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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 2021
6:00 P.M.



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06:02:20 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

06:02:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

06:02:23 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO

06:02:25 ORDER.

06:02:26 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

06:02:29 >> VIERA?

06:02:29 GUDES?

06:02:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

06:02:30 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

06:02:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

06:02:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

06:02:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

06:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

06:02:40 ALL RIGHT.

06:02:42 MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.

06:02:47 >>THE CLERK: THERE IS A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.

06:02:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE TURN YOUR MIKE ON, SIR.

06:02:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS WORKING BEFORE.

06:02:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IT IS.

06:02:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WONDERFUL.

06:02:59 THANK YOU.

06:02:59 TONIGHT IS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 11 OF 2021.

06:03:05 WE ARE AT OLD CITY HALL AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

06:03:09 TONIGHT'S MEETING, THE LAND USE RELATED MEETING OF THE

06:03:13 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT IS BEING HELD DURING THE

06:03:15 COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY AND IS BEING CONDUCTED LIVE

06:03:18 WITH AN IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL

06:03:21 CHAMBERS.

06:03:21 HOWEVER, IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS,

06:03:25 MEMBERS BE OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE

06:03:28 VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY

06:03:31 FLORIDA STATUTES IN RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA

06:03:33 TECHNOLOGY, OR CMT.

06:03:35 TONIGHT'S MEETING IS HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE

06:03:38 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION

06:03:41 2020-225 AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020-490 AND AS MAY BE

06:03:48 AMENDED BY CITY COUNCIL.

06:03:50 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,

06:03:52 LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING TONIGHT ON CABLE TV,

06:03:55 SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND LIVE ON

06:03:59 THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.

06:04:08 NOW, THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY TONIGHT ARE




06:04:12 ABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE PREREGISTERED FOLLOWING

06:04:15 THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT

06:04:21 TAMPA.GOV/QUASI, WHICH IS ALSO AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY

06:04:27 COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.

06:04:32 NOW, THOSE WHO -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?

06:04:43 THOSE WHO ARE UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY, APPLICANTS

06:04:49 AND INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO APPEAR

06:04:51 IN PERSON USING VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGY BUT DON'T HAVE ACCESS

06:04:56 TO A DEVICE OR OTHERWISE UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE VIA CMT

06:04:59 MAY UTILIZE THE VIRTUAL FACILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO

06:05:03 THE PUBLIC, MADE AVAILABLE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THE

06:05:06 SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL.

06:05:09 PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING INSIDE

06:05:13 THE BUILDING ARE REQUIRED.

06:05:14 FINALLY, WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR E-MAIL HAVE

06:05:18 BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND ARE BEING INCLUDED

06:05:21 IN THE PERMANENT RECORD OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.

06:05:24 ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS TIMELY RECEIVED BY MAIL, E-MAIL, OR

06:05:28 VIA CMT ARE AFFORDED EQUAL PROTECTION -- EXCUSE ME, EQUAL

06:05:32 CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE IN

06:05:35 PERSON.

06:05:36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

06:05:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:05:39 ALL RIGHT.

06:05:42 WE DO HAVE A FOUR IN-PERSON QUORUM HERE.




06:05:47 IF ONE PERSON GETS UP, WE HAVE TO TAKE A RECESS, TAKE A

06:05:51 BREAK.

06:05:52 JUST RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

06:05:56 IF WE GET TO IT, WE GET TO IT.

06:05:58 ALL RIGHT.

06:05:59 WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS TONIGHT.

06:06:01 I KNOW ITEM NUMBER 1 THERE'S A WITHDRAWAL OF THIS

06:06:06 PETITION, IS THAT CORRECT?

06:06:10 >>THE CLERK: THAT IS CORRECT.

06:06:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT ALL OR

06:06:14 DO WE JUST MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW?

06:06:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS MINISTERIAL, COUNCIL.

06:06:20 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS THE ACTION REQUESTED BY THE

06:06:24 APPLICANT, AND THEREFORE I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS

06:06:29 ABSTAINED ON CONTINUANCES IN THE PAST.

06:06:33 THIS IS NOT A CONTINUANCE.

06:06:34 THIS IS A WITHDRAWAL, AND, THEREFORE, IT IS UNDER FLORIDA

06:06:42 CONFLICT LAW, IT IS NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

06:06:45 BECAUSE IT'S MINISTERIAL IN NATURE, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR

06:06:48 HIM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE UPON IT, CONSIDERING WE HAVE FOUR

06:06:51 MEMBERS OF THE QUORUM PRESENT IN THE ROOM.

06:06:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

06:06:53 BEFORE WE DO, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN ITEMS ONE

06:06:56 THROUGH TEN?

06:06:57 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN




06:06:59 MIRANDA.

06:07:00 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:07:01 AYE.

06:07:01 ALL RIGHT.

06:07:02 IF WE COULD JUST GET A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 1.

06:07:06 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

06:07:08 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

06:07:09 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:07:10 ANY OPPOSED?

06:07:11 ALL RIGHT.

06:07:14 WE HAVE REMOVED ITEM NUMBER 1.

06:07:17 ITEM NUMBER 7 CANNOT BE HEARD DUE TO A MISNOTICE.

06:07:23 CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 7?

06:07:26 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

06:07:29 CITRO.

06:07:29 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:07:31 ANY OPPOSED?

06:07:32 I BELIEVE THAT CLEARS UP THE AGENDA.

06:07:34 WE ARE DOWN TO 8 ITEMS THIS EVENING.

06:07:36 WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 2.

06:07:39 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS APPEARING IN PERSON AND THAT

06:07:42 THERE IS A TRANSLATOR.

06:07:44 JUST A HEADS UP THERE.

06:07:45 MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD.

06:07:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO MAKE




06:07:49 SURE THE RECORD IS COMPLETE, CAN WE HAVE BOTH THE

06:07:54 TRANSLATOR AND ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO NEEDS TO BE

06:07:57 SWORN IN, CAN WE DO THAT NOW.

06:08:00 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE

06:08:03 TRANSLATED SO THE PETITIONER UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS.

06:08:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

06:08:07 IF THE PETITIONER IS HERE AT THE KIOSK AND WE HAVE THE

06:08:13 TRANSLATOR, IF THEY'LL APPROACH THE KIOSK AND WE'LL SWEAR

06:08:17 YOU IN AT THIS TIME.

06:08:18 IF YOU ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN PERSON, PLEASE COME TO

06:08:20 THE KIOSK FOR ITEM 2.

06:08:28 >> THEY ARE STANDING AT THE KIOSK.

06:08:47 [OATH ADMINISTERED]

06:08:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHO IS TRANSLATING?

06:08:52 >> I AM, ELIZABETH ORTIZ.

06:08:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU SWEAR TO TRANSLATE FROM -- IS IT

06:08:59 GOING TO BE TRANSLATED FROM ENGLISH TO SPANISH OR FROM

06:09:01 SPANISH TO ENGLISH?

06:09:02 >> ENGLISH TO SPANISH.

06:09:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF HE SPEAKS, WILL YOU TRANSLATE BACK

06:09:07 FROM WHAT HE SAYS FROM SPANISH TO ENGLISH?

06:09:09 >> YES.

06:09:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ASK -- NOW, ARE YOU A FRIEND OR

06:09:21 RELATIVE OF THE APPLICANT?

06:09:22 >> NO.




06:09:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ASK THAT WHEN THE PRESENTATION IS

06:09:30 MADE, TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE TRANSLATOR WILL NEED

06:09:33 TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WHAT IS BEING SAID TO THE

06:09:39 APPLICANT.

06:09:40 SO PLEASE ALLOW FOR THAT.

06:09:43 IF YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO STOP, SEE IF YOU CAN EITHER

06:09:46 INTERRUPT OR RAISE YOUR HAND IF WE CAN CATCH THAT.

06:09:49 BUT THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AS ACCURATELY AS

06:09:52 POSSIBLE, HE UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THAT IF

06:09:57 HE IS TO TESTIFY, THEN TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE EXACTLY

06:10:01 OR ACCURATELY WHAT HE'S SAYING TO COUNCIL.

06:10:04 THANK YOU.

06:10:05 YOU CAN PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN.

06:10:06 I'M SO SORRY.

06:10:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

06:10:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:10:11 MR. MANASSE.

06:10:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

06:10:14 RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

06:10:16 ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE REZ 20-84.

06:10:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE RAISE HIS VOLUME?

06:10:24 >>RYAN MANASSE: ARE YOU NOT HEARING ME THAT WELL?

06:10:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

06:10:28 IF WE CAN INCREASE THE VOLUME MORE.

06:10:30 CAN YOU ALL HEAR HIM?




06:10:33 >> NO.

06:10:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE RAISE THE VOLUME FOR MR.

06:10:36 MANASSE?

06:10:40 >>RYAN MANASSE: TEST, TEST.

06:10:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.

06:10:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:10:42 GO AHEAD, SIR.

06:10:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD EVENING.

06:10:44 RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

06:10:46 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-84.

06:10:50 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2513 AND 2515 NORTH

06:10:55 57th STREET.

06:10:56 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST

06:10:59 FROM RM-16 TO IG.

06:11:01 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.

06:11:04 AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

06:11:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE TRANSLATE THAT, PLEASE?

06:11:12 >> I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE WAS SAYING.

06:11:14 HE WAS REALLY LOW.

06:11:16 HIS VOLUME WAS LOW.

06:11:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DIDN'T HEAR WHAT HE SAID.

06:11:19 >> NOT VERY CLEAR AT ALL.

06:11:20 NO.

06:11:30 >> GIVE ME A SECOND AND I'LL PUT MY HEADSET ON.

06:11:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?




06:11:49 >> YES.

06:11:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE IS THE TRANSLATOR?

06:11:55 >> I'M RIGHT HERE.

06:12:00 >>RYAN MANASSE: I'LL START OVER.

06:12:02 RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

06:12:03 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS FILE REZ 20-84.

06:12:06 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2513 AND 2515 NORTH

06:12:10 57th STREET.

06:12:11 THE REQUEST BEFORE IS YOU EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST AND

06:12:15 FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO IG, INDUSTRIAL

06:12:20 GENERAL AND I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND

06:12:23 THEN IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

06:12:29 >> YES.

06:12:32 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

06:12:34 I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN AND GET A CONFIRMATION THAT

06:12:37 EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME OKAY.

06:12:38 OKAY.

06:12:43 THIS IS ITEM 20-84, AS RYAN STATED.

06:12:48 IT IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.

06:12:52 THE SURROUNDING AREA IS CHARACTERIZED BY A MIXTURE OF

06:12:56 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, SOME COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL AS

06:13:00 SOME RESIDENTIAL.

06:13:02 THERE IS APPROXIMATELY A TEN-ACRE PARCEL TO THE WEST OF

06:13:08 THE SUBJECT SITE THAT IS BEING UTILIZED FOR INDUSTRIAL

06:13:11 USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.




06:13:13 THERE ARE SOME SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE EAST OF THE

06:13:18 SUBJECT SITE, BUT THOSE ARE -- THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF

06:13:22 THOSE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

06:13:24 SO THIS FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY IS SHOWN IN THE

06:13:32 SALMON-TYPE COLOR ON THE MAP.

06:13:34 THAT IS THE TRANSITIONAL USE 24 DESIGNATION.

06:13:37 THERE'S ALSO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH, NORTH OF EAST

06:13:40 COLUMBUS DRIVE, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE GRAY.

06:13:43 THE TRANSITIONAL USE 24 DESIGNATION IS A SPECIAL

06:13:51 DESIGNATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

06:13:53 IT ALLOWS FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF USES.

06:13:56 HOWEVER, THERE'S A CLEAR TREND IN THIS AREA THAT IT IS

06:14:00 TRANSITIONING TOWARDS MORE INDUSTRIAL USES AND THAT IS

06:14:03 VERY PRESENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA ALREADY.

06:14:06 SO WE DID FIND THAT THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE

06:14:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

06:14:11 THESE COMMERCIAL USES WILL BE APPROPRIATELY BUFFERED FROM

06:14:14 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PER POLICY 15.2.4 AND THEN RYAN

06:14:21 MANASSE WILL FURTHER DISCUSS THAT FOR THE CODE

06:14:25 REQUIREMENTS.

06:14:25 SO, AGAIN, WE'RE REMOVING THE POTENTIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL

06:14:28 ON THE SITE.

06:14:30 THIS IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE TREND OF THE AREA TOWARD

06:14:32 INDUSTRIAL USES.

06:14:33 SO GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF PARCELS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR




06:14:36 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO THE NORTH, WEST OF THE SUBJECT

06:14:39 SITE, THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE

06:14:42 WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE

06:14:44 UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

06:14:46 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

06:14:49 THANK YOU.

06:14:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME

06:14:51 FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

06:14:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA.

06:14:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

06:14:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT A QUESTION.

06:14:56 A COMMENT.

06:14:57 AS I LOOK AT THIS FROM NORTH 57th STREET, WHICH I GUESS

06:15:01 IS NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR, I CAN AGREE TO THAT TO THE

06:15:04 STATEMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE TO SOME DEGREE.

06:15:06 HOWEVER, FROM 58th STREET WEST -- 58th STREET TO THE

06:15:16 EAST.

06:15:17 THERE IS A PREPONDERANCE OF LARGE LOTS OF LAND THAT ARE

06:15:20 RM-16.

06:15:22 IF YOU LOOK DOWN TO THE CONE OF THAT -- CONTINUE GOING

06:15:25 EAST, THERE'S ANOTHER LARGE PIECE OF LAND THAT'S RM-16.

06:15:29 SO WHAT I'M ASKING MYSELF AND THE REST OF US, WHAT IS

06:15:33 GOING TO BE THE DESIGNATION?

06:15:35 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, BUT IF YOU LOOK AND

06:15:38 PUT THAT THEORY INTO EFFECT FROM 58th STREET EAST, NOT




06:15:44 FACTUAL ANYMORE, IN MY MIND.

06:15:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THEY CAN ALLOW THAT TO BE TRANSLATED.

06:15:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S NOT A QUESTION TO THE

06:15:56 PETITIONER.

06:15:56 IT'S A QUESTION TO THE STAFF.

06:16:02 >> I WAS ABLE TO TRANSLATE.

06:16:04 THANK YOU.

06:16:08 >> I WILL STATE THAT THERE IS POLICY LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN

06:16:10 THAT IS SEEKING TO -- WE LOOK AT EVERY REZONING REQUEST

06:16:15 IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION INDEPENDENTLY ON THE

06:16:19 SURROUNDING AREA.

06:16:21 ON NORTH 57th STREET, WE DO BELIEVE IT'S COMPATIBLE

06:16:24 GIVEN THE LARGE INDUSTRIAL PRESENCE TO THE WEST OF THE

06:16:27 SUBJECT SITE.

06:16:28 AS FAR AS A DEFINED PLAN FOR THE AREA TO THE EAST, WE

06:16:34 WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE THOSE AS THEY COME INTO US.

06:16:37 BUT I CERTAINLY HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR COMMENT ON

06:16:42 THAT.

06:16:42 I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

06:16:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

06:16:53 DO YOU NEED TO TRANSLATE THAT FOR THE GENTLEMAN OR NO?

06:16:58 >> [INAUDIBLE]

06:17:19 >> THANK YOU.

06:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

06:17:20 ALL RIGHT.




06:17:21 MS. MALONE, HAVE YOU FINISHED?

06:17:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, MY PRESENTATION IS COMPLETE.

06:17:26 THANK YOU.

06:17:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

06:17:28 THEN WE GO TO THE PETITIONER.

06:17:30 SIR?

06:17:30 OH, WAIT, MR. MANASSE, I'M SORRY.

06:17:34 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

06:17:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT, GO AHEAD.

06:17:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU.

06:17:43 ITEM NUMBER 2 AGAIN IS REZ 20-84 FOR 2513 AND 2515 NORTH

06:17:49 57th STREET.

06:17:50 AGAIN, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS RM-16 WHICH IS THE

06:17:53 CURRENT ZONING TO IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.

06:17:56 AGAIN, THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST, THEREFORE

06:17:59 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS PERMITTED AND ALL USES MUST BE

06:18:02 PERMITTED.

06:18:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.

06:18:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

06:18:09 IS THAT DINGFELDER?

06:18:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.

06:18:11 RYAN, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST YOU GO A LOT SLOWER.

06:18:15 UNLESS THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL TRANSLATOR, YOU KNOW, THE

06:18:19 PETITIONER NEEDS TO HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID.

06:18:22 EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO A LOT SLOWER.




06:18:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE.

06:18:33 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS THE CURRENT ZONING RM-16 AND

06:18:37 THE REQUEST IS ASKING TO GO TO IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.

06:18:41 THIS IS ALSO A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST, THEREFORE,

06:18:54 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS PERMITTED THROUGH THIS REZONING.

06:18:57 APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR ANY IG USE PER

06:19:11 CHAPTER 20.

06:19:20 SUCH USE BEING MANUFACTURING, PROCESSING, ASSEMBLY,

06:19:26 WAREHOUSING, AND RELATED USES.

06:19:29 THE SITE AS IS .39 ACRES.

06:19:36 AND DIMENSIONAL -- THE DIMENSIONS ARE 102 FEET BY 180

06:19:43 FEET.

06:19:44 AND IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.

06:19:47 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY USES TO THE

06:19:54 EAST AND SOUTH IN RM-16.

06:19:58 THERE'S A TRUCKING BUSINESS TO THE WEST, AND THAT WOULD

06:20:08 BE ACROSS NORTH 57th.

06:20:11 AND AN EMPLOYMENT OFFICE TO THE NORTH IN IG ZONING

06:20:18 DISTRICT.

06:20:19 THE AERIAL ON SCREEN IN THE RED, THE RED DASHED LINE

06:20:28 SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, AND THERE ARE NO HISTORIC

06:20:34 LANDMARKS NATIONAL OR LOCAL WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, AND

06:20:38 THAT'S THE RADIUS YOU SEE.

06:20:39 NOW, WE'LL GO TO SOME PHOTOS.

06:20:51 THE CURRENT SITE IN THE TOP LEFT.




06:20:53 THE NORTH OF THE SITE ON COLUMBUS TO THE TOP RIGHT.

06:20:56 ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE VIEW LOOKING NORTH ON 57th

06:21:02 STREET.

06:21:05 THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT JENNIFER WAS REFERRING TO

06:21:09 OF THE INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE WEST.

06:21:11 THE BOTTOM RIGHT PHOTO IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE.

06:21:18 THE LEFT PHOTO IS EAST OF THE SITE ON 58th STREET.

06:21:26 THE RIGHT PHOTO WEST OF THE SITE ON 57th.

06:21:33 WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND

06:21:39 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND

06:21:46 THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF

06:21:53 ORDINANCES.

06:21:54 AND MY STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

06:21:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

06:22:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. MANASSE, GOOD EVENING TO

06:22:05 YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

06:22:10 WHAT ARE THE USES BY RIGHT THAT THIS PETITIONER CAN USE

06:22:16 IN THIS PROPERTY?

06:22:17 JUST RATTLE OFF A FEW FOR MYSELF AND FOR THE PUBLIC.

06:22:21 >>RYAN MANASSE: SURE.

06:22:22 IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME PUT THE STAFF REPORT UP.

06:22:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

06:22:29 >>RYAN MANASSE: IN THE STAFF REPORT, I'VE ATTACHED ALL

06:22:31 THE IG USES.

06:22:34 THEY'LL BE IN YELLOW.




06:22:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DO HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, MR. MANASSE.

06:22:45 I WAS HOPING WE COULD EXPLAIN TO ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE

06:22:48 THAT MAY BE LOOKING -- BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THIS IS GOING

06:22:50 TO GO WITH THE PROPERTY.

06:22:51 IT'S NOT GOING TO GO WITH THE PETITIONER.

06:22:55 SO WE'VE HEARD THAT THIS AREA IS TRANSITIONING, BUT THERE

06:22:59 ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'M SEEING THAT THIS APPLICANT

06:23:03 CAN HAVE BY RIGHT THAT I'M NOT SURE WOULD FIT IN A

06:23:08 RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THIS IS ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

06:23:11 EXCUSE ME, LET ME REPHRASE IT.

06:23:12 THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS ABUTTING WILL BE

06:23:15 AFFECTED BY WHATEVER GOES HERE.

06:23:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE WITH DEVELOPMENT

06:23:21 COORDINATION.

06:23:21 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN CITRO, LET ME -- I'LL

06:23:25 JUST RATTLE OFF A FEW.

06:23:27 SO, FOR INSTANCE, SOME OF THE SCHOOLS ARE ALLOWED, AIR

06:23:33 CONDITIONED STORAGE.

06:23:34 WHAT I'M DOING, I'M GOING TOWARD THE LOWER END OF THE USE

06:23:37 CHART BECAUSE THOSE TEND TO BE THE MORE INTENSE USES.

06:23:42 AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THESE RELATED SPECIAL USES ARE

06:23:46 AUTHORIZED IN THERE, RESTAURANTS, CATERING SHOPS, CIGAR

06:23:55 FACTORIES, CORRECTIONAL FACILITY, DRY CLEANING PLANT, A

06:24:02 LARGE DRY-CLEANING PLANT, A SMALL.

06:24:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MANASSE, I JUST ASKED TO YOU RATTLE




06:24:11 OFF A FEW OF THEM.

06:24:13 I UNDERSTAND.

06:24:13 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

06:24:15 I SEE SOME ON HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW WOULD FIT IN WITH AN

06:24:18 ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE TELEPORT.

06:24:21 I'M NOT SO SURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT

06:24:25 HEAR HELICOPTERS LANDING NEXT TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL.

06:24:31 MARINA, THERE'S NO WATER NEAR THERE.

06:24:38 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR?

06:24:39 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF MY PRESENCE.

06:24:44 THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE ACCOMMODATION.

06:24:45 I HAD A FAMILY ISSUE SO I HAVE TO DO TONIGHT VIRTUALLY.

06:24:49 I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ACCOMMODATION.

06:24:50 THANK YOU.

06:24:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:24:52 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

06:25:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WAVING AT LUIS.

06:25:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, JOHN.

06:25:10 THANK YOU.

06:25:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, ARE YOU DONE?

06:25:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION, YES, SIR.

06:25:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPLICANT, GO AHEAD.

06:25:16 IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY OR PRESENT.

06:25:24 >> HE SAYS NO.

06:25:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BY




06:25:32 ANYONE?

06:25:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

06:25:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. DINGFELDER.

06:25:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES ANYONE RECALL, RYAN OR JENNIFER,

06:25:45 WE HAD SOMETHING I THINK RIGHT ON THIS STREET LAST YEAR,

06:25:50 WAS IT A REZONING ON THAT LARGE PARCEL OR WAS IT A COMP

06:25:53 PLAN AMENDMENT ON THAT LARGE PARCEL?

06:25:56 ANYBODY RING A BELL ON THAT?

06:26:00 MAYBE IT WAS MY IMAGINATION.

06:26:05 MAYBE IT WAS SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO THERE.

06:26:06 I KNOW THAT WHOLE AREA IS IN TRANSITION.

06:26:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WAS, MR. DINGFELDER.

06:26:11 I THINK OFF OF BROADWAY.

06:26:13 I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

06:26:14 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

06:26:15 I REMEMBER THAT.

06:26:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

06:26:21 I'M FINE WITH THAT.

06:26:22 I ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION OR

06:26:24 DON'T KNOW YET.

06:26:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

06:26:26 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON

06:26:29 ITEM NUMBER 2?

06:26:30 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS

06:26:33 ITEM.




06:26:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:26:34 ANYBODY IN THE ROOM?

06:26:36 >> THERE'S NO ONE IN THE ROOM TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

06:26:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

06:26:40 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

06:26:42 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

06:26:43 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

06:26:44 ALL IN FAVOR?

06:26:47 ALL RIGHT.

06:26:47 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 2.

06:26:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

06:26:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE, SIR.

06:26:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

06:26:57 I APPRECIATE THAT.

06:26:58 FILE NUMBER -- ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE REZ 20-84, ORDINANCE

06:27:07 BEING PRESENTED FOR THE FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

06:27:11 AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

06:27:13 VICINITY OF 2513 AND 2515 NORTH 57th STREET, IN THE

06:27:23 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

06:27:26 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16

06:27:29 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL),

06:27:33 PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

06:27:35 AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF, THE --

06:27:40 APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE

06:27:43 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS NOTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION




06:27:46 STAFF.

06:27:46 THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WHICH ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT

06:27:50 THAT IS COMPARABLE, COMPARABLE, EXCUSE ME, TO THE

06:27:53 CHARACTERISTICS, THE SURROUNDING USES AND IT'S CONSISTENT

06:27:57 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER

06:28:01 TRANSITIONAL USE 24 LAND USE DESIGNATION.

06:28:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

06:28:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

06:28:09 ROLL-CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

06:28:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

06:28:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

06:28:16 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?

06:28:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED SIR.

06:28:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, YES, SI.

06:28:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

06:28:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

06:28:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OUI.

06:28:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

06:28:33 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

06:28:35 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

06:28:38 AT 9:30 A.M.

06:28:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD WE SEE THE

06:28:43 TRANSLATOR AND MAKE SURE THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE

06:28:45 PETITIONER?

06:28:45 FORGIVE ME, BUT --




06:28:51 >> I EXPLAINED IT TO HIM.

06:28:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN.

06:28:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: VERY GOOD.

06:28:56 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

06:28:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

06:28:58 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

06:28:59 ITEM NUMBER 3.

06:29:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN NUMBER 3, RYAN MANASSE --

06:29:08 >>THE CLERK: THERE ARE SIX INDIVIDUALS SIGNED ON TO SPEAK

06:29:12 FOR THE APPLICANT.

06:29:13 I WILL BRING THEM ON QUICKLY TO BE SWORN IN.

06:29:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

06:29:43 GO AHEAD, SIR.

06:29:44 >>THE CLERK: NOT YET.

06:29:46 OKAY.

06:30:15 THEY ARE ALL GIVEN ACCESS AND CAN COME ON WHEN THEY NEED

06:30:19 TO BE SWORN IN.

06:30:20 THANK YOU.

06:30:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 3, APPLICANTS, I KNOW

06:30:23 THERE ARE SEVERAL.

06:30:23 IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND MICROPHONE, WE'LL

06:30:26 SWEAR YOU IN.

06:30:27 I SEE MR. PETERIKA.

06:30:38 I SEE MR. HUDSON.

06:30:40 ARE THERE FOUR MORE INDIVIDUALS ON BEHALF OF THE




06:30:43 APPLICANT?

06:30:47 >> CHAIRMAN, YES.

06:30:51 WE NEED TO SWEAR IN AT LEAST NOAH ROLLINS.

06:30:54 HE WAS A PART OF OUR PRESENTATION.

06:30:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOAH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE TURN

06:30:58 YOUR CAMERA ON AND YOUR MICROPHONE SO WE CAN SEE YOU AND

06:31:02 SWEAR YOU IN.

06:31:03 NOAH ROLLINS.

06:31:21 ALL RIGHT.

06:31:21 IF YOU COULD ALL PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL

06:31:24 SWEAR YOU IN.

06:31:26 [OATH ADMINISTERED]

06:31:32 >>THE CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN

06:31:34 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.

06:31:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:31:36 MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD, SIR.

06:31:39 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE.

06:31:41 ITEM 3, REZ 20-87.

06:31:44 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 311 NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE.

06:31:47 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION IG

06:31:50 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND

06:31:53 RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND THAT WITH A BONUS

06:31:57 PROVISION AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO 27-140 OF THE LAND

06:32:00 DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY FROM 2.5

06:32:04 F.A.R. TO A 3.25 F.A.R.




06:32:07 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.

06:32:09 IF YOU'D PLEASE RETURN TO ME SO I CAN FINISH MINE.

06:32:13 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING

06:32:16 COMMISSION.

06:32:17 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

06:32:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

06:32:21 GO AHEAD.

06:32:22 WE CAN SEE IT.

06:32:22 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GREAT.

06:32:23 THIS IS FILE 20-87, AS RYAN STATED EARLIER.

06:32:27 IT IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE WEST

06:32:29 TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.

06:32:31 IT IS OUTLINED IN PURPLE ON YOUR SCREEN.

06:32:34 THIS IS AN AERIAL.

06:32:34 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE

06:32:37 SUBJECT SITE.

06:32:38 WE ALSO HAVE THE CSX RAILROAD TO THE EAST AS WELL.

06:32:42 THERE'S A VARIETY OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS

06:32:46 AREA.

06:32:47 JULIAN B. LANE IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH.

06:32:49 I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT A SIMILAR REZONING WAS

06:32:52 APPROVED IN 2019 DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE WHERE

06:32:56 MY MOUSE -- I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE.

06:32:59 I WAS HOVERING OVER IT.

06:33:01 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS URBAN MIXED USE 60.




06:33:06 THAT IS THE LAND USE THAT CONTINUES NORTH.

06:33:08 IT'S THE LIGHT PURPLE.

06:33:09 THERE'S ALSO GENERAL MIXED USE 24 IN THE AREA AS WELL.

06:33:13 THE BLUE REPRESENTS PUBLIC.

06:33:15 THAT IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.

06:33:17 AND THEN THERE'S URBAN MIXED USE 60 TO THE SOUTH OF THE

06:33:22 SUBJECT SITE ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

06:33:24 AS I'M SURE THIS COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR, THIS AREA HAS BEEN

06:33:28 TRANSITIONING FROM A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN

06:33:30 TO MORE OF A MIXED USE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE LAST

06:33:34 DECADE OR SO.

06:33:35 THIS TRANSITION IS SUPPORTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

06:33:37 WE HAVE VERY CLEAR POLICIES TO SUPPORT THIS TRANSITION.

06:33:41 THIS AREA IS SERVED BY TRANSIT.

06:33:42 IT'S WITHIN PROXIMITY TO AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER, AND IT IS

06:33:48 -- THAT TRANSITION HAS BEEN SUPPORTED.

06:33:49 THE APPLICANT HAS MET THESE -- THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

06:33:54 POLICIES THAT RELATE TO DESIGN.

06:33:57 WE FOUND THAT THE ENTRYWAY, THE SIDEWALKS, THE

06:34:00 INTEGRATION OF THE PARKING GARAGE ARE ALL SUPPORTED BY

06:34:04 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES THAT SPEAK TO THOSE

06:34:08 DESIGN COMPONENTS IN THIS AREA.

06:34:10 SO WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT.

06:34:11 WE FOUND THAT THE PD SUPPORTS MANY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE

06:34:14 PLAN POLICIES, AND THIS WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING




06:34:17 OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE

06:34:19 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SERVICES TO THE WEST TAMPA URBAN

06:34:22 VILLAGE.

06:34:22 AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

06:34:24 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

06:34:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

06:34:27 NO.

06:34:29 MR. MANASSE?

06:34:31 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.

06:34:33 IF YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE MY SCREEN.

06:34:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.

06:34:36 GO AHEAD.

06:34:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: EXCELLENT.

06:34:37 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE REZ 20-87.

06:34:41 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 311

06:34:44 NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE FROM IG ZONING DISTRICT TO PD

06:34:50 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOOD

06:34:55 ALONG WITH THE BONUS PROVISION.

06:34:56 THE PROPOSED WAIVERS ARE ON THE SCREEN.

06:34:58 THERE ARE SIX WAIVERS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

06:35:00 AND STAFF CAN GO INTO ANY OF THEM IF YOU HAVE ANY

06:35:05 QUESTIONS.

06:35:05 THE PROPERTY ITSELF, AGAIN, IS PROPOSED TO CONSTRUCT A

06:35:11 TOTAL OF 150 DWELLING UNITS AND 1,675 SQUARE FEET OF

06:35:15 CONVENIENCE GOODS RETAIL SALES USE.




06:35:17 THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES A 257,960-SQUARE-FOOT SIX-STORY

06:35:22 BUILDING WITH ATTACHED PARKING GARAGE.

06:35:24 THE 1.82-ACRE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY BUSINESS

06:35:29 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE AND IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST

06:35:32 CORNER OF THE WEST FIG STREET AND NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE

06:35:35 INTERSECTION.

06:35:35 THERE ARE OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE USES TO THE WEST, NORTH,

06:35:39 AND SOUTH IN IG ZONING DISTRICT.

06:35:42 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH, NORTHEAST, AND

06:35:44 THE PD ZONING DISTRICT, AND THAT'S FILE REZ-19-92, AND

06:35:50 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO THE EAST ACROSS CSX RAIL LINES

06:35:54 IN THE PDA ZONING DISTRICT.

06:35:56 FILE REZ 19-17.

06:35:58 THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT

06:36:01 AND COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 27-140 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA

06:36:04 CODE OF ORDINANCES IS REQUIRED.

06:36:06 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS ARE NORTH 0 FEET, SOUTH 0

06:36:09 FEET, EAST 5 FEET.

06:36:11 AND WEST 0 FEET.

06:36:12 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 92 FEET.

06:36:15 AND THAT'S TWO STORIES PARK PODIUM AND SIX STORIES

06:36:20 RESIDENTIAL.

06:36:20 BASED ON THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND

06:36:23 BEDROOMS, A TOTAL OF 336 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND

06:36:26 294 ARE BEING PROVIDED.




06:36:28 AND THAT IS SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL WAIVER APPROVAL.

06:36:31 ALL PARKING IS PROPOSED WITHIN INTEGRATED PARKING GARAGE

06:36:35 WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY FROM THE TWO WAY

06:36:39 DRIVEWAYS ON NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE.

06:36:40 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION

06:36:43 URBAN MIXED USE 60 AS JENNIFER STATED.

06:36:46 THAT DOES ALLOW THE DENSITY, INTENSITY OF 2.5 F.A.R. BY

06:36:49 RIGHT AND THE INTENSITY/DENSITY OF UP TO 3.25 F.A.R. WHEN

06:36:53 THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ARE MET.

06:36:54 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN INCREASE IN F.A.R. FROM THE 2.5

06:36:58 TO 3.25, AND THAT'S THROUGH THAT BONUS PROVISION

06:37:01 AGREEMENT IN WHICH THEY AGREE TO PAY THE BONUS AMOUNT OF

06:37:04 $728,218.26, AND THAT'S TO ACHIEVE THE INCREMENTAL BONUS.

06:37:10 THE ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS PRESENTED

06:37:12 CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS APPLICATION FOR EXECUTION OF THE

06:37:14 BONUS AGREEMENT.

06:37:15 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.

06:37:20 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT IS THE CSX LINES, AS JENNIFER WAS

06:37:23 STATING.

06:37:24 AND NEWPORT AVENUE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.

06:37:27 THERE IS A LOCAL HISTORIC BUILDING WITHIN A THOUSAND

06:37:30 FEET.

06:37:31 IT'S THE METAL WORKS DICUS BUILDING AND THERE ARE NO

06:37:35 NATIONAL LANDMARKS WITHIN THIS THOUSAND FOOT RADIUS.

06:37:39 HERE IS THE FIRST PAGE OF THE SITE PLAN.




06:37:41 AND JUST BRIEFLY FROM MY PRESENTATION, HERE'S YOUR ACCESS

06:37:44 ON NEWPORT.

06:37:46 AND ALSO THE LOADING BERTHS, AND THEN IT'S THE INTEGRATED

06:37:51 PARKING GARAGE ALONG WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USES.

06:37:55 HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OR SOME SLIDES OF THE ELEVATIONS.

06:37:58 SO GOING FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM, THE NORTH

06:38:00 ELEVATION -- SOUTH -- SORRY, MY CAMERA -- WEST BEING AT

06:38:05 THE BOTTOM.

06:38:06 AND THEN THE EAST ELEVATION AT THE TOP.

06:38:08 SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

06:38:13 AND THEN ON THE LEFT SIDE, THIS IS THE NORTH END OF FIG

06:38:16 STREET.

06:38:17 THESE TWO PHOTOS ON TOP AND BOTTOM AND THEN THE WEST SIDE

06:38:19 OF NEWPORT ON TOP AND BOTTOM.

06:38:21 STARTING AT THE TOP LEFT, THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH ON

06:38:25 NEWPORT.

06:38:27 AND THEN WEST OF THE SITE ON NEWPORT, BELOW THAT, TOP

06:38:32 RIGHT, NORTHWEST OF THE SITE, CORNER OF FIG AND NEWPORT,

06:38:35 AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SITE, SOUTHWEST

06:38:38 CORNER OF FIG AND NEWPORT.

06:38:40 TOP LEFT PHOTO IS NORTH OF THE SITE, WHICH IS THE

06:38:44 NORTHEAST CORNER OF FIG AND NEWPORT.

06:38:46 TOP RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SITE, NORTHWEST CORNER OF FIG

06:38:49 AND GILCHRIST.

06:38:50 AND THEN BOTTOM PICTURE, NORTH SIDE VIEW LOOKING EAST ON




06:38:53 FIG.

06:38:54 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED

06:38:58 THE PETITION, AND WE FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH

06:39:00 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

06:39:03 PLEASE REFER TO THE FINDINGS PROVIDED BY TRANSPORTATION

06:39:06 AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

06:39:07 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE

06:39:09 WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT AND THE APPLICATION

06:39:12 ITSELF, THERE ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN

06:39:15 FIRST AND SECOND READING PER THE REVISION SHEET.

06:39:18 AND MY STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY

06:39:21 HAVE.

06:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DINGFELDER.

06:39:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

06:39:25 A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT IS GOING

06:39:30 TO CHIME IN ON THESE AS WELL.

06:39:33 I HAD TROUBLE SEEING.

06:39:39 THE SITE PLAN CAME UP KIND OF SMALL ON MY SCREEN.

06:39:42 I WAS SORT OF SURPRISED TO HEAR ABOUT 0 SETBACKS.

06:39:47 IS THERE A RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH SIDEWALKS AND THEN IT'S 0

06:39:53 SETBACKS FROM THE SIDEWALKS?

06:39:56 HOW IS THAT WORKING?

06:39:56 ALSO, IN REGARD TO TREES -- AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS

06:40:02 MR. PETERIKA AND I GUESS WE HAVE MR. BORS, I UNDERSTAND

06:40:09 THE TREE REMOVAL BECAUSE, CLEARLY, THEY ARE CLEARING THE




06:40:14 ENTIRE SITE AND USING THE ENTIRE SITE.

06:40:16 THAT SEEMS PRETTY OBVIOUS.

06:40:18 SO THE TREE REMOVAL PART IS NOT SURPRISING TO ME, BUT IN

06:40:22 TERMS OF TREE REPLACEMENT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S

06:40:24 ANY TREE REPLACEMENT ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

06:40:27 HOW DOES THAT WORK ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, ESPECIALLY ON THE

06:40:30 NORTH AND THE WEST RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH SEEMS TO BE RATHER

06:40:34 SIGNIFICANT?

06:40:37 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

06:40:38 I'LL DEFER THAT QUESTION WITH THE TREES TO -- I CAN DO

06:40:41 THE STAFF SIDE WITH BILL BORS.

06:40:44 AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS, THEY ARE LISTED BY THE APPLICANT

06:40:46 AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

06:40:48 I CAN LET THEM ANSWER THAT AS WELL ON THE NORTH SIDE.

06:40:53 JUST BRIEFLY, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PROPERTY LINE IS HERE,

06:40:55 THE DARKER DASHED.

06:40:56 I CAN TRY TO ZOOM IN FOR THAT IF THAT HELPS ANY.

06:40:59 AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THESE AREAS ARE LABELED LIKE THE

06:41:02 LOBBY.

06:41:03 YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY OUTLINED IN THE DARK

06:41:06 DASHED LINE.

06:41:07 THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THAT SETBACK IS COMING IN AT ZERO.

06:41:10 BUT I CAN LET MR. HUDSON EXPLAIN MORE OF THAT IN HIS

06:41:15 PRESENTATION.

06:41:15 AND THEN IF YOU'D LIKE, BILL BORS CAN COMMENT ON YOUR




06:41:20 FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES.

06:41:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BILL, BEFORE YOU COME ON AND PERHAPS

06:41:26 JONATHAN MIGHT WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS FROM

06:41:29 TRANSPORTATION STAFF, BUT I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A

06:41:32 FAIRLY CONSISTENT REQUEST FROM STAFF THAT -- AND TO HAVE

06:41:39 ACCESS TO THIS RAIL LINE THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE

06:41:41 ACCESS TO THIS RAIL LINE AND DOES THIS PROJECT ADDRESS

06:41:45 THAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM?

06:41:51 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

06:41:54 THEY ARE PROVIDING SIDEWALKS AROUND THE PROPERTY.

06:41:56 NOW, AS FAR AS BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR

06:41:58 THE RAIL LINE, THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING ANY ACCESS.

06:42:02 THERE'S STILL OPEN RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG FIG STREET AND ALSO

06:42:05 THAT STREET TO THE SOUTH THERE, THE NORTH B STREET I

06:42:08 BELIEVE THERE.

06:42:09 SO THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING ANY ACCESS TO THE RAIL LINE.

06:42:11 SO IT WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH ANY FUTURE PROJECTS, NOT

06:42:16 TRYING TO VACATE ANYTHING.

06:42:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

06:42:19 JONATHAN, ONE LAST QUESTION TO YOU THEN.

06:42:21 BEFORE WE GET TO BILL ON TREES.

06:42:24 $728,000, IS THAT EARMARKED FOR ANY PARTICULAR

06:42:30 TRANSPORTATION PROJECT?

06:42:34 >> YES, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED ONE PROJECT.

06:42:36 IT IS FOR THE WEST CYPRESS IMPROVEMENT CAPITAL PROJECT.




06:42:41 SO THAT HAS LIKE A PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

06:42:45 PHASE ONE IS LIKE FROM DALE MABRY TO HIMES AND PHASE TWO

06:42:48 IS FROM HIMES TO NORTH BOULEVARD.

06:42:49 AND THAT'S CONSISTS OF WIDENING AND RECONSTRUCTING

06:42:55 SIGNALIZATION, PROVIDING CONTINUOUS SIDEWALKS ON BOTH

06:42:58 SIDES.

06:42:58 SO THE PROJECT HAS GOT A LOT OF COMPLETE STREET ASPECTS

06:43:02 TO IT.

06:43:03 THAT'S THE PROJECT THEY HAVE EARMARKED IN OUR CAPITAL

06:43:05 IMPROVEMENT C.I.P. PROJECT.

06:43:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS PROJECT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE

06:43:10 RELATED TO PHASE TWO.

06:43:12 WHEN WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY EXPECT

06:43:15 PHASE TWO TO COME ALONG?

06:43:19 >> JONATHAN SCOTT: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY KNOWN

06:43:21 YET.

06:43:22 I JUST HAVE A FACT SHEET ON IT.

06:43:24 I THINK THE PHASE ONE IS TAKING PLACE REAL SOON.

06:43:26 PHASE TWO, I'M NOT VERY SURE ON EXACTLY WHEN THAT WILL

06:43:31 TAKE PLACE.

06:43:31 PROBABLY RIGHT, PROBABLY PHASE TWO, MORE OR LESS, IF THEY

06:43:35 CAN'T GET IT INTO THE PHASE ONE.

06:43:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BILL, WHAT ABOUT ON-SITE TREES?

06:43:43 >> WE LOOKED AT THIS CLOSELY AND THE APPLICANT IS GOING

06:43:47 TO PRESENT THE PLAN -- CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?




06:43:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

06:43:52 >> THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO PRESENT A PLAN REVISING THE

06:43:56 PERIMETER THERE'S.

06:43:58 NATURAL RESOURCES WAS LOOKING FOR HEAVILY PLANTED

06:44:03 PERIMETER TREES.

06:44:04 THOSE ARE PART OF THE REPLACEMENT TREES.

06:44:06 PLAN THAT THERE ARE NOW 12 TREES SCHEDULED TO GO IN ALONG

06:44:12 THE NEWPORT SIDE.

06:44:15 SKY CLIMBER OAKS, FOUR INCH CALIPER, 16-FOOT IN HEIGHT.

06:44:21 WE WORKED WITH JONATHAN SCOTT WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT THEY

06:44:23 ARE PROPOSING, SIX-FOOT SIDEWALK WOULD BE PUSHED TO THE

06:44:27 CURB, SO WE HAD TO MAKE IT A FOOT WIDER, FIVE FEET TO SIX

06:44:31 FEET.

06:44:32 THAT WILL GIVE US 15 FEET OF GREENSPACE.

06:44:35 FOR ALL THE TREES ALONG NEWPORT.

06:44:40 AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE 12 TREES.

06:44:43 AND THEN ALONG FIG STREET, REAL NARROW STRIP LIKE YOU

06:44:50 COULD SEE THERE, GREENSPACE.

06:44:52 WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO INSTALL -- WHICH INCREASES

06:45:02 THE ROOT CAPACITY.

06:45:03 WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN GET TREES

06:45:06 GROWING INTO BIGGER ROOTING SPACE.

06:45:10 SO THEY ARE INSTALLED UNDERGROUND TO ALLOW THE ROOTS TO

06:45:13 GROW UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK, SPECIAL SOIL MIX.

06:45:16 AND IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT, BECAUSE THEY ARE OAKS, WE




06:45:21 WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SIDEWALK LIFTING ADJACENT TO ALL

06:45:24 THESE OAKS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

06:45:27 AND WE'LL PUT ROOT BARRIER IN THERE SO THAT THE ROOTS ARE

06:45:31 DEFLECTED FROM TRAVELING RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE WALKS AND

06:45:34 LIFTING THEM.

06:45:35 WE WANT THIS TO BE STABLE FOR THE LONG TERM, AND WE ALSO

06:45:39 WANT IT HEAVILY PLANTED.

06:45:42 THE OTHER BENCHMARK THAT THEY NEED TO MEET, IT'S IN THE

06:45:45 CODE THAT -- THERE HAS TO BE 80% OPACITY FOR THE

06:45:50 STATIONARY VEHICLES IN THE PARKING GARAGE.

06:45:54 THAT'S LEVEL ONE AND LEVEL TWO.

06:45:56 SO THAT'S PARTLY DONE WITH PLANT MATERIAL TREES, OAKS,

06:46:02 AND PROBABLY DONE WITH ARCHITECTURE, SO WE STUDIED THE

06:46:05 ELEVATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S 80% OPAQUE FROM VIEW

06:46:13 FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

06:46:13 THERE IS A NEW PLAN THAT THEY PROPOSED TO IMPLEMENT

06:46:20 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM

06:46:23 THIS PLAN THAT'S BEING VIEWED RIGHT NOW.

06:46:26 AND IT BASICALLY, WHEN WE SAW MORE TREE PLANTING AT THE

06:46:29 PERIMETER, HEAVIER TREE PLANTING, SO THAT WE CAN SOFTEN

06:46:32 THE IMPACT OF THIS STRUCTURE.

06:46:36 DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

06:46:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

06:46:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VERY COMPREHENSIVE, BUT SOUNDS LIKE

06:46:44 YOU'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE APPLICANT.




06:46:46 WE APPRECIATE IT.

06:46:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

06:46:50 >> RICKY PETERIKA MOSTLY.

06:46:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR JONATHAN.

06:46:58 THE BONUS AMOUNT, AND I'M LOOKING AT 311 NORTH NEWPORT.

06:47:05 YOU SAID THE MONEY WOULD GO TOWARDS CYPRESS?

06:47:09 >> JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

06:47:11 THEY EARMARKED ONE OF OUR C.I.P., OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

06:47:17 PROJECTS, AND THAT IS THE WEST CYPRESS STREET IMPROVEMENT

06:47:21 PROJECT.

06:47:21 THAT THEY HAVE EARMARKED, BONUS TO GO TOWARDS.

06:47:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LOOKING AT WHERE NEWPORT IS TO WHERE

06:47:36 YOU'RE SAYING CYPRESS AND THE MONEY GOING THAT FAR OVER.

06:47:43 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

06:47:43 THEY TRIED TO PICK ONE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, OBVIOUSLY,

06:47:46 AND THAT'S WHEN -- AND THAT'S THE ONE THEY CAME UP WITH.

06:47:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?

06:47:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

06:47:56 MR. MANASSE, ARE YOU THERE?

06:47:58 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

06:47:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE ASKING FOR WAIVERS

06:48:01 BUT IS THE DENSITY STILL COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING

06:48:05 AREA?

06:48:07 >>RYAN MANASSE: SO STAFF OVERALL FOUND THE PLANNING

06:48:10 CONSISTENT BUT THAT'S BASED OFF THE TRANSPORTATION AND




06:48:12 NATURAL RESOURCES FINDING.

06:48:13 IN ORDER TO GET THE DENSITY, THEY ARE REQUIRING A BONUS

06:48:15 PROVISION AGREEMENT.

06:48:16 SO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL, THEN THE DENSITY

06:48:21 WOULD BE CORRECT.

06:48:22 AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING A BONUS, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT

06:48:27 PAYMENT INTO THE C.I.P. PROJECT COMES IN.

06:48:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE DENSITY IN THAT

06:48:32 AREA PER ACRE?

06:48:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: WITH THE BONUS?

06:48:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT THE BONUS.

06:48:39 I'M TRYING TO FIGURE BEFORE THE BONUS IS ASKED FOR,

06:48:42 BEFORE THE WAIVERS.

06:48:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: JENNIFER, DO YOU HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE

06:48:46 AND CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE DENSITY FOR THE FUTURE LAND

06:48:48 USE, PLEASE?

06:48:48 >>JENNIFER MALONE: SURE.

06:48:49 JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

06:48:53 I WILL LOOK, IN OUR STAFF REPORT, WE STATE THAT UNDER THE

06:48:57 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE SUBJECT SITE IS ELIGIBLE

06:48:59 FOR UP TO 109 DWELLING UNITS OR APPROXIMATELY 257,000

06:49:05 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL.

06:49:07 BUT PROJECTS, AND THEN PROJECTS IN THE LAND USE CATEGORY

06:49:15 CAN BE DETERMINED BY DENSITY OR F.A.R.

06:49:18 WE ALSO STATE LATER ON, THIS IS THE STATEMENT I WAS




06:49:21 LOOKING FOR.

06:49:21 ANY DEVELOPMENT EXCEEDING 91 DWELLING UNITS OR 198,430

06:49:26 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE BONUS

06:49:28 CRITERIA.

06:49:29 SO SINCE THEY'VE EXCEEDED THE 198,000 APPROXIMATELY

06:49:34 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS WHAT'S KICKING THEM

06:49:36 INTO THAT BONUS, AND CAN I CALCULATE -- ARE YOU

06:49:41 INTERESTED IN THE DENSITY WITHOUT THE BONUS?

06:49:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.

06:49:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MALONE.

06:49:47 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YOU'RE WELCOME.

06:49:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.

06:49:52 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

06:49:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

06:49:53 WE GO TO THE APPLICANT.

06:49:58 >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

06:50:01 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.

06:50:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

06:50:16 GO AHEAD.

06:50:18 >> YOU SEE A PowerPoint?

06:50:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE DO.

06:50:21 >> GREAT.

06:50:21 I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT.

06:50:24 THIS PROJECT BRINGS TOGETHER SOME OF THE TOP COMPANIES.

06:50:30 STANTEC IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER.




06:50:32 WE HAVE BEN ON THE LINE.

06:50:33 COLLIERS INTERNATIONAL.

06:50:35 DALE IS ON THE LINE.

06:50:37 PROJECT ENGINEER.

06:50:38 RICKY PETERIKA, DARK MOSS, CONSULTING ARBORIST IS HERE

06:50:43 WITH ME IN THE ROOM AS WELL AS OUR CHIEF PLANNER WHO IS

06:50:47 AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY.

06:50:48 TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE.

06:50:51 THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED BACK IN AUGUST.

06:50:53 WE WERE BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER IN CONNECTION WITH THE

06:50:55 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.

06:50:57 THAT WAS DENIED.

06:50:58 WE HEARD THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR AND MOVED QUICKLY TO

06:51:01 NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA A BONUS PAYMENT

06:51:04 AGREEMENT THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT WILL -- LITTLE

06:51:08 OVER $720,000 TO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE

06:51:12 NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.

06:51:13 THIS WASN'T A PROJECT THAT WE GOT TO PICK.

06:51:16 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ON.

06:51:18 THERE ARE SOME LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT HE CAN DISCUSS

06:51:22 THAT THE MONEY HAS TO GO TOWARDS A, QUOTE, CAPITAL

06:51:25 IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, C.I.P., AND THIS ONE SEEMED TO BE

06:51:29 THE MOST APPROPRIATE.

06:51:30 TO BE CLEAR TODAY, WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A PD

06:51:33 REZONING TOGETHER WITH THE BONUS PAYMENT AGREEMENT.




06:51:35 THERE IS NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT'S PROPOSED

06:51:40 OR REQUIRED.

06:51:40 JUST TO REINFORCE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT RYAN ADDRESSED,

06:51:44 YOU CAN SEE HERE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, WHICH IS A DAY

06:51:47 CARE FOR DOGS.

06:51:48 THE SITE IS ABOUT 1.82 ACRES, THREE BLOCKS NORTH OF

06:51:52 KENNEDY.

06:51:53 IT'S A CHANGING AREA.

06:51:56 PREDOMINANTLY INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL.

06:51:58 IT'S EVOLVING INTO MULTIFAMILY.

06:51:59 I THINK WE CAN EXPECT THE EVOLUTION TO CONTINUE GIVEN THE

06:52:03 PROXIMITY TO THE KENNEDY CORRIDOR AS WELL AS THE

06:52:05 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

06:52:07 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS A PRIVATELY DEVELOPED HOUSING

06:52:12 DEVELOPMENT FOR STUDENTS.

06:52:17 THE STUDENT AND STUDENT HOUSING WILL BE ENFORCED THROUGH

06:52:19 LEASE RESTRICTIONS.

06:52:20 IT WILL NOT BE SPECIFIC TO ANY STUDENT BUT THE TENANTS

06:52:23 WILL NEED TO BE ENROLLED IN A POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION.

06:52:27 150 MULTI-BEDROOM UNITS.

06:52:30 WE DO HAVE A STREET-LEVEL RETAIL SPACE FOR CONVENIENCE,

06:52:34 CONVENIENCE STORE OR SMALL FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCEPT.

06:52:37 AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER.

06:52:38 AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT IS THE FARTHEST DOWN THE

06:52:41 STREET ON THE RIGHT.




06:52:42 AND AS BILL ALLUDED TO AND RICKY WILL DISCUSS

06:52:45 MOMENTARILY, WE HAVE REALLY WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE

06:52:48 THAT THIS PROMOTES THE URBAN CANOPY AND AS MANY HEALTHY

06:52:53 VIBRANT STREET TREES WE CAN.

06:52:55 FIRST, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INCONSISTENCIES.

06:52:57 WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE WAIVERS IN A SECOND.

06:52:58 BUT RYAN ALLUDED TO FINDINGS OF INCONSISTENCY FROM

06:53:02 NATURAL RESOURCES AND ALSO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL

06:53:04 SEE URBAN DESIGN.

06:53:06 WHAT I CAN TELL YOU HERE TODAY IS THAT WITH CHANGES MADE

06:53:09 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, IT IS OUR OPINION, AND

06:53:12 I BELIEVE THE OPINION OF STAFF THAT WE WILL BE CONSISTENT

06:53:16 WITH NATURAL RESOURCES AND URBAN DESIGN REQUIREMENTS

06:53:18 AFTER MAKING THOSE CHANGES.

06:53:20 ON TRANSPORTATION, WE ARE PURSUING A WAIVER AND WE'RE

06:53:22 GOING TO DISCUSS THAT IN A SECOND.

06:53:24 BUT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT NATURAL RESOURCES, URBAN

06:53:27 DESIGN, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THE

06:53:29 ISSUES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

06:53:31 LET'S JUMP INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WAIVERS.

06:53:33 THERE'S SIX WAIVERS THAT FALL INTO THREE BUCKETS.

06:53:37 LOADING, PARKING, AND TREES.

06:53:38 I'M GOING TO HANDLE THE FIRST TWO AND THEN HAND THINGS

06:53:41 OFF TO RICKY TO TALK ABOUT TREES.

06:53:43 THE THREE OF OUR SIX WAIVERS ALL RELATE TO LOADING.




06:53:46 NOW, WE HAVE TWO 12 BY 30 SPACES THAT CAN BE USED FOR

06:53:50 LOADING, BUT ONLY ONE OF THOSE COUNTS BECAUSE THE SECOND

06:53:54 BACKS UP TO A TRASH COMPACTOR.

06:53:56 THIS COUNCIL IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH LOADING BERTH

06:53:59 REDUCTION REQUESTS.

06:54:00 BECAUSE OF THE CYCLICAL AND PREDICTABLE NATURE OF STUDENT

06:54:03 HOUSING WITH CRAZY WEEKEND OF MOVE IN AND CRAZY WEEKEND

06:54:08 OF MOVE OUT, WE BELIEVE THAT THE LOADING INFRASTRUCTURE

06:54:10 IN PLACE IS APPROPRIATE.

06:54:12 WE CONSIDERED THE SHAPE OF THE SITE, TRAPEZOID, VAGUELY

06:54:20 TRIANGULAR, AND THE SIZE OF TWO 12 BY 60 LOADING BERTHS,

06:54:22 IT WAS OUR BELIEF THIS WAIVER IS JUSTIFIED FIRST FOR SOME

06:54:26 OF THE REASONS IN THE MEMO I PROVIDED TO YOUR OFFICES.

06:54:29 REALLY, A PRACTICAL JUSTICE OF NOT USING SO MUCH REAL

06:54:35 ESTATE FOR LOADING BERTHS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE SO

06:54:38 INFREQUENTLY UTILIZED.

06:54:39 I THINK THE PARKING REDUCTION IS WHAT YOU ALL SEE MOST

06:54:45 OFTEN.

06:54:45 CERTAINLY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REDUCTIONS ON SCREEN.

06:54:48 336 TO 294.

06:54:50 THIS IS A PROJECT FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HAVE A

06:54:53 CAR.

06:54:54 TAMPA HAS TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT.

06:54:55 THERE ARE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO BE

06:54:57 TRULY CAR OPTIONAL.




06:54:58 IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT GIVEN THE MAJORITY OF OUR TENANTS

06:55:01 EXPECTING TO BE UT STUDENTS AND JUST HOW CLOSE IT IS TO

06:55:04 UT, THIS IS GOING TO BE TRULY A CAR-OPTIONAL DEVELOPMENT

06:55:09 FOR A LOT OF STUDENTS, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN WALK,

06:55:12 BUT MICROMOBILITY, UBER, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO

06:55:15 HAVE BIKE PARKING THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE OVER A HUNDRED

06:55:18 BIKES.

06:55:20 AND YOU ARE NEAR A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU'LL WANT TO WALK

06:55:23 TO.

06:55:24 I'LL EXPAND ON THAT POINT IN A SECOND.

06:55:26 WE DO BELIEVE THAT OUR REDUCTION REQUEST IS IN LINE WITH

06:55:31 WHAT HAS BEEN GRANTED BY PRIOR COUNCILS.

06:55:33 THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT BINDING PRECEDENT ON YOU-ALL, BUT I

06:55:35 DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT THAT

06:55:38 THE PARCEL DUE TO THE NORTH OF US RECEIVED A 13%

06:55:42 REDUCTION.

06:55:43 FURTHER TO THE WEST, WHICH IS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE

06:55:45 UNIVERSITY AND THE DOWNTOWN CORE, YOU SEE REDUCTIONS OF

06:55:48 15%, 29%.

06:55:50 SO WE BELIEVE THAT OUR REDUCTION REQUEST OF 13% IS

06:55:53 CONSISTENT AND REASONABLE.

06:55:55 HERE I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

06:55:58 IF YOU GO TO WALK SCORE.COM.

06:56:01 I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S EXPERT TESTIMONY OR NOT, BUT I

06:56:04 THINK IT'S A FAIRLY POPULAR WEBSITE FOR DETERMINING THESE




06:56:07 TYPES OF THINGS, THE WALK RATINGS, 76, QUOTE, VERY

06:56:11 WALKABLE, 77 FOR VERY BIKEABLE.

06:56:14 DID YOU GUYS LOSE MY SCREEN.

06:56:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN STILL SEE IT.

06:56:23 IT'S ON THE WALKABILITY SLIDE.

06:56:25 >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

06:56:26 APOLOGIES.

06:56:26 YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP -- YOU ALL KNOW GENERALLY WHERE

06:56:30 THE SITE IS.

06:56:31 THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN WALK TO.

06:56:33 WE THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE TENANT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

06:56:36 PLENTY OF PARKING FOR THE FOLKS WHO WILL HAVE A CAR BUT

06:56:38 WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRULY CAR OPTIONAL

06:56:41 OFFERING AND MUCH-NEEDED GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO THE

06:56:44 UNIVERSITY.

06:56:44 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I THINK DISTINGUISHES THIS

06:56:47 DEAL THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH

06:56:49 THAT WE HAVE HAD.

06:56:50 WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, DOZENS OF PHONE CALLS, AND

06:56:56 LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS WITH VARIOUS COMMUNITY

06:56:58 LEADERS, NEIGHBORS, FOLKS WHO LIKE THE PROJECT, FOLKS WHO

06:57:01 WERE INITIALLY SKEPTICAL ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO

06:57:05 BE BRINGING NEIGHBORS TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THIS

06:57:07 DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HOLD THIS PROJECT.

06:57:10 THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOR A WHILE.




06:57:11 SO WE ARE ALREADY TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT

06:57:13 COLLABORATING ON PROJECTS LIKE INTERSECTION MURALS, OUR

06:57:17 BUILDING WILL HAVE SOME MURALS THAT WE WANT TO GET LOCAL

06:57:19 ARTIST SUPPORT FOR AS WELL AS A WELCOME SIGN TO THIS

06:57:23 NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS TRANSITIONING A GREAT DEAL.

06:57:26 I TALKED ABOUT THE BONUS PAYMENT.

06:57:27 THAT'S THE AMOUNT.

06:57:29 KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

06:57:32 HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

06:57:34 AGGREGATE IMPACT FEES ABOUT $1.8 MILLION FOR THIS

06:57:37 DEVELOPMENT, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BONUS PAYMENT

06:57:39 WHICH IS NOT AN IMPACT FEE.

06:57:41 AS A RESULT OF ALL THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WE'RE VERY

06:57:44 PROUD TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC

06:57:48 ASSOCIATION AND ALLIANCE.

06:57:49 LETTERS HAVE BEEN SENT TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL OFFICES AS WELL

06:57:52 AS UPLOADED INTO ACCELA.

06:57:54 WE'RE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF -- IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD, BUT

06:57:58 WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR BEING A PART OF THE

06:58:00 NEIGHBORHOOD.

06:58:00 WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO RICKY.

06:58:02 HE'LL TALK ABOUT TREES.

06:58:03 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

06:58:04 RICKY PETERIKA WITH DARK MOSS.

06:58:06 AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER NOTED, WITH TREE PRESERVATION ON




06:58:10 THIS SITE AND WITH THIS PROJECT, MINIMUM RETENTION WAS

06:58:15 UNABLE TO BE MET.

06:58:17 HOWEVER, TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF THAT CANOPY LOSS, THE

06:58:21 DESIGN TEAM WENT BACK AND FORTH ON SEVERAL ITERATIONS

06:58:27 WITH NATURAL RESOURCES, SPECIFICALLY BILL BORS TO DEVELOP

06:58:30 A MORE VIABLE STREETSCAPE WHERE LARGER TREES COULD BE

06:58:36 ESTABLISHED BY USING -- BY INCREASING GREENSPACE,

06:58:40 ENLARGING SIDEWALKS AND INCLUDING STRUCTURAL SOIL SYSTEMS

06:58:43 TO IMPROVE STREET TREE PLANTING.

06:58:46 WE'RE MEETING THE MAJORITY OF THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS

06:58:49 REQUIRED FOR THE TREE REMOVAL.

06:58:52 ADDITIONALLY, USING THE NEW PROVISION IN THE TREE CODE OF

06:58:57 THE TREE PLANTING PERMIT FOR MITIGATION TREES.

06:59:01 WE'RE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO IDENTIFY CANDIDATE

06:59:05 SPOTS TO PLANT THE REMAINDER OF THE MITIGATION TREES.

06:59:11 SO THE WAIVER REQUEST FOR THE IN LIEU FEE PAYMENT IS

06:59:14 THERE ONLY AS A SAFETY NET, ASSUMING SOMETHING CAN'T BE

06:59:18 ARRANGED.

06:59:18 BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING NO NET LOSS OF CANOPY

06:59:23 TO THE NORTH HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

06:59:27 >> THANKS, RICKY.

06:59:28 BRIEFLY, I'D NOAH ROLLINS FOR GENSLER TO CHAT A LITTLE

06:59:32 BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN.

06:59:32 ON SCREEN NOW IS A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT.

06:59:33 NOAH, IF YOU CAN CHAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN




06:59:33 PHILOSOPHY BEHIND THIS.

06:59:33 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JIM CREW, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, IF I MAY

06:59:33 INTERRUPT AND PAUSE FOR A MOMENT.

06:59:34 THERE WERE THREE ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE

06:59:34 APPLICANT WHO WERE NOT ON SCREEN AT THE BEGINNING TO BE

06:59:49 SWORN IN.

06:59:50 AND THAT IS PRUETT, STIGAMIER, AND HORNER.

06:59:59 >> IF IT'S OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO WRAP UP OUR

07:00:01 PRESENTATION.

07:00:02 THOSE GENTLEMEN ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR TEAM BUT REALLY

07:00:04 HERE TO ANSWER ANY SUBJECTS, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

07:00:07 IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO WRAP UP QUICKLY.

07:00:09 I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG NIGHT.

07:00:11 DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU?

07:00:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

07:00:17 >> NOAH, CAN YOU CHAT A LITTLE BIT.

07:00:18 WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES LEFT.

07:00:20 CHAT ABOUT THE DESIGN PHILOSOPHY HERE.

07:00:22 >> SURE, IF YOU DON'T MAXIMIZING AGAIN.

07:00:25 NOAH ROLLINS, PROJECT DESIGNER WITH GENSLER, WEST ALFRED

07:00:28 STREET.

07:00:29 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH YOU AT A SAFE

07:00:32 DISTANCE.

07:00:33 I'M REALLY PROUD TO SHARE THIS PROJECT WITH YOU.

07:00:36 THERE'S A JUST A FEW ELEMENTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE.




07:00:38 I KNOW WE'RE REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT A REZONING, BUT

07:00:41 IT'S HARD NOT TO GET AN ARCHITECT EXCITED ABOUT TALKING

07:00:44 ABOUT THE DESIGN WE'RE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY.

07:00:46 JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING REALLY WITH AN

07:00:48 EYE TOWARD THE HISTORY OF THE DISTRICTS AROUND HERE AS

07:00:51 WELL AS THE FUTURE.

07:00:53 ONE ELEMENT, AND IT'S BEEN TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT IN THE

07:00:55 PLAN.

07:00:56 WE REALLY TRIED TO ORIENT THE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO OUR

07:01:01 SITE ALONG THE NORTH NEWPORT AND ENCOURAGING VEHICULAR

07:01:08 ACCESS TO NORTH B.

07:01:09 GARAGE ENTRY TO THE FAR SOUTH.

07:01:11 YOU CAN SEE THE BERTH A LITTLE CLOSER.

07:01:13 WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ORIENT THE PROJECT.

07:01:17 LOBBY, RETAIL, BALCONIES TOWARD FIG BEING REALLY MORE OF

07:01:20 A PEDESTRIAN, BICYCLE, NON-VEHICULAR ENCOURAGING ARTERY

07:01:25 TODAY AND CERTAINLY THINKING TOWARD THE FUTURE WHERE WE

07:01:28 HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE ENHANCED CONNECTIVITY OF FIG

07:01:32 TO THE CSX DEVELOPMENTS THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE TO

07:01:35 THE CAMPUS BEYOND.

07:01:38 SECOND ELEMENT YOU'LL SORT OF SEE IN THE KIND OF SCALE

07:01:41 AND MASSING OF THE BUILDING.

07:01:43 WHILE IT IS SIX RESIDENTIAL ABOVE A TWO-STORY PODIUM, WE

07:01:46 HAVE ATTEMPTED TO REALLY STEP AND SCALE THAT

07:01:49 ARCHITECTURE, PARTICULARLY OUR PARKING PODIUM TO HAVE A




07:01:53 BIT OF RESPECT TO SOME OF THE CONTEXT THAT WILL CONTINUE

07:01:56 TO EXIST AROUND HERE, THE SORT OF 25-FOOT INDUSTRIAL --

07:02:01 SOME OF THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO

07:02:03 BE HERE, WE HOPE, IN THIS DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD.

07:02:05 ALSO, WE ARE WORKING WITH CLIENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

07:02:09 DEVELOPING A DESIGN THAT USES THE BUILDING MATERIALS AND

07:02:13 THE PROPORTIONS OF THE OPENINGS IN THE BUILDING THAT ARE

07:02:15 VERY RESPECTFUL OF HISTORIC WAREHOUSE AND CIGAR FACTORY

07:02:20 AND STRUCTURES LIKE THAT AS WELL AS MAINTAINING A

07:02:23 CONTEMPORARY AND FUTURE LEANING LOOK.

07:02:26 LASTLY, REALLY EXCITED TO MENTION AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW

07:02:30 WE DESIGN THESE PROJECTS FOR THE LONG-TERM IN OUR CITIES,

07:02:33 WE HAVE DEVELOPED THIS AS A RESILIENT CAST IN PLACE

07:02:36 CONCRETE STRUCTURE.

07:02:37 IT IS A FLAT SLAB PARKING GARAGE WITH THE RAMP

07:02:40 ESSENTIALLY TUCKED INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.

07:02:42 THAT ALLOWS US TO THINK ABOUT A FUTURE WHERE WE HOPE

07:02:46 THERE'S LESS RESILIENCE ON VEHICLES, AND AS YOU START TO

07:02:49 PEEL AWAY PARKING SPACES WITHIN, THE BUILDING COULD BE

07:02:53 ADAPTED IN THE FUTURE WHERE YOU START TO PLUG MORE

07:02:56 STREET-LEVEL RETAIL IN AS WE ALL HOPE THE CAR BECOMES

07:03:01 LESS SIGNIFICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPS AROUND IT.

07:03:04 THANK YOU.

07:03:04 >> THANK YOU, NOAH.

07:03:05 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.




07:03:08 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

07:03:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DINGFELDER.

07:03:13 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

07:03:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY MICROPHONE BUTTON.

07:03:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE GOOD.

07:03:23 GO AHEAD.

07:03:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, TYLER, AND YOUR TEAM.

07:03:31 IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT.

07:03:32 WELL DESIGNED.

07:03:34 I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IS IT A LEED CERTIFIED BUILDING IN

07:03:41 THE CITY CODE WE HAVE INCENTIVES FOR LEED CERTIFIED

07:03:47 PROJECTS, AND HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE'LL HAVE MORE

07:03:50 INCENTIVES WORKING WITH BEAMER AND STUFF.

07:03:54 ANYWAY, I'M CURIOUS, BRAND-NEW MODERN BUILDING LIKE THAT

07:03:58 FOR MODERN STUDENTS, WISH MY DORMITORY IN GAINESVILLE HAD

07:04:04 LOOKED THAT NICE.

07:04:05 ANYWAY, TYLER, ANY COMMENTS ON THE LEED ASPECT OF THIS?

07:04:10 YOU HAVE SOLAR ON THE ROOF OR ANYTHING?

07:04:12 >> THANKS, COUNCILOR.

07:04:14 I AM GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE ARCHITECT AND SEE WHERE

07:04:18 WE ARE IN DESIGNS.

07:04:19 NOAH, IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT, PLEASE.

07:04:22 >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.

07:04:25 I ALSO WISH MY GAINESVILLE DORM HAD BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR

07:04:29 THIS QUALITY.




07:04:29 IT IS NOT CURRENTLY PURSUED AS LEED CERTIFICATION FOR THE

07:04:32 PROJECT.

07:04:33 THE PROJECT ITSELF IS -- WE SORT OF INHERENTLY IN OUR

07:04:37 DESIGNS PURSUE A LOT OF MATERIALS THAT HAVE RESILIENCE

07:04:40 BEHIND THEM AND, OF COURSE, WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH

07:04:43 THE NEWER FLORIDA ENERGY CODE IN THE DESIGN.

07:04:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS SOME GUIDANCE FOR US AS WE GO

07:04:52 FORWARD WITH ANY POSSIBLE CHANGES, TYLER, MAYBE YOU CAN

07:05:02 ARRANGE SOME MEETINGS WITH MR. ROLLINS AND HIS TEAM, NOT

07:05:06 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, LONG DONE WITH THIS REZONING TO

07:05:10 TALK ABOUT INCENTIVES AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT CAN

07:05:12 GET THESE PROJECTS TO BE LEED CERTIFIED.

07:05:15 OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

07:05:18 IT LOOKS LIKE RYAN IS UP.

07:05:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE.

07:05:23 >>RYAN MANASSE: REAL FAST.

07:05:25 FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS

07:05:28 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE, AND THE RETAIL SALES

07:05:30 CONVENIENCE GOODS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE YOU THROUGH THIS

07:05:32 PD REZONING, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT

07:05:36 DORMITORIES AND STUDENT HOUSING, BUT THAT'S NOT REGULATED

07:05:39 THROUGH THIS LAND USE.

07:05:39 IT IS FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

07:05:41 JUST TO QUICKLY COMMENT ON THE SPECIFICS OF THE DESIGNS

07:05:44 AND THE LEED, THAT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THIS REZONING AS




07:05:46 WELL, JUST FOR THE RECORD.

07:05:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

07:05:48 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

07:05:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

07:05:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:05:51 I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE WHOLE SCOPE AND LISTENING TO

07:05:56 EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.

07:05:59 LET ME SEE IF I CAN FOLLOW THE WHOLE THING CORRECTLY.

07:06:02 THE APPLICANT, 150 DWELLING UNITS, 1,675 SQUARE FOOT

07:06:09 CONVENIENCE GOODS AND RETAIL.

07:06:11 257,966 STORAGE WITH ATTACHED PARKING GARAGE.

07:06:16 THAT'S FINE AND DANDY.

07:06:18 I APPRECIATE THAT.

07:06:18 I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT OF BRINGING BUILDINGS THAT ARE

07:06:24 CLOSE TO THE UNIVERSITY AND DOWNTOWN TO BRING BACK THE

07:06:30 AREA HOW IT WAS WAY BACK.

07:06:32 EVERYBODY WALKS.

07:06:35 NOBODY HAD MONEY TO BUY A CAR.

07:06:39 THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

07:06:43 WHEN I LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, THE APPLICANT IS

07:06:45 REQUESTING A 13% PARKING WAIVER AND A WAIVER OF TREES

07:06:50 RETAINED ON NON-WOODED SITE FROM 50 TO 0.

07:06:54 WHAT DOES THAT SHOW ME?

07:06:55 WHAT DOES THAT TELL ME?

07:06:56 AND THEN COMPARE THIS SITE WITH OTHER SITES THAT ARE




07:07:01 SIMILAR TO THE SITE THEY WANT TO BUILD.

07:07:04 I'M HAPPY THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.

07:07:06 HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THAT, AND IF I USE THIS AS A

07:07:10 MODEL, JUST LIKE THEY USE THE SITE THEY CREATED FOR A

07:07:14 MODEL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE?

07:07:16 ARE WE GOING TO HAVE BUILDINGS WITH ZERO PLANTS FROM 50%

07:07:22 TO 0% REDUCTION.

07:07:24 IS THAT WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS?

07:07:26 WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN SAID, AND YOU LOOK -- AND I'M

07:07:30 NOT HERE TO SAY ANYTHING.

07:07:32 I THINK THE PEOPLE ARE GREAT PEOPLE.

07:07:34 BELIEVE ME, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT A BUILDING SITE AND I SAY,

07:07:38 HOW CAN I MAXIMIZE MY RETURN AND THAT'S WHAT BUSINESS IS

07:07:42 ALL ABOUT.

07:07:43 IT'S ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME.

07:07:46 AND THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME, WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT THING

07:07:49 OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

07:07:50 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND YOU

07:07:54 MAXIMIZE THE WHOLE AREA, WHAT YOU NEED FOR YOURSELF AND

07:07:59 THANK GOD YOU NEED IT.

07:08:00 THEN WHAT'S LEFT?

07:08:01 ARE WE GOING TO USE THIS AS A BUILDING MODEL FOR

07:08:05 SOMETHING ELSE THAT COMES DOWN THE LINE JUST LIKE THEY

07:08:07 USE THE OTHER FIVE, SIX, SEVEN THAT WERE THERE.

07:08:09 AND THINGS HAVE A WAY OF CHANGING IN LIFE, AND I




07:08:14 APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SAYING WALKABILITY AND BICYCLE, AND

07:08:17 THE MORE WE SAY THAT, MORE EXPRESS LANES ARE BUILT AND

07:08:22 MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.

07:08:23 I HAVE A CONFLICT WITHIN MY SELF TO PROVE THE FACT IT'S

07:08:27 TRUE OR NOT SO TRUE.

07:08:28 DO PEOPLE WANT TO WALK?

07:08:30 YES.

07:08:30 PEOPLE WANT TO RIDE BIKE?

07:08:32 YES.

07:08:33 EVIDENTLY, THEY ARE STILL WANTING CARS BECAUSE THE

07:08:36 EXPRESSWAYS GO FROM TWO LANES TO THREE LANES TO FOUR

07:08:40 LANES TO FIVE LANES.

07:08:41 THERE'S SOME DOUBT IN MY MIND -- AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT

07:08:45 RELATE TO THIS PARTICULAR ZONING.

07:08:47 BUT WHAT DOES RELATE TO THE ZONING IS IF I MAXIMIZE THE

07:08:51 TOTAL FOOTPRINT TO WHAT I NEED TO WHAT'S LEFT, THE TREES

07:08:58 DON'T HAVE A CHANCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR

07:09:02 THE ROOTS TO GROW.

07:09:04 BUT MY BUILDING BECAUSE I WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE RETURN.

07:09:09 GOD BLESS YOU, I AGREE WITH YOU.

07:09:11 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, IT'S GOT TO BE A ZONING

07:09:14 AMENDMENT CHANGED OR SOMETHING THAT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD

07:09:17 SOMETHING LIKE THIS, GOD BLESS YOU.

07:09:20 BUT DON'T COME AND ASK FOR PERCENTAGES I'M GOING TO PAY

07:09:25 INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND AND I'M GOING TO DO THIS AND I'M




07:09:29 GOING TO DO -- THAT'S WONDERFUL.

07:09:31 BUT -- WHETHER RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.

07:09:37 IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO PERCENTAGES BE KEPT IN A

07:09:41 MINIMUM, NOT A MAXIMUM.

07:09:42 AND THIS IS THE THING THAT I'M LISTENING TO ALL,

07:09:46 EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID.

07:09:48 IF I USE THIS AS SOMETHING GOING FORWARD, IT'S NOT GOING

07:09:52 TO LOOK TOO NICE WHEN IT'S ALL COMPLETED BECAUSE THERE

07:09:56 WILL BE NO TREES.

07:09:57 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

07:10:02 >> IF I CAN RESPOND.

07:10:03 YOUR CONCERN IS VERY WELL TAKEN.

07:10:06 THE INTENT AND THE EFFECT IS, THIS WILL NOT BE A BARREN

07:10:11 WASTELAND.

07:10:12 OUR WAIVER REQUEST IS GOING FROM KEEPING 50% OF THE TREES

07:10:15 THERE TO KEEPING NONE OF THE EXISTING TREES BECAUSE THE

07:10:19 DOG DAY CARE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE SHAPE OF OUR

07:10:22 BUILDING.

07:10:23 BUT, WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND LIKE RICKY AND BILL TO

07:10:26 DISCUSS IS HOW MUCH EFFORT HAS GONE INTO PLANT NEW TREES

07:10:28 AND NOT JUST SCRAGGLY TREES, BUT HIGH-QUALITY TREES THAT

07:10:33 COST A SIGNIFICANT MORE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAINTAIN.

07:10:36 RICKY, IF YOU WOULD START WITH THAT AND MAYBE BILL IF YOU

07:10:39 WOULDN'T MIND RESPONDING AFTER RICKY.

07:10:42 >> YES.




07:10:42 TO PROVIDE A MORE VIABLE TREE PLANTING WITH THE SCREEN

07:10:46 SPACE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED, WE'RE PUTTING EXTRA

07:10:49 INVESTMENT IN THE SOIL TO SUPPORT THESE TREES AND

07:10:52 PROVIDING LARGER TREES AND SPECIFICALLY SELECTED

07:10:56 CULTIVARS OF TREES TO SUCCEED IN THIS CONDITION.

07:11:02 ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL BE PROPOSING TREE PLANTINGS AROUND

07:11:05 THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMMUNITY

07:11:09 RESIDENTS.

07:11:11 WHILE IT MAY NOT MEET THE LETTER OF THE REPLACEMENT DUE

07:11:15 TO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL GETS

07:11:18 THE BENEFIT OF THE TREE PLANTINGS AS WE'RE -- THE WAY

07:11:21 WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS, COUNCILMAN.

07:11:26 >> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THE INTENT HERE IS AT HUMAN

07:11:32 SCALE, PEOPLE THAT WALK AND DRIVE BY, IT'S GOING TO BE A

07:11:38 VERY LUSH TREE CANOPY.

07:11:40 IN ORDER TO GET THAT, WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO CREATE

07:11:45 ADEQUATE ROOTING SPACE SO THESE TREES CAN GROW TO

07:11:48 MATURITY.

07:11:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

07:11:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

07:12:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH MR. ROLLINS A

07:12:05 SECOND.

07:12:06 I DON'T KNOW MR. ROLLINS, BUT HE'S A GATOR, SO HE MUST BE

07:12:10 A GOOD GUY.

07:12:12 WHAT I'M FEELING -- AND MAYBE YOU CAN PUT UP THAT DRAWING




07:12:21 AGAIN.

07:12:21 I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS CONTROL OF THAT.

07:12:23 >> I CAN DO THAT, COUNCILMAN.

07:12:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE WHOLE STREETSCAPE.

07:12:30 THE FEEL THAT I GET HERE IS A VERY URBAN FEEL.

07:12:39 VERY MUCH LIKE OUR BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN WHICH I WOULD SAY

07:12:43 PROBABLY MOST OF THEM ARE ZERO LOT LINE TO A GREAT

07:12:48 EXTENT.

07:12:48 I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER HERE AS WE JUMP ACROSS THE

07:12:52 RIVER IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT URBAN -- ENVIRONMENT TO A

07:13:01 0 LOT LINE.

07:13:03 NOW, IF THERE WAS NO CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY TO PLANT THESE

07:13:06 TREES AND THEY ASKED FOR A ZERO LOT LINE, I HAVE A BIG

07:13:09 PROBLEM WITH THIS.

07:13:10 I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH IT AND WOULD VOTE NO

07:13:18 INEVITABLY.

07:13:20 BUT THE FACT FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE SEEMS TO BE AN

07:13:24 ADEQUATE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AT LEAST ON THE TWO STREETS THAT

07:13:27 WE CAN SEE HERE, AND I'M GOING TO PRESUME THE THIRD

07:13:30 STREET AS WELL, TO PLANT A NICE BUFFER OF TREES, STILL

07:13:34 HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE SIDEWALK, AND STILL HAVE A FUNCTIONAL

07:13:39 STREET.

07:13:39 AND IN LIGHT OF THAT, I CAN LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT THEY

07:13:45 WANT TO MAXIMIZE THEIR FOOTPRINT ON THE PROPERTY AND

07:13:48 CREATE A VERY URBAN -- A VERY URBAN LOOK.




07:13:51 MR. ROLLINS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON ANY OF THAT.

07:13:57 >> NO, I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE CHARACTER.

07:13:59 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE PREEXISTING LAND

07:14:02 USES.

07:14:05 WHILE I DO RESPECT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE KIND OF SCALE

07:14:08 AND URBANISM OF THE PROJECT, I THINK WE'RE IN A UNIQUE

07:14:11 LOCATION BEING THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THIS DISTRICT AND

07:14:18 BORDERING ON THE UNIVERSITY AND THEN OUR DOWNTOWN.

07:14:20 SO WE REALLY SEE THIS AREA -- IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THE

07:14:24 LAND USE DESIGN ON THIS SITE, BUT YOU DON'T SEE

07:14:27 DESIGNATED AT SITES FURTHER WEST AS SCALES DO START TO

07:14:31 STEP DOWN.

07:14:31 BUT THIS REALLY DOES STRIKE US AS A PARTICULAR BUFFER

07:14:33 POINT BETWEEN A LOT OF URBAN AND EDUCATIONAL AREAS AND A

07:14:38 DEVELOPING MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD.

07:14:40 AND, OF COURSE, WE ALL, YOU KNOW, HAVE A HOPEFUL FUTURE

07:14:42 FOR WHAT THAT CSX RAIL COULD BE THROUGH OUR CITY ONE DAY

07:14:46 AS WELL.

07:14:48 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND MIRANDA, ONE POINT, A LOT OF

07:14:51 THE EFFORT THAT WE WENT INTO TO TRY TO MAKE THIS WORK

07:14:56 FROM A NATURAL RESOURCES PERSPECTIVE, AND WE'RE VERY

07:14:58 PLEASED WITH THE POSITION WE GOT TO, WAS ALSO MOTIVATED

07:15:02 BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST.

07:15:04 THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS REALLY ONE MIND, NORTH HYDE PARK

07:15:07 ALLIANCE.




07:15:07 THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE NEIGHBORS WE

07:15:10 SPOKE TO ABOUT, THEY LIKE THE URBAN CANOPY IN THAT

07:15:13 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT IS WHY WE'VE GONE -- WOULDN'T SAY

07:15:16 HERCULEAN, BUT THE SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS WE HAVE TO PROMOTE

07:15:19 THE KIND OF CANOPY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

07:15:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

07:15:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

07:15:25 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

07:15:27 HEARING AND SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC

07:15:32 THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

07:15:37 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

07:15:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN PERSON ON THE

07:15:41 SECOND FLOOR?

07:15:44 >> AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.

07:15:47 NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

07:15:49 THANK YOU.

07:15:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

07:15:51 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

07:15:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

07:15:54 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:15:55 ANY OPPOSED?

07:15:56 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THIS ITEM, NUMBER

07:16:00 3.

07:16:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-87, ORDINANCE BEING

07:16:07 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE




07:16:10 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 311 NORTH

07:16:12 NEWPORT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE

07:16:15 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

07:16:17 CLASSIFICATION IG (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL) TO PD (PLANNED

07:16:22 DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES,

07:16:25 CONVENIENCE GOODS); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

07:16:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

07:16:29 >> SECOND.

07:16:30 >> SECOND.

07:16:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?

07:16:32 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND, VIERA.

07:16:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS COUNCILMAN GUDES WISHES TO

07:16:36 ELABORATE A BIT BASED ON SOME FINDINGS RELATIVE TO THIS.

07:16:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

07:16:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE AN ORDINANCE, SHOWN ON REVISION

07:16:48 SHEET AS APPLICANT HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF, PROVIDE

07:16:52 COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AS

07:16:54 CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH

07:16:56 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITY CODE AND ADOPTED FINDINGS AND

07:17:00 READINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, STAFF REPORT.

07:17:02 CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE OBJECTIVE 2.1, POLICIES TO

07:17:07 ENCOURAGE -- HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH ITS

07:17:11 SURROUNDING CHARACTER AND THE USE LAND RESOURCES MORE

07:17:14 EFFECTIVELY.

07:17:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM CARLSON.




07:17:18 CAN WE GET A ROLL-CALL VOTE.

07:17:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

07:17:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:17:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

07:17:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

07:17:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SUPPORT IT IN FIRST READING.

07:17:30 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SECOND READING.

07:17:32 THANK YOU.

07:17:35 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

07:17:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

07:17:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:17:41 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

07:17:43 SECOND READING --

07:17:45 >> CAN YOU SEE ME?

07:17:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

07:17:47 IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY.

07:17:49 WE'VE GOT YOU.

07:17:49 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

07:17:51 SECONDING READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4 AT

07:17:54 9:30 A.M.

07:17:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

07:17:55 NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 4, MR. MANASSE.

07:17:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.

07:18:01 RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

07:18:02 ITEM NUMBER 4 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-68 FOR THE PROPERTY




07:18:06 LOCATED AT 114 WEST ALFRED STREET.

07:18:09 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS REZONING FROM RS 50 RESIDENTIAL

07:18:13 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR DETACHED

07:18:16 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

07:18:16 I'LL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.

07:18:19 AND IF YOU'D PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

07:18:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

07:18:21 GO AHEAD, MS. MALONE.

07:18:23 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING

07:18:28 COMMISSION.

07:18:29 I AM SHARING MY SCREEN.

07:18:30 IT SHOULD BE UP NOW.

07:18:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN SEE IT.

07:18:32 >>JENNIFER MALONE: GREAT.

07:18:33 THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIRMATION, CHAIR.

07:18:35 THIS IS WITHIN THE -- WE'RE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS RIGHT NOW.

07:18:39 THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.

07:18:46 THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION.

07:18:48 IT IS MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.

07:18:50 WE HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND NO ADVERSE

07:18:54 IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

07:18:55 I WILL POINT OUT WE DID A DENSITY ANALYSIS AND IT'S ON A

07:18:59 STREET BETWEEN NORTH OLA AVENUE AND THE EASTERN TERMINUS

07:19:03 OF WEST ALFRED STREET.

07:19:04 THERE IS AN EXISTING DENSITY OF 10.15 DWELLING UNITS PER




07:19:10 ACRE.

07:19:10 THAT IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE

07:19:13 OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL 10.

07:19:15 THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF IN AN OLDER AREA

07:19:19 OF THE CITY.

07:19:20 THIS WAS DEVELOPED -- THE STREET WAS DEVELOPED BETWEEN

07:19:23 MODERN -- BEFORE MODERN PLANNING AND ZONING.

07:19:25 BUT THE SITE ITSELF WITH THIS REQUEST WILL HAVE AN

07:19:28 OVERALL DENSITY OF 9.64 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS

07:19:32 CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD DENSITY AND

07:19:35 WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION,

07:19:38 I'LL ALSO POINT OUT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA IT

07:19:40 TRANSITIONS TO RESIDENTIAL 20 TO THE EAST.

07:19:42 THAT IS THAT DARKER BROWN COLOR, AND THEN FURTHER EAST

07:19:45 ALONG NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE IT IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35

07:19:48 IN THE RED.

07:19:49 BUT OVERALL, WE FOUND THAT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WOULD

07:19:51 BE REDEVELOPED WITHIN THE EXISTING STREET, BLOCK, AND LOT

07:19:54 CONFIGURATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

07:19:56 IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE POLICIES PROVIDING HOUSING

07:19:59 FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.

07:20:01 IT IS CONSISTENT AND COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE

07:20:05 SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WE FOUND IT

07:20:07 CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.

07:20:07 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.




07:20:09 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

07:20:11 THANK YOU.

07:20:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

07:20:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

07:20:19 MS. MALONE, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE -- AND I DON'T

07:20:22 KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE

07:20:26 PD SITE PLAN YET.

07:20:27 SO I'M TOTALLY GOING TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND.

07:20:30 BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.

07:20:33 YOU SAID THAT -- OR DID YOU SAY THAT THE LAND USE

07:20:36 CATEGORY IS R-10?

07:20:39 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT'S CORRECT.

07:20:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THIS EXCEEDS R-10?

07:20:43 I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IT WAS INHERENTLY INCONSISTENT FOR

07:20:47 A PROJECT TO EXCEED THE LAND USE CATEGORY.

07:20:49 HOW DOES THAT -- I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ADDITIONAL

07:20:54 POLICIES SUPPORTING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BUT I THOUGHT

07:20:58 THE MAX WAS MAX, AND YET THEY HAVE EXCEED THE MAX.

07:21:02 HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN AND WHY IS THAT NOT SETTING A BAD

07:21:05 PRECEDENT?

07:21:06 >>JENNIFER MALONE: FOR THE RECORD, THE PROJECT IS NOT

07:21:08 EXCEEDING THE MAX.

07:21:09 I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY CONFUSION.

07:21:11 IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED AT AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 9.64

07:21:15 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE, WHICH IS BELOW THE 10.




07:21:18 THE STREET ITSELF HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AT 10.15.

07:21:24 WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE FUTURE LAND USE.

07:21:27 HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS AN OLDER AREA OF THE CITY THAT

07:21:29 WAS PRIMARILY DEVELOPED BEFORE WE HAD FUTURE LAND USE,

07:21:32 THE STREET AVERAGES OUT TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT

07:21:35 THE PROJECT ITSELF IS WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE

07:21:37 DESIGNATION.

07:21:38 I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY CONFUSION.

07:21:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY FOR MY CONFUSION.

07:21:43 THAT ONE UP FOR IDEA IS OUT AT ME.

07:21:45 LIKE ALARM BELLS GOING OFF.

07:21:46 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I UNDERSTAND.

07:21:47 THANK YOU.

07:21:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

07:21:50 MR. MANASSE.

07:21:51 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU.

07:21:52 IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.

07:21:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, WE CAN SEE IT.

07:21:54 GO AHEAD.

07:21:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: EXCELLENT.

07:21:56 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE REZ 20-68, PROPERTY LOCATION

07:22:00 AGAIN IS 114 WEST ALFRED STREET AND THE REQUEST BEFORE

07:22:03 YOU RS-50 TO PD FOR DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

07:22:07 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS PETITION.

07:22:13 AGAIN, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO HAVE ONE SINGLE-FAMILY




07:22:17 DETACHED RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT FOR THIS PLANNED

07:22:19 DEVELOPMENT.

07:22:20 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED THREE LOTS EAST OF NORTH HIGHLAND

07:22:23 AVENUE AND WEST ALFRED INTERSECTIONS.

07:22:25 APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A TWO-STORY RESIDENCE

07:22:27 WITH A DESIGN WHICH INCORPORATES A ONE-CAR GARAGE.

07:22:30 THE SITE ITSELF CONTAINS 4,725 SQUARE FEET WITH A LOT

07:22:35 WIDTH OF 45 FEET AND DEPARTMENT OF 105 FEET.

07:22:38 THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF

07:22:41 50 AND MINIMUM LOT AREA IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

07:22:44 THE SITE DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM RS-50 REQUIREMENTS.

07:22:47 THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS REQUEST TO BE BEFORE -- OR TO BE

07:22:49 APPROVED IS TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU AS A PLANNED

07:22:52 DEVELOPMENT FOR A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.

07:22:53 THE PROPOSED PD SETBACKS ARE NORTH 20 FEET, SOUTH 20

07:22:58 FEET, EAST 6 FEET, AND WEST 6 FEET.

07:23:01 WITH A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.

07:23:04 THE SURROUNDING USES ARE ALL DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY

07:23:07 RESIDENTS IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.

07:23:09 AND THEN WE DID DO A STAFF ANALYSIS ON THIS.

07:23:14 THE MAP OF ADAMS PLACE SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED

07:23:18 IN 1916 WITH LOTS VARIED IN WIDTH FROM 45 FEET TO 52.5

07:23:21 FEET IN LENGTH, AND -- I'M SORRY, IN WIDTHS, AND THEN IN

07:23:26 LENGTHS, 90 FEET TO 105 FEET.

07:23:30 SIX BLOCKS AND THE SUBJECT PARCEL LOCATED ON BLOCK 4 OF




07:23:32 THE SUBDIVISION, LOT TWO.

07:23:34 THE SUBJECT APPLICATION SEEKS TO REESTABLISH THE

07:23:37 ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOTS AND CREATE ONE BUILDABLE LOT.

07:23:40 IN ADDITION, THE SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED IN BETWEEN NORTH

07:23:42 TAMPA STREET AND NORTH OLA AVENUE, NORTH OF WEST COLUMBUS

07:23:46 DRIVE.

07:23:47 THE OVERALL AREA, 297 TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND 80% OR --

07:23:52 SORRY, 80 OR 27% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A

07:23:56 WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.

07:23:58 PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT

07:24:02 PATTERN, THE SUBJECT LOT CONTAINS EIGHT TOTAL ZONING LOTS

07:24:06 AND 3 OR 37% OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH

07:24:09 OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 5, OR 63% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED

07:24:13 WITH THAT WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.

07:24:15 THE HUNDRED BLOCK OF WEST ALFRED STREET, WHICH IS ON BOTH

07:24:20 SIDES OF THE STREET, CONTAIN NINE TOTAL ZONING LOTS AND

07:24:22 TWO, OR 22% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A

07:24:25 WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 7, OR 78%, HAVE BEEN

07:24:29 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.

07:24:32 THE BLOCK BASE ITSELF CONTAINS TWO OTHER ZONING LOTS, AND

07:24:36 ZERO, OR ZERO PERCENT OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED

07:24:38 WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR GREATER, AND TWO HAVE BEEN

07:24:41 DEVELOPED WITH THAT WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS.

07:24:43 THIS IS THE CONFORMING MAP THAT WAS PLACED IN YOUR STAFF

07:24:49 REPORTS AS WELL.




07:24:49 AS YOU CAN SEE, I CAN ZOOM IN, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO, TO

07:24:53 GET OVER TO THE -- AS FAR AS IT'S GOING UNLESS IT'S

07:24:58 LAGGING -- SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN BLACK HERE AND

07:25:00 HATCHED.

07:25:02 SO THESE ARE THE SUBJECT SITES, AS YOU CAN SEE, IF I ZOOM

07:25:04 BACK OUT, THE COLORS THAT ARE THIS LIGHT -- LIGHTER

07:25:09 GRAY-BLUE, AND THEN THESE LIGHT BLUES AND GRAYS ARE ALL

07:25:13 PARCELS THAT ARE 49 FEET OR LESS.

07:25:15 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BLOCK BASE, AS WELL AS THE BLOCK

07:25:18 ITSELF, DO MEET THAT CRITERIA.

07:25:21 HERE'S THE PD SITE PLAN ITSELF.

07:25:25 THE ELEVATION IS ON THE LEFT SIDE AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY

07:25:28 DWELLING DETACHED WITH THE SETBACKS LISTED.

07:25:31 THE DRIVEWAY WITH THE ENCLOSED GARAGE.

07:25:34 THE AERIAL SHOWS THAT THERE IS A LOCAL ZION CHURCH,

07:25:41 HISTORIC LANDMARK WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.

07:25:43 AGAIN, THAT RADIUS IS LIGHTER GREEN DASHED LINE.

07:25:46 THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE OUTLINED IN RED.

07:25:49 HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE ON THE LEFT AND THEN ON

07:25:54 THE RIGHT, WEST OF THE SITE.

07:25:55 BELOW THAT IS EAST OF THE SITE.

07:25:57 ALL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.

07:26:01 SORRY, MY CAMERA IS BLOCKING MY VIEW.

07:26:02 THEY ARE ALL NORTH OF THE SITE.

07:26:05 FORGIVE ME.




07:26:07 SO ALL THREE ARE NORTH.

07:26:08 SO THAT WOULD BE LOOKING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET,

07:26:10 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.

07:26:12 AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND

07:26:16 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION.

07:26:18 WE DO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND

07:26:20 DEVELOPMENT CODE.

07:26:21 IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS

07:26:23 APPLICATION, THERE ARE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN

07:26:26 FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT ARE REQUIRED, AND THEY ARE

07:26:28 SHOWN ON THE REVISION SHEET.

07:26:30 IT IS APPROVED, IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THE REVISION SHEET

07:26:33 IN THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE.

07:26:34 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

07:26:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

07:26:38 TIME?

07:26:38 NO.

07:26:41 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT ON THE LINE?

07:26:42 I BELIEVE WE HAVE KELSEY DUNCAN.

07:26:46 IF SHE'S ON THE LINE, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE AND

07:26:55 CAMERA AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

07:26:57 >> HI.

07:26:57 I'M HERE.

07:26:58 I'M TRYING TO TURN ON MY CAMERA, MY WEB CAM.

07:27:02 GOT IT.




07:27:07 IT'S ASKING ME TO LEAVE THE MEETING TO ALLOW ME TO USE

07:27:12 THE CAMERA, WHICH IS ODD.

07:27:17 LET'S TRY THIS.

07:27:20 AM I ON?

07:27:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET.

07:27:28 >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

07:27:30 IT MIGHT KICK ME OUT TO LET ME SHOW MY CAMERA, WHICH IS

07:27:43 REALLY ODD.

07:27:43 CAN I COME RIGHT BACK?

07:27:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN, SURE,

07:27:49 WE'LL WAIT A MINUTE.

07:27:50 >> GIVE ME LIKE 20 SECONDS.

07:27:52 123450 WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN IF YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

07:28:42 [OATH ADMINISTERED]

07:28:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU HEAR HER?

07:28:55 YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.

07:28:57 >> THERE WE GO.

07:28:58 YES.

07:28:59 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

07:29:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

07:29:00 GO AHEAD.

07:29:01 YOU HAVE TIME NOW TO PRESENT.

07:29:04 >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS.

07:29:06 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

07:29:08 THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND FOR REVIEWING




07:29:11 THIS.

07:29:12 WE ARE SEEKING TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY JUST TO BUILD A

07:29:16 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE HOMES

07:29:19 AROUND, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR SECOND HEARING.

07:29:21 THANK YOU.

07:29:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

07:29:23 DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

07:29:24 IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

07:29:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

07:29:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. DUNCAN, ON OCCASION, THAT

07:29:37 NEIGHBORHOOD IS FAIRLY ACTIVE AND INVOLVED.

07:29:40 I'M SURE YOU CIRCULATED THE APPROPRIATE NOTICE, INCLUDING

07:29:44 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

07:29:45 DID YOU HEAR FROM ANYBODY IN RESPONSE TO THIS?

07:29:49 >> SO, YES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY ACTIVE.

07:29:52 I'VE BEEN OUT THERE ON MANY OCCASIONS AND TALKED TO A LOT

07:29:55 OF THE NEIGHBORS FIRSTHAND ABOUT THE PROJECT.

07:29:56 THEY ARE EXCITED FOR IT.

07:29:57 I DID GET A CALL FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD

07:30:01 DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY.

07:30:03 HE WAS CURIOUS WHY WE NEEDED TO EVEN GET A PD BECAUSE HE

07:30:06 WAS ALSO ON A PROPERTY LESS THAN 50 FEET IN WIDTH.

07:30:09 BUT HE JUST VOICED HIS SUPPORT AND ASKED TO SEE THE SITE

07:30:17 PLAN WHEN WE WERE DONE WITH THEM.

07:30:19 I THINK HE WAS EXCITED FOR A MODERN BUILD TO COME INTO




07:30:22 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

07:30:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:30:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

07:30:25 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC -- ANYBODY REGISTERED TO

07:30:28 SPEAK?

07:30:30 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

07:30:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

07:30:34 >> THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

07:30:37 THANK YOU.

07:30:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE?

07:30:38 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

07:30:40 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

07:30:41 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:30:42 AYE.

07:30:42 ANY OPPOSED?

07:30:43 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS ITEM

07:30:45 NUMBER 4?

07:30:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.

07:30:49 THANK YOU.

07:30:49 LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 20-68, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED

07:30:53 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING

07:30:55 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 114 WEST ALFRED

07:30:59 STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE

07:31:02 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT

07:31:04 CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD




07:31:08 (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY

07:31:10 DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND INCLUDING THE

07:31:13 REVISION SHEET AND BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS

07:31:17 CONSISTENT WITH THE LOCAL HOUSING POLICIES THAT IT'S

07:31:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALSO WITH THE

07:31:26 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

07:31:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

07:31:31 CARLSON.

07:31:32 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

07:31:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

07:31:34 ROLL-CALL VOTE.

07:31:35 >>THE CLERK: CITRO?

07:31:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

07:31:36 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

07:31:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

07:31:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

07:31:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

07:31:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

07:31:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

07:31:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

07:31:49 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

07:31:53 AT 9:30 A.M.

07:31:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:31:57 ITEM NUMBER 5.

07:31:58 MR. MANASSE.




07:31:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

07:32:02 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS FILE REZ 20-92.

07:32:05 IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5430 AND 5440 WEST TYSON

07:32:10 AVENUE.

07:32:10 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM IH,

07:32:14 INDUSTRIAL HEAVY, TO PD, FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR

07:32:17 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, RESTAURANT, AND RETAIL SALES

07:32:20 SHOPPERS GOODS USES.

07:32:21 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT.

07:32:24 AND IF YOU'D PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

07:32:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

07:32:26 GO AHEAD.

07:32:27 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING

07:32:29 COMMISSION.

07:32:30 I AM SHARING MY SCREEN SO IT SHOULD BE UP IN JUST A

07:32:33 MOMENT.

07:32:33 I BELIEVE YOU CAN SEE IT NOW.

07:32:35 THIS IS 20-92 AS RYAN STATED.

07:32:37 IT IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.

07:32:40 IT IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND EVACUATION

07:32:42 A.

07:32:45 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ON WEST TYSON.

07:32:47 IT IS AT THE END OF WEST TYSON.

07:32:50 THERE'S A VARIETY OF USES ON WEST TYSON AS I'M SURE THIS

07:32:53 BOARD IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT RANGES FROM INDUSTRIAL




07:32:57 USES, RESIDENTIAL USES, COMMERCIAL, THERE'S A RESTAURANT

07:33:01 IN THIS AREA AS WELL.

07:33:02 THIS IS A ZOOMED-OUT VERSION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP

07:33:07 TO JUST KIND OF SHOW THE PATTERN ALONG RATTLESNAKE POINT.

07:33:11 THE DARK BLACK COLOR IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE

07:33:15 THAT'S PRESENT IN THE AREA, BUT THAT PINK COLOR IS

07:33:18 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, WHICH IS WHAT THE SUBJECT SITE

07:33:21 IS.

07:33:22 SO IT IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.

07:33:26 UNDER THIS DESIGNATION, PROJECTS MAY BE DETERMINED BY

07:33:29 EITHER DENSITY OR FLOOR AREA RATIO, WHICHEVER CALCULATION

07:33:33 IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE DEVELOPER.

07:33:34 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN F.A.R. OF 0.88.

07:33:38 THAT IS BENEATH THE MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED WITHIN

07:33:42 THIS DESIGNATION.

07:33:44 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION CAN GO UP TO A 1.0

07:33:48 BY RIGHT AND THEN ALL THE WAY UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R. WITH

07:33:51 SOME BONUSES.

07:33:53 0.88 IS WELL WITHIN THAT INTENSITY WE ANTICIPATE IN THIS

07:33:58 DESIGNATION.

07:33:58 THIS AREA HAS BEEN TRANSITIONING FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL

07:34:02 WORKING WATERFRONT TO A MIXTURES OF INDUSTRIAL

07:34:06 RESIDENTIAL USES GUIDED BY THE POLICY DIRECTION IN THE

07:34:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

07:34:09 THERE IS AN ENTIRE SECTION OF TEXT RELATED TO THE




07:34:12 WATERFRONT OF RATTLESNAKE POINT AREA AND THAT TRANSITION

07:34:17 THAT WILL OCCUR.

07:34:18 WE FOUND THAT THE APPLICANT MET THE POLICIES IN THE PLAN

07:34:22 THAT RELATE TO THIS.

07:34:23 THERE IS A PUBLIC PATHWAY TO THE WATERFRONT, WHICH IS

07:34:27 SOMETHING THAT IS MET -- THAT IS CALLED FOR AND MET.

07:34:31 I WILL SAY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND.

07:34:40 THE DESIGN OF THE SITE TYPICALLY WITHIN THESE DISTRICTS,

07:34:42 WE ENCOURAGE THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR TOWNHOMES AND

07:34:45 MULTIFAMILY ORIENTED TO ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

07:34:50 APPLICANT WILL DESCRIBE WEST TYSON IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND

07:34:54 ALSO NEED FOR ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE

07:34:56 STILL MEETING THAT INTENT WITH THE DESIGN THAT THEY HAVE

07:34:58 PROPOSED.

07:34:58 SO WE HAVE FOUND THIS CONSISTENT.

07:35:00 WE FOUND THAT IT WILL COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT

07:35:03 PATTERN, AND IT IS FOLLOWING THOSE RATTLESNAKE POINT

07:35:07 POLICIES AS SET OUT IN THE PLAN.

07:35:09 I WOULD STATE ONE THING FOR THE RECORD.

07:35:12 NOTE 12 READS THAT ON THE SITE PLAN, NOTE 12, READS THAT

07:35:17 HURRICANE EVACUATION, SLASH, MITIGATION PAYMENT, UNQUOTE,

07:35:23 WE ARE JUST REQUESTING THAT THE APPLICANT REVISE BETWEEN

07:35:26 FIRST AND SECOND READING TO HURRICANE EVACUATION AND

07:35:29 SHELTER SPACE MITIGATION PAYMENT TO BE MORE CONSISTENT

07:35:33 WITH POLICY -- LAND USE POLICY 8.11.7.




07:35:38 THEY HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THAT SHELTER SPACE AND WE JUST

07:35:41 WOULD LIKE THAT VERBIAGE TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR

07:35:43 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND WE HAVE LET THE

07:35:45 APPLICANT KNOW THIS AND HAD A DISCUSSION ON THIS POINT.

07:35:48 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

07:35:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

07:35:51 TIME?

07:35:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

07:35:56 MS. MALONE, IS THE DENSITY -- IS THE PROPOSED DENSITY

07:36:01 GREATER THAN THE SURROUNDING AREAS?

07:36:06 >>JENNIFER MALONE: I WOULD HAVE TO DO A QUICK ANALYSIS OF

07:36:09 THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE ON THOSE

07:36:13 PDs.

07:36:14 BUT I CAN SAY THAT --

07:36:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, I HAVE MIND-SET LISTS FROM

07:36:20 THE LAST ONE.

07:36:21 I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT.

07:36:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MANASSE, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH

07:36:28 YOUR PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

07:36:31 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

07:36:32 >>RYAN MANASSE: I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN.

07:36:34 SO, AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 5 IS FILE REZ 20-92 FOR THE

07:36:38 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5430 AND 5440 WEST TYSON AVENUE.

07:36:41 AGAIN, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS REZONE FROM IH,

07:36:47 INDUSTRIAL HEAVY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY




07:36:49 RESIDENTIAL, RESTAURANT AND RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS.

07:36:54 THIS PETITION IS NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS.

07:36:56 SPECIFICALLY, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 650

07:36:58 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SALES,

07:37:03 SHOPPERS GOODS OR RESTAURANT.

07:37:04 THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 712,299 SQUARE FEET

07:37:10 CONSISTING OF FOUR-STORY -- SORRY, A FOUR SIX STORY

07:37:14 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AND ONE FIVE STORY RESIDENTIAL

07:37:16 STRUCTURE.

07:37:17 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS OR

07:37:20 RESTAURANT.

07:37:20 THE COMMERCIAL PACE IS PROPOSED ON THE NORTH END OF THE

07:37:23 SITE NEAR TYSON, WEST TYSON AVENUE WITH A POOL AND

07:37:26 AMENITIES LOCATED NEAR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.

07:37:29 THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCORPORATE A MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL

07:37:32 AND BOARDWALK, TRAIL, SLASH, BOARDWALK AROUND THE

07:37:35 PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC

07:37:37 ACCESS TO THE WATERWAY.

07:37:38 THE DEVELOPER WILL PROVIDE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE WITHIN THE

07:37:41 PARCEL DIRECTING THE PUBLIC TO THE BOARDWALK PARKING

07:37:44 SPACES.

07:37:45 THE 18.55-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WESTERN END OF

07:37:49 RATTLESNAKE POINT, SOUTH OF WEST TYSON AVENUE.

07:37:51 THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY OPEN WATER TO THE WEST AND

07:37:54 SOUTH.




07:37:54 WATER AND INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE EAST AND IH ZONING

07:37:57 DISTRICT.

07:37:58 AND MIXED COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE NORTH IN

07:38:01 THE IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT.

07:38:03 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS ARE NORTH 20 FEET, SOUTH

07:38:07 20 FEET, EAST 7 FEET, AND WEST 7 FEET.

07:38:10 THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 95 FEET OR SIX STORIES.

07:38:14 AND THE TOTAL OF 1,182 PARKING SPACES OR REQUIRED AND

07:38:18 1,185 PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED.

07:38:21 THERE ARE FIVE LOADING SPACES REQUIRED AND FIVE BEING

07:38:23 PROVIDED AS WELL.

07:38:24 TO FURTHER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE IT KIND OF PLAYS

07:38:27 ON THIS SUMMARY, COUNCILMAN CITRO, THIS PETITION BEFORE

07:38:30 YOU IS SHOWING 650 UNITS AT 18.55 ACRES, WHICH EQUATES TO

07:38:36 35.04 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

07:38:38 SOME OTHER ONES THAT ARE RELATIVELY NEW THAT WE DISCUSSED

07:38:43 AT LAST CITY COUNCIL AS WELL, THERE'S REZONING 20-66,

07:38:47 5301 WEST TYSON AVENUE.

07:38:49 IT WAS FOR 299 UNITS AT 8.37 ACRES, WHICH CAME OUT TO

07:38:53 35.72 ACRES.

07:38:55 A DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

07:38:56 REZONING 1994 -- 19-94 AT 6603 SOUTH TRASK STREET.

07:39:05 THAT WAS 205 UNITS AT 10.51 ACRES.

07:39:08 SO THAT EQUATES TO 19.51 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

07:39:12 REZONING 19-69, 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, 214 UNITS AT




07:39:19 9.31 ACRES, WHICH CAME OUT TO 22.99 DWELLING UNITS PER

07:39:23 ACRE.

07:39:24 AND THEN THERE WAS REZONING 19-77 AT 5105 WEST TYSON

07:39:29 AVENUE.

07:39:29 IT WAS 325 UNITS AT 11.9 ACRES, WHICH EQUATED TO 27.31

07:39:34 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

07:39:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO, MR. MANASSE, WE CAN SEE THIS PROPOSAL

07:39:40 IS MUCH -- THE DENSITY IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE

07:39:42 SURROUNDING AREA?

07:39:44 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE PREVIOUS REZONINGS FROM THIS ONE THAT

07:39:48 I DESCRIBED STARTING AT 66 I BELIEVE WERE ALL DENIED, BUT

07:39:52 THIS ONE, IT EQUATES TO WHAT CMU 35 WOULD ALLOW, WHICH

07:39:57 WOULD BE 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

07:39:58 IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER AT 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

07:40:01 BUT IT'S -- IT HAS MORE ACREAGE AND THERE ARE MORE UNITS

07:40:05 IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE UNIT PER ACREAGE COUNT.

07:40:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.

07:40:11 ONE MORE QUESTION.

07:40:12 WHAT IS THE RATIO OF RETAIL COMPARED TO MULTIFAMILY?

07:40:14 DO YOU KNOW?

07:40:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE.

07:40:18 I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ADDRESS THAT FURTHER, BUT PER

07:40:21 THE STAFF REPORT, THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT 5,000 SQUARE

07:40:25 FEET OF RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS OR RESTAURANT.

07:40:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.




07:40:31 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

07:40:33 >>RYAN MANASSE: JUST TO CONTINUE ON, THE AERIAL -- I'M

07:40:36 SORRY.

07:40:37 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION?

07:40:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

07:40:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND MAKE SURE

07:40:45 THE RECORD IS 100% RIGHT.

07:40:47 RYAN, YOU SAID THAT THE ONES YOU MENTIONED, 35 PER ACRE,

07:40:56 19 PER ACRE, 22 PER ACRE AND 27 PER ACRE, AND THEN YOU

07:40:59 SAID THEY WERE ALL DENIED.

07:41:01 BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

07:41:04 I THINK JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, THEY WERE

07:41:06 DENIED.

07:41:07 THEY WENT INTO -- THREE OF THEM WENT INTO LITIGATION.

07:41:10 THEN THEY CAME BACK AND ULTIMATELY WERE APPROVED AT

07:41:15 CERTAIN LEVEL.

07:41:15 WHEN YOU GAVE US THOSE NUMBERS, WERE THOSE THE NUMBERS

07:41:18 THAT WERE ULTIMATELY APPROVED?

07:41:21 OR WERE THOSE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY CAME IN INITIALLY?

07:41:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WASN'T THE PRESENTER ON THE PREVIOUS

07:41:28 ONES, SO THIS IS SOME OF THE INFORMATION I TRIED TO

07:41:30 GATHER FROM THE LAST COUNCIL JUST TO HAVE INFORMATION

07:41:33 READY.

07:41:34 CATE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP ME.

07:41:36 I BELIEVE THOSE WERE THE -- WOULD BE EITHER, IF THEY




07:41:40 DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE LITIGATION OR --

07:41:45 >>CATE WELLS: I CAN HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT, RYAN.

07:41:46 WITH RESPECT TO THE THREE THAT WENT THROUGH THE FLUEDRA

07:41:49 MEDIATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 70.51 FLORIDA STATUTE.

07:41:54 SO WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT REZ 19-77 AT 5105 WEST

07:41:58 TYSON, REZ 19-69 AT 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, AND REZ

07:42:03 19-94 AT 6603 SOUTH TRASK.

07:42:08 THE UNIT COUNT THAT MR. MANASSE IDENTIFIED AND THE

07:42:12 RESULTING DENSITY WAS THE RESULT FROM THE SETTLEMENT

07:42:17 NEGOTIATIONS AND THE FINAL APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.

07:42:19 THE ONE AT 5301 WEST TYSON, THAT WAS DENIED BY CITY

07:42:27 COUNCIL LAST MONTH.

07:42:28 AND ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, WHEN

07:42:34 THE QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO DENSITY, THE CMU 35 ALLOWS

07:42:39 UP TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE.

07:42:41 IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO ABOVE THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BONUS

07:42:44 BY USING THE F.A.R., WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION BEFORE

07:42:49 YOU.

07:42:50 THANK YOU.

07:42:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

07:42:55 I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT TO THE

07:42:59 PETITION AT HAND.

07:43:00 SO THE 35.72 ACRES AT 5301 TYSON WAS THE ONE NEXT TO THE

07:43:09 CHLORINE PLANT THAT WE DENIED A FEW WEEKS AGO.

07:43:13 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.




07:43:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

07:43:14 THANK YOU, CATE.

07:43:17 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I CAN CONTINUE.

07:43:19 SO THE AERIAL BEFORE YOU IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.

07:43:22 THERE ARE TWO OF THEM.

07:43:23 AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE OUTLINED IN RED.

07:43:25 THERE WERE NO NATIONAL LANDMARKS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.

07:43:29 THAT IS THE OTHER DASHED LINE.

07:43:30 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WEST TYSON AVENUE.

07:43:33 THE SITE PLAN, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF PAGES THAT WERE --

07:43:38 I SENT OVER SOME HARD COPIES AS WELL AS THE DIGITAL

07:43:42 VERSION, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IF YOU DID HAVE

07:43:45 ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, THE GENERAL SITE AREA, AND THEN THE

07:43:48 DEPICTION OF THE RESTAURANT OR RETAIL SPACE AND THEN THE

07:43:51 APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITH THE AMENITY CLUBHOUSE.

07:43:53 AND THEN THE PARKING AND INTERIOR OF THAT.

07:43:55 AND THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE AREA, THE PLANTINGS AND THE

07:44:04 REQUIREMENTS AND SUCH.

07:44:05 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, BILL BORS IS ONLINE.

07:44:08 HE CAN ADDRESS ANY STAFF QUESTIONS.

07:44:10 AND THEN THIS WAS THE ACCESS PLAN FOR FIRE AS WELL AS

07:44:15 SOLID WASTE.

07:44:16 ELEVATIONS, I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW OF THEM, I'LL KIND OF

07:44:21 BLOW THROUGH THEM.

07:44:21 HERE IS THE EAST.




07:44:22 THE NORTH.

07:44:24 EAST.

07:44:25 NORTH ELEVATION, WEST ELEVATION AND SOUTH.

07:44:27 NORTH ON TOP.

07:44:32 SOUTH.

07:44:34 AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING NUMBERS WILL BE OUTLINED

07:44:37 AT THE TOP RIGHT.

07:44:38 EAST ELEVATION, WEST ELEVATION.

07:44:45 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE PHOTOS.

07:44:50 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH, AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING WEST DOWN

07:44:54 THE PRIVATE ACCESS AREA THAT JENNIFER KIND OF TALKED

07:44:57 ABOUT.

07:44:57 TYSON KIND OF ENDS TOWARD THE BEGINNING OF THIS, AND THEN

07:45:00 THIS GETS INTO THE PRIVATE ROADWAY.

07:45:02 NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, PICTURES.

07:45:08 EAST VIEW ON TYSON AVENUE AND TO YOUR LEFT SO THAT WOULD

07:45:13 BE GOING DOWN TOWARDS WESTSHORE.

07:45:15 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF, THE SECOND ADDRESS,

07:45:19 WHICH IS ON THE CORNER, SO DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE

07:45:22 BUILDINGS WOULD BE THE WATERWAY TO THE WEST AND THEN TO

07:45:24 THE SOUTH.

07:45:24 AND THEN THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTH ON THE LEFT, AND

07:45:29 THEN THIS IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE TOWARDS THE WEST

07:45:33 END.

07:45:34 THIS IS THAT RESTAURANT USE THAT'S OVER NORTH OF THE




07:45:36 SUBJECT SITE.

07:45:37 AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER PICTURE OF NORTH OF IT.

07:45:41 THE DIFFERENT USES.

07:45:44 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED

07:45:47 THE PETITION, AND WE DO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY

07:45:49 OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

07:45:52 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS

07:45:53 APPLICATION, THERE ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE

07:45:56 PLAN THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

07:45:59 READING TO INCLUDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE

07:46:02 STATEMENT ABOUT THE HURRICANE EVACUATION, THE SHELTER

07:46:06 WITH THE LAND USE POLICY 8.11.7 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

07:46:11 READING, IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN ANY MOTION, I WOULD

07:46:14 APPRECIATE IT.

07:46:15 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

07:46:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE

07:46:19 APPLICANT?

07:46:20 I SEE THE APPLICANT ONLINE.

07:46:24 WERE YOU SWORN IN, ELISE BATSEL?

07:46:28 >> NO, WE'LL HAVE OUR TEAM COME OVER AND BE SWORN IN,

07:46:32 SIR.

07:46:32 [OATH ADMINISTERED]

07:46:42 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

07:46:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

07:46:44 GO AHEAD.




07:46:46 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

07:46:47 BEFORE WE START, JUST ONE HOUSEKEEPING MATTER.

07:46:50 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT WE

07:46:53 WANT TO ADDRESS FOR COUNCIL.

07:46:55 AND WE WOULD REQUEST POTENTIALLY HAVING AN EXTRA FIVE

07:46:58 MINUTES FOR OUR PRESENTATION.

07:47:00 WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR ISSUES

07:47:03 AND QUESTIONS, AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY SAVE US A LITTLE

07:47:06 TIME IN THE LONG RUN.

07:47:08 WE WOULD APPRECIATE AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES.

07:47:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL?

07:47:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE EXTRA FIVE MINUTES.

07:47:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO GIVE EXTRA FIVE

07:47:20 MINUTES BY MR. MIRANDA -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

07:47:23 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

07:47:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

07:47:25 OKAY.

07:47:27 GO AHEAD.

07:47:29 >> MR. CREW, BEFORE WE START, CAN WE SHARE OUR SCREEN,

07:47:32 PLEASE.

07:47:33 IT WILL BE ON THE SUZANNE WALKER LOG-IN, IF YOU WOULD

07:47:36 ALLOW US TO SHARE OUR SCREEN.

07:47:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

07:47:50 GO AHEAD.

07:47:52 >> THANK YOU.




07:47:53 ELISE BATSEL, STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER.

07:47:56 I'M JOINED THIS EVENING BY THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

07:47:58 THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.

07:48:03 AS YOU HEARD, IT'S 18.55 ACRES.

07:48:06 IT IS WEST OF WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, AND IT'S PART OF THE

07:48:09 OLD GANDY GATEWAY THAT'S BEEN SLATED FOR TRANSITION FROM

07:48:13 INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE SINCE THE 1980s.

07:48:15 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THIS WHOLE

07:48:19 AREA IS -- HAS BEEN DEVELOPING OUT AT COMMERCIAL MIXED

07:48:22 USE-35.

07:48:24 IN ADDITION, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE AREA TO THE NORTHEAST

07:48:27 IS UMU 60.

07:48:30 THAT'S THE WESTSHORE MARINA AND CMU 35 TO THE SOUTH.

07:48:34 BEFORE WE GO OVER THE PROJECT IN DETAIL, I WANT TO SPEAK

07:48:40 PARTICULARLY TO COUNCIL THAT WE, THIS APPLICANT HAD BEEN

07:48:44 LISTENING.

07:48:44 THEY HAVE BEEN LISTENING OVER THE LAST YEAR TO COMMENTS

07:48:46 BY COUNCIL, AND THEY'VE BEEN LISTENING TO COMMENTS FROM

07:48:50 THE COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE YOU WILL SEE THAT A REAL

07:48:52 CONCERTED EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO INCORPORATE ALL OF

07:48:56 THOSE COMMENTS INTO THIS DESIGN.

07:48:58 WE FIRST LISTENED TO YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPERS USING

07:49:02 F.A.R. TO MAX OUT DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS.

07:49:05 WE PROPOSE ON THIS SITE A MAX F.A.R. OF .88.

07:49:09 AND, IN FACT, I SPOKE WITH RYAN MANASSE BEFORE THIS




07:49:12 HEARING AND WE'VE ALSO AGREED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF

07:49:15 UNITS TO 649 JUST SO THAT WE WEREN'T GOING OVER THAT 35

07:49:20 UNITS PER ACRE.

07:49:21 WE DID MEET TWICE WITH THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WITH

07:49:25 MR. BROWN, THE PRESIDENT, TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND ISSUES

07:49:28 ABOUT THE PROJECT.

07:49:29 AND WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF BIKER VENTURES, THE SALT

07:49:33 SHACK, AND OLD DUTCH, WHICH ARE ALL OF OUR SURROUNDING

07:49:37 NEIGHBORS.

07:49:37 WE ALSO LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY'S REQUEST FOR A MIX OF

07:49:41 USES TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A SINGLE PARCEL.

07:49:44 TO THAT END, WE'VE PROPOSED A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT

07:49:47 INCLUDES OVER 2.0 ACRES OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES.

07:49:52 SO COUNCILMAN CITRO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE TOTAL

07:49:56 PERCENTAGE OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES AND MIXED USE FOR THE

07:49:59 SITE IS 10.94 PERCENT OF THE SITE.

07:50:01 TO INTRODUCE THE SITE, WE HAVE FIVE MULTIFAMILY

07:50:06 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.

07:50:08 DUE TO FEMA, THEY WILL BE ELEVATED AND THERE WILL BE

07:50:11 PARKING UNDERNEATH THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

07:50:13 WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC BOARDWALK ALL THE WAY AROUND, THREE

07:50:18 SIDES OF THE PROPERTY ALL ALONG THE WATERFRONT AND WE'LL

07:50:20 ALSO HAVE TRANSIENT BOAT SLIPS SO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC

07:50:24 CAN COME AND VISIT THE SITE.

07:50:26 JUST TO SEE THOSE A LITTLE UP CLOSE, YOU CAN SEE IN THE




07:50:30 RED THIS IS THE AREA THAT'S THE ONE ACRE EITHER

07:50:34 RESTAURANT OR RETAIL FACILITY.

07:50:36 IT'S REALLY UNIQUELY POSITIONED NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE A

07:50:40 COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT, BUT ALSO TO ENHANCE

07:50:43 THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS TO THE WATER.

07:50:45 AND THAT IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE RATTLESNAKE POINT

07:50:50 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES.

07:50:52 SECOND, THE AREAS IN PURPLE ARE THE PUBLIC WATERFRONT

07:50:56 WALKWAY.

07:50:57 THIS WILL BE OPEN, THIS PEDESTRIAN BOARDWALK, YOU'RE

07:51:00 GOING TO SEE SOME RENDERINGS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

07:51:02 BUT IT RUNS 2,097 SQUARE FEET ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY.

07:51:09 AGAIN, ENHANCING THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS TO THE WATER.

07:51:12 FINALLY, THE PROJECT INCLUDES TRANSIENT BOAT DOCKS ON THE

07:51:15 EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.

07:51:17 YOU SEE THOSE IN YELLOW, WHICH WILL ALLOW PEOPLE NOT ONLY

07:51:20 TO DRIVE THEIR CAR TO THE SITE OR WALK OR BIKE TO THE

07:51:23 SITE, BUT ALSO TO BOAT TO THE SITE.

07:51:26 DENSITY AND INTENSITY ARE OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE THAT THIS

07:51:32 COUNCIL IS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED WITH.

07:51:35 WE UNDERSTAND BASED ON THE RECENT WORKSHOPS THAT COUNCIL

07:51:38 MAY BE CHANGING THESE POLICIES LEGISLATIVELY.

07:51:44 TONIGHT, I'LL GO OVER WHAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

07:51:47 WHAT'S PERMITTED BY THE COMP PLAN TODAY, AND WHAT'S

07:51:50 PROPOSED.




07:51:50 FIRST, PERMITTED BY RIGHT TODAY WOULD BE 808,000 SQUARE

07:51:55 FEET PLUS OF OFFICE, RETAIL, OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

07:51:59 THAT'S WITH NO OTHER LAND USE ENTITLEMENT.

07:52:03 THE MAX PERMITTED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS OVER A

07:52:08 MILLION SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

07:52:10 BUT THE MAX THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS .88 FLOOR

07:52:15 AREA RATIO, WHICH EQUATES TO 712,200 SQUARE FEET.

07:52:21 AGAIN, WE'VE AGREED TO BUMP THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 649 SO

07:52:25 THAT YOU FEEL CERTAIN THAT WE'RE STAYING UNDER THE 35

07:52:27 UNITS PER ACRE, AND WE ARE INCLUDING THE 5,000 SQUARE

07:52:32 FEET RETAIL RESTAURANT USE AS PART OF THE MIXED USE

07:52:35 COMPONENT ON THE PROPERTY.

07:52:36 THERE ARE NO WAIVERS ON THIS SITE.

07:52:40 THE APPLICANT WORKED REALLY HARD TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF

07:52:43 TO REALLY MEET EVERY PROVISION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT

07:52:46 CODE SO THAT WE COULD REALLY FOCUS ON THE PROJECT.

07:52:50 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF CITY

07:53:01 COUNCIL'S RECENT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CHANGING AREAS SOUTH

07:53:03 OF GANDY, AND WE UNDERSTAND WHY THIS AREA CALLED

07:53:07 RATTLESNAKE POINT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER AREAS SOUTH OF

07:53:10 GANDY.

07:53:11 AS YOU KNOW, RATTLESNAKE POINT HAS BEEN SLATED TO

07:53:14 TRANSITION FROM INDUSTRIAL TO A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND

07:53:17 COMMERCIAL USES, AND THIS ACTUALLY STARTED BACK IN THE

07:53:20 1980S WHEN IT WAS KNOWN AS THE GANDY GATEWAY.




07:53:24 WE UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE CHAIRMAN MIRANDA CAN EXPAND ON

07:53:27 THIS, BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT WHEN YOU'RE COMING OVER THE

07:53:30 GANDY BRIDGE, WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING INVITING RATHER

07:53:34 THAN A BIG INDUSTRIAL AREA.

07:53:36 SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE PROVISIONS ORIGINALLY CAME INTO THE

07:53:39 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

07:53:40 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS GRAPHIC, THERE HAS BEEN A

07:53:44 TRANSITION OF THE AREA.

07:53:45 I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERY AMENDMENT THAT CITY

07:53:49 COUNCIL HAS APPROVED FROM 2002 TO 2020, BUT THERE HAVE

07:53:53 BEEN 11 AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS BY THIS COUNCIL, NOT TO

07:53:57 MENTION THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES, INCLUDING UMU 60 TO THE

07:54:01 NORTHEAST.

07:54:01 AND ALL OF THESE ACTIONS SOLIDIFY THE TRANSITION THAT IS

07:54:05 ALREADY IN EFFECT FROM INDUSTRIAL TO A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL

07:54:09 AND COMMERCIAL ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.

07:54:11 AND UNLIKE THE OTHER AREAS OF SOUTH GANDY, YOUR

07:54:15 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIES RATTLESNAKE

07:54:20 POINT AS AN AREA FOR INFILL REDEVELOPMENT.

07:54:22 YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THE

07:54:28 MAJORITY OF THE POINT IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL MIXED USE-35,

07:54:33 AND EVEN TO THE SOUTH, THE HULA BAY PROPERTY, WHICH IS

07:54:36 ZONED INDUSTRIAL ISN'T USED AS INDUSTRIAL.

07:54:39 TO THE NORTHEAST YOU CAN SEE THE WESTSHORE MARINA WHERE

07:54:43 THREE TOWERS ARE BEING BUILT, AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE




07:54:46 WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB ALSO THREE VERY LARGE RESIDENTIAL

07:54:50 TOWERS IN THE PIPELINE.

07:54:51 YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS AND THE PLANNERS FROM THE

07:54:58 PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE FOUND THIS PROJECT TO BE

07:55:00 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMPATIBLE

07:55:03 WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

07:55:04 AND THAT COMPATIBILITY IN THEIR STAFF REPORTS INCLUDES

07:55:08 DENSITY.

07:55:09 WE HAVE ALSO SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD A PLANNING REPORT

07:55:11 BY CYNTHIA SPIDELL, OUR INDEPENDENT PLANNER AND HER

07:55:16 RESUMÉ IS ALSO IN YOUR RECORD.

07:55:17 I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO BE A PLANNER.

07:55:19 SHE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY

07:55:22 VERY QUICKLY JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS.

07:55:24 AND ONE IS, THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE

07:55:27 OBJECTIVES, ALL OF THE POLICIES FOR RATTLESNAKE POINT,

07:55:31 WHICH ENCOURAGE THE TRANSITION OF RATTLESNAKE POINT

07:55:33 WATERFRONT AWAY FROM ITS CURRENT MIX OF INDUSTRIAL TO

07:55:37 RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT COMMUNITY.

07:55:41 AND THIS INCLUDES THE DESIRE TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S

07:55:44 ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT.

07:55:45 I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

07:55:46 IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CMU 35 LAND USE CATEGORY.

07:55:51 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF

07:55:54 THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT AND CONSISTENT WITH THE




07:55:56 MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICIES.

07:55:59 JENNIFER MALONE BRIEFLY MENTIONED IT, BUT THIS PROPERTY

07:56:02 DOESN'T FRONT ON A RIGHT-OF-WAY, TYSON AVENUE.

07:56:06 TYSON STARTS PRIOR TO GETTING TO OUR PROPERTY.

07:56:08 YET, THIS APPLICANT HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO CREATE A

07:56:11 REAL PEDESTRIAN AREA THAT MIMICS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE ON A

07:56:17 PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, EVEN THOUGH IT ISN'T REQUIRED UNDER

07:56:21 THIS DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO.

07:56:22 THERE ARE THREE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP OVER

07:56:26 AND OVER WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF GANDY, AND

07:56:28 WE JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEM.

07:56:30 ONE IS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.

07:56:34 TWO IS HURRICANE EVACUATION.

07:56:36 AND THREE ARE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

07:56:38 SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE ONE BY ONE.

07:56:40 AS YOU KNOW, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN YOUR COMP PLAN

07:56:45 TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN SUCCESSFUL CITY BUILDING,

07:56:48 EVERYTHING IS INTERCONNECTED IN CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING

07:56:52 ELSE.

07:56:53 AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN AS A

07:56:55 GENERAL GUIDE TO DO JUST THAT.

07:56:58 WE CAN'T TAKE ONE COMPONENT OF A COMP PLAN WITHOUT

07:57:00 LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE COMP PLAN.

07:57:03 FLORIDA CASE LAW, WHICH HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE RECORD

07:57:06 ALSO SUPPORTS THESE PRINCIPLES, BRIEFLY IT PROVIDES THE




07:57:09 FOLLOWING.

07:57:09 WE CAN'T TAKE ONE PROVISION OF A COMP PLAN WITHOUT

07:57:13 CONSIDERING THE WHOLE COMP PLAN AND OWL OF THE POLICIES

07:57:15 THAT IMPLEMENT AN OBJECTIVE.

07:57:16 WHEN YOU RECONCILE STATUTES AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE

07:57:20 APPLICABLE TO THE INTERPRETATION -- I'M SORRY, STATUTORY

07:57:24 CONSTRUCTION IS APPLICABLE TO THE INTERPRETATION OF

07:57:27 COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE SPECIFIC OVER

07:57:30 THE MORE GENERAL.

07:57:31 SO COASTAL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.1, THIS IS THE ONE WE

07:57:37 ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT SAYS DIRECT FUTURE POPULATION

07:57:40 CONCENTRATIONS AWAY FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.

07:57:44 HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THIS IN A REZONING CONTEXT?

07:57:47 THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION DEFINED AN OBJECTIVE AS

07:57:51 A STATEMENT OF MEASURABLE INCOME IN FURTHERANCE OF A

07:57:55 GOAL.

07:57:57 POLICIES ARE STATEMENTS OF INTENT WITH THE CLARITY

07:58:00 NECESSARY SO THAT YOU, CITY COUNCIL, CAN GUIDE YOUR

07:58:03 DECISION MAKING.

07:58:05 PLANNING COMMISSION INDICATES THAT THE ONLY POLICY

07:58:08 APPLICABLE TO REZONINGS AND TO THIS PARTICULAR

07:58:12 APPLICATION IS POLICY 1.1.6, WHICH REQUIRES THAT YOU

07:58:16 LIMIT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD TO USES

07:58:20 -- AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART -- THAT ARE SHOWN ON

07:58:22 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.




07:58:24 THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY SLATED FOR 1.0 F.A.R.

07:58:28 OR 35 UNITS PER ACRE.

07:58:30 THE GREATER OF WHICH.

07:58:33 SO THE POINT -- THIS POINT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED ON MULTIPLE

07:58:36 OCCASIONS BY VARIOUS PLANNERS, BY YOUR PROFESSIONAL

07:58:39 PLANNERS, AND WE HAVE SUBMITTED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.

07:58:42 COASTAL MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVE 1.2 TALKS ABOUT MAINTAINING

07:58:47 AND REDUCING HURRICANE CLEARANCE TIMES WITHIN THE COASTAL

07:58:51 HIGH HAZARD AREA.

07:58:52 AGAIN, THIS IS A GENERAL OBJECTIVE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

07:58:54 REZONINGS ARE REQUIRED TO MITIGATE THEIR IMPACT ON

07:58:58 SHELTER SPACE AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS A DIFFERENT

07:59:01 STANDARD FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

07:59:03 BUT TONIGHT, OUR OBLIGATION IS TO SHOW THAT WE WILL

07:59:06 MITIGATE OUR IMPACT ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR HURRICANE

07:59:10 SHELTER SPACE.

07:59:11 SO BEFORE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE MITIGATION, WE HAVE TO

07:59:14 TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

07:59:17 THE DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STATEWIDE PLAN FOR

07:59:20 2020, WHICH IS THE LATEST PLAN, WE CONFIRMED THAT WITH

07:59:23 THE CITY TODAY, SAYS THAT WE HAVE A DEMAND OF 52,316

07:59:29 SPACES.

07:59:29 THAT WAS 2020.

07:59:31 THE DEMAND FOR 2025 GOES UP TO 52,515 SPACES.

07:59:36 BUT CURRENTLY, AS OF THE LATEST PLAN, THERE ARE 77,309




07:59:42 SPACES.

07:59:43 NOW, WHEN WE GO IN TO PERMIT THE PROJECT, IF THERE IS A

07:59:47 DEFICIT AT THE TIME BECAUSE, WHO KNOWS, THIS PROJECT MAY

07:59:52 NOT BE PERMITTED FOR THREE YEARS AND THAT SCENARIO MAY

07:59:54 CHANGE.

07:59:55 THEN YOU HAVE A PROVISION IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE

07:59:57 THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE MAKE MITIGATION PAYMENTS IN ORDER

08:00:00 TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

08:00:01 WE HAVE ADDED A NOTE ON OUR SITE PLAN REFLECTING THE

08:00:04 SAME.

08:00:04 I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER NOW TO STEVE HENRY WITH LINCKS &

08:00:08 ASSOCIATES, OUR PROFESSIONAL TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER TO

08:00:11 TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.

08:00:14 >> GOOD EVENING.

08:00:15 STEVE HENRY, LINCKS & ASSOCIATES.

08:00:17 5023 WEST LAUREL.

08:00:19 33607.

08:00:20 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION

08:00:22 CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

08:00:26 WE HAVE CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH

08:00:29 THE CITY'S PROCEDURES, BOTH THE METHODOLOGY AND THE

08:00:33 ANALYSIS FOR BOTH REVIEWED BY YOUR STAFF.

08:00:36 BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE FOR

08:00:39 THIS PROJECT IMPACT WOULD BE $153,623.

08:00:44 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE AGREED TO A CONDITION THAT




08:00:49 WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE FINAL CO OF THE PROJECT WE'LL

08:00:53 CONDUCT A SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS OR AT THE TIME THE CITY

08:00:56 REQUESTS IT, AND IF IT IS WARRANTED WE WOULD PAY OUR

08:00:59 PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE OF THE COST OF THAT SIGNAL.

08:01:01 ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE

08:01:07 EITHER HAVE BEEN DONE OR ARE PLANNED OR UNDER

08:01:10 CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA.

08:01:11 THE FIRST ARE THE ELEVATED LANES FOR THE GANDY BOULEVARD.

08:01:15 THOSE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SLATED TO BE OPEN

08:01:19 THIS YEAR.

08:01:20 THEN WE'VE GOT THE GANDY WESTSHORE INTERSECTION

08:01:23 IMPROVEMENTS.

08:01:24 THOSE ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE

08:01:26 ELEVATED LANES.

08:01:27 WITH THOSE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE DELAY

08:01:31 AT THAT INTERSECTION.

08:01:32 IN ADDITION, YOU'VE GOT BRIDGE STREET THAT WAS RECENTLY

08:01:36 COMPLETED, AND THAT GOES FROM GANDY BOULEVARD TO TYSON.

08:01:40 THAT ACTS AS A RELIEVER AND PARALLEL FACILITY TO

08:01:45 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD FOR THE SEGMENT.

08:01:47 THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE THE SIGNAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT

08:01:49 THE INTERSECTION OF TYSON AND WESTSHORE.

08:01:53 FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPARISON OF THE

08:01:57 TRAFFIC FOR WHAT -- THE PROPERTY WHICH IS CURRENTLY

08:02:01 ZONED, WHAT IT COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR, VERSUS WHAT WE'RE




08:02:04 PROPOSING.

08:02:04 THE LEFT SIDE IS THE AM PEAK HOUR.

08:02:07 RIGHT SIDE IS THE PM PEAK HOUR.

08:02:09 THE GREEN SHOWS WHAT THE EXISTING ZONING WOULD ALLOW

08:02:14 VERSUS OUR PROPOSED.

08:02:16 YOU CAN SEE IN THE AM PEAK HOUR, THE EXISTING ZONING

08:02:19 GENERATES ABOUT 937 AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE

08:02:23 PROPOSING OF ABOUT 264.

08:02:26 IN THE PM PEAK HOUR, THE EXISTING WOULD BE 923 VERSUS

08:02:31 OURS 316.

08:02:32 SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS A SIGNIFICANT

08:02:35 REDUCTION IN THE TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE GENERATED BY THE

08:02:38 PROJECT BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

08:02:41 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CLARK.

08:02:51 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS CLARK.

08:02:55 4921 MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE 300, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33634.

08:03:00 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

08:03:02 I'M QUICKLY GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE FUN PART OF THE

08:03:04 PROJECT THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF.

08:03:05 AS ELISE MENTIONED, WE'VE LISTENED TO YOU ALL FOR MANY

08:03:10 YEARS.

08:03:10 WE'VE LISTENED TO COUNCIL.

08:03:11 WE'VE LISTENED TO STAFF.

08:03:12 REALLY, AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE PUT

08:03:16 TOGETHER A CORNERSTONE PROJECT FOR RATTLESNAKE POINT TO




08:03:20 GROW ON.

08:03:21 WE WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO PRESENT A PROJECT

08:03:23 THAT YOU CAN BE PROUD OF AND ONE THAT WILL SUCCESSFULLY

08:03:27 BEGIN THE TRANSITION OF RATTLESNAKE POINT.

08:03:30 THIS IS A VIEW OF OUR PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WE

08:03:33 HAVE DESIGNED TO BE THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF TYSON AVENUE.

08:03:37 WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT FELT THE NEED TO

08:03:40 BEAUTIFY THE STREETSCAPE, CREATE A SAFE, ENERGIZED

08:03:44 PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND PROVIDE STREET-LEVEL ACCESS TO

08:03:48 ALL THE UNITS ON THE BUILDING FRONTING TYSON.

08:03:52 THIS WILL ALSO PROVIDE FOR A NICE PUBLIC ACCESS CORRIDOR

08:03:55 TO GET TO THE WATERFRONT.

08:03:57 THE NEXT VIEW I'LL SHOW YOU IS THE TRANSIENT BOAT SLIPS.

08:04:04 AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR

08:04:06 PUBLIC BOATERS TO ACCESS THIS FACILITY, AND THIS WILL

08:04:11 ALSO PROVIDE A PROMENADE AROUND THE PROPERTY FROM THE

08:04:14 EAST SIDE TO THE SOUTH SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE TO THE

08:04:18 RESTAURANT AREA THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK, FISH, SOMETHING

08:04:22 THAT WE FEEL LIKE HAD BEEN MISSING IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR

08:04:26 YEARS, AND IT WILL REALLY ALLOW THIS AREA TO GROW AND

08:04:29 REALLY BE ENERGIZED FROM THE PUBLIC STANDPOINT AND ALSO

08:04:32 THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE.

08:04:33 THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE WATERFRONT RESTAURANT THAT WE

08:04:42 LOCATED NEAR TO AND ADJACENT TO THE SALT SHACK.

08:04:46 WE CHOSE THIS LOCATION TO REALLY HAVE SOME HARMONIOUS




08:04:49 CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE TWO USES, AND OUR VISION FOR THE

08:04:52 RESTAURANT WOULD BE OPEN AIR, OUTDOOR SEATING, AND PLENTY

08:04:55 OF OPEN WATER VIEWS FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY.

08:04:58 WE REALLY BELIEVE THIS LOCATION WILL ALLOW FOR BOTH

08:05:02 RESTAURANTS THE MOST SUCCESS AND PROVIDE -- AND ALSO ON

08:05:06 THIS VIEW, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE PROMENADE THAT REALLY

08:05:09 TURNS INTO A 2,000-FOOT LINEAR PARK FOR THE PUBLIC TO

08:05:14 ACCESS AND TO REALLY ENJOY.

08:05:17 AND THE FINAL SLIDE I'LL GO THROUGH TONIGHT IS REALLY THE

08:05:24 -- WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING A HIGH-END COMMUNITY ON THE WATER

08:05:27 THAT WILL BE HIGHLY AMENITIZED FOR THE RESIDENTS TO

08:05:30 ENCOURAGE THE LONG-TERM SUCCESS, SUSTAINABILITY, AND

08:05:34 PROVIDE A REAL BLUEPRINT FOR THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF THE

08:05:38 DEVELOPMENT OF RATTLESNAKE POINT.

08:05:40 AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'LL END THE PRESENTATION OR I'LL

08:05:43 TURN IT OVER TO ELISE.

08:05:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH TIME DO THEY HAVE LEFT?

08:05:50 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

08:05:51 WE'LL WRAP UP.

08:05:53 MR. CHAIR AND COUNCILMEN, WE REALLY HAVE WORKED HARD ON

08:05:56 THIS PROJECT.

08:05:57 WE HAVE TRIED TO LISTEN TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU -- THE

08:06:00 INPUT THAT EVERYONE HAS HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR OR YEAR

08:06:03 AND A HALF ABOUT PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AND REALLY TRIED TO

08:06:06 INCORPORATE THEM INTO OUR DESIGN.




08:06:08 I THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD QUALITY PROJECT

08:06:11 THAT WILL NOT ONLY PROVIDE MIXED USE TO THE AREA BUT ALSO

08:06:14 ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS TO THE WATERWAY.

08:06:16 SO WITH THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE

08:06:21 --

08:06:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:06:22 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

08:06:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. BATSEL, YOU SAID THERE WAS 9% OF

08:06:30 RETAIL AND GREENSPACE?

08:06:33 >> NO, SIR.

08:06:33 MIXED USE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.

08:06:36 SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT A MIXED USE PROJECT,

08:06:40 IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS THE NONRESIDENTIAL.

08:06:42 THE NONRESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS WHICH INCLUDE THE PUBLIC

08:06:45 BOARDWALK, TRANSIENT BOAT SLIPS, AND THE COMMERCIAL

08:06:48 PARCEL WHICH COULD BE EITHER A WATERFRONT RESTAURANT OR

08:06:51 RETAIL, THAT'S 10.94% OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE

08:06:56 PROPERTY, SIR.

08:06:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT'S THE RATIO BETWEEN

08:06:59 THE RETAIL END OF IT AND THE MULTIFAMILY USE?

08:07:03 I BELIEVE THAT COMES OUT TO 7.02.

08:07:08 >> OKAY.

08:07:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOT THE 9%.

08:07:10 THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR.

08:07:12 THANK YOU, MS. BATSEL.




08:07:13 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

08:07:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:07:15 ANYBODY ELSE?

08:07:15 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

08:07:19 GO AHEAD, SIR.

08:07:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

08:07:27 I'M GOING TO COMMIT THE CARDINAL SIN THAT ATTORNEYS ARE

08:07:34 TRAINED NOT TO DO.

08:07:36 LUIS WILL VERIFY THAT WITH ME.

08:07:39 I'LL ASK A QUESTION I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO.

08:07:41 MS. BATSEL, YOU HAD SOME -- YOU HAVE SOME PLANNERS THERE

08:07:50 WITH YOU.

08:07:51 YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH UP AND DOWN TYSON

08:07:55 IN THAT AREA.

08:07:58 PUTTING ASIDE THE COMP PLAN ANALYSIS THAT YOU DID IN

08:08:04 TERMS OF MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE, AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT

08:08:08 RIGHT NOW AT 35 UNITS PER ACRE YOU ARE AT THE MAXIMUM

08:08:12 ALLOWABLE DENSITY, WHICH I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT WAS NOT

08:08:20 NECESSARILY AN ENTITLEMENT, BUT THE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE.

08:08:25 ANYWAY, MY QUESTION IS, THE PROJECT -- AND I CAN'T

08:08:28 REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS EVENTUALLY NAMED -- BUT THE PROJECT

08:08:32 THAT HAS BEEN FAIRLY BUILT OUT UP THERE ON BRIDGE STREET

08:08:38 THAT CAME INTO US BACK IN THE MID 2000s AND THEN

08:08:45 TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

08:08:47 IT'S A BIG PD PROJECT UP THERE ON BRIDGE STREET WITH




08:08:50 PARTIAL MIXED USE COMPONENT.

08:08:52 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EVENTUALLY GOT BUILT OUT AT IN

08:08:57 TERMS OF DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE?

08:09:00 >> UNITS PER ACRE, I KNOW IT'S IN UMU 60.

08:09:05 NO, THAT'S NOT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

08:09:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FINE.

08:09:09 WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, WHAT DID IT GET BUILT OUT

08:09:15 ULTIMATELY?

08:09:15 IT CHANGED HANDS, THIS AND THAT.

08:09:17 IT GOT APPROVED AS A PD.

08:09:20 >> WE CAN FIND IT FOR YOU, SIR.

08:09:23 I'M SURE IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES, WE CAN FIND THAT ANSWER

08:09:25 FOR YOU.

08:09:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS OUR STAFF KNOWS OFF THE TOP OF

08:09:30 THEIR HEAD OR CAN FIND IT AS WELL.

08:09:33 BEFORE WE FINISH UP WITH THIS HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO

08:09:36 KNOW WHAT THAT WAS BUILT OUT.

08:09:43 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, NICOLE LYNN.

08:09:47 I CAN LOOK THAT UP FOR YOU.

08:09:48 I BELIEVE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WESTSHORE MARINA

08:09:53 DISTRICT.

08:09:53 IT'S Z 07-48, AND WE CAN LOOK THAT UP FOR YOU.

08:09:57 BUT TO QUICKLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT IS NOT

08:10:01 COMPLETED, THAT PROJECT, ALTHOUGH IT'S WELL UNDERWAY AT

08:10:05 THIS TIME.




08:10:05 SO WE CAN LOOK UP THE NUMBER.

08:10:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS THE

08:10:09 PD APPROVED AT IN TERMS OF THE PD DENSITY?

08:10:13 BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, UNLESS THEY HAVE A MAJOR CHANGE,

08:10:15 THAT'S WHAT IT WILL GET BUILT OUT AT.

08:10:18 I APOLOGIZE FOR ASKING THE QUESTION I DON'T KNOW THE

08:10:22 ANSWER TO.

08:10:23 IN REGARD TO MR. HENRY --

08:10:29 >> HE'S COMING BACK.

08:10:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I ASSUME HE'S STILL IN THE HOUSE.

08:10:34 >> YES, I'M HERE.

08:10:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. HENRY, HAD SOME HUGE DISPARITY

08:10:42 BETWEEN WHAT IT COULD BE AT ITS CURRENT USE, BUT I'M NOT

08:10:46 EVEN SURE WHAT IS THE CURRENT USE AND DID YOU CALCULATE

08:10:51 WHAT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC IS COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED

08:10:55 TRAFFIC?

08:10:57 I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, IF IT WAS BUILT

08:10:59 OUT AND TOTALLY OCCUPIED AS AN INDUSTRIAL USE OR

08:11:02 WHATEVER, WHATEVER USE IT'S BEEN, THIS IS THE MAXIMUM

08:11:06 TRAFFIC, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE STANDARD WAY TO LOOK AT

08:11:10 IT.

08:11:10 I'M CURIOUS, WHAT IS THE CURRENT USE, WHAT IS THE USE

08:11:14 THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING AS COMPARED TO

08:11:19 THE USE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED?

08:11:22 TRAFFIC-WISE.




08:11:24 >> OUT THERE TODAY, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 48,000 SQUARE

08:11:29 FEET OF INDUSTRIAL AND ABOUT 15, 16 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET

08:11:33 OF OFFICE.

08:11:34 THAT WOULD GENERATE OUT AT ABOUT 67 A.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

08:11:42 AND ABOUT 42 P.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

08:11:50 AS FAR AS A NET INCREASE, IT WOULD BE 197 IN THE MORNING

08:11:54 AND ABOUT 274 IN THE P.M. PEAK HOUR.

08:12:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THOSE NUMBERS.

08:12:03 YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY FRANK AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.

08:12:05 I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE I THINK

08:12:08 THOSE NUMBERS ARE RELEVANT AS WELL.

08:12:10 MS. BATSEL, HAS YOUR COHORT FOUND THE Z 48 -- Z 07-48 PD

08:12:24 YET?

08:12:26 >> YES, SIR.

08:12:26 WE'RE JUST DOING THE CALCULATION NOW.

08:12:29 >> IT'S 33 --

08:12:39 WHAT IT WAS APPROVED FOR IS 33 PER ACRE FOR THE

08:12:46 RESIDENTIAL AND, OF COURSE, IT ALSO HAD OFFICE,

08:12:49 COMMERCIAL, AND HOTEL USES ALLOWED.

08:12:52 IF YOU WANT THOSE I CAN GIVE --

08:12:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE NET ON THE TOTAL ACREAGE ON THE

08:12:59 ULTIMATE PD, THE PD IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK

08:13:02 IT CHANGED A FEW TIMES --

08:13:06 >> ACTUALLY, IT HAD THREE DIFFERENT ZONINGS AND THEN THEY

08:13:08 WERE COMBINED INTO THE ONE.




08:13:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I REMEMBER SOME PART OF THAT.

08:13:14 THE MOST RECENT IS THE '07?

08:13:16 >> YES, SIR.

08:13:17 07-48.

08:13:21 >> DO WE KNOW THE F.A.R. FOR ALL OF THOSE --

08:13:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU,

08:13:32 MS. BATSEL, YOU ARE NO STRANGER TO OUR PROCEEDINGS.

08:13:40 THERE'S EVEN A RUMOR THAT YOU WATCH THE PROCEEDINGS EVEN

08:13:43 WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION GOING ON.

08:13:45 [ LAUGHTER ]

08:13:47 >> ARE YOU CALLING ME A NERD, SIR?

08:13:49 IT'S OKAY.

08:13:51 I PROUDLY STATE THAT I'M A NERD.

08:13:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS

08:13:57 YOU'VE HEARD THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER AND OVER ON THESE

08:14:01 RATTLESNAKE POINT PROJECTS, AND THE COMMUNITY'S

08:14:07 OBJECTIONS WHICH I KNOW WE'LL HEAR SHORTLY AS RELATED TO

08:14:16 THE INTENSITY, THE TRAFFIC, JUST BASICALLY THE DENSITIES

08:14:25 OF THESE PROJECTS.

08:14:27 YET, YOUR CLIENT HAS DESIGNED A PROJECT WITH THE ABSOLUTE

08:14:32 MAXIMUM DENSITY.

08:14:34 I'M JUST WONDERING WHY.

08:14:38 ARE THESE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS AND COUNCIL CONCERNS

08:14:42 FALLING ON DEAF EARS?

08:14:44 I KNOW YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND ASK FOR THAT.




08:14:50 I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE A RIGHT OR ENTITLEMENT TO GET

08:14:52 IT.

08:14:52 BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WASN'T SOME

08:14:57 MODIFICATION WITH SOME LOWER DENSITY, AND IF IT HASN'T

08:15:05 BEEN DONE IS IT SOMETHING YOU MIGHT CONSIDER, YOUR CLIENT

08:15:09 MIGHT CONSIDER GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD A LITTLE

08:15:13 BIT WITH A CONTINUANCE AND COMING BACK WITH A LOWER

08:15:16 DENSITY.

08:15:16 >> SO LET ME TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT.

08:15:19 THAT IS NOT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY, 35 UNITS PER ACRE.

08:15:22 WHAT'S ALLOWED TODAY UNDER THE COMP PLAN IS 1.0 F.A.R.,

08:15:27 FOR 35 UNITS, WHICHEVER IS GREATER AT THE DEVELOPER'S

08:15:30 DISCRETION.

08:15:31 SO WE COULD HAVE COME IN AND ASKED FOR A LOT MORE.

08:15:33 AND WE SPECIFICALLY DID NOT DO THAT FOR THE REASONS THAT

08:15:37 YOU'RE TALKING TODAY.

08:15:38 WITH RESPECT TO LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS, A LOT OF THE

08:15:44 CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE HEARD IN PRIOR

08:15:47 HEARINGS ARE BASED ON TRAFFIC CONCERNS, HURRICANE

08:15:51 EVACUATION CONCERNS, AND THOSE ISSUES ARE DIFFERENT AND

08:15:56 PARTICULAR ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.

08:15:57 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT A GEOGRAPHICAL

08:16:01 MAP, RATTLESNAKE POINT IS CONNECTED NOT JUST BY

08:16:04 WESTSHORE, BUT NOW BY BRIDGE STREET.

08:16:07 THERE ARE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT MR.




08:16:09 HENRY COULD TALK ABOUT THAT YOUR OWN CITY STAFF'S

08:16:13 ANALYSIS SAY WILL REDUCE THE INTERSECTION WAIT TIMES BY

08:16:19 40% AT THAT INTERSECTION.

08:16:21 SO THIS IS UNLIKE OTHER AREAS OF SOUTH TAMPA.

08:16:25 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF ITS UNIQUE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION BUT

08:16:29 BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SLATED.

08:16:31 THIS COUNCIL -- MAYBE NOT THIS PARTICULAR MAKEUP -- BUT

08:16:35 THIS COUNCIL SAYS THIS IS WHERE THIS TYPE OF INTENSE

08:16:39 DEVELOPMENT SHOULD GO AS OPPOSED TO OTHER AREAS, RIGHT,

08:16:42 OF SOUTH OF GANDY.

08:16:45 SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE COMING FROM WITH THIS

08:16:47 APPLICATION.

08:16:50 AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING PUBLIC AMENITY SPACES AND

08:16:53 TRYING TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU ALSO HAVE TO PAY

08:16:55 FOR THOSE PUBLIC AMENITIES.

08:16:57 IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN A COST-EFFECTIVE MANNER

08:17:01 YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE DENSITY IN ORDER TO PUT

08:17:04 ALL OF THAT MONEY INTO THE PUBLIC SPACES, PUBLIC BOAT

08:17:08 SLIPS AND BOARDWALKS.

08:17:10 THOSE COST MONEY AND THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE THAT UP FROM AN

08:17:13 ECONOMIC STANDPOINT.

08:17:16 WITH RESPECT TO THE MIXED USE COMPONENT, WE REALLY DID

08:17:19 TRY TO PROVIDE A MIXED USE COMPONENT FOR YOU THAT WAS

08:17:22 BOTH SUSTAINABLE ECONOMICALLY FOR THE LONG TERM.

08:17:26 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT GREAT PERCENTAGES IN




08:17:29 MIXED USE PROJECTS, BUT RIGHT NOW, RETAIL IS STRUGGLING

08:17:33 AND THERE'S MORE AND MORE ONLINE SHOPPING.

08:17:35 SO WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK

08:17:38 AND NOT BE A SHELL OF A BUILDING, BUT BE A REAL USE THAT

08:17:41 PEOPLE COULD REALLY ENJOY.

08:17:43 SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS FAR AS

08:17:46 WHERE WE WERE COMING FROM WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

08:17:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

08:17:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:17:54 ANYBODY ELSE?

08:17:54 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR HAND.

08:17:59 YOU'RE MUTED.

08:18:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

08:18:04 MR. MANASSE, CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO SEE IF I

08:18:10 CAN GET SOME DIRECTION HERE ALONG THE SAME LINES THAT MR.

08:18:13 DINGFELDER WAS THINKING ABOUT.

08:18:14 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

08:18:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS THE -- THE F.A.R. RATIO AND

08:18:26 THAT UNIT SURROUNDING TYSON AVENUE, HAVE YOU HAD ANY IN

08:18:30 THE PAST THAT HAVE COME UP RECENTLY AND WHAT WAS IT

08:18:33 COMPARED TO THIS?

08:18:37 >>RYAN MANASSE: AS FAR AS -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN

08:18:40 MIRANDA.

08:18:41 ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE ONES WE LISTED OFF EARLIER?

08:18:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RIGHT.




08:18:45 >>RYAN MANASSE: LIKE THE LAST ONE THAT WAS IN THE

08:18:46 PREVIOUS COUNCIL WAS REZ 20-66, THAT WAS AT 5301 WEST

08:18:52 TYSON AVENUE FOR 299 UNITS.

08:18:55 AT 8.37 ACRES, WHICH CAME TO 35.72 DWELLING UNITS PER

08:19:02 ACRE.

08:19:02 WOULD YOU LIKE THE OTHER ONES AS WELL?

08:19:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PLEASE.

08:19:07 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

08:19:08 REZ 19-94 AT 6603 SOUTH TRASK.

08:19:15 THAT WAS 205 UNITS WITH 10.51 ACRES FOR A TOTAL OF 19.51

08:19:23 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

08:19:24 THEN REZ 19-69 AT 7701 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, 214 UNITS,

08:19:35 9.31 ACRES FOR A TOTAL OF 22.99 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

08:19:40 AND THEN REZONING 19-77 AT 5105 WEST TYSON AVENUE.

08:19:47 THAT WAS 325 UNITS, 11.9 ACRES, WHICH EQUATES TO THE

08:19:54 27.31 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, SIR.

08:20:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMETHING GETS IN MY MIND THAT THERE

08:20:05 WAS ONE, MAYBE IT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS DENIED.

08:20:08 I'M NOT SURE.

08:20:09 IT WAS LIKE HUNDRED UNITS LESS THAN THIS, LIKE 550

08:20:15 INSTEAD OF 650.

08:20:18 >>RYAN MANASSE: I DON'T RECALL, SIR.

08:20:19 THESE ARE THE ONES THAT I TRY --

08:20:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.

08:20:22 I'M JUST TESTING MY OWN MIND HERE.




08:20:24 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZONING 20-66 WAS THE MOST RECENT.

08:20:28 THAT WAS DENIED, AS CATE DID CLARIFY, AND, COUNCILMAN

08:20:30 DINGFELDER, THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.

08:20:32 THE LAST THREE, 19-94, 19-69, AND 19-77 WERE DONE THROUGH

08:20:38 THAT SETTLEMENT.

08:20:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS ASKING, COMPARED TO THE OTHERS

08:20:43 THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, AND I'M NOT MAKING A COMPARISON,

08:20:46 JUST FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING FOR.

08:20:50 >>RYAN MANASSE: THIS ONE IS AT 35.04 DWELLING UNITS PER

08:20:55 ACRE.

08:20:56 JUST GOING TO CALCULATE THE DWELLING UNITS BY THE

08:20:59 ACREAGE.

08:21:00 THE LAST ONE, 20-66, THAT WAS RECENTLY DENIED WAS 35.72

08:21:06 PER ACRE, AND THAT WAS AT 1857 --

08:21:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE SURROUNDING

08:21:12 UNITS WERE, WHAT COMES INTO THE ACREAGE.

08:21:17 THANK YOU.

08:21:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

08:21:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:21:21 ANYBODY ELSE?

08:21:23 ALL RIGHT.

08:21:26 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

08:21:29 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN PERSON ON THE SECOND FLOOR?

08:21:32 I KNOW WE HAVE SIX REGISTERED SPEAKERS, I BELIEVE.

08:21:35 >> YES, WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.




08:21:39 I WILL BRING THEM IN NOW.

08:21:40 THANK YOU.

08:21:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:21:46 >> WE HAVE THREE OF THE SIX WHO REGISTERED ONLINE THAT

08:21:49 ARE IN THE MEETING.

08:21:50 THEY CAN COME ON THE SCREEN TO BE SWORN IN.

08:21:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID WE HAVE SIX THAT ARE

08:21:56 REGISTERED ONLINE?

08:21:59 >>THE CLERK: SIX REGISTERED ONLINE.

08:22:01 THREE OF WHICH -- ONLY THREE OF WHICH HAVE SIGNED INTO

08:22:04 THE MEETING.

08:22:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO THE IN-PERSON FIRST.

08:22:07 WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE VIRTUAL.

08:22:10 SIR, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT-HAND, WE'LL SWEAR YOU

08:22:15 IN.

08:22:17 [OATH ADMINISTERED]

08:22:20 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

08:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

08:22:22 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

08:22:25 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

08:22:27 >> STEVE MEADOWS.

08:22:28 I'M THE TREASURER OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION OF PORT TAMPA.

08:22:31 DANGEROUS INDUSTRIES LIKE THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND

08:22:34 CHEMICAL PLANTS ARE USUALLY REASSURING US THAT THEY

08:22:38 EXCEED EVERY SAFETY REGULATION AND THEY ARE 100% SAFE.




08:22:43 WELL, IF ANYONE IS HURT OR KILLED BY AN INDUSTRIAL

08:22:47 ACCIDENT ON RATTLESNAKE POINT, A GAGGLE OF LAWYERS ARE

08:22:51 GOING TO WAVE THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING

08:22:54 WHERE CHEMICAL FORMULATORS TOLD YOU THAT IN NO UNCERTAIN

08:22:59 TERMS THAT IT IS A VERY, VERY BAD IDEA TO REZONE HIGH

08:23:05 DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO THEIR HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL

08:23:08 PLANT.

08:23:09 IF THE CITY'S DEFENSE IS, BUT IT WAS 499 FEET AWAY, THE

08:23:13 CITY IS GOING TO HEMORRHAGE MONEY SETTLING LAWSUITS.

08:23:17 THE CDC SAYS THAT A SMALL SPILL OF JUST 53 GALLONS PUTS

08:23:21 PEOPLE AT RISK, .2 TO .8 MILES AWAY.

08:23:26 .2 MILES IS 1,056 FEET.

08:23:30 THE CHLORINE PLANT IS ONLY 499 FEET AWAY.

08:23:34 AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME THERE ARE 10 TO 15 RAILROAD

08:23:39 TANKER CARS SITTING FULLY LOADED WITH CHLORINE.

08:23:42 THAT IS ABOUT 90 TONS OF LIQUID CHLORINE PER GAS PER CAR.

08:23:49 YOU DO THE MATH.

08:23:51 AND THESE APARTMENTS ARE ON THE END OF THIS TINY

08:23:54 PENINSULA.

08:23:54 THE CHEMICAL PLANT IS BETWEEN THEM AND SAFETY.

08:23:58 THEIR EVACUATION ROUTE IS THROUGH THE CHLORINE CLOUD.

08:24:01 THE ONLY ESCAPE IS BY BOAT.

08:24:04 HOW'S THAT GOING TO WORK?

08:24:06 AS MR. NOBLE TOLD YOU PRIOR TO 2016, THE COMP PLAN

08:24:11 PREVENTED ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON RATTLESNAKE




08:24:14 POINT UNTIL CHEMICAL FORMULATORS WAS NO LONGER PRESENT.

08:24:20 IN 2016, SOME LANDOWNERS GOT THE PLAN CHANGED WITHOUT

08:24:23 CFI'S KNOWLEDGE OR PARTICIPATION.

08:24:26 MR. NOBLE INFORMED YOU THAT HE IS UNAWARE OF ANY

08:24:29 RESIDENTIAL AREA IN ALL OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT IS

08:24:33 NEXT TO SUCH A VERY MASSIVE VOLUME OF VERY DANGEROUS

08:24:36 HAZARDOUS MATERIAL.

08:24:38 HE ALSO EMPHASIZED THAT THE PLANT IS NOT MOVING.

08:24:43 NOW, STEPHANIE POYNOR IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A CDC REPORT

08:24:50 ON HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL SPILLS SO YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING

08:24:53 THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.

08:24:56 I ACTUALLY HAVE A FRIEND, A LONG-TERM FRIEND THAT USED TO

08:25:00 WORK AT TRIDENT SHIP WORKS, WHICH IS THE BUILDING JUST TO

08:25:03 THE NORTH OF CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, AND THEY HAD A

08:25:07 CHEMICAL SPILL BACK -- I'M GOING TO SAY THE MID '90s.

08:25:11 NOT SURE EXACTLY OF THE DATE BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND

08:25:14 ANYTHING ON IT.

08:25:14 BUT ULTIMATELY HE ENDURED SEVERE LUNG DAMAGE FROM

08:25:19 INHALING CHEMICAL GAS AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE

08:25:23 HOSPITAL.

08:25:23 I TRIED TO GET AHOLD OF HIM TO SEE IF HE COULD TELL ME A

08:25:29 LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I COULDN'T REACH HIM.

08:25:32 AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT THE PROJECT IS USING A BONUS

08:25:36 DENSITY AND THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE IN THE CHHA, MUCH LESS

08:25:40 NEAR -- MUCH LESS NEAR A DEADLY CHEMICAL PLANT.




08:25:44 THE OTHER PROJECTS RECENTLY APPROVED IN THE CHA WERE 20

08:25:49 TO 27 UNITS PER ACRE, NOT ONLY ARE THEY PUTTING PEOPLE

08:25:53 NEAR THIS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CHEMICAL PLANT, BUT THEY

08:25:57 ARE ALSO DOING THIS AT MAXIMUM DENSITY.

08:25:59 THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE GOOD GOVERNMENT TO ME.

08:26:01 AT THE LAST REZONING, THE HEAD OF GULF STREAM YACHTS MADE

08:26:06 AN INTERESTING POINT.

08:26:07 THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WATERFRONT.

08:26:09 THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY AND WHEN IT'S GONE,

08:26:11 IT'S NEVER COMING BACK.

08:26:13 THOSE INDUSTRIES PROVIDE GOOD JOBS AND ESSENTIAL

08:26:16 SERVICES.

08:26:17 A LOT OF VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY WILL BE LOST IF YOU

08:26:20 ELIMINATE THE WATERFRONT INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS.

08:26:23 THANK YOU.

08:26:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:26:23 YES, MR. SHELBY.

08:26:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.

08:26:29 MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST

08:26:32 IN GENERAL BECAUSE IT CAME UP JUST NOW.

08:26:35 I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION

08:26:38 AND ASK THE PUBLIC AS WELL FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE.

08:26:41 IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE IS SOME

08:26:44 CONFUSION THAT WHEN PEOPLE IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS

08:26:47 OFFICERS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE QUESTION IS,




08:26:49 ARE THEY SPEAKING INDIVIDUALLY OR ARE THEY SPEAKING ON

08:26:52 BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION?

08:26:53 AND IF SO, IF THEY ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE

08:26:55 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WAS THIS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD

08:26:59 OR WAS THIS BROUGHT TO THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP AND WAS

08:27:02 THERE A VOTE AND WHAT WAS THE DETERMINATION?

08:27:06 I JUST WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES

08:27:09 RAISE THAT ISSUE AND COUNCIL DOES WANT A CLARIFICATION,

08:27:12 IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK IF THEY REPRESENT THAT

08:27:16 THEY ARE A MEMBER OR AN OFFICER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD

08:27:19 ASSOCIATION, NOT PARTICULARLY JUST IN THIS CASE, BUT IN

08:27:23 ALL CASES THAT THEY IDENTIFY IF, IN FACT, THEY ARE

08:27:25 SPEAKING INDIVIDUALLY OR THEY ARE SPEAKING FOR THE

08:27:28 ORGANIZATION AND IF SO, HOW.

08:27:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

08:27:31 MS. POYNOR, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, ARE YOU SPEAKING AS AN

08:27:42 INDIVIDUAL OR DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TAKE A

08:27:44 VOTE IN APPROVAL OR OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT?

08:27:47 >> NO, SIR.

08:27:48 THERE WAS NO MEETING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

08:27:53 I AM SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW,

08:27:58 JUST BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE DOESN'T MEAN THERE

08:28:01 AREN'T A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WATCHING WHAT WE'RE SAYING

08:28:04 AND SUPPORTING WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

08:28:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.




08:28:06 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

08:28:08 >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.

08:28:09 I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

08:28:11 I'M ALSO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD

08:28:13 ASSOCIATION.

08:28:14 I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MS. BATSEL -- CAN I HAVE AN

08:28:21 EXTRA MINUTE, PLEASE?

08:28:22 THEY GOT FIVE.

08:28:24 I JUST WANT ONE.

08:28:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WROTE US THE E-MAIL LAST WEEK

08:28:27 SAYING THE CITY COUNCIL IS MISERY.

08:28:30 >> YOU'RE RIGHT.

08:28:30 IT IS.

08:28:31 I FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOU ALL.

08:28:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANY OBJECTION, COUNCIL?

08:28:35 NO.

08:28:35 ALL RIGHT.

08:28:36 GO AHEAD.

08:28:36 >> THANK YOU.

08:28:36 GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.

08:28:38 I AM HERE ON VIDEO, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.

08:28:41 THIS IS THREE THURSDAYS IN A ROW I'VE BEEN HANGING OUT

08:28:44 WITH SEVEN MEN.

08:28:45 MY HUSBAND IS GETTING JEALOUS, FRANKLY.

08:28:47 I'M EXHAUSTED FROM COMING HERE AND DRINKING FROM A FIRE




08:28:51 HOSE.

08:28:52 SPEAKING OF A FIRE HOSE, I REACHED OUT TO TAMPA PD

08:28:55 WITHOUT SUCCESS ABOUT SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS FOR

08:28:58 EVACUATIONS FOR RESIDENTS OF 649 UNITS IN THIS LOCATION

08:29:03 THAT IS 499 FEET FROM A CHEMICAL FORMULATORS.

08:29:10 REMEMBER THE CHLORINE PLANT?

08:29:11 499 FEET IS TWO TIMES THE DISTANCE THAT IS REQUIRED FOR

08:29:16 NOTIFICATION IN STANDING IN ONE OF THESE HEARINGS.

08:29:20 499 FEET IS LESS THAN .1 MILE AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY.

08:29:26 499 FEET IS HALF THE DISTANCE THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE

08:29:30 EVACUATION -- FOR EVACUATION BY THE CDC DURING DAYLIGHT

08:29:34 HOURS.

08:29:34 499 FEET IS ONE-EIGHTH OF THE DISTANCE REQUIRED AT NIGHT.

08:29:39 THE COMP PLAN STATES LU 8.10 -- BLAH BLAH BLAH.

08:29:50 GOOD GOD.

08:29:52 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES SHALL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER USES

08:29:56 OF UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY APPROPRIATELY DESIGNATED IN THE

08:30:01 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

08:30:02 RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN INDUSTRIAL LAND USES ARE

08:30:07 CONSIDERED TO BE NONCONFORMING.

08:30:08 YES, I DO REALIZE THAT THIS IS RATTLESNAKE POINT, BUT WE

08:30:12 DO HAVE -- WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM HERE BY NOT ADDRESSING

08:30:16 IT.

08:30:16 CEF HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF MOVING.

08:30:21 MR. NOBLE TOLD YOU THAT LAST WEEK.




08:30:23 I FIND THESE APARTMENTS AT THE DEAD END TO BE AN IRONY

08:30:27 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE KEEP SAYING ABOUT SOG.

08:30:31 WHAT HAPPENS IF CF HAS AN ACCIDENT?

08:30:33 HOW WILL YOU GET ALL THESE FOLKS FROM CF?

08:30:36 BY DRIVING BY THE HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL PLANT TO GET TO THE

08:30:40 EDGE?

08:30:40 CAN YOU SHOW MY SCREEN, PLEASE?

08:30:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN SEE IT.

08:30:45 >> WHO IS ENSURING EVERYONE IS EVACUATED THOSE 649 UNITS?

08:30:49 I'M NOT 100% ON MY NUMBERS BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD BACK

08:30:52 FROM ANYBODY, BUT NORMALLY SIX FIREMEN IN A FIRE STATION,

08:30:56 WE HAVE THREE FIRE STATIONS ON THE PENINSULA OF SOUTH

08:30:58 TAMPA.

08:30:58 THAT MEANS 18 MEN EVACUATING JUST THESE 649 UNITS.

08:31:05 -- THAT DOESN'T COUNT SALT SHACK AND THE OTHER 1200 UNITS

08:31:09 ON THE OTHER END OF THE RATTLESNAKE POINT.

08:31:13 SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE

08:31:16 EVACUATION IF THIS HAPPENS?

08:31:19 WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE EMERGENCY EVACUATION

08:31:21 TECHNIQUES?

08:31:22 THE TAMPA BAY -- OH, WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST?

08:31:26 WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT?

08:31:27 BECAUSE THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL EXPLAINED

08:31:30 TO ME THAT CF'S EMERGENCY STUFF, THEIR PLANNING, ENDS AT

08:31:38 THEIR PROPERTY LINE.




08:31:39 SO ALL THIS OTHER END OF TYSON IS OUR PROBLEM, THE CITY'S

08:31:45 PROBLEM.

08:31:45 THE TAXPAYERS' PROBLEM.

08:31:46 WHAT HAVE THEY GOT IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF IT?

08:31:50 BUT LET'S CHANGE GEARS FOR JUST A SECOND.

08:31:54 MS. BATSEL SAID THAT THEY ARE GIVING US 5K OF LAND, BUT

08:32:01 THEN THEY ADDED THIS WONDERFUL BOARDWALK TO THE PICTURES.

08:32:04 WELL, LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING.

08:32:06 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND OR NOT, BUT THIS

08:32:09 PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT HERE IS ALL FLOOD ZONE VE.

08:32:14 I DIDN'T KNOW EVEN KNOW WHAT VE WAS.

08:32:16 EVERY TIME I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE IT'S VE, THEY ARE LIKE,

08:32:19 "OH, WHAT'S THAT?"

08:32:21 THERE'S VERY LITTLE LAND IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT FALLS INTO

08:32:23 THE VE FLOOD ZONE.

08:32:25 THAT MEANS THAT THEY CANNOT BUILD ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF

08:32:28 THOSE BUILDINGS.

08:32:29 ALL THOSE REAL PRETTY PICTURES OF CAFE AND EVERYTHING

08:32:32 WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND ON THE BOARDWALK, NO,

08:32:35 THEY'VE GOT TO GO UPSTAIRS TO EAT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T

08:32:37 BUILD ANYTHING DOWN THERE BECAUSE OF LEWA.

08:32:42 WE WANT OVERLAY DISTRICT.

08:32:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SANITIZE THE MIKE AND THE NEXT

08:32:53 SPEAKER.

08:33:14 >> BEFORE YOU START MY TIME, I WANT TO KNOW, DID YOU ALL




08:33:18 GET MY HANDOUTS THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SENT UPSTAIRS TO

08:33:21 YOU?

08:33:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE HAVE THEM.

08:33:23 >> AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO KNOW HOW DO I KNOW WHEN MY

08:33:26 SCREEN IS BEING SHARED?

08:33:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, I KNOW YOU WERE IN THE

08:33:30 BACKGROUND, BUT WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.

08:33:32 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

08:33:34 >> ALL RIGHTY.

08:33:35 [OATH ADMINISTERED]

08:33:39 >> YES.

08:33:40 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

08:33:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

08:33:42 WE HAVE THE HANDOUT IN FRONT OF US.

08:33:44 WE'LL FOLLOW ALONG.

08:33:45 >> HOW DO I KNOW WHEN MY SCREEN -- WHAT I'M PUTTING HERE

08:33:49 IS BEING SHARED?

08:33:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE IT.

08:33:51 WE SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED DOWNTOWN, WEST RIVER, SOUTH TAMPA

08:33:56 SHEET.

08:33:57 >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.

08:33:59 I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.

08:34:01 RECENTLY YOU'VE BEEN SHOWN POPULATION TABLES THAT SEEM TO

08:34:04 SHOW THERE IS NO PROBLEM IN SOUTH TAMPA.

08:34:06 WELL, THE COMP PLAN TALKS ABOUT GROWTH, SO HERE IS THE




08:34:09 TABLE FOR GROWTH.

08:34:10 SOUTH TAMPA HAS THE HIGHEST GROWTH IN THE CITY WHEN YOU

08:34:14 TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE TINY NUMBERS FOR DOWNTOWN

08:34:17 ARTIFICIALLY SKEW THEIR PERCENTAGES.

08:34:20 THIS VIOLATES THE COMP PLAN WHICH STATES THERE ARE SIX

08:34:25 LEVELS OF INTENSITY TO INDICATE WHERE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD

08:34:27 BE FOCUSED.

08:34:28 SOUTH TAMPA IS LEVEL ONE.

08:34:29 NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

08:34:31 ACCORDING TO THE COMP PLAN, WE SHOULD BE TENTH IN GROWTH,

08:34:35 NOT FIRST.

08:34:36 THE AREA SOUTH OF GANDY AND WEST OF DALE MABRY HAS

08:34:42 EXPLODED WITH MULTIFAMILY GROWTH.

08:34:45 ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, THERE WERE 3,858

08:34:50 MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN 2016.

08:34:52 IF ALL THE CURRENT REZONINGS ARE APPROVED, 4,389 MORE

08:34:57 MULTIFAMILY UNITS WILL BE ADDED IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.

08:35:00 THAT IS A 115% INCREASE, MORE THAN DOUBLING THE

08:35:05 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

08:35:06 THAT AREA HAS GONE FROM 53% SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO 34%

08:35:11 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.

08:35:14 NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

08:35:17 THERE'S A LOT OF TALK HERE ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT THE

08:35:22 COURTS LOOK AT HOW THE OWNER CAN DEVELOP AT THE TIME OF

08:35:26 PURCHASE.




08:35:26 THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY RIGHT THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS.

08:35:30 THE RESIDENTS HAVE PREEXISTING PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND THEY

08:35:32 HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THE ZONING WILL PROTECT THE

08:35:36 DENSITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

08:35:37 IF YOU HAVE TO GET A REZONING, THAT'S NOT A REASONABLE

08:35:41 EXPECTATION.

08:35:41 IT IS LAND SPECULATION.

08:35:43 BUYER BEWARE.

08:35:44 WE CANNOT SAFELY EVACUATION.

08:35:51 THE TRBC SAYS OUR EVACUATION TIME IS TWICE AS LONG AS

08:35:56 REQUIRED.

08:35:57 CITY COUNCIL'S NUMBER ONE JOB IS OUR SAFETY.

08:36:00 OUR SAFETY TRUMPS EVERYTHING ELSE.

08:36:03 IT CERTAINLY MUST BE DEFENSIBLE IN A COURT OF LAW.

08:36:07 DEVELOPERS WANT TO PUT A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE ON A

08:36:09 TEENY TINY PENINSULA WITH A DANGEROUS CHEMICAL PLANT IN

08:36:11 AN AREA THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW IS HAZARDOUS BECAUSE IT'S

08:36:14 RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME "HIGH HAZARD AREA."

08:36:17 AND THIS TEENY TINY PENINSULA IS ON A SECOND PENINSULA

08:36:22 WHICH IS THE MOST EVACUATION-CHALLENGED PART OF THE CITY.

08:36:25 WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

08:36:26 EVERY PERSON WHO SWEARS TO THAT YOU SOUTH TAMPA HAS NO

08:36:30 TRAFFIC PROBLEMS OR THEY SOLVED THE EVACUATION PROBLEM

08:36:32 WITH A BUS STOP AND SHELTER SPACE, WHICH THE WELL-HEELED

08:36:36 RESIDENTS WILL EAGERLY UTILIZE, THAT THE SELMON EXTENSION




08:36:41 SOLVES EVERYTHING, THAT DEVELOPERS ARE DOING US A FAVOR

08:36:43 WHEN OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS THEY CLEAN UP

08:36:45 OUR BLIGHTED NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WE ALL SECRETLY YEARN

08:36:48 FOR MONSTER APARTMENTS.

08:36:50 EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS GETTING PAID A LOT OF MONEY

08:36:53 FOR SAYING THOSE THINGS.

08:36:54 NONE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WRITE AND CALL AND ATTEND THESE

08:36:58 MEETINGS ARE BEING PAID TO SAY WE ARE DROWNING.

08:37:01 NONE OF US ARE ON THE CLOCK.

08:37:03 THAT RIGHT THERE IS A BIG CLUE ABOUT THE RIGHT THING TO

08:37:06 DO.

08:37:06 THANK YOU.

08:37:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:37:09 I BELIEVE THAT IS IT FOR IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.

08:37:13 IF SO, MR. CREW, I KNOW WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS

08:37:19 LOGGED IN.

08:37:20 IF THEY COULD TURN ON THEIR CAMERAS AND WE CAN SWEAR THEM

08:37:25 IN.

08:37:27 >>THE CLERK: YES, THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS AND CAN NOW TURN

08:37:30 THEIR WEB CAMS ON, IF THEY WOULD, TO BE SWORN IN.

08:37:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

08:37:33 I SEE ONE GENTLEMAN.

08:37:39 IF YOU'RE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 5, PLEASE

08:37:49 TURN ON YOUR WEB CAM AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

08:37:52 OKAY.




08:37:57 THERE'S ONE PERSON MISSING.

08:38:02 OKAY.

08:38:03 THERE WE ARE.

08:38:03 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

08:38:06 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WOULD TELL THE

08:38:09 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

08:38:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

08:38:15 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

08:38:16 I SEE SHAWN, YOU GO FIRST, SIR.

08:38:24 >> ALL RIGHT.

08:38:24 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

08:38:26 IF POSSIBLE, STEPHANIE GAVE HER SOME STUFF TO PUT ON THE

08:38:31 OVERHEAD.

08:38:32 I'M NOT SURE IF SHE CAN STILL HEAR ME.

08:38:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE HAS LAND USE POLICY 8.11.6

08:38:40 HIGHLIGHTED.

08:38:42 >> OKAY.

08:38:42 PERFECT.

08:38:43 THAT'S GREAT.

08:38:44 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

08:38:45 APPRECIATE IT.

08:38:47 COUNCILMEN.

08:38:48 SHAWN BROWN, PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

08:38:52 I AM SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

08:38:55 THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION WAS NOT BRIEFED ON ANY OF




08:39:00 THIS DEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSAL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

08:39:05 ANY CONVERSATIONS OCCURRED JUST WITH MYSELF AND THE

08:39:10 DEVELOPER AND ELISE.

08:39:12 SO THE ASSOCIATION HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW

08:39:15 OR VOTE ON THIS MATTER AT ALL.

08:39:17 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DEVELOPER DID CONTACT ME,

08:39:22 BUT THEY REACHED OUT TO ME LAST WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY

08:39:24 3rd.

08:39:25 THAT WAS THE FIRST CONTACT WITH THEM TO DISCUSS THE

08:39:28 PROPOSAL.

08:39:28 DURING OUR CONVERSATION, THEY THOROUGHLY PRESENTED THEIR

08:39:31 PLANS AND ADDRESSED THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.

08:39:33 I DO APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY

08:39:35 TO DISCUSS THIS DEVELOPMENT.

08:39:37 I DO ENCOURAGE ALL POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS TO REACH OUT.

08:39:39 HOWEVER, AREA OF CONTINUED FRUSTRATION IS THAT THESE

08:39:43 CONVERSATIONS OCCUR AFTER THE DEVELOPER HAS DESIGNED

08:39:46 THERE FOR THE PROPERTY.

08:39:48 JUST DAYS BEFORE AN ACTUAL HEARING.

08:39:52 REALLY, ANY KIND OF DIALOGUE NEEDS TO OCCUR BEFORE

08:39:56 SOMETHING IS DESIGNED IN ORDER TO TRULY SAY YOU RECEIVED

08:39:58 FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

08:39:59 I HEARD THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CITY

08:40:02 COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SUCH AND WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS

08:40:04 EXPECTING BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET THE EXPECTATIONS OF




08:40:07 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE

08:40:10 PROJECT.

08:40:10 NOT CITY COUNCIL.

08:40:12 NEVERTHELESS, KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S LIKE A

08:40:15 TEACHER GIVING EXAMS BEFORE, ALL EXAMS FOR THE SEMESTER,

08:40:19 THAT FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL AND THEN TEACH AFTERWARDS.

08:40:22 OKAY, NOW I'LL TEACH.

08:40:25 THIS DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE.

08:40:27 QUITE FRANKLY, THERE IS A PRIVATE SECTOR RESPONSIBILITY,

08:40:29 LAND USE POLICY 15.1.1 THROUGH 15.1.5 THAT SHOW, TALK

08:40:37 ABOUT WAYS THAT THEY SHOULD BE REACHING OUT AHEAD OF

08:40:40 TIME.

08:40:40 AT ANY RATE, THAT BEING SAID, THIS PROJECT, I HAVE --

08:40:46 THERE IS ONE CONCERN ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE THAT I

08:40:48 HAVE WITH IT.

08:40:50 LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION REPORT ANALYSIS, IT SAYS

08:40:56 LAND USE POLICY 8.11.6, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT

08:41:01 RATTLESNAKE POINT IS A LOCATED IN TCEA ANY AND ALL

08:41:05 REZONINGS AND/OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SHALL ALSO

08:41:07 ADDRESS THE MITIGATION AND TRANSPORTATION.

08:41:10 SUCH MITIGATION WILL BE SEPARATE FROM THE PAYMENT OF

08:41:13 TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES.

08:41:14 AS I REVIEW THE REPORT ON REZONING REQUEST, PAGE FIVE,

08:41:18 THERE IS NO DISCUSSION ON THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS FROM

08:41:20 THIS PROJECT.




08:41:22 REVIEWING THE ANALYSIS DONE DATED AUGUST 2022, THIS

08:41:27 DEVELOPMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL THE OTHERS IN THE

08:41:29 AREA PROPOSED WILL GENERATE, SLASH, ATTRACT APPROXIMATELY

08:41:34 4,097 DAILY END TRIPS FOR A NET INCREASE OF 3,682 DAILY

08:41:41 TRIP ENDS AS COMPARED TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE,

08:41:44 WHICH IS 415 DAILY END TRIPS.

08:41:47 THAT CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE A VERY LARGE INCREASE RIGHT

08:41:50 THERE THAT ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA ARE GOING

08:41:54 TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON.

08:41:57 NOW, IT SHOULD BE NOTED IN THAT REPORT ON PAGE 18, IT

08:42:02 STATES THAT SHOULD BE NOTED, THE INTERSECTION OF

08:42:03 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TYSON WILL BE ADDRESSED.

08:42:05 MAY I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE, PLEASE?

08:42:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

08:42:09 >> THANK YOU.

08:42:09 IT STATES IN THAT REPORT, SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE

08:42:13 INTERSECTION OF WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AND TYSON WILL BE

08:42:16 ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE ZONING CONDITIONS FOR THE

08:42:17 PROJECT.

08:42:18 NOW, WHEN I ASKED THE DEVELOPER THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS

08:42:20 PROJECT -- ON THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS INTERSECTION, THEY

08:42:22 ACKNOWLEDGED THAT PAYING THE PORTION OF THE REQUIRED FEE

08:42:25 IS APPROPRIATE -- CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR ADDRESSING

08:42:29 THE INTERSECTION, UTILIZING THE FEES GENERATED TO DESIGN

08:42:31 AND CONSTRUCT IMPROVEMENTS TO INTERSECTION -- NOW, WHILE




08:42:37 I DO NOT DISAGREE COMPLETELY WITH THIS, I DO ARGUE THAT

08:42:41 THE DEVELOPER WASN'T ADDRESSING THIS AS PART OF ZONING --

08:42:44 I CAN TELL HAS NOT.

08:42:46 THE TRANSPORTATION REPORT STATES THAT THE PROPORTIONAL

08:42:53 COST WILL BE DETERMINED WHEN ACTUAL PERMITS ARE

08:42:55 IDENTIFIED.

08:42:55 MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED EXPANDING

08:42:57 TYSON AVENUE TO MANHATTAN AVENUE AS TOP PRIORITY --

08:43:03 LIKELY NEEDS IDENTIFIED.

08:43:04 WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE DEVELOPERS TO FACTOR THIS?

08:43:08 WHEN YOU LOOK AT TOTAL COST, 153,000, THAT'S ONLY BASED

08:43:12 OFF OF THE WESTSHORE AND GANDY INTERSECTION AND GANDY AND

08:43:16 MANHATTAN INTERSECTION FEES.

08:43:18 NOTHING HAS BEEN FACTORED IN FOR TYSON AND WESTSHORE.

08:43:21 EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THEY MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT

08:43:24 THEY WOULD IN TWO YEARS, BUT IT WOULD BE QUITE NICE TO

08:43:27 HAVE SOMETHING FACTORED IN NOW INSTEAD OF --

08:43:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

08:43:32 >> THANK YOU, GUYS.

08:43:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

08:43:33 NEXT IS JEAN.

08:43:37 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

08:43:39 YES, GO AHEAD.

08:43:48 >> AN EXTRA MINUTE, PLEASE.

08:43:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE




08:43:53 RECORD.

08:43:54 >> MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, A CITIZEN.

08:43:57 I AM A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, BUT I AM HERE

08:44:01 AS A CITIZEN TO OPPOSE YET ANOTHER REZONING REQUEST FOR

08:44:05 ANOTHER MEGA-APARTMENT COMPLEX.

08:44:08 WE SUBMIT TO YOU, ALL OF US, COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL

08:44:12 EVIDENCE BACKED BY THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH

08:44:15 SHAWN POINTED OUT, WILL GENERATE ANOTHER 4,097 TRIPS ON

08:44:20 OUR FAILING ROADS, ASSUMING THE NEW GANDY OVERPASS WILL

08:44:23 SOMEHOW REDUCE TRAFFIC BY 30%.

08:44:25 BUT WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT.

08:44:27 THE STUDY ALSO SHOWED THAT PERMITS ARE REQUIRED AT THE

08:44:30 WESTSHORE GANDY, GANDY, MANHATTAN WE KNOW THE

08:44:33 IMPROVEMENTS $2.8 MILLION.

08:44:35 THEIR SHARE $153,000.

08:44:37 WOW.

08:44:38 IMPACT FEES ARE NOMINAL.

08:44:40 WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

08:44:42 BUT WE THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OUR HOMEOWNERS WILL HAVE TO

08:44:45 PAY THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH OUR PROPERTY TAXES.

08:44:50 BUT AS WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER, THEY SAID 35% I THINK WAS

08:44:56 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND THE REST ARE APARTMENTS.

08:44:58 SO THE APARTMENTS AREN'T GOING TO PAY ANYTHING.

08:45:01 THEY PAY NOTHING.

08:45:03 WE DO AS TAXPAYERS.




08:45:03 ON OUR HOMES.

08:45:06 THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS WILL NOT HELP THE FAILED LEVEL

08:45:10 OF SERVICE ROADWAYS.

08:45:11 NO MATTER WHAT WE FAIL.

08:45:13 WE FALL BELOW THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

08:45:15 AND IT CAUSES UNDUE STRESS, BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT OUR

08:45:18 PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL STRESS BECAUSE THE CITY

08:45:22 DESIGNATED US AS A TRAFFIC CONCURRENCY EXCEPTION AREA.

08:45:26 SO WITH THAT DESIGNATION, WE HAVE NO MORE PROBLEMS,

08:45:30 RIGHT?

08:45:30 NO.

08:45:31 NOT FOR US.

08:45:31 WE HAVE PLENTY OF PROBLEMS.

08:45:33 ALSO CONSIDER, BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEW MEGA-APARTMENT

08:45:37 COMPLEXES, IT WILL MAKE US HAVE TO DRINK TOILET WATER.

08:45:41 AGAIN, WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THAT NASTY THING.

08:45:45 WE REITERATE THE NEED FOR A MORATORIUM ON APPROVING ALL

08:45:48 THESE REZONINGS FOR MORE LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND

08:45:52 THIS ONE INCLUDED.

08:45:55 WE HAVE ALL THE CARPETBAGGERS AND LAND SPECULATORS COMING

08:45:59 IN HERE AND JUST LEAVING US TO PICK UP THE PIECES.

08:46:02 WE, THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH TAMPA, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY,

08:46:05 SOUTH OF GANDY, HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

08:46:09 WE WILL NOT ONLY HAVE TO PAY TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR MASSIVE

08:46:14 APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT WE WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES




08:46:17 FINANCIALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.

08:46:19 BUT THOSE CONSEQUENCES WILL BE ALSO DEADLY WHEN WE ARE

08:46:25 STUCK SITTING IN OUR CARS DURING AN EMERGENCY EVACUATION

08:46:28 AND THE WATERS FROM THE RISING STORM SURGE COME UP TO THE

08:46:31 WINDOWS IN OUR CARS AND THEN AS WE'RE ON TOP OF THEM,

08:46:36 THEY JUST KEEP CRAWLING UP 17 FEET PER THE STUDIES UP

08:46:41 UNTIL CYPRESS, WEST CYPRESS, WHEN WE HIT THE STORM SURGE.

08:46:46 THEN ONCE THE STORMWATERS RECEDE AND THE DEATH TOLLS ARE

08:46:51 MEASURED, THOSE WHO SURVIVE WILL ASK WHY AND HOW THE CITY

08:46:54 OF TAMPA LET THIS HAPPEN.

08:46:56 HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

08:46:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

08:46:59 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARTHA.

08:47:01 GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

08:47:04 >> MY NAME IS MARTHA IRA.

08:47:08 >> EXCUSE ME, SHE'S PART OF OUR REBUTTAL AND PART OF THE

08:47:11 APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL.

08:47:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, OKAY.

08:47:14 I'M SORRY, MA'AM.

08:47:16 YOU'LL HAVE YOUR TIME, BUT YOU'LL BE IN THE REBUTTAL WITH

08:47:19 MS. BATSEL.

08:47:21 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

08:47:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC

08:47:24 COMMENT?

08:47:25 MR. MANASSE, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.




08:47:28 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

08:47:30 OBVIOUSLY NOT PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE

08:47:32 QUESTION BEFORE WE WENT FURTHER TO MS. BATSEL'S REBUTTAL.

08:47:36 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE

08:47:38 WESTSHORE MARINA AREA AND STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THE

08:47:42 PDs AS WELL AS I BELIEVE ELISE BATSEL'S TEAM HAS BEEN

08:47:45 DOING THAT AS WELL ON OUR SIDE.

08:47:47 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MOST RECENT INCREMENTALS AND TOTALS.

08:47:53 ROUGHLY THAT PROJECT IS 52 ACRES, TAKEN OUT ROUGHLY ONE

08:47:57 ACRE FOR 38,474 SQUARE FEET FOR COMMERCIAL.

08:48:02 IT'S LEAVING US WITH THE 1225 DWELLING UNITS DIVIDED BY

08:48:05 THE 51 ACRES, LEAVING US 24 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

08:48:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YES, SIR.

08:48:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS

08:48:15 QUESTION FOR ME.

08:48:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GUDES, COULD YOU HOLD ONE SECOND?

08:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN I HOLD.

08:48:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON THAT JUST

08:48:25 FOR THE RECORD.

08:48:26 IS THAT THE SAME NEWPORT PROJECT THAT THE PETITIONER'S

08:48:35 PLANNER SPOKE TO AS 33 UNITS PER ACRE?

08:48:38 RYAN, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 24 UNITS PER ACRE.

08:48:45 >>RYAN MANASSE: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, THE NEWPORT PDA

08:48:48 WAS Z 07-48.

08:48:50 PER THE PD, IT IS 33 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.




08:48:53 THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THOUGH, THERE'S BEEN INCREMENTAL

08:48:55 REVIEWS AND BEEN A TALLY OF THOSE.

08:48:57 THAT'S WHAT STAFF HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO CALCULATE THOSE

08:49:00 TO GIVE THE BEST ANSWER WE COULD IN THIS TIME PERIOD.

08:49:04 WITH THE INCREMENTAL REVIEWS WE COME TO THE 1225 DWELLING

08:49:07 UNITS DIVIDED BY THE 51 ACRES, AND THAT'S ME TAKING

08:49:11 ROUGHLY ONE ACRE OFF FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USES, AND THAT

08:49:15 COMES TO THAT 24 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

08:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEING BUILT

08:49:21 OUT AT.

08:49:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: THERE ARE NUMEROUS INCREMENTAL REVIEWS

08:49:26 FOR THAT AREA.

08:49:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THAT IMPORTANT

08:49:31 CLARIFICATION.

08:49:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

08:49:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT

08:49:37 SPEAKERS MADE MENTION OF AN ACRONYM VE.

08:49:42 DO YOU RECALL THAT?

08:49:45 >>CATE WELLS: I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE MEMBER OF THE

08:49:47 PUBLIC WHO SAID THAT.

08:49:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAS IT MS. STOTTLEMYRE?

08:49:54 RYAN, DID YOU CATCH THAT ACRONYM, VE?

08:49:58 >> THAT WAS STEPHANIE POYNOR.

08:50:00 >> THAT WAS ME.

08:50:01 YES, SIR.




08:50:04 THERE ARE SEVERAL FLOOD ZONES, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND

08:50:07 EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS.

08:50:09 ACCORDING TO THE FEMA DOCUMENTS THAT I READ, THE VE FLOOD

08:50:14 ZONE CAN BE SUBJECTED TO THREE FOOT OR HIGHER WAVES

08:50:21 DURING A NORMAL PERIOD OF TIME.

08:50:25 ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD -- ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO I

08:50:30 CONSULTED WHO IS A FEMA EXPERT EXPLAINED TO ME THAT

08:50:33 THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH IN SOUTH TAMPA.

08:50:36 THERE'S CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT MORE UP NEAR -- STARTS WITH

08:50:42 AN O AND IT'S STILL IN THE CITY.

08:50:44 UP TOWARDS THAT WAY.

08:50:47 SHE SAID THERE'S ALMOST NO VE IN SOUTH TAMPA AT ALL.

08:50:51 AND SO THAT LITTLE BIT OF LAND, IT MEANS THAT THE

08:50:56 VELOCITY COMES UP MORE THAN THREE FEET.

08:50:58 AE, WHICH IS SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH,

08:51:02 THAT IS AN AREA THAT THE WAVES CAN BE MORE THAN A FOOT

08:51:08 AND A HALF TO THREE FEET.

08:51:09 AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT LIKE A

08:51:12 SORE THUMB TO ME.

08:51:14 PINELLAS HAS A SPECIAL DESIGNATION FOR A VE ZONE, WHEREAS

08:51:18 I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO.

08:51:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

08:51:20 THANK YOU.

08:51:20 MS. WELLS OR MR. MANASSE, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT OR DO

08:51:24 WE HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT?




08:51:31 >>CATE WELLS: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO

08:51:34 TESTIFY.

08:51:34 I'M HERE AS LEGAL COUNSEL TO THE CITY.

08:51:39 CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION TO RESPOND TO

08:51:43 ANYTHING THAT MS. POYNOR MENTIONED.

08:51:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE I'LL ASK THE --

08:51:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PETITIONER.

08:51:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- YEAH, WHEN THEY COME BACK.

08:51:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, JUST ONE MORE POINT JUST TO

08:51:57 CLARIFY.

08:51:58 I'M SORRY TO GO BACK.

08:51:59 THIS IS GOING WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S LAST QUESTION.

08:52:02 JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

08:52:05 ORIGINAL Z 07-48 WAS ENTITLED FOR THE 33 DWELLING UNITS

08:52:09 PER ACRE.

08:52:09 IT WAS BUILT AT 24, WHICH IS THE CALCULATION I DID THERE

08:52:12 THROUGH THE INCREMENTAL.

08:52:14 I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THE FLOOD ZONES, COUNCILMAN

08:52:20 GUDES.

08:52:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.

08:52:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

08:52:23 WE WILL GO TO MS. BATSEL FOR THE REBUTTAL.

08:52:29 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

08:52:30 BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY ISSUES, WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE

08:52:34 ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADDRESS EACH AND EVERY ISSUE, IF YOU




08:52:36 DON'T MIND.

08:52:37 WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE?

08:52:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GAVE YOU AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES AT

08:52:42 THE BEGINNING.

08:52:43 HOW MUCH TIME ARE YOU ASKING FOR?

08:52:47 >> WELL, THERE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TESTIMONY ON ALL KINDS

08:52:50 OF TECHNICAL ISSUES, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TECHNICAL

08:52:52 EXPERTS THAT CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES, SO WE WOULD

08:52:55 LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO EACH OF THE ITEMS THAT

08:53:01 -- OF TECHNICAL NATURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS BROUGHT UP.

08:53:03 WE WOULD APPRECIATE AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES.

08:53:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

08:53:08 ANY OBJECTION?

08:53:09 GO AHEAD.

08:53:11 SO YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES TOTAL THEN?

08:53:14 OKAY.

08:53:14 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

08:53:19 NICOLE LAMB WITH OUR COASTAL ENGINEERS WILL START

08:53:26 RESPONDING.

08:53:27 >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

08:53:28 JUST REALLY QUICK.

08:53:29 WE HAVE OTHERS JUMP IN.

08:53:31 SO WITH REGARDS TO WHAT RYAN MENTIONED ON THE DENSITY,

08:53:35 SPECIFICALLY WITH WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT, AS I

08:53:38 MENTIONED BEFORE THAT PROJECT IS NOT COMPLETELY BUILT




08:53:40 OUT.

08:53:44 IT IS SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO

08:53:46 ACCOUNT.

08:53:47 THE AREA AS FAR AS THE FLOOD ZONE IS CONCERNED IS

08:53:50 ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED,

08:53:55 VELOCITY ZONES SHALL PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WE ALREADY

08:53:58 ADDRESSED WITH POTENTIAL DESIGN.

08:54:00 THE FIRST FLOOR OF ALMOST A UNIT SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING,

08:54:06 SO WE ARE PREPARED TO MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH

08:54:11 VELOCITY ZONES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

08:54:16 >>ELISE BATSEL: SECONDLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO

08:54:23 DENSITY AS WELL.

08:54:24 >> CYNTHIA SPIDELL, STEARNS WEAVER.

08:54:30 I CAN APPRECIATE THE LITTLE ACCOUNTING LESSON THAT WAS

08:54:34 DONE.

08:54:34 HOWEVER, IT'S REALLY MISLEADING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

08:54:39 ACCOUNT FOR INTEGRATION OF MIX OF USES SO IT'S REALLY

08:54:42 HARD TO DELINEATE THE TWO.

08:54:44 I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT YOUR COMP PLAN FOR

08:54:46 CMU-35 AND FOR URBAN MIXED USE 60 WHICH IS WHERE

08:54:50 WESTSHORE MARINA IS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS YOU TO USE EITHER

08:54:54 THE F.A.R. OR THE DENSITY WHICHEVER IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO

08:54:56 THE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT SAYS IF YOU ARE GONNA USE F.A.R.

08:55:01 FOR RESIDENTIAL THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CHARACTER

08:55:04 AND SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT.




08:55:07 SO TO ME THAT MEANS HOW DOES IT LOOK, WHAT DOES IT LOOK

08:55:12 LIKE, NOT WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE UNIT.

08:55:16 YOU NEED THAT DENSITY TO SUPPORT YOUR SURROUNDING MIXED

08:55:19 USE ENVIRONMENT.

08:55:20 SO IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT THE

08:55:23 WRONG WAY.

08:55:23 YOU ARE TRYING TO LIMIT HOW MANY NUMBERS OF UNITS ARE

08:55:27 THERE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FORM, LOOKING AT

08:55:31 PROXIMITY, LOOKING AT AVAILABILITY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT

08:55:34 THE COMP PLAN IS DIRECTING TO YOU DO AND WANTS YOU TO

08:55:36 HAVE PEOPLE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO GET THEM OUT OF CARS,

08:55:39 TO GET THEM FROM DRIVING, AND OUR ENVIRONMENT IS CHANGING

08:55:45 PEOPLE WANT DESTINATIONS, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO

08:55:49 GO OUT AND EXPERIENCE THINGS, AND NOT HAVE TO GET IN

08:55:51 THEIR CAR AND DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO GET SOMETHING.

08:56:00 THANK YOU.

08:56:00 >>ELISE BATSEL: A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES BEFORE WE

08:56:08 CONCLUDE.

08:56:09 UNDER FLORIDA LAW, CAN'T BE EXPECTED AS COMPETENT,

08:56:13 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ON ANY TECHNICAL MATTERS THAT WOULD

08:56:16 REQUIRE AN EXPERT OPINION, LIKE TRAFFIC, LIKE EVACUATION,

08:56:20 LIKE CHEMICAL FORMULATOR ISSUES.

08:56:25 FOR THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO -- INTRODUCE

08:56:29 YOURSELF AND GIVE YOUR EXPERIENCE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

08:56:32 >> OKAY, SURE.




08:56:34 I'M MARTHA IRA, I'M IN THE JACKSONVILLE OFFICE.

08:56:40 I HAVE BEEN A CONSULTING IN THE AREA OF HIGHLY REACTIVE

08:56:47 CHEMICALS FOR 25 YEARS AND I HAD 14 YEARS BEFORE THAT

08:56:50 WORKING IN AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY, METALLURGIST BY

08:56:55 DEGREE.

08:56:55 I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHAT TWO OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS

08:57:01 MADE.

08:57:03 TWO OF THEM WERE CONCERNED ABOUT EVACUATION PLANNING, AND

08:57:08 THEY BASED THEIR CONCERNS ON AN ASSUMPTION THAT IF THERE

08:57:12 WERE A RELEASE FROM CHEMICAL FORMULATORS THAT THE ENTIRE

08:57:17 POPULATION OF RATTLESNAKE POINT WOULD NEED TO BE

08:57:19 EVACUATED.

08:57:20 BUT RESPONSE TO CHEMICAL RELEASE AT THAT FACILITY IS

08:57:25 SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE TAMPA BAY LOCAL EMERGENCY

08:57:28 PLANNING COMMITTEE HAZARDS MATERIAL PLAN, THE 2020 OAPC

08:57:36 HAZ-MAT PLAN IS AVAILABLE ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND IT LISTS

08:57:40 CHEMICAL FORMULATORS AS ONE OF THE FACILITIES THEY WOULD

08:57:44 ADDRESS IN THE EVENTS OF AN ACCIDENTAL RELEASE.

08:57:46 AND THEY EXPLAIN IN THEIR PLAN THAT IF THERE WERE A LARGE

08:57:51 RELEASE OF TOXIC GAS, THE INCIDENTS COMMANDER WHO ARRIVES

08:57:54 ON THE SCENE WOULD MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT

08:57:58 EVACUATION OR SHELTER IN PLACE IS THE PROPER SPOT TO THAT

08:58:02 RELEASE.

08:58:03 AND THEY ALSO SPECIFICALLY STATE ON PAGE 7 OF THE PLAN

08:58:08 THAT FOR A LARGE RELEASE THEY WOULD NOT EVACUATE




08:58:13 RESIDENTS THROUGH A CLOUD OF GAS, THEY WOULD ISSUE

08:58:17 SHELTER IN PLACE ORDER FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT

08:58:20 TAKES FOR THE GAS TO DISSIPATE AND FOR THEM TO GET THE

08:58:24 RELEASE UNDER CONTROL.

08:58:25 SO THEIR CONCERNS ACTUALLY ARE IN THE PLAN THAT EXISTS

08:58:29 THAT IS UPDATED EVERY YEAR.

08:58:31 >>ELISE BATSEL: CAN WE HOLD ONE SECOND BEFORE QUESTIONS?

08:58:40 COULD WE SHARE THE SCREEN, MR. CREW, ONCE AGAIN, THAT

08:58:45 GOES ALONG WITH MS. ILER'S TESTIMONY?

08:59:01 OKAY.

08:59:08 THE GRAPHICS ARE HELPFUL.

08:59:09 I KNOW SOMEONE MENTIONED WE ARE 400 BOA, BUT ACTUALLY

08:59:14 THIS PROPERTY IS A THOUSAND FEET AWAY, 957 FEET FROM THE

08:59:20 RAIL CARS.

08:59:23 IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE TWO OTHER REZONINGS

08:59:30 THAT YOU RECENTLY APPROVED, BOTH AT SAGES, AND WESTSHORE

08:59:35 MARINA ARE ACTUALLY MUCH CLOSER.

08:59:39 840 FEET AND 319 FEET.

08:59:49 ALSO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT INDUSTRIAL

08:59:55 DEVELOPMENT HAS REDEVELOPED ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA.

08:59:57 THERE ARE AREAS LIKE CHANNELSIDE AND PALMETTO WHERE

09:00:01 LITERALLY YOU HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES WITH HAZARDOUS

09:00:06 CHEMICALS 190 FEET, 260 FEET.

09:00:09 THIS IS HOW TAMPA HAS DEVELOPED OUT OVER TIME.

09:00:20 WE HAVE GOT HARBOR ISLAND, AGAIN, SHORT DISTANCES.




09:00:29 AND WE HAVE GOT THE PORT OF TAMPA.

09:00:32 AGAIN, 12 -- LET'S SEE, 800 FEET, 500 FEET.

09:00:37 THE POINT BEING, THIS IS HOW INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS

09:00:40 REDEVELOPED IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER TIME.

09:00:46 THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE REGARDING TRAFFIC AND REGARDING

09:00:51 EVACUATION, AND I WOULD REMIND COUNCIL THAT COUNCIL HAS A

09:00:55 POLICY CHANGE TO TRANSPORTATION EXCEPTION AREA.

09:00:59 WE TALKED LAST YEAR ACTUALLY IN 2019 ABOUT POSSIBLY

09:01:02 CHANGING THE FEES.

09:01:05 IF COUNCIL FEELS THAT IS NOT ADEQUATE, YOU HAVE THE

09:01:08 LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THAT.

09:01:11 THIS PROJECT, WE MEET EACH AND EVERY STANDARD OF YOUR

09:01:16 CODE, EACH AND EVERY STANDARD OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

09:01:18 AND THERE IS NO COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ON THE

09:01:21 RECORD FOR THIS COUNCIL TO DENY THE REZONING REQUEST.

09:01:26 THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT DENSITY, BUT YOUR

09:01:29 PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS, YOUR CITY PLANNER, BOTH THE

09:01:31 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, AND BOTH OUR PROFESSIONAL

09:01:34 PLANNERS, ALL CONSIDERED DENSITY AS PART OF THEIR

09:01:38 DETERMINATION ON COMPATIBILITY, AND THAT IS THE ONLY

09:01:42 SUBSTANTIAL, COMPETENT EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED

09:01:45 INTO THE RECORD FOR THE DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY.

09:01:48 WE CERTAINLY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

09:01:50 I KNOW MR. DINGFELDER MIGHT HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL

09:01:52 QUESTIONS, AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY IF ANY OTHER




09:02:00 EXPERTS OR CITY STAFF MEMBERS ARE QUESTIONED TO REBUT

09:02:04 THAT TESTIMONY.

09:02:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:02:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:02:15 THANK YOU, MS. BATSEL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

09:02:22 I GUESS I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION FROM YOUR TESTIMONY,

09:02:26 AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS

09:02:31 REGARD

09:02:37 TELL US ABOUT A GAS CLOUD FROM A FACILITY LIKE THIS ONE,

09:02:42 BUT I UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY MANUFACTURED ENCLOSURE REASON

09:02:46 AND HAS SOME STORAGE AS WELL, IN TANKS AS WELL AS MOBILE

09:02:56 TRAIN CARS.

09:02:59 SO LET'S ASSUME A DAY THAT'S NOT WINDY, YOU KNOW, A

09:03:10 SUMMER DAY, THE WIND IS NOT BLOWING, AND LET'S EVEN

09:03:14 ASSUME THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SLIGHT WIND DIRECTION ONE

09:03:19 MILE-AN-HOUR TOWARD THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FROM THIS

09:03:24 PLANT, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID, I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE

09:03:28 THINGS FAIL, BUT IF SOMETHING BLOWS OUT, AND I SAW ON THE

09:03:33 NEWS IN THE LAST DAY OR TWO A NITRO GENERAL PLANT UP IN

09:03:37 GEORGIA HAD AN EXPLOSION -- I'M SORRY?

09:03:41 >> IT WAS A PLANT IN GAINESVILLE, GEORGIA.

09:03:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY HAD A CHICKEN PLANT AND THEY

09:03:48 LOST SIX PEOPLE RIGHT THERE AT THE FACILITY.

09:03:52 THAT WAS A DIFFERENT CHEMICAL, NITROGEN.

09:03:55 BUT TALK ABOUT WHAT A CHLORINE GAS DOES IN A VERY LOW




09:04:00 WIND ENVIRONMENT IN A SLIGHT, LET'S SAY, BREEZE GOING

09:04:04 WEST TOWARDS THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

09:04:08 AND I AM EVEN TALKING ABOUT EVACUATING THEM.

09:04:11 I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT IF THEY GET STUCK THERE AND IT

09:04:14 COMES BLOWING ACROSS THE ROAD AND THEN STARTS COMING INTO

09:04:16 THAT PROJECT?

09:04:17 IS THAT A CONCERN TO YOU?

09:04:19 IS THAT A GOOD PLACE TO BE BUILDING ANY TYPE OF

09:04:22 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF 35 UNITS PER ACRE?

09:04:28 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING?

09:04:30 I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING?

09:04:32 >> I'M NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO

09:04:34 BUILD A FACILITY.

09:04:35 THAT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE ENOUGH

09:04:38 INFORMATION TO SAY.

09:04:39 I MEAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO

09:04:42 MODEL THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO DO A CONVERSION MODEL,

09:04:47 SOMETHING REQUIRED TO BE DONE, IN FACT THE FACILITY

09:04:49 OWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO DO THOSE DISPERSION MODELS ONCE

09:04:53 EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND WORST CASE SCENARIO.

09:04:58 I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU AN ANSWER --

09:05:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING.

09:05:04 UP TO NOW, THE DIVERSION MODELS HAVE BEEN BASED UPON

09:05:08 NOBODY LIVING ANYWHERE NEARBY.

09:05:11 SO NOW WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL -- STAFF SHOWED US




09:05:19 THAT THERE'S SOME EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DOWN AT THE BOTTOM

09:05:24 OF THIS PROJECT DOWN THERE AT NEWPORT, WHATEVER THEY ARE

09:05:31 CALLING IT NOW, BUT THERE'S ONE PROJECTS THOSE FOLKS

09:05:34 COULD GO SOMEWHERE.

09:05:36 BUT LET'S SAY UNDER THE SCENARIO THAT I JUST DESCRIBED TO

09:05:39 YOU, LET'S SAY A VERY LOW BREEZE, 1 MILE-AN-HOUR, HALF A

09:05:45 MILE-AN-HOUR BREEZE, WEST OUT OF THE PLANT, WHAT DOES THE

09:05:48 CHLORINE DO?

09:05:49 DOES GOT UP?

09:05:50 DOES IT STAY DOWN?

09:05:51 WHAT DOES IT DO?

09:05:52 >> IT'S HEAVIER THAN AIR SO IT TENDS TO TRAVEL ALONG THE

09:05:55 GROUND.

09:05:56 BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TUSH REIGNS THERE IS IN

09:05:59 THE ATMOSPHERE AT THE TIME, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, WIND

09:06:03 DIRECTION.

09:06:03 IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE RELEASE RATE FROM THE CONTAINERS,

09:06:09 HOW FAST IS IT BEING RELEASED FROM THE CONTAINER?

09:06:11 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A VERY SMALL LEAK FROM THE VALVE ON

09:06:16 ONE OF THE TANK CONTAINERS? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE

09:06:18 WHOLE TANK CONTAINER OPENING?

09:06:20 THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF --

09:06:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY

09:06:26 PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WORST CASE SCENARIO.

09:06:29 LET'S SAY THE BIGGEST TANK BLOWS OUT, AND THAT GOES TO




09:06:36 THE GROUND IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION AT A LOW DISSIPATION

09:06:41 RATE.

09:06:42 WHAT HAPPENS?

09:06:42 >> WELL, IN THAT CASE, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU WOULD HAVE A

09:06:46 LARGE RELEASE AND IT COULD GO OUT FOR MILES FROM THE

09:06:49 POINT OF RELEASE, AND IN THAT'S A SCENARIO IN WHICH THEY

09:06:54 WOULD RECOMMEND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS WOULD RECOMMEND

09:06:56 SHELTERING IN PLACE, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANTS PEOPLE TO

09:06:59 COME OUT AND MOVE THROUGH THAT.

09:07:01 BUT THOSE KINDS -- AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I AM NOT

09:07:05 MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE

09:07:07 THAT'S NOT MY GOAL HERE.

09:07:09 BUT THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE

09:07:15 CITY, AND THROUGHOUT OTHER CITIES, AND THE PLAN --

09:07:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO ME, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT

09:07:26 THAT, AND THOSE AREN'T THE ISSUES IN FRONT OF US.

09:07:29 MY QUESTION, MY LAST QUESTION IS, OKAY, IF YOU ARE CLOSED

09:07:34 IN, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, STAY IN PLACE?

09:07:38 SHELTER IN PLACE.

09:07:39 IF I AM IN ONE OF THOSE APARTMENTS ON THE SECOND OR THIRD

09:07:42 FLOOR, WHATEVER IT IS, AND I HAPPEN TO BE UNFORTUNATELY

09:07:46 THE CLOSEST APARTMENT TO THIS CHEMICAL PLANT, AND I AM

09:07:49 SHELTERING IN PLACE, AND OF COURSE A BABY, I WOULD HAVE

09:07:59 THE INTELLIGENCE TO TURN ON MY AIR CONDITIONER, I DON'T

09:08:01 KNOW, BUT AM I SAFE SHELTERING IN PLACE LIKE THAT, OR IS




09:08:04 IT POSSIBLE THE CHLORINE COULD GET IN MY APARTMENT AND

09:08:10 KILL ME?

09:08:10 >> WELL, THE SHELTER IN PLACE WOULD BE BROADCAST OVER

09:08:18 TELEVISION, RADIO, WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO TURN OFF THE AIR

09:08:22 CONDITIONING AND SEAL THE DOORS, AND SEAL WINDOWS, THOSE

09:08:27 TYPES OF OPENINGS.

09:08:33 COULD IT GET IN AND KILL YOU?

09:08:35 I CAN'T SAY "YES" OR "NO" BECAUSE I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE

09:08:38 TO HAVE DATA ON THE RELEASE, THE AMOUNT OF CHLORINE,

09:08:41 ET CETERA.

09:08:42 I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU DO A WORST-CASE SCENARIO

09:08:49 ANALYSIS OR ALTERNATIVE RELEASE ANALYSIS, WHICH IS

09:08:52 REQUIRED BY DPA FOR THOSE FACILITIES TO DO AT LEAST ONCE

09:08:56 EVERY FIVE YEARS, YOU CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR ENCLOSURES THAT

09:09:03 STOP THE RELEASE OF THE CHLORINE OUT INTO THE

09:09:06 ENVIRONMENT, AND SO THERE IS A WAY TO CALCULATE THAT AND

09:09:09 TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW THE ENCLOSURE ATTENUATES THE

09:09:15 RELEASE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER HERE

09:09:19 WITHOUT ACTUAL DATA, YOU KNOW.

09:09:23 FROM A REGULAR STAND REGULATORY STANDPOINT, IT'S

09:09:28 INCUMBENT UPON THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY TO

09:09:31 KEEP THEIR FACILITY SAFE.

09:09:33 THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO SO BY THE EPA AND THE FLORIDA

09:09:35 STATUTE, BUT THERE'S ALSO THAT RULE WHICH BECAME

09:09:38 EFFECTIVE IN THE LATE 1990s.




09:09:41 SO THEY HAD 20 YEARS TO IMPLEMENT SAFEGUARDS TO KEEP

09:09:46 THEIR FACILITY SAFE.

09:09:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXPLICIT IN YOUR ANSWER TO ME SAYS

09:09:53 THAT IF I HAPPEN TO BE IN MY APARTMENT, AND I DON'T EVEN

09:09:57 KNOW THAT SYSTEM HAS BLOWN UP OR WHATEVER, AND I HAVE NO

09:10:03 WAY OF EVEN KNOWING THAT THE GAS CLOUD IS COMING TO ME,

09:10:06 AND I AM IN MY APARTMENT AND MY AIR CONDITIONER IS

09:10:08 RUNNING, THEN IMPLICIT AS YOU ARE SAYING OR NOT SAYING TO

09:10:13 ME IS THAT THAT COULD KILL ME.

09:10:16 IS THAT CORRECT?

09:10:20 >> WELL, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW.

09:10:24 IT DEPENDS ON THE CONCENTRATION.

09:10:26 IT CAN KILL YOU IF IT'S CONCENTRATED IF THE CONCENTRATION

09:10:33 RATES ARE HIGHER WHICH IS 10 D.P.M. BUT WHETHER OR NOT

09:10:37 THAT'S GOING TO MAKE TO THE THAT FACILITY UNDER THE

09:10:39 CONDITIONS THAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED, I DON'T KNOW.

09:10:41 SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU A DEFINITE ANSWER YES OR NO.

09:10:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

09:10:47 THANK YOU.

09:10:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:10:48 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:10:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. BATSEL, CAN YOU OR ONE OF YOUR

09:10:56 EXPERTS THERE MIGHT KNOW, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE

09:10:59 TALKING ABOUT VE, WHAT THE ACRONYM IS?

09:11:03 >>ELISE BATSEL: I WOULD ASK NICOLE LANG TO COME AND




09:11:06 ADDRESS THAT, PLEASE.

09:11:08 >> NICOLE: VE IS WITH RESPECT TO THE VELOCITY ZONE, IS

09:11:15 WHAT FEMA CALLS IT.

09:11:17 AND SO IT I HAD FACE THE AREAS ALONG THE COASTLINE WHICH

09:11:26 A MAP HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY FEMA JUST WITHIN THE LAST

09:11:29 YEAR.

09:11:30 IT ACTUALLY HAS ADOPTED THOSE.

09:11:34 THE MANAGER HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED THE USE OF THOSE AS

09:11:38 THE CURRENT CRITERIA, AND FEMA ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING THE

09:11:42 MOST RECENT.

09:11:44 THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED ON THOSE NEW MAPS INCLUDE

09:11:46 WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS A LIMWA LINE.

09:11:52 IT STANDS FOR LIMIT WE HAVE ACTION, MODERATE WE HAVE

09:12:00 ACTION.

09:12:00 IT IDENTIFIES THE LIMIT BASED ON MODELING, STORMWATER

09:12:04 MODELING FOR THAT COASTLINE, FOR WE HAVE ACTION TO

09:12:08 IDENTIFY AN AREA ON THE LAND THAT HAS WE HAVE ACTION UP

09:12:12 TO THREE FEET, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS

09:12:17 BETWEEN THREE FEET AND ONE AND A HALF FEET.

09:12:20 WE HAVE IDENTIFIED BOTH OF THOSE LIMITS ON THE SITE PLAN

09:12:23 THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION, AND THE STORM

09:12:27 EVENT ITSELF ACTUALLY SPEAKS TO THAT WE HAVE ACTION FOR

09:12:32 WHICH THE PLAN FOR THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES HAVE TAKEN

09:12:37 INTO ACCOUNT, SUCH THAT THE FINISHED FLOOR, BASED ON CITY

09:12:41 OF TAMPA CODE REQUIREMENTS, IS REQUIRED TO BE A FOOT EVEN




09:12:45 HIGHER THAN WHAT THAT WE HAVE ACTION OR THAT FEMA

09:12:49 ELEVATION IS IDENTIFIED ON THE MAPS.

09:12:52 DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

09:12:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS SO.

09:12:58 I AM JUST TRYING TO DIG OUT WHAT THE ACRONYM WAS, THE

09:13:02 DETAILS OF THAT ACRONYM.

09:13:03 YOU EXPLAINED IT TO ME SO I WILL JUST TAKE THAT INTO

09:13:06 CONSIDERATION.

09:13:06 >> OKAY.

09:13:08 AND I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION MAYBE WITH REGARD TO THE

09:13:11 FINISHED FLOOR.

09:13:13 I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT TOTALLY.

09:13:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.

09:13:17 SO YES, EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

09:13:19 >> SO BASED ON CITY OF TAMPA CODE, THE FINISHED FLOOR

09:13:23 REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS THE FLOOR THAT YOU WOULD WALK ON,

09:13:26 SO YOUR TILE WOULD BE ON THE FINISHED FLOOR, OF THE

09:13:29 APARTMENT, SAY, THAT FINISHED FLOOR IS REQUIRED TO BE A

09:13:32 FOOT ABOVE WHAT THE 100 YEAR ELEVATION IS SHOWN, THE FEMA

09:13:36 ELEVATION SHOWN ON THE MAP.

09:13:38 SO SAY OUR ELEVATION IS AT 11, OUR FINISHED FLOOR

09:13:45 REQUIREMENT WOULD BE 12 NORMALLY.

09:13:47 WITHIN THE CODIA, THAT IS WATER WORD OF THE LINE, THERE'S

09:13:51 ACTUALLY ADDITIONAL CRITERIA BY CODE THAT ESTABLISHES

09:13:54 EVEN THAT FOUNDATION OF THE BUILDING IS REQUIRED TO BE A




09:13:58 FOOT ABOVE THAT ELEVATION.

09:14:01 SO IF THERE'S A PODIUM TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS

09:14:05 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THIS CASE, IN THAT ENTIRETY OF

09:14:08 THE FOUNDATION FOR THE FLOOR HAS TO BE A FOOT, THE LOWEST

09:14:12 MEMBER HAS TO BE A FOOT ABOVE THAT ELEVATION ON THE FEMA

09:14:16 MAP.

09:14:16 SO YOUR FINISHED FLOOR WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER THAN IF IT

09:14:19 WAS A FLAT ON GRADE.

09:14:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

09:14:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO?

09:14:27 NO?

09:14:28 ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?

09:14:29 ALL RIGHT.

09:14:30 DO WE HAVE A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE?

09:14:35 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:14:37 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

09:14:39 FROM COUNCILMAN -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS HIS HAND UP.

09:14:43 YES, SIR?

09:14:46 MR. DINGFELDER.

09:14:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE WE CLOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO

09:14:51 REITERATE POSSIBILITIES TO MS. BATSEL.

09:14:55 I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS AN ACTUAL CLIENT IN THE ROOM.

09:14:58 I KNOW SHE HAS A LOT OF EXPERTS.

09:14:59 I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS A CLIENT.

09:15:01 THIS IS JUST ME TALKING.




09:15:03 BY MY CALCULATION, THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM

09:15:05 OUR STAFF SHOWS THAT THERE'S AN AVERAGE OF 23.45 DWELLING

09:15:12 UNITS PER ACRE ON AT LEAST FOUR NEARBY PROJECTS.

09:15:19 TYSON, TRASK, ONE ON INTERBAY.

09:15:24 23.45 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

09:15:28 HOW DO YOU GET TO 35 UNITS PER ACRE WITH F.A.R., OR

09:15:34 WHATEVER, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S STILL 35 UNITS PER

09:15:37 ACRE.

09:15:38 AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 11.55 UNITS PER ACRE HIGHER THAN

09:15:48 WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED IN THIS PAST YEAR OR SO, AND WHAT'S

09:15:53 BEING BUILT OUT AT 24 UNITS PER ACRE.

09:16:03 SO WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, THIS COUNCILMAN WOULD LOVE TO

09:16:08 SEE MS. BATSEL REQUEST A CONTINUANCE, GO BACK TO THE

09:16:12 DRAWING BOARD, AND COME BACK WITH A PROJECT THAT IS FAR

09:16:15 LESS DENSE, AND WHAT'S MORE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE

09:16:19 PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 27-136 WHICH SPEAKS TO CONSISTENCY

09:16:23 AND COMPATIBILITY, IN THAT RANGE OF DENSITY.

09:16:31 THE RESPONSE I GOT EARLIER WAS, WELL, WE HAVE TO MAXIMIZE

09:16:35 DENSITY IN ORDER TO BUILD OUT THESE AMENITIES, AND THAT'S

09:16:40 ALL FINE AND GOOD, BUT IN TERMS OF BEING CONSISTENT AND

09:16:44 COMPATIBLE, WHICH OUR CODE REQUIRES, I THINK YOU ARE FAR

09:16:49 OFF.

09:16:49 I THINK YOU ARE AT LEAST 25% HIGH.

09:16:53 SO THAT'S MY SUGGESTION, TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD,

09:16:58 COME BACK IN A MONTH FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, WITH A PROJECT




09:17:07 THAT'S LESS DENSE IN TERMS OF -- NOT ONLY DWELLING UNITS

09:17:12 PER ACRE BUT IT ALSO TRANSLATES INTO THE TOTAL TRAFFIC,

09:17:16 IT TRANSLATES IN THE TRIPS, PEAK HOUR TRIPS, IT

09:17:21 TRANSLATES INTO ALL OF THAT, WHICH ARE IMPACTS THAT ARE

09:17:23 BEING FELT AND TESTIFIED TO BY THE SOUTH GANDY

09:17:26 NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:17:27 >>ELISE BATSEL: WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE

09:17:35 INACCURATE AND HERE IS WHY.

09:17:37 I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

09:17:39 SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEARBY.

09:17:43 TRASK AND INTERBECAME ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE SITE.

09:17:46 THE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE CLOSER ON TYSON HAVE MUCH

09:17:50 HIGHER DENSITY.

09:17:51 IN ADDITION, NEWPORT FOR ALL THE COMMERCIAL THERE, OF

09:18:00 COURSE IF YOU HAVE 163,000 COMMERCIAL FEET OF COMMERCIAL

09:18:03 YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ROOM LEFT FROM AN F.A.R. POINT FOR

09:18:06 UNITS, SO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE

09:18:08 SIMPLY NOT ACCURATE NUMBERS.

09:18:12 YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE OF WHAT'S

09:18:14 CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE.

09:18:16 SO IF WE ARE --

09:18:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT YOUR ANALYSIS TO

09:18:22 RATTLESNAKE POINT AND THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT THAT'S

09:18:25 NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN

09:18:27 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTH OF GANDY COMMUNITY ALONG




09:18:30 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, ALONG WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, THEN YOU

09:18:33 DO PICK UP THE TRASK AND THE INTERBAY PROJECTS IN THE

09:18:37 WESTSHORE AREA.

09:18:38 SO WE COULD SPLIT HAIRS AND THAT'S FINE, AND I AM SURE

09:18:43 THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T NEED TO HEAR YOU AND ME HAVE THIS

09:18:46 KIND OF DISCUSSION OR ARGUMENT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY

09:18:48 FRIENDLY SUGGESTION ABOUT TAKING THIS BACK TO THE DRAWING

09:18:51 BOARD AND COMING BACK WITH A PROJECT THAT HAS MUCH

09:18:54 REDUCED DENSITY.

09:18:56 AND I DO BELIEVE THAT YOUR CLIENTS CAN STILL MAKE MONEY

09:19:01 DEVELOPING -- THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT MY DECISION.

09:19:05 THAT'S NOT THE BASIS OF MY DECISION.

09:19:09 BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT PEOPLE TO -- THAT'S ALL

09:19:18 FINE AND GOOD BUT THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.

09:19:20 >>ELISE BATSEL: COUNCILMAN, MY CLIENT IS HERE.

09:19:22 I DO THINK WE WOULD APPRECIATE A FEW MINUTES TO CHAT

09:19:26 ABOUT THAT ISSUE AND TALK.

09:19:29 SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US A SHORT RECESS, WE WOULD

09:19:31 APPRECIATE IT.

09:19:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE

09:19:33 RECESS.

09:19:34 THANK YOU.

09:19:44 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).

09:27:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.

09:32:41 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.




09:32:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:32:45 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:32:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

09:32:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:32:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:32:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:32:56 >>THE CLERK: THERE'S A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.

09:32:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.

09:32:59 MS. BATSEL, GO AHEAD.

09:33:01 >>ELISE BATSEL: I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

09:33:03 PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR RYAN MANASSE.

09:33:06 IF WE REQUEST A CONTINUANCE, WHEN WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET

09:33:09 BEFORE COUNCIL?

09:33:15 IN A MONTH FOR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

09:33:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF THERE'S TWO REVIEWERS, IT HAS TO BE

09:33:25 PUSHED OUT AND RE-REVIEWED, NOT LIKE A FULL-BLOWN DRC BUT

09:33:30 I WOULD PROBABLY NEED, YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING SIXTY DAYS.

09:33:35 IF THEY ARE CHANGES WE CAN DO BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

09:33:39 READING.

09:33:39 >>ELISE BATSEL: OKAY.

09:33:45 AND I HAVE ONE MORE VERY UNORTHODOX REQUEST.

09:33:49 WE ONLY HEARD ABOUT THE DENSITY ISSUE FROM COUNCILMAN

09:33:53 DINGFELDER.

09:33:53 SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE COUNCIL SPEAK ABOUT THAT

09:33:57 ISSUE SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS




09:33:59 A WHOLE ON WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR US TO COME BACK WITH,

09:34:03 WITH RESPECT TO THE DENSITY NUMBERS?

09:34:07 WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE GUESSING AND COME BACK BEFORE

09:34:09 YOU WITH SOMETHING AND THEN WE HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION.

09:34:13 AND SO WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MOWER INPUTS FROM COUNCIL,

09:34:20 PLEASE.

09:34:20 >>CATE WELLS: HAVE MARTY SHELBY PERHAPS ADDRESS THE

09:34:29 APPROPRIATENESS OF THAT REQUEST.

09:34:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S HAND UP.

09:34:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE IT, AND BELIEVE ME, MS.

09:34:40 BATSEL IS VERY NICE, SHE'S CERTAINLY A GREAT ATTORNEY AND

09:34:44 I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR A WHILE.

09:34:45 SHE'S VERY UPFRONT.

09:34:47 BUT I THINK FOR US TO ANSWER THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT

09:34:50 I WOULD SAY THAT I CAN'T DO LEGALLY BECAUSE IF THIS GOES

09:34:54 SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN HERE, I DON'T WANTS SOMEBODY TO

09:34:57 SAY THAT I WOULD VOTE FOR IT AND I JUST CAN'T DO THAT.

09:35:04 I'M NOT A LAWYER.

09:35:05 I'M JUST A GUY ON THE STREET.

09:35:08 I CAN'T SAME IF I AM GOING TO PASS SOMETHING OR NOT PASS

09:35:13 SOMETHING.

09:35:14 >>ELISE BATSEL: I UNDERSTAND.

09:35:17 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

09:35:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

09:35:26 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YES, SIR.




09:35:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, WITHOUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S

09:35:34 WORDS ARE ALWAYS VERY WELL TAKEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A

09:35:37 CONCERN STATED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THAT APPEARS TO

09:35:40 BE CONSISTENT WITH A CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN STATED BY

09:35:43 COUNCIL BEFORE.

09:35:44 THE WAY I SEE THIS, WE HAVE A PROJECT WITH FINDING OF

09:35:48 CONSISTENCY, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, ADDRESSING

09:35:53 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S CONCERN, AS WE SAY REASONABLY

09:35:59 CALCULATED, IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP YOU

09:36:03 OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY, JUST FOR

09:36:08 MY OPINION.

09:36:09 AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, BUT

09:36:13 YOU DO HAVE A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY.

09:36:18 MY OPINION.

09:36:19 THANK YOU.

09:36:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:36:21 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE MY INDICATION OF

09:36:28 HOW I WOULD VOTE IN THE FUTURE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE A

09:36:32 COMMENT, THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT

09:36:36 THE COMMUNITY LEADERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS SAID AND

09:36:39 WHAT YOUR EXPERT SAID, AND YOU MIGHT WANTS TO -- SAID IT

09:36:45 WOULD HAVE NO BEARING ON THE VOLT, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE

09:36:48 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU MIGHT 2021 GET TOGETHER WITH THEM

09:36:50 WITH YOUR EXPERTS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT YOU

09:36:53 AGREE WITH OR WHAT YOU DON'T.




09:36:54 >>ELISE BATSEL: UNDERSTOOD.

09:37:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHAT WOULD THEN BE THE REQUEST, A

09:37:04 CONTINUANCE, OR WHAT DO YOU WISH TO DO?

09:37:07 >>ELISE BATSEL: YES, SIR.

09:37:09 A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TO COME BACK

09:37:12 WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

09:37:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:37:14 I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME.

09:37:17 WHAT IS THE 60 DAY OR CLOSEST TO?

09:37:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: MAY 13th.

09:37:29 MAY 13th IS THE FOLLOWING, NOT THE NEXT REZONING

09:37:34 CYCLE BUT 5-13 WOULD BE THE ONE AFTER THE NEXT.

09:37:49 I'M SORRY.

09:37:49 I'M JUST LOOKING AT CYCLES.

09:37:51 >>CATE WELLS: WE TALKED ABOUT 60 DAYS.

09:37:57 >>RYAN MANASSE: IT WOULD BE APRIL 8.

09:38:01 4-8.

09:38:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 22ND IS 60 DAYS OR SO.

09:38:07 THERE'S APRIL 22ND.

09:38:08 THERE'S MARCH 25th.

09:38:14 OR THERE'S APRIL 8th AS WELL.

09:38:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE OTHER TWO MEETINGS ARE ON AB NIGHTS,

09:38:21 SO COUNCIL IS AWARE.

09:38:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO APRIL 8th.

09:38:25 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.




09:38:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO THINGS.

09:38:29 ONE, I WILL BE GLAD TO MAKE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS

09:38:31 TO APRIL 8th AT 6:00 IN THE EVENING.

09:38:35 IT CAN BE FIRST UP.

09:38:37 WE APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S AGREEMENT TO AT LEAST GO BACK

09:38:45 AND LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.

09:38:46 SECOND THING I WANTED TO DO WAS REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN

09:38:51 MIRANDA SAID IS THAT I MADE A SUGGESTION, THERE'S NO

09:38:57 GUARANTEE OF ANY VOTES.

09:38:59 I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR

09:39:01 ON THAT.

09:39:02 MY VOTE OR ANYBODY ELSE'S VOTE.

09:39:04 BUT THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY ON THAT.

09:39:08 BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL GOING BACK AND REVISITING

09:39:11 THAT ISSUE OR WHATEVER OTHER ISSUES YOU WANT TO REVISIT

09:39:15 IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.

09:39:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS

09:39:18 ITEM.

09:39:19 WAIT, MR. MANASSE?

09:39:23 >>RYAN MANASSE: APRIL 8th IS THE REZONING NIGHT.

09:39:26 I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE, THIS CONTINUANCE WOULD BE

09:39:33 11.

09:39:33 I ADJUSTMENT WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

09:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:

09:39:48 >>LUIS VIERA: AND JUST TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILMAN




09:39:52 DINGFELDER SAID, MAKE SURE IN THAT MOTION TO PUT IT FIRST

09:39:57 ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK MS. BATSEL WORKS

09:40:02 THIS CASE PRO BONO.

09:40:03 SO TO MAKE SURE SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT HERE FOR A FEW

09:40:06 HOURS WITH HER CLIENT THAT'S ALREADY PUT TIME IN.

09:40:11 >>ELISE BATSEL: MY CLIENT SAID THANK YOU.

09:40:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING

09:40:17 THAT MOTION.

09:40:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU STATED IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW,

09:40:19 MAXIMUM OF TEN ITEMS PER NIGHT.

09:40:21 APRIL 8th IS 10 ITEMS.

09:40:24 MR. MANASSE, MAY 13th, OUT OF CURIOSITY?

09:40:30 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

09:40:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, CAN WE BUMP ONE OF THE

09:41:22 CASES FOR APRIL 8th TO A LATER DATE OR NO?

09:41:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: I HAVE NEVER DONE THAT, CHAIR.

09:41:31 I IMAGINE ANY ONE OF THOSE APPLICANTS MIGHT BE QUITE

09:41:35 IRRITATED IF THEY GET BUMPED OFF A CYCLE.

09:41:39 I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT AB NIGHTS, IF WE WANT TO REVISIT

09:41:44 THAT, INSTEAD OF BUMPING CASES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE

09:41:46 CYCLE FOR THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, YOU KNOW, TO GET IN FRONT

09:41:50 OF COUNCIL.

09:41:51 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.

09:41:53 KIND OF LIKE MR. SHELBY WAS SAYING, I KNOW YOU GET TEN

09:41:56 NEW CASES AND IF WE DO IT THE WAY WE ALWAYS DID IT




09:42:00 BEFORE, IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT TEN AND YOU DIRECT STAFF TO

09:42:03 THAT AND WE TRY TO LIMIT TO THE TEN.

09:42:05 BUT AGAIN REZONINGS FOR APRIL 8th AND MAY 13th

09:42:08 ARE BOTH MAXED OUT AT TEN ALREADY AND WE ARE ACCEPTING

09:42:11 APPLICATIONS FOR JUNE 10th WHICH I'M ASSUMING ARE

09:42:14 GOING TO BE FILLED SOON.

09:42:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COULD WE PUT A REZONING ON AN

09:42:19 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE NIGHT OR NO?

09:42:21 LIKE THE 22ND?

09:42:23 >>RYAN MANASSE: I BELIEVE IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

09:42:26 I KNOW WE LIMIT IT AS STAFF JUST TO I BELIEVE WE HAVE

09:42:32 COUNCIL ADVISE US TO KEEP ALCOHOL ON ALCOHOL NIGHTS AND

09:42:35 REZONING --

09:42:36 >>> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I SEE YOU WAVING AND WAVING.

09:42:39 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

09:42:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO

09:42:48 BE FLEXIBLE AND THEY ARE UNDER A CONTRACTUAL CONSTRAINT,

09:42:52 AS MS. BATSEL INDICATED.

09:42:54 I DON'T KNOW THE DATES.

09:42:55 AND I DON'T REALLY CARE.

09:42:57 BUT STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE A CONTRACT ISSUE

09:43:00 THAT THEY NEED TO GET DONE WITH THIS REZONING AND CLOSE

09:43:06 ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

09:43:08 SO WITH THAT STATED, I THINK WE CAN'T BE HARD AND FAST ON

09:43:12 THIS TEN PER NIGHT RULE.




09:43:15 WE HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE OURSELVES.

09:43:18 SO MY MOTION IS FOR APRIL 8th.

09:43:20 LET'S JUST DO IT.

09:43:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:43:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR

09:43:25 CONCERN.

09:43:26 AND I RESPECT YOU HIGHLY.

09:43:28 BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED

09:43:31 ABOUT IT AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT.

09:43:36 IT'S ALREADY GOING ON 10:00.

09:43:38 I MEAN, WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE HERE TILL AFTER 11 OR

09:43:42 12.

09:43:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE TILL 1 A.M.

09:43:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO BE SAYING NO BECAUSE WE

09:43:52 HAVE TO AT SOME POINT START SAYING -- THIS IS NOT A PART

09:43:55 TIME JOB.

09:43:55 THIS IS A FULL TIME JOB.

09:43:57 THE CITY HAS GROWN.

09:43:58 WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES.

09:43:59 AND IT MAY BE A TIME TO CHANGE AND OPERATE SOME OF THE

09:44:04 THINGS WE ARE DOING, ONE NIGHT OF THE WEAK TO TWO TO KIND

09:44:07 OF GET THIS STUFF IN SO WE CAN ALSO FEEL COMFORTABLE

09:44:10 MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE PUBLIC AND SOME OF THESE

09:44:12 PETITIONERS.

09:44:13 IT DOES US NO GOOD TO BE HERE LATE NIGHT.




09:44:16 WE ARE TIRED.

09:44:18 YOU ARE TIRED.

09:44:18 UNSAFE.

09:44:19 AND MR. CHAIRMAN, AFTER TODAY, TO DISCUSS POSSIBLY HOW WE

09:44:25 ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE CASES WHEN

09:44:27 WE ARE NOT HERE AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING.

09:44:29 I THINK IT'S FAIR TO FAMILIES AND ALSO TO THOSE OTHERS AS

09:44:35 WELL.

09:44:35 I AM GOING TO SAY NO.

09:44:36 HOW THE VOTE GOES, I WILL RESPECT THE VOTE BUT I AM GOING

09:44:39 TO VOTE NO UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS.

09:44:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE.

09:44:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I AM TRYING TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS

09:44:46 I CAN WITH MY SCHEDULING WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

09:44:49 SO THE AB NIGHTS, SO YOU ARE AWARE ON 3-25, I HAVE A

09:44:53 REZONING GOING ALONG WITH JENNIFER MALONE.

09:44:57 YOU HAVE TPA THAT NIGHT AS WELL.

09:45:00 I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT ON THE AGENDA WITH

09:45:03 YOUR CPAs, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, AND THEN LIKE I

09:45:07 SAID, THE OTHER AB NIGHT IS 4-22 AND I ONLY HAVE ONE,

09:45:11 TWO, THREE, FOUR AB CASES ON 4-22, IF THAT HELPS COUNCIL

09:45:16 ANY.

09:45:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.

09:45:17 MS. MALONE.

09:45:18 >>JENNIFER MALONE: APPROXIMATELY TEN PLAN AMENDMENTS




09:45:21 GOING.

09:45:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA, GO AHEAD.

09:45:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:45:33 I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN GUDES' COMMENTS.

09:45:45 [~DISTORTION~]

09:45:49 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN THE SENSE --

09:45:52 >>> WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

09:45:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES --

09:46:02 >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY MUST BE UPLOADING A VIDEO AT

09:46:05 YOUR HOUSE.

09:46:05 >>LUIS VIERA: [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] HOLD ON.

09:46:22 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

09:46:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S VERY CHOPPY AND VERY SLOW.

09:46:25 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU HEAR ME?

09:46:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, IT'S VERY SLOW.

09:46:38 >>BILL CARLSON: T MOBILE.

09:46:45 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

09:46:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

09:46:47 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING?

09:46:52 >> WE CAN HEAR YOU.

09:46:54 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

09:46:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

09:47:00 TWO HOURS ON THIS ITEM.

09:47:01 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

09:47:05 MY APOLOGIES.




09:47:08 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

09:47:11 OKAY WITH, REGARDS TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, I SUPPORT A LOT

09:47:14 OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE.

09:47:18 WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK THAT RAN 12 OR 13 HOURS.

09:47:22 AND I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE.

09:47:26 THERE ARE INCREMENTAL THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT.

09:47:28 I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD AS A BODY AND WHATNOT.

09:47:31 BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE ANY BEARING ON THIS

09:47:34 CASE.

09:47:34 I AGREE IN THE SENSE THAT HAVING TOO MANY CASES ON THE

09:47:37 AGENDA, WE TEND TO CONTINUE A LOT OF CASES, IT SEEMS.

09:47:40 BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A CROSS TO BEAR FOR THE

09:47:43 APPLICANT, GIVEN THAT OTHERWISE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT 90

09:47:48 DAYS AND I THINK THEY WOULD SUFFER PREJUDICE.

09:47:50 HOWEVER, COUNCILMAN, YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN AND I

09:47:53 THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE ON A LARGER SCALE.

09:47:55 JUST GIVING MY THOUGHTS.

09:47:56 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

09:47:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:48:02 SO APRIL 8th OR THERE'S THAT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE NIGHT

09:48:05 AFTERWARDS THAT HAS FOUR CASES ONLY, IF WE WANT TO

09:48:08 SQUEEZE IT IN THERE ON THE 22ND.

09:48:10 I KNOW IT'S NOT THE CONVENTIONAL THING TO DO, BUT IT

09:48:14 ELIMINATES THE BURDEN OF GOING PAST TEN CASES.

09:48:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, APRIL 22ND ON AN AB NIGHT?




09:48:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE COULD HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER IF

09:48:33 SHE CAN LIVE WITH THE 22ND.

09:48:35 >>ELISE BATSEL: YES, SIR, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU

09:48:38 ACCOMMODATING US AND THE 22ND OF APRIL WILL WORK.

09:48:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE]

09:48:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST ON THE 6:00 AGENDA ON APRIL

09:48:51 22ND.

09:48:52 >>ELISE BATSEL: I DIDN'T REALIZE THE ACTUAL DATE.

09:48:58 THE 22ND OF APRIL IS TOO LATE FOR US CONTRACTUALLY.

09:49:01 I APOLOGIZE.

09:49:02 I MISUNDERSTOOD.

09:49:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST MAKE MY MOTION AND LET'S

09:49:06 GET A VOTE ON A CONTINUANCE FOR APRIL 8th.

09:49:09 AND --

09:49:11 >>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FIRST ON

09:49:13 THE AGENDA APRIL 8th.

09:49:14 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

09:49:16 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:49:21 OKAY, ROLL CALL VOTE.

09:49:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

09:49:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

09:49:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (NO RESPONSE).

09:49:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE LEFT.

09:49:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

09:49:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M ONLY VOTING YES FOR THIS ONE TIME,




09:49:41 BUT AT SOME POINT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

09:49:45 TO DISCUSS GOING TO AN EXTRA DAY A WEEK OR SIX TIMES A

09:49:51 MONTH MEETING.

09:49:54 THESE MEETINGS THAT LAST UNTIL 12, 1:00, 2:00, IS NOT

09:49:59 ONLY HARD ON US, IT'S HARD ON STAFF, IT'S HARD ON LEGAL,

09:50:03 AND IT'S HARD ON THE CITIZENS TO HAVE TO COME AND SIT

09:50:06 DOWN HERE UNTIL 2:00 IN THE MORNING TO GIVE TESTIMONY.

09:50:10 I'M VOTING YES, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

09:50:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

09:50:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

09:50:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES VOTING NO AND

09:50:21 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

09:50:22 >>ELISE BATSEL: THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

09:50:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:50:29 >> ARE WE OFF THE RECORD?

09:50:32 >> NO.

09:50:33 USUAL ON THE RECORD.

09:50:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE FINISHED WITH THIS CASE, THOUGH,

09:50:37 CORRECT?

09:50:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES [OFF MICROPHONE]

09:50:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE ALWAYS TEASED MS. BATSEL WHERE

09:50:48 SHE HANDLES THESE CASES SO SERIOUSLY AND SHE COVERED HER

09:50:51 MOUTH AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY SHE CHANGED HER FORM.

09:50:55 BUT SHE IS ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL.

09:50:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, ITEM NUMBER 6.




09:51:01 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 6 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 20-101,

09:51:06 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5100 SOUTH WEST SHORE

09:51:10 BOULEVARD, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL

09:51:12 SINGLE-FAMILY 75 RS-75 AND CI TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO

09:51:18 PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY

09:51:20 RESIDENTIAL.

09:51:20 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU

09:51:23 WOULD PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

09:51:24 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

09:51:27 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

09:51:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU TURN THE VOLUME UP FOR MS.

09:51:32 MALONE?

09:51:32 WE CAN'T HEAR.

09:51:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS FILE 20-101.

09:51:47 WE ARE IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.

09:51:49 THIS CASE IS ALSO WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.

09:51:55 THE RATTLESNAKE POINT AREA IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY A

09:51:58 MILE TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

09:52:03 ALONG WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND SOUTH PAUL AVENUE.

09:52:07 WESTSHORE, YELLOW STAR IN THE CENTRAL PROJECT.

09:52:12 SOUTH OF THAT IS A PUPPY DAYCARE.

09:52:18 AND SOUTH IS REPAIR.

09:52:20 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN DOES

09:52:22 TRANSITION TO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS

09:52:25 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE FIND ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.




09:52:29 THE SUBJECT SITE HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USE, COMMUNITY MIXED

09:52:35 USE 35 ON THE EASTERN PORTION AND RESIDENTIAL 10 ON THE

09:52:39 WESTERN PORTION IN THE ORANGE.

09:52:43 RESIDENTIAL 10 CONTINUES TO THE WEST, AND SINGLE-FAMILY

09:52:47 DETACHED.

09:52:50 ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD TO AN

09:52:55 URBAN MIXED USE 60 SO THAT IS A HIGHER DENSITY, SO THIS

09:52:59 IS KIND OF STEPPING DOWN EAST IN THIS AREA.

09:53:03 SO IT IS A SPLIT FUTURE LAND USE, SO THE APPLICANT SHOWED

09:53:10 ON THE SITE PLAN THE LINE WHERE THE LAND USE IS SPLIT,

09:53:14 AND CALCULATED OUT THE DENSITY CORRECTLY, SO IN THE

09:53:17 RESIDENTIAL 10 PORTION OF SITE PLAN IT DOES NOT EXCEED

09:53:20 THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY, AND IN THAT PORTION THE

09:53:23 APPLICANT --

09:53:26 WITHIN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 OF THE SITE PLAN, THIS

09:53:30 IS A PROPOSAL FOR 21 DWELLING UNITS.

09:53:34 I WILL MAKE A CORRECTION.

09:53:35 I THINK THAT OUR STAFF REPORT WAS A LITTLE OFF.

09:53:40 TOTAL ALLOWABLE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR IN THE PORTIONS

09:53:45 OF COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS 29 DWELLING UNITS, WITH 35

09:53:51 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE OR 24 AT 30 DWELLING UNITS MER

09:53:55 ACRE.

09:53:56 THAT WOULD BE OF THE 24 DWELLING UNITS, AND THEY ARE

09:54:00 PROPOSING 21 IN THAT PORTION.

09:54:02 THAT PORTION OF THE CMU-35 CAN ALSO BE CONSIDERED FOR




09:54:05 COMMERCIAL USES BECAUSE IT IS THE PORTION CURRENTLY ZONED

09:54:09 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

09:54:10 SO WE DO HAVE THAT ALONG SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND

09:54:13 THAT MIXTURE OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY ACROSS

09:54:17 THE STREET AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA.

09:54:20 WE DID FIND THAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ADDRESSES THE

09:54:23 APPLICABLE POLICY DIRECTIONS TO THE PLAN.

09:54:26 THE ORIENTATION OF THE UNITS WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE

09:54:29 POLICY DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PLAN.

09:54:31 THERE'S SOME PUBLIC ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS WITH

09:54:37 INTERNAL TO THE SITE.

09:54:39 THE PLAN ALSO SUPPORTS PROVIDING HOUSING ALONG THESE

09:54:41 CORRIDORS, AND PROVIDING HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING

09:54:46 POPULATION, AND IT DOES PROVIDE THAT TRANSITION WITHIN

09:54:51 THE SITE THAT IS SPLIT IN THAT REGARD.

09:54:54 SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN, THE FUTURE LAND USE,

09:54:58 THE SURROUNDING AREA IN THIS POLICY.

09:55:01 THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

09:55:03 THANK YOU.

09:55:03 I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

09:55:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:55:05 ANY QUESTIONS?

09:55:08 MR. MANASSE?

09:55:10 >>RYAN MANASSE: CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?

09:55:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.




09:55:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE REZ-20-101

09:55:27 INFORM 5100 SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND THEY ARE

09:55:30 REQUESTING REZONING FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING FROM RS-75

09:55:35 AND CI TO PD ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

09:55:38 THEY ARE REQUESTING FOUR WAIVERS THROUGH THIS PETITION.

09:55:41 THE FIRST BEING A REDUCTION IN MINIMUM SIDE YARD.

09:55:44 THAT'S BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS, OR I'M SORRY,

09:55:49 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNITS IN 27-162, AND THEN

09:55:56 I'LL SHOW YOU AS WELL NOT ALIGNING WITH THE STREET

09:56:00 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

09:56:01 THE LAST TWO WAIVERS ARE REFERRING TO SOME OF THE NATURAL

09:56:03 RESOURCES THAT ARE REQUIRED, AND NATURAL RESOURCES STILL

09:56:06 FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT

09:56:09 COORDINATION, TO CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION.

09:56:14 THE 1.24-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER

09:56:17 OF SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD AND WEST PAUL AVENUE.

09:56:20 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMUNICATION TOWER TO THE

09:56:23 NORTH, AND CG AND CI ZONING DISTRICT, COMMERCIAL AND

09:56:27 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH, IN THE CI,

09:56:30 AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 75 ZONING DISTRICT, AND

09:56:34 THEN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST AND THE

09:56:37 RS-75 ZONING DISTRICT, AND THEN MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL

09:56:41 USES TO THE WEST AND CI DISTRICT.

09:56:44 THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING FIVE FOUR STORY HOMES FOR A

09:56:53 TOTAL OF 24 DWELLING UNITS, EACH UNITS CONTAINING A TWO




09:56:56 CAR GARAGE.

09:56:56 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS SHALL SOUTH 8 FEET, WEST 10 FEET,

09:57:00 EAST 30 FEET, NORTH 8 FEET.

09:57:02 THE PROPOSED BUILDING HIGHLIGHT IS 45 FEET.

09:57:04 A TOTAL OF 56 PARKING SPACES INCLUDING GUEST SPACES ARE

09:57:09 REQUIRED AND THEY ARE BEING PROVIDED THROUGH COMBINATION

09:57:12 OF GARAGE AND SURFACE PARKING.

09:57:14 AND I KNOW GENERAL I HAVE SHOWED YOU A COUPLE MAPS AND I

09:57:17 WILL SHOW YOU MINE AS WELL.

09:57:18 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS OR LOCAL OR NATIONAL

09:57:23 WITHIN A THOUSAND FOOT RADIUS AND SHOWING YOU THE SUBJECT

09:57:26 SITE, YOU SEE PAUL AVENUE TO THE NORTH AND WEST SHORE

09:57:29 BOULEVARD TO THE WEST.

09:57:32 AND GOES STREET TO STREET.

09:57:35 SITE PLAN AND THEN TO EXPLAIN WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO

09:57:38 WITH THE WAIVER, THESE THREE UNITS IN THE CENTER OF THE

09:57:40 SITE PLAN YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY ARE NOT ORIENTED TOWARDS

09:57:42 THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR THEM TO

09:57:45 DO IN THE THIS KIND OF CONFIGURATION.

09:57:47 THE REST OF THE UNITS ARE ABUTTING THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY FOR

09:57:50 THAT CODE SECTION.

09:57:55 IF YOU ARE ON PAUL AS WELL AS GLOVER AVENUE.

09:58:00 I'M SORRY, FRANCIS.

09:58:04 AND THEN THERE'S AN ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

09:58:23 AND HERE IS THE SITE AS IT CURRENTLY IS ON THE LEFT, A




09:58:27 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME.

09:58:28 AND THEN THIS IS THE ANTENNA THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO OR

09:58:31 THE COMMUNICATION TOWER TO THE NORTH ON THE RIGHT-HAND

09:58:33 SIDE.

09:58:34 JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU A VIEW NORTH ON WESTSHORE

09:58:37 BOULEVARD AND THEN SOUTH ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.

09:58:40 THERE'S THAT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY THAT'S ACROSS THE

09:58:41 STREET.

09:58:42 THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT JENNIFER DID STATE

09:58:45 ABUTTING THIS AREA.

09:58:48 ANOTHER VIEW OF LOOKING SOUTHEAST AT THE PROPERTY.

09:58:52 AND THEN THERE'S A BETTER LOOK ON THE RIGHT, WEST OF THE

09:58:55 SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS THAT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

09:59:00 THE LEFT PICTURE IS VIEWING EAST ON WEST PRINCE AVENUE

09:59:04 AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THAT COMMERCIAL USE AS

09:59:06 WELL.

09:59:09 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE

09:59:12 APPLICATION AND FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

09:59:14 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

09:59:15 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE

09:59:17 WAIVERS, AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE FURTHER

09:59:20 MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

09:59:23 READING AS STATED IN THE REVISION SHEET OF THE STAFF

09:59:25 REPORT.

09:59:26 IF YOU DO APPROVE THAT MOTION IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE




09:59:30 THE REVISION SHEET IN THE MOTION AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE

09:59:32 FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

09:59:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

09:59:36 TIME?

09:59:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.

09:59:42 MR. MANASSE, ON THE SITE PLAN, THERE IS A SECTION BETWEEN

09:59:47 ONE ROW OF -- OF TWO CAR GARAGES AND THE OTHER IS A

09:59:55 MEASUREMENT OF 5.7.

09:59:59 IS THAT A WALKWAY, A BREEZEWAY?

10:00:05 >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT REFERS TO THE WAIVER.

10:00:08 LET ME JUST PUT IT BACK ON SCREEN.

10:00:10 SO THIS IS THE 27-152 TO ALLOW MINIMUM SIDE BUILDING YARD

10:00:16 FROM 11 FEET PER THAT SECTION TO THE 5 FEET BETWEEN UNIT

10:00:19 6 AND 7.

10:00:20 SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE

10:00:22 REFERRING TO -- SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WAIVER IS COMING

10:00:28 FROM.

10:00:30 AND THE APPLICANT DID REDESIGN THIS AFTER DRC TO TRY TO

10:00:35 GET SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THESE BUILDINGS BECAUSE

10:00:37 ORIGINALLY THEY WERE ALL TOGETHER AND STAFF SUGGESTED

10:00:41 SEPARATION.

10:00:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE IS ALWAYS A PUBLIC SAFETY, AND I

10:00:48 KNOW THAT FIRE TENDS TO ASK FOR CERTAIN WIDTHS BETWEEN

10:00:53 BUILDINGS.

10:00:54 DOES THAT ADHERE TO THAT SAFETY AND FIRE REQUEST?




10:00:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: FIRE DID REVIEW THE PLAN AND SAID THEY

10:01:03 MUST MEET ALL FDA REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO PERMITTING BUT I

10:01:07 DIDN'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO THIS RELATED PD.

10:01:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MANASSE.

10:01:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:01:15 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

10:01:16 ALL RIGHT.

10:01:18 MR. HORNER AND MR. HOLLIS, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT

10:01:23 HAND AND BE SWORN IN BEFORE YOU SPEAK.

10:01:25 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE

10:01:29 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

10:01:32 >> I DO.

10:01:33 >> I DO.

10:01:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:01:34 GO AHEAD.

10:01:35 >>MICHAEL HORNER: GOOD EVENING.

10:01:39 I'M MICHAEL HORNER, 14502 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, TAMPA

10:01:43 33618 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

10:01:46 I'LL KEEP MY PRESENTATION UNDER 30 MINUTES TONIGHT.

10:01:50 I KNOW IT'S GOING LONG.

10:01:51 JUST KIDDING.

10:01:53 IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

10:01:54 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

10:01:56 I HAVE AN EXTENDED PRESENTATION, GRAPHICS.

10:01:59 I THINK I AM JUST GOING TO CUT TO THE SUMMARY.




10:02:01 WE HAVE GOT FULL RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL FROM STAFF,

10:02:05 REVIEW AGENCIES, JENNIFER DID A FINE PRESENTATION AS DID

10:02:09 RYAN ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE

10:02:13 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE UNIFIED REZ 10,

10:02:17 CMU, WHICH IS RATHER UNIQUE ON THIS PROPERTY.

10:02:20 I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE HOLLIS, ENGINEERING, IF WE COULD

10:02:28 SHARE THE SCREEN AND WORK THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS

10:02:30 POSSIBLE.

10:02:37 SO WE ARE PROPOSING A PD, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR 25

10:02:40 TOWNHOMES, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AS RYAN MENTIONED.

10:02:45 THIS IS NOT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.

10:02:48 THESE ARE NOT APARTMENTS.

10:02:49 THESE ARE NOT STACKED UNITS.

10:02:50 THESE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY FEE SIMPLE ATTACHED UNITS.

10:02:55 YOU KNOW THIS VERY WELL.

10:02:56 WE JUST WENT THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ON THE WEST

10:02:59 SHORE CORRIDOR.

10:03:02 SO NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL THE LAND USES.

10:03:06 SPACE TO THE SAY THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY

10:03:08 MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL ZONING, MUCH HIGHER INTENSITY

10:03:12 AND DENSITY THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

10:03:20 WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING CI TO THE SOUTH.

10:03:22 WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

10:03:25 AND AS JENNIFER NOTED WE DO HAVE AN HISTORICALLY OLDER

10:03:28 SUBDIVISION, RS-75 TO THE EAST.




10:03:31 WE DO HAVE A UNIQUE PARCEL THAT HAS A SHARED SPLIT ZONE.

10:03:38 WE HAVE RS-75 AND WE HAVE CI.

10:03:41 WE ALSO HAVE A SPLIT COMP PLAN CATEGORY WHICH JENNIFER

10:03:45 REFERENCED.

10:03:46 CMU-35 ON THE WESTERN POINT AND REZ 10 ON THE EAST.

10:03:51 OVERALL 25 UNITS 1.24 ACRES AND A DENSITY OF 20 UNITS PER

10:03:57 ACRE.

10:03:58 I WOULD NOTE THAT THE UMU 60 LIES ENTIRELY ON THE WESTERN

10:04:02 SIDE, AREA FENCE, LOTS OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS,

10:04:06 COMMERCIAL, AND WE GO THROUGH THOSE TRANSITIONS, GANDY

10:04:09 BOULEVARD CORRIDOR JUST TWO BLOCKS TO OUR NORTH.

10:04:13 WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGN

10:04:16 GUIDELINES, AND THEN WE HAVE UNITS BEING ORIENTED WITH

10:04:21 ACCESS, CONNECTIVITY.

10:04:26 CAN YOU SHARE THE SCREEN?

10:04:28 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: ARE YOU SEEING THE SCREEN NOW?

10:04:36 SORRY ABOUT THAT.

10:04:38 I WAS GONE.

10:04:40 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

10:04:41 BRING IT UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST.

10:04:45 AGAIN COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH.

10:04:46 COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH.

10:04:47 IF WE CAN JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

10:04:52 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: SURE.

10:04:56 THE NEXT ONE, HERE YOU GO.




10:05:00 >>MICHAEL HORNER: SO WE HAVE THE SMALL PURPLE SQUARE,

10:05:09 YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL,

10:05:11 EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH IS COMMERCIAL, SOUTH COMMERCIAL,

10:05:14 WEST MULTIFAMILY, COMMERCIAL.

10:05:16 NO SURPRISE GIVEN THE INTENSITY OF WEST SHORE BOULEVARD

10:05:19 WHICH IS AN AERIAL.

10:05:21 NEXT SLIDE.

10:05:28 WE HAVE WORKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN

10:05:30 ORIENT THESE UNITS TO THE ROYALTY.

10:05:34 NEXT SLIDE.

10:05:35 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: TOO MANY ON HERE.

10:05:41 I'M SORRY.

10:05:41 >>MICHAEL HORNER: LET'S JUST TRY THE SITE PLAN.

10:05:46 LET'S DO THE COLOR.

10:05:47 I THINK THAT WILL BE THE BEST DESCRIPTION.

10:05:48 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: OKAY.

10:05:50 THANK YOU.

10:05:51 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE

10:05:52 PROPOSING.

10:05:53 YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RELATES TO THE EAST RESIDENTIAL.

10:05:56 WE HAVE A BUILDING SETBACK OF 40 FEET ON THAT EASTERN

10:05:58 SIDE.

10:05:59 THAT IS PARKING, TWO STONE WATERS SURFACE PONDS,

10:06:04 NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS.

10:06:05 WE DID HAVE A POOL AND A DECK ON THE GREEN SHADED SQUARE.




10:06:11 YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS AND YOU WILL SEE THOSE CURRENTLY

10:06:14 AND THAT'S WHAT RYAN MANASSE AND STAFF DO.

10:06:17 HOWEVER, A RECENT SWFWMD REVIEW CAME BACK AND SAID WE HAD

10:06:21 A LITTLE TOO MUCH IMPERVIOUS AND WE NEEDED TO INCREASE

10:06:24 STORAGE AND DECREASE IMPERVIOUS.

10:06:27 SO THAT POOL AND DECK AREA IS NOW GREEN SPACE.

10:06:32 A AND THIS GREEN SPACE WILL BE ABOVE A VAULT AND THIS

10:06:36 GREEN SPACE WILL BE SIMPLY PASSIVE SO PEOPLE CAN GATHER

10:06:39 THE KIDS AND THIS WILL BE THE PUBLIC GATHERING PLACE.

10:06:44 NO MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN THAT AREA.

10:06:46 WE HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS, WE HAVE NO DIRECT ACCESS TO WEST

10:06:53 SHORE BOULEVARD.

10:06:54 YOU CAN SEE THE ACCESS CONNECTIVITY ON THAT PLAN, COUNCIL

10:06:57 MEMBERS.

10:06:58 WE HAVE MAINTAINED SIDEWALKS, PROPOSALS ON THE NORTH,

10:07:01 SOUTH AND WEST, AND THEN WE HAVE THE INTERIOR

10:07:06 CONNECTIVITIES, THE ACCESS WALKWAYS THAT JENNIFER

10:07:08 MENTIONED.

10:07:09 THAT IS ONE OF THE WAIVERS FOR THE THREE UNITS INTERNAL.

10:07:15 THE WAIVERS THAT RYAN MENTIONED WE BELIEVE, BY SECOND

10:07:21 READING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO

10:07:24 WAIVE OR REMOVE THE WAIVER OF THE OPEN SPACE,

10:07:28 CALCULATIONS HAVE INCREASED FROM 6% UP TO 20%.

10:07:32 ALSO, THERE WERE THREE TREES THAT WE HAD TO REMOVE

10:07:36 BEFORE.




10:07:37 THE GOOD NEWS IS WE THINK THOSE THREE TREES CAN COME

10:07:40 BACK, AND THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR ALL OF US.

10:07:43 WE HAVE WORKED CLOSE WITH STAFF, THE AGENCIES ON SWFWMD.

10:07:48 WE HAVE HAD ONE PROPERTY OWNER CONTACT ME.

10:07:52 I THINK I COPIED YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ACTUALLY VERY

10:07:57 NICE LADY TALKED TO FOR ALMOST A HALF AN HOUR,.

10:08:05 THIS IS SOLELY RESIDENTIAL.

10:08:07 IT IS CI.

10:08:08 IT COULD BE DEVELOPED INTO AN INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL

10:08:10 DEVELOPMENT, FACILITY, LOADING DOCKS, TRUCKS IN THE BACK,

10:08:17 DUMPSTERS.

10:08:18 THIS IS SOLELY RESIDENTIAL IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE

10:08:22 PLANNING COMMISSION.

10:08:23 IT IS LOW DENSITY.

10:08:24 AGAIN BEING CMU, AS MS. BATSEL REFERENCED.

10:08:28 WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY UNDER A DIFFERENT

10:08:31 MULTIFAMILY UNIT PRODUCT TO GET F.A.R. CREDIT, TO GET

10:08:35 MUCH HIGHER NUMBER OF UNITS, AND SINGLE-FAMILY OR

10:08:40 OCCUPIED UNITS AT 20IENTS UNITS PER ACRE.

10:08:43 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

10:08:46 JUST 630 SECONDS ON STORMWATER.

10:08:49 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

10:08:52 GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY

10:08:54 COUNCIL.

10:08:54 BRAULIO GRAJALES, 63 WEST CYPRESS AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN




10:09:02 IN.

10:09:02 I AM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND

10:09:04 ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT.

10:09:06 ONE OF THE IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT IS OF

10:09:10 COURSE STORM WATERS DRAINAGE.

10:09:12 I HAVE MET WITH SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT

10:09:14 DISTRICT TO DISCUSS ALL THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR

10:09:17 THIS PROJECT.

10:09:19 I HAVE ALSO CONTACTED THE CITY OF TAMPA STORMWATER

10:09:22 ENGINEERING DIVISION TO OBTAIN THE DRAINAGE MODEL AND THE

10:09:27 SPECIFIC INFORMATION FOR THE DRAINAGE BASING AREA WHERE

10:09:30 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

10:09:32 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE A DRAINAGE WHICH

10:09:38 WILL NOT AFFECT THE PROPERTY AND THE STREETS AROUND THE

10:09:41 PROPERTY.

10:09:41 THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT WILL CONSTRUCT AN

10:09:44 UNDERGROUND STORMWATER RETENTION SYSTEM AND TWO SURFACE

10:09:48 PONDS THAT WILL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT WATER QUALITY

10:09:50 TREATMENT AND VOLUME TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED

10:09:55 BY THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND

10:09:57 THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:10:00 ALSO, THE PROJECT WILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED

10:10:02 BY SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BEFORE IT

10:10:06 CAN GO TO CONSTRUCTION.

10:10:08 I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION ROADWAY




10:10:15 IMPROVEMENTS ON WEST SHORE BOULEVARD, TAMPA EXPRESSWAY

10:10:19 AUTHORITY IS CURRENTLY BUILDING THE SELMON EXTENSION

10:10:28 PROJECT, IMPROVING WEST SHORE BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF GANDY

10:10:30 BOULEVARD FROM PRAISE AVENUE TO GANDY BOULEVARD.

10:10:34 THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE WIDENING OF THE PAVEMENT TO

10:10:36 EXPAND WEST SHORE BOULEVARD FROM 3 TO 4 LANES.

10:10:40 IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SHARE A QUICK SCREEN, IF

10:10:47 THAT IS NOT TOO MUCH TROUBLE.

10:10:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

10:10:48 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE WIDENING

10:10:54 OF THE AGREEMENT TO EXPAND FROM 3 TO 4 LANES AS I JUST

10:10:57 SAID, AND THE SHARED SCREEN IS A COPY OF THE CONSTRUCTION

10:11:00 PLAN PROVIDED BY THE TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

10:11:02 EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY WHICH SHOWS HOW THE PROPOSED

10:11:04 WIDENING OF WEST SHORE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.

10:11:08 THE GRAY COLOR, THE GRAY HATCH THAT YOU SEE THERE, SOLID

10:11:12 HATCH GRAY, IS PAVEMENT THAT WILL BE IMPROVED BY OVERLANE

10:11:19 METHOD, HATCH WITH CROSSING LINES IS THE PROPOSED

10:11:22 PAVEMENT WIDENING TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC LANE.

10:11:26 THIS PROJECT IS WIDENING WILL IMPROVE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS

10:11:29 IN THE AREA.

10:11:30 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MICHAEL, AND I WILL SWITCH BACK

10:11:32 TO YOU UNLESS MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE SOME

10:11:34 QUESTIONS FIRST.

10:11:35 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THAT CON COMPLETES -- CONCLUDES OUR




10:11:41 PRESENTATION.

10:11:42 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

10:11:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FROM

10:11:45 COUNCIL, I WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

10:11:49 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC IN PERSON ON THE SECOND

10:11:53 FLOOR?

10:11:58 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]

10:12:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THEY WOULD COME TO THE LECTERN

10:12:06 AND WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN.

10:12:10 OH, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN.

10:12:11 OKAY, YOU ARE FINE.

10:12:12 ALL RIGHT.

10:12:16 YOU ARE OKAY.

10:12:16 YOU WERE SWORN ALREADY.

10:12:18 YOU ARE GOOD.

10:12:20 GO AHEAD.

10:12:20 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES APIECE.

10:12:25 AND MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON LINE REGISTERED?

10:12:34 LET US CHECK REAL QUICK.

10:12:36 WE HAVE GENE STROHMEYER AND ONE MORE PERSON.

10:12:42 WE'LL START WITH YOU, SIR.

10:12:44 AND THEN --

10:12:47 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] I HAVE TWO PARTICULAR ISSUES.

10:13:01 ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT --

10:13:06 THAT INCREASES THE DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY




10:13:09 RESIDENTIAL TO FOUR TIMES FOR THIS PARTICULAR APARTMENT.

10:13:19 [OFF MICROPHONE] IF YOU LOOK AT ALL 2016, THE AREA WAS

10:13:27 53% SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

10:13:30 WITH ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA

10:13:33 OF SOUTH OF GANDY BY THE TIME THAT STUFF IS DONE, WE ARE

10:13:38 GOING TO DRIVE TO 34% SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS, AND THAT'S

10:13:43 DISTRESSING WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN WEST SHORE AND LOOK AT

10:13:46 WALLS OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER OR

10:13:51 BOTH SIDE.

10:13:53 THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE FLOODED,

10:14:00 AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN ENGINEERS HAVING

10:14:06 SEEN WHAT THEY DID IN PORT TAMPA WITH ONE OF THE

10:14:10 DEVELOPMENTS DOWN THERE WHERE WE WENT THROUGH LAST

10:14:12 SUMMER, AND IT RAINED, AND PEOPLE COULD GET IN AND OUT OF

10:14:16 THE DRIVEWAYS, IN AREAS THAT WERE AROUND THE PORT TAMPA

10:14:22 AREA BECAUSE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON DOWN

10:14:25 THERE.

10:14:25 SO ULTIMATELY THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.

10:14:29 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:14:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:14:33 THEY ARE GOING SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND THEN NEXT PERSON.

10:14:42 (TELEPHONE RINGS).

10:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOUR PHONE IS RINGING, PLEASE

10:14:57 MUTE YOURSELF.

10:15:00 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA?




10:15:02 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR?

10:15:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?

10:15:08 YOU ARE COMING IN SLOWLY.

10:15:17 COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN YOU HEAR US?

10:15:30 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:15:31 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT

10:15:38 OF SOUTH TAMPA WHERE OUR MOTTO IS IF IT'S SOUTH OF

10:15:41 KENNEDY WE DON'T NEED IT.

10:15:42 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A LITTLE PERSONAL COMMENT ABOUT WHAT

10:15:45 YOU ALL ARE DISCUSSING EARLIER.

10:15:48 I THINK YOU ALL ARE REALLY UNDERPAID.

10:15:51 YOU SHOULD GET TWICE WHAT YOU ARE MAKING AS A FULL-TIME

10:15:55 JOB.

10:15:55 EVEN TWICE OF WHAT YOU ARE MAKING.

10:15:59 I WOULD RATHER STICK POKERS IN MY EYES THAN WHAT YOU DO.

10:16:02 I THINK THIS COUNCIL REALLY TRULY CARES ABOUT ITS

10:16:05 CITIZENS.

10:16:06 I THINK YOU TRY VERY HARD TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO

10:16:10 WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE

10:16:13 MATTER, AND I AGREE WITH MR. CITRO, YOU NEED MORE

10:16:16 MEETINGS, AND IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB.

10:16:19 IT SHOULD BE TREATED THAT WAY.

10:16:21 ANYHOW, I WANT TO ADDRESS BASICALLY WHAT I SAID BEFORE.

10:16:25 IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCREEN HERE, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE,

10:16:28 THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LOWEST




10:16:33 INTENSITY OF GROWTH, AND AT THIS TIME HIGHEST INTENSITY

10:16:35 OF GROWTH, AND THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU IS IN THAT SAME

10:16:38 AREA, AND THIS IS JUST A BIG CONCERN, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT

10:16:43 WHERE THE CITY WANTS THE GROWTH TO BE.

10:16:45 AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, SOUTH TAMPA IS FIRST.

10:16:50 THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST GROWTH RATE IN THE CITY.

10:16:52 THESE TWO ARE STATISTIC ANOMALIES BECAUSE THEIR NUMBERS

10:16:59 ARE SO LOW.

10:16:59 IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO TOLD ME THIS AND I GOT

10:17:03 THESE NUMBERS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PROPERTY

10:17:05 APPRAISER, AND THE CITY AGAIN, LIKE I SHOWED YOU HERE, IT

10:17:09 WAS 53% SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN 2016 AFTER ALL THESE

10:17:15 PROJECTS ARE DEVELOPED, IT'S GOING TO BE 34%.

10:17:18 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

10:17:19 THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THAT AREA IS RIDICULOUS.

10:17:23 I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALIZES THAT THERE HAS BEEN MORE

10:17:27 THAN A DOUBLING OF MULTIFAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA.

10:17:32 114% INCREASE.

10:17:34 AND I HONESTLY DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALIZES IT.

10:17:37 AND WE HAVE GOT THESE FIGURES FROM THE PROPERTY

10:17:39 APPRAISER'S OFFICE.

10:17:40 WE ARE HAPPY TO SHARE E-MAILS WITH YOU.

10:17:42 AND AGAIN, IN THE COMP PLAN, IT SAYS HOW TAMPA SHOULD

10:17:48 HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN ESTABLISHED AREA AND PART

10:17:51 OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT'S UNSTABLE AND FLOOD PRONE,




10:17:55 THERE ARE LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE OPEN SPACES AND

10:17:58 SERVICES TO INCREASE DEMANDS OR COMMUNITY FACILITIES,

10:18:02 THERE'S LIMITED ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION, FACILITIES

10:18:04 WHICH WOULD BE RESOURCE INEFFICIENT TO IMPROVE AND BE

10:18:10 COMPROMISED BY INCREASED URBANIZATION.

10:18:12 SO THIS IS THE CITY'S OWN PLAN, THE CITY'S OWN

10:18:16 UNDERSTANDING OF THE AREA, AND OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING HAS

10:18:20 GONE WRONG, AND IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL.

10:18:23 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU FINISH SOON.

10:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

10:18:51 >> GOOD EVENING.

10:18:53 YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS ONE.

10:18:56 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I SAY THAT.

10:18:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE

10:19:00 RECORD.

10:19:01 >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, SOUTH OF GANDY YES, SIR RESIDENT.

10:19:05 HERE IS MY THING.

10:19:05 THERE'S ONE ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS SOUTH OF THIS ONE THAT

10:19:08 LOOKS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE IT.

10:19:10 IT LOOKS LIKE THE EXACT SAME LAYOUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

10:19:14 IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, AND IT'S GOING

10:19:16 TO BE SINGLE-FAMILY, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO

10:19:19 LIVE THERE AND BREATHE, BUT MY ISSUE, I GO BACK TO I'M

10:19:23 TORN, BECAUSE I GO BACK TO STEVE'S ISSUES, THAT HELLO,

10:19:29 WHEN WE BUILT ALL THIS UP TO PUT 25 UNITS IN THERE, HOW




10:19:34 MUCH FLOODING IS IT GOING TO IMPACT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE

10:19:36 AROUND THEM?

10:19:37 THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.

10:19:39 WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT DOWN ON PRESCOTT AND WEST SHORE

10:19:44 RIGHT NOW.

10:19:44 WE HAVE PEOPLE WADING THROUGH WAIST DEEP WATER AT ETTA,

10:19:50 AND ETTA WAS NOT A BAD STORM IN SEPTEMBER.

10:19:53 SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

10:19:55 IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND PEOPLE LIVED THERE FOR 16,

10:19:58 17 YEARS.

10:19:59 SO MY BIG CONCERN IS THE FLOODING ISSUE AND HOW IS THIS

10:20:03 GOING TO IMPACT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE DIRECTLY

10:20:07 WITHIN THE 250 FEET, WITHIN 500 FEET, AND THOSE ROADS ON

10:20:12 EITHER SIDE OF THIS GENTLEMAN'S HOUSE ARE THE INDY 500.

10:20:18 WHEN I WAS PASSING OUT FLYERS IT WAS VERY SCARY TO WAKE

10:20:22 DOWN THE STREET AND PUT FLYERS OUT.

10:20:24 THANK YOU.

10:20:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:20:27 I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL FOR THE LIVE INDIVIDUAL.

10:20:30 WE HAVE ONE CALL-IN, VIRTUAL, JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:20:37 >> CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?

10:20:48 >> YES, WE CAN.

10:20:49 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:20:49 >> MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:20:54 RESIDENT OF SOUTH OF GANDY.




10:20:58 I JUST REALLY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS WHAT WAS GOING ON

10:21:02 IN THIS PROPERTY.

10:21:05 I TAKE FROM THIS WE HAVE ONE HOUSE TURNING INTO 21 HOMES.

10:21:12 SO WE DO THE MATH.

10:21:15 IT'S A LOT.

10:21:16 IT'S A LOT MORE THAN IT WAS, AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE

10:21:19 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.

10:21:22 I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY OTHER THAN, ONE GOING TO

10:21:27 21.

10:21:28 SO I WILL TRY TO GET MY WAY UP WEST SHORE WHEN I CAN.

10:21:36 THANKS EVERYBODY.

10:21:36 HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

10:21:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:21:42 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:21:49 ALL RIGHT.

10:21:51 REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT?

10:21:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.

10:21:55 I WAS JUST WONDERING WHETHER IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR

10:21:58 STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE

10:22:02 THE ISSUE OF FLOODING RELATIVE TO SPECIFICALLY ZONING.

10:22:06 THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSES OF

10:22:09 THE RECORD, AND MAYBE PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT MR. HORNER

10:22:13 WILL ADDRESS.

10:22:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:22:14 MR. MANASSE.




10:22:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: SO THIS DID GET REVIEWED BY THE

10:22:18 STORMWATER DEPARTMENT AS PART OF REZONING, SHOWING THE

10:22:21 METHOD OF STORMWATER RETENTION.

10:22:23 THAT'S AS FAR AS IT GOES.

10:22:24 I'M NOT A STORMWATER ENGINEER BUT OUR DEPARTMENT DID

10:22:27 REVIEW THAT, AND THEY FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.

10:22:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:22:33 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

10:22:38 ALL RIGHT.

10:22:38 HEARING NONE, MR. HORNER, IF YOU HAVE REBUTTAL.

10:22:41 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL.

10:22:44 I WILL BE BRIEF.

10:22:46 I WILL ADDRESS THE INITIAL COMMENTS, AND I WILL DEFER TO

10:22:49 THE ENGINEER UPON MY CONCLUSION.

10:22:53 I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT THESE ARE NOT MULTIFAMILY

10:22:56 APARTMENTS.

10:22:56 THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION WAS ALL ABOUT MULTIFAMILY AND

10:23:05 STACKED UNITS.

10:23:05 THESE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.

10:23:08 THEY WILL BE SOLD FEE SIMPLE, IN ALL PROBABILITY.

10:23:13 RANGES 400 THAT YOU.

10:23:14 WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS, SO WE HAVE WALKING PEDESTRIAN

10:23:19 CONNECTIONS, WE HAVE MAINTAINED A BUFFER TO THE EAST.

10:23:22 QUITE HONESTLY, COUNCIL, WE COULD HAVE FILED FOR A PLAN

10:23:25 AMENDMENT AND BROUGHT IN THE BALANCE OF THAT REZ 10, CMU




10:23:29 CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTHERN TRACK, THEN ALL THE CMUs

10:23:34 HILLSBOROUGH AT LEAST 30 TO 50 APARTMENTS ON THE SITE.

10:23:38 MY CLIENTS DON'T DON THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

10:23:40 THEY DO ONLY SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.

10:23:41 THIS MAKES SENSE.

10:23:42 THIS WORKS.

10:23:44 WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH SWFWMD AND STAFF AND THE

10:23:48 PLANNING COMMISSION TO ENSURE, THEIR DESIGN INTENTIONS.

10:23:53 I'M PROUD OF IT.

10:23:54 THE ELEVATIONS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

10:23:56 I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

10:23:58 I SINCERELY DO.

10:23:59 AND I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY WEST SHORE HAS A LOT OF

10:24:02 TRAFFIC ON IT

10:24:05 WE KNOW THINGS WILL IMPROVE.

10:24:07 BUT THIS HAS ALREADY GONE COMMERCIAL.

10:24:10 IT IS ALL RIGHT BUILT A LOT MORE INTENSIVE, AND WE ARE

10:24:14 FAR BELOW THE MAX DENSITY.

10:24:18 30 SECOND ON DRAINAGE.

10:24:22 >> BRAULIO GRAJALES: THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

10:24:26 IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN ONE MORE TIME

10:24:30 TO SHOW A REAL QUICK PICTURE, VERY QUICK PICTURE HERE.

10:24:39 YOU DON'T SEE IT.

10:24:40 NOT YET.

10:24:41 THIS IS A SITE PLAN, AND PLEASE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO




10:24:45 THE POOL BECAUSE THE POOL HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOVED.

10:24:48 MICHAEL SAID IT EARLIER.

10:24:50 BUT THIS IS THE EXTENT OF UNDERGROUND STORAGE THAT IS

10:24:56 GOING TO PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY, ALL THE YELLOW SQUARES

10:25:01 ARE UNDERGROUND, UNDERGROUND STORAGE, THAT WILL PROVIDE

10:25:07 ENOUGH VOLUME FOR THE PROPERTY TO HAVE LIKE I MENTIONED A

10:25:15 SUFFICIENT VOLUME TO MANAGE THE STORMWATER ON THIS

10:25:19 PROPERTY.

10:25:19 THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

10:25:20 >>MICHAEL HORNER: THANK YOU.

10:25:23 COUNCIL, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE GONE THROUGH SUCH INTENSIVE

10:25:26 DESIGN ENGINEERING ON THIS.

10:25:27 THIS IS NOT -- THIS PLAN HAS BEEN ENGINEERED, AND WE

10:25:32 ACTUALLY HAD TO GO BACK AND REDESIGN AND PULL OUT SOME

10:25:35 BETTER US HAVE SURFACE.

10:25:37 THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MOST

10:25:40 OVERENGINEERED PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE.

10:25:43 WE CAN A SURE THE NEIGHBORS NO WE WILL BE ACCOMMODATING

10:25:47 ALL OF THAT STORMWATER PLUS WATER QUALITY NEEDS, AND

10:25:51 AGAIN WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

10:25:52 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

10:25:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM

10:25:56 COUNCIL?

10:25:59 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

10:26:02 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.




10:26:03 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:26:05 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:26:08 I FORGOT WHERE I LEFT OFF.

10:26:12 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THIS ONE?

10:26:15 I KNOW CARLSON WAS LAST.

10:26:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE THE AGENDA IN FRONT OF

10:26:23 YOU TO READ THIS ITEM?

10:26:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE TROUBLE HEARING YOU.

10:26:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.

10:26:32 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:26:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:26:34 CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME NOW?

10:26:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU MIND TAKING ITEM NUMBER 6?

10:26:40 >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN DO THAT, YES, SIR.

10:26:47 I READ AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

10:26:50 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

10:26:53 GENERAL VICINITY OF 5100 SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD IN

10:26:57 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

10:26:59 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT REZ 75

10:27:05 RESIDENTIAL LAND USE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE PD PLANNED

10:27:09 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN

10:27:12 EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:27:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHILE YOU ARE DOING THAT, IS YOUR

10:27:20 CAMERA ON?

10:27:22 THIS IS MARTIN SHELBY.




10:27:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT IS.

10:27:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:27:26 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

10:27:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.

10:27:29 WE HEARD YOU.

10:27:30 I JUST COULDN'T SEE.

10:27:31 UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE COULD, I COULD NOT.

10:27:33 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

10:27:36 APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF FOR THE

10:27:42 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY CODE.

10:27:45 I ALSO ADOPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY STAFF REPORTS.

10:27:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A REVISION SHEET ASSOCIATED,

10:27:53 MR. MANASSE?

10:27:56 >>LUIS VIERA: INCLUDING THAT.

10:27:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I SEE YOUR

10:28:00 HAND.

10:28:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THERE HASN'T BEEN A SECOND YET, I

10:28:04 WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

10:28:05 AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN VERY QUICKLY, I AM VERY

10:28:11 FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, HAVING PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED

10:28:16 DISTRICT 4.

10:28:18 I WANT TO GET REALISTIC.

10:28:20 THAT PROPERTY IS RATE ON WEST SHORE.

10:28:24 I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC TO EXPECT THAT IT'S EVER

10:28:27 GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED SO THE




10:28:32 NEXT BEST THING IS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AND THAT'S

10:28:35 WHAT BE THIS PROPOSAL IS.

10:28:37 I THINK IT'S FAIRLY REASONABLE, AND I'M NOT PARTICULARLY

10:28:42 CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORMWATER BECAUSE I DO HAVE FAITH IN

10:28:46 THE FOLKS WHO ARE REVIEWING THE STORMWATER AT THE

10:28:52 DEVELOPMENT PHASE AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ABIDE

10:28:56 BY THE STORMWATER CODE AND THE STANDARD.

10:28:58 SO WITH THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

10:29:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

10:29:03 VIERA.

10:29:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:29:06 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:29:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:29:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:29:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:

10:29:13 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

10:29:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:29:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:29:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:29:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT

10:29:24 VOTE.

10:29:24 CARLSON VOTING NO.

10:29:25 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

10:29:28 AT 9:30 A.M.

10:29:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT ITEM HAS A LOT OF PUBLIC




10:29:34 COMMENT.

10:29:34 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK THEN?

10:29:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:29:39 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 5-MINUTE RECESS BECAUSE THE NEXT

10:29:41 ONE HAS QUITE A FEW REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

10:29:45 FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.

10:29:46

10:29:47 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).

10:37:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL PLEASE.

10:37:50 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

10:38:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, CAN YOU HEAR US?

10:38:10 WE ARE DOING ROLL CALL.

10:38:11 >>JIM CREW: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE BROADCAST IS RUNNING.

10:38:28 SAY ROLL CALL.

10:38:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL?

10:38:31 EVERYTHING IS DELAYED.

10:38:31 >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA?

10:38:36 >> CAN HE HEAR US?

10:38:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK SO.

10:38:44 >> WE CAN'T HEAR --

10:38:54 >>> I CAN HEAR YOU, VIERA.

10:38:55 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

10:39:04 YOU CAN SAY TAKE ROLL.

10:39:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DID.

10:39:07 THE CLERK IS CALLING YOUR NAME.




10:39:08 VIERA.

10:39:09 [ LAUGHTER ]

10:39:10 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

10:39:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M HERE.

10:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

10:39:14 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

10:39:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

10:39:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

10:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

10:39:24 ALL RIGHT, MR. MANASSE, TAKE IT AWAY.

10:39:26 ITEM NUMBER 8.

10:39:27 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 8 IS FAIL REZ 20-103 FOR

10:39:34 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE.

10:39:37 THE REQUEST IS FOR OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL

10:39:42 OFFICE, HOTEL, MEDICAL HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL.

10:39:50 PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

10:39:52 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

10:39:53 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

10:39:58 THANK YOU.

10:39:59 AS RYAN STATED, THIS IS 20-103, IT IS SOUTH TAMPA

10:40:06 PLANNING DISTRICT, WESTSHORE EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

10:40:12 IT IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE, OUTLINED ON

10:40:17 THE SCREEN IN THE PURPLE.

10:40:20 THERE'S A VARIETY OF USES WITHIN THE AREA, TO THE NORTH

10:40:23 IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE WESTSHORE MALL.




10:40:29 BUT I POINTED OUT ON THE YELLOW STARS, THOSE ARE SOME OF

10:40:32 THE HAIR RAISE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THE RED STARS ABOUT 7

10:40:37 OR 8 STORY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE SURROUNDING

10:40:40 AREA.

10:40:40 THIS DEVELOPMENT PATTERN DOES TRANSITION TO SINGLE-FAMILY

10:40:43 DETACHED EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

10:40:46 AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE -- I

10:40:52 APOLOGIZE -- TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THAT

10:40:55 OFFICE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WE SEE IN WESTSHORE.

10:41:01 THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS REGIONAL MIXED USE 100,

10:41:05 THE DARK PURPOSE COLOR, THEN TRANSITIONS TO RESIDENTIAL 6

10:41:09 WHICH IS THE YELLOW.

10:41:10 NOW, THIS IS A LITTLE INTERESTING BECAUSE MIXED USE 100

10:41:16 IS THE HIGHEST RESIDENTIAL SECTION, RESIDENTIAL 6 IS ONE

10:41:19 OF OUR LOWEST RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

10:41:22 SO THERE IS THAT PATTERN ALREADY PRESENT ON THE FUTURE

10:41:26 LAND USE MAP ON THE SITE.

10:41:30 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES ENCOURAGE A MIX OF USES, TO

10:41:34 SUPPORT WALKING AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND IT SEEKS

10:41:37 TO PROVIDE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN CONSISTENT

10:41:39 WITH THE COMPACT CITY FORM STRATEGY WHICH PROVIDES

10:41:43 HOUSING AND HAIR DENSITIES IN PROXIMITY FOR EMPLOYMENT

10:41:47 AND TRANSIT, WHICH IS WHERE THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER,

10:41:51 THERE'S MULTIPLE TRANSIT CONNECTIONS IN THIS AREA

10:41:56 SUPPORTING THIS ZONING.




10:41:58 I ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING

10:42:00 APPROXIMATELY 46% OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL

10:42:05 CONSIDERED FOR THIS SITE.

10:42:07 THE F.A.R. AND THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 DESIGNATION IS

10:42:11 UP TO A 3.25, AND THE APPLICANT WITH THEIR PROPOSAL OF

10:42:16 APPROXIMATELY 440,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT THAT

10:42:22 COMES OUT TO APPROXIMATELY 46% OF THAT TOTAL THAT CAN BE

10:42:25 REQUESTED.

10:42:26 I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT REGIONAL MIXED USE 100 PATTERN

10:42:31 CONTINUES, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, APPROXIMATELY 7 TO

10:42:36 8 STORIES, AND THE HIGHER DENSITY OFFICE BUILDING, AND

10:42:40 TRANSITIONS TO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AS NOTED BY THE

10:42:44 RESIDENTIAL 6 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

10:42:47 SO WE DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT.

10:42:49 WE FOUND THAT IT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT

10:42:52 PATTERN, AND THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN

10:42:56 ENCOURAGED THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ESPECIALLY

10:43:00 POLICIES.

10:43:01 THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA,

10:43:04 THOUGH, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT NOTE TO TAKE INTO

10:43:08 CONSIDERATION, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT, AND THAT CONCLUDES

10:43:11 MY PRESENTATION.

10:43:12 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

10:43:13 THANK YOU.

10:43:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




10:43:15 ANY QUESTIONS?

10:43:17 MR. MANASSE.

10:43:18 >>RYAN MANASSE: LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.

10:43:25 THANK YOU, SIR.

10:43:25 ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ 20-103, AGAIN THE REZONING IS

10:43:30 REQUESTING FROM PD WHICH IS APPROVED FOR OFFICE BUSINESS

10:43:33 PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY,

10:43:37 AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL

10:43:40 MEDICAL OFFICE.

10:43:41 HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.

10:43:46 YOU WILL SEA PROPOSED WAIVERS THAT WERE FOUR PREVIOUSLY

10:43:49 APPROVED WAIVERS IN FILE REZ 18-84, AND THEN YOU WILL SEE

10:43:54 BOTTOM SECTION HERE WHERE YOU SEE WAIVERS BEING

10:43:57 REQUESTED.

10:43:57 ALTHOUGH THEY ARE BEING REQUESTED, STAFF DID NOT HAVE AN

10:44:01 ISSUE WITH THESE WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.

10:44:04 AGAIN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY

10:44:06 AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE FROM PD TO PD FOR OFFICE,

10:44:15 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL, HOTEL, MULTIFAMILY AND

10:44:19 RESIDENTIAL.

10:44:20 IT WAS FILED IN 2018, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW TWO 7 STORY

10:44:25 OFFICE TOWERS AT 115 FEET BUILDING HEIGHT AND A 7-STORY

10:44:29 PARKING GARAGE AT 106 BUILDING HEIGHT.

10:44:31 THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF I-275, WEST OF

10:44:37 SOUTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARINER




10:44:40 STREET AND BAY CENTER DRIVE.

10:44:42 THE SUBJECT PARCEL CONTAINS 6.26 ACRES AND THE APPLICANT

10:44:46 PROPOSES TWO OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, BOTH

10:44:49 OPTIONS INCLUDE RETAINING THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING

10:44:51 AND PARKING GARAGE APPROVED IN THAT REZ 1884, AND I TRIED

10:44:55 TO DO A LITTLE TABLE SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE TWO OPTIONS.

10:44:59 YOU CAN SEE THE 1884 AND THE EXISTING APPROVALS, AND THEN

10:45:03 THE TWO OPTIONS FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING 7 STORY PARKING

10:45:06 GARAGE, 11 STORIES, AND THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING NINE

10:45:10 STORY PARKING GARAGE AND THEN THE BUILDING HEIGHTS OVER

10:45:12 HERE.

10:45:17 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY

10:45:19 DISTRICT.

10:45:20 HOWEVER, GIVEN THE 50 PERCENT CONSTRUCTION AND

10:45:25 APPLICATION OF THE STANDARDS APPLIES TO ONLY A PORTION OF

10:45:27 THE PROPERTY, AND WOULD RESULT IN SOMEWHAT DISJOINTED

10:45:31 DEVELOPMENT.

10:45:31 A WAIVER IS BEING REQUESTED FROM THE OVERLAY STANDARD TO

10:45:34 ALLOW THAT GENERAL CODE TO APPLY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AS

10:45:37 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

10:45:38 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONFIGURED WITH TWO TOWERS ON

10:45:40 THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

10:45:42 THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND PROPOSED OFFICE OR

10:45:44 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING AND THE GARAGE STRUCTURES ON THE

10:45:47 EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO INCLUDE THE EXISTING




10:45:51 AND PROPOSED GARAGE IN BOTH DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS,

10:45:54 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE STRUCTURE GARAGE IS LOCATED TO

10:45:56 THE -- I'M SORRY, LOOKING ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH LOADING

10:46:00 ON THE NORTH AND VEHICULAR ARRIVAL PLAZA WITH SURFACE

10:46:03 PARKING ON THE WEST.

10:46:04 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS FOR THE PROPERTY ARE IN

10:46:06 THE TABLE THAT I PROVIDED HERE BELOW.

10:46:09 AS YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING SET BANKS, WE CAN GO NORTH IS

10:46:12 25, SOUTH 10, EAST IS 5 AND THEN WEST IS 20.

10:46:17 THE GARAGE IS NORTH ON NORTH 25, SOUTH 20 FEET, EAST 25

10:46:22 FEET, AND THE WEST IS NOT APPLICABLE.

10:46:28 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP FOR OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED

10:46:31 IN RED.

10:46:32 AND THEN THERE ARE IN A LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC

10:46:35 LANDMARKS WITHIN THIS THOUSAND FEET.

10:46:37 AS YOU CAN SEE THE AIRPORT IS TO THE NORTH AND OBVIOUSLY

10:46:40 I-275 HERE AND JENNIFER EXPLAINED THIS, MORE OFFICE USES

10:46:45 HERE AND THEN ITSELF GETS TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND

10:46:47 THEN DIRECTLY INTO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED GOING WEST, AND

10:46:50 THEN MAINTAINING THAT OFFICE, THOSE OFFICE BUILDING

10:46:54 COMMERCIAL USES GOING EAST, AND THEN THERE'S SOME

10:46:56 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY HERE AS WELL AS OFFICE.

10:47:01 THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED ELECTRONICALLY,

10:47:08 DELIVERED TO YOU, COUNCIL, I PULLED A COUPLE OF PAGES THE

10:47:12 FOR THIS PowerPoint.




10:47:13 THIS IS OPTION 1.

10:47:14 AND ILLEGALITY THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN MORE OPTIONS IN

10:47:17 DETAIL.

10:47:18 I'M SURE DAVID MECHANIK HAS A GOOD PRESENTATION FOR THAT.

10:47:22 SO I PUT UP BOTH OPTIONS SO YOU CAN GENERALLY SEE WHAT

10:47:26 COINCIDES WITH MY SUMMARY AND THE STAFF REPORTED.

10:47:29 THEN THEY DID PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2

10:47:33 FOR ELEVATIONS AS WELL.

10:47:35 AND THAT'S WHAT'S LATER IN THE SLIDE AS WE GO DOWN.

10:47:40 AND THEN THE PHOTOS OF THE SITE ITSELF, THE SUBJECT SITE

10:47:43 VIEWING WEST, AND THEN THERE'S A VIEW SOUTHEAST.

10:47:48 THAT'S THE EXISTING PARKING GARAGE AND THE EXISTING

10:47:50 BUILDING.

10:47:51 AND THEN THIS IS THE BAY CENTER DRIVE.

10:47:53 IT WRAPS AROUND, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AERIAL THAT WRAPS

10:47:57 AROUND THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.

10:48:00 GETS BACK ONTO MARINER STREET.

10:48:03 SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF

10:48:05 THE VICINITY.

10:48:06 LOOKING OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THIS PICTURE WOULD

10:48:07 BE LOOKING WEST, LOOKING SOUTH BUT OVER HERE TO THE WEST,

10:48:11 AND THAT'S THE CANAL THAT LEADS WEST.

10:48:14 AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON BAY CENTER.

10:48:20 AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE -- I'M

10:48:24 SORRY, NORTHEAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOST




10:48:27 DEVELOPMENT.

10:48:28 I DO HAVE A REVISED REVISION SHEET THAT WAS SENT OUT.

10:48:31 I DID PUT IN A PowerPoint AS WELL.

10:48:34 I KNOW IT WAS VERY FAST BUT MAINLY IT WAS JUST BETWEEN

10:48:37 MYSELF AND THE ACT AND MR. COEN TO MAKE SURE WE CLEARLY

10:48:44 DEFINE THESE TWO OPTIONS IN THE SITE DATA TABLE AND THE

10:48:49 DATA TABLE WASN'T CHANGED FOR THE DRC MEETING.

10:48:54 OTHER THAN THAT THE OTHER REVISIONS ARE THE SAME AS THE

10:48:56 STAFF REPORT.

10:48:57 AGAIN, I JUST PROVIDED THAT HERE IN THE PowerPoint.

10:49:03 WITH THAT BEING SAID THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND

10:49:06 COMPLIANCE STAFF FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF

10:49:08 TAMPA APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT

10:49:10 REGULATIONS.

10:49:12 SHOULD IT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE

10:49:14 WAIVERS, I HAVE IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT THERE ARE SOME

10:49:17 MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND

10:49:20 SECOND READING AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT

10:49:23 REVISION SHEET IN THE ORDINANCE.

10:49:24 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

10:49:26 >> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

10:49:30 ALL RIGHT, MR. MECHANIK.

10:49:32 AND MR. COEN, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HANDS SO WE CAN

10:49:39 SWEAR YOU IN.

10:49:41 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).




10:49:41 >> I DO.

10:49:43 >> I DO.

10:49:44 >>THE CLERK: AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN

10:49:46 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.

10:49:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:49:48 WE HAVE HOW MANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE?

10:49:50 >> WE HAVE SEVEN BUT ONLY FIVE ARE SIGNED IN.

10:49:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MECHANIK, GO AHEAD.

10:49:58 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL

10:50:00 MEMBERS.

10:50:01 I'M DAVID MECHANIK.

10:50:03 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

10:50:09 I HAVE WITH ME TIM GRAFF, AND I HAVE DAN WOODWARD OF

10:50:15 HIGHWOODS PROPERTIES.

10:50:17 ALSO WITH ME IS RANDY COEN OF COEN AND COMPANY.

10:50:24 RYAN DID A FAIRLY THOROUGH JOB IN HIS REPORT.

10:50:27 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TRAY AND SYNTHESIZE THIS BY

10:50:31 SAYING THAT WE ARE REALLY ONLY ASKING FOR TWO CHANGES TO

10:50:35 THE APPROVED SITE PLAN, AND THAT IS THE SECOND BUILDING

10:50:40 FOOTPRINT IS PROPOSED TO BE SLIGHTLY LARGER AND THE

10:50:48 BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE SLIGHTLY TALLER.

10:50:50 WE ARE ALSO REDUCING THE NUMBER OF PERMITTED UNITS IN THE

10:50:55 BUILDING.

10:50:58 AND RANDY WILL ADDRESS THOSE CHANGES IN MORE DETAIL.

10:51:05 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT WE CONCUR WITH THE STAFF




10:51:08 REPORT AND AGREE TO MAKE ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN

10:51:11 LISTED ON THE REVISED REVISION SHEET, AND I WOULD NOTE

10:51:16 THAT WE HAVE HAD ALL FAVORABLE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY AND

10:51:20 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

10:51:23 AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RANDY.

10:51:25 >> RANDY COEN: I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

10:51:31 >> WE CAN'T SEE IT YET.

10:51:44 THERE WE ARE.

10:51:45 GO AHEAD.

10:51:52 RANDY COEN, WEST CYPRESS STREET.

10:51:55 I HAVE BEEN SWORN, COEN AND COMPANY.

10:51:58 YOU WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT

10:52:01 TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND.

10:52:02 THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2004, THE NORTH

10:52:05 OFFICE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AT THAT TIME, AND A

10:52:09 PORTION OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS CONSTRUCTED AT THAT

10:52:11 TIME.

10:52:12 IN 2018, THE PROJECT WAS REZONED.

10:52:16 THE SECOND BUILDING WAS ENLARGED TO 223,488 SQUARE FEET.

10:52:25 OFFICE FOR UP TO 546 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, OR UP TO 524

10:52:30 HOTEL UNITS.

10:52:31 SO IT WAS A BUILDING THAT THIS H THREE OPTIONS, AND

10:52:35 THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS.

10:52:38 THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE SECOND PAGE MUCH REZ 1884 APPROVAL.

10:52:46 JUST TO WALK THROUGH, RYAN ALREADY SHOWED YOU THE




10:52:49 ELEVATIONS OUT OF THE 1884 REZONING.

10:52:52 PROJECT YOU APPROVED AT THIS POINT.

10:52:55 I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO WHAT IS PROPOSED AT THIS POINT.

10:52:57 OPTION 1.

10:52:58 AS YOU SEA, OPTION 1 IS I HAD SCHOOL TO THE CURRENT

10:53:01 APPROVAL, REZ 1884.

10:53:04 THE EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NORTH.

10:53:06 FIRST HALF OF THE PARKING GARAGE CONSTRUCTED.

10:53:08 LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDING TO THE SOUTH.

10:53:11 AND A SUBSTANTIAL GARAGE EXPANSION.

10:53:14 SECOND PAGE, SAME THING, SAME AS OPTION 1.

10:53:18 OPTION 1 IS THE REZONING REZ 1884.

10:53:22 OPTION 2, WHICH WE ARE SHOWING HERE, IS WHAT WE ARE

10:53:26 ACTUALLY REQUESTING APPROVAL OF FOR TONIGHT SINCE OPTION

10:53:29 1 IS ALREADY APPROVED.

10:53:32 FIRST, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?

10:53:36 THEY WANTED THIS TO BECOME A MIXED USE PROJECT, THEY

10:53:39 WANTED TO HAVE A USE IN THE SOUTH BUILDING THAT WAS

10:53:42 COMPLEMENTARY TO THEIR OFFICE BUILDING.

10:53:44 THEY WANTED TO FIND A HIGH-END MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER WHO

10:53:47 DEVELOPED ON AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT AND WOULD BE

10:53:49 LONG-TERM AS FAR AS THEIR OWNERSHIP.

10:53:52 THEY FOUND CRESCENT COMMUNITIES THAT DOES EXACTLY THAT,

10:53:57 HEY END RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENTS, LONG

10:54:00 TIME OWNERSHIP AND CRESCENT COMMUNITIES WAS ACTUALLY




10:54:04 AWARDED LAST YEAR THE NATIONAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT

10:54:07 FIRM OF THE YEAR.

10:54:08 SO VERY IMPRESSIVE.

10:54:11 MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT'S REALLY

10:54:14 GOING ON HERE.

10:54:15 THE OPTION 1 BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS THIS RIGHT HERE.

10:54:19 VERY RECTANGULAR -- RECTANGULAR BUILDING.

10:54:24 WE ARE LOOKING TO RECONFIGURE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT,

10:54:27 MAKE IT NARROWER AND LONGER.

10:54:29 THAT TAKES US FROM A BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF 32,000 SQUARE

10:54:32 FEET TO 38,000 SQUARE FEET, ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO

10:54:36 WRAP THE BUILDING A ROUND AND MASK THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

10:54:40 THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.

10:54:45 THE NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THIS PROJECT IN OPTION

10:54:49 2 ARE REDUCED FROM THE APPROVED 546 UNITS TO 292 UNITS.

10:54:54 THAT'S A REDUCTION OF 47%, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE

10:54:59 CONSTRUCTED OR CAN BE CONSTRUCTED IN OPTION 2 COMPARED TO

10:55:02 OPTION 1.

10:55:03 REQUESTING THE BUILDING HEIGHT BE INCREASED BY 23 FEET.

10:55:08 TALKED ABOUT THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

10:55:10 AVIATION AUTHORITY HAS DEEMED THE APPROPRIATE HEIGHT AT

10:55:15 138 FEET ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL, AND IN FACT WE HAVE

10:55:18 PERMITS NOW FROM THE FEDERAL AVIATION AUTHORITY FOR THAT

10:55:22 BUILDING HEIGHT OF ACTUALLY 135 FEET, BECAUSE THE PLAN ON

10:55:28 THE BUILDING WAS MORE REFINED THAN IT STARTED OUT.




10:55:33 THE OTHER NICE THING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THE FACT THAT

10:55:35 WE ARE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS INSTEAD

10:55:39 OF HAVING A GARAGE EXPANSION THAT IT COVERS THIS ENTIRE

10:55:42 AREA.

10:55:44 THE GARAGE EXPANSION IS REDUCED BY 50%.

10:55:49 IT IS A GOOD SAVINGS FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

10:55:51 WE ALSO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC AS A

10:55:54 RESULT OF THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS GOING DOWN.

10:55:57 FOR THE SECOND BUILDING THE REDUCTION IN PROJECT TRAFFIC

10:56:00 IS 48%.

10:56:02 113 TRIPS LESS IN THE MORNING, 118 TRIPS LESS IN THE

10:56:06 AFTERNOON THAN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN UNDER OPTION 1.

10:56:12 MOVE TO THE NEXT BUILDING, LET'S TALK ABOUT HATE.

10:56:14 WE KNOW FROM AN AVIATION AUTHORITY STANDPOINT AND AN FHA

10:56:20 STANDPOINT THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS ACCEPTABLE.

10:56:21 JENNIFER SAID THIS VERY NICELY.

10:56:25 OUR EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, 115 FEET, WE HAVE AN

10:56:27 8-STORY PARKING GARAGE HERE, WE HAVE A VERY TALL 4-STORY

10:56:32 OFFICE BUILDING HERE.

10:56:33 WE HAVE AN 8-STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING HERE.

10:56:37 WE HAVE AN 8-STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING HERE AND ANOTHER

10:56:40 SIGNIFICANT OFFICE BUILDING HERE.

10:56:44 THERE IS SINGLE-FAMILY ADJACENT TO THESE ADJACENT 8 STORY

10:56:47 MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.

10:56:48 WHEN WE LOOK TO THE EAST WE ARE STILL IN THE OFFICE




10:56:50 BUILDINGS AND OF COURSE THOSE WILL CHANGE OVER TIME.

10:56:54 I WANT TO MOVE FROM THAT TO OUR NEXT SLIDE.

10:56:57 THIS IS OPTION 1.

10:56:59 THE BUILDINGS ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED AND THE REZ 1884

10:57:04 ZONING.

10:57:05 THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE NORTH, SECOND BUILDING ON

10:57:08 THE SOUTH.

10:57:11 THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED TODAY.

10:57:13 MULTIFAMILY BUILDING ON THE SOUTH, WITH A MUCH NARROWER

10:57:17 FACE TO THE WATER, THE EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NORTH.

10:57:20 THIS BUILDING IS 23 FEET TALLER.

10:57:24 DOESN'T SEEM THAT WAY BECAUSE OF HOW WE CALCULATE HEIGHT

10:57:27 BECAUSE OF THE FAA PRESENCE AND ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL.

10:57:33 WANT TO GO BACK FOR A MINUTE NOW TO THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE

10:57:36 BECAUSE LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WAIVERS.

10:57:38 WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE WAIVERS.

10:57:41 FOUR OF WHICH ARE PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED AND TWO OF

10:57:44 THOSE ARE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED.

10:57:46 THE FIRST IS THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY WAIVER AND THAT'S

10:57:50 BECAUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS BILLED BUILT PRAYER TO

10:57:53 THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY BECOMING APPLICABLE ON THIS

10:57:56 PROPERTY AND IT DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE OVERLAY

10:57:59 NECESSITY FOR THAT PARTICULAR WAIVER.

10:58:01 THE SECOND WAIVER IS FOR LOADING BERTHS, AND THAT IS THE

10:58:08 SECOND WAIVER IS VEHICLE MANEUVERING FOR THE LOADING




10:58:10 BERTH.

10:58:11 THIS IS THE EXISTING LOADING FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING

10:58:15 AND THEY ARE BACKING OUT AND MANEUVERING ON THE ROADWAY.

10:58:18 THAT IS APPROVED AND HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR WELL OVER

10:58:20 TEN YEARS AT THIS POINT.

10:58:22 THIRD WAIVER WAS APPROVED FOR REDUCTION OF LOADING BERTHS

10:58:26 FROM 4 TO 2.

10:58:27 WE ARE MODIFYING THAT WAIVER IN THIS REQUEST TO HAVE A

10:58:31 WAIVER REDUCTION FROM 5 LOADING BERTHS TO 2.

10:58:36 IRONICALLY, HAVING TWO LOADING BERTHS IS ACTUALLY

10:58:39 CONSISTENT WITH THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THIS

10:58:42 PARTICULAR CASE.

10:58:43 NUMBER 4 IS A SIGN WAIVER.

10:58:45 SIGN WAIVER WAS ALREADY APPROVED.

10:58:47 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OTHER

10:58:50 THAN THAT, THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED UNDER CODE.

10:58:53 THE ONLY ISSUE WE ARE ASKING FOR AT THIS POINT IS THAT

10:58:55 THIS LOCATION IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE,

10:58:59 BECAUSE THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, BE APPROVED AS A

10:59:02 PART OF THAT WAIVER.

10:59:04 OUR FIFTH AND FINAL WAIVER, WHICH IS THE ONLY TECHNICALLY

10:59:07 NEW WAIVER, IS THAT WE HAVE A REDUCTION REQUEST OF 3% IN

10:59:12 THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PARKING.

10:59:15 THAT PARTICULAR REDUCTION IS FROM 1,213 PARKING SPACES TO

10:59:19 1,177 PARKING SPACES.




10:59:23 THAT'S A REDUCTION OF 36 SPACES.

10:59:25 WE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER LEVEL TO THIS

10:59:30 PARKING GARAGE EXPANSION OR EXPAND IT OUT TO THE EAST.

10:59:34 IT DIDN'T SEEM APPROPRIATE, AND FRANKLY IF WE HAD DONE A

10:59:38 SHARED PARKING CALCULATION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE

10:59:40 COULD HAVE WELL SUPPORTED A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER

10:59:43 PERCENTAGE OF PARKING REDUCTION THAN WHAT'S REQUESTED

10:59:45 HERE.

10:59:46 AND AT THAT POINT I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO

10:59:49 MR. MECHANIK, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:59:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:59:57 >>DAVID MECHANIK: JUST TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE OF POINTS.

11:00:00 THE PARKING REDUCTION REQUESTED IS VIRTUALLY MINIMAL, AND

11:00:09 IT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THE PEAK DEMAND FOR

11:00:13 OFFICE DURING THE DAY IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE PEAK DEMAND

11:00:19 DURING THE EVENING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USES, AND AGAIN

11:00:22 THE REDUCTION IS ONLY 3%.

11:00:26 AND SIMILARLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE

11:00:30 SIGN WAIVER IS NOT TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE BUT

11:00:35 TO JUST ALLOW FLEXIBILITY IN THE LOCATION OF THE SIGNS ON

11:00:39 THE BUILDING FACES.

11:00:42 SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

11:00:44 YOU MAY HAVE.

11:00:45 THANK YOU.

11:00:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM




11:00:48 COUNCIL MEMBERS?

11:00:51 HEARING NONE, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN PERSON, SO

11:00:55 WE HAVE THE REGISTERED VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, IF WE CAN BRING

11:00:58 THEM ON, AND WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN.

11:01:01 >>JIM CREW: WE HAVE FIVE OF THE SEVEN WHO REGISTERED

11:01:14 ONLINE.

11:01:14 I CAN BRING THEM OVER ALL AT ONCE OR --

11:01:18 >>> ALL TOGETHER AT ONCE IS FINE AND THEN I WILL CALL

11:01:21 THEM ONE BY ONE.

11:01:25 >>JIM CREW: IF YOU WILL WAIT UNTIL FIVE APPEAR ONSCREEN

11:01:27 THEN I WILL START BRINGING THEM OVER.

11:01:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:01:29 >>JIM CREW: ALL FIVE, IF YOU WILL TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.

11:02:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS IF YOU ARE

11:02:22 REGISTERED TO SPEAK AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN AT THIS

11:02:25 TIME.

11:02:28 I SEE TIM, ARLIN, DEBRA, THERE WAS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN.

11:02:41 ALL RIGHT.

11:02:41 WE'LL SWEAR IN THE THREE NOW.

11:02:45 TIM, ARLIN AND DEBRA, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT

11:02:48 HANDS.

11:02:56 DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH?

11:02:59 DO YOU HEAR HER?

11:03:01 >>THE CLERK:

11:03:02 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).




11:03:04 >> I DO.

11:03:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:03:06 AND I SEE MCDONALD AS WELL.

11:03:10 LET'S START IN ORDER FROM HOW I SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.

11:03:13 THERE'S ARLIN BEACHY.

11:03:20 >> MY NAME IS ARLIN BEACHY, WEST CLEVELAND STREET, 33629.

11:03:27 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

11:03:28 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING ON

11:03:30 BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AS CONCERNED RESIDENTS OF THE BEACH

11:03:34 PARK NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DUE EAST OF THE PROPOSED

11:03:37 DEVELOPMENT ON BAY CENTER DRIVE.

11:03:39 OUR SPECIFIC CONCERNS ARE TWO FOLD.

11:03:42 THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT WILL ADVERSELY -- FOR A

11:03:48 NEIGHBORHOOD STREET THAT'S ALREADY BURDENED WITH

11:03:51 CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC AND SECONDLY THAT THE ADDED

11:03:55 RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FROM THIS PROJECT WILL DEVALUE OUR

11:03:59 NEIGHBORHOOD'S RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

11:04:01 MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS ON WEST CLEVELAND

11:04:04 STREET FOR -- YEARS, THE STREET IS EAST-WEST NEIGHBORHOOD

11:04:08 STREET, IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BEACH PARK

11:04:12 NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:04:14 [~DISTORTION~] WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO THE EAST.

11:04:19 THE STRETCH OF ROAD IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE

11:04:21 LONG, AND FROM THIS PROPOSED.

11:04:28 THE FIRST STREET ACCESSIBLE FROM I-275 TO ON-RAMP




11:04:32 OFF-RAMP OF THE TAMPA SIDE OF THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE

11:04:35 AND BECAUSE OF THIS EASY ACCESS TO THE BRIDGE, WAS

11:04:39 CLEVELAND STREET ALONG WITH OTHER BEACH PARK STREETS TO

11:04:42 OUR SOUTH ARE ALREADY BURDENED WITH BEING KNOWN

11:04:45 CUT-THROUGH STREETS THAT PROVIDE THOSE COMMUTING BETWEEN

11:04:48 SOUTH TAMPA AND PINELLAS COUNTY AS ALTERNATIVE ROUTE

11:04:53 BETWEEN I-275 WITHOUT BEING STOPPED BY ANY OF THE FIVE

11:05:01 TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT THEY OTHERWISE FACE IF THEY INSTEAD

11:05:04 USE THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD CORRIDOR THAT'S BLOCKED

11:05:07 IMMEDIATELY TO OUR NORTH.

11:05:08 ALSO OUR STRETCH OF WEST CLEVELAND STREET AT THE STOP

11:05:11 SIGNS TO SLOB EAST-WEST TRAFFIC BETWEEN HAVER AND

11:05:15 WESTSHORE, THIS HAS QUASI-SPEED TABLE AND WE FIND THAT

11:05:19 MANY DRIVERS AREN'T SLOWED BY THEM.

11:05:21 ACCORDINGLY, WE ARE -- CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND

11:05:25 THE CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS TO

11:05:30 AND FROM WESTSHORE, AS THE RESIDENTS PROJECTS AND/OR

11:05:34 WORKERS ALMOST DON'T TRY TO AVOID THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD

11:05:40 CORRIDOR WHEN ACCESSING PARTS OF SOUTH TAMPA.

11:05:42 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE CITY BE MINDFUL AND TAKE THIS

11:05:47 CONCERN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN APPROVING HIGHER DENSITY

11:05:50 DEVELOPMENTS, AND REZONING APPLICATIONS AS WELL AS FUTURE

11:05:53 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS IN THIS AREA.

11:05:55 WE ALSO REQUEST WAYS TO DISINCENTIVIZE TRAFFIC FOR FUTURE

11:06:03 RESIDENTS FROM HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT FROM CUTTING




11:06:07 THROUGH, BY IMPROVING TRAFFIC FLOW ON THE KENNEDY

11:06:12 BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, AND/OR BY CONSEQUENTIAL TRAFFIC

11:06:17 CALMING MEASURES ON OUR STREET SUCH AS STOP SIGNS, SPEED

11:06:21 BUMPS, ET CETERA.

11:06:23 ALSO, I HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN WITH THE

11:06:26 DENSITY OF THE PROJECT, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF THE

11:06:29 PROJECT THAT COULD RESULT IN POTENTIALLY TRANSPORTATION

11:06:36 HAVING ROUTES THAT ARE REDIRECTED THROUGH OUR STREET OR

11:06:39 ONTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET POTENTIALLY THAT WITH BUS

11:06:44 STOPS AND WHILE WE UNDERSTAND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS A

11:06:46 VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE, IT CAN ALSO

11:06:51 ADD FURTHER CONGESTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:06:55 FINALLY, WE ALSO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED THAT AN

11:07:02 INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY COULD CAUSE COUNTY

11:07:06 SCHOOLS TO REZONE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM WHAT'S CONSIDERED

11:07:08 TO BE ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY DESIRED PUBLIC SCHOOL ZONES

11:07:12 IN THE COUNTY, AND IN DOING SO DEVALUES THE NEIGHBORHOOD

11:07:17 AND THE HOMES WITHOUT PROVIDING US WITH ANY ADDED VALUE

11:07:20 OR AMENITIES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:07:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:07:25 >> WE THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND APPRECIATE IT.

11:07:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

11:07:29 NEXT UP IS TIM MCGAUGHEY.

11:07:32 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

11:07:33 YOU MAY SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.




11:07:34 >> I COULD ALSO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.

11:07:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:07:39 I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE SEE IT.

11:07:55 NOT YET.

11:07:55 >> IT MAY TAKE ME OUT.

11:08:18 OH, WAIT A SECOND.

11:08:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE ARE.

11:08:21 WE SEE IT.

11:08:21 BEACH PARK HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

11:08:23 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:08:24 >> EXCELLENT.

11:08:26 ALL RIGHT.

11:08:28 MY NAME IS TIM McGOVRY, 1011 SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE

11:08:35 SPEAKING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BEACH PARK HOMEOWNERS

11:08:37 ASSOCIATION.

11:08:37 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDES THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.

11:08:40 AND WE HAVE HAD BOTH A BOARD MEETING AND A NEIGHBORHOOD

11:08:43 DISCUSSION THAT SENT ME HERE THIS EVENING.

11:08:46 WE ARE SEEKING YOUR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THIS PROJECT

11:08:47 HAS SEVERAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING

11:08:50 THOSE TO OUR OVERBURDENED SCHOOLS, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND

11:08:53 REDUCED PRIVACY.

11:08:55 THE DENSITY IS EQUAL TO ALL OF THE HOUSING THAT YOU SEE

11:08:59 WITHIN THIS BLACK CIRCLE, SO THE LOCATION OF THE STAR AND

11:09:05 THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CONSIDERABLE IMPACT.




11:09:08 NOW, THEY ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT WITH A

11:09:10 NUMBER OF WAIVERS AND EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE BASED ON

11:09:13 PREVIOUS APPROVALS AT THE SITE.

11:09:15 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISSECT THIS, BUT IN ESSENCE THEY ARE

11:09:18 SEEKING WAIVERS.

11:09:21 IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU APPROVE STAKE YOU SHOULD APPROVE

11:09:24 HOTDOGS.

11:09:25 IN 2004, WITH THE MASSIVE INCREASE IN THE OFFICE SQUARE

11:09:30 FOOTAGE FOR THE PROPOSED TWO BUILDINGS, THERE WAS

11:09:33 CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:09:36 IN 2018, THERE WAS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLANNED

11:09:40 DEVELOPMENT THAT RANDY TALKED ABOUT, THIS WAS REVISED

11:09:43 SECOND LARGER BUILDING.

11:09:44 ADDITIONAL USES OF THE BUILDING WERE ADDED AT THAT TIME.

11:09:47 AND THE IMPACTS OF SUCH A CHANGE WERE PROBABLY NOT

11:09:50 UNDERSTOOD BY THOSE THAT WERE IN THE NOTIFICATION RANGE

11:09:53 THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED HERE WHAT THE NOTIFICATION RANGE

11:09:55 IS WHICH BARELY TOUCHES THAT FIRST RESIDENTIAL BUILDING

11:09:59 THAT PLANNING POINTED OUT.

11:10:01 THE PROPOSED USE BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE FOR THAT

11:10:05 BUILDING, THAT WAS THE SAME AS WHAT'S BEEN IN THIS AREA

11:10:08 FOR 50 YEARS.

11:10:10 THAT'S ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU SEE TO THE EAST.

11:10:12 THE 2021 PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US NOW IS

11:10:15 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRIMARY USE BEING PROPOSED, AND




11:10:18 FRANKLY IT'S NOT IN LINE WITH THE AREA.

11:10:20 AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE SOME FORM OF

11:10:24 AN OFFICE ULTIMATELY.

11:10:26 AND SO WE FEEL THAT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS MEANT TO

11:10:31 ADDRESS SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ON-SITE, AND MEANT TO REDUCE

11:10:34 RISK, BECAUSE BOTH THE CITY AND DEVELOPER NOBODY WHAT

11:10:37 THEY CAN DO WITH THE SITE.

11:10:39 HERE WE HAVE GONE FROM A BUILDING PROPOSED IN 2004 TO A

11:10:42 LARGER VERSION OF THAT BUILDING PROPOSED IN 2018, AND NOW

11:10:45 WE HAVE ALTERNATE USES BEING ADDED, AND THEN IN 2021 ALL

11:10:50 OF THOSE USES ARE STILL THERE, PLUS NOW TWO DIFFERENT

11:10:52 DESIGNS BEING CONSIDERED.

11:10:54 SO I WOULD JUST PROPOSE A NINE STORY BUILDING OF

11:10:58 APARTMENTS AND ARE SEEKING APPROVAL AND DESIGN AND

11:11:00 TRANSACTION WAIVERS BASED ON THE JUSTIFICATION THAT THIS

11:11:03 USE IS LESS IMPACTFUL THAN THE 7 STORY OFFICES THAT WERE

11:11:06 ALREADY APPROVED.

11:11:07 BUT THE PROPOSAL AS THEY HAVE GOT IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW

11:11:10 THEM TO ULTIMATELY HAVE A NINE STORY OFFICE BUILDING OR A

11:11:13 NINE STORY HOTEL, OR SEVEN STORY MEDICAL BUILDING.

11:11:16 IT'S CERTAINLY CLEAR ALL OF THESE MULTIPLE DESIGNS AND

11:11:19 WAIVERS AMONGST ALL THESE POSSIBLE USES IS VERY

11:11:22 ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE DEVELOPER, IT IS NOT CLEAR AT ALL HOW

11:11:25 THIS HAS REDUCED ANY RISK TO THE VICINITY OF OUR

11:11:29 NEIGHBORHOOD.




11:11:30 ULTIMATELY, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COMMIT TO A

11:11:34 PROJECT, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THEY

11:11:37 CAN COMMIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:11:40 THE BUILDING IS WAY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE

11:11:42 NEIGHBORHOOD, THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, THAT THEY HAVE

11:11:44 THERE.

11:11:45 IT'S ALREADY PRETTY OUT OF SCALE.

11:11:47 THEY MENTIONED THESE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE

11:11:49 THAT THE SCALE IS VASTLY DIFFERENT.

11:11:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:11:53 >> IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE AN EXTRA MINUTE, PLEASE, SINCE

11:11:56 I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:11:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, GO AHEAD.

11:11:59 >> I'M NEARLY DONE.

11:12:01 THANK YOU.

11:12:02 IT'S VERY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE I

11:12:05 SAID, THE EXISTING ONE IS ALREADY THAT, BUT EVERY OTHER

11:12:08 HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IN THIS AREA IS ON A

11:12:11 PRIMARY TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, IT'S ON KENNEDY, IT'S ON

11:12:15 LOIS OR WESTSHORE.

11:12:16 THE STREETS IN THIS PROPOSED PROJECT ARE ALL CLASSIFIED

11:12:18 BY THE CITY NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

11:12:20 THOSE EXISTING PROJECTS ARE NOT AS DENSE OR AS TALL AS

11:12:23 PROPOSED PROJECT.

11:12:25 THIS IS NOT SIMILAR TO ANY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.




11:12:30 THERE ARE NO NINE STORY 138-FOOT TALL MULTIFAMILY RENTAL

11:12:34 BUILDINGS WITHIN THREE MILES OF BEACH PARK.

11:12:36 SO FRANKLY WE DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT BY THIS PLAN.

11:12:41 ULTIMATELY, WE ALSO FEEL -- IT'S CONNECTED BY STREET

11:12:48 ONLY, NOT ANY ACCESSIBILITY, IT'S LITERALLY WALLED OFF,

11:12:51 THE DESIGN ITSELF IS HIGHLIGHTING ITS UNSUITABILITY FOR

11:12:54 THE LOCATION, AND THE SPACE IS UNINHABITABLE DUE TO STORM

11:13:01 RISK.

11:13:01 YES, THIS IS ALSO A VE ZONE.

11:13:03 FRANKLY THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE.

11:13:05 FINALLY, OUR PRIMARY NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN IS TRAFFIC.

11:13:08 I MENTIONED THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

11:13:10 THIS PLAN HAS NOT PROVIDED ANYTHING TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC.

11:13:14 THE SIDEWALK AS YOU SAW ON THE LAST SLIDE IS

11:13:16 NONEXISTENCE.

11:13:17 THERE ARE NO BIKE RACKS, NO MIXED USE TO KEEP PEOPLE ON

11:13:22 SITE.

11:13:22 IF YOU ARE ALSO FAMILIAR WITH AZEELE EAST OF DALE MABRY I

11:13:26 WANT TO CALL OUT THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE WEST OF

11:13:30 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.

11:13:31 THIS IS A QUITE RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH A SOFT SOLD, NO

11:13:34 SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPE TRUCKS, OTHER SERVICES OFTEN PARK

11:13:37 HERE, SO THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC, 46 CARS AN HOUR IS

11:13:41 SIGNIFICANT.

11:13:42 IN SUMMARY, WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT IS INCONSISTENT WITH




11:13:44 THE CURRENT LAND USE.

11:13:46 THE OBJECTIVES OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND THE

11:13:49 INVESTMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:13:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

11:13:52 NEXT IS DEBRA.

11:13:54 >> HI.

11:13:57 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

11:13:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

11:13:58 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:13:59 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

11:14:00 >> DEBRA KRAEMER, 5700 MARINER, AND MY CONCERN IS WHAT

11:14:05 OTHERS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

11:14:07 SO ON MARINER STREET, IT'S A DEAD-END STREET.

11:14:11 YOU CANNOT ACCESS MY HOME FROM THE SOUTH, CANNOT ACCESS

11:14:18 MY HOME FROM THE WEST BECAUSE OF THE WATER SO REALLY THE

11:14:21 ONLY WAY IN AND OUT IS CUT THROUGH THE STREETS AZEELE OR

11:14:26 CLEVELAND WHICH IS NOT REALLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS

11:14:30 TO BE A SHORTS CUT SO THAT MEANS THE ONLY WAY I CAN

11:14:33 ACCESS MY HOME IS BY HAVER OFF OF KENNEDY.

11:14:36 SO IT'S A VERY LIMITED, AND IF WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL 300

11:14:40 UNITS AND ALL THAT TRAFFIC, SO THAT'S A LITTLE -- MY

11:14:45 LITTLE AREA TO ADD TOTALS WEST SHORE AREA AND THE

11:14:49 ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO ON THERE.

11:14:51 I AM GREATLY CONCERNED.

11:14:53 I AM CONCERNED ABOUT EVACUATIONS AND STORM TIMES, AND I




11:14:59 WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE DEVELOPER BE DELAYED AND

11:15:03 SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND FIND OUT WHAT WE

11:15:06 CAN DO AS A COMPROMISE.

11:15:11 I THINK WE WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS RATHER LATE IN THE

11:15:13 PROCESS.

11:15:14 THANK YOU.

11:15:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:15:17 NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID MCDONALD.

11:15:22 >> HELLO.

11:15:23 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

11:15:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

11:15:25 GO AHEAD.

11:15:25 >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR PUTTING UP WITH US

11:15:28 SO LATE THIS EVENING AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

11:15:31 I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.

11:15:33 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AT

11:15:36 MARINER SOUTH.

11:15:37 I REPRESENT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS WELL AS 44

11:15:40 RESIDENTS IN BE THAT CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.

11:15:43 WE ALL OWN OUR OWN CONDOMINIUM UNITS.

11:15:47 MARINER STREET IS SERVICED AS A CUL-DE-SAC WITH ONLY 32

11:15:53 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND 88 CONDOMINIUM UNITS OWNERS.

11:15:58 WE ALL OWN OUR OWN HOME.

11:16:00 WE DO NOT RENT.

11:16:02 I HAVE FOUND ERRORS AND OMISSIONS IN THE PRESENTATION BY




11:16:06 THE STAFF, NUMBER ONE WAS THE ERROR OF MORE THAN 50% OF

11:16:12 THE SITE BEING CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE

11:16:15 OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH IS INACCURATE.

11:16:18 ONLY 16,000 FEET HAD BEEN DEVELOPED.

11:16:22 THEY ARE PROPOSING 440,000 SQUARE FEET.

11:16:25 ANOTHER ERROR OR OMISSION IS ON LINE 6 WHERE THE STAFF

11:16:31 HAD FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT, IF YOU GO TO LINE 6 ON

11:16:37 PAGE 6, IT SAYS AT THE VERY LAST SENTENCE, THE PROPOSED

11:16:43 MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS OF BOTH OFFICE AND PARKING

11:16:47 STRUCTURE IN A SCALE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING

11:16:51 AREA, THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT, BUT WHAT IS OMITTED IS

11:16:56 RESIDENTIAL PROPOSAL IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING

11:17:00 AREA.

11:17:03 THE PROJECT WILL INCREASE THE HEIGHT 20%, GOING FROM 115

11:17:08 FEET, WHICH IS PROPOSED ON THE ORIGINAL BUILDING THAT WAS

11:17:13 APPROVED, 138 FEET, WHICH IS A 20% INCREASE, AND THE

11:17:18 STAFF DID NOT ADDRESS THAT IN THEIR STATEMENT.

11:17:22 THEY TOTALLY OMITTED THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT OF OCCUPANCY.

11:17:27 FURTHERMORE, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE RESIDENTS

11:17:32 AND THE NEIGHBORS OF MARINER SHARE ONE WAY IN AND OUT AS

11:17:36 A CUL-DE-SAC, AS WAS MENTIONED BY DEBRA, AND MOST OF THE

11:17:41 PEOPLE ON MARINER HAVE BEEN LOCKED DOWN FOR THE PAST YEAR

11:17:46 AS THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS MANDATED THE COVID RESTRICTIONS

11:17:51 PUT IN PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

11:17:53 TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE THIS PAST YEAR ARE NOT VALID, AND




11:17:57 THEY DO NOT REPRESENT WHAT HAS BECOME IN THE FUTURE WITH

11:18:00 THE ADDITION OF 292 APARTMENTS THAT WILL BE TENANTS THAT

11:18:07 ARE RENTING, AND THEY WILL BRING AT LEAST 500 CARS TO THE

11:18:12 AREA ON A NIGHTLY USE, NOT DURING DAYTIME DRIVING, BUT

11:18:16 OVERNIGHT, AND THEY WILL BE IMPACTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:18:20 WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN OVER MY TIME AND

11:18:23 APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

11:18:25 THANK YOU.

11:18:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:18:27 AND JAMES, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER, SIR.

11:18:31 >> CRIMES CREED: (NO AUDIO).

11:18:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SEE YOU BUT YOU ARE MUTED.

11:18:46 >> THANK YOU.

11:18:49 MY NAME IS JAMES CREED, 5701 MARINER STREET, 703.

11:18:55 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

11:18:59 I AM REPRESENTING 44 HOMEOWNERS THERE, AND --

11:19:12 FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS 2004 ABOUT THE TRAFFIC

11:19:17 CONCERNS IN AND AROUND CENTER DRIVE BECAUSE OF DAY ONE OF

11:19:23 THIS DEVELOPMENT.

11:19:23 IN FACT MR. DINGFELDER SPOKE ELOQUENTLY AT THAT TIME

11:19:26 ABOUT THE ISSUES AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND COUNCILMAN

11:19:31 DINGFELDER MADE SOME PRETTY GOOD PREDICTIONS WHICH WERE

11:19:35 NOT FOLLOWED UP ON.

11:19:37 WE ARE NOW HERE 17 YEARS LATER AND TO THE BEST OF MY

11:19:42 KNOWLEDGE NONE OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY RESIDENTS




11:19:46 THEN HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO DATE.

11:19:48 THIS BEACH PARK AND ADJACENT AREAS SHOULD BE DEFERRED AND

11:19:54 COULD BE DEFERRED UNTIL THE ISSUES ARE ADEQUATELY

11:19:57 ADDRESSED.

11:20:00 THIS ALSO BORDERS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HAS A

11:20:03 SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

11:20:08 WE MET REQUEST THE DEVELOPER LAST WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME

11:20:11 AND BASICALLY SAID, WELL, IT COULD BE WORSE, AND THAT'S

11:20:15 NOT THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT TAINT.

11:20:18 HOWEVER, I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT 80% OF A BAD I DEDUCE

11:20:22 NOT MAKE AT GOOD IDEA.

11:20:24 THE 292 APARTMENTS IN THIS PROJECT, THE FACT THAT IT'S

11:20:28 THREE AND A HALF TIMES THE SIZE OF THE EXISTING MARINER

11:20:32 NORTH AND SOUTH BUILDINGS COMBINED, AND NOT CONSISTENT

11:20:36 WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT DENSITY OF THIS

11:20:38 NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:20:40 BECAUSE THE PROJECT -- MUCH OF THE EAST AND SOUTHBOUND

11:20:46 TRAFFIC WILL BE TRAVELING STREETS LIKE MARINER, CLEVELAND

11:20:50 AND AZEELE PUTTING MORE TRAFFIC ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

11:20:53 AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE.

11:20:55 RESIDENTS ON THESE STREETS HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH

11:20:57 REPRESENTATIVES FOR YEARS NOW TRYING TO GET THESE ISSUES

11:21:00 ADDRESSED.

11:21:02 I RECEIVED LETTERS SUBMITTED BY GRAY ON CLEVELAND STREET

11:21:08 WHO SPEAKS ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THE CONDITIONS ON HER STREET.




11:21:11 IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, YOU SHOULD BEFORE YOU VOTE.

11:21:13 THIS PROJECT IS NOT IN LINE IN THE PROPER AREA.

11:21:18 THIS DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE WESTSHORE.

11:21:22 IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY MIXED USE FEATURES DESIGNED TORE

11:21:27 TRAFFIC OR AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS, IT IS NOT IN LINE

11:21:30 WITH THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE OVERLAY.

11:21:32 FURTHER, IN CONTRAST OBJECTIVE 1.5 AND THERE ARE NO PLANS

11:21:38 TO PROTECT THE DIRECT ACCESS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE

11:21:42 PROJECT, AND OBJECTIVE 896 AND 897.

11:21:48 SO WILLINGLY PARTNERED WITH THE DEVELOPERS IN A

11:21:51 COLLABORATIVE NATURE.

11:21:53 HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPER LATER WAITED TILL THE LAST MOMENT

11:21:56 TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NO REAL CHANGES WERE

11:21:59 POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THE PROJECT WAS ALREADY WELL ALONG.

11:22:03 IT IS NOT THE DEVELOPER'S RATE TO USE THE LAND IN AN

11:22:07 APPROPRIATE MANNER AND ECONOMIC INCENTIVE TO DO SO

11:22:09 QUICKLY.

11:22:10 YET THIS STRUCTURE WILL BE THERE FOR DECADES TO COME AND

11:22:13 IT'S CRITICAL WE GET IT RIGHT.

11:22:15 WE REALLY HAVE TO WAIT AOL 17 YEARS BEFORE THESE ISSUES

11:22:18 CAN BE ADDRESSED?

11:22:19 WHAT W THAT I YIELD MY TIME.

11:22:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:22:24 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN DINGFELDER.

11:22:29 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.




11:22:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:22:35 THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WHO STAYED UP SO LATE TO GIVE US

11:22:40 YOUR INPUT.

11:22:41 I HAVE GOT A QUESTION, ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS.

11:22:45 JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE 2004

11:22:50 RECORDS, I DID VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THE 2004 REZONING?

11:22:53 DO YOU REMEMBER?

11:22:54 >> JAMES CREED: THE BUILDING IS THERE, SIR.

11:23:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEAN DID I VOTE PERSONALLY FOR IT?

11:23:03 >> I BELIEVE YOU DID.

11:23:06 YOU YOURSELF CALLED FOR A VARIETY OF TRAFFIC ISSUES TO BE

11:23:10 ADDRESSED.

11:23:11 MY POINT IS, A LOT OF ASSURANCES THAT I WOULD BE MAKING

11:23:16 TONIGHT AND A LIKELIHOOD -- THAT IS CERTAINLY THE PATTERN

11:23:21 FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS.

11:23:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SURE MARGARET VIZZI HAD SOME

11:23:28 INFLUENCE ON THAT PARTICULAR EVENING.

11:23:29 SO MY OTHER QUESTION COMES BACK TO STAFF.

11:23:36 DO WE STILL HAVE STAFF ON BOARD?

11:23:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:23:39 MANASSE IS ON THE LINE.

11:23:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T SEE YOU --

11:23:44 THERE YOU ARE.

11:23:46 SO RYAN, LET'S RUN THROUGH THESE NUMBERS AGAIN, JUST FOR

11:23:50 CLARIFICATION.




11:23:52 THE 2018 APPROVAL, WHICH BY THE WAY MR. CREED AND MR.

11:23:58 MCDONALD, ET CETERA, I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL IN 2018, THE

11:24:02 2018 APPROVAL WAS INCLUDED HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS

11:24:12 A POSSIBILITY ON THE EXISTING ZONING THAT'S THERE TODAY?

11:24:18 >> I WAS TRYING TO LOOK FOR IT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

11:24:26 IT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I WAS TRYING TO DO THE

11:24:29 CALCULATION.

11:24:31 546.

11:24:32 SO --

11:24:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT ON THAT?

11:24:36 STAFF?

11:24:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: DID YOU WANT THE DWELLING COUNTS?

11:24:43 IS THAT WHERE WE ARE --

11:24:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:24:45 I ASSUME THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

11:24:47 546 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

11:24:50 >>RYAN MANASSE: IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING?

11:24:56 I'M ASKING, DO YOU WANT THE CALCULATION I DID PREVIOUSLY?

11:24:59 OKAY.

11:24:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

11:25:02 SO HERE IS MY PROBLEM.

11:25:05 THE FIVE OF YOU THAT WERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO STAY UP THIS

11:25:08 LATE.

11:25:09 THEY HAVE AN EXISTING RATE TO PULL A PERMIT TODAY FOR 546

11:25:16 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.




11:25:20 NOW, I AM NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT UPSETTING TO YOU.

11:25:24 IT MUST BE UPSETTING TO YOU.

11:25:25 I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN 2018.

11:25:27 I DON'T KNOW WHO PARTICIPATED OR WHO DIDN'T PARTICIPATE.

11:25:30 BUT AS A MATTER OF LEGAL RIGHT, AND MS. WELLS OTHER

11:25:34 SCREEN HERE WILL TELL YOU THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS

11:25:38 THEY CAN BUILD THOSE 546 UNITS TODAY.

11:25:41 IN CONTRAST, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT 292 UNITS.

11:25:47 OKAY?

11:25:48 SO I'M NOT -- IT'S NOT A PERFECT WORLD BUT I AM A LITTLE

11:25:55 BIT TORN BECAUSE IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND

11:25:57 THINGS LIKE THAT, TO ME, I WOULD RATHER HAVE 2992 UNITS.

11:26:03 AND I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT STREET BECAUSE AS MANY

11:26:06 OF YOU KNOW MY DAD LIVED IN MARINER FOR PROBABLY TEN

11:26:11 YEARS, DAVID.

11:26:12 SO ANYWAY, THAT'S A PART.

11:26:18 AND I AM NOT ASKING FOR ANY OF YOU TO SPEAK ON IT.

11:26:21 BUT THIS IS WHAT I AM TORN UP ABOUT, BECAUSE I AM NOT

11:26:24 SAYING IT TONIGHT STOP RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT TRAIN LEFT

11:26:30 THE STATION TWO, THREE YEARS AGO IN 2018.

11:26:34 AND I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT'S A DONE DEAL NOW. IS THERE A

11:26:41 POSSIBILITY THAT THIS DEVELOPER COULD WORK WITH YOU

11:26:43 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND COME UP WITH SOME

11:26:46 POSSIBLE MITIGATION, PERHAPS FUNDING SOME ADDITIONAL

11:26:51 SPEED BUMPS, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND




11:26:54 ADDRESSING SOME OF THAT?

11:26:56 I THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY REASONABLE, AND FRANKLY I AM

11:27:00 GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A DELAY, AN EXTRA DELAY

11:27:04 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, USUALLY WE HAVE TWO

11:27:06 WEEKS, BUT I AM GOING TO SUGGEST SIX WEEKS.

11:27:10 THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS.

11:27:13 I THINK AN ADDITIONAL MONTH FOR EVERYBODY TO WORK WITH

11:27:16 MR. MECHANIK AND WITH MR. COEN TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO

11:27:20 MAKE THIS A BETTER PROJECT, AND I AGREE, TIM, YOU TALKED

11:27:25 ABOUT MAKING IT MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, AND WITH THE

11:27:29 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

11:27:32 BUT WHEN IT COMES TO RAW NUMBERS, AGAIN, OVER THERE AT

11:27:37 THE MARINER, I WOULD RATHER HAVE 292 THAN 546.

11:27:41 SO THAT'S JUST ONE COUNCILMAN'S OPINION.

11:27:46 WE ARE NOT SET UP TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL DISCOURSE ON

11:27:49 THIS, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

11:27:51 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:27:55 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

11:27:57 MR. MASSEY, YES, SIR MANASSE?

11:28:03 RAIN RAN I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE MYSELF AND LEGAL

11:28:06 STAFF REQUEST ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WHAT CAN BE INCLUDED

11:28:08 IF THERE WAS THIS MOTION FOR AN EXTENDED SECOND READING.

11:28:12 YOU KNOW, AS THE REZONING, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE

11:28:15 PROPERTY, AND CATE, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, I DON'T




11:28:18 THINK ANYTHING WITH SPEED BUMPS OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY

11:28:21 BOUNDARY WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ADDING TO THIS REZONING

11:28:23 REQUEST.

11:28:24 I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY.

11:28:25 I AM TRYING TO MAKE IT ENFORCEABLE FOR THIS PD.

11:28:29 >>CATE WELLS: I AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT WITH REGARDS TO

11:28:35 ANY SUGGESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR MITIGATION.

11:28:41 THAT ISSUE WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR ON-SITE.

11:28:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST THAT WHEN

11:28:50 IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION, SOMETIMES THESE PROJECTS --

11:28:54 WE JUST HAD ONE ON RATTLESNAKE.

11:28:59 THEY SPEAK TO OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

11:29:01 WE HAD ANOTHER ONE UP THERE BY KENNEDY BY UT.

11:29:04 THE CONDITIONS SPEAK TO OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

11:29:07 AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FUNDING THROUGH THE

11:29:09 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

11:29:10 I AM TALKING ABOUT FUNDING ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS

11:29:14 THROUGH THE CITY THAT MIGHT HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE

11:29:18 IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT.

11:29:20 AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING IT'S 100% REQUIRED, BUT I

11:29:26 AM SAYING THAT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN

11:29:31 YOU ARE BUILDING, ALMOST 300 UNITS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

11:29:37 A MULTI, MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND SOME ADDITIONAL

11:29:40 MITIGATION OFFERED THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD,

11:29:42 MR. MECHANIK, MIGHT BE A NICE AND APPROPRIATE THING.




11:29:48 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE AND FIX EVERY PROBLEM, MR.

11:29:52 COEN, BUT I THINK SOME DIALOGUE IN THAT REGARD MIGHT BE

11:29:56 APPROPRIATE, AND ADDING AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION OR TWO

11:30:00 ALONG THOSE LINES DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A HUGE DEAL.

11:30:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, I SAW YOUR HAND

11:30:07 UP.

11:30:08 THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. COEN.

11:30:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO INQUIRE WITH BE THE

11:30:13 APPLICANT INCLUDING THE DELAYED SECOND READING.

11:30:17 I THAT WAS ALL.

11:30:20 THANK YOU, SIR.

11:30:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COEN THEN MR. MECHANIK.

11:30:24 WELL, GO TO REBUTTAL UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

11:30:27 FROM COUNCIL.

11:30:28 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD A QUESTION OUT-OF-THEIR REBUTTAL.

11:30:36 >> RANDY COEN: MAY I ANSWER?

11:30:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:30:41 THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE WESTSHORE DRI.

11:30:44 THE WESTSHORE DRI REQUIRES EACH DEVELOPMENT TO CONTRIBUTE

11:30:51 MONEY TOWARDS THE TRANSPORTATION THAT IS ACTUALLY

11:30:53 CONTROLLED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WESTSHORE.

11:30:55 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE

11:30:58 RIGHT AT $85,900.

11:31:02 SO THIS DEVELOPER WILL BE CONSIDERABLY PROVIDING FUNDS

11:31:06 FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.




11:31:08 THAT'S HOW ALL OF THE SPEED TABLES ARE BASICALLY BEEN

11:31:12 CONSTRUCTED IN BEACH PARK AMONG OTHER THINGS.

11:31:15 AND I WILL SAY THAT IN 2018, SINCE WE INCREASED THE SIZE

11:31:20 OF THAT SECOND OFFICE BUILDING, THERE WAS A FULL

11:31:22 TRANSPORTATION STUDY THAT WAS DONE, REVIEWED AND APPROVED

11:31:25 AS A PART OF THE 2018 REZONING.

11:31:29 THIS DEVELOPER WILL BE PAYING AND HAS PAVED INTO THE

11:31:34 NEIGHBORHOOD TRUST FUND, SECOND BUILDING WILL PAY INTO

11:31:36 THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRUST FUND -- TRANSPORTATION, EXCUSE ME,

11:31:41 NOT TRUST FUND.

11:31:42 AND THAT AMOUNT IS ALMOST $86,000.

11:31:45 THANK YOU.

11:31:48 >>DAVID MECHANIK: AND TO FURTHER ANSWER THAT QUESTION,

11:31:52 THIS PROJECT WOULD BE PAYING APPROXIMATELY $300,000 IN

11:31:58 MULTIMODAL FEES, WHICH THE EXPENSE OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE

11:32:05 SOLELY WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY, NOT THIS

11:32:09 APPLICANT, SO THAT'S A CONSIDERABLE SUM OF MONEY THAT

11:32:14 COULD BE USED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD

11:32:19 CONCERNS.

11:32:21 I BELIEVE THAT MR. KENNY GRAPH OF CRESCENT RESOURCES

11:32:29 WANTED TO RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONS, IF WE COULD DO

11:32:32 THAT, IF HE CAN -- I THINK HE'S REGISTERED.

11:32:36 I'M HOPING HE CAN HOOK IN HERE.

11:32:40 >> I SEE HE WAS NOT SWORN IN.

11:32:45 WE HAVE TO SWEAR HIM IN.




11:32:46 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, TIM.

11:32:50 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE

11:32:53 TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

11:32:56 >> I DO.

11:32:56 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

11:32:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

11:33:00 >> TIM GRAFF WHAT'S THE QUESTION?

11:33:11 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YOU TEXTED ME.

11:33:13 >> I COULDN'T FIND OUT THE CAMERA THING.

11:33:15 THERE IT IS.

11:33:17 I WAS HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY IN CASE I NEEDED TO

11:33:20 SPEAK.

11:33:21 I'M SORRY.

11:33:23 >>DAVID MECHANIK: WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, I MEAN,

11:33:27 I THINK WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THE

11:33:32 NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:33:33 HOWEVER, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD

11:33:37 IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD

11:33:42 ASSIST WITH THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE ZONING

11:33:45 APPROVAL.

11:33:48 THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT SOMETHING OVER THE CANAL IN

11:33:51 FRONT OF OUR BUILDING, AND WE AGREED TO ASSIST THEM IN

11:33:57 GETTING APPROPRIATE ACTION TAKEN BY THE D.O.T. AND

11:34:02 EVENTUALLY THE CITY, AND THAT CAN'T BE A CONDITION OF THE

11:34:06 ZONING, BUT WE WERE WILLING TO DO THAT.




11:34:09 SIMILARLY, THERE WAS A PROPERTY ALONG THE SEAWALL IN

11:34:14 FRONT, THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY IS NOT OWNED BY

11:34:18 HIGHWOOD, BUT WE OFFERED TO ASSIST THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN

11:34:24 ACTIVATING THAT AREA TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC RECREATIONAL

11:34:30 SPACE, AND SO WE OFFERED TO DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, SO,

11:34:35 MR. DINGFELDER, I THINK WE WERE WORKING IN THE DIRECTION

11:34:38 THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING NOW.

11:34:49 MR. CHAIRMAN, SHOULD I ADDRESS -- SPEAK TO THE -- ORIGIN

11:34:56 THE REBUTTAL AT THIS POINT?

11:34:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

11:34:59 COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?

11:35:00 IF NOT WE GO TO REBUTTAL.

11:35:02 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:35:05 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES.

11:35:06 I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE POINTS HAVE CERTAINLY ALREADY BEEN

11:35:08 COVERED.

11:35:09 WE ARE PROPOSING A REDUCTION OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS, SO

11:35:14 WHATEVER TRAFFIC CONCERNS ARE BEING RAISED ARE GOING TO

11:35:18 BE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED, IF THIS PROPOSAL IS APPROVED.

11:35:28 SCHOOL CAPACITY IS AN ISSUE WHICH IS ADDRESSED AT THE

11:35:32 BUILDING PERMIT STAGE, AT THE CONCURRENCY ISSUE. IF

11:35:39 THERE IS NO SCHOOL CAPACITY WE WILL NOT GET A BUILDING

11:35:43 PERMIT.

11:35:43 I THINK THERE IS FULL CAPACITY BUT THAT'S A SELF POLICING

11:35:47 KIND OF ISSUE.




11:35:52 IF THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING IS SELF-EVIDENT, THERE ARE

11:35:55 TWO, IF YOU WILL, MID RISE 8-STORY CONDOMINIUMS

11:35:59 IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND

11:36:04 IT'S TOTALLY IN SCALE, AS MR. MANASSE REPORTED IN HIS

11:36:09 STAFF REPORT.

11:36:11 MR. COEN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO MY REBUTTAL

11:36:15 THERE?

11:36:15 >> RANDY COEN: JUST A FEW THINGS, IF I MAY.

11:36:19 AGAIN, TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE

11:36:22 2018 REZONING.

11:36:23 THERE'S NO NEED TO REDO THE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THIS POINT

11:36:26 BECAUSE OPTION 2 IS ACTUALLY REDUCING TRAFFIC FOR THE

11:36:29 SECOND BUILDING BY 48%.

11:36:32 IT'S REDUCING THE TOTAL OF THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF

11:36:35 RESIDENTIAL UNITS BY 47%.

11:36:38 THE PROJECT IS MIXED USE.

11:36:41 WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND WE HAVE OFFICE.

11:36:43 THAT'S TWO OF THE LEGS OF THE THREE LEGGED STOOL OF MIXED

11:36:46 USE.

11:36:47 EMPLOYMENT AND RESIDENTIAL.

11:36:49 THE THIRD IS RETAIL.

11:36:51 WE ARE A SUBSTANTIAL MIXED USE PROJECT, 40% ONE USE, 60

11:36:59 PERCENT THE OTHER USE.

11:37:00 IMPACT FEES, ABILITY FEES, THOSE ARE $325,000.

11:37:04 I CALCULATED THEM.




11:37:05 THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSPORTATION FEE, WHICH IS UNDER THE

11:37:08 CONTROL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE CITY

11:37:12 OF TAMPA WILL BE $85,900.

11:37:17 A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS

11:37:20 THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CALM TRAFFIC,

11:37:24 TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC, TO REDIRECT TRAFFIC TO KENNEDY

11:37:27 BOULEVARD AND THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS HAVE BEEN PAID OUT OF

11:37:32 THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD FUND THAT WAS SET UP WHEN

11:37:34 THE DRI WAS APPROVED IN THE 1980s.

11:37:37 IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND IT'S

11:37:40 PROVED VERY EFFECTIVE TO BE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE

11:37:42 NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:37:45 THIS PROJECT WILL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

11:37:46 IT'S CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD

11:37:49 NEIGHBOR.

11:37:50 IT HAS PROVIDED SUBSTANTIAL FUNDS TO THE PAST FOR THE

11:37:54 NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION NEIGHBORHOOD FEES

11:37:56 THAT ARE CHARGED OUT OF THE DRI.

11:37:58 AND I WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU, DAVE.

11:38:01 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO

11:38:03 ADD.

11:38:04 WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

11:38:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:38:07 ANYTHING ELSE?

11:38:08 A MOTION TO CLOSE?




11:38:11 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:38:13 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:38:14 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:38:15 ALL RIGHT.

11:38:16 ANY OPPOSED?

11:38:18 ALL RIGHT.

11:38:19 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

11:38:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION?

11:38:26 I SEE COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS HIS HAND UP.

11:38:28 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:38:33 YOU ARE MUTED.

11:38:34 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.

11:38:39 THANK YOU, SIR.

11:38:41 WE ARE ON NUMBER 8 HERE.

11:38:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:38:46 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL READ THAT IF I MAY.

11:38:48 I READ AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

11:38:51 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

11:38:54 GENERAL VICINITY MUCH 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE IN THE CITY

11:38:57 OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

11:38:59 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED

11:39:04 DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL,

11:39:07 HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED

11:39:11 DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL,

11:39:14 HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE




11:39:15 DATE, AND LET ME -- OH, DEAR LORD, I HAVE TO FIND THE

11:39:23 SUPPORT SHEET HERE.

11:39:24 I'M SORRY.

11:39:25 I USUALLY HAVE THESE PRINTED OUT IN FRONT OF ME.

11:39:27 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I MAY, PLEASE ADD THE REVISED

11:39:50 REVISION SHEET.

11:39:51 >>LUIS VIERA: WITH THE REVISED REVISION SHEET, THANK

11:39:53 YOU.

11:39:57 DEER LORD.

11:39:58 SORRY.

11:39:59 THIS IS WHY I HATE APPEARING VIRTUALLY.

11:40:07 OKAY, I WILL GET IT.

11:40:08 APPLICANT HAS MET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF THAT THE

11:40:12 DEVELOPMENT AND CONDITION OF THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT

11:40:14 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE, AND ALSO ADOPT

11:40:19 THE FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, CITY

11:40:23 STAFF REPORTS.

11:40:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

11:40:26 VIERA.

11:40:26 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

11:40:27 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:40:29 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:40:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

11:40:33 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:40:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.




11:40:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:40:47 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:40:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.

11:40:55 >>THE CLERK: MOTION DID NOT CARRY WITH CITRO,

11:40:59 DINGFELDER, AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO, AND MIRANDA BEING

11:41:03 ABSENT AT VOTE.

11:41:11 >>DAVID MECHANIK: COULD WE ASK TO BE HEARD BEFORE A FULL

11:41:12 COUNCIL?

11:41:13 I DIDN'T REALIZE MR. MIRANDA WAS NOT PRESENT.

11:41:18 >>LUIS VIERA: DO HAVE WE KNOW WHERE HE IS?

11:41:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, HE'S ALREADY GONE HOME.

11:41:29 MR. SHELBY, SINCE IT'S A SPLIT 3-3 VOTE, AND WE HAVE ONE

11:41:33 COUNCILMEMBER MISSING, WHEN WOULD WE SCHEDULE THIS FOR A

11:41:36 FULL COUNCIL HEARING?

11:41:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON A 3-3 VOTE YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING

11:41:44 WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT -- IF A MOTION IN A

11:42:00 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER FAILS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST FOUR

11:42:02 VOTES THE MOTION FAILS, AND IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS

11:42:07 NOT MADE THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL AUTOMATICALLY OPENED TO

11:42:12 A TIME CERTAIN AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL

11:42:14 MEETING.

11:42:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE THURSDAY COMING UP?

11:42:23 >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER WAS SUGGESTING

11:42:25 MAYBE AN AMENDED MOTION, IF YOU MADE THAT AMENDMENT.

11:42:29 I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT BUT IF WE MADE




11:42:32 THAT AMENDMENT WOULD YOU VOTE FOR IT SO THERE WOULD BE

11:42:34 TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPER?

11:42:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU STATED IT AT THE

11:42:46 BEGINNING OF THE HEARING.

11:42:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WAITING INFORM MR. MECHANIK TO

11:42:51 PROPOSE DELAY AND SOME MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE IN TERMS OF

11:42:58 ADDITIONAL MITIGATION TO THE COMMUNITY, AND POSSIBLE

11:43:04 ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE

11:43:08 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF SITE PLAN

11:43:11 AND THE AESTHETICS OF HOW THE SITE PLAN RELATED TO THE

11:43:15 COMMUNITY, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT.

11:43:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY?

11:43:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN REOPEN THE HEARING, PLEASE.

11:43:22 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVED, VIERA.

11:43:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:43:26 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:43:28 ALL RIGHT.

11:43:32 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I WILL CERTAINLY -- DAVID MECHANIK FOR

11:43:34 THE RECORD.

11:43:35 I WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THAT REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW

11:43:38 FOR ADDITIONAL DIALOGUE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:43:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN DO WE WANT TO COME BACK WITH

11:43:46 THIS SECOND READING?

11:43:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD BE FIRST READING.

11:43:49 IT WOULD BE -- EXCUSE ME, MARTIN SHELBY FOR THE RECORD.




11:43:54 IT WOULD BE TO ALLOW MR. MIRANDA TO REVIEW THE FILE AND

11:43:57 TO BE PREPARED TO VOTE TO BE ABLE TO ASK ANY

11:44:01 ADDITIONAL -- I'M SORRY?

11:44:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT,

11:44:05 MR. SHELBY.

11:44:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY MEETING

11:44:08 WITH THE -- THE PETITIONER MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

11:44:13 IF YOU COULD JUST RESTATE IT.

11:44:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE WAS A QUESTION TO ME, AND I

11:44:18 THINK MR. CARLSON'S INSINUATION WAS, COULD I SUPPORT A

11:44:23 MOTION, A MOTION FOR FIRST READING THIS EVENING, AND I

11:44:27 SAID, AND MY ANSWER IS YES, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE

11:44:32 CONTINGENT UPON A SECOND READING BEING DELAYED, BEING

11:44:35 DEFERRED SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS TO GIVE MR. MECHANIK AND HIS

11:44:39 TEAM PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THESE FOLKS AND

11:44:44 SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO, YOU KNOW.

11:44:45 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO, BUT SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.

11:44:49 AND WITH THAT I WILL SUPPORT THAT MOTION.

11:44:53 IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MOTION.

11:44:59 LUIS' MOTION WAS A LITTLE WEAK.

11:45:01 >> SO COME BACK AT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, CORRECT?

11:45:09 MECHANIC.

11:45:10 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WOULD BE MR. MECHANIK LIKE TO DO?

11:45:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COME BACK FOR SECOND READING.

11:45:16 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. MECHANIK, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?




11:45:20 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER DATE --

11:45:23 >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A CONTINUATION OR

11:45:25 FIRST READING?

11:45:28 >>DAVID MECHANIK: HAVE FIRST READING, IF I HAVE AN OPTION

11:45:30 ON THAT, YES, SIR.

11:45:31 >>BILL CARLSON: AND SORRY, MS. WELLS, BUT I THINK THE

11:45:36 IMPLICATION AND THE DISCUSSION THAT MR. DINGFELDER HAD

11:45:38 EARLIER WOULD BE THAT WHETHER WE STATED IT APPROPRIATELY

11:45:42 OR NOT THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME CONVERSATION BETWEEN

11:45:44 FIRST AND SECOND READING.

11:45:46 SO I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

11:45:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION FOR THE BOARD.

11:45:53 MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY.

11:45:58 THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WOULD CHANGE BETWEEN FIRST AND

11:46:04 SECOND READING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR COUNCIL TO ADD

11:46:13 ADDITIONAL COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO THE RECORD?

11:46:18 I GUESS MY POINT IS THIS, THAT I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE

11:46:22 WOULD BE, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT RESOLVED

11:46:27 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND VOTE TO VOTES ARE

11:46:33 CHANGED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A LEGAL BASIS FOR

11:46:36 THAT CHANGE OF VOTES.

11:46:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING I THINK GOES BACK

11:46:43 TO THE FIRST PORTION OF IT.

11:46:44 IN THAT CASE, I GUESS WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONTINUANCE, TO

11:46:53 LOOK AT THE OPTIONS THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE THAT MR.




11:46:57 DINGFELDER WAS TALKING ABOUT.

11:46:58 THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, IT WOULD GO TO

11:47:03 THE HEARING.

11:47:04 WHAT WOULD CHANGE?

11:47:07 WE WILL GO WITH THESE DISCUSSIONS AGAIN.

11:47:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND BY THE WAY, IF A CHANGE IS AGREED

11:47:12 UPON BY THE PETITIONER MATE REQUIRE GOING BACK TO FIRST

11:47:15 READING DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT CHANGE IS.

11:47:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.

11:47:21 I THINK THE SAFEST ROUTE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME THE SAFEST

11:47:28 ROUTE IS TO GET THE CONTINUANCE SO THOSE OPTIONS CAN BE

11:47:32 DISCUSSED AND THEN WE COME BACK FIRST READING VERSUS

11:47:34 GOING INTO THAT OTHER SEGUE, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T HEARD

11:47:38 BACK.

11:47:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW MIND YOU, MR. MECHANIK'S POSITION

11:47:42 RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE RULES AS THEY ARE STATED, IS HE

11:47:45 CAN HAVE IT HEARD AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK UNDER THESE

11:47:48 RECALLS.

11:47:49 NOW, IF HE'S WILLING TO AGREE TO A CONTINUANCE, TO

11:47:53 ADDRESS SOME COUNCIL'S CONCERNS, THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO

11:47:56 TAKE SOME EXTRA TIME, THAT'S HIS PREROGATIVE, IF HE

11:47:58 WISHES.

11:48:01 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS JUST IF WE

11:48:04 REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE.

11:48:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.




11:48:07 AND CAN BE DONE DURING A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OR DOES

11:48:10 IT HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED DURING AN EVENING MEETING?

11:48:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED FOR AN

11:48:15 EVENING MEETING.

11:48:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES OR DOES NOT?

11:48:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES NOT.

11:48:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S SCHEDULE IT DURING A REGULAR

11:48:22 COUNSELING MEETING AND GET THAT 4 TO 6-WEEK PERIOD THAT

11:48:24 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SUGGESTED, AND I SEE MARCH

11:48:27 18th.

11:48:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY WE INQUIRE WITH PETITIONER AS TO

11:48:31 HIS POSITION ON THAT?

11:48:33 >>DAVID MECHANIK: WE WOULD AGREE TO THAT DATE.

11:48:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

11:48:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:48:37 SO SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION.

11:48:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:48:44 MR. SHELBY, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE PRIOR VOTE WE JUST

11:48:49 MADE?

11:48:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PRIOR VOTE FAILED ON A 3-3.

11:48:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT PER OUR RULES IT

11:48:56 SAYS YOU HAVE TO COME BACK WHEN THERE'S A FULL BOARD, DO

11:48:59 THEY NOT?

11:49:00 SO DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE VOTE WE MADE PRAYER?

11:49:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.




11:49:05 THE VOTE FAILS ON A 3-3.

11:49:08 NOW, WITH THE REQUEST FOR A FULL BOARD, WHICH IS WHAT

11:49:11 YOUR RULES WOULD REQUIRE, MR. MIRANDA MUST BE PREPARED TO

11:49:15 THEN REVIEW THE RECORD SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE

11:49:18 OTHERWISE, HE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER TO BE

11:49:22 ABLE TO BE IN EFFECT THE DECIDING VOTE.

11:49:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY.

11:49:36 WHEN YOU READ THE RULE A MINUTE AGO, I THOUGHT WHAT IT

11:49:38 SAID, I THOUGHT WHAT YOU SAID WAS, UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER

11:49:42 MOTION.

11:49:42 AND I JUST HEARD MR. VIERA TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION TO

11:49:47 CONTINUE.

11:49:48 SO IF THERE IS A MOTION, THEN IT TAKES AWAY THAT 3-3

11:49:55 MIRANDA TYPE BREAKER ISSUE BECAUSE NOW THERE'S T MOTION

11:49:58 FAILS 3-3.

11:50:00 NOW THERE'S A NEW MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

11:50:01 THE NEW MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS CONTINUED.

11:50:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS, THE

11:50:07 QUESTION IS, A NEW MOTION ENTIRELY IN ORDER TO ALLOW A

11:50:14 FULL COUNCIL.

11:50:16 WHAT YOU ARE ASKING --

11:50:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT WHAT THE MOTION IS.

11:50:20 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THE MOTION FAILED.

11:50:24 THERE WAS NOT A MOTION TO DENY THAT WAS TAKEN.

11:50:26 THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS MATTER BE




11:50:30 CONTINUED.

11:50:31 I HAVE MADE THAT MOTION.

11:50:32 I THINK WE OUGHT TO VOTE ON THE MOTION.

11:50:35 IT IS THE APPLICANT'S WISH FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED.

11:50:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.

11:50:39 AND WAS THEREBY A SECOND?

11:50:42 YOU ARE CORRECTED, SIR.

11:50:43 WAS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?

11:50:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

11:50:47 VIERA.

11:50:48 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:50:50 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:50:53 ANY OPPOSED?

11:50:55 ALL RIGHT.

11:50:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN THE DATE AND TIME FOR THAT

11:51:00 PLEASE.

11:51:00 >> THAT'S GOING TO BE A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WHICH

11:51:03 WILL BE MARCH 18th.

11:51:06 DO WE HAVE IT SET DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS, 9:30?

11:51:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD SUGGEST 10:00 30.

11:51:14 FOR WHAT DATE AGAIN, SIR?

11:51:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 18th, A REGULAR COUNCIL

11:51:18 MEETING AT 10:30 A.M.

11:51:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU GET THAT, MR. MECHANIK?

11:51:25 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR.




11:51:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:51:28 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

11:51:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 9.

11:51:31 MR. MANASSE.

11:51:32 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER IT IS FILE REZ 20-104 FOR

11:51:37 THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3110 EAST LAKE AVENUE AND THE

11:51:40 REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO REZONE FROM RS 350 RESIDENTIAL

11:51:43 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR INDEPENDENT

11:51:48 LIVING FACILITY.

11:51:49 I WILL DEFER TO JENNIFER MALONE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION

11:51:51 AND THEN IF YOU WILL PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

11:51:53 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

11:52:01 IF THE COMMISSION WOULD SHARE MY SCREEN.

11:52:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

11:52:12 GO AHEAD.

11:52:17 THAT'S NOT THE CORRECT ONE.

11:52:29 ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

11:52:30 >>JENNIFER MALONE: OKAY.

11:52:32 20-104, CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, IT IS IN THE

11:52:37 EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.

11:52:39 IT IS A VERY NARROW SITE OFF OF EAST LAKE AVENUE, TO THE

11:52:43 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, TO

11:52:46 THE WEST IS A CHURCH, THERE'S ANOTHER CHURCH SOUTH OF THE

11:52:49 SUBJECT SITE, FURTHER EAST THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN

11:52:52 TRANSITIONS TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, BUT THERE'S




11:52:55 MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF

11:52:58 THE SUBJECT SITE.

11:52:59 SO THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE

11:53:02 DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL 20.

11:53:04 TOTAL EAST ON THE DARKER ROUTE IS RESIDENTIAL 35.

11:53:07 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION ALLOWS UP TO 20 DWELLING

11:53:11 UNITS.

11:53:12 THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH ONE

11:53:15 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AT A DENSITY OF 2. IT 47 UNITS PER

11:53:19 ACRE WHICH IS VERY UNDERUTILIZED, ACCORDING TOTAL LAND

11:53:23 USE DESIGNATION.

11:53:24 THE APPLICANT UNDER THIS REQUEST IS PROPOSING FIVE

11:53:27 DWELLING UNITS, 14 UNITS PER ACRE, VERY CONSISTENT WITH

11:53:31 THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THAT

11:53:37 IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION SO IT

11:53:40 WOULD BE UTILIZING UNDERUTILIZED LAND PROVIDING HOUSING

11:53:45 FOR TAMPA'S POPULATION, ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE

11:53:50 PLAN.

11:53:52 THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

11:53:53 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I CAN PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

11:53:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:54:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: NUMBER 9, REZ 20-10 HAD.

11:54:08 REZONING REQUEST IS RS-50 TO PD FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING

11:54:11 FACILITY, AND THE DEFINITION FOR THAT SPECIFIED USE,

11:54:15 THERE ARE FOUR PROPOSED WAIVERS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ON




11:54:17 SCREEN.

11:54:23 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY,

11:54:25 CONTAINS ONE LOT MEASURING 50 FEET BY 380 FEET.

11:54:28 THE APPLICATION REQUESTS FIVE STRUCTURES CONTAINING 506

11:54:34 SQUARE FEET EACH FOR USE IN THE LIVING FACILITY.

11:54:36 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ONE OCCUPANT PER UNIT.

11:54:39 THE SURFACE PARKING IS PROPOSED ON THE SOUTHERN END OF

11:54:41 THE PROPERTY WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS ON EAST LAKE AVENUE.

11:54:47 ON THE EAST PROVIDING CONNECTIVITY FROM THE PARKING AREA

11:54:49 TO EACH STRUCTURE.

11:54:51 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN

11:54:53 VILLAGE AND THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, IN

11:54:59 COMPLIANCE WITH THE EAST TAMPA DESIGN STANDARD ARE

11:55:01 REQUIRED AT TIME OF PERMITTING.

11:55:03 URBAN DESIGN STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND FINDS IT

11:55:06 INCONSISTENT AND IF WOULD YOU REFER TO THE FINDINGS

11:55:09 PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

11:55:11 THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST LAKE AVENUE

11:55:14 EAST OF 30th STREET AND WEST OF NORTH 34th

11:55:16 STREET.

11:55:17 THE PROPOSED PD SETBACKS ARE NORTH 20 FEET, SOUTH 95

11:55:20 FEET, WEST 7 FEET AND EAST 7 FEET.

11:55:23 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HIGHLIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 35 FEET.

11:55:26 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL

11:55:29 USES TO THE NORTH AND WEST AND RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT AND




11:55:32 A CHURCH TO THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING

11:55:38 DISTRICT AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST AND RM-18 AND RS-50

11:55:41 ZONING DISTRICT.

11:55:44 THIS AERIAL MAP FURTHER SHOWS MANY OF THE NATIONAL AND

11:55:49 LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS THAT WE TRY TO FIND WITHIN A

11:55:51 THOUSAND FEET.

11:55:52 AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE NONE.

11:55:53 AS JENNIFER SHOWED IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SITE AS IT HAS A

11:55:57 SMALL FRONTAGE BUT IT IS VERY DEEP IN DEPTH.

11:56:01 THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED THERE.

11:56:02 AND HERE IS EAST LAKE AVENUE.

11:56:07 THE SITE BEFORE YOU IS THE PD PLAN.

11:56:09 YOU CAN SEE PARKING IS IN THE FRONT AND THAT KIND OF

11:56:12 RELATES TO ONE OF THE WAIVERS FROM URBAN DESIGN AS THEY

11:56:14 CAN'T MEET THE URBAN DESIGN OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT

11:56:17 WITH THE PARKING IN THE FRONT, THE OVERLAY STANDARDS

11:56:22 REQUIRING SIDE AND SUCH.

11:56:24 BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, TAMPA INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES

11:56:27 ARE ALIGNED WITH THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO EACH ONE TO

11:56:30 THE PARKING AREA, AND THEN FURTHERMORE GOING OUT TO THE

11:56:34 STREET WITH THE SIDEWALK ON EAST LAKE AVENUE.

11:56:38 HERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS.

11:56:41 NORTH ELEVATION.

11:56:42 THIS WOULD BE THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

11:56:43 AND THE STRUCTURES THAT YOU SEE HERE ARE THE SOLID WASTE




11:56:46 AREAS.

11:56:47 TRASH RECEPTACLES.

11:56:49 AND THEN HERE IS THE EAST ELEVATIONS.

11:56:52 THIS IS THE SITE ON EAST LAKE AVENUE CURRENTLY.

11:56:55 AND THEN THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND CHURCH SOUTH OF THE

11:56:57 SITE.

11:57:00 THERE'S TO THE EAST OF THE SITE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AND

11:57:03 THEN LAG EAST ON LAKE AVENUE.

11:57:06 THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE, SINGLE-FAMILY.

11:57:09 AND THEN A VIEW ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE LOOKING WEST ON

11:57:12 LAKE.

11:57:15 I DID ORIGINALLY PROVIDE A REVISION SHEET AND IF YOU

11:57:18 WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN ANY MOTION YOU MAKE TONIGHT.

11:57:21 THIS SHEET THAT IS SHOWN HERE HAS TWO ADDITIONS SO THE

11:57:24 REQUIRED REVISION SHEET.

11:57:25 WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THROUGH THIS PD REZONING

11:57:28 APPLICANTS DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REFINE THE SPECIFIED

11:57:31 USE.

11:57:33 AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY IS NOT FOUND IN OUR CODE

11:57:35 SO WHAT STAFF HAS TO DO IS WORK CLOSELY WITH THE

11:57:38 APPLICANT TO ENSURE THAT THE USE THAT THEY ARE DESCRIBING

11:57:41 IS DEFINED APPROPRIATELY FOR THIS PD REZONING.

11:57:45 AND IF YOU LOOK AT BULLETS, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS

11:57:51 COMPRISED OF FIVE INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES INTENDED FOR

11:57:54 MAXIMUM OF TWO OCCUPANTS EACH, INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES,




11:57:57 IN THIS INSTANCE SHALL BE DEFINED AS RESIDENTIAL

11:58:00 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS LOCATED ON A SINGLE

11:58:03 DWELLING LOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING HOUSING

11:58:05 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY'S CRITICAL POPULATION

11:58:07 INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MILITARY VETERANS,

11:58:12 MANIFEST -- OR CONTINUUM FOR CARE OF PERSONS IN NEED OF A

11:58:18 EXTRAORDINARY ENVIRONMENT AND POSITION OCCUPANTS FOR HOME

11:58:21 OWNERSHIP AND FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE.

11:58:23 SO THAT WOULD BE THE DEFINITION FOR THE INDEPENDENT

11:58:25 LIVING FACILITY THAT'S SHOWN ON THIS PD.

11:58:27 AND THEN THE SECOND BULLET POINT THAT I 2021 ADD BECAUSE

11:58:30 THIS WAS A REVISE TO THE REVISION SHEET IS FURTHER PD

11:58:34 APPROVAL TO MEET THE INTENDED USE AS DESCRIBED ABOVE.

11:58:36 THE PROPERTY JUST REMAIN UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP,

11:58:39 DWELLINGS SHALL NOT BE SOLD FOR INDEPENDENT OWNERSHIP.

11:58:42 AND THEN THE PAGE NEXT IS THE SECOND PAGE OF THE ORIGINAL

11:58:46 REVISION SHEET THAT I PREVIOUSLY SENT.

11:58:48 WITH THAT BEING SAID THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND

11:58:50 COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND IT

11:58:53 INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT

11:58:54 CODE.

11:58:56 PLEASE SEE THE FINDINGS OF FROM TRANSPORTATION FOR THE

11:59:00 REQUIRED PARKING WAIVER AN R AND PARKING LOCATED IN THE

11:59:02 FRONT YARD.

11:59:03 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE AND




11:59:07 APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, THERE ARE MINOR MODIFICATIONS

11:59:09 AS LISTED IN THE REVISED REVISION SHEET THAT MUST BE

11:59:13 COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

11:59:15 READING.

11:59:16 AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN ANY ORDINANCE.

11:59:19 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:59:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:59:22 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:59:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MR. DINGFELDER WAS FIRST.

11:59:27 I WILL GIVE DEFERENCE TO HIM.

11:59:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THEN

11:59:31 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:59:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IN REGARD TO THE URBAN DESIGN

11:59:39 OBJECTIONS, WAS THAT THEIR ONLY OBJECTION WAS THE PARKING

11:59:42 LOT IN THE FRONT YARD?

11:59:44 AND MY SECOND QUESTION, RYAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER ACCESS

11:59:48 TO THIS PROPERTY, IS THERE REAR ACCESS IN AN ALLEY 300

11:59:54 FEET BACK OR WHAT?

12:00:59 >>RYAN MANASSE: IT IS IN REGARDS TO THAT PARKING AREA,

12:00:59 YES, SIR.

12:00:00 AND THEN THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE NORTH SIDE TO THE REAR

12:00:02 OF THE PROPERTY.

12:00:03 THE ONLY ACCESS THEY HAVE IS YOU SEE ON SCREEN IS OFF

12:00:06 EAST LAKE AVENUE TO THIS FRONT PARKING AREA.

12:00:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE ONLY OBJECTION FROM DESIGN WAS




12:00:13 THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING AREA, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

12:00:19 SORT OF CREATES -- BUT THERE'S NO PLACE ELSE TO PUT IT

12:00:23 REALISTICALLY.

12:00:24 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

12:00:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.

12:00:27 AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS IN THE STAFF REPORTS

12:00:29 ANOTHER URBAN DESIGN COMMENT.

12:00:32 IT'S MORE OR LESS ADDITION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECONDING

12:00:35 BUT IT RELATES TO THE UNPAINTED OR UNFINISHED BUILDING

12:00:39 WALLS ARE PROHIBITED.

12:00:41 SO IT HAS TO HAVE ARCHITECTURAL FINISH FOR THE STRUCTURES

12:00:45 LIKE STUCCO, ET CETERA.

12:00:47 SO URBAN DESIGN IS REQUESTING THAT NOTE BE ADDED BETWEEN

12:00:50 FIRST AND SECOND READING BUT THE MAIN CONSISTENCY FINDING

12:00:54 AS YOU STATED AND I AM STATING HERE IS THAT PARKING.

12:00:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

12:01:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER ASKED ONE OF THOSE.

12:01:03 I KNOW EAST TAMPA HAS A CERTAIN OVERLAY DESIGN FOR THAT

12:01:06 DISTRICT.

12:01:11 IS IT MEETING ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS?

12:01:12 I KNOW THERE'S A FEW.

12:01:18 I DON'T THINK IT MEETS ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

12:01:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: AND TO FURTHER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I

12:01:26 SCROLLED UP TO THE PROPOSED WAIVERS AND WAIVER ONE AND

12:01:29 TWO COME FROM SECTION 27-240 FROM THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY




12:01:34 CODE.

12:01:34 AS YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THEM BEING INCREASE THE FRONT YARD

12:01:37 SETBACK FROM THE REQUIRED 44 TO 95.

12:01:39 THAT'S LIKE A SOFT INCONSISTENCY JUST BECAUSE OF THE

12:01:43 UNIQUE SHAPE OF THE SITE BUT THE MAIN ISSUE I THINK WITH

12:01:46 THE URBAN DESIGN FOLKS IS THE ALLOWING OF THE DRIVEWAY IN

12:01:50 THE FRONT YARD AND THAT'S DIRECTLY FROM THAT EAST TAMPA

12:01:53 OVERLAY DESIGN CRITERIA.

12:01:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE INDEPENDENT, THAT COMES FROM THE

12:02:01 INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY.

12:02:02 WOULD YOU READ THAT AGAIN?

12:02:04 WOULD YOU READ AGAIN WHAT THEY ARE SAYING THAT'S GOING TO

12:02:07 BE?

12:02:09 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WILL READ IT VERY BAIT R I AM.

12:02:12 IT'S COMPRISED OF FIVE INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES FOR A

12:02:17 MAXIMUM TWO OCCUPANTS EACH, INDEPENDENT LIVING HOMES IN

12:02:20 THIS INSTANCE SHALL BE DEFINED AS RESIDENTIAL

12:02:23 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS LOCATED ON A SINGLE

12:02:26 ZONING LOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING HOUSING

12:02:27 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY'S CRITICAL POPULATION,

12:02:31 INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MILITARY VETERANS,

12:02:35 MANIFESTATIONS WORLDWIDE, INC., WHICH IS THE APPLICANT

12:02:38 WILL PROVIDE A CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR THE PERSONS IN NEED

12:02:41 OF A EXTRAORDINARY ENVIRONMENTS AND THE POSITION

12:02:44 OCCUPANTS FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE.




12:02:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.

12:02:52 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING LIKE FOR

12:02:55 ANY REHAB HOUSING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

12:02:58 STRICTLY VETERANS, AND --

12:03:03 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT.

12:03:04 WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE LIKE PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL

12:03:06 FACILITIES AND CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES, THOSE ARE

12:03:10 LICENSED BY THE STATE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC USES.

12:03:13 THIS APPLICANT CAME IN AND HAD THEIR OWN DEFINED USE, AND

12:03:17 THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH HIM, TO

12:03:19 FURTHER DEFINE THIS USE, THAT'S SPECIFIC JUST FOR THIS.

12:03:24 SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THIS IS NOT A USE THAT WOULD HAVE TO

12:03:27 BE LICENSED BY THE STATE BECAUSE YOU ARE A RESIDENTIAL

12:03:30 FACILITY, A GONG GATHER LIVING FACILITY, THERE ARE

12:03:33 CERTIFICATES LICENSES THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET TO DO THOSE

12:03:36 TYPE OF ACTIVITIES.

12:03:37 SO FOR THIS PURPOSE, THAT'S WHY STAFF WORKED VERY CLOSELY

12:03:40 WITH THE APPLICANT TO TRY TO DETERMINE AND GET VERY

12:03:45 ANALYTICAL WITH THIS DEFINED USE FOR THIS INDEPENDENT

12:03:48 LIVING FACILITY.

12:03:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW THE CHURCH DOES A LOT OF GOOD

12:03:52 WORK OVER THERE BUT TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL RESIDENTS IN

12:03:55 THE AREA.

12:03:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE?

12:04:02 ALL RIGHT.




12:04:03 WE HAVE AN APPLICANT, I BELIEVE, IN PERSON ON THE SECOND

12:04:06 FLOOR.

12:04:14 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT THAT WOULD LIKE

12:04:15 TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

12:04:16 THANK YOU.

12:04:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE A MARK JONES?

12:04:26 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

12:04:27 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.

12:04:29 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

12:04:30 >> YES, I DO.

12:04:35 >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

12:04:36 >> I'M DR. MARK JONES, FOUNDER OF MANIFESTATIONS

12:04:40 WORLDWIDE LOCATED AT 3102 EAST LAKE AVENUE.

12:04:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

12:04:49 THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT YOUR CASE, IF YOU

12:04:51 HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.

12:04:52 IF NOT.

12:04:53 >> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL

12:04:56 MEMBERS, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR OUR ZONING REQUEST.

12:05:02 I WANT TO START BY SAYING LISTENING TO TONIGHT'S HEARING,

12:05:05 I REALIZE I NEED TO ADD YOU ALL TO MY PRAYER LIST.

12:05:08 [ LAUGHTER ]

12:05:10 THAT HAPPENS RIGHT AWAY.

12:05:13 MANIFESTATION WORLDWIDE HAS BEEN LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA

12:05:17 FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS, AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS




12:05:24 PART OF OUR CONTINUING EFFORTS TO ADD VALUE TO THE

12:05:28 QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CITIZENS IN EAST TAMPA.

12:05:33 SO THIS PROGRAM, WHICH WE ARE FOCUSING ON, IS GEARED

12:05:38 TOWARD PROVIDING THESE DETACHED INDEPENDENT LIVING

12:05:42 STRUCTURES, PARTICULARLY BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE VETERAN

12:05:46 POPULATION.

12:05:47 WE CURRENTLY RECEIVE A LOT OF CALLS FROM THE VETERANS

12:05:51 ADMINISTRATION, MIKE WARD AT THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION,

12:05:55 ASKING IF WE HAVE ANYPLACE FOR VETERANS THAT ARE TRYING

12:05:58 TO JUST GET BACK ON THEIR FEET.

12:06:00 SO ONE OF OUR UNIQUE PROGRAMS IS TO DO JUST THAT, HELP

12:06:05 VETERANS TO PREPARE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.

12:06:09 WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS ALREADY IN THE AREA PROVIDING

12:06:13 JOBS.

12:06:13 OUR CHURCH IS NOT JUST A CHURCH THAT'S THERE ON SUNDAY

12:06:17 BUT WE ARE THERE SEVEN DAYS A WEAK.

12:06:19 WE HAVE ABOUT 40 PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR US ON STAFF, ANOTHER

12:06:24 10 OR 11 PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR US AS CONTRACTORS, THROUGH

12:06:27 OUR SCHOOLS.

12:06:29 CURRENTLY, WE OPERATE 14 BUILDINGS IN EAST TAMPA, ALL

12:06:35 PART OF THE WORK THAT WE DO THERE.

12:06:37 SO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS PRIMARILY GEARED AGAIN

12:06:41 TOWARDS SERVING A PARTICULAR GROUP THAT WE JUST -- WE

12:06:45 BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR VETERANS,

12:06:48 AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP THEM, PARTICULARLY TO GAIN




12:06:52 INDEPENDENCE, HOME OWNERSHIP, AND OTHER SERVICES THAT

12:06:55 WILL HELP THEM AFTER ALL THAT THEY HAVE SACRIFICED FOR

12:07:00 US.

12:07:01 SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE PROJECT.

12:07:03 I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING THIS MATTER TONIGHT.

12:07:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:07:08 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:07:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, GOOD MORNING, PASTOR.

12:07:12 >> GOOD MORNING.

12:07:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS HESITANT WHEN I SAW WHAT IT WAS,

12:07:18 BUT THEN I SAW YOUR NAME, AND I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOUR

12:07:24 CONGREGATION DOES FOR THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.

12:07:29 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING WE PUT THERE WOULD BE

12:07:33 VIABLE.

12:07:33 YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES OVER THERE.

12:07:34 I WOULD HAVE A HEADACHE LATER ON.

12:07:37 SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT KNOWING THAT I KNOW YOU AND YOU

12:07:44 WILL MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE DONE RIGHT AND IN ORDER,

12:07:47 AND ESPECIALLY IN HELPING VETERANS.

12:07:49 SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL

12:07:53 MONITOR IT WELL WITH THAT PROJECT.

12:07:57 SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT THIS EVENING BECAUSE I KNOW

12:08:01 THAT YOU WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS IN ORDER.

12:08:06 >> ABSOLUTELY.

12:08:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?




12:08:08 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR --

12:08:15 IF I COULD JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WITH ALL REZONE

12:08:20 APPLICATION IT IS IDENTITY OF THE APPLICANT IS NOT A

12:08:22 FACTOR IN YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I MEAN NO DISRESPECT,

12:08:27 PASTOR.

12:08:30 THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL IS THE PROPOSED USE AND THE

12:08:32 APPROPRIATENESS OF THE USE, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO

12:08:35 WAIVERS.

12:08:36 I WOULD JUST CAUTION COUNCIL WHEN YOU ARE DELIBERATING

12:08:40 THAT THE OPERATOR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT IS NOT A FACTOR

12:08:43 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

12:08:45 THANK YOU.

12:08:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. WELLS.

12:08:49 YOU ARE CORRECT.

12:08:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE

12:08:51 SECOND FLOOR, ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS?

12:08:54 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE ARE IN A REGISTERED SPEAKERS TO

12:08:56 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

12:08:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS NOBODY DOWN

12:08:59 THERE.

12:09:00 CORRECT?

12:09:01 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: CORRECT.

12:09:03 >> EVERYBODY LEFT YESTERDAY.

12:09:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:09:08 SECOND BY CARLSON.




12:09:11 ALL RIGHT.

12:09:12 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS?

12:09:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NUMBER REZ 20-104, ORDINANCE BEING

12:09:23 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

12:09:27 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

12:09:29 3110 EAST LAKE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND

12:09:33 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

12:09:35 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY

12:09:38 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY,

12:09:41 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:09:47 BASED ON THE STAFF REPORTS, COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE

12:09:50 GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

12:09:53 AND HOUSING, LU POLICY 21.2, DENSITY PLAN FOR ALLOWABLE

12:10:05 RU 20 FLU, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN

12:10:09 PROMOTES OR ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE

12:10:13 AND COMPATIBILITY TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

12:10:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

12:10:18 GUDES, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:10:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.

12:10:21 >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY BEFORE THE VOTE JUST FOR THE

12:10:25 RECORD, JUST -- DOES THE MOTION INCLUDE THE REVISED

12:10:30 REVISION SHEET?

12:10:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE REVISION SHEET.

12:10:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH

12:10:35 THE REVISION SHEET, SECONDED BY CARLSON.




12:10:38 ROLL CALL VOTE.

12:10:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

12:10:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:10:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

12:10:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:10:47 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

12:10:48 JUST KIDDING, YES.

12:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:10:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT

12:10:55 VOTE.

12:10:56 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

12:10:59 AT 9:30 A.M.

12:11:00 >> I KNOW WHO NOT TO PRAY FOR.

12:11:08 [ LAUGHTER ]

12:11:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PASTOR, ON YOUR NEXT PROJECT MAKE IT

12:11:16 SEVEN OF THESE INDIVIDUAL UNITS AND WE EACH HAVE ONE.

12:11:19 [ LAUGHTER ]

12:11:23 >> I'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND.

12:11:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS VERY MUCH.

12:11:27 THE LAST ONE TONIGHT [OFF MICROPHONE]

12:11:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN'T HEAR YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:11:34 >> WE GO TO THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.

12:11:37 MR. MANASSE.

12:11:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZ 21-01 IS 1720 WEST CARMEN STREET AND

12:11:49 1701 WEST GRAPE STREET, FROM RS-50 AND PD TO PD RETAIL




12:11:54 SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH

12:11:57 A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO 27-140 OF THE

12:12:00 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY FROM 1.0

12:12:03 TO 1.68 F.A.R.

12:12:06 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REPORT

12:12:08 AND PLEASE RETURN TO ME.

12:12:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

12:12:14 YOU SHOULD SEE MY SCREEN ANY MOMENT NOW FOR REZ 202nd

12:12:18 1-01.

12:12:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

12:12:20 GO AHEAD.

12:12:20 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA

12:12:24 PLANNING DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE WEST TAMPA URBAN

12:12:26 VILLAGE.

12:12:28 IT'S OUTLINED IN PURPLE.

12:12:30 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

12:12:32 IT'S A MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED MULTIFAMILY

12:12:35 RESIDENTIAL, A FEW REMAINING INDUSTRIAL USES NORTH OF

12:12:40 KENNEDY, AND WEST OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.

12:12:43 SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP KIND OF REFLECTS THAT

12:12:46 DIVERSITY OF USES IN THE AREA, ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE OF

12:12:50 THE SITE, IT'S COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 AND THEN THERE'S

12:12:55 ONE SMALL PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL 10 ON THE SUBJECT SITE.

12:13:00 10 IS THAT ORANGE COLOR TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE

12:13:03 SUBJECT SITE.




12:13:05 THERE'S COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.

12:13:07 THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MUCH REMAINING GENERAL MIXED USE 24

12:13:11 WHICH THAT LIGHTER PURPLE COLOR.

12:13:14 SO THE APPLICANT HAS ON THE PD PROVIDED ALIGN TO

12:13:21 DELINEATE THE DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND THERE'S

12:13:24 NOTHING IN THAT RESIDENTIAL 10 LAND USE DESIGNATION

12:13:27 THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT DESIGNATION.

12:13:29 SO THAT PART IS CONSISTENT.

12:13:35 AS WE NOTICE, THIS AREA HAS EXPERIENCED RESURGENT GROWTH

12:13:39 IN THE LAST DECADE.

12:13:40 THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT

12:13:46 PATTERN, WE JUST FIND IT IS CONSISTENT, THAT IT PROVIDES

12:13:48 A MIX OF USES, IT'S SUPPORTING PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES, IT

12:13:52 WILL ENHANCE THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE PEDESTRIAN

12:13:55 URBAN NATURE, THE ENTRYWAYS ARE CONSISTENT, THE

12:14:00 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT FACE THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY --

12:14:01 THAT'S A VERY GOOD DESIGN -- AND IMPORTANT IN THE PLAN.

12:14:04 SO OVERALL IT SUPPORTS PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY AND FURTHERS

12:14:07 MIXED USE, AND URBAN VILLAGE POLICIES OF THE

12:14:09 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

12:14:11 IT IS ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT

12:14:14 PATTERN, REDEVELOPMENT GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE URBAN

12:14:17 VILLAGE.

12:14:20 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

12:14:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?




12:14:23 HEARING NONE, MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD.

12:14:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: AND I AM SHARE MY SCREEN.

12:14:29 ITEM NUMBER 10 IS FILE REZ 21-01.

12:14:32 THE CURRENT ZONING RS-50 AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RS-50

12:14:37 SINGLE-FAMILY, AND THEN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALREADY

12:14:39 BEING APPROVED IS FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, AND RETAIL

12:14:42 SALES CONVENIENCE GOODS.

12:14:43 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO CONVERT ALL TO PD

12:14:47 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND

12:14:49 RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS.

12:14:51 THE WAIVERS 1 UP THERE 5 ARE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THROUGH

12:14:55 FILE 1879.

12:14:56 THERE IS ONE NEW WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED AND I DID MAKE A

12:14:59 MODIFICATION TO THAT WAIVER AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE

12:15:02 APPLICANT, SO THERE'S A TYPO IN MY STAFF REPORT.

12:15:05 IT'S THE SECTION 27-285 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF

12:15:10 MULTIPLE FAMILY GREEN SPACE FROM 79,100 SQUARE FEET TO

12:15:14 27,234 SQUARE FEET FOR FEE IN LIEU AT TIME OF PERMITTING

12:15:23 TO BE MODIFIED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD

12:15:26 THIS BE APPROVED AT FIRST READING HERE.

12:15:29 THE PETITIONER IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND IT

12:15:33 IS CURRENTLY RS-50, AND THAT FILE THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED

12:15:36 IN PD FILE REZ 1879 TO CONSTRUCT 226 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING

12:15:42 UNITS AND 1100 SQUARE FEET OF CONVENIENCE GOODS, RETAIL

12:15:46 SALES, IN A 373,979 SQUARE FEET 4-STORY BUILDING WITH




12:15:51 ATTACHED PARKING GARAGE.

12:15:52 THE 2.89 ACRE PROPERTY ENCOMPASSES A BLOCK BOUNDED BY

12:15:54 WEST CARMEN STREET TO THE NORTH, NORTH ROME AVENUE TO THE

12:15:59 EAST, WEST GRAY STREET TO THE SOUTH AND NORTH FREMONT

12:16:02 AVENUE TO THE WEST.

12:16:03 THIS REQUEST IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE SAME USE CURRENTLY

12:16:06 APPROVED IN FILE REZ 1879.

12:16:09 THE 2018 REZONING INCLUDES THE MAJORITY OF RS-50.

12:16:16 SINCE THAT TIME OF THE 2018 APPROVAL THE APPLICANT

12:16:19 OBTAINED THE PARCEL AND REQUESTS TO REZONE THE ENTIRE

12:16:23 BLOCK UNDER THAT ONE PD ZONING.

12:16:25 THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY WAREHOUSING AND OFFICE USES

12:16:28 TOTAL EAST AND NORTH.

12:16:29 THE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE NORTH AND

12:16:32 WEST IN RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR

12:16:36 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

12:16:38 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

12:16:41 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS ARE NORTH 5 FEET TO THE

12:16:44 GARAGE AND 10 FEET TO THE MAIN BUILDING, SOUTH 10 FEET,

12:16:47 EAST 10 FEET, WEST 10 FEET.

12:16:49 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 55 FEET OR FOUR STORIES.

12:16:53 BASED ON THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS/BEDROOMS,

12:16:58 A TOTAL OF 410 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 33848 ARE

12:17:02 BEING PROVIDED.

12:17:03 THE 15% PARKING REDUCTION WAIVER WAS GRANTED BY CITY




12:17:06 COUNCIL IN THE 2018 APPROVAL.

12:17:08 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PARKING GARAGE IS PROPOSED ON

12:17:11 WEST GRAY STREET.

12:17:13 FAULT LAND USE DESIGNATION COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 WHICH

12:17:16 ALLOWS FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO OF WITH UP TO 2.0 PLANNED

12:17:21 DEVELOPMENT WITH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INCLUDING THE

12:17:24 PROVISIONS OF BONUS CRITERIA PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-140.

12:17:28 AND CORRECTION TO THE STAFF REPORT, I DID HAVE AFTER THAT

12:17:31 SENTENCE THE PROJECT FOR INTENSITY WHICH IT DOESN'T.

12:17:35 THE PROJECT IS DECREASING F.A.R. FROM 1.76 TO 1.68.

12:17:42 LAND BUT NOT THE ENTITLEMENTS.

12:17:43 PURSUANT TO 27-140, THE PROPOSED F.A.R. OF 1.68 AND THE

12:17:47 CMU-35 EQUAL PAYMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,015,102.27.

12:17:55 AND ASSOCIATED AGREEMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR

12:17:57 CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL.

12:18:00 THE SITE AS LOCATED AS YOU CAN SEE IS OUTLINED IN RED.

12:18:05 THERE ARE NO LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS WITHIN

12:18:08 A THOUSAND FEET.

12:18:09 JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN, YOU SEE THIS OUTLINE OF YELLOW.

12:18:13 THAT WAS THE ONE PARCEL THAT WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL 2018

12:18:16 REZONING, SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING ENCOMPASSED NOW.

12:18:21 ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF TO FURTHER EXPLAIN THE

12:18:24 ENTITLEMENT SITUATION IS THAT SAME PARCEL.

12:18:26 SO IT'S GREEN SPACE.

12:18:27 THEY ARE ADDING THEIR GREEN SPACE.




12:18:29 THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL UNITS FROM THE 2018 APPROVAL.

12:18:32 SO THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND WITH

12:18:36 THE EXCEPTION OF THIS NEW LOT THAT IS BEING ADDED TO THIS

12:18:40 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

12:18:42 AND THEN THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT I

12:18:45 WILL GO THROUGH.

12:18:50 AND THEN THE PHOTOS, ON THE LEFT SIDE LOOKING EAST ON

12:18:53 GRAY STREET, MIDDLE PHOTO SOUTH OF SIDE ON GRAY, AND THEN

12:18:58 TO THE RIGHT SOUTHWEST ON GRAY STREET.

12:19:01 LEFT PHOTO IS WEST OF THE SITE, NORTHWEST CORNER OF GRAY

12:19:05 AND FREMONT.

12:19:06 AND THE RIGHT PHOTO IS WEST OF THE SITE WHICH IS THE

12:19:08 SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CARMEN AND FREMONT.

12:19:12 AND THEN THE LEFT PHOTO OH IS LOOKING EAST ON CARMEN AND

12:19:15 THE CENTER PHOTO IS LOOKING WEST ON CARMEN AND THEN THE

12:19:18 RIGHT PHOTO IS WEST END OF THE SITE.

12:19:22 YOU CAN SEE CONSTRUCTION HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKING PLACE

12:19:25 FROM THAT 2018 APPROVAL.

12:19:27 TO LEFT NORTH OF SITE, TO THE RIGHT, NORTH SIDE OF CARMEN

12:19:31 AND FREMONT.

12:19:32 SINGLE-FAMILY.

12:19:32 AND THEN NORTHEAST OF THE SITE MULTIFAMILY, AND NORTHWEST

12:19:36 OF THE SITE, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CARMEN AND FREMONT.

12:19:40 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED

12:19:43 THE APPLICATION AND WE DO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE




12:19:45 CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, SHOULD IT THE

12:19:48 PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE WAIVERS AS I HAD

12:19:50 FADE IN THE REPORT AND APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, THERE

12:19:52 ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TORT SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST

12:19:57 AND SECOND READING AS SHOWN ON THE REVISION AND ANY

12:20:00 MOTION TO INCLUDE THIS, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT REVISION

12:20:03 SHEET IN YOUR MOTION.

12:20:04 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

12:20:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

12:20:09 TIME?

12:20:11 ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT.

12:20:12 I SEE ANTHONY EVERETT ON THE LINE.

12:20:15 WE DID NOT SWEAR HIM IN.

12:20:17 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

12:20:18 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

12:20:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM

12:20:29 REGISTERED.

12:20:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

12:20:31 MR. MECHANIK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.

12:20:33 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR.

12:20:35 MR. CHAIRMAN, DAVID MECHANIK, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

12:20:38 APPLICANT.

12:20:39 I HAVE WITH ME ANTHONY EVERETT, THE OWNER DEVELOPER OF

12:20:43 THE PROJECT.

12:20:47 ANTHONY EVERETT.




12:20:49 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?

12:21:05 NOT YET.

12:21:05 THERE YOU GO.

12:21:06 GO AHEAD, SIR.

12:21:09 >>DAVID MECHANIK: OKAY.

12:21:13 ESPECIALLY AT THIS LATE HOUR, I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.

12:21:18 THIS SHOULD BE A FAIRLY SIMPLE APPROVAL, AS THE ONLY

12:21:22 CHANGE WE ARE REQUESTING IS THE ADDITION OF A

12:21:28 SINGLE-FAMILY LOT WHICH APPEARS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER

12:21:35 OR THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE SITE PLAN WHICH YOU

12:21:38 SEE IN THE MEDIUM DARK GREEN SHADING.

12:21:44 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT

12:21:48 ENTITLEMENTS.

12:21:49 WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE BUILDINGS WHATSOEVER.

12:21:53 AND IN FACT THE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND IS

12:21:58 ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE ON MAY 1st OF THIS YEAR.

12:22:03 SO, AGAIN, ALL WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO ADD

12:22:10 APPROXIMATELY 4500 SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE TO THE

12:22:14 PROJECT.

12:22:15 IT CHANGES A LOT OF THE NUMBERS IN THE SITE PLAN.

12:22:20 FOR EXAMPLE, THE GREEN SPACE WAIVER IS ACTUALLY BEING

12:22:25 REDUCED BY 4400 FEET.

12:22:28 THAT IS PROVIDING 4400 MORE SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE

12:22:35 THAN WE DID UNDER THE PRAYER APPROVAL.

12:22:40 AND SO WE ARE SIMPLY ADDING THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOT TO THE




12:22:51 DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING GREEN AND OPEN

12:22:55 SPACE FOR THE PROJECT.

12:22:57 AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

12:22:59 >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?

12:23:04 ALL RIGHT.

12:23:04 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THERE THAT IS HERE TO

12:23:07 SPEAK?

12:23:13 >>AILEEN ROSARIO: DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.

12:23:14 THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

12:23:17 >>> AND THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED.

12:23:19 ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE?

12:23:24 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:23:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:23:29 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:23:30 ANY OPPOSED?

12:23:31 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS?

12:23:35 AND THERE'S ALSO THE RESOLUTION.

12:23:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.

12:23:40 FILE REZ --

12:23:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.

12:23:44 >>CATE WELLS: IF THIS IS APPROVED ON FIRST READING THIS

12:23:55 EVENING.

12:23:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

12:23:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.

12:24:00 OKAY.




12:24:01 FILE REZ 21-01.

12:24:13 APPLICATION -- GOODNESS ME, I AM SORRY.

12:24:21 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

12:24:25 1701 WEST GRAY STREET AND 1720 WEST CARMEN STREET FROM

12:24:28 RS-50 TO PD, AND, EXCUSE ME, TO PD, RETAIL SALES,

12:24:37 CONVENIENCE GOODS, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, WITH BONUS

12:24:40 PROVISION AGREEMENT, PURSUANT TO 27-140 OF THE LAND

12:24:45 DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY FROM 1.0 TO

12:24:52 1.68 F.A.R.

12:24:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.

12:24:59 MR. CITRO, I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY IS BELOW

12:25:05 THAT,.

12:25:11 WERE YOU READING THE F.A.R. TO INCREASE THE INTENSITY?

12:25:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:25:17 IT WAS CORRECT.

12:25:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE ENTRANCE

12:25:25 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY?

12:25:30 ITEM NUMBER 10?

12:25:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:25:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED.

12:25:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE TITLE

12:25:39 RELATING TO THE F.A.R.

12:25:44 >>DAVID MECHANIK: HE IS READING THE BONUS RESOLUTION.

12:25:46 >>CATE WELLS: THAT RESOLUTION DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT IN

12:25:48 THE TITLE EITHER.




12:25:49 I THINK HE NEEDS TO READ JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH ON THE

12:25:51 AGENDA DESCRIBING THE NATURE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

12:25:54 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

12:25:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO.

12:25:59 I'M SORRY.

12:26:00 I KNOW IT'S LATE.

12:26:01 YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FORCE FIR

12:26:04 READING CONSIDERATION UNDER ITEM NUMBER 10?

12:26:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, I DON'T HAVE IT THERE.

12:26:10 SORRY.

12:26:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, HE'S GOT A DIFFERENT THING.

12:26:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEVER MIND.

12:26:20 I HAVE GOT IT.

12:26:21 I'LL GET IT.

12:26:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:26:22 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED ARE IF FIRST READING

12:26:25 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

12:26:27 GENERAL VICINITY OF 1701 WEST GRAPE STREET AND 1720 WEST

12:26:30 CARMEN STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE

12:26:32 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

12:26:35 CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD

12:26:39 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- EXCUSE ME, AND PD PLANNED

12:26:43 DEVELOPMENT, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,

12:26:46 MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SEAMS, CONVENIENCE GADS, PROVIDING AN

12:26:49 EFFECTIVE DATE.




12:26:50 AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF WITH

12:26:53 COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, THE DEVELOPMENT IS AS

12:26:56 CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH

12:26:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PROPOSED, THE INCLUSION OF THE

12:27:03 PARCEL OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1720 WEST CARMEN STREET

12:27:07 ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT WHICH PROMOTES THE MIXED USE

12:27:09 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND IN-FILL ON UNDERUTILIZED UL

12:27:15 POLICY 2.1.2 AND THE 1.68 F.A.R., THE INCREASE OF THE

12:27:24 INTENSITY OF THE ABOVE 1.0 F.A.R. IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS

12:27:29 LOCATION.

12:27:30 THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVERS WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY

12:27:32 INTERFERE OR INJURY THE RIGHTS OF THOSE PROPERTIES OF

12:27:37 OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS,

12:27:40 AND I AM ALSO INCLUDING THE RESOLUTION.

12:27:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE DON'T INCLUDE THE RESOLUTION.

12:27:46 THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AT THE SECOND READING.

12:27:48 BUT IS THERE A REVISION SHEET?

12:27:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT THERE IS A REVISION SHEET

12:27:53 ASSOCIATED.

12:27:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:27:54 IT IS LATE.

12:27:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:27:57 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:27:58 ROLL CALL VOTE.

12:27:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.




12:28:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:28:03 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

12:28:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:28:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

12:28:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:28:10 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT

12:28:13 VOTE.

12:28:13 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 4th

12:28:16 AT 9:30 A.M.

12:28:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEW BUSINESS.

12:28:21 COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?

12:28:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, I HAVE GOT A COUPLE, MR. CHAIR, IF I

12:28:26 MAY REALLY FAST.

12:28:27 FIRST, I MOVE -- YOU ALL MAY HAVE READ IN THE "TAMPA BAY

12:28:31 TIMES" THAT A YOUNG MAN NAMED JOSH FELDER, A YOUNG MAN

12:28:34 FROM BEST BUDDIES WITH AUTISM WHO DANCED IN THE SUPER

12:28:41 BOWL AND I WANTED TO GIVE HIM A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

12:28:44 COMMENDATION.

12:28:45 I KNOW JOSH.

12:28:46 HE'S A HECK OF A GREAT GUY AND JUST AWESOME.

12:28:49 YOU KNOW WHAT?

12:28:51 FEBRUARY 25th, 2021 WORKSHOP VIRTUALLY, AT 9 A.M. IF

12:28:56 WE MAY.

12:28:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS THE GENTLEMAN THAT HIS MOM

12:28:59 SAW HIM ON TV AND RECOGNIZED HIM BY HIS EYES?




12:29:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW.

12:29:06 I DON'T KNOW.

12:29:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAW HIS EYES, AND --

12:29:10 >>BILL CARLSON: HE WAS WEARING A MASK.

12:29:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN

12:29:14 VIERA.

12:29:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:29:16 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:29:18 AYE.

12:29:19 GO AHEAD, SIR.

12:29:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THE NEXT ONE, I REFERENCED IT THIS

12:29:24 MORNING, I MOTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY STAFF --

12:29:27 SORRY, CHIEF OF STAFF -- TIRED -- TO REPORT BACK TO TAMPA

12:29:30 CITY COUNCIL AT OUR NEXT REGULAR SESSION, OR WHENEVER TO

12:29:40 BE THERE, TO NOBODY HOW TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH

12:29:49 [~DISTORTION~] FOR TRANSPORTATION, ALMOST $60 MILLION.

12:29:56 MY UNDERSTANDING THE DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD IS

12:29:59 SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD OPINE ON, AND

12:30:02 WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OR CITY STAFF TALK ABOUT

12:30:05 WHAT PROJECTS THESE FUNDS RESPECTIVELY WOULD BE UTILIZED

12:30:10 FOR.

12:30:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

12:30:13 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

12:30:14 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:30:16 ALL IN FAVOR?




12:30:17 YAY.

12:30:18 ANY OPPOSED?

12:30:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE, JUST WANT TO

12:30:22 MAKE SURE THE CLERK HAS GOTTEN IT.

12:30:24 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN VIERA THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING ALL

12:30:27 FOR TRANSPORTATION BUT YOUR TRANSMISSION WAS GARBLED.

12:30:30 IS THAT CORRECT?

12:30:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:30:34 AND THEN THAT'S IT.

12:30:36 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IRONIC.

12:30:38 I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LENGTH OF MEETINGS AND SOME

12:30:41 IDEAS THAT I HAD, BUT IT'S TOO DAMN LATE.

12:30:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:30:45 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEW

12:30:47 BUSINESS, SIR?

12:30:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER A COUPLE

12:30:53 MONTHS AGO I TRIED TO BRING UP THAT TRANSPORTATION

12:30:56 QUESTION, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY JUMPED IN AND SHUT ME

12:30:59 DOWN REAL QUICK.

12:31:00 SO I WON'T DO IT AFTER MIDNIGHT.

12:31:05 I'M ALL FOR THAT.

12:31:09 BUT I WANTED TO BRING UP DURING CITY COUNCIL AS RELATED

12:31:12 TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING, WAS IN REGARD

12:31:17 TO TRYING TO IDENTIFY A PARK IN CHANNELSIDE TO NAME AFTER

12:31:22 OUR FORMER COUNCILWOMAN LINDA SAUL-SENA.




12:31:25 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THAT CITY

12:31:30 STAFF MEET AND WORK WITH THE CRA STAFF TO IDENTIFY AN

12:31:34 APPROPRIATE PARK IN CHANNELSIDE TO NAME AFTER LINDA

12:31:38 SAUL-SENA, AND COME BACK TO US WITH A REPORT IN 60 DAYS.

12:31:44 WHEN WOULD THAT BE, MR. SHELBY?

12:31:46 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL?

12:31:47 MORNING MEETING.

12:31:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHECK FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL.

12:31:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE END OF APRIL?

12:31:59 THE 15th OF APRIL.

12:32:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 15th OF APRIL DURING STAFF

12:32:05 REPORTS.

12:32:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

12:32:07 DINGFELDER.

12:32:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:32:09 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:32:10 ANY OPPOSED?

12:32:11 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

12:32:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

12:32:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD NIGHT.

12:32:17 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:32:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

12:32:22 NUMBER ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE

12:32:25 MARSHAL REED, AND ALL THE CREW MEMBERS THAT WERE ON FIRE

12:32:30 BOAT NUMBER 1, WHICH IS THE PATRIOT, CITY OF TAMPA FIRE




12:32:35 BOAT, FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE ON BOARD DURING THE BUCS

12:32:38 PARADE.

12:32:40 IT IS JUST -- WAS JUST AN AMAZING TRIP.

12:32:44 SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE A MOTION TO

12:32:48 PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS, TAMPA

12:32:53 BAY BUCCANEERS.

12:32:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNEW IT WAS COMING.

12:32:56 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO --

12:33:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SPREAD OUT ACROSS

12:33:03 THE COUNTRY, TO RIGHTFULLY SO, FAMILIES BEING IN LOCK

12:33:08 DOWN SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT ABOUT TWO MONTHS OUT.

12:33:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL MAKE IT TO BE DETERMINED ONCE

12:33:13 WE COORDINATE WITH THEM.

12:33:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOUND GOOD.

12:33:16 I MAKE THAT MOTION.

12:33:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:33:19 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:33:20 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:33:21 AYE.

12:33:22 ANY OPPOSED?

12:33:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MORE, MR. CHAIR.

12:33:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:33:25 AND THIS COMES FROM THE LOVELY LADIES, AA LADIES, ONE OF

12:33:29 WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE WOMAN WHO GAVE BIRTH TO ME, I

12:33:33 MOVE TO PROVIDE A COMMENDATION TO THE PARKS AND




12:33:35 RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR GREAT EFFORTS TO PROMOTE

12:33:39 SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA DURING THE

12:33:43 COVID PANDEMIC, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROVIDING

12:33:47 COVID-19 VACCINATIONS FOR SENIORS OVER 65 ENROLLED IN A

12:33:52 RECREATIONAL PROGRAM.

12:33:55 THIS EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TOOK PLACE SATURDAY, JANUARY

12:33:58 16th, AND THE SECOND ROUND OF VACCINATIONS CAME ON

12:34:01 FEBRUARY 6th, AT THE DAVID BARKSDALE ACTIVE OLDER

12:34:08 ADULT CENTER.

12:34:09 AND IF I MAY READ OUT THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE

12:34:12 RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.

12:34:14 LISA BRYANT, JOHN GRIMSLEY, JEFF VANORDEN, ROBERT DELL,

12:34:24 LOLITA LOVETT, ANNETTE LAMBRELL, SHAMIKA, JEAN PHILIP,

12:34:34 JOHN WILES, JOANNA MANGIOTO, TYLER DAVIS, HANLEY BOLIKI,

12:34:43 AND I AM SORRY IF I AM PRONOUNCING SOME PEOPLE'S NAMES,

12:34:46 BUT MORE ESPECIALLY THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, CHARLIE BRANLEY

12:34:49 AND MR. JOHN ALLEN.

12:34:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:34:53 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

12:34:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:34:55 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:35:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU MISSED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.

12:35:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO IF WE MISSED ANYBODY --

12:35:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?

12:35:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, THAT CLEANS ME OUT.




12:35:14 GOOD MEETING TONIGHT.

12:35:15 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

12:35:18 I APOLOGIZE.

12:35:20 FOR COUNCILMAN CITRO'S MOTION FOR THE BUCS TO PUT THIS IN

12:35:25 SUNSHINE, WE ALL RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM THE DAUGHTER OF

12:35:29 A GENTLEMAN WHO DIED OF CANCER, APPARENTLY A BIG BUCS

12:35:33 FAN.

12:35:34 SO IF WE CAN, COUNCILMAN CITRO, I WILL HAVE MY AIDE WORK

12:35:39 WITH YOURS ON SEEING IF THE FAMILY -- [AUDIO DISTORTION]

12:35:44 GO ON THE BOAT, AND OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFICULT, BUT MAYBE

12:35:49 WE CAN HAVE THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, AND MAYBE THAT WILL BE A

12:35:52 GOOD THING.

12:35:53 JUST THAT.

12:35:54 THANK YOU.

12:35:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:35:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.

12:35:59 JUST ONE THING.

12:36:01 I KNOW LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT THE STAFFORD MEMORIAL

12:36:06 AWARD AND APPARENTLY A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION, BUT I

12:36:11 WOULD LIKE A COMMENDATION TO MS. IDA WALKER TO BE VIRTUAL

12:36:14 OR DOWNSTAIRS FOR A COMMENDATION ON MARCH 4th FOR THE

12:36:21 STAFFORD AWARD.

12:36:23 WE HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON.

12:36:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CEREMONY, YES.

12:36:28 >> THAT COMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE TO THE GROUP AND THIS




12:36:32 COMMENDATION WILL BE TO THE INDIVIDUAL.

12:36:34 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:36:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:36:37 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:36:38 AYE.

12:36:38 ANYTHING ELSE?

12:36:40 MR. CARLSON?

12:36:41 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO

12:36:44 RECEIVE AND FILE MY CONFLICT FORM FROM LAST WEEK THAT I

12:36:48 HAVE GIVEN TO THE CLERK, PLEASE.

12:36:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

12:36:52 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, I GUESS FROM COUNCILMAN

12:36:55 CARLSON.

12:36:56 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

12:36:57 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:36:58 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:37:01 >>BILL CARLSON: THEN QUICKLY BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE WE

12:37:03 CAN'T TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, BUT I WILL MAKE THIS

12:37:09 REALLY SHORT SO WE DON'T END UP IN ALONG CONVERSATION

12:37:11 RIGHT NOW, BUT WE MADE A MOTION OR PASSED A MOTION LAST

12:37:14 WEEK FOR THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, AND AS I HAVE

12:37:19 LOOKED AT THAT MORE AND LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY I

12:37:25 REALLY THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOUTH OF GANDY.

12:37:28 SO I AM SENT MY FEEDBACK TO THE STAFF.

12:37:30 I MADE A SEPARATE MOTION TO FOCUS ON SOUTH OF GANDY.




12:37:34 THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER MADE WAS

12:37:37 SUPPOSED TO BE SOUTH OF EUCLID AND ENDED UP BEING THE

12:37:41 WHOLE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.

12:37:45 THE SOUTH OF GANDY PEOPLE REALLY WANTED SOMETHING SOUTH

12:37:48 OF GANDY, AND I THINK THE REST OF THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT

12:37:50 ANYTHING.

12:37:50 SO WE WILL LEAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER DAY BUT I WANT TO THROW

12:37:53 IT OUT THERE.

12:37:53 THE SECOND THING IS, I HAVE BEEN GETTING AN UNUSUAL

12:37:56 NUMBER OF CALLS IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO ABOUT WEIRD WATER

12:37:59 BILLS.

12:38:02 ONE OF THEM WAS YOLIE.

12:38:05 THEY WERE GETTING -- PEOPLE GETTING THESE INITIALLY LARGE

12:38:08 LIKE TWO OR THREE TIMES SIZE WATER BILLS.

12:38:11 AND IF IT'S ONE PERSON, IT COULD BE AN ANOMALY.

12:38:15 BUT I AM HEARING SEVERAL OF THEM.

12:38:17 AND SO IF YOU ALL SEE A PATTERN OF IT, MAYBE WE SHOULD

12:38:21 CONTACT THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND ASK THEM IF THERE'S

12:38:23 ANYTHING WEIRD GOING ON WITH THEIR SYSTEM.

12:38:25 THAT'S ALL.

12:38:26 THANK YOU, SIR.

12:38:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:38:28 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

12:38:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

12:38:31 I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. CARLSON'S COMMENT IN




12:38:34 REGARD TO THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM AND THE SOUTH OF GANDY

12:38:40 ISSUE.

12:38:41 IT'S FUNNY, BILL, BY COINCIDENCE I SENT AN E-MAIL TO SOME

12:38:46 OF THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, AND I

12:38:49 THINK LEGAL AS WELL, SUGGESTING THAT WE EXPLORE -- THAT

12:38:54 THEY EXPLORE WAYS TO NOT INCLUDE THE REST OF THE CITY IF

12:39:02 POSSIBLE.

12:39:03 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS SUGGESTING WAS

12:39:10 POSSIBILITY, BECAUSE ALSO RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION AND

12:39:16 EVACUATIONS, AND THAT SORT OF THING, WAS TO PERHAPS LOOK

12:39:20 AT TO EXCLUDE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN TRANSIT OR

12:39:24 TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.

12:39:25 SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE FORMALIZE THE MOTION TO

12:39:31 AT LEAST REQUEST THAT STAFF WHILE THEY PULL THIS TOGETHER

12:39:37 THIS EVENING, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BIG DISCUSSION,

12:39:40 BUT AT LEAST SHE'S HERE TO HEAR IT, TO REQUEST THAT STAFF

12:39:45 LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR EXCLUDING THE REST OF THE CITY, AND

12:39:53 POSSIBLY ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS BEING AREAS THAT ARE ON

12:39:58 TRANSIT, TRANSIT CORRIDORS, LIKE DOWNTOWN, CHANNELSIDE,

12:40:02 KENNEDY, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW.

12:40:04 THOSE ARE MAJOR TRANSIT CORRIDORS WHERE EVACUATION MIGHT

12:40:07 BE LESS OF AN ISSUE.

12:40:10 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.

12:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

12:40:13 ALL IN FAVOR?




12:40:14 AYE.

12:40:14 ANY OPPOSED?

12:40:16 ALL RIGHT.

12:40:18 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

12:40:20 MOTION TO RECEIVE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:40:22 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:40:23 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:40:25 AYE.

12:40:26 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

12:40:27 (MEETING ADJOURNED)

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