40:00 SPECIFIC INDUSTRY, SO INDUSTRY BY INDUSTRY, THAT'S THE
02:40:05 HIGHEST NUMBER WE CAN USE IN TERMS OF SETTING GOALS.
02:40:07 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF ONE OF THE CONTRACTS WAS LET FOR A
02:40:14 PAINTING CONTRACTOR, WE LOOK TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT TO THE
02:40:18 TOTAL OVERALL 25% DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE TAMPA BAY AREA, BUT
02:40:23 WE LOOK TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PAYERS, OF PAYING
02:40:27 CONTRACTORS THERE ARE, IN THE COMMUNITY.
02:40:30 SO IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE 10%, THE MAXIMUM GOAL WE CAN SET
02:40:34 IS 10%.
02:40:36 IF WE GO OVER THAT, THE COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT AND SEE
02:40:41 WHAT THEY CALL -- WHICH CAN RESULT IN US NOT BEING
02:40:47 SUCCESSFUL IN MAINTAINING THE PROGRAM.
02:40:51 SIMILARLY, IF THE GOALS SET, THE GOALS SET BY THE
02:40:57 SPECIFIC STATES FOR ANY OTHER SPECIFIC INDUSTRY, SO IT'S
02:41:01 GOING DO INDUSTRY BY INDUSTRY, IT'S GOING TO BE BASED
02:41:06 SPECIFICALLY ON DIFFERENT RACIAL CLASSIFICATIONS, LIKE
02:41:10 HISPANIC, ASIAN, NATIVE AMERICAN, OR SEPARATELY ON THE
02:41:15 FEMALE CATEGORY.
02:41:16 SO EACH GOAL IS VERY DISTINCT, VERY SEPARATE, AND THEY
02:41:22 HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGES.
02:41:25 THOSE PERCENTAGES HAVE TO CORRELATE DIRECTLY TO THAT
02:41:28 PERCENTAGE OF BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ABLE
02:41:33 TO DO THE WORK THAT'S BEING BID OUT.
02:41:36 SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS COME IN LOWER
02:41:39 THAN THE 25% THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THAT IS
02:41:46 BLACK, HISPANIC, WHATEVER THAT PERCENTAGE IS OVERALL IN
02:41:48 THE COMMUNITY.
02:41:51 DID I ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION?
02:41:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I HEAR YOU, AND I MET RICK A
02:41:57 LONG TIME AGO.
02:41:59 SAME NUMBER OF YEARS BACK IN LAW.
02:42:01 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION.
02:42:02 AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU AS AN ATTORNEY.
02:42:05 BUT FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S SORT OF THE
02:42:09 CHICKEN AND THE EGG.
02:42:10 HOW DO WE MAKE ANY PROGRESS IF WE SAY, WELL, WE WANT, YOU
02:42:14 KNOW, WE WANT THERE TO BE 10% BLACK OR HISPANIC PAINTING
02:42:22 COMPANIES, BUT THERE'S ONLY 4%, SO, THEREFORE, THAT'S THE
02:42:28 BEST WE CAN PUSH FOR.
02:42:31 I MEAN, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN REGARD TO THE LAW.
02:42:34 BUT, AGAIN, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER
02:42:44 COMMUNITIES OUT THERE THAT HAVE FIGURED OUT WAYS TO SET
02:42:48 GOALS --
02:42:58 >> AND MAYBE AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU CALL THEM GOALS
02:43:03 AND THEN YOU GET IN TROUBLE IN COURT.
02:43:05 >> EXACTLY.
02:43:06 AND THAT'S THE DANGER THAT I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
02:43:10 EARLIER TODAY, AROUND THIS TABLE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
02:43:13 SETTING THOSE GOALS AND HAVING A GENERAL VISION OF WHERE
02:43:15 YOU WANT TO GO.
02:43:17 HAVING A VISION IS FINE.
02:43:20 NOW, THE GENERAL VISION DOESN'T HAVE REAL TEETH.
02:43:23 BUT HAVING A GOAL IS LIMITED, BUT WE CAN IMPROVE GOALS.
02:43:32 I THINK THE FOLKS AROUND HERE WITH ME WERE TALKING ABOUT
02:43:34 DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT, AND REALLY CONSISTENT WITH
02:43:37 THAT SECOND SLIDE, OUTREACH, AND PROGRAMS LIKE THAT,
02:43:43 WHERE WE CAN JUST INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ELIGIBLE READY
02:43:48 WILLING AND ABLE MINORITY WOMEN, BUSINESSES.
02:43:51 THAT'S THE WAY TO GO.
02:43:52 THAT'S THE WAY TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD, AND TO NOT BE
02:43:56 SUBJECT TO ANY POTENTIAL LEGAL LIABILITIES.
02:44:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER?
02:44:04 MR. ATTORNEY?
02:44:06 LET ME CHIME IN ON THAT.
02:44:07 BECAUSE WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT DATA.
02:44:13 WHERE IS THE DATA?
02:44:14 NUMBER TWO, WE ARE NOT OUTREACHING TO SEE WHERE THESE
02:44:18 PEOPLE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.
02:44:18 A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF PAINTERS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
02:44:21 CAN DO ASPHALT, CONCRETE, BUT IT REALLY GOES BACK DO US
02:44:26 EDUCATING TO THE GOVERNMENT SYSTEM VERSUS DID PRIVATE
02:44:29 SECTOR.
02:44:29 I SEE PAINTERS EVERY DAY.
02:44:31 I SEE GUYS LAYING MUD EVERY DAY.
02:44:33 SO HOW COME WE ARE NOT -- GETTING THOSE FOLKS TO SAY FOR
02:44:38 OUR GOALS, BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE?
02:44:40 SO I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
02:44:41 I AGREE, ABOUT OUTREACH, BUT OUR DATA NOW, WHERE ARE
02:44:48 THOSE PEOPLE AT, OR WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT CAPTURED?
02:44:51 THOSE ARE MY ISSUES WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DATA ALL THE
02:44:53 TIME.
02:44:53 WHERE IS IT?
02:44:55 BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT OTHER PLACES AND I CONTACT THEIR
02:44:59 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, OR THEIR MAYORS, AND THEY TELL ME
02:45:02 THEY FOUND A WAY TO MANEUVER AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN TO
02:45:06 CHANGE THEIR GOAL SETTINGS.
02:45:08 WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT?
02:45:10 SO TO ME, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT OTHER PEOPLE
02:45:13 HAVE BEST PRACTICES IN PLACES.
02:45:17 OTHER CITIES, STATES, THAT HAVE BEST PRACTICES.
02:45:19 BUT YET I DON'T SEE ANY OF THEM IN YOUR BOOK.
02:45:23 YOU LOOK UP AT ST. PETE.
02:45:25 HOW DO YOU SEE ST. PETE AS COMPARED TO US AS A LOT OF
02:45:29 OTHER PLACES? SO WE GAVE SEVERAL SPECIFIC CITIES AND
02:45:33 STATES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY OUR CONSULTANT
02:45:36 AND SHOULD HAVE SEEN WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES WERE AND I
02:45:40 DIDN'T SEE THAT IN YOUR PACKET.
02:45:41 SO I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOUR
02:45:43 CONSULTANT WAS TOLD TO CONTACT SOME PLACES FOR BEST
02:45:46 PRACTICES AND THAT WASN'T HAPPEN.
02:45:47 SO I BEG TO DIFFER WITH SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS ON THE
02:45:49 FIRST POINT.
02:45:50 SECOND ONE ON ENGAGEMENT IS KEY.
02:45:53 I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
02:45:54 THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
02:45:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY RESPONSE IN
02:45:59 REGARD TO MY WMBE, PARTICULARLY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS
02:46:02 CONCERN.
02:46:02 >>JOHN BENNETT: I WANT TO REPHRASE THE QUESTION THE WAY
02:46:12 I HEARD TO THE MAKE SURE STAFF CAN REPLY.
02:46:15 I THINK WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IS THAT IF SOMEBODY REGISTERS
02:46:19 AS A CERTIFIED WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS, AND IF YOU UNPACK
02:46:26 THAT, OR THROUGH THE SEARCH PROCESS SOMEBODY REALIZES
02:46:30 THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE CORRECT TERM BUT IT'S
02:46:34 SOMEWHAT OF A PASS-THROUGH SYSTEM, ARE WE LOOKING THROUGH
02:46:37 THAT?
02:46:37 IS IT ILLEGAL?
02:46:38 IS IT NOT ILLEGAL?
02:46:39 IS IT CAPTURED?
02:46:40 IS IT INVESTIGATED?
02:46:43 AND THEN HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT?
02:46:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE FIRST THING WE ASKED STAFF ARE
02:46:49 THE RULES AFFECTED, THAT IT'S A NO-NO, SOMEBODY, A WOMAN,
02:46:54 OR A PARTNER OR WHATEVER, NEEDS TO BE AN ACTIVE
02:46:57 PARTICIPANT IN THAT BUSINESS.
02:47:00 AN ACTIVE PLAYER.
02:47:02 SO I HOPE WE CONSIDER THAT.
02:47:03 IF THEY DON'T, AND THE LAW ALLOWS IT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD
02:47:08 MODIFY OUR RULES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO LITTLE GAME
02:47:12 PLAYING IN THAT REGARD, AND NUMBER TWO, ONCE THE RULES
02:47:16 DO -- IF THE RULES DO SAY THAT, THEN WE NEED TO ENFORCE
02:47:22 IT.
02:47:40 >>GREGORY HART: BUSINESS MANAGER EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
02:47:42 BUSINESS OFFICE.
02:47:43 REGARDING WBEs, THE CITY CERTIFICATION PROCESS, AS YOU
02:47:47 KNOW, IS VERY EXTENSIVE, AND IT IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS
02:47:55 FRONTS AND FRAUD, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA'S PROGRAM FOR
02:47:58 THAT REASON DOES NOT ENGAGE IN RECIPROCITY WITH MANY
02:48:03 OTHER AGENCIES.
02:48:03 WE HAVE A VERY HIGH STANDARD THAT NEEDS TO BE THE BEST
02:48:07 PRACTICES AND THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES.
02:48:09 AND THAT MAY IN FACT BE ONE REASON PEOPLE FEIGNED IT
02:48:14 CUMBERSOME TO DEAL WITH OUR CERTIFICATION PROCESS WHICH
02:48:16 WE ARE GOING TO WORK EVEN HARDER ON TO MAKE LESS
02:48:18 CUMBERSOME.
02:48:19 THAT'S WHY IT IS VERY INVOLVED AND EXTENSIVE.
02:48:23 TO WEED OUT THE FRAUD, THE PISS MISREPRESENTATION,
02:48:26 WHETHER IT'S A WBE, HBE, DBE.
02:48:30 I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
02:48:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, IT DOES HALF.
02:48:34 THANK YOU, GREG.
02:48:35 SO MORE DIRECTLY, DO OUR RULES SPECIFICALLY SAY WMBE
02:48:42 CONTACTS THAT IT CANNOT BE A PASSIVE OWNERSHIP?
02:48:49 >> YES, IT DOES.
02:48:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT?
02:48:55 YOU KNOW, DO WE GET KRISTEN GLOVER ON BOARD TO AUDIT
02:48:58 THESE PEOPLE?
02:49:00 OR WHO DOES ACTUALLY CHECK THAT OUT?
02:49:04 >> WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REVIEW THAT WITH THE
02:49:09 EXPERTISE WE HAVE IN-HOUSE AS WELL AS CALLED UPON, THE
02:49:13 AUDIT DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST WHEN NECESSARY.
02:49:16 AND WHENEVER THIS IS FOUND THAT MISREPRESENTATION OR
02:49:19 FRAUD EXISTS, WE DO IMMEDIATELY DECERTIFY THOSE, AND IN
02:49:25 ADDITION MAKE OUR SISTER AGENCIES AWARE.
02:49:27 IT IS UP TO OUR SISTER AGENCIES TO TAKE ACTION ON THEIR
02:49:31 OWN.
02:49:31 ADDITIONALLY, I WILL TELL YOU THAT ANYTIME WE ARE
02:49:33 INFORMED THAT A SISTER AGENCY OR FOR THAT FACT A
02:49:38 COMPETING ENTITY, AND WHO CLAIMS THAT A COMPANY MAY BE
02:49:41 PRACTICING SOME MISREPRESENTATION OR FRAUD, WE WILL
02:49:44 INVESTIGATE THAT COMPLAINT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S
02:49:47 SOME VALIDITY TO IT.
02:49:48 SO THE ANSWER AGAIN IS YES.
02:49:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, MAY I CHIME IN, SIR?
02:49:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:49:58 AND LET ME SAY FINALLY, OCEA, I THINK -- AND I TALKED TO
02:50:06 THE CHAIRMAN ABOUT THE ENTIRE LIST OF 22, BUT I YIELD MY
02:50:14 TIME.
02:50:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEAR THINGS BUT I DON'T SEE ACTION.
02:50:21 YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION, MR. DINGFELDER, ENFORCEMENT.
02:50:24 WELL, WHO IS ENFORCING IT?
02:50:26 I DON'T SEE THAT.
02:50:29 I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
02:50:30 I MEAN, WHEN I GO AND CALL OTHER AGENCIES, THEY TELL ME
02:50:34 HOW THEY ENFORCE IT.
02:50:35 THEY TELL ME HOW THEY MAKE THEIR CALLS, HOW THEY MAKE
02:50:37 SURE THEY INVESTIGATE WHO IS DOING WHAT AND HOW.
02:50:40 SO I'M JUST WONDERING, MR. HART, TELL ME, WHO IS DOING
02:50:44 THE ENFORCEMENT OF OUR CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE
02:50:47 COMPLYING, NOTE JUST SOMEBODY CALLS ON A WHIM, BUT WHO IS
02:50:52 CHECKING MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE IN PLACE AND THINGS
02:50:54 ARE IN ORDER AND NO ONE IS TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THE
02:50:57 SYSTEM?
02:50:58 YOU CAN TELL ME THAT DIRECTLY.
02:50:59 HOW OFTEN ARE WE DOING THAT?
02:51:06 >>GREGORY HART: IF TIED TO CERTIFICATION, THAT IS DONE
02:51:08 INTERNALLY AND CALLED UPON AS MENTIONED OWN INTERNAL
02:51:11 AUDITOR AND ANY OF THE OTHER AGENCIES WHO MAY BE ENGAGING
02:51:15 THOSE COMPANIES.
02:51:16 AND WE DO --
02:51:20 IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO CONTRACT COMPLIANCE IN GENERAL,
02:51:22 WE DO HAVE NOT ONLY AUTOMATED SYSTEM THAT REQUIRES THE
02:51:28 CONTRACTOR TO SUBMIT CONFIRMATION OF PAYMENT FROM THE
02:51:31 CITY, OF ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY
02:51:38 INTERFACE WITH ORACLE AND DBT SYSTEM, THAT AUTOMATICALLY
02:51:42 LETS US KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PAID, AND IF WE
02:51:44 INVESTIGATE WHETHER OR NOT OUR SUBS HAVE BEEN PAID
02:51:50 BECAUSE SUBS ARE ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM WHETHER THEY
02:51:52 HAVE BEEN PAID.
02:51:53 WE ALSO SEND SURVEYS OUT TO OUR SUBS AND WE ACTUALLY
02:51:57 CONTACT OUR SUBS IN SUSPECT CASES TO VALIDATE WHETHER OR
02:52:00 NOT WHAT THE PRIME IS TELLING US AND THE SUB IS TELLING
02:52:04 US IS CORRECT.
02:52:05 SO TO ENSURE THAT THE SUBS ARE BEING HONEST AS WELL.
02:52:09 SOMETIMES THEY ARE UNDER PRESSURE, BUT AS TO KIND OF, I
02:52:14 GUESS, SHADE THE TRUTH IF YOU WILL OR THE TIMELINESS OF
02:52:20 THEIR PAYMENTS.
02:52:20 SO THERE'S NOT ONLY AUTOMATED BUT THERE ARE INTERNAL
02:52:23 HANDS-ON DESK AUDIT PROCESSES THAT ARE ENGAGED TO ENSURE
02:52:29 COMPLIANCE.
02:52:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
02:52:35 I AM NOT DISPUTING YOU, SIR.
02:52:37 BUT IN MY MIND, MY POLICE MIND, I DON'T THINK THERE'S THE
02:52:41 ENFORCEMENT, AND WHEN I TALK TO FOLKS AT THE AIRPORT THE
02:52:44 WAY THEY DO THEIR ENFORCEMENT, I DON'T THINK THEY ENFORCE
02:52:47 THE WAY THEY ENFORCE, SIR.
02:52:49 I MEAN, THEY ARE VERY THOROUGH OUT THERE.
02:52:51 THEY MAKE SURE PEOPLE DO IT Is AND Ts, AND THEY ARE
02:52:56 CHECKING THE BALANCES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS, AND I
02:53:00 DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT LEVEL OR HAVE THAT KIND OF STAFF
02:53:04 TO DO THAT.
02:53:05 BUT I ALWAYS LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES, AND I KEEP HAMMERING
02:53:09 ON THAT.
02:53:10 WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
02:53:12 LOOK AT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING TO KEEP THE WHEEL
02:53:14 GOING.
02:53:15 SO I YIELD AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
02:53:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD YOUR
02:53:19 HAND UP.
02:53:20 >>BILL CARLSON: [OFF MICROPHONE] AND WHY WOULD THAT BE?
02:53:36 AND IS THAT BEING COUNTED TOWARD OUR NBA MEMBERS OR NOT?
02:53:48 >>JOHN BENNETT: WE HEARD HALF OF THE QUESTION.
02:53:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS MORNING, JOE ROBINSON SHOWED I
02:53:56 THINK A SCREEN SHOT FROM THE WEBSITE THAT SHOWS, I THINK,
02:54:00 WAS THAT HIS COMPANY HAD EITHER A MILLION OR MILLION AND
02:54:03 A HALF DOLLARS IN BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, AND HE SAID I
02:54:05 DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE NEAR THAT MUCH.
02:54:07 AND THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT ACCURATE?
02:54:10 IF THAT'S THERE, WHY IS IT THERE?
02:54:11 AND IS THAT ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BEING COUNTED
02:54:15 TOWARDS WMBE OR NOT?
02:54:22 >>GREGORY HART: GREGORY HART SPEAKING AGAIN.
02:54:24 YES, WE SAW THAT REFERENCE THAT MR. ROBINSON MADE, AND WE
02:54:28 ARE GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
02:54:30 BUT I BELIEVE PART OF THE MISINFORMATION OR
02:54:34 MISINTERPRETATION WAS THAT THE ONE MILLION WAS ASSOCIATED
02:54:36 WITH THE FRAME CONTRACT VALUE, AND THAT MR. ROBINSON'S
02:54:41 SUB CONSULTANT OR SUBCONTRACT VALUE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY
02:54:45 LESS THAN THAT.
02:54:46 WITHOUT LOOKING INTO IT FURTHER, THAT'S JUST MY
02:54:48 ASSUMPTION BASED ON WHAT WAS STATED AND WHAT I LOOKED AT.
02:54:51 HOWEVER, IT COULD BE A DATA ENTRY ERROR, OVERSIGHT
02:54:56 BETWEEN PARTICIPATING CRIME CONTRACT AND THE CITY.
02:55:01 SO WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
02:55:03 >>BILL CARLSON: MY COLLEAGUES AND CHIEF BENNETT AND JEAN
02:55:08 DUNCAN AND OTHERS KNOW THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
02:55:10 ACCURACY.
02:55:11 YOU KNOW, WE PUSH BACK AN INTERN AT THE CITY, ASKED SOME
02:55:15 QUESTIONS FROM THE EDC ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF THEIR
02:55:17 INFORMATION.
02:55:18 THEY CAME BACK TO US WITH FOUR PAGES SINGLE SPACE OF
02:55:20 CHANGES THAT THEY MADE BECAUSE THEY MADE ERRORS.
02:55:22 AND NOW THEY ARE NOT EVEN SENDING REPORTS TO US SO WE
02:55:25 DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY ARE GOING TO ASK
02:55:28 US FOR FUNDING NEXT SUMMER.
02:55:29 THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS ASKING US FOR $10 MILLION OF 100
02:55:34 MILLION, AND THE FACT SHEET THAT THEY SENT TO CITY
02:55:38 COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, I DISPUTED AT LEAST HALF OF THE
02:55:42 COMMENTS, AND EVEN SOME OF IT THEY SAY IS OPEN TO
02:55:46 INTERPRETATION, BUT ONE OF THEM WAS, WHEN IS THE SWFWMD
02:55:52 PERMIT GOING TO BE UP FOR RENEWAL?
02:55:54 AND WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION A WEEK LATER, I STILL DON'T
02:55:57 HAVE AN ACCURATE ANSWER.
02:55:58 I KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
02:55:59 AND THE ANSWER THAT WAS IN THE FACT SHEET WAS A YEAR AND
02:56:02 A HALF OFF.
02:56:03 AND I THINK THIS IS INDICATIVE OF A CHANGE IN CULTURE.
02:56:06 AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT THE LAST MAYOR, LAST
02:56:09 ADMINISTRATION, JUST WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
02:56:11 AND I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE NOT
02:56:14 RUN PROFESSIONALLY AND MY COLLEAGUES WILL SAY THIS IS A
02:56:17 POLITICAL ATTACK, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE
02:56:19 ARE FACING.
02:56:20 WE ARE FACING A SITUATION WHERE THE CITY WAS NOT
02:56:22 PROFESSIONALLY RUN.
02:56:23 THERE WERE PROBLEMS IN LOTS OF DEPARTMENTS, AND THE MAYOR
02:56:26 AND CHIEF OF STAFF HAVE GONE THROUGH AND CHANGED
02:56:28 MANAGEMENT, AND THERE ARE AREAS OF THE CITY I DON'T HAVE
02:56:31 CONFIDENCE IN, AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT THE COMMUNITY IS
02:56:33 COMPLAINING ABOUT.
02:56:34 WE SEE THAT OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE ABLE TO RUN IT
02:56:36 CORRECTLY, SEE THAT WATER DEPARTMENTS ARE ABLE TO GET
02:56:39 ACCURATE INFORMATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
02:56:41 HOW CAN WE EVEN HAVE STAFF MEMBERS IN A CITY GOVERNMENT
02:56:47 THAT DON'T GIVE ACCURATE INFORMATION TO ELECTED OFFICIALS
02:56:50 AND THE PUBLIC?
02:56:51 THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD STAND FOR.
02:56:53 THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS RESULTS ON THIS.
02:56:56 AND IF OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CAN GET IT, WE SHOULD BE
02:56:59 ABLE TO GET IT.
02:57:00 AND WHETHER OR NOT HITTING THESE GOALS WAS INTENTIONAL OR
02:57:03 INCOMPETENCE FROM THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, WE NEED TO
02:57:06 MAKE SURE WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS CULTURE F.A.R.
02:57:09 IT'S BEEN 2001 YEARS AND THE MAYOR AND ALL OF US ARE
02:57:11 GOING TO BE UP FOR REELECTION IN A YEAR OR SO, AND WE ARE
02:57:14 GOING TO BEHELD HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE NUMBERS UNDER
02:57:17 OUR WATCH AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THESE NUMBERS ARE
02:57:19 ACCURATE.
02:57:20 WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CULTURE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
02:57:22 WE NEED TO GET THESE COSTS INTO PLACE.
02:57:24 I AM KNOW THAT MR. BENNETT IN EARNEST IS TRYING TO CHANGE
02:57:27 THIS.
02:57:27 BUT IT'S DEEP SEEDED.
02:57:28 IT GOES FROM HELPING TO BUILD ENTREPRENEURSHIP AMONG
02:57:31 WOMEN AND MINORITY OWNED COMMUNITIES AND BUSINESSES TO
02:57:35 MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION, I MEAN,
02:57:38 WE KNOW THAT -- AND I AM SHOCKED THAT AN AUDIT HAS NEVER
02:57:41 BEEN TOTALLY DONE.
02:57:42 WE KNOW THAT A HUGE NUMBER OF CONTRACTS THAT CAME BEFORE
02:57:44 US WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WERE SINGLE BID CONTRACTS AND
02:57:48 APPARENTLY THAT WAS THE REGULAR WAY OF DOING BUSINESS IN
02:57:50 THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, AND IT'S DISGUSTING THAT THAT
02:57:54 KIND OF THING OCCURRED AND WE INSISTED THAT IT STOP, AND
02:57:57 THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS WORKED WITH US TO MAKE A CHANGE.
02:57:59 BUT IT'S REALLY SAD THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ALL THESE
02:58:02 CHANGES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO.
02:58:05 I'LL JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING AND BE QUIET.
02:58:07 MR. RANSOM AND TOPA, THE WOMEN'S GROUP, OTHER VERSUS
02:58:12 SPOKEN TO US THIS MORNING.
02:58:13 I REALLY WISH THAT YOU ALL WOULD SIT DOWN WITH THEM, AND
02:58:15 THEY ARE NOT HAPPY.
02:58:16 THEY WERE NOT HAPPY YESTERDAY WHEN THEY READ THE
02:58:19 DOCUMENTS.
02:58:19 THEN NOT HAPPY TODAY.
02:58:21 I KNOW YOU ALL MET WITH THEM BEFORE.
02:58:22 BUT PLEASE SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND LET'S
02:58:26 FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THIS.
02:58:28 WE ARE NOT HITTING THE NUMBERS.
02:58:29 AND I DON'T WANTS TO HAVE TO BE ONE OF THE VOTES THAT
02:58:34 TURNS DOWN A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT BECAUSE OUR
02:58:37 BEHIND THE SCENES PROCESSES ARE NOT GOOD.
02:58:39 I THINK WE NEED TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND DO THE THINGS
02:58:42 THAT WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO DO.
02:58:44 THANK YOU.
02:58:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:58:46 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:58:46 >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE] I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S
02:58:51 COMMENTS ON THIS.
02:58:52 YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SEND
02:58:55 AND EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO SEND IS THAT WE WANT TO USE
02:59:00 ONLY LEGAL MECHANISMS THAT WE CAN TO INCREASE PLURALISM
02:59:03 AND DIVERSITY IN CHARACTER, BUT EVERY LEGAL MECHANISM
02:59:07 THAT WE HAVE, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER SIMILARLY
02:59:11 SITUATED CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT APPARENTLY HAVE
02:59:14 BETTER NUMBERS ON THESE THINGS ISSUES, QUESTIONS ARE
02:59:16 GOING TO BE ASKED.
02:59:18 BUT OBVIOUSLY GIVEN THE DIRECTION OF COURTS WITH REGARDS
02:59:23 TO THINGS THAT PUBLIC ENTITIES CAN BE DO WITH REGARDS TO
02:59:26 DIVERSITY AND THINGS LIKE RECRUITMENT, CONTRACTS,
02:59:30 ET CETERA, WITH APPLICATION OF STRICT SCRUTINY, TO SUCH
02:59:33 RACIALLY CONSCIOUS POLICIES, IT DOES HANDICAP US JUST A
02:59:37 LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT SO MUCH THAT THESE KIND OF NUMBERS
02:59:42 SHOULD BE TAKEN AS NOT THE NEW NORMAL BUT ACCEPTING THE
02:59:46 OLD NORMAL AS THE NEW NORMAL.
02:59:49 AND IT CLEARLY SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.
02:59:51 SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WITH ENTITIES THAT DO WORK
02:59:54 WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA IS SOME SORT OF A REPORT CARD ON
02:59:59 THEIR DIVERSITY NUMBERS.
03:00:00 FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF TIMES, WE GET -- AND I'M AN
03:00:04 ATTORNEY, AND A LOT OF TIMES, AS PART OF WHEN I WAS AT A
03:00:08 FIRM FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, WE TRIED TO BID ON CONTRACTS
03:00:11 FOR BIG CORPORATIONS THAT WE GET ASKED QUESTIONS.
03:00:15 SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED SOMETIMES FOR SOME OF
03:00:19 THE MORE SOCIALLY CONSCIOUS CORPORATIONS AND ENTITIES
03:00:22 WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WOMEN DO YOU HAVE AS
03:00:25 PARTNERS, WHETHER EQUITY OR NONEQUITY, HOW MANY RACIAL OR
03:00:29 ETHNIC MINORITIES DO YOU HAVE AS PARTNERS, WHETHER EQUITY
03:00:31 OR NONEQUITY, HOW MANY VETERANS?
03:00:34 WHAT'S YOUR WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA?
03:00:37 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.
03:00:38 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES TO RENEWAL
03:00:42 CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE CAN
03:00:45 SEE WHAT THEIR DIVERSITY RECORD IS, AS A LAW FIRM, AS A
03:00:50 BUSINESS, AS AN ECONOMIC ENTITY, ET CETERA.
03:00:52 I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT.
03:00:55 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CONTRACTS THAT COME UP
03:00:57 BEFORE US.
03:00:58 SOMETIMES WE HAVE SOME DISPUTES.
03:00:59 SOMETIMES THEY PASS 5-2, 4-3, SOMETIMES THEY GO DOWN 7-0
03:01:04 BECAUSE OF A LACK OF SEEING THE NUMBERS THAT WE ALL WANT
03:01:07 ON THERE.
03:01:08 I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US AGREE WITH THE POSITION OF PLEASE
03:01:12 DON'T PUT US IN A POSITION TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON
03:01:15 SOMETHING THAT IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO THE PUBLIC,
03:01:18 BUT COMES OUT WITH NUMBERS ON DIVERSITY THAT PUT US ALL
03:01:24 TO SHAME.
03:01:25 SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO PREVENT THOSE SORT OF
03:01:30 CONFLICTS, BECAUSE NONE OF US WANT THEM, BECAUSE ALL OF
03:01:32 US WANT TO SEE CONTRACTS THAT ARE DONE IN AN EQUITABLE
03:01:36 WAY THAT CAST A BIGS NET AND WIND UP HAVING GREAT
03:01:39 RESULTS.
03:01:39 YOU KNOW, PART OF IT, WITH THE TOOLS WE HAVE UNDER STRICT
03:01:43 SCRUTINY IS THAT WE HAVE TO CAST A VERY WIDE NET, WE HAVE
03:01:46 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAST A WIDE NET GOING OUT AMONG
03:01:48 STAKEHOLDERS, AND LETTING FOLKS KNOW THE DIFFERENT
03:01:52 OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST, AND THAT'S INCUMBENT UPON ALL
03:01:55 OF US.
03:01:56 AND I KNOW WITH COVID NOW WE ARE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN
03:01:59 DO, ET CETERA, BUT I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD BE INVOLVED
03:02:02 IN MAKING SURE THAT WE TELL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS
03:02:05 AND COMMUNITY THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST WITH
03:02:09 REGARDS TO CONTRACTING, ET CETERA.
03:02:11 SO THERE'S A LOT OF BIG ISSUES HERE.
03:02:15 BUT I THINK THE MESSAGE IS THAT WHILE WE ARE GOING TO
03:02:17 ONLY USE THE TOOLS THAT ARE LEGALLY AVAILABLE DO US AND
03:02:20 THOSE TOOLS HAVE KIND OF GOTTEN SHORTENED OVER THE LAST
03:02:24 20 YEARS, UNFORTUNATELY, IN MY OPINION, BUT WE WANT TO
03:02:27 MAKE SURE THAT WE USE ALL OF THE LEGAL TOOLS, BECAUSE
03:02:30 THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT ARE OPERATING UNDER THE VERY
03:02:32 SAME LAW THAT WE ARE OPERATING UNDER THAT ARE DOING
03:02:34 BETTER THEN WE OUGHT TO LOOK TO THAT.
03:02:38 I THINK THAT'S WHAT TODAY IS ABOUT.
03:02:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:02:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:02:44 ANYTHING ELSE?
03:02:46 >>GREGORY HART: GREGORY HART SPEAKING.
03:02:48 MAY I OFFER SOME COMMENT?
03:02:49 THANK YOU, SIR.
03:02:50 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IF WE HAVE A EXPERT ON THE LINE,
03:02:56 HOGAN AND ASSOCIATES, AND I AM HOPING SHE'S STILL ON THE
03:02:59 CALL WITH US.
03:02:59 >> I'M HERE.
03:03:02 >> >>GREGORY HART: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO JUST
03:03:04 BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE INTEREST IN DOING A COMPARATIVE
03:03:09 ANALYSIS OF PROGRAMS AND BENCHMARKING, AND HOW WE MIGHT
03:03:12 GO ABOUT DOING THAT, IF IT'S PRACTICAL.
03:03:14 >> SURE.
03:03:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU TURN THE VOLUME UP?
03:03:20 >> OH, I'M SORRY.
03:03:22 CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME VERY WELL?
03:03:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT'S ON OUR END.
03:03:25 MR. HART FADED AWAY A LITTLE BIT AND IT'S HARD TO HEAR.
03:03:30 >> I'M SORRY.
03:03:45 A BENCHMARK AGAINST OTHER CITIES, AND THERE'S NOTHING
03:03:48 WRONG WITH DOING THAT.
03:03:50 AND CERTAINLY A FULL DIAGNOSTIC KIND OF REVIEW THAT SOUND
03:03:55 LIKE MANY OF YOUR NUMBERS THERE ARE INTERESTED IN THE
03:03:58 COMMUNITY, INTERESTED IN, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD
03:04:01 PROBABLY BE USEFUL.
03:04:03 JUST FOR ONE WORD OF CAUTION ABOUT LOOKING AT OTHER
03:04:08 PROGRAMS, AND THE FIRST ONE IS MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE
03:04:12 COMPARING COMPARABLE DATA SETS.
03:04:15 I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE PROGRAMS FOR OVER 30 YEARS
03:04:18 NOW, AND WE HAVE WORKED FOR AGENCIES ALL ACROSS THE
03:04:21 COUNTRY, AND PEOPLE REPORT VERY DIFFERENTLY.
03:04:27 SO IF YOU TRY TO LOOK TO SOME OTHER JURISDICTION, JUST
03:04:30 MAKE SURE THAT THE DATASET THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS
03:04:33 REALLY COMPARABLE TO YOUR OWN.
03:04:35 FOR EXAMPLE, REALLY, AN AWFUL LOT OF AGENCIES AREN'T
03:04:41 REPORTING ANYTHING ABOUT SUBCONTRACT UTILIZATION, THEN
03:04:44 THEY HAVE DIRECT STATEMENTS THAT THEY MADE THAT THEY KNOW
03:04:47 WHO THOSE CONTRACTORS ARE.
03:04:49 AND IF THEY ARE NOT FULL AND ACCURATE SUBCONTRACTORS
03:04:52 INFORMATION, AND YOU ARE NOT PROVIDING BENCHMARK.
03:05:01 CERTAINLY I THINK FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT -- AND I HAVE
03:05:03 BEEN A PRACTICING CONTRACT LAWYER FOR 35 YEARS NOW --
03:05:06 THAT THE USDOT BUSINESS ENTERPRISE PROGRAM DID SOMETHING
03:05:13 TO BENCHMARK AGAINST BOTH BECAUSE THEY ARE NATIONAL IN
03:05:17 SCOPE BUT ALSO BECAUSE EVERY COURSE THROUGH THE PROGRAM
03:05:23 REGULATIONS HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL.
03:05:27 SO WHEN WE ARE ADVISING A LOCAL AGENCY LIKE TAMPA, WE
03:05:30 ALWAYS SUGGEST THAT THEY HOLD UP THEIR PROGRAMS AGAINST
03:05:34 WHAT THE REGULATIONS SAY, 49 CFR-26.
03:05:40 JUST TO KIND OF SEE HOW CLOSE YOU ARE, AND NONLINEAR
03:05:46 PROGRAMS TO SOME EXTENT, THE DBE PROGRAM, IS A MAJOR
03:05:50 REASON WHY WE WERE ABLE TO RECENTLY SUCCESSFULLY DEFEND
03:05:53 THE ILLINOIS COALWAY PROGRAM WHICH A HIGHWAY OF
03:05:59 GOVERNMENT DOES NOT GET ANY MONEY FROM THE FEDS, IT'S ALL
03:06:02 PUBLICLY FUNDED, AND IN THE COURSE OF THAT ONE OF THE
03:06:05 THINGS THAT IT LOOKED TO AS A CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE
03:06:09 PROGRAM WAS HOW IT COMPARED TO A DBE PROGRAM.
03:06:14 THAT MIGHT BE A BENCHMARK THAT WOULD BE USEFUL.
03:06:18 I THINK THE OTHER THING TO KIND OF MAYBE FOCUS ON IS WHAT
03:06:22 CAN YOU DO -- AND I THINK I HEARD SOMEONE MENTIONING THIS
03:06:26 AS WELL -- WHAT CAN YOU DO TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF
03:06:30 THESE FIRMS?
03:06:34 HAVE YOUR CITY ATTORNEY EXPLAINED THAT THE COURTS ARE
03:06:37 EXTRAORDINARILY HOSTILE TO THESE PROGRAMS.
03:06:40 AND WHATEVER I MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT BEFORE, I AM REALLY
03:06:43 QUITE CONVINCED NOW THAT THE CURRENT MAKEUP OF THE
03:06:46 SUPREME COURT COULD WELL STRIKE DOWN A CERTAIN ACTION
03:06:51 PERIOD REGARDLESS OF WHAT KIND OF DATA YOU HAVE.
03:06:53 SO IT IS THAT THE GENERAL POPULATION ACCORDING TO THE
03:06:57 COURSE IS IRRELEVANT.
03:06:59 YOU CAN HAVE A CITY THAT WAS 80% BLOCK BUT YOU ARE NOT
03:07:01 GOING TO GET SUPPORT AN 80% GOAL.
03:07:05 IT REALLY IS THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL FIRMS THAT ARE OWNED
03:07:07 BY WOMEN AND MINORITIES THAT ARE READY, WILLING AND ABLE
03:07:11 IN YOUR MARKET TO PROVIDE WHAT YOU PURCHASE.
03:07:13 SO THAT'S A MUCH SMALLER GROUP THAN POPULATION, SAD TO
03:07:18 SAY.
03:07:19 SO FOCUSING ON CAPACITY BUILDING PROGRAMS I THINK IS
03:07:22 CRITICAL.
03:07:24 I AM VERY INTERESTED TO SEE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
03:07:27 THAT CAME OUT OF AGENCY REVIEW, AND MANY OF THEM WE KNOW
03:07:32 HOW TO DO.
03:07:33 WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA NOW WHAT A GOOD BONDING,
03:07:37 SUPPORT PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE, WHAT TYPE OF PROTEGE
03:07:42 PROGRAMS ACTUALLY WORK BEYOND TO GIVE YOU A PLAQUE AT THE
03:07:46 END OF IT AND REALLY WHAT REALLY HELPS MINORITY FIRMS TO
03:07:49 GROW AND THRIVE.
03:07:51 AND CERTAINLY YOUR EMPHASIS IN YOUR PROGRAM FROM WHAT I
03:07:54 HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE ON CONTRACTING IS IMPORTANT AND YOU
03:08:00 SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT BECAUSE TOO OFTEN YOU HAVE
03:08:02 SEEN SUBCONTRACTING PROGRAMS, AND PREFER AT THAT LEVEL,
03:08:09 BUT MANY MINORITY FIRMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND I HAVE
03:08:12 INTERVIEWED EASILY 2000 PEOPLE OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS,
03:08:16 CONSISTENTLY TELL ME THAT THEY WANT TO BE PRIME
03:08:19 ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE OF CONSTRUCTION, PROFESSIONAL
03:08:21 SERVICES, LAW FIRMS, ACCOUNTING, FINANCIAL SERVICES.
03:08:24 SOME PEOPLE DON'T LEARN ON A PRESUME/SUBMODEL OUTSIDE OF
03:08:30 THE PROGRAM.
03:08:31 BUT YOUR FOCUS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT MIGHT BE
03:08:35 SOMEPLACE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT SOME MORE ATTENTION.
03:08:38 BUT IN ANSWER TO MR. HART'S SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT
03:08:42 BENCHMARKING THERE'S NOTHING. ORG WRONG WITH DOING THAT.
03:08:45 YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
03:08:46 I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLET OUT HERE.
03:08:48 THERE'S NO JURISDICTION OUT OF THE PARK OF DOING GREAT.
03:08:56 THESE PROGRAMS REALLY REFLECT THE OVERALL SYSTEMIC RACISM
03:09:01 THAT WE SEE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SOCIETY.
03:09:03 AND THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT GOING TO BE A MAGIC BULLET
03:09:06 FOR ANYBODY.
03:09:07 BUT YOU CAN'T DO MORE AND YOU CAN'T DO BETTER, BUT I
03:09:12 WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, DON'T CRITICIZE YOURSELF OVERLY AND
03:09:16 BEAT YOURSELF UP TOO MUCH, BECAUSE NOBODY HAS FIGURED OUT
03:09:20 SOME WAY TO SUDDENLY CREATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SOLID
03:09:25 SUCCESSFUL BLACK BUSINESSES GIVEN ALL OF THE HEADWINDS
03:09:28 THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE ECONOMY THAT YOU DON'T CONTROL.
03:09:33 SO I MIGHT HAVE GONE A LITTLE FURTHER THAN GREG WAS
03:09:36 REALLY ASKING, BUT ANYWAY ...
03:09:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CARLSON.
03:09:45 >> I APPRECIATE IT.
03:09:47 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ASK A CONSULTANT A QUICK
03:09:49 QUESTION?
03:09:50 ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS BY THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THE AFRICAN
03:09:58 AMERICAN POPULATION IS PLUS OR MINUS 26% BUT OUR
03:10:01 PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN AMERICAN BUSINESSES IN THE CITY IS
03:10:04 VERY LOW.
03:10:05 I WONDER, JUST ASKING THE CONSULTANT, AS YOU HAVE LOOKED
03:10:08 AT OTHER CITIES, YOU PROBABLY ARE LAG AT A PERCENTAGE
03:10:13 OVERALL OF MBE BUT DO YOU EVER SEE HOW IT CORRELATES WITH
03:10:19 A PERCENTAGE OF MINORITIES IN THE COMMUNITY?
03:10:24 >> IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, YOU ARE ASKING WHETHER
03:10:27 OR NOT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC RACIAL GROUPS?
03:10:31 AND THEN --
03:10:34 >>BILL CARLSON: IF THE PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS
03:10:36 IN THE CITY IS 26 PERCENT, HOW DOES THAT CORRELATE WITH
03:10:39 WHAT THE BEST CITIES GET IN TERMS OF AFRICAN AMERICAN
03:10:43 BUSINESS PARTICIPATION IN THE CITY BUSINESS?
03:10:49 IS THERE A CORRELATION?
03:10:51 >> OKAY.
03:10:52 NO, I MEAN, NOT REALLY.
03:11:00 POPULATION FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT -- WELL, FROM LAW AND
03:11:05 THE FEDERAL COURTS HAVE GIVEN, I HAVE BEEN A LAWYER LONG
03:11:08 ENOUGH TO KNOW CONSTRUCTION OF THE ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING
03:11:12 ABOUT THESE ISSUES OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, PROBABLY.
03:11:16 SO NUMBER ONE, WHATEVER THE SUPREME COURT HELD IT WAS.
03:11:20 BUT WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK, PROBABLY ABOUT THE BEST YOU
03:11:24 WILL EVER SEE IS AVAILABILITY IN THE BUSINESS POPULATION
03:11:29 AT ABOUT 50% OF POPULATION.
03:11:32 THAT'S KIND OF A RULE OF THUMB THAT'S WAY TOO STRONG.
03:11:35 BUT WE OFTEN SEE THAT.
03:11:39 YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY 40% BLACK AND LATINO,
03:11:43 LET'S SAY, AND THEN THE AVAILABILITY TO BE ABOUT 20%.
03:11:48 SO THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS
03:11:51 IN THE COMMUNITY, THE COURTS HAVE TOLD US IT'S IRRELEVANT
03:11:56 TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY CAN SET A
03:11:59 GOAL.
03:12:00 AS TO --
03:12:04 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A FINAL COMMENT OR REQUEST.
03:12:06 IF THE ADMINISTRATION COULD CONSIDER HAVING THE
03:12:08 CONSULTANT SPEAK TO SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE THIS
03:12:11 MORNING, IN PARTICULAR TOBA AND SATURDAY MORNING MEN'S
03:12:15 GROUP TO LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AND MAYBE THE
03:12:17 CONSULTANT COULD HELP INTERPRET THE GAP THERE.
03:12:21 I KNOW THAT JEAN IS NODDING AND CHIEF BENNETT IS THERE.
03:12:25 I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING HARD AND OTHERS WORKING HARD
03:12:28 TO TRY TO FIX THIS.
03:12:29 SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO CLOSE THE GAP WOULD BE MUCH
03:12:33 APPRECIATED.
03:12:33 THANK YOU.
03:12:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
03:12:36 ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION THAT I NEED TO MENTION.
03:12:39 YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT A LOT OF THESE PRIME CONTRACTORS AND
03:12:42 THE CONSULTANT TALKED ABOUT PRIMES.
03:12:44 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE COME HERE AND SET UP
03:12:47 SHOP HERE IN TAMPA.
03:12:48 THEY ARE FROM OUT OF STATE.
03:12:50 AND HAVE A PILOT SHOP HERE IN TOWN.
03:12:53 WE CAN'T BE AFRAID TO LOOK AT THOSE MINORITIES FROM OTHER
03:12:57 STATES WHO WANT TO COME HERE AND DO BUSINESS AND SET UP
03:12:59 SHOP AS WELL.
03:13:00 I KNOW WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR
03:13:04 COMPANY, THOSE COUPLE OF COMPANIES, AND WE CONTINUE TO R
03:13:07 TO GIVE THEM WORK.
03:13:08 BUT TO BRING OTHERS INTO THE CITY AS WELL.
03:13:12 SO I AM HOPING WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT DIALOGUE AS
03:13:14 WELL TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING OPPORTUNITIES TO OTHER
03:13:18 PRIME MINORITY VENDORS FROM OTHER STATES, WHO COME HERE,
03:13:21 SET UP SHOP, YOU HAVE GOT MONEY HERE TO HIRE WORKERS
03:13:24 HERE.
03:13:27 I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.
03:13:29 WE CAN'T BE GOING TO THE SAME COMPANIES OVER AND OVER AND
03:13:32 OVER.
03:13:32 WE HAVE GOT TO GET SOME NEW BLACK-OWNED NEW BLOOD IN THE
03:13:35 CITY SO EVERYONE CAN PROSPER.
03:13:37 SO I AM HOPING THAT WE ALSO HAVE THAT ON THE BUCKET LIST
03:13:40 AS WELL.
03:13:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:13:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:13:43 ANYBODY ELSE?
03:13:43 >>JOHN BENNETT: THIS IS JOHN.
03:13:49 I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A CLOSING COMMENT UNLESS COUNCIL HAS
03:13:52 SOMETHING ELSE.
03:13:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:13:56 >>JOHN BENNETT: I WANT DO WRAP UP.
03:13:58 FIRST I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKED HARD ON
03:14:00 THIS.
03:14:00 I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR BRINGING IT AND MAKING IT A
03:14:03 OPERATOR FOR THE COMMUNITY.
03:14:05 I JUST WANT TO SAY -- AND I KNOW I AM ECHOING AND
03:14:08 REPHRASING THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID BY COUNCIL -- THAT
03:14:11 WE ARE NOT GOING TO RATIONAL FAILURE IN THIS
03:14:13 ADMINISTRATION.
03:14:14 IT'S JUST NOT IN OUR DNA.
03:14:15 IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
03:14:17 WHEN THINGS COMA CROSS MY DESK, I TALKED TO MR. SPEARMAN,
03:14:21 MR. HART, OCEA, JEAN, BRAD, SAL, WE ARE GOING TO TEAR
03:14:26 THINGS APART, UNBUNDLE THINGS, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE
03:14:31 CULTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION, IF WE HAVE TO MANAGE TWO
03:14:33 CONTRACTS, WE ARE GOING TO MANAGE TWO CONTRACTS.
03:14:35 IF WE HAVE TO MANAGE THREE, WE ARE GOING TO MANAGE THREE.
03:14:37 THE MAYOR HAS MADE THIS A OPERATOR.
03:14:39 SHE STARTED OUT WITH A PURCHASE TO BUSINESS.
03:14:41 SHE WENT DOOR TO DOOR, HANDED OUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF
03:14:44 CHECKS DURING THE COVID TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE
03:14:46 BUSINESSES CAN STAY AFLOAT BOTH IN EAST TAMPA, WEST
03:14:49 TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, AND WITH YOUR SUPPORT IN
03:14:54 THE BUDGET AND MOD PAYING SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS
03:14:56 THAT OCEA BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, CREATING THE QUALITY
03:14:59 ASSURANCE AND TO ALL OF THE DATA-DRIVEN COMMENTS, THAT'S
03:15:04 EXACTLY WHY WE ARE GOING TO AN OPEN PLATFORM TO MAKE SURE
03:15:07 ALL THE METRICS CAN BE VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC IN A VERY
03:15:12 CONSUMABLE WAY TO. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S COMMENT ABOUT
03:15:15 WHERE THE DENOMINATOR, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I AM WORKING
03:15:17 WITH, WITH TNI, AS WELL AS DENNIS ROGERO'S OFFICE ON THE
03:15:23 BUDGET ASSOCIATION THE PUBLIC CAN ACTUALLY SEE THESE
03:15:25 THINGS IN AN IMMEDIATE TRANSPARENT WAY AND MAKE SURE THAT
03:15:28 IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONABLE DATA, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY
03:15:34 MAYOR CASTOR IS SUPPORTED BY YOUR BUDGET APPROVAL, TO
03:15:38 CHRISTINE DOING THE DATA ANALYSIS TO THE ORGANIZATION.
03:15:43 SO WE ARE 100% COMMITTED TO MOVING THE NEEDLE ON THIS
03:15:45 WITHOUT RATIONALIZE FAILURE AND STRETCHING EVERY BIT OF
03:15:52 THESE WITH GINA AS POSSIBLE.
03:15:55 SO WE ARE VERY FAR FROM DONE, I AM VERY CONFIDENT WITH
03:15:56 THIS TEAM WE ARE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN A VERY
03:15:58 SUCCESSFUL WAY.
03:15:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:16:00 COUNCILMAN GUDES, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A MOTION?
03:16:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME JUST SAY, LET ME THANK THE
03:16:05 ADMINISTRATION FOR AT LEAST OPENING THIS DOOR FOR THE
03:16:09 CONVERSATION, THE DIALOGUE, AND TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD.
03:16:14 I HAVE TO HAVE SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
03:16:15 I WORKED WITH HIM A LONG TIME AND I KNOW HE'S THE KIND OF
03:16:18 GAPE HE DOESN'T MESS AROUND, HE WANTS RESULTS.
03:16:20 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT OLD POLICE MENTALITY, WE ARE NOT
03:16:24 USED TO JUST WAIT AS ROUND FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN.
03:16:26 WE GO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
03:16:27 AND YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN QUICKLY.
03:16:29 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE HIRE FOR THE CONSULTANT
03:16:34 TO GO DO SOME WORK AND RESEARCH.
03:16:37 I APPRECIATE MS. OCEA, MR. SPEARMAN, GINA, WORK TOGETHER
03:16:42 ON THIS.
03:16:42 BUT I KNOW WE ARE STILL MISSING A FEW THINGS.
03:16:44 I'M HOPING THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE VERY, VERY SOON
03:16:48 RATHER THAN LATER.
03:16:49 BUT THIS EVENING I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
03:16:52 THE AFRICAN COUNCIL FOR THE DISTRICT, SO ANYTHING THAT
03:16:54 DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT, I GET IT.
03:16:56 AND I GET IT THREE TIMES MORE THAN SOME OF MY OTHER
03:16:58 COLLEAGUES.
03:16:59 BUT WAY WANT TO DO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS PUT A MOTION ON THE
03:17:02 FLOOR.
03:17:02 I THINK YOU ALL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE TAMPA
03:17:06 ASSOCIATION OF BLACK AFFAIRS, TOBA, IN REFERENCE TO SOME
03:17:09 OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
03:17:10 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE STAFF,
03:17:13 ADMINISTRATION LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAVE
03:17:15 PUT FORWARD, AND WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THEIR
03:17:17 RECOMMENDATIONS, GIVE US INPUT ON SOME OF THE
03:17:20 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT TOBA HAS PUT FORTH.
03:17:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
03:17:24 GUDES.
03:17:25 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:17:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:17:30 ANY OPPOSED?
03:17:34 YOU ARE OPPOSED, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, OR YOU HAVE A
03:17:36 QUESTION?
03:17:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I'M NOT OPPOSED.
03:17:41 A COMMENT.
03:17:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:17:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I APPRECIATE YOUR
03:17:51 COMMENTS ON LEADERSHIP ON THIS, AND I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT
03:17:56 ON.
03:17:57 I APPRECIATE THE TOBA, MR. RANSOM AND HIS CREW, IN REGARD
03:18:02 TO STAYING ON THIS FOR DECADE, REALLY.
03:18:08 AND TOM BENNETT, KEEPS PUSHING THE NEEDLE AND MOVING THE
03:18:14 BALL FORWARD.
03:18:15 I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL ALL GET THERE.
03:18:18 TO GREG AND TO GINA, YOU GUYS KNOW I LOVE YOU, AND WE ALL
03:18:26 HAVE THE SAME GOAL IN MIND.
03:18:30 SO I APOLOGIZE IF I CAN BE HARSH SOMETIMES, BUT YOU KNOW
03:18:34 WHERE MY HEART IS.
03:18:37 BUT IN REGARD TO THESE ITEMS, SO WHAT'S THE PLAN IN TERMS
03:18:41 OF COMING BACK, JOHN, WITH UPDATES, THAT SORT OF THING,
03:18:45 OCEA, YOU ARE A LEADER IN THIS NOW, SO WHAT'S THE FUTURE
03:18:53 BRING US?
03:18:54 >>OCEA WYNN: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF COUNCIL APPROVES,
03:18:58 WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU IN MAY WITH OUR LIST
03:19:02 OF RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WITHIN OUR ACTION PLAN, SO THAT
03:19:07 YOU CAN SEE THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE.
03:19:11 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REPORT IMMEDIATE ACTIONABLE
03:19:16 OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE WE ARE ON THOSE, WITH THOSE
03:19:19 RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.
03:19:20 SO TWO FOLD.
03:19:21 SO FIRST, OPPORTUNITY, INCREASING THE SHELTER MARKETS,
03:19:29 AND THEN THE SECOND IS PROVIDING OUR ACTION FOR THOSE 22
03:19:37 RECOMMENDATIONS.
03:19:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MAKE THAT MOTION, AND THAT YOU COME
03:19:43 BACK.
03:19:44 DO YOU HAVE A DATE IN MAY?
03:19:46 OR FIRST REGULAR MEETING IN MAY?
03:19:50 >>OCEA WYNN: FIRST MEETING IN MAY WILL BE FINE, YES.
03:19:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND LAST, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO
03:19:55 THAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, THAT I THINK A
03:20:03 TWICE-A-YEAR UPDATE ON ALL OF THIS, UNLESS THERE'S
03:20:08 ALREADY DUPLICATIVE OF SOMETHING WE ARE ALREADY DONE, BUT
03:20:14 ANYWAY, DEFINITELY MAY WOULD BE MY MOTION, FIRST REGULAR
03:20:18 MEETING IN MAY, AND MAYBE TWICE A YEAR FOLLOWING
03:20:21 THEREAFTER UNLESS WE ARE ALREADY DOING IT.
03:20:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST REGULAR MEETING IN MAY?
03:20:30 MAY 6th.
03:20:31 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN AND CHAIRMAN.
03:20:41 IF I COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, THAT COUNCIL HAS
03:20:44 ALREADY REQUESTED A BIANNUAL REPORT ON THE PIPES PROGRAM
03:20:48 AS RELATED TO OUR EBO EFFORTS.
03:20:51 WOULD IT BE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO COMMINGLE THE REMAINING
03:20:55 DATA WITH THAT?
03:20:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
03:20:58 WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE THAT AN OVERALL BIENNIAL EBO
03:21:05 REPORT INCLUDING PIPES?
03:21:06 >>JOHN BENNETT: I MAY HAVE SAID THAT WRONG.
03:21:10 MAYBE IT'S A SEMIANNUAL.
03:21:11 I APOLOGIZE.
03:21:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU SAID IT WRONG I AM JUST --
03:21:18 ANYWAY, LET'S BE SIMPLE.
03:21:20 TWICE A YEAR.
03:21:26 MY MOTION IS FIRST MEETING IN MAY, AND REPORT ON ALL EBO
03:21:31 EFFORTS INCLUDING PIPES.
03:21:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:21:33 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:21:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:21:36 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:21:37 ALL RIGHT.
03:21:37 ANY OPPOSED?
03:21:39 GREAT.
03:21:40 ANYTHING ELSE?
03:21:42 YES, MA'AM?
03:21:46 CLERK IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN GET A CLARIFICATION ON
03:21:48 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION?
03:21:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU CLARIFY THE MOTION FOR THE
03:21:54 CLERK?
03:21:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WANT ME TO RESTATE THE MOTION?
03:21:58 IS MOTION IS THAT STAFF WILL RETURN TO US THE FIRST
03:22:01 MEETING IN MAY WITH AN UPDATE ON THE EBO PLAN, AND
03:22:07 THEREAFTER, STAFF WILL PROVIDE A REPORT TWICE A YEAR ON
03:22:14 EBO ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING PIPES.
03:22:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU GET IT, MA AM?
03:22:20 ALL RIGHTY.
03:22:22 YOU ARE ALL SET.
03:22:22 ANYTHING ELSE?
03:22:23 CHIEF BENNETT?
03:22:28 NO?
03:22:29 >>JOHN BENNETT: NO, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
03:22:30 I APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK AND WE ARE LOOKING
03:22:33 FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER NOT ONLY WITH COUNCIL BUT
03:22:35 WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUP, THE TASK FORCE, THE EQUAL
03:22:39 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL, LOOKING FORWARD TO
03:22:42 A GREAT JOURNEY TO MAKE TAMPA NUMBER ONE IN THIS SPACE.
03:22:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
03:22:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:22:48 THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
03:22:51 SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT TO NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL
03:22:55 MEMBERS.
03:22:56 I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:23:00 ANY NEW BUSINESS, SIR?
03:23:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
03:23:06 A WHILE BACK, WE NOTED THE CAPITAL TIED OUR HAND ON
03:23:16 CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENTS, AND THEY TIED OUR HANDS AND SAID
03:23:20 FOR SOME REASON THE ORDINANCE NOW SAYS THAT WE CAN ONLY
03:23:25 DO THAT TWICE A YEAR, WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTION.
03:23:29 AND SO STAFF REPORTED IN OCTOBER AND GAVE US THE REASONS
03:23:35 WHY THEY CAN REMAND BACK.
03:23:40 I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT.
03:23:42 I DON'T KNOW, IT SLID BY ME.
03:23:45 BUT I WANT TO BRING IT BACK, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE
03:23:48 SHOULD LIMIT OURSELVES TO THAT TWICE.
03:23:53 SOMETIMES NEIGHBORHOOD COME TO US AND THEY HAVE AN ISSUE
03:23:55 OR THE COMMUNITY, OR BUSINESS COMMUNITY COMES TO US, AND
03:23:58 THEY HAVE AN ISSUE AND THEY WANT A RESPONSE AND THEY WANT
03:24:01 A QUICK RESPONSE, THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT SIX MONTHS OR
03:24:04 WHATEVER FOR THE NEXT CYCLE.
03:24:05 SO WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK LEGAL STAFF TO RETURN TO US,
03:24:12 I'LL SAY THE END OF MARCH, OUR REGULAR MEETING, WITH AN
03:24:22 ORDINANCE THAT MODIFIES THAT CHAPTER -- I DON'T HAVE THE
03:24:26 SPECIFIC BOOK SECTION, I APOLOGIZE -- BY THAT SPECIFIC
03:24:29 SUBSECTION THAT LIMITS US.
03:24:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MARCH 18th REGULAR
03:24:34 MEETING BUT THEN WE HAVE AN APRIL 1st REGULAR
03:24:36 MEETING.
03:24:36 WOULD YOU MIND DOING APRIL 1st?
03:24:39 OR ARE YOU HAPPY --
03:24:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: APRIL FOOL'S DAY ALWAYS WORKS FOR ME.
03:24:45 THAT'S FINE.
03:24:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:24:46 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:24:48 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:24:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:24:50 ANY OPPOSED?
03:24:51 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
03:24:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEE YOU ALL TONIGHT.
03:24:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 5:01 P.M.
03:24:59 COUNCILMAN VIERA, ANYTHING, SIR?
03:25:01 >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE] I MOTION FOR A CITY
03:25:08 COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO BE PRESENTED TO MIRACLES OUTREACH
03:25:12 IN AUGUST FOR THE 20th ANNIVERSARY, TO PROVIDE HOMES
03:25:16 OR ASSISTANCE FOR VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, TO BE
03:25:19 PROVIDED A DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
03:25:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
03:25:23 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:25:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:25:27 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION FOR A LETTER TO THE FLORIDA
03:25:29 DELEGATION URGING SUPPORT FOR THE NATIONAL APPRENTICESHIP
03:25:32 ACT OF 2021, HOUSE HR 447 WHICH PASSED THE HOUSE IN THE
03:25:36 LAST CONGRESS AND IS BEING CHAMPIONED BY OUR WONDERFUL
03:25:41 CONGRESSWOMAN AND A FIGHTER FOR WORKING FAMILIES IN
03:25:44 TAMPA, KATHY CASTOR.
03:25:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:25:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:25:49 ANY OPPOSED?
03:25:49 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN LAST, AGAIN, I AM GOING TO
03:25:53 MAINTAIN AGAIN WHAT I SAID BEFORE, WHICH IS FOR TONIGHT,
03:25:57 FOR QUASI-JUDICIALS, AFTER MIDNIGHT, MORE OR LESS, THERE
03:26:03 COMES A TIME WHEN WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING QUASI-JUDICIALS.
03:26:07 SO DON'T LOOK AT ME WRONG.
03:26:09 IF IT'S 1:00 AND WE ARE STILL HERE, GOD LOVE IT, THAT'S
03:26:12 FINE.
03:26:12 BUT IN OTHER WORDS, JUST TO MOVE BY WITH ALL DELIBERATE
03:26:16 SPEED.
03:26:16 THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.
03:26:17 THANK YOU.
03:26:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE MY WORD.
03:26:19 I'M THE QUIET ONE.
03:26:21 I'M THE RINGO STARR OF THE GROUP.
03:26:25 I'M SHORT AND QUIET.
03:26:30 [ LAUGHTER ]
03:26:31 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
03:26:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, NOTHING TO COME FORWARD RIGHT
03:26:36 NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK MARTHA VILA FOR
03:26:41 THIS WONDERFUL CUP THAT COMMEMORATES THE SERVICE THAT HER
03:26:44 BROTHERS GAVE TO OUR COUNTRY AND THEIR MILITARY SERVICE.
03:26:48 MARCH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:26:50 MARTHA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:26:53 I WILL TREASURE IT ALWAYS.
03:26:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOTHING SIR.
03:26:56 >>BILL CARLSON: [OFF MICROPHONE] YES, I HAVE A COUPLE.
03:26:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH-OH.
03:27:01 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE IS I HAVE A CONFLICT FORM FROM
03:27:03 JANUARY 21st I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. DO WE
03:27:06 NEED TO REPORT VOTE AN THAT?
03:27:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ORIGINAL HAS BEEN FILED WITH THE
03:27:11 CLERK.
03:27:12 IT'S A RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:27:14 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND, AS WE SAID EARLIER, WE GOT
03:27:19 FLOODED WITH E-MAILS THE LAST FEW DAYS ABOUT PARKING
03:27:21 SITUATIONS.
03:27:25 A WEEK OR TWO AGO YOU ALL MOVED TOILET TO TAP 2.0
03:27:32 DISCUSSION TO NEXT WEEK.
03:27:33 I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID HAVING A WHOLE BUNCH OF E-MAILS
03:27:36 BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
03:27:38 NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN.
03:27:39 NOBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I KNOW OF HAS BEEN REACHED
03:27:41 OUT TO.
03:27:42 THERE WAS A MEETING, A HIGH LEVEL MEETING, WITH THE MAYOR
03:27:47 AND OTHER KEY OFFICIALS BUT NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE HAS
03:27:50 HAPPENED.
03:27:51 THERE'S BEEN NO COMMUNICATION PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC.
03:27:53 IF WE DON'T RESCHEDULE IT WE ARE GOING TO GET FLOODED
03:27:56 WITH E-MAILS AGAIN, AND THAT'S FINE.
03:27:57 WE CAN DO THAT.
03:27:58 BUT WE ARE GOING TO SIT THROUGH A COUPLE HOURS OF PUBLIC
03:28:02 COMMENT NEXT WEEK AND WE HAVE OTHER BIG ISSUES TO ADDRESS
03:28:05 THAT DAY.
03:28:05 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF YOU ALL SHOOT ME DOWN,
03:28:09 OKAY, BUT A POINT, WE'LL HAVE TO RESCHEDULE ANYWAY, I
03:28:13 THINK, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION THAT
03:28:16 WE RESCHEDULE THAT PURE DISCUSSION UNTIL MAY 6th, AND
03:28:23 BETWEEN NOW AND THEN ASK THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO DO AN
03:28:27 OBJECTIVE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, AND HAVE A ROBUST
03:28:32 COMMUNICATION, PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS, AND REPORT BACK
03:28:36 TO CITY COUNCIL AS TO THE FINDINGS OF THE ANALYSIS, AND
03:28:43 THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
03:28:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
03:28:47 CARLSON.
03:28:47 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:28:48 >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE] AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE
03:28:57 COUNCILMAN CARLSON PUTTING THIS OUT THERE, BECAUSE IT'S
03:29:01 SOMETHING TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE, MAY NOT GET A
03:29:04 SECOND, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:29:05 MY THOUGHTS ON THAT ARE, COUNCILMAN, WHEN IT COMES TO US
03:29:10 NEXT WEEK, IF THE OUTREACH THAT WE HAVE DIRECTED THE
03:29:15 ADMINISTRATION TO DO HAS NOT BEEN DONE, THEN WE CAN MOVE
03:29:19 FORWARD WITH IT.
03:29:19 I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY I SECOND IT BECAUSE THAT'S
03:29:22 RARE, JUST TO GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS.
03:29:24 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
03:29:25 I JUST THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
03:29:27 IT'S GOING TO BE UNNECESSARY WHIP UP OF THE COMMUNITY
03:29:30 BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER TO DEAL WITH.
03:29:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT?
03:29:35 >>BILL CARLSON: DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT.
03:29:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SECOND FOUNTAIN I CAN HAND
03:29:37 THE GAVEL TO CITRO.
03:29:39 BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.
03:29:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL TAKE THE GAVEL.
03:29:43 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
03:29:45 I BELIEVE THERE'S STILL SOME STAFF ON THE LINE.
03:29:48 MY UNDERSTANDING ORIGINALLY THERE THAT THERE WAS SOME
03:29:50 DEADLINE BY WHICH -- I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU MAKE
03:29:58 SURE THAT CONTINUING TO MAY 6th DOESN'T CREATE ANY
03:30:00 PROBLEMS.
03:30:01 >>BILL CARLSON: AND I CAN SAY, PLEASE, THERE WAS A MEMO
03:30:04 THAT WAS SENT BY WATER STAFF WHICH HAS A PAGE OF FACTS,
03:30:10 AND ONE OF THE SIMPLE FACTS WAS THEY SAID THAT THE SWFWMD
03:30:13 PERMIT WAS GOING TO RUN OUT IN 2023, AND SWFWMD SAID IT'S
03:30:19 DECEMBER, I THINK, DECEMBER 14, 2024.
03:30:23 AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN A STRAIGHT ANSWER FROM THE
03:30:28 WATER DEPARTMENT.
03:30:29 I CAN GO THROUGH THE REST AND DISPUTE.
03:30:31 TWO REASONS WE NEED TO HURRY, ONE THAT THE STATE MAY PASS
03:30:35 THIS LAW THAT WILL FORCE US TO DO IT.
03:30:39 AND THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY IS THE CITY LOBBYING TO
03:30:42 COST US $400 MILLION PLUS?
03:30:44 AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, IF THAT GOES THROUGH, THAT
03:30:47 SWFWMD MONEY MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE.
03:30:49 THE FOLKS I TALKED TO IN AND AROUND SWFWMD SAID THERE'S
03:30:53 NO REASON TO HURRY, MAY IS FINE.
03:30:55 IF THE LEGISLATURE HITS US WITH THIS, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS
03:30:58 IT AT THAT POINT, AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE OPTIONS IN A
03:31:01 FAIR WAY AND WE CAN LOOK FOR MONEY FROM SWFWMD AND OTHER
03:31:05 AGENCIES THE MONEY IS NOT GOING TO DISAPPEAR.
03:31:07 BUT I AM CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT WILL
03:31:10 SAY.
03:31:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY
03:31:16 SUPPORT TO A DEGREE MOVING IT.
03:31:17 AGAIN I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS.
03:31:19 BUT ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WHO TO ME IS MR. WATER, CHARLIE
03:31:22 MIRANDA, MAY NOT BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
03:31:25 HE SITS ON TAMPA BAY WATER.
03:31:28 JUST SOMETHING THAT AGAIN I AM RESPECTFULLY NOT GOING TO
03:31:32 VOTE FOR THIS.
03:31:32 BUT JUST A THOUGHT, WHICH IS JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE
03:31:36 FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH.
03:31:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S STAFF ON THE LINE, IS
03:31:39 THERE ANY ISSUE WITH SHOULD THIS PASS WITH GOING TO MAY
03:31:44 6th?
03:31:47 (AUDIO FEEDBACK).
03:31:49 >>JOHN BENNETT: THIS IS JOHN BENNETT.
03:31:54 CAN YOU REPHRASE THE REQUESTED MOTION?
03:31:56 THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK.
03:31:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION WAS INSTEAD OF HAVING THE
03:32:01 PURE DISCUSSION NEXT THURSDAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS
03:32:04 REQUESTED THAT IT BE CONTINUED UNTIL MAY 6th FOR SOME
03:32:09 OF HIS CONCERNS.
03:32:11 AND THE QUESTION IS, WITH YOU ON THE LINE AND OTHER
03:32:15 STAFF, IF THE PURE DISCUSSION IS POSTPONED UNTIL MAY
03:32:19 6th, DOES THAT AFFECT ANY DEADLINES OR PUT US IN ANY
03:32:22 KIND OF LIMBO OR JEOPARDY?
03:32:24 >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT.
03:32:30 WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF JEAN DUNCAN'S OFFICE, I WOULD SAY
03:32:33 THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT DOES PUT SOME
03:32:36 TIMELINES IN JEOPARDY, THE WAY I HAVE BEEN TOLD, AND I
03:32:39 KNOW STAFF HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH PARTNERS TO BRING
03:32:43 BACK A MODIFIED APPROACH.
03:32:46 I BELIEVE THE MEMO IS IN YOUR IN BOX NOW THAT REALLY
03:32:50 WORKED WITH THE PARTNERS TO RIGHT SIZE THIS REQUEST.
03:32:54 I THINK I HEARD COUNCILMAN VIERA'S COMMENT ABOUT,
03:33:00 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND OF COURSE OUR WISHES AND THOUGHTS
03:33:03 ARE WITH HIM, WHETHER HE WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE 4th
03:33:05 AS MR. WATER AS WELL, BUT IT WOULD BE MY REQUEST TO KEEP
03:33:11 IT ON THE 4th, AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON BETWEEN
03:33:14 NOW AND THE 4th WE NEED TO CONTINUE IT TO THE
03:33:17 18th, BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED BEGUN MAY BASED ON WHAT
03:33:20 I KNOW RIGHT NOW.
03:33:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
03:33:22 WE HAVE JAN MCLEAN IS HERE. CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION
03:33:26 ON WHETHER THIS WOULD AFFECT ANY DEADLINES OR THROW
03:33:29 ANYTHING INTO LIMBO?
03:33:31 >>JAN MCLEAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.
03:33:38 JAN MCLEAN OF THE OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.
03:33:43 YES.
03:33:46 IN A WORD, IF WE DELAYED THE PRESENTATION AND ANY ACTION
03:33:50 BY CITY COUNCIL UNTIL MAY, THERE IS THE CONSIDERATION OF
03:33:54 THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND OUR
03:33:58 PENDING APPLICATION IN FRONT OF IT.
03:34:00 THEY WILL BE TAKING IT ON FEBRUARY 11.
03:34:06 AND I AM NOT CERTAIN BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE MAKING
03:34:08 A DECISION, AGAIN, IN APRIL, AND THEN FINAL DECISIONS IN
03:34:14 JUNE.
03:34:15 SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT SCHEDULE.
03:34:19 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT THE WATER
03:34:26 DEPARTMENT BRING SOMEBODY FROM SWFWMD TO STATE THIS,
03:34:29 BECAUSE THE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD ARE OTHERWISE.
03:34:32 AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT WEEK IS THAT WE ARE GOING
03:34:35 TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCHING OF COMMUNITY IN THE COMMUNITY
03:34:38 DISPUTING THE FACTS OF WHAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS
03:34:40 SAYING, AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO THERE.
03:34:44 YOU KNOW, CHARLIE MIRANDA SAID LAST TIME IF SOMEBODY
03:34:47 DIDN'T TELL THE TRUTH, THEN CITY MAY DEMAND THEY GET
03:34:51 FIRED.
03:34:51 AND I AM REALLY CONCERNED THAT WE ARE GETTING SO MUCH
03:34:53 MISINFORMATION, AND YOU ALL MAY THINK IT'S POLITICAL THAT
03:34:56 I HAVE SOME OTHER AGENDA.
03:34:57 I DON'T.
03:34:57 I DON'T LIKE NOT BEING TOLD THE TRUTH.
03:34:59 I DON'T LIKE BEING TOLD THAT A PERMIT IS GOING TO RUN OUT
03:35:02 IN 2023 WHEN IT'S GOING TO RUN OUT AT THE END OF 2024 AND
03:35:05 I CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST AND SHOW YOU HOW THE
03:35:07 FACTS THAT WE ARE GIVEN ARE NOT TRUE.
03:35:09 AND WE SHOULD BE REALLY CONCERNED.
03:35:11 $10 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.
03:35:13 400 MILLION IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
03:35:15 AND THERE ARE LOTS OF CONCERNS FOR THE PUBLIC.
03:35:17 THERE'S NO WAY WE ARE GOING TO KNOW THE ANSWERS BY NEXT
03:35:19 WEEK.
03:35:22 >>JAN MCLEAN: ACTUALLY, SIR, IF I COULD ASK YOU, YOU
03:35:24 DAUGHTER THE CALENDAR THAT I JUST SET OUT FOR YOU AS FAR
03:35:29 AS FEBRUARY 11th?
03:35:32 DO YOU HAVE THE OTHER DATES?
03:35:34 >>BILL CARLSON: THE FOLKS I HAVE SPOKEN TO IN AND AROUND
03:35:37 SWFWMD SAY THERE'S NO URGENCY.
03:35:39 THERE MAY BE DATES THAT ARE SCHEDULED WHERE THEY ARE
03:35:41 GOING TO BE APPROVING THINGS BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE
03:35:43 SHORTAGE OF MONEY.
03:35:44 AND COULD YOU TELL US IN THE BILL THE LEGISLATURE IS
03:35:48 PUSHING FORWARD BY WHAT DEADLINE WOULD WE HAVE TO AT
03:35:51 LEAST START A CURE FOR THIS?
03:35:53 >>JAN MCLEAN: WE WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A PLAN TO
03:35:56 ELIMINATE OUR OR HEAVILY DISRUPT OUR DISCHARGE BY
03:36:01 NOVEMBER OF 2021 THIS YEAR, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE
03:36:06 CERTAIN PROJECTS ONLINE TO ACCOMMODATE TO REVIEW THAT
03:36:11 PLAN, AND THEN IF THEY APPROVE THAT PLAN, WE WOULD HAVE
03:36:14 BETWEEN 5 AND 7 YEARS BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT
03:36:19 DONE.
03:36:20 I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE SWFWMD QUESTION, THOUGH.
03:36:23 WHETHER THERE IS OR ISN'T MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE.
03:36:29 THEY HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE TO MEAT.
03:36:31 AND IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW, IF WE DON'T HAVE
03:36:36 OUR APPLICATION COMPLETE, IF WE DON'T HAVE TAMPA --
03:36:38 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU THINK WE COULD HAVE SOMEBODY FROM
03:36:40 SWFWMD TO SAY THAT?
03:36:42 >>JAN MCLEAN: I DON'T KNOW.
03:36:43 WE COULD CERTAINLY ASK THEM.
03:36:45 >>BILL CARLSON: AT THIS POINT HONESTLY I DON'T TRUST
03:36:49 MOST OF WHAT'S COMING FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
03:36:51 I CAN BRING EXPERTS NEXT WEEK WHO WILL SHOW THAT THE
03:36:53 INFORMATION BEING PRESENTED IS NOT TRUE.
03:36:55 I REQUEST THAT -- YOU THINK I WOULD PUT MY REPUTATION ON
03:36:59 THE LINE TO GET THIS ANGRY ABOUT THIS.
03:37:01 BUT THE FACT THAT I HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THE
03:37:03 INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN IS NOT ACCURATE AND NOT EXACTLY
03:37:06 ACCURATE IS REALLY DISTURBING.
03:37:08 AND WE KNOW THAT WHAT IT BRINGS UP IS IT MAKES ME
03:37:11 QUESTION ALL THE OTHER MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS,
03:37:15 2.9 BILLION IN PROJECTS, AND SHOULD WE BE ASKING THE SAME
03:37:19 QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THE OTHERS?
03:37:21 GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE FACTS.
03:37:23 I CAN FORWARD YOU ALL THE E-MAILS WHERE I WENT BACK AND
03:37:25 FORTH WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT IF YOU WANT.
03:37:27 I HAVEN'T BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE.
03:37:29 BUT WE CAN BRING A WHOLE BUNCH OF EXPERTS HERE.
03:37:31 UNFORTUNATELY IT'S GOING TO TAKE HOURS AND HOURS TO
03:37:33 DEBATE THIS.
03:37:33 IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE ME.
03:37:35 THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
03:37:37 GOING TO DEBATE IT.
03:37:38 >>JAN MCLEAN: WHAT YOU REQUESTED WAS THE SCHEDULE AND
03:37:41 WHAT WE ARE SUBMITTING TO SWFWMD.
03:37:45 ALSO, I AM HERE AS A LICENSED PRACTICING ATTORNEY, SO I
03:37:50 WOULDN'T PUT OUT MISREPRESENTATION, WHETHER I MAKE A
03:37:57 MISTAKE ON A YEAR OR TWO AS FAR AS AN APPLICATION, I WILL
03:38:00 BE GLAD TO --
03:38:02 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THE MEMO THAT I WAS GIVEN I DON'T
03:38:04 THINK CAME FROM YOU, SO I WAS NOT CRITICIZING YOU.
03:38:07 >>JAN MCLEAN: I AM STANDING HERE TELLING WHAT YOU THE
03:38:10 DATES ARE.
03:38:10 I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH YOU WHEN I
03:38:13 COULD CERTAINLY GET THIS SCHEDULE FROM SWFWMD, IF WE
03:38:16 CAN'T HAVE SOMEBODY HERE, I WILL HAVE SOMETHING SENT TO
03:38:18 ME AND I WILL PRESENT IT TO YOU.
03:38:20 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THOUGH, IN THE
03:38:22 INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PRESENTED, THERE'S A FINE LINE
03:38:25 BETWEEN WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S NECESSARY.
03:38:28 SO YES, THERE MAY BE CERTAIN DATES SCHEDULED, BUT THE
03:38:33 QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE DEADLINE WITHIN WHICH WE HAVE TO
03:38:37 OPERATE, OR CAN THAT DEADLINE BE EXTENDED? WHAT ACTUALLY
03:38:41 IS SWFWMD'S DEADLINE WITHIN WHICH WE HAVE TO WORK?
03:38:45 THAT'S THE QUESTION.
03:38:47 NOT WHEN THEIR MEETINGS ARE.
03:38:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:38:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:38:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING.
03:38:57 BUT MR. CARLSON DOES HAVE ONE POINT.
03:39:01 IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE DATES THAT THESE APPLICATIONS CAN
03:39:05 BE FILED, WHAT IS THE LAST DATE?
03:39:09 MAY, IS IT?
03:39:10 IS IT MARCH?
03:39:11 WHAT IS IT?
03:39:13 IF YOU SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE GOT MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT WANT
03:39:16 TO SPEAK AND NOT CLEAR TO ASK THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE A
03:39:20 VOTE, AND ASKING WHAT ARE THE DATES WHERE IT MAY PASS,
03:39:23 BUT WHAT SORE OTHER DATES, JUST IN CASE, YOU KNOW, YOU
03:39:26 MIGHT WANT TO DO THE FEBRUARY DATE DEADLINE, BUT IS THERE
03:39:29 A MARCH DEADLINE?
03:39:32 SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO GET AT.
03:39:34 WHAT DEADLINES DO WE KNOW?
03:39:35 >>JAN MCLEAN: LET ME CLARIFY THE SCHEDULE.
03:39:37 AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME SO I DON'T WANT TO
03:39:40 MISREPRESENT IT.
03:39:42 I HAD A MONTH OFF.
03:39:43 BUT THIS IS WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS.
03:39:45 OCTOBER 1, EVERY YEAR, YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR
03:39:48 APPLICATION.
03:39:49 BETWEEN OCTOBER AND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WHICH THIS
03:39:53 YEAR IS FEBRUARY 11th, THEY WILL HAVE A REGIONAL
03:39:56 MEETING FOR THE TAMPA BAY AREA, WHICH IS WHAT WE SUBMIT
03:39:59 OUR APPLICATION TO.
03:40:01 AT THAT REGIONAL MEETING IS THE FIRST CONSIDERATION OF
03:40:03 THE APPLICATIONS, WHERE THOSE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNING
03:40:06 BOARD THAT ARE SITTING-AS A SMALL REGIONAL GROUP WILL
03:40:10 RANK THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ON IN FRONT OF THEM.
03:40:13 IF WE DO NOT HAVE OUR APPLICATION COMPLETE, IF IT'S
03:40:16 CHANGED, FITS REVISED, IF ANYTHING IS DIFFERENT, THEN OUR
03:40:20 RANKING CAN BE AFFECTED.
03:40:23 DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO SUBMIT
03:40:27 INFORMATION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH BY MY
03:40:30 UNDERSTANDING IS AS I REMEMBER IT NOW IS IN APRIL.
03:40:33 WE WOULD HAVE BETWEEN THEN, AND THE FIRST RANKING IS
03:40:38 CRITICAL.
03:40:38 AND THEN THE SECOND RANKING IS JUST AS CRITICAL.
03:40:42 AND THEN THE FINAL DECISION IS IN JUNE.
03:40:45 SO YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS AS YOU GO FORWARD.
03:40:49 DO YOU GET THROWN OUT AUTOMATICALLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE
03:40:52 EVERYTHING THERE IN FEBRUARY?
03:40:53 I COULDN'T TELL YOU FOR SURE THAT THEY WOULD TAKE A FINAL
03:40:56 ACTION LIKE THAT.
03:40:57 BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ACCURATE
03:41:01 INFORMATION IN FEBRUARY FOR THE FIRST CONSIDERATION OF
03:41:04 YOUR RANKING.
03:41:05 SO WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE -- TO MEET THEIR DEADLINE AS WE
03:41:09 MOVE FORWARD.
03:41:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE
03:41:12 ADMINISTRATION AND THE MAYOR.
03:41:13 I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER AND CHIEF OF STAFF.
03:41:15 I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, THIS WATER SITUATION.
03:41:19 BUT TO BE FAIR TO MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, ALL FACTS AND
03:41:26 INFORMATION, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEM ALL.
03:41:29 IF WE CAN'T -- IF WE CAN GET THE GROUP FROM SWFWMD TO
03:41:36 COME HERE ON -- NEXT WEEK, RIGHT?
03:41:39 THE 4th?
03:41:40 AND GIVE THE ACTUAL DATA, INFORMATION THAT MR. CARLSON IS
03:41:44 LOOKING FOR, I THINK THAT WOULD FAVOR YOU TO WHERE IT IS
03:41:49 A GOOD IDEA, MOVE FORWARD, OR WHATEVER I THINK, YOU KNOW,
03:41:53 IT'S A FAVORABLE --
03:41:56 >>JAN MCLEAN: I CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE SCHEDULE SENT TO
03:41:57 YOU FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SWFWMD, IF THAT'S
03:42:00 SUFFICIENT, WITHIN THE HOUR AFTER I GO BACK UPSTAIRS.
03:42:03 BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE, WHETHER THEY SEND
03:42:05 SOMEBODY OR NOT IS UP TO THEM.
03:42:07 AND THEY WOULD ONLY JUST SIMPLY STATE THE FACTS TO THE
03:42:11 SCHEDULE.
03:42:12 THEY WOULD NOT BE PRESENTING ANY INFORMATION WITH REGARD
03:42:15 TO THE PROJECT.
03:42:17 I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED IF WE CAN MAKE THE
03:42:20 PRESENTATION ON THE 4th, AND THE DECISION OF COURSE
03:42:24 IS IN YOUR HANDS.
03:42:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:42:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME START RIGHT THERE, JAN, FOR
03:42:38 PROBABLY 20 YEARS.
03:42:44 WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAID.
03:42:50 NUMBER ONE.
03:42:51 NUMBER TWO, MAYBE THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO APPEAR
03:42:58 VIRTUALLY JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCEDURES.
03:43:01 I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE.
03:43:03 SO JAN, YOU CAN ASK THEM TO DO THAT, TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY.
03:43:09 I THINK, BILL, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE THAT'S A COMPROMISE.
03:43:14 AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THIS SUBJECT.
03:43:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:43:16 ANYTHING ELSE?
03:43:17 ALL RIGHT.
03:43:17 YES, SIR?
03:43:18 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO FOLLOW UP.
03:43:20 THAT ONLY DEALS WITH ONE PIECE OF IT.
03:43:22 THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS THE LEGISLATION.
03:43:25 THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS FOUNTAIN
03:43:28 IN THE FIRST PLACE IS LEGISLATION.
03:43:30 AND JAN, COULD YOU TELL US, ARE YOU AWARE OF THE CITY'S
03:43:36 LOBBYISTS ATTITUDES TOWARDS THIS BILL?
03:43:40 I HAVE HAD THREE LOBBYISTS TELL ME THAT MEMBERS OF THE
03:43:42 WATER DEPARTMENT HAVE GONE TO TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBIED IN
03:43:45 FAVOR OF IT.
03:43:47 TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, IS THAT TRUE?
03:43:50 >>JAN MCLEAN: WELL, ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU WHEN
03:43:53 THESE LOBBYISTS THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD SEEN THE WATER
03:43:56 DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS UP THERE, BECAUSE, ONE, THAT WOULD
03:44:00 AFFECT --
03:44:01 >>BILL CARLSON: LAST YEAR.
03:44:02 NOT IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.
03:44:03 I'M NOT AWARE IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.
03:44:06 >>JAN MCLEAN: NO, THE WATER DEPARTMENT WAS NOT IN
03:44:08 TALLAHASSEE LOBBYING FOR -- WHICH WAS AT THAT TIME THE
03:44:11 TAP PROJECT.
03:44:12 THE LAST TIME THAT ANY REPRESENTATIVES OR MEMBER OF THE
03:44:15 WATER DEPARTMENT WERE IN TALLAHASSEE WAS IN NOVEMBER OF
03:44:18 19 TO ATTEND A JOINT MEETING TO INDUSTRY GROUPS AND THEN
03:44:23 WE WENT AROUND AND MET WITH LEGISLATORS TO TALK ABOUT
03:44:27 POTABLE REUSE.
03:44:28 I WAS THERE.
03:44:30 >>JAN MCLEAN: DO YOU KNOW IF THE LOBBYING TEAM FOR THE
03:44:32 CITY OF TAMPA IS LOBBYING FOR OR AGAINST THIS BILL?
03:44:35 >>JAN MCLEAN: THEY ARE NOT.
03:44:37 >> THEY ARE NOT LOBBYING FOR OR AGAINST?
03:44:39 >>JAN MCLEAN: RIGHT.
03:44:40 THE BILL HAS JUST COME OUT, BEING STUDIED BY INDUSTRY
03:44:44 GROUPS AND ALL THE UTILITIES TO LOOK AT TO THE SEE WHAT
03:44:46 THE IMPACT OF IT WILL BE.
03:44:47 >>BILL CARLSON: AND WE ARE PASSING RESOLUTIONS AGAINST
03:44:53 VARIOUS BILLS.
03:44:54 I MEAN, THIS IS ANOTHER PREEMPTION BY THE STATE.
03:44:58 IT'S GOING TO COST OUR RATE PAYERS $400 MILLION PLUS
03:45:01 OPERATING EXPENSES PLUS RESEARCH AND WHATEVER ELSE. IF
03:45:04 WE PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT ASKED LOBBYISTS TO LOBBY
03:45:10 AGAINST IT OR TO EDIT IT, YOU ARE NOT A CHARTER ATTORNEY,
03:45:15 SORRY TO PUT KNEW THAT POSITION, BUT COULD WE INFLUENCE
03:45:18 THE -- WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THIS BILL IS GOING TO GO
03:45:22 FORWARD IN SOME FORM, BUT IF WE ASKED OUR LOBBYISTS TO
03:45:26 GET THE LEGISLATORS TO MODIFY IT, IT MATE NOT BE AS
03:45:29 HURTFUL TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:45:32 DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA -- SORRY IF IT'S NOT A FAIR
03:45:35 QUESTION, BUT DOES THIS BODY HAVE ANY POWER TO TRY TO
03:45:39 SLOW DOWN OR CHANGE OR STOP THAT BILL?
03:45:41 >>JAN MCLEAN: WELL, TO THE EXTENT THAT THAN THE CITY
03:45:43 COUNCIL AND CITY OF TAMPA WOULD HAVE IMPACT ON
03:45:46 TALLAHASSEE ON ANY BILL, OF COURSE WE WOULD TAKE NOTICE
03:45:51 OF ANY ACTION THAT YOU WOULD TAKE ON A BILL FOR OR
03:45:55 AGAINST.
03:45:56 LET ME SAY, THERE ARE A LOT OF EYES ON THAT BILL, AND ITS
03:46:00 COROLLARY BILL, TO THE INDUSTRY ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL
03:46:04 GOVERNMENTS, UTILITIES.
03:46:06 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
03:46:07 IT WILL HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT FOR THOSE UTILITIES THAT
03:46:12 ARE DISCHARGING SURFACE WATERS TO MEET THE SCHEDULE THAT
03:46:15 IS SET OUT IN THAT BILL RIGHT NOW.
03:46:16 >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS FOREVER.
03:46:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP NEXT
03:46:25 THURSDAY'S MEETING.
03:46:26 HOW DO WE CONCLUDE?
03:46:28 WE HAVE A MOTION.
03:46:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY COUNCILMAN
03:46:32 CARLSON.
03:46:33 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:46:34 SHALL WE TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE?
03:46:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
03:46:49 >>THE CLERK: CAN YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE?
03:46:51 >> HE SAID NO.
03:46:53 >>LUIS VIERA: RESPECTFULLY NO.
03:46:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RESPECTFULLY KNOW.
03:46:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
03:46:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:47:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:47:04 >>THE CLERK: MOTION DENIED WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BEING
03:47:07 ABSENT.
03:47:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD I HAVE THE NOS, PLEASE, FOR THE
03:47:12 CLERK SO IT'S CLEAR IN THE RECORD?
03:47:15 >>LUIS VIERA: MANISCALCO AND CARLSON YES.
03:47:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION DENIED WITH COUNCILMEMBER
03:47:20 DINGFELDER, VIERA, CITRO, COUNCILMEMBER GUDES VOTING NO.
03:47:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
03:47:32 >>BILL CARLSON: [OFF MICROPHONE] LIKE I SAID A COUPLE OF
03:47:36 WEEKS AGO, LA GACETA POSTED A STORY SIMILAR, THAT WE
03:47:42 APPROVE THIS BIG PIPES BUDGET, AND THERE SEEMED TO BE A
03:47:46 BIG SLUSH FUND THAT'S CREATED.
03:47:48 HE CALLS IT THE WATERFRONT.
03:47:50 IN MY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PURE, A MEMBER OF THE LAST TIME
03:47:55 WHEN IT WAS TAP, WE REDUCED THE WATER RATE INCREASED BY
03:48:00 FOUR OR FIVE DOLLARS A MONTH BY TAKING TAP OUT OF THE
03:48:05 RATE INCREASE.
03:48:05 BUT IN MY CONVERSATIONS, THAN THE CFO SAID WE DON'T HAVE
03:48:10 TO GO TO ANOTHER RATE CASE IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS
03:48:14 BECAUSE WE CAN JUST REFINANCE DEBT.
03:48:16 THAT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION, IF THERE IS NOW -- PATRICK
03:48:19 SAYS IT'S LIKELY THE LOTTERY WHERE MONEY THAT WAS GOING
03:48:23 TO BE SPENT ON PIPES NOW IS SITTING AT A FUND WHERE THE
03:48:26 WATER DEPARTMENT REQUEST USE WHEREVER THEY WANT AND THIS
03:48:28 IS WITH W A CONVERSATION HE HAD WITH SOMEBODY FROM THE
03:48:31 WATER DEPARTMENT.
03:48:31 IN MY CONVERSATION WE WERE TOLD THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO
03:48:35 REFINANCE -- WE DON'T HAVE TO RAISE THE RATES TO PASS
03:48:38 WHAT RATE PAYERS TWO YEARS AGO WOULD HAVE PAID FIVE
03:48:41 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO REFINANCE
03:48:44 DEBT.
03:48:44 SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE MONEY -- IS THERE MONEY IN
03:48:48 THE WATER DEPARTMENT BASED ON THE INCREASES THAT WE
03:48:51 APPROVED THAT COULD BE REDUCED TO REDUCE THE RATE?
03:48:55 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE WATER
03:48:59 DEPARTMENT AND THE CFOs OFFICE COME BACK TO US IN A
03:49:04 MONTH, LET'S SAY MARCH 4th, TO REPORT ON THE STATUS
03:49:13 OF THE BUDGET, AND WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SAVINGS, OR
03:49:17 REFINANCING OF BONDS, WHICH COULD ALLOW US TO REDUCE
03:49:22 WATER RATES TO RATE PAYERS?
03:49:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
03:49:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:49:28 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:49:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:49:30 ANY OPPOSED?
03:49:32 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
03:49:33 THAT'S IT.
03:49:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I PASS THE GAVEL.
03:49:37 PER REQUEST OF OUR ATTORNEY SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, I WOULD
03:49:39 LIKE TO SET A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR MARCH 8th AT
03:49:44 9:00 A.M --
03:49:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
03:49:48 I BELIEVE IT'S GOING -- SHE'S GOING TO ASK COUNCIL, IF
03:49:52 YOU CAN --
03:49:55 >>> IS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ ON THE LINE REGARDING THE
03:49:58 MARCH MEETING?
03:49:59 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES.
03:50:00 SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
03:50:03 BEFORE YOU, I PREPARED FOR COUNCIL A MEMORANDUM
03:50:07 REQUESTING AGAIN THAT YOU SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALLED
03:50:10 MEETING FOR MONDAY, MARCH 8th AT 9:00 A.M. TO PICK UP
03:50:15 PUBLIC HEARINGS ON SIX NOTICES OF INTENT TO SUSPEND
03:50:18 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMITS FOR ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN THE
03:50:20 CITY THAT REPRESENT ROUND 3 AND 4 OF ISSUING NOTICES OF
03:50:26 INTENT.
03:50:27 TO SUSPEND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMITS.
03:50:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IT WOULD BE MARCH 8 AT 9 A.M.
03:50:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
03:50:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:50:38 I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION.
03:50:42 I MENTIONED TO ATTORNEY JOHNSON-VELEZ THAT HAND IN HAND
03:50:45 WITH MY REQUEST, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IF WE LOOK BACK AND
03:50:52 WORKING ON ANY TYPE OF ALTERNATIVE PROCESS THAT WE MIGHT
03:50:55 BE ABLE TO PUT INTO PLACE AND IMPLEMENT THREE OR FOUR
03:50:59 MONTHS FROM NOW WITH THE HEARING MASTER.
03:51:04 I AM NOT SAYING THAT'S GOING TO RESOLVE THESE HEARINGS.
03:51:08 THESE HEARINGS NEED TO BE SET AND MOVE FORWARD AND I AM
03:51:11 WILLING TO SUPPORT THEM.
03:51:12 BUT BEFORE WE GET PAST THE TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF
03:51:22 LEGAL COUNSEL IS AT LEAST TALKING ABOUT IT AND DISCUSSING
03:51:26 IT.
03:51:28 >>GINA GRIMES: CITY ATTORNEY.
03:51:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:51:34 GO AHEAD.
03:51:34 >>GINA GRIMES: MR. DINGFELDER, I THINK THIS MORNING WE
03:51:39 SPOKE THAT WE ARE ALREADY SCHEDULED TO COME BACK IN FRONT
03:51:42 OF YOU AT THE FEBRUARY 4th TO ADDRESS YOUR REQUEST.
03:51:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
03:51:50 SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, WOULD
03:51:55 SOMEONE THEN LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SET MARCH 8 THEY,
03:51:59 2021 --
03:52:01 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
03:52:03 VIERA.
03:52:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:52:07 MARTIN SHELBY.
03:52:08 JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THIS IS A SPECIAL CALLED
03:52:11 MEETING, AND IT IS SET ON A MONDAY.
03:52:14 AND IT WILL BE SO NOTICED AS A SPECIAL CALL MEETING FOR
03:52:16 THAT PURPOSE.
03:52:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN'T.
03:52:21 ISM GETTING MARRIED THAT DAY.
03:52:22 JOKING.
03:52:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GETTING MARRIED AGAIN?
03:52:25 WE HAVE A COUNCIL MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:52:28 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:52:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:52:30 ANY OPPOSED?
03:52:31 GREAT.
03:52:33 AND THEN I HAVE A MOTION.
03:52:35 WE DISCUSSED THE DOWNTOWN PARKING SITUATION.
03:52:39 MY REQUEST TO THE ADMINISTRATION IS THAT WE NOT ENFORCE
03:52:43 THE CURRENT RULES OF ORDINANCE 2020-122, AT LEAST UNTIL
03:52:49 WE REVISIT THIS, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO
03:52:54 WITH THIS.
03:52:55 AFTER EVERYTHING WE SAID THIS MORNING, DON'T WANT TO
03:52:59 DISCUSS IT AGAIN, THAT WE REQUEST THAT THEY NOT ENFORCE
03:53:01 THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WHILE WE SORT THINGS OUT.
03:53:04 THAT'S MY MOTION.
03:53:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT?
03:53:10 MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:53:11 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:53:14 SHALL WE TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT?
03:53:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:53:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:53:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR THE TIME BEING, YES.
03:53:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:53:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:53:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:53:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:53:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
03:53:40 FILE?
03:53:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:53:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:53:44 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
03:53:45 WE'LL BE BACK AT 5:01 P.M.
03:54:37 (MEETING ADJOURNED)
03:54:39
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