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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 28, 2021
5:01 P.M. SESSION



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04:57:24

05:04:52 [SOUNDING GAVEL]

05:05:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD AFTERNOON.

05:05:15 I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

05:05:17 MEETING TO ORDER.

05:05:18 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

05:05:19 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

05:05:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

05:05:24 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

05:05:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

05:05:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

05:05:33 ALL RIGHT.

05:05:34 FIRST IS CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.

05:05:37 COUNCILMEMBER GUDES, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOURS.

05:05:39 GO AHEAD, SIR.

05:05:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TONIGHT WE HAVE MR. BRADY COFFEY

05:05:48 KELLER.

05:05:50 HE'S 13 YEARS OLD, AT LLT ACADEMY OF TAMPA.




05:05:53 HE'S A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL JUNIOR HONOR SOCIETY AND

05:05:56 ALSO PART OF THE FALCON NEWS CREW AT LLT, IN HIS FREE

05:06:01 TIME HE ENJOYS GOING TO DISNEY WORLD AND PLAYING VIDEO

05:06:04 GAMES.

05:06:05 APPARENTLY BRADY WAS IN A CONTEST, AN ESSAY FOR WHAT IT

05:06:12 WOULD BE LIKE TO BE MAYOR.

05:06:15 AND WE HAVE MAYOR CASTOR ON THE LINE, MAYOR OF THE CITY

05:06:18 OF TAMPA.

05:06:19 >> MAYOR CASTOR: WE HAVE A PHONE GOING OFF IN HERE.

05:06:30 >> HOW ARE YOU DOING, BRADY?

05:06:36 >>MAYOR JANE CASTOR: SOMEONE LEFT THEIR PHONE IN HERE.

05:06:45 I CAN TELL YOU WHAT, YOU CAN BE MAYOR HERE IN TAMPA

05:06:50 BECAUSE IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON HERE IN THE

05:06:53 CITY OF TAMPA.

05:06:55 MYSELF IN THE MAYOR'S POSITION ALONG WITH CITY COUNCIL,

05:07:00 PARKS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO US.

05:07:02 AND HAVING ACCESS TO AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND

05:07:07 THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

05:07:07 WE ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED BY THE

05:07:10 PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION CALLED STAY AT HOME.

05:07:13 AND THAT ALLOWS OUR YOUTH TO HAVE CONSTRUCTIVE ACTIVITY

05:07:18 IN OUR OPEN PARKS UNTIL 10:00 AT NIGHT.

05:07:21 AND WE ALSO PROVIDE DINNER FOR THEM.

05:07:25 SO A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION.

05:07:30 YOU ALSO BROUGHT UP RECYCLING.




05:07:31 WE DO HAVE RECYCLING FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

05:07:36 UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES AND THEY

05:07:41 REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECYCLE APPROPRIATELY SO WE

05:07:44 SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON EDUCATING.

05:07:47 WE TAKE OVER RECYCLING PRODUCTS TO A RECYCLER AS THEY

05:07:52 HAVE DONE IN YBOR CITY AND UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE CALLED

05:07:55 BACK TO TAKE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THAT TO OUR WASTE TO

05:07:59 ENERGY, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE RECYCLING

05:08:03 APPROPRIATELY.

05:08:04 SO WE SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME ON THAT.

05:08:06 WE TALK ABOUT BEING ECOFRIENDLY.

05:08:11 AND WE ARE JUST FOCUSED ON THE ENVIRONMENT HERE IN OUR

05:08:15 COMMUNITY.

05:08:15 WE ACTUALLY HIRED THE FIRST RESILIENCY AND

05:08:19 SUSTAINABILITIES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WE

05:08:22 ARE FOCUSING ON SOLAR.

05:08:25 WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, PUTTING IT ON CITY OWNED

05:08:28 BUSINESSES.

05:08:29 WE JUST BOUGHT OUR FIRST SERIES OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

05:08:31 WE ARE ALSO -- I MENTIONED WE ARE ONE OF ONLY TWO CITIES

05:08:37 IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAS -- WE OWN AND OPERATE OUR

05:08:40 OWN WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT.

05:08:42 AND WITH THAT ENERGY WE ARE GOING TO USE FOR OUR TRUCKS

05:08:47 THAT WE USE IN SOLID WASTE.

05:08:49 SO WE ARE DOING A LOT OF THAT.




05:08:51 ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND KEEPING IT CLEAN.

05:08:55 WE JUST STARTED MAKING SURE THAT THOSE DON'T END UP IN

05:09:02 OUR BAY.

05:09:03 WE HAVE A TREE PROGRAM.

05:09:04 WE HAVE COMMUNITY GARDENS.

05:09:06 AND WE ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE WATER, MAKING SURE THAT

05:09:09 WE ARE SAVING WATER FOR THE FUTURE ENSURING THAT WE HAVE

05:09:15 CLEAN DRINKING WATER FOR ALL OF THE TAMPA BAY AREA.

05:09:18 SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE IDEAS.

05:09:20 AND PLEASE, PLEASE, KEEP THOSE COMING.

05:09:22 AND I THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR BRINGING YOU HERE.

05:09:28 I ALSO THANK SCOTT DUD ANY, AND THE FLORIDA CITY MAYORS,

05:09:37 AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INTEREST IN THIS.

05:09:39 THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, BRADY, FOR GIVING US ALL

05:09:44 OF THOSE GREAT IDEAS.

05:09:45 AND KEEP THOSE COMING BECAUSE ONE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO BE

05:09:47 RUNNING FOR MAYOR.

05:09:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

05:09:52 BRADY, IT'S YOUR TIME TO GIVE YOU YOUR ACT OH LATE.

05:09:55 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS PROUD TO HONOR BRADY COFFEY KELLER

05:10:02 FOR THE SECOND PLACE IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYOR.

05:10:05 IF I WERE MAYOR CONTEST ENCOURAGES YOUNG PEOPLE TO THINK

05:10:08 ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE AND FUTURE LEADERSHIP, ON THE ROLE

05:10:14 OF BEING THE MAYOR, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING THE

05:10:17 HIGHEST ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE CITY.




05:10:19 BRADY EXPRESSED WHAT HE WOULD DO TO IMPROVE THE CITY IF

05:10:23 HE WERE MAYOR.

05:10:24 LEADERS ARE ALWAYS PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, HAVE A

05:10:26 VISION, ROAD MAP AND GAME PLAN WHICH SPEAKS TO THE

05:10:29 STRENGTH AND THE GOALS OF THE FUTURE.

05:10:30 BRADY COFFEY KELLER IS CURRENTLY A LEADER WITH GREAT

05:10:34 ACHIEVEMENTS YET TO COME.

05:10:35 IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

05:10:38 PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 28th DAY OF JANUARY

05:10:42 2021.

05:10:43 THANK YOU, BRADY.

05:10:44 [ APPLAUSE ]

05:10:50 WE HAVE A COMMENDATION HERE.

05:10:52 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

05:10:54 >> BRADY COFFEY KELLER: THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE.

05:11:01 AND I AM JUST REALLY SURPRISED THAT I WON THIS.

05:11:09 I HONORED.

05:11:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

05:11:13 I SEE WE HAVE SCOTT DUDLEY ON THE VIRTUAL CALL.

05:11:16 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, SCOTT?

05:11:18 >> YES.

05:11:19 THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.

05:11:20 GOOD TO SEE YOU.

05:11:21 AND BRADY, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

05:11:24 I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF




05:11:26 MAYORS.

05:11:27 WE HAVE OVER 250 MAYORS FROM ACROSS THE STATE THAT ARE

05:11:31 MEMBERS OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS THAT GET TOGETHER

05:11:33 TO TALK ABOUT IDEAS LIKE THE ONES THAT YOU RAISED IN YOUR

05:11:36 PAPER, BRADY, THEY SHARE IDEAS, AND THINK ABOUT HOW TO

05:11:41 TACKLE PROBLEMS THAT CITIES ARE LOOKING AT ALL AROUND THE

05:11:44 STATE.

05:11:45 THEY SHARE THOSE IDEAS, AND THEY LIKE NEW IDEAS.

05:11:52 WE SHARED YOUR IDEAS WITH OTHER MAYORS ACROSS THE STATE,

05:11:55 AND I AM SURE I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE SOME OF YOUR

05:11:58 IDEAS GET IMPLEMENTED.

05:11:59 SO TO BE AT YOUR AGE AND THINKING SO GLOBALLY AND LOOKING

05:12:04 AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, IT'S GOOD TO SEE OUR YOUTH DOING

05:12:11 IT.

05:12:12 I HAVE A LOT MORE HOPE FOR THE FUTURE THAN I DID AS A

05:12:16 KID, AND SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING.

05:12:18 AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE

05:12:22 CONTEST, AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING A WINNER.

05:12:27 IT'S A REALLY GOOD ESSAY, AND THINKING AHEAD, AND I THINK

05:12:31 YOU ARE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS.

05:12:33 STAY FOCUSED, AND IF YOU EVER GET TO TALLAHASSEE, MAYBE

05:12:38 YOU ARE GOING TO PICK A GREAT COLLEGE AND COME TO FSU AND

05:12:41 HELP YOU WHEN YOU GET UP HERE.

05:12:43 COME BY AND SEE US AT LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND WE WOULD BE

05:12:46 HAPPY TO PUT YOU IN AN INTERNSHIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.




05:12:50 SO COME BY AND SEE US WHEN YOU GET OLDER AND GET INTO

05:12:52 COLLEGE AND KEEP YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES.

05:12:58 WE ARE WORKING HARD BUT IT WILL BE A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR

05:13:01 YOU.

05:13:02 AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU ALL DO.

05:13:05 GREAT PUBLIC SERVICE.

05:13:06 AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

05:13:07 >> THANK YOU.

05:13:16 WE HAVE A COLLEGIATE PROGRAM AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL.

05:13:18 >> CONGRATULATIONS.

05:13:20 THAT'S GREAT.

05:13:20 >> FOR THE FUTURE.

05:13:25 >> EXCELLENT.

05:13:26 WELL, GOOD LUCK.

05:13:28 GOOD LUCK.

05:13:29 YOU HAVE GOT A BRIGHT FOUGHT AHEAD OF YOU, MAN.

05:13:31 THAT'S GREAT.

05:13:32 >>MAYOR JANE CASTOR: THANKS, BRADY.

05:13:36 >> WE HAVE A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR $50 AND THEN A PLAQUE

05:13:40 WE ARE GOING TO MAIL TO YOU, A RESOLUTION BY THE LEAGUE

05:13:43 OF MAYORS, JUST BASICALLY RECOGNIZING YOUR ACHIEVEMENT

05:13:46 FOR WINNING THE AWARD, AND WE ARE REALLY PROUD OF YOU,

05:13:50 AND ENCOURAGE YOUR NEXT SET OF CLASSMATES COMING BEHIND

05:13:56 YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND TO STAY FOCUSED ON

05:14:00 IMPORTANT ISSUES.




05:14:00 >>BILL CARLSON: CONGRATULATIONS, AS THE MAYOR SAID.

05:14:10 WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN TAMPA TO RUN FOR MAYOR

05:14:14 OR SOME OTHER OFFICE IN THE FUTURE OR HELPING IN OTHER

05:14:17 WAYS.

05:14:17 AND THERE'S NO AGE THAT'S TOO EARLY, AS YOU KNOW.

05:14:20 AND I AM SURE YOU ARE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THINGS

05:14:23 ALREADY.

05:14:23 BUT IF ANY OF US CAN HELP, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.

05:14:28 BILL CARLSON AT TAMPAGOV.NET.

05:14:32 I ALSO RUN A POLICEMAN ON FRIDAYS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO

05:14:36 COME FOR FREE.

05:14:38 A FRIEND KEVIN O'HARE HAD 17, STARTED COMING TO EVENTS

05:14:42 LIKE THAT, HE WOULD SKIP SCHOOL, I THINK WENT TO PLANT

05:14:44 CITY HIGH SCHOOL AND BEGAN SKIPPING SCHOOL.

05:14:47 BUT NOW HE'S LIKE 22, I THINK HE JUST TURNED, BUT HE WAS

05:14:51 ONE OF THE LEADERS OF TRANSPORTATION GETTING CITY-WIDE,

05:14:54 COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION FUNDING, AND HE WAS JUST

05:14:57 RECENTLY GRASSROOTS LEGION IN PART OF HILLSBOROUGH FOR

05:15:02 PRESIDENT BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN AND HE'S MAKING LOTS OF

05:15:05 CHANGES IN LOTS OF WAYS AND JUST GRADUATED COLLEGE LAKE A

05:15:08 YEAR AGO.

05:15:08 SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET SMART, INTERESTED FOLKS LIKE YOU

05:15:12 INVOLVED, THE BETTER OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE, AND HOW WE

05:15:15 CAN HELP.

05:15:16 THANK YOU.




05:15:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.

05:15:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:15:19 THAT IS AWESOME.

05:15:22 WAS KEVIN SKIPPING SCHOOL TO GO TO -- AND I SAY THAT --

05:15:29 THAT'S AWESOME.

05:15:30 JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.

05:15:31 IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE SURPRISED THAT YOU

05:15:34 WON.

05:15:34 I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I WON MY FIRST RACE SO THAT MAKES

05:15:38 TWO OF US, RIGHT?

05:15:40 SO CONGRATULATIONS.

05:15:41 AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO JUST CONTINUE TO BE

05:15:44 INVOLVED, WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I GOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS

05:15:48 WHEN I WAS 18, I INTERNED IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IN THE

05:15:51 CAPITOL, THEN HOUSE MINORITY LEADER'S OFFICE, AND I HAVE

05:15:56 JUST ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED.

05:15:57 AND I THINK WHETHER YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT OR

05:16:00 WHATEVER, PUBLIC SERVICE CAN BE A VERY PATRIOTIC ENDEAVOR

05:16:04 TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY.

05:16:06 THE GREAT THING ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE IS YOU CAN TAKE

05:16:08 THOSE ISSUES THAT MATTER TO YOU BASED UPON YOUR LIVE

05:16:10 EXPERIENCES THAT YOU CAN BE ERNEST AND SINCERE AND

05:16:13 COMPASSIONATE ABOUT AND MAKE CHANGES ON THEM, THINGS THAT

05:16:16 YOU CARE ABOUT, THINGS THAT YOU BRING A UNIQUE

05:16:18 PERSPECTIVE TO.




05:16:19 I DON'T NEED -- BUT BRING A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE TO.

05:16:26 SO ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO TO HELP, JUST LET ME KNOW.

05:16:28 I MEAN THAT.

05:16:29 GOD BLESS YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.

05:16:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?

05:16:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, MY FRIEND.

05:16:37 YOU ARE TAKING THE FIRST STEP TO ACHIEVING YOUR GOAL.

05:16:40 WHAT I RECOMMEND TO YOU IS THE MOMENT YOU TURN 18, GET ON

05:16:44 A BOARD, GET ON A COMMISSION, GET ON SOME SORT OF ENTITY

05:16:50 OR BODY THAT MAKES IMPORTANT DECISIONS FOR THE CITY.

05:16:55 HONE YOUR SKILLS.

05:16:57 LEARN THE PROCESS.

05:16:58 AND MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

05:17:01 AND OUT OF DUE RESPECT FOR YOU FOR WINNING THIS AWARD,

05:17:04 LET ME BE THE FIRST ONE TO CALL YOU "MR. MAYOR."

05:17:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

05:17:11 WELL, CONGRATULATIONS TO KEVIN O'HARE THAT THEY

05:17:14 MENTIONED, COFFEE TOMORROW MORNING AT 7:30 AND I TOLD

05:17:18 HIM, I WISH I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED AT YOUR AGE OR

05:17:22 JUST AS YOUNG.

05:17:23 I DIDN'T GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS UNTIL I WAS 25 WHICH TO

05:17:26 SOME PEOPLE IS YOUNG, BUT I WISH I WOULD HAVE STARTED TEN

05:17:29 YEARS EARLIER OR MORE BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

05:17:31 THE FOUNDATION THAT YOU BEGIN BUILDING WILL REAP SO MANY

05:17:37 BENEFITS FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE.




05:17:38 SO CONGRATULATIONS.

05:17:39 YOU ARE DOING GOOD THINGS.

05:17:41 WE ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU AND THE MAYOR ON THE CALL IS

05:17:44 VERY PROUD OF YOU.

05:17:45 LIKE SHE SAID, SOON YOU WILL BE LEADING THE CITY.

05:17:48 SO THANK YOU FOR SETTING A GREAT EXAMPLE.

05:17:51 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

05:17:52 >> THANK YOU.

05:17:54 >>MAYOR JANE CASTOR: BRADY, CONGRATULATIONS.

05:17:59 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

05:17:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:18:00 [ APPLAUSE ]

05:18:04 ALL RIGHTY.

05:18:05 I SEE MR. SCHMID ON THE LINE.

05:18:09 ARE YOU HERE FOR THE MUTUAL AID WALK-ON?

05:18:11 >>MICHAEL SCHMID: OWES.

05:18:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

05:18:14 >>MICHAEL SCHMID: I HAVE A WALK ON FOR THE NEW AGREEMENT

05:18:23 THAT'S FIVE AGENCIES.

05:18:25 THEY ARE ORANGE COUNTY, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ORLANDO,

05:18:37 JACKSONVILLE, LARGO, AND SARASOTA SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

05:18:45 WE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THEM.

05:18:51 THEY ARE ALL PROVIDING ASSISTANCE.

05:18:53 AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THIS WALK-ON.

05:18:58 THEY NEEDED THIS ALL EXECUTED, SO WE ARE RESPECTFULLY




05:19:02 REQUESTING THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE APPROVED.

05:19:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

05:19:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.

05:19:09 I'M SORRY.

05:19:10 I MIGHT HAVE MISSED HIS COMMENT.

05:19:12 BUT THIS IS MOVING THE SUBSTITUTE.

05:19:14 IS THAT CORRECT?

05:19:14 THAT'S BEEN FILED WITH THE CLERK?

05:19:17 >>MICHAEL SCHMID: THAT IS CORRECT.

05:19:19 THE SUBSTITUTED ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED I THINK THIS

05:19:21 MORNING.

05:19:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE, SIR.

05:19:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

05:19:25 FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE CLERK IT CAN BE MOVED.

05:19:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

05:19:29 CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE?

05:19:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.

05:19:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

05:19:35 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

05:19:38 ANY OPPOSED?

05:19:40 ANYTHING ELSE, MR. SCHMID?

05:19:42 >>MICHAEL SCHMID: NO, SIR, THAT TAKES CARE OF IT.

05:19:45 THANK YOU ALL.

05:19:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:19:46 WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA.




05:19:49 A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING.

05:19:51 ITEM 6, 7 AND 14 ARE NOT GOING TO BE HEARD TONIGHT.

05:19:56 LET ME START WITH ITEM NUMBER 6.

05:20:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU COULD TAKE THOSE INDIVIDUALLY,

05:20:04 PLEASE.

05:20:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING.

05:20:06 ITEM NUMBER 6.

05:20:08 CANNOT BE HEARD.

05:20:11 THERE'S A PETITION TO WITHDRAW BY THE APPLICANT MR.

05:20:13 CASSIDY.

05:20:15 CAN I GET A MOTION TO WITHDRAW, COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS A

05:20:18 MOTION, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

05:20:20 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

05:20:22 ANY OPPOSED?

05:20:23 GREAT.

05:20:24 ITEM NUMBER 7 IS AN E-MAIL FROM MR. PATRICK THORPE, AS

05:20:31 REPRESENTATIVE, ALSO A PETITION TO WITHDRAW.

05:20:33 MOTION BY GUDES, SECOND BY CITRO.

05:20:35 ALL IN FAVOR?

05:20:36 GREAT.

05:20:36 THEN ITEM NUMBER 14.

05:20:46 APPLICANT DID NOT PERFECT NOTICE.

05:20:49 GUDES, CITRO.

05:20:50 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

05:20:51 ALL RIGHT.




05:20:55 THAT SETTLES THE AGENDA FOR THE CLEAN-UP AND THE

05:20:57 HOUSEKEEPING.

05:20:58 SO WE START OFF WITH -- CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE

05:21:04 PUBLIC HEARINGS?

05:21:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

05:21:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

05:21:11 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

05:21:12 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

05:21:14 ALL RIGHT.

05:21:14 ITEM NUMBER 2.

05:21:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF

05:21:19 THE CLERK CAN NOTICE, I MISSED A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

05:21:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE YOU LOGGED IN AT 5:15.

05:21:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

05:21:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 2.

05:21:38 >>JIM CREW: CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

05:21:46 WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS REGISTERED TO SPEAK OR THEIR

05:21:49 REPRESENTATIVE.

05:21:50 DAVID KILCOYNE IS ON THE MEETING.

05:21:54 TONY MARTINO HAS NOT SIGNED INTO THE MEETING.

05:21:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

05:22:10 WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 2?

05:22:13 I KNOW WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED INDIVIDUALS.

05:22:21 >>JIM CREW: IF YOU CAN TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND BE SWORN

05:22:25 IN.




05:22:26 NOT TO BE SWORN IN, BUT PLEASE TURN OWN YOUR CAMERA.

05:22:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. KILCOYNE, IF YOU WILL PLEASE

05:22:38 TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.

05:22:39 >> COUNCIL, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?

05:22:51 THIS IS PATRICK PEREZ, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I'M AN

05:22:57 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

05:22:59 WHILE MR. KILCOYNE IS SETTING UP, THIS IS A RESOLUTION

05:23:03 SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SPECIAL STREETLIGHT

05:23:07 ASSESSMENT.

05:23:10 AND MR. KILCOYNE IS THE APPLICANT.

05:23:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

05:23:28 MR. KILCOYNE AND MR. MARTINO ARE THE TWO APPLICANT'S

05:23:35 REPRESENTATIVES THAT I SEE HERE.

05:23:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT'S MERELY A

05:23:36 RESOLUTION, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED EVIDENCE,

05:23:39 ET CETERA.

05:23:39 MR. ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, IF NOT, I WILL MOVE THE

05:23:44 RESOLUTION.

05:23:44 >> YES, THIS IS CORRECT.

05:23:46 THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION TO SET THE HEARING.

05:23:49 IT WILL BE NOTICED IN THE PUBLIC FOR FOUR CONSECUTIVE

05:23:52 WEEKS SO IT WILL COME BACK ON FEBRUARY 28th.

05:23:57 WE DO NOT HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.

05:23:59 IT IS JUST A RESOLUTION SETTING THE HEARING.

05:24:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE THE RESOLUTION SETTING THE




05:24:02 HEARING FOR THE 28th.

05:24:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN

05:24:06 DINGFELDER.

05:24:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

05:24:08 ALL IN FAVOR?

05:24:10 AYE.

05:24:10 ANY OPPOSED?

05:24:12 GREAT.

05:24:14 ITEM NUMBER 3.

05:24:19 ITEM NUMBER 3.

05:24:19 I SEE WE HAVE A BRYAN SYKES THAT'S REGISTERED.

05:24:24 OKAY.

05:24:24 WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH THAT.

05:24:27 I SEE MS. MALONE ON THE LINE.

05:24:30 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

05:24:33 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.

05:24:55 CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN?

05:24:57 IT SHOULD SAY TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT

05:25:00 20-21.

05:25:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

05:25:02 GO AHEAD.

05:25:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SO THIS IS A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS

05:25:05 IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE

05:25:08 WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.

05:25:11 IT IS JUST WEST OF UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.




05:25:18 SOUTH KENNEDY -- OR KENNEDY BOULEVARD,.

05:25:24 AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THIS AREA HAS CHANGED

05:25:26 QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

05:25:29 IT IS A MIXTURE OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

05:25:35 TO THE NORTH WE ALSO HAVE THE RIVER AND THEN TAMPA

05:25:39 PREPARATORY SCHOOL AS WELL.

05:25:42 IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO GET PICTURES OF THIS SITE, BUT I'M

05:25:45 LOOKING INTO THE SITE, WEST CARMEN STREET AND ANOTHER

05:25:49 VIEW OF THE SITE FACING EAST TOWARDS UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.

05:25:52 WE DO SEE THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS.

05:25:54 AND THEN THIS IS NORTH EDISON AVENUE FACING SOUTH TOWARDS

05:25:57 THE SUBJECT SITE AND OF COURSE DOWNTOWN.

05:26:00 IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT.

05:26:03 IT IS SMALL SCALE AT ABOUT 3.87 ACRES.

05:26:06 THE SUBJECT SITE HAS THREE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, GENERAL

05:26:09 MIXED USE 24, URBAN MIXED USE 60, AND PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC.

05:26:19 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO URBAN MIXED USE 60.

05:26:23 IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL ON THIS MAP BECAUSE OF THE

05:26:26 BLACK BOUNDARY LINE BUT THE ENTIRE SITE WILL NOT CHANGE.

05:26:30 A SMALL PORTION OF THE SITE ON THE EASTERN EDGE WILL

05:26:33 REMAIN PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND WHERE

05:26:37 THE RAILROAD TRACKS ARE.

05:26:38 THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE WILL CHANGE -- WE HAVE THREE

05:26:42 LAND USE DESIGNATIONS IN THE AREA.

05:26:45 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT IT IS TAKEN TO ONE LAND




05:26:47 USE DESIGNATION OF URBAN MIXED USE 60.

05:26:51 SO URBAN MIXED USE 60 IS ALREADY PRESENT TO THE EAST OF

05:26:54 THE SUBJECTS SITE.

05:26:55 GENERAL MIXED USE 24 IS FURTHER EAST.

05:26:58 REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 TO THE NORTH.

05:27:00 THAT IS TAMPA PREPARATORY SCHOOL.

05:27:03 AND THEN WE SEE THAT PUBLIC LAND USE DESIGNATION

05:27:07 REPRESENTING UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.

05:27:08 JUST TO BE CLEAR, A PORTION OF THIS FOLIO WILL REMAIN

05:27:12 PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC, AND I AM SURE THE APPLICANT WILL

05:27:15 FURTHER ELABORATE ON THAT.

05:27:20 THERE IS AN INCREASED POTENTIAL OF ABOUT 130 UNITS TO

05:27:22 ABOUT 240 UNITS.

05:27:24 IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE INTENSITY FROM ABOUT 315,000

05:27:29 SQUARE FEET TO 570,000 SQUARE FEET.

05:27:36 IN THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, IT'S URBAN

05:27:37 MIXED USE 60.

05:27:38 THE APPLICANT CAN UTILIZE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER FOR

05:27:41 RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL OR MIXTURE.

05:27:43 ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS GOING TO AMEND THE ENTIRE SITE TO A

05:27:47 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO ALLOW FOR THIS

05:27:49 REDEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.

05:27:52 NOT ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC USE.

05:27:54 WE DO HAVE COMMENTS IN YOUR PACKET FROM THE METROPOLITAN

05:27:56 PLANNING BOARD, CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH




05:28:00 MANAGEMENT IS ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR COMMENTS, AND

05:28:05 THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD DID NOTE THAT A

05:28:07 COUPLE OF THE SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY, AND

05:28:10 THESE ARE ALL IN YOUR PACKET.

05:28:12 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE

05:28:15 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

05:28:17 I HAVE THE HISTORICAL AERIAL ON THE SLIDE RIGHT NOW.

05:28:26 THERE IS A LOT OF WIDTH TO ACCOMMODATE LOADING AND

05:28:30 UNLOADING AND INFRASTRUCTURE STORAGE.

05:28:32 BUT AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THIS AREA HAS SHIFTED TOWARDS

05:28:36 MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE.

05:28:37 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA HAS HAVE BEEN -- AND THAT SHIFT

05:28:42 IS SUPPORTED BY THE PLAN THAT SPEAKS TO BUILD UPON AND

05:28:45 SUPPORT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AS ONE OF THE CITY'S

05:28:48 ECONOMIC ENGINES.

05:28:51 THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL OF OUR POLICIES

05:28:54 REGARDING THE CITY'S STRATEGY.

05:28:58 WE ENCOURAGE IN-FILL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH EXISTING

05:29:02 TRANSIT, AND EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, THAT WILL PROVIDE

05:29:06 DEVELOPMENT LAND FOR HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING

05:29:11 POPULATION, AS WELL AS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICY

05:29:14 REGARDING NEW HOUSING ON VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED LAND.

05:29:21 THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT.

05:29:23 THE RESOLUTION IS IN YOUR PACKET.

05:29:25 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.




05:29:26 AND I WILL PASS IT ON TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THE CITY OF

05:29:30 TAMPA.

05:29:31 >> ANY QUESTIONS?

05:29:31 NO.

05:29:32 GO AHEAD.

05:29:32 >> THIS IS FRANK HALL WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.

05:29:37 THE CITY PLANNING -- CITY PLANNING HAS REVIEWED THE

05:29:40 REQUEST, AND WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS AT THIS TIME.

05:29:42 OUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE PACKETS: SO

05:29:46 UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL PASS THIS

05:29:49 ON TO MELANIE CALLOWAY.

05:29:51 SHE'S ON THE LINE TO REVIEW COMMENTS ON MOBILITY.

05:29:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

05:29:59 IF NOT WE GO TO MELANIE.

05:30:01 NO?

05:30:01 GO AHEAD, MELANIE.

05:30:05 YOU ARE MUTED.

05:30:05 YOU ARE MUTED.

05:30:08 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

05:30:09 >> GOOD.

05:30:16 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DELAYED.

05:30:19 SO IT MIGHT NOT PICK UP.

05:30:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD.

05:30:23 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, I HAD

05:30:26 COMMENTS IN THE PACKAGE BUT THEY HAVE CHANGED.




05:30:29 YOU WERE E-MAILED THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THIS MORNING

05:30:31 FROM ABBYE FEELEY.

05:30:34 I AM GOING DO SUMMARIZE MY COMMENTS FOR YOU JUST SO YOU

05:30:36 HAVE THEM.

05:30:37 SO FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION

05:30:40 PLANNING STAFF WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PRESERVE THE

05:30:43 RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG THE CSX RAIL CORRIDOR.

05:30:46 SPECIFICALLY REQUEST THE CORRIDOR FROM TRASK TO RAILROAD

05:30:50 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE INTERBAY AREA.

05:30:53 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY APPLICATIONS

05:30:57 IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THIS SUBJECT APPLICATION OVER

05:31:00 THE YEARS AND WERE DISCOURAGED FROM MOVING FORWARD OR TO

05:31:04 MAINTAIN ACCESS TO THE CSX RAILROAD CORRIDOR THERE.

05:31:09 WERE SEVERAL APPLICATION AS PROVED ALONG THIS CORRIDOR,

05:31:12 FUTURE COMMITMENT, A SIDEWALK ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE ON

05:31:16 THE EAST SIDE, THE RAIL CORRIDOR, MAINTAIN THAT ACCESS TO

05:31:20 THE CSX CORRIDOR.

05:31:22 THIS CORRIDOR IS CRITICAL FOR OUR FUTURE RAIL AND

05:31:24 MULTIMODAL NEEDS.

05:31:27 THE REGIONAL PLANNING EFFORT IS PROVIDED BY THE TAMPA BAY

05:31:31 REGIONAL AUTHORITY ALSO KNOWN AS TBARTA, 2030, THE FUTURE

05:31:38 OF TRANSIT IN TAMPA BAY, FIRST REGIONAL TRANSIT

05:31:42 DEVELOPMENT.

05:31:43 THE REGIONAL TRANSIT NETWORK MAP CLEARLY SHOWS THIS

05:31:46 CORRIDOR FOR FUTURE RAIL TRANSIT.




05:31:51 WITH THE CITY'S MOBILITY AND MULTIMODAL SYSTEM, THE

05:31:56 SUBJECT PROPERTY CAN HAVE SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON THE

05:31:58 OVERALL SYSTEM OF THE UNIQUE PLANNING OPPORTUNITIES WHICH

05:32:05 WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE TIME OF REZONING FOR THE

05:32:08 IMPLEMENTATION AND INCONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN

05:32:11 POLICIES THAT I HAVE FREUD IN MY MEMOS TO YOU EARLIER

05:32:15 TODAY FROM ABBYE FEELEY.

05:32:18 AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

05:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES?

05:32:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MELANIE, WAS THIS THE SITE THAT WAS

05:32:27 DESIGNATED AND THE CHANGES ARE CONSISTENT?

05:32:36 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YES.

05:32:36 YOU ARE CORRECT.

05:32:46 I'M SORRY.

05:32:51 LET ME BACK UP.

05:32:52 MY COMMENTS PREVIOUSLY WERE PROVIDED ON SEPTEMBER

05:32:54 15th OF 2020.

05:32:59 TO OUR STAFF AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION.

05:33:03 I WAS UNAWARE THAT MY COMMENTS WERE AT ISSUE UNTIL

05:33:06 JANUARY 19th, LAST WEEK.

05:33:10 WHEN THAT ISSUE THAT CAME UP, THERE HAS BEEN LONG

05:33:14 DISCUSSION IN THE PAST WEEK ABOUT MY COMMENTS, AND

05:33:19 THEREFORE THE COMMENTS HAVE CHANGED TO WHAT I PROVIDED TO

05:33:22 YOU TODAY.

05:33:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MUST BE MISSING THAT.




05:33:38 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: ABBYE FEELEY E-MAILED THEM EARLIER

05:33:41 THIS AFTERNOON.

05:33:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS AFTERNOON, YOU SAID?

05:33:51 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: YES.

05:33:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS?

05:34:06 NO?

05:34:07 ALL RIGHT.

05:34:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME LOOK AT IT A MINUTE.

05:34:09 I REMEMBER THIS VAGUELY.

05:34:11 OR I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY.

05:34:13 THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

05:34:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GO TO DINGFELDER AND THEN WE'LL

05:34:18 COME BACK TO YOU.

05:34:19 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

05:34:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCILMAN GUDES BRINGS UP A GOOD

05:34:26 QUESTION.

05:34:28 MS. CALLOWAY, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOUR JOB AT ANY RISK.

05:34:33 BUT DID YOUR OPINION CHANGE?

05:34:35 OR JUST THE LETTER FROM THE CITY CHANGED?

05:34:50 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: COUNCILMAN GUDES IS CORRECT, YOU ARE

05:34:52 PUTTING ME ON THE SPOT.

05:34:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOING TO SEND A MESSAGE REAL

05:34:55 LOUD AND CLEAR FROM NOW ON TO YOUR SUPERVISOR, OKAY?

05:35:00 IF YOUR SUPERVISORS WANT YOU TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION,

05:35:03 THEN THEY NEED TO COME DOWN HERE AND GIVE IT TO US




05:35:07 THEMSELVES.

05:35:07 THEY SHUNTS PUT PROFESSIONAL STAFF IN THE POSITION OF

05:35:11 HAVING TO CHANGE THEIR OPINION AND BEING UNCOMFORTABLE

05:35:19 WITH THIS VERY, VERY WELL QUALIFIED STAFF PERSON.

05:35:22 SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT DIRECTION CAME FROM BUT IT

05:35:27 OBVIOUSLY CAME FROM ABOVE, AND THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

05:35:30 I AM NOT SAYING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GIVE

05:35:32 THEIR OWN OPINION.

05:35:33 THEY CAN GIVE A DIFFERENT OPINION FROM THE CITY.

05:35:36 BUT THEY NEED TO COME DO IT THEMSELVES IF THAT'S WHAT

05:35:39 THEY INTEND TO DO.

05:35:40 THAT'S JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION AND MY HUMBLE STATEMENT AS

05:35:47 ONE CITY COUNCILMEN.

05:35:49 THANK YOU, MS. CALLOWAY.

05:35:51 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

05:35:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM INCLINED TO SEND THIS BACK AND

05:35:57 MAYBE GET AN EXPLANATION FROM THEIR SUPERIORS.

05:36:00 >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

05:36:05 YOU HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT YET.

05:36:06 THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS

05:36:11 PROPERLY BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

05:36:13 WITH RESPECT TO THE CHANGE AND THE COMMENTS FROM STAFF,

05:36:16 IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ABBYE FEELEY AND OTHER

05:36:20 REPRESENTATIVES IN THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY DEPARTMENT

05:36:25 FURTHER CLARIFY THE CITY'S POSITION AND COMMENTS, AND




05:36:31 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU INDICATED THAT THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY

05:36:33 FOUND INCONSISTENT.

05:36:36 JUST A CORRECTION.

05:36:37 THERE WERE PREVIOUSLY OBJECTIONS BY MS. CALLOWAY, BUT

05:36:41 THAT WAS NOT A FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY.

05:36:44 AND THE MEMORANDUM FAILED BY MS. FEELEY EARLIER TODAY

05:36:48 JUST FURTHER CLARIFIES THE CITY'S POSITION.

05:36:51 BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD FROM THE

05:36:54 APPLICANT YET.

05:36:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS

05:37:01 AND I DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

05:37:05 I THINK COUNCIL STILL HAS A RIGHT TO MAKE DECISIONS BUT I

05:37:08 DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

05:37:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

05:37:11 LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

05:37:13 WE HAVE MR. SYKES ON THE LINE.

05:37:15 IF YOU ARE MUTED, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

05:37:19 >> IT SHOULD BE UNMUTED. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY?

05:37:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

05:37:22 >> EXCELLENT.

05:37:23 BRYAN SYKES, LAW, HERE REPRESENTING APPLICANT IN THIS

05:37:27 MATTER.

05:37:29 SO TO START OFF WITH, MAYBE TO SET THE TABLE A LITTLE BIT

05:37:35 MORE STRONGLY SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, THIS PROPERTY

05:37:37 REPRESENTS EXCESS PROPERTY FOR CSX.




05:37:41 IN 2018, CSX FORMALLY PUT THE PROPERTY OUT AND STARTED

05:37:47 MARKETING IT FOR SALE.

05:37:50 MY CLIENT IN 2020, APPROXIMATELY, MAY OF 2020, PUT THE

05:37:55 PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT.

05:37:57 MY CLIENTS HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH CSX ON ANOTHER

05:38:01 TRANSACTION WITH THEM, AND SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO

05:38:06 DEVELOP A UNIQUE URBAN IN-FILL PROJECT WITHOUT DISPLACING

05:38:10 ANY OTHER TYPES OF USES.

05:38:13 YOUR STAFF HAS NOTED QUITE CORRECTLY THAT THIS AREA HAS

05:38:17 UNDERGONE A CHANGE, A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

05:38:19 MR. DINGFELDER AND I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION A FEW WEEKS

05:38:22 AGO, AND TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGE, BECAUSE HE WAS AROUND

05:38:25 WHEN I HAD ONE OF THE FIRST PRIVATELY INITIATED SMALL

05:38:28 SCALE AMENDMENTS TO THIS AREA WHICH STARTED OFF WITH A

05:38:34 PROJECT THAT TOOK OUT A BUNCH OF WAREHOUSE USES AND

05:38:37 INDUSTRIAL USES AND TURNED IT INTO MULTIFAMILY

05:38:40 OPPORTUNITIES, AND FOR-RENT PRODUCT AND FOR-SALE PRODUCT

05:38:44 AS WELL AND THINGS CONTINUED TO GROW IN THAT AREA TO

05:38:47 SUPPORT GROWTH AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL, SUPPORT GROWTH AS

05:38:50 FAR AS COMMERCIAL, AND THE AREA HAS TURNED INTO A UNIQUE

05:38:54 VIBRANT AREA.

05:38:56 MY CLIENT LISTED THIS PROPERTY AND SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO

05:39:00 DO A REALLY UNIQUE PROJECT, SOMETHING THAT I SAID WOULD

05:39:03 NOT DISPLACE OTHER TYPES OF USES BUT WOULD UTILIZE PLANS

05:39:06 THAT TODAY IS USED AS A DUMPING GROUND.




05:39:09 IF YOU WOULD WALK DOWN ALONGSIDE OF THE TRACKS, YOU WOULD

05:39:15 SEE MATTRESSES THERE, YOU WOULD SEE GARBAGE THERE.

05:39:17 IT'S SOMEWHAT OF AN EYESORE WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT AREA.

05:39:22 THE PROJECT ALSO IS UNIQUE AND ATTRACTIVE TO MY CLIENT IF

05:39:28 N THAT IT IS CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.

05:39:30 IT'S CLOSE TO UT.

05:39:32 IT'S GOING TO HAVE A HIGH WALKABILITY SCORE.

05:39:34 IT'S GOING TO HAVE A HIGH URBAN TRANSPORTATION SCORE.

05:39:36 WE ALL SEE THE SCOOTERS IN TOWN, VERY SIMPLE AND EASY TO

05:39:40 BE RIDING SCOOTERS TO AND FROM THE UNIVERSITY, TO WORK,

05:39:43 WHAT HAVE YOU AT THIS LOCATION.

05:39:46 SO THE SITE AS STAFF NOTED IS CURRENTLY HAS THREE

05:39:50 DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

05:39:52 GMU 24, UMU 60 AND PUBLIC QUASI-PUBLIC.

05:39:58 IF THE PQP DESIGNATION HAD NOT ENCROACHED INTO THE SITE

05:40:03 BY ABOUT 7 TO 10 FEET WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE BEFORE YOU

05:40:07 TODAY.

05:40:07 WE COULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH

05:40:09 WITH THE UMU 60 TO GMU 24.

05:40:12 HOWEVER BECAUSE OF THAT SMALL SLIVER, WE NEEDED TO COME

05:40:16 THROUGH WITH A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT, AND LET GOT THROUGH

05:40:21 AND MAKE EVERYTHING CONSISTENT, MAKE IT UMU 60.

05:40:24 THE ONE THING I WANTS TO MAKE VERY CLEAR, AND WANT

05:40:27 EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND, IS THAT THE RAILROAD IS NOT GOING

05:40:30 AWAY.




05:40:31 THE RAILROAD WILL REMAIN INTACT.

05:40:33 THE RAILROAD WILL BE THERE FOR FUTURE USE, WHETHER BY

05:40:37 CSX, WHETHER BY A JOINT USE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND

05:40:41 CSX, WHETHER BY A PRIVATE INITIATIVE FOR RAIL

05:40:48 TRANSPORTATION BUT THE RAILROAD WILL BE THERE.

05:40:51 WE ARE NOT PROPOSING NOR HAS CSX PROPOSED IN ANY

05:40:54 MANDATORY SHUT DOWN THE RAILROAD.

05:40:58 THAT IS AN IMPORTANT TRACK THAT RUNS DOWN TO SOUTH TAMPA,

05:41:01 RUNS THROUGH DOWNTOWN, AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING

05:41:04 TO HAPPEN.

05:41:05 THE DESIGN THAT MY CLIENT HAS COME UP WITH, ALTHOUGH WE

05:41:09 CANNOT GO INTO IT TODAY, WE WILL BE BRINGING IT UP DURING

05:41:11 THE REZONING PROCESS, IS A VERY UNIQUE DESIGN.

05:41:14 IT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE URBAN AREA.

05:41:20 THE CRUX OF OUR ARGUMENT TO THIS IS THAT IT IS A TRUE

05:41:24 IN-FILL PROJECT.

05:41:25 IT'S UTILIZING UNDERUTILIZED LAND TODAY IN A MANNER THAT

05:41:29 IS BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY.

05:41:31 IT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RIDERSHIP FOR THE PUBLIC

05:41:34 TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.

05:41:38 AND IT PROVIDES SOME HOUSING THAT WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO

05:41:41 THE UNIVERSITY.

05:41:42 WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE UNIVERSITY PLANS FOR

05:41:48 OVER THE RAILROAD FROM OUR PROJECT SITE OVER TO UT.

05:41:52 THAT WILL BE COMING UP.




05:41:53 WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT MORE LATER.

05:41:57 IT'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH LAND

05:42:01 THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED CURRENTLY.

05:42:04 AND WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD

05:42:08 TAKE AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE RAIL.

05:42:16 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD COUNCIL HAVE ANY.

05:42:20 >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

05:42:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.

05:42:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SYKES, GENERALLY SPEAKING --

05:42:40 PRETTY VOCAL ON INTENSIFYING DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE

05:42:42 KENNEDY CORRIDOR.

05:42:43 AND I THINK THIS WOULD PRETTY MUCH QUALIFY AS THE KENNEDY

05:42:47 CORRIDOR.

05:42:48 SO ESSENTIALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GREATER

05:42:54 INTENSITY FROM A PLAN AMENDMENT.

05:42:56 I KNOW WE ARE NOT IN THE DESIGNING PHASE RIGHT THIS

05:43:01 SECOND.

05:43:02 BUT I DO NOTE THAT ONE OF MS. CALLOWAY'S COMMENTS FROM

05:43:09 EARLIER, MAYBE THIS ONE AS WELL, SPOKE TO THE IMPORTANCE

05:43:14 OF CROSS ACCESS OF GETTING TO THOSE TRACKS, THE COMMUNITY

05:43:20 BEING ABLE TO GET TO THOSE TRACKS.

05:43:22 SO AGAIN, I KNOW WE ARE NOT IN A PD STAGE, AND I KNOW YOU

05:43:26 DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN IN FRONTS OF US, BUT EVENTUALLY

05:43:29 YOU WILL, I ASSUME.

05:43:32 AND I HOPE THAT WHEN THAT DAY COMES THAT YOUR CLIENT WILL




05:43:37 BE VERY, VERY SENSITIVE TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LOCATION

05:43:46 THAT THIS PROPERTY IS AT, AS RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY'S

05:43:50 ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET TO THE TRACKS FOR WHATEVER

05:43:54 THAT MEANS.

05:43:54 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

05:43:56 BUT OBVIOUSLY OUR TRANSPORTATION FOLKS HAVE BEEN TRYING

05:44:01 TO PRESERVE THAT ACCESS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

05:44:05 ANYWAY, THAT'S MY PIECE ON IT.

05:44:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SYKES, YOU WERE GOING TO SAY

05:44:12 SOMETHING?

05:44:13 >> I JUST SAID "UNDERSTOOD."

05:44:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BECAUSE THIS IS TALKING ABOUT LAND USE

05:44:18 AND NOT WHAT IS GOING TO BE GOING THERE, I WON'T HAVE MS.

05:44:22 WELLS RAISE YOUR HAND IN OBJECTION.

05:44:24 HOWEVER, I AM GOING TO MAKE THE SAME TYPE OF STATEMENT

05:44:27 THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS.

05:44:30 SINCE THIS REQUEST IS BASED ON A MULTIMODAL SYSTEM, I AM

05:44:34 HOPING THAT IN THE FUTURE YOU ARE GOING TO COME TO US

05:44:36 WITH SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO ACTUALLY USE THESE

05:44:40 RAILROAD TRACKS AND BE ABLE TO MAKE IT SO THESE TRACKS

05:44:46 WILL BE READILY USED AND AVAILABLE TO THE PEOPLE WHICH

05:44:48 MIGHT BE LIVING OR WORKING IN THIS PROPOSED SITE.

05:44:52 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

05:44:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:44:54 ANYBODY ELSE?




05:44:56 GREAT.

05:44:56 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

05:44:59 ITEM NUMBER 3?

05:45:00 AND JUST TO CLARIFY THE RECORD, I KNOW I MADE THIS

05:45:03 MOTION, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN ITEM 3 THROUGH 5?

05:45:07 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

05:45:09 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

05:45:10 ALL IN FAVOR?

05:45:11 JUST SO I KEEP IT CLEAR.

05:45:13 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK,

05:45:15 ANYBODY IN PERSON, DOWN BELOW?

05:45:30 IS THERE ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE ROOM HERE TO SPEAK IN

05:45:32 PERSON?

05:45:34 I KNOW THERE'S NOT, BUT I HAVE TO ASK.

05:45:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOON RESPONSE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

05:45:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY GUDES, SECOND BY CITRO.

05:45:49 ALL IN FAVOR?

05:45:50 WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.

05:45:51 COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING IT?

05:45:54 >>LUIS VIERA: CERTAINLY, MR. CHAIR.

05:45:59 I PRESENT AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,

05:46:02 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA

05:46:07 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND

05:46:10 USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED WEST OF THE UNIVERSITY

05:46:12 OF TAMPA, SOUTH OF WEST CASS STREET AND EAST OF NORTH




05:46:16 WILLOW STREET, FROM URBAN MIXED USE 60 UMU 60, GENERAL

05:46:21 MIXED USE 24, GMU 24, AND PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC, P/SP TO

05:46:27 URBAN MIXED USE 60, UMU 60, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

05:46:32 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,

05:46:35 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

05:46:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

05:46:40 ROLL CALL.

05:46:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

05:46:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:

05:46:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

05:46:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

05:46:48 >>BILL CARLSON:

05:46:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

05:46:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES VOTING NO.

05:46:53 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

05:46:54 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4 AT

05:46:57 9:30 A.M.

05:47:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.

05:47:01 ITEM NUMBER 4.

05:47:02 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

05:47:08 I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

05:47:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN SEE IT.

05:47:12 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GREAT.

05:47:13 THIS IS TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 20-04.

05:47:19 THIS WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC




05:47:22 OPPORTUNITY BY MOTION OF COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 1st,

05:47:27 20-04, AND THEY HAD NO COMMENTS ON THIS PROPOSAL.

05:47:37 BEAR WITH ME.

05:47:41 MY POWER POINT ISN'T LETTING ME SEA IT.

05:47:46 THIS WAS JUST DELETING AN OBJECTIVE POLICY AND UPDATING.

05:47:57 >> ALL RIGHT.

05:47:58 CITY OF TAMPA?

05:47:59 >> MIKE HALL WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.

05:48:03 CITY PLANNING HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND WE HAVE NO

05:48:06 OBJECTIONS AT THIS TIME.

05:48:08 COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKETS.

05:48:09 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THIS

05:48:11 TIME.

05:48:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:48:13 ANY QUESTIONS?

05:48:18 THERE IS NO APPLICANT ON THIS.

05:48:19 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?

05:48:26 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

05:48:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:48:29 AND WE CHECKED BELOW AND THERE'S NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THIS

05:48:32 ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 4.

05:48:33 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

05:48:36 GUDES, CITRO.

05:48:37 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

05:48:38 ANY OPPOSED?




05:48:38 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 4?

05:48:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE CA/TPA 20-04, BEING PRESENTED FOR

05:48:49 FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE

05:48:51 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE

05:48:55 ELEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY LAND USE GOAL 11, REMOVING LAND

05:49:02 USE OBJECTIVE 11.3, RENUMBERING THE OBJECTIVES

05:49:07 IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THEREAFTER, AND MOD PAYING POLICY

05:49:10 LANGUAGE DIRECTING THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO FOCUS

05:49:12 ON NEIGHBORHOOD CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG AND DRUG

05:49:14 ACTIVITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN

05:49:17 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN

05:49:20 EFFECTIVE DATE.

05:49:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE.

05:49:26 THERE'S SOMEONE STANDING AT THE PODIUM.

05:49:28 ARE YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

05:49:29 >> THERE'S NO ONE HERE.

05:49:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, ALL RIGHT.

05:49:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:49:41 GREAT.

05:49:41 COUNCILMAN CITRO MADE THE MOTION.

05:49:43 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

05:49:45 ROLL CALL VOTE.

05:49:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

05:49:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

05:49:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.




05:49:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

05:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:

05:49:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

05:49:58 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

05:50:02 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4 AT

05:50:05 9:30 A.M.

05:50:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:50:08 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 5.

05:50:09 JENNIFER MALONE.

05:50:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

05:50:15 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS A AMENDMENT 20-12, WILLIAMS PARK.

05:50:21 THIS WAS ABOUT 10.66 ACRES, OVER THAT 10-ACRE THRESHOLD

05:50:26 SO WE MUST TRANSMIT IT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC

05:50:27 OPPORTUNITY WHICH TO DO ON SEPTEMBER 24th.

05:50:32 20-03 IS THE NUMBER OF THIS AMENDMENT AND THEY HAVE SOME

05:50:37 COMMENTS.

05:50:38 JUST TO REFRESH YOU, THIS IS WHERE IT IS LOCATED, JUST

05:50:41 SOUTH OF THE SCHOOL, EAST OF CONCORDIA STREET. THE

05:50:45 REQUEST IS FROM RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, AND LIGHT

05:50:48 INDUSTRIAL, TO THE RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.

05:50:52 AND WE FOUND IT CONSISTENT AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

05:50:54 TONIGHT.

05:50:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

05:50:56 CITY OF TAMPA?

05:50:56 >> FRANK HALL WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.




05:51:00 CITY PLANNING HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND WE HAVE NO

05:51:02 OBJECTIONS AT THIS TIME.

05:51:04 OUR COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKETS.

05:51:07 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU

05:51:10 NEED ME.

05:51:11 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:51:11 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

05:51:14 NO?

05:51:15 ALL RIGHT.

05:51:15 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

05:51:17 ITEM NUMBER 5?

05:51:18 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS

05:51:21 ITEM.

05:51:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC DOWN BELOW?

05:51:25 I KNOW THE ANSWER BUT GOT TO ASK.

05:51:33 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

05:51:35 MOSS TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

05:51:39 CITRO.

05:51:40 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 5?

05:51:43 >> ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN

05:51:49 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

05:51:51 PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE

05:51:54 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4362 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE AND

05:51:58 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS WILLIAMS PARK FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LI

05:52:01 AND RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE




05:52:06 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT

05:52:09 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

05:52:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

05:52:12 ROLL CALL VOTE.

05:52:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

05:52:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

05:52:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

05:52:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

05:52:22 >>BILL CARLSON:

05:52:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

05:52:25 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

05:52:27 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

05:52:29 AT 9:30 A.M.

05:52:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:52:32 IT'S 5:52.

05:52:33 WE CAN'T START THE REST OF THE HEARINGS UNTIL 6:00.

05:52:36 SO LET'S GO TO NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

05:52:39 IS THAT OKAY IF IT'S NOT TOO EARLY SO WE CAN GET IT OUT

05:52:42 OF THE WAY?

05:52:43 COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS?

05:52:47 >>LUIS VIERA: NO, SIR.

05:52:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING.

05:52:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

05:52:52 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

05:52:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.




05:52:56 SO EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, ON NEW BUSINESS, I MADE A

05:53:01 MOTION TO PASS UNANIMOUSLY IN REGARDS TO CHAPTER 7 THAT

05:53:09 LIMITS US TO ONLY DOING LAND USE ZONING AMENDMENTS TWICE

05:53:16 A YEAR. LEGAL STAFF ASKED FOR A CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

05:53:21 SO I WANTED TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION.

05:53:26 SPECIFICALLY I AM GOING TO AMEND MY EARLIER MOTION AND

05:53:29 RESTATE IT WITH MORE SPECIFICITY.

05:53:32 AND MR. SHELBY, YOU SAID THAT WAS AMENDING 27-151, IS

05:53:37 THAT CORRECT?

05:53:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE SO.

05:53:38 AND MS. WELLS IS ALSO ON LINE, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MS.

05:53:41 WELLS, THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD.

05:53:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'LL CLARIFY IT AND THEN IF SHE

05:53:48 WANTS TO ASK A QUESTION SHE CAN.

05:53:50 SPECIFICALLY, TO AMEND CHAPTER 27-151 TO PROVIDE CITY

05:53:55 COUNCIL WITH THE ABILITY, WITH THE ABILITY TO VISIT

05:54:01 CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENTS, I BELIEVE QUARTERLY, OR LET'S SAY

05:54:09 QUARTERLY IF IT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL.

05:54:15 AND IF STAFF WANTS TO CONTINUES TO DO SEMIANNUAL UPDATES

05:54:26 THAT'S FINE.

05:54:27 WE CAN LEAVE THOSE ALONE.

05:54:28 BUT IF THE NEED BE, IF THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR SOME OTHER

05:54:32 ISSUE COMES UP THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO AMEND, THEN WE HAVE

05:54:36 THE ABILITY TO DO THAT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, OR MORE

05:54:39 FREQUENTLY THAN WHAT WE PROVIDE RIGHT NOW.




05:54:48 THAT'S AN OFFICIAL AMENDED MOTION FROM MY EARLIER MOTION.

05:54:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

05:54:54 ALL IN FAVOR?

05:54:55 AYE.

05:54:56 ANY OPPOSED?

05:54:58 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

05:55:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.

05:55:01 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

05:55:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S 5:55.

05:55:04 WE HAVE TO WAIT FIVE MINUTES.

05:55:05 SO WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 6:00.

05:55:07 I WISH I COULD SAY WE ARE ADJOURNED, BUT, YOU KNOW.

05:55:11 [SOUNDING GAVEL]

05:55:13 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).

05:55:19

05:55:19

05:55:19 >>> GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK.

06:04:20 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

06:04:21 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

06:04:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

06:04:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

06:04:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

06:04:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

06:04:36 ALL RIGHT.

06:04:37 JUST TO BE SAFE, LET'S OPEN ITEMS -- WE ALREADY DID IT




06:04:43 BUT ITEMS NUMBER 6 THROUGH 15.

06:04:48 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

06:04:50 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

06:04:53 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:04:54 ALL RIGHT.

06:04:55 ITEM NUMBER 8.

06:04:57 IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL

06:05:00 SWEAR YOU IN.

06:05:13 MR. CREW?

06:05:14 OH, THERE WE ARE.

06:05:15 >> ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

06:05:19 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

06:05:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

06:05:27 I SEE MR. FERNANDEZ ON THE LINE.

06:05:29 WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THIS ITEM?

06:05:31 >> THIS IS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S

06:05:40 OFFICE, THIS IS BEFORE YOU AS A REVIEW OF THE ARCHITECT

06:05:44 ACTUAL REVIEW DECISION MADE DURING ITS MEETING THAT

06:05:46 OCCURRED OPENING OCTOBER 5 OF 2020.

06:05:50 I PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED LEGAL COUNCIL, MR. SHELBY, A COPY

06:05:56 OF SAMPLE MOTIONS, AND IN THE TAMPA MOTION YOU WILL FIND

06:06:01 THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAT'S SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION

06:06:05 27-114 SUBSECTION D.

06:06:09 PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J, SECTION 2, CITY

06:06:16 COUNCIL FIND A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW.




06:06:19 YOUR DECISION IS NOT LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW TO THAT

06:06:23 INFORMATION, DOCUMENTATION OR EVIDENCE THAT UPON WHICH

06:06:28 THE COMMISSION BASED ITS DETERMINATION.

06:06:30 INSTEAD YOU CAN TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, ACCEPT NEW

06:06:33 EVIDENCE, AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE APPLICATION,

06:06:37 THE APPLICANT MEETING THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA SET FORTH IN

06:06:40 SECTION 27-114 SUBSECTION B.

06:06:45 THE MATERIALS THAT WERE INCLUDED FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM

06:06:49 WERE A COPY OF THE INITIAL APPLICATION FOR THE VARIANCE,

06:06:53 THE STAFF REPORT, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION'S

06:06:58 WRITTEN DECISION, THE PETITION FOR REVIEW, AND THE

06:07:01 AFFIDAVIT ESTABLISHING COMPLIANT WITH THE NOTICE

06:07:04 REQUIREMENT.

06:07:06 THE APPLICATION FILED WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW

06:07:10 COMMISSION REQUESTED A VARIANCE FOR THE NORTH SIDE YARD

06:07:14 SETBACK FROM 7 FEET TO 5 FEET, WITH AN ENCROACHMENT OF 2

06:07:19 FEET FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS.

06:07:22 AS REVIEWING SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J-2-A, AFTER

06:07:29 CONSIDERING ALL THE EVIDENCE INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD,

06:07:33 AT THIS EVENING'S HEARING, CITY COUNCIL MAY AFFIRM THE

06:07:36 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW'S DECISION TO DENY THE VARIANCE,

06:07:41 COUNCIL MAY OVERTURN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW

06:07:43 COMMISSION'S DECISION AND APPROVE THE VARIANCE WITH OR

06:07:47 WITHOUT CONDITIONS, OR COUNCIL MAY REMAND THIS ITEM BACK

06:07:52 TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.




06:07:56 YOU WILL NOW HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY DENNIS

06:07:59 FERNANDEZ WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

06:08:01 AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU MAY HAVE

06:08:03 THEM.

06:08:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

06:08:07 NO?

06:08:07 ALL RIGHT.

06:08:08 NEXT.

06:08:11 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC

06:08:13 PRESERVATION MANAGER.

06:08:15 TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION, THE

06:08:19 PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 613 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE WHICH IS

06:08:23 THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND AN APPLICATION

06:08:28 WAS SUBMITTED ON -- 15th OF 2020 TO CONDUCT WORK ON

06:08:36 THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND ON AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

06:08:42 THE HEARING WAS SCHEDULED AFTER THE NOTICE WAS PERFECTED,

06:08:46 AND OCCURRED ON AUGUST 3rd OF 2020 FOR THE FIRST

06:08:52 HEARING, AND WHICH THE REQUEST FOR THE ACCESSORY

06:08:58 STRUCTURE TO DEMOLISH AND REBUILD WAS GRANTED.

06:09:00 THERE WERE NO VARIANCES ATTACHED TO THAT REQUEST.

06:09:03 AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.

06:09:07 AT THE END OF THAT PARTICULAR HEARING AFTER GOING THROUGH

06:09:10 A VARIANCE DISCUSSION, THE APPLICANT ASKED TO CONTINUE

06:09:16 THEIR VARIANCE REQUEST.

06:09:18 IT WAS ON THE SEPTEMBER 14th, 2020 ARC PUBLIC HEARING




06:09:23 AGENDA, AT WHICH TIME THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THEIR

06:09:29 VARIANCE HARDSHIPS, DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.

06:09:32 HOWEVER, THE VOTE TO DENY THE VARIANCE TIDE WITH A 2-2

06:09:39 VOTE, WHICH THROUGH THE RECALLS OF PROCEDURE ENTAILED AN

06:09:43 AUTOMATIC CONTINUANCE TO THE NEXT HEARING.

06:09:47 THAT HEARING OCCURRING ON OCTOBER 5 OF 2020.

06:09:51 THE VARIANCE REQUEST AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME FOR A NORTH

06:09:55 SIDE YARD VARIANCE FROM 17 FEET TO 5 FEET WITH AN

06:10:00 ENCROACHMENT OF 2 FEET FOR EAVES AND GUTTERS WAS DENIED

06:10:03 BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 2.

06:10:08 IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN FOR A MINUTE, I WILL GIVE YOU A

06:10:11 PHOTO OVERVIEW.

06:10:32 CAN YOU SEE IT?

06:10:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

06:10:35 GO AHEAD.

06:10:40 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: ON THE SCREEN THERE IS A MAP OF THE

06:10:41 HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

06:10:43 IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT IN THIS BOX IS WHERE

06:10:46 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

06:10:49 JUST NORTH OF SWANN AVENUE ON OREGON, AND JUST NORTH OF

06:10:55 THE HYDE PARK VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT.

06:11:04 THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT MORE

06:11:07 CLEAR.

06:11:07 YOU CAN SEE OREGON WHERE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON

06:11:12 THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT.




06:11:17 THERE IS AN ALLEY THAT RUNS A WRONG THE REAR.

06:11:22 THERE'S A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, VERY NICE STYLE HOME,

06:11:25 IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

06:11:29 EAST ELEVATION.

06:11:32 MOVING AROUND, THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION THAT ABUTS THE

06:11:36 COMMERCIAL.

06:11:37 I WILL SHOW YOU A PHOTO OF THAT IN A MOMENT.

06:11:42 IT'S DIFFICULT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE NORTH ELEVATION,

06:11:45 BUT THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE REAR ADDITION, THE

06:11:51 VARIANCE.

06:11:52 I WILL SHOW YOU A CLOSER PHOTO OF THAT.

06:11:54 IT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

06:11:56 IN THIS GENERAL AREA HERE FROM THE SIDE YARD.

06:12:00 THIS RS-60 ZONING THERE'S A 7-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK

06:12:04 THAT'S REQUIRED, AND ONCE AGAIN THE REQUEST WAS TO

06:12:07 ENCROACH INTO THAT BY TWO FEET.

06:12:10 THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SAME AREA, THE REAR AND THE SIDE

06:12:15 YARD ON THE SOUTH.

06:12:18 THIS IS A PHOTO FROM THE ALLEY WITH THE ACCESSORY

06:12:24 STRUCTURE THAT WAS APPROVED IN A PRIOR HEARING.

06:12:29 THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT ABUTS TO THE NORTH.

06:12:35 THIS IS FROM THE ALLEY.

06:12:37 THE PROPERTY THAT ABUTS TO THE SOUTH.

06:12:41 THIS IS THE REAR AS I SAID OF THE HYDE PARK VILLAGE.

06:12:47 THIS IS A VIEW ALONG OREGON.




06:12:51 YOU SEE THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE ON THE RIGHT.

06:12:54 AND TURN IT AROUND AND LOOKING NORTH.

06:12:57 ANOTHER VIEW ON OREGON.

06:13:05 AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE AREA IN QUESTION FOR THE

06:13:08 VARIANCE WAS THIS SMALL BUMP-OUT, REDUCING THE SIDE YARD

06:13:13 SETBACK FROM 7 TO 5.

06:13:16 AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

06:13:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY

06:13:20 COUNCIL MEMBERS?

06:13:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YES, SIR.

06:13:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WE WILL HERE FROM MR. GRANDOFF,

06:13:31 BUT THE LITTLE BUMP-OUT THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING TO, HOW

06:13:35 MANY SQUARE FEET IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED

06:13:40 EXPANSION?

06:13:40 IT LOOKS PRETTY SMALL.

06:13:42 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I BELIEVE IT'S 22 SQUARE FEET.

06:13:47 MR. GRANDOFF WOULD KNOW THAT.

06:13:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECONDLY, I KNOW WE DON'T MAKE OUR

06:13:52 DECISIONS SOLELY ON THIS BASIS, HAVING SERVED ON THESE

06:13:58 TYPES OF BOARD BEFORE, VRB, ET CETERA,

06:14:01 BUT THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS THE IMPACT,

06:14:04 DIRECTLY IMPACTED NEIGHBOR, DID THEY APPROVE?

06:14:09 DID THEY OBJECT?

06:14:10 DID THEY ABSTAIN?

06:14:13 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THEY DID PUT A LETTER INTO THE ARC




06:14:17 RECORD ON JULY 18th FROM ELIZABETH McELANEY, IF I

06:14:29 SAY THAT CORRECT, ABUTTING PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

06:14:32 SHE SAID SHE HAD NO OBJECTION.

06:14:33 AFTER THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING GARAGE, NEW

06:14:36 CONSTRUCTION, OR THE VARIANCE THAT WAS BEING REQUESTED.

06:14:39 AND SHE SIGNED THAT LETTER.

06:14:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WASN'T AWARE OF THE DEMOLITION

06:14:47 PERMIT.

06:14:47 SO THAT GARAGE GOES AWAY?

06:14:49 ARE THEY REPLACING IT WITH A NEW GARAGE?

06:14:54 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: SOMEWHAT OF A SEPARATE DID.

06:14:56 AND WITHIN THE SAME APPLICATION, THE ARC HAD APPROVED THE

06:15:00 DEMOLITION OF THIS ONE-STORY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND IT

06:15:03 WAS APPROVED, A REPLACEMENT STRUCTURE, THE ITEMS DEALING

06:15:11 WITH THE ACCESSORY BUILDING WERE RESOLVED.

06:15:16 THE OUTSTANDING ITEM STILL WAS A VARIANCE AND A SMALL

06:15:20 ADDITION ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

06:15:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

06:15:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

06:15:28 HEARING NONE WE'LL GO TO THE PETITIONER, MR. GRANDOFF.

06:15:31 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: GOOD EVENING.

06:15:36 MR. CHAIRMAN, MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.

06:15:40 MY ADDRESS IS SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA, AND I AM

06:15:44 JOINED THIS EVENING BY JAIME MAIER, AN ASSOCIATE IN OUR

06:15:49 OFFICE, AND SHE'S GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.




06:15:51 I COMPLIMENT MR. FERNANDEZ ON HIS VERY DETAILED SUMMARY

06:15:54 TO YOU ON THE ESSENCE OF THE MATTER BEFORE YOU THIS

06:15:58 EVENING.

06:15:59 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU REVERSE AND APPROVE THIS

06:16:03 VARIANCE.

06:16:04 I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE JAIME NOW.

06:16:07 SHE'LL PRESENT THE APPEAL CASE TO YOU.

06:16:09 THANK YOU.

06:16:09 >>JAIME MAIER: GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN.

06:16:15 JAIME MAIER FOR THE APPLICANT, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD

06:16:18 SUITE 3700 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

06:16:20 I AM GOING TO USE THE ELMO.

06:16:22 I DON'T KNOW IF IT AUTOMATICALLY TURNS ON.

06:16:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S AUTOMATICALLY.

06:16:25 JUST PLACE THE ITEM AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

06:16:30 >>JAIME MAIER: PERFECT.

06:16:31 SO AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTION, ACTUALLY THAT WAS

06:16:35 MY OPENING STATEMENT.

06:16:36 WE ARE ASKING FOR 47 SQUARE FEET.

06:16:38 THAT'S THE NATURE OF THIS REQUEST.

06:16:40 THE APPLICANT MS. CINDY SMANEY LIVES IN THIS HOME, SHE

06:16:47 LOVES LIVING IN HYDE PARK, IT'S HER HOMESTEAD BUT THE

06:16:50 HOME WAS BUILT IN 1921 AND OF COURSE THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT

06:16:53 IT COULD NOT SEE WHAT IS STANDARD MODERN BASIC QUALITIES

06:16:56 OF LIFE, ELEMENTS OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND FRANKLY




06:16:59 MANY APARTMENTS AND THAT IS A LAUNDRY ROOM.

06:17:02 CURRENTLY MS. SMANEY HAS A WASHER AND DRYER THAT ARE

06:17:06 CRAMMED INTO A PANTRY IN THE KITCHEN.

06:17:07 THE FLOOR IS UNEVEN THERE.

06:17:09 SO THE MACHINES SHAKE AND RATTLE VIOLENTLY WHEN USED SO

06:17:14 IT'S NOT A LAUNDRY ROOM BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINE AND

06:17:17 IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY SAFE AND THIS IS ESPECIALLY

06:17:19 CONCERNING BECAUSE MS. SMANEY'S 80-YEAR-OLD MOTHER LIVES

06:17:24 WITH HER HALF A YEAR EVERY YEAR.

06:17:27 SO THE PLUMBING FOR WASHER AND DRIER IS ALREADY THERE OF

06:17:29 COURSE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SITE PLAN THAT MR.

06:17:32 FERNANDEZ SHOWED, THERE IS SPACE ON THE EXTERIOR WALL TO

06:17:35 CREATE A BUMP-OUT JUST BIG ENOUGH TO UNSTACK THE WASHER

06:17:38 AND DRIER, WALK IN, TURN AROUND, FOLLOWED CLOTHES.

06:17:41 YES, IT WILL STILL BE IN HER KITCHEN BUT GREATLY IMPROVE

06:17:45 HER QUALITY OF LIFE.

06:17:46 SO WE ASK FOR THE VARIANCE, A TOTAL DIFFERENCE OF TWO

06:17:49 FEET.

06:17:50 AND AS WAS STATED EARLIER, THE NEIGHBOR MS. MICHELINI,

06:17:56 BETSY, IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST BUT AS YOU SEE,

06:17:59 THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT 6 FOOT OPAQUE WOODEN FENCE THAT

06:18:02 SEPARATES THE TWO PROPERTIES.

06:18:03 SO REALLY SHE WON'T SEE MUCH OF THE ADDITION AT ANYWAY

06:18:07 EVEN THOUGH SHE'S IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.

06:18:09 AND NEIGHBORS AND ANYBODY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA IN THE




06:18:11 RIGHT-OF-WAY WON'T REALLY SEE MUCH OF IT EITHER BECAUSE

06:18:13 THE SAME 6-FOOT OPAQUE WOODEN FENCE BUFFERS THE ENTIRE

06:18:17 BACKYARD.

06:18:22 SO THE ARC DENIED THE VARIANCE ON THE GROUND THAT THE

06:18:25 APPLICANT HAD NOT SHOWN CONSISTENCY WITH THE VARIANCE

06:18:29 CRITERIA, AND ONE OF THE CRITERIA THEY SPECIFICALLY

06:18:32 CALLED OUT WAS THE HARDSHIP WAS SELF-CREATED, WHICH I

06:18:35 WILL GO INTO LATER.

06:18:36 HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS HOW MUCH EVIDENCE WE PUT

06:18:39 FORTH, PHOTOS, SITE PLAN, ELEVATION, NARRATIVE, FLOOR

06:18:44 PLANS.

06:18:44 WE WATCHED THE COMMISSIONERS DO EVERYTHING AND WE FULLY

06:18:48 BELIEVED THAT WE SUBMITTED EVIDENCE THAT SHOWED WE DO

06:18:51 MEET ALL OF THESE CRITERIA.

06:18:54 IN FACT, WE COULD HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE IN THE

06:18:56 RECORD BEFORE YOU TONIGHT BUT WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANYTHING

06:18:58 OTHER WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY SHOWN TAMPA ARC BECAUSE WE

06:19:00 THINK IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

06:19:02 MANY -- SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO DENIED THIS

06:19:05 VARIANCE SAID, WELL, SURELY THERE'S SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE

06:19:09 HOUSE THAT IT CAN GO BUT THOSE OF US AGREED THAT WE WERE

06:19:13 SHOWING, THERE ISN'T.

06:19:14 WE HAD GONE EVERY POSSIBILITY AND I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH

06:19:16 THOSE ALTERNATIVES THAT SIMPLY WILL NOT WORK.

06:19:20 SO HERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN.




06:19:23 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LAYOUT, THE HISTORIC FLOW OF THE HOME

06:19:27 IS FROM THE ENTRY IS HERE.

06:19:29 AND A STRAIGHT SHOT THROUGH TO THE BACK HERE.

06:19:32 AND THIS IS WHERE THE PORCH IS.

06:19:33 THE WASHER AND DRIER IS IN A PANTRY, AND THIS IS THE

06:19:36 KITCHEN.

06:19:37 SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM

06:19:40 IN HERE.

06:19:41 IT'S PRETTY MUCH SET IN STONE AND IT IS THE WAY IT WAS

06:19:43 BUILT.

06:19:44 THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE TO BUILD A NEW ROOM, HE CAN, IN AN

06:19:47 INTERIOR TO PUT A WASHER AND DRIER AND PLUS THEY WOULD

06:19:49 HAVE TO REPLUMB THE HOUSE.

06:19:51 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AGAIN.

06:19:53 I WANT TO POINT OUT THE GRAND TREE TAKES UP A HUGE

06:19:56 PORTION OF THIS CORNER OF THE YARD WHICH CONSTRAINS THE

06:19:58 ABILITY TO BUILD HORIZONTALLY OR VERTICALLY IN THAT AREA.

06:20:02 AND THERE'S ALSO A BUMP-OUT HERE.

06:20:04 YOU CAN SEE IT MORE CLEARLY HERE ALREADY ON THE SOUTH

06:20:06 SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHICH ITSELF IS LESS THAN 7 FEET

06:20:09 AWAY FROM THE SOUTH BOUNDARY LINE.

06:20:11 SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS NOT UNLIKE THAT WHICH

06:20:14 ALREADY EXISTS ON THE HOUSE.

06:20:18 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS COMING OUT A LITTLE DARK.

06:20:20 WELL, YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, I GUESS.




06:20:23 THIS IS MS. MCELANEY'S HOUSE, THIS IS MS. SMANEY'S HOUSE,

06:20:30 AND I CIRCLED THE FENCE BETWEEN THEM, BUT YOU CAN SEE

06:20:32 THAT ALSO ON THE PICTURES THAT MR. FERNANDEZ ALSO SHOWED.

06:20:36 AS YOU EXPLAINED, THERE'S THE FRONT DOOR HERE.

06:20:38 YOU WALK STRAIGHT THROUGH AND THERE'S THE BACK DOORS.

06:20:40 THIS IS THE PANTRY WITH THE WASHER AND DRIER, AND I THINK

06:20:44 IT'S BACKWARDS.

06:20:45 AND HERE IT IS WITH THE DOORS OPEN.

06:20:49 YOU CAN'T SEE IT TOO WELL BECAUSE IT'S THE QUALITY, BUT

06:20:52 THERE IS A PEACE OF WAD HERE THAT'S BEEN SHOVED

06:20:55 UNDERNEATH THE WASHER AND DRIER TO SORT OF ALLEVIATE THE

06:20:58 UNEVEN FLOOR SOMEWHAT MITIGATE THE WALKING AND SHAKING OF

06:21:02 THE MACHINE.

06:21:04 AND THE DOORS CAN'T BE SHUT WHEN IT'S OPERATED.

06:21:07 AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WASHERS AND DRYERS CAN NEVER BE

06:21:10 STACKED.

06:21:10 THEY CAN IF IT'S IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S MEANT TO HAPPEN.

06:21:12 BUT THIS IS A SHALLOW PANTRY WITH AN UNEVEN FLOOR.

06:21:15 IT WASN'T BUILT TO BE A LAUNDRY ROOM.

06:21:17 AGAIN, CINDY, SHE'S SENSITIVE TO HER MOTHER'S NEEDS AND

06:21:23 HER AGE, ESPECIALLY WANTS A HOME THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND

06:21:26 LIVABLE FOR HERSELF AND HER MOTHER WHEN SHE'S VISITING

06:21:29 SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

06:21:31 YOU HAVE SEEN THE PORCH EARLIER FROM STAFF, BUT SOME OF

06:21:36 THE COMMISSIONERS SUGGESTED THAT WE BUILD AN ADDITION




06:21:40 PROTRUDING INTO THE PORCH SO WE WOULDN'T NEED A VARIANCE.

06:21:44 THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THIS.

06:21:48 YOU HAVE THIS LOWER ROOFLINE THAT NO MATTER WHAT, WE

06:21:52 WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A CHUNG OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF IT.

06:21:54 IT WOULD DISRUPT THE FLOW OF THE HOUSE IF WE HAD TO MOVE

06:21:57 THESE DOORS OR ALTERNATIVELY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE ONE OR

06:22:00 MORE OF THE VERY CLASSIC ROW OF DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS.

06:22:04 SO THE FACADE IS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE HOME.

06:22:06 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO PUT IT AT THIS CORNER HERE,

06:22:09 NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S ALREADY ON THE OTHER SIDE

06:22:12 AND IT WILL RETAIN THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF THE HISTORIC

06:22:15 MATERIALS, THE SCALE, THE FLOW, AND JUST GENERALLY THE

06:22:20 LOOK OF THE BUILDING, AND ALSO THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF

06:22:24 THE HOME.

06:22:27 WE HAVE TO ADD NEW PLUMBING ONCE AGAIN.

06:22:30 AGAIN, HERE IS THE GRAND OAK, A SPECTACULAR TREE.

06:22:35 THE CANOPY EXTENDS OVER THE ROOF OF THE HOUSE AND ITS

06:22:38 RADIUS TAKES UP A LARGE PORTION OF THE YARD.

06:22:40 HERE IS THE SIDE VIEW THAT YOU SAW EARLIER WITH

06:22:42 MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WHICH FURTHER CONSTRAINS THE ABILITY

06:22:45 BUILD ON THIS SIDE BUT ALSO TO BUILD ON THAT SIDE, WE

06:22:48 WOULD STILL NEED A VARIANCE AND THE PLUMBING ISN'T

06:22:50 THEREIN ONCE AGAIN.

06:22:55 SO I PUT LITTLE ARROWS ON HERE SO YOU CAN SEE

06:22:58 SPECIFICALLY.




06:22:58 THE BUMP-OUT WOULD BE IN THE VERY BACK HERE.

06:23:00 THAT'S THE SHED THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

06:23:03 BUT THE BUMP-OUT WOULD BE ON THE BACK.

06:23:05 YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNIFICANCE FENCE HERE.

06:23:07 THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.

06:23:12 SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, REALLY NOT

06:23:15 GOING TO BE SO VISIBLE.

06:23:16 THIS WAS TAKEN BY ME WHEN I WAS STANDING IN THE

06:23:19 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

06:23:19 SO YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE CONTINUES ALL THE WAY TO THE

06:23:22 FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AND AGAIN NOT GOING TO BE EXTREMELY

06:23:26 VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY EITHER.

06:23:30 I AM GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE VARIANCE CRITERIA.

06:23:34 THE FIRST CRITERION IS THAT THE DIFFICULTY HAS TO BE

06:23:38 UNIQUE AND SINGULAR.

06:23:39 WELL, WE SHOWED THAT AS I JUST WENT THROUGH FOR YOU.

06:23:43 EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE IS THE UNIQUE FLOOR PLAN AND

06:23:47 LOT CONFIGURATION OF THE HOME.

06:23:49 IT'S EVERYTHING FROM THE LOCATION OF PLUMBING TO THE OAK

06:23:52 THAT CONSTRAINS THE ABILITY IN THAT ENTIRE PORTION OF THE

06:23:56 YARD TO THE FLOW OF THE HOUSE, AND THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT

06:24:00 HOUSES UP AND DOWN THE STREET IN THE CROSSMAN STYLE THAT

06:24:03 HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LAYOUTS.

06:24:05 IF YOU LOOK ON THE AERIALS THE PROPERTY APPRAISER CAN

06:24:08 SHOW YOU THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.




06:24:10 EACH HOUSE IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE, UNIQUE, AND SOME

06:24:12 PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT A VARIANCE BUT

06:24:15 THAT IS SIMPLY NOT THE CASE HERE.

06:24:17 THIS WAS THE CRITERIA THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY NOTED BY THE

06:24:23 BOARD WAS THAT THIS IS A SELF-CREATED VARIANCE.

06:24:27 I IMMEDIATELY OBJECTED TO HAVING IT CHARACTERIZED LIKE

06:24:30 THAT BECAUSE A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY OR HARDSHIP IS NOT

06:24:33 SELF-CREATED JUST BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO

06:24:37 CHANGE SOMETHING OR BUILD SOMETHING.

06:24:39 IF THAT WERE THE CASE, I DON'T THINK ANY VARIANCE COULD

06:24:42 EVER BE NOT SELF-CREATED.

06:24:44 THEY ALMOST ALWAYS STEM FROM SOMEBODY WANTING TO CHANGE

06:24:47 SOMETHING AND NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT A VARIANCE.

06:24:50 OTHER CONDITIONS, SHE DIDN'T BUILD THE HOUSE, SHE DIDN'T

06:24:54 PLANT THE TREES, SO THIS IS EXACTLY THE INTENT OF THE

06:24:57 CODE IN THAT SHE DIDN'T CREATE THE CONDITIONS.

06:24:59 SO THIS PROVISION WAS MISCONSTRUED AND IT WAS HEAVILY

06:25:02 RELIED ON BY THE BOARD, AND IT WAS A HUGE BASIS FOR THE

06:25:05 DENIAL.

06:25:08 THERE WILL BE NO INJURY TO HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE, AS

06:25:14 WE DISCUSSED, MS. MCELANEY TO THE NORTH, AND SHE'S THE

06:25:18 PERSON WHO WOULD BE MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED AND SHE ALSO

06:25:22 HAS THE SIX FOOT FENCE BUFFER.

06:25:24 AND THIS ADDITION IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY IN HARMONY

06:25:27 WITH THE STYLE OF NOT ONLY MS. MCELANEY'S HOME WHICH HAS




06:25:33 THE BUMPOUT ON THE SIDE, AND IT'S IN THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE,

06:25:33 BUT IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FABRIC OF HYDE PARK

06:25:36 WHICH IS KNOWN FOR THAT CRAFTSMAN STALE OF SO MANY OF THE

06:25:39 HOUSES.

06:25:42 ALSO, CONSISTENT WITH CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

06:25:46 FOR THE SAME REASONS.

06:25:47 IT'S IN HARMONY WITH THE CHARACTER OF HER ACTUAL HOME AND

06:25:50 THE AREA.

06:25:52 PRESERVING A HOME AND IMPROVING IT, EXTENDING IT WELL

06:25:55 INTO THE 21st CENTURY.

06:25:57 WE WANT PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO

06:25:59 LIVE IN THESE HOMES BUT WE CAN'T EXPECT THEM TO LIVE IN A

06:26:02 TIME CAPSULE IN THE YEAR IN WHICH IT WAS BUILT.

06:26:04 THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MODERNIZE THESE HOMES.

06:26:08 MRS. SMANEY PUT A LOT OF LOVE AND MONEY INTO THE HOME AND

06:26:11 SHE WOULD LIKE TO STAY HERE.

06:26:13 THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC BENEFIT AGAIN FOR ALL THE REASONS

06:26:15 I STATED.

06:26:16 WE BENEFIT FROM THESE MAINTAINED PRESERVED HISTORIC

06:26:19 HOMES, THAT'S THE POINT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION

06:26:22 DISTRICT AND WE WANTS PEOPLE TO KEEP THEM, NOT KNOCK THEM

06:26:24 DOWN AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN ITS PLACE.

06:26:26 SO WEIGHING HER PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY WITH THE FACT IT

06:26:32 WILL BENEFIT THE PUBLIC, WHAT THINK IT SUPPORTS THIS

06:26:35 REQUEST.




06:26:35 FINALLY, OUR EVIDENCE, THIS POSITION IS TOTALLY

06:26:40 CONSISTENT WITH THE DISTRICT STYLE.

06:26:42 AGAIN, IT'S A CRAFTSMAN STYLE.

06:26:44 AND I WILL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF HOW IT'S JUST UP AND

06:26:46 DOWN HER STREET AS I TOOK A SCOOTER UP AND DOWN AND TOOK

06:26:50 PHOTOS.

06:26:51 AND WE ARE GOING TO OF COURSE MATERIALS ARE GOING TO

06:26:53 MATCH THE HOME.

06:26:56 I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE

06:27:00 ALTHOUGH THE ROOF ORIENTATION ISN'T EXACTLY HOW WE ARE

06:27:02 GOING TO DO IT, IT'S A BUMP-OUT OF THE VERY REAR, AND

06:27:06 IT'S BLOCKED BY A WOODEN FENCE.

06:27:07 SO THIS IS NOT UNLIKE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

06:27:10 THIS IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO SEE BECAUSE OF THE

06:27:13 SIGNIFICANT HEDGES BUT IT'S THE SAME THING.

06:27:15 YOU CAN SEE THE ROOFLINE THERE BETWEEN THE HEDGES.

06:27:17 IT'S THIS LITTLE BUMP-OUT.

06:27:19 MORE EXAMPLES, VERY DIFFERENT ROOF ORIENTATION.

06:27:22 BUT VERY ECLECTIC STYLE, DOES WHAT IT WANTS AND LINES UP

06:27:28 TO THESE BUMP-OUTS ON ALL DIFFERENT SIZE AND SHAPES AN

06:27:31 SIZES.

06:27:32 SOME THAT ARE EVEN FACING EACH OTHER.

06:27:35 IT'S ALSO A LITTLE HARD TO SEE BUT AGAIN MORE EXAMPLES.

06:27:38 I THINK THESE ARE TWO REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES FOR THE

06:27:41 CRAFTSMAN STYLE.




06:27:42 LIKE I SAID, HOW WELL IT LENDS ITSELF TO THESE FEATURES,

06:27:45 THESE DIFFERENTIATED STYLES.

06:27:48 AND ON THAT NOTE, HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS WE SUBMITTED.

06:27:51 OF COURSE THIS DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE

06:27:54 DEPTH OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE VERY BACK

06:27:57 OF THE HOUSE BUT IT SHOWS YOU HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THE

06:28:00 ROOF.

06:28:01 THE NORTH FACADE, THIS IS THE SIDE THAT WOULD FACE MS.

06:28:06 MCELANEY BUT SHE WON'T BECAUSE OF THE FENCE.

06:28:08 IT'S GOING TO MATCH THE ROW OF WINDOWS THAT CURRENTLY

06:28:11 EXISTS ALONG THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

06:28:13 SO WITH THE WEALTH OF EVIDENCE WE SUBMITTED, THE

06:28:17 NEIGHBORS SUPPORT, THE PERSON WHO WILL BE MOST DIRECTLY

06:28:20 AFFECTED, THE FACT WE ARE ASKING IS TOTALLY CONSISTENT

06:28:23 WITH THE HOME, WITH THE DISTRICT, WITH THE GOALS OF THE

06:28:25 HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT, AT LARGE, AND THE FACT

06:28:29 THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR A 47 SQUARE FEET, SOME OF WHICH IS

06:28:32 THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE HOME, AND IT'S A TWO-FOOT

06:28:35 REQUEST.

06:28:35 WE THINK ALL OF THIS OVERWHELMINGLY WEIGHS IN FAVOR OF

06:28:38 REVERSING THE DENIAL AND GRANTING THE LAUNDRY ROOM.

06:28:43 THANK YOU.

06:28:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:28:44 CONGRESSMAN DINGFELDER, YOU ARE GOING TO RAISE YOUR HAND?

06:28:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONLY AFTER YOU CLOSE.




06:28:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT YOUR HAND WAS UP.

06:28:54 ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

06:28:56 NO?

06:28:57 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

06:28:59 THIS?

06:29:01 I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

06:29:02 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO BE SPEAK ON THIS

06:29:05 ITEM.

06:29:10 >>JIM CREW: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK AND CTTV HAS

06:29:14 ACCESS TO THE CAMERA ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND NO ONE ON

06:29:17 THE SECOND FLOOR.

06:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE?

06:29:20 >>THE CLERK: THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

06:29:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY GUDES, SECOND BY

06:29:31 CITRO.

06:29:32 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:29:33 WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

06:29:34 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

06:29:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

06:29:41 MA'AM, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME, BUT MR. GRANDOFF, SHE

06:29:46 DID A GREAT JOB.

06:29:47 DOUBLE HER SALARY, JOHN.

06:29:51 AS SOMEBODY WHO RECENTLY RENOVATED A CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW,

06:29:59 THEY ARE VERY DELICATE, AND YOU CAN'T PLOP THINGS

06:30:06 WHEREVER PEOPLE MIGHT THINK YOU SHOULD.




06:30:08 BUT I THINK I WILL MOVE TO REVERSE RESPECTFULLY -- I KNOW

06:30:14 THEY WORK HARD -- IT LOOKS LIKE A CLOSE CALL, 3 TO 2 -- I

06:30:18 WILL MOVE TO REVERSE THE ARC'S DECISION WITHOUT

06:30:22 CONDITION.

06:30:25 I BELIEVE THAT PETITIONER AND THE APPLICANT HAVE MET THE

06:30:31 FIVE PRONGS REQUIRED FOR THE VARIANCE.

06:30:38 AND I WANT TO NOTE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

06:30:42 ONLY A 2-FOOT VARIANCE ON THE SIDE YARD.

06:30:45 TOWARDS THE REAR, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK IT WOULD

06:30:47 BE EXTREMELY CHALLENGING FOR ANYBODY TO BE ABLE TO EVEN

06:30:50 SEE THE BUMP-OUT FROM THE STREET.

06:30:52 THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH DOES NOT COMPLAIN.

06:30:55 OBVIOUSLY TO THE SOUTH, NOBODY IS COMPLAINING THERE.

06:31:00 THE 2-FOOT BUMP-OUT OBVIOUSLY ON THE RUNS ABOUT I GUESS

06:31:04 MAYBE A TOTAL OF 40 SQUARE FEET.

06:31:09 SO IT'S NOT VERY LONG AND IT'S PROBABLY 2 OR 3-FOOT.

06:31:19 I BELIEVE THERE'S NOWHERE APPROPRIATE FOR THE WASHER AND

06:31:22 DRIER LAUNDRY ROOM.

06:31:25 SO FOR THOSE REASONS I WILL MOVE TO REVERSE THE ARC

06:31:31 DECISION.

06:31:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

06:31:34 DINGFELDER.

06:31:35 MR. SHELBY?

06:31:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

06:31:38 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I BELIEVE THE MOTION I BELIEVE




06:31:42 WOULD BE TO OVERTURN THE ARC DECISION, AND I BELIEVE WHEN

06:31:47 YOU SET FORTH THE CRITERIA, YOU WERE REFERENCING SECTION

06:31:50 27-114-B.

06:31:54 IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?

06:31:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

06:32:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

06:32:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

06:32:04 IS THAT CORRECT?

06:32:05 ROLL CALL VOTE.

06:32:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

06:32:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

06:32:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

06:32:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

06:32:13 >>BILL CARLSON:

06:32:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

06:32:17 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

06:32:19 >>JAIME MAIER: THANK YOU.

06:32:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 9.

06:32:25 WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

06:32:28 THE APPLICANT IS THERE.

06:32:30 BUT WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE CITY'S PRESENTATION.

06:32:32 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

06:32:41 THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION 1

06:32:44 PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-60.

06:32:48 ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTIONAL WITH MINOR DEVIATIONS FROM




06:32:52 THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE

06:32:54 SUBJECT TO LIMITATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE CODE.

06:32:56 CRITERIA THAT STAFF APPLIES WHEN EVALUATING AN

06:32:59 ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION ARE FOUND IN SECTION 27-60-5

06:33:05 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

06:33:06 THIS APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CODE CRITERIA AS

06:33:10 DETERMINED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

06:33:11 PETITIONER HAS THE BURDEN TO PROVE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA

06:33:14 FOR THE GRANTING OF THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.

06:33:16 THIS REVIEW HEARING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS DE NOVO WHICH

06:33:19 MEANS THAT YOU ARE NOT LIMITED IN YOUR REVIEW TO THE

06:33:21 INFORMATION, DOCUMENTATION OR EVIDENCE FROM WHICH STAFF

06:33:26 BASED ITS OPINION.

06:33:27 HOWEVER YOU MUST APPLY THE CODE CRITERIA FOUGHT EVIDENCE

06:33:31 PRESENTED.

06:33:31 COUNCIL MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH,

06:33:34 SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE ARE PROTECTED.

06:33:40 NOW I TURN IT OVER TO ERIC COTTON WHO WILL PRESENT THE

06:33:42 CASE TO YOU.

06:33:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S SWEAR IN MR. COTTON.

06:33:47 WERE YOU SWORN IN?

06:33:50 NO?

06:33:50 RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL GET IT ALL DONE.

06:33:52 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

06:34:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.




06:34:03 >>ERIC COTTON: IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

06:34:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CREW, YOU ARE MUTED.

06:34:15 AND HOWEVER IS NOT SPEAKING PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

06:34:18 I HEAR A CHILD IN THE BACKGROUND.

06:34:19 >>JIM CREW: MR. GALATI IS TO BE SWORN IN.

06:34:26 HE WILL BE SPEAKING.

06:34:27 HE'S THE FIRST PERSON SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

06:34:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GALATI.

06:34:33 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

06:34:35 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

06:34:41 >> YES, I DO.

06:34:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. COTTON.

06:34:48 >>ERIC COTTON: BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND.

06:34:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU ARE.

06:34:54 >>ERIC COTTON: LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

06:34:56 THIS WAS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION 1,

06:35:03 120-197, FOR PROPERTY AT 2526 CORDELIA STREET.

06:35:08 THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD FROM FIVE FEET TO

06:35:12 1.9 FEET AND THE REAR YARD FROM 20 FEET DOWN TO -- 15

06:35:16 FEET DOWN TO ABOUT 1 FOOT.

06:35:21 THE APPLICANT ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR -- THE ENTIRE

06:35:27 REQUEST WAS DENIED.

06:35:28 THE APPLICANT THEN CAME IN, AND IN ANOTHER DESIGN

06:35:32 EXCEPTION 121-12 PRESENTED ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE, AND AS A

06:35:36 RESULT STAFF APPROVED THE INCREASE IN THE FRONT YARD




06:35:41 SETBACK, FROM 12 FEET TO 18.2 FEET, INCREASE AS A RESULT

06:35:44 OF THE -- REQUIRED IN TAMPA AND APPROVED THE CORNER YARD

06:35:51 REDUCTION FROM 5 FEET DOWN TO 3.4 FEET FOR THE PORCH

06:35:53 AREA.

06:35:54 I WILL SHOW YOU MOMENTARILY ON THE SITE PLAN.

06:35:58 BUT AGAIN THE SECOND REQUEST WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,

06:36:02 THE REAR AND THE SIDE YARD.

06:36:04 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN IN QUESTION.

06:36:08 WE HAVE A LITTLE RED BOX THAT REQUEST THE 1.9 FEET AND

06:36:13 THE ROUGHLY 1 FOOT IN THE REAR.

06:36:18 PROPERTY IS ZONED RS-50 AT THE CORNER OF TAMPANIA AND

06:36:22 CORDELIA.

06:36:23 IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

06:36:26 THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE FRONT.

06:36:29 THIS IS THE FRONT.

06:36:33 THIS IS THE PORTION THAT YOU SEE ON THE PICTURE BEHIND

06:36:35 THE FENCE THAT WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY TO REDUCE

06:36:38 THE CORNER YARD.

06:36:40 THAT WAS A CONDITION THAT IT NEVER GET ENCLOSED AND

06:36:47 REMAIN A SCREENED ROOM.

06:36:48 THIS IS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.

06:36:53 THE AREA RIGHT THERE IN THE BACK, THAT'S THE PART THAT

06:36:56 WAS DENIED BY STAFF AT THE CORNER -- EXCUSE ME, THE SIDE

06:37:01 AND THE REAR YARD.

06:37:05 THAT'S WHAT WE DENIED ADMINISTRATIVELY.




06:37:07 AND THIS IS THE SANBORN MAP, WAY USE FOR JUSTIFICATION

06:37:10 FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE FRONT YARD, AND THE PART THAT'S

06:37:15 HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, THAT'S THE HOUSE AS OF 1976, SO

06:37:18 THE FRONT YARD, YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT YARD THE WAY IT WAS

06:37:21 IN 76 WITH THE SETBACK AND THIS CORNER WITH A SMALLER

06:37:26 PORTION THAT WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY REDUCED.

06:37:29 AGAIN THE REAR YARD FROM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S

06:37:32 PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S A LARGE REDUCTION, IT'S 66%, ABOUT

06:37:40 60% ON THE SIDE AND AROUND 90% IN THE REAR.

06:37:46 TOO LARGE TO APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY.

06:37:48 DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

06:37:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

06:37:52 FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

06:38:00 ALL RIGHT.

06:38:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

06:38:03 NEXT UP, I BELIEVE, IS THE APPLICANT.

06:38:08 MR. HAD YOU HAD SEASON, GO AHEAD, OR MR. GALATI, WHO IS

06:38:11 GOING TO KICK IT OFF.

06:38:12 >> 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

06:38:17 APPLICANT.

06:38:18 HERE WITH ME IS THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT DAN

06:38:22 GALATI.

06:38:23 CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN?

06:38:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.

06:38:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.




06:38:44 >> YOU SEE THE POWER POINT?

06:38:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

06:38:47 >> THANK YOU.

06:38:50 YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT AND THE ISSUE WITH THE STRUCTURE ON

06:38:54 THE LEFT SIDE THERE WHICH IS THE SOUTH CORNER.

06:38:57 THIS IS IN WEST TAMPA.

06:39:03 AND THIS -- I'M SORRY, THERE'S THE REDUCTION WE WANT.

06:39:11 A LITTLE HISTORY WHY WE ARE HERE ON THIS PROPERTY.

06:39:16 THIS HAD A HISTORY OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES THAT GOES

06:39:19 BACK MANY YEARS.

06:39:20 THERE WERE SOME INAPPROPRIATE RENTAL ACTIVITY OF THIS

06:39:23 STRUCTURE.

06:39:25 AND THE HISTORY OF UNPERMITTED CONSTRUCTION.

06:39:27 AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE THINGS START.

06:39:29 THE HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1949, AND IT WAS 49 YEARS

06:39:33 AFTER THAT IN 1998 THAT THE UNPERMITTED CONSTRUCTION OF

06:39:38 THE SOUTHEAST ADDITION OCCURRED.

06:39:42 SETBACK VIOLATIONS THAT TOOK YEARS TO CONFRONT.

06:39:46 THE ADDITION CONTINUED WITH PROPERTY TAXES, NOT PART OF

06:39:49 THE DESIGN EXCEPTION CRITERIA, BUT NOTING THAT.

06:39:54 BETWEEN 2011 AND 2018 IS WHEN THERE WAS CODE ENFORCEMENT

06:39:58 COMPLAINTS.

06:39:59 MY CLIENT DAN GALATI ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN 20919.

06:40:06 THERE'S BEEN NOON UNPERMITTED WORK BY THE CURRENT OWNER

06:40:09 AND DAN WILL GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT SOME OF THE PERMITTED




06:40:13 WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN AN ATTEMPT TO REHABILITATE THE

06:40:17 STRUCTURE.

06:40:18 AS ERIC NOTED IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR THE DESIGN

06:40:21 EXCEPTION APPLICATION WAS PARTIALLY APPROVED AND

06:40:23 PARTIALLY DENIED.

06:40:27 HISTORIC CONTENT, I BELIEVE 1939, THIS ENTIRE BLOCK WAS

06:40:34 NOT INHABITED, TO THE SOUTH AND THE EAST.

06:40:38 THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S SOMEWHAT PERVASIVE IN WEST

06:40:41 TAMPA WITH VERY MINIMAL SIDE, REAR SETBACK STRUCTURES,

06:40:47 CONNECTED TO 2719 KATHLEEN OR THE SAME LOT AS THE PRIMARY

06:40:54 STRUCTURE.

06:40:59 THE CRITERIA THAT ARE APPLICABLE THAT YOU ALL NEED TO

06:41:03 APPLY, THE FIRST IS THAT THERE'S NO INTERFERENCE OF

06:41:08 OTHERS.

06:41:09 I WOULD NOTE AT THE OUTSET THAT McFarlane park

06:41:12 neighborhood association began to get in touch in touch

06:41:16 with us, did not know of any neighborhood opposition,

06:41:20 being publicly noticed, with a sign out front.

06:41:22 We don't believe there is -- folks enjoy their property

06:41:26 as a result of this structure.

06:41:32 The second criteria about the exception being necessary,

06:41:35 we believe that it is necessary to allow this structure

06:41:40 again to continue to avoid an unnecessary demolition, if

06:41:45 we do not meet the exception then the applicant will be

06:41:47 forced essentially to demolish the property that's been




06:41:50 INTEGRATED INTO THE PRIMARY PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE.

06:41:54 THE COMP PLAN, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE

06:41:57 EXTENT THAT THE ZONING CODE HAS TO BE NEED TO BE

06:42:00 COMPLIANT AND CONSISTENT WITH TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

06:42:02 THERE ARE POLICIES IN PLACE -- SORRY.

06:42:10 EXCUSE MY SCREEN.

06:42:17 SORRY.

06:42:20 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES THAT I THINK ARE

06:42:23 APPLICABLE HERE PARTICULARLY DISCOURAGE DEMOLITION

06:42:26 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES, THE DESIGN EXCEPTION WAS

06:42:35 DENIED, AND IN TAMPA INCLUDING WEST TAMPA FOR

06:42:38 MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOUSING AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS

06:42:41 STRUCTURE IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION DOES PERMIT.

06:42:43 LAND USE POLICY 9.5.1 SEEKS TO POINT IT OUT, HAVING

06:42:48 SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS, HOUSEHOLD WITH CHILDREN AND OTHER

06:42:52 RESIDENTS, WE THINK THAT ALLOWS THAT.

06:42:59 IT'S ACTUALLY EXACTLY WHAT'S REQUIRED TO PRESERVE THE

06:43:02 STRUCTURE IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION.

06:43:06 THE CONDITIONS D AND F ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THE SPECIFIC

06:43:09 PLANS IN PLACE FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT THAT COUNCIL

06:43:17 BELIEVES IS APPROPRIATE.

06:43:18 SO WE NEED THE DESIGN EXCEPTION TO KEEP THE FLOAT ITS

06:43:21 CURRENT CONFIGURATION.

06:43:22 THAT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD WHY WE ARE HERE.

06:43:27 WE ARE NOT AWARE OF OPPOSITION.




06:43:29 AND THIS WILL ONLY APPLY TO BUILDING FOOTPRINT, NOT THE

06:43:31 ENTIRE LOT.

06:43:32 SO THAT'S ABOUT FIFTY WORDS WHY WE ARE HERE.

06:43:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. GALATI.

06:43:40 >> DAN GALATI: THANK YOU.

06:43:44 YES, I JUST WANTED TO BASICALLY JUST REITERATE I HAD

06:43:50 EVERY INTENTION OF DOING THE RIGHT THING BY THIS HOUSE

06:43:53 AND BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

06:43:53 I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH WEST TAMPA, AND MACFARLANE PARK

06:43:59 AND I APPRECIATE THE HISTORY INVOLVED IN THE

06:44:01 NEIGHBORHOOD.

06:44:02 AND ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, I WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE THE

06:44:08 FLOOR PLAN AND SEE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE FOR AN

06:44:13 EXTENDED FAMILY AND REALIZE THAT THIS IS A NEED IN THE

06:44:18 COMMUNITY THAT WEST TAMPA HAS GOT A LOT OF

06:44:22 MULTI-GENERATIONAL DEMAND IN IT AS FAR AS LIVING WITH

06:44:26 ELDERS OR TYPICALLY THREE OR FOUR GENERATIONS LIVING IN

06:44:34 ONE HOUSE.

06:44:34 AND I SAW THE POTENTIAL THERE AND IT NEEDED SOME TLC AND

06:44:40 ATTENTION.

06:44:40 SO WE HAVE SINCE IMPROVED THE HOME WITH A NEW ROOF.

06:44:43 WE KNOW OF SOME WATER INTRUSION ISSUES.

06:44:47 AND SINCE ESSENTIALLY CREATED A BEAUTIFUL UPDATED PLACE

06:44:52 FOR A MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILY TO CALL HOME.

06:44:55 SO OBVIOUSLY WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS WHERE WE ARE NO




06:44:59 LONGER SURE IF WE CAN FULFILL THAT NEED, AND THE

06:45:01 ADDITIONAL HOUSE ALONE TO REMEDY THIS MAY LIMIT THE

06:45:04 BEAR'S ABILITY TO PURCHASE THIS HOME IF WE ARE FORCED TO

06:45:07 DEMO IT AND MAKE RIGHT ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AFTER

06:45:13 DEMOLITION.

06:45:14 SO ULTIMATELY, I FEEL TO ELIMINATE THE A PERFECTLY GOOD

06:45:19 STRUCTURE AND TAKE AWAY AN OFFERING FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD

06:45:21 THAT IS SHOWING DEMAND TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR LARGE OR

06:45:24 MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILIES.

06:45:27 WE CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL THERE.

06:45:28 I HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED INTEREST, IN ACTUALLY THAT TYPE

06:45:31 OF DEMOGRAPHIC.

06:45:33 AND I AM JUST HOPING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT WITH THE

06:45:35 EXISTING STRUCTURE.

06:45:37 WE BELIEVE IT TO BE QUALITY BUILT AND OUR CONTRACTORS

06:45:44 HAVE BASICALLY CONFIRMED THE HOUSE IS GOOD TO GO AND WE

06:45:48 FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT CAN SERVE THE NEED OF THOSE IN THE

06:45:52 NEIGHBORHOOD.

06:45:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:45:55 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

06:45:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR

06:46:06 PRESENTATION.

06:46:09 CAN YOU PUT THE AERIAL?

06:46:10 DO YOU HAVE AN AERIAL PHOTO SHOWING THE BACKYARD?

06:46:13 I BELIEVE MR. COTTON INDICATED THERE IS A SETBACK AT




06:46:18 ISSUE AND A SIDE YARD SETBACK.

06:46:20 >> I THINK ERIC'S AERIAL -- WOULD YOU MIND SHOWING

06:46:29 YOUR -- SHARING YOUR SCREEN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND?

06:46:32 THANK YOU.

06:46:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE AERIAL TO THE

06:46:50 REAR, THE REAR ROOF?

06:46:53 >> I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ZOOM IN ON A POWER

06:47:00 POINT.

06:47:03 IS THAT ANY BETTER?

06:47:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO BACK A SECOND.

06:47:14 IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE'S AN ADDITION -- THERE'S AN

06:47:20 ADDITION AS HE SAYS TOWARD THE REAR LOT AND THEN THERE'S

06:47:26 A SEPARATE ROOF THAT EVEN GOES CLOSER, AND THAT GOES TO

06:47:33 ONE FOOT OFF THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.

06:47:35 WHAT IS THAT BEHIND THE ADDITION?

06:47:40 >> SO THAT IS A FOUR POST AND LIKE A METAL ALMOST WHAT

06:47:46 THEY CALL A LEAN-TO.

06:47:51 SORRY?

06:47:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE YOU PLANNING TO KEEP THAT?

06:47:55 >> NOT NECESSARILY.

06:47:57 THAT'S A COVERED PATIO.

06:47:58 THERE IS A REAR DOOR OFF OF THE STRUCTURE.

06:48:00 AND THAT IS BASICALLY A CONTINUED COVERED PATIO OFF OF

06:48:03 THAT DAR.

06:48:07 TO THE RIGHT OF THE TREE, I ASSUME.




06:48:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, YOU DID ZOOM IN.

06:48:13 OKAY.

06:48:14 SO ERIC, THAT STRUCTURE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, I GUESS

06:48:21 THE FOUR-POST LEAN-TO SORT OF THING, IS THAT WHAT TAKES

06:48:25 US VERY CLOSE TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE?

06:48:32 >>ERIC COTTON: THE REAR PROPERTY LINE FROM THE SITE PLAN,

06:48:34 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A DETACHED STRUCTURE OR AN

06:48:39 ATTACHED STRUCTURE.

06:48:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE A SURVEY THAT CAME IN WITH

06:48:43 THIS APPLICATION?

06:48:46 >> YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I CAN PUT THAT ON SCREEN.

06:48:48 AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WITHOUT GIVING -- THE REAR SETBACK

06:48:54 REDUCTION IS FROM 15 FEET DOWN TO 13 FEET 2 INCHES, AND I

06:48:57 DEFER TO MY CLIENT, BUT I BELIEVE HE WOULD WELCOME A

06:49:04 CONDITION THAT IT'S 13.2 AND NOT 1.

06:49:08 THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

06:49:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOLD ON.

06:49:11 >> THIS IS THE ADDITION THAT'S UNDER QUESTION WHICH I

06:49:19 THOUGHT WAS PART OF THE PROPERTY BUT I GUESS IT'S A

06:49:21 DETACHED SHED.

06:49:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.

06:49:23 >> I DON'T WANT TO JUMP IN DURING THE PRESENTATION.

06:49:26 I THINK THE APPLICATION PACKAGE REQUESTED THERE WAS A

06:49:29 REDUCTION ON THE SIDE, BUT I BELIEVE OUR REAR WAS

06:49:32 ACTUALLY 13 FEET 2 WHICH IS NOT REFERRED TO WHAT DAN




06:49:41 REFERRED TO AS A LEAN-TO.

06:49:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD IN THE

06:49:44 PRESENT OF ERIC'S PRESENTATION, I THINK DOWN TO ONE FOOT.

06:49:50 >>ERIC COTTON: THAT'S CORRECT.

06:49:55 BASED ON THE SURVEY, I ASSUMED THIS WAS PART IT OF THE

06:49:58 MAIN STRUCTURE, NOT A SHED, TOW SO TO SPEAK.

06:50:03 THE SURVEY MADE IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS A COVERED AREA.

06:50:06 THAT WAS A DIFFERENCE OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

06:50:08 >> COUNCILMAN, IT'S SORT OF A REDUCTION OF 13.2.

06:50:14 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.

06:50:15 NOT A REDUCTION TO 1 FOOT ON THE REAR.

06:50:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT EVEN THAT COVERED STRUCTURE IS

06:50:24 WITHIN A FOOT, IT STILL COULD BE NOT LEGAL.

06:50:31 IS THAT TRUE, ERIC?

06:50:32 I THOUGHT IT HAD TO BE 3 FEET IF IT'S A SEPARATE

06:50:37 STRUCTURE.

06:50:39 >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.

06:50:39 A STRUCTURE HAS TO HAVE A 3-FOOT SIDE AND 3-FOOT REAR AND

06:50:42 HAS TO BE 5 FEET TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

06:50:55 IT COULD BE MOVED.

06:50:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BASED ON WHAT I HEARD SO FAR, AND I

06:50:59 KNOW I AM ONLY ONE OF FIVE OR SIX MEMBERS TONIGHT, BASED

06:51:04 ON WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING THE

06:51:09 BLOCK, THE BLOCK ADDITION THAT'S IN FRONT OF THAT WHICH

06:51:13 WOULD GO BACK TO 13 FEET ON THE REAR, I GUESS 1 FOOT ON




06:51:17 THE SIDE, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT A LONG TIME AGO.

06:51:23 AND TO GET RID OF AND/OR MOVE THE LEAN-TO, WHATEVER IT'S

06:51:30 CALLED.

06:51:31 YOU KNOW, I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

06:51:34 I DO 2021 SAY ONE THING, MR. GALATI.

06:51:38 YOU ARE A KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON, EXPERIENCED IN THIS TYPE

06:51:40 OF STUFF.

06:51:41 WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT, I'M SURE YOU WERE WELL AWARE THAT

06:51:44 THIS WASN'T NECESSARILY A LEGAL STRUCTURE.

06:51:48 YOU ARE NOT THE INNOCENT PURCHASER.

06:51:50 SO THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED

06:51:54 HERE IS SOMEBODY BUILT SOMETHING A LONG TIME AGO, KIND OF

06:51:58 TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU

06:52:01 KNOW, THEN THEY SOLD IT TO YOU, AND NOW BEGGING

06:52:05 FORGIVENESS ON THAT BASIS.

06:52:07 SO THAT WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW.

06:52:12 WHEN DON'T WANT PEOPLE BUILDING ILLEGAL STRUCTURES, AND

06:52:15 THEN MOVING FROM THAT PROPERTY, ET CETERA.

06:52:20 WITH THAT SAID I WILL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX AND LEAVE YOU

06:52:23 ALONE.

06:52:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:52:25 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?

06:52:26 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK

06:52:30 ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 9?

06:52:32 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS




06:52:38 ITEM.

06:52:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I LEAN, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO BE

06:52:41 SPEAK IN PERSON?

06:52:44 >> NO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY TO BE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

06:52:47 >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

06:52:50 CITRO.

06:52:50 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:52:51 AYE.

06:52:52 ANY OPPOSED?

06:52:52 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

06:52:54 ITEM NUMBER 9.

06:53:03 AND YOU HAVE SAMPLE MOTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU TO OVERTURN

06:53:07 OR AFFIRM THE ARC DECISION.

06:53:21 WRITE.

06:53:32 THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION, WHETHER TO AFFIRM.

06:53:38 WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO TAKE IT?

06:53:47 I HAVE THE HARC DOCUMENT AND I HAVE THE ALCOHOLIC

06:53:56 BEVERAGE.

06:54:00 AND I HAVE THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.

06:54:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE A MOTION IF SOMEBODY CAN

06:54:05 WALK ME THROUGH IT.

06:54:06 SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING

06:54:13 ADMINISTRATOR RULING.

06:54:19 MARTY, WHAT ELSE SHOULD I SAY?

06:54:21 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.




06:54:40 SO THE REMAINING REQUESTS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ARE TO

06:54:43 REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACKS FROM 15 FEET TO 13.2 FEET

06:54:48 AND REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 5 FEET TO 1.9 FEET.

06:54:53 SO IF THIS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS TO OVERTURN THE ZONING

06:54:58 ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL, THEN YOUR MOTION SHOULD REFLECT

06:55:02 THAT YOU ARE OVERTURNING THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S

06:55:05 DENIAL, AND APPROVING THE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD

06:55:09 SETBACK FROM 15 FEET TO 13.2 FEET, AND APPROVING THE

06:55:13 REQUEST TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 5 FEET TO

06:55:16 1.9 FELT.

06:55:19 >>BILL CARLSON: IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE CLERK, AND

06:55:21 ATTORNEYS, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE

06:55:23 THE LANGUAGE THAT MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ JUST GAVE US.

06:55:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

06:55:29 CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

06:55:32 ROLL CALL VOTE.

06:55:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

06:55:38 QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

06:55:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

06:55:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

06:55:44 MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, DOES COUNCIL HAVE THE LEGAL ABILITY TO

06:55:48 CONDITION THE MOTION, CONDITIONED TO REMOVE, OR -- THE

06:55:59 COVERED STRUCTURE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT?

06:56:02 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES.

06:56:03 COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO CONDITION ITS APPROVAL OF THE




06:56:06 REQUESTED SETBACK AREA.

06:56:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GALATI HAS HIS HAND UP.

06:56:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE

06:56:17 HEARING?

06:56:19 MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY CITRO.

06:56:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:56:23 OKAY.

06:56:23 THE HEARING IS NOW REOPENED.

06:56:24 GO AHEAD.

06:56:30 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD A QUESTION.

06:56:32 WE HAD THE HEARING REOPENED.

06:56:33 >> DAN GALATI.

06:56:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE PETITIONER,

06:56:39 THE APPLICANT, MR. GALATI, IF THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO

06:56:42 THAT ADDITIONAL CONDITION, OF REMOVING THAT STRUCTURE.

06:56:51 MR. GALATI?

06:56:52 >> DAN GALATI: OBVIOUSLY NO ONE HERE HAS BEEN ON-SITE.

06:56:57 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT LEAN-TO TO BE VERY CLOSE TO THE

06:57:03 PROPERTY LINE.

06:57:04 AND AFTER REVIEWING THE SURVEY, LOOKING AT THE PICTURE

06:57:09 HERE ACTUALLY, I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE BACKYARD THAT

06:57:11 SOMEWHAT SHOWS LOOKING AT THE SURVEY, IT DOESN'T SEEM

06:57:15 THAT THEY HAVE DONE ANY SORT OF MEASUREMENT OF THE SIZE

06:57:19 OF THAT LEAN-TO.

06:57:21 IT'S JUST ESSENTIALLY THEY HAVE NEGATED THE STRUCTURE




06:57:25 ITSELF AND JUST BASICALLY SHOWN A COVERED AREA.

06:57:28 IF I AM ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY SHOW MY SCREEN, YOU MIGHT BE

06:57:31 ABLE TO SEE HOW THERE'S MORE THAN -- THANK YOU.

06:57:38 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS, BECAUSE WE DON'T

06:57:40 HAVE A MEASUREMENT, BUT CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?

06:57:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

06:57:48 GO AHEAD, SIR.

06:57:50 >> SO THIS IS THE DISTANCE HERE.

06:57:52 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE EDGE OF THE ROOF.

06:57:53 THIS IS THE LEAN-TO IN QUESTION.

06:57:55 AND THIS IS NOT ONLY A COUPLE OF FEET.

06:57:58 THIS MAY BE 10, 12, 15 FEET FROM THE DISTANCE FROM THE

06:58:02 FENCE.

06:58:03 AND AFTER LOOKING AT THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY

06:58:07 DIDN'T TAKE MEASUREMENTS OF IT OTHER THAN THE FENCE LINE

06:58:09 TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

06:58:10 SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER A REQUIREMENT IS TO -- BUT I WANT

06:58:16 TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS COMPLETELY INFORMED THAT

06:58:18 THIS IS NOT IN QUESTION OF BEING ONLY ONE FOOT FROM THE

06:58:22 PROPERTY LINE.

06:58:23 IF YOU LOOK AT IT HERE, AND BY APPEARANCE KNOW THAT THIS

06:58:27 IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SPACE.

06:58:29 >> IF I CAN JUMP IN BRIEFLY.

06:58:35 WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE SETBACK REDUCTION OF 13 FEET

06:58:39 2 INCHES ON THE REAR, AND WE WILL ENSURE THAT THERE ARE




06:58:41 NO MORE VIOLATIONS REGARDING SETBACK ISSUES.

06:58:47 SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING PAST 13 FEET

06:58:51 2 INCHES THAT IT WILL BE REMOVED.

06:58:58 >>> ANYTHING ELSE?

06:58:59 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION?

06:59:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, IT'S KIND OF INTRIGUING BECAUSE

06:59:06 THE SURVEY DEFINITELY SHOWS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT

06:59:08 THE PHOTOGRAPH SHOWS.

06:59:11 IF WE GO BACK TO THE SURVEY, SOMEBODY.

06:59:15 >> SO LOOKING AT THE SURVEY, AND A FOOT AWAY, THAT'S

06:59:23 PROBABLY WHAT ERIC SAW WHEN HE WAS LOOKING AT IT.

06:59:28 >>ERIC COTTON: THIS IS ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT

06:59:30 COORDINATION.

06:59:31 I BELIEVE WHAT THAT'S SHOWING IN THE SURVEY, AND YOU CAN

06:59:35 RECALL FROM THE AERIAL FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S

06:59:39 OFFICE, THAT WAS REMOVED, SINCE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER

06:59:43 TOOK THAT AERIAL, BECAUSE THE SHED LOOKS LIKE A METAL

06:59:46 SHED THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY.

06:59:49 THAT DOESN'T APPEAR IN THE PICTURES AT THIS POINT THAT

06:59:52 MR. GALATI SHOWED SO THAT MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN REMOVED.

06:59:55 >> YES, I CAN AFFIRM THE SHED WAS REMOVED.

06:59:59 >> THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE SURVEY AND THE

07:00:04 PICTURE THE APPLICANT JUST SHARED.

07:00:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN IN THAT CASE I DON'T HAVE ANY

07:00:08 OBJECTION TO IT.




07:00:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

07:00:12 MOTION TO CLOSE BY CITRUS, SECOND BY CARLSON.

07:00:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:00:16 WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH

07:00:19 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

07:00:22 ROLL CALL VOTE.

07:00:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

07:00:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

07:00:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

07:00:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:00:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:00:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

07:00:33 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

07:00:35 >> JUST QUICKLY I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMAN

07:00:41 DINGFELDER HAD ABOUT FOLKS CHANGING THINGS AND THEN

07:00:45 EXPECTING COUNCIL TO APPROVE THEM LATER.

07:00:47 BUT THIS ONE IS FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM I THINK WHOEVER DID

07:00:51 IT THAT I WAS OKAY WITH THIS.

07:00:54 BUT JUST AS A WARNING TO ANYBODY WATCHING THAT'S THINKING

07:00:56 ABOUT DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE DON'T.

07:00:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.

07:01:00 OR ELSE.

07:01:02 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:01:03 ALL RIGHT.

07:01:04 WE ARE -- JUST TO BE SAFE, A MOTION TO OPEN 10 THROUGH




07:01:12 15, CITRO, GUDES.

07:01:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:01:16 THESE ARE ALL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND WE HAVE FIVE THIS

07:01:19 EVENING.

07:01:20 ITEM NUMBER 10.

07:01:21 >>RYAN MANASSE: I THINK I NEED TO BE SWORN IN.

07:01:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SWEAR THE GENTLEMAN IN.

07:01:30 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

07:01:36 >>JIM CREW: CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

07:01:38 THERE ARE THREE SPEAKERS WHO ALSO NEED TO BE SWORN IN IF

07:01:40 THEY WOULD TURN ON THEIR CAMERAS, PLEASE.

07:01:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE MICHELLE KNIGHT AND GRACE

07:01:45 YANG.

07:01:48 PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.

07:01:51 I SEE MICHELLE.

07:01:52 WE NEED GRACE TO TURN ON HER CAMERA.

07:01:56 AND THERE'S BRIAN KNOX AS WELL.

07:02:00 YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, ALL THREE.

07:02:03 RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

07:02:04 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

07:02:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD,

07:02:14 SIR.

07:02:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

07:02:17 IF I WOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

07:02:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.




07:02:36 >> AB2-20-05, 201 GENERALLY NORTH DALE MABRY, AND THE

07:02:42 PROPOSED USE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A SMALL BEER,

07:02:48 WINE, LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES

07:02:48 FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.

07:02:55 AGAIN, THE PROPOSED USE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT IS BAR

07:02:59 LOUNGE AND RETAIL SALES.

07:03:00 THE TOTAL AB SALES AREA 6,317 SQUARE FEET.

07:03:05 THAT CONSISTS OF 5,572 SQUARE FEET INSIDE AND 745 SQUARE

07:03:09 FEET OUTSIDE.

07:03:11 THE SITE PLAN DOES SHOW DRIVEWAY ON NORTH DALE MABRY AND

07:03:15 NORTH B STREET AND STERLING AVENUE.

07:03:18 THE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS SITE HAS MULTIPLE USES ON

07:03:23 IT, THROUGH AN APPROVED PD, IS 260 PARKING SPACES AND THE

07:03:28 SITE PLAN IS SHOWING 277 BEING PROVIDED.

07:03:32 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS

07:03:34 CENTER AND DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 250 FEET

07:03:37 FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL USES.

07:03:39 AGAIN THE SITE PLAN DOES SHOW THE AREA SHALL NOT BE

07:03:42 WITHIN A PARKING OR LOADING AREA OR SPACE AND THAT ALL

07:03:45 PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT

07:03:48 ON-SITE WHICH IS A COPY OF THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND

07:03:51 ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN.

07:03:53 THE HOURS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED ARE CONSISTENT WITH

07:03:55 CHAPTER 14.

07:03:57 AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, THERE IS AN EXISTING ACTIVE




07:04:00 AB SALES PERMIT, ORDINANCE 93-2700, AND IS FOR 4(COP-R)

07:04:07 FOR LICENSE FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR. AND THAT WAS ONLY

07:04:10 FOR THE INDOOR AREA AT 6901 SQUARE FEET SO THERE'S A

07:04:15 LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASING BY MAKING THAT OUT DOOR AREA.

07:04:18 AND AGAIN THAT IS PER THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD SITE

07:04:21 PLAN FROM 2012 -- I'M SORRY, ORDINANCE 2012-107 WHICH IS

07:04:26 FILE 1228 AND THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION WERE TO CITY CODE.

07:04:30 THE WAIVER REQUEST BEFORE YOU AND THAT'S JUST TO ENSURE

07:04:33 THAT THE PD IS IN COMPLIANCE WITHIN TODAY'S SPECIAL USE

07:04:37 THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU COMES FROM SECTION 27-283RD-J TO

07:04:42 ALLOW COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC TO ACCESS THROUGH THE LOCAL

07:04:44 STREET.

07:04:46 LOCAL STREETS ARE NORTH STERLING AVENUE, AND THE NORTH --

07:04:52 AVENUE.

07:04:52 THE DISTANCE SEPARATION AGAIN IS -- THAT IS 250 FEET FROM

07:04:58 RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THERE IS HEART ROUTE 36 WHICH RUNS

07:05:03 REGULAR SERVICE ON NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY AND ROUTE 30

07:05:05 ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

07:05:08 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AND GENERALLY NORTH IS OVER HERE TO

07:05:13 YOUR RIGHT, SO HERE IS GOING NORTH DALE MABRY AND YOU CAN

07:05:17 SEE THE SUBJECT PD AND THE PROPERTY IS THIS ODDLY SHAPED

07:05:21 LOT, BUT THIS WAS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LOT, AND THE

07:05:23 SUBJECT SITE ITSELF IS RIGHT HERE WITH THE BUILDING A.

07:05:29 THERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT IS BEFORE YOU.

07:05:31 AND THE PARKING CALCULATIONS FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE ARE




07:05:37 185 FEET AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS CALCULATED FOR THE

07:05:40 PREVIOUS PD SO WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT IN ACCORDANCE

07:05:44 WITH THAT AS WELL.

07:05:46 AND THIS MIGHT BE A BETTER AERIAL TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE

07:05:50 OUTLINE OF THE PROPERTY AND HERE IS KENNEDY SOUTH, AND

07:05:52 THEN NORTH DALE MABRY.

07:05:57 HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE TWO ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE

07:05:59 CURRENTLY THERE.

07:06:00 I'LL LET THE AGENT EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THE APPLICANT'S

07:06:03 PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE AND GENERALLY THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE

07:06:07 THAT'S BEING AB ZONED OR RE-AB ZONED FOR THAT OUTDOOR

07:06:13 AREA.

07:06:13 HERE IS THE NORTH END OF THE SITE AND TO THE RIGHT THE

07:06:15 SOUTH END OF THE SITE.

07:06:17 THESE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE ON

07:06:18 THERE.

07:06:19 THE APPROVED PD AND LOCATED AT THE EAST OF THE SITE AND

07:06:22 THEN THERE'S THAT PARKING GARAGE THAT'S CLOSER TO THE

07:06:25 EAST SIDE AS WELL.

07:06:27 BARNES AND NOBLE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

07:06:29 AND THEN THE LARGE GLASS OFFICE BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF

07:06:34 KENNEDY AND NORTH DALE MABRY.

07:06:41 SORRY ABOUT THAT.

07:06:42 WITH THAT BEING SAID YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED

07:06:44 BEFORE YOU DOES OUTLINE SECTION 27-129 GENERAL STANDARDS




07:06:47 FOR YOUR REVIEW, SECTION 132 WHICH ARE THE REGULATIONS

07:06:51 GOVERNING THE SPECIAL USES.

07:06:53 WITH THAT BEING SAID THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND

07:06:54 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND WE DO

07:06:57 FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA APPLICABLE CITY

07:06:59 OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.

07:07:01 THERE ARE SOME MINOR CORRECTIONS FOR THE SITE PLAN

07:07:03 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD THIS ORDINANCE BE

07:07:06 READ AND APPROVED, AND THOSE ARE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF

07:07:08 REPORT.

07:07:09 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

07:07:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:07:13 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

07:07:25 OKAY, THANK YOU.

07:07:25 APPLICANT.

07:07:26 >> MY NAME IS GRACE YANG.

07:07:28 I AM AT THE GRAY ROBINSON LAW FIRM AT 401 EAST JACKSON

07:07:33 STREET, SUITE 2700, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

07:07:37 IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BRING THIS APPLICATION BEFORE YOU

07:07:39 TODAY, TO REQUEST APPROVAL.

07:07:45 THIS IS A SINGLE BUILDING, TWO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES SAID

07:07:50 BY SIDE OPERATING RIGHT NOW, WITH THE HATCHERY

07:07:53 RESTAURANT, AND THE BRASS TAP.

07:07:57 PRIOR TO THE HATCHERY AND THE BRASS TAP BEING DEVELOPED

07:08:01 HERE, IT WAS THE OLD RUBY TUESDAY RESTAURANT.




07:08:06 AND MR. MANASSE MENTIONED THIS WAS A 4(COP-R) ZONING

07:08:14 UNDER ORDINANCE 93-200.

07:08:19 THIS REQUEST, WE ARE ADDING AN OUTDOOR PATIO WHICH YOU

07:08:23 SAW ON THE PRESENTATION.

07:08:25 THE OUTDOOR PATIO IS CURRENTLY ON THE SIDE KNOWN AS THE

07:08:29 BRASS TAP.

07:08:31 AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING PERMISSION TO HAVE

07:08:35 ALCOHOL SALES AND CONSUMPTION IN THAT OUTDOOR PATIO AREA,

07:08:40 IN ADDITION TO THE INTERIOR OCCUPIED BY THE BRASS TAP AND

07:08:45 HATCHERY UNDER A COMMON ROOF.

07:08:48 THEY ARE REQUESTING HAVING THE OUTDOOR PATIO APPROVED,

07:08:52 ALLOW TO BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES

07:08:58 AND PACKAGE SALES, OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.

07:09:02 THE BRASS TAP HAS A CRAFT BEER BAR AND WE WOULD

07:09:06 APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER PACKAGE SALES AS

07:09:09 WELL.

07:09:11 FOR THE BEER ENTHUSIAST TO VISIT.

07:09:15 I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THERE IS ONE WAIVER REQUIRED TO

07:09:18 ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET,

07:09:22 NORTH STERLING AVENUE.

07:09:25 THERE'S CURRENTLY AN EXISTING ACCESS FROM STERLING AVENUE

07:09:30 IN THE REAR OF THIS BUILDING THAT HAS OFFICE IN IT RIGHT

07:09:34 NOW.

07:09:35 I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

07:09:40 AND FROM THE COMPANY FRANCHISE --




07:09:47 >>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

07:09:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIT MS. YANG, THE OFF PREMISES SALE,

07:09:55 PACKAGE SALES, WILL THAT BE CONFINED TO BEER ONLY OR WILL

07:09:58 IT ALSO CONSIST OF HARD LIQUOR AND WINE?

07:10:02 >> IT CONSISTS OF HARD LIQUOR AND WINE UNDER THAN THE

07:10:05 LICENSE CATEGORY.

07:10:06 IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT WOULD BE A TOTAL LICENSE, FLORIDA

07:10:12 LICENSE FOR BEER, WINE AND SPIRITS.

07:10:15 THE CURRENT BUSINESS OF THE BRASS TAP IS A BEER BAR BUT

07:10:20 THEY DO ALSO HAVE A GREAT VARIETY OF BEER, AND THEIR

07:10:24 LICENSE WOULD ALLOW WINE.

07:10:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM TALKING FOR THE PACKAGE STORE.

07:10:32 WOULD THEY JUST BE SELLING GROWLERS OR BE SELLING WINE

07:10:36 AND LIQUOR TO TAKE OFF PREMISES?

07:10:39 >> THE LICENSE WOULD ALLOW SALES OF BOTTLES OF WINE,

07:10:45 GROWLERS, AS WELL AS OTHER SPIRITS IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO

07:10:49 SO.

07:10:55 CURRENTLY IT'S ON THE CRAFT BEER.

07:10:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:11:00 ANYBODY ELSE?

07:11:02 ALL RIGHT.

07:11:03 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

07:11:05 ITEM NUMBER 10?

07:11:06 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS

07:11:09 ITEM.




07:11:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE?

07:11:12 >>THE CLERK: THIS IS I LEAN ROB SAYER OWE, DEVELOPMENT

07:11:18 AND GROWTH.

07:11:19 THERE'S NO ONE TONE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

07:11:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY

07:11:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.

07:11:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:11:26 AYE.

07:11:27 WHERE DID I LEAVE OFF?

07:11:29 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

07:11:31 OKAY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

07:11:32 >>LUIS VIERA: I PRESENT FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION

07:11:44 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR

07:11:47 ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON

07:11:51 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISES LOCATION AND

07:11:54 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF

07:11:56 ALCOHOLIC CON DENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT

07:11:59 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 201 NORTH

07:12:02 DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY

07:12:05 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR

07:12:09 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING

07:12:14 ORDINANCE NUMBER 93-200, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

07:12:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND FROM

07:12:21 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

07:12:22 ROLL CALL.




07:12:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

07:12:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

07:12:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

07:12:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:12:32 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:12:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

07:12:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO,

07:12:38 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

07:12:40 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4 AT

07:12:43 9:30 A.M.

07:12:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN,.

07:12:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER.

07:12:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO

07:12:57 MS. YANG.

07:12:58 IT'S HAVEN'T SEAN HER IN MANY YEARS.

07:13:00 AND IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ARE BACK HERE AGAIN IN FRONT MUCH

07:13:05 COUNCIL.

07:13:05 >> THANK YOU.

07:13:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 11.

07:13:10 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

07:13:13 ITEM NUMBER 11, AB 2-20-12 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2223

07:13:18 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, SPECIFICALLY UNIT B-217.

07:13:23 AND IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.

07:13:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

07:13:27 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE SPEAKERS TO BE SWORN IN.




07:13:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANNE POLLACK NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.

07:13:39 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

07:13:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE SAME GOES FOR JONATHAN SCOTT

07:13:46 AND MR. KNOX WITH SWORN IN THIS MORNING SO YOU ARE GOOD.

07:13:50 GO AHEAD, FROM MANASSE.

07:13:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: AB 2-20-12, 2223 NORTH WESTSHORE

07:13:59 BOULEVARD, SUITE B-217, IS AT THE INTERNATIONAL MALL.

07:14:02 I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN.

07:14:05 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THE WELCOME.

07:14:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO.

07:14:07 GO AHEAD, SIR.

07:14:09 >>RYAN MANASSE: EXCELLENT.

07:14:10 AGAIN THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING SPECIAL USE

07:14:12 APPROVAL TO ALCOHOL BEVERAGE FOR BEER AND WINE ON

07:14:18 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.

07:14:21 THE PETITION IS 3,755 SQUARE FEET WHICH CONTAINS 2,868

07:14:25 SQUARE FEET INTERIOR AND 887 SQUARE FEET EXTERIOR.

07:14:31 THE PROPOSED USE FOR THE PROPERTY IS RESTAURANT AND

07:14:32 RETAIL SALES.

07:14:33 THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE ENTIRE SITE IS 5,659

07:14:36 SPACES, APPROVED IN FILE DE1-19-165.

07:14:42 THE PETITIONER'S REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE SPECIFIC AREA

07:14:45 IS 26 SPACES, AND IT'S WITHIN THAT OVERALL REQUIRED

07:14:48 PARKING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL MALL PROPERTY.

07:14:50 IT IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS CENTER AND




07:14:53 DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT OF 250 FEET FROM OTHER

07:14:56 RESIDENTIAL USES.

07:14:57 THERE ARE NO RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THAT 250-FOOT

07:15:00 SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.

07:15:01 THE SITE PLAN STATES THAT THE BUILDING SHALL NOT BE

07:15:04 LOCATED WITHIN THE PARKING OR LOADING AREA SPACE AND ALL

07:15:07 PERMITS AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 SHALL BE KEPT ON-SITE,

07:15:11 AND A COPY OF THAT ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE APPROVED SITE

07:15:13 PLAN, FROM SECTION 27-132.

07:15:17 I DO SEE THERE'S NO ACTIVATING PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY AND

07:15:20 THE HOURS THEY ARE REQUESTING ON THE SITE PLAN ARE

07:15:22 CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.

07:15:25 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED, AND THERE ARE NO

07:15:28 OTHER RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN 250 FEET, AND AGAIN THE

07:15:31 PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS CENTER,

07:15:33 ALSO IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY.

07:15:35 HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN.

07:15:37 AND SPECIFICALLY WE'LL SHOW YOU, IT'S ZOOMING OUT TO GIVE

07:15:42 YOU MORE REFERENCE.

07:15:44 THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AERIAL

07:15:51 OBVIOUSLY ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRE PROPERTY BUT THEN WE TRY

07:15:54 TO MARK IT A LITTLE BETTER SO YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE

07:15:57 IT'S LOCATED AT THAT INTERNATIONAL MALL.

07:16:04 THERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE FRONT AND REAR OF THE

07:16:06 SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE SUBJECT SITE.




07:16:08 AND AGAIN JUST FOR YOU AND THE STAFF REPORT, SECTION

07:16:11 27-129 FOR THE GENERAL STANDARDS IS OUTLINED FOR YOU FOR

07:16:15 YOUR REFERENCE AS WELL AS 27-132, EXAMINE THE REGULATIONS

07:16:18 GOVERNING SPECIAL USES.

07:16:21 OUR STAFF REPORT, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE

07:16:23 STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DOES FEIGNED IT

07:16:26 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.

07:16:28 WE DO REQUEST MINOR MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND

07:16:31 SECOND READING SHOULD IT BE APPROVED.

07:16:32 I DO BELIEVE THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICATION IS GOING TO

07:16:37 HAVE A MINOR MODIFICATION AS WELL, AND STAFF IS AWARE OF

07:16:41 IT AND WE ARE OKAY WITH IT.

07:16:42 BUT AT THE TIME, DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

07:16:46 STAFF?

07:16:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

07:16:50 OKAY.

07:16:51 GO AHEAD, MS. POLLACK.

07:16:54 >> CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?

07:17:18 TRY IT AGAIN.

07:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.

07:17:19 >> I APOLOGIZE.

07:17:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T SEE IT YET ON OUR END.

07:17:34 >> ANNE POLLACK: HERE WE GO.

07:17:43 OKAY.

07:17:45 WELL, ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT I AM




07:17:49 GOING TO START.

07:17:53 I AM HERE TONIGHT, ANNE POLLACK, 433 CENTRAL AVENUE,

07:17:57 ST. PETE, HERE REPRESENTING TAMPA WESTSHORE ASSOCIATES.

07:18:00 WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST A BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON

07:18:03 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES FOR A SITE ON BAY STREET.

07:18:08 IF YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN, I HOPE YOU CAN, THE OUTLINED

07:18:13 AREA IS WHERE THE SPACE IS.

07:18:16 IT'S LOCATED ON BAY STREET WITHIN THE INTERNATIONAL PLAZA

07:18:21 BETWEEN THE BACK OF RESTORATION HARDWARE AND THE BACK OF

07:18:25 THE PUB.

07:18:26 AN ENTRANCE BOTH ON ONE SIDE AND ON THE OTHER.

07:18:29 SO YOU CAN ENTER IT EITHER WAY.

07:18:33 IT'S GOING TO BE ITALIAN, A WINE BAR, CAFE, QUALITY WINES

07:18:43 AND LOCAL CRAFT BEER, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE

07:18:47 SALES OF WINE AND BEER FOR CONSUMPTION OFF-PREMISES.

07:18:52 ALSO BE SERVING LIGHT LUNCH AND DINNERS, INSPIRED BY

07:18:55 ITALIAN SPANISH CUISINE, AND THE CHEF HAS WORKED WITH

07:19:03 MANY CHEF AS ROUND THE WORLD.

07:19:07 SO OTHER THAN JUST HAVING DINNER AND WINE, EXPECT TO HAVE

07:19:13 WINE CLASSES, WINE PAIRED DINNERS, EVENINGS, AND MEET AND

07:19:17 GREET WITH WINE FOLKS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO MEET.

07:19:23 AS RYAN WENT THROUGH, IT'S A 3755 SQUARE FOOT AREA WITH

07:19:29 SMALL PATIOS, ONE ON EITHER SIDE, NO FULL KITCHEN. HOURS

07:19:32 OF OPERATION PER THE CODE AND PER THE LEASE, NO WAIVERS

07:19:37 REQUESTED WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS CENTER.




07:19:40 WE DO MEET THE REQUIRED PARKING.

07:19:42 THE ONE CHANGE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THAT FOR SOME

07:19:48 REASON OUR OCCUPANCY PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED ONLY

07:19:50 PROVIDED PARKING -- SEATING ON THE LARGER EXTERIOR PATIO,

07:19:56 AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PUT SEATING ON THE SMALLER

07:19:59 EXTERIOR PATIO.

07:20:00 SO THAT WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL 10 FEET FOR OCCUPANTS,

07:20:05 AND TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES, WHICH WE HAVE NO

07:20:07 PROBLEM MEETING, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT IN THE

07:20:12 MALL, LIKE 5900.

07:20:15 SO I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL, AND

07:20:19 WITH THE ADDITION OF THE EXTRA TEN SEATS AND THE TWO

07:20:24 PARKING SPOTS.

07:20:25 THANK YOU.

07:20:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM

07:20:29 COUNCIL MEMBERS?

07:20:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MS. POLLACK.

07:20:33 ARE THESE BEERS MADE SPECIFICALLY BY THIS RESTAURANT?

07:20:37 >> NO.

07:20:40 FROM LOCAL BREWERIES.

07:20:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THE WINES MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS

07:20:44 RESTAURANT?

07:20:44 >> I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE SOME COLLABORATION WITH

07:20:49 OTHER -- WITH SPECIFIC VINEYARDS AROUND THAT THEY ARE

07:20:55 WORKING WITH TO BRING IN THOSE WINES TO HERE, BUT I




07:20:57 BELIEVE THEY WILL BE SELLING THOSE WINES PLUS OTHER

07:21:00 WINES.

07:21:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

07:21:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO OTHER QUESTIONS?

07:21:10 IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

07:21:12 ITEM NUMBER 11?

07:21:15 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

07:21:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE GENERAL

07:21:19 PUBLIC?

07:21:23 >> THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO THIS

07:21:25 ITEM.

07:21:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM

07:21:27 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

07:21:29 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

07:21:31 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:21:32 AYE.

07:21:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, ARE YOU ABLE TO READ ITEM NUMBER

07:21:35 11?

07:21:40 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

07:21:42 CAN YOU READ NUMBER 11?

07:21:44 DO YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU?

07:21:46 >> NOT HANDY BUT I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

07:21:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

07:21:50 COUNCILMAN GUDES?

07:21:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE AB 2-20-12 PRESENTED FOR FIRST




07:22:04 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL

07:22:07 USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SEAMS SMALL VENUE

07:22:10 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES FOR

07:22:12 OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF

07:22:17 LAND AND BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT

07:22:21 OR TRACT OF LAND AT 2223 NORTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD UNIT

07:22:26 B-217 TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

07:22:29 SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

07:22:32 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN

07:22:33 EFFECTIVE DATE.

07:22:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

07:22:37 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

07:22:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST OF A QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

07:22:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?

07:22:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ACTUALLY, I KNOW WHAT?

07:22:47 I DON'T WANT TO TAINT THE RECORD SO COME BACK TO ME AFTER

07:22:49 THIS MOTION.

07:22:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A QUICK QUESTION AS TO THE ADDITION.

07:22:58 IS THAT NOTED ON THE REVISION SHEET OR JUST MADE BY MR.

07:23:03 MANASSE AS PART OF THE MOTION?

07:23:06 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THE REVISIONS ARE

07:23:08 BASED ON YOUR STAFF REPORT SO THEY ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT

07:23:10 THAN PROBABLY WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE REQUESTS BUT ON

07:23:13 PAGES YOU WILL SEE UNDER GENERAL REQUIREMENTS OF STAFF

07:23:18 PARTICULARLY FOR THIS PETITION, IT IS ON PAGE 2 AT THE




07:23:20 BOTTOM.

07:23:21 THERE ARE SOME MINOR CORRECTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED

07:23:23 FOR.

07:23:26 THE VERBAL REQUEST THAT ANNE STATED FOR THE RECORD WOULD

07:23:30 BE WHAT WE WANTED INCLUDED IN THE MOTION AS WELL, THE

07:23:34 FURTHER CORRECTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

07:23:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF

07:23:37 THE CLERK, I BELIEVE IT WAS --

07:23:41 >>RYAN MANASSE: IT'S TO ADD THE TEN OCCUPANTS TO THE

07:23:43 SMALL EXTERIOR PATIO WHICH IS NOT AFFECTING ANY PARKING,

07:23:47 SO REALLY IT'S JUST MODIFYING THE PARKING CALCULATIONS TO

07:23:51 INCLUDE THAT TWO EXTRA PARKING SPACES THAT ARE

07:23:55 SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED FOR THIS ESTABLISHMENT AND IT WILL

07:23:57 SHOW THE TEN OCCUPANTS ON THE OCCUPANCY PLAN THAT WILL BE

07:24:00 PRESENTED BEFORE YOU WITH THAT REVISION ON SECOND

07:24:02 READING.

07:24:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.

07:24:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

07:24:09 GUDES.

07:24:10 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

07:24:14 ROLL CALL VOTE.

07:24:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:24:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

07:24:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

07:24:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.




07:24:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

07:24:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:24:27 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO,

07:24:30 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

07:24:31 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

07:24:34 AT 9:30 A.M.

07:24:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:24:48 ITEM NUMBER 12.

07:24:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YES, SIR.

07:24:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, PERHAPS FOR

07:24:59 MR. MANASSE.

07:25:03 I REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD QUITE A FEW OF THOSE AB

07:25:08 APPLICATIONS COME IN FROM INTERNATIONAL PLAZA, AND I

07:25:11 ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST A HUGE WASTE OF TIME JUST

07:25:16 BECAUSE THEY ARE ENCOMPASSED WITHIN THE MALL, THEY HAVE

07:25:21 NO EFFECT ON NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MALL APPROVES THE LEASE,

07:25:26 ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

07:25:27 BUT I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE NO PROVISION

07:25:32 WITHIN OUR CODE TO ADDRESS THESE OPERATIONS.

07:25:39 SO RYAN, IS IT ANYTHING ANYBODY TALKED ABOUT OR THOUGHT

07:25:45 ABOUT?

07:25:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. DINGFELDER, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

07:25:50 ALL OF THE QUESTIONS PERHAPS ARE BETTER PERHAPS AFTER

07:25:54 SECOND READING, OR PERHAPS TALK WITH STAFF OFFLANE ABOUT

07:25:59 THIS IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE TO BRING




07:26:01 IT BACK.

07:26:02 I APPRECIATE THAT.

07:26:02 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

07:26:06 MR. DINGFELDER, I WILL JUST REMAINED YOU AS WELL THAT WE

07:26:09 DO HAVE AN AB WORKSHOP COMING UP AT THE END OF FEBRUARY

07:26:13 ON YOUR FEBRUARY 25th WORKSHOP AGENDA.

07:26:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID NOT REALIZE THAT, AND SUSAN,

07:26:19 YOU WILL HAVE TO REMIND ME ON THAT DATE.

07:26:25 THANK YOU.

07:26:28 THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.

07:26:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, ITEM NUMBER 12.

07:26:32 >>RYAN MANASSE: I BELIEVE THE AGENT WOULD HAVE TO BE

07:26:35 SWORN IN.

07:26:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND DO WE HAVE THE AGENT ON LINE?

07:26:42 WE HAVE MR. GRANDOFF.

07:26:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.

07:26:44 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)

07:26:53 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I DO.

07:26:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, MR. MANASSE, YOU ARE ALL GOOD

07:26:59 TO GO.

07:27:00 >>RYAN MANASSE: FILE AB 2-21-01.

07:27:04 IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

07:27:07 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE IT.

07:27:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.

07:27:16 GO AHEAD.




07:27:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: EXCELLENT.

07:27:18 SO AGAIN ITEM NUMBER 12, AB 2-21-01, IS BEFORE YOU

07:27:23 REQUESTING SPECIAL USE APPROVAL TO ALLOW FOR A SMALL

07:27:27 VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES

07:27:30 ONLY.

07:27:30 THIS PETITION IS PROPOSING A USE OF PRIVATE RECREATIONAL

07:27:34 FACILITY WITH A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 25,251 SQUARE FEET

07:27:39 INDOOR, 1,706 SQUARE FEET OUTDOORS FOR A TOTAL OF 26,957

07:27:44 SQUARE FEET WHICH AGAIN IS FIRST FLOOR ONLY.

07:27:47 THE SITE PLAN SHOWS SINGULAR ACCESS DRIVEWAY ON EAST

07:27:51 WASHINGTON STREET, AND THE PROPERTY IS ALONG A MIXED USE

07:27:54 CORRIDOR DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT OF 250 FEET FROM

07:27:57 RESIDENTIAL USES AND 250 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES

07:28:00 ESTABLISHMENTS.

07:28:01 THE SITE PLANS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU DOES STATE IT WILL

07:28:04 NOT BE LOCATED IN THE PARKING LOADING AREA OR SPACE, AND

07:28:07 THAT ALL PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011 SHALL

07:28:10 BE SEPTEMBER ON-SITE WITH BE THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE AND

07:28:13 THE APPROVED SITE PLAN.

07:28:14 AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN THERE IS NO CURRENT ACTIVE AB

07:28:17 PERMIT AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION SHALL LISTED IN THIS

07:28:19 CHART AS WELL AS YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND I WILL STATE IT

07:28:22 FOR THE RECORD, IT'S MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 11 A.M. TO

07:28:25 11 P.M., FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 11 A.M. TO 11 P.M. AND

07:28:29 SUNDAY 11 A.M. TO 12 A.M. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NEW




07:28:31 YEAR'S EVE AND SUPER BOWL, AND I BELIEVE SOMETHING GOT

07:28:34 CUT OFF THERE.

07:28:35 I APOLOGIZE.

07:28:36 SUPER BOWL, GASPARILLA, AND GASPARILLA WHICH WILL BE

07:28:40 11 A.M. TO 1 A.M.

07:28:42 AND THAT SHOULD REFLECT APPROPRIATELY IN THE STAFF

07:28:45 REPORT.

07:28:47 I THINK IT GOT CUT OFF.

07:28:49 BUT I WILL STALE IT FOR THE RECORD.

07:28:52 WAIVERS REQUESTED, THERE ARE NONE.

07:28:53 DISTANCE SEPARATION, WAIVERS, THERE IS NONE THERE AS

07:28:56 WELL.

07:28:56 AND AGAIN THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION

07:28:59 OF CMU-35 WHICH IS A MIXED USE LAND USE WHICH IS A MIXED

07:29:03 USE LAND USE WHICH QUALIFIES THE PARCEL BEING IN THAT

07:29:06 MIXED USE CORRIDOR VILLAGE WHICH IS WHERE WE DETERMINE

07:29:09 THAT DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.

07:29:11 THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN IS SINGULAR ACCESS ON WASHINGTON

07:29:15 STREET.

07:29:15 YOU CAN SEE LARGE PARKING AREA.

07:29:17 THIS IS A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE AND FIRST FLOOR BEING WHERE

07:29:20 THE ALCOHOL PETITION IS BEING REQUESTED BEFORE YOU.

07:29:24 HERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS OF THIS STRUCTURE.

07:29:36 THEN THE AERIAL.

07:29:37 YOU CAN SEE NEW CONSTRUCTION, THE SITE RIGHT HERE.




07:29:40 THERE'S SOME PHYSICAL PICTURES OF THE SITE.

07:29:42 THIS IS LOOK AT WASHINGTON STREET VIEWING SOUTH.

07:29:47 THEN NORTH SIDE WHICH IS NEAR THE CROSSTOWN AREA AND THEN

07:29:51 THE NORTH SAID WHICH IS NORTH, OVERGROWN VACANT AREA.

07:29:56 YOU CAN SEE THE GAS STATION OVER HERE THAT'S ON THE

07:29:58 CORNER.

07:30:01 LOOKING EAST ON WASHINGTON STREET.

07:30:02 AND THEN THE WEST VIEW OF WASHINGTON STREET.

07:30:08 AGAIN, SECTION 27-129 IS BEFORE YOU IN YOUR STAFF REPORT,

07:30:13 GENERAL STANDARD AS WELL AS 27-132 FOR REGULATIONS

07:30:17 GOVERNING SPECIAL USES, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID THE

07:30:20 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE

07:30:22 APPLICATION.

07:30:22 WE FEIGNED IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

07:30:24 APPLICABLE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND REFLECTED ON THE SITE

07:30:28 PLAN THE FIRST AND SECOND READING AS OUTLINED IN YOUR

07:30:31 STAFF REPORT.

07:30:31 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION IF

07:30:34 APPROVED.

07:30:34 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

07:30:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

07:30:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S SOUTH OF ADAMO?

07:30:44 >> SCROLL BACK UP.

07:30:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: I BELIEVE THIS IS THE WHERE ADAMO -- YOU

07:30:59 CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT.




07:31:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION BUILD?

07:31:07 >>RYAN MANASSE: I BELIEVE IT IS BUT I WILL REFER TO THE

07:31:10 AGENT TO DESCRIBE THE PROCESS.

07:31:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT USED TO BE ON WASHINGTON BOULEVARD,

07:31:15 THE OLD WTMP.

07:31:18 >> YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT LAND.

07:31:22 THESE AERIALS ARE AS NEW AS WE COULD GET AND YOU CAN SEE

07:31:25 THERE IS A LOT OF VACANCY AROUND THE AREA.

07:31:27 YES, SIR.

07:31:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:31:30 ANYTHING ELSE?

07:31:35 APPLICANT, MR. GRANDOFF.

07:31:36 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: GOOD EVENING.

07:31:39 MY OFFICE IS AT 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.

07:31:43 MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.

07:31:45 AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING THE EGYPT TEMPLE

07:31:51 SHRINERS WHO ARE A GOOD CITIZENS AND JOLLY GROUP OF

07:31:55 GENTLEMEN.

07:31:55 THEY HAVE BUILT THEIR NEW CLUBHOUSE HERE JUST EAST OF

07:31:59 50th STREET ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN, AS MR. GUDES

07:32:02 RECOGNIZED.

07:32:04 MR. MANASSE HAS VERY WELL DETAILED HIS STAFF REPORT AND

07:32:11 THE FINDINGS.

07:32:11 WE AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS AND THE BRIEF REVISION TO THE

07:32:14 SITE PLAN.




07:32:19 I DIRECT YOU TO PAGE 5 WHERE YOU FIND THE PROJECT IN

07:32:22 COMPLIANCE.

07:32:24 WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS FROM ANY OTHER CITY STAFF, NOR

07:32:28 NEIGHBORS.

07:32:28 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL ON BEHALF OF THE

07:32:33 SHRINERS.

07:32:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:32:34 DID YOU SAY A JOLLY GROUP?

07:32:37 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: VERY JOLLY GROUP.

07:32:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:32:39 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

07:32:41 THIS ITEM?

07:32:42 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS

07:32:44 ITEM.

07:32:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE?

07:32:59 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, OFF QUESTION, SIR?

07:33:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO ASK MR. GRANDOFF, I KNOW

07:33:05 HE'S A MEMBER OF THE KREWE.

07:33:10 I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S A SHRINER OR NOT.

07:33:12 BUT IF WE VOTE YES, WE GET THE LITTLE HATS?

07:33:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE, MR.

07:33:18 DINGFELDER.

07:33:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S A PROCESS.

07:33:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND NO, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONVERT.

07:33:27 >> I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE SHRINERS.




07:33:29 HE DOESN'T HAVE A FEZ.

07:33:31 I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE ME.

07:33:32 BUT THEY DO VERY GOOD WORK AND ARE VERY EXCITE BOARD OF

07:33:34 DIRECTOR THEIR NEW CLUBHOUSE.

07:33:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GRANDOFF, YOU ARE A NOTABLE MAN.

07:33:38 PUT IN YOUR APPLICATION.

07:33:39 >> I WOULD HAVE TO WEAR A FEZ.

07:33:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I DIDN'T HEAR IF THERE

07:33:49 WAS ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

07:33:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS NOBODY, SIR.

07:33:52 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

07:33:54 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

07:33:58 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:34:00 ANY OPPOSED?

07:34:02 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 12?

07:34:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:34:06 FILE AB 2-21-01, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST

07:34:11 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL

07:34:14 USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,

07:34:19 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE

07:34:23 OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE

07:34:27 AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF

07:34:31 LAND --

07:34:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, FORGIVE ME.

07:34:34 MY MISTAKE.




07:34:37 I APOLOGIZE.

07:34:38 MY MISTAKE.

07:34:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON THE OR CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OAR TRACT OF

07:34:46 LAND LOCATED AT 5017 EAST WASHINGTON STREET TAMPA,

07:34:49 FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 THAT

07:34:51 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCE IN CONFLICT BE

07:34:55 REPEALED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, WITH MINOR

07:34:57 MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND WITH

07:35:00 THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT HAVE BEEN NOTED.

07:35:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

07:35:07 CITRO.

07:35:07 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

07:35:09 ROLL CALL VOTE.

07:35:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:35:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

07:35:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

07:35:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

07:35:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

07:35:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:35:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

07:35:22 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

07:35:25 AT 9:30 A.M.

07:35:26 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE AND THANK YOU,

07:35:33 GENTLEMEN.

07:35:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND YOU ARE PRONOUNCING IT CORRECTLY,




07:35:36 MR. MANASSE, IT IS ADAMO.

07:35:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 13.

07:35:49 I SEE WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED PERSON TO SPEAK.

07:35:53 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE IN THE AUDIENCE OR ONLINE.

07:35:55 MR. CREW?

07:35:56 >>JIM CREW: CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

07:36:06 THEY AREN'T SIGNED IN.

07:36:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF AND WHEN THEY ARE SIGNED IN WE'LL

07:36:09 SWEAR THEM IN.

07:36:10 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 13?

07:36:22 AND THAT'S THE PERSON THAT I THINK IS REGISTERED.

07:36:24 IS IT DIXIE LIBERTY, SIR, MR. CREW?

07:36:31 I BELIEVE IT IS.

07:36:32 GO AHEAD, MR. MANASSE.

07:36:33 >>JIM CREW: THE ONLY PERSON REGISTERED FOR THE MEETING

07:36:38 INDICATED THEY WERE -- DIDN'T INDICATE THEY WERE THE

07:36:42 APPLICANT, JUST THAT THEY WERE REGISTERED.

07:36:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I ASK IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE

07:36:46 TESTIFYING OR REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, MR. CHAIRMAN?

07:36:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAW SOMEBODY SITTING DOWN IN THE

07:36:50 CORNER OF THE SECOND FLOOR, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE

07:36:55 HERE FOR THIS ITEM.

07:36:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE MAKE INQUIRIES?

07:36:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE?

07:37:01 >>THE CLERK: YES, WE DO.




07:37:02 WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT.

07:37:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU ARE.

07:37:04 MA'AM, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE SCREEN, RAISE YOUR RIGHT

07:37:06 HAND.

07:37:07 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.

07:37:08 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

07:37:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

07:37:15 ALL RIGHT, MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD.

07:37:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ITEM 13 IS

07:37:21 FILE AB 2-21-02, FOR 4808 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE.

07:37:31 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

07:37:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.

07:37:47 GO AHEAD, SIR.

07:37:48 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU.

07:37:49 THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS FOR SPECIAL USE TO ALLOW THE

07:37:52 SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE

07:37:55 AND LIQUOR PACKAGES SEAMS OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION ONLY.

07:37:58 THIS PETITION IS PROPOSING A USE OF RETAIL SHOPPERS GOODS

07:38:01 WITH AN AB SALES AREA OF 2nd 2000 SQUARE FEET INDOOR

07:38:04 ONLY.

07:38:05 THE SITE PLAN DOES INDICATE THAT THE PROPOSED HOURS OF

07:38:07 OPERATION WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 7 A.M. TO

07:38:11 3 A.M., AND THEN SUNDAY 11 A.M. TO 3 A.M.

07:38:14 THE SITE PLAN SHOWS DUAL ACCESS DRIVEWAYS ON EAST

07:38:17 BROADWAY AVENUE AND NORTH 14040thth STREET.




07:38:20 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN REFERENCE TO THIS SEPARATION

07:38:22 REQUIREMENT IS 1,000 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES AND OTHER

07:38:28 AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.

07:38:30 THE SITE PLAN DOES STATE THAT SALES WILL NOT BE LOCATED

07:38:32 WITHIN THE PARKING LOADING SPACE AND ALL SALES WILL BE

07:38:39 KEPT ON-SITE AS WELL AS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AND THAT

07:38:41 COMES DIRECTLY FROM SECTION 27-132 OF OUR CODE.

07:38:45 AS YOU SEE ON SCREEN, THERE IS AN ACTIVE ORDINANCE FROM

07:38:47 2010-19, FOR 2(APS) FOR BEER AND WINE PACKAGE SALES AND

07:38:54 APPROVED FOR 2,000 SQUARE FEET SO THAT IS THE EXISTING

07:38:57 PACKAGE STORE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

07:38:59 THE HOURS OF OPERATION WERE PER CITY CODE AND AGAIN OVER

07:39:05 HERE TO THE RIGHT ON THE SCREEN.

07:39:10 THEY ARE REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS FROM THE DISTANCE

07:39:12 SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS, ALL FROM SECTION 27-132 TO

07:39:16 REDUCE THE REQUIRED MINIMUM SEPARATION FROM 1,000 FEET TO

07:39:19 189 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, THE SECOND

07:39:22 BEING THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT FROM 1,000 FEET TO 88

07:39:25 FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THEN THE LAST IS THE DISTANCE

07:39:29 SEPARATION FROM 1,000 FEET TO 312 FEET FOR INSTITUTIONAL

07:39:32 USES.

07:39:33 AND THOSE USES ARE OUTLINED HERE IN THE NEXT BLOCK DOWN,

07:39:41 ZONED RM-16, AGAIN 88 FEET, USES OF CHURCH, AND THEN THE

07:39:48 CLOSEST AB SALES BROADWAY AVENUE.

07:39:51 THERE ARE NO HEART ROUTES ALONG THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.




07:39:55 THE SITE PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS LIKE AN EXISTING

07:39:58 CENTER, AND THEN THE EXISTING AB SALES AREA HERE OUTLINED

07:40:02 IN RED.

07:40:03 AGAIN THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS TRYING TO INCREASE THAT

07:40:05 FROM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR PACKAGE SALES ONLY.

07:40:08 THERE ARE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED,

07:40:11 THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

07:40:14 IF THIS IS APPROVED FIRST READING, BEFORE SECOND READING,

07:40:17 AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY

07:40:20 HERE JUST NORTH OF BROADWAY AVENUE.

07:40:24 THERE ARE SOME PHOTOS.

07:40:27 THAT'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

07:40:28 THEN THE AMSCOT OVER HERE.

07:40:30 THIS IS THE NORTH END OF THE SCATHE SITE FROM NORTH

07:40:33 49th STREET.

07:40:34 THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.

07:40:35 THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.

07:40:38 LOOKING WEST ON 7th AVENUE TO YOUR LEFT.

07:40:40 AND THEN WEST OF THE SITE ITSELF.

07:40:47 THAT'S THE PARKING LOT LOOKING EAST AND THEN THE EAST

07:40:49 SIDE EAST OF THE SITE.

07:40:53 AGAIN, SECTION 27-129 IS OUTLINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT

07:40:59 FOR GENERAL STANDARDS AS WELL AS SECTION 27-132 FOR YOUR

07:41:03 REGULATIONS GOVERNING SPECIAL USES.

07:41:06 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED




07:41:09 THE APPLICATION AND DO FEIGNED IT INCONSISTENT WITH

07:41:10 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.

07:41:13 AGAIN, MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN ARE NEEDED

07:41:15 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED

07:41:18 ON FIRST READING, AND IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR

07:41:20 MOTION.

07:41:20 AND THEN STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU

07:41:23 MAY HAVE.

07:41:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR.

07:41:26 MANASSE?

07:41:29 HEARING NONE, YES?

07:41:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S AMSCOT PLAZA?

07:41:50 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

07:41:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

07:41:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

07:42:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE PETITIONER.

07:42:13 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

07:42:14 GO AHEAD.

07:42:14 >> MY NAME IS DIXIE LIBERTY FROM RIVERVIEW, FLORIDA, HERE

07:42:21 ON BEHALF OF KALEE ENTERPRISES, INC, 4808 EAST BROADWAY

07:42:23 AVENUE.

07:42:24 IT'S ALREADY IN BUSINESS FOR A 2(APS).

07:42:28 HE'S ASKING TO GO TO A 3(PS)

07:42:31 PACKAGE STORE WITH BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON PREMISES

07:42:33 ONLY, AND 2,000 SQUARE FEET.




07:42:36 HE HAS 19 SPACES PROVIDED.

07:42:38 ONLY HAVE TO HAVE 16.

07:42:41 AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY.

07:42:43 NO ONE HAS CONTACTED ME.

07:42:48 I DID ZONE HIM BACK IN 2008 AND HE WAS APPROVED THEN, AND

07:42:52 I ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THREE WAIVERS WHICH MR. MANASSE

07:42:57 ALREADY MENTIONED THAT.

07:42:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?

07:43:07 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT

07:43:09 WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 13?

07:43:12 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS

07:43:16 ITEM.

07:43:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER, I SEE YOUR

07:43:18 HAND UP, SIR.

07:43:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A QUICK QUESTION.

07:43:22 TO RYAN.

07:43:23 RYAN, I AM HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE, AN EXISTING

07:43:32 BUILDING, AND THE CHURCH, THE CHURCH THAT'S CLOSE.

07:43:37 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

07:43:41 IT COMES FROM INSTITUTIONAL USES, RESIDENTIAL USES AND

07:43:46 OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN THAT THOUSAND FOOT

07:43:49 RADIUS.

07:43:50 THESE WHAT THAT WAIVER IS IDENTIFYING.

07:43:52 IT'S WITHIN THAT THOUSAND FEET.

07:43:58 TYPICALLY IT WAS AT 312 FEET.




07:44:00 AND BECAUSE THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT IS 1,000

07:44:02 FEET THEY HAVE TO PRESENT THAT BEFORE YOU AS A WAIVER.

07:44:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND THAT.

07:44:06 BUT CAN YOU SHOW GRAPHICALLY ANYTHING IN TERMS WHEREOF

07:44:11 THE CHURCH IS?

07:44:13 I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY REAL IMPACT OF THE

07:44:20 POTENTIAL IMPACT TO THE CHURCH.

07:44:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE

07:44:29 PETITIONER, I BELIEVE, IS STILL PRESENT BUT NOT ON

07:44:32 SCREEN.

07:44:34 PERHAPS IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE THE PETITIONER ON

07:44:36 SCREEN.

07:44:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE KEEP THE PETITIONER ON

07:44:40 SCREEN, PLEASE?

07:44:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

07:44:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ISN'T THAT NEW IDEA SCHOOL GOING UP?

07:44:51 >> I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

07:44:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I CAN ANSWER BOTH QUESTIONS, THE

07:45:04 SCHOOL I AM NOT AWARE OF.

07:45:06 THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY THIS FOR A SURVEYOR AND THEN THE

07:45:10 SURVEYOR I HAD FACE THE CLOSEST USES.

07:45:13 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IS NUMBER 1, OAK PARK BAPTIST CHURCH

07:45:16 AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.

07:45:21 YOU CAN SEE IF I ZOOM IN, SIR THERE.

07:45:23 WE GO.




07:45:23 AND THEN IT'S LOCATED OVER HERE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

07:45:26 AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUDES, I'M NOT SURE, AGAIN, THE

07:45:31 SURVEYOR HAS TO IDENTIFY THE CLOSEST USE THAT'S WITHIN

07:45:35 THERE TO IDENTIFY FOR THE WAIVER.

07:45:39 THERE MAY BE MORE OF THOSE USES WITHIN THAT 1,000 FEET

07:45:42 BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE SOME OF THE USES CAN GET

07:45:46 EXTENSIVE.

07:45:47 IT IS THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL.

07:45:49 I BELIEVE YOU CAN REQUEST THAT FROM THE AGENT, IF THAT R

07:45:52 THEIR SURVEYOR CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BETWEEN

07:45:57 FIRST AND SECOND READING TO SHOW ALL THE USES WITHIN A

07:46:00 THOUSAND FEET BUT IT GETS EXTENSIVE.

07:46:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IF YOU ARE

07:46:06 WITHIN THE THOUSAND FEET, I NOTICE, WHAT, 250 FEET FOR

07:46:12 THE WET ZONING?

07:46:15 IS THE CHURCH WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA FOR 250?

07:46:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: IT WOULD NOT BE SO YOU CAN SEE THE

07:46:22 OUTLINE RING THE SURVEYOR HAS PROVIDED AND THE SUBJECT

07:46:25 SITE AND THEN THEY ARE IDENTIFYING ONE OUTSIDE OF THAT

07:46:27 250 FEET.

07:46:28 BUT AGAIN THIS IS IN RELATION BEFORE YOU AS PART OF THE

07:46:32 APPLICANT PACKET AND THAT'S IN RELATION TO THE DISTANCE

07:46:34 SEPARATION REQUIREMENT, NOT THE PUBLIC NOTICE RADIUS

07:46:37 THAT'S REQUIRED BY CODE.

07:46:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MA'AM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONTACT WITH




07:46:43 THE CHURCH?

07:46:44 >> NO.

07:46:45 I TRIED CALLING THEM.

07:46:46 THEY NEVER RETURNED MY CALL.

07:46:52 I DROVE BY ALSO AND THEY WERE NOT OPEN.

07:46:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE

07:47:01 AND TELL ME I GUESS WHERE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND

07:47:05 TELL ME WHERE THE CHURCH IS AS RELATED TO IT, DOWN --

07:47:09 LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE DOWN AND AROUND THE CORNER TO THE

07:47:12 REAR?

07:47:12 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE BEST I CAN SHOW YOU, SIR, WAS -- LET

07:47:17 ME BACK UP -- IS THE EXHIBIT FROM THE SURVEYOR.

07:47:19 AGAIN THESE ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE SURVEYOR.

07:47:22 AS PART OF THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENT.

07:47:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I NOTICE, BUT I CAN'T SEE THE STREET

07:47:27 LAYOUT.

07:47:28 >> I CAN GOOGLE IT.

07:47:31 LET ME DO A LITTLE MAP FOR YOU.

07:47:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

07:47:38 IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSE.

07:47:39 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

07:47:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE SUBJECT SITE OFF OF BROADWAY AND

07:48:12 THEN NORTH ON 49th STREET ON 10th AVENUE.

07:48:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE AGAIN?

07:48:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: RIGHT HERE, SIR.




07:48:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE RED DO IT IS THE CHURCH?

07:48:32 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT.

07:48:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS A GOOD TWO BLOCKS BEHIND.

07:48:39 >> PER THE SURVEY DOCUMENT THEY ARE OUTSIDE THAT, AND 312

07:48:44 FEET.

07:48:44 THE WAY THAT'S MEASURED, COUNCILMAN, IS FROM THE POINT OF

07:48:47 THE ALCOHOL, THE CLOSEST POINT OF THE ALCOHOL

07:48:50 ESTABLISHMENT TO THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

07:48:53 SO THAT 312 FEET WOULD BE TO THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

07:49:04 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

07:49:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

07:49:10 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

07:49:13 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 13?

07:49:15 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS

07:49:21 ITEM.

07:49:21 >>THE CLERK: I LEAN.

07:49:32 THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

07:49:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY GUDES, CITRO.

07:49:38 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 13?

07:49:41 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE AB 2-21-02, ORDINANCE BEING

07:49:48 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE

07:49:50 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE

07:49:53 SALES, SMALL VENUE PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION

07:49:57 ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARD LUGS

07:49:59 OF ALCOHOL QUICK CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR FROM




07:50:03 THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 4808

07:50:07 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY

07:50:09 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

07:50:12 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE

07:50:15 NUMBER 2010-19, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

07:50:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

07:50:22 CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM VIERA?

07:50:26 ROLL CALL VOTE.

07:50:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

07:50:29 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

07:50:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.

07:50:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:50:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:50:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

07:50:44 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND DINGFELDER

07:50:46 VOTING NO.

07:50:48 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT.

07:50:49 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4, 9:30

07:50:53 A.M.

07:50:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:50:58 THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.

07:51:00 AND IT'S NOT EVEN 8:00.

07:51:02 ITEM NUMBER 15.

07:51:04 AND WE HAVE TO SWEAR IN MR. JIM PORTER, I BELIEVE. IF

07:51:15 YOU ARE ON, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.




07:51:18 >> IT'S NOT WORKING.

07:51:23 THERE WE GO.

07:51:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE ARE.

07:51:27 GO AHEAD, SIR.

07:51:28 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)

07:51:31 >> JIM PORTER: I DO.

07:51:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM MANASSE, GO AHEAD, SIR.

07:51:41 >>RYAN MANASSE: NUMBER 15 IS FILE AB 2-21-05.

07:51:45 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2205 WEST KENNEDY

07:51:48 BOULEVARD.

07:51:49 IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN.

07:52:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO.

07:52:06 GO AHEAD.

07:52:07 >> THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS REFLECTING ALCOHOL FOR A

07:52:10 SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES

07:52:13 ONLY.

07:52:13 THE PROPOSED USE IS A BAR WITH A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF

07:52:16 4,485 SQUARE FEET, 2,615 OF THAT BEING INDOOR AND THEN

07:52:21 1,870 SQUARE FEET BEING OUTDOOR.

07:52:25 ACCORDING TO THE FLOOR PLAN THERE'S A TOTAL OF 151

07:52:28 OCCUPANTS, THAT FLOOR PLAN WAS ATTACHED TO THE SITE PLAN

07:52:30 THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SENT OVER AND THE SITE PLAN DOES

07:52:33 INDICATE THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE

07:52:36 COMPLIANT WITH CHAPTER 14 OF OUR CODE.

07:52:38 THE SITE PLAN SHOWS AN ACTIVE DRIVEWAY ON WEST KENNEDY




07:52:41 BOULEVARD AS WELL AS ALLEY ACCESS ON SOUTHWEST LAWN

07:52:46 AVENUE.

07:52:46 REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE PROPOSED USE FOR BAR IS

07:52:49 OCCUPANCY MULTIPLIED BY .25 WHICH COMES TO THAT 151

07:52:56 PEOPLE TAMES POSITIVE .25 REQUIRING 38 PARKING SPACES AND

07:52:59 THERE ARE 21 SPACES BEING PROVIDED.

07:53:01 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ALONG AND THE DISTANCE

07:53:06 REQUIREMENT IS 25 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES 2ndAND

07:53:08 FEET FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.

07:53:12 THE SITE PLAN DOES STATE THAT THERE ARE NO SALES AREA

07:53:16 SHALL BE LOCATED WITHIN A PARKING LOADING AREA OR SPACE,

07:53:19 AND THAT ALL PERMITS ISSUED AFTER APRIL 1st, 2011

07:53:23 SHALL BE KEPT ON-SITE, A COPY OF THE APPROVED ORDINANCE

07:53:26 WITH THE SITE PLAN, AND 27-132 OF OUR CODE.

07:53:31 AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE IS AN ACTIVE ORDINANCE

07:53:33 THAT'S 2007-25 OR FILE VO 7-13 FOR A 4(COP-R) WHICH IS ON

07:53:41 PREMISES WITH N CONNECTION WITH A RESTAURANT.

07:53:43 THE TOTAL AREA BEING 3,895 SQUARE FEET, EXISTING AND

07:53:49 APPROVED WITH 2424th PARKING SPACES PROVIDED AND THE

07:53:51 SALES OUR BEING PER CITY CODE.

07:53:53 AND THEN THE REQUEST NEXT TO IT BEFORE YOU THAT I HAVE

07:53:57 ALREADY OUTLINED.

07:53:59 THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.

07:54:01 THE FIRST COMING FROM 27-282.7 AND THAT'S TO REDUCE THE

07:54:05 REQUIRED PARKING FROM 38 REQUIRED TO 21 BEING PROVIDED.




07:54:09 THAT'S 45% REDUCTION.

07:54:11 AND THEN THE LAST BEING DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS

07:54:13 FROM 27-132, THE REQUIREMENT OF 250 FEET TO RESIDENTIAL

07:54:18 USES BEING 30 FEET, AND THEN 250 FEET REQUIRED, TO OTHER

07:54:23 AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS TO 48 FEET.

07:54:25 THEN THOSE TWO CLOSEST USES, THE RESIDENTIAL USE BEING

07:54:31 WEST LAWN AVENUE, 30 FEET AGAIN, AND THE AB SALES AREA

07:54:37 BEING A CIRCLE K AT 2220 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, AND

07:54:42 2(APS) BEER AND WINE PACKAGE SALES ONLY AT 48 FEET.

07:54:46 AGAIN THE PROPERTY IS FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION UMU 607

07:54:49 WHICH IS A MIXED USE LAND USE WHICH QUALIFIES PARCELS TO

07:54:52 BE ALONG THAT MIXED USE CORRIDOR VILLAGE AND THAT'S

07:54:55 WHEREIN WE GET THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.

07:54:56 AGAIN, THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD

07:54:59 CORRIDOR OVERLAY.

07:55:01 AND THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

07:55:05 HERE IS SOUTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THE ACCESS HERE, AND

07:55:08 THEN THERE'S ALSO THE ACCESS THROUGH THAT ALLEY ON WEST

07:55:11 LAWN AVENUE.

07:55:12 THIS IS OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA WHICH IS OUTLINED HERE.

07:55:17 THAT'S BEYOND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

07:55:19 AND THEN THE EXISTING INTERIOR AREA.

07:55:22 THIS IS FIRST FLOOR ONLY.

07:55:26 AND THEN THE FLOOR PLAN IS WHERE WE GET THE OCCUPANCY

07:55:29 CALCULATIONS FOR THE REQUIRED PARKING.




07:55:32 THERE'S THE AERIAL OF THE SITE.

07:55:34 YOU SEE HOWARD HERE.

07:55:35 AND THEN WEST KENNEDY.

07:55:37 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.

07:55:39 THIS IS THE CIRCLE K.

07:55:41 THEN THE CLOSEST, THE RESIDENTIAL USE DIRECTLY TO THE

07:55:47 SOUTH ACROSS THE ALLEY.

07:55:48 HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE ON KENNEDY AND THEN THE

07:55:50 WEST SIDE OF THE SITE.

07:55:53 THIS IS THE VIEW LAG EAST ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND THEN

07:55:56 THE PICTURES TO THE RIGHT ARE EAST ON KENNEDY AND THEN

07:56:01 WEST.

07:56:04 NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET IS COMMERCIAL AS WELL.

07:56:07 THAT'S NORTH OF KENNEDY AND THEN THE SOUTH SIDE WHICH

07:56:09 WOULD BE THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL USE.

07:56:13 THE STAFF REPORT DOES OUTLINE AGAIN SECTION 27-129 INFORM

07:56:17 YOUR REFERENCE AS WELL AS 132 FOR THE REGULATIONS

07:56:22 GOVERNING THE SPECIAL USES.

07:56:23 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEWED AND COMPLIANCE STAFF DOES

07:56:25 FEIGNED IT INCONSISTENT IS THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA

07:56:28 CODE OF ORDINANCES.

07:56:29 IF APPROVED, THERE ARE MINOR CORRECTIONS NEEDED TO THE

07:56:31 SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AS OUTLINED IN

07:56:34 THE STAFF REPORT AND IF YOU WILL PLEASE MAKE THAT PART OF

07:56:36 YOUR MOTION IF APPROVED.




07:56:37 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

07:56:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN

07:56:42 DINGFELDER?

07:56:43 YES, SIR?

07:56:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MANASSE, AND SO THE QUESTION IS,

07:56:55 THE OCCUPANTS, DO THEY COUNT FOR TWO AND DOES THAT COUNT

07:57:00 FOR PARKING SPACE?

07:57:02 >> YOU TOOK MY JOKE.

07:57:05 >> CHASING HIS TAIL.

07:57:17 THAT'S REALLY DISTASTEFUL, MR. PORTER.

07:57:22 >> PORTER, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WATCHING YOU FROM MY

07:57:27 WINDOW.

07:57:28 I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.

07:57:30 I'M EXCITED TO BRING THIS ISSUE BEFORE YOU.

07:57:32 IT'S PART OF A RELATIVELY NEW CONCEPT IN A RELATIVELY OLD

07:57:35 BUILDING.

07:57:36 IT IS CALLED PUBLICATION PUB AND THE IDEA IS IT IS A

07:57:40 PLACE FOR PET OWNERS, TAKE CARE OF DOGS, AND HAVE A

07:57:44 DRINK.

07:57:45 THIS IS THE SITE OF THE OLD BUNGALOW RESTAURANT, YOU WILL

07:57:48 RECALL, AND THERE WAS AN ACTIVE LICENSE ON IT.

07:57:52 WHEN THE OWNER BOUGHT THIS, THEY HAD WERE GOING TO USE IT

07:57:57 AS A RESTAURANT AND A PLACE WHERE THE DOGS COULD GO.

07:57:59 BECAUSE OF STATE REGULATION WAS THE ANIMALS, THEY CAN'T

07:58:02 HAVE A FOOD OPERATION.




07:58:03 SO A BRAND NEW KITCHEN, IT'S A BUNGALOW, AND USE THAT.

07:58:08 SO WE WORKED WITH MR. MANASSE TO IDENTIFY THE APPROPRIATE

07:58:11 PROCESS THAT WE NEEDED TO GO THROUGH FOR THE AP LICENSE

07:58:16 AND THIS IS A SMALL VENUE.

07:58:18 THERE ARE WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT NOTHING HAS

07:58:22 REALLY CHANGED IN THE OPERATION.

07:58:23 IT WAS THE BUNGALOW BEFORE, THE RESIDENTS, THE ALLEY HAS

07:58:28 ALWAYS BEEN THERE, THE CIRCLE K, BUT THE PARKING AGAIN,

07:58:36 PLAYED AROUND WITH TRYING TO GET MORE SPACES BUT IT

07:58:38 SEEMED TO MAKE SENSE IN THE CONFIGURATION AS IT IS, AND

07:58:42 ASK FOR THE WAIVER.

07:58:43 WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION.

07:58:47 WE ARE OPERATING UNDER THE CURRENT LICENSE, AND ALLOWED

07:58:50 US TO WORK WITH THE OPERATION.

07:58:53 AGAIN IT'S A NEW CONCEPT, AND THEY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT

07:58:56 IT.

07:58:56 I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE OTHER ONE IN THE CITY BUT IT'S

07:58:59 DEFINITELY SOMETHING NEW FOR THE CITY.

07:59:00 WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND

07:59:02 RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

07:59:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMANMAN CITRO.

07:59:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

07:59:09 MR. PORTER, AT THE OUTSIDE PORTION WILL THERE SHALL

07:59:11 AMPLIFIED MUSIC?

07:59:13 >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, NO.




07:59:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO THAT IS A NO?

07:59:17 >> NO.

07:59:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, FOR COUNCILMAN CITRO.

07:59:23 JUST A REMINDER THAT THAT'S JUST A REPRESENTATION THAT

07:59:28 HAS NO WEIGHT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT

07:59:31 ENFORCEABLE.

07:59:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S WORTH A TRY.

07:59:34 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:59:34 >>RYAN MANASSE: JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT'S NOT STATED ON

07:59:41 THE SITE PLAN, NOT A REQUIREMENT OF 27-132 FOR THAT.

07:59:45 BUT AGAIN, JUST HAVING THE AGENT STATE THAT FOR THE

07:59:48 RECORD IS NOT GOING TO BE ENFORCEABLE LIKE MR. SHELBY

07:59:51 JUST STATES.

07:59:52 SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I NEEDED TO PUT ON THE SITE

07:59:54 PLAN, I WOULD NEED THAT CLEAR IN THE MOTION AS WELL ADDED

07:59:59 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

08:00:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

08:00:03 ANYTHING ELSE?

08:00:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT THE

08:00:13 NEIGHBORS MIGHT BE NEARBY.

08:00:15 MR. PORTER, DO YOUR CLIENTS HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ADDING

08:00:19 THAT?

08:00:21 >> I AM NOT AWARE OF -- I CAN ANSWER BETWEEN FIRST AND

08:00:28 SECOND READING.

08:00:28 THE FRONT IS FACING KENNEDY.




08:00:31 THERE'S A WALL THERE.

08:00:32 SO I WILL ASK THEM, AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT BETWEEN FIRST

08:00:36 AND SECOND READING.

08:00:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT USED TO BE A PATIO ON THE KENNEDY

08:00:44 SIDE.

08:00:45 DID THEY MAKE IT SOLID, ABSOLUTELY MAKE IT SOLID?

08:00:50 >> THERE'S STILL A PATIO BUT THERE'S A WALL THERE NOW.

08:00:55 IF YOU GO BACK, RYAN, GO BACK AND SHOW THE PHOTOS.

08:00:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF YOU CAN SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN.

08:01:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S THE ONLY OUTDOOR AREA IS OFF

08:01:05 THE KENNEDY SIDE?

08:01:07 >> JIM PORTER: YES.

08:01:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT IF

08:01:13 IT'S ON KENNEDY.

08:01:14 I THINK THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL.

08:01:18 >> THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL ON THE KENNEDY SIDE.

08:01:21 THE RESIDENTIAL IS ONLY IDENTIFIED IS ON THE WESTERN

08:01:24 SIDE.

08:01:29 SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE AGAIN OUTLINED IN RED.

08:01:31 COMMERCIAL ALONG KENNEDY.

08:01:32 AND THEN GOING SOUTH YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL.

08:01:37 JUST FOR THE RECORD SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, AGAIN,

08:01:40 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING ANY KIND OF CORRECTIONS

08:01:43 WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE IN ORDER TO BE HEARD AT SECOND

08:01:44 READING AND GET THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN OFF ON




08:01:47 THE SITE PLAN.

08:01:48 SO AGAIN FOR ANY MOTION I WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE, I KNOW

08:01:52 AGENT HAS TO SPEAK TO THE CLIENT BUT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE

08:01:54 TO ADD THAT AT SECOND READING PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE

08:01:58 WOULD BE PRESENTING WITH YOU A CERTIFIED SITE PLAN FOR

08:02:00 THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FROM TONIGHT'S HEARING.

08:02:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

08:02:08 MR. PORTER, YES, I AM CONCERNED WITH ENCROACHMENT INTO

08:02:10 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

08:02:12 IF THAT CAN BE DONE, AND YOU CAN ASK -- I WOULD HAVE TO

08:02:17 ASK THAT NOW.

08:02:19 IF YOU ARE SURE THAT THERE'S TO BE NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC

08:02:23 OUTSIDE, CAN WE PUT THAT IN THE RECORD FOR NOW?

08:02:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY, MR. CITRO.

08:02:29 THE REASON I AM GOING TO SAY NO IS BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT

08:02:33 WHATEVER REPRESENTATIONS ARE MADE HERE, IT DOES NOT RUN

08:02:36 WITH THE LAND, WHEREAS ON THE SITE PLAN IT RUNS WITH BE

08:02:39 THE LAND AND IT'S ENFORCEABLE.

08:02:42 SO WHAT MAY BE TRUE TODAY COULD CHANGE TOMORROW UNLESS

08:02:44 IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN.

08:02:45 AGAIN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

08:02:48 THANK YOU.

08:02:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

08:02:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, MR. PORTER,

08:02:55 A COUPLE MONTHS BACK WE DID APPROVE A SIMILAR DOGGY




08:02:59 ESTABLISHMENT IN DREW PARK.

08:03:02 >> YES.

08:03:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND DRIVEN BY.

08:03:06 >> IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.

08:03:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT

08:03:11 WISHES TO BE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

08:03:13 >> NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

08:03:15 >>> IS THERE ANYBODY DOWN BELOW ON THE SECOND FLOOR?

08:03:24 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

08:03:26 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

08:03:28 ALL IN FAVOR?

08:03:29 ANY OPPOSED?

08:03:31 COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS ITEM?

08:03:34 >>LUIS VIERA: I SURE WILL, MR. CHAIR.

08:03:36 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

08:03:38 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE

08:03:40 PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,

08:03:46 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE

08:03:48 OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CON DENT, BEER, WINE

08:03:52 AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND

08:03:55 LOCATED AT 2202 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS

08:03:59 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT

08:04:01 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE

08:04:04 REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2007-25 PROVIDING AN

08:04:08 EFFECTIVE DATE.




08:04:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

08:04:14 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

08:04:16 ROLL CALL.

08:04:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

08:04:20 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

08:04:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

08:04:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

08:04:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:

08:04:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

08:04:30 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT,

08:04:33 CITRO VOTING, NO SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD

08:04:35 ON MARCH 4 AT 9:30 A.M.

08:04:37 >> JIM PORTER: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

08:04:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND

08:04:43 FILE ALL DOCUMENTS VIERA, CITRO.

08:04:46 ALL IN FAVOR?

08:04:47 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

08:04:47 [SOUNDING GAVEL]

08:04:49 [MEETING ADJOURNED]

08:05:17

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