TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 2021
6:00 P.M.
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06:02:20 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
06:02:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
06:02:23 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
06:02:25 ORDER.
06:02:26 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
06:02:29 >> VIERA?
06:02:29 GUDES?
06:02:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
06:02:30 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
06:02:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
06:02:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
06:02:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
06:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
06:02:40 ALL RIGHT.
06:02:42 MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
06:02:47 >>THE CLERK: THERE IS A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
06:02:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE TURN YOUR MIKE ON, SIR.
06:02:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS WORKING BEFORE.
06:02:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IT IS.
06:02:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WONDERFUL.
06:02:59 THANK YOU.
06:02:59 TONIGHT IS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 11 OF 2021.
06:03:05 WE ARE AT OLD CITY HALL AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
06:03:09 TONIGHT'S MEETING, THE LAND USE RELATED MEETING OF THE
06:03:13 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT IS BEING HELD DURING THE
06:03:15 COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY AND IS BEING CONDUCTED LIVE
06:03:18 WITH AN IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL
06:03:21 CHAMBERS.
06:03:21 HOWEVER, IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS,
06:03:25 MEMBERS BE OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE
06:03:28 VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY
06:03:31 FLORIDA STATUTES IN RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA
06:03:33 TECHNOLOGY, OR CMT.
06:03:35 TONIGHT'S MEETING IS HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
06:03:38 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION
06:03:41 2020-225 AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020-490 AND AS MAY BE
06:03:48 AMENDED BY CITY COUNCIL.
06:03:50 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,
06:03:52 LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING TONIGHT ON CABLE TV,
06:03:55 SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND LIVE ON
06:03:59 THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
06:04:08 NOW, THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY TONIGHT ARE
06:04:12 ABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE PREREGISTERED FOLLOWING
06:04:15 THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT
06:04:21 TAMPA.GOV/QUASI, WHICH IS ALSO AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY
06:04:27 COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
06:04:32 NOW, THOSE WHO -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?
06:04:43 THOSE WHO ARE UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY, APPLICANTS
06:04:49 AND INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO APPEAR
06:04:51 IN PERSON USING VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGY BUT DON'T HAVE ACCESS
06:04:56 TO A DEVICE OR OTHERWISE UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE VIA CMT
06:04:59 MAY UTILIZE THE VIRTUAL FACILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO
06:05:03 THE PUBLIC, MADE AVAILABLE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THE
06:05:06 SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL.
06:05:09 PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING INSIDE
06:05:13 THE BUILDING ARE REQUIRED.
06:05:14 FINALLY, WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR E-MAIL HAVE
06:05:18 BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND ARE BEING INCLUDED
06:05:21 IN THE PERMANENT RECORD OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
06:05:24 ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS TIMELY RECEIVED BY MAIL, E-MAIL, OR
06:05:28 VIA CMT ARE AFFORDED EQUAL PROTECTION -- EXCUSE ME, EQUAL
06:05:32 CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE IN
06:05:35 PERSON.
06:05:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:05:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:05:39 ALL RIGHT.
06:05:42 WE DO HAVE A FOUR IN-PERSON QUORUM HERE.
06:05:47 IF ONE PERSON GETS UP, WE HAVE TO TAKE A RECESS, TAKE A
06:05:51 BREAK.
06:05:52 JUST RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
06:05:56 IF WE GET TO IT, WE GET TO IT.
06:05:58 ALL RIGHT.
06:05:59 WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS TONIGHT.
06:06:01 I KNOW ITEM NUMBER 1 THERE'S A WITHDRAWAL OF THIS
06:06:06 PETITION, IS THAT CORRECT?
06:06:10 >>THE CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.
06:06:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT ALL OR
06:06:14 DO WE JUST MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW?
06:06:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS MINISTERIAL, COUNCIL.
06:06:20 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS THE ACTION REQUESTED BY THE
06:06:24 APPLICANT, AND THEREFORE I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS
06:06:29 ABSTAINED ON CONTINUANCES IN THE PAST.
06:06:33 THIS IS NOT A CONTINUANCE.
06:06:34 THIS IS A WITHDRAWAL, AND, THEREFORE, IT IS UNDER FLORIDA
06:06:42 CONFLICT LAW, IT IS NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
06:06:45 BECAUSE IT'S MINISTERIAL IN NATURE, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR
06:06:48 HIM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE UPON IT, CONSIDERING WE HAVE FOUR
06:06:51 MEMBERS OF THE QUORUM PRESENT IN THE ROOM.
06:06:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:06:53 BEFORE WE DO, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN ITEMS ONE
06:06:56 THROUGH TEN?
06:06:57 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
06:06:59 MIRANDA.
06:07:00 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:07:01 AYE.
06:07:01 ALL RIGHT.
06:07:02 IF WE COULD JUST GET A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 1.
06:07:06 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:07:08 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
06:07:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:07:10 ANY OPPOSED?
06:07:11 ALL RIGHT.
06:07:14 WE HAVE REMOVED ITEM NUMBER 1.
06:07:17 ITEM NUMBER 7 CANNOT BE HEARD DUE TO A MISNOTICE.
06:07:23 CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 7?
06:07:26 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
06:07:29 CITRO.
06:07:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:07:31 ANY OPPOSED?
06:07:32 I BELIEVE THAT CLEARS UP THE AGENDA.
06:07:34 WE ARE DOWN TO 8 ITEMS THIS EVENING.
06:07:36 WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 2.
06:07:39 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS APPEARING IN PERSON AND THAT
06:07:42 THERE IS A TRANSLATOR.
06:07:44 JUST A HEADS UP THERE.
06:07:45 MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD.
06:07:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO MAKE
06:07:49 SURE THE RECORD IS COMPLETE, CAN WE HAVE BOTH THE
06:07:54 TRANSLATOR AND ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO NEEDS TO BE
06:07:57 SWORN IN, CAN WE DO THAT NOW.
06:08:00 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE
06:08:03 TRANSLATED SO THE PETITIONER UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS.
06:08:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:08:07 IF THE PETITIONER IS HERE AT THE KIOSK AND WE HAVE THE
06:08:13 TRANSLATOR, IF THEY'LL APPROACH THE KIOSK AND WE'LL SWEAR
06:08:17 YOU IN AT THIS TIME.
06:08:18 IF YOU ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN PERSON, PLEASE COME TO
06:08:20 THE KIOSK FOR ITEM 2.
06:08:28 >> THEY ARE STANDING AT THE KIOSK.
06:08:47 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
06:08:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHO IS TRANSLATING?
06:08:52 >> I AM, ELIZABETH ORTIZ.
06:08:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU SWEAR TO TRANSLATE FROM -- IS IT
06:08:59 GOING TO BE TRANSLATED FROM ENGLISH TO SPANISH OR FROM
06:09:01 SPANISH TO ENGLISH?
06:09:02 >> ENGLISH TO SPANISH.
06:09:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF HE SPEAKS, WILL YOU TRANSLATE BACK
06:09:07 FROM WHAT HE SAYS FROM SPANISH TO ENGLISH?
06:09:09 >> YES.
06:09:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ASK -- NOW, ARE YOU A FRIEND OR
06:09:21 RELATIVE OF THE APPLICANT?
06:09:22 >> NO.
06:09:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ASK THAT WHEN THE PRESENTATION IS
06:09:30 MADE, TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE TRANSLATOR WILL NEED
06:09:33 TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WHAT IS BEING SAID TO THE
06:09:39 APPLICANT.
06:09:40 SO PLEASE ALLOW FOR THAT.
06:09:43 IF YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO STOP, SEE IF YOU CAN EITHER
06:09:46 INTERRUPT OR RAISE YOUR HAND IF WE CAN CATCH THAT.
06:09:49 BUT THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AS ACCURATELY AS
06:09:52 POSSIBLE, HE UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THAT IF
06:09:57 HE IS TO TESTIFY, THEN TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE EXACTLY
06:10:01 OR ACCURATELY WHAT HE'S SAYING TO COUNCIL.
06:10:04 THANK YOU.
06:10:05 YOU CAN PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN.
06:10:06 I'M SO SORRY.
06:10:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:10:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:10:11 MR. MANASSE.
06:10:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:10:14 RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:10:16 ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE REZ 20-84.
06:10:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE RAISE HIS VOLUME?
06:10:24 >>RYAN MANASSE: ARE YOU NOT HEARING ME THAT WELL?
06:10:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
06:10:28 IF WE CAN INCREASE THE VOLUME MORE.
06:10:30 CAN YOU ALL HEAR HIM?
06:10:33 >> NO.
06:10:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE RAISE THE VOLUME FOR MR.
06:10:36 MANASSE?
06:10:40 >>RYAN MANASSE: TEST, TEST.
06:10:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
06:10:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:10:42 GO AHEAD, SIR.
06:10:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD EVENING.
06:10:44 RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:10:46 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-84.
06:10:50 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2513 AND 2515 NORTH
06:10:55 57th STREET.
06:10:56 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST
06:10:59 FROM RM-16 TO IG.
06:11:01 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.
06:11:04 AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
06:11:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE TRANSLATE THAT, PLEASE?
06:11:12 >> I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
06:11:14 HE WAS REALLY LOW.
06:11:16 HIS VOLUME WAS LOW.
06:11:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DIDN'T HEAR WHAT HE SAID.
06:11:19 >> NOT VERY CLEAR AT ALL.
06:11:20 NO.
06:11:30 >> GIVE ME A SECOND AND I'LL PUT MY HEADSET ON.
06:11:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
06:11:49 >> YES.
06:11:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE IS THE TRANSLATOR?
06:11:55 >> I'M RIGHT HERE.
06:12:00 >>RYAN MANASSE: I'LL START OVER.
06:12:02 RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:12:03 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS FILE REZ 20-84.
06:12:06 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2513 AND 2515 NORTH
06:12:10 57th STREET.
06:12:11 THE REQUEST BEFORE IS YOU EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST AND
06:12:15 FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO IG, INDUSTRIAL
06:12:20 GENERAL AND I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
06:12:23 THEN IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
06:12:29 >> YES.
06:12:32 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:12:34 I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN AND GET A CONFIRMATION THAT
06:12:37 EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME OKAY.
06:12:38 OKAY.
06:12:43 THIS IS ITEM 20-84, AS RYAN STATED.
06:12:48 IT IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:12:52 THE SURROUNDING AREA IS CHARACTERIZED BY A MIXTURE OF
06:12:56 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, SOME COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL AS
06:13:00 SOME RESIDENTIAL.
06:13:02 THERE IS APPROXIMATELY A TEN-ACRE PARCEL TO THE WEST OF
06:13:08 THE SUBJECT SITE THAT IS BEING UTILIZED FOR INDUSTRIAL
06:13:11 USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
06:13:13 THERE ARE SOME SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE EAST OF THE
06:13:18 SUBJECT SITE, BUT THOSE ARE -- THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF
06:13:22 THOSE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
06:13:24 SO THIS FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY IS SHOWN IN THE
06:13:32 SALMON-TYPE COLOR ON THE MAP.
06:13:34 THAT IS THE TRANSITIONAL USE 24 DESIGNATION.
06:13:37 THERE'S ALSO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH, NORTH OF EAST
06:13:40 COLUMBUS DRIVE, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE GRAY.
06:13:43 THE TRANSITIONAL USE 24 DESIGNATION IS A SPECIAL
06:13:51 DESIGNATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:13:53 IT ALLOWS FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF USES.
06:13:56 HOWEVER, THERE'S A CLEAR TREND IN THIS AREA THAT IT IS
06:14:00 TRANSITIONING TOWARDS MORE INDUSTRIAL USES AND THAT IS
06:14:03 VERY PRESENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA ALREADY.
06:14:06 SO WE DID FIND THAT THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:14:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:14:11 THESE COMMERCIAL USES WILL BE APPROPRIATELY BUFFERED FROM
06:14:14 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PER POLICY 15.2.4 AND THEN RYAN
06:14:21 MANASSE WILL FURTHER DISCUSS THAT FOR THE CODE
06:14:25 REQUIREMENTS.
06:14:25 SO, AGAIN, WE'RE REMOVING THE POTENTIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL
06:14:28 ON THE SITE.
06:14:30 THIS IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE TREND OF THE AREA TOWARD
06:14:32 INDUSTRIAL USES.
06:14:33 SO GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF PARCELS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR
06:14:36 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO THE NORTH, WEST OF THE SUBJECT
06:14:39 SITE, THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE
06:14:42 WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:14:44 UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
06:14:46 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:14:49 THANK YOU.
06:14:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME
06:14:51 FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
06:14:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA.
06:14:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:14:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT A QUESTION.
06:14:56 A COMMENT.
06:14:57 AS I LOOK AT THIS FROM NORTH 57th STREET, WHICH I GUESS
06:15:01 IS NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR, I CAN AGREE TO THAT TO THE
06:15:04 STATEMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE TO SOME DEGREE.
06:15:06 HOWEVER, FROM 58th STREET WEST -- 58th STREET TO THE
06:15:16 EAST.
06:15:17 THERE IS A PREPONDERANCE OF LARGE LOTS OF LAND THAT ARE
06:15:20 RM-16.
06:15:22 IF YOU LOOK DOWN TO THE CONE OF THAT -- CONTINUE GOING
06:15:25 EAST, THERE'S ANOTHER LARGE PIECE OF LAND THAT'S RM-16.
06:15:29 SO WHAT I'M ASKING MYSELF AND THE REST OF US, WHAT IS
06:15:33 GOING TO BE THE DESIGNATION?
06:15:35 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, BUT IF YOU LOOK AND
06:15:38 PUT THAT THEORY INTO EFFECT FROM 58th STREET EAST, NOT
06:15:44 FACTUAL ANYMORE, IN MY MIND.
06:15:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THEY CAN ALLOW THAT TO BE TRANSLATED.
06:15:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S NOT A QUESTION TO THE
06:15:56 PETITIONER.
06:15:56 IT'S A QUESTION TO THE STAFF.
06:16:02 >> I WAS ABLE TO TRANSLATE.
06:16:04 THANK YOU.
06:16:08 >> I WILL STATE THAT THERE IS POLICY LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN
06:16:10 THAT IS SEEKING TO -- WE LOOK AT EVERY REZONING REQUEST
06:16:15 IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION INDEPENDENTLY ON THE
06:16:19 SURROUNDING AREA.
06:16:21 ON NORTH 57th STREET, WE DO BELIEVE IT'S COMPATIBLE
06:16:24 GIVEN THE LARGE INDUSTRIAL PRESENCE TO THE WEST OF THE
06:16:27 SUBJECT SITE.
06:16:28 AS FAR AS A DEFINED PLAN FOR THE AREA TO THE EAST, WE
06:16:34 WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE THOSE AS THEY COME INTO US.
06:16:37 BUT I CERTAINLY HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR COMMENT ON
06:16:42 THAT.
06:16:42 I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
06:16:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:16:53 DO YOU NEED TO TRANSLATE THAT FOR THE GENTLEMAN OR NO?
06:16:58 >> [INAUDIBLE]
06:17:19 >> THANK YOU.
06:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
06:17:20 ALL RIGHT.
06:17:21 MS. MALONE, HAVE YOU FINISHED?
06:17:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, MY PRESENTATION IS COMPLETE.
06:17:26 THANK YOU.
06:17:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:17:28 THEN WE GO TO THE PETITIONER.
06:17:30 SIR?
06:17:30 OH, WAIT, MR. MANASSE, I'M SORRY.
06:17:34 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
06:17:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT, GO AHEAD.
06:17:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU.
06:17:43 ITEM NUMBER 2 AGAIN IS REZ 20-84 FOR 2513 AND 2515 NORTH
06:17:49 57th STREET.
06:17:50 AGAIN, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS RM-16 WHICH IS THE
06:17:53 CURRENT ZONING TO IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
06:17:56 AGAIN, THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST, THEREFORE
06:17:59 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS PERMITTED AND ALL USES MUST BE
06:18:02 PERMITTED.
06:18:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.
06:18:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:18:09 IS THAT DINGFELDER?
06:18:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
06:18:11 RYAN, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST YOU GO A LOT SLOWER.
06:18:15 UNLESS THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL TRANSLATOR, YOU KNOW, THE
06:18:19 PETITIONER NEEDS TO HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID.
06:18:22 EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO A LOT SLOWER.
06:18:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE.
06:18:33 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS THE CURRENT ZONING RM-16 AND
06:18:37 THE REQUEST IS ASKING TO GO TO IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
06:18:41 THIS IS ALSO A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST, THEREFORE,
06:18:54 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS PERMITTED THROUGH THIS REZONING.
06:18:57 APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR ANY IG USE PER
06:19:11 CHAPTER 20.
06:19:20 SUCH USE BEING MANUFACTURING, PROCESSING, ASSEMBLY,
06:19:26 WAREHOUSING, AND RELATED USES.
06:19:29 THE SITE AS IS .39 ACRES.
06:19:36 AND DIMENSIONAL -- THE DIMENSIONS ARE 102 FEET BY 180
06:19:43 FEET.
06:19:44 AND IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.
06:19:47 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY USES TO THE
06:19:54 EAST AND SOUTH IN RM-16.
06:19:58 THERE'S A TRUCKING BUSINESS TO THE WEST, AND THAT WOULD
06:20:08 BE ACROSS NORTH 57th.
06:20:11 AND AN EMPLOYMENT OFFICE TO THE NORTH IN IG ZONING
06:20:18 DISTRICT.
06:20:19 THE AERIAL ON SCREEN IN THE RED, THE RED DASHED LINE
06:20:28 SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, AND THERE ARE NO HISTORIC
06:20:34 LANDMARKS NATIONAL OR LOCAL WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, AND
06:20:38 THAT'S THE RADIUS YOU SEE.
06:20:39 NOW, WE'LL GO TO SOME PHOTOS.
06:20:51 THE CURRENT SITE IN THE TOP LEFT.
06:20:53 THE NORTH OF THE SITE ON COLUMBUS TO THE TOP RIGHT.
06:20:56 ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE VIEW LOOKING NORTH ON 57th
06:21:02 STREET.
06:21:05 THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT JENNIFER WAS REFERRING TO
06:21:09 OF THE INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE WEST.
06:21:11 THE BOTTOM RIGHT PHOTO IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE.
06:21:18 THE LEFT PHOTO IS EAST OF THE SITE ON 58th STREET.
06:21:26 THE RIGHT PHOTO WEST OF THE SITE ON 57th.
06:21:33 WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
06:21:39 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
06:21:46 THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
06:21:53 ORDINANCES.
06:21:54 AND MY STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:21:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
06:22:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. MANASSE, GOOD EVENING TO
06:22:05 YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
06:22:10 WHAT ARE THE USES BY RIGHT THAT THIS PETITIONER CAN USE
06:22:16 IN THIS PROPERTY?
06:22:17 JUST RATTLE OFF A FEW FOR MYSELF AND FOR THE PUBLIC.
06:22:21 >>RYAN MANASSE: SURE.
06:22:22 IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME PUT THE STAFF REPORT UP.
06:22:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:22:29 >>RYAN MANASSE: IN THE STAFF REPORT, I'VE ATTACHED ALL
06:22:31 THE IG USES.
06:22:34 THEY'LL BE IN YELLOW.
06:22:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DO HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, MR. MANASSE.
06:22:45 I WAS HOPING WE COULD EXPLAIN TO ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE
06:22:48 THAT MAY BE LOOKING -- BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THIS IS GOING
06:22:50 TO GO WITH THE PROPERTY.
06:22:51 IT'S NOT GOING TO GO WITH THE PETITIONER.
06:22:55 SO WE'VE HEARD THAT THIS AREA IS TRANSITIONING, BUT THERE
06:22:59 ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'M SEEING THAT THIS APPLICANT
06:23:03 CAN HAVE BY RIGHT THAT I'M NOT SURE WOULD FIT IN A
06:23:08 RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THIS IS ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
06:23:11 EXCUSE ME, LET ME REPHRASE IT.
06:23:12 THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS ABUTTING WILL BE
06:23:15 AFFECTED BY WHATEVER GOES HERE.
06:23:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT
06:23:21 COORDINATION.
06:23:21 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN CITRO, LET ME -- I'LL
06:23:25 JUST RATTLE OFF A FEW.
06:23:27 SO, FOR INSTANCE, SOME OF THE SCHOOLS ARE ALLOWED, AIR
06:23:33 CONDITIONED STORAGE.
06:23:34 WHAT I'M DOING, I'M GOING TOWARD THE LOWER END OF THE USE
06:23:37 CHART BECAUSE THOSE TEND TO BE THE MORE INTENSE USES.
06:23:42 AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THESE RELATED SPECIAL USES ARE
06:23:46 AUTHORIZED IN THERE, RESTAURANTS, CATERING SHOPS, CIGAR
06:23:55 FACTORIES, CORRECTIONAL FACILITY, DRY CLEANING PLANT, A
06:24:02 LARGE DRY-CLEANING PLANT, A SMALL.
06:24:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MANASSE, I JUST ASKED TO YOU RATTLE
06:24:11 OFF A FEW OF THEM.
06:24:13 I UNDERSTAND.
06:24:13 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
06:24:15 I SEE SOME ON HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW WOULD FIT IN WITH AN
06:24:18 ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE TELEPORT.
06:24:21 I'M NOT SO SURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT
06:24:25 HEAR HELICOPTERS LANDING NEXT TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL.
06:24:31 MARINA, THERE'S NO WATER NEAR THERE.
06:24:38 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR?
06:24:39 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF MY PRESENCE.
06:24:44 THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE ACCOMMODATION.
06:24:45 I HAD A FAMILY ISSUE SO I HAVE TO DO TONIGHT VIRTUALLY.
06:24:49 I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ACCOMMODATION.
06:24:50 THANK YOU.
06:24:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:24:52 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
06:25:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WAVING AT LUIS.
06:25:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, JOHN.
06:25:10 THANK YOU.
06:25:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, ARE YOU DONE?
06:25:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION, YES, SIR.
06:25:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPLICANT, GO AHEAD.
06:25:16 IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY OR PRESENT.
06:25:24 >> HE SAYS NO.
06:25:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BY
06:25:32 ANYONE?
06:25:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
06:25:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER.
06:25:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES ANYONE RECALL, RYAN OR JENNIFER,
06:25:45 WE HAD SOMETHING I THINK RIGHT ON THIS STREET LAST YEAR,
06:25:50 WAS IT A REZONING ON THAT LARGE PARCEL OR WAS IT A COMP
06:25:53 PLAN AMENDMENT ON THAT LARGE PARCEL?
06:25:56 ANYBODY RING A BELL ON THAT?
06:26:00 MAYBE IT WAS MY IMAGINATION.
06:26:05 MAYBE IT WAS SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO THERE.
06:26:06 I KNOW THAT WHOLE AREA IS IN TRANSITION.
06:26:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WAS, MR. DINGFELDER.
06:26:11 I THINK OFF OF BROADWAY.
06:26:13 I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
06:26:14 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
06:26:15 I REMEMBER THAT.
06:26:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
06:26:21 I'M FINE WITH THAT.
06:26:22 I ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION OR
06:26:24 DON'T KNOW YET.
06:26:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:26:26 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
06:26:29 ITEM NUMBER 2?
06:26:30 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS
06:26:33 ITEM.
06:26:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:26:34 ANYBODY IN THE ROOM?
06:26:36 >> THERE'S NO ONE IN THE ROOM TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
06:26:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
06:26:40 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:26:42 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
06:26:43 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:26:44 ALL IN FAVOR?
06:26:47 ALL RIGHT.
06:26:47 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 2.
06:26:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
06:26:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE, SIR.
06:26:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
06:26:57 I APPRECIATE THAT.
06:26:58 FILE NUMBER -- ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE REZ 20-84, ORDINANCE
06:27:07 BEING PRESENTED FOR THE FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
06:27:11 AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
06:27:13 VICINITY OF 2513 AND 2515 NORTH 57th STREET, IN THE
06:27:23 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
06:27:26 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16
06:27:29 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL),
06:27:33 PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:27:35 AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF, THE --
06:27:40 APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE
06:27:43 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS NOTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
06:27:46 STAFF.
06:27:46 THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WHICH ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT
06:27:50 THAT IS COMPARABLE, COMPARABLE, EXCUSE ME, TO THE
06:27:53 CHARACTERISTICS, THE SURROUNDING USES AND IT'S CONSISTENT
06:27:57 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER
06:28:01 TRANSITIONAL USE 24 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
06:28:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
06:28:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:28:09 ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
06:28:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:28:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:28:16 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
06:28:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED SIR.
06:28:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, YES, SI.
06:28:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:28:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:28:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OUI.
06:28:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:28:33 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:28:35 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th
06:28:38 AT 9:30 A.M.
06:28:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD WE SEE THE
06:28:43 TRANSLATOR AND MAKE SURE THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE
06:28:45 PETITIONER?
06:28:45 FORGIVE ME, BUT --
06:28:51 >> I EXPLAINED IT TO HIM.
06:28:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN.
06:28:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: VERY GOOD.
06:28:56 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:28:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:28:58 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
06:28:59 ITEM NUMBER 3.
06:29:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN NUMBER 3, RYAN MANASSE --
06:29:08 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE SIX INDIVIDUALS SIGNED ON TO SPEAK
06:29:12 FOR THE APPLICANT.
06:29:13 I WILL BRING THEM ON QUICKLY TO BE SWORN IN.
06:29:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:29:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.
06:29:44 >>THE CLERK: NOT YET.
06:29:46 OKAY.
06:30:15 THEY ARE ALL GIVEN ACCESS AND CAN COME ON WHEN THEY NEED
06:30:19 TO BE SWORN IN.
06:30:20 THANK YOU.
06:30:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 3, APPLICANTS, I KNOW
06:30:23 THERE ARE SEVERAL.
06:30:23 IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND MICROPHONE, WE'LL
06:30:26 SWEAR YOU IN.
06:30:27 I SEE MR. PETERIKA.
06:30:38 I SEE MR. HUDSON.
06:30:40 ARE THERE FOUR MORE INDIVIDUALS ON BEHALF OF THE
06:30:43 APPLICANT?
06:30:47 >> CHAIRMAN, YES.
06:30:51 WE NEED TO SWEAR IN AT LEAST NOAH ROLLINS.
06:30:54 HE WAS A PART OF OUR PRESENTATION.
06:30:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOAH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE TURN
06:30:58 YOUR CAMERA ON AND YOUR MICROPHONE SO WE CAN SEE YOU AND
06:31:02 SWEAR YOU IN.
06:31:03 NOAH ROLLINS.
06:31:21 ALL RIGHT.
06:31:21 IF YOU COULD ALL PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL
06:31:24 SWEAR YOU IN.
06:31:26 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
06:31:32 >>THE CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN
06:31:34 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
06:31:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:31:36 MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
06:31:39 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE.
06:31:41 ITEM 3, REZ 20-87.
06:31:44 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 311 NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE.
06:31:47 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION IG
06:31:50 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND
06:31:53 RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND THAT WITH A BONUS
06:31:57 PROVISION AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO 27-140 OF THE LAND
06:32:00 DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY FROM 2.5
06:32:04 F.A.R. TO A 3.25 F.A.R.
06:32:07 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.
06:32:09 IF YOU'D PLEASE RETURN TO ME SO I CAN FINISH MINE.
06:32:13 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
06:32:16 COMMISSION.
06:32:17 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
06:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:32:21 GO AHEAD.
06:32:22 WE CAN SEE IT.
06:32:22 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GREAT.
06:32:23 THIS IS FILE 20-87, AS RYAN STATED EARLIER.
06:32:27 IT IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE WEST
06:32:29 TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
06:32:31 IT IS OUTLINED IN PURPLE ON YOUR SCREEN.
06:32:34 THIS IS AN AERIAL.
06:32:34 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE
06:32:37 SUBJECT SITE.
06:32:38 WE ALSO HAVE THE CSX RAILROAD TO THE EAST AS WELL.
06:32:42 THERE'S A VARIETY OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS
06:32:46 AREA.
06:32:47 JULIAN B. LANE IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH.
06:32:49 I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT A SIMILAR REZONING WAS
06:32:52 APPROVED IN 2019 DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE WHERE
06:32:56 MY MOUSE -- I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE.
06:32:59 I WAS HOVERING OVER IT.
06:33:01 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS URBAN MIXED USE 60.
06:33:06 THAT IS THE LAND USE THAT CONTINUES NORTH.
06:33:08 IT'S THE LIGHT PURPLE.
06:33:09 THERE'S ALSO GENERAL MIXED USE 24 IN THE AREA AS WELL.
06:33:13 THE BLUE REPRESENTS PUBLIC.
06:33:15 THAT IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
06:33:17 AND THEN THERE'S URBAN MIXED USE 60 TO THE SOUTH OF THE
06:33:22 SUBJECT SITE ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
06:33:24 AS I'M SURE THIS COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR, THIS AREA HAS BEEN
06:33:28 TRANSITIONING FROM A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
06:33:30 TO MORE OF A MIXED USE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE LAST
06:33:34 DECADE OR SO.
06:33:35 THIS TRANSITION IS SUPPORTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:33:37 WE HAVE VERY CLEAR POLICIES TO SUPPORT THIS TRANSITION.
06:33:41 THIS AREA IS SERVED BY TRANSIT.
06:33:42 IT'S WITHIN PROXIMITY TO AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER, AND IT IS
06:33:48 -- THAT TRANSITION HAS BEEN SUPPORTED.
06:33:49 THE APPLICANT HAS MET THESE -- THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
06:33:54 POLICIES THAT RELATE TO DESIGN.
06:33:57 WE FOUND THAT THE ENTRYWAY, THE SIDEWALKS, THE
06:34:00 INTEGRATION OF THE PARKING GARAGE ARE ALL SUPPORTED BY
06:34:04 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES THAT SPEAK TO THOSE
06:34:08 DESIGN COMPONENTS IN THIS AREA.
06:34:10 SO WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT.
06:34:11 WE FOUND THAT THE PD SUPPORTS MANY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:34:14 PLAN POLICIES, AND THIS WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING
06:34:17 OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE
06:34:19 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SERVICES TO THE WEST TAMPA URBAN
06:34:22 VILLAGE.
06:34:22 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:34:24 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:34:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
06:34:27 NO.
06:34:29 MR. MANASSE?
06:34:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
06:34:33 IF YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE MY SCREEN.
06:34:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.
06:34:36 GO AHEAD.
06:34:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: EXCELLENT.
06:34:37 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE REZ 20-87.
06:34:41 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 311
06:34:44 NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE FROM IG ZONING DISTRICT TO PD
06:34:50 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOOD
06:34:55 ALONG WITH THE BONUS PROVISION.
06:34:56 THE PROPOSED WAIVERS ARE ON THE SCREEN.
06:34:58 THERE ARE SIX WAIVERS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
06:35:00 AND STAFF CAN GO INTO ANY OF THEM IF YOU HAVE ANY
06:35:05 QUESTIONS.
06:35:05 THE PROPERTY ITSELF, AGAIN, IS PROPOSED TO CONSTRUCT A
06:35:11 TOTAL OF 150 DWELLING UNITS AND 1,675 SQUARE FEET OF
06:35:15 CONVENIENCE GOODS RETAIL SALES USE.
06:35:17 THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES A 257,960-SQUARE-FOOT SIX-STORY
06:35:22 BUILDING WITH ATTACHED PARKING GARAGE.
06:35:24 THE 1.82-ACRE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY BUSINESS
06:35:29 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE AND IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST
06:35:32 CORNER OF THE WEST FIG STREET AND NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE
06:35:35 INTERSECTION.
06:35:35 THERE ARE OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE USES TO THE WEST, NORTH,
06:35:39 AND SOUTH IN IG ZONING DISTRICT.
06:35:42 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH, NORTHEAST, AND
06:35:44 THE PD ZONING DISTRICT, AND THAT'S FILE REZ-19-92, AND
06:35:50 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO THE EAST ACROSS CSX RAIL LINES
06:35:54 IN THE PDA ZONING DISTRICT.
06:35:56 FILE REZ 19-17.
06:35:58 THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT
06:36:01 AND COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 27-140 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
06:36:04 CODE OF ORDINANCES IS REQUIRED.
06:36:06 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS ARE NORTH 0 FEET, SOUTH 0
06:36:09 FEET, EAST 5 FEET.
06:36:11 AND WEST 0 FEET.
06:36:12 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 92 FEET.
06:36:15 AND THAT'S TWO STORIES PARK PODIUM AND SIX STORIES
06:36:20 RESIDENTIAL.
06:36:20 BASED ON THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND
06:36:23 BEDROOMS, A TOTAL OF 336 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND
06:36:26 294 ARE BEING PROVIDED.
06:36:28 AND THAT IS SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL WAIVER APPROVAL.
06:36:31 ALL PARKING IS PROPOSED WITHIN INTEGRATED PARKING GARAGE
06:36:35 WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY FROM THE TWO WAY
06:36:39 DRIVEWAYS ON NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE.
06:36:40 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
06:36:43 URBAN MIXED USE 60 AS JENNIFER STATED.
06:36:46 THAT DOES ALLOW THE DENSITY, INTENSITY OF 2.5 F.A.R. BY
06:36:49 RIGHT AND THE INTENSITY/DENSITY OF UP TO 3.25 F.A.R. WHEN
06:36:53 THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ARE MET.
06:36:54 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN INCREASE IN F.A.R. FROM THE 2.5
06:36:58 TO 3.25, AND THAT'S THROUGH THAT BONUS PROVISION
06:37:01 AGREEMENT IN WHICH THEY AGREE TO PAY THE BONUS AMOUNT OF
06:37:04 $728,218.26, AND THAT'S TO ACHIEVE THE INCREMENTAL BONUS.
06:37:10 THE ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS PRESENTED
06:37:12 CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS APPLICATION FOR EXECUTION OF THE
06:37:14 BONUS AGREEMENT.
06:37:15 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
06:37:20 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT IS THE CSX LINES, AS JENNIFER WAS
06:37:23 STATING.
06:37:24 AND NEWPORT AVENUE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.
06:37:27 THERE IS A LOCAL HISTORIC BUILDING WITHIN A THOUSAND
06:37:30 FEET.
06:37:31 IT'S THE METAL WORKS DICUS BUILDING AND THERE ARE NO
06:37:35 NATIONAL LANDMARKS WITHIN THIS THOUSAND FOOT RADIUS.
06:37:39 HERE IS THE FIRST PAGE OF THE SITE PLAN.
06:37:41 AND JUST BRIEFLY FROM MY PRESENTATION, HERE'S YOUR ACCESS
06:37:44 ON NEWPORT.
06:37:46 AND ALSO THE LOADING BERTHS, AND THEN IT'S THE INTEGRATED
06:37:51 PARKING GARAGE ALONG WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USES.
06:37:55 HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OR SOME SLIDES OF THE ELEVATIONS.
06:37:58 SO GOING FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM, THE NORTH
06:38:00 ELEVATION -- SOUTH -- SORRY, MY CAMERA -- WEST BEING AT
06:38:05 THE BOTTOM.
06:38:06 AND THEN THE EAST ELEVATION AT THE TOP.
06:38:08 SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
06:38:13 AND THEN ON THE LEFT SIDE, THIS IS THE NORTH END OF FIG
06:38:16 STREET.
06:38:17 THESE TWO PHOTOS ON TOP AND BOTTOM AND THEN THE WEST SIDE
06:38:19 OF NEWPORT ON TOP AND BOTTOM.
06:38:21 STARTING AT THE TOP LEFT, THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH ON
06:38:25 NEWPORT.
06:38:27 AND THEN WEST OF THE SITE ON NEWPORT, BELOW THAT, TOP
06:38:32 RIGHT, NORTHWEST OF THE SITE, CORNER OF FIG AND NEWPORT,
06:38:35 AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SITE, SOUTHWEST
06:38:38 CORNER OF FIG AND NEWPORT.
06:38:40 TOP LEFT PHOTO IS NORTH OF THE SITE, WHICH IS THE
06:38:44 NORTHEAST CORNER OF FIG AND NEWPORT.
06:38:46 TOP RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SITE, NORTHWEST CORNER OF FIG
06:38:49 AND GILCHRIST.
06:38:50 AND THEN BOTTOM PICTURE, NORTH SIDE VIEW LOOKING EAST ON
06:38:53 FIG.
06:38:54 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
06:38:58 THE PETITION, AND WE FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
06:39:00 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
06:39:03 PLEASE REFER TO THE FINDINGS PROVIDED BY TRANSPORTATION
06:39:06 AND NATURAL RESOURCES.
06:39:07 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
06:39:09 WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT AND THE APPLICATION
06:39:12 ITSELF, THERE ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN
06:39:15 FIRST AND SECOND READING PER THE REVISION SHEET.
06:39:18 AND MY STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
06:39:21 HAVE.
06:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DINGFELDER.
06:39:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:39:25 A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT IS GOING
06:39:30 TO CHIME IN ON THESE AS WELL.
06:39:33 I HAD TROUBLE SEEING.
06:39:39 THE SITE PLAN CAME UP KIND OF SMALL ON MY SCREEN.
06:39:42 I WAS SORT OF SURPRISED TO HEAR ABOUT 0 SETBACKS.
06:39:47 IS THERE A RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH SIDEWALKS AND THEN IT'S 0
06:39:53 SETBACKS FROM THE SIDEWALKS?
06:39:56 HOW IS THAT WORKING?
06:39:56 ALSO, IN REGARD TO TREES -- AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS
06:40:02 MR. PETERIKA AND I GUESS WE HAVE MR. BORS, I UNDERSTAND
06:40:09 THE TREE REMOVAL BECAUSE, CLEARLY, THEY ARE CLEARING THE
06:40:14 ENTIRE SITE AND USING THE ENTIRE SITE.
06:40:16 THAT SEEMS PRETTY OBVIOUS.
06:40:18 SO THE TREE REMOVAL PART IS NOT SURPRISING TO ME, BUT IN
06:40:22 TERMS OF TREE REPLACEMENT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S
06:40:24 ANY TREE REPLACEMENT ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
06:40:27 HOW DOES THAT WORK ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, ESPECIALLY ON THE
06:40:30 NORTH AND THE WEST RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH SEEMS TO BE RATHER
06:40:34 SIGNIFICANT?
06:40:37 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
06:40:38 I'LL DEFER THAT QUESTION WITH THE TREES TO -- I CAN DO
06:40:41 THE STAFF SIDE WITH BILL BORS.
06:40:44 AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS, THEY ARE LISTED BY THE APPLICANT
06:40:46 AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
06:40:48 I CAN LET THEM ANSWER THAT AS WELL ON THE NORTH SIDE.
06:40:53 JUST BRIEFLY, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PROPERTY LINE IS HERE,
06:40:55 THE DARKER DASHED.
06:40:56 I CAN TRY TO ZOOM IN FOR THAT IF THAT HELPS ANY.
06:40:59 AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THESE AREAS ARE LABELED LIKE THE
06:41:02 LOBBY.
06:41:03 YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY OUTLINED IN THE DARK
06:41:06 DASHED LINE.
06:41:07 THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THAT SETBACK IS COMING IN AT ZERO.
06:41:10 BUT I CAN LET MR. HUDSON EXPLAIN MORE OF THAT IN HIS
06:41:15 PRESENTATION.
06:41:15 AND THEN IF YOU'D LIKE, BILL BORS CAN COMMENT ON YOUR
06:41:20 FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES.
06:41:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BILL, BEFORE YOU COME ON AND PERHAPS
06:41:26 JONATHAN MIGHT WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS FROM
06:41:29 TRANSPORTATION STAFF, BUT I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A
06:41:32 FAIRLY CONSISTENT REQUEST FROM STAFF THAT -- AND TO HAVE
06:41:39 ACCESS TO THIS RAIL LINE THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE
06:41:41 ACCESS TO THIS RAIL LINE AND DOES THIS PROJECT ADDRESS
06:41:45 THAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM?
06:41:51 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
06:41:54 THEY ARE PROVIDING SIDEWALKS AROUND THE PROPERTY.
06:41:56 NOW, AS FAR AS BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR
06:41:58 THE RAIL LINE, THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING ANY ACCESS.
06:42:02 THERE'S STILL OPEN RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG FIG STREET AND ALSO
06:42:05 THAT STREET TO THE SOUTH THERE, THE NORTH B STREET I
06:42:08 BELIEVE THERE.
06:42:09 SO THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING ANY ACCESS TO THE RAIL LINE.
06:42:11 SO IT WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH ANY FUTURE PROJECTS, NOT
06:42:16 TRYING TO VACATE ANYTHING.
06:42:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
06:42:19 JONATHAN, ONE LAST QUESTION TO YOU THEN.
06:42:21 BEFORE WE GET TO BILL ON TREES.
06:42:24 $728,000, IS THAT EARMARKED FOR ANY PARTICULAR
06:42:30 TRANSPORTATION PROJECT?
06:42:34 >> YES, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED ONE PROJECT.
06:42:36 IT IS FOR THE WEST CYPRESS IMPROVEMENT CAPITAL PROJECT.
06:42:41 SO THAT HAS LIKE A PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
06:42:45 PHASE ONE IS LIKE FROM DALE MABRY TO HIMES AND PHASE TWO
06:42:48 IS FROM HIMES TO NORTH BOULEVARD.
06:42:49 AND THAT'S CONSISTS OF WIDENING AND RECONSTRUCTING
06:42:55 SIGNALIZATION, PROVIDING CONTINUOUS SIDEWALKS ON BOTH
06:42:58 SIDES.
06:42:58 SO THE PROJECT HAS GOT A LOT OF COMPLETE STREET ASPECTS
06:43:02 TO IT.
06:43:03 THAT'S THE PROJECT THEY HAVE EARMARKED IN OUR CAPITAL
06:43:05 IMPROVEMENT C.I.P. PROJECT.
06:43:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS PROJECT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE
06:43:10 RELATED TO PHASE TWO.
06:43:12 WHEN WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY EXPECT
06:43:15 PHASE TWO TO COME ALONG?
06:43:19 >> JONATHAN SCOTT: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY KNOWN
06:43:21 YET.
06:43:22 I JUST HAVE A FACT SHEET ON IT.
06:43:24 I THINK THE PHASE ONE IS TAKING PLACE REAL SOON.
06:43:26 PHASE TWO, I'M NOT VERY SURE ON EXACTLY WHEN THAT WILL
06:43:31 TAKE PLACE.
06:43:31 PROBABLY RIGHT, PROBABLY PHASE TWO, MORE OR LESS, IF THEY
06:43:35 CAN'T GET IT INTO THE PHASE ONE.
06:43:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BILL, WHAT ABOUT ON-SITE TREES?
06:43:43 >> WE LOOKED AT THIS CLOSELY AND THE APPLICANT IS GOING
06:43:47 TO PRESENT THE PLAN -- CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
06:43:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
06:43:52 >> THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO PRESENT A PLAN REVISING THE
06:43:56 PERIMETER THERE'S.
06:43:58 NATURAL RESOURCES WAS LOOKING FOR HEAVILY PLANTED
06:44:03 PERIMETER TREES.
06:44:04 THOSE ARE PART OF THE REPLACEMENT TREES.
06:44:06 PLAN THAT THERE ARE NOW 12 TREES SCHEDULED TO GO IN ALONG
06:44:12 THE NEWPORT SIDE.
06:44:15 SKY CLIMBER OAKS, FOUR INCH CALIPER, 16-FOOT IN HEIGHT.
06:44:21 WE WORKED WITH JONATHAN SCOTT WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT THEY
06:44:23 ARE PROPOSING, SIX-FOOT SIDEWALK WOULD BE PUSHED TO THE
06:44:27 CURB, SO WE HAD TO MAKE IT A FOOT WIDER, FIVE FEET TO SIX
06:44:31 FEET.
06:44:32 THAT WILL GIVE US 15 FEET OF GREENSPACE.
06:44:35 FOR ALL THE TREES ALONG NEWPORT.
06:44:40 AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE 12 TREES.
06:44:43 AND THEN ALONG FIG STREET, REAL NARROW STRIP LIKE YOU
06:44:50 COULD SEE THERE, GREENSPACE.
06:44:52 WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO INSTALL -- WHICH INCREASES
06:45:02 THE ROOT CAPACITY.
06:45:03 WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN GET TREES
06:45:06 GROWING INTO BIGGER ROOTING SPACE.
06:45:10 SO THEY ARE INSTALLED UNDERGROUND TO ALLOW THE ROOTS TO
06:45:13 GROW UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK, SPECIAL SOIL MIX.
06:45:16 AND IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT, BECAUSE THEY ARE OAKS, WE
06:45:21 WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SIDEWALK LIFTING ADJACENT TO ALL
06:45:24 THESE OAKS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
06:45:27 AND WE'LL PUT ROOT BARRIER IN THERE SO THAT THE ROOTS ARE
06:45:31 DEFLECTED FROM TRAVELING RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE WALKS AND
06:45:34 LIFTING THEM.
06:45:35 WE WANT THIS TO BE STABLE FOR THE LONG TERM, AND WE ALSO
06:45:39 WANT IT HEAVILY PLANTED.
06:45:42 THE OTHER BENCHMARK THAT THEY NEED TO MEET, IT'S IN THE
06:45:45 CODE THAT -- THERE HAS TO BE 80% OPACITY FOR THE
06:45:50 STATIONARY VEHICLES IN THE PARKING GARAGE.
06:45:54 THAT'S LEVEL ONE AND LEVEL TWO.
06:45:56 SO THAT'S PARTLY DONE WITH PLANT MATERIAL TREES, OAKS,
06:46:02 AND PROBABLY DONE WITH ARCHITECTURE, SO WE STUDIED THE
06:46:05 ELEVATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S 80% OPAQUE FROM VIEW
06:46:13 FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
06:46:13 THERE IS A NEW PLAN THAT THEY PROPOSED TO IMPLEMENT
06:46:20 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM
06:46:23 THIS PLAN THAT'S BEING VIEWED RIGHT NOW.
06:46:26 AND IT BASICALLY, WHEN WE SAW MORE TREE PLANTING AT THE
06:46:29 PERIMETER, HEAVIER TREE PLANTING, SO THAT WE CAN SOFTEN
06:46:32 THE IMPACT OF THIS STRUCTURE.
06:46:36 DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
06:46:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
06:46:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VERY COMPREHENSIVE, BUT SOUNDS LIKE
06:46:44 YOU'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE APPLICANT.
06:46:46 WE APPRECIATE IT.
06:46:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:46:50 >> RICKY PETERIKA MOSTLY.
06:46:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR JONATHAN.
06:46:58 THE BONUS AMOUNT, AND I'M LOOKING AT 311 NORTH NEWPORT.
06:47:05 YOU SAID THE MONEY WOULD GO TOWARDS CYPRESS?
06:47:09 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
06:47:11 THEY EARMARKED ONE OF OUR C.I.P., OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
06:47:17 PROJECTS, AND THAT IS THE WEST CYPRESS STREET IMPROVEMENT
06:47:21 PROJECT.
06:47:21 THAT THEY HAVE EARMARKED, BONUS TO GO TOWARDS.
06:47:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LOOKING AT WHERE NEWPORT IS TO WHERE
06:47:36 YOU'RE SAYING CYPRESS AND THE MONEY GOING THAT FAR OVER.
06:47:43 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
06:47:43 THEY TRIED TO PICK ONE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, OBVIOUSLY,
06:47:46 AND THAT'S WHEN -- AND THAT'S THE ONE THEY CAME UP WITH.
06:47:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
06:47:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
06:47:56 MR. MANASSE, ARE YOU THERE?
06:47:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
06:47:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE ASKING FOR WAIVERS
06:48:01 BUT IS THE DENSITY STILL COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
06:48:05 AREA?
06:48:07 >>RYAN MANASSE: SO STAFF OVERALL FOUND THE PLANNING
06:48:10 CONSISTENT BUT THAT'S BASED OFF THE TRANSPORTATION AND
06:48:12 NATURAL RESOURCES FINDING.
06:48:13 IN ORDER TO GET THE DENSITY, THEY ARE REQUIRING A BONUS
06:48:15 PROVISION AGREEMENT.
06:48:16 SO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL, THEN THE DENSITY
06:48:21 WOULD BE CORRECT.
06:48:22 AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING A BONUS, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT
06:48:27 PAYMENT INTO THE C.I.P. PROJECT COMES IN.
06:48:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE DENSITY IN THAT
06:48:32 AREA PER ACRE?
06:48:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: WITH THE BONUS?
06:48:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT THE BONUS.
06:48:39 I'M TRYING TO FIGURE BEFORE THE BONUS IS ASKED FOR,
06:48:42 BEFORE THE WAIVERS.
06:48:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: JENNIFER, DO YOU HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE
06:48:46 AND CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE DENSITY FOR THE FUTURE LAND
06:48:48 USE, PLEASE?
06:48:48 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SURE.
06:48:49 JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:48:53 I WILL LOOK, IN OUR STAFF REPORT, WE STATE THAT UNDER THE
06:48:57 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE SUBJECT SITE IS ELIGIBLE
06:48:59 FOR UP TO 109 DWELLING UNITS OR APPROXIMATELY 257,000
06:49:05 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL.
06:49:07 BUT PROJECTS, AND THEN PROJECTS IN THE LAND USE CATEGORY
06:49:15 CAN BE DETERMINED BY DENSITY OR F.A.R.
06:49:18 WE ALSO STATE LATER ON, THIS IS THE STATEMENT I WAS
06:49:21 LOOKING FOR.
06:49:21 ANY DEVELOPMENT EXCEEDING 91 DWELLING UNITS OR 198,430
06:49:26 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE BONUS
06:49:28 CRITERIA.
06:49:29 SO SINCE THEY'VE EXCEEDED THE 198,000 APPROXIMATELY
06:49:34 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS WHAT'S KICKING THEM
06:49:36 INTO THAT BONUS, AND CAN I CALCULATE -- ARE YOU
06:49:41 INTERESTED IN THE DENSITY WITHOUT THE BONUS?
06:49:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.
06:49:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MALONE.
06:49:47 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YOU'RE WELCOME.
06:49:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.
06:49:52 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:49:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:49:53 WE GO TO THE APPLICANT.
06:49:58 >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:50:01 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.
06:50:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:50:16 GO AHEAD.
06:50:18 >> YOU SEE A PowerPoint?
06:50:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE DO.
06:50:21 >> GREAT.
06:50:21 I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT.
06:50:24 THIS PROJECT BRINGS TOGETHER SOME OF THE TOP COMPANIES.
06:50:30 STANTEC IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER.
06:50:32 WE HAVE BEN ON THE LINE.
06:50:33 COLLIERS INTERNATIONAL.
06:50:35 DALE IS ON THE LINE.
06:50:37 PROJECT ENGINEER.
06:50:38 RICKY PETERIKA, DARK MOSS, CONSULTING ARBORIST IS HERE
06:50:43 WITH ME IN THE ROOM AS WELL AS OUR CHIEF PLANNER WHO IS
06:50:47 AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY.
06:50:48 TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE.
06:50:51 THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED BACK IN AUGUST.
06:50:53 WE WERE BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER IN CONNECTION WITH THE
06:50:55 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.
06:50:57 THAT WAS DENIED.
06:50:58 WE HEARD THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR AND MOVED QUICKLY TO
06:51:01 NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA A BONUS PAYMENT
06:51:04 AGREEMENT THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT WILL -- LITTLE
06:51:08 OVER $720,000 TO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE
06:51:12 NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
06:51:13 THIS WASN'T A PROJECT THAT WE GOT TO PICK.
06:51:16 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ON.
06:51:18 THERE ARE SOME LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT HE CAN DISCUSS
06:51:22 THAT THE MONEY HAS TO GO TOWARDS A, QUOTE, CAPITAL
06:51:25 IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, C.I.P., AND THIS ONE SEEMED TO BE
06:51:29 THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
06:51:30 TO BE CLEAR TODAY, WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A PD
06:51:33 REZONING TOGETHER WITH THE BONUS PAYMENT AGREEMENT.
06:51:35 THERE IS NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT'S PROPOSED
06:51:40 OR REQUIRED.
06:51:40 JUST TO REINFORCE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT RYAN ADDRESSED,
06:51:44 YOU CAN SEE HERE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, WHICH IS A DAY
06:51:47 CARE FOR DOGS.
06:51:48 THE SITE IS ABOUT 1.82 ACRES, THREE BLOCKS NORTH OF
06:51:52 KENNEDY.
06:51:53 IT'S A CHANGING AREA.
06:51:56 PREDOMINANTLY INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL.
06:51:58 IT'S EVOLVING INTO MULTIFAMILY.
06:51:59 I THINK WE CAN EXPECT THE EVOLUTION TO CONTINUE GIVEN THE
06:52:03 PROXIMITY TO THE KENNEDY CORRIDOR AS WELL AS THE
06:52:05 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
06:52:07 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS A PRIVATELY DEVELOPED HOUSING
06:52:12 DEVELOPMENT FOR STUDENTS.
06:52:17 THE STUDENT AND STUDENT HOUSING WILL BE ENFORCED THROUGH
06:52:19 LEASE RESTRICTIONS.
06:52:20 IT WILL NOT BE SPECIFIC TO ANY STUDENT BUT THE TENANTS
06:52:23 WILL NEED TO BE ENROLLED IN A POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION.
06:52:27 150 MULTI-BEDROOM UNITS.
06:52:30 WE DO HAVE A STREET-LEVEL RETAIL SPACE FOR CONVENIENCE,
06:52:34 CONVENIENCE STORE OR SMALL FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCEPT.
06:52:37 AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
06:52:38 AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT IS THE FARTHEST DOWN THE
06:52:41 STREET ON THE RIGHT.
06:52:42 AND AS BILL ALLUDED TO AND RICKY WILL DISCUSS
06:52:45 MOMENTARILY, WE HAVE REALLY WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE
06:52:48 THAT THIS PROMOTES THE URBAN CANOPY AND AS MANY HEALTHY
06:52:53 VIBRANT STREET TREES WE CAN.
06:52:55 FIRST, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INCONSISTENCIES.
06:52:57 WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE WAIVERS IN A SECOND.
06:52:58 BUT RYAN ALLUDED TO FINDINGS OF INCONSISTENCY FROM
06:53:02 NATURAL RESOURCES AND ALSO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL
06:53:04 SEE URBAN DESIGN.
06:53:06 WHAT I CAN TELL YOU HERE TODAY IS THAT WITH CHANGES MADE
06:53:09 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, IT IS OUR OPINION, AND
06:53:12 I BELIEVE THE OPINION OF STAFF THAT WE WILL BE CONSISTENT
06:53:16 WITH NATURAL RESOURCES AND URBAN DESIGN REQUIREMENTS
06:53:18 AFTER MAKING THOSE CHANGES.
06:53:20 ON TRANSPORTATION, WE ARE PURSUING A WAIVER AND WE'RE
06:53:22 GOING TO DISCUSS THAT IN A SECOND.
06:53:24 BUT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT NATURAL RESOURCES, URBAN
06:53:27 DESIGN, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THE
06:53:29 ISSUES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:53:31 LET'S JUMP INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WAIVERS.
06:53:33 THERE'S SIX WAIVERS THAT FALL INTO THREE BUCKETS.
06:53:37 LOADING, PARKING, AND TREES.
06:53:38 I'M GOING TO HANDLE THE FIRST TWO AND THEN HAND THINGS
06:53:41 OFF TO RICKY TO TALK ABOUT TREES.
06:53:43 THE THREE OF OUR SIX WAIVERS ALL RELATE TO LOADING.
06:53:46 NOW, WE HAVE TWO 12 BY 30 SPACES THAT CAN BE USED FOR
06:53:50 LOADING, BUT ONLY ONE OF THOSE COUNTS BECAUSE THE SECOND
06:53:54 BACKS UP TO A TRASH COMPACTOR.
06:53:56 THIS COUNCIL IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH LOADING BERTH
06:53:59 REDUCTION REQUESTS.
06:54:00 BECAUSE OF THE CYCLICAL AND PREDICTABLE NATURE OF STUDENT
06:54:03 HOUSING WITH CRAZY WEEKEND OF MOVE IN AND CRAZY WEEKEND
06:54:08 OF MOVE OUT, WE BELIEVE THAT THE LOADING INFRASTRUCTURE
06:54:10 IN PLACE IS APPROPRIATE.
06:54:12 WE CONSIDERED THE SHAPE OF THE SITE, TRAPEZOID, VAGUELY
06:54:20 TRIANGULAR, AND THE SIZE OF TWO 12 BY 60 LOADING BERTHS,
06:54:22 IT WAS OUR BELIEF THIS WAIVER IS JUSTIFIED FIRST FOR SOME
06:54:26 OF THE REASONS IN THE MEMO I PROVIDED TO YOUR OFFICES.
06:54:29 REALLY, A PRACTICAL JUSTICE OF NOT USING SO MUCH REAL
06:54:35 ESTATE FOR LOADING BERTHS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE SO
06:54:38 INFREQUENTLY UTILIZED.
06:54:39 I THINK THE PARKING REDUCTION IS WHAT YOU ALL SEE MOST
06:54:45 OFTEN.
06:54:45 CERTAINLY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REDUCTIONS ON SCREEN.
06:54:48 336 TO 294.
06:54:50 THIS IS A PROJECT FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HAVE A
06:54:53 CAR.
06:54:54 TAMPA HAS TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT.
06:54:55 THERE ARE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO BE
06:54:57 TRULY CAR OPTIONAL.
06:54:58 IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT GIVEN THE MAJORITY OF OUR TENANTS
06:55:01 EXPECTING TO BE UT STUDENTS AND JUST HOW CLOSE IT IS TO
06:55:04 UT, THIS IS GOING TO BE TRULY A CAR-OPTIONAL DEVELOPMENT
06:55:09 FOR A LOT OF STUDENTS, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN WALK,
06:55:12 BUT MICROMOBILITY, UBER, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO
06:55:15 HAVE BIKE PARKING THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE OVER A HUNDRED
06:55:18 BIKES.
06:55:20 AND YOU ARE NEAR A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU'LL WANT TO WALK
06:55:23 TO.
06:55:24 I'LL EXPAND ON THAT POINT IN A SECOND.
06:55:26 WE DO BELIEVE THAT OUR REDUCTION REQUEST IS IN LINE WITH
06:55:31 WHAT HAS BEEN GRANTED BY PRIOR COUNCILS.
06:55:33 THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT BINDING PRECEDENT ON YOU-ALL, BUT I
06:55:35 DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT THAT
06:55:38 THE PARCEL DUE TO THE NORTH OF US RECEIVED A 13%
06:55:42 REDUCTION.
06:55:43 FURTHER TO THE WEST, WHICH IS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE
06:55:45 UNIVERSITY AND THE DOWNTOWN CORE, YOU SEE REDUCTIONS OF
06:55:48 15%, 29%.
06:55:50 SO WE BELIEVE THAT OUR REDUCTION REQUEST OF 13% IS
06:55:53 CONSISTENT AND REASONABLE.
06:55:55 HERE I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
06:55:58 IF YOU GO TO WALK SCORE.COM.
06:56:01 I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S EXPERT TESTIMONY OR NOT, BUT I
06:56:04 THINK IT'S A FAIRLY POPULAR WEBSITE FOR DETERMINING THESE
06:56:07 TYPES OF THINGS, THE WALK RATINGS, 76, QUOTE, VERY
06:56:11 WALKABLE, 77 FOR VERY BIKEABLE.
06:56:14 DID YOU GUYS LOSE MY SCREEN.
06:56:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN STILL SEE IT.
06:56:23 IT'S ON THE WALKABILITY SLIDE.
06:56:25 >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
06:56:26 APOLOGIES.
06:56:26 YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP -- YOU ALL KNOW GENERALLY WHERE
06:56:30 THE SITE IS.
06:56:31 THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN WALK TO.
06:56:33 WE THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE TENANT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
06:56:36 PLENTY OF PARKING FOR THE FOLKS WHO WILL HAVE A CAR BUT
06:56:38 WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRULY CAR OPTIONAL
06:56:41 OFFERING AND MUCH-NEEDED GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO THE
06:56:44 UNIVERSITY.
06:56:44 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I THINK DISTINGUISHES THIS
06:56:47 DEAL THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH
06:56:49 THAT WE HAVE HAD.
06:56:50 WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, DOZENS OF PHONE CALLS, AND
06:56:56 LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS WITH VARIOUS COMMUNITY
06:56:58 LEADERS, NEIGHBORS, FOLKS WHO LIKE THE PROJECT, FOLKS WHO
06:57:01 WERE INITIALLY SKEPTICAL ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO
06:57:05 BE BRINGING NEIGHBORS TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THIS
06:57:07 DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HOLD THIS PROJECT.
06:57:10 THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOR A WHILE.
06:57:11 SO WE ARE ALREADY TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT
06:57:13 COLLABORATING ON PROJECTS LIKE INTERSECTION MURALS, OUR
06:57:17 BUILDING WILL HAVE SOME MURALS THAT WE WANT TO GET LOCAL
06:57:19 ARTIST SUPPORT FOR AS WELL AS A WELCOME SIGN TO THIS
06:57:23 NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS TRANSITIONING A GREAT DEAL.
06:57:26 I TALKED ABOUT THE BONUS PAYMENT.
06:57:27 THAT'S THE AMOUNT.
06:57:29 KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
06:57:32 HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
06:57:34 AGGREGATE IMPACT FEES ABOUT $1.8 MILLION FOR THIS
06:57:37 DEVELOPMENT, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BONUS PAYMENT
06:57:39 WHICH IS NOT AN IMPACT FEE.
06:57:41 AS A RESULT OF ALL THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WE'RE VERY
06:57:44 PROUD TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC
06:57:48 ASSOCIATION AND ALLIANCE.
06:57:49 LETTERS HAVE BEEN SENT TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL OFFICES AS WELL
06:57:52 AS UPLOADED INTO ACCELA.
06:57:54 WE'RE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF -- IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD, BUT
06:57:58 WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR BEING A PART OF THE
06:58:00 NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:58:00 WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO RICKY.
06:58:02 HE'LL TALK ABOUT TREES.
06:58:03 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:58:04 RICKY PETERIKA WITH DARK MOSS.
06:58:06 AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER NOTED, WITH TREE PRESERVATION ON
06:58:10 THIS SITE AND WITH THIS PROJECT, MINIMUM RETENTION WAS
06:58:15 UNABLE TO BE MET.
06:58:17 HOWEVER, TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF THAT CANOPY LOSS, THE
06:58:21 DESIGN TEAM WENT BACK AND FORTH ON SEVERAL ITERATIONS
06:58:27 WITH NATURAL RESOURCES, SPECIFICALLY BILL BORS TO DEVELOP
06:58:30 A MORE VIABLE STREETSCAPE WHERE LARGER TREES COULD BE
06:58:36 ESTABLISHED BY USING -- BY INCREASING GREENSPACE,
06:58:40 ENLARGING SIDEWALKS AND INCLUDING STRUCTURAL SOIL SYSTEMS
06:58:43 TO IMPROVE STREET TREE PLANTING.
06:58:46 WE'RE MEETING THE MAJORITY OF THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS
06:58:49 REQUIRED FOR THE TREE REMOVAL.
06:58:52 ADDITIONALLY, USING THE NEW PROVISION IN THE TREE CODE OF
06:58:57 THE TREE PLANTING PERMIT FOR MITIGATION TREES.
06:59:01 WE'RE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO IDENTIFY CANDIDATE
06:59:05 SPOTS TO PLANT THE REMAINDER OF THE MITIGATION TREES.
06:59:11 SO THE WAIVER REQUEST FOR THE IN LIEU FEE PAYMENT IS
06:59:14 THERE ONLY AS A SAFETY NET, ASSUMING SOMETHING CAN'T BE
06:59:18 ARRANGED.
06:59:18 BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING NO NET LOSS OF CANOPY
06:59:23 TO THE NORTH HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:59:27 >> THANKS, RICKY.
06:59:28 BRIEFLY, I'D NOAH ROLLINS FOR GENSLER TO CHAT A LITTLE
06:59:32 BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN.
06:59:32 ON SCREEN NOW IS A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT.
06:59:33 NOAH, IF YOU CAN CHAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN
06:59:33 PHILOSOPHY BEHIND THIS.
06:59:33 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JIM CREW, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, IF I MAY
06:59:33 INTERRUPT AND PAUSE FOR A MOMENT.
06:59:34 THERE WERE THREE ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE
06:59:34 APPLICANT WHO WERE NOT ON SCREEN AT THE BEGINNING TO BE
06:59:49 SWORN IN.
06:59:50 AND THAT IS PRUETT, STIGAMIER, AND HORNER.
06:59:59 >> IF IT'S OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO WRAP UP OUR
07:00:01 PRESENTATION.
07:00:02 THOSE GENTLEMEN ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR TEAM BUT REALLY
07:00:04 HERE TO ANSWER ANY SUBJECTS, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
07:00:07 IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO WRAP UP QUICKLY.
07:00:09 I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG NIGHT.
07:00:11 DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU?
07:00:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
07:00:17 >> NOAH, CAN YOU CHAT A LITTLE BIT.
07:00:18 WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES LEFT.
07:00:20 CHAT ABOUT THE DESIGN PHILOSOPHY HERE.
07:00:22 >> SURE, IF YOU DON'T MAXIMIZING AGAIN.
07:00:25 NOAH ROLLINS, PROJECT DESIGNER WITH GENSLER, WEST ALFRED
07:00:28 STREET.
07:00:29 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH YOU AT A SAFE
07:00:32 DISTANCE.
07:00:33 I'M REALLY PROUD TO SHARE THIS PROJECT WITH YOU.
07:00:36 THERE'S A JUST A FEW ELEMENTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE.
07:00:38 I KNOW WE'RE REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT A REZONING, BUT
07:00:41 IT'S HARD NOT TO GET AN ARCHITECT EXCITED ABOUT TALKING
07:00:44 ABOUT THE DESIGN WE'RE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY.
07:00:46 JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING REALLY WITH AN
07:00:48 EYE TOWARD THE HISTORY OF THE DISTRICTS AROUND HERE AS
07:00:51 WELL AS THE FUTURE.
07:00:53 ONE ELEMENT, AND IT'S BEEN TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT IN THE
07:00:55 PLAN.
07:00:56 WE REALLY TRIED TO ORIENT THE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO OUR
07:01:01 SITE ALONG THE NORTH NEWPORT AND ENCOURAGING VEHICULAR
07:01:08 ACCESS TO NORTH B.
07:01:09 GARAGE ENTRY TO THE FAR SOUTH.
07:01:11 YOU CAN SEE THE BERTH A LITTLE CLOSER.
07:01:13 WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ORIENT THE PROJECT.
07:01:17 LOBBY, RETAIL, BALCONIES TOWARD FIG BEING REALLY MORE OF
07:01:20 A PEDESTRIAN, BICYCLE, NON-VEHICULAR ENCOURAGING ARTERY
07:01:25 TODAY AND CERTAINLY THINKING TOWARD THE FUTURE WHERE WE
07:01:28 HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE ENHANCED CONNECTIVITY OF FIG
07:01:32 TO THE CSX DEVELOPMENTS THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE TO
07:01:35 THE CAMPUS BEYOND.
07:01:38 SECOND ELEMENT YOU'LL SORT OF SEE IN THE KIND OF SCALE
07:01:41 AND MASSING OF THE BUILDING.
07:01:43 WHILE IT IS SIX RESIDENTIAL ABOVE A TWO-STORY PODIUM, WE
07:01:46 HAVE ATTEMPTED TO REALLY STEP AND SCALE THAT
07:01:49 ARCHITECTURE, PARTICULARLY OUR PARKING PODIUM TO HAVE A
07:01:53 BIT OF RESPECT TO SOME OF THE CONTEXT THAT WILL CONTINUE
07:01:56 TO EXIST AROUND HERE, THE SORT OF 25-FOOT INDUSTRIAL --
07:02:01 SOME OF THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO
07:02:03 BE HERE, WE HOPE, IN THIS DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:02:05 ALSO, WE ARE WORKING WITH CLIENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
07:02:09 DEVELOPING A DESIGN THAT USES THE BUILDING MATERIALS AND
07:02:13 THE PROPORTIONS OF THE OPENINGS IN THE BUILDING THAT ARE
07:02:15 VERY RESPECTFUL OF HISTORIC WAREHOUSE AND CIGAR FACTORY
07:02:20 AND STRUCTURES LIKE THAT AS WELL AS MAINTAINING A
07:02:23 CONTEMPORARY AND FUTURE LEANING LOOK.
07:02:26 LASTLY, REALLY EXCITED TO MENTION AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW
07:02:30 WE DESIGN THESE PROJECTS FOR THE LONG-TERM IN OUR CITIES,
07:02:33 WE HAVE DEVELOPED THIS AS A RESILIENT CAST IN PLACE
07:02:36 CONCRETE STRUCTURE.
07:02:37 IT IS A FLAT SLAB PARKING GARAGE WITH THE RAMP
07:02:40 ESSENTIALLY TUCKED INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
07:02:42 THAT ALLOWS US TO THINK ABOUT A FUTURE WHERE WE HOPE
07:02:46 THERE'S LESS RESILIENCE ON VEHICLES, AND AS YOU START TO
07:02:49 PEEL AWAY PARKING SPACES WITHIN, THE BUILDING COULD BE
07:02:53 ADAPTED IN THE FUTURE WHERE YOU START TO PLUG MORE
07:02:56 STREET-LEVEL RETAIL IN AS WE ALL HOPE THE CAR BECOMES
07:03:01 LESS SIGNIFICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPS AROUND IT.
07:03:04 THANK YOU.
07:03:04 >> THANK YOU, NOAH.
07:03:05 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
07:03:08 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
07:03:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DINGFELDER.
07:03:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:03:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY MICROPHONE BUTTON.
07:03:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE GOOD.
07:03:23 GO AHEAD.
07:03:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, TYLER, AND YOUR TEAM.
07:03:31 IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT.
07:03:32 WELL DESIGNED.
07:03:34 I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IS IT A LEED CERTIFIED BUILDING IN
07:03:41 THE CITY CODE WE HAVE INCENTIVES FOR LEED CERTIFIED
07:03:47 PROJECTS, AND HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE'LL HAVE MORE
07:03:50 INCENTIVES WORKING WITH BEAMER AND STUFF.
07:03:54 ANYWAY, I'M CURIOUS, BRAND-NEW MODERN BUILDING LIKE THAT
07:03:58 FOR MODERN STUDENTS, WISH MY DORMITORY IN GAINESVILLE HAD
07:04:04 LOOKED THAT NICE.
07:04:05 ANYWAY, TYLER, ANY COMMENTS ON THE LEED ASPECT OF THIS?
07:04:10 YOU HAVE SOLAR ON THE ROOF OR ANYTHING?
07:04:12 >> THANKS, COUNCILOR.
07:04:14 I AM GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE ARCHITECT AND SEE WHERE
07:04:18 WE ARE IN DESIGNS.
07:04:19 NOAH, IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT, PLEASE.
07:04:22 >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.
07:04:25 I ALSO WISH MY GAINESVILLE DORM HAD BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR
07:04:29 THIS QUALITY.
07:04:29 IT IS NOT CURRENTLY PURSUED AS LEED CERTIFICATION FOR THE
07:04:32 PROJECT.
07:04:33 THE PROJECT ITSELF IS -- WE SORT OF INHERENTLY IN OUR
07:04:37 DESIGNS PURSUE A LOT OF MATERIALS THAT HAVE RESILIENCE
07:04:40 BEHIND THEM AND, OF COURSE, WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH
07:04:43 THE NEWER FLORIDA ENERGY CODE IN THE DESIGN.
07:04:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS SOME GUIDANCE FOR US AS WE GO
07:04:52 FORWARD WITH ANY POSSIBLE CHANGES, TYLER, MAYBE YOU CAN
07:05:02 ARRANGE SOME MEETINGS WITH MR. ROLLINS AND HIS TEAM, NOT
07:05:06 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, LONG DONE WITH THIS REZONING TO
07:05:10 TALK ABOUT INCENTIVES AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT CAN
07:05:12 GET THESE PROJECTS TO BE LEED CERTIFIED.
07:05:15 OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
07:05:18 IT LOOKS LIKE RYAN IS UP.
07:05:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE.
07:05:23 >>RYAN MANASSE: REAL FAST.
07:05:25 FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS
07:05:28 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE, AND THE RETAIL SALES
07:05:30 CONVENIENCE GOODS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE YOU THROUGH THIS
07:05:32 PD REZONING, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT
07:05:36 DORMITORIES AND STUDENT HOUSING, BUT THAT'S NOT REGULATED
07:05:39 THROUGH THIS LAND USE.
07:05:39 IT IS FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
07:05:41 JUST TO QUICKLY COMMENT ON THE SPECIFICS OF THE DESIGNS
07:05:44 AND THE LEED, THAT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THIS REZONING AS
07:05:46 WELL, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
07:05:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:05:48 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:05:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
07:05:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:05:51 I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE WHOLE SCOPE AND LISTENING TO
07:05:56 EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
07:05:59 LET ME SEE IF I CAN FOLLOW THE WHOLE THING CORRECTLY.
07:06:02 THE APPLICANT, 150 DWELLING UNITS, 1,675 SQUARE FOOT
07:06:09 CONVENIENCE GOODS AND RETAIL.
07:06:11 257,966 STORAGE WITH ATTACHED PARKING GARAGE.
07:06:16 THAT'S FINE AND DANDY.
07:06:18 I APPRECIATE THAT.
07:06:18 I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT OF BRINGING BUILDINGS THAT ARE
07:06:24 CLOSE TO THE UNIVERSITY AND DOWNTOWN TO BRING BACK THE
07:06:30 AREA HOW IT WAS WAY BACK.
07:06:32 EVERYBODY WALKS.
07:06:35 NOBODY HAD MONEY TO BUY A CAR.
07:06:39 THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
07:06:43 WHEN I LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, THE APPLICANT IS
07:06:45 REQUESTING A 13% PARKING WAIVER AND A WAIVER OF TREES
07:06:50 RETAINED ON NON-WOODED SITE FROM 50 TO 0.
07:06:54 WHAT DOES THAT SHOW ME?
07:06:55 WHAT DOES THAT TELL ME?
07:06:56 AND THEN COMPARE THIS SITE WITH OTHER SITES THAT ARE
07:07:01 SIMILAR TO THE SITE THEY WANT TO BUILD.
07:07:04 I'M HAPPY THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.
07:07:06 HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THAT, AND IF I USE THIS AS A
07:07:10 MODEL, JUST LIKE THEY USE THE SITE THEY CREATED FOR A
07:07:14 MODEL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE?
07:07:16 ARE WE GOING TO HAVE BUILDINGS WITH ZERO PLANTS FROM 50%
07:07:22 TO 0% REDUCTION.
07:07:24 IS THAT WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS?
07:07:26 WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN SAID, AND YOU LOOK -- AND I'M
07:07:30 NOT HERE TO SAY ANYTHING.
07:07:32 I THINK THE PEOPLE ARE GREAT PEOPLE.
07:07:34 BELIEVE ME, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT A BUILDING SITE AND I SAY,
07:07:38 HOW CAN I MAXIMIZE MY RETURN AND THAT'S WHAT BUSINESS IS
07:07:42 ALL ABOUT.
07:07:43 IT'S ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME.
07:07:46 AND THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME, WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT THING
07:07:49 OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
07:07:50 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND YOU
07:07:54 MAXIMIZE THE WHOLE AREA, WHAT YOU NEED FOR YOURSELF AND
07:07:59 THANK GOD YOU NEED IT.
07:08:00 THEN WHAT'S LEFT?
07:08:01 ARE WE GOING TO USE THIS AS A BUILDING MODEL FOR
07:08:05 SOMETHING ELSE THAT COMES DOWN THE LINE JUST LIKE THEY
07:08:07 USE THE OTHER FIVE, SIX, SEVEN THAT WERE THERE.
07:08:09 AND THINGS HAVE A WAY OF CHANGING IN LIFE, AND I
07:08:14 APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SAYING WALKABILITY AND BICYCLE, AND
07:08:17 THE MORE WE SAY THAT, MORE EXPRESS LANES ARE BUILT AND
07:08:22 MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
07:08:23 I HAVE A CONFLICT WITHIN MY SELF TO PROVE THE FACT IT'S
07:08:27 TRUE OR NOT SO TRUE.
07:08:28 DO PEOPLE WANT TO WALK?
07:08:30 YES.
07:08:30 PEOPLE WANT TO RIDE BIKE?
07:08:32 YES.
07:08:33 EVIDENTLY, THEY ARE STILL WANTING CARS BECAUSE THE
07:08:36 EXPRESSWAYS GO FROM TWO LANES TO THREE LANES TO FOUR
07:08:40 LANES TO FIVE LANES.
07:08:41 THERE'S SOME DOUBT IN MY MIND -- AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT
07:08:45 RELATE TO THIS PARTICULAR ZONING.
07:08:47 BUT WHAT DOES RELATE TO THE ZONING IS IF I MAXIMIZE THE
07:08:51 TOTAL FOOTPRINT TO WHAT I NEED TO WHAT'S LEFT, THE TREES
07:08:58 DON'T HAVE A CHANCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR
07:09:02 THE ROOTS TO GROW.
07:09:04 BUT MY BUILDING BECAUSE I WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE RETURN.
07:09:09 GOD BLESS YOU, I AGREE WITH YOU.
07:09:11 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, IT'S GOT TO BE A ZONING
07:09:14 AMENDMENT CHANGED OR SOMETHING THAT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD
07:09:17 SOMETHING LIKE THIS, GOD BLESS YOU.
07:09:20 BUT DON'T COME AND ASK FOR PERCENTAGES I'M GOING TO PAY
07:09:25 INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND AND I'M GOING TO DO THIS AND I'M
07:09:29 GOING TO DO -- THAT'S WONDERFUL.
07:09:31 BUT -- WHETHER RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.
07:09:37 IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO PERCENTAGES BE KEPT IN A
07:09:41 MINIMUM, NOT A MAXIMUM.
07:09:42 AND THIS IS THE THING THAT I'M LISTENING TO ALL,
07:09:46 EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID.
07:09:48 IF I USE THIS AS SOMETHING GOING FORWARD, IT'S NOT GOING
07:09:52 TO LOOK TOO NICE WHEN IT'S ALL COMPLETED BECAUSE THERE
07:09:56 WILL BE NO TREES.
07:09:57 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:10:02 >> IF I CAN RESPOND.
07:10:03 YOUR CONCERN IS VERY WELL TAKEN.
07:10:06 THE INTENT AND THE EFFECT IS, THIS WILL NOT BE A BARREN
07:10:11 WASTELAND.
07:10:12 OUR WAIVER REQUEST IS GOING FROM KEEPING 50% OF THE TREES
07:10:15 THERE TO KEEPING NONE OF THE EXISTING TREES BECAUSE THE
07:10:19 DOG DAY CARE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE SHAPE OF OUR
07:10:22 BUILDING.
07:10:23 BUT, WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND LIKE RICKY AND BILL TO
07:10:26 DISCUSS IS HOW MUCH EFFORT HAS GONE INTO PLANT NEW TREES
07:10:28 AND NOT JUST SCRAGGLY TREES, BUT HIGH-QUALITY TREES THAT
07:10:33 COST A SIGNIFICANT MORE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAINTAIN.
07:10:36 RICKY, IF YOU WOULD START WITH THAT AND MAYBE BILL IF YOU
07:10:39 WOULDN'T MIND RESPONDING AFTER RICKY.
07:10:42 >> YES.
07:10:42 TO PROVIDE A MORE VIABLE TREE PLANTING WITH THE SCREEN
07:10:46 SPACE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED, WE'RE PUTTING EXTRA
07:10:49 INVESTMENT IN THE SOIL TO SUPPORT THESE TREES AND
07:10:52 PROVIDING LARGER TREES AND SPECIFICALLY SELECTED
07:10:56 CULTIVARS OF TREES TO SUCCEED IN THIS CONDITION.
07:11:02 ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL BE PROPOSING TREE PLANTINGS AROUND
07:11:05 THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMMUNITY
07:11:09 RESIDENTS.
07:11:11 WHILE IT MAY NOT MEET THE LETTER OF THE REPLACEMENT DUE
07:11:15 TO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL GETS
07:11:18 THE BENEFIT OF THE TREE PLANTINGS AS WE'RE -- THE WAY
07:11:21 WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS, COUNCILMAN.
07:11:26 >> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THE INTENT HERE IS AT HUMAN
07:11:32 SCALE, PEOPLE THAT WALK AND DRIVE BY, IT'S GOING TO BE A
07:11:38 VERY LUSH TREE CANOPY.
07:11:40 IN ORDER TO GET THAT, WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO CREATE
07:11:45 ADEQUATE ROOTING SPACE SO THESE TREES CAN GROW TO
07:11:48 MATURITY.
07:11:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:11:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:12:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH MR. ROLLINS A
07:12:05 SECOND.
07:12:06 I DON'T KNOW MR. ROLLINS, BUT HE'S A GATOR, SO HE MUST BE
07:12:10 A GOOD GUY.
07:12:12 WHAT I'M FEELING -- AND MAYBE YOU CAN PUT UP THAT DRAWING
07:12:21 AGAIN.
07:12:21 I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS CONTROL OF THAT.
07:12:23 >> I CAN DO THAT, COUNCILMAN.
07:12:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE WHOLE STREETSCAPE.
07:12:30 THE FEEL THAT I GET HERE IS A VERY URBAN FEEL.
07:12:39 VERY MUCH LIKE OUR BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN WHICH I WOULD SAY
07:12:43 PROBABLY MOST OF THEM ARE ZERO LOT LINE TO A GREAT
07:12:48 EXTENT.
07:12:48 I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER HERE AS WE JUMP ACROSS THE
07:12:52 RIVER IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT URBAN -- ENVIRONMENT TO A
07:13:01 0 LOT LINE.
07:13:03 NOW, IF THERE WAS NO CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY TO PLANT THESE
07:13:06 TREES AND THEY ASKED FOR A ZERO LOT LINE, I HAVE A BIG
07:13:09 PROBLEM WITH THIS.
07:13:10 I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH IT AND WOULD VOTE NO
07:13:18 INEVITABLY.
07:13:20 BUT THE FACT FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE SEEMS TO BE AN
07:13:24 ADEQUATE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AT LEAST ON THE TWO STREETS THAT
07:13:27 WE CAN SEE HERE, AND I'M GOING TO PRESUME THE THIRD
07:13:30 STREET AS WELL, TO PLANT A NICE BUFFER OF TREES, STILL
07:13:34 HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE SIDEWALK, AND STILL HAVE A FUNCTIONAL
07:13:39 STREET.
07:13:39 AND IN LIGHT OF THAT, I CAN LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT THEY
07:13:45 WANT TO MAXIMIZE THEIR FOOTPRINT ON THE PROPERTY AND
07:13:48 CREATE A VERY URBAN -- A VERY URBAN LOOK.
07:13:51 MR. ROLLINS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON ANY OF THAT.
07:13:57 >> NO, I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE CHARACTER.
07:13:59 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE PREEXISTING LAND
07:14:02 USES.
07:14:05 WHILE I DO RESPECT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE KIND OF SCALE
07:14:08 AND URBANISM OF THE PROJECT, I THINK WE'RE IN A UNIQUE
07:14:11 LOCATION BEING THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THIS DISTRICT AND
07:14:18 BORDERING ON THE UNIVERSITY AND THEN OUR DOWNTOWN.
07:14:20 SO WE REALLY SEE THIS AREA -- IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THE
07:14:24 LAND USE DESIGN ON THIS SITE, BUT YOU DON'T SEE
07:14:27 DESIGNATED AT SITES FURTHER WEST AS SCALES DO START TO
07:14:31 STEP DOWN.
07:14:31 BUT THIS REALLY DOES STRIKE US AS A PARTICULAR BUFFER
07:14:33 POINT BETWEEN A LOT OF URBAN AND EDUCATIONAL AREAS AND A
07:14:38 DEVELOPING MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:14:40 AND, OF COURSE, WE ALL, YOU KNOW, HAVE A HOPEFUL FUTURE
07:14:42 FOR WHAT THAT CSX RAIL COULD BE THROUGH OUR CITY ONE DAY
07:14:46 AS WELL.
07:14:48 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND MIRANDA, ONE POINT, A LOT OF
07:14:51 THE EFFORT THAT WE WENT INTO TO TRY TO MAKE THIS WORK
07:14:56 FROM A NATURAL RESOURCES PERSPECTIVE, AND WE'RE VERY
07:14:58 PLEASED WITH THE POSITION WE GOT TO, WAS ALSO MOTIVATED
07:15:02 BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST.
07:15:04 THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS REALLY ONE MIND, NORTH HYDE PARK
07:15:07 ALLIANCE.
07:15:07 THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE NEIGHBORS WE
07:15:10 SPOKE TO ABOUT, THEY LIKE THE URBAN CANOPY IN THAT
07:15:13 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT IS WHY WE'VE GONE -- WOULDN'T SAY
07:15:16 HERCULEAN, BUT THE SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS WE HAVE TO PROMOTE
07:15:19 THE KIND OF CANOPY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
07:15:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
07:15:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:15:25 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:15:27 HEARING AND SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC
07:15:32 THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
07:15:37 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:15:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN PERSON ON THE
07:15:41 SECOND FLOOR?
07:15:44 >> AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
07:15:47 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:15:49 THANK YOU.
07:15:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:15:51 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:15:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:15:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:15:55 ANY OPPOSED?
07:15:56 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THIS ITEM, NUMBER
07:16:00 3.
07:16:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-87, ORDINANCE BEING
07:16:07 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
07:16:10 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 311 NORTH
07:16:12 NEWPORT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
07:16:15 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
07:16:17 CLASSIFICATION IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD (PLANNED
07:16:22 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES,
07:16:25 CONVENIENCE GOODS); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:16:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:16:29 >> SECOND.
07:16:30 >> SECOND.
07:16:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
07:16:32 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND, VIERA.
07:16:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS COUNCILMAN GUDES WISHES TO
07:16:36 ELABORATE A BIT BASED ON SOME FINDINGS RELATIVE TO THIS.
07:16:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:16:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE AN ORDINANCE, SHOWN ON REVISION
07:16:48 SHEET AS APPLICANT HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF, PROVIDE
07:16:52 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AS
07:16:54 CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH
07:16:56 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITY CODE AND ADOPTED FINDINGS AND
07:17:00 READINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, STAFF REPORT.
07:17:02 CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE OBJECTIVE 2.1, POLICIES TO
07:17:07 ENCOURAGE -- HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH ITS
07:17:11 SURROUNDING CHARACTER AND THE USE LAND RESOURCES MORE
07:17:14 EFFECTIVELY.
07:17:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM CARLSON.
07:17:18 CAN WE GET A ROLL-CALL VOTE.
07:17:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:17:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:17:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:17:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:17:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SUPPORT IT IN FIRST READING.
07:17:30 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SECOND READING.
07:17:32 THANK YOU.
07:17:35 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
07:17:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:17:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:17:41 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:17:43 SECOND READING --
07:17:45 >> CAN YOU SEE ME?
07:17:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
07:17:47 IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY.
07:17:49 WE'VE GOT YOU.
07:17:49 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:17:51 SECONDING READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4 AT
07:17:54 9:30 A.M.
07:17:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:17:55 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 4, MR. MANASSE.
07:17:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
07:18:01 RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:18:02 ITEM NUMBER 4 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-68 FOR THE PROPERTY
07:18:06 LOCATED AT 114 WEST ALFRED STREET.
07:18:09 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS REZONING FROM RS 50 RESIDENTIAL
07:18:13 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR DETACHED
07:18:16 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
07:18:16 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.
07:18:19 AND IF YOU'D PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
07:18:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:18:21 GO AHEAD, MS. MALONE.
07:18:23 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
07:18:28 COMMISSION.
07:18:29 I AM SHARING MY SCREEN.
07:18:30 IT SHOULD BE UP NOW.
07:18:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN SEE IT.
07:18:32 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GREAT.
07:18:33 THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIRMATION, CHAIR.
07:18:35 THIS IS WITHIN THE -- WE'RE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS RIGHT NOW.
07:18:39 THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
07:18:46 THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION.
07:18:48 IT IS MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
07:18:50 WE HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND NO ADVERSE
07:18:54 IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:18:55 I WILL POINT OUT WE DID A DENSITY ANALYSIS AND IT'S ON A
07:18:59 STREET BETWEEN NORTH OLA AVENUE AND THE EASTERN TERMINUS
07:19:03 OF WEST ALFRED STREET.
07:19:04 THERE IS AN EXISTING DENSITY OF 10.15 DWELLING UNITS PER
07:19:10 ACRE.
07:19:10 THAT IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE
07:19:13 OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
07:19:15 THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF IN AN OLDER AREA
07:19:19 OF THE CITY.
07:19:20 THIS WAS DEVELOPED -- THE STREET WAS DEVELOPED BETWEEN
07:19:23 MODERN -- BEFORE MODERN PLANNING AND ZONING.
07:19:25 BUT THE SITE ITSELF WITH THIS REQUEST WILL HAVE AN
07:19:28 OVERALL DENSITY OF 9.64 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS
07:19:32 CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD DENSITY AND
07:19:35 WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION,
07:19:38 I'LL ALSO POINT OUT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA IT
07:19:40 TRANSITIONS TO RESIDENTIAL 20 TO THE EAST.
07:19:42 THAT IS THAT DARKER BROWN COLOR, AND THEN FURTHER EAST
07:19:45 ALONG NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE IT IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
07:19:48 IN THE RED.
07:19:49 BUT OVERALL, WE FOUND THAT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WOULD
07:19:51 BE REDEVELOPED WITHIN THE EXISTING STREET, BLOCK, AND LOT
07:19:54 CONFIGURATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:19:56 IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE POLICIES PROVIDING HOUSING
07:19:59 FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
07:20:01 IT IS CONSISTENT AND COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
07:20:05 SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WE FOUND IT
07:20:07 CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
07:20:07 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:20:09 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
07:20:11 THANK YOU.
07:20:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:20:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:20:19 MS. MALONE, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE -- AND I DON'T
07:20:22 KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE
07:20:26 PD SITE PLAN YET.
07:20:27 SO I'M TOTALLY GOING TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND.
07:20:30 BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.
07:20:33 YOU SAID THAT -- OR DID YOU SAY THAT THE LAND USE
07:20:36 CATEGORY IS R-10?
07:20:39 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT'S CORRECT.
07:20:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THIS EXCEEDS R-10?
07:20:43 I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IT WAS INHERENTLY INCONSISTENT FOR
07:20:47 A PROJECT TO EXCEED THE LAND USE CATEGORY.
07:20:49 HOW DOES THAT -- I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ADDITIONAL
07:20:54 POLICIES SUPPORTING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BUT I THOUGHT
07:20:58 THE MAX WAS MAX, AND YET THEY HAVE EXCEED THE MAX.
07:21:02 HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN AND WHY IS THAT NOT SETTING A BAD
07:21:05 PRECEDENT?
07:21:06 >>JENNIFER MALONE: FOR THE RECORD, THE PROJECT IS NOT
07:21:08 EXCEEDING THE MAX.
07:21:09 I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY CONFUSION.
07:21:11 IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED AT AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 9.64
07:21:15 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE, WHICH IS BELOW THE 10.
07:21:18 THE STREET ITSELF HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AT 10.15.
07:21:24 WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE FUTURE LAND USE.
07:21:27 HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS AN OLDER AREA OF THE CITY THAT
07:21:29 WAS PRIMARILY DEVELOPED BEFORE WE HAD FUTURE LAND USE,
07:21:32 THE STREET AVERAGES OUT TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT
07:21:35 THE PROJECT ITSELF IS WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE
07:21:37 DESIGNATION.
07:21:38 I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY CONFUSION.
07:21:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY FOR MY CONFUSION.
07:21:43 THAT ONE UP FOR IDEA IS OUT AT ME.
07:21:45 LIKE ALARM BELLS GOING OFF.
07:21:46 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I UNDERSTAND.
07:21:47 THANK YOU.
07:21:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
07:21:50 MR. MANASSE.
07:21:51 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU.
07:21:52 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.
07:21:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, WE CAN SEE IT.
07:21:54 GO AHEAD.
07:21:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: EXCELLENT.
07:21:56 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE REZ 20-68, PROPERTY LOCATION
07:22:00 AGAIN IS 114 WEST ALFRED STREET AND THE REQUEST BEFORE
07:22:03 YOU RS-50 TO PD FOR DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
07:22:07 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS PETITION.
07:22:13 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO HAVE ONE SINGLE-FAMILY
07:22:17 DETACHED RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT FOR THIS PLANNED
07:22:19 DEVELOPMENT.
07:22:20 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED THREE LOTS EAST OF NORTH HIGHLAND
07:22:23 AVENUE AND WEST ALFRED INTERSECTIONS.
07:22:25 APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A TWO-STORY RESIDENCE
07:22:27 WITH A DESIGN WHICH INCORPORATES A ONE-CAR GARAGE.
07:22:30 THE SITE ITSELF CONTAINS 4,725 SQUARE FEET WITH A LOT
07:22:35 WIDTH OF 45 FEET AND DEPARTMENT OF 105 FEET.
07:22:38 THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF
07:22:41 50 AND MINIMUM LOT AREA IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
07:22:44 THE SITE DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM RS-50 REQUIREMENTS.
07:22:47 THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS REQUEST TO BE BEFORE -- OR TO BE
07:22:49 APPROVED IS TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU AS A PLANNED
07:22:52 DEVELOPMENT FOR A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.
07:22:53 THE PROPOSED PD SETBACKS ARE NORTH 20 FEET, SOUTH 20
07:22:58 FEET, EAST 6 FEET, AND WEST 6 FEET.
07:23:01 WITH A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.
07:23:04 THE SURROUNDING USES ARE ALL DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
07:23:07 RESIDENTS IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
07:23:09 AND THEN WE DID DO A STAFF ANALYSIS ON THIS.
07:23:14 THE MAP OF ADAMS PLACE SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED
07:23:18 IN 1916 WITH LOTS VARIED IN WIDTH FROM 45 FEET TO 52.5
07:23:21 FEET IN LENGTH, AND -- I'M SORRY, IN WIDTHS, AND THEN IN
07:23:26 LENGTHS, 90 FEET TO 105 FEET.
07:23:30 SIX BLOCKS AND THE SUBJECT PARCEL LOCATED ON BLOCK 4 OF
07:23:32 THE SUBDIVISION, LOT TWO.
07:23:34 THE SUBJECT APPLICATION SEEKS TO REESTABLISH THE
07:23:37 ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOTS AND CREATE ONE BUILDABLE LOT.
07:23:40 IN ADDITION, THE SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED IN BETWEEN NORTH
07:23:42 TAMPA STREET AND NORTH OLA AVENUE, NORTH OF WEST COLUMBUS
07:23:46 DRIVE.
07:23:47 THE OVERALL AREA, 297 TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND 80% OR --
07:23:52 SORRY, 80 OR 27% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
07:23:56 WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
07:23:58 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
07:24:02 PATTERN, THE SUBJECT LOT CONTAINS EIGHT TOTAL ZONING LOTS
07:24:06 AND 3 OR 37% OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH
07:24:09 OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 5, OR 63% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED
07:24:13 WITH THAT WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
07:24:15 THE HUNDRED BLOCK OF WEST ALFRED STREET, WHICH IS ON BOTH
07:24:20 SIDES OF THE STREET, CONTAIN NINE TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND
07:24:22 TWO, OR 22% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
07:24:25 WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 7, OR 78%, HAVE BEEN
07:24:29 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
07:24:32 THE BLOCK BASE ITSELF CONTAINS TWO OTHER ZONING LOTS, AND
07:24:36 ZERO, OR ZERO PERCENT OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED
07:24:38 WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR GREATER, AND TWO HAVE BEEN
07:24:41 DEVELOPED WITH THAT WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.
07:24:43 THIS IS THE CONFORMING MAP THAT WAS PLACED IN YOUR STAFF
07:24:49 REPORTS AS WELL.
07:24:49 AS YOU CAN SEE, I CAN ZOOM IN, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO, TO
07:24:53 GET OVER TO THE -- AS FAR AS IT'S GOING UNLESS IT'S
07:24:58 LAGGING -- SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN BLACK HERE AND
07:25:00 HATCHED.
07:25:02 SO THESE ARE THE SUBJECT SITES, AS YOU CAN SEE, IF I ZOOM
07:25:04 BACK OUT, THE COLORS THAT ARE THIS LIGHT -- LIGHTER
07:25:09 GRAY-BLUE, AND THEN THESE LIGHT BLUES AND GRAYS ARE ALL
07:25:13 PARCELS THAT ARE 49 FEET OR LESS.
07:25:15 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BLOCK BASE, AS WELL AS THE BLOCK
07:25:18 ITSELF, DO MEET THAT CRITERIA.
07:25:21 HERE'S THE PD SITE PLAN ITSELF.
07:25:25 THE ELEVATION IS ON THE LEFT SIDE AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY
07:25:28 DWELLING DETACHED WITH THE SETBACKS LISTED.
07:25:31 THE DRIVEWAY WITH THE ENCLOSED GARAGE.
07:25:34 THE AERIAL SHOWS THAT THERE IS A LOCAL ZION CHURCH,
07:25:41 HISTORIC LANDMARK WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
07:25:43 AGAIN, THAT RADIUS IS LIGHTER GREEN DASHED LINE.
07:25:46 THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE OUTLINED IN RED.
07:25:49 HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE ON THE LEFT AND THEN ON
07:25:54 THE RIGHT, WEST OF THE SITE.
07:25:55 BELOW THAT IS EAST OF THE SITE.
07:25:57 ALL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.
07:26:01 SORRY, MY CAMERA IS BLOCKING MY VIEW.
07:26:02 THEY ARE ALL NORTH OF THE SITE.
07:26:05 FORGIVE ME.
07:26:07 SO ALL THREE ARE NORTH.
07:26:08 SO THAT WOULD BE LOOKING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET,
07:26:10 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.
07:26:12 AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
07:26:16 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION.
07:26:18 WE DO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
07:26:20 DEVELOPMENT CODE.
07:26:21 IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
07:26:23 APPLICATION, THERE ARE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN
07:26:26 FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT ARE REQUIRED, AND THEY ARE
07:26:28 SHOWN ON THE REVISION SHEET.
07:26:30 IT IS APPROVED, IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THE REVISION SHEET
07:26:33 IN THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
07:26:34 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
07:26:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
07:26:38 TIME?
07:26:38 NO.
07:26:41 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT ON THE LINE?
07:26:42 I BELIEVE WE HAVE KELSEY DUNCAN.
07:26:46 IF SHE'S ON THE LINE, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE AND
07:26:55 CAMERA AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
07:26:57 >> HI.
07:26:57 I'M HERE.
07:26:58 I'M TRYING TO TURN ON MY CAMERA, MY WEB CAM.
07:27:02 GOT IT.
07:27:07 IT'S ASKING ME TO LEAVE THE MEETING TO ALLOW ME TO USE
07:27:12 THE CAMERA, WHICH IS ODD.
07:27:17 LET'S TRY THIS.
07:27:20 AM I ON?
07:27:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.
07:27:28 >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
07:27:30 IT MIGHT KICK ME OUT TO LET ME SHOW MY CAMERA, WHICH IS
07:27:43 REALLY ODD.
07:27:43 CAN I COME RIGHT BACK?
07:27:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN, SURE,
07:27:49 WE'LL WAIT A MINUTE.
07:27:50 >> GIVE ME LIKE 20 SECONDS.
07:27:52 123450 WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN IF YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:28:42 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
07:28:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU HEAR HER?
07:28:55 YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:28:57 >> THERE WE GO.
07:28:58 YES.
07:28:59 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
07:29:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:29:00 GO AHEAD.
07:29:01 YOU HAVE TIME NOW TO PRESENT.
07:29:04 >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
07:29:06 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
07:29:08 THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND FOR REVIEWING
07:29:11 THIS.
07:29:12 WE ARE SEEKING TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY JUST TO BUILD A
07:29:16 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE HOMES
07:29:19 AROUND, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR SECOND HEARING.
07:29:21 THANK YOU.
07:29:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:29:23 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
07:29:24 IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:29:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
07:29:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. DUNCAN, ON OCCASION, THAT
07:29:37 NEIGHBORHOOD IS FAIRLY ACTIVE AND INVOLVED.
07:29:40 I'M SURE YOU CIRCULATED THE APPROPRIATE NOTICE, INCLUDING
07:29:44 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
07:29:45 DID YOU HEAR FROM ANYBODY IN RESPONSE TO THIS?
07:29:49 >> SO, YES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY ACTIVE.
07:29:52 I'VE BEEN OUT THERE ON MANY OCCASIONS AND TALKED TO A LOT
07:29:55 OF THE NEIGHBORS FIRSTHAND ABOUT THE PROJECT.
07:29:56 THEY ARE EXCITED FOR IT.
07:29:57 I DID GET A CALL FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD
07:30:01 DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
07:30:03 HE WAS CURIOUS WHY WE NEEDED TO EVEN GET A PD BECAUSE HE
07:30:06 WAS ALSO ON A PROPERTY LESS THAN 50 FEET IN WIDTH.
07:30:09 BUT HE JUST VOICED HIS SUPPORT AND ASKED TO SEE THE SITE
07:30:17 PLAN WHEN WE WERE DONE WITH THEM.
07:30:19 I THINK HE WAS EXCITED FOR A MODERN BUILD TO COME INTO
07:30:22 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:30:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:30:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:30:25 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC -- ANYBODY REGISTERED TO
07:30:28 SPEAK?
07:30:30 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
07:30:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
07:30:34 >> THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
07:30:37 THANK YOU.
07:30:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE?
07:30:38 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:30:40 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:30:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:30:42 AYE.
07:30:42 ANY OPPOSED?
07:30:43 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS ITEM
07:30:45 NUMBER 4?
07:30:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
07:30:49 THANK YOU.
07:30:49 LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 20-68, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
07:30:53 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
07:30:55 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 114 WEST ALFRED
07:30:59 STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
07:31:02 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
07:31:04 CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD
07:31:08 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
07:31:10 DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND INCLUDING THE
07:31:13 REVISION SHEET AND BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS
07:31:17 CONSISTENT WITH THE LOCAL HOUSING POLICIES THAT IT'S
07:31:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALSO WITH THE
07:31:26 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:31:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
07:31:31 CARLSON.
07:31:32 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:31:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
07:31:34 ROLL-CALL VOTE.
07:31:35 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?
07:31:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:31:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:31:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
07:31:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:31:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:31:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:31:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:31:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:31:49 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th
07:31:53 AT 9:30 A.M.
07:31:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:31:57 ITEM NUMBER 5.
07:31:58 MR. MANASSE.
07:31:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:32:02 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS FILE REZ 20-92.
07:32:05 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5430 AND 5440 WEST TYSON
07:32:10 AVENUE.
07:32:10 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM IH,
07:32:14 INDUSTRIAL HEAVY, TO PD, FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
07:32:17 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, RESTAURANT, AND RETAIL SALES
07:32:20 SHOPPERS GOODS USES.
07:32:21 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.
07:32:24 AND IF YOU'D PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
07:32:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:32:26 GO AHEAD.
07:32:27 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
07:32:29 COMMISSION.
07:32:30 I AM SHARING MY SCREEN SO IT SHOULD BE UP IN JUST A
07:32:33 MOMENT.
07:32:33 I BELIEVE YOU CAN SEE IT NOW.
07:32:35 THIS IS 20-92 AS RYAN STATED.
07:32:37 IT IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:32:40 IT IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND EVACUATION
07:32:42 A.
07:32:45 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ON WEST TYSON.
07:32:47 IT IS AT THE END OF WEST TYSON.
07:32:50 THERE'S A VARIETY OF USES ON WEST TYSON AS I'M SURE THIS
07:32:53 BOARD IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT RANGES FROM INDUSTRIAL
07:32:57 USES, RESIDENTIAL USES, COMMERCIAL, THERE'S A RESTAURANT
07:33:01 IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
07:33:02 THIS IS A ZOOMED-OUT VERSION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
07:33:07 TO JUST KIND OF SHOW THE PATTERN ALONG RATTLESNAKE POINT.
07:33:11 THE DARK BLACK COLOR IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE
07:33:15 THAT'S PRESENT IN THE AREA, BUT THAT PINK COLOR IS
07:33:18 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, WHICH IS WHAT THE SUBJECT SITE
07:33:21 IS.
07:33:22 SO IT IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
07:33:26 UNDER THIS DESIGNATION, PROJECTS MAY BE DETERMINED BY
07:33:29 EITHER DENSITY OR FLOOR AREA RATIO, WHICHEVER CALCULATION
07:33:33 IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE DEVELOPER.
07:33:34 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN F.A.R. OF 0.88.
07:33:38 THAT IS BENEATH THE MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED WITHIN
07:33:42 THIS DESIGNATION.
07:33:44 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION CAN GO UP TO A 1.0
07:33:48 BY RIGHT AND THEN ALL THE WAY UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R. WITH
07:33:51 SOME BONUSES.
07:33:53 0.88 IS WELL WITHIN THAT INTENSITY WE ANTICIPATE IN THIS
07:33:58 DESIGNATION.
07:33:58 THIS AREA HAS BEEN TRANSITIONING FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
07:34:02 WORKING WATERFRONT TO A MIXTURES OF INDUSTRIAL
07:34:06 RESIDENTIAL USES GUIDED BY THE POLICY DIRECTION IN THE
07:34:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:34:09 THERE IS AN ENTIRE SECTION OF TEXT RELATED TO THE
07:34:12 WATERFRONT OF RATTLESNAKE POINT AREA AND THAT TRANSITION
07:34:17 THAT WILL OCCUR.
07:34:18 WE FOUND THAT THE APPLICANT MET THE POLICIES IN THE PLAN
07:34:22 THAT RELATE TO THIS.
07:34:23 THERE IS A PUBLIC PATHWAY TO THE WATERFRONT, WHICH IS
07:34:27 SOMETHING THAT IS MET -- THAT IS CALLED FOR AND MET.
07:34:31 I WILL SAY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
07:34:40 THE DESIGN OF THE SITE TYPICALLY WITHIN THESE DISTRICTS,
07:34:42 WE ENCOURAGE THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR TOWNHOMES AND
07:34:45 MULTIFAMILY ORIENTED TO ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
07:34:50 APPLICANT WILL DESCRIBE WEST TYSON IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND
07:34:54 ALSO NEED FOR ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE
07:34:56 STILL MEETING THAT INTENT WITH THE DESIGN THAT THEY HAVE
07:34:58 PROPOSED.
07:34:58 SO WE HAVE FOUND THIS CONSISTENT.
07:35:00 WE FOUND THAT IT WILL COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
07:35:03 PATTERN, AND IT IS FOLLOWING THOSE RATTLESNAKE POINT
07:35:07 POLICIES AS SET OUT IN THE PLAN.
07:35:09 I WOULD STATE ONE THING FOR THE RECORD.
07:35:12 NOTE 12 READS THAT ON THE SITE PLAN, NOTE 12, READS THAT
07:35:17 HURRICANE EVACUATION, SLASH, MITIGATION PAYMENT, UNQUOTE,
07:35:23 WE ARE JUST REQUESTING THAT THE APPLICANT REVISE BETWEEN
07:35:26 FIRST AND SECOND READING TO HURRICANE EVACUATION AND
07:35:29 SHELTER SPACE MITIGATION PAYMENT TO BE MORE CONSISTENT
07:35:33 WITH POLICY -- LAND USE POLICY 8.11.7.
07:35:38 THEY HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THAT SHELTER SPACE AND WE JUST
07:35:41 WOULD LIKE THAT VERBIAGE TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR
07:35:43 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND WE HAVE LET THE
07:35:45 APPLICANT KNOW THIS AND HAD A DISCUSSION ON THIS POINT.
07:35:48 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:35:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
07:35:51 TIME?
07:35:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
07:35:56 MS. MALONE, IS THE DENSITY -- IS THE PROPOSED DENSITY
07:36:01 GREATER THAN THE SURROUNDING AREAS?
07:36:06 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I WOULD HAVE TO DO A QUICK ANALYSIS OF
07:36:09 THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE ON THOSE
07:36:13 PDs.
07:36:14 BUT I CAN SAY THAT --
07:36:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, I HAVE MIND-SET LISTS FROM
07:36:20 THE LAST ONE.
07:36:21 I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT.
07:36:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MANASSE, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH
07:36:28 YOUR PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
07:36:31 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:36:32 >>RYAN MANASSE: I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN.
07:36:34 SO, AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 5 IS FILE REZ 20-92 FOR THE
07:36:38 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5430 AND 5440 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
07:36:41 AGAIN, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS REZONE FROM IH,
07:36:47 INDUSTRIAL HEAVY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY
07:36:49 RESIDENTIAL, RESTAURANT AND RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS.
07:36:54 THIS PETITION IS NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS.
07:36:56 SPECIFICALLY, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 650
07:36:58 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SALES,
07:37:03 SHOPPERS GOODS OR RESTAURANT.
07:37:04 THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 712,299 SQUARE FEET
07:37:10 CONSISTING OF FOUR-STORY -- SORRY, A FOUR SIX STORY
07:37:14 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AND ONE FIVE STORY RESIDENTIAL
07:37:16 STRUCTURE.
07:37:17 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS OR
07:37:20 RESTAURANT.
07:37:20 THE COMMERCIAL PACE IS PROPOSED ON THE NORTH END OF THE
07:37:23 SITE NEAR TYSON, WEST TYSON AVENUE WITH A POOL AND
07:37:26 AMENITIES LOCATED NEAR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
07:37:29 THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCORPORATE A MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL
07:37:32 AND BOARDWALK, TRAIL, SLASH, BOARDWALK AROUND THE
07:37:35 PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC
07:37:37 ACCESS TO THE WATERWAY.
07:37:38 THE DEVELOPER WILL PROVIDE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE WITHIN THE
07:37:41 PARCEL DIRECTING THE PUBLIC TO THE BOARDWALK PARKING
07:37:44 SPACES.
07:37:45 THE 18.55-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WESTERN END OF
07:37:49 RATTLESNAKE POINT, SOUTH OF WEST TYSON AVENUE.
07:37:51 THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY OPEN WATER TO THE WEST AND
07:37:54 SOUTH.
07:37:54 WATER AND INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE EAST AND IH ZONING
07:37:57 DISTRICT.
07:37:58 AND MIXED COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE NORTH IN
07:38:01 THE IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT.
07:38:03 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS ARE NORTH 20 FEET, SOUTH
07:38:07 20 FEET, EAST 7 FEET, AND WEST 7 FEET.
07:38:10 THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 95 FEET OR SIX STORIES.
07:38:14 AND THE TOTAL OF 1,182 PARKING SPACES OR REQUIRED AND
07:38:18 1,185 PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
07:38:21 THERE ARE FIVE LOADING SPACES REQUIRED AND FIVE BEING
07:38:23 PROVIDED AS WELL.
07:38:24 TO FURTHER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE IT KIND OF PLAYS
07:38:27 ON THIS SUMMARY, COUNCILMAN CITRO, THIS PETITION BEFORE
07:38:30 YOU IS SHOWING 650 UNITS AT 18.55 ACRES, WHICH EQUATES TO
07:38:36 35.04 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
07:38:38 SOME OTHER ONES THAT ARE RELATIVELY NEW THAT WE DISCUSSED
07:38:43 AT LAST CITY COUNCIL AS WELL, THERE'S REZONING 20-66,
07:38:47 5301 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
07:38:49 IT WAS FOR 299 UNITS AT 8.37 ACRES, WHICH CAME OUT TO
07:38:53 35.72 ACRES.
07:38:55 A DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
07:38:56 REZONING 1994 -- 19-94 AT 6603 SOUTH TRASK STREET.
07:39:05 THAT WAS 205 UNITS AT 10.51 ACRES.
07:39:08 SO THAT EQUATES TO 19.51 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
07:39:12 REZONING 19-69, 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, 214 UNITS AT
07:39:19 9.31 ACRES, WHICH CAME OUT TO 22.99 DWELLING UNITS PER
07:39:23 ACRE.
07:39:24 AND THEN THERE WAS REZONING 19-77 AT 5105 WEST TYSON
07:39:29 AVENUE.
07:39:29 IT WAS 325 UNITS AT 11.9 ACRES, WHICH EQUATED TO 27.31
07:39:34 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
07:39:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO, MR. MANASSE, WE CAN SEE THIS PROPOSAL
07:39:40 IS MUCH -- THE DENSITY IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE
07:39:42 SURROUNDING AREA?
07:39:44 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE PREVIOUS REZONINGS FROM THIS ONE THAT
07:39:48 I DESCRIBED STARTING AT 66 I BELIEVE WERE ALL DENIED, BUT
07:39:52 THIS ONE, IT EQUATES TO WHAT CMU 35 WOULD ALLOW, WHICH
07:39:57 WOULD BE 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
07:39:58 IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER AT 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
07:40:01 BUT IT'S -- IT HAS MORE ACREAGE AND THERE ARE MORE UNITS
07:40:05 IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE UNIT PER ACREAGE COUNT.
07:40:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.
07:40:11 ONE MORE QUESTION.
07:40:12 WHAT IS THE RATIO OF RETAIL COMPARED TO MULTIFAMILY?
07:40:14 DO YOU KNOW?
07:40:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE.
07:40:18 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ADDRESS THAT FURTHER, BUT PER
07:40:21 THE STAFF REPORT, THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT 5,000 SQUARE
07:40:25 FEET OF RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS OR RESTAURANT.
07:40:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.
07:40:31 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:40:33 >>RYAN MANASSE: JUST TO CONTINUE ON, THE AERIAL -- I'M
07:40:36 SORRY.
07:40:37 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION?
07:40:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
07:40:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND MAKE SURE
07:40:45 THE RECORD IS 100% RIGHT.
07:40:47 RYAN, YOU SAID THAT THE ONES YOU MENTIONED, 35 PER ACRE,
07:40:56 19 PER ACRE, 22 PER ACRE AND 27 PER ACRE, AND THEN YOU
07:40:59 SAID THEY WERE ALL DENIED.
07:41:01 BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
07:41:04 I THINK JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, THEY WERE
07:41:06 DENIED.
07:41:07 THEY WENT INTO -- THREE OF THEM WENT INTO LITIGATION.
07:41:10 THEN THEY CAME BACK AND ULTIMATELY WERE APPROVED AT
07:41:15 CERTAIN LEVEL.
07:41:15 WHEN YOU GAVE US THOSE NUMBERS, WERE THOSE THE NUMBERS
07:41:18 THAT WERE ULTIMATELY APPROVED?
07:41:21 OR WERE THOSE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY CAME IN INITIALLY?
07:41:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WASN'T THE PRESENTER ON THE PREVIOUS
07:41:28 ONES, SO THIS IS SOME OF THE INFORMATION I TRIED TO
07:41:30 GATHER FROM THE LAST COUNCIL JUST TO HAVE INFORMATION
07:41:33 READY.
07:41:34 CATE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP ME.
07:41:36 I BELIEVE THOSE WERE THE -- WOULD BE EITHER, IF THEY
07:41:40 DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE LITIGATION OR --
07:41:45 >>CATE WELLS: I CAN HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT, RYAN.
07:41:46 WITH RESPECT TO THE THREE THAT WENT THROUGH THE FLUEDRA
07:41:49 MEDIATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 70.51 FLORIDA STATUTE.
07:41:54 SO WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT REZ 19-77 AT 5105 WEST
07:41:58 TYSON, REZ 19-69 AT 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, AND REZ
07:42:03 19-94 AT 6603 SOUTH TRASK.
07:42:08 THE UNIT COUNT THAT MR. MANASSE IDENTIFIED AND THE
07:42:12 RESULTING DENSITY WAS THE RESULT FROM THE SETTLEMENT
07:42:17 NEGOTIATIONS AND THE FINAL APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.
07:42:19 THE ONE AT 5301 WEST TYSON, THAT WAS DENIED BY CITY
07:42:27 COUNCIL LAST MONTH.
07:42:28 AND ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, WHEN
07:42:34 THE QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO DENSITY, THE CMU 35 ALLOWS
07:42:39 UP TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE.
07:42:41 IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO ABOVE THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BONUS
07:42:44 BY USING THE F.A.R., WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION BEFORE
07:42:49 YOU.
07:42:50 THANK YOU.
07:42:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
07:42:55 I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT TO THE
07:42:59 PETITION AT HAND.
07:43:00 SO THE 35.72 ACRES AT 5301 TYSON WAS THE ONE NEXT TO THE
07:43:09 CHLORINE PLANT THAT WE DENIED A FEW WEEKS AGO.
07:43:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
07:43:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
07:43:14 THANK YOU, CATE.
07:43:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I CAN CONTINUE.
07:43:19 SO THE AERIAL BEFORE YOU IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.
07:43:22 THERE ARE TWO OF THEM.
07:43:23 AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE OUTLINED IN RED.
07:43:25 THERE WERE NO NATIONAL LANDMARKS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
07:43:29 THAT IS THE OTHER DASHED LINE.
07:43:30 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WEST TYSON AVENUE.
07:43:33 THE SITE PLAN, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF PAGES THAT WERE --
07:43:38 I SENT OVER SOME HARD COPIES AS WELL AS THE DIGITAL
07:43:42 VERSION, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IF YOU DID HAVE
07:43:45 ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, THE GENERAL SITE AREA, AND THEN THE
07:43:48 DEPICTION OF THE RESTAURANT OR RETAIL SPACE AND THEN THE
07:43:51 APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITH THE AMENITY CLUBHOUSE.
07:43:53 AND THEN THE PARKING AND INTERIOR OF THAT.
07:43:55 AND THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE AREA, THE PLANTINGS AND THE
07:44:04 REQUIREMENTS AND SUCH.
07:44:05 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, BILL BORS IS ONLINE.
07:44:08 HE CAN ADDRESS ANY STAFF QUESTIONS.
07:44:10 AND THEN THIS WAS THE ACCESS PLAN FOR FIRE AS WELL AS
07:44:15 SOLID WASTE.
07:44:16 ELEVATIONS, I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW OF THEM, I'LL KIND OF
07:44:21 BLOW THROUGH THEM.
07:44:21 HERE IS THE EAST.
07:44:22 THE NORTH.
07:44:24 EAST.
07:44:25 NORTH ELEVATION, WEST ELEVATION AND SOUTH.
07:44:27 NORTH ON TOP.
07:44:32 SOUTH.
07:44:34 AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING NUMBERS WILL BE OUTLINED
07:44:37 AT THE TOP RIGHT.
07:44:38 EAST ELEVATION, WEST ELEVATION.
07:44:45 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE PHOTOS.
07:44:50 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH, AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING WEST DOWN
07:44:54 THE PRIVATE ACCESS AREA THAT JENNIFER KIND OF TALKED
07:44:57 ABOUT.
07:44:57 TYSON KIND OF ENDS TOWARD THE BEGINNING OF THIS, AND THEN
07:45:00 THIS GETS INTO THE PRIVATE ROADWAY.
07:45:02 NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, PICTURES.
07:45:08 EAST VIEW ON TYSON AVENUE AND TO YOUR LEFT SO THAT WOULD
07:45:13 BE GOING DOWN TOWARDS WESTSHORE.
07:45:15 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF, THE SECOND ADDRESS,
07:45:19 WHICH IS ON THE CORNER, SO DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE
07:45:22 BUILDINGS WOULD BE THE WATERWAY TO THE WEST AND THEN TO
07:45:24 THE SOUTH.
07:45:24 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTH ON THE LEFT, AND
07:45:29 THEN THIS IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE TOWARDS THE WEST
07:45:33 END.
07:45:34 THIS IS THAT RESTAURANT USE THAT'S OVER NORTH OF THE
07:45:36 SUBJECT SITE.
07:45:37 AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER PICTURE OF NORTH OF IT.
07:45:41 THE DIFFERENT USES.
07:45:44 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
07:45:47 THE PETITION, AND WE DO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY
07:45:49 OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
07:45:52 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
07:45:53 APPLICATION, THERE ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE
07:45:56 PLAN THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
07:45:59 READING TO INCLUDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE
07:46:02 STATEMENT ABOUT THE HURRICANE EVACUATION, THE SHELTER
07:46:06 WITH THE LAND USE POLICY 8.11.7 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
07:46:11 READING, IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN ANY MOTION, I WOULD
07:46:14 APPRECIATE IT.
07:46:15 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:46:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE
07:46:19 APPLICANT?
07:46:20 I SEE THE APPLICANT ONLINE.
07:46:24 WERE YOU SWORN IN, ELISE BATSEL?
07:46:28 >> NO, WE'LL HAVE OUR TEAM COME OVER AND BE SWORN IN,
07:46:32 SIR.
07:46:32 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
07:46:42 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
07:46:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:46:44 GO AHEAD.
07:46:46 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:46:47 BEFORE WE START, JUST ONE HOUSEKEEPING MATTER.
07:46:50 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT WE
07:46:53 WANT TO ADDRESS FOR COUNCIL.
07:46:55 AND WE WOULD REQUEST POTENTIALLY HAVING AN EXTRA FIVE
07:46:58 MINUTES FOR OUR PRESENTATION.
07:47:00 WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR ISSUES
07:47:03 AND QUESTIONS, AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY SAVE US A LITTLE
07:47:06 TIME IN THE LONG RUN.
07:47:08 WE WOULD APPRECIATE AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES.
07:47:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL?
07:47:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE EXTRA FIVE MINUTES.
07:47:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO GIVE EXTRA FIVE
07:47:20 MINUTES BY MR. MIRANDA -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:47:23 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:47:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
07:47:25 OKAY.
07:47:27 GO AHEAD.
07:47:29 >> MR. CREW, BEFORE WE START, CAN WE SHARE OUR SCREEN,
07:47:32 PLEASE.
07:47:33 IT WILL BE ON THE SUZANNE WALKER LOG-IN, IF YOU WOULD
07:47:36 ALLOW US TO SHARE OUR SCREEN.
07:47:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:47:50 GO AHEAD.
07:47:52 >> THANK YOU.
07:47:53 ELISE BATSEL, STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER.
07:47:56 I'M JOINED THIS EVENING BY THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
07:47:58 THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
07:48:03 AS YOU HEARD, IT'S 18.55 ACRES.
07:48:06 IT IS WEST OF WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, AND IT'S PART OF THE
07:48:09 OLD GANDY GATEWAY THAT'S BEEN SLATED FOR TRANSITION FROM
07:48:13 INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE SINCE THE 1980s.
07:48:15 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THIS WHOLE
07:48:19 AREA IS -- HAS BEEN DEVELOPING OUT AT COMMERCIAL MIXED
07:48:22 USE-35.
07:48:24 IN ADDITION, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE AREA TO THE NORTHEAST
07:48:27 IS UMU 60.
07:48:30 THAT'S THE WESTSHORE MARINA AND CMU 35 TO THE SOUTH.
07:48:34 BEFORE WE GO OVER THE PROJECT IN DETAIL, I WANT TO SPEAK
07:48:40 PARTICULARLY TO COUNCIL THAT WE, THIS APPLICANT HAD BEEN
07:48:44 LISTENING.
07:48:44 THEY HAVE BEEN LISTENING OVER THE LAST YEAR TO COMMENTS
07:48:46 BY COUNCIL, AND THEY'VE BEEN LISTENING TO COMMENTS FROM
07:48:50 THE COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE YOU WILL SEE THAT A REAL
07:48:52 CONCERTED EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO INCORPORATE ALL OF
07:48:56 THOSE COMMENTS INTO THIS DESIGN.
07:48:58 WE FIRST LISTENED TO YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPERS USING
07:49:02 F.A.R. TO MAX OUT DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS.
07:49:05 WE PROPOSE ON THIS SITE A MAX F.A.R. OF .88.
07:49:09 AND, IN FACT, I SPOKE WITH RYAN MANASSE BEFORE THIS
07:49:12 HEARING AND WE'VE ALSO AGREED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF
07:49:15 UNITS TO 649 JUST SO THAT WE WEREN'T GOING OVER THAT 35
07:49:20 UNITS PER ACRE.
07:49:21 WE DID MEET TWICE WITH THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WITH
07:49:25 MR. BROWN, THE PRESIDENT, TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND ISSUES
07:49:28 ABOUT THE PROJECT.
07:49:29 AND WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF BIKER VENTURES, THE SALT
07:49:33 SHACK, AND OLD DUTCH, WHICH ARE ALL OF OUR SURROUNDING
07:49:37 NEIGHBORS.
07:49:37 WE ALSO LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY'S REQUEST FOR A MIX OF
07:49:41 USES TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A SINGLE PARCEL.
07:49:44 TO THAT END, WE'VE PROPOSED A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT
07:49:47 INCLUDES OVER 2.0 ACRES OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
07:49:52 SO COUNCILMAN CITRO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE TOTAL
07:49:56 PERCENTAGE OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES AND MIXED USE FOR THE
07:49:59 SITE IS 10.94 PERCENT OF THE SITE.
07:50:01 TO INTRODUCE THE SITE, WE HAVE FIVE MULTIFAMILY
07:50:06 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
07:50:08 DUE TO FEMA, THEY WILL BE ELEVATED AND THERE WILL BE
07:50:11 PARKING UNDERNEATH THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
07:50:13 WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC BOARDWALK ALL THE WAY AROUND, THREE
07:50:18 SIDES OF THE PROPERTY ALL ALONG THE WATERFRONT AND WE'LL
07:50:20 ALSO HAVE TRANSIENT BOAT SLIPS SO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
07:50:24 CAN COME AND VISIT THE SITE.
07:50:26 JUST TO SEE THOSE A LITTLE UP CLOSE, YOU CAN SEE IN THE
07:50:30 RED THIS IS THE AREA THAT'S THE ONE ACRE EITHER
07:50:34 RESTAURANT OR RETAIL FACILITY.
07:50:36 IT'S REALLY UNIQUELY POSITIONED NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE A
07:50:40 COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT, BUT ALSO TO ENHANCE
07:50:43 THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS TO THE WATER.
07:50:45 AND THAT IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE RATTLESNAKE POINT
07:50:50 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES.
07:50:52 SECOND, THE AREAS IN PURPLE ARE THE PUBLIC WATERFRONT
07:50:56 WALKWAY.
07:50:57 THIS WILL BE OPEN, THIS PEDESTRIAN BOARDWALK, YOU'RE
07:51:00 GOING TO SEE SOME RENDERINGS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
07:51:02 BUT IT RUNS 2,097 SQUARE FEET ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY.
07:51:09 AGAIN, ENHANCING THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS TO THE WATER.
07:51:12 FINALLY, THE PROJECT INCLUDES TRANSIENT BOAT DOCKS ON THE
07:51:15 EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
07:51:17 YOU SEE THOSE IN YELLOW, WHICH WILL ALLOW PEOPLE NOT ONLY
07:51:20 TO DRIVE THEIR CAR TO THE SITE OR WALK OR BIKE TO THE
07:51:23 SITE, BUT ALSO TO BOAT TO THE SITE.
07:51:26 DENSITY AND INTENSITY ARE OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE THAT THIS
07:51:32 COUNCIL IS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED WITH.
07:51:35 WE UNDERSTAND BASED ON THE RECENT WORKSHOPS THAT COUNCIL
07:51:38 MAY BE CHANGING THESE POLICIES LEGISLATIVELY.
07:51:44 TONIGHT, I'LL GO OVER WHAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
07:51:47 WHAT'S PERMITTED BY THE COMP PLAN TODAY, AND WHAT'S
07:51:50 PROPOSED.
07:51:50 FIRST, PERMITTED BY RIGHT TODAY WOULD BE 808,000 SQUARE
07:51:55 FEET PLUS OF OFFICE, RETAIL, OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
07:51:59 THAT'S WITH NO OTHER LAND USE ENTITLEMENT.
07:52:03 THE MAX PERMITTED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS OVER A
07:52:08 MILLION SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
07:52:10 BUT THE MAX THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS .88 FLOOR
07:52:15 AREA RATIO, WHICH EQUATES TO 712,200 SQUARE FEET.
07:52:21 AGAIN, WE'VE AGREED TO BUMP THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 649 SO
07:52:25 THAT YOU FEEL CERTAIN THAT WE'RE STAYING UNDER THE 35
07:52:27 UNITS PER ACRE, AND WE ARE INCLUDING THE 5,000 SQUARE
07:52:32 FEET RETAIL RESTAURANT USE AS PART OF THE MIXED USE
07:52:35 COMPONENT ON THE PROPERTY.
07:52:36 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS ON THIS SITE.
07:52:40 THE APPLICANT WORKED REALLY HARD TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF
07:52:43 TO REALLY MEET EVERY PROVISION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
07:52:46 CODE SO THAT WE COULD REALLY FOCUS ON THE PROJECT.
07:52:50 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF CITY
07:53:01 COUNCIL'S RECENT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CHANGING AREAS SOUTH
07:53:03 OF GANDY, AND WE UNDERSTAND WHY THIS AREA CALLED
07:53:07 RATTLESNAKE POINT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER AREAS SOUTH OF
07:53:10 GANDY.
07:53:11 AS YOU KNOW, RATTLESNAKE POINT HAS BEEN SLATED TO
07:53:14 TRANSITION FROM INDUSTRIAL TO A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND
07:53:17 COMMERCIAL USES, AND THIS ACTUALLY STARTED BACK IN THE
07:53:20 1980S WHEN IT WAS KNOWN AS THE GANDY GATEWAY.
07:53:24 WE UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE CHAIRMAN MIRANDA CAN EXPAND ON
07:53:27 THIS, BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT WHEN YOU'RE COMING OVER THE
07:53:30 GANDY BRIDGE, WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING INVITING RATHER
07:53:34 THAN A BIG INDUSTRIAL AREA.
07:53:36 SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE PROVISIONS ORIGINALLY CAME INTO THE
07:53:39 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:53:40 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS GRAPHIC, THERE HAS BEEN A
07:53:44 TRANSITION OF THE AREA.
07:53:45 I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERY AMENDMENT THAT CITY
07:53:49 COUNCIL HAS APPROVED FROM 2002 TO 2020, BUT THERE HAVE
07:53:53 BEEN 11 AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS BY THIS COUNCIL, NOT TO
07:53:57 MENTION THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES, INCLUDING UMU 60 TO THE
07:54:01 NORTHEAST.
07:54:01 AND ALL OF THESE ACTIONS SOLIDIFY THE TRANSITION THAT IS
07:54:05 ALREADY IN EFFECT FROM INDUSTRIAL TO A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL
07:54:09 AND COMMERCIAL ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
07:54:11 AND UNLIKE THE OTHER AREAS OF SOUTH GANDY, YOUR
07:54:15 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIES RATTLESNAKE
07:54:20 POINT AS AN AREA FOR INFILL REDEVELOPMENT.
07:54:22 YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THE
07:54:28 MAJORITY OF THE POINT IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL MIXED USE-35,
07:54:33 AND EVEN TO THE SOUTH, THE HULA BAY PROPERTY, WHICH IS
07:54:36 ZONED INDUSTRIAL ISN'T USED AS INDUSTRIAL.
07:54:39 TO THE NORTHEAST YOU CAN SEE THE WESTSHORE MARINA WHERE
07:54:43 THREE TOWERS ARE BEING BUILT, AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE
07:54:46 WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB ALSO THREE VERY LARGE RESIDENTIAL
07:54:50 TOWERS IN THE PIPELINE.
07:54:51 YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS AND THE PLANNERS FROM THE
07:54:58 PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE FOUND THIS PROJECT TO BE
07:55:00 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMPATIBLE
07:55:03 WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
07:55:04 AND THAT COMPATIBILITY IN THEIR STAFF REPORTS INCLUDES
07:55:08 DENSITY.
07:55:09 WE HAVE ALSO SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD A PLANNING REPORT
07:55:11 BY CYNTHIA SPIDELL, OUR INDEPENDENT PLANNER AND HER
07:55:16 RESUMÉ IS ALSO IN YOUR RECORD.
07:55:17 I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO BE A PLANNER.
07:55:19 SHE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY
07:55:22 VERY QUICKLY JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
07:55:24 AND ONE IS, THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:55:27 OBJECTIVES, ALL OF THE POLICIES FOR RATTLESNAKE POINT,
07:55:31 WHICH ENCOURAGE THE TRANSITION OF RATTLESNAKE POINT
07:55:33 WATERFRONT AWAY FROM ITS CURRENT MIX OF INDUSTRIAL TO
07:55:37 RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT COMMUNITY.
07:55:41 AND THIS INCLUDES THE DESIRE TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S
07:55:44 ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT.
07:55:45 I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
07:55:46 IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CMU 35 LAND USE CATEGORY.
07:55:51 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF
07:55:54 THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT AND CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:55:56 MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICIES.
07:55:59 JENNIFER MALONE BRIEFLY MENTIONED IT, BUT THIS PROPERTY
07:56:02 DOESN'T FRONT ON A RIGHT-OF-WAY, TYSON AVENUE.
07:56:06 TYSON STARTS PRIOR TO GETTING TO OUR PROPERTY.
07:56:08 YET, THIS APPLICANT HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO CREATE A
07:56:11 REAL PEDESTRIAN AREA THAT MIMICS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE ON A
07:56:17 PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, EVEN THOUGH IT ISN'T REQUIRED UNDER
07:56:21 THIS DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO.
07:56:22 THERE ARE THREE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP OVER
07:56:26 AND OVER WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF GANDY, AND
07:56:28 WE JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEM.
07:56:30 ONE IS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
07:56:34 TWO IS HURRICANE EVACUATION.
07:56:36 AND THREE ARE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
07:56:38 SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE ONE BY ONE.
07:56:40 AS YOU KNOW, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN YOUR COMP PLAN
07:56:45 TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN SUCCESSFUL CITY BUILDING,
07:56:48 EVERYTHING IS INTERCONNECTED IN CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING
07:56:52 ELSE.
07:56:53 AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN AS A
07:56:55 GENERAL GUIDE TO DO JUST THAT.
07:56:58 WE CAN'T TAKE ONE COMPONENT OF A COMP PLAN WITHOUT
07:57:00 LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE COMP PLAN.
07:57:03 FLORIDA CASE LAW, WHICH HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE RECORD
07:57:06 ALSO SUPPORTS THESE PRINCIPLES, BRIEFLY IT PROVIDES THE
07:57:09 FOLLOWING.
07:57:09 WE CAN'T TAKE ONE PROVISION OF A COMP PLAN WITHOUT
07:57:13 CONSIDERING THE WHOLE COMP PLAN AND OWL OF THE POLICIES
07:57:15 THAT IMPLEMENT AN OBJECTIVE.
07:57:16 WHEN YOU RECONCILE STATUTES AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE
07:57:20 APPLICABLE TO THE INTERPRETATION -- I'M SORRY, STATUTORY
07:57:24 CONSTRUCTION IS APPLICABLE TO THE INTERPRETATION OF
07:57:27 COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE SPECIFIC OVER
07:57:30 THE MORE GENERAL.
07:57:31 SO COASTAL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.1, THIS IS THE ONE WE
07:57:37 ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT SAYS DIRECT FUTURE POPULATION
07:57:40 CONCENTRATIONS AWAY FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
07:57:44 HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THIS IN A REZONING CONTEXT?
07:57:47 THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION DEFINED AN OBJECTIVE AS
07:57:51 A STATEMENT OF MEASURABLE INCOME IN FURTHERANCE OF A
07:57:55 GOAL.
07:57:57 POLICIES ARE STATEMENTS OF INTENT WITH THE CLARITY
07:58:00 NECESSARY SO THAT YOU, CITY COUNCIL, CAN GUIDE YOUR
07:58:03 DECISION MAKING.
07:58:05 PLANNING COMMISSION INDICATES THAT THE ONLY POLICY
07:58:08 APPLICABLE TO REZONINGS AND TO THIS PARTICULAR
07:58:12 APPLICATION IS POLICY 1.1.6, WHICH REQUIRES THAT YOU
07:58:16 LIMIT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD TO USES
07:58:20 -- AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART -- THAT ARE SHOWN ON
07:58:22 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
07:58:24 THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY SLATED FOR 1.0 F.A.R.
07:58:28 OR 35 UNITS PER ACRE.
07:58:30 THE GREATER OF WHICH.
07:58:33 SO THE POINT -- THIS POINT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED ON MULTIPLE
07:58:36 OCCASIONS BY VARIOUS PLANNERS, BY YOUR PROFESSIONAL
07:58:39 PLANNERS, AND WE HAVE SUBMITTED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.
07:58:42 COASTAL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.2 TALKS ABOUT MAINTAINING
07:58:47 AND REDUCING HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIMES WITHIN THE COASTAL
07:58:51 HIGH HAZARD AREA.
07:58:52 AGAIN, THIS IS A GENERAL OBJECTIVE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
07:58:54 REZONINGS ARE REQUIRED TO MITIGATE THEIR IMPACT ON
07:58:58 SHELTER SPACE AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS A DIFFERENT
07:59:01 STANDARD FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS.
07:59:03 BUT TONIGHT, OUR OBLIGATION IS TO SHOW THAT WE WILL
07:59:06 MITIGATE OUR IMPACT ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR HURRICANE
07:59:10 SHELTER SPACE.
07:59:11 SO BEFORE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE MITIGATION, WE HAVE TO
07:59:14 TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
07:59:17 THE DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STATEWIDE PLAN FOR
07:59:20 2020, WHICH IS THE LATEST PLAN, WE CONFIRMED THAT WITH
07:59:23 THE CITY TODAY, SAYS THAT WE HAVE A DEMAND OF 52,316
07:59:29 SPACES.
07:59:29 THAT WAS 2020.
07:59:31 THE DEMAND FOR 2025 GOES UP TO 52,515 SPACES.
07:59:36 BUT CURRENTLY, AS OF THE LATEST PLAN, THERE ARE 77,309
07:59:42 SPACES.
07:59:43 NOW, WHEN WE GO IN TO PERMIT THE PROJECT, IF THERE IS A
07:59:47 DEFICIT AT THE TIME BECAUSE, WHO KNOWS, THIS PROJECT MAY
07:59:52 NOT BE PERMITTED FOR THREE YEARS AND THAT SCENARIO MAY
07:59:54 CHANGE.
07:59:55 THEN YOU HAVE A PROVISION IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
07:59:57 THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE MAKE MITIGATION PAYMENTS IN ORDER
08:00:00 TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
08:00:01 WE HAVE ADDED A NOTE ON OUR SITE PLAN REFLECTING THE
08:00:04 SAME.
08:00:04 I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER NOW TO STEVE HENRY WITH LINCKS &
08:00:08 ASSOCIATES, OUR PROFESSIONAL TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER TO
08:00:11 TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.
08:00:14 >> GOOD EVENING.
08:00:15 STEVE HENRY, LINCKS & ASSOCIATES.
08:00:17 5023 WEST LAUREL.
08:00:19 33607.
08:00:20 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION
08:00:22 CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:00:26 WE HAVE CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH
08:00:29 THE CITY'S PROCEDURES, BOTH THE METHODOLOGY AND THE
08:00:33 ANALYSIS FOR BOTH REVIEWED BY YOUR STAFF.
08:00:36 BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE FOR
08:00:39 THIS PROJECT IMPACT WOULD BE $153,623.
08:00:44 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE AGREED TO A CONDITION THAT
08:00:49 WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE FINAL CO OF THE PROJECT WE'LL
08:00:53 CONDUCT A SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS OR AT THE TIME THE CITY
08:00:56 REQUESTS IT, AND IF IT IS WARRANTED WE WOULD PAY OUR
08:00:59 PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE OF THE COST OF THAT SIGNAL.
08:01:01 ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE
08:01:07 EITHER HAVE BEEN DONE OR ARE PLANNED OR UNDER
08:01:10 CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA.
08:01:11 THE FIRST ARE THE ELEVATED LANES FOR THE GANDY BOULEVARD.
08:01:15 THOSE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SLATED TO BE OPEN
08:01:19 THIS YEAR.
08:01:20 THEN WE'VE GOT THE GANDY WESTSHORE INTERSECTION
08:01:23 IMPROVEMENTS.
08:01:24 THOSE ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
08:01:26 ELEVATED LANES.
08:01:27 WITH THOSE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE DELAY
08:01:31 AT THAT INTERSECTION.
08:01:32 IN ADDITION, YOU'VE GOT BRIDGE STREET THAT WAS RECENTLY
08:01:36 COMPLETED, AND THAT GOES FROM GANDY BOULEVARD TO TYSON.
08:01:40 THAT ACTS AS A RELIEVER AND PARALLEL FACILITY TO
08:01:45 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD FOR THE SEGMENT.
08:01:47 THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE THE SIGNAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT
08:01:49 THE INTERSECTION OF TYSON AND WESTSHORE.
08:01:53 FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPARISON OF THE
08:01:57 TRAFFIC FOR WHAT -- THE PROPERTY WHICH IS CURRENTLY
08:02:01 ZONED, WHAT IT COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR, VERSUS WHAT WE'RE
08:02:04 PROPOSING.
08:02:04 THE LEFT SIDE IS THE AM PEAK HOUR.
08:02:07 RIGHT SIDE IS THE PM PEAK HOUR.
08:02:09 THE GREEN SHOWS WHAT THE EXISTING ZONING WOULD ALLOW
08:02:14 VERSUS OUR PROPOSED.
08:02:16 YOU CAN SEE IN THE AM PEAK HOUR, THE EXISTING ZONING
08:02:19 GENERATES ABOUT 937 AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE
08:02:23 PROPOSING OF ABOUT 264.
08:02:26 IN THE PM PEAK HOUR, THE EXISTING WOULD BE 923 VERSUS
08:02:31 OURS 316.
08:02:32 SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS A SIGNIFICANT
08:02:35 REDUCTION IN THE TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE GENERATED BY THE
08:02:38 PROJECT BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
08:02:41 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CLARK.
08:02:51 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS CLARK.
08:02:55 4921 MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE 300, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33634.
08:03:00 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
08:03:02 I'M QUICKLY GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE FUN PART OF THE
08:03:04 PROJECT THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF.
08:03:05 AS ELISE MENTIONED, WE'VE LISTENED TO YOU ALL FOR MANY
08:03:10 YEARS.
08:03:10 WE'VE LISTENED TO COUNCIL.
08:03:11 WE'VE LISTENED TO STAFF.
08:03:12 REALLY, AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE PUT
08:03:16 TOGETHER A CORNERSTONE PROJECT FOR RATTLESNAKE POINT TO
08:03:20 GROW ON.
08:03:21 WE WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO PRESENT A PROJECT
08:03:23 THAT YOU CAN BE PROUD OF AND ONE THAT WILL SUCCESSFULLY
08:03:27 BEGIN THE TRANSITION OF RATTLESNAKE POINT.
08:03:30 THIS IS A VIEW OF OUR PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WE
08:03:33 HAVE DESIGNED TO BE THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF TYSON AVENUE.
08:03:37 WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT FELT THE NEED TO
08:03:40 BEAUTIFY THE STREETSCAPE, CREATE A SAFE, ENERGIZED
08:03:44 PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND PROVIDE STREET-LEVEL ACCESS TO
08:03:48 ALL THE UNITS ON THE BUILDING FRONTING TYSON.
08:03:52 THIS WILL ALSO PROVIDE FOR A NICE PUBLIC ACCESS CORRIDOR
08:03:55 TO GET TO THE WATERFRONT.
08:03:57 THE NEXT VIEW I'LL SHOW YOU IS THE TRANSIENT BOAT SLIPS.
08:04:04 AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
08:04:06 PUBLIC BOATERS TO ACCESS THIS FACILITY, AND THIS WILL
08:04:11 ALSO PROVIDE A PROMENADE AROUND THE PROPERTY FROM THE
08:04:14 EAST SIDE TO THE SOUTH SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE TO THE
08:04:18 RESTAURANT AREA THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK, FISH, SOMETHING
08:04:22 THAT WE FEEL LIKE HAD BEEN MISSING IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR
08:04:26 YEARS, AND IT WILL REALLY ALLOW THIS AREA TO GROW AND
08:04:29 REALLY BE ENERGIZED FROM THE PUBLIC STANDPOINT AND ALSO
08:04:32 THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE.
08:04:33 THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE WATERFRONT RESTAURANT THAT WE
08:04:42 LOCATED NEAR TO AND ADJACENT TO THE SALT SHACK.
08:04:46 WE CHOSE THIS LOCATION TO REALLY HAVE SOME HARMONIOUS
08:04:49 CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE TWO USES, AND OUR VISION FOR THE
08:04:52 RESTAURANT WOULD BE OPEN AIR, OUTDOOR SEATING, AND PLENTY
08:04:55 OF OPEN WATER VIEWS FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY.
08:04:58 WE REALLY BELIEVE THIS LOCATION WILL ALLOW FOR BOTH
08:05:02 RESTAURANTS THE MOST SUCCESS AND PROVIDE -- AND ALSO ON
08:05:06 THIS VIEW, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE PROMENADE THAT REALLY
08:05:09 TURNS INTO A 2,000-FOOT LINEAR PARK FOR THE PUBLIC TO
08:05:14 ACCESS AND TO REALLY ENJOY.
08:05:17 AND THE FINAL SLIDE I'LL GO THROUGH TONIGHT IS REALLY THE
08:05:24 -- WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING A HIGH-END COMMUNITY ON THE WATER
08:05:27 THAT WILL BE HIGHLY AMENITIZED FOR THE RESIDENTS TO
08:05:30 ENCOURAGE THE LONG-TERM SUCCESS, SUSTAINABILITY, AND
08:05:34 PROVIDE A REAL BLUEPRINT FOR THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF THE
08:05:38 DEVELOPMENT OF RATTLESNAKE POINT.
08:05:40 AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'LL END THE PRESENTATION OR I'LL
08:05:43 TURN IT OVER TO ELISE.
08:05:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH TIME DO THEY HAVE LEFT?
08:05:50 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:05:51 WE'LL WRAP UP.
08:05:53 MR. CHAIR AND COUNCILMEN, WE REALLY HAVE WORKED HARD ON
08:05:56 THIS PROJECT.
08:05:57 WE HAVE TRIED TO LISTEN TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU -- THE
08:06:00 INPUT THAT EVERYONE HAS HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR OR YEAR
08:06:03 AND A HALF ABOUT PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AND REALLY TRIED TO
08:06:06 INCORPORATE THEM INTO OUR DESIGN.
08:06:08 I THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD QUALITY PROJECT
08:06:11 THAT WILL NOT ONLY PROVIDE MIXED USE TO THE AREA BUT ALSO
08:06:14 ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS TO THE WATERWAY.
08:06:16 SO WITH THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE
08:06:21 --
08:06:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:06:22 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
08:06:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. BATSEL, YOU SAID THERE WAS 9% OF
08:06:30 RETAIL AND GREENSPACE?
08:06:33 >> NO, SIR.
08:06:33 MIXED USE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.
08:06:36 SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT A MIXED USE PROJECT,
08:06:40 IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS THE NONRESIDENTIAL.
08:06:42 THE NONRESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS WHICH INCLUDE THE PUBLIC
08:06:45 BOARDWALK, TRANSIENT BOAT SLIPS, AND THE COMMERCIAL
08:06:48 PARCEL WHICH COULD BE EITHER A WATERFRONT RESTAURANT OR
08:06:51 RETAIL, THAT'S 10.94% OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE
08:06:56 PROPERTY, SIR.
08:06:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT'S THE RATIO BETWEEN
08:06:59 THE RETAIL END OF IT AND THE MULTIFAMILY USE?
08:07:03 I BELIEVE THAT COMES OUT TO 7.02.
08:07:08 >> OKAY.
08:07:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT THE 9%.
08:07:10 THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR.
08:07:12 THANK YOU, MS. BATSEL.
08:07:13 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:07:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:07:15 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:07:15 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
08:07:19 GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:07:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:07:27 I'M GOING TO COMMIT THE CARDINAL SIN THAT ATTORNEYS ARE
08:07:34 TRAINED NOT TO DO.
08:07:36 LUIS WILL VERIFY THAT WITH ME.
08:07:39 I'LL ASK A QUESTION I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO.
08:07:41 MS. BATSEL, YOU HAD SOME -- YOU HAVE SOME PLANNERS THERE
08:07:50 WITH YOU.
08:07:51 YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH UP AND DOWN TYSON
08:07:55 IN THAT AREA.
08:07:58 PUTTING ASIDE THE COMP PLAN ANALYSIS THAT YOU DID IN
08:08:04 TERMS OF MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE, AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT
08:08:08 RIGHT NOW AT 35 UNITS PER ACRE YOU ARE AT THE MAXIMUM
08:08:12 ALLOWABLE DENSITY, WHICH I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT WAS NOT
08:08:20 NECESSARILY AN ENTITLEMENT, BUT THE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE.
08:08:25 ANYWAY, MY QUESTION IS, THE PROJECT -- AND I CAN'T
08:08:28 REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS EVENTUALLY NAMED -- BUT THE PROJECT
08:08:32 THAT HAS BEEN FAIRLY BUILT OUT UP THERE ON BRIDGE STREET
08:08:38 THAT CAME INTO US BACK IN THE MID 2000s AND THEN
08:08:45 TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
08:08:47 IT'S A BIG PD PROJECT UP THERE ON BRIDGE STREET WITH
08:08:50 PARTIAL MIXED USE COMPONENT.
08:08:52 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EVENTUALLY GOT BUILT OUT AT IN
08:08:57 TERMS OF DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE?
08:09:00 >> UNITS PER ACRE, I KNOW IT'S IN UMU 60.
08:09:05 NO, THAT'S NOT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
08:09:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FINE.
08:09:09 WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, WHAT DID IT GET BUILT OUT
08:09:15 ULTIMATELY?
08:09:15 IT CHANGED HANDS, THIS AND THAT.
08:09:17 IT GOT APPROVED AS A PD.
08:09:20 >> WE CAN FIND IT FOR YOU, SIR.
08:09:23 I'M SURE IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES, WE CAN FIND THAT ANSWER
08:09:25 FOR YOU.
08:09:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS OUR STAFF KNOWS OFF THE TOP OF
08:09:30 THEIR HEAD OR CAN FIND IT AS WELL.
08:09:33 BEFORE WE FINISH UP WITH THIS HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO
08:09:36 KNOW WHAT THAT WAS BUILT OUT.
08:09:43 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, NICOLE LYNN.
08:09:47 I CAN LOOK THAT UP FOR YOU.
08:09:48 I BELIEVE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WESTSHORE MARINA
08:09:53 DISTRICT.
08:09:53 IT'S Z 07-48, AND WE CAN LOOK THAT UP FOR YOU.
08:09:57 BUT TO QUICKLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT IS NOT
08:10:01 COMPLETED, THAT PROJECT, ALTHOUGH IT'S WELL UNDERWAY AT
08:10:05 THIS TIME.
08:10:05 SO WE CAN LOOK UP THE NUMBER.
08:10:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS THE
08:10:09 PD APPROVED AT IN TERMS OF THE PD DENSITY?
08:10:13 BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, UNLESS THEY HAVE A MAJOR CHANGE,
08:10:15 THAT'S WHAT IT WILL GET BUILT OUT AT.
08:10:18 I APOLOGIZE FOR ASKING THE QUESTION I DON'T KNOW THE
08:10:22 ANSWER TO.
08:10:23 IN REGARD TO MR. HENRY --
08:10:29 >> HE'S COMING BACK.
08:10:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I ASSUME HE'S STILL IN THE HOUSE.
08:10:34 >> YES, I'M HERE.
08:10:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. HENRY, HAD SOME HUGE DISPARITY
08:10:42 BETWEEN WHAT IT COULD BE AT ITS CURRENT USE, BUT I'M NOT
08:10:46 EVEN SURE WHAT IS THE CURRENT USE AND DID YOU CALCULATE
08:10:51 WHAT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC IS COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED
08:10:55 TRAFFIC?
08:10:57 I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, IF IT WAS BUILT
08:10:59 OUT AND TOTALLY OCCUPIED AS AN INDUSTRIAL USE OR
08:11:02 WHATEVER, WHATEVER USE IT'S BEEN, THIS IS THE MAXIMUM
08:11:06 TRAFFIC, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE STANDARD WAY TO LOOK AT
08:11:10 IT.
08:11:10 I'M CURIOUS, WHAT IS THE CURRENT USE, WHAT IS THE USE
08:11:14 THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING AS COMPARED TO
08:11:19 THE USE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED?
08:11:22 TRAFFIC-WISE.
08:11:24 >> OUT THERE TODAY, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 48,000 SQUARE
08:11:29 FEET OF INDUSTRIAL AND ABOUT 15, 16 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET
08:11:33 OF OFFICE.
08:11:34 THAT WOULD GENERATE OUT AT ABOUT 67 A.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
08:11:42 AND ABOUT 42 P.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
08:11:50 AS FAR AS A NET INCREASE, IT WOULD BE 197 IN THE MORNING
08:11:54 AND ABOUT 274 IN THE P.M. PEAK HOUR.
08:12:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THOSE NUMBERS.
08:12:03 YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY FRANK AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.
08:12:05 I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE I THINK
08:12:08 THOSE NUMBERS ARE RELEVANT AS WELL.
08:12:10 MS. BATSEL, HAS YOUR COHORT FOUND THE Z 48 -- Z 07-48 PD
08:12:24 YET?
08:12:26 >> YES, SIR.
08:12:26 WE'RE JUST DOING THE CALCULATION NOW.
08:12:29 >> IT'S 33 --
08:12:39 WHAT IT WAS APPROVED FOR IS 33 PER ACRE FOR THE
08:12:46 RESIDENTIAL AND, OF COURSE, IT ALSO HAD OFFICE,
08:12:49 COMMERCIAL, AND HOTEL USES ALLOWED.
08:12:52 IF YOU WANT THOSE I CAN GIVE --
08:12:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE NET ON THE TOTAL ACREAGE ON THE
08:12:59 ULTIMATE PD, THE PD IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK
08:13:02 IT CHANGED A FEW TIMES --
08:13:06 >> ACTUALLY, IT HAD THREE DIFFERENT ZONINGS AND THEN THEY
08:13:08 WERE COMBINED INTO THE ONE.
08:13:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I REMEMBER SOME PART OF THAT.
08:13:14 THE MOST RECENT IS THE '07?
08:13:16 >> YES, SIR.
08:13:17 07-48.
08:13:21 >> DO WE KNOW THE F.A.R. FOR ALL OF THOSE --
08:13:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU,
08:13:32 MS. BATSEL, YOU ARE NO STRANGER TO OUR PROCEEDINGS.
08:13:40 THERE'S EVEN A RUMOR THAT YOU WATCH THE PROCEEDINGS EVEN
08:13:43 WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION GOING ON.
08:13:45 [ LAUGHTER ]
08:13:47 >> ARE YOU CALLING ME A NERD, SIR?
08:13:49 IT'S OKAY.
08:13:51 I PROUDLY STATE THAT I'M A NERD.
08:13:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS
08:13:57 YOU'VE HEARD THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER AND OVER ON THESE
08:14:01 RATTLESNAKE POINT PROJECTS, AND THE COMMUNITY'S
08:14:07 OBJECTIONS WHICH I KNOW WE'LL HEAR SHORTLY AS RELATED TO
08:14:16 THE INTENSITY, THE TRAFFIC, JUST BASICALLY THE DENSITIES
08:14:25 OF THESE PROJECTS.
08:14:27 YET, YOUR CLIENT HAS DESIGNED A PROJECT WITH THE ABSOLUTE
08:14:32 MAXIMUM DENSITY.
08:14:34 I'M JUST WONDERING WHY.
08:14:38 ARE THESE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS AND COUNCIL CONCERNS
08:14:42 FALLING ON DEAF EARS?
08:14:44 I KNOW YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND ASK FOR THAT.
08:14:50 I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE A RIGHT OR ENTITLEMENT TO GET
08:14:52 IT.
08:14:52 BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WASN'T SOME
08:14:57 MODIFICATION WITH SOME LOWER DENSITY, AND IF IT HASN'T
08:15:05 BEEN DONE IS IT SOMETHING YOU MIGHT CONSIDER, YOUR CLIENT
08:15:09 MIGHT CONSIDER GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD A LITTLE
08:15:13 BIT WITH A CONTINUANCE AND COMING BACK WITH A LOWER
08:15:16 DENSITY.
08:15:16 >> SO LET ME TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT.
08:15:19 THAT IS NOT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY, 35 UNITS PER ACRE.
08:15:22 WHAT'S ALLOWED TODAY UNDER THE COMP PLAN IS 1.0 F.A.R.,
08:15:27 FOR 35 UNITS, WHICHEVER IS GREATER AT THE DEVELOPER'S
08:15:30 DISCRETION.
08:15:31 SO WE COULD HAVE COME IN AND ASKED FOR A LOT MORE.
08:15:33 AND WE SPECIFICALLY DID NOT DO THAT FOR THE REASONS THAT
08:15:37 YOU'RE TALKING TODAY.
08:15:38 WITH RESPECT TO LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS, A LOT OF THE
08:15:44 CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE HEARD IN PRIOR
08:15:47 HEARINGS ARE BASED ON TRAFFIC CONCERNS, HURRICANE
08:15:51 EVACUATION CONCERNS, AND THOSE ISSUES ARE DIFFERENT AND
08:15:56 PARTICULAR ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.
08:15:57 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT A GEOGRAPHICAL
08:16:01 MAP, RATTLESNAKE POINT IS CONNECTED NOT JUST BY
08:16:04 WESTSHORE, BUT NOW BY BRIDGE STREET.
08:16:07 THERE ARE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT MR.
08:16:09 HENRY COULD TALK ABOUT THAT YOUR OWN CITY STAFF'S
08:16:13 ANALYSIS SAY WILL REDUCE THE INTERSECTION WAIT TIMES BY
08:16:19 40% AT THAT INTERSECTION.
08:16:21 SO THIS IS UNLIKE OTHER AREAS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
08:16:25 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF ITS UNIQUE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION BUT
08:16:29 BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SLATED.
08:16:31 THIS COUNCIL -- MAYBE NOT THIS PARTICULAR MAKEUP -- BUT
08:16:35 THIS COUNCIL SAYS THIS IS WHERE THIS TYPE OF INTENSE
08:16:39 DEVELOPMENT SHOULD GO AS OPPOSED TO OTHER AREAS, RIGHT,
08:16:42 OF SOUTH OF GANDY.
08:16:45 SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE COMING FROM WITH THIS
08:16:47 APPLICATION.
08:16:50 AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING PUBLIC AMENITY SPACES AND
08:16:53 TRYING TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU ALSO HAVE TO PAY
08:16:55 FOR THOSE PUBLIC AMENITIES.
08:16:57 IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN A COST-EFFECTIVE MANNER
08:17:01 YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE DENSITY IN ORDER TO PUT
08:17:04 ALL OF THAT MONEY INTO THE PUBLIC SPACES, PUBLIC BOAT
08:17:08 SLIPS AND BOARDWALKS.
08:17:10 THOSE COST MONEY AND THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE THAT UP FROM AN
08:17:13 ECONOMIC STANDPOINT.
08:17:16 WITH RESPECT TO THE MIXED USE COMPONENT, WE REALLY DID
08:17:19 TRY TO PROVIDE A MIXED USE COMPONENT FOR YOU THAT WAS
08:17:22 BOTH SUSTAINABLE ECONOMICALLY FOR THE LONG TERM.
08:17:26 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT GREAT PERCENTAGES IN
08:17:29 MIXED USE PROJECTS, BUT RIGHT NOW, RETAIL IS STRUGGLING
08:17:33 AND THERE'S MORE AND MORE ONLINE SHOPPING.
08:17:35 SO WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK
08:17:38 AND NOT BE A SHELL OF A BUILDING, BUT BE A REAL USE THAT
08:17:41 PEOPLE COULD REALLY ENJOY.
08:17:43 SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS FAR AS
08:17:46 WHERE WE WERE COMING FROM WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
08:17:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
08:17:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:17:54 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:17:54 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR HAND.
08:17:59 YOU'RE MUTED.
08:18:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:18:04 MR. MANASSE, CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO SEE IF I
08:18:10 CAN GET SOME DIRECTION HERE ALONG THE SAME LINES THAT MR.
08:18:13 DINGFELDER WAS THINKING ABOUT.
08:18:14 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
08:18:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS THE -- THE F.A.R. RATIO AND
08:18:26 THAT UNIT SURROUNDING TYSON AVENUE, HAVE YOU HAD ANY IN
08:18:30 THE PAST THAT HAVE COME UP RECENTLY AND WHAT WAS IT
08:18:33 COMPARED TO THIS?
08:18:37 >>RYAN MANASSE: AS FAR AS -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN
08:18:40 MIRANDA.
08:18:41 ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE ONES WE LISTED OFF EARLIER?
08:18:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.
08:18:45 >>RYAN MANASSE: LIKE THE LAST ONE THAT WAS IN THE
08:18:46 PREVIOUS COUNCIL WAS REZ 20-66, THAT WAS AT 5301 WEST
08:18:52 TYSON AVENUE FOR 299 UNITS.
08:18:55 AT 8.37 ACRES, WHICH CAME TO 35.72 DWELLING UNITS PER
08:19:02 ACRE.
08:19:02 WOULD YOU LIKE THE OTHER ONES AS WELL?
08:19:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PLEASE.
08:19:07 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
08:19:08 REZ 19-94 AT 6603 SOUTH TRASK.
08:19:15 THAT WAS 205 UNITS WITH 10.51 ACRES FOR A TOTAL OF 19.51
08:19:23 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
08:19:24 THEN REZ 19-69 AT 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, 214 UNITS,
08:19:35 9.31 ACRES FOR A TOTAL OF 22.99 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
08:19:40 AND THEN REZONING 19-77 AT 5105 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
08:19:47 THAT WAS 325 UNITS, 11.9 ACRES, WHICH EQUATES TO THE
08:19:54 27.31 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, SIR.
08:20:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMETHING GETS IN MY MIND THAT THERE
08:20:05 WAS ONE, MAYBE IT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS DENIED.
08:20:08 I'M NOT SURE.
08:20:09 IT WAS LIKE HUNDRED UNITS LESS THAN THIS, LIKE 550
08:20:15 INSTEAD OF 650.
08:20:18 >>RYAN MANASSE: I DON'T RECALL, SIR.
08:20:19 THESE ARE THE ONES THAT I TRY --
08:20:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
08:20:22 I'M JUST TESTING MY OWN MIND HERE.
08:20:24 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZONING 20-66 WAS THE MOST RECENT.
08:20:28 THAT WAS DENIED, AS CATE DID CLARIFY, AND, COUNCILMAN
08:20:30 DINGFELDER, THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.
08:20:32 THE LAST THREE, 19-94, 19-69, AND 19-77 WERE DONE THROUGH
08:20:38 THAT SETTLEMENT.
08:20:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS ASKING, COMPARED TO THE OTHERS
08:20:43 THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, AND I'M NOT MAKING A COMPARISON,
08:20:46 JUST FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING FOR.
08:20:50 >>RYAN MANASSE: THIS ONE IS AT 35.04 DWELLING UNITS PER
08:20:55 ACRE.
08:20:56 JUST GOING TO CALCULATE THE DWELLING UNITS BY THE
08:20:59 ACREAGE.
08:21:00 THE LAST ONE, 20-66, THAT WAS RECENTLY DENIED WAS 35.72
08:21:06 PER ACRE, AND THAT WAS AT 1857 --
08:21:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE SURROUNDING
08:21:12 UNITS WERE, WHAT COMES INTO THE ACREAGE.
08:21:17 THANK YOU.
08:21:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
08:21:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:21:21 ANYBODY ELSE?
08:21:23 ALL RIGHT.
08:21:26 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
08:21:29 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN PERSON ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
08:21:32 I KNOW WE HAVE SIX REGISTERED SPEAKERS, I BELIEVE.
08:21:35 >> YES, WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
08:21:39 I WILL BRING THEM IN NOW.
08:21:40 THANK YOU.
08:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:21:46 >> WE HAVE THREE OF THE SIX WHO REGISTERED ONLINE THAT
08:21:49 ARE IN THE MEETING.
08:21:50 THEY CAN COME ON THE SCREEN TO BE SWORN IN.
08:21:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID WE HAVE SIX THAT ARE
08:21:56 REGISTERED ONLINE?
08:21:59 >>THE CLERK: SIX REGISTERED ONLINE.
08:22:01 THREE OF WHICH -- ONLY THREE OF WHICH HAVE SIGNED INTO
08:22:04 THE MEETING.
08:22:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO THE IN-PERSON FIRST.
08:22:07 WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE VIRTUAL.
08:22:10 SIR, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT-HAND, WE'LL SWEAR YOU
08:22:15 IN.
08:22:17 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
08:22:20 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
08:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:22:22 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
08:22:25 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
08:22:27 >> STEVE MEADOWS.
08:22:28 I'M THE TREASURER OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION OF PORT TAMPA.
08:22:31 DANGEROUS INDUSTRIES LIKE THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND
08:22:34 CHEMICAL PLANTS ARE USUALLY REASSURING US THAT THEY
08:22:38 EXCEED EVERY SAFETY REGULATION AND THEY ARE 100% SAFE.
08:22:43 WELL, IF ANYONE IS HURT OR KILLED BY AN INDUSTRIAL
08:22:47 ACCIDENT ON RATTLESNAKE POINT, A GAGGLE OF LAWYERS ARE
08:22:51 GOING TO WAVE THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING
08:22:54 WHERE CHEMICAL FORMULATORS TOLD YOU THAT IN NO UNCERTAIN
08:22:59 TERMS THAT IT IS A VERY, VERY BAD IDEA TO REZONE HIGH
08:23:05 DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO THEIR HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL
08:23:08 PLANT.
08:23:09 IF THE CITY'S DEFENSE IS, BUT IT WAS 499 FEET AWAY, THE
08:23:13 CITY IS GOING TO HEMORRHAGE MONEY SETTLING LAWSUITS.
08:23:17 THE CDC SAYS THAT A SMALL SPILL OF JUST 53 GALLONS PUTS
08:23:21 PEOPLE AT RISK, .2 TO .8 MILES AWAY.
08:23:26 .2 MILES IS 1,056 FEET.
08:23:30 THE CHLORINE PLANT IS ONLY 499 FEET AWAY.
08:23:34 AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME THERE ARE 10 TO 15 RAILROAD
08:23:39 TANKER CARS SITTING FULLY LOADED WITH CHLORINE.
08:23:42 THAT IS ABOUT 90 TONS OF LIQUID CHLORINE PER GAS PER CAR.
08:23:49 YOU DO THE MATH.
08:23:51 AND THESE APARTMENTS ARE ON THE END OF THIS TINY
08:23:54 PENINSULA.
08:23:54 THE CHEMICAL PLANT IS BETWEEN THEM AND SAFETY.
08:23:58 THEIR EVACUATION ROUTE IS THROUGH THE CHLORINE CLOUD.
08:24:01 THE ONLY ESCAPE IS BY BOAT.
08:24:04 HOW'S THAT GOING TO WORK?
08:24:06 AS MR. NOBLE TOLD YOU PRIOR TO 2016, THE COMP PLAN
08:24:11 PREVENTED ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON RATTLESNAKE
08:24:14 POINT UNTIL CHEMICAL FORMULATORS WAS NO LONGER PRESENT.
08:24:20 IN 2016, SOME LANDOWNERS GOT THE PLAN CHANGED WITHOUT
08:24:23 CFI'S KNOWLEDGE OR PARTICIPATION.
08:24:26 MR. NOBLE INFORMED YOU THAT HE IS UNAWARE OF ANY
08:24:29 RESIDENTIAL AREA IN ALL OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT IS
08:24:33 NEXT TO SUCH A VERY MASSIVE VOLUME OF VERY DANGEROUS
08:24:36 HAZARDOUS MATERIAL.
08:24:38 HE ALSO EMPHASIZED THAT THE PLANT IS NOT MOVING.
08:24:43 NOW, STEPHANIE POYNOR IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A CDC REPORT
08:24:50 ON HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL SPILLS SO YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING
08:24:53 THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.
08:24:56 I ACTUALLY HAVE A FRIEND, A LONG-TERM FRIEND THAT USED TO
08:25:00 WORK AT TRIDENT SHIP WORKS, WHICH IS THE BUILDING JUST TO
08:25:03 THE NORTH OF CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, AND THEY HAD A
08:25:07 CHEMICAL SPILL BACK -- I'M GOING TO SAY THE MID '90s.
08:25:11 NOT SURE EXACTLY OF THE DATE BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND
08:25:14 ANYTHING ON IT.
08:25:14 BUT ULTIMATELY HE ENDURED SEVERE LUNG DAMAGE FROM
08:25:19 INHALING CHEMICAL GAS AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE
08:25:23 HOSPITAL.
08:25:23 I TRIED TO GET AHOLD OF HIM TO SEE IF HE COULD TELL ME A
08:25:29 LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I COULDN'T REACH HIM.
08:25:32 AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT THE PROJECT IS USING A BONUS
08:25:36 DENSITY AND THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE IN THE CHHA, MUCH LESS
08:25:40 NEAR -- MUCH LESS NEAR A DEADLY CHEMICAL PLANT.
08:25:44 THE OTHER PROJECTS RECENTLY APPROVED IN THE CHA WERE 20
08:25:49 TO 27 UNITS PER ACRE, NOT ONLY ARE THEY PUTTING PEOPLE
08:25:53 NEAR THIS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CHEMICAL PLANT, BUT THEY
08:25:57 ARE ALSO DOING THIS AT MAXIMUM DENSITY.
08:25:59 THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE GOOD GOVERNMENT TO ME.
08:26:01 AT THE LAST REZONING, THE HEAD OF GULF STREAM YACHTS MADE
08:26:06 AN INTERESTING POINT.
08:26:07 THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WATERFRONT.
08:26:09 THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY AND WHEN IT'S GONE,
08:26:11 IT'S NEVER COMING BACK.
08:26:13 THOSE INDUSTRIES PROVIDE GOOD JOBS AND ESSENTIAL
08:26:16 SERVICES.
08:26:17 A LOT OF VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY WILL BE LOST IF YOU
08:26:20 ELIMINATE THE WATERFRONT INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS.
08:26:23 THANK YOU.
08:26:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:26:23 YES, MR. SHELBY.
08:26:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
08:26:29 MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST
08:26:32 IN GENERAL BECAUSE IT CAME UP JUST NOW.
08:26:35 I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION
08:26:38 AND ASK THE PUBLIC AS WELL FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE.
08:26:41 IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE IS SOME
08:26:44 CONFUSION THAT WHEN PEOPLE IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS
08:26:47 OFFICERS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE QUESTION IS,
08:26:49 ARE THEY SPEAKING INDIVIDUALLY OR ARE THEY SPEAKING ON
08:26:52 BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION?
08:26:53 AND IF SO, IF THEY ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
08:26:55 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WAS THIS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD
08:26:59 OR WAS THIS BROUGHT TO THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP AND WAS
08:27:02 THERE A VOTE AND WHAT WAS THE DETERMINATION?
08:27:06 I JUST WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES
08:27:09 RAISE THAT ISSUE AND COUNCIL DOES WANT A CLARIFICATION,
08:27:12 IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK IF THEY REPRESENT THAT
08:27:16 THEY ARE A MEMBER OR AN OFFICER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD
08:27:19 ASSOCIATION, NOT PARTICULARLY JUST IN THIS CASE, BUT IN
08:27:23 ALL CASES THAT THEY IDENTIFY IF, IN FACT, THEY ARE
08:27:25 SPEAKING INDIVIDUALLY OR THEY ARE SPEAKING FOR THE
08:27:28 ORGANIZATION AND IF SO, HOW.
08:27:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:27:31 MS. POYNOR, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, ARE YOU SPEAKING AS AN
08:27:42 INDIVIDUAL OR DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TAKE A
08:27:44 VOTE IN APPROVAL OR OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT?
08:27:47 >> NO, SIR.
08:27:48 THERE WAS NO MEETING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
08:27:53 I AM SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW,
08:27:58 JUST BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE DOESN'T MEAN THERE
08:28:01 AREN'T A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WATCHING WHAT WE'RE SAYING
08:28:04 AND SUPPORTING WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
08:28:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:28:06 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:28:08 >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
08:28:09 I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
08:28:11 I'M ALSO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD
08:28:13 ASSOCIATION.
08:28:14 I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MS. BATSEL -- CAN I HAVE AN
08:28:21 EXTRA MINUTE, PLEASE?
08:28:22 THEY GOT FIVE.
08:28:24 I JUST WANT ONE.
08:28:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WROTE US THE E-MAIL LAST WEEK
08:28:27 SAYING THE CITY COUNCIL IS MISERY.
08:28:30 >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
08:28:30 IT IS.
08:28:31 I FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOU ALL.
08:28:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANY OBJECTION, COUNCIL?
08:28:35 NO.
08:28:35 ALL RIGHT.
08:28:36 GO AHEAD.
08:28:36 >> THANK YOU.
08:28:36 GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.
08:28:38 I AM HERE ON VIDEO, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
08:28:41 THIS IS THREE THURSDAYS IN A ROW I'VE BEEN HANGING OUT
08:28:44 WITH SEVEN MEN.
08:28:45 MY HUSBAND IS GETTING JEALOUS, FRANKLY.
08:28:47 I'M EXHAUSTED FROM COMING HERE AND DRINKING FROM A FIRE
08:28:51 HOSE.
08:28:52 SPEAKING OF A FIRE HOSE, I REACHED OUT TO TAMPA PD
08:28:55 WITHOUT SUCCESS ABOUT SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS FOR
08:28:58 EVACUATIONS FOR RESIDENTS OF 649 UNITS IN THIS LOCATION
08:29:03 THAT IS 499 FEET FROM A CHEMICAL FORMULATORS.
08:29:10 REMEMBER THE CHLORINE PLANT?
08:29:11 499 FEET IS TWO TIMES THE DISTANCE THAT IS REQUIRED FOR
08:29:16 NOTIFICATION IN STANDING IN ONE OF THESE HEARINGS.
08:29:20 499 FEET IS LESS THAN .1 MILE AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY.
08:29:26 499 FEET IS HALF THE DISTANCE THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE
08:29:30 EVACUATION -- FOR EVACUATION BY THE CDC DURING DAYLIGHT
08:29:34 HOURS.
08:29:34 499 FEET IS ONE-EIGHTH OF THE DISTANCE REQUIRED AT NIGHT.
08:29:39 THE COMP PLAN STATES LU 8.10 -- BLAH BLAH BLAH.
08:29:50 GOOD GOD.
08:29:52 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES SHALL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER USES
08:29:56 OF UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY APPROPRIATELY DESIGNATED IN THE
08:30:01 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
08:30:02 RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN INDUSTRIAL LAND USES ARE
08:30:07 CONSIDERED TO BE NONCONFORMING.
08:30:08 YES, I DO REALIZE THAT THIS IS RATTLESNAKE POINT, BUT WE
08:30:12 DO HAVE -- WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM HERE BY NOT ADDRESSING
08:30:16 IT.
08:30:16 CEF HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF MOVING.
08:30:21 MR. NOBLE TOLD YOU THAT LAST WEEK.
08:30:23 I FIND THESE APARTMENTS AT THE DEAD END TO BE AN IRONY
08:30:27 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE KEEP SAYING ABOUT SOG.
08:30:31 WHAT HAPPENS IF CF HAS AN ACCIDENT?
08:30:33 HOW WILL YOU GET ALL THESE FOLKS FROM CF?
08:30:36 BY DRIVING BY THE HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL PLANT TO GET TO THE
08:30:40 EDGE?
08:30:40 CAN YOU SHOW MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
08:30:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN SEE IT.
08:30:45 >> WHO IS ENSURING EVERYONE IS EVACUATED THOSE 649 UNITS?
08:30:49 I'M NOT 100% ON MY NUMBERS BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD BACK
08:30:52 FROM ANYBODY, BUT NORMALLY SIX FIREMEN IN A FIRE STATION,
08:30:56 WE HAVE THREE FIRE STATIONS ON THE PENINSULA OF SOUTH
08:30:58 TAMPA.
08:30:58 THAT MEANS 18 MEN EVACUATING JUST THESE 649 UNITS.
08:31:05 -- THAT DOESN'T COUNT SALT SHACK AND THE OTHER 1200 UNITS
08:31:09 ON THE OTHER END OF THE RATTLESNAKE POINT.
08:31:13 SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE
08:31:16 EVACUATION IF THIS HAPPENS?
08:31:19 WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE EMERGENCY EVACUATION
08:31:21 TECHNIQUES?
08:31:22 THE TAMPA BAY -- OH, WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST?
08:31:26 WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT?
08:31:27 BECAUSE THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL EXPLAINED
08:31:30 TO ME THAT CF'S EMERGENCY STUFF, THEIR PLANNING, ENDS AT
08:31:38 THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
08:31:39 SO ALL THIS OTHER END OF TYSON IS OUR PROBLEM, THE CITY'S
08:31:45 PROBLEM.
08:31:45 THE TAXPAYERS' PROBLEM.
08:31:46 WHAT HAVE THEY GOT IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF IT?
08:31:50 BUT LET'S CHANGE GEARS FOR JUST A SECOND.
08:31:54 MS. BATSEL SAID THAT THEY ARE GIVING US 5K OF LAND, BUT
08:32:01 THEN THEY ADDED THIS WONDERFUL BOARDWALK TO THE PICTURES.
08:32:04 WELL, LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING.
08:32:06 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND OR NOT, BUT THIS
08:32:09 PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT HERE IS ALL FLOOD ZONE VE.
08:32:14 I DIDN'T KNOW EVEN KNOW WHAT VE WAS.
08:32:16 EVERY TIME I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE IT'S VE, THEY ARE LIKE,
08:32:19 "OH, WHAT'S THAT?"
08:32:21 THERE'S VERY LITTLE LAND IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT FALLS INTO
08:32:23 THE VE FLOOD ZONE.
08:32:25 THAT MEANS THAT THEY CANNOT BUILD ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF
08:32:28 THOSE BUILDINGS.
08:32:29 ALL THOSE REAL PRETTY PICTURES OF CAFE AND EVERYTHING
08:32:32 WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND ON THE BOARDWALK, NO,
08:32:35 THEY'VE GOT TO GO UPSTAIRS TO EAT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
08:32:37 BUILD ANYTHING DOWN THERE BECAUSE OF LEWA.
08:32:42 WE WANT OVERLAY DISTRICT.
08:32:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SANITIZE THE MIKE AND THE NEXT
08:32:53 SPEAKER.
08:33:14 >> BEFORE YOU START MY TIME, I WANT TO KNOW, DID YOU ALL
08:33:18 GET MY HANDOUTS THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SENT UPSTAIRS TO
08:33:21 YOU?
08:33:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE HAVE THEM.
08:33:23 >> AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO KNOW HOW DO I KNOW WHEN MY
08:33:26 SCREEN IS BEING SHARED?
08:33:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, I KNOW YOU WERE IN THE
08:33:30 BACKGROUND, BUT WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.
08:33:32 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
08:33:34 >> ALL RIGHTY.
08:33:35 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
08:33:39 >> YES.
08:33:40 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
08:33:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
08:33:42 WE HAVE THE HANDOUT IN FRONT OF US.
08:33:44 WE'LL FOLLOW ALONG.
08:33:45 >> HOW DO I KNOW WHEN MY SCREEN -- WHAT I'M PUTTING HERE
08:33:49 IS BEING SHARED?
08:33:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE IT.
08:33:51 WE SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED DOWNTOWN, WEST RIVER, SOUTH TAMPA
08:33:56 SHEET.
08:33:57 >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
08:33:59 I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
08:34:01 RECENTLY YOU'VE BEEN SHOWN POPULATION TABLES THAT SEEM TO
08:34:04 SHOW THERE IS NO PROBLEM IN SOUTH TAMPA.
08:34:06 WELL, THE COMP PLAN TALKS ABOUT GROWTH, SO HERE IS THE
08:34:09 TABLE FOR GROWTH.
08:34:10 SOUTH TAMPA HAS THE HIGHEST GROWTH IN THE CITY WHEN YOU
08:34:14 TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE TINY NUMBERS FOR DOWNTOWN
08:34:17 ARTIFICIALLY SKEW THEIR PERCENTAGES.
08:34:20 THIS VIOLATES THE COMP PLAN WHICH STATES THERE ARE SIX
08:34:25 LEVELS OF INTENSITY TO INDICATE WHERE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD
08:34:27 BE FOCUSED.
08:34:28 SOUTH TAMPA IS LEVEL ONE.
08:34:29 NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
08:34:31 ACCORDING TO THE COMP PLAN, WE SHOULD BE TENTH IN GROWTH,
08:34:35 NOT FIRST.
08:34:36 THE AREA SOUTH OF GANDY AND WEST OF DALE MABRY HAS
08:34:42 EXPLODED WITH MULTIFAMILY GROWTH.
08:34:45 ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, THERE WERE 3,858
08:34:50 MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN 2016.
08:34:52 IF ALL THE CURRENT REZONINGS ARE APPROVED, 4,389 MORE
08:34:57 MULTIFAMILY UNITS WILL BE ADDED IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
08:35:00 THAT IS A 115% INCREASE, MORE THAN DOUBLING THE
08:35:05 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
08:35:06 THAT AREA HAS GONE FROM 53% SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO 34%
08:35:11 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
08:35:14 NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
08:35:17 THERE'S A LOT OF TALK HERE ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT THE
08:35:22 COURTS LOOK AT HOW THE OWNER CAN DEVELOP AT THE TIME OF
08:35:26 PURCHASE.
08:35:26 THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY RIGHT THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS.
08:35:30 THE RESIDENTS HAVE PREEXISTING PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND THEY
08:35:32 HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THE ZONING WILL PROTECT THE
08:35:36 DENSITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
08:35:37 IF YOU HAVE TO GET A REZONING, THAT'S NOT A REASONABLE
08:35:41 EXPECTATION.
08:35:41 IT IS LAND SPECULATION.
08:35:43 BUYER BEWARE.
08:35:44 WE CANNOT SAFELY EVACUATION.
08:35:51 THE TRBC SAYS OUR EVACUATION TIME IS TWICE AS LONG AS
08:35:56 REQUIRED.
08:35:57 CITY COUNCIL'S NUMBER ONE JOB IS OUR SAFETY.
08:36:00 OUR SAFETY TRUMPS EVERYTHING ELSE.
08:36:03 IT CERTAINLY MUST BE DEFENSIBLE IN A COURT OF LAW.
08:36:07 DEVELOPERS WANT TO PUT A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE ON A
08:36:09 TEENY TINY PENINSULA WITH A DANGEROUS CHEMICAL PLANT IN
08:36:11 AN AREA THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW IS HAZARDOUS BECAUSE IT'S
08:36:14 RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME "HIGH HAZARD AREA."
08:36:17 AND THIS TEENY TINY PENINSULA IS ON A SECOND PENINSULA
08:36:22 WHICH IS THE MOST EVACUATION-CHALLENGED PART OF THE CITY.
08:36:25 WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
08:36:26 EVERY PERSON WHO SWEARS TO THAT YOU SOUTH TAMPA HAS NO
08:36:30 TRAFFIC PROBLEMS OR THEY SOLVED THE EVACUATION PROBLEM
08:36:32 WITH A BUS STOP AND SHELTER SPACE, WHICH THE WELL-HEELED
08:36:36 RESIDENTS WILL EAGERLY UTILIZE, THAT THE SELMON EXTENSION
08:36:41 SOLVES EVERYTHING, THAT DEVELOPERS ARE DOING US A FAVOR
08:36:43 WHEN OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS THEY CLEAN UP
08:36:45 OUR BLIGHTED NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WE ALL SECRETLY YEARN
08:36:48 FOR MONSTER APARTMENTS.
08:36:50 EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS GETTING PAID A LOT OF MONEY
08:36:53 FOR SAYING THOSE THINGS.
08:36:54 NONE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WRITE AND CALL AND ATTEND THESE
08:36:58 MEETINGS ARE BEING PAID TO SAY WE ARE DROWNING.
08:37:01 NONE OF US ARE ON THE CLOCK.
08:37:03 THAT RIGHT THERE IS A BIG CLUE ABOUT THE RIGHT THING TO
08:37:06 DO.
08:37:06 THANK YOU.
08:37:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:37:09 I BELIEVE THAT IS IT FOR IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
08:37:13 IF SO, MR. CREW, I KNOW WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS
08:37:19 LOGGED IN.
08:37:20 IF THEY COULD TURN ON THEIR CAMERAS AND WE CAN SWEAR THEM
08:37:25 IN.
08:37:27 >>THE CLERK: YES, THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS AND CAN NOW TURN
08:37:30 THEIR WEB CAMS ON, IF THEY WOULD, TO BE SWORN IN.
08:37:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:37:33 I SEE ONE GENTLEMAN.
08:37:39 IF YOU'RE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 5, PLEASE
08:37:49 TURN ON YOUR WEB CAM AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
08:37:52 OKAY.
08:37:57 THERE'S ONE PERSON MISSING.
08:38:02 OKAY.
08:38:03 THERE WE ARE.
08:38:03 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
08:38:06 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE
08:38:09 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
08:38:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:38:15 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
08:38:16 I SEE SHAWN, YOU GO FIRST, SIR.
08:38:24 >> ALL RIGHT.
08:38:24 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:38:26 IF POSSIBLE, STEPHANIE GAVE HER SOME STUFF TO PUT ON THE
08:38:31 OVERHEAD.
08:38:32 I'M NOT SURE IF SHE CAN STILL HEAR ME.
08:38:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE HAS LAND USE POLICY 8.11.6
08:38:40 HIGHLIGHTED.
08:38:42 >> OKAY.
08:38:42 PERFECT.
08:38:43 THAT'S GREAT.
08:38:44 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:38:45 APPRECIATE IT.
08:38:47 COUNCILMEN.
08:38:48 SHAWN BROWN, PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
08:38:52 I AM SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
08:38:55 THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION WAS NOT BRIEFED ON ANY OF
08:39:00 THIS DEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSAL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
08:39:05 ANY CONVERSATIONS OCCURRED JUST WITH MYSELF AND THE
08:39:10 DEVELOPER AND ELISE.
08:39:12 SO THE ASSOCIATION HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW
08:39:15 OR VOTE ON THIS MATTER AT ALL.
08:39:17 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DEVELOPER DID CONTACT ME,
08:39:22 BUT THEY REACHED OUT TO ME LAST WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY
08:39:24 3rd.
08:39:25 THAT WAS THE FIRST CONTACT WITH THEM TO DISCUSS THE
08:39:28 PROPOSAL.
08:39:28 DURING OUR CONVERSATION, THEY THOROUGHLY PRESENTED THEIR
08:39:31 PLANS AND ADDRESSED THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
08:39:33 I DO APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY
08:39:35 TO DISCUSS THIS DEVELOPMENT.
08:39:37 I DO ENCOURAGE ALL POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS TO REACH OUT.
08:39:39 HOWEVER, AREA OF CONTINUED FRUSTRATION IS THAT THESE
08:39:43 CONVERSATIONS OCCUR AFTER THE DEVELOPER HAS DESIGNED
08:39:46 THERE FOR THE PROPERTY.
08:39:48 JUST DAYS BEFORE AN ACTUAL HEARING.
08:39:52 REALLY, ANY KIND OF DIALOGUE NEEDS TO OCCUR BEFORE
08:39:56 SOMETHING IS DESIGNED IN ORDER TO TRULY SAY YOU RECEIVED
08:39:58 FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:39:59 I HEARD THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CITY
08:40:02 COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SUCH AND WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS
08:40:04 EXPECTING BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET THE EXPECTATIONS OF
08:40:07 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE
08:40:10 PROJECT.
08:40:10 NOT CITY COUNCIL.
08:40:12 NEVERTHELESS, KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S LIKE A
08:40:15 TEACHER GIVING EXAMS BEFORE, ALL EXAMS FOR THE SEMESTER,
08:40:19 THAT FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL AND THEN TEACH AFTERWARDS.
08:40:22 OKAY, NOW I'LL TEACH.
08:40:25 THIS DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE.
08:40:27 QUITE FRANKLY, THERE IS A PRIVATE SECTOR RESPONSIBILITY,
08:40:29 LAND USE POLICY 15.1.1 THROUGH 15.1.5 THAT SHOW, TALK
08:40:37 ABOUT WAYS THAT THEY SHOULD BE REACHING OUT AHEAD OF
08:40:40 TIME.
08:40:40 AT ANY RATE, THAT BEING SAID, THIS PROJECT, I HAVE --
08:40:46 THERE IS ONE CONCERN ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE THAT I
08:40:48 HAVE WITH IT.
08:40:50 LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION REPORT ANALYSIS, IT SAYS
08:40:56 LAND USE POLICY 8.11.6, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT
08:41:01 RATTLESNAKE POINT IS A LOCATED IN TCEA ANY AND ALL
08:41:05 REZONINGS AND/OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SHALL ALSO
08:41:07 ADDRESS THE MITIGATION AND TRANSPORTATION.
08:41:10 SUCH MITIGATION WILL BE SEPARATE FROM THE PAYMENT OF
08:41:13 TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES.
08:41:14 AS I REVIEW THE REPORT ON REZONING REQUEST, PAGE FIVE,
08:41:18 THERE IS NO DISCUSSION ON THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS FROM
08:41:20 THIS PROJECT.
08:41:22 REVIEWING THE ANALYSIS DONE DATED AUGUST 2022, THIS
08:41:27 DEVELOPMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL THE OTHERS IN THE
08:41:29 AREA PROPOSED WILL GENERATE, SLASH, ATTRACT APPROXIMATELY
08:41:34 4,097 DAILY END TRIPS FOR A NET INCREASE OF 3,682 DAILY
08:41:41 TRIP ENDS AS COMPARED TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE,
08:41:44 WHICH IS 415 DAILY END TRIPS.
08:41:47 THAT CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE A VERY LARGE INCREASE RIGHT
08:41:50 THERE THAT ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA ARE GOING
08:41:54 TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON.
08:41:57 NOW, IT SHOULD BE NOTED IN THAT REPORT ON PAGE 18, IT
08:42:02 STATES THAT SHOULD BE NOTED, THE INTERSECTION OF
08:42:03 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TYSON WILL BE ADDRESSED.
08:42:05 MAY I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE, PLEASE?
08:42:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
08:42:09 >> THANK YOU.
08:42:09 IT STATES IN THAT REPORT, SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE
08:42:13 INTERSECTION OF WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AND TYSON WILL BE
08:42:16 ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE ZONING CONDITIONS FOR THE
08:42:17 PROJECT.
08:42:18 NOW, WHEN I ASKED THE DEVELOPER THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS
08:42:20 PROJECT -- ON THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS INTERSECTION, THEY
08:42:22 ACKNOWLEDGED THAT PAYING THE PORTION OF THE REQUIRED FEE
08:42:25 IS APPROPRIATE -- CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR ADDRESSING
08:42:29 THE INTERSECTION, UTILIZING THE FEES GENERATED TO DESIGN
08:42:31 AND CONSTRUCT IMPROVEMENTS TO INTERSECTION -- NOW, WHILE
08:42:37 I DO NOT DISAGREE COMPLETELY WITH THIS, I DO ARGUE THAT
08:42:41 THE DEVELOPER WASN'T ADDRESSING THIS AS PART OF ZONING --
08:42:44 I CAN TELL HAS NOT.
08:42:46 THE TRANSPORTATION REPORT STATES THAT THE PROPORTIONAL
08:42:53 COST WILL BE DETERMINED WHEN ACTUAL PERMITS ARE
08:42:55 IDENTIFIED.
08:42:55 MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED EXPANDING
08:42:57 TYSON AVENUE TO MANHATTAN AVENUE AS TOP PRIORITY --
08:43:03 LIKELY NEEDS IDENTIFIED.
08:43:04 WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE DEVELOPERS TO FACTOR THIS?
08:43:08 WHEN YOU LOOK AT TOTAL COST, 153,000, THAT'S ONLY BASED
08:43:12 OFF OF THE WESTSHORE AND GANDY INTERSECTION AND GANDY AND
08:43:16 MANHATTAN INTERSECTION FEES.
08:43:18 NOTHING HAS BEEN FACTORED IN FOR TYSON AND WESTSHORE.
08:43:21 EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THEY MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT
08:43:24 THEY WOULD IN TWO YEARS, BUT IT WOULD BE QUITE NICE TO
08:43:27 HAVE SOMETHING FACTORED IN NOW INSTEAD OF --
08:43:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:43:32 >> THANK YOU, GUYS.
08:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
08:43:33 NEXT IS JEAN.
08:43:37 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:43:39 YES, GO AHEAD.
08:43:48 >> AN EXTRA MINUTE, PLEASE.
08:43:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
08:43:53 RECORD.
08:43:54 >> MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, A CITIZEN.
08:43:57 I AM A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, BUT I AM HERE
08:44:01 AS A CITIZEN TO OPPOSE YET ANOTHER REZONING REQUEST FOR
08:44:05 ANOTHER MEGA-APARTMENT COMPLEX.
08:44:08 WE SUBMIT TO YOU, ALL OF US, COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
08:44:12 EVIDENCE BACKED BY THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH
08:44:15 SHAWN POINTED OUT, WILL GENERATE ANOTHER 4,097 TRIPS ON
08:44:20 OUR FAILING ROADS, ASSUMING THE NEW GANDY OVERPASS WILL
08:44:23 SOMEHOW REDUCE TRAFFIC BY 30%.
08:44:25 BUT WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT.
08:44:27 THE STUDY ALSO SHOWED THAT PERMITS ARE REQUIRED AT THE
08:44:30 WESTSHORE GANDY, GANDY, MANHATTAN WE KNOW THE
08:44:33 IMPROVEMENTS $2.8 MILLION.
08:44:35 THEIR SHARE $153,000.
08:44:37 WOW.
08:44:38 IMPACT FEES ARE NOMINAL.
08:44:40 WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.
08:44:42 BUT WE THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OUR HOMEOWNERS WILL HAVE TO
08:44:45 PAY THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH OUR PROPERTY TAXES.
08:44:50 BUT AS WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER, THEY SAID 35% I THINK WAS
08:44:56 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND THE REST ARE APARTMENTS.
08:44:58 SO THE APARTMENTS AREN'T GOING TO PAY ANYTHING.
08:45:01 THEY PAY NOTHING.
08:45:03 WE DO AS TAXPAYERS.
08:45:03 ON OUR HOMES.
08:45:06 THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS WILL NOT HELP THE FAILED LEVEL
08:45:10 OF SERVICE ROADWAYS.
08:45:11 NO MATTER WHAT WE FAIL.
08:45:13 WE FALL BELOW THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
08:45:15 AND IT CAUSES UNDUE STRESS, BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT OUR
08:45:18 PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL STRESS BECAUSE THE CITY
08:45:22 DESIGNATED US AS A TRAFFIC CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA.
08:45:26 SO WITH THAT DESIGNATION, WE HAVE NO MORE PROBLEMS,
08:45:30 RIGHT?
08:45:30 NO.
08:45:31 NOT FOR US.
08:45:31 WE HAVE PLENTY OF PROBLEMS.
08:45:33 ALSO CONSIDER, BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEW MEGA-APARTMENT
08:45:37 COMPLEXES, IT WILL MAKE US HAVE TO DRINK TOILET WATER.
08:45:41 AGAIN, WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THAT NASTY THING.
08:45:45 WE REITERATE THE NEED FOR A MORATORIUM ON APPROVING ALL
08:45:48 THESE REZONINGS FOR MORE LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND
08:45:52 THIS ONE INCLUDED.
08:45:55 WE HAVE ALL THE CARPETBAGGERS AND LAND SPECULATORS COMING
08:45:59 IN HERE AND JUST LEAVING US TO PICK UP THE PIECES.
08:46:02 WE, THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH TAMPA, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY,
08:46:05 SOUTH OF GANDY, HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
08:46:09 WE WILL NOT ONLY HAVE TO PAY TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR MASSIVE
08:46:14 APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT WE WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES
08:46:17 FINANCIALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.
08:46:19 BUT THOSE CONSEQUENCES WILL BE ALSO DEADLY WHEN WE ARE
08:46:25 STUCK SITTING IN OUR CARS DURING AN EMERGENCY EVACUATION
08:46:28 AND THE WATERS FROM THE RISING STORM SURGE COME UP TO THE
08:46:31 WINDOWS IN OUR CARS AND THEN AS WE'RE ON TOP OF THEM,
08:46:36 THEY JUST KEEP CRAWLING UP 17 FEET PER THE STUDIES UP
08:46:41 UNTIL CYPRESS, WEST CYPRESS, WHEN WE HIT THE STORM SURGE.
08:46:46 THEN ONCE THE STORMWATERS RECEDE AND THE DEATH TOLLS ARE
08:46:51 MEASURED, THOSE WHO SURVIVE WILL ASK WHY AND HOW THE CITY
08:46:54 OF TAMPA LET THIS HAPPEN.
08:46:56 HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
08:46:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:46:59 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARTHA.
08:47:01 GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
08:47:04 >> MY NAME IS MARTHA IRA.
08:47:08 >> EXCUSE ME, SHE'S PART OF OUR REBUTTAL AND PART OF THE
08:47:11 APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL.
08:47:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, OKAY.
08:47:14 I'M SORRY, MA'AM.
08:47:16 YOU'LL HAVE YOUR TIME, BUT YOU'LL BE IN THE REBUTTAL WITH
08:47:19 MS. BATSEL.
08:47:21 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
08:47:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC
08:47:24 COMMENT?
08:47:25 MR. MANASSE, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.
08:47:28 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:47:30 OBVIOUSLY NOT PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE
08:47:32 QUESTION BEFORE WE WENT FURTHER TO MS. BATSEL'S REBUTTAL.
08:47:36 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE
08:47:38 WESTSHORE MARINA AREA AND STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THE
08:47:42 PDs AS WELL AS I BELIEVE ELISE BATSEL'S TEAM HAS BEEN
08:47:45 DOING THAT AS WELL ON OUR SIDE.
08:47:47 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MOST RECENT INCREMENTALS AND TOTALS.
08:47:53 ROUGHLY THAT PROJECT IS 52 ACRES, TAKEN OUT ROUGHLY ONE
08:47:57 ACRE FOR 38,474 SQUARE FEET FOR COMMERCIAL.
08:48:02 IT'S LEAVING US WITH THE 1225 DWELLING UNITS DIVIDED BY
08:48:05 THE 51 ACRES, LEAVING US 24 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
08:48:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YES, SIR.
08:48:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS
08:48:15 QUESTION FOR ME.
08:48:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GUDES, COULD YOU HOLD ONE SECOND?
08:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN I HOLD.
08:48:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON THAT JUST
08:48:25 FOR THE RECORD.
08:48:26 IS THAT THE SAME NEWPORT PROJECT THAT THE PETITIONER'S
08:48:35 PLANNER SPOKE TO AS 33 UNITS PER ACRE?
08:48:38 RYAN, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 24 UNITS PER ACRE.
08:48:45 >>RYAN MANASSE: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THE NEWPORT PDA
08:48:48 WAS Z 07-48.
08:48:50 PER THE PD, IT IS 33 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
08:48:53 THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THOUGH, THERE'S BEEN INCREMENTAL
08:48:55 REVIEWS AND BEEN A TALLY OF THOSE.
08:48:57 THAT'S WHAT STAFF HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO CALCULATE THOSE
08:49:00 TO GIVE THE BEST ANSWER WE COULD IN THIS TIME PERIOD.
08:49:04 WITH THE INCREMENTAL REVIEWS WE COME TO THE 1225 DWELLING
08:49:07 UNITS DIVIDED BY THE 51 ACRES, AND THAT'S ME TAKING
08:49:11 ROUGHLY ONE ACRE OFF FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USES, AND THAT
08:49:15 COMES TO THAT 24 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
08:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEING BUILT
08:49:21 OUT AT.
08:49:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: THERE ARE NUMEROUS INCREMENTAL REVIEWS
08:49:26 FOR THAT AREA.
08:49:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THAT IMPORTANT
08:49:31 CLARIFICATION.
08:49:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
08:49:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT
08:49:37 SPEAKERS MADE MENTION OF AN ACRONYM VE.
08:49:42 DO YOU RECALL THAT?
08:49:45 >>CATE WELLS: I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE MEMBER OF THE
08:49:47 PUBLIC WHO SAID THAT.
08:49:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAS IT MS. STOTTLEMYRE?
08:49:54 RYAN, DID YOU CATCH THAT ACRONYM, VE?
08:49:58 >> THAT WAS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
08:50:00 >> THAT WAS ME.
08:50:01 YES, SIR.
08:50:04 THERE ARE SEVERAL FLOOD ZONES, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND
08:50:07 EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS.
08:50:09 ACCORDING TO THE FEMA DOCUMENTS THAT I READ, THE VE FLOOD
08:50:14 ZONE CAN BE SUBJECTED TO THREE FOOT OR HIGHER WAVES
08:50:21 DURING A NORMAL PERIOD OF TIME.
08:50:25 ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD -- ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO I
08:50:30 CONSULTED WHO IS A FEMA EXPERT EXPLAINED TO ME THAT
08:50:33 THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH IN SOUTH TAMPA.
08:50:36 THERE'S CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT MORE UP NEAR -- STARTS WITH
08:50:42 AN O AND IT'S STILL IN THE CITY.
08:50:44 UP TOWARDS THAT WAY.
08:50:47 SHE SAID THERE'S ALMOST NO VE IN SOUTH TAMPA AT ALL.
08:50:51 AND SO THAT LITTLE BIT OF LAND, IT MEANS THAT THE
08:50:56 VELOCITY COMES UP MORE THAN THREE FEET.
08:50:58 AE, WHICH IS SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH,
08:51:02 THAT IS AN AREA THAT THE WAVES CAN BE MORE THAN A FOOT
08:51:08 AND A HALF TO THREE FEET.
08:51:09 AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT LIKE A
08:51:12 SORE THUMB TO ME.
08:51:14 PINELLAS HAS A SPECIAL DESIGNATION FOR A VE ZONE, WHEREAS
08:51:18 I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO.
08:51:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
08:51:20 THANK YOU.
08:51:20 MS. WELLS OR MR. MANASSE, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT OR DO
08:51:24 WE HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT?
08:51:31 >>CATE WELLS: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO
08:51:34 TESTIFY.
08:51:34 I'M HERE AS LEGAL COUNSEL TO THE CITY.
08:51:39 CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION TO RESPOND TO
08:51:43 ANYTHING THAT MS. POYNOR MENTIONED.
08:51:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE I'LL ASK THE --
08:51:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PETITIONER.
08:51:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- YEAH, WHEN THEY COME BACK.
08:51:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, JUST ONE MORE POINT JUST TO
08:51:57 CLARIFY.
08:51:58 I'M SORRY TO GO BACK.
08:51:59 THIS IS GOING WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S LAST QUESTION.
08:52:02 JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
08:52:05 ORIGINAL Z 07-48 WAS ENTITLED FOR THE 33 DWELLING UNITS
08:52:09 PER ACRE.
08:52:09 IT WAS BUILT AT 24, WHICH IS THE CALCULATION I DID THERE
08:52:12 THROUGH THE INCREMENTAL.
08:52:14 I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THE FLOOD ZONES, COUNCILMAN
08:52:20 GUDES.
08:52:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
08:52:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:52:23 WE WILL GO TO MS. BATSEL FOR THE REBUTTAL.
08:52:29 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:52:30 BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY ISSUES, WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE
08:52:34 ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADDRESS EACH AND EVERY ISSUE, IF YOU
08:52:36 DON'T MIND.
08:52:37 WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE?
08:52:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GAVE YOU AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES AT
08:52:42 THE BEGINNING.
08:52:43 HOW MUCH TIME ARE YOU ASKING FOR?
08:52:47 >> WELL, THERE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TESTIMONY ON ALL KINDS
08:52:50 OF TECHNICAL ISSUES, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TECHNICAL
08:52:52 EXPERTS THAT CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES, SO WE WOULD
08:52:55 LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO EACH OF THE ITEMS THAT
08:53:01 -- OF TECHNICAL NATURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS BROUGHT UP.
08:53:03 WE WOULD APPRECIATE AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES.
08:53:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:53:08 ANY OBJECTION?
08:53:09 GO AHEAD.
08:53:11 SO YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES TOTAL THEN?
08:53:14 OKAY.
08:53:14 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:53:19 NICOLE LAMB WITH OUR COASTAL ENGINEERS WILL START
08:53:26 RESPONDING.
08:53:27 >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
08:53:28 JUST REALLY QUICK.
08:53:29 WE HAVE OTHERS JUMP IN.
08:53:31 SO WITH REGARDS TO WHAT RYAN MENTIONED ON THE DENSITY,
08:53:35 SPECIFICALLY WITH WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT, AS I
08:53:38 MENTIONED BEFORE THAT PROJECT IS NOT COMPLETELY BUILT
08:53:40 OUT.
08:53:44 IT IS SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO
08:53:46 ACCOUNT.
08:53:47 THE AREA AS FAR AS THE FLOOD ZONE IS CONCERNED IS
08:53:50 ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED,
08:53:55 VELOCITY ZONES SHALL PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WE ALREADY
08:53:58 ADDRESSED WITH POTENTIAL DESIGN.
08:54:00 THE FIRST FLOOR OF ALMOST A UNIT SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING,
08:54:06 SO WE ARE PREPARED TO MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH
08:54:11 VELOCITY ZONES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:54:16 >>ELISE BATSEL: SECONDLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
08:54:23 DENSITY AS WELL.
08:54:24 >> CYNTHIA SPIDELL, STEARNS WEAVER.
08:54:30 I CAN APPRECIATE THE LITTLE ACCOUNTING LESSON THAT WAS
08:54:34 DONE.
08:54:34 HOWEVER, IT'S REALLY MISLEADING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
08:54:39 ACCOUNT FOR INTEGRATION OF MIX OF USES SO IT'S REALLY
08:54:42 HARD TO DELINEATE THE TWO.
08:54:44 I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT YOUR COMP PLAN FOR
08:54:46 CMU-35 AND FOR URBAN MIXED USE 60 WHICH IS WHERE
08:54:50 WESTSHORE MARINA IS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS YOU TO USE EITHER
08:54:54 THE F.A.R. OR THE DENSITY WHICHEVER IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO
08:54:56 THE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT SAYS IF YOU ARE GONNA USE F.A.R.
08:55:01 FOR RESIDENTIAL THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CHARACTER
08:55:04 AND SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT.
08:55:07 SO TO ME THAT MEANS HOW DOES IT LOOK, WHAT DOES IT LOOK
08:55:12 LIKE, NOT WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE UNIT.
08:55:16 YOU NEED THAT DENSITY TO SUPPORT YOUR SURROUNDING MIXED
08:55:19 USE ENVIRONMENT.
08:55:20 SO IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT THE
08:55:23 WRONG WAY.
08:55:23 YOU ARE TRYING TO LIMIT HOW MANY NUMBERS OF UNITS ARE
08:55:27 THERE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FORM, LOOKING AT
08:55:31 PROXIMITY, LOOKING AT AVAILABILITY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
08:55:34 THE COMP PLAN IS DIRECTING TO YOU DO AND WANTS YOU TO
08:55:36 HAVE PEOPLE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO GET THEM OUT OF CARS,
08:55:39 TO GET THEM FROM DRIVING, AND OUR ENVIRONMENT IS CHANGING
08:55:45 PEOPLE WANT DESTINATIONS, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO
08:55:49 GO OUT AND EXPERIENCE THINGS, AND NOT HAVE TO GET IN
08:55:51 THEIR CAR AND DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO GET SOMETHING.
08:56:00 THANK YOU.
08:56:00 >>ELISE BATSEL: A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES BEFORE WE
08:56:08 CONCLUDE.
08:56:09 UNDER FLORIDA LAW, CAN'T BE EXPECTED AS COMPETENT,
08:56:13 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ON ANY TECHNICAL MATTERS THAT WOULD
08:56:16 REQUIRE AN EXPERT OPINION, LIKE TRAFFIC, LIKE EVACUATION,
08:56:20 LIKE CHEMICAL FORMULATOR ISSUES.
08:56:25 FOR THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO -- INTRODUCE
08:56:29 YOURSELF AND GIVE YOUR EXPERIENCE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
08:56:32 >> OKAY, SURE.
08:56:34 I'M MARTHA IRA, I'M IN THE JACKSONVILLE OFFICE.
08:56:40 I HAVE BEEN A CONSULTING IN THE AREA OF HIGHLY REACTIVE
08:56:47 CHEMICALS FOR 25 YEARS AND I HAD 14 YEARS BEFORE THAT
08:56:50 WORKING IN AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY, METALLURGIST BY
08:56:55 DEGREE.
08:56:55 I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHAT TWO OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS
08:57:01 MADE.
08:57:03 TWO OF THEM WERE CONCERNED ABOUT EVACUATION PLANNING, AND
08:57:08 THEY BASED THEIR CONCERNS ON AN ASSUMPTION THAT IF THERE
08:57:12 WERE A RELEASE FROM CHEMICAL FORMULATORS THAT THE ENTIRE
08:57:17 POPULATION OF RATTLESNAKE POINT WOULD NEED TO BE
08:57:19 EVACUATED.
08:57:20 BUT RESPONSE TO CHEMICAL RELEASE AT THAT FACILITY IS
08:57:25 SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE TAMPA BAY LOCAL EMERGENCY
08:57:28 PLANNING COMMITTEE HAZARDS MATERIAL PLAN, THE 2020 OAPC
08:57:36 HAZ-MAT PLAN IS AVAILABLE ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND IT LISTS
08:57:40 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS AS ONE OF THE FACILITIES THEY WOULD
08:57:44 ADDRESS IN THE EVENTS OF AN ACCIDENTAL RELEASE.
08:57:46 AND THEY EXPLAIN IN THEIR PLAN THAT IF THERE WERE A LARGE
08:57:51 RELEASE OF TOXIC GAS, THE INCIDENTS COMMANDER WHO ARRIVES
08:57:54 ON THE SCENE WOULD MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT
08:57:58 EVACUATION OR SHELTER IN PLACE IS THE PROPER SPOT TO THAT
08:58:02 RELEASE.
08:58:03 AND THEY ALSO SPECIFICALLY STATE ON PAGE 7 OF THE PLAN
08:58:08 THAT FOR A LARGE RELEASE THEY WOULD NOT EVACUATE
08:58:13 RESIDENTS THROUGH A CLOUD OF GAS, THEY WOULD ISSUE
08:58:17 SHELTER IN PLACE ORDER FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT
08:58:20 TAKES FOR THE GAS TO DISSIPATE AND FOR THEM TO GET THE
08:58:24 RELEASE UNDER CONTROL.
08:58:25 SO THEIR CONCERNS ACTUALLY ARE IN THE PLAN THAT EXISTS
08:58:29 THAT IS UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
08:58:31 >>ELISE BATSEL: CAN WE HOLD ONE SECOND BEFORE QUESTIONS?
08:58:40 COULD WE SHARE THE SCREEN, MR. CREW, ONCE AGAIN, THAT
08:58:45 GOES ALONG WITH MS. ILER'S TESTIMONY?
08:59:01 OKAY.
08:59:08 THE GRAPHICS ARE HELPFUL.
08:59:09 I KNOW SOMEONE MENTIONED WE ARE 400 BOA, BUT ACTUALLY
08:59:14 THIS PROPERTY IS A THOUSAND FEET AWAY, 957 FEET FROM THE
08:59:20 RAIL CARS.
08:59:23 IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE TWO OTHER REZONINGS
08:59:30 THAT YOU RECENTLY APPROVED, BOTH AT SAGES, AND WESTSHORE
08:59:35 MARINA ARE ACTUALLY MUCH CLOSER.
08:59:39 840 FEET AND 319 FEET.
08:59:49 ALSO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT INDUSTRIAL
08:59:55 DEVELOPMENT HAS REDEVELOPED ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:59:57 THERE ARE AREAS LIKE CHANNELSIDE AND PALMETTO WHERE
09:00:01 LITERALLY YOU HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES WITH HAZARDOUS
09:00:06 CHEMICALS 190 FEET, 260 FEET.
09:00:09 THIS IS HOW TAMPA HAS DEVELOPED OUT OVER TIME.
09:00:20 WE HAVE GOT HARBOR ISLAND, AGAIN, SHORT DISTANCES.
09:00:29 AND WE HAVE GOT THE PORT OF TAMPA.
09:00:32 AGAIN, 12 -- LET'S SEE, 800 FEET, 500 FEET.
09:00:37 THE POINT BEING, THIS IS HOW INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS
09:00:40 REDEVELOPED IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER TIME.
09:00:46 THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE REGARDING TRAFFIC AND REGARDING
09:00:51 EVACUATION, AND I WOULD REMIND COUNCIL THAT COUNCIL HAS A
09:00:55 POLICY CHANGE TO TRANSPORTATION EXCEPTION AREA.
09:00:59 WE TALKED LAST YEAR ACTUALLY IN 2019 ABOUT POSSIBLY
09:01:02 CHANGING THE FEES.
09:01:05 IF COUNCIL FEELS THAT IS NOT ADEQUATE, YOU HAVE THE
09:01:08 LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THAT.
09:01:11 THIS PROJECT, WE MEET EACH AND EVERY STANDARD OF YOUR
09:01:16 CODE, EACH AND EVERY STANDARD OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
09:01:18 AND THERE IS NO COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ON THE
09:01:21 RECORD FOR THIS COUNCIL TO DENY THE REZONING REQUEST.
09:01:26 THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT DENSITY, BUT YOUR
09:01:29 PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS, YOUR CITY PLANNER, BOTH THE
09:01:31 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, AND BOTH OUR PROFESSIONAL
09:01:34 PLANNERS, ALL CONSIDERED DENSITY AS PART OF THEIR
09:01:38 DETERMINATION ON COMPATIBILITY, AND THAT IS THE ONLY
09:01:42 SUBSTANTIAL, COMPETENT EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED
09:01:45 INTO THE RECORD FOR THE DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY.
09:01:48 WE CERTAINLY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
09:01:50 I KNOW MR. DINGFELDER MIGHT HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL
09:01:52 QUESTIONS, AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY IF ANY OTHER
09:02:00 EXPERTS OR CITY STAFF MEMBERS ARE QUESTIONED TO REBUT
09:02:04 THAT TESTIMONY.
09:02:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:02:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:02:15 THANK YOU, MS. BATSEL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
09:02:22 I GUESS I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION FROM YOUR TESTIMONY,
09:02:26 AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS
09:02:31 REGARD
09:02:37 TELL US ABOUT A GAS CLOUD FROM A FACILITY LIKE THIS ONE,
09:02:42 BUT I UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY MANUFACTURED ENCLOSURE REASON
09:02:46 AND HAS SOME STORAGE AS WELL, IN TANKS AS WELL AS MOBILE
09:02:56 TRAIN CARS.
09:02:59 SO LET'S ASSUME A DAY THAT'S NOT WINDY, YOU KNOW, A
09:03:10 SUMMER DAY, THE WIND IS NOT BLOWING, AND LET'S EVEN
09:03:14 ASSUME THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SLIGHT WIND DIRECTION ONE
09:03:19 MILE-AN-HOUR TOWARD THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FROM THIS
09:03:24 PLANT, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID, I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE
09:03:28 THINGS FAIL, BUT IF SOMETHING BLOWS OUT, AND I SAW ON THE
09:03:33 NEWS IN THE LAST DAY OR TWO A NITRO GENERAL PLANT UP IN
09:03:37 GEORGIA HAD AN EXPLOSION -- I'M SORRY?
09:03:41 >> IT WAS A PLANT IN GAINESVILLE, GEORGIA.
09:03:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY HAD A CHICKEN PLANT AND THEY
09:03:48 LOST SIX PEOPLE RIGHT THERE AT THE FACILITY.
09:03:52 THAT WAS A DIFFERENT CHEMICAL, NITROGEN.
09:03:55 BUT TALK ABOUT WHAT A CHLORINE GAS DOES IN A VERY LOW
09:04:00 WIND ENVIRONMENT IN A SLIGHT, LET'S SAY, BREEZE GOING
09:04:04 WEST TOWARDS THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
09:04:08 AND I AM EVEN TALKING ABOUT EVACUATING THEM.
09:04:11 I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT IF THEY GET STUCK THERE AND IT
09:04:14 COMES BLOWING ACROSS THE ROAD AND THEN STARTS COMING INTO
09:04:16 THAT PROJECT?
09:04:17 IS THAT A CONCERN TO YOU?
09:04:19 IS THAT A GOOD PLACE TO BE BUILDING ANY TYPE OF
09:04:22 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF 35 UNITS PER ACRE?
09:04:28 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING?
09:04:30 I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING?
09:04:32 >> I'M NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO
09:04:34 BUILD A FACILITY.
09:04:35 THAT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE ENOUGH
09:04:38 INFORMATION TO SAY.
09:04:39 I MEAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO
09:04:42 MODEL THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO DO A CONVERSION MODEL,
09:04:47 SOMETHING REQUIRED TO BE DONE, IN FACT THE FACILITY
09:04:49 OWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO DO THOSE DISPERSION MODELS ONCE
09:04:53 EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND WORST CASE SCENARIO.
09:04:58 I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU AN ANSWER --
09:05:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING.
09:05:04 UP TO NOW, THE DIVERSION MODELS HAVE BEEN BASED UPON
09:05:08 NOBODY LIVING ANYWHERE NEARBY.
09:05:11 SO NOW WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL -- STAFF SHOWED US
09:05:19 THAT THERE'S SOME EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DOWN AT THE BOTTOM
09:05:24 OF THIS PROJECT DOWN THERE AT NEWPORT, WHATEVER THEY ARE
09:05:31 CALLING IT NOW, BUT THERE'S ONE PROJECTS THOSE FOLKS
09:05:34 COULD GO SOMEWHERE.
09:05:36 BUT LET'S SAY UNDER THE SCENARIO THAT I JUST DESCRIBED TO
09:05:39 YOU, LET'S SAY A VERY LOW BREEZE, 1 MILE-AN-HOUR, HALF A
09:05:45 MILE-AN-HOUR BREEZE, WEST OUT OF THE PLANT, WHAT DOES THE
09:05:48 CHLORINE DO?
09:05:49 DOES GOT UP?
09:05:50 DOES IT STAY DOWN?
09:05:51 WHAT DOES IT DO?
09:05:52 >> IT'S HEAVIER THAN AIR SO IT TENDS TO TRAVEL ALONG THE
09:05:55 GROUND.
09:05:56 BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TUSH REIGNS THERE IS IN
09:05:59 THE ATMOSPHERE AT THE TIME, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, WIND
09:06:03 DIRECTION.
09:06:03 IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE RELEASE RATE FROM THE CONTAINERS,
09:06:09 HOW FAST IS IT BEING RELEASED FROM THE CONTAINER?
09:06:11 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A VERY SMALL LEAK FROM THE VALVE ON
09:06:16 ONE OF THE TANK CONTAINERS? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE
09:06:18 WHOLE TANK CONTAINER OPENING?
09:06:20 THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF --
09:06:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY
09:06:26 PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WORST CASE SCENARIO.
09:06:29 LET'S SAY THE BIGGEST TANK BLOWS OUT, AND THAT GOES TO
09:06:36 THE GROUND IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION AT A LOW DISSIPATION
09:06:41 RATE.
09:06:42 WHAT HAPPENS?
09:06:42 >> WELL, IN THAT CASE, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU WOULD HAVE A
09:06:46 LARGE RELEASE AND IT COULD GO OUT FOR MILES FROM THE
09:06:49 POINT OF RELEASE, AND IN THAT'S A SCENARIO IN WHICH THEY
09:06:54 WOULD RECOMMEND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS WOULD RECOMMEND
09:06:56 SHELTERING IN PLACE, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANTS PEOPLE TO
09:06:59 COME OUT AND MOVE THROUGH THAT.
09:07:01 BUT THOSE KINDS -- AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I AM NOT
09:07:05 MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE
09:07:07 THAT'S NOT MY GOAL HERE.
09:07:09 BUT THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE
09:07:15 CITY, AND THROUGHOUT OTHER CITIES, AND THE PLAN --
09:07:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO ME, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT
09:07:26 THAT, AND THOSE AREN'T THE ISSUES IN FRONT OF US.
09:07:29 MY QUESTION, MY LAST QUESTION IS, OKAY, IF YOU ARE CLOSED
09:07:34 IN, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, STAY IN PLACE?
09:07:38 SHELTER IN PLACE.
09:07:39 IF I AM IN ONE OF THOSE APARTMENTS ON THE SECOND OR THIRD
09:07:42 FLOOR, WHATEVER IT IS, AND I HAPPEN TO BE UNFORTUNATELY
09:07:46 THE CLOSEST APARTMENT TO THIS CHEMICAL PLANT, AND I AM
09:07:49 SHELTERING IN PLACE, AND OF COURSE A BABY, I WOULD HAVE
09:07:59 THE INTELLIGENCE TO TURN ON MY AIR CONDITIONER, I DON'T
09:08:01 KNOW, BUT AM I SAFE SHELTERING IN PLACE LIKE THAT, OR IS
09:08:04 IT POSSIBLE THE CHLORINE COULD GET IN MY APARTMENT AND
09:08:10 KILL ME?
09:08:10 >> WELL, THE SHELTER IN PLACE WOULD BE BROADCAST OVER
09:08:18 TELEVISION, RADIO, WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO TURN OFF THE AIR
09:08:22 CONDITIONING AND SEAL THE DOORS, AND SEAL WINDOWS, THOSE
09:08:27 TYPES OF OPENINGS.
09:08:33 COULD IT GET IN AND KILL YOU?
09:08:35 I CAN'T SAY "YES" OR "NO" BECAUSE I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE
09:08:38 TO HAVE DATA ON THE RELEASE, THE AMOUNT OF CHLORINE,
09:08:41 ET CETERA.
09:08:42 I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU DO A WORST-CASE SCENARIO
09:08:49 ANALYSIS OR ALTERNATIVE RELEASE ANALYSIS, WHICH IS
09:08:52 REQUIRED BY DPA FOR THOSE FACILITIES TO DO AT LEAST ONCE
09:08:56 EVERY FIVE YEARS, YOU CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR ENCLOSURES THAT
09:09:03 STOP THE RELEASE OF THE CHLORINE OUT INTO THE
09:09:06 ENVIRONMENT, AND SO THERE IS A WAY TO CALCULATE THAT AND
09:09:09 TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW THE ENCLOSURE ATTENUATES THE
09:09:15 RELEASE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER HERE
09:09:19 WITHOUT ACTUAL DATA, YOU KNOW.
09:09:23 FROM A REGULAR STAND REGULATORY STANDPOINT, IT'S
09:09:28 INCUMBENT UPON THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY TO
09:09:31 KEEP THEIR FACILITY SAFE.
09:09:33 THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO SO BY THE EPA AND THE FLORIDA
09:09:35 STATUTE, BUT THERE'S ALSO THAT RULE WHICH BECAME
09:09:38 EFFECTIVE IN THE LATE 1990s.
09:09:41 SO THEY HAD 20 YEARS TO IMPLEMENT SAFEGUARDS TO KEEP
09:09:46 THEIR FACILITY SAFE.
09:09:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXPLICIT IN YOUR ANSWER TO ME SAYS
09:09:53 THAT IF I HAPPEN TO BE IN MY APARTMENT, AND I DON'T EVEN
09:09:57 KNOW THAT SYSTEM HAS BLOWN UP OR WHATEVER, AND I HAVE NO
09:10:03 WAY OF EVEN KNOWING THAT THE GAS CLOUD IS COMING TO ME,
09:10:06 AND I AM IN MY APARTMENT AND MY AIR CONDITIONER IS
09:10:08 RUNNING, THEN IMPLICIT AS YOU ARE SAYING OR NOT SAYING TO
09:10:13 ME IS THAT THAT COULD KILL ME.
09:10:16 IS THAT CORRECT?
09:10:20 >> WELL, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW.
09:10:24 IT DEPENDS ON THE CONCENTRATION.
09:10:26 IT CAN KILL YOU IF IT'S CONCENTRATED IF THE CONCENTRATION
09:10:33 RATES ARE HIGHER WHICH IS 10 D.P.M. BUT WHETHER OR NOT
09:10:37 THAT'S GOING TO MAKE TO THE THAT FACILITY UNDER THE
09:10:39 CONDITIONS THAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED, I DON'T KNOW.
09:10:41 SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU A DEFINITE ANSWER YES OR NO.
09:10:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
09:10:47 THANK YOU.
09:10:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:10:48 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:10:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. BATSEL, CAN YOU OR ONE OF YOUR
09:10:56 EXPERTS THERE MIGHT KNOW, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE
09:10:59 TALKING ABOUT VE, WHAT THE ACRONYM IS?
09:11:03 >>ELISE BATSEL: I WOULD ASK NICOLE LANG TO COME AND
09:11:06 ADDRESS THAT, PLEASE.
09:11:08 >> NICOLE: VE IS WITH RESPECT TO THE VELOCITY ZONE, IS
09:11:15 WHAT FEMA CALLS IT.
09:11:17 AND SO IT I HAD FACE THE AREAS ALONG THE COASTLINE WHICH
09:11:26 A MAP HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY FEMA JUST WITHIN THE LAST
09:11:29 YEAR.
09:11:30 IT ACTUALLY HAS ADOPTED THOSE.
09:11:34 THE MANAGER HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED THE USE OF THOSE AS
09:11:38 THE CURRENT CRITERIA, AND FEMA ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING THE
09:11:42 MOST RECENT.
09:11:44 THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED ON THOSE NEW MAPS INCLUDE
09:11:46 WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS A LIMWA LINE.
09:11:52 IT STANDS FOR LIMIT WE HAVE ACTION, MODERATE WE HAVE
09:12:00 ACTION.
09:12:00 IT IDENTIFIES THE LIMIT BASED ON MODELING, STORMWATER
09:12:04 MODELING FOR THAT COASTLINE, FOR WE HAVE ACTION TO
09:12:08 IDENTIFY AN AREA ON THE LAND THAT HAS WE HAVE ACTION UP
09:12:12 TO THREE FEET, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS
09:12:17 BETWEEN THREE FEET AND ONE AND A HALF FEET.
09:12:20 WE HAVE IDENTIFIED BOTH OF THOSE LIMITS ON THE SITE PLAN
09:12:23 THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION, AND THE STORM
09:12:27 EVENT ITSELF ACTUALLY SPEAKS TO THAT WE HAVE ACTION FOR
09:12:32 WHICH THE PLAN FOR THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES HAVE TAKEN
09:12:37 INTO ACCOUNT, SUCH THAT THE FINISHED FLOOR, BASED ON CITY
09:12:41 OF TAMPA CODE REQUIREMENTS, IS REQUIRED TO BE A FOOT EVEN
09:12:45 HIGHER THAN WHAT THAT WE HAVE ACTION OR THAT FEMA
09:12:49 ELEVATION IS IDENTIFIED ON THE MAPS.
09:12:52 DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
09:12:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS SO.
09:12:58 I AM JUST TRYING TO DIG OUT WHAT THE ACRONYM WAS, THE
09:13:02 DETAILS OF THAT ACRONYM.
09:13:03 YOU EXPLAINED IT TO ME SO I WILL JUST TAKE THAT INTO
09:13:06 CONSIDERATION.
09:13:06 >> OKAY.
09:13:08 AND I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION MAYBE WITH REGARD TO THE
09:13:11 FINISHED FLOOR.
09:13:13 I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT TOTALLY.
09:13:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
09:13:17 SO YES, EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
09:13:19 >> SO BASED ON CITY OF TAMPA CODE, THE FINISHED FLOOR
09:13:23 REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS THE FLOOR THAT YOU WOULD WALK ON,
09:13:26 SO YOUR TILE WOULD BE ON THE FINISHED FLOOR, OF THE
09:13:29 APARTMENT, SAY, THAT FINISHED FLOOR IS REQUIRED TO BE A
09:13:32 FOOT ABOVE WHAT THE 100 YEAR ELEVATION IS SHOWN, THE FEMA
09:13:36 ELEVATION SHOWN ON THE MAP.
09:13:38 SO SAY OUR ELEVATION IS AT 11, OUR FINISHED FLOOR
09:13:45 REQUIREMENT WOULD BE 12 NORMALLY.
09:13:47 WITHIN THE CODIA, THAT IS WATER WORD OF THE LINE, THERE'S
09:13:51 ACTUALLY ADDITIONAL CRITERIA BY CODE THAT ESTABLISHES
09:13:54 EVEN THAT FOUNDATION OF THE BUILDING IS REQUIRED TO BE A
09:13:58 FOOT ABOVE THAT ELEVATION.
09:14:01 SO IF THERE'S A PODIUM TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS
09:14:05 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THIS CASE, IN THAT ENTIRETY OF
09:14:08 THE FOUNDATION FOR THE FLOOR HAS TO BE A FOOT, THE LOWEST
09:14:12 MEMBER HAS TO BE A FOOT ABOVE THAT ELEVATION ON THE FEMA
09:14:16 MAP.
09:14:16 SO YOUR FINISHED FLOOR WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER THAN IF IT
09:14:19 WAS A FLAT ON GRADE.
09:14:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
09:14:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?
09:14:27 NO?
09:14:28 ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?
09:14:29 ALL RIGHT.
09:14:30 DO WE HAVE A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE?
09:14:35 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:14:37 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:14:39 FROM COUNCILMAN -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS HIS HAND UP.
09:14:43 YES, SIR?
09:14:46 MR. DINGFELDER.
09:14:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE WE CLOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO
09:14:51 REITERATE POSSIBILITIES TO MS. BATSEL.
09:14:55 I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS AN ACTUAL CLIENT IN THE ROOM.
09:14:58 I KNOW SHE HAS A LOT OF EXPERTS.
09:14:59 I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS A CLIENT.
09:15:01 THIS IS JUST ME TALKING.
09:15:03 BY MY CALCULATION, THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM
09:15:05 OUR STAFF SHOWS THAT THERE'S AN AVERAGE OF 23.45 DWELLING
09:15:12 UNITS PER ACRE ON AT LEAST FOUR NEARBY PROJECTS.
09:15:19 TYSON, TRASK, ONE ON INTERBAY.
09:15:24 23.45 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
09:15:28 HOW DO YOU GET TO 35 UNITS PER ACRE WITH F.A.R., OR
09:15:34 WHATEVER, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S STILL 35 UNITS PER
09:15:37 ACRE.
09:15:38 AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 11.55 UNITS PER ACRE HIGHER THAN
09:15:48 WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED IN THIS PAST YEAR OR SO, AND WHAT'S
09:15:53 BEING BUILT OUT AT 24 UNITS PER ACRE.
09:16:03 SO WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, THIS COUNCILMAN WOULD LOVE TO
09:16:08 SEE MS. BATSEL REQUEST A CONTINUANCE, GO BACK TO THE
09:16:12 DRAWING BOARD, AND COME BACK WITH A PROJECT THAT IS FAR
09:16:15 LESS DENSE, AND WHAT'S MORE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE
09:16:19 PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 27-136 WHICH SPEAKS TO CONSISTENCY
09:16:23 AND COMPATIBILITY, IN THAT RANGE OF DENSITY.
09:16:31 THE RESPONSE I GOT EARLIER WAS, WELL, WE HAVE TO MAXIMIZE
09:16:35 DENSITY IN ORDER TO BUILD OUT THESE AMENITIES, AND THAT'S
09:16:40 ALL FINE AND GOOD, BUT IN TERMS OF BEING CONSISTENT AND
09:16:44 COMPATIBLE, WHICH OUR CODE REQUIRES, I THINK YOU ARE FAR
09:16:49 OFF.
09:16:49 I THINK YOU ARE AT LEAST 25% HIGH.
09:16:53 SO THAT'S MY SUGGESTION, TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD,
09:16:58 COME BACK IN A MONTH FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, WITH A PROJECT
09:17:07 THAT'S LESS DENSE IN TERMS OF -- NOT ONLY DWELLING UNITS
09:17:12 PER ACRE BUT IT ALSO TRANSLATES INTO THE TOTAL TRAFFIC,
09:17:16 IT TRANSLATES IN THE TRIPS, PEAK HOUR TRIPS, IT
09:17:21 TRANSLATES INTO ALL OF THAT, WHICH ARE IMPACTS THAT ARE
09:17:23 BEING FELT AND TESTIFIED TO BY THE SOUTH GANDY
09:17:26 NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:17:27 >>ELISE BATSEL: WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE
09:17:35 INACCURATE AND HERE IS WHY.
09:17:37 I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
09:17:39 SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEARBY.
09:17:43 TRASK AND INTERBECAME ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE SITE.
09:17:46 THE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE CLOSER ON TYSON HAVE MUCH
09:17:50 HIGHER DENSITY.
09:17:51 IN ADDITION, NEWPORT FOR ALL THE COMMERCIAL THERE, OF
09:18:00 COURSE IF YOU HAVE 163,000 COMMERCIAL FEET OF COMMERCIAL
09:18:03 YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ROOM LEFT FROM AN F.A.R. POINT FOR
09:18:06 UNITS, SO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE
09:18:08 SIMPLY NOT ACCURATE NUMBERS.
09:18:12 YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE OF WHAT'S
09:18:14 CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE.
09:18:16 SO IF WE ARE --
09:18:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT YOUR ANALYSIS TO
09:18:22 RATTLESNAKE POINT AND THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT THAT'S
09:18:25 NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN
09:18:27 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTH OF GANDY COMMUNITY ALONG
09:18:30 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, ALONG WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, THEN YOU
09:18:33 DO PICK UP THE TRASK AND THE INTERBAY PROJECTS IN THE
09:18:37 WESTSHORE AREA.
09:18:38 SO WE COULD SPLIT HAIRS AND THAT'S FINE, AND I AM SURE
09:18:43 THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T NEED TO HEAR YOU AND ME HAVE THIS
09:18:46 KIND OF DISCUSSION OR ARGUMENT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY
09:18:48 FRIENDLY SUGGESTION ABOUT TAKING THIS BACK TO THE DRAWING
09:18:51 BOARD AND COMING BACK WITH A PROJECT THAT HAS MUCH
09:18:54 REDUCED DENSITY.
09:18:56 AND I DO BELIEVE THAT YOUR CLIENTS CAN STILL MAKE MONEY
09:19:01 DEVELOPING -- THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT MY DECISION.
09:19:05 THAT'S NOT THE BASIS OF MY DECISION.
09:19:09 BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT PEOPLE TO -- THAT'S ALL
09:19:18 FINE AND GOOD BUT THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.
09:19:20 >>ELISE BATSEL: COUNCILMAN, MY CLIENT IS HERE.
09:19:22 I DO THINK WE WOULD APPRECIATE A FEW MINUTES TO CHAT
09:19:26 ABOUT THAT ISSUE AND TALK.
09:19:29 SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US A SHORT RECESS, WE WOULD
09:19:31 APPRECIATE IT.
09:19:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE
09:19:33 RECESS.
09:19:34 THANK YOU.
09:19:44 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).
09:27:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
09:32:41 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:32:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:32:45 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:32:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:32:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:32:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:32:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:32:56 >>THE CLERK: THERE'S A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
09:32:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
09:32:59 MS. BATSEL, GO AHEAD.
09:33:01 >>ELISE BATSEL: I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
09:33:03 PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR RYAN MANASSE.
09:33:06 IF WE REQUEST A CONTINUANCE, WHEN WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET
09:33:09 BEFORE COUNCIL?
09:33:15 IN A MONTH FOR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
09:33:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF THERE'S TWO REVIEWERS, IT HAS TO BE
09:33:25 PUSHED OUT AND RE-REVIEWED, NOT LIKE A FULL-BLOWN DRC BUT
09:33:30 I WOULD PROBABLY NEED, YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING SIXTY DAYS.
09:33:35 IF THEY ARE CHANGES WE CAN DO BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
09:33:39 READING.
09:33:39 >>ELISE BATSEL: OKAY.
09:33:45 AND I HAVE ONE MORE VERY UNORTHODOX REQUEST.
09:33:49 WE ONLY HEARD ABOUT THE DENSITY ISSUE FROM COUNCILMAN
09:33:53 DINGFELDER.
09:33:53 SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE COUNCIL SPEAK ABOUT THAT
09:33:57 ISSUE SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS
09:33:59 A WHOLE ON WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR US TO COME BACK WITH,
09:34:03 WITH RESPECT TO THE DENSITY NUMBERS?
09:34:07 WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE GUESSING AND COME BACK BEFORE
09:34:09 YOU WITH SOMETHING AND THEN WE HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION.
09:34:13 AND SO WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MOWER INPUTS FROM COUNCIL,
09:34:20 PLEASE.
09:34:20 >>CATE WELLS: HAVE MARTY SHELBY PERHAPS ADDRESS THE
09:34:29 APPROPRIATENESS OF THAT REQUEST.
09:34:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S HAND UP.
09:34:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE IT, AND BELIEVE ME, MS.
09:34:40 BATSEL IS VERY NICE, SHE'S CERTAINLY A GREAT ATTORNEY AND
09:34:44 I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR A WHILE.
09:34:45 SHE'S VERY UPFRONT.
09:34:47 BUT I THINK FOR US TO ANSWER THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
09:34:50 I WOULD SAY THAT I CAN'T DO LEGALLY BECAUSE IF THIS GOES
09:34:54 SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN HERE, I DON'T WANTS SOMEBODY TO
09:34:57 SAY THAT I WOULD VOTE FOR IT AND I JUST CAN'T DO THAT.
09:35:04 I'M NOT A LAWYER.
09:35:05 I'M JUST A GUY ON THE STREET.
09:35:08 I CAN'T SAME IF I AM GOING TO PASS SOMETHING OR NOT PASS
09:35:13 SOMETHING.
09:35:14 >>ELISE BATSEL: I UNDERSTAND.
09:35:17 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:35:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
09:35:26 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YES, SIR.
09:35:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, WITHOUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S
09:35:34 WORDS ARE ALWAYS VERY WELL TAKEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A
09:35:37 CONCERN STATED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THAT APPEARS TO
09:35:40 BE CONSISTENT WITH A CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN STATED BY
09:35:43 COUNCIL BEFORE.
09:35:44 THE WAY I SEE THIS, WE HAVE A PROJECT WITH FINDING OF
09:35:48 CONSISTENCY, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, ADDRESSING
09:35:53 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S CONCERN, AS WE SAY REASONABLY
09:35:59 CALCULATED, IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP YOU
09:36:03 OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY, JUST FOR
09:36:08 MY OPINION.
09:36:09 AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, BUT
09:36:13 YOU DO HAVE A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY.
09:36:18 MY OPINION.
09:36:19 THANK YOU.
09:36:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:36:21 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE MY INDICATION OF
09:36:28 HOW I WOULD VOTE IN THE FUTURE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE A
09:36:32 COMMENT, THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT
09:36:36 THE COMMUNITY LEADERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS SAID AND
09:36:39 WHAT YOUR EXPERT SAID, AND YOU MIGHT WANTS TO -- SAID IT
09:36:45 WOULD HAVE NO BEARING ON THE VOLT, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE
09:36:48 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU MIGHT 2021 GET TOGETHER WITH THEM
09:36:50 WITH YOUR EXPERTS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT YOU
09:36:53 AGREE WITH OR WHAT YOU DON'T.
09:36:54 >>ELISE BATSEL: UNDERSTOOD.
09:37:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHAT WOULD THEN BE THE REQUEST, A
09:37:04 CONTINUANCE, OR WHAT DO YOU WISH TO DO?
09:37:07 >>ELISE BATSEL: YES, SIR.
09:37:09 A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TO COME BACK
09:37:12 WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN.
09:37:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:37:14 I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME.
09:37:17 WHAT IS THE 60 DAY OR CLOSEST TO?
09:37:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: MAY 13th.
09:37:29 MAY 13th IS THE FOLLOWING, NOT THE NEXT REZONING
09:37:34 CYCLE BUT 5-13 WOULD BE THE ONE AFTER THE NEXT.
09:37:49 I'M SORRY.
09:37:49 I'M JUST LOOKING AT CYCLES.
09:37:51 >>CATE WELLS: WE TALKED ABOUT 60 DAYS.
09:37:57 >>RYAN MANASSE: IT WOULD BE APRIL 8.
09:38:01 4-8.
09:38:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 22ND IS 60 DAYS OR SO.
09:38:07 THERE'S APRIL 22ND.
09:38:08 THERE'S MARCH 25th.
09:38:14 OR THERE'S APRIL 8th AS WELL.
09:38:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE OTHER TWO MEETINGS ARE ON AB NIGHTS,
09:38:21 SO COUNCIL IS AWARE.
09:38:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO APRIL 8th.
09:38:25 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:38:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO THINGS.
09:38:29 ONE, I WILL BE GLAD TO MAKE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS
09:38:31 TO APRIL 8th AT 6:00 IN THE EVENING.
09:38:35 IT CAN BE FIRST UP.
09:38:37 WE APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S AGREEMENT TO AT LEAST GO BACK
09:38:45 AND LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.
09:38:46 SECOND THING I WANTED TO DO WAS REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN
09:38:51 MIRANDA SAID IS THAT I MADE A SUGGESTION, THERE'S NO
09:38:57 GUARANTEE OF ANY VOTES.
09:38:59 I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR
09:39:01 ON THAT.
09:39:02 MY VOTE OR ANYBODY ELSE'S VOTE.
09:39:04 BUT THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY ON THAT.
09:39:08 BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL GOING BACK AND REVISITING
09:39:11 THAT ISSUE OR WHATEVER OTHER ISSUES YOU WANT TO REVISIT
09:39:15 IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
09:39:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS
09:39:18 ITEM.
09:39:19 WAIT, MR. MANASSE?
09:39:23 >>RYAN MANASSE: APRIL 8th IS THE REZONING NIGHT.
09:39:26 I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE, THIS CONTINUANCE WOULD BE
09:39:33 11.
09:39:33 I ADJUSTMENT WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
09:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
09:39:48 >>LUIS VIERA: AND JUST TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN
09:39:52 DINGFELDER SAID, MAKE SURE IN THAT MOTION TO PUT IT FIRST
09:39:57 ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK MS. BATSEL WORKS
09:40:02 THIS CASE PRO BONO.
09:40:03 SO TO MAKE SURE SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT HERE FOR A FEW
09:40:06 HOURS WITH HER CLIENT THAT'S ALREADY PUT TIME IN.
09:40:11 >>ELISE BATSEL: MY CLIENT SAID THANK YOU.
09:40:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING
09:40:17 THAT MOTION.
09:40:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU STATED IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW,
09:40:19 MAXIMUM OF TEN ITEMS PER NIGHT.
09:40:21 APRIL 8th IS 10 ITEMS.
09:40:24 MR. MANASSE, MAY 13th, OUT OF CURIOSITY?
09:40:30 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:40:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, CAN WE BUMP ONE OF THE
09:41:22 CASES FOR APRIL 8th TO A LATER DATE OR NO?
09:41:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: I HAVE NEVER DONE THAT, CHAIR.
09:41:31 I IMAGINE ANY ONE OF THOSE APPLICANTS MIGHT BE QUITE
09:41:35 IRRITATED IF THEY GET BUMPED OFF A CYCLE.
09:41:39 I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT AB NIGHTS, IF WE WANT TO REVISIT
09:41:44 THAT, INSTEAD OF BUMPING CASES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE
09:41:46 CYCLE FOR THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, YOU KNOW, TO GET IN FRONT
09:41:50 OF COUNCIL.
09:41:51 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
09:41:53 KIND OF LIKE MR. SHELBY WAS SAYING, I KNOW YOU GET TEN
09:41:56 NEW CASES AND IF WE DO IT THE WAY WE ALWAYS DID IT
09:42:00 BEFORE, IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT TEN AND YOU DIRECT STAFF TO
09:42:03 THAT AND WE TRY TO LIMIT TO THE TEN.
09:42:05 BUT AGAIN REZONINGS FOR APRIL 8th AND MAY 13th
09:42:08 ARE BOTH MAXED OUT AT TEN ALREADY AND WE ARE ACCEPTING
09:42:11 APPLICATIONS FOR JUNE 10th WHICH I'M ASSUMING ARE
09:42:14 GOING TO BE FILLED SOON.
09:42:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COULD WE PUT A REZONING ON AN
09:42:19 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE NIGHT OR NO?
09:42:21 LIKE THE 22ND?
09:42:23 >>RYAN MANASSE: I BELIEVE IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
09:42:26 I KNOW WE LIMIT IT AS STAFF JUST TO I BELIEVE WE HAVE
09:42:32 COUNCIL ADVISE US TO KEEP ALCOHOL ON ALCOHOL NIGHTS AND
09:42:35 REZONING --
09:42:36 >>> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I SEE YOU WAVING AND WAVING.
09:42:39 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
09:42:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO
09:42:48 BE FLEXIBLE AND THEY ARE UNDER A CONTRACTUAL CONSTRAINT,
09:42:52 AS MS. BATSEL INDICATED.
09:42:54 I DON'T KNOW THE DATES.
09:42:55 AND I DON'T REALLY CARE.
09:42:57 BUT STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE A CONTRACT ISSUE
09:43:00 THAT THEY NEED TO GET DONE WITH THIS REZONING AND CLOSE
09:43:06 ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
09:43:08 SO WITH THAT STATED, I THINK WE CAN'T BE HARD AND FAST ON
09:43:12 THIS TEN PER NIGHT RULE.
09:43:15 WE HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE OURSELVES.
09:43:18 SO MY MOTION IS FOR APRIL 8th.
09:43:20 LET'S JUST DO IT.
09:43:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:43:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR
09:43:25 CONCERN.
09:43:26 AND I RESPECT YOU HIGHLY.
09:43:28 BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED
09:43:31 ABOUT IT AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
09:43:36 IT'S ALREADY GOING ON 10:00.
09:43:38 I MEAN, WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE HERE TILL AFTER 11 OR
09:43:42 12.
09:43:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE TILL 1 A.M.
09:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO BE SAYING NO BECAUSE WE
09:43:52 HAVE TO AT SOME POINT START SAYING -- THIS IS NOT A PART
09:43:55 TIME JOB.
09:43:55 THIS IS A FULL TIME JOB.
09:43:57 THE CITY HAS GROWN.
09:43:58 WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES.
09:43:59 AND IT MAY BE A TIME TO CHANGE AND OPERATE SOME OF THE
09:44:04 THINGS WE ARE DOING, ONE NIGHT OF THE WEAK TO TWO TO KIND
09:44:07 OF GET THIS STUFF IN SO WE CAN ALSO FEEL COMFORTABLE
09:44:10 MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE PUBLIC AND SOME OF THESE
09:44:12 PETITIONERS.
09:44:13 IT DOES US NO GOOD TO BE HERE LATE NIGHT.
09:44:16 WE ARE TIRED.
09:44:18 YOU ARE TIRED.
09:44:18 UNSAFE.
09:44:19 AND MR. CHAIRMAN, AFTER TODAY, TO DISCUSS POSSIBLY HOW WE
09:44:25 ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE CASES WHEN
09:44:27 WE ARE NOT HERE AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING.
09:44:29 I THINK IT'S FAIR TO FAMILIES AND ALSO TO THOSE OTHERS AS
09:44:35 WELL.
09:44:35 I AM GOING TO SAY NO.
09:44:36 HOW THE VOTE GOES, I WILL RESPECT THE VOTE BUT I AM GOING
09:44:39 TO VOTE NO UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS.
09:44:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE.
09:44:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I AM TRYING TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS
09:44:46 I CAN WITH MY SCHEDULING WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
09:44:49 SO THE AB NIGHTS, SO YOU ARE AWARE ON 3-25, I HAVE A
09:44:53 REZONING GOING ALONG WITH JENNIFER MALONE.
09:44:57 YOU HAVE TPA THAT NIGHT AS WELL.
09:45:00 I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT ON THE AGENDA WITH
09:45:03 YOUR CPAs, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, AND THEN LIKE I
09:45:07 SAID, THE OTHER AB NIGHT IS 4-22 AND I ONLY HAVE ONE,
09:45:11 TWO, THREE, FOUR AB CASES ON 4-22, IF THAT HELPS COUNCIL
09:45:16 ANY.
09:45:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
09:45:17 MS. MALONE.
09:45:18 >>JENNIFER MALONE: APPROXIMATELY TEN PLAN AMENDMENTS
09:45:21 GOING.
09:45:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA, GO AHEAD.
09:45:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:45:33 I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN GUDES' COMMENTS.
09:45:45 [~DISTORTION~]
09:45:49 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN THE SENSE --
09:45:52 >>> WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
09:45:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES --
09:46:02 >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY MUST BE UPLOADING A VIDEO AT
09:46:05 YOUR HOUSE.
09:46:05 >>LUIS VIERA: [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] HOLD ON.
09:46:22 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:46:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S VERY CHOPPY AND VERY SLOW.
09:46:25 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:46:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, IT'S VERY SLOW.
09:46:38 >>BILL CARLSON: T MOBILE.
09:46:45 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
09:46:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:46:47 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING?
09:46:52 >> WE CAN HEAR YOU.
09:46:54 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
09:46:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:47:00 TWO HOURS ON THIS ITEM.
09:47:01 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
09:47:05 MY APOLOGIES.
09:47:08 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
09:47:11 OKAY WITH, REGARDS TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, I SUPPORT A LOT
09:47:14 OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE.
09:47:18 WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK THAT RAN 12 OR 13 HOURS.
09:47:22 AND I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE.
09:47:26 THERE ARE INCREMENTAL THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT.
09:47:28 I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD AS A BODY AND WHATNOT.
09:47:31 BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE ANY BEARING ON THIS
09:47:34 CASE.
09:47:34 I AGREE IN THE SENSE THAT HAVING TOO MANY CASES ON THE
09:47:37 AGENDA, WE TEND TO CONTINUE A LOT OF CASES, IT SEEMS.
09:47:40 BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A CROSS TO BEAR FOR THE
09:47:43 APPLICANT, GIVEN THAT OTHERWISE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT 90
09:47:48 DAYS AND I THINK THEY WOULD SUFFER PREJUDICE.
09:47:50 HOWEVER, COUNCILMAN, YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN AND I
09:47:53 THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE ON A LARGER SCALE.
09:47:55 JUST GIVING MY THOUGHTS.
09:47:56 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
09:47:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:02 SO APRIL 8th OR THERE'S THAT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE NIGHT
09:48:05 AFTERWARDS THAT HAS FOUR CASES ONLY, IF WE WANT TO
09:48:08 SQUEEZE IT IN THERE ON THE 22ND.
09:48:10 I KNOW IT'S NOT THE CONVENTIONAL THING TO DO, BUT IT
09:48:14 ELIMINATES THE BURDEN OF GOING PAST TEN CASES.
09:48:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, APRIL 22ND ON AN AB NIGHT?
09:48:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE COULD HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER IF
09:48:33 SHE CAN LIVE WITH THE 22ND.
09:48:35 >>ELISE BATSEL: YES, SIR, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
09:48:38 ACCOMMODATING US AND THE 22ND OF APRIL WILL WORK.
09:48:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:48:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST ON THE 6:00 AGENDA ON APRIL
09:48:51 22ND.
09:48:52 >>ELISE BATSEL: I DIDN'T REALIZE THE ACTUAL DATE.
09:48:58 THE 22ND OF APRIL IS TOO LATE FOR US CONTRACTUALLY.
09:49:01 I APOLOGIZE.
09:49:02 I MISUNDERSTOOD.
09:49:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST MAKE MY MOTION AND LET'S
09:49:06 GET A VOTE ON A CONTINUANCE FOR APRIL 8th.
09:49:09 AND --
09:49:11 >>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FIRST ON
09:49:13 THE AGENDA APRIL 8th.
09:49:14 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
09:49:16 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:49:21 OKAY, ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:49:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
09:49:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:49:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (NO RESPONSE).
09:49:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE LEFT.
09:49:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:49:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M ONLY VOTING YES FOR THIS ONE TIME,
09:49:41 BUT AT SOME POINT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
09:49:45 TO DISCUSS GOING TO AN EXTRA DAY A WEEK OR SIX TIMES A
09:49:51 MONTH MEETING.
09:49:54 THESE MEETINGS THAT LAST UNTIL 12, 1:00, 2:00, IS NOT
09:49:59 ONLY HARD ON US, IT'S HARD ON STAFF, IT'S HARD ON LEGAL,
09:50:03 AND IT'S HARD ON THE CITIZENS TO HAVE TO COME AND SIT
09:50:06 DOWN HERE UNTIL 2:00 IN THE MORNING TO GIVE TESTIMONY.
09:50:10 I'M VOTING YES, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
09:50:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:50:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:50:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES VOTING NO AND
09:50:21 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
09:50:22 >>ELISE BATSEL: THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
09:50:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:29 >> ARE WE OFF THE RECORD?
09:50:32 >> NO.
09:50:33 USUAL ON THE RECORD.
09:50:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE FINISHED WITH THIS CASE, THOUGH,
09:50:37 CORRECT?
09:50:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES [OFF MICROPHONE]
09:50:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE ALWAYS TEASED MS. BATSEL WHERE
09:50:48 SHE HANDLES THESE CASES SO SERIOUSLY AND SHE COVERED HER
09:50:51 MOUTH AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY SHE CHANGED HER FORM.
09:50:55 BUT SHE IS ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL.
09:50:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, ITEM NUMBER 6.
09:51:01 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 6 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-101,
09:51:06 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5100 SOUTH WEST SHORE
09:51:10 BOULEVARD, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL
09:51:12 SINGLE-FAMILY 75 RS-75 AND CI TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO
09:51:18 PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
09:51:20 RESIDENTIAL.
09:51:20 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU
09:51:23 WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
09:51:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
09:51:27 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
09:51:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU TURN THE VOLUME UP FOR MS.
09:51:32 MALONE?
09:51:32 WE CAN'T HEAR.
09:51:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS FILE 20-101.
09:51:47 WE ARE IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
09:51:49 THIS CASE IS ALSO WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
09:51:55 THE RATTLESNAKE POINT AREA IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY A
09:51:58 MILE TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
09:52:03 ALONG WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PAUL AVENUE.
09:52:07 WESTSHORE, YELLOW STAR IN THE CENTRAL PROJECT.
09:52:12 SOUTH OF THAT IS A PUPPY DAYCARE.
09:52:18 AND SOUTH IS REPAIR.
09:52:20 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN DOES
09:52:22 TRANSITION TO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS
09:52:25 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE FIND ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
09:52:29 THE SUBJECT SITE HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USE, COMMUNITY MIXED
09:52:35 USE 35 ON THE EASTERN PORTION AND RESIDENTIAL 10 ON THE
09:52:39 WESTERN PORTION IN THE ORANGE.
09:52:43 RESIDENTIAL 10 CONTINUES TO THE WEST, AND SINGLE-FAMILY
09:52:47 DETACHED.
09:52:50 ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD TO AN
09:52:55 URBAN MIXED USE 60 SO THAT IS A HIGHER DENSITY, SO THIS
09:52:59 IS KIND OF STEPPING DOWN EAST IN THIS AREA.
09:53:03 SO IT IS A SPLIT FUTURE LAND USE, SO THE APPLICANT SHOWED
09:53:10 ON THE SITE PLAN THE LINE WHERE THE LAND USE IS SPLIT,
09:53:14 AND CALCULATED OUT THE DENSITY CORRECTLY, SO IN THE
09:53:17 RESIDENTIAL 10 PORTION OF SITE PLAN IT DOES NOT EXCEED
09:53:20 THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY, AND IN THAT PORTION THE
09:53:23 APPLICANT --
09:53:26 WITHIN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 OF THE SITE PLAN, THIS
09:53:30 IS A PROPOSAL FOR 21 DWELLING UNITS.
09:53:34 I WILL MAKE A CORRECTION.
09:53:35 I THINK THAT OUR STAFF REPORT WAS A LITTLE OFF.
09:53:40 TOTAL ALLOWABLE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR IN THE PORTIONS
09:53:45 OF COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS 29 DWELLING UNITS, WITH 35
09:53:51 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE OR 24 AT 30 DWELLING UNITS MER
09:53:55 ACRE.
09:53:56 THAT WOULD BE OF THE 24 DWELLING UNITS, AND THEY ARE
09:54:00 PROPOSING 21 IN THAT PORTION.
09:54:02 THAT PORTION OF THE CMU-35 CAN ALSO BE CONSIDERED FOR
09:54:05 COMMERCIAL USES BECAUSE IT IS THE PORTION CURRENTLY ZONED
09:54:09 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
09:54:10 SO WE DO HAVE THAT ALONG SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND
09:54:13 THAT MIXTURE OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY ACROSS
09:54:17 THE STREET AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA.
09:54:20 WE DID FIND THAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ADDRESSES THE
09:54:23 APPLICABLE POLICY DIRECTIONS TO THE PLAN.
09:54:26 THE ORIENTATION OF THE UNITS WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE
09:54:29 POLICY DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PLAN.
09:54:31 THERE'S SOME PUBLIC ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS WITH
09:54:37 INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
09:54:39 THE PLAN ALSO SUPPORTS PROVIDING HOUSING ALONG THESE
09:54:41 CORRIDORS, AND PROVIDING HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING
09:54:46 POPULATION, AND IT DOES PROVIDE THAT TRANSITION WITHIN
09:54:51 THE SITE THAT IS SPLIT IN THAT REGARD.
09:54:54 SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN, THE FUTURE LAND USE,
09:54:58 THE SURROUNDING AREA IN THIS POLICY.
09:55:01 THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
09:55:03 THANK YOU.
09:55:03 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
09:55:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:55:05 ANY QUESTIONS?
09:55:08 MR. MANASSE?
09:55:10 >>RYAN MANASSE: CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
09:55:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:55:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE REZ-20-101
09:55:27 INFORM 5100 SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND THEY ARE
09:55:30 REQUESTING REZONING FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING FROM RS-75
09:55:35 AND CI TO PD ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
09:55:38 THEY ARE REQUESTING FOUR WAIVERS THROUGH THIS PETITION.
09:55:41 THE FIRST BEING A REDUCTION IN MINIMUM SIDE YARD.
09:55:44 THAT'S BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS, OR I'M SORRY,
09:55:49 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNITS IN 27-162, AND THEN
09:55:56 I'LL SHOW YOU AS WELL NOT ALIGNING WITH THE STREET
09:56:00 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
09:56:01 THE LAST TWO WAIVERS ARE REFERRING TO SOME OF THE NATURAL
09:56:03 RESOURCES THAT ARE REQUIRED, AND NATURAL RESOURCES STILL
09:56:06 FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT
09:56:09 COORDINATION, TO CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION.
09:56:14 THE 1.24-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER
09:56:17 OF SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND WEST PAUL AVENUE.
09:56:20 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMUNICATION TOWER TO THE
09:56:23 NORTH, AND CG AND CI ZONING DISTRICT, COMMERCIAL AND
09:56:27 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH, IN THE CI,
09:56:30 AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 75 ZONING DISTRICT, AND
09:56:34 THEN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST AND THE
09:56:37 RS-75 ZONING DISTRICT, AND THEN MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL
09:56:41 USES TO THE WEST AND CI DISTRICT.
09:56:44 THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING FIVE FOUR STORY HOMES FOR A
09:56:53 TOTAL OF 24 DWELLING UNITS, EACH UNITS CONTAINING A TWO
09:56:56 CAR GARAGE.
09:56:56 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS SHALL SOUTH 8 FEET, WEST 10 FEET,
09:57:00 EAST 30 FEET, NORTH 8 FEET.
09:57:02 THE PROPOSED BUILDING HIGHLIGHT IS 45 FEET.
09:57:04 A TOTAL OF 56 PARKING SPACES INCLUDING GUEST SPACES ARE
09:57:09 REQUIRED AND THEY ARE BEING PROVIDED THROUGH COMBINATION
09:57:12 OF GARAGE AND SURFACE PARKING.
09:57:14 AND I KNOW GENERAL I HAVE SHOWED YOU A COUPLE MAPS AND I
09:57:17 WILL SHOW YOU MINE AS WELL.
09:57:18 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS OR LOCAL OR NATIONAL
09:57:23 WITHIN A THOUSAND FOOT RADIUS AND SHOWING YOU THE SUBJECT
09:57:26 SITE, YOU SEE PAUL AVENUE TO THE NORTH AND WEST SHORE
09:57:29 BOULEVARD TO THE WEST.
09:57:32 AND GOES STREET TO STREET.
09:57:35 SITE PLAN AND THEN TO EXPLAIN WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO
09:57:38 WITH THE WAIVER, THESE THREE UNITS IN THE CENTER OF THE
09:57:40 SITE PLAN YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY ARE NOT ORIENTED TOWARDS
09:57:42 THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR THEM TO
09:57:45 DO IN THE THIS KIND OF CONFIGURATION.
09:57:47 THE REST OF THE UNITS ARE ABUTTING THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY FOR
09:57:50 THAT CODE SECTION.
09:57:55 IF YOU ARE ON PAUL AS WELL AS GLOVER AVENUE.
09:58:00 I'M SORRY, FRANCIS.
09:58:04 AND THEN THERE'S AN ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.
09:58:23 AND HERE IS THE SITE AS IT CURRENTLY IS ON THE LEFT, A
09:58:27 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME.
09:58:28 AND THEN THIS IS THE ANTENNA THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO OR
09:58:31 THE COMMUNICATION TOWER TO THE NORTH ON THE RIGHT-HAND
09:58:33 SIDE.
09:58:34 JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU A VIEW NORTH ON WESTSHORE
09:58:37 BOULEVARD AND THEN SOUTH ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
09:58:40 THERE'S THAT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY THAT'S ACROSS THE
09:58:41 STREET.
09:58:42 THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT JENNIFER DID STATE
09:58:45 ABUTTING THIS AREA.
09:58:48 ANOTHER VIEW OF LOOKING SOUTHEAST AT THE PROPERTY.
09:58:52 AND THEN THERE'S A BETTER LOOK ON THE RIGHT, WEST OF THE
09:58:55 SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS THAT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
09:59:00 THE LEFT PICTURE IS VIEWING EAST ON WEST PRINCE AVENUE
09:59:04 AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THAT COMMERCIAL USE AS
09:59:06 WELL.
09:59:09 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
09:59:12 APPLICATION AND FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:59:14 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
09:59:15 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
09:59:17 WAIVERS, AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE FURTHER
09:59:20 MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
09:59:23 READING AS STATED IN THE REVISION SHEET OF THE STAFF
09:59:25 REPORT.
09:59:26 IF YOU DO APPROVE THAT MOTION IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE
09:59:30 THE REVISION SHEET IN THE MOTION AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE
09:59:32 FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
09:59:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
09:59:36 TIME?
09:59:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.
09:59:42 MR. MANASSE, ON THE SITE PLAN, THERE IS A SECTION BETWEEN
09:59:47 ONE ROW OF -- OF TWO CAR GARAGES AND THE OTHER IS A
09:59:55 MEASUREMENT OF 5.7.
09:59:59 IS THAT A WALKWAY, A BREEZEWAY?
10:00:05 >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT REFERS TO THE WAIVER.
10:00:08 LET ME JUST PUT IT BACK ON SCREEN.
10:00:10 SO THIS IS THE 27-152 TO ALLOW MINIMUM SIDE BUILDING YARD
10:00:16 FROM 11 FEET PER THAT SECTION TO THE 5 FEET BETWEEN UNIT
10:00:19 6 AND 7.
10:00:20 SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE
10:00:22 REFERRING TO -- SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WAIVER IS COMING
10:00:28 FROM.
10:00:30 AND THE APPLICANT DID REDESIGN THIS AFTER DRC TO TRY TO
10:00:35 GET SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THESE BUILDINGS BECAUSE
10:00:37 ORIGINALLY THEY WERE ALL TOGETHER AND STAFF SUGGESTED
10:00:41 SEPARATION.
10:00:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE IS ALWAYS A PUBLIC SAFETY, AND I
10:00:48 KNOW THAT FIRE TENDS TO ASK FOR CERTAIN WIDTHS BETWEEN
10:00:53 BUILDINGS.
10:00:54 DOES THAT ADHERE TO THAT SAFETY AND FIRE REQUEST?
10:00:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: FIRE DID REVIEW THE PLAN AND SAID THEY
10:01:03 MUST MEET ALL FDA REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO PERMITTING BUT I
10:01:07 DIDN'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO THIS RELATED PD.
10:01:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MANASSE.
10:01:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:01:15 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:01:16 ALL RIGHT.
10:01:18 MR. HORNER AND MR. HOLLIS, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT
10:01:23 HAND AND BE SWORN IN BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
10:01:25 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE
10:01:29 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:01:32 >> I DO.
10:01:33 >> I DO.
10:01:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:01:34 GO AHEAD.
10:01:35 >>MICHAEL HORNER: GOOD EVENING.
10:01:39 I'M MICHAEL HORNER, 14502 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, TAMPA
10:01:43 33618 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
10:01:46 I'LL KEEP MY PRESENTATION UNDER 30 MINUTES TONIGHT.
10:01:50 I KNOW IT'S GOING LONG.
10:01:51 JUST KIDDING.
10:01:53 IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
10:01:54 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
10:01:56 I HAVE AN EXTENDED PRESENTATION, GRAPHICS.
10:01:59 I THINK I AM JUST GOING TO CUT TO THE SUMMARY.
10:02:01 WE HAVE GOT FULL RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL FROM STAFF,
10:02:05 REVIEW AGENCIES, JENNIFER DID A FINE PRESENTATION AS DID
10:02:09 RYAN ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE
10:02:13 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE UNIFIED REZ 10,
10:02:17 CMU, WHICH IS RATHER UNIQUE ON THIS PROPERTY.
10:02:20 I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE HOLLIS, ENGINEERING, IF WE COULD
10:02:28 SHARE THE SCREEN AND WORK THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS
10:02:30 POSSIBLE.
10:02:37 SO WE ARE PROPOSING A PD, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR 25
10:02:40 TOWNHOMES, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AS RYAN MENTIONED.
10:02:45 THIS IS NOT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
10:02:48 THESE ARE NOT APARTMENTS.
10:02:49 THESE ARE NOT STACKED UNITS.
10:02:50 THESE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY FEE SIMPLE ATTACHED UNITS.
10:02:55 YOU KNOW THIS VERY WELL.
10:02:56 WE JUST WENT THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ON THE WEST
10:02:59 SHORE CORRIDOR.
10:03:02 SO NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL THE LAND USES.
10:03:06 SPACE TO THE SAY THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY
10:03:08 MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL ZONING, MUCH HIGHER INTENSITY
10:03:12 AND DENSITY THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
10:03:20 WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING CI TO THE SOUTH.
10:03:22 WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
10:03:25 AND AS JENNIFER NOTED WE DO HAVE AN HISTORICALLY OLDER
10:03:28 SUBDIVISION, RS-75 TO THE EAST.
10:03:31 WE DO HAVE A UNIQUE PARCEL THAT HAS A SHARED SPLIT ZONE.
10:03:38 WE HAVE RS-75 AND WE HAVE CI.
10:03:41 WE ALSO HAVE A SPLIT COMP PLAN CATEGORY WHICH JENNIFER
10:03:45 REFERENCED.
10:03:46 CMU-35 ON THE WESTERN POINT AND REZ 10 ON THE EAST.
10:03:51 OVERALL 25 UNITS 1.24 ACRES AND A DENSITY OF 20 UNITS PER
10:03:57 ACRE.
10:03:58 I WOULD NOTE THAT THE UMU 60 LIES ENTIRELY ON THE WESTERN
10:04:02 SIDE, AREA FENCE, LOTS OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS,
10:04:06 COMMERCIAL, AND WE GO THROUGH THOSE TRANSITIONS, GANDY
10:04:09 BOULEVARD CORRIDOR JUST TWO BLOCKS TO OUR NORTH.
10:04:13 WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGN
10:04:16 GUIDELINES, AND THEN WE HAVE UNITS BEING ORIENTED WITH
10:04:21 ACCESS, CONNECTIVITY.
10:04:26 CAN YOU SHARE THE SCREEN?
10:04:28 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: ARE YOU SEEING THE SCREEN NOW?
10:04:36 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:04:38 I WAS GONE.
10:04:40 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
10:04:41 BRING IT UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST.
10:04:45 AGAIN COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH.
10:04:46 COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH.
10:04:47 IF WE CAN JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
10:04:52 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: SURE.
10:04:56 THE NEXT ONE, HERE YOU GO.
10:05:00 >>MICHAEL HORNER: SO WE HAVE THE SMALL PURPLE SQUARE,
10:05:09 YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL,
10:05:11 EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH IS COMMERCIAL, SOUTH COMMERCIAL,
10:05:14 WEST MULTIFAMILY, COMMERCIAL.
10:05:16 NO SURPRISE GIVEN THE INTENSITY OF WEST SHORE BOULEVARD
10:05:19 WHICH IS AN AERIAL.
10:05:21 NEXT SLIDE.
10:05:28 WE HAVE WORKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN
10:05:30 ORIENT THESE UNITS TO THE ROYALTY.
10:05:34 NEXT SLIDE.
10:05:35 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: TOO MANY ON HERE.
10:05:41 I'M SORRY.
10:05:41 >>MICHAEL HORNER: LET'S JUST TRY THE SITE PLAN.
10:05:46 LET'S DO THE COLOR.
10:05:47 I THINK THAT WILL BE THE BEST DESCRIPTION.
10:05:48 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: OKAY.
10:05:50 THANK YOU.
10:05:51 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE
10:05:52 PROPOSING.
10:05:53 YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RELATES TO THE EAST RESIDENTIAL.
10:05:56 WE HAVE A BUILDING SETBACK OF 40 FEET ON THAT EASTERN
10:05:58 SIDE.
10:05:59 THAT IS PARKING, TWO STONE WATERS SURFACE PONDS,
10:06:04 NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS.
10:06:05 WE DID HAVE A POOL AND A DECK ON THE GREEN SHADED SQUARE.
10:06:11 YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS AND YOU WILL SEE THOSE CURRENTLY
10:06:14 AND THAT'S WHAT RYAN MANASSE AND STAFF DO.
10:06:17 HOWEVER, A RECENT SWFWMD REVIEW CAME BACK AND SAID WE HAD
10:06:21 A LITTLE TOO MUCH IMPERVIOUS AND WE NEEDED TO INCREASE
10:06:24 STORAGE AND DECREASE IMPERVIOUS.
10:06:27 SO THAT POOL AND DECK AREA IS NOW GREEN SPACE.
10:06:32 A AND THIS GREEN SPACE WILL BE ABOVE A VAULT AND THIS
10:06:36 GREEN SPACE WILL BE SIMPLY PASSIVE SO PEOPLE CAN GATHER
10:06:39 THE KIDS AND THIS WILL BE THE PUBLIC GATHERING PLACE.
10:06:44 NO MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN THAT AREA.
10:06:46 WE HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS, WE HAVE NO DIRECT ACCESS TO WEST
10:06:53 SHORE BOULEVARD.
10:06:54 YOU CAN SEE THE ACCESS CONNECTIVITY ON THAT PLAN, COUNCIL
10:06:57 MEMBERS.
10:06:58 WE HAVE MAINTAINED SIDEWALKS, PROPOSALS ON THE NORTH,
10:07:01 SOUTH AND WEST, AND THEN WE HAVE THE INTERIOR
10:07:06 CONNECTIVITIES, THE ACCESS WALKWAYS THAT JENNIFER
10:07:08 MENTIONED.
10:07:09 THAT IS ONE OF THE WAIVERS FOR THE THREE UNITS INTERNAL.
10:07:15 THE WAIVERS THAT RYAN MENTIONED WE BELIEVE, BY SECOND
10:07:21 READING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO
10:07:24 WAIVE OR REMOVE THE WAIVER OF THE OPEN SPACE,
10:07:28 CALCULATIONS HAVE INCREASED FROM 6% UP TO 20%.
10:07:32 ALSO, THERE WERE THREE TREES THAT WE HAD TO REMOVE
10:07:36 BEFORE.
10:07:37 THE GOOD NEWS IS WE THINK THOSE THREE TREES CAN COME
10:07:40 BACK, AND THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR ALL OF US.
10:07:43 WE HAVE WORKED CLOSE WITH STAFF, THE AGENCIES ON SWFWMD.
10:07:48 WE HAVE HAD ONE PROPERTY OWNER CONTACT ME.
10:07:52 I THINK I COPIED YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ACTUALLY VERY
10:07:57 NICE LADY TALKED TO FOR ALMOST A HALF AN HOUR,.
10:08:05 THIS IS SOLELY RESIDENTIAL.
10:08:07 IT IS CI.
10:08:08 IT COULD BE DEVELOPED INTO AN INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL
10:08:10 DEVELOPMENT, FACILITY, LOADING DOCKS, TRUCKS IN THE BACK,
10:08:17 DUMPSTERS.
10:08:18 THIS IS SOLELY RESIDENTIAL IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE
10:08:22 PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:08:23 IT IS LOW DENSITY.
10:08:24 AGAIN BEING CMU, AS MS. BATSEL REFERENCED.
10:08:28 WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY UNDER A DIFFERENT
10:08:31 MULTIFAMILY UNIT PRODUCT TO GET F.A.R. CREDIT, TO GET
10:08:35 MUCH HIGHER NUMBER OF UNITS, AND SINGLE-FAMILY OR
10:08:40 OCCUPIED UNITS AT 20IENTS UNITS PER ACRE.
10:08:43 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
10:08:46 JUST 630 SECONDS ON STORMWATER.
10:08:49 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
10:08:52 GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY
10:08:54 COUNCIL.
10:08:54 BRAULIO GRAJALES, 63 WEST CYPRESS AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN
10:09:02 IN.
10:09:02 I AM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND
10:09:04 ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT.
10:09:06 ONE OF THE IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT IS OF
10:09:10 COURSE STORM WATERS DRAINAGE.
10:09:12 I HAVE MET WITH SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT
10:09:14 DISTRICT TO DISCUSS ALL THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR
10:09:17 THIS PROJECT.
10:09:19 I HAVE ALSO CONTACTED THE CITY OF TAMPA STORMWATER
10:09:22 ENGINEERING DIVISION TO OBTAIN THE DRAINAGE MODEL AND THE
10:09:27 SPECIFIC INFORMATION FOR THE DRAINAGE BASING AREA WHERE
10:09:30 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
10:09:32 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE A DRAINAGE WHICH
10:09:38 WILL NOT AFFECT THE PROPERTY AND THE STREETS AROUND THE
10:09:41 PROPERTY.
10:09:41 THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT WILL CONSTRUCT AN
10:09:44 UNDERGROUND STORMWATER RETENTION SYSTEM AND TWO SURFACE
10:09:48 PONDS THAT WILL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT WATER QUALITY
10:09:50 TREATMENT AND VOLUME TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED
10:09:55 BY THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND
10:09:57 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:10:00 ALSO, THE PROJECT WILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED
10:10:02 BY SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BEFORE IT
10:10:06 CAN GO TO CONSTRUCTION.
10:10:08 I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION ROADWAY
10:10:15 IMPROVEMENTS ON WEST SHORE BOULEVARD, TAMPA EXPRESSWAY
10:10:19 AUTHORITY IS CURRENTLY BUILDING THE SELMON EXTENSION
10:10:28 PROJECT, IMPROVING WEST SHORE BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF GANDY
10:10:30 BOULEVARD FROM PRAISE AVENUE TO GANDY BOULEVARD.
10:10:34 THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE WIDENING OF THE PAVEMENT TO
10:10:36 EXPAND WEST SHORE BOULEVARD FROM 3 TO 4 LANES.
10:10:40 IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SHARE A QUICK SCREEN, IF
10:10:47 THAT IS NOT TOO MUCH TROUBLE.
10:10:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:10:48 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE WIDENING
10:10:54 OF THE AGREEMENT TO EXPAND FROM 3 TO 4 LANES AS I JUST
10:10:57 SAID, AND THE SHARED SCREEN IS A COPY OF THE CONSTRUCTION
10:11:00 PLAN PROVIDED BY THE TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
10:11:02 EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY WHICH SHOWS HOW THE PROPOSED
10:11:04 WIDENING OF WEST SHORE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.
10:11:08 THE GRAY COLOR, THE GRAY HATCH THAT YOU SEE THERE, SOLID
10:11:12 HATCH GRAY, IS PAVEMENT THAT WILL BE IMPROVED BY OVERLANE
10:11:19 METHOD, HATCH WITH CROSSING LINES IS THE PROPOSED
10:11:22 PAVEMENT WIDENING TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC LANE.
10:11:26 THIS PROJECT IS WIDENING WILL IMPROVE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS
10:11:29 IN THE AREA.
10:11:30 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MICHAEL, AND I WILL SWITCH BACK
10:11:32 TO YOU UNLESS MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE SOME
10:11:34 QUESTIONS FIRST.
10:11:35 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THAT CON COMPLETES -- CONCLUDES OUR
10:11:41 PRESENTATION.
10:11:42 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:11:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FROM
10:11:45 COUNCIL, I WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
10:11:49 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC IN PERSON ON THE SECOND
10:11:53 FLOOR?
10:11:58 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
10:12:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THEY WOULD COME TO THE LECTERN
10:12:06 AND WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN.
10:12:10 OH, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN.
10:12:11 OKAY, YOU ARE FINE.
10:12:12 ALL RIGHT.
10:12:16 YOU ARE OKAY.
10:12:16 YOU WERE SWORN ALREADY.
10:12:18 YOU ARE GOOD.
10:12:20 GO AHEAD.
10:12:20 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES APIECE.
10:12:25 AND MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON LINE REGISTERED?
10:12:34 LET US CHECK REAL QUICK.
10:12:36 WE HAVE GENE STROHMEYER AND ONE MORE PERSON.
10:12:42 WE'LL START WITH YOU, SIR.
10:12:44 AND THEN --
10:12:47 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] I HAVE TWO PARTICULAR ISSUES.
10:13:01 ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT --
10:13:06 THAT INCREASES THE DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
10:13:09 RESIDENTIAL TO FOUR TIMES FOR THIS PARTICULAR APARTMENT.
10:13:19 [OFF MICROPHONE] IF YOU LOOK AT ALL 2016, THE AREA WAS
10:13:27 53% SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
10:13:30 WITH ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA
10:13:33 OF SOUTH OF GANDY BY THE TIME THAT STUFF IS DONE, WE ARE
10:13:38 GOING TO DRIVE TO 34% SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS, AND THAT'S
10:13:43 DISTRESSING WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN WEST SHORE AND LOOK AT
10:13:46 WALLS OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER OR
10:13:51 BOTH SIDE.
10:13:53 THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE FLOODED,
10:14:00 AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN ENGINEERS HAVING
10:14:06 SEEN WHAT THEY DID IN PORT TAMPA WITH ONE OF THE
10:14:10 DEVELOPMENTS DOWN THERE WHERE WE WENT THROUGH LAST
10:14:12 SUMMER, AND IT RAINED, AND PEOPLE COULD GET IN AND OUT OF
10:14:16 THE DRIVEWAYS, IN AREAS THAT WERE AROUND THE PORT TAMPA
10:14:22 AREA BECAUSE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON DOWN
10:14:25 THERE.
10:14:25 SO ULTIMATELY THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
10:14:29 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:14:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:33 THEY ARE GOING SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND THEN NEXT PERSON.
10:14:42 (TELEPHONE RINGS).
10:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOUR PHONE IS RINGING, PLEASE
10:14:57 MUTE YOURSELF.
10:15:00 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
10:15:02 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR?
10:15:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
10:15:08 YOU ARE COMING IN SLOWLY.
10:15:17 COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN YOU HEAR US?
10:15:30 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:15:31 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT
10:15:38 OF SOUTH TAMPA WHERE OUR MOTTO IS IF IT'S SOUTH OF
10:15:41 KENNEDY WE DON'T NEED IT.
10:15:42 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A LITTLE PERSONAL COMMENT ABOUT WHAT
10:15:45 YOU ALL ARE DISCUSSING EARLIER.
10:15:48 I THINK YOU ALL ARE REALLY UNDERPAID.
10:15:51 YOU SHOULD GET TWICE WHAT YOU ARE MAKING AS A FULL-TIME
10:15:55 JOB.
10:15:55 EVEN TWICE OF WHAT YOU ARE MAKING.
10:15:59 I WOULD RATHER STICK POKERS IN MY EYES THAN WHAT YOU DO.
10:16:02 I THINK THIS COUNCIL REALLY TRULY CARES ABOUT ITS
10:16:05 CITIZENS.
10:16:06 I THINK YOU TRY VERY HARD TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO
10:16:10 WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE
10:16:13 MATTER, AND I AGREE WITH MR. CITRO, YOU NEED MORE
10:16:16 MEETINGS, AND IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB.
10:16:19 IT SHOULD BE TREATED THAT WAY.
10:16:21 ANYHOW, I WANT TO ADDRESS BASICALLY WHAT I SAID BEFORE.
10:16:25 IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCREEN HERE, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE,
10:16:28 THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LOWEST
10:16:33 INTENSITY OF GROWTH, AND AT THIS TIME HIGHEST INTENSITY
10:16:35 OF GROWTH, AND THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU IS IN THAT SAME
10:16:38 AREA, AND THIS IS JUST A BIG CONCERN, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT
10:16:43 WHERE THE CITY WANTS THE GROWTH TO BE.
10:16:45 AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, SOUTH TAMPA IS FIRST.
10:16:50 THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST GROWTH RATE IN THE CITY.
10:16:52 THESE TWO ARE STATISTIC ANOMALIES BECAUSE THEIR NUMBERS
10:16:59 ARE SO LOW.
10:16:59 IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO TOLD ME THIS AND I GOT
10:17:03 THESE NUMBERS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PROPERTY
10:17:05 APPRAISER, AND THE CITY AGAIN, LIKE I SHOWED YOU HERE, IT
10:17:09 WAS 53% SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN 2016 AFTER ALL THESE
10:17:15 PROJECTS ARE DEVELOPED, IT'S GOING TO BE 34%.
10:17:18 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
10:17:19 THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THAT AREA IS RIDICULOUS.
10:17:23 I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALIZES THAT THERE HAS BEEN MORE
10:17:27 THAN A DOUBLING OF MULTIFAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA.
10:17:32 114% INCREASE.
10:17:34 AND I HONESTLY DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALIZES IT.
10:17:37 AND WE HAVE GOT THESE FIGURES FROM THE PROPERTY
10:17:39 APPRAISER'S OFFICE.
10:17:40 WE ARE HAPPY TO SHARE E-MAILS WITH YOU.
10:17:42 AND AGAIN, IN THE COMP PLAN, IT SAYS HOW TAMPA SHOULD
10:17:48 HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN ESTABLISHED AREA AND PART
10:17:51 OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT'S UNSTABLE AND FLOOD PRONE,
10:17:55 THERE ARE LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE OPEN SPACES AND
10:17:58 SERVICES TO INCREASE DEMANDS OR COMMUNITY FACILITIES,
10:18:02 THERE'S LIMITED ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION, FACILITIES
10:18:04 WHICH WOULD BE RESOURCE INEFFICIENT TO IMPROVE AND BE
10:18:10 COMPROMISED BY INCREASED URBANIZATION.
10:18:12 SO THIS IS THE CITY'S OWN PLAN, THE CITY'S OWN
10:18:16 UNDERSTANDING OF THE AREA, AND OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING HAS
10:18:20 GONE WRONG, AND IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL.
10:18:23 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU FINISH SOON.
10:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:18:51 >> GOOD EVENING.
10:18:53 YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS ONE.
10:18:56 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I SAY THAT.
10:18:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
10:19:00 RECORD.
10:19:01 >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, SOUTH OF GANDY YES, SIR RESIDENT.
10:19:05 HERE IS MY THING.
10:19:05 THERE'S ONE ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS SOUTH OF THIS ONE THAT
10:19:08 LOOKS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE IT.
10:19:10 IT LOOKS LIKE THE EXACT SAME LAYOUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:19:14 IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, AND IT'S GOING
10:19:16 TO BE SINGLE-FAMILY, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
10:19:19 LIVE THERE AND BREATHE, BUT MY ISSUE, I GO BACK TO I'M
10:19:23 TORN, BECAUSE I GO BACK TO STEVE'S ISSUES, THAT HELLO,
10:19:29 WHEN WE BUILT ALL THIS UP TO PUT 25 UNITS IN THERE, HOW
10:19:34 MUCH FLOODING IS IT GOING TO IMPACT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE
10:19:36 AROUND THEM?
10:19:37 THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.
10:19:39 WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT DOWN ON PRESCOTT AND WEST SHORE
10:19:44 RIGHT NOW.
10:19:44 WE HAVE PEOPLE WADING THROUGH WAIST DEEP WATER AT ETTA,
10:19:50 AND ETTA WAS NOT A BAD STORM IN SEPTEMBER.
10:19:53 SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
10:19:55 IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND PEOPLE LIVED THERE FOR 16,
10:19:58 17 YEARS.
10:19:59 SO MY BIG CONCERN IS THE FLOODING ISSUE AND HOW IS THIS
10:20:03 GOING TO IMPACT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE DIRECTLY
10:20:07 WITHIN THE 250 FEET, WITHIN 500 FEET, AND THOSE ROADS ON
10:20:12 EITHER SIDE OF THIS GENTLEMAN'S HOUSE ARE THE INDY 500.
10:20:18 WHEN I WAS PASSING OUT FLYERS IT WAS VERY SCARY TO WAKE
10:20:22 DOWN THE STREET AND PUT FLYERS OUT.
10:20:24 THANK YOU.
10:20:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:27 I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL FOR THE LIVE INDIVIDUAL.
10:20:30 WE HAVE ONE CALL-IN, VIRTUAL, JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:20:37 >> CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?
10:20:48 >> YES, WE CAN.
10:20:49 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:20:49 >> MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:20:54 RESIDENT OF SOUTH OF GANDY.
10:20:58 I JUST REALLY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS WHAT WAS GOING ON
10:21:02 IN THIS PROPERTY.
10:21:05 I TAKE FROM THIS WE HAVE ONE HOUSE TURNING INTO 21 HOMES.
10:21:12 SO WE DO THE MATH.
10:21:15 IT'S A LOT.
10:21:16 IT'S A LOT MORE THAN IT WAS, AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
10:21:19 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
10:21:22 I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY OTHER THAN, ONE GOING TO
10:21:27 21.
10:21:28 SO I WILL TRY TO GET MY WAY UP WEST SHORE WHEN I CAN.
10:21:36 THANKS EVERYBODY.
10:21:36 HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
10:21:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:42 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:21:49 ALL RIGHT.
10:21:51 REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT?
10:21:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
10:21:55 I WAS JUST WONDERING WHETHER IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR
10:21:58 STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE
10:22:02 THE ISSUE OF FLOODING RELATIVE TO SPECIFICALLY ZONING.
10:22:06 THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSES OF
10:22:09 THE RECORD, AND MAYBE PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT MR. HORNER
10:22:13 WILL ADDRESS.
10:22:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:22:14 MR. MANASSE.
10:22:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: SO THIS DID GET REVIEWED BY THE
10:22:18 STORMWATER DEPARTMENT AS PART OF REZONING, SHOWING THE
10:22:21 METHOD OF STORMWATER RETENTION.
10:22:23 THAT'S AS FAR AS IT GOES.
10:22:24 I'M NOT A STORMWATER ENGINEER BUT OUR DEPARTMENT DID
10:22:27 REVIEW THAT, AND THEY FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
10:22:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:22:33 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:22:38 ALL RIGHT.
10:22:38 HEARING NONE, MR. HORNER, IF YOU HAVE REBUTTAL.
10:22:41 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.
10:22:44 I WILL BE BRIEF.
10:22:46 I WILL ADDRESS THE INITIAL COMMENTS, AND I WILL DEFER TO
10:22:49 THE ENGINEER UPON MY CONCLUSION.
10:22:53 I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT THESE ARE NOT MULTIFAMILY
10:22:56 APARTMENTS.
10:22:56 THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION WAS ALL ABOUT MULTIFAMILY AND
10:23:05 STACKED UNITS.
10:23:05 THESE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
10:23:08 THEY WILL BE SOLD FEE SIMPLE, IN ALL PROBABILITY.
10:23:13 RANGES 400 THAT YOU.
10:23:14 WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS, SO WE HAVE WALKING PEDESTRIAN
10:23:19 CONNECTIONS, WE HAVE MAINTAINED A BUFFER TO THE EAST.
10:23:22 QUITE HONESTLY, COUNCIL, WE COULD HAVE FILED FOR A PLAN
10:23:25 AMENDMENT AND BROUGHT IN THE BALANCE OF THAT REZ 10, CMU
10:23:29 CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTHERN TRACK, THEN ALL THE CMUs
10:23:34 HILLSBOROUGH AT LEAST 30 TO 50 APARTMENTS ON THE SITE.
10:23:38 MY CLIENTS DON'T DON THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
10:23:40 THEY DO ONLY SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
10:23:41 THIS MAKES SENSE.
10:23:42 THIS WORKS.
10:23:44 WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH SWFWMD AND STAFF AND THE
10:23:48 PLANNING COMMISSION TO ENSURE, THEIR DESIGN INTENTIONS.
10:23:53 I'M PROUD OF IT.
10:23:54 THE ELEVATIONS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
10:23:56 I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:23:58 I SINCERELY DO.
10:23:59 AND I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY WEST SHORE HAS A LOT OF
10:24:02 TRAFFIC ON IT
10:24:05 WE KNOW THINGS WILL IMPROVE.
10:24:07 BUT THIS HAS ALREADY GONE COMMERCIAL.
10:24:10 IT IS ALL RIGHT BUILT A LOT MORE INTENSIVE, AND WE ARE
10:24:14 FAR BELOW THE MAX DENSITY.
10:24:18 30 SECOND ON DRAINAGE.
10:24:22 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
10:24:26 IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN ONE MORE TIME
10:24:30 TO SHOW A REAL QUICK PICTURE, VERY QUICK PICTURE HERE.
10:24:39 YOU DON'T SEE IT.
10:24:40 NOT YET.
10:24:41 THIS IS A SITE PLAN, AND PLEASE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO
10:24:45 THE POOL BECAUSE THE POOL HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOVED.
10:24:48 MICHAEL SAID IT EARLIER.
10:24:50 BUT THIS IS THE EXTENT OF UNDERGROUND STORAGE THAT IS
10:24:56 GOING TO PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY, ALL THE YELLOW SQUARES
10:25:01 ARE UNDERGROUND, UNDERGROUND STORAGE, THAT WILL PROVIDE
10:25:07 ENOUGH VOLUME FOR THE PROPERTY TO HAVE LIKE I MENTIONED A
10:25:15 SUFFICIENT VOLUME TO MANAGE THE STORMWATER ON THIS
10:25:19 PROPERTY.
10:25:19 THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
10:25:20 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THANK YOU.
10:25:23 COUNCIL, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE GONE THROUGH SUCH INTENSIVE
10:25:26 DESIGN ENGINEERING ON THIS.
10:25:27 THIS IS NOT -- THIS PLAN HAS BEEN ENGINEERED, AND WE
10:25:32 ACTUALLY HAD TO GO BACK AND REDESIGN AND PULL OUT SOME
10:25:35 BETTER US HAVE SURFACE.
10:25:37 THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MOST
10:25:40 OVERENGINEERED PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE.
10:25:43 WE CAN A SURE THE NEIGHBORS NO WE WILL BE ACCOMMODATING
10:25:47 ALL OF THAT STORMWATER PLUS WATER QUALITY NEEDS, AND
10:25:51 AGAIN WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
10:25:52 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
10:25:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
10:25:56 COUNCIL?
10:25:59 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:26:02 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:26:03 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:26:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:08 I FORGOT WHERE I LEFT OFF.
10:26:12 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THIS ONE?
10:26:15 I KNOW CARLSON WAS LAST.
10:26:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE THE AGENDA IN FRONT OF
10:26:23 YOU TO READ THIS ITEM?
10:26:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE TROUBLE HEARING YOU.
10:26:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
10:26:32 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:26:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:26:34 CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME NOW?
10:26:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER 6?
10:26:40 >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN DO THAT, YES, SIR.
10:26:47 I READ AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:26:50 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:26:53 GENERAL VICINITY OF 5100 SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD IN
10:26:57 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:26:59 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT REZ 75
10:27:05 RESIDENTIAL LAND USE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE PD PLANNED
10:27:09 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN
10:27:12 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHILE YOU ARE DOING THAT, IS YOUR
10:27:20 CAMERA ON?
10:27:22 THIS IS MARTIN SHELBY.
10:27:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT IS.
10:27:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:27:26 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
10:27:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:27:29 WE HEARD YOU.
10:27:30 I JUST COULDN'T SEE.
10:27:31 UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE COULD, I COULD NOT.
10:27:33 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:27:36 APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF FOR THE
10:27:42 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE.
10:27:45 I ALSO ADOPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY STAFF REPORTS.
10:27:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A REVISION SHEET ASSOCIATED,
10:27:53 MR. MANASSE?
10:27:56 >>LUIS VIERA: INCLUDING THAT.
10:27:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I SEE YOUR
10:28:00 HAND.
10:28:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THERE HASN'T BEEN A SECOND YET, I
10:28:04 WILL SECOND THE MOTION.
10:28:05 AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN VERY QUICKLY, I AM VERY
10:28:11 FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, HAVING PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED
10:28:16 DISTRICT 4.
10:28:18 I WANT TO GET REALISTIC.
10:28:20 THAT PROPERTY IS RATE ON WEST SHORE.
10:28:24 I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC TO EXPECT THAT IT'S EVER
10:28:27 GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED SO THE
10:28:32 NEXT BEST THING IS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AND THAT'S
10:28:35 WHAT BE THIS PROPOSAL IS.
10:28:37 I THINK IT'S FAIRLY REASONABLE, AND I'M NOT PARTICULARLY
10:28:42 CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORMWATER BECAUSE I DO HAVE FAITH IN
10:28:46 THE FOLKS WHO ARE REVIEWING THE STORMWATER AT THE
10:28:52 DEVELOPMENT PHASE AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ABIDE
10:28:56 BY THE STORMWATER CODE AND THE STANDARD.
10:28:58 SO WITH THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.
10:29:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:29:03 VIERA.
10:29:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:29:06 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:29:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:29:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:29:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
10:29:13 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:29:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:29:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:29:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:29:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT
10:29:24 VOTE.
10:29:24 CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:29:25 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th
10:29:28 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:29:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT ITEM HAS A LOT OF PUBLIC
10:29:34 COMMENT.
10:29:34 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK THEN?
10:29:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:29:39 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 5-MINUTE RECESS BECAUSE THE NEXT
10:29:41 ONE HAS QUITE A FEW REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
10:29:45 FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
10:29:46
10:29:47 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).
10:37:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL PLEASE.
10:37:50 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
10:38:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN YOU HEAR US?
10:38:10 WE ARE DOING ROLL CALL.
10:38:11 >>JIM CREW: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE BROADCAST IS RUNNING.
10:38:28 SAY ROLL CALL.
10:38:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL?
10:38:31 EVERYTHING IS DELAYED.
10:38:31 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA?
10:38:36 >> CAN HE HEAR US?
10:38:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK SO.
10:38:44 >> WE CAN'T HEAR --
10:38:54 >>> I CAN HEAR YOU, VIERA.
10:38:55 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:39:04 YOU CAN SAY TAKE ROLL.
10:39:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DID.
10:39:07 THE CLERK IS CALLING YOUR NAME.
10:39:08 VIERA.
10:39:09 [ LAUGHTER ]
10:39:10 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
10:39:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M HERE.
10:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:39:14 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:39:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
10:39:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
10:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:39:24 ALL RIGHT, MR. MANASSE, TAKE IT AWAY.
10:39:26 ITEM NUMBER 8.
10:39:27 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 8 IS FAIL REZ 20-103 FOR
10:39:34 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE.
10:39:37 THE REQUEST IS FOR OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL
10:39:42 OFFICE, HOTEL, MEDICAL HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL.
10:39:50 PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
10:39:52 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
10:39:53 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
10:39:58 THANK YOU.
10:39:59 AS RYAN STATED, THIS IS 20-103, IT IS SOUTH TAMPA
10:40:06 PLANNING DISTRICT, WESTSHORE EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
10:40:12 IT IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE, OUTLINED ON
10:40:17 THE SCREEN IN THE PURPLE.
10:40:20 THERE'S A VARIETY OF USES WITHIN THE AREA, TO THE NORTH
10:40:23 IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE WESTSHORE MALL.
10:40:29 BUT I POINTED OUT ON THE YELLOW STARS, THOSE ARE SOME OF
10:40:32 THE HAIR RAISE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THE RED STARS ABOUT 7
10:40:37 OR 8 STORY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE SURROUNDING
10:40:40 AREA.
10:40:40 THIS DEVELOPMENT PATTERN DOES TRANSITION TO SINGLE-FAMILY
10:40:43 DETACHED EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
10:40:46 AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE -- I
10:40:52 APOLOGIZE -- TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THAT
10:40:55 OFFICE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WE SEE IN WESTSHORE.
10:41:01 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS REGIONAL MIXED USE 100,
10:41:05 THE DARK PURPOSE COLOR, THEN TRANSITIONS TO RESIDENTIAL 6
10:41:09 WHICH IS THE YELLOW.
10:41:10 NOW, THIS IS A LITTLE INTERESTING BECAUSE MIXED USE 100
10:41:16 IS THE HIGHEST RESIDENTIAL SECTION, RESIDENTIAL 6 IS ONE
10:41:19 OF OUR LOWEST RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
10:41:22 SO THERE IS THAT PATTERN ALREADY PRESENT ON THE FUTURE
10:41:26 LAND USE MAP ON THE SITE.
10:41:30 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES ENCOURAGE A MIX OF USES, TO
10:41:34 SUPPORT WALKING AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND IT SEEKS
10:41:37 TO PROVIDE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN CONSISTENT
10:41:39 WITH THE COMPACT CITY FORM STRATEGY WHICH PROVIDES
10:41:43 HOUSING AND HAIR DENSITIES IN PROXIMITY FOR EMPLOYMENT
10:41:47 AND TRANSIT, WHICH IS WHERE THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER,
10:41:51 THERE'S MULTIPLE TRANSIT CONNECTIONS IN THIS AREA
10:41:56 SUPPORTING THIS ZONING.
10:41:58 I ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING
10:42:00 APPROXIMATELY 46% OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL
10:42:05 CONSIDERED FOR THIS SITE.
10:42:07 THE F.A.R. AND THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 DESIGNATION IS
10:42:11 UP TO A 3.25, AND THE APPLICANT WITH THEIR PROPOSAL OF
10:42:16 APPROXIMATELY 440,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT THAT
10:42:22 COMES OUT TO APPROXIMATELY 46% OF THAT TOTAL THAT CAN BE
10:42:25 REQUESTED.
10:42:26 I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 PATTERN
10:42:31 CONTINUES, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, APPROXIMATELY 7 TO
10:42:36 8 STORIES, AND THE HIGHER DENSITY OFFICE BUILDING, AND
10:42:40 TRANSITIONS TO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AS NOTED BY THE
10:42:44 RESIDENTIAL 6 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
10:42:47 SO WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT.
10:42:49 WE FOUND THAT IT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
10:42:52 PATTERN, AND THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
10:42:56 ENCOURAGED THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ESPECIALLY
10:43:00 POLICIES.
10:43:01 THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA,
10:43:04 THOUGH, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT NOTE TO TAKE INTO
10:43:08 CONSIDERATION, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT, AND THAT CONCLUDES
10:43:11 MY PRESENTATION.
10:43:12 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:43:13 THANK YOU.
10:43:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:15 ANY QUESTIONS?
10:43:17 MR. MANASSE.
10:43:18 >>RYAN MANASSE: LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.
10:43:25 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:43:25 ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ 20-103, AGAIN THE REZONING IS
10:43:30 REQUESTING FROM PD WHICH IS APPROVED FOR OFFICE BUSINESS
10:43:33 PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY,
10:43:37 AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL
10:43:40 MEDICAL OFFICE.
10:43:41 HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
10:43:46 YOU WILL SEA PROPOSED WAIVERS THAT WERE FOUR PREVIOUSLY
10:43:49 APPROVED WAIVERS IN FILE REZ 18-84, AND THEN YOU WILL SEE
10:43:54 BOTTOM SECTION HERE WHERE YOU SEE WAIVERS BEING
10:43:57 REQUESTED.
10:43:57 ALTHOUGH THEY ARE BEING REQUESTED, STAFF DID NOT HAVE AN
10:44:01 ISSUE WITH THESE WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.
10:44:04 AGAIN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY
10:44:06 AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE FROM PD TO PD FOR OFFICE,
10:44:15 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL, HOTEL, MULTIFAMILY AND
10:44:19 RESIDENTIAL.
10:44:20 IT WAS FILED IN 2018, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW TWO 7 STORY
10:44:25 OFFICE TOWERS AT 115 FEET BUILDING HEIGHT AND A 7-STORY
10:44:29 PARKING GARAGE AT 106 BUILDING HEIGHT.
10:44:31 THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF I-275, WEST OF
10:44:37 SOUTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARINER
10:44:40 STREET AND BAY CENTER DRIVE.
10:44:42 THE SUBJECT PARCEL CONTAINS 6.26 ACRES AND THE APPLICANT
10:44:46 PROPOSES TWO OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, BOTH
10:44:49 OPTIONS INCLUDE RETAINING THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING
10:44:51 AND PARKING GARAGE APPROVED IN THAT REZ 1884, AND I TRIED
10:44:55 TO DO A LITTLE TABLE SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE TWO OPTIONS.
10:44:59 YOU CAN SEE THE 1884 AND THE EXISTING APPROVALS, AND THEN
10:45:03 THE TWO OPTIONS FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING 7 STORY PARKING
10:45:06 GARAGE, 11 STORIES, AND THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING NINE
10:45:10 STORY PARKING GARAGE AND THEN THE BUILDING HEIGHTS OVER
10:45:12 HERE.
10:45:17 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY
10:45:19 DISTRICT.
10:45:20 HOWEVER, GIVEN THE 50 PERCENT CONSTRUCTION AND
10:45:25 APPLICATION OF THE STANDARDS APPLIES TO ONLY A PORTION OF
10:45:27 THE PROPERTY, AND WOULD RESULT IN SOMEWHAT DISJOINTED
10:45:31 DEVELOPMENT.
10:45:31 A WAIVER IS BEING REQUESTED FROM THE OVERLAY STANDARD TO
10:45:34 ALLOW THAT GENERAL CODE TO APPLY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AS
10:45:37 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
10:45:38 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONFIGURED WITH TWO TOWERS ON
10:45:40 THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
10:45:42 THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND PROPOSED OFFICE OR
10:45:44 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING AND THE GARAGE STRUCTURES ON THE
10:45:47 EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO INCLUDE THE EXISTING
10:45:51 AND PROPOSED GARAGE IN BOTH DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS,
10:45:54 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE STRUCTURE GARAGE IS LOCATED TO
10:45:56 THE -- I'M SORRY, LOOKING ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH LOADING
10:46:00 ON THE NORTH AND VEHICULAR ARRIVAL PLAZA WITH SURFACE
10:46:03 PARKING ON THE WEST.
10:46:04 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS FOR THE PROPERTY ARE IN
10:46:06 THE TABLE THAT I PROVIDED HERE BELOW.
10:46:09 AS YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING SET BANKS, WE CAN GO NORTH IS
10:46:12 25, SOUTH 10, EAST IS 5 AND THEN WEST IS 20.
10:46:17 THE GARAGE IS NORTH ON NORTH 25, SOUTH 20 FEET, EAST 25
10:46:22 FEET, AND THE WEST IS NOT APPLICABLE.
10:46:28 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP FOR OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED
10:46:31 IN RED.
10:46:32 AND THEN THERE ARE IN A LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC
10:46:35 LANDMARKS WITHIN THIS THOUSAND FEET.
10:46:37 AS YOU CAN SEE THE AIRPORT IS TO THE NORTH AND OBVIOUSLY
10:46:40 I-275 HERE AND JENNIFER EXPLAINED THIS, MORE OFFICE USES
10:46:45 HERE AND THEN ITSELF GETS TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND
10:46:47 THEN DIRECTLY INTO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED GOING WEST, AND
10:46:50 THEN MAINTAINING THAT OFFICE, THOSE OFFICE BUILDING
10:46:54 COMMERCIAL USES GOING EAST, AND THEN THERE'S SOME
10:46:56 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY HERE AS WELL AS OFFICE.
10:47:01 THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED ELECTRONICALLY,
10:47:08 DELIVERED TO YOU, COUNCIL, I PULLED A COUPLE OF PAGES THE
10:47:12 FOR THIS PowerPoint.
10:47:13 THIS IS OPTION 1.
10:47:14 AND ILLEGALITY THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN MORE OPTIONS IN
10:47:17 DETAIL.
10:47:18 I'M SURE DAVID MECHANIK HAS A GOOD PRESENTATION FOR THAT.
10:47:22 SO I PUT UP BOTH OPTIONS SO YOU CAN GENERALLY SEE WHAT
10:47:26 COINCIDES WITH MY SUMMARY AND THE STAFF REPORTED.
10:47:29 THEN THEY DID PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2
10:47:33 FOR ELEVATIONS AS WELL.
10:47:35 AND THAT'S WHAT'S LATER IN THE SLIDE AS WE GO DOWN.
10:47:40 AND THEN THE PHOTOS OF THE SITE ITSELF, THE SUBJECT SITE
10:47:43 VIEWING WEST, AND THEN THERE'S A VIEW SOUTHEAST.
10:47:48 THAT'S THE EXISTING PARKING GARAGE AND THE EXISTING
10:47:50 BUILDING.
10:47:51 AND THEN THIS IS THE BAY CENTER DRIVE.
10:47:53 IT WRAPS AROUND, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AERIAL THAT WRAPS
10:47:57 AROUND THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.
10:48:00 GETS BACK ONTO MARINER STREET.
10:48:03 SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF
10:48:05 THE VICINITY.
10:48:06 LOOKING OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THIS PICTURE WOULD
10:48:07 BE LOOKING WEST, LOOKING SOUTH BUT OVER HERE TO THE WEST,
10:48:11 AND THAT'S THE CANAL THAT LEADS WEST.
10:48:14 AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON BAY CENTER.
10:48:20 AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE -- I'M
10:48:24 SORRY, NORTHEAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOST
10:48:27 DEVELOPMENT.
10:48:28 I DO HAVE A REVISED REVISION SHEET THAT WAS SENT OUT.
10:48:31 I DID PUT IN A PowerPoint AS WELL.
10:48:34 I KNOW IT WAS VERY FAST BUT MAINLY IT WAS JUST BETWEEN
10:48:37 MYSELF AND THE ACT AND MR. COEN TO MAKE SURE WE CLEARLY
10:48:44 DEFINE THESE TWO OPTIONS IN THE SITE DATA TABLE AND THE
10:48:49 DATA TABLE WASN'T CHANGED FOR THE DRC MEETING.
10:48:54 OTHER THAN THAT THE OTHER REVISIONS ARE THE SAME AS THE
10:48:56 STAFF REPORT.
10:48:57 AGAIN, I JUST PROVIDED THAT HERE IN THE PowerPoint.
10:49:03 WITH THAT BEING SAID THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
10:49:06 COMPLIANCE STAFF FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF
10:49:08 TAMPA APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
10:49:10 REGULATIONS.
10:49:12 SHOULD IT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
10:49:14 WAIVERS, I HAVE IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT THERE ARE SOME
10:49:17 MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND
10:49:20 SECOND READING AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT
10:49:23 REVISION SHEET IN THE ORDINANCE.
10:49:24 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:49:26 >> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
10:49:30 ALL RIGHT, MR. MECHANIK.
10:49:32 AND MR. COEN, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HANDS SO WE CAN
10:49:39 SWEAR YOU IN.
10:49:41 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
10:49:41 >> I DO.
10:49:43 >> I DO.
10:49:44 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN
10:49:46 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
10:49:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:48 WE HAVE HOW MANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE?
10:49:50 >> WE HAVE SEVEN BUT ONLY FIVE ARE SIGNED IN.
10:49:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MECHANIK, GO AHEAD.
10:49:58 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL
10:50:00 MEMBERS.
10:50:01 I'M DAVID MECHANIK.
10:50:03 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
10:50:09 I HAVE WITH ME TIM GRAFF, AND I HAVE DAN WOODWARD OF
10:50:15 HIGHWOODS PROPERTIES.
10:50:17 ALSO WITH ME IS RANDY COEN OF COEN AND COMPANY.
10:50:24 RYAN DID A FAIRLY THOROUGH JOB IN HIS REPORT.
10:50:27 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TRAY AND SYNTHESIZE THIS BY
10:50:31 SAYING THAT WE ARE REALLY ONLY ASKING FOR TWO CHANGES TO
10:50:35 THE APPROVED SITE PLAN, AND THAT IS THE SECOND BUILDING
10:50:40 FOOTPRINT IS PROPOSED TO BE SLIGHTLY LARGER AND THE
10:50:48 BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE SLIGHTLY TALLER.
10:50:50 WE ARE ALSO REDUCING THE NUMBER OF PERMITTED UNITS IN THE
10:50:55 BUILDING.
10:50:58 AND RANDY WILL ADDRESS THOSE CHANGES IN MORE DETAIL.
10:51:05 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT WE CONCUR WITH THE STAFF
10:51:08 REPORT AND AGREE TO MAKE ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN
10:51:11 LISTED ON THE REVISED REVISION SHEET, AND I WOULD NOTE
10:51:16 THAT WE HAVE HAD ALL FAVORABLE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY AND
10:51:20 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:51:23 AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RANDY.
10:51:25 >> RANDY COEN: I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
10:51:31 >> WE CAN'T SEE IT YET.
10:51:44 THERE WE ARE.
10:51:45 GO AHEAD.
10:51:52 RANDY COEN, WEST CYPRESS STREET.
10:51:55 I HAVE BEEN SWORN, COEN AND COMPANY.
10:51:58 YOU WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT
10:52:01 TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND.
10:52:02 THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2004, THE NORTH
10:52:05 OFFICE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AT THAT TIME, AND A
10:52:09 PORTION OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS CONSTRUCTED AT THAT
10:52:11 TIME.
10:52:12 IN 2018, THE PROJECT WAS REZONED.
10:52:16 THE SECOND BUILDING WAS ENLARGED TO 223,488 SQUARE FEET.
10:52:25 OFFICE FOR UP TO 546 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, OR UP TO 524
10:52:30 HOTEL UNITS.
10:52:31 SO IT WAS A BUILDING THAT THIS H THREE OPTIONS, AND
10:52:35 THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS.
10:52:38 THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE SECOND PAGE MUCH REZ 1884 APPROVAL.
10:52:46 JUST TO WALK THROUGH, RYAN ALREADY SHOWED YOU THE
10:52:49 ELEVATIONS OUT OF THE 1884 REZONING.
10:52:52 PROJECT YOU APPROVED AT THIS POINT.
10:52:55 I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO WHAT IS PROPOSED AT THIS POINT.
10:52:57 OPTION 1.
10:52:58 AS YOU SEA, OPTION 1 IS I HAD SCHOOL TO THE CURRENT
10:53:01 APPROVAL, REZ 1884.
10:53:04 THE EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
10:53:06 FIRST HALF OF THE PARKING GARAGE CONSTRUCTED.
10:53:08 LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDING TO THE SOUTH.
10:53:11 AND A SUBSTANTIAL GARAGE EXPANSION.
10:53:14 SECOND PAGE, SAME THING, SAME AS OPTION 1.
10:53:18 OPTION 1 IS THE REZONING REZ 1884.
10:53:22 OPTION 2, WHICH WE ARE SHOWING HERE, IS WHAT WE ARE
10:53:26 ACTUALLY REQUESTING APPROVAL OF FOR TONIGHT SINCE OPTION
10:53:29 1 IS ALREADY APPROVED.
10:53:32 FIRST, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?
10:53:36 THEY WANTED THIS TO BECOME A MIXED USE PROJECT, THEY
10:53:39 WANTED TO HAVE A USE IN THE SOUTH BUILDING THAT WAS
10:53:42 COMPLEMENTARY TO THEIR OFFICE BUILDING.
10:53:44 THEY WANTED TO FIND A HIGH-END MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER WHO
10:53:47 DEVELOPED ON AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT AND WOULD BE
10:53:49 LONG-TERM AS FAR AS THEIR OWNERSHIP.
10:53:52 THEY FOUND CRESCENT COMMUNITIES THAT DOES EXACTLY THAT,
10:53:57 HEY END RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENTS, LONG
10:54:00 TIME OWNERSHIP AND CRESCENT COMMUNITIES WAS ACTUALLY
10:54:04 AWARDED LAST YEAR THE NATIONAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT
10:54:07 FIRM OF THE YEAR.
10:54:08 SO VERY IMPRESSIVE.
10:54:11 MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT'S REALLY
10:54:14 GOING ON HERE.
10:54:15 THE OPTION 1 BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS THIS RIGHT HERE.
10:54:19 VERY RECTANGULAR -- RECTANGULAR BUILDING.
10:54:24 WE ARE LOOKING TO RECONFIGURE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT,
10:54:27 MAKE IT NARROWER AND LONGER.
10:54:29 THAT TAKES US FROM A BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF 32,000 SQUARE
10:54:32 FEET TO 38,000 SQUARE FEET, ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:54:36 WRAP THE BUILDING A ROUND AND MASK THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
10:54:40 THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.
10:54:45 THE NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THIS PROJECT IN OPTION
10:54:49 2 ARE REDUCED FROM THE APPROVED 546 UNITS TO 292 UNITS.
10:54:54 THAT'S A REDUCTION OF 47%, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE
10:54:59 CONSTRUCTED OR CAN BE CONSTRUCTED IN OPTION 2 COMPARED TO
10:55:02 OPTION 1.
10:55:03 REQUESTING THE BUILDING HEIGHT BE INCREASED BY 23 FEET.
10:55:08 TALKED ABOUT THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
10:55:10 AVIATION AUTHORITY HAS DEEMED THE APPROPRIATE HEIGHT AT
10:55:15 138 FEET ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL, AND IN FACT WE HAVE
10:55:18 PERMITS NOW FROM THE FEDERAL AVIATION AUTHORITY FOR THAT
10:55:22 BUILDING HEIGHT OF ACTUALLY 135 FEET, BECAUSE THE PLAN ON
10:55:28 THE BUILDING WAS MORE REFINED THAN IT STARTED OUT.
10:55:33 THE OTHER NICE THING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THE FACT THAT
10:55:35 WE ARE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS INSTEAD
10:55:39 OF HAVING A GARAGE EXPANSION THAT IT COVERS THIS ENTIRE
10:55:42 AREA.
10:55:44 THE GARAGE EXPANSION IS REDUCED BY 50%.
10:55:49 IT IS A GOOD SAVINGS FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
10:55:51 WE ALSO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC AS A
10:55:54 RESULT OF THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS GOING DOWN.
10:55:57 FOR THE SECOND BUILDING THE REDUCTION IN PROJECT TRAFFIC
10:56:00 IS 48%.
10:56:02 113 TRIPS LESS IN THE MORNING, 118 TRIPS LESS IN THE
10:56:06 AFTERNOON THAN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN UNDER OPTION 1.
10:56:12 MOVE TO THE NEXT BUILDING, LET'S TALK ABOUT HATE.
10:56:14 WE KNOW FROM AN AVIATION AUTHORITY STANDPOINT AND AN FHA
10:56:20 STANDPOINT THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS ACCEPTABLE.
10:56:21 JENNIFER SAID THIS VERY NICELY.
10:56:25 OUR EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, 115 FEET, WE HAVE AN
10:56:27 8-STORY PARKING GARAGE HERE, WE HAVE A VERY TALL 4-STORY
10:56:32 OFFICE BUILDING HERE.
10:56:33 WE HAVE AN 8-STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING HERE.
10:56:37 WE HAVE AN 8-STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING HERE AND ANOTHER
10:56:40 SIGNIFICANT OFFICE BUILDING HERE.
10:56:44 THERE IS SINGLE-FAMILY ADJACENT TO THESE ADJACENT 8 STORY
10:56:47 MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
10:56:48 WHEN WE LOOK TO THE EAST WE ARE STILL IN THE OFFICE
10:56:50 BUILDINGS AND OF COURSE THOSE WILL CHANGE OVER TIME.
10:56:54 I WANT TO MOVE FROM THAT TO OUR NEXT SLIDE.
10:56:57 THIS IS OPTION 1.
10:56:59 THE BUILDINGS ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED AND THE REZ 1884
10:57:04 ZONING.
10:57:05 THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE NORTH, SECOND BUILDING ON
10:57:08 THE SOUTH.
10:57:11 THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED TODAY.
10:57:13 MULTIFAMILY BUILDING ON THE SOUTH, WITH A MUCH NARROWER
10:57:17 FACE TO THE WATER, THE EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
10:57:20 THIS BUILDING IS 23 FEET TALLER.
10:57:24 DOESN'T SEEM THAT WAY BECAUSE OF HOW WE CALCULATE HEIGHT
10:57:27 BECAUSE OF THE FAA PRESENCE AND ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL.
10:57:33 WANT TO GO BACK FOR A MINUTE NOW TO THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE
10:57:36 BECAUSE LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WAIVERS.
10:57:38 WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE WAIVERS.
10:57:41 FOUR OF WHICH ARE PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED AND TWO OF
10:57:44 THOSE ARE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED.
10:57:46 THE FIRST IS THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY WAIVER AND THAT'S
10:57:50 BECAUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS BILLED BUILT PRAYER TO
10:57:53 THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY BECOMING APPLICABLE ON THIS
10:57:56 PROPERTY AND IT DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE OVERLAY
10:57:59 NECESSITY FOR THAT PARTICULAR WAIVER.
10:58:01 THE SECOND WAIVER IS FOR LOADING BERTHS, AND THAT IS THE
10:58:08 SECOND WAIVER IS VEHICLE MANEUVERING FOR THE LOADING
10:58:10 BERTH.
10:58:11 THIS IS THE EXISTING LOADING FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING
10:58:15 AND THEY ARE BACKING OUT AND MANEUVERING ON THE ROADWAY.
10:58:18 THAT IS APPROVED AND HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR WELL OVER
10:58:20 TEN YEARS AT THIS POINT.
10:58:22 THIRD WAIVER WAS APPROVED FOR REDUCTION OF LOADING BERTHS
10:58:26 FROM 4 TO 2.
10:58:27 WE ARE MODIFYING THAT WAIVER IN THIS REQUEST TO HAVE A
10:58:31 WAIVER REDUCTION FROM 5 LOADING BERTHS TO 2.
10:58:36 IRONICALLY, HAVING TWO LOADING BERTHS IS ACTUALLY
10:58:39 CONSISTENT WITH THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THIS
10:58:42 PARTICULAR CASE.
10:58:43 NUMBER 4 IS A SIGN WAIVER.
10:58:45 SIGN WAIVER WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
10:58:47 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OTHER
10:58:50 THAN THAT, THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED UNDER CODE.
10:58:53 THE ONLY ISSUE WE ARE ASKING FOR AT THIS POINT IS THAT
10:58:55 THIS LOCATION IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE,
10:58:59 BECAUSE THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, BE APPROVED AS A
10:59:02 PART OF THAT WAIVER.
10:59:04 OUR FIFTH AND FINAL WAIVER, WHICH IS THE ONLY TECHNICALLY
10:59:07 NEW WAIVER, IS THAT WE HAVE A REDUCTION REQUEST OF 3% IN
10:59:12 THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PARKING.
10:59:15 THAT PARTICULAR REDUCTION IS FROM 1,213 PARKING SPACES TO
10:59:19 1,177 PARKING SPACES.
10:59:23 THAT'S A REDUCTION OF 36 SPACES.
10:59:25 WE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER LEVEL TO THIS
10:59:30 PARKING GARAGE EXPANSION OR EXPAND IT OUT TO THE EAST.
10:59:34 IT DIDN'T SEEM APPROPRIATE, AND FRANKLY IF WE HAD DONE A
10:59:38 SHARED PARKING CALCULATION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE
10:59:40 COULD HAVE WELL SUPPORTED A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER
10:59:43 PERCENTAGE OF PARKING REDUCTION THAN WHAT'S REQUESTED
10:59:45 HERE.
10:59:46 AND AT THAT POINT I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO
10:59:49 MR. MECHANIK, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:57 >>DAVID MECHANIK: JUST TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE OF POINTS.
11:00:00 THE PARKING REDUCTION REQUESTED IS VIRTUALLY MINIMAL, AND
11:00:09 IT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THE PEAK DEMAND FOR
11:00:13 OFFICE DURING THE DAY IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE PEAK DEMAND
11:00:19 DURING THE EVENING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USES, AND AGAIN
11:00:22 THE REDUCTION IS ONLY 3%.
11:00:26 AND SIMILARLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE
11:00:30 SIGN WAIVER IS NOT TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE BUT
11:00:35 TO JUST ALLOW FLEXIBILITY IN THE LOCATION OF THE SIGNS ON
11:00:39 THE BUILDING FACES.
11:00:42 SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
11:00:44 YOU MAY HAVE.
11:00:45 THANK YOU.
11:00:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM
11:00:48 COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:00:51 HEARING NONE, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN PERSON, SO
11:00:55 WE HAVE THE REGISTERED VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, IF WE CAN BRING
11:00:58 THEM ON, AND WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN.
11:01:01 >>JIM CREW: WE HAVE FIVE OF THE SEVEN WHO REGISTERED
11:01:14 ONLINE.
11:01:14 I CAN BRING THEM OVER ALL AT ONCE OR --
11:01:18 >>> ALL TOGETHER AT ONCE IS FINE AND THEN I WILL CALL
11:01:21 THEM ONE BY ONE.
11:01:25 >>JIM CREW: IF YOU WILL WAIT UNTIL FIVE APPEAR ONSCREEN
11:01:27 THEN I WILL START BRINGING THEM OVER.
11:01:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:01:29 >>JIM CREW: ALL FIVE, IF YOU WILL TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
11:02:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS IF YOU ARE
11:02:22 REGISTERED TO SPEAK AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN AT THIS
11:02:25 TIME.
11:02:28 I SEE TIM, ARLIN, DEBRA, THERE WAS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN.
11:02:41 ALL RIGHT.
11:02:41 WE'LL SWEAR IN THE THREE NOW.
11:02:45 TIM, ARLIN AND DEBRA, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT
11:02:48 HANDS.
11:02:56 DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH?
11:02:59 DO YOU HEAR HER?
11:03:01 >>THE CLERK:
11:03:02 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:03:04 >> I DO.
11:03:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:03:06 AND I SEE MCDONALD AS WELL.
11:03:10 LET'S START IN ORDER FROM HOW I SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.
11:03:13 THERE'S ARLIN BEACHY.
11:03:20 >> MY NAME IS ARLIN BEACHY, WEST CLEVELAND STREET, 33629.
11:03:27 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
11:03:28 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING ON
11:03:30 BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AS CONCERNED RESIDENTS OF THE BEACH
11:03:34 PARK NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DUE EAST OF THE PROPOSED
11:03:37 DEVELOPMENT ON BAY CENTER DRIVE.
11:03:39 OUR SPECIFIC CONCERNS ARE TWO FOLD.
11:03:42 THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT WILL ADVERSELY -- FOR A
11:03:48 NEIGHBORHOOD STREET THAT'S ALREADY BURDENED WITH
11:03:51 CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC AND SECONDLY THAT THE ADDED
11:03:55 RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FROM THIS PROJECT WILL DEVALUE OUR
11:03:59 NEIGHBORHOOD'S RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
11:04:01 MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS ON WEST CLEVELAND
11:04:04 STREET FOR -- YEARS, THE STREET IS EAST-WEST NEIGHBORHOOD
11:04:08 STREET, IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BEACH PARK
11:04:12 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:04:14 [~DISTORTION~] WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO THE EAST.
11:04:19 THE STRETCH OF ROAD IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE
11:04:21 LONG, AND FROM THIS PROPOSED.
11:04:28 THE FIRST STREET ACCESSIBLE FROM I-275 TO ON-RAMP
11:04:32 OFF-RAMP OF THE TAMPA SIDE OF THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE
11:04:35 AND BECAUSE OF THIS EASY ACCESS TO THE BRIDGE, WAS
11:04:39 CLEVELAND STREET ALONG WITH OTHER BEACH PARK STREETS TO
11:04:42 OUR SOUTH ARE ALREADY BURDENED WITH BEING KNOWN
11:04:45 CUT-THROUGH STREETS THAT PROVIDE THOSE COMMUTING BETWEEN
11:04:48 SOUTH TAMPA AND PINELLAS COUNTY AS ALTERNATIVE ROUTE
11:04:53 BETWEEN I-275 WITHOUT BEING STOPPED BY ANY OF THE FIVE
11:05:01 TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT THEY OTHERWISE FACE IF THEY INSTEAD
11:05:04 USE THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD CORRIDOR THAT'S BLOCKED
11:05:07 IMMEDIATELY TO OUR NORTH.
11:05:08 ALSO OUR STRETCH OF WEST CLEVELAND STREET AT THE STOP
11:05:11 SIGNS TO SLOB EAST-WEST TRAFFIC BETWEEN HAVER AND
11:05:15 WESTSHORE, THIS HAS QUASI-SPEED TABLE AND WE FIND THAT
11:05:19 MANY DRIVERS AREN'T SLOWED BY THEM.
11:05:21 ACCORDINGLY, WE ARE -- CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND
11:05:25 THE CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS TO
11:05:30 AND FROM WESTSHORE, AS THE RESIDENTS PROJECTS AND/OR
11:05:34 WORKERS ALMOST DON'T TRY TO AVOID THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD
11:05:40 CORRIDOR WHEN ACCESSING PARTS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
11:05:42 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE CITY BE MINDFUL AND TAKE THIS
11:05:47 CONCERN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN APPROVING HIGHER DENSITY
11:05:50 DEVELOPMENTS, AND REZONING APPLICATIONS AS WELL AS FUTURE
11:05:53 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS IN THIS AREA.
11:05:55 WE ALSO REQUEST WAYS TO DISINCENTIVIZE TRAFFIC FOR FUTURE
11:06:03 RESIDENTS FROM HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT FROM CUTTING
11:06:07 THROUGH, BY IMPROVING TRAFFIC FLOW ON THE KENNEDY
11:06:12 BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, AND/OR BY CONSEQUENTIAL TRAFFIC
11:06:17 CALMING MEASURES ON OUR STREET SUCH AS STOP SIGNS, SPEED
11:06:21 BUMPS, ET CETERA.
11:06:23 ALSO, I HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN WITH THE
11:06:26 DENSITY OF THE PROJECT, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF THE
11:06:29 PROJECT THAT COULD RESULT IN POTENTIALLY TRANSPORTATION
11:06:36 HAVING ROUTES THAT ARE REDIRECTED THROUGH OUR STREET OR
11:06:39 ONTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET POTENTIALLY THAT WITH BUS
11:06:44 STOPS AND WHILE WE UNDERSTAND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS A
11:06:46 VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE, IT CAN ALSO
11:06:51 ADD FURTHER CONGESTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:06:55 FINALLY, WE ALSO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED THAT AN
11:07:02 INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY COULD CAUSE COUNTY
11:07:06 SCHOOLS TO REZONE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM WHAT'S CONSIDERED
11:07:08 TO BE ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY DESIRED PUBLIC SCHOOL ZONES
11:07:12 IN THE COUNTY, AND IN DOING SO DEVALUES THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:07:17 AND THE HOMES WITHOUT PROVIDING US WITH ANY ADDED VALUE
11:07:20 OR AMENITIES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:07:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:07:25 >> WE THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND APPRECIATE IT.
11:07:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:07:29 NEXT UP IS TIM MCGAUGHEY.
11:07:32 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:07:33 YOU MAY SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
11:07:34 >> I COULD ALSO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
11:07:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:07:39 I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE SEE IT.
11:07:55 NOT YET.
11:07:55 >> IT MAY TAKE ME OUT.
11:08:18 OH, WAIT A SECOND.
11:08:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE ARE.
11:08:21 WE SEE IT.
11:08:21 BEACH PARK HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
11:08:23 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:08:24 >> EXCELLENT.
11:08:26 ALL RIGHT.
11:08:28 MY NAME IS TIM McGOVRY, 1011 SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE
11:08:35 SPEAKING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BEACH PARK HOMEOWNERS
11:08:37 ASSOCIATION.
11:08:37 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDES THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
11:08:40 AND WE HAVE HAD BOTH A BOARD MEETING AND A NEIGHBORHOOD
11:08:43 DISCUSSION THAT SENT ME HERE THIS EVENING.
11:08:46 WE ARE SEEKING YOUR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THIS PROJECT
11:08:47 HAS SEVERAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING
11:08:50 THOSE TO OUR OVERBURDENED SCHOOLS, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND
11:08:53 REDUCED PRIVACY.
11:08:55 THE DENSITY IS EQUAL TO ALL OF THE HOUSING THAT YOU SEE
11:08:59 WITHIN THIS BLACK CIRCLE, SO THE LOCATION OF THE STAR AND
11:09:05 THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CONSIDERABLE IMPACT.
11:09:08 NOW, THEY ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT WITH A
11:09:10 NUMBER OF WAIVERS AND EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE BASED ON
11:09:13 PREVIOUS APPROVALS AT THE SITE.
11:09:15 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISSECT THIS, BUT IN ESSENCE THEY ARE
11:09:18 SEEKING WAIVERS.
11:09:21 IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU APPROVE STAKE YOU SHOULD APPROVE
11:09:24 HOTDOGS.
11:09:25 IN 2004, WITH THE MASSIVE INCREASE IN THE OFFICE SQUARE
11:09:30 FOOTAGE FOR THE PROPOSED TWO BUILDINGS, THERE WAS
11:09:33 CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:09:36 IN 2018, THERE WAS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLANNED
11:09:40 DEVELOPMENT THAT RANDY TALKED ABOUT, THIS WAS REVISED
11:09:43 SECOND LARGER BUILDING.
11:09:44 ADDITIONAL USES OF THE BUILDING WERE ADDED AT THAT TIME.
11:09:47 AND THE IMPACTS OF SUCH A CHANGE WERE PROBABLY NOT
11:09:50 UNDERSTOOD BY THOSE THAT WERE IN THE NOTIFICATION RANGE
11:09:53 THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED HERE WHAT THE NOTIFICATION RANGE
11:09:55 IS WHICH BARELY TOUCHES THAT FIRST RESIDENTIAL BUILDING
11:09:59 THAT PLANNING POINTED OUT.
11:10:01 THE PROPOSED USE BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE FOR THAT
11:10:05 BUILDING, THAT WAS THE SAME AS WHAT'S BEEN IN THIS AREA
11:10:08 FOR 50 YEARS.
11:10:10 THAT'S ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU SEE TO THE EAST.
11:10:12 THE 2021 PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US NOW IS
11:10:15 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRIMARY USE BEING PROPOSED, AND
11:10:18 FRANKLY IT'S NOT IN LINE WITH THE AREA.
11:10:20 AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE SOME FORM OF
11:10:24 AN OFFICE ULTIMATELY.
11:10:26 AND SO WE FEEL THAT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS MEANT TO
11:10:31 ADDRESS SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ON-SITE, AND MEANT TO REDUCE
11:10:34 RISK, BECAUSE BOTH THE CITY AND DEVELOPER NOBODY WHAT
11:10:37 THEY CAN DO WITH THE SITE.
11:10:39 HERE WE HAVE GONE FROM A BUILDING PROPOSED IN 2004 TO A
11:10:42 LARGER VERSION OF THAT BUILDING PROPOSED IN 2018, AND NOW
11:10:45 WE HAVE ALTERNATE USES BEING ADDED, AND THEN IN 2021 ALL
11:10:50 OF THOSE USES ARE STILL THERE, PLUS NOW TWO DIFFERENT
11:10:52 DESIGNS BEING CONSIDERED.
11:10:54 SO I WOULD JUST PROPOSE A NINE STORY BUILDING OF
11:10:58 APARTMENTS AND ARE SEEKING APPROVAL AND DESIGN AND
11:11:00 TRANSACTION WAIVERS BASED ON THE JUSTIFICATION THAT THIS
11:11:03 USE IS LESS IMPACTFUL THAN THE 7 STORY OFFICES THAT WERE
11:11:06 ALREADY APPROVED.
11:11:07 BUT THE PROPOSAL AS THEY HAVE GOT IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW
11:11:10 THEM TO ULTIMATELY HAVE A NINE STORY OFFICE BUILDING OR A
11:11:13 NINE STORY HOTEL, OR SEVEN STORY MEDICAL BUILDING.
11:11:16 IT'S CERTAINLY CLEAR ALL OF THESE MULTIPLE DESIGNS AND
11:11:19 WAIVERS AMONGST ALL THESE POSSIBLE USES IS VERY
11:11:22 ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE DEVELOPER, IT IS NOT CLEAR AT ALL HOW
11:11:25 THIS HAS REDUCED ANY RISK TO THE VICINITY OF OUR
11:11:29 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:11:30 ULTIMATELY, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COMMIT TO A
11:11:34 PROJECT, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THEY
11:11:37 CAN COMMIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:11:40 THE BUILDING IS WAY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE
11:11:42 NEIGHBORHOOD, THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, THAT THEY HAVE
11:11:44 THERE.
11:11:45 IT'S ALREADY PRETTY OUT OF SCALE.
11:11:47 THEY MENTIONED THESE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE
11:11:49 THAT THE SCALE IS VASTLY DIFFERENT.
11:11:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:11:53 >> IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE AN EXTRA MINUTE, PLEASE, SINCE
11:11:56 I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:11:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, GO AHEAD.
11:11:59 >> I'M NEARLY DONE.
11:12:01 THANK YOU.
11:12:02 IT'S VERY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE I
11:12:05 SAID, THE EXISTING ONE IS ALREADY THAT, BUT EVERY OTHER
11:12:08 HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IN THIS AREA IS ON A
11:12:11 PRIMARY TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, IT'S ON KENNEDY, IT'S ON
11:12:15 LOIS OR WESTSHORE.
11:12:16 THE STREETS IN THIS PROPOSED PROJECT ARE ALL CLASSIFIED
11:12:18 BY THE CITY NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
11:12:20 THOSE EXISTING PROJECTS ARE NOT AS DENSE OR AS TALL AS
11:12:23 PROPOSED PROJECT.
11:12:25 THIS IS NOT SIMILAR TO ANY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
11:12:30 THERE ARE NO NINE STORY 138-FOOT TALL MULTIFAMILY RENTAL
11:12:34 BUILDINGS WITHIN THREE MILES OF BEACH PARK.
11:12:36 SO FRANKLY WE DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT BY THIS PLAN.
11:12:41 ULTIMATELY, WE ALSO FEEL -- IT'S CONNECTED BY STREET
11:12:48 ONLY, NOT ANY ACCESSIBILITY, IT'S LITERALLY WALLED OFF,
11:12:51 THE DESIGN ITSELF IS HIGHLIGHTING ITS UNSUITABILITY FOR
11:12:54 THE LOCATION, AND THE SPACE IS UNINHABITABLE DUE TO STORM
11:13:01 RISK.
11:13:01 YES, THIS IS ALSO A VE ZONE.
11:13:03 FRANKLY THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE.
11:13:05 FINALLY, OUR PRIMARY NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN IS TRAFFIC.
11:13:08 I MENTIONED THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
11:13:10 THIS PLAN HAS NOT PROVIDED ANYTHING TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC.
11:13:14 THE SIDEWALK AS YOU SAW ON THE LAST SLIDE IS
11:13:16 NONEXISTENCE.
11:13:17 THERE ARE NO BIKE RACKS, NO MIXED USE TO KEEP PEOPLE ON
11:13:22 SITE.
11:13:22 IF YOU ARE ALSO FAMILIAR WITH AZEELE EAST OF DALE MABRY I
11:13:26 WANT TO CALL OUT THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE WEST OF
11:13:30 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:13:31 THIS IS A QUITE RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH A SOFT SOLD, NO
11:13:34 SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPE TRUCKS, OTHER SERVICES OFTEN PARK
11:13:37 HERE, SO THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC, 46 CARS AN HOUR IS
11:13:41 SIGNIFICANT.
11:13:42 IN SUMMARY, WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT IS INCONSISTENT WITH
11:13:44 THE CURRENT LAND USE.
11:13:46 THE OBJECTIVES OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND THE
11:13:49 INVESTMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:13:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:13:52 NEXT IS DEBRA.
11:13:54 >> HI.
11:13:57 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:13:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
11:13:58 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:13:59 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:14:00 >> DEBRA KRAEMER, 5700 MARINER, AND MY CONCERN IS WHAT
11:14:05 OTHERS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
11:14:07 SO ON MARINER STREET, IT'S A DEAD-END STREET.
11:14:11 YOU CANNOT ACCESS MY HOME FROM THE SOUTH, CANNOT ACCESS
11:14:18 MY HOME FROM THE WEST BECAUSE OF THE WATER SO REALLY THE
11:14:21 ONLY WAY IN AND OUT IS CUT THROUGH THE STREETS AZEELE OR
11:14:26 CLEVELAND WHICH IS NOT REALLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS
11:14:30 TO BE A SHORTS CUT SO THAT MEANS THE ONLY WAY I CAN
11:14:33 ACCESS MY HOME IS BY HAVER OFF OF KENNEDY.
11:14:36 SO IT'S A VERY LIMITED, AND IF WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL 300
11:14:40 UNITS AND ALL THAT TRAFFIC, SO THAT'S A LITTLE -- MY
11:14:45 LITTLE AREA TO ADD TOTALS WEST SHORE AREA AND THE
11:14:49 ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO ON THERE.
11:14:51 I AM GREATLY CONCERNED.
11:14:53 I AM CONCERNED ABOUT EVACUATIONS AND STORM TIMES, AND I
11:14:59 WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE DEVELOPER BE DELAYED AND
11:15:03 SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND FIND OUT WHAT WE
11:15:06 CAN DO AS A COMPROMISE.
11:15:11 I THINK WE WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS RATHER LATE IN THE
11:15:13 PROCESS.
11:15:14 THANK YOU.
11:15:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:15:17 NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID MCDONALD.
11:15:22 >> HELLO.
11:15:23 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:15:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:15:25 GO AHEAD.
11:15:25 >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR PUTTING UP WITH US
11:15:28 SO LATE THIS EVENING AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
11:15:31 I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.
11:15:33 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AT
11:15:36 MARINER SOUTH.
11:15:37 I REPRESENT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS WELL AS 44
11:15:40 RESIDENTS IN BE THAT CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
11:15:43 WE ALL OWN OUR OWN CONDOMINIUM UNITS.
11:15:47 MARINER STREET IS SERVICED AS A CUL-DE-SAC WITH ONLY 32
11:15:53 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND 88 CONDOMINIUM UNITS OWNERS.
11:15:58 WE ALL OWN OUR OWN HOME.
11:16:00 WE DO NOT RENT.
11:16:02 I HAVE FOUND ERRORS AND OMISSIONS IN THE PRESENTATION BY
11:16:06 THE STAFF, NUMBER ONE WAS THE ERROR OF MORE THAN 50% OF
11:16:12 THE SITE BEING CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE
11:16:15 OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH IS INACCURATE.
11:16:18 ONLY 16,000 FEET HAD BEEN DEVELOPED.
11:16:22 THEY ARE PROPOSING 440,000 SQUARE FEET.
11:16:25 ANOTHER ERROR OR OMISSION IS ON LINE 6 WHERE THE STAFF
11:16:31 HAD FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT, IF YOU GO TO LINE 6 ON
11:16:37 PAGE 6, IT SAYS AT THE VERY LAST SENTENCE, THE PROPOSED
11:16:43 MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS OF BOTH OFFICE AND PARKING
11:16:47 STRUCTURE IN A SCALE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
11:16:51 AREA, THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT, BUT WHAT IS OMITTED IS
11:16:56 RESIDENTIAL PROPOSAL IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING
11:17:00 AREA.
11:17:03 THE PROJECT WILL INCREASE THE HEIGHT 20%, GOING FROM 115
11:17:08 FEET, WHICH IS PROPOSED ON THE ORIGINAL BUILDING THAT WAS
11:17:13 APPROVED, 138 FEET, WHICH IS A 20% INCREASE, AND THE
11:17:18 STAFF DID NOT ADDRESS THAT IN THEIR STATEMENT.
11:17:22 THEY TOTALLY OMITTED THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT OF OCCUPANCY.
11:17:27 FURTHERMORE, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE RESIDENTS
11:17:32 AND THE NEIGHBORS OF MARINER SHARE ONE WAY IN AND OUT AS
11:17:36 A CUL-DE-SAC, AS WAS MENTIONED BY DEBRA, AND MOST OF THE
11:17:41 PEOPLE ON MARINER HAVE BEEN LOCKED DOWN FOR THE PAST YEAR
11:17:46 AS THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS MANDATED THE COVID RESTRICTIONS
11:17:51 PUT IN PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
11:17:53 TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE THIS PAST YEAR ARE NOT VALID, AND
11:17:57 THEY DO NOT REPRESENT WHAT HAS BECOME IN THE FUTURE WITH
11:18:00 THE ADDITION OF 292 APARTMENTS THAT WILL BE TENANTS THAT
11:18:07 ARE RENTING, AND THEY WILL BRING AT LEAST 500 CARS TO THE
11:18:12 AREA ON A NIGHTLY USE, NOT DURING DAYTIME DRIVING, BUT
11:18:16 OVERNIGHT, AND THEY WILL BE IMPACTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:18:20 WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN OVER MY TIME AND
11:18:23 APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:18:25 THANK YOU.
11:18:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:18:27 AND JAMES, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER, SIR.
11:18:31 >> CRIMES CREED: (NO AUDIO).
11:18:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE YOU BUT YOU ARE MUTED.
11:18:46 >> THANK YOU.
11:18:49 MY NAME IS JAMES CREED, 5701 MARINER STREET, 703.
11:18:55 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
11:18:59 I AM REPRESENTING 44 HOMEOWNERS THERE, AND --
11:19:12 FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS 2004 ABOUT THE TRAFFIC
11:19:17 CONCERNS IN AND AROUND CENTER DRIVE BECAUSE OF DAY ONE OF
11:19:23 THIS DEVELOPMENT.
11:19:23 IN FACT MR. DINGFELDER SPOKE ELOQUENTLY AT THAT TIME
11:19:26 ABOUT THE ISSUES AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND COUNCILMAN
11:19:31 DINGFELDER MADE SOME PRETTY GOOD PREDICTIONS WHICH WERE
11:19:35 NOT FOLLOWED UP ON.
11:19:37 WE ARE NOW HERE 17 YEARS LATER AND TO THE BEST OF MY
11:19:42 KNOWLEDGE NONE OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY RESIDENTS
11:19:46 THEN HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO DATE.
11:19:48 THIS BEACH PARK AND ADJACENT AREAS SHOULD BE DEFERRED AND
11:19:54 COULD BE DEFERRED UNTIL THE ISSUES ARE ADEQUATELY
11:19:57 ADDRESSED.
11:20:00 THIS ALSO BORDERS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HAS A
11:20:03 SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:20:08 WE MET REQUEST THE DEVELOPER LAST WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME
11:20:11 AND BASICALLY SAID, WELL, IT COULD BE WORSE, AND THAT'S
11:20:15 NOT THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT TAINT.
11:20:18 HOWEVER, I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT 80% OF A BAD I DEDUCE
11:20:22 NOT MAKE AT GOOD IDEA.
11:20:24 THE 292 APARTMENTS IN THIS PROJECT, THE FACT THAT IT'S
11:20:28 THREE AND A HALF TIMES THE SIZE OF THE EXISTING MARINER
11:20:32 NORTH AND SOUTH BUILDINGS COMBINED, AND NOT CONSISTENT
11:20:36 WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT DENSITY OF THIS
11:20:38 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:20:40 BECAUSE THE PROJECT -- MUCH OF THE EAST AND SOUTHBOUND
11:20:46 TRAFFIC WILL BE TRAVELING STREETS LIKE MARINER, CLEVELAND
11:20:50 AND AZEELE PUTTING MORE TRAFFIC ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
11:20:53 AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE.
11:20:55 RESIDENTS ON THESE STREETS HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH
11:20:57 REPRESENTATIVES FOR YEARS NOW TRYING TO GET THESE ISSUES
11:21:00 ADDRESSED.
11:21:02 I RECEIVED LETTERS SUBMITTED BY GRAY ON CLEVELAND STREET
11:21:08 WHO SPEAKS ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THE CONDITIONS ON HER STREET.
11:21:11 IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, YOU SHOULD BEFORE YOU VOTE.
11:21:13 THIS PROJECT IS NOT IN LINE IN THE PROPER AREA.
11:21:18 THIS DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE WESTSHORE.
11:21:22 IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY MIXED USE FEATURES DESIGNED TORE
11:21:27 TRAFFIC OR AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS, IT IS NOT IN LINE
11:21:30 WITH THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE OVERLAY.
11:21:32 FURTHER, IN CONTRAST OBJECTIVE 1.5 AND THERE ARE NO PLANS
11:21:38 TO PROTECT THE DIRECT ACCESS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE
11:21:42 PROJECT, AND OBJECTIVE 896 AND 897.
11:21:48 SO WILLINGLY PARTNERED WITH THE DEVELOPERS IN A
11:21:51 COLLABORATIVE NATURE.
11:21:53 HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPER LATER WAITED TILL THE LAST MOMENT
11:21:56 TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NO REAL CHANGES WERE
11:21:59 POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THE PROJECT WAS ALREADY WELL ALONG.
11:22:03 IT IS NOT THE DEVELOPER'S RATE TO USE THE LAND IN AN
11:22:07 APPROPRIATE MANNER AND ECONOMIC INCENTIVE TO DO SO
11:22:09 QUICKLY.
11:22:10 YET THIS STRUCTURE WILL BE THERE FOR DECADES TO COME AND
11:22:13 IT'S CRITICAL WE GET IT RIGHT.
11:22:15 WE REALLY HAVE TO WAIT AOL 17 YEARS BEFORE THESE ISSUES
11:22:18 CAN BE ADDRESSED?
11:22:19 WHAT W THAT I YIELD MY TIME.
11:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:24 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN DINGFELDER.
11:22:29 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:22:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:22:35 THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WHO STAYED UP SO LATE TO GIVE US
11:22:40 YOUR INPUT.
11:22:41 I HAVE GOT A QUESTION, ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS.
11:22:45 JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE 2004
11:22:50 RECORDS, I DID VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THE 2004 REZONING?
11:22:53 DO YOU REMEMBER?
11:22:54 >> JAMES CREED: THE BUILDING IS THERE, SIR.
11:23:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN DID I VOTE PERSONALLY FOR IT?
11:23:03 >> I BELIEVE YOU DID.
11:23:06 YOU YOURSELF CALLED FOR A VARIETY OF TRAFFIC ISSUES TO BE
11:23:10 ADDRESSED.
11:23:11 MY POINT IS, A LOT OF ASSURANCES THAT I WOULD BE MAKING
11:23:16 TONIGHT AND A LIKELIHOOD -- THAT IS CERTAINLY THE PATTERN
11:23:21 FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS.
11:23:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SURE MARGARET VIZZI HAD SOME
11:23:28 INFLUENCE ON THAT PARTICULAR EVENING.
11:23:29 SO MY OTHER QUESTION COMES BACK TO STAFF.
11:23:36 DO WE STILL HAVE STAFF ON BOARD?
11:23:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:23:39 MANASSE IS ON THE LINE.
11:23:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T SEE YOU --
11:23:44 THERE YOU ARE.
11:23:46 SO RYAN, LET'S RUN THROUGH THESE NUMBERS AGAIN, JUST FOR
11:23:50 CLARIFICATION.
11:23:52 THE 2018 APPROVAL, WHICH BY THE WAY MR. CREED AND MR.
11:23:58 MCDONALD, ET CETERA, I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL IN 2018, THE
11:24:02 2018 APPROVAL WAS INCLUDED HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS
11:24:12 A POSSIBILITY ON THE EXISTING ZONING THAT'S THERE TODAY?
11:24:18 >> I WAS TRYING TO LOOK FOR IT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
11:24:26 IT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I WAS TRYING TO DO THE
11:24:29 CALCULATION.
11:24:31 546.
11:24:32 SO --
11:24:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT ON THAT?
11:24:36 STAFF?
11:24:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: DID YOU WANT THE DWELLING COUNTS?
11:24:43 IS THAT WHERE WE ARE --
11:24:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:24:45 I ASSUME THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:24:47 546 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
11:24:50 >>RYAN MANASSE: IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING?
11:24:56 I'M ASKING, DO YOU WANT THE CALCULATION I DID PREVIOUSLY?
11:24:59 OKAY.
11:24:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:25:02 SO HERE IS MY PROBLEM.
11:25:05 THE FIVE OF YOU THAT WERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO STAY UP THIS
11:25:08 LATE.
11:25:09 THEY HAVE AN EXISTING RATE TO PULL A PERMIT TODAY FOR 546
11:25:16 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
11:25:20 NOW, I AM NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT UPSETTING TO YOU.
11:25:24 IT MUST BE UPSETTING TO YOU.
11:25:25 I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN 2018.
11:25:27 I DON'T KNOW WHO PARTICIPATED OR WHO DIDN'T PARTICIPATE.
11:25:30 BUT AS A MATTER OF LEGAL RIGHT, AND MS. WELLS OTHER
11:25:34 SCREEN HERE WILL TELL YOU THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS
11:25:38 THEY CAN BUILD THOSE 546 UNITS TODAY.
11:25:41 IN CONTRAST, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT 292 UNITS.
11:25:47 OKAY?
11:25:48 SO I'M NOT -- IT'S NOT A PERFECT WORLD BUT I AM A LITTLE
11:25:55 BIT TORN BECAUSE IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND
11:25:57 THINGS LIKE THAT, TO ME, I WOULD RATHER HAVE 2992 UNITS.
11:26:03 AND I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT STREET BECAUSE AS MANY
11:26:06 OF YOU KNOW MY DAD LIVED IN MARINER FOR PROBABLY TEN
11:26:11 YEARS, DAVID.
11:26:12 SO ANYWAY, THAT'S A PART.
11:26:18 AND I AM NOT ASKING FOR ANY OF YOU TO SPEAK ON IT.
11:26:21 BUT THIS IS WHAT I AM TORN UP ABOUT, BECAUSE I AM NOT
11:26:24 SAYING IT TONIGHT STOP RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT TRAIN LEFT
11:26:30 THE STATION TWO, THREE YEARS AGO IN 2018.
11:26:34 AND I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT'S A DONE DEAL NOW. IS THERE A
11:26:41 POSSIBILITY THAT THIS DEVELOPER COULD WORK WITH YOU
11:26:43 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND COME UP WITH SOME
11:26:46 POSSIBLE MITIGATION, PERHAPS FUNDING SOME ADDITIONAL
11:26:51 SPEED BUMPS, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND
11:26:54 ADDRESSING SOME OF THAT?
11:26:56 I THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY REASONABLE, AND FRANKLY I AM
11:27:00 GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A DELAY, AN EXTRA DELAY
11:27:04 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, USUALLY WE HAVE TWO
11:27:06 WEEKS, BUT I AM GOING TO SUGGEST SIX WEEKS.
11:27:10 THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS.
11:27:13 I THINK AN ADDITIONAL MONTH FOR EVERYBODY TO WORK WITH
11:27:16 MR. MECHANIK AND WITH MR. COEN TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO
11:27:20 MAKE THIS A BETTER PROJECT, AND I AGREE, TIM, YOU TALKED
11:27:25 ABOUT MAKING IT MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, AND WITH THE
11:27:29 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
11:27:32 BUT WHEN IT COMES TO RAW NUMBERS, AGAIN, OVER THERE AT
11:27:37 THE MARINER, I WOULD RATHER HAVE 292 THAN 546.
11:27:41 SO THAT'S JUST ONE COUNCILMAN'S OPINION.
11:27:46 WE ARE NOT SET UP TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL DISCOURSE ON
11:27:49 THIS, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
11:27:51 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:55 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:27:57 MR. MASSEY, YES, SIR MANASSE?
11:28:03 RAIN RAN I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE MYSELF AND LEGAL
11:28:06 STAFF REQUEST ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WHAT CAN BE INCLUDED
11:28:08 IF THERE WAS THIS MOTION FOR AN EXTENDED SECOND READING.
11:28:12 YOU KNOW, AS THE REZONING, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE
11:28:15 PROPERTY, AND CATE, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, I DON'T
11:28:18 THINK ANYTHING WITH SPEED BUMPS OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY
11:28:21 BOUNDARY WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ADDING TO THIS REZONING
11:28:23 REQUEST.
11:28:24 I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY.
11:28:25 I AM TRYING TO MAKE IT ENFORCEABLE FOR THIS PD.
11:28:29 >>CATE WELLS: I AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT WITH REGARDS TO
11:28:35 ANY SUGGESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR MITIGATION.
11:28:41 THAT ISSUE WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR ON-SITE.
11:28:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST THAT WHEN
11:28:50 IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION, SOMETIMES THESE PROJECTS --
11:28:54 WE JUST HAD ONE ON RATTLESNAKE.
11:28:59 THEY SPEAK TO OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
11:29:01 WE HAD ANOTHER ONE UP THERE BY KENNEDY BY UT.
11:29:04 THE CONDITIONS SPEAK TO OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
11:29:07 AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FUNDING THROUGH THE
11:29:09 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
11:29:10 I AM TALKING ABOUT FUNDING ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS
11:29:14 THROUGH THE CITY THAT MIGHT HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE
11:29:18 IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT.
11:29:20 AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING IT'S 100% REQUIRED, BUT I
11:29:26 AM SAYING THAT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN
11:29:31 YOU ARE BUILDING, ALMOST 300 UNITS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
11:29:37 A MULTI, MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND SOME ADDITIONAL
11:29:40 MITIGATION OFFERED THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
11:29:42 MR. MECHANIK, MIGHT BE A NICE AND APPROPRIATE THING.
11:29:48 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE AND FIX EVERY PROBLEM, MR.
11:29:52 COEN, BUT I THINK SOME DIALOGUE IN THAT REGARD MIGHT BE
11:29:56 APPROPRIATE, AND ADDING AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION OR TWO
11:30:00 ALONG THOSE LINES DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A HUGE DEAL.
11:30:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, I SAW YOUR HAND
11:30:07 UP.
11:30:08 THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. COEN.
11:30:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO INQUIRE WITH BE THE
11:30:13 APPLICANT INCLUDING THE DELAYED SECOND READING.
11:30:17 I THAT WAS ALL.
11:30:20 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:30:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COEN THEN MR. MECHANIK.
11:30:24 WELL, GO TO REBUTTAL UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
11:30:27 FROM COUNCIL.
11:30:28 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD A QUESTION OUT-OF-THEIR REBUTTAL.
11:30:36 >> RANDY COEN: MAY I ANSWER?
11:30:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:41 THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE WESTSHORE DRI.
11:30:44 THE WESTSHORE DRI REQUIRES EACH DEVELOPMENT TO CONTRIBUTE
11:30:51 MONEY TOWARDS THE TRANSPORTATION THAT IS ACTUALLY
11:30:53 CONTROLLED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WESTSHORE.
11:30:55 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE
11:30:58 RIGHT AT $85,900.
11:31:02 SO THIS DEVELOPER WILL BE CONSIDERABLY PROVIDING FUNDS
11:31:06 FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:31:08 THAT'S HOW ALL OF THE SPEED TABLES ARE BASICALLY BEEN
11:31:12 CONSTRUCTED IN BEACH PARK AMONG OTHER THINGS.
11:31:15 AND I WILL SAY THAT IN 2018, SINCE WE INCREASED THE SIZE
11:31:20 OF THAT SECOND OFFICE BUILDING, THERE WAS A FULL
11:31:22 TRANSPORTATION STUDY THAT WAS DONE, REVIEWED AND APPROVED
11:31:25 AS A PART OF THE 2018 REZONING.
11:31:29 THIS DEVELOPER WILL BE PAYING AND HAS PAVED INTO THE
11:31:34 NEIGHBORHOOD TRUST FUND, SECOND BUILDING WILL PAY INTO
11:31:36 THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRUST FUND -- TRANSPORTATION, EXCUSE ME,
11:31:41 NOT TRUST FUND.
11:31:42 AND THAT AMOUNT IS ALMOST $86,000.
11:31:45 THANK YOU.
11:31:48 >>DAVID MECHANIK: AND TO FURTHER ANSWER THAT QUESTION,
11:31:52 THIS PROJECT WOULD BE PAYING APPROXIMATELY $300,000 IN
11:31:58 MULTIMODAL FEES, WHICH THE EXPENSE OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE
11:32:05 SOLELY WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY, NOT THIS
11:32:09 APPLICANT, SO THAT'S A CONSIDERABLE SUM OF MONEY THAT
11:32:14 COULD BE USED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:32:19 CONCERNS.
11:32:21 I BELIEVE THAT MR. KENNY GRAPH OF CRESCENT RESOURCES
11:32:29 WANTED TO RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONS, IF WE COULD DO
11:32:32 THAT, IF HE CAN -- I THINK HE'S REGISTERED.
11:32:36 I'M HOPING HE CAN HOOK IN HERE.
11:32:40 >> I SEE HE WAS NOT SWORN IN.
11:32:45 WE HAVE TO SWEAR HIM IN.
11:32:46 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, TIM.
11:32:50 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE
11:32:53 TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:32:56 >> I DO.
11:32:56 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:32:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:33:00 >> TIM GRAFF WHAT'S THE QUESTION?
11:33:11 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YOU TEXTED ME.
11:33:13 >> I COULDN'T FIND OUT THE CAMERA THING.
11:33:15 THERE IT IS.
11:33:17 I WAS HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY IN CASE I NEEDED TO
11:33:20 SPEAK.
11:33:21 I'M SORRY.
11:33:23 >>DAVID MECHANIK: WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, I MEAN,
11:33:27 I THINK WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THE
11:33:32 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:33:33 HOWEVER, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD
11:33:37 IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD
11:33:42 ASSIST WITH THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE ZONING
11:33:45 APPROVAL.
11:33:48 THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT SOMETHING OVER THE CANAL IN
11:33:51 FRONT OF OUR BUILDING, AND WE AGREED TO ASSIST THEM IN
11:33:57 GETTING APPROPRIATE ACTION TAKEN BY THE D.O.T. AND
11:34:02 EVENTUALLY THE CITY, AND THAT CAN'T BE A CONDITION OF THE
11:34:06 ZONING, BUT WE WERE WILLING TO DO THAT.
11:34:09 SIMILARLY, THERE WAS A PROPERTY ALONG THE SEAWALL IN
11:34:14 FRONT, THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY IS NOT OWNED BY
11:34:18 HIGHWOOD, BUT WE OFFERED TO ASSIST THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN
11:34:24 ACTIVATING THAT AREA TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC RECREATIONAL
11:34:30 SPACE, AND SO WE OFFERED TO DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, SO,
11:34:35 MR. DINGFELDER, I THINK WE WERE WORKING IN THE DIRECTION
11:34:38 THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING NOW.
11:34:49 MR. CHAIRMAN, SHOULD I ADDRESS -- SPEAK TO THE -- ORIGIN
11:34:56 THE REBUTTAL AT THIS POINT?
11:34:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
11:34:59 COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
11:35:00 IF NOT WE GO TO REBUTTAL.
11:35:02 GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:35:05 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES.
11:35:06 I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE POINTS HAVE CERTAINLY ALREADY BEEN
11:35:08 COVERED.
11:35:09 WE ARE PROPOSING A REDUCTION OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS, SO
11:35:14 WHATEVER TRAFFIC CONCERNS ARE BEING RAISED ARE GOING TO
11:35:18 BE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED, IF THIS PROPOSAL IS APPROVED.
11:35:28 SCHOOL CAPACITY IS AN ISSUE WHICH IS ADDRESSED AT THE
11:35:32 BUILDING PERMIT STAGE, AT THE CONCURRENCY ISSUE. IF
11:35:39 THERE IS NO SCHOOL CAPACITY WE WILL NOT GET A BUILDING
11:35:43 PERMIT.
11:35:43 I THINK THERE IS FULL CAPACITY BUT THAT'S A SELF POLICING
11:35:47 KIND OF ISSUE.
11:35:52 IF THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING IS SELF-EVIDENT, THERE ARE
11:35:55 TWO, IF YOU WILL, MID RISE 8-STORY CONDOMINIUMS
11:35:59 IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND
11:36:04 IT'S TOTALLY IN SCALE, AS MR. MANASSE REPORTED IN HIS
11:36:09 STAFF REPORT.
11:36:11 MR. COEN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO MY REBUTTAL
11:36:15 THERE?
11:36:15 >> RANDY COEN: JUST A FEW THINGS, IF I MAY.
11:36:19 AGAIN, TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE
11:36:22 2018 REZONING.
11:36:23 THERE'S NO NEED TO REDO THE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THIS POINT
11:36:26 BECAUSE OPTION 2 IS ACTUALLY REDUCING TRAFFIC FOR THE
11:36:29 SECOND BUILDING BY 48%.
11:36:32 IT'S REDUCING THE TOTAL OF THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
11:36:35 RESIDENTIAL UNITS BY 47%.
11:36:38 THE PROJECT IS MIXED USE.
11:36:41 WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND WE HAVE OFFICE.
11:36:43 THAT'S TWO OF THE LEGS OF THE THREE LEGGED STOOL OF MIXED
11:36:46 USE.
11:36:47 EMPLOYMENT AND RESIDENTIAL.
11:36:49 THE THIRD IS RETAIL.
11:36:51 WE ARE A SUBSTANTIAL MIXED USE PROJECT, 40% ONE USE, 60
11:36:59 PERCENT THE OTHER USE.
11:37:00 IMPACT FEES, ABILITY FEES, THOSE ARE $325,000.
11:37:04 I CALCULATED THEM.
11:37:05 THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSPORTATION FEE, WHICH IS UNDER THE
11:37:08 CONTROL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE CITY
11:37:12 OF TAMPA WILL BE $85,900.
11:37:17 A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS
11:37:20 THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CALM TRAFFIC,
11:37:24 TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC, TO REDIRECT TRAFFIC TO KENNEDY
11:37:27 BOULEVARD AND THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS HAVE BEEN PAID OUT OF
11:37:32 THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD FUND THAT WAS SET UP WHEN
11:37:34 THE DRI WAS APPROVED IN THE 1980s.
11:37:37 IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND IT'S
11:37:40 PROVED VERY EFFECTIVE TO BE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE
11:37:42 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:37:45 THIS PROJECT WILL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
11:37:46 IT'S CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD
11:37:49 NEIGHBOR.
11:37:50 IT HAS PROVIDED SUBSTANTIAL FUNDS TO THE PAST FOR THE
11:37:54 NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION NEIGHBORHOOD FEES
11:37:56 THAT ARE CHARGED OUT OF THE DRI.
11:37:58 AND I WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU, DAVE.
11:38:01 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO
11:38:03 ADD.
11:38:04 WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
11:38:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:38:07 ANYTHING ELSE?
11:38:08 A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:38:11 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:38:13 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:38:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:38:15 ALL RIGHT.
11:38:16 ANY OPPOSED?
11:38:18 ALL RIGHT.
11:38:19 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:38:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION?
11:38:26 I SEE COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS HIS HAND UP.
11:38:28 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:38:33 YOU ARE MUTED.
11:38:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
11:38:39 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:38:41 WE ARE ON NUMBER 8 HERE.
11:38:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:38:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL READ THAT IF I MAY.
11:38:48 I READ AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:38:51 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
11:38:54 GENERAL VICINITY MUCH 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE IN THE CITY
11:38:57 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:38:59 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
11:39:04 DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL,
11:39:07 HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
11:39:11 DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL,
11:39:14 HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:39:15 DATE, AND LET ME -- OH, DEAR LORD, I HAVE TO FIND THE
11:39:23 SUPPORT SHEET HERE.
11:39:24 I'M SORRY.
11:39:25 I USUALLY HAVE THESE PRINTED OUT IN FRONT OF ME.
11:39:27 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I MAY, PLEASE ADD THE REVISED
11:39:50 REVISION SHEET.
11:39:51 >>LUIS VIERA: WITH THE REVISED REVISION SHEET, THANK
11:39:53 YOU.
11:39:57 DEER LORD.
11:39:58 SORRY.
11:39:59 THIS IS WHY I HATE APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
11:40:07 OKAY, I WILL GET IT.
11:40:08 APPLICANT HAS MET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF THAT THE
11:40:12 DEVELOPMENT AND CONDITION OF THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT
11:40:14 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE, AND ALSO ADOPT
11:40:19 THE FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, CITY
11:40:23 STAFF REPORTS.
11:40:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:40:26 VIERA.
11:40:26 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:40:27 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:40:29 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:40:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
11:40:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:40:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
11:40:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:40:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:40:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:40:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION DID NOT CARRY WITH CITRO,
11:40:59 DINGFELDER, AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO, AND MIRANDA BEING
11:41:03 ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:41:11 >>DAVID MECHANIK: COULD WE ASK TO BE HEARD BEFORE A FULL
11:41:12 COUNCIL?
11:41:13 I DIDN'T REALIZE MR. MIRANDA WAS NOT PRESENT.
11:41:18 >>LUIS VIERA: DO HAVE WE KNOW WHERE HE IS?
11:41:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, HE'S ALREADY GONE HOME.
11:41:29 MR. SHELBY, SINCE IT'S A SPLIT 3-3 VOTE, AND WE HAVE ONE
11:41:33 COUNCILMEMBER MISSING, WHEN WOULD WE SCHEDULE THIS FOR A
11:41:36 FULL COUNCIL HEARING?
11:41:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON A 3-3 VOTE YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING
11:41:44 WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT -- IF A MOTION IN A
11:42:00 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER FAILS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST FOUR
11:42:02 VOTES THE MOTION FAILS, AND IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS
11:42:07 NOT MADE THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL AUTOMATICALLY OPENED TO
11:42:12 A TIME CERTAIN AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL
11:42:14 MEETING.
11:42:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE THURSDAY COMING UP?
11:42:23 >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER WAS SUGGESTING
11:42:25 MAYBE AN AMENDED MOTION, IF YOU MADE THAT AMENDMENT.
11:42:29 I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT BUT IF WE MADE
11:42:32 THAT AMENDMENT WOULD YOU VOTE FOR IT SO THERE WOULD BE
11:42:34 TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPER?
11:42:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU STATED IT AT THE
11:42:46 BEGINNING OF THE HEARING.
11:42:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WAITING INFORM MR. MECHANIK TO
11:42:51 PROPOSE DELAY AND SOME MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE IN TERMS OF
11:42:58 ADDITIONAL MITIGATION TO THE COMMUNITY, AND POSSIBLE
11:43:04 ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE
11:43:08 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF SITE PLAN
11:43:11 AND THE AESTHETICS OF HOW THE SITE PLAN RELATED TO THE
11:43:15 COMMUNITY, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT.
11:43:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY?
11:43:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN REOPEN THE HEARING, PLEASE.
11:43:22 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVED, VIERA.
11:43:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:43:26 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:43:28 ALL RIGHT.
11:43:32 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I WILL CERTAINLY -- DAVID MECHANIK FOR
11:43:34 THE RECORD.
11:43:35 I WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THAT REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW
11:43:38 FOR ADDITIONAL DIALOGUE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:43:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN DO WE WANT TO COME BACK WITH
11:43:46 THIS SECOND READING?
11:43:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD BE FIRST READING.
11:43:49 IT WOULD BE -- EXCUSE ME, MARTIN SHELBY FOR THE RECORD.
11:43:54 IT WOULD BE TO ALLOW MR. MIRANDA TO REVIEW THE FILE AND
11:43:57 TO BE PREPARED TO VOTE TO BE ABLE TO ASK ANY
11:44:01 ADDITIONAL -- I'M SORRY?
11:44:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT,
11:44:05 MR. SHELBY.
11:44:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY MEETING
11:44:08 WITH THE -- THE PETITIONER MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
11:44:13 IF YOU COULD JUST RESTATE IT.
11:44:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE WAS A QUESTION TO ME, AND I
11:44:18 THINK MR. CARLSON'S INSINUATION WAS, COULD I SUPPORT A
11:44:23 MOTION, A MOTION FOR FIRST READING THIS EVENING, AND I
11:44:27 SAID, AND MY ANSWER IS YES, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE
11:44:32 CONTINGENT UPON A SECOND READING BEING DELAYED, BEING
11:44:35 DEFERRED SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS TO GIVE MR. MECHANIK AND HIS
11:44:39 TEAM PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THESE FOLKS AND
11:44:44 SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO, YOU KNOW.
11:44:45 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO, BUT SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.
11:44:49 AND WITH THAT I WILL SUPPORT THAT MOTION.
11:44:53 IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MOTION.
11:44:59 LUIS' MOTION WAS A LITTLE WEAK.
11:45:01 >> SO COME BACK AT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, CORRECT?
11:45:09 MECHANIC.
11:45:10 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WOULD BE MR. MECHANIK LIKE TO DO?
11:45:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COME BACK FOR SECOND READING.
11:45:16 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. MECHANIK, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?
11:45:20 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER DATE --
11:45:23 >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A CONTINUATION OR
11:45:25 FIRST READING?
11:45:28 >>DAVID MECHANIK: HAVE FIRST READING, IF I HAVE AN OPTION
11:45:30 ON THAT, YES, SIR.
11:45:31 >>BILL CARLSON: AND SORRY, MS. WELLS, BUT I THINK THE
11:45:36 IMPLICATION AND THE DISCUSSION THAT MR. DINGFELDER HAD
11:45:38 EARLIER WOULD BE THAT WHETHER WE STATED IT APPROPRIATELY
11:45:42 OR NOT THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME CONVERSATION BETWEEN
11:45:44 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:45:46 SO I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
11:45:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION FOR THE BOARD.
11:45:53 MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
11:45:58 THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WOULD CHANGE BETWEEN FIRST AND
11:46:04 SECOND READING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR COUNCIL TO ADD
11:46:13 ADDITIONAL COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO THE RECORD?
11:46:18 I GUESS MY POINT IS THIS, THAT I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE
11:46:22 WOULD BE, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT RESOLVED
11:46:27 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND VOTE TO VOTES ARE
11:46:33 CHANGED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A LEGAL BASIS FOR
11:46:36 THAT CHANGE OF VOTES.
11:46:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING I THINK GOES BACK
11:46:43 TO THE FIRST PORTION OF IT.
11:46:44 IN THAT CASE, I GUESS WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONTINUANCE, TO
11:46:53 LOOK AT THE OPTIONS THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE THAT MR.
11:46:57 DINGFELDER WAS TALKING ABOUT.
11:46:58 THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, IT WOULD GO TO
11:47:03 THE HEARING.
11:47:04 WHAT WOULD CHANGE?
11:47:07 WE WILL GO WITH THESE DISCUSSIONS AGAIN.
11:47:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND BY THE WAY, IF A CHANGE IS AGREED
11:47:12 UPON BY THE PETITIONER MATE REQUIRE GOING BACK TO FIRST
11:47:15 READING DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT CHANGE IS.
11:47:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
11:47:21 I THINK THE SAFEST ROUTE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME THE SAFEST
11:47:28 ROUTE IS TO GET THE CONTINUANCE SO THOSE OPTIONS CAN BE
11:47:32 DISCUSSED AND THEN WE COME BACK FIRST READING VERSUS
11:47:34 GOING INTO THAT OTHER SEGUE, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T HEARD
11:47:38 BACK.
11:47:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW MIND YOU, MR. MECHANIK'S POSITION
11:47:42 RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE RULES AS THEY ARE STATED, IS HE
11:47:45 CAN HAVE IT HEARD AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK UNDER THESE
11:47:48 RECALLS.
11:47:49 NOW, IF HE'S WILLING TO AGREE TO A CONTINUANCE, TO
11:47:53 ADDRESS SOME COUNCIL'S CONCERNS, THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO
11:47:56 TAKE SOME EXTRA TIME, THAT'S HIS PREROGATIVE, IF HE
11:47:58 WISHES.
11:48:01 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS JUST IF WE
11:48:04 REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE.
11:48:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:48:07 AND CAN BE DONE DURING A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OR DOES
11:48:10 IT HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED DURING AN EVENING MEETING?
11:48:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED FOR AN
11:48:15 EVENING MEETING.
11:48:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES OR DOES NOT?
11:48:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES NOT.
11:48:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S SCHEDULE IT DURING A REGULAR
11:48:22 COUNSELING MEETING AND GET THAT 4 TO 6-WEEK PERIOD THAT
11:48:24 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SUGGESTED, AND I SEE MARCH
11:48:27 18th.
11:48:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY WE INQUIRE WITH PETITIONER AS TO
11:48:31 HIS POSITION ON THAT?
11:48:33 >>DAVID MECHANIK: WE WOULD AGREE TO THAT DATE.
11:48:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:48:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:48:37 SO SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION.
11:48:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:48:44 MR. SHELBY, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE PRIOR VOTE WE JUST
11:48:49 MADE?
11:48:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PRIOR VOTE FAILED ON A 3-3.
11:48:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT PER OUR RULES IT
11:48:56 SAYS YOU HAVE TO COME BACK WHEN THERE'S A FULL BOARD, DO
11:48:59 THEY NOT?
11:49:00 SO DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE VOTE WE MADE PRAYER?
11:49:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
11:49:05 THE VOTE FAILS ON A 3-3.
11:49:08 NOW, WITH THE REQUEST FOR A FULL BOARD, WHICH IS WHAT
11:49:11 YOUR RULES WOULD REQUIRE, MR. MIRANDA MUST BE PREPARED TO
11:49:15 THEN REVIEW THE RECORD SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE
11:49:18 OTHERWISE, HE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER TO BE
11:49:22 ABLE TO BE IN EFFECT THE DECIDING VOTE.
11:49:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY.
11:49:36 WHEN YOU READ THE RULE A MINUTE AGO, I THOUGHT WHAT IT
11:49:38 SAID, I THOUGHT WHAT YOU SAID WAS, UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER
11:49:42 MOTION.
11:49:42 AND I JUST HEARD MR. VIERA TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION TO
11:49:47 CONTINUE.
11:49:48 SO IF THERE IS A MOTION, THEN IT TAKES AWAY THAT 3-3
11:49:55 MIRANDA TYPE BREAKER ISSUE BECAUSE NOW THERE'S T MOTION
11:49:58 FAILS 3-3.
11:50:00 NOW THERE'S A NEW MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
11:50:01 THE NEW MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS CONTINUED.
11:50:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS, THE
11:50:07 QUESTION IS, A NEW MOTION ENTIRELY IN ORDER TO ALLOW A
11:50:14 FULL COUNCIL.
11:50:16 WHAT YOU ARE ASKING --
11:50:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT WHAT THE MOTION IS.
11:50:20 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THE MOTION FAILED.
11:50:24 THERE WAS NOT A MOTION TO DENY THAT WAS TAKEN.
11:50:26 THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS MATTER BE
11:50:30 CONTINUED.
11:50:31 I HAVE MADE THAT MOTION.
11:50:32 I THINK WE OUGHT TO VOTE ON THE MOTION.
11:50:35 IT IS THE APPLICANT'S WISH FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED.
11:50:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
11:50:39 AND WAS THEREBY A SECOND?
11:50:42 YOU ARE CORRECTED, SIR.
11:50:43 WAS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?
11:50:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:50:47 VIERA.
11:50:48 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:50:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:50:53 ANY OPPOSED?
11:50:55 ALL RIGHT.
11:50:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN THE DATE AND TIME FOR THAT
11:51:00 PLEASE.
11:51:00 >> THAT'S GOING TO BE A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WHICH
11:51:03 WILL BE MARCH 18th.
11:51:06 DO WE HAVE IT SET DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS, 9:30?
11:51:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD SUGGEST 10:00 30.
11:51:14 FOR WHAT DATE AGAIN, SIR?
11:51:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 18th, A REGULAR COUNCIL
11:51:18 MEETING AT 10:30 A.M.
11:51:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU GET THAT, MR. MECHANIK?
11:51:25 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR.
11:51:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:28 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:51:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 9.
11:51:31 MR. MANASSE.
11:51:32 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER IT IS FILE REZ 20-104 FOR
11:51:37 THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3110 EAST LAKE AVENUE AND THE
11:51:40 REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO REZONE FROM RS 350 RESIDENTIAL
11:51:43 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR INDEPENDENT
11:51:48 LIVING FACILITY.
11:51:49 I WILL DEFER TO JENNIFER MALONE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION
11:51:51 AND THEN IF YOU WILL PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
11:51:53 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:52:01 IF THE COMMISSION WOULD SHARE MY SCREEN.
11:52:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:52:12 GO AHEAD.
11:52:17 THAT'S NOT THE CORRECT ONE.
11:52:29 ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
11:52:30 >>JENNIFER MALONE: OKAY.
11:52:32 20-104, CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, IT IS IN THE
11:52:37 EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
11:52:39 IT IS A VERY NARROW SITE OFF OF EAST LAKE AVENUE, TO THE
11:52:43 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, TO
11:52:46 THE WEST IS A CHURCH, THERE'S ANOTHER CHURCH SOUTH OF THE
11:52:49 SUBJECT SITE, FURTHER EAST THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
11:52:52 TRANSITIONS TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, BUT THERE'S
11:52:55 MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF
11:52:58 THE SUBJECT SITE.
11:52:59 SO THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE
11:53:02 DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL 20.
11:53:04 TOTAL EAST ON THE DARKER ROUTE IS RESIDENTIAL 35.
11:53:07 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION ALLOWS UP TO 20 DWELLING
11:53:11 UNITS.
11:53:12 THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH ONE
11:53:15 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AT A DENSITY OF 2. IT 47 UNITS PER
11:53:19 ACRE WHICH IS VERY UNDERUTILIZED, ACCORDING TOTAL LAND
11:53:23 USE DESIGNATION.
11:53:24 THE APPLICANT UNDER THIS REQUEST IS PROPOSING FIVE
11:53:27 DWELLING UNITS, 14 UNITS PER ACRE, VERY CONSISTENT WITH
11:53:31 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THAT
11:53:37 IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION SO IT
11:53:40 WOULD BE UTILIZING UNDERUTILIZED LAND PROVIDING HOUSING
11:53:45 FOR TAMPA'S POPULATION, ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE
11:53:50 PLAN.
11:53:52 THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
11:53:53 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I CAN PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
11:53:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:54:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: NUMBER 9, REZ 20-10 HAD.
11:54:08 REZONING REQUEST IS RS-50 TO PD FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING
11:54:11 FACILITY, AND THE DEFINITION FOR THAT SPECIFIED USE,
11:54:15 THERE ARE FOUR PROPOSED WAIVERS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ON
11:54:17 SCREEN.
11:54:23 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY,
11:54:25 CONTAINS ONE LOT MEASURING 50 FEET BY 380 FEET.
11:54:28 THE APPLICATION REQUESTS FIVE STRUCTURES CONTAINING 506
11:54:34 SQUARE FEET EACH FOR USE IN THE LIVING FACILITY.
11:54:36 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ONE OCCUPANT PER UNIT.
11:54:39 THE SURFACE PARKING IS PROPOSED ON THE SOUTHERN END OF
11:54:41 THE PROPERTY WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS ON EAST LAKE AVENUE.
11:54:47 ON THE EAST PROVIDING CONNECTIVITY FROM THE PARKING AREA
11:54:49 TO EACH STRUCTURE.
11:54:51 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN
11:54:53 VILLAGE AND THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, IN
11:54:59 COMPLIANCE WITH THE EAST TAMPA DESIGN STANDARD ARE
11:55:01 REQUIRED AT TIME OF PERMITTING.
11:55:03 URBAN DESIGN STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND FINDS IT
11:55:06 INCONSISTENT AND IF WOULD YOU REFER TO THE FINDINGS
11:55:09 PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
11:55:11 THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST LAKE AVENUE
11:55:14 EAST OF 30th STREET AND WEST OF NORTH 34th
11:55:16 STREET.
11:55:17 THE PROPOSED PD SETBACKS ARE NORTH 20 FEET, SOUTH 95
11:55:20 FEET, WEST 7 FEET AND EAST 7 FEET.
11:55:23 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HIGHLIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 35 FEET.
11:55:26 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
11:55:29 USES TO THE NORTH AND WEST AND RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT AND
11:55:32 A CHURCH TO THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING
11:55:38 DISTRICT AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST AND RM-18 AND RS-50
11:55:41 ZONING DISTRICT.
11:55:44 THIS AERIAL MAP FURTHER SHOWS MANY OF THE NATIONAL AND
11:55:49 LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS THAT WE TRY TO FIND WITHIN A
11:55:51 THOUSAND FEET.
11:55:52 AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE NONE.
11:55:53 AS JENNIFER SHOWED IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SITE AS IT HAS A
11:55:57 SMALL FRONTAGE BUT IT IS VERY DEEP IN DEPTH.
11:56:01 THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED THERE.
11:56:02 AND HERE IS EAST LAKE AVENUE.
11:56:07 THE SITE BEFORE YOU IS THE PD PLAN.
11:56:09 YOU CAN SEE PARKING IS IN THE FRONT AND THAT KIND OF
11:56:12 RELATES TO ONE OF THE WAIVERS FROM URBAN DESIGN AS THEY
11:56:14 CAN'T MEET THE URBAN DESIGN OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT
11:56:17 WITH THE PARKING IN THE FRONT, THE OVERLAY STANDARDS
11:56:22 REQUIRING SIDE AND SUCH.
11:56:24 BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, TAMPA INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES
11:56:27 ARE ALIGNED WITH THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO EACH ONE TO
11:56:30 THE PARKING AREA, AND THEN FURTHERMORE GOING OUT TO THE
11:56:34 STREET WITH THE SIDEWALK ON EAST LAKE AVENUE.
11:56:38 HERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS.
11:56:41 NORTH ELEVATION.
11:56:42 THIS WOULD BE THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
11:56:43 AND THE STRUCTURES THAT YOU SEE HERE ARE THE SOLID WASTE
11:56:46 AREAS.
11:56:47 TRASH RECEPTACLES.
11:56:49 AND THEN HERE IS THE EAST ELEVATIONS.
11:56:52 THIS IS THE SITE ON EAST LAKE AVENUE CURRENTLY.
11:56:55 AND THEN THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND CHURCH SOUTH OF THE
11:56:57 SITE.
11:57:00 THERE'S TO THE EAST OF THE SITE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AND
11:57:03 THEN LAG EAST ON LAKE AVENUE.
11:57:06 THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE, SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:57:09 AND THEN A VIEW ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE LOOKING WEST ON
11:57:12 LAKE.
11:57:15 I DID ORIGINALLY PROVIDE A REVISION SHEET AND IF YOU
11:57:18 WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN ANY MOTION YOU MAKE TONIGHT.
11:57:21 THIS SHEET THAT IS SHOWN HERE HAS TWO ADDITIONS SO THE
11:57:24 REQUIRED REVISION SHEET.
11:57:25 WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THROUGH THIS PD REZONING
11:57:28 APPLICANTS DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REFINE THE SPECIFIED
11:57:31 USE.
11:57:33 AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY IS NOT FOUND IN OUR CODE
11:57:35 SO WHAT STAFF HAS TO DO IS WORK CLOSELY WITH THE
11:57:38 APPLICANT TO ENSURE THAT THE USE THAT THEY ARE DESCRIBING
11:57:41 IS DEFINED APPROPRIATELY FOR THIS PD REZONING.
11:57:45 AND IF YOU LOOK AT BULLETS, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS
11:57:51 COMPRISED OF FIVE INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES INTENDED FOR
11:57:54 MAXIMUM OF TWO OCCUPANTS EACH, INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES,
11:57:57 IN THIS INSTANCE SHALL BE DEFINED AS RESIDENTIAL
11:58:00 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS LOCATED ON A SINGLE
11:58:03 DWELLING LOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING HOUSING
11:58:05 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY'S CRITICAL POPULATION
11:58:07 INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MILITARY VETERANS,
11:58:12 MANIFEST -- OR CONTINUUM FOR CARE OF PERSONS IN NEED OF A
11:58:18 EXTRAORDINARY ENVIRONMENT AND POSITION OCCUPANTS FOR HOME
11:58:21 OWNERSHIP AND FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE.
11:58:23 SO THAT WOULD BE THE DEFINITION FOR THE INDEPENDENT
11:58:25 LIVING FACILITY THAT'S SHOWN ON THIS PD.
11:58:27 AND THEN THE SECOND BULLET POINT THAT I 2021 ADD BECAUSE
11:58:30 THIS WAS A REVISE TO THE REVISION SHEET IS FURTHER PD
11:58:34 APPROVAL TO MEET THE INTENDED USE AS DESCRIBED ABOVE.
11:58:36 THE PROPERTY JUST REMAIN UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP,
11:58:39 DWELLINGS SHALL NOT BE SOLD FOR INDEPENDENT OWNERSHIP.
11:58:42 AND THEN THE PAGE NEXT IS THE SECOND PAGE OF THE ORIGINAL
11:58:46 REVISION SHEET THAT I PREVIOUSLY SENT.
11:58:48 WITH THAT BEING SAID THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
11:58:50 COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND IT
11:58:53 INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
11:58:54 CODE.
11:58:56 PLEASE SEE THE FINDINGS OF FROM TRANSPORTATION FOR THE
11:59:00 REQUIRED PARKING WAIVER AN R AND PARKING LOCATED IN THE
11:59:02 FRONT YARD.
11:59:03 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE AND
11:59:07 APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, THERE ARE MINOR MODIFICATIONS
11:59:09 AS LISTED IN THE REVISED REVISION SHEET THAT MUST BE
11:59:13 COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
11:59:15 READING.
11:59:16 AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN ANY ORDINANCE.
11:59:19 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:59:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:59:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MR. DINGFELDER WAS FIRST.
11:59:27 I WILL GIVE DEFERENCE TO HIM.
11:59:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THEN
11:59:31 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:59:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IN REGARD TO THE URBAN DESIGN
11:59:39 OBJECTIONS, WAS THAT THEIR ONLY OBJECTION WAS THE PARKING
11:59:42 LOT IN THE FRONT YARD?
11:59:44 AND MY SECOND QUESTION, RYAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER ACCESS
11:59:48 TO THIS PROPERTY, IS THERE REAR ACCESS IN AN ALLEY 300
11:59:54 FEET BACK OR WHAT?
12:00:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: IT IS IN REGARDS TO THAT PARKING AREA,
12:00:59 YES, SIR.
12:00:00 AND THEN THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE NORTH SIDE TO THE REAR
12:00:02 OF THE PROPERTY.
12:00:03 THE ONLY ACCESS THEY HAVE IS YOU SEE ON SCREEN IS OFF
12:00:06 EAST LAKE AVENUE TO THIS FRONT PARKING AREA.
12:00:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE ONLY OBJECTION FROM DESIGN WAS
12:00:13 THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING AREA, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
12:00:19 SORT OF CREATES -- BUT THERE'S NO PLACE ELSE TO PUT IT
12:00:23 REALISTICALLY.
12:00:24 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
12:00:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.
12:00:27 AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS IN THE STAFF REPORTS
12:00:29 ANOTHER URBAN DESIGN COMMENT.
12:00:32 IT'S MORE OR LESS ADDITION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECONDING
12:00:35 BUT IT RELATES TO THE UNPAINTED OR UNFINISHED BUILDING
12:00:39 WALLS ARE PROHIBITED.
12:00:41 SO IT HAS TO HAVE ARCHITECTURAL FINISH FOR THE STRUCTURES
12:00:45 LIKE STUCCO, ET CETERA.
12:00:47 SO URBAN DESIGN IS REQUESTING THAT NOTE BE ADDED BETWEEN
12:00:50 FIRST AND SECOND READING BUT THE MAIN CONSISTENCY FINDING
12:00:54 AS YOU STATED AND I AM STATING HERE IS THAT PARKING.
12:00:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:01:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER ASKED ONE OF THOSE.
12:01:03 I KNOW EAST TAMPA HAS A CERTAIN OVERLAY DESIGN FOR THAT
12:01:06 DISTRICT.
12:01:11 IS IT MEETING ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS?
12:01:12 I KNOW THERE'S A FEW.
12:01:18 I DON'T THINK IT MEETS ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
12:01:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: AND TO FURTHER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I
12:01:26 SCROLLED UP TO THE PROPOSED WAIVERS AND WAIVER ONE AND
12:01:29 TWO COME FROM SECTION 27-240 FROM THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
12:01:34 CODE.
12:01:34 AS YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THEM BEING INCREASE THE FRONT YARD
12:01:37 SETBACK FROM THE REQUIRED 44 TO 95.
12:01:39 THAT'S LIKE A SOFT INCONSISTENCY JUST BECAUSE OF THE
12:01:43 UNIQUE SHAPE OF THE SITE BUT THE MAIN ISSUE I THINK WITH
12:01:46 THE URBAN DESIGN FOLKS IS THE ALLOWING OF THE DRIVEWAY IN
12:01:50 THE FRONT YARD AND THAT'S DIRECTLY FROM THAT EAST TAMPA
12:01:53 OVERLAY DESIGN CRITERIA.
12:01:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE INDEPENDENT, THAT COMES FROM THE
12:02:01 INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY.
12:02:02 WOULD YOU READ THAT AGAIN?
12:02:04 WOULD YOU READ AGAIN WHAT THEY ARE SAYING THAT'S GOING TO
12:02:07 BE?
12:02:09 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WILL READ IT VERY BAIT R I AM.
12:02:12 IT'S COMPRISED OF FIVE INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES FOR A
12:02:17 MAXIMUM TWO OCCUPANTS EACH, INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES IN
12:02:20 THIS INSTANCE SHALL BE DEFINED AS RESIDENTIAL
12:02:23 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS LOCATED ON A SINGLE
12:02:26 ZONING LOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING HOUSING
12:02:27 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY'S CRITICAL POPULATION,
12:02:31 INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MILITARY VETERANS,
12:02:35 MANIFESTATIONS WORLDWIDE, INC., WHICH IS THE APPLICANT
12:02:38 WILL PROVIDE A CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR THE PERSONS IN NEED
12:02:41 OF A EXTRAORDINARY ENVIRONMENTS AND THE POSITION
12:02:44 OCCUPANTS FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE.
12:02:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
12:02:52 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING LIKE FOR
12:02:55 ANY REHAB HOUSING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
12:02:58 STRICTLY VETERANS, AND --
12:03:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT.
12:03:04 WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE LIKE PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL
12:03:06 FACILITIES AND CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES, THOSE ARE
12:03:10 LICENSED BY THE STATE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC USES.
12:03:13 THIS APPLICANT CAME IN AND HAD THEIR OWN DEFINED USE, AND
12:03:17 THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH HIM, TO
12:03:19 FURTHER DEFINE THIS USE, THAT'S SPECIFIC JUST FOR THIS.
12:03:24 SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THIS IS NOT A USE THAT WOULD HAVE TO
12:03:27 BE LICENSED BY THE STATE BECAUSE YOU ARE A RESIDENTIAL
12:03:30 FACILITY, A GONG GATHER LIVING FACILITY, THERE ARE
12:03:33 CERTIFICATES LICENSES THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET TO DO THOSE
12:03:36 TYPE OF ACTIVITIES.
12:03:37 SO FOR THIS PURPOSE, THAT'S WHY STAFF WORKED VERY CLOSELY
12:03:40 WITH THE APPLICANT TO TRY TO DETERMINE AND GET VERY
12:03:45 ANALYTICAL WITH THIS DEFINED USE FOR THIS INDEPENDENT
12:03:48 LIVING FACILITY.
12:03:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW THE CHURCH DOES A LOT OF GOOD
12:03:52 WORK OVER THERE BUT TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL RESIDENTS IN
12:03:55 THE AREA.
12:03:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?
12:04:02 ALL RIGHT.
12:04:03 WE HAVE AN APPLICANT, I BELIEVE, IN PERSON ON THE SECOND
12:04:06 FLOOR.
12:04:14 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT THAT WOULD LIKE
12:04:15 TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
12:04:16 THANK YOU.
12:04:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE A MARK JONES?
12:04:26 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
12:04:27 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
12:04:29 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
12:04:30 >> YES, I DO.
12:04:35 >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU MAY BEGIN.
12:04:36 >> I'M DR. MARK JONES, FOUNDER OF MANIFESTATIONS
12:04:40 WORLDWIDE LOCATED AT 3102 EAST LAKE AVENUE.
12:04:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:04:49 THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT YOUR CASE, IF YOU
12:04:51 HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
12:04:52 IF NOT.
12:04:53 >> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL
12:04:56 MEMBERS, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR OUR ZONING REQUEST.
12:05:02 I WANT TO START BY SAYING LISTENING TO TONIGHT'S HEARING,
12:05:05 I REALIZE I NEED TO ADD YOU ALL TO MY PRAYER LIST.
12:05:08 [ LAUGHTER ]
12:05:10 THAT HAPPENS RIGHT AWAY.
12:05:13 MANIFESTATION WORLDWIDE HAS BEEN LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA
12:05:17 FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS, AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS
12:05:24 PART OF OUR CONTINUING EFFORTS TO ADD VALUE TO THE
12:05:28 QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CITIZENS IN EAST TAMPA.
12:05:33 SO THIS PROGRAM, WHICH WE ARE FOCUSING ON, IS GEARED
12:05:38 TOWARD PROVIDING THESE DETACHED INDEPENDENT LIVING
12:05:42 STRUCTURES, PARTICULARLY BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE VETERAN
12:05:46 POPULATION.
12:05:47 WE CURRENTLY RECEIVE A LOT OF CALLS FROM THE VETERANS
12:05:51 ADMINISTRATION, MIKE WARD AT THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION,
12:05:55 ASKING IF WE HAVE ANYPLACE FOR VETERANS THAT ARE TRYING
12:05:58 TO JUST GET BACK ON THEIR FEET.
12:06:00 SO ONE OF OUR UNIQUE PROGRAMS IS TO DO JUST THAT, HELP
12:06:05 VETERANS TO PREPARE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.
12:06:09 WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS ALREADY IN THE AREA PROVIDING
12:06:13 JOBS.
12:06:13 OUR CHURCH IS NOT JUST A CHURCH THAT'S THERE ON SUNDAY
12:06:17 BUT WE ARE THERE SEVEN DAYS A WEAK.
12:06:19 WE HAVE ABOUT 40 PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR US ON STAFF, ANOTHER
12:06:24 10 OR 11 PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR US AS CONTRACTORS, THROUGH
12:06:27 OUR SCHOOLS.
12:06:29 CURRENTLY, WE OPERATE 14 BUILDINGS IN EAST TAMPA, ALL
12:06:35 PART OF THE WORK THAT WE DO THERE.
12:06:37 SO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS PRIMARILY GEARED AGAIN
12:06:41 TOWARDS SERVING A PARTICULAR GROUP THAT WE JUST -- WE
12:06:45 BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR VETERANS,
12:06:48 AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP THEM, PARTICULARLY TO GAIN
12:06:52 INDEPENDENCE, HOME OWNERSHIP, AND OTHER SERVICES THAT
12:06:55 WILL HELP THEM AFTER ALL THAT THEY HAVE SACRIFICED FOR
12:07:00 US.
12:07:01 SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE PROJECT.
12:07:03 I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING THIS MATTER TONIGHT.
12:07:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:07:08 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:07:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, GOOD MORNING, PASTOR.
12:07:12 >> GOOD MORNING.
12:07:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS HESITANT WHEN I SAW WHAT IT WAS,
12:07:18 BUT THEN I SAW YOUR NAME, AND I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOUR
12:07:24 CONGREGATION DOES FOR THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
12:07:29 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING WE PUT THERE WOULD BE
12:07:33 VIABLE.
12:07:33 YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES OVER THERE.
12:07:34 I WOULD HAVE A HEADACHE LATER ON.
12:07:37 SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT KNOWING THAT I KNOW YOU AND YOU
12:07:44 WILL MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE DONE RIGHT AND IN ORDER,
12:07:47 AND ESPECIALLY IN HELPING VETERANS.
12:07:49 SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL
12:07:53 MONITOR IT WELL WITH THAT PROJECT.
12:07:57 SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT THIS EVENING BECAUSE I KNOW
12:08:01 THAT YOU WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS IN ORDER.
12:08:06 >> ABSOLUTELY.
12:08:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
12:08:08 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR --
12:08:15 IF I COULD JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WITH ALL REZONE
12:08:20 APPLICATION IT IS IDENTITY OF THE APPLICANT IS NOT A
12:08:22 FACTOR IN YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I MEAN NO DISRESPECT,
12:08:27 PASTOR.
12:08:30 THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL IS THE PROPOSED USE AND THE
12:08:32 APPROPRIATENESS OF THE USE, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO
12:08:35 WAIVERS.
12:08:36 I WOULD JUST CAUTION COUNCIL WHEN YOU ARE DELIBERATING
12:08:40 THAT THE OPERATOR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT IS NOT A FACTOR
12:08:43 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
12:08:45 THANK YOU.
12:08:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. WELLS.
12:08:49 YOU ARE CORRECT.
12:08:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE
12:08:51 SECOND FLOOR, ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS?
12:08:54 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE ARE IN A REGISTERED SPEAKERS TO
12:08:56 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
12:08:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS NOBODY DOWN
12:08:59 THERE.
12:09:00 CORRECT?
12:09:01 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: CORRECT.
12:09:03 >> EVERYBODY LEFT YESTERDAY.
12:09:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:09:08 SECOND BY CARLSON.
12:09:11 ALL RIGHT.
12:09:12 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS?
12:09:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-104, ORDINANCE BEING
12:09:23 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
12:09:27 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
12:09:29 3110 EAST LAKE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
12:09:33 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
12:09:35 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
12:09:38 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY,
12:09:41 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:09:47 BASED ON THE STAFF REPORTS, COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE
12:09:50 GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
12:09:53 AND HOUSING, LU POLICY 21.2, DENSITY PLAN FOR ALLOWABLE
12:10:05 RU 20 FLU, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN
12:10:09 PROMOTES OR ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE
12:10:13 AND COMPATIBILITY TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:10:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:10:18 GUDES, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:10:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:10:21 >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY BEFORE THE VOTE JUST FOR THE
12:10:25 RECORD, JUST -- DOES THE MOTION INCLUDE THE REVISED
12:10:30 REVISION SHEET?
12:10:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE REVISION SHEET.
12:10:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH
12:10:35 THE REVISION SHEET, SECONDED BY CARLSON.
12:10:38 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:10:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:10:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:10:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:10:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:10:47 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
12:10:48 JUST KIDDING, YES.
12:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:10:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT
12:10:55 VOTE.
12:10:56 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th
12:10:59 AT 9:30 A.M.
12:11:00 >> I KNOW WHO NOT TO PRAY FOR.
12:11:08 [ LAUGHTER ]
12:11:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PASTOR, ON YOUR NEXT PROJECT MAKE IT
12:11:16 SEVEN OF THESE INDIVIDUAL UNITS AND WE EACH HAVE ONE.
12:11:19 [ LAUGHTER ]
12:11:23 >> I'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND.
12:11:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.
12:11:27 THE LAST ONE TONIGHT [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:11:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN'T HEAR YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:11:34 >> WE GO TO THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
12:11:37 MR. MANASSE.
12:11:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZ 21-01 IS 1720 WEST CARMEN STREET AND
12:11:49 1701 WEST GRAPE STREET, FROM RS-50 AND PD TO PD RETAIL
12:11:54 SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH
12:11:57 A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO 27-140 OF THE
12:12:00 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY FROM 1.0
12:12:03 TO 1.68 F.A.R.
12:12:06 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT
12:12:08 AND PLEASE RETURN TO ME.
12:12:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
12:12:14 YOU SHOULD SEE MY SCREEN ANY MOMENT NOW FOR REZ 202nd
12:12:18 1-01.
12:12:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
12:12:20 GO AHEAD.
12:12:20 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
12:12:24 PLANNING DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE WEST TAMPA URBAN
12:12:26 VILLAGE.
12:12:28 IT'S OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
12:12:30 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
12:12:32 IT'S A MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED MULTIFAMILY
12:12:35 RESIDENTIAL, A FEW REMAINING INDUSTRIAL USES NORTH OF
12:12:40 KENNEDY, AND WEST OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
12:12:43 SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP KIND OF REFLECTS THAT
12:12:46 DIVERSITY OF USES IN THE AREA, ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF
12:12:50 THE SITE, IT'S COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 AND THEN THERE'S
12:12:55 ONE SMALL PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL 10 ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
12:13:00 10 IS THAT ORANGE COLOR TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE
12:13:03 SUBJECT SITE.
12:13:05 THERE'S COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
12:13:07 THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MUCH REMAINING GENERAL MIXED USE 24
12:13:11 WHICH THAT LIGHTER PURPLE COLOR.
12:13:14 SO THE APPLICANT HAS ON THE PD PROVIDED ALIGN TO
12:13:21 DELINEATE THE DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND THERE'S
12:13:24 NOTHING IN THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 LAND USE DESIGNATION
12:13:27 THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT DESIGNATION.
12:13:29 SO THAT PART IS CONSISTENT.
12:13:35 AS WE NOTICE, THIS AREA HAS EXPERIENCED RESURGENT GROWTH
12:13:39 IN THE LAST DECADE.
12:13:40 THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT
12:13:46 PATTERN, WE JUST FIND IT IS CONSISTENT, THAT IT PROVIDES
12:13:48 A MIX OF USES, IT'S SUPPORTING PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES, IT
12:13:52 WILL ENHANCE THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE PEDESTRIAN
12:13:55 URBAN NATURE, THE ENTRYWAYS ARE CONSISTENT, THE
12:14:00 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT FACE THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY --
12:14:01 THAT'S A VERY GOOD DESIGN -- AND IMPORTANT IN THE PLAN.
12:14:04 SO OVERALL IT SUPPORTS PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY AND FURTHERS
12:14:07 MIXED USE, AND URBAN VILLAGE POLICIES OF THE
12:14:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:14:11 IT IS ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT
12:14:14 PATTERN, REDEVELOPMENT GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE URBAN
12:14:17 VILLAGE.
12:14:20 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:14:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
12:14:23 HEARING NONE, MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD.
12:14:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: AND I AM SHARE MY SCREEN.
12:14:29 ITEM NUMBER 10 IS FILE REZ 21-01.
12:14:32 THE CURRENT ZONING RS-50 AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RS-50
12:14:37 SINGLE-FAMILY, AND THEN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALREADY
12:14:39 BEING APPROVED IS FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, AND RETAIL
12:14:42 SALES CONVENIENCE GOODS.
12:14:43 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO CONVERT ALL TO PD
12:14:47 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND
12:14:49 RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS.
12:14:51 THE WAIVERS 1 UP THERE 5 ARE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THROUGH
12:14:55 FILE 1879.
12:14:56 THERE IS ONE NEW WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED AND I DID MAKE A
12:14:59 MODIFICATION TO THAT WAIVER AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE
12:15:02 APPLICANT, SO THERE'S A TYPO IN MY STAFF REPORT.
12:15:05 IT'S THE SECTION 27-285 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF
12:15:10 MULTIPLE FAMILY GREEN SPACE FROM 79,100 SQUARE FEET TO
12:15:14 27,234 SQUARE FEET FOR FEE IN LIEU AT TIME OF PERMITTING
12:15:23 TO BE MODIFIED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD
12:15:26 THIS BE APPROVED AT FIRST READING HERE.
12:15:29 THE PETITIONER IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND IT
12:15:33 IS CURRENTLY RS-50, AND THAT FILE THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED
12:15:36 IN PD FILE REZ 1879 TO CONSTRUCT 226 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING
12:15:42 UNITS AND 1100 SQUARE FEET OF CONVENIENCE GOODS, RETAIL
12:15:46 SALES, IN A 373,979 SQUARE FEET 4-STORY BUILDING WITH
12:15:51 ATTACHED PARKING GARAGE.
12:15:52 THE 2.89 ACRE PROPERTY ENCOMPASSES A BLOCK BOUNDED BY
12:15:54 WEST CARMEN STREET TO THE NORTH, NORTH ROME AVENUE TO THE
12:15:59 EAST, WEST GRAY STREET TO THE SOUTH AND NORTH FREMONT
12:16:02 AVENUE TO THE WEST.
12:16:03 THIS REQUEST IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE SAME USE CURRENTLY
12:16:06 APPROVED IN FILE REZ 1879.
12:16:09 THE 2018 REZONING INCLUDES THE MAJORITY OF RS-50.
12:16:16 SINCE THAT TIME OF THE 2018 APPROVAL THE APPLICANT
12:16:19 OBTAINED THE PARCEL AND REQUESTS TO REZONE THE ENTIRE
12:16:23 BLOCK UNDER THAT ONE PD ZONING.
12:16:25 THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY WAREHOUSING AND OFFICE USES
12:16:28 TOTAL EAST AND NORTH.
12:16:29 THE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE NORTH AND
12:16:32 WEST IN RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
12:16:36 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.
12:16:38 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
12:16:41 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS ARE NORTH 5 FEET TO THE
12:16:44 GARAGE AND 10 FEET TO THE MAIN BUILDING, SOUTH 10 FEET,
12:16:47 EAST 10 FEET, WEST 10 FEET.
12:16:49 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 55 FEET OR FOUR STORIES.
12:16:53 BASED ON THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS/BEDROOMS,
12:16:58 A TOTAL OF 410 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 33848 ARE
12:17:02 BEING PROVIDED.
12:17:03 THE 15% PARKING REDUCTION WAIVER WAS GRANTED BY CITY
12:17:06 COUNCIL IN THE 2018 APPROVAL.
12:17:08 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PARKING GARAGE IS PROPOSED ON
12:17:11 WEST GRAY STREET.
12:17:13 FAULT LAND USE DESIGNATION COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 WHICH
12:17:16 ALLOWS FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO OF WITH UP TO 2.0 PLANNED
12:17:21 DEVELOPMENT WITH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INCLUDING THE
12:17:24 PROVISIONS OF BONUS CRITERIA PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-140.
12:17:28 AND CORRECTION TO THE STAFF REPORT, I DID HAVE AFTER THAT
12:17:31 SENTENCE THE PROJECT FOR INTENSITY WHICH IT DOESN'T.
12:17:35 THE PROJECT IS DECREASING F.A.R. FROM 1.76 TO 1.68.
12:17:42 LAND BUT NOT THE ENTITLEMENTS.
12:17:43 PURSUANT TO 27-140, THE PROPOSED F.A.R. OF 1.68 AND THE
12:17:47 CMU-35 EQUAL PAYMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,015,102.27.
12:17:55 AND ASSOCIATED AGREEMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR
12:17:57 CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL.
12:18:00 THE SITE AS LOCATED AS YOU CAN SEE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
12:18:05 THERE ARE NO LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS WITHIN
12:18:08 A THOUSAND FEET.
12:18:09 JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN, YOU SEE THIS OUTLINE OF YELLOW.
12:18:13 THAT WAS THE ONE PARCEL THAT WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL 2018
12:18:16 REZONING, SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING ENCOMPASSED NOW.
12:18:21 ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF TO FURTHER EXPLAIN THE
12:18:24 ENTITLEMENT SITUATION IS THAT SAME PARCEL.
12:18:26 SO IT'S GREEN SPACE.
12:18:27 THEY ARE ADDING THEIR GREEN SPACE.
12:18:29 THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL UNITS FROM THE 2018 APPROVAL.
12:18:32 SO THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND WITH
12:18:36 THE EXCEPTION OF THIS NEW LOT THAT IS BEING ADDED TO THIS
12:18:40 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
12:18:42 AND THEN THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT I
12:18:45 WILL GO THROUGH.
12:18:50 AND THEN THE PHOTOS, ON THE LEFT SIDE LOOKING EAST ON
12:18:53 GRAY STREET, MIDDLE PHOTO SOUTH OF SIDE ON GRAY, AND THEN
12:18:58 TO THE RIGHT SOUTHWEST ON GRAY STREET.
12:19:01 LEFT PHOTO IS WEST OF THE SITE, NORTHWEST CORNER OF GRAY
12:19:05 AND FREMONT.
12:19:06 AND THE RIGHT PHOTO IS WEST OF THE SITE WHICH IS THE
12:19:08 SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CARMEN AND FREMONT.
12:19:12 AND THEN THE LEFT PHOTO OH IS LOOKING EAST ON CARMEN AND
12:19:15 THE CENTER PHOTO IS LOOKING WEST ON CARMEN AND THEN THE
12:19:18 RIGHT PHOTO IS WEST END OF THE SITE.
12:19:22 YOU CAN SEE CONSTRUCTION HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKING PLACE
12:19:25 FROM THAT 2018 APPROVAL.
12:19:27 TO LEFT NORTH OF SITE, TO THE RIGHT, NORTH SIDE OF CARMEN
12:19:31 AND FREMONT.
12:19:32 SINGLE-FAMILY.
12:19:32 AND THEN NORTHEAST OF THE SITE MULTIFAMILY, AND NORTHWEST
12:19:36 OF THE SITE, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CARMEN AND FREMONT.
12:19:40 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
12:19:43 THE APPLICATION AND WE DO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
12:19:45 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, SHOULD IT THE
12:19:48 PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE WAIVERS AS I HAD
12:19:50 FADE IN THE REPORT AND APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, THERE
12:19:52 ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TORT SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST
12:19:57 AND SECOND READING AS SHOWN ON THE REVISION AND ANY
12:20:00 MOTION TO INCLUDE THIS, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT REVISION
12:20:03 SHEET IN YOUR MOTION.
12:20:04 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
12:20:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
12:20:09 TIME?
12:20:11 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
12:20:12 I SEE ANTHONY EVERETT ON THE LINE.
12:20:15 WE DID NOT SWEAR HIM IN.
12:20:17 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
12:20:18 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
12:20:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM
12:20:29 REGISTERED.
12:20:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
12:20:31 MR. MECHANIK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.
12:20:33 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR.
12:20:35 MR. CHAIRMAN, DAVID MECHANIK, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
12:20:38 APPLICANT.
12:20:39 I HAVE WITH ME ANTHONY EVERETT, THE OWNER DEVELOPER OF
12:20:43 THE PROJECT.
12:20:47 ANTHONY EVERETT.
12:20:49 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
12:21:05 NOT YET.
12:21:05 THERE YOU GO.
12:21:06 GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:21:09 >>DAVID MECHANIK: OKAY.
12:21:13 ESPECIALLY AT THIS LATE HOUR, I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
12:21:18 THIS SHOULD BE A FAIRLY SIMPLE APPROVAL, AS THE ONLY
12:21:22 CHANGE WE ARE REQUESTING IS THE ADDITION OF A
12:21:28 SINGLE-FAMILY LOT WHICH APPEARS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER
12:21:35 OR THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE SITE PLAN WHICH YOU
12:21:38 SEE IN THE MEDIUM DARK GREEN SHADING.
12:21:44 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT
12:21:48 ENTITLEMENTS.
12:21:49 WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE BUILDINGS WHATSOEVER.
12:21:53 AND IN FACT THE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND IS
12:21:58 ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE ON MAY 1st OF THIS YEAR.
12:22:03 SO, AGAIN, ALL WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO ADD
12:22:10 APPROXIMATELY 4500 SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE TO THE
12:22:14 PROJECT.
12:22:15 IT CHANGES A LOT OF THE NUMBERS IN THE SITE PLAN.
12:22:20 FOR EXAMPLE, THE GREEN SPACE WAIVER IS ACTUALLY BEING
12:22:25 REDUCED BY 4400 FEET.
12:22:28 THAT IS PROVIDING 4400 MORE SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE
12:22:35 THAN WE DID UNDER THE PRAYER APPROVAL.
12:22:40 AND SO WE ARE SIMPLY ADDING THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOT TO THE
12:22:51 DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING GREEN AND OPEN
12:22:55 SPACE FOR THE PROJECT.
12:22:57 AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:22:59 >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?
12:23:04 ALL RIGHT.
12:23:04 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THERE THAT IS HERE TO
12:23:07 SPEAK?
12:23:13 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
12:23:14 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
12:23:17 >>> AND THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED.
12:23:19 ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE?
12:23:24 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:23:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:23:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:23:30 ANY OPPOSED?
12:23:31 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS?
12:23:35 AND THERE'S ALSO THE RESOLUTION.
12:23:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
12:23:40 FILE REZ --
12:23:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
12:23:44 >>CATE WELLS: IF THIS IS APPROVED ON FIRST READING THIS
12:23:55 EVENING.
12:23:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:23:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.
12:24:00 OKAY.
12:24:01 FILE REZ 21-01.
12:24:13 APPLICATION -- GOODNESS ME, I AM SORRY.
12:24:21 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
12:24:25 1701 WEST GRAY STREET AND 1720 WEST CARMEN STREET FROM
12:24:28 RS-50 TO PD, AND, EXCUSE ME, TO PD, RETAIL SALES,
12:24:37 CONVENIENCE GOODS, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, WITH BONUS
12:24:40 PROVISION AGREEMENT, PURSUANT TO 27-140 OF THE LAND
12:24:45 DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY FROM 1.0 TO
12:24:52 1.68 F.A.R.
12:24:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
12:24:59 MR. CITRO, I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY IS BELOW
12:25:05 THAT,.
12:25:11 WERE YOU READING THE F.A.R. TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY?
12:25:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:25:17 IT WAS CORRECT.
12:25:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE ENTRANCE
12:25:25 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY?
12:25:30 ITEM NUMBER 10?
12:25:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:25:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED.
12:25:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE TITLE
12:25:39 RELATING TO THE F.A.R.
12:25:44 >>DAVID MECHANIK: HE IS READING THE BONUS RESOLUTION.
12:25:46 >>CATE WELLS: THAT RESOLUTION DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT IN
12:25:48 THE TITLE EITHER.
12:25:49 I THINK HE NEEDS TO READ JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH ON THE
12:25:51 AGENDA DESCRIBING THE NATURE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:25:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:25:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO.
12:25:59 I'M SORRY.
12:26:00 I KNOW IT'S LATE.
12:26:01 YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FORCE FIR
12:26:04 READING CONSIDERATION UNDER ITEM NUMBER 10?
12:26:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, I DON'T HAVE IT THERE.
12:26:10 SORRY.
12:26:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, HE'S GOT A DIFFERENT THING.
12:26:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEVER MIND.
12:26:20 I HAVE GOT IT.
12:26:21 I'LL GET IT.
12:26:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:22 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED ARE IF FIRST READING
12:26:25 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
12:26:27 GENERAL VICINITY OF 1701 WEST GRAPE STREET AND 1720 WEST
12:26:30 CARMEN STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
12:26:32 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
12:26:35 CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
12:26:39 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- EXCUSE ME, AND PD PLANNED
12:26:43 DEVELOPMENT, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
12:26:46 MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SEAMS, CONVENIENCE GADS, PROVIDING AN
12:26:49 EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:26:50 AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF WITH
12:26:53 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, THE DEVELOPMENT IS AS
12:26:56 CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH
12:26:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PROPOSED, THE INCLUSION OF THE
12:27:03 PARCEL OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1720 WEST CARMEN STREET
12:27:07 ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT WHICH PROMOTES THE MIXED USE
12:27:09 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND IN-FILL ON UNDERUTILIZED UL
12:27:15 POLICY 2.1.2 AND THE 1.68 F.A.R., THE INCREASE OF THE
12:27:24 INTENSITY OF THE ABOVE 1.0 F.A.R. IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS
12:27:29 LOCATION.
12:27:30 THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVERS WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY
12:27:32 INTERFERE OR INJURY THE RIGHTS OF THOSE PROPERTIES OF
12:27:37 OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS,
12:27:40 AND I AM ALSO INCLUDING THE RESOLUTION.
12:27:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE DON'T INCLUDE THE RESOLUTION.
12:27:46 THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AT THE SECOND READING.
12:27:48 BUT IS THERE A REVISION SHEET?
12:27:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT THERE IS A REVISION SHEET
12:27:53 ASSOCIATED.
12:27:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:27:54 IT IS LATE.
12:27:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:27:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:27:58 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:27:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:28:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:28:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:28:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:28:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:28:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:28:10 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT
12:28:13 VOTE.
12:28:13 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th
12:28:16 AT 9:30 A.M.
12:28:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEW BUSINESS.
12:28:21 COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
12:28:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, I HAVE GOT A COUPLE, MR. CHAIR, IF I
12:28:26 MAY REALLY FAST.
12:28:27 FIRST, I MOVE -- YOU ALL MAY HAVE READ IN THE "TAMPA BAY
12:28:31 TIMES" THAT A YOUNG MAN NAMED JOSH FELDER, A YOUNG MAN
12:28:34 FROM BEST BUDDIES WITH AUTISM WHO DANCED IN THE SUPER
12:28:41 BOWL AND I WANTED TO GIVE HIM A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
12:28:44 COMMENDATION.
12:28:45 I KNOW JOSH.
12:28:46 HE'S A HECK OF A GREAT GUY AND JUST AWESOME.
12:28:49 YOU KNOW WHAT?
12:28:51 FEBRUARY 25th, 2021 WORKSHOP VIRTUALLY, AT 9 A.M. IF
12:28:56 WE MAY.
12:28:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS THE GENTLEMAN THAT HIS MOM
12:28:59 SAW HIM ON TV AND RECOGNIZED HIM BY HIS EYES?
12:29:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW.
12:29:06 I DON'T KNOW.
12:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAW HIS EYES, AND --
12:29:10 >>BILL CARLSON: HE WAS WEARING A MASK.
12:29:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
12:29:14 VIERA.
12:29:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:29:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:18 AYE.
12:29:19 GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:29:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THE NEXT ONE, I REFERENCED IT THIS
12:29:24 MORNING, I MOTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY STAFF --
12:29:27 SORRY, CHIEF OF STAFF -- TIRED -- TO REPORT BACK TO TAMPA
12:29:30 CITY COUNCIL AT OUR NEXT REGULAR SESSION, OR WHENEVER TO
12:29:40 BE THERE, TO NOBODY HOW TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH
12:29:49 [~DISTORTION~] FOR TRANSPORTATION, ALMOST $60 MILLION.
12:29:56 MY UNDERSTANDING THE DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD IS
12:29:59 SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD OPINE ON, AND
12:30:02 WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OR CITY STAFF TALK ABOUT
12:30:05 WHAT PROJECTS THESE FUNDS RESPECTIVELY WOULD BE UTILIZED
12:30:10 FOR.
12:30:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:30:13 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:30:14 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:30:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:30:17 YAY.
12:30:18 ANY OPPOSED?
12:30:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE, JUST WANT TO
12:30:22 MAKE SURE THE CLERK HAS GOTTEN IT.
12:30:24 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN VIERA THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING ALL
12:30:27 FOR TRANSPORTATION BUT YOUR TRANSMISSION WAS GARBLED.
12:30:30 IS THAT CORRECT?
12:30:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:30:34 AND THEN THAT'S IT.
12:30:36 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IRONIC.
12:30:38 I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LENGTH OF MEETINGS AND SOME
12:30:41 IDEAS THAT I HAD, BUT IT'S TOO DAMN LATE.
12:30:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:30:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEW
12:30:47 BUSINESS, SIR?
12:30:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER A COUPLE
12:30:53 MONTHS AGO I TRIED TO BRING UP THAT TRANSPORTATION
12:30:56 QUESTION, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY JUMPED IN AND SHUT ME
12:30:59 DOWN REAL QUICK.
12:31:00 SO I WON'T DO IT AFTER MIDNIGHT.
12:31:05 I'M ALL FOR THAT.
12:31:09 BUT I WANTED TO BRING UP DURING CITY COUNCIL AS RELATED
12:31:12 TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING, WAS IN REGARD
12:31:17 TO TRYING TO IDENTIFY A PARK IN CHANNELSIDE TO NAME AFTER
12:31:22 OUR FORMER COUNCILWOMAN LINDA SAUL-SENA.
12:31:25 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THAT CITY
12:31:30 STAFF MEET AND WORK WITH THE CRA STAFF TO IDENTIFY AN
12:31:34 APPROPRIATE PARK IN CHANNELSIDE TO NAME AFTER LINDA
12:31:38 SAUL-SENA, AND COME BACK TO US WITH A REPORT IN 60 DAYS.
12:31:44 WHEN WOULD THAT BE, MR. SHELBY?
12:31:46 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL?
12:31:47 MORNING MEETING.
12:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHECK FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL.
12:31:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE END OF APRIL?
12:31:59 THE 15th OF APRIL.
12:32:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 15th OF APRIL DURING STAFF
12:32:05 REPORTS.
12:32:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
12:32:07 DINGFELDER.
12:32:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:32:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:10 ANY OPPOSED?
12:32:11 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:32:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:32:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD NIGHT.
12:32:17 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:32:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
12:32:22 NUMBER ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE
12:32:25 MARSHAL REED, AND ALL THE CREW MEMBERS THAT WERE ON FIRE
12:32:30 BOAT NUMBER 1, WHICH IS THE PATRIOT, CITY OF TAMPA FIRE
12:32:35 BOAT, FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE ON BOARD DURING THE BUCS
12:32:38 PARADE.
12:32:40 IT IS JUST -- WAS JUST AN AMAZING TRIP.
12:32:44 SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE A MOTION TO
12:32:48 PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS, TAMPA
12:32:53 BAY BUCCANEERS.
12:32:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNEW IT WAS COMING.
12:32:56 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO --
12:33:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SPREAD OUT ACROSS
12:33:03 THE COUNTRY, TO RIGHTFULLY SO, FAMILIES BEING IN LOCK
12:33:08 DOWN SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT ABOUT TWO MONTHS OUT.
12:33:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL MAKE IT TO BE DETERMINED ONCE
12:33:13 WE COORDINATE WITH THEM.
12:33:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOUND GOOD.
12:33:16 I MAKE THAT MOTION.
12:33:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:33:19 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:33:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:33:21 AYE.
12:33:22 ANY OPPOSED?
12:33:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MORE, MR. CHAIR.
12:33:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:33:25 AND THIS COMES FROM THE LOVELY LADIES, AA LADIES, ONE OF
12:33:29 WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE WOMAN WHO GAVE BIRTH TO ME, I
12:33:33 MOVE TO PROVIDE A COMMENDATION TO THE PARKS AND
12:33:35 RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR GREAT EFFORTS TO PROMOTE
12:33:39 SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA DURING THE
12:33:43 COVID PANDEMIC, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROVIDING
12:33:47 COVID-19 VACCINATIONS FOR SENIORS OVER 65 ENROLLED IN A
12:33:52 RECREATIONAL PROGRAM.
12:33:55 THIS EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TOOK PLACE SATURDAY, JANUARY
12:33:58 16th, AND THE SECOND ROUND OF VACCINATIONS CAME ON
12:34:01 FEBRUARY 6th, AT THE DAVID BARKSDALE ACTIVE OLDER
12:34:08 ADULT CENTER.
12:34:09 AND IF I MAY READ OUT THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
12:34:12 RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
12:34:14 LISA BRYANT, JOHN GRIMSLEY, JEFF VANORDEN, ROBERT DELL,
12:34:24 LOLITA LOVETT, ANNETTE LAMBRELL, SHAMIKA, JEAN PHILIP,
12:34:34 JOHN WILES, JOANNA MANGIOTO, TYLER DAVIS, HANLEY BOLIKI,
12:34:43 AND I AM SORRY IF I AM PRONOUNCING SOME PEOPLE'S NAMES,
12:34:46 BUT MORE ESPECIALLY THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, CHARLIE BRANLEY
12:34:49 AND MR. JOHN ALLEN.
12:34:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:34:53 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:34:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:34:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:35:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU MISSED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
12:35:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO IF WE MISSED ANYBODY --
12:35:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
12:35:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, THAT CLEANS ME OUT.
12:35:14 GOOD MEETING TONIGHT.
12:35:15 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
12:35:18 I APOLOGIZE.
12:35:20 FOR COUNCILMAN CITRO'S MOTION FOR THE BUCS TO PUT THIS IN
12:35:25 SUNSHINE, WE ALL RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM THE DAUGHTER OF
12:35:29 A GENTLEMAN WHO DIED OF CANCER, APPARENTLY A BIG BUCS
12:35:33 FAN.
12:35:34 SO IF WE CAN, COUNCILMAN CITRO, I WILL HAVE MY AIDE WORK
12:35:39 WITH YOURS ON SEEING IF THE FAMILY -- [AUDIO DISTORTION]
12:35:44 GO ON THE BOAT, AND OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFICULT, BUT MAYBE
12:35:49 WE CAN HAVE THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, AND MAYBE THAT WILL BE A
12:35:52 GOOD THING.
12:35:53 JUST THAT.
12:35:54 THANK YOU.
12:35:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:35:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
12:35:59 JUST ONE THING.
12:36:01 I KNOW LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT THE STAFFORD MEMORIAL
12:36:06 AWARD AND APPARENTLY A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION, BUT I
12:36:11 WOULD LIKE A COMMENDATION TO MS. IDA WALKER TO BE VIRTUAL
12:36:14 OR DOWNSTAIRS FOR A COMMENDATION ON MARCH 4th FOR THE
12:36:21 STAFFORD AWARD.
12:36:23 WE HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON.
12:36:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CEREMONY, YES.
12:36:28 >> THAT COMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE TO THE GROUP AND THIS
12:36:32 COMMENDATION WILL BE TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
12:36:34 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:36:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:36:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:36:38 AYE.
12:36:38 ANYTHING ELSE?
12:36:40 MR. CARLSON?
12:36:41 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO
12:36:44 RECEIVE AND FILE MY CONFLICT FORM FROM LAST WEEK THAT I
12:36:48 HAVE GIVEN TO THE CLERK, PLEASE.
12:36:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:36:52 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, I GUESS FROM COUNCILMAN
12:36:55 CARLSON.
12:36:56 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:36:57 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:36:58 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:37:01 >>BILL CARLSON: THEN QUICKLY BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE WE
12:37:03 CAN'T TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, BUT I WILL MAKE THIS
12:37:09 REALLY SHORT SO WE DON'T END UP IN ALONG CONVERSATION
12:37:11 RIGHT NOW, BUT WE MADE A MOTION OR PASSED A MOTION LAST
12:37:14 WEEK FOR THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, AND AS I HAVE
12:37:19 LOOKED AT THAT MORE AND LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY I
12:37:25 REALLY THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOUTH OF GANDY.
12:37:28 SO I AM SENT MY FEEDBACK TO THE STAFF.
12:37:30 I MADE A SEPARATE MOTION TO FOCUS ON SOUTH OF GANDY.
12:37:34 THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MADE WAS
12:37:37 SUPPOSED TO BE SOUTH OF EUCLID AND ENDED UP BEING THE
12:37:41 WHOLE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
12:37:45 THE SOUTH OF GANDY PEOPLE REALLY WANTED SOMETHING SOUTH
12:37:48 OF GANDY, AND I THINK THE REST OF THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT
12:37:50 ANYTHING.
12:37:50 SO WE WILL LEAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER DAY BUT I WANT TO THROW
12:37:53 IT OUT THERE.
12:37:53 THE SECOND THING IS, I HAVE BEEN GETTING AN UNUSUAL
12:37:56 NUMBER OF CALLS IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO ABOUT WEIRD WATER
12:37:59 BILLS.
12:38:02 ONE OF THEM WAS YOLIE.
12:38:05 THEY WERE GETTING -- PEOPLE GETTING THESE INITIALLY LARGE
12:38:08 LIKE TWO OR THREE TIMES SIZE WATER BILLS.
12:38:11 AND IF IT'S ONE PERSON, IT COULD BE AN ANOMALY.
12:38:15 BUT I AM HEARING SEVERAL OF THEM.
12:38:17 AND SO IF YOU ALL SEE A PATTERN OF IT, MAYBE WE SHOULD
12:38:21 CONTACT THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND ASK THEM IF THERE'S
12:38:23 ANYTHING WEIRD GOING ON WITH THEIR SYSTEM.
12:38:25 THAT'S ALL.
12:38:26 THANK YOU, SIR.
12:38:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:38:28 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
12:38:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
12:38:31 I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. CARLSON'S COMMENT IN
12:38:34 REGARD TO THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM AND THE SOUTH OF GANDY
12:38:40 ISSUE.
12:38:41 IT'S FUNNY, BILL, BY COINCIDENCE I SENT AN E-MAIL TO SOME
12:38:46 OF THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, AND I
12:38:49 THINK LEGAL AS WELL, SUGGESTING THAT WE EXPLORE -- THAT
12:38:54 THEY EXPLORE WAYS TO NOT INCLUDE THE REST OF THE CITY IF
12:39:02 POSSIBLE.
12:39:03 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS SUGGESTING WAS
12:39:10 POSSIBILITY, BECAUSE ALSO RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION AND
12:39:16 EVACUATIONS, AND THAT SORT OF THING, WAS TO PERHAPS LOOK
12:39:20 AT TO EXCLUDE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN TRANSIT OR
12:39:24 TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
12:39:25 SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE FORMALIZE THE MOTION TO
12:39:31 AT LEAST REQUEST THAT STAFF WHILE THEY PULL THIS TOGETHER
12:39:37 THIS EVENING, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BIG DISCUSSION,
12:39:40 BUT AT LEAST SHE'S HERE TO HEAR IT, TO REQUEST THAT STAFF
12:39:45 LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR EXCLUDING THE REST OF THE CITY, AND
12:39:53 POSSIBLY ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS BEING AREAS THAT ARE ON
12:39:58 TRANSIT, TRANSIT CORRIDORS, LIKE DOWNTOWN, CHANNELSIDE,
12:40:02 KENNEDY, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW.
12:40:04 THOSE ARE MAJOR TRANSIT CORRIDORS WHERE EVACUATION MIGHT
12:40:07 BE LESS OF AN ISSUE.
12:40:10 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
12:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:40:13 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:40:14 AYE.
12:40:14 ANY OPPOSED?
12:40:16 ALL RIGHT.
12:40:18 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
12:40:20 MOTION TO RECEIVE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:40:22 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:40:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:40:25 AYE.
12:40:26 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:40:27 (MEETING ADJOURNED)
12:40:32
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