TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 1, 2021
9:00 A.M.
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09:02:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:02:23 I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
09:02:24 ORDER.
09:02:30 I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR TODAY'S INVOCATION.
09:02:32 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:02:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:02:38 TODAY'S INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR GABRIEL
09:02:39 MORGAN.
09:02:43 HE IS THE PASTOR OF THE SAINT PAUL LUTHERAN CHURCH ON
09:02:47 CENTRAL AVENUE HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND OF FAITH
09:02:49 LUTHERAN ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
09:02:55 HE IS A GRADUATE OF UNION THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN NEW
09:02:58 YORK CITY RECEIVING THE MASTERS OF DIVINITY DEGREE
09:03:05 THERE AND HOLDS A DOCTORATE OF PHILOSOPHY FROM THE
09:03:07 SEMINARY IN PHILADELPHIA.
09:03:09 HE IS ORIGINALLY FROM TAMPA.
09:03:12 HE IS ALSO AN ALUM OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA
09:03:17 -- GO BULLS -- WITH A BACHELOR'S IN PHILOSOPHY.
09:03:21 HE AND HIS WIFE LIVE IN SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:03:23 PASTOR, ARE YOU WITH US?
09:03:24 >> YES, I AM.
09:03:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE CAN ALL PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN
09:03:28 STANDING.
09:03:33 GO AHEAD, PASTOR.
09:03:33 >> THANK YOU.
09:03:34 LET US PRAY.
09:03:38 MOST HOLY GOD, SEND YOUR SPIRIT OF WISDOM WHICH IS
09:03:41 KNOWN TO THE PEOPLES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND
09:03:43 THROUGHOUT HISTORY.
09:03:45 SPIRIT TO GUIDE THE DELIBERATIONS OF THIS BODY IN
09:03:48 MATTERS BOTH GREAT AND SMALL.
09:03:54 A SPIRIT WHICH SOWS WITHIN US LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER.
09:03:58 DESIRE TO SERVE EACH OTHER AS CHRIST WASHED THE FEET OF
09:04:00 HIS OWN STUDENTS.
09:04:03 AND A READINESS TO YIELD TO THE NEEDS OF OTHERS AND NOT
09:04:06 INSIST ON OUR OWN WAY.
09:04:10 SEND THAT SPIRIT OF WISDOM NOW TO GUIDE EVERYONE HERE
09:04:13 AS THEY SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OF
09:04:17 THE CITY OF TAMPA, THOSE WHO VISIT IN OUR AREA FOR
09:04:21 TOURISM OR FOR VISITING WITH FAMILY DURING THIS HOLIDAY
09:04:26 SEASON, AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO MAY PASS THROUGH.
09:04:28 IT IS IN THE NAME OF THE HOLY ONE THAT WE PRAY.
09:04:30 AMEN.
09:04:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.
09:04:45 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PASTOR.
09:04:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT A GREAT MOUSTACHE.
09:04:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ISN'T IT?
09:04:53 >> THANK YOU.
09:04:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:04:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:04:59 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:05:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:05:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:05:08 >>CLERK: MIRANDA AND VIERA.
09:05:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:12 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:05:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD WITH THE THING.
09:05:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU.
09:05:20 GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY
09:05:21 COUNCIL.
09:05:23 MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:05:25 THURSDAY, APRIL 1, 2021.
09:05:27 WE AT OLD CITY HALL IN TAMPA.
09:05:30 AND THIS IS DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY.
09:05:34 THIS MEETING IS BEING CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE, IN-PERSON
09:05:37 QUORUM OF THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL
09:05:40 CHAMBERS; HOWEVER, IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19
09:05:42 RESTRICTIONS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO
09:05:46 PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING
09:05:49 REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES AS
09:05:51 COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
09:05:53 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
09:05:56 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURES ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION
09:06:03 2020-225 AND AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020-490 AND
09:06:06 2021-241.
09:06:09 THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH,
09:06:12 LISTEN AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM 640 AND
09:06:15 FRONTIER CHANNEL 14 AND LIVE ON THE INTERNET AT
09:06:20 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:06:25 THERE HAVE BEEN WAYS FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMUNICATE.
09:06:30 ALTERNATIVE METHODS TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL
09:06:32 AMONG THEM TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT
09:06:39 WHICH REQUIRES PREREGISTRATION AND THAT IS TO -- TO
09:06:42 FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY
09:06:48 COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL, ONE WORD.
09:06:51 ALSO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A
09:06:55 COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE HAVE THE OPTION OF
09:06:58 PARTICIPATING CMT WHICH IS MADE AVAILABLE BY THE CITY
09:07:01 OF TAMPA DURING THIS MEETING AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST
09:07:04 KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
09:07:06 PLEASE NOTE THAT THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
09:07:09 IN THE BUILDING ARE REQUIRED.
09:07:12 NOW COUNCIL, WITH REGARD TO THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS
09:07:16 THAT ARE BEING HELD TODAY, THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE
09:07:20 AVAILABLE FOR PARTICIPATING ALSO THROUGH THE CITY'S --
09:07:23 CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE SITE.
09:07:28 COUNCIL, THE -- THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN --
09:07:31 THE WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO
09:07:35 COUNCIL ARE MADE AVAILABLE AND AS WELL THOSE THAT HAVE
09:07:37 BEEN DISTRIBUTED TIMELY TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND MADE
09:07:41 PART OF THE PERMANENT MEETING OF QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS
09:07:44 ARE ALSO AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION THROUGH THE
09:07:45 WEB PAGE.
09:07:51 AND COUNCIL, PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED TIMELY BY MAIL,
09:07:56 E-MAIL, WEB OR VIA CMT WILL BE AFFORDED EQUAL
09:07:58 CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE IN
09:07:59 PERSON.
09:08:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:08:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:08:04 ALL RIGHTY.
09:08:04 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:08:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH REGARD TO THE AGENDA, I
09:08:12 APOLOGIZE IF THIS WAS LATE-BREAKING NEWS YESTERDAY --
09:08:13 YESTERDAY LATE AFTERNOON.
09:08:20 ITEM 45, WHICH IS THE -- THE REVISED AUDIT ORDINANCE.
09:08:25 I PROVIDED MISS GRIMES WITH SOME OF MY WRITTEN COMMENTS
09:08:29 AND SUGGESTIONS LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, AND I DON'T
09:08:32 THINK SHE HAS ANY OBJECTION WITH WE CONTINUE THIS FOR
09:08:36 ONE MORE MONTH TO BANG OUT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
09:08:41 SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION ON THE -- ON THE AGENDA.
09:08:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS FOR
09:08:46 MAY 6 AND PUT UNDER STAFF REPORT, CORRECT?
09:08:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
09:08:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
09:08:53 DINGFELDER AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:08:55 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:08:57 OPPOSED?
09:09:00 YES, SIR?
09:09:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:03 I WASN'T HERE FROM THE BEGINNING.
09:09:04 I WAS SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY.
09:09:08 I WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T THINK WE MENTIONED CAPTAIN
09:09:11 MICHAEL FLYNN WHO PASSED ON FROM TAMPA POLICE
09:09:11 DEPARTMENT.
09:09:15 OF COURSE HIS WIFE -- JUST GOOD PEOPLE.
09:09:19 AND CAPTAIN FLYNN PASSED ON ABOUT -- PROBABLY TWO WEEKS
09:09:21 OR SO AGO.
09:09:25 BUT I JUST -- I JUST INFORMALLY WANTED TO SEND OUT
09:09:28 COUNCIL'S CONDOLENCES TO THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT FAMILY
09:09:33 AND TO THE FAMILY AND LOVED ONES OF CAPTAIN FLYNN.
09:09:37 HE WAS A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT AND A GREAT LAW
09:09:41 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND JUST OUR CONDOLENCES, THAT'S
09:09:41 ALL.
09:09:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:45 AND I HAVE A QUESTION HERE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON
09:09:48 ITEM NUMBER 44 TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
09:09:51 WHO HERE IS FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO TALK ABOUT
09:09:52 ITEM 44?
09:09:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:09:57 JUST TO LOOK AT -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS HERE, BUT
09:10:00 JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL THERE WAS A MEMORANDUM FROM
09:10:05 CAROLE POST REQUESTING CONTINUANCE TO MAY 27.
09:10:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE IT HERE.
09:10:08 MAY 27.
09:10:10 CAN I HAVE A MOTION?
09:10:12 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:10:14 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:10:15 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:10:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE MORE ITEM IF I CAN.
09:10:21 WITH REGARD TO THE STAFF REPORTS FOR THE AFTERNOON,
09:10:24 SOME OF THEM ARE ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO COUNCIL'S
09:10:28 RULES -- COUNCIL'S MOTION REGARDING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
09:10:31 ARE THERE ANY RECEIVED OR FILED MEMORANDUM THAT YOU
09:10:33 HAVE RECEIVED ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WON'T REQUIRE
09:10:36 STAFF SO THEY CAN BE EXCUSED FOR THE DAY?
09:10:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE ITEM 41, 42.
09:10:44 THOSE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ITEMS.
09:10:50 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM -- FROM BRAD BAIRD ON ITEM 42.
09:10:56 DO YOU NEED HIM -- ANYBODY NEED HIM ON THE LINE?
09:11:02 HEARING NONE, THEN WE WON'T WORRY ABOUT 42, AND WE CAN
09:11:06 RECEIVE AND FILE THAT -- THAT MEMO.
09:11:09 WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP WITH A WRITTEN REPORT ON 43.
09:11:15 DO WE NEED CHIEF TRIPP ON LINE FOR THAT?
09:11:18 COUNCILMAN VIERA?
09:11:19 WE WILL LEAVE HER THERE.
09:11:21 ITEM 46.
09:11:24 AND ITEM 47, WE WILL GET TO THOSE AT THAT TIME.
09:11:29 AND FOR ITEM 41, REGARDING THESE $11 MILLION IN FEDERAL
09:11:34 COVID FUNDS.
09:11:37 SO THERE IS -- THERE IS NO MEMO ON THAT.
09:11:42 SO WE WILL JUST LEAVE IT AS IT IS.
09:11:45 IF THERE IS NOT ANYTHING ELSE, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO
09:11:49 APPROVE THE ADDENDUM AND THE AGENDA?
09:11:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.
09:11:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:11:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
09:11:54 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:11:55 ALL RIGHT.
09:12:00 ITEM NUMBER ONE IS MY ITEM SO I WILL PASS THE GAVEL
09:12:05 OVER TO CHAIR PRO-TEM CITRO.
09:12:07 THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE VIRTUALLY.
09:12:14 I DO HAVE AN ACTUAL COMMENDATION PLAQUE BUT -- THERE WE
09:12:15 GO.
09:12:20 MR. VIK BHIDE TO ACCEPT THIS COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF
09:12:21 MR. PETE BRETT.
09:12:23 I AM JUST GOING TO READ THIS QUICKLY.
09:12:28 IN HONOR OF MR. PETE BRETT, CITY OF TAMPA PRESENTS THIS
09:12:30 COMMENDATION FOR OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS, DISTINCTIVE
09:12:35 CONTRIBUTIONS AND PROVIDE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO COMPLEX
09:12:37 TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:12:40 CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT AFTER NINE YEARS OF
09:12:42 DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS
09:12:44 RESIDENTS.
09:12:47 YOUR EXPERIENCE, LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE RESULTED IN
09:12:51 THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF MANY KEY CITY MUNICIPAL
09:12:51 PROJECTS.
09:12:54 MAYOR BRIGHT LIGHT, STREET NIGHT PROGRAM,
09:12:57 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT
09:13:00 SYSTEM, RESTRUCTURING THE BRIDGE OPERATIONS, PROGRAMS,
09:13:05 THE CITY'S FIRST BRIDGE MAINTENANCE, $500,000 CONTRACT,
09:13:09 SEAWALL STABILIZATION PROJECT, VARIOUS STORMWATER AND
09:13:12 TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, MANAGEMENT OF MULTIBILLION
09:13:15 DOLLAR BUDGETS, DECENTRALIZATION OF THE FLEET DIVISION,
09:13:18 PLANNING THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT DIVISION, YARD
09:13:24 EXPANSION, MASTERFULLY IMPLEMENTING THE HANNA STREET
09:13:29 AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS.
09:13:31 AND SERVING IN YOUR MOST RECENT LEADERSHIP AS DIRECTOR
09:13:35 OF THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT WAS
09:13:38 ALSO KEY TO THE CITY OF TAMPA'S FORWARD PROGRESS.
09:13:42 IT IS WITH PLEASURE THAT WE THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
09:13:45 PRESENT WITH YOU THIS WELL-EARNED COMMENDATION ON THE
09:13:48 FIRST DAY OF APRIL 2021 AND WISH YOU HEALTH AND
09:13:51 HAPPINESS IN YOUR FORTHCOMING RETIREMENT.
09:13:54 ON BEHALF OF MR. PETE BRETT, VIK BHIDE TO ACCEPT THIS
09:13:54 COMMENDATION.
09:13:59 ANYTHING FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
09:14:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
09:14:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:14:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETE, ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.
09:14:08 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
09:14:11 TAMPA HAS BEEN MOVING SO RAPIDLY IN ITS GROWTH, AND I
09:14:13 WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF MAKING SURE
09:14:15 THAT WE ARE SAFE IN THIS CITY.
09:14:18 THANK YOU, PETE, FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE THE LAST NINE
09:14:19 YEARS.
09:14:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:14:23 MR. VIK BHIDE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
09:14:26 >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR, VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY
09:14:28 DEPARTMENT.
09:14:31 THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
09:14:34 WHILE PETE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, I KNOW THAT HE IS
09:14:37 VERY HONORED TO RECEIVE THIS RECOGNITION AND
09:14:39 COMMENDATION.
09:14:43 PETE IS ALWAYS CHAMPIONED EFFICIENCY AND PROCESS.
09:14:48 AND HE BROUGHT BETTER EFFICIENCY TO EVERYTHING THAT WE
09:14:52 DID AND, YOU KNOW, YOU READ OUT THE LONG LIST OF HIS
09:14:54 ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
09:14:57 I WILL JUST ADD BY SAYING THAT HE HAS A SIGNIFICANT
09:15:01 IMPACT OF THE PEOPLE HE WORKED WITH, BUT ALSO THE
09:15:06 COMMUNITY, AND HE HAS PASSED ON THE BATON TO THE NEXT
09:15:10 GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP WITH MISS FELINA.
09:15:13 AND WE ALL WISH PETE ALL THE BEST.
09:15:14 THANK YOU.
09:15:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:15:17 ALL RIGHTY, THAT CONCLUDES ITEM NUMBER ONE.
09:15:20 ITEM NUMBER TWO IS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR A
09:15:22 PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION.
09:15:24 I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS GOING DOWN TO THE
09:15:24 SECOND FLOOR.
09:15:27 SO IF WE COULD GO TO THE KIOSK.
09:15:33 HE SHOULD BE THERE.
09:15:34 ALL RIGHT.
09:15:35 ONE PERSON.
09:15:35 THERE HE IS.
09:15:36 GO AHEAD.
09:15:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:15:44 WE ARE MUTED ON -- AT THE KIOSK.
09:15:46 IF WE CAN UNMUTE.
09:15:47 THERE WE ARE.
09:15:48 GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:15:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
09:15:52 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:15:54 MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING WITH A YOUNG LADY
09:15:59 WHO HAS DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB FOR THE CITY FOR 44 YEARS.
09:16:02 YOU KNOW NUMBER 44 IS ALSO VERY FAMOUS NUMBER THAT WAS
09:16:07 USED BY ONE OF THE NICEST GUYS TO EVER PICK UP A
09:16:08 BASEBALL BAT, GLOVE, AND A BALL.
09:16:14 AND HE BROKE THE HOME RUN RECORD, NAME, HANK AARON.
09:16:16 AND SHE BROKE EVERY RECORD THAT I CAN THINK OF BECAUSE
09:16:19 SHE IS THE LONGEST SERVING CITY EMPLOYEE EVER IN THE
09:16:21 ARCHIVES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE RECORDS
09:16:23 DEPARTMENT DIVISION.
09:16:26 SHE IS THE LONGEST SERVING MEMBER OF THAT DEPARTMENT.
09:16:29 SO SHE IS HISTORIC FOR HERSELF AND WHAT SHE HAS DONE
09:16:30 WITH THAT NUMBER 44.
09:16:34 NOT TO MENTION THAT FOR OVER FOUR DECADES, SHE HAS
09:16:38 REPRESENTED ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS, ALL THE CITIZENS OF
09:16:42 THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND SHE DID THAT UNDER WHAT,
09:16:43 SEVEN MAYORS?
09:16:46 YOU DESERVE SEVEN MEDALS JUST FOR THAT.
09:16:46 [LAUGHTER]
09:16:50 AND I TELL YOU, IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME AND HONOR FOR THE
09:16:55 COUNCIL TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU, JUDY LARRY-POOLE.
09:16:59 IT IS A PLEASURE TO SEE SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THE JOB
09:17:03 AND WHO IS TENURE AND CHANGED WITH SOCIETY AS THE
09:17:06 INVENTIONS WERE INVENTED APPROXIMATELY.
09:17:08 LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
09:17:10 EVERYTHING THAT STARTED MICROFILMED.
09:17:11 WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT?
09:17:15 >> THEY GOT RID OF THE MICROFILM.
09:17:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT THEY DIDN'T GET RID OF YOU.
09:17:18 THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
09:17:22 OUR OPTIMISM AND WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE AND LEARN
09:17:25 TECHNOLOGY WAS MADE YOU PART OF THAT UNDERSTANDING
09:17:29 INDIVIDUAL BUT BESIDE THAT, WHAT IS INSIDE YOUR HEART
09:17:31 AND WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE AND HELP PEOPLE.
09:17:33 AND THAT IS WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
09:17:35 JUST MORE THAN THIS COMMENDATION FROM THE COUNCIL, IT
09:17:38 IS THE MANNERISM OF WHICH YOU TOOK THOSE 44 YEARS AND
09:17:39 DID SOMETHING WITH THEM.
09:17:42 YOU HELPED THE CITY CHANGE.
09:17:45 YOU HELPED THE PEOPLE WITH A POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND YOU
09:17:47 HAD TREMENDOUS ASSISTANCE IN HELPING OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE
09:17:49 COME UP THROUGHOUT RANKS.
09:17:52 SO IT IS JUST MORE THAN A COMMENDATION FROM US.
09:17:55 BUT FROM THE HEART OF EACH COUNCILMEMBER.
09:17:57 THE HEART OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR WHAT
09:17:58 YOU HAVE DONE FOR 44 YEARS.
09:17:59 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:18:00 WE LOVE YOU.
09:18:02 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:18:02 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:18:04 IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE.
09:18:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GO ON.
09:18:08 THE MIC IS YOURS.
09:18:11 >> IT WAS HARD, BUT I GOT THROUGH IT.
09:18:15 AND CHANGING OVER FROM ONE THING TO THE OTHER, YOU
09:18:17 DON'T KNOW HOW HARD THAT WAS.
09:18:20 AND THEN TO HAVE CHILDREN AND STILL CONTINUE TO WORK AS
09:18:21 I DID.
09:18:27 BUT I JUST LOVE THE COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR SO MUCH.
09:18:30 THAT EVEN WHEN I WAS SICK, I STILL WANTED TO COME TO
09:18:30 WORK.
09:18:36 AND THEY ALLOWED ME TO COME IN, BRING MY KID.
09:18:39 SO I CAN'T SAY NOTHING FOR THE CITY EXCEPT I LOVE THE
09:18:42 CITY, AND I WILL TELL EVERYBODY THAT I WORKED FOR GOOD
09:18:43 PEOPLE.
09:18:47 I MEAN, THEY WERE VERY UNDERSTANDABLE FOR ME.
09:18:51 AND I TRY TO BRING IN SOME MORE, BUT -- THEY ARE NOT
09:18:52 LIKE ME.
09:18:53 [LAUGHTER]
09:18:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU CAN BE HERE FOR SEVEN
09:18:57 MAYORS.
09:19:01 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COUNCILMEMBERS, 50, 60, OR 70,
09:19:04 AND COME OUT HERE AND SAY THE THINGS AND DONE THE WORK
09:19:04 THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
09:19:09 I REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD TO DO -- BY MENU GRAPH.
09:19:12 AND NOW THINGS ARE DONE WITH COMPUTER AND WE ARE NOT
09:19:13 DOING IT FAST ENOUGH.
09:19:16 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE ASSET
09:19:19 YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR 44 YEARS.
09:19:22 >> ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE MY BOSSES LOOK GOOD.
09:19:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:19:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, CITRO, VIERA,
09:19:30 AND THEN DINGFELDER.
09:19:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN TELL THAT SHE LOVES HER JOB.
09:19:36 WHEN SHE IS SICK, SHE STILL WANTS TO COME TO WORK.
09:19:36 >> THAT IS RIGHT.
09:19:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A GREAT FEELING WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY
09:19:41 LOVE THEIR JOB AND THE WORK THEY ARE DOING.
09:19:43 I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE.
09:19:45 A LOT OF CITIZENS KNOW IN OUR CHARTER THAT THE CLERK'S
09:19:50 OFFICE IS -- IS A CHART -- SEGMENT IN THE CHART WORKS
09:19:52 WITH TWO BODIES.
09:19:53 THE ADMINISTRATION AND THIS COUNCIL.
09:19:57 AND PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT THIS COUNCIL
09:20:00 APPRECIATES THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE WORK YOU HAVE
09:20:04 DONE AND GO THROUGH THAT MANY MAYORS AND IT PRIVILEGE
09:20:10 TO SAY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
09:20:13 >> I WILL BE RETIRED AFTER A WHILE.
09:20:15 I AM STILL WORKING.
09:20:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JUDY, I OFTEN SAY THAT WE ARE
09:20:21 FAMILY.
09:20:24 NO MATTER WHETHER YOU WORK FOR ONE DEPARTMENT.
09:20:27 NO MATTER IF YOU ARE THE MAYOR.
09:20:29 THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THIS FAMILY.
09:20:31 AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF THIS FAMILY.
09:20:35 >> YES, I WILL.
09:20:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU WERE
09:20:37 THE FUEL THAT DROVE US.
09:20:42 WHAT I MEAN, YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOUR KNOWLEDGE WAS WHAT
09:20:45 KEPT THIS MOTOR, THIS CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
09:20:49 AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR JOB SO WELL.
09:20:54 PLEASE, COME BACK AND SEE US AS OFTEN AS YOU CAN.
09:20:55 >> I WILL.
09:20:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:21:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN
09:21:01 DINGFELDER.
09:21:05 >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR OVER FOUR
09:21:08 DECADES OF WORK HERE.
09:21:09 SO SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
09:21:12 I AM GLAD THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS THERE WITH YOU WHO
09:21:15 HAS BEEN PART OF THIS CITY GOVERNMENT WHILE YOU HAVE
09:21:16 BEEN HERE.
09:21:16 SUCH A GREAT THING.
09:21:19 WHEN YOU WORK SOMEWHERE, PEOPLE BECOME FAMILY.
09:21:20 PEOPLE BECOME FAMILY.
09:21:24 I REMEMBER THERE WAS A LAW FIRM I WAS AT FOR JUST TEN
09:21:28 YEARS, A QUARTER OF HOW YOU HAVE BEEN HERE.
09:21:31 AND SATURDAY I AM GOING OUT WITH SOME OF MY EX-STAFFERS
09:21:32 JUST BECAUSE WE ARE FAMILY.
09:21:35 YOU WORK SOMEWHERE FOR A WHILE, YOU BECOME FAMILY
09:21:37 BECAUSE YOU GO THROUGH THINGS WHILE YOU ARE AT WORK.
09:21:39 YOU GO THROUGH A MARRIAGE.
09:21:41 MAYBE, GOD WILLING, A DIVORCE.
09:21:44 BUT YOU GO THROUGH HAVING KIDS, GRANDKIDS.
09:21:47 YOU GO THROUGH DIFFERENT STAGES IN YOUR LIFE.
09:21:51 IMAGINE YOU AT 25 VERSUS 45 VERSUS 55.
09:21:54 YOU GO THROUGH DIFFERENT STAGES IN YOUR LIFE AND ALL
09:21:56 THOSE STAGES YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH HERE IN THE CITY OF
09:21:59 TAMPA AND WE HAVE A GREAT WORK FORCE HERE IN THE CITY
09:22:02 OF TAMPA AND I AM GLAD YOU HAVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
09:22:06 BECAUSE NOBODY IS MORE PROTECTIVE OF OUR WORK FORCE IN
09:22:08 THE CITY OF TAMPA THAN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BECAUSE HE
09:22:11 KNOWS HOW THINGS WORK AND HE KNOWS PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE
09:22:12 IT WORK.
09:22:14 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND GOD BLESS YOU.
09:22:15 >> THANK YOU.
09:22:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:22:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MA'AM, WE ARE SO APPRECIATIVE OF
09:22:25 YOU AND -- AND FOLKS LIKE YOU IN THE CITY WHO PUT IN
09:22:29 THEIR -- THEIR -- REALLY THEIR WHOLE CAREER TO HELP AND
09:22:30 SUPPORT.
09:22:35 I WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR CLERK, SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
09:22:45 BEHIND YOU AND JENNIFER DEETS AND COUNCIL INDICATED YOU
09:22:45 ARE A TEAM.
09:22:47 A GREAT PART OF THAT TEAM.
09:22:50 I REMEMBER YEARS AGO I WAS WORKING WITH THE STATE OF
09:22:54 FLORIDA, AND WE WERE ON MICROFICHE.
09:23:00 I DON'T KNOW IF MICROFICHE IS BEFORE MICROFILM OR WHAT.
09:23:06 BUT AFTER A WHILE WE FEEL A BIT DINOSAURISH.
09:23:10 WE WISH YOU BEST OF WILL YOU BE OF ALL YOUR FUTURE
09:23:12 ENDEAVORS.
09:23:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:23:17 >>BILL CARLSON: GLAD TO HEAR YOUR INSPIRATIONAL WORDS
09:23:20 AND GLAD TO HEAR YOU ARE NOT QUITE READY TO RETIRE.
09:23:23 WHEN YOU DOUBLE THIS 88 YEARS, I HOPE THAT COUNCILMAN
09:23:26 MIRANDA WILL GIVE YOU ARE ANOTHER COMMENDATION.
09:23:27 [LAUGHTER]
09:23:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL BE 160 BY THEN.
09:23:33 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM SURE YOU WILL BE AROUND TOO.
09:23:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:23:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:23:36 ALL RIGHT.
09:23:42 THAT CONCLUDES THE COMMENDATIONS AND GO TO PUBLIC
09:23:43 COMMENT.
09:23:46 EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES.
09:23:51 WE WILL SANITIZE THE LECTERN FOR SAFETY, AND WE WILL
09:24:22 BEGIN WITH IN-PERSON AFTER THIS FOR JUST A MOMENT.
09:24:24 >>> BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:24:28 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, AND WE WILL SANITIZE AFTER EACH
09:24:29 SPEAKER.
09:24:34 >> KALI DENAULT, THE PRESIDENT OF THE PORT TAMPA CIVIC
09:24:35 ASSOCIATION.
09:24:38 I COME HERE VERY ENCOURAGED WITH A MEETING THAT MYSELF
09:24:42 AND OTHER LEADERS HAD WITH CITY STAFF.
09:24:44 DURING THAT MEETING, WE DISCUSSED OF NEIGHBORHOOD
09:24:46 CHALLENGES AND HEARD OF CITY'S PLANS.
09:24:49 WE DISCUSSED NEXT STEPS OF MOVING FORWARD.
09:24:52 I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO DELAY ANY DECISION ON THE
09:24:56 ORDINANCE IN ITEM 46 FOR SIX MONTHS TO GIVE THIS PLAN A
09:24:56 CHANCE.
09:24:59 THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE TIME AND DEDICATION
09:25:01 YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THIS MATTER.
09:25:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:25:21 ALL RIGHT.
09:25:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
09:25:24 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:25:29 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:25:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, GO AHEAD.
09:25:38 >> GOOD MORNING, -- GARCIA, A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER.
09:25:42 I OWN A MINORITY-OWNED ARCHITECTURAL COMPANY, AND I'M
09:25:45 HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 46 ON YOUR AGENDA.
09:25:49 THIS IS A TROUBLESOME ITEM FOR ME AND FOR US AND SOME
09:25:53 OF THE -- SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES.
09:25:59 I THINK THAT A BROAD PAINT STROKE IS BEING PAINTED OVER
09:26:05 THIS ISSUE WITHOUT REALLY THINKING WHAT OTHER
09:26:08 NEIGHBORHOODS THIS IS REALLY EFFECTING.
09:26:11 FOR EXAMPLE, YBOR CITY.
09:26:14 YBOR CITY IS AN IMPORTANT URBAN CORE IN THE CITY.
09:26:15 IT IS THE HEARTBEAT OF TAMPA.
09:26:22 AND MOST OF THE ZONING IN YBOR CITY IS UMU-60, CC-35.
09:26:28 AND THE THIRD ZONING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO -- TO BE
09:26:31 CURRENTLY CHANGED.
09:26:35 NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THIS ZONING IS CREATING
09:26:41 SOME UNDESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER AREAS, BUT I
09:26:44 BELIEVE THAT, AGAIN, IT CAN NOT BE GENERALIZED, AND I
09:26:47 THINK IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT MORE SPECIFICALLY ON HOW
09:26:50 IT RELATES TO IMPORTANT URBAN CORES THROUGHOUT THE CITY
09:26:51 OF TAMPA.
09:26:53 SUCH LIKE YBOR CITY.
09:27:00 THE F.A.R. VERSUS UNIT -- AS A MEASURE TO COME UP WITH
09:27:05 DENSITY FOR A PROJECT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN URBAN
09:27:10 AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN YBOR CITY.
09:27:12 BECAUSE PROPERTIES ARE SMALL.
09:27:15 YOU ARE RESTRICTED.
09:27:19 SO, THEREFORE, THE UNIT PER ACRE IS NOT A FEASIBLE WAY
09:27:23 OF DEVELOPING AND CREATING A VIBRANT URBAN SCENARIO.
09:27:29 SO I AM HERE TODAY AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND AS A
09:27:32 CONCERNED LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER.
09:27:38 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND HEARING ME.
09:27:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:28:05 ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.
09:28:07 GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:28:08 GO AHEAD.
09:28:10 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:28:13 MY NAME IS SAM HARRIS.
09:28:17 I AM WITH SAM GEN COMMERCIAL REALITY.
09:28:20 I AM THE PRINCIPAL BROKER, OPPORTUNITY ADVISOR AND
09:28:21 DEVELOPER.
09:28:26 OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, I HAVE COME BEFORE THIS CITY
09:28:29 COUNCIL TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE A PART OF OPPORTUNITY
09:28:33 ZONE EVENTS THAT MY FIRM PUT ON TO EDUCATE THE CITY OF
09:28:37 TAMPA THE NEED AND IMPORTANCE OF OPPORTUNITY ZONE
09:28:37 PERSPECTIVES.
09:28:42 TO NO AVAIL, THAT INFORMATION AND THE NEED TO DO THAT
09:28:45 WAS NOT HEEDED.
09:28:50 OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS, THERE WAS AN RFP PUT UP FOR
09:28:51 OPPORTUNITY ZONE PERSPECTIVES.
09:28:56 MY COMPANY DID NOT RECEIVE THE INITIAL RESPONSE TO BE
09:29:00 ABLE TO BID ON THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE; THEREFORE, WE PUT
09:29:02 TOGETHER A COALITION OF INDIVIDUALS --
09:29:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MOMENT, SIR.
09:29:07 ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS IS -- IS GOING TO SPEAK.
09:29:11 YES, MISS ZELMAN.
09:29:14 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING, ANDREA
09:29:16 ZELMAN, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
09:29:22 I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN IS ADDRESSING A RFP THAT HAS
09:29:26 NOT YET BEEN AWARDED AND DURING THE PROCUREMENT THERE
09:29:27 IS SOMETHING IN EFFECT CALLED "THE CONE OF SILENCE"
09:29:30 WHERE ALL INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE
09:29:34 PROCESS ARE NOT TO DISCUSS THE RFP WITH ANYONE OTHER
09:29:37 THAN CERTAIN IDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS, WHICH CERTAINLY
09:29:40 DOES NOT INCLUDE THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE
09:29:41 PUBLIC.
09:29:44 SO I WOULD -- I WOULD CAUTION THIS GENTLEMAN TO NOT
09:29:49 DISCUSS A PARTICULAR RFP WHICH IS STILL UNDER A CONE OF
09:29:51 SILENCE.
09:29:54 HE CAN JEOPARDIZE HIS OWN POSITION IN THE PROCESS AS
09:29:56 WELL AS THE PROCESS ITSELF.
09:30:00 THANK YOU.
09:30:01 >> MISS ZELMAN.
09:30:02 I AM GOING TO CONTINUE.
09:30:06 THE CONE OF SILENCE DOES NOT APPLY TO ME BECAUSE MY
09:30:09 COMPANY HAS AUTOMATICALLY BEEN RED LINED IN THIS
09:30:10 PROCESS.
09:30:11 OKAY.
09:30:14 AFRICAN-AMERICANS ALL ACROSS THIS CITY HAVE BEEN TRYING
09:30:19 TO DO OPPORTUNITY ZONES PROJECTS AND HAVE BEEN DENIED
09:30:21 TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
09:30:25 MY FIRM HAS OVER 125 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
09:30:28 AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS REVIEWING THE FILE, CAROLE
09:30:32 POST, GAVE MY COMPANY A 1 RATING.
09:30:35 AT THIS POINT, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN A OPPORTUNITY
09:30:35 ZONE PERSPECTIVE.
09:30:37 WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN TO MAKE SURE THAT
09:30:40 AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN AND WOMEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:30:42 BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH THE CITY.
09:30:48 IT IS APPALLING THAT THIS CITY, THAT THIS MAYOR, THAT
09:30:53 THE EXECUTIVES ARE -- ACTUALLY THE REVIEW COMMITTEE IS
09:30:56 TO NOT NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH
09:30:57 THE PUBLIC.
09:31:01 WHEN THEY ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC THEY COME UP WITH
09:31:05 SMALL BIASES THAT THEY GET OFFENDED BECAUSE SOMEONE
09:31:06 TELLS THEM THE TRUTH.
09:31:11 I AM ASKING FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL TO STOP THE RFP IN
09:31:11 ITS TRACKS.
09:31:13 I DON'T CARE ABOUT A CONE OF SILENCE.
09:31:16 WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER
09:31:16 PEOPLE.
09:31:19 I DON'T NEED THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PERSPECTIVES.
09:31:19 I DON'T.
09:31:22 I GOT PROJECTS ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.
09:31:24 BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
09:31:29 THAT CAN'T GET IN, AND IT IS APPALLING THAT THE CITY OF
09:31:35 TAMPA IN 2021 WILL ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
09:31:38 I HAVE BEEN MORE THAN PATIENT.
09:31:40 I HAVE BEEN COURTESY.
09:31:45 I HAVE BEEN OUT HERE BEHIND THE SCENES FIGHTING FOR MEN
09:31:46 AND WOMEN WHO LOOK LIKE ME.
09:31:49 IN 1992 I STOOD BEFORE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FOR THE SAME
09:31:50 ISSUE.
09:31:52 I WAS 19 YEARS OLD THEN.
09:31:54 I WAS A STUDENT IN COLLEGE.
09:31:57 MY GOAL WAS TO BE AN ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER.
09:32:01 MY FEAR WAS, I WOULD BE DENIED NO MATTER HOW GOOD I
09:32:04 WAS, NO MATTER HOW MANY DEGREES I HAVE.
09:32:08 MY TEAM HAS FOUR MBA DEGREES.
09:32:11 WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS ON OUR TEAM WITH CCIM
09:32:13 DESIGNATIONS.
09:32:15 THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A PHD.
09:32:21 IT IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE FOR ANY PUBLIC OFFICIAL TO
09:32:25 REVIEW A RFP IN THE WAY THEY DID MY FIRM, AND THEY ARE
09:32:28 DENYING OPPORTUNITY FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE CITY
09:32:29 OF TAMPA.
09:32:33 AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, BUSINESSES CLOSE FOR
09:32:35 AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IF YOU WERE
09:32:37 TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD AND SHOULD NOT BE.
09:32:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:32:41 WE HAVE SOME COUNCILMEMBERS THAT WANT TO RESPOND.
09:32:43 COUNCILMAN GUDES --
09:32:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT, IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:32:50 I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL ABOUT YOUR RULES AND YOUR
09:32:54 PREROGATIVE AND COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE BUT TO ENGAGE THE
09:32:57 SPEAKER IN PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT TAKES
09:33:00 PLACE -- IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT, BUT I CAN READ
09:33:02 YOU THE RULE THAT DISCOURAGES THAT.
09:33:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I UNDERSTAND.
09:33:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE.
09:33:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW.
09:33:10 AND I UNDERSTAND.
09:33:13 COUNCILMAN GUDES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN
09:33:15 CITRO.
09:33:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THE
09:33:18 PROCESS.
09:33:21 I DO UNDERSTAND MR. HARRIS' FRUSTRATION.
09:33:24 THIS COUNCIL IS WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
09:33:27 NUMBERS ARE INCREASING ON THE PROGRAMS AND CONTRACTS,
09:33:30 AND RECENTLY I HAVE BEEN SEEING THAT WITH SOME OF THE
09:33:33 CONTRACTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH, BUT WE STILL HAVE A
09:33:34 FEW CHALLENGES.
09:33:38 I DID MAKE A CALL TO MISS POST FOR SOME E-MAILS THAT I
09:33:39 GOT.
09:33:43 SHE DID TELL ME IN REFERENCE TO THAT -- THAT PROCESS IS
09:33:43 --
09:33:45 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: EXCUSE ME.
09:33:48 SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT PLEASE DON'T DISCUSS THE RFP
09:33:50 AT ISSUE.
09:33:55 AGAIN, IT IS STILL -- IT IS NOT BEEN AWARDED -- AND
09:33:58 INAPPROPRIATE FOR ANYONE TO BE DISCUSSING IT AT THIS
09:33:59 POINT IN TIME.
09:34:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL TAKE YOUR ADVICE, MISS ZELMAN,
09:34:07 AND CONVERSATIONS AND HOPING THIS THING WILL BE
09:34:08 RESOLVED.
09:34:10 MR. HARRIS, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION, AND THIS
09:34:13 COUNCIL IS WORKING HARD TO CORRECT SOME WRONGS DONE IN
09:34:14 THE PAST.
09:34:16 WE ARE WORKING WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH PROJECT COMING
09:34:20 ON BOARD AND WILL MONITOR ALL PROJECTS SHORTLY AND WE
09:34:23 WILL BE MONITORING EACH AND EVERY PROJECT TO MAKE SURE
09:34:26 THERE IS FAIRNESS AND OPPORTUNITY AND EQUITY IN ALL OF
09:34:26 OUR CONTRACTS.
09:34:27 THANK YOU.
09:34:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:34:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOOD, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:34:33 COUNCILMAN CITRO, NO?
09:34:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:34:41 >> MY PARTNER WANTS TO SPEAK AS WELL.
09:34:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, YOU HAVE THREE
09:34:43 MINUTES.
09:34:45 >> I WON'T NEED ALL OF THAT TIME, BUT THANK YOU.
09:34:48 THE GREATEST I THINK THAT NEED TO SAY AS --
09:34:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE
09:34:50 RECORD.
09:34:55 >> BJ HARRIS WITH GEN COMMERCIAL REALTY.
09:34:58 I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, ALL OF YOUR
09:35:01 ATTENTION, AS LONG AS WE ARE SILENCED AND TOLD WE CAN
09:35:07 NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BASICALLY ENGAGE AND HAVE
09:35:12 THIS CONVERSATION, CHANGE WILL NOT HAPPEN.
09:35:13 AT ALL.
09:35:19 MY COMPANY -- OUR COMPANY WAS THE ONLY COMPANY
09:35:23 SO-CALLED INVESTIGATED DURING THIS PROCESS TO JUSTIFY
09:35:28 IF WE WERE EVEN LICENSED OR LEGITIMATE.
09:35:33 WE WERE ALSO ASSUMED THAT WE PROVIDED FALSE INFORMATION
09:35:35 FOR CERTIFICATION.
09:35:39 NOW IF THAT'S NOT A FORM OF SYSTEMIC RACISM WITHIN THE
09:35:41 SYSTEM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.
09:35:46 SO I WANT IT TO BE HEARD THAT THIS WILL NOT BE
09:35:47 TOLERATED.
09:35:51 THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE FAIR IN THIS COMMUNITY, YOU ARE
09:35:53 GOING TO HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT.
09:35:59 AND IT DOES NOT NEED TO FALL ONLY ON THE HANDS OF THE
09:35:59 COMMITTEE.
09:36:03 IT NEEDS TO BE THE COUNCILMEN UNDER A GUISE THAT NEED
09:36:05 TO COME TOGETHER AND YOU NEED TO CREATE A BETTER
09:36:06 SYSTEM.
09:36:09 BECAUSE UNTIL THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED, NOTHING MOVING IS
09:36:11 FORWARD.
09:36:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:36:20 WE ARE GOING TO SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND HAVE THE NEXT
09:36:39 SPEAKER.
09:36:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:36:47 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
09:36:49 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:36:55 >> MY NAME IS REM AMA COY.
09:36:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
09:36:59 >> I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND DO MY CIVIC DUTY
09:37:02 TO SPEAK AND RAISE OUR VOICE BECAUSE I SPEAK FOR MANY
09:37:05 WHO ARE NOT HERE, BUT WE ARE MANY THAT FEEL THE SAME
09:37:06 WAY.
09:37:10 WE WANT MORE CHANGE IN EAST TAMPA AND FOR SULPHUR
09:37:11 SPRINGS.
09:37:16 I AM A SULPHUR SPRINGS RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER FOR THE
09:37:17 LAST 16 YEARS.
09:37:20 I HAVE SEEN A LOT THAT HAS DEVELOPED AND I HAVE SEEN IT
09:37:22 IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT IN WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT
09:37:23 WORKING.
09:37:24 OKAY.
09:37:25 I AM SEEING THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PROMISES THAT ARE
09:37:28 BEING MADE, AND I WANTED TO GO ON RECORD SAYING IT IS
09:37:30 NOT BEING DELIVERED.
09:37:32 THOSE PROGRAMS ARE NOT HELPING.
09:37:36 WE HAVE TRIED A LOT, SO THIS IS ONE WAY THAT I AM
09:37:41 TRYING TO GET MY VOICE ACROSS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE
09:37:45 -- WE JUST -- YOU KNOW AS A PERSON AND WORK WITH THE
09:37:49 COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STUFF HAVE GOT TO STOP.
09:37:54 I BELIEVE WE -- WE WANT MORE EVER COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:38:00 I ALSO WANT TO -- I WAS ON A ZOOM RECENTLY AND YOU MADE
09:38:01 A COMMENT OF BLACK MEN.
09:38:03 YOU DON'T THINK THEY WANT MUCH.
09:38:04 THEY WANT TO SIT UNDER THE TREE.
09:38:09 AND YOU SAID THEY REALLY DON'T WANT TO WORK.
09:38:10 LIKE THEY ARE LAZY.
09:38:11 I DISAGREE WITH THAT.
09:38:15 AND I WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT I COMPLETELY DISAGREE
09:38:15 WITH THAT.
09:38:20 THEY DO WANT MORE AND WANT IT REALLY BAD AND I AM VERY
09:38:22 DISAPPOINTED AND VERY OFFENSIVE.
09:38:25 I AM A MOTHER OF TWO BROWN BOYS, AND I KNOW THE FEAR
09:38:28 THEY GO INTO THE WORKPLACE JUST WORKING AND GOING OUT
09:38:30 IN PUBLIC, YOU KNOW.
09:38:34 IT IS -- IT IS REALLY DISCOURAGING TO SEE THAT PEOPLE
09:38:37 -- YOU KNOW, EVEN IN EAST TAMPA, YOU CAN PRACTICALLY
09:38:41 HAVE A DEAD BODY ON THE ROAD, AND IT WON'T EVEN MATTER
09:38:42 AND IS TOO HORRIBLE OUT THERE.
09:38:43 AND WE KNOW THE CONDITIONS.
09:38:45 WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE FACING.
09:38:48 WE KNOW ON THE JOB THAT WE ARE FACING A LOT OF
09:38:49 DISPARITIES.
09:38:51 WE GOT TO BE REAL ABOUT THIS.
09:38:53 WE DESERVE A PRICE.
09:38:54 WE WANT MORE JOBS.
09:38:57 YOU DID PROMISE MORE JOBS, AND I HOPE YOU MAKE DO ON
09:38:58 IT.
09:39:01 WE NEED BETTER HOUSING WE CAN OWN, RATHER THAN CRUMBS
09:39:03 THAT CAN BE SNATCHED AWAY.
09:39:05 AND THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE.
09:39:10 I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE INFORMANTS IN OUR
09:39:10 AREA.
09:39:13 YOU ALSO MENTIONED INFORMANTS.
09:39:17 I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED INFORMANTS TO STOP THE CRIME.
09:39:18 THE JAILS ARE OVERCROWDED.
09:39:21 WAY MORE THAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE THAN TO KEEP
09:39:25 LOCKING THEM UP, BECAUSE WHEN THEY GET OUT THEY STILL
09:39:29 WON'T HAVE A HOME AND EVEN MORE DISCOURAGED AND PISSED
09:39:30 OFF.
09:39:32 I'M THE MOTHER OF A 28-YEAR-OLD BLACK MALE AND
09:39:37 21-YEAR-OLD BLACK MALE AND IT IS SCARY OUT THERE.
09:39:40 I AM HOPING THAT YOU MAKE GOOD ON GOOD PROGRAMS FOR OUR
09:39:42 CHILDREN SO THEY CAN DO SOMETHING AND HAVE SOMEWHERE TO
09:39:46 GO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY CROWDING IN THE STREETS IN
09:39:49 SULPHUR SPRINGS AND MAKING A MESS.
09:39:51 I DON'T BLAME THE KIDS.
09:39:54 I BLAME THE POLICYMAKER BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE MORE
09:39:55 FOR THEM TO DO.
09:39:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:39:58 >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
09:40:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SEVERAL OF
09:40:03 SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:40:05 AND THIS IS ANOTHER BIG FOCUS ON OUR PLATFORM ON THE
09:40:08 SECOND HALF OF COUNCIL FOR ME.
09:40:10 THAT CONVERSATION WAS RECORDED.
09:40:13 I MADE IT CLEAR ABOUT SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE WITH A LIKE
09:40:17 TO TRY GET UP THERE AND APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, MAKE
09:40:21 SURE THAT WORK THAT IS GOING UP THERE, WE HAVE FOLKS IN
09:40:22 THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WORKING.
09:40:26 I MADE COMMENTS BUT NOT DEROGATORY TOWARD MY BLACK
09:40:26 MALES.
09:40:29 EVERYBODY KNOWS I FIGHT FOR THOSE BLACK MALES.
09:40:31 WE HAVE TO HAVE PROGRAMS TO GET THOSE GUYS FROM
09:40:34 UNDERNEATH THE TREES, TO GET THEM WORKING.
09:40:38 THOSE WHO HAVE BAD BACKGROUND WORK ISSUES OR TAINTED BY
09:40:40 THE SYSTEM, TO GET THEM INVOLVED.
09:40:45 SO LET ME SAY IF I OFFENDED THE YOUNG LADY -- BUT I
09:40:47 MADE MYSELF CLEAR THAT DAY WHEN SHE SAID SHE WAS
09:40:48 OFFENDED.
09:40:51 ANYBODY ELSE ON THE CALL, ON THE ZOOM CALL, ALSO HEARD
09:40:55 WHAT I SAID AND CONCURRED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS
09:40:55 SAYING.
09:40:57 SO LET ME MAKE THAT CLEAR.
09:40:58 I ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF MY OWN.
09:41:02 I MAKE SURE MY OWN HAVE AND TRY TO GET PROGRAMS TO BE
09:41:04 ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
09:41:07 BECAUSE IF YOU WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL YOU CAN'T SUCCEED
09:41:08 AND GET TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
09:41:11 I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND CLEAR THAT.
09:41:15 IF SHE WAS OFFENDED LET ME APOLOGIZE FOR MY VERBIAGE.
09:41:17 I WANT OUR YOUNG BLACK MALES WORKING.
09:41:19 I WANT THEM CRIME-FREE.
09:41:21 I WANT THE BEST FOR THEM.
09:41:25 BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOW ON IN DAIS, HOW MANY YOUTH
09:41:29 PROGRAMS I PUT TOGETHER AND HOW MANY BLACK MALES I SENT
09:41:32 TO SCHOOL -- OR PAID TO GO TO SCHOOL.
09:41:35 IF SHE WAS OFFENDED, I APOLOGIZE FOR HER, BUT I STAND
09:41:36 BY WHAT I SAID.
09:41:40 GET THOSE YOUNG BLACK MALES FROM UNDER THE TREES AND
09:41:42 GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES AND I STAND BY THAT.
09:41:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:41:45 YES, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.
09:41:46 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:41:50 CONNIE BURTON.
09:41:54 I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE EMPLOYEE THAT ENDURED 44
09:41:55 YEARS.
09:41:59 HOPEFULLY SHE HAD MORE JOY THAN PAIN.
09:42:03 BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOR --
09:42:06 ABOUT 30 YEARS IF NOT MORE.
09:42:10 I HAVE SEEN SOME COUNCILMEN COME AND GO AND WILL
09:42:12 CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUES.
09:42:14 SO WE ARE FAMILY.
09:42:17 WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ON ECHOING THE NEEDS OF THE
09:42:19 FAMILY.
09:42:21 PART OF YOUR AGENDA ITEM, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
09:42:27 RESOURCES TO -- FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
09:42:28 GRANT.
09:42:32 I HOPE THOSE AGENCIES ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE LARGE
09:42:35 NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN EVICTED.
09:42:39 I KNOW THERE SEEMS TO BE LANGUAGE THAT IN SOME OF THESE
09:42:45 RESOURCES THAT IS ONLY DEALING WITH RENTAL PROPERTIES,
09:42:49 FOR LANDLORDS TO GET THEIR PAY WHICH THEY SHOULD, BUT
09:42:53 THERE IS A HOMELESS CLIMATE THAT IS GROWING EVERY DAY
09:42:56 LARGER AND LARGER WITH SO MANY FAMILIES THAT ARE BEING
09:42:59 FORCED OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY
09:43:02 CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.
09:43:06 SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS CULTURE, AND LET ME JUST SAY
09:43:07 THIS AS WELL.
09:43:11 I AM ENCOURAGED WHAT I HEAR COMING OUT OF WASHINGTON
09:43:14 D.C. FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL
09:43:21 PARTY BECAUSE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE IS A DEBT DUE
09:43:28 AND THE PROMISE BY POLITICAL LIPS AT ONE POINT IN TIME
09:43:29 HAVE TO BE A RECKONING.
09:43:31 MOVING FORWARD IN JOB CREATION.
09:43:37 WHEN WE COME DOWN HERE HEAR FROM 000.1% THE LEVEL OF
09:43:38 AFRICAN PARTICIPATION.
09:43:41 WHEN WE TALK OF HOME TO HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE
09:43:46 COMMUNITY, THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS IN
09:43:49 EAST TAMPA THAT IT CAN BE IN EAST TAMPA FOR ALL.
09:43:53 YOU KNOW, I HEAR THIS COMMENT THAT WE ARE AFRAID OF THE
09:43:53 OTHERS.
09:43:55 THE OTHERS THAT ARE COMING.
09:43:59 WELL, THE OTHERS IS PART OF A LARGER, BROADER COMMUNITY
09:44:02 THAT WE WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE FOR ALL.
09:44:06 AND WE ARE GOING TO STAY DUG INTO THAT.
09:44:07 STAY FOCUSSED.
09:44:09 WE BELIEVE THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN DO IT.
09:44:12 WE HEARD THE MAYOR WHEN SHE TALKED OF HER TRANSFORMING
09:44:13 TAMPA FOR TOMORROW.
09:44:17 IT IS NOT TO EXCLUDE US, BUT TO INCLUDE US IN A -- IN A
09:44:23 HOUSING PROJECT THAT CAN BE MORE REFLECTED ON THE
09:44:25 INCOME AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
09:44:29 AND WE ALSO SAY THAT FOR THE FAMILIES THAT ARE THERE,
09:44:34 WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE RESOURCES SO WE CAN UPGRADE THE
09:44:37 QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE THERE.
09:44:41 WE DO NOT WANT TO BE LIVING IN THE PROCESS THAT WE SEE
09:44:44 A REBUILT SOUTH AFRICA IN TAMPA.
09:44:48 AND IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL, YOU MIGHT SAY ALL IS
09:44:52 WELCOME, BUT ALL WILL NOT BE WELCOMED IF THIS IS BASED
09:44:54 ON INCOME.
09:44:55 THANK YOU.
09:45:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:45:13 ALL RIGHT.
09:45:15 NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
09:45:18 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:45:21 I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND SOME OF
09:45:22 THE WHITE PEOPLE IN GENERAL.
09:45:26 THEY HAVE A PROCESS OF EVOLVING OPPRESSION.
09:45:28 EVOLVING RACISM.
09:45:30 TAKING IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
09:45:33 WHEN YOU COME RIGHT HERE TO CITY COUNCIL, YOU GOT
09:45:34 POLICE OFFICERS WATCHING YOU.
09:45:36 SECURITY GUARDS HARASSING YOU.
09:45:38 JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
09:45:41 THE CITY IS SO DISRESPECTFUL THE FACT OF THE MATTER
09:45:46 THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE AN OPEN MIC TO SPEAK FOR THREE
09:45:46 MINUTES.
09:45:50 THAT IS -- THAT IS NOT AN AGENDA, THEY INTERRUPT YOU.
09:45:51 AND URGENCY.
09:45:54 AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN MR. SAM HARRIS -- OH THAT IS
09:45:56 NOT AN AGENDA, THIS, THIS.
09:45:57 GARBAGE.
09:45:59 A GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL.
09:46:00 THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
09:46:01 A CERTAIN KIND OF HATE.
09:46:04 A CERTAIN KIND OF HATE YOU HAVE FOR BLACKNESS.
09:46:07 A CERTAIN KIND OF HATE YOU HAVE FOR BLACK SKIN.
09:46:10 CERTAIN KIND OF HATE YOU HAVE FOR BLACK EXISTENCE AND
09:46:13 THAT KIND OF HATRED HAVE TO STOP.
09:46:15 NOW RESPECT FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:46:17 NO RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY.
09:46:19 NO RESPECT FOR REFORM.
09:46:21 NO RESPECT FOR RECONCILIATION.
09:46:23 NO RESPECT FOR REPARATIONS.
09:46:26 YES, REPARATIONS.
09:46:30 600 YEARS, 400 YEARS ON THIS COULDN'T MEANT.
09:46:33 NO RESPECT -- IN THIS CONTINENT.
09:46:37 NO RESPECT FOR THE 26% OF THE AFRICAN POPULATION AND
09:46:41 PUSH US OUT AND PUSH US UNDER AND YOU ARE FINDING THESE
09:46:43 GRAVEYARDS PUSHING UP EVERYWHERE.
09:46:43 NO RESPECT.
09:46:45 EVEN IN DEATH, NO RESPECT FOR US.
09:46:48 NO RESPECT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE FOR US IN LIFE.
09:46:49 YEAH, NONE.
09:46:50 NONE WHATSOEVER.
09:46:53 NO RESPECT FOR AFRICAN DIGNITY.
09:46:54 NO RESPECT FOR OUR MEDICAL CONDITION.
09:46:58 NO RESPECT FOR OUR KIDS, FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR
09:47:00 YOUNGSTERS.
09:47:01 NONE WHATSOEVER.
09:47:04 WE GET NO RESPECT IN THIS CITY LIKE RODNEY DANGERFIELD
09:47:06 SAY, WE GET NO RESPECT.
09:47:09 ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NO RESPECT.
09:47:14 SHOT OUT FOR MR. MOSES KNOTT TRYING TO GET RESPECT AND
09:47:18 TRYING TO TAKE HIS PROPERTY AND NO RESPECT AND HE
09:47:23 DECEASED AND GONE BUT AT LEAST THE EMBODIMENT OF THE
09:47:24 RESISTANCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:47:28 NO MATTER WHAT OR NO MATTER HOW YOU COME, HOW MUCH YOU
09:47:31 TRY TO SUPPRESS US, KEEP US BACK, SAY NASTY THINGS
09:47:32 ABOUT US.
09:47:35 NASTY THINGS COME FROM YOUR MOUTHS ABOUT US.
09:47:36 NASTY THOUGHTS.
09:47:38 THOUGHTS OF HATRED.
09:47:40 GEORGE FLOYD TO BE AN EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE
09:47:42 WE ARE SEEING ON TELEVISION.
09:47:44 BUT WE EXPERIENCE THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
09:47:47 600,000 BICYCLE STOPS IN THIS CITY.
09:47:51 OVER 600,000 BICYCLE STOPS, AND NO RESPECT, NO
09:47:54 APOLOGIES INTO NOTHING.
09:47:57 NO JOBS, NO OPPORTUNITIES, AND NO HOUSING.
09:47:59 PUSHING US OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND LAUGHING ABOUT IT
09:48:04 AND THINK UNCLE TOMS AND AUNT JEMIMAS TOGETHER AND HOLD
09:48:08 A FEW PREACHERS AND GIVE AN INVOCATION AND SAY HOLD
09:48:09 THAT DOWN.
09:48:11 THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS TO TIGHTEN UP.
09:48:13 YOU HAVE TO TIGHTEN UP.
09:48:16 YOU LIKE LIVING IN THE PAST SOMEWHERE AND WANT AFRICAN
09:48:18 PEOPLE TO LIVE IN THE PAST WITH YOU.
09:48:22 TO THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENDURE
09:48:24 OPPRESSION AND BE COOL WITH IT.
09:48:26 NO, WE ARE NOT COOL WITH IT AT ALL.
09:48:28 YOU ARE GROWN FOLKS TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO DRESS AND
09:48:29 WHAT SIGN THEY CAN HOLD.
09:48:32 BUT DEVELOPERS CAN BRING ALL KIND OF SIGNS IN HERE TO
09:48:35 EXPRESS THE WAY THEY FEEL BUT AFRICAN PEOPLE OPPRESSED
09:48:37 FOR 400 YEARS.
09:48:40 WE CAN'T BRING A SIGN TO EXPRESS THE WAY WE FEEL.
09:48:42 MAN, TIGHTEN UP, MAN.
09:48:45 OUR PEOPLE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT AND WOULD NOT ACCEPT THOSE
09:48:47 CONDITIONS OF OPPRESSION ANYMORE.
09:48:49 IT'S DONE AND OVER WITH.
09:49:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:49:17 ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.
09:49:23 YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
09:49:24 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:49:26 >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
09:49:29 MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.
09:49:33 MY ADDRESS IS SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
09:49:36 AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 46 THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED
09:49:40 BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND MRS. POST'S OFFICE AS
09:49:40 WELL.
09:49:45 INITIALLY GIVEN THE GRAVITY OF THE ORDINANCE, I ASK
09:49:48 THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO SPEAK WHEN THE
09:49:51 AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED.
09:49:55 IF OTHER ISSUES ARE RAISED ABOUT THE ORDINANCE,
09:50:00 AND I AM CERTAIN THAT IS AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION,
09:50:03 BUT PERHAPS WE CAN TALK AGAIN IF OTHER ISSUES COME UP.
09:50:09 AS TO THE MEMORANDUM AS PREPARED BY MISS POST AND MISS
09:50:13 GRIMES, I TEND TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE -- WITH THE
09:50:15 INTENT OF THE DOCUMENT.
09:50:23 I DO, HOWEVER, HAVE SOME -- SOME CONCERNS THAT THE --
09:50:32 AND I AM READING FROM THE MEMORANDUM THAT YOU ARE
09:50:37 ELIMINATING THE F.A.R. CALCULATION IN THE UMU-06, CCU
09:50:39 35, WHICH I THINK IS OKAY.
09:50:42 IT IS QUITE CONFUSING, IN FACT, AND REQUIRES A
09:50:46 EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND I DON'T HAVE TOO
09:50:48 MUCH DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT AND WE WILL BUILD ACCORDING
09:50:51 TO THE DENSITY AND THAT IS THE GOVERNMENT'S PREROGATIVE
09:50:54 BUT I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH THAT,
09:50:58 QUOTE, CITY COUNCIL RETAINS THE DISCRETION TO DIRECT A
09:51:03 MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE PERCENTAGE OF NONRESIDENTIAL FOR
09:51:07 ANY PROPOSED MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY PROPOSAL ON A
09:51:10 CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
09:51:14 I THINK THAT IS F.A.R. BY ANOTHER NAME; HOWEVER, THE
09:51:18 CITY COUNCIL DICTATES REGARDLESS OF MARKET FORCES
09:51:22 WHETHER YOUR PROJECT IS APPROVED OR NOT DEPENDING ON
09:51:24 WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL LIKES THE AMOUNT OF MIXED USE
09:51:26 OR THE TYPE OF MIXED USE.
09:51:32 AND I THINK THAT IS A VERY TRICKY WAY FOR LAND USE
09:51:35 APPROVALS TO GO ESPECIALLY IN THE MIXED USE CONTEXT.
09:51:37 THAT NEEDS TO BE DICTATED BY MARKET FORCES.
09:51:42 YOU CAN'T JUST MANDATE 25% RETAIL ON A PROJECT WHERE
09:51:44 THERE IS NO RETAIL DEMAND.
09:51:47 FOR INSTANCE, LOOK AT SOME OF THE CORNERS DOWNTOWN
09:51:50 WHERE MIXED USE HAS BEEN PUT IN AND LOOK AT, FOR
09:51:53 INSTANCE, THE ENCORE PROJECT.
09:52:04 YOU CAN NOT CENTRAL PLAN AND CONDITION OF ZONING.
09:52:09 DISCRETION TO DIRECT AND CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
09:52:12 I'M CONCERNED OF THOSE TWO WORDS.
09:52:15 I THINK IT CREATES MISCHIEF, AND I AM OKAY WITH THE
09:52:19 F.A.R. ISSUE BUT DON'T COME AROUND THE BACK OF F.A.R.
09:52:24 FOR WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL THINKS IS A PROPER F.A.R. AND
09:52:26 YET WE ARE NOT OPERATING IN THE MARKETPLACE.
09:52:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
09:52:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. NEXT
09:52:53 SPEAKER.
09:52:56 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
09:53:00 MY NAME IS MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
09:53:06 I REPRESENT THE CAPITANO FAMILY AND THE OWNERS OF
09:53:07 PROPERTY IN THE GREATER YBOR DISTRICT.
09:53:10 I DIDN'T INTEND TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
09:53:14 WE RECEIVED A MEMO DATED MARCH 30, YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
09:53:17 AND THE INTENT OF THE DISCUSSION IS, WE HAVE BEEN
09:53:20 MONITORING WAS TO DEAL WITH ISSUES RELATED TO SOUTH OF
09:53:21 GANDY.
09:53:26 AND THIS MEMORANDUM AUTHORED BY MISS POST AND MISS
09:53:29 GRIMES MENTIONS MEETINGS CONCERNING GANDY.
09:53:34 AND THEN ON PAGE TWO, SAYS IF ADOPTED, THEY WOULD
09:53:39 ELIMINATE THE F.A.R. ABILITY TO DEVELOP AS AN OPTION
09:53:45 UNDER UMU-60, CMU-35, AND CC-35.
09:53:48 THE STAKEHOLDERS IN YBOR CITY, I THINK TAMPA HEIGHTS
09:53:52 AND THE OTHER URBAN REDEVELOPMENT AREAS, HAVEN'T HAD AN
09:53:53 OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
09:53:56 AND I THINK IT IS KIND OF A POOR WAY TO DO BUSINESS
09:53:59 ACTUALLY SCRAMBLING OVER HERE TO GET THREE MINUTES OF
09:54:00 TIME IN FRONT OF YOU.
09:54:03 BUT IN ANY EVENT, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR AND
09:54:07 A HALF, CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THREE LAND USE
09:54:11 CHANGES IN YBOR CITY THAT I REPRESENT THE OWNERS ON
09:54:14 THAT ALLOW FOR THE USE OF THE F.A.R. TO FACILITATE
09:54:17 URBAN REDEVELOPMENT.
09:54:21 ELIMINATING THE F.A.R. OPTION TOTALLY CONTRADICTS THE
09:54:25 GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE URBAN VILLAGE
09:54:30 THAT INCUR HIGHER DENSITY NEAR MASS TRANSIT.
09:54:33 THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT IS SMALLER PROPERTIES, HIGHER
09:54:37 LAND COSTS, RIGID ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS,
09:54:42 UNREASONABLE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, 45, 60 FEET, ON-SITE
09:54:43 PARKING REQUIRED.
09:54:48 YOU CAN SEE UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU NEED THE
09:54:51 ABILITY TO HAVE AS MANY UNITS AS POSSIBLE.
09:54:55 THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION ARE NOT CONCERNED OF THE
09:54:56 NUMBER OF UNITS BUT CONCERNED OF THE EXTERIOR
09:54:59 APPEARANCE.
09:55:03 SO WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST IS -- AND WE WORKED VERY HARD
09:55:05 WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ELIMINATE THE BONUS
09:55:09 REQUIREMENT TO FULFILL DENSITY IN YBOR CITY AND ALLOW
09:55:12 THE F.A.R. AS THE OPTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.
09:55:16 SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL NOT TO MAKE A HASTY
09:55:16 DECISION.
09:55:19 GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THE PLANNERS
09:55:23 OR WHOEVER ELSE IS INVOLVED YOU FEEL NECESSARY IS
09:55:25 ENGAGED IN THE DISCUSSION, AND DON'T MAKE A HASTY
09:55:28 DECISION ON THIS THAT WILL HAVE FAR-REACHING NEGATIVE
09:55:29 IMPLICATIONS.
09:55:31 IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
09:55:37 WE ARE WORKING ON THREE PROJECTS THAT UTILIZE F.A.R. IN
09:55:40 YBOR CITY AND WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE THESE PROJECTS IF
09:55:43 THE SITUATION EXISTED WITH THE THREE MIXED-USE
09:55:45 CATEGORIES ELIMINATED THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
09:55:46 THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
09:55:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:55:51 I BELIEVE THIS IS ALL OF OUR IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
09:55:54 WE HAVE 12 REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR VIRTUAL PUBLIC
09:56:01 COMMENT.
09:56:05 AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS RANDY COEN.
09:56:08 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:56:11 RANDY, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF,
09:56:13 AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:56:13 >> THANK YOU.
09:56:14 MY NAME IS RANDY COEN.
09:56:16 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:56:19 I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 46, AND I WILL BE VERY
09:56:20 BRIEF.
09:56:24 I HAVE DONE A PREPARED PRESENTATION REGARDING THE
09:56:27 RESOLUTION BASED UPON TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS.
09:56:31 AND UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOW ON THE WAYSIDE AND WE ARE
09:56:33 DEALING WITH THE ALTERNATIVE RESOLUTION.
09:56:37 I WOULD SIMPLY SUGGEST AND URGE TO YOU FOLLOW THE
09:56:40 PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH DIRECTS
09:56:48 GROWTH TO DOWNTOWN, WEST SHORE, USF AND THE URBAN
09:56:50 VILLAGES CONTAINED IN THE COMP PLAN.
09:56:52 THOSE AREAS I RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT ELIMINATE THE
09:56:59 F.A.R. OPTION FOR CMU-35, CC-35 AND UMU-60.
09:57:02 IN THIS WAY, YOU WOULD BE ENCOURAGING GROWTH IN THOSE
09:57:06 AREAS THAT THE COMP PLAN DIRECTS GROWTH TOO.
09:57:11 AND WILL BE PROVIDING A HINDRANCE FOR FOLKS WANTING TO
09:57:13 DEVELOP IN OTHER AREAS WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BE IN THE
09:57:15 SPIRIT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:57:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:22 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID MECHANIK.
09:57:24 >>CLERK: DAVID, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE UNMUTE
09:57:28 YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:57:30 >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:57:32 MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
09:57:34 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:57:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
09:57:37 >> THANK YOU.
09:57:41 I'M HERE -- I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 46.
09:57:45 I REPRESENT PIPER VENTURES, WHICH IS A SUBSTANTIAL
09:57:53 PROPERTY OWNER IN THE RATTLESNAKE POINT AREA.
09:57:57 WE -- MY CLIENTS HAVE ASKED ME TO SAY THAT WE SUPPORT
09:58:02 THE IDEA OF PURSUING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES THROUGH
09:58:08 THE NORMAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
09:58:12 WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY ENDORSING THIS SPECIFIC ONES
09:58:15 THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING PRO PROPOSED, BUT WE DO
09:58:18 SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
09:58:24 ON THE OTHER HAND, WE OBJECT TO THE FACT THAT THIS
09:58:29 RESOLUTION AND PROPOSED ORDINANCE MAKES CHANGES THAT
09:58:32 WILL GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
09:58:36 AND I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN REGARDING THAT IS
09:58:42 HEIGHTENED GIVEN THE FACT THAT YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST
09:58:47 TIME WE SAW A DOCUMENT THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT
09:58:48 CITYWIDE.
09:58:55 THE ENTIRE CITY WOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THIS
09:58:56 CHANGE OF LANGUAGE.
09:58:58 WHICH THINK DOING THAT IS SIMPLY WRONG.
09:59:02 AGAIN, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO FOLLOW A
09:59:07 NORMAL PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS WHICH WOULD EVOLVE
09:59:12 VETTING OF LANGUAGE, PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, PUBLIC HEARINGS,
09:59:20 AND ALLOW FULL TRANSPARENCY AND AIRING OF ALL KIND OF
09:59:24 DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW NOT JUST REGULATIONS BUT
09:59:29 THROUGH THE NORMAL PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS.
09:59:32 THANK YOU.
09:59:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:36 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JACOB CREMER.
09:59:40 >>CLERK: JACOB, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE
09:59:42 YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:59:45 >> COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING, JAKE CREMER AT STEARNS
09:59:45 WEAVER.
09:59:47 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
09:59:56 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BUILD ON DAVE MECANIK'S
09:59:56 COMMENTS.
10:00:00 I AGREE WITH HIM AND SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF THE LAND USE
10:00:01 WHO HAVE SPOKEN ALREADY.
10:00:05 YOU KNOW, THE PROPER WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS IS TO MOVE
10:00:08 FORWARD WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL TO GO
10:00:12 THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS THAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY.
10:00:15 I THINK THAT ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
10:00:17 LIKED ABOUT WORKING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS THAT IT IS
10:00:20 A DELIBERATIVE CITY.
10:00:23 AND WE HAVE A GOOD PROCESS TO GO THROUGH -- GET
10:00:28 FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS, FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM
10:00:31 STAFF OR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS HERE.
10:00:33 AND FROM PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:00:36 AND SO THE WAY TO GO THROUGH THIS IS THROUGH THAT
10:00:38 PROCESS.
10:00:42 I AGREE WITH DAVE THAT MY CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSED
10:00:50 ORDINANCE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS INCLUDES THE
10:00:51 TERM ORDINANCE.
10:00:54 AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAY THAT WOULD BE APPLIED
10:01:00 IS IT WILL BE A MORATORIUM UNDER ANOTHER NAME WHILE WE
10:01:04 GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:01:06 AMENDMENTS TAKE A LONG TIME AND INTO ONE TO MY
10:01:08 KNOWLEDGE HAS ANALYZED THE EFFECTS OF WHAT THAT
10:01:17 MORATORIUM UNDER ANOTHER NAME WOULD HAVE ACROSS THE
10:01:22 CITY PERSONAL PERSONALLY WE WERE GIVEN THIS PROPOSAL
10:01:22 YESTERDAY.
10:01:26 AND IT WOULD HAVE MERIT BUT PUSHING THE PAUSE BUTTON
10:01:29 ACROSS THE CITY IN THE LAND USE CATEGORIES IS NOT THE
10:01:32 RIGHT WAY TO GO THROUGH THIS DELIBERATION.
10:01:37 YOU ALL PROBABLY SAW THE RECENT ARTICLES IN THE "TIMES"
10:01:40 OF RENTS ESCALATING AT A REALLY INCREASING RATE ACROSS
10:01:44 THE CITY, AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE OF THE CURRENT
10:01:48 PROPOSAL IS THAT IT COULD PUSH AGAINST OUR EFFORTS TO
10:01:52 BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORK FORCE HOUSING
10:01:55 THE CITY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK THE
10:01:59 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND WE
10:02:01 HAVEN'T ANALYZED THOSE QUESTIONS YESTERDAY.
10:02:04 SO, AGAIN, I THINK WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT
10:02:04 DIRECTION.
10:02:07 THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD COURSES AND WE WANT TO BE
10:02:11 ABLE TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS YOU GOING
10:02:12 THROUGHOUT NORMAL PROCESS.
10:02:16 THANK YOU.
10:02:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:20 NEXT IS ELISE BATSEL.
10:02:22 >>CLERK: ELISE, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE.
10:02:24 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:02:29 >> ELISE BATSEL WITH STEARNS, WEAVER AND MILLER, 401
10:02:31 EAST JACKSON STREET.
10:02:32 I WAS ONE OF THE FEW MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT
10:02:35 COMMUNITY THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING BETWEEN THE CITY
10:02:36 AND THE SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORS.
10:02:39 AND THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY AFTER ATTENDING THE
10:02:43 MEETING, WE DO APPRECIATE ALL OF STAFF'S WORK TO
10:02:48 ADDRESS AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS
10:02:51 THE CONCERNS OF THE SOUTH OF CANDY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:02:55 I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ELIMINATING F.A.R. SOUTH OF
10:02:56 CANDY.
10:03:00 WE KNOW THAT ANY SOLUTION ISN'T PERFECT, BUT AFTER
10:03:06 HEARING THOSE CONCERNS, WE DO FEEL LIKE ELIMINATING THE
10:03:10 F.A.R. SOUTH OF GANDY CAN BE A VERY GOOD FIRST STEP IN
10:03:11 ADDRESSING SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.
10:03:16 WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE MIXED USE REQUIREMENT,
10:03:20 AND WANT TO BE SURE IT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND
10:03:23 THE LAND BAR IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD
10:03:28 WITH RESPECT TO HOW THAT MIXED USE IS APPLIED.
10:03:31 WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CITY WIDE APPLICATION
10:03:33 OF THE F.A.R.
10:03:38 AFTER FRIDAY'S MEETING, WE STARTED TO LOOK AND REALLY
10:03:43 THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPLICATIONS AND WE ARE
10:03:47 CONCERNED OF AREAS THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED AS URBAN
10:03:50 VILLAGES WHERE YOU WANT DENSITY TO BE LOCATED.
10:03:55 THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN IMPEDIMENT TO AFFORDABILITY,
10:03:58 LIMITS THE ABILITY TO DERIVE DENSITY TO THE AREAS --
10:04:01 THE AREAS THAT WE KNOW DENSITY IS ENCOURAGED.
10:04:05 SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER LIMITING THIS F.A.R.
10:04:10 ELIMINATION TO THE AREA WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY SENT TO
10:04:14 ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WHICH IS THE SOUTH OF GANDY
10:04:17 NEIGHBORHOOD AND IF THERE IS AN INTENT TO MOVE FORWARD
10:04:23 WITH A CITYWIDE LIMITATION, I WOULD ENCOURAGE CITY AND
10:04:25 STAFF TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS
10:04:28 THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY
10:04:32 IMPORTANT AND WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE ENCOURAGED AND
10:04:34 WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WORKING ON SOLUTIONS FOR THIS
10:04:34 ISSUE.
10:04:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH..
10:04:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:43 NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER MOTSINGER.
10:04:46 >>CLERK: JENNIFER, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, UNMUTE
10:04:48 YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:04:52 >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JENNIFER
10:04:56 MOTSINGER, REPRESENTING THOSE WHO BUILT THE AMERICAN
10:04:57 DREAM OF HOMEOWNERSHIP.
10:05:07 I AGREE WERE THAT THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE COMP TERM
10:05:32 AMENDMENT PROCESS WANT CERTAINTY.
10:05:36 THEY NEED CERTAINTY OR THEY WON'T NEED THE VALUE OF
10:05:37 INVESTING HERE.
10:05:41 AND TBA HAVE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT IN THAT REQUEST OF AT
10:05:44 LEAST 30-DAY COMMUNICATION BEFORE ANY CHANGE IN POLICY
10:05:47 OR PROCESS TAKES PLACE.
10:05:52 AND THAT EFFECTS A LOT OF RESOURCES ON BOTH SIDES OF
10:05:55 THE AISLE AND IT IS JUST PROFESSIONAL COURTESY.
10:06:00 I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PART OF A PROCESS THAT IS MORE
10:06:05 TRADITIONAL IN NATURE ON THESE POLICY ISSUES AND I DO
10:06:07 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME MORNING.
10:06:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MISS MOTSINGER.
10:06:14 WHO OUR NEXT SPEAKER.
10:06:19 >>CLERK: NEXT IS ANN KULIG.
10:06:20 IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:06:22 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:06:23 THANK YOU.
10:06:27 ANN KULIG, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WEST SHORE
10:06:30 ALLIANCE AND ALSO TO SPEAK ON ITEM 46.
10:06:33 AGAIN, AS THE OTHER SPEAKERS SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO
10:06:36 THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS.
10:06:39 CHALLENGING TO BALANCE THE CONCERNS OF SO MANY
10:06:41 DIFFERENT PARTIES.
10:06:44 THEIR APPROACH THROUGH THE COMP PLAN PROCESS IS MUCH
10:06:47 BETTER THAN INSTITUTING A SHORT-TERM MORATORIUM.
10:06:49 YOU KNOW OTHERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT AFTER
10:06:52 REVIEWING THE STAFF PROPOSAL, I DO THINK WE NEED TO
10:06:56 CONSIDER EXEMPTING THE MAJOR PLANNING AREAS, CENTRAL
10:07:02 TAMPA, WEST SHORE, UNIVERSITY AREA THAT ENCOMPASSES
10:07:07 NORTH TAMPA HEIGHTS AND COMP PLAN SAYS WE WANT GROWTH
10:07:09 AND GROWTH IS APPROPRIATE.
10:07:14 ANY CHANGES OF REDUCE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IN THE AREA
10:07:18 IS COUNTER TO WHAT YOU SAY YOU WANT IN YOUR COMP PLAN.
10:07:20 THE LAND CATEGORIES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THESE CHANGES,
10:07:28 THE UMU-60, THE CC-35, THE CCU-35 MAKE UP A RELATIVELY
10:07:32 SMALL PORTION OF THE MAJOR PLANNING DISTRICTS AND ALL
10:07:37 OF THEM ARE ADJACENT TO EXISTING TRANSIT CORRIDORS
10:07:40 EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE ENCOURAGING EXACTLY MORE
10:07:41 RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
10:07:46 I UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S PROPOSAL PROVIDES FOR GETTING
10:07:52 THAT F.A.R. DENSITY, BUT I CONTEND THESE MAJOR PLANNING
10:07:55 AREAS ARE ALREADY MIXED USE DISTRICTS.
10:08:01 THEY HAVE A VARIETY OF RETAIL, OFFICE, HOTEL USES.
10:08:04 I KNOW IN THE CASE OF WEST SHORE, WE HAVE PLENTY OF
10:08:05 THOSE USES.
10:08:08 THE USE WE NEED MORE OF IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
10:08:11 THE COMP PLAN SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS ATTRACTING MORE
10:08:13 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO WEST SHORE.
10:08:15 AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:08:18 WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE CITY ADMINISTRATION'S APPROACH
10:08:22 OF USING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO DO THIS.
10:08:24 HOWEVER, AS OTHERS HAVE STATED, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS
10:08:30 THAT USING THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE EFFECTIVELY
10:08:32 BECOMES A MORATORIUM IMMEDIATELY.
10:08:36 SO, AGAIN, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT COMP PLAN PROCESS.
10:08:39 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXEMPTIONS FOR THE MAJOR PLANS
10:08:41 DISTRICTS WHERE YOU ALREADY DETERMINED THAT GROWTH IS
10:08:46 APPROPRIATE AND REALLY, IF YOU CAN, WE WOULD PREFER IN
10:08:48 NOT GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
10:08:50 WE DON'T THINK THERE HAS BEEN ENOUGH NOTICE OR
10:08:53 DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF THE AFFECTED CITYWIDE AREAS.
10:08:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:08:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:08:58 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:09:00 GO AHEAD.
10:09:03 >>CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVE MICHELINI.
10:09:06 MR. MICHELINI, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE
10:09:08 YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:09:10 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:09:11 STEVE MICHELINI.
10:09:15 I THINK THAT EVERYONE AGREES THAT WE -- WE ARE POSITIVE
10:09:19 ABOUT THE APPROACH REGARDING LOOKING AT THE
10:09:24 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
10:09:27 AND COLLECTING THE DATA NECESSARY.
10:09:29 WHAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH IS THE IMMEDIATE ADOPTION OF
10:09:36 ALL OF THE ACTIONS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN AND WE ARE
10:09:39 ASKING YOU NOT TO MAKE THIS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
10:09:43 AGAIN, EXCLUDE THE URBAN VILLAGE AS ANN AND SOME OF THE
10:09:44 OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT.
10:09:47 THIS IS WHERE YOU DIRECTED GROWTH TO OCCUR.
10:09:50 AND THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION OUTSIDE OF THE SOUTH
10:09:54 OF GANDY AREA THAT ANY PROPOSAL WILL BE AFFECTING THEM
10:09:59 AT ALL.
10:10:03 WE WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THE APPLICATION IN SECTION TWO
10:10:06 THAT THE CITY WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY REZONING APPLICATIONS
10:10:07 EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
10:10:11 WE WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE
10:10:12 SPELLED OUT.
10:10:16 IT REFERS BACK TO SECTION ONE, BUT IT IS NOT CLEAR
10:10:25 EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK BUT DO YOU JEOPARDIZE
10:10:29 DOWNTOWN, YBOR CITY, USF, EAST TAMPA AND ALL OF THE
10:10:33 INFILL AREAS YOU DESIGNATED ALREADY AS BEING IN NEED OF
10:10:41 REDEVELOPMENT PARTICULARLY FOR MULTIFAMILY.
10:10:43 GO AHEAD, TRANSMIT THIS DOCUMENT TO THE PLANNING
10:10:46 COMMISSION SO WE CAN BEGIN THE STUDIES, THE BASE
10:10:49 DECISIONS AND COLLECT THE DATA NECESSARY TO MAKE AN
10:10:52 INFORMED DECISION.
10:10:55 AND AT THIS POINT, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY DEMONSTRATED
10:10:58 URGENCY REGARDING THIS PLAN OF WHY IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED
10:11:02 IMMEDIATELY AND WHY IT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO EFFECT
10:11:02 TODAY.
10:11:06 IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PROJECT TODAY, THEN YOU ARE
10:11:08 BASICALLY SHUT OUT.
10:11:11 SO THERE ARE SOME TWEAKING THAT WE WOULD REALLY
10:11:14 APPRECIATE IN HERE, AND THAT IS, AGAIN, EXCLUDES THE
10:11:18 URBAN VILLAGES, ELIMINATE THE PENDING ORDINANCE WHERE
10:11:20 IT WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
10:11:24 AND CLARIFY THE F.A.R. ELIGIBILITY AND HOW IT WOULD BE
10:11:29 APPLIED TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT THANK ARE NOT
10:11:31 NECESSARILY MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.
10:11:34 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
10:11:35 YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:11:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:39 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:11:44 >>CLERK: NEXT WEEK IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:11:48 MISS BENNETT, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, YOU HAVE THREE
10:11:48 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:11:51 >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:11:54 I AM A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
10:11:57 THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH COMPANY ARE CONCERNED AND
10:12:00 STRESSED OF THE FEEDING FRENZY OF GROWTH THAT IS
10:12:03 OCCURRING ON OUR FLOOD-PRONE PENINSULA.
10:12:06 OUR CONCERN IS FOCUSED ON THE HE CAN IMPLOSION OF LARGE
10:12:07 APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
10:12:09 SOUTH TAMPA IS A SUBURB.
10:12:13 AND THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY OUTLINES
10:12:17 FOUR REASONS WHY IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR URBANIZATION.
10:12:19 REPRESENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR A
10:12:23 YEAR AND A HALF TO ENFORCE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF
10:12:26 THE COMP PLAN THAT GROWTH SHOULD BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM
10:12:29 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND EVACUATION TIMES
10:12:32 SHOULD BE MAINTAINED OR REDUCED WHICH CERTAINLY IS NOT
10:12:33 HAPPENING.
10:12:38 ESSENTIALLY, WE WANT GROWTH TO OCCUR WHERE IT IS
10:12:39 BENEFICIAL AND NOT HARMFUL.
10:12:42 THE EXACT GOALS OF THE COMP PLAN AND A VISION ALL OF
10:12:43 THE CITY'S DEPARTMENTS.
10:12:48 RECENTLY IT WAS SAID WE DO NOT REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS
10:12:52 OF SOUTH TAMPA THAT WE ARE A FEW MALCONTENTS AND ONLY
10:12:53 REPRESENT OUR OWN VIEWS.
10:12:56 OUR NEIGHBORS FOUND OUT THEY RESPONDED AND RESPONDED
10:12:57 WITH A VENGEANCE.
10:13:04 CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS FLOODED WITH
10:13:05 PHONE CALLS.
10:13:08 THIS HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MORE IF THE PHONE LINES DID
10:13:09 NOT GO DOWN.
10:13:11 CITIZENS WANT TO BE HEARD AND PROTECTED.
10:13:14 CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT PATIENTLY LISTENED TO ALL
10:13:15 OF OUR CONCERNS.
10:13:19 LAST FRIDAY, MAYOR CASTOR AND CHIEF BENNETT AND CAROLE
10:13:23 POST AND MANY DEPARTMENT STAFF MET WITH THE
10:13:26 NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY LISTENED.
10:13:29 I AM ENCOURAGED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE MAYOR,
10:13:32 CHIEF OF STAFF, THE CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEIR
10:13:32 STAFF.
10:13:34 I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:13:37 UP TRULY BELIEVE YOU CARE ABOUT THE RESIDENTS AND YOU
10:13:40 WANT TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR US AS A WHOLE.
10:13:44 ITEM NUMBER 46 IS THE FIRST STEP PROVE TICKETING SOUTH
10:13:47 TAMPA RESIDENTS OF DEADLY HURRICANES AND CHARACTER OF
10:13:50 THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE
10:13:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:13:52 NO REASON TO DELAY THIS.
10:13:54 THIS IS NOT A MORATORIUM.
10:13:56 THE MORATORIUM IS WHAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE
10:13:57 DONE.
10:14:00 I ASK YOU TO YOU VOTE YES ON ITEM 46 AND TABLE AN
10:14:03 ACTUAL MORATORIUM FOR SIX MONTHS TO GIVE CITY STAFF
10:14:06 TIME TO WORK ON ISSUES WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THEM.
10:14:10 I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE MAYOR AND ALL OF THE STAFF
10:14:12 FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND ATTENTION TO OUR CONCERNS.
10:14:13 THANK YOU.
10:14:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:15 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:14:21 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:14:23 IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:14:24 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:14:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:14:27 GO AHEAD.
10:14:33 >> HELLO, JEAN STROHMEYER, PRESIDENT OF INTERBAY SOUTH
10:14:33 OF GANDY ORGANIZATION.
10:14:36 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING TO THE TABLE
10:14:40 LAST FRIDAY, FINALLY, AFTER A YEAR OF CONVERSATIONS OF
10:14:41 CONVERSATIONS AND MEDIATIONS.
10:14:43 WE FINALLY CAME TOGETHER.
10:14:47 THIS INCLUDES THOSE FROM THE DEVELOPER SIDE, MR.
10:14:49 LOEHMANN AND ATTORNEY CASTILE.
10:14:53 WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE TO EYE TO EYE BUT SHOULD WORK
10:14:56 TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS BEFORE LITIGATION.
10:14:59 WE ALL KNOW THERE WILL ALWAYS BE "THAT GUY."
10:15:02 LET'S NOT BE "THAT GUY."
10:15:07 CITY STAFF NOT LIMITED TO OUR CITY ATTORNEYS CATE WELLS
10:15:13 AND GINA GRIMES FOR US WE THE PEOPLE AND CITY COUNCIL
10:15:15 AND THE EXEC BRANCH.
10:15:21 A HUGE THANK YOU FOR MARIE HOLMES.
10:15:26 I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HER FOR COMMENDATION COMMENT
10:15:29 BEHALF OF OUR SOG ORGANIZATION.
10:15:33 WE WANT TO THANK ABBYE FEELEY, RANDY GOER, CHIEF OF
10:15:37 STAFF JOHN BENNETT, CAROLE POST AND THE MAYOR FOR COME
10:15:40 TOGETHER TABLE WITH US AND LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AS
10:15:43 IT RELATES TO SOUTH TAMPA, MORE SPECIFICALLY SOG.
10:15:46 WE NEED IT TO BE HEARD, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE NEEDED
10:15:47 ACTION.
10:15:49 WITH THAT SAID, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON MANY
10:15:55 ISSUES AFFECTING THE PENINSULA, ESPECIALLY SOG.
10:15:57 THOSE ASKING AND SAYING THAT NOT BEING EFFECTIVE
10:16:00 IMMEDIATELY -- THOSE -- DOES NOT CHANGE THE PROJECTS
10:16:02 ALREADY ZONED AND UNDER WAY.
10:16:05 THAT IS INCORRECT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
10:16:08 FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THINGS ON A
10:16:11 CASE-BY-CASE BASIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
10:16:13 IT IS NOT A BLANKET FOR EVERYBODY.
10:16:17 BUT TODAY, WE ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO NOT KILL THE MOTION
10:16:22 MORATORIUM BUT TO SHELVE IT FOR SIX MONTHS TO ASSESS
10:16:24 HOW THINGS ARE GOING WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL GIVE
10:16:27 US THE CONFIDENCE TO DO AWAY WITH THE MOTION ALL
10:16:28 TOGETHER.
10:16:32 FOR NOW, I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION AS PROPOSED MARCH 30
10:16:36 PENDING ANY REVISION BUSINESS OUR WISE AND STUDIOUS
10:16:38 CITY COUNCILMAN.
10:16:40 VOTE YES FOR NUMBER 46.
10:16:41 THANK YOU, GUYS.
10:16:42 AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:16:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:16:50 NEXT SPEAKER, STEPHANIE POYNOR OR SHAWN BROWN.
10:16:52 >>CLERK: IT WILL BE SHAWN BROWN.
10:16:54 IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU
10:16:55 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:16:57 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
10:16:59 CAN ALL OF YOU HEAR ME?
10:17:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
10:17:05 >> GOOD MORNING, SHAWN BROWN, PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY
10:17:06 CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:17:08 HERE SPEAKING ON ITEM 46 ON AGENDA.
10:17:11 AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, FOR MANY MONTHS MUCH BACK AND FORTH
10:17:13 ON THE SUBJECT OF A MORATORIUM.
10:17:17 WHAT NO ONE REALLY TRULY WANTED THIS AS A SOLUTION FOR
10:17:18 THE PROBLEMS OF SOG.
10:17:21 ALL TOO LONG IT SEEMED LIKE THIS IS ALL WE WERE GOING
10:17:22 TO GET.
10:17:24 THE MAYOR, CHIEF OF STAFF AND KEY MEMBERS OF THE
10:17:28 MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION AND VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE
10:17:29 DEPARTMENT TO LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS.
10:17:32 THAT WAS A BREAKTHROUGH MEETING AND THAT WAS LONG -- I
10:17:35 EMPHASIZE LONG OVERDUE.
10:17:38 THE NEARLY 100 PEOPLE THAT CALLED TWO WEEKS AGO FOR THE
10:17:40 MARCH 18 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
10:17:41 THEIR VOICE WAS HEARD.
10:17:44 THE PEOPLE TOOK THE TIME TO E-MAIL CITY COUNCIL AND THE
10:17:46 MAYOR, THEIR VOICE WAS HEARD.
10:17:49 THE REALIZATION THAT THE FIGHT ALL OF US COME FORTH WAS
10:17:53 NOT JUST FROM SIX DISGRUNTLED PEOPLE.
10:17:56 IT CONTINUES TO BE ON BEHALF OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
10:18:00 WHAT ALL OF YOU EXPERIENCED AS A SNAPSHOT FROM MANY
10:18:01 FRUSTRATED PEOPLE.
10:18:03 THE DEVELOPERS HAVE MENTIONED THIS HE NEED TIME.
10:18:05 THEY WANT TIME GO OVER THIS.
10:18:08 TIME DO STUDIES THERE ARE AND THAT.
10:18:12 WELL, TIME IS NOT NO LONGER ON OUR SIDE, QUITE FRANKLY.
10:18:15 AND TO JUST ADD MORE TIME TO SOMETHING IS GOING TO KICK
10:18:18 THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD EVEN FURTHER UNTIL MORE
10:18:22 DEVELOPMENTS CAN COME IN AND BY THEN, IT IS JUST -- IT
10:18:23 WILL BECOME TOO LATE.
10:18:26 AT THIS POINT, IT IS EASY TO KICK THE CAN, A LOT HARDER
10:18:28 TO ACTUALLY ENACT SOLUTIONS.
10:18:31 SO ANYWAY, WE DISCUSSED A LOT OF THINGS AT THE MEETING,
10:18:34 TRANSPORTATION, DEVELOPMENT, COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
10:18:35 AND SUCH.
10:18:37 WE PRESENTED 14 DIFFERENT ITEMS TO THE CITY THAT WE
10:18:41 WANT TO SEE ACTION ON THAT WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF
10:18:44 LIFE FOR EVERYONE IN SOG AND SOUTH TAMPA.
10:18:47 THE CITY LISTENED AND IMMEDIATELY PROPOSED BRINGING
10:18:51 FORTH THIS RESOLUTION TO SUSPEND F.A.R. FOR ALL
10:18:57 SINGLE-USE RESIDENTIAL APPLICATIONS WITHIN THE UMU-65
10:19:01 AND CC-35.
10:19:02 AND THE FIRST TIME ON THE LIST.
10:19:05 IN ADDITION, WE TRY WITH CITY COUNCIL HAVING THE
10:19:07 DISCRETION TO DETERMINE MIXED USE BECAUSE QUITE
10:19:12 FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE PROJECTS CREATE JOBS.
10:19:13 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED.
10:19:16 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WORK
10:19:17 CLOSELY.
10:19:22 AND IF -- AS ONE DEVELOPER, THEY WANT THESE PROJECTS TO
10:19:23 REDUCE COLLUSION.
10:19:26 YOU WANT TO TAKE CARS OFF THE ROAD INSTEAD OF
10:19:30 INCREASING DRIVE -- DRIVE TIMES OR FREQUENCY OF HAVING
10:19:31 TO BE ON THE ROADS.
10:19:35 ANYWAY, AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION TO THE PROPOSED
10:19:38 MORATORIUM AND I AGREE WITH WHAT THE CITY BROUGHT -- IS
10:19:42 GOING TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU AND I WILL DO ALSO AGREE
10:19:44 THAT THE MORATORIUM.
10:19:46 THE ORIGINAL MOTION WILL BE POSTPONED FOR SIX MONTHS TO
10:19:51 SEE HOW THINGS MOVE FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS
10:19:52 THE VARIOUS ISSUES.
10:19:55 I DO WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,
10:19:59 CHIEF BENNETT AND MANY OTHERS FOR MEETING WITH US AND
10:20:00 LISTENING.
10:20:02 THEIR HARD WORK IS GREATLY APPRECIATED AND WE CERTAINLY
10:20:05 LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR WORKING RELATIONSHIP
10:20:06 WITH THEM.
10:20:07 THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
10:20:08 APPRECIATE IT.
10:20:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:12 NEXT SPEAK HER IN.
10:20:16 >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:20:19 STEPHANIE, IF YOU ARE ON LINE, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU
10:20:20 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:20:22 >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
10:20:24 THE MORATORIUM.
10:20:26 LET'S CALL THE ELEPHANT WHAT IT IS.
10:20:29 THROWN OUT THERE BY STAFF AND WE TOOK HOLD OF IT AS
10:20:31 SOMETHING WE COULD UNDERSTAND AND DIGEST.
10:20:32 WE ARE NOT EXPERTS.
10:20:37 AS IT POINTED OUT REPEATEDLY BY THOSE WHO ARE.
10:20:40 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER 18 MONTHS NOW.
10:20:43 WE ASSUMED IT WOULD TURN OFF THE FIRE HOSE LONG ENOUGH
10:20:49 TO SEE THE PROJECTS AND PROCESS -- COMPLETED PRIOR --
10:20:51 PRIOR TO YOU APPROVING MORE.
10:20:53 WHAT DO WE WANT?
10:20:57 STOP BUILDING MONSTER APARTMENTS IN SOG.
10:20:58 I DIDN'T SAY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:21:01 I JUST SAID SOG.
10:21:06 I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MISS BATSEL ON THAT ONE.
10:21:09 I BELIEVE THAT THE AUTOMOTIVE PRESENTATION TODAY THAT
10:21:14 WILL BE BROUGHT BY CITY STAFF, THE ELIMINATE NATION OF
10:21:16 F.A.R. IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
10:21:19 WE PRESENTED A LIST OF 14 ITEMS TO STAFF LAST FRIDAY,
10:21:23 AND -- BUT WE ARE REASONABLE ADULTS AND REALIZE WE
10:21:25 WON'T ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING WE ASK FOR.
10:21:28 BUT IF WE ASK FOR NOTHING, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL GET.
10:21:30 SO WE HAVE TO ASK.
10:21:32 CAROLE POST WENT THROUGH THE LIST.
10:21:35 SHE NOTED THE RESPONSES TO EACH ITEM.
10:21:39 NOT ONE WAS CALLED RIDICULOUS OR UNREASONABLE.
10:21:43 THEY WERE IMMEDIATELY CATEGORY EASED AND VERBALLY GIVEN
10:21:45 OWNERSHIP BY STAFF IN ONE WAY THE OTHER.
10:21:49 WE WOULD LIKE CITY STAFF TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THIS LIST
10:21:51 PRIOR TO PUSHING FORWARD WITH THE MORATORIUM.
10:21:53 WE ARE NOT SAYING THROW IT OUT.
10:21:57 WE ARE SAYING LET'S PUT IT ON THE BACK BURNER AND
10:21:58 REVISE AT THIS TIME IN SIX MONTHS.
10:22:02 LET'S GIVE STAFF A CHANCE TO DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY
10:22:03 WOULD DO FOR US.
10:22:05 WE HAVE THE MAYOR AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE.
10:22:08 LET US ALLOW HER TO LEAD STAFF TO GET THESE PROBLEMS
10:22:09 FIXED.
10:22:14 STOP BUILDING MONSTER APARTMENTS IN SOG.
10:22:16 I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE NONE
10:22:21 OF HOUSE ARE SPEAKING HERE TODAY AS ADVOCATES FOR SOG
10:22:24 HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF OTHER AREAS.
10:22:27 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THEY TALKED OF URBAN
10:22:33 VILLAGES, CRA, CHANNELSIDE, INFILL AREAS AND ALL OF
10:22:35 THESE THINGS WHERE THE COMMUNITY HAVE THEIR OWN
10:22:38 DESIGNATION AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO PROTECT US.
10:22:40 WE HAVE ASKED ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS AND NOBODY HAS
10:22:42 GIVEN US ANY KIND OF PROTECTION.
10:22:46 WE DO JUST WANT FOLKS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE LIVE IN AN
10:22:54 UNIQUE GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.
10:23:00 OH, AND I SECOND EVERYTHING THAT JEAN SAID.
10:23:00 KUDOS.
10:23:02 I CAN'T NAME EVERYBODY'S NAME IN THREE MINUTES.
10:23:03 THANK YOU.
10:23:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:07 NEXT SPEAKER.
10:23:10 >>CLERK: CHAIR, THE NEXT SPEAKER WAS MATTHEW
10:23:14 YAMPOLSKY, BUT HE DID NOT CALL IN TO PARTICIPATE SO
10:23:17 THAT WILL CONCLUDE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
10:23:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:21 BEFORE WE GO INTO THE AGENDA, WE WILL BREAK FOR LUNCH
10:23:24 AT 12:00 AND COME BACK AT 1:30 TODAY.
10:23:27 12:00 AND 1:30 TODAY.
10:23:33 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:23:36 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, GOING TO NUMBER THREE.
10:23:38 I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF.
10:23:40 MY COMPANY HAS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE OF THE
10:23:43 PARTIES INVOLVED AND I WOULD LIKE FOR -- TO MAKE A
10:23:46 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MY FOR AND I WILL LEAVE THE
10:23:47 ROOM.
10:23:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
10:23:53 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO FILE THE FORM BY
10:23:54 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:23:55 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:23:56 AYE.
10:24:06 FOR ITEMS THREE AND FOUR, SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCES JUST
10:24:09 WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, ITEM NUMBER THREE.
10:24:11 >>ELAINE LUND: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:24:15 ELAINE LUND WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF IS HERE.
10:24:19 I'M HERE FOR ITEMS THREE AND FOUR, BOTH HISTORIC
10:24:22 PROPERTY PRESENTATION.
10:24:24 WE WILL HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION FOR YOU AT THE SECOND
10:24:25 READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
10:24:28 I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:24:28 THANK YOU.
10:24:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
10:24:30 TIME?
10:24:34 ALL RIGHT.
10:24:37 WHO WOULD LIKE READ ITEM NUMBER THREE.
10:24:37 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:24:41 REMEMBER THIS IS THE SUBSTITUTE THAT IS HERE ON THE
10:24:42 ADDENDA.
10:24:49 >> FILE NUMBER E2021-8 CH 27.
10:24:51 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION AN ORDINANCE APPROVING
10:24:54 A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EARNINGS
10:25:00 APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR
10:25:04 REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY YBOR MARTI
10:25:10 LOCATED AT 1302 EAST 7TH AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:25:13 THE NOTICE OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, PROVIDING FOR
10:25:17 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10:25:21 CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:25:25 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY MIRANDA.
10:25:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:25:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:25:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:25:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:25:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:25:37 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
10:25:41 ABSTAINING.
10:25:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:25:44 THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:25:46 SAME THING.
10:25:55 A SUBSTITUTE ON THAT ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:25:57 >>ELAINE LUND: AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBERS, ELAINE LUND,
10:25:59 HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
10:26:02 WITH THIS ITEM WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU AT
10:26:04 THE SECOND MEETING.
10:26:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:26:09 HEARING AND SEEING NONE.
10:26:14 COUNCILMAN CITRO, READ A SUBSTITUTE FOR ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:26:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER E 2021-8 CH 27.
10:26:22 I MOVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
10:26:25 READING FOR APPROVING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY
10:26:29 TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
10:26:32 RENOVATION, REHABILITATION OF A CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED
10:26:39 BY SIGHT BF FLATS, LCC, LOCATED AT 3108 NORTH JEFFERSON
10:26:42 STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC
10:26:48 DISTRICT BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR
10:26:50 NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH
10:26:53 COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR
10:26:58 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR
10:27:00 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO AND
10:27:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:05 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:27:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:27:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:27:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:27:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:27:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:27:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:27:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:27:20 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:27:25 SECOND READING AN ADOPTION MAY 6, 2021 AT 9:30 A.M. IN
10:27:27 ADDITION TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:27:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:27:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:34 WE GO TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION ITEMS 5-6.
10:27:34 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:27:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL MOVE ITEMS 5 AND 6.
10:27:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:27:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
10:27:43 CITRO.
10:27:44 ROLL CALL.
10:27:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:27:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:27:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:27:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:27:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:27:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:27:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:27:56 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:27:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:00 NEXT IS PARKS AND REC.
10:28:01 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:28:02 ITEM 7-13.
10:28:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEMS 7-13.
10:28:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:28:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:28:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:28:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:28:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:28:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:28:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:28:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:28:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:28:24 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:28:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT.
10:28:27 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:28:28 14-18.
10:28:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:28:33 BEFORE I MOVE THOSE ITEMS, I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT
10:28:38 TO OUR STAFF, SPECIFICALLY MR. BENNETT, MR. HART, MR.
10:28:47 BAIRD, AND MR. CHUCRAN AND MISS DUNCAN WITH BBE ISSUES.
10:28:50 WE FUSS AT THEM WHEN THINGS AREN'T GOING GOOD, BUT A
10:28:54 COUPLE OF ITEMS WORTH MENTIONING.
10:28:56 ITEM 17 IS A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
10:28:59 100% DBE COMPANY.
10:29:02 AND ITEM 31 IS $200,000.
10:29:09 THAT IS 100% BBE PARTICIPATION.
10:29:11 ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
10:29:13 I MOVE ITEMS 14-18.
10:29:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:29:16 DINGFELDER.
10:29:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:29:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:29:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO -- BEFORE I
10:29:31 CAST MY VOTE -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE A LITTLE MENTION.
10:29:36 I WAS -- EARLIER TO SEND BRAD BAIRD A LITTLE
10:29:40 CONGRATULATIONS AND CHIEF BENNETT ALSO TEXTED ME ABOUT
10:29:41 IT.
10:29:43 I AM HAPPY WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND
10:29:47 FROM THE TEXT I GOT, GREATER WORK FOR ON THESE ISSUE SO
10:29:48 AS I VOTE YES.
10:29:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:29:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:29:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:29:56 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:29:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:59 19-22.
10:30:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 19-22.
10:30:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
10:30:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
10:30:07 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:30:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:30:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:30:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:30:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:30:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:30:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:30:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:30:20 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:30:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:24 BUILDING AND ZONING, 23-30.
10:30:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 23-30.
10:30:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
10:30:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:30:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:30:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:30:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:30:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:30:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:30:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:30:43 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:30:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH
10:30:46 ITEM 31.
10:30:49 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE ITEM 31.
10:30:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
10:30:52 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:54 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:30:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:30:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:30:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:30:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:31:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:31:01 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:31:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:31:06 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:10 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD HIS HAND
10:31:11 UP FIRST.
10:31:14 >>BILL CARLSON: WANT TO SAY REAL FAST 23-30.
10:31:20 BUDGETING IN THERE FOR DEALING WITH HOMELESS
10:31:22 POPULATIONS.
10:31:25 I HAD MEETING WITH CHIEF OF STAFF AND JUST ABOUT EVERY
10:31:27 DEPARTMENT HEAD AND HE HAS EXPERIENCE WITH THIS IN
10:31:33 PINELLAS COUNTY AND FLYING EARNEST WITH MAYOR AND STAFF
10:31:38 TO HELP EVERYBODY TO TRANSITION FINDING A PLACE TO
10:31:38 LIVE.
10:31:40 I APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS IN DOING THAT.
10:31:40 THANK YOU.
10:31:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:44 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:31:48 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD GENERAL INQUIRY ON 13, THE ROUGH
10:31:50 RIDERS MEMORIAL PARADE.
10:31:55 HAVE THE ROUGH RIDERS EVER DID THE MEMORIAL DAY PARADE?
10:31:57 COUNCILMAN CITRO, I KNOW YOU ARE INVOLVED.
10:31:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, WE HAVEN'T.
10:32:02 WE -- THE ROUGH RIDERS ARE NOT MAKING UP, BUT WE WOULD
10:32:05 LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK IN THE GAME AS
10:32:06 FAR AS PARADES GO.
10:32:07 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:32:10 I WAS GOING -- WE CAN URGE YOU AND WORK ON THIS.
10:32:13 BECAUSE THIS ISN'T ANYTHING THAT SUNSHINE, BUT MAKE
10:32:16 SURE THAT BE IN TOUCH WITH THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES.
10:32:21 BECAUSE I -- WHEN I SAW THAT I WAS INTERESTED BECAUSE I
10:32:24 NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE AND YOU TEXTED A FEW AND THEY
10:32:27 HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
10:32:31 ROUGH RIDER FRIENDS GET IN TOUCH WITH THE GOLD STAR
10:32:33 COMMUNITY WITH THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW MEMORIAL DAY IS A
10:32:38 DAY TO MOURN AND A VERY SERIOUS AND SOMBER DAY, AND I
10:32:41 AM SURE THAT THE PARADE WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
10:32:42 MY THOUGHTS, THANK YOU.
10:32:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I WILL -- IF YOU COULD PLEASE
10:32:47 GIVE ME THE CONTACTS, I WILL PASS THAT ON TO OUR
10:32:48 CURRENT PRESIDENT.
10:32:52 YOU KNOW, ST. PADDY'S DAY PARADE IS USUALLY THE ROUGH
10:32:55 RIDER PARADE, AND WE TAKE PRIDE IN THAT.
10:32:58 BUT THEY WERE CONTEMPLATING ONE PARADE FOR THE WHOLE
10:33:00 CITY OF TAMPA, AND I THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE CALLED
10:33:07 THE CINCO DE MAYO, GASPARILLA, AND FOURTH OF JULY
10:33:09 PARADE AND SOMETHING CONSIDERED.
10:33:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:33:13 >>LUIS VIERA: I AM BEING HONEST.
10:33:17 IF THIS PARADE WILL BE A BIG, HAPPY-GO-LUCKY PARADE,
10:33:20 THE CITY IS GOING TO BE HEARING FROM A LOT OF VETERANS
10:33:21 GROUPS AND RIGHTFULLY SO.
10:33:24 I KNOW IT IS NOT GOING TO BE BUT JUST AGAIN, MY TWO
10:33:25 CENTS.
10:33:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:28 A MOTION TO OPEN.
10:33:34 ITEM NUMBER 32 THROUGH 39.
10:33:36 OPEN THE 10:30.
10:33:36 MOTION AND SECOND.
10:33:38 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:33:45 ITEM NUMBER 32, THESE ARE ALL SECOND READINGS.
10:33:47 WE WILL BEGIN.
10:33:50 MR. MANASSE.
10:33:52 >> ITEM 32 IS A VACATING.
10:33:54 BARBARA LYNCH.
10:33:57 SECOND READING FOR VAC 20-13.
10:34:02 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:34:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
10:34:08 DO WE HAVE THE PETITIONER ON THE LINE FOR THIS?
10:34:10 ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES
10:34:14 TO SPEAK ON ITEM 32?
10:34:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:34:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
10:34:23 GUDES -- WAIT, MR. RYAN MANASSE.
10:34:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: FOR THE RECORD, RYAN MANASSE -- WE
10:34:28 HAVE TO BE SWORN IN FOR THIS SECOND READING.
10:34:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, I
10:34:34 APOLOGIZE.
10:34:35 OKAY.
10:34:43 MICHELINI, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:34:47 >> I AM.
10:34:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, PLEASE, MR.
10:34:57 MICHELINI.
10:34:58 >> OKAY.
10:35:02 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SOLEMNLY
10:35:03 SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO
10:35:06 GIVE IT THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE
10:35:07 TRUTH.
10:35:08 OKAY.
10:35:09 THANK YOU.
10:35:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:35:16 MR. MICHELINI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
10:35:19 >> THIS -- THIS PETITION WAS SUPPORTED BY ALL OF THE
10:35:20 ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:35:24 WE SUBMITTED 14 PAGES OF POLICE DOCUMENTS REGARDING
10:35:26 INSTANCES.
10:35:30 AND IT IS A SAFETY HAZARD FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY
10:35:34 OWNERS AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND I
10:35:36 WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:35:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
10:35:38 NO?
10:35:41 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS
10:35:43 ITEM?
10:35:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:35:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:35:49 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:35:52 COUNCILMAN VIERA, MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 32.
10:35:53 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
10:35:56 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
10:36:01 ADOPTION ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND
10:36:04 ABANDONING A PORTION OF A RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY LOCATED
10:36:08 SOUTH OF 17TH AVENUE, NORTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE, EAST OF
10:36:12 9TH STREET AND WEST OF 10TH STREET WITHIN THE PLAT OF
10:36:17 BONNIEHAVEN, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:36:19 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
10:36:23 SECTION 1, HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENTS,
10:36:28 RESERVATIONS AND COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS
10:36:32 AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HERE IN PROVIDING AN
10:36:32 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:36:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:36:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:36:41 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:36:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:36:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:36:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:36:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:36:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:36:52 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:37:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 33, APPLICANT JOHN
10:37:00 WOLF.
10:37:03 IF YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
10:37:04 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:37:07 MR. WOLF, IF YOU WERE ON, TURN YOUR CAMERA ON AND
10:37:12 UNMUTE YOURSELF AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:37:15 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SWEAR OR
10:37:17 AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE
10:37:21 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:37:24 >> I DO.
10:37:25 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:37:32 >> ITEM NUMBER 33, FILE NO. VAC 20-14.
10:37:34 BARBARA LYNCH.
10:37:35 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
10:37:41 ALL RIGHT, MR. WOLF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING SIR?
10:37:43 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL AND MISS LYNCH
10:37:45 FOR THE HELP ON THIS.
10:37:49 I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY
10:37:56 REQUEST APPROVAL ON THE SECOND.
10:37:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH
10:38:00 TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 33.
10:38:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:38:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
10:38:06 GUDES.
10:38:11 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:38:14 COUNCILMAN CITRO, READ 33.
10:38:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER VAC 20-14.
10:38:20 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:38:20 ADOPTION.
10:38:24 AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND
10:38:26 ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLEYWAY
10:38:30 LOCATED SOUTH OF LEROY STREET, NORTH OF DEWEY STREET,
10:38:34 EAST OF LINCOLN AVENUE, WEST OF MATANZAS AVENUE WITHIN
10:38:38 THE PLAT OF JOHN H. DREW'S FIRST EXTENSION, A
10:38:41 SUBDIVISION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
10:38:45 FLORIDA, MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF,
10:38:51 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EASEMENTS, RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS,
10:38:54 CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTION AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET
10:38:59 FORTH HEREIN PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:39:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:39:05 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:39:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:39:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:39:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:39:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:39:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
10:39:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:39:17 >>CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND
10:39:19 DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
10:39:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:39:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR ITEM NUMBER
10:39:30 34, APPLICANT OR OTHERWISE?
10:39:34 >>CLERK: I HAD NO ONE REGISTERED ON THAT.
10:39:37 >>RYAN MANASSE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND CITY COUNCIL,
10:39:39 RYAN MANASSE.
10:39:41 FILE NO. REZ 20-41.
10:39:43 WEST EUCLID AVENUE.
10:39:48 ASK TO REZONE FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-60 TO
10:39:49 RS-50.
10:39:53 EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
10:39:56 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OFF THIS.
10:39:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
10:40:01 MR. GRANDOFF IF YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, WE WILL
10:40:03 SWEAR YOU IN.
10:40:05 >> I'M HERE.
10:40:08 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
10:40:10 ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
10:40:11 TRUTH?
10:40:12 >> I DO.
10:40:13 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:40:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:40:23 >> GOOD EVENING -- GOOD MORNING, JOHN GRANDOFF.
10:40:26 REQUESTING APPROVAL OF SECOND READING.
10:40:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:40:29 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK.
10:40:34 I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR 34.
10:40:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:40:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:40:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:40:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES, READ 34.
10:40:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, FILE NO. REZ 20-41
10:40:48 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
10:40:50 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
10:40:54 2912 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:40:57 AND MORE LIKE DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:41:02 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY
10:41:05 TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
10:41:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION.
10:41:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:41:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:41:14 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:41:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:41:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:41:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:41:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:41:23 >>CLERK: CLERK MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:41:25 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:41:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 35, THE BRICKLEMYERS
10:41:29 REGISTERED.
10:41:33 IF YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE CAN SWEAR
10:41:40 YOU IN.
10:41:44 PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES.
10:41:56 >> MY CAMERA IS ON AND I AM UNMUTED.
10:41:58 >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SIR.
10:42:01 >> DO YOU WEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
10:42:03 ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND
10:42:05 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10:42:07 >> IT IS.
10:42:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
10:42:11 MR. MANASSE.
10:42:12 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU.
10:42:17 ITEM NUMBER 35, REZ 20-49.
10:42:20 REZONING THE PROPERTY 2328 WEST SAINT JOHN STREET.
10:42:24 REQUEST BEFORE YOU ON FIRST READING WAS TO REZONE FROM
10:42:28 RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO RM-24 RESIDENTIAL
10:42:29 MULTIFAMILY.
10:42:33 EUCLIDIAN AND NO SITE PLAN NEEDED.
10:42:37 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:42:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
10:42:39 GENTLEMEN?
10:42:41 MR. BRICKELMEYER, GO AHEAD.
10:42:44 >> NOTHING ELSE FOR COUNCIL OTHER THAN WHAT WE COVERED
10:42:46 IN THE PRIOR MEETING.
10:42:49 WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
10:42:49 HAVE.
10:42:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:42:53 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC FOR ITEM NUMBER 35.
10:42:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:42:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:43:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:43:03 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
10:43:04 35.
10:43:09 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE REZ 20-49, SECOND
10:43:13 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:43:17 23 28 WEST ST. JOHN STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:43:21 FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:43:27 FROM ZONING DISTRICT RS-50 TO RM-24 PROVIDING AN
10:43:28 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:43:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:43:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:43:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:43:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:43:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:43:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:43:46 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:43:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 36.
10:43:53 TURN YOUR CAMERAS ON AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:43:56 ALL RIGHT, I SEE MR. COEN.
10:44:09 DO WE HAVE KAMI CORBETT ON THE LINE?
10:44:10 IS SHE -- THERE WE GO.
10:44:13 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS.
10:44:14 WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:44:18 AND WE HAVE -- MR. MECHANIK IS FOR 39 -- OR IS HE --
10:44:19 OKAY.
10:44:21 YOU ARE GOOD.
10:44:24 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:44:26 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:44:29 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:44:30 >> I DO.
10:44:31 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:44:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
10:44:35 MR. MANASSE.
10:44:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:44:40 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
10:44:46 NUMBER 36 REZ 20-65, REZONING THE PROPERTY AT 3815 AND
10:44:51 3825 HENDERSON BOULEVARD AND 1002 SOUTH CHURCH AVENUE
10:44:55 AND 3816 WEST MORRISON AVENUE AND REQUEST FROM PD
10:44:56 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD.
10:45:00 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND CERTIFIED SITE
10:45:03 PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN THE CITY CLERK.
10:45:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:45:05 NO?
10:45:07 ALL RIGHT.
10:45:13 MR. COEN AND MISS CORBETT, WHOEVER WISHES TO PRESENT.
10:45:15 >> GOOD MORNING, RANDY COEN.
10:45:23 KAMI CORBETT HERE AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY
10:45:24 QUESTIONS.
10:45:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO
10:45:27 SPEAK ON ITEM 36?
10:45:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:45:31 >> SECOND.
10:45:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
10:45:36 MIRANDA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:45:38 ALL IN FAVOR.
10:45:41 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
10:45:41 36?
10:45:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REZ 20-65.
10:45:48 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND REAL OF THE
10:45:53 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3815 AND 3825
10:45:57 HENDERSON BOULEVARD, 1002 SOUTH CHURCH AVENUE AND 3816
10:46:01 WEST MORRISON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:46:04 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:46:09 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:46:13 OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL, ADULT
10:46:17 EDUCATION, BANK WITH DRIVE-IN WINDOW, RETAIL SALES
10:46:21 RESIDENTIAL DAYCARE AND POST OFFICE, TO PD, PLANNED
10:46:26 DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, AND MEDICAL,
10:46:30 COLLEGE, BUSINESS/VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, BANK WITH DRIVE IN
10:46:34 WINDOW DAYCARE ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES AND
10:46:35 PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:46:37 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:46:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:46:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:46:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:46:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:46:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:46:47 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:46:49 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:46:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:53 WE OPENED ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND 37 WHICH IS A
10:46:57 REVIEW HEARING.
10:47:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN THE REVIEW HEARINGS.
10:47:02 >> SECOND.
10:47:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY ARE ALREADY OPEN.
10:47:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SORRY.
10:47:06 I TAKE IT BACK.
10:47:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COTTON.
10:47:11 >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD MORNING, ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT
10:47:11 COORDINATION.
10:47:14 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN PLEASE.
10:47:15 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: HOLD ON.
10:47:15 ONE SECOND.
10:47:17 EXCUSE ME, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
10:47:19 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
10:47:22 MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS
10:47:27 BEFORE YOU ON A PETITION FILED BY MICHAEL SICA,
10:47:31 S-I-C-A, THE APPLICANT OF THE SPECIAL USE EXCEPTION
10:47:35 REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7711 DARTMOUTH
10:47:36 AVENUE.
10:47:40 THEY ARE SEEKING REVIEW ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION
10:47:45 DENYING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WHICH REQUESTED
10:47:47 FROM SECTION 27-132.
10:47:50 EARLIER COUNCIL WAS PROVIDED A COPY OF THE HEARING
10:47:52 PROCEDURES FOR TODAY'S REVIEW AS WELL AS SAMPLE
10:47:53 MOTIONS.
10:47:57 FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY'S HEARINGS, CITY COUNCIL APPLIES
10:48:03 TO REVIEW WHICH MEANS YOU ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE RECORD
10:48:06 CREATED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
10:48:11 INSTEAD YOU CAN ACCEPT TESTIMONY AND TAKE NEW EVIDENCE
10:48:15 OF THE APPLICATION MEETING CRITERIA 27-132.
10:48:18 ERIC COTTON WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE RELIEF
10:48:22 REQUESTED IN THE APPLICATION AND THE BASIS FOR THE
10:48:24 CITY'S DECISION.
10:48:26 AFTER CONSIDERING ALL THE EVIDENCE INTRODUCED INTO THE
10:48:29 RECORD OF TODAY'S HEARING, CITY COUNCIL WILL UPHOLD THE
10:48:33 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION AND THEREBY DENY THE
10:48:36 SPECIAL USE OR COUNCIL MAY OVERTURN THE ZONING
10:48:39 ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION AND THEREFORE APPROVE THE
10:48:41 APPLICATION FOR THE SPECIAL USE ONE ACTION.
10:48:44 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN OVER TO MR. COTTON FOR HIS
10:48:45 PRESENTATION.
10:48:48 AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
10:48:48 HAVE.
10:48:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
10:48:51 AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:54 BUT COUNCIL, JUST TO FOLLOW THOSE PROCEDURES, I WOULD
10:48:57 LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY EX-PARTE
10:49:01 WRITTEN DOCUMENTS OR ANY VERBAL EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION
10:49:03 TO PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM INTO THE RECORD.
10:49:06 A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:49:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:49:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
10:49:15 I WILL TRY GET THAT SOONER NEXT CASE.
10:49:18 >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, ERIC
10:49:20 COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:49:22 MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
10:49:24 THANK YOU.
10:49:31 SO AS CAMARIA INDICATED, A REQUEST FOR A ZONING
10:49:37 ADMINISTRATOR APPEAL FOR SU 1-21-16 AT A PROPERTY AT
10:49:42 7711 NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE.
10:49:47 THE CURRENT ZONING RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AND THE
10:49:49 SPECIAL USE FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
10:49:53 THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT
10:49:55 27-132.
10:49:57 COUPLE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
10:50:01 HAS TO BE -- IT CAN NOT EXCEED 950 SQUARE FEET.
10:50:04 AND IT CAN NOT BE IN A STRUCTURE THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY
10:50:08 CONFIRMING OR MAY CONFIRM AS A RESULT OF A VARIANCE.
10:50:13 AS A RESULT, ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE DENIED THE REQUEST.
10:50:18 THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS -- EXCUSE ME?
10:50:20 NO.
10:50:23 THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS PROPOSED WITH THE ACCESSORY
10:50:27 DWELLING UNIT IS 985 SQUARE FEET.
10:50:30 BUILDING INTO AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE -- WITH ADDITIONAL
10:50:38 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
10:50:41 STAFF DENIED REQUEST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET THE
10:50:42 REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.
10:50:47 IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, CITY OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, NORTH
10:50:52 DARTMOUTH CORNER OF DARTMOUTH AND HAMLIN.
10:50:55 AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
10:50:58 WHAT IS SHOWN RIGHT HERE THAT I AM HIGHLIGHTING IS THE
10:50:59 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
10:51:02 IT IS GREATER THAN THE 950 SQUARE FEET.
10:51:06 AND THERE IS AN EXISTING SHED ON THE PROPERTY PROPOSED
10:51:08 TO REMAIN ON THE SITE AS A RESULT.
10:51:11 IT EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED
10:51:14 TO APPROVE THROUGH THE CODE AND AS A RESULT, WE DENIED
10:51:14 THE REQUEST.
10:51:19 THIS IS JUST A FLOORPLAN OF THE PROPOSED DWELLING UNIT.
10:51:23 THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM DARTMOUTH.
10:51:25 A SIDE VIEW PROPERTY.
10:51:28 I BELIEVE THIS IS THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THEY
10:51:31 ARE CONVERTING TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
10:51:34 AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
10:51:36 THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
10:51:38 AGAIN ACROSS THE STREET.
10:51:40 AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
10:51:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON?
10:51:50 NO?
10:51:55 DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE FOR THIS?
10:51:58 >>CLERK: I DID NOT HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED FOR THIS
10:51:59 ITEM.
10:52:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE HERE IN PERSON FOR ITEM
10:52:02 NUMBER 37.
10:52:03 THERE WE GO.
10:52:07 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL -- WE WILL SWEAR YOU
10:52:08 IN.
10:52:11 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY
10:52:13 THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT
10:52:13 THE TRUTH?
10:52:15 >> YES.
10:52:16 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:52:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
10:52:23 >> MY NAME IS PATRICK THORPE, ALLEGEDLY.
10:52:27 MAY I REMOVE MY MASK.
10:52:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALLEGEDLY IS THE NAME OF HIS
10:52:29 COMPANY.
10:52:33 WHEN HE SAYS THAT -- HIS NAME IS PATRICK THORPE.
10:52:37 >> A MUCH DEEPER MEANING THAT I WILL HAVE EXPLAIN TO
10:52:37 YOU ONE DAY.
10:52:41 ON THE OVERHEAD PROJECTOR, I WILL PLACE A COUPLE OF
10:52:42 IMAGES HERE.
10:52:48 THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AS IT SITS TODAY FOR THE
10:52:52 PROPERTY AT 7711 NORTH DARTMOUTH.
10:52:56 WHAT WE SEE HERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT LEADS UP
10:53:00 TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND INTO A COVERED AREA.
10:53:02 THEN A SECOND DRIVEWAY THAT LEADS AROUND TO THE BACK OF
10:53:07 PROPERTY AND TO THE EXISTING WOOD-FRAMED STRUCTURE,
10:53:11 WHICH IS CURRENTLY A GARAGE.
10:53:18 WE ARE PROPOSING THAT CURRENTLY WE WILL REMOVE BOTH
10:53:22 DRIVEWAYS ALONG WITH AN EXISTING WOOD DECK TO INCREASE
10:53:28 THE IMPERVIOUS AREA ON-SITE, AND AT THE SAME TIME
10:53:35 REPLACE THE TWO DRIVEWAYS WITH ONE DRIVEWAY THAT IS
10:53:37 FURTHER AWAY FROM THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE PROVIDING
10:53:45 A COMPLIANT CONCRETE APRON FOR THE CURRENT TECHNICAL
10:53:48 TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL MANUAL STANDARDS AS WELL AS
10:53:50 TRYING TO IMPROVE THE LOOK OF THE PROPERTY BASED ON THE
10:53:56 EXISTING SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ZONING CODE THAT DOES NOT
10:53:59 ALLOW FOR PARKING IN FRONT OF THE HOME.
10:54:02 SO WITH THAT, THE ISSUE WE ARE HAVING WITH THIS STRUCK,
10:54:06 YOU IS WE ARE LOOKING TO DO AN INTERIOR ONLY
10:54:10 IMPROVEMENT TO THE ACCESSORY BUILDING WHICH STATED 985
10:54:12 SQUARE FEET.
10:54:16 THE 985 SQUARE FEET IS LESS THAN 5% OVER THE
10:54:20 950-SQUARE-FOOT MAXIMUM.
10:54:24 OUR ISSUE THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY IN 1949,
10:54:26 IT SITS ON AN EXISTING DOUBLE LOT.
10:54:29 WE ARE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE
10:54:32 BUILDING SOLELY BASED ON COST.
10:54:35 THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE BUILDING BY 35 SQUARE
10:54:41 FEET WOULD CAUSE SIGNIFICANT COST OVERRUNS FOR THE
10:54:43 PROJECT AND IT IS NOT REALLY FEASIBLE.
10:54:50 IN ADDITION, THE EXISTING SETBACK IS 19 FEET, TWO
10:54:51 INCHES.
10:54:57 WHEN YOU ARE OVER THE 950 SQUARE FEET YOU ARE FROM THE
10:54:59 BUILDING SETBACK AND THE EXISTING LOCATION OF THE
10:55:04 BUILDING IS LESS THAN 5% OUTSIDE OF CONFORMANCE WITH
10:55:09 THE CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS.
10:55:14 SO AT THIS TIME, THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. MICHAEL SICA
10:55:16 IS HERE AS WELL AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
10:55:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:55:20 >> HELLO, EVERYBODY.
10:55:21 GOOD MORNING.
10:55:23 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:55:26 MY NAME IS MICHAEL SICA.
10:55:26 I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
10:55:29 I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I AM MARRIED.
10:55:31 I HAVE A COUPLE OF KIDS.
10:55:33 FREQUENT VISIT FROM PARENTS OUT OF STATE.
10:55:38 WE USE -- WHICH TRY TO USE AS MUCH SPACE AS POSSIBLE.
10:55:41 THE GOAL WAS TO CREATE MORE LIVING SPACE SO WE CAN
10:55:43 ACCOMMODATE THAT.
10:55:47 AT THIS POINT, PATRICK HAS ADVISED ME TO GO THE
10:55:51 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH
10:55:56 THIS AGAIN SHOULD I TRANSFER PROPERTY OR MOVE TO
10:55:59 ANOTHER PROPERTY AND DECIDE TO KEEP IT AND USE IT AS A
10:56:00 RENTAL.
10:56:05 SO, YOU KNOW, I AM -- AT THIS POINT, I AM ASKING YOUR
10:56:07 PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PLANS AND THANK YOU
10:56:09 AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
10:56:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE
10:56:13 GENTLEMAN?
10:56:14 NO?
10:56:15 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC.
10:56:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
10:56:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
10:56:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SICA OR YOUR REPRESENTATIVE,
10:56:26 DID YOU THE REQUIRED MAILING TO YOUR NEIGHBORS,
10:56:27 CORRECT?
10:56:28 >> YES, SIR.
10:56:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU HEAR BACK SPECIFICALLY FROM
10:56:33 ANY OF THEM?
10:56:35 >> NO, NOT ONE NEIGHBOR.
10:56:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:56:37 >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:56:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO
10:56:44 SPEAK ON THIS EYE THEM. WE HAVE NOBODY REGISTERED.
10:56:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:56:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:56:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:56:55 AYE.
10:56:58 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL, TO OVERTURN OR
10:57:03 STAND BY THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
10:57:05 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR, IF I
10:57:08 MAY IN ADDRESSING THE -- I JUST WANT TO REMIND
10:57:13 COUNCILMEMBERS TO ALSO ADDRESS NOT ONLY THE ZONING
10:57:16 ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION REGARDING THE ACCESSORY
10:57:20 DWELLING UNIT BUT TO ALSO ADDRESS THE PARKING
10:57:21 REQUIREMENT.
10:57:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:57:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULD THAT BE IN THE FORM OF A
10:57:31 WAIVER, MADAM ATTORNEY?
10:57:35 >> IF I CAN -- IF I GO BACK AND CLARIFY THE DRIVEWAY ON
10:57:38 THE PROPOSED PLAN.
10:57:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE SAW THE DRIVEWAY.
10:57:44 WHAT I AM ASKING IS LEGAL COUNSEL IS ASKING THAT WE
10:57:46 INCLUDE IT IN OUR MOTION.
10:57:52 WOULD THAT BE IN THE FORM OF A WAIVER OR WHAT -- HOW
10:57:55 WOULD WE HANDLE THAT PROCEDURALLY, MA'AM?
10:57:57 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I SEE THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:57:59 HAS HIS HAND RAISED.
10:58:03 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE
10:58:05 QUESTIONS.
10:58:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, PLEASE UNMUTE
10:58:08 YOURSELF.
10:58:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ASK PERTINENT QUESTIONS
10:58:20 AND I WAS RAISING MY HAND AND INADVERTENTLY OVERLOOKED.
10:58:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GEL WITH DINGFELDER'S QUESTION
10:58:25 FIRST AND THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:26 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FOR THE
10:58:29 CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE JUST FOR THE RECORD.
10:58:31 IN MR. COTTON'S PRESENTATION AND IN THE DECISION
10:58:35 LETTER, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT GAVE THE
10:58:39 REQUIREMENTS OF THE -- THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS
10:58:46 PROPERTY IN THAT -- PARKING FOR THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE
10:58:50 AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE CAN NOT BLOCK EACH OTHER WHEN
10:58:50 PARKED.
10:58:53 THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT SAID PLEASE REDESIGN
10:58:56 PARKING TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE.
10:59:02 HAS TO BE ACCORDING TO CITY CODE SECTION 27.211.2.2
10:59:06 SUBSECTIONS C WHICH I PROVIDED TO COUNCIL A TOTAL OF
10:59:11 THREE SPACES ON THE LOT PROPERTY.
10:59:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:59:15 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
10:59:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WERE TO
10:59:19 OVERTURN THE DENIAL, WE WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE A WAIVER
10:59:24 OF THE THREE PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENT?
10:59:27 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT SECTION NEEDS TO STILL
10:59:31 BE MET PER THE SITE PLAN THAT IS PROPOSED BY THE
10:59:33 PETITIONER.
10:59:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WE WOULDN'T WAIVE ANYTHING?
10:59:39 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT.
10:59:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU.
10:59:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:59:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.
10:59:51 I KNOW THE PETITIONER MR. SICA SAID FOR THE FAMILY TO
10:59:55 COME TO VISIT AND SO FORTH AND SO ON AND THE BUILDING
10:59:56 WAS BUILT IN THE '40S.
10:59:58 I DID HEAR THAT ALL CORRECT?
11:00:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:00:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAS THIS BUILDING, HAS IT BEEN USED
11:00:05 AT ALL OR JUST A BUILDING THAT HAS GOT TO BE REMODELED
11:00:07 TO BE HABITABLE.
11:00:10 AND WITHIN THAT DISTRICT, I THINK SOME OF THESE
11:00:11 BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED.
11:00:19 AM I CORRECT OR NOT?
11:00:24 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, THEY ARE ALLOWED IN THE
11:00:26 SPECIAL USE DISTRICT.
11:00:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANTED TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD.
11:00:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:00:35 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUESTIONS.
11:00:37 I WANTED TO ASK STAFF, WHAT ARE THE RULES AROUND THE ABILITY
11:00:40 TO RENT THE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS SEPARATE FROM THE HOUSE?
11:00:45 >> THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS COULD BE A RENTABLE PIECE OF
11:00:53 PROPERTY.
11:00:55 BUT THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED IN THE FRONT.
11:00:58 YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO RENTALS.
11:01:02 THE OWNER OCCUPIED, THE SECOND UNIT WILL BE THE RENTABLE
11:01:05 UNIT.
11:01:06 IT WOULD ALL BE RENTED AS ONE.
11:01:12 THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT CAN BE RENTED BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE
11:01:17 TWO RENTALS.
11:01:17 YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH THE FRONT AND THE BACK RENTED.
11:01:21 >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT IT.
11:01:23 SO THE ATTORNEY SAID THAT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THREE
11:01:29 PARKING SPACES.
11:01:30 DOES YOUR DESIGN MEET THAT REQUIREMENT?
11:01:32 >> YES, SIR.
11:01:32 IF WE GO BACK TO THE OVERHEAD PROJECTOR, I CAN SHOW ON THE
11:01:36 PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
11:01:38 IN THIS AREA, THEY HAVE THE STRAIGHT DRIVEWAY THAT COMES IN
11:01:41 TO AN 18 BY 36 PARKING AREA, THEN ALSO FLARES OUT TO PROVIDE
11:01:46 PARKING FOR THREE CARS AT A MINIMUM.
11:01:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.
11:01:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION, OKAY.
11:01:58 MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:01:59 >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:02:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:02:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:02:04 AYE.
11:02:04 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN
11:02:08 THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION DENIAL SPECIAL USE APPLICATION
11:02:13 SU-1-21-000016 BECAUSE PETITIONER DEMONSTRATED THAT THE
11:02:19 PETITIONER IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL
11:02:21 STANDARDS SET FORTH UNDER SECTION 27-1312, AND HAS MET THE
11:02:26 REQUIREMENT FOR THE PARKING SPACES, AND MADAM ATTORNEY, WHAT
11:02:31 DID I FORGET?
11:02:33 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
11:02:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:02:46 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:02:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, A COMMENT?
11:02:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:02:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST BRIEFLY, FOR ANYBODY WHO IS
11:02:55 WATCHING, AND I KNOW SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS VERY CAUTIOUS AND
11:03:00 CONCERNED GENERALLY ABOUT THESE SORT OF ISSUES.
11:03:05 AND ESPECIALLY ANY KIND OF WAIVERS.
11:03:06 BUT IN THIS CASE, THIS IS AN EXISTING GARAGE THAT'S BEING
11:03:13 REMODELED, AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TURNED INTO KIND OF A
11:03:18 GRANNY FLAT, IN THIS CASE, FOR HOPEFULLY FOR FAMILY USE.
11:03:24 BUT ANYWAY, I CAN SUPPORT IT BASED UPON THE FACT THAT BARELY
11:03:29 I THINK 30 SQUARE FEET OR SOMETHING.
11:03:31 THANK YOU.
11:03:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:03:35 WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE ROLL VOTE.
11:03:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:03:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:03:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:03:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:03:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:03:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:03:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:03:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:03:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP.
11:03:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM ON 7510 NORTH
11:04:03 OLA, IF COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE ANY DOCUMENTS PURSUANT TO --
11:04:09 >> SO MOVED.
11:04:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY CITRO.
11:04:11 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:04:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:14 WE BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 38.
11:04:15 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:04:24 THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU ON A PETITION FILED BY SEAN AND
11:04:28 MELISSA WOLF.
11:04:29 THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION 1 REQUEST FOR THE PARTY
11:04:35 LOCATED AT 7510 NORTH OLA AVENUE.
11:04:39 THEY ARE SEEKING REVIEW OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION
11:04:42 DECISION DENYING THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF A FENCE IN THE
11:04:45 FRONT YARD FROM 3 FEET TO 6 FEET, WHICH REQUESTED RELIEF
11:04:49 FROM SECTION 27-60, SUBSECTION E-5.
11:04:56 COUNCIL WAS PROVIDED WITH A COPY OF THE HEARING FOR REVIEW
11:05:01 AS WELL AS SAMPLE MOTION.
11:05:02 FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY'S HEARING THE CITY COUNCIL APPLIED THE
11:05:05 DE NOVO VIEW.
11:05:07 YOUR DECISION IS NOT LIMITED TO THE RECORD CREATED BY THE
11:05:11 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, INSTEAD CAN TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY,
11:05:15 ACCEPT THE EVIDENCE AND MAKE ANY DECISIONS BASED UPON THE
11:05:17 APPLICATION -- THE APPLICANT, MEETING THE CRITERIA IN
11:05:21 SECTION 27-60 SUBSECTION E-5.
11:05:25 MR. COTTON WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE RELIEF REQUESTED
11:05:29 IN THE APPLICATION AND THE BASIS FOR THE CITY'S DECISION.
11:05:32 AFTER CONSIDERING ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, INTRODUCED INTO THE
11:05:35 RECORD, AT TODAY'S HEARING, CITY COUNCIL MAY UPHOLD THE
11:05:38 ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DECISION AND THEREBY DENY THE
11:05:41 ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION OR COUNCIL MAY
11:05:46 OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION AND THEREBY
11:05:49 APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN
11:05:53 EXCEPTION.
11:05:53 AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. COTTON.
11:05:56 AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COTTON.
11:06:01 >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:06:04 AS CAMARIA WAS INDICATING, THE PROPERTY IS AT 7510 NORTH OLA
11:06:10 AVENUE.
11:06:11 THE APPLICANT IS SEAN AND MELISSA WOLF.
11:06:18 FROM 60 IN THE FRONT YARD.
11:06:20 ON SECTION 27-290.1 GOVERNS HEIGHT FOR A SOLID FENCE, THE
11:06:26 HEIGHT LIMITATION IS THREE FEET.
11:06:27 SO AS A RESULT, IF COUNCIL RECALLS WORKSHOP FROM A COUPLE OF
11:06:31 MONTHS AGO, STAFF IS HESITANT TO APPROVE FENCES IN THE FRONT
11:06:38 YARD.
11:06:39 SO AS A RESULT, STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST.
11:06:43 THESE ARE THE STANDARD FOR THE 27-60 FOR ALTERNATIVE DESIGN.
11:06:55 IT'S A 100% INCREASE IN THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE.
11:06:58 THIS IS ON THE RIVER, OLA, THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:07:05 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
11:07:09 WHAT WAS IN PINK WAS AN EXISTING 6-FOOT TALL VINYL FENCE,
11:07:16 CORRUGATED ALUMINUM ON THE FRONT LAWN WITH A GATE.
11:07:21 THIS IS THE CURRENT VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
11:07:23 WHEN I WAS OUT THERE, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS
11:07:25 AGO, THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
11:07:29 THEY HAVE AN EXISTING FENCE.
11:07:30 IT IS SET BACK OFF THE SIDEWALK.
11:07:32 THE PROPERTY LINE IS PROBABLY ABOUT WHERE THE TREES ARE,
11:07:37 THAT FAR BACK INTO IT.
11:07:40 THIS IS THE EXISTING FENCE FROM OLA.
11:07:44 THE PROPERTY IS OVER HERE WITH WHERE THE LARGE TREE IS.
11:07:47 THIS IS THE FENCE, THE EXISTING.
11:07:49 THIS IS THE VACANT PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
11:07:54 AND ACROSS OLA.
11:07:58 THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
11:08:00 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DENIAL?
11:08:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
11:08:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
11:08:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:08:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE SAYING A FENCE ACROSS THE FRONT, OR
11:08:17 IS THAT THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY?
11:08:21 >>ERIC COTTON: IT'S THE FENCE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT'S IN
11:08:24 YELLOW.
11:08:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THE SIDES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE,
11:08:30 WHAT, 3 FEET OR 4 FEET IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE?
11:08:36 >>ERIC COTTON: THE FRONT YARD IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS BASED
11:08:38 ON WHERE THE HOUSE -- THE FRONT YARD FOR THIS PROPERTY IS
11:08:42 PROBABLY ABOUT HERE.
11:08:44 ANYTHING FROM THAT POINT BACKWARDS, IF YOU GO SIX FEET, BUT
11:08:48 AT THE PROPERTY LINE, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THREE FOOT
11:08:53 SOLID FENCE, AND WROUGHT IRON OR SOMETHING, OR PICKET FENCE.
11:08:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:02 ANYTHING ELSE?
11:09:03 NO?
11:09:03 ALL RIGHT.
11:09:04 I SEE THE TWO APPLICANTS AT THE KIOSK.
11:09:05 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:09:07 WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU BEGIN SPEAKING.
11:09:11 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE GOING TO
11:09:11 GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
11:09:11 TRUTH?
11:09:16 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:09:17 >> I DO.
11:09:17 >> PLEASE GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:09:19 >> MY NAME IS SEAN WOLF.
11:09:21 WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE MATTER.
11:09:24 THIS IS MY WIFE MELISSA. I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN THE
11:09:28 TAMPA BAY AREA IN DREW PARK SPECIFICALLY.
11:09:30 MY WIFE IS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.
11:09:33 WE ARE HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.
11:09:37 WE FEEL AS THOUGH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN WAS A
11:09:40 LITTLE BIT ASKEW FROM WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN
11:09:45 GETTING.
11:09:45 THEREFORE WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE TYPE OF FENCE
11:09:48 THAT FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS THE IN THERE.
11:09:50 WE HAVE HAD AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS SINCE MOVING IN,
11:09:53 IN 2018, DUE TO THE UNIQUE SITUATION OF THE PROPERTY.
11:09:56 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 222 FEET FROM MY FRONT
11:10:00 DOOR TO THE STREET.
11:10:02 WE HAVE PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL WITH NUMEROUS POLICE REPORTS
11:10:08 OF ANYTHING FROM TRESPASSING TO PEOPLE STEALING FIGS OFF OF
11:10:13 MY FIGS TREES AND DOG WASTE AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH
11:10:17 ONE OF THE, I GUESS RYAN -- RYAN, HE DOES ANY CODE
11:10:25 ENFORCEMENT OF ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.
11:10:26 SO WE ARE TODAY WITH A HARDSHIP NOW.
11:10:29 WE CAN'T PARK OUR VEHICLES IN OUR HOUSE.
11:10:31 I DON'T FEEL SAFE GOING INTO MY PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING A
11:10:36 MEANS TO DEFEND MYSELF.
11:10:37 WE JUST LITERALLY A FEW WEEKS AGO GOT RID OF A SEX OFFENDER,
11:10:43 WHO WOULD STAND AT THE END OF MY PROPERTY AND LOOK TO YOUR
11:10:45 LEFT, YOU WILL SEE THE HOUSE THAT IS NOW BEING RESTORED FROM
11:10:50 A PREVIOUS SEX OFFENDER, ONE OF THE WORST, CHILD POACHER, IF
11:10:55 YOU LOOK AND DO A SMALL SEARCH OF A MILE OR TWO MILES OF
11:10:58 WHICH WE DID A SEX OFFENDERS IN THE AREA YOU ARE GOING TO
11:11:01 SEE THAT IT JUST LIGHTS UP THE WHOLE SCREEN AS WELL AS
11:11:04 CRIME.
11:11:05 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS A FANTASTIC AREA.
11:11:07 WE LOVE THE HOUSE.
11:11:08 WE WORK EXTREMELY HARD.
11:11:10 WE HAVE GREAT NEIGHBORS.
11:11:11 OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT OF US ARE ACTUALLY IN
11:11:13 FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED FENCE.
11:11:16 WHAT WE DID WAS UNFORTUNATELY GIVE A DESCRIPTION OF -- WE
11:11:22 DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, WE ARE FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERS.
11:11:24 THE FENCE WE ACTUALLY WANT IS THE FENCE THAT OUR NEIGHBORS
11:11:27 HAVE.
11:11:29 WE HAVE GONE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LOOKED AT THE OTHER
11:11:31 FENCES, AND WE DO HAVE A LARGE TREE IN THE FRONT YARD OF
11:11:34 WHICH WE ARE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING.
11:11:36 THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT STABILIZES THE FRONT OF OUR
11:11:40 HOUSE.
11:11:40 WHAT WAS NOT NOTED IS THAT THE HOUSE WHERE IT'S LOCATED IS
11:11:44 ALSO CHANGE OF ELEVATION SO WE HAVE A FLAT ROOF HOUSE.
11:11:49 IT'S A VERY SMALL HOUSE, 1200 AND SOMETHING SQUARE FEET.
11:11:52 SO IT SITS BACK VERY FAR.
11:11:53 WE ENJOY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE SO CLOSE TO THE WATER.
11:11:56 WE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.
11:11:57 OUR HOUSE IS FROM 1955.
11:11:59 IT HAS CHARACTER.
11:12:00 IT'S WHAT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS ABOUT.
11:12:01 AND THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THE AREA, NOW.
11:12:03 THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S UP AND COMING.
11:12:06 YEAH, IT'S GOT ITS PROS AND CONS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY
11:12:10 WE LOOKED AND SAID, NOW WHAT?
11:12:12 THIS IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY.
11:12:14 AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING
11:12:17 CHILDREN PLAY OUT FRONT, WITH PEOPLE WALKING IN WHEN THEY
11:12:21 ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO, OF PEOPLE SLEEPING UNDER MY TREE, NOT
11:12:24 COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING 150 FOUND DOGS SCALE A FIVE FOOT
11:12:29 FENCE ON THE BACKSIDE OF MY HOUSE AND DRINK WATER OUT OF MY
11:12:32 POND AND THEN URINATE ON MY VERY EXPENSIVE PLANTS AND ALL OF
11:12:35 THE THINGS IN MY BACKYARD.
11:12:37 THAT'S JUST A SNIPPET OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAVING.
11:12:39 WE DID TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:12:44 WE CAN DO NOTHING BUT APPLAUD THE POLICE FOR HAVING
11:12:46 OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE WITH US BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SO
11:12:48 MANY ISSUES.
11:12:49 WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PEOPLE AND THE
11:12:52 SURROUNDING AREAS.
11:12:54 APPARENTLY, WHAT WE WILL OUTLINE IN SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT
11:12:57 OPPOSE THE FENCE IS A LOT OF MISLEADING INFORMATION WHICH WE
11:13:02 FEEL AS THOUGH IS VERY ONE SIDED.
11:13:05 YOU KNOW, WE ARE NEW TO THIS.
11:13:07 WE DO HAVE LETTERS FROM OUR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE INTERESTED
11:13:10 AND ADOPT OPPOSE THE FENCE, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY PAID BETWEEN
11:13:18 MYSELF AND BOTH OF THE NEIGHBORS.
11:13:20 EVERYBODY WAS IN AGREEMENT.
11:13:21 WHEN WE DECIDED HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:13:24 WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF PEOPLE COMING UP TO OUR PROPERTY,
11:13:26 ENOUGH OF PEOPLE GOING IN OUR YARD, TAKING THINGS, STEALING
11:13:29 AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS, AND WE ARE CAT PEOPLE.
11:13:32 WE CONTINUE HAVE A LARGE DOG.
11:13:34 WE DON'T HAVE ATTACK DOGS, PIT BULLS OR WHATEVER TO DEFEND
11:13:37 OUR PROPERTY, WE HAVE GONE AS FAR AS HAVING NO TRESPASSING
11:13:41 SIGNS.
11:13:42 WE HAVE A RING CAMERA THAT DOES NOTHING.
11:13:44 THE ONLY THING WE DO IS CATCH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THERE.
11:13:47 I HAVE WORDS THAT MAKE THE PEOPLE LEAVE, AND THEN THAT'S IT.
11:13:51 BUT THAT'S STILL NOT STOPPING THE PEOPLE FROM GOING THERE.
11:13:54 OUR NEIGHBORS DO HAVE EXTREMELY NICE HOUSES AND HAVE BEEN
11:13:56 THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
11:13:58 THEY HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL HOMES WHICH IS ONLY GIVEN US, YOU
11:14:01 KNOW, HOPE THAT THE AREA HAS INCREASED AND IS GETTING
11:14:04 BETTER, BUT TWO BLOCKS OVER IT'S A VERY ROUGH PART OF TOWN.
11:14:07 I WOULD ASK ANY OF THE TAMPA BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GO
11:14:11 OVER TO ARTILLERY LIQUORS OR WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE PLACE
11:14:15 IS AND IT'S NOTHING BUT BUMS AND HOMELESS PEOPLE AND
11:14:18 VAGRANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
11:14:20 OUR HOME WAS VACANT FOR A WHILE BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT, SO THIS
11:14:24 IS AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE DECIDED THAT, HEY, THEY CAN GET IN
11:14:28 THERE, AND NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
11:14:33 WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH.
11:14:35 WE DON'T EXPECT ANYBODY IN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH TO PROTECT
11:14:37 MYSELF, MY WIFE OR MY FAMILY.
11:14:39 WE WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO DEFEND OUR FAMILY FROM ANYTHING
11:14:41 THAT HAPPENS.
11:14:42 WE DO HAVE POLICE REPORTS SHOWING THAT.
11:14:44 THE POLICE HAVE BEEN ON OUR BACK AND HAS SAID, HEY, WHATEVER
11:14:48 YOU GUYS NEED TO DO, TO DO THAT.
11:14:50 WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
11:14:51 WE WOULD LIKE A FENCE IN THE FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY THAT
11:14:54 MIMICS THE FENCE OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE
11:14:57 THAT SAFETY.
11:14:58 WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGES.
11:14:59 WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
11:15:00 OUR HOUSE IS UNIQUE.
11:15:02 YES, IT SITS EXTREMELY FAR BACK.
11:15:04 IF YOU ARE ON YOUR BOAT LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE THERE ON THE
11:15:06 WEEKEND, YOU CAN TELL IF I PUT BUTTER OR JELLY ON MY TOAST.
11:15:11 IT'S CLOSE.
11:15:12 SO THE UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THE PROPERTY IS THAT THE HOUSE
11:15:16 IS LOCATED SO CLOSE TO THE WATER, SO OUR BACKYARD IS OUR
11:15:20 FRONT YARD.
11:15:20 AND WE ENJOY OUR PRIVACY.
11:15:22 THE FENCE THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN IS FIVE FOOT TALL FENCE,
11:15:25 IT'S MADE OF ALUMINUM.
11:15:27 WE CALL IT GALVALUM, AND ME TELLING MY WIFE BECAUSE SHE HAS
11:15:33 BETTER PENMANSHIP OF WHAT WE WANT. ANYWAY, WE ARE GOING TO
11:15:37 SHOW THE FENCE THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN.
11:15:38 OUR WATER JUAN DAVIS WHICH IS NEXT TO US, HE ACTUALLY
11:15:42 APPLIED FOR THE FENCE AND HE WAS DENIED ALSO.
11:15:44 AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT IT KIND OF STARTED IN I GUESS
11:15:49 2019 WHEN WE WERE HAVING ISSUES, THE HOUSE WAS STILL BEING
11:15:52 CONSTRUCTED, WE WERE ALREADY OCCUPYING OUR HOUSE, WE KEPT AN
11:15:56 EYE ON OUR PROPERTY, TOO.
11:15:58 THESE ARE PEOPLE WE LIVE NEXT TO.
11:15:59 IF YOU FALL OFF THE LADDER, THE PERSON YOU NEED TO RELY ON
11:16:03 IS THE PERSON NEXT DOOR TO YOU, NOT THE POLICE AND THIS AND
11:16:06 THAT.
11:16:07 YOU NEED TO RELY ON PEOPLE THERE.
11:16:09 NOT ONLY DID WE GET A FANTASTIC HOUSE IN A FANTASTIC AREA
11:16:12 WITH AWESOME NEIGHBORS.
11:16:14 APPARENTLY THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT DISLIKE US OR
11:16:17 DISLIKE WHATEVER WE ARE DOING.
11:16:18 WE GET IT.
11:16:19 WE DO WANT TO KEEP THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
11:16:22 ALTHOUGH IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE FINDINGS OF WHAT WE FEEL
11:16:26 THAT CAME BACK WITH.
11:16:27 AND WE CAN SHOW THAT WITH THAT.
11:16:28 OUR NEIGHBOR WENT AS FAR AS MEASURING THESE FENCES WHICH
11:16:32 WHETHER THEY ARE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL, THEY ARE STILL THERE.
11:16:34 SO IT'S SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT OF WHO GETS TO KEEP WHAT
11:16:39 BECAUSE NOBODY COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.
11:16:40 SO IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE AND YOU HAVE -- YOU NEEDED TO HAVE A
11:16:46 PERMIT.
11:16:47 SO ON THAT STREET WHICH THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT DO,
11:16:50 AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE PROTECTED ADDRESSES.
11:16:52 I DON'T KNOW ALL THESE PEOPLE.
11:16:53 I MIND MY BUSINESS.
11:16:54 I COME HOME.
11:16:57 AT 2:00, SOMETIMES AT 8:00 AT NIGHT.
11:16:59 I HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS.
11:17:00 I'M LUCKY THAT I CAN LEAVE ON LUNCH AND COME CHECK ON MY
11:17:03 PROPERTY BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO.
11:17:04 TO ME, IT'S VERY DISHEARTENING TO NOT WANT TO PUT MY TRASH
11:17:08 OUT BECAUSE PEOPLE DECIDE THEY WANT TO THROW DOG WASTE IN MY
11:17:11 TRASH, THROW IT ON MY TREE, UNDER THE TREE, IN THE HOUSE,
11:17:14 CONTINUOUSLY WALK ON THERE.
11:17:16 I CAN SMELL PEE STAINS FROM WHERE PEOPLE LET THEIR DOGS DO
11:17:20 THAT.
11:17:21 THE HOUSE IS SET SO FAR BACK.
11:17:23 THERE'S NOT A PHYSICAL BARRIER TO STOP PEOPLE FROM DOING
11:17:25 THAT.
11:17:26 I AM NOT ASKING FOR 15 FEET WALL WITH CONSTANTINE WIRE.
11:17:33 I AM ASKING FOR A FENCE THAT'S SMALLER THAN WHAT PEOPLE HAVE
11:17:35 ON THE STREET. IF THEY WENT DOWN AND LOOKED AT THE OTHER
11:17:38 PROPERTIES THEY WILL SEE THAT THIS FENCE THAT'S RIGHT ON THE
11:17:41 STREET, AND LIKE I SAID, WE ARE HAVING ISSUES.
11:17:43 IT'S CONTINUING.
11:17:44 WE DO CALL THE POLICE.
11:17:45 WE DO ALL THE THINGS NECESSARY BECAUSE IF WE ARE HAVING A
11:17:48 PROBLEM, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
11:17:49 IT WAS MORE MAYBE TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO, WE HAD SOMEBODY
11:17:53 THAT WAS -- THEY WERE ON METH, CRACK COCAINE, I DON'T KNOW.
11:17:58 SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH THEM.
11:18:00 MY NEIGHBOR SAID HEY, I HAVE A PROBLEM, THERE'S A GUY IN THE
11:18:03 TREE, AIRBNB.
11:18:05 WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT THERE THAT LIVE THERE.
11:18:07 SO WE HAVE 3 OR 4 AIRBNBs SO WE COULD INSTANTLY SEE AN
11:18:13 INFLUX OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT WE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, SO
11:18:16 THERE'S NOT ANY SECURITY BLANKET WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
11:18:20 THREE DOORS DOWN BECAUSE THEY HAVE MULTIPLE AIRBNBs.
11:18:25 HE WASN'T COMFORTABLE APPROACHING THIS PERSON DIRECTLY, WE
11:18:30 DON'T KNOW IF HE'S SICK OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
11:18:32 IT JUST HAPPENS THAT THIS IS A CRAZY GUY SITING OFTEN A
11:18:36 BEVERAGE.
11:18:37 THIS IS GREAT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LOCAL BUT IT'S BAD FOR THE
11:18:39 PEOPLE THAT ARE CONTRACTED OUT AND ON MEDICINE OR WHATEVER.
11:18:42 I DON'T KNOW.
11:18:43 I DON'T KNOW.
11:18:44 SO I CALLED THE POLICE.
11:18:45 I SAID HEY, LISTEN, THERE'S SOME GUY IN THE BURNS, WE DON'T
11:18:49 KNOW IF HE'S DRUNK, ON DRUGS.
11:18:51 I'M NOT APPROACHING ANYBODY.
11:18:53 I STAY ON MY PROPERTY.
11:18:54 I'M NOT APPROACHING THAT PERSON UNLESS IT'S MY DIRECT
11:18:56 NEIGHBOR THEY ARE BLEEDING OR SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THEM
11:19:01 OR THERE'S AN EMERGENCY.
11:19:02 THEN YES, WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROACHING SOMEONE
11:19:04 BECAUSE TWO BLOCKS AWAY IT'S A VERY ROUGH AREA.
11:19:07 IT'S A ROUGH AREA.
11:19:08 WE HAVE THE MAYOR THAT LIVES RIGHT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO US.
11:19:12 WE HAVE JUDGES AND SPECIAL MAGISTRATES THAT LIVE ON THE
11:19:14 STREET.
11:19:14 WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE NEIGHBORS.
11:19:16 THIS IS A GREAT PLACE.
11:19:17 WE LOVE THIS, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.
11:19:20 IT'S FANTASTIC.
11:19:22 WE CAN'T DO ANY BETTER LITERALLY.
11:19:24 WE ARE IN AN AREA OF TAMPA THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST
11:19:27 EXCLUSIVE LOCATIONS IN TAMPA.
11:19:30 IN 15 MINUTES I CAN BE DOWNTOWN.
11:19:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, MR. WOLF?
11:19:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, GO AHEAD.
11:19:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ABUNDANTLY
11:19:43 CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWED.
11:19:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
11:19:47 >> YES, SIR.
11:19:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
11:19:51 BUT BASICALLY, ON THE PORTION OF YOUR PROPERTY, UP ON THE
11:19:57 STREET, OKAY, RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU COULD BE
11:20:01 ALLOWED A 4-FOOT SLATTED FENCE.
11:20:06 >> AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE IN TO PUT UP.
11:20:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME FINISH.
11:20:10 >> SORRY.
11:20:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE TWO SIDE YARDS, OKAY, AND WE ARE
11:20:13 NOT PICKING ON YOU.
11:20:14 THIS IS CODE ACROSS THE CITY.
11:20:16 >> SURE.
11:20:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE DON'T ALLOW THE 6-FOOT COMING UP THE
11:20:21 SIDES, OKAY, BUT WE DO ALLOW -- CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG,
11:20:25 ERIC -- WE DO ALLOW THE SAME 4-FOOT SLATTED ALL THE WAY BACK
11:20:31 TO WHERE YOUR HOUSE STARTS OF THE FROM THAT POINT BACK, YOU
11:20:35 CAN HAVE THE 6-FOOT FENCE, AND SO THAT'S A BASIC RULE FOR
11:20:43 EVERYBODY.
11:20:43 WE ARE NOT PICKING ON YOU.
11:20:46 WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROBABLY IN A
11:20:49 BIT OF TRANSITION IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE
11:20:53 ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED.
11:20:54 >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:20:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, AT LEAST
11:20:59 THE PICTURES THAT SHOW HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED, IS THE
11:21:03 6-FOOT SOLID PVC FENCE ALL THE WAY UP THE STREET.
11:21:08 >> AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DOING THIS
11:21:12 CORRECTLY.
11:21:12 YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE US, IT'S OUR FIRST TIME WE HAVE EVER --
11:21:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT'S BEEN SHOWN.
11:21:17 >> YES, SO THAT FENCE IS THERE AND IT'S ACTUALLY A MUTUAL
11:21:20 FENCE BETWEEN MY NEIGHBOR ON THE EAST AND WEST OF US.
11:21:24 SO --
11:21:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND BUT SOMEBODY PUT IT UP.
11:21:27 >> YES, SOMEBODY DID PUT IT UP.
11:21:31 THIS IS THE FENCE BETWEEN MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF THAT WE
11:21:33 HAVE THERE.
11:21:34 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO PUT A FENCE LESS THAN FIVE FEET
11:21:38 BEHIND THE SIDEWALK WHICH STILL GIVES EVERYBODY THE SAME
11:21:42 EXACT ACCESS, IT STILL GIVES EVERYBODY THE SAME EXACT VIEW.
11:21:45 WHAT IT DOESN'T DO IS IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO SLEEP
11:21:48 UNDER MY TREE AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
11:21:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IF YOU STILL HAVE
11:21:53 THAT 4-FOOT SLATTED FENCE ON THE FRONT, YOU ARE NOT ASKING
11:21:57 TO CHANGE THAT, CORRECT?
11:21:59 >> NO, WE DON'T HAVE A SLATTED FENCE ON THE FRONT.
11:22:03 THE FENCE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADD IS A SLATTED FENCE BY --
11:22:08 BETWEEN 4 AND 5 FEET TALL.
11:22:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE CODE ALLOWS 4 FEET, ALL RIGHT?
11:22:13 >> AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THE OTHER
11:22:15 NEIGHBORS HAVE FENCES THAT START WITH LIKE 50 TO 60 INCHES
11:22:18 OF MY NEIGHBOR ACTUALLY WEPT AND MEASURED ALL OF THESE
11:22:21 FENCES, LITERALLY THE FENCES THAT WE HAVE THERE, IF YOU GO
11:22:24 DOWN THE STREET, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO --
11:22:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY POINT IS, IF YOU HAVE A 4-FOOT
11:22:30 SLATTED FENCE ON THE FRONT, THEN YOU GO UP TO 6 FEET ON THE
11:22:34 SIDE, TO ME, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY EXTRA SECURITY, BECAUSE
11:22:38 IF I AM THE GUY THAT WANTS TO CLIMB OVER, I AM GOING TO TAKE
11:22:42 THE ROUTE OF LEAST RESISTANCE, WHICH IS EITHER THE 4 FEET OR
11:22:46 MAYBE EVEN THE 5 FEET IF YOU GET A VARIANCE FROM US.
11:22:50 >> YES, THAT'S --
11:22:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE 5 FEET.
11:22:54 BUT TO ME I DON'T SEE THE JUSTIFICATION OF THAT SOLID 6-FOOT
11:22:57 FENCE ON EITHER SIDE, HOW THAT PROVIDES YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
11:23:00 SECURITY, FROM SOMEBODY WHO TRULY WANTS TO BREAK INTO YOUR
11:23:04 YARD.
11:23:05 >> WELL, NOW, HERE IS THE THING.
11:23:07 WE ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE THAT WOULD INCREASE THE HEIGHT
11:23:10 FROM THE 4 FEET TO THE 5 FEET OF SLATTED.
11:23:13 WE MADE THE MISTAKE OF CALLING THE TYPE OF FENCE WE WANT
11:23:18 GALVALUM.
11:23:25 THAT WOULD STOP 95% OR MAYBE EVEN MORE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE
11:23:28 ARE HAVING IN THERE.
11:23:29 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING SPECIAL.
11:23:31 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY PRIVILEGES.
11:23:33 WE ARE JUST SAYING, HEY, WE ARE IN A HARDSHIP --
11:23:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO REDUCE THOSE
11:23:38 SIDE YARD FENCES TO THE SAME MATERIAL OF SLATTED 5 FEET
11:23:45 FENCE?
11:23:45 >> WELL --
11:23:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN MAYBE
11:23:49 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCILMAN MIGHT BE ABLE --
11:23:53 >> WELL, THE ONLY REASON I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT IS
11:23:55 BECAUSE IT PROVIDES -- THE WAY MY HOUSE IS SITUATED AND THE
11:23:58 NEIGHBORS' HOUSE IS SITUATED, MY FRONT YARD IS THE BACKYARD
11:24:01 SO LITERALLY WHEN MY NEIGHBORS ARE THERE, IF THE FENCE WERE
11:24:04 OPEN, THEY HAVE NO PRIVACY IN THEIR BACKYARD SO IT'S JUST
11:24:07 ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
11:24:08 ADDITIONALLY THE EXPENSE THAT WE INCURRED TO DO THIS IS
11:24:10 EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
11:24:11 WE ARE ALREADY AT A LOSS BECAUSE WE NEED TO PUT A GATE.
11:24:14 WE ORIGINALLY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A GATE OR PUT A FENCE
11:24:17 BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
11:24:18 WE HAVE OTHER THINGS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE INTERESTED
11:24:20 IN DOING BEFORE THAT.
11:24:22 AND THAT WAS THE THING.
11:24:23 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE LETTERS FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE ALSO
11:24:27 INTERESTED IN THIS.
11:24:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
11:24:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:30 >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED AND EXISTING
11:24:35 6-FOOT FENCE AS SHOWN IN THE ACCELA PORTAL IS APPROVED.
11:24:40 THIS IS A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM ERIC COTTON DIRECTLY
11:24:43 ON JANUARY 11th, 2021.
11:24:46 SO WE ARE NOT QUESTIONING THE 6-FOOT FENCE.
11:24:50 THE 6-FOOT FENCE IS NOT AN ISSUE.
11:24:52 WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY IS TO PRESENT FOR A FENCE IN THE
11:24:56 FRONT YARD.
11:25:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE NEED CLARIFICATION FROM MR.
11:25:02 COTTON ON THAT.
11:25:07 THE 6-FOOT FENCE ON THE SIDE YARDS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, I
11:25:10 BELIEVE MR. COTTON SAID IS PART OF THE VIOLATION, AND IS
11:25:14 PART OF THE ISSUE.
11:25:17 BUT MR. COTTON OR LEGAL STAFF CAN CLARIFY THAT.
11:25:20 THANK YOU.
11:25:23 >>ERIC COTTON: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:25:26 THERE WERE TWO REQUESTS IN THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
11:25:30 ONE WAS FOR THE 6-FOOT FENCE ALONG THE SIDE.
11:25:33 TECHNICALLY IT'S IN THE FRONT YARD BUT IT WAS ALONG THE SIDE
11:25:36 PROPERTY LINE.
11:25:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER.
11:25:41 MR. COTTON, PUT THE PHOTOS UP.
11:25:54 >>ERIC COTTON: SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
11:25:55 YOU ALL CAN SEE IT.
11:25:58 WHAT'S IN PINK WAS APPROVED.
11:26:00 SOMEWHERE BACK HERE IS THE FRONT YARD.
11:26:03 AND INCREASE THE EXISTING FENCE HEIGHT TO 6 FEET.
11:26:05 THAT WAS APPROVED.
11:26:06 SO YOU CAN SEE THIS WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE DESIGN
11:26:11 EXCEPTION.
11:26:15 THE NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE.
11:26:17 THAT WAS APPROVED.
11:26:17 WHAT WAS DENIED WOULD HAVE BEEN A FENCE ACROSS THE FRONT OF
11:26:20 THE PROPERTY THIS WAY.
11:26:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
11:26:23 THEN I STAND CORRECTED.
11:26:24 SORRY.
11:26:25 >> AND YOU WILL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME.
11:26:28 I MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONE THAT TOLD MY WIFE, JUST BEAR WITH ME
11:26:32 ONE SECOND HERE.
11:26:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
11:26:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM JUST WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT IS
11:26:37 FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, IF A QUESTION LOW LISTEN TO
11:26:41 THEIRS, WE MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN THE ANSWERS.
11:26:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WASN'T HEARING A LOT OF ANSWERS IN 15
11:26:47 MINUTES.
11:26:47 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:26:48 I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.
11:26:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING IF THEY ARE FINISHED
11:26:53 WITH THEIR PRESENTATION.
11:26:54 >> WE WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT THE TYPE OF FENCE THAT WE
11:26:57 WERE INTERESTED IN PUTTING.
11:26:59 WE DID A SEARCH FOR GALVALUM FENCE PANELS.
11:27:02 THIS IS WHAT CAME UP.
11:27:04 THIS IS WHAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN DOING.
11:27:05 SO WHEN WE GAVE THE DESCRIPTION, I THINK PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT
11:27:09 THIS STYLE OF FENCE THAT GOES COMPLETELY ACROSS TENSE BY
11:27:13 WOULD BLOCK PEOPLE'S VIEWS, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE
11:27:16 INTERESTED IN.
11:27:16 WE ARE INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF FENCE.
11:27:18 WE HAVE LETTERS FROM OPPOSITION AS WELL AS OUT OF THE 35, I
11:27:22 THINK WE SENT OUT, WE HAVE FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE THAT WERE
11:27:27 OPPOSED TO IT AND WE FEEL AS THOUGH THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PART
11:27:29 OF THE ISSUE THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED BECAUSE THEY WERE
11:27:31 THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE 6-FOOT HIGH ACROSS THE FRONT.
11:27:34 THIS IS FIVE FEET TALL WHICH FITS IN WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORS
11:27:37 HAVE.
11:27:38 WE HAVE MEASUREMENTS THAT WE WANT TO ENTER INTO EVIDENCE AS
11:27:43 WELL AND WE ALSO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF -- ONE IN PARTICULAR
11:27:47 LETTER FROM LYNN KANELLA, BUT SHE SAID OUR STRUCTURE IS
11:27:54 UNOCCUPIED.
11:27:55 THAT WAS FALSE.
11:27:57 SHE GAVE AN IDEA -- AND THESE ARE RECENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
11:28:00 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:28:01 SHE GAVE A BUFFER ZONE OF A QUARTER MILE, AND THIS DOESN'T
11:28:04 INCLUDE THE AIRBNB, DOESN'T INCLUDE THE QUARTER MILE FROM
11:28:08 HER HOUSE.
11:28:08 THERE'S FOUR SEX OFFENDERS DIRECTLY RIGHT IN OUR
11:28:11 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:28:12 SO I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY ARE GETTING WITH THIS.
11:28:15 THAT THE CRIME LOG WAS SUBMITTED FROM 2019 IS REMOTE.
11:28:18 IT'S NOT REMOTE BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE SHOWING IS THIS IS A
11:28:21 CONTINUING ISSUE.
11:28:23 WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM.
11:28:25 THEY LITERALLY HAVE DONE NOTHING.
11:28:27 I HAVE TAKEN PICTURES OF THE WOMAN THAT WAS PASSING AND THAT
11:28:30 APPROACHED MY NEIGHBOR, AND IF IT WASN'T FOR ME WITH THE
11:28:32 HELP OF MY NEIGHBOR AND THE TAMPA BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT,
11:28:35 THIS WOMAN WOULD STILL BE AT LARGE.
11:28:37 WE HAVE THAT PAPERWORK.
11:28:38 WE SENT IN THE FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW AND YOU CAN SEE, THIS
11:28:41 IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE ARE HAVING COME UP TO OUR
11:28:44 HOUSE.
11:28:44 SO THIS IS A SECURITY REASON.
11:28:46 WE HAVE EXISTING CAMERA AND SIGNAGE.
11:28:49 WE HAVE PICTURES OF THE PEOPLE TRESPASSING ON OUR PROPERTY
11:28:52 AND THE CAMERA DOES NOTHING OTHER THAN TAKE THEIR PHOTO, AND
11:28:55 GREAT, SO THAT'S NOTHING.
11:28:56 A WOMAN IS UP THERE STEALING MY ROCKS OR STEALING FRUIT,
11:29:00 IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO?
11:29:03 SO IT'S DISHEARTENING.
11:29:06 YOU KNOW, THE 6-FOOT FENCE ON THE FRONT OR THE SIDES OF THE
11:29:10 PROPERTY, WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS THAT ON THE BACKSIDE OF
11:29:14 OUR PROPERTY IS THE RIVER.
11:29:15 WE LITERALLY HAVE NO WAY TO RETREAT AND IT'S NOT OUR DUTY TO
11:29:19 RETREAT OUR PROPERTY BUT IF WE NEED TO RUN OUT OF OUR HOUSE
11:29:23 THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GO IS THE BACKYARD AND STARE AT THE
11:29:27 PEOPLE COMING IN OUR FRONT YARD.
11:29:28 I DON'T WANTS SOMEBODY BETWEEN ME AND MY HOUSE OR ME AND MY
11:29:32 FAMILY.
11:29:33 ONCE AGAIN IT'S A SECURITY I SHALL YOU HAVE.
11:29:35 WE ARE A RIVERFRONT COMMUNITY.
11:29:36 THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY TRUE STATEMENTS THAT'S IN THERE, YOU
11:29:40 KNOW.
11:29:41 HOUSES ARE IN THE 450 AT THE LOW END TO $1 MILLION.
11:29:45 OKAY, THAT'S FANTASTIC.
11:29:47 THIS IS A GREAT AREA.
11:29:48 BUT THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THAT ARE HERE.
11:29:50 THEY HAVE GARDEN TOURS.
11:29:51 I HAVE NICER PLANTS THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE GARDEN TOURS
11:29:54 SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS OR WHAT THIS IS.
11:29:57 THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FENCE.
11:29:59 WE HAVE -- ISSUES DIRECTLY RELATING TO CRIMES THAT ARE IN
11:30:06 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS PERSON APPARENTLY HAS TAKEN A
11:30:10 LIKING TO US, AND SAID THAT THERE'S NO CRIME THERE.
11:30:13 WE LITERALLY HAVE THE CRIME REPORTS THAT ARE THERE.
11:30:16 DID SHE NOT KNOW THAT THERE'S A SEX OFFENDER RIGHT DOWN THE
11:30:19 STREET FROM HER, WHILE THIS CRAZY PERSON WAS WALKING IN
11:30:23 FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY, THEY WENT TO ONE OF THE PROPERTIES OF
11:30:27 A PROTECTED ADDRESS AND WAS KNOCKING ON THE OR DOOR.
11:30:31 I WAS THE PERSON THAT WENT OVER THERE AND CHASED THIS LADY
11:30:33 AND GOT THIS LADY ARRESTED.
11:30:35 THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT I AM.
11:30:37 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
11:30:38 WE ARE IN A HARDSHIP.
11:30:40 WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR HELP.
11:30:41 WE JUST WANT A FIVE FOOT FENCE IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY
11:30:44 THAT'S OPEN AREA THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE STREET
11:30:47 AND THAT'S IT.
11:30:47 THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING TO DO.
11:30:49 IF YOU GUYS DO THAT FOR US THEN --
11:30:53 >> MELISSA.
11:30:54 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGES.
11:30:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE SAYING THAT EVERYONE ON YOUR
11:30:59 STREET HAS A FIVE OR SIX FOOT FENCE IN FRONT OF THEIR
11:31:01 PROPERTY?
11:31:03 >> YES, JUST ABOUT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE A FENCE --
11:31:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ASKED YOU, ALL THE PEOPLE ON THAT STREET
11:31:09 WHO HAVE A FRONT YARD WHICH YOU HAVE A FRONT YARD HAVE A
11:31:12 FIVE OR SIX FOOT FENCE?
11:31:15 >> NO, SIR, THEY DO NOT.
11:31:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ERIC, DO YOU KNOW WHAT ON THAT ROAD HOW
11:31:20 MANY HOUSES HAVE FENCING IN FRONT, AND WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF
11:31:25 THOSE FENCES?
11:31:26 >>ERIC COTTON: NO, SIR, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
11:31:29 >> WE HAVE ADDRESSES.
11:31:30 WE HAVE INFORMATION.
11:31:31 WE HAVE PHOTOS WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PRESENT TO YOU.
11:31:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS THE HEIGHT?
11:31:38 >> ABSOLUTELY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
11:31:41 LET ME PULL IT UP.
11:31:43 I'LL SHOW YOU.
11:31:45 SO LET ME SWITCH PLACES WITH YOU.
11:31:50 SO WE HAVE THE APPLICATION FROM OUR NEIGHBOR JUAN DAVIS
11:31:54 WHICH IS OUR NEIGHBOR IN FAVOR AND I SENT HIM A LETTER, TOO.
11:32:04 SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS ON OUR STREET.
11:32:06 THE ADDRESS --
11:32:08 >> 7214 NORTH OLA AVENUE.
11:32:11 >> THIS IS 7222 NORTH OLA AVENUE.
11:32:20 >> 7222 NORTH OLA AVENUE FOR THE RECORD.
11:32:23 >> THE HEIGHT HERE IS THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE.
11:32:26 THERE'S THE HEIGHT.
11:32:27 COLUMNS.
11:32:28 THERE'S THE HEIGHT OF THE GATE.
11:32:32 7302 NORTH OLA.
11:32:38 6 FEET.
11:32:40 6-FOOT FENCE PLUS LAMP ON TOP.
11:32:43 102 INCHES TALL.
11:32:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOW I AM KIND OF CLEAR WHAT YOU ARE
11:32:53 TALKING ABOUT.
11:32:53 >> THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY FENCES IN OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:32:56 THAT ACTUALLY HAS A 4-FOOT FENCE, VERY CLOSE IN FRONT.
11:32:59 >> 7306 NORTH OLA AVENUE.
11:33:02 >> SEAN: THIS IS ONE OF THE FENCES THAT WAS PERMITTED WITH
11:33:11 THE COLUMNS.
11:33:12 TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND WHAT WAS FENCED THERE, THE PEOPLE THAT
11:33:15 ARE ON OUR STREET, THAT IF YOU PUT A COLUMN IN YOU HAVE TO
11:33:20 GET BUILDING PERMITS.
11:33:21 SOME OF THESE ARE LEGAL BUT THEY ARE STILL STANDING.
11:33:23 >> 7514 WAS A PERMITTED FENCE.
11:33:29 >> SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY, 7710 NORTH OLA, POST 106,
11:33:37 GATE -- 56 TO 58.
11:33:40 >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THIS IS ONE OF THE AIR B&B'S
11:33:45 LOCATED ON OUR STREET, NORTH OLA AVENUE.
11:33:48 >> THIS IS 7500.
11:33:52 THIS IS THE WOMAN THAT I GUESS --
11:33:57 >> HAS A STRONG OPINION OF US.
11:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE LOST THE IMAGE.
11:34:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAY THE LADY THAT'S OPPOSED TO YOU,
11:34:14 THAT'S HER HOUSE?
11:34:15 >> THIS PICTURE AT 7500 --
11:34:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:34:21 I THINK WE NEED VIDEO.
11:34:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR SCREEN.
11:34:30 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
11:34:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK WE ARE GOING INTO AN AREA HERE
11:34:36 THAT'S VERY RISKY.
11:34:37 I APPRECIATE THE PETITIONER'S TIME.
11:34:41 BY THE WAY, WE ARE THE CITY OF TAMPA, KNOW IT THE CITY OF
11:34:44 TAMPA BAY, NUMBER ONE.
11:34:45 NUMBER TWO IS THAT ALL THESE STORIES ABOUT ILLEGAL FENCES,
11:34:50 THAT'S FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
11:34:57 WE HAVE THE CASE BASED ON ITS OWN MERIT, NOT DOWN THE STREET
11:35:00 OR ANYTHING ELSE.
11:35:02 THAT'S MY OPINION AND I AM GOING TO STOP RIGHT THERE.
11:35:04 >> I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
11:35:07 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE THE SCREEN.
11:35:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:35:14 NOW THE OVERHEAD.
11:35:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY PROBABLY WANT TO HEAR MR. MIRANDA.
11:35:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU COULD REPEAT THAT.
11:35:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST SAY I UNDERSTAND THE PETITIONER'S
11:35:24 POINT, PRESENT HIS CASE, AND IF THERE ARE ILLEGAL FENCES,
11:35:30 THAT'S UP TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:35:31 AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO OUT AND CITE THEM.
11:35:35 THIS IS NOT PART OF THE CASE.
11:35:40 >> WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU, TOO, THE PERSON THAT WAS
11:35:43 EXTREMELY OPPOSED TO IT.
11:35:45 THEY HAVE A FENCE THAT IS NOT WITHIN THE LEGAL TYPE OF
11:35:49 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:35:50 >> AND WAS NOT PERMITTED.
11:35:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT THE FENCE THAT YOU ARE --
11:35:53 >> A REQUIREMENT.
11:35:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS COUNCIL HEARD ME SAY THAT IT'S VERY
11:36:01 DANGEROUS TO HAVE THE OWNER, OR WHOEVER, BECAUSE ONCE YOU
11:36:05 HAVE A FENCE AND HAS OPENINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH, YOU
11:36:09 CAN SEE SOMEBODY IN YOUR BACKYARD WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING IN.
11:36:12 IF YOU ARE NOT YOU ARE RISKING YOUR LIFE AND YOU CAN'T
11:36:14 SEE --
11:36:15 >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:36:16 WE WANT TO HAVE THIS SAME EXACT STYLE FENCE --
11:36:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.
11:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:36:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WANT
11:36:30 TO GO WITH THIS.
11:36:31 MAYBE POSSIBLY CONTINUE IT.
11:36:33 WHAT CONCERNS ME IS -- AND I APPRECIATE THESE FOLKS GOING
11:36:40 OUT AND TAKING PICTURES, OKAY.
11:36:43 WHAT CONCERNS ME IS WE ARE NOT SEEING EVERY ADDRESS.
11:36:47 I MEAN, THE YOUNG LADY, WE APPRECIATE YOU SAID THIS ADDRESS,
11:36:51 THIS ADDRESS, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT SEEING EVERY
11:36:54 NEIGHBOR, WE ARE NOT SEEING EVERY HOUSE UP AND DOWN THE
11:36:57 STREET.
11:36:57 THERE ARE PROBABLY A FEW THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY FENCES,
11:37:00 THERE MIGHT BE A FEW THAT HAVE 3-FOOT FENCE OR 4-FOOT FENCE,
11:37:04 ALONG WITH THE 6-FOOT FENCE THAT YOU SHOWED US.
11:37:07 IT'S NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
11:37:10 NEXT TIME I WOULD URGE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW,
11:37:15 STAFF GOES ALONG AND TAKES ALL THOSE PICTURES SO WE HAVE A
11:37:18 COMPLETE RECORD IN TERMS OF HOW TO MAKE OUR DECISION.
11:37:22 >> ALSO IF I MAY ADD, THE PERSON THAT WAS IN GREAT
11:37:28 OPPOSITION TO THE FENCE, BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE GIVEN
11:37:31 INFORMATION OF THE FENCE BEING COMPLETELY OPAQUE, WE JUST
11:37:35 WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE SAME STYLE
11:37:37 FENCE, THAT SHE ACTUALLY ATTACHED THE STYLE OF FENCE THAT
11:37:42 SHE WOULD BE OKAY WITH, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
11:37:45 SHE ATTACHED MULTIPLE ONES AND SHE SAID THAT WE WANT THIS IN
11:37:48 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SHE ACTUALLY ATTACHED THESE, AND WE
11:37:51 HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH DOING A FENCE LIKE THAT,
11:37:54 EXACT ONES THAT SHE WAS OKAY WITH.
11:37:56 THOSE RANGE IN HEIGHTS FROM 55 INCHES TO 65 INCHES.
11:38:00 WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO ANY OF THESE STYLE ONES THAT
11:38:03 ARE RIGHT ON THE CORNER, AND THAT WAS IT.
11:38:06 I THINK THAT SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORS THOUGHT THAT WE WERE
11:38:09 PUTTING UP SOME TYPE OF BARRICADE OR SOME TYPE OF FALLOUT
11:38:14 SHELTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:38:15 WE WANT TO CONFORM.
11:38:16 WE DON'T HAVE AN HOA.
11:38:18 WE WANT TO HAVE EVERYTHING THE SAME AND ULTIMATELY WE WOULD
11:38:20 LIKE TO HAVE THE SECURITY.
11:38:21 I'M SORRY, I TALK A LOT.
11:38:23 WE ARE VERY PASSIONATE.
11:38:24 THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR US.
11:38:25 THIS IS OUR FIRST HOUSE.
11:38:27 WE PUT A LOT OF SWEAT EQUITY.
11:38:29 WE HAVE TAKEN OFF TODAY TO BE HERE.
11:38:31 WE ARE SUPER THANKFUL FOR YOU GUYS.
11:38:33 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THIS IS HOW
11:38:36 DESPERATE WE ARE.
11:38:37 WE NEED THE HELP.
11:38:38 WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN FOR
11:38:41 US AND HELP US OUT WITH IT.
11:38:43 WE DON'T WANT A SITUATION.
11:38:44 WE WANT TO BE THERE.
11:38:45 WE ARE NOT MOVING.
11:38:46 WE ARE NOT LEAVING.
11:38:46 I AM GOING TO DIE ON THAT PROPERTY, SO THIS IS SOMETHING FOR
11:38:49 US TO WORK OUT AND DO, YOU KNOW.
11:38:51 WE HAVE COULD HAVE EASILY JUST MET THAT NEIGHBOR --
11:38:55 >> THANK YOU.
11:38:56 >> YES, SIR.
11:38:57 THANK YOU.
11:38:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR MICROPHONE.
11:39:00 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO DO?
11:39:04 TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:39:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND CLOSE THE
11:39:07 HEARING.
11:39:07 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
11:39:10 ON ITEM 38?
11:39:11 WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
11:39:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD WE CONFIRM THERE'S NOBODY ELSE ON --
11:39:17 >>> IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR HERE IN PERSON THAT
11:39:20 WISHES TO SPEAK?
11:39:22 MR. WOLF, COULD YOU PEEK AROUND THE CORNER AND SEE IF
11:39:27 THERE'S ANYBODY THERE?
11:39:28 I DON'T THINK SO.
11:39:29 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:39:33 >> I DON'T SEE ANYONE.
11:39:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M FINE WITH MR. DINGFELDER TO LOOK AT A
11:39:39 CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM.
11:39:41 >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION WITH US TODAY.
11:39:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:45 IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE?
11:39:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MR. GUDES, I DO --
11:39:51 WHEN YOU DO MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU COULD BE SPECIFIC AS TO
11:39:54 WHAT IT IS THAT'S NOT IN THE RECORD TODAY THAT THIS COUNCIL
11:39:57 DETERMINES NEEDS TO BE IN THE RECORD IN ORDER TO MAKE THE
11:40:00 DECISION, AND I JUST ASK THAT YOU SET A BASIS FOR THE
11:40:06 PURPOSE OF THE CONTINUANCE SO THAT EVERYBODY IS CLEAR.
11:40:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF
11:40:13 GO OUT TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA, VIEW THE STREET, THE
11:40:18 PROPERTIES, SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT'S GOING ON ON
11:40:23 THAT STREET, AND IF THERE'S COMPLIANCE, NONCOMPLIANCE FOR
11:40:25 THIS PROPERTY, TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THAT STREET, FOR
11:40:29 THAT AREA.
11:40:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:40:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
11:40:35 AND COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER HAS HIS HAND UP.
11:40:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
11:40:41 COUNCILMAN GUDES, I'M SORRY.
11:40:43 THE INTENT OF THE MOTION IS FOR STAFF TO GO OUT THERE MAYBE
11:40:46 A BLOCK OR TWO ON EITHER SIDE, TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS, BRING BACK
11:40:52 ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND ALSO DO RESEARCH IN TERMS OF WHICH
11:40:56 OF THOSE FENCES ARE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL?
11:40:58 IS THAT PART OF IT?
11:41:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE
11:41:04 GRANDFATHERED HOUSES SO FORTH, THEY MAY BE GRANDFATHERED AND
11:41:08 DON'T KNOW.
11:41:08 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TOTAL SITUATION TO BRING BACK
11:41:12 COMPETENT EVIDENCE TO THIS BODY.
11:41:15 >> SECOND.
11:41:16 THANK YOU.
11:41:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:41:21 CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION?
11:41:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION FROM THE --
11:41:26 >>ERIC COTTON: YOU WANT STAFF TO GO OUT TWO BLOCKS FROM OLA
11:41:31 SPECIFICALLY?
11:41:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE RIVERSIDE, I THINK.
11:41:36 I THINK THAT'S MOST CRITICAL IS ON THE RIVERSIDE.
11:41:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS PROPERTY ALONG THE RIVERSIDE WHICH IS
11:41:46 ON THAT STREET, FIND OUT IF ANY EVERYBODY GRANDFATHERED IN,
11:41:52 IF WE HAVE ANY STIPULATIONS, IN REFERENCE TO GIVING US AN
11:41:55 IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE STREET.
11:41:57 I MEAN, I CAN'T USE -- I'M LOOKING AT ALONG THAT STREET.
11:42:07 THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO BE CLEAR WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
11:42:10 SIDES.
11:42:10 I WAS ASKING WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THE YARD, SIDE YARD, THE
11:42:15 FRONT OR BACK OF THE YARD.
11:42:17 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE CONTINUANCE
11:42:21 JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE HAD 30, 45 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE
11:42:24 PRESENTED.
11:42:24 I THINK WE HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION.
11:42:31 >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF MR. COTTON COULD PLEASE PUT ON
11:42:33 THE RECORD WHETHER OR NOT DURING HIS ANALYSIS FOR THE DESIGN
11:42:39 EXCEPTION WHETHER OR NOT HE CONSIDERED THOSE -- WHETHER OR
11:42:43 NOT IT'S ROLE ADJUVANT, THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE OTHER
11:42:47 PROPERTIES NEAR THE APPLICANT PETITIONER?
11:42:53 >>ERIC COTTON: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:42:55 STAFF DOES NOT LOOK AT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
11:42:59 WHEN A DESIGN EXCEPTION COMES IN, STAFF LOOKS AT WHAT IS
11:43:02 SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
11:43:03 THAT'S THE RECORD THAT'S CREATED.
11:43:05 THAT'S WHAT WE UTILIZE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
11:43:11 THE FACT THAT A PROPERTY 4 DOORS DOWN MIGHT HAVE A FENCE IN
11:43:15 THEIR FRONT YARD, AGAIN NOT KNOWING IF IT WAS LEGAL OR
11:43:18 ILLEGAL, AND WHEN IT WAS PUT UP, IN MOST CASES, WON'T KNOW
11:43:24 WHEN IT WAS ERECTED. WE DON'T TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
11:43:29 TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
11:43:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
11:43:33 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IN 27-60-E-5-E, WHICH IS ON THE
11:43:40 DOCUMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US, OUT OF OUR CITY CODE, AND
11:43:44 PART OF THE CRITERIA SAYS IF APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION OF
11:43:48 STANDARDS CONDITIONS AS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT THE
11:43:52 ADJUSTMENT GRANTED DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A GRANT OF SPECIAL
11:43:55 PRIVILEGES INCONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE
11:44:00 VICINITY AND WITHIN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
11:44:03 SO TO ME, THAT SUBPARAGRAPH E SPECIFICALLY INVITES US TO
11:44:09 LOOK AT THE OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE VICINITY.
11:44:14 I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN LOOK AT THIS IN A VACUUM.
11:44:19 BUT ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BIG LEGAL BATTLE, BUT
11:44:22 THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME.
11:44:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:44:25 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEN GUDES.
11:44:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD WE PICK A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN,
11:44:29 PLEASE?
11:44:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TELL ME, SIR.
11:44:31 I HAVE THE CALENDAR HERE.
11:44:33 WOULD YOU LIKE MAY 6th, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING?
11:44:39 WE HAVE MAY 20th, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
11:44:42 MAY 6th IS GETTING BUSY.
11:44:44 MAY 20th --
11:44:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAY 20.
11:44:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS MAY 20th OKAY?
11:44:55 >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
11:44:55 MAY 20th WILL GIVE ME PLENTY OF TIME TO GET OUT.
11:44:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES TO
11:45:00 CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 20 AT 10:30.
11:45:03 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:45:05 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:45:07 MIRANDA WITH THE SECOND?
11:45:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I DID.
11:45:11 >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE GET THE PETITIONER'S AGREEMENT?
11:45:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE SHOULD ASK PETITIONER IF THEY ARE
11:45:19 AGREEMENT.
11:45:20 THEY MAY WANT TO PROCEED TODAY.
11:45:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PETITIONER, MR. WOLF.
11:45:26 THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 20th.
11:45:29 ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?
11:45:31 OR WOULD --
11:45:34 >> I'M OKAY WITH IT.
11:45:35 I HAVE A BUNCH MORE EVIDENCE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO
11:45:39 OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR THAT ARE CLOSE THAT ARE IN
11:45:40 THE SAME PRICE RANGE.
11:45:42 WE HAVE ADDITIONAL POLICE REPORTS.
11:45:44 WE HAVE SEXUAL PREDATOR REPORTS.
11:45:46 WE HAVE POLICE REPORTS.
11:45:46 WE HAVE PICTURES THAT WERE ALSO ADDED.
11:45:50 WE CAME PREPARED.
11:45:52 UNFORTUNATELY, I TALK A LOT.
11:45:53 WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION.
11:45:54 SO IF YOU GUYS NEED THAT TIME TO LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, WE
11:45:58 WOULD LOVE TO SEND THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS
11:46:00 TO HAVE A VERY WELL-BALANCED IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND
11:46:03 WHAT FITS AESTHETICALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT TO ALLOW
11:46:06 ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGES.
11:46:07 THE VARIANCE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WE FEEL AS THOUGH IS
11:46:10 MINIMAL AND WOULDN'T BE A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE.
11:46:12 WE JUST WANT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ON THE STREET AND THAT
11:46:14 WOULD HELP US.
11:46:15 AT THAT POINT THE CITY HAS DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO HELP
11:46:18 US AND GRANT THAT VARIANCE.
11:46:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:23 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
11:46:25 AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
11:46:27 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:46:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON THE CONTINUANCE?
11:46:34 YES.
11:46:35 AYE.
11:46:35 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:46:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
11:46:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:46:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:46:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:46:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:46:47 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO, CARLSON AND
11:46:51 SIT ROB VOTING NO.
11:46:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:46:54 OKAY.
11:46:55 THE NEXT ITEM HAS A LOT OF REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
11:46:59 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S PEOPLE HERE IN PERSON.
11:47:01 I DO NOT WANT TO CUT THAT UP AND INTERRUPT IT.
11:47:05 SO WE ARE GOING TO BREAK NOW FOR LUNCH.
11:47:07 WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AT 1:30.
11:47:10 AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE.
11:47:12 WE HAVE ONE ITEM AND THEN WE GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER 39.
11:47:16 THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.
11:47:17 I APOLOGIZE TO ITEM 39 BUT WE WILL GET TO YOU ONCE WE
11:47:21 RECONVENE AT 1:30.
11:47:23 WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:47:27
11:47:48 [ TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECESS ]
01:28:16
01:28:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:33:55 I CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
01:33:59 MR. GRANDOFF ADMIRING THE TROPHY.
01:34:04 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:34:04 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:34:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:34:07 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:34:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:34:18 >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
01:34:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW.
01:34:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:34:26 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:34:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:34:29 COUNCILMAN CITRO, IS THIS YOURS?
01:34:32 NO?
01:34:33 ALL RIGHT.
01:34:35 YOUR MOTION.
01:34:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:34:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE VINCENT LOMBARDI TROPHY ON
01:34:43 DISPLAY HERE, AND WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA BAY
01:34:48 BUCCANEERS.
01:34:49 HERE THEY COME WITH OUR SUPER BOWL CHAMPION TAMPA BAY
01:34:53 BUCCANEERS.
01:34:55 WE HAVE BRYAN FORD.
01:34:58 AND WE HAVE CHIEF BON BENNETT FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:35:01 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL AND PUBLIC.
01:35:06 I KNOW COUNCIL HAS A PENDING COMMENDATION THAT THEY WANT TO
01:35:09 PICK A FUTURE DATE WITH WORKING WITH THE BUCCANEERS, BUT
01:35:13 BRIAN HAD ASKED TO COME DOWNTOWN AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
01:35:17 CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND SOME CITY STAFF TO HAVE
01:35:20 INTERACTION WITH THE LOMBARDI SUPER BOWL TROPHY AND OUR
01:35:24 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEER CHAMPIONS.
01:35:26 SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER FOR A FEW MINUTES TO
01:35:28 BRIAN, AND THEN COUNSEL CAN ENGAGE AND THEN WE HAVE A
01:35:31 SPECIAL RECOGNITION WHEN BRIAN IS DONE.
01:35:33 THANK YOU.
01:35:33 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
01:35:36 GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:35:37 JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
01:35:39 THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND TO THE SUPPORT ON
01:35:44 BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, JASON LIGHT, OUR GENERAL
01:35:47 MANAGER, OUR HEAD COACH BRUCE ARIANS AND OUR ENTIRE
01:35:53 ORGANIZATION.
01:35:53 WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, THE DOWNFALL, AND THE ENTIRE
01:35:56 COMMUNITY FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOU PROVIDED OVER THE LAST
01:35:58 YEAR.
01:36:00 AND OUR ROAD TO BRINGING BACK THIS LOMBARDI TROPHY IN FRONT
01:36:03 OF THE BEST FANS IN THE NFL AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
01:36:07 IT'S JUST TOTALLY HISTORIC, FIRST-TIME EVER, WE COULDN'T
01:36:12 HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT, AND THE
01:36:14 COMMUNITY'S SUPPORT.
01:36:16 WE SAID MANY TIMES WE HAVE THE BEST SPORTS FANS IN THE NFL
01:36:20 AND TAMPA IS TRULY TAMPA BAY SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK
01:36:23 YOU.
01:36:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:36:26 AND WE ARE -- I REMEMBER THE FIRST SUPER BOWL AND HOW
01:36:31 EXCITING IT WAS, JUST STARTING COLLEGE, AND NOW SEVERAL
01:36:35 YEARS LATER, GLAD TO SEE THE LOMBARDI TROPHY RETURNED.
01:36:39 ACTUALLY, IT WILL BE OUR SECOND ONE.
01:36:41 AND IT'S VERY, VERY EXCITING.
01:36:44 TOM BRADY PULLED IT OFF SO WE WANT TO THANK THE POWERS, YOU
01:36:49 KNOW, THAT MADE THIS ALL HAPPEN.
01:36:51 I'M GLAD THAT TOM BRADY CAME DOWN, AND BROKOWSKI AND THE
01:37:00 REST OF THE BUCCANEERS TEAM AND COACHES AND EVERYBODY
01:37:02 INVOLVED.
01:37:03 THIS IS HISTORIC.
01:37:04 THEY WON A SUPER BOWL AT HOME.
01:37:05 AND WE WON A STANLEY CUP A FEW MONTHS AGO.
01:37:09 SO TAMPA IS CHAMPA AND IT'S VERY, VERY EXCITING.
01:37:12 THANK YOU, SIR.
01:37:13 ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
01:37:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU DO NOT MIND, MR. CHAIR.
01:37:16 MR. FORD, WE ARE PROUD OF OUR TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS FOR THEIR
01:37:23 SUPER BOWL VICTORY.
01:37:25 BUT NOT ONLY THAT.
01:37:26 YOU COME DOWN AND YOU HELP US SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS, OUR
01:37:32 BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
01:37:35 YOU ALSO COME DOWN AND HONOR OUR BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN OF THE
01:37:38 TAMPA FIRE DEPARTMENT.
01:37:40 THE BUCCANEERS HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT CHARITIES THAT GO TO
01:37:45 HELP THE CITY OF TAMPA AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR
01:37:48 COMMUNITIES.
01:37:51 THANK YOU.
01:37:52 THANK THE BUCCANEERS.
01:37:54 THANK THE OWNERS.
01:37:55 NOT ONLY FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE
01:37:59 ICING ON THE CAKE WHICH IS THAT TROPHY BEHIND YOU.
01:38:03 THANK YOU, MR. FORD.
01:38:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:38:06 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:38:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, AS A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN A BALL
01:38:11 COACH AT MANY LEVELS, I UNDERSTAND THE GREATNESS WHEN YOU
01:38:15 BECOME A CHAMPION.
01:38:17 IT'S A FEELING OF NONE OTHER.
01:38:19 A LOT OF TIMES, BECOMING A CHAMPION, THE WORK YOU DO IN THE
01:38:26 COMMUNITY, I WAS AT THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING THE FIRST
01:38:30 ONE IN EAST TAMPA, BUCCANEERS STEPPED UP.
01:38:32 YEARS AGO WHEN SOMEONE STEALING EQUIPMENT FROM OUR YOUTH
01:38:38 PROGRAMS, AND SOME OF MY PROGRAMS GOT HIT, THE BUCCANEERS
01:38:42 STEPPED UP AND GAVE ME A PHONE CALL, AND THE DISTRICT 3
01:38:46 OFFICE, FOR THE GOOD OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
01:38:50 SO THOSE ARE THE EFFORTS OF BEING A CHAMPION, NOT JUST ON
01:38:54 THE FOOTBALL FIELD BUT OFF THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
01:38:57 AND A FACILITY THAT IS UPDATED, A SCOREBOARD, TURF.
01:39:08 THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WHEN YOU BUILD PROGRAMS THAT'S
01:39:11 ALL WELL RUN.
01:39:12 AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP THAT COHESIVENESS WITH THE TEAM.
01:39:18 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
01:39:20 >> THAT'S THE PLAN.
01:39:22 KEEP IT TOGETHER AND LET'S GO FOR TWO.
01:39:25 >>BILL CARLSON: I WON'T REPEAT EVERYTHING MY COLLEAGUES
01:39:28 SAID.
01:39:29 I WILL ECHO THAT.
01:39:30 CONGRATS TO YOU AND THE TEAM FOR THE BIG WIN AND FOR ALL THE
01:39:33 HARD WORK AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THE SUPER BOWL HERE, AND
01:39:36 HOPE WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE SOON, AND CONGRATS FOR RUNNING IT
01:39:40 WELL, AND ALSO CONGRATS TO THE CITY AND COUNTY AND EVERYONE
01:39:43 WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
01:39:45 BUT ALSO I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO BRIAN, JOEL AND THE GLAZER
01:39:49 FAMILY.
01:39:49 YOU MENTIONED THEM.
01:39:50 BUT THEY MADE A BIG INVESTMENT, WHAT WAS IT, 1995, AND THEY
01:39:55 ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GAME AND OUR COMMUNITY, AND
01:40:01 THEY HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY OVER THE YEARS, AND
01:40:03 PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THINGS
01:40:06 LIKE THE JCC, AND THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM AND OTHER REALLY
01:40:11 IMPORTANT PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY.
01:40:13 SO THANK YOU TO THEM FOR THEIR INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY,
01:40:15 TOO.
01:40:16 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
01:40:19 IT'S AN HONOR, A TREMENDOUS FAMILY.
01:40:21 THEY SET THE STAGE, AND VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM.
01:40:25 THANK YOU.
01:40:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:40:27 AND CHIEF BENNETT, YOU SAID YOU HAD A PRESENTATION, SIR?
01:40:30 >>JOHN BENNETT: STAND BY, MR. FORD.
01:40:36 THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE FOR THEM.
01:40:42 DURING THE PLANNING CYCLE AND DURING THE CITY'S PLANNING
01:40:45 CYCLE FOR SUPER BOWL 55 WE HAD BIWEEKLY MEETINGS AND THEN
01:40:52 WEEKLY MEETINGS, AND HAVING ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY LEADERS AS
01:40:57 WELL AS THE MOBILITY TEAM, THE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
01:41:01 GROUP, MINORITY BUSINESS GROUP, EVERY FACET THAT THE CITY
01:41:04 NEEDED TO HELP US WITH THIS EVENT, WORKING WITH THE
01:41:08 BUCCANEERS AND WORKING WITH THE TAMPA SPORTS COMMISSION TO
01:41:11 MAKE THIS A SUCCESS, WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT, BUT THERE WAS
01:41:15 ALWAYS ONE VOICE IN THE ROOM THAT WAS LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE
01:41:18 THAT NEEDED SPECIAL ACCESSIBILITY, AND THAT WAS RACK WELL
01:41:24 PONCHELL.
01:41:28 THERE WASN'T AN EVENT THAT SHE DIDN'T GRAB THE MIKE AND SAY
01:41:31 WHAT ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY FOR THIS EVENT?
01:41:34 AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHERE THE FOOTPRINT WAS, WHETHER IT WAS
01:41:37 OPEN SPACE OR CONTROLLED SPACE, RAQUEL CONSISTENTLY LOOKED
01:41:41 OUT AS OUR ADA AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES COORDINATOR.
01:41:46 SHE MADE SURE EVERY SINGLE EVENT WAS ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY
01:41:49 WHO WANTED TO ENJOY THE EVENTS IN AND SURROUNDING SUPER BOWL
01:41:54 55.
01:41:55 SO WITH THAT, MR. FORD HAS A SPECIAL PRESENTATION FOR
01:41:59 RAQUEL, AND I THINK THIS WOULD APPEAL TO -- I KNOW
01:42:03 COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT PLAYERS.
01:42:05 I KNOW COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKS A LOT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT
01:42:09 WE ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE IN OUR PARKS AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND
01:42:13 OUR STREETS.
01:42:13 AND SO RAQUEL IS THE CHAMPION OF THAT AND I THINK SHE WAS AN
01:42:17 UNSUNG HERO IN THIS AND I THINK SHE REALLY DESERVES THIS.
01:42:21 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:42:22 [ APPLAUSE ]
01:42:24 >> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT.
01:42:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:42:33 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:42:35 I ALWAYS TRULY APPRECIATE MAYOR CASTOR'S AND CHIEF BENNETT
01:42:44 ADA ACCESS.
01:42:46 THE DEDICATION TO ACCESS DOESN'T START ON THE GROUND LEVEL,
01:42:49 IT ACTUALLY STARTS TO DOWN, AND WHEN THE TOP ADMINISTRATORS
01:42:53 BELIEVE IN ACCESS FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, ACCESS
01:42:56 TRULY HAPPENS, BECAUSE THEY INSTILL THE MESSAGE TO THE TEAM.
01:43:00 SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR YOU, MAYOR CASTOR,
01:43:06 AND ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO REQUEST FOR SOME ASSISTANCE,
01:43:12 BUT IF IT WEREN'T FOR ALL THE HELP THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE
01:43:17 CAREER WITH THE CITY WE REALLY WOULD NOT BE ACCESSIBLE.
01:43:20 SO THIS IS ALL OF THEIR WORK AND I AM TRULY, TRULY GRATEFUL.
01:43:23 THANK YOU.
01:43:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:43:26 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANKS, COUNCIL.
01:43:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:43:31 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
01:43:34 RAQUEL, I JUST WASN'T GOING TO TAKE COUNCIL'S TIME OUT
01:43:38 BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT NOW WHAT?
01:43:41 FOR YOU, RAQUEL, I SURE AS HECK WILL.
01:43:45 I'M A BIG FAN OF YOURS AS YOU KNOW.
01:43:46 YOU DON'T JUST DO YOUR JOB.
01:43:48 YOU ARE NOT JUST THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A JOB TITLE.
01:43:51 YOU WEAR IT ON YOUR SLEEVE AND IN YOUR HEART.
01:43:53 AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE DISABILITY
01:43:57 COMMUNITY, THEY TRUST YOU.
01:43:58 THEY TRUST YOU.
01:43:59 AND THAT'S A COMMUNITY.
01:44:01 I KNOW IT BECAUSE MY FAMILY COMES FROM IT BECAUSE OF MY
01:44:04 OLDEST BROTHER JUAN.
01:44:05 THAT'S A COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T TRUST EASILY.
01:44:08 SO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY REALLY, REALLY TRUST
01:44:12 YOU.
01:44:12 YOU DO A GREAT JOB IN STARTING WITH THE MAYOR'S
01:44:15 AUTISM-FRIENDLY COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE THEN.
01:44:19 WE HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT OF THINGS FOR DISABILITY-RELATED
01:44:23 ISSUES IN TAMPA, BUT TO QUOTE THE CARPENTERS, WE HAVE ONLY
01:44:26 JUST BEGUN, AND WE HAVE A LONG ROAD AHEAD, A LONG ROAD
01:44:31 AHEAD.
01:44:31 SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ABSOLUTE YOU.
01:44:35 YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
01:44:36 YOU HAVE MY RESPECT.
01:44:37 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:44:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:44:44 ALL RIGHT.
01:44:44 ARE WE GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO CLEAR IT OUT?
01:44:49 >> YOU CAN LEAVE IT HERE.
01:44:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT CAN END UP IN THE JEWELRY STORE
01:45:02 SOMEWHERE.
01:45:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND IT'S MADE BY TIFFANY.
01:45:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE YOU GO.
01:45:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHILE WE WAIT FOR THAT, DO YOU WANT TO
01:45:22 GO TO NEW BUSINESS OR JUST WAIT A FEW MINUTES?
01:45:27 ALL RIGHT, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS?
01:45:30 JUST GO DOWN THE ROAD.
01:45:31 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS, SIR?
01:45:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
01:45:41 SO I WOULD LIKE -- THIS IS GOING TO COME UP LATER, BUT AS
01:45:45 LONG AS YOU ARE ASKING FOR NEW BUSINESS NOW, AT LAST
01:45:49 FRIDAY'S MEETING WITH THE GANDY FOLKS, THE MAYOR WAS THERE.
01:45:55 I DON'T THINK ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE THERE.
01:45:57 BUT THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS PUT TOGETHER A 14-POINT
01:46:01 REQUEST, AND I THINK THEY HAVE PROVIDED TO ALL MEMBERS OF
01:46:04 COUNCIL AT SOME POINT OVER THE LAST WEEK, AND WHAT I WOULD
01:46:09 LIKE TO SEE US DO -- YOU NOTICE WHAT, MR. CHAIRMAN?
01:46:13 LET ME BRING THIS UP LATER.
01:46:15 IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW.
01:46:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NOTICE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION LATER.
01:46:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST GIVE ME A SHOT LATER.
01:46:20 OTHER THAN THAT, I ASKED CHIEF BENNETT TO GIVE US A COVID
01:46:25 UPDATE WHEN HE GIVES HIS CHIEF OF STAFF REPORT TODAY, BUT I
01:46:27 DON'T THINK THAT REQUIRES A VOTE.
01:46:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:46:31 AFTER 39 WE ARE DOING ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
01:46:35 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:46:36 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
01:46:38 I WOULD LIKE -- APRIL IS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH.
01:46:42 I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SPECIAL NEEDS MOTHER PHYLLIS GUFFMAN
01:46:48 TO PROVIDE A 2 TO 4 MINUTE PRESENTATION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL,
01:46:53 APRIL 18th CITY COUNCIL DATE.
01:46:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:46:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:46:58 AYE.
01:46:58 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION FOR NEW TAMPA
01:47:01 RESIDENT JOE MORALES, BE GIVEN OFF-SITE.
01:47:05 THIS GUY RECENTLY DONATED A KIDNEY.
01:47:07 WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A YOUNGSTER BY THE NAME OF ROG, A
01:47:13 13-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO NEEDED A KIDNEY AND MR. MORALES READ
01:47:18 ABOUT THIS BOY, NEVER MET HIM, AND HE GAVE HIM A KIDNEY.
01:47:21 I WANT TO GIVE HIM A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
01:47:25 I WOULD DO OF OFF-SITE.
01:47:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:47:29 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
01:47:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:47:31 ALL RIGHT.
01:47:31 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
01:47:34 YOU KNOW WHAT?
01:47:35 I WILL ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THIS -- STRIKE THAT.
01:47:37 I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS DURING THE FAIR ISSUE.
01:47:40 ANOTHER ISSUE IS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT -- I WAS TALKING
01:47:43 WITH MARTY AND ANDREA ABOUT THE, WHAT IS IT, THE ROUGH
01:47:49 RIDERS MEMORIAL DAY PARADE.
01:47:53 I CALLED UP A COUPLE OF GOLD STAR FAMILIES IN THE BREAK JUST
01:47:58 TO DISCUSS IT, AND I WANT TO MOTION -- I WAS GOING TO TRY TO
01:48:01 REOPEN AND HAVE SOME RECONSIDERATION ON THAT SO THAT WE
01:48:04 COULD TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE, AND APPARENTLY WE CAN'T.
01:48:08 THE CONTENT OF PARADES IS SOMETHING THAT IF OPENS UP LEGAL
01:48:14 ISSUES SO I RESPECT THAT AND AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
01:48:16 BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST TO GET A SENSE OF
01:48:20 COUNCIL -- MEMORIAL DAY, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE ROUGH
01:48:24 RIDERS, THE MOST WELL KNOWN ROUGH RIDERS IN AMERICA IS
01:48:28 ROOSEVELT WHO -- QUINTON ROBINSON -- OH, MY GOD.
01:48:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE A RECESS?
01:48:40 >>LUIS VIERA: QUINTIN ROOSEVELT WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN
01:48:44 WORLD WAR I.
01:48:47 THAT'S MY -- OKAY.
01:48:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
01:48:50 BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU.
01:48:52 MAYBE WE COULD RECONSIDER THAT ITEM AND PUT IT OFF FOR A
01:48:55 WEEK SO WE CAN GET A BETTER SENSE INFORMALLY ABOUT WHAT
01:49:00 THAT --
01:49:02 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I SPOKE TO MR. SHELBY ABOUT THAT AND
01:49:05 APPARENTLY THAT WOULD PUT US -- I'LL LET YOU SPEAK, BECAUSE
01:49:07 THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, JOHN, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.
01:49:10 IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.
01:49:12 AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO SAY THIS, BY THE WAY.
01:49:15 I HAVE NO DOUBT, NO DOUBT THAT WHEN THIS ISSUE IS BROUGHT
01:49:18 UP, IT IS A PARADE THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MEMORIAL
01:49:22 DAY IS INTENDED TO BE.
01:49:24 I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT'S GOING TO BE REMEDIED.
01:49:26 THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE IN DISPUTE.
01:49:28 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
01:49:33 AND WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING, WE LOOKED AT THE SPECIAL
01:49:37 EVENT PERMITS CODE SECTION, AND IT SPECIFICALLY,
01:49:41 28-31-28-32, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CODE, THE WAY SPECIAL
01:49:50 EVENT PERMITS ARE ISSUED, THE CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT
01:49:54 WHAT REQUIREMENT OR REAPPLICATION COUNCIL HAS, BUT
01:49:59 BASICALLY, IT'S A NONDISCRETIONARY.
01:50:02 IF THE OFFICIAL DETERMINES THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE,
01:50:06 AND COMPLIES WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, THEY ARE
01:50:10 ISSUED THE PERMIT.
01:50:11 THE PERMIT DOES COME TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT ALSO SAYS IN
01:50:17 28-32-B, I BELIEVE IT IS, THAT COUNCIL SHALL REVIEW AND
01:50:23 APPROVE IT IF THE APPLICATION MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF
01:50:26 THE CODE.
01:50:26 SO IT'S REALLY NONDISCRETIONARY.
01:50:28 YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DENY A FINDING OF
01:50:35 NONCOMPLIANCE OF SOME PROVISION OF THE CODE WHICH AGAIN THE
01:50:38 OFFICIAL WOULDN'T HAVE SET IT HERE FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL
01:50:41 BUT HAVING FOUND THAT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE, SO IT'S KIND
01:50:43 OF AN ODD APPROVAL PROCESS IN THAT SENSE, BUT IT IS REALLY
01:50:47 NONDISCRETIONARY, AND OBVIOUSLY FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT
01:50:52 REASONS, PARADES HAVE TO BE CONTENT NEUTRAL, I MEAN, THE
01:51:03 SKOKIE, WE CAN'T DENY A PERMIT BUT WE DON'T THINK IT'S
01:51:06 APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR PARADE ON THAT
01:51:08 PARTICULAR DAY.
01:51:09 SO AS WE DISCUSSED, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE MAYBE TO REACH
01:51:14 OUT TO THE ROUGH RIDERS IN SOME CAPACITY --
01:51:18 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
01:51:20 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD A QUESTION?
01:51:22 IF YOU WANT TO, GO AHEAD.
01:51:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR MS. ZELMAN AND I DON'T DISAGREE
01:51:27 BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T CONTINUE IT FOR A
01:51:30 WEEK, GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF IN TERMS OF WHAT
01:51:32 THAT APPLICATION SAYS, WHAT THE EXTENT OF IT IS, IS ALCOHOL
01:51:35 GOING TO BE INVOLVED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
01:51:39 AND CROSS THAT BRIDGE.
01:51:41 I AM GOING TO SAY TWO WEEKS.
01:51:43 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NEXT WEEK IS CRA.
01:51:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT YOU COULD HAVE A SPECIAL SLOT.
01:51:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO SET UP A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING IS A
01:51:55 HERCULEAN PROJECT FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR ONE ITEM.
01:51:57 >>LUIS VIERA: CAN WE DO IT DURING THE EVENING SESSION?
01:52:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE PROBABLY CAN IF YOU WISH.
01:52:05 HERE IS MY QUESTION, COUNCIL.
01:52:07 AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBERS' CONCERNS.
01:52:09 BUT ASSUMING ALL THAT INFORMATION COMES BACK, STILL WHAT
01:52:13 BASIS WOULD YOU HAVE TO DENY IT?
01:52:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T SEPARATE IN TERMS OF WHAT-IFS.
01:52:19 IF WE WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO
01:52:21 GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND A ONE WEAK CONTINUANCE IS NOT
01:52:24 BURDENSOME ON ANYBODY.
01:52:25 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS THAT WE
01:52:29 MERELY SEND A MESSAGE FROM CITY COUNCIL REQUESTING THAT THIS
01:52:33 PARADE, IF IT'S NOT -- BECAUSE AGAIN THERE ARE CITIES THAT
01:52:36 DO MEMORIAL -- AND THAT'S WHY I WAS INTERESTED -- THERE ARE
01:52:39 CITIES THAT DO MEMORIAL PARADES THAT ARE VERY SOLEMN BUT
01:52:43 IT'S NOT THAT WE URGE IT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DAY.
01:52:47 THAT'S IT.
01:52:48 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BODY TO SPEAK OUT ON THAT
01:52:50 ISSUE.
01:52:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
01:52:55 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AGAIN MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE WAY IN WHICH
01:52:57 THE CODE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN.
01:53:00 THE ONLY GROUNDS FOR DENIAL BY CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE A
01:53:03 FINDING THAT THE APPLICATION DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE CODE --
01:53:06 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN
01:53:09 THAT, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
01:53:12 IS GOING UNTIL I SPOKE TO YOU ALL.
01:53:16 THAT'S MY ONLY MOTION THAT I AM MAKING IN THIS REGARD, IS
01:53:18 SIMPLY A SENSE OF COUNCIL IN THAT REGARD.
01:53:20 AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE EVERYBODY AGREES WITH, BUT IT
01:53:24 WOULD BOTHER MY CONSCIENCE A LOT IF I DIDN'T DO THAT.
01:53:28 IT JUST WOULD.
01:53:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
01:53:31 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:53:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:53:33 I AM SPEAKING AS A COUNCILMEMBER, NOT AS A ROUGH RIDER.
01:53:42 THIS IS A PARADE IN WHICH WE ARE GOING TO BE HONORING SO
01:53:45 MANY OF OUR PEOPLE, AND NOT -- I JUST WOULD LIKE TO READ OUT
01:53:49 SOMETHING THAT HAS COME TO ME FROM A PERSON IN CHARGE.
01:53:55 IT SAYS, HI, JOE.
01:53:59 I AM CONTACTING YOU FROM THE ROUGH RIDERS.
01:54:01 THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING REGARDING THE ROUGH RIDERS' PARADE.
01:54:05 PLEASE LET COUNCILMAN VIERA KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY
01:54:07 PLANNING A HOMETOWN HEROS CELEBRATION OF OUR FORCES PARADE.
01:54:18 I THINK -- EXCUSE ME, I HATE TO USE THAT PHRASE I THINK
01:54:21 BECAUSE I AM RUNNING ON EMOTIONS.
01:54:24 I KNOW THE ROUGH RIDERS ARE GOING TO HAVE A MEMORIAL DAY
01:54:27 PARADE, AND WE ARE A -- A MILITARY STYLE KREWE ORGANIZATION
01:54:38 REPRESENTING THE GOOD THINGS THAT THE ROUGH RIDERS AND TED I
01:54:41 ROOSEVELT DID.
01:54:42 WE ARE GOING TO HONOR OUR MILITARY, ESPECIALLY ON MEMORIAL
01:54:46 DAY, IN A WAY THAT WE SHOULD.
01:54:51 IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL, IN MY OPINION, TO
01:54:56 DICTATE ANY OTHER PARADES, STANDARDS, EXCEPT THOSE THAT ARE
01:55:02 IN OUR CODES.
01:55:04 WITH NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY, BUT I FEEL THIS IS STARTING TO
01:55:07 BECOME A LITTLE OVERBOARD.
01:55:11 I CAN GIVE THE ASSURANCE THAT MY COOPERATION WITH THE ROUGH
01:55:16 RIDERS, AS A MEMBER, WE WILL ENSURE -- I WILL ENSURE THAT
01:55:21 ALL ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO
01:55:24 PARTICIPATE IN THIS PARADE.
01:55:29 IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN EASTER DAY PARADE, WILL WE BE
01:55:32 DICTATING ON HOW THE BUNNIES WILL BE DRESSED?
01:55:37 NOTHING FURTHERMORE, MR. CHAIR.
01:55:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:55:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIMES WE MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE
01:55:44 COMPLICATED THAN IT HAS TO BE.
01:55:46 AND I HEAR WHAT MS. ZELMAN WAS SAYING ABOUT THE CODE.
01:55:50 AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP SAYING SOME OF THESE CODES INTERTWINE
01:55:55 AND GET CONFUSING.
01:55:56 BUT I WASN'T HEARING ABOUT A DENIAL AT ALL.
01:56:01 I WAS HEARING A POINT OF DISCUSSION.
01:56:05 AND THIS COULD END UP WITH ABOUT THE PARADE, SO TO ME, MR.
01:56:15 DINGFELDER WAS ASKING FOR US TO CONTACT THE ROUGH RIDERS
01:56:18 PARADE AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF INVOLVEMENT WITH
01:56:21 THE PARADE.
01:56:23 AND MR. CITRO ALREADY CLEARED THAT UP.
01:56:25 AND THE ARMED FORCES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
01:56:28 SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH STAFF OR THE SPECIAL DIVISION
01:56:36 WHOEVER DOES PARADE TO MEET WITH THE ROUGH RIDERS AND SEE
01:56:39 WHAT THEY CAN DO, OR JUST GET TOGETHER.
01:56:41 SO I THINK JUST PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
01:56:45 I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT, SEE IF WE CAN
01:56:49 CONTACT MR. CITRO'S CONTACT, WORK WITH THEM, MAKE EVERYBODY
01:56:55 HAPPY, YOU KNOW.
01:56:57 I ALWAYS TELL EVERYBODY JUST LIKE SOME OF THE ISSUES ON 46,
01:57:02 WHATEVER IT IS, IF WE TALK ABOUT ISSUES, WHEN I GO SOMEWHERE
01:57:08 AND I HAVE PEOPLE IN DISPUTE, THEY CAN'T COMPROMISE, BUT
01:57:14 ONCE YOU GET ALL PARTIES TOGETHER, I ALWAYS SAY, YOU HAVE TO
01:57:19 BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO HEAR EVERYONE'S SIDE.
01:57:21 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY ALL THE TIME.
01:57:25 YOU ARE JUST NOT.
01:57:26 BUT YOU CAN COME TO A GOOD CONSENSUS, YOU CAN MAKE ANYTHING
01:57:31 WORK.
01:57:31 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING DIFFICULT WITH THIS AT ALL, IF MR.
01:57:35 CITRO CAN GET WITH MR. VIERA OR SPECIAL USE PERMITS,
01:57:39 RECREATION, SEE HOW WE CAN HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
01:57:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:57:46 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:57:47 AGAIN, I THINK IT'S NOT COMPLICATED AT ALL.
01:57:51 MERELY A REQUEST THAT THE PARADE BE DONE IN A MANNER THAT IS
01:57:55 CONSISTENT WITH THE SOLEMN NATURE OF MEMORIAL DAY.
01:57:59 THAT'S IT.
01:58:00 IF IT IS GOING TO BE TERMED A MEMORIAL DAY PARADE, THAT'S
01:58:03 IT.
01:58:03 I AM NOT LOOKING INTO DENYING THIS, BECAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T,
01:58:07 I'M TOLD, ET CETERA, AND THAT'S FINE.
01:58:08 BUT THAT'S IT.
01:58:09 JUST A SIMPLE REQUEST.
01:58:11 I DON'T THINK THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL.
01:58:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE MOTION, WRITE A LETTER?
01:58:15 >>LUIS VIERA: A SENSE OF COUNCIL.
01:58:17 I WON'T EVEN DO ALERT.
01:58:19 JUST A SENSE OF COUNCIL ASKING THE PARADE BE DONE IN A WAY
01:58:21 THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SOLEMN NATURE OF MEMORIAL DAY.
01:58:24 THAT'S IT.
01:58:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:58:28 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:58:30 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:58:33 ANY OPPOSED?
01:58:35 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
01:58:36 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING AT ALL.
01:58:38 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
01:58:39 WELL, NOW WHAT?
01:58:40 I'M DONE.
01:58:41 THANK YOU.
01:58:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, ANY NEW BUSINESS,
01:58:45 SIR?
01:58:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
01:58:47 AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AT A TIME SPECIFIED
01:58:52 LATER TO COACH JOSE AND THE USF WOMEN'S BASKETBALL GROUP,
01:59:03 TEAM, FOR THE GREAT JOB THEY DID.
01:59:04 THEY WON THEIR DIVISION.
01:59:07 THEY WENT TO MARCH MADNESS AND THEY HAD ONE HELL OF A YEAR.
01:59:13 SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION AND WORK OUT
01:59:17 LOGISTICS.
01:59:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
01:59:19 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:59:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:59:23 ANY OPPOSED?
01:59:25 ALL RIGHT.
01:59:25 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
01:59:29 COUNCILMAN CITRO?
01:59:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT.
01:59:32 I'M FINISHED.
01:59:33 THANK YOU.
01:59:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAIR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THIS
01:59:36 AFTERNOON, THIS MORNING.
01:59:37 YOU KNOW, WE LOST ANOTHER CITY WORKER ABOUT A WEEK AND A
01:59:42 HALF AGO IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION.
01:59:44 SHE WAS VERY, VERY LOVED, CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY THERE.
01:59:48 I WENT TO THE CANDLELIGHT VIGIL LAST FRIDAY.
01:59:51 MYSELF AND THE MAYOR ATTENDED.
01:59:54 SERVICE IS GOING TO BE HELD THIS WEEK.
01:59:55 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF SENATOR
02:00:00 ISAAC, A RECREATION SUPERVISOR WHO PASSED AWAY, AFTER A
02:00:06 COURAGEOUS BATTLE WITH BREAST CANCER, PRESENTED TO THE
02:00:08 FAMILY ON FRIDAY, APRIL 2nd.
02:00:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:00:13 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:00:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:00:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A COUPLE MORE, SIR.
02:00:20 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT DEAL WITH
02:00:22 THE CHARTER, AND DEAL WITH POWER, AND DEAL WITH SALARIES AND
02:00:30 SO FORTH.
02:00:33 I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH IN REFERENCE TO THE CLERK'S
02:00:36 OFFICE.
02:00:39 AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY
02:00:42 CLERK'S OFFICE IS -- BE ABLE TO FUNCTION, THE CITY CLERK IS
02:00:47 A CHARTER OFFICER WHO WORKS FOR BOTH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY
02:00:50 COUNCIL.
02:00:51 RECOGNIZING THE SEPARATION OF POWERS, WE UNDERSTAND
02:00:55 ADMINISTRATION'S ROLE BUT WE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
02:00:57 BUDGET, AND THIS IS A BUDGETARY ISSUE.
02:00:59 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAVE
02:01:01 THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO SUPPORT CITY COUNCIL, AND IF
02:01:05 EMPLOYEES IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE ARE FULLY COMPENSATED FOR
02:01:07 WHAT THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHING.
02:01:09 THEREFORE, I MOTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO REQUEST
02:01:11 ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ISSUES AND IN
02:01:15 ITS JUDGMENT DETERMINE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
02:01:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:01:20 SECOND FROM DINGFELDER.
02:01:23 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WERE YOU THE SECOND?
02:01:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
02:01:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR?
02:01:27 ANY OPPOSED?
02:01:28 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:01:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST MOTION, AS YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF YOU
02:01:33 MAY HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM SEVERAL POTENTIAL CANDIDATES
02:01:37 FOR HIRE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AS RELATES TO OUR PUBLIC
02:01:41 SAFETY AREAS REFERENCE TO OUR POLYGRAPH.
02:01:45 I GOT ZOO INTO A DISCUSSION WITH CHIEF BENNETT, SENT OUT A
02:01:50 MEMO SEEKING INFORMATION.
02:01:53 AT THIS TIME I DID MEET WITH CHIEF BENNETT, AND HE CONCURRED
02:01:58 PROBABLY A WORKSHOP IS BEST, AND MAKE A MOTION THAT THE
02:02:00 OFFICE OF CITY STAFF WORK WITH THE POLICE, FIRE AND -- TO
02:02:04 COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON A MAY OR JUNE DATE AND SPEAK TO THE
02:02:10 THOSE IN THE -- DEPARTMENT, AND [~DISTORTION~], AND OF A
02:02:20 SPECIAL PROCESS.
02:02:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:02:23 DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:02:26 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
02:02:29 YES, MA'AM?
02:02:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND GIFTS OF GIVE
02:02:34 US A DATE BECAUSE OF THE ENFORCEMENT INFORMATION.
02:02:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:02:41 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:02:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:02:44 ALL RIGHT.
02:02:44 ANY OPPOSED?
02:02:46 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
02:02:49 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
02:02:50 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TWO THINGS REAL FAST.
02:02:54 YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER A YEAR OR SO AGO YOU ALL INDULGED ME TO
02:02:59 PRESENT FOR TEN MINUTES ON WHAT I CALL TAMPA'S SCORECARD.
02:03:02 SINCE THEN, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CAROLE POST HAD TAKEN THE
02:03:07 ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE INITIATED AND THEY ARE GOING
02:03:12 TO BE PRESENTING SOMETIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT
02:03:16 WHAT THE PLANS ARE.
02:03:17 BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I HAVE GOT AN UPDATE ON THE TAMPA
02:03:19 SCORECARD.
02:03:20 WOULD YOU ALL ALLOW ME TEN MINUTES TO PRESENT AT THE NEXT
02:03:23 WORKSHOP?
02:03:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP?
02:03:26 TEN MINUTES?
02:03:27 LET'S SEE.
02:03:28 THE NEXT WORKSHOP IS THE 22ND.
02:03:32 SO LET'S GET THE WORKSHOPS THAT ARE ALREADY LISTED OUT OF
02:03:35 THE WAY.
02:03:37 9 A.M.
02:03:37 IS THAT OKAY?
02:03:39 SO THAT'S FOR APRIL 22ND AT 9 A.M.
02:03:42 BUT AT THE LAST WORKSHOP.
02:03:44 >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S AN AWKWARD THING TO ASK FOR MYSELF BUT
02:03:48 IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.
02:03:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS THE MOTION.
02:03:54 COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS THE SECOND.
02:03:56 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:03:57 ANY OPPOSED?
02:03:57 ALL RIGHT, SIR.
02:03:58 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:03:59 I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC AND ALL OF US TO
02:04:03 GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND I THINK THERE'S A SEA
02:04:06 CHANGE ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT OUR DATA, AND THEN THE OTHER
02:04:09 THING IS THAT THIS IS SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' REQUEST
02:04:12 JUST NOW, AND IF YOU THINK IT APPROPRIATE, WE CAN ADD THIS
02:04:15 ON.
02:04:15 BUT SINCE OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LAST WEEK
02:04:18 I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS ABOUT THE PAST HISTORY, NOT CURRENT
02:04:23 BUT PAST HISTORY ABOUT MINORITY RIGHTS AND FEMALE RIGHTS IN
02:04:30 THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
02:04:31 AND THE FOLKS WHO CALLED ME WERE JUST LIKE FOR CHIEF TRIPP
02:04:36 TO COME, GIVE A REPORT ON HER PLANS TO ADDRESS THE AT LEAST
02:04:40 THE PAST PERCEIVED INEQUITIES FOR FEMALES AND MINORITIES.
02:04:46 I THINK THERE'S A STRONG FEELING OUT THERE THAT CHIEF TRIPP
02:04:49 IS GOING TO LEAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
02:04:54 AND OTHERS ARE COMMITTED TO THIS BUT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY
02:04:58 WE JUST LIKE TO HEAR WHAT HER PLANS ARE FOR THAT REGARD.
02:05:02 SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK CHIEF TRIPP TO COME
02:05:05 BACK.
02:05:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN?
02:05:09 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN IS THERE A TIME?
02:05:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MEAN, IS IT SOMETHING YOU WANT RIGHT
02:05:12 AWAY?
02:05:14 IF NOT WE CAN PUT IT MAY 20th.
02:05:16 >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 20th.
02:05:21 DO YOU WANT TO ADD IT?
02:05:22 OKAY.
02:05:22 SO I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO MAY 5th FOR --
02:05:28 IF THAT'S OKAY.
02:05:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THE
02:05:35 POLYGRAPH?
02:05:38 >> IS IT MAY 20?
02:05:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COULD WE SAY TO BE DETERMINED?
02:05:42 LET'S DO IT MAY 20th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
02:05:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:05:46 SO THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR CHIEF TRIPP TO REPORT ON HER
02:05:50 PLANS TO ADDRESS HOW TO BUILD POLICIES FOR EQUITABLE
02:05:59 TREATMENT OF MINORITY AND FEMALE FIREFIGHTERS.
02:06:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:06:05 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:06:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:06:08 ANY OPPOSED?
02:06:09 ANYTHING ELSE?
02:06:09 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
02:06:14 JUST WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, I HAD A CONVERSATION
02:06:16 WITH CHIEF TRIPP MAYBE TWO WEEKS OR SO AGO ON SOME OF THOSE
02:06:20 ISSUES, INCLUDING WOMEN'S ADVISORY BOARD, A COUPLE OF
02:06:25 DIFFERENT THINGS, AND JUST TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THOSE
02:06:28 ISSUES, I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN CHIEF TRIPP.
02:06:33 I THINK SHE'S A GOOD WOMAN.
02:06:34 I THINK SHE FEELS PASSIONATELY IN HER HEART ON ISSUES OF
02:06:38 DIVERSITY AND PLURALISM.
02:06:40 AND I HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT SHE'S GOING TO DO --
02:06:47 AS WE ALL AGREED, BY THE WAY, BUT JUST TO SAY THESE ARE
02:06:50 ISSUES THAT SHE'S ON.
02:06:51 SO I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE HER TALK ABOUT THAT,
02:06:55 BECAUSE SHE FEELS PASSIONATELY ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.
02:06:58 >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANYONE WHO
02:07:03 DOESN'T HAVE FULL FAITH IN CHIEF TRIPP AND THE MAYOR, SO WE
02:07:07 LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THEIR IDEAS, AND I THINK IT WILL BE
02:07:10 GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT THEY ARE ADDRESSING THOSE
02:07:13 ISSUES.
02:07:14 THANK YOU.
02:07:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD A MOTION -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
02:07:17 YOU MADE A MOTION.
02:07:19 SECOND WAS GUDES?
02:07:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:07:22 WE DID?
02:07:26 ALL RIGHT.
02:07:26 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS, SIR?
02:07:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
02:07:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
02:07:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A LETTER THAT I RECEIVED.
02:07:38 I'M SURE MOST OF US RECEIVED IT, NOT ALL OF US, FROM DON AND
02:07:43 CAROL BORREL, A PROBLEM THEY HAVE ON 501 WEST PARIS IN THE
02:07:49 CITY OF TAMPA, AND THEY HAVE -- WE HAVE PICTURES THEY SENT
02:07:53 US.
02:07:54 THIS HOUSE IS IN DEPLORABLE CONDITION.
02:07:56 IT'S ABOUT TO FALL DOWN.
02:08:00 IT'S AN ABANDONED STRUCTURE. AND I AM NOT BLAMING CODE
02:08:03 ENFORCEMENT.
02:08:05 WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS GIVEN OVER TO THE ADMINISTRATION
02:08:07 NOW.
02:08:07 IT'S IN DIRE NEED.
02:08:09 IT SHOULD BE TORN DOWN.
02:08:10 THE PROPERTY IS VACANT FOR SOME TIME.
02:08:12 IT'S OVERGROWN.
02:08:16 ITEMS ALL OVER THE PLACE WITHIN THE PROPERTY.
02:08:19 AND THE PICTURES TELL A LOT MORE THAN WORDS.
02:08:22 AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US SET THIS TO JOHN BENNETT, SEE IF
02:08:29 HE CAN FOLLOW IT THROUGH AND PROCESS, AS THE NEED IS DIRE.
02:08:33 THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AT 50 3rd WEST PARIS STREET
02:08:37 AND DESERVES SOME SWIFT ACTION, BECAUSE THIS COULD HURT
02:08:41 SOMEBODY.
02:08:43 I MAKE THAT MOTION.
02:08:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:08:46 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:08:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:08:48 ANY OPPOSED?
02:08:50 YES, SIR, ANYTHING ELSE?
02:08:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
02:08:52 TWO OTHER THINGS REAL QUICK.
02:08:54 THE PASSING OF TWO GREAT FIREFIGHTERS.
02:08:56 ONE WAS -- ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN IT
02:09:02 FIRST STARTED.
02:09:03 HE AND MAYORS IN THE PAST, I MEAN THE PAST-PAST, WORKED
02:09:08 DILIGENTLY TO WORK ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S MONEY THAT'S
02:09:14 BEEN INVESTED AND THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
02:09:17 IF IT WASN'T FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THE PAST, THE FAIR
02:09:20 DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT BE AS STRONG FINANCIALLY AS IT IS
02:09:24 TODAY.
02:09:25 AND I WAS OFF SATURDAY.
02:09:28 I WENT TO THE WAKE.
02:09:29 THE NEXT DAY, I HAD TO GO TO MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S PARTY.
02:09:33 THEN THE OTHER THAT PASSED AWAY WAS TONY PARARIS.
02:09:41 I HAD TO GO TO A PARTY SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT ATTENDING.
02:09:46 BUT BOTH OF THOSE WERE STALWARTS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
02:09:51 I WOULD JUST SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO
02:09:54 GAVE SO MUCH AND WORKED SO DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THE CITY OF
02:09:57 TAMPA WHAT IT IS TODAY.
02:09:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:10:00 VERY, VERY GOOD SENTIMENTS TO TWO VERY GOOD LOYAL PUBLIC
02:10:04 SERVANTS TO THIS COMMUNITY.
02:10:05 I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT BOTH OF THEM UP.
02:10:07 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
02:10:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.
02:10:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE THE GAVEL TO THE CHAIR PRO TEM.
02:10:14 FIRST MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE
02:10:18 TALKED ABOUT MONDAY.
02:10:20 I SENT OUT A MEMO WITH A COUPLE OF ACTION ITEMS MOVING
02:10:26 FORWARD FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
02:10:27 I HOPE YOU ALL READ THOSE.
02:10:30 THE ONLY CHANGE THAT I WOULD MAKE THAT WAS SENT OUT, ONE OF
02:10:34 THEM WAS TO MOVE CRA TO SEPARATE DAY MEETINGS, ONCE PER
02:10:37 MONTH, SINCE WE HAVE ONE CRA MEETING PER MONTH.
02:10:40 I PUT SECOND TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, BUT DISCUSSING IT WITH
02:10:43 MICHELLE VAN LOAN AND HOW THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION IN AND
02:10:47 IN PREPARATION FOR THOSE MEETINGS, THEY WOULD PREFER THE
02:10:50 THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
02:10:53 I THINK THAT -- BECAUSE SOME OF THESE MEETINGS ARE VERY
02:10:56 LONG.
02:10:57 I THINK IT WOULD KEEP A BALANCE.
02:10:59 BUT THERE ARE 12 ITEMS TOTAL.
02:11:02 THAT MEMO WAS SENT OUT.
02:11:03 I HOPE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS DID SEE THAT, SEE EVERYTHING.
02:11:09 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THESE
02:11:14 NEW GUIDELINES JUST TO KEEP THE MEETINGS MOVING, YOU KNOW,
02:11:19 QUICKLY AND MORE EFFICIENTLY.
02:11:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU READ THE MEMO?
02:11:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID READ THE MEMO.
02:11:26 I AM TRYING TO PULL THEM UP.
02:11:28 BECAUSE I HAD ONE QUESTION ON ONE ITEM.
02:11:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:11:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO THE CRA MEETING, ACTUALLY
02:11:38 TWO QUESTIONS.
02:11:42 WHAT ARE WE AT CURRENTLY?
02:11:45 WE DO A FULL CRA DAY.
02:11:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A CRA MEETING DURING THE DAY
02:11:49 AND USUALLY A NIGHT COUNCIL MEETING.
02:11:51 SINCE THE CRA MEETINGS HAVE GONE LONGER, FOR EXAMPLE, NEXT
02:11:55 THURSDAY WE HAVE CRA AT 9 A.M. AND THEN WE HAVE A 6 P.M.
02:11:57 COUNCIL EVENING MEETING WITH 10 LAND REZONINGS AND ONE
02:12:01 CONTINUED.
02:12:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE WHOLE INTENT IS TO TRY TO GET CRA
02:12:05 BY ITSELF?
02:12:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:12:06 SO --
02:12:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE DO THAT, AREN'T WE GOING TO END UP
02:12:11 WITH A FULL COUNCIL MEETING COMBINED WITH A NIGHT MEETING?
02:12:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, WE WOULD JUST COME IN FOR THAT
02:12:17 NIGHT MEETING INSTEAD OF BEING HERE LATE AT NIGHT BECAUSE
02:12:20 THE CRA MEETINGS HAVE GONE INTO THE AFTERNOON.
02:12:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, YOU ARE GOING TO COMBINE IT -- I'M
02:12:27 SORT OF CONFUSED.
02:12:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T MEET ON TUESDAYS SO WE WILL
02:12:30 HAVE CRA ON TUESDAYS JUST TO GIVE US A MORNING BREAK ON THAT
02:12:34 THURSDAY MORNING.
02:12:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT
02:12:36 THAT.
02:12:38 I THOUGHT COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT I THOUGHT THE
02:12:41 INTENTION WAS TO FREE UP MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO
02:12:43 WORKSHOPS, WHICH IS --
02:12:46 >>> WELL, YES, IF WE HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER WORKSHOP DAY
02:12:49 INSTEAD OF HAVING A VERY HEAVY WORKSHOP DAY, WE CAN ADD IT
02:12:52 THAT MORNING AND MAYBE SUPPLY IT UP AND HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL
02:12:55 WORKSHOP MONTHLY MEETING JUST SO WE ARE OUT OF HERE BY LUNCH
02:12:58 TIME AND WE ARE NOT SPENDING WHOLE DAYS AND WHATNOT.
02:13:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MISSED THE SUBTLE NUANCE.
02:13:07 THE THIRD TUESDAY.
02:13:08 I THINK I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT THE THIRD --
02:13:11 >>> THIRD TUESDAY, AND REFERRED TO MICHELLE VAN LOAN, SO
02:13:14 THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION IN AND ALL REPORTS DONE.
02:13:17 SO THAT WAS -- AND IF WE NEED THAT, BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 6,
02:13:24 SCHEDULE WORKSHOPS ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAYS, IF WE
02:13:29 EVEN HAVE THAT MUCH BUSINESS.
02:13:30 BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD DO.
02:13:33 INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE HEAVY WORKSHOP DAY WE CAN SPLIT IT UP
02:13:36 TWO TIMES IN THE MONTH AND JUST STREAMLINE THINGS.
02:13:39 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:13:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:13:41 IF I AM UNDERSTANDING CORRECT, WE WILL BE MEETING THAT
02:13:44 THURSDAY MORNING FOR WORKSHOP, CORRECT?
02:13:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IF WE NEED IT.
02:13:50 IF WE CAN HANDLE ONE WORKSHOP MEETING A MONTH, THEN FINE.
02:13:54 IF NOT WE CAN TAKE IT TO TWO.
02:13:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I HAVE LIKE I EXPRESSED BEFORE A
02:13:58 TINY CONCERN ON WHAT I CALL INDUCED DEMAND POTENTIALLY BUT
02:14:02 THAT'S 5% OF YOUR WORK PRODUCT, SO I AM GOING TO 100
02:14:07 SUPPORT -- SUPPORT AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF
02:14:11 AND OUR ATTORNEY MR. SHELBY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER
02:14:13 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S NOT HARD -- OR IT'S NOT EASY, EXCUSE
02:14:16 ME, BUT I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:14:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:14:20 ANYTHING ELSE?
02:14:21 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
02:14:22 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
02:14:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO TO CARLSON FIRST.
02:14:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON?
02:14:27 >>BILL CARLSON: SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. VIERA SAID, I SUPPORT
02:14:29 EVERYTHING ON HERE BUT MY PREFERENCE IS TO KEEP CRA ON THE
02:14:34 SAME DAY UNLESS WE NEED MORE DAYS.
02:14:37 THINK WE SHOULD FIND EFFICIENCIES IN TIME INSTEAD OF ADDING
02:14:41 MORE TIME.
02:14:41 BUT THE REST I AGREE.
02:14:42 THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING SUCCESS DIDN'T PUT THE CHAIR
02:14:45 WILL HAVE A BUZZER OR SOMEBODY WILL HAVE A BUZZER FOR US.
02:14:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SET TIMER IN ITEM NUMBER 5,
02:14:51 FOR FIVE MINUTE FOR EACH COUNCILMEMBER.
02:14:57 WE HAVE IT HERE.
02:14:58 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:14:59 YES, SIR.
02:15:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I FOUND YOUR MEMO.
02:15:04 I KIND OF AGREE WITH MR. CARLSON ON THAT ONE ITEM.
02:15:07 I'M NOT SURE THAT THE CRA ISSUE, IT'S ONE OF THOSE IF IT
02:15:14 AIN'T BROKE I AM NOT SURE WHY WE ARE FIXING IT.
02:15:17 IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES THE CRA MEETINGS GO LONG, BUT MOST
02:15:23 OF THE TIME, I THINK WE CAN FINISH BY NOON.
02:15:26 SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BAD.
02:15:27 BUT THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS -- HOLD ON, LET ME SEE.
02:15:33 FIVE MINUTE TIMER.
02:15:34 OH, ITEM 5.
02:15:36 SET TIMER FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS
02:15:40 DISCUSSION TO KEEP TRACK OF TIME.
02:15:42 I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT TYPICALLY, WE ASK QUESTIONS TO
02:15:47 STAFF, OR MIGHT BE EVEN A QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT OR TO
02:15:51 THE COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
02:15:53 IS IT MEANT THAT THAT FIVE MINUTES INCLUDES --
02:15:57 >>> NO, NO, NO, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE AN APPLICANT WITH A
02:15:59 REZONING HEARING, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES LEFT OF YOUR FIVE
02:16:02 MINUTES AND WHATNOT.
02:16:03 IT WOULD BE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
02:16:06 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
02:16:07 MANY OF US TALK AND WE GIVE --
02:16:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INTENT IS NOT TO INCLUDE THE RESPONSE.
02:16:14 BECAUSE IN THAT PERSON RESPONDS FOR FIVE OR TEN MINUTES, YOU
02:16:16 KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T --
02:16:18 >>> NO, IF I PROPOSE SOMETHING, SAY I WANT TO PROPOSE THIS
02:16:21 NEW WHATEVER AT CITY COUNCIL, I LIMIT MY DISCUSSION TO FIVE
02:16:24 MINUTES AND NOT GO BEYOND THAT.
02:16:27 TO KEEP THINGS GOING.
02:16:30 BUT IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE AN APPLICANT IN A REZONING WHERE YOU
02:16:32 ARE ON A SET TIMER, USE YOUR REBUTTAL TIME, OR CAN I HAVE
02:16:37 ANOTHER MINUTE?
02:16:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S SAY JOHN BENNETT SUPP AT THE
02:16:40 PODIUM AND I HAVE THREE OR FOUR QUESTIONS TO HIM, AND HE HAS
02:16:43 ANSWERS BACK TO ME, THE ANSWERS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FIVE
02:16:47 MINUTES.
02:16:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:16:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST THE QUESTION.
02:16:50 >> IF THAT.
02:16:54 I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE PICKING ON THAT.
02:16:56 BUT LET'S SAY I PROPOSE A DRAFT ORDINANCE ON SOMETHING OR
02:17:00 WANT SOMETHING.
02:17:00 I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE 15 MINUTES --
02:17:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO PONTIFICATE.
02:17:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP IT WITHIN FIVE MINUTES.
02:17:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T LUKE IT.
02:17:11 I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
02:17:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT, THE TIMER?
02:17:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE TAMER, THE FIVE MINUTES.
02:17:17 I THINK EVERYBODY RESPECTS EVERYBODY AND ISSUES COME UP, WE
02:17:20 CAN TALK.
02:17:21 YOU CAN KIND IT WRAP IT UP.
02:17:23 BUT THAT'S M JUST MY OPINION.
02:17:25 AND I AM ONLY ONE.
02:17:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW WHAT?
02:17:30 I HAVE SOMEONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT NEEDS TO LEAVE IN 45
02:17:32 MINUTES BECAUSE OF THEIR GRANDKIDS.
02:17:34 THIS DISCUSSION IS GOING LONGER THAN EXPECTED.
02:17:36 I AM GOING TO HOLD OFF ON MY NEW BUSINESS TILL THE END OF
02:17:39 THE MEETING.
02:17:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:17:40 WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 39.
02:17:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZ 30-103, THE GENERAL PROPERTY LOCATION
02:17:52 IS 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU ON FIRST
02:17:55 READING WAS PD TO PD, HOTEL, FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, CONTINUED
02:18:05 FROM FEBRUARY 11th, AND THEN ALSO ON MARCH 18th.
02:18:09 IN DISCUSSION WAS THE AGENT, THEY ARE GOING TO PROPOSE AN
02:18:12 ADDITIONAL CONDITION, AND I WILL JUST READ THEM OUT AND I
02:18:14 WILL DEFER TO DAVID TO PRESENT THOSE.
02:18:17 JUST SO WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING
02:18:23 AMENITY BEING ON THE SITE, A SIDEWALK WHICH WOULD BE ON THE
02:18:27 PROPERTY WHICH WILL BE ZONING CAN ACCOMMODATE AND BY THE
02:18:30 DEVELOPER FOR PUBLIC USE WHICH WOULD BE ONE BICYCLE REPAIR
02:18:32 STATION, ONE WATER BOTTLE FILLER STATION, TWO BICYCLE RACKS,
02:18:39 THREE PET WASTE STATIONS.
02:18:42 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
02:18:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COEN, YOU WERE SWORN IN EARLIER, I
02:18:57 BELIEVE.
02:18:57 MR. MECHANIK, YOU WERE NOT SWORN.
02:18:59 I SEE TIM AND DAN WOODWARD.
02:19:04 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
02:19:07 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
02:19:10 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE GOING TO
02:19:10 GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
02:19:10 TRUTH?
02:19:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MRS. WELLS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING OR ARE
02:19:15 YOU JUST STANDING BY?
02:19:16 NO?
02:19:16 OKAY.
02:19:17 MR. MECHANIK, YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE, SIR?
02:19:24 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR.
02:19:24 MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
02:19:27 GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
02:19:34 WE HAD A FAIRLY LENGTHY MEETING ON FEBRUARY 11th.
02:19:40 AND I PLANNED TO DO A VERY BRIEF INITIAL PRESENTATION, BUT A
02:19:47 LOT HAS ACTUALLY OCCURRED SINCE FEBRUARY 11th.
02:19:50 SO I WOULD ASK THAT I BE GIVEN APPROXIMATELY TEN MINUTES TO
02:19:56 DO AN INITIAL PRESENTATION, AND THEN RESERVE THE BALANCE OF
02:20:00 MY TIME, ANOTHER TEN MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL, IF THAT IS
02:20:06 ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNCIL.
02:20:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD THIS CASE LIKE
02:20:10 ONE AND A HALF TIMES.
02:20:11 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
02:20:15 NO?
02:20:16 ALL RIGHT.
02:20:17 GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:20:20 >>DAVID MECHANIK: OKAY.
02:20:20 I WILL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN BUT THERE'S A LOT OF
02:20:22 MATERIAL TO COVER.
02:20:25 I HAVE WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON TIM GRAFF, THE APPLICANT.
02:20:32 I ALSO HAVE DAN WOODWARD FROM HIGHWOODS PROPERTY.
02:20:36 WHO IS BOTH LAND OWNER ON THIS PROJECT.
02:20:41 ALSO WITH ME IS RANDY COEN OF COEN AND COMPANY, THE AIC
02:20:49 PLANNER ON THIS PROJECT.
02:20:51 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU ENABLE RANDY TO SHARE HIS
02:20:56 SCREEN.
02:21:16 WE CONCUR IN THE STAFF REPORT AND AGREE TO MAKE ALL THE
02:21:19 CHANGES LISTED IN THE REVISION, AND I WOULD NOTE THAT WE
02:21:24 HAVE RECEIVED ALL FAVORABLE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY AND
02:21:28 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF INCLUDING A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY
02:21:33 WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
02:21:37 WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR TWO CHANGES IN THE APPROVED PLAN FROM
02:21:42 WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2018.
02:21:45 WE ARE REQUESTING A SMALL INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF THE SECOND
02:21:50 BUILDING FOOTPRINT, AND A SMALL INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF THE
02:21:54 SECOND.
02:21:56 WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE RANDY COEN PRESENT THE
02:22:03 PARTICULARS OF THE AMENDMENT.
02:22:04 >> RANDY COEN, 4121 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
02:22:14 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
02:22:16 I JUST WANT TO RUN YOU THROUGH THE SITE PLAN AND THE
02:22:18 CHANGES.
02:22:19 THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE HERE ARE JUST THE SITE PLAN AS IT WAS
02:22:23 APPROVED.
02:22:25 THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.
02:22:27 THE NORTHERN BUILDING HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
02:22:31 THE OTHER BUILDING IS THIS LOCATION HERE, A VERY LARGE
02:22:35 RECTANGLE, A BUILDING OF 22,000 SQUARE FEET AND CHANGE.
02:22:39 IT'S A 7-STORY BUILDING.
02:22:41 IT CAN BE OFFICE, IT CAN BE MULTIFAMILY.
02:22:45 UP TO 546 DWELLING UNITS FOR A HOTEL OF UP TO 524 ROOMS.
02:22:50 THESE ARE THE APPROVED USES FOR THIS BUILDING AS IT SITS
02:22:53 TODAY.
02:22:54 I WANT TO MOVE TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHICH IS
02:22:58 RECONFIGURATION OF BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
02:23:01 AND I WILL GO TO A COLOR SLIDE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER,
02:23:04 INSTEAD OF BEING LARGE RECTANGLE WE HAVE APPROVED TODAY WE
02:23:09 ARE SEEKING TO ELONGATE THE BUILDING, BE ABLE TO MASS THE
02:23:14 EXISTING PARKING GARAGE AND THE PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE WITH
02:23:17 THE BUILDING ITSELF.
02:23:18 THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT INCREASES FROM 32,000 SQUARE FEET TO
02:23:23 38,000 SQUARE FEET.
02:23:25 BEHIND MR. MECHANIK DISCUSSED THIS ALLOWS THE BUILDING TO GO
02:23:30 FROM 7 STORIES TO 9 STORIES.
02:23:34 WHY ARE WE DOING THAT?
02:23:37 PLAIN AND SIMPLE, CRESCENT COMMUNITIES BUILDS HIGH-END
02:23:41 RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS.
02:23:42 THESE WHAT THEY WISH TO BUILD HERE.
02:23:44 THEY ARE LARGER UNITS.
02:23:46 THEY ARE A VERY HIGH END COMPARABLE TO CONDOS.
02:23:50 WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, ASKING TO REDUCE THE
02:23:55 AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY THAT CAN BE BUILT FROM 546 UNITS TO
02:24:00 [DISTORTION] 254 UNITS SO THE PROJECT IS 292 UNITS, A
02:24:06 REDUCTION OF 48% IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
02:24:10 WITH THAT REDUCTION, THE PARKING STRUCTURE WHICH IS
02:24:12 CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR 11 STORIES AND ENCOMPASS THIS ENTIRE
02:24:17 AREA -- SORRY ABOUT THAT -- WOULD BE LITERALLY AN EXPANSION
02:24:22 THAT WOULD BE 50% OF THAT WHICH IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, WHICH
02:24:26 IS SUBSTANTIAL, AND I BELIEVE PROVIDES NICE VISUALS WITH THE
02:24:32 BUILDING WE ARE PROPOSING.
02:24:33 THE TRAFFIC AGAIN REDUCES BY ABOUT 50% FOR THE PHASE 2
02:24:37 BUILDING.
02:24:38 THAT'S LITERALLY A DECREASE OF 135 VEHICLES IN THE MORNING,
02:24:42 131 VEHICLE TRIPS IN THE AFTERNOON, THIS IS ALL BASED UPON
02:24:46 THE 2018 DETAILED TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THE PRIOR
02:24:50 REZONING, THAT THE CITY DETERMINED A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NOT
02:24:54 REQUIRED FOR THIS PROPOSAL SINCE WE WERE SUBSTANTIALLY
02:24:57 REDUCING THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR.
02:25:05 FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT I CONSULTED THE MOBILITY
02:25:09 FEES AND THE WESTSHORE AREA WIDE DRI.
02:25:13 THERE'S ALSO A NEIGHBORHOOD D. THOSE TOGETHER TOTAL
02:25:14 330,580.
02:25:20 $65,000 OF THAT IS NEIGHBORHOOD FEE FOR DIRECT IMPROVEMENTS
02:25:24 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.
02:25:26 MOVING THROUGH THIS, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THIS IS THE SITE
02:25:29 THAT'S EMPTY TODAY.
02:25:30 TO THE NORTH OF IT IS THE EXISTING 7 STORY OFFICE BUILDING.
02:25:33 THERE IS AN 8 STORY PARKING STRUCTURE HERE WITH AN APPROVAL
02:25:37 OF AN 11 STORY PARKING STRUCTURE BESIDE IT.
02:25:40 WE ARE NOT DOING THAT UNDER THE OPTION WE ARE PROPOSING
02:25:43 TODAY.
02:25:44 THE OFFICE BUILDING SITS HERE.
02:25:45 THIS IS THE 4-STORY BUILDING THAT EXISTS TODAY.
02:25:48 THESE ARE BOTH 8-STORY CONDOMINIUMS THAT EXIST TODAY.
02:25:52 THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF TAMPA FOUND OUR
02:25:54 PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT.
02:25:57 THEY ALSO FOUND IT TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH A HEIGHT STANDPOINT
02:26:00 GIVEN THE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:26:03 THIS IS A VIEW OF THE BUILDING AS IT'S APPROVED TODAY WITH
02:26:06 THE 7-STORY OFFICE BUILDING HERE ON THE RIGHT.
02:26:09 THIS IS THE BUILDING AS IT WOULD BE PROPOSED UNDER THE
02:26:13 CURRENT PROPOSAL WHICH IS A 9-STORY BUILDING WHICH, BY THE
02:26:16 WAY, SEEKING LEED CERTIFICATION OF THIS BUILDING AS WELL L.
02:26:20 AND HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT BUILDING THAT HAS A LARGE
02:26:24 AMENITY AREA AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT TO
02:26:29 ENCOMPASS THIS ENTIRE AREA.
02:26:30 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT BACK TO MR. MECHANIK.
02:26:34 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU.
02:26:36 I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT, CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO MEET WITH
02:26:40 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAD TWO ZOOM MEETINGS SINCE THE
02:26:46 FEBRUARY 11th MEETING, AND WE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES
02:26:50 OF THE BEACH PARK ASSOCIATION AND THE TWO CONDOMINIUM TOWERS
02:26:55 ON MARINER NORTH AND MARINER SOUTH.
02:26:59 AS A RESULT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, MY CLIENT OFFERED
02:27:05 ADDITIONAL AMENITIES ON THE SITE WHICH RYAN REFERRED TO
02:27:08 EARLIER AND TO WHICH WE AGREED WOULD BE ADDED AS A CONDITION
02:27:12 ON THE PROJECT, A BICYCLE REPAIR STATION, WATER FOUNTAIN,
02:27:19 BOTTLE FILTER STATION, BICYCLE RACKS, AND PET WASTE STATION.
02:27:25 THESE ARE ALL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND OPEN TO THE
02:27:29 NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:27:35 IN ADDITION MY CLIENT AGREED TO CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE NOT
02:27:38 APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE ON THE SITE PLAN BUT TOPICS CAME UP
02:27:40 DURING THE DISCUSSION WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:27:43 AND SO WE HAVE AGREED TO IMPLEMENT THESE PLANS, ONE OF WHICH
02:27:48 IS TO ADD EQUIPMENT TO THE FITNESS TRAIL ALONG BAY CENTER
02:27:53 DRIVE THAT WOULD EXTEND FROM THE PROJECT ALL THE WAY UP TO
02:27:57 HOOVER BOULEVARD.
02:27:58 WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY TO CONSIDER THE
02:28:03 APPROPRIATENESS OF CERTAIN TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES, AND WE
02:28:09 WOULD THEN ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY
02:28:16 THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BY THE CITY TO INCLUDE NO, SIR
02:28:18 IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:28:20 WE ALSO HAVE AGREED TO COOPERATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO
02:28:23 REQUEST FDOT TO DREDGE THE CANAL IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY
02:28:32 AS WELL AS IN FRONT OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.
02:28:34 AND FINALLY, WE HAVE AGREED TO MANAGE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC
02:28:39 IN SUCH A WAY THAT TRUCKS WOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARDS BAY
02:28:45 CENTER DRIVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND AVOID MARINER
02:28:49 BOULEVARD.
02:28:51 WE CAN'T TOTALLY GUARANTEE ON MARINER BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE
02:28:57 WE PULL AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS POSSIBLE THROUGH BAY CENTER
02:29:00 DRIVE.
02:29:01 AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] SAY A
02:29:08 FEW WORDS, PLEASE.
02:29:09 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
02:29:11 MY NAME IS DAN WOODWARD.
02:29:13 I'M WITH HIGHWOODS PROPERTIES, 3111 WEST DR. MARTIN LUTHER
02:29:17 KING JR. BOULEVARD, TAMPA.
02:29:20 TAMPA HAS BEEN MY HOME SINCE 1985.
02:29:23 HIGHWOODS HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET SINCE 1996 AND BUILT THE --
02:29:29 BUILDING IN 2007.
02:29:31 THE ADJACENT LAND PARCEL HAS REMAINED VACANT SINCE THAT
02:29:36 TIME.
02:29:36 GIVEN THE CITY'S FOCUS ON MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, HIGHWOODS
02:29:41 WOULD LIKE TO BE SEE ACT HIGH QUALITY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING
02:29:43 NEXT TO OUR EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING.
02:29:45 WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A DIFFERENT USE THAN THAT CURRENTLY
02:29:49 ALLOWED.
02:29:50 WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURRENT ZONING
02:29:54 TO FACILITATE A BETTER PRODUCT.
02:29:56 WE HAVE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP SEVERAL TIMES AND
02:29:59 WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM BOTH ON THIS SITE AND OFF
02:30:02 THE SITE TO APPROVE THE -- IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:30:05 THESE PROPOSED CHANGES MEET THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
02:30:08 PLAN.
02:30:09 THEY HAVE CITY STAFF APPROVAL.
02:30:12 IT REDUCES THE DENSITY AND THE TRAFFIC.
02:30:14 AND IT FACILITATES A MUCH HIGHER QUALITY PROJECT.
02:30:17 WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR APPROVAL OF THESE MODIFICATIONS SO
02:30:21 WE MAY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND CONTINUE TO
02:30:24 PROMOTE ECONOMIC VITALITY IN WESTSHORE.
02:30:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:30:31 >>DAVID MECHANIK: THAT CONCLUDES OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION,
02:30:33 MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:30:33 >> VERY GOOD.
02:30:36 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT IS
02:30:38 HERE TO SPEAK?
02:30:39 IF YOU ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, PLEASE APPROACH THE KIOSK
02:30:43 AND STATE YOUR NAME.
02:30:48 AND PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN.
02:30:55 [OATH ADMINISTERED]
02:30:59 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE GOING TO
02:30:59 GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
02:30:59 TRUTH?
02:31:00 >> SURE.
02:31:00 YES.
02:31:01 LIANE BENNATI.
02:31:04 FIRST I WANT TO SAY I LOVE THE REFERENCE TO THE CARPENTERS,
02:31:07 AND I LIKE BEING AROUND A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNEW
02:31:10 WHAT THAT WAS.
02:31:11 GOOD MORNING.
02:31:12 ACTUALLY GOOD AFTERNOON AT THIS POINT, GENTLEMEN.
02:31:15 YOU ARE LOOKING AT AND LISTENING TO A LIFE-LONG VERY LUCKY
02:31:18 RESIDENT OF TAMPA, OR WE'LL CALL IT CHAMPA SINCE THAT'S WHAT
02:31:23 WE ARE NOW.
02:31:24 SIXTY YEARS AGO I CAME HOME FROM TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL TO
02:31:27 THE VERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS
02:31:31 PROJECT, AND I WANT TO BE ON RECORD THAT I AM ADAMANTLY
02:31:36 OPPOSED TO THIS NINE STORY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT IN THIS
02:31:39 NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:31:40 THIS IS AN INVASION, OR AS SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER TODAY, IT
02:31:44 IS A FEEDING FRENZY AFFECTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE
02:31:48 QUALITY OF LIFE IN BEACH PARK AND IN SOUTH TAMPA.
02:31:51 THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
02:31:55 OUR ROADS ARE CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE, UNNAVIGABLE MOST OF THE
02:31:59 TIME ON NORMAL DAYS.
02:32:00 CAN YOU IMAGINE ADDING HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL FAMILIES FROM
02:32:05 THIS MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY TRYING TO EVACUATE, THAT MANY
02:32:09 CARS?
02:32:10 WE FLOOD NOW WITH JUST A HEAVY RAIN.
02:32:13 IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THE FLOODING DOES IN OUR
02:32:16 NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:32:16 THIS STRUCTURE HAS NO BUSINESS GOING INTO A COASTAL HIGH
02:32:19 HAZARD AREA.
02:32:21 MUCH LESS DOESN'T FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE
02:32:24 HAVE WORKED SO HARD AND PAID SO MUCH TO CREATE.
02:32:29 I AM CONCERNED, VERY CONCERNED FOR THE LACK OF PRIVACY FOR
02:32:32 INCREASED CRIME FOR THE NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION, OF A
02:32:38 INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS SIZE WILL SURELY CREATE.
02:32:39 BUT MOSTLY FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN WHO ARE VEHEMENTLY
02:32:44 STRESSED AND WORRIED ABOUT THEIR PRIVACY AND MORE CONGESTION
02:32:48 AND PEOPLE IN OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH VERY NARROW
02:32:52 STREETS AND ABSOLUTELY NO SIDEWALKS.
02:32:56 THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A DOUBT WILL
02:32:59 NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR MENTAL HEALTH,
02:33:03 OUR PROPERTY VALUES, I IMPLORE YOU, I BEG YOU, PLEASE DO NOT
02:33:09 APPROVE THIS REQUEST.
02:33:11 THANK YOU.
02:33:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
02:33:14 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT
02:33:18 SPEAKER.
02:33:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
02:33:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:33:26 YOUR MICROPHONE IS --
02:33:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE] I WILL TURN ON MY LIGHT.
02:33:37 I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
02:33:38 BUT A REMAINDER, COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, AS WAS STATED THIS IS
02:33:42 A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE 11th OF FEBRUARY
02:33:44 WHEN TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE WAS TAKEN.
02:33:46 SO THAT BEING THE CASE, COUNCIL'S PROCEDURE CUSTOMARILY IS
02:33:51 IF SOMEBODY PREVIOUSLY SPOKE AT THE HEARING FOR FIRST
02:33:54 READING, THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
02:33:56 SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE THAT IF YOU HAVE
02:33:59 SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY ON THIS MATTER AT THE FIRST READING ON
02:34:04 FEBRUARY 11th THAT YOU SHOULD LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE
02:34:07 SUBJECT OF THE CONTINUANCE.
02:34:10 AND I WOULD ASK COUNCIL -- EXCUSE ME, THE PUBLIC TO BE
02:34:14 MINDFUL OF THAT, PLEASE.
02:34:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER.
02:34:18 I WOULD MOVE TO WAIVE THAT RULE JUST BECAUSE ET CETERA BEEN
02:34:22 A LONG TIME SINCE WE HAD THAT INITIAL HEARING.
02:34:26 THE PETITIONER HAS ASKED FOR A FULL-BLOWN 20 MINUTES TO
02:34:29 REPRESENT THEIR CASE.
02:34:31 SO IF SOMEBODY HAS GONE TO THE TROUBLE OF CALLING IN OR
02:34:34 COMING DOWN HERE, I THINK WE SHOULD WAIVE THAT RULE AND
02:34:37 ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESTATE THEIR POSITION.
02:34:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
02:34:42 YES, MA'AM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU
02:34:44 IN.
02:34:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S WITHOUT OBJECTION.
02:34:48 I DIDN'T HEAR -- WITHOUT OBJECTION.
02:34:51 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
02:34:55 ARE GOING TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING
02:34:55 BUT THE TRUTH?
02:34:59 >> DR. TAMMIE KING. I LIVE ON MARINER STREET.
02:35:03 I'M ALSO A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF TAMPA. I WAS BORN HERE AND
02:35:06 I HAVE TO SAY I CAN'T PHRASE IT ANY DIFFERENTLY OR BETTER
02:35:08 THAN LIANE JUST DID, COMPLETELY SUPPORT EVERYTHING SHE SAID.
02:35:14 IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY ARE QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:35:16 THAT'S WHY WE LIVE THERE.
02:35:17 THAT'S WHY WE MOVED THERE.
02:35:20 THE IDEA THAT OUR LIVING IN CONDITIONS ARE NOT GOING TO BE
02:35:25 PROTECTED WITH THIS 9-STORY MONSTER COMING UP IN OUR QUIET
02:35:30 NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:35:31 THE STREETS ARE ALREADY VERY SMALL.
02:35:35 VIOLATION OF OUR PRIVACY, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS ON A DAILY
02:35:39 BASIS IS ALREADY DIFFICULT.
02:35:40 ON TOP OF THAT PROPERTY VALUE AND SAFETY, ALL OUR CONCERNS.
02:35:45 AGAIN SHE STATED IT VERY WELL BUT SHE'S GOT TO KNOW THAT THE
02:35:47 NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS, AND THE MORE I TALK TO
02:35:51 PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THE STREETS, THEY'RE OPPOSED
02:35:55 TO IT.
02:35:55 THEY SIMPLY WERE NOT AWARE.
02:35:57 AND I THINK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME, WE COULD BRING THEM SO
02:36:01 THEY ARE AWARE.
02:36:02 THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS SMALL COMMUNITY WANTS.
02:36:04 ALSO THE CONSIDERATION OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING IN AND
02:36:07 GETTING OUT, AND THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE IN THAT AREA THAT
02:36:11 WE APPRECIATE WOULD BE DEVASTATED WITH THIS BUILDING
02:36:14 CONSTRUCTION.
02:36:15 SO WE IMPLORE YOU, BEG YOU, PLEASE TO BE RECONSIDER ALLOWING
02:36:19 THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:36:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:36:23 WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND BRING UP THE NEXT SPEAKER.
02:36:25 >> NO OTHER SPEAKERS FOR 39.
02:36:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:36:58 WE WILL GO TO THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE REGISTERED.
02:37:00 I HAVE 14 NAMES.
02:37:02 AND IF WE CAN BRING THEM ON.
02:37:05 PLEASE TURN OWN YOUR CAMERAS.
02:37:07 AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES.
02:37:09 AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN LITTLE BY LITTLE.
02:37:15 HOW MANY DO WE HAVE THAT ARE LOGGED IN?
02:37:22 AT LEAST 12?
02:37:23 OKAY.
02:37:26 I SEE JENNIFER SPARKS, A SCOTT JACKMAN, JOHN MUELLER, AND
02:37:37 KATIE.
02:37:38 IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
02:37:44 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE GOING TO
02:37:44 GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
02:37:44 TRUTH?
02:37:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KATIE, YOU GO FIRST.
02:37:50 YOU ARE FIRST ON MY LIST.
02:37:52 GO AHEAD.
02:37:52 >> I'M KATIE BERKEY, A BOARD CERTIFIED SPECIALIST IN
02:38:00 GOVERNMENT LAW AS WELL AS A CERTIFIED AICI PLANNER,
02:38:04 REPRESENT STACIE'S PARK LLC WHICH INVOLVES DOZENS OF
02:38:09 CONCERNED BEACH PARK RESIDENTS.
02:38:10 MY TESTIMONY TODAY IS THROUGH MY E-MAIL ON MARCH 30th TO
02:38:15 COUNCIL.
02:38:16 AND I WOULD LIKE TO START BY REITERATING HOW THE PROPOSED
02:38:19 DEVELOPMENT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
02:38:21 FIRST AND FOREMOST, OF MOST CONCERN IS SEVERAL AREA
02:38:26 RESIDENTS, THAT AFFECTS THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE
02:38:28 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
02:38:30 THE FLOOD RISK ANALYSIS THAT WE PROVIDED IN MY E-MAIL
02:38:36 EVALUATES THE CURRENT AND FUTURE FLOOD RISKS OF THE PROPERTY
02:38:39 AND FOUND THAT IT IS PRONE TO STORM SURGE FLOODING DURING
02:38:43 MAJOR STORM EVENTS TODAY.
02:38:44 SPECIFICALLY, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE
02:38:47 PROPERTY ARE EXPECTED TO FLOOD DURING WORST CASE CATEGORY 3
02:38:51 AND CATEGORY 2 STORMS RESPECTIVELY.
02:38:54 AND THIS SUBSTANTIATES THE EARLIER COMMENTS FROM AREA
02:38:58 RESIDENTS AND WHAT THEY ALREADY KNOW TO BE TRUE AND HAVE
02:39:00 STATED ON THE RECORD.
02:39:02 IN ADDITION, FLOODING OF THE PROPERTY IS ALSO EXPECTED
02:39:06 DURING ANY WORSE CASE HURRICANE OF ANY CATEGORY UNDER
02:39:10 PROJECTED SEA LEVEL RISE AND THOSE PROJECTED LEVELS ARE
02:39:13 PROVIDED BY NOAH.
02:39:16 THE COMP PLAN SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES CONSIDERATION OF COASTAL
02:39:19 HIGH HAZARD IN ALL LAND USE DECISIONS AND THE EXISTING AND
02:39:22 FUTURE RESIDENTS CAN SAFELY EVALUATE AND SHELTER IN EVENT OF
02:39:25 A STORM.
02:39:26 BUT ALSO REQUIRES THE DIRECTING OF FUTURE POPULATION AWAY
02:39:30 FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND REQUIRES NEW
02:39:33 DEVELOPMENT BEST PRACTICES WITH SEA LEVEL RISE.
02:39:36 THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OPTION IN THE COASTAL
02:39:39 HIGH HAZARD AREA IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP
02:39:44 PLAN BY DIRECTING A NET POPULATION INCREASE INTO THE COASTAL
02:39:47 HIGH HAZARD AREA.
02:39:49 THE APPLICANT HAS YET TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT
02:39:51 WILL MEET OR EXCEED FLOOD RESISTANT CONSTRUCTION
02:39:54 REQUIREMENTS, WILL UTILIZE BEST PRACTICES TO MITIGATE
02:39:57 PROJECTED SEA LEVEL RISE AND WON'T IMPAIR EVACUATION RATES
02:40:01 OR SHELTER CAPACITY.
02:40:02 AS NOTED IN THE RECORD FROM THE SUBMISSION I BELIEVE
02:40:05 YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE THERE IS ALSO INADEQUATE PUBLIC
02:40:08 SCHOOL CAPACITY TO FOCUS ON.
02:40:11 SPECIFICALLY THE DESIGNATED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS ALREADY AT
02:40:14 99% CAPACITY, AND THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL FOR THIS
02:40:18 LOCATION ARE ALREADY EXCEEDING CAPACITY, AND THAT DEFICIENCY
02:40:23 WILL BE FURTHER COMPOUNDED AS A RESULT OF THE MULTIFAMILY
02:40:25 OPTION PROPOSED TODAY.
02:40:27 THE COMP PLAN ALSO ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENTS THAT PROMOTE USE
02:40:30 OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAVEL, AND THE
02:40:36 APPLICANT VERY RECENT OFFERING TO INCLUDE A BIKE REPAIR
02:40:41 STATION, TWO BIKE RACKS, PET STATION AND REFILLABLE WATER,
02:40:45 IS APPRECIATED, BUT ARE NOT TRUE CONCESSIONS, AND THESE
02:40:50 SORTS OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE COMP PLAN
02:40:52 ALREADY, HAVE BEEN FACTORED IN AT A MUCH EARLIER JUNCTURE,
02:40:56 IN MY OPINION.
02:40:57 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO IN COMPATIBLE WITH THE
02:41:00 SCALE AND CHARACTER OF THE AREAS NOTED BY THE PRIOR SPEAKERS
02:41:03 AND AREA RESIDENTS.
02:41:05 THE AREA IS MOSTLY COMPRISED OF SINGLE AND TWO-STORY
02:41:08 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, TWO-STORY AND FOUR-STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS,
02:41:12 AND I GUESS APPROXIMATELY 75-FOOT TALL CONDOMINIUM THERE TO
02:41:19 THE SOUTHWEST.
02:41:20 THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OPTION PROPOSED IS 23 FEET AND
02:41:24 TWO STORIES TALLER THAN THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING ON THE
02:41:27 PROPERTY.
02:41:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:41:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW MUCH MORE TIME DOES SHE NEED?
02:41:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED, MA'AM?
02:41:35 >> I HAVE ABOUT FOUR SENTENCE IF I COULD, PLEASE.
02:41:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:41:39 >> THANK YOU.
02:41:40 THE PROPOSED DESIGN IS MONOLITHIC AND DESIGN ELEMENTS AND
02:41:43 FACADES AND THERE'S NO VARIABLE ROOFLINES IN ELEMENTS THAT
02:41:46 ENHANCE VISUAL INTEREST AND REDUCE MASSING.
02:41:49 AND MY LAST POINT, THE REQUEST ALSO DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE
02:41:53 WESTSHORE OVERLAY DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, AND THE APPLICANT
02:41:57 HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER FROM THE STANDARD ON THE REMAINING --
02:42:01 WHICH IN MY OPINION IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE
02:42:04 MOBILITY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN, AND CONSISTENT WITH
02:42:06 FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE OVERLAY THAT WILL BE EXPECTED TO
02:42:09 COMPLY WITH THESE STANDARDS, AND WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE A
02:42:12 LONG WAY TO PROTECT THE EXISTING LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
02:42:15 IN THE AREA AND MITIGATE THE PROJECT, AND IT'S MY
02:42:21 PROFESSIONAL OPINION THIS APPLICATION BE DENIED.
02:42:24 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
02:42:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:42:26 NEXT UP WE HAVE JENNIFER SPARKS.
02:42:31 >> HELLO.
02:42:34 MY NAME IS JENNIFER SPARKS, AND I LIVE AT 23 WEST SPANISH
02:42:38 MAIN STREET IN BEACH PARK.
02:42:40 I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
02:42:44 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE.
02:42:47 THE FIRST ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IS OUR PUBLIC
02:42:50 SCHOOLS.
02:42:51 THE SCHOOLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GRADY ELEMENTARY,
02:42:54 COLEMAN MIDDLE, AND PLANT HIGH.
02:42:56 AND ALL THREE OF THESE SCHOOLS ARE EITHER AT OR ABOVE
02:43:00 CAPACITY.
02:43:01 THE 1800 UNITS RECENTLY APPROVED AT WESTSHORE MALL ARE GOING
02:43:06 TO ADD MANY MORE STUDENTS TO THESE SCHOOLS THAT ALREADY
02:43:09 EXTREMELY OVERCROWDED.
02:43:10 I WORKED FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS FOR NINE YEARS AS A
02:43:13 TEACHER AT SOUTH TAMPA AND I KNOW FIRST HAND --
02:43:19 [~DISTORTION~]
02:43:20 THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE PROPOSED HEIGHT.
02:43:22 THE DEVELOPERS HAVE 115 FEET ALREADY APPROVED AND YET THEY
02:43:27 ARE ASKING FOR MORE.
02:43:30 EACH ADDITIONAL STORY DETRACTS FROM THE PRIVACY OF BEACH
02:43:35 PARK.
02:43:36 THE RESIDENTS OF BEACH PARK DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE 2018
02:43:39 REZONING OR WE WOULD HAVE STRONGLY SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION TO
02:43:42 THAT AS WELL.
02:43:44 HIGHWOODS IS KNOWN AS AN OFFICE RATE AND THE NEIGHBORS DID
02:43:48 NOT EXPECT HIGHWOODS TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR AN APARTMENT
02:43:51 COMPLEX.
02:43:52 WE FEEL HIGHWOODS HAS BETRAYED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:43:55 THE THIRD ISSUE IS TRAFFIC.
02:43:58 THE COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON
02:44:00 KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
02:44:03 THOSE ARE -- BOTH OF THESE LOADS ROW V TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT
02:44:08 EXCEEDS CAPACITY.
02:44:09 SO WHY ARE WE ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO TWO MAJOR ROADWAYS
02:44:13 ALREADY AT A LEVEL SERVICE D.
02:44:15 THIS PROJECT WILL SERVE ONLY TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO OUR
02:44:18 NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, INCLUDING AZEELE AND CLEVELAND.
02:44:23 THE FOURTH ISSUE IS COMPATIBILITY.
02:44:25 THERE IS NOT A 138-FOOT TALL APARTMENT COMPLEX WITHIN 3
02:44:29 MILES OF BEACH PARK.
02:44:31 PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO SET A NEW STANDARD FOR
02:44:35 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:44:37 THE LAST ISSUE IS THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
02:44:41 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS PROVIDED EVIDENCE TO THE COUNCIL
02:44:43 RELATED TO THIS VERY SERIOUS COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ISSUE
02:44:47 ASSOCIATED WITH PUTTING HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS
02:44:50 WITHIN A KNOWN EVACUATION AREA.
02:44:53 EVERYONE REMEMBERS OUR LAST HURRICANE EVACUATION, AND WE ALL
02:44:57 REMEMBER THE PERILS OF EVERYONE TRYING TO EVACUATE AT THE
02:45:00 SAME TIME ON AN ALREADY CONGESTED ROADWAY SYSTEM.
02:45:05 BEACH PARK SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME CONSIDERATION AS THE
02:45:08 AREA SOUTH OF GANDY CURRENTLY PROPOSED FOR FAMILY,
02:45:12 MULTIFAMILY MORATORIUM.
02:45:13 THE RESIDENTS OF BEACH PARK RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS
02:45:17 COUNCIL CONSIDER ADDING THE COASTAL AREAS FROM KENNEDY
02:45:20 BOULEVARD SOUTH TO BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AS PART OF THE
02:45:24 BUILDING MORATORIUM AREA.
02:45:27 WE THANK COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THESE
02:45:29 ISSUES.
02:45:30 THANK YOU.
02:45:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:45:31 NEXT UP, WE HAVE SCOTT, AND THEN JOHN MUELLER.
02:45:38 >> A RELATIVELY RECENT MEMBER OF THE BEACH PARK COMMUNITY,
02:45:48 MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
02:45:52 I HAVE BEEN A LONG-TIME MEMBER, WE BOTH ARE PAST RESIDENTS
02:45:56 OF TAMPA BUT WE MOVED TO SOUTH TAMPA AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
02:45:59 IN PARTICULAR FOR THE BENEFIT THAT IT PROVIDES, AND WITHOUT
02:46:03 BELABORING THE POINTS MADE BY MY NEIGHBORS, THAT BEING THE
02:46:06 IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND PRIVACY.
02:46:11 I WOULD EMPHASIS SOME OF THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT.
02:46:14 IN TERMS OF PRIVACY, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY MUCH A
02:46:17 RESIDENTIAL AND PEDESTRIAN NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE ARE OUT
02:46:21 RIDING BIKES, WALKING THEIR DOGS, ON A DAILY BASIS, UNLIKE
02:46:25 ANY OTHER COMMUNITY I LIVED IN, IN TAMPA, AND IT'S A VERY
02:46:29 UNIQUE ATTRACTION TO US AS WE FRANKLY MOVED HERE TO LOOK TO
02:46:33 RETIRE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
02:46:35 OUR HOUSE IS RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF AZEELE AND O'BRIEN
02:46:39 STREET.
02:46:40 THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHILE NOT PHYSICALLY IN OUR BACKYARD,
02:46:44 LITERALLY IS GOING TO IMPACT US AS IF IT WERE IN OUR
02:46:47 BACKYARD BOTH IN TERMS OF THE OVERFLOW FROM VEHICULAR
02:46:51 TRAFFIC AND ALSO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, THE PEOPLE WALKING AND
02:46:53 BIKING.
02:46:54 THEY ABSOLUTELY WILL BE FILTERING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND
02:46:58 OVERCROWDING THAT MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS.
02:47:01 IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC I UNDERSTAND THE EXPERTS WILL SPEAK
02:47:03 TO THAT.
02:47:04 EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT INCREASE IN
02:47:06 TRAFFIC.
02:47:09 NOW, I AM TELLING YOU THAT LIVING RIGHT ON AZEELE, THERE IS
02:47:13 A HIGH NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH DALE
02:47:18 MABRY AND BEYOND RIGHT THROUGH AZEELE ALL THE WAY BECAUSE
02:47:23 IT'S AN EASY ACCESS IN THEIR MIND TO BE 275.
02:47:26 SO WE HAVE ALREADY, NO MATTER WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY MATE
02:47:30 REFLECT, AN ELEVATED NUMBER OF OUT OF NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLES
02:47:34 COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A PASS-THROUGH.
02:47:37 NOT THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT NECESSARILY WOULD INCREASE THE
02:47:40 VOLUME, BUT IT CERTAINLY WON'T LESSEN IT, AND IT WILL BE AN
02:47:44 IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:47:45 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SIMPLY AS A DEVELOPER PUT IT A
02:47:50 REQUEST FOR TWO SMALL REVISIONS TO THE PLAN.
02:47:54 AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH BY NEIGHBORS THAT HAD WE
02:47:58 BEEN INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL DISCUSSION WE WOULD HAVE
02:48:00 VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE GET-GO.
02:48:03 IT'S SIMPLY NOT IN CHARACTER WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL
02:48:06 NEIGHBORHOOD SINGLE-FAMILY LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTIES, AND I
02:48:10 THINK IT WILL BE HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT BOTH ON THE LIFESTYLE
02:48:14 AND THE INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE MADE IN THIS PROPERTY.
02:48:16 OUR PROPERTY VALUES UNQUESTIONABLY ARE GOING TO GO DOWN WITH
02:48:20 THIS TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA.
02:48:22 THANK YOU.
02:48:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:48:23 NEXT UP, JOHN MUELLER.
02:48:25 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN.
02:48:29 MY NAME IS JOHN MUELLER.
02:48:30 I LIVE AT THE INTERSECTION OF AZEELE STREET AND --
02:48:38 BOULEVARD; [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE
02:48:47 1976.
02:48:48 A FEW DECADES AGO, THE CITY RESPONDED TO THE -- AZEELE
02:48:56 STREET AND CLEVELAND STREET BY PLACING TRAFFIC ON ROOSEVELT
02:49:03 BOULEVARD, BUT DISSUADE COMMUTERS FROM USING SECONDARY ROADS
02:49:12 RATHER THAN A SLOWER ROUTE ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
02:49:32 [~DISTORTION~]
02:49:32 AT THE INTERSECTION OF CLEVELAND --
02:49:44 COUNCILMEN, OFF CONGESTION PROBLEM.
02:49:58 I'M SORRY.
02:50:00 COUNCILMEN, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A CONGESTION PROBLEM WHEN --
02:50:22 LASTLY, MANY YEARS AGO, EAST KENNEDY VIA CLEVELAND STREET.
02:50:35 [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
02:50:51 THE FIRST ONE IS AZEELE AT WESTSHORE WHERE THERE IS A LONG
02:50:56 WAIT TIME TRAFFIC LIGHT.
02:50:57 THE SECOND IS HOOVER BOULEVARD AT KENNEDY FOR THE APPROVAL
02:51:01 OF THIS PROJECT.
02:51:04 CLEVELAND STREET AT WESTSHORE WHERE THERE IS NO TRAFFIC
02:51:08 LIGHT.
02:51:09 COUNCILMEN, THIS PROJECT AND SIMILAR FUTURE PROJECTS --
02:51:22 INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND INCREASE THE
02:51:24 APPROXIMATE TAX BASE, SO THAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE, AND NEED A
02:51:29 TRAFFIC IMPACT BY INCREASE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
02:51:33 I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT FOR THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION CONCERNS
02:51:36 OUTLINED AND THE IMPACT TO QUALITY OF LIFE ENJOYED BY THE
02:51:41 RESIDENTS OF BEACH PARK.
02:51:42 THANK YOU.
02:51:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:51:44 ALL RIGHT.
02:51:44 WE ARE GOING TO BRING IN THE NEXT GROUP.
02:51:48 TO SPEAK.
02:51:49 I SEE -- I'M SORRY, I SEE CASTELLANO.
02:51:59 IS THERE GOING TO BE A COURTNEY OR DID YOU BOTH REGISTER?
02:52:02 >> MY NAME IS --
02:52:13 >>> WAIT JUST A MINUTE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS A
02:52:16 SEPARATION.
02:52:16 WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE ON THE LINE?
02:52:18 >> MY NAME IS DR. DOMINIQUE CASTELLANO.
02:52:28 MY WIFE WAS TO SPEAK AS WELL.
02:52:30 MY NEIGHBOR WAS UNABLE TO REGISTER SO MY WIFE GAVE UP HER
02:52:35 SLOT SO HE COULD SPEAK.
02:52:36 AND THEN MY TIME FOR MY EXPERIENCE.
02:52:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S BRING THE NEXT GROUP OF
02:52:41 INDIVIDUALS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AND WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN.
02:52:44 >>THE CLERK: MR. DOMINIQUE CASTELLANO, YOU NEED TO TURN ON
02:52:51 YOUR VIDEO.
02:52:55 >> IS IT NOT ON?
02:52:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOUR
02:52:59 FACE.
02:53:00 >> WEB CAMS, ALL.
02:53:02 I CLICKED IT.
02:53:02 OH, MY GOSH.
02:53:05 I'M VERY SORRY.
02:53:07 I HAVE GOT MY VOICE ON AND WHAT I THINK I AM VIEWING THE
02:53:11 VIDEO.
02:53:12 SO I AM NOT SURE HOW TO CHANGE THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
02:53:15 I'M VERY SORRY.
02:53:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:53:17 WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE THAT'S LOGGED IN?
02:53:21 >> I HAVE CAROLYN BEACHLER.
02:53:23 SHE NEEDS TO ENABLE HER VIDEO AS WELL.
02:53:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:53:28 >>THE CLERK: ALONG WITH ALFREDO.
02:53:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:53:33 CAROLYN BEACHLER, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
02:53:47 I SEE CAROLYN.
02:53:48 I DO NOT SEE DOMINICK.
02:53:50 >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN -- THIS IS INTERESTING.
02:54:01 CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?
02:54:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:54:04 >> WELL, HE DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN DO DIFFERENTLY, SO I
02:54:10 APOLOGIZE.
02:54:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:54:12 THE ONE PERSON I SEE, IS IT DR. INGA?
02:54:16 ALL RIGHT.
02:54:16 WE'LL START WITH YOU.
02:54:17 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN.
02:54:20 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
02:54:23 ARE GOING TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING
02:54:23 BUT THE TRUTH?
02:54:27 >> I DO.
02:54:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
02:54:28 >> OKAY.
02:54:37 I MOVED TO MARINER BEACH IN 1988.
02:54:44 I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN --
02:54:54 IN 1982, HURRICANE ELENA, WE WERE LIVING THERE, AND AT 3:00
02:55:02 IN THE MORNING, AWAKENED BY THE POLICE, SO PEOPLE HAVE TO
02:55:07 TAKE THEIR CHILDREN, EVERYTHING, TO MOVE IN TWO HOURS, AND
02:55:12 THEN IT WAS ALL TRAUMATIC.
02:55:23 AND THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM.
02:55:58 MY SEAWALL IS NEXT TO THE WATER.
02:56:24 SO WANT TO --
02:56:38 WHEN IT RAINS, A COUPLE OF TIMES, SO THIS IS VERY CLOSE
02:56:53 [~INDISCERNIBLE~]
02:57:17 YOU KNOW THE LEVEL OF THE OCEAN IS RISING.
02:57:19 IN FACT, UNDERWATER, NOW LIKE I TOLD YOU, I HAVE TO RAISE MY
02:57:30 SEAWALL.
02:57:31 NOW YOU WANT TO ADD?
02:57:40 I THINK THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE MATTERS, PEOPLE AT RISK.
02:57:52 A STRONG PROCEDURE TO ALLOW THIS, IN MY OPINION, EH, LACK
02:58:07 OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT, BUT FOR THE SAFETY OF
02:58:22 THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE.
02:58:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
02:58:31 ALL RIGHT.
02:58:33 DOMINICK CASTELLANO, WE SEE YOU.
02:58:40 DOMINICK CASTELLANO.
02:58:42 >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
02:58:45 ARE GOING TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING
02:58:45 BUT THE TRUTH?
02:58:46 >> YES, I DO.
02:58:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
02:58:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME
02:58:50 THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
02:58:52 SO AS A NATIVE TO TAMPA, I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE I HAVE BEEN
02:58:56 AN INFANT, AND I HAVE GONE TO HIGH SCHOOL, I WENT TO MEDICAL
02:59:02 SCHOOL, AND ONLY WENT AWAY FOR RESIDENCY AND TRAINING.
02:59:06 I HAVE SEEN TAMPA GROW, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
02:59:08 HOWEVER, WHAT I HAVE APPRECIATED, IN PARTICULAR THE SOUTH
02:59:11 TAMPA AREA, SOUTH OF KENNEDY, SEEMS TO BE DEVELOPING TOO
02:59:14 FAST.
02:59:15 THE GEOGRAPHY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS AREA IS
02:59:17 DIFFERENT GUARD TO THE REST OF THOSE AREAS NORTH OF KENNEDY.
02:59:24 IT'S HARDER TO COME TO OVERCROWDED BECAUSE OF THE
02:59:27 DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
02:59:29 AND WHAT I AM REFERENCING TO ARE THOSE AREAS THAT SOUTH OF
02:59:31 GANDY.
02:59:32 AND AS I HAVE LISTENED TO MULTIPLE MEETINGS TODAY AND OTHER
02:59:35 HOMERS VOICED THEIR DISAPPROVAL, PARTICULARLY THOSE
02:59:37 INDIVIDUALS SOUTH OF GANDY, WHAT I SEE IS WHAT WE ARE GOING
02:59:41 TO ALLOW NOW IS GOING TO BECOME WHAT THEY ARE LIVING
02:59:44 THROUGH, AND I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE
02:59:49 FOREFRONT IS THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE APARTMENTS AND CONDOS AND
02:59:52 TOWNHOMES SOUTH OF GANDY THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED.
02:59:54 IN PARTICULAR WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB AS WELL AS THE MARINA
03:00:01 PROJECT.
03:00:02 THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DONE
03:00:04 THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT WESTSHORE, NAMELY GEORGETOWN.
03:00:09 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES THAT GO IN THERE, AND IT
03:00:12 HASN'T EVEN BEEN TOUCHED YET.
03:00:14 IN ADDITION YOU HAVE WESTSHORE MALL.
03:00:16 TO MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOING TO ALLOW 1500 UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
03:00:21 THAT TOO IS NOT COMING TO DEVELOPMENT AND YET WESTSHORE
03:00:25 YACHT CLUB IS GOING TO ADD ANOTHER TOWER AS WELL AS
03:00:27 APPROXIMATELY 22 TOWNHOMES.
03:00:29 SO I DO HAVE SOME UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE AND I LIVE IN THE
03:00:33 WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB FOR NINE MONTHS.
03:00:35 I GOT TO EXPERIENCE WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE SOUTH
03:00:38 OF GANDY ARE GOING THROUGH.
03:00:40 FROM RUSH HOUR IN THE MORNING AND EVENING IT'S CRAZY.
03:00:43 YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT ROAD, BYPASS WESTSHORE, TRY TO GET TO
03:00:47 MANHATTAN, GET ON KENNEDY -- EXCUSE ME, GET ON GANDY, AND
03:00:51 THEN WORK YOUR WAY TOWARDS DALE MABRY TO WORK YOURSELVES
03:00:54 NORTH.
03:00:54 IN ADDITION, THIS BRINGS TO MY CONCERN FOR THE CURRENT
03:00:57 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BAY CENTER.
03:01:00 IT'S A VERY LARGE BIDDING, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S
03:01:03 BEEN A PROPOSAL FOR ANOTHER BUILDING AT 200 SOUTH HOOVER, AS
03:01:06 WELL AS AN EVEN BIGGER BUILDING AT 5600 MARINER STREET.
03:01:11 AND MY POINT IS THAT WE ARE NOT READY FOR THIS.
03:01:14 AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY
03:01:17 COUNCILMAN, GUDES AND --
03:01:25 THERE'S ALSO LIGHT POLLUTION.
03:01:26 IN ADDITION BEE REQUEST NEVER NOTIFIED OF WHAT WAS GOING TO
03:01:28 BE BUILT HERE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2018 ON MARINER AND
03:01:32 I NEVER KNEW THEY WERE TRANCE IGGING THE BUILDING TO WHAT
03:01:35 THEY ARE DOING NOW.
03:01:36 AND I AM VERY FRUSTRATED BY THIS.
03:01:38 THE ONLY REASON I HAPPENED TO FIND OUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED
03:01:41 IS BECAUSE OF NEIGHBORS PUTTING OUT SIGNS TO MAKE US AWARE.
03:01:44 THERE WAS NEVER ANY SIGNAGE TO NOTIFY US AS TO THE MAGNITUDE
03:01:48 OF THIS BUILDING.
03:01:48 I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU REEVALUATE THIS, POSTPONE
03:01:52 IT, TO ALLOW MYSELF AND OTHER NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS
03:01:55 INVOLVED TO BE A PART OF THIS.
03:01:57 WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING
03:02:00 THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
03:02:03 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
03:02:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:02:07 ALL RIGHT.
03:02:07 THE NEXT ROW OF SPEAKERS.
03:02:08 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, WE HAVE CAROLYN ON THE LINE BUT SHE HAS
03:02:17 NOT ENABLED HER VIDEO.
03:02:19 NO ONE HAS LOGGED ON.
03:02:21 THAT WILL CONCLUDE THIS PORTION.
03:02:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO CAN WE GO TO CAROLYN?
03:02:28 >> SHE HAS NOT --
03:02:31 >>> CAROLYN BEACHLER, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF
03:02:35 AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON. IF NOT, THIS WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC
03:02:38 COMMENT.
03:02:44 NO?
03:02:44 WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING?
03:02:46 ALL RIGHT.
03:02:50 OKAY.
03:02:51 WE WILL THEN GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL.
03:02:56 AND YOU ASKED FOR TEN MINUTES.
03:02:58 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. MECHANIK?
03:03:01 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES.
03:03:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY.
03:03:05 I'M SPORE TO INTERRUPT.
03:03:06 BUT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME BY CITY COUNCIL, THE
03:03:08 PURPOSE OF REBUTTAL IS TO HAVE THE APPLICANT HAVE THE LAST
03:03:12 WORD.
03:03:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
03:03:13 ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
03:03:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF NOT THEN WE CAN PROCEED.
03:03:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS A QUESTION.
03:03:19 GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:03:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:03:23 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
03:03:26 YES, IS STAFF STILL ON THE LINE?
03:03:28 I HOPE SO.
03:03:32 THERE'S RYAN.
03:03:33 ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE RAISED IN 2018 APPROVAL, AND THE
03:03:37 IT APPEARS TO BE CARRYING OVER TO THIS REQUESTED APPROVAL,
03:03:41 IS THE ISSUE OF A POSSIBLE WAIVER OF THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY
03:03:49 STANDARD.
03:03:50 AND ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT NOT
03:03:56 ONLY AESTHETICS BUT ALSO THE MOBILITY STANDARD A PART OF THE
03:04:01 WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
03:04:02 CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF -- AND I READ THE
03:04:07 STAFF REPORT, AND I READ YOUR COMMENTS, BASICALLY,
03:04:12 SUMMARIZED AS, YOU KNOW, WELL, THEY WERE APPROVED ON THE
03:04:17 EXISTING BUILDING, AND THEN THE 2018 TO WAIVE THE WESTSHORE
03:04:23 STANDARD, SO IT MIGHT BE SORT OF WEIRD TO REQUIRE THE
03:04:27 WESTSHORE STANDARDS ON THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
03:04:30 I THINK THAT SEEMS TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I READ.
03:04:33 BUT ANYWAY, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT?
03:04:37 THEN I HAVE ONE OR TWO OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:04:39 I WILL RESERVE MY TIME.
03:04:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR, I WILL DO MY BEST BUT I THINK YOU
03:04:46 KIND OF ANSWERED THE WAY I WOULD ANSWER.
03:04:47 THE WAIVER WAS REQUESTED IN 2018.
03:04:49 MENT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
03:04:51 AND THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT AS A ROLLOVER WAIVER IN THIS
03:04:53 REQUEST.
03:04:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, MY QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, RYAN,
03:04:57 BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, IS WHAT ARE THOSE STANDARDS?
03:05:02 CAN HE ELABORATE ON THOSE STANDARDS?
03:05:04 BECAUSE IF WE ARE WAIVING SOMETHING, WE SHOULD KNOW
03:05:06 SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE ARE WAIVING.
03:05:07 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO THE CODE FOR THAT.
03:05:12 I MEAN THERE'S A CODE SECTION FOR THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY
03:05:14 STANDARD.
03:05:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU GENERALIZE OR SHOULD WE REFER TO
03:05:18 SOMEBODY ELSE?
03:05:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: RANDY MAY HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE.
03:05:25 I AM NOT AN URBAN DESIGN REVIEWER FOR IT SO I DON'T WANT TO
03:05:29 GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF A CODE SECTION THAT'S ESTABLISHED
03:05:32 AND THEN MISS SOMETHING OUT.
03:05:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU KNOW WHAT?
03:05:34 LET ME ASK THE RESIDENT EXPERT IN THE MIDDLE OF MY SCREEN,
03:05:37 MR. COEN.
03:05:38 YOU PROBABLY DRAFTED MOST OF THE WESTSHORE STANDARDS, AND I
03:05:41 TRUST YOU TO BE ABUNDANTLY HONEST BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS ARE.
03:05:45 SO WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS, THE WESTSHORE STANDARDS THAT
03:05:48 MIGHT BE APPLIED TO THIS BUILDING?
03:05:50 WHAT IS THAT THE WE ARE BEING ASKED TO WAIVE?
03:05:53 >> RANDY COEN: THE FIRST FOR BUILDING SETBACKS, WHICH THIS
03:05:59 PROJECT ACTUALLY DOES PRETTY MUCH COMPLY WITH, MINIMUM OF 10
03:06:03 FEET MAXIMUM OF 20 FEET.
03:06:05 THE ONLY AREA IN QUESTION WOULD BE THE AMENITY AREA WHICH IS
03:06:09 RECOGNIZED AS THE PART OF THE SETBACK.
03:06:12 SO OUR SETBACKS ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE EXCEPTION
03:06:15 OF THE TRASH COMPACTER ON THE VERY EASTERN PORTION OF THE
03:06:20 SITE WHERE THERE IS A FIVE FOOT SETBACK FOR A CORNER OF THE
03:06:24 COMPACTER ENCLOSURE.
03:06:27 THE OTHER TWO LIKELY STANDARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WOULD
03:06:30 BE FENESTRATION, IN OTHER WORDS THE BUILDING BEING
03:06:34 EMBELLISHED, NOT BEING FLAT PLAIN.
03:06:36 IT CERTAINLY IS NOT THAT WITH THE GLASS, THE RAILING, THE
03:06:39 OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
03:06:40 THE THIRD ITEM IS TRANSPARENCY ON THE GROUND LEVEL, WHICH I
03:06:43 BELIEVE THIS PROJECT PROBABLY DOES MEET ALL OF.
03:06:46 I HAVE NOT DONE THAT CALCULATION ON THE EXACT PERCENTAGE.
03:06:49 BUT CERTAINLY SEEMS THAT IT WOULD MEET THAT AS WELL.
03:06:53 AS A MATTER OF FACT IRONICALLY, WE HAVE A WAIVER IN THIS
03:06:56 PARTICULAR PROJECT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS
03:07:02 DOWN TO TWO AS OPPOSED TO REQUIRED UNDER CODE. THIS WERE IN
03:07:09 THE OVERLAY WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT WAIVER BECAUSE IN THE
03:07:11 OVERLAY, ONLY ONE LOADING BERTH IS REQUIRED PER BUILDING
03:07:15 THAT REQUIRES ANY LOADING BERTH WHATSOEVER.
03:07:17 SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING IS PRETTY
03:07:21 CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERLAY.
03:07:23 WE ALSO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA.
03:07:28 A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THIS PROJECT VERY CONSISTENT
03:07:32 WITH THE OVERLAY.
03:07:33 HOWEVER, THE ISSUE BECOMES THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING
03:07:35 WHICH IS A PART OF THIS PD.
03:07:38 THAT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THE OVERLAY ACTUALLY
03:07:40 EVEN APPLIED IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS WHY THIS WAIVER IS HERE.
03:07:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY ASPECTS?
03:07:49 THEY HAVE BEEN REFERENCED TO.
03:07:51 YOU HAVE BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THEM OVER THE YEARS.
03:07:53 >> BASICALLY, THIS PROJECT MEETS THE MOBILITY REQUIREMENTS
03:07:58 THAT ARE IN THE OVERLAY WHICH BUILDINGS BROUGHT TO THE
03:08:01 STREET FRONT, HAVING MAXIMUM SETBACK 20 FEET, MINIMUM OF 10,
03:08:06 CONNECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS WHICH THIS HAS.
03:08:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I ALSO SAW REFERENCE TO THE
03:08:14 HARTLINE.
03:08:14 IT SAYS THE HARTLINE NUMBER 30 SERVICES THIS PROJECT.
03:08:20 I HAVE GOT -- HARTLINE NUMBER 30 PROBABLY SERVICES WESTSHORE
03:08:25 MALL, CORRECT?
03:08:27 >> POINT IN FACT THAT BOTH THE SERVICE FROM HARTLINE IS TO
03:08:30 THE CORNER OF WESTSHORE AND KENNEDY.
03:08:32 IT'S APPROXIMATELY 4,000, 4300 LINEAR FEET FROM THIS
03:08:37 PARTICULAR SITE.
03:08:39 THIS PROJECT WAS REQUIRED TO PUT IN A BUS STOP AS PART OF
03:08:42 ITS ORIGINAL APPROVAL IF IN FACT HARTLINE DECIDED THEY
03:08:47 WANTED A BUS STOP IN THE AREA BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO
03:08:49 PROVIDE SERVICE.
03:08:50 THEY IN FACT DID NOT WISH TO HAVE A BUS STOP THERE, WHICH IS
03:08:53 THE REASON THERE IS NOT A BUS STOP ON THIS PROPERTY AT THIS
03:08:56 PARTICULAR POINT.
03:08:58 I KNOW WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT
03:09:02 IT, AND IF HEART APPROACHES US REGARDING A BUS STOP BECAUSE
03:09:06 THEY WERE GOING TO PUT TRANSIT IN THIS AREA, I THINK IT
03:09:09 WOULD BE VERY FAVORABLY RECEIVED.
03:09:11 BUT THERE ARE NO PLANS WHATSOEVER FOR HART TO EXTEND THE BUS
03:09:14 ROUTE INTO THIS AREA.
03:09:17 EVEN IF THEY DID THE LANGUAGE OTHER THAN COMING ALL THE WAY
03:09:20 TO THE FAR WESTERN END OF BAY CENTER DRIVE NEVER PROBABLY
03:09:24 HAD LIFE.
03:09:27 SO THAT ADDRESSES HART THE BEST I CAN AT THIS POINT.
03:09:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:09:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
03:09:35 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
03:09:37 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. COEN OR MR. MECHANIK, COULD YOU LET US
03:09:42 KNOW, REMIND US, I THINK WE COVERED PART OF THIS AT A PRIOR
03:09:46 MEETING BUT JUST REMIND US WHAT THE CURRENT DENSITY IS
03:09:50 ALLOWED NOW AND HOW, WHAT THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS WOULD BE,
03:09:53 THAT TRAFFIC VOLUME COMPARED TO WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING?
03:09:56 >> I COULD ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
03:10:03 THIS IS RANDY COEN, ADDRESSING THE PROJECT.
03:10:08 >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE DID NOTHING, IT'S ALREADY APPROVED
03:10:12 PRIOR FOR CERTAIN KIND OF TRAFFIC, AND THEN THIS NEW
03:10:17 APPROVAL, IF IT WENT THROUGH, WOULD HAVE WHAT?
03:10:23 >>RANDY COEN: SPEAKING OF PHASE 2, WE WOULD HAVE 233 TRIPS
03:10:28 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUILDING UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, AND THERE
03:10:31 WOULD BE 88 VEHICLE TRIPS.
03:10:33 IN THE AFTERNOON, THE APPROVED NUMBER OF TRIPS ARE 236
03:10:39 TRIPS.
03:10:39 THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS THAT WOULD COME FROM THIS
03:10:41 APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD BE -- WHERE REDUCED AMOUNT OF UNITS
03:10:46 WOULD BE 105 TRIPS.
03:10:48 THAT IS WHY WE HAVE 135 TRIPS LESS IN THE MORNING AND 131
03:10:54 TRIPS LESS IN THE AFTERNOON THAN APPROVED WHICH WOULD BE THE
03:10:59 LARGE RECTANGULAR BUILDING WITH EITHER OFFICE OR MULTIFAMILY
03:11:04 OR HOTEL.
03:11:04 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IF SOMEONE FROM THE CITY CAN CONFIRM
03:11:13 THAT. IF WE DID NOTHING TODAY, THE CONFIGURATION HE JUST
03:11:20 SAID WOULD BE THE REALITY IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD THAT,
03:11:23 CORRECT?
03:11:23 THE APPROVAL HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN IN THE PAST?
03:11:25 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:11:31 SO IT WAS THERE AN APPROVAL OBVIOUSLY IN 2018, MAYBE BEFORE,
03:11:36 AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC INFORMATION.
03:11:38 MELANIE -- I COULD CONFER WITH HER, RELATE OVER TO HER ABOUT
03:11:45 TRAFFIC GENERATION TRIPS.
03:11:46 BUT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THE ZONING THAT IS APPROVED.
03:11:53 >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
03:11:54 RYAN IS CORRECT.
03:11:55 THEY ARE ALREADY APPROVED, AND I AGREE WITH RANDY ON HIS
03:11:58 TRIP ANALYSIS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO USES.
03:12:01 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD GET EITHER OF YOU, MR. COEN OR
03:12:07 MS. CALLOWAY, SINCE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO
03:12:10 SPEAK AGAIN, THE NUMBERS YOU JUST PRESENTED SAID THAT --
03:12:15 JUST LOOKING AT THE RAW NUMBERS SHOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD
03:12:17 BE MUCH WORSE OFF WITH AN ALREADY APPROVED OFFICE BUILDING
03:12:21 THAN THEY WOULD WITH THIS OTHER PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE.
03:12:23 AND THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF SKEPTICISM, AND WE CAN'T HEAR
03:12:27 WHAT THEY ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY PROBABLY WOULD
03:12:30 THINK OTHERWISE.
03:12:31 I MEAN, IN EITHER OF YOUR EXPERIENCE, HOW ARE THE TRAFFIC
03:12:36 PATTERNS DIFFERENT FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING VERSUS
03:12:38 RESIDENTIAL, AND HOW -- WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS TO THE
03:12:42 NEIGHBORHOOD?
03:12:43 >> RANDY COEN, IF YOU WILL.
03:12:48 FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE REASON WE HAVE LESS TRAFFIC IS
03:12:50 BECAUSE BUILDING 546 DWELLING UNITS.
03:12:54 THE PROPOSAL IS TO BUILD 292.
03:12:57 THAT'S A 48% DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS, 50% DECREASE
03:13:03 IN TRAFFIC.
03:13:04 SO THOSE ARE THE PERTINENT ISSUES OF WHAT HAPPENS.
03:13:07 THERE WILL BE LESS PROJECT TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS AS A
03:13:10 RESULT OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IF YOU DO
03:13:16 SO.
03:13:16 FROM A TRAFFIC STANDARD, TRAFFIC PATTERN STANDPOINT, I HAVE
03:13:22 LIVED IN BEACH PARK FOR THE LAST 47 YEARS.
03:13:24 I ACTUALLY SPENT 10, 12 YEARS OF MY LIFE WORKING IN OFFICE
03:13:30 BUILDINGS IN THE KROEGER OFFICE PARK.
03:13:31 THE DISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME FOR
03:13:34 RESIDENTIAL AS IT IS FOR OFFICE.
03:13:36 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE OF COURSE IS IN THE MORNING, RESIDENTIAL
03:13:39 TRAFFIC IS LEAVING THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT, WHERE TRAFFIC IS
03:13:43 COMING TO THE OFFICE IN THE AFTERNOON OR THE REVERSE.
03:13:48 THE PATTERNS ARE THE SAME.
03:13:49 IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF IS IT COME IN IN THE MORNING OR
03:13:52 GOING OUT IN THE MORNING?
03:13:53 SAME IN THE AFTERNOON.
03:13:54 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST QUESTION.
03:14:00 SINCE THE ENTITLEMENT ON THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WAS DONE A
03:14:02 LONG TIME AGO, IF THEY CAME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT MET
03:14:06 THE CRITERIA THEY ARE ALREADY APPROVED FOR, THERE'S IN A WAY
03:14:10 CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY COULD STOP IT, IS THAT CORRECT?
03:14:12 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:14:15 THAT IS CORRECT SIR.
03:14:16 SO IF A PD DOESN'T GO DEVELOPED FOR FIVE YEARS IT HAS TO GO
03:14:21 THROUGH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW IN ORDER TO BE ENACTED.
03:14:23 IN THIS CASE, LAST WAS APPROVED IN 2018.
03:14:26 THEREFORE, THEY COULD DEVELOP UNDER THAT PREVIOUS REZONING
03:14:30 PLAN.
03:14:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:14:39 MR. MECHANIK, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR REBUTTAL.
03:14:43 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
03:14:44 I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
03:14:47 I ACTUALLY HAVE ABOUT ELEVEN MINUTES SO I WILL KEEP MY
03:14:50 REBUTTAL TO NINE MINUTES IF I ASKED FOR 20 MINUTES.
03:14:56 THE FIRST COMMENT IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN REFERENCE TO THE
03:15:02 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
03:15:05 AND OF COURSE AS COUNCIL KNOWS, ALL OF THESE POLICIES TALK
03:15:10 ABOUT NOT INCREASING POPULATION, AND AS WE HAVE SAID OVER
03:15:17 AND OVER AGAIN, WE ARE NOT INCREASING POPULATION, WE ARE
03:15:20 DECREASING POPULATION BY ABOUT 48%.
03:15:29 SO AGAIN ALL THOSE COMMENTS ARE REALLY MISS DIRECTED GIVEN
03:15:31 THE FACT THAT THIS PROPOSED PROJECT WILL HAVE LESS TRAFFIC,
03:15:36 LESS POPULATION THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED ON THE
03:15:40 PROPERTY.
03:15:40 SO THE CITATION TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD IS NOT
03:15:51 APPROPRIATE.
03:15:51 THE ATTORNEY HASN'T DEMONSTRATED THAT WE HAVEN'T COMPLIED
03:15:55 WITH THE BUILDING CODE OR REGULATIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE
03:16:00 SHE PRACTICES LAW, BUT YOU DON'T SUBMIT NO -- LAND AS PART
03:16:06 OF THE ZONING.
03:16:08 WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION
03:16:10 PLAN MEETS FLORIDA BUILDING CODES, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THE
03:16:14 CITY OF TAMPA WILL REQUIRE US TO MEET THE FLORIDA BUILDING
03:16:18 CODE AND THE FEMA REGULATIONS.
03:16:21 AND THIS BUILDING WILL -- THE MINIMUM FLOOD ELEVATION AND BE
03:16:27 LESS FLOOD PRONE THAN ALL OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN THE
03:16:31 BEACH PARK AREA.
03:16:33 LET ME TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
03:16:37 AND RANDY HAS PUT UP THE MEMO.
03:16:40 APPARENTLY THAN THE ATTORNEYS DIDN'T --
03:16:47 WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL
03:16:49 DISTRICT, AND I WILL JUST QUOTE THE APPROPRIATE -- STATED
03:16:56 WHAT THEY CALLED AN ADEQUATE FACILITIES ANALYSIS, AND THEIR
03:17:00 CONCLUSION WAS THE CAPACITY DOES EXIST IN ADJACENT
03:17:06 CONCURRENCY AREAS AT THE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL
03:17:11 LEVEL.
03:17:12 THIS IS ALREADY PART OF OUR RECORD OF OUR APPLICATION, BUT
03:17:18 WE WILL BE HAPPY TO RESUBMIT IT TO THE CLERK IN THE MORNING.
03:17:26 THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT INCOMPATIBILITY, AND THE
03:17:30 COMPARISON WAS MADE BETWEEN OUR PROPOSED BUILDING AT 9
03:17:34 STORIES, AND A NUMBER OF 4-STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE
03:17:40 KROEGER CENTER.
03:17:41 THE ATTORNEY DID NOT CARE TO MENTION THAT WE ARE ADJACENT TO
03:17:46 TWO EIGHT-STORY CONDO TOWERS, AND YOUR STAFF THROUGH MR.
03:17:53 MANASSE OFFERED A DIRECT CONCLUSION IN HIS REPORT THAT WE
03:17:59 WERE COMPATIBLE REGARDING SITE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S
03:18:04 YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF WHO MADE THAT DETERMINATION.
03:18:11 FINALLY, THE SUGGESTION THAT WE ARE NOT -- OR THAT WE ARE
03:18:16 INCREASING ON FIELD DEPENDENT IS ALSO SALACIOUS IN N THAT WE
03:18:23 ARE REDUCING POPULATION, AND WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
03:18:27 ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE TRANSIT IF IT WERE AVAILABLE
03:18:32 ANYWHERE NEAR THE PROPERTY.
03:18:36 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONCLUDE BY REFERRING TO A COMMENT
03:18:42 MADE BY ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OUR FIRST HEARING.
03:18:52 WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID WAS THEY COULD GO OUT AND BUILD 546
03:18:57 UNITS TOMORROW.
03:18:59 IF IT WAS ME, I'D RATHER SEE 292 UNITS THAN 546 UNITS.
03:19:07 AND WITH THAT, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER
03:19:13 THE VERY SIMPLE FACT THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THIS CASE.
03:19:17 THIS PROPOSAL IS LESS TRAFFIC, LESS POPULATION, WILL HAVE
03:19:22 LESS IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:19:25 AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
03:19:28 THANK YOU.
03:19:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:19:31 IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I WILL ASK FOR
03:19:33 A MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:19:34 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:19:36 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
03:19:39 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
03:19:42 ALL RIGHT.
03:19:42 WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.
03:19:45 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
03:19:48 WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS ITEM?
03:19:51 COUNCILMAN VIERA, YES, SIR.
03:19:53 >>LUIS VIERA: I READ AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
03:19:59 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
03:20:01 VICINITY OF 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
03:20:04 FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
03:20:06 ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
03:20:08 OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL, HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL,
03:20:11 MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS
03:20:15 PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL, HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY,
03:20:18 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:20:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
03:20:21 VIERA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:20:25 MR. MANASSE?
03:20:28 RYAN RUIN PLEASE CLUE THE REVISED REVISION SHEETS FOR THE
03:20:31 PROPOSED HE ADDITION.
03:20:34 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:20:35 SO INCLUDED.
03:20:37 I HAD FORGOTTEN.
03:20:38 THANK YOU.
03:20:38 >>> VERY GOOD.
03:20:39 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER VIERA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:20:43 WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON.
03:20:45 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:20:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
03:20:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:20:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:20:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
03:21:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
03:21:06 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:21:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
03:21:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH GUDES, DINGFELDER,
03:21:13 MANISCALCO, AND CITRO VOTING NO.
03:21:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:21:22 WE NEED A MOTION, MR. SHELBY?
03:21:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS CALLED OUT OF THE ROOM.
03:21:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION FAILED FOR APPROVAL.
03:21:34 4 TO 3.
03:21:36 3 TO 4.
03:21:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, WHAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE THEN?
03:21:45 A REMAINDER THAT YOUR DECISION MUST BE BASED ON COMPETENT,
03:21:48 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD, AND CERTAINLY IF COUNCIL
03:21:51 HAS CERTAIN PARTICULAR FINDINGS OF FACT THAT IT WISHES TO
03:21:53 MAKE, RELATIVE TO BE THAT, THEN YOU SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE AS
03:21:56 WELL.
03:21:57 THE MAKER OF THE MOTION CAN ALWAYS GET SUPPORT FROM OTHER
03:22:00 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
03:22:01 IF COUNCIL MEMBERS SEE SO FIT.
03:22:04 SO COUNCIL?
03:22:05 WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
03:22:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY?
03:22:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A COMMENT.
03:22:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
03:22:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AT THIS POINT, MY CONCERNS -- I HEARD
03:22:27 WHAT MR. CARLSON SAID, AND FRANKLY, I SAID THE SAME THING AT
03:22:31 THE VERY FIRST HEARING, THAT AS A MATTER OF RECORD, IN
03:22:34 REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF UNITS, AND FRANKLY THE NUMBER OF
03:22:38 RESIDENTIAL TRIPS, THE NUMBER OF UNITS, I BELIEVE, HAS BEEN
03:22:45 REDUCED FROM THE 2018 APPROVAL TO 546 UNITS TO 292 UNITS,
03:22:52 AND STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE INDICATED THE SAME
03:22:59 REDUCTION IN NUMBER OF TRIPS.
03:23:02 AT LEAST MORNING AND A.M. AND P.M. PEAK TRIPS.
03:23:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:23:12 WITH NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR --
03:23:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS AHEAD OF THE MOTION.
03:23:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
03:23:19 WELL, THANK YOU.
03:23:20 OTHERWISE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING SOMETHING
03:23:22 THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE TESTIMONY OR QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS,
03:23:25 THEN THE HEARING SHOULD BE REOPENED.
03:23:27 BUT --
03:23:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS JUST SORT OF REITERATING
03:23:30 TESTIMONY.
03:23:31 BUT MY CONCERN, AS I STATED EARLIER, I BELIEVE THEY ARE
03:23:35 ASKING FOR VARIANCE WAIVERS.
03:23:38 THEY ARE ASKING FOR WAIVER OF WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT,
03:23:41 STANDARD, THEY ARE ASKING FOR SIGNAGE WAIVERS, FRANKLY I
03:23:45 DIDN'T HEAR ANY TESTIMONY JUSTIFYING, THEY ARE ASKING FOR
03:23:48 LOADING BERTH WAIVER, AND SEVERAL OTHER WAIVERS THAT I SAW.
03:23:55 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN ADEQUATE TESTIMONY
03:23:58 JUSTIFYING THOSE WAIVERS ON ONE HAND.
03:24:00 I ALSO THINK THAT THE STAFF REPORT WAS INACCURATE AS RELATED
03:24:05 TO THE HART BUS, THE HART BUS NUMBER 30 IS ALMOST A MILE
03:24:10 AWAY AT THE INTERSECTION.
03:24:12 SO I THINK THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THIS APPLICATION.
03:24:17 I WOULD GIVE THE PETITIONER THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE
03:24:22 THIS, TO ADDRESS THOSE WAIVERS, IF THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE
03:24:28 THE WAIVERS AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND IT JUST COMES DOWN
03:24:32 TO REDUCTION IN NUMBER OF UNITS, THEN THIS COUNCILMAN MIGHT
03:24:35 BE MORE AMENABLE TO APPROVING IT.
03:24:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MIRANDA HAS HIS HAND UP.
03:24:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
03:24:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY MOTION IS TO ALLOW THEM, GIVE THEM
03:24:47 SIXTY DAYS, NINETY DAYS, WHATEVER THEY DESIRE, TO COME BACK
03:24:51 WITH A REVISED PLAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE WAIVERS THAT I
03:24:55 MENTIONED.
03:24:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, IF I CAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
03:25:00 MS. WELLS IS LOOKING TO BE RECOGNIZED.
03:25:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYBODY'S HANDS --
03:25:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND BUT I ASK THAT YOU LISTEN TO
03:25:07 THE ATTORNEY FIRST, PLEASE.
03:25:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. WELLS THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:25:11 >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
03:25:13 WITH RESPECT TO THE WAIVERS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, I WOULD
03:25:17 ADVISE COUNCIL THAT THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS THAT ARE
03:25:19 IDENTIFIED ON PAGE 1 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4,
03:25:23 THOSE WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND ARE NOT REALLY BEFORE YOU
03:25:27 FOR CONSIDERATION.
03:25:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY A
03:25:31 DIFFERENT --
03:25:32 >>CATE WELLS: AND WITH REGARD TO WAIVERS NUMBER 5 AND 6.
03:25:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
03:25:37 I RESPECTFULLY DIFFER.
03:25:38 THOSE WAIVERS WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS RELATED TO A
03:25:42 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT.
03:25:44 THIS PROJECT IS A NEW PD.
03:25:46 IF IT WASN'T A THAN NEW PD IT WOULDN'T BE IN FRONT OF US.
03:25:49 SO -- SO I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
03:25:52 I THINK THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR THOSE WAIVERS, THAT WE HAVE
03:25:55 A RIGHT TO EVALUATE THOSE WAIVERS.
03:25:57 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
03:25:59 EVIDENCE TO JUSTIFY THOSE WAIVERS, AND THEREFORE THUS MY
03:26:05 SUGGESTION OF A SIXTY TO NINETY DAY CONTINUANCE TO GIVE THEM
03:26:11 THE ABILITY TO REVISE THIS NEW SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE
03:26:14 WAIVERS.
03:26:15 SO THAT'S MY MOTION.
03:26:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:26:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF,
03:26:20 MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:26:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
03:26:25 I CAN'T IN ANY WAY -- AND FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING TODAY ON
03:26:30 THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 39 ON THE AGENDA, OR ANY OTHER ITEM
03:26:35 THAT COMES BEFORE ME, IN THE PAST, TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE.
03:26:39 ONCE A VOTE IS TAKEN FOR EITHER YAY OR NAY, TO BE OPENED,
03:26:43 NOT EVEN TO REOPEN BUT TO ASK, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY YAY OR THE
03:26:47 OTHER TO VOTE NO, AND FOR THE ONES THAT VOTED YES TO VOTE NO
03:26:51 OR WHATEVER.
03:26:53 IT IS IN THE RECORD BOOKS.
03:26:54 THE GAME IS OVER.
03:26:56 ONCE YOU OPEN, YOU CAN OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS, AND THE
03:27:00 ABILITY TO DEFEND ARE GOING TO BE AWFUL NIL.
03:27:04 AND I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY AND I AM NOT A JUDGE.
03:27:06 BUT IN THESE CASES, ONCE A VOTE IS TAKEN, IN MY OPINION, YOU
03:27:12 CANNOT SAY IF YOU COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE I AM GOING
03:27:16 TO VOTE FOR YOU.
03:27:17 WHETHER IT'S ME, AND I AM TALKING ABOUT MYSELF, NOT TALKING
03:27:20 ABOUT ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
03:27:21 I HAVE NO RIGHT TO GO ON AND SAY THAT I VOTED YAY OR NAY.
03:27:27 I VOTED MY CONVICTION ON WHAT I SAW HERE ON THE RECORD, WHAT
03:27:30 I SAW HERE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYING THAT THERE'S
03:27:34 CAPACITY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, ON THE ITEMS THAT I SAW
03:27:38 THAT WERE REGARDING THE DISPOSITION OF A YAY OR A NAY VOTE.
03:27:44 NEW BASED ON ANY OTHER FACTS OTHER THAN ONES THAT I HAVE
03:27:48 HEARD.
03:27:48 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:27:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:27:50 COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION.
03:27:52 IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?
03:27:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION THEN?
03:27:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION WAS TO CONTINUE IT FOR SIXTY OR
03:27:59 NINETY DAYS.
03:27:59 I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO PETITIONER TO ADDRESS THE WAIVERS
03:28:03 THAT I MENTIONED.
03:28:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?
03:28:07 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
03:28:14 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE WE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER?
03:28:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS MY POINT BEFORE WE VOTED.
03:28:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?
03:28:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE'S GOT TO BE A SECOND.
03:28:24 >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.
03:28:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION SECONDED BY VIERA.
03:28:29 MR. MECHANIK, YOU HEARD COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND HIS MOTION
03:28:32 TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR SIXTY, NINETY DAYS.
03:28:36 I HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME.
03:28:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND CAN I STOP IN CASE MR. MECHANIK WANTS
03:28:40 TO OFFER ANY FACTS?
03:28:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHOULD WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
03:28:44 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:28:45 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:28:46 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:28:47 ALL RIGHT.
03:28:48 PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
03:28:49 MR. MECHANIK.
03:28:53 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:28:54 THANK YOU.
03:28:59 MR. DINGFELDER, WE ADDRESSED THE WAIVERS AT THE FIRST
03:29:01 HEARING.
03:29:05 I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL AGAIN BECAUSE WE HAD
03:29:09 ADDRESSED THOSE.
03:29:10 BUT IF WE COULD BE PERMITTED, I WOULD ASK MR. COEN TO
03:29:16 ADDRESS BOTH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS AND THE
03:29:19 PROPOSED NEW ONES, AND I WOULD SAY FOR THE RECORD, I AGREE
03:29:23 WITH MS. WELLS, THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS, IF YOU
03:29:29 WILL, RUN WITH THE LAND, BUT I WILL ASK RANDY TO ADDRESS ALL
03:29:35 OF THEM AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
03:29:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AGAIN FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD
03:29:45 JUST SAY THEY RUN WITH THE LAND IF YOU STICK WITH THE SAME
03:29:48 PD.
03:29:49 YOU VOLUNTARILY COME HERE -- AND I AM JUST PUTTING THIS ON
03:29:51 THE RECORD -- YOU ARE VOLUNTARILY COMING HERE WE CAN A NEW
03:29:54 PD.
03:29:55 AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU ARE ASKING FOR THOSE WAIVERS TO
03:29:57 CARRY OVER.
03:29:58 I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:29:59 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY AUTOMATICALLY CARRY OVER.
03:30:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE HEARING
03:30:05 FRANKLY WAS REOPENED WITH THE PURPOSE OF ADDRESSING THE
03:30:09 MOTION THAT WAS ON THE FLOOR, SO ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE --
03:30:13 THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE POSED TO THE APPLICANT, THE
03:30:17 APPLICANT'S RHYTHM DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO BEGIN
03:30:19 THERE OR END THERE.
03:30:20 AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS EXPLANATION IS GOING TO TAKE.
03:30:23 MAYBE COUNCIL WISHES TO BE GET A SENSE OF HOW LONG THIS
03:30:27 DISCUSSION IS GOING TO GO ON TO ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
03:30:31 CONTINUANCE WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF OPENING THE HEARING.
03:30:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS CONTINUED FOR
03:30:35 SIXTY OR NINETY DAYS?
03:30:38 >>DAVID MECHANIK: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WOULD -- IF THAT'S AN
03:30:41 OPTION, WE WOULD TAKE A SIXTY DAY CONTINUANCE.
03:30:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
03:30:48 NO, MA'AM.
03:30:48 >> HELLO?
03:30:51 I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
03:30:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
03:30:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO.
03:30:55 I'M SORRY.
03:30:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE HEARING, THE TESTIMONY IS OVER.
03:31:01 ALL RIGHT.
03:31:02 IT'S APRIL 1st.
03:31:05 JUNE 17th WOULD BE -- OR JUNE 3rd WILL BE SIXTY DAYS
03:31:10 OUT.
03:31:14 MR. MECHANIK?
03:31:18 >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR.
03:31:19 WE WOULD ACCEPT THAT IF IT'S PERMISSIBLE.
03:31:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:31:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT MEANS I HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE MY
03:31:35 VOTE, RIGHT?
03:31:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:31:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:31:40 >>RYAN MANASSE: SORRY, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THEN,
03:31:42 SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING -- I KNOW YOU ARE
03:31:44 MOTIONING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 3rd, BUT WHAT
03:31:47 EXACTLY ARE THEY DOING THROUGH THIS CONTINUANCE, JUST
03:31:52 SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WAIVERS, I GUESS THEY ARE ADDRESSING?
03:31:54 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MY NOTES ARE CLEAR.
03:31:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST --
03:32:03 [NO ENCODER]
03:32:03 [NO ENCODER]
03:32:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:32:27 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK A WEEK AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
03:32:31 WHY MEETINGS GO SO LONG, AND I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS
03:32:33 IS THAT WE CONTINUE A LOT OF THEM.
03:32:35 AND I WOULD RATHER JUST VOTE UP OR DOWN, AND THEN THE
03:32:39 COMMUNITY WILL LEARN, THE ATTORNEYS OR OTHERS WILL LEARN,
03:32:46 YOU KNOW, HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS AND BRING THE RIGHT
03:32:49 INFORMATION AT THE RIGHT TIME.
03:32:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE MOTION WOULD BE CONTINUE THIS TO
03:32:55 JUNE 3rd UNDER 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS AT FIRST
03:33:00 READING.
03:33:02 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER -- YES, SIR?
03:33:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO BEING CLEAR.
03:33:07 NOW, MR. MECHANIK, IS IT YOUR REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE OR
03:33:11 YOU HAD NO OBJECTION TO CONTINUANCE?
03:33:13 I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT IT IS.
03:33:17 >>DAVID MECHANIK: WE HAVE NO -- WE DO NOT OBJECT TO THE
03:33:19 CONTINUANCE.
03:33:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU.
03:33:21 MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
03:33:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:33:24 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:33:26 ALL RIGHT.
03:33:26 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO JUNE 3rd,
03:33:29 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING FROM COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER.
03:33:33 AND WE HAD THE SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, OR SECOND FROM VIERA,
03:33:38 CORRECT?
03:33:39 ALL RIGHT.
03:33:40 AND THIS IS FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
03:33:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:33:43 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:33:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
03:33:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
03:33:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:33:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:33:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:33:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
03:33:59 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH MANISCALCO, CARLSON AND
03:34:03 CITRO AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
03:34:06 >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL?
03:34:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS ISN'T DENIED ALREADY?
03:34:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
03:34:18 ANY ACTION -- THIS IS A PUBLIC --
03:34:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I STAND CORRECTED.
03:34:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
03:34:23 JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE SOMETIMES
03:34:26 PEOPLE ASSUME THAT THAT AUTOMATICALLY HAPPENS.
03:34:30 UNDER THE CHARTER ANY OFFICIAL ACTION OF CITY COUNCIL
03:34:32 REQUIRES AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE TO APPROVE OR DENY FOUR VOTES.
03:34:38 SO COUNCIL, A MOTION IS IN ORDER.
03:34:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE TO DENY REZ 20-103 FOR THE PROPERTY
03:34:53 LOCATED AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE
03:34:58 APPLICANT TO MEET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT,
03:35:01 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AS CONDITION AS
03:35:04 SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
03:35:08 CITY CODE APPLICATIONS, FURTHER TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF
03:35:12 WITH RESPECT, BECAUSE IF THE WAIVER IS REQUESTED, COMPLY
03:35:17 WITH SECTION 27-139 (4) THE APPLICANT CANNOT PROVIDE
03:35:23 EVIDENCE THE DESIGN IS UNIQUE IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE
03:35:26 WAIVERS, AND FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
03:35:27 CODE SECTION 27-1346 PURPOSE OF SITE PLAN DISTRICT, THE
03:35:33 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT
03:35:35 PROMOTE OR ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE
03:35:38 LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND COMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING
03:35:41 NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:35:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
03:35:45 CITRO.
03:35:45 DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:35:46 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
03:35:48 ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:35:48 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
03:35:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:35:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
03:36:05 >>BILL CARLSON:
03:36:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO DENY.
03:36:10 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:36:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:36:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
03:36:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:36:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, DINGFELDER, CARLSON
03:36:24 AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
03:36:25 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
03:36:31 WHAT NOW?
03:36:32 I KNOW.
03:36:33 AND I JUST -- THANK YOU.
03:36:35 WHAT NOW, MY LOVE?
03:36:37 I THINK THAT THE PROPER THING PROBABLY TO DO, AND I DON'T
03:36:41 WANT TO SPEAK FOR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
03:36:43 I SAW HIM DO A MOTION TO CONTINUE, WHICH WAS DENIED, AND
03:36:46 THEN HE FLIPPED HIS VOTE.
03:36:48 I THINK AGAIN, I WILL LET OUR FRIENDS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES
03:36:51 BUT MAYBE I AM READING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS, BUT I
03:36:56 WILL LET JOHN SPEAK.
03:36:58 I'M JUST SAYING.
03:36:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU READ MY MIND.
03:37:04 I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME ISSUES.
03:37:06 THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THIS PROJECT.
03:37:08 THE DEVELOPER HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE CONTINUANCE FOR 60
03:37:13 DAYS.
03:37:13 AND I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO.
03:37:15 SO MR. VIERA, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT, I WILL BE GLAD.
03:37:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF IT'S ANYBODY'S INTENTION TO BE DO
03:37:22 THAT, COULD YOU PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC
03:37:25 HEARING?
03:37:26 >> SO MOVED.
03:37:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
03:37:33 GUDES.
03:37:33 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:37:34 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REOPENED.
03:37:35 >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, I WILL MAKE AGAIN COUNCILMAN
03:37:39 DINGFELDER'S MOTION TO CONTINUE PURSUANT TO THE TERMS
03:37:42 SPECIFIED WHICH I BELIEVE WERE SIXTY DAYS IF MEMORY SERVES
03:37:45 ME RIGHT.
03:37:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD DO IT TO A DATE AND TIME
03:37:49 CERTAIN.
03:37:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 3rd AT 10:30 A.M., SET THE
03:37:52 PUBLIC HEARING FOR FIRST READING.
03:37:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FOR FIRST READING
03:37:56 CONSIDERATION.
03:37:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:38:00 MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
03:38:02 SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
03:38:04 ROLL CALL.
03:38:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO:
03:38:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
03:38:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:38:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:38:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:38:16 >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:38:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
03:38:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON, MIRANDA AND
03:38:24 MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
03:38:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS CASE A THIRD
03:38:30 TIME.
03:38:30 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:38:31 ALL RIGHT.
03:38:32 THAT SETTLES THE AGENDA.
03:38:34 NOW WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
03:38:39 NUMBER 40 FOR ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
03:38:44 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR THAT OR ANYTHING AT THE
03:38:46 ADMINISTRATION UPDATE OR COVID UPDATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
03:38:50 I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF OF STAFF WAS ON.
03:38:54 I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING SPECIFIC.
03:39:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO DO A
03:39:03 COVID UPDATE.
03:39:04 HE'S AWARE OF IT.
03:39:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:39:07 WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 41 AND COME BACK TO IT.
03:39:09 ITEM NUMBER 41 IS AN $11 MILLION ITEM.
03:39:14 REGARDING COVID-19 EMERGENCY RELATED SERVICES ASSISTANCE
03:39:17 FUND RECEIVES BY THE CITY TO BE USED BY THE COUNTY TO
03:39:21 PROVIDE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS
03:39:24 LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:39:27 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:39:34 CAN I GET PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
03:39:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:39:50 WE CAN SEE IT.
03:39:51 GO AHEAD.
03:39:51 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:39:55 INTERIM MANAGER FOR HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.
03:40:00 WITH ME HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS DEPARTMENT TREASURY FUND THAT
03:40:04 WE GOT, I DID GET THAT APPLICATION BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020
03:40:08 TO APPLY FOR SOME FUND THAT COULD HELP OUR RESIDENTS WITH
03:40:11 RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
03:40:13 THIS WAS APPROVED -- THE FUNDING WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON
03:40:17 JANUARY 14.
03:40:19 AND THEN WE RECEIVED THE ACTUAL FUND ON THE 26th.
03:40:23 THE CITY IS RECEIVING A LITTLE BIT OVER $12 MILLION, AND
03:40:26 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS GETTING ROUGHLY $32 MILLION, SO WE
03:40:31 HAVE DISCUSSED JUST THE RESIDENTS FOR A JOINT EFFORT AND A
03:40:37 CENTRALIZED LOCATION.
03:40:38 I WILL SAY THAT THE COUNTY ALSO EXTENDED THEIR GRATITUDE TO
03:40:42 APPROVE US WORKING TOGETHER WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO FOCUS MORE
03:40:46 ON ELIGIBILITY OF THE CLIENTS AND NOT JUST THAN THE
03:40:49 GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.
03:40:52 ALSO FUNDS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS --
03:40:59 WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE FUNDS IS STRICTLY FOR THOSE WHO
03:41:03 ARE UNABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT, FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, NOT
03:41:08 MORTGAGES AT THIS TIME.
03:41:08 SO FUND CAN HELP THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING ANY FINANCIAL
03:41:12 HARDSHIP THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DUE TO COVID OR ANY ADDITIONAL
03:41:16 CONSEQUENCES THAT THEY SUFFERED AS WE WENT THROUGH THE
03:41:20 PANDEMIC.
03:41:20 WE ARE DOING 7500 PASS-THROUGH RENT AND 750 FOR PASS-DUE --
03:41:28 AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS APPROVED, THE FUND HAD TO BE
03:41:31 EXPENDED BY DECEMBER 31st OF THIS YEAR.
03:41:34 HOWEVER, WE DID GET SOME UPDATE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
03:41:38 TREASURY IS EXTENDING THE DEADLINE SO NOW WE WILL HAVE UNTIL
03:41:42 SEPTEMBER 30th, 2022 TO EXPEND ALL THE FUND.
03:41:46 >> SO THE CITY WAS A LITTLE OVER 12 MILLION.
03:41:54 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GOT ABOUT 32 MILLION.
03:41:56 THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS WITH THE COUNTY.
03:41:59 WE ARE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION, ONE
03:42:02 OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO HERE AT
03:42:05 THE CITY, IS RETAIN A MILLION DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN
03:42:08 CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENTS
03:42:11 WHO ALSO HAVE OTHER PASS-THROUGH ABILITIES.
03:42:15 SOME OF THEM YOU WILL STILL COME THROUGH BUT THE CITY OF
03:42:19 TAMPA WATER, WASTEWATER AND TRASH GO FORWARD AND HELP THOSE
03:42:23 WHO ARE UNABLE TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL, SO THE COUNTY WILL
03:42:27 NOT BE FOCUSING ON THAT PORTION.
03:42:29 SO COLLECTIVELY WE WILL BE PUTTING OUT OVER $40 MILLION IN
03:42:32 ASSISTANCE TO RESIDENTS AND LANDLORDS TO THE RENTAL
03:42:35 COMMUNITY.
03:42:39 THE FOCUS, WE OPENED THE APPLICATION ALREADY.
03:42:42 WE HAVE BEEN GETTING ABOUT 1,000 APPLICATIONS PER WEEK FOR
03:42:46 THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED.
03:42:49 WE HAVE HAD TO GIVE PRIORITIES WHO WERE AT 350% OF THE AREA
03:42:52 MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW.
03:42:53 AND SO THEY HAVE GOTTEN THE PRIORITIES OPEN TO THEM TWO
03:42:56 WEEKS PRIOR TO EVERYBODY ELSE BEING ABLE TO GET IN THE
03:42:59 SYSTEM.
03:43:03 ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES WAS THE PROGRAM THIS TIME AROUND AND
03:43:05 THE FUND WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY IS THAT IN THE
03:43:09 PREVIOUS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAD, IT WAS STRICTLY THE TENANT
03:43:13 THAT WAS APPLYING FOR IT, THIS TIME WE ARE ABLE TO OPEN IT
03:43:17 UP TO LANDLORD APPLICATIONS ALSO WHERE THE LANDLORD AND THE
03:43:20 TENANT CAN WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE FUND AND MAKE SURE THAT
03:43:23 THE LANDLORDS ARE MADE WHOLE IF THEY HAVE IN FACT PAST DUE
03:43:28 RENT.
03:43:28 WE ARE WORKING WITH ERNST & YOUNG WHO HAVE ABOUT 80
03:43:32 INDIVIDUALS MANNING A CALL CENTER ON ANY GIVEN DAY, CALLS
03:43:35 ARE GOING UP TO 300 CALLS PER DAY.
03:43:38 AS I SAID WE ARE GETTING ABOUT A THOUSAND APPLICATIONS IN
03:43:41 PER WEEK, AND OUR GOAL IS TO GET A THOUSAND IN AND GET A
03:43:45 THOUSAND OUT.
03:43:46 SO AS QUICKLY AS THEY COME IN, THEY ARE BEING APPROVED.
03:43:49 I PUT THE INFORMATION WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS THE PROGRAM AS
03:43:52 WELL AS CONTACT ANY OF THE REPRESENTATIVES AT THE CALL
03:43:56 CENTER, AND THEY ARE OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TAKING THOSE
03:43:59 CALLS FROM 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M.
03:44:05 WE STARTED THE EFFORT BACK IN MARCH, MID MARCH, WHERE WE
03:44:08 OPENED UP WITH THE LANDLORD FIRST, EXPLAINING WHAT THE
03:44:11 PROGRAM REALLY WAS.
03:44:12 YOU GET DID A FEW LANDLORD WORKSHOPS.
03:44:16 AGAIN, THE PREVIOUS PROGRAMS WHEN WE DID THEM.
03:44:19 LANDLORDS DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM, AND WE
03:44:22 WANTED TO AVOID TENANTS GETTING CHECKS AND NOT GOING TO THE
03:44:26 LANDLORDS, AND ULTIMATELY THEN US HAVING A HUGE FORECLOSURE
03:44:31 PROBLEM.
03:44:31 AND SO THE LANDLORDS ARE WORKING WITH US.
03:44:33 SO TODAY, WE HAVE ABOUT 130 APPLICATIONS ACTUALLY IN PROCESS
03:44:39 OUT OF 1,000, AND THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE
03:44:42 MISSING SOME DOCUMENTS AND JUST GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL TIME
03:44:45 TO COME BACK AND BRING WHAT'S MISSING.
03:44:48 WE HAVE OVER 500 LANDLORDS REGISTERED, THE PROPERTIES THAT
03:44:54 WE HAVE GOTTEN LOGGED, OVER A THOUSAND, AND THAT REALLY KIND
03:44:58 OF GOES TO ABOUT 42,000 UNITS SPECIFICALLY.
03:45:04 YOU CAN SEE THE CALL CENTER.
03:45:05 WE HAVE REALLY GOTTEN A BUNCH OF CALLS AND WE HAVE JUST
03:45:10 GIVEN A LITTLE -- WE ARE GETTING MORE TENANT CALL-INS TO
03:45:16 LANDLORDS.
03:45:17 WHEN THE LANDLORDS REGISTER AND THE TENANTS REGISTER, IT
03:45:20 DOES ALERT US TO KNOW THAT IT'S THE SAME ADDRESS THAT'S COME
03:45:24 IN TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS AND BENEFITS SO WE CAN
03:45:28 MAKE SURE THAT THE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT CORRECTLY SO THEY
03:45:33 CAN BE STRETCHED AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.
03:45:34 WE WILL RECEIVE PROGRAM REPORTS.
03:45:37 WE ARE GOING TO BE GETTING REPORTS EVERY TUESDAY AND EVERY
03:45:39 THURSDAY FROM THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS I HAVE ACCESS TO GO IN
03:45:42 AND LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD SO THAT WE CAN SEE RESIDENTS BEING
03:45:48 SERVED.
03:45:52 ANY QUESTIONS?
03:45:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
03:45:55 COMMENTS BY CITY COUNCIL?
03:45:59 HEARING -- GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:46:00 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE QUICK ONE.
03:46:02 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB COMMUNICATING TO
03:46:06 PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR IT.
03:46:08 IF THERE IS SOME OTHER MECHANISM, PLEASE COMMUNICATE TO THE
03:46:11 ACTIVIST GROUPS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS SO THAT THEY KNOW
03:46:14 THAT WE ARE DOING THIS AS WELL.
03:46:16 I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:46:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS.
03:46:21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:46:22 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO BE MOVE THIS?
03:46:24 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
03:46:25 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:46:28 ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS.
03:46:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:46:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:46:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:46:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:46:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:46:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:46:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:46:45 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:46:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:46:47 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS AND WE WILL BE
03:46:51 BACK.
03:46:55 [ CITY COUNCIL RECESS ]
03:47:06
03:59:28 (ROLL CALL)
03:59:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
03:59:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
03:59:45 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
03:59:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:59:48 ITEM NUMBER 42.
03:59:57 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM BRAD BAIRD.
03:59:59 WE MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING THAT WE DON'T NEED HIM
04:00:02 HERE.
04:00:03 CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE THIS?
04:00:06 MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:00:08 VIERA WITH THE SECOND.
04:00:10 ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:00:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.
04:00:12 JUST WANTED TO AGAIN GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO MR. BAIRD AND HIS
04:00:15 TEAM AND MR. BENNETT REGARD TO THE BBE PERCENTAGES, WHICH I
04:00:23 BELIEVE ARE ALSO VERY HIGH ON THIS PROJECT.
04:00:25 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
04:00:28 THAT MEANS THE ADMINISTRATION IS LISTENING.
04:00:30 WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
04:00:32 WHO WAS THE SECOND?
04:00:34 VIERA WAS THE SECOND.
04:00:35 ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:00:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:00:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
04:00:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:00:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
04:00:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:00:43 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:00:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:00:45 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
04:00:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 43, TAMPA FIRE
04:00:50 RESCUE.
04:00:52 AND WE HAVE A MEMO FROM CHIEF TRIPP.
04:00:56 CHIEF TRIPP IS DOWNSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR VIRTUALLY.
04:01:00 CHIEF TRIPP, THERE SHE IS.
04:01:02 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
04:01:17 YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
04:01:21 >>CHIEF TRIPP: INTERIM FIRE CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP. DID ANYONE
04:01:24 HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE MEMO?
04:01:27 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO JUST MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON
04:01:30 IT.
04:01:30 MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
04:01:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OF COURSE.
04:01:33 YES, SIR.
04:01:33 >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE IT.
04:01:34 FIRST CHIEF TRIPP, YOU AND I ARE ALWAYS IN COMMUNICATION,
04:01:39 BUT AGAIN I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR
04:01:42 HARD WORK AND FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND THANK YOU TO THE
04:01:46 CASTER ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING SUCH A STELLAR PARTNER ON
04:01:52 PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:01:52 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
04:01:54 YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY, AND YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE I
04:01:56 COMMUNICATED WITH YOU ON THIS, I WENT OUT WITH JOE GRECO TO
04:02:00 FIRE STATION 13 BECAUSE WE SAW THE STATISTICS THAT YOU
04:02:03 SHOWED US, WHICH ARE WONDERFUL.
04:02:05 IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S ABOUT A 15% IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS
04:02:08 REALLY GOOD FOR SUCH A SHORT TIME.
04:02:10 I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG ENGINE, RIGHT?
04:02:12 SO IT'S GOT TO MAKE AN IMPACT.
04:02:14 BUT I SPOKE OF JOE AND I SPOKE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OVER AT
04:02:19 STATION 13 TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE STATISTICS WERE RESULTING
04:02:23 IN ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THEM IN TERMS OF FEELING, AND
04:02:27 THEY SAID YES.
04:02:28 SO, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY GOT AN AIR CONDITIONER THERE WHICH
04:02:34 IS GOOD, BUT MORE HELP IS ON THE WAY.
04:02:36 I KNOW THAT'S YOUR MESSAGE AND WHAT NOT.
04:02:39 AND I NOTICE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, LIKE I TOLD YOU, THIS
04:02:43 IS A SINGLE -- THAT'S GOOD.
04:02:46 WE GOT ON FIRST BASE BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A HOME RUN FOR
04:02:50 NORTH TAMPA, WE NEED TO HAVE A HOME RUN FOR STATION 13.
04:02:52 AS NOW THE BIGGEST STATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, ONE OF THE
04:02:55 BUSIEST IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE OF 23 STATIONS,
04:02:58 BUT THAT REGION TAKES UP ABOUT ONE IN SEVEN CALLS, AS NOW,
04:03:01 IT HAS ABOUT 10,000 CALLS A YEAR, 25% MORE THAN THE SECOND
04:03:05 BUSIEST STATION.
04:03:07 AND WHEN SOMEBODY WOULD ASK ME WHAT'S A HOME RUN IN THIS
04:03:13 SITUATION WHEN IT COMES TO TAMPA FIRE AND PUBLIC SAFETY?
04:03:17 IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT THAT I PROPOSED A YEAR,
04:03:22 YEAR AND A HALF AGO OF WHAT I CALL A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
04:03:26 PLAN, WHICH YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN RESPONDING TO AND
04:03:31 ARTICULATING THE DEFICITS THAT WE HAVE WITH TAMPA FIRE.
04:03:37 CHIEF DUGAN HAS DONE A MARVELOUS JOB AS WELL OBVIOUSLY WITH
04:03:41 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN THAT REGARD.
04:03:43 BUT MY OVERALL SENTIMENT WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN
04:03:45 IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE.
04:03:49 I REMEMBER A YEAR AGO WHEN COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHO IS SUCH A
04:03:53 FIGHTER FOR HIS AREA, EAST TAMPA, COMES UP AND SAYS, LISTEN,
04:03:56 WE HAVE GOT A PROBLEM.
04:03:57 I THINK IT WAS 18 IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT.
04:04:00 AND GOT ANOTHER VEHICLE THERE.
04:04:02 GOT ANOTHER ONE FOR 13.
04:04:03 A YEAR LATER ANOTHER ONE FOR 13.
04:04:05 I WANT TO HAVE A VISION, OR A GRAND PLAN, IF YOU WILL, WHERE
04:04:10 WE KNOW WHERE ALL OF OUR DEFICITS ARE.
04:04:13 FOR ME, A HOME RUN, IF YOU WILL, AND BY THE WAY, WE ALL
04:04:17 AGREE, NOTHING SHORT OF A HOME RUN WAS NECESSARY HERE WITH
04:04:22 THE NEW STATION FOR NORTH TAMPA, AND I KNOW WE ARE ON OUR
04:04:25 WAY TO GETTING THAT, A STATION FOR CHANNELSIDE, RELIEF FOR
04:04:29 NEW TAMPA 33647.
04:04:31 I KNOW FOUR OUT OF THE SIX STATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
04:04:36 WITH THE LONGEST RESPONSE TIMES ARE AT 373647.
04:04:39 WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON EAST TAMPA AND I KNOW
04:04:42 CONTINUES TO NEED RELIEF AND WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT OUR FRIENDS
04:04:46 IN WEST TAMPA, HAVING A LOT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THERE,
04:04:49 ET CETERA, AND THE QUESTION IS GOING TO COME, WHAT ARE WE
04:04:51 GOING TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THOSE NEEDS?
04:04:53 SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THESE CHALLENGES
04:04:57 THROUGH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
04:04:59 YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN DOING THAT.
04:05:01 I ABSOLUTE YOU.
04:05:02 I ABSOLUTE THE CASTER ADMINISTRATION AGAIN.
04:05:05 ONE THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE
04:05:10 GETTING THESE FUNDS THROUGH THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN, I
04:05:13 THINK IT IS $81 MILLION, AND WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH THIS, MR.
04:05:16 CHAIR, IF I MAY, I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION, BECAUSE I WANTED
04:05:19 TO SPEAK IN THIS DISCUSSION ON AN INQUIRY ON THOSE FUNDS AND
04:05:24 WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN IMPART THESE FUNDS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:05:29 I KNOW THERE'S RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THEY CAN BE SPENT ON,
04:05:32 ET CETERA, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN HELP US REDUCE OUR
04:05:35 PUBLIC SAFETY DEFICITS THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE
04:05:39 ISSUES, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LACK OF EQUITY IN PUBLIC
04:05:43 SAFETY, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH TAMPA, UNIVERSITY AREA, A PLACE
04:05:48 WHERE POVERTY IS MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA
04:05:52 POVERTY RATE IS, MORE THAN DOUBLE, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS.
04:05:55 BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO ABSOLUTE YOU, BECAUSE THOSE
04:06:00 STATS DIDN'T GET MOVED BY THEMSELVES.
04:06:02 THEY GOT MOVED THROUGH YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION AND THE
04:06:04 PLAN THAT YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT THAT YOU PRESENT
04:06:07 BEFORE COUNCIL IS A WORKABLE PLAN.
04:06:09 I SUPPORT IT.
04:06:09 AND WE HAVE TO BUILD THE BRIDGE AND GET THERE IN ALL OF OUR
04:06:13 CITY.
04:06:13 I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, CONTINUE
04:06:17 TO ENCOURAGE KNEW THAT REGARD.
04:06:18 THANK YOU, MA'AM.
04:06:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE
04:06:21 THAT MOTION NOW OR WAIT?
04:06:24 COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
04:06:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, YOU KNOW, IT ALL STARTED WITH A
04:06:31 STATION ON 34th STREET, STATION 10.
04:06:35 I THINK THE SECOND OLDEST FIRE STATION IN THE CITY.
04:06:39 NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.
04:06:40 NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.
04:06:44 THE WAY WE GET SOME EXTRA HELP FOR OUR CITIZENS IN EAST
04:06:47 TAMPA WITH THE EXTRA CAR.
04:06:49 THAT WAS DESPERATELY NEEDED AFTER YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AT
04:06:53 16.
04:06:55 BUT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: I RECEIVED SEVERAL
04:06:59 E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE FIRE INDUSTRY AND TALK
04:07:03 ABOUT I GUESS THE WORD BAYS STARTED TO BE USED FOR FIRE
04:07:07 STATIONS AND THE NUMBER OF BAYS THAT CAN COVER AN AREA WITH
04:07:12 FOLKS THAT ARE HOUSED IN A STATION.
04:07:15 AND I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH, BECAUSE I LOOKED AT SOME OTHER
04:07:22 CITIES AND THEY HAVE MAYBE 8 TO 10 BAYS, AND THOSE BAYS ARE
04:07:26 COVERING DIFFERENT AREAS.
04:07:27 LOU AT STATION NUMBER 1, AND STATION NUMBER 1 USED TO HAVE
04:07:32 MORE MAYBE 10 TO 12 BAYS, AND COVERED AREAS, AND THAT MIGHT
04:07:37 BE ANOTHER IDEA WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND LOOK AT THAT FOR
04:07:41 AREAS THAT HAVE A MASTER NUMBER OF TRAPS, SQUADS STATIONED
04:07:47 THERE, AND YOU HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE FOR THE AREA.
04:07:51 SO I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING.
04:07:53 ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OTHER AREAS AS WELL, AND A PERSON THAT
04:07:58 WORKS ON THE MASTER WILL LOOK AT MAYBE SMALLER ENGINES AS
04:08:01 WELL TO HELP OUT.
04:08:02 SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS OUT THERE.
04:08:05 BUT ALSO LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WHEN I PUT
04:08:08 ON SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES I TALKED ABOUT, OUR
04:08:12 DEVELOPERS, IMPACT FEES, PAYING FOR FIRE STATION, AND THE
04:08:17 LACK OF, YOU KNOW -- NOT BLAMING ANYBODY, JUST THAT WE
04:08:22 DIDN'T DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH DEVELOPMENT
04:08:25 GOING ON, POSSIBLY PUT THOSE BAYS OR POSSIBLY SMALLER
04:08:28 ENGINES IN THOSE NEW DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP IN DIFFERENT
04:08:32 AREAS.
04:08:32 SO I THINK WITH THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU ARE CARRYING ON NOW,
04:08:36 AND THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING, BECAUSE I HEAR ALL
04:08:39 THE FIREFIGHTERS SAYING THINGS ARE CHANGING IN THE FIRE
04:08:42 DEPARTMENT.
04:08:44 A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
04:08:45 SO I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR EFFORTS.
04:08:48 AND CONTINUE TO WORK.
04:08:51 THANK YOU.
04:08:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
04:08:54 SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN KICKED AROUND BETWEEN MYSELF AND
04:08:57 A FEW OTHER PEOPLE.
04:09:01 THE MORE EMPHASIS RIGHT NOW ON VEHICLES AND STAFF.
04:09:07 THERE ARE PLACES SUCH AS THE WHAT USED TO BE AN OLD MALL ON
04:09:14 THE CORNER OF FOWLER AND NEBRASKA.
04:09:18 GETTING SOME SORT OF LEASE OPTION THERE, HAVING A VEHICLE,
04:09:23 WHETHER IT BE A TRUCK AND/OR AN AMBULANCE, AND HAVING A
04:09:28 SMALL TYPE BUILDING TO HOUSE THE STAFF, WITH FENCING GOING
04:09:33 AROUND TO SECURE, UNTIL WE CAN RAISE THE FUNDS FOR THE
04:09:36 ACTUAL BRICK AND MORTAR.
04:09:39 THAT WAY WE ALREADY HAVE THE VEHICLES, WE HAVE THE STAFFING,
04:09:43 THE MANPOWER, OR FEMALE POWER, AND THEN WE CAN PLAN OUT IN
04:09:48 THE FUTURE ON HOW TO BUILD THE ACTUAL BRICK AND MORTAR.
04:09:52 SO THAT IS ALL TO ANOTHER IDEA.
04:09:56 MS. TRIPP, I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR
04:09:59 AND HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE THE CHIEF TRIPP, NO MORE
04:10:03 INTERIM.
04:10:04 THANK YOU, CHIEF.
04:10:06 >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU.
04:10:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT,
04:10:09 TO SAYING CHIEF.
04:10:11 IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU
04:10:14 LIKE TO MAKE YOUR MOTION, SIR?
04:10:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:10:16 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:10:18 AGAIN, I WANTED TO AGAIN ABSOLUTE YOU.
04:10:22 I HAVE BEEN GOING TO FIRE STATION 13 FOR A WHILE, SINCE I
04:10:26 WAS ELECTED, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A LACK OF HOPE THERE.
04:10:33 BUT THERE'S HOPE NOW.
04:10:34 WHEN YOU TALK TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THERE, THERE'S HOPE.
04:10:37 SOMEBODY IS LISTENING TO THEM.
04:10:38 NOT JUST ME.
04:10:39 IT'S ALL OF US.
04:10:40 IT'S YOU.
04:10:41 THE MAYOR.
04:10:42 EVERYBODY LISTENING TO THEM.
04:10:44 AND THEY FEEL LIKE THINGS ARE CHANGING.
04:10:47 WE CAN'T LET THEM DOWN.
04:10:49 IF WE DON'T GET A NEW STATION THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO GET A
04:10:52 HUNGER STRIKE.
04:10:53 I CAN STAND TO LOSE WE THINK, TRUST ME, BUT I AM GOING DO
04:10:58 IT.
04:10:58 BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
04:11:02 YOU KNOW I AM A BIG FAN OF YOURS, AND I'LL SAY THAT.
04:11:05 AND ALSO THANK CHIEF DUGAN AS WELL FOR HIS SUPPORT OF THIS
04:11:09 AND HIS WORKING WITH US, AND PUTTING FORTH THE TPD PLAN
04:11:13 BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SO PIVOTAL.
04:11:16 BULL I WANT TO MOTION -- AND WE MAY -- I MOTION FOR THIS ON
04:11:20 APRIL 15th.
04:11:21 WE NIGH NEED TO MUSH IT BACK BUT I AM DOING IT JUST TO GET A
04:11:25 DATE.
04:11:27 FOR STAFF TO REPORT ON WHETHER OR NOT FUNDING FROM THE
04:11:29 AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT CAN BE UTILIZED TO FUND IN PART
04:11:32 PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AS PRESENTLY SPECIFIED.
04:11:36 THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OF 2021 IS A $1.9 TRILLION
04:11:41 ECONOMIC STIMULUS PASSED BY THE 117th CONGRESS AND
04:11:44 SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN ON MARCH 11th OF
04:11:48 2021.
04:11:48 THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROVISIONS THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS
04:11:50 PUBLIC HEALTH.
04:11:51 AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIT FOR CONSIDERATION.
04:11:54 WE ARE LOOKING AT FUNDING MECHANISMS.
04:11:56 FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR EMERGENT -- THIS IS STUFF WE ARE
04:12:03 RUNNING BEHIND ON.
04:12:04 AGAIN MY MESSAGE AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN NEVER LET
04:12:07 SOMETHING LIKE THIS EVER HAPPEN AGAIN, BECAUSE WE CAN'T LET
04:12:10 THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.
04:12:12 SO FOR CONSIDERATION I BELIEVE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GETTING
04:12:16 ABOUT 80, $81 MILLION, SO THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS MORE TIME
04:12:21 FOR THAT I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUSH IT BACK A WEAK, A
04:12:24 MONTH, WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE STILL
04:12:28 WAITING TO LEARN WHAT IF ANY RESTRICTIONS THERE ARE
04:12:31 PROSPECTIVELY.
04:12:32 SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN TENTATIVELY AND WE CAN MOVE
04:12:36 IT IF NEED BE.
04:12:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
04:12:40 VIERA.
04:12:40 >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS FOR THE --
04:12:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS FOR APRIL 15th?
04:12:44 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, IF I MAY.
04:12:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND IF IT NEED TO BE CONTINUED FROM
04:12:48 THEN WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
04:12:49 APRIL 15th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
04:12:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:12:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER VIERA WITH THE MOTION.
04:12:54 COUNCILMEMBER CITRO WITH THE SECOND.
04:12:56 ALL RIGHT.
04:12:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:12:58 ANY OPPOSED?
04:13:00 VERY GOOD.
04:13:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:13:02 CHIEF TRIPP, WE APPRECIATE YOU.
04:13:07 >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU.
04:13:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE BEST PART OF THE AGENDA.
04:13:11 ITEM NUMBER 46.
04:13:12 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
04:13:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS THIS, CAROLE POST?
04:13:29 >>CAROLE POST: CAROLE POST, YES.
04:13:31 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
04:13:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S LIKE A SAY ANSWER.
04:13:36 WE CAN'T SEE YOU BUT WE HEAR YOU.
04:13:38 GO AHEAD.
04:13:38 >> WE ARE NOT USING A PowerPoint PRESENTATION TODAY.
04:13:42 YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A ROOM FULL OF FOLKS.
04:13:44 I'M CAROLE POST, THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND
04:13:46 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
04:13:48 AND WE ARE REPORTING HERE ON ITEM 46.
04:13:51 I WANTED TO PROVIDE A FEW MOMENTS OF BACKGROUND TO CATCH UP
04:13:57 FROM THE JOURNEY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ON COLLECTIVELY WITH THIS
04:14:01 MATTER, AND THEN DISCUSS THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF
04:14:08 COUNCIL AT THE MOMENT.
04:14:09 AS YOU KNOW AND CAN RECALL, THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU
04:14:12 ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE CULMINATION OF A MOTION THAT WAS
04:14:16 ORIGINATED BY CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 4th OF 2020, AND
04:14:21 WAS SUBSEQUENTLY MODIFIED ON FEBRUARY 3rd AND THEN AGAIN
04:14:24 ON FEBRUARY 11th.
04:14:27 CITY STAFF HAS PREPARED A RESOLUTION IN RESPONSE TO THOSE
04:14:32 EVOLVING MOTIONS AND SUBMITTED IT WITH SUPPORTING
04:14:36 DOCUMENTATION AND A PRESENTATION FOR CONSIDERATION ON MARCH
04:14:39 18th.
04:14:41 AS YOU KNOW, AT THE MARCH 18th MEETING THE MATTER WAS
04:14:44 CONTINUED BY COUNCIL TO TODAY'S MEETING.
04:14:48 DURING THAT CONTINUANCE PERIOD, MAYOR CASTOR ACTUALLY
04:14:51 CONVENED A LISTENING SESSION.
04:14:54 YOU HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS THIS MORNING THAT REFERRED TO
04:14:56 IT.
04:15:00 WE CONVENED THAT SESSION WITH COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD
04:15:03 GROUPS, ALSO INVITED DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS, REPRESENTATIVE
04:15:07 ATTORNEYS.
04:15:08 WE ALSO HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION
04:15:10 PRESENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WERE ALSO INVITED, AND WE
04:15:15 HAD CITY STAFF FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT
04:15:20 AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
04:15:21 WE ALSO HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY
04:15:24 AND OUR CITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM WAS THERE RELATIVE FOR
04:15:29 THE EVACUATION CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.
04:15:31 WE WERE VERY INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO CAST A VERY LARGE TENT,
04:15:37 IF YOU WILL, TO PROVIDE EVERYONE A VOICE, AT THE SAME TIME,
04:15:39 AT THE SAME TABLE, AND TO ENABLE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER
04:15:42 UNDERSTANDING AND CONVERSATION AMONGST THE PARTIES.
04:15:46 AS YOU HEARD, THAT MEETING WAS HELD ON FRIDAY, MARCH
04:15:48 26th.
04:15:49 IT WAS A VERY ROBUST AND I THINK PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION.
04:15:54 LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE ROOM HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS
04:15:57 THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
04:16:00 CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS BUT
04:16:02 ALSO THE DEVELOPERS, THE LAND USE ATTORNEYS THAT WERE
04:16:04 PRESENT, CITY STAFF, MAYOR CASTOR WAS THERE, CHIEF OF STAFF
04:16:07 BENNETT WAS THERE, CITY ATTORNEY WAS THERE AND EVERYONE HAD
04:16:11 AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
04:16:13 ALTHOUGH IT'S HARD TO GET THAT MANY DIFFERENT VOICES TO
04:16:15 AGREE TO ANY ONE THING, WE WERE SURPRISED TO HEAR THERE WAS
04:16:20 AGREEMENT AROUND A FUNDAMENTAL NOTION WHICH WAS THAT NO ONE
04:16:26 REALLY WANTED A MORATORIUM PER SE.
04:16:28 THE COMMUNITY LEADERS PRESENT SPECIFICALLY WERE STATING THAT
04:16:32 THEY DID NOT WANT TO STOP GROWTH PER SE, BUT THEY WANTED
04:16:36 SMART GROWTH.
04:16:38 IN FACT THEY SAID THEY DON'T EVEN WANT NECESSARILY TO STOP
04:16:41 CHANGE.
04:16:41 THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS THE NATURE OF A COMMUNITY SUCH
04:16:45 AS OURS, BUT THEY WANT SMART CHANGE.
04:16:49 I THINK EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AGREED
04:16:51 WITH THAT.
04:16:52 MOST IMPORTANTLY WAS THEY WANTED ACTION.
04:16:56 I THINK THE DISCUSSION AROUND HOW THERE HAVE BEEN MANY
04:16:59 STUDIES DONE OVER TIME, THERE ARE MORE STUDIES PLANNED, BUT
04:17:03 THE GROUP REALLY EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO START TO GET THINGS
04:17:06 DONE, AND WE CERTAINLY ECHO THAT.
04:17:09 AS WE LISTENED, I THINK IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THE MORATORIUM
04:17:13 WAS A TEMPORARY STOP GAP, OR COULD HAVE BEEN A TEMPORARY
04:17:17 STOP GAP, AND IT WASN'T REALLY CLEAR WHAT ACTION WE WOULD
04:17:22 GET AT THE END OF THAT.
04:17:24 AND THIS WAS ECHOED BY THE DEVELOPERS AND THE LAND USE
04:17:27 ATTORNEYS THAT WERE PRESENT THERE.
04:17:28 AND GIVEN ALL THAT, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE DISCUSSION, WE
04:17:32 PRESENTED AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH THAT WOULD RESULT IN A
04:17:36 MORE PERMANENT ACTION.
04:17:38 SO IT TAKES US IN A DIRECTION THAT WE THOUGHT EVERYONE
04:17:40 AROUND THE TABLE BELIEVED WAS REASONABLE.
04:17:44 THE ALTERNATE APPROACH WOULD BE SIMPLY TO GO AHEAD AND
04:17:47 INITIATE A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WOULD
04:17:51 DIRECTLY IMPACT DENSITY MAXIMUMS IN THREE LAND USE
04:17:56 CATEGORIES ACROSS THE CITY FOR SINGLE USE DEVELOPMENTS ONLY.
04:18:01 AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE DETAIL OF THAT.
04:18:05 IN FACT, IN A MOMENT, I WILL ACTUALLY ASK ABBYE FEELEY TO
04:18:09 TALK ABOUT THAT AND GIVE SOME EXAMPLES SO WE CAN REALLY JUST
04:18:11 UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE HOW THE FAR HAS BEEN USED IN
04:18:18 SINGLE USE DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE CITY, NOT JUST SOUTH OF
04:18:22 GANDY.
04:18:23 BUT FIRST I JUST WANT TO RECALL AGAIN SORT OF THE CONTEXT OF
04:18:28 HOW WE HAVE GOTTEN HERE.
04:18:29 IF YOU RECALL, LEADING TO US THAT MARCH 18th RESOLUTION,
04:18:34 IT HAD TWO ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS.
04:18:37 ONE WAS TO ADDRESS THE USE OF THE F.A.R. AND THE OTHER WAS
04:18:40 ADDRESSING THE MIXED USE REQUIREMENT.
04:18:43 WE BELIEVE BOTH OF THESE ASPECTS OF CITY PLANNING ONE AND
04:18:48 ASSESSMENT, AS OUR CITY HAS EVOLVED AND GROWN, AND WE
04:18:52 PRESENTED IN FACT THESE AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PROPOSALS BACK
04:18:56 IN OCTOBER AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP, AND AGAIN IN
04:18:59 DECEMBER THERE WAS A WORK PLAN PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION.
04:19:03 BUT INITIATING A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS F.A.R. COULD
04:19:07 BE A FIRST STEP IN THAT PROCESS, AND IF YOU RECALL, THE USE
04:19:12 OF THE F.A.R. IN SINGLE-USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS RESULTED
04:19:18 IN SOME PROJECTS, NOT ALL BUT SOME PROJECTS BUILDING MORE
04:19:22 THAN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS, OTHERWISE CONTEMPLATED IN
04:19:26 THE COMP PLAN.
04:19:27 AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IN DEFENSE.
04:19:29 DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FOR A MOMENT, THOSE THAT USE THAT
04:19:33 OPTION WERE DOING WHAT THE COMP PLAN PROVIDED FOR.
04:19:37 AT THIS TIME, THOUGH, AND AS ILLUSTRATED IN OUR OCTOBER
04:19:41 WORKSHOP, THE CITY HAS GROWN, IT'S HE INVOLVED TREMENDOUSLY,
04:19:44 AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE NEED FOR THAT F.A.R. OPTION IN
04:19:47 CERTAIN AREAS AND IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES MAY IN A LONGER
04:19:51 EXIST.
04:19:55 THE SECOND PART OF THAT MARCH 18th RESOLUTION IS THE
04:19:59 FACT THAT TALLAHASSEE CURRENTLY NO MINIMUM STANDARD FOR
04:20:01 NONRESIDENTIAL USE IN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
04:20:04 ALL THAT ISSUE HASN'T BEEN AS PROBLEMATIC AS WE THINK F.A.R.
04:20:09 HAS BECOME, IT'S STILL AN AREA THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS IN A
04:20:12 HOLISTIC AND MORE STRATEGIC WAY.
04:20:14 SO IN THOSE CASES RATHER THAN JUST PUSHING A PAUSE BUTTON
04:20:19 FOR NINE MONTHS AND CONTINUING TO STUDY AND TO EVALUATE, WE
04:20:22 PROPOSE TAKING ACTION AND DOING IT IN A STEP-BY-STEP MANNER.
04:20:27 THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO INITIATE THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
04:20:31 THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE F.A.R. OPTION, AGAIN FOR SINGLE-USE
04:20:35 DEVELOPMENT, IN THREE SETS OF LAND USE CATEGORIES.
04:20:40 AT ALL TIMES F.A.R. WOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR MIXED USE
04:20:43 PROJECTS.
04:20:44 I WANT TO STRONGLY EMPHASIS THAT.
04:20:46 F.A.R. WOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE IN ITS CURRENT STANCE FOR
04:20:50 MIXED USE PROJECTS.
04:20:51 AND IT WOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR ALL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS
04:20:55 OTHER THAN THE THREE IDENTIFIED IN THE PROPOSAL.
04:21:00 IN ADDITION, DURING THE AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE WOULD BE FINE
04:21:04 TUNING AND LIKELY DISCUSSING THE REFINEMENTS, MANY OF WHICH
04:21:09 WERE SUGGESTED THIS MORNING BY VARIOUS SPEAKERS TO ENSURE
04:21:13 THAT WE CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE DENSITY WHERE WE KNOW WE DO
04:21:17 WANT IT, WHERE WE LIKELY NEED IT, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, OR
04:21:23 WHERE IT SUPPORTS OTHER STRATEGIC PURPOSES THAT WE ARE
04:21:26 SEEKING SUCH AS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
04:21:28 SO WE DO SEE A VALUE IN THE F.A.R. ELEMENT.
04:21:33 WE JUST FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO GET MANAGED AT THIS POINT
04:21:36 MOVING FORWARD.
04:21:38 AND IT'S THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT'S THE BEST
04:21:42 METHOD TO DO THAT.
04:21:43 IT ENABLES WIDE REACHING INPUTS, FEEDBACK AND ADJUSTMENT
04:21:47 ALONG THE WAY BEFORE IT ULTIMATELY COMES BACK TO YOU FOR
04:21:51 FINAL PRESENTATION.
04:21:53 SO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE PROPOSAL TODAY WOULD HAVE NO
04:21:57 EFFECT ON THE USE OF F.A.R. IN OTHER LAND USE CATEGORIES
04:22:01 WHERE IT'S APPLICABLE, OR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT
04:22:04 PROPOSALS THAT COULD COME FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD.
04:22:10 MORE OVER, WE ARE NOT SEEKING ANY ACTION BY THE COUNCIL
04:22:13 TODAY REGARDING THAT MIXED USE MINIMUM USE BECAUSE WE REALLY
04:22:17 DON'T KNOW YET WHAT WE THINK THE BEST APPROACH TO THAT COULD
04:22:20 BE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A HASTY DECISION THAT COULD
04:22:26 HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
04:22:28 CURRENTLY THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS DISCRETION REGARDING THE
04:22:30 ALLOCATION OF MIXES IN A MIXED USE PROJECT.
04:22:34 IT WOULD BE OUR PLAN TO WORK TOWARDS PROPOSING A STANDARD
04:22:38 THAT CAN OFFER GREATER PREDICTABILITY TO ALL STAKEHOLDERS.
04:22:42 BUT AGAIN THAT WOULD BE A MORE THOROUGH -- WITH A HOST OF
04:22:47 THE INPUTS AND FEEDBACK SO THAT THAT WOULD UP WITH THE RIGHT
04:22:50 PLAN THAT MEETS AS MANY NEEDS AS POSSIBLE.
04:22:54 SO TODAY'S APPROACH FOCUSES JUST ON THE FIRST STEP THAT LIES
04:22:57 AHEAD, AND THAT WOULD BE TO COMMENCE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR
04:23:01 F.A.R., AND PROVIDE THAT OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS TO
04:23:05 MOVE FORWARD.
04:23:06 THAT WILL ALSO ALIGN WITH A HOST OF OTHER CITY PLANNING
04:23:10 EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERWAY.
04:23:15 WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE BEFORE.
04:23:18 WE KNOW WE WANT TO EXPLORE AMENDING THE DENSITY BONUS
04:23:22 PROVISION.
04:23:23 THAT DOES HAS NOT NECESSARILY SERVED OUR PURPOSES AS WELL AS
04:23:27 EXPECTED.
04:23:27 AND AN OVERALL COMP PLAN UPDATE IN CONCERT WITH OUR MOBILITY
04:23:31 TEAM MOVES PROJECT WHICH HAS ALREADY STARTED.
04:23:35 WE HAVE A SEA LEVEL RISE GRANT FUNDED STUDY THAT'S ABOUT TO
04:23:40 INITIATE AND A HOST OF OTHER INITIATIVES FRANKLY MANY OF
04:23:43 WHICH HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT STALLED AS WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS
04:23:46 MATTER FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
04:23:48 SO WE ARE EAGER TO GET BACK TO THAT FULL ROBUST PROGRAM.
04:23:52 SO WITH THAT BACKGROUND, I WANT TO TURN TO ABBEY FOR A
04:23:56 MOMENT AND LET HER PROVIDE SOME DETAIL ABOUT THE SPECIFIC
04:24:00 LANGUAGE OF WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY, SORT OF WHAT IT IS
04:24:03 AND WHAT IT IS NOT, AND THEREAFTER I WOULD ASK EITHER CATE
04:24:09 OR TINA, WHOEVER WANTS TO WALK US THROUGH THE SUGGESTED
04:24:11 PROCESS, TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY.
04:24:13 AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THERE
04:24:16 IS A MODIFIED RESOLUTION LITERALLY HOT OFF THE PRESS THAT'S
04:24:22 BEEN PRESENTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
04:24:24 THE REVISED RESOLUTION SIMPLY SEPARATES THE TWO COMPONENTS
04:24:28 THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED ON MARCH 18th AND
04:24:35 EXTENDS THE -- I'M SORRY, THE RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN
04:24:39 SUBMITTED EARLIER THIS WEEK AS A WALK-ON, AND IT DOES SO AT
04:24:45 THE FOLLOWING:
04:24:47 WHAT WE ARE NOW PROPOSING LITERALLY THAT WAS PRESENTED
04:24:50 FOLLOWING OUR LUNCH BREAK WAS THAT WE PUSH FORWARD TODAY
04:24:54 WITH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
04:24:57 NOTHING HAS CHANGED ABOUT OUR COMMITMENT OUT OF THE FRIDAY
04:25:00 LISTENING SESSION TO PUSH FORWARD WITH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
04:25:05 TO MODIFY USE OF THE F.A.R. IN THOSE THREE DESIGNATED
04:25:09 SINGLE-USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
04:25:13 THE CHANGE THIS AFTERNOON WOULD ENTAIL US PUSHING OUT THE
04:25:17 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE ASPECT OF THE RESOLUTION FOR
04:25:24 SIXTY DAYS, AND THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT ANYONE THAT WOULD BE
04:25:27 IMPACTED BY IT WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT NOTICE.
04:25:30 AND THE RATIONALE THERE IS THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT CAME OUT
04:25:34 OF OUR -- THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN
04:25:39 PUBLISHED WAS FOCUSED ON THE SOUTH OF GANDY GEOGRAPHIC AREA.
04:25:44 THE NEW RESOLUTION THAT CAME OUT OF THE LISTENING SESSION
04:25:48 IMPACTS A CITY-WIDE FOOTPRINT.
04:25:50 AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT HAS NOT HAD SUFFICIENT NOTICE
04:25:55 CITY-WIDE.
04:25:56 AND THAT SIXTY-DAY PERIOD REDUCES SOME OF THE VULNERABILITY
04:26:01 AND POTENTIAL CHALLENGES THAT COULD BE FACED AS WELL AS
04:26:03 SIMPLY DOES THE RIGHT THING TO ENSURE THAT ANY STAKEHOLDER
04:26:08 HAS NOTICE OF WHAT WE ARE PROCEEDING REQUEST TODAY.
04:26:11 SO I'LL PAUSE ON THAT THOUGHT.
04:26:13 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABBYE FEELEY TO JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE
04:26:17 BIT ON THE WORKINGS OF THE F.A.R., HOW IT'S BEEN USED, TO
04:26:21 EMPHASIZE THE POINT THERE, AND THEN WE'LL TALK THROUGH SOME
04:26:25 OF THE PROCEDURAL STUFF.
04:26:25 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, CAROL.
04:26:28 GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
04:26:30 ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
04:26:34 AS WE HAVE CONTINUED OUR DIALOGUE AND OUR RESEARCH ON THIS
04:26:39 MATTER, AND LOOKING AT THE F.A.R. THAT HAS BEEN UTILIZED IN
04:26:46 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, THE UMU 60 AND THE CC-35, I
04:26:55 ACTUALLY SPENT LAST EVENING PULLING ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL
04:27:00 MULTIFAMILY BOTH MIX USES, SINGLE USE LAND DEVELOPMENTS THAT
04:27:04 CAME BEFORE YOU FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, TO REALLY TAKE A
04:27:09 DIVE, INITIAL DIVES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WERE THESE PROJECTS?
04:27:16 WHAT WAS RESULTING?
04:27:17 AND IN SOME CASES, THE SINGLE USE F.A.R.S, YOU WERE
04:27:23 RESULTING IN DOUBLE THE DENSITY OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, IN
04:27:26 SOME CASES TRIPLE THE DENSITY OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, AND
04:27:30 EVEN BEYOND THAT.
04:27:32 THERE WAS ONE PD THAT IN A CMU-35 THAT USED F.A.R. AND
04:27:37 RESULTED IN 137 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE.
04:27:42 WHICH IS BEYOND EVEN A REGIONAL MIXED USE ALLOWANCE.
04:27:45 SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, AND IT'S NOT ON THE THAT THESE
04:27:50 PROJECTS WERE OCCURRING SOUTH OF GANDY.
04:27:52 THESE PROJECTS WERE OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHICH IS
04:27:56 NOT THE INTENTION OF UTILIZING THE F.A.R. IN THE WAY THAT IT
04:28:02 HAS BEEN USED.
04:28:03 SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO LIMIT THE UTILIZATION OF F.A.R. FOR
04:28:10 SINGLE-USE, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
04:28:13 SO WE KNOW THAT AS APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND THAT IS WHAT
04:28:20 THIS WOULD BE DOING.
04:28:22 SO YOU WOULD STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE F.A.R. IN ANY
04:28:29 DISTRICT OR ANY OF OUR MIXED USE DISTRICTS TO ACHIEVE A
04:28:31 MIXED USE PROJECT, AND THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A VERTICALLY
04:28:36 INTEGRATED MIXED USE BUILDING.
04:28:38 AS A MIXED USE PROJECT.
04:28:40 SO IT COULD BE A MULTIPLE BUILDING THAT CREATES ONE PROJECT,
04:28:46 AND THAT WOULD MEET THAT INTENT OF PROVIDING MIXED USE IN
04:28:51 THESE CATEGORIES.
04:28:54 I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT, AND ALSO REITERATE THAT THAT
04:29:00 WOULD -- F.A.R. WOULD ALSO REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR
04:29:05 NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, WHICH IT WAS INTENDED FOR.
04:29:10 THE RMU 100 WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS TODAY AS THE RMU 100
04:29:17 REALLY OCCURS AS A REGIONAL HEIGHT OF LAND USE, AN ATTRACTER
04:29:24 TYPE OF LAND USE, IN MORE DENSE AREAS, RMU 100 IN THE
04:29:28 CHANNEL DISTRICT.
04:29:29 IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
04:29:32 DISTRICT LAND USE.
04:29:33 SO THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT,
04:29:38 WHERE IMMEDIATE PERIPHERY OR THE CPD PERIPHERY IN EFFECT.
04:29:44 SO ALL OF THOSE TOOLS WOULD REMAIN IN EFFECT TO ASSIST
04:29:48 DIRECTING GROWTH WHERE THOSE AREAS THAT WE ANTICIPATE GROWTH
04:29:51 THIS WOULD JUST ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT SOME
04:29:54 UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING
04:30:00 AS WE DO THAT IN A MEANINGFUL AND INTENTIONAL MANNER
04:30:03 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
04:30:16 >> WE WILL WALK THROUGH THIS PROCEDURAL STEPS.
04:30:19 >> INDEPENDENT KIND OF CLOSE WITH WHAT MRS. POST MENTIONED
04:30:22 EARLIER WHICH IS THE PROPOSAL THAT'S HOT OFF THE PRESS.
04:30:26 I WILL JUST GO OVER IT QUICKLY.
04:30:30 AGAIN WE ARE MAKING THIS THIRD, IF YOU WILL, ALTERNATIVE TO
04:30:33 ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER DURING PUBLIC
04:30:36 COMMENT REGARDING THE INSUFFICIENCY OF THE NOTICE AND THE
04:30:42 RESPECT THAT THIS IS NOW A PROPOSAL THAT'S CITY-WIDE.
04:30:47 EARLIER IT WAS JUST A SOUTH OF GANDY APPLICATION.
04:30:49 SO A LOT OF CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED SAYING THEY HAVE
04:30:52 INSUFFICIENT NOTICE GIVEN THAT THIS IS NOW A CITY-WIDE
04:30:56 PROPOSAL.
04:30:57 AND I KNOW BOTH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNCIL WANT TO
04:31:01 BE EQUITABLE, THEY WANT TO BALANCE THE INTERESTS OF ALL THE
04:31:05 PARTIES.
04:31:05 I KNOW OFTEN YOU WANT US TO MEET WITH BOTH SIDES, TO COME
04:31:09 BACK AND HAVE A SOLUTION THAT EVERYONE AGREES TO.
04:31:12 WE REALLY TRADE OUR BEST TO BE DON THAT.
04:31:15 THAT'S JUST NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS LAST
04:31:17 PROPOSAL WILL GET YOU CLOSE TO THAT AS YOU CAN GET.
04:31:21 AND AS CAROL MENTIONED, IT ESSENTIALLY DIVIDES THE CURRENT
04:31:25 PROPOSAL PROCESS INTO TWO STEPS.
04:31:27 THE FIRST STEP RELATES TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE IN
04:31:31 FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
04:31:33 WE REVISED THAT SLIGHTLY.
04:31:36 ANDREA ZELMAN HAS A COPY OF IT.
04:31:39 WHAT WE ASK THAT YOU DO IS MOVE FORWARD DAP WITH THAT
04:31:41 REVISED RESOLUTION, STATING COUNCIL'S INTENT TO ADOPT THE
04:31:45 PROPOSED COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, AND DIRECT THE STAFF TO FILE
04:31:49 THAT COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
04:31:51 AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE MADE TO THE RESOLUTION WAS THE
04:31:54 LEADING SECTION 2 OF THAT RESOLUTION, WHICH IS THE SOURCE OF
04:31:59 THE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU HEARD THIS MORNING FROM THE LAND USE
04:32:02 F.A.R., AND THAT SECTION PROHIBITS THE REZONING APPLICATIONS
04:32:06 THAT UTILIZE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE USE, THE
04:32:12 SINGLE-USE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS IN THE THREE COMP PLAN
04:32:16 CATEGORIES.
04:32:17 SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINKS CHANGES WE MADE TO THE
04:32:20 RESOLUTION.
04:32:21 AND THE SECOND STEP IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE RELATED TO THE
04:32:25 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, AND WHAT WE WOULD ASK YOU ALSO
04:32:28 TO DO IS TO DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK ON
04:32:31 APRIL 15th WITH THE DOCUMENTATION NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT
04:32:36 THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE STARTING JUNE 1 OF 2021, AND
04:32:41 THAT WOULD GIVE ANYONE WHO IS CURRENTLY MID PROCESS IN
04:32:46 PREPARING THE REZONING APPLICATION THAT PERHAPS HAS HIRED
04:32:49 ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS AND ATTORNEYS TO PREPARE THAT
04:32:52 APPLICATION, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE MONTHS TO PREPARE AN
04:32:55 APPLICATION.
04:32:57 YOU DON'T PUT IT TOGETHER OVERNIGHT.
04:33:00 BELIEVE ME, I TRIED AND IT DOESN'T WORK.
04:33:02 IT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT AND COORDINATION OF A LOT OF
04:33:04 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS TO ASSEMBLE A REZONING APPLICATION.
04:33:09 SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS IT WAS REZONING APPLICATIONS
04:33:15 BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 1 BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THOSE THAT HAVE
04:33:18 INVESTED MONEY ALREADY IN PREPARING THEIR APPLICATION TO
04:33:22 COMPLETE IT.
04:33:23 BUT JUNE 1 WE WOULD CLOSE THAT DOOR, AND THEN DURING THE
04:33:28 PENDENCY OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, WHICH AS YOU
04:33:31 ALL KNOW TAKES ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX MONTHS OR EVEN
04:33:35 LONGER, NO ONE ELSE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT APPLICATION
04:33:39 UTILIZING THE F.A.R. FOR THE SINGLE USE MULTIFAMILY
04:33:42 PROJECTS.
04:33:43 SO WE THINK THAT'S ABOUT AS CLOSE AS A FAIR BALANCE THAT WE
04:33:47 COULD GET BETWEEN THE TWO SIDES.
04:33:49 IT GETS THE SOUTH OF GANDY RESIDENTS AND ANYONE ELSE THE
04:33:53 ASSURANCE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO
04:33:56 ELIMINATE USE OF THE F.A.R. CALCULATION, AND THE SINGLE USE
04:34:01 PROJECTS.
04:34:04 AND IT ALSO GIVES THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AMPLE TIME TO
04:34:09 PREPARE FOR THIS PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE TO COME INTO
04:34:13 EFFECT.
04:34:14 IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.
04:34:16 AND TO THAT END, TOO, I WANT TO MENTION THAT I KNOW A LOT OF
04:34:19 THE DEVELOPERS MENTIONED, THEIR ATTORNEYS MENTIONED ABOUT
04:34:23 PEOPLE RELYING UPON THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE COMP PLAN.
04:34:27 ALTHOUGH THAT MAY IF CASE, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF
04:34:30 ENTITLEMENT AND RELATES TO YOUR PROPERTY, BUT YOU ARE NOT
04:34:35 ENTITLED TO HAVE THE LAW STAY AS IT IS WHEN YOU FIRST
04:34:39 PURCHASED IT, PURCHASED YOUR PROPERTY.
04:34:41 SO YOU CAN ALWAYS BE ASSURED THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE
04:34:44 SAME ZONING OR THE SAME COMP PLAN CATEGORY OR THE SAME
04:34:47 REQUIREMENTS OR REGULATIONS IN THE ZONING CODE OR IN THE
04:34:50 COMP PLAN.
04:34:51 SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT COUNCIL IS FREE TO REGULATE, FREE TO
04:34:57 CHANGE, AND WE DON'T BELIEVE ESTOPPEL WOULD BE A VALID
04:35:03 ARGUMENT AGAINST WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING TO DO.
04:35:04 SO I WILL END WITH THAT.
04:35:05 >>CAROLE POST: WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS NOW FROM
04:35:13 COUNCIL.
04:35:13 THANK YOU.
04:35:14 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:35:18 >>BILL CARLSON: SEVERAL OF US WERE WORKING FOR MORE THAN A
04:35:21 YEAR WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS
04:35:23 WORKING ON THIS AND WE HAVE SEEN RENEWED ACTIVISM IN THE
04:35:26 COMMUNITY.
04:35:27 NOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS FEEL LIKE WE ARE LISTENING AND
04:35:32 CITY COUNCIL IS LISTENING AND THE MAYOR IS LISTENING
04:35:34 I.WANTED TO THANK ALL, STAFF NOT ONLY TO THIS MEETING LAST
04:35:37 FRIDAY BUT THEY HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL MEETINGS, AND I HEARD
04:35:41 GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THOSE MEETINGS,
04:35:44 ESPECIALLY THE LAST ONE WHICH OF COURSE THE MAYOR WENT TO
04:35:47 WHICH MAKES EVERYBODY EVEN MORE HAPPY.
04:35:49 SO THANKS TO HER FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR
04:35:52 LISTENING TO IT.
04:35:53 THIS PROCESS IS DIFFICULT, AS YOU SAID, BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU
04:35:56 TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE,
04:36:03 BOTH SIDES ARE A LITTLE UNHAPPY, OR SOMEONE UNHAPPY, THEN
04:36:07 YOU FOUND SOMETHING KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE.
04:36:10 WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I SPENT
04:36:13 PROBABLY 50% OF MY OVERALL TIME IN THE LAST MONTH OR TWO
04:36:16 JUST ON THIS, AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS COME UP WITH
04:36:20 AN ALTERNATIVE TORE A MORATORIUM, AND THE LANGUAGE AS I
04:36:23 UNDERSTAND IT, TALKED TO MRS. GRIMES THIS MORNING ABOUT IT,
04:36:25 BUT THAT LANGUAGE THANK THEY EDITED OUT WAS SOMEHOW A HOLD
04:36:31 COVER OR COPY FROM THAT MORATORIUM LANGUAGE AND MS. GRIMES,
04:36:35 AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS PROCESS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING IS
04:36:37 THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, CORRECT?
04:36:40 IT'S NOT THE PROCESS THAT WAS IN THE EARLIER VERSION WAS
04:36:43 NOT.
04:36:43 IT WAS -- IT WHAT HAD SOME OF THE MORATORIUM LANGUAGE IN IT
04:36:47 SO NOW WE CLEANED IT OUT TO BE MORE OF A LONG-TERM
04:36:51 AMENDMENT, CORRECT?
04:36:54 >>GINA GRIMES: WE SPOKE THIS MORNING, WHICH SEEMS RIGHT NOW
04:36:56 LIKE A LONG STADIUM AGO.
04:37:00 >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS.
04:37:02 >>GINA GRIMES: IT'S CHANGED EVEN MORE.
04:37:03 IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IN THAT RIGHT NOW
04:37:07 WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THERE
04:37:11 IS RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 1st, THERE IS NO
04:37:15 PENDING ORDINANCE IN THE DOCTRINE IN EFFECT.
04:37:18 BUT STARTING JUNE 1, WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THE PENDING
04:37:23 ORDINANCE DOCTRINE AND WOULD NO LONGER ACCEPT APPLICATION
04:37:27 THAT USE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE USE MULTIFAMILY
04:37:32 PROJECTS.
04:37:32 >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, AND I THINK THE POINT IS THAT IT'S
04:37:35 NOT WHETHER PEOPLE DIDN'T D KNOW OR DIDN'T KNOW.
04:37:38 THERE'S A LEGAL PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GONE THROUGH TO PUSH
04:37:41 THIS FORWARD IN AND WE NEED TO NOT SKIP STEPS OR ADD STEPS
04:37:44 IN A LEGAL PROCESS.
04:37:45 OTHERWISE WE'LL END UP WITH LOTS OF LAWSUITS.
04:37:49 I APPRECIATE YOU CHANGING IT AT THE LAST MINUTE.
04:37:51 I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUSH THIS FORWARD UNLESS MR.
04:37:54 DINGFELDER OR SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO IT.
04:37:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE, WE HAVE COUNCILMAN GUDES
04:37:57 HAD HIS HAND UP.
04:37:58 WE HAVE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE OF LAST
04:38:02 MINUTE CHANGES AND -- WAIT, WAIT, MR. GRANDOFF.
04:38:05 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:38:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, COMMUNICATION DOES WORK.
04:38:12 THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE, I MADE REFERENCE
04:38:16 TO BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO MAKE IT WORK.
04:38:22 I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HEARD THAT.
04:38:25 I THINK SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST I MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS
04:38:29 AND MET WITH FOLKS SOUTH OF GANDY, AND SAID THAT WE HAVE NOT
04:38:36 HAD A JOINT MEETING TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES AND I
04:38:39 THINK ADMINISTRATION FINALLY HEARD THAT CALL, AND MADE THAT
04:38:42 HAPPEN.
04:38:45 YOU CAN'T MAKE THINGS HAPPEN IF EVERYBODY IS NOT AT THE
04:38:47 TABLE.
04:38:53 WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE BUT [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
04:38:58 EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A MEAL AT THE TABLE WHEN YOU GET
04:38:59 TOGETHER.
04:39:00 AND I AM GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING.
04:39:03 SOME CHANGES WERE MADE TODAY.
04:39:05 I THINK WE HEARD FROM EVERYONE.
04:39:07 AND I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD FROM HERE, SO WE
04:39:14 DON'T GET TO THESE POINTS.
04:39:16 IF YOU MEET WITH ALL PARTIES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
04:39:19 GETTING STALE MATES ALL THE TIME ON THOSE IRONS.
04:39:23 SO I AM HOPING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE -- [~AUDIO
04:39:37 DISTORTION~]
04:39:38 >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF YOU COULD MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.
04:39:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD, NOT
04:39:48 BACKWARDS.
04:39:49 BECAUSE WE AGAIN, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN OPINION.
04:39:58 BUT WHEN THEY COME TOGETHER, PEOPLE ALWAYS SEEM TO WORK OUT
04:40:03 THEIR DIFFERENCES.
04:40:06 IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT YOU CAN GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE NO ROOM
04:40:09 AND SAY, HEY, LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.
04:40:11 I THINK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN CLOSE.
04:40:15 YOU MAY NEVER GET 100% BUT I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN CLOSE. I
04:40:20 WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR MAKING THAT EFFORT, MAKING AN
04:40:23 ATTEMPT TO GET TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND COMING
04:40:26 UP WITH A PLAN TO SOLVE SOME ISSUES.
04:40:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR.
04:40:33 MS. FEELEY, MS. POST, MS. GRIMES, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE
04:40:38 AT THE MEETING LAST FRIDAY, AND I HEARD NOTHING BUT GREAT
04:40:41 THINGS ABOUT THAT.
04:40:43 I ALSO SEE BEHIND YOU ALL MR. GOERS IS THERE.
04:40:46 AND HE HAS RECEIVED A GRANT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DOING A
04:40:52 STUDY.
04:40:52 I HOPE THAT THIS IS GOING TO AT LEAST BE OPEN ENDED ENOUGH
04:40:58 SO THAT IN TIME, SIX, EIGHT, TEN MONTHS FROM NOW, WHATEVER
04:41:02 FINDINGS THAT MR. GOERS HAS FOUND AND/OR THE PROPOSALS THAT
04:41:06 HE WANTS TO MAKE, THIS WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE TO US FROM
04:41:10 THAT STUDY THAT HE HAS HAD FUNDING FROM.
04:41:14 SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE THINGS THAT HE'S GOING TO
04:41:17 BRING TO US.
04:41:18 I'M HOPING THAT THIS CAN STILL BE TWEAKED ALONG THE WAY.
04:41:21 AND I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND FOR
04:41:25 THE STAFF PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER.
04:41:27 IT'S BEEN VERY WELL DONE.
04:41:28 THANK YOU.
04:41:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
04:41:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
04:41:33 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF FORMALITIES COME TO US IN THE
04:41:41 LAST, WHAT ARE WE, 24, WHATEVER, 36 HOURS, THINGS THAT HAVE
04:41:45 BEEN DEALT WITH SUBSTANTIVELY DID NOT PROCEDURAL COME TO US
04:41:51 WITH A LOT OF RISK.
04:41:52 WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR, WHAT I WANT, WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO
04:41:55 ME, I THINK, IN THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE PENDING ORDINANCE
04:42:01 DOCTRINE REALLY -- THE IMMEDIATE -- AND AGAIN, I AM JUST
04:42:05 GOING OFF OF WHAT I HEAR FROM SOURCES, ET CETERA, INCLUDING
04:42:09 THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHERS, AND MY UNDERSTANDING,
04:42:11 BUT THE IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT ON AN ORDINANCE
04:42:16 THAT WE GET A DAY OR TWO BEFORE, I GUESS ONE DAY BEFORE, AND
04:42:21 THAT REALLY TROUBLED ME, SO I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S
04:42:24 APPARENTLY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, BEING SET ASIDE.
04:42:27 NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PROCESS BEGINNING TODAY, OR
04:42:34 REASONABLY SOON, FOR THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT JOURNEY, I
04:42:40 GUESS IF YOU WILL, WHERE WE ARE NOT MARRYING IT, BUT WE ARE
04:42:44 DATING IT, AND WE ARE GOING TO GONE OUT TO NICE RESTAURANTS,
04:42:47 WE ARE GOING TO TALK, AND WE ARE GOING SEE IF WE WANT TO
04:42:49 TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
04:42:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE IT TO THE RIVERWALK.
04:42:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
04:42:55 TAKE IT TO THE HAPPEN.
04:42:56 SO IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING.
04:42:58 BUT, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS FOR THE
04:43:01 BEGINNING OF A PROCESS WHERE THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE PUNITIVE
04:43:08 OR OTHERWISE TYPE OF EFFECT AND THAT'S WHAT BOTHERED ME
04:43:13 ABOUT WHAT I WAS HEARING, THIS YESTERDAY, THAT'S SOMETHING
04:43:17 THAT BOTHERED ME A LOT.
04:43:18 IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, AND IN A
04:43:22 QUALIFIED TERM APPEARS.
04:43:23 IT'S JUST MY RAMBLING, DISJOINTED THOUGHT.
04:43:27 THANK YOU, SIR.
04:43:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
04:43:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:43:31 AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND LEGAL FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK
04:43:35 ON THIS, MR. SHELBY, ET CETERA.
04:43:41 MR. VIERA, IN REGARD TO YOUR COMMENTS, I AGREE WITH SOME OF
04:43:45 THEM.
04:43:45 I WOULD SAY IN REGARD TO DATING, I THINK WE HAVE BEEN DATING
04:43:48 THIS ISSUE SINCE LAST FALL, AND IF IT WHATS A WOMAN ON THE
04:43:54 OTHER SIDE SHE MIGHT BE GETTING A LITTLE IMPATIENT.
04:43:57 SO ANYWAY, SO I THINK WE BETTER MOVE FORWARD.
04:44:02 WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
04:44:06 NOT BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER ANY CRAZY PRESSURE.
04:44:09 NOT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A LAST MINUTE THING.
04:44:11 AND I JUST WANT TOPPED CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
04:44:14 THIS ISN'T A LAST-MINUTE THING.
04:44:17 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.
04:44:20 THE CONCEPTS HAVE REALLY BEEN WRESTLED WITH.
04:44:23 BUT IT'S BASICALLY THAT SAME F.A.R. CONCEPT, AND THE
04:44:27 COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PUT ON NOTICE.
04:44:28 I AM NOT SAYING EVERYBODY AGREES WITH IT, THAT EVERYBODY
04:44:32 DISAGREES WITH IT, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ON NOTICE FOR A LONG
04:44:34 TIME.
04:44:35 I THINK THAT'S A MATTER OF RECORD.
04:44:40 I THINK AS MR. GUDES SAID, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD
04:44:46 COMPROMISE.
04:44:46 I THINK THAT -- AND I THINK MR. CARLSON IT, SARASOTA.
04:44:51 UP KNOW IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE WHEN YOU ACCOMPLISH YOUR TASK
04:44:54 AS A MEDIATOR, IF NOBODY WALKS AWAY HAPPY, AND BUT EVERYBODY
04:45:01 CAN LIVE WITH IT.
04:45:02 AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
04:45:06 BILL, I AM GOING TO DEFER TO YOU TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION AND
04:45:10 THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE, BECAUSE YOU MADE THAT REQUEST.
04:45:15 I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIAL IN THAT REGARD.
04:45:20 IT'S RATHER SELF-EXPLANATORY AND I BELIEVE THE CLERK HAS A
04:45:23 COPY.
04:45:23 SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
04:45:24 BUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A SUCCESSOR MOTION THAT I NEED
04:45:29 TO MAKE.
04:45:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
04:45:30 BEFORE WE MAKE ANY MOTIONS, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:45:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF COULD YOU COME BACK TO ME AFTER THAT
04:45:36 FIRST MOTION.
04:45:37 THANK YOU.
04:45:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL.
04:45:38 I WILL.
04:45:39 I KNOW THAT WE HAVE MR. GRANDOFF THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.
04:45:43 WE ALSO HAVE A REQUEST FROM STEPHANIE POYNOR WHO IS VIRTUAL.
04:45:49 IS THAT CORRECT?
04:45:49 OKAY.
04:45:50 AND THEN WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
04:45:51 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NOTICE THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:45:54 WE DON'T DO PUBLIC COMMENT ON STAFF REPORTS.
04:45:56 MR. GRANDOFF, GO AHEAD.
04:45:58 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
04:45:58 >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:46:02 I APPRECIATE THE COURTESY AND THE EXTRA TIME TO SPEAK WITH
04:46:06 YOUR STAFF, AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCESSION THAT HAS BEEN
04:46:12 ABLY DESCRIBED BY MS. GRIMES, AND MS. POST'S EXPLANATION,
04:46:19 MS. FEELEY'S EXPLANATION.
04:46:21 I WILL CONCLUDE AND TELL YOU THAT MS. GRIMES HAS DELIVERED
04:46:25 TO YOU A SOLID AND SOUND OPINION, THAT I HAVE NO QUARREL
04:46:29 WITH, AND I BELIEVE THE REMOVAL OF THE PENDING ORDINANCE
04:46:33 LANGUAGE TAKES AWAY OUR CONCERN OVER PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS
04:46:38 QUESTIONS.
04:46:38 I THINK THE JUNE ABSOLUTE DATE IS VERY FAIR TO MY CLIENTS
04:46:42 AND TO OTHER CLIENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
04:46:45 AND TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESPECTS THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS.
04:46:49 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION ON THE
04:46:52 MERITS.
04:46:53 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EXTENDED TIME IN HEARING US
04:46:56 TODAY.
04:46:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
04:46:58 WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT'S HERE FOR
04:47:00 PUBLIC COMMENT?
04:47:05 MR. BENTLEY?
04:47:06 >>MARK BENTLEY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
04:47:12 DOES THE OVERHEAD WORK?
04:47:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:47:14 >>MARK BENTLEY: MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET,
04:47:19 TAMPA 33602.
04:47:20 APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
04:47:23 RESPOND TO BE CITY'S PROPOSED SUGGESTED ALTERNATIVE.
04:47:30 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU INDICATED THAT THIS WAS NOT A LAST
04:47:35 MINUTE THING.
04:47:36 AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM HERE IS THIS IS KIND OF A
04:47:39 SPILLOVER FROM FOCUS ON THE GANDY SITUATION, SOUTH OF GANDY,
04:47:43 BUT NOW THIS CHANGE HAS AN OVERALL IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE
04:47:46 CITY.
04:47:46 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE IS A MAP, A CRUDE MAP THAT I PUT
04:47:50 TOGETHER WHILE WAITING, OF YBOR CITY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE
04:47:53 THREE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED, UMU,
04:47:57 CMU, CC-35.
04:48:00 THEY COMPRISE PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF YBOR CITY.
04:48:03 SO ONCE THIS PENDING ORDINANCE TAKES EFFECT, THEY WOULD BE
04:48:09 SUBJECT TO ONLY DEVELOPING THESE PROPERTIES AS MIXED USE,
04:48:13 NOT A SINGLE USER.
04:48:15 AND THE WAY THINGS ARE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MIXED USE, YOU LOOK
04:48:18 AT THE ENTIRE CONTEXT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST
04:48:20 PARTICULAR PROJECT.
04:48:21 IT'S NOT LIKE EACH RESIDENTIAL PROJECT HAS A GIFT SHOP OR A
04:48:26 FLOWER SHOP TO GET AROUND THE REQUIREMENT FOR MIXED USE.
04:48:29 YOU KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
04:48:31 SO THE CONCERN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE CLIENTS WHO DON'T
04:48:35 NEED THE REZONINGS IN YBOR CITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROPER
04:48:38 ZONING, BUT THEY DO UTILIZE THE SINGLE-USE, THOUGHT
04:48:43 CATEGORIES, AS A SINGLE USE, AND THEY ARE IN THE PLANNING
04:48:46 PROCESS, FOR EXAMPLE.
04:48:47 SO MY QUESTION I WOULD POSE TO BE YOU AND YOUR STAFF IS, IF
04:48:53 THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE DOES NOT KICK IN, LET'S SAY,
04:48:56 FOR SIXTY DAYS, HOW IS SOMEONE VESTED AGAINST THE
04:48:59 APPLICATION OF THAT ORDINANCE IF THEY DON'T NEED A REZONING,
04:49:03 FOR EXAMPLE, THAT SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, MY CLIENTS ARE IN THE
04:49:05 PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF GOING BEFORE BARRIO LATINO OR DESIGNING
04:49:11 THEIR PROJECTS RIGHT NOW AND RELIANCE ON SINGLE USER F.A.R.?
04:49:14 SO WHAT ASSURANCE WOULD SOMEONE HAVE THAT ON JUNE 1st
04:49:17 THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THEM AND STOP
04:49:21 WHAT THEY INTENDED TO DO? SO WE JUST NEED SOME CERTAINTY
04:49:24 WITH RESPECT TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN SIXTY DAYS IF YOU
04:49:26 DON'T NEED A REZONING?
04:49:28 SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS MAYBE -- AND I TALKED TO THE
04:49:32 PLANNING COMMISSION.
04:49:33 THEY SAID THEY HAVE IN A OPINION ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE
04:49:37 OTHER AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT MAYBE WE CAN PULL OUT, SAY,
04:49:40 FOR EXAMPLE, THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT FROM THIS
04:49:43 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE I THINK
04:49:47 YOUR PLANNING STAFF, THEY WOULD AGREE, AND I KNOW THE
04:49:50 PLANNING COMMISSION KNOWS THAT THE HIGHER DENSITIES ARE MORE
04:49:54 APPROPRIATE IN THE URBAN CORE, PLACES LIKE YBOR CITY IS
04:49:56 REALLY NOT PROBLEMATIC.
04:49:58 SO I WOULD MAKE THAT SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL AS TO MAYBE
04:50:02 EXTRACT THE URBAN CORE, YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT FROM THE
04:50:07 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE AND JUST LET IT GO THROUGH THE
04:50:10 REGULAR PROCESS.
04:50:12 IN THE ALTERNATIVE, IF WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF ASSURANCE
04:50:15 FROM THE CITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME AS TO WHAT WOULD BE I'LL
04:50:19 CALL IT INVESTING AGAINST THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE FOR
04:50:24 PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BUT DON'T
04:50:26 NECESSARILY NEED TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY.
04:50:28 I THINK GINA HAD MENTIONED REZONING APPLICATIONS.
04:50:31 THANK YOU.
04:50:31 >> ALL RIGHT.
04:50:34 BEFORE WE GO TO STEPHANIE POYNOR, JUST A QUESTION IN REGARDS
04:50:38 TO THE COMMENTS BY MR. BENTLEY.
04:50:40 WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO EXCLUDE YBOR CITY CONSIDERING THE
04:50:43 BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, CONSIDERING THERE'S A HEIGHT
04:50:47 RESTRICTION IN THE HISTORIC AREA?
04:50:48 BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE CONSIDERING THE
04:50:51 CIRCUMSTANCES?
04:50:52 GINA?
04:50:54 >>GINA GRIMES: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IT'S A VALID POINT.
04:50:57 I HAVEN'T REALLY GIVEN IT THOUGHT.
04:50:59 BUT WHEN I SUGGESTED EARLIER WAS THAT I COME BACK IN TWO
04:51:04 WEEKS WITH THE RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE, THAT IMPLEMENTS THE
04:51:09 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE STARTING JUNE 1.
04:51:11 SO MR. BENTLEY AND I, ANYONE ELSE ON OUR STAFF, COULD
04:51:17 DISCUSS WHAT HE IS REQUESTING, AND THEN MAKE A
04:51:20 RECOMMENDATION, THAT IS SOMETHING -- IT'S A VALID POINT BUT
04:51:26 I CAN'T GIVE YOU A GOOD ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
04:51:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT BY
04:51:31 APRIL 15th?
04:51:33 >>GINA GRIMES: TWO WEEKS.
04:51:34 YES.
04:51:34 AND WORK WITH HIM IN BETWEEN.
04:51:38 >>MARK BENTLEY: THANK YOU ALL.
04:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN WE HAVE STEPHANIE POYNOR ON THE
04:51:42 LINE.
04:51:42 IF YOU ARE THERE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
04:51:44 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
04:51:45 >> I FEEL SPECIAL.
04:51:50 TWICE IN A N ONE DAY.
04:51:52 SO I CAN'T SAY THAT I BLAME FOLKS FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING --
04:52:00 AND [~DISTORTION~] YBOR CITY, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND AS A
04:52:07 NOVICE, AND SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LAND
04:52:10 USE OR LAWYERS OR ANY OF THAT STUFF, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
04:52:15 WE -- [~DISTORTION~]
04:52:19 AND CITY-WIDE.
04:52:26 BUT IT'S NOT THAT I AM UNHAPPY ABOUT IT.
04:52:32 BUT WE'LL TAKE WHAT WE CAN GET.
04:52:34 BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF YOU CAN EXTRACT YBOR CITY, WHY IS
04:52:38 IT THAT WE ARE NOT EXTRACTED?
04:52:42 LIKE I SAID THIS MORNING, THE CRA, ALL THESE DIFFERENT
04:52:45 DESIGNATIONS, WE HAVE LOST GEOGRAPHICALLY AND THE PROBLEM IS
04:52:56 WE ARE AT A DEAD-END, AND I AGREE WITH THIS, BUT --
04:53:11 SO TO SEE THE F.A.R. GO AWAY.
04:53:16 IF IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE CITY, THEN GOD BLESS YOU.
04:53:19 BUT FROM THE URBAN VILLAGE THEN WHY COULDN'T YOU MAKE THIS
04:53:25 EXCEPTION?
04:53:31 [~DISTORTION~]
04:53:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:53:33 ALL RIGHT.
04:53:34 WE'LL COME BACK WITH THAT APRIL 15th REGARDING YBOR CITY
04:53:38 AND OTHER ISSUES.
04:53:39 SO THERE WILL BE MORE CLARIFICATION THEN.
04:53:41 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:53:42 >>LUIS VIERA: AND MR. BENTLEY'S POINTS WERE HE I THINK SO
04:53:47 PIVOTAL.
04:53:48 HE APPEARED TO BE SATISFIED BY THAT, BUT IN OTHER WORDS, MR.
04:53:51 BENTLEY, IF I MAY, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR CONCERNS GOING
04:53:56 FORWARD?
04:53:57 JUST BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH A PIVOTAL ISSUE HE BRINGS OUT?
04:54:02 I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL THERE.
04:54:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BENTLEY, IF YOU ARE STILL AROUND,
04:54:06 IF YOU COULD COME TO THE KIOSK.
04:54:21 IS ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK?
04:54:22 THERE HE IS.
04:54:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE HE IS.
04:54:25 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
04:54:30 MR. BENTLEY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
04:54:33 YOU APPEAR TO BE SATISFIED BY MS. GRIMES' STATEMENT THAT IT
04:54:38 SATISFIED YOU FOR NOW GOING FORWARD.
04:54:39 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION THAT
04:54:42 MY SUGGESTIONS WAS RIGHT.
04:54:44 >>MARK BENTLEY: WELL, IN RESPONSE, MY UNDERSTANDING, MS.
04:54:48 GRIMES AND I WOULD DISCUSS AND ULTIMATELY IF THE URBAN CORE,
04:54:54 YBOR, IS NOT EXEMPTED THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME KIND OF
04:54:57 FRAMEWORK OR CRITERIA TO ESTABLISH WHEN OUR PROPERTY WAS NOT
04:55:02 SUBJECTS TO THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE.
04:55:06 THAT WAS MY IMPRESSION WALKING AWAY FROM HERE.
04:55:12 GINA, DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT?
04:55:14 >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S ACCURATE.
04:55:15 WHEN WE GET INTO THE ISSUES, THOUGH, IT WILL PROBABLY EXPAND
04:55:18 A LITTLE BIT MORE.
04:55:20 THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES TO BE THIS, AND WE ARE TRYING TO GO
04:55:23 AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE READY TO MOVE
04:55:27 FORWARD, AND THAT WE ARE WILLING TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROPOSAL,
04:55:30 BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED
04:55:34 THAT RELATE TO IT, AND MARK, THE ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP
04:55:40 ABOUT THE WISDOM AND MAKING IT THIS ELIMINATION OF THE
04:55:46 F.A.R. CALCULATION APPLY IN PLACES LIKE YBOR CITY OR OTHER
04:55:50 AREAS WHERE WE WANTED DIRECT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT LIKE,
04:55:55 FOR INSTANCE, TRANSIT CORRIDORS.
04:55:56 THOSE ARE ALL ISSUES THAT I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THE PLAN
04:55:59 AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE WILL LEAVE THAT IN.
04:56:02 BUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS DURING THE THIS PENDENCY
04:56:05 OF THAT PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS HOW WE ADDRESS YOUR S
04:56:09 SITUATION IN THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE.
04:56:11 SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE, YOU KNOW -- I'M
04:56:15 HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND I THINK WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
04:56:18 I DO.
04:56:18 BUT WATCH WE ARE GOING TO WORK OUT IS WITH RESPECT TO THE
04:56:22 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE
04:56:24 PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS TO TAKE ITS COURSE SO EVERYONE HAS
04:56:30 PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT, SO IN THE END THERE'S NO GUARANTEE
04:56:33 THAT IN YBOR CITY THAT YOU WILL RETAIN THE RIGHT TO USE THAT
04:56:40 F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE-USE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.
04:56:43 YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE YOUR SAME PRESENTATION DURING THE
04:56:46 PENDENCY OF VARIOUS HEARINGS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE
04:56:49 PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS.
04:56:51 >>MARK BENTLEY: EXCUSE ME, I THOUGHT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS
04:56:53 THAT CITY COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED MS. GRIMES TO CONSIDER
04:57:00 DELETING YBOR CITY OR THE URBAN CORE FROM THE OVERALL
04:57:05 PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE AND JUST DEAL -- IF THERE'S GOING
04:57:09 TO BE A CHANGE, DEAL WITH IT THROUGH THE TYPICAL PLAN
04:57:11 AMENDMENT PROCESS THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
04:57:13 ULTIMATELY.
04:57:15 >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
04:57:17 >>MARK BENTLEY: OKAY.
04:57:18 SO BASICALLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER
04:57:19 OR NOT YBOR OR THE URBAN CORE, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL
04:57:24 IT --
04:57:26 >>GINA GRIMES: THE BENDING ORDINANCE.
04:57:27 >>MARK BENTLEY: IN THE ALTERNATIVE, IF YOU BELIEVE IT
04:57:30 SHOULD BE, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT
04:57:33 THE CRITERIA, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, TO VEST THE
04:57:39 PROPERTY PENDING.
04:57:42 >>GINA GRIMES: RIGHT.
04:57:44 >>MARK BENTLEY: FOR THE RECORD, I REPRESENTED DARRELL SHAW
04:57:48 AND HIS RELATED CORPORATIONS, THE CAPITANO FAMILY AND THEIR
04:57:52 RELATED CORPORATIONS, NCJ INVESTMENT COMPANY, NICK CAPITANO,
04:57:57 ET CETERA, MARK BENTLEY.
04:57:59 THANK YOU.
04:57:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. CHAIR.
04:58:02 GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ISSUES MR. BENTLEY RAISED, JUST
04:58:05 OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
04:58:08 THANK YOU FOR THE INDULGENCE, SIR.
04:58:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:58:12 DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS?
04:58:13 >>THE CLERK: I HAVE GENE ZERO MAYOR.
04:58:21 >> IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WE'LL
04:58:23 WRAP IT UP WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE IS NOBODY ELSE
04:58:26 ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THAT WAS IT.
04:58:29 GENE STROHMEYER.
04:58:30 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
04:58:33 WE HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, AGAIN.
04:58:35 JUST IN ECHOING WHAT STEPHANIE HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
04:58:40 JUST BEEN THROUGH SUCH A LONG PROCESS WITH THIS, AND WE HAVE
04:58:43 COME TO A SOLUTION, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AND WE APPRECIATE
04:58:48 ALL THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, SINGLING OUT, WE WOULDN'T MIND
04:58:53 SINGLING OUT YBOR CITY, BUT WE TRIED TO SINGLE OURSELVES OUT
04:58:57 BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THE PENINSULA.
04:58:59 BUT IT WASN'T POSSIBLE, OR SINGLE OUT THE COASTAL HIGH
04:59:08 HAZARD AREA.
04:59:09 WE DIDN'T WANT TO BRING ANYBODY ELSE INTO OUR FIGHT BECAUSE
04:59:11 WE ARE A UNIQUE SITUATION DOWN HERE.
04:59:15 BUT LEGALLY, I GUESS FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, IT WAS NOT
04:59:20 PLAUSIBLE AND IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT
04:59:23 WE COULD DO.
04:59:24 SO WE APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE
04:59:28 AFFECTED BY THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS AND
04:59:31 FIGHTING THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
04:59:33 SO I HOPE YOU GUYS GET WHAT YOU WANT AND WE ALL ARE TRYING
04:59:38 TO MAKE OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS A BETTER PLACE.
04:59:43 WE ARE EXPERTS IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:59:44 I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN YBOR.
04:59:46 I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN BEACH PARK OR ANYWHERE ELSE BUT I AM AN
04:59:50 EXPERT IN SOUTH OF GANDY. ANYWAY, THANKS EVERYBODY.
04:59:53 HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
04:59:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:59:54 THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:59:57 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD THE MOTION.
04:59:59 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS GOING TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP MOTION AS
05:00:02 HE MENTIONED.
05:00:03 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:00:04 >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS THANK YOU
05:00:09 MY COLLEAGUES.
05:00:10 I WAS OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND YOU ALL DELAYED THIS.
05:00:13 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN BUT WE MIGHT
05:00:16 HAVE HAD A MORATORIUM.
05:00:17 BUT BECAUSE YOU DELAYED IT, WE HAVE A YOU MIGHT CALL A
05:00:22 COMPROMISE AGREEMENT.
05:00:23 SO THANK YOU ALSO.
05:00:25 IF SOMEBODY ELSE REALLY WANTS TO MAKE THIS MOTION YOU ARE
05:00:27 WELCOME TO DO IT BUT OTHERWISE, WHAT DO I SAY, I WOULD LIKE
05:00:31 TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
05:00:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
05:00:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY CITRO.
05:00:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:00:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRMAN,
05:00:42 THE RESOLUTION --
05:00:45 >>> ITEM NUMBER 46.
05:00:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
05:00:47 THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION SENT TO THE CLERK, AND THERE'S AN
05:00:50 ATTACH.
05:00:51 A, WHICH IS A DRAFT ORDINANCE, TWO PAGES, AS WELL AS AN
05:00:56 EXHIBIT, TWO-PAGE EXHIBIT ATTACHED TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
05:00:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.
05:01:02 >>GINA GRIMES: AND IT'S DATED 4-1.
05:01:04 AT THE END.
05:01:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND DATED APRIL 1st.
05:01:08 >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT APRIL 15th
05:01:11 WHATEVER WAS IN THE MOTION?
05:01:14 >>GINA GRIMES: I THINK THAT'S THE FOLLOW-UP MOTION JOHN
05:01:17 WAS GOING TO MAKE.
05:01:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
05:01:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:01:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:01:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:01:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:01:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:01:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:01:29 >> YES.
05:01:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:01:32 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:01:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
05:01:38 IN REGARD TO THE FOLLOW-UP MOTION, THAT ON APRIL 15th,
05:01:44 THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL AND PRESENT
05:01:48 APPROPRIATE LEGAL DOCUMENTATION TO PUT INTO EFFECT STARTING
05:01:53 JUNE 1st, 2021, THAT THE CITY SHALL NOT ACCEPT REZONING
05:01:58 APPLICATIONS WHICH UTILIZE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE
05:02:03 USE, MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, IN ANY UMU-60, CMU-35, AND CC-35
05:02:12 COMP PLAN CATEGORIES.
05:02:15 SO SPECIFICALLY OR TO RECAP THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WILL
05:02:19 COME BACK ON APRIL 15th AND BRING THE DOCUMENTATION
05:02:23 NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE OR WHAT HAVE
05:02:28 YOU THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JUNE 1st.
05:02:31 THE PURPOSE OF THIS MOTION IS TO PUT EVERYBODY ON NOTICE
05:02:34 THAT AS OF JOHN 1st, WE'LL BE CHANGING THIS AS RELATED
05:02:42 TO THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE-USE PROJECTS IN THE UMU
05:02:47 60, CMU-35 AND CC-35 CATEGORY.
05:02:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN
05:02:53 DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION.
05:02:55 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:02:58 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:02:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:03:01 YES, AND I WILL OBVIOUSLY BE SUPPORTING THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM
05:03:05 WAY HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THE FIRST GO-AROUND AND WHAT I
05:03:08 HEARD THIS EVENING, AGAIN I HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT
05:03:11 WE WERE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING TODAY, BECAUSE IT APPEARED
05:03:14 TOP TAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT ACTION WITH, YOU KNOW, A PROCESS
05:03:20 THAT I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER ON.
05:03:22 I THINK THIS IS THE PROCESS WHERE WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE AND
05:03:26 HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND GIVE PEOPLE PROPER NOTICE, AND
05:03:29 WE CAN TALK THROUGH THIS ISSUE, ET CETERA, AND WITH REGARDS
05:03:33 TO BIG IDEAS, LIKE A CHANGE IN THE COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, A
05:03:37 LOT OF THEM TAKE TIME.
05:03:38 I MEAN, WE JUST PASSED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO APPRENTICESHIP
05:03:42 ORDINANCE THAT PROBABLY BEGAN MEETING WITH PEOPLE ON ABOUT A
05:03:46 YEAR AND THREE MONTHS AGO.
05:03:47 SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS UNFORTUNATELY TAKE A WHILE.
05:03:50 BUT THAT'S HOW GOOD LEGISLATION OR GOOD ORDINANCES GO
05:03:53 THROUGH IS BY TAKING A LONG TIME.
05:03:56 SO A LOT OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT I HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF
05:03:59 THE MEETING APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN REMEDIED, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN
05:04:04 OTHERWISE.
05:04:04 JUST WANTED TO SAY.
05:04:06 THAT THANK YOU, SIR.
05:04:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
05:04:08 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:04:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:04:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:04:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:04:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:04:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:04:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:04:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:04:22 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:04:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:04:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, EARLIER, UNDER NEW
05:04:28 BUSINESS, I SAID I HAVE GOT AN ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING
05:04:31 UP AS RELATED TO THIS.
05:04:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
05:04:34 BRING IT UP NOW WHILE THE, WHAT IS IT, IRON IS HOT?
05:04:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO.
05:04:40 AT FRIDAY'S MEETING THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS RENT PRESENTED
05:04:43 THE MAYOR AND STAFF WITH A ONE-PAGE, 14-ITEM LIST OF
05:04:50 CONCERNS.
05:04:51 AND PART OF THE REASON THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS
05:04:57 SETTLEMENT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, PROCESS IS THAT STAFF
05:05:03 ASSURED THEM THAT THEY WOULD ADDRESS -- AND THEY DID ADDRESS
05:05:09 SOME OF THEM ON FRIDAY BUT STAFF ASSURED THEM THAT OVER THE
05:05:11 NEXT X PERIOD OF TIME THAT STAFF ONE CONTINUE TO ADDRESS
05:05:15 THESE 14 ITEMS.
05:05:16 NOW, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WE CAN RESOLVE ALL 14.
05:05:20 THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE SATISFIED.
05:05:22 AND THEY DID PROMISE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WOULD
05:05:26 ADDRESS THESE 14 ITEMS.
05:05:27 SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE -- AND I WILL PROVIDE THE
05:05:31 CLERK WITH A COPY OF THE 14 ITEMS, PAGE THAT I AM TALKING
05:05:36 ABOUT, AND COUNCIL ALREADY RECEIVED IT --
05:05:40 >>> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF COULD YOU PLEASE MUTE YOUR
05:05:42 MICROPHONE.
05:05:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL HAS ALREADY RECEIVED THE 14 ITEM
05:05:47 PAGE.
05:05:47 I WILL PROVIDE A COPY TO THE CLERK.
05:05:49 BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS A MOTION THAT STARTING IN JUNE,
05:06:00 THAT STAFF, UNDER STAFF REPORTS, STAFF WOULD COME AND TALK
05:06:04 TO US ABOUT THESE 14 ITEMS.
05:06:08 AND THEN EVERY QUARTER THEREAFTER THAT STAFF WOULD COME BACK
05:06:14 AND CONTINUE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THESE 14 ITEMS, AND THEN
05:06:16 THAT WAY, THE COMMUNITY DOWN THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO KEEP
05:06:22 PESTERING US BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A REGULAR THINGS AT
05:06:24 LEAST FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR SO UNTIL WE CAN WORK THROUGH
05:06:27 THESE 14 ITEMS.
05:06:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IS MS. POST STILL ON THE
05:06:33 WEBINAR?
05:06:36 >>CAROLE POST: I AM STILL LISTENING.
05:06:37 I'M HERE.
05:06:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:06:38 I JUST WANT TO ASK COUNCIL, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO REFER TO
05:06:42 THE STAFF IN TERMS OF THE TIME FRAME FOR THE PRESENTATION
05:06:46 JUST SO WE GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS TO WHETHER THEY
05:06:49 WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THAT WHILE THEY ARE ON THE LINE,
05:06:51 IF YOU DON'T MIND.
05:06:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MY SUGGESTION IS WE START WITH THIS
05:06:54 90 DAYS FROM NOW, AND LIKE I SAID, JUST UPDATES, OKAY?
05:06:59 HERE ARE THESE ITEMS.
05:07:00 THIS IS WHERE WE ARE ON THIS ITEM.
05:07:03 THIS IS WHERE WE ARE ON THIS ITEM.
05:07:04 WE HAVEN'T STARTED THIS ITEM YET, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
05:07:07 AND JUST GIVE QUARTERLY UPDATES SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT
05:07:12 WE THE CITY ARE LISTENING AND WE HAVEN'T DROPPED THE BALL.
05:07:15 >> IF I MAY.
05:07:24 CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
05:07:27 OPPORTUNITY.
05:07:27 I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF THE MOTION.
05:07:29 A QUESTION CERTAINLY NEVER HAD ANY OBJECTION TO KEEPING THE
05:07:33 COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY APPRAISED OF PROGRESS. IN THIS
05:07:37 PARTICULAR CASE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND THE NEXT
05:07:39 STEPS THAT WERE COMMITTED TO ON THAT FRIDAY MEETING THAT WE
05:07:43 ALL ATTENDED WERE THAT THE 14 ITEMS ACTUALLY BROKE INTO
05:07:49 THREE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF FOLLOW-UP.
05:07:53 THE FIRST WAS WITHIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
05:07:56 MANAGEMENT.
05:07:57 OBVIOUSLY WE ARE TAKING THE FIRST STEP TODAY ON WHAT WAS
05:08:00 NUMBER ONE ON THAT LIST.
05:08:02 RELATIVE ITEMS, I DON'T HAVE IN THE FRONT OF ME, BUT WE
05:08:06 CATALOGUED AND ALIGNED WITH OUR CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND
05:08:10 RANDY GOERS WORK PLAN.
05:08:12 SO THOSE WILL HAVE A HOME, FULL, AND AS SOON AS WE GET BACK
05:08:17 TO THAT WORK PLAN, THEY WILL BE UNDERWAY.
05:08:21 THE SECOND THAN CONCERNED TRANSPORTATION AND EVACUATION
05:08:24 RELATED MATTERS.
05:08:26 OUR REPRESENTATIVE THERE FROM THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY
05:08:28 TEAM AGREED TO TAKE THAT ON AND HAVE A MINI TASK FORCE TO
05:08:35 RESPOND TO THE SPECIFIC REQUESTS AND BEYOND THAT AND TO TAKE
05:08:39 THAT ON A SEPARATE PATH FOR THOSE FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSIONS.
05:08:43 AND THE THIRD WAS WITH RESPECT TO EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND
05:08:47 THE MANAGEMENTS OF THAT PROCESS, AND CHIEF BENNETT AGREED TO
05:08:52 TAKE THAT ON WITH THE FAIR RESCUE GROUP AND OUR EMERGENCY
05:08:55 RESPONSE TEAM.
05:08:55 SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAD A VERY CLEAR PLAN, COMMUNITY GROUP IN
05:09:01 THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP WAS IN CONCERT WITH THAT AND OUR
05:09:06 COMMITMENT IS TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.
05:09:08 AGAIN, NO RESERVATIONS TO KEEP THE COUNCIL APPRAISED OF IT.
05:09:12 I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN JOHN, AFTER JOHN 1, AND GIVE A
05:09:17 PRELIMINARY REPORT, AND THEN FOR EACH ITEM WE WILL BE ABLE
05:09:20 TO CORRELATE WHAT A FURTHER FOLLOW-UP MIGHT BE FOR THOSE
05:09:24 FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE.
05:09:28 THAT'S A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT OUR PLANS WERE AND
05:09:30 OUR AGREEMENT WITH THAT COMMUNITY GROUP FOR ATTENDING TO
05:09:33 THEIR SPECIFIC REQUESTS.
05:09:35 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP?
05:09:39 >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO
05:09:43 WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT IT COVERS MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS,
05:09:46 BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT -- AND MAYBE THERE'S A POINT
05:09:49 PERSON LIKE A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CITY THAT COULD COME
05:09:52 BACK AND LEAD THIS WITH US, AND BEYOND THE LIST THAT THEY
05:09:56 LISTED, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT NEED TO ADDRESSED, AND
05:10:00 UPDATES THAT CAN BE GIVEN AS WELL.
05:10:03 YOU ALL KNOW THAT MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY WERE
05:10:06 IGNORED FOR AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF
05:10:09 THE RECESSION, IT WAS BECAUSE RESOURCES WERE FOCUS DOLLARS
05:10:12 ELSEWHERE.
05:10:12 AND WE HAD NEIGHBORHOODS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT ARE ASKING
05:10:15 US FOR RESOURCES.
05:10:17 IN SOUTH TAMPA I CAN TELL YOU THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT HAD
05:10:21 THE GREATEST NEED.
05:10:22 EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NEEDS, BUT THIS ONE HAS A GREAT NEED,
05:10:25 AND WE NEED TO FOCUS SOME RESOURCES.
05:10:28 PART OF IT IS ABOUT EQUITY AND BRINGING UP THE NEIGHBORHOODS
05:10:31 THAT WERE IGNORED FOR WAY TAKE LONG AND IT'S TRULY IN EAST
05:10:34 TAMPA, WEST TAMPA AND ELSEWHERE.
05:10:36 SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FOCUSING ON THIS.
05:10:39 AND THE MORE ATTENTION WE CAN BRING TO IT, THE MORE EQUITY
05:10:42 WE CAN BUILD IN OUR COMMUNITY.
05:10:44 LAST THING, SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, I HAD A
05:10:48 CONVERSATION WITH MS. GRIMES ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING.
05:10:50 PART OF MY PROFESSION IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
05:10:54 I DON'T DO IT WITH THE CITY ANYMORE BECAUSE OF CONFLICTS.
05:10:57 BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO COMMUNICATE WITH
05:11:01 THE COMMUNITY, AND TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT HAS
05:11:04 TO BE THE STANDARD, NOT THE EXCEPTION.
05:11:06 THIS PROCESS TAKES A LOT OF TIME.
05:11:08 IT TOOK A LOT OF NEGOTIATION.
05:11:10 AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING PROCESS.
05:11:12 BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS MAYOR AND THIS CITY COUNCIL ARE VERY
05:11:16 COMMITTED TO IT.
05:11:17 LOOK AT THE TAMPA MOVES PROCESS, LOOK AT THE PROCESS RANDY
05:11:21 GOERS IS DOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING DISTRICTS.
05:11:24 WE ARE CHANGING THE PROCESS.
05:11:26 IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME BUT WE ARE CHANGING THE
05:11:28 PROCESS AND TRAINING AND RETRAINING AND GETTING PEOPLE WHO
05:11:31 KNOW HOW TONG DO THIS AND WE ARE TRYING TO PLAN A BETTER,
05:11:36 AND WE GET FLOODED WITH COMPLAINTS EVERY DAY, AND I KNOW
05:11:39 THERE ARE 100 TIMES MORE THAT THAT ARE OUT THERE AND WE ARE
05:11:43 TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BUT
05:11:46 TRYING TO SET UP LISTENING SERVICES AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT I
05:11:48 THINK WILL LEAD TO MORE ROBUST SOLUTIONS.
05:11:51 THANK YOU.
05:11:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
05:11:52 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD A MOTION.
05:11:54 DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:11:57 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:11:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARITY, OUR SECOND MEETING IN
05:12:06 JUNE?
05:12:08 >> OUR SECOND MEETING IN JUNE JUST TO GET A DATE --
05:12:11 >> JUNE 17th.
05:12:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THE 17th.
05:12:14 YES, MA'AM.
05:12:15 >> AND THEN QUARTERLY THEREAFTER.
05:12:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:12:19 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:12:21 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:12:22 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:12:26 >> EXCUSE ME.
05:12:27 IF I MAY, SIR.
05:12:28 I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THERE.
05:12:30 I HEARD A 90-DAY REPORT, BUT JUNE, 90 DAYS WOULD PUT US PAST
05:12:35 JULY WHICH FRANKLY GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE JUST TAKEN ON WOULD BE
05:12:38 PREFERRED.
05:12:38 >> I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
05:12:43 FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.
05:12:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.
05:12:52 [OFF MICROPHONE] SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:12:56 ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:12:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:13:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:13:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:13:04 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:13:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:13:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:13:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:13:08 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:13:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:13:11 THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 47 CAME
05:13:15 THROUGH AS A STAFF REPORT -- I'M SORRY, AS A MEMO.
05:13:19 IT WILL COME BACK TO US IN TWO WEEKS.
05:13:21 I KNOW THAT LAST WEEK, AND I KNOW TIME WAS OF THE ESSENCE.
05:13:25 HONORARY STREET SIGN FOR TAMPA BAY RADIO LEGEND TEDD WEBB
05:13:30 WHO PASSED AWAY A FEW DAYS AGO.
05:13:33 I HOPE HE HEARD THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE THURSDAY.
05:13:36 I KNOW WE BROUGHT IT UP ON THE RADIO THAT MORNING, AND I
05:13:40 KNOW HE WAS LISTENING.
05:13:41 SO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER HE IS, I KNOW THAT THERE IS
05:13:46 MORE TO LIFE.
05:13:48 MY FAITH SAYS THERE'S MORE AFTER WE LEAVE THIS EARTH, BUT
05:13:51 WE'LL COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND I WILL WORK WITH THE STAFF
05:13:55 ON THAT.
05:13:56 AND THIS ALSO IS IN RESPONSE TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES
05:14:00 REGARDING HONORARY STREET SIGNS.
05:14:02 IT'S ALL IN THE MEMO.
05:14:04 SO HAVING SAID THAT --
05:14:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO CLARIFY, LET'S
05:14:08 JUST HOPE THE MEETINGS ARE SHORTER AFTER WE LEAVE THIS
05:14:11 EARTH.
05:14:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MEETINGS ARE ETERNAL.
05:14:15 THERE'S NO TIME.
05:14:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, WE WILL MISTED WEB.
05:14:19 HE'S A GREAT GUY.
05:14:20 >>
05:14:21 >> IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
05:14:23 I KNOW I TOOK EVERYBODY BUT I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS.
05:14:27 >>LUIS VIERA: DON'T YOU NEED TO DO --
05:14:29 >>> YES. I LISTENED TO THE WORDS OF COUNCIL AND THOSE WERE
05:14:33 MOVING CRA TO A SEPARATE DAY ON TOSS.
05:14:35 THEREFORE ADDING ANOTHER WORKSHOP IN THE MEETING.
05:14:38 I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE OPPOSED TO THAT.
05:14:41 SO WE COULD SCRATCH LEAVE CRA WHERE IT'S AT AND LEAVE THE
05:14:46 WORKSHOP TO ONE PER MEETING.
05:14:48 SO WE WILL SCRATCH ITEM 3 AND 6.
05:14:52 AND THEN THE REST OF THE ITEMS OF THE 12, I THINK, WE ARE
05:14:55 OKAY.
05:14:57 IF THERE IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT, I PASS THE GAVEL TO
05:15:01 COUNCILMEMBER CITRO AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
05:15:04 ADOPT THAN THE NOW TEN ITEMS, SINCE THIS HAS BEEN MODIFIED
05:15:09 IN MY MEMO.
05:15:15 COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:15:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN
05:15:18 MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:15:22 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:15:23 OR ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:15:25 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:15:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:15:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:15:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:15:32 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:15:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:15:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:15:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:15:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
05:15:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN'T.
05:15:43 I DON'T SLEEP.
05:15:45 >> NEITHER DO I.
05:15:48 AND ONE MORE ITEM.
05:15:49 [ LAUGHTER ]
05:15:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:16:02 AND WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL DISCUSSION ON MONDAY, WE DISCUSSED
05:16:06 SALARY FOR MR. SHELBY.
05:16:09 WE CAME DOWN WITH THE ANALYSIS OF OTHER ATTORNEYS THAT ARE
05:16:14 COMPARABLE.
05:16:15 WE LOOKED AT HIS TIME OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHICH
05:16:18 IS 17 YEARS.
05:16:19 WE SAW THAT SINCE 2007 THERE WAS NO MERIT PAY INCREASE.
05:16:24 MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT IN THIS BUDGET COMING UP, I AM NOT
05:16:28 ASKING FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT, IN THIS BUDGET COMING UP, WE
05:16:31 BEGIN FISCAL YEAR, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1st,
05:16:34 THAT WE SET -- I'M SORRY, MR. SHELBY'S SALARY AT $155,000.
05:16:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
05:16:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:16:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND -- MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY BEING
05:16:55 DINGFELDER.
05:16:56 ANY DISCUSSION?
05:16:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I RESPECT THE
05:17:02 CHAIRMAN AND WHAT HE'S PUT FORTH.
05:17:03 BUT I LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THE MAN IS STILL
05:17:10 WORKING.
05:17:13 WE ALL KNOW IF WE ARE WORKING WE WANT TO BE PAID MORE.
05:17:16 I KNOW I DO.
05:17:23 I LOOK AT THE FACTS.
05:17:27 I'M JUST SORRY.
05:17:28 A MAN THAT WORKS FOR ME IN MY HOUSE, AND I AM GOING TO PAY A
05:17:32 PERSON COMPARABLE, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD HIS PAY TO
05:17:34 WAIT TILL DOWN THE ROAD.
05:17:37 FOR ME, I DON'T THINK HE NEED TO WAIT.
05:17:40 WHY SHOULD HE HAVE TO WAIT?
05:17:44 YOU WAIT 13, 14 YEARS.
05:17:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT PART OF THE MOTION, THE WAIT?
05:17:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:17:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAID BEGINNING OCTOBER 1st.
05:17:53 JUST FOR A SMATTER TRANSITION.
05:17:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S JUST NOT MY THING.
05:17:59 I'M A DIFFERENT KIND OF GUY NOW.
05:18:01 BUT TO HOLD HIM UP TO WAIT TILL ANOTHER BUDGET YEAR.
05:18:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.
05:18:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
05:18:10 HE'S BEEN WORKING, HE'S BEEN WAITING, HE WORKS FOR US.
05:18:13 I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
05:18:14 I'M SORRY, I JUST HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT MAKING HIM WAIT.
05:18:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. GRIMES, I SEE YOUR HAND IS HELD UP.
05:18:22 MS. GRIMES.
05:18:23 >>GINA GRIMES: YES.
05:18:24 I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SALARY AND THE BENEFITS.
05:18:31 AS YOU KNOW, THE CHARTER ALLOWS YOU TO ESTABLISH THE SALARY
05:18:38 FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:18:41 AND IT DOES SAY THAT IT SHALL BE COMPARABLE TO OTHER
05:18:43 ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS.
05:18:46 AND SO IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO LOOK AT WHETHER 155 IS
05:18:52 COMPARABLE TO OTHER ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS WITH SIMILAR
05:18:55 EXPERIENCE.
05:18:58 BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT FACTORS IS ALL OF THE ASSISTANT CITY
05:19:00 ATTORNEYS ARE SUBJECT TO ANNUAL LEAVE, SICK LEAVE, AND
05:19:09 EXEMPT LEAVE SO THEY ONLY GET TWO WEEKS OF ANNUAL AND SICK
05:19:11 LEAVE EVERY YEAR, AND MY QUESTION IS, IN ORDER FOR MR.
05:19:17 SHELBY TO BE COMPARABLE, WOULD YOU ALSO BE IMPOSING THAT
05:19:21 SAME LIMITATION?
05:19:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THE GAVEL.
05:19:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:19:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MS. GRIMES, FOR YOUR
05:19:31 COMMENTS.
05:19:33 I FOR ONE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS EXHAUSTIVELY.
05:19:36 I HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE SALARIES THAT ARE LISTED WITH
05:19:43 THE VALUABLE ASSISTANTS, CHIEF ASSISTANTS, ET CETERA,
05:19:48 UPSTAIRS.
05:19:50 I AM TEN YEARS FAMILIAR WITH THE HARD WORK THAT MR. SHELBY
05:19:53 PUTS IN AS ALL OF YOU KNOW.
05:19:57 SO I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION IN MY MIND IS THE QUESTION THAT
05:20:00 COUNCILMAN GUDES RAISED, AND I AM GLAD YOU CAUGHT THAT
05:20:03 BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER.
05:20:05 I THINK WE SHOULD SET THAT AMOUNT.
05:20:07 AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE EFFECTIVE WITHIN THE NEXT AVAILABLE
05:20:10 PAY PERIOD.
05:20:14 BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE MOTION.
05:20:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:20:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS.
05:20:25 NOT OPPOSED TO ANYONE GETTING A RAISE.
05:20:27 WHAT I SEE HERE COMING IS THE CONTINUATION OF SOMETHING THAT
05:20:31 WOULD LEAD TO SOMETHING WE AREN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT THAT.
05:20:36 WHY DON'T YOU GIVE A SALARY RAISE TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THOSE
05:20:39 THAT HAVE WORKED 40 HOURS.
05:20:43 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAY, 40 HOURS, I'M NOT SAYING HE
05:20:52 DOESN'T OR HE DOES.
05:20:55 WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS.
05:21:00 CITY ATTORNEYS WORK 40 HOURS, NOT ONLY WHAT THEY DO WHEN
05:21:06 THEY TAKE HOME.
05:21:07 THEY DON'T HAVE FIVE WEEKS VACATION AND THEY DON'T HAVE
05:21:09 UNLIMITED SICK LEAVE.
05:21:11 IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, AND YOU WANT TO TURN THE
05:21:16 LEGAL DEPARTMENT UPSIDE DOWN, THEN HE SHOULD GET TWO WEEKS
05:21:19 VACATION AND TWO WEEKS SICK LEAVE.
05:21:22 MONEY IS ONE THING.
05:21:23 BUT WHEN YOU ADD THE TOTAL PACKAGE OF THE PAY VERSUS FIVE
05:21:26 WEEKS, AND UNLIMITED WHAT?
05:21:32 UNLIMITED SICK PAY?
05:21:33 THERE IS NO CORPORATION IN AMERICA THAT HAS GOT THAT.
05:21:37 SO WE TALK ABOUT RUNNING THE CITY, LIKE A BUSINESSMAN, LIKE
05:21:42 PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, SHOW ME THAT.
05:21:44 SHOW ME WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITY OF
05:21:46 TAMPA.
05:21:48 AND I AM NOT SAYING HE DOESN'T DESERVE A RAISE.
05:21:51 BUT YOU CAN'T GIVE A RAISE AND FIVE WEEKS VACATION AND SICK
05:21:56 LEAVE.
05:21:57 AND I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE GETTING A RAISE.
05:22:00 I AM GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN.
05:22:01 IF YOU LOOK AT -- I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DO IT BUT I
05:22:05 GUARANTEE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIME OF PAY INCREASE, WHAT
05:22:11 CITY -- NOW MAYBE I AM WRONG -- A ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
05:22:18 GETS A RAISE AND THEN A MERIT RAISE IN THE SAME YEAR?
05:22:21 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR NOT.
05:22:23 I HAVE NEVER TALKED TO MS. GRIMES ABOUT THAT.
05:22:25 BUT I AM ASKING MYSELF, SHOULD I VOTE FOR THIS THE WAY IT
05:22:29 IS?
05:22:30 THE ANSWER IS NO.
05:22:31 BUT YOU ALL DO WHAT YOU WANT.
05:22:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:22:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:22:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES
05:22:39 COMING UP WHETHER IT TAKES INTO EFFECT RIGHT NOW, WHETHER WE
05:22:41 WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BRINGS UP A LOT OF
05:22:46 ISSUES, AND I KNOW WE ALWAYS PAY HIM A LOT OF DEFERENCE.
05:22:50 I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US WANT TO DO RIGHT BY OUR DEAR FRIEND
05:22:53 MR. SHELBY WHO DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB.
05:22:55 IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THIS CAN BE TABLED FOR A WEEK?
05:23:00 SO THAT WE CAN ASK PRIVATE QUESTIONS?
05:23:02 BECAUSE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO
05:23:06 ASK THAT MAY NOT -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY ARE IMPROPER BUT
05:23:12 THERE'S JUST FURTHER INQUIRIES, WHAT'S HE MAKING NOW, WAR
05:23:17 GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED CHANGES, IF ANY?
05:23:20 LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.
05:23:21 IF WE ARE GOING TO GIVE MR. SHELBY A RAISE, WHO ALL OF US
05:23:25 LIKE A LOT, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE A 7-ZERO VOTE.
05:23:28 THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
05:23:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:23:32 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO HIT A FEW POINTS.
05:23:34 I DON'T THINK MR. SHELBY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO 40 HOURS A
05:23:37 WEEK WORKING.
05:23:39 I SEE THAT HE WORKS WAY MORE THAN THAT, PROBABLY UP INTO THE
05:23:42 70, 80-HOUR RANGE.
05:23:44 I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH HIM LIKE AT 10:00 LAST NIGHT, I'M ON
05:23:48 THE PHONE WITH HIM SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AND I THINK YOU ALL
05:23:51 ARE THE SAME.
05:23:52 THE NEW WORKPLACE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN AN
05:23:55 OFFICE ALL DAY, ESPECIALLY NOW DURING COVID.
05:23:58 I DON'T CARE WHERE HE SITS AS LONG AS HE ANSWER IT IS PHONE.
05:24:01 AND THE ONLY TIME HE DOESN'T ANSWER THE PHONE IS WHEN HE'S
05:24:03 TALKING TO ONE OF YOU ALL.
05:24:07 I'M NUMBER 7 ON THE LIST.
05:24:08 [ LAUGHTER ]
05:24:09 BUT IN TERMS OF WORK ETHIC, I AM NOT AWARE THAT HE'S TAKEN
05:24:15 MORE THAN TWO WEEKS OF VACATION, BUT I KNOW THAT THE TIMES
05:24:18 THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN IN TAMPA, HE'S BEEN AVAILABLE
05:24:20 CONSTANTLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
05:24:22 SOMETIMES HE CALLS ME WHILE HE'S AWAY, AND ANYTIME I CALL
05:24:25 HIM HE PICKS UP THE PHONE.
05:24:26 AND HE'S ABLE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME.
05:24:28 I DID AN ANALYSIS -- I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON PAY IN THE LEGAL
05:24:33 INDUSTRY, BUT I LOOKED AT IT.
05:24:36 I HAVE TO SET PAY IN MY BUSINESS AND I HAVE LOOKED AT LAWYER
05:24:38 PAY BEFORE COMPARED TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
05:24:40 ALL OF THEM ARE PAID WAY TOO LOW.
05:24:43 BUT I SAID LAST WEEK HE SHOULD BE IN THE 160, 180 RANGE.
05:24:47 I THINK 155 IS TOO LOW.
05:24:49 IF ANYBODY LOOKS AT IT, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF
05:24:52 WHAT HE HAD BEFORE BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HE HASN'T HAD A RAISE
05:24:55 IN 15 YEARS OR MORE.
05:24:56 I THINK THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND PART OF WAS
05:25:00 CAUSED BY THE RECESSION, PART OF IT WAS CAUSED BY I THINK
05:25:03 PEOPLE PLAYED SOME POLITICAL MANEUVERS AND WE NEED TO BRING
05:25:06 EQUITY BACK TO ALL POSITIONS IN THE CITY.
05:25:09 WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES.
05:25:12 THEY WEREN'T PAID FAIRLY.
05:25:13 THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED AS WELL.
05:25:16 I KNOW THAT ADMINISTRATION IS COMMITTED TO TRYING TO DO
05:25:18 THAT. ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
05:25:21 THIS.
05:25:22 WAITING 15 YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH.
05:25:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO YOUR POINT THE ONLY TIME HE CUTS ME OFF
05:25:28 ON A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION IS WHEN ONE OF YOU ALL CALL.
05:25:30 COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:25:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LOST, MAN.
05:25:35 I AM WITH THE OTHER GUY.
05:25:36 I'M LOST.
05:25:37 THE MAN IS PAID THIS LONG, AND HE'S OUR ATTORNEY.
05:25:42 HE ANSWERS TO SEVEN GAYS.
05:25:44 SEVEN GUYS.
05:25:46 WE HAD A WORKSHOP.
05:25:47 AND REALLY, I WAS KIND OF TAKEN ABACK.
05:25:50 MR. CARLSON ASKED HIM A LOT OF PERSONAL QUESTIONS.
05:25:52 BUT THE MAN ANSWERED.
05:25:58 VACATION, YOU KNOW, DOING EXTRA WORK, THE MAN ANSWERED EVERY
05:26:03 QUESTION.
05:26:05 PERSONALLY.
05:26:10 THIS MAN, HE RUNS OUR HOUSE.
05:26:12 THIS IS COMPARABLE TO A DEPUTY CHIEF ATTORNEY.
05:26:16 >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
05:26:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. GRIMES, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE
05:26:22 SAYING.
05:26:23 I AM JUST SAYING FOR OUR HOUSE RIGHT HERE, HE'S OUR MAN AND
05:26:26 WHEN I SEE THE WORK THAT HE DOES.
05:26:29 WHETHER YOU DEGREE WITH THAT, I RESPECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
05:26:32 BUT I AM SAYING THIS.
05:26:33 THIS MAN ANSWERS TO SEVEN PEOPLE.
05:26:35 HE DEALS WITH EVERY DAY, EVERY NIGHT, LATE NIGHT HE'S
05:26:38 CALLING US, ALL SEVEN OF US.
05:26:40 SO IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S OUT WORKING 40 HOURS A WEEK.
05:26:43 SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK.
05:26:48 I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. VIERA IS SAYING.
05:26:52 HE DOESN'T GET VACATION, HE DIDN'T ASK WHEN HE FIRST CAME
05:26:58 IN.
05:26:58 SO TO ME AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, I'M READY TO MOVE, YOU
05:27:04 KNOW.
05:27:05 WE JUST HAD A NUMBER.
05:27:08 BUT 155 IS WAY TOO LOW FOR THIS MAN.
05:27:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
05:27:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOW?
05:27:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WRITE WAS GOING, COUNCILMAN
05:27:19 DINGFELDER.
05:27:19 IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
05:27:21 GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:27:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.
05:27:25 I DON'T WANT TO BE IN ANY WAY MISLEADING ANYONE BUT I THINK
05:27:30 FIVE WEEKS VACATION AND UNLIMITED SICK LEAVE AS CITY COUNCIL
05:27:34 ATTORNEY, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS NOT IN SESSION,
05:27:43 SHOULD BE WORKING AND SICK LEAVE, HR SHOULD DO AN ANALYSIS
05:27:48 TO SEE WHERE WE REALLY ARE.
05:27:50 NO ONE OF US IS AN EXPERT.
05:27:52 NONE.
05:27:54 SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TAKE AN HR, LET THEM MAKE A
05:27:58 COMPARATIVE STUDY OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS WORLD WITH
05:28:02 CITIES THE SIZE OF TAMPA THAT HAVE THEIR OWN CITY COUNCIL
05:28:04 ATTORNEY, SEE WHAT THE DEAL IS.
05:28:06 AND WHAT -- BUT THERE'S VERY FEW CITIES LIKE THE CITY OF
05:28:11 TAMPA.
05:28:13 WE RUN SO GOOD SO WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE A STRONG MAYOR SYSTEM
05:28:16 OF GOVERNMENT WHICH LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT WORKS BECAUSE
05:28:19 OF RESPONSIBILITY.
05:28:20 AND WHEN YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITY, YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE
05:28:25 FACTS.
05:28:25 AND THE FACTS ARE THAT'S WHY THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING SO
05:28:29 WELL.
05:28:32 THEY AREN'T COME HERE BECAUSE OF YOU AND I.
05:28:35 THEY COME BECAUSE THEY SEE THIS WORKS WITH YOU AND I AS THE
05:28:41 MAYOR, AND MOST EVER SOLVED BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE FIRST
05:28:47 PHASE OR SECOND PHASE.
05:28:48 THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
05:28:49 WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT AN ANALYSIS.
05:28:52 NOT THE WAY I HANDLE IT.
05:28:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:28:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:28:55 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
05:28:56 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
05:28:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:28:59 JUST TWO THINGS.
05:29:00 NUMBER ONE, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHOEVER SAID IT BEFORE.
05:29:04 I DON'T WANT HIM WORKING 40 HOURS A WEAK SITTING IN THIS
05:29:07 OFFICE NINE TO FIVE, BECAUSE QUESTION DO WE DETAIL HIM? WE
05:29:12 CALL HIM AT 7:00 AT NIGHT.
05:29:15 I'M A NIGHT OWL.
05:29:16 I BOTHER HIM AT NIGHT.
05:29:18 9:00, 10:00 AT NIGHT AND ON WEAK END.
05:29:21 SO IT'S SORT OF APPLES AND ORANGES.
05:29:23 BECAUSE THE REST OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS, THEY MIGHT BE --
05:29:30 THEY MIGHT BE WORKING A LOT OF TIME LIKE THAT, BUT I
05:29:33 WOULDN'T BE PRESUMPTUOUS AND CALL THEM LAKE THAT.
05:29:37 BUT AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID CORRECTLY, THIS IS OUR CITY
05:29:41 COUNCIL ATTORNEY, AND HE'S ON CALL 24/7, AND FRANKLY,
05:29:46 ESPECIALLY THIS PAST YEAR, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY HOURS HE'S
05:29:49 BEEN WORKING?
05:29:51 THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON A HUMOROUS NOTE IT'S
05:29:55 A GOOD THING WE ONLY SET ONE PERSON'S SALARY IN THIS ENTIRE
05:29:58 CITY GOVERNMENT OF 57,000 PEOPLE, BECAUSE HERE WE ARE AN
05:30:01 HOUR LATER STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE SHOULD GIVE THE
05:30:04 MAN A $20,000 RAISE.
05:30:06 THE FIRST REAL RAISE THAT HE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED IN THE LAST
05:30:09 15 YEARS.
05:30:10 SO WHATEVER THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR, I SAY LET'S GET ON
05:30:14 WITH IT, JOE.
05:30:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PROCEDURALLY WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
05:30:21 DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT IN ANY WAY.
05:30:23 >>> I AM GOING TO KEEP IT AS IS AS 155 AND THEN LOOK AT THE
05:30:28 FUTURE, WHAT IS IT, A 3% MERIT INCREASE AND GO WHEREVER
05:30:32 THERE.
05:30:32 BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE SET AT 155 BEGINNING WITH THE
05:30:38 BUDGET FISCAL YEAR STARTING OCTOBER 1st.
05:30:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IS THAT STILL
05:30:45 ACCEPTABLE TO YOU?
05:30:46 YOU WERE THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION.
05:30:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, AND I APOLOGIZE.
05:30:52 I THINK WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME PAGE, MR. CHAIRMAN,
05:30:58 MR. MANISCALCO.
05:30:58 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF THE OCTOBER 1st.
05:31:01 THAT'S THE ONLY THING.
05:31:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A BUDGET
05:31:06 AMENDMENT.
05:31:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY DO BUDGET AMENDMENT EVERY MONTH, I
05:31:10 MEAN EVERY TWO WEEKS THEY DO BUDGET AMENDMENT.
05:31:12 BUT THAT'S NOT BURDENSOME ON ANYBODY.
05:31:14 BUT IT DOES DEPRIVE THEM OF A QUARTER OF A YEAR'S SALARY
05:31:17 WHEN HE'S ALREADY BEEN DEPRIVED FOR 15 YEARS Y.DO WE ADD
05:31:21 INSULT TO INJURY?
05:31:23 >> ALL RIGHT.
05:31:24 SO WHAT IF I CHANGE THE MOTION TO BEGINNING -- TIME CARD FOR
05:31:29 NEXT PAY PERIOD HAS ALREADY BEEN PROCESSED I THINK FOR NEXT
05:31:32 FRIDAY.
05:31:32 SO IT WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING PAY PERIOD, WHICH LET ME GET IS
05:31:35 THE DATES.
05:31:37 >>BILL CARLSON: DOESN'T AN EMPLOYEE AUTOMATICALLY GET THAT
05:31:46 COST OF LIVING INCREASING?
05:31:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S COLA BUT HE HASN'T RECEIVED A
05:31:52 MERIT.
05:31:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT PAY PERIOD IS AFTER IS APRIL
05:31:56 23rd SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION THE SALARY BE ADJUSTED TO
05:31:59 $155,000 BEGINNING WITH THE APRIL 23rd PAY PERIOD WHICH
05:32:02 IS TIME CARD APPROVAL AND ALL THAT STUFF,.
05:32:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND ANY ASSOCIATED RESOLUTION, WHAT DO
05:32:11 THEY CALL IT, THE BUDGET RESOLUTION THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO
05:32:14 DO.
05:32:15 >>LUIS VIERA: AND SO I WANT TO CLARIFY.
05:32:19 SO THIS IS A REQUEST ON OUR PART AND TO BE WORKED OUT WITH
05:32:22 BE THE ADMINISTRATION, OR IS IT SELF-EXECUTING?
05:32:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK UNDER THE CHARTER IT'S
05:32:28 SELF-EXECUTING.
05:32:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PER THE CHARTER WE SET THE SALARY, OUR
05:32:32 ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.
05:32:35 CITY COUNCIL DOES.
05:32:36 >>GINA GRIMES: I THINK YOU STILL HAVE TO DO A BUDGET
05:32:38 AMENDMENT.
05:32:40 >> RIGHT.
05:32:41 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
05:32:42 I THINK WE OUGHT TO TABLE THIS FOR A WEEK.
05:32:45 THAT'S MY OPINION.
05:32:45 BUT I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST THE SALARY INCREASE FOR MR.
05:32:48 SHELBY.
05:32:49 I THINK THERE'S A RIGHT WAY TO DO IT AND NOT A RIGHT WAY TO
05:32:53 DO IT, RIGHT?
05:32:54 I STILL STAND BY THAT.
05:32:55 BUT I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST MR. SHELBY.
05:32:57 I JUST, YOU KNOW, HEAR A COUNCILMEMBER OR TWO SAY THAT THEY
05:33:01 NEED MORE INFORMATION.
05:33:02 AND I DON'T WANT US TO ROLL AHEAD AND NOT HAVE A 7 TO ZERO
05:33:07 VOTE.
05:33:08 I WAS TRYING TO DO THIS AS A COURTESY.
05:33:11 SO MY OBJECTIONS STAND BUT AGAIN I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE
05:33:14 AGAINST MR. SHELBY.
05:33:15 THANK YOU.
05:33:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HEARD THE AMENDMENT MADE BY COUNCILMAN
05:33:18 MANISCALCO.
05:33:19 ARE YOU STILL IN FAVOR?
05:33:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
05:33:20 THANK YOU FOR THE AMENDMENT.
05:33:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:33:23 WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:33:25 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
05:33:27 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
05:33:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:33:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO?
05:33:37 I DIDN'T HEAR.
05:33:38 COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID NO?
05:33:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T GO 155.
05:33:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER YES.
05:33:54 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH MR. GUDES BUT I AM GOING TO
05:33:56 SAY YES ANYWAY.
05:33:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
05:34:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:34:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND MIRANDA VOTING
05:34:03 NO.
05:34:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO MAKE IT CLEAR IT'S JUST A POINT OF
05:34:10 PRINCIPLE FOR ME.
05:34:11 I RESPECT MR. SHELBY AND THE WORK HE DOES.
05:34:14 HE STILL THINK IT'S TAKE LOW.
05:34:16 THAT'S JUST THE WAY.
05:34:17 I RESERVE MY COMMENTS ON THAT.
05:34:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN REVISIT IN THE FUTURE.
05:34:21 IT'S ALWAYS AN OPEN DISCUSSION BUT I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
05:34:24 THAT'S IT FOR ME.
05:34:25 CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
05:34:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED.
05:34:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO.
05:34:32 SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
05:34:33 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:34:35 AYE.
05:34:35 ALL RIGHT.
05:34:35 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
05:34:36 THANK YOU.
05:36:15 (CITY COUNCIL MEETING ADJOURNED)
05:36:16
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