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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 18, 2021
9:00 A.M.



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>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

09:03:11 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO

09:03:13 ORDER.

09:03:16 COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU STILL HAVE THE INVOCATION, SIR?

09:03:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, I DO, MR. CHAIR.

09:03:22 UNFORTUNATELY, OUR INDIVIDUAL WHO IS SUPPOSED TO COME

09:03:24 WITH US TODAY COULDN'T MAKE IT.

09:03:26 I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND AND RISE AND OBSERVE A

09:03:29 MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE AFTER.

09:03:32 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:03:33 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:03:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

09:04:00 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:04:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:04:02 >> CARLSON?

09:04:03 DINGFELDER?

09:04:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

09:04:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.




09:04:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:04:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

09:04:11 ALL RIGHT.

09:04:12 MR. SHELBY.

09:04:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS

09:04:15 OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

09:04:17 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

09:04:19 TODAY IS MARCH 18 OF 2021.

09:04:22 CITY COUNCIL IS HERE FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA.

09:04:26 AND DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY, THIS MEETING

09:04:29 IS BEING CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM OF THE

09:04:33 CITY COUNCIL PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

09:04:36 HOWEVER, IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS,

09:04:38 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE

09:04:41 VIRTUALLY THROUGH TELECONFERENCING, VIDEO

09:04:43 TELECONFERENCING, WHICH IS REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA

09:04:46 STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR

09:04:49 CMT.

09:04:50 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY

09:04:53 RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY 2020-225 AS AMENDED BY

09:04:58 RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020-490.

09:05:02 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,

09:05:04 LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON CABLE TV ON SPECTRUM

09:05:08 CHANNEL 640 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND LIVE ON THE

09:05:12 INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD.




09:05:22 NOW, THE PUBLIC HAS HAD ALTERNATE MEANS OF COMMUNICATING

09:05:27 WITH CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY BY

09:05:31 WRITTEN COMMENTS, BY COMMENTS SENT BY E-MAIL, BY LEAVING

09:05:35 A VOICE MAIL MESSAGE, AND THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

09:05:39 SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT USING CMT BY

09:05:43 PREREGISTERING.

09:05:44 THE WAY TO DO THAT, THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AT

09:05:47 TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT, ONE WORD.

09:05:52 NOW, IF PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE A DEVICE

09:05:56 SUCH AS A LAPTOP OR A TABLET OR A DESKTOP FROM HOME OR

09:06:00 REMOTELY AT WORK, THEY CAN USE CMT, WHICH IS MADE

09:06:05 AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY

09:06:08 HALL HERE AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

09:06:11 PLEASE NOTE THAT THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING

09:06:16 INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE REQUIRED.

09:06:18 THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR WRITTEN OR VOICE MAIL COMMENTS SO

09:06:22 THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED TIMELY TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

09:06:25 AND ALSO, PUBLIC COMMENTS PRERECORDED, REMOTE OR

09:06:30 IN-PERSON USING CMT WILL BE HEARD AT THE START OF THE

09:06:33 MEETING AT THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL.

09:06:36 EXCEPT FOR COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH

09:06:39 WILL BE HEARD WHEN IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA.

09:06:42 WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR E-MAIL HAVE BEEN

09:06:46 DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE

09:06:49 PERMANENT RECORD OF THE MEETING AND ALL COMMENTS RECEIVED




09:06:52 TIMELY, EITHER BY MAIL, E-MAIL, VOICE MAIL OR CMT ARE

09:06:56 AFFORDED EQUAL CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS

09:06:59 WERE MADE IN PERSON.

09:07:00 THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:07:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:07:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:07:04 WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM TO THE

09:07:09 AGENDA.

09:07:09 WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING, TOO.

09:07:12 I WANT TO GO OVER THAT BECAUSE THERE IS QUITE A BIT.

09:07:14 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S OFFICE THAT HE

09:07:17 WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.

09:07:19 HE IS OUT OF TOWN.

09:07:20 FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL NOT BE HERE FOR

09:07:23 TODAY'S MEETING.

09:07:24 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO'S OFFICE THAT ITEM

09:07:29 NUMBER 3, COMMENDATION TO ERNIE MUELLER WILL BE PRESENTED

09:07:33 OFF-SITE AT A LATER DATE.

09:07:34 HE WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON, MR.

09:07:37 MUELLER.

09:07:38 ITEM NUMBER 4, IF YOU'LL SEE ON THE AGENDA REGARDING

09:07:43 PARKING, THAT IS GOING TO BE COMBINED WITH ITEM 69.

09:07:48 SO WE'LL TAKE THAT UP LATER TO BE HEARD TOGETHER.

09:07:51 SO WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION BEFORE ANY VOTES.

09:07:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF




09:07:56 PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE AGENDA, ARE YOU REFERRING TO ITEM

09:07:59 NUMBER 4?

09:08:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

09:08:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ORDINANCE BEING HELD FOR FIRST

09:08:04 READING CONSIDERATION.

09:08:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THAT WILL BE HEARD WITH ITEM 69

09:08:07 LATER SO WE HAVE EVERYTHING ALL TOGETHER SO THERE'S

09:08:10 CLARITY.

09:08:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

09:08:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MEMO FROM THE

09:08:12 ADMINISTRATION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 38 REGARDING A

09:08:15 SUBLEASE AGREEMENT WITH BEEP INCORPORATED.

09:08:18 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM DAVID MECHANIK REQUESTING A

09:08:24 CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 59, WHICH I KNOW WE HAVE

09:08:28 QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NUMBER 59.

09:08:33 THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THAT, WHICH MEANS YOU WILL

09:08:36 STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AT THAT LATER DATE SHOULD

09:08:40 THAT CONTINUANCE BE GRANTED.

09:08:41 IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE OR IN PERSON, ITEM NUMBER 59 IS

09:08:45 TECHNICALLY PENDING.

09:08:46 WE MAY BE HEARING THAT AT A LATER DATE BECAUSE OF THE

09:08:49 LACK OF A FULL COUNCIL.

09:08:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR ANYBODY

09:08:53 LISTENING, DO YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE WHAT 59 IS?

09:08:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 59, SIR, WAS A REZONING




09:09:02 OVER IN MY DISTRICT.

09:09:04 I WILL CLARIFY THERE, 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE.

09:09:09 THIS IS A FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

09:09:14 IT WAS CONTINUED FROM FEBRUARY 11th, 2021, BUT BECAUSE

09:09:18 WE DO NOT HAVE A FULL COUNCIL PRESENT, THE APPLICANT HAS

09:09:22 REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE ON THAT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT

09:09:24 OF PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT.

09:09:26 REMEMBER, THOSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WILL HAVE A

09:09:28 CHANCE TO SPEAK AT THAT LATER DATE, IF THAT CONTINUANCE

09:09:31 IS GRANTED.

09:09:32 I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT.

09:09:36 NEXT, COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, ITEM NUMBER 66, WE'LL GET TO

09:09:42 THAT.

09:09:42 YOU WILL BE SPEAKING FIRST ON THAT.

09:09:44 COUNCILMAN GUDES REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE ON ITEM NUMBER

09:09:47 73 FOR A LATER DATE FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT OF

09:09:49 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS TO APPEAR.

09:09:54 THAT IS THE HOUSEKEEPING.

09:09:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR

09:09:57 SEPARATE MOTIONS ON CERTAIN ITEMS.

09:09:59 WE CAN COMBINE THEM, IF YOU LIKE.

09:10:01 FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE ITEMS 3 AND 38 FROM

09:10:04 THE AGENDA BY A MOTION AT THIS TIME, THAT WOULD BE IN

09:10:06 ORDER.

09:10:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 3




09:10:09 AND 38.

09:10:10 MOTION BY GUDES, SECOND BY VIERA.

09:10:13 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:10:14 OPPOSED?

09:10:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, WHEN YOU APPROVE THE ADDENDUM,

09:10:17 YOU APPROVE TAKING UP THE ITEMS.

09:10:19 THEY DON'T NECESSARILY CONSTITUTE ACTION ON THE ITEMS

09:10:22 THEMSELVES, JUST REMEMBER WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT TO CLEAN

09:10:25 UP THE AGENDA WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM IF IT HASN'T BEEN

09:10:28 DONE UP FRONT.

09:10:29 I APPRECIATE THAT.

09:10:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:10:30 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE

09:10:32 ADDENDUM?

09:10:33 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:10:36 SECONDED BY GUDES.

09:10:37 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:10:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A QUESTION

09:10:40 REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM

09:10:43 BECAUSE THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE WANTING TO PERHAPS BE

09:10:48 CONTINUED.

09:10:51 MAYBE NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE UP THE ITEM OF CONTINUANCES

09:10:55 PRIOR TO GETTING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:10:56 IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT AFTER THE COMMENDATIONS?

09:11:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO IT NOW.




09:11:01 WE'RE ON IT.

09:11:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT ME,

09:11:04 FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE I'M AWARE OF THE MEMORANDUM FROM

09:11:09 COUNCILMAN VIERA ASKING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE

09:11:11 COMMENDATIONS EARLY, BUT IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

09:11:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO THE CLEANUP REAL QUICK.

09:11:18 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.

09:11:19 ALL I REQUESTED IS WE DO COMMENDATIONS PRIOR TO THE 28

09:11:23 HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE TODAY.

09:11:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:11:26 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 59?

09:11:29 >> SO MOVED.

09:11:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 59 AGAIN IS?

09:11:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS CONTINUED

09:11:35 FROM FEBRUARY 11.

09:11:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT CAN'T BE TAKEN UP UNTIL 10:30.

09:11:40 YOU CAN STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT 10:30 TO ADDRESS THAT

09:11:43 ITEM, BUT THAT IS A TIME CERTAIN THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE IT

09:11:46 UP EARLIER THAN THAT.

09:11:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM

09:11:49 NUMBER 73?

09:11:51 REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:11:53 TO WHAT DATE WOULD YOU LIKE, SIR?

09:11:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY ARE ON SPRING BREAK.

09:12:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT JUNE 3, MAY 6?




09:12:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION?

09:12:04 TO COORDINATE WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND WHEN YOU GET

09:12:07 THE DATE, THEN YOU CAN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

09:12:09 EITHER REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA OR RECEIVE AND FILE IT.

09:12:15 HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT OR SET A DATE.

09:12:18 THIS WAY, AT LEAST YOU'LL KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A DATE TO

09:12:21 BRING BACK TO COUNCIL.

09:12:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

09:12:25 GUDES TO CONTINUE THIS TO A LATER DATE TO BE DETERMINED.

09:12:28 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:12:30 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:12:31 AYE.

09:12:31 ALL RIGHT.

09:12:32 THAT IS IT.

09:12:39 COUNCILMAN --

09:12:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.

09:12:41 WHEN DID YOU WANT TO TAKE UP THE ISSUE OF ITEM NUMBER --

09:12:47 AND YOU CAN -- LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT.

09:12:52 ANY OTHER CONTINUANCES FOR ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS?

09:12:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THERE ANY CONTINUANCES, ANY

09:13:00 REQUESTS?

09:13:02 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:13:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DO HAVE A REQUEST.

09:13:04 ITEM NUMBER 74.

09:13:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.




09:13:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS FOR

09:13:11 PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:13:12 BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A BIG ISSUE HERE AND WE

09:13:15 DON'T HAVE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE TODAY.

09:13:18 I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM, ESPECIALLY WITH ONE OF

09:13:22 THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE AFFECTED DISTRICT.

09:13:25 WHAT ROUTE HE MIGHT BE LOOKING TO GO OR INFORMATION HE

09:13:30 MIGHT HAVE.

09:13:31 I ASK THAT WE MAYBE CONTINUE THIS.

09:13:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:13:37 EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION,

09:13:40 THIS CONCERNS COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOST IMPORTANT

09:13:44 DISTRICT AND I FEEL THE COUNCILMAN SHOULD BE HERE.

09:13:46 IT'S JUST MY OPINION.

09:13:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, DID YOU HAVE

09:13:49 ANYTHING SIR?

09:13:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

09:13:51 I THINK WHENEVER IT COMES TO THAT ISSUE IT'S WELL TAKEN

09:13:54 FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO BE HERE.

09:13:57 OBVIOUSLY, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION -- WHO IS --

09:14:02 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:14:03 I WAS PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPOSAL, THE

09:14:07 ADMINISTRATION'S COUNTERPROPOSAL AND TALK ABOUT SOME

09:14:11 SENTIMENTS I EXPRESSED YESTERDAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD,

09:14:13 ET CETERA.




09:14:14 I WON'T GO INTO THEM NOW BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL BE

09:14:16 GOING DOWN A RABBIT HOLE IN THE BEGINNING OF TAMPA CITY

09:14:18 COUNCIL.

09:14:19 MAYBE WE CAN GET INTO IT LATER.

09:14:21 BUT IF THIS GETS MOVED ONE OR TWO WEEKS, I THINK THAT'S

09:14:23 FINE.

09:14:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU ARE THE

09:14:26 MAKER OF THE MOTION.

09:14:27 ITEM 74 REGARDING THE NINE MONTHS' DURATION, 10% MIXED

09:14:34 USE REQUIREMENT MORATORIUM.

09:14:37 ANY OBJECTION TO CONTINUING THIS?

09:14:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'M A LITTLE BIT TORN.

09:14:43 I THINK ON THE ONE HAND, THIS ISSUE HAS DEFINITELY

09:14:49 DRAGGED ON SINCE THE FALL, SINCE WE FIRST STARTED TALKING

09:14:54 ABOUT IT IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.

09:14:56 I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS, BUT I

09:15:00 APPRECIATE THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.

09:15:03 WE SHOULD TRY TO RESPECT OUR DISTRICT COUNCILMAN AND THIS

09:15:07 IS CLEARLY A VERY STRONG ISSUE.

09:15:09 AND MR. CARLSON'S DISTRICT.

09:15:13 WE SHOULD, I GUESS, GIVE HIM THE COURTESY OF A VOTE, NOT

09:15:18 ONLY A VOTE, BUT LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION, THE FULL

09:15:22 DISCUSSION AND PARTICIPATING.

09:15:23 WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW?

09:15:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WOULD BE FINE, MR. DINGFELDER.




09:15:30 AGAIN, WITH THE NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS AND MEETINGS I HAD

09:15:33 YESTERDAY WITH A BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS AND THE COMMUNITY, IT

09:15:37 SEEMS SEVERAL TIMES -- I'M NOT BLAMING STAFF AT ALL.

09:15:40 DON'T TAKE IT THE WRONG WAY.

09:15:41 SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE DISCUSSION I'VE ASKED THAT

09:15:44 SOMEHOW YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON OF THE CITY AND

09:15:51 OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON SOMEHOW HAVE A MEETING

09:15:53 WITH BOTH THOSE GROUPS TO COME TO SOME TYPE OF

09:15:58 COMPROMISE.

09:15:59 IT MAY NOT NEED TO COME TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE.

09:16:03 MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SIDES, ALL SIDES COMING TO ONE

09:16:07 MEETING SO EVERYBODY CAN HASH OUT THOSE CONCERNS.

09:16:09 AGAIN, SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ARE SMALL WHEN I HEAR IT.

09:16:13 AND WHEN I'VE HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEYS AND THOSE

09:16:15 DEVELOPERS WHO THEY REPRESENT YESTERDAY, THEY WERE PRETTY

09:16:18 MUCH SAYING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET

09:16:21 WITH EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO

09:16:25 DEAL WITH THE APARTMENTS, COMMUNITY SAYS ABOUT

09:16:30 SINGLE-FAMILY, RETAIL, BOARDWALK, RIVERWALK DOWN THERE,

09:16:32 SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO WANT TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT I GUESS

09:16:38 WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.

09:16:40 WHAT I'M HEARING, FROM THIS COUNCIL, STRICTLY TO COME

09:16:44 BACK WITH A MORATORIUM ISSUE.

09:16:47 NEVERTHELESS WASN'T REALLY A COMMUNITY-TYPE THING.

09:16:51 I CAN'T SAY THAT'S TRUE.




09:16:53 I CAN ONLY SAY WHAT THOSE TWO SIDES HAVE SAID.

09:16:55 LATE YESTERDAY, GOT ALL THOSE ZOOM CALLS.

09:16:59 AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WANT THE LIAISON FOR THAT DISTRICT TO

09:17:04 BE THERE FOR QUESTIONS.

09:17:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:17:08 MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON.

09:17:09 I DON'T SEE THE RED LIGHT.

09:17:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HOPE IT'S ON.

09:17:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS.

09:17:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT TO GET INTO THE SUBSTANCES AND

09:17:15 MERITS, AS LUIS INDICATED, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IT,

09:17:18 IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

09:17:20 I WILL SAY, MR. GUDES, IN RESPONSE TO THE ISSUE OF TRYING

09:17:22 TO FIND MIDDLE GROUND, AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, I'VE

09:17:27 BEEN TRYING TO SORT OF MEDIATE THIS.

09:17:31 I ACTUALLY GOT A -- PROFESSIONAL MEDIATOR BY TRAINING

09:17:37 YEARS AGO, TRIED TO MEDIATE THIS.

09:17:40 AND I MET WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

09:17:42 THE ATTORNEYS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

09:17:44 I'VE MET NUMEROUS TIMES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS.

09:17:48 I'VE BEEN RESPONDING TO HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS, AS I'M SURE

09:17:52 YOU GUYS HAVE.

09:17:53 AND MEETING WITH STAFF ON AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR

09:17:56 OCCASIONS.

09:17:57 AND I THINK WE HAVE -- I THINK WE'VE MODIFIED THIS TO THE




09:18:01 MIDDLE GROUND.

09:18:03 IT STARTED OUT AS SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT.

09:18:06 THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED AN ABSOLUTE MORATORIUM.

09:18:11 DON'T GIVE US YOUR APPLICATIONS.

09:18:13 WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT YOUR APPLICATIONS.

09:18:15 THAT'S WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS.

09:18:17 STAFF WAS IN A DIFFERENT PLACE.

09:18:19 THE ATTORNEYS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WERE IN A

09:18:22 DIFFERENT PLACE.

09:18:23 I THINK WE SORT OF REACH THE MIDDLE GROUND.

09:18:25 TWO WEEKS IS THAT YOUR MOTION?

09:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 1st OR APRIL 15.

09:18:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I PREFER TWO WEEKS.

09:18:31 LET'S GET IT OVER WITH.

09:18:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 1st.

09:18:38 >>LUIS VIERA: WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS, NO DOUBT.

09:18:41 I THINK AS A COURTESY TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:18:45 HOWEVER, WHEN THE TIME FOR THE AGENDA COMES UP, I WOULD

09:18:50 LIKE TO HAVE A SHORT DISCUSSION ON WHERE WE ALL STAND ON

09:18:53 THIS SO FAR SO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL THE

09:18:56 DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE THINKING AND

09:19:00 WHAT OTHER CONCERNS HAVE GOT TO BE THERE WITHOUT A VOTE

09:19:03 BEING TAKEN.

09:19:04 JUST MY THOUGHT.

09:19:05 SET ASIDE THE TIME INFORMALLY FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES FOR




09:19:16 US TO SAY OUR THOUGHTS ON IT.

09:19:18 THAT'S IT.

09:19:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LATER IN TODAY'S MEETING?

09:19:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

09:19:25 >> [INAUDIBLE] FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS AT THE DIRECTION

09:19:49 OF COUNCIL.

09:19:50 THAT IS NOT A COUNTERPROPOSAL BY THE ADMINISTRATION.

09:19:54 THIS MOTION, THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN DIRECTED BY

09:19:58 COUNCIL, AND ALL DOCUMENTS WE'VE PREPARED HAVE BEEN

09:20:03 RESPONSIVE TO COUNCIL MOTIONS.

09:20:04 THANK YOU.

09:20:06 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND MISSPEAK IN TWO WEEKS.

09:20:09 THANK YOU.

09:20:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

09:20:10 GUDES FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL APRIL 1st UNDER STAFF

09:20:15 REPORTS AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, CORRECT?

09:20:19 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST A QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

09:20:21 SOMEBODY MENTIONED ABOUT THE TAPE RECORDER.

09:20:24 I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED ABOUT THE

09:20:26 TAPE-RECORDED CALLS THAT WE'VE BEEN ADVISED HAVE BEEN

09:20:29 COMING IN.

09:20:31 MADAM CLERK --

09:20:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE VOICE MAILS.

09:20:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, THE VOICE MAILS.

09:20:38 MR. SHELBY, SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE?




09:20:43 HAVE THEY BEEN SEPARATED OUT SO SOME ARE RELATED TO THIS

09:20:48 ITEM AND SOME ARE RELATED TO OTHER ITEMS?

09:20:51 WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT?

09:20:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD ASK MS. LUCAS, THE DEPUTY

09:20:58 CLERK, TO TELL COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC HOW MANY RECORDED

09:21:01 MESSAGES ARE THERE, HAVE THEY BEEN SORTED OUT AND HOW

09:21:04 MANY SPECIFIC FOR 74?

09:21:06 >> YES, SIR.

09:21:07 SULING LUCAS, DEPUTY CITY CLERK.

09:21:08 THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 95 VOICE MAIL MESSAGES.

09:21:10 91 PERTAINING TO ITEM 74.

09:21:13 THEY HAVE BEEN SORTED OUT.

09:21:15 IF YOU PROCEED AND CONTINUE, I CAN DISTRIBUTE THOSE 91

09:21:18 VOICE MAILS TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO

09:21:22 THAT.

09:21:23 IN ADDITION, WE'LL HAVE THE FOUR ADDITIONAL RECORDINGS TO

09:21:26 BE PLAYED AFTER LIVE AND VIRTUAL.

09:21:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE

09:21:33 VOICE MAILS.

09:21:34 >>THE CLERK: CORRECT.

09:21:35 I CAN PLACE IT ON A THUMB DRIVE AND GIVE IT TO EACH

09:21:39 COUNCIL MEMBER.

09:21:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU SEND US AN E-MAIL FILE OR HOW

09:21:44 DOES THAT WORK?

09:21:45 IS IT TOO BIG?




09:21:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS IT CAN BE DONE ELECTRONICALLY IF

09:21:50 WE CAN WORK WITH T & I THROUGH A SECURE DELIVERY SYSTEM

09:21:54 OR DROP BOX THING.

09:21:57 >>THE CLERK: I'LL WORK WITH T & I TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE

09:22:01 OF.

09:22:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOW IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, MR.

09:22:04 SHELBY, TO LISTEN TO THOSE INDIVIDUALLY?

09:22:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR ALTERNATIVE, COUNCIL, IS VERY CLEAR

09:22:11 PER YOUR RULES.

09:22:12 IT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO NOT HEAR THE RECORDING

09:22:17 TODAY AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE CONTINUANCE TO BE

09:22:19 ABLE TO HEAR THEM INDIVIDUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC

09:22:22 HEARING -- EXCUSE ME, THE PUBLIC MEETING TODAY.

09:22:25 HOWEVER, IF YOU DO GO FORWARD OR IF YOU HAD GONE FORWARD

09:22:28 OR INTENDED TO GO FORWARD, THEN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THIS

09:22:34 MIGHT ACTUALLY BE FINAL ACTION YOU WOULD BE TAKEN, YOU

09:22:38 WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HEAR THE 91 VOICE MAILS, RECORDED

09:22:42 VOICE MAILS DURING THE HEARING TODAY.

09:22:45 A CONTINUANCE WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO

09:22:47 BE ABLE TO DO THIS OFF LINE AND NOT AT TODAY'S HEARING.

09:22:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL

09:22:55 RESPONSIBILITY.

09:22:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.

09:22:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:23:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO THOSE VOICE MAILS NEED TO BE RECEIVED




09:23:02 AND FILED?

09:23:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WISH TO DO SO.

09:23:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

09:23:08 GUDES, VIERA HAD THE SECOND.

09:23:10 ALL IN FAVOR TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO APRIL 1st UNDER

09:23:14 STAFF REPORTS SAY AYE.

09:23:15 ANY OPPOSED?

09:23:16 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE SO WE CAN GET

09:23:22 THOSE -- MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:23:24 SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:23:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:23:26 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE

09:23:31 ADDENDUM?

09:23:32 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:23:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:23:35 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:23:36 AYE.

09:23:37 ALL RIGHT.

09:23:39 LET'S GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD.

09:23:41 COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER 1.

09:23:45 WE'LL WAIT FOR HIM TO GO DOWN STAIRS AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH

09:23:49 THAT.

09:24:35 >>LUIS VIERA: FUNNY TO BE SPEAKING HERE.

09:24:37 THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

09:24:38 I APPRECIATE IT.




09:24:40 LUIS VIERA, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HERE TODAY.

09:24:42 WE'RE HERE FOR A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO THE

09:24:46 WONDERFUL MEN AND WOMEN OF THE JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF

09:24:51 AMERICA FOR THEIR 125th ANNIVERSARY.

09:24:53 THIS WAS A MOTION, MR. CHAIR, THAT WAS MADE A YEAR AGO

09:24:57 AND THEN WE LEARNED ON SOMETHING CALLED COVID.

09:25:00 SO WE WANTED TO INVITE AGAIN OUR DEAR FRIENDS WITH THE

09:25:03 JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF AMERICA 373 HERE FOR THIS HONOR.

09:25:07 AND WE HAVE WITH US HERE LARRY JASPER, WHO IS THE

09:25:10 COMMANDER OF POST 373, BRUCE SCHERER, WHO IS THE SENIOR

09:25:14 VICE COMMANDER, STEVE FALKOWITZ, WHO IS THE ADJUTANT OF

09:25:20 POST 373.

09:25:21 JIM MARINIS, SERGEANT AT ARMS.

09:25:23 GEORGI JASPER, THE CHAPLAIN.

09:25:25 JACK RUDOWSKI, WHO IS THE POST COMMANDER.

09:25:28 MO PITINO, WHO IS THE PATRON.

09:25:31 THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS SERVED ARE ATTENDING REMOTELY,

09:25:34 LOU MICHAELS, THE DEPARTMENT COMMANDER, MARILYN McKAY,

09:25:37 A MEMBER, DR. CHARLES SAND, AND THERE YOU GO.

09:25:39 SO WE'RE HERE, SIR, FOR THE 125th ANNIVERSARY OF THE

09:25:44 JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF AMERICA.

09:25:47 ITS LONGTIME TRADITION, AS MANY OF US KNOW, IN THE UNITED

09:25:50 STATES OF AMERICA FOR GROUPS OF AMERICANS WHO SOMETIMES

09:25:54 ARE NOT GIVEN THEIR PROPER RESPECT OR DEFERENCE FROM

09:25:57 THEIR FELLOW AMERICANS TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN




09:26:01 ASPIRATIONAL LEVEL OF PATRIOTISM WHERE THEY SERVE THEIR

09:26:05 COUNTRY AT A TIME WHEN MANY OF THEIR COUNTRY MEN AND

09:26:06 WOMEN DON'T REALLY RECOGNIZE THEIR HUMANITY.

09:26:08 WE SAW THAT WITH THE 54th REGIMENT OF MASSACHUSETTS

09:26:11 DURING THE CIVIL WAR, AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO SERVED FOR

09:26:13 THE UNION DURING THE CIVIL WAR.

09:26:15 SAW THAT WITH 442nd REGIMENT, JAPANESE AMERICANS WHO

09:26:19 SERVED WITH THE REGIMENT AT A TIME WHEN MANY OF THEIR

09:26:22 FAMILY MEMBERS WERE AT HOME, AWAY, AND WHEN FOLKS

09:26:26 WOULDN'T REALLY RECOGNIZE THEIR AMERICANISM.

09:26:29 I BELIEVE THE MOST DECORATED REGIMENT IN UNITED STATES

09:26:32 HISTORY, AND WE CERTAINLY SEE THAT WITH THE JEWISH WAR

09:26:35 VETERANS OF AMERICA IN JEWISH AMERICAN VETERANS

09:26:38 THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY.

09:26:39 THE MISSION OF THE JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF AMERICA FOR 125

09:26:43 YEARS HAS BEEN VERY SIMPLE, TO SUPPORT PATRIOTISM, LOVE

09:26:47 OF COUNTRY AMONG ITS MEMBERS AND AMONG ALL AMERICANS TO

09:26:49 FIGHT ALL FORMS OF PREJUDICE, BIGOTRY, AND ATTACKS UPON

09:26:55 HUMAN DIGNITY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND TO SUPPORT

09:26:56 THE MANY, MANY JEWISH VETERANS WHO SERVE IN THE UNITED

09:26:59 STATES MILITARY AND TO SUPPORT AND HONOR THE HISTORY OF

09:27:01 THE MANY JEWISH AMERICANS WHO SERVED OUR COUNTRY WITH

09:27:06 GREAT VALOR AND GREAT HONOR AND COURAGE THROUGHOUT OUR

09:27:09 COUNTRY'S HISTORY.

09:27:09 WE KNOW THAT IN WORLD WAR II, MR. CHAIR, OVER HALF A




09:27:12 MILLION JEWISH AMERICANS FOUGHT IN THE WAR AGAINST

09:27:15 FASCISM, NAZISM.

09:27:19 WE KNOW THAT IN THE KOREAN WAR, 150,000 JEWISH AMERICANS

09:27:22 SERVED IN THE KOREAN WAR, AND 30,000 JEWISH AMERICANS

09:27:27 WOULD SERVE IN THE VIETNAM WAR.

09:27:29 AND ONWARD TO TODAY, IT IS A TRADITION THAT CONTINUES NOT

09:27:33 ONLY OF SERVICE BUT OF THE JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF AMERICA

09:27:36 HAVING THE BACKS OF THESE JEWISH AMERICANS WHO CONTINUE

09:27:38 TO SERVE US WITH PRIDE AND DISTINCTION, THE UNITED STATES

09:27:42 MILITARY AND ADVOCATE FOR THOSE BEST HISTORIC JEWISH

09:27:45 VALUES OF FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE, THE DIGNITY OF THE

09:27:48 PERSON, TOLERANCE AND RESPECT FOR ALL.

09:27:51 WE KNOW THAT THROUGH SO MANY -- I COULD GET INTO STORIES

09:27:55 OF MEMBERS, PEOPLE LIKE BORIS STEARN AMONG MANY OTHERS

09:28:01 WHO HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF 373 HERE IN TAMPA.

09:28:04 I REMEMBER WHEN I HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE, MAYBE THREE

09:28:06 YEARS AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO, SPEAKING TO THE NATIONAL

09:28:09 CONVENTION HERE IN TAMPA OF THE JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF

09:28:11 AMERICA.

09:28:12 I REMEMBER WHEN I MENTIONED THE NAME TIBOR RUBIN GAVE ME

09:28:18 AN AMEN.

09:28:19 I WANT TO TELL FOLKS OUT THERE WATCHING WHO DON'T KNOW

09:28:22 WHO TIBOR RUBIN IS, MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT GIVEN BY

09:28:25 PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH THE II FOR HIS SERVICE IN KOREA.

09:28:29 IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE, SIR, TO GIVE THIS TAMPA CITY




09:28:32 COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO OUR DEAR FRIENDS AT THE JEWISH

09:28:35 WAR VETERANS OF AMERICA FOR 125 YEARS OF STANDING STRONG

09:28:39 FOR OUR GREAT COUNTRY AND FOR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND

09:28:42 SERVICE TO THE BEST ASPIRATIONAL AMERICAN VALUES.

09:28:45 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:28:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:28:49 [ APPLAUSE ]

09:28:57 >> ON BEHALF OF THE JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF THE UNITED

09:29:10 STATES OF AMERICA AND POST 373 IN TAMPA AND THE STATE OF

09:29:13 FLORIDA, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR

09:29:16 RECOGNIZING OUR SERVICE.

09:29:18 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT HERE IN TAMPA, WE WORK

09:29:21 CLOSELY WITH JAMES A. HALEY VA HOSPITAL AND NATIONALLY,

09:29:26 WE HELP VETERANS REGARDLESS OF RELIGION, RACE, CREED,

09:29:31 ANYTHING.

09:29:31 OUR MAIN PURPOSE TODAY IS TO ASSIST VETERANS, AND THAT'S

09:29:35 WHAT WE DO.

09:29:37 JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, SINCE 9/11, 61 JEWISH AMERICANS HAVE

09:29:41 LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE CONFLICTS, AND 18 JEWISH

09:29:45 AMERICANS HAVE WON THE MEDAL OF HONOR.

09:29:48 ONCE AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION, THANK YOU VERY

09:29:51 MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING US.

09:29:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:29:56 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU SAID IT BEAUTIFULLY.

09:29:59 I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD EVEN ADD TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU




09:30:01 SAID, THE SACRIFICES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE

09:30:04 WORLD WAR II.

09:30:05 WORLD WAR I, EVEN BEFORE BY THESE GREAT AMERICAN HEROES.

09:30:08 AND WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM HERE TODAY AND

09:30:12 HONORING THEM.

09:30:13 WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT.

09:30:15 ANY OTHER COUNCILMEN?

09:30:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:30:21 I KNOW YOU HEAR THAT A LOT BUT I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU

09:30:25 FOR MY FREEDOMS WHICH YOU HAVE FOUGHT FOR.

09:30:28 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:30:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, COUNCILMAN

09:30:30 DINGFELDER.

09:30:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, WHAT YOU

09:30:33 HAVE DONE FOR THE COUNTRY.

09:30:35 WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER, I CALL HIM -- OUR HISTORY BUFFS

09:30:42 OF THIS NATION.

09:30:43 SEE IF I CAN GET MR. VIERA A JOB AT ONE OF THE MUSEUMS SO

09:30:46 HE CAN GO AROUND TELLING ALL THE STORIES BECAUSE HE IS A

09:30:49 GENTLEMAN WHO REALLY, REALLY GETS INTO WHAT THIS COUNTRY

09:30:53 IS ABOUT AND THE FOLKS WHO HAVE SERVED AND THE FOLKS WHO

09:30:57 HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

09:30:58 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

09:31:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:31:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.




09:31:03 THANK YOU, MR. VIERA FOR BRINGING THESE FINE FOLKS HERE

09:31:08 GOT GREAT COMMENDATION.

09:31:09 MY DAD, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW MY DAD,

09:31:13 SIMON DINGFELDER, WAS A JEWISH VETERAN.

09:31:17 MY DAD SERVED, HE WAS ROTC, THEN HE WAS SECOND LIEUTENANT

09:31:22 IN THE ARTILLERY AND SERVED IN EUROPE DURING THE KOREAN

09:31:26 CONFLICT, BUT VERY PROUD OF HIS SERVICE.

09:31:29 I'M VERY PROUD TO BE A LIFELONG MEMBER OF SCHAARAI ZEDEK,

09:31:34 AND I'M PROUD OF EVERYTHING YOU AND THE JEWISH WAR

09:31:37 VETERANS HAVE GIVEN BACK TO OUR COUNTRY.

09:31:41 AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN EXPRESSION IN OUR RELIGION,

09:31:43 MR. SHELBY, AS WELL, TIKKUN OLAM -- TO HEAL THE WORLD.

09:31:49 I THINK YOU FOLKS HAVE ALL DONE YOUR PART AND YOUR

09:31:52 ORGANIZATION HAS DONE YOUR PART TO HEAL THE WORLD.

09:31:55 AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

09:31:56 THANK YOU.

09:31:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:31:57 ALL RIGHT.

09:31:58 THANK YOU.

09:31:58 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

09:32:01 THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:32:02 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 2, A COMMENDATION TO TREVOR WILSON.

09:32:07 THIS IS COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:32:10 IS THE GENTLEMAN HERE IN PERSON? COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL

09:32:15 COME BACK UP AND COUNCILMAN CITRO WILL GO DOWN THERE.




09:32:23 AND THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:32:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO SAVE TIME, YOU COULD HEAD

09:32:58 DOWN TO TWO AND HAVE THE ROLL CALL TAKEN WHEN YOU COME

09:33:01 BACK AND THEN GO ON TO BUSINESS.

09:33:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN THE MEANTIME, LET ME TAKE THIS

09:33:07 OPPORTUNITY TO THANK SULING LUCAS AND THE ENTIRE CLERK'S

09:33:11 OFFICE.

09:33:11 I KNOW YOU HAVE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD, AS YOU ALWAYS DO,

09:33:15 THIS WEEK AND KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU.

09:33:17 WITHOUT ALL OF YOU, WE WOULDN'T BE ORGANIZED.

09:33:22 SO THANK YOU.

09:33:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT A LONG

09:33:29 TIME.

09:33:30 THEY ARE OUR FAMILY IN THIS COUNCIL.

09:33:34 THE WHOLE THIRD FLOOR.

09:33:36 THAT'S WHY WHEN WE DO THINGS, WE MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE

09:33:39 THEM IN ALL OUR FESTIVITIES.

09:33:42 THEY ARE PART OF US.

09:33:44 THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.

09:33:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:33:46 COUNCILMAN CITRO, GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:33:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I TOLD YA I WAS GOING TO EMBARRASS YOU.

09:33:53 CAN YOU SEE THIS PICTURE, COUNCIL?

09:34:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

09:34:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'VE KNOWN THIS YOUNG MAN FOR ALL OF HIS




09:34:09 LIFE.

09:34:09 I GAVE HIM HIS FIRST HAIR CUT, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WAS

09:34:17 HIS LAST HAIR CUT.

09:34:19 THIS YOUNG MAN HAS ACHIEVED WHAT VERY FEW SCOUTS DO.

09:34:33 THIS EAGLE SCOUT WASN'T GIVEN TO HIM AS AN HONOR.

09:34:41 IT WASN'T GIVEN TO HIM AS A PRIVILEGE.

09:34:43 IT WAS GIVEN TO HIM FOR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION.

09:34:51 BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT TEACHES YOUNG SCOUTS LEADERSHIP AND

09:34:59 THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM.

09:35:05 I HAVE SEEN THIS YOUNG MAN GROW UP.

09:35:07 I'VE SEEN HIM DO WELL IN ACADEMICS.

09:35:09 HE'S ALSO A MUSICIAN, BUT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK GREAT ON

09:35:17 HIS LIFETIME PORTFOLIO.

09:35:24 I'M PROUD OF YOU, MY FRIEND.

09:35:26 WELL DONE.

09:35:32 ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE WANT TO OFFER OUR

09:35:39 RECOGNITION AND CONGRATULATIONS IN BECOMING AN EAGLE

09:35:42 SCOUT.

09:35:42 YOU SHOULD BE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THE WELL-EARNED

09:35:47 ACCOMPLISH, DILIGENT, SPIRIT, COMMITMENT TO THE

09:35:50 PRINCIPLES OF BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA, ARE VALUES YOU WILL

09:35:54 TAKE THROUGH WITH YOU THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

09:35:57 BY ATTAINING THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT FIRST AWARDED A

09:36:00 HUNDRED YEARS AGO, YOU HAVE BECOME A PART OF A GREAT

09:36:03 TRADITION OF LEADERSHIP, SERVICE, AND DUTY.




09:36:07 YOU'RE JOINING THE RANKS OF OTHER GREAT EAGLE SCOUTS FROM

09:36:10 FLORIDA, SUCH AS CHARLES EDWARD BENNETT, U.S. CONGRESS'

09:36:15 LONGEST SERVING MEMBER FROM JACKSONVILLE, CARL LANGFORD,

09:36:18 FORMER MAYOR OF ORLANDO, AND U.S. SENATOR AND FORMER

09:36:23 GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

09:36:26 YOU'RE IN GOOD COMPANY, BROTHER.

09:36:28 IT IS AN HONOR FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT THIS

09:36:32 COMMENDATION TO YOU ON THIS DAY, THE 18th OF MARCH,

09:36:36 2021.

09:36:37 AGAIN, I AM SO PROUD OF YOU.

09:36:42 >> THANK YOU.

09:36:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE

09:36:45 TO SAY?

09:36:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.

09:36:47 TO TREVOR WILSON, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ACHIEVEMENT

09:36:51 THROUGH YOUR HARD WORK AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE TO

09:36:54 EARN THIS.

09:36:54 JUST REMEMBER ONE THING, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT,

09:36:56 ANYTHING YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO.

09:36:58 IF ANYBODY TELLS YOU THE SKY IS THE LIMIT, YOU TELL THEM

09:37:01 NEIL ARMSTRONG, THE FIRST MAN TO WALK ON THE MOON WAS

09:37:04 ALSO AN EAGLE SCOUT.

09:37:05 DON'T LET THAT STOP YOU THERE.

09:37:07 AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.

09:37:08 ANYBODY ELSE?




09:37:09 COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:37:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON

09:37:15 THIS GREAT AWARD AND HONOR.

09:37:16 BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT IS A BIG DEAL.

09:37:19 IT IS THE NAVY SEALS OF SCOUTING, AND IT'S A REALLY BIG

09:37:23 DEAL.

09:37:23 I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE EAGLE SCOUTS ARE ALWAYS PROUD

09:37:26 OF IT ALL THEIR LIVES, AND THAT INCLUDES THE SONS OF

09:37:30 EAGLE SCOUTS.

09:37:30 I SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S LATE

09:37:34 FATHER WAS A PROUD EAGLE SCOUT.

09:37:36 GOD BLESS HIM.

09:37:37 THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING AND ALL THAT YOU'RE

09:37:39 GONNA DO, BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT LEAVES WITH IT A BIG

09:37:44 LEGACY.

09:37:45 THANK YOU.

09:37:46 >> THANK YOU.

09:37:47 THANK YOU.

09:37:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. WILSON, CONGRATULATIONS TODAY.

09:37:50 ANYTIME YOU RECEIVE AN ACCOLADE, IT IS THE MOST PRECIOUS

09:37:56 THING YOU CAN GET BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE YOUR WORK, YOUR

09:37:59 DEDICATION AND BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT, YOUR LEADERSHIP.

09:38:03 AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AWARD.

09:38:05 >> THANK YOU.

09:38:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




09:38:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, MR. CHAIR, I THINK HE REALLY

09:38:12 NEEDS TO ALSO RECOGNIZE HIS FAMILY THAT HELPED HIM OUT IN

09:38:15 THIS.

09:38:15 >> YES, I'D LIKE TO THANK MY FAMILY BEHIND ME.

09:38:18 I HAVE MY MOM, MY BROTHER, AND MY DAD.

09:38:22 THEY HAVE REALLY HELPED ME PUSH THROUGH AND GET THE RANK

09:38:28 OF EAGLE SCOUT.

09:38:29 IT'S A BIG DEAL, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO ON YOUR OWN.

09:38:33 I REALLY COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THEM.

09:38:35 THEY REALLY PUSHED ME TO DO BETTER AND WORK HARDER EVERY

09:38:38 SINGLE DAY.

09:38:39 I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM FOR THAT.

09:38:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

09:38:46 THANK YOU.

09:38:46 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:38:47 [ APPLAUSE ]

09:38:48 ALL RIGHT.

09:38:56 THAT SETTLES COMMENDATIONS.

09:38:58 WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:38:59 WE'RE GOING TO SANITIZE THE LECTERN AFTER EACH AND EVERY

09:39:02 SPEAKER JUST FOR EVERYONE'S SAFETY.

09:39:06 IF YOU ARE HERE IN PERSON AND WISH TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM

09:39:08 ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:39:14 >>LUIS VIERA: I FORGOT TO SAY THIS.

09:39:16 I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN OUR




09:39:18 VIEWERSHIP IS HIGHEST RIGHT NOW, JUST TO SHOW IF YOU GO

09:39:21 TO THE POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION OFFICES ON BUSCH

09:39:26 BOULEVARD, YOU CAN PICK UP THESE T-SHIRTS THAT HONOR THE

09:39:30 LATE OFFICER JESSE MADSEN.

09:39:32 THEY ARE $20 EACH.

09:39:33 THE FUNDS GO TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY.

09:39:37 I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THAT VERY IMPORTANT

09:39:40 CAUSE.

09:39:41 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:39:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:39:44 FIRST SPEAKER, COME TO THE KIOSK.

09:39:58 STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:40:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW THAT COUNCILMAN CITRO HAS REJOINED,

09:40:04 CAN WE ASK THE CLERK TO TAKE THE ROLL AND CONFIRM AGAIN

09:40:06 THERE IS A PHYSICAL QUORUM?

09:40:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL FOR THE RECORD.

09:40:10 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

09:40:11 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

09:40:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:40:14 >> CARLSON?

09:40:14 DINGFELDER?

09:40:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

09:40:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:40:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:40:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.




09:40:23 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:40:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

09:40:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:40:27 CAROL GORDON.

09:40:35 >> HI.

09:40:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE

09:40:37 RECORD.

09:40:38 WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

09:40:40 >> I'M CAROL GORDON.

09:40:42 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS EAST NEIGHBORHOOD

09:40:44 ASSOCIATION.

09:40:46 THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US THIS TIME TO SPEAK ON

09:40:52 BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

09:40:53 WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT A PROPOSED PROJECT BY THE CITY OF

09:40:58 TAMPA WHICH WILL BE COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND

09:41:02 LOCATED ON HANNA AVENUE.

09:41:05 FOR THOSE -- AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

09:41:07 WE LOVE THE IDEA THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS LOOKED AT OUR

09:41:12 AREA, THAT THEY FEEL LIKE IT IS A GOOD PLACE TO BE.

09:41:15 WE WORKED HARD FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS TO BE RECOGNIZED AS

09:41:19 A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND BE RECOGNIZED AS A

09:41:23 NEIGHBORHOOD, A PART OF TAMPA, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN

09:41:24 IGNORED FOR MANY YEARS, ESPECIALLY FOR ANYTHING POSITIVE

09:41:28 COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:41:29 SO WE ARE EXCITED.




09:41:32 OF COURSE, COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRINGING 500

09:41:36 PLUS EMPLOYEES AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE

09:41:39 GOING TO AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:41:42 WE ONLY HAVE TWO CROSS STREETS BETWEEN OUR BOUNDARIES,

09:41:46 AND THEY GO EAST AND WEST.

09:41:48 THERE'S NO OTHER NORTH AND SOUTH, 22nd AND 30th,

09:41:52 HILLSBOROUGH, SLIGH, HANNA, AND HENRY.

09:41:55 SO WHEN THEY ARE ON HANNA, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF

09:41:58 TRAFFIC.

09:41:59 WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO CALM

09:42:03 SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS

09:42:08 HAPPY WITH IT.

09:42:09 IT COULD MEAN HAVING A FOOD COURT IN THE BUILDING, HAVING

09:42:14 FOOD TRUCKS COME IN, SOMETHING THAT WOULD KEEP THE PEOPLE

09:42:17 THERE SO THAT THEY ARE NOT OUT DURING THE DAY GOING BACK

09:42:20 AND FORTH TO LUNCH AND CREATING MORE PROBLEMS AND MORE

09:42:25 TRAFFIC.

09:42:28 WE HAVE SOME STREETS THAT ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR.

09:42:31 WE'VE KIND OF BEEN LET GO FOR A LONG TIME.

09:42:35 SO BY HAVING THE CITY COME WITH US, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN

09:42:39 REVITALIZE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, REVITALIZE OUR STREETS.

09:42:43 THIS WOULD REALLY BE AN ASSET FOR US.

09:42:46 IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A PROPERTY, MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE

09:42:50 KNOWN THAT WE WERE HERE WITH A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE

09:42:53 ASKING YOU TO NOT CHANGE THE VARIANCE FOR A PROPERTY




09:42:58 THAT'S IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, AN EMPTY LOT.

09:43:00 AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IS HAVING THAT TO

09:43:02 BECOME LIKE A NATURE PARK.

09:43:04 SO MAYBE WHEN WE'RE BRINGING ALL THESE OTHER VEHICLES AND

09:43:08 VEHICLE EMISSIONS, THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT THE

09:43:12 TREES AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:43:13 WE HAVE VERY LIMITED GREENSPACE.

09:43:15 SO WE COULD UTILIZE THAT LOCATION, THE CITY COULD PERHAPS

09:43:20 PURCHASE THAT LOCATION.

09:43:21 MAKE IT A NATURE PARK.

09:43:22 THERE IS A BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO IT THAT'S VACANT.

09:43:25 MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THAT AS A VISITOR'S CENTER, THAT WOULD

09:43:29 ENHANCE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, KEEP IT GREEN FOR THE CITY OF

09:43:33 TAMPA'S TREE CITY USA.

09:43:38 PERHAPS INCORPORATE IT INTO THE BIKE PATH, THE TRAIL

09:43:41 THAT'S GOING THROUGH, THAT THOSE BICYCLISTS COULD COME IN

09:43:45 AND STOP AT THE NATURE PARK, USE THE FACILITIES, HAVE

09:43:50 SOME RESPITE AND THEN BE ON THE TRAIL AGAIN.

09:43:53 IT WOULD WORK WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY OF

09:43:56 TAMPA WHILE WE'RE DEVELOPING BUILDINGS AND PUTTING THEM

09:43:59 INTO AREAS, LET'S ALSO ADD TO THE NATURE PART OF IT, ADD

09:44:04 TO THE GREENERY.

09:44:05 SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS CAN BE A REALLY GOOD THING FOR ALL

09:44:09 OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

09:44:12 I THINK EVERYBODY WILL THEN KNOW WHERE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS




09:44:14 EAST IS IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS

09:44:18 LOCATED THERE, BASICALLY.

09:44:20 SO I THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:44:23 I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

09:44:24 WE DIDN'T BRING THE BIG GROUP TODAY.

09:44:27 WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME, AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY

09:44:29 DURING THE PLANNING.

09:44:31 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE A PART OF IT.

09:44:33 SO THAT WHEN THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING THERE, WE KNOW

09:44:36 WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

09:44:37 THIS IS KIND OF FAST FOR US, BUT WE'RE HERE TODAY AND WE

09:44:41 HAVE OTHERS TO SPEAK AS WELL.

09:44:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:44:44 >> THANK YOU.

09:44:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:44:45 MR. KEYPORTS, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SPEAKING AS WELL OR

09:44:50 MS. ARNOLD?

09:44:51 WE'RE GOING TO SANITIZE AFTER EACH SPEAKER.

09:44:54 WHEN WE ASK THAT IT IS ONE PERSON IN THE KIOSK AT A TIME.

09:44:59 JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S SAFETY.

09:45:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN I TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REFRESH

09:45:14 COUNCIL'S RECOLLECTION AND BRING TO THE PUBLIC'S

09:45:16 ATTENTION, COUNCIL'S RULES REGARDING PUBLIC

09:45:20 PARTICIPATION.

09:45:21 I'M GOING TO BE READING NOW FROM RULES 5F AND 5G.




09:45:28 RULE 5F READS AS FOLLOWS: SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM

09:45:33 DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR

09:45:37 THREATENING REMARKS.

09:45:38 SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING PERSONAL ATTACKS

09:45:41 AGAINST ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER

09:45:44 OF PUBLIC AND COMMENTS SHALL BE DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL

09:45:46 AS A BODY AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

09:45:49 RULE 5G SAYS, NO ONE PRESENT DURING A COUNCIL MEETING

09:45:53 SHALL ENGAGE IN DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING

09:45:57 INTENTIONALLY MAKING OR CAUSING TO BE MADE ANY DISRUPTIVE

09:45:59 SOUND OR NOISE OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS IN A

09:46:04 MANNER DISRUPTIVE TO THE PROCEEDINGS.

09:46:06 THANK YOU.

09:46:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:46:08 YES, MA'AM.

09:46:09 GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:46:10 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

09:46:12 >> HI.

09:46:12 GOOD MORNING.

09:46:12 MY NAME IS SUSAN MORGAN ARNOLD.

09:46:15 AND I AM HERE FROM GRACEPOINT AS WELL AS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS

09:46:19 EAST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

09:46:20 I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON AGENDA ITEM 61 AND 62.

09:46:25 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE ON BEHALF OF GRACEPOINT THAT

09:46:28 OUR SUPPORT IN FAVOR OF THE CITY IN EXPLORING THE OPTIONS




09:46:32 OF MOVING SOME OF THE CITY'S SERVICES INTO A

09:46:35 NEIGHBORHOOD, INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAVE FULL

09:46:39 CONFIDENCE THAT THE CITY WILL WORK WITH NOT JUST

09:46:41 GRACEPOINT BUT ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUR

09:46:44 NEIGHBORS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING THAT CAN

09:46:47 MAKE THE WHOLE CITY STAND OUT AND WILL REPRESENT OUR

09:46:51 NEIGHBORHOOD WELL AND PERHAPS EVEN ENHANCE THE SERVICES

09:46:55 THAT WE CAN OFFER CITY CITIZENS AT THIS TIME.

09:46:58 WE WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL AS MANY OF

09:47:02 YOU CAN REMEMBER, GRACEPOINT HAS INVESTED OVER $50

09:47:04 MILLION IN RECENT YEARS ENHANCING OUR CAMPUS WITHIN

09:47:08 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

09:47:09 SO WE'RE EXCITED THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE

09:47:12 INVESTING INTO THIS AREA.

09:47:14 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY

09:47:18 TO FURTHER EXPLORE HOW WE CAN MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA

09:47:20 BETTER.

09:47:21 THANK YOU.

09:47:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:47:23 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT

09:47:27 SPEAKER.

09:47:45 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:47:46 MY NAME IS TIM KEYPORTS.

09:47:48 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS

09:47:50 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE




09:47:52 HEIGHTS URBAN CORE CHAMBER.

09:47:54 AND AS BOTH CAROL AND SUSAN COMMENTED, WE ARE VERY

09:48:00 EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO RELOCATE PORTIONS OF THE

09:48:05 RESOURCES THAT TAMPA HAS BOTH WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT

09:48:09 DOWNTOWN AND OTHER CITY SERVICES OUT INTO THE SEMINOLE

09:48:12 HEIGHTS EAST AREA.

09:48:14 OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ABUTS THIS LOCATION, BOTH ON THE

09:48:18 WEST, THE EAST, AND THE NORTH, SO I REACHED OUT TO A

09:48:22 NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS IN MY AREA AS WELL AS RESIDENTS

09:48:26 WHO LIVE DIRECTLY ON HANNA OR IMMEDIATELY OFF HANNA.

09:48:31 AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP REPEATEDLY

09:48:34 IS THE TRAFFIC.

09:48:36 VERY CONCERNED THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXTENSIVE,

09:48:40 ENGAGED TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE COMPLETED.

09:48:44 AND MY RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 62 IS NOT TO

09:48:47 APPROVE THE FULL $6.2 MILLION, BUT TO BREAK A PORTION OF

09:48:51 THAT OUT AND CONDUCT THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT

09:48:54 THIS IS A TRULY VIABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO MOVE

09:48:59 FORWARD ON PRIOR TO EXECUTING THE FULL STUDY AND THE

09:49:03 REQUIREMENT FOR THE 6.2 MILLION.

09:49:06 I BELIEVE A TRAFFIC STUDY THROUGH JEAN DUNCAN'S

09:49:10 DEPARTMENT COULD BE DONE AT A MUCH LOWER COST, AND AS

09:49:13 CAROL WAS POINTING OUT, THAT IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN.

09:49:17 SO SPECIFICALLY MONA ROBERSON LIVING IN THE 1200 BLOCK OF

09:49:22 HANNA IS REQUESTING A HANNA AND 12th STREET FOUR-WAY




09:49:25 STOP.

09:49:26 RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU GO EASTBOUND FROM NEBRASKA OUT TO THE

09:49:29 SITE, THERE IS NO TRAFFIC CALMING OR STOPS BETWEEN HANNA

09:49:34 AND 15th STREET.

09:49:35 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, NEBRASKA IS ROUGHLY 8th STREET, IF

09:49:39 THAT STILL EXISTED.

09:49:42 TRAFFIC MOVES VERY QUICKLY ALL THE WAY TO 15th, WHICH

09:49:44 IS A LONG-STANDING FOUR-WAY STOP.

09:49:48 THERE IS A RELATIVELY NEW FOUR-WAY STOP AT 19th STREET,

09:49:51 DEMONSTRATING THE NEED FOR INCREASED TRAFFIC CONTROL ON

09:49:54 HANNA.

09:49:54 THAT WAS INSTALLED WHEN THE NEW WALMART WAS PUT IN AT

09:49:58 ROUGHLY 19th AND HILLSBOROUGH.

09:50:00 SO, AGAIN, FULL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE POPULATION THAT LIVES

09:50:04 IN THE AREA ON THE TRAFFIC IS THE PRIMARY ASK AND

09:50:11 REQUEST.

09:50:11 AS FAR AS THE FACILITY ITSELF, IF APPROVED, AND WE MOVE

09:50:14 FORWARD AS A CITY ON THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE

09:50:20 SOME COMMUNITY ROOMS AVAILABLE IN THE EVENING FOR

09:50:22 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO USE, DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT

09:50:26 MIGHT HAVE A NEED FOR SPACE, FOR MEETING SPACE, A NUMBER

09:50:31 OF THE LIBRARIES HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BEEN RENOVATED TO

09:50:34 FACILITATE MEETING SPACE.

09:50:36 A COFFEE SHOP ON-SITE WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT ADD.

09:50:40 SOMETHING LIKE THE PORTICO DOWNTOWN THAT WOULD PROVIDE




09:50:43 SOME ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT AS WELL AS THE 500 PLUS

09:50:48 EMPLOYEES FROM NOT MAKING MULTIPLE TRIPS A DAY TO RUN

09:50:51 OUT.

09:50:51 CAROL MENTIONED AN ON-SITE QUICK BITE RESTAURANT, IF

09:50:55 SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS VIABLE, WE WOULD RECOMMEND A

09:50:58 LOCAL RESTAURANT FROM THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AREA BE

09:51:01 SELECTED IN A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

09:51:03 WE THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A REALLY GOOD NOD TO THE LOCAL

09:51:07 CHAMBER'S DESIRE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR AREA.

09:51:10 MOVING THE HEADQUARTERS OF TPD DIRECTLY INTO SEMINOLE

09:51:14 HEIGHTS IS A POSITIVE AND A NEGATIVE.

09:51:17 WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE TALK TO THE

09:51:20 CITIZENS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THE INCREASED

09:51:22 POLICE PRESENCE, BUT NOT TO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT THIS IS

09:51:26 SOMETHING THAT IS ADDING ADDITIONAL EYES ON THE

09:51:29 RESIDENTS.

09:51:30 AND WE KNOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT IT'S THE ENGAGEMENT

09:51:34 WITH THE PUBLIC THAT IS CRITICAL TO MAKE SURE THAT

09:51:36 HAPPENS PROPERLY.

09:51:37 A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS WE WOULD SUGGEST.

09:51:41 THERE IS THE CSX RAIL LINE.

09:51:44 LONG, LONG TERM, SHOULD THE CITY CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD

09:51:47 WITH ACTUAL TRANSIT ON RAIL, CERTAINLY HAVING A CITY

09:51:51 CENTER RIGHT NEXT TO AND ABUTTING A RAIL LINE THAT THE

09:51:55 CITY MAY SOMEDAY OWN WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO




09:51:59 REALLY KICK-START RAIL AND A TRANSIT STOP TO ALLOW THE

09:52:05 EMPLOYEES TO GET THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE ON SLIGH,

09:52:08 HANNA, HILLSBOROUGH, AND THOSE OTHER STREETS THAT WERE

09:52:11 MENTIONED EARLIER.

09:52:12 I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT 22nd STREET WHEN YOU GO

09:52:16 NORTH FROM THE SITE UP TO SLIGH, IT SORT OF DEAD ENDS AND

09:52:19 YOU HAVE BOTH AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL.

09:52:22 SLIGH MIDDLE AND FOSTER ELEMENTARY RIGHT ON THOSE

09:52:26 CORNERS.

09:52:26 THAT IS A SERIOUS CONCERN.

09:52:31 AS WE ALL KNOW, EVERYBODY IS IN RUSH TO GET TO WORK, FROM

09:52:32 WORK, OUT TO LUNCH, BACK, COFFEE, DOCTOR APPOINTMENTS,

09:52:35 ET CETERA.

09:52:35 ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS AN ON-SITE WELLNESS CENTER AS

09:52:40 AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT HIGH EXPENSE, THERE'S NO REASON

09:52:42 NOT TO PARTNER WITH TAMPA GENERAL CLINIC, WHICH IS

09:52:44 IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST.

09:52:46 AGAIN, A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM FOR ALL OF

09:52:49 THE CITY EMPLOYEES TO HAVE THOSE WELLNESS APPOINTMENTS

09:52:52 WITHOUT HAVING TO TRAVEL OUT OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

09:52:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:52:57 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

09:53:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND WE'LL

09:53:03 HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER.

09:53:04 GO AHEAD.




09:53:40 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:53:41 >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.

09:53:44 I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION

09:53:47 WHICH HAS TAKEN A VOTE TO ALLOW US TO REPRESENT THEM.

09:53:50 SHAWN BROWN IS NEXT.

09:53:51 ANYWAY, I SENT UP A PACKET.

09:53:55 I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS ONE.

09:53:57 ESPECIALLY MY FAVORITE CITY COUNCILMAN.

09:53:59 WHY AM I HERE STANDING HERE TODAY?

09:54:04 WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE POSTPONED OUR AGENDA ITEM.

09:54:08 BUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO STOP THE INVASION OF SOG BY THE

09:54:18 MONSTER APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION

09:54:20 FROM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

09:54:21 FROM THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN FOR THE

09:54:24 LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THE POOR ROAD CONDITIONS, PACKED

09:54:27 SCHOOLS, CONCERNS FOR HURRICANE, NATIONAL EMERGENCY,

09:54:31 INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENT EVACUATIONS, AND THAT WE ARE THE ONLY

09:54:36 ROAD TO THE ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT IS MACDILL AIR FORCE

09:54:39 BASE.

09:54:40 22,000 PEOPLE WORK AT THAT FACILITY.

09:54:43 DO WE KNOW HOW TO FIX IT?

09:54:47 HONESTLY, NO, WE DON'T.

09:54:48 WHY?

09:54:50 BECAUSE WE STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AS NOVICES.

09:54:54 AND ANY OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE THOSE CHANGES, WE DON'T




09:54:57 HAVE MONEY.

09:54:59 WE DON'T HAVE EXPERTISE IN LAND USE, LEGAL OR CITY

09:55:03 PLANNING.

09:55:06 WE, WITH THE RED SHIRTS AND BIG MOUTHS, ARE SHOWCASED BY

09:55:09 DEVELOPERS AS IGNORANT FEW WHO HAVE AN ISSUE WHEN NO ONE

09:55:14 ELSE DOES.

09:55:15 I WOULD THINK THE SUBMISSIONS FOR THIS MEETING TODAY

09:55:18 WOULD SHOW YOU DIFFERENTLY.

09:55:20 WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT, BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO AGREE ON HOW TO

09:55:25 GET IT FOR US.

09:55:26 STOP OVERBUILDING SOG WITH MONSTER APARTMENTS.

09:55:31 WE HAVE 13 ITEMS ON OUR LIST.

09:55:35 I HAVE SUPPLIED THAT LIST TO YOU.

09:55:36 SOME SUGGESTED BY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.

09:55:39 OTHERS WE PICKED UP ALONG THE WAY.

09:55:41 BUT TODAY, WE'D LIKE TO CONCENTRATE ON THE BIG IDEAS.

09:55:46 WE WANT TO MAKE THE CHANGES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND

09:55:49 THE LAND USE TO FIX IT.

09:55:51 ONE, ELIMINATE FAR.

09:55:53 TWO, 10% MIXED USE WHEN PRESENTED AS MIXED USE.

09:55:58 DENSITY IN THE CHHA MODELED AFTER THE UNINCORPORATED

09:56:02 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLAN.

09:56:03 I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THAT AS WELL.

09:56:05 ANYTHING OVER 20 UNITS EXPAND THE NOTIFICATION TO 1,000

09:56:09 FEET PLUS WITH STANDING, PLEASE.




09:56:12 BRING BACK THE SITE PLANS BEING DELIVERED TO OUR

09:56:16 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

09:56:17 HOW DO WE GET THERE?

09:56:20 WELL, STAFF FIRST RECOMMEND A MORATORIUM ON OCTOBER THE

09:56:23 22nd.

09:56:24 THEN THEY TOOK IT BACK ON DECEMBER THE 3rd.

09:56:27 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER PUSHED AHEAD WITH IT ANYWAY.

09:56:30 I AGREE WITH THIS, BUT CITY STAFF HAS HAD TWO TO THREE

09:56:33 MONTHS TO WORK ON THINGS DURING THAT TIME.

09:56:36 WHAT DID THEY GET DONE?

09:56:37 THEY TOOK AWAY OUR SITE PLANS AND NEIGHBORHOOD

09:56:42 NOTIFICATIONS.

09:56:43 THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

09:56:44 WE'RE NOT AT ZERO.

09:56:45 WE'RE AT NEGATIVE ONE.

09:56:46 NOW WE STAND HERE WITH A NON-MORATORIUM, MORATORIUM THAT

09:56:51 WE DON'T EVEN LIKE, BUT WHEN WE ASKED STAFF TO SHARE

09:56:55 IDEAS ON AN ALTERNATIVE, WE GOT CRICKETS.

09:56:59 WHAT DO WE WANT?

09:57:00 STOP OVERBUILDING SOG WITH MONSTER APARTMENTS.

09:57:03 I AM SURE THERE IS A SOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEM, BUT NO ONE

09:57:06 HAS OFFERED ANYTHING BETTER THAN A NON-MORATORIUM

09:57:09 MORATORIUM.

09:57:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:57:11 ALL RIGHT.




09:57:15 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER.

09:57:19 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:57:33 >> MY NAME IS SHAWN BROWN, THE PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY

09:57:36 CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

09:57:37 AS STEPHANIE MENTIONED, WE DID GET THE NEW MEMBERS TO

09:57:42 APPROVE US TO BE HERE TODAY AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE

09:57:44 ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS JUST OURSELVES AS CONCERNED

09:57:47 CITIZENS.

09:57:48 THAT BEING SAID, LOOK, OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS GOT 91 VOICE

09:57:54 MAIL MESSAGES ON THE SUBJECT, NUMBER 74, WHICH IS

09:57:57 POSTPONED TILL APRIL 1st.

09:57:59 BUT STILL WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ISSUES AND

09:58:02 PRESENT WHY THIS IS NOT NEW.

09:58:05 NONE OF THESE ISSUES ARE NEW.

09:58:07 AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS A

09:58:11 CONCERN IS BECAUSE BACK TO JANUARY 26th -- HOPEFULLY

09:58:16 YOU CAN SEE THIS.

09:58:17 I'M NOT SURE.

09:58:17 JANUARY 26th, 2007, TINDALE-OLIVER DID A GANDY AREA

09:58:24 TRANSPORTATION STUDY AS COMMISSIONED BY THE CITY.

09:58:26 AND THIS STUDY RIGHT HERE SHOWED HOW THE ISSUES CURRENTLY

09:58:32 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW ARE NOTHING NEW.

09:58:35 THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S BEEN 14 YEARS SINCE THE STUDY HAS

09:58:38 BEEN DONE.

09:58:38 THE THING IS, NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO IMPROVE THIS.




09:58:42 ONE OF THE THINGS IT SAYS RIGHT HERE ON THIS PAGE, CITY

09:58:44 OF TAMPA SCHEDULED IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA BUT

09:58:47 INADEQUATE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PLANNED TRAFFIC GROWTH.

09:58:50 IT TALKS ABOUT THIS.

09:58:51 THE FOUR THINGS RIGHT HERE HAVE NOT BEEN DONE IN 14

09:58:55 YEARS, YET EVEN 14 YEARS AGO IT SAYS IT STILL WASN'T

09:59:00 GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR THE INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT.

09:59:01 IN ADDITION, IT SAYS THE CITY MUST AGREE UPON FOR A

09:59:05 SUBSTANTIAL AND COSTLY IMPROVEMENTS.

09:59:07 AND AT THE SAME TOKEN, IT TALKS MORE ABOUT THE CHARACTER

09:59:11 TO MAKE THE PLAN EFFECTIVE.

09:59:13 CHARACTER, INTENSITY, LOCATION, ALL THAT STUFF NEEDS TO

09:59:17 BE ACTUALLY PUT IN AND COMMITTED, ESPECIALLY SUPPORTING

09:59:21 TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

09:59:22 CURRENT COMP PLAN IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THAT.

09:59:25 IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

09:59:26 IN ADDITION, THIS REPORT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE ROADWAY

09:59:32 NETWORKS AND THE IMPACT AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE SAFETY

09:59:35 AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

09:59:36 I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW FROM INTERSECTIONS DOWN

09:59:38 THERE LIKE PEARL AND MANHATTAN, THE AMOUNT OF ACCIDENTS

09:59:41 THAT OCCUR THERE.

09:59:42 THEN ANOTHER THING, TOO, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

09:59:46 THE ROADWAYS AT THE TIME DOWN THERE IN 2007, IT SHOWS

09:59:50 DALE MABRY AND WESTSHORE BOTH AT ALMOST 100% CAPACITY 14




09:59:54 YEARS AGO.

09:59:55 ALL THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE 14

09:59:57 YEARS, YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO IMPROVE EITHER ONE OF

10:00:01 THOSE ROADS AND MANHATTAN HAS SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED.

10:00:04 THIS ONE RIGHT HERE TALKS ABOUT THE IMPACTS AND HOW

10:00:06 MANHATTAN AVENUE IS GOING TO HAVE INCREASED GROWTH,

10:00:10 ESPECIALLY HERE FROM 12,000 TO 30,000 RIGHT THERE.

10:00:13 NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

10:00:15 SO THE THING IS, THE RESOLUTION SPECIFIES RIGHT HERE HOW

10:00:19 THE ROADWAYS, TRANSPORTATION SERVICE RIGHT HERE, THAT'S

10:00:24 THE REASON WHY RESOLUTION RIGHT HERE IS TIEING INTO THAT.

10:00:27 THAT'S GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU AND SPOKEN ON APRIL 1st.

10:00:31 THE CITY HAS KNOWN ABOUT THIS 14 YEARS, THAT STUDY HAS

10:00:34 BEEN THERE.

10:00:35 NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO IMPROVE ANYTHING DOWN THERE, AT

10:00:37 ALL.

10:00:38 YET ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS BEEN ALLOWED TO OCCUR.

10:00:41 SO THAT IS CREATING A HUGE PROBLEM.

10:00:44 LOOK, AT THIS POINT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE CAN IS BEING

10:00:49 KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.

10:00:50 I'VE GOT TO SAY, IF YOU WENT TO YOUR DOCTOR AND YOUR

10:00:53 DOCTOR SAID YOU HAVE CANCER, NOT JUST KICK THE TREATMENT

10:00:56 DOWN THE ROAD, I'LL WAIT FIVE, TEN YEARS AND COME BACK

10:00:59 AND DEAL WITH IT LATER.

10:01:00 ODDS ARE YOU WON'T BE ALIVE THEN TO EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE




10:01:04 TREATMENT.

10:01:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:01:05 >> THANK YOU, GUYS.

10:01:06 APPRECIATE IT.

10:01:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:01:08 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND TAKE THE NEXT SPEAKER.

10:01:11 YES, MA'AM.

10:01:37 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:01:38 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:01:39 MY NAME IS MS. ALTHEA WYNN, AND I AM WITH THE NORTHEAST

10:01:44 NEIGHBORHOOD CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

10:01:46 I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE HANNA PROJECT COMING TO OUR

10:01:54 COMMUNITY.

10:01:55 I FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS

10:01:59 OPPORTUNITY.

10:02:01 MS. MIRAY HOLMES ASKED ME TO COME AND SHE ASKED IF I WAS

10:02:06 RELATED TO OCEA WYNN.

10:02:08 I'M SURE YOU KNOW HER.

10:02:10 NOT THAT WE ARE AWARE OF, WE'RE NOT RELATED.

10:02:13 BUT WHO KNOWS, BECAUSE I FOUND OUT WE DO HAVE FAMILY

10:02:16 MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN THE SAME AREA OF NORTH FLORIDA.

10:02:19 ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO

10:02:24 REPRESENT MY COMMUNITY.

10:02:26 I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO KNOW OF

10:02:31 THIS DEVELOPMENT.




10:02:33 IT'S A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT.

10:02:35 I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS I'VE DONE RESEARCH ABOUT THE

10:02:37 PROJECT, THE ONE AREA THAT REALLY TOUCHED ME IS IN THE

10:02:42 AREA OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING THAT WOULD

10:02:47 LEAD OUR NEIGHBORS TO CAREER PATHS.

10:02:51 MANY OF THE CITIZENS, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE TO

10:02:56 THE RESOURCES TO HELP THEM HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, TO HAVE A

10:03:01 KEY TO OPEN DOORS, AND THEY MAY NOT WANT TO GO TO

10:03:05 COLLEGE.

10:03:06 NOT EVERYONE HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COLLEGE, BUT

10:03:08 TO GET A SKILL QUICKLY, A TRAINING WITHIN MONTHS, LESS

10:03:14 THAN A YEAR, THAT IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO

10:03:19 BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES AND TO BE

10:03:24 CONTRIBUTING CITIZENS.

10:03:25 AND WE NEED THIS IN EAST TAMPA.

10:03:27 THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS,

10:03:32 AND JUST IMAGINE, ENVISIONING THE BEAUTY THAT COULD COME

10:03:37 FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

10:03:38 SO WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN PARTNERING AND BEING AT THE

10:03:42 TABLE TO HAVE -- TO HEAR OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND TO OFFER

10:03:48 IDEAS, WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED.

10:03:51 WE SAY THUMBS UP.

10:03:52 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR WANTING

10:03:54 TO COME TO EAST TAMPA.

10:03:56 MR. CARR IS ALSO GOING TO SPEAK FROM RIVER GROVE




10:04:00 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

10:04:01 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

10:04:03 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

10:04:04 MY NAME IS KEVIN CARR.

10:04:05 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF RIVER GROVE.

10:04:08 I MET MR. GUDES BEFORE.

10:04:10 GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

10:04:13 MIRAY HOLMES ASKED ME TO COME DOWN AGAIN.

10:04:15 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

10:04:17 MY COLLEAGUE, MY FRIEND, I LIVE IN THE AREA.

10:04:20 I DO FEEL THAT THE GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY THAT IS COMING

10:04:23 IS A GREAT ONE.

10:04:24 I DO WANT TO VOICE THAT I DO WANT RESEARCH AND

10:04:29 OPPORTUNITIES TO BE LOOKED AT FOR EVERYONE.

10:04:31 I DO THINK IT'S A GREAT AREA AND IT'S ABOUT TIME FOR

10:04:34 GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN TO THIS QUADRANT OF THE

10:04:37 CITY.

10:04:37 I MOVED THERE ON PURPOSE BECAUSE MOVING FROM NEW YORK

10:04:41 FIVE YEARS AGO, I WANTED TO BE IN AN AREA THAT WAS

10:04:44 DIVERSE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS CLOSE TO THE CITY BUT ALSO

10:04:46 TO THE AIRPORT.

10:04:47 I OWN TWO BUSINESSES, SO I COME IN AND OUT OF THE CITY

10:04:51 QUITE A BIT.

10:04:51 MY INTEREST IS MAKING SURE THAT THE DEI CONCERNS

10:04:54 DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION IN TERMS OF THE VENDORS,




10:04:59 PROJECTS, BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES GO TO PEOPLE WHO

10:05:00 QUALIFY, OF COURSE, BUT ALSO ARE DIVERSE AND BUILDING

10:05:04 OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION, IN

10:05:07 TERMS OF ONGOING JOB TRAINING, AS WELL AS FUTURE

10:05:12 OPPORTUNITIES WHERE FUTURE GROWTH IS.

10:05:14 I WANT TO STAY CONNECTED TO THE PROJECT ALL THE WAY

10:05:16 THROUGH.

10:05:16 I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE ALSO ENVIRONMENTAL

10:05:20 STUDIES IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IMPACT THE AREA WILL HAVE.

10:05:24 ALSO, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, ALSO SOME OF THE AREAS IN

10:05:27 TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE QUALITY OF THE

10:05:30 CONSTRUCTION, TO REALLY BEAUTIFY THE AREA, ALSO TO MAKE

10:05:33 SURE THAT THE STUFF THAT'S PUT INTO THE COMMUNITY IN

10:05:36 TERMS OF THE BUILDING IS THE KIND OF MATERIALS THAT WILL

10:05:40 LAST AND BE SUSTAINABLE, ALLOW FOR THE PEOPLE TO COME AND

10:05:44 HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO WORK IN.

10:05:46 I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, AS WELL AS JUST OVERALL

10:05:50 THE TRANSPORTATION AND FLOW COMING IN THE AREA.

10:05:53 I DO SEE IT AS A CONCERN, BUT I DO SEE IT AS A BENEFIT.

10:05:57 I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THE RESEARCH IS DONE AND FOR THE

10:06:00 CITY WORKERS WHO ARE COMING INTO THE AREA, MAYBE THERE'S

10:06:03 SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL ALSO COME TO HELP GROW THE

10:06:06 AREA AND BRING IT BACK TO THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE SEE AROUND

10:06:09 ALL OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AREA.

10:06:11 THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH.




10:06:12 THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO COME TO THIS AREA.

10:06:14 I SEE OUR AREA AS A GREAT AREA, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE

10:06:17 SURE WE'RE ON PAR WITH EVERYONE ELSE SO OUR AREA WON'T

10:06:21 GET MISSED, AND I DON'T SEE IT GETTING MISSED WITH A

10:06:25 PROJECT LIKE THIS, BRINGING A THOUSAND PEOPLE TO THE

10:06:28 AREA.

10:06:28 I DO WANT ALL THE OTHER THINGS TO BE CONSIDERED SO OUR

10:06:31 AREA CONTINUES TO KEEP PACE WITH THE FUTURE GROWTH OF THE

10:06:34 CITY.

10:06:35 I'M HERE FOR YOU.

10:06:36 I'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED, CONTINUE.

10:06:39 I'D LIKE TO SEE POTENTIAL TO COMPETE FOR SOME OF THE

10:06:41 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES, BUSINESS OWNER FOR THIS AREA, SO

10:06:44 I CAN HELP MY CITY, MY WIFE WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE,

10:06:48 GREW UP HERE, AND WE'RE HERE BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO COME

10:06:50 BACK OF ALL PLACES IN AMERICA, HERE IN TAMPA.

10:06:53 SO I WANT TO SEE THIS AREA GROW AND GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES

10:06:56 TO YOUNG PEOPLE FOR JOBS, AS FRAN MENTIONED IS A KEY PART

10:07:01 OF IT.

10:07:02 I WANT THE AREA TO BE AN AREA WHERE EVERYONE LOVES TO

10:07:05 COME AND VISIT.

10:07:06 NOT JUST WEST TAMPA OR SOUTH TAMPA, EAST TAMPA REALLY

10:07:09 NEEDS TO SHINE FOR OUR AREA AS WELL.

10:07:13 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

10:07:14 LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.




10:07:15 ALTHEA.

10:07:16 EXCUSE ME, ALTHEA, MY COLLEAGUE.

10:07:19 THAT'S RIGHT.

10:07:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:07:21 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND GET THE NEXT SPEAKER.

10:07:25 ANDY SCAGLIONE AND MARVIN KNIGHT.

10:07:45 >> IT'S A DOUBLE-HITTER.

10:07:48 >> DANGEROUS DUO THERE.

10:07:50 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:07:51 ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.

10:07:55 I SPECIALIZE IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FOR 35 YEARS IN

10:07:59 THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:08:00 I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE RELOCATION OF THE POLICE STATION

10:08:03 FROM DOWNTOWN TO EAST TAMPA.

10:08:05 THE MAJOR PRINCIPLE IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IS HIGHEST

10:08:09 AND BEST USE.

10:08:11 CLEARLY, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS BUILDING IS NOT

10:08:15 A POLICE STATION IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION.

10:08:18 IT WAS BUILT IN 1962, WHICH MAKES IT 59 YEARS AGO.

10:08:23 I'M SURE MR. MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA KNOWS, I

10:08:26 REMEMBER GOING THERE WITH MY -- WHEN IT WAS CALLED MARINE

10:08:31 BANK.

10:08:33 THAT'S THE REASON IT'S PAINTED BLUE BECAUSE OF MARINE

10:08:36 BANK AND NOT BECAUSE OF A POLICE STATION.

10:08:38 IT'S GOT WHAT'S CALLED A NON-CURABLE FUNCTIONAL




10:08:42 OBSOLESCENCE.

10:08:43 IN REAL ESTATE, THAT MEANS A BUILDING -- IT'S THROUGH

10:08:47 WITH ITS USEFULNESS LIFE.

10:08:50 IT WILL IMPROVE GOING TO A NEW LOCATION.

10:08:54 THE UTILIZATION RATIO, AND ALSO CONSERVATION AND ENERGY

10:08:57 AND ELECTRIC.

10:08:59 IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TAX BASE WILL INCREASE, AND THAT

10:09:04 WILL BE A REOCCURRING INCOME FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:09:08 NOW I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND MR. MARVIN KNIGHT EXPAND ON

10:09:13 IT, THE BENEFITS OF THIS BEING LIKE A 500 EMPLOYEE

10:09:18 CORPORATE RELOCATION TO EAST TAMPA.

10:09:20 WE HAVE NEVER HAD THAT IN EAST TAMPA.

10:09:23 I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

10:09:25 THE CONSTRUCTION JOBS IT WILL CREATE, THE EMPLOYEES.

10:09:29 THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR PLACES TO EAT.

10:09:34 YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT WANT TO LIVE IN THE

10:09:36 AREA CLOSE BY.

10:09:38 IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BUSINESSES THAT

10:09:40 DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY THAT WANT TO BE CLOSE BY, WHICH

10:09:43 WE CALL THAT A COMPOUNDING MULTIPLIER.

10:09:47 AGAIN, I APPLAUD THE MAYOR, HER STAFF, DEPUTY

10:09:52 ADMINISTRATOR FOR THEIR PROACTIVENESS, THE DUE DILIGENCE

10:09:58 THEY HAVE DONE ON THIS AND THE EXECUTION OF MAKING THIS

10:10:02 HAPPEN.

10:10:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON THIS GREAT PROJECT.




10:10:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:10:06 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:10:09 >> GREETINGS.

10:10:10 MARVIN KNIGHT.

10:10:12 I RESIDE IN THE AREA.

10:10:14 I LIVE IN THE AREA.

10:10:16 FAMILY BUSINESS IN THE AREA.

10:10:18 I WORK IN THE AREA.

10:10:20 IN FACT, I PASS DOWN HANNA EVERY DAY GOING TO TAMPA

10:10:24 ELECTRIC.

10:10:25 BEEN THERE OVER 35 YEARS.

10:10:27 I FEEL IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS CITY TO COME

10:10:30 TOGETHER NOT ONLY HIRE SOME PEOPLE, DO SOME THINGS WITH

10:10:33 INFRASTRUCTURE.

10:10:36 I SEE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING.

10:10:38 I SUPPORT -- I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE MOVE TO EAST TAMPA

10:10:44 AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

10:10:46 AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOU DO, AND HOPE MAKE IT HAPPEN

10:10:53 SO WE CAN DO THINGS BETTER IN EAST TAMPA AND INCLUDING

10:11:00 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

10:11:01 THANK YOU.

10:11:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:11:02 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER

10:11:12 PLEASE.

10:11:12 YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.




10:11:27 >> MY NAME IS KALI DENAULT.

10:11:31 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE PORT TAMPA CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

10:11:34 I REPRESENT MY NEIGHBORS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR

10:11:36 SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCING TREMENDOUS GROWTH.

10:11:39 I FIELD PHONE CALLS, E-MAILS, SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGES AND

10:11:42 NEIGHBORS STOPPING ME ON THE SIDEWALK TO ASK ME HOW THIS

10:11:44 CAN HAPPEN.

10:11:45 TELL ME ABOUT THEIR NEW FLOODING ISSUES AFTER LIVING HERE

10:11:48 30 PLUS YEARS WITHOUT IT, THE POWER OUTAGES, OVERFLOWING

10:11:51 SCHOOLS, TRAFFIC.

10:11:52 QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE EVENT OF A

10:11:54 HURRICANE LIKE MICHAEL AND LAST-MINUTE EVACUATION.

10:11:56 YOU ALL EXPERIENCED VERY SIMILAR SITUATIONS.

10:12:00 I COME HERE TO BE ONE VOICE FOR MANY, TO SAVE YOU ALL THE

10:12:02 TIME FROM HEARING FROM EVERY PERSON IN PORT TAMPA

10:12:05 EXPERIENCING A PROBLEM DUE TO THE INFLUX OF DEVELOPMENT.

10:12:07 BUT THEN I HEARD THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY CLAIM THE

10:12:10 PEOPLE WHO COME TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO

10:12:13 ACTUALLY FEEL THIS WAY.

10:12:14 SO WE REQUESTED OUR NEIGHBORS EXPRESS TO YOU ALL AND TO

10:12:17 MAYOR CASTOR HOW THEY FEEL.

10:12:19 SO MANY PEOPLE CALLED IN THAT WE HEARD THE CITY HAD TO

10:12:22 SHUT THE VOICE MAIL SYSTEM DOWN.

10:12:23 WHO NEEDS TO HEAR THOSE VOICE MAILS IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE

10:12:26 TO ACTUALLY ACT?




10:12:27 CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED DEVELOPERS SPEAK TO THE

10:12:27 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.

10:12:30 SOME OF THEM CHECKED THAT BOX.

10:12:32 THEY HOLD MEETINGS AND PRAISE THEIR BUILDINGS BUILT OF

10:12:33 PLYWOOD.

10:12:33 THEY SHOW THEIR BEAUTIFUL FACADES AND MAKE SURE WE KNOW

10:12:38 THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THEY'LL SPENT ON IMPACT FEES.

10:12:40 THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, NOT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BOTTOM LINE

10:12:43 WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T BE

10:12:46 NEARLY AS IMPRESSIVE.

10:12:47 WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, AND IT GOES THE SAME WAY EVERY

10:12:49 TIME.

10:12:49 THEY ACT SUPPORTIVE.

10:12:50 THEY TELL US ABOUT THE BOXES THAT THE CITY MAKES THEM

10:12:53 CHECK AND HOW THEY WILL CHECK SAID BOXES.

10:12:55 WE REPEAT THE SAME MESSAGE.

10:12:56 RESPECTFULLY, THERE ARE TOO MANY CARS DRIVING TO LEAVE

10:12:58 THIS PENINSULA DAILY.

10:12:59 THERE ARE TOO MANY BUILDINGS MADE OF MOSTLY PLYWOOD GOING

10:13:03 UP.

10:13:03 APARTMENTS ARE GOING UP AMIDST SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

10:13:06 GOING UP IN AREAS WITH ONE OR TWO ROADS FEEDING INTO THE

10:13:06 VERY FEW MAIN ARTERIES LEAVING THE PENINSULA, FOUR TO BE

10:13:09 EXACT.

10:13:10 WE UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BUILT MANY




10:13:12 APARTMENTS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY OR EVEN FLORIDA

10:13:15 EXPERIENCING GENTRIFICATION.

10:13:17 BUT WERE THOSE BUILDINGS LOCATED ON A SMALL PENINSULA

10:13:19 WITH ONE WAY OUT IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA?

10:13:22 EACH BUSINESS OR DEVELOPER IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

10:13:23 THEIR PLAN BECAUSE, ONE, DECREASE IN THE DENSITY

10:13:26 DECREASES THEIR PROFIT.

10:13:27 THEY ARE A BUSINESS, NOT A PHILANTHROPY.

10:13:28 TWO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO THANKS TO CITY POLICY.

10:13:32 THEY WILL BUILD THEM.

10:13:33 THEY WILL INITIALLY FILL THEM.

10:13:34 AND THEN THEY WILL SELL THEM.

10:13:36 THEY'LL LEAVE US WITH AGING APARTMENT BUILDINGS BRINGING

10:13:38 DOWN THE VALUE OF OUR AREA THAT EVERYONE CLAIMS THEY ARE

10:13:41 SUPPORTING SO WELL RIGHT NOW.

10:13:42 ADD VESTED HOMEOWNERS TO THE AREA.

10:13:44 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, TOWNHOMES, CONDOS, COMMERCIAL.

10:13:47 WE ARE LACKING IN COMMERCIAL.

10:13:48 EVERYONE TELLS ME THE DENSITY HAS TO COME FIRST, BUT AT

10:13:51 THIS POINT, WHERE IS THE COMMERCIAL GOING TO GO?

10:13:53 IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE BEEN IN SEVERAL MEETINGS AND

10:13:56 COPIED ON SEVERAL E-MAILS IN WHICH PEOPLE WHO ARE

10:13:58 EMPLOYED TO STRATEGICALLY PLAN FOR THE CITY HAVE SENT

10:14:01 VOLUNTEERS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF THESE

10:14:03 NEIGHBORHOODS IN CIRCLES.




10:14:04 IT WAS A JOKE AND IT WAS A WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME.

10:14:07 WILL THIS INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE SOLVE OUR

10:14:10 PROBLEM?

10:14:11 NOT WITHOUT THE HELP AND SUPPORT OF MAYOR CASTOR AND HER

10:14:14 STAFF.

10:14:14 IS THERE A STRATEGY OR PLAN FOR THE AREA SOUTH OF GANDY?

10:14:17 ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO EVALUATE HOW THE DEVELOPMENT IS

10:14:19 AFFECTING THE AREA AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SUSTAIN

10:14:21 INITIATIVES PUT INTO PLACE 10 TO 15 YEARS AGO?

10:14:23 WE NEED A STRATEGY THAT WILL LAST LONGER THAN A FOUR-YEAR

10:14:26 TERM.

10:14:26 THIS IS NOT WHERE THAT PLAN WILL BE MADE, BUT I'M HOPING

10:14:29 THIS IS WHERE THE NEED FOR ONE WILL BE HEARD.

10:14:31 THANK YOU.

10:14:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:14:32 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.

10:14:36 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:14:55 YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

10:15:12 >> HI.

10:15:12 LYNDA REMUND WITH THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP,

10:15:15 PRESIDENT AND CEO.

10:15:16 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.

10:15:19 THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

10:15:21 I MET WITH MOST OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, BUT WANTED TO

10:15:24 FORMALLY COME AND PRESENT TO YOU TODAY ON SOME PLANS THAT




10:15:28 YOU'LL SEE TAKING PLACE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AT

10:15:31 LYKES-GASLIGHT PARK.

10:15:32 AND ON THE MONITOR, I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THAT, WE HAVE A

10:15:36 SKETCH OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE ACTUALLY BE HAPPENING THERE.

10:15:40 LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THAT CENTERED A LITTLE MORE.

10:15:44 THERE WE GO.

10:15:45 WE HAVE A 90-DAY PILOT PROGRAM THAT'S GOING IN.

10:15:50 SO YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A KIOSK OFF TO THE

10:15:54 LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, AND THAT IS AN

10:15:56 INFORMATIONAL KIOSK.

10:15:58 OVER THIS 90 DAYS, WE ARE GOING TO PUT A PORTABLE

10:16:02 TEMPORARY CONCESSION, FOOD CONCESSION THERE, AND IN THE

10:16:07 FIRST 45 DAYS, WE WILL HAVE BREAKFAST AND LUNCH SERVED,

10:16:13 AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GRAB AND GO COMPONENT.

10:16:16 AND THEN THE SECOND 45 DAYS, YOU WILL HAVE A LUNCH AND

10:16:19 DINNER COMPONENT.

10:16:20 WE'RE GOING TO BE GAINING FEEDBACK OVER THAT 90-DAY

10:16:25 PERIOD.

10:16:26 YOU WILL ALSO SEE A STAGE OFF TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, SO

10:16:29 WE HOPE TO DO SOME PROGRAMMING IN THE PARK WITH SOME

10:16:34 ENTERTAINMENT IN THE EVENINGS AND DURING LUNCH HOURS.

10:16:37 AND THE CONCESSION IS IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THAT GRAPHIC.

10:16:40 AGAIN, IT'S A GRAB AND GO.

10:16:42 WE'RE WORKING WITH MET MEN AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS

10:16:46 TO DO THAT GRAB AND GO.




10:16:48 YOU ALSO SEE ABOUT 15 OR 20 SETS OF TABLES AND CHAIRS

10:16:51 THERE THAT ARE MOVABLE.

10:16:52 SO PEOPLE CAN COME, HAVE THEIR LUNCH.

10:16:55 THEY CAN BRING THEIR LUNCH.

10:16:56 THEY CAN GET THE GRAB AND GO FROM THE CONCESSION.

10:17:00 OR JUST COME OUT AND LISTEN TO MUSIC OR WHATEVER THAT

10:17:03 PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE IN THE PARK.

10:17:05 WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME OUT ENJOY THE PARK.

10:17:09 YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ENHANCED LIGHTING.

10:17:11 YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO JUST SEE SOME BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS

10:17:16 GOING ON AS WELL.

10:17:17 AT THE END OF THAT 90 DAY PROJECT PILOT PROGRAM, WHAT WE

10:17:21 HOPE TO DO IS PUT A MORE PERMANENT INSTALLATION IN, BUT

10:17:25 WE WILL BE GETTING THAT FEEDBACK OVER THAT 90 DAYS AND

10:17:29 REALLY BE LISTENING TO COMMUNITY INPUT ON WHAT THEY WOULD

10:17:33 LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THAT PARK.

10:17:34 I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.

10:17:37 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

10:17:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:17:39 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND GET THE NEXT SPEAKER.

10:17:46 I BELIEVE THERE ARE SEVEN MORE IN PERSON.

10:17:50 WE'LL STOP AT 10:30 BRIEFLY TO TAKE UP THAT CONTINUANCE

10:17:55 THAT WE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER FOR BAY CENTER.

10:17:58 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:18:01 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YES, SIR.




10:18:02 >> HI.

10:18:03 MY NAME IS DAVID KONOWITZ, REPRESENTING LOCAL 915 IBW

10:18:09 ELECTRICAL WORKERS.

10:18:10 ITEM NUMBER 48, ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPRENTICES ON

10:18:14 CITY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS.

10:18:17 I MYSELF JUST FINISHED THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.

10:18:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, THAT'S AN ITEM SET FOR A PUBLIC

10:18:22 HEARING.

10:18:22 IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCILMAN VIERA?

10:18:23 I BELIEVE IT WAS YOUR ITEM.

10:18:26 48.

10:18:31 JUST A MOMENT.

10:18:32 WE HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.

10:18:36 >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.

10:18:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS HE OKAY TO SPEAK NOW ON THIS OR DO

10:18:44 WE HAVE TO OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING?

10:18:50 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY WE OPEN IT NOW?

10:18:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S JUST CLARIFY WITH MARTY.

10:19:00 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I RECALL, THE LAST TIME THEY SPOKE

10:19:03 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:19:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS FOR ITEM 48.

10:19:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUBLIC HEARING ON A LEGISLATIVE MATTER,

10:19:11 IS THAT CORRECT?

10:19:11 IT DOES NOT -- IF SOMEBODY CHOOSES TO TAKE THIS TIME TO

10:19:16 DO IT NOW, YOU CERTAINLY CAN CONSIDER IT.




10:19:19 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE --

10:19:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:19:22 WE'RE SORRY.

10:19:23 WE HAD TO CLARIFY WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

10:19:26 >> I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 915 AND LET YOU

10:19:31 GUYS KNOW HOW MUCH THE APPRENTICESHIP DOES FOR OUR LOCAL

10:19:36 AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND DONE FOR ME, CHANGED MY LIFE

10:19:39 AND EVERYONE ELSE IN MY CLASS' LIFE FOR THE BETTER.

10:19:42 AND THIS ORDINANCE WOULD, IN FACT, HELP OUR

10:19:46 APPRENTICESHIP GET OUR HOURS QUICKER.

10:19:51 THREE AND A HALF CALENDAR YEAR APPRENTICESHIP, AND WE

10:19:53 HAVE TO ATTAIN 8,000 HOURS IN THAT THREE AND A HALF

10:19:57 YEARS, WHICH NO ONE CAN REALLY DO, YOU KNOW.

10:20:01 BUT HAVING MORE WORK ON THE BOOKS CAN GET US THROUGH OUR

10:20:05 APPRENTICESHIP FASTER, GET MORE GUYS OUT WORKING, AND IT

10:20:11 CAN ONLY BE GOOD THINGS.

10:20:13 ALSO, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

10:20:16 AGREEMENT ELIMINATES OUR LOW SCALE, WHICH IS SMALL WORKS

10:20:19 AND MOST OF THAT CITY WORK.

10:20:21 AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, MORE CITY WORK MEANS OUR

10:20:24 LOW-SCALE GOES UP EVEN MORE.

10:20:28 SO MORE WORK AND OUR LOCAL USUALLY SETS A PREVAILING WAGE

10:20:35 IN THE AREA, SO WHEN OUR WAGE GOES UP, EVEN THE NONUNION

10:20:39 WORKERS, THEIR WAGES INCREASE AS WELL, TOO, TYPICALLY.

10:20:44 MORE WORK FOR US IS BETTER FOR EVERYONE.




10:20:47 THANK YOU.

10:20:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:20:49 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:20:56 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

10:21:16 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.

10:21:19 I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.

10:21:21 THE CITY HAS COMPLETELY MYSTIFIED ME.

10:21:25 JEAN DUNCAN STOOD IN FRONT OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND

10:21:27 SAID, THIS IS WHERE GROWTH IS BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, NOT

10:21:32 HERE.

10:21:33 RANDY GOERS TOLD CITY COUNCIL THAT IT IS A GREAT CONCERN

10:21:38 THAT THIS AREA HAS THE HIGHEST GROWTH INTENSITY.

10:21:41 SO WHY DOESN'T THE CITY STAFF CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF

10:21:44 THE REZONING PROCESS.

10:21:46 CAROLE POST TOLD CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS WHERE WE WANT

10:22:00 RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES TO BE GUIDED.

10:22:02 THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TRANSIT-ORIENTED AND INFILL

10:22:08 DEVELOPMENT.

10:22:10 AND THESE ARE THE STRATEGIC EXPANSION AREAS.

10:22:14 WHY DOES CITY STAFF RULE CONSISTENT ON REZONINGS THAT DO

10:22:18 NOT ACCOMPLISH THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT GOALS?

10:22:20 THE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT, THE

10:22:25 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH

10:22:28 MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT

10:22:31 ALL AGREE WHERE GROWTH AND URBANIZATION SHOULD OCCUR.




10:22:37 WHY ISN'T THE CITY STAFF DIRECTED TO TAKE THE CITY'S OWN

10:22:42 GOALS INTO CONSIDERATION?

10:22:44 IT'S LIKE THE CITY HAS A SPLIT PERSONALITY.

10:22:47 WE ARE STARTING TO BELIEVE THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DOES

10:22:49 NOT WANT TO LIMIT APARTMENTS IN SOUTH TAMPA AND STEER

10:22:52 GROWTH AWAY FROM THE CHHA WHICH IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

10:22:56 TAMPA'S MOTTO SEEMS TO BECOME ALL GROWTH IS GOOD GROWTH,

10:23:00 EVEN IF IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT RESILIENT,

10:23:03 EVEN IF IT CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW.

10:23:05 LAND SPECULATORS BUY PROPERTY THAT IS NOT ZONED FOR

10:23:12 APARTMENTS AND THEN SCREAM AND YELL THAT THEY ARE

10:23:14 ENTITLED TO BUILD WHATEVER WILL MAKE THEM THE MOST MONEY,

10:23:17 EVEN THOUGH COURTS HAVE RULED THAT IT HAS NEVER BEEN THE

10:23:21 LAW THAT A LANDOWNER IS ALWAYS ENTITLED TO THE HIGHEST

10:23:25 AND BEST USE OF HIS LAND.

10:23:27 THEY THREATEN THE CITY EVEN THOUGH COURTS MAINTAIN THAT A

10:23:31 ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS ASSUMED -- IS PRESUMED TO BE

10:23:35 VALID.

10:23:36 THE COMP PLAN STATES SOUTH TAMPA IS UNSUITABLE FOR HIGH

10:23:40 DENSITY BECAUSE IT HAS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES THAT WOULD

10:23:43 BE COMPROMISED BY INCREASED URBANIZATION, LIMITED ACCESS

10:23:46 TO TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, WHICH WOULD BE RESOURCED

10:23:50 INEFFICIENT TO IMPROVE, LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO GREAT

10:23:53 MORE COMMUNITY FACILITIES, OPEN SPACES OR SERVICES TO

10:23:55 MEET INCREASED DEMAND.




10:23:56 AND BECAUSE IT IS UNSTABLE AND FLOOD PRONE.

10:24:00 WE ARE NOT THRILLED WITH THE INTERIM ORDINANCE THAT DOES

10:24:03 SO LITTLE.

10:24:04 IT IS NOT A MORATORIUM, AND IT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE

10:24:06 PERMANENT SOLUTION.

10:24:08 IT WOULD NOT HAVE AFFECTED MOST OF THE REZONINGS THAT THE

10:24:11 CITY COUNCIL HAS DENIED.

10:24:12 IT DOES VERY LITTLE TO GIVE THE CITY SUSTAINABLE,

10:24:14 RESILIENT, HEALTHY GROWTH, BUT ITEM 74 IS BETTER THAN

10:24:17 NOTHING, SO PLEASE APPROVE IT.

10:24:20 I HAVE NO IDEA WHY DEVELOPERS WOULD OBJECT TO THIS

10:24:23 TEMPORARY ORDINANCE SINCE IT HAS SUCH LITTLE IMPACT.

10:24:25 I WANT ALL OF THE VOICE MAILS FOR ITEM 74 PLAYED ON APRIL

10:24:29 1st, PLEASE.

10:24:30 THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE SAYS VOICE MAILS WILL BE PLAYED

10:24:32 AND THE CITIZENS LEFT THOSE MESSAGES IN GOOD FAITH.

10:24:35 THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, SO

10:24:38 LET'S HEAR THE ANSWERS.

10:24:39 THANK YOU.

10:24:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:24:41 ALL RIGHT.

10:24:47 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:24:55 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:24:56 PHIL COMPTON, SPEAKING TODAY REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 66.

10:25:00 WE ALL KNOW THAT LEGISLATION IS MOVING FORWARD NOW IN




10:25:03 TALLAHASSEE THAT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF THE EFFORTS OF

10:25:05 THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO MOVE TAMPA TO THE CLEAN ENERGY

10:25:07 FUTURE WE ALL DESERVE AND NEED.

10:25:09 WE ALL KNOW THAT WHILE IT'S GOOD THAT THE GOVERNOR IS

10:25:12 ALLOCATING A BILLION DOLLARS OF THE STATE'S SHARE OF THE

10:25:14 AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT TO IMPROVE FLORIDA'S RESILIENCE TO

10:25:17 SEA LEVEL RISE, WE CANNOT HOPE TO BUILD SEAWALLS HIGH

10:25:19 ENOUGH TO PROTECT WHERE WE STAND TODAY.

10:25:21 SOUTH OF GANDY AND OTHER PLACES WHERE MANY OF US LIVE AND

10:25:24 WORK TODAY IN TAMPA.

10:25:26 IF WE TAIL TO DO OUR -- FAIL TO DO OUR PART TO END USE OF

10:25:31 FOSSIL FUELS AND WASTE OF ENERGY FROM LEAKY WINDOWS IN SO

10:25:34 MANY HOMES.

10:25:35 WE KNOW THIS PENDING LEGISLATION SB 1128 AND HB 919 WOULD

10:25:40 PROHIBIT THE CITY FROM TAKING ANY ACTION TOWARDS ANY GOAL

10:25:43 OF ENERGY, INCLUDING THE MAYOR'S OWN GOAL OF 2045.

10:25:46 WE ALL KNOW WE MUST ACT AND ACT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE HERE

10:25:50 IN TAMPA TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.

10:25:51 WE ALL KNOW, AT LEAST I HOPE WE ALL KNOW THAT A MAJOR

10:25:54 PROBLEM IS THE HIGH ENERGY BURDEN THAT OUR LOWEST INCOME

10:25:56 FAMILIES HAVE FACED FOR YEARS, A BURDEN THAT HAS RESULTED

10:25:59 IN MANY LOSING POWER AS UNEMPLOYMENT DEPRIVED FAMILIES

10:26:02 ALREADY HARD-PRESSED TO MAKE ENDS MEET OF THE FUNDS THAT

10:26:04 THEY NEED TO KEEP THEIR LIGHTS ON.

10:26:06 WE ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT THE LOWER YOUR INCOME, THE HIGHER




10:26:10 YOUR POWER BILL, AND WE ALL KNOW THE PUBLIC SERVICE

10:26:12 COMMISSION DOESN'T REQUIRE UTILITIES TO DO NEARLY ENOUGH

10:26:15 TO HELP PEOPLE LOWER THE BILL BY MAKING HOMES MORE ENERGY

10:26:18 EFFICIENT.

10:26:18 WE ALL KNOW THE CITY IS CONSIDERING SELLING THE POLICE

10:26:20 HEADQUARTERS AND INVESTING THE PROCEEDS INTO

10:26:23 REINVIGORATING EAST TAMPA.

10:26:25 SO WHILE TALLAHASSEE IS CONSIDERING PREEMPTION THAT WOULD

10:26:29 MAKE IT -- AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION ON

10:26:32 CLEAN ENERGY AND NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO PASS ANY SUCH

10:26:35 RESOLUTION, HOW ABOUT WE WORK WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

10:26:38 WITH HER ADVISORY COUNCIL AND SUSTAINABILITY AND

10:26:40 RESILIENCE THAT I'M A MEMBER OF, TO IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN

10:26:43 RAMP UP WEATHERIZATION IN LOW-INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN

10:26:46 EAST TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS, AND OTHER AREAS WHERE WE

10:26:49 HAVE OUR HIGHEST ENERGY BURDENS, USING SOME OF THE

10:26:51 PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

10:26:54 SAVING ENERGY SAVES MONEY FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.

10:26:57 IT ALSO REDUCES OUR CARBON EMISSIONS AND REDUCES DEMAND

10:27:00 FOR THE COAL AND GAS THAT IS THE SOURCE OF MOST OF OUR

10:27:03 ELECTRICITY.

10:27:04 THE FIRST THING ANYONE SHOULD DO TO MOVE TO CLEAN ENERGY

10:27:07 IS TO STOP WASTING ENERGY.

10:27:09 MEANWHILE, PLEASE WRITE AND CALL OUR LEGISLATIVE

10:27:11 DELEGATION AND ASK THEM TO OPPOSE SB 1128 AND HB 919




10:27:16 BEFORE YOUR ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING ON ENERGY IS LOST.

10:27:18 REPRESENTATIVE JACKIE TOLEDO, FOR EXAMPLE, CHAIRS A

10:27:22 COMMITTEE THAT HAS YET TO HEAR HB 919.

10:27:26 SHE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL TODAY.

10:27:27 THANK YOU.

10:27:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:27:28 THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:27:30 YES, SIR.

10:27:46 GO AHEAD.

10:27:47 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:27:48 >> MY NAME IS GETULIO GONZALEZ-MULATTIERI.

10:27:51 I'M REPRESENTING THE TAMPA BAY DISASTER RESILIENCE

10:27:53 INITIATIVE.

10:27:53 PICTURE THIS, RIGHT?

10:27:56 THE CITY'S POWER GRID STOPS FUNCTIONING, EMERGENCY

10:27:59 SERVICES IN OUR HOSPITALS COME TO A HALT.

10:28:01 AC UNITS AND REFRIGERATORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY STOP

10:28:04 WORKING, AND THIS RESULTS IN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM

10:28:07 RECEIVING THE MEDICAL CARE THAT THEY DESPERATELY NEED IN

10:28:11 THE FORM OF MEDICATIONS SUCH AS INSULIN.

10:28:16 IT DOESN'T STOP THERE.

10:28:17 OUTSIDE FIVE TO NINE FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE AND PEOPLE

10:28:19 YOU MAY KNOW ARE SITTING ON ROOFTOPS.

10:28:22 UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF THE ELDERLY AND THE YOUTH IN THE

10:28:25 CITY SUCCUMB TO THIS DISASTER.




10:28:29 FIRST RESPONDERS WOULD BE COMING TO RESCUE PEOPLE ON

10:28:33 ROOFTOPS AND INFLATABLE BOATS.

10:28:35 NO AMOUNT OF SEAWALLS WILL AVERT THIS DISASTER.

10:28:40 THESE ARE THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

10:28:42 THIS IS INEVITABLE.

10:28:43 THIS IS JUST A SMALL TASTE OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE

10:28:47 DON'T MOVE AGGRESSIVELY ON CLIMATE POLICY.

10:28:50 I WAS RAISED IN ONE OF THE CITY'S FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES,

10:28:53 AND IT IS THESE COMMUNITIES THAT WILL SUFFER THE MOST

10:28:55 FROM THESE DISASTERS.

10:28:57 I HEAR THAT SOME OF YOU MAY BE WORRIED THAT THE CITY OF

10:28:59 TAMPA IS IN TALLAHASSEE'S CROSSHAIRS.

10:29:01 WELL, I SAY WE GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.

10:29:04 LET'S MOVE ON THE POLICY.

10:29:05 TODAY, I'M URGING THIS BODY AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO

10:29:09 MOVE BOLDLY AND BRAVELY ON CLIMATE POLICY.

10:29:12 YES, TABLE THE READY FOR 100 RESOLUTION.

10:29:15 THAT'S FINE.

10:29:15 WHAT WE NEED IS SUBSTANTIVE POLICIES SO THAT WE CAN AVERT

10:29:21 THE LOOMING CLIMATE CRISIS.

10:29:24 THESE ARE MOVES THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THE BIDEN

10:29:26 ADMINISTRATION, AND I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR COMMITTED TO A

10:29:29 2045 DEADLINE FOR CITYWIDE ADOPTION OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.

10:29:32 BUT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE SCIENTISTS AND THE RESOURCES

10:29:36 THAT SAYS THAT THE DEADLINE IS CHANGED, THE SCIENCE HAS




10:29:40 CHANGED.

10:29:40 WE HAVE ONLY NINE YEARS TO MEET THOSE GOALS BEFORE THAT

10:29:44 HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO I JUST GAVE YOU BECOMES INEVITABLE,

10:29:48 BECOMES A REALITY, SO WE HAVE TO MOVE ON IT NOW.

10:29:52 YOU ALSO HAVE THE RESEARCH FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD

10:29:54 THAT WILL CONFIRM THE TIMETABLE THAT I JUST GAVE YOU.

10:29:57 IF WE DON'T MOVE ON THIS, LOOK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING

10:30:03 TO HAPPEN.

10:30:04 THIS IS A FUTURE I HAVE TO LIVE WITH AND YOUR CHILDREN

10:30:07 AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH.

10:30:09 LET'S CREATE GREEN JOBS FOR OUR FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES

10:30:12 WHILE WE WORK ON AVERTING THIS DISASTER.

10:30:15 THANK YOU.

10:30:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:30:16 ALL RIGHT.

10:30:20 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:30:21 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:30:33 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:30:34 >> HI.

10:30:34 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:30:35 MY NAME IS RUSSELL KAHN.

10:30:37 I'M HERE AS AN INDIVIDUAL TODAY, NOT UNDER ANY

10:30:40 ORGANIZATION OR AUTHORITY AT THIS POINT.

10:30:41 I HAD SOME PREPARED REMARKS, BUT I'M PRETTY DISAPPOINTED

10:30:46 BY ALL OF THE RECENT EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED REGARDING




10:30:49 ITEM 66, THE CLEAN ENERGY RESOLUTION.

10:30:52 THERE WAS A COMMITMENT BY THIS COUNCIL.

10:30:57 EVERYBODY SAID WE'RE GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF MOVING ON

10:31:00 BOLD CLIMATE POLICY.

10:31:03 THEN A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED WHICH WE'RE ALL AWARE OF

10:31:06 BEHIND THE SCENES.

10:31:08 AT THE END OF THE DAY, TALLAHASSEE IS GOING TO

10:31:10 POTENTIALLY PASS LEGISLATION THAT LIMITS HOW MUCH YOU CAN

10:31:15 DO.

10:31:17 AND WE NEED TO -- AS DISAPPOINTING AS IT IS, FIGURE OUT

10:31:23 WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WORK TO DO WHAT WE CAN

10:31:27 IN THOSE -- IN THAT FRAMEWORK.

10:31:30 THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR TABLING IT.

10:31:35 IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR NOT ACTING TIMELY LAST YEAR WHEN

10:31:39 WE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS UP.

10:31:42 THERE WAS WORK DONE, GOOD-FAITH WORK TO TRY AND MOVE THAT

10:31:47 RESOLUTION TO GET IT IN A PERFECT PLACE.

10:31:50 AND IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING THAT WE WERE NOT GIVEN THAT

10:31:54 OPPORTUNITY AND THAT TIME TO GET A GOOD BILL.

10:31:58 WE WERE NEVER -- THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENTION OF BANNING

10:32:02 GAS STATIONS OR PROPANE REFUEL STATIONS, PROPANE TANKS.

10:32:06 THAT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION OF WHAT WE WERE DOING, AND

10:32:11 THAT STORY HAS GOTTEN PROPAGATED TO TALLAHASSEE ON SB

10:32:17 1128 AND SB 856.

10:32:22 AND EVEN OUR OWN DEMOCRATS HERE LOCALLY HAVE BEEN




10:32:27 PARROTING SOME OF THOSE LINES.

10:32:29 SO IT'S EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING THAT THERE'S SO MUCH

10:32:32 MISINFORMATION.

10:32:34 BUT THE REALITY IS, WHETHER IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT'S

10:32:37 NONBINDING TODAY, WHETHER IT'S AFTER SESSION, WHETHER

10:32:42 IT'S DOWN THE ROAD, WHENEVER, THE REALITY IS WE NEED TO

10:32:47 START MAKING BOLD ACTION ON CLIMATE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

10:32:51 WE NEED TO START APPROPRIATING FINANCIAL RESOURCES.

10:32:54 WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS, AND

10:32:59 WE NEED TO START MOVING.

10:33:00 2045 IS NOT FAST ENOUGH.

10:33:02 I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS THE PROMISE, AND IF THE LAST TWO

10:33:05 PERCENT HAPPENS IN 2045, THEN 2045 IS GOOD ENOUGH.

10:33:09 BUT WE NEED TO HAVE 70% BY 2030.

10:33:12 80% COMMUNITYWIDE.

10:33:13 YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE.

10:33:15 SO YOU CAN STILL DO A LOT OF THIS INTERNAL WORK.

10:33:20 JUST START DOING THE WORK, OKAY?

10:33:22 I UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT

10:33:24 I'M BEGGING YOU, PLEASE, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND START

10:33:27 DOING THE ACTUAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE TO PROTECT

10:33:31 THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:33:33 THANK YOU.

10:33:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:33:35 NEXT SPEAKER.




10:33:44 YES, SIR.

10:33:53 GO AHEAD.

10:33:53 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:33:54 MENTESNOT.

10:33:56 GOOD MORNING.

10:33:57 UHURU.

10:33:57 UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.

10:34:00 AND WE SAY -- HEY, CAN YOU HOLD MY TIME, PLEASE?

10:34:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE COULD PLEASE KEEP THE ROOM

10:34:06 QUIET AS THE GENTLEMAN SPEAKS.

10:34:07 >> UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.

10:34:11 WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR

10:34:14 FREEDOM.

10:34:15 EVERY SINGLE DAY NO MATTER WHAT WE'RE DOING, EVEN IF

10:34:17 WE'RE IN THE BEDROOM, AT THE BAR, CLUB, BROADWAY BAR,

10:34:21 WHISKEY NORTH, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT OUR FREEDOM AT

10:34:24 ALL TIMES. THIS MORNING I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY FREEDOM.

10:34:27 THAT'S WHY I CAME DOWN HERE TO THINK ABOUT MY FREEDOM.

10:34:30 FIRST, IN GETTING DOWN HERE, A STUPID WHITE LADY

10:34:33 APPROACHED ME TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH MY FREEDOM.

10:34:36 AND THEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TRIED

10:34:40 TO HAVE ME ARRESTED, YES, TRIED TO HAVE ME ARRESTED.

10:34:44 CALLED TO HAVE ME ARRESTED TRYING CIRCUMVENT MY ABILITY

10:34:47 TO ARTICULATE IN REFERENCE TO MY FREEDOM.

10:34:49 WHY IS THAT?




10:34:50 BECAUSE I'VE GOT A SIGN AND HAVE MY SECOND WIFE WITH ME,

10:34:54 DANIEL.

10:34:55 ACTUALLY CALLED TO HAVE ME ARRESTED.

10:34:57 I SAY, HEY, SHOW ME WHAT I'M VIOLATING.

10:35:01 DON'T HAVE TO SHOW YOU NOTHING.

10:35:02 THIS RACIST, THIS RACIST WHITE MAN, THIS HOW THEY OFFEND

10:35:07 AFRICAN PEOPLE.

10:35:08 THIS RACIST WHITE MAN TELLING ME, OH, THAT CAN BE USED --

10:35:12 THAT CAN BE USED AS A WEAPON.

10:35:14 THAT'S WHY WE'RE -- THAT'S HOW THEY PUT CHARGES ON

10:35:17 AFRICAN PEOPLE AND ORLANDO GUDES, YOU NEED TO CALL HIM

10:35:20 UP.

10:35:21 YES, YOU NEED TO CALL HIM UP AND FIND OUT.

10:35:24 AND HE NEED TO GET WRITTEN UP AND HE NEED TO GET

10:35:27 TERMINATED.

10:35:28 HOW DO YOU INSULT AFRICAN PEOPLE.

10:35:30 SO STEREOTYPICAL, HATEFUL, MEAN, DEGRADING AND AFFECTS

10:35:36 AFRICAN PEOPLE.

10:35:37 IT AFFECTS THE WAY WE THINK, THE WAY WE LIVE AND THE WAY

10:35:40 WE ASPIRE.

10:35:41 RACIST WHITE MAN WORKING FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT

10:35:45 TELLING ME I HAVE A MANNEQUIN WITH A SIGN ON IT.

10:35:50 AFTER, TOLD THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH HAVING THAT IN HERE.

10:35:53 HE CALLS TO HAVE ME ARRESTED AND TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING,

10:35:58 SECRET MEETING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE TELLING THEM SOMETHING




10:36:01 ELSE.

10:36:01 IT'S RACISM.

10:36:02 IT'S RACISM.

10:36:03 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

10:36:04 AND NO MATTER -- I DIDN'T COME DOWN HERE TO TALK ABOUT

10:36:07 THAT.

10:36:08 I DIDN'T COME DOWN HERE TO GET OFF TRACK.

10:36:10 BUT THAT'S WHAT WE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO END UP DOING EACH

10:36:15 AND EVERY DAY OF OUR MFING LIVES.

10:36:18 THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BE DOING.

10:36:19 GET OUT IN OUR AUTOMOBILE, JUST GOING TO THE PARK AND GET

10:36:22 STOPPED AND HARASSED AND ARRESTED, INTIMIDATED AND OUR

10:36:27 VEHICLES REPOSSESSED BY THE CITY AND ALL THIS --

10:36:30 IMPOUNDED BY THE CITY.

10:36:31 IT'S RACISM.

10:36:33 AND IT'S FOOLISHNESS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE

10:36:36 POLICE STATION, THE PIG STATION IN EAST TAMPA AND THEY

10:36:39 GOT SOME IGNORANT NEGROES COMING DOWN HERE.

10:36:42 OH, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD FOR DEVELOPMENT.

10:36:44 AIN'T NOTHING THEY EVER DID FOR BLACK PEOPLE THAT'S GOOD

10:36:47 FOR DEVELOPMENT.

10:36:47 THEY TRY TO TELL US JACKIE ROBINSON WAS GOOD FOR

10:36:50 BASEBALL.

10:36:50 NO, JACKIE ROBINSON WASN'T NOTHING BUT A NEGRO CLOWN THAT

10:36:54 WAS USED, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.




10:36:56 LOOK, GO AND INSPECT HIS LIFE WHEN HE TRIED TO CHANGE HIS

10:37:00 LIFE AROUND WHEN HE UNDERSTOOD HE WAS INVOLVED IN

10:37:02 BREAKING UP NEGRO BASEBALL.

10:37:04 WE HAD OUR OWN BASEBALL.

10:37:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:37:07 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:37:15 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:37:32 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:37:33 >> HI.

10:37:33 CRAIG FOX.

10:37:34 I'M A RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA.

10:37:35 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

10:37:39 I'M SPEAKING ON THE ISSUE OF RELOCATING SOME CITY

10:37:43 SERVICES TO THE HANNA PROPERTY.

10:37:46 I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS WITH THAT.

10:37:47 ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY FOCUSES ON IS

10:37:51 PRIORITIZING THE MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS, THE BLACK

10:37:53 COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA, WHICH ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO

10:37:57 WHERE THE NEW CENTER IS THINKING ABOUT BEING RELOCATED

10:37:59 TO.

10:37:59 WHILE SOME BLACK FOLKS IN THE EASTERN SIDE OF TAMPA

10:38:06 COMMUNITIES ARE HOMEOWNERS, THE MAJORITY ARE NOT.

10:38:09 SO HAVING AN ISSUE LIKE THIS RELOCATED THERE, YES, SOME

10:38:16 BLACK FOLKS WILL BENEFIT FROM IT.

10:38:18 THANKFULLY I'M A BLACK HOMEOWNER BUT CONCERNED WITH SOME




10:38:21 OF THE MORE VULNERABLE RESIDENTS WHICH HAVE THE RENTS

10:38:24 INCREASED, NOT JUST THEIR HOME VALUES INCREASE.

10:38:27 THERE ARE SOME VERY AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS WITHIN CLOSE

10:38:30 PROXIMITY TO THE NEW LOCATION TO WHERE THE CENTER WILL BE

10:38:33 RELOCATED TO.

10:38:33 THOSE FOLKS LIVING THERE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD RENTS

10:38:39 ALREADY.

10:38:39 THE AVERAGE BLACK HOUSEHOLD INCOME WAS ONLY $45,000 IN

10:38:43 2019.

10:38:44 SINCE THEN, CERTAINLY DROPPED SINCE THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC

10:38:46 HAS KICKED OFF.

10:38:48 RELOCATION IS NOT CREATING NEW JOBS.

10:38:51 WE'RE MOVING 500 JOBS EMPLOYED BY PEOPLE NOT NECESSARILY

10:38:56 CREATING NEW JOBS.

10:38:57 WE HAVE EXISTING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS NO GUARANTEE OF

10:38:59 NEW JOBS.

10:39:00 NO KNOCK TO THAT DEPARTMENT BUT IT'S NO GUARANTEE THAT

10:39:03 LOW INCOME PEOPLE WITHIN THESE COMMUNITIES ARE ACTUALLY

10:39:05 GOING TO BE MORE EMPLOYED ONCE THE CITY MOVES THERE, THE

10:39:07 CITY CENTER MOVES THERE.

10:39:08 IN ADDITION, I'M DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO RELOCATING THE TPD

10:39:12 HEADQUARTERS.

10:39:12 IT'S VERY CONCERNING THAT THE CITY IS NOW, YOU KNOW,

10:39:16 ACCORDING TO THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS NOW RENEWED

10:39:19 FOCUS THAT SLIDING TOWARDS RETURNING TO THE DRUG WAR




10:39:22 POLICY IS VERY CONCERNING AND TPD HAD AN INCREASE IN

10:39:26 FORCE IN 2019, BEFORE 2020 PROTEST KICKED OFF AND THAT

10:39:31 STILL HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.

10:39:33 SO UNLESS THE CITY IS PLANNING ON HIRING LOW-INCOME

10:39:36 INDIVIDUALS, VULNERABLE RETURNING CITIZENS IN THE PLANS

10:39:41 WHICH ARE NOT REALLY IN THE PLANS BECAUSE $500 ALREADY

10:39:44 EXISTING, THIS IS REALLY JUST HOW GENTRIFICATION WORKS.

10:39:48 IT MAY BENEFIT SOME, THE FEW BLACK PEOPLE BUT WE NEED TO

10:39:51 BE THINKING ABOUT THE MAJORITY AND ALSO THE MOST

10:39:53 VULNERABLE.

10:39:53 THANK YOU.

10:39:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:39:55 I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST IN-PERSON SPEAKER.

10:39:58 BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN ITEM

10:40:02 NUMBER 59, WHICH IS -- WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

10:40:06 GUDES.

10:40:06 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:40:08 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:40:09 AYE.

10:40:09 ALL RIGHT.

10:40:10 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO --

10:40:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF MR.

10:40:17 MECHANIK IS ON THE LINE, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF HE

10:40:20 WERE BROUGHT UP.

10:40:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MECHANIK IS ONLINE, PLEASE TURN




10:40:23 ON YOUR CAMERA, WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

10:40:28 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY

10:40:30 THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT

10:40:32 THE TRUTH?

10:40:36 >>DAVID MECHANIK: I DO.

10:40:38 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

10:40:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:40:39 MR. MECHANIK.

10:40:40 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY

10:40:43 NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.

10:40:44 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

10:40:48 WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE EARLIEST AVAILABLE

10:40:53 DATE INASMUCH AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE

10:41:03 TODAY.

10:41:03 YOU MAY RECALL THAT THIS HEARING WAS CONTINUED FROM

10:41:07 FEBRUARY 11th TO TODAY BECAUSE WE ALSO LACKED A FULL

10:41:12 COUNCIL ON THAT EVENING.

10:41:14 SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE SO THAT WE

10:41:20 CAN PRESENT OUR CASE IN FRONT OF THE FULL COUNCIL.

10:41:23 THANK YOU.

10:41:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHICH DATE ARE YOU LOOKING AT, SIR?

10:41:26 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THE SOONEST AVAILABLE THAT -- YOU KNOW,

10:41:31 I DON'T WANT TO PRESUME TO KNOW YOUR CALENDAR.

10:41:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE APRIL 1st AND WE HAVE APRIL

10:41:37 15th.




10:41:37 THOSE ARE THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING DATES.

10:41:39 >>DAVID MECHANIK: APRIL 1st.

10:41:41 THANK YOU.

10:41:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM

10:41:45 NUMBER 59 TO APRIL 1st?

10:41:48 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM

10:41:50 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:41:51 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:41:51 AYE.

10:41:52 ALL RIGHT.

10:41:53 WE'LL SEE YOU APRIL 1st.

10:41:56 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

10:41:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 59 WILL NOT BE HEARD

10:42:00 TODAY.

10:42:00 IT WILL BE HEARD APRIL 1st.

10:42:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:42:04 WE WILL THEN CONTINUE WITH OUR VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT

10:42:09 REGISTRATION.

10:42:10 MADAM CLERK, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THOSE THAT ARE

10:42:13 REGISTERED.

10:42:15 >>THE CLERK: YES, GOOD MORNING.

10:42:17 WE HAVE DANIEL CURCI, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE

10:42:22 YOURSELF.

10:42:23 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

10:42:32 >> GOOD MORNING.




10:42:33 I HOPE I'M UNMUTED.

10:42:35 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.

10:42:37 MY NAME IS DANIEL CURCI.

10:42:40 I'M A REPRESENTATIVE WITH THE LABORS UNION, ONE OF THE 14

10:42:43 TRADES THAT MAKES UP THE FLORIDA GULF COAST BUILDING AND

10:42:46 CONSTRUCTION TRADES.

10:42:47 I'M HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT OUR APPRECIATION

10:42:53 FOR YOU -- APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.

10:42:54 BUILDING TRADES REPRESENTS OVER 750 REGISTERED

10:43:01 APPRENTICES IN THE AREA.

10:43:03 WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO ADDRESSING THE SHORTAGE

10:43:07 OF SKILLED WORKERS HELPING TO REVITALIZE THE LOCAL

10:43:12 WORKFORCE AND HELPING FOLKS ON A PATHWAY TO A CAREER

10:43:16 THROUGH REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP AND TRAINING THAT,

10:43:22 QUITE FRANKLY, HELPS FOLKS MAINTAIN THEIR POSITION IN THE

10:43:24 MIDDLE CLASS.

10:43:26 WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP FROM COUNCIL

10:43:29 MEMBER VIERA, THE REST OF COUNCIL, THE ADMINISTRATION,

10:43:32 THE MAYOR, AND ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE INCLUSION OF

10:43:38 HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION INTO THE ORDINANCE AND JUST ON

10:43:42 BEHALF OF THE SIGNATORY CONTRACTORS WE WORK WITH, I CAN

10:43:47 TELL YOU THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIMISM AND AWARENESS TO BE --

10:43:54 COMPETE ON PROJECTS IN THE TAMPA AREA BECAUSE OF THESE

10:43:56 STANDARDS.

10:43:57 JUST DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.




10:44:00 SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN HELPING TO ADVANCE

10:44:03 THIS.

10:44:05 WE ARE CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO REMAIN INVOLVED AND HELP

10:44:09 OUT IN ANY WAY THROUGHOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS, AND

10:44:14 APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP FROM THE CITY TO TAKE THIS

10:44:18 IMPORTANT STEP.

10:44:18 SO THANK YOU.

10:44:27 >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE, JIM JUNECKO.

10:44:34 PLEASE UNMUTE.

10:44:35 >> HI.

10:44:36 GOOD MORNING.

10:44:36 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, AND GOOD MORNING, CHAIR

10:44:39 MANISCALCO.

10:44:40 MY NAME IS JIM JUNECKO.

10:44:41 I'M THE TREASURER OF THE FLORIDA GULF COAST BUILDING AND

10:44:44 CONSTRUCTION TRADE COUNCIL.

10:44:45 IN ADDITION TO THE 750-PLUS APPRENTICES THAT WE

10:44:50 REPRESENT, WE REPRESENT THOUSANDS OF HARDWORKING

10:44:52 JOURNEYMEN, OPERATORS, JOURNEY-LEVEL OPERATORS AND THEIR

10:44:56 FAMILIES RIGHT HERE IN AND AROUND TAMPA.

10:44:59 I JUST WANT TO BE VERY QUICK AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF

10:45:02 YOUR HARD WORK, ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA FOR

10:45:06 PUTTING TOGETHER THIS LANDMARK ORDINANCE FOR THE PEOPLE

10:45:08 OF CITY OF TAMPA.

10:45:09 IT TRULY IS AN INVESTMENT INTO OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS.




10:45:12 I'M PROUD TO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU THE WHOLE WAY.

10:45:15 I'M GENUINELY PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS MOMENT.

10:45:18 THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU.

10:45:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND THANK YOU, AGAIN,

10:45:21 COUNCILMAN VIERA, FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE

10:45:23 PEOPLE OF TAMPA.

10:45:24 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

10:45:40 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS -- [AUDIO BREAKING UP]

10:45:50 >> HI.

10:45:51 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:45:54 >>THE CLERK: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

10:45:58 >> OKAY.

10:45:59 HI.

10:45:59 MY NAME IS CHELSEA.

10:46:01 I LIVE OFF OF HANNA CLOSE TO CENTRAL AND HANNA

10:46:04 INTERSECTION.

10:46:04 I WANTED TO MAKE MY VOICE HEARD REGARDING THE PROPOSED

10:46:08 MOVE OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

10:46:11 LIKE I SAID, I LIVE CLOSE TO CENTRAL AND HANNA WHICH IS

10:46:14 KIND OF LIKE A HALFWAY POINT ALONG HANNA.

10:46:17 IT'S ALSO WHERE I OFTEN RIDE MY BIKE.

10:46:20 A FEW WEEKS AGO I WAS RIDING MY BIKE WITH FRIENDS AND I

10:46:23 COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE AS WE HEADED OVER ON HANNA

10:46:28 ACROSS 15th THAT THE STREETLIGHTS ARE LIMITED, DIM,

10:46:31 BROKEN OR NONEXISTING.




10:46:33 ROADS ARE CRUMBLING IN NEED OF REPAIR.

10:46:35 UNSURPRISINGLY, THIS IS A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK

10:46:38 NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS 15th STREET.

10:46:40 IT'S OBVIOUS THAT IT LACKS A LOT OF ATTENTION AND

10:46:43 INVESTMENT FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

10:46:44 THEY LACK BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEIR BASIC SAFETY TO

10:46:49 BE QUITE HONEST.

10:46:51 SURPRISINGLY, THE OTHER HALF OF HANNA, QUOTE, THE

10:46:53 HISTORIC HOMES, STREETS ARE WIDE.

10:46:56 NEIGHBORS WALK THEIR DOGS.

10:46:57 WELL LIT AT ALL HOURS.

10:46:58 YOU CAN TELL THERE IS A LOT MORE INVESTMENT THAT GOES

10:47:01 INTO THAT AREA.

10:47:02 YOU COULD SAY IT'S COINCIDENTAL BUT CONSIDERING WHAT I'VE

10:47:07 NOTICED ACROSS THE PATTERN OF FUNDING FOR ALL OF TAMPA, I

10:47:10 DID ACTUALLY -- CHOICE OF TAMPA GOVERNMENT AND HURTS

10:47:16 PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND LATINX COMMUNITIES IN TAMPA, MOST

10:47:20 OF WHICH FAMILIES A LONG PART OF TAMPA AND WHO HAVE,

10:47:23 QUITE FRANKLY, MADE IT WHAT IT IS.

10:47:24 THE FUNDING INVESTMENT IN TAMPA IS NOT EQUAL AND THERE

10:47:27 ARE A DOZEN OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD BE FUNDED AND INVEST

10:47:32 IN OUR COMMUNITIES IN WAYS THAT MATTER, LIKE SOME OF THE

10:47:34 EFFORTS AND TRAINING OF EDUCATION THAT WERE MENTIONED

10:47:37 EARLIER.

10:47:37 THE VERY LAST THING WE NEED IS A HEAVIER POLICE PRESENCE




10:47:41 IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

10:47:41 JUST LAST MONTH, I WAS TRYING TO PROTECT A POLICE OFFICER

10:47:44 WHO WAS ONE OF EIGHT TO TEN THAT WERE ARRESTING A MINOR.

10:47:47 I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND SUPERVISION OF THE

10:47:50 CHILD AND THE POLICE REFUSED TO ANSWER MY QUESTION,

10:47:53 TELLING ME THEY DIDN'T OWE ME ANYTHING AND TELLING ME TO

10:47:55 MIND MY BUSINESS, AND THEY EVEN ATTEMPTED TO PHYSICALLY

10:48:00 INTIMIDATE ME.

10:48:02 IT IS MY BUSINESS.

10:48:03 IT IS MY COMMUNITY, IT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ARE MY

10:48:05 NEIGHBORS.

10:48:05 I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE THERE TO

10:48:08 SERVE OR PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVE NO INTEREST

10:48:11 IN DOING SO.

10:48:12 I KNOW THEY CONTINUE TO STALK, HARASS, TERRORIZE THE

10:48:15 BLACK NEIGHBORS THAT I LIVE NEAR.

10:48:18 I'VE SEEN IT SAID THAT THE PROJECT WILL CREATE JOBS FOR

10:48:21 CONSTRUCTION AND FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE.

10:48:24 SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT THE

10:48:26 JOBS WILL ACTUALLY GO TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND

10:48:29 WHETHER THE CONSTRUCTION --

10:48:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU STILL HAVE 30 SECONDS.

10:48:38 DID WE LOSE THE CALLER?

10:48:45 OKAY.

10:48:46 ALL RIGHT.




10:48:47 THEN THE NEXT PERSON.

10:48:50 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARON GRAHAM.

10:48:52 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:48:54 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:48:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHARON GRAHAM.

10:48:56 GO AHEAD, IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:49:01 >> HI.

10:49:01 THANK YOU.

10:49:02 MADAM CLERK, MR. CHAIR, AND GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.

10:49:06 MY NAME IS SHARON GRAHAM.

10:49:08 I'M A BUSINESS OWNER OF EIGHT YEARS IN TAMPA WHO CHOOSES

10:49:13 TO LIVE HERE AND FACILITATE JOBS AND BUILD A TEAM SERVING

10:49:16 OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF ITS BEAUTY AND POTENTIAL.

10:49:19 I AM HERE TO URGE YOUR STRONG SUPPORT OF OUR TRANSITION

10:49:22 TO A CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE BY 2030.

10:49:26 PLEASE DO CONTINUE WITH THIS GOAL.

10:49:28 TAMPA MUST TRANSITION FROM FOSSIL FUELS BY FOCUSING ON

10:49:32 ENERGY EFFICIENCY UPGRADES THAT ARE INEXPENSIVE, QUICK,

10:49:36 AND FEASIBLE.

10:49:38 A TRANSITION TO CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY WILL ALLOW THE

10:49:41 CITY TO INVEST IN GOOD HIGH-PAYING JOBS WITHIN THE

10:49:45 COMMUNITY, FROM INSTALLATION TO ENERGY UPGRADES, TO CITY

10:49:50 INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS MUCH NEEDED.

10:49:53 CONVERTING THE FLEET TO ELECTRIC WILL REDUCE SMOG AND

10:49:57 RESPIRATORY DISTRESS FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, THE MAJORITY OF




10:50:01 WHOM ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

10:50:03 WE MUST SHIFT THE ENERGY BURDEN OFF OF OUR RESIDENTS WITH

10:50:06 THE FEWEST RESOURCES BY ALLEVIATING THE SITUATIONS THAT

10:50:10 CAUSE THEIR HOMES TO USE MORE ENERGY, WHICH ARE A LACK OF

10:50:14 ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND THE NEED FOR WEATHERIZATION

10:50:18 UPGRADES.

10:50:18 WE MUST ALSO MAKE OUR CITY MORE WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE AND

10:50:23 WORK WITH TECO AND HART TO INCREASE ACCESS TO CHARGING

10:50:26 FOR ELECTRICAL VEHICLES AND CLEAN ELECTRIC PUBLIC

10:50:32 TRANSPORTATION.

10:50:32 167 CITIES, 12 COUNTIES AND EIGHT STATES, THAT'S OVER 100

10:50:40 MILLION AMERICANS NOW LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS ALREADY

10:50:45 FORMALLY COMMITTED AND WORKING TOWARDS A GOAL OF 100%

10:50:50 RENEWABLE ENERGY FOR BOTH MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS AND THEIR

10:50:54 ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

10:50:56 TAMPA SHOULD JOIN THESE LEADING MUNICIPALITIES, COUNTIES

10:51:01 AND STATES, WHO ARE ALREADY WORKING TOWARDS MOVING TO A

10:51:05 100% CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE.

10:51:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:51:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:51:11 NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

10:51:13 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS BROOK.

10:51:17 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE

10:51:19 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:51:21 >> GOOD MORNING.




10:51:22 COUNCIL MEMBERS.

10:51:22 IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU.

10:51:25 MY NAME IS BROOKE ERIC, SENIOR ORGANIZER FOR FOOD AND

10:51:29 WATER WATCH FLORIDA.

10:51:31 I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR OVER 2500 TAMPA MEMBERS.

10:51:35 I'M COMING HERE TODAY ACTUALLY TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF

10:51:39 SEVERAL DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TODAY

10:51:42 BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY AT A PLACE WHERE ALL OF THESE

10:51:44 OVERLAP.

10:51:45 IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

10:51:49 AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU AS OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW

10:51:55 REALLY HAVE THE INTENT TO DO, AND WE'RE IN A POSITION

10:51:57 WHERE WE CAN DO THAT.

10:51:58 YOU'VE BEEN HEARING MANY SPEAK OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT,

10:52:05 PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING, JOBS ARE BEING LOST.

10:52:07 HOMES ARE IN DISREPAIR.

10:52:09 PEOPLE'S POWER BEING TURNED OFF, AND THERE'S A HUNDRED

10:52:14 MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT SLATED TO JUST CONTINUE THE SAME

10:52:18 PROBLEMATIC BEHAVIOR, TO OVER-POLICE THE RESIDENTS OF

10:52:21 THIS COMMUNITY AND FAIL TO INVEST IN ACTUALLY BUILDING

10:52:24 THE COMMUNITY UP.

10:52:25 A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS CAN DO A LOT.

10:52:27 A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS CAN HELP TO WEATHERIZE THESE

10:52:31 HOMES.

10:52:31 A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS CAN HELP TO INVEST IN GREEN




10:52:34 JOBS, CREATING MANY, MANY MORE THAN 500 JOBS IN THIS

10:52:38 NEIGHBORHOOD, AND JOBS FOR THE RESIDENTS.

10:52:40 IT GOES ALONG HAND WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.

10:52:45 WE CAN DO TRAINING OF TRADES.

10:52:46 WE CAN INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THESE HOMES AREN'T

10:52:49 SITTING IN STANDING WATER.

10:52:50 THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU AS CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE REAL

10:52:53 STEPS TO DO, TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND AT THE SAME

10:52:59 TIME BE ACTING TO AVOID CLIMATE DISASTER.

10:53:02 WE KNOW WE HAVE -- WE KNOW THAT THERE'S FLOODING AND SEA

10:53:06 LEVEL RISKS THAT COME TO OUR CITY AND ARE ALREADY HERE.

10:53:10 WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE NEARLY $9 BILLION WORTH OF PROPERTY

10:53:15 VALUE LOST IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS IF WE DON'T ACT ON

10:53:20 CLIMATE CHANGE.

10:53:20 THIS IMPACTS OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

10:53:23 YOU CAN START INVESTING NOW.

10:53:24 THIS STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING IN TALLAHASSEE, IT IS AN

10:53:27 ATROCITY.

10:53:28 IT IS A DIRECT AFFRONT FROM THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY

10:53:31 THAT'S HAPPENING IN 13 OTHER STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY,

10:53:34 AND THEY ARE USING US AS A SCAPEGOAT AND THEY ARE GOING

10:53:38 TO TRY TO PUSH BACK.

10:53:39 THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO PUSH BACK HARDER.

10:53:41 I KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE MEMBER ON THIS COUNCIL IS

10:53:44 COMMITTED TO CLEAN ENERGY.




10:53:46 SO LET'S KILL THESE BAD PREEMPTION BILLS.

10:53:48 COUNCIL NEEDS TO REACH OUT TO OUR LEGISLATORS, TAMPA

10:53:53 REPRESENTATIVE TOLEDO WHO CHAIRS THE NEXT COMMITTEE IN

10:53:55 THE HOUSE AND CAN STOP THESE BILLS.

10:53:58 ALREADY DIDN'T SCHEDULE THEM THIS WEEK, AND SHE CAN STOP

10:54:01 THEM NEXT WEEK, PLEASE, CALL HER AND LET HER KNOW.

10:54:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:54:07 THANK YOU.

10:54:07 NEXT SPEAKER.

10:54:07 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS ANGEL D'ANGELO.

10:54:11 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:54:13 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:54:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

10:54:16 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:54:16 THIS IS ANGEL D'ANGELO, BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA FLORIDA

10:54:20 OFF OF CENTRAL AVENUE WHICH USED TO BE THE HISTORIC, A

10:54:23 ONCE VIBRANT BLACK COMMUNITY THAT WAS GENTRIFIED AND

10:54:27 DESTROYED.

10:54:27 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN EAST TAMPA IF

10:54:30 THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, WHICH I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT IT

10:54:34 WILL BE APPROVED BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW IT GOES.

10:54:36 BUT I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON THE RECORD IN MY OPPOSITION FOR

10:54:39 THAT $100 MILLION PROJECT.

10:54:41 NO MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON THAT WHILE WE HAVE 19% OF THE

10:54:44 CITY AT OR BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.




10:54:47 MOST OF WHICH RESIDE IN EAST TAMPA NOT BECAUSE OF

10:54:50 ANYTHING ANYBODY IN EAST TAMPA HAS DONE THAT IS WRONG BUT

10:54:52 BECAUSE OF SYSTEMIC INJUSTICES, RACISM, WHITE SUPREMACY,

10:54:58 PATRIARCH, ALL THOSE THINGS YOU HEAR US TALKING ABOUT.

10:55:02 I WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN PERSON TODAY, BUT I'M NOT

10:55:04 FEELING WELL.

10:55:05 I ELECTED NOT TO.

10:55:06 IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T CARE.

10:55:08 I DO SUPPORT THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM BEING APPROVED,

10:55:11 AND I SUPPORT US GOING TOWARDS CLEAN ENERGY.

10:55:13 IT'S A GOOD MOVE.

10:55:15 THOSE ARE MOVES THAT MAKE SENSE.

10:55:17 THIS $100 MILLION INVESTMENT, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS

10:55:19 COULD BAIL OUT HOW MANY STRUGGLING BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY

10:55:22 BLACK BUSINESSES IN TAMPA THAT HAD TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS

10:55:26 BECAUSE OF COVID.

10:55:27 A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS COULD HOUSE AT LEAST, COULD PAY

10:55:30 THE MORTGAGES AND/OR RENT OF AT LEAST 8,000 RESIDENTS IN

10:55:33 TAMPA.

10:55:34 INSTEAD, YOU WANT TO DO THIS PROJECT THAT'S JUST GOING TO

10:55:37 LEAD TO GENTRIFICATION AND DESTROY WHAT IS LEFT OF THE

10:55:42 BEAUTY AND INTENT OF EAST TAMPA AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

10:55:45 I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PEOPLE

10:55:47 ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

10:55:48 THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC.




10:55:49 WHAT A GREAT CONCERN.

10:55:51 TRAFFIC.

10:55:51 WE KNOW WHAT TPD IS ABOUT.

10:55:54 ASIDE FROM THAT, IF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WANTS TO FEEL SAFER

10:55:58 THEY NEED TO BUILD MORE McDONALD'S AND NOT TPD.

10:56:02 WE SAW THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS KILLING.

10:56:04 BLACK WOMAN MANAGER AT McDONALD'S.

10:56:05 NOT CHIEF DUGAN, NOT TPD.

10:56:08 IT DOES NOT KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE.

10:56:10 YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP HEARING ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU DO

10:56:12 SOMETHING DRASTICALLY, DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT, BECAUSE

10:56:15 THIS JUST IS NOT WORKING.

10:56:17 13% OF THE CITY OF TAMPA LIVE WITHOUT HEALTH CARE

10:56:20 INSURANCE.

10:56:21 CAN'T SEE A DOCTOR THAT INCLUDES MENTAL HEALTH.

10:56:24 YOU APPROVE PACKAGE STORES IN EAST TAMPA WHEN YOU KNOW

10:56:29 THAT IT CAUSES BLIGHT AND WHAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER

10:56:33 REFERRED TO AS SYSTEMIC SLUMMING.

10:56:35 WHY?

10:56:35 I KNOW WHY.

10:56:37 I KNOW THE ANSWERS.

10:56:38 YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

10:56:40 YOU ALL SAID AFTER YOU VOTED YES ON THAT PACKAGE, YOU ALL

10:56:43 NAMED THE VIOLENCE IT CAUSED BUT YOU STILL VOTED YES WITH

10:56:45 YOUR WHOLE HEARTS.




10:56:46 WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO CONVINCE YOU?

10:56:51 THANK YOU.

10:56:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:56:54 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS STEVE MICHELINI.

10:56:56 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:56:59 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:57:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MICHELINI.

10:57:01 MR. MICHELINI, IF YOU'RE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:57:09 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.

10:57:13 >> I'M UP.

10:57:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:57:14 GO AHEAD, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

10:57:15 DON'T MUTE YOURSELF.

10:57:17 UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

10:57:24 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

10:57:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.

10:57:26 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.

10:57:27 >> OKAY.

10:57:28 I'M CALLING REGARDING THIS PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE PARKING

10:57:31 ORDINANCE FOR DOWNTOWN AND METERED PARKING.

10:57:34 THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS REGARDING ITEM THREE, WHICH IS --

10:57:42 IT SAYS WHITING STREET SOUTH, KENNEDY NORTH, AND ASHLEY

10:57:45 WEST, NEBRASKA EAST.

10:57:47 THOSE ARE WRONG.

10:57:49 IT SHOULD BE KENNEDY OR WHITING ON THE SOUTH.




10:57:53 THE NORTH BOUNDARY SHOULD BE CASS OR TYLER, NOT KENNEDY

10:57:57 BECAUSE YOU'VE ELIMINATED ALL OF THE AREAS THAT YOU WERE

10:58:01 TRYING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FOR NO FEES ON SUNDAY.

10:58:06 I WANTED TO BRING ANOTHER ISSUE TO YOUR ATTENTION.

10:58:09 IT ALLOWS FOR METERED PARKING AT THE BEACHES, THE PARKS,

10:58:13 AND THE RECREATION AREAS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

10:58:18 JUST A GENERAL NOTE, THAT TO ME, WHO GOES TO THE PARKS,

10:58:25 NOT JUST THE WEALTHY PEOPLE, BUT THE POOR PEOPLE.

10:58:27 DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PUT METERS AT THE RECREATION

10:58:31 CENTERS?

10:58:31 BUT ANYWAY, THE DESCRIPTION ON NUMBER THREE IN THE

10:58:36 ORDINANCE IS WRONG.

10:58:39 I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY GOT THAT FROM, BUT THEY

10:58:42 SAID THEY COPIED IT FROM THE OLD ORDINANCE, BUT IT

10:58:45 SHOULDN'T BE KENNEDY ON THE NORTH.

10:58:49 AND THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THAT -- I MEAN, I JUST THINK YOU

10:58:54 NEED TO FIX IT.

10:58:55 I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO ADOPT THIS, TO GO BACK AND FIX

10:58:58 THOSE DESCRIPTIONS BEFORE YOU CONSIDER THIS AS FIRST

10:59:03 READING.

10:59:04 WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND

10:59:09 PREVIOUSLY, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP

10:59:13 WAS BEHIND THIS, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD MADE A

10:59:16 MISTAKE IN NOT REACHING OUT TO THE OTHER OPERATIONS THAT

10:59:19 OCCURRED ON SUNDAY, AND THEY APOLOGIZED.




10:59:23 THEY WERE NO LONGER OPPOSED TO THE PARKING, TO CHARGING.

10:59:30 THEY WERE SUPPORTING NO-FEE PARKING ON SUNDAYS UNTIL

10:59:34 2 P.M.

10:59:35 THE OTHER ITEM IS IN THAT ORDINANCE IT SAYS 1 P.M. AND

10:59:38 NOT 2 P.M.

10:59:40 SO THOSE ISSUES DON'T FOLLOW THE MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE

10:59:42 BY COUNCIL.

10:59:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YES, SIR.

10:59:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

10:59:49 MR. CHAIRMAN, I -- AS MR. MICHELINI WAS SPEAKING, I

10:59:57 LOOKED AT MINE ON PAGE 2, AND WHAT I READ WITH THE

10:59:58 EXCEPTIONS, SUNDAYS FROM 8 A.M. TO 2 P.M., ALL METERED

11:00:02 PARKING LOCATED ON, BOUNDED BY, INCLUDING KENNEDY

11:00:05 BOULEVARD TO THE SOUTH BY INCLUDING SCOTT STREET TO THE

11:00:10 NORTH, BY INCLUDING ASHLEY TO THE WEST, AND BY INCLUDING

11:00:13 NEBRASKA TO THE EAST.

11:00:16 DOESN'T THAT COVER WHAT WE SAID?

11:00:21 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR, THAT DOES.

11:00:22 BUT THE COPY I HAVE SAYS KENNEDY TO THE NORTH.

11:00:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MINE SAYS KENNEDY TO THE SOUTH.

11:00:29 I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY.

11:00:33 THAT'S WHY I WENT TO LOOK AT IT.

11:00:35 PAGE NUMBER 2 OF THE ITEM NUMBER 4.

11:00:43 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THEY SENT

11:00:47 YESTERDAY.




11:00:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT DISPUTING, MR. MICHELINI.

11:00:51 I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I HAVE IN MINE ON ITEM NUMBER 4.

11:00:54 >>STEVE MICHELINI: IF IT SAYS SOUTH, I MEAN AND SCOTT ON

11:00:57 THE NORTH, THAT'S FINE.

11:01:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT MINE SAYS.

11:01:01 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY.

11:01:04 KENNEDY TO THE SOUTH --

11:01:08 >>GINA GRIMES: THIS IS GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.

11:01:10 I THINK JEAN DUNCAN WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN.

11:01:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. DUNCAN, GO AHEAD.

11:01:15 >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR.

11:01:17 JUST TO CLARIFY, AS THE CHAIR INDICATED EARLIER THIS

11:01:21 MORNING, WE WERE GOING TO COMBINE ITEMS NUMBER 4 AND

11:01:24 NUMBER 69.

11:01:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE'LL DISCUSS IT LATER.

11:01:28 >>JEAN DUNCAN: TWO ORDINANCES FOR CONSIDERATION.

11:01:31 ONE IS THE ORIGINAL -- I'LL CALL IT THE ORIGINAL

11:01:34 ORDINANCE FROM LAST YEAR, APOLOGIZE, DON'T HAVE THE DATE

11:01:39 RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

11:01:40 BUT IT WAS REPEALED A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND THAT ORDINANCE

11:01:44 HAS COME BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE COUNCIL WITH THE

11:01:48 LATEST VERSION BEING THE BOUNDARIES THAT MR. MIRANDA JUST

11:01:56 DESCRIBED, THAT IS THE NEWEST ORDINANCE THAT STAFF IS

11:01:59 PROPOSING.

11:01:59 THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT WAS REPEALED SOME MONTHS AGO




11:02:03 WAS ALSO PUT BACK ON FOR CONSIDERATION UNDER ITEM 69.

11:02:08 THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS.

11:02:10 THERE ARE TWO ORDINANCES BEING CONSIDERED FOR DISCUSSION

11:02:14 THIS AFTERNOON WHEN WE GET TO THAT PART OF THE AGENDA.

11:02:16 I HOPE THAT CLEARS IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

11:02:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:02:20 WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT THEN.

11:02:22 YES, COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:02:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIDE NOTE, HE MAY HAVE MENTIONED ABOUT

11:02:27 METERS AT RECREATIONAL CENTERS.

11:02:28 I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THAT.

11:02:30 I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT.

11:02:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: METERS AT RECREATIONAL CENTERS.

11:02:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD WE PICK THAT UP --

11:02:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE'LL BRING IT UP THIS

11:02:38 AFTERNOON.

11:02:38 METERS AT RECREATIONAL CENTERS IS ANOTHER POINT THERE

11:02:42 THAT WE'LL DISCUSS.

11:02:43 ALL RIGHT.

11:02:44 ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?

11:02:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.

11:02:48 THANK YOU.

11:02:48 THAT'S IT AT THIS TIME.

11:02:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:02:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MICHELINI.




11:02:52 ALSO, JUST FOR CLARITY FOR THE RECORD, CONTINUED ITEM 59

11:02:57 BUT DID NOT SET A TIME.

11:02:58 THE TIME WILL BE FOR 10:30 ON APRIL 1st JUST FOR --

11:03:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS MR. MECHANIK STILL ON THE LINE, DO

11:03:07 YOU KNOW IF HE IS STILL THERE?

11:03:09 IF WE COULD HAVE THE MOTION TO AMEND THAT TO ENSURE THAT

11:03:17 THE TIME IS NOTED AT 10:30 A.M.

11:03:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:03:21 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:03:22 THIS IS TO CLARIFY ITEM 59 WILL BE FOR APRIL 1st AT

11:03:26 10:30 A.M.

11:03:27 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:03:28 ANY OPPOSED?

11:03:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

11:03:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED

11:03:32 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

11:03:34 >>THE CLERK: YES.

11:03:36 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PRISCILLA PARTAW.

11:03:39 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

11:03:41 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

11:03:43 >> HI.

11:03:44 MY NAME IS PRISCILLA PARTAW.

11:03:47 I LIVE IN THE SOUTH COMMUNITY.

11:03:49 I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL.

11:03:50 ONE, THE STATE PASSED THE PERIL OF FOOD ACT IN 2015.




11:03:55 THE LANGUAGE FROM THAT LAW WAS ADDED TO THE COMP PLAN,

11:03:59 BUT EXACTLY WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE AND HOW THE CITY

11:04:02 EVALUATES REZONING APPLICATIONS.

11:04:03 TWO, WHEN IS THE CITY GOING TO START DOING THE ANNUAL

11:04:08 REVIEW OF THE EFFECTIVE NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THE EVACUATION

11:04:12 TIMES THAT IS REQUIRED BY CM 1.2.3 IN THE COMP PLAN.

11:04:18 THREE, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND BE

11:04:23 SAFELY EVACUATED IN AN EMERGENCY?

11:04:26 FOUR, I HAVE HEARD MANY BUILDERS SAY THEIR REZONING

11:04:31 SHOULD BE APPROVED BECAUSE THE CITY NEEDS AFFORDABLE

11:04:34 HOUSING.

11:04:36 HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE BUILT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SOUTH

11:04:39 TAMPA SIMILAR TO THE SCHOONER WHICH HAS AN INCOME-BASED

11:04:44 RENT?

11:04:45 ADDITIONALLY, HOW MUCH IS RENT FOR THEIR APARTMENTS?

11:04:49 I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME SO YOU CAN ANSWER THESE

11:04:51 QUESTIONS.

11:04:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING UP THIS

11:04:58 DISCUSSION IN TWO WEEKS, BUT PUBLIC COMMENT IS JUST FOR

11:05:03 GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:05:04 WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION IN TWO WEEKS.

11:05:06 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO CHIME IN OR WAIT UNTIL

11:05:10 THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS CONTINUED?

11:05:12 ALL RIGHT.

11:05:13 WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE DISCUSSION COMES UP THAT




11:05:17 IT'S BEEN CONTINUED, BUT WE HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN

11:05:20 WE CAN DISCUSS EVERYTHING THEN.

11:05:22 >> THANK YOU.

11:05:23 AND SINCE YOU DO HAVE THE LIST OF MY QUESTIONS, I JUST

11:05:26 WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY BE ANSWERED IN WRITING AS SOON AS

11:05:29 POSSIBLE OR AT THAT MEETING.

11:05:33 THANK YOU.

11:05:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:05:33 WHO IS THE NEXT SPEAKER?

11:05:37 >>THE CLERK: THE LAST REGISTERED SPEAKER IS JEAN STEREO

11:05:41 MYER.

11:05:41 IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

11:05:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JEAN STROHMEYER.

11:05:49 >> HELLO.

11:05:50 I'M JUST CALLING ABOUT, I'M JEAN STROHMEYER WITH INTERBAY

11:05:57 SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

11:05:59 I'M SURE YOU'VE GOTTEN THE MESSAGES FROM THE PEOPLE WHO

11:06:01 LIVE DOWN HERE REGARDING ITEM 74.

11:06:04 I KNOW IT'S BEEN POSTPONED BUT WE DO NEED SOME SORT OF

11:06:08 RESOLUTION ON THIS MATTER.

11:06:09 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A MORATORIUM.

11:06:17 I SAW A MEMO IN THE SIRE THAT SAID THE RESOLUTION, IF

11:06:25 IT'S APPROVED, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WILL BE

11:06:28 DIRECTED TO NOT ACCEPT APPLICATIONS TO AMEND THE

11:06:31 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE CITY WILL NOT ACCEPT




11:06:33 APPLICATIONS FOR REZONING THAT FALL WITHIN EITHER OF THE

11:06:38 TWO DESCRIBED CATEGORIES, WHICH IS THE MULTIFAMILY, THE

11:06:44 FAR, AND THE TEN PERCENT.

11:06:46 AND IT SHOWS IN HERE NOTWITHSTANDING THIS IS A MEMO DATED

11:06:50 MARCH 11, AND IT JUST SHOWS THAT THE APPLICATIONS WILL BE

11:06:59 PROHIBITED.

11:07:00 THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION THAT WE EVER UNDERSTOOD.

11:07:03 SO WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE APPLICATIONS WILL STILL MOVE

11:07:07 FORWARD ON BOTH OF THOSE MATTERS.

11:07:09 WE ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN THEY DO MOVE FORWARD, THAT

11:07:14 THEY WILL BE UNDER THE PENDING ORDINANCE SOLUTION, WHICH

11:07:17 MEANS THEY WILL STILL GO FORWARD AND THEY WILL GO FORWARD

11:07:21 ACCORDING TO THE UNMORATORIUM MORATORIUM.

11:07:26 ALSO, I REQUEST THAT ALL THE MESSAGES THAT WERE LEFT BY

11:07:32 OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY LEFT A MESSAGE FOR YOU GUYS TO LISTEN

11:07:36 TO.

11:07:37 WE HEARD LAST SESSION THERE WAS AT LEAST 35 MESSAGES THAT

11:07:40 WERE LISTENED TO BY EAST TAMPA AND WE REQUEST THE SAME

11:07:44 COURTESY AND WE WOULD LIKE THOSE TO BE LISTENED TO IN

11:07:47 PUBLIC AS THEY WERE PROMISED.

11:07:49 I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO READDRESS THIS MATTER NEXT TIME ON

11:07:52 APRIL 1st.

11:07:53 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

11:07:55 YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

11:07:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




11:07:57 THAT'S THE LAST REGISTERED SPEAKER.

11:07:58 BUT BEFORE WE GO TO RECORDED MESSAGES, WE HAD -- SANDY

11:08:05 SANCHEZ FROM THE ARMORY GARDENS ASSOCIATION WAS NOT ABLE

11:08:08 TO LEAVE A VOICE MAIL BECAUSE THE SYSTEM HAD OVERLOADED,

11:08:14 AND SHE E-MAILED ME.

11:08:16 THIS IS ALSO ON BEHALF OF MRS. MARTHA VILA.

11:08:21 AGAIN, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO LEAVE A VOICE MAIL BECAUSE

11:08:23 THE SYSTEM WAS OVERLOADED.

11:08:25 I'LL READ IT QUICKLY.

11:08:27 THIS IS ABOUT VILA BROTHERS PARK.

11:08:29 IT IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISSUE FROM EVERYTHING ELSE.

11:08:31 THESE ARE THE WORDS OF SANDY SANCHEZ.

11:08:33 WE WOULD LIKE THE ADA FOOTPRINT AT THE VILA BROTHERS PARK

11:08:36 TO IMPROVE.

11:08:37 WE HAVE ONE PARKING PLACE POORLY LOCATED.

11:08:39 THE PARKING PLACE IS ON CASS.

11:08:40 THE ENTRY NEXT TO THE ONE HANDICAP PARKING PLACE IS NOT

11:08:43 WIDE ENOUGH FOR A WHEELCHAIR.

11:08:44 IF THEY COULD UTILIZE THIS ENTRY, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO

11:08:47 CROSS A VERY ACTIVE BASKETBALL COURT.

11:08:50 INSTEAD, ONCE THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR CAR, THEY HAVE TO

11:08:52 TURN NORTH ON ARMENIA TO ARRIVE AT THE ADA ENTRANCE WHICH

11:08:56 IS ANOTHER 40 TO 50 FEET FROM THE PARKING SPACE.

11:09:00 ONCE THEY GET TO THE ENTRANCE THEY CAN GO TO THE

11:09:02 PLAYGROUND, A SHORT SIDEWALK AND THAT'S IT.




11:09:04 THE LAST MAJOR ITEMS TO COMPLETE IN THE VILA BROTHERS

11:09:07 PARK ARE A WALKING TRAIL AND DOG PARK.

11:09:09 WE WOULD LIKE CITY COUNCIL TO ENCOURAGE PARKS AND REC TO

11:09:12 MAKE THE VILA BROTHERS MORE ACCOMMODATING FOR THE

11:09:14 DISABLED, IMPROVED PARKING WITH MORE HANDICAP PARKING AND

11:09:17 EASIER ACCESS, MAKE SURE THE WALKING TRAIL IS LARGE

11:09:20 ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE WHEELCHAIRS AND MAKE THE DOG PARK

11:09:23 ADA COMPLIANT.

11:09:24 THESE ARE THE THREE ADA COMPLIANT DOG PARKS ACCORDING TO

11:09:27 PARKS AND REC WEBSITE.

11:09:28 ALL THREE ARE DOWNTOWN, TWO ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER AT THE

11:09:31 RIVER LOCATED IN A DESOLATE AREA UNDER THE SELMON

11:09:35 EXPRESSWAY BEHIND THE TRAIN STATION.

11:09:36 A VERY LARGE NEW PARK JUST VERY ISOLATED.

11:09:39 I'VE TAKEN MY DOGS TWICE BUT SINCE NO ONE ELSE WAS THERE

11:09:42 WHEN I LEFT.

11:09:43 THE VILA BROTHERS PARK IS A PATRIOTIC PARK DEDICATED TO

11:09:46 THE VETERANS ALL VETERANS.

11:09:48 IMPROVING THE PARK TO ACCOMMODATE ALL VETERANS IN THE

11:09:50 COMMUNITY WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE VILA FAMILY'S VISION.

11:09:52 IMPROVING THE ADA CONDITIONS WOULD APPEAR TO BE A LOGICAL

11:09:55 CONCLUSION.

11:09:56 AGAIN, SANDY SANCHEZ.

11:09:57 I BELIEVE THE SAME WORDS WERE COMING FROM MRS. MARTHA

11:10:01 VILA.




11:10:02 I WANT TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD BECAUSE THEY WERE

11:10:05 UNABLE TO ACCESS THE VOICE MAIL SYSTEM.

11:10:08 HAVING SAID THAT, WE'LL GO TO THE VOICE MAILS.

11:10:14 >> HI.

11:10:14 MY NAME IS BERNICE.

11:10:15 I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA.

11:10:17 I'M CALLING BECAUSE I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE VOTING

11:10:21 FOR OVER $6 MILLION FOR A DEMOLITION PROCESS TO START AN

11:10:26 OVER HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT FOR A CITY CENTER IN

11:10:29 EAST TAMPA.

11:10:29 WHICH WILL UNFORTUNATELY MOVE TAMPA'S POLICE HEADQUARTERS

11:10:36 RIGHT INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

11:10:38 WHILE THIS MIGHT GENERATE 500 JOBS, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S

11:10:43 NOT ENOUGH, AND WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE

11:10:47 STRUGGLING TO PAY RENT AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE STRUGGLING

11:10:52 RIGHT NOW THAN WE NEED.

11:10:57 WE NEED TO INVEST THAT MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY.

11:11:02 AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK OUT IN FAVOR OF READY FOR 100.

11:11:09 I BELIEVE THAT TAMPA SHOULD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE MOVE TO

11:11:13 100% CLEAN ENERGY.

11:11:15 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:11:19 >> GOOD DAY.

11:11:19 MY NAME IS DAVID SINCLAIR.

11:11:21 8434 PEBBLE CIRCLE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

11:11:24 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL 7259 OF THE LEAGUE OF




11:11:33 UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS.

11:11:35 I AM SPEAKING TODAY TO THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THE TAMPA

11:11:37 CITY COUNCIL WILL STAY THE COURSE AND SUPPORT A

11:11:42 RESOLUTION TO LEAD THIS GREAT CITY TOWARD A 100% CLEAN

11:11:48 AND RENEWABLE FUTURE BY 2030.

11:11:50 IN THE MIDST OF OUR MULTIPLE PERSONAL TRIALS IN DEALING

11:11:55 WITH THE CURRENT STATE LEGISLATURE STRUGGLES WITH THOSE

11:11:59 VARIOUS BILLS DEALING WITH PREEMPTION OF LOCAL DECISION

11:12:05 MAKING EFFORTS, I DO WITNESS THE MANY CITIZENS IN OUR

11:12:10 FLORIDA CITIES ARE IN FEAR OF WHAT I WILL CALL A

11:12:13 POTENTIAL POWER GRAB BY THE STATE ON THE ISSUE OF HOME

11:12:17 RULE ON ENERGY-RELATED LEGISLATION.

11:12:20 THIS GATHERING TODAY BY MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY

11:12:24 COUNCIL, A MOMENT TO CAPITULATE, FEAR AND TREPIDATION

11:12:30 THAT YOUR PREVIOUSLY COURAGEOUS PRONOUNCEMENTS THAT TAMPA

11:12:35 MUST MOVE TOWARD A NEW AND CLEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY HORIZON

11:12:40 WILL IT HAVE BE IN VAIN IN PREEMPTION BILLS BECOME A LAW?

11:12:47 A LEGACY WHICH WOULD SAY THAT YOU WERE READY TO BACKTRACK

11:12:52 TODAY IN YOUR VERBAL COMMITMENTS UNDER THREATS THAT

11:12:55 PREEMPTION BILLS WOULD SILENCE YOUR COURAGE?

11:12:59 STAY FIRM AND DO NOT BACKTRACK.

11:13:01 TAMPA AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA NEED YOUR SPINE.

11:13:05 JUST PONDER AGAIN ON THE HEALTH IMPACTS TO TAMPANIANS OF

11:13:11 SUPPORTING A RESOLUTION TO LEAD US TO 100% CLEAN AND

11:13:16 RENEWABLE ENERGY FUTURE BY 2030.




11:13:19 WHY AM I SO PASSIONATE?

11:13:21 IT IS BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO MORALLY.

11:13:26 THANK YOU.

11:13:29 >> GOOD MORNING.

11:13:30 MY NAME IS DR. DOMINIC CASTELLANO.

11:13:32 I LIVE AT 5805 MARINER.

11:13:35 I'M CALLING TO JUST EXPRESS MY CONCERN FOR THE CURRENT

11:13:38 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TAKING PLACE, PARTICULARLY IN THE

11:13:41 SOUTH TAMPA AREA ALONG THE WESTSHORE CORRIDOR.

11:13:45 PERSONALLY, SPEAKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE'RE DEVELOPING

11:13:48 TOO FAST.

11:13:49 WESTSHORE IS ALREADY OVERCROWDED, PARTICULARLY ON THE

11:13:52 SOUTH SIDE DEVELOPMENT AND ON THE NORTH SIDE ASPECT, THE

11:13:56 DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN MY AREA WHERE I

11:13:59 LIVE ARE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE 1500 UNIT

11:14:02 PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY PLANNED FOR THE WESTSHORE MALL

11:14:05 REDEVELOPMENT INVOLVING SEARS.

11:14:08 IN ADDITION, THE GEORGETOWN PROJECT IN THE MID PORTION OF

11:14:14 WESTSHORE HAS NOT EVEN BEEN FULLY REALIZED.

11:14:17 IN ADDITION, THE OTHER PROBLEMS WITH WHAT ARE BEING

11:14:20 PROPOSED, PARTICULARLY IN MY AREA AS A CITIZEN, MY

11:14:23 NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY ARE NOT INVOLVED IN REGARDS TO

11:14:26 THE FACT OF NOT BEING MADE AWARE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS AS

11:14:29 WELL AS THE MAGNITUDE THAT IT IS GOING TO HAVE NOT ONLY

11:14:32 FROM A TRANSPORTATION AND CONGESTION STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO




11:14:37 FROM THE STANDPOINT OF JUST DISRUPTING THE ENTIRE

11:14:41 COMMUNITY.

11:14:41 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STATE THAT WE ARE NOT AGAINST

11:14:45 DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK SHOULD BE IN COOPERATION WITH

11:14:48 THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL AS THE CURRENT RESIDENTS.

11:14:50 ANOTHER CONCERN IS LOSS OF GREENSPACE WITH PLANNED

11:14:54 DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ACTIVELY IN PREPARATION IN THE

11:14:57 HOOVER MARINER AREA, AND LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS

11:15:02 THAT THE INCREASED DENSITY IS ALSO GOING TO AFFECT ZONING

11:15:05 FROM A PUBLIC SCHOOL STANDPOINT.

11:15:08 I THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME FOR LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS.

11:15:13 813-774-0565.

11:15:17 I REALLY BELIEVE WE ARE AT A CRITICAL JUNCTURE IN HELPING

11:15:20 TAMPA GROW, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS GOING

11:15:23 TO BENEFIT EVERYONE, NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE ALREADY

11:15:27 PRESENT.

11:15:28 HAVE A GOOD DAY.

11:15:30 >> MY NAME IS SEBASTIAN BALLISTER.

11:15:33 I AM AN EAST TAMPA RESIDENT.

11:15:36 I LIVE 1906 EAST IDLEWILD AVENUE.

11:15:38 33610.

11:15:41 I'M WALLING IN REGARDS TO THE CITY'S PROPOSAL OF MOVING

11:15:44 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO EAST TAMPA FOR THE COOL

11:15:47 COST OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

11:15:49 I DON'T UNDERSTAND AFTER EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN




11:15:52 THIS PAST YEAR WHY YOU GUYS WOULD THINK THIS IS A GOOD

11:15:57 IDEA.

11:15:57 WE WANTED TO REFUND THE COMMUNITY AND YOU GUYS DECIDED

11:16:02 THAT PUTTING A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE POLICE

11:16:04 DEPARTMENT WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA THAN GIVING IT TO THE

11:16:07 COMMUNITY OR DOING ANYTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

11:16:10 THE IDEA IS THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE JOBS FOR THE CITY IN

11:16:14 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALL WE SEE IS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO

11:16:18 OVER-POLICE AN AREA THAT IS ALREADY OVER-POLICED AND

11:16:21 UNDERFUNDED.

11:16:22 SO WE ARE ENCOURAGING YOU TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL AND

11:16:26 KEEP THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE IT IS AND REPAIR

11:16:30 THE BUILDING FOR THE LOWER COST OF $35 MILLION AND MAYBE

11:16:34 GIVE THE REST OF THE HUNDRED MILLION TO THE COMMUNITY.

11:16:36 THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BETTER IDEA TO US.

11:16:38 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

11:16:40 THANK YOU.

11:16:45 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT

11:16:47 PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

11:16:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:16:49 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE -- WE'LL BEGIN THE AGENDA.

11:16:54 WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:00 AND WE'LL COME

11:16:57 BACK AT AROUND 1:15 OR SO.

11:16:59 JUST A HEADS UP TO EVERYBODY SO WE'RE PREPARED.

11:17:02 12:00.




11:17:02 WE GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, ITEMS 5-8, COUNCILMAN

11:17:06 CITRO, YOU ARE THE CHAIR, SIR.

11:17:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

11:17:11 MOVE ITEMS 5-8.

11:17:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:17:14 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:17:16 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:17:17 AYE.

11:17:18 ANY OPPOSED?

11:17:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:17:20 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE THE CHAIR FOR 9 AND 10.

11:17:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEMS 9 AND 10.

11:17:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:17:27 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:17:29 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:17:30 AYE.

11:17:30 ANY OPPOSED?

11:17:32 ALL RIGHT.

11:17:32 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, SIR, ITEMS 11-28.

11:17:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:17:41 IN REGARD TO ITEM 11, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT

11:17:45 TO OUR STAFF.

11:17:48 THAT'S A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS CONTRACT FOR

11:17:52 EXTENSIVE SURVEYING AND MAPPING AND OTHER ENGINEERING

11:17:55 SERVICES THAT'S BEING AWARDED TO A MINORITY VENDOR.




11:18:00 THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY IS WOMAN-OWNED, HISPANIC-OWNED

11:18:05 AND PARTIALLY OWNED BY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN.

11:18:10 SO I THINK THE STAFF IS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO RESPOND

11:18:12 TO OUR CONCERNS.

11:18:14 WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 28.

11:18:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --

11:18:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY TO DO THAT.

11:18:22 I'LL ASK FROM THIS POINT ON AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THE

11:18:25 OTHERS, FOR THE PURPOSES --

11:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT A ROLL CALL?

11:18:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.

11:18:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER,

11:18:31 SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

11:18:33 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:18:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:18:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:18:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:18:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:18:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:18:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:18:46 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

11:18:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE CAN, FOR THE

11:18:51 PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, JUST TO REAFFIRM 5-10 BY ROLL

11:18:55 CALL.

11:18:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, YOU HAVE YOUR




11:18:59 MOTION FOR ITEM 5-8.

11:19:01 I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS GUDES.

11:19:04 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:19:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:19:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:19:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:19:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:19:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:19:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:19:16 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:19:19 BEING ABSENT.

11:19:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:19:21 COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD 9 AND 10.

11:19:24 THE SECOND WAS MIRANDA.

11:19:26 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:19:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:19:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:19:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:19:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:19:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:19:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:19:39 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:19:41 BEING ABSENT.

11:19:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 11 THROUGH 28.

11:19:46 WE DID.




11:19:48 OKAY.

11:19:48 WE'RE GOOD.

11:19:49 NEXT UP IS ITEMS 29 AND 30, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:19:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 29 AND 30.

11:19:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

11:19:58 MIRANDA.

11:19:59 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:20:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:20:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:20:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:20:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:20:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:20:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:20:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:20:12 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:20:15 BEING ABSENT.

11:20:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA,

11:20:19 VICE-CHAIR OF BUILDING AND ZONING, ITEM 38 WAS REMOVED

11:20:22 PER THE REQUEST OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

11:20:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:20:27 I WANTED TO ALSO COMMENT, IF I MAY ON ITEM I BELIEVE IT

11:20:30 IS 27.

11:20:31 AND JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT WE'VE AUTHORIZED FUNDS FOR DESIGN

11:20:34 FOR THE NEW TAMPA COMMUNITY PARK INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND

11:20:38 DESIGN-BUILD.




11:20:39 WE HAD ORIGINALLY SUPPORTED DESIGN FUNDS IN 2017, BUT

11:20:44 THAT HAD TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE THE LOCATION OF THE PARK

11:20:46 WAS MOVED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN THANK THE

11:20:49 ADMINISTRATION FOR WORKING ON THIS AND JUST COUNCIL FOR

11:20:54 MOVING THIS FORWARD.

11:20:55 ALWAYS REMEMBER HOW THIS CAME UP.

11:20:56 I WAS IN THE OFFICE WITH THEN MAYOR BOB BUCKHORN TALKING

11:20:59 ABOUT THE 2017 BUDGET AND GOING OVER SOME PROJECTS.

11:21:02 HE GOES, ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THERE?

11:21:04 I GO, YEAH, WHY DON'T WE GET DESIGN MONEY FOR A

11:21:06 DISABILITY AND AUTISM FRIENDLY PARK IN NEW TAMPA.

11:21:09 HE WROTE IT DOWN.

11:21:10 NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN THE BUDGET.

11:21:12 THAT WAS EASY.

11:21:12 BUT KIND OF FUNNY.

11:21:14 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER --

11:21:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.

11:21:18 MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT AND GIVE A

11:21:21 LITTLE SHOUT-OUT ON ITEM 36.

11:21:25 THIS IS ANOTHER SIX FULLY ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

11:21:29 IN THIS CASE, I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO COMMUNITY AFFAIRS

11:21:32 AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.

11:21:35 A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, $35,000, BUT BY THE TIME YOU

11:21:40 BREAK THAT OUT FROM PRODUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AND ALL

11:21:43 THE MOVING PARTS INVOLVED IN A GAS ENGINE AND PLUS, OF




11:21:46 COURSE, GREENHOUSE GASES, THIS IS A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE

11:21:49 COMMUNITY.

11:21:50 I, AGAIN, APPLAUD THE ADMINISTRATION ON LISTENING TO

11:21:55 COUNCIL AND ATTEMPTING TO GO GREEN WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

11:22:00 SO ITEM 36, SIX NISSAN LEAF 60-KILOWATT VEHICLES.

11:22:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:22:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

11:22:09 I WAS GOING TO ECHO THE SAME THING COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER

11:22:12 SAID.

11:22:13 I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE SAID.

11:22:14 THIS IS NOT ONLY SIX, I THINK THERE WAS FOUR THAT WAS

11:22:17 BOUGHT PRIOR.

11:22:18 THAT GIVES US TEN.

11:22:19 WE'RE GETTING THERE SLOWLY BUT SURELY.

11:22:21 I HOPE WHEN 66 COMES UP THAT I'M HERE SO I CAN EXPRESS MY

11:22:26 FEELINGS OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN THE FUTURE FOR THIS.

11:22:28 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:22:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

11:22:32 VIERA.

11:22:33 WHO WAS THE SECOND?

11:22:33 THIS IS 31 THROUGH 44 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 38.

11:22:38 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:22:40 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:22:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:22:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.




11:22:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:22:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:22:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:22:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:22:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:22:52 BEING ABSENT.

11:22:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEMS NUMBER 45.

11:22:56 >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE SAID ITEM.

11:23:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY -- ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:23:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:23:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:23:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:23:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:23:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:23:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:23:12 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:23:15 BEING ABSENT.

11:23:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:23:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 46 AND 47, MR. CHAIRMAN,

11:23:21 FOR REVIEW OF SCHEDULED MAY 6, '21 AT 10:30 A.M.

11:23:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FOR BOTH 46 AND 47.

11:23:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH THE SECOND.

11:23:33 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:23:34 AYE.

11:23:34 ALL RIGHT.




11:23:36 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 9:30 A.M. PUBLIC

11:23:38 HEARINGS.

11:23:39 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:23:41 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:23:42 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:23:43 AYE.

11:23:44 OKAY.

11:23:44 ITEM NUMBER 48, COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU INITIATED THIS.

11:23:53 WE GO TO ITEM 48, LACHONE DOCK IS ON THE LINE.

11:24:03 LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR ANDREA?

11:24:04 MS. ZELMAN.

11:24:13 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD MORNING.

11:24:14 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

11:24:24 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

11:24:27 [MICROPHONE NOT ON]

11:25:07 [MICROPHONE NOT WORKING]

11:25:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

11:25:25 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YES, SIR.

11:25:26 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

11:25:27 I JUST WANTED TO VERY BRIEFLY GO OVER THIS, IF I MAY FOR

11:25:30 THREE MINUTES.

11:25:31 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:25:35 I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THANKS THAT ARE IN ORDER

11:25:39 FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

11:25:40 WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS NOW FOR ABOUT 14 MONTHS OR SO,




11:25:45 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER TO HAVE A LOT OF

11:25:48 DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS AND DIALOGUE AND MAKING THIS A

11:25:50 COLLABORATIVE ORDINANCE.

11:25:51 YOU KNOW, WHAT I THINK IS A VERY DIVERSE COALITION AND

11:25:56 PARTNERSHIP TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE.

11:25:59 OBVIOUSLY, OUR FRIENDS IN LABOR, SOME OF WHOM SPOKE HERE

11:26:02 TODAY, INCLUDES IRON WELDERS, PIPE FITTERS, ENGINEERS,

11:26:07 ELECTRICAL WORKERS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, COMING TOGETHER

11:26:10 TO SUPPORT THIS, A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE RELIGIOUS

11:26:13 COMMUNITY, REVEREND RUSSELL MEYER WITH FLORIDA COUNCIL OF

11:26:16 CHURCHES, AND THEN A LOT OF ACTIVIST GROUPS THAT ARE

11:26:21 REALLY, REALLY WANTING TO SEE SOME RESULTS THAT WE CAN

11:26:25 MEASURE.

11:26:25 I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN SUPPORT FROM GREAT FIGURES IN THE

11:26:29 COMMUNITY, LIKE DONNA DAVIS, WALTER SMITH, AMONG MANY,

11:26:32 MANY OTHER PEOPLE.

11:26:34 WE HERE IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEET WITH A LOT OF GROUPS,

11:26:37 AND I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT

11:26:39 REALLY MOVES US FORWARD WHENEVER IT COMES TO DIGNITY AND

11:26:43 JUSTICE.

11:26:44 WE WORKED A LOT WITH ABC ON THIS ORDINANCE.

11:26:46 I KNOW IT'S VERY CLEAR.

11:26:49 THEY OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.

11:26:50 I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT IN THE END WE COULDN'T GET

11:26:53 SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AGREE ON OR COULD ALL COME TOGETHER




11:26:57 ON ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AT LEAST WITH HESITATION.

11:27:00 I RESPECT THAT DISAGREEMENT 110%.

11:27:03 AND WHATNOT.

11:27:04 BUT I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY WAS BROUGHT

11:27:07 IN AS PART OF A DIALOGUE ON THIS, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE

11:27:10 COLLABORATIVE.

11:27:12 I HEARD A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS ON THE WAY SOME OF THESE

11:27:16 ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN PASSED IN OTHER PLACES, AND I

11:27:18 LISTENED AND I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE SOME EFFECTIVE

11:27:21 CHANGE, NOT JUST THROUGH THE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS BY

11:27:24 LISTENING TO PEOPLE BUT ALSO BY IMPLEMENTING CHANGES,

11:27:27 THINGS LIKE ANDREA TALKED ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT IF A

11:27:31 CONTRACTOR MEETS THAT 12% THRESHOLD, THEN GIVING THEM

11:27:36 SOME OF THEIR RETAINAGE BACK.

11:27:38 I THINK IT IS A FIFTH OF THE RETAINAGE WE HOLD SO THE

11:27:41 CITY HAS SKIN IN THE GAME, SO TO SPEAK, MAKING SURE WE

11:27:44 HAVE A VERY GOOD, GOOD-FAITH EXEMPTION SECTION AND

11:27:47 INCLUDED IN THAT, THE SIZE OF THE BUSINESS, SO THAT IF

11:27:50 YOU ARE A SMALL BUSINESS, YOU GET EXTRA DEFERENCE

11:27:52 WHENEVER IT COMES TO GOOD-FAITH ACCOMMODATIONS BECAUSE

11:27:55 OUR SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE GOT TO BE ACCOMMODATED, AND

11:27:58 THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT THIS DOES.

11:28:00 DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL

11:28:02 CONSTRUCTION SO THAT WE DON'T BITE OFF MORE THAN WE CAN

11:28:04 CHEW AND GETTING A TIMELINE IN THERE SO THAT THE CITY




11:28:08 DOES THIS RIGHT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

11:28:10 MANY OTHER POINTS OF DISTINCTION I THINK FROM HOW OTHER

11:28:13 AREAS HAVE DONE THIS, AND I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK THE

11:28:16 ADMINISTRATION, ANDREA ZELMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

11:28:21 HARD WORK AND YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.

11:28:22 WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS TOGETHER.

11:28:24 BRAD BAIRD WHO IS HERE.

11:28:25 THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND PROFESSIONALISM AS WELL.

11:28:29 AS WELL AS THE ADMINISTRATION AND MAYOR CASTOR, THIS IS

11:28:34 SOMETHING THAT BEFORE I AS A BISHOP, BEFORE I GO THROUGH

11:28:38 WITH IT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE POPE IS WILLING TO WORK

11:28:40 WITH US ON THIS SO TO SPEAK.

11:28:42 I THANK MAYOR CASTOR FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT OF

11:28:46 THIS ORDINANCE AND HER SUPPORT OF TRAINING AND

11:28:49 APPRENTICESHIPS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BECAUSE I

11:28:51 THINK THAT, AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THIS IS

11:28:53 SOMETHING THAT REALLY GOES TO AN IDEA THAT WE REALLY NEED

11:28:56 TO PROMOTE IN THE CITY.

11:28:58 WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA ATTRACTING THE

11:29:02 BEST AND BRIGHTEST.

11:29:03 I THINK TO MYSELF AGAIN AND AGAIN, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT

11:29:05 SOMEBODY FROM NOTRE DAME OR FROM EMERY OR FROM BROWN OR

11:29:09 WHEREVER IT MAY BE.

11:29:10 WHAT ABOUT THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO BE A WELDER, WHO WANTS

11:29:13 TO DO ELECTRICAL WORK, WHO WANTS TO DO PIPE FITTING, WHO




11:29:17 WANTS TO HAVE A PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS?

11:29:19 THEY ARE ALSO OUR BEST AND OUR BRIGHTEST.

11:29:21 THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES.

11:29:22 THIS IS A REALLY BIG IDEA.

11:29:24 WE TALK A LOT ABOUT BIG IDEAS AND SEEING WHAT LOCAL

11:29:27 GOVERNMENT CAN DO TO PROMOTE DIGNITY, JUSTICE AND

11:29:30 OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE AND A PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS.

11:29:32 THIS ORDINANCE REALLY, REALLY DOES THAT.

11:29:34 ALSO WANT TO SALUTE THE COUNTY AS WELL.

11:29:36 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, I KNOW THAT SOME COUNTY

11:29:38 COMMISSIONERS THERE HAVE TAKEN THIS UP, COUNTY

11:29:40 COMMISSIONER PAT KEMP, AS WELL AS COUNTY COMMISSIONER

11:29:43 GWEN MYERS.

11:29:45 I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION TO HAVE CITY OF TAMPA WORK WITH

11:29:49 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ON GWEN MYERS' ACE PROGRAM FOR

11:29:53 APPRENTICESHIPS AS WELL.

11:29:54 WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ALL HANDS ON DECK, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE

11:29:57 A LOOK AT ALL IDEAS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

11:29:59 THE OBVIOUS ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN

11:30:02 TALLAHASSEE, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN

11:30:05 TALLAHASSEE IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN TALLAHASSEE.

11:30:08 I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT I TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT

11:30:11 THIS ORDINANCE.

11:30:11 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN IT.

11:30:13 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I TALKED TO REPUBLICANS ABOUT THIS




11:30:15 ORDINANCE.

11:30:16 I TALKED TO DEMOCRATS ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE.

11:30:18 I TALKED TO INDEPENDENTS ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE.

11:30:20 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SUPPORT IT.

11:30:23 IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS PARTISAN OR ACUTE IN

11:30:27 THE IDEOLOGICAL SENSE.

11:30:29 THIS IS SOMETHING COLLABORATIVE AND SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE

11:30:31 CAN GET BEHIND.

11:30:32 THE SKILLED TRADES AND DEALING WITH OUR AGING WORKFORCE,

11:30:36 PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITY TO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HERE,

11:30:38 PROVIDING DIGNITY AND RESPECT TO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE

11:30:40 BEEN LEFT BEHIND AND YOUNG FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN LEFT

11:30:43 BEHIND FOR TOO LONG.

11:30:44 THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES.

11:30:45 AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS, OUR

11:30:48 DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS, INDEPENDENT FRIENDS CAN GET BEHIND

11:30:50 AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

11:30:52 AGAIN, THANK EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN SUCH A BIG PART OF

11:30:55 THIS AND TO OUR FRIENDS WHO MAYBE COULDN'T SUPPORT IT IN

11:30:57 THE END.

11:30:58 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COMMON GROUND ON CERTAIN ISSUES AND WE

11:31:01 HAVE A RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENT AND I RESPECT THAT

11:31:04 DISAGREEMENT 110%.

11:31:05 BUT IT WAS A PLEASURE TO GO THROUGH THE COLLABORATIVE

11:31:07 PROCESS WITH EVERYONE.




11:31:08 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:31:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:31:10 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:31:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH ON

11:31:14 IT, BUT YOU KNOW MY HEART WAS ALWAYS IN THE

11:31:16 APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

11:31:19 I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT IN EAST TAMPA.

11:31:21 WE HAVE TO, WHEN WE DO WORK WITH GOVERNMENT MONEY, WE

11:31:23 HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDER THE

11:31:26 TREES, WHO DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, SOMETIMES A

11:31:29 MISFORTUNE IN LIFE GET AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THESE DOLLARS.

11:31:33 I WENT TO A VOCATIONAL HIGH SCHOOL.

11:31:36 I STILL HAVE THAT CERTIFICATION.

11:31:39 AND I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FAILED US.

11:31:42 IT FAILED US.

11:31:43 WE PREACHED COLLEGE FOR SO LONG, COLLEGE ISN'T FOR

11:31:48 EVERYBODY.

11:31:49 YOU KNOW, MY FATHER HAD AN 8th GRADE EDUCATION.

11:31:52 LEARNED TO BE A TRUCK DRIVER.

11:31:54 DROVE EVERY DAY.

11:31:55 SO WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, YOU TALK ABOUT

11:31:59 REPUBLICANS WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM,

11:32:07 IT JUST BEHOOVES ME HOW YOU WANT TO STOP SOMETHING THAT'S

11:32:11 GOING TO BENEFIT AND HELP ALL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE

11:32:14 PEOPLE AT THE VERY BOTTOM, BECAUSE PEOPLE SOMETIMES MAY




11:32:17 NOT HAVE THE TOTAL MINDSET, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE

11:32:21 THAT ARE GOOD WITH THEIR HANDS.

11:32:22 WHEN THEY ARE WORKING, THEIR MIND CLICKS, BE THE BEST

11:32:25 MECHANIC YOU CAN EVER SEE.

11:32:30 BE THE BEST WELDER.

11:32:32 BUILDING A LOT OF BRIDGES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

11:32:34 IT TAKES WELDERS TO DO A LOT OF THAT WORK.

11:32:38 CONCRETE, PULLING THE MUD.

11:32:40 I DID THAT COMING HOME FROM COLLEGE ONE SUMMER.

11:32:43 THAT WASN'T FOR ME.

11:32:44 IT'S FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO GET OUT THERE AND SLING THAT

11:32:46 MUD.

11:32:47 KNOW HOW TO SLING IT.

11:32:48 I'M GLAD WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE.

11:32:51 MY PRAYER IS THAT THE CONSTITUENTS CALL TALLAHASSEE, MAKE

11:32:56 SURE THESE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE JOBS

11:32:58 FOR PEOPLE AT THE LOWER LEVELS TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE.

11:33:03 SEE, IF YOU CAN HAVE A COUPLE OF DOLLARS IN YOUR POCKET,

11:33:07 YOU CAN SURVIVE.

11:33:09 DON'T HAVE CRIME.

11:33:10 YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE LIVING PILLAR TO POST.

11:33:14 BUNCH OF HOMELESS PEOPLE, AND EVERYBODY -- A LOT OF TIMES

11:33:23 WHEN I WAS IN THE POLICE CAR AND DRIVE BY AND I SEE THE

11:33:25 PARKING LOTS WITH THE KIDS GOING TO McDONALD'S GIVE

11:33:28 THEM A BATH TO GO TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING.




11:33:30 GUYS GO IN THE SHOWER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE RENT

11:33:36 SOMETIMES OR THEY ARE OUT OF A JOB, DOWN ON THEIR LUCK.

11:33:38 SO I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING SOMETHING LIKE

11:33:42 THIS.

11:33:43 I SAY THE SAME THING -- WHEN WE START TO DEVELOP AND BUY

11:33:48 AND REHAB THOSE CRAs.

11:33:52 THIS IS WHERE THIS CAN COME INTO A MAJOR PLAY TO GET

11:33:56 THOSE FOLKS TO WORKING AND NOW, I TELL MY NEPHEW BECAME A

11:34:03 PAINTER, PAINTED MY MOTHER'S HOUSE AND NOW HE PAINTS

11:34:06 HOUSES EVERY WEEKEND NOW BECAUSE HE LEARNED THE SKILL.

11:34:08 AGAIN, MR. VIERA, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS

11:34:11 AND, OF COURSE, I WAS NOT HERE THAT WEEK, BUT, AGAIN, I

11:34:15 CALLED IN TO MR. SHELBY TO LET HIM KNOW I SUPPORT THIS

11:34:18 AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT TODAY.

11:34:19 THANK YOU, SIR.

11:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:34:21 COUNCILMAN CITRO, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:34:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

11:34:26 MY COLLEAGUES, COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN

11:34:28 DINGFELDER, WERE AT A SAFER STREETS WHERE WE HAD THE

11:34:34 ABILITY TO SIT DOWN AND SPEAK WITH THE YOUTH OF EAST

11:34:39 TAMPA.

11:34:41 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD MENTIONED WAS GIVE ME

11:34:48 A CAREER, GIVE ME A PATH TO A CAREER, NOT A JOB.

11:34:49 AND I DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND MY FRIENDS AT THE CASPERS




11:34:49 CORPORATION OR THE -- FAMILY, BUT McDONALD'S ISN'T A

11:34:54 JOB.

11:34:57 THESE KIDS WERE SAYING, I WANT A CAREER THAT WILL HELP ME

11:35:00 AFFORD A HOUSE.

11:35:02 HELP ME TO SEND MAYBE ONE OF MY CHILDREN TO COLLEGE IN

11:35:05 THE FUTURE.

11:35:06 COUNCILMAN VIERA, I AM GLAD THAT YOU HAVE BLAZED A PATH

11:35:12 FOR CHILDREN.

11:35:12 YOUNG ADULTS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE COURSE OF GETTING A

11:35:19 CAREER, A PROFESSION.

11:35:20 WHERE ONE DAY THEY CAN USE THE MONEY THEY HAVE COLLECTED

11:35:24 FROM THIS TO GO ON TO COLLEGE OR START THEIR OWN

11:35:29 BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN HAVE HELPING HANDS FOR OTHER

11:35:32 CHILDREN IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

11:35:34 I AM GLAD I COULD SUPPORT YOU.

11:35:36 CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:35:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:35:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:35:42 MR. VIERA, THANKS FOR SHEPHERDING THIS AND LEADING THIS

11:35:45 CHARGE.

11:35:46 AS I WAS DRIVING IN THIS MORNING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL

11:35:48 CAUGHT IT, IT WAS JUST BEFORE 9:00 ON WUSF RADIO, THEY

11:35:54 HAD A WHOLE TEN-MINUTE DISCUSSION ABOUT PREEMPTION IN

11:35:59 TALLAHASSEE.

11:35:59 I'LL PULL UP THE TRANSCRIPT AND ASK MR. SHELBY TO




11:36:03 CIRCULATE IT, IF APPROPRIATE.

11:36:05 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME IS, AND THIS WAS THE

11:36:08 CONCLUSION OF THE REPORTER AND A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO WERE

11:36:12 TALKING, IS THAT PREEMPTION THAT WE'RE SUFFERING FROM ON

11:36:16 THESE ISSUES IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.

11:36:17 WHEN THE NATION TALKS ABOUT WASHINGTON, D.C. AND DRAINING

11:36:23 THE SWAMP, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT SWAMP IS NOW IN

11:36:27 TALLAHASSEE, BECAUSE THAT MONEY GOES FLUSHING INTO

11:36:31 TALLAHASSEE WITH MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ALL

11:36:34 ACROSS THE STATE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEIR LEGISLATORS DO

11:36:36 WHEN THEY GO UP THERE, AND RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE DOING

11:36:40 WRONG.

11:36:41 THESE PREEMPTION BILLS ARE JUST DOWN RIGHT WRONG.

11:36:45 TALLAHASSEE COMPLAINS WHEN WASHINGTON TELLS STATE

11:36:48 GOVERNMENT WHAT TO DO, AND THEY TURN AROUND AND TELL

11:36:50 LOCAL GOVERNMENT HOW TO HANDLE OUR AFFAIRS.

11:36:53 I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO STAY IN THEIR OWN LANE AND THE

11:37:00 FOLKS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE TOLD US OVER AND OVER

11:37:02 THAT WE NEED, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES JUST SAID, WE NEED

11:37:05 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

11:37:09 WE NEED THAT TYPE OF TRAINING, APPRENTICE TRAINING AND

11:37:13 TRADE, PLUMBERS, CARPENTERS, THAT KIND OF THING.

11:37:18 AND THOSE ARE GOOD JOBS, YOU KNOW, 20, $25, $30 AN HOUR

11:37:23 JOBS.

11:37:23 SO COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID CREATE REAL CAREERS.




11:37:29 SO I WOULD JUST URGE OUR LEGISLATORS AND I WOULD URGE THE

11:37:33 PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING TO URGE OUR LEGISLATORS TO GO TO

11:37:39 TALLAHASSEE AND USE THEIR COMMON SENSE, AND THE COMMON

11:37:43 SENSE THAT THIS IS A GOOD BILL LOCALLY, AND THEY SHOULD

11:37:47 LEAVE IT ALONE.

11:37:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:37:51 AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, FOR ALL YOUR WORK

11:37:53 ON THIS AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

11:37:55 AND CITY COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU ARE THE SECOND ON THIS.

11:37:58 WE APPRECIATE YOU OPENING THE DISCUSSION AND BRINGING

11:38:00 THIS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC, YOU KNOW, OUT HERE IN

11:38:04 THE OPEN, BECAUSE WHEN WE RUN FOR OFFICE, WHAT ARE YOU

11:38:08 GOING TO DO ABOUT JOBS?

11:38:09 AND WE ARE NOT JOB CREATORS.

11:38:11 WE ARE A ZONING BOARD IN MANY WAYS.

11:38:13 WE LOOK AT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERSONALITIES AND WHATNOT.

11:38:15 YOU SEE HOW THE AGENDAS ARE.

11:38:17 BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE ARE NOT

11:38:20 CREATING JOBS.

11:38:21 WE ARE CREATING OPPORTUNITY.

11:38:22 WE ARE BUILDING THAT PATHWAY.

11:38:24 WE ARE PAVING THAT ROAD TO OPPORTUNITY TO WHAT IS

11:38:27 ESSENTIALLY THE AMERICAN DREAM.

11:38:28 AND I SAID IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, COLLEGE IS NOT FOR

11:38:31 EVERYBODY.




11:38:32 LOOK AT MY BROTHER-IN-LAW.

11:38:33 HE HAS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AND HE WENT INTO

11:38:36 CONSTRUCTION WORK.

11:38:36 HE MARRIED MY SISTER, AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THEY

11:38:39 WORKED VERY HARD, BOTH OF THEM, BECAUSE MY SISTER ALSO

11:38:43 JUST HAS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.

11:38:45 BUT THEY HAVE A GREAT LIFE.

11:38:46 OKAY.

11:38:47 THEY HAVE A GREAT LIFE WITH TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS,

11:38:49 LIVING A HAPPY LIFE WITH HOME OWNERSHIP AND HAVING A CAR

11:38:53 AND BEING ABLE TO EVERY SO OFTEN GO ON A LITTLE VACATION,

11:38:56 BUT THEY WORK HARD.

11:38:58 AND THE REASON I AM SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE COLLEGE IS NOT

11:39:01 FOR EVERYBODY.

11:39:01 BUT WHEN YOU EARN AND LEARN A SKILL SUCH AS A WELDER OR

11:39:06 LABORER, A PLUMBER, WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S A SKILL THAT NO

11:39:12 ONE CAN TAKE AWAY.

11:39:13 YOU CAN LIVE IN TAMPA, YOU CAN LIVE IN CALIFORNIA, YOU

11:39:16 CAN GO WHEREVER YOU WANT BUT THAT SKILL GOES WITH YOU

11:39:19 MEANING YOU ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WORK AS

11:39:21 LONG AS THAT WORK IS THERE.

11:39:22 SO WHEN WE TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE TALK TO OUR YOUTH,

11:39:25 AND I REMEMBER COUNCILMAN CITRO WHEN HE WAS CAMPAIGNING

11:39:28 IN 2019, ONE OF HIS TOPICS WAS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

11:39:31 BUT I BELIEVE HE TALKED ABOUT -- YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, AND I




11:39:35 THINK IT'S OUR DUTY, WHEN WE GO TO HIGH SCHOOLS AND WE

11:39:39 TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S THE MAYOR'S YOUTH

11:39:41 CORPS, WHETHER IT'S THE GREAT AMERICAN TEACH-IN, AND THEY

11:39:45 DON'T KNOW OR MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WHEN THEY

11:39:47 ARE OLDER BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL, BEYOND THEIR EDUCATION, WE

11:39:50 CAN SAY, LOOK, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES HERE, TALK TO THESE

11:39:54 FOLKS IN THE TRADE AND THE UNION AND THEY'LL TEACH YOU A

11:39:57 SKILL WHEN YOU ARE IN YOUR 20s OR EVEN BEFORE THAT

11:40:00 WHILE YOU ARE LEARNING YOU ARE BEING PAID AND YOU ARE

11:40:02 EARNING MONEY.

11:40:03 AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THAT IN 24, 25, 26, BUYING THEIR

11:40:07 FIRST HOUSE, BUYING A CAR, BEING ABLE TO SAVE MONEY, EARN

11:40:10 BENEFITS, HEALTH INSURANCE, LOOKING TOWARDS RETIREMENT

11:40:13 ONE DAY.

11:40:14 THEY WON'T HAVE TO BE WORKING -- THEY CAN RETIRE AT A

11:40:19 REASONABLE AGE AND GO WHEREVER THERE AND THAT'S ALL PART

11:40:21 OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.

11:40:22 AND US AS CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE NOT.

11:40:27 COUNCILMAN VIERA PROPOSED THIS.

11:40:30 COUNCILMAN CITRO SECONDED.

11:40:32 WE SUPPORT IT THIS BECAUSE I SEE A UNANIMOUS VOTE HERE

11:40:36 BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT OUR FUTURE, WE CARE ABOUT OUR

11:40:38 YOUTH, WE CARE ABOUT SHOWING FOLKS THAT THERE'S A PATH TO

11:40:41 THE AMERICAN DREAM AND THIS DOES THAT.

11:40:42 AND WHEN TALLAHASSEE TRIES TO STEP ON OUR TOES AND WE




11:40:47 TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN CITRO TALKED ABOUT,

11:40:49 HOME RULE AND PREEMPTION, SHAME ON THEM.

11:40:52 WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY

11:40:54 THAT WE REPRESENT, THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE ARE HERE ALL

11:40:56 THE TIME, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR DISTRICT AND

11:41:00 ALLOW US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE, WE ARE THERE, AND BY

11:41:04 DOING THIS WE ARE SHOWING THEM THAT WE DO CARE, AND WE

11:41:06 CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY.

11:41:08 SO I'LL STOP THERE.

11:41:11 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER

11:41:14 48?

11:41:19 >> CHAIR, WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS BUT THEY

11:41:22 SPOKE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:41:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THAT'S OUT OF THE WAY.

11:41:26 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:41:27 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:41:29 ALL THIS FAVOR?

11:41:29 ALL RIGHT.

11:41:30 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:41:32 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, THIS IS 14 OR 15 MONTHS OF HARD

11:41:37 WORK AND NEGOTIATION AND MEETING WITH PEOPLE, AND THIS

11:41:40 GOES TO THE IDEA OF AGAIN RESPECT FOR PEOPLE WHERE THEY

11:41:43 ARE, RESPECT FOR PEOPLE'S DREAMS, RESPECT FOR THE IDEA OF

11:41:46 THE DIGNITY OF WORK, AND HOW THAT DIGNITY OUGHT TO RESULT

11:41:50 IN SOME, YOU KNOW, JUST LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN




11:41:55 OUR SOCIETY.

11:41:56 AGAIN, AND I ALSO WANT TO STRESS ON THE PREEMPTION ISSUE

11:42:01 WHAT I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, WHAT'S IRONIC ABOUT IT IS THIS

11:42:04 ORDINANCE IS SO REASONABLE.

11:42:05 THIS ORDINANCE WAS DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

11:42:07 NOW, I WISH THAT WE COULD GO AND MEET WITH THE FOLKS WHO

11:42:10 ARE PUSHING THIS AND TELL THEM THE STORY HOW TAMPA DID

11:42:12 IT, WHICH IS THAT WE MET WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS, WE

11:42:16 INCORPORATED IDEAS INTO OUR ORDINANCE.

11:42:19 WE ARE NOT BITING OVER MORE THAN WE CAN CHEW.

11:42:21 WE ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.

11:42:22 TAMPA IS DOING IT SMART.

11:42:24 WE ARE PROMOTING JUSTICE, OPPORTUNITY, AND DIGNITY FOR

11:42:27 PEOPLE WHILE RESPECTING BUSINESS, RESPECTING ENTERPRISE,

11:42:31 RESPECTING GROWTH.

11:42:32 THAT'S THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT.

11:42:33 SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO READ THIS.

11:42:35 I READ AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING

11:42:37 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA

11:42:40 AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES 26.5 TO ADD

11:42:45 ARTICLE IV, APPRENTICESHIP REQUIREMENTS IN CITY

11:42:48 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS, SECTIONS 26.5-211 THROUGH

11:42:53 26.5-216, TO ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS PERTAINING TO THE USE

11:42:58 OF APPRENTICE LABOR IN CERTAIN CITY OF TAMPA CONSTRUCTION

11:43:04 PROJECTS TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC EXCEPTIONS THERETO, TO




11:43:07 PROVIDE CONDITIONS RELATING TO DOCUMENTATION, INCENTIVE

11:43:10 FOR COMPLIANCE, FEE FOR NONCOMPLIANCE, AND OTHER REMEDIES

11:43:14 IMPLEMENTATION, EXPANSION OF SCOPE AND REPORTING,

11:43:16 REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN

11:43:18 CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING

11:43:22 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:43:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

11:43:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

11:43:26 CITRO BUT ALSO COUNCILMAN VIERA, SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.

11:43:30 BUT EVERYTHING --

11:43:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA.

11:43:35 THE TITLE IS THE SAME.

11:43:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:43:41 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:43:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:43:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:43:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:43:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:43:51 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.

11:43:52 JUST KIDDING, YES.

11:43:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:43:58 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:44:00 CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

11:44:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS.

11:44:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.




11:44:07 ITEM NUMBER 49.

11:44:15 >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

11:44:18 COUNCIL, ITEM 49 IS BEFORE YOU, PROPERLY INITIATED TEXT

11:44:23 AMENDMENT, AND THIS REQUEST WAS TO AMEND CODE SECTION

11:44:27 27-228 WHICH IS THE PDA SECTION OF THE CODE, THE PLANNED

11:44:32 DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE REQUIREMENT, AND JUST AS A

11:44:34 REMINDER, COUNCIL, ON THE SCHEDULING FOR THIS ITEM, THIS

11:44:38 ITEM WAS BEFORE YOU FOR FIRST READING ON FEBRUARY 4, AND

11:44:42 AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 18th, AND THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU

11:44:46 THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

11:44:48 I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

11:44:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

11:44:52 TIME?

11:44:57 HEARING NONE, THAT'S IT.

11:44:59 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

11:45:01 ITEM 49?

11:45:03 >> NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

11:45:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:45:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY

11:45:12 DOWNSTAIRS?

11:45:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR

11:45:15 TO SPEAK ON ITEM 49?

11:45:16 >> MY APOLOGIES.

11:45:17 I DO HAVE A PERSON ON THE LINE.

11:45:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MR. HUDSON.




11:45:23 MR. HUDSON, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE TURN YOUR

11:45:26 CAMERA ON.

11:45:28 I HEARD YOU MIGHT BE VERY CASUAL BECAUSE YOU ARE ON

11:45:31 VACATION WITH YOUR FAMILY.

11:45:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY THEN HE

11:45:36 DOESN'T HAVE TO TURN HIS CAMERA ON.

11:45:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HUDSON, IS THAT YOU?

11:45:41 >> THIS IS ME.

11:45:45 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

11:45:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

11:45:47 THERE WE GO.

11:45:47 >> SORRY.

11:45:51 I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT SPEAK ON THE SAME MOTION, HAPPY TO

11:45:58 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.

11:46:00 THANK YOU.

11:46:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:46:02 ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

11:46:03 NO?

11:46:03 AND WE HAVE NOBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK.

11:46:06 WE CHECKED.

11:46:06 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

11:46:08 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:46:10 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:46:12 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:46:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.




11:46:15 FILE 2020-E-CHAPTER 27, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

11:46:20 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF

11:46:23 TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,

11:46:25 ALTERNATIVE DISTRICT, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA

11:46:28 CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND

11:46:31 DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-228, PD (A) PLANNED

11:46:40 DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR

11:46:43 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR

11:46:46 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:46:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

11:46:51 CITRO.

11:46:51 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:46:53 ROLL CALL.

11:46:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:46:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:47:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:47:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:47:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:47:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:47:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:47:10 BEING ABSENT.

11:47:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 50.

11:47:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. HUDSON.

11:47:15 ITEM NUMBER 50.

11:47:16 >> MARCY HAMILTON, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER ANY




11:47:24 QUESTIONS REGARDING CODE AMENDMENT TO 2-279 IN REGARD TO

11:47:29 NOTICE TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF EMERGENCY PURCHASES.

11:47:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

11:47:39 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER

11:47:42 50?

11:47:42 >> NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.

11:47:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:47:45 WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

11:47:49 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:47:51 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:47:53 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:47:55 ANY OPPOSED?

11:47:56 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 50?

11:48:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:48:01 FILE E-2021-8-CHAPTER 2, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF

11:48:06 TAMPA, FLORIDA AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE ORDINANCES

11:48:08 CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION 3, SECTION 2-279 APPROVAL

11:48:12 OF VALID EMERGENCIES, COMPETITIVE BIDDING AND BOND

11:48:17 EXEMPTIONS, SAID AMENDMENT BEING NECESSARY TO PROVIDE TO

11:48:21 CITY COUNCIL NOTIFICATION AFTER A VALID EMERGENCY

11:48:23 PURCHASE OR CONTRACT IS MADE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR

11:48:26 PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR

11:48:29 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:48:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

11:48:32 CITRO.




11:48:33 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:48:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:48:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:48:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:48:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:48:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:48:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:48:43 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:48:45 BEING ABSENT.

11:48:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST AN FYI FOR ITEMS 51 THROUGH 56.

11:48:50 THESE ARE SECOND READINGS DESIGNATING CERTAIN PARKS AS

11:48:54 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL ASK

11:48:57 FOR ONE PRESENTATION.

11:48:59 IF ANYTHING, JENNIFER MALONE ON THE LINE, AND THEN JUST

11:49:05 ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY FOR THE PUBLIC ON ANY OF THESE

11:49:08 ITEMS AND READ THEM ONE AFTER ANOTHER TO SAVE TIME.

11:49:12 JENNIFER MALONE.

11:49:13 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.

11:49:15 ITEM 51 IS FOR CAL DICKSON TENNIS COMPLEX FROM

11:49:21 RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE WOULD. YOU

11:49:25 LIKE ME TO GO DO THAT ON THE FIRST NEXT?

11:49:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM.

11:49:30 >>JENNIFER MALONE: IT IS DESIGNATING 20-26, SUNSET

11:49:36 PARK -- I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

11:49:39 FREMONT LINEAR PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 35 TO OPEN SPACE.




11:49:46 53 IS TA/CPA 20-27 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.

11:49:59 54 IS TA/CPA 20-28.

11:50:03 ITEM 55 IS TA/CPA 20-29 DESIGNATING THE LYKES PARK FROM

11:50:10 CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.

11:50:13 ITEM NUMBER 56 IS TA/CPA 20-31, DESIGNATING TO

11:50:22 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.

11:50:24 AGAIN THIS IS FOR SECOND READING.

11:50:26 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

11:50:27 THANK YOU.

11:50:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

11:50:30 TIME?

11:50:30 HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK

11:50:33 HERE IN PERSON?

11:50:34 BECAUSE I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED BUT IS

11:50:37 THERE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 51

11:50:40 THROUGH 56?

11:50:46 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:50:48 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:50:50 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:50:53 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 51?

11:50:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY.

11:51:14 TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

11:51:15 I WANT TO POINT OUT MR. CHAIRMAN AS YOU DID EARLIER, AND

11:51:18 I THINK SOMEBODY SAID THERE'S A SHOUTOUT TO MR. SUAREZ ON

11:51:22 THESE --




11:51:24 >>> HE'S THE GENTLEMAN THAT BROUGHT THIS UP ORIGINALLY.

11:51:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT ITEMS, NOT

11:51:29 CONTROVERSIAL BUT VERY IMPORTANT, THAT ENSURED WITHIN OUR

11:51:36 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SPECIFICALLY OUR PLAN MAP THAT ALL OF

11:51:39 OUR PARKS ARE WELL PROTECTED FOREVER.

11:51:42 AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS.

11:51:46 MS. MALONE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR ASSISTANCE AND YOUR STAFF

11:51:50 ON WORKING THROUGH THESE.

11:51:52 WITH THAT, IN REGARD TO ITEM 51, FILE TA/CPA 20-25, AN

11:52:00 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

11:52:03 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR

11:52:07 THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4011 WEST WATROUS AVENUE

11:52:11 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CLIFTON CAL DICKSON TENNIS COMPLEXION

11:52:15 FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE,

11:52:19 R/OS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT

11:52:22 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:52:25 AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I LEARNED HOW TO PLAY TENNIS ON

11:52:28 THOSE COURTS.

11:52:28 NOT WELL, BUT I LEARNED.

11:52:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL?

11:52:32 [ LAUGHTER ]

11:52:33 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

11:52:35 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:52:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:52:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.




11:52:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:52:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:52:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:52:44 >>BILL CARLSON: NO RESPONSE.

11:52:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:52:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:52:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:52:54 BEING ABSENT.

11:52:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 52.

11:53:02 FACPA 20-26 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE

11:53:07 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

11:53:11 FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE

11:53:13 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1744 AND 1902 WEST WALNUT STREET AND

11:53:18 1748 AND 1902 WEST CHERRY STREET, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS

11:53:22 FREMONT LINEAR PARK, FROM RESIDENTIAL 35 R-35 TO

11:53:27 RESIDENTIAL OPEN SPACE R/OS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

11:53:31 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,

11:53:34 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:53:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN SILT ROW.

11:53:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:53:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:53:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:53:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:53:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:53:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.




11:53:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:53:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:53:51 BEING ABSENT.

11:53:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:53:54 ITEM NUMBER 53.

11:53:55 COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS?

11:53:58 >>CHAIRMAN: YES, SIR, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING

11:54:00 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE

11:54:03 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

11:54:06 FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE

11:54:09 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5800 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE OTHERWISE

11:54:13 KNOWN AS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS GARDEN CENTER FROM RESIDENTIAL

11:54:15 10 R-10 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, R/OS PROVIDING FOR

11:54:22 REPEALING OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR

11:54:25 SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:54:26 AND KUDOS TO OUR FAVORITE WHITE HAIRED FORMER CITY

11:54:30 COUNCILMAN.

11:54:31 THANK YOU.

11:54:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF HE WOULD HERE HE WOULD SAY, WATCH

11:54:35 IT, VIERA, YOU WILL BE THERE TOO, ONE DAY, OAR SOMETHING

11:54:38 LIKE THAT.

11:54:39 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:54:41 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.

11:54:43 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:54:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.




11:54:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:54:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:54:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:54:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:54:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:54:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:54:56 BEING ABSENT.

11:54:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, ITEM NUMBER 54.

11:55:00 >> COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU ARE ON TOP OF YOUR PUNMANSHIP.

11:55:06 I MOVE TA/CPA 20-28 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

11:55:11 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE

11:55:14 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE

11:55:19 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT

11:55:23 1611 NORTH HUBERT AVENUE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS LORETTA

11:55:28 INGRAHAM PARK, FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO R-10 TO

11:55:34 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, R/OS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

11:55:38 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,

11:55:41 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:55:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN

11:55:44 CITRO.

11:55:45 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:55:47 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:55:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:55:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:55:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.




11:55:56 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:55:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:55:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:55:58 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:56:01 BEING ABSENT.

11:56:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS IS IN YOUR

11:56:05 DISTRICT.

11:56:06 ITEM 55.

11:56:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TA/CPA 20-29, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR

11:56:12 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE

11:56:14 IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE

11:56:17 ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT

11:56:20 400 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET OTHER WAYS KNOWN AS LYKES SCARE

11:56:25 PARK FROM CENTRAL BUSINESS CBD TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE

11:56:30 TO PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT

11:56:33 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:56:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:56:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:56:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:56:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:56:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:56:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:56:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:56:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:56:46 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON




11:56:49 BEING ABSENT.

11:56:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND

11:56:53 READING 56?

11:56:53 >> TA/CPA 20-31 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN

11:57:02 ORDINANCE AMENDING IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

11:57:05 FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR PROPERTY

11:57:09 LOCATED AT 4525 WEST PEARL AVENUE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS

11:57:12 PALMA CEIA LIONS PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10 TO

11:57:16 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE R/OS TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE

11:57:24 R/OS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,

11:57:28 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:57:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

11:57:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:57:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:57:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:57:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:57:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:57:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:57:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:57:44 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

11:57:47 BEING ABSENT.

11:57:49 >>> CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN 57 AND 58?

11:57:52 THESE ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.

11:57:54 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND BY

11:57:56 COUNCILMAN GUDES.




11:57:57 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:57:58 FOR ITEM 57 WE HAVE JOSEPH DIAZ REGISTERED.

11:58:01 I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S ON THE LINE.

11:58:03 IF HE IS, MR. DIAZ, PLEASE TURN OWN YOUR CAMERA, RAISE

11:58:06 YOUR RIGHT HAND, WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

11:58:08 SAME TO YOU, MR. MANASSE.

11:58:11 IS MR. DIAZ REGISTERED?

11:58:13 >>THE CLERK: HE'S NOT LOGGED IN.

11:58:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT THEN.

11:58:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: I HAVE BEEN SWORN.

11:58:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MANASSE, GO AHEAD.

11:58:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM 57, FILE AB 2-21-06, ORDINANCE FOR

11:58:32 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE

11:58:35 SALES, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, PACKAGE SALES

11:58:38 OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION HE AT 8684 HUNTERS VILLAGE ROAD

11:58:44 UNIT 210.

11:58:45 CERTIFIED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK

11:58:47 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

11:58:48 >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME?

11:58:50 NO?

11:58:51 ALL RIGHT.

11:58:51 THE APPLICANT IS NOT LOGGED IN SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

11:58:56 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

11:58:58 ITEM NUMBER 57 ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN PERSON?

11:59:02 NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ONE.




11:59:06 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:59:08 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:59:09 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:59:12 COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 57?

11:59:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO FILE AB 2-21-06, AN

11:59:22 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

11:59:24 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2

11:59:28 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, PACKAGE SALES,

11:59:32 OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE

11:59:35 OF BEVERAGES, REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE

11:59:38 AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF

11:59:41 LAND LOCATED AT 8684 HUNTERS VILLAGE ROAD, UNIT 210,

11:59:46 TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION

11:59:49 2, THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT

11:59:51 ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:59:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:59:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:59:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:00:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

12:00:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:00:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:00:07 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:00:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:00:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

12:00:12 BEING ABSENT.




12:00:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 58.

12:00:15 >>RYAN MANASSE: DO YOU WANT TO SWEAR HIM?

12:00:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SINGER, IF YOU ARE THERE, I

12:00:29 SEE YOU.

12:00:30 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY

12:00:35 YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND

12:00:35 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

12:00:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. MANASSE.

12:00:39 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM 58, FILE AB 2-21-08, BEFORE YOU FOR

12:00:45 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, SMALL VENUE FOR CONSUMPTION

12:00:49 ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION

12:00:53 AND THAT'S THE CLASSIFICATION OF BEER, WINE, LIQUOR FOR

12:00:56 PROPERTY AT 1640 WEST SNOW AVENUE AND CERTIFIED SITE

12:00:59 PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY.

12:01:00 >>THE CLERK:

12:01:02 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

12:01:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MANASSE?

12:01:05 HEARING NONE, MR. SINGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?

12:01:08 >> I JUST WANT TO SAY VERY PRODUCTIVE MORNING.

12:01:14 I HAVE ENJOYED WATCHING.

12:01:15 CONGRATULATIONS, GOOD JOB.

12:01:16 IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, HAPPY TO ANSWER

12:01:18 THEM.

12:01:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

12:01:20 IF NOT WE WILL ASK IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.




12:01:23 WE HAVE NOBODY REGISTERED FOR ITEM 58.

12:01:25 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN PERSON ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR ITEM

12:01:27 NUMBER 58?

12:01:30 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

12:01:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

12:01:33 ALL IN FAVOR?

12:01:36 WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 58, MR. VIERA?

12:01:39 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE A ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR

12:01:40 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A S-2

12:01:45 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON

12:01:47 PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND

12:01:51 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF

12:01:53 ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN

12:01:56 LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1640 WEST SNOW

12:02:01 AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

12:02:04 SECTION 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

12:02:06 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING AN

12:02:08 EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:02:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

12:02:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

12:02:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:02:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

12:02:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

12:02:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

12:02:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON




12:02:21 BEING ABSENT.

12:02:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE IN RECESS NOW UNTIL 1:30.

12:02:26 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS).

01:31:15

01:33:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S TAKE A FEW MINUTES PAUSE THERE

01:33:55 ON THAT.

01:33:55 IS THERE ANYTHING NONCONTROVERSIAL?

01:33:59 LET'S SEE.

01:34:04 A LOT OF THE MONEY.

01:34:06 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

01:34:07 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: CITY CLERK.

01:34:10 I'M WANTING TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS REGARDING PUBLIC

01:34:14 COMMENTS.

01:34:15 AND JUST WANTED TO NOTE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, DUE TO

01:34:19 COVID-19, THE CITY OF TAMPA PUT IN PLACE SEVERAL WAYS

01:34:24 THAT THE PUBLIC COULD PARTICIPATE WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS,

01:34:28 WHICH INCLUDED REGISTERING TO SPEAK REMOTELY,

01:34:33 PARTICIPATING BY LEAVING A VOICE MAIL,

01:34:36 AND PROVIDING WRITTEN COMMENTS.

01:34:40 IN ADDITION, COUNCIL HAS OVERRIDDEN THEIR RECALLS TO

01:34:45 ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK WITH NO MAXIMUM TIME LIMIT.

01:34:50 PRIOR TO THESE ACCOMMODATIONS, THERE WAS A RULE PUT IN

01:34:54 PLACE WHERE A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES WAS ALLOTTED DURING

01:35:00 PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ANY MATTER OTHER THAN PUBLIC

01:35:03 HEARINGS.




01:35:09 NOW THAT COUNCIL IS MEETING IN PERSON IN CHAMBERS, THE

01:35:14 PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO MARJORIE PARK IN CITY HALL OPEN

01:35:19 SECOND FLOOR OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO

01:35:21 VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE BY REGISTERING TO SPEAK REMOTELY

01:35:26 DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS

01:35:30 MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, ALSO KNOWN AS CMT.

01:35:35 WE SUGGEST ELIMINATING THE VOICE MAIL OPTION DUE TO TAMPA

01:35:41 CITY COUNCIL BEING CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM

01:35:47 OF THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

01:35:51 THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS OF

01:35:56 PARTICIPATING REMOTELY BY REGISTERING TO SPEAK VIA CMT,

01:36:01 OR THE IN-PERSON OPTION WHERE PUBLIC COMMENTS CAN BE MADE

01:36:06 IN PERSON ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL DURING A

01:36:11 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

01:36:13 THANK YOU.

01:36:13 I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY HOW MUCH I

01:36:18 APPRECIATE MY STAFF.

01:36:20 THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB EACH AND EVERY DAY FOR THE CITY

01:36:25 OF TAMPA.

01:36:26 THANKS AGAIN.

01:36:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:36:28 AND BECAUSE WE HAD A COMMUNICATIONS GLITCH, WE HAVE TO DO

01:36:31 ROLL CALL AGAIN.

01:36:32 IT WAS NOT BROADCAST.

01:36:33 JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAN.




01:36:35 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

01:36:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

01:36:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

01:36:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

01:36:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

01:36:44 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

01:36:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

01:36:48 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

01:36:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. KNOWLES, YOUR OFFICE AND STAFF HAVE

01:36:56 BEEN TREMENDOUS DURING THE COVID-19 CRISIS.

01:36:59 I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF EXTRA THINGS.

01:37:01 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

01:37:03 AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU GUYS ARE LIKE FAMILY WITH THE

01:37:06 COUNCIL BECAUSE WE WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU ALL THE TIME.

01:37:09 WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

01:37:11 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

01:37:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. SHIRLEY, AGAIN TO YOU AND YOUR

01:37:16 STAFF -- [NO ENCODER] [NO ENCODER]

01:37:35 -- TO BE ABLE TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS, SO WITHOUT YOU AND

01:37:46 YOUR TEAM, THIS COULD NOT HAVE MADE HISTORY, AND I THANK

01:37:49 YOU VERY MUCH.

01:37:49 YOU AND YOUR TEAM ALTOGETHER.

01:37:52 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.

01:37:53 IT'S OUR PRIVILEGE TO SERVE YOU AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.

01:37:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




01:37:56 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:37:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, AND I WANTED TO JOIN IN AND THANK YOU

01:38:02 GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

01:38:03 YOU ARE A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT AND EVERYONE IN YOUR OFFICE

01:38:06 IS JUST REMARKABLE.

01:38:07 MY FIRST CONTACT WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS WHEN I SERVED

01:38:10 ON THE CIVIL SERVICE REVIEW BOARD, AND GOT TO KNOW JIM

01:38:13 CREW WHO I THINK IS SUCH A NICE GENTLEMAN AND A GENTLE

01:38:17 SOUL, AND JUST A GREAT GUY, AND ALL OF YOU ALL ARE

01:38:20 WONDERFUL PEOPLE.

01:38:20 SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

01:38:22 AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE UP TO US,

01:38:24 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, THE BUCK

01:38:30 STOPS WITH US BUT IN THIS INSTANCE IF WE DON'T MAKE A

01:38:33 WISE DECISION THE BUCK STOPS WITH US BUT YOU BEAR THE

01:38:36 BURDEN OF OUR, I BELIEVE, BAD DECISION IFS WE DON'T MOVE

01:38:39 AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

01:38:40 SO THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING OUT.

01:38:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

01:38:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHIRLEY YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU

01:38:49 AND YOUR STAFF, AND SOME OF THE HARDEST WORK IN CITY

01:38:54 GOVERNMENT.

01:38:59 HAND IN HAND WITH THIS ISSUE, I WANTED TO BRING UP A

01:39:02 RELATED ISSUE.

01:39:03 AND I AM NOT SAYING HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS ONE IN




01:39:06 PARTICULAR.

01:39:07 BUT AS YOU RECALL, I FELT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD SET-UP

01:39:12 OVER AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

01:39:14 AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, NOT JUST AS RELATED TO US, BUT AS

01:39:18 RELATED TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE WE HAD A NICE BIG ROOM,

01:39:22 NICE HIGH CEILINGS, AND THE PUBLIC WORE MASKS AND STAYED

01:39:29 PHYSICALLY SEPARATED, WE WERE ABLE TO CONDUCT SOME REALLY

01:39:32 GREAT BUSINESS FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, FOUR OR FIVE

01:39:35 MONTHS DURING COVID.

01:39:38 THEN OF COURSE SUPER BOWL CAME AND WE GOT EVICTED.

01:39:41 I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I ACCEPTED THAT.

01:39:43 BUT AS THAT HAPPENED, I MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, I SAID,

01:39:47 YOU KNOW WHAT?

01:39:48 I SAID WE HAVE LEFT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR A SPECIFIC

01:39:52 REASON, SUPER BOWL, BUT I SAID IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD

01:39:56 FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK THERE AS LONG AS COVID IS AN

01:39:59 ISSUE.

01:40:01 AND ONE OF THE REASONS I SAY THAT, AND IT'S NOT THAT THIS

01:40:04 CHAMBER IS THAT BAD, THIS CHAMBER IS DECENT FOR US AND I

01:40:10 THINK IT'S FAIRLY HEALTHY FOR US, BUT OUR RELATIONSHIP

01:40:15 WITH THE PUBLIC IS HORRIBLE UNDER THESE CONDITIONS, IN MY

01:40:18 OPINION.

01:40:19 I MEAN, I WENT DOWNSTAIRS.

01:40:21 YOU GUYS, JOE, YOU WENT DOWN THERE FOR YOUR THING.

01:40:24 LUIS, YOU WENT DOWN THERE.




01:40:26 THERE ARE 30 PEOPLE JUST SITTING THERE AND WATCHING THE

01:40:29 BIG SCREEN TV, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY COME UP ONE AT A

01:40:33 TIME TO THE PODIUM DOWN THERE, AND IT'S VERY LIMITED.

01:40:37 IT'S NOT THE KIND OF DISCOURSE THAT WE ARE USED TO.

01:40:41 YOU KNOW, WE ARE USED TO HAVING SOMEBODY STAND IN FRONT

01:40:43 OF THIS PODIUM 20 FEET AWAY FROM US AND TELL US AND FEEL

01:40:46 THE PASSION AND EYE CONTACT AND ALL OF THAT.

01:40:51 AND THAT'S GONE.

01:40:54 AND I WOULD ARGUE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE SHOULD RETURN TO THE

01:41:00 CONVENTION CENTER, AND WE SHOULD BASICALLY JUST TELL THE

01:41:05 ADMINISTRATION THAT THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO GO BACK

01:41:08 OVER THERE, SO WE CAN HAVE-GO BACK TO HAVING THAT GREAT

01:41:14 DISCOURSE WITH THE PUBLIC, WITH THE PUBLIC STANDING THERE

01:41:19 20, 30 FEET AWAY FROM US, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES

01:41:22 COUNCIL DIFFERENT IS OUR INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY,

01:41:27 AND THEIR ABILITY TO STAND UP HERE.

01:41:29 SOMETIMES WE MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

01:41:31 SOMETIMES THEY ARE YELLING AT US.

01:41:33 BUT THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

01:41:38 AND SHIRLEY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO RAIN ON YOUR PARADE AND

01:41:43 YOUR ISSUE.

01:41:44 WE'LL GET DO THAT ONE AS WELL.

01:41:45 BUT I THINK THIS IS A RELATED ISSUE THAT I HOPE COUNCIL

01:41:48 ADDRESSES WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH MS. FOXX-KNOWLES ISSUE.

01:41:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO CTTV AND




01:41:59 THE IT DEPARTMENT.

01:42:00 THEY ARE HERE WITH US.

01:42:01 AS LONG AS WE ARE THERE, AND MAKING SURE OPERATES,

01:42:04 BECAUSE IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SET-UP TO DO THE SECOND

01:42:08 FLOOR CONNECTED TO THE THIRD FLOOR, THE KIOSK, FROM HERE

01:42:12 TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, I COULDN'T DO IT AND I AM

01:42:15 PRETTY DECENT WITH ELECTRONICS AND STUFF.

01:42:18 THIS IS HIGHLY COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE HAVE SUNSHINE LAWS,

01:42:22 BROADCASTING, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE SOCIAL

01:42:24 DISTANCING.

01:42:26 WE ARE WITHIN THESE PLEXIGLAS PANELS AND SETTING THIS UP

01:42:30 COSTS MONEY AND COSTS CREATIVITY, COMING UP WITH IDEAS TO

01:42:33 TRY TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.

01:42:34 SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.

01:42:35 THE CLERK'S OFFICE, IT FOLKS, CTTV, WE HAVE ALL HAD TO

01:42:40 WORK THROUGH THIS TOGETHER, WITH THIS UNPRECEDENTED

01:42:42 PANDEMIC.

01:42:43 THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THESE TIMES.

01:42:47 COUNCIL, HAVING HEARD WHAT THE CLERK HAS SAID REGARDING

01:42:49 THE VOICE MAIL OPTION, CONSIDERING THAT WE ARE MEETING

01:42:52 BACK IN PERSON, CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE TAKEN NECESSARY

01:42:55 STEPS, CONSIDERING THAT THE VACCINES ARE ROLLING OUT AND

01:42:59 PEOPLE ARE GETTING VACCINATED, AND WE ARE RETURNING TO

01:43:02 SOME KIND OF NORMALCY, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A

01:43:04 MOTION THAT WE REMOVE THE VOICE MAIL OPTION AND LEAVE




01:43:07 EVERYTHING ELSE?

01:43:08 BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY OPTIONS FOR PUBLIC

01:43:11 COMMENT STILL AVAILABLE.

01:43:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION IF WE

01:43:15 WILL ELIMINATE THE VOICE MAIL CALL-INS.

01:43:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT?

01:43:20 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:43:22 MR. SHELBY?

01:43:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU

01:43:25 RECALL, AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, I HAD PREPARED A

01:43:28 RESOLUTION DOING WHAT YOU REQUESTED AT THE TIME, AND

01:43:36 WHICH WAS NOT ADOPTED, AND WHAT I HAVE DONE IS I HAVE

01:43:39 UPDATED THAT RESOLUTION, AND I PROVIDED IT TO THE CLERK.

01:43:42 SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION AS MOVING THE

01:43:44 RESOLUTION, IT'S PREPARED FOR YOU IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S

01:43:47 PLEASURE.

01:43:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

01:43:49 SO WE HAVE THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

01:43:51 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:43:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

01:43:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

01:43:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST SO IT'S ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, THE

01:43:59 CALL-IN OPTION IS STILL AN OPTION.

01:44:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSOLUTELY.

01:44:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COME TO THE SECOND FLOOR IS STILL AN




01:44:06 OPTION.

01:44:09 BUT FOLKS HAVE TO DO IT LIVE.

01:44:10 SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO CALL IN LIVE OR COME DOWN HERE,

01:44:14 OBVIOUSLY, LIVE WHILE THE MEETING IS GOING ON.

01:44:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

01:44:18 AND WE NEVER HAD THE VOICE MAIL.

01:44:21 IT'S NEVER EXISTED AND IT'S ONLY EXISTED BECAUSE OF THE

01:44:23 PANDEMIC BECAUSE WE WERE MEETING STRICTLY VIRTUALLY FOR A

01:44:26 TIME PERIOD BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY ORDER BY THE

01:44:28 GOVERNOR.

01:44:29 WE HAD COUNTY ORDERS, EMERGENCY ORDERS, WE HAD EVEN AT

01:44:32 THE CITY LEVEL.

01:44:33 BUT WE WENT BACK IN PERSON IN JUNE AND WE SLOWLY

01:44:38 TRANSITIONED OUT OF CONVENTION CENTER, COME HERE, BUT

01:44:41 PEOPLE CAN CALL IN, REGISTER, SPEAK LIVE, SEND E-MAILS,

01:44:44 COME IN PERSON.

01:44:47 THERE'S A PLETHORA OF OPTIONS OUT THERE.

01:44:49 AND WE ARE NOT LIMITING, WE ARE NOT LIMITING ANYBODY'S

01:44:55 VOICE.

01:44:56 WE ARE BEING ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE SO THAT EVERYBODY

01:44:58 CAN BE HEARD ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S THE NORMAL M.O. FOR

01:45:04 CITY COUNCIL FOR THE LAST CENTURY PLUS, YOU KNOW.

01:45:07 FIRST THEY WOULD COME HERE.

01:45:08 NOW WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO GO VIRTUAL AND EVERYTHING

01:45:10 ELSE.




01:45:10 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

01:45:13 POINT OF ORDER.

01:45:14 WHAT DOES PLETHORA MEAN?

01:45:16 I'M JOKING.

01:45:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAD TO USE THE WORD SOMETIME.

01:45:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:45:24 I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I MADE THIS MOTION, BUT THE

01:45:31 CITIZENS OF TAMPA, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL MY OFFICE, YOU CAN

01:45:35 CALL COUNCILMAN GUDES.

01:45:37 CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN

01:45:41 DINGFELDER'S OFFICE.

01:45:41 THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

01:45:44 MORE IMPORTANTLY, CALL US UP AT YOUR DISCRETION, AT YOUR

01:45:48 CONVENIENCE, AND LET US KNOW HOW YOU FEEL.

01:45:51 SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, MR. CHAIR.

01:45:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:45:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:45:56 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

01:45:58 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:46:00 ALL IN FAVOR?

01:46:00 ANY OPPOSED?

01:46:01 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

01:46:07 BEING ABSENT.

01:46:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MR. MIRANDA, HE'S AT A DOCTOR'S

01:46:13 APPOINTMENT.




01:46:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A MEMO FROM HIS OFFICE THAT

01:46:16 AT 1:30 P.M. TO A PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED MEDICAL

01:46:19 APPOINTMENT.

01:46:19 AND I CAN PUT THIS IN THE RECORD FROM COUNCILMAN

01:46:22 MIRANDA'S OFFICE.

01:46:23 >>THE CLERK: OKAY.

01:46:25 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AND

01:46:28 MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

01:46:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

01:46:32 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

01:46:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, GUYS, FOLKS,

01:46:36 GENTLEMEN, COLLEAGUES?

01:46:37 ALL RIGHT.

01:46:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO HOLD

01:46:41 MY MOTION ON THE ISSUE THAT I JUST SPOKE TO, WAIT TILL

01:46:43 THE END OF THE MEETING OR DO IT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE SORT

01:46:45 OF IN THAT SUBJECT MATTER.

01:46:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MEAN, THE BALL IS ROLLING SO KEEP

01:46:50 IT ROLLING, I GUESS.

01:46:51 GO AHEAD, SIR.

01:46:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF.

01:46:54 MY MOTION IS QUITE SIMPLY THAT WE WOULD DIRECT THE

01:47:00 MR. CHAIRMAN TO WRITE A MEMO TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND

01:47:03 REQUEST THEY TAKE A VERY, VERY SERIOUS LOOK AT RETURNING

01:47:09 US TO THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR THE REASONS THAT I HAVE




01:47:11 STATED.

01:47:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE GET -- WELL, LET'S GET A

01:47:15 SECOND.

01:47:15 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:47:20 I'M TORN ON THIS AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

01:47:22 AND I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

01:47:24 I MEAN, I DIDN'T DO THE PHYSICAL WORK.

01:47:26 BUT I WATCHED PEOPLE DOING THE WORK AS I WAS COMING INTO

01:47:30 CITY HALL DAILY.

01:47:31 A LOT OF EFFORT WAS PUT INTO THIS SET-UP HERE.

01:47:34 A LOT OF MANPOWER RECONFIGURING THE SECOND FLOOR.

01:47:37 THIS IS NEW.

01:47:38 WHAT WE SEE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IN TO TAKE STEPS TO

01:47:43 SOCIAL DISTANCE, AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE HERE.

01:47:47 AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE FOLKS DOING IT.

01:47:50 THEY DID IT AS THEY WERE DIRECTED.

01:47:52 THEY DID THEIR JOBS ABOVE AND BEYOND.

01:47:54 I MEAN, THEY REALLY PUT EFFORT AND A LOT OF HARD WORK

01:47:57 HERE.

01:47:57 I DON'T KNOW IF THE CONVENTION CENTER IS AVAILABLE IN THE

01:48:00 CAPACITY THAT WE HAD BEFORE.

01:48:02 AND WAY HEARD WAS EVENTS -- NOT JUST SUPER BOWL BUT

01:48:06 BEYOND THAT.

01:48:07 THIS ROOM IS NOT AVAILABLE, THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE.

01:48:09 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS TO OFFER.




01:48:12 I KNOW IT'S A BIG AREA, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

01:48:15 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:48:16 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

01:48:17 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY.

01:48:19 I SECONDED THE MOTION.

01:48:20 IT'S MERELY A REQUEST FOR FEASIBILITY.

01:48:22 WE CAN BE TOLD NO.

01:48:24 AND THAT'S FINE.

01:48:25 BUT SOMETHING TO REMEMBER IS THAT, GOD WILLING, AND WHAT

01:48:29 ARE WE, IN THE END OF MARCH, IT'S AMAZING,

01:48:33 PEOPLE WILL BE VACCINATED, AND IF EVERYONE IS VACCINATED

01:48:41 AND BACK TO MORE NORMALCY.

01:48:43 SO I'M FINE WITH ASKING.

01:48:45 I DON'T -- YOU KNOW, IF IT'S FEASIBLE, IF THE ANSWER IS

01:48:50 WE INVESTED TOO MUCH IN THIS TO GO BACKWARDS, THAT'S A

01:48:53 REASONABLE OPINION.

01:48:54 BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH JUST ASKING.

01:48:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

01:48:57 COUNCILMAN CITRO, THEN BACK TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

01:48:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, SOME MONTHS AGO, MY OFFICE

01:49:04 PUT TOGETHER A GROUP OF TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS TO RECEIVE

01:49:09 THEIR FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER, AND I BELIEVE WE DID

01:49:12 FOUR OR FIVE PLUS ATU PLUS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, AND AT

01:49:19 THAT TIME, I RECEIVED A BILL, TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR I

01:49:25 BELIEVE $3800 FOR A 3-HOUR MEETING THAT WE HAD TO DO ALL




01:49:35 THESE COMMENDATIONS.

01:49:37 ARE WE NOW TALKING NOT ONLY MOVING CITY COUNCIL BACK TO

01:49:44 THE CONVENTION CENTER, ARE WE TALKING ALSO EVERY BOARD,

01:49:47 EVERY MINUTE COMMITTEE, EVERY COMMISSION THAT MEETS NO

01:49:52 COUNCIL CHAMBERS?

01:49:53 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THEM, TOO?

01:49:56 YOU KNOW, A LIFE IS WORTH MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF

01:49:59 DOLLARS, BUT WE WERE SPENDING A HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY

01:50:02 BEING AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.

01:50:05 I LIKE TO WEIGH COST VALUES, BECAUSE WE ARE COMING OUT OF

01:50:09 THIS PANDEMIC NOW, AND WHAT COST WILL IT BE TO MOVE

01:50:12 EVERYTHING OVER THERE AGAIN, PLUS STAFF, PLUS STAFF

01:50:17 POWER, AS OPPOSED TO STAYING HERE UNTIL WE FINALLY GET

01:50:21 OUT OF THIS PANDEMIC?

01:50:22 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

01:50:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

01:50:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:50:26 GOOD COMMENTS ALL AROUND.

01:50:27 GOOD QUESTIONS.

01:50:29 LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY FOR ONE THING.

01:50:31 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I TALKED TO MR. ROGERO, AND

01:50:35 LISTEN, I KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT FEDERAL MONEY

01:50:38 IS STILL TAX MONEY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S NOT

01:50:41 LOCAL MONEY, THAT FOR ALL OF THESE PLASTIC SHIELDS, ALL

01:50:46 OF -- EVERYTHING THEY CAN POSSIBLY DOCUMENT, WE PUT IN




01:50:49 FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND WE GET THAT MONEY BACK THROUGH THE

01:50:52 PPE PROGRAM, OKAY?

01:50:54 I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

01:50:56 SO YES, WE DON'T WANT TO BE FRIVOLOUS WITH LOCAL OR

01:51:00 FEDERAL MONEY, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS FRIVOLOUS.

01:51:03 I THINK THIS IS ABOUT DOING OUR JOB.

01:51:05 AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS IT'S GOING TO BE MORE.

01:51:08 IT MIGHT JUST BE HOPEFULLY, GOD WILLING, IT'S JUST TILL

01:51:11 THIS SUMMER, BUT IF THINGS DON'T GET SIGNIFICANTLY

01:51:16 BETTER, IT COULD GO INTO THE FALL AGAIN.

01:51:18 SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE NEXT

01:51:21 WEEK.

01:51:23 WE ARE DEFINITELY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT A MINIMUM

01:51:26 SEVERAL MORE MONTHS.

01:51:29 IN TERMS OF STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN, YES, THEY DID A

01:51:33 WONDERFUL JOB, AND WE PAT THEM ON THE BACK FOR IT, BUT WE

01:51:39 ARE NOT TELLING THEM THEY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB OR WE

01:51:43 DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DID.

01:51:44 IT WORKED FOR THE TIME BEING BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD

01:51:48 INFORM OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC.

01:51:49 I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THE PUBLIC EXPECTS

01:51:53 MORE.

01:51:54 AND LIKE MR. VIERA SAID, THE LETTER IS A REQUEST.

01:51:59 IT'S A REQUEST THAT'S ASKING FOR THE FEASIBILITY OF IT

01:52:03 AND ALL THE FACTORS, AND THE AVAILABILITY.




01:52:06 OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANYBODY OUT OF LEGITIMATE

01:52:10 USE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

01:52:11 BUT IF THEY HAVE THE ROOM, I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK, AND

01:52:16 I HOPE YOU DO, TOO.

01:52:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

01:52:19 IF THERE IS -- COUNCILMAN GUDES.

01:52:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS YOU RECALL, WHEN THIS MOVE WAS GOING

01:52:28 TO BE MADE, I MADE COMMENTS ABOUT IT.

01:52:31 BECAUSE I KNEW WE WERE BACK IN THAT SITUATION.

01:52:35 I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO COME BACK TO US BEING SHELTERED IN

01:52:39 HERE, AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC.

01:52:46 WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHO OUR CLIENT IS.

01:52:48 YEAH, I KNOW, MR. CITRO, WE ARE TALKING MONEY.

01:52:52 I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE COSTS, CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT

01:52:56 THE CITY INCURS FROM THESE DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS TO DO

01:52:59 JOBS, AND WHY DOES IT COST THAT MUCH TO DO?

01:53:06 I CAN GO BUILD A NEW HOUSE.

01:53:12 I UNDERSTAND FEASIBILITY.

01:53:15 BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE A LEGISLATIVE BODY OF

01:53:20 THE CITY.

01:53:21 AND SOMETIMES THE WIRES GET CROSSED SOMETIMES.

01:53:38 SOMETIMES IT'S CONFUSING.

01:53:39 IT'S A LEGISLATIVE BODY.

01:53:40 AS I SAID BEFORE, IT SHOULD BE AN OPTION OF WHERE WE WANT

01:53:43 TO BE HOUSED AT, OR HOW WE WANT TO WORK.




01:53:56 BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET A CHANCE TO EXPRESS

01:53:58 CONCERNS, OR SEND A LETTER TO CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER OR

01:54:03 PERHAPS THE MAYOR MIGHT ENTERTAIN SOME FOLKS TO COME IN.

01:54:07 BUT FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THINGS THAT GO ON THROUGH

01:54:09 THIS CITY,

01:54:18 THEY CONTACT US.

01:54:19 THEY WANT THAT CONNECTION WITH THEIR COUNCIL AND THIS

01:54:21 BODY.

01:54:21 YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A CONNECTION RIGHT NOW.

01:54:24 LET'S JUST FACE ITSELF.

01:54:25 THEY ARE DOWN THERE, SECOND FLOOR, THEY DON'T GET A

01:54:27 CHANCE TO LOOK IN OUR EYES AND WE LOOK IN THEIR EYES.

01:54:33 IT IS A DIFFERENT FEEL.

01:54:37 IT IS A DIFFERENT FEEL.

01:54:38 BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF THE CONVENTION

01:54:40 CENTER, AND I SAID BEFORE WE SHOULD HAVE HELD AT THE

01:54:44 SUPER BOWL, A AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LONG HAUL.

01:54:54 THAT'S WHY I SAID, AFTER THE SUPER BOWL, RESERVE SO IF WE

01:55:01 WANT TO GO BACK WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT A

01:55:04 LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

01:55:05 BUT AS MR. VIERA SAID, IT DOESN'T HURT TO ASK AT THIS

01:55:11 POINT, BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY EVEN WITH THE ASK, IF

01:55:13 COUNCIL FEELS THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND I THINK THE

01:55:17 CONVENTION CENTER, IF THIS BODY WANTS TO DO SO, NEEDS TO

01:55:21 MAKE ARRANGEMENTS OF THIS COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO BACK.




01:55:25 BECAUSE WE ARE A LEGISLATIVE BODY.

01:55:27 WE HAVE A JOB TO DO.

01:55:29 AND THE PEOPLE WANTS TO HEAR FROM US, SEE US, AND AT

01:55:33 TIMES I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO PEOPLE'S EYES AND

01:55:37 TALK TO PEOPLE, AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ISSUES.

01:55:40 AND THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

01:55:43 EVENTUALLY IF IT COMES BACK AND WE FEEL WE NEED TO GO

01:55:46 BACK, AND EXPRESS TO THE ADMINISTRATION WE NEED TO GO

01:55:49 BACK, TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE NEED TO GO BACK.

01:55:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

01:55:55 DINGFELDER.

01:55:56 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:55:57 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY FAST.

01:55:58 YOU KNOW, I WILL SUPPORT THIS BUT AGAIN IT'S MERELY

01:56:02 ASKING THE QUESTION, AND ALSO I'M ALSO VOTING FOR THIS

01:56:05 AND THE IDEA OF ASKING FOR INFORMATION BECAUSE COSTS WERE

01:56:09 BROUGHT UP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE.

01:56:11 AND THAT COULD INFORM MY DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT

01:56:14 WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

01:56:14 BUT AGAIN ASKING FOR INFORMATION IN THAT REGARD IS I

01:56:17 THINK A REASONABLE REQUEST, AND I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT

01:56:19 THAT.

01:56:20 THANK YOU.

01:56:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

01:56:24 DINGFELDER.




01:56:25 A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:56:27 ALL IN FAVOR?

01:56:27 ANY OPPOSED?

01:56:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:56:32 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

01:56:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.

01:56:34 ALL RIGHT.

01:56:35 WE HAVE I BELIEVE THE CHIEF OF STAFF STANDING BY FOR ANY

01:56:38 QUESTIONS -- I'M SORRY, CHIEF OF STAFF OR MR. ROGERO?

01:56:42 YES.

01:56:43 DENNIS ROGERO AND SAL RUGGIERO.

01:56:46 ALL RIGHT.

01:56:47 A LOT OF RUGGERIOS AND ROGEROs.

01:56:54 ITEM 61.

01:56:56 THAT GOES WITH 62.

01:56:57 >> IT'S LIKE A NIGHTMARE WE KEEP COMING BACK, HUH?

01:57:04 ON MARCH 4th, I BRIEFED YOU ON A LONG-TERM VISION

01:57:08 THAT WE SHARED REGARDING CITY FACILITIES, AND AT THAT

01:57:12 TIME COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER REQUESTED A TWO-WEEK EXTENSION

01:57:15 TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION BY OUR

01:57:18 STAFF.

01:57:19 SO WE ARE BACK TO REPORT ON THAT TODAY.

01:57:22 BUT WE ARE FOCUSING IN ON 2515 EAST HANNA.

01:57:27 AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TABLE TODAY, IS WE ARE

01:57:30 REQUESTING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE CITY CENTER AT THIS




01:57:33 TIME.

01:57:35 TODAY, PRESENTATION WILL SHARE THE MANY BENEFITS OF THIS

01:57:38 PROJECT, AND FINALLY, EACH OF YOU HAD SPECIFIC QUESTIONS

01:57:41 AND COMMENTS, AND TODAY'S PRESENTATION WAS DESIGNED TO

01:57:46 RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

01:57:47 FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WANTED A REPORT ON LEASE

01:57:52 SAVINGS.

01:57:52 COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD FOUR POINTS PRESENTED IN AN E-MAIL

01:57:55 THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS.

01:57:57 COUNCILMAN CITRO MADE A WONDERFUL SUGGESTION AS FAR AS

01:58:02 PLACING A CITY WELLNESS CLINIC WITHIN THE NEW BUILDING

01:58:06 FOR EMPLOYEES, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

01:58:09 COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTED PUBLIC OUTREACH, AND I THINK YOU

01:58:12 SAW THE SOME OF THAT TODAY, AND YOU WILL GET MORE OF A

01:58:16 REPORT ON IT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WITH THE

01:58:18 SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

01:58:21 BUT I WILL SAY THAT KNOWING THE FOLKS THAT PUT THIS

01:58:25 TOGETHER, I KNOW WE HAVE MET YOUR EXPECTATIONS, AND WE

01:58:28 ARE ASKING YOU TO ALLOW US TO PROCEED WITH THIS GREAT

01:58:31 PROJECT.

01:58:32 SO AT THIS TIME, I AM GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER

01:58:34 TO THE DIRECTOR OF LAND AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, ADRI

01:58:44 CALINA.

01:58:47 MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD PUT THE PowerPoint ON, I

01:58:51 WOULD APPRECIATE IT.




01:58:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, WE HAVE THE PowerPoint ON.

01:58:58 WHENEVER YOU ARE READY.

01:58:59 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

01:59:03 ADRI CALINA, DIRECTOR OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.

01:59:08 IF WE COULD GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

01:59:12 THE ONE AFTER, PLEASE.

01:59:18 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

01:59:20 PERFECT.

01:59:21 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

01:59:23 YES, AS MR. RUGGERIO MENTIONED WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT

01:59:28 THIS BUILDING THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW AND THE

01:59:30 PROPERTY THAT IT SITS ON, 2515 EAST HANNA AVENUE.

01:59:34 IT IS A VACANT CITY-OWNED WAREHOUSE, AND WE ARE

01:59:37 REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL TO DEMOLISH AND DESIGN A NEW

01:59:41 BUILDING THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS AND THE FUNDING THAT YOU

01:59:44 HAVE IN ITEM 61 AND 62 BEFORE YOU.

01:59:48 I KNOW YOU SEE, AS I SEE, AN EYESORE IN THIS BUILDING,

01:59:52 BUT I AM ASKING IF YOU COULD LOOK BEYOND THE EYESORE AND

01:59:55 THINK OF THE POTENTIAL THAT THE 11 ACRES THAT THIS

01:59:59 BUILDING HAS, AND THE HOPE THAT IT OFFERS TO THAT ENTIRE

02:00:03 COMMUNITY, AND THE SOLUTION THAT IT PRESENTS TO TWO

02:00:07 PROBLEMS THAT MR. RUGGERIO AND MR. ROGERO SHARED WITH YOU

02:00:13 TWO WEEKS AGO.

02:00:14 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

02:00:16 SO ONE OF THE TWO EXPIRING LEASES THAT THEY SPOKE TO YOU




02:00:20 ABOUT IS THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING AT 1400 NORTH

02:00:24 BOULEVARD.

02:00:25 IT'S HOME TO NEARLY 100 EMPLOYEES.

02:00:28 AND IF YOU SEE IN THIS PICTURE, IT IS AN OLD PICTURE, AND

02:00:31 YOU CAN TELL IT'S WELL OVER A YEAR BECAUSE IT'S A PACKED

02:00:35 PARKING LOT.

02:00:36 IT'S PRECOVID DAYS.

02:00:38 BACK AT A TIME WHEN CUSTOMERS WERE ABLE TO COME TO THE

02:00:40 BUILDING.

02:00:41 THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1968.

02:00:45 SO AS WE ALL KNOW, IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE ENERGY

02:00:49 EFFICIENCIES IN MIND WHEN IT WAS BUILT.

02:00:51 WE HAVE BEEN LEASING THIS BUILDING SINCE 1993, AND OUR

02:00:55 OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS ANNUALLY ARE $183,000.

02:00:59 THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING IS NOT THE BEST BUILDING FOR

02:01:04 NEITHER OUR CUSTOMERS NOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

02:01:08 AGAIN, I ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THIS PARKING LOT AND YOU

02:01:11 SEE IT FULL.

02:01:12 THE MOST THIS PARKING LOT HAS TO OFFER IS 95 PARKING

02:01:16 SPACES.

02:01:17 OF THOSE 95 PARKING SPACES, WE HAVE DEDICATED FOUR ADA

02:01:22 SPACES AND IN MAYOR CASTOR'S COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY

02:01:26 AND RESILIENCY, SIX ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT OPERATE OUT OF

02:01:30 THAT BUILDING AND THEIR CHARGING STATIONS ARE THERE.

02:01:34 SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?




02:01:35 THAT LEAVES US WITH 85 PARKING SPACES.

02:01:38 AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIVISION IS

02:01:41 HOME TO 80 EMPLOYEES.

02:01:43 SO IF YOU DO THE MATH, THAT LEAVES FIVE SPACES, A

02:01:46 WHOPPING FIVE SPACES FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

02:01:49 WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO TRY TO ENSURE SOME SPACES FOR OUR

02:01:52 CUSTOMERS, THE INSPECTORS THAT WORK OUT OF THAT BUILDING

02:01:55 ARE PARKING REMOTELY AT 15 DIFFERENT SITES JUST TO BE

02:01:59 ABLE TO IMPROVE OUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.

02:02:04 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

02:02:06 AND ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION IS THAT LAST BUILDING WE

02:02:09 SAW, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REQUIRES A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO

02:02:14 BE ABLE TO STAY IN THAT BUILDING.

02:02:17 AND ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO RENEW THAT LEASE,

02:02:20 IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FINANCIALLY, AND IT IS NOT A GOOD

02:02:24 USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR A BUILDING THAT WE WILL NEVER

02:02:27 CALL HOME, NOT OURS, NOT OURS.

02:02:29 THE NEXT BUILDING THAT THE LEASE IS EXPIRING IN MARCH OF

02:02:33 2023 IS AT 4900 WEST LEMON STREET AND THAT'S HOME TO A

02:02:38 LITTLE OVER 60 EMPLOYEES.

02:02:40 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS BUILDING, YOU WILL SEE TO THE

02:02:42 LEFT 275.

02:02:45 AND WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THIS LEASE IN 2017, THIS 1981

02:02:51 BUILDING AGAIN, NOT THE BEST IN TERMS OF ENERGY

02:02:54 EFFICIENCY, WE KNEW IT WAS SHORT TERM.




02:02:57 THIS BUILDING WILL BE DEMOLISHED IN 2023 LEAVING THOSE

02:03:01 EMPLOYEES WITH NO PLACE TO CALL HOME.

02:03:05 AGAIN, IT JUST REALLY TAKES US BACK TO THAT EYE SORRY AND

02:03:08 THE POTENTIAL THAT IT OFFERS.

02:03:10 ALTHOUGH EXPANDING 275 WHICH WILL HAPPEN ONCE THIS

02:03:14 BUILDING IS DEMOLISHED IS GREAT FOR IMPROVING MOBILITY,

02:03:18 IT'S NOT GREAT FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE BEING

02:03:21 DISPLACED.

02:03:22 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

02:03:29 SO AGAIN, THE 11 ACRES OFFERS SO MUCH HOPE AND SO MUCH

02:03:33 POTENTIAL.

02:03:35 WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH IT ALL.

02:03:36 AND MAYOR CASTOR HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR ON HER FIVE

02:03:40 STRATEGIC GOALS.

02:03:41 STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY CENTER SERVICES, ENHANCING

02:03:45 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, INCREASING HOUSING AFFORDABILITY,

02:03:48 IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY, ESTABLISHING

02:03:50 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY, AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN A

02:03:55 PROJECT WILL HIT ONE OF THOSE GOALS.

02:03:58 TWO, THREE ON THE BEST DAY, BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE

02:04:01 SUCH A RARE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE US TODAY TO HIT ALL FIVE

02:04:05 OF THESE STRATEGIC GOALS.

02:04:07 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

02:04:10 AND ALTHOUGH I HAVE SAID THESE ARE MAYOR CASTOR'S

02:04:13 STRATEGIC GOALS, THE REALITY IS IT'S A SHARED VISION.




02:04:16 I HAVE HEARD EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, EACH JUST THIS

02:04:19 MORNING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND

02:04:22 THE IMPORTANCE OF INVESTING IN OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE

02:04:27 BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST HERE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT

02:04:30 SUSTAINABILITY AND THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS NEEDED.

02:04:33 ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ITEMS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO

02:04:36 EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

02:04:37 SO THIS IS A SHARED VISION.

02:04:39 WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CO-LOCATE SIX CITY DEPARTMENTS

02:04:43 UNDER ONE ROOF.

02:04:44 THINK ABOUT HOW QUICKLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER OUR

02:04:47 CUSTOMERS QUESTIONS IF WE CAN TALK TO THE PERSON ACROSS

02:04:49 THE HALL OR ON THE NEXT FLOOR.

02:04:52 AND THINK ABOUT OUR CUSTOMERS WILL BE ABLE TO PARK.

02:04:54 WE WILL HAVE AMPLE PARKING FOR THEM.

02:04:57 AND JUST THINK ABOUT FOR A MINUTE, THIS BUILDING WILL BE

02:05:00 SOMETHING THE EMPLOYEES CAN CALL HOME.

02:05:03 IT WILL BE OURS, A STATE-OF-THE-ART LEED SILVER BUILDING.

02:05:08 WE WILL BE REVAMPING THAT CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AS WE HAVE

02:05:11 ALREADY BEGUN WITH THE HIRING OF DIANE JAMAI, OUR

02:05:16 DIRECTOR.

02:05:17 THAT TEAM WILL BE HOUSED IN THAT BUILDING.

02:05:18 THERE IS NO QUESTION.

02:05:19 OUR CUSTOMERS WILL BE FIRST AND FOREMOST IN THAT SITE.

02:05:24 WE WILL BE CREATING JOBS, NOT JUST DURING THE DEMOLITION




02:05:27 AND DESIGN PHASE, THE CONSTRUCTION AND WELL BEYOND

02:05:31 BECAUSE OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WILL BE THERE.

02:05:33 COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE STRENGTHENING PARTNERSHIPS ON ALL

02:05:37 LEVELS, WITH OUR EMPLOYEES BY INVESTING IN THEM, WITH OUR

02:05:40 NEIGHBORS.

02:05:41 THOSE ARE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT WE ARE HOPEFUL IF

02:05:44 YOU APPROVE THIS TODAY THAT THOSE WILL BE OUR NEIGHBORS.

02:05:47 WE WILL BE STRENGTHENING PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE PRIVATE

02:05:49 SECTORS THROUGH OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

02:05:52 SO, AGAIN, WE ARE REALLY MAKING -- OR WE WILL BE TAKING

02:05:57 GREAT STRIDES IF YOU APPROVE THIS TODAY.

02:05:59 NEXT SLIDE.

02:06:03 THE HANNA AVENUE CONCEPT CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN CITIZEN

02:06:06 SERVICES.

02:06:07 WE HAVE AGAIN THAT UNIT DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION THAT I

02:06:09 SPOKE OF.

02:06:10 WE WILL IMPROVE COMMUNITY TRUST.

02:06:12 OUR EBO OFFICE WILL BE RIGHT THERE ON HANNA AVENUE SO

02:06:17 SMALL WOMEN AND MINORITY BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE

02:06:19 CERTIFIED IN THAT PROGRAM WILL BE ABLE TO WALK UP, DRIVE

02:06:22 UP, THEY RIDE THE BUS, THERE'S A BUS STATION FIVE MINUTES

02:06:25 AWAY.

02:06:26 HOWEVER THEY WANT TO REACH US, THEY CAN, AND WE WILL BE

02:06:28 ACCESSIBLE TO THEM.

02:06:30 OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICES WILL BE RIGHT THERE ON-SITE




02:06:33 ENHANCING INCLUSIVITY AND PROMOTING TRANSPARENCY.

02:06:37 IT IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT I AM SO EXCITED TO BE

02:06:39 PART OF.

02:06:40 WE WILL BE BRINGING CITY HALL AND GOVERNMENT INTO THE

02:06:43 COMMUNITY.

02:06:43 WE WILL NOT JUST BE THEIR PUBLIC SERVANTS.

02:06:46 WE WILL BE THEIR NEIGHBORS.

02:06:48 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

02:06:50 SO WHERE ARE WE NOW?

02:06:51 WE ARE VERY MUCH IN THE PREDEVELOPMENT PHASE.

02:06:54 WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT WE ARE BEGINNING THIS

02:06:57 JOURNEY.

02:06:58 WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PRESIDENTS AND

02:07:00 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS, MANY OF WHOM YOU

02:07:04 HEARD FROM TODAY, AND WE ARE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO

02:07:07 CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE AND THAT COMMUNICATION WHICH WILL

02:07:10 BE A TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION.

02:07:11 WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THEM, PROBABLY MORE THAN THEY NEED

02:07:15 TO HEAR FROM US BECAUSE WE NEED TO DESIGN A BUILDING THAT

02:07:18 WILL COMPLIMENT THE BUILDING, EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN

02:07:21 CARLSON SAID, AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WE WANT A

02:07:24 BUILDING IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT EVERYONE WILL BE PROUD

02:07:26 OF.

02:07:27 THIS MORNING, I BELIEVE IT WAS MS. GORDON TALKING ABOUT

02:07:30 THE AMENITIES AND THE GREEN SPACE.




02:07:32 THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO CONTINUE, IT'S SOMETHING

02:07:35 WE WANT AS WELL.

02:07:36 WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE THAT WE HAVE BEGUN, TO

02:07:39 WORK ON THAT SITE PREPARATION.

02:07:42 THE DIALOGUE WILL CONTINUE AND BE ASSURED YOU WILL

02:07:45 CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM US AND SEE US.

02:07:47 WE WILL PROVIDE YOU UPDATES, AND WE WILL BE BEFORE YOU

02:07:50 AGAIN IN A FEW MONTHS, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS WE ARE

02:07:53 GOING TO BE NEEDING FROM YOU.

02:07:55 THIS PARTNERSHIP IS ONE THAT WE WILL BE BEFORE YOU

02:07:58 REGULARLY.

02:07:59 AND AGAIN, IF COUNCIL APPROVES THESE RESOLUTIONS, WE ARE

02:08:03 PREPARED TO BEGIN OUR COMMUNITY WORKSHOP AND CONTINUE

02:08:05 THAT DIALOGUE.

02:08:07 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

02:08:09 AND NOW TO LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AGGRESSIVE

02:08:12 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WE HAVE JANEL McGREGOR.

02:08:18 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

02:08:23 AS MS. CALINA SHARED, WE ARE READY TO EMBARK ON A VERY

02:08:27 AGGRESSIVE AND ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN THAT I'M

02:08:31 PROUD TO SAY IS BEING LED BY SOME OF THE MOST ALL-STAR

02:08:35 INCREDIBLE OUTREACH EXPERTS THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE CITY

02:08:39 WHO HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY ARE

02:08:45 PASSIONATE ABOUT SERVING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

02:08:47 NOW, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAN IS TO PROVIDE OUR COMMUNITY




02:08:50 MEMBERS WITH TIMELY AND ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT ALIGNS

02:08:57 WITH EACH PHASE OF THE PROJECT, AND OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS

02:09:00 TO INCLUDE ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND ENSURE THAT THEY

02:09:03 ARE PART OF THIS EXCITING AND TRANSFORMATIVE JOURNEY

02:09:08 RIGHT ALONGSIDE US.

02:09:10 BECAUSE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS FOR THE

02:09:13 COMMUNITY, AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT IT IS DONE IN LOCK

02:09:20 ARMS WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL.

02:09:23 AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

02:09:28 AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO ENGAGING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU

02:09:32 ALONG THE WAY, AND PROVIDING THAT ACCURATE AND TIMELY

02:09:36 INFORMATION THAT WE ARE READY TO SHARE WITH OUR COMMUNITY

02:09:40 MEMBERS.

02:09:40 THANK YOU.

02:09:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THIS?

02:09:51 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

02:09:52 MY NAME IS BRENDA McKENZIE, THE DIRECTOR OF WORKFORCE

02:09:56 PARTNERSHIP.

02:09:57 I WANTED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THIS OPPORTUNITY.

02:09:59 THE OPPORTUNITY IS TRULY SIGNIFICANT FROM A WORKFORCE

02:10:03 DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.

02:10:04 IT'S A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO MEANINGFULLY

02:10:08 CONNECT PEOPLE WITH LASTING CLEAR PATHWAYS USING CURRENT

02:10:12 METHODOLOGY OF COLLABORATION AND CROSS POLLINATION, IN

02:10:17 CREATING DYNAMIC LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS.




02:10:20 IN SHORT, IT'S A LIVING LAB, A MODEL FOR COMMUNITY FOCUS

02:10:27 TRAINING, CREATING A SUPPORTIVE ECOSYSTEM OF LEARNING,

02:10:31 GROWTH, AND CONNECTIVITY.

02:10:33 ELEMENTS THAT SIGNIFICANTLY BOLSTER LONG-TERM SUCCESS.

02:10:38 COMMUNITY FOCUS WORKFORCE GREATLY AIDS IN OUTREACH AND

02:10:42 RECRUITMENT, HELPING US AND OUR PARTNERS REACH MORE

02:10:47 PEOPLE CONNECTING THEM WITH NEEDED RESOURCES AND

02:10:50 TRAINING.

02:10:51 THE COLLABORATIVE FOR THE FACILITY SUCH AS HANNA SERVES

02:10:55 TO GREATLY AID CAREER PLANNING WITH THE FOCUS ON

02:10:58 PATHWAYS.

02:10:59 OUR INTERACTION WILL BE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE TOOLS AND

02:11:03 SUPPORT TO GUIDE PEOPLE FOR THEIR ENTIRE WORKING LIVES.

02:11:10 FOR THE LEVEL OF IMPACT WE WANT, THIS HAS TO BE MORE THAN

02:11:13 SIMPLY CONNECTING PEOPLE TO A JOB BUT CONNECTING PEOPLE

02:11:17 TO A RESILIENT PATH FORWARD.

02:11:20 IN SHORT, A CAREER.

02:11:24 THANK YOU.

02:11:24 OUR NEXT SPEAKER.

02:11:24 >>VIK BHIDE: SPEAKING OF CONNECTIVITY, I AM GOING TO

02:11:33 SPEAK TO HOW WE ARE GOING TO MANAGE THE MOBILITY FOR THE

02:11:45 COMMUNITY, AND AS OTHER SPEAKERS BEFORE ME HAVE

02:11:47 MENTIONED, WE ARE COMMITTED TO LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY

02:11:50 AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO IMPROVE THE MOBILITY

02:11:54 OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO




02:12:01 TO RELIEVE STRESS ON THE NEIGHBORS.

02:12:05 WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THAT STUDY AND LOOK

02:12:08 AT MANY ASPECTS OF HOW WE CAN MORE EFFICIENTLY MOVE

02:12:14 PEOPLE AROUND, BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THIS

02:12:16 DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO -- THE INITIATIVE.

02:12:22 THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT IS BY THE LOCATION ITSELF.

02:12:25 IT SITS ON A RAIL LINE.

02:12:26 IT SITS ON AN EXISTING TRANSIT CORRIDOR.

02:12:30 IT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT

02:12:34 WHERE WE TAKE DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE MOBILITY OPTIONS

02:12:37 EXIST.

02:12:38 SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

02:12:40 OUR FOCUS WILL BE SAFETY AND VISUAL.

02:12:45 WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES

02:12:49 SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE, VISIBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE IS

02:12:52 STREETLIGHTING FOR NIGHT-TIME, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

02:12:59 WE'LL PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.

02:13:02 THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER CRITICAL CONSIDERATION.

02:13:04 THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A CERTAIN CHARACTER.

02:13:08 THE COMMUNITY THERE.

02:13:09 THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

02:13:11 WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO PRESERVE THAT CHARACTER AND

02:13:14 ENHANCE WHERE POSSIBLE.

02:13:16 THIS PROJECT AND THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT WILL REQUIRE

02:13:23 INTERSECTION AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT, BETTER PIKE PATH,




02:13:26 AND CONSIDERATION OF PROJECTED GROWTH.

02:13:28 ALL OF THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED IN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AND

02:13:32 SUBSEQUENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY PROJECTS.

02:13:34 WE'LL WORK WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS AS WELL, THE COUNTY, TO

02:13:39 MAKE SURE WE HAVE BETTER TRANSIT OPTIONS.

02:13:43 TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BETTER CONNECTIVITY FROM MAJOR

02:13:45 ARTERIALS LIKE NEBRASKA AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, WHICH

02:13:49 CONNECT TO THE INTERSTATE AS WELL.

02:13:52 AND ALSO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS

02:13:57 AVAILABLE FOR TRANSPORT.

02:14:00 AND FINALLY, WE WILL ONCE AGAIN REVISIT WITH THE

02:14:04 COMMUNITY, UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS, ALL ENGAGEMENT

02:14:08 NEEDED AND ENSURE THAT WHAT WE HEARD IS WHAT WE ARE GOING

02:14:11 TO DO GOING FORWARD.

02:14:14 SO WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER.

02:14:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:14:20 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

02:14:27 AS HE STATED I'M KAYON HENDERSON FROM HOUSING AND

02:14:29 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.

02:14:32 AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PROMISE THAT WE OFFER, WE DO

02:14:35 OFFER SOME ONE ON ONE SERVICE WHERE IS WE DO NEED THE

02:14:38 CLIENTS TO KIND OF COME TO OUR LOCATION.

02:14:40 WE HAVE CLASSES.

02:14:41 WE HAVE WORKSHOPS.

02:14:43 AND WE DO OFFER SERVICES TO COLLECT SOME APPLICATIONS.




02:14:47 THIS LOCATION WOULD REALLY BE IMPORTANT FOR US AS IT'S

02:14:50 CLOSER TO PUBLIC MASS TRANSIT TO HELP THOSE WHO NEED

02:14:54 THOSE SERVICES TO HAVE AN EASIER ACCESS TO COME AND

02:14:59 ACCESS SERVICES.

02:15:00 THE ACCESSIBILITY.

02:15:02 PUBLIC SERVICE IS REALLY CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF

02:15:04 PERFORMANCE CRITERIA FOR US AND DOES REFLECT THE CAPACITY

02:15:07 THAT WE HAVE TO ACCURATELY RECOGNIZE THE DIVERSITY AND

02:15:12 NATURE OF THE DIFFERENT NEEDS FOR THESE CLIENTS ARE MET.

02:15:15 SO AS WE HAVE THOSE WHO HAVE ADA COMPLIANCE, THOSE WHO

02:15:18 HAVE TRANSIT NEEDS, THIS LOCATION JUST KIND OF OFFERS US

02:15:21 SOME MORE CENTRALIZED LOCATION SO THAT WE CAN OFFER MORE

02:15:24 SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC.

02:15:26 AND I WILL HAND IT OVER TO DENNIS.

02:15:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO.

02:15:41 >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

02:15:44 AS WE HAVE SHARED WITH YOU IN THE PAST, THE $6.2 MILLION

02:15:48 ITEM IS FOR AN INITIAL INVESTMENT IN A SERIES OF PROJECTS

02:15:52 THAT ARE LIKELY TO EXCEED $100 MILLION.

02:15:57 A PRICE TAG OF THAT MAGNITUDE IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME

02:16:01 DEBT SERVICE ISSUANCE, LIKELY A BOND OR SERIES OF BONDS.

02:16:04 FORTUNATELY AS WE DISCUSSED, WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS TO

02:16:07 MITIGATE THESE EXPENSES.

02:16:09 FIRST OF COURSE THE POTENTIAL LAND SALES ASSOCIATED WITH

02:16:11 THE DOWNTOWN POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND THE SPRUCE STREET




02:16:15 PROPERTIES.

02:16:16 ARE GOING TO MILLIONS, EVEN TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

02:16:19 ANOTHER VERY SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL HELP

02:16:22 MITIGATE THESE COSTS IS NOT PAYING THE $35 MILLION

02:16:26 ANTICIPATED TO REHAB AND MAINTAIN THE DOWNTOWN POLICE

02:16:30 HEADQUARTERS.

02:16:32 AND A REMAINDER THAT THAT $35 MILLION IS NOT CURRENTLY IN

02:16:35 THE BUDGET.

02:16:36 BUT IT WILL BE A LARGE COST AVOIDANCE WE WON'T HAVE TO

02:16:41 BUDGET IN THE FUTURE.

02:16:43 AS WE HAVE SHARED, THE BOTTOM LINE ON POLICE WORK

02:16:45 HEADQUARTERS IS VERY LARGE EXPENSES ARE COMING IF WE

02:16:49 REMAIN IN THAT BUILDING.

02:16:50 AS THIS SLIDE SHOWS, AND AS YOU HEARD THE DIRECTORS SPEAK

02:16:54 TO, WILL ALSO BENEFIT FROM THE REALLOCATION OF LEASES AND

02:16:58 MAINTENANCE FUND THAT IS CORRECT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.

02:17:00 AND YOU SEE HERE, WE ARE ANTICIPATING APPROXIMATELY

02:17:03 $800,000 A YEAR TO OFFSET THE DEBT SERVICE COSTS.

02:17:08 WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOCATE COSTS

02:17:10 ASSOCIATED WITH THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND RECEIVE

02:17:14 FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES, INCLUDING A POTENTIAL 10 TO

02:17:18 NEARLY $20 MILLION IN STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING

02:17:21 THAT WE WILL BE PURSUING.

02:17:23 ONE NOTE ON THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

02:17:26 COUNCILMAN CITRO HAD ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING IF THERE'S




02:17:29 ANY DEBT SERVICE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING.

02:17:32 UNDOUBTEDLY REMEMBERING THE DEBT RESTRUCTURING WE DID IN

02:17:35 THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR.

02:17:38 TO REFRESH, THE MAYOR RECOMMENDED AND COUNCIL APPROVED A

02:17:41 DEBT RESTRUCTURING THAT INCLUDED THE 1996 CAPITAL

02:17:45 APPRECIATION BONDS, OR CABS, AND THEY WERE ASSOCIATED

02:17:49 WITH AMONG OTHER THINGS PURCHASE OF THE POLICE

02:17:53 HEADQUARTERS DOWNTOWN.

02:17:55 FIRST, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT APPROVAL.

02:17:57 YOU WILL RECALL IT WAS A VERY PROACTIVE ACTION IN THE

02:18:00 MIDST OF VERY CHALLENGING TIMES THAT CONTINUES TODAY.

02:18:04 AND HAS ALREADY PROVIDED BUDGET FLEXIBILITY AND CASH FLOW

02:18:07 RELIEF AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT THROUGH 2023.

02:18:12 THE ONLY CONDITION REMAINING ON THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS

02:18:15 IS ANY PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE WILL HAVE TO BE USED FOR

02:18:19 ANOTHER PUBLIC PURPOSE PROJECT, AND OF COURSE THIS

02:18:23 PROJECT APPEARS TO THE BILL NICELY.

02:18:26 AND OF COURSE IN ADDITION TO THESE DOLLARS AND CENTS

02:18:29 BENEFITS, THERE ARE THOSE BENEFITS THAT CAN'T BE COUNTED

02:18:31 IN DOLLARS AND CENTS, AND YOU HAVE HEARD THE TEAM

02:18:34 REFERENCE SOME OF THEM ALREADY.

02:18:35 THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE SURROUNDING

02:18:39 AREAS DUE TO THIS PROJECT, OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES AND

02:18:42 EFFECTIVENESS THAT COME FROM CONSOLIDATION AND

02:18:45 CENTRALIZATION, AND THE EQUITY INCREASE BY PLACING THESE




02:18:49 SERVICES IN THE HEART OF SOME UNDERSERVED AREAS.

02:18:53 FINALLY, NOTHING AS LARGE AS THIS PROJECT IS DONE IN A

02:18:57 VAC YOU'LL, AND WE WILL INCORPORATE IT INTO THE BUDGET

02:19:00 AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

02:19:03 THANK YOU.

02:19:03 THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

02:19:04 AND I CAN ANSWER ANY FINANCIAL RELATED QUESTIONS YOU

02:19:06 HAVE.

02:19:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU THE FINAL SPEAKER SIR?

02:19:10 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.

02:19:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

02:19:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

02:19:16 FINE JOB THIS AFTERNOON AND THIS MORNING.

02:19:20 I GUESS SADLY -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNICATION

02:19:25 IS CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC.

02:19:29 THERE'S A LOT OF RUMORS OUT ON THE PUBLIC SIDE AND WE

02:19:32 HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CLEAR UP SO THE PUBLIC CAN

02:19:35 UNDERSTAND AND MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT THIS 100

02:19:39 MILLION, OR MAY EXCEED 100 MILLION, IS NOT FOR MERELY A

02:19:45 POLICE STATION.

02:19:45 IS THAT CORRECT?

02:19:48 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR, CORRECT.

02:19:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC

02:19:52 UNDERSTANDS THAT.

02:19:53 WHATEVER PSAS YOU HAVE GOT, THERE'S A LOT OF




02:19:54 MISCOMMUNICATION THAT THIS PROJECT IS SOLELY FOR THE

02:19:58 POLICE DEPARTMENT.

02:19:59 AND I HEARD DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, I HEARD A BUNCH OF

02:20:04 DEPARTMENTS, AND I ALSO WANT TO KNOW, IN PHASES, IF THIS

02:20:08 GOES FORWARD, WHAT WILL BE PHASED IN FIRST?

02:20:13 DO WE KNOW?

02:20:14 AGAIN, THIS IS THIS MONEY, THIS $6.2 MILLION, IS THIS A

02:20:19 PHASE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE DESIGN FOR THIS POLICE

02:20:25 DEPARTMENT AS WELL, FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS?

02:20:27 CAN YOU ELABORATE THAT?

02:20:29 >>SAL RUGGIERO: YES, SIR. TAKE THE POLICE PART OF IT

02:20:31 RIGHT NOW.

02:20:32 WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH THAT TODAY.

02:20:34 WE ARE NOT TO THAT POINT.

02:20:35 WE ARE DEALING WITH THE CITY CENTER.

02:20:36 THE $6.2 MILLION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS TO DO

02:20:41 WITH DESIGN AND DEMOLITION ON THE SITE AT 2515 EAST

02:20:45 HANNA.

02:20:45 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SOLELY FOCUSING ON TODAY.

02:20:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SEWED, THIS

02:20:55 6.2 MILLION IS STRICT LIB FOR THE HANNA OLD BUILDING FOR

02:21:02 THIS SIX DEPARTMENTS.

02:21:04 >>SAL RUGGIERO: CORRECT.

02:21:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S NO WAY THIS 6.2 MILLION HAS

02:21:14 ANYTHING AFFECT EFFECT ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOWN THE




02:21:16 ROAD?

02:21:18 >>SAL RUGGIERO: CORRECT.

02:21:18 WE ARE NOT TO THAT POINT YET ON THE TPD.

02:21:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, BECAUSE

02:21:25 AGAIN, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF RUMORS

02:21:30 THAT ARE OUT THERE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLEAR THIS

02:21:32 UP WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING AND THE

02:21:35 MEDIA WHO MAY BE WATCHING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS

02:21:38 PARTICULAR DOLLARS YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS FOR THE DESIGN

02:21:41 OF THE CITY CENTER THAT WILL HAVE THOSE RELATED TO

02:21:47 HOUSING, DEVELOPMENT, AND SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES WE

02:21:50 HAVE GOING BECAUSE THOSE LEASES ARE GOING TO BE EXPIRED

02:21:53 WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO.

02:21:54 IS THAT CORRECT?

02:21:56 >>SAL RUGGIERO: YOU ARE CORRECT.

02:21:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:21:59 AND I WILL GO AFTER YOU.

02:22:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH RUMORS.

02:22:04 IF WE CAN EVER GET OVER RUMORS, AND HAVE CITIZENS CALL

02:22:09 US.

02:22:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO WONDER IT WAS FLEETWOOD MACK'S

02:22:14 FAVORITE ALBUM.

02:22:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: RUMORS.

02:22:17 WE ARE SITTING HERE TALKING WHEN I SHOULD BE EXPRESSING

02:22:20 MYSELF TO YOU.




02:22:20 WHAT I AM HEARING, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THE STRAIGHT

02:22:22 FACTS THAT CALL ME OR CALL ONE OF US, WHAT THEY ARE

02:22:26 ASKING FOR -- AND I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THEIR POINT

02:22:29 OF VIEW, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE SECURITY FOR THE

02:22:32 WORKERS IN THIS PROPOSED BUILDING.

02:22:37 THESE PROPOSED COMPLEXES.

02:22:39 BUT INSTEAD OF THE CITIZENS LOOKING FROM THE OUTSIDE IN

02:22:43 TO THIS MONOLITHIC BUILDING, THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT'S

02:22:47 MORE INVITING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

02:22:49 OVER AT THE COUNTY CENTER HERE, WE HAVE A COFFEE SHOP

02:22:52 DELI.

02:22:53 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD ALSO BE PUT IN SO THAT NOT

02:22:56 ONLY THE WORKERS BUT MAYBE SOME OF THE FEW RESIDENTS CAN

02:22:59 STOP IN AND GET BREAKFAST OR LUNCH OR A CUP OF COFFEE?

02:23:02 AND I SAW YOU MENTION ALSO A MEDIA CENTER. CAN WE ALSO

02:23:07 INVOLVE SOME SORT OF ROOM WHERE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS

02:23:11 CAN MEET, WHERE PUBLIC CAN MEET, WHERE WE CAN DO CITY

02:23:14 COUNCIL OR THE CITY OF TAMPA, CAN DO MEETINGS THERE ON

02:23:19 SPOT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE OR THE SURROUNDING

02:23:21 NEIGHBORHOOD?

02:23:22 I THINK THESE ARE LITTLE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL

02:23:24 SAY, HEY, WAIT A SECOND, THE CITY WANTS US TO BE A PART

02:23:28 OF THIS.

02:23:29 INSTEAD OF BEING AGAINST THIS MONOLITHIC WALL WHERE THEY

02:23:33 ARE ONLY STARING FROM THE OUTSIDE IN.




02:23:35 >>SAL RUGGIERO: I THINK YOU HIT IT CORRECTLY.

02:23:40 I MEAN, WE HAVE THAT AN IDEA ABOUT HAVING THE COMMUNITY

02:23:43 ROOM.

02:23:44 I SPOKE TO CITIZENS MYSELF THAT WANT, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT

02:23:48 OF ATMOSPHERE, AND WE ARE ON BOARD WESTBOUND THAT.

02:23:51 AND ONE GENTLEMAN I TALKED TO IN PARTICULAR THAT LIVES IN

02:23:54 EAST TAMPA WANTED A PLACE FOR THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS TO

02:23:59 MEET, AND BOYS TO MEN, AND THAT'S ALL POSSIBLE.

02:24:04 AND NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE.

02:24:06 SO THAT'S OUR PROMISE.

02:24:09 JUST LET US GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE

02:24:11 PROUD OF WHAT YOU SEE.

02:24:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M HOPING SO.

02:24:14 I KNOW THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE DONE

02:24:17 AND THE CITY STAFF HAS DONE.

02:24:19 I ENVISION THIS BEING A PLACE FOR ON THE WEEKENDS WHERE

02:24:24 PEOPLE CAN HAVE LITTLE ART SHOWS, THEY CAN HAVE COMMUNITY

02:24:27 MARKETS, OR SOMETHING WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY DRAWING THE

02:24:30 NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

02:24:32 INSTEAD OF EYE I HAVE GOT TO GO PAY A BILL."

02:24:37 >>SAL RUGGIERO: I AGREE WITH YOU.

02:24:38 AND LET ME SAY WHAT YOU TALK TALKED ABOUT A CAFE, AND I

02:24:41 KNOW I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE UNDER THE WORKFORCE

02:24:44 DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS -- WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING LIKE A

02:24:48 COOKING SCHOOL IN THERE, AND THAT WOULD KIND OF MORPH




02:24:51 INTO THIS CAFE STYLE SYSTEM THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

02:24:55 SO IT'S ALL ON THE TABLE.

02:24:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCELLENT.

02:25:00 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

02:25:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

02:25:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND

02:25:04 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GREAT POINTS BY COUNCILMAN CITRO,

02:25:07 GREAT POINTS BY COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.

02:25:09 YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT TO BE A DRAW FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD

02:25:12 AND FOR EVERYBODY AROUND IT.

02:25:13 THE THING IS, WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE THAT

02:25:17 CAME HERE TODAY, I USED TO PAY MY WATER BILL ON NEBRASKA

02:25:19 AVENUE, RIGHT?

02:25:20 SO THAT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.

02:25:22 OR I HAVE TO PAY MY BUSINESS TAX ON NEBRASKA AVENUE.

02:25:25 THAT'S NOT THERE.

02:25:26 WHERE DO I GO?

02:25:27 I GO TO LEMON STREET.

02:25:29 AND HIDDEN BEHIND THE INTERSTATE ACROSS FROM WESTSHORE

02:25:34 MALL THAT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED SOON AND IT'S VERY

02:25:37 CONFUSING.

02:25:38 NOT THAT THERE'S NO PARKING AND IT'S HARD TO GET TO.

02:25:40 BUT THE OPERATING COSTS.

02:25:42 THE FACT THAT WE CANNOT RENEW THAT LEASE THAT THAT

02:25:44 BUILDING IS SCHEDULED FOR DEMOLITION BECAUSE OF THE




02:25:47 WIDENING OF THE UNIT STATE OR WHATEVER FDOT HAS PLANNED,

02:25:50 WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO?

02:25:52 WE ARE GOING TO KEEP SPENDING MONEY.

02:25:53 WE ARE GOING TO GIVE MONEY TO SOMEBODY ELSE, ANOTHER

02:25:55 LANDLORD.

02:25:56 WITH THE BUILDING ON NORTH BOULEVARD, VERY LIMITED

02:25:58 PARKING.

02:25:59 YOU ACCOMMODATE THE EMPLOYEES AND YOU HAVE BARELY ANY

02:26:02 SPACES FOR RESIDENTS, PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO COME IN, AND WE

02:26:05 SPENT OVER $5 MILLION IF THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME SINCE

02:26:09 1993.

02:26:09 WE ARE GIVING MONEY AWAY, WHEREAS EVERYTHING THAT HAS

02:26:13 BEEN PRESENTED, EVERYTHING YOU TALKED ABOUT, THAT ALL THE

02:26:16 SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT, A CITY, A TRUE CITY CENTER.

02:26:20 IT HEY NOT BE CITY HALL BUT SERVICES ARE ALL WITHIN THE

02:26:23 SAME AREA.

02:26:24 COUNCILMAN CITRO, COUNCILMAN GUDES, AND I KNOW THE OTHER

02:26:27 COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BRING THINGS UP.

02:26:29 BUT A TRUE COMMUNITY SPACE WHERE THERE IS AN AUDITORIUM

02:26:31 FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, PEOPLE TO GO

02:26:34 TO, THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP, WHATEVER, COMP BAY, A REAL

02:26:41 DESTINATION.

02:26:42 IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT A LOT WAS MADE ABOUT THE POLICE

02:26:44 DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT.

02:26:46 THIS IS A ONE-STOP-SHOP FOR SO MANY CITY SERVICES THAT




02:26:49 MAKE IT LESS CONFUSING.

02:26:51 LIKE I SAID, PEOPLE GO, WHERE ON LEMON STREET?

02:26:55 I AM NOT USED TO THIS.

02:26:56 I AM NOT GOOD ON COMPUTERS.

02:26:57 I WANT TO GO IN PERSON.

02:26:58 BUT I THINK THIS IS A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

02:27:01 AND IT'S LAND THAT WE OWN, CORRECT?

02:27:05 >>SAL RUGGIERO: YES, SIR.

02:27:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE MAY BE A LAND SWAP -- NOT A

02:27:10 LAND SWAP BUT RELOCATING SERVICES ON SPRUCE.

02:27:13 THERE'S A LOT OF REAL ESTATE OVER THERE.

02:27:14 WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME TO BE FRUITION BECAUSE

02:27:18 OF THIS.

02:27:19 AND I'LL STOP THERE.

02:27:22 I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

02:27:23 COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAVE THEIR HANDS

02:27:26 UP.

02:27:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

02:27:29 AND, YOU KNOW, TO ME ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I AM GOING TO

02:27:33 VOTE YES TODAY IS -- AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD

02:27:37 PROJECT -- IS BECAUSE THIS IS AN EFFORT THAT SEEKS TO

02:27:41 MOVE GOVERNMENT CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE.

02:27:45 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN TEMPLE

02:27:48 TERRACE.

02:27:49 OBVIOUSLY TEMPLE TERRACE, AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF




02:27:52 TAMPA, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NORTH TAMPA, AND MAYBE IN

02:27:56 SULPHUR SPRINGS, NEW TAMPA, DIFFERENT PARTS.

02:27:59 YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT DOWNTOWN GOING ALL THE WAY

02:28:02 DOWNTOWN AND THEY GO, OH, THAT'S DOWNTOWN, I HAVE GOT TO

02:28:05 PAY FOR PARKING, I HAVE GOT TO DO THIS, PUT UP WITH THE

02:28:07 TRAFFIC, ALL THE BIG BUILDINGS, THIS AND THAT.

02:28:10 YOU PUT A BASIC CITY CENTER WITH SO MANY CRITICAL CORE

02:28:16 MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES, IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY,

02:28:20 THAT CREATES ACCESSIBILITY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

02:28:24 SHOULD ALL SUPPORT FOR ALL GOVERNMENT SERVICES, FOR ALL

02:28:27 GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

02:28:28 AND COUNCILMAN CITRO, I AM SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

02:28:32 I SALUTE YOU FOR THAT.

02:28:34 MEETING SPACE, INCLUDING POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT MAYBE

02:28:36 EVEN HOLDING COMMUNITY MEETINGS THERE, COUNCIL MEETINGS

02:28:41 THERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, JUST TO BRING GOVERNMENT

02:28:44 AGAIN CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE.

02:28:49 SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT A GREAT DEAL.

02:28:51 YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT MISINFORMATION,

02:28:53 WHETHER IT'S INTENTIONAL, WHETHER IT'S INADVERTENT.

02:28:57 I THINK A LOT OF IT IS INADVERTENT.

02:29:00 BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU REMEDY THAT THROUGH COMMUNITY

02:29:05 ENGAGEMENT AND WHATNOT.

02:29:06 I THINK WHEN THIS WAS ROLLED OUT THERE WAS A LOT OF

02:29:09 MISINFORMATION THAT CAME OUT, AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT




02:29:12 CAN BE REMEDIED THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHICH WE

02:29:15 KNOW IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

02:29:17 AND WHATNOT.

02:29:18 AND WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE TWO WEEKS WHEN A LOT OF COUNCIL

02:29:22 MEMBERS WENT, WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW?

02:29:26 LET'S GO FORWARD, BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PROJECT.

02:29:29 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO REALLY BENEFIT ALL THE

02:29:32 CITY OF TAMPA, AND BRING GOVERNMENT SERVICES CLOSER TO

02:29:37 THE PEOPLE.

02:29:38 THE IDEA THAT THIS IS SOMETHING TO BECOME DEFUNDING THE

02:29:47 POLICE.

02:29:47 I DO NOT BELIEVE AT THIS TIME THAT THAT'S SOMETHING

02:29:49 THAT'S REALLY ADJUVANT TO THIS, TO THIS CENTER.

02:29:52 THE REAL ISSUE IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ENGAGEMENT

02:29:57 SAFETY, SOME FOLKS FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS TALKED ABOUT

02:30:00 TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT NEED TO BE DONE, ET CETERA.

02:30:03 THAT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE WANT TO

02:30:05 TALK ABOUT.

02:30:06 BUT THE CENTRAL IDEA IS BRINGING GOVERNMENT CLOSER TO THE

02:30:08 PEOPLE.

02:30:08 THAT'S WHAT THIS A SPIRES TO DO.

02:30:11 I THINK WOO HE WE SHOULD ALL SUPPORT THAT.

02:30:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

02:30:16 AND I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T SEE YOU THROUGH THE FOUR LEVELS

02:30:19 OF FLEXION I GLASS.




02:30:21 GO AHEAD, SIR.

02:30:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT

02:30:26 JOB.

02:30:27 JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

02:30:28 I THINK WE ARE VERY HONORED TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT

02:30:31 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS PRESIDENTS WITH US THIS

02:30:34 MORNING, CAROL AND TIM, AND I THINK HER FIRST NAME IS

02:30:38 ALTHEA WYNN, JOIN US, AND I THINK THE CARROLLWOOD

02:30:47 ASSOCIATION IS DIRECTLY WHERE THIS IS, AND THEN TIM AND

02:30:52 ALTHEA WERE NEARBY.

02:30:54 SOME OF THE NOTES THAT I TOOK FROM THEM, SEEMS TO REPEAT

02:30:58 TRAFFIC.

02:30:59 I HAVE GOT TRAFFIC WRITTEN DOWN SEVERAL TIMES OVER AGAIN.

02:31:04 SO IT VIK POPPED UP ON OUR SCREEN A WHILE AGO AND I WANT

02:31:10 TO SAY THIS TO VIK AND SAL AND MR. BENNETT, THAT WE NEED

02:31:15 TO TREAT THIS PROJECT JUST LIKE IT WAS A PRIVATE

02:31:18 DEVELOPMENT.

02:31:20 WE NEED IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, WE NEED TO JUST PUT IT

02:31:24 THROUGH THE PACES, YOU KNOW, BE AS DEMANDING ON OURSELVES

02:31:29 OR MAYBE EVEN MORE DEMANDING ON OURSELVES TO ADDRESS, YOU

02:31:34 KNOW, ANY OF THE ADJACENT AND NEARBY TRAFFIC, IMPACTS OF

02:31:39 THIS PROJECT.

02:31:41 AND I KNOW YOU WILL, SAL.

02:31:44 AND VIK.

02:31:45 I JUST WANT TO SAY IT ON THE RECORD THAT THAT'S THE




02:31:48 EXPECTATION, THAT THOSE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AS

02:31:53 WELL AS THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

02:31:57 I LOVE SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN MARCHED OUT,

02:32:01 COMMUNITY ROOM, USE OF THE RAIL, MAYBE A STOP ON SOME

02:32:08 FUTURE RAIL, PUBLIC COFFEE SHOP/RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, A

02:32:13 PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY CAN REALLY ENGAGE AND INTERACTED

02:32:17 BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND CITY GOVERNMENT.

02:32:20 I THINK THAT'S ALL FANTASTIC.

02:32:24 THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IN REGARD TO

02:32:26 ENGAGEMENT IS ENGAGEMENT WITH COUNCIL.

02:32:34 SO EVERYBODY WHO MADE PRESENTATIONS, ADRI WYNN ALWAYS HAS

02:32:43 A GREAT JOB AND THE REST OF THOSE FANTASTIC WOMEN WHO

02:32:48 PRECEDED YOU, SAL, EVERYBODY, KEEP THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH

02:32:51 COUNCIL COMING ON A VERY, VERY REGULAR BASIS.

02:32:55 DON'T LET THIS BE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WHERE THE

02:33:00 DESIGNER GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND MEETS WITH THE

02:33:03 MAYOR AND MEETS WITH STAFF AND GETS IT ALL DONE AND THEN

02:33:06 BRINGS IT TO US ALL WRAPPED UP.

02:33:10 BRING IT TO US JUST LIKE WE ARE AT PART OF THE COMMUNITY

02:33:12 ENGAGEMENT, AND WE WILL GIVE YOU WORKSHOP TIME, I

02:33:15 BELIEVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU BE FINE WITH THAT, WE

02:33:18 WILL GIVE YOU WORKSHOP TIME TO COME OVER WITH US AND HASH

02:33:21 OUT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS, OR ASK US QUESTIONS LIKE MR.

02:33:26 CITRO, HERE IS THE COMMUNITY ROOM THAT WE ARE THINKING

02:33:31 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK?




02:33:32 TREAT US JUST LIKE YOU WOULD JUST ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD

02:33:40 COMPONENT IN TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT, AND I KNOW WE WILL

02:33:41 CONTINUE TO BE HAPPY ON THIS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

02:33:44 AS I PROMISED MR. BENNETT TWO WEEKS AGO, WE'LL CONTINUE

02:33:47 TO GIVE HIM UNANIMOUS VOTES ON THIS THING AS I THINK WE

02:33:51 ARE ABOUT TO TODAY.

02:33:53 SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

02:33:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:33:55 AND ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND WORKING TOGETHER,

02:33:58 THE ADMINISTRATION WITH COUNCIL ON THIS DESIGN AND THE

02:34:01 PLANS MOVING FORWARD, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID, WE

02:34:04 ARE GOING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LONG LASTING,

02:34:08 MULTI-GENERATIONAL, AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD

02:34:10 OF, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE PROUD OF, AND THAT PEOPLE IN

02:34:13 THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL BE PROUD THAT WE HAVE INVESTED

02:34:16 THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SOMETHING THAT

02:34:19 BENEFITS EVERYONE.

02:34:21 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:34:22 HAVING SAID THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, CAN I GET

02:34:24 A MOTION TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION FOR 61?

02:34:28 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:34:31 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

02:34:33 ROLL CALL VOTE.

02:34:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM MAKING SURE I AM CLEAR THAT THIS

02:34:45 IS NOT REGARDING THE POLICE STATION THIS TIME.




02:34:47 IT'S STRICTLY THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE CENTER, CUSTOMER

02:34:52 SERVICE CENTER.

02:34:54 SO I WILL VOTE YES ON IT.

02:34:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST FOR CLARITY, THIS HAS NOTHING

02:34:58 TO DO REQUEST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

02:34:59 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RELOCATION IS JUST PLANNING AND ALL

02:35:03 THAT, CORRECT?

02:35:06 >>SAL RUGGIERO: CORRECT.

02:35:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.

02:35:08 I THINK BEFORE WE SAY CORRECT -- AND SAL, I TRUST YOUR

02:35:12 OPINION SORT OF, BUT MY EXPERIENCE ON THESE TAPES OF

02:35:16 PLANNERS -- AND I HOPE THAT WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF

02:35:20 MONEY ON THE PLANNERS -- ISN'T GOING TO BE PLANNING AT

02:35:26 LEAST CONCEPTUALLY THAT ENTIRE 11, 12 ACRES.

02:35:31 THAT INCLUDES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

02:35:32 AND WE MIGHT NOT BE DESIGNING A BUILDING PER SE WITH PART

02:35:39 OF THAT MONEY, BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT BELIEVE THAT WHEN

02:35:43 THEY GO TO LAY OUT WHERE THE ENTRANCES ARE GOING TO BE

02:35:48 AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A

02:35:50 WHOLE DIFFERENT SECURITY, NOW, ENTRANCES AND EXISTS AND

02:35:54 TRAFFIC FLOW AND EVERYTHING.

02:35:55 I HAVE GOT A FEELING UP FRONT THEY ARE GOING TO BE

02:35:57 LOOKING AT THAT, TOO.

02:35:58 SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT

02:36:05 MAYBE A LITTLE PART OF THE THIS IS GOING TO BE SORT OF IN




02:36:07 THE BUG PICTURE PLANNING OF THOSE ENTIRE 11, 12 ACRES.

02:36:12 THAT INCLUDES THE LONG-TERM POTENTIAL MOVE OF THE POLICE

02:36:14 DEPARTMENT.

02:36:16 I AM JUST POTENTIALLY PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.

02:36:18 I DON'T KNOW.

02:36:19 >>SAL RUGGIERO: I HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY SAY NO ON THAT,

02:36:22 SIR, BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE NOT ACQUIRED THE

02:36:26 PROPERTY TO DO A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

02:36:28 AND THEN SECONDLY, ONCE WE DO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY THAT

02:36:33 HAS TO GO OUT FOR RFQ SO IT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE ISSUE.

02:36:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THERE'S A SEPARATE PARCEL?

02:36:39 >>SAL RUGGIERO: YES.

02:36:40 YES, SIR.

02:36:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

02:36:41 I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PARCEL.

02:36:44 >>SAL RUGGIERO: NO, SIR.

02:36:46 IN THE BRIEFINGS, IT'S TWO SEPARATE PARCELS.

02:36:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.

02:36:50 THEN I STAND CORRECTED.

02:36:51 >>SAL RUGGIERO: ALL RIGHT.

02:36:52 THANK YOU.

02:36:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE POLICE -- PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE

02:37:01 IS A DIFFERENT PARCEL, DIFFERENT VOTE, DIFFERENT DAY,

02:37:03 DIFFERENT CONVERSATION -- HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS?

02:37:06 >>SAL RUGGIERO: CORRECT.




02:37:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.

02:37:09 ON RECORD.

02:37:10 ALL RIGHT.

02:37:10 YES, SIR.

02:37:11 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU.

02:37:12 AND, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WAS

02:37:16 RELATIVELY -- THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT THIS IS GOING TO

02:37:19 REQUIRE AS PART OF THE A LARGER PROJECT A LOT OF

02:37:22 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS WHICH I

02:37:25 KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO DO, AND WE CAN BE

02:37:27 PART OF THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK MEETING WITH

02:37:31 DIFFERENT COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO TALK ABOUT THIS LARGE

02:37:36 PROJECT AND THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF IT.

02:37:39 SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAID COMMUNITY

02:37:43 INVOLVEMENT, WHICH THIS IS PART OF IT.

02:37:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS, WE BRING IT

02:37:49 ALL OUT IN THE OPEN.

02:37:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, ARE YOU ON THE LINE,

02:37:52 BY ANY CHANCE?

02:37:53 >>JOHN BENNETT: YES, SIR.

02:37:56 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.

02:37:58 I THINK THE DETAILS OF THE TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS HAVE

02:38:00 BEEN COVERED WELL, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS.

02:38:02 I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AND SAY THAT THE

02:38:04 ADMINISTRATION, BY DISCUSSING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS




02:38:08 JUST TRYING TO BE EXTREMELY TRANSPARENT ON THE VISION

02:38:11 ASPECT OF THIS BY MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THE

02:38:15 SCOPE OF THIS INITIAL ASK.

02:38:17 AND WE HAVE TALKED TO COUNCIL.

02:38:19 WE KNOW THERE IS A COMPRESSED DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM,

02:38:24 AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GRANTED A CONTINUANCE, WHICH

02:38:28 I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S COMMENTS ON THE FACT

02:38:31 THAT WE BROUGHT THE ANSWERS AND THE COMMITMENT TO PUTTING

02:38:35 THIS FORWARD.

02:38:36 BUT WE JUST WANT TO BE LONG RANGE TRANSPARENT ON THE

02:38:40 VISION, AND MR. RUGGIERO CAN BRING IN THE FINANCIAL

02:38:43 ASPECTS ON THE GLOBAL VIEW.

02:38:45 BUT I APPRECIATE MR. RUGGIERO NARROWING IT DOWN.

02:38:52 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND WORK TOGETHER

02:38:55 BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL.

02:38:57 SO THERE WASN'T A SECONDARY DISCUSSION THAT JUST CAME UP,

02:39:01 WHENEVER IT DID IN THE CONTINUUM OF THIS PROJECT, AND ALL

02:39:05 OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS SOME ALARM TO IT.

02:39:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

02:39:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

02:39:13 THE VOTE WAS TAKEN?

02:39:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I VOTE YES ON THE PROJECT.

02:39:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 61 AND 62?

02:39:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO, THAT'S PART 2 OF THIS.

02:39:26 IT'S JUST PART 1.




02:39:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, YES.

02:39:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

02:39:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

02:39:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

02:39:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

02:39:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

02:39:42 BEING ABSENT.

02:39:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW FOR PART 2, THIS IS THE 6.2

02:39:47 MILLION.

02:39:49 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?

02:39:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

02:39:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

02:39:55 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:39:56 THIS IS PART 2.

02:39:57 ROLL CALL.

02:39:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

02:40:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

02:40:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

02:40:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

02:40:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

02:40:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

02:40:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

02:40:10 BEING ABSENT.

02:40:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 63.

02:40:20 ITEM 63 IS $29.1 MILLION.




02:40:24 WHO IS HERE FOR THAT?

02:40:26 BRAD BAIRD HAD A REPORT.

02:40:28 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?

02:40:29 THIS IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN, MASTER PLAN

02:40:33 IMPROVEMENT.

02:40:33 >>BRAD BAIRD: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

02:40:40 NO, I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.

02:40:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

02:40:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. BAIRD, BRAG ON YOURSELF A LITTLE

02:40:49 BIT.

02:40:50 TELL US HOW GREAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS FOR BBE AND FOR

02:40:55 WMBE OVERALL.

02:40:57 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.

02:40:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, YOU TELL US.

02:41:05 >>BRAD BAIRD: OH.

02:41:07 YES, THE BREAKDOWN OF WMBE IS 10% FOR BBE AT

02:41:17 $2.9 MILLION, 2.4% FOR HBE, AT ALMOST 700,000, AND THEN

02:41:29 3% WBEs AT ALMOST $900,000.

02:41:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO THANK STAFF.

02:41:38 I KNOW A LOT OF HARD WORK GOES INTO THAT.

02:41:41 I WANT TO THANK OUR PARTNERS WHO ARE HELPING US REBUILD

02:41:47 WASTEWATER PLANNED PLANT AND WORKING HARD TO GET THOSE

02:41:50 NUMBERS UP WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

02:41:53 NOW MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BBE AND WMBE.

02:41:57 SO THAT'S FANTASTIC.




02:41:59 THANK YOU, BRAD, YOU AND YOUR STAFF, AND WITH THAT I WILL

02:42:02 BE GLAD TO MOVE THE ITEM.

02:42:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, DO YOU HAVE ANY

02:42:05 QUESTIONS?

02:42:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO THANK MR. BAIRD AND HIS TEAM

02:42:08 AND THE OFFICE FOR TRYING TO ACHIEVE GOALS WE HAVE BEEN

02:42:11 ASKING FOR.

02:42:12 I THINK WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE JUST A LITTLE

02:42:15 BIT. I WANT TO KEEP ON MOVING IT.

02:42:17 AND AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE BEEN DOING

02:42:19 AGAIN ON THIS PROJECT.

02:42:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS

02:42:22 RESOLUTION?

02:42:24 WAIT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT, SIR?

02:42:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOESN'T MATTER.

02:42:29 I WILL SECOND IT.

02:42:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:42:32 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

02:42:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.

02:42:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

02:42:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

02:42:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

02:42:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

02:42:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

02:42:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING




02:42:51 ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

02:42:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS $34.6 MILLION.

02:42:58 MR. BAIRD, CAN YOU GIVE US A BREAK DOWN ON THAT JUST AS

02:43:01 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER REQUESTED FOR THE PREVIOUS ONE, SO

02:43:04 WE KNOW?

02:43:05 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, SURE.

02:43:07 I WOULD LIKE TO PREFACE THIS WITH -- TO BUILD ON WHAT

02:43:14 COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID.

02:43:17 IF YOU RECALL, WE COMMITTED IN THESE DESIGN BUILD

02:43:21 EFFORTS, WE WOULD HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH

02:43:25 THE DESIGN BUILD TEAMS TO IMPROVE THE PARTICIPATION.

02:43:31 SO YOU ARE SEEING THAT HERE IN THESE TWO TMPs OR

02:43:35 INITIAL GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICES FOR THE WASTE TREATMENT

02:43:39 PLANT WATER PROJECTS.

02:43:41 SO THAT'S A RESULT OF HAVING FLEXIBILITY.

02:43:52 SO THE BREAK DOWN AT THE WATER PLANT IS BBE WE HAVE FOUR

02:43:58 FIRMS A TOTAL OF ALMOST $3.5 MILLION OF PARTICIPATION

02:44:03 TOTALING 10%.

02:44:05 FOR HBEs, FIVE FIRMS THAT AMOUNT TO $422,000.

02:44:17 AND THEN WBEs, ONE FIRM AT $17,000, SLBEs, SMALL

02:44:25 LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, FOUR FIRMS AT 1.3 ALMOST

02:44:32 MILLION DOLLARS.

02:44:32 SO THAT TOTALS UP TO ALMOST 15% PARTICIPATION, 10% OF

02:44:37 WHICH IS FOR FOUR BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, PRETTY

02:44:45 IMPRESSIVE.




02:44:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S VERY GOOD.

02:44:49 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION?

02:44:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.

02:44:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

02:44:55 ROLL CALL VOTE.

02:44:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

02:45:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

02:45:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

02:45:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

02:45:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

02:45:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITRO

02:45:13 ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

02:45:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS PART 2, A TRANSFER AND

02:45:19 REALLOCATION OF ALMOST $20 MILLION.

02:45:21 MR. BAIRD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS?

02:45:24 THIS IS JUST TRANSFER TO THE EXISTING, CORRECT?

02:45:26 >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

02:45:29 AND NOTHING TO ADD TO MY MEMO ON THIS.

02:45:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A MEMO TO MOVE THE

02:45:33 RESOLUTION?

02:45:34 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

02:45:36 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

02:45:38 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

02:45:39 ROLL CALL VOTE.

02:45:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.




02:45:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

02:45:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

02:45:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

02:45:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

02:45:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITRO BEING

02:45:54 ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

02:45:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

02:46:04 THIS IS COUNCILMAN CITRO'S ITEM.

02:46:06 LET'S HOLD OFF UNTIL HE COMES BACK.

02:46:10 THERE HE IS.

02:46:16 COUNCILMAN CITRO, I KNOW THIS IS YOUR ITEM, AND YOU HAD A

02:46:19 MEMO?

02:46:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD.

02:46:30 FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO SAY THAT MY FELLOW COUNCILMAN,

02:46:36 COUNCILMAN GUDES, AND MY BROTHER, KNOW OF A STORY THAT WE

02:46:41 WERE TAUGHT ABOUT THREE MEN WHO WERE IN SEARCH OF THREE

02:46:46 OTHERS FOR A CRIME THEY HAD COMMITTED, AND HOW THESE

02:46:53 THREE PEOPLE, THESE THREE MEN, HAD TO REFLECT MANY TIMES

02:46:59 ON THE TASK THAT THEY WERE GIVEN.

02:47:03 I REFLECTED UPON THIS MANY, MANY TIMES, AND IF YOU WILL

02:47:07 PLEASE GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EQUATE THIS, SINCE WE ARE A

02:47:13 SUPER BOWL CITY, TO PLAY FOOTBALL.

02:47:20 WITH THIS RESOLUTION, IF WE WERE PLAYING FOOTBALL, OUR

02:47:27 OPPONENT IS NOT BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS

02:47:31 RESOLUTION, BUT BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATION WITH




02:47:39 PREEMPTION.

02:47:41 YOU HEARD ME RANT MANY TIMES ABOUT PREEMPTION, AND THE

02:47:47 PREEMPTION THAT CONTRADICTS THE CITY OF TAMPA'S HOME

02:47:51 RULE, THE ABILITY TO GOVERN OURSELVES.

02:47:55 THERE ARE THOSE WHO WOULD SAY THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT

02:47:57 HAVE THE POWER TO MOVE STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND STATE

02:48:02 SENATORS TO SUBMITTING THESE PREEMPTION BILLS, BUT I TEND

02:48:06 TO DISAGREE.

02:48:09 AS SOON AS I PUT THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD, AND AS WELL AS

02:48:14 WHEN MY FELLOW COLLEAGUE LUIS VIERA MOTIONED FOR AN

02:48:20 ORDINANCE IN APPRENTICESHIP, NO SOONER CAN BE D WE VOTE

02:48:25 ON IT THAN A PRESUMPTION BILL WAS SUBMITTED.

02:48:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 13 MINUTES.

02:48:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO WE MAY NOT HAVE THE POWER BUT WE SURE

02:48:35 AS HELL, EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, HAVE THE PERSUASION.

02:48:41 AND A HOME RULE IS BEING AFFECTED IN MANY, MANY WAYS, NOT

02:48:44 ONLY WITH OUR TREE ORDINANCE, SHORT-TERM RENTAL

02:48:50 ORDINANCE, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.

02:48:54 WHERE AM I GOING WITH THIS, MY FRIENDS?

02:49:07 WE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY WILL NOT BE FACED WITH A

02:49:11 THREE AND OUT.

02:49:12 I DO NOT WANT TO THROW ANOTHER HAIL MARY IN THE FORM OF A

02:49:17 RESOLUTION THAT COULD BE INTERCEPTED BY STATE

02:49:20 LEGISLATORS.

02:49:25 DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM COUNCILMAN --




02:49:31 >>> MR. MIRANDA, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.

02:49:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF HE'S FINISHED SPEAKING, BUT WE CAN

02:49:36 DO SOMETHING LEGALLY NOT HALF-HEARTEDLY.

02:49:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GIVE ME A FEW SECOND, MR. MIRANDA.

02:49:42 WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.

02:49:46 WITH OUR ADMINISTRATION, QUARTERBACK, OUR RUNNING BACK

02:49:50 WHO IS WHIT REMER, WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT RESILIENCY

02:50:02 COMMITTEE, THAT I SAY WE WAIT UNTIL HALF TIME, IN BETWEEN

02:50:10 THE SESSIONS THAT IS ABOUT READY TO END AND THE NEXT ONE

02:50:14 COMING UP, AND GIVE IT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REWRITE THIS

02:50:21 RESOLUTION SO THAT IT WILL DO AN END AROUND FROM ANY

02:50:31 PREEMPTION THAT THE LEGISLATION IS PUTTING FORWARD.

02:50:37 WE CAN ACHIEVE THE SCORE, THE TOUCHDOWN OF MAKING THE

02:50:40 CITY OF TAMPA A CLEAN 100% -- 100% RESILIENT CITY, AND WE

02:50:48 CAN DO IT IN SUCH A WAY, GENTLEMEN, WE CONTROL THE

02:50:51 BUDGET.

02:50:55 IF WE CAN SCORE FIRST DOWNS, THAT WOULD BE LIKE DIRECT

02:50:59 THE CITY.

02:51:00 THAT'S THE FIRST DOWN.

02:51:01 SOLAR.

02:51:02 PANELS.

02:51:04 ON ALL GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS.

02:51:05 THAT'S A FIRST DOWN.

02:51:08 ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET.

02:51:10 THAT'S A FIRST DOWN.




02:51:10 AND WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT GOAL BEFORE 2045 BY TAKING THESE

02:51:20 FIRST-DOWN INCREMENTS.

02:51:25 GENTLEMEN, IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS RESOLUTION

02:51:36 THAT WAS WRITTEN BY MY OFFICE WITH THE HELP OF SO MANY

02:51:40 OTHER PEOPLE WAS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE.

02:51:44 THE MISCONCEPTION THAT THE PUBLIC HAD AS WELL AS

02:51:46 STAKEHOLDERS IS THAT WE WANTED TO DO AWAY WITH ALL GAS

02:51:49 STATIONS.

02:51:52 WE WANTED TO STOP PLANES FROM FLYING, WE WANTED TO STOP

02:51:55 SHIPS FROM SAILING, WE WANTED TO RUIN EVERY INDUSTRY THAT

02:52:00 HAS A PETROLEUM AND FOSSIL FUEL WHICH IS THE FURTHEST

02:52:05 THING FROM THE TRUTH.

02:52:06 THIS RESILIENCY, THIS RESOLUTION, AS A MATTER OF FACT

02:52:12 WILL CREATE JOBS.

02:52:13 IT WILL CREATE CAREERS.

02:52:19 REFLECTING ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED, MY MOTION WOULD BE TO

02:52:26 LET'S CONTINUE THIS RESOLUTION UNTIL JULY 15th, AT

02:52:33 WHICH POINT BEFOREHAND, I WILL SUBMIT A DRAFT OF A

02:52:36 REWRITTEN RESOLUTION WHERE WE HOPEFULLY WILL NOT HAVE TO

02:52:41 DEAL WITH PREEMPTION FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

02:52:43 THANK YOU.

02:52:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT.

02:52:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE

02:52:50 OTHER COUNCILMEN.

02:52:51 MY MOTION STILL WILL STAND.




02:52:53 AND AFTER THE VOTE IS TAKEN YOU HAVE A FEW CLOSING WORDS.

02:52:55 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.

02:52:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

02:52:58 DINGFELDER.

02:52:59 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HILLSBOROUGH HIS HAND UP AND THEN WE

02:53:01 WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

02:53:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AS THE SECONDER TO THE ORIGINAL

02:53:06 MOTION, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE MR. CITRO.

02:53:09 HOWEVER, JULY IS A HARD MONTH BECAUSE WE DON'T COME BACK

02:53:15 AND WE ONLY HAVE TWO WEEKS IN JULY, AND THEN AUGUST WILL

02:53:19 BE KIND OF FULL.

02:53:20 SO EITHER THE END OF AUGUST OR END OF JUNE.

02:53:25 I AGREE WITH WHAT HE'S SAYING.

02:53:27 HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE BEGINNING.

02:53:33 THIS IS THE BEGINNING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN

02:53:36 LIKELY NO END, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, REVOLUTION AND

02:53:40 INVENTIONS ARE COMING OUT EVERY DAY, NOT ONLY IN SOLAR,

02:53:46 BUT IN ELECTRIC BATTERIES, THE SOLID STATE BATTERIES,

02:53:53 COMING UP WITH A NEW BATTERY.

02:53:54 AS THESE THINGS ARE COMING OUT IN COMPETITION, AND THEY

02:53:59 CAN BE PUT ON THE DRAWING BOARD, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT US

02:54:03 AGAINST FOSSIL FUEL, IT'S ABOUT FOSSIL FUEL EATING UP THE

02:54:09 ENVIRONMENT.

02:54:11 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN CALIFORNIA, AND YOU

02:54:13 LOOK JUST LAST NIGHT IN TEXAS AND ARIZONA -- I MEAN,




02:54:18 TEXAS AND MISSISSIPPI AND ALABAMA AND GEORGIA, EVEN

02:54:24 FURTHER NORTH, IT'S BEEN DEVASTATING.

02:54:27 WHAT ABOUT THE HURRICANES?

02:54:29 MORE AND MORE AND STRONGER.

02:54:35 NOT ONE OR TWO BUT MANY IN CLUSTERS THAT FORM GIGANTIC

02:54:40 TORNADOES.

02:54:42 WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING TO OURSELVES IN

02:54:47 THIS WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN.

02:54:48 WE ARE DESTROYING WHERE WE LIVE.

02:54:51 LIKE IT OR NOT.

02:54:53 REALIZE IT OR NOT.

02:54:55 THE FACT ARE IN.

02:54:56 BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO MR. CITRO, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS,

02:55:00 ALSO, THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO INSTEAD OF -- WE JUST BOUGHT

02:55:09 SIX VEHICLES TODAY.

02:55:09 THAT'S ELECTRIC.

02:55:12 WE ARE TOLD WE HAVE TEN.

02:55:14 WE OUGHT TO SET A GOAL, BECAUSE WHAT I SEE COMING, IN

02:55:17 2027, IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE

02:55:21 LAST BITE AT THE LAST AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE CIP TAX,

02:55:25 AND THEN THAT ENDS IN 2027.

02:55:27 IT'S GONE.

02:55:29 BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO DO IS ASK THE

02:55:31 ADMINISTRATION WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE BETWEEN NOW AND 2027,

02:55:39 VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.




02:55:41 SO WE HAVE A GOAL THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE

02:55:44 CAN BUY TO MAKE IT SELF-SUFFICIENT IN THE ELECTRICAL AREA

02:55:49 SO THAT WE HAVE -- THAT THE NORTHERN CITIES MAY HAVE, AND

02:55:56 I AGREE WITH THAT.

02:55:57 BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AN UNDERSTANDING WITH

02:56:00 THE ADMINISTRATION THAT BY 2025, 2026, 2024, 2023, WE ARE

02:56:09 GOING TO CONTINUE AT WHAT RATE DO WE NEITHER MEET THAT

02:56:12 GOAL?

02:56:12 SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL OUGHT TO ASK THE

02:56:15 ADMINISTRATION FOR A REPORT IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS BEFORE

02:56:20 MR. CITRO MOTIONS FOR JULY, TO GIVE US THE NEED AND THE

02:56:25 NECESSITY OF THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES THAT THEY NEED, OR

02:56:28 WE COULD GO ON AND START CARRYING A GOAL IN MIND TO HAVE

02:56:33 A CERTAIN PERCENT BY THAT CERTAIN TIME SO THAT WE CAN

02:56:37 TELL THE WORLD THAT TAMPA, ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING

02:56:40 CITIES IN AMERICA, MEANS IT FOR REAL.

02:56:43 WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE

02:56:48 NEEDS AND THE NECESSITIES ARE SO WE CAN ESTABLISH THAT

02:56:50 GOAL.

02:56:51 AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. CITRO ADD TO HIS

02:56:56 MOTION, IF I MAY.

02:56:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, COUNCILMAN

02:57:03 MIRANDA.

02:57:03 YOU ARE A BRILLIANT MAN.

02:57:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR.




02:57:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELL, I WOULD GO THAT FAR.

02:57:14 I WOULD SAY WHAT W THE RESILIENCY COMMITTEE THAT THE

02:57:18 MAYOR SET UP WITH WHIT REMER, WE PROBABLY CAN SET THOSE

02:57:23 GOALS, AND SET THAT TIMELINE.

02:57:25 BUT I AGREE WITH YOU 100% THAT YOU WANT ME TO PUT THAT IN

02:57:30 MY MOTION?

02:57:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ASK, YES, SIR.

02:57:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.

02:57:34 AND I WILL INCLUDE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S RECOMMENDATION IN

02:57:38 MY GOALS.

02:57:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I WILL PUT THAT IN WRITING TO

02:57:44 MARY AND GIVE IT TO THE CLERK.

02:57:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT AGREEABLE WITH THE SECONDER?

02:57:48 >> YES, SIR.

02:57:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE

02:57:51 ANYTHING, SIR?

02:57:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

02:57:53 AND I AM GLAD THAT COUNCILMAN CITRO MENTIONED THE MAYOR'S

02:57:58 RESILIENCY COMMITTEE WHICH I UNDERSTAND MET A FEW TIMES,

02:58:00 AND ACTUALLY IS MEETING TOMORROW, AND CONTINUING TO MEET.

02:58:06 IS MR. REMER ON THE LINE?

02:58:08 BECAUSE I AM CURIOUS --

02:58:11 >>> WE HAVE CHIEF BENNETT ON THE LINE.

02:58:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EITHER CHIEF BENNETT OR WHIT, IF YOU

02:58:16 ARE ON THE LINE, WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS THE SPECIFIC




02:58:19 TIMETABLE THAT THE RESILIENCY COMMITTEE IS SCHEDULED TO

02:58:23 MEET, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT TO SEE

02:58:29 THE REPORT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT COMMITTEE

02:58:32 BASED ON THE TIMETABLE YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW?

02:58:34 >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF OF STAFF.

02:58:42 FIRST, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, LET'S MAKE SURE MR. REMER

02:58:44 IS NOT ON THE LINE.

02:58:46 HE MAY VERY WELL BE.

02:58:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. REMER?

02:58:52 >>JOHN BENNETT: HEARING NOTHING, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE

02:58:56 STRUCTURED MEETING AGENDA THAT MR. REMER HUT TOGETHER

02:58:58 WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THOSE DATES EXTEND OUT A

02:59:02 LITTLE BIT FROM WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

02:59:04 AS FAR AS BUDGE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MERGING THOSE

02:59:08 WITH THE RESILIENT CITIES CATALYST REPORT, THE RESILIENT

02:59:14 CITIES CATALYST REPORT IS ACTUALLY MOVING THROUGH ITS

02:59:18 FINAL DRAFTS RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM

02:59:22 THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

02:59:23 AND ACTUALLY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MR. REMER IN MY OFFICE SO

02:59:28 I WILL LET HIM UPDATE THE TIMELINE ON THE ADVISORY

02:59:31 COMMITTEE PROJECT.

02:59:34 AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT

02:59:36 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S ADDENDUM TO THE MOTION.

02:59:39 SO HERE IS WHIT REMER.

02:59:41 >>WHIT REMER: THANKS, COUNCIL, FOR THIS IMPORTANT




02:59:45 CONVERSATION.

02:59:46 RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE ADVISORY TEAM MEETINGS SCHEDULED FOR

02:59:50 TOMORROW AND THE NEXT ONE APRIL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HOST

02:59:53 THOSE, APPROXIMATELY EVERY FIVE TO SIX WEEKS.

02:59:58 KIND OF A PARALLEL EFFORT TO THAT, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT

03:00:01 PROCESSES GOING ON.

03:00:02 ONE IS A GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY UPDATE, WHICH IS BEING

03:00:07 CONDUCTED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

03:00:10 THE INFORMATION FROM THAT INVENTORY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE

03:00:15 BY THE END OF MAY, AND THAT INVENTORY WILL GIVE US A VERY

03:00:23 SPECIFIC PICTURE OF BOTH OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS,

03:00:29 EMISSIONS AND OUR COMMUNITY-WIDE CARBON EMISSIONS, AND WE

03:00:32 WILL INCLUDE SOME HIGH-LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS AND GOALS

03:00:37 WHICH THEN WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS.

03:00:40 THE SECOND PROCESS, WHICH IS ONGOING, WHICH IS OUR

03:00:43 CLIMATE ACTION AND EQUITY PLAN, THE RFQ FOR THAT CLOSES

03:00:49 TOMORROW.

03:00:49 THAT CARBON ACTION AND EQUITY PLAN WILL BE AN 18 MONTH

03:00:53 PROCESS WHEREBY WE GO AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, WHERE

03:00:56 WE TALK TO CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND WE INCORPORATE ALL THE

03:01:00 DATA THAT USF IS GOING TO BE HANDING US, AND WE WILL MAKE

03:01:03 ROBUST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE TIMELINES AND GOALS

03:01:09 WITHIN THAT PLAN THAT THE CITY CAN ACT ON.

03:01:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. REMER, GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN

03:01:16 MIRANDA'S POINT, AND GOING BACK TO MY FOOTBALL ANALOGY,




03:01:19 JUST BECAUSE WE CAN BREAK A TACKLE AND RECEIVE SO MONEYS

03:01:23 FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T MEET

03:01:26 THESE GOALS EARLIER THAN WHAT ARE PLANNED OUT?

03:01:32 >>WHIT REMER: I THINK THAT IS CERTAINLY A REASONABLE

03:01:36 THING TO LOOK AT, AND A REASONABLE GOAL TO SHOOT FOR.

03:01:39 RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ACTUALLY AWAITING THE DATA SO WE CAN

03:01:45 KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THOSE GOALS SHOULD LAND WHEN WE LOOK

03:01:47 AT THE COSTS, AND FRANKLY THE TIME BEHIND HOW QUICKLY WE

03:01:54 NEED TO ACT, YES.

03:01:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN THIS RESOLUTION IS ASPIRATIONAL.

03:02:00 IT WILL COME TO FRUITION WHEN THIS COUNCIL PASSES THE

03:02:03 CITY ORDINANCE.

03:02:04 >>WHIT REMER: I THINK THAT'S THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

03:02:08 YOU WILL SEE IN THE RFQ, WE ARE READY TO GO ORCHESTRA

03:02:11 THIS, READY TO GO ON OUR TRANSPORTATION AND OUR

03:02:14 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT POLICIES AND HANDBOOK, AND MAKE

03:02:18 MEANINGFUL CHANGE, ON CARBON EMISSIONS AND HELP PREPARE

03:02:22 INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE CLIMATE CHANGE.

03:02:25 ABSOLUTELY.

03:02:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO WE CAN EVEN MORE FASTER THAN WE ARE

03:02:29 ANTICIPATING?

03:02:30 THERE IS A POSSIBILITY?

03:02:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S HOW FAST HE'S MOVING.

03:02:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HE'S ALREADY GONE.

03:02:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WILL THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR REQUEST?




03:02:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.

03:02:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

03:03:00 THE CIP TAX IS WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.

03:03:04 IT IS IN 2027.

03:03:05 AND IF MR. WHIT REMER IS GOING TO GIVE US A DETAILED OF

03:03:13 ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TACKLE

03:03:15 FIRST, AND HOW IS THAT MONEY GOING TO BE SPENT ON WHAT

03:03:19 ITEM BETWEEN NOW AND 2027?

03:03:21 BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LAST BITE I THINK IN ANOTHER YEAR OR

03:03:24 TWO, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT, AND THAT'S THE LAST ONE.

03:03:30 THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND THAT'S IT.

03:03:33 THAT'S A 30-YEAR THING.

03:03:34 SO IF WE CAN FIND THAT OUT, THEN MAYBE WHAT I AM SAYING

03:03:37 IS DUPLICATED BY MR. WHIT REMER.

03:03:43 BUT IT HAS TO HAVE SOME GOALS SET WHETHER WE HAVE THE

03:03:45 MONEY AND WE SPEND IT ALL IN ONE AREA.

03:03:47 BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOALS HE'S WORKING ON.

03:03:51 I DON'T KNOW IF HE MEANS 15% OR 20% OR SOMETHING.

03:03:58 SAFETY VEHICLES, OR I DON'T KNOW.

03:04:01 I AM NOT INVOLVED IN THE -- I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN

03:04:06 NONE OF IT.

03:04:06 BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GOALS ARE NEITHER DOES THE REST

03:04:09 OF THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.

03:04:10 SO UNTIL THOSE GOALS ARE REALIZE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE

03:04:13 TO DO.




03:04:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.

03:04:18 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT EVEN PUSHING

03:04:20 IT TO AUGUST 5th.

03:04:22 IS THAT AMENABLE TO YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

03:04:30 I WOULD MUCH RATHER GET THIS DONE SOONER THAN LATER, BUT

03:04:33 I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT.

03:04:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, I AM COMFORTABLE EITHER WAY.

03:04:38 THE ONLY SUGGESTION I MIGHT HAVE, COUNCILMAN CITRO, IS

03:04:42 PERHAPS JUST TO CONTINUE THE ITEM AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW,

03:04:48 WITHOUT SPECIFICALLY SAYING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, WHAT

03:04:53 DOCUMENT WE ARE GOING TO GENERATE IN JULY OR AUGUST,

03:05:00 LEAVING A LITTLE MORE VAGUE, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT

03:05:04 THE CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE FROM

03:05:07 THESE VARIOUS PANELS AND COMMITTEES THAT MR. REMER WAS

03:05:11 JUST TELLING US ABOUT.

03:05:13 SO I'M COMFORTABLE NO MATTER HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.

03:05:16 I WOULD SUGGEST JUST TAKING THIS MATTER, CONTINUING IT SO

03:05:21 THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT WE ARE ON TOP OF IT, WE ARE NOT

03:05:24 JUST, YOU KNOW, SHELVING IT AND FORGETTING ABOUT IT.

03:05:28 WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN.

03:05:30 AND ON THAT DATE CERTAIN WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE

03:05:33 INFORMATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN WE CAN

03:05:35 CRAFT WHATEVER WE NEED TO CRAFT AT THAT TIME.

03:05:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, MY MOTION

03:05:41 WILL BE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL AUGUST 5th, AND IF




03:05:51 THERE IS A TIME -- THERE WILL BE A TIME BEFORE THAT WHEN

03:05:54 ANOTHER DRAFT WILL BE WRITTEN WILL BE GIVEN TO CITY

03:05:56 COUNCIL MEMBERS.

03:05:57 >> 15th, SIR.

03:06:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AUGUST 15th.

03:06:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY, SORRY.

03:06:05 AUGUST 5th IS CORRECT.

03:06:07 I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE.

03:06:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.

03:06:09 AUGUST 5th.

03:06:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE JUST A FEW

03:06:14 MOMENTS COMMENTS.

03:06:15 I WILL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST A CONTINUANCE AND

03:06:17 WE ARE NOT LETTING THIS DISCUSSION DIE.

03:06:19 CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL.

03:06:20 IT'S HAPPENING.

03:06:21 SEA LEVEL RISE IS REAL.

03:06:23 IT'S HAPPENING.

03:06:25 LOOK AT HOW WE HAVE BEEN AT HUMANS IN THE LAST 150 YEARS.

03:06:29 LOOK AT POST CIVIL WAR.

03:06:31 WE HAVE TRAINS RUNNING, WE GO INTO AUTOMOBILE

03:06:34 MANUFACTURING, WE GO INTO NONRENEWABLES, PLASTICS, WE ARE

03:06:40 FRACKING, WE ARE TAKING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN OUT OF

03:06:43 THIS EARTH, AND WE ARE USING IT, CONTINUOUS CONSUMPTION.

03:06:47 NO ONE CAN SAY THAT THIS IS NORMAL IN THE PROCESS OF HOW




03:06:51 EARTH IS.

03:06:52 USING ALL THESE NATURAL RESOURCES, POLLUTING THE

03:06:54 ATMOSPHERE, BUILDING IN PLACES THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE

03:06:58 BUILDING, BECAUSE, YOU SEE, FROM MIAMI TO THE OTHER

03:07:02 COAST, WHEREVER THERE'S LAND, THEY WANT TO DEVELOP IT.

03:07:04 AND THESE FLOOD AREAS, HURRICANE-PRONE AREAS, EARTHQUAKE

03:07:08 PRONE AREAS, WHATEVER IT IS, WE HAVE BEEN ABUSING THE

03:07:11 EARTH, US AS HUMANS.

03:07:13 WHEN WE SAY MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE, IT'S REAL, AND WE

03:07:18 ARE THE GUILTY PARTY AS MANKIND BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING

03:07:21 THESE THINGS OUT THERE, WE ARE CREATING, WE ARE TAKING

03:07:24 FROM THE EARTH IN SUCH A RAPID WAY THAT THE EARTH IS NOT

03:07:28 RENEWING THESE RESOURCES, MANY OF THESE RESOURCES ARE

03:07:32 NONRENEWABLE.

03:07:33 I'M SICK AND TIRED OF BEING PUSHED AROUND BY THE STATE

03:07:38 GOVERNMENT.

03:07:39 WE ARE JUST TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

03:07:41 WE ARE JUST TRYING TO ANSWER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND

03:07:43 THOSE THAT CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

03:07:45 COUNCILMAN CITRO, YOU SAY HOME RULE AND PREEMPTION.

03:07:49 WE SPEAK AND THERE'S ALREADY SOMEBODY OUT THERE READY TO

03:07:52 PROPOSE SOMETHING AT THE STATE LEVEL TO KEEP US FROM

03:07:54 DOING IT, AND SO WHAT?

03:07:57 IS IT SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT OR IS IT

03:08:00 SOMETHING USED FOR REELECTION TO PUT ON A MAILER SAYING




03:08:02 WE ARE PROTECTING YOU FROM THE GRIPS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT?

03:08:06 NO, WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

03:08:08 IF WE DESTROY OUR ENVIRONMENT, IF WE CONTINUE ON THIS

03:08:11 PATH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS?

03:08:14 BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE THAT SEA LEVEL RISE IS HAPPENING AT

03:08:19 SUCH A SMALL LEVEL, A SMALL AMOUNT, WE CAN'T SEE IT BUT

03:08:22 YEAR AFTER YEAR THROUGHOUT OUR LIFETIMES, WE WILL SEE

03:08:25 SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE, SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO THE POINT WHERE

03:08:29 IT'S A POINT OF NO RETURN, AND THEN WHAT?

03:08:32 DO WE SAY, I WISH WE COULD GO BACK YEARS?

03:08:35 WE DON'T HAVE TIME MACHINES.

03:08:36 WE CAN'T GO BACK.

03:08:37 WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH DAMAGE IN THE LAST CENTURY AND A

03:08:40 HALF, SO MUCH CENTURY -- DAMAGE IN THE LAST FIFTY YEARS,

03:08:43 THIS IS LONG OVERDUE.

03:08:45 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP.

03:08:47 I APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING THIS AND NOT PULLING THIS

03:08:51 ITEM, BECAUSE IF THERE WAS TO PULL THE ITEM AND LET THIS

03:08:54 DIE ON THE VINE, I WAS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

03:08:57 BUT EVERY COUNCILMEMBER, MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN

03:09:00 ABOUT THIS.

03:09:00 WE HAVE OUR GOAL.

03:09:02 I KNOW THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS SERIOUS ABOUT REACHING

03:09:05 THESE GOALS, AND IT MAY NOT BE 2045.

03:09:08 IT MIGHT BE SOONER.




03:09:09 IT MIGHT BE 2030.

03:09:10 WHATEVER IT IS.

03:09:11 BUT WE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE NISSAN LEAF FULLY ELECTRIC

03:09:16 VEHICLES.

03:09:17 I SAW ANOTHER AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURING ANNOUNCING IT WILL

03:09:21 STOP MAKING COMBUSTIBLE ENGINES.

03:09:23 WE ARE NOT FIGHTING THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRY.

03:09:25 WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BAN GAS STATIONS.

03:09:27 WE ARE NOT DOING ANY OF THAT.

03:09:28 IT'S ALL THESE SCARE TACTICS.

03:09:31 I HAVE BEEN AROUND POLITICS ENOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR,

03:09:33 A LOT OF BUZZ WORDS THAT USED, THAT STRIKE PANIC IN

03:09:37 PEOPLE BUT THE WORLD IS EXCHANGING AND IT HAS BEEN.

03:09:39 WHERE WAS THE TYPEWRITER INDUSTRY PROTESTING WHEN

03:09:42 COMPUTERS WERE TAKING OVER?

03:09:44 THEY WEREN'T BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY WAS HAPPENING.

03:09:46 THE WORLD WAS CHANGING.

03:09:47 AND YOU HAVE TO EMBRACE THAT.

03:09:49 BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENVIRONMENT, WE CAN'T GO BACK IN

03:09:52 TIME.

03:09:52 WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX MISTAKES BECAUSE WE ARE REACHING

03:09:57 A POINT OF NO RETURN AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY

03:10:00 DANGEROUS.

03:10:01 IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY SCARY WORLD.

03:10:04 I WILL STOP THERE.




03:10:04 I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS STILL ON.

03:10:07 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR, BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE?

03:10:10 >>JOHN BENNETT: I DO.

03:10:12 JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.

03:10:14 THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

03:10:14 I JUST WANTED TO FOCUS ON MR. MIRANDA'S REQUEST WITHIN

03:10:18 THE MOTION.

03:10:20 I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE HE'S COMING FROM.

03:10:22 I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. ROGERO, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL

03:10:27 OFFICER, AS WELL AS MR. RUGGIERO WHO OVERSEAS OUR

03:10:31 LOGISTICS AND ASSETS MANAGEMENT, SPECIFICALLY OUR FLEET,

03:10:35 AND THEY ARE DOING A DEEP ASSESSMENT ON OUR VEHICLE

03:10:39 REPLACEMENT, AND I ASKED SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE TWO

03:10:41 GROUPS TO WORK WITH MR. REMER TO UNDERSTAND THE

03:10:44 AVAILABILITY OF TECHNOLOGY AND WHERE THAT MEETS OUR

03:10:49 VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FROM SAFETY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

03:10:53 CLEAN ENERGY PERSPECTIVE, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE AVAILABLE

03:10:56 FINANCIAL RESOURCES, POTENTIAL GRANTS, AND EVEN OTHER

03:11:01 PURCHASING OR PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE THIS AS

03:11:03 FAST AS POSSIBLE.

03:11:05 SO WE ARE GOING TO -- ACTUALLY APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN

03:11:10 MIRANDA'S INJECTION INTO THE MOTION OF THAT, AND WE WILL

03:11:13 WORK DILIGENTLY TO BRING THAT BACK ALONG WITH THE OTHER

03:11:18 WRAP AROUND REQUESTS.

03:11:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.




03:11:20 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

03:11:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BASED ON OF WHAT MR. BENNETT JUST

03:11:25 SAID I WITHDRAW BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A DUPLICATION.

03:11:27 HE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

03:11:29 HE AND WE WILL HAVE THAT AND POSSIBLY BECAUSE WE ARE

03:11:33 DOING THIS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE, AS I STATED EARLIER, GET

03:11:39 SOME FEDERAL MONEY TO HELP THIS BE A SUPER DUPER HIT HOME

03:11:44 RUN FOR THE WHOLE CITY.

03:11:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING FOOTBALL TERMS,

03:11:49 BASEBALL TERMS.

03:11:50 NOBODY TALKED ABOUT HOCKEY.

03:11:53 THE THIRD PERIOD, NOTHING.

03:11:54 [ LAUGHTER ]

03:11:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM JUST ASKING YOU WHAT

03:11:58 THE MOTION ULTIMATELY ON THE FLOOR IS PRESENTLY.

03:12:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY MOTION IS TO CONTINUE THIS RESOLUTION

03:12:05 UNTIL, WHAT DID WE SAY, AUGUST 5th, BUT THERE WILL BE

03:12:10 A DRAFT PRESENTED BEFORE THEN HAD.

03:12:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE SUBSTITUTE IS WHAT YOU ARE

03:12:14 SAYING?

03:12:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

03:12:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

03:12:19 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

03:12:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

03:12:22 ANY OPPOSED?




03:12:27 GOOD.

03:12:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I MAKE A CLOSING STATEMENT, PLEASE?

03:12:30 I MEAN MY FINAL STATEMENT.

03:12:32 THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

03:12:34 THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT.

03:12:35 THANK YOU WHIT REMER.

03:12:37 THANK YOU, MAYOR CASTOR.

03:12:41 WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS GOING FOR US IN THIS.

03:12:44 AS THE CHAIRMAN STATED, THERE IS FOUR CAR MANUFACTURERS,

03:12:51 AUTO MANUFACTURERS ARE GOING TO GO WITH THEIR FLEET

03:12:54 ENTIRELY ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

03:12:55 BY 2035.

03:12:57 THE CITY CAN WORK ON THINGS TO HELPING OUT THE PUBLIC.

03:13:01 CHARGING STATIONS IN PARKING SPACES ALONG THE STREETS.

03:13:05 AND AGAIN, LITTLE THINGS TO SCORE THOSE FIRST DOWNS.

03:13:09 LED LIGHTS.

03:13:10 SOLAR PANELS.

03:13:12 AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

03:13:15 GENTLEMEN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

03:13:16 I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.

03:13:19 I'M HOPING THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT REQUEST INVITED TO

03:13:23 THE TABLE LAST TIME TO DISCUSS THIS, THERE WERE TWO THAT

03:13:28 SHOWED UP.

03:13:30 I HOPE THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WILL

03:13:33 ALSO SHOW UP THIS NEXT TIME AROUND SO THAT WE CAN ALL




03:13:37 WORK TOGETHER.

03:13:38 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

03:13:39 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

03:13:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND A FINAL REMARK.

03:13:43 I REMEMBER AN ARTICLE FROM 2017 WHEN HURRICANE IRMA WAS

03:13:47 COMING OUR WAY, AND IN SO MANY WORDS, IT SAID, YOU KNOW,

03:13:51 YOU CAN'T BEAT MOTHER NATURE.

03:13:53 AND WHEN MOTHER NATURE COMES BACK, MOTHER NATURE COMES

03:13:55 BACK WITH A GENERAL CONVENIENCE.

03:13:57 BUT IT REMINDS ME OF ONE OF MY FAVORITE POEMS, YOU CAN'T

03:14:01 BEAT DEATH BUT YOU CAN BEAT DEATH IN LIFE SOMETIMES.

03:14:05 WHAT DOES THAT MANY?

03:14:07 THE WORLD IS EVOLVING.

03:14:08 EARTH IS EVOLVING.

03:14:09 BUT WE CAN DO OUR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE

03:14:12 SUSTAINABLE, THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL

03:14:15 ENVIRONMENT, THAT WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AND NOT

03:14:17 JUST POLLUTING AND TAKING AND MAKING THINGS WORSE.

03:14:22 SO I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

03:14:26 I'M GLAD THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

03:14:28 I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THE MAYOR'S BIG GOALS.

03:14:32 SO GOOD.

03:14:33 NEXT ITEM.

03:14:33 ITEM NUMBER 67.

03:14:34 WE HAVE A REPORT FROM SHERISHA HILLS.




03:14:41 SHERISHA.

03:14:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THIS A IN-PERSON REPORT OR RECEIVE

03:14:46 AND FILE?

03:14:48 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THIS IS ON THE DISABILITY PARKS,

03:14:54 CORRECT?

03:14:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

03:14:56 THIS IS THE ADA ACCESSIBILITY.

03:14:58 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF

03:15:01 CONFUSION IN THE MOTION.

03:15:02 MY MOTION ALSO WENT TO NOT JUST ADA BUT DISABILITY

03:15:07 ACCESSIBILITY PARKS WITH REGARDS TO RECREATIONAL

03:15:10 FACILITIES BEING ACCESSIBLE BASED ON WHEELCHAIRS,

03:15:17 MOBILITY, INABILITY TO WALK, SENSORY ISSUES, ET CETERA,

03:15:21 AND WHATNOT.

03:15:22 BUT WHAT I AM GOING TO ASK IS THIS.

03:15:24 I AM GOING TO MAKE A FOLLOW-UP MOTION, IF I MAY, THAT THE

03:15:27 ADMINISTRATION REPORT BACK TO US.

03:15:31 WE PASS OUR BUDGET BY OCTOBER 1st.

03:15:33 WE USUALLY HAVE THE MAYOR, I THINK, PRESENT THE BUDGET

03:15:36 AROUND SEPTEMBER.

03:15:37 SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEPARATE REPORT BY, LET'S SAY,

03:15:43 GOSH ALMIGHTY, THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK -- MR. SHELBY,

03:15:48 LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

03:15:50 WHEN DOES THE MAYOR, IF YOU KNOW, USUALLY MAKE THE BUDGET

03:15:53 PRESENTATION?




03:15:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL BET YOU MR. ROGERO OR CHIEF OF

03:15:57 STAFF WOULD KNOW THAT.

03:15:58 >>JOHN BENNETT: THE CHIEF IS LOOKING AT THE FIRST WEEK

03:16:08 OR TWO IN AUGUST.

03:16:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHIEF.

03:16:12 I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF I MAY FOR THE LAST WEEK OF AUGUST

03:16:15 FOR A REPORT TO COME ON THE FISCAL YEAR, WHAT ARE WE IN,

03:16:18 2022 BUDGET AND THE ADVANCEMENTS THAT IT MAKES IN

03:16:21 DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES

03:16:26 FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.

03:16:28 I ALWAYS SAY WHETHER IT'S $50,000 OR 100,000, WHATEVER IT

03:16:36 MAY BE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE IN THAT REGARD

03:16:38 EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NORTH

03:16:40 TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, ET CETERA, SO THAT, YOU KNOW,

03:16:46 APPARENT RAISING THAT CHILD WITH CEREBRAL PALSY OR DOWN'S

03:16:49 SYNDROME OR AUTISM OR MOBILITY ISSUES CAN KNOW THE CITY

03:16:53 OF TAMPA CONTINUES TO MAKE GAINS FOR THEM.

03:16:55 AND BY THE WAY, WE ARE.

03:16:56 THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL ISSUE AS YOU ALL KNOW.

03:17:00 I SPEAK WITH GREAT PASSION.

03:17:03 I'M JUST THE KIND OF GUY IF I AM GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT

03:17:05 SOMETHING WITH PASSION IT'S BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, AND

03:17:09 THIS ISSUE DOES A GREAT DEAL BECAUSE OF MY BROTHER JUAN,

03:17:12 AND GROWING UP LIKE I DID WITH PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL

03:17:15 DISABILITIES ALL MY LIFE, AND JUST SOMETHING THAT'S SO




03:17:18 CRITICAL.

03:17:18 BUT WE HAVE BEEN MAKING GREAT GAINS ON THIS ISSUE

03:17:22 STARTING UNDER THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION BEGINNING WITH AN

03:17:27 AUTISM FRIENDLY TAMPA PROGRAM, AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL

03:17:31 OF OUR SERVICES OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THE PARKS AND

03:17:35 RECREATION, ET CETERA, ARE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEOPLE

03:17:40 REGARDLESS OF DISABILITIES, ET CETERA, GOING FORWARD WITH

03:17:43 A NEW TAMPA DISABILITY PARK.

03:17:46 I KNOW THAT PART OF THE EAST TAMPA IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE

03:17:49 MAYOR HAS MADE WITH THE LEADERSHIP ADMINISTRATION AND

03:17:53 GREAT FANFARE AND SUPPORT FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES WILL

03:17:56 INCLUDE DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE FACILITIES.

03:18:00 SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

03:18:01 AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

03:18:03 BUT I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT SEPARATE ISSUE CONTINUE TO

03:18:06 BE SATISFIED BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

03:18:08 IT IS.

03:18:08 I MEAN, IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

03:18:10 IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU ARE RAISING A KID LIKE

03:18:13 THAT, THEN IT'S THE WORLD TO YOU AND IT SHOULD BE THE

03:18:15 WORLD TO US.

03:18:16 AND I KNOW THAT IT IS.

03:18:17 SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, IF I MAY.

03:18:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THAT WOULD BE FOR AUGUST 26

03:18:22 UNDER STAFF REPORTS?




03:18:23 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.

03:18:24 JUST A WRITTEN REPORT.

03:18:25 I DON'T NEED ANYONE TO BE HERE.

03:18:27 AND JUST SOMETHING IN WRITING FOR ALL OF US JUST TO KNOW.

03:18:31 I DON'T LIKE TO WASTE PEOPLE'S TIME, ET CETERA.

03:18:33 JUST A NICE PAPER TELLING US, AND THAT'S ALL I WANTS.

03:18:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

03:18:38 I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP EARLIER THIS MORNING.

03:18:40 I READ AN E-MAIL FROM SANDY SANCHEZ AS WELL AS MARTHA

03:18:46 VILA AT VILA BROTHERS PARK, AND EVERY CITY PARK IN THE

03:18:51 CITY OF TAMPA, WE WANT TO BE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE, EVERY

03:18:54 PARK, EVERY PERSON.

03:18:55 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

03:18:56 ALL IN FAVOR?

03:18:58 OPPOSED?

03:18:59 AND MS. HILLS, I KNOW YOU ARE ON THE LINE.

03:19:03 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

03:19:05 I KNOW MY DEPARTMENT DRIVES YOU CRAZY BUT PARKS IS THE

03:19:09 BACKBONE OF MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE HAVE MANY

03:19:11 WONDERFUL RECREATIONAL SPACES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE

03:19:14 BENEFIT FROM.

03:19:14 SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT DO.

03:19:17 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, MS. HILLS, I SEE YOU THERE.

03:19:20 AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU.

03:19:22 YOU ARE A DYNAMO.




03:19:24 YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND I CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY TAKE

03:19:27 OFF THE WORD INTERIM AND THEY PUT A RING ON IT AND PUT

03:19:30 YOU THERE 100%.

03:19:32 BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, AND I HAVE

03:19:35 GREAT CONFIDENCE IN YOU.

03:19:36 I THINK YOU ARE A WOMAN OF GOOD VALUES AND PASSION AND I

03:19:39 APPRECIATE THAT.

03:19:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND IS THAT A MOTION, COUNCILMAN VIERA?

03:19:44 BECAUSE IF IT IS --

03:19:46 >>LUIS VIERA: PUT A RING ON IT?

03:19:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

03:19:49 SEE, YOUR OFFICE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MAY TALK TO HER

03:19:52 BUT I CALL HER UP, AND I'M SURE, OH, GOOD LORD, WHAT DOES

03:19:59 HE WANT NOW?

03:20:00 BUT LET ME TELL YOU SHE HAS HELPED ME AND PEOPLE THEY'VE

03:20:03 SENT HER WAY QUICKER THAN I HAVE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE DO FOR

03:20:08 US.

03:20:10 BUT I HAVE GOT TO SAY THAT I THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR

03:20:13 ALLOWING YOUR STAFF, FOR US TO CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY.

03:20:18 AND MS. HILLS, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR

03:20:21 ME.

03:20:21 AND IF I DON'T SAY THIS IN THE FUTURE, THANK YOU FOR

03:20:24 EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING FOR ME.

03:20:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

03:20:26 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY AMEND MY MOTION.




03:20:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

03:20:31 >>LUIS VIERA: MY MOTION AGAIN IS FOR THE LAST WEEK IN

03:20:33 AUGUST AS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO SAID FOR A REPORT ON WHAT

03:20:37 PROGRESS THAT YEAR'S BUDGET MAKES IN DISABILITY ACCESS

03:20:40 FOR OUR PARKS, INCLUDING WITH FACILITIES.

03:20:44 AND MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU MENTIONED ALSO VILA BROTHERS PARK.

03:20:48 I WOULD ALSO LIKE A REPORT IN THERE FOR WHAT ADA

03:20:51 ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENT AND ALSO MAKES IN THERE AS

03:20:54 WELL, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT IN

03:20:57 THERE.

03:20:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN E-MAIL WITH THE SPECIFICS AND I

03:21:01 CAN PASS THAT ON TO PARKS AND REC SO THEY KNOW.

03:21:04 AND THAT'S COMING FROM SANDY SANCHEZ, WITH VERY SPECIFIC

03:21:08 DETAILS.

03:21:09 ALL RIGHT.

03:21:09 ALL IN FAVOR?

03:21:12 WAIT.

03:21:13 COUNCILMAN VIERA HAD A MOTION.

03:21:14 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

03:21:16 ALL IN FAVOR?

03:21:19 AYE.

03:21:23 ALL RIGHT.

03:21:26 ITEM NUMBER 68 IS ALSO TO RECEIVE AND FILE REGARDING TREE

03:21:29 TRIMMING AROUND ONE OF THE BUSIEST FIRE STATIONS IN THE

03:21:32 COUNTRY.




03:21:32 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

03:21:36 YOU KNOW, I MADE A MOTION TO THE MEN -- STRIKE THAT, I

03:21:39 MADE A PROMISE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF STATION 13 THAT WE

03:21:42 WOULDN'T GO TWO MONTHS ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT

03:21:44 TALKING ABOUT THEM.

03:21:45 NEXT WEEK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON RESPONSE

03:21:51 TIMES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND PERSPECTIVE NEW FEWER

03:21:55 STATIONS FOR CHANNELSIDE, NORTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA, BUT

03:21:57 THIS MONTH'S FIRE STATION 13 REMINDER, TREE TRIMMING,

03:22:03 WHICH A LOT OF MEN AND WOMEN ARE INDICATING IN AREAS

03:22:06 PARTICULARLY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE

03:22:10 BETTER TREE TRIMMING BECAUSE IT WAS AFFECTING THEIR

03:22:12 MOBILITY AND ABILITY TO GET AROUND.

03:22:14 SO AGAIN, AS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO INDICATED, THE BUSIEST

03:22:21 FIRE STATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, ONE OF THE BUSIEST IN

03:22:23 THE UNITED STATES.

03:22:25 ABOUT ONE IN SEVEN CALLS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA COME WITHIN

03:22:29 THE REGION OF STATION 13.

03:22:32 IT HAS WELL OVER 10,000 CALLS.

03:22:33 THE NUMBER TWO IS 25%.

03:22:35 I THINK IT'S STATION 11.

03:22:37 25% LESS THAN 13.

03:22:39 THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL.

03:22:40 SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING SMALL.

03:22:42 AND I THANK THE ADMINISTRATION AGAIN.




03:22:44 AND I'M SURE JOE GRECO WOULD REMIND ME TO SAY THIS AS

03:22:49 WELL, INTERIM CHIEF PITT -- TRIPP.

03:22:57 I'M SORRY, I KNOW AN ATTORNEY NAMED BARBARA FITMAN.

03:23:02 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONTINUED LEADERSHIP AND

03:23:04 PARTNERSHIP ON AND MAYOR CASTOR AND CHIEF BENNETT, THANK

03:23:08 YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF STATION 13.

03:23:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT A RECEIVE AND FILE OR TAKE THAT

03:23:14 UP AT THE END?

03:23:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY

03:23:17 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

03:23:18 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

03:23:20 ALL IN FAVOR?

03:23:21 ALL RIGHT.

03:23:23 WE DID NOT VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 4.

03:23:25 JAN MCLEAN IS HERE.

03:23:26 >>JAN MCLEAN: I HAVE MY MASK HERE.

03:23:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER.

03:23:44 IN RESPONSE TO OUR ORIGINAL MOTION THE LEGAL STAFF

03:23:46 RELATED TO ITEM 69 HAS GIVEN US A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT IS

03:23:52 EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY,

03:23:55 WHICH IS REPEAL THE NOVEMBER ORDINANCE AND GONE ALL THE

03:23:59 WAY BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BACK IN THE FALL, AND TAKE US

03:24:13 BACK TO THE STATUS QUO BEFORE ALL THAT STARTED AND THAT

03:24:15 WAS OUR MOTION IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

03:24:17 THEY GAVE US AN ORDINANCE IN THE LAST DAY OR TWO.




03:24:20 I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF PRINTING IT OUT.

03:24:23 ACTUALLY, I HAD THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT PRINT IT OUT AND I

03:24:25 HAND YOU ALL A HARD COPY, WHICH IS THREE PAGES, ABOUT TWO

03:24:32 AND A HALF PAGES.

03:24:33 SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU.

03:24:36 THANK YOU.

03:24:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

03:24:38 MS. MCLEAN.

03:24:39 >>JAN MCLEAN: OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.

03:24:46 AS MR. DINGFELDER HAS INDICATED, WHAT I AM HERE FOR YOU

03:24:52 TODAY TO S TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

03:24:55 ONE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WAS SIRED FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4

03:25:00 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WHICH REFLECTED THE

03:25:02 ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSED PROPOSAL TO REVISE AS THE

03:25:07 DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD AT THE COUNCIL TO IMPROVE THAT

03:25:11 GEOGRAPHIC AREA WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CORE TO INDICATE THAT

03:25:16 ON SUNDAY, THERE WOULD BE NO FEES FOR PARKING BETWEEN

03:25:21 EIGHT AND TWO.

03:25:21 THE SECOND ORDINANCE WHICH WAS DISTRIBUTED YESTERDAY AND

03:25:26 ATTACHED TO A MEMO THAT WAS DESCRIBING WHY YOU HAD THE

03:25:30 TWO TO CONSIDER WAS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE MOTION THAT

03:25:36 WAS MADE ON FEBRUARY 4th, TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE

03:25:40 WHICH WAS REPEALED ORDINANCE 2020-122, THAT COUNCIL HAD

03:25:47 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, AND TO REINSTATE THE PREVIOUS

03:25:53 PARKING REGULATIONS AS IT EXISTED BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF




03:25:57 2020-122.

03:26:00 SO IT'S A BIT OF A TRAIN TO FOLLOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU

03:26:04 HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

03:26:08 THE FIRST ONE, THE SHORTER ONE, THAT WAS SIRED AS AGENDA

03:26:12 ITEM NUMBER 4, IS THE ONE THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS

03:26:15 PROPOSING AND SUPPORTS, AND THE SECOND ONE IS IN DIRECT

03:26:19 RESPONSE TO THE COUNCIL'S MOTION TO REPEAL.

03:26:25 FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, THAT'S MY EXPLANATION.

03:26:28 I'M HERE FOR FURTHER EXPLANATION AS WE GO THROUGH THE

03:26:31 PRESENTATION.

03:26:32 MR. VIK BHIDE IS ON LINE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS, OR IF

03:26:36 YOU NEED ANY MORE EXPLANATION FURTHER.

03:26:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN.

03:26:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS VIK THERE?

03:26:45 OH, I'M SORRY.

03:26:47 ARE THOSE POLICIES WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, VIK, WE TALKED

03:26:51 ON THE PHONE ABOUT YBOR OR SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES WE

03:26:53 TALKED ABOUT?

03:26:54 >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR.

03:26:58 VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.

03:26:59 COUNCILMAN GUDES, AS FAR AS YBOR IS CONCERNED AND THE

03:27:05 ISSUES THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED, WE ARE ADDRESSING THESE

03:27:08 ISSUES.

03:27:14 HE WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS IN

03:27:16 YBOR CITY.




03:27:17 WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED TODAY AS WELL, IN FACT.

03:27:19 AND OUR GOAL IS REALLY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR NEEDS

03:27:25 ARE, AND HOW WE CAN FURTHER MODIFY SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS

03:27:36 TO YBOR CITY.

03:27:37 SPECIFICALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT ASSISTING LOWER INCOME

03:27:40 WORKERS IN YBOR CITY WITH TAILORED PLANS.

03:27:43 WE CURRENTLY HAVE A COUPLE OF PLANS.

03:27:46 MAYBE WE HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT JOB OF GOING OUT TO THE

03:27:49 COMMUNITY, MAKING THEM AWARE OF THEM, BUT WE ARE ALSO

03:27:52 LISTENING TO PEOPLE -- THIS PROGRAM IS GOING ON

03:27:59 CURRENTLY.

03:27:59 OUR GOAL IS TO LOOK AT LOW-COST TAXES FOR SERVICE WORKERS

03:28:05 SOMEWHERE AROUND $30 OR LESS IF POSSIBLE AND WORK IN YBOR

03:28:15 CITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

03:28:16 I ASSURE YOU IT IS ONGOING AND IT WILL HAPPEN.

03:28:18 THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE ALSO DOING IS WE HAVE ALREADY

03:28:23 CREATED OPTIONS, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH WHAT WE ARE

03:28:29 RECOMMENDING TO PUT FORTH IS AN UNDERSTANDING OVERALL

03:28:34 CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED INITIALLY ABOUT PARKING DOWNTOWN.

03:28:38 WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS

03:28:44 WHILE KEEPING MANY OF THE TENETS OF THE PREVIOUS

03:28:47 ORDINANCE, BECAUSE IT, DID ONE, SIMPLIFY FROM A CUSTOMER

03:28:55 STANDPOINT, AND I THINK WE HAD ONE PERSON CALL EARLIER

03:28:59 TODAY, AND ALSO SPEAK TO KEEP DIFFERENT LANGUAGE IN THE

03:29:06 EXISTING ORDINANCE.




03:29:07 THE OTHER ALSO IS THAT WE FEEL WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS

03:29:12 BETH ALIGNED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S OVERALL STRATEGY,

03:29:15 PARTICULARLY ONE IN TAMPA TOMORROW ADDRESSES CONGESTION,

03:29:21 IT ADDRESSES CONGESTION AND EMISSION, DURING SPECIAL

03:29:29 EVENTS AND MAJOR EVENTS ARE CAUSED BY PARKING AND SOME

03:29:33 STUDIES INCLUDING THOSE RECOMMENDED BY THE INTERNATIONAL

03:29:40 PARKING.

03:29:41 AND LOW COST OR FREE PARKING, IN FACT TURNOVER,

03:29:47 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE, AGAIN REDUCTION AND

03:29:51 OMISSION, AND REINVESTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

03:29:53 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE DISCUSSION SO FAR

03:29:57 AND THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THE

03:30:00 SCALE OF IT, ON STREET PARKING IS A SMALL FRACTION OF OUR

03:30:05 OVERALL PARKING INVENTORY, AND MOST OF IT IS OFF-STREET,

03:30:10 AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON-STREET IN GEOGRAPHY.

03:30:15 THE OTHER THING IS WITHIN DOWNTOWN, SERVICES ARE ONLY ONE

03:30:23 THIRD OF THE ENTIRE PARKING.

03:30:25 I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT THE INTO CONTEXT IN TERMS OF IT.

03:30:30 FINALLY I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WHAT WE ARE BRINGING IN

03:30:34 FRONT OF YOU IS A PRODUCT OF A STUDY INITIALLY STARTED BY

03:30:37 THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, VALIDATED BY THE CITY, AND THEN

03:30:42 WORKED ON BY OUR STAFF IN COORDINATION WITH THE

03:30:45 ADMINISTRATION.

03:30:47 SO AGAIN I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT

03:30:53 I THINK JAN DID A GREAT JOB OF CLARIFYING.




03:30:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST QUESTION.

03:31:01 A CALLER THIS MORNING TALKED ABOUT THE RECREATION CENTER?

03:31:06 I DON'T RECALL YOUR RECOMMENDATION HAVING PARKING METERS.

03:31:10 IS THAT TRUE?

03:31:11 >>VIK BHIDE: SO THIS IS OLDER LANGUAGE, AND WE DO HAVE

03:31:17 SOME FACILITIES WHERE WE DO HAVE ONSTREET PARKING.

03:31:20 FOR EXAMPLE, BEN T. DAVIS IS TECHNICALLY A PARK

03:31:25 MANAGEMENT FACILITY, ENHANCE THE LANGUAGE THERE.

03:31:27 BUT AGAIN, THIS ORDINANCE HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED FOR A VERY

03:31:32 LONG TIME.

03:31:33 SO RATES HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED FOR A LONG TIME SO WE MAY

03:31:40 SEE SOME UNINTENDED LANGUAGE AS WELL.

03:31:43 THAT'S WHY WE ARE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, A MORE EFFICIENT

03:31:49 ORDINANCE, IF YOU WILL.

03:31:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S A LUXURY TO THE BEACH AND

03:31:59 SOMETIMES PARKING.

03:31:59 I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR RECREATIONAL NEEDS, PARK,

03:32:03 HAVING TO PAY FOR IT, JACKSON HEIGHTS CENTER OR LOCAL

03:32:07 PARKS HAVE METERS SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CLEAR THAT

03:32:10 UP.

03:32:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

03:32:12 THEN COUNCILMAN CITRO.

03:32:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

03:32:17 A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS WITH THE DIRECTION THIS IS HEADED.

03:32:20 FOR ONE THING, WE TOOK A LOT OF TIME IN JANUARY AND




03:32:23 FEBRUARY, AND WE HEARD PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ARGUMENT FROM

03:32:26 STAFF, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY FRIEND MR. BHIDE.

03:32:32 AND AFTER LOTS OF DELIBERATIONS, WE BASICALLY SAID, OKAY,

03:32:37 WE HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT FOR NOW LET'S JUST GO TO

03:32:40 WHERE WE WERE IN NOVEMBER BEFORE ALL THIS HAPPENED, OKAY,

03:32:44 AND START OVER.

03:32:45 AND START OVER AND DO THAT WORK, OKAY?

03:32:49 GO OUT TO YBOR AND DO THAT WORK.

03:32:52 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT VISITS TO CHANNELSIDE, BUT

03:32:55 IT TALKS ABOUT GARRISON CHANNEL.

03:32:56 I THINK THAT'S OLD TERM FOR CHANNELSIDE, YOU KNOW.

03:33:02 HAVE WE HAD MEETINGS IN CHANNELSIDE?

03:33:03 HAVE WE HAD MEETINGS IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE, ET CETERA?

03:33:06 SO THIS ADDRESSES, MR. BHIDE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,

03:33:11 ADDRESSES THE PROPOSAL THAT ITEM 4 ADDRESSES THE DOWNTOWN

03:33:16 ISSUE, PERHAPS, TO SATISFACTION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT

03:33:22 ADDRESSES IT AND YOU EVEN ADMITTED YOU ARE STILL IN

03:33:25 DISCUSSION WAS YBOR.

03:33:27 WHY DO WE KEEP DOING THIS?

03:33:30 OKAY.

03:33:32 WAIT, I'M NOT ASKING YOU, VIK.

03:33:34 THAT WAS A RHETORICAL WHY.

03:33:36 YOU CAN COME IN LATER.

03:33:39 MY POINT IS, WHY DO WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS GOING

03:33:43 ROUND AND ROUND.




03:33:44 WE MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WHERE

03:33:48 WE WANTED THIS TO GO.

03:33:49 WE WANTED THE MOTION TO BE CLEAR AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN

03:33:52 FRONT OF KNEW THIS TWO AND A HALF PAGES TO GO BACK TOE

03:33:54 WHERE WE WERE IN THE FALL, AFTER HE'S DONE WITH ALL THIS

03:33:57 INVESTIGATION, EXPLORATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, GONE TO

03:34:00 THE COMMUNITY, BRIEFED UP, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA,

03:34:04 ET CETERA, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND TWEAK UP, YOU

03:34:09 KNOW, TWEAK UP THIS ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.

03:34:11 SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.

03:34:13 AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST TO PUT IT TO A HEAD, I WILL

03:34:15 MAKE A MOTION FOR ADOPT THIS ON FIRST READING, FOR TODAY,

03:34:20 BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY NOTICED AND

03:34:23 EVERYTHING ELSE -- NO?

03:34:26 I DON'T KNOW.

03:34:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FRANKLY, IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA FOR

03:34:29 FIRST READING.

03:34:32 >>JAN MCLEAN: NO.

03:34:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEN PUT IT ON FOR FIRST READING

03:34:36 WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, TWO AND A

03:34:38 HALF PAGES, TAKE THIS BACK TO WHERE WE WERE IN THE FALL,

03:34:41 AND STAFF CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT AND COME BACK AND

03:34:44 TWEAK IT UP LATER.

03:34:49 LET ME SEE IF I GET A SECOND.

03:34:51 THAT'S MY MOTION.




03:34:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?

03:34:59 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.

03:35:02 ANY DISCUSSION?

03:35:03 BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE?

03:35:11 >>VIK BHIDE: SO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IN

03:35:14 YBOR CITY, AND GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONCERN, THE

03:35:20 CONCERN ISN'T ON-STREET PARKING AS WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO

03:35:31 IN THAT REGION?

03:35:33 CONVERSATION THAT IS ONGOING IRRESPECTIVE OF PARKING

03:35:36 POLICY.

03:35:36 THE OTHER CONCERN, WOULD BRING RESIDENTS DOWNTOWN, WE

03:35:43 ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.

03:35:44 AND SO THERE AREN'T ANY PENDING ISSUES PER SE TO CLOSE

03:35:51 BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE OR POLICY

03:35:53 FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.

03:35:56 THERE ARE GOING TO BE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

03:35:58 COMMUNITY.

03:36:00 AT THIS TIME, WHAT WE HAVE IS GOING TO VALIDATE ANY OF

03:36:05 THOSE THINGS, AND I WILL JUST END WITH THAT.

03:36:08 BUT I DON'T WANT TO CONFIRM BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO

03:36:12 DIFFERENT ISSUES.

03:36:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST SINCE YOU MENTIONED MY NAME, IF

03:36:16 I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GOT LOTS OF E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE

03:36:19 DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GOING TO CHURCH,

03:36:22 OKAY.




03:36:22 THESE ARE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS WHO WERE VERY TICKED OFF

03:36:28 THAT THE PROPOSITION WAS GOING TO 24/7, OKAY?

03:36:33 AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT IN THAT EXCLUSION ZONE.

03:36:36 I AM TALKING ABOUT IN THE REST OF DOWNTOWN.

03:36:38 I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS AND HAD CONVERSATIONS FROM EMPLOYEES

03:36:42 IN YBOR CITY, SOME OF WHICH THEY WORK IN BARS AND

03:36:47 RESTAURANTS AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND THEY TAKE

03:36:50 ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE PARKING ON THE PERIPHERY.

03:36:53 AND WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THURSDAY, FRIDAY,

03:36:56 SATURDAY NIGHT.

03:36:56 MANY OF THEM WORK THE REST OF THE WEEK, YOU KNOW.

03:37:00 I THINK 24/7, WHILE IT MIGHT SATISFY A LOT OF LAUDABLE

03:37:06 GOALS AS YOU STATED, I DON'T THINK IS VERY SENSITIVE TO

03:37:10 THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.

03:37:11 AND THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BLANKET 24/7

03:37:15 PROPOSITION THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING.

03:37:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JAN MCLEAN.

03:37:21 >>JAN MCLEAN: IF I COULD.

03:37:23 FIRST I WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU ARE HOLDING UP FOR

03:37:26 CONSIDERATION FOR FIRST READING.

03:37:28 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PROFFERED

03:37:31 THAT REPEALS AND REINSTATES THE EARLIER REGULATIONS,

03:37:35 RIGHT?

03:37:36 OKAY.

03:37:36 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHICH ONE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT




03:37:39 WHEN WE ARE PUTTING IT ON FIRST READING.

03:37:42 IF I COULD, SIR, PLEASE LAY SOME LEGAL FOUNDATION.

03:37:46 WITH WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU NOW.

03:37:48 ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER, UNDER SECTION 4.01, THE MAYOR

03:37:53 IS TASKED WITH VARIOUS DIFFERENT OBLIGATIONS AND THE

03:37:58 AUTHORITY.

03:37:59 AND IN 4.01, SHE IS AUTHORIZED OVER ALL POSITIONS IN

03:38:10 MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.

03:38:10 SHE ALSO HAS THE GENERAL CHARGE, MANAGEMENT CONTROL AND

03:38:13 SUPERVISION OF ALL PROPERTY OF THE CITY.

03:38:16 AND IN YOUR CODE, WHICH IS SECTION 1 -- EXCUSE ME, I WANT

03:38:29 TO MAKE SURE I AM GIVING YOU THE CORRECT CODE SECTIONS --

03:38:33 THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE SHALL BE ADMINISTERED AND

03:38:36 ENFORCED BY THE OFFICIAL WHICH IS OF COURSE THE MAYOR.

03:38:40 OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A CODE OF

03:38:42 ORDINANCES WHICH WAS LAID OUT DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND

03:38:45 DIFFERENT PARAMETERS WITH WHICH THE OFFICIAL THEN WORKS

03:38:48 WITHIN, AND ENFORCES.

03:38:51 WE ARE NOT HERE TO SUGGEST THAT WE ARE NOT WORKING BACK

03:38:54 AND FORTH WITH THE COUNCIL, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA

03:38:58 AND ARENA, THE CHARTER AND THE CODE SPECIFICALLY SAYS

03:39:02 THAT IT'S THE MAYOR'S PREROGATIVE AND AUTHORITY, AND THAT

03:39:06 THE MAYOR DELEGATES TO THE OFFICIAL WHO IS THE DIRECTOR

03:39:10 OF THE DEPARTMENT TO ENFORCE, ADMINISTER THESE

03:39:15 PARTICULAR -- THE REGULATIONS.




03:39:22 IF I COULD CONTINUE ON JUST A LITTLE BIT.

03:39:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. MCLEAN, YOU CONFUSE ME A LITTLE

03:39:32 BIT ON THAT LAST PORTION.

03:39:34 >>JAN MCLEAN: WHICH LAST PORTION?

03:39:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY IS TO PUT

03:39:38 FORTH AN ORDINANCE, WE ARE LOOK AT CHANGING AN

03:39:41 ORDINANCE --

03:39:43 >> RIGHT.

03:39:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THIS CHANGE IS -- DIRECTS THE

03:39:49 ADMINISTRATION TO ENFORCE, CORRECT?

03:39:54 >>JAN MCLEAN: POTENTIALLY, SIR, IF YOU HAD A BLANK SLATE

03:39:59 AND YOU LOOKED AT THE CHARTER AND YOU LOOKED AT CODE, THE

03:40:03 MAYOR IS AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE ALL CAPACITY OF THE CITY.

03:40:09 THE EXERCISE AND DIRECT CONTROL AND SUPERVISION OVER ALL

03:40:12 DEPARTMENTS, DIVISIONS AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, GENERAL

03:40:15 CHARGE MANAGEMENT CONTROL AND SUPERVISION OF ALL

03:40:18 PROPERTIES IN THE CITY, AND SO UNDER THE CODE, THE

03:40:21 DEPARTMENTS ARE CREATED, AND THE OFFICIAL DELEGATES HER

03:40:26 AUTHORITY TO THE DIRECTOR OF THAT DEPARTMENT, IN THIS

03:40:29 CASE WE HAVE THE PARKING DIVISION OF THE TRANSPORTATION

03:40:35 DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE

03:40:41 CITY.

03:40:41 AND IT ALSO SAYS IN THE CODE IN 15.1 THAT IT'S THE

03:40:45 DIRECTOR THAT CAN DESIGNATE ZONES IN WHICH THE METERS CAN

03:40:50 BE PLACED.




03:40:52 AND WHAT THE DEPARTMENT BROUGHT TO YOU WAS A WORKING BACK

03:40:57 AND FORTH TO RECOGNIZE AN ONGOING PROGRAM.

03:41:00 THAT'S WHAT VIK WAS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS

03:41:02 SUSTAINABILITY.

03:41:03 RESILIENCY, AND THEY HAD WORKED WITH THE DOWNTOWN

03:41:05 PARTNERSHIP AND OTHER GROUPS, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, I

03:41:09 WASN'T AT THAT MEETINGS, WAS TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY

03:41:12 INVOLVED AND RECOGNIZE WHAT WAS GOING TO BE PROFFERED TO

03:41:14 YOU BACK IN NOVEMBER THERE.

03:41:16 WERE TWO DIFFERENT -- THERE WAS A RESOLUTION ON THE FEES.

03:41:20 THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE TO TAKE IT BACK TO MUCH MORE

03:41:23 EFFICIENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF WHAT PARKING METERS WOULD

03:41:26 BE REGULATED, 24/7.

03:41:30 WHAT THAT ALSO GIVES IS THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE DIRECTOR

03:41:34 TO REGULATE THOSE PARKING METERS.

03:41:37 FOR INSTANCE, YOU SEE BAGS PUT ON THE PARKING METERS IF

03:41:40 YOU HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS.

03:41:41 AND WHAT THEY ARE MOVING TOWARDS AND WHAT WAS EXPLAINED

03:41:43 IN THE NOVEMBER HEARINGS WAS THEY WERE MOVING TOWARDS

03:41:48 APPS SO PEOPLE COULD HAVE BETTER ACCESS AND THE

03:41:52 DEPARTMENT WOULD BE BETTER ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT WAS

03:41:55 HAPPENING AND REFLECTED WITHIN WHATEVER METERS ZONES THEY

03:42:00 WERE IN.

03:42:01 SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS, I JUST WANTED TO ADVISE

03:42:07 THE COUNCIL OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND




03:42:11 THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE IMPLEMENTATION THE PROGRAM.

03:42:17 SOMETIMES LESS IS MORE.

03:42:18 IF YOU HAVE WHAT YOU ADOPTED BACK IN NOVEMBER, YOU

03:42:22 PROVIDED THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE CHARTER, DESPITE THE FACT

03:42:27 THAT AS I SAID IF YOU HAVE A CLEAN SLATE, WE WOULDN'T

03:42:32 NECESSARILY NEED THOSE ORDINANCES IN ORDER TO OPERATE THE

03:42:34 DEPARTMENT, AND THE PROPERTIES, AND THE METERED ZONES.

03:42:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE THE POLICIES --

03:42:44 >>JAN MCLEAN: PURSUANT TO THE CODE, AND THE ANSWERS TO

03:42:49 THE MAYOR AND HAS THAT AUTHORITY SO IT WORKS BACKWARDS

03:42:53 AND DOWN.

03:42:54 SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME I KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION

03:42:56 THROUGH THE DIRECTOR HAS PROFFERED THE DOWNTOWN

03:43:03 RECOGNITION OF SUNDAY 8 TO 2 WITHOUT THE FEE.

03:43:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I --

03:43:16 >>JAN MCLEAN: I WOULD NOT WANT COUNCILMAN --

03:43:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

03:43:32 >>JAN MCLEAN: I'M ABOUT READY TO WIND UP ANYWAY.

03:43:35 WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR THE LEGAL

03:43:37 GOING FORWARD, AS MR. DINGFELDER IS ASKING US TO REPEAL

03:43:42 THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL HAD ALREADY PREVIOUSLY

03:43:45 APPROVED IN NOVEMBER WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW, THE

03:43:50 COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION MAY FIND THEMSELVES IN THE

03:43:52 BEST POSITION IN THE IMPLEMENTATION WITH ALL OF THE

03:43:57 ASPECTS OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, SUSTAINABILITY AND




03:44:02 RESILIENCY, REVENUE AND FINANCE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS YOU

03:44:06 HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD GIVE YOU THE MOST FLEXIBILITY

03:44:09 AND RECOGNIZING THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

03:44:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

03:44:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF ISSUES GOING

03:44:18 ON HERE.

03:44:19 SOME OF THEM ARE VERY BIG PICTURE ISSUES.

03:44:21 SOME OF THEM ARE VERY SMALL IN RELATION TO PARKING AND

03:44:26 THIS ORDINANCE.

03:44:26 IN THE BIG PICTURE, AND JAN AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER

03:44:30 20-PLUS YEARS -- SHE'S ONE OF THE SMARTEST FOLKS AROUND.

03:44:35 BUT MS. GRIMES HAS TOLD US MANY, MANY TIMES THAT IT'S HER

03:44:40 JOB TO DIRECT LEGAL ADVICE AND NOT GO INTO POLICY, AND

03:44:47 ESPECIALLY AS RELATED TO DEFENDING STAFF.

03:44:50 MR. BHIDE IS ON THERE.

03:44:53 HE CAN DEFEND THE STAFF'S POSITION.

03:44:54 BUT I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT JAN BUT I FELT LIKE IT.

03:44:58 YOU WERE STRAYING WAY OVER INTO DEFENDING STAFF'S

03:45:01 POSITION.

03:45:02 THIS IS WHAT THEY DID, THIS IS WHY THEY DID IT,

03:45:05 ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

03:45:06 IF THAT'S THE POSITION OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THEN IT

03:45:12 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET INTO THESE

03:45:14 ISSUES WHERE WE MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY AGREE WITH STAFF'S

03:45:16 POSITION, OKAY?




03:45:18 AND THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

03:45:20 NUMBER TWO IS I HAD THIS CHARTER CONVERSATION WITH MS.

03:45:23 GRIMES, MS. MCLEAN, MS. ZELMAN, MR. SHELBY, I THINK, WAS

03:45:30 ON THE PHONE A FEW NIGHTS AGO, AND I HEARD WHERE THEY

03:45:33 WERE HEADED, OKAY, BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE ON

03:45:38 THE ONE HAND THEY ARE SAYING, WELL, COUNCIL, YOU PROBABLY

03:45:43 REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS IN ANY OF THIS.

03:45:50 THAT SEEMS TO BE THE UNDERLYING TONE.

03:45:52 AND THEN WE HEARD THAT AS RELATED TO CRB.

03:45:54 WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO HEAR THAT AS RELATED

03:45:57 TO MANY, MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE CODE AS THEY REFINE

03:46:01 THEIR POSITION.

03:46:02 AND I WAS HOPING WE COULD AVOID THIS.

03:46:05 AND I ACTUALLY ASKED MS. GRIMES, LET'S JUST AVOID THIS.

03:46:11 THAT COUNCIL SEEMS TO WANT TO BRING IT UP.

03:46:16 THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE SPEAKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF

03:46:19 THEIR MOUTH BECAUSE ON ONE HAND THEY SAY COUNCIL

03:46:22 SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING WITH THAT ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT'S

03:46:24 TOO MUCH DETAIL, THAT'S TOO MUCH INVOLVEMENT, YOU KNOW,

03:46:26 COUNCIL SHOULDN'T BE MEDDLING IN THIS.

03:46:28 BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE BRINGING US BACK AN

03:46:30 ORDINANCE THAT DOES EXACTLY THAT AND SAYS, THIS COUNCIL

03:46:34 IS AUTHORIZING 24/7 PARKING.

03:46:37 OKAY.

03:46:38 IF THEY THINK WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS IN IT, THEN




03:46:40 MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE AT ALL.

03:46:44 BUT THEY SAY WE NEED AN ORDINANCE.

03:46:46 ALL I'M SAYING, COUNCIL, AND I KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO

03:46:51 THERE, MS. GRIMES, AND THANK YOU FOR POPPING UP ON THE

03:46:53 SCREEN.

03:46:53 I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THERE TODAY.

03:46:56 AND I ASKED YOU THAT.

03:46:57 BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS, IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, THIS

03:47:01 COUNCIL MADE A VOTE, AND SOMEBODY TOLD ME IT WAS

03:47:03 UNANIMOUS BY FEBRUARY, THAT WE WOULD JUST RETURN BACK TO

03:47:07 WHERE WE WERE, TURN THE CLOCK BACK TO WHERE WE WERE IN

03:47:11 NOVEMBER, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS TWO AND A HALF

03:47:13 PAGE ORDINANCE SAYS.

03:47:16 THANK YOU.

03:47:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S BEEN MY CONCERN A WHILE.

03:47:21 SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE A DOUBLE EDGE SWORD AND THAT'S WHY

03:47:25 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE RUN

03:47:29 INTO THESE ISSUES WHERE SOMETIMES INTERPRETATION, AND YOU

03:47:40 GIVE US LEGAL ADVICE AND WE GO THERE.

03:47:42 BUT I DO THINK AT SOME POINT, AND NO OFFENSE TO YOU, JAN,

03:47:45 YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT AT SOME POINT, I ASKED MR.

03:47:49 SHELBY AND MS. GRIMES THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF

03:47:54 WORKSHOP SOME CLEAR UP SOME OF THESE ISSUES ABOUT WHAT

03:47:56 AUTHORITY THIS COUNCIL HAS AND WHAT AUTHORITY THE

03:47:58 ADMINISTRATION HAS, AND IT COMES TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE




03:48:00 TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT SO THERE'S A CLEAR FOCUS POINT

03:48:05 OF WHO HAS WHAT AUTHORITY, WHEN, WHERE AND HOW, AND WE

03:48:08 DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES.

03:48:09 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF ME, AND THAT'S WHY I

03:48:12 ASKED, BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT POLICY, RIGHT?

03:48:17 AND CERTAIN POLICIES HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED AT TIMES, AND

03:48:23 FOLLOW THAT.

03:48:23 BUT WE TALK ABOUT ORDINANCES ON THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE, THE

03:48:29 LEGISLATIVE SIDE HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY. AND WHAT THE

03:48:32 ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE GIVEN YOU -- YOU KNOW WHAT YOU

03:48:37 HAVE TO DO AND SOMETIMES TWEAK THAT WITH POLICIES.

03:48:40 I'M FINE WITH THAT.

03:48:41 SO MY THING AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT

03:48:46 MOTION GOES.

03:48:48 I DID THAT AS I A COURTESY, MR. DINGFELDER.

03:48:52 BUT I WANT TO SAY MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD AND SET UP

03:48:56 WHATEVER MEETINGS OR WORKSHOPS YOU NEEDS SO COUNCIL CAN

03:48:59 BE DISCUSS THESE ISSUES SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD

03:49:02 SO WE CAN GET ALONG WITH EVERYBODY.

03:49:03 I LIKE EVERYBODY GETTING ALONG.

03:49:05 AND MAKING SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

03:49:08 SO IN THE FUTURE DO THAT.

03:49:10 I SEE MRS. GRIMES IS HERE.

03:49:12 BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ISSUE UNTIL IT JUST CAME UP

03:49:16 SO I AM GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT ISSUE, JAN.




03:49:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. GRIMES.

03:49:21 >>GINA GRIMES: CITY ATTORNEY.

03:49:25 A COUPLE THINGS.

03:49:25 I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. GUDES, THAT I LIKE IT WHEN

03:49:28 EVERYBODY GETS ALONG, AND I THINK THIS CONVERSATION COULD

03:49:30 BE FILED IN THAT CATEGORY, NO BIGGIE,

03:49:36 MR. DINGFELDER TEXTING ME OFFLINE.

03:49:40 I PREFER NOT TO DO THAT.

03:49:41 I PREFER TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING IN THE PUBLIC.

03:49:47 WHAT WE DID THE OTHER DAY IS WE DISCUSSED THE

03:49:51 ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSE WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT WE

03:49:55 THOUGHT YOU HAD REQUESTED, WHICH WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT

03:49:59 ALLOWED FOR PARKING METERS TO BE ENFORCEABLE OR OPERATE

03:50:05 24/7, AND FOR THAT ONE PARTICULAR EXCEPTION ON SUNDAY

03:50:09 MORNING.

03:50:09 THAT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.

03:50:12 MR. DINGFELDER CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT THAT WASN'T

03:50:17 EXACTLY WHAT HIS PREVIOUS MOTION HAD REQUESTED, AND THAT

03:50:21 IN FACT WHAT HE ASKED FOR WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT REPEALED

03:50:26 THE PREVIOUS CODE SECTION, AND QUESTIONED WHY WE DIDN'T

03:50:32 BRING THAT BACK.

03:50:33 THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TWO ORDINANCES THAT ACTUALLY CONFLICT

03:50:35 WITH ONE ANOTHER IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

03:50:37 AND IN TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO MR. DINGFELDER THE OTHER DAY,

03:50:41 AS TO WHY WE PRESENTED THE ORDINANCE THAT WE FIRST




03:50:43 PRESENTED, THE TOPIC OF THE CHARTER CAME UP, AND I SAID

03:50:49 TO HIM AND I WILL SAY TO YOU, AND I HAVE IN A PROBLEMS

03:50:51 HAVING A WORKSHOP GOING FORWARD, BUT THIS ISN'T AN AGE

03:50:56 OLD CITY WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION

03:51:00 DEBATING WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT UNDER THE

03:51:03 CHARTER.

03:51:04 AND I KNOW MR. GUDES YOU WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW

03:51:09 COMMISSION, AND EXTENSIVELY EVALUATED THE CHARTER, AND

03:51:13 JUST TWO YEARS AGO, A LOT OF CHARTER AMENDMENT WERE PUT

03:51:16 OUT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THEY WERE VOTED

03:51:18 UPON, AND THOSE CHARTER AMENDMENTS SUPPORTED A STRONG

03:51:21 MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

03:51:23 AND THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE THAT COMES DOWN TO IN THIS

03:51:26 CASE.

03:51:28 YES, THERE'S A SEPARATION OF POWERS POSITION IN THE

03:51:30 CHARTER.

03:51:31 IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS AND STARTS WITH, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE

03:51:37 DIRECTLY HEREIN PROVIDED.

03:51:40 ALL LEGISLATIVE POWERS SHALL BE VESTED AND EXERCISED BY

03:51:44 THE CITY COUNCIL.

03:51:46 EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE HEREIN EXPRESSLY PROVIDED.

03:51:50 WHICH THAT MEANS THAT WHEN THE CHARTER PROVIDES THAT THE

03:51:53 MAYOR HAS CERTAIN AUTHORITY, THE COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE

03:51:56 THE AUTHORITY TO LEGISLATE ON THAT SUBJECT.

03:51:59 THAT'S ALL WE ARE SAYING HERE.




03:52:00 THAT'S GOOD.

03:52:01 IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

03:52:02 THE MAYOR HAS CONTROL, MANAGEMENT, PROVISION OVER ALL

03:52:07 CITY PROPERTIES.

03:52:07 THAT INCLUDES THE T STREETS.

03:52:12 ALL WE ARE SAYING IS WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE POWERS THAT

03:52:16 ARE EXPRESSLY PROVIDED FOR TO THE ADMINISTRATION, TO THE

03:52:19 MAYOR UNDER THE CHARTER, THE COUNCIL CANNOT LEGISLATE.

03:52:26 THAT'S IT.

03:52:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I

03:52:28 RESPECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE CHARTER REVIEW.

03:52:30 BUT I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEMBERS THAT SIT ON THAT

03:52:33 CHARTER REVIEW.

03:52:34 AND AS I REFLECT BACK NOW, AND I REFLECT OUR CONVERSATION

03:52:40 ABOUT CERTAIN ISSUES, AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE DID

03:52:44 CERTAIN THINGS, BUT SOME OF THE VERBIAGE THAT I RECALL

03:52:48 HEARING AND THE INTENT, HAVE KIND OF SWITCHED A LITTLE

03:52:52 BIT WHERE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WENT.

03:52:58 AND I ASSUME NOT SAYING THAT.

03:53:00 I JUST LOOKED NOW AT SOME OF THE WORDING AND MY THOUGHT,

03:53:04 ACTUALLY TO LOOK AT HOW IT WAS WORDED, BUT SOME OF THE

03:53:09 THINGS THAT HAS COME OUT OF THIS CHARTER REVIEW

03:53:13 COMMISSION BOARD, NOW I CAN GUARANTEE SOME OF THE INTENT

03:53:19 IS NOT WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO, WRITS

03:53:23 GOING, AND THAT'S NOT TO BLAME THE ADMINISTRATION,




03:53:28 NOBODY.

03:53:28 BUT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS TO

03:53:30 MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DEFINITE LINE OF WHO IS ON WHAT SIDE

03:53:35 OF WHAT LINE SO WE DON'T HAVE THESE KIND OF CONFLICTS

03:53:38 BECAUSE I JUST DON'T -- I LIKE US TO GET ALONG.

03:53:41 SOMETIMES YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT, BUT WE COME

03:53:43 TOGETHER, WE MAKE IT WORK, WE MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE

03:53:46 CLIENT, THE PEOPLE.

03:53:47 THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.

03:53:48 YOU APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS.

03:53:49 >>JAN MCLEAN: I DID WANT TO ADDRESS ONE THING MR.

03:53:56 DINGFELDER SAID AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS, BUT THE

03:53:59 OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTS BOTH THE

03:54:01 ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

03:54:04 SO YOU WILL FIND -- AND WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION THE

03:54:06 OTHER NIGHT -- AND SOMETIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF MEETING TO

03:54:15 ADVOCATE BOTH FOR THE ADMINISTRATION'S POSITION, AND HERE

03:54:20 IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL.

03:54:22 AND ADVOCATING CITY COUNCIL'S POSITION.

03:54:26 SO I WAS EXPLAINING MY DUTIES FOR THE ADMINISTRATION

03:54:32 WHILE I'M STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF YOU EXPLAINING TO

03:54:37 CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.

03:54:39 SO I'M SERVING IN BOTH CAPACITIES.

03:54:41 I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

03:54:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.




03:54:46 YES, MA'AM.

03:54:46 >> MR. GUDES, YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT CONCERNED ME

03:54:56 BECAUSE YOU KNOW I WAS ALSO ON THE CHARTER REVIEW

03:54:58 COMMISSION, AS WAS MORRIS MASSEY, MARTY SHELBY,

03:55:04 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

03:55:05 BELIEVE ME, I HAVE NOW GONE BACK AND LISTENED TO THE

03:55:09 RECORDINGS OF ALMOST ALL OF OUR MEETINGS.

03:55:11 I HAVE LOOKED AT THE MINUTES OF ALL OUR MEETINGS.

03:55:16 I HAVE READ THE BALLOT LANGUAGE.

03:55:18 I HAVE READ THE MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHEN

03:55:20 THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION BROUGHT BACK THE

03:55:23 RECOMMENDATION TO THEM.

03:55:26 EVERY EVERYTHING WE VOTED ON WAS VERY CLEARLY

03:55:30 ESTABLISHED, APPROVED OF BY THE CHARTER REVIEW

03:55:33 COMMISSION, ULTIMATELY BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I JUST

03:55:37 DIDN'T WANT TO LEAF ANYONE WATCHING OR ANY MEMBER OF THE

03:55:40 PUBLIC WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED

03:55:44 BETWEEN THE TIME WE WERE AT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION

03:55:47 AND THE LANGUAGE ENDED UP ON THE BALLOT, BECAUSE,

03:55:52 UNFORTUNATELY, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING BACK AND

03:55:55 RELIVING THAT EXPERIENCE, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT

03:55:59 EVERYTHING THAT WE VOTED ON DURING THAT CHARTER REVIEW

03:56:03 COMMISSION PROCESS WAS ACCURATELY REFLECTED IN THE

03:56:08 CHARTER BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT ULTIMATELY WAS APPROVED BY

03:56:10 THE VOTERS.




03:56:11 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING OFF TRACK, BUT I DIDN'T --

03:56:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAT ON THAT WITH US, MR. SHELBY,

03:56:18 MR. CITRO, MR. CARLSON.

03:56:20 I THINK ALL OF US HAVE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF THE

03:56:24 WHOLE PROCESS.

03:56:25 AND I'M JUST SPEWING THAT OUT.

03:56:29 I'M NOT SAYING THAT WAS THE CASE IT HAPPENED.

03:56:30 I'M JUST SAYING WHAT MY MEMORY WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR.

03:56:34 CITRO'S MEMORY WAS, OR MR. CARLSON'S OR MR. SHELBY, BUT

03:56:39 WE ALL WERE THERE.

03:56:41 I AM GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT BUT WE WERE ALL THERE AND

03:56:44 I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

03:56:45 AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

03:56:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO CHIME IN

03:56:49 ON THIS SUBJECT AND I HAD NO INTENTION TO DO THAT BUT AS

03:56:51 THE FULL DISCUSSION IS TAKING PLACE BUT PEOPLE WHO

03:56:54 PRECEDED ME, I JUST HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU, COUNCIL, MY

03:56:57 CONCERN.

03:56:58 MY CONCERN IS THE WAY THESE CHARTER CHANGES PERHAPS HAVE

03:57:00 BEEN INTERPRETED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

03:57:05 WHY, I DON'T KNOW.

03:57:06 I LOOKED AT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE MYSELF AND I QUESTION

03:57:09 WHEN WHETHER THE VOTERS WHEN THEY ULTIMATELY MADE THE

03:57:12 DECISION THAT THEY WERE HAMSTRINGED IN LIMITING THE POWER

03:57:15 OF THEIR LEGISLATIVE BODY, BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED IF




03:57:18 THAT'S THE INTENT, THEN THE NEW PARADIGM OF THE CITY

03:57:24 COUNCIL TO DELEGATE YOUR AUTHORITY BECAUSE NEW AUTHORITY

03:57:26 UNDER THE CHARTER.

03:57:28 AND THAT DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.

03:57:30 BUT I AM WILLING DO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

03:57:32 I JUST WANTS TO POINT OUT FINANCE WE ARE GOING TO BE

03:57:34 QUOTING SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER, SECTION 4.01 IS THE

03:57:40 MAYOR, AND THERE'S A LIST OF, WHAT, 10 OR 11 THINGS THAT

03:57:45 THE MAYOR'S DUTIES,

03:57:49 LET ME READ TO YOU JOB 1.

03:57:58 THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ENFORCEMENT OF ALL LAWS,

03:58:03 ORDINANCES, CONTRACTS, AND FRANCHISES.

03:58:07 THAT'S JOB 1.

03:58:08 WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION DOWN THE ROAD.

03:58:11 THANK YOU.

03:58:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

03:58:17 WHERE ARE WE AT?

03:58:22 AND THIS IS TO GO BACK TO WHAT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE THE

03:58:27 ADOPTED 2020-122 WHICH WAS FROM NOVEMBER 5th.

03:58:31 IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

03:58:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] CORRECT.

03:58:36 PURSUANT TO OUR MOTION IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, BACK TO

03:58:40 WHERE WE WERE BEFORE WE STARTED OUT --

03:58:45 >>> OKAY.

03:58:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE]




03:58:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

03:58:54 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION.

03:58:55 COUNCILMAN GUDES SECONDED THAT MOTION.

03:59:01 ROLL CALL VOTE.

03:59:02 >> FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PLACE IT ON FIRST READING

03:59:08 CONSIDERATION?

03:59:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, APRIL

03:59:10 1st.

03:59:11 CORRECT?

03:59:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.

03:59:15 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

03:59:16 VIERA?

03:59:16 >>LUIS VIERA: I VOTE NO ON THE ORIGINAL REPEAL, SO I

03:59:21 WILL VOTE NO FOR PURPOSES OF THIS.

03:59:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.

03:59:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

03:59:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.

03:59:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.

03:59:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:

03:59:45 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, GUDES, CITRO AND

03:59:48 MIRANDA VOTING NO AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

03:59:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 4?

03:59:58 THAT TIES INTO THIS.

04:00:00 ITEM NUMBER 4.

04:00:04 WE HAVE WE ALREADY HEARD EVERYTHING FOR 69.




04:00:06 SO THIS TIES BACK INTO THAT.

04:00:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.

04:00:10 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

04:00:11 I JUST WANT TO YOU TO KNOW THAT IS ON YOUR AGENDA AND IS

04:00:15 NOTICED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

04:00:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.

04:00:20 ANYBODY WISH TO BE READ ITEM NUMBER 4?

04:00:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL READ IT AND LET'S SEE WHERE IT

04:00:35 GOES.

04:00:36 FILE NUMBER E-2021-8 CHAPTER 15, ORDINANCE BEING

04:00:41 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE

04:00:43 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO PARKING METER

04:00:47 REGULATIONS, MAKING REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF

04:00:51 ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15, PARKING, AMENDING ARTICLE II,

04:00:56 REGULATIONS, PERMITS, PENALTIES, DIVISION 2, PARKING

04:00:59 METER REGULATIONS, SECTION 15-81, HOURS OF OPERATION FOR

04:01:06 PARKING METERS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

04:01:09 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREIN WITH, PROVIDING FOR

04:01:13 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

04:01:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

04:01:22 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

04:01:24 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

04:01:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

04:01:28 AND MAYBE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.

04:01:31 I'M A BIT CONFUSED.




04:01:32 IS ANYBODY ELSE CONFUSED?

04:01:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: (LAUGHTER).

04:01:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

04:01:39 SO WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON NOW, MS. MCLEAN, I'M A BIT SLOW

04:01:43 TODAY, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS, BUT IF COULD YOU EXPLAIN,

04:01:46 MA'AM.

04:01:46 >>JAN MCLEAN: OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.

04:01:51 WARM IN HERE.

04:01:51 THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU NOW AMENDS

04:01:56 THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WHICH IS THE 24/7 BUT INCLUDES AN

04:02:00 EXCEPTION FOR THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT'S DELINEATED FOR

04:02:04 THE DOWNTOWN BETWEEN 8 AND 2 FOR NO PARKING.

04:02:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

04:02:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND.

04:02:14 ROLL CALL VOTE.

04:02:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

04:02:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

04:02:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. MCLEAN OR MS. GRIMES, EITHER ONE.

04:02:25 SO YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY ASKING COUNCIL TO PROSCRIBE HOURS

04:02:34 OF OPERATION FOR METERS IN THIS ORDINANCE.

04:02:38 CORRECT?

04:02:40 24/7 EXCEPT IN THAT LIMITED AREA.

04:02:43 AND YOU ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO VOTE ON IT.

04:02:47 >>JAN MCLEAN: WE ARE RESPONDING TO WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS

04:02:50 THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL OVER THE COURSE OF JANUARY AND




04:02:53 FEBRUARY MEETINGS.

04:02:56 AND SO WE HAVE BROUGHT BACK --

04:03:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM TALKING ABOUT THE TEXT IN THE

04:03:03 DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

04:03:04 >> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

04:03:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY POINT GOES TO THE CHARTER, OKAY.

04:03:08 SO YOU ARE TELLING US, YOU ARE GIVING US YOUR LEGAL

04:03:10 ADVICE THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE

04:03:14 THAT ADDRESSES THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AND THE GEOGRAPHIC

04:03:18 SCOPE OF THOSE METERS AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT IN THIS

04:03:22 ORDINANCE?

04:03:24 >>JAN MCLEAN: WE ARE FOLLOWING WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY

04:03:26 BEEN, WHICH IS THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT THESE TYPES

04:03:29 OF ORDINANCES AND REFLECTED IN THE CODE.

04:03:33 YOU ARE, I THINK, IN MY LEGAL OPINION, DO WE NEED THIS?

04:03:37 NO, I DON'T.

04:03:37 I THINK THAT THE DIRECTOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH

04:03:41 GEOGRAPHICALLY AND TO NOT IMPOSE THE PARKING METER RATES

04:03:48 DURING THAT TIME WITHOUT A CODE.

04:03:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SOMEBODY ALREADY SIGNED THIS FOR

04:03:54 LEGAL SUFFICIENCY OR GOING TO SIGN IT FOR LEGAL

04:03:58 SUFFICIENCY ON BEHALF OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT?

04:04:01 >>JAN MCLEAN: AS FAR AS COMING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, FOR

04:04:03 COUNCIL TO --

04:04:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, I'M SAYING, NUMBER 4, IS




04:04:09 SOMEBODY IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT EITHER MS. GRIMES OR YOU

04:04:12 OR SOMEBODY ELSE GOING TO SIGN THIS IN REGARD TO -- YOU

04:04:17 ALWAYS SIGN --

04:04:21 >> IT'S IN SIRE.

04:04:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IT'S LEGALLY SUFFICIENT AND THAT'S

04:04:25 THE POSITION OF LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT WE ARE GOOD TO GO

04:04:28 ON ENDORSING, AND WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THESE

04:04:33 HOURS?

04:04:34 THAT'S WHAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS SAYING TODAY?

04:04:38 >> THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

04:04:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

04:04:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

04:04:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON

04:04:49 THESE PARKING METER REGULATIONS.

04:04:51 DO OTHER CITIES HAVE THE SAME THING THAT WE ARE TALKING

04:04:54 ABOUT TODAY?

04:04:54 >> VIK BHIDE: IT'S A MIXED BAG BUT SOME CITIES DO HAVE

04:05:02 SIMILAR -- THE GENERAL TREND IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR

04:05:04 STRATEGY.

04:05:09 AND THAT IS PRICING FOR ONSTREET PARKING IN THE MANNER,

04:05:12 THE ONE -- AND RELATED STRATEGIES LIKE HOUSING

04:05:17 AFFORDABILITY.

04:05:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THE NEXT QUESTION.

04:05:22 HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THE PARKING DEPARTMENT CONTRIBUTE TO

04:05:24 THE GENERAL FUND?




04:05:24 >>VIK BHIDE: ZERO DOLLARS.

04:05:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT ONE PENNY?

04:05:31 >> NOT ONE PENNY.

04:05:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE YOU SUBSIDIZED AT ALL BY THE

04:05:35 GENERAL PUBLIC?

04:05:37 >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR.

04:05:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

04:05:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

04:05:42 WHO READ ITEM NUMBER 4? WAS IT YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES?

04:05:46 OH, IT WAS YOU, COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:05:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SECONDED IT.

04:05:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE AN MOTION FROM CITRO, SECOND

04:05:54 BY MIRANDA.

04:05:54 ROLL CALL VOTE.

04:05:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

04:05:59 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

04:06:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

04:06:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.

04:06:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO VOTE YES BUT I NEED TO

04:06:08 MAKE THIS STATEMENT THAT I AM STILL VERY UPSET THAT THE

04:06:12 CARVE OUT THAT I WAS ASKING FOR TO HELP COMMUNITY

04:06:18 ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS AA AND OTHER CHURCH ORIENTED

04:06:26 ORGANIZATIONS WAS NOT FULFILLED.

04:06:28 I HAD TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT BUT I WILL VOTE YES ON THIS.

04:06:31 >> NO.




04:06:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER AND

04:06:38 MANISCALCO VOTING NO AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.

04:06:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?

04:06:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE JUST VOTED ON AN ITEM, STRUCK DOWN

04:06:47 AN ITEM.

04:06:47 HE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.

04:06:49 NOW, VIK, WHAT YOU STATED IS NOW WE ARE INTO A POLICY

04:06:53 PHASE.

04:06:54 SO THAT MEANS SINCE MS. MCLEAN SAYS THAT THE DIRECTOR OF

04:06:58 THAT DEPARTMENT, AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR,

04:07:03 THESE THINGS, IT'S UP TO YOU, YOU SAID YOU WOULD

04:07:07 IMPLEMENT TO MAKE SURE THE CITIZENS AND ASKING THIS

04:07:11 COUNCIL TO DO.

04:07:13 AM I CORRECT IN THAT STATEMENT?

04:07:19 >>VIK BHIDE: POLICY BASED ITEMS ARE ONGOING, AND

04:07:21 GENERALLY, YES, YOUR STATEMENT IS CORRECT.

04:07:24 THE ITEM THAT OR THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED RELATIVE TO

04:07:30 YBOR CITY, WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING AND ARE WORKING ON.

04:07:33 BUT THAT ITEM, IS RELATED TO THE OVERALL ORDINANCE.

04:07:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT CONCERNS ME BUT I WILL GO IT WITH.

04:07:43 THANK YOU, SIR.

04:07:44 >>THE CLERK: I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE SECOND READING

04:07:48 AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 15, 2021 AT 9:30 A.M.

04:07:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

04:07:56 THE REST OF THIS STUFF SHOULD BE LIGHTHEARTED.




04:08:00 ITEM NUMBER 70 IS MR. SHELBY.

04:08:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT NOW,

04:08:09 MR. CHAIRMAN, OR FINISH UP THE OTHER BUSINESS?

04:08:21 INSIDE BASEBALL HOUSEKEEPING.

04:08:24 [ LAUGHTER ]

04:08:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

04:08:31 NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

04:08:32 ITEM NUMBER 71.

04:08:34 WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT FROM VIK BHIDE REGARDING HONORARY

04:08:38 SIGNS.

04:08:39 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THAT?

04:08:42 NO?

04:08:45 ALL RIGHT.

04:08:45 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

04:08:47 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

04:08:49 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:08:51 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:08:53 ITEM NUMBER 72.

04:08:55 ANOTHER VERY, VERY GOOD RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

04:08:58 GO AHEAD, SIR.

04:08:58 >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LISTENING MY DEAR

04:09:02 FRIEND WHO WAS ACTUALLY NOW ONE OF MY WIFE'S DEAR

04:09:09 FRIENDS, AND SARAH CAOUR WITH TAMPA JUSTICE CENTER OHIO

04:09:15 KNOW IS LISTENING.

04:09:16 I WAS REQUESTED BY SARAH AND OTHERS WITH THIS WONDERFUL




04:09:21 ORGANIZATION TO DO A FOLLOW-UP RESOLUTION ON LEGISLATION

04:09:25 THAT'S PENDING IN TALLAHASSEE ON WHAT'S CALLED FEES AND

04:09:29 FEIGNS REFORM, WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU

04:09:33 KNOW, WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE BUILT IN WITHIN

04:09:36 OUR SYSTEM OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND THINGS THAT WE JUST

04:09:39 TAKE FOR GRANTED, I GUESS AS FLORIDIANS AND AS AMERICANS,

04:09:42 THAT REALLY PLAY SUCH A CRITICAL ROLE IN PERPETUATING AN

04:09:46 UGLY CYCLE OF MISERY AND POVERTY AND UGLY CYCLE OF BASIC

04:09:49 DEPRIVATION FOR HUMAN BEINGS IN THE UNITED STATES.

04:09:53 THEM WAS AMENDMENT 4 WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT, WOW, I

04:09:57 DIDN'T KNOW THAT FLORIDA HAD ONE IN FOUR PEOPLE IN THE

04:09:59 UNITED STATES WHO CAN'T VOTE BECAUSE OF A FELONY

04:10:01 CONVICTION?

04:10:02 I'LL BE DARNED WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

04:10:03 AND WE MADE SOME GROUND ON THAT.

04:10:05 NOT AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD HAVE, BUT WHATEVER.

04:10:08 BUT THE OTHER ONE IS WITH REGARDS TO FEES AND FINES

04:10:12 REFORM.

04:10:12 THIS IS LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD SEEK TO END SUSPENSION OF

04:10:17 DRIVER'S LICENSES BASED UPON NONPAYMENT OF TRAFFIC FINES.

04:10:23 MIND YOU THIS IS NOT NOTHING TO DO WITH CHILD SUPPORT OR

04:10:26 OTHER ISSUES BUT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATISTICS

04:10:28 IT'S JUST DESCRIBED AN UGLY CYCLE OF HUMAN MISERY.

04:10:32 THERE WERE 2 MILLION FLORIDIANS WHO HAD A SUSPENDED

04:10:36 LICENSE ESSENTIALLY DUE TO POVERTY.




04:10:38 THINK ABOUT IT.

04:10:38 IF YOU GOT YOURSELF A DRIVING CITATION AND THEN YOU CAN'T

04:10:42 PAY IT, AND THESE ARE EXPENSIVE.

04:10:44 THESE ARE 170, 180, 150, WHATEVER, DOLLARS OFTEN JACKED

04:10:49 UP 40% BECAUSE OF PRIVATE FOR-PROFIT COLLECTION AGENCY

04:10:53 TAKES OVER THE SOLICITATION OF THIS DEBT.

04:10:57 YOU CAN'T GO TO WORK.

04:10:58 YOU CAN'T GO TO WORK AT WALGREEN'S OR CVS OR WALMART OR

04:11:02 WHEREVER IT MAY BE.

04:11:03 YOU CAN'T PICK UP YOUR KIDS FROM SCHOOL BECAUSE IF YOU

04:11:06 GET CAUGHT YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND YOU WILL HAVE A

04:11:08 CRIMINAL RECORD.

04:11:10 TALK ABOUT CREATING AN UGLY CYCLE OF POVERTY.

04:11:13 IRONICALLY, IRONICALLY, A LOT OF THESE FEES AND FINES GO

04:11:17 TO FUND OUR CLERKS OF COURT SYSTEM.

04:11:20 HOW BITTERLY IRONIC THAT SUCH AN UNJUST UGLY PUNITIVE

04:11:24 SYSTEM THAT FUND OUR CLERKS OF COURT SYSTEM.

04:11:28 IN 2017 THERE WERE 1.1 MILLION SUSPENSION NOTICES SENT TO

04:11:32 FLORIDA DRIVERS DUE TO OVERDUE -- THAT'S 1 IN 15 DRIVERS

04:11:38 IN THE GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA.

04:11:39 SO THIS IS ALL ABOUT A CYCLE OF MISERY.

04:11:42 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS BIPARTISAN.

04:11:43 THIS IS NOT PARTISAN LED LEGISLATION.

04:11:47 I KNOW THAT STATE SENATOR JEFF BRANDON, A THOUGHTFUL

04:11:51 REPUBLICAN, HAS CHAMPIONED THIS.




04:11:53 SO THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN REALLY GET ONBOARD FOR

04:11:58 SUPPORTING SOME PROGRESS.

04:12:01 AMENDMENT 4 WAS BIPARTISAN, ABOUT 60%, WELL OVER 60

04:12:06 PERCENT OF FLORIDIANS, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS GAME TO

04:12:09 SUPPORT THIS AND THIS IS BIPARTISAN, TOO.

04:12:11 BUT IT STRAFES FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE AND SO I AM PROUD TO DO

04:12:17 THIS.

04:12:17 THANK YOU, SIR.

04:12:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, THANK YOU FOR

04:12:20 BRINGING THIS UP.

04:12:22 YOU ASK YOURSELF, HOW MUCH DO YOU PUNISH SOMEBODY?

04:12:27 THEY PAY YOU A DEBTS TO SOCIETY OR SOMEBODY GETS IN

04:12:29 TROUBLE THAT LEADS TO NOT JUST LICENSE SUSPENSION BUT IN

04:12:33 GENERAL AND THEN IT'S FINES AND THEN LATE FEES.

04:12:35 I KNOW YOU ARE STRUGGLING, I KNOW WE GOT YOU DOWN BUT LET

04:12:39 ME JUST MAKE IT WORSE FOR YOU WHICH IS A RIPPLE EFFECT.

04:12:41 THEN THEY CAN'T GO TO WORK.

04:12:43 THEN THEY CAN'T DO THIS AND THAT.

04:12:44 IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

04:12:46 WHAT ABOUT FORGIVENESS?

04:12:47 WHAT ABOUT SECOND CHANCES, REAL SECOND CHANCES, NOT HERE,

04:12:51 YOU ARE TO PAY ALL THESE FINES AND FEES.

04:12:53 WHO IS IT HELPING?

04:12:54 AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO THINGS.

04:12:57 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD.




04:12:58 ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CAN WE GET A MOTION TO

04:13:00 MOVE THIS RESOLUTION?

04:13:02 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

04:13:04 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

04:13:05 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:13:06 ALL RIGHT.

04:13:07 ITEM NUMBER 73.

04:13:10 DID YOU FIND A DAY?

04:13:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:

04:13:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT WAS IT WITH, BEHIND THE SCENES

04:13:22 BASEBALL?

04:13:23 OR INSIDE BASEBALL.

04:13:24 >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S SPORTS METAPHOR DAY.

04:13:29 >> THIS IS THE DAY OF THE METAPHOR.

04:13:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

04:13:34 THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

04:13:36 ITEM 70 WAS A MOTION INITIATED BY COUNCILMEMBER

04:13:41 DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CITRO ON FEBRUARY

04:13:44 4th TO LOOK AT THE MODIFIED PROCEDURES OF ALLOWING

04:13:46 STAFF PRESENTATION TO BE MADE AT FIRST READING

04:13:49 CONSIDERATION.

04:13:50 AND THAT CERTAINLY IS A LOT OF TIME TO PRACTICE BUT IT

04:13:54 RAISES A VERY TIMELY OPPORTUNITY FOR A DISCUSSION.

04:14:01 AND BECAUSE OF THAT, COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO BE SUGGESTING

04:14:04 AND RECOMMENDING TO YOU THAT CITY COUNCIL SET A SPECIAL




04:14:08 DISCUSSION MEETING.

04:14:09 NOW, YOU HAD SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, AND YOU KNOW --

04:14:14 >>> PLEASE SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE.

04:14:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

04:14:17 OKAY.

04:14:21 YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH OBVIOUSLY THE REGULAR MEETINGS, THE

04:14:24 WORKSHOPS, AND THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS.

04:14:28 PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAD UTILIZED SPECIAL DISCUSSION

04:14:30 MEETINGS, AND I WILL JUST READ TO YOU FROM THE RECALLS

04:14:32 JUST TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH THEM.

04:14:34 A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING SHALL BE HELD FOR THE

04:14:36 PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING THE SINGLE ISSUE OF PARTICULAR

04:14:39 INTEREST.

04:14:40 IT SHALL NOT BE NECESSARY AS A CONDITION OF HOLDING A

04:14:44 SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING THAT FOUR OR MEMBER MEMBERS OF

04:14:47 COUNCIL BE PRESENT.

04:14:49 ANY MEMBER.

04:14:49 COUNCIL MAY CALL A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING AT ANY

04:14:52 DATE, TIME AND PLACE BY MOTION AND APPROVAL OF THE CITY

04:14:55 COUNCIL AT A REGULAR MEETING.

04:14:57 AND THIS IS IMPORTANT.

04:14:58 NO OFFICIAL ACTION SHALL BE TAKEN IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER

04:15:03 A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

04:15:05 SO I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A SPECIAL DISCUSSION

04:15:09 MEETING ON DEPARTMENTAL OPERATION, OTHERWISE INTERNAL




04:15:15 HOUSEKEEPING, AND OF COURSE THE DEPARTMENT IS CITY

04:15:18 COUNCIL.

04:15:20 ONE OF THE THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED PRIMARILY AS RAISED BY

04:15:24 ITEM NUMBER 70, THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AT THE MEETING, THE

04:15:28 LENGTH OF THE MEETINGS, STAFFING ISSUES, MOVING FORWARD,

04:15:32 AND HOW COUNCIL CAN BETTER COORDINATE WITHIN THE CLERK'S

04:15:35 OFFICE AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

04:15:37 MY SUGGESTION IS TO HAVE A SEPARATE DAY WITH COUNCIL FOR

04:15:43 TWO HOURS.

04:15:43 IT SHOULDN'T TAN LONGER THAN THAT.

04:15:45 MY SUGGESTION IS 9 A.M. TO 11 A.M., AND THE DATE THAT I

04:15:49 THINK WILL PROBABLY WORK FOR MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I

04:15:52 AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER IS MONDAY MORNING, MARCH

04:15:57 29th, FROM 9 TILL 11.

04:16:00 NOW, THIS IS NOT A SPECIAL CALLED, IN A OFFICIAL ACTION

04:16:03 WILL BE TAKEN.

04:16:06 IT WILL BE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND IT WILL BE

04:16:09 TELEVISED ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

04:16:12 THERE WILL BE IN A PUBLIC COMMENT.

04:16:13 IT WILL BE A NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING.

04:16:16 AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW LIVE ON

04:16:19 THE SECOND FLOOR, MINUTES WILL BE TAKEN, AND IT WILL

04:16:23 COMPLY WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW.

04:16:25 AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER WITHOUT TAKING

04:16:28 THE TIME AT A REGULAR MEETING AFTER A VERY LONG DAY TO




04:16:34 TALK WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT THE WAY CITY COUNCIL CONDUCTS

04:16:37 ITS BUSINESS.

04:16:38 IT WILL BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO A CONSENSUS AND

04:16:41 PROVIDE DIRECTION, BUT ANY ACTION THAT'S REQUIRED WILL

04:16:45 HAVE TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AT A REGULAR MEETING.

04:16:48 SO IT'S AN INFORMAL MEETING.

04:16:50 MY RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE ALL IN-PERSON IN CHAMBERS

04:16:55 WITH NO REMOTE PARTICIPATION.

04:16:57 IT WILL COMPLY WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW AND AGAIN NO

04:17:01 OFFICIAL ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.

04:17:02 IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN, I

04:17:04 STRONGLY RECOMMEND IT.

04:17:07 FITS COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND THE

04:17:11 CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE TO PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA TO ADDRESS

04:17:14 THESE KIND OF ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, IF ANY OTHER

04:17:16 COUNCILMEMBER WISHES TO DO IT, TO SUGGEST SOMETHING, I

04:17:20 CERTAINLY -- I WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT TO BRING

04:17:26 THIS ALL TOGETHER.

04:17:27 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DO

04:17:34 INTERNAL HOUSEKEEPING, AND ADDRESS THE KIND OF ISSUES

04:17:36 THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION AMONGST YOURSELVES BUT

04:17:42 DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TAKEN UP.

04:17:44 FOR INSTANCE, IF WE WERE TO DISCUSS IT TODAY, WE WOULD

04:17:47 ONLY FIRST BE GETTING INTO THE DISCUSSION AT 4:20 IN THE

04:17:49 AFTERNOON, 4:15 IN THE AFTERNOON.




04:17:51 SO MY RECOMMENDATION, COUNCIL, IN RESPONSE TO ITEM 70,

04:17:56 YES, THAT IS DONE, BUT THE PROCESS IN LOOKING INTO

04:18:00 MODIFYING THAT, JUST LIKE THE PROCESS OF MOVING STAFF

04:18:04 REPORTS TO 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON HAS TO BE FORMALIZED

04:18:07 INTO THE RULES.

04:18:08 RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A STANDING DIRECTION OF COUNCIL.

04:18:11 BUT THAT DOES HAVE TO BE FORMALIZED IF THAT'S WORKING.

04:18:15 IF IT'S WORKING GREAT.

04:18:17 IF NOT IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO -- AND OF COURSE

04:18:21 IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, SO OBVIOUSLY THE ADMINISTRATION

04:18:23 CAN BE THERE AND THE CLERK CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO BE

04:18:25 THERE, I WOULD THINK, BECAUSE THE GOAL HERE IS TO BETTER

04:18:30 COORDINATE YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS AT THE MEETING AND TO

04:18:34 BE ABLE TO ADDRESS CITY BUSINESS.

04:18:39 SO THANK YOU.

04:18:40 I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR INPUT IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE, AND

04:18:43 IF NOT I AM LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.

04:18:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, I LOVE MY JOB.

04:18:49 AND ANY MOMENT I CAN SPEND WITH THESE FINE PEOPLE, I

04:18:54 GLADLY ACCEPT.

04:18:54 MARCH 29th IS A GREAT DAY.

04:18:56 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

04:18:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE A NEAT IDEA TO

04:19:03 SIT AROUND THE TABLE AND HASH OUT SOME OF THESE IDEAS,

04:19:05 OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO THE PUN, OPEN IN THE SUNSHINE.




04:19:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT QUASH IN THIS ROOM AND THE PUBLIC

04:19:11 WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON MONITORS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

04:19:14 IT WOULD BE A NOTICED MEETING, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD

04:19:20 COMPLY WITH THE NOTICED LOCATION AND MINUTES REQUIREMENT,

04:19:25 FLORIDA STATUTES, BUT WHAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE, IT WOULDN'T

04:19:30 HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WHATEVER YOU DO DECIDE ON WOULD

04:19:33 HAVE TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL DURING A REGULAR

04:19:36 MEETING FOR YOU TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE

04:19:39 PUBLIC COMMENT TO HAVE IT AN AGENDAED ITEM.

04:19:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT IT IS -- AND I

04:19:45 KNOW WE PROBABLY ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH YOU

04:19:47 INDIVIDUALLY IN THE PAST -- BUT MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IT'S

04:19:52 NOT OUR MEETING.

04:19:55 I MEAN, WE PARTICIPATE IN IT, BUT IT'S THE PUBLIC'S

04:19:57 MEETING.

04:19:58 SO THE FACT THAT WE WOULD BE DOING THIS IN SOMEWHAT OF A

04:20:03 VACUUM AND NOT GETTING SOME PUBLIC INPUT IN TERMS OF

04:20:06 SAYING, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ARE GOING TO MODIFY THE

04:20:11 PROCEDURES THAT MIGHT HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC.

04:20:14 I AM NOT SAYING THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

04:20:16 TO CHIME IN, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE COME TO SOME SORT OF

04:20:20 CONCLUSION, OR CONCLUSION OR CONSENSUS, AS YOU SAID, BUT

04:20:26 THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT.

04:20:28 IT'S LIKE WHY WOULDN'T WE ACCEPT SOME LIMITED PUBLIC

04:20:31 INPUT, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE WE EITHER




04:20:36 BEFORE OR AFTER OR WHILE WE ARE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION?

04:20:41 WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

04:20:43 MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS WE

04:20:46 DO, YOU KNOW, DOWN HERE IN ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES.

04:20:50 THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.

04:20:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ANSWER THAT, AND I MEAN IT

04:20:55 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT BOTH TO YOU, COUNCILMAN, AND THE

04:20:58 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THAT'S

04:21:01 EXACTLY MY POINT.

04:21:02 THIS IS A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING ON THE INTERNAL

04:21:06 DEPARTMENT OPERATION.

04:21:08 GRANTED IT'S ORDER OF BUSINESS.

04:21:09 BUT ULTIMATELY, DO YOU WANT TO SPEND YOUR TIME AS WE ARE

04:21:13 TALKING ABOUT NOW TO DETERMINE HOW THINGS FROM COUNCIL

04:21:20 GETS FROM THE CLERK INTO THE RECORD, AND ALL THOSE THINGS

04:21:23 THAT DEFINITELY NEED TO BE WORKED OUT, AND CERTAINLY

04:21:27 NEEDS COUNCIL'S INPUT?

04:21:28 MOVING FORWARD WITH REGARD TO HOW -- AND OF COURSE IT'S

04:21:33 VERY DIFFICULT AND I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR

04:21:35 ACKNOWLEDGING ALL OF THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES WHO

04:21:37 MAKE THESE MEETINGS WORK.

04:21:40 I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS NO IDEA ABOUT HOW MUCH WORK

04:21:44 FROM STAFF PRECEDES THE MEETING, AND IN TALKING WITH MS.

04:21:50 FOXX-KNOWLES THIS AFTERNOON HOW MUCH WORK TAKES PLACE

04:21:53 AFTER THE MEETING IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE EVERYTHING THAT




04:21:55 HAPPENS HERE.

04:21:56 SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND IT'S A FORMAT THAT REALLY

04:21:59 ALLOWS COUNCIL IN THESE CHAMBERS TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT

04:22:02 THOSE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO TALK

04:22:05 ABOUT AT 4:30 IN THE AFTERNOON AND YOU HAVING A FULL

04:22:07 DAY'S WORK.

04:22:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.

04:22:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

04:22:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SAW WHERE MR. DINGFELDER IS GOING

04:22:18 WITH THIS BUT I THINK THIS IS BETTER AND I THINK WE NEED

04:22:21 TO DISCUSS ISSUES THAT WE FEEL ARE IMPORTANT OR WE FEEL

04:22:24 WE NEED TO BRING TO THE TABLE OR HOW WE FEEL ABOUT A

04:22:27 SUBSEQUENT MATTER.

04:22:28 AND FROM THERE IT'S JUST DISCUSSIONS.

04:22:29 AND FROM THERE, IF SOMETHING ARISES WE CAN TABLE THAT AND

04:22:33 BRING IT BACK TO THE ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETING AND HAVE

04:22:35 PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT ISSUES THAT MIGHT WANT TO PUT ON THE

04:22:38 TABLE TO HAVE THE VOTERS LOOK INTO OR WE LOOK INTO

04:22:42 CHANGING.

04:22:42 I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

04:22:44 I THINK WE NEED THAT.

04:22:45 THERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH

04:22:47 OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

04:22:48 I'M SURE OTHER VERSUS, TOO.

04:22:50 AND GREAT IDEAS SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS.




04:22:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BEFORE YOU

04:22:56 MOVE ON BECAUSE YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD POINT.

04:22:58 PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, AND PRIOR TO THIS COUNCIL, THE

04:23:03 PREVIOUS COUNCILS, THEIR WERE TIMES WHEN CITY COUNCIL'S

04:23:07 WOULD HAVE ANNUAL STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETINGS OFF-SITE.

04:23:11 I NOTICED PUBLIC MEETINGS TO ALLOW THESE SORT OF ITEMS TO

04:23:15 BE DISCUSSED.

04:23:16 PERHAPS THEY WERE DONE THROUGH LUNCH, AND WENT OVER

04:23:18 SEVERAL HOURS.

04:23:19 BUT WITH THE PANDEMIC, A LOT OF THE RULES HAVE CHANGED,

04:23:23 OBVIOUSLY.

04:23:24 BUT STILL, CITY COUNCIL, I THINK, AS A BODY, NEEDS TO

04:23:28 TAKE THE TIME TO ASSESS AND REASSESS AND GIVE DIRECTION

04:23:34 ABOUT HOW IT WANTS TO CONDUCT ITS MEETINGS, AND TO HEAR

04:23:37 EACH OTHER, EACH COUNCILMEMBER, WHO HAS THEIR OWN VERY

04:23:40 GOOD SUGGESTIONS TO BE ABLE TO SHARE.

04:23:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

04:23:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

04:23:48 I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS, AND I THINK THAT IT'S A MEETING

04:23:51 WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE FRANK ABOUT

04:23:54 CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE HAD, AND HAVE A VERY FRANK

04:23:57 DISCUSSION AND WHATNOT, AND THEN GET THE PUBLIC INPUT IN

04:24:01 CASE WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.

04:24:02 I DON'T -- BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THE LENGTH OF

04:24:07 THE MEETING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF




04:24:10 US, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS THAT WE ARE

04:24:12 DEALING WITH, AND IT'S GOT TO BE DONE IN AN EFFICIENT

04:24:16 WAY.

04:24:17 AND THERE ARE PROCEDURAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE

04:24:19 SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THINGS LIKE STAFF REPORTS,

04:24:23 ET CETERA, BUT MAKE SURE THAT HEARINGS, IF SOMEBODY IS

04:24:26 WAITING FOR AN APPEAL, OR SOMEBODY IS WAITING FOR SOME,

04:24:30 YOU KNOW, LAND USE HEARING, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, A COME

04:24:33 HEN INDICATION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THAT PEOPLE ARE GIVEN

04:24:36 PREFERENCE IN THAT REGARD AND THAT WE CAN PUT PROCEDURES

04:24:39 IN LANE TO MAKE THINGS RUN EFFICIENT, AND WHATNOT, TO

04:24:43 MAKE THINGS RUN EFFICIENT.

04:24:45 SO I THINK THAT BY DOING THAT, WE CAN MAKE COUNCIL EVEN

04:24:50 BETTER AND TURN THAT SINGLE INTO A HOME RUN.

04:24:53 ANOTHER SPORTS ANALOGY.

04:24:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T GET A GOAL.

04:24:57 WE THINK CAN'T GET A HOCKEY REFERENCE.

04:25:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I STARTED OUT AND NOW EVERYBODY IS

04:25:03 DOING SPORTS ANALOGY.

04:25:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN'T DO,

04:25:07 TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN DO.

04:25:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOING TO RAISE MY ARM AND SAY

04:25:11 ICING.

04:25:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MARCH 29 AT

04:25:15 9 A.M.?




04:25:16 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

04:25:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU GOT MY VOTE.

04:25:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, JUST TO FOLLOW

04:25:23 UP, THAT'S MONDAY, MARCH 29, OF 2021 FROM 9 A.M. TO

04:25:27 11 A.M., AND COUNCIL WILL MEET IN CHAMBERS.

04:25:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

04:25:32 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:25:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

04:25:37 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:25:38 ANY OPPOSED?

04:25:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAKE IT A HAT TRICK.

04:25:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.

04:25:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO COMPLICATE

04:25:48 THINGS --

04:25:49 >>> NO, NO, WE ARE NOT DOING.

04:25:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO SIMPLIFY THINGS, THERE WAS A

04:25:54 COMMENT MADE ABOUT SITTING AROUND A TABLE.

04:25:56 THAT IS A METAPHOR.

04:25:57 AS YOU ARE SET UP NOW, COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO PRACTICE

04:26:00 SOCIAL DISTANCING AND PUBLIC HEALTH CONSIDERATIONS WILL

04:26:03 CERTAINLY BE TAKEN INTO CONTRIBUTE ACCOUNT.

04:26:05 >> SAY ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS.

04:26:08 I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A DISCUSSION WHERE THE TABLE WAS

04:26:10 ROUND.

04:26:12 YOU KNOW?




04:26:13 THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.

04:26:15 AND IT'S STILL LIGHT OUTSIDE.

04:26:17 LET'S GO TO NEW BUSINESS.

04:26:18 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

04:26:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

04:26:22 JUST ONE ITEM FOR NOW.

04:26:25 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IT.

04:26:27 THERE IS A DOCUMENT THAT WAS PUBLISHED BY THE PLANNING

04:26:31 COMMISSION NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND IT'S CALLED DEVELOPMENT

04:26:34 IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, BEST PRACTICES ANALYSIS.

04:26:38 OBVIOUSLY, VERY RELEVANT TO A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE BEEN

04:26:44 DEALING WITH.

04:26:46 I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COME

04:26:51 OVER DURING OUR APRIL 22ND WORKSHOP AND OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE

04:26:58 THIS DOCUMENT TO US IN ADVANCE, AND COME OVER TO US AND

04:27:01 GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE DOCUMENT AND ANYTHING THAT

04:27:08 THEY CARE TO TALK ABOUT AS RELATED TO THE DOCUMENT.

04:27:10 I AM NOT GOING TO GUIDE THEIR DISCUSSION.

04:27:12 BUT I THINK IT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT.

04:27:15 AND DEFINITELY GERMANE TO WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, WHERE WE

04:27:18 ARE GOING.

04:27:19 APRIL 22ND.

04:27:22 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE GOT A TPD ISSUE AT 9:00.

04:27:25 SO I WILL SAY 9:30 IN THE MORNING.

04:27:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.




04:27:31 IN TERMS OF SCHEDULING YOUR WORKSHOP, I JUST WANT TO

04:27:34 REMIND YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, NO TIMES HAVE BEEN SET.

04:27:38 THEY'VE JUST BEEN LISTED IN ORDER.

04:27:39 BUT I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE CONTINUED

04:27:43 WORKSHOPS BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS PREVIOUSLY.

04:27:48 AND THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT.

04:27:50 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ITEMS, ONE IS ABOUT NOISE, AND THE

04:27:53 OTHER IS ABOUT WITH REGARD TO CHAPTER 14 ADDRESSING THE

04:27:57 HOURS OF OPERATION, AMPLIFIED SOUND AS WELL AS DISTANCE

04:28:00 SEPARATION.

04:28:00 SO I BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

04:28:02 SO PERHAPS MAYBE 14TH WOULD BE -- AND I DO UNDERSTAND

04:28:06 IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT JUST A REMINDER AS TO THOSE ITEMS

04:28:09 HAVE BEEN HAVING PREVIOUSLY BEEN CONTINUED BECAUSE OF

04:28:11 TIME CONSTRAINTS.

04:28:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE EXTENT OF MY MOTION IS THIS ITEM

04:28:17 WOULD FOLLOW THOSE TWO ITEMS.

04:28:19 I'LL PUT IT ON WHATEVER TIME YOU SUGGEST, MR. SHELBY, OR

04:28:22 NOT HAVE THE TIME AT ALL.

04:28:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD

04:28:25 LIKE TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AT THE SPECIAL

04:28:28 DISCUSSION MEETING.

04:28:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?

04:28:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT

04:28:34 DAY.




04:28:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AS THE THIRD

04:28:36 ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT DAY.

04:28:38 TO INVITE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF TO COMB AND

04:28:42 DISCUSS THIS DOCUMENT.

04:28:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

04:28:49 DINGFELDER FOR APRIL 22ND.

04:28:50 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

04:28:52 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:28:53 ANY OPPOSED?

04:28:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

04:28:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.

04:28:58 >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE IF I MAY.

04:29:00 A MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION TO BE AWARDED TO TAMPA BAY

04:29:03 BEST BUDDIES FOR THEIR UPCOMING FRIENDSHIP WALK.

04:29:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

04:29:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:29:09 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:29:11 ANY OPPOSED?

04:29:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.

04:29:14 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON

04:29:22 HILLSBOROUGH'S APPRENTICESHIP TO CAREER AND EMPOWERMENT

04:29:25 PROGRAM BY NEWLY-ELECTED COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS,

04:29:31 AND THIS WOULD BE A REPORT ON ANY ATTEMPTS THAT THE CITY

04:29:34 OF TAMPA CAN MAKE TO PARTNER UP WITH THE COUNTY TO

04:29:37 SUPPORT AND PROMOTE THE USE OF APPRENTICESHIPS THROUGH




04:29:41 THIS PROGRAM IT'S F IT'S FEASIBLE.

04:29:42 AND LET'S DO IT BEINGS -- WE ARE IN MARCH.

04:29:47 AND WE CAN HAVE THIS IN JULY.

04:29:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 15th WOULD BE THE FIRST

04:29:52 MEETING WE COME BACK.

04:29:55 MY BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION.

04:29:58 I AM GOING TO BE 25 YEARS OLD.

04:30:01 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR JULY 15th.

04:30:03 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

04:30:04 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

04:30:05 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:30:06 ALL RIGHT.

04:30:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

04:30:08 AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION TO EVERYBODY THAT ON MARCH

04:30:11 24th AT 6:30 P.M., THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DEMOCRATIC

04:30:15 DISABILITY CAUCUS IS HAVING AN EVENING CELEBRATING THE

04:30:17 MEMORY OF MICHAEL PHILLIPS WHICH IS GOING TO BE ONLINE

04:30:21 AND PEOPLE CAN ATTEND AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO

04:30:24 ATTEND INCLUDING ALL TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

04:30:26 IT'S OVER ON FACEBOOK.

04:30:28 I GUESS YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THE SCREEN THERE.

04:30:31 BUT MIKE PHILLIPS WAS A GREAT MAN WHO HAD SIGNIFICANT

04:30:36 PHYSICAL DISABILITIES, AND WAS JUST ONE OF THE MOST

04:30:40 REMARKABLE PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE, AND KAREN AND HER OTHER

04:30:45 SON THEY DO IN PROMOTING HIS LEGACY.




04:30:51 I WANT TO INVITE EVERYONE TO GO.

04:30:53 AND LASTLY, I WANT TO GIVE A COMMENDATION OFF-SITE THIS

04:30:56 APRIL.

04:30:56 MANY OF US REMEMBER, THIS IS THE HISTORY THING.

04:31:00 MANY OF US REMEMBER OR I GUESS READ BEING IN SCHOOL ON

04:31:04 THE BAY OF PIGS, IT WOULD BE SIXTY YEARS IN APRIL OF 2021

04:31:11 WILL BE THE BAY OF PIGS.

04:31:12 WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME LOCAL, VERY REMARKABLE MEN WHO WERE

04:31:18 BAY OF PIGS 2506 VETERANS INCLUDING COLONEL ORLANDO

04:31:22 RODRIGUEZ, LUIS COMPOZANO, MOST ALL OF WHOM, I BELIEVE,

04:31:26 WHO SERVED IN THE U.S. MILITARY WITH GREAT DISTINCTION

04:31:32 THEREAFTER.

04:31:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT WAS THE ANNIVERSARY DATE?

04:31:37 >>LUIS VIERA: I BELIEVE IT'S APRIL 17th OFF THE TOP

04:31:39 OF MY HEAD, TO DO A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.

04:31:42 AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING.

04:31:44 THIS HAS NOTHING, NOTHING TO DO WITH CUBA RELATIONS WITH

04:31:48 THE UNITED STATES, THE EMBARGO, VISITING CUBA, NOTHING

04:31:52 LIKE THIS.

04:31:52 IT'S ABOUT HONORING THE VALOR AND SACRIFICE OF THESE MEN

04:31:56 MOST OF WHOM WHO WOULD GO ON TO SERVE IN THE UNITED

04:31:58 STATES MILITARY.

04:31:59 AND THAT WOULD BE FOR -- AND I WILL GIVE THIS TO THE

04:32:00 CLERK -- SILVIO DOMINGO, LUIS COMPOZANO, CARLOS

04:32:09 RODRIGUEZ, ORLANDO RODRIGUEZ, FELIX RODRIGUEZ, TO BE




04:32:14 PRESENTED OFFLINE, AND AGAIN WITH -- SOMETIMES CUBA

04:32:18 ISSUES -- THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EMBARGO, WITH

04:32:21 PUBLIC POLICY ON CUBA, JUST TO HONOR THE VALOR OF SOME

04:32:25 GREAT PATRIOTS.

04:32:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN

04:32:36 CITRO AND A QUICK STORY. MY FAMILY WAS STILL IN CUBA IN

04:32:39 APRIL OF 61 AND MY GRANDMOTHER -- AND I HAVE THIS LITTLE

04:32:42 POCKET RADIO. SHE PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR, SO I HAVE SOME

04:32:45 OF HER THINGS, BUT THIS RADIO THAT SHE HAD, LISTENING

04:32:49 CAREFULLY, AT LOW VOLUME, BECAUSE AT THE TIME, YOU DON'T

04:32:52 WANT ANYBODY CATCHING YOU, WHATEVER, VERY CAREFUL.

04:32:57 THIS IS THE REVOLUTION WHERE SHE WOULD LISTEN TO THE NEWS

04:33:00 OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE BAY OF PIGS INVASION, THEN

04:33:03 LATER THAT YEAR MY FAMILY LEFT CUBA, AND SHOWED UP IN

04:33:07 TAMPA, AND HERE WE ARE.

04:33:09 BUT VERY GOOD.

04:33:10 COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A MOTION.

04:33:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:33:13 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:33:14 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

04:33:16 >>LUIS VIERA: REMARKABLY, NO.

04:33:18 THANK YOU.

04:33:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:33:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOTHING FOR ME, MR. CHAIR.

04:33:23 THANK YOU.




04:33:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.

04:33:25 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COMMENDATION FOR EARL C. GREEN,

04:33:27 JR., ON THE FIRST EMS WORKER FOR THE CITY, GOING TO GIVE

04:33:35 THAT TO THE FAMILY THIS WEEKEND.

04:33:39 [~DISTORTION~]

04:33:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:33:42 >>LUIS VIERA: DID YOU SAY EARL GREEN, EMS?

04:33:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EARL C GREEN.

04:33:52 >>LUIS VIERA: HE HAS A DAUGHTER REGINA.

04:33:59 I GREW UP WITH HER FAMILY.

04:34:02 AND NOT TO INTERRUPT.

04:34:07 I HAVE KNOWN REGINA, THE LATE EARL'S DAUGHTER, IF THIS IS

04:34:11 THE SAME ONE, I BELIEVE IT IS, CEREBRAL PALSY, AND GREW

04:34:14 UP BEING VERY GOOD FRIEND WITHIN MY BROTHER JUAN, AND AL

04:34:19 PASSED ON I THINK IT WAS IN DECEMBER OF THIS PAST YEAR,

04:34:23 AND WE ACTUALLY GAVE A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO

04:34:26 HIS DAUGHTER THAT WAS PRESENTED ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND AL

04:34:30 IS NOW BURIED IN FLORIDA NATIONAL CEMETERY.

04:34:32 SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN.

04:34:34 WELL DONE.

04:34:34 >>LUIS VIERA:

04:34:36 >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

04:34:38 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:34:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT, SIR.

04:34:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?




04:34:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE.

04:34:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND COUNCILMAN CITRO, I AM GOING TO

04:34:49 HAND OVER THE GAVEL.

04:34:50 I HAVE ONE ITEM.

04:34:51 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THE LEGAL

04:34:53 DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKING DIVISION TO INVESTIGATE THE

04:34:57 BENEFITS OF MOVING SECTION 27-283-11-B, COMMERCIAL

04:35:04 EQUIPMENT IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, INTO CHAPTER 18,

04:35:09 PARKING, FOR THE PURPOSE OF MORE EFFECTIVE AND UNIFORM

04:35:13 ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, USING SECTION 15-4.5,

04:35:18 THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS, TO PUT PARKING TICKETS

04:35:22 UNDER THAT CHAPTER.

04:35:23 THIS IS GOING TO BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED

04:35:26 BUSINESS FOR APRIL 15, 2021.

04:35:28 AND THE REASON IS, IN WEST TAMPA, PEOPLE PARK THEIR SEMIS

04:35:32 ALL OVER THE PLACE.

04:35:35 PEOPLE PARK COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT ALL OVER THE PLACE.

04:35:38 SINCE I HAVE BEEN ELECTED I HAVE BEEN GETTING CALLS.

04:35:40 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS BEEN GETTING CALLS.

04:35:41 EVERYBODY HAS BEEN GETTING CALLS.

04:35:43 AND WE HAVE GOT TO SAY, WELL, WE'LL TELL TPD.

04:35:46 AND THERE'S ALWAYS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.

04:35:49 SO IN ORDER TO GET THESE THINGS UNDER CONTROL AND PROTECT

04:35:51 THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM MAKING THIS MOTION.

04:35:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.




04:35:56 >> SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

04:36:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU JUST VERIFY?

04:36:02 BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, CHAPTER -- I THOUGHT I

04:36:05 HEARD YOU SAY CHAPTER 18.

04:36:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO, CHAPTER 15.

04:36:09 PARKING.

04:36:10 AND THEN SECTION 15-4.5 AND I HAVE THE MOTION WRITTEN OUT

04:36:15 FOR CLARITY.

04:36:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

04:36:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY ALSO I APPRECIATE MR.

04:36:22 MANISCALCO SAYING THAT.

04:36:23 IT USED TO BE WAY BACK THAT WE HAD THE ENFORCEMENT

04:36:27 ABILITY TO PUT A PLACARD THAT WOULD STICK TO THE

04:36:29 WINDSHIELD THAT TELLS YOU THAT IF IT SAW THAT VEHICLE

04:36:35 PARKING IN THE CITY IN THE SAME MANNER THAT THAT VEHICLE

04:36:38 WOULD BE TOWED AWAY.

04:36:40 WE HAVE A SICKNESS ALL OVER THE CITY.

04:36:42 AND THERE'S A SEMI ON ARMENIA BETWEEN CHERRY AND PALMETTO

04:36:49 THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR THREE DAYS.

04:36:52 JUST A TRACTOR.

04:36:53 BUT IT'S A DISEASE THAT'S GOING ON ALL OVER THE CITY.

04:36:56 ONE DAY, ONE CHILD IS GOING TO GO AROUND THAT SEMI OUT

04:37:00 INTO THE STREET, AND YOU CANNOT SEE THAT CHILD.

04:37:03 THANK YOU.

04:37:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.




04:37:07 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

04:37:08 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:37:10 ANY OPPOSED?

04:37:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.

04:37:12 AND JUST BEFORE WE GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, I

04:37:14 HAVE GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM A FRIEND NOW AND THIS IS

04:37:18 DISTURBING.

04:37:19 I HEARD A RUMOR THAT THEY MAY BE DEMOLISHING THE JACKSON

04:37:22 HOUSE.

04:37:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE WE GO WITH RUMORS AGAIN.

04:37:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEE?

04:37:28 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

04:37:29 CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

04:37:32 GUDES, CITRO.

04:37:33 ALL IN FAVOR?

04:37:33 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

04:37:36 (MEETING ADJOURNED)

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