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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 15, 2021
9:00 A.M.



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09:03:07 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

09:03:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

09:03:12 I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

09:03:16 FOR THE INVOCATION, I'D LIKE TO YIELD TO -- I SEE BISHOP TOM

09:03:25 SCOTT.

09:03:26 IS IT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO HAS THE INVOCATION TODAY?

09:03:30 YES, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:03:31 GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:03:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]

09:03:40 TOM SCOTT IS HERE TODAY TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.

09:03:43 I'M HONORED TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL -- WE ALL KNOW HE SERVED

09:03:51 AS CITY COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

09:03:52 HE ALSO SERVED AS A CITY COUNCIL CHAIR.

09:03:55 AND I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH TOM SINCE HE'S A DEDICATED

09:03:59 INDIVIDUAL.

09:04:00 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.

09:04:02 HE HAS COURAGE, LEADERSHIP, HONESTY.




09:04:05 HOWEVER HE'S VERY COMPASSIONATE, AND HE TELLS YOU ITEMS THAT

09:04:09 ARE ON THE AGENDA AND WORKS WITH YOU TO TRY TO AVOID ANY

09:04:16 DISRUPTION OF THE COUNCIL.

09:04:18 HE LED THE COUNCIL AND HE WAS A FANTASTIC CHAIRMAN, JUST

09:04:21 LIKE HE IS A VERY GOOD HUMAN BEING.

09:04:23 I'VE KNOWN TOM FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND CAN I ONLY SAY ONE

09:04:27 THING.

09:04:28 GOD BLESS ME FOR BEING HIS FRIEND BECAUSE I'M VERY HONORED

09:04:32 TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A GOOD HUMAN BEING IS, AND THAT'S WHAT

09:04:35 DEACON TOM SCOTT IS WHO HE IS.

09:04:37 TOM, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

09:04:39 PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE

09:04:42 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

09:04:44 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND TO ALL THIS BODY.

09:04:48 IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

09:04:50 MR. MIRANDA, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND FOR INVITING

09:04:52 ME TO COME SHARE.

09:04:53 I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

09:04:58 I'VE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE NOW, SO YOU'RE ALWAYS IN MY PRAYERS

09:05:01 AS YOU LEAD THIS CITY, YOU WORK WITH CITY GOVERNMENT.

09:05:05 WE PRAY THE BEST FOR YOU AND ALL THAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU

09:05:09 MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE CITY.

09:05:10 THANK YOU AGAIN.

09:05:11 CHARLIE, THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND WORDS.

09:05:13 I WAS WONDERING AT ONE TIME WHO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.




09:05:17 THANK YOU ANYWAY.

09:05:19 SHALL WE PRAY?

09:05:20 FATHER, WE ALWAYS REMINDED OF WHAT YOUR WORD TELLS US, AND

09:05:24 THAT IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN ALL OF OUR WAYS, AND THAT YOU

09:05:27 WILL GIVE DIRECTION TO OUR PATH.

09:05:30 YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT OUR STEPS HAVE BEEN ORDERED BY YOU,

09:05:33 AND SO TODAY WE PAUSE TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR

09:05:38 THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED US WITH.

09:05:42 WHAT A MARVELOUS DAY IT IS TO BE ABLE TO COME IN YOUR

09:05:45 PRESENCE AND TO RECOGNIZE YOU.

09:05:47 THANK YOU.

09:05:47 THANK YOU FOR OUR NATION, FOR OUR COUNTRY.

09:05:50 THANK YOU FOR WHAT SHE STANDS FOR.

09:05:54 THANK YOU, GOD, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED BY THE

09:05:57 PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE.

09:06:00 TODAY, WE PRAY FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL.

09:06:03 WE PRAY FOR THE MAYOR.

09:06:06 WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO LEAD VARIOUS AREAS OF OUR GOVERNMENT

09:06:10 THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

09:06:11 TODAY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR

09:06:14 LEADERSHIP.

09:06:14 WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR WISDOM.

09:06:17 AND NOW WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL GUIDE THEM, YOU WILL GUIDE

09:06:21 THEM AND YOU WILL GIVE THEM WISDOM TO MAKE PRUDENT AND SOUND

09:06:25 DECISIONS FOR THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY,




09:06:29 TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:06:30 NOT ONLY DO WE PRAY FOR THEM TODAY, BUT WE PRAY, LORD, TODAY

09:06:35 WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH SO MANY CHALLENGES, WITH RACIAL

09:06:40 INJUSTICE AND UNREST IN OUR NATION, WITH THE PANDEMIC IN OUR

09:06:45 NATION AND OUR WORLD, PEOPLE WHO ARE HUNGRY AND STARVING, WE

09:06:51 PRAY FOR THEM AND FOR YOUR MERCY UPON THEM.

09:06:54 NOW WE LEAVE IT ALL IN YOUR HAND, AND WE ASK AGAIN YOU BLESS

09:06:59 ALL THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL DOES TODAY THAT IT BE DONE IN

09:07:02 YOUR NAME AND TO YOUR GLORY, AMEN.

09:07:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.

09:07:08 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:07:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BISHOP SCOTT.

09:07:19 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AS ALWAYS.

09:07:21 HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.

09:07:23 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

09:07:24 >> GOOD SEEING YOU.

09:07:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

09:07:27 >> VIERA?

09:07:28 GUDES?

09:07:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

09:07:30 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

09:07:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

09:07:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

09:07:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

09:07:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.




09:07:37 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

09:07:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:07:40 HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JOE GRECO, OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS.

09:07:45 >> HEAR, HEAR.

09:07:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GIVE THAT SHOUT-OUT.

09:07:47 LET'S GO TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM TO

09:07:51 THE AGENDA.

09:07:51 I HAVE A COUPLE OF --

09:07:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:07:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, YEAH, MR. SHELBY.

09:07:57 GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:07:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

09:07:59 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

09:08:00 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

09:08:02 JUST A REMINDER, FOR THE RECORD, TODAY IS THURSDAY, APRIL

09:08:05 15th, 2021.

09:08:07 WE'RE HERE AT OLD CITY HALL.

09:08:09 DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY AND THIS MEETING OF

09:08:11 THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BEING CONDUCTED LIVE WITH AN

09:08:15 IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

09:08:18 HOWEVER, IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS, MEMBERS

09:08:21 OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY

09:08:24 THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA

09:08:27 STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, OR

09:08:30 CMT.




09:08:31 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNCIL'S

09:08:34 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION

09:08:37 2020-225 AND AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020-490 AND

09:08:44 2021-241.

09:08:46 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO

09:08:50 WATCH, LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640

09:08:53 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET LIVE STREAMING

09:08:57 AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD, LIVESTREAM.

09:09:03 AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND

09:09:08 ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE USING CMT AND ALTERNATE METHODS SUCH

09:09:12 AS WRITTEN COMMENTS BY INTERNET OR WEB AT

09:09:15 TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.

09:09:18 WRITTEN COMMENTS BY E-MAIL.

09:09:20 WRITTEN COMMENTS BY U.S. MAIL.

09:09:22 SPEAKING REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE OF CMT,

09:09:27 AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY PREREGISTERING.

09:09:30 THE INFORMATION TO FIND OUT ABOUT HOW TO PARTICIPATE IS ON

09:09:33 THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL, ONE

09:09:40 WORD.

09:09:40 NOW, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY BUT DON'T

09:09:45 HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY,

09:09:49 THEY ARE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO COME TO OLD CITY HALL DURING THE

09:09:53 MEETING AND PARTICIPATE USING TECHNOLOGY THAT'S MADE

09:09:56 AVAILABLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL AT 315 EAST

09:10:00 KENNEDY BOULEVARD.




09:10:01 AND THAT IS BOTH FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

09:10:05 AND FOR THE SECOND READINGS AND HEARINGS, THE PUBLIC

09:10:08 HEARINGS THAT TAKE PLACE.

09:10:10 PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF MASKS AND DISTANCING INSIDE THIS

09:10:14 BUILDING ARE REQUIRED.

09:10:16 AGAIN, THE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND

09:10:19 PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC HEARINGS IS ALSO ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S

09:10:24 WEB PAGE.

09:10:25 SPECIFIC COMMENTS TO A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD WHEN IT

09:10:28 APPEARS ON THE AGENDA.

09:10:29 GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS HEARD AT THE START OF THE MEETING

09:10:31 PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S POLICY.

09:10:33 NOW, PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED TIMELY BY MAIL, E-MAIL, WEB,

09:10:39 OR CMT WILL BE AFFORDED EQUAL CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC

09:10:43 COMMENTS WERE MADE IN PERSON.

09:10:44 NOW, THE WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED HAVE BEEN

09:10:48 DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE

09:10:52 HEARINGS WILL BE MADE PART OF THE PERMANENT RECORD OF THE

09:10:55 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.

09:10:56 MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS THIS MORNING.

09:10:58 THANK YOU.

09:10:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:10:59 COUNCILMAN VIERA IS RUNNING JUST A FEW MINUTES LATE, BUT HE

09:11:04 WILL BE HERE AT ANY MOMENT.

09:11:05 BEFORE WE APPROVE THE AGENDA, JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS OR




09:11:11 QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

09:11:12 IN REGARDS TO THE STAFF REPORTS, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW

09:11:16 BIG-TICKET ITEMS.

09:11:20 DO WE NEED STAFF FOR ALL OF THESE OR CAN WE RELEASE STAFF?

09:11:26 BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMOS.

09:11:28 WE HAVE MEMOS FROM BRAD BAIRD ON 49, 50, 51.

09:11:32 >>BILL CARLSON: 57 ALSO, THEY DECIDED TO RESCHEDULE IT FOR

09:11:37 MAY 27.

09:11:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE THAT COMING UP HERE.

09:11:40 CAN WE RELEASE STAFF FOR ANY OF THESE OR DO WE NEED THEM,

09:11:45 CONSIDERING THEY SENT MEMOS ALREADY.

09:11:47 QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?

09:11:49 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

09:11:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:11:53 IN REGARD -- I HAD ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM.

09:11:57 I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF ON WHICH IS 22.

09:12:02 THAT'S -- I'D JUST LIKE TO PULL THAT AND PUT IT IN UNDER

09:12:07 STAFF REPORTS.

09:12:11 I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR THEM THAT NEVER REALLY GOT

09:12:16 COMPLETELY ANSWERED.

09:12:18 AND THEN IN REGARD TO THE OTHER ITEMS, I THINK IT WOULD BE,

09:12:23 EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE MEMORANDUMS ON 50 AND 51, I THINK IT

09:12:33 WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM MR. BAIRD.

09:12:36 HUGE ITEMS, 65 MILLION AND 20 MILLION.

09:12:38 SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.




09:12:46 I DON'T SEE ANY OTHERS THAT I NEEDED STAFF.

09:12:52 WELL, 54.

09:12:53 THIS NAMING ISSUE KEEPS DRAGGING ON AND ON.

09:12:57 I THINK I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF ON 54.

09:13:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL KEEP OCEA WYNN, BRAD BAIRD ON FOR

09:13:04 THOSE ITEMS.

09:13:05 >>DAVID CARR: AND 52, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR HIM TO SPEND A

09:13:12 MINUTE.

09:13:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL KEEP ROB ROSNER ON.

09:13:16 49, BRAD BAIRD ITEM.

09:13:23 BAIRD, ROSNER, AND WYNN.

09:13:30 THEN EVERYBODY ELSE, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, CAN GO.

09:13:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OBVIOUSLY, 58.

09:13:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'RE SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT

09:13:48 THIS.

09:13:49 WHY DON'T WE KEEP EVERYBODY HERE.

09:13:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

09:13:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, DID YOU ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE

09:13:54 OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA TO TAKE THE

09:13:57 ITEMS THAT ARE TO BE CONTINUED --

09:13:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A WHOLE LIST.

09:14:01 I JUST GOT STARTED.

09:14:02 F.D.O.T.'S PRESENTATION AT LUNCH -- AFTER LUNCH AT 1:30.

09:14:07 WE'RE GOING TO BREAK AT 12.

09:14:08 ITEM 56 IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED TO MAY 6.




09:14:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT HAS TO BE BY A MOTION AND VOTE?

09:14:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE 56 TO MAY 6.

09:14:19 MOTION BY CITRO.

09:14:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, 56 TO CONTINUE.

09:14:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO, SECOND

09:14:26 FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CONTINUE 56 TO MAY 6.

09:14:29 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:14:33 AYE.

09:14:33 ITEM NUMBER 57, IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO -- MAY 27.

09:14:36 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:14:39 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:14:39 AYE.

09:14:39 A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM 59 AS IT WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED

09:14:44 TODAY.

09:14:44 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:14:46 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:14:47 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:14:50 ALL RIGHT.

09:14:50 COUNCILMAN VIERA IS HERE, SO WE -- I THINK WE GOT EVERYTHING

09:14:57 COVERED.

09:14:57 WE'LL START WITH THE AGENDA.

09:14:58 ITEM NUMBER 1.

09:15:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME.

09:15:02 A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.

09:15:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.




09:15:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:15:09 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:15:10 AYE.

09:15:10 OKAY?

09:15:14 OKAY.

09:15:14 COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 1.

09:15:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

09:15:19 APOLOGIES FOR BEING LATE.

09:15:20 I HAD A FUNNY MISHAP THIS MORNING, WHICH I WON'T GET INTO,

09:15:23 LEST I EMBARRASS MYSELF.

09:15:26 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE MY DEAR FRIEND.

09:15:29 I WISH SHE WAS HERE WITH US LIVE.

09:15:31 MS. PHYLLIS GUTHMAN.

09:15:33 PHYLLIS HAS PROVIDED DISABILITY INFORMATION RESOURCES AND

09:15:36 COMMUNICATIONS FOR SPECIAL NEEDS MINISTRIES, SPECIAL NEEDS

09:15:39 SPORTS, RECREATION, ART ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL AS STATEWIDE

09:15:42 AND LOCAL DISABILITY AGENCIES FOR 18 YEARS.

09:15:45 SHE LAUNCHED DISABILITY RESOURCE HUB AS A VEHICLE TO

09:15:49 DISSEMINATE THESE RESOURCES.

09:15:51 MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE REASON I INVITED HER HERE TODAY FOR

09:15:55 AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH IS BECAUSE PHYLLIS IS NOT ONLY AN

09:15:59 INVOLVED PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY, SHE MOTHERED MATTHEW, A

09:16:02 CHILD WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

09:16:04 AS WE ALL KNOW, IT IS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH.

09:16:06 IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT MONTH TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND




09:16:10 I'LL LET OUR FRIEND PHYLLIS PROCEED WITH HER PRESENTATION.

09:16:14 GO AHEAD.

09:16:16 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:16:19 GOOD MORNING AND MANY THANKS TO THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR

09:16:23 THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHAT AUTISM MONTH MEANS TO ME.

09:16:27 MY HUSBAND AND I RECEIVED A DIAGNOSIS OF AUTISM SPECTRUM

09:16:30 DISORDER FOR OUR FIRSTBORN CHILD 23 YEARS AGO.

09:16:35 WE WERE DEVASTATED, NOT BY THE LABEL.

09:16:38 WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT HIS DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THAT

09:16:41 APPOINTMENT, BUT BY THE MANNER IN WHICH THE PROFESSIONAL

09:16:44 THAT CONDUCTED THE EVALUATION DELIVERED THE INFORMATION,

09:16:48 WHICH WAS WITH A COMPLETE LACK OF CARING.

09:16:53 WE COULD NOT ASK QUESTIONS OR EXPRESS OUR EMOTIONS.

09:16:55 WE WERE PROVIDED WITH NO RESOURCES.

09:16:59 I IMMEDIATELY SENT A LETTER TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE PROGRAM,

09:17:03 WHICH SORT OF DATES ME BECAUSE BACK THEN WE DID SEND LETTERS

09:17:07 AND NOT SHOOT OFF E-MAILS.

09:17:09 THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ACTS OF ADVOCACY AS A PARENT.

09:17:13 ADDITIONALLY, OUR SON HAS CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS.

09:17:17 WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO FALL APART.

09:17:19 WE GOT TO WORK BY DEVELOPING UNDERSTANDING AND LOADS OF

09:17:23 PATIENCE WITH EACH OTHER, OUR SON, AND STAKEHOLDERS.

09:17:27 WE LEARNED HOW TO MANAGE HIS HEALTH AND SOUGHT STRATEGIES TO

09:17:31 HELP HIM LEARN AND BECOME INDEPENDENT.

09:17:33 WE HAVE A NEUROTYPICAL CHILD AS WELL.




09:17:37 SHE IS CURRENTLY A UNIVERSITY STUDENT.

09:17:40 IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR DESIRE FOR THEM TO REACH THEIR

09:17:43 INDIVIDUAL, FULL POTENTIALS.

09:17:46 AS A FAMILY IMPACTED BY AUTISM EVERY DAY, WE ARE BEYOND

09:17:50 AWARENESS.

09:17:51 WHAT IS MEANINGFUL NOW IS ACCEPTANCE.

09:17:54 WE BELIEVE IN EMPHASIZING WHAT OUR SON HAS IN COMMON WITH

09:17:58 HIS PEERS INSTEAD OF THE DIFFERENCES BY FOCUSING ON HIS

09:18:02 STRENGTHS INSTEAD OF DEFICITS.

09:18:04 TO BE HONEST, HAVING AN AFRICAN AMERICAN SON HAS AT TIMES

09:18:10 BEEN MORE CONCERNING THAN AUTISM.

09:18:12 HIS RACE AND DISABILITY COMBINED CREATES ADDITIONAL

09:18:16 BARRIERS, ACCEPTANCE AND INCLUSION, NEARLY EVERY DAY WE ARE

09:18:22 ALL REMINDED OF THE LACK OF EQUALITY AND EQUITY IN OUR

09:18:27 SOCIETY.

09:18:27 I AM THE GRANDDAUGHTER, DAUGHTER, SISTER, NIECE, AND WIFE OF

09:18:33 FINE BLACK PROFESSIONAL MEN WHO HAVE BEEN HARASSED AND

09:18:37 DISRESPECTED SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.

09:18:41 THE FEAR IS REAL.

09:18:42 I AM A PARENT OF A YOUNG MAN WITH AUTISM.

09:18:48 I DO NOT KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO EXPERIENCE LIFE AS A PERSON

09:18:50 WITH AUTISM.

09:18:51 I DO KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE MARGINALIZED AS AN AFRICAN

09:18:56 AMERICAN, AS A WOMAN, AND AS A PARENT OF A CHILD WITH

09:18:59 DISABILITIES.




09:18:59 I DO KNOW WHAT BLATANT DISCRIMINATION AND BEING PERCEIVED AS

09:19:05 INFERIOR FEELS LIKE.

09:19:07 I DO KNOW HOW EXHAUSTING IT IS TO COPE WITH CONSTANT

09:19:10 MICROAGGRESSIONS.

09:19:12 AND I ALSO KNOW THAT ACCEPTANCE OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF

09:19:16 ABILITY, GENDER, CULTURE, HAIR TEXTURE AND SKIN COLOR MUST

09:19:22 BE ACHIEVED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

09:19:26 THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY, CHILDREN,

09:19:30 INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, SENIORS, AND UNDERSERVED

09:19:34 MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES MUST BE VALUED IN ORDER TO CREATE A

09:19:40 SOCIETY THAT IS STRONGER DUE TO AND NOT DESPITE DIVERSITY.

09:19:47 ACCEPTANCE IS INCLUSION.

09:19:48 INCLUSION IS DIVERSITY.

09:19:50 AND DIVERSITY IS BEAUTIFUL.

09:19:52 INCLUSION MEANS THAT ALL PEOPLE GENUINELY --

09:19:58 THEY ARE NOT JUST IN THE CLASSROOM, AT THE PLAYGROUND, AT A

09:20:02 PLACE OF WORSHIP, BUT ARE VALUED, CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF

09:20:06 THESE COMMUNITIES.

09:20:07 LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD AND CREATING EQUITY REQUIRES

09:20:12 EFFORT BY ALL OF US.

09:20:14 MY PRAYER IS THAT MY CHILDREN'S INDIVIDUAL UNIQUE ABILITIES

09:20:19 AND TALENTS ALLOW THEM TO PARTICIPATE AND OPERATE IN THEIR

09:20:23 PURPOSE SO THEY CAN BE MEANINGFUL AND PRODUCTIVE LIVES THAT

09:20:28 THEY CHOOSE.

09:20:29 THE REALITY OF AN INCLUSIVE SOCIETY THAT BOTH MY CHILDREN




09:20:33 WILL BE ACCEPTED IN IS MY HOPE AND COMFORT IN WHAT I SEEK AS

09:20:40 A PARENT.

09:20:41 THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

09:20:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:20:44 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:20:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

09:20:46 PHYLLIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING YOUR HEART IN PUBLIC.

09:20:51 I ALWAYS SAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH ISSUES THAT ARE

09:20:54 SO PERSONAL TO YOU, AND YOU TALK ABOUT THEM IN PUBLIC,

09:20:59 YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS SURE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET A RECEPTIVE

09:21:02 AUDIENCE OR MAYBE AS RECEPTIVE OF AN AUDIENCE AS CORRESPONDS

09:21:07 WITH YOUR HEART.

09:21:08 I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS RECEPTION HERE TODAY, AND

09:21:12 THAT I APPRECIATE YOU TALKING NOT ONLY ABOUT DISABILITIES

09:21:15 BUT RACE AND GENDER AND HOW THOSE THINGS OFTEN COME

09:21:17 TOGETHER.

09:21:18 YOU AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES

09:21:22 INVOLVING NOT ONLY SPECIAL NEEDS AND DISABILITIES, BUT

09:21:25 RACIAL JUSTICE AND EQUITY ISSUES.

09:21:27 I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH OUR EQUAL JUSTICE

09:21:30 INITIATIVE LYNCHING MARKER MEMORIAL AS WELL AS OTHER

09:21:34 EFFORTS, AND YOU JUST HAVE A GREAT HEART.

09:21:37 AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

09:21:38 AND, YOU KNOW, MY OLDEST BROTHER JUAN IS DEVELOPMENTALLY

09:21:46 DISABLED AND INTELLECTUALLY DISABLED.




09:21:48 SO I KNOW ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

09:21:49 JUAN IS GOING TO BE 50 THIS YEAR IN MAY.

09:21:53 MY MOM WANTED TO THROW A BIG PARTY FOR HIM BECAUSE IT'S A

09:21:57 BIG DEAL AND, OF COURSE, NOW WITH COVID WE KIND OF GOT TO

09:22:00 SCALE THAT BACK.

09:22:01 BUT WHEN YOU'RE A PARENT RAISING A CHILD WITH SPECIAL NEEDS

09:22:06 AND YOU GET THAT DIAGNOSIS, WHETHER IT'S DOWN SYNDROME, AN

09:22:10 INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY, AUTISM, A LOT OF THE DREAMS AND

09:22:15 HOPES THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOUR CHILD THAT A LOT OF PARENTS

09:22:18 HAVE AND YOU THINK TO YOURSELF, MAYBE MY CHILD IS GOING TO

09:22:21 BE A U.S. SENATOR, THE NEXT BILL GATES, THE NEXT WADE BOGGS,

09:22:27 WHATEVER IT IS, SUDDENLY THEY ARE REPLACED WITH A DESIRE FOR

09:22:31 DIGNITY AND RESPECT AND THINKING IS MY CHILD GOING TO BE

09:22:34 EXPLOITED, ABUSED WHEN THEY ARE 20.

09:22:36 ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE INDEPENDENT?

09:22:38 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE, ET CETERA?

09:22:39 THOSE ARE FEARS THAT SOCIETY DOESN'T DO ENOUGH TO

09:22:43 UNDERSTAND.

09:22:44 WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT CULTURALLY BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE MY

09:22:48 BROTHER JUAN AND LIKE YOUR SON MATTHEW ARE ALL TOO OFTEN THE

09:22:55 BUTT OF JOKES AND SHAME ON THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT.

09:22:56 WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE.

09:22:56 JUST LOOK AT OUR LEGISLATURE AND MEDICAID WAIVER AND

09:23:00 DIFFERENT ISSUES LIKE THAT.

09:23:01 LIKE OUR FRIEND KAREN CLAY ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THAT.




09:23:03 WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT ON A ONE-TO-ONE BASIS.

09:23:06 WHILE WE HAVE GOTTEN BETTER IN THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS, THANK

09:23:10 GOD -- AND I DO MEAN THANK GOD FOR THAT -- WE STILL HAVE

09:23:12 MILES TO GO IN SO MANY WAYS.

09:23:14 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WEARING YOUR HEART ON YOUR SLEEVE AND

09:23:17 FOR SHOWING US THAT HERE TODAY.

09:23:19 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

09:23:20 I'LL HUG YOU LATER.

09:23:21 IF I COULD DO IT NOW, YOU KNOW I WOULD.

09:23:23 GOD BLESS YOU.

09:23:25 >> FULL HUGS TO YOU.

09:23:27 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:23:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING

09:23:31 THIS WONDERFUL LADY HERE TODAY.

09:23:33 I REFLECT BACK ON SOME FAMILY MEMBERS IN MY HOME.

09:23:37 SHE TOUCHED ON SOMETHING.

09:23:40 WHEN I LOOK AT BEING A MAN OF COLOR AND SOMETIMES -- THAT'S

09:23:48 A LOT OF TIMES IN MY COMMUNITY WHEN A YOUNG PERSON OR A

09:23:52 CHILD HAS A DISABILITY -- PEOPLE FEEL THEY DON'T HAVE AN

09:23:59 OPPORTUNITY.

09:24:01 AS BEING A COACH, CAN I SEE THAT.

09:24:05 I TELL THE PARENT, BRING THEM ANYWAY.

09:24:08 WE'LL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE.

09:24:11 IT IS THE MOST JOYFUL THING YOU CAN HAVE WHEN A KID WANTS TO

09:24:16 BE A PART OF SOMETHING, WANTS TO BE EQUAL.




09:24:20 SAY THAT, I HOPE THAT FOLKS ARE LISTENING THAT WE CAN HAVE

09:24:22 PROGRAMS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN

09:24:24 COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THEIR CHILD HAS A PROBLEM.

09:24:31 THEY SAY, OH, THEY'LL GROW OUT OF IT.

09:24:34 NOTHING IS WRONG.

09:24:34 MY KID IS NOT TALKING.

09:24:36 WHEN THEY GET TO BE TWO, THREE YEARS OLD, THEY ARE NOT

09:24:39 SOCIALIZING.

09:24:39 THEY ARE FEARFUL THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG BUT THEY ARE AFRAID

09:24:41 TO TAKE THE STEPS TO SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE CHILD.

09:24:46 FINALLY, THEY BREAK DOWN AND GET MAD WITH FAMILY MEMBERS

09:24:49 WHEN YOU TELL THEM YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR CHILD TO A

09:24:53 SPECIALIST TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

09:24:55 I HAD TO DO THAT ONCE.

09:24:56 SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT MS. PHYLLIS IS TALKING ABOUT AND HOPING

09:24:59 THAT WE CAN GET PROGRAMS IN SCHOOLS, WHEN THOSE KIDS ARE

09:25:04 GOING TO THE DOCTORS, THE DOCTOR CAN SAY GET THOSE KIDS TO

09:25:08 SEE SOMEBODY, TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM.

09:25:11 WHEN A KID IS NOT SOCIALIZING AT THAT SMALL AGE, THERE'S A

09:25:14 PROBLEM SOMEWHERE.

09:25:15 SOMETHING IS GOING ON, ESPECIALLY IN MY COMMUNITY, WE'RE

09:25:19 FEARFUL.

09:25:20 THE KIDS GROWING UP AND GOES THROUGH ALL KIND OF ISSUES AT

09:25:24 SCHOOL, BEING PICKED ON.

09:25:27 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, MS. PHYLLIS.




09:25:30 I'M HOPING WE CAN FOSTER SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM WITHIN THE

09:25:33 CITY.

09:25:34 I'M HAPPY THAT, EAST TAMPA REGIONAL COMPLEX IS COMING ON

09:25:38 BOARD.

09:25:39 I SAY THAT IS GOING TO HELP ALL OF EAST TAMPA.

09:25:44 IT IS THE EAST TAMPA REGIONAL COMPLEX.

09:25:46 IT WILL HAVE AN AUTISM PARK, MR. VIERA.

09:25:50 YOU KNOW HOW THAT WILL HELP A LOT OF OUR KIDS WITH

09:25:52 PROGRAMMING IN THAT COMMUNITY.

09:25:54 PARENTS -- WHEN THEY TAKE THEIR KID TO THE PARK AND BE ABLE

09:26:01 TO UTILIZE THE GIFT AND JEWELS THERE THAT WILL BE THERE FOR

09:26:04 THE KIDS.

09:26:05 AGAIN, I FEEL IT.

09:26:06 I UNDERSTAND IT.

09:26:07 I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR

09:26:09 COMMUNITY, ESPECIAL OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TO TAKE THAT

09:26:13 STEP TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

09:26:16 AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:26:17 AGAIN, MR. VIERA, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, SIR.

09:26:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

09:26:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

09:26:24 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THANK YOU.

09:26:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS.

09:26:27 YOU MENTIONED THE DISABILITY AND AUTISM PARK IN EAST TAMPA.

09:26:31 I THINK IT WAS OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AFTER THE ELECTION




09:26:34 OF CHAIR, HAD RACHEL BARCELONA HERE SPEAKING FOR AUTISM

09:26:38 AWARENESS MONTH.

09:26:39 YOU WENT, I'D LOVE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE PARKS IN MY

09:26:42 DISTRICT.

09:26:43 LOOK WHAT YOU DID WITH HARD WORK.

09:26:45 I SAY THIS IN A POSITIVE WAY, WRECKING BALL WAY OF DOING

09:26:49 THINGS.

09:26:49 I SAY THAT IN A GOOD WAY.

09:26:51 YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA STARTING THREE AND A HALF YEARS

09:26:57 AGO UNDER MAYOR BUCKHORN BEGAN THE AUTISM FRIENDLY CITY

09:27:00 INITIATIVE WHICH BEGAN WITH MAKING SURE THAT CITY EMPLOYEES

09:27:04 AND DEPARTMENTS WERE TRAINED IN ACCESSIBILITY AND ISSUES

09:27:11 LIKE THAT.

09:27:12 IN 2017, WE GOT DESIGN FUNDING FOR THE FIRST CITY AUTISM,

09:27:17 100% CITY-FUNDED AUTISM FRIENDLY PARK IN NEW TAMPA.

09:27:21 LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WE PASSED MONEY FOR THE EAST TAMPA PARK

09:27:26 IMPROVEMENTS THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHICH

09:27:29 IS AN ALL ABILITIES, DISABILITIES FRIENDLY PARK AND FOR

09:27:33 CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW TAMPA DISABILITY AND AUTISM FRIENDLY

09:27:36 PARK.

09:27:36 AND WE'VE HAD, MacFARLANE PARK AND SO MANY DIFFERENT

09:27:40 IMPROVEMENTS.

09:27:41 ALSO TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE EVERY PARK, CITY PARK HAS AT

09:27:44 LEAST ONE PIECE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT IS DISABILITY

09:27:49 FRIENDLY AND ACCESSIBLE.




09:27:50 SO LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT MEAN A LOT.

09:27:52 THERE IS A SAYING WHICH IS IF BY GOING A FEW STEPS YOU CAN

09:27:56 WALK A MILE, I'LL TAKE THOSE FEW STEPS ANYTIME.

09:28:00 WE'RE TAKING SOME BIG STEPS SO THAT FAMILIES LIKE MY FAMILY,

09:28:04 LIKE YOUR FAMILY, AND OTHERS LIKE US CAN WALK MILES, BUT

09:28:09 ESPECIALLY FEEL ACCEPTED, FEEL ACCEPTED.

09:28:12 A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FROM GOING TO CHURCH OR SYNAGOGUE

09:28:15 OR TEMPLE, GOING TO SEE SANTA, WHATEVER IT IS, ARE SO OFTEN

09:28:20 BURDENED BY THESE CHALLENGES.

09:28:21 AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE.

09:28:26 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE A KID AND SEE THE

09:28:29 NORMAL THINGS TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU AND THEN HAVE IT HEARD IN

09:28:32 ISOLATION.

09:28:32 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE.

09:28:35 IT IS A TERRIBLE FEELING.

09:28:36 WE'VE GOT TO BE THERE FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

09:28:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL, MR. CHAIR, COUNCILMAN GUDES,

09:28:41 EVERYONE.

09:28:41 PHYLLIS, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:28:43 I LOVE YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU.

09:28:45 >> THANK YOU.

09:28:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:28:47 NEXT UP WE GO TO ITEM 2.

09:28:52 I WAS GOING TO PRESENT LaCHONE DOCK A COMMENDATION FOR

09:28:57 RETIRING FROM THE CITY, BUT I HAVE GOOD NEWS.




09:29:01 AND HERE IS A SHORT RESPONSE FROM CAROLE POST.

09:29:06 IT SAYS, WE ARE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THIS ITEM IS NOT

09:29:09 PROCEEDING BECAUSE LaCHONE IS NOT LEAVING THE CITY.

09:29:13 DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC PORTFOLIO CONTINUE TO GROW, WE TOOK

09:29:19 -- CAROLE POST TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO ACCELERATE SOME

09:29:21 ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES TO ENABLE LaCHONE TO TAKE ON NEW

09:29:24 RESPONSIBILITIES, LARGELY WITH THE NEW PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

09:29:27 GIVEN HER 16-PLUS YEARS OF TIME WITH THE CITY, WE ARE

09:29:31 THRILLED TO KNOW THAT SHE WILL STAY PART OF OUR TEAM.

09:29:34 WHEN I MADE THE MOTION TO GIVE LaCHONE THE COMMENDATION, I

09:29:37 SAW A LOT OF SAD FACES BECAUSE WE KNOW AND WE ALL KNOW HOW

09:29:40 MUCH SHE MEANS TO THE CITY.

09:29:42 WE ARE HAPPY THAT SHE IS STAYING ON.

09:29:44 NO COMMENDATION AND FOR GOOD REASON.

09:29:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THINK IT'S BETTER LaCHONE WILL STAY PART

09:29:51 OF THE FAMILY.

09:29:51 CONGRATULATIONS.

09:29:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU TO CAROLE POST.

09:29:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM 3.

09:29:58 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, OUR CITY CLERK ON THE SECOND FLOOR AT

09:30:02 THE KIOSK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, MA'AM.

09:30:05 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND EVERYONE.

09:30:08 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.

09:30:10 I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEMS 3, 4, AND 5.

09:30:14 FIRST UP IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PNAB APPOINTMENT, ALTERNATE




09:30:23 POSITION, MR. JAMES CHITTENDEN.

09:30:26 HE WANTS TO SPEAK TO YOU.

09:30:27 THANK YOU.

09:30:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.

09:30:33 >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

09:30:35 MY NAME IS JAMES CHITTENDEN.

09:30:37 WEST CHESTNUT STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33607.

09:30:41 I AM AN APPLICANT FOR THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD

09:30:49 AND CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.

09:30:50 I'VE ACTUALLY SERVED ON THIS BOARD --

09:30:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

09:30:55 >> I'VE ACTUALLY SERVED ON THIS BOARD FOR SOME 15 YEARS.

09:30:59 TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE NEVER MISSED A MEETING AND JUST LIKE

09:31:04 YOU, I UNDERSTAND THAT PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THESE CASES,

09:31:08 PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THESE MATTERS THAT EVER COME BEFORE THIS

09:31:11 BOARD ALWAYS HAVE MULTIPLE SIDES.

09:31:14 I ALWAYS STRIVE TO TREAT EVERYONE AS FAIRLY AS POSSIBLE.

09:31:21 I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE BOARD.

09:31:22 FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCEDURES, FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS,

09:31:27 FAMILIAR WITH THE LAWS.

09:31:29 AND FOR THAT REASON AND ALSO JUST MY PAST SERVICE, I ASK FOR

09:31:36 YOUR SUPPORT.

09:31:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:31:37 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

09:31:39 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.




09:31:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR JAMIE, BUT I

09:31:43 JUST WANTED TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT-OUT AND TELL HIM HOW MUCH WE

09:31:46 APPRECIATE YOUR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE.

09:31:49 I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE THOSE.

09:31:50 THANK YOU, JAMIE.

09:31:51 >> APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

09:31:52 THANK YOU.

09:31:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

09:31:54 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO VOUCH FOR HIM AS WELL.

09:31:58 I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME.

09:32:01 HE'S SERVED IN THE MILITARY.

09:32:02 HE'S BEEN A HISTORIAN, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

09:32:05 WROTE BOOKS.

09:32:06 DIDN'T YOU WRITE BOOKS, TOO?

09:32:07 >> I'VE WRITTEN A FEW BOOKS, YES, SIR.

09:32:09 >>BILL CARLSON: ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE TO

09:32:12 THE COMMUNITY.

09:32:12 LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO HAVE YOU.

09:32:14 LET'S CATCH UP SOON.

09:32:15 >> APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

09:32:16 YOU, TOO.

09:32:18 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO ECHO THAT.

09:32:20 I KNOW YOUR BROTHER, EDWARD, WHO IS A NICE GUY.

09:32:24 WE USED TO WORK AT THE SAME LAW FIRM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

09:32:27 I KNOW YOU ARE A THOUGHTFUL AND ENGAGED PERSON.




09:32:30 I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY AND

09:32:33 FOR YOUR CONTINUING SERVICE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS

09:32:36 VOTE.

09:32:37 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

09:32:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD TO SEE YOU, MY BROTHER. HAVEN'T SEEN

09:32:43 YOU IN A WHILE.

09:32:45 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND I BOTH SERVED ON CODE ENFORCEMENT.

09:32:48 WE KNOW THE GREAT WORK AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO DURING THOSE

09:32:52 MEETINGS.

09:32:52 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

09:32:53 >> THANK YOU, SIR.

09:32:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?

09:32:56 NO.

09:32:56 I DON'T KNOW, SIR, I'M ON THE FENCE.

09:32:58 I DON'T REALLY KNOW YOU, SO WE MAY HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS.

09:33:02 I'M KIDDING.

09:33:03 OH, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YES, SIR.

09:33:06 YOU'RE MUTED, SIR.

09:33:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHO MUTED ME.

09:33:18 WASN'T ME.

09:33:19 I MOVE THE NOMINATION.

09:33:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

09:33:21 MIRANDA.

09:33:22 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

09:33:23 YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.




09:33:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO CONFIRM WITH THE CLERK THIS IS

09:33:27 FOR THE ALTERNATE POSITION.

09:33:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.

09:33:30 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:33:32 WHO IS THE SECOND?

09:33:33 CITRO WAS THE SECOND.

09:33:36 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:33:38 ANY OPPOSED?

09:33:38 CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

09:33:41 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:33:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.

09:34:01 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCIL, SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES AGAIN

09:34:06 FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, THAT'S THE EQUAL BUSINESS

09:34:10 OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COMMISSION.

09:34:12 WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT.

09:34:16 THE FIRST IS MS. LANGHAM-BISHOP, WHO IS UNABLE TO ATTEND DUE

09:34:24 TO A BUSINESS CONFLICT.

09:34:25 AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE REAPPOINTED.

09:34:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS AND TWO

09:34:30 APPLICANTS, CORRECT?

09:34:31 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES.

09:34:32 THE SECOND INDIVIDUAL IS MS. WINKLER.

09:34:37 SHE WILL BE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

09:34:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:34:41 IF WE HAVE NICOL WINKLER ON.




09:34:45 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

09:34:47 GO AHEAD.

09:34:47 UNMUTE YOURSELF.

09:34:49 ALL RIGHT.

09:35:32 IF YOU'D LIKE US TO APPOINT YOU HERE, JUST NOD YES, I GUESS.

09:35:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

09:35:41 IT IS THE EBO BOARD.

09:35:45 I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

09:35:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS SHE MUTED ON OUR END?

09:35:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES SHE SEE THAT MICROPHONE BUTTON.

09:35:57 >> YES, MY MICROPHONE BUTTON -- HI, CITY COUNCIL, NICOL

09:36:02 WINKLER HERE.

09:36:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

09:36:07 >> I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND.

09:36:10 I'M HERE IN MY FOURTH YEAR OF BEING A PART OF THE EQUAL

09:36:14 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL.

09:36:16 I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THAT TIME, AND I'VE ALSO FINALLY GONE

09:36:20 THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ADDING OUR OWN BUSINESS TO BE

09:36:25 QUALIFIED IN THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM.

09:36:28 SO I LEARNED A LOT GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND I REALLY

09:36:31 WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SHARE THAT WITH MY COMMUNITY SO I

09:36:35 CAN HELP OTHER BUSINESSES WORK AND COLLABORATE WITH THE

09:36:38 CITY.

09:36:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:36:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, MS. WINKLER.




09:36:44 THE EBO PROGRAM IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE IT DEALS

09:36:49 WITH A LOT OF MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES WHO ARE TRYING TO BE

09:36:53 A PART OF THE CITY CONTRACTS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

09:36:56 WHEN I FIRST CAME ON, I HEARD THAT THE BOARD WASN'T MEETING

09:37:00 ON A REGULAR BASIS.

09:37:02 SO I'M JUST WONDERING IS THAT BOARD MEETING ON A REGULAR

09:37:05 BASIS NOW?

09:37:07 >> YES, WE ARE.

09:37:08 WE ARE DOING THAT VIRTUALLY, YEP.

09:37:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE'RE DOING THAT VIRTUALLY.

09:37:13 I ALSO HEARD SOME FOLKS, MEMBERS ON THE BOARD THOUGHT THE

09:37:16 BOARD WASN'T BEING THAT EFFECTIVE IN BEING ABLE TO FOCUS ON

09:37:21 POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO ENACT TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKLOAD

09:37:27 WITHIN THE CITY IS BEING EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED AND PEOPLE ARE

09:37:30 GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY.

09:37:31 CAN YOU ELABORATE ON ANY OF THAT?

09:37:34 >> YES, THAT WAS MY CONCERN IN THE BEGINNING AS WELL AFTER

09:37:38 ATTENDING THE FIRST FEW OF THE MEETINGS.

09:37:43 THE PROCESS TO BECOME CERTIFIED IS QUITE INTENSIVE.

09:37:49 I THINK THERE IS A LEARNING CURVE TO THAT.

09:37:51 I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR BETTER MARKETING FOR

09:37:55 BUSINESSES SO WE CAN MAKE IT A MORE FRIENDLIER PROCESS.

09:38:01 I THINK IT IS ABOUT GETTING MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE.

09:38:03 AND I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE OF THE BOARD IS THAT THEY

09:38:06 HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TO




09:38:09 GET IT INTO THE RIGHT HANDS SO THAT QUALIFYING COMPANIES

09:38:13 CAN, IN FACT, SEE THESE CONTRACTS AND COMPETE FOR THEM.

09:38:21 FROM WHAT -- CAN I ONLY SEE SO MUCH FROM MY POSITION, BUT I

09:38:26 DO KNOW THAT GREGORY AND MICHELLE AND LYDA AND SOME OF THE

09:38:31 DIRECTORS I WORK WITH, THEY ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION.

09:38:34 THEY E-MAIL ME WHEN THERE ARE EVENTS OR EXPOS OR LEARNING

09:38:40 POTENTIALS FOR BUSINESSES TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE CITY.

09:38:44 SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE EVEN BUILDING

09:38:48 SUBCOMMITTEES WITHIN EBOAC SO US INDIVIDUALS THAT SERVE ON

09:38:52 THE BOARD CAN HELP IMPROVE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE PROGRAM

09:38:57 WITHIN OUR OWN AUDIENCES.

09:39:00 AN EXAMPLE, WE'VE GOT A MARKETING SUBCOMMITTEE SO THAT WE

09:39:05 CAN HELP ADVISE THE BOARD ON STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE, THINGS

09:39:09 THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE BOARD BE MORE EFFECTIVE.

09:39:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST.

09:39:16 AGAIN, I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AREA, AND I HEAR A LOT OF

09:39:20 THINGS.

09:39:21 I'M LOOKING FOR THE BOARD TO BE ABLE -- I DRIVE AROUND THE

09:39:25 CITY A LOT, I SEE FOLKS OUT THERE DOING WORK, I SAY, WHY ARE

09:39:29 YOU NOT A PART OF THE CITY?

09:39:32 I HEAR THE PROCESS IS TOO INTENSE.

09:39:34 I HEAR THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

09:39:37 I HEAR A LOT OF THINGS THAT DISCOURAGES ME, AND I HAVE TO

09:39:42 TAKE THE STEP TO SAY, NO, I'M GOING TO SEND YOUR NAME OVER

09:39:46 TO THE EBO OFFICE.




09:39:47 I'M LOOKING AT MORE OUTREACH FROM THE BOARD AND FROM STAFF

09:39:51 TO BE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT IN OFFICES, BECAUSE

09:39:55 PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE WORKING EVERY DAY, AND THEY DON'T KNOW

09:39:59 TO KNOW.

09:39:59 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FEARFUL OF GOVERNMENT AT TIMES.

09:40:05 I WANT THE BOARD, I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO BE REAPPOINTED,

09:40:09 TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

09:40:11 I THINK THAT WILL HELP OUR NUMBERS BETTER SO PEOPLE WON'T BE

09:40:15 FEARFUL OF THE PROCESS.

09:40:16 THEY WON'T BE FEARFUL OF GOVERNMENT.

09:40:18 AGAIN, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SPEAK THAT LOWER LINGO TO

09:40:23 PEOPLE.

09:40:24 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BIG WORDS.

09:40:25 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS.

09:40:27 BUT IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN TO THEM IN A SIMPLE FORM, THEY ARE

09:40:31 READY TO WORK AND GET TO A DREAM.

09:40:36 THIS REAPPOINTMENT AND DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING, YOU'LL BRING

09:40:39 THAT BACK TO YOUR EBO BOARD.

09:40:41 I KNOW STAFF IS PROBABLY LISTENING, BUT WE NEED MORE

09:40:44 OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I SEE PEOPLE LAYING MUD

09:40:47 EVERY DAY.

09:40:47 PEOPLE DOING ROOFS EVERY DAY.

09:40:49 I SEE THESE FOLKS OUT THERE EVERY DAY.

09:40:51 WHEN I SAY I SEE A LIST AND WE DON'T HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE

09:40:54 ON THERE, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE PEOPLE ON THERE, BUT THEY ARE




09:40:58 OUT THERE.

09:40:58 THEY JUST NEED TO HAVE THE TOOLS TO GET THEM ON BOARD.

09:41:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:41:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:41:06 MR. SHELBY.

09:41:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, A

09:41:09 CLARIFICATION.

09:41:10 JUST SO YOU KNOW WITH BOTH MS. WINKLER AND MS. LANGHAM

09:41:17 BISHOP, THEIR FIRST TERM EXPIRED ON AUGUST 23rd OF 2020.

09:41:23 JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT THE TERM OF OFFICE FOR THIS BOARD IS

09:41:26 TWO YEARS WITH TERM LIMITS OF TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS.

09:41:30 MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL IS, IS IT COUNCIL'S INTENTION IN THAT

09:41:34 WE'VE HAD THE PANDEMIC AND WE'VE HAD THE DISRUPTION IN THE

09:41:38 WAY THE CITY DOES BUSINESS AND THE FACT THAT THEIR TERMS

09:41:41 EXPIRED IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, WOULD IT BE YOUR INTENTION

09:41:45 TO HAVE THEIR APPOINTMENT NOW BE FOR A FULL TWO-YEAR TERM

09:41:49 EFFECTIVE TODAY OR DID YOU WANT IT TO BE RETROACTIVE TO LAST

09:41:55 AUGUST?

09:41:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING HAPPENED SINCE LAST --

09:41:57 CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE BEYOND ANYONE'S

09:42:00 CONTROL, I THINK IT SHOULD START FROM TODAY -- WELL -- THE

09:42:08 WORLD STOPPED ESSENTIALLY FOR A PERIOD THERE.

09:42:11 JUST TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.

09:42:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S INTENTION THAT WILL BE

09:42:15 FINE AND PART OF THE MOTION TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE TODAY,




09:42:18 THEN.

09:42:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE, MAYBE I MISSED WHAT

09:42:22 MS. WINKLER SAID.

09:42:23 I KNOW SHE'S NOT RELATED TO MY OLD COUSIN HENRY.

09:42:26 I'M SMILING.

09:42:29 SHE KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

09:42:31 >> I WISH.

09:42:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I'M ASKING, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE

09:42:35 MOTION, BUT I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION SO I CAN

09:42:40 DIGEST IT.

09:42:41 ARE WE SAYING FROM AUGUST 20, 2020 TO NOW THERE HAS NOT BEEN

09:42:46 A MEETING OF THAT BOARD?

09:42:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MIRANDA, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

09:42:51 I HAD A CALL INTO MR. HART YESTERDAY.

09:42:53 UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO CONNECT WITH HIM.

09:42:56 I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

09:42:57 IF YOU WANT TO --

09:42:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, THEN, I CAN'T MAKE A JUDGMENT ON

09:43:01 WHAT TIME IT SHOULD START.

09:43:02 IF IT'S FROM 2020 AND ONE MEETING BETWEEN 2020 AND NOW, THEN

09:43:06 I THINK WE'RE IN VIOLATION OF OUR OWN MOTION BECAUSE THEY

09:43:11 HAVE BEEN MEETING VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON.

09:43:14 I DON'T KNOW WHICH.

09:43:15 I'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION AS FAR AS MY VOTE IS

09:43:19 CONCERNED.




09:43:19 HAVE THEY MET ANYTIME AFTER AUGUST 20, 2020 TO FIND OUT, IF

09:43:23 SO DESERVING, I'M NOT AGAINST IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE

09:43:26 I'M WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE LAW.

09:43:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MIRANDA HAS AN EXCELLENT POINT.

09:43:31 I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO CONNECT WITH THE

09:43:34 DEPARTMENT AND TO DEFER THIS UNTIL LATER UNTIL WE HAVE MORE

09:43:37 INFORMATION.

09:43:38 I DON'T THINK IT WOULD JEOPARDIZE EITHER ONE OF THE

09:43:40 POSITIONS.

09:43:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HEART IS ON THE LINE.

09:43:43 WE CAN ASK HIM NOW FOR CLARIFICATION.

09:43:45 MR. HART, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY

09:43:48 MEETINGS SINCE AUGUST OF LAST YEAR UNTIL NOW, VIRTUALLY, IN

09:43:52 PERSON, ANYTHING?

09:43:54 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

09:43:55 GREGORY HART, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM.

09:43:59 YES, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW MEETINGS.

09:44:02 AS HAS BEEN STATED, WHEN THE PANDEMIC WENT INTO THE

09:44:09 STAGNATION OF MOST EVERYTHING, EARLY ON, THERE WERE NO

09:44:12 MEETINGS.

09:44:12 YES, SINCE WE'VE HAD -- OH, GOSH -- PROBABLY FOUR, FIVE, SIX

09:44:18 MEETINGS, IF NOT MORE.

09:44:21 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD THINK -- I DON'T HAVE THE

09:44:27 RECORD IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR THREE OR

09:44:31 FOUR MONTHS OF LATE.




09:44:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

09:44:36 IF THAT'S THE CASE, MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST START IT FROM WHEN

09:44:40 THE TERM EXPIRED.

09:44:41 MR. MIRANDA.

09:44:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST -- AND I DON'T WANT MS. WINKLER OR

09:44:45 ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD TO BE THAT WE'RE -- HOWEVER, SINCE

09:44:51 WE DON'T REALLY KNOW ALL THE FACTS AND AT THIS POINT, EVEN

09:44:53 THE ADVISOR SPOKE THAT IT WAS FOUR, FIVE MEETINGS, SIX

09:44:56 MEETINGS, WE WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY BREAK OF SERVICE.

09:44:59 SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO HOLD THIS A WEEK OR SO, WHATEVER TIME

09:45:02 IT IS SO WE CAN COME BACK AND HAVE THE FACTS WHEN THEY

09:45:05 STOPPED MEETING SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE SECOND-YEAR

09:45:09 TERM.

09:45:09 I WANT TO BE AS FAIR AS I CAN TO EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD.

09:45:12 THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING AND I'M SURE THIS COUNCIL WOULD WANT

09:45:14 TO DO THE SAME THING.

09:45:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 4 TO MAY 6 WHICH

09:45:18 IS OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.

09:45:20 WE'LL PUT IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA JUST LIKE THIS

09:45:23 UNDER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.

09:45:24 IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL GET AS MUCH CLARIFICATION AS WE CAN.

09:45:27 COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH THE MOTION.

09:45:30 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

09:45:32 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

09:45:32 ALL IN FAVOR?




09:45:33 AYE.

09:45:34 WE'LL COME BACK MAY 6th, MA'AM, MS. WINKLER, SO WE CAN GET

09:45:38 CLARIFICATION ON HOW MANY MEETINGS AND THE TERM LIMIT AND

09:45:42 ALL THAT.

09:45:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:45:46 >> THANK YOU.

09:45:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:45:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT MS. WINKLER TO KNOW WE APPRECIATE

09:45:52 HER SERVICE.

09:45:52 WE APPRECIATE ALL HER EFFORTS AND, CLEARLY, THIS IS JUST A

09:45:56 PROCEDURAL CONTINUANCE.

09:45:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO THANK MR.

09:46:01 MIRANDA FOR CLARIFYING THAT ISSUE, RAISING THE ISSUE, AND

09:46:03 ALLOWING US TO CLARIFY IT.

09:46:05 THANK YOU, SIR.

09:46:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 5, SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, GO AHEAD.

09:46:08 WE HAVE ONE MORE.

09:46:09 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.

09:46:12 YES, COUNCIL, WE HAVE ONE LAST ONE FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL

09:46:16 REVIEW COMMISSION.

09:46:19 SUSAN KLAUSSMITH WANTS TO BE REAPPOINTED.

09:46:23 SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY, BUT REQUESTS REAPPOINTMENT.

09:46:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

09:46:30 COUNCILMAN GUDES?

09:46:30 NO.




09:46:31 ANY QUESTIONS?

09:46:31 CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REAPPOINTMENT.

09:46:35 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

09:46:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

09:46:38 ALL IN FAVOR?

09:46:39 AYE.

09:46:39 ANY OPPOSED?

09:46:40 ALL RIGHT.

09:46:42 THAT SETTLES THAT.

09:46:44 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.

09:46:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU.

09:46:46 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

09:46:48 WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

09:46:50 THEN WE'LL GO TO THE VIRTUAL.

09:46:52 THE VIRTUAL WE HAVE 12 REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

09:46:54 WE WILL START WITH IN-PERSON ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

09:46:58 AFTER EACH PERSON, WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND KEEP IT

09:47:02 GOING FROM THERE.

09:47:02 GO AHEAD.

09:47:12 FIRST SPEAKER.

09:47:17 >> HELLO.

09:47:18 MY NAME IS CLAYTON LONG.

09:47:20 I'M A LIFELONG TAMPA RESIDENT.

09:47:22 I OWN A HOME WITH MY WIFE IN THE NORTH YBOR EAST TAMPA AREA.

09:47:26 I'M HERE TO DISCUSS PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.




09:47:29 I HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT TO READ.

09:47:30 REAL ESTATE INVESTOR HAS PURCHASED AT LEAST TWO PROPERTIES

09:47:33 IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

09:47:34 ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES IS NEXT DOOR TO ME AND IT HASN'T ONE

09:47:38 BUT TWO STOP WORK ORDERS ATTACHED TO IT.

09:47:40 AFTER THE FIRST STOP WORK ORDER, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY

09:47:42 SUBMITTED AN OWNER/BUILDER PERMIT APPLICATION WHERE THE

09:47:45 SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED RECONFIGURATION OF THE INTERIOR

09:47:48 SPACE, ELECTRICAL WORK, AND WINDOW REPLACEMENTS.

09:47:50 THE PLANS THAT HE INCLUDED HAVE NO ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS, NO

09:47:54 WINDOW INSTALLATION SPECS.

09:47:56 THEY ARE NOT TO SCALE, NOT SIGNED, NOT SEALED, NOT DRAFTED

09:47:59 BY A PROFESSIONAL.

09:48:00 THOSE PLANS, WHICH I HAVE WITH ME HERE TODAY, WERE RECENTLY

09:48:03 APPROVED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA'S CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR A

09:48:06 LEVEL ONE ALTERATION PERMIT.

09:48:09 THREE YEARS AGO, I APPLIED FOR A PERMIT FROM THE CITY OF

09:48:12 TAMPA TO CONVERT MY REAR LAUNDRY AREA INTO A SECOND

09:48:16 BATHROOM.

09:48:16 I HIRED AN ARCHITECT.

09:48:17 PLANS PRINTED TO SPEC, SIGNED AND SEALED WITH TWO SCALE

09:48:20 DRAWINGS, ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS, THE WORKS.

09:48:22 THE CITY SENT MY PERMIT APPLICATION BACK TO ME FOR TWO

09:48:26 MONTHS.

09:48:26 THEY EVEN MADE ME GET THE PLANS REDRAFTED.




09:48:28 THE CITY ALSO UPGRADED IT TO A LEVEL TWO ALTERATION BECAUSE

09:48:32 I WAS CHANGING OUT A WINDOW AND HAD A WALL ADDITION.

09:48:36 ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY MODIFIED MY PERMIT REQUEST TO ADD ALL

09:48:39 OF THE WINDOWS IN MY HOUSE TO THAT PERMIT REQUEST BECAUSE

09:48:41 THE PREVIOUS OWNER, ALSO A BELOW BOARD FLIPPER, NEVER

09:48:45 PERMITTED THOSE WINDOWS PRIOR TO SELLING IT TO ME.

09:48:48 REWORKING THE PLANS, HIRING ARCHITECT, WIDENING THE SCOPE OF

09:48:52 WORK, UPGRADING THE PERMIT TO LEVEL 2 ALTERATION COST ME

09:48:55 THOUSANDS EXTRA.

09:48:56 AT THE TIME, I WAS FURIOUS BUT I RATIONALIZED IT AS THIS IS

09:48:59 WHAT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE.

09:49:00 EVERYONE APPLYING FOR A PERMIT WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A

09:49:03 ARCHITECT, CITE PROPER BUILDING AND ELECTRICAL CODES HAVE

09:49:07 PLANS SIGNED AND SEALED, ANYONE CHANGING WALLS OR WINDOWS

09:49:09 WOULD REQUIRE A LEVEL TWO ALTERATION PERMIT.

09:49:12 YET, NEXT DOOR TO ME, I CAN PLAINLY SEE THOSE RULES DON'T

09:49:15 APPLY EQUAL TO EVERYONE.

09:49:17 THE INVESTOR NEXT DOOR DOESN'T NEED DETAILED PLANS THAT

09:49:19 COVER THE FULL SCOPE OF HIS WORK.

09:49:21 HE CAN CHANGE WALLS AND WINDOWS WITH A LEVEL ONE ALTERATION

09:49:25 PERMIT.

09:49:26 HE CAN SCRIBBLE ON THE BACK OF CARDBOARD, CALL THEM PLANS

09:49:29 AND GETS A PASS.

09:49:30 WHY IS HE SPECIAL AND MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE NOT?

09:49:33 WHY ARE THE RULES DIFFERENT FOR US THAN THEY ARE FOR HIM?




09:49:36 WHY DOES HE GET A FREE PASS TO DO HARM TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

09:49:39 AND TO WHOEVER THE NEXT OWNER WILL BE?

09:49:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

09:49:43 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND TAKE UP THE NEXT SPEAKER.

09:49:54 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

09:50:14 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

09:50:19 I WENT TO THE BAR THE OTHER NIGHT.

09:50:21 MET A NICE YOUNG LADY.

09:50:24 PAID MY $40, AND WE WENT BACK TO THE HOTEL ROOM.

09:50:29 WHEN WE GOT BACK TO THE HOTEL ROOM, I FOUND OUT THE NICE

09:50:33 YOUNG LADY WAS ACTUALLY A MAN.

09:50:38 KIND OF SURPRISED ME, BUT I ALREADY PAID MY $40, SO I HAD TO

09:50:43 GO THROUGH WITH THE ACT.

09:50:45 I JUST GOT STUCK BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO REVERSE THE

09:50:49 PROCESS OF LOSING THOSE $40.

09:50:51 THAT'S WHAT THIS CITY OF TAMPA WANT US AFRICAN PEOPLE TO BE

09:50:57 STUCK WITH.

09:50:58 THEY WANT US TO BE STUCK WITH GETTING SEXUALLY MOLESTED,

09:51:04 SEXUALLY ABUSED.

09:51:07 IN THE ANUS, IN THE POSTERIOR.

09:51:12 ON A LIFELONG BASIS.

09:51:15 >>LUIS VIERA: POINT OF ORDER, MR. CHAIR.

09:51:17 POINT OF ORDER.

09:51:18 MR. SHELBY, ARE THERE ANY RULES TO THIS?

09:51:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL READ YOU THE RULES, COUNCIL.




09:51:26 WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

09:51:32 RULE 5.

09:51:34 IT STATES THE FOLLOWING:

09:51:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: INTO THE MICROPHONE, SIR.

09:51:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALL PERSONS SHALL AT ALL TIMES CONDUCT

09:51:45 THEMSELVES IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNCIL RULES.

09:51:47 PERSONS FAILING TO DO SO SHALL BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND MAY

09:51:50 BE DIRECTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR TO BE REMOVED

09:51:52 FROM THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

09:51:53 SUCH PERSON SHALL NOT THEREAFTER BE READMITTED TO THE CITY

09:51:57 COUNCIL CHAMBER OR CITY HALL DURING THE REMAINDER OF THAT

09:52:00 DAY'S MEETING.

09:52:01 SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING

09:52:04 MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS.

09:52:07 SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING PERSONAL ATTACKS

09:52:09 AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF

09:52:12 THE PUBLIC.

09:52:13 COMMENTS SHALL BE DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY AND NOT

09:52:16 TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

09:52:20 NO ONE PRESENT DURING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING SHALL ENGAGE IN

09:52:24 DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.

09:52:26 INCLUDING INTENTIONALLY MAKING OR CAUSING TO BE MADE ANY

09:52:29 DISRUPTIVE NOISE OR SOUND OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS IN

09:52:32 A MANNER DISRUPTIVE TO THE PROCEEDINGS.

09:52:35 THAT WOULD BE THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF YOUR RULES OF




09:52:42 PROCEDURE.

09:52:42 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

09:52:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, DISRUPTIVE, VULGAR.

09:52:47 MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO MAKE MY OBJECTIONS.

09:52:49 THAT'S ALL.

09:52:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:52:53 >> AM I CONTINUING?

09:52:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

09:52:55 >> YEAH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

09:52:56 YOU ALL DON'T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE SPEAKING.

09:52:58 THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

09:52:59 WHEN BLACK PEOPLE COME TO SPEAK, YOU TREAT US -- YOU ALL NOT

09:53:03 INDIFFERENT TO REGULAR WHITE PEOPLE.

09:53:05 IT'S NO DIFFERENT FROM HOW WE ARE TREATED INTERNATIONALLY.

09:53:08 IT'S NO DIFFERENCE FROM HOW WE'RE TREATED NATIONALLY, AND

09:53:11 IT'S NO DIFFERENCE TO HOW WE'RE TREATED LOCALLY.

09:53:14 YOU ALL DON'T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE TO EXPRESS OURSELVES.

09:53:18 YOU DON'T LIKE US TO HAVE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AND YOU WANT

09:53:20 US TO STAY SCARED.

09:53:23 YOU WANT TO CHOKE US OUT LIKE YOU CHOKED OUT GEORGE FLOYD.

09:53:26 SHOOT US LIKE YOU SHOT THE YOUNG MAN THE OTHER DAY.

09:53:29 YOU UNDERSTAND?

09:53:31 YOU WANT TO KILL US LIKE YOU KILLED A YOUNG MAN IN THE

09:53:32 HOSPITAL AND YOU WANT TO GET AWAY WITH IT AND YOU DON'T WANT

09:53:35 AFRICAN PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON IT.




09:53:37 YOU WANT TO BE SCARED.

09:53:38 YOU WANT TO PUT ROUNDABOUTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE DON'T

09:53:41 HAVE NO PLACE TO LIVE.

09:53:43 YOU ALL WANT US TO KEEP OUR MOUTHS SHUT.

09:53:46 MAN, AIN'T NOBODY SCARED ABOUT YOU.

09:53:48 AIN'T NOBODY SCARED ABOUT YOUR RULES.

09:53:50 AFRICAN PEOPLE, WE HAVE MOVED BEYOND THAT.

09:53:52 PEOPLE COME DOWN HERE TO SPEAK, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT

09:53:55 THEY WEAR, HOW THEY DRESS, WHAT THEY LOOK, BUT YOU'RE NOT

09:53:57 WORRIED ABOUT HOW WE'RE BEING TREATED.

09:53:59 AIN'T NOBODY SCARE OF YOU.

09:54:00 YOU THE COWARD.

09:54:01 I'M NOT THE COWARD.

09:54:02 AIN'T NOBODY SCARED OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

09:54:05 THIS CITY COUNCIL THE COWARD.

09:54:06 THE MAYOR RUN THIS CITY.

09:54:09 THE MAYOR TELL YOU ALL WHAT TO DO.

09:54:11 THE MAYOR GIVE YOU ALL A BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET AND YOU

09:54:14 APPROVE IT IN SECONDS IF YOU ALL AIN'T EVEN SEEN IT.

09:54:17 NOTHING IN IT FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

09:54:18 26% OF THE POPULATION.

09:54:20 AIN'T NOTHING IN IT FOR US.

09:54:21 AND WE COME DOWN HERE AND YOU-ALL GOT MORE COPS DOWN HERE

09:54:26 WASTING TIME.

09:54:27 YOUR SALARY, YOU CAN'T GET TO WORK ON TIME AND YOU WANT TO




09:54:29 TREAT THE PEOPLE A CERTAIN KIND OF WAY AND SOMEBODY IS

09:54:31 SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF THAT.

09:54:33 MAN, AIN'T NOBODY AFRAID OF YOU.

09:54:35 I AIN'T NEVER BEEN AFRAID.

09:54:36 YOU AFRAID OF LIFE.

09:54:38 YOU AFRAID OF LIVING.

09:54:39 YOU THE COWARD.

09:54:40 I'M NOT A COWARD.

09:54:41 THE CITY COUNCIL THE COWARD.

09:54:43 THE MAYOR RUN THE CITY.

09:54:46 THE MAYOR RUN THE CITY.

09:54:47 THE MAYOR BEFORE THAT, MAYOR RUN THE CITY.

09:54:50 YOU CAN TELL YOU-ALL AIN'T GOT NO POWER.

09:54:53 YOU ALL AIN'T GOT NOTHING.

09:54:55 THEY NEED TO CALL YOU ALL BUDGET APPROVERS.

09:54:58 THAT'S ALL YOU ARE ALL.

09:54:59 NONE MORE, NONE LESS.

09:55:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:55:02 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER.

09:55:05 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

09:55:25 >> YES, GOOD MORNING.

09:55:25 I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO GIVE CONGRATULATIONS TO MRS. PHYLLIS

09:55:35 GOODMAN BECAUSE SHE JUST DIDN'T TALK ABOUT HER SITUATION.

09:55:41 SHE BROADENED THE LANDSCAPE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT AFRICAN

09:55:46 PEOPLE ARE CONFRONTED WITH ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE FEAR




09:55:50 THAT EXISTS.

09:55:50 WALKING, LIVING, BIKING.

09:55:53 SO I APPRECIATE THAT BUT WHAT BRINGS ME HERE THIS MORNING IS

09:55:57 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT

09:56:02 RESPECT FOR THE RULES, I'M GOING TO KEEP ON COMING, AND I'M

09:56:07 GOING TO KEEP ON ADVOCATING FOR EAST TAMPA AND THE AFRICAN

09:56:13 COMMUNITY.

09:56:13 I'M GOING TO KEEP ON COMING AND I'M GOING TO KEEP ON

09:56:16 ADVOCATING FOR JOBS, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR BETTER HOUSING

09:56:22 FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, WORKERS THAT DESERVE TO HAVE THE

09:56:27 OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD.

09:56:28 BUT WHAT I FIND TO BE COMPLETELY DISGUSTING IS THE FACT THAT

09:56:33 WE DO HAVE A PROCESS IN EAST TAMPA CALLED THE CRA THAT IS

09:56:38 BEING SO DISRESPECTED BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS BEING

09:56:42 MANIPULATED BY THOSE WHO WANT TO HAVE THEIR FINAL SAY ON

09:56:47 THINGS WE'RE DOING.

09:56:49 ON THE UPCOMING APRIL THE 12th THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT

09:56:53 TO THE AESTHETIC AND BEAUTIFICATION PROCESS HAS NOT EVEN

09:56:58 BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE BOARD.

09:57:00 THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE THAT HAS BEEN

09:57:04 PUT OUT BY THE CITY FOR AN ART PROJECT FOR ROUNDABOUTS ON

09:57:09 34th.

09:57:10 THIS BOARD HAS ONLY BEEN ASSEMBLED SIX MONTHS, YET, STILL,

09:57:16 THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT HAS WANTED

09:57:19 TO MOVE FORWARD IN TERMS OF A QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUE FOR THE




09:57:22 COMMUNITY HAS BEEN STALLED.

09:57:24 BUT THE SHINY, PRETTY THINGS THAT THE CITY WANTS IS MOVING

09:57:29 FORWARD, AND I'M QUITE SURE IN YOUR MAY CRA MEETING YOU'RE

09:57:35 GOING TO BE VOTING FOR UP TO $300,000 TO BE SPENT ON AN ART

09:57:40 PROJECT ROUNDABOUT.

09:57:42 I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT AS A CITIZEN, THAT IF YOU HAVE NO

09:57:46 RESPECT FOR THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH A SUBCOMMITTEE,

09:57:50 THEN FOLLOWED BY LISTENING TO THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION,

09:57:54 AND THEN YOU MAKE THE APPROVAL BECAUSE THE AESTHETIC AND

09:57:59 BEAUTIFICATION BOARD DO NOT MEET UNTIL APRIL THE 22nd.

09:58:07 THIS HAS BEEN FAST-FORWARD.

09:58:09 IF YOU CONSTANTLY REFUSE TO LISTEN TO THAT BOARD THAT HAS

09:58:13 BEEN ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, AS A CITIZEN, THEN I HAVE NO

09:58:16 OTHER RECOURSE THEN TO TAKE MY COMPLAINTS NOT TO YOU ANYMORE

09:58:22 BUT THEN TO ANOTHER BODY OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE FORMED

09:58:25 CRAs AND MAYBE THEY HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE RULE OF

09:58:31 DEMOCRACY.

09:58:32 IT IS INSULTING TO SEE HOW WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS IN A

09:58:38 COMMUNITY, BUT UP TO $300,000 COULD BE SPENT FOR OUR

09:58:45 PROJECT.

09:58:45 YOU CAN PARADE ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

09:58:47 YOU CAN PARADE ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK AFTER

09:58:49 ME, BUT IN EAST TAMPA, THERE'S OVER 40,000 RESIDENTS THAT

09:58:55 ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE SAME ISSUES PRETTY MUCH THAT

09:58:59 MS. PHYLLIS LAID OUT OF THE COMPLETE UNCERTAINTY OF LIFE




09:59:04 LIVING AS BLACK.

09:59:05 AND IF YOU, BOARD MEMBERS, WHICH ARE ALL DEMOCRATS, THAT ARE

09:59:10 ALWAYS DEPENDENT ON THAT POPULATION TO LISTEN TO YOU WHEN

09:59:15 YOU'RE CAMPAIGNING, SURELY YOU CAN LISTEN AND RESPECT THE

09:59:20 BOARD THAT HAS BEEN VOTED BY THAT COMMUNITY, MAYBE NOT ALL

09:59:26 LIGHT, BUT IT IS A PROCESS THAT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED.

09:59:28 SO THIS MEETING THAT HAS BEEN POSTED BY THE CITY TO HAPPEN

09:59:34 ON THE 21st, I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS BOARD HAS ENOUGH

09:59:38 COURAGE TO SAY THAT THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED.

09:59:42 THANK YOU.

09:59:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

09:59:44 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND BRING UP THE NEXT SPEAKER, IF

09:59:47 THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

09:59:49 ALL RIGHT.

10:00:06 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:00:07 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:00:10 DERRILL McATEER.

10:00:11 PHILLIPS DUNBAR LLP, 100 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE, SUITE 2000,

10:00:16 HERE IN TAMPA.

10:00:17 THIS IS AS TO ITEM 58.

10:00:19 I AM HERE TO SPEAK TO OBJECT TO BOTH THE INTERIM CONTROL

10:00:26 ORDINANCE AND THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT UNDERLIES, AS

10:00:30 OVERBROAD, UNDULY BURDENSOME AS DRAFTED AND AS THEY WOULD

10:00:35 EVENTUALLY BE APPLIED.

10:00:36 COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE.




10:00:40 IF THE COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THESE PROPOSALS, IT WILL

10:00:43 BE DISALLOWING THE APPLICATION OF EXISTING LAW WHILE

10:00:47 EXERCISING THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS OVER A LONG PERIOD OF

10:00:51 TIME.

10:00:52 THIS IS A MORATORIUM BY ANOTHER NAME.

10:00:55 I KNOW WE RESHAPED IT, REWRITTEN IT AND RELABELED IT BUT

10:00:59 THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

10:01:00 NOT ONLY AN ATTACK ON PROPERTY RIGHTS BUT A TAKING ON THOSE

10:01:03 RIGHTS.

10:01:04 LANDOWNER RIGHTS UNDER THE EXISTING CODE WILL LITERALLY

10:01:07 CEASE TO EXIST FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, MAYBE FOREVER.

10:01:11 MOREOVER, THE STORING COST OF SINGLE-FAMILY COST IN TAMPA

10:01:15 MAKE HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT A NECESSITY.

10:01:18 OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, TAMPA HAS ADOPTED A POLICY OF

10:01:21 INTENSE URBAN GROWTH.

10:01:23 A LOT OF THE RESULTS OF THAT POLICY HAVE BEEN SPECTACULAR.

10:01:26 WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER CITY NOW THAN WE DID 15, 20 YEARS AGO.

10:01:30 I'VE SEEN IT.

10:01:31 BUT WITH THAT GROWTH COMES AN INCREASED COST OF LIVING.

10:01:34 THAT'S NATURAL.

10:01:35 AND NOT EVERYONE WHO CAN LIVE IN THE CITY CAN AFFORD A

10:01:40 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ANYMORE.

10:01:42 YOU NEED THE APARTMENTS.

10:01:44 YOU NEED THE DENSITY.

10:01:45 IT'S PART OF MOVING FROM A TOWN TO A LARGE AMERICAN CITY.




10:01:50 MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IS NECESSARY TO MITIGATE THAT COST.

10:01:55 THESE PROPOSALS REPRESENT A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT THAT FUTURE

10:01:59 CITY COUNCILS MAY FOLLOW.

10:02:02 PLEASE DON'T GO DOWN THIS PATH.

10:02:04 PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL

10:02:08 ORDINANCE AND THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.

10:02:10 THANK YOU.

10:02:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:02:11 I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

10:02:17 WE HAVE 12 INDIVIDUALS REGISTERED FOR VIRTUAL PUBLIC

10:02:21 COMMENT.

10:02:23 >> WE DO HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC SPEAKER.

10:02:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU DO.

10:02:26 OKAY.

10:02:27 I'M SORRY.

10:02:28 GO AHEAD.

10:02:28 YES, MA'AM.

10:02:38 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:02:39 MY NAME IS ROSANNA DANIEL.

10:02:42 A LOT OF TIMES I WATCH BEHIND THE SCENES AND WATCH EVERYONE

10:02:53 SPEAK AND BRING THEIR AGENDAS TO THE FRONT PANEL.

10:03:04 SO DISHEARTENING, DISSATISFIED WITH A LOT OF IT.

10:03:12 I HEAR ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING ON FOR DECADES,

10:03:19 FOR A LONG TIME, AND I DON'T SEE ANY CHANGE.

10:03:27 WE TALK ABOUT CHANGE IN EAST TAMPA, NO, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A




10:03:30 CHANGE, NO.

10:03:31 AND I HEAR THEM SAY A CHANGE IS GOING TO COME.

10:03:40 BUT EVERYBODY IS IN THEIR HIGH PLACES.

10:03:44 ALL OF YOU WHO ARE MAKING DECISIONS.

10:03:48 YOU KNOW WHAT?

10:03:49 TODAY IS A NEW DAY.

10:03:53 AND I WANT TO MENTION THE NAME SANDRA BLAND.

10:04:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

10:04:13 >> YES.

10:04:13 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

10:04:16 IT JUST GETS QUIET.

10:04:20 THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

10:04:24 NOT ONLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT ALL AROUND.

10:04:27 AND YOU SAY GO AHEAD.

10:04:32 BUT HOW CAN WE MOVE AHEAD IF THE ONES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO

10:04:35 BE IN CHARGE ARE SITTING BACK AND MAKING DECISIONS AND

10:04:40 MAKING VOTES THAT IS NOT REALLY ON THE FRONT LINE, THE BEST

10:04:48 INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OR THE CITY AND DEFINITELY BORN AND

10:04:55 RAISED HERE, NOT FOR EAST TAMPA.

10:05:01 NO GROWTH.

10:05:02 ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THE NAME AGAIN.

10:05:07 I'LL SAY HER NAME.

10:05:10 SANDRA BLAND.

10:05:12 THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS.

10:05:20 REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND AND THE WORD IS




10:05:29 SAYING IT'S A DANGEROUS THING TO FALL IN THE HANDS OF AN

10:05:34 ANGRY GOD.

10:05:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:05:37 ALL RIGHT.

10:05:43 I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:05:46 WE GO TO THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

10:05:48 AGAIN, WE HAVE 12 REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

10:05:51 MADAM CLERK, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN.

10:05:53 WE'LL START, I HAVE DAVID MECHANIK AS THE FIRST SPEAKER,

10:05:56 WHOMEVER YOU HAVE, AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN THE LIST.

10:05:59 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.

10:06:00 DAVID, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:06:03 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:06:06 >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

10:06:09 MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.

10:06:12 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MICROVENTURES THAT OWNS A SIGNIFICANT

10:06:20 AMOUNT OF REAL ESTATE ON RATTLESNAKE POINT.

10:06:24 I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SAY, I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF.

10:06:34 IT IS THE CORRECT THING FOR COUNCIL TO PURSUE A PLAN

10:06:41 AMENDMENT.

10:06:42 THAT PROCESS INVOLVES A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND

10:06:47 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE AND TO EXPRESS

10:06:51 THEIR VIEWS.

10:06:52 THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT CHANGING THE COMPREHENSIVE

10:06:57 PLAN.




10:06:58 MY CONCERN, HOWEVER, LIES WITH THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT --

10:07:05 ORDINANCE AS PRIOR SPEAKER MENTIONED, IS A MORATORIUM WITH A

10:07:13 DIFFERENT LABEL ON IT.

10:07:14 AND I WOULD FIRST LIKE COUNCIL TO REALIZE THAT CATE WELLS IN

10:07:21 HER MEMORANDUM TO COUNCIL INDICATED THAT THE FOURTH DISTRICT

10:07:24 COURT OF APPEAL DETERMINED THAT THE PENDING ORDINANCE

10:07:29 DOCTRINE, WHAT YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO, DOES NOT APPLY OR

10:07:35 THE CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO USE THAT DOCTRINE FOR PLAN

10:07:42 AMENDMENT.

10:07:43 NOW, THAT DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL IS NOT BINDING ON THE

10:07:50 COURT OF APPEALS FOR TAMPA, BUT IT NEVERTHELESS -- RAISES A

10:07:57 SERIOUS QUESTION -- OF THIS MORATORIUM.

10:08:00 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT AND MAKE

10:08:06 SURE COUNCIL REALIZES, THE PROPOSAL WAS CHANGED TO INVOLVE

10:08:14 -- THE CMU AND UMU CATEGORIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHO ARE

10:08:19 NOW IMPACTING HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PROPERTY OWNERS

10:08:25 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

10:08:26 I'M SURE MANY OF WHOM ARE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THIS INITIATIVE

10:08:32 THAT THE STATE GAVE.

10:08:34 I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT COUNCIL PROCEED WITH

10:08:40 THE PLAN AMENDMENT BUT NOT PROCEED WITH THE INTERIM

10:08:43 DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE.

10:08:45 THANK YOU.

10:08:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:08:47 NEXT WE HAVE DAN WOODWARD.




10:08:51 >> GOOD MORNING.

10:08:54 DAN, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU

10:08:56 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:08:58 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.

10:09:00 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

10:09:01 MY NAME IS DAN WOODWARD WITH HIGH-WOODS PROPERTY, 3111 WEST

10:09:05 DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, TAMPA, 33607.

10:09:09 I AM SPEAKING TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 58 AND THE

10:09:16 MORATORIUM AND YOUR DESIRE TO ACCELERATE THE COMP PLAN

10:09:23 AMENDMENT PROCESS.

10:09:25 I STARTED MY CAREER IN 1985.

10:09:29 DURING THAT TIME, WATCHED IT MATURE FROM A SUBURBAN OFFICE

10:09:33 MARKET WITH SOME SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO A TRUE MIXED

10:09:36 USE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OFFICE, RETAIL, HOTEL,

10:09:40 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

10:09:42 THE EXISTING CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DIRECTS GROWTH

10:09:47 TO WESTSHORE, CENTRAL TAMPA, AND THE UNIVERSITY AREA.

10:09:51 THESE ARE THE AREAS OUR COMMUNITY TARGETED FOR GROWTH IN

10:09:55 ORDER TO ATTRACT AND SUPPORT A DIVERSE WORKFORCE AND

10:09:58 ENCOURAGE INCREASED TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.

10:10:01 I ASK THAT WESTSHORE, CENTRAL TAMPA, AND THE UNIVERSITY AREA

10:10:05 BE EXCLUDED FROM THIS PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE

10:10:09 PLAN, AND I ALSO RESPECTFULLY WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY

10:10:12 OBJECTION TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF JUNE 1.

10:10:16 I WOULD ASK THAT THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS BE ALLOWED




10:10:18 TO RUN ITS COURSE AS PRESCRIBED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

10:10:23 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:10:24 I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

10:10:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:10:28 NEXT WE HAVE GENE STEREO MYER.

10:10:30 JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:10:34 >> IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU

10:10:36 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:10:38 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:10:41 >> YES, WE CAN, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:10:44 >> WELL, BEFORE -- I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY -- I THOUGHT WE

10:10:50 WERE GOING TO SPEAK LATER ON, SINCE 58.

10:10:55 WE ASSUMED IT WAS LATER.

10:10:57 WASN'T QUITE PREPARED FOR EVERYTHING AT THIS TIME.

10:11:00 WITH THAT SAID, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.

10:11:06 I HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS I WAS GOING TO BRING UP.

10:11:08 ONE WAS ITEM 27 AND THE AGENDA ITEM IS REQUESTED -- IT'S

10:11:12 REGARDING THE MASK MANDATES AND REQUESTING FUNDS.

10:11:17 TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

10:11:18 IT SAYS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM WAS TO REDUCE THE

10:11:21 SPREAD OF COVID ON LARGE CONSTRUCTION SITES AND TO KEEP THIS

10:11:24 CRITICAL ENGINE MOVING FORWARD.

10:11:27 IT SAYS THE PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL IN THAT THERE WAS MINIMAL

10:11:30 SPREAD OF THE VIRUS AT THE SITE.

10:11:32 HOW DO WE KNOW THERE WAS MINIMAL SPREAD?




10:11:34 WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO MEASURE SOMETHING THAT DID NOT

10:11:37 HAPPEN.

10:11:37 THE PROGRAM IT SAID ON THE AGENDA WAS FUNDED BY VOLUNTARY

10:11:41 AGREEMENT BY THE DEVELOPERS.

10:11:43 IF THE PROGRAM WAS FUNDED BY VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT BY THE

10:11:47 DEVELOPERS AND THEY REIMBURSED THE CITY FOR THE COSTS, THEN

10:11:50 WHY ARE WE DOUBLING THE COST FROM 75,000 -- ALMOST DOUBLING

10:11:54 -- TO $130,000.

10:11:55 I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE EXTRA $55,500.

10:12:00 I DO NOT THINK THIS SHOULD BE INCREASED.

10:12:03 ON ITEM NUMBER 58, BESIDES -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

10:12:10 NON-MORATORIUM, MORATORIUM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY A

10:12:12 MORATORIUM.

10:12:13 IT'S MERELY TRYING TO LIMIT SOME DENSITY.

10:12:19 WE DID NOT BRING UP THE LAST TIME, AND WE MEANT TO, IS THAT

10:12:24 THIS SITE, ACCORDING TO THE TRANSCRIPTS OF 2008, THE

10:12:29 CHEMICAL PLANT, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT IT'S CONSIDERED BY

10:12:32 HOMELAND SECURITY, BY THE WAY, AS A TARGET OF A TERRORIST

10:12:35 ATTACK.

10:12:36 IF A TERRORIST WANTED TO ATTACK SOMETHING, IT'S GOING

10:12:39 STRAIGHT FOR THE CHEMICAL PLANT.

10:12:40 WE NEED TO ALSO KEEP THAT IN MIND UNDER THE CURRENT EXTREMES

10:12:46 OF THE OUTSIDE GOVERNMENTS AND OUR GOVERNMENT WITH MACDILL

10:12:49 AIR FORCE BASE RIGHT THERE.

10:12:51 PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT A TERRORIST ATTACK ON THAT




10:12:54 CHEMICAL PLANT WILL BE DEVASTATING NOT JUST TO THE NEIGHBORS

10:12:57 THERE, BUT IT WOULD SPREAD SINCE IT WOULD BE MORE THAN A

10:13:00 GALLON OF SPILLED CHLORINE.

10:13:05 IT WOULD BE A LOT.

10:13:07 ALL IN ALL WE SUPPORT THE MORATORIUM AS WRITTEN OR THE

10:13:09 NON-MORATORIUM MORATORIUM AS WRITTEN.

10:13:11 IT'S BEEN CLARIFIED A LITTLE BIT TO US SINCE OUR LAST

10:13:14 MEETING.

10:13:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU-ALL.

10:13:16 HAVE A GREAT DAY.

10:13:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE

10:13:19 RELATING TO A DECISION THAT'S PENDING BEFORE COUNCIL AT A

10:13:22 QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETING, QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING, JUST PLEASE

10:13:26 BE MINDFUL TO ONLY RELY ON THE EVIDENCE DEDUCED AT THE

10:13:31 HEARING.

10:13:31 THANK YOU.

10:13:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:13:33 NEXT UP IS ANDREW MOORE.

10:13:37 >> CHAIR, ANDREW MOORE AND MARK BENTLEY DID REGISTER TO

10:13:41 SPEAK.

10:13:42 HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT PHONE IN TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S

10:13:45 COUNCIL MEETING.

10:13:46 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE TOM ENNIS.

10:13:50 TOM, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOU

10:13:52 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.




10:13:54 THANK YOU.

10:13:55 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:13:55 THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.

10:13:58 I'M TOM ENNIS.

10:14:00 WITH MOSS AND ASSOCIATES.

10:14:01 5401 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THE WESTSHORE AREA.

10:14:04 I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON ITEM 58.

10:14:08 WE DO NOT SUPPORT ELIMINATING THE USE OF THE FLOOR AREA

10:14:11 RATIO FOR SINGLE-FAMILY -- OR SINGLE-USE MULTIFAMILY

10:14:14 DEVELOPMENT EFFECTIVE JUNE 1st.

10:14:17 WE FEEL THE ESTABLISHED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS

10:14:20 IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO ADDRESS ANY CHANGES TO CITYWIDE

10:14:24 DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

10:14:25 THIS ALLOWS A THOROUGH VETTING PROCESS BY THE PUBLIC.

10:14:29 WE BELIEVE THE CITY'S THREE MAJOR PLANNING DISTRICTS,

10:14:33 CENTRAL TAMPA, WESTSHORE, AND UNIVERSITY SHOULD BE EXEMPTED

10:14:37 FROM ANY CHANGES.

10:14:38 THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES GROWTH TO BE

10:14:42 DIRECTED TO THESE AREAS.

10:14:43 THESE THREE AREAS ALLOW FOR THE EXISTING TRANSIT CORRIDORS

10:14:49 TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH.

10:14:50 SO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE.

10:14:54 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:14:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:14:57 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN BOWDEN, CORRECT?




10:15:02 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE STEPHANIE

10:15:04 POYNOR.

10:15:07 JOHN DID REGISTER TO PARTICIPATE, BUT HE DID NOT PHONE IN.

10:15:12 SO THE NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.

10:15:15 STEPHANIE, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND

10:15:18 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:15:20 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:15:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

10:15:22 GO AHEAD.

10:15:22 >> OKAY, SWEET.

10:15:23 I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE CHANGE FOR NUMBER 58 IS FOR

10:15:27 THE F.A.R. ONLY FOR SINGLE USE.

10:15:30 NO MATTER WHETHER OR NOT ANYBODY LIKES IT, BOTTOM LINE IS, I

10:15:34 THINK EVERYONE CAN AGREE THAT MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENTS,

10:15:37 ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, CAN

10:15:41 ALWAYS BE A GOOD THING, TO HAVE A COFFEE SHOP, TO HAVE A

10:15:45 SMALL CORNER STORE AS PART OF A HUGE DEVELOPMENT OF, SAY,

10:15:49 500 APARTMENTS, 600 APARTMENTS, 300 APARTMENTS, IS NEVER

10:15:54 GOING TO BE A BAD THING.

10:15:55 SO THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE HERE KIND OF BEING WHINY ABOUT

10:15:58 THIS TODAY BECAUSE IT'S A BIG SURPRISE TO THEM SINCE THIS

10:16:02 HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA SINCE MARCH OF LAST YEAR SHOULD KIND

10:16:06 OF TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

10:16:08 THERE ARE WAYS AROUND THIS.

10:16:09 IT'S JUST STOPPING THE ONSLAUGHT OF APARTMENTS.




10:16:13 I'D LIKE TO ALSO LET'S GET REAL ABOUT IT.

10:16:18 WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST WEEK, WE HAVE PRESENTED TO THE CITY

10:16:20 COUNCIL IN THE LAST WEEK OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW DEVELOPERS

10:16:23 GOT THEIR WAY IN 2016, AND WE WERE LEFT KICKED TO THE CURB

10:16:28 WITH NO WAY TO DEFEND OURSELVES.

10:16:30 NOW, THOSE OF US THAT STOP BUILDING SOG HAVE SAID, IF WE

10:16:36 SAID IT ONCE, WE SAID IT A HUNDRED TIMES.

10:16:39 WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS FOR SOUTH OF EUCLID, PERIOD.

10:16:41 WE ARE NOT EXPERTS ON ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY,

10:16:47 ACCORDING TO THE DOCUMENTS MS. WELLS HAS GIVEN TO US, WE ARE

10:16:50 NOT EXPERTS ON ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND DON'T

10:16:54 ASPIRE TO BE.

10:16:56 WE ARE FOCUSED ON OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

10:16:59 NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAN HAD ITS FIRST MEETING SINCE

10:17:04 MR. SHELBY VISITED WITH THAN IN 2019, NOVEMBER OF 2019.

10:17:09 SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING UP THAN AND GETTING OUR

10:17:16 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ON BOARD.

10:17:17 IF YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERS WHO

10:17:19 ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING THAN, AND HELPING US MOVE FORWARD,

10:17:24 WE WOULD REALLY BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

10:17:26 OUR NEXT MEETING IS THE 12th OF MAY.

10:17:30 WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME FOLKS FROM EACH NEIGHBORHOOD

10:17:32 ASSOCIATION TO SUPPORT US AND MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF

10:17:36 THE ITEMS ON OUR 14 -- OUR LIST OF 14 ITEMS FROM LAST WEEK.

10:17:41 WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS' SUPPORT.




10:17:44 BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU KNOW, THESE DEVELOPERS OPERATE

10:17:51 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER.

10:17:54 THEY DON'T COLLABORATE AT ALL.

10:17:55 SO I'VE GOT 216 APARTMENTS, NINE-TENTHS OF A MILE FROM

10:18:01 ANOTHER 216 APARTMENTS, AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY ARE

10:18:03 BOTH BUILDING THE SAME THING.

10:18:04 SUPPLY AND DEMAND, FOLKS.

10:18:06 I KNOW WE GOT PEOPLE MOVING TO THE CITY.

10:18:09 YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT THEY ALL WANT TO LIVE HERE IN THIS

10:18:11 DEAD END WHERE WE LIVE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE DEAD IN THE END

10:18:14 LIKE US, BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET OUT FOR THE

10:18:17 THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS, PROBABLY TENS OF

10:18:20 THOUSANDS OF TRIPS THAT THEY'VE ADDED TO OUR COMMUNITY IN

10:18:23 THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

10:18:24 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

10:18:25 HAVE A GOOD DAY!

10:18:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU AS WELL.

10:18:28 THANK YOU.

10:18:29 CARROLL ANN BENNETT IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.

10:18:32 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND PRISCILLA

10:18:38 PARTELL DID REGISTER TO SPEAK, HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT PHONE

10:18:41 IN TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING.

10:18:42 SO THE NEXT REGISTERED SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE SHAWN BROWN.

10:18:45 SHAWN, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND

10:18:48 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.




10:18:52 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

10:18:54 CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?

10:18:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:18:56 >> PERFECT.

10:18:57 SHAWN BROWN HERE, PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

10:19:00 AS STEPHANIE POINTED OUT, LAST NIGHT, HAD THE FIRST THAN

10:19:07 MEETING IN A WHILE WHICH I THINK WE ALL THOUGHT WENT VERY

10:19:10 WELL AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

10:19:12 THAN AND GETTING THAT TO WORK ON SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL

10:19:17 ISSUES FORTHCOMING.

10:19:18 OF COURSE, TODAY, I'M TALKING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 58 IN THE

10:19:21 INTERIM.

10:19:22 NOW, IT IS KIND OF IRONIC THAT DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN

10:19:28 FORCE, AT LEAST WITH THEIR COUNSEL, TO OPPOSE THIS CHANGE.

10:19:32 LOOK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT OCCURRED WITH DEVELOPERS

10:19:36 IS THAT THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SUCH

10:19:41 TIMELY TO SEE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.

10:19:44 WHAT DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANT OUT OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS?

10:19:46 HOW CAN WE BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

10:19:49 IT'S ALL ABOUT PROFIT AND DOLLAR, RIGHT?

10:19:51 THE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE HERE TODAY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE

10:19:54 DEVELOPERS ARE BILLING THEIR CLIENTS SO THEY -- YOU KNOW,

10:19:57 THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING AS JUST A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

10:19:59 THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS.

10:20:01 THIS AFFECTS THEIR PAYCHECK.




10:20:02 FOR US, WE'RE VOLUNTEERS.

10:20:04 WE DON'T GET PAID.

10:20:06 SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THEY ARE HERE, YOU KNOW,

10:20:08 COMPLAINING IS KIND OF IRONIC.

10:20:10 NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, LOOK, MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT IS

10:20:14 NEEDED.

10:20:15 WHY IN THE WORLD CAN PEOPLE BE ABLE TO GO TO A COFFEE SHOP

10:20:18 OR LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM AND START A BUSINESS?

10:20:24 WHY DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO GET IN THE CAR DRIVE 20, 30 MINUTES

10:20:26 AWAY TO SOMEPLACE THEY WANT TO GO TO AND DRIVE 20, 30

10:20:29 MINUTES BACK.

10:20:31 IN THAT TIME, IT COULD BE FLOODED STREETS, CAR ACCIDENTS,

10:20:34 STUFF LIKE THAT.

10:20:35 WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO SACRIFICE QUALITY OF LIFE TO BE ABLE

10:20:37 TO HAVE TO GET IN THEIR CAR TO GO SOMEWHERE WHEN THEY COULD

10:20:40 JUST WALK TO IT OR BIKE TO IT.

10:20:43 WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH THAT?

10:20:45 CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN, CAN ANY OF THE DEVELOPERS EXPLAIN IT?

10:20:48 WHAT IS WRONG WITH HAVING MIXED USE.

10:20:50 THEY WILL ARGUE AND SAY THEY DON'T LIKE TO HAVE GRAYED OUT

10:20:55 STOREFRONTS.

10:20:56 THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE PERCEPTION.

10:20:59 CAN'T FILL IT FAST ENOUGH, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WANT TO

10:21:03 RENT APARTMENT.

10:21:04 THAT IS MALARKEY.




10:21:05 THAT REALLY IS MALARKEY.

10:21:06 LOOK, AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL OF YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THIS.

10:21:10 THE CITY HAS COME UP WITH A VERY LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE

10:21:15 PROPOSAL, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS FAR OVERDUE.

10:21:17 AND IT'S TIME TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, LISTEN TO THE

10:21:21 RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE, THAT ARE LIVING WITH THIS.

10:21:23 THESE PROJECTS ARE DESIGNED TO LAST 50 TO 75 YEARS.

10:21:27 SO WHY -- BUT THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR THE FUTURE.

10:21:31 THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR THE NOW.

10:21:32 IDEALLY, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE

10:21:34 AS WELL.

10:21:35 IT IS SOMETHING THAT -- IT'S JUST TIME TO LISTEN TO US AND

10:21:40 TIME TO ENACT THIS AND GO WITH WHAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING.

10:21:44 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

10:21:46 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

10:21:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:21:48 NEXT UP, STEVE MICHELINI.

10:21:51 >>THE CLERK: STEVE, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, YOU HAVE THREE

10:21:53 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:21:55 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:21:55 THANK YOU.

10:21:56 >>STEVE MICHELINI: AM I ONLINE NOW?

10:21:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

10:21:59 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL ABOUT PROCESS, AND

10:22:05 YOU CAN'T JUMP TO A SUSPENSION OF DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE




10:22:10 CITY BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE OR AT LEAST A PERCEPTION THAT

10:22:13 THERE'S A PROBLEM IN ONE PART OF THE CITY.

10:22:16 THE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR GROWTH AND

10:22:18 DEVELOPMENT, LIKE USF, WESTSHORE, DOWNTOWN, CHANNELSIDE,

10:22:23 YBOR CITY, ALL BEING PENALIZED BECAUSE OF THIS.

10:22:26 THERE IS A CORRECT PROCESS TO BE FOLLOWED, AND SOME OF THE

10:22:30 OTHER SPEAKERS ALREADY MENTIONED IT, WHICH IS GO THROUGH THE

10:22:34 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS.

10:22:38 THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD FOR THE

10:22:41 INFORMATION TO BE FULLY VETTED, AND THEN TO COME BACK TO THE

10:22:44 COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT TO DO.

10:22:48 BY SUSPENDING THROUGH THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL

10:22:52 ORDINANCE, YOU PENALIZE EVERYONE ELSE.

10:22:55 AND I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE ALSO MENTIONED MOST OF THE CITY

10:22:58 DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THIS IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.

10:23:01 THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEVELOPERS TRYING TO GET THEIR WAY.

10:23:04 IT'S ABOUT FOLLOWING THE CORRECT PROCESS.

10:23:07 WE'RE URGING YOU, AND I'M SPEAKING HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

10:23:11 BUILDERS ASSOCIATION NOT TO ADOPT THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT

10:23:15 CONTROL ORDINANCE, BUT TO PLEASE GO AHEAD AND PROCESS THE

10:23:23 PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

10:23:24 LET IT GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS, WHICH IS ORDINARY,

10:23:29 AND IT PROVIDES WHOLE INPUT FOR EVERYONE.

10:23:32 AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

10:23:35 THIS IS ABOUT AFFECTING THE ENTIRE CITY.




10:23:38 WHEN YOU UNDERTAKE THESE MEASURES, YOU HAVE UNINTENDED

10:23:42 CONSEQUENCES.

10:23:42 AND IN THIS CASE, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU WANT TO SHUT DOWN

10:23:45 THE POTENTIAL DORMITORY BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING UP OR

10:23:48 PLANNED TO GO UP AT USF, OR THE REDEVELOPMENT IN THE

10:23:53 WESTSHORE AREA OR IN YBOR OR DOWNTOWN IN CHANNELSIDE.

10:23:57 THESE TRANSIT CORRIDORS ARE DESIGNED FOR INTENSIVE HIGH

10:24:04 DEVELOPMENT.

10:24:04 BY PENALIZING THEM FOR NINE MONTHS IS UNREASONABLE.

10:24:07 SO I GUESS WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT, DO NOT ADOPT

10:24:13 THE INTERIM CONTROL -- DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE, BUT

10:24:16 PLEASE, GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE TAMPA

10:24:22 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO

10:24:26 THAT THE STAFF CAN FULLY INVESTIGATE WHAT ARE THE BEST

10:24:30 SOLUTIONS FOR THIS ISSUE.

10:24:35 IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY AND EXTREME MEASURE THAT IS NOT

10:24:37 WARRANTED.

10:24:38 WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BACKGROUND DATA THAT SUPPORTS THIS.

10:24:41 ANYWAY, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, AND I UNDERSTAND

10:24:47 THAT THE TAMPA BOARD OF REALTORS HAS SUBMITTED A LETTER

10:24:50 WHICH HAS EXACTLY THE SAME AND SIMILAR CONCERNS AS WELL AS

10:24:54 THE OTHER SPEAKERS.

10:24:54 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:24:56 WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

10:24:58 DO NOT ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, BUT PLEASE GO AHEAD AND




10:25:03 TRANSMIT THE REQUESTED CHANGE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

10:25:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

10:25:07 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE?

10:25:09 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, CARROLL ANN BENNETT IS ON THE LINE.

10:25:13 IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOU HAVE

10:25:16 THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

10:25:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARROLL ANN BENNETT, IF YOU'RE ON, GO

10:25:25 AHEAD.

10:25:25 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

10:25:27 >> HI.

10:25:27 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

10:25:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.

10:25:30 GO AHEAD.

10:25:30 >> THIS IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.

10:25:32 I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.

10:25:35 REALLY KIND OF AMAZES ME THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY

10:25:38 THIS SNUCK UP ON THEM.

10:25:39 WE'VE BEEN COMING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A YEAR AND A HALF

10:25:42 ABOUT THIS.

10:25:45 THERE'S NOTHING SECRETIVE ABOUT IT.

10:25:50 THERE'S NO MYSTERY HERE.

10:25:51 WE HAD A WORKSHOP SIX MONTHS AGO.

10:25:53 ON DECEMBER 3rd, MR. DINGFELDER RECOMMENDED A MORATORIUM

10:26:00 ON ALL REZONINGS FOR MULTIFAMILY SOUTH OF GANDY.

10:26:03 AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 4th.




10:26:05 WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOREVER.

10:26:08 I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

10:26:11 AND THIS IS TEMPORARY.

10:26:14 THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY CONFUSING TO ME IS THIS IS

10:26:16 REALLY NOT A HUGE THING.

10:26:21 CITY STAFF HAS SAID THE F.A.R. ISN'T WORKING THE WAY IT WAS

10:26:25 ORIGINALLY INTENDED.

10:26:25 THE BONUS DENSITY ISN'T WORKING THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO

10:26:30 WORK.

10:26:31 YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET YOUR REGULAR DENSITY.

10:26:34 YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET 30 UNITS PER ACRE --

10:26:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, WE'VE LOST YOU.

10:26:45 >> -- SUDDENLY I GOT MUTED.

10:26:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

10:26:49 >> YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HEARD, BUT

10:26:54 YOUR CMU 35, STILL GET 30 UNITS PER ACRE.

10:26:58 MANY OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, PROJECTS THAT THE SOUTH OF

10:27:02 GANDY PEOPLE AND ALL THE SOUTH TAMPA PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

10:27:06 CONCERNED ABOUT, THE F.A.R. WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN.

10:27:10 SO MANY OF THESE, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO AFFECT AT ALL.

10:27:14 I URGE COUNCIL TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.

10:27:18 WE NEED TO HAVE PLANNED GROWTH.

10:27:20 WE NEED TO DIRECT GROWTH WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND STOP

10:27:23 IT WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT

10:27:26 NOW IS THERE IS A FEEDING FRENZY GOING ON IN SOUTH TAMPA.




10:27:30 AND THE INTENSITY OF GROWTH AND THE EFFORTS OF URBANIZATION

10:27:34 ARE CONTRARY TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT LISTS ALL THE

10:27:38 REASONS WHY SOUTH TAMPA IS NOT -- IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO

10:27:44 URBANIZE.

10:27:46 SO IF ALL THESE PLACES ARE BUILT AND THEN A YEAR FROM NOW,

10:27:51 NINE MONTHS FROM NOW, THEY SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT?

10:27:54 YOU'RE RIGHT.

10:27:55 IT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR URBANIZATION, BUT IT'S TOO LATE

10:27:57 BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE URBANIZATION.

10:27:59 ARE YOU GOING TO TEAR ALL THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES DOWN?

10:28:02 I DON'T THINK SO.

10:28:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:28:03 >> I URGE YOU TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS.

10:28:05 THANK YOU.

10:28:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

10:28:06 DOES THAT CONCLUDE ALL THE VIRTUAL PARTICIPANTS?

10:28:11 >>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES THE GENERAL COMMENTS

10:28:15 SECTION.

10:28:15 THANK YOU.

10:28:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:28:16 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.

10:28:19 WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

10:28:26 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE THREE CONFLICTS TODAY UNDER DIFFERENT

10:28:28 HEADINGS, CAN I JUST KNOCK THEM ALL OUT AT THE SAME TIME?

10:28:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS?




10:28:33 >>BILL CARLSON: 20, 26, AND 36.

10:28:38 JUST WHEN WE GO TO THOSE IF WE COULD MAYBE -- I COULD EITHER

10:28:46 STEP OUT NOW AND YOU CAN VOTE ON THOSE, OR WE CAN VOTE ON

10:28:49 THEM AFTER WE VOTE ON THE REST OF THEM.

10:28:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WE GET TO THEM, STEP OUT.

10:28:59 >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO STATE THAT I HAVE A CONFLICT

10:29:02 BECAUSE MY COMPANY DOES BUSINESS WITH PARTIES THAT COULD BE

10:29:08 INVOLVED IN THESE.

10:29:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL RECEIVE AND FILE THE FORMS, DO YOU

10:29:13 WANT TO DO THEM NOW?

10:29:15 >>BILL CARLSON: THERE WAS ONE FROM LAST WEEK, TOO.

10:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THE

10:29:21 DOCUMENTS FROM COUNCILMAN -- COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH A MOTION.

10:29:26 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:29:26 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:29:29 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:29:29 MR. SHELBY.

10:29:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE FOR THE SAKE OF WORKING SEPARATELY,

10:29:35 WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE VOTE ON THOSE ITEMS THEN, AND THEN

10:29:39 HAVE MR. CARLSON JUST NOT SPEAK --

10:29:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PULL THOSE.

10:29:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN I GET TO THE COMMITTEES, I'LL

10:29:46 EXCLUDE THEM AND DO THEM ALL AT ONCE AT THE END SO YOU DON'T

10:29:49 HAVE TO HOP OUT.

10:29:51 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.




10:29:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS 6 THROUGH 8.

10:29:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:29:58 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:30:00 ROLL CALL?

10:30:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:30:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:30:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:30:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:30:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:30:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:30:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:30:12 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:30:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP -- [INAUDIBLE] [INTERFERING

10:30:22 AUDIO]

10:30:27 PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF.

10:30:28 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:30:32 >>THE CLERK: GUDES?

10:30:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:30:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:30:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:30:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:30:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:30:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:30:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:30:42 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.




10:30:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:30:45 11 THROUGH 16, COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, PUBLIC WORKS.

10:30:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:30:51 I MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 16.

10:30:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:30:56 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:30:58 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:30:58 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?

10:30:59 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:31:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:31:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:31:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:31:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:31:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:31:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:31:08 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:31:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:31:13 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ITEMS 17 THROUGH 21 WITH THE EXCEPTION

10:31:17 OF ITEM 20 BECAUSE OF CARLSON'S FORM THAT HE FILED.

10:31:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 17 THROUGH 19 AND ITEM 21.

10:31:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:31:30 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:31:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:31:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:31:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.




10:31:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:31:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:31:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:31:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:31:44 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:31:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING, ZONING AND

10:31:50 PRESERVATION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 22, WHICH WAS MOVED TO

10:31:53 STAFF REPORTS PER THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:31:56 ITEM 26 IN WHICH YOU HAVE A CONFLICT.

10:31:59 AND THEN WE HAVE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR 30, AND THEN FOR

10:32:08 ITEM NUMBER 33, WE'LL READ THAT AFTERWARDS.

10:32:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:32:14 >>BILL CARLSON: I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 23, 24, 25, AND THEN

10:32:22 27 THROUGH 32, INCLUDING THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR 30.

10:32:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:32:31 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:32:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:32:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:32:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:32:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:32:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:32:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:32:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:32:42 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED EWELL.

10:32:45 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE QUICK COMMENT ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 29, I




10:32:48 SPOKE TO CAROLE POST AND ROB ROSNER ABOUT IT.

10:32:53 AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M AGAINST SUBSIDIES OF COMPANIES FOR

10:32:56 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

10:32:57 I THINK OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PEOPLE STAND ALONE BY

10:33:01 THEMSELVES WITHOUT NEEDING SUBSIDIES TO BRING COMPANIES.

10:33:04 CAE GOING BACK ALL THE WAY TO THE REFLECT ON TIMES I

10:33:08 REMEMBER IS A STRATEGIC INDUSTRY IN OUR AREA, BUT THIS IS A

10:33:11 RENEWAL OF THE OLD QTI PROGRAM, WHICH INCLUDES LOTS OF

10:33:17 FEEDBACK FROM THE STATE AND QTI IS INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE

10:33:20 OF OUR AREA, NOT IN SUBSIDIZING A COMPANY DIRECTLY.

10:33:24 AND THIS ONE DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR ORDINANCE WHICH REQUIRES A

10:33:28 SWORN AFFIDAVIT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE STATE REVIEWS THE

10:33:31 QTI PROGRAM.

10:33:32 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR ANYBODY WATCHING.

10:33:35 THANK YOU.

10:33:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FOR YOUR RESEARCH ON THAT BILL.

10:33:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU MIND READING

10:33:43 ITEM NUMBER 33?

10:33:51 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST READ THE RED PART?

10:33:53 LIKE TO MOVE FILE BF 21-68074, A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD

10:33:59 REGARDING A PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION FOR THE

10:34:03 REHABILITATION AND REDEVELOPMENT OF ONE PARCEL,

10:34:05 APPROXIMATELY 25.96 ACRES IN SIZE, LOCATED AT 7210 INTERBAY

10:34:09 BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33616.

10:34:13 THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT THE ELK LODGE LOCATED AT




10:34:16 3616 WEST GANDY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33611 ON MAY 4, 2021 AT

10:34:23 5:30 P.M. UNTIL NOT LATER THAN 6:30 P.M.

10:34:27 AS A PRECAUTION DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, MASKS WILL BE

10:34:30 REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE HEARING AND THE SEATING WILL BE

10:34:33 SET UP IN A MANNER TO ENSURE DISTANCING IS MAINTAINED.

10:34:36 HAND SANITIZER WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL PARTICIPANTS.

10:34:39 REQUEST FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ANNOUNCE THE DATE, TIME, AND

10:34:43 LOCATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD FOR THE PROPOSED

10:34:45 BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF INTERBAY REDEVELOPMENT AREA

10:34:52 BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION LOCATED AT 7210 INTERBAY

10:34:55 BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33616.

10:35:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.

10:35:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

10:35:03 CARLSON.

10:35:04 SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:35:08 >> THIS IS JAN McLEAN, OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.

10:35:11 THERE IS NO VOTE NEEDED ON THIS ITEM.

10:35:13 WE JUST NEEDED THE ANNOUNCEMENT READ.

10:35:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

10:35:20 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:35:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:35:22 ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

10:35:27 COUNCILMAN VIERA, 34 AND 35.

10:35:28 WE'LL TAKE 36 SEPARATELY.

10:35:34 >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVE 34 AND 35.




10:35:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:35:37 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:35:37 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:35:39 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:35:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:35:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:35:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:35:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:35:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:35:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:35:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS GOING

10:35:49 TO STEP OUT.

10:35:50 WE'LL TAKE THE REMAINING ITEMS ON A SEPARATE VOTE.

10:35:53 ITEM NUMBER 20, IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM.

10:35:56 >> SO MOVED.

10:35:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:35:58 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:36:00 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:36:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:36:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:36:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:36:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:36:12 >> CARLSON?

10:36:13 CITRO.

10:36:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.




10:36:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:36:15 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

10:36:17 ABSTAINING.

10:36:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 26, CAN I GET A

10:36:21 MOTION?

10:36:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE 26 AND 36.

10:36:24 HOW ABOUT THAT?

10:36:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, MOTION TO MOVE 26

10:36:35 AND 36.

10:36:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:36:37 ROLL CALL VOTE?

10:36:38 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

10:36:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:36:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:36:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:36:43 >> CARLSON?

10:36:44 CITRO.

10:36:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:36:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:36:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:36:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON

10:36:50 ABSTAINING.

10:36:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWICE AS FAST.

10:36:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU CAN COME BACK

10:36:55 IN.




10:36:56 CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS 37 THROUGH --

10:37:04 WELL, IT'S ALREADY PAST 10:30.

10:37:07 37 THROUGH 47.

10:37:13 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:37:14 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:37:16 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:37:17 AYE.

10:37:18 ALL HEARINGS ARE OPEN.

10:37:19 ITEM 37, THIS IS A SECOND READING.

10:37:23 IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 37?

10:37:31 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

10:37:32 THIS IS JAN McLEAN OF THE OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.

10:37:36 THE MOBILITY -- DIRECTOR OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, WE ARE

10:37:40 HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

10:37:43 THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE.

10:37:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

10:37:49 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:37:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:37:53 ONE OF MY BIGGEST OBJECTIONS TO THIS AND THIS GOES ALL THE

10:37:57 WAY BACK TO NOVEMBER OR THE FALL WHEN WE FIRST ADOPTED IT, I

10:38:02 THINK IT'S A TREMENDOUS DELEGATION OF COUNCIL'S POWERS.

10:38:07 I THINK THAT THAT'S A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.

10:38:12 I THINK THAT -- AND THE REASON I SAY THAT, IT'S NOT A POWER

10:38:18 TRIP, BUT IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO GET

10:38:24 -- TO HAVE INPUT TO CITY GOVERNMENT.




10:38:27 AND THAT'S THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.

10:38:29 AND WE SAW THAT AS RELATED TO SOME OF THE CHURCH ISSUES THAT

10:38:34 RELATED TO THIS -- I'D SAY CHURCH ISSUE, SOME OF THE SUNDAY

10:38:39 PARKING ISSUES AS RELATED TO THIS.

10:38:40 THE ADMINISTRATION DID ONE THING, AND THEN THEY BASICALLY

10:38:44 IGNORED THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE SUNDAY PARKING.

10:38:49 IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS COUNCIL AND OUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS

10:38:52 THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE ORDINANCE, I DON'T BELIEVE IT

10:38:57 WOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED.

10:38:59 I THINK IN THIS TYPE OF THING WHERE THESE THINGS IMPACT ON A

10:39:06 DAY-TO-DAY BASIS THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SHOULDN'T DELEGATE

10:39:09 THE AUTHORITIES AND THAT'S WHY I VOTED AGAINST IT AND WILL

10:39:11 CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST IT.

10:39:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:39:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:39:16 I APPRECIATE ANYTHING THAT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, MY COLLEAGUES

10:39:19 SAY.

10:39:20 I APPRECIATE THEIR INTEREST AND THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT CERTAIN

10:39:24 MATTERS.

10:39:24 HOWEVER, THIS IS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT GOVERNMENT IS

10:39:28 ALL ABOUT.

10:39:29 IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT.

10:39:32 IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE WANT, THE COUNCIL.

10:39:35 IDEALISM OF MEETING SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, HAVING A

10:39:38 DISCUSSION AND COMING UP WITH A RESULT.




10:39:40 IF YOU THINK WASHINGTON IS BAD, I DON'T WANT THAT TYPE OF

10:39:44 FEELING, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL OF WASHINGTON.

10:39:47 I'M TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS.

10:39:50 WHEN YOU COME DOWN TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, I DON'T WANT TO BE

10:39:54 LIKE THEY ARE, AND I'M NOT IN ANY WAY MAKING ANY ASSERTION

10:39:57 ABOUT ANY MEMBER SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL.

10:40:01 BUT THIS IS A PROJECT, A PROCESS THAT HAS WORKED OUT.

10:40:04 WHEN YOU GO BACK IN HISTORY, THIS WASN'T STARTED YESTERDAY.

10:40:08 THIS WAS STARTED MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.

10:40:12 BY THE WAY, I DON'T BELIEVE I WAS HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED.

10:40:15 I HAD SERVED PRIOR AND SERVED AFTER.

10:40:18 THIS IS THE PARKING REGULATIONS THAT WE -- WHAT I CALL A

10:40:23 MISTAKE OR AN ERROR IN JUDGMENT.

10:40:24 SOUTH OF KENNEDY WAS ONE THING.

10:40:27 NORTH OF KENNEDY WAS ANOTHER DURING DIFFERENT TIMES.

10:40:29 YES, THIS WAS NOT INVOLVED AT THE TIME.

10:40:31 HOWEVER, BECAUSE THAT INCIDENT AND ANOTHER INCIDENT ABOUT

10:40:35 SELLING A PARKING GARAGE CAUSED THIS DEPARTMENT TO BE IN THE

10:40:40 RED.

10:40:40 AND WHEN THIS DEPARTMENT IS IN THE RED, WHO IS PAYING FOR

10:40:43 IT?

10:40:43 THE TOTAL RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY.

10:40:50 THE TOTAL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

10:40:56 I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN.

10:40:57 WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A WORKABLE DOCUMENT THAT WAS WORKED OUT




10:41:01 WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE LEGAL

10:41:05 PROCESS OF THE AVENUES TO COME UP WITH A WORKABLE AGREEMENT

10:41:09 AT LEAST FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING

10:41:13 ON AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

10:41:16 MANY YEARS AGO, THERE WERE OVER 600 RESIDENTS, AND 300 OF

10:41:21 THEM WERE SERVING JAIL TIME NEXT TO THE EXPRESSWAY OF THE

10:41:25 JAIL HOUSE.

10:41:26 EVOLUTION CHANGES, TIME CHANGES, PEOPLE TRY TO STAY SOMEWHAT

10:41:34 REALISTIC.

10:41:35 YOU CAN HAVE OPINIONS ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, BUT SOMEHOW

10:41:37 WE WORK IT OUT.

10:41:38 BUT HISTORY, WHEN IT'S HISTORY, YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND CHANGE

10:41:45 IT.

10:41:45 YOU CAN ONLY AMEND IT TO MAKE IT BETTER.

10:41:48 THIS IS ONE OF THE CASES THAT WE'RE AMENDING SOMETHING TO

10:41:50 MAKE IT WORKABLE.

10:41:51 LIKE WHAT CAME DOWN?

10:41:53 ABSOLUTELY NOT.

10:41:54 LIKE WHAT'S GOING UP TO THEM?

10:41:56 MAYBE ABSOLUTELY NOT, TOO.

10:41:57 I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.

10:41:59 BUT THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS HAMMERED OUT, WORKED OUT

10:42:02 IN THE OPEN PUBLIC.

10:42:03 THERE WAS NOTHING HIDDEN ABOUT THIS.

10:42:07 I APPRECIATE THE CONSECRATION OF ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.




10:42:09 IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR VOTE, FOR OR AGAINST.

10:42:12 THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

10:42:12 IT MATTERS THAT WE WORKED IT OUT.

10:42:15 SOMETIMES I VOTE ALONE.

10:42:16 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M RIGHT.

10:42:18 THAT MEANS THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

10:42:20 HISTORY WILL JUDGE US ALL, RIGHT OR WRONG IN THAT PERIOD OF

10:42:26 TIME.

10:42:26 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:42:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:42:29 ANYBODY ELSE?

10:42:29 ALL RIGHT.

10:42:32 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS MOTION?

10:42:35 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:42:38 YES, SIR.

10:42:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

10:42:40 ITEM NUMBER 37, FILE NUMBER E2021-8, CHAPTER 13, ORDINANCE

10:42:48 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

10:42:52 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATED TO

10:42:54 PARKING METER REGULATIONS; MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF

10:42:57 TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15, PARKING; AMENDING

10:43:01 ARTICLE 2, REGULATIONS; PERMITS; PENALTIES, DIVISION 2,

10:43:04 PARKING METER REGULATIONS, SECTION 15-81, HOURS OF OPERATION

10:43:08 FOR PARKING METERS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF

10:43:11 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR




10:43:14 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:43:16 SAID MOTION ON FIRST READING HAS BEEN INITIATED BY CITRO AND

10:43:19 MIRANDA, MARCH 18, 2021.

10:43:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:43:24 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

10:43:27 COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR?

10:43:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS MR. BHIDE ON THE LINE?

10:43:34 >> YES, HE IS.

10:43:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE SURE THAT THE PROVISIONS WE TALKED

10:43:37 ABOUT EARLIER AS IT RELATES TO YBOR AND THOSE SUGGESTED

10:43:39 ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE AGREED UPON.

10:43:41 >> YES, SIR, I ASSURE YOU, AS DISCUSSED, WE'RE WORKING ON

10:43:44 THOSE ITEMS AS WE SPEAK.

10:43:49 WE'VE MET WITH MORE STAKEHOLDERS WITH YBOR YESTERDAY, AND

10:43:50 THE PROCESS HAS CONTINUED.

10:43:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:43:55 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:43:56 A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

10:43:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:43:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:44:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.

10:44:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:44:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:44:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:44:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.




10:44:10 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER AND

10:44:13 MANISCALCO VOTING NO.

10:44:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:44:16 >>BILL CARLSON: WHILE WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC, I WANT TO

10:44:19 CONGRATULATE MR. BHIDE AND HIS STAFF FOR THE TECHNOLOGY THEY

10:44:22 ARE PUTTING IN.

10:44:23 I THINK THE FIRST SITE THAT I'VE SEEN ANYWAY IS AT THE POE

10:44:28 GARAGE.

10:44:29 I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THINGS ACCESSIBLE

10:44:32 TO LOTS OF APPS, BUT GOING TO THE ARTS GROUPS OVER IN THAT

10:44:36 AREA, I USE THAT AND TO THE PARKS, I USE THAT ONE A LOT.

10:44:41 MY COMPANY IS IN YBOR, SO I USE THOSE.

10:44:43 OF COURSE, THE ONES DOWN HERE.

10:44:45 BUT THE TECHNOLOGY IS WORKING REALLY WELL, AND I LOOK

10:44:47 FORWARD TO WHAT YOU ALL WILL BE DEVELOPING IN TERMS OF

10:44:50 CUSTOMER SERVICE TO MAKE IT FASTER FOR PEOPLE TO GO IN AND

10:44:54 OUT OF OUR PARKING GARAGES.

10:44:55 THANK YOU.

10:44:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:44:57 ALL RIGHT.

10:44:59 WE'VE OPENED ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO WE GO TO ITEM 38.

10:45:02 THESE ARE ALL SECOND READINGS.

10:45:07 THESE ARE THE DESIGNATIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT PARKS AND

10:45:11 WHATNOT.

10:45:16 >> CITY COUNCIL, IF I MAY, ITEM NUMBER 38 IS TA/CPA 20-33.




10:45:21 IT IS A SECOND READING FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 105 WEST

10:45:24 SLIGH AVENUE FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL

10:45:27 35.

10:45:28 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

10:45:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

10:45:32 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON

10:45:35 ITEM NUMBER 38?

10:45:36 WE DO NOT.

10:45:41 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

10:45:43 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:45:45 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:45:46 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:45:48 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 38?

10:45:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GLAD TO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:45:54 GOOD MORNING, MS. MALONE.

10:45:57 REGARDING TO ITEM 38, FILE TA/CPA 20-33, I'LL READ THE

10:46:03 FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

10:46:05 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

10:46:08 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE

10:46:11 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 105 WEST SLIGH AVENUE, FROM

10:46:14 PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL-35; PROVIDING FOR

10:46:20 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR

10:46:23 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:46:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

10:46:26 DINGFELDER AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.




10:46:29 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:46:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:46:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:46:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:46:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:46:38 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?

10:46:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA, YOU'RE MUTED, SIR.

10:46:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:46:46 >>THE CLERK: VIERA?

10:46:52 MANISCALCO?

10:46:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:46:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING

10:46:55 ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:46:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:46:57 NEXT IS ITEM 39.

10:47:06 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

10:47:08 ITEM NUMBER 39 IS FOR BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD PARK FROM

10:47:08 RESIDENTIAL 6 TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.

10:47:09 THIS IS RETAINING THE USE AS A PARK, AND IT WILL BE

10:47:12 RECOGNIZED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

10:47:14 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

10:47:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:47:16 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER

10:47:19 39?

10:47:19 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.




10:47:25 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:47:26 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:47:27 COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 39.

10:47:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE TA/CPA 20-35, AN ORDINANCE BEING

10:47:39 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE

10:47:42 AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE

10:47:47 LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY

10:47:50 LOCATED AT 2711 NORTH DUNDEE STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL-6, R-6,

10:47:55 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF

10:48:01 ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,

10:48:04 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:48:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:48:07 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:48:09 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:48:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:48:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:48:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:48:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:48:18 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:48:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:48:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:48:23 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:48:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 40.

10:48:28 >>JENNIFER MALONE: ITEM NUMBER 40 IS TA/CPA 20-36,

10:48:35 RECOGNIZING CYRUS GREENE PARK UNDER THE RECREATIONAL OPEN




10:48:42 SPACE.

10:48:43 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

10:48:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

10:48:47 WE DO NOT.

10:48:47 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK?

10:48:49 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

10:48:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER

10:48:52 MIRANDA.

10:48:53 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:48:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:48:56 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:48:57 AYE.

10:48:58 COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER

10:49:03 40?

10:49:07 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER TA/CPA

10:49:11 20-36, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

10:49:15 ADOPTION.

10:49:15 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

10:49:20 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE

10:49:23 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2101 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.

10:49:26 BOULEVARD, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CYRUS GREENE PARK FROM

10:49:30 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND RECREATION/OPEN SPACE TO

10:49:34 RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

10:49:37 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

10:49:39 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.




10:49:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

10:49:44 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:49:46 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:49:48 >> CITRO?

10:49:50 MIRANDA?

10:49:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:49:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:49:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:49:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:49:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:49:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:49:57 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITRO BEING

10:49:59 ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:50:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 41.

10:50:03 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING

10:50:06 COMMISSION.

10:50:06 ITEM 41 IS TA/CPA 20-37.

10:50:10 IT IS PHILLIPS PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN

10:50:15 SPACE.

10:50:15 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

10:50:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

10:50:18 WE DO NOT.

10:50:19 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK.

10:50:21 I WAS TOLD THAT THE SECOND FLOOR IS EMPTY OF ANYONE, DO WE

10:50:26 HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM?




10:50:28 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS.

10:50:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:50:33 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:50:34 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:50:35 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:50:36 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 41.

10:50:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE TA/CPA 20-37, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR

10:50:47 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE

10:50:49 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT,

10:50:53 FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 805 WEST

10:50:56 COLUMBUS DRIVE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PHILLIPS PARK, FROM

10:50:59 RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE; PROVIDING FOR

10:51:02 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR

10:51:05 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:51:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:51:08 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:51:10 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:51:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:51:12 >> CITRO?

10:51:13 MIRANDA?

10:51:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:51:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:51:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:51:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:51:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.




10:51:19 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:51:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS,

10:51:27 ITEM NUMBER 42.

10:51:29 FAVORITE PARKS.

10:51:29 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING

10:51:31 COMMISSION.

10:51:32 ITEM 42 IS TA/CPA 20-38.

10:51:36 IT IS THE VILA BROTHERS PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL 20 TO

10:51:38 RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE.

10:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

10:51:42 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 42?

10:51:46 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:51:47 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:51:49 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:51:49 ALL RIGHT.

10:51:52 WE WENT DOWN THE LIST.

10:51:54 COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER

10:51:56 42?

10:51:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:51:59 MOVE FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 20-38, MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING

10:52:04 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

10:52:06 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

10:52:11 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE

10:52:14 LOCATION AT 700 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS

10:52:18 VILA BROTHERS PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL-20 (R-20) TO




10:52:25 RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS); PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

10:52:30 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;

10:52:33 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:52:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

10:52:35 MIRANDA.

10:52:35 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

10:52:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:52:39 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:52:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:52:46 >> GUDES?

10:52:46 DINGFELDER?

10:52:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:52:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:52:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:52:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:52:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:52:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH GUDES BEING

10:52:57 ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:52:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

10:53:00 NEXT IS ITEM 43.

10:53:05 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING

10:53:06 COMMISSION.

10:53:07 ITEM 43 IS TA/CPA 20-39 RECOGNIZING THE ROBERT C. GARDNER

10:53:13 PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL-35 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE.

10:53:19 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.




10:53:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

10:53:23 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

10:53:25 ITEM NUMBER 43?

10:53:27 CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?

10:53:28 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:53:31 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:53:33 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:53:36 COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM

10:53:38 NUMBER 43?

10:53:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

10:53:41 IN REGARD TO FILE TA/CPA 20-39, I MOVE THE FOLLOWING

10:53:46 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

10:53:48 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

10:53:52 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE

10:53:55 PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2211 NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE,

10:54:00 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS ROBERT C. GARDNER PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL

10:54:03 35 (R-35) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS); PROVIDING FOR

10:54:09 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR

10:54:12 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:54:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

10:54:16 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:54:18 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:54:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:54:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:54:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.




10:54:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:54:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:54:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:54:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:54:29 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:54:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 44, OUR LAST SECOND READING, GO

10:54:33 AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:54:34 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING

10:54:36 COMMISSION.

10:54:36 ITEM 44 IS TA/CPA 20-40.

10:54:40 IT IS RECOGNIZING THE MARTI-COLON CEMETERY FROM PUBLIC/SEMI

10:54:49 PUBLIC TO RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR

10:54:49 QUESTIONS.

10:54:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HERE FOR ITEM FOR

10:54:51 44?

10:54:52 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

10:54:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:54:56 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:54:57 COUNCILMAN VIERA, 44, PLEASE.

10:55:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.

10:55:03 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

10:55:06 ADOPTION.

10:55:06 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

10:55:10 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE

10:55:16 PARK OR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3110 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE,




10:55:22 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS MARTI-COLON CEMETERY, FROM

10:55:25 PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC (P/SP) AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35

10:55:29 (CC-35) TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE (R/OS); PROVIDING FOR

10:55:35 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR

10:55:38 SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:55:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.

10:55:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.

10:55:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

10:55:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

10:55:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

10:55:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

10:55:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:55:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:55:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:55:56 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:55:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.

10:55:59 WE'VE ALREADY OPENED THE 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH THE

10:56:03 ORIGINAL MOTION TO OPEN EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

10:56:05 ITEM 45, THERE IS A REQUEST FROM MR. MICHELINI, THE

10:56:10 PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE, THAT THIS BE REMOVED OR

10:56:13 WITHDRAWN FROM THE AGENDA.

10:56:15 CAN WE GET A MOTION TO WITHDRAW?

10:56:17 MOTION TO WITHDRAW FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

10:56:19 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CITRO.

10:56:21 ALL IN FAVOR?




10:56:22 AYE.

10:56:23 ALL RIGHT.

10:56:23 ITEM NUMBER 46, WE HAVE A LETTER FROM MR. JOHN GRANDOFF, THE

10:56:27 PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE, REQUESTING THAT THE REVIEW

10:56:29 HEARING BE RESET FOR A DATE IN MAY OR JUNE.

10:56:32 I KNOW MAY IS FILLING UP.

10:56:34 SO I WAS THINKING JUNE 17 --

10:56:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE WHO

10:56:41 ARE PRESENT TO SPEAK TO THAT, EITHER SIGNED IN OR DOWN

10:56:44 STAIRS.

10:56:45 COULD WE CONFIRM?

10:56:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR 46?

10:56:50 WAS THERE A VIRTUAL SPEAKER FOR 46.

10:56:51 >>THE CLERK: NO.

10:56:52 I HAVE NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.

10:56:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN PERSON?

10:56:56 I KNOW THAT THE ROOM IS EMPTY, BUT JUST FOR SAFETY, IS THERE

10:57:01 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

10:57:03 ON 46.

10:57:06 NO.

10:57:09 >> MOVE TO RESET FILE VRB 20-60-C UNTIL JUNE 17.

10:57:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

10:57:19 SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.

10:57:20 ALL IN FAVOR?

10:57:21 ITEM NUMBER 47.




10:57:27 THIS IS TO VACATE AN ALLEY.

10:57:30 WHOM DO WE HAVE HERE FOR 47?

10:57:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS MOTION,

10:57:35 COUNCILMAN?

10:57:35 DID YOU SET THE TIME ON THAT?

10:57:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 9 A.M.

10:57:40 EXCUSE ME, 10:30.

10:57:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:30, JUNE 17.

10:57:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PETITIONER OR THE INTERESTED PERSONS

10:57:48 WILL LEARN OF THAT THROUGH THIS MEETING AND THROUGH THE

10:57:51 ACTION AGENDA AND PERHAPS THROUGH THE STAFF.

10:57:53 THANK YOU.

10:57:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

10:57:55 ALL RIGHT.

10:57:56 ITEM NUMBER 47.

10:58:01 >> ROSS SAMONS WITH DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT DIVISION AND

10:58:04 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DIVISION.

10:58:05 BRINGING FORWARD ITEM NUMBER 47, FILE VAC 21-05.

10:58:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, PLEASE RAISE

10:58:14 YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

10:58:17 I SEE ANOTHER GENTLEMAN ON THE LINE, BISHOP IS THE LAST

10:58:24 NAME.

10:58:25 IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON ITEM 47, JUST RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND,

10:58:28 WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

10:58:30 [OATH ADMINISTERED]




10:58:39 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

10:58:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION, SIR.

10:58:41 GO AHEAD.

10:58:43 >> IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.

10:59:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S COMING UP.

10:59:04 GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:59:05 CITY OF TAMPA LOGO AS THE BACKGROUND.

10:59:18 IS THAT YOUR SCREEN?

10:59:20 THERE WE GO.

10:59:22 I SEE THE PowerPoint.

10:59:23 JUST MAKE IT BIGGER AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

10:59:35 >> THEY WISH TO VACATE THE EAST AND WEST PORTION, UNIMPROVED

10:59:39 ALLEY LYING SOUTH OF CURTIS STREET.

10:59:41 NORTH OF HILDA STREET, AND EAST OF NORTH BOULEVARD AND WEST

10:59:46 OF CLEARFIELD AVENUE.

10:59:48 THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED -- FIRST EXTENSION LOCATED NEAR

10:59:54 McFARLANE PARK.

10:59:57 A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND FOR THIS APPLICATION.

11:00:01 THE COAPPLICANTS OWN PARCELS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY

11:00:05 AND THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR APPLICATION IS BECAUSE

11:00:10 PURCHASED HOMES FROM NEIL HOMES AND THE ALLEY WAS FENCED AT

11:00:14 THE TIME OF PURCHASE AND THEY ARE REPLACE -- REQUESTING THE

11:00:17 ALLEY BE VACATED AND FENCE ALLOWED TO REMAIN AS IS.

11:00:22 THE PORTION OF THE ALLEY IS NOT IN USE BY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS

11:00:26 AND IT WILL BE EASIER TO MAINTAIN FOR EVERYONE IF VACATED.




11:00:30 I WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THERE ARE CODE VIOLATIONS FOR

11:00:33 BOTH ADDRESSES FOR FENCE IN THE ALLEY.

11:00:36 THAT'S OBVIOUS.

11:00:37 AS YOU'LL SEE HERE, PARCELS OUTLINED IN RED ARE THE ONES IN

11:00:47 QUESTION.

11:00:48 THE ALLEYWAY IS IN YELLOW.

11:00:51 HERE IS CLEARFIELD AVENUE.

11:00:55 CURRENTLY, THIS IS UNIMPROVED AND NOT BEING USED.

11:00:59 ALSO, AGAIN, HERE, THERE IS A NORTH-SOUTH SECTION THAT IS

11:01:06 NOT TO BE EVALUATED.

11:01:07 ONLY EAST AND WEST SECTION HERE.

11:01:09 AGAIN, THIS IS A PORTION OF THE PLAT OF SPRING -- PLAT BOOK

11:01:16 23, PAGE 71.

11:01:20 HERE IS THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING WEST FROM CLEARFIELD AVENUE.

11:01:23 AND THERE'S THE FENCE IN QUESTION.

11:01:28 HERE IS AN ALLEYWAY LOOKING NORTH FROM HILDA STREET.

11:01:31 THIS IS THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY.

11:01:34 NOT TO BE VACATED.

11:01:36 ALSO, AGAIN, LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE CURTIS STREET, NORTH AND

11:01:40 SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY NOT TO BE VACATED.

11:01:43 ACCESS TO GARAGE BEHIND 606 WEST CURTIS STREET.

11:01:48 AND THIS IS THE SAME IMAGE PREVIOUS BEFORE THE FENCE WAS

11:01:52 ERECTED FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

11:01:55 THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE ALLEY.

11:02:01 THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM CLEARFIELD AVENUE, AND THIS WAS




11:02:04 VACATED BY ORDINANCE 9181A IN 1985.

11:02:09 THIS IS PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM CURTIS STREET.

11:02:16 THE COAPPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH TO CURTIS STREET.

11:02:22 AND CURRENTLY, THE STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO VACATING

11:02:26 REQUESTED BASED ON RESPONSES RECEIVED FROM THE REVIEWING

11:02:29 AGENCY.

11:02:31 VACATING REQUEST IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EASEMENTS FOR

11:02:35 WASTEWATER AND FRONTIER WILL NEED TO BE RESERVED OVERALL

11:02:39 CONDITIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES, MUST BE INCLUDED IN

11:02:42 APPROVING ORDINANCE.

11:02:48 >> DID WE ALREADY HEAR FROM STAFF?

11:02:50 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMON.

11:02:56 ANY QUESTIONS?

11:02:59 FIRST BITE AT THE APPLE.

11:03:04 SORRY, PETITIONER.

11:03:17 MR. BISHOP.

11:03:19 I COULD HAVE SWORN HE WAS THE PETITIONER.

11:03:27 MR. BISHOP, PLEASE PROCEED.

11:03:29 >> I WAS JUST HERE ON BEHALF OF BENJAMIN AND CATHERINE

11:03:34 LIEBER -- [AUDIO BREAKING UP] OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF

11:03:42 ANYBODY HAS THEM.

11:03:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

11:03:47 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 47?

11:03:51 ANYBODY FOR ITEM 47?

11:03:56 I KNOW THE ROOM IS EMPTY.




11:03:58 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

11:03:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH A MOTION TO CLOSE.

11:04:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH A SECOND.

11:04:03 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:04:05 ALL RIGHT.

11:04:07 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS ITEM, 47?

11:04:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.

11:04:11 FILE VAC 21-05, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

11:04:17 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING

11:04:20 AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF A RIGHT-OF-WAY (ALLEYWAY)

11:04:25 LOCATED SOUTH OF CURTIS STREET, NORTH OF HILDA STREET, EAST

11:04:29 OF NORTH BOULEVARD AND WEST OF CLEARFIELD AVENUE WITHIN THE

11:04:32 REVISED PLAT OF SPRING HEIGHTS, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF

11:04:37 TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED

11:04:40 IN SECTION 1 HEREOF; SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENT

11:04:43 RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTIONS AS

11:04:49 MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

11:04:52 DATE.

11:04:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:04:54 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:04:56 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:04:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:04:58 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.

11:05:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:05:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.




11:05:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:05:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:05:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:05:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.

11:05:14 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 20th, 2021

11:05:18 AT 9:30 A.M.

11:05:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

11:05:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THE EARLY PART OF THE

11:05:26 AGENDA.

11:05:26 SO WE ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

11:05:28 WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED

11:05:30 BUSINESS.

11:05:31 FOR ITEM 48, IT DOES SAY ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.

11:05:36 I DON'T BELIEVE THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAD ANYTHING.

11:05:38 IF THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS ON THE LINE, I KNOW WE ARE MOVING

11:05:41 QUICKER THAN USUAL.

11:05:43 IS HE OR NO?

11:05:44 WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE MR. BRAD BAIRD.

11:05:51 WE'LL GO TO ITEM 49.

11:05:52 I KNOW WE HAVE A MEMO HERE FOR $4.4 MILLION ITEM.

11:05:56 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAIRD?

11:05:59 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW --

11:06:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DIDN'T HAVE -- GOOD MORNING, BRAD.

11:06:05 I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON ITEM 49.

11:06:08 ITEM 50 AND 51, SPECIFICALLY ITEM 50, I WANTED MR. BAIRD TO




11:06:18 PUBLICLY TELL US THE WMBE PERCENTAGES BECAUSE I THINK THEY

11:06:24 ARE GREATLY IMPROVED AND IMPROVING, AND I THINK THAT'S

11:06:28 SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.

11:06:31 WE'RE NOT DONE, BUT WE'RE GETTING BETTER.

11:06:41 >>BRAD BAIRD: DO YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS ITEM 49 FIRST?

11:06:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, JUST 50.

11:06:46 SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION ON 49, I DON'T KNOW.

11:06:52 >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

11:06:54 BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

11:06:59 ITEM 50 IS CONSTRUCTION OF THE DAVID L. TIPPIN WATER

11:07:06 TREATMENT FACILITY HIGH SERVICE PUMPING STATION AND

11:07:10 MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENTS.

11:07:11 IT INCLUDES NEW CHLORINE CONTACT BASIN, NEW CENTER CLEAR

11:07:18 WELL, BACK WASH PUMPING STATION.

11:07:23 BLENDING CHAMBER AND, OF COURSE, THE HIGH SERVICE PUMPING

11:07:26 STATION ITSELF.

11:07:28 BASICALLY THE HEART OF OUR TREATMENT PLANT THAT PROVIDES THE

11:07:32 PRESSURE THROUGHOUT OUR SYSTEM.

11:07:34 THE WMBE PARTICIPATION IN TOTAL, WE HAVE 15 FIRMS THAT WERE

11:07:43 CERTIFIED BY THE CITY.

11:07:45 A TOTAL OF 12.3% GOAL WAS ACHIEVED AT $8.1 MILLION OF WHICH

11:07:55 WE HAD BBE PARTICIPATION OF 8.6%, AND THAT WAS A TOTAL OF

11:07:59 SIX FIRMS.

11:08:03 WBE PARTICIPATION OF 2.9%, AND THAT WAS A TOTAL OF THREE

11:08:07 FIRMS.




11:08:07 AND HBE PARTICIPATION OF .64 PERCENT, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS

11:08:20 THREE FIRMS AS WELL.

11:08:21 AND, FINALLY, SLBE PARTICIPATION OF .14 PERCENT, AND THAT

11:08:30 WAS THREE FIRMS AS WELL.

11:08:32 SO WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF WORKING WITH THE DESIGN-BUILD

11:08:39 TEAM TO MAXIMIZE PARTICIPATION ON THIS PROJECT.

11:08:43 >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND BRAD, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND

11:08:47 YOUR TEAM AND MR. HART AND EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED FOR THOSE

11:08:50 GREATLY IMPROVED NUMBERS.

11:08:51 THANK YOU, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

11:08:54 >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.

11:08:56 YOU'RE WELCOME.

11:08:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BAIRD, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A

11:09:00 FORMULA TO FIND OUR WAY NOW, IT SEEMS THAT WAY, AS WE'RE

11:09:02 MOVING UP THE LADDER.

11:09:04 I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR UNDERSTANDING

11:09:08 WHAT COUNCIL'S INTENT IS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE

11:09:10 HEARING FROM FOLKS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS

11:09:12 GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY.

11:09:13 IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN THE MESSAGE, AND I

11:09:16 APPRECIATE YOU WORKING SO HARD TO KEEP THOSE NUMBERS MOVING.

11:09:20 THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK.

11:09:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:09:23 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:09:24 >>BILL CARLSON: I ASKED THIS QUESTION PRIVATELY BY E-MAIL.




11:09:29 BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK IT PUBLICLY SO THE PUBLIC COULD

11:09:36 SEE.

11:09:37 ON THESE THREE ITEMS, CAN YOU JUST ASSURE US THAT NONE OF

11:09:37 THAT MONEY OR NONE OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE TO FUND OR SUPPORT

11:09:38 TOILET TO TAP?

11:09:39 IT'S FOR THE ONGOING OPERATIONS OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT,

11:09:46 CORRECT?

11:09:46 >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.

11:09:48

11:09:49 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

11:09:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:09:52 ANYBODY ELSE?

11:09:52 NO?

11:09:53 SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 49?

11:09:59 >> I'LL MOVE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:10:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:10:08 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:10:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:10:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:10:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:10:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:10:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:10:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:10:21 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:10:23 >> ITEM 50, ANYBODY ELSE FOR 50?




11:10:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M GOOD.

11:10:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:10:37 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:10:39 ITEM NUMBER 50.

11:10:40 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:10:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:10:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:10:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:10:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:10:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:10:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:10:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:10:51 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:10:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:10:53 NEXT IS 51 WHICH IS PART 2.

11:10:55 GO AHEAD.

11:10:56 WHO WISHES TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?

11:10:58 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:11:02 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:11:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:11:06 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:11:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:11:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:11:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:11:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.




11:11:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:11:12 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:11:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE GO TO MR. ROSNER FOR 52,

11:11:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER PULLED ITEM NUMBER 22.

11:11:21 IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER 22, AN

11:11:26 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES, I

11:11:28 BELIEVE.

11:11:29 MR. ROGERO, ARE YOU HERE FOR THAT ONE, SIR?

11:11:38 >> YES, SIR.

11:11:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME GIVE A PREFACE AND ABBREVIATE

11:11:43 THIS TREMENDOUSLY.

11:11:44 TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE THIS IS A $17 MILLION

11:11:47 PASS-THROUGH ITEM.

11:11:48 WE HAVE BEEN PASSING THROUGH A LOT OF FEDERAL MONEY --

11:11:51 >>> 72,000.

11:11:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:11:56 WE HAVE BEEN -- WHY DID I THINK IT WAS 17 MILLION?

11:11:58 NO WONDER I JUMPED OUT AT THIS.

11:12:01 OKAY.

11:12:08 WELL, I MISREAD IT.

11:12:10 I NEED TO GET NEW GLASSES.

11:12:12 I'LL PASS ON THIS ONE.

11:12:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A GREAT INSURANCE PLAN THROUGH

11:12:15 THE CITY FOR VISION.

11:12:16 [ LAUGHTER ]




11:12:16 IT WILL ONLY BE 15 OR $20 OUT OF POCKET.

11:12:21 AND I RECOMMEND IT.

11:12:25 VISION WORKS.

11:12:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU CAN HANDLE IT.

11:12:28 THANK YOU, DENNIS.

11:12:30 I'M SORRY.

11:12:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:12:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANTED TO ASK MR. ROGERO, 75,000,

11:12:40 75 MILLION MEANS THE SAME THING.

11:12:42 IT'S STILL PUBLIC FUNDS.

11:12:43 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.

11:12:47 THANK YOU.

11:12:48 MR. DINGFELDER, I BELIEVE YOU SAW THIS IN MY E-MAIL.

11:12:51 ALL OF THE FUNDING WE GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS

11:12:55 SCRUTINIZED EVENTUALLY BY OUR AUDITORS AS PART OF THE SINGLE

11:12:59 AUDIT ACT.

11:13:00 WHEN I SAY ALL, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE ARE A LOW RISK, SO THEY

11:13:06 WILL COME IN FOR REVIEW A MINIMUM OF 20% OF OUR FEDERAL

11:13:09 FUNDING.

11:13:11 NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO EVERY YEAR IS

11:13:14 SCRUTINIZE OUR INTERNAL CONTROLS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT

11:13:17 WE ARE SPENDING THE MONEY IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT THE

11:13:20 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TOLD US TO SPEND IT ON.

11:13:22 AND THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE SINGLE AUDIT ACT.

11:13:26 COMES OUT OF THE FEDERAL OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,




11:13:29 AND THERE'S A SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON LARGE AND NEW AMOUNTS.

11:13:34 A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE SHARES FUNDING THAT WE JUST

11:13:37 RECEIVED, RECENTLY RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

11:13:42 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS WAS AN ADDENDUM TO THE AGREEMENT WE

11:14:01 HAD WITH CATHOLIC CHARITY, THAT MONEY WAS PREVIOUSLY

11:14:06 DISTRIBUTED TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT WAS NOT ON TARGET

11:14:09 TO SPEND IT, AND IN LIEU OF HAVING TO RETURN THE MONEY, TO

11:14:14 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE ARE AMENDING A CURRENTS AGREEMENT

11:14:17 GIVING CATHOLIC CHARITIES ON TARGET WITH THOSE FUNDS.

11:14:21 THESE FUNDS ARE TO HELP HOMELESS AND THOSE AT RISK OF

11:14:26 BECOMING HOMELESS, AND WE DO MONTHLY AUDITS AS WELL AS

11:14:32 ON-SITE VISITS AS PART OF OUR OWN MONITORING OF THE FUNDING.

11:14:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:14:44 AND I AM APOLOGIZE AGAIN.

11:14:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND MS. FEELEY, HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY.

11:14:49 I KNOW IT WAS YESTERDAY.

11:14:51 BUT WE WISH YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

11:14:53 AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

11:14:55 AND MR. ROGERO, I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE YOU TODAY VIRTUALLY

11:14:58 BUT I AM WEARING BATMAN SOCKS.

11:15:01 I KNOW YOU ARE A BIG FAN.

11:15:03 WITH THAT LOGO BEHIND YOU, YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

11:15:08 >> I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.

11:15:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 22?

11:15:14 MOTION BY DINGFELDER, SECOND FROM GUDES.




11:15:17 ROLL CALL VOTE.

11:15:18 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

11:15:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.

11:15:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

11:15:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

11:15:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

11:15:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

11:15:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

11:15:29 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:15:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:15:32 THAT CONCLUDES ALL MY JOKES.

11:15:34 WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 52.

11:15:36 ROB ROSNER.

11:15:37 >>ROB ROSNER: WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH A MEMO, THE REPORT

11:15:47 THAT WE HAD PROMISED FROM LAST NOVEMBER.

11:15:50 LOOKING AT THE ITEMS THAT YOU REQUESTED US TO LOOK AT FOR

11:15:54 THE UNION STATION AND THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT THAT MIGHT BE,

11:15:59 I KNOW YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT AHEAD OF TIME.

11:16:04 DID YOU WANTS TO START WITH ANY QUESTIONS?

11:16:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS WAS YOUR

11:16:08 MOTION SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.

11:16:10 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR

11:16:13 TAKING THIS PROPOSAL SERIOUSLY.

11:16:14 I KNOW COMMUNITY GROUPS ARE WORKING WITH YOU ALL ON IT AND

11:16:17 HOPEFULLY IF IT WORKS, WE NEED MORE SPACE FOR ENTREPRENEURS




11:16:23 TO BE ABLE TO MEET AND EVERYONE HAS LOOKED AT IT AND SAYS

11:16:27 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A WIN-WIN.

11:16:29 WE'LL HAVE MORE VIBRANT TRANSPORTATION HUB AND ALSO BE ABLE

11:16:33 TO SUPPORT ENTREPRENEURS.

11:16:35 AT SOME POINT, I CAN DO IT UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR NOW BUT I

11:16:37 WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THEM TO COME BACK

11:16:40 MAYBE IN OCTOBER TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON IT THEN.

11:16:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

11:16:44 I THINK YOUR MOTION IS GREAT.

11:16:46 THE IDEA IS GREAT FOR TAMPA UNION STATION WHICH IS A

11:16:50 BEAUTIFUL 100-YEAR-OLD PLUS BUILDING THAT WAS IN RUINS AT

11:16:54 ONE POINT.

11:16:55 I BELIEVE UNDER THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION THEY RESTORED IT

11:16:57 BUT IT'S AN ICONIC BUILDING, AND BEING THAT THE RAILROAD IS

11:17:01 SO IMPORTANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF TAMPA BEYOND THE CIGAR

11:17:04 INDUSTRY, WHEN YOU HAVE HENRY PLANT ALONG WITH HENRY FLAGLER

11:17:08 ON THE EAST COAST BRING THE RAILROAD DOWN HERE, SO TO MOVE

11:17:12 IN THIS DIRECTION, TO FURTHER PRESERVE AND UTILIZE UNION

11:17:15 STATION, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:17:20 YES, SIR, MR. ROSNER.

11:17:22 >>ROB ROSNER: ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, OUR

11:17:26 RECOMMENDATION WAS TO TALK A LITTLE FURTHER.

11:17:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT LATER

11:17:34 IN OCTOBER AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON INDICATED?

11:17:37 >>ROB ROSNER: CORRECT.




11:17:41 NO FURTHER ACTION UNTIL THIS FALL.

11:17:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE

11:17:45 THE MOTION NOW, OCTOBER 21st IS A REGULAR MEETING.

11:17:49 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

11:17:51 THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN TAMPA UNION

11:17:52 STATION OVER THE YEARS BUT JACKSON AND HIS FATHER HELPED

11:17:57 LEAD THE EFFORTS 20-PLUS YEARS AGO, AND HIS DAD PASSED AWAY

11:18:01 IN THE LAST YEAR AND LEFT SOME MONEY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO

11:18:03 PRIVATELY DONATE TO HELP WITH THE RESTORATION AS WELL.

11:18:07 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE A TAMPA UNION

11:18:10 STATION COFFEE SHOP AND PROPOSAL UPDATE ON OCTOBER 21st

11:18:16 DURING STAFF REPORTS.

11:18:18 >> SECOND.

11:18:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES -- I'M

11:18:21 SORRY.

11:18:21 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:18:23 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:18:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:18:26 ANY OPPOSED?

11:18:27 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

11:18:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.

11:18:31 I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT AFTER WE VOTE, THAT'S

11:18:34 ALL.

11:18:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.

11:18:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH HOPES THAT BRIGHT LINE WILL BE COMING




11:18:39 TO THIS CITY, THIS WILL BE AN ATTRACTIVE, ATTRACTIVE

11:18:45 LOCATION.

11:18:46 SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

11:18:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, YOU GOT IT.

11:18:52 THANK YOU, MR. ROSNER.

11:18:54 NEXT UP, FDOT, BUT I DIDN'T EXPECT TO MOVE SO QUICKLY WITH

11:18:58 THIS AGENDA.

11:18:59 I HAD THEM SCHEDULED TO COME BACK AFTER LUNCH AT 1:30 TIME

11:19:02 CERTAIN.

11:19:03 I KNOW WE HAVE THE SECRETARY MOST LIKELY AND OTHER TEAM

11:19:06 MEMBERS.

11:19:06 SO WE WILL WAIT FOR FDOT UNTIL 1:30.

11:19:11 THE DISCUSSION ON ITEM 58 I'M SURE WILL BE LENGTHY.

11:19:15 THAT WILL COME AFTER FDOT.

11:19:17 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 54 PROPOSED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:19:22 IF WE HAVE OCEA WYNN ON THE LINE REGARDING THE REPORT FOR

11:19:30 PART OF CHANNELSIDE TO BE NAMED AFTER COUNCILMEMBER LINDA

11:19:34 SAUL-SENA.

11:19:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST PREFACE THIS, BECAUSE IT

11:19:41 ACTUALLY APPEARS HER MEMO REFERENCES THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT,

11:19:45 BUT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL HAS BEEN ASKING ABOUT NAMING THIS,

11:19:50 NAMING THAT.

11:19:51 I THINK VIRTUALLY EVERY COUNCILMEMBER HAS PROPOSED SOME SORT

11:19:54 OF NAMING, AND WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT, AND I THINK IT'S

11:19:58 GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND WE KEEP GETTING THE SAME MEMO,




11:20:02 LIKE, YOU KNOW, OH, THEY ARE WORKING ON A POLICY.

11:20:06 SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME FINALITY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW,

11:20:12 WHEN WE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS POLICY, IF WE ARE GOING TO SEE

11:20:15 THIS POLICY, AND THAT COUNCIL COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE

11:20:18 POLICY.

11:20:18 SO IT DOESN'T JUST RELATE TO HONORING MS. SAUL-SENA, WHO

11:20:23 SHOULD BE HONORED, BUT IT RELATES TO SEVERAL OF THESE

11:20:26 REQUESTS.

11:20:26 THANK YOU, MS. GRIMES.

11:20:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. GRIMES.

11:20:31 >>GINA GRIMES: GINA GRIMES, CITY ATTORNEY.

11:20:33 MR. DINGFELDER, JUST ONE MONTH AGO WE DID SEND A MEMO TO

11:20:38 COUNCIL EXPLAINING THAT THIS WAS -- A REQUEST CAME UP TO

11:20:46 RENAME SOME STREETS.

11:20:48 WE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT THE MANNER IN WHICH

11:20:51 STREETS ARE NAMED IN HONOR OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS, OR FOR

11:20:56 THAT MATTER ARTS, ANY OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES, THERE'S NOT

11:20:59 BEEN A CONSISTENT AND EQUITABLE PROCEDURE.

11:21:03 AND IT APPEARS THAT ONLY THOSE THAT ARE BROUGHT TO THE

11:21:07 ATTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL ARE THE ONES THAT ARE

11:21:10 ADDRESSED.

11:21:11 AND SO WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED WAS TO CREATE A

11:21:17 COMMITTEE AND A PROCESS WHEREBY EVERYBODY WOULD BE TREATED

11:21:23 EQUALLY, AND THEIR APPLICATION WOULD BE REVIEWED.

11:21:29 WE ALSO CONSIDERED EVEN ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO SUBMIT




11:21:32 APPLICATIONS IF THEY THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO NAME

11:21:36 EITHER A STREET OR SOME OTHER PUBLIC FACILITY AFTER AN

11:21:39 INDIVIDUAL THAT'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE COMMUNITY.

11:21:41 SO IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO DEVELOP, AND IN THAT MEMO

11:21:47 LAST MONTH, WE DID SAY THAT WE WOULD REPORT BACK TO YOU.

11:21:50 ONCE WE HAVE IT MOVED FURTHER ALONG.

11:21:54 I KNOW -- I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MS. WYNN, BUT I KNOW FOR OUR

11:21:58 DEPARTMENT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 28 MOTIONS OF CITY COUNCIL

11:22:04 THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE END OF MAY, AND I HAVE

11:22:08 ALSO, I BELIEVE, NINE REQUESTS FROM INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL

11:22:12 MEMBERS FOR ASSISTANCE IN VARIOUS MATTERS.

11:22:14 SO WHILE I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS

11:22:18 POSSIBLE, AS WOULD THE ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL

11:22:23 WORKLOAD AND WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AND WE'LL GET BACK

11:22:26 TO YOU WHENEVER WE HAVE FURTHER INFORMATION TO PROVIDE.

11:22:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, THANK YOU, MS. GRIMES, FOR THAT

11:22:31 COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE.

11:22:33 MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ITEM 54

11:22:37 FOR 60 DAYS, TWO MONTHS.

11:22:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WOULD BRING US INTO JUNE.

11:22:41 LET ME GET A DATE.

11:22:42 LET'S DO IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS JUNE 17th, REGULAR CITY

11:22:47 COUNCIL MEETING.

11:22:48 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH A SECOND FROM

11:22:50 COUNCILMAN VIERA.




11:22:52 ALL IN FAVOR?

11:22:53 AYE.

11:22:54 ALL RIGHTY.

11:22:55 NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 55.

11:22:58 IS SHERISHA HILLS ON THE LINE?

11:23:03 IF NOT WE HAVE A MEMO ON TACOMA PARK.

11:23:07 THERE SHE IS.

11:23:08 GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

11:23:09 >> SHERISHA HILLS, INTERIM DIRECTOR.

11:23:15 CURRENTLY WE HAVE SECURITY LIGHTING AT TACOMA PARK.

11:23:17 WE WILL BE DOING AN ASSESSMENT AS PART OF OUR CITY-WIDE

11:23:21 MASTER PLAN THAT WILL LOOK AT THE LIGHTING NEEDS AND

11:23:23 ASSESSMENT AT EACH PARK SO THIS WILL BE PART OF THAT PACKAGE

11:23:29 IN A MASTER PLAN NEXT YEAR.

11:23:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA?

11:23:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

11:23:34 AND THANK YOU, MS. HILLS, FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS REGARD.

11:23:38 I LOVE WORKING WITH YOU.

11:23:39 WITH REGARDS TO THIS, I'LL PROBABLY BE PUTTING THIS ON MY

11:23:47 LIST IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED FOR FISCAL YEAR

11:23:49 BUDGET.

11:23:50 I DON'T THINK IT WOULD COST THAT MUCH.

11:23:52 EVERY TIME WE GO OUT WITH MY GOOD FRIENDS FROM THE TERRACE

11:23:55 PARK, MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE EVENING, I'M NOT A

11:24:00 LIGHTING EXPERT OR ANYTHING BUT IT REALLY SEEMS TO JUST BE




11:24:03 IN NEED OF A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT, AND NEXT TIME I'M OUT

11:24:07 THERE, I'LL PROBABLY TAKE A VIDEO OR SOMETHING OF THAT

11:24:10 NATURE.

11:24:10 BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR MEMO AND YOUR RESPONSE.

11:24:14 THANK YOU.

11:24:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:24:18 ALL RIGHT.

11:24:19 THAT CONCLUDES THAT.

11:24:22 I HAVE MORE GOOD NEWS TODAY.

11:24:24 FDOT IS READY FOR THEIR PRESENTATION NOW, SHOULDN'T BE MORE

11:24:26 THAN 15 MINUTES, SO WE CAN GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

11:24:30 AND ALL WE REALLY HAVE LEFT IS THE VERY BRIEF ITEM NUMBER

11:24:35 58.

11:24:37 SO LET'S GO WITH FDOT.

11:24:39 IF YOU ARE ON.

11:24:40 I SEE YOU ARE AND YOU HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION, I

11:24:43 BELIEVE.

11:24:45 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.

11:24:46 GO AHEAD, SIR.

11:24:46 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:24:50 WE SUBMITTED THE PowerPoint PRESENTATION BEFOREHAND, SO IF

11:24:53 YOU COULD BRING THAT UP, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

11:24:56 THANK YOU.

11:24:56 BUT IN THE MEANTIME I WILL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE MYSELF.

11:24:59 I'M ACTUALLY CITY STAFF, BRANDON CAMPBELL, AND I AM THE




11:25:04 SMART MOBILITY MANAGER, SO WHERE WE FIT IN THE ORGANIZATION,

11:25:09 WE ARE ONE OF THE FIVE DIVISIONS OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT,

11:25:14 AND AMONG OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES, WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC

11:25:18 MANAGEMENT CENTER AND OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS FROM DESIGN AND

11:25:22 CONSTRUCTION OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

11:25:24 SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH FDOT ON THIS

11:25:29 PROJECT, AND I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE

11:25:33 HISTORY AND SORT OF THE INTENT OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN I AM

11:25:37 GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN LEE, WHO IS

11:25:40 FDOT'S PROJECT MANAGER, TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE MORE FINE

11:25:44 GRAIN DETAILS, AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU

11:25:47 MIGHT HAVE AFTERWARDS.

11:25:48 SO THE PROJECT IS THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

11:25:56 JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ON OUR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS IN

11:26:00 THE CITY.

11:26:05 WE HAVE HAD FOR A LONG TIME A CENTRALIZED TRAFFIC CONTROL

11:26:08 SYSTEM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT, OF YOUR SCREEN,

11:26:13 THIS IS SORT OF THE LEGACY SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE.

11:26:17 WE ARE STILL HANGING ON WITH CONNECTION TO A FEW OF OUR

11:26:20 REMAINING SIGNALS, WHAT YOU SEE DOWNTOWN, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY

11:26:24 TWO OF THE NEWER SYSTEM, BUT JUST FOR A COMPARISON, IT WAS

11:26:31 CUTTING-EDGE TECHNOLOGY, I'LL SAY 25 TO 30 YEARS AGO.

11:26:35 THAT WAS BASED ON A TWISTED PAIR OF COPPER COMMUNICATIONS

11:26:41 SYSTEM.

11:26:41 IF YOU THINK BACK TO YOUR HOME BASED INTERNET EVOLUTION,




11:26:45 MORE OR LESS IT'S LIKE HAVING A DIAL-UP MOD UM.

11:26:48 IT'S LIKE PRESENTING DATA BACK AND FORTH TO SIGNALS, BUT IT

11:26:52 WAS NOT COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH FOR US TO ADDRESS MODERN

11:26:56 TRAFFIC CONTROL NEEDS.

11:26:58 AND, IN FACT, BEFORE WE STARTED IMPLEMENTING THE MODERN

11:27:04 SYSTEM, WE HAD DAYS WHERE IN ORDER TO GET REALTIME

11:27:08 INTELLIGENCE WE HAVE TO GO OUT WITH BINOCULARS ON TOP OF THE

11:27:12 FOOTBALL STADIUM AND THE LIKE AND BEING ON THE PHONE BACK

11:27:15 WITH OUR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER.

11:27:18 SO WHAT WE STARTED TO DO SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS TO MOVE TO A

11:27:25 NEW GENERATION OF ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

11:27:28 IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN, THAT BOTTOM HALF

11:27:31 IS WHAT HAS BEGUN TO BE IMPLEMENTED ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, AND

11:27:36 WHAT THEN WAS INTENDED TO BE THE FIRST PHASE OF A FOUR-PHASE

11:27:41 PROJECT TO DEPLOY ACROSS THE CITY.

11:27:44 THAT COVERED THE STADIUM, AIRPORT, WESTSHORE AREA, AND GAVE

11:27:48 US THE NEXT GENERATION OF THE CURRENT GENERATION OF TRAFFIC

11:27:53 CONTROL.

11:27:54 SINCE THAT TIME, THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY, THE THREE PHASES

11:27:58 THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATE PROJECTS, WERE COMBINED INTO ONE

11:28:01 LARGE DESIGN BUILD PROJECT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE

11:28:04 TODAY TO TALK ABOUT.

11:28:05 SO WITH THAT, OLD GENERATION, THE CURRENT GENERATION, AND

11:28:12 THEN ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS PROJECT IS MEANT TO

11:28:16 BRING THE NEXT GENERATION OF TRAFFIC CONTROL AND ACTIVE




11:28:22 TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT TO OUR CITY.

11:28:25 THE SYSTEM IS CALLED WAYFARER, SOMETHING WE HAVE DONE SOME

11:28:31 PILOTING WITH AND WE ARE GETTING WITH THIS PROJECT ON A

11:28:34 FULL-SCALE BASIS THAT GIVES US ACCESS TO SOME REALTIME

11:28:39 INTELLIGENCE, EARLY INCIDENT DETECTION AND LIVE.

11:28:43 REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THAT'S BRINGING TO THE CITY.

11:28:46 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

11:28:50 >> SO WE WANT TO USE WHAT WE ARE DOING TO IMPLEMENT STATE OF

11:28:54 THE PRACTICE TECHNOLOGY.

11:28:56 SO I MENTIONED THE OLD DAYS OF OBSERVING TRAFFIC THROUGH

11:29:01 BINOCULARS.

11:29:02 WE HAVE DEPLOYED ON THE ORDER OF 75 TO 100 CAMERAS ALREADY

11:29:06 WITHIN OUR HIGH SPEED COMMUNICATION NETWORK THAT HAS BEEN

11:29:09 DEPLOYED AND IS GROWING.

11:29:12 WE ARE EXPANDING THE REACH OF THAT.

11:29:14 WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL CAMERAS FOR MONITORING AND

11:29:18 RESPONDING TO REALTIME NEEDS OF TRAFFIC.

11:29:22 SO BASICALLY MORE OR LESS DOUBLING OUR CAMERA COVERAGE.

11:29:26 BUT WE ALSO BUILD FOR THE FUTURE.

11:29:29 THIS PROJECT IS -- I WON'T SAY PRIMARILY, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY

11:29:34 IT'S ABOUT EXTENDING THE HIGH SPEED COMMUNICATION NETWORK

11:29:37 THROUGH THE DEPLOYMENT OF FIBER AND HIGH SPEED RADIO

11:29:42 TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE FOR BOTH THE TRAFFIC CONTROL

11:29:46 THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING AND HAVE BEEN GROWING IN THE LAST

11:29:51 DECADE OR SO, BUT ALSO CAN LEVERAGE FOR ADDITIONAL




11:29:55 TECHNOLOGIES AS THEY COME ONLINE.

11:29:59 I KNOW THAT YOU ALL MENTIONED EARLIER THE NEW PARKING

11:30:03 SYSTEMS THAT WE STARTED TO DEPLOY WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT.

11:30:06 EVEN THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE GOING TO BE BETTER ENABLED BY

11:30:09 HAVING BETTER COMMUNICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

11:30:12 SO WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

11:30:14 SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO

11:30:17 KEVIN LEE, WHO IS THE FDOT PROJECT MANAGER, TO G GET US INTO

11:30:21 SOME OF THE FINER DETAILS OF THE PROJECT.

11:30:23 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:30:29 IF YOU COULD GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.

11:30:34 ONCE AGAIN, THE PROJECT ITSELF IS A DESIGN BUILD PROJECT.

11:30:41 ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO, ALL THE WAY TO SEPTEMBER 2023.

11:30:45 THE OVERALL COSTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS $38 MILLION.

11:30:49 ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO BRANDON AND VIK.

11:30:53 THIS WAS WRITTEN FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA RFP FROM BEGINNING TO

11:30:57 END.

11:30:58 ONCE AGAIN, IT'S FOR THE FUTURE.

11:31:00 I THINK ELABORATING WHAT WE NEED, A TAMPA RESIDENT WOULD BE

11:31:10 GLAD TO SEE THAT GOING AND ON TRACK.

11:31:15 IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

11:31:16 SOME OF THESE BENEFITS ARE OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN ANYTHING

11:31:20 ELSE, WE WANT TO REDUCE CONGESTION AND IMPROVE SAFETY.

11:31:24 THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR MISSION AND GOAL AT FDOT, SAFETY

11:31:31 IMPROVEMENT, NO ACCIDENT, NO PEDESTRIAN INCIDENTS, NOTHING




11:31:34 WHATSOEVER.

11:31:35 I WE ARE GETTING TO THAT POINT.

11:31:40 MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, WE COULD REDUCE THE TRAVEL TIME

11:31:44 INCLUDING THE TRAVEL CHOICES EXPANDED WITH THIS, AND NOT

11:31:47 ONLY THAT, WE WILL GIVE IMPROVEMENT TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

11:31:50 SO BASICALLY, IF SOMETHING WERE TO -- WITH THE OUTDATED

11:31:58 COPPER WIRES, WITH FIBER-OPTIC CABLES, THEY GET TO SEE

11:32:01 LIVESTREAM, LIVE THINGS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THOSE

11:32:04 INTERSECTIONS AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

11:32:07 GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

11:32:12 THIS GETS INTO NUMBERS.

11:32:14 A LITTLE BORING BUT LET ME GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE.

11:32:18 BASICALLY WE ARE GOING DO INSTALL 450,000, AND UPGRADE FROM

11:32:28 COPPER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.

11:32:31 ALSO TO INCLUDE 63 INTERSECTIONS WITH CCTV CAMERAS, AND THE

11:32:41 RIGHT SCREEN ON YOUR BOTTOM, COUNTY GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL

11:32:45 VEHICLE SPEED, AS WE SEE IT, AND ALSO ACCIDENT ARRIVAL TIME.

11:32:50 SO WE WILL HAVE 44 INTERSECTIONS.

11:32:52 ALSO, WE WORK WITH CITY OF TAMPA DEPARTMENT TO INCREASE

11:32:59 ROADWAY FLOOD SENSORS ON 15 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

11:33:03 NEXT SLIDE.

11:33:07 I THINK BRANDON KIND OF ALLUDED AT THE BEGINNING, THIS WILL

11:33:12 GIVE YOU THE REALTIME TRAFFIC THROUGH THE CENTER.

11:33:17 BUT NOT ONLY THIS, I THINK WE WILL WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES

11:33:20 AS WELL COMPARED TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND IN THE RANGE




11:33:27 WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND NOT ONLY THAT, INTERCONNECT

11:33:32 WITH THE PARKS SYSTEM AS WELL.

11:33:33 SO WE WILL HAVE ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES KIND OF INTERCONNECT

11:33:37 WITH CITY OF TAMPA WITH THIS NEW SOFTWARE AND SYSTEM, AND WE

11:33:42 WILL HAVE 355 NEW SIGNAL CONTROLLERS INCLUDING 60 UPS.

11:33:47 SO WHAT THE UPS UNINTERRUPTED POWER SUPPLY, LET'S SAY A

11:33:52 HURRICANE COMES AND POWER GOES OUT, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER 12

11:33:56 TO 24 HOURS SUSTAINED POWER SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS THE SIGNALS

11:34:00 WITHOUT LOSING ANY UNINTERRUPTED POWER WHATSOEVER.

11:34:04 SO EVEN IF THE HURRICANE COMES, THE SIGNAL WILL STILL GO AS

11:34:08 WE MOVE FORWARD.

11:34:10 AND THEN INCLUDING REPLACE SOME OF THESE OUTDATED SERVERS

11:34:14 AND THE WORK STATIONS AND SWITCHES AND FIREWALL AND ROUTERS.

11:34:20 NEXT SLIDE.

11:34:23 ONGOING CONSTRUCTION PICTURES, I WILL SHOW YOU, THROUGHOUT

11:34:31 THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT A FEW MORE SLIDES TO KIND OF GIVE

11:34:34 YOU.

11:34:35 GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

11:34:37 SO WHAT WE ARE DOING, GOING UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALKS.

11:34:42 ONCE AGAIN, RIGHT-OF-WAY, NOT GOING OUTSIDE OF THE

11:34:46 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

11:34:50 GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.

11:35:00 AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IT.

11:35:03 ONCE AGAIN I WANT TO THANK BRANDON AND VIK AND THE COUNCIL

11:35:06 FOR LETTING US PRESENT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CITY OF TAMPA




11:35:08 PROJECTS, BUT THIS WILL WRITTEN SO WE CAN HELP THE CITY TO

11:35:13 BENEFIT THE FUTURE FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 25 YEARS.

11:35:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:35:17 I KNOW THIS MAY NOT BE THE PROPER FORUM, BUT THROUGHOUT THIS

11:35:22 CITY WITH THE INTERSTATE, WHICH GOES THROUGH MUCH OF MY

11:35:25 DISTRICT AT DALE MABRY, AT ARMENIA, TO GET ON THE ON AND OFF

11:35:32 RAMP OF 275, AND THERE MIGHT BE OTHER AREAS, BUT THE STREETS

11:35:38 THAT ARE CITY STREETS, FOR EXAMPLE, MAIN STREET, WE HAVE OUR

11:35:41 SIGNALS, THEY DO NOT FALL IN LINE WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS

11:35:47 AT THE INTERSTATE.

11:35:48 SO YOU WILL SEE, YOU ARE SITTING THERE FIVE, TEN MINUTES AT

11:35:51 MAIN STREET AND ARMENIA AT A RED LIGHT WHILE THE INTERSTATE,

11:35:57 YOU KNOW, THE INTERSTATE LIGHTS ARE GREEN, THE LIGHT TURNS

11:36:02 GREEN ON MAIN STREET AND GOES RIGHT INTO RED LIGHT.

11:36:04 I MEAN, IT CREATES AN ON INSTRUCTION THERE, EVEN DALE MABRY,

11:36:08 WHICH IS MUCH HEAVIER.

11:36:09 IT'S EASIER TO TAKE A LOT OF SIDE STREETS, NOW DUMPING

11:36:13 TRAFFIC TO LOIS AND HIMES AND MacDILL, BECAUSE DALE MABRY

11:36:19 HAS THE SPRUCE LIGHT.

11:36:21 THE COLUMBUS LIGHT.

11:36:23 SMALLER LIGHTS IN BETWEEN.

11:36:24 THE LIGHTS THAT GET INTO THE HOME DEPOT, SUPER TARGET.

11:36:27 IT'S NOT COORDINATED.

11:36:29 IT'S NOT SYNCHRONIZED AND JUST CREATES GRIDLOCK FOR NO

11:36:34 REASON.




11:36:34 WE TALK ABOUT THE ADVANCED MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

11:36:37 I SEE HERE IN TAMPA -- I'M SORRY, IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AS WE

11:36:40 LEAVE CITY HALL, THE LIGHTS ARE SYNCHRONIZED GOING NORTH ON

11:36:43 FLORIDA AND SOUTH ON TAMPA STREET.

11:36:45 AND IT HAS A SIGN THAT SAYS 30 MILES PER HOUR.

11:36:48 AS LONG AS YOU ARE GOING 30, YOU ARE GOING TO HIT THE GREEN

11:36:51 AS YOU KEEP GOING UP BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OTHER CITIES,

11:36:54 AND IT'S CAUSING MORE TRAFFIC BACKUP FOR REALLY NO REASON.

11:36:57 I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, BUT SIGNALIZATION AND

11:37:00 TIMING IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT.

11:37:03 SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE IN YOUR OFFICE

11:37:08 ABOUT THIS, BUT SINCE YOU ARE HERE, I WAS AT A COFFEE SHOP

11:37:12 THIS MORNING AND A GENTLEMAN AND HIS WIFE THAT I KNEW SAID,

11:37:14 HEY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THESE AT DALE MABRY?

11:37:17 AND I SAID, YEAH, I WAS STUCK A AT THOSE LIGHTS TEN MINUTES

11:37:24 AGO, TOO.

11:37:24 I'LL STOP THERE.

11:37:25 COUNCILMAN GUDES, SIR.

11:37:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MINE DOESN'T RELATE TO TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

11:37:30 THE MORE IT TAKES UNDERNEATH THE UNDERPASSES, ESPECIALLY

11:37:35 BETWEEN FLORIBRASKA AND TALIAFERRO.

11:37:40 WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FOLKS LIVING UNDERNEATH THE

11:37:43 INTERSTATE.

11:37:44 I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS THE HOMELESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,

11:37:47 BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HAVE CALLED,




11:37:50 BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS ARE DEFECATING, USING THE BATHROOM,

11:37:54 UNDERNEATH THOSE, AND EXPOSING THEMSELVES AT THE LIGHTS

11:37:58 WHILE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THEIR DESTINATION.

11:38:02 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PROCESS.

11:38:04 I HAVE ASKED FOR CLEANING UP.

11:38:05 THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB, BUT IT CREATES A FORM OF BLIGHT

11:38:13 AND I WANT TO SEE IF WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR PUTTING FENCES

11:38:16 UP IN THAT AREA OR SOMETHING TO KEEP THE AREA CLEAN, BECAUSE

11:38:20 IT'S BECOMING REALLY A HAZARD.

11:38:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

11:38:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP TO MR. GUDES'

11:38:29 STATEMENT, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT UNDERNEATH THE

11:38:33 INTERSTATE, MR. LEE OR MR. CAMPBELL?

11:38:37 >> I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT'S KIND OF A COMPLEX ISSUE

11:38:49 INVOLVING BOTH LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND I SUPPOSE THAT'S NOT ON

11:38:54 THE CLEAN-UP -- BUT I'LL LET SECRETARY GWYNN, I'LL LET YOU

11:38:58 BOTH RESPOND.

11:39:02 >> SECRETARY DAVID GWYNN: GOOD MORNING.

11:39:04 SO, YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY SO WE ARE

11:39:08 RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT IT KEEPS CLEAN, AND WE WORK

11:39:11 WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS THE LOCAL AGENCIES TO

11:39:16 DETERMINE HOW BEST TO APPROACH THE HOMELESS ISSUE, BECAUSE

11:39:21 CERTAINLY WE ARE NOT THE AGENCY THAT WOULD GO OUT AND

11:39:23 ENFORCE ANY RESTRICTIONS.

11:39:26 WE RELY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO THAT, BUT WE ALSO AT TIMES




11:39:30 PUT UP SIGNS SO THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO ENFORCE, WHETHER IT

11:39:33 BE NO LOITERING, NO TRESPASSING.

11:39:36 SOMETIMES WE DO PUT FENCING UP.

11:39:40 THE TRUTH IS, EVEN IN THE PLACES WE HAVE FENCING, A LOT OF

11:39:44 THESE FOLKS FIND WAYS TO GET IN THERE, AND IN FACT SOME I

11:39:47 THINK LIKE FENCES BETTER THAN THEY DO WITH NO FENCE.

11:39:51 AND SO THAT DOESN'T COMPLETELY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

11:39:53 BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT.

11:39:56 THERE'S A GOOD APPLICATION AT THOSE LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT

11:39:59 HELP TO KEEP IT CLEANER AND MAYBE KEEP SOME OF THE HOMELESS

11:40:04 PEOPLE FROM CAMPING OUT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE CAUSING A

11:40:08 SAFETY PROBLEM.

11:40:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR POPPING IN

11:40:11 THERE.

11:40:11 AGAIN IT'S NOT TO PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL, OR HARASS THE HOMELESS

11:40:15 BUT IT'S BECOME MORE OF A BIGGER PROBLEM AGAIN WITH

11:40:19 URINATION, DEFECATION, PEOPLE EXPOSING THEMSELVES, AND

11:40:23 ABUNDANCE OF TRASH UNDER THE INTERSTATE AT THE ROAD SLIDE,

11:40:28 SLIDING DOWN ON A SLOPE THERE, JUST MY CONCERN, PEOPLE IN MY

11:40:33 DISTRICT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, THE RESIDENTS RIGHT

11:40:35 THERE, AND THAT'S A REAL BUSY SPOT.

11:40:39 I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE INTERSECTION OPEN AT

11:40:42 FLORIBRASKA BUT THAT'S A BUSY STOP, PEOPLE TRAVELING, PEOPLE

11:40:45 GOING TO SCHOOL THERE WALKING, AND SEE HOW WE CAN GET SOME

11:40:49 TYPE OF SYSTEM GOING TO MAKE SOME REAL IMPROVEMENTS.




11:40:52 I THANK YOU FOR CHIME IN, SIR.

11:40:55 >> WE'LL COORDINATE WITH THE CITY IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO

11:40:57 MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT THERE.

11:40:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MR. LEE, MR.

11:41:02 CAMPBELL.

11:41:02 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EXCELLENT REPORT.

11:41:04 WHILE SECRETARY GWYNN IS HERE, MY OFFICE RECEIVED A

11:41:09 MULTITUDE OF PHONE CALLS FROM COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS ABOUT

11:41:13 TRASH, JUNK AND DEBRIS AROUND THE EDGES AND ENTRANCES OF 275

11:41:17 AND I-4.

11:41:19 THEY ALSO CALL MY OFFICE FOR THINGS SUCH AS FIVE GALLON

11:41:25 BUCKETS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSTATE, BEDS, MATTRESSES,

11:41:29 EVERYTHING FALLING OFF TRUCKS.

11:41:31 SECRETARY GWYNN, I KNOW THAT WE CONTRACT, FDOT CONTRACTS FOR

11:41:37 CLEAN-UP OF OUR ENTRANCES AND EXITS OFF THE INTERSTATE

11:41:42 SYSTEM ALONG WITH OUR INTERSTATE SYSTEM.

11:41:43 IS THERE ONE CENTRALIZED NUMBER THAT RESIDENTS CAN CALL TO

11:41:48 SAY, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS CLEANED UP, OR, HEY,

11:41:52 THERE IS A MATTRESS ON THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM, OR IS THERE

11:41:54 ONE CENTRALIZED NUMBER THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN CALL INSTEAD

11:41:58 OF US TRYING TO HAVE TO CALL ALL THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES

11:42:01 THAT WE CONTRACT OUT TO KEEP OUR INTERSTATE SYSTEM CLEAN?

11:42:05 >> ABSOLUTELY.

11:42:09 AND I WILL MAKE SURE I GET YOU THE NUMBER THAT WOULD BE THE

11:42:11 MOST APPROPRIATE.




11:42:12 THE THING WE WANT TO TRY TO DO IS GET A RESPONSE OUT THERE

11:42:16 AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE A MATTRESS

11:42:19 OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A SAFETY HAZARD OUT ON THE ROAD.

11:42:23 WE DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR.

11:42:26 WE ACTUALLY GOT A NEW CONTRACTOR, I GUESS IT WAS LATE LAST

11:42:33 YEAR, AND WE REVISED THE CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO PUT HIGHER

11:42:38 STANDARDS ON THEM THAN WE NORMALLY DO.

11:42:40 BY STATUTE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE.

11:42:44 BUT IN TALKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, WE

11:42:48 UNDERSTOOD THAT SOME AREAS WERE NOT BEING MAINTAINED TO THE

11:42:52 LEVEL THAT CITY WANTED SO WE INCREASED THOSE STANDARDS.

11:42:57 IT DOES GET A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, AND LAST YEAR WE WENT

11:43:02 THROUGH AN EXERCISE WITH THE CITY.

11:43:03 THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE ACTUALLY UNDER CITY

11:43:07 AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO MAINTAIN.

11:43:09 WE HAVE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS WITH LOCAL AGENCIES, AND

11:43:12 THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS, AND THE THING WE WANTED TO MAKE

11:43:15 SURE WAS EVERYBODY KNEW, OKAY, THIS WAS THE CITY'S

11:43:17 RESPONSIBILITY, THIS IS A DO T. RESPONSIBILITY SO IT WASN'T

11:43:21 AN AREA THAT SOMEBODY THOUGHT THEY WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR,

11:43:24 THAT THEY REALLY WERE.

11:43:25 AND I THINK WE GOT ALL THAT WORKED OUT PRETTY GOOD WITH THE

11:43:28 CITY MAINTENANCE TEAM.

11:43:29 BUT WE'LL REVISIT THAT, AND COUNCILMAN, IF THERE ARE

11:43:33 PARTICULAR AREAS YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT ARE EXCEPTIONALLY




11:43:37 POOR IN TERMS OF THE TRASH COLLECTION, IF YOU LET US KNOW,

11:43:42 I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE

11:43:45 FOR THAT KEEPS AN EYE ON IT.

11:43:49 I KNOW DURING THE SUPER BOWL WE ACTUALLY PUT A LOT MORE

11:43:52 RESOURCES OUT THERE TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, GET IT ESPECIALLY

11:43:57 LOOKING EVEN BETTER.

11:43:58 BUT IF THERE'S ANY THAT WE ARE MISSING WE WILL BE GLAD TO GO

11:44:02 OUT AND LOOK AT THEM.

11:44:03 BUT WE'LL GET YOU A NUMBER THAT YOU GUYS CAN POST OUT FOR

11:44:06 FOLKS TO CALL.

11:44:07 I JUST DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

11:44:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECRETARY GWYNN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:44:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:44:16 MY QUESTION GOING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION BY MR. LEE AND

11:44:18 MR. CAMPBELL, TECHNOLOGY IS A WONDERFUL THING, AND I MEAN

11:44:26 THAT SINCERELY.

11:44:28 IT IMPROVES OUR LIVES IN GREAT WAYS.

11:44:30 BUT THE TRADE-OFF FOR TECHNOLOGY IS ALSO A LOSS OF OUR

11:44:35 PRIVACY AND IN MANY WAYS OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES.

11:44:39 YOU KNOW, THE BOOK "1984" I THINK WAS PROBABLY BACK IN THE

11:44:45 SIXTIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT PREDICTED THE FUTURE,

11:44:49 AND, YOU KNOW, WITH CONCERNS ABOUT BIG BROTHER.

11:44:53 AND I STILL HAVE THOSE CONCERNS ON A DAILY BASIS.

11:44:58 SO MY QUESTION AS RELATED TO THESE CAMERAS IS, HOW TIGHT DO

11:45:04 THESE CAMERAS, YOU KNOW, FOCUS IN?




11:45:07 ARE THEY FOCUSING IN ON LICENSE TAGS AND FACES? DO THEY

11:45:10 HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF FOCUSING IN ON LICENSE TAGS AND

11:45:15 FACES? WHAT TYPES OF CONTROLS DO WE HAVE ON THOSE CAMERAS,

11:45:18 SO PEOPLE CAN'T BREAK INTO THEM AND USE THEM IMPROPERLY?

11:45:24 FINALLY, IN REGARD TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, DOES LAW ENFORCEMENT

11:45:29 HAVE TO OBTAIN SEARCH WARRANTS IN ORDER TO USE THESE

11:45:32 CAMERAS?

11:45:32 AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES -- I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S

11:45:40 SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS WE WOULD WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO

11:45:43 THAT, BUT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS MAYBE WE WOULD BE A LITTLE

11:45:47 MORE HESITANT.

11:45:47 SO THAT'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

11:45:50 YOU GUYS CAN DEAL WITH IT AS YOU WISH.

11:45:52 >>VIK BHIDE: IF I MAY, BRANDON.

11:46:01 VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.

11:46:03 SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS OVER SIX YEARS, AND WE ARE

11:46:10 VERY COGNIZANT, EYES AND EARS ON THE GROUND TO GIVE US

11:46:16 INFORMATION, AND PRIVACY CONCERNS.

11:46:20 PRIVACY CONCERNS BY THE COMMUNITY.

11:46:22 SO THE FIRST THING ABOUT THESE CAMERAS IS WE DO NOT ...

11:46:28 WE ONLY USE THESE CAMERAS IN LIVESTREAM FOR OBSERVATION.

11:46:34 THE OTHER THING THAT THESE NEW CAMERAS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY

11:46:37 TO DO IS COUNT VEHICLES, NOT READ LICENSE PLATES BUT COUNT

11:46:43 VEHICLES, WHICH WE NEED, AND WE KEEP OUR COUNTS ON AN

11:46:49 ONGOING BASIS TO BUY EQUIPMENT.




11:46:51 SO THESE CAMERAS WILL SERVE MULTIPLE PURPOSES, WHICH IS TO

11:46:54 KNOW HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THERE IS AND THEN THE THIRD THING

11:46:58 THESE CAMERAS WILL BE USED FOR ARE THINGS LIKE EMERGENCY

11:47:02 MANAGEMENT.

11:47:04 BUT THEY DO NOT READ LICENSE PLATES.

11:47:08 THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE FACES.

11:47:10 AND WE DO NOT RECORD THE VIDEO.

11:47:12 WE DO INTEGRATE OUR VIDEO TO A COMMON SYSTEM WITH MULTIPLE

11:47:19 DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING TPD, BUT THAT IS MORE FOR INTERNAL

11:47:23 EFFICIENCY THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

11:47:25 AS FAR AS THE VEHICLE SENSORS, THOSE ARE JUST RADIO WAVES,

11:47:33 SO THEY ARE VERY NONINTRUSIVE AS WELL, TO THE EXTENT PRIVACY

11:47:37 GOES.

11:47:38 AND THEN FINALLY, ON PRIVACY, ONE SECTOR OF CONCERN IS

11:47:45 PEOPLE'S PRIVACY THROUGH A SYSTEM THAT WE PUT OUT THERE.

11:47:48 THE OTHER IS PEOPLE THAT MAYBE MISUSING THE SYSTEM THROUGH

11:47:55 HACKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR THAT WE HAVE GONE OUT OF OUR

11:47:59 WAY AND RECEIVED SOME NATIONAL RECOGNITION AS WELL TO ENSURE

11:48:03 CYBER SECURITY, OPERATING EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS THE

11:48:09 CONTROLLERS AND THE STREET, SO WE HAVE A DEVICE THERE THAT

11:48:12 LISTENS FOR SOME SORT OF INCLUSION, AND IF THAT INCLUSION IS

11:48:16 OUT OF THE ORDINARY, IT WILL DO ANYTHING FROM QUARANTINE TO

11:48:20 SEVER THAT CONNECTION, DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF THREAT.

11:48:25 SO THERE IS A LOT OF PRECAUTION IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE

11:48:30 CONCERNS AND HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY PROBLEM.




11:48:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.

11:48:34 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:48:35 I AM MOST PLEASED, I GUESS, TO HEAR THIS IS NOT A

11:48:38 TAPE-RECORDED DEVICE SO THAT PROBABLY ALLEVIATES MOST OF MY

11:48:44 CONCERNS, AND I APPRECIATE VIK, YOU AND YOUR TEAM, AND THE

11:48:47 DEPARTMENT ARE COGNIZANT OF THESE PRIVACY ISSUES.

11:48:51 MR. SECRETARY, ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL AND THE CITY, WE

11:48:55 APPRECIATE THIS BIG PROGRAM TO HELP TRAFFIC MOVE BETTER

11:48:59 THROUGH THE CITY, SO THANK YOU.

11:49:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.

11:49:03 COUNCILMAN GUDES.

11:49:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SECRETARY, AGAIN, THANK YOU.

11:49:08 I DON'T KNOW WHAT REALM TO FOLLOW UP BETWEEN US AND THE CITY

11:49:12 FOR COLLABORATION BUT ALSO NOTE IT IS VERY DARK UNDER THE

11:49:15 FLORIBRASKA INTERSECTION THERE SO MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL

11:49:18 LIGHTING, MAYBE WE CAN FIND A WAY TO SEE -- WE DON'T WANT TO

11:49:29 HARASS THE HOMELESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUB WE WANT TO

11:49:31 ALSO MACH SURE WE HAVE THE AREA CLEAN AND SAFE, AND AGAIN

11:49:35 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ARE JUST NOT

11:49:37 GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

11:49:38 >> IN FACT I JUST SAW THE OTHER DAY WHERE WE HAVE SOME PLANS

11:49:42 TO DO MORE UNDERDECK LIGHTING IN SOME OF THE AREAS SO WE ARE

11:49:45 GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WORKING WITH THE POWER COMPANY.

11:49:48 I WILL TELL YOU UNFORTUNATELY WHAT WE FOUND SOME OF THE

11:49:50 AREAS WHERE A LOT OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION, THEY WILL




11:49:52 ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND TRY TO BREAK THE LIGHT BECAUSE AT

11:49:56 NIGHT THEY MAY NOT NECESSARILY WANTS THEM ON.

11:49:59 THERE'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE INVOLVED IN IT BUT WE TRY TO

11:50:01 PROTECT THEM AND FIND WAYS TO KEEP IT.

11:50:03 BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

11:50:04 WE DID A LOT OVER TOWARDS THE WEST TAMPA AREA LAST YEAR.

11:50:08 WE MOVED INTO SOME OF THE LONGER BRIDGES.

11:50:10 BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THEM.

11:50:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.

11:50:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

11:50:16 YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.

11:50:21 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

11:50:26 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

11:50:35 JUST CLICK -- DID YOU CLICK ON THE MICROPHONE?

11:50:39 OH, THERE YOU GO.

11:50:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOW.

11:50:42 I WAS UNMUTED BY A SOURCE OTHER THAN MYSELF.

11:50:45 LET ME SAY THIS, THAT I APPRECIATE WORKING THE CONTROLS.

11:50:51 WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE PAST

11:50:54 AND YOU CAN USE NATURE'S BEST ENERGY SOURCE ON SOLAR.

11:51:01 LIGHTS, PUT THEM UP HIGH ENOUGH, PROTECTED ENOUGH SO THE

11:51:04 LIGHT SHOWS DOWN A MUCH STRONGER BEAM, MUCH BRIGHTER.

11:51:07 THE LED LIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SPOT

11:51:10 SOMETHING FIFTY YARDS AWAY.

11:51:13 AND I AM NOT SAYING LIGHT IT UP LIKE PATROLLING SOMETHING.




11:51:16 BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS AND SAVE YOUR MONEY,

11:51:22 SOLAR, YOU CAN PUT IT IN YOUR OWN HOUSE, YOU CAN PROTECT

11:51:25 YOUR OWN HOUSE, IT LIGHTS UP AND IN 15, 20 SECONDS IT GOES

11:51:29 BACK DOWN.

11:51:30 YOU CAN DO ALL THIS YOURSELF.

11:51:32 I AM NOT TALKING TO YOU PERSONALLY.

11:51:33 I AM TALKING TO ANYONE.

11:51:34 SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROTECTIONISM YOU CAN DO WITHOUT

11:51:38 VIOLATING ANYONE'S RIGHTS.

11:51:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:51:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, FDOT.

11:51:43 THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY.

11:51:44 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE PRESENTATION AND VIK BHIDE,

11:51:47 THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

11:51:49 ALL RIGHT.

11:51:49 THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA WESTBOUND THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM

11:51:52 NUMBER 58.

11:51:54 AND WE WILL TAKE THAT UP AFTER LUNCH.

11:51:57 WE ARE IN RECESS.

11:51:59 IT IS A LITTLE BEFORE NOON.

11:52:00 HOW ABOUT 1:30?

11:52:02 IS 1:30 ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY?

11:52:04 WE ARE IN RECESS TILL 1:30.

11:52:07 [ CITY COUNCIL RECESS ]

01:27:21




01:34:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:

01:37:16 [SOUNDING GAVEL]

01:37:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK.

01:37:20 I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER,

01:37:23 IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL.

01:37:25 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

01:37:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

01:37:28 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

01:37:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

01:37:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

01:37:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

01:37:41 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

01:37:43 >> WE WILL GO TO ITEM 58 WHICH IS OUR LAST REMAINING ITEM ON

01:37:46 THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.

01:37:47 I SEE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS ON.

01:37:50 MS. WELLS, WILL YOU BE PRESENTING ON THIS?

01:37:52 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:37:54 YES, I WILL.

01:37:55 WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE?

01:37:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.

01:37:57 GO AHEAD.

01:37:58 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.

01:38:00 FOR THE RECORD, CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

01:38:04 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BRIEFLY REACH OUT TO CITY

01:38:07 COUNCIL'S ACTION ON APRIL 1st AND HOW IT RELATE TO THE




01:38:10 ITEM BEFORE YOU.

01:38:11 TWO WEEKS AGO, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER

01:38:14 20-21-273 DECLARING ITS INTENTS TO AMEND THE CITY'S

01:38:20 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DIRECT THE STAFF TO SUBMIT THE

01:38:22 AMENDMENTS TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

01:38:24 YOU MAY RECALL THE AMENDMENT IS TO THE FUTURE LAND USE

01:38:28 ELEMENT, LAND USE CATEGORY MATRIX, AND PROPOSES TO REMOVE

01:38:31 THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE F.A.R. FOR SINGLE USE RESIDENTIAL

01:38:36 DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF DWELLINGS, MULTIFAMILY, WITHIN THE

01:38:39 URBAN MIXED USE 60, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, AND COMMUNITY

01:38:44 MIXED USE 35 LAND USE CATEGORIES.

01:38:48 THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS FILED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION

01:38:50 EARLIER THIS WEEK TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MAY AMENDMENT CYCLE

01:38:54 AND TENTATIVE HEARING DATES PROVIDED INCLUDE A PLANNING

01:38:58 COMMISSION BRIEFING AND PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MONTH OF JULY

01:39:01 AND AUGUST.

01:39:03 CITY COUNCIL TRANSMITTAL HEARING IN SEPTEMBER WHERE WE WOULD

01:39:07 TRANSMIT THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC

01:39:10 OPPORTUNITY FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT.

01:39:12 AND THEN WITH AN ANTICIPATED CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION HEARING

01:39:16 SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 27 OF 2022.

01:39:21 BY SEPARATE MOTION, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE LEGAL

01:39:24 DEPARTMENT TO PRESENT THE NECESSARY LEGAL DOCUMENTATION

01:39:27 WHICH WOULD PROHIBIT THE CITY FROM ACCEPTING REZONING

01:39:31 APPLICATIONS WHICH UTILIZE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE




01:39:35 USE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS MU 60, UMU 35 AND CC-35 FUTURE LAND

01:39:41 USE AMENDMENTS.

01:39:44 DURING A RECENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING WE DISCUSSED THE

01:39:46 POSSIBILITY OF PROCESSING THE PLAN AMENDMENT UNDER THE

01:39:48 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE.

01:39:51 FOR THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE

01:39:54 DOCTRINE, IT HOLD THAT AN APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMIT OR

01:39:57 DEVELOPMENT ORDER SUCH AS THE REZONING APPLICATION FILED ON

01:40:01 OR AFTER THE DATE WHEN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS PUBLICLY

01:40:06 DECLARED ITS INTENTS TO CHANGE ITS ZONING TO BE DENIED OR

01:40:09 HELD UNTIL AFTER THE ENACTMENT OF THE NEW ZONING ORDINANCE.

01:40:15 THE DECISION OUT OF THE FOURTH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS

01:40:17 WHICH HELD THAT THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE DID NOT APPLY

01:40:21 TO A PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE LOCAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE

01:40:25 ZONING AND PLANNING HAVE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS, AND BECAUSE

01:40:28 CHAPTER 153 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES EXPLICITLY STATES THAT

01:40:32 THE ADOPTED PLAN HAS FULL FORCE AND EFFECT UNTIL THE NEW

01:40:36 PLAN IS IN PLACE.

01:40:38 ALTHOUGH THE SECOND DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL WHERE THE CITY

01:40:40 OF TAMPA SITS HAS ADOPTED THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, IT

01:40:45 HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE SPECIFIC ISSUE OF WHETHER THE DOCTRINE

01:40:48 APPLIES TO PLAN AMENDMENTS.

01:40:51 ACCORDINGLY, IF CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO SUSPEND REZONING

01:40:55 APPLICATIONS DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME THE PLAN AMENDMENT IS

01:40:58 BEING PROCESSED, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL




01:41:01 ADOPT THE PROPOSED INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE.

01:41:05 WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS APPROACH IN AN ABUNDANCE OF

01:41:08 CAUTION, GIVEN THE DIFFERENT DECISIONS BETWEEN THE FOURTH

01:41:11 DCA AND THE SECOND DCA AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF INQUIRIES WE

01:41:17 HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT

01:41:19 COMMUNITY.

01:41:20 IF THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED, IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE JUNE

01:41:23 1st AND REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR 270 DAYS, WHICH IS THE

01:41:27 EQUIVALENT OF NINE MONTHS.

01:41:28 THIS PERIOD OF TIME INCLUDES THE ANTICIPATED ADOPTION

01:41:31 HEARING IN JANUARY OF 22 AND THE STATUTORY 31 DAYS BEFORE

01:41:37 THE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE AFTER APPROVAL BY

01:41:40 CITY COUNCIL.

01:41:41 IF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL, THE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE

01:41:44 PLACED ON FIRST READING AT YOUR NEXT MEETING ON MAY 6th,

01:41:48 AND THEN ADVERTISED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION DURING

01:41:51 THE EVENING MEETING ON MAY 27th IN ORDER TO BE APPROVED

01:41:55 AND IN EFFECT ON JUNE 1st.

01:41:57 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

01:41:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THEN COUNCILMAN

01:42:01 GUDES.

01:42:04 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

01:42:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M DIAGNOSE THAT RIGHT NOW.

01:42:10 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

01:42:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.




01:42:13 >> I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU SAID, AND I AM ASKING

01:42:15 IF YOU CAN PLEASE PRESENT THAT WITH WORDS THAT THE

01:42:21 INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF CAN UNDERSTAND.

01:42:23 I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WHEN YOU SAID FROM THE

01:42:26 DISTRICT COURT TO THAT COURT TO THIS COURT TO THE OTHER, I

01:42:29 JUST WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS.

01:42:31 YOU CAN DO SOMETHING, CAN'T DO SOMETHING, HOW CAN YOU DO IT,

01:42:34 CAN YOU STILL DO SOMETHING WHEN IT'S STILL IN EFFECT?

01:42:37 >>CATE WELLS: ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

01:42:41 THANK YOU.

01:42:42 IN THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED

01:42:45 BY CITY COUNCIL AT A FEW OF YOUR MEETINGS NOW WOULD ALLOW

01:42:50 CITY COUNCIL TO OR THE CITY TO HOLD APPLICATIONS FOR

01:42:55 REZONING WHILE THE PLAN AMENDMENT IS BEING PROCESSED, AND

01:43:00 THAT IS DOCTRINE THAT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED OR ADOPTED BY THE

01:43:03 SECOND DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS, THAT IS THE DCA ANY

01:43:09 CHALLENGES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD GO TO.

01:43:12 THERE'S ANOTHER DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS, THE FOURTH

01:43:14 DISTRICT.

01:43:15 THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE IDEA OF THAT DOCTRINE AND WHETHER OR

01:43:17 NOT IT WOULD APPLY TO THE ADOPTION OF A PLAN AMENDMENT, AND

01:43:20 IT DECIDED IN THAT INSTANCE THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COULD

01:43:25 NOT RELY ON THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE TO SUSPEND THE

01:43:31 PROCESSING OF REZONING APPLICATIONS WHILE THEIR LOCAL

01:43:34 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS BEING AMENDED.




01:43:36 AND THE COURT IN THAT CASE SUGGESTED THAT HAD THAT LOCAL

01:43:40 GOVERNMENT INTENDED TO AVOID ANY CONTROVERSY, IT COULD HAVE

01:43:44 ADOPTED A MORATORIUM.

01:43:47 IF THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE COURT RATHER THAN RELYING ON

01:43:50 THIS PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE.

01:43:52 SO IF CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO SUSPEND THE PROCESSING OF

01:43:56 APPLICATION WHILE THIS PLAN AMENDMENT IS BEING PROCESSED

01:44:01 WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY COMES BACK TO

01:44:04 CITY COUNCIL FOR A TENTATIVE ADOPTION IN JANUARY OF 2022, IT

01:44:11 IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, RATHER THAN RELYING ON THE CONCEPT OF

01:44:14 THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, THAT CITY COUNCIL INSTEAD

01:44:18 FORMALLY ADOPT THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE

01:44:23 THAT WAS FILED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

01:44:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THAT MEANS -- THAT ANY PROJECT THAT'S

01:44:35 UMU-60 OR CMU-35 OR CC-35 INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, YOU

01:44:44 WOULD NOT HAVE ANY F.A.R. AND SO FORTH INVOLVED IN IT?

01:44:48 >>CATE WELLS: IF APPROVED, WE WOULD SUSPEND THE PROCESSING

01:44:54 OF REZONING APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE SINGLE-USE PROJECTS THAT

01:44:58 RELY ON F.A.R. FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THOSE FUTURE LAND USE

01:45:02 CATEGORIES.

01:45:03 IT WOULD NOT PROHIBIT, HOWEVER, DEVELOPERS OR PROPERTY

01:45:06 OWNERS FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT SAME TYPE OF REZONING

01:45:10 APPLICATION BASED ON DENSITY, SO LIKE CMU-35, THEY WOULD BE

01:45:15 ALLOWED UP TO PERMITTED UP TO 30 UNITS TO THE ACRE, AND

01:45:19 UMU-60, I BELIEVE UP TO 50 UNITS TO THE ACRE, SO THEY COULD




01:45:23 STILL PROCESS THOSE APPLICATIONS BASED ON DENSITY, JUST NOT

01:45:28 F.A.R.

01:45:28 ALTERNATIVELY, FILE AN APPLICATION FOR A MIXED USE PRODUCT.

01:45:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU

01:45:37 CAN CONTINUE MANUFACTURING A BUILDING IN THESE AREAS MINUS

01:45:42 THE F.A.R.?

01:45:43 >>CATE WELLS: THAT IS CORRECT.

01:45:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:45:47 I GOT IT NOW.

01:45:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THEN DINGFELDER.

01:45:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS BASICALLY MY QUESTION.

01:45:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MIRANDA.

01:45:56 BECAUSE I AM KIND OF CONFUSED WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT

01:46:00 NO ONE NEW ABOUT THIS TRANSPIRING.

01:46:03 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND CITIZENS HAVE BEEN TALKING

01:46:05 ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE, SO TO ME IT'S DISINGENUOUS FOR THE

01:46:09 COMMUNITY TO SAY WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS, WE JUST DID

01:46:12 THIS OUT OF SHORT NOTICE.

01:46:14 IT'S UNFAIR TO THE CITIZENS AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

01:46:17 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.

01:46:18 MY ISSUE IS THIS.

01:46:21 THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, HOW LONG DOES THE PLAN AMENDMENT

01:46:25 PROCESS TAKE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION?

01:46:27 >>CATE WELLS: THE AMENDMENT WAS FILED THIS WEEK AND WILL BE

01:46:34 INCLUDED IN THE MAY CYCLE.




01:46:38 THE AMENDMENT WOULD THEN BE SCHEDULED FOR BRIEFING BEFORE

01:46:40 THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JULY, AND THEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING

01:46:44 IN AUGUST.

01:46:45 IT WOULD THEN COME TO THE CITY IN SEPTEMBER FOR TRANSMITTAL

01:46:49 TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, AND WE WOULD

01:46:53 ANTICIPATE BASED ON THAT TIMELINE THAT WE COULD SCHEDULE THE

01:46:56 ADOPTION, PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY

01:47:00 27th OF 2022.

01:47:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO APPROXIMATELY NINE MONTHS THAT F WE

01:47:11 WENT FOR THE RESOLUTION ORDINANCE TODAY, GIVE THAT GRACE

01:47:15 PERIOD NINE-MONTH PERIOD, FOLLOW UP WITH THE ACTUAL PLANNING

01:47:17 COMMISSION ADOPTION, CORRECT?

01:47:21 >>CATE WELLS: CORRECT.

01:47:21 THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS HAS BEEN INITIATED, AND IF IT IS

01:47:26 COUNCIL'S DECISION TO SUSPEND THE PROCESSING OF APPLICATIONS

01:47:30 DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, YOU WOULD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD

01:47:33 WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE FILED FOR YOUR

01:47:36 CONSIDERATION.

01:47:37 ALTERNATIVIVELY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT

01:47:40 ORDINANCE AND JUST ALLOW THE PLANNING PROCESS TO CONTINUE,

01:47:45 AND THEN DEAL WITH THE ISSUE WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR

01:47:48 TRANSMITTAL AND THEN FINAL ADOPTION IN JANUARY.

01:47:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT IF WE WORK FORWARD, DEVELOPERS,

01:47:54 WHOEVER, CAN STILL DEVELOP, THEY JUST CAN'T GO OVER THE

01:47:58 DENSITY PORTION.




01:47:59 CORRECT?

01:48:04 >>CATE WELLS: IF YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE, THE INTERIM

01:48:08 DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE, DEVELOPERS COULD STILL

01:48:12 DEVELOP A SINGLE-USE PRODUCT UNDER THE DENSITY.

01:48:16 ALTERNATIVELY, THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A MIXED USE

01:48:19 CONCEPT.

01:48:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS ON THE

01:48:24 TABLE TO TRY TO GET TO THE SAME END RESULT, TO BE HONEST

01:48:27 WITH YOU, STILL THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME.

01:48:30 SO I DON'T SEE WHAT -- IN MY MIND, FROM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING,

01:48:34 YOU STILL CAN MOVE FORWARD.

01:48:36 IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD, YOU ARE SAYING WE ALREADY PUT --

01:48:39 THE TRAIN HAS ALREADY LEFT THE STATION TO GO TO THE PLANNING

01:48:42 COMMISSION STILL.

01:48:43 SO I AM JUST NOT REALLY SEEING WHAT THE BIG FUSS IS AT THIS

01:48:47 PARTICULAR POINT, BUT I YIELD BACK, MR. CHAIR.

01:48:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE OPTION IS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH

01:48:52 SENDING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE

01:48:54 FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE.

01:48:55 COUNTY BE A TWO-PART -- OR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, VOTE OR NOT

01:49:00 VOTE.

01:49:01 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER THEN VIERA.

01:49:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROCEDURALLY, THAT'S TRUE.

01:49:08 BUT LEGALLY, I THINK WITHOUT THE ORDINANCE, WE ARE NOT

01:49:12 PUTTING PEOPLE -- WE ARE NOT PUTTING THOSE DEVELOPERS ON




01:49:15 NOTICE, AND THEY COULD CONTINUE TO USE THE NEXT NINE MONTHS

01:49:18 TO PROCESS EVERYTHING THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.

01:49:21 SO IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING ANYTHING AT ALL, I THINK

01:49:24 THE ORDINANCE IS IMPORTANT.

01:49:27 BUT I DO AGREE, I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID IT, BUT I DO AGREE, I

01:49:33 THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID THAT THE DEVELOPERS' OBJECTIONS

01:49:36 TO ME SOUND LIKE THE WIZARD OF OZ, LIONS AND TIGERS AND

01:49:40 BEARS, OH MY!

01:49:42 THIS IS NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.

01:49:43 THIS IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE MORATORIUM BY ANY MEANS.

01:49:46 YOU KNOW, AND CATE EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL. IF YOU HAVE A

01:49:52 CMU-35 LAND USE CATEGORY, THOSE DEVELOPERS CAN STILL COME

01:49:55 IN, YOU KNOW, AND GET OR AT LEAST ASK FOR A REZONING AT THAT

01:50:01 LEVEL, EITHER 30 OR 35 UNITS, DEPENDING ON I THINK THEY

01:50:06 START AT 30 AND IF THEY MEET SOME OTHER BONUS CRITERIA, THEN

01:50:10 THEY CAN GET UP TO 35.

01:50:12 ALL WE ARE SAYING IS DON'T COME IN WITH THAT F.A.R.

01:50:15 CALCULATION THAT OFTEN TAKES THEM UP TO WHAT IS IT, MS.

01:50:18 FEELEY, LIKE 40 OR 50 UNITS PER ACRE ON OCCASION.

01:50:23 AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE.

01:50:26 YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US IS GETTING BARRAGED WITH

01:50:30 E-MAILS AND CORRESPONDENCE AND PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE ALL

01:50:34 OVER THE CITY SAYING WE DON'T HAVE A HANDLE ON TRAFFIC, ON

01:50:39 EVACUATION, ON FLOOD BEING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND WE ARE

01:50:43 GRANTING OR AT LEAST CONSIDERING WHEN THESE REZONING




01:50:47 APPLICATIONS AT A VERY, VERY HIGH DENSITY, AND WE NEED TO

01:50:51 SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT UNTIL SOME OF THESE STUDIES ARE

01:50:54 DONE, ESPECIALLY THESE FLOODING STUDIES THAT ARE GOING TO

01:50:57 HAVE TO BE HAPPENING SOUTH OF GANDY.

01:50:59 SO I DON'T THINK, IT'S NOT A HORRIFIC, YOU KNOW,

01:51:06 INFRINGEMENT UPON PROPERTY RATES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

01:51:10 IF IT WAS, LEGAL COUNSEL WOULD TELL US AND THEY WOULD WARN

01:51:13 US THAT THIS COULD BE A RISKY PROPOSITION, AND I DON'T THINK

01:51:18 THAT WE HAVE HEARD THAT.

01:51:19 I THINK IT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE RESPONSE TO A VERY SERIOUS

01:51:24 PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN STATED BY MANY, MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:51:28 BUT I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MS. FEELEY.

01:51:32 I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OFFLINE LAST WEEK.

01:51:35 THIS F.A.R. HAS NOT BEEN AROUND FOREVER, HAS IT?

01:51:37 I THINK THIS F.A.R. CALCULATION WAS SOMETHING, DIDN'T WE

01:51:41 TALK ABOUT THIS AS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST TEN

01:51:44 YEARS OR 15 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

01:51:47 IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S BEEN AROUND FOREVER.

01:51:50 AM I CORRECT, MS. FEELEY.

01:51:56 WHERE DID SHE GO?

01:51:58 OR MS. WELLS, IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER.

01:52:00 OH, THERE SHE IS.

01:52:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH

01:52:06 MANAGEMENT.

01:52:07 IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE LATE 80s.




01:52:17 THE BONUS HAS NOT --

01:52:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

01:52:22 THAT BONUS -- WELL, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, IS USING

01:52:25 THE F.A.R. AS A DIFFERENT WAY TO CALCULATE YOUR BONUS

01:52:28 DENSITY.

01:52:28 I THOUGHT WE CONCLUDED THAT THAT CAME INTO PLAY LIKE IN THE

01:52:33 2007 OR 2008 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

01:52:35 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WELL, THE BONUS WENT FROM 7 TO 10 AND THEN

01:52:44 TO AN ABSOLUTE FIGURE, BUT THROUGH OUR RESEARCH, NONE OF THE

01:52:48 PROJECTS SOUTH OF GANDY HAVE EXECUTED BONUS.

01:52:52 THEY HAVE BEEN ACHIEVING DENSITY ABOVE THAT WHICH WAS

01:52:55 PLANNED THROUGH THE UTILIZATION OF THE F.A.R.

01:52:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

01:52:58 ALL RIGHT.

01:52:59 WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

01:53:02 LIKE I SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THAT BIG A

01:53:05 DEAL, BUT I DO THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO DO ANYTHING, WE NEED

01:53:08 TO DO THE ORDINANCE AND DO THEM HAND IN HAND, SO AT LEAST

01:53:10 THE MESSAGE GETS OUT TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT WE

01:53:13 ARE SERIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THIS.

01:53:14 OTHERWISE, WE HAVE WASTED A LOT OF TIME.

01:53:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.

01:53:19 COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:53:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

01:53:21 A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS IF I MAY THAT I WAS WRITING DOWN.




01:53:24 AND I'LL GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON IT A BIT.

01:53:29 WITH PLAN AMENDMENTS, HAS THE CITY TRIED TO DO THIS -- AND I

01:53:35 MAY BE USING THE INCORRECT LEGAL TERMINOLOGY BUT WE ARE

01:53:39 STARTING A PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS AND WE SEEK TO IMPLEMENT

01:53:41 THE EFFECTS OF THAT PLAN AMENDMENT PRIOR.

01:53:44 HAVE WE DONE THIS?

01:53:46 MAYBE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE

01:53:49 DONE IT SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE.

01:53:51 IN ANY RECENT TIME HAS THE CITY SOUGHT TO DO THIS?

01:53:55 >> I CAN ADDRESS THAT FROM THE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN I WAS

01:54:00 HERE BETWEEN 2001 AND 2006 AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR

01:54:05 PROCESSING PLAN AMENDMENTS.

01:54:06 I DON'T RECALL THAT INTERIM CONTROL ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED

01:54:13 DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME OF THAT PROCESSING.

01:54:17 AND THIS IS THE SECOND BATCH A LITTLE OVER 18 MONTHS.

01:54:21 THIS OF COURSE BY THIS CITY COUNCIL IS THE FIRST TIME WE

01:54:24 HAVE DISCUSSED IT.

01:54:25 I DON'T KNOW IF ABBEY, IF YOU RECALL IN THE INTERIM IF

01:54:28 THAT'S BEEN UTILIZED.

01:54:29 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE INCIDENCE

01:54:35 POTENTIAL ZONE WITH MacDILL AND THE DENSITY DOWN IN THAT

01:54:39 AREA, THEY ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT.

01:54:43 IT DIDN'T PASS.

01:54:45 WE HAVE USED IT OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE DO PENDING ORDINANCE FOR

01:54:50 TEXT AMENDMENTS IS MORE OF WHAT I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL IS




01:54:53 FAMILIAR WITH, WHEN WE HAD USED IT, THE TEXT AMENDMENT WOULD

01:54:59 COME BEFORE YOU, AND FROM THE PERIOD OF TIME WE WOULD SAY

01:55:05 THAT WOULD BE THE PENDING ORDINANCE.

01:55:06 SO MORE SO IN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS STANDPOINT THAN

01:55:10 IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

01:55:12 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, THANK YOU.

01:55:15 AND MAYBE I MISHEARD.

01:55:17 I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SAID THIS.

01:55:18 THIS DENSITY BONUS PROVISION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, SCALING

01:55:22 BACK, SO LAST TIME, WE STARTED TO PUSH FORWARD THE TEXT

01:55:27 AMENDMENT ON THIS, AS I RECALL, I GUESS TWO WEEKS AGO.

01:55:30 DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THAT NO ONE HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THIS

01:55:33 SOUTH OF GANDY?

01:55:34 OR DID I MISHEAR THAT?

01:55:36 I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MISTAKE.

01:55:38 >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO WHAT'S BEEN OCCURRING SOUTH OF GANDY IN

01:55:43 THESE MIXED USE CATEGORIES TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU MAY

01:55:46 EITHER USE DENSITY, OR FLOOR AREA RATIO ... AND A FLOOR AREA

01:55:55 RATIO UTILIZATION DOES NOT REQUIRE BONUS.

01:56:00 SO IF YOU CAN DEVELOP UP TO A 1 F.A.R., FOR EXAMPLE, CMU-35,

01:56:08 AND I USE THE EXAMPLE OF BECAUSE THAT WOULD GET YOU 43,560

01:56:17 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

01:56:18 IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT UNIT, YOU ARE

01:56:22 GETTING 43 UNITS, WHICH IN THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORY, A

01:56:28 DENSITY ONLY GETS YOU 30 UNITS TO THE ACRE.




01:56:31 IF YOU WANT A BONUS, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE GAP IN BETWEEN

01:56:37 30 AND 35.

01:56:38 SO WHAT'S BEEN OCCURRING IS THE THERE'S A UTILIZATION WITH

01:56:42 THE ALLOWANCE WHICH THE CODE CURRENTLY HAS UTILIZATION OF

01:56:45 F.A.R., PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING DENSITY THAT IS BEYOND WHAT WAS

01:56:51 PLANNED FOR.

01:56:52 SO AT THE 43 UNITS AN ACRE THERE'S 13 MORE THAN WHAT WAS

01:56:56 PLANNED FOR AT THE 30 UNITS AN ACHE OAR BUT IT IS NOT A

01:57:01 BONUS BECAUSE THEY ARE WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE F.A.R.

01:57:04 SO THERE'S SOME UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES WHICH HAVE

01:57:08 ARRIVED IN THE UTILIZATION OF F.A.R. RESULTING IN PROJECTS

01:57:11 THAT ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DENSE THAN WHAT WAS PLANNED FOR.

01:57:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

01:57:19 >>CATE WELLS: AND IF I MAY SUPPLEMENT MY RESPONSE IN REGARD

01:57:23 TO THE USE OF THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE, WHILE A PLAN AMENDMENT

01:57:26 IS IN PROCESS.

01:57:27 I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WHILE THE PENDING ORDINANCE

01:57:30 DOCTRINE HAS BEEN UTILIZED WHEN WE ARE AMENDING CHAPTER 27

01:57:33 OF THE CODE, IMPLEMENTING A PLAN AMENDMENT THROUGH A

01:57:37 MORATORIUM BEFORE IT'S FORMALLY ADOPTED HAS NOT BEEN

01:57:40 UTILIZED BY THE CITY HISTORICALLY.

01:57:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?

01:57:48 ALL RIGHT.

01:57:48 HEARING NONE, WHAT -- IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, MS. WELLS?

01:57:54 >>CATE WELLS: NO, SIR.




01:57:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PROCEDURE THAT

01:57:57 YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, MS. WELLS, TO MOVE BOTH OF THESE

01:58:00 FORWARD?

01:58:01 >>CATE WELLS: WELL, THE PLAN AMENDMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN

01:58:06 FILED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THE ONLY ISSUE BEFORE

01:58:09 YOU IS WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE

01:58:12 INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE.

01:58:14 IF YOU DO, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TODAY TO PLACE IT ON FIRST

01:58:18 READING DURING YOUR REGULAR MEETING ON MAY 6th.

01:58:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S MY MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:58:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

01:58:26 THIS IS A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER FOR THE IDCO AS

01:58:32 ABBREVIATED, ACRONYM.

01:58:34 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

01:58:37 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.

01:58:40 YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

01:58:41 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS BRIEFLY ON

01:58:44 THIS IF I MAY.

01:58:45 JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC WATCHING THIS, I GUESS IT

01:58:48 WAS -- AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG -- TWO WEEKS I THINK

01:58:51 AGO, WE VOTED 7-0 ON PROCEEDING WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT

01:58:56 BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET THIS THING STARTED.

01:58:59 YOU KNOW, I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THE POSITION THAT WHEN IT

01:59:02 COMES TO THE MANY, MANY DEMONSTRATED CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE

01:59:06 SOUTH OF GANDY, AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT MANY PARTS OF THE CITY




01:59:10 OF TAMPA THAT ARE EXPERIENCING GROWTH AND WHATNOT, THAT

01:59:14 INCLUDES PARTS OF NORTH TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, ET CETERA, YOU

01:59:16 KNOW THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS

01:59:19 THAT.

01:59:19 ONE THING I HAVE ALWAYS CITED INCLUDING WITH A MEETING WITH

01:59:22 OUR FRIENDS IN THE SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOODS A COUPLE

01:59:26 WEEKS AGO, IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS WHICH I SUPPORTED A

01:59:31 COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AS WELL AS ALWAYS SAY A COUPLE OF OTHER

01:59:34 THINGS THAT I WISH WE WOULD TALK ABOUT CONCURRENT IN THIS

01:59:38 CONVERSATION THAT I THINK ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR FRIEND

01:59:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES ALWAYS SAYS DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN'T

01:59:43 DO, TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN DO.

01:59:45 YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING TODAY THAT MAYBE WE CAN DO.

01:59:49 WHETHER WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T, THAT WILL BE UP TO THIS

01:59:51 COUNCIL.

01:59:51 BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THE REAL

01:59:55 CHALLENGES THAT ARE SOUTH OF GANDY THAT REQUIRE, JUST AS

02:00:00 THIS DOES, BY THE WAY, A LEVEL OF COURAGE, WHATEVER YOU WANT

02:00:05 TO CALL IT AND WHATNOT, IN TERMS OF COMING OUT WITH

02:00:09 SOMETHING.

02:00:10 THAT INCLUDES INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT OBVIOUSLY

02:00:14 COST MONEY.

02:00:14 THAT'S IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

02:00:16 AND YOU TAKE A LOOK AT A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES IN GROWING

02:00:20 AREAS LIKE SOUTH OF GANDY AS WELL AS NEW TAMPA AND OTHER




02:00:23 AREAS, THAT'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

02:00:24 INFRASTRUCTURE IS A BIG DEAL.

02:00:25 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH ROADS, TALKING ABOUT

02:00:27 THINGS LIKE STORMWATER, TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY,

02:00:31 ET CETERA, ANOTHER BIG ONE WHICH IS OBVIOUS ONE IS TRANCE

02:00:35 TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS.

02:00:36 YOU KNOW, IN 2018 I WAS PROUD TO ENDORSE THE ALL FOR

02:00:40 TRANSPORTATION PENNY SALES TAX.

02:00:42 I AM SUPPORTED PUTTING IT BACK ON THE BALLOT TAMPA SAFETY

02:00:48 NET SALES TAX AND 2022 GOD WILLING WHEN IT'S BEFORE US GIVEN

02:00:53 THOSE CHALLENGES, NOT AN EASY DECISION, BUT SOMETHING THAT

02:00:57 WE CERTAINLY ALL SHOULD DO WHENEVER IT COMES TO CHALLENGES

02:01:00 OF GROWTH.

02:01:01 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ROADS.

02:01:02 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MASS TRANSIT AND INFRASTRUCTURE,

02:01:05 ET CETERA.

02:01:05 I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD WAYS TO DO THIS.

02:01:08 PUTTING FORTH A PLAN AMENDMENT AND PUTTING FORTH

02:01:12 SOMETHING -- AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN PEOPLE'S

02:01:15 MOUTHS, BUT SOMETHING THAT ISN'T OFTEN DONE WITH AN

02:01:18 IMPLEMENTATION OF IT SORT OF BETRAYS THE DELIBERATIVE

02:01:22 PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

02:01:24 I THINK THAT WE ALL ULTIMATELY SUPPORT THE PLAN AMENDMENT,

02:01:27 BUT WE OUGHT TO HAVE MORE SCRUTINY ON IMMEDIATE

02:01:30 IMPLEMENTATION OF IT.




02:01:32 THERE OUGHT TO BE MORE SCRUTINY THERE.

02:01:33 OUGHT TO BE MORE DELIBERATION ON THAT ISSUE.

02:01:36 AND A LOT OF FOLKS SAY WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A

02:01:38 YEAR AND A HALF.

02:01:39 WE HAVE.

02:01:39 BUT SOUTH OF GANDY.

02:01:41 AND I WANT TO REMAINED PEOPLE, THIS IS SOMETHING -- AND

02:01:44 PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG -- THAT'S GOING TO BE

02:01:46 CITY-WIDE, BECAUSE OF LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE OF LEGAL

02:01:49 REQUIREMENTS.

02:01:50 I THINK ABOUT UT, I THINK ABOUT AREAS AT USF, ET CETERA, HAS

02:01:55 OUTREACH BEEN DONE, IMPLEMENTED?

02:01:59 I THINK A LITTLE MORE DELIBERATION IS SOMETHING THAT IS

02:02:01 REASONABLE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

02:02:04 AND I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH SAYING

02:02:08 SO.

02:02:08 JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT, IF I MAY.

02:02:10 THANK YOU.

02:02:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

02:02:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, HAVE WE DONE THE OUTREACH?

02:02:15 IS THIS GOING TO BE A CITY-WIDE, AS OTHER FOLKS ARE TALKING

02:02:21 ABOUT IT AND I KNOW IN SOME OF MY AREAS, DENSITY COULD BE

02:02:23 UTILIZED BECAUSE WE NEED SOME HOUSING TO GO ON, SO FORTH.

02:02:28 SO HAS THIS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES OR OTHER

02:02:33 THAN JUST THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS?




02:02:34 THAT'S THE FIRST THING I HAVE.

02:02:36 >>CATE WELLS: THE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT YOU DIRECTED US TO

02:02:39 FILE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TWO WEEKS AGO WOULD BE

02:02:41 CITY-WIDE.

02:02:44 AND THE UMU, CMU-35 AND -- LAND USE CATEGORY THROUGHOUT THE

02:02:51 CITY.

02:02:51 SO THIS ORDINANCE THAT IS BEFORE YOU TRACKS THAT EXACT SAME

02:02:56 LANGUAGE.

02:02:56 SO IT WOULD BE CITY-WIDE WITHIN THOSE FUTURE LAND USE

02:02:59 CATEGORIES.

02:02:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHAT I NEED, SO NOT JUST SOUTH OF

02:03:04 GANDY.

02:03:05 IT'S GOING TO PERTAIN TO EVERYBODY AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.

02:03:08 CORRECT?

02:03:09 >>CATE WELLS: THAT'S CORRECT.

02:03:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS --

02:03:14 AND I AM GLAD MRS. FEELEY KIND OF EXPLAINED THE F.A.R.

02:03:18 DENSITY AND WHAT I CALL A SPECIAL PLAY WHERE YOU ARE ALLOWED

02:03:26 TO DO SOMETHING, BUT SHOULD YOU BE DOING IT?

02:03:28 IT'S KIND OF LIKE A FOOTBALL PLAY, GENTLEMEN, THAT THE

02:03:31 QUARTERBACK WOULDN'T GO UNDER CENTER.

02:03:35 HE WOULD COME UP, AND ONE OF THE PLAYERS COME OVER AND TAP

02:03:38 HIM ON THE SHOULDER AND SAY, HEY, I NEED YOU TO CHANGE THE

02:03:42 BALL, AND LOOK AT THE OFFICIAL.

02:03:45 AND THE CENTER WILL TAKE ONE FULL MOTION, HAND THE BALL TO




02:03:48 THE QUARTERBACK, AND HE RUNS, HE JOGS TO THE SIDE LIKE HE'S

02:03:53 BRINGING ME THE BALL, AND I GIVE HIM A SIGNAL TO GO.

02:03:56 HE GOES FOR A TOUCHDOWN AND SCORES.

02:03:59 THIS IS KIND OF HOW I SEE THIS SITUATION WITH THE DEVELOPERS

02:04:03 AND THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS WITH THIS DEVELOPER HOW MS.

02:04:06 FEELEY EXPLAINED IT AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE AGAIN THE F.A.R.

02:04:09 AND THE DENSITY.

02:04:10 WELL, IF I DO DENSITY I HAVE TO PAY BUT IF I CAN GET THIS

02:04:13 F.A.R. SITUATION, I SLIDE UNDER THE RADAR AND SCORE A

02:04:18 TOUCHDOWN.

02:04:18 SO I AM GOING TO SIT BACK AND SEE HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE ON

02:04:21 THIS.

02:04:22 BUT AGAIN, IT'S DIFFICULT ON BOTH SIDES, BUT IN THE END I

02:04:26 BELIEVE IT WILL WORK OUT, THOUGH.

02:04:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, AND THEN COUNCILMAN

02:04:30 DINGFELDER, I SAW YOUR HAND, SIR.

02:04:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. GUDES, I HEARD A LOT OF THINGS IN MY

02:04:35 LIFE, YOU DESIGNED THAT PLAY OR SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY

02:04:40 SCORED.

02:04:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I USED IT SEVERAL TIMES, AND THEY MADE ME

02:04:45 STOP USING IT SAYING I WAS INTIMIDATING --

02:04:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM LOOKING AT IS, I HAVE HEARD A

02:04:54 LOT ABOUT EVACUATION, EVACUATION, EVACUATION.

02:04:57 AND I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT.

02:04:59 THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, EVEN IF YOU DO YOUR EVACUATION 100%




02:05:03 CORRECTLY ACCORDING TO THE RULES HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO

02:05:07 IT, THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES.

02:05:09 FIRST YOU HAVE THE HURRICANE, YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE DAYS TO

02:05:11 LEAVE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.

02:05:14 AND WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING

02:05:18 THOSE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, INCLUDING THOSE AROUND THE AREA?

02:05:22 YOU HAVE GOT PEOPLE FROM SOUTH, FROM GIBSONTON, AND NORTH,

02:05:27 AND YOU HAVE GOT PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH, ALL NEW TAMPA WHO

02:05:30 LIVE IN THE CITY LIMIT AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE

02:05:32 UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT HAVE TO LEAVE, AND MAYBE YOU HAVE

02:05:37 TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE, GUESS WHAT, NOBODY IS LEAVING.

02:05:40 OR VERY FEW ARE GOING TO LEAVE.

02:05:42 SO I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

02:05:45 BUT LOOK AT THE EXPRESSWAYS NOW.

02:05:48 AT 3:30, AND 5:30, YOU ARE TRYING TO GET OFF THAT

02:05:54 EXPRESSWAY, WEST FROM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO FOWLER AVENUE.

02:05:59 THAT ONLY TAKES YOU A FEW MINUTES, BUT AT THAT TIME IT WILL

02:06:02 TAKE YOU 35, 45 MINUTES WITHOUT A HURRICANE, WITHOUT A

02:06:06 TORNADO, WITHOUT ANY DISRUPTION OF SERVICES.

02:06:09 SO WHAT I AM LOOKING AT IS SOMETHING THAT'S CITY-WIDE, AND

02:06:14 IF I READ THIS RIGHT, IT'S THE SAME STATUS QUO MINUS THE

02:06:17 F.A.R.

02:06:19 FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

02:06:21 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE ORDINANCE IF IT GOES ALL THE WAY

02:06:24 THROUGH THE HEARINGS AND HOW DO YOU REVERT IT BACK IF YOU




02:06:28 HAVE TO?

02:06:28 I BELIEVE THE F.A.R. WAS PUT IN BECAUSE WE WERE DORMANT,

02:06:35 POPULATION INCREASED, AND THIS CITY IS A BUSINESS.

02:06:38 HOWEVER, IT'S A PUBLIC BUSINESS.

02:06:40 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS VERY CAREFULLY, IF YOU KEEP STATUS QUO

02:06:48 AND YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH NOT INCREASING YOUR CUSTOMER

02:06:52 COUNT BY ONE, ANY CITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A POPULATION

02:06:57 INCREASE, GUESS, WHAT IT'S ALSO DYING.

02:07:02 ANY CITY WHO HASN'T MADE SOME COMMITMENTS TO CHANGE FOR THE

02:07:05 FUTURE DOES NOT MAKE IT IN THE NEXT FIFTY YEARS.

02:07:10 SO I AM TRYING TO DO THE BEST I CAN TO MAKE IT DO SOMETHING

02:07:14 FOR THE BETTERMENT.

02:07:15 I'M HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN MY MIND WHICH IS THE BEST

02:07:19 WAY.

02:07:21 THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES HERE THAT WE DO NOT CONTROL.

02:07:26 WE DON'T CONTROL THE WEATHER.

02:07:27 WE DON'T CONTROL THE POPULATION.

02:07:29 WE DON'T CONTROL THE PEOPLE MOVING DOWN AND SAY, HEY, GO

02:07:33 SOMEWHERE ELSE.

02:07:34 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

02:07:36 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND, IT'S NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE

02:07:38 COMING UP FROM THE NORTH THAT ARE STAYING HERE, IT'S THE

02:07:41 KIDS THAT USED TO GO AWAY TO COLLEGE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE

02:07:44 ARE NOW WANTING TO COME BACK AND LIVE IN THE SAME CITY WITH

02:07:47 THEIR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS AND FAMILY, AND THANK GOD




02:07:53 THAT'S HAPPENED.

02:07:55 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS, YOU SAY WHAT WOULD I DO IF I

02:07:58 CHANGE THE RULES, AND IF THE F.A.R. IS USED IN EVERY -- IF

02:08:01 ONLY 1% OF DEVELOPMENT IS F.A.R.?

02:08:10 CAN WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION?

02:08:11 IF THERE'S 40 DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, IT'S 100%

02:08:16 THAT USE THE F.A.R., OR IS IT LESS, OR WHAT IS IT?

02:08:19 I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.

02:08:21 >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, LAND DEVELOPMENT.

02:08:28 I RAN ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, AND IT

02:08:38 VARIES BY LAND USE CATEGORY.

02:08:41 I PULLED OUT THE ONES THAT DID JUST MULTIFAMILY.

02:08:46 SO THERE IS A COMBINATION.

02:08:50 A HAND FULL HAD MULTIFAMILY AND NONRESIDENTIAL USE.

02:08:54 IN THE UMU-60, MANY OF THEM USED DENSITY BECAUSE IT'S UP TO

02:09:01 50 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

02:09:03 IN THE CMU-35 AND THE CC-35, THE MAJORITY OF THEM USED

02:09:08 F.A.R.

02:09:11 BUT I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS.

02:09:15 I DON'T HAVE THAT.

02:09:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER.

02:09:19 BUT I NEED MORE SPECIFIC, LIKE IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN

02:09:24 INTEREST RATE OF A BANK, IT MIGHT BE .002, SOMEBODY MIGHT

02:09:29 HAVE .2.

02:09:30 I DON'T KNOW.




02:09:31 I AM ALSO INTERESTED TO FIND OUT WHERE WE STAND.

02:09:33 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ENOUGH ARE USING IT THAT WE CAN

02:09:37 SAY, LISTEN, THIS WAS DONE TO ENHANCE POPULATION TO MOVE IN,

02:09:42 TO INCREASE THE POPULATION, AND WE ARE GETTING CALLS TO THE

02:09:46 MAXIMUM THAT WE CAN STAND, AND THAT'S WHY.

02:09:52 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I REPORTED WHEN I CAME BEFORE YOU A FEW

02:09:54 WEEKS AGO THAT SEVERAL PROJECTS, AND NOT SOUTH OF GANDY IN

02:09:59 THE CMU-35, WOULD BE ALLOWED UP TO 30 DENSITY WITHOUT A

02:10:06 BONUS WERE OVER 100 UNITS TO THE ACRE BY USING F.A.R.

02:10:11 SO IT WAS MORE THAN DOUBLE, MORE THAN TRIPLE, YOU KNOW, IN

02:10:15 SOME CASES.

02:10:16 ONE PROJECT WAS AT 137 UNITS TO THE ACRE, AND OUR HIGHEST

02:10:22 LAND USE CATEGORY WAS IN THE CITY WHICH IS THE REGIONAL

02:10:26 MIXED USE 100.

02:10:27 THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE GOT 100 UNITS TO THE ACRE BY RIGHT.

02:10:31 THERE IS NO TIER BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING TO DO

02:10:35 THE GROWTH.

02:10:36 SO THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT GROWTH DUE TO THE UTILIZATION

02:10:46 OF THE F.A.R.

02:10:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:10:49 I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

02:10:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WE'LL WRAP IT UP.

02:10:51 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IT'S YOUR MOTION.

02:10:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.

02:10:54 I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO MR. VIERA REAL QUICK.




02:10:58 AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, LUIS.

02:11:04 I GUESS WHAT YOU SAID MAKES A GOOD POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT,

02:11:08 YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE SAID IT IN THE PAST, IF YOU ARE

02:11:11 TRYING TO FIX ONE THING AND THEN YOU GO OFF AND MESS

02:11:14 SOMETHING ELSE UP, AND I KNOW THAT'S YOUR LEGITIMATE

02:11:16 CONCERN.

02:11:17 BUT HERE IS THE DEAL.

02:11:18 THERE IS A MIXED USE EXCEPTION HERE, OKAY?

02:11:22 ALL THE DEVELOPER HAS TO DO, NO MATTER IF THEY ARE

02:11:25 DEVELOPING IN YBOR CITY OR ARMATURE OR SOME OTHER PLACE THAT

02:11:30 WE MIGHT BE IMPACTING BY THIS.

02:11:31 ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS INCLUDE A COMPONENT OF MIXED USE.

02:11:37 AND I JUST CONFIRMED THIS MORNING WITH OUR LEGAL STAFF, THAT

02:11:40 COMPONENT COULD BE VERY SMALL.

02:11:43 YOU COULD HAVE 100,000 SQUARE FOOT PROJECT AND PUT IN A

02:11:47 1,000 SQUARE FOOT LITTLE CONVENIENCE STORE AND ALL OF A

02:11:50 SUDDEN YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED AT ALL BY THIS

02:11:53 ORDINANCE AND BY THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE ABOUT

02:11:55 TO PASS.

02:11:55 SO AGAIN, LIONS, TIGERS AND BEARS, I THINK THEY ARE

02:12:00 OVERSTATING IT.

02:12:01 IF IT'S A CMU CATEGORY IT'S MEANT TO BE USED AS A MIXED USE.

02:12:05 BUT THEN THEY OPT NOT TO OR THEY DO IT ON A ANOTHER BASIS.

02:12:10 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS AS LONG AS THEY COME IN WITH SOME

02:12:14 TYPE OF LEVEL OF TRULY MIXED USE, NO MATTER HOW SMALL, WE




02:12:18 STILL HAVE TO CONSIDER IT.

02:12:19 WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT WE HAVE TO

02:12:22 CONSIDER IT.

02:12:23 SO WE ARE NOT STOPPING THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN YBOR

02:12:25 CITY, AND CATE OR ABBEY, IF YOU DISAGREE WITH WAY JUST SAID,

02:12:31 PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN.

02:12:33 BUT I THINK WHAT I SAID IS ACCURATE.

02:12:34 >>CATE WELLS: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU

02:12:41 SAID.

02:12:41 THE APPLICATIONS CAN BE FILED.

02:12:44 WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL DEPENDING

02:12:46 ON COMPATIBILITY AND OTHER ISSUES, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE

02:12:50 DISCUSSION.

02:12:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

02:12:53 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AGREE.

02:12:54 I'LL CHIME IN TO AGREE.

02:12:56 AND THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS YOUR JURISDICTION TODAY AND

02:13:02 THAT IS NOT CHANGING.

02:13:03 SO YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

02:13:07 PROJECTS, ONE THAT I WAS USING AS AN EXAMPLE AT THE CORNER

02:13:13 OF WILLOW AND CASS, THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL, SOME OF YOU

02:13:16 WERE ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, SOME OF YOU WERE NOT.

02:13:18 THE FIRST TIME IT CAME, IT DID HAVE MIXED USE COMPONENTS.

02:13:22 YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT, WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE, WHAT REALLY

02:13:24 CONSTITUTES MIXED USE.




02:13:26 I BELIEVE THE PROJECT WAS DENIED THE FIRST TIME.

02:13:28 CAME BACK HAVING LISTENED TO THE MESSAGES THAT WERE SENT,

02:13:34 THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD, AND THEN DID COME BACK WITH A

02:13:38 GREATER MIXED USE COMPONENT.

02:13:39 ONE OF THE THINGS BEHIND THE MIXED USE IS THAT IT CREATES

02:13:42 THOSE OTHER USES THAT OFFSET REGIONAL DENSITY.

02:13:49 SO IF YOU ARE HAVING A USE ON THE SAME PROPERTY, THAT TRIP

02:13:53 THAT IS IN A SINGLE USE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE LEAVING THE

02:13:56 PROPERTY TO ACCESS THE NONRESIDENTIAL COMPONENT MAY NOW STAY

02:14:00 WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE DRY CLEANER OR

02:14:05 THE COFFEE SHOPS OR THE OTHER NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE

02:14:08 BEING INTEGRATED INTO THE PROJECT AND ACTUALLY ACHIEVING

02:14:15 MIXED USE AND THAT INTERNAL CAPTURE TO SOME OF THOSE IMPACTS

02:14:18 THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SINGLE USE DEVELOPMENT.

02:14:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.

02:14:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, MR. CHAIR.

02:14:27 I APPRECIATE IT.

02:14:29 AND AGAIN, FOR ME, MY CONCERNS ARE NOT A MATTER OF SUBSTANCE

02:14:32 INASMUCH AS THEY ARE A MATTER OF PROCEDURE.

02:14:36 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH IS

02:14:38 CITY-WIDE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO UNINTENDED

02:14:41 CONSEQUENCES, YOU KNOW, THIS GOES FORWARD TODAY, AND PEOPLE

02:14:45 HEAR SHOULD 100% VOTE THEIR CONSCIENCE AND THAT'S 110% RATE

02:14:49 TO DO AND WHATNOT.

02:14:50 BUT I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON FUSS THIS GOES FORWARD




02:14:54 BECAUSE FIRST READING, SECOND READING, ET CETERA, TO DO ALL

02:14:58 OF US DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN TERMS OF INQUIRING WITH

02:15:01 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING, AND MAYBE I

02:15:04 MISSED IT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF OUTREACH HAD BEEN DONE TO

02:15:08 NUMEROUS COMMITTEES.

02:15:09 I'M TRYING TO REACH OUT TO NORTH TAMPA, TAMPA INNOVATION,

02:15:12 DIFFERENT GROUPS, AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO ONE

02:15:16 INTENDED CONSEQUENCES WITH THIS.

02:15:18 SO AGAIN, FOR ME, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, I THINK

02:15:22 THIS IS A GOOD PLAN AMENDMENT THAT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE

02:15:25 PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS.

02:15:26 I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER CONCURRENT THINGS THAT WE CAN

02:15:29 DO ON THIS, INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE, SUPPORT ALL FOR

02:15:34 TRANSPORTATION, GO THROUGH THE TEXT AMENDMENT PROCESS, AND

02:15:37 BY THE WAY, WE ARE GETTING AMERICAN RELIEF ACT DOLLARS OVER

02:15:41 $80 MILLION SOME OF WHICH CAN GO TO SOME OF THESE LEGITIMATE

02:15:46 CONCERNS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

02:15:47 SO AGAIN, MINE IS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE, NOT AS MUCH ON

02:15:52 SUBSTANCE.

02:15:53 BUT AGAIN, MEMBERS SHOULD 100% VOTE THEIR CONSCIENCE AND I

02:15:57 KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK ON THIS,

02:16:00 AND I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

02:16:02 THANK YOU.

02:16:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

02:16:04 DINGFELDER.




02:16:05 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.

02:16:08 ROLL CALL VOTE.

02:16:09 AND THIS IS FOR THE IDCO AS I CALL IT.

02:16:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PUT IT ON FOR FIRST READING.

02:16:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL BE MAY 6th FIRST READING.

02:16:21 MOTION BY DINGFELDER, SECOND BY GUDES.

02:16:23 ROLL CALL VOTE.

02:16:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE IN THE FUTURE

02:16:27 WHEN THIS UP ON FIRST READING BUT I WILL VOTE NO FOR TODAY.

02:16:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]

02:16:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

02:16:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

02:16:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE]

02:16:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.

02:16:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.

02:16:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, MIRANDA AND

02:16:53 MANISCALCO VOTING NO.

02:16:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:16:57 THAT'S IT FOR THE AGENDA.

02:16:59 AND THERE'S NO NIGHT MEETING.

02:17:03 AND IT'S 2:20.

02:17:05 ALL RIGHT.

02:17:05 NEW BUSINESS.

02:17:06 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?

02:17:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO WISH ABLATED BIRTHDAY TO




02:17:13 A DEAR FRIEND OF BASEBALL, IN THE HALL OF FAME, PETE ROSE 80

02:17:20 YEARS OLD YESTERDAY.

02:17:21 I JUST WANT TO WISH HIM A HAPPY 80.

02:17:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND THAT.

02:17:25 PETE ROSE, I BELIEVE IN FORGIVENESS AND MOVING ON, AND PETE

02:17:28 ROSE IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

02:17:30 SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HIM.

02:17:32 THANK YOU, SIR.

02:17:33 ANYTHING ELSE?

02:17:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.

02:17:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON.

02:17:37 >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE THINGS.

02:17:46 I HAVE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE WALLBRIGHT PEOPLE AND SIDEWALK

02:17:53 HOPPERS AND DEVELOPERS.

02:17:54 YESTERDAY WE HAD A MEETING WITH A BUNCH OF THEM TOGETHER

02:17:57 TALKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE COULD BUILD A NEW SIDEWALK FOALS

02:18:01 THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY CONSENSUS SIMILAR TO THE TREE ONE A

02:18:07 COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT WAS UNFORTUNATELY UNDONE BY THE

02:18:10 LEGISLATURE.

02:18:11 ANYWAY THAT PROCESS IS PROCEEDING.

02:18:13 BUT IN THE MEANTIME THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE SEEN

02:18:18 WHERE IF A HOMEOWNER DOES NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF

02:18:25 THEIR HOME AND THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM A

02:18:30 SCHOOL, THE CITY CANNOT, I THINK BY STATE LAW, BUILD A

02:18:34 CROSSWALK FROM THE SCHOOL TO THAT CORNER.




02:18:36 AND BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THAT

02:18:41 PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF DANGEROUS

02:18:43 SITUATIONS WHERE KIDS AND FAMILIES CANNOT CROSS BECAUSE WE

02:18:47 CAN'T LEGALLY BUILD CROSSWALKS.

02:18:49 SO IN CONSULTATION, I KNOW THERE'S A SIDEWALK PLAN GOING ON

02:18:53 AS PART OF THE MOBILITY EXERCISE, AND THERE'S A THING THAT

02:18:56 WE ARE WORKING ON, BUT JUST TO TRY TO TRIAGE THIS IMMEDIATE

02:19:00 WHAT I CONSIDER DANGEROUS SITUATION.

02:19:01 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE MOBILITY STAFF TO

02:19:05 STUDY THE POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLING CROSSWALKS WHERE NEAR

02:19:09 ALL-WAY STOPS OR LIGHTS AT EVERY PUBLIC SCHOOL ENTRANCE,

02:19:12 EXIT, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FROM THE SCHOOL PROPERTY TO THE

02:19:17 IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT BLOCK.

02:19:19 THE CROSSWALKS CANNOT BE INSTALLED BECAUSE THERE IS NOT AN

02:19:22 EXISTING SIDEWALK.

02:19:23 SIDEWALK WOULD BE INSTALLED BY THE CITY TO ALLOW THE

02:19:27 CROSSWALK INSTALLATION, AND THIS WOULD BE REPORTED BACK TO

02:19:31 COUNCIL AT THE JUNE 24th WORKSHOP TO TRY TO PROVIDE

02:19:35 PLENTY OF TIME.

02:19:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

02:19:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.

02:19:39 THAT'S A GREAT MOTION.

02:19:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I BRING TO COUNCIL'S

02:19:46 ATTENTION JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE IS NEXT WEEK, APRIL 22ND

02:19:50 WORKSHOP, IS A DISCUSSION OF THE SIDEWALKS.




02:19:55 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTENT --

02:19:59 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.

02:20:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.

02:20:03 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS A SPECIFIC MICROISSUE.

02:20:06 AND THE ISSUE IS WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE PLACES WHERE IT CAN'T

02:20:09 BE CROSSWALKS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER

02:20:12 SIDE.

02:20:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO ARE YOU REQUESTING THEN THE 24th OF

02:20:16 JUNE?

02:20:17 IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?

02:20:19 DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY?

02:20:21 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

02:20:22 THE 24th OF JUNE.

02:20:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU PRESENTLY HAVE A COMMENDATION FOR

02:20:25 POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.

02:20:26 YOU ALSO HAVE PRESENTLY IN JUNE THE STAFF TO PRESENT LAND

02:20:30 DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS.

02:20:32 I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG THAT TAKES.

02:20:34 DO YOU WISH TO SCHEDULE THIS -- THAT'S AS 9:00.

02:20:37 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SCHEDULE THIS FOR 10:00 THEN?

02:20:39 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S OKAY WITH ME.

02:20:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUND GOOD.

02:20:42 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

02:20:44 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:20:45 ALL IN FAVOR?




02:20:46 AYE.

02:20:48 ANY OPPOSED?

02:20:48 ANYTHING ELSE?

02:20:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

02:20:51 THEN ONE MORE.

02:20:53 YOU MAY HAVE SEEN WHAT I THINK IS VERY BAD NEWS.

02:20:56 WE KNEW THAT WAS COMING, BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE VOTED

02:21:00 YESTERDAY TO REQUIRE MUNICIPALITIES TO FORCE PEOPLE TO DRINK

02:21:06 TOILET WATER, ESSENTIALLY, AND THIS GOVERNOR WAS SUPPOSED TO

02:21:11 SIGN IT AS EARLY AS TODAY.

02:21:14 I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE NEWS TO SEE IF THAT WAS SIGNED

02:21:16 ALREADY.

02:21:16 I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING FOR A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE AND

02:21:21 GOVERNOR, THIS IS FISCALLY RECKLESS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO

02:21:24 COST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR EACH CITY.

02:21:27 YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT $400 MILLION PLUS 20 TO 40

02:21:30 MILLION A YEAR IN OPERATING EXPENSES. WE HAVE PLENTY OF

02:21:33 SUPPLY OF WATER FOR 20, 30 YEARS WITHOUT HAVING TO DRINK

02:21:35 TOILET WATER.

02:21:36 AND I WISH THAT THE CITY HAD LOBBIED AGAINST IT AND MAYBE

02:21:41 THERE'S STILL A WAY TO MODIFY IT, BECAUSE UNLIKE THE REST OF

02:21:44 THE STATE, WE HAVE TAMPA BAY WATER, WE HAVE A REGIONAL

02:21:46 SUPPLY AND A REGIONAL PLAN.

02:21:48 WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS THE REST OF THE STATE HAS,

02:21:51 AND IT'S UNFAIR THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CHARGE OUR RATE




02:21:54 PAYERS FIVE TO TEN DOLLARS A MONTH JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE THE

02:21:58 RIGHT TO DRINK TOILET WATER.

02:21:59 AND SO THERE IS A WORKSHOP DISCUSSION COMING UP ON PURE,

02:22:07 WHICH IS THE NEW NAME FOR TOILET TO TAP, ON MAY 27th.

02:22:11 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE -- I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SEPARATE

02:22:14 DISCUSSION JUST ABOUT THIS LEGAL ISSUE.

02:22:16 AND APOLOGIES TO GINA, IF THIS IS TOO SOON.

02:22:20 WE CAN SCHEDULE IT LATER.

02:22:22 BUT SINCE THE OTHER THING IS ON MAY 27th, AND THAT'S ON

02:22:25 A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A LEGAL

02:22:27 OPINION BY THEN SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS WOULD COME JUST

02:22:31 BEFORE THE OTHER DISCUSSION, AND IDEALLY WOULD BE BY AN

02:22:37 ATTORNEY WHO STUDIES LEGISLATIVE ISSUES SEPARATE FROM JUST

02:22:40 WATER.

02:22:40 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY LEGAL STAFF TO

02:22:43 REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE MAY 27th WORKSHOP ON THE

02:22:48 NEW STATE LEGISLATION REGARDING TOILET TO TAP, AND ITS

02:22:51 IMPACT ON THE CITY OF TAMPA.

02:22:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL CHECK THE DATE.

02:22:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

02:22:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

02:22:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL CONSIDER SECONDING IT, BUT IF YOU

02:23:02 COULD MODIFY THE WORD "TOILET TO TAP."

02:23:07 >> UH-HUH.

02:23:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE




02:23:11 INFLAMMATORY AND KIND OF ALLUDE TO THE FACT THAT MAYBE WE

02:23:17 DON'T WANT IT OR WE DO WANT IT, AND I HAVEN'T DECIDED YET.

02:23:22 SO IF THERE'S A BETTER TERM FOR THAT, I'M ALWAYS UP FOR

02:23:26 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

02:23:28 I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

02:23:29 OF COURSE, WE ALL WANTS TO BE INFORMED ON WHAT THE STATUTE

02:23:33 DOES OR DOESN'T SAY.

02:23:34 AND I AM ALL FOR THAT, BILL.

02:23:35 >>BILL CARLSON: AND JUST -- THIS IS NOT AN ANALYSIS OF

02:23:39 WHETHER WE SHOULD APPROVE OUR OWN PROJECT.

02:23:41 THIS IS JUST AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE STATE IS TELLING US WE

02:23:44 HAVE TO DO.

02:23:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN WE CALL IT RECLAIMED WATER?

02:23:47 CAN WE CALL IT --

02:23:50 >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE STATE WIDE REPORTS OUTSIDE OF TAMPA

02:23:53 THEY ARE CALLING IT TOILET TO TAP.

02:23:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S THE LEGISLATORS --

02:23:58 >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT IF WE CALL IT CONVERTING

02:24:00 WASTEWATER TO DRINKING WATER?

02:24:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M FINE WITH THAT AND I WILL SECOND IT.

02:24:04 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: LEGAL LEGISLATIVE USES THE TERM RECLAIMED

02:24:14 WATER.

02:24:14 >> ALL RIGHT.

02:24:16 RECLAIMED WATER?

02:24:18 BILL?




02:24:19 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

02:24:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RECLAIMED WATER IS OKAY?

02:24:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

02:24:23 BUT I THINK IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS IT HAS TO BE USED FOR

02:24:25 DRINKING WATER.

02:24:26 AM I NOT CORRECT?

02:24:27 FOR DRINKING, YEAH.

02:24:29 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IN OTHER WORDS, REFERENCE TO THE TYPE OF

02:24:36 WATER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU REFER TO IT AS RECLAIMED

02:24:39 WATER.

02:24:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KNOW THE LEGISLATIVE NUMBER THAT WE

02:24:44 COULD CALL IT?

02:24:48 OKAY, I -- HOW ABOUT IF WE CALL IT STATE LEGISLATION

02:24:55 CONVERTED RECLAIMED WATER DO DRINKING WATER AND --

02:25:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SECOND THE AMENDED MOTION.

02:25:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY DINGFELDER

02:25:05 FOR THE MAY 27th WORKSHOP?

02:25:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

02:25:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

02:25:11 THERE'S THREE AT 9:00 SO WE'LL SAY AT 10:00.

02:25:14 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT IT GO BEFORE THE

02:25:16 PRESENTATION OF PURE, BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW THE STATE

02:25:19 CONTEXT.

02:25:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE WILL KEEP IT AT 9:00 AND HAVE IT

02:25:22 AFTER THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTHS SO THAT WILL BE RIGHT




02:25:25 BEFORE THE PURE PROJECT.

02:25:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

02:25:29 >> SO FIRST ON THE AGENDA RIGHT AFTER POLICE OFFICER OF THE

02:25:31 MONTH.

02:25:33 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER -- BY CARLSON, SECOND FROM

02:25:38 DINGFELDER.

02:25:38 I'M SORRY.

02:25:39 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:25:39 ANY OPPOSED?

02:25:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I WILL SUPPORT THIS SIMPLY

02:25:46 BECAUSE I REALLY DISLIKE PREEMPTION FROM TALLAHASSEE TELLING

02:25:49 THE CITY WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.

02:25:51 BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE MILLIONS OF DOGS IN THE STATE

02:25:55 OF FLORIDA WHO WILL BE VERY UNHAPPY THEY CANNOT DRINK FROM

02:25:58 THE TOILET.

02:25:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DRINK GART AID.

02:26:03 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

02:26:04 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S IT.

02:26:05 THANK YOU.

02:26:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

02:26:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

02:26:09 I AM GOING TO BE MR. VIERA TODAY.

02:26:11 I HAVE A BUNCH OF MOTIONS TO MAKE TODAY.

02:26:13 [ LAUGHTER ]

02:26:13 GENTLEMEN, BACK ON APRIL 1st I MADE A MOTION REFERENCE




02:26:24 THE CLERK'S OFFICE, I AM LOOKING FOR A DATE ON THAT SO I

02:26:28 NEED TO PUT A DATE ON THAT AS OF MAY 6th RETURN BY

02:26:31 ADMINISTRATION REGARDING THE APRIL 1st MOTION ABOUT THE

02:26:34 CLERK'S OFFICE.

02:26:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:26:39 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:26:40 ALL RIGHT.

02:26:40 GO AHEAD, SIR.

02:26:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE NEXT MOTION I HAVE, I ATTENDED THE

02:26:48 AHAB BOARD FOR THE COUNTY, AND WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT

02:26:55 COMMUNITY, A LOT OF FOLKS STARTED USING THE WORD WORKFORCE,

02:27:02 WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND TO ME THAT WORD DOES NOT SYMBOLIZE

02:27:08 FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

02:27:09 YOU HAVE WHAT ARE CALLED ESSENTIAL WORKERS.

02:27:12 AND PEOPLE ARE MIXING THE TWO.

02:27:14 BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS OR CERTAIN

02:27:16 PROFESSIONS ARE MAKING. TO ME THOSE NOT WORKFORCE. TO ME A

02:27:19 WORKFORCE IS AN ACTUAL FOLKS THAT WORK AT THE WALMART,

02:27:22 McDONALD'S, BURGER KINGS.

02:27:24 SO WHAT I AM ASKING JUST LIKE I ASKED THE BOARD TO COME BACK

02:27:29 AND MAYBE CHANGING THAT TREND IN NAME SO CLARIFY WORKFORCE

02:27:33 FROM ESSENTIAL WORKERS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

02:27:35 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE HOUSING AND LEGAL

02:27:38 DEPARTMENT TO REFINE THE TERM CENTRAL WORKER AND WORKFORCE

02:27:41 WORK OAR.




02:27:42 I WOULD ALSO LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLAIN AFFORDABLE

02:27:45 HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AS IT REPRESENTS TO BOTH

02:27:48 ESSENTIAL WORKER AND WORKFORCE WORKER AND HAVE THAT BACK ON

02:27:51 6-24.

02:27:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE -- MR. SHELBY?

02:27:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.

02:27:58 JUNE 24th, IS THAT A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME?

02:28:02 DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY?

02:28:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT WOULD BE TWO MONTHS FOR THAT.

02:28:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

02:28:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.

02:28:12 YES, MS. ZELMAN, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?

02:28:15 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CAN YOU HEAR ME?

02:28:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.

02:28:19 GO AHEAD.

02:28:20 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.

02:28:21 I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION.

02:28:23 I APOLOGIZE.

02:28:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE

02:28:26 HOUSING AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO APPLY THE TERM AND

02:28:29 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ESSENTIAL WORKER AND WORKFORCE WORKER AND

02:28:35 ALSO THAT THE ADMINISTRATION BE REQUESTED TO EXPLAIN

02:28:35 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AS RELATES TO

02:28:36 BOTH ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND WORKFORCE WORKERS.

02:28:38 AND I WILL A COPY OF THE MOTION WITH THE EXACT VERBIAGE FOR




02:28:43 YOU.

02:28:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 24th.

02:28:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH IS A WORKSHOP DAY.

02:28:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:00.

02:28:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THE SAME TIME AS THE SIDEWALKS IF YOU

02:28:57 WANT TO MAKE IT THE NEXT ONE UP.

02:28:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, 10:30.

02:29:01 IS THAT ALL RIGHT?

02:29:01 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN ORLANDO VIERA TODAY.

02:29:07 [ LAUGHTER ]

02:29:07 WHO IS THE SECOND?

02:29:12 SECOND IS COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:29:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:29:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST AND FINAL ONE, SIR, AS NOW YOU HEAR A

02:29:21 LOT OF COMMUNITIES TALK ABOUT GENTRIFICATION AND TALKING

02:29:25 ABOUT BEING UPROOTED.

02:29:29 WE HAVE TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT.

02:29:30 AND TO BRING UP MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

02:29:33 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT

02:29:36 TO LOOK INTO AN ORDINANCE TO REDUCE THE DISPLACEMENT OF LOW

02:29:41 TO MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS AND LOOK INTO THE CHICAGO

02:29:44 ORDINANCE OR ANY OTHER CITIES AROUND THE NATION THAT HAVE

02:29:46 TAKEN STEPS TO REDUCE DISPLACEMENT OF RESIDENTS AND

02:29:49 ATTACHING AN ARTICLE TO THIS MOTION AND WOULD LIKE IT BACK

02:29:52 IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME FOR JUNE 24th.




02:29:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES

02:29:59 FOR JUNE 24th.

02:30:00 WE'LL PUT IT AT 11:00 OP ON THE WORKSHOP JUST SO EVERYTHING

02:30:05 IS IN ORDER.

02:30:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

02:30:08 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:30:09 ANY OPPOSED?

02:30:11 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

02:30:11 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:30:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION

02:30:19 TA/CPA 20-21, TA/CPA 21 -- A, CPA 21-03, TA/CPA 21-05,

02:30:33 TA/CPA 21-06, TA/CPA 21-01, TA/CPA 2104, TA/CPA 202nd

02:30:46 107, TA/CPA 2108 ON JUNE 4th, 2021 AT 5:01 P.M. AND

02:30:56 DIRECT LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH A

02:30:59 FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

02:31:02 >> SECOND.

02:31:04 >> WE HAVE A JUNE 3rd REGULAR MEETING.

02:31:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUNE 24th AT 5:01.

02:31:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.

02:31:13 ALL RIGHT.

02:31:13 PERFECT.

02:31:14 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:31:15 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

02:31:16 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.

02:31:19 ALL IN FAVOR?




02:31:19 ANY OPPOSED?

02:31:21 ALL RIGHT.

02:31:22 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

02:31:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.

02:31:26 I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH SOME LOVELY PEOPLE AT THE

02:31:28 BEACH PARK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND AMONG MANY THINGS

02:31:32 THAT THEY HAD DISCUSSED WITH ME AND TALKED WITH ME, THE

02:31:35 NUMBER ONE THING THAT THEY HAD ASKED ABOUT WAS THE CLOSURE

02:31:40 OF WARD STREET FROM KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO WEST CLEVELAND

02:31:45 STREET.

02:31:49 NOW, DURING ALL THIS DISCUSSION I FOUND OUT THAT THIS STREET

02:31:51 WAS CLOSED, OPENED, AND CLOSED YET AGAIN ALL BEFORE ANY OF

02:31:56 US WERE ON COUNCIL?

02:31:58 REGARDLESS.

02:32:00 SO MY MOTION -- SORRY, VIK BHIDE -- IS TO HAVE STAFF, MORE

02:32:05 PARTICULARLY MOBILITY, TO APPEAR REGARDING THE CLOSURE OF

02:32:09 SOUTHWARD STREET FROM WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO WEST

02:32:14 CLEVELAND STREET ON MAY 20th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

02:32:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.

02:32:21 I'LL SECOND IT.

02:32:24 INTERESTING HISTORY ON THAT CLOSURE.

02:32:26 HALF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED IT CLOSED, AND HALF WANTS IT

02:32:30 OPEN.

02:32:30 IF YOU LIVE CLOSE TO IT, YOU WANT IT CLOSED.

02:32:33 AND IF YOU LIVE FURTHER AWAY IN THE BEACH PARK THEY WANT IT




02:32:36 OPEN.

02:32:36 BUT ANYWAY, I'M DEFINITELY -- I HEAR YOU, JOE, AND I WILL

02:32:40 SECOND YOUR MOTION.

02:32:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, THERE WERE A FEW

02:32:44 PEOPLE THAT DURING THE DISCUSSION SAID THAT THEY WERE ALL

02:32:48 RIGHT WITH IT, BUT AGAIN DIALOGUE SOLVES EVERYTHING.

02:32:53 AND IF WE CAN GET THE SPECIFIC REASONS WHY, MAYBE WE CAN ALL

02:32:57 UNDERSTAND.

02:32:57 BUT AGAIN, ALL THIS WAS DONE BEFORE I BECAME PART OF

02:33:00 COUNCIL.

02:33:00 AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT BEFORE I HEAR ANY MORE

02:33:05 FROM THE BEACH PARK COMMUNITY.

02:33:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN --

02:33:10 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THE SAME THING THAT MR.

02:33:12 DINGFELDER SAID THAT I HAD AN EAR FULL A FEW MONTHS AGO,

02:33:15 THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS VACATED AND PRIVATELY

02:33:18 OWNED BUT IT WAS NOT CLOSED.

02:33:20 AND THERE'S A LARGE FACTION OF PEOPLE THAT WANT IT CLOSED.

02:33:24 SO AS LONG AS THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING TO BE OPEN TO BOTH

02:33:28 SIDES, THEN I WOULD VOTE FOR IT.

02:33:31 IF NOT --

02:33:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM JUST LOOKING TO HEAR FROM STAFF.

02:33:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

02:33:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S ALL I WANT RATE NOW.

02:33:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WITH THE SECOND.




02:33:44 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:33:45 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

02:33:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JOE GRECO.

02:33:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JOE GRECO.

02:33:52 BIRTHDAYS.

02:33:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:33:56 I WANTED TO JUST SAY ABOUT THIS COUNCIL THAT WE JUST WENT

02:33:59 OVER THIS PLAN AMENDMENT ISSUE AND THE APPLICATION.

02:34:04 I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND EVERYBODY FOR EVERYBODY'S

02:34:08 THOUGHTFUL STATEMENTS AND WHATNOT, AND IT'S AN ISSUE THAT

02:34:12 IGNITES A LOT OF PASSION, AND I THINK WE DID IT, THE

02:34:16 DIALOGUE, IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I

02:34:19 THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

02:34:21 I HAVE GOT THREE IN TYPICAL LUIS VIERA FASHION MOTIONS, IF I

02:34:25 MAY.

02:34:26 FIRST OFF, THE URBAN LEAGUE OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS JUST

02:34:30 COME INTO FRUITION, LED BY STANLEY GRAY AND NICHOLAS GLOVER.

02:34:35 AND THEY HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL PERSPECTIVE ROLE TO PLAY IN

02:34:39 TAMPA.

02:34:39 AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM COME, ON JUNE 17th OF 2021

02:34:48 FOR LIKE FIVE, TEN MINUTES, WHATEVER, JUST TO COME TALK

02:34:52 ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WAYS

02:34:55 THAT THE CITY CAN ASSIST THEM IN THEIR WONDERFUL MISSION.

02:34:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE OR TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION?

02:35:02 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.




02:35:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL COULD HAVE BEEN THAT.

02:35:04 DO YOU WANT TEN MINUTES?

02:35:05 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.

02:35:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.

02:35:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 17th UNDER CEREMONIAL

02:35:11 ACTIVITIES.

02:35:12 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:35:12 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:35:13 ANY OPPOSED?

02:35:15 YES, SIR?

02:35:16 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I DO THIS EVERY YEAR.

02:35:18 I ALWAYS LIKE TO INVITE A GOLD STAR PARENTS TO COME.

02:35:21 WE HAVE MEMORIAL DAY COMING UP.

02:35:22 IF I MAY, I THINK IT IS MAY 27th IS OUR COUNCIL MEETING

02:35:27 BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY.

02:35:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 27th IS A WORKSHOP.

02:35:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT OKAY TO HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES

02:35:35 BEFORE?

02:35:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OR MAY 20th IS A REGULAR MEETING.

02:35:39 WHICHEVER.

02:35:40 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN WE DO MAY 27th?

02:35:43 IS IT OKAY PROCEDURALLY TO HAVE SOMEBODY SPEAK ON MAY 27?

02:35:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A WORKSHOP.

02:35:51 WHY NOT?

02:35:51 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WILL DISCUSS IT WITH THE FAMILIES AND




02:35:55 CRAIG ROSE WAS HERE BEFORE.

02:35:57 BUT THIS YEAR WE MAY GET OUR FRIEND CRAIG ROSE AGAIN, GOD

02:36:01 BLESS HIM.

02:36:02 BUT IF I MAY MAKE A MOTION.

02:36:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A LENGTH OF TIME ATTACHED TO

02:36:08 THAT?

02:36:08 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN JUST TEN MINUTES.

02:36:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CRAIG ROSE IS A GREAT GUY.

02:36:12 COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH THE MOTION.

02:36:14 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:36:15 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:36:16 ANY OPPOSED?

02:36:17 YES, SIR?

02:36:18 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN JUST LASTLY, YOU MAY HAVE READ CT

02:36:23 BOWEN ON THE DISCUSSION IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON THE NEW

02:36:25 TAMPA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

02:36:27 IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR ABOUT 17

02:36:29 YEARS, WHICH WAS MOSTLY A COUNTY INITIATIVE WITH REGARDS TO

02:36:33 FUNDING.

02:36:33 WE DID REZONING ON IT.

02:36:36 IN FACT, CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MAY

02:36:39 REMEMBER THIS, IN 2017, A COUPLE WEEKS AFTER I GOT INTO

02:36:43 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, ON THE HUNTERS LAKE PROJECT AND WHATNOT.

02:36:46 BUT NOW THERE IS BECOMING A DAUGHTER YOU MAY HAVE READ ABOUT

02:36:50 IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" ON WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY IS




02:36:53 GOING TO FUND IT.

02:36:54 IT'S A LARGE PROJECT THAT MEANS A LOT TO THE PEOPLE OF NEW

02:36:58 TAMPA.

02:36:58 THEN SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE DISCUSSION THAT I THINK

02:37:00 IS SO PIVOTAL IS WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL HELP

02:37:03 OUT WITH A REASONABLE MAINTENANCE COST WHICH ARE BELIEVED TO

02:37:06 BE 2, 300,000 A YEAR, WHETHER WE WILL FUND A PORTION OF

02:37:11 THAT.

02:37:14 AND THERE WAS A BELIEF, I GUESS IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION

02:37:18 THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAD SAID NO TO ASSISTING WITH IT, AND

02:37:22 THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PRESENT REALITY, WHICH IS THE

02:37:26 PRIOR ADMINISTRATION ACCORDING TO WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, THE

02:37:29 BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION, SAID NO.

02:37:30 THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT, ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION

02:37:33 THAT I HAVE PRESENTED TO ME, BEEN PRESENTED WITH A REQUEST.

02:37:36 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO

02:37:40 REQUEST THAT THE CASTOR ADMINISTRATION ENGAGE WITH THE

02:37:44 COUNTY OUT FOR MAINTENANCE ASSISTANCE OF ONE KIND OR

02:37:51 ANOTHER, NOT PUTTING A DOLLAR, REASONABLE MAINTENANCE

02:37:54 ASSISTANCE FOR THE NEW TAMPA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER OUT OF

02:37:57 THE -- AND I'M SORRY, I WROTE DOWN HERE THROUGH THE SOCIAL

02:38:01 ACTION AND ARTS FUND PROCESS, AND ANY PROCESS THAT MAY BE

02:38:05 AVAILABLE TO GET THIS -- AGAIN, THIS IS NOT PERSPECTIVE, BIG

02:38:09 BUDGET ALLOCATION.

02:38:11 YOU ARE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT 60, $75,000 FOR THE CASTOR




02:38:16 ADMINISTRATION TO ENGAGE WITH THEM ON THAT.

02:38:18 IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUBSIDIZE ARTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF

02:38:22 TAMPA AND I THINK THIS GOES A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.

02:38:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS A MOTION.

02:38:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.

02:38:28 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:38:30 ANY OPPOSED?

02:38:33 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

02:38:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.

02:38:37 NOTHING TODAY.

02:38:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND JUST ON THE BIRTHDAY THING, HAPPY

02:38:44 62ND BIRTHDAY TO MY FATHER YESTERDAY.

02:38:47 62.

02:38:48 WOW.

02:38:48 JUST A KID.

02:38:49 JUST A KID.

02:38:54 I'M ONLY 22 SO, YOU KNOW.

02:38:57 YES, SIR?

02:38:57 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY, IF I MAY.

02:39:00 TOMORROW, I THINK AT 1:45, BECAUSE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS

02:39:04 EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN COMING, WE WERE GOING TO BE

02:39:07 HONORING, I THINK OUT HERE AT CITY HALL, LUIS CAPIZANO, FOR

02:39:16 THEIR SERVICE, INCLUDING UNITED STATES ARMY, NAVY, AND IT'S

02:39:19 THE 60th ANNIVERSARY OF THE BAY OF PIGS INVASION AND

02:39:23 WHATNOT.




02:39:23 I KNOW SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN GOING.

02:39:26 IF ANYONE DOES, PLEASE INQUIRE.

02:39:29 THANK YOU.

02:39:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, ANY NEW BUSINESS?

02:39:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR, JUST A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND

02:39:34 FILE.

02:39:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?

02:39:36 ANYBODY?

02:39:39 COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A MOTION.

02:39:41 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

02:39:42 ALL IN FAVOR?

02:39:43 AYE.

02:39:44 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

02:39:50 [ MEETING ADJOURNED ]

02:39:57

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