TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 13, 2021
6:00 P.M.
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[ROLL CALL]
18:05:53 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
18:05:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MR. SHELBY.
18:05:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC.
MAY 13, 2021.
A QUASI-JUDICIAL AND OTHER LAND USE RELATED MATTERS OF
THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AHEAD IN THE COVID-19 STATE OF
EMERGENCY AND BEING CONDUCTED LIVE WITH AN IN-PERSON
QUORUM LIVE IN CITY CHAMBERS AS YOU HEARD FROM THE
CLERK.
WITH COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE
ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIA VIDEO TELECONFERENCING AS
COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT AND ADOPTED BY
RESOLUTION 2020-225 AND AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER
2020-490.
TONIGHT, THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW THIS ON SPECTRUM 640
AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT
TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD.
NOW THERE ARE WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE
HEARINGS.
THEY CAN PARTICIPATE REMOTELY THROUGH CMT AND THEY MUST
PREREGISTER TO DO SO.
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE, REREGISTER AT
TAMPA.GOV/QUASI, SPELLED Q-U-A-S-I.
THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE THERE.
AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS BESIDE REREGISTERING, YOU
MUST USE A SPECIFIC MEDIA DEVICE SUCH AS A TABLET OR
COMPUTER EQUIPED WITH A CAMERA THAT WILL ENABLE YOU BE
TO SEEN BY CAMERA AND HEARD BY AUDIO.
CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AS THEY
WILL NOT ALLOW TO YOU SHARE YOUR CAMERA WHEN CONNECTED.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
AGAIN, ALL THOSE FORMS AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE
ON THE TAMPA.GOV/QUASI WEB SITE.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SEND IN COMMENTS
IN ADVANCE VIA E-MAIL.
AND THERE ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO SEND IN COMMENTS
VIA U.S. MAIL.
ALSO, APPLICANTS AND INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WHO WISH TO APPEAR IN PERSON USING CMT OR DO NOT HAVE
ACCESS TO A COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE OR UNABLE TO
PARTICIPATE VIA CMT, THEY MAY UTILIZE THE CMT
FACILITIES THAT ARE BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC
TONIGHT BY THE CITY OF TAMPA HERE AT OLD CITY HALL, 350
E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
PLEASE NOTE, THAT USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.
TO READ THE COMMENTS DELIVERED AND RECEIVED BY MAIL AND
E-MAIL, THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO BE ACCESSED AT
TAMPA.GOV/AGENDAS.
AGAIN, THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S
WEB SITE.
WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR E-MAIL HAVE BEEN
DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE PRESERVED IN
THE PERMANENT RECORD OF THE MEETING AND ALL PUBLIC
COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR CMT WILL AFFORD EQUAL
CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE --
THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THE GO TO MEETING PLATFORM ON
THE CITY'S REGISTRATION.
THERE IS A CHAT FUNCTION AND A REMINDER THAT IS ONLY
FOR TECHNICAL ISSUES.
PLEASE BE REMINDED, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE PUBLIC
THAT THE CHAT FUNCTION IS NOT TO BE USED TO COMMUNICATE
TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND LIKEWISE, COUNCIL, PLEASE BE REMINDED OF ANY
OBLIGATION IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION
DURING THE HEARING PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM PUBLICLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:10:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
A MEMO OF COUNCILMAN CITRO'S ABSENCE.
18:10:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
18:10:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY OPPOSED?
MR. SHELBY, GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
ANY HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS?
18:10:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE ARE SOME HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.
MR. MANASSE IS HERE TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
18:10:34 >>RYAN MANASSE:
ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REQUESTING A
CONTINUANCE, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE TO
OCTOBER 14 AT 6 P.M.
STEPHEN MICHELINI IS DOWNSTAIRS.
18:10:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
SEND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:11:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, THIS IS MAY.
THAT IS FIVE MONTHS OUT.
AND THE QUESTION I HAVE, I GUESS, FOR MR. MICHELINI IS
DOES HE INTEND TO ADVERTISE THAT BECAUSE JUST COUNCIL
-- YOU AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT NORMALLY FOR
CONTINUANCES THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL MAILING OR POSTING
WITH REGARD TO THE CONTINUED STATE.
SO THE ONLY WAY THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW WOULD BE TO
BE AWARE THAT OCTOBER 14 AT 6 P.M. IS THE DATE BEING
ASKED AND SET TONIGHT IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
MR. MICHELINI IS PRESENT.
18:11:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MICHELINI?
18:11:37 >> YES, SIR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM RENOTICING.
THAT DATE IS KIND OF FAR OFF AND IT WOULD BE
APPROPRIATE FOR US TO RENOTICE.
18:11:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IT IS MY MOTION.
REMOVE.
18:11:53 >> THANK YOU.
18:11:55 >>RYAN MANASSE:
RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT AND
COORDINATION.
18:11:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WAS THERE A VOTE?
18:12:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THERE WAS A VOTE.
YOU PREFER A ROLL CALL VOTE.
18:12:07 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
18:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
18:12:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
18:12:13 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
18:12:14 >>CLERK:
CITRO.
18:12:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
18:12:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
18:12:21 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
18:12:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANASSE.
18:12:33 >>RYAN MANASSE:
ITEM NUMBER 4 FILE NO. REZ--21-06
CONTINUED TO -- [INAUDIBLE] -- AND CHECKING TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE NOT GOING OVER OUR LIMIT.
18:12:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
18:12:51 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
18:12:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
18:12:54 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
18:12:58 >>CLERK:
CITRO.
18:13:13 >> ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NO. REZ-21-25 CANNOT BE HEARD.
18:13:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ROLL CALL.
18:13:17 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
18:13:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
18:13:20 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
18:13:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
18:13:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
18:13:30 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
18:13:33 >>RYAN MANASSE:
ITEM NUMBER 8 AND 9 ARE MORE
INFORMATIONAL.
A REZONING ALONG WITH A DRI.
THEY NEED TO BE HEARD TOGETHER AND VOTED SEPARATELY,
AND THE REZONING WILL HAVE TO BE VOTED FOR FIRST.
I NEED TO MAKE THAT APPARENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
AGENDA AND STAFF NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN BEFORE WE START
OUR ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:13:54 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
MOTION TO MOVE THE QUASI HEARING.
18:13:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
18:14:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
18:14:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:14:13 >>CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
18:14:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OUR SCREENS ARE NOT -- OUR SCREENS
ARE NOT UP.
THERE WE GO.
18:14:24 >>CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
18:14:28 >> I DO.
18:14:35 >>CLERK:
THANK YOU.
18:14:37 >>ZANE HUSAIN:
HI THERE, ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
FILE NO. REZ-20-83.
THE APPLICANT IS MICHELLE LAMONT.
1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE A REZONING FROM RS-60
SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
I WILL REFER OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS
TIME.
18:15:07 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
DO I HAVE PERMISSION TO SEE MY SCREEN.
18:15:19 >> COUNCIL, AM I BEING HEARD?
I AM MICHELLE LAMONT AND OWNER OF 1909 --
18:15:25 >> MISS LAMONT, I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE ASKED JENNIFER
MALONE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:15:33 >> I AM SORRY.
18:15:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
THANK YOU.
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT GROWN FOR FILE NO.
REZ-20-83.
A SINGLE-FAMILY WITHIN A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
NEIGHBORHOOD BUT WE HAVE A SCHOOL, THE TRINITY SCHOOL
FOR THE CHILDREN -- FOR CHILDREN IN THE VICINITY AND TO
THE NORTH IS A HOSPITAL.
THAT LAND USE PATTERN IS PRESENT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE
MAP.
THE ORANGE COVER IS THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THAT SCHOOL IS UNDER COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, WHICH IS
THE PINK COLOR.
AND THEN THE -- THE BLUE IS THE PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC AT
THE HOSPITAL.
I PRINTED OUT ON THE AERIAL.
THE RED IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
IT IS NOT PRESENT ON THE MAP THAT ARMENIA AVENUE IS
WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL BUSINESSES ALONG ARMENIA
AVENUE.
THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER
MILE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON NORTH ARMENIA.
IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE, AND THE
CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS AL LOPEZ PARK TWO
MILES WEST OF THE SITE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT
WITH THE PLAN.
THE PORTION OF ERNA DRIVE AND WEST ELLIS HAVE .363
DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED RESIDENCES FOR THE SITE OF 4.87, WHICH IS WELL
BELOW WHAT IS CONSIDERED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THIS REQUEST SUPPORTS THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE PLAN
WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING
POPULATION ESPECIALLY ON THOSE VACANT OR UNREALIZED
SITE AND COMPATIBLE INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE AREA
THAT IS PLANNED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF UP TO
10 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE
FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
18:17:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
MR. HUSAIN.
18:17:40 >>ZANE HUSAIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MAY I PLEASE HAVE THE SCREEN, PLEASE.
SEE IF I CAN GET THIS.
WONDERFUL.
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
ZANE HUSAIN.
PROPERTY IS 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE.
NO WAIVERS REQUESTED.
THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO REZONE 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE
FROM RS-60 TO PD FOR TWO DETACHED RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THE PROPERTY CONTAINS 17,772.20 SQUARE FEET.
MINIMUM LOT AREA FOR THE RS-60 ZONING DISTRICT IS 6,000
SQUARE FEET AND BOTH PROPOSED LOTS PARCEL CONTAINS
10602 SQUARE FEET AND PARCEL TWO 7308 SQUARE FEET MEETS
THIS REQUIREMENT.
THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH FOR ZONING WIDTH IS 60 FEET.
PARCEL ONE MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT AND PARCEL TWO DOES
NOT MEET THIS REQUIREMENT AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN
APPROVAL THROUGH A PD AT THIS TIME.
THE APPLICATION REQUEST FOR THE LOT AS CONFIGURED TO BE
CONSTRUCTED WITH ONE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE
ON EACH LOT.
PARCEL ONE HAS AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DETACHED
STRUCTURE WHICH WILL REMAIN.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WISH HURTS OF WELLS
PARK SUBDIVISION THAT WAS PLATTED IN 1939.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE WEST
ERNA DRIVE, WEST DALLAS AVENUE INTERSECTION.
THE PROPOSED PD SETBACKS FOR PARCEL ONE IS TO THE
NORTH, 25 FEET, SOUTH, 25 FEET, EAST, 7 FEET, AND WEST
7 FEET.
VEHICULAR -- VEHICULAR ACCESS MUST HAVE A SETBACK OF 10
FEET FOR TWO CARS AND 18 FEET FOR ONE CAR.
PARCEL TWO, TO THE NORTH, 25 FEET SETBACK.
SOUTH, 25-FEET SETBACK.
EAST, 7 FEET.
AND WEST 7 FEET.
THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS FOR PARCEL ONE AND TWO
NEED TO BE LABELED ON THE SITE PLAN ON THE SITE DATA
TABLE.
ELEVATION BUILDING HEIGHT OF 20 FEET.
THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT RS-60
TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED DWELLINGS ON ALL SIDES.
THE WISH HART PLAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1939, THE
OVERALL PLAT EXTENDS FROM DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
BOULEVARD NORTH TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
WEST TO PARTS AND EAST TO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND
NEWPORT AVENUE.
THE SUBJECT APPLICATION LOOK TO SPLIT THE LOT OF RECORD
TO CREATE TWO BUILDABLE LOTS.
THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES -- INCLUDED 245
TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
THREE OR 1% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS AND 242 OR 99% HAVE BEEN
DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET FOR GREATER.
PURSUANT TO A REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN, THE SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 11 TOTAL ZONING
LOTS, 11 OR 100% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH
A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND ZERO HAVE BEEN
DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
THE 1900 BLOCK OF WEST ERNA DRIVE CONTAINS 18 TOTAL
ZONING LOTS, 18 OR 100% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN
DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND ZERO
HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
NO LOTS OF SUBJECT -- OF SUBJECT -- OF THE SUBJECT
BLOCK HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR
LESS.
STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 99% OF THE LOTS IN THIS
STUDY, 100% OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK AND 100% OF THE BLOCK
FACE AND 1900 BLOCK OF WEST ERNA DRIVE ARE 60 FEET FOR
GREATER IN WIDTH.
STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED RECON FIGS FIGURE RATION OF
THE PROPOSED LOT TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL STUDY AREA BLOCK AND
BLOCK FACE.
GO TO MY NEXT SITE HERE, YOU WILL SEE ON THE
CONFIGURING MAP THAT THIS IS INCONSISTENT IF YOU LOOK
AT THE BLACK AREA RIGHT HERE AROUND THE SITE.
IN THE AREA THERE ARE NO OTHER -- THERE ARE NO OTHER
LOTS LIKE THIS.
AS YOU SEE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE MAP, THERE ARE NO
HISTORIC MARKS -- LANDMARKS AROUND THE AREA AND YOU SEE
THE SITE PLAN HERE.
LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS TO THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE THE
EXISTING STRUCTURE AND TO THE LEFT OF THE ELEVATIONS
YOU SEE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
PICTURES THE SITE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PICTURE,
YOU SEE THE SITE ITSELF OR THE STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY
RESIDING.
YOU SEE EAST SIDE AND ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TO
THE SOUTH.
TO THE LEFT OF THE SITE, YOU SEE THE INTERSECTION OR
WEST DALLAS.
AND TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, YOU SEE WEST DALLAS
COMING NORTH TO SOUTH.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED
THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
PLEASE REFERENCE FIND BIGGS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
RELATING TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE
IMMEDIATE AREA.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO
APPROVE THE APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE
SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE
REVISION SHEET.
THANK YOU.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
18:24:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
THE APPLICANT, MISS LAMONT.
18:24:12 >> COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
18:24:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOOD EVENING.
18:24:20 >> I WANT TO SIMPLY STATE THAT IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE
HERE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THIS PROPERTY IS
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR A FEW
YEARS, AND SOMETHING MY BROTHER STARTED.
WE ARE TRYING TO FINISH IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, HE PASSED AWAY EARLY.
AND WE HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE WELLS WOOD AREA SINCE
THE EARLY '80S.
THE PROPERTY MEANS A LOT.
I KNOW IT IS A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY AS WE SEE, AND WE
WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SINGLE-STORY
1800-SQUARE-FOOT HOME WITH A DOUBLE CAR GARAGE AND
DESIGN WITH DECORATIVE BRICK AND STUCCO.
THE BUILDING HEIGHT WILL BE 20 FEET.
THERE ARE SOME TREES LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD
BE RELOCATED AND TRANSPLANTED.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY EIGHT TREES, SEVEN PALMS AND A
MAGNOLIA.
NONE WILL BE REMOVED.
AND ALSO WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND
WE ARE LOOKING TO PUT 142 FEET OF SIDEWALK ON ERNA
DRIVE AND ALSO 126 FEET OF SIDEWALK ON DALLAS AVENUE.
RESPECTFULLY, I AM ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO THIS ZONING.
18:25:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:25:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
18:25:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:25:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MISS LAMONT, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, BUT
MAYBE YOU CAN JUST TELL ME QUICKER THAN I CAN FIND IT.
THE -- IF YOU GOT THE APPROVAL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE
GOING TO KEEP ONE OF THE HOUSES, IS THAT CORRECT, THE
ONE TO THE LEFT?
18:26:16 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:26:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND THEN THE ONE TO THE RIGHT, YOU
ARE GOING TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE.
HOW -- WHAT SORT OF SEPARATION WOULD YOU BE HAVING
BETWEEN THE TWO -- THE TWO HOMES?
IN OTHER WORDS, SOMETIMES WE GET THESE AND THE -- THE
LEFT SIDE, THE OLD HOUSE, IS ALREADY VERY, VERY CLOSE
TO THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE SPLIT AND
THEN IT SORT OF LOOKS AND FEELS KIND OF STRANGE.
WHAT IS YOUR SITUATION IN THAT REGARD?
18:26:52 >> WE HAVE SEVEN FEET ON EACH -- FROM EACH DWELLING TO
THE PROPERTY LINE SO A TOTAL OF 14 FEET BETWEEN
DWELLINGS.
18:27:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THAT IS CODE.
THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION OTHERWISE IT APPEARS THAT THE
WHOLE REASON THEIR HAVING TO DO THE PD IS BECAUSE YOU
ARE TWO FEET -- YOU ARE TWO FEET OFF OF THE REQUIRED 60
FEET.
YOU ARE AT 58 FEET?
18:27:22 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:27:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND STAFF, THAT IS YOUR
UNDERSTANDING?
18:27:31 >>ZANE HUSAIN:
YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
18:27:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, BOTH.
18:27:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND WHAT ELSE?
ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY DOWNSTAIRS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
18:27:44 >> THIS IS JANE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
18:27:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DO WE HAVE EVERYBODY?
18:27:53 >>CLERK:
NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
18:27:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:27:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
18:27:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
18:28:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
MR. VIERA, DO YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:28:11 >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENT FOR
FIRST READING OF 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE FROM RS-60 TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
I FIND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO
PROVIDE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AND CITY CODE.
18:28:40 >> SECOND.
18:28:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
18:28:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
QUESTION ON THE VOTE.
AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
ARE VERY SENSITIVE AND TICKLISH ABOUT THIS, QUOTE, LOT
SPLIT AND REQUIRED 60 FEET TO 58 FEET.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WAS DULY NOTICED AND ADVERTISED
WITH A SIGN OUT FRONT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HERE AND DON'T
BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM THEM IN WRITING.
AS I LOOK AROUND, THE OTHER CONCERN I NORMALLY WOULD
HAVE IN ADDITION TO NEIGHBORHOOD OBJECTION IS
PRECEDENT.
AS I LOOK AROUND IN THE SURROUNDING BLOCKS ON HER SIDE,
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF
OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL LOT SPLITS ON THE NORTHERN
SEGMENT TOWARD THE SOUTH, THERE IS QUITE A FEW.
QUITE A FEW LARGER LOTS AND WE MIGHT BE SEEING THOSE
DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I GUESS WE WILL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:29:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
18:29:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
18:29:54 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
18:29:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
18:29:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
18:29:58 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
18:30:03 >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITRO BEING
ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION JUNE 3 AT 9:30 A.M.
18:30:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
18:30:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SHE NEEDED TO MAKE CHANGES, WORK
WITH STAFF TO MAKE.
SHE IS AWARE OF THAT?
GUDES MR. MANASSE.
18:30:26 >>RYAN MANASSE:
YES, SHE HAS A STAFF REPORT WITH THE
REVISION SHEET AND MICHELLE IS HERE TO MAKE THE
REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND SHE WILL
CONTACT ME.
18:30:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES, ITEM 2.
18:30:42 >>RYAN MANASSE:
RYAN MANASSE, ITEM NUMBER 2 IS FILE
NO. REZ-21-04.
REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM 4456 AND 4467 WEST GANDY
BOULEVARD FROM CI TO PD MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
I WILL REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLEASE
RETURN TO ME AFTER.
18:31:01 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
FILE NO. REZ-21-04.
THERE IS A TRANSIT SPOT 400 FEET EAST OF THE SUBJECT
SITE AND IN EVACUATION ZONE A AND IN THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA.
THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE.
RETENTION POND TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A MULTIFAMILY
DEVELOPMENT.
TO THE SOUTH IS STRICT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND A
PARKING LOT.
THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES TO THE NORTH.
GANDY BOULEVARD IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH AND MANHATTAN
AVENUE IS LOCATED TO THE EAST.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED URBAN USED MIX 60.
TO THE NORTH COMMUNITY MIXED.
AND ORANGE IS RESIDENTIAL-10, THE SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED AREA.
THE BROWN COLOR IS THE RESIDENTIAL-35 THAT IS THE
MULTIFAMILY THAT I POINTED OUT EARLIER.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE URBAN MIXED USE-60 PATTERN IS
PRESENT ALONG GANDY BOULEVARD AS WELL.
SO THE SUBJECT SITE IS PROPOSING THE MULTIFAMILY AS
RYAN STATED AND BE CONSIDERED FOR MAXIMUM OF 443
DWELLING UNITS.
UP TO 411 DWELLING UNITS WITH THE BONUS AND THE
APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 313 DWELLING UNITS BELOW THE
MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR THE LAND USE
DESIGNATION.
THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA FOR A COMMITMENT TO MEET MITIGATION PAYMENTS WITH
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH
GENERAL NOTE NUMBER 5 ON THE SITE PLAN.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THAT THE
ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH I AM SURE RYAN WILL
GO INTO MORE FOR HIS REPORT.
WE FOUND THAT THE ORIENTATION PROVIDED SENSITIVITY TO
THAT SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROVIDED SOME PEDESTRIAN ACCESS
AND SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS AS WELL FOR THE RESIDENTS OF
THIS PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
SO OVERALL, IT WAS -- IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
INTENSITY AND DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE LAND USE
DESIGNATION YOU ARE BANAL MIXED USE 60 AND COMPATIBLE
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND DEVELOPMENT
ANTICIPATED THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND
USE MAP.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL BE AVAILABLE
FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:33:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
MR. MANASSE.
18:33:40 >>RYAN MANASSE:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
IF YOU MAY SHARE MY SCREEN.
AND SEE MY TITLE.
FILE NO. REZ-21-04 -- RYAN MANASSE WITH LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS REQUESTED TO REZONE FROM CI TO
PD FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
THE WAIVERS ON SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU.
SEVEN PROPOSED.
22-83.
THE FIRST ONE 15.
SECOND BEING 14 AND 7.
THESE WAIVERS ARE COMING FROM TWO PARTS, TRANSPORTATION
AS WELL AS NATURAL RESOURCES.
JUST TO POINT OUT A FEW OF THEM.
I KNOW THEY ARE ON SCREEN, AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN YOUR
STAFF REPORTS BUT A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED PARKING
SPACES.
ALSO THE -- TO ALLOW THE LOADING SPACE IN LIEU FOR
WAIVER NUMBER ONE, REDUCTION IN THE LOADING BERTHS, AND
RETAIN LESS THAN 40% OF EXISTING TREES AND THE TREE
TRUST FUND AND -- AND REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM GREEN
SPACE REQUIREMENT AND YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE THERE.
ALSO, THERE IS A REDUCTION REQUEST FOR THE BUFFER ALONG
OLD KELLER AVENUE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PETITIONER AT 4465 AND 4467
WEST GANDY BOULEVARD TO REZONE PI TO PD TO CONSTRUCT
THE MULTIFAMILY 2452-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING.
LOCATED ONE LOT WEST OF SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE
INTERSECTION.
THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE
NORTH AND RS-60.
SOUTH BY CI, AND EAST BY COMMERCIAL USES IN THE PD AND
CI ZONING DISTRICT AND WEST BY OFFICE USES IN THE RO-1
AND RESIDENTIAL IN THE RM-24.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS NORTH, 80 FEET.
AND THERE IS -- I PUT A NOTE ON HERE.
THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISED IN OUR REVISION SHEET AS WELL
FEW TO THE PORTE COCHERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
PROPOSED STRUCTURE, GOING ALMOST ZERO TO THE PROPERTY
LINE TO THE NORTH.
THAT SETBACK WE ARE REQUESTING LABELED AT ZERO.
SOUTH, 10 FEET.
EAST, 5 FOOT.
AND WEST, 10 FEET.
THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 60 FEET, FOUR STORIES
AND PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND 437 PARKING
SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 394 ARE BEING PROVIDED WHICH IS
10% REDUCTION AND ASSOCIATED WAIVER THAT IS PRESENTED
IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL.
VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SURFACE PARKING LOT WITH A
CIRCULAR DRIVE AND THREE ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS AT
THE SOUTH END OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
JENNIFER DID A GREAT JOB POINTING OUT THE DIRECTION OF
THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN RED AND THERE
ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE LOCAL OR NATIONAL
1,000-FOOT BUFFER WE TRY TO LOCATE WITHIN THIS AERIAL
MAP AND PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH.
TO THE EAST, THERE IS THAT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
TO THE WEST AS WELL AS THAT OFFICE AND RS-60 ZONING
DISTRICT WHERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE LOCATED.
THE SITE PLAN -- THE BUILDING OUTLINE WILL SHOW YOU
HERE TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
I AM TRYING TO ROLL MY CURSOR OVER IT.
HERE IS THAT CIRCULAR DRIVE THAT IS OUTLINED ON
OAKELLAR AND TO REFERENCE THE ZERO-FOOT SETBACK THE
PORTE COCHERE ON THE SITE PLAN WANT THAT SETBACK TO BE
REDUCED NICK OVER 36 INCHES NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT AS A
SETBACK.
THE OTHER ACCESS ON OAKELLAR AND THREE ACCESS POINTS TO
THE SOUTH.
AND HERE IS THE LARGE SURFACE PARKING LOT BEING
REQUIRED FOR -- PROVIDED FOR THE REQUIRED PARKING.
A BLOCK FORMATION BUILDING WITH A COURTYARD IN THE
MIDDLE AND LAP POOLS AND SUCH IN THE CENTER OF THE
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
THE ELEVATION PROVIDED ARE ALSO FRONT, BUT THEY ALSO
SHOW THE DIRECTIONS TO THE WEST, THE RIGHT END AND THE
LEFT END.
AND THEN JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
A LARGER SITE.
SO FORGIVE ME FOR USING THE AERIAL MORE.
IT IS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE LOCATION IS.
A LARGE STRIP CENTER WHERE THE SUBJECT SITE IS AND GOES
ACROSS TO THE WEST TO THE EAST.
HERE IS THAT RETENTION POND THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW ON
THE AERIAL, AND THIS STREET DIRECTLY TO THE EAST AND
THE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET THERE.
THE LEFT PICTURE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.
THAT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
CENTER IS THE COMMERCIAL AND PICTURE TO THE RIGHT IS
THE REAR OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE
DEMOLISHED IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
COMPLIANCE STAFF FIND THE PETITION INCONSISTENT WITH
THE CITY OF TAMPA REGULATIONS AND LOOK FOR FINDINGS
FROM TRANSPORTATION FOR WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED SHOULD
IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT, AS WELL AS THE
APPLICATION.
THERE ARE FURTHER -- SORRY, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO
THE SITE PLAN REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
AS SUCH, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
MAY HAVE, AND THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION.
18:39:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:39:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
TO TRANSPORTATION.
I SEE JONATHAN'S SMILING FACE.
18:39:15 >> YES, SIR.
18:39:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HEY, JONATHAN.
GOOD EVENING.
18:39:20 >>JONATHAN SCOTT:
GOOD EVENING.
18:39:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT ACCESS TO
THIS PROPERTY?
IS IT 300 AND SOMETHING UNITS.
343, IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
313 -- 313 UNIT.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT ACCESS IN TERMS OF -- TO GANDY
AND/OR TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH AND
WHAT IS THE PROPOSED ACCESS.
18:39:53 >>JONATHAN SCOTT:
JONATHAN SCOTT, CITY OF TAMPA,
TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING.
THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS ACCESS TO OAKELLAR AND GOES
INTO THAT ALLEY.
AND I GUESS IT HAS CROSS-ACCESS, YOU CAN GO OVER TO THE
GANDY, OF COURSE.
AND THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THEY ARE GOING TO ACCESS
OAKELLAR AND THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE ALLEY AS WELL
TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
OR ACTUALLY IT IS TO THE SOUTH, I SHOULD SAY -- NO, TO
THE EAST.
18:40:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO ALL --
18:40:30 >> ACCESS WELL TO THE SOUTH AS WELL.
18:40:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO HAS THERE BEEN A TRANSPORTATION
STUDY DONE IN TERMS OF COMPARING THE -- IT LOOKS LIKE
THAT STRIP MALL HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN -- OR AT LEAST
PARTIALLY CLOSED DOWN FOR A WHILE.
HAS THERE BEEN A STUDY COMPARING THE EXISTING TRAFFIC
COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT GO THROUGH
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH?
18:40:55 >> YES.
THEY DID DO A COMPARISON.
NOW CONSIDERED A NET DECREASE IN OVERALL TRAFFIC THE
WAY WE LOOK AT IT.
WE LOOK AT IT BASED ON THE I.T.E., INTERNATIONAL
TRANSPORTATION OF ENGINEER TRIPS, SO THE EXISTING USE
OF THE STRIP CENTER TO THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY USE HAS
ABOUT 4,000 TRIPS PER DAY YES.
AND THAT IS A NET DECREASE.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND TRAFFIC MEMO, THE STATE IMPACT
REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND LESS TRAFFIC.
18:41:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THERE IS NO ACTUAL COUNTS OR
ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, RUBBER -- I GUESS THEY USED TO DO
THE RUBBER THING IN THE ROAD.
NO COUNTS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE EXISTING FLOW IS TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AS COMPARED TO WHAT THE PROPOSED FLOW
MIGHT BE?
18:41:51 >>JONATHAN SCOTT:
NO, THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THAT
AND BASED ON ITE CALCULATIONS.
18:41:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THE TRIP CALCULATIONS ARE BASED ON
THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT IS THERE, NOT NECESSARILY HOW
IT HAS BEEN USED IN RECENT YEARS OR NOT USED IN RECENT
YEARS.
JUST THE AMOUNT.
18:42:08 >>JONATHAN SCOTT:
THAT'S CORRECT.
I WILL BE ON STANDBY.
18:42:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYBODY ELSE?
WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
18:42:33 >> JOHN LUM, 2811 BAY POINTE CIRCLE, 33611.
I AM PUTTING ON THE ELMO A PICTURE OF WHAT THE SITE
LOOKED LIKE 25 YEARS AGO WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED
ON THIS SITE.
18:42:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN, SIR?
18:42:46 >> YES, I HAVE BEEN SWORN, SIR.
YOU CAN SEE -- ALL THE SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENTS WATCHED
THIS THING GET BUILT, AND 180,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL
WAS BUILT HERE.
KASH AND KARRY, THE ORIGINAL, THEY FAILED, WINN-DIXIE,
SONIC DRIVE-THRUS, ROLLER SKATES, YOU FIT GYMS ON AND
ON.
THE AMOUNT OF RETAILERS THAT HAVE BEEN BACK HERE AND
THEY ALL FAILED.
THE BREWERY THERE RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN STRUGGLING.
THE THREE RESIDENTS THERE ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE IS A
BEAUTY SHOP, A NAIL SALON.
THEY ARE PAYING ABOUT $10 A FOOT RENT WHICH IS WAY, WAY
BELOW MARKET.
AND WE HAVE A NICE MASSAGE PARLOR WITH HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THOSE THINGS
AND IT IS VERY SUCCESSFUL, OTHERWISE NOT A SUCCESSFUL
PLAZA.
THE CHURCH OF THE OLD WINN-DIXIE SITE AND NOT A RETAIL
USE EITHER.
WE FEEL THAT IT IS A GREAT ADAPTIVE REUSE DEVELOPMENT
OPPORTUNITY.
OUR GOAL HERE IS TO DO SOME MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FOR OUR HOMETOWN HEROES.
I DON'T THINK THEY EVER SEEN A 66% PROJECT LIKE THIS
WHERE 66% OF THE -- OF THE APARTMENTS WILL BE EITHER
MICRO UNITS OR STUDIOS.
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND I SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE
THAT DEVELOPERS DON'T USUALLY DO THIS MUCH OF A -- YOU
KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING CENTRIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE
HERE TO DO THAT.
AND WE HOPE THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IN 100 YEARS
FROM NOW WE WILL PROBABLY BUILD IT OUT OF CONCRETE
BLOCK, THESE WILL STILL BE HERE FOR FOLKS WHO NO LONGER
CAN AFFORD HOUSING IN SOUTH TAMPA, FOLKS MAKING BETWEEN
$39,000, $45,000 A YEAR, TEACHERS, FIREMEN, FIRST
RESPONDERS.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
18:44:47 >> HELLO, MY NAME IS BOB GREIS, JOHN LUM'S PARTNER, A
MEMBER OF THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY AND A PHILANTHROPIST.
MANY OF MY EMPLOYEES TELL ME THEY ARE MOVING TO
PINELLAS COUNTY BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT AFFORD TO LIVE
HERE.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT BUILDING ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WE HAVE A DESPERATE NEED FOR NEW MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
CURRENTLY IF YOU HAVE $1200 A MONTH TO SPEND, YOU ARE
EITHER GOING TO LIVE IN 40-YEAR-OLD APARTMENTS OR YOU
ARE MOVING TO PINELLAS, LUTZ, OR BRADENTON.
MY PARTNER, JOHN, AND I ARE TRYING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE
MARKET RATE HOUSING FOR NURSES, TEACHERS, FIRST
RESPONDERS AND OTHERS SO THEY STAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A RETAIL SITE THAT HAS NEVER WORKED FOR 30
YEARS.
AND IF FORCED TO TELL THIS TO ANOTHER LARGE RETAIL
DEVELOPER TRAFFIC WILL BE TEN TIMES WORSE THAN AN
APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AS FOR MICHAEL BEARD OF 81 BREWING HAVE TRIED TO MAKE
US THE EVIL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS AND PUBLICIZED
PLEASE KNOW HE HAS NOT PAID RENT FOR ONE AND A HALF
YEARS, NOT A SINGLE DOLLAR.
THIS DOESN'T WORK AS A RETAIL COMPLEX.
I HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT MY PARTNER JOHN LUM AND I IN
BUILDING DESPERATELY NEEDED -- I WILL SAY IT AGAIN,
DESPERATELY NEEDED MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO WE
STOP LOSING TAMPA RESIDENTS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:46:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
18:46:13 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
THOSE WERE THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS INVOLVED IN THE
PROJECT.
IF YOU WILL CUE UP THE POWERPOINT AND WE WILL GO
THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
18:46:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE KNOW YOUR NAME BUT STATE YOUR NAME
FOR THE RECORD.
18:46:38 >> STEVE MICHELINI.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
AND I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROJECT AT 4465
GANDY.
FILE NO. REZ-21-04.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IF YOU COULD BLOW UP THAT SOME.
THIS IS THE -- THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE THAT IS BEFORE
THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND I AM JUST WANTING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS
WITH YOU.
THERE IS A VERY LARGE ACCESS DRIVEWAY ON THE EAST END
OF THIS PROPERTY THAT GOES INTO OAKELLAR AND THAT
DRIVEWAY WILL BE REMOVED.
IT IS VERY, VERY WIDE AND I THINK IN SOME OF THE
DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THEY HAD REQUESTED THAT
THAT -- THAT WE CONSIDERED THAT TO BE REMOVED AND WE
CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE IF THE COUNCIL
MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
ALSO, IF YOU WILL NOTE, THEY ASK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL
LANDSCAPING ALONG OAKELLAR.
AND INSTEAD OF BEING TWO-INCH TREES, THEY WILL ALL BE
FOUR-INCH TREES THROUGHOUT THE SITE, WHICH WILL GIVE AN
IMMEDIATE HIGH VISIBILITY AND GREEN CORRIDOR.
ON REAR OF THE PROPERTY, I THINK YOU WILL SEE ON SOME
OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS HERE THAT -- JUST ONE SECOND HERE.
IF YOU GO TO THE OVERHEAD.
THIS IS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY FACES
OAKELLAR AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A CELL PHONE
TOWER BACK TO THE OVERHEAD.
AND THERE IS AN EXTREMELY LARGE GENERATOR THAT IS HERE
THAT WILL ALSO BE REMOVED.
THIS IS THE SECTION ALONG OAKELLAR CURRENTLY AND THIS
IS WHAT FACES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS
GOING TO BE REMOVED.
THIS IS A VIEW FROM OAKELLAR TO THE BACK OF THE
BUILDING.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH TECO TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE
POWER LINES.
AND THERE IS A PLAN FOR THOSE TO BE BURIED ALONG THAT
SIDE.
THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT FACES AN
APARTMENT COMPLEX IN ANOTHER PARKING LOT AND AGAIN THE
PROPOSAL THROB REMOVE ALL OF THAT.
THIS IS THE AERIAL FORECAST OF THE ENTIRE FACILITY AS
BEING PLANNED FOR DEMOLITION.
AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OVER HERE, THIS
IS THE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES INTO OAKELLAR THAT IS BEING
PLANNED TO BE REMOVED.
THIS THE DRIVEWAY THAT CURRENTLY ACCESSES OAKELLAR.
YOU CAN SEE IT IS VERY WIDE.
AND THAT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.
WE CAN GO BACK TO THE POWERPOINT PLEASE.
NEXT -- NEXT SLIDE -- WELL, LET'S STAY ON HERE FOR A
SECOND.
WE ARE ACTUALLY INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE
THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE SITE.
WE ARE SHORT AND ASKING FOR A WAIVER, AND WE ARE
EXCEEDING WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
THIS SITE --
18:50:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MICHELINI, THE -- TECHNICAL -- WE
DON'T HAVE ANY SCREENS ON THE DAIS AT ALL.
THANK YOU, SIR.
YOU MAY CONTINUE, SIR.
18:50:41 >> EXCEPT FOR THE -- EXCEPT FOR THE ISLANDS, THERE IS
NO GREEN SPACE ON THIS PROPERTY.
RELATIVELY SMALL.
I THINK -- WE KEEP SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH.
ARE YOU SEEING THIS SCREEN?
18:50:52 >> YES, SIR, WE ARE SEEING IT.
18:50:56 >> WE ARE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE IMPERVIOUS AREA BY 15
-- 15%.
AS YOU WELL KNOW WE CAN NOT WAIVE TECHNICAL STANDARDS
REGARDING DRAINAGE AND MEET ALL OF THE STORMWATER AND
DRAINAGE CODE.
WE ALSO ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH THIS AS A RETROFIT FOR
CI ZONING.
IT HAS URBAN MIXED USE-60 DESIGNATION WHICH IS
EXTREMELY HIGH AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE EARLIER
DISCUSSION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT GANDY BEING A CORRIDOR
AND BEING ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND
SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED.
IT ALREADY HAS THE CORRECT ZONING.
OUR ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE
WAIVERS.
WE HAVE RECONFIGURED THE PARKING LOT SO WE NOW ARE AT
422 SPACES.
AND WILL REQUIRE A REDUCTION FROM 444 TO 422, WHICH
WILL BE 20 SPACES.
AND NOT THE LARGER NUMBER.
WE ARE PROPOSING A 313 UNITS.
IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE HERE -- NEXT SLIDE.
WE HAVE SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WATER AND SEWER.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT
WE ARE PLANNING TO DEMOLISH AS WELL AS THE BACK SIDE
THAT FRONTS ON OAKELLAR AND THE EAST -- AND THE WEST
SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
NEXT.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALREADY CLASSIFIED AND IDENTIFIED
AS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR, AND AS I STARTED TO SAY
EARLIER, A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR AND CONSISTENT
WITH THE LAND USE PROVISIONS CONTAINED IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEY ARE OUTLINED FOR YOU.
THE TRANSFORMATION MAKING THE CORRIDORS INCLUDED A
BROADER MIX OF USES HAS BOTH HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL
AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR OPPORTUNITY AND DENSITY HOUSING.
HOUSING IS A CRITICAL NEED AND I THINK AS MR. GREIS AND
MR. LUM BOTH POINTED OUT, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME
WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE A LOWER PRICE POINT ON
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THIS IS WHAT IS DRIVING THIS
DENSITY UP ALTHOUGH STILL BELOW THE 50 UNITS PER ACRE
THAT WILL BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
60 UNITS PER ACRE WOULD REQUIRE A F.A.R. AND SPECIAL
AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
IF YOU LOOK AT LAND USE POLICY 6.1.5, DESIGN AND
DEVELOPMENT ALONG MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND USE PUBLIC
TRANSIT, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRANSIT MAXIMIZING A
POTENTIAL.
WE PLAN TO HAVE A BICYCLE RENTAL STAND ON-SITE AS WELL
AS A SCOOTER STAND ON-SITE AND A NEW CONCEPT WHICH IS
CALLED ZIP CAR, WHICH IS AN INSTANT CAR RENTAL FOR
LOCAL COMMUTING USE ON-SITE TO HELP MITIGATE THE
REDUCTION IN PARKING.
WE ALSO ARE EXPLORING THE USE THROUGH A LEASE AGREEMENT
FOR PURCHASE OF AN ADJACENT PARCEL WHICH IS ALREADY A
PARKING LOT.
BUT WE IS IT NOT WANT TO GET INTO THAT WITH OUR
PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT WOULD CHANGE OUR SITE PLAN AND
POTENTIALLY KICK US BACK INTO A COMPLETE NEW REVIEW.
WE BELIEVE WE HAVE MET THE CRITERIA REGARDING THIS
PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION -- WE HAVE BEEN IF FULL
DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM REGARDING THIS.
THEIR OBJECTION AND FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY IS BASED
ON THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT WERE -- THAT WERE BEING
REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED; HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THAT WE
PRESENTED ENOUGH SUFFICIENT MITIGATING ALTERNATIVES TO
ACCOUNT FOR THOSE 22 SPACES.
AND, AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE TO SHOW THAT RECONFIGURATION
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD THE COUNCIL
CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
WE ALSO ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SIDEWALKS ALONG OAKELLAR
THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD NO SIDEWALKS, AND THEY WILL BE
BUILT ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE AND NOT
SEEKING WAIVERS OR IN LIEU FEES.
REMOVING 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CODE, YOU WILL SEE BY RIGHT, THEY
COULD NOT ONLY GO TO OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF
COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BUT THEY ALSO COULD INCREASE THAT
EVEN FURTHER BECAUSE THE F.A.R. THERE WITHOUT AN
AGREEMENT IS 3.25.
SO THAT YIELDS IN A -- IT IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT,
SOMETHING LIKE 900,000 -- 900 -- YEAH, 900,000 SQUARE
FEET OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, ON THE POWERPOINT.
WE DID -- WE DID A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AS MR. DINGFELDER
REQUESTED, AND THIS BASED ON THE ITE TRIP GENERATION
MANUAL WHICH ASSUMES THAT THE 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF
COMMERCIAL WILL BE OCCUPIED.
AND IT ALSO ASSUMES THAT THE APARTMENT -- THE PROPOSED
APARTMENTS AT 313 WOULD BE FULLY OCCUPIED.
YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN EXISTING
USE THAT IS PERMITTED AND ALLOWED, 5934 VEHICLES AND
TRIPS WE ARE DAY VERSUS 1682 TRIPS PER DAY, WHICH IS
ABOUT THREE AND A HALF TIMES MORE THAN THE -- THAN THE
PROPOSED USE IS LESS THAN THE EXISTING USE IS ALLOWED.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SHOWS YOU THE TRANSIT CORRIDOR'S EVACUATION MAP.
WE HAVE TALKED TO BOTH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE EVACUATION PLANS.
THOSE EVACUATION PLANS START OFF FIVE DAYS IN ADVANCE,
NOT ONE OR TWO DAYS IN ADVANCE AND THEY PROGRESSIVELY
GET STRONGER IN TERMS OF THEIR ENCOURAGEMENT TO LIFE IF
THAT IS THE CHOICE OF THE -- OF THE RESIDENTS THERE.
AND THIS WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS ALONG
OAKELLAR, CORTEZ, AND HESPERIDES AS THIS APARTMENT AS
PROPOSED.
THOSE CRITERIA INVOLVED, THE FIRST IS AN ENUNCIATION
WITH LOUDSPEAKERS UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND ALSO
MULTIMEDIA APPROACHES, LISTINGS AND SOCIAL MEDIA
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE IF THEY LIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS TO
CONSIDER EVACUATION.
AS IT GETS CLOSER TO THE EVENT, IF THERE IS ONE, ON THE
FOURTH DAY OUT, IT GETS MORE INTENSIVE AND ON THE THIRD
DAY AND THE SECOND DAY AND THE -- AS -- IF THERE IS AN
IMMEDIATE EVENT THAT IS ABOUT TO OCCUR, IT GETS EVEN
MORE STRINGENT.
THAT INCLUDES TRANSPORTATION FOR ANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS
IN THE EVENT THEY CAN'T OR WON'T DRIVE THEIR OWN
VEHICLES.
IT INCLUDES TRANSPORTATION TO SHELTERS --
18:58:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW MUCH MORE TIME YOU NEED, MR.
MICHELINI?
18:58:24 >> JUST A COUPLE MORE MINUTES WOULD BE GOOD, I THINK.
I THINK WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT
I WANTED TO COVER THE EVACUATION PLAN THAT EVERYONE IS
COVERED AND THE LAST THING THAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE
POLICE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOES DOOR TO DOOR AND
INDICATES TO INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY HAVE A WAY OUT IF
THEY WANT ONE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SHOWS THE CAPACITY OF THE EVACUATION SHELTERS.
AND BASICALLY THAT HILLSBOROUGH HAS 52,316 VACANCIES OR
SPACES FOR INDIVIDUALS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS IS THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND JOHN WENT OVER IT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
WE ARE REMOVING THE CELL TOWER.
REMOVING THE GENERATOR.
REMOVING THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE DIDN'T WANT THE MAIN
BUILDING TO FACE OAKELLAR AND REMOVING THE BALCONIES
THAT FACE OAKELLAR.
AND LOOKING AT OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS TO OAKELLAR AND
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY CROSSWALKS, PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION.
AND AS THE STAFF MENTIONED ADEQUATE RETAIL AND PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION WITHIN LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW SHOWING YOU ALL OF THE RETAIL
AVAILABLE WITHIN THE AREA AND ALL OF THAT IS WITHIN
LESS OF A MILE, BICYCLE STATIONS, COOLER STATIONS AND
RENTAL CAR.
THE FAILED RETAIL CENTER.
NEXT, ARE THE APARTMENTS.
THIS IS WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE BY RIGHT.
IT IS MASSIVE AND THIS IS NOT WITH -- WHAT WE ARE WANT
CAN TO DO.
NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THE LAST SLIDE SHOWING
YOU THE APARTMENTS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING AT 313 UNITS,
FOUR STORIES AND WITH THE APPROPRIATE AMENITIES AND THE
CHANGES THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE MAY BE ABLE --
TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AS WELL AS
THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE CITY'S REQUEST FOR US
TO MAKE CHANGES.
SO ANYWAY, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
ASSISTANCE IN MAKING THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SHOULD WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
19:01:08 >> MR. CHAIR.
19:01:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:01:15 >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. GREIS MENTIONED A TENANT,
TWO-THIRDS OR THREE-QUARTERS OF THE E-MAILS HAVE
CONCERN OF THE TENANT MOVING OUT.
UNLESS LEGAL TELLS US OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK CITY
COUNCIL HAS ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.
BUT CAN YOU TELL US WHAT -- WHAT ARE THE -- WHAT --
WHAT -- FROM YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS AVAILABLE NOW?
WHAT COULD YOU TO DO THE PROPERTY NOW WITH THE
ENCOURAGEMENT ENTITLES THAT YOU HAVE, ARE YOU LIKELY TO
KEEP THAT BUILDING AT ALL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN.
IS IT LIKELY THAT BUILDING WILL STAY IF THIS DOESN'T GO
THROUGH TONIGHT.
WHAT WOULD YOU BE ENTITLED TO DO TODAY.
19:01:59 >> IT IS NOT LIKELY THAT THE BUILDING WILL STAY.
I HAVE DISCUSSED THE ISSUE REGARDING THE TENANT WITH
THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND IT IS A CIVIL MATTER
BETWEEN THAT TENANT AND THE LANDLORD.
AND SO WE ARE REALLY NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.
BUT I THINK THE NUMBER IS 970,000 SQUARE FEET BY
ENTITLEMENT WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND MORE
INTENSIVE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
AND IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND MORE INTENSIVE THAN
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
19:02:35 >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
19:02:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE ELSE?
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:02:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MR. MICHELINI.
JUST FOR CLARITY AND CLARIFICATION, YOU DESCRIBED MR.
LUM AND MR. GREIS AS THE OWNERS.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
ARE THEY CURRENTLY THE OWNERS.
19:03:01 >> MR. GREIS IS THE OWNER AND MR. LUM AND MR. GREIS ARE
PARTNERS ON THE PROJECT.
19:03:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO THEY ARE NOT UNDER CONTRACT.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE OWNERS.
19:03:11 >> MR. GREIS IS THE ABSOLUTE OWNER, THAT'S CORRECT.
19:03:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.
19:03:16 >> IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, FOR CLARIFICATION
ON THE APPLICATION IT INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER
IS GF FINANCE LLC.
RATHER THAN INDIVIDUALS ARE THE OWNER PERHAPS THEY ARE
REPRESENTING THE OWNER.
19:03:33 >> THAT COMPANY IS -- MR. GREIS IS THE PRINCIPAL IN
THAT COMPANY.
HE CAN --
19:03:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
IS ON THE RIGHT PAGE WHEN WE SAY THINGS.
WITH REGARDS TO MR. LUM STARTED OUT -- AND MR. GREIS
START AND YOU WERE THE THIRD TO TALK ABOUT MARKET RATE,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE -- THE
PUBLICATION THAT YOU PROVIDED US TO, CAMEO, IT ALSO
SPEAKS TO MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEY SPOKE TO HOUSING, TEACHERS AND THIS SORT OF
THING.
WHICH I THINK IS A WONDERFUL THING.
IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE SITE PLAN OR CONDITIONS THAT
SPEAK TO THE -- THE AMOUNT OF RENT THAT IS GOING TO BE
CHARGED OR EVEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE INDIVIDUAL
UNITS?
I BROUGHT THE WRONG GLASSES TODAY SO I AM HAVING
TROUBLE READING THE FINE PRINT ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING THE QUESTION.
FIRST TO YOU, STEVE.
AND THEN I WILL AS THAT -- THAT IS A CONDITION THAT
WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE END WHEN THE PROJECT
WAS FINALLY BUILT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.
BUT WE DID OUTLINE THE NUMBER OF UNITS PER CATEGORY.
AND THAT IS ON THE SITE PLAN.
I CAN RUN THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
19:04:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YEAH.
AND TELL ME WHERE ON-SITE -- I WAS HAVING SOME TROUBLE
READING -- READING THE FINE PRINT.
19:05:07 >> IT SAYS 111 MICROUNITS --
19:05:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WHERE IS THAT ON THE SITE PLAN?
19:05:12 >> RESIDENTIAL AND VISITOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
19:05:16 >>RYAN MANASSE:
COUNCIL, RYAN MANASSE, IF I MAY.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR -- I HEARD
111 AND I HAVE SCOOT IT PLAN ZOOMED IN.
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO
THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER UNDER GREEN SPACE CALCULATION
-- NOT GREEN SPACE CALCULATION BUT RESIDENT AND VISITOR
PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS WHAT MR. MICHELINI IS GOING TO
READ OFF, JUST FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE LOOKED AT
IT -- A PARKING REQUIREMENT THERE IS INDICATED FOR
DIFFERENT KINDS OF DWELLING UNITS.
MR. MICHELINI STATED 313 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, 103 BEING
MICRO, 09 APPROXIMATING STUDIO, 1212 BEING ONE TO
TWO-BEDROOM UNITS AND THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE SITE
PLAN FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE STAFF SIDE.
TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT RENT, I DON'T BELIEVE
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE SITE PLAN.
19:06:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
RIGHT.
I WAS ALSO A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IT WAS REFERRED
TO, STEVE, AS "MARKET RATE" AND THEN "AFFORDABLE
HOUSING."
AND MARKET RATE IS WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAVE OTHER DEFINITIONS DEPENDING IF
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL STATUTES OR STATE
STATUTES, WHATEVER.
DID WE LOSE MR. MICHELINI?
19:06:33 >> WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ON THAT
BECAUSE THE COST AND THE EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE --
OF THE PROJECT ARE -- OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE VARIABLES
THAT EFFECT WHAT THE RENTAL RATES WOULD BE.
THE GOAL AND THE OBJECTIVE WAS AND WE HAVE BEEN IN
TOUCH WITH THE VARIOUS UNIONS REGARDING IN, BUT THE
GOAL WAS TO GIVE PREFERENCE TO FIRST RESPONDERS AND
THOSE THAT NEEDED HOUSING BECAUSE THE HOUSING CRISIS
BASICALLY IS -- IS SO -- SO HIGH THAT THE AFFORDABILITY
OF THAT WAS -- WAS ALSO CAUSING SOME ISSUES.
19:07:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO --
19:07:16 >> WE DON'T --
19:07:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
LET RYAN TO FIRM UP ON THIS.
IN THE BOTTOM, RYAN, WHEN IT TALKS TO PARKING, 103
MICRO UNITS, 90 STUDIO UNITS.
THAT IS GOOD, STEVE.
I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE PROVIDING SOME SMALLER UNITS
WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE LESS -- LESS EXPENSIVE AND MORE
AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WHEN -- HOW BINDING,
RYAN -- RYAN MANASSE, HOW BINDING IS THAT OR CATE,
EITHER ONE OF YOU, YOU KNOW, CAN -- YOU KNOW, AFTER --
AFTER THE PD IS APPROVED, CAN THEY -- THIS IS JUST
ABOUT PARKING.
SO COULD THEY ADD MORE PARKING AND IGNORE -- IGNORE
THIS 103 MICRO UNITS AND 90 STUDIO UNITS.
I GUESS THAT IS MORE OF A "CATE" QUESTION.
19:08:11 >> I WAS THINKING MORE OF A RYAN QUESTION.
19:08:15 >>RYAN MANASSE:
I CAN START OFF AND THEN CATE.
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU ARE CORRECT.
AS FAR AS THE PARKING THEY CAN'T INCREASE THE PARKING.
ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS A
REQUIREMENT OR CODE, IF YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO COME
IN FOR A SUBSTANTIAL DEVIATION, THERE IS A REVIEW
PROCESS AND IT IS A MINIMAL FACTOR THAT YOU CAN ADJUST.
SOME OF THEM BEING YOU CAN'T ADJUST AT ALL USES, MEANS
OF EGRESS AND TOUCH.
AS FAR AS THE PARKING, IT CAN'T GO UP TOO MUCH OR DOWN
TOO MUCH WITHOUT TRIGGERING A SUBSTANTIAL DEVIATION
FROM A SITE PLAN THAT IS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
AS FAR AS THE USE ON THE PROPERTY AND CATE, MAYBE I CAN
HAVE YOU CONFIRM, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AS FAR AS IT IS LAID OUT FOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IF
THEY ARE MEETING THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT, THAT PD
WILL BE APPROVED AS IS.
19:09:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND MAYBE I CAN -- MAYBE I CAN HELP
A LITTLE BIT.
STEVE MICHELINI, SINCE YOU ARE -- SINCE YOU ARE
COMMITTING TO IT HERE AT THE BOTTOM UNDER THE PARKING
REQUIREMENTS, BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, WOULD
-- WOULD YOUR SAME CLIENTS BE WILLING TO COMMIT THAT
THIS IS THE ACTUAL NUMBER -- YOU KNOW, TYPE AND NUMBER
OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE BUILT IF AND WHEN THIS -- YOU
KNOW -- YOU HEAR WHERE I AM COMING FROM, STEVE.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO PLAY ANY GAMES ABOUT PARKING
SPACES AND THEN BACKING OFF ON THE TYPE OF UNITS.
19:09:39 >> NO, SIR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF DOING THAT
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM PUTTING THAT IN THERE AS
THE DISTRIBUTION THAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
AND TAKING IT -- WE WOULD -- WE WOULD DUPLICATE IT IN
ANOTHER PORTION AND SAY THE HOUSING DISTRIBUTION WILL
BE THIS IN ADDITION TO THE --
19:09:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND THEN WOULD YOU BE MORE BOUND TO
DOING IT.
AND THEN MY OTHER -- MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR -- FOR YOUR INDULGENCE IS, YOU
MENTIONED SOMETHING OF MODIFYING THE OAKELLAR ACCESS
POINT.
ARE YOU ELIMINATING THE ACCESS TO GO BACK INTO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD?
BECAUSE I KNOW IF I SURE LIVED UP INTO THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PROJECT ISOLATED
TO GO IN AND OUT ONLY FROM GANDY AND NOT IN AND OUT
THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:10:28 >> I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE AND I AM GOING TO GIVE IT TO
YOU AGAIN.
THE PHOTOGRAPH SHOW THE DRIVEWAY TO THE EAST THAT IS
BEING REMOVED.
WHERE DID IT GO HERE?
MIGHT BE EASIER TO SEE ON THE OVERHEAD DINGFELDER PULL
THE MIC TO YOU, STEVE.
19:11:02 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
THIS OVERHEAD, CAN YOU SEE IT?
THIS IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY HERE TO THE EAST.
AND IT IS A DOUBLE DRIVEWAY.
IT IS VERY, VERY WIDE.
THAT DRIVEWAY IS BEING ELIMINATED.
AND THEN THE NEXT DRIVEWAY IS DOWN -- DOWN HERE.
THIS ONE IS ON THE SITE PLAN THAT I SHOWED YOU.
19:11:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WHY NOT BUILD THIS WONDERFUL
PROJECT AND INGRESS, EGRESS FROM GANDY AND NOT THROUGH
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I READ SOME OF THE LETTERS OF RECORD THAT MADE
REFERENCE OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT PLAZA.
ON ONE HAND YOU SAY THE PLAZA HAS BEEN A COMPLETE
FAILURE AND YOU ARE USING THEIR TRAFFIC NUMBERS LIKES
IT IS MAXED OUT AND THE GREATEST EVER AND IN REALITY IT
HAS BEEN A FAILURE AND NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT
NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THIS PLAZA.
WHY NOT BLOCK IT OFF AND GO IN AND OUT THROUGH GANDY?
19:12:20 >> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER BACK TO JOHN.
19:12:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I AM SURE WE WILL HEAR FROM THE
PUBLIC AND IN THE MEANTIME YOU GUYS CAN PONDER THAT
QUESTION.
19:12:37 >>RYAN MANASSE:
I AM SORRY, CHAIR, BECAUSE IT KIND OF
COMES FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTION.
THERE WAS SOME ON MR. MICHELINI'S PRESENTATION ABOUT
SOME ADDITIONS AND SUBTRACTIONS FROM THE SITE PLAN THAT
WAS SUBMITTED.
AND WE CAN TAKE IT ON THE END AND WANTED SOME
CLARIFICATION NOW BECAUSE REMOVING EGRESS.
AND ON THE SITE PLAN I AM LOOKING AT, THREE ACCESS
POINTS ON OAKELLAR AND MAKING THAT CLEAR FROM THE SITE
PLAN I REVIEWED AND MY STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE CIRCULAR
DRIVE WHICH CONTAIN TWO ACCESS POINTS ON OAKELLAR AND
THEN THE ONE TO THE WEST WHICH IS THE MAIN ACCESS POINT
IT APPEARS FOR THE PARKING LOT WITH THE THREE TO THE
SOUTH AS JONATHAN STATED CROSS-ACCESS POINTS.
SORRY, CHAIR.
WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT
AND INDULGE US AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE GO TO
FINAL COMMENTS, WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
19:13:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, DO YOU WANT TO
INFORMATION NOW?
19:13:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
NO, WE CAN DO IT AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT.
19:13:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYBODY ELSE?
MR. MICHELINI.
19:13:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I AM CONFUSED ON THE PROJECT.
I HEAR A LOT OF WORDS BUT I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION
WHAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE.
I HEAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MARKET RATE AND HAIRED
MICRO -- WHAT IS THE PROJECT?
19:14:11 >> START WITH THE MICRO UNITS.
THE SMALLER UNITS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO BE MORE
AFFORDABLE.
THERE ARE OTHER UNITS.
19:14:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I CAN'T SEE THEM ON THE SCREEN.
THANK YOU, SIR.
CONTINUE.
19:14:22 >> YOU WANT ME TO START OVER?
19:14:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, YOU CAN.
19:14:27 >> MICRO UNITS ARE THE SMALLER -- THEY ARE SMALLER THAN
AN EFFICIENCY, BUT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE AFFORDABLE.
THERE ARE OTHER UNITS THAT ARE LARGER THAN THAT THAT
ARE MARKET RATE.
THE ONE BEDROOM, THE TWO BEDROOMS AND THE EFFICIENCIES.
THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE MICROS.
SO YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS -- ACTUALLY FOUR IF
YOU INCLUDE THE TWO BEDROOMS OF -- OF UNIT COUNTS, BUT
THE PREDOMINANT NUMBER OF COUNT -- ROOM COUNT IS IN THE
MICRO UNITS.
THAT -- SO ANYWAY, THAT IS THE WAY THEY ARE
DISTRIBUTED.
YOU HAVE 96 STUDIOS WHICH ARE EFFICIENCIES AND THEN YOU
HAVE THE 103 WHICH ARE MICROS WHICH ARE THE PREDOMINANT
NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE -- THE ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS WHICH
ARE ABOUT 100 UNITS.
SO YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE LEVEL OF -- OF
TYPE OF -- OF APARTMENT THAT IS BEING PROVIDED.
DID THAT -- I DID ANSWER THAT.
WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH?
19:15:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I GET YOU ARE SAYING FOUR DIFFERENT
LEVELS -- TYPES OF HOUSING IN THERE, BUT I GUESS I AM
LOOKING AT -- YOU KEPT SAYING "MARKET."
I GET CONFUSED WITH THE FOUR LEVELS OF MARKET.
YOU SAID "AFFORDABLE HOUSING."
19:16:00 >> THE MARKET PROVISION ONLY APPLIED TO ONE COMPONENT
OF THE DOMINANT NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE WHOLE PROJECT.
19:16:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
19:16:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR
CONVERSATION ALONG COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
YOU TALK OF MARKET RATE, EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT AND I
CAN TELL YOU BY MY EXPERIENCE IN SEEING HOMES IN
CERTAIN PART OF TOWN AND I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION
WHERE THAT THEY ARE DIVIDED INTO TWO TO THREE
APARTMENTS, FOUR APARTMENTS AND ONE HOUSE.
SOMETIMES THEY GET A CARPORT AND THEY CLOSE THE CARPORT
AND CHARGING ANYWHERE FROM $600 TODAY $800 FOR CARPORT
9 TO 10 FEET TO 16 FEET AND MAKE A LITTLE SHOWER, A
LITTLE STOVE, DANGEROUS TO LIVE THAT WAY.
AND IT'S -- IT'S HARD TO SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE
STRUGGLING WITH.
AND I SEE WHAT THEY CALL IT MARKET RATE OR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
THE NAME IS IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, YOU CAN MOVE.
IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT, YOU CAN'T STAY.
I DON'T CARE EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, YBOR
CITY OR NEW.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN SOCIETY THAT NO MATTER IF YOU
ARE MAKING $15 AN HOUR, AT THE END OF THE MONTH, IF YOU
HAVE A FAMILY, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT.
TWO OF YOU WORKING THE FAMILY TO GET BY.
AND IT IS SAD TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S HOW I VIEW IT.
AND I AM NOT TAKING A STEP FORWARD OR BACKWARDS.
I AM JUST SAYING THE STATE OF WHAT I SEE FROM MY TWO
EYE OR ONE EYE THAT WORKS ANYWAY TO SEE HOW IT IS
GOING.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM NOT ONLY THIS IN CITY BUT IN THE
WHOLE COUNTRY OF AFFORD -- AFFORDABILITY ON MANY THING
AND THE MAIN THING IS YOUR DWELLING, TO GET FROM POINT
A AND POINT B.
19:17:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WHY DON'T WE LISTEN --
19:17:55 >> IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY REAL QUICK.
19:17:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SAY THAT AGAIN --
19:17:58 >> HI, JOHN LUM HERE.
WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T USE THE WORD AFFORDABLE.
ATTAINABLE.
AFFORDABLE IS SUCH A BUZZWORD.
WHEN THE MAYOR EVEN SAID WE NEED MARKET RATE
DEVELOPMENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING THAT ARE NOT
GOVERNMENT-SUBSIDIZED A THAT IS -- THE ONLY SMALL AND
AFFORDABLE-PRICED JUNK RATE, RENT RATE APARTMENTS HAVE
TO BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
WHEN SEA SAY MARKET RATE, THE MARKET WILL DICTATE HOW
MUCH PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR 450-SQUARE-FOOT TINY HOUSE IN
THE SKY.
AND AS MY PARTNER SAID, PEOPLE UNDER $1200 A MONTH HAVE
TO LEAVE THIS AREA.
THEY HAVE TO MOVE TO ST. PETE OR GO UP NORTH.
THERE IS NO PLACES FOR THEM TO LIVE.
AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE SOMEWHERE FOR FOLKS
TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE URBAN CORE HERE BECAUSE THE
LAND DOWNTOWN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND
YOU GOT TO CHARGE $2000, $1800 A MONTH FOR RENT
EVERYWHERE AND I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES THINGS.
19:19:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THOUGHT FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SIR.
GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 20 PEOPLE TO SPEAK US
TO THIS EVENING.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE REMOTELY, MADAM CLERK?
19:19:24 >>CLERK:
WE HAD 21 SPEAKERS.
19:19:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
21 SPEAKERS.
ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, THAT IS GOING TO BE A MINUTE SO
I WOULD ASK WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK LITTLE
RECESS BECAUSE WE WILL BE SITTING FOR A WHILE.
19:19:41 >> HOW MANY PEOPLE IN PERSON?
19:19:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
20 AND 20.
19:19:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
20 AND 20.
SO FIVE MINUTES -- TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS, GENTLEMEN
19:33:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
19:33:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HERE.
19:33:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
19:33:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
19:33:35 >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
19:33:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
GO WITH IN-PERSON ON SECOND FLOOR.
19:33:44 >> THIS IS JAYNE NMADU.
THERE ARE TEN PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
19:33:53 >> MR. CHAIR.
19:33:56 >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:33:58 >> SORRY -- I WANT TO MAKE THE CORRECTION.
LOOKING AT THE PARKING CALCULATIONS ON THE PROVIDED
SITE PLAN.
I WANT TO SHOW ON THE RECORD 345 RESIDENTIAL UNITS NOT
313.
JUST BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT SO COUNCIL IS
AWARE OF THAT A DISCREPANCY IN THE PARKING
CALCULATIONS.
CALCULATIONS BEING PROVIDED ARE FOR 305 DWELLING
UNITS.
19:34:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.
GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
19:34:36 >> I CAN'T TELL IF YOU CAN SEE ME.
19:34:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.
19:34:45 >> PAM ELKINGTON ON THE ROAD WHERE THEY WANT TO BUILD
THIS.
SEVERAL PROBLEM AND THE MAJOR PROBLEM IS THE TRAFFIC
AND SAFETY PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN THEY COME OUT ON OAKELLAR, THAT THE ONLY WAY WE
HAVE BEEN LET KNOW THAT THEY ARE COMING OUT FROM THIS
COMMUNITY AND IT IS ALREADY BACKED UP BECAUSE RIGHT
NEXT DOOR IS THE POST OFFICE THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT AND
THEY ALREADY HAD A LOT OF TRUCKS THAT GO TO THE POST
OFFICE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO THAT POST OFFICE
AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC ALREADY.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE SHOOTING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY
TO GO OUT OTHER WAYS BECAUSE WHEN OAKELLAR BACKS OFF GO
TO ALL THE SIDE STREETS.
I HAVE BEEN HIT ON THE CORNER OF CORTEZ AND THE NEXT
BLOCK OVER IS COACHMAN.
T-BONED HIT BY SOMEONE COMING FROM THE POST OFFICE.
NOT LIKE WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY
AND DOWN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE -- PARKING SPOTS FOR
THEIR PEOPLE.
ACCORDING TO WHAT I SAW AND LISTENING TO THE
CONVERSATION, IT IS CONFUSING TO THE FINAL NUMBERS OF A
LOT OF THINGS AND WHAT THEIR FINAL THINGS ARE, BUT FROM
WHAT I SAW AGAIN WHAT I WORKED DOWN 313 UNITS, DOUBLE
OCCUPANCY, 347 PEOPLE IF THERE ARE NO VEHICLES.
AND WANT TO DOWN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPOTS SO THAT
MEANS YOU HAVE TO PARK OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY WANT TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET
AROUND, THE REALITY IS TO GO PLACES IN TAMPA, THEY ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A CAR.
MOST PEOPLE WILL HAVE A CAR AND 347 PEOPLE COMING OUT
OF THAT.
THERE HAS BEEN NO INDICATION OF IT BEING ABLE TO GO OUT
THE GANDY WAY AT ALL.
SO THE ONLY WAY OUT WHETHER THEY ELIMINATE THE DRIVEWAY
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT OR NOT THEY ARE STILL COMING OUT
THE SAME WAY AS THE SAME SIDE STREET IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, THERE ARE
ALREADY BIG UNITS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WHOLE
COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS CAN'T SEE
IT TOO GOOD AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO ADJUST IT.
THE CIRCLE SPOT IS WHERE THEY WANT TO BUILD.
THE POST OFFICE AND OAKELLAR AND ARMS HAVE 28 UNITS.
FOUR STORIES.
BRANDY CHASE APARTMENTS WITH 56 UNITS.
I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE
THERE.
IT'S A TWO-STORY.
SOUTH ON MANHATTAN RIGHT ACROSS GANDY, 287 UNITS, IT IS
THREE STORIES.
IN THE CORNER OF GANDY AND WEST SHORE, A TON OF STUFF
BEING BUILT OVER THERE.
ON THE 2040 PLAN, THAT IS ACTUALLY TOWARD THE RED
COLOR.
THERE IS SO MUCH BEING BUILT AND OVER HERE IS THE
GEORGETOWN WHICH IS RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THEY WANT TO BUILD HERE.
OAKELLAR AND THE NEXT SIDE STREET WHICH IS COACHMAN AND
FAIR OAKS.
WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING FROM FAIR OAKS
BACK AND FORTH FROM MANISCALCO TO WEST SHORE.
THIS IS GOING TO ADD A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND WEST
SHORE IS ONLY ONE LANE GOING BOTH WAYS THEY WILL BE
SHOOTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO THE OTHER
SIDE.
19:37:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
19:37:50 >> IS MY TIME UP?
19:37:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU.
19:38:12 >> OKAY.
19:38:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
19:38:15 >> CAN YOU SEE ME?
19:38:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, I CAN SEE YOU.
19:38:22 >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL BEARD, OWNER OF 81 BREWING
COMPANY, 645 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT IN OPPOSITION OF THIS
REZONING.
I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS THAT WERE SAID
ABOUT ME AND MY BUSINESS.
AND JUST GIVE MY GENERAL OPINION OF WHAT THIS REZONING
WOULD TO DO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
FIRST OFF, MR. GREIS SAID I SOMEHOW VILIFIED HIM IN THE
MEDIA OR ONLINE.
THIS IS NOT TRUE IN ANY WAY.
I HAVE MADE NO PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT HIM WHATSOEVER.
SIMPLY POSTED A SIGN FOR THE REZONING, WHICH WAS PUBLIC
RECORD AND SAID IF ANYONE HAS ANY OPINIONS ABOUT THIS,
HERE IS WHEN AND WHERE YOU CAN MAKE THOSE STATEMENTS
KNOWN.
SECOND, MY BUSINESS IS ABSOLUTELY THRIVING.
IN 2020, WE WON THE BEST LARGE BREWERY IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA AT THE BEST FLORIDA BEER CHAMPIONSHIPS.
[APPLAUSE]
SORRY -- 2020 WAS OBVIOUSLY A BIT OF A SETBACK FOR THE
ENTIRE BAR INDUSTRY, BUT PREVIOUS TO THAT WE HAVE GROWN
BY DOUBLE-DIGIT REVENUE EVERY YEAR, YEAR-OVER-YEAR.
2021 LOOKS TO BE THE BEST YEAR ON RECORD EVER.
WHEN THE CRAFT BEER MARKET ON LARGE SHRUNK 90%, MY
VOLUMESHIP WENT UP 27% YEAR-OVER-YEAR.
SO WE ARE ONE OF THE BEST BREWERIES IN THE STATE.
WE ARE THRIVING BOTH FINANCIALLY AND AS OUR BRAND.
AND WE HAVE NO PLANS WHATSOEVER TO MOVE UNLESS FORCED
TO DO SO SOMEHOW, WHICH I DON'T SEE IS A POSSIBILITY IN
REALITY SEEING HOW WE BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ENFORCEABLE
LEASE FOR 15 MORE YEARS.
LASTLY, WE ARE A BIT OF A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR SOUTH
TAMPA.
PEOPLE COME IN.
WE HAVE FUNDRAISERS FOR THE LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
PTA.
WE HAVE A BOOK CLUB.
WE DO LOCAL TRIVIA AND 90% OF MY CUSTOMERS IN THE TAP
ROOM ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO VERY FAR TO FIND A
5,000-SQUARE-FOOT PLACE TO MEET WITH THEIR FRIENDS,
FAMILY, COLLEAGUES.
AND IF YOU TAKE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS AWAY FROM THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU PUT IN A LOT MORE PEOPLE, YOU ARE
NOT ONLY ENSURING THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE ON THE
ROAD, YOU ARE ENSURING THAT EVERYONE AROUND US HAVE TO
DRIVE A LOT FARTHER TO CONGREGATE WITH THEIR FRIENDS
AND FAMILY AND I THINK THAT IS A MAJOR MISTAKE FOR
EVERYONE.
THAT IS ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED.
I WANTED TO COME OUT IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING AND
KIND OF SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT FOR WHO WE WERE AND
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THERE.
AS FAR AS THIS BEING A FAILED RETAIL CENTER, IF YOU
LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE LITIGATION THAT IS PUBLIC
RECORD THAT HAS THIS ADDRESS ON IT.
YOU MIGHT COME TO DIFFERENT CONCLUSION THAN THE
LOCATION IS THE REASON FOR A FAILED RETAIL ENTER OR THE
TENANTS ARE THE REASON FOR THE FAILED RETAIL CENTER.
YOU LOOK THROUGH THOSE DOCUMENTS I WILL LET YOU DRAW
YOUR OWN CONCLUSION FOR THEM AND A GREAT SITE FOR
RETAIL.
WHY I MOVED FROM SAN DIEGO, ONE OF THE BREWERY CAPITALS
OF THE WORLD TO OPEN A BREWERY HERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT
IT WAS SUCH A GREAT LOCATION TO OPEN A TAP ROOM AND
START A GREAT BREWERY WHICH WE HAVE DONE.
19:41:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
19:41:25 >> THANK YOU, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
[APPLAUSE]
19:41:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MAYBE THEY HAVE BEEN SAMPLING A
LITTLE BIT.
[LAUGHTER]
19:41:44 >> OKAY.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN.
HOW IS EVERYONE DOING.
SHAWN BROWN, PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
FIRST REAL QUICK, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
DOESN'T WANT TO SPENDS YOUR BIRTHDAY HERE ON A
THURSDAY.
THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
COMING OUT HERE TO OBJECT TO THIS CRAZY PROPOSAL, TO BE
QUITE FRANK.
FIRST OFF, THE THOUGHT OF 100,000 COMMERCIAL SQUARE
FEET GOING AWAY -- THAT IS TAKING AWAY JOBS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT HERE ON THE ELMO, YOU -- ONE OF THE
THINGS ABOUT MIXED USE CORRIDOR, TALKS ABOUT CREATE NEW
HOUSING AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES WHILE IMPROVING THE
PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT.
NOW LET ME BE BLUNT.
THE FACT THAT THEY ARE RE-ORIENTING THIS WHOLE PROJECT
IS TO AVOID GANDY BOULEVARD AS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
THE REQUIREMENTS OF A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID THAT BY PUTTING IT ON
OAKELLAR.
AND THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY TRAFFIC REDUCED ON GANDY
IF IT IS NOT COMMERCIAL.
THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU FACTS OF OAKELLAR AT ALL AND HOW
THE TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE.
IDIOTIC IN AND OF ITSELF.
THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID GANDY AND AVOID THE
REQUIREMENTS ON THAT, ALL RIGHT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, AGAIN, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
LOOKING AT PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT LAND
USE POLICY 6.1.1 AND THE OBJECTIVES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN,
IT TALKS ABOUT TRANSIT.
YOU KNOW, TRYING TO INCORPORATE THINGS.
ALL THESE POLICIES ARE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT.
LET ME PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AND REMIND ALL OF YOU,
NO HART BUSLINE THAT GOES ALONG GANDY WHATSOEVER.
NOTHING.
SO HOW IS IT SMART TO PUT 800 UNITS WHEN THERE IS NO
BUS LINE.
HART SCHEDULE.
THE ONLY BUS SOUTH OF EUCLID IS DOWN MANHATTAN.
NO BUS LINE ON GANDY, NOTHING OF THAT SORT WHATSOEVER.
SO, AGAIN, THE REASON THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED THE WAY
IT IS TO AVOID THE REQUIREMENTS OF GANDY.
AND IT BEING CLASSIFIED AS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
BUT IT IS LACKING IN THAT SENSE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, HART
HAVEN'T PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE AS FAR AS IT BEING A BUS
ROUTE.
IN ADDITION, THE IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT.
IN 2008 WYNN DIXIE WENT BANKRUPT.
ALL OF WYNN DIXIE GROCERY STORE CLOSED.
LOOK AT AESTHETICS OF THIS PROPERTY.
IT HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINED AT ALL.
YES, IT MAY BE DETERRING RETAIL AND PUT UPGRADES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET COMMERCIAL IN
FLORIDA.
WE NEED COMMERCIAL.
LOOK, THEY CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THIS IS THE MORRISON ON THE ELMO RIGHT HERE ON HOWARD,
RIGHT HERE
APARTMENTS ON TOP.
ALL THAT COMMERCIAL IS FULL AT THE BOTTOM INCLUDING A
SMALL PILATES GYM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
RIGHT THERE ON HOWARD AND HOWARD IS CONSIDERED ONE OF
THOSE TRANSIT CORRIDORS AND ANOTHER PROJECT DOWN
HOWARD, APARTMENTS ON THE TOP AND COMMERCIAL ON BOTTOM.
ONE OF THESE FOLKS SAID THE APPLEBEE'S ON THE PROPERTY
WILL BLOCK THE OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE SEEN.
19:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. BROWN.
19:44:59 >> THANK YOU, GUYS.
I APPRECIATE IT.
19:45:23 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
19:45:25 >> GOOD EVENING.
19:45:28 >> I AM KEN CHAPMAN AND I AM AN ATTORNEY AND REPRESENT
GRACE CHURCH WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE PLAZA.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING
APPLICATION.
WHAT I FOUND KIND OF INTERESTING IN LISTENING TO THE
APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT
OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN OMITTED.
19:45:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CAN YOU GO CLOSER TO THE MIC, SIR?
19:45:47 >> CERTAINLY, MY APOLOGIES.
PROBABLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE POINTED OUT, TECHNICAL ISSUES
THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
ONE IS THAT THE APPLICANT'S OWNERSHIP INTEREST IS BEING
CHALLENGED.
ANOTHER PARTY IS CONTESTING WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A
PRIOR RIGHT TO OWN THE PROPERTY VIS-A-VIS A RIGHT OF
FIRST REFUSAL.
THE LAWSUIT IS PENDING AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE
COMPLETED BEFORE THE COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION ON THE
APPLICATION.
ANOTHER ISSUE THAT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT A SET OF
DECLARATIONS AND COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT APPLY
TO THE PLAZA.
THIS IN AND OF ITSELF OF ALL PROPERTY INCLUDING THE
APPLICANT'S PROPERTY FOR RETAIL OPERATIONS.
ASKING FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL VIOLATE THOSE
PROVISIONS.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
ON A PRACTICAL LEVEL, 586 TOTAL PARKING SPACES IN THE
PLAZA.
PARKING SPACES ARE SHARED AMONG ALL OWNERS IN THE
PLAZA.
300 THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO MY CLIENT FOR ITS SERVICES.
437 PROPOSED FOR THE PROJECT THAT LEAVES 737 TOTAL
PARKING SPACE REQUIRED 151 PARKING SPACES.
PHYSICALLY THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR TO GO FORWARD AND
SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE BASIS OF DENYING THE
APPLICATION.
CITY STAFF IS ACTUALLY POINTED OUT IT IS INCONSISTENT
CURRENT CODE AND PLAN REQUIREMENTS.
THE APPROVAL WILL ESSENTIALLY WIND UP SHUTTING DOWN THE
OTHER OWNERS IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO SEQUESTER 300
PARKING SPACES AND USED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPLEX.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT THERE
ARE SOME COMMUNITY ISSUES HERE RELATED TO THIS.
THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED
FOR THIS COUNCIL LAST MONTH.
IN FACT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, APPROVAL FOR DRAFTING A
PROPOSAL TO LIMIT PROJECTS JUST LIKE THIS.
HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
SO ESSENTIALLY, TO ENTERTAIN THE ZONING APPLICATION IN
AND OF ITSELF LIES IN WHAT THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO
ACHIEVE OTHERWISE.
BASICALLY LOOKING AT THIS FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE,
THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HARM THE COMMUNITY.
HURT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE RETAIL,
RESTAURANT, AND OTHER SERVICE-TYPE INDUSTRIES THAT CAN
ACTUALLY MOVE INTO THESE UNITS THAT ARE EXISTING HERE
NOW VERSUS TURNING THEM INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE SUFFERING FROM THE EFFECT
OF COVID NOT JUST THE TRAGIC LOSS OF LIFE, BUT ALSO A
SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF JOBS AND EMPLOYMENT.
WITH THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSE SOMETHING TO ESSENTIALLY
GO IN.
RAZE A BUILDING.
CALL 81 BREWING COMPANY TO SHUT DOWN, FIRE THEIR
EMPLOYEES --
19:48:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ONE MOMENT, I SEE A LIGHT ON.
MR. MIRANDA?
19:48:37 >> PARDON?
19:48:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR LIGHT.
YOU WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED?
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED.
19:48:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES, SIR.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE WRAPPING UP THE PRESENTATION.
19:48:50 >> I HAVE ONE OTHER POINT IF I CAN ASK FOR THE
COUNCIL'S INDULGENCE?
19:48:55 >> QUICKLY -- I BELIEVE I AM THE LAST SPEAKER THIS
EVENING.
I UNDERSTAND SOME QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL IN ACCESSING
GANDY BOULEVARD.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE APPLICANT DOESN'T OWN THAT
RIGHT.
THEY DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY.
THAT IS AN EASEMENT THAT IS PROVIDED THROUGH THE
DECLARATIONS.
IF THE DECLARATIONS ARE HONORED AND UTILIZED WITH THE
PUMP TO PROVIDING ACCESS WITH GANDY HAS TO BE RESPECTED
WITH THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO OPERATE
A PROJECT THAT IS NOT RETAIL.
NOW THE EXCEPTION TO THAT WOULD BE THEY WOULD HAVE TO
GET CONSENT BY MY CLIENT, WHO OWNS PARCEL A WITHIN THE
PLAZA.
THAT IS THE ONLY BASIS WHERE AN OPERATION OR ACTIVITY
OTHER THAN RETAIL CAN BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE PLAZA
ITSELF.
SO BEFORE THE APPLICANT CAN MOVE FORWARD, THEY ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO GET PASS -- AND GET MY CLIENTS
APPROVAL AND CONSENT WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND
WILL NOT HAPPEN BASED ON THE CURRENT PLANS PROPOSED,
BASED ON THE FOREGOING WE WILL ASK FOR THE COUNCIL TO
DECLINE THE ACTION FOR REZONING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[APPLAUSE]
19:50:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:50:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
COUNSELOR, I AM CONFUSED BUT I
THINK YOU CLARIFIED IT A LITTLE BIT.
FROM -- FROM THE OAKELLAR NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE,
TAKE -- TAKE YOUR CHURCH HAT OFF FOR A SECOND.
FROM THE OAKELLAR NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT
WOULD BE BETTER AND ASSUMING THEY HAD THE LEGAL RIGHT
AND THE CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS TO BUILD THIS APARTMENT
COMPLEX, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER NOT TO ROUTE
THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT IS JUST AS A COUNCILMAN.
I WOULD RATHER SEE IT GO IN AND OUT OF GANDY BOULEVARD.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, AND THIS IS SORT OF A LEGAL
QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THESE
DOCUMENTS.
DO THEY HAVE ACCESS ACROSS THAT PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW
TO GET TO GANDY.
THAT IS MY BASIC QUESTION.
19:50:57 >> YES, THEY DO.
THERE IS -- THERE IS A CROSS EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT
ALLOWS ALL THE OWNERS WITHIN THE PLAZA TO UTILIZE
ACCESS TO AND FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS ON BOTH SIDES OF
THE PARCEL.
BUT THE ISSUE WE ARE LOOKING AT IS NOT JUST THE
EASEMENT.
IF 300 OF THE 584 PARKING SPACES ARE SEQUESTERED.
THAT DOESN'T LEAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR ANY OTHER
BUSINESS TO OPERATE.
THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS IF -- IF THAT IS PERMITTED,
THEN MY CLIENT WON'T HAVE REQUISITE NUMBER OF PARKING
TO OPERATE ITS ACTIVITIES AS A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
19:51:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
RIGHT.
19:51:38 >> THEN IT HAS TO SHUT DOWN.
19:51:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MY CONCERN IS EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS
LIKE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FROM YOUR CLIENT'S PERSPECTIVE,
IF I ASK MISS WELLS OUR ATTORNEY WATCHING, SHE IS
PROBABLY GOING TO TELL US THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE BETWEEN
PRIVATE PARTIES AND THE COUNCIL CAN'T NECESSARILY
INCLUDE IN THEIR ZONING CONSIDERATION.
MR. WELLS ARE WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT.
19:52:06 >>CATE WELLS:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, A FEW
THINGS MENTIONED WITH RESPECT TO THE ALLEGATIONS THERE
IS A QUESTION OF OWNERSHIP.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HEARING OF THAT.
BUT IF THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT OWNERSHIP AND IT IS
UNCLEAR WHO IS THE APPROPRIATE PARTY TO BE MOVING
FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
FROM MR. MICHELINI ON THAT ISSUE.
WITH RESPECT TO THE PRIVATE COVENANTS, YOU ARE CORRECT,
THOSE ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY AND WOULD BE
BEYOND THE REACH FOR CITY COUNCIL DURING TODAY'S
MEETING.
WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING SPACES, THIS SITE PLAN THAT
IS SUBMITTED TO YOU MUST BE A SITE PLAN -- MUST INCLUDE
ONLY THAT PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN THE APPLICANT'S
OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL.
19:52:55 >> THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT.
19:52:57 >>CATE WELLS:
THEY ARE SHOWING PARKING FOR THIS
PROJECT THAT IS SHARED WITH ANOTHER USE.
THAT NEEDS FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH OUR STAFF.
BECAUSE IT WOULD -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD MOVE
FORWARD WITH A SITE PLAN THAT INCLUDES PROPERTY THAT
PERHAPS IS -- IS OWNED BY ANOTHER ENTITY THAT HAS NOT
CONSENTED TO THIS APPLICATION.
SO A YOU FEW QUESTIONS PROCEDURALLY OF HOW WE WILL MOVE
FORWARD WITH THIS BASED ON THIS TESTIMONY.
19:53:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MISS WELLS.
THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.
19:53:32 >> THANK YOU.
19:53:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
AND COUNSEL, WITH PENDING LITIGATION
WITH THIS PROPERTY AND HOPEFULLY WILL GET INFORMATION
FROM MR. MICHELINI.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
19:53:49 >> DID YOU WANT ME TO RESPOND TO THIS, COUNCILMAN?
19:53:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL WAIT FOR REBUTTAL AND GET
THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND GET TO IT.
19:53:55 >> OKAY, THAT IS FINE.
19:53:59 >> NO MORE PERSONS HERE AT THIS MOMENT.
GUDES NO MORE PERSONS?
OKAY.
WE WILL GO TO REBUTTAL.
MR. MICHELINI.
19:54:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE THE ONLINE.
19:54:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I FORGOT.
19:54:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WISHFUL THINKING.
19:54:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINE.
19:54:25 >> CHAIR, I AM CURRENTLY BRINGING FIVE OVER AT A TIME
BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW.
19:54:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OKAY, SWEAR THOSE FIVE IN AT A TIME
THEN.
19:54:55 >>CLERK:
I NEED KEVIN FRIDY, LARRY GISPERT, STEPHANIE
POYNOR, SARAH FRIDY TO TURN ON YOUR MIC AND TURN ON
YOUR VIDEO.
19:55:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WAITING FOR ONE MORE, DEPUTY CLERK.
19:55:32 >>CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH FOR THE RECORD,
THE CLERK DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
19:55:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
START WITH KEVIN FRIDY.
19:55:47 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
19:55:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR.
19:55:54 >> IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR IMAGE 2040 MAP OF TAMPA, THE
PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS QUOTED FOR -- CODED FOR HIGH
INTENSITY SUBURBAN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH IS
CODED ESTABLISHED.
I WOULD ARGUE A FOUR-STORY BUILDING WITH 300 UNITS,
MOST OF THEM MICRO FACING OAKELLAR IS NOT IN KEEPING
WITH THE CITY PLAN FOR HIGH INTENSITY SUBURBAN.
ORIENTED A STRUCTURE IN SUCH A WAY TO DIRECT TRAFFIC
INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NORTH IS NOT IN KEEPING
WITH THE CITY PLAN FOR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
HIGH INTENSITY SUBURBAN IS NOTED FOR LOW-RISE
BUILDINGS.
SO THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR MID-RISE STRUCTURES,
THESE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS RATHER THAN THE RULE.
THERE IS A LIMITED TRANSIT AVAILABILITY.
SO THE ASSUMPTION BE THAT THE COMPLEX SHOULD NOT HAVE
THE WAIVER GRANTED FOR PARKING.
YOUR PLAN CALLS FOR PLANTABLE SPACES.
AND YET THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO REDUCE BY
APPROXIMATELY HALF THE AREA PROPOSED JUST THE OPPOSITE.
IN ITS THREE YEARS OF EXISTENCE 81 BREWERY HAVE BECOME
A PLACE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD LIVING ROOM A PLACE TO MEET
FOR NEIGHBORS AND TALK TO THE COMMUNION.
IF YOU MAKE WAY FOR THE PROPOSAL WE WILL LOSE THIS
VALUABLE SPACE IN THIS REZONING -- THAT THE FIRER IN
THE ZONING HAVE OPENLY DISPARAGED.
WHAT WOULD THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GAIN?
I SENT YOU A PARKING MAP.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS SET CLOSE TO RESIDENT HOUSING
AND OAKELLAR DESPITE THE ADDRESS.
PUSHES THE STRUCTURE ABOUT 100 FEET FROM A
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
CURRENT OCCUPANT IS 90 YEARS OLD.
WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS CREATING -- IF YOU ALLOW THIS
BUILDING A SITUATION RIFE FOR CONFLICT.
MUCH OF THE 4600 OF CORTEZ AND HESPERIDES IS FURTHER
THAN THE PARKING SPACE WHICH IS 300 FEET AWAY.
THE STAPLE CAN BE SAID FOR THE BANK OF AMERICA, CVS AND
GRACE FAMILY CHURCH LOT, THREE WONDERFUL CORPORATE
NEIGHBORS, I MIGHT ADD.
AND ALSO OAKELLAR AVENUE AND THE ACCESS ROAD CONNECTING
OAKELLAR TO CVS.
THIS WILL PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR RESIDENTS TO PARK IN
THE NEIGHBORING RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND I
WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS NORTH,
SOUTH, HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.
SO WHILE THE REST OF THE CITY -- MUCH OF THE REST OF
THE CITY IS GETTING BIKE LANES BECAUSE OF THE MAYOR'S
PLAN, WE ARE GOING TO GET LOTS AND LOTS OF PARKING FROM
THESE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, WHICH WILL FORCE OUR KIDS
TO WALK NOT ON THE CURB WHERE THEY CURRENTLY WALK BUT
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR THREE THINGS.
WANT TO ZONED FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
THEY WANT FEWER PARKING SPACES.
THEY WANT LESS GREEN SPACES.
NONE GO WITH YOUR PROPOSED PLAN.
ALL OF THIS HURTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT YOU SHOULD EASILY OBJECT.
IF YOU APPROVE IT, YOU ARE GIVING DEVELOPERS A SIGN
THAT ANYTHING CAN GO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
19:59:10 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
LARRY GISPERT.
UNMUTE YOURSELF.
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
WILL YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
19:59:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU AT ALL.
19:59:38 >>CLERK:
CLICK THE MICROPHONE.
THE RED MICROPHONE ON THE PANEL.
19:59:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SHE NEEDS TO YOU CLICK THE RED
MICROPHONE ON THE PANEL.
20:00:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SEE THE MICROPHONE ON THE COMPUTER.
20:00:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE WILL COME BACK TO HIM.
TO STEPHANIE POYNOR.
[INAUDIBLE]
20:00:12 >> GOOD EVENING, MY FRIENDS.
20:00:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOOD EVENING.
20:00:17 >> I AM GOING TO START AT THE END OF MY SPEECH, BECAUSE
I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IS
AFFORDABLE.
AND I HAD A LESSON WITH A FRIEND OF MINE FROM
LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY WHO IS CONSIDERED AN EXPERT BY
HUD.
AND SHE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE WAY THEY CALCULATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACCORDING TO HUD IS TO TAKE 80% OF
THE MEDIAN INCOME.
THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR BAYSHORE WEST WHICH IS THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH THIS LOCATION IS THIS IS AROUND
$48,000.
YOU REDUCE THAT TO $38,140.
THEN YOU TAKE 30% OF THAT 80% AND THAT IS HOW YOU
CALCULATE HOW MUCH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT CAN COST.
BUT IT MUST INCLUDE UTILITIES.
SO FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA, ACCORDING TO CENSUS DATA,
$953.50 IS WHAT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD COST
INCLUDING UTILITIES -- DON'T LEAVE THOSE UTILITIES OUT.
SO WHATEVER MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM COME BACK WITH,
IT BETTER BE LESS THAN $900 A MONTH AT LEAST.
ANYWAY, LET ME GET BACK TO MY ORIGINAL TASK.
STOP OVERBUILDING MONSTER APARTMENTS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I SAID IT BEFORE.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.
YES, I KNOW THIS ISN'T SOUTH OF GANDY, BUT IT CERTAINLY
IS CLOSE ENOUGH FOR GOVERNMENT WORK.
SPEAKING OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS
ON PAGE 14 AND 15 THAT SOUTH TAMPA IS DEFINED AS AN
AREA OF STAYABILITY.
SOUTH TAMPA NEEDS MORE SUSTAINABLE MIX OF USES THAT
PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF
RESIDENTS ALONG THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATED CORRIDORS IS
ANOTHER WAY TO ENHANCE NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY AND
STABILITY.
YET HERE WE ARE, TALKING ABOUT TEARING DOWN SOMETHING
THAT FOLKS ARE BEGGING FOR IN ORDER TO PACIFY A DEVELOP
OTHER WANTS TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY WE ARE
VEHEMENTLY AGAINST.
STOP BUILDING MONSTER APARTMENT SOUTH TAMPA.
I KNOW THE LAWS ABOUT LANDOWNER RIGHTS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE LANDOWNERS IN BAY SIDE WEST.
WHAT ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS WHEN YOU JAM 305, 313, WHAT
DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE INTO A SPACE OF 6.687 WITH
SUPPOSEDLY THREE EXITS.
THIS IS WHAT THE PAPERWORK SAYS.
I DIDN'T MAKE THIS UP.
THOSE THREE -- ARE GOING TO BE.
SORRY?
OAKELLAR, MANHATTAN AND GANDY.
I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING BUT OAKELLAR ON THEIR SITE PLANS.
OAKELLAR IS A LOCAL ROAD.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE SHOT DOWN IF IT WASN'T THROUGH THE
NORMAL ZONING PROCESS.
IT WOULD NEVER GET TO THIS POINT IF IT WERE -- IF IT
WERE IN A REGULAR ZONING PROCESS.
GANDY, YOU CAN ONLY TURN WEST ON TO GANDY FROM THAT
PROPERTY.
MANHATTAN.
20:03:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MISS POYNOR.
20:03:30 >> PLEASE, PLEASE LET ME FINISH.
PLEASE.
20:03:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
TEN SECONDS.
TEN SECONDS.
20:03:37 >> YOU ARE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS GOING NORTH
ON MANHATTAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL GO THROUGH TO MANHATTAN.
MR. SCOTT ONLY ASKED FOR THE EASEMENT TO BE UPLOADED ON
THE ACELA FOR GANDY.
HE DID NOT ASK FOR THE EASEMENT WHERE THE EXIT ON TO --
ON TO MANHATTAN.
SO WHERE IS THE EASEMENT GOING TO BE?
CITY OF TAMPA OWNS THE LAND.
BANK OF AMERICA OWNS THE LAND.
AND CVS OWNS THE LAND.
NOBODY SHOWS WHERE THEY WILL GET OUT ON MANHATTAN.
PLEASE LET'S HEAR IT FROM MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM.
20:04:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
20:04:13 >> LARRY GISPERT.
I HAVE MICROPHONE.
20:04:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SIR, WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU.
20:04:18 >> ARE YOU READY?
20:04:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, I AM READY.
20:04:21 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS LARRY GISPERT.
MY WIFE SHIRLEY AND I LIVE AT CORTEZ AVENUE AND LIVE
THERE FOR OVER 31 YEARS.
THE PROPERTY INDICATED IN THE PROPERTY FOR REZONING IS
LESS THAN 150 FEET FROM MY FRONT DOOR.
NOW I SENT IN A TWO-PAGE E-MAIL WITH ALL MY ISSUES BUT
BECAUSE OF TIME I WILL TRY SUMMARIZE.
I HAVE THREE ISSUES.
THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD HURRICANE EVACUATION, THE USE
OF OAKELLAR AND ALSO LOCALIZED FLOODING.
THE CURRENT CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALSO
CALLED IMAGINE 2040.
THAT IS A GREAT NAME, STATES THAT THE OBJECTIVE OF THE
CITY IS TO THE TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THE
POPULATION RESIDING WANT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA ALSO
KNOWN AS HURRICANE EVACUATION LEVEL A.
THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR THE REZONING APPLICATION LIES
IN THAT AREA.
I SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MY PROFESSIONAL TIME
WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS THEIR
DIRECTOR FOR 17 YEARS TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO
EVACUATE OUT OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
LET ME TELL YOU MY BATTING AVERAGE WAS NOT THAT GREAT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE.
THIS THING OF FIVE DAY PRIOR EVENT AND COUNTING DOWN.
THAT IS HORSE MANEUVER.
POLITICAL LEADERSHIP WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT TO PULL
THE TRIGGER AND AS A CONSEQUENCE A MASS EVACUATION IF
THERE IS ONE AT ALL.
YOU DON'T NEED 300-PLUS PEOPLE WITH THEIR CARS INTO THE
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
THE CURRENT PLANS SHOW THEY WILL BE INGRESSING AND
EGRESSING OFF OF OAKELLAR AVENUE, A SMALL RESIDENTIAL
AREA WITH A SPEED LIMIT OF 25 MILES PER HOUR.
IF YOU FOLLOW THE NORMAL TRAFFIC LOAD THEY GO DOWN TO
MANHATTAN, AN INTERSECTION CONTROLLED BY A STOP SIGN
ONLY.
MANHATTAN IS A MAYOR ARTERIAL THROUGH PUT NORTH AND
SOUTH AND HAVE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH THE
MIDDLE LANE FOR TURNING.
THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CURRENTLY
RATES MANHATTAN'S LEVEL OF SERVICE AS D AS IN DELTA.
AND THIS MANHATTAN WILL STOP AND COME TO A STOP WITHIN
NORMAL PEAK HOURS.
A HORRIBLE PLACE FOR EVACUATION.
OPINION ONE OF THE BIGGEST INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS WE
HAVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU AND IT
HAS BEEN FOR CENTURIES IS LOCALIZED STREET FLOODING.
MANHATTAN AVENUE TRADITIONALLY GOES UNDER WATER WITH
SEVERAL INCHES OF RAIN ESPECIALLY IF THE RAINFALL
OCCURS AT SAME TIME AS HIGH TIDE IN TAMPA BAY WHICH BY
THE WAY IS A MILE AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY.
THE LAST TIME MANHATTAN WENT UNDER WATER YOU COULD NOT
GET OUT TO THE NORTH OR SOUTH UNLESS YOU WERE WILLING
TO CHANCE YOUR CAR STALLING BECAUSE OF THE WATER.
PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL 300 RESIDENTS AND THEIR VEHICLES
IN AN AREA THAT ONLY HAS TO ACCESS MANHATTAN TO GET OUT
IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE.
FINALLY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO THE NORTH OF IT, 150
FEET, IS A BEAUTIFUL TREE-LINED SUBDIVISION IN SOUTH
TAMPA.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE NORTH-SOUTH STREETS CORTEZ,
HESPERIDES, ETC.
DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THEM.
RESIDENTS HAVE TO WALK ALONGSIDE ROAD IN ORDER TO DO
SOMETHING.
WE NOW HAVE PROBLEMS DODGING CARS BECAUSE CARS WILL USE
OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS TO BYPASS MANHATTAN WHEN IT IS
BACKED UP.
IF YOU PUT 300-PLUS VEHICLES, IT IS GOING TO BE A
HORRIBLE TROUBLE.
I WAS PERSONALLY HIT BY A VEHICLE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
IT IS NOT FUN.
20:08:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
20:08:00 >> FINALLY --
20:08:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
20:08:03 >> THANK YOU.
20:08:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. GISPERT.
MR. CHAIRMAN.
CALLING PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
MR. GISPERT, I KNOW YOU SERVED OUR COUNTY AND OUR
COMMUNITY FOR DECADES DURING EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND
EVERYTHING ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY
FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, AND FRANKLY, THIS
COUNCILMAN IS GOING TO BE TAPPING INTO SOME OF THAT
KNOWLEDGE OVER THE NEXT YEAR AS WE DISCUSS THESE
IMPORTANT ISSUES.
SO, THANK YOU, MR. GISPERT.
20:08:39 >> THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
GLADLY, CALL ME ANY TIME.
20:08:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, PETE TRELA.
20:08:46 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU THE HARD WORK FOR
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I AM SPEAKING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO
REZONING.
MY WIFE AND TWO CHILDREN HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS ON SOUTH
CORTEZ.
WE ARE LESS THAN 2,000 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
OUR CONCERNS ARE PLENTY BUT WE WANT TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC
CONCERNS THAT DO NOT GO WITH THE CURRENT GROWTH OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
FIRST, LITTLE OUT OF LINE OF WHAT I HAD PREPARED.
I KEEP HEARING AFFORDABLE OR NICE CATCHY TERM
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN
ONE OR TWO BEDROOM HOUSING.
CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING I BELIEVE THAT MR. MIRANDA
MENTIONED I CAN RENT MY CLOSET FOR $50 A MONTH.
I DON'T THINK MY CLOSET WILL BE VERY COMFORTABLE BUT IT
IS VERY AFFORDABLE.
CURRENTLY THE PARCEL THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING IS ZONED
COMMERCIAL AND PROVIDE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK OUT TO A FARMER'S MARKET AND LIVE
MUSIC, MARTIAL ARTS AND AS WELL AS PURCHASE PRODUCTS
THAT ARE NOT FOR MY WIFE AND DAUGHTERS.
THESE EXACT BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL ON THIS
PARCEL THROUGHOUT PANDEMIC THAT SPEAKS A LOT TO THE
VIABILITY.
LOSING THESE BUSINESSES HURT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
KEEPING THIS IN INTACT IS MY PERSONAL PRIORITY.
AND THE PARCEL OF LAND FOR THE APARTMENTS WILL HAVE
ONLY ACCESS FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM OAKELLAR ROAD
WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
I LOOKED EVERYWHERE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND SPOKE TO
RESIDENTS FOR OVER 15 YEARS AND I CANNOT FIND ONE
EXAMPLE OF A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS THEIR
MAIN ACCESS TO AND FROM A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
EVERY OTHER COMPLEX HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO A MAIN LOAN
AND TRAFFIC TO FLOW ON TO AND OFF OF A ROAD DESIGNATED
FOR HIGH TRAFFIC.
THERE IS NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON ANY OF THE OUTBOUND ROADS
FURTHER CREATING TRAFFIC WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD STOP
SIGN.
THE BUSINESSES ON THIS PARCEL AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
MENTION READY MOSTLY ACCESSED BY GANDY BOULEVARD AND WE
DO NOT CONSIDER THE CONCERNS OF THIS PROJECT IF IT
PASSES AS IT IS PROPOSED.
THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN TAMPA, WALKING, BIKING HAVE
TO APPROVE AND WE KNEE FOR DECADES.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PART OF THIS ISSUE BECAUSE ZERO
SIDEWALKS RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
AND FURTHER INCREASING OUR CONCERN AND ADDING 400-PLUS
VEHICLES RESIDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO ACCESS TO
GANDY OR WEST SHORE WITHOUT USING RESIDENTIAL.
LASTLY TWO SPECIFIC VARIANCES THAT THE DEVELOPER IS
ASKING FOR APPROVAL THAT FURTHER ELEVATES MY CONCERN IN
WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO FOR THE PROJECT.
ASKING FOR A REDUCTION OF REQUIRED PARKING PUTS
VISITORS TO THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX NEEDING TO PARK
THEIR VEHICLES ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS WHERE THERE ARE
NO SIDEWALKS.
SECONDLY, REDUCTION OF GREEN SPACE, WHICH I JUST FIND
HARD TO BELIEVE IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, WE IN TAMPA CAN
ALL AGREE CREATING A MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY
SPACE HAVE ZERO DRAWBACKS OF IMPROVING OUR CITY'S
APPEARANCE AND VIABILITY.
IN THE END WE HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL REWORK THE
PLAN IN THE EXISTING LIFE-OFF OF THE PROPERTY.
HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ONLY PROPERTY WITH A LARGE
BUSINESS WILL NOT IMPROVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
20:12:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE CONTINUE TO SARAH FRIDY.
20:12:15 >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I AM THE RESIDENT THE OF THE 4600 BLOCK OF SOUTH
CORTEZ.
I LIVED HERE WITH MY HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER FOR 13 YEARS.
AND WE ARE LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ENTRANCE OF
THE PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE VISITOR ENTRANCE.
I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED FOR THE SAFETY OF BIKERS,
PEDESTRIANS, AND, IN PARTICULAR, MY CHILD AND THE OTHER
CHILDREN WHO LIVE ON THIS STREET.
AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THE DEVELOPER'S TRAFFIC STUDY SUGGESTS DIMINIMUS IMPACT
AND MAKES ASSUMPTIONS OF CURRENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND
DOES NOT CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY IT FACES.
SOME OF US WHO LIVE ON THE 4600 BLOCK OF SOUTH CORTEZ
AVE COLLECTED TEN HOURS OF TRAFFIC DATA ON OUR STREET
NEIGHBORING THE PROPOSED APARTMENTS.
VERY FEW CARS PARKED ON OUR STREET THROUGHOUT OUR
OBSERVATIONS.
DURING MORNING AND EVENING RUSH SHOWER, DURING NONRUSH
HOUR, WEEKDAY TIME AND DURING WEEKENDS, VEHICULAR
TRAFFIC AVERAGES WERE UNDER EIGHTS PER HOUR.
YOU RECEIVED THIS DATA AS AN ATTACHMENT IN ANOTHER
RESIDENT'S E-MAIL TO YOU.
ALLOWING AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT ON OAKELLAR WILL
DRASTICALLY INCREASE OUR TRAFFIC AS OUR STREETS WILL BE
USED AS A CUT-THRU FOR THE APARTMENTS.
OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE REAPING THE BENEFITS OF THE
MAYOR'S COMPLETE STREETS, THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO
YOU APPROVE VARIANCES THAT WILL MAKE OUR STREETS LESS
SAFE.
THE BUILDING HAS A GANDY ADDRESS AND SHOULD BE GANDY
FACING.
THE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY NEW BE NEGLIGIBLE.
PROPOSE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE ON
PARKING SPOTS.
AS YOU KNOW, TAMPA IS ONE OF THE LEAST SAFE CITIES FOR
PEDESTRIANS AND BIKE RIDERS.
THE REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING SPOTS WILL DIRECTLY
IMPACT OUR STREETS AND OUR NEIGHBORING STREETS.
IN THE EVENINGS AND ON WEEKENDS, OUR CHILDREN VISIT
EACH OTHER'S YARDS AND RIDE THEIR BIKES IN THE STREETS
AS THERE ARE NO NORTH-SOUTH SIDEWALKS.
IF YOU PROVIDE THE VARIANCE ON PARKING, VISITORS AND
RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL USE OUR STREETS
FOR OVERFLOW PARKING.
PROVIDING OUR PARKING VARIANCE WILL FORCE OUR KIDS TO
WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET THAN THE SHOULDER OF
THE STREET.
THEY WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES BECAUSE
PARKED CAR ALSO POSE TOO MANY SAFETY HAZARDS FOR THEM.
PLEASE REJECT THE PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEX AND
REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE A SAFER PLAN THAT IS
CONSIDERATE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:14:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, OUR NEXT FIVE TO BE SWORN IN?
20:15:04 >>CLERK:
YES, I HAVE TWO THAT ARE NOT ON -- ANNA
DEDIEGO AND CHRISTINA ROTHSTEIN, IF YOU CAN TURN ON
YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES, PLEASE.
AGAIN, ANNA DEDIEGO, IF YOU CAN TURN ON YOUR VIDEO IF
YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
20:15:34 >> I AM NOT HERE NOR PROPOSAL.
I'M HERE FOR ANOTHER ONE.
20:15:40 >>CLERK:
OKAY.
WHICH ITEM ARE YOU ON FOR.
20:15:45 >> FOR THE 21-05.
THE 2511 WEST VIRGINIA LOCATION.
20:15:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT WAS CONTINUED.
20:15:55 >>CLERK:
THANK YOU, JUST STANDBY.
20:15:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SHE IS ON 21-05.
THAT WAS CONTINUED.
20:16:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE OCTOBER 14 DATE.
20:16:05 >>CLERK:
ANNA.
DID YOU HEAR THAT?
20:16:11 >> 2511 WEST VIRGINIA GOT POSTPONED.
20:16:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
IT WAS CONTINUED ON A MOTION OF THE APPLICANT TO
OCTOBER 14 OF 2021 AT 6 P.M. AND IF YOU ARE WITHIN A
NOTICE AREA YOU WILL RECEIVE NOTICE OTHERWISE IT WILL
BE POSTED.
BUT YOU SHOULD MAKE THE DATE PLEASE AND MARK IT OCTOBER
14 AT 6 P.M.
20:16:39 >> THANK YOU.
20:16:41 >>CLERK:
ALL RIGHT, CHAIR.
GO AHEAD AND SWEAR ON THE ONES THAT ARE HERE, THANK
YOU.
20:16:54 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH,
THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
20:17:10 >> I DO.
20:17:11 >> THANK YOU.
20:17:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
START OFF WITH ANNA DEDIEGO.
I SAW -- I SAW -- SHE LOGGED OFF.
OKAY, GO TO -- TO STEPHANIE DOSAL.
I SEE --
20:17:39 >> YES.
20:17:45 >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, JL KOGGE AND MARCUS DOSAL.
20:17:50 >> MARCUS DOSAL IS THE HUSBAND OF STEPHANIE DOSAL.
I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK ON MARCUS BECAUSE HE CAN'T
BE HERE TONIGHT.
20:18:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MARCUS DOSAL.
20:18:03 >> YES.
MY NAME IS LANE ANDREWS.
I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MARCUS BECAUSE HE
CAN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT.
20:18:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT IS FINE.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
20:18:14 >> THANK YOU.
I AM THE OWNER OF SOUTH TAMPA JUJITSU AND MMA, A
SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN THE PLAZA THAT REALLY HAVEN'T
BEEN ADDRESSED VERY MUCH TONIGHT.
WE ARE A RELATIVELY NEW BUSINESS THERE.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A STRONG BUSINESS.
WE MADE IT THROUGH COVID.
AND JUST WHEN BUSINESS IS STARTING TO PICK UP, WE FIND
OUT ABOUT THIS BUILDING PROJECT GOING ON.
SO ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, THEY REFERENCED EARLIER LIKE THIS
APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL BE A PLACE FOR HEROES TO LIVE.
THE HEROES TRAIN AT MY GYM.
I HAVE FIRE FIGHTERS.
I HAVE POLICE OFFICERS.
I HAVE MILITARY PEOPLE.
WE HAVE KIDS FROM AGE 3 TO SENIORS AT AGE 65.
MANY OF THEM ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE
AFFECTED BY THIS.
YOU KNOW, THERE IS SUCH AN EMPHASIS ON BUILDING IN
SOUTH TAMPA.
AND THE CONTINUAL BUILDING OF THESE HUGE APARTMENT
COMPLEXES.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS MORE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES
THAT ARE FAMILY SERVICES, YOU KNOW.
BUSINESSES LIKE MINE.
BUSINESSES LIKE 81 BAY.
PEOPLE COME TO MY GYM NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY NEED A
WORKOUT.
THEY COME THERE BECAUSE IT'S -- IT'S A COMMUNITY, A
SOCIAL THING FOR THEM NOT TO MENTION ALL THE STRESS
RELIEF IT PROVIDES.
WE HAVE BEEN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN THERE.
WE MOVED IN 2019.
WE MORE THAN DOUBLED THE ENROLLMENT SINCE THEN.
UP 300 MEMBERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF
KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT TRAIN THERE.
I THINK IT IS AN UNFORTUNATE TIME TO TELL BUSINESSES
LIKE SOUTH TAMPA JUJITSU AND 81 BAY THAT THEY NEED TO
MOVE JUST WHEN WE ARE STARTING TO RECOVER FROM COVID.
THE BUSINESS -- ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES ABIDED BY THE
RULES SET FORTH BY THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THE EXPENSE
OF OUR BUSINESS AND OUR PERSONAL LIVELIHOOD TO ABIDE BY
ALL THE RULES OF COVID AND PRO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.
NOW IS OUR TIME TO GROW OUT OF THAT.
OUR BUSINESSES HAVE TO RELOCATE WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS
EXPENSE.
AND IN THE CASE OF 81 BAY.
I AM NOT EVEN SURE IF IT IS REASONABLE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS PROPERTY COULD BE BETTER USED IF
SOMEONE WOULD INVEST IN IT.
THEY TALKED OF THE HISTORY OF LITIGATION WITH THE PRIOR
OWNER THERE.
IN THE 81 BAYSIDE.
I DO NOT THINK THAT THEY CURRENTLY OWN THE PART OF THE
STRIP THAT I AM IN.
I AM RIGHT NEXT TO GRACE CHURCH.
I THINK THAT IS STILL OWN BY GANDY PARTNERS IF YOU WANT
TO LOOK INTO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN ATTRACT RETAILERS HERE NOW
THAT THE PRIOR OWNER IS GONE GIVEN THE HISTORY OF
LITIGATION THERE.
SO I WOULD ASK -- OBVIOUSLY I AM STRONGLY OPPOSING THIS
MOVE.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME AND
HEAR MY THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU.
20:21:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
GO TO CATHERINE YANT.
20:21:21 >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING.
I AM A RESIDENT OF THE 4500 BLOCK OF COOPER PLACE.
COOPER IS ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN MANHATTAN AND WEST
SHORE.
AND WE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT A BLOCK FROM THE PROPOSED
ENTRANCE ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED.
AND WE STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED.
MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE HERE WITH OUR THREE SMALL
CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, WE ENJOYED OUR
FAMILY WALKS AND BEING ABLE TO GO OUT, TEACH OUR
DAUGHTER HOW TO RIDE HER BIKE ON THE STREET.
AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOTED THERE ARE NO NORTH-SOUTH
SIDEWALKS IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO TEACH OUR DAUGHTER HOW TO RIDE HER
BIKE ON THE STREET BECAUSE, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID,
THAT SLOWDOWN IN TRAFFIC.
NOW WE ARE TALKING OF ADDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH,
AGAIN, THE ONLY INFORMATION ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS
PROPOSED, THE ONLY INGRESS AND EGRESS IS GOING TO BE
RIGHT ON OAKELLAR ABOUT A BLOCK FROM OUR HOUSE.
AND WHILE THEY HAVE USED TRAFFIC COMPARISONS BASED ON
WHAT APPEARS TO BE A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY FOR THAT AREA.
MR. DINGFELDER SAID THAT IT DOESN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE
THAT THEY ARE USING THE MINIMAL IMPACT OF TRAFFIC BASED
ON THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND THAT DRIVEWAY THAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO ON
OAKELLAR THAT EMPTIES ON TO OAKELLAR, I DRIVE PAST IT A
DOZEN TIMES A DAY DOING VARIOUS PICK-UPS AND DROP-OFFS
WITH MY KIDS AND IT IS HARDLY UTILIZED.
THERE ARE NOT MANY CARS THERE.
AND THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO CREATE A SIGNIFICANT
NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE THREE CROSS STREETS, THE EAST-WEST CROSS STREETS
THAT DUMP ON MANHATTAN AND WEST SHORE ARE FAIR OAKS,
COACHMAN AND OAKELLAR.
NONE OF THOSE STREETS HAVE A LIGHT.
AT MANHATTAN OR AT WEST SHORE.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ON THOSE TWO STREETS, TRYING TO
TURN LEFT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.
THE SUICIDE LANE REALLY FEELS LIKE A SUICIDE MISSION
WHEN YOU ARE JUMPING OUT THERE IF YOU WERE TRYING TO
HEAD NORTH ON MANHATTAN.
AND WHEN IS WEST SHORE NOT BACKED UP.
IT IS GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT, AND
I IMPLORE TO YOU DENY THE REZONING APPLICATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:24:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
WE WILL GO TO MISS JL KOGGE.
20:24:13 >> UNMUTING.
ANYWAY, HI, SIR, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM VERY
EXCITED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY PARTICIPATE IN LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR
THIS TIME.
AT THIS TIME, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE PROPOSED
REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
TO THE NEXT DOOR APP, YOU CAN SEE THAT JOHN LUM CARES
FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE NEED CHAMPIONS LIKE THAT, BUT TO THE BEST OF MY
KNOWLEDGE HE DOESN'T LIVE HERE, AND I DON'T THINK MR.
GREIS DOES EITHER.
SO I THINK WHAT THE LAST YEAR HAS TAUGHT US THAT IT IS
VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDER TO LIVE IN EXPERIENCES AND I AM
GLAD YOU ARE TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US AND TAKE
OUR E-MAIL NOTES PRIOR.
I WROTE IN MY NOTE ABOUT TRAFFIC.
SO I WILL REPEAT THE OAKELLAR CONCERN AND WHAT WE ALSO
NEED TO FOCUS ON THE CHANGE IN MANHATTAN TRAFFIC.
IF I DO, I WOULD -- I DIDN'T SNAPSHOT MR. MICHELINI
RETAIL IN THE MAP WHERE HE HAD THE APPLEBEE'S LOGO.
I CAN PULL IT UP BUT I DIDN'T SNAPSHOT IT AT THE TIME.
A LOT OF RETAIL OCCURS ACROSS FROM MANHATTAN.
IF WE TURN THIS INTO THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL BE MORE
PEOPLE MOVING FROM -- IN WALKING DISTANCE ACROSS
MANHATTAN.
ALL THAT AWESOME RETAIL -- A LOT OF IT IS ACROSS THE
STREET.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT MANHATTAN
MITIGATION.
JUST TODAY AS I TURNED RIGHT ON TO MANHATTAN FROM GANDY
THREE PEOPLE WERE CROSSING THE STREET NOT USING THE
CROSSWALK.
ALL OF THEM LOOKED TO BE UP IN AGE.
AND WERE MAKING AN ESTIMATE WHEN TO CROSS MANHATTAN AT
A SAFE TIME.
I SUSPECT THE ARGUMENT MIGHT BE THAT THE AREA WILL NOT
SUPPORT MIXED USE, BUT IN THIS LAST YEAR, I THINK WE
CAN'T RELY ON WAY WE USED TO DO THINGS.
ADDITIONALLY THE LOGIC ARGUMENT I HEARD IN FAVOR ARE
FALLACY.
THAT MEANS THEY SOUND GOOD BUT CANNOT BE PROVEN AT THE
TIME.
FOR EXAMPLE THE TRAFFIC STUDY PROJECTION THAT THEY HAVE
MADE IN INA ACCURATE HISTORICAL DATA THAT THIS
DEVELOPMENT WILL REDUCE TRAFFIC IS A NARRATIVE.
THAT IS NOT A FACT.
AIM FOR THIS TO BE AFFORDABLE AND AN ATTAINABLE, THAT
IS HEARTFELT HOPE, NOT FACT UNLESS THERE IS REGULATION.
MR. GREIS SAID HE MIGHT BE FORCED TO SELL THE PROPERTY,
THAT IS A NARRATIVE.
MADE $75 MILLION.
I DOUBT HE IS FORCE TODAY DO ANYTHING.
300 APARTMENTS WITH TRADITIONAL PARKING THAT REQUIRE
LESS GREEN SPACE.
FEELS LAZY AND DATED AND WITHOUT INNOVATIVE PEDESTRIAN
SOLUTIONS, IT ALSO SEEMS UNSAFE.
IN CONCLUSION I ASK THAT MR. LUM AND MR. GREIS EVEN FOR
A MOMENT ABANDON THEIR HISTORICAL LAND AND THINK OF THE
ART OF THE POSSIBLE.
INSTEAD OF LISTING THINGS COULD NOT WORK, THINK OF WHAT
COULD BE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:27:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE HAVE MISS CARROLL ANN BENNETT
NEXT.
20:27:19 >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANNE BENNETT, A LIFELONG
RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
UNITED RESIDENTS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
A GRASS-ROOTS GROUP ADVOCATING FOR GREATER DETERMINED
DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND YOU READ THEIR "NEW YORK
POST," FACEBOOK AND KNOW THEY ARE ADVOCATES OF TAMPA.
THEY SAY GROWTH HAS NO VALUE.
THEY SAY IF YOU WERE GROWING IN A WAY THAT INCREASES
QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT IS SMART GROWTH.
THAT IS WHAT URBAN TAMPA BAY ADVOCATES.
GROWING THE POPULATION IS MEANINGLESS IF IT DOES NOT
APPROVE PEOPLE'S DAY-TO-DAY LIFE.
GROWTH IS NOT AN END, IT IS A MEANS.
COMMERCIAL USE IN ALL APARTMENT PROJECTS, AND INCREASE
DENSITY AND WALK UP DESIGN ALONG SIDEWALKS.
THIS SMART GROWTH ENSURES THAT GROWTH IS CONTRIBUTING
TO A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE.
OPPOSING SMART GROWTH SAYS YOUR CONCERN PROPER
REGULATIONS OF PLAN ALSO HURT YOUR PERSONAL PROFITS.
URBAN TAMPA BAY SAYS WE ARE NOT AGAINST BUILDING MORE
APARTMENTS IN TAMPA.
WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS IN ORDER TO BLUNT RISING
HOUSING COSTS, BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE PROPERLY DESIGNED.
PROJECTS OF SIGNIFICANT SIZE NEED TO BE MIXED USE.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
DEVELOPER OBJECTIONS HERE ARE FRIVOLOUS.
THEY HAVE BEEN PLOPPING SINGLE-USE PROJECTS DOWN IN
TAMPA FOR SOME TIME NOW.
THIS HAS BEEN A HUGE CASH COW FOR THEM BUT DOES LITTLE
TO ENHANCE THE CITY.
THE CITY IS NOT A GUARANTOR OF DEVELOPER PROFITS AND
DESIGNED PREFERENCES.
PURELY PLANNED GROWTH LOWERS QUALITY OF LIFE.
TAMPA HAS GROWN DESPERATE TO IN DEMAND.
THAT MEANS IT IS TIME TO RAISE STANDARDS.
DON'T KEEP LOW DESIGN QUALITY JUST BUILD APARTMENTS
RAPIDLY.
THAT IS NOT BEING AFFORDABLE.
THAT IS BEING CHEAP.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE SHOULDN'T BE REPLACED WITH
HOUSING UNITS BECAUSE INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE EQUAL JOBS
AND WAGES.
THERE ARE LOTS OF USES WHICH COLLECT NICE RENTS FOR
COMMERCIAL LANDLORDS FOR OFFICE SPACE, MEDICAL OFFICES
AND NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL WITH A LOCAL DRAW.
THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO OWN THE SPACE
THEMSELVES BUT SELL IT TO OTHERS.
THAT IS HOW SKY POINT'S COMMERCIAL SPACE HANDLED.
DEVELOPERS LIKE TO PLAY DUMB OR PRETEND THE MARKET
ISN'T THERE FOR COMMERCIAL USES WHEN THE TRUTH IS THEY
ARE LAZY AND DON'T WANT TO DO SIGNIFICANCE OUTSIDE OF
THEIR HIGH MARGIN, RESIDENTIAL ONLY COMFORT ZONE.
ONE COMMENTER ON URBAN'S FACEBOOK PAGE SAID IT BEST.
ENTITIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON EXTRACTING AS MUCH PROFIT
FROM THIS COMMUNITY AS THEY CAN GET.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE GOVERNMENT FORCING THEM TO
TAKE A MORE THOUGHTFUL APPROACH FOR DEVELOPMENT OR NOT
BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE HERE.
THEY CAN GO TRASH SOME OTHER CITY.
THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE OURS UNLIVABLE ENOUGH.
THANK YOU.
20:30:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, WE HAVE OUR NEXT FIVE UP?
20:30:21 >>CLERK:
YES, SIR, I NEED LIANNE BENNATI TO TURN OFFER
HER VIDEO.
20:30:25 >> UH-OH.
HOW I DO DO THAT.
20:30:35 >> LIANNE, JUST TURN ON THE VIDEO ICON.
YOU SHOULD SEE THE VIDEO ICON IN THE PANEL.
20:30:43 >> OKAY.
THERE WE GO.
20:30:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
20:30:49 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH,
THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
20:30:55 >> YES, I DO.
20:30:55 >> I DO.
20:30:57 >> I DO.
20:31:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT, START OFF WITH HIS JEAN
STROHMEYER.
GOT YOU ON MUTE.
20:31:15 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
DO A SOUND CHECK?
OKAY.
HI, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, THE GOAL OUTLINED IN
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND USE WAS FOR SOUTH TAMPA
PENINSULA TO REMAIN STABLE WITH NO NET INCREASE IN
POPULATION DENSITY.
I AM NOT SURE WHY THIS IS SO DOVE COMPREHEND AND
IMPLEMENT SINCE POPULATION ALMOST DOUBLED IN FIVE
YEARS.
THIS PROJECT DID NOT HAVE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE.
MR. LUM MENTIONED -- HE IS BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
BY MENTIONING NURSES AND TEACHERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS
AND THAT IS JUST TO YANK YOUR HEARTSTRINGS.
I LIVED IN A STUDIO EFFICIENCY WHEN I WAS 15 -- 15 AND
16 YEARS OLD.
WHEN I GREW UP I HAD NO DESIRE TO LIVE THERE AGAIN.
PROFESSORS LIKE TEACHERS, FIRST RESPONDERS WANT TO LIVE
IN MICRO APARTMENTS AND NOT HAVE FAMILY WHEN THEY COME
TO VISIT THEY HAVE TO SLEEP ON THE MICRO FLOOR?
FAILING BUSINESSES AT THIS SITE.
WELL, HOW LONG DOES A BUSINESS HAVE TO BE IN BUSINESS
TO BE A SUCCESS?
WHAT MAKES IT A FAILURE.
THE SKATING RINK WAS SET UP TO FAIL.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE REAL SKATES.
COME IN KICK, MAKE A BUCK.
THE BREWERY IS AN ASSET.
EVERYBODY LOVES A BREWERY.
COULD THOSE BUSINESSES IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION BE
FAILING BECAUSE THE OWNER LACKS INTEREST IN THE AREA?
HE HAS BEEN TRYING TO SELL, GET RID OF AND HAD A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITY BUT JUST HAVEN'T DONE IT.
I HAVE HAD -- HIS PEOPLE TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
MICRO APARTMENTS AND STUDIO APARTMENTS ARE NOT THE
ANSWER.
WE NEED THESE BUSINESSES FOR JOBS.
AT THIS PROJECT, THEY WANT YOU TO RETAIN LESS THAN 40%
OF THE EXISTING TREES ON THE SITE.
THERE ARE BARELY ANY TREES THERE ANYWAY.
THEY WANT TO PAY INTO THE TREE FUND AND BE DONE WITH
IT.
IT IS ALL ABOUT THAT BUT NOT GREEN SPACE.
BASICALLY REMOVE ALL THE TREES ON THE SITE.
THEY WANT HALF THE GREEN SPACE AND WHERE WILL THE DOGS
POOP OR WILL THEY NOT HAVE THAT.
THEY WANT ZERO EASEMENT ON OAKELLAR AND KEEP FILLING
THE PENINSULA, AND KEEP ON TAKING AWAY OUR GREEN SPACES
AND IGNORE THE CITIZENS.
I AND OTHERS INCLUDING THE EXPERTS ARE -- WERE TOLD
THAT -- POTENTIAL TO DIE IN OUR CARS WHILE EVACUATING
DO YOU REMEMBER A STORM SURGE EVENT.
THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB IS TO KEEP THE CITIZENS.
IF A MAJOR EVACUATION HURRICANE, STORM SURGE AND
ANOTHER 9/11 AND WE DIDN'T GET OUT, I AND OUR NEIGHBORS
WILL REMEMBER EACH ONE OF YOU -- EVERY ONE OF YOU BY
NAME.
AND YOU WILL BE THE ONES WHO KILLED THEM.
WILL BE YOU.
AND I AM TELLING YOU.
SO, GOOD NIGHT AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.
20:34:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
MISS DENAULT.
MISS DENAULT.
20:34:18 >> GOOD EVENING, KALI DENAULT, THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
AND FOR THE REASONS BUT FOR -- BUT EXPRESSED OUR
DESPERATE NEED FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
NOT ONLY DOES THIS REMOVE AMAZING LOCAL BUSINESSES FROM
OUR COMMUNITY BUT THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO
THE CAMPAIGN.
THERE ARE -- THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE TREES THEY WILL
ADD AND REDUCE PARKING SPACES PUSHING PARKED CARS TO
THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEXT DOOR.
THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THE BUSINESS IS GANDY
BOULEVARD PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A
LEGITIMATE TRAFFIC STUDY HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY OPEN THE ROAD TO OAKELLAR.
IT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS THAT IT WILL IMPACT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD IN A POSITIVE WAY.
NOT ONLY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE APARTMENTS, BUT ALLOW
PEOPLE TO EASILY CUT THROUGH FROM GANDY TO WEST SHORE
AND AVOID GANDY.
DUE TO THE SIZE AND NATURE OF THE EXIST BUILDING AND
THE PARKING ON-SITE A GREAT LOCATION WITH A LOT OF
POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE BUSINESSES.
WITH MARKETING EFFORTS IN PLACE COULD BRING WHAT OUR
COMMUNITY IS DESPERATELY LACKING COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
OUR COMMUNITY COULD USE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT $12,300
FOR A STUDIO APARTMENT FEASIBLE FOR A FAMILY?
ARE WE REALLY CALLING THAT AFFORDABLE.
ATTAINABLE, SURE.
PRACTICAL FOR A FAMILY, NO.
ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT NURSES AND FIRST RESPONDERS DON'T
HAVE FAMILIES AND WON'T NEED ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS.
PLEASE DON'T SET THIS PRECEDENCE FOR FUTURE REZONING
REQUESTS.
WHAT WAS FAILED TO MENTION YOU FIT FAILED DURING
COVID-19.
A GYM.
THEY COULDN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE IT.
THEY LOST THEIR MEMBERS.
OF COURSE, IT WILL FAIL.
I UNDERSTAND VACANT SPACES IN THE BUILDING BUT WE ALL
KNOW WE ARE INCREASING THAT LOW FOOT TRAFFIC THAT WAS
MENTIONED.
INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THIS AREA LIKE CRAZY.
WE WILL HAVE TO ALLOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO FREQUENT
WHATEVER BUSINESS CAN MOVE INTO THE SPACES.
ACCORDING TO, METRO TAMPA IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO
START A BUSINESS PER WALLET HUB.
LET US LET THE ABILITY TO DO SO 81 BAY IS NOT ONLY ONE
OF THE BUSINESSES OF ITS KIND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT
GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT SUPPORTS OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES BY HOSTING MARKET
NIGHTS.
IT HOSTS EVENTS IN SUPPORT OF VETERANS.
IT WELCOMES FAMILY WITH KIDS BY PROVIDING GAMES, FOOD
TRUCKS AND LIVE MUSIC.
CONSISTENTLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ENTERTAIN THE
COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A LOCAL OUTLET FOR PEOPLE TO GO.
LOOK UP AND DOWN GANDY BOULEVARD TOE AND FROM WEST
SHORE.
CONSISTENTLY MIXED USE.
I ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE SPACE AS IS, COMMERCIAL
INTENSIVE CONSISTENT WITH GANDY BOULEVARD.
DON'T PENALIZE THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST AREA.
DO NOT ALLOW 300 CARS TO FEED INTO THE RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD BY OAKELLAR.
I ASK YOU TO RELY ON THIS.
GUDES GO TO MISS BENNATI
20:37:20 >> I AM LIANE BENNATI IN MR. MANISCALCO'S DISTRICT.
I LIVED HERE FOR 60 YEARS AND WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH
WE IN SOUTH TAMPA PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUALITY OF OUR LIFE.
I RECENTLY COMMUNICATED WITH A BUNCH OF SOUTH TAMPA
RESIDENTS AND I HEAR THE CONCERN REPEATEDLY.
STOP MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEXES INVADING SINGLE
FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOODS.
CITY OF TAMPA HAVE PLACED A HIGH PRIORITY ON THE
CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHY IT IS EMPHASIZED
COMPLETE -- REPEATEDLY IN THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ALL OF SOUTH TAMPA WAS DESIGNED TO BE A SUBURBAN
NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE FOR URBANIZATION.
SOUTH TAMPA IS A SUBURB AS YOU ALL KNOW.
ITS VERY IDENTITY IS A SUBURB FILLED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
HOMES.
ITS IDENTITY IS NOT MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
QUITE A QUITE EDUCATION IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
THE COMP PLAN CLEARLY STATES THAT SOUTH TAMPA IS
UNSUITABLE FOR HIGH DENSITY.
I BEG YOU, BE PROACTIVE NOT REACTIVE.
CONTINUE TO APPROVE THE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS, WE
-- THOSE WHO LIVE HERE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IF FOR
GENERATIONS TO COME.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND CONSIDERING OUR VERY VALID
CONCERNS.
20:38:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
JENNIFER SPARKS.
20:38:44 >> HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER SPARKS.
AND LIVE AT 23 WEST SPANISH MAIN STREET IN BEACH PARK,
AND I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION OF THIS
REZONING.
I DON'T LIVE RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THIS COMPLEX IS
PROPOSED TO BE BUILT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T
EFFECT ME.
I AM IN EVACUATION ZONE A IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
AND IF YOU CRAM MORE PEOPLE IN THE MOST VULNERABLE
PARTS OF THE CITY, YOU MAKE IT HARDER FOR ME TO
EVACUATE AND RISKING THE LIVES OF ME, MY FAMILY AND MY
NEIGHBORS.
THE ISSUE OF COASTAL HIGH HAZARD IS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT
GOVERNOR DESANTIS SIGNED TWO SEPARATE BILLS YESTERDAY
TO BETTER PREPARE FLORIDA FOR FUTURE FLOODING SEA LEVEL
RISE.
FUTURE FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE SHOULD ALSO BE
ISSUES THAT THIS COUNCIL IS CONCERNED WITH.
THESE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS COME INTO OUR CITY, MAKE
MASSIVE PROFITS, THEN LEAVE THIS COUNCIL AND THE
RESIDENTS WITH THE PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH.
IT IS SIMPLY TIME TO SAY NOT IN.
RECENTLY SHAWN COLLEGE ON THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENTED A REPORT -- SORRY --
PRESENTED A REPORT ON BUILDING IN THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA.
MR. COLLEGE SAID THE REAL PROBLEM WE HAVE IS EVACUATION
TIME.
HE SAYS IF YOU INCREASE THE POPULATION, YOU INCREASE
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE GETTING IN THEIR CARS AND LEAVE.
HE SAID YOU CAN NO LONGER GET ALL THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE
COMP PLAN.
POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO BE SNUCK THEIR CARS AND IN
DANGER DURING A STORM SURGE EVENT.
POWERFUL STATEMENT OF THE DANGER WE ARE IN.
THE 2015 FLOOD ACT REQUIRES US TO ADOPT GOALS,
OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES AND STRATEGIES INTO THE
COASTAL MANAGEMENT OF THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
TAMPA HAS COMPLIED WITH THAT LETTER OF THE LAW BUT NOT
THE SPIRIT OF THAT LAW.
EVEN THOUGH EXACT WORDING FROM THAT LAW WAS ADDED TO
THAT COMP PLAN, NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO HOW
REZONINGS ARE EVALUATED.
THESE GOALS OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT ARE NOT PART OF THE
DECISION WHETHER A REZONING IS CONSISTENT OR
INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CLEARLY STATES THAT INTENSE
DENSITY AND URBANIZATION IS DIRECTED AWAY FROM SOUTH
TAMPA AND THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
I HOPE MR. MANISCALCO AND ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL
UNDERSTANDS HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO PUT HIGH DENSITY
MULTIFAMILY IN OR NEAR THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND
EVACUATION ZONE A.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.
20:41:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
NEXT GO TO SYDNEY SPARKS.
20:41:34 >> MY NAME IS SYDNEY SPARKS.
I LIVE IN BEACH PARK WHICH IS MR. MANISCALCO'S
DISTRICT.
I HAVE LIVED IN SOUTH.TAMPA MY WHOLE LIFE AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4465 AND 4467 GANDY BOULEVARD.
THE ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IS OUR PUBLIC
SCHOOLS.
AS A STUDENT, I ATTENDED MABRY ELEMENTARY, COLEMAN
MIDDLE AND GRADUATED FROM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
I KNOW FIRST HAND WHAT STUDENTS AND TEACHERS FACE WITH
OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS.
WHEN SIZES INCREASE TEACHERS AREN'T ABLE TO GIVE ONE ON
ONE INSTRUCTION AND CAUSES STUDENTS TO FULL FURTHER
BEHIND.
AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONFLICT, DETENTION AND MORE
DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.
OVERCROWDING LEADS TO LESS ACCESS TO SCHOOL EQUIPMENT
AND TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR SCIENCE LAB
AND COMPUTER LABS.
IT ALSO LEADS TO LESS SPACE ON CAMPUS WHICH RESULTS IN
SOME STUDENTS NOT HAVING A PLACE TO EAT LUNCH BECAUSE
NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THE CAFETERIA.
OUR SCHOOLS ARE SO OVERCROWDED THAT MANY STUDENTS EAT
IN THE HALLWAYS BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYBODY
TO HAVE SEAT IN THE CAFETERIA AND SOME SCHOOLS HAVE TO
SERVE LUNCH AT 10:30 FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE AN ABILITY TO
EAT.
AS A RESIDENT OF BEACH PARK.
OUR SCHOOLS ARE OVERCROWDED ENOUGH AND I THANK CITY
COUNCIL FOR SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE.
THANK YOU.
20:43:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
MISS MADAM DEPUTY CLERK DOWN TO THE LAST FIVE.
20:43:15 >>CLERK:
YES, ANNA DEDIEGO IS STILL ON LINE AND NEEDS
TO ENABLE HER VIDEO AND SWORN IN AS WELL.
WE ALSO HAVE STEPHANIE DOSAL.
SHE NEED TO ENABLE HER VIDEO AS WELL.
20:43:29 >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR, MAY I.
20:43:31 >> MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
20:43:33 >>LUIS VIERA:
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DID WE
IMPLEMENT A RULE AND ADDRESS -- BECAUSE 9:00 -- HAVING
TO DO A MOTION TO GO PAST 11.
20:43:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR, WE DID.
JUST TO LET EVERYBODY TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
20:43:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY.
20:43:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN CLARIFY AND WORKING WITH THE
CHAIR ABOUT THIS BUT YOU DID DO THAT BY MOTION TO AMEND
YOUR RULES, BUT YOUR RULES HAVEN'T BEEN FORMALLY
ENDED YET, BUT CERTAINLY IT IS A SUBJECT THAT IS
WORTHY OF DISCUSSION IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DO SO.
20:44:10 >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THAT IS FOR ANOTHER
TIME.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE BOUND BY THAT FOR PURPOSES
FOR TONIGHT.
IF NOT, THAT IS FINE.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT IN CASE WE HAVE TO VOTE.
20:44:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK ONCE WE GET PAST ITEM TWO, WE
MAY BE ABLE TO BEAT THE TIME.
20:44:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT,
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
20:44:44 >>CLERK:
SAMANTHA SPARKS AND ANNA DIEGO ON THE LINE --
20:44:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CARROLL MOORE AND CHRISTINA --
20:44:53 >>CLERK:
CAROL IS NOT LOGGED ON.
WHO IS THE OTHER PERSON?
20:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DANA GORDON.
20:45:02 >>CLERK:
THAT TNI IS WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW.
20:45:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CHRISTINA ROTHSTEIN.
20:45:09 >>CLERK:
SHE WAS THE ONE ON FOR ANOTHER ITEM.
SO WE ARE SET.
YOU.
20:45:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GO AHEAD AND SWEAR IN THESE TWO
LADIES, MISS DOSAL AND MISS SPARKS.
20:45:18 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
THANK YOU.
20:45:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS DOSAL.
20:45:32 >> GOOD EVENING ALREADY THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.
WE ARE OFF OF 4605 SOUTH CORTEZ AVENUE.
WE ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS 313-UNIT DEVELOPMENT
THAT IS LESS THAN 200 FEET FROM OUR FRONT DOOR.
WE HAVE 19 CHILDREN ON CORTEZ ALONE.
OUR CHILDREN ARE GROWING UP RIGHT NOW.
THEY ARE ALL UNDER THE AGE OF 10.
AND THIS IS AN EXTREME CONCERN FOR US.
SPEED BUMPS AND CROSSWALKS WOULD SOMEWHAT BE HELPFUL
BUT DOESN'T HELP THE PARKING RATIO.
AND THOUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCES, YOU KNOW -- IT IS A BIG
DEBATE WHETHER IT WILL BE ON OAKELLAR OR WHETHER ON
GANDY, THE CITY ENTRANCE, THERE IS THE POST OFFICE
RIGHT THERE.
WE HAVE HAD -- WE HAVE HAD A NIGHTMARE WITH THE
CROSSTOWN TRAFFIC BEING REDIRECTED AND THE CUT-THRU
TRAFFIC THROUGH CORTEZ ALONE.
AND IT IS JUST BEEN -- WE JUST -- WE ARE JUST NOW
GETTING A RELIEF WITH THE CROSSTOWN BEING OPEN, AND NOW
WE HAVE ANOTHER NIGHTMARE ON OUR HANDS WITH THIS
313-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
ALSO, INCLUDED IN THE PLANS WITH THE SOUTH TAMPA
JUJITSU BUILDING.
MY SON GOES THERE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
SO MANY OTHER KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT --
IT IS SUCH A PLACE FOR THEM TO HAVE -- YOU KNOW, LITTLE
EXTRACURRICULAR PLACE TO GO TO.
ANOTHER SMALL BUSINESS WE LIKE TO SUPPORT IS 81 BAY,
WHICH OUR FAMILY -- IT IS ANOTHER LITTLE OUTLET FOR US
TO GO TO.
IT IS JUST -- AND ANOTHER THING THAT WASN'T CONSIDERED
AND I APPRECIATE THE YOUNG LADY PRIOR TO ME IS THE
SCHOOLS.
WHERE ARE THOSE KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL?
MY SON -- YOU KNOW IT IS HARD NOW GET THEM INTO A GOOD
SCHOOL DISTRICT AND, YOU KNOW, TO BE PART OF A GOOD
COMMUNITY.
AND WHERE ARE ALL THESE KIDS GOING TO GO?
LIKE, THESE NURSES AND THESE DOCTORS, ARE THEY GOING TO
COME -- ARE THEY NOT GOING TO HAVE FAMILIES YOU?
KNOW.
ANOTHER THING, YOU KNOW, ON OUR LIST WAS, YOU KNOW,
JUST -- JUST -- JUST THE TRAFFIC AND THE SAFETY FOR OUR
CHILDREN AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I HATE TO RAMBLE.
I COULD GO ON AND ON BUT THE MAIN CONCERN FOR OUR
FAMILY IS SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN.
LIKE I SAID 19 KIDS ON OUR STREET ALONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
20:48:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
GO TO SAMANTHA SPARKS.
20:48:10 >> MY NAME IS AMANDA SPARKS.
AND I LIVE ON BEACH PARK WHICH IS MR. MANISCALCO'S
DISTRICT.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SOUTH TAMPA AND I FIRMLY
OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4465 AND
4467 GANDY BOULEVARD.
ATTENDED PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, AND I AM
CURRENTLY A GRADUATING SENIOR AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
WE HAVE HEARD MANY DISCUSSING TONIGHT REGARDING THE
ISSUE CAUSED BY THESE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES.
BUT WHAT I HOPE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THE
IMPACT DEVELOPMENT HAS ON OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
OVERCROWDING IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ISSUES
FACING OUR SCHOOLS, STUDENTS AND TEACHERS TODAY.
IT REDUCES STUDENTS' ABILITY TO PAY ATTENTION IN CLASS
AND LEAD TO INCREASES IN BULLYING AND SCHOOL VIOLENCE.
STUDENTS IN OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS LEARN LESS OR ACHIEVE
LESS WITH INSTRUCTIONAL TIME, LIMITED ACCESS TO HONOR
AND AP CLASSES AND LIMITED OR NO ACCESS TO VALUABLE
RESOURCES SUCH AS TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE LABS.
WHEN THERE ARE MORE STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM, THE
INCREASED NOISE LEVEL MAKE IT HARDER FOR TEACHERS TO
TEACH AND STUDENTS TO CONCENTRATE.
THINK OF THE VALUABLE TIMES THIS ARE WASTED AND LESSONS
MISSED WHEN TEACHER FOCUS ON CLASSROOM MANAGEMENT AND
NOISE CONTROL.
TEACHER BURNOUT AND MANY EXCELLENT TEACHERS ENDS UP
LEAVING THE PROFESSION BECAUSE IT IS NOT WORTH THE
STRESS THEY DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.
AS A CURRENT HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR AND RESIDENT OF BEACH
PARK, I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THIS
PROPERTY TO MULTIFAMILY.
ALL THAT MR. MANISCALCO AND THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS
WILL SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS RESIDENTS IN
SOUTH TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
20:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, I SAW YOUR HAND.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
20:50:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I DON'T KNOW THE SPARKS FAMILY AND I
DON'T KNOW HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE AND I AM NOT
COMMENTING ON THE TEXT -- ON THE COMMENTS THAT THE
SPARK FAMILY GAVE, BUT GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MISS SPARKS
THE MOTHER FOR RAISING TWO GREAT DAUGHTERS WHO ARE
WILLING TO STAY UP LATE AND TALK ON CIVIC ISSUES.
WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THE POISE YOU HAVE PRESENTED
TONIGHT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE, YOU AND YOUR STAR.
THANK YOU.
20:50:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT?
20:50:34 >>CLERK:
THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE LEFT IS ANNA DEDIEGO AND
HAS NOT ENABLED HER VIDEO AND I AM ASSUMING SHE DOESN'T
WANT TO SPEAK AND DANA GORDON IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN
BECAUSE HER DEVICE IS NOT COMPATIBLE TO GO TO WEBINAR
SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
20:50:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
GO TO REBUTTAL, MR. MICHELINI.
20:50:59 >> A NICE LONG EVENING WITH YOU FOLKS AND I APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME.
LET ME START BY SAYING FOR THE RECORD THERE HAS BEEN A
LOT OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE RECORD BY
VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS HAVE
THAT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REZONING.
THEY ARE -- SOME HAVE TO DO WITH CIVIL ISSUES.
SOME HAVE TO DO WITH SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AND ALREADY
GOTTEN LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL INDICATING THAT IS
HAPPENING.
WE SUBMITTED A LEGITIMATE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND
COORDINATION WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WHICH THEY
ACCEPTED.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO A
COMMERCIAL CENTER.
YOU CAN BUILD A REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER HERE WITH 20
RESTAURANTS BY RIGHT AND MAINTAIN TWO ACCESSES OFF OF
OAKELLAR WITHOUT -- WITHOUT A REZONING.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND THAT IS REGARDING DECREASING THE DENSITY AND GOING
FROM COMMERCIAL TO A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
WE ARE MEETING THE FLOOD ZONE ELEVATION REQUIREMENT.
WE CAN NOT INCREASE FLOODING.
THAT IS A TECHNICAL STANDARD.
WE CAN NOT INCREASE TRAFFIC.
THAT IS ALSO A TECHNICAL STANDARD.
BUT ANYWAY, WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMENTS AND THE
COUNCIL'S TIME, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU
CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
LET US GO BACK, WORK WITH THE STAFF.
LET US COME BACK WITH A PLAN THAT IS BETTER AND MORE
PALATABLE.
AND WE -- WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DO THAT.
REWORK THE SITE PLAN.
MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPONENTS OF THAT SITE PLAN ARE
CONSISTENT WITH THE STAFF AND I REALIZE THAT WILL
REQUIRE SOME TIME.
SO I AM ASSUMING THAT IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY FROM THE
COUNCIL TO GO BACK AND RESTUDY THIS ISSUE, THAT IS
PROBABLY PUTS US INTO OCTOBER.
SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS
MATTER UNTIL OCTOBER, AND IF NECESSARY, THEN WE WOULD
ALSO RENOTICE THE -- THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
20:53:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
QUESTION BEFORE WE GO THERE.
20:53:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
20:53:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
BEFORE WE -- BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE CONTINUANCE, THE
QUESTION I ASKED EARLIER IN THE EVENING ABOUT CORDONING
OFF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH LITERALLY BLOCKING
OFF THAT -- THAT CURRENT ACCESS AND TAKING ALL THIS
TRAFFIC OUT TO GANDY.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- A, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
LEGALLY DO WITH YOUR -- WITH YOUR EXISTING
CROSS-ACCESS.
B, IS IT SOMETHING YOU LOOKED INTO.
AND C -- WELL, GIVE ME A AND B AND THEN I WILL MENTION
C.
20:53:54 >> YES, SIR.
THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT CROSS-ACCESS ON THE WESTERNMOST DRIVEWAY
DOESN'T EFFECT ANY OF THE OTHER INTERNAL PROPERTIES,
FOR EXAMPLE, IT DOESN'T EFFECT GRACE CHURCH TO THE
NORTH.
AND I AM JUST NOT SURE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS EVENING THAT THAT IS
AN ISSUE.
AS THE OWNER HAS REPRESENTED -- AS REPRESENTATIVE FOR
THE OWNER, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE OF ELIMINATING THE
DRIVEWAY ON THE WEST SIDE.
20:54:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I AM HAVING TROUBLE WEST SIDE,
NORTH SIDE.
WHAT I AM SAYING ELIMINATE ALL OF THE ACCESS TO THE
LOCAL COMMUNITY AND JUST TAKE ALL OF YOUR TRAFFIC OUT
TO GANDY.
THAT IS WHAT I AM GETTING AT, STEVE.
20:54:40 >> YES, SIR.
WE ALREADY COMMITTED TO REMOVING THE EAST DRIVE, THE
WEST DRIVE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A
CROSS-ACCESS THAT CONTROLS THAT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT.
20:54:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I AM SURE IT IS NOT A NOVEL
THOUGHT, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE BEEN, ONCE
AGAIN, READING THESE 70 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND MANY,
MANY OF THEM JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT WHO
LIVE BACK THERE ON CORTEZ, ETC.
, THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS THAT THEY DON'T WANT
THIS TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR
MONTHS.
SO THIS IS NOT JOHN DINGFELDER'S NOVEL IDEA.
20:55:23 >> I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN.
IF YOU WOULD PREFER, WE COULD -- WE COULD ASK FOR A
CONTINUANCE FOR COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST TO EXPLORE THAT
ONE PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT IT DOES INVOLVE A SITE PLAN
CHANGE THAT REQUIRES A CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT IT.
IT IS ONLY ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE A
CONTINUANCE FOR AT LEAST THREE WEEKS BECAUSE THEY NEED
TWO WEEKS IN TERMS TO -- RHINE VINE ON -- RYAN MANASSE
IS ON LINE AND HE CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH TIME FOR THAT
CHANGE.
20:56:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THAT IS NOT MY ONLY ISSUE BUT A BIG
ISSUE FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IMMEDIATELY TO THE PROJECT.
20:56:09 >> I UNDERSTAND AND WHY I WAS SUGGESTING AND REQUESTING
A CONTINUANCE TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE AND THEN -- IF YOU
HAVE OTHER ISSUE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SO
WE CAN ADDRESS THEM.
20:56:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANYONE ELSE?
MISS WELLS, ARE YOU STILL THERE.
20:56:29 >>CATE WELLS:
YES, I AM, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION FOR THE RECORD, MR.
MICHELINI IN HIS PRESENTATION MADE REFERENCE TO HOW HIS
CLIENT IS WORKING WITH MOBILITY.
AND LOOKING AT PROVIDING OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
WOULD HELP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I SPOKE WITH MR. MICHELINI THIS WEEK A COUPLE OF TIMES
ON THIS ISSUE AND I AM SURPRISED THAT HE BROUGHT THAT
UP IN HIS PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE MADE IT CLEAR TO HIM
THAT WHATEVER NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDER WAY WITH MOBILITY,
THAT IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND AGREEMENT
THAT HIS CLIENT WOULD HAVE WITH MOBILITY AND WOULD NOT
BE PART OF THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
IT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
SO I WANTED COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR ON THAT POINT GIVEN
THAT WAS INCLUDED IN HIS PRESENTATION, BUT IT IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER IF YOU ARE
GOING TO TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING.
20:57:32 >> I APOLOGIZE TO ATTORNEY WELLS.
I WASN'T INDICATING THAT IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE SITE
PLAN.
IT WAS A STATEMENT THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM.
WE CAN NOT COMMIT TO OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I THOUGHT I ALSO SAID THAT.
BUT THE DRIVEWAY THAT MR. DINGFELDER WAS REFERRING TO
IS ON OUR SITE.
GUDES MISS WELLS, I WANT TO GET BACK EARLIER THE
ATTORNEY THAT CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE PENDING
LAWSUIT TO THIS PROPERTY AND NOT KNOWING THE PROPERTY
OWNERS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- WHAT FLOOR YOU NEED TO GET
ON WITH THAT QUESTION, BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS, DOES YOUR
CLIENT -- ARE THEY IN PENDING LITIGATION OF THE
PROJECT.
DO THEY OWN THE PROPERTY BEFORE COUNCIL MAKE ANY
DECISION ON THIS.
20:58:22 >> THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED OUTRIGHT BY THE PETITIONER.
AND THEY HAVE THE TITLE AND THE DEED TO -- THAT
REFLECTS ALL OF THAT, AS WELL AS THE OWNERSHIP
DOCUMENTS.
BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE GETTING INTO A CIVIL ISSUE.
AND I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THAT BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD THE
CIVIL ISSUE REGARDING THE BREWERY.
20:58:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE ARE IN LITIGATION, BASICALLY.
20:58:43 >> YES, SIR.
THERE IS LITIGATION INVOLVING THE BREWERY.
20:58:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS WELLS, WHAT IS THIS BOARD'S ROLE
-- WE HAVE A PETITIONER COMING FORWARD TO GET AN
APPROVAL ON A ZONING, AND THEY HAVE -- THEY ARE IN
CURRENT LITIGATION.
20:59:01 >>CATE WELLS:
WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY THE
LITIGATION.
THERE HAS BEEN ONE COMMENT THAT THERE IS PENNING
LITIGATION WITH RESPECT TO THE OWNERSHIP.
BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING NOR WOULD OUR OFFICE
ROUTINELY CHECK PUBLIC RECORDS AND CONFIRM OWNERSHIP.
THE APPLICATION INCLUDES TWO AGENT AUTHORIZATIONS FROM
TWO SEPARATE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND WE HAVE TO RELY ON THAT DOCUMENTATION AS EVIDENCE
THAT THE TWO ENTITIES THAT SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION
ARE, IN FACT, THE OWNERS, AND ARE AUTHORIZING JOHN LUM
AND OTHERS TO PROCEED ON THEIR BEHALF.
WE HAVE TO RELY ON THAT.
WE DON'T INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW THAT.
IF, HOWEVER, THE ATTORNEY FOR GRACE CHURCH BELIEVES
THAT THERE IS A GENUINE DISPUTE AS TO OWNERSHIP, THEN
THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT CAN BE HAD SEPARATE FROM
OUTSIDE OF THIS HEARING.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN RAISED TO DATE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ATTORNEY HAS REACHED OUT TO
ANYBODY WITH THE CITY TO RAISE THAT AS A QUESTION AS TO
WHETHER THIS APPLICATION CAN APPROPRIATELY MOVE
FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, ASKING MR. MICHELINI TO CONFIRM THE OWNERSHIP
ON THE RECORD, THERE'S NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE WITH THAT.
WITH REGARD TO LITIGATION BETWEEN THE OWNERS OF THE
PROPERTY AND TENANTS THAT IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM YOUR
CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, IT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION.
A DISPUTE WITH REGARDS TO THE OWNERSHIP OUTSIDE ANYTHING
WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE TONIGHT.
21:00:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I JUST HAVE A CONCERN OF THE POSSIBLE
TAKING AND YOU DON'T HAVE CLEAR FACTS.
EVERYTHING IS NOT THERE, APPEARS TO BE NOT THERE.
LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN'T TONIGHT APPROVE THAT, OR GET
THOSE FACTS.
SO I'M KIND OF LEERY AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE ALL THE
INFORMATION WITH THE CHURCH ATTORNEY COMING IN HERE, I
JUST DON'T KNOW.
21:01:08 >>CATE WELLS:
IF THIS COUNCIL WERE TO TAKE ACTION THIS
EVENING, IT WOULD NOT CONSTITUTE A TAKING, IN MY OPINION,
BECAUSE AGAIN YOU ARE RELYING ON WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
RELY ON THE APPLICATION AS FILED.
THEY HAVE SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION, IDENTIFYING WHO THE
PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, AND WE HAVE AGENT AUTHORIZATION TO
RELY ON.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S A QUESTION, THE
APPROPRIATENESS OF THAT APPLICATION, THAT WOULD BE FOR
THE CHALLENGING PARTY TO ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY.
BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IF COUNCIL WERE TO TAKE ACTION
THIS EVENING THAT IT WOULD CONSTITUTE A TAKING OF THAT
BASED UPON THE ALLEGATIONS.
AT THIS POINT THEY ARE JUST ALLEGATIONS THAT SOME ENTITY,
UNIFIED AS THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, AND THERE'S
PENDING LITIGATION.
AT THIS POINT, AS LONG AS THE SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN
SUBMITTED FOR THE PROPERTY, THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE
APPLICATION, AND IN FACT THE TWO OWNERS OWN THAT
PROPERTY, THERE IS NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE ABOUT COUNCIL
MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION.
21:02:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IS PLANNING COMMISSION STILL ON?
IF NOT -- THERE SHE IS, MS. MALONE.
I KEEP HEARING IN THIS APPLICATION THERE IS NO BUS LINE
ON BUSY GANDY BOULEVARD?
IS THAT CORRECT?
21:02:40 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
OUR STAFF REPORT SAYS -- I AM NOT
HART.
I AM NOT A HART REPRESENTATIVE, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK
THE HART MAP.
BUT THAT IS MY PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDGE AT THIS MOMENT,
YES.
21:02:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
UNBELIEVABLE.
THIS IS GANDY BOULEVARD.
NO BUS ROUTE?
THANK YOU, MS. MALONE.
21:03:07 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
YOU'RE WELCOME.
21:03:09 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO RESOLVE.
AND AGAIN I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS
HEARING SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THEM, BRING THE NECESSARY
PROOF OF OWNERSHIP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, RESOLVE
THE ISSUES REGARDING ACCESS.
OUR PARKING NUMBERS, WHEN WE SWITCHED THEM, AND
RECONFIGURED THE PARKING LOT, THEY DON'T MATCH WHAT'S ON
THE SITE PLAN THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS, AND I THINK WE
RESPECTFULLY WOULD REQUEST THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, COME BACK TO YOU, GIVE US ENOUGH
TIME.
WE HAVE HAD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE MORE.
AND TRY TO REACH SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE
HERE.
21:03:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SAW MR. MANASSE.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
21:04:04 >>RYAN MANASSE:
I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR
SCHEDULES ARE PRETTY PACKED SO I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR
THAT WITH A CONTINUANCE THAT -- A COUPLE OF CONTINUANCES
THAT WE ALREADY DEALT WITH TODAY, REZONING NIGHTS ARE OUT
UNTIL NOVEMBER.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE EARLIEST DAY I CAN STAY WITHIN THE
LIMIT AND PLACE ANOTHER HEARING, SO JUST FOR YOUR
REFERENCE, SIR.
21:04:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:04:30 >> JUST TO THE CONTINUANCE, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD
PUNISH THIS APPLICANT BECAUSE WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY
ALLOWED CONTINUANCES, BUT I WISH THAT WE COULD HONOR THE
RULE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT CONTINUANCES AFTER THE
PRESENTATION IS ALREADY STARTED.
BUT STAFF HAS ASKED US MANY TIMES TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF
TIME THAT WE ARE SPENDING ON ALL THESE THINGS, LIMITED
TIME AT MEETINGS.
IT SEEMS TO BE THE THING THAT'S TAKING THE MOST TIME IS
CONTINUANCES.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC, AND IF WE ALLOW THIS FOR
TONIGHT, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD REQUIRE NOTIFICATION, WHICH
MR. MICHELINI OFFERS ANYWAY.
BUT IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE WATCH, THEY
SCHEDULE, THEY COME OUT, THEY TAKE AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY
TIME, AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO CONTINUE, BUT THAT'S A
DISCUSSION INFORM ANOTHER DAY.
21:05:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY, A WORKSHOP DAY AND TAKE
THAT ISSUE UP?
MR. SHELBY?
21:05:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WOULD BE FINE, SIR.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM GOING TO BE BRINGING -- IF IT'S
COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WE CAN BRING IT UP NEXT WEEK AT THE
REGULAR MEETING AND RENEW THAT.
WE CAN EVEN ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF THINGS THAT WILL BE
ADDRESSED IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE DURING THE
REVISION OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
21:05:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES, SIR?
21:06:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH THE CONSENSUS.
I FEEL THAT MR. CARLSON AND YOURSELF AND OTHERS,
CONTINUATION IS ONE THING, BUT THINK IF WE DO CONTINUES
THIS, WE OUGHT TO PUT A TIME LIMIT.
WE HAVE ALREADY HAD DOCUMENTATION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
AND THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED THE MOST, AND WE SHOULD KEEP
IT TO TWO OR THREE ITEMS, OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT WE
SHOULD GIVE MORE THAN 15 OR 20 MINUTES TO EACH SIDE.
ONE SIDE GETS A COUPLE OF SPOKESPERSONS, AND THEY HAVE
VERY WELL-SPOKEN INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SPOKEN TONIGHT AND
OF COURSE THE PETITIONER HAS THE SAME 15 MINUTES, AND 30
MINUTES, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD DO IT.
I MEAN, THERE'S ISSUES HERE, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE RESOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYONE ELSE.
I KNOW THE CITY -- THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE HAD SO
MUCH WORK IN THIS DEPARTMENT THAT THEY CAN'T SWIM FORWARD
FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE THE TIDE IS COMING AGAINST THEM.
21:06:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:07:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE MORE COMMENT AS
AN ASIDE TO THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO THE CHAT FUNCTION.
A REMINDER TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THE CHAT
FUNCTION IS NOT TO BE USED TO COMMUNICATE SUBSTANTIVE
MATTERS DURING THE HEARING.
IF YOU HAVE TECHNICAL ISSUES, THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO USE THE CHAT FUNCTION VERY WELL
RISK BEING BUMPED FROM THE PLATFORM AND BEING UNABLE TO
PARTICIPATE THROUGH THAT MEDIUM, IF THEY USE THAT CHAT
FUNCTION FOR COMMUNICATING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS OR AMONGST
THEMSELVES, WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR
ANYTHING OTHER THAN TECHNICAL PURPOSES OR PROBLEMS.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC VERY CLEAR THAT THEY
PUT THEMSELVES AT RISK OF BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IF
THAT CHAT FUNCTION IS MISUSED.
21:07:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
MR. VIERA.
21:07:50 >>LUIS VIERA:
I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON CONTINUING
THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF TIME, AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR
THE POINT ANYMORE.
IF YOU ALL WOULD ENTERTAIN THE CONTINUANCE MOTION?
I SO MOVE.
21:08:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY VIERA.
MR. SHELBY.
21:08:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION AS TO THE
SPECIFIC DATE, THE SPECIFIC TIME, AND WHETHER THERE'S
GOING TO BE A RENOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:08:15 >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD MOVE WITH RENOTICE, OBVIOUSLY, IF
I MAY, AND THAT THE FIRST AVAILABLE IN NOVEMBER, THE
APPLICANT IS AMENABLE WITH THAT.
21:08:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NOVEMBER, CORRECT, SIR?
21:08:30 >>RYAN MANASSE:
YES, SIR, CHAIR.
NOVEMBER 18th IS THE REZONING NIGHT PUBLIC HEARING,
AND 6:00 P.M.
AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE TAKING CASES IN THERE,
SO THIS WOULD HOLD UP ANOTHER SPOT FOR POSSIBLE CASES
THAT HAVEN'T MET THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATION YET.
BUT THAT IS THE NEXT AVAILABLE REZONING NIGHT.
21:08:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LET ME CAUTION YOU ABOUT SOMETHING.
THE NIGHT THAT WE HAD TONIGHT, IT'S ALMOST GOING ON AFTER
9:00 NOW.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET BACK ON THAT.
I'M SURE THIS HEARING HERE TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
PEOPLE SHOW UP.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET
THEM IN, BUT AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE HOT TOPICS,
AND WE ARE HERE ALL NIGHT ON THE 58 H 18th.
21:09:22 >>RYAN MANASSE:
CHAIR, I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE
THAT UNLESS CATE, CAN WE LIMIT -- WE DON'T WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE CASES ALREADY.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THE CHAIR WANTS TO HANDLE THAT.
21:09:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WE ALREADY NOTICE THAT.
WE HAVE GOT THIS AMOUNT OF TIME.
21:09:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:09:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
21:09:47 >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:09:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU RAISE A VERY INTERESTING POINT AND
A VALID DISCUSSION AND RELATES BACK TO COUNCILMAN
CARLSON'S INITIAL CONCERNS, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS AS A
RESULT OF THIS CONTINUANCE IS IF THEY COME BACK WITH A
TOTALLY REVISED SITE PLAN, AND IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT
IN AND OF ITSELF, THEN IT RAISES THE DIFFICULTY OF
LIMITING PEOPLE'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT ESPECIALLY IF
THEY HAVE AN INTERESTS IN IT, A LEGAL INTEREST IN IT, TO
LIMIT THAT.
SO THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL RISK THAT YOU TAKE WHEN YOU
GRANT THESE CONTINUANCES.
SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY CONSIDER DOWN THE
ROAD.
21:10:26 >> MRS. WELLS.
21:10:30 >>CATE WELLS:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THE ONE CHALLENGE WITH SCHEDULING IS WHEN THE
APPLICATIONS ARE BEING RECEIVED, THEY ARE SO FAR IN
ADVANCE OF THE TENTATIVE HEARING DATE, AND AT THAT POINT
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR STAFF TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE
APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL.
SO I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION FOR CITY
COUNCIL, AND I AGREE THAT IT REQUIRES FURTHER ATTENTION,
BUT TO ASK STAFF TO KEEP THE AGENDA LIGHT ON A CERTAIN
EVENING, UNTIL WE GET CLOSE TO THAT EVENING, AND THE
HEARINGS ARE ALREADY SET, THE APPLICATIONS ARE ALREADY
SET, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO TELL WHAT KIND OF PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION YOU ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE.
SO IT'S A WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE HAVING, AND
I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY ANSWER THIS EVENING HOW TO
MANAGE THE AGENDA.
BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH YOUR REQUEST, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:11:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I CAN UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU HAVE ON THE
18th?
21:11:42 >>RYAN MANASSE:
CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE, BUT NOVEMBER
DOESN'T HAVE AN APPLICATION DEADLINE UNTIL JULY 26th.
21:11:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH YOU, WHAT MR. MANASSE
WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS.
I WOULD IMAGINE FOR CONTINUATION, SOMEONE WHO IS IN THE
MODE OF APPLYING MAY BE THE ONE TO SELECT THAT.
SO I AM NOT ANSWERING FOR THEM.
I AM JUST SAYING REALITY IS, IF WE GO TO A CERTAIN LIMIT
AND SOMEONE PASSES THAT LIMIT, THEN WHOEVER IS THE ONE
THAT GOT LEFT OUT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN.
SO WE HAVE CONTINUATIONS.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.
I AM JUST SAYING IN GENERAL.
21:12:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANASSE.
21:12:24 >>RYAN MANASSE:
JUST TO BE CLEAR, TOO, IF THERE IS A
POSSIBLE MOTION TO CONTINUE, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR,
BECAUSE I THINK MR. SHELBY STATED IT AS WELL, THE
APPLICANT EXPECTED TO REDESIGN THE SITE AND RESUBMIT
BECAUSE TYPICALLY BACK TO THE ARC REVIEW.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT I PRESENTED
BEFORE, WE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT, WAS I HEARD DIFFERENT
THINGS FROM MR. MICHELINI'S REPORT, BY REMOVING AN
ACCESS, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHICH ONE.
I HEARD ABOUT NORTHBOUND BEING REMOVED.
I HEARD ABOUT 4-INCH TREES INSTEAD OF THE CODE REQUIRED
ONES.
I HEARD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LOCK-IN TO TYPES OF UNITS.
SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR MY SIDE, AS FAR AS IF THE
APPLICANT IS GOING TO RESUBMIT A SITE PLAN, I JUST NEED
CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT THEY ARE RESUBMITTING TO ADDRESS
THE CONCERNS THAT WERE PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT, OR IF THEY
ARE JUST RESUBMITTING A REVISED PLAN, AND THEY WOULD HAVE
TO RESUBMIT BY A CERTAIN DEADLINE IN ORDER TO STAY ON
TRACK WITH THAT NOVEMBER HEARING BECAUSE THAT STAFF HAS
TO HAVE ADEQUATE TIME IF IT TAKES TWO OR MORE REVIEWERS
TO MAKE SURE ALL THE REVIEWS ARE COMPLETED APPROPRIATELY
AND PRESENT A REVISED STAFF REPORT TO COUNCIL.
21:13:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK AT THIS POINT THE APPLICANT IS
ASKING -- IT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT, IT'S NOT ON US.
WOULD I BE CORRECT WITH THAT?
21:13:48 >> YES, SIR.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S CONTINUED FOR A SPECIFIC REASON.
SO IF MR. MICHELINI ADDRESSES THOSE FIVE ITEMS THAT I
OUTLINED AND RESUBMITS, THEN STAFF IS SAYING, OKAY, IT'S
ONLY GOING TO TAKE TWO OR LESS REVIEWERS, THEN WE DON'T
HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ARC REVIEW WHERE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL
PERSONNEL REVIEW.
IF THEY ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT AN EGRESS IT MAY BE OKAY,
BUT JUST PARTIAL STAFF REVIEWING THAT.
BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT
WAS TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, IF MR. MICHELINI CAN PRESENT
WHAT HE'S REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR, TO ADDRESS
SPECIFICALLY TO COUNCIL AS WELL AS STAFF, SO WE HAVE AN
ACCURATE RECORD TO BE RESPONSIBLE ONCE HE DOES RESUBMIT
THIS PLAN, NO TIMELY MANNER, SO STAFF CAN RE-REVIEW THIS.
21:14:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THERE IS A MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY
MANISCALCO.
ANYTHING YOU CAN DISCUSS, MR. MICHELINI, SO THE STAFF CAN
BE CLEAR?
21:14:56 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
LET ME MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANY OF
THEM.
ONE INVOLVED THE ACCESS ON OAKELLAR TO BE ADDRESSED.
THE OTHER WAS THE REMOVAL OF BALCONIES ON THE OAKELLAR
SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE OTHER WAS TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE TREES FROM TWO
INCHES TO FOUR INCHES.
TO ALSO ADDRESS THE GREEN SPACE WAIVER THAT WAS BEING
REQUESTED.
THE PARKING WAIVER THAT WAS BEING REQUESTED AND THE
RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOT.
DID I CATCH THEM ALL?
RYAN, DID I MISS ANY?
21:15:32 >>RYAN MANASSE:
THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT LOCK IN
THE --
21:15:40 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
OH, YES, THE MATRIX ON THE
DISTRIBUTION OF THE TYPE OF UNITS.
AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
I THINK THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE NUMBERS THAT
YOU HAD VERSUS --
[NO ENCODER]
ONE FINAL COMMENT IS THERE MAY BE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE
DISCOVER IN THE PROCESS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED,
AND WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT OBJECTING TO RUNNING IT THROUGH
ANOTHER DRC, YOU KNOW, TO DEFINE AND REVIEW THOSE ISSUES.
BUT AS RYAN SAID, YOUR DEADLINE IS JULY, SO WE HAVE A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO ADDRESS THAT.
21:16:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR.
VIERA.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:16:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
VERY BRIEFLY, COUNCIL, I WANT TO SHARE
WITH YOU, AND SPECIFICALLY YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT I DID
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH ABBYE FEELEY TODAY
ABOUT THIS VERY SUBJECT OF YOUR NIGHT MEETINGS, AND SHE
HAS INFORMED ME THAT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY HAVE PICKED
UP TREMENDOUSLY AND SHE HAS INFORMED ME THAT YOUR
SCHEDULES PRETTY MUCH ARE NOW BOOKED UP THROUGH NOVEMBER.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, JUST TO INFORM COUNCIL, AND I
WILL WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND MS. WELLS AND MRS. FEELEY,
TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THE CHAIR TO DISCUSS THESE
ISSUES, IN ADVANCE OF BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE
THIS IS A CERTAIN CONCERN THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED BY BOTH
MS. WELLS AND MR. MANASSE TONIGHT AS WELL AS COUNCIL.
YOU RECOGNIZE THE ISSUE THAT YOU ARE FACING.
21:17:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
21:17:30 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE AGREEING
TO A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 18thALITY 6:00 P.M.
21:17:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
21:17:40 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
YES, SIR.
I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WE WERE AGREEING TO THAT.
21:17:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND WITH RENOTICE AGAIN?
21:17:47 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
WITH RENOTICE AND REPOSTING THE
PROPERTY.
21:17:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
21:17:54 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
21:17:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
21:17:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
21:18:00 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
21:18:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
21:18:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
NO.
21:18:09 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT AND
DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
21:18:13 >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
21:18:14 >> GENTLEMEN, ARE WE GOOD OR DO WE NEED FIVE MINUTES?
21:18:22 >> UP TO THE CLERK.
21:18:29 >> WE'LL TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
TAKE A BREAK.
(CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
21:27:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ROLL CALL.
ROLL CALL.
21:27:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
21:27:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HERE.
21:27:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
21:27:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
21:27:28 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
21:27:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ITEM NUMBER 5.
MR. MANASSE?
21:28:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
RYAN, YOU ARE UP.
ITEM NUMBER 55.
OR JENNIFER?
NUMBER 5?
NOBODY CAN HEAR US.
21:28:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. MANASSE?
21:28:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I.T.?
CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT?
MS. WELLS, ARE YOU THERE?
MS. MALONE?
21:28:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
IT FEELS LIKE THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
21:29:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CARLSON, CAN YOU HEAR US?
21:29:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
NO?
21:29:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IT'S AN I.T. PROBLEM.
21:29:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
CATE, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR US, CATE? OKAY, NOBODY CAN HEAR US.
21:29:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN I.T. PROBLEM.
MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU RUN INTO THE HALL?
21:29:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HAVE RYAN LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HELP US.
21:29:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T THINK MR. CARLSON CAN HELP US
EITHER.
I SEE BOTH LADIES RUNNING IN.
21:30:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
LET'S SEE IF ERIC IS --
21:30:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE ARE TRYING TO GET I.T. TO SEE WHAT'S
GOING ON.
ERIC, ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT'S MEETING?
21:30:36 >> YES.
I AM TALKING WITH CTTV RIGHT NOW.
SO WE CAN HEAR WEBINAR BUT WE CAN'T HEAR CHAMBERS.
21:30:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE ANOTHER
FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
21:30:52 >> YES, PROBABLY GIVE ANOTHER TWO MORE MINUTES AND SEE IF
WE CAN GET IT BACK UP.
21:30:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.
21:31:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
BACK IN RECESS.
(CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
21:32:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HERE.
21:40:19 >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
21:40:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
21:40:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
21:40:24 >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
21:40:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
21:40:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD JUST
RECOGNIZE WHEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON ALSO JUST JOINED FOR
PURPOSES OF --
21:40:39 >>THE CLERK:
CARLSON?
21:40:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
21:40:42 >>THE CLERK:
PRESENT.
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
21:40:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANASSE, ITEM NUMBER 5.
21:40:48 >>RYAN MANASSE:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 5 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 21-21.
IT'S FOR A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
AT 704 EAST LAKE AVENUE AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS
REZONING FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE RETURN TO ME AFTERWARDS.
21:41:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THE VOLUME IS A LITTLE
LOW, WHOEVER IS CONTROLLING THAT.
21:41:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I.T., WILL PICK UP MR. MANASSE.
MS. MALONE, YOU ARE UP.
21:41:19 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
PLANNING COMMISSION.
REZ 21-21, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT, EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND YBOR HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD, ON EAST LAKE AVENUE, JUST EAST OF THE
INTERSTATE 275, AND THEN WE HAVE NEBRASKA AVENUE TO THE
WEST.
THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 10, THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN
THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
WHICH IS THE COLOR ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE IS THE OTHER
COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE PRESENT ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THE RED COLOR IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, AND THAT ALSO
ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL.
THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS
APPROXIMATELY 1,000 FEET EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON
NEBRASKA AVENUE NEXT TO TRANSIT.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION
ZONE.
AND THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS FLORAL
PARK, NEBRASKA AVENUE PARK, WHICH IS ABOUT A QUARTER
MILE.
SO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DOES PROPOSE THE REDEVELOPMENT
OF THE SITE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL
DWELLING UNIT AND OVERALL DENSITY OF 6 .74 DWELLING UNITS
PER ACRE.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE IN-FILL HOUSING,
AND WE DO FIND IT IS IN THE SAME LOT CONFIGURATION AND
COMPATIBLE WITH THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN AND VISION OF RESIDENTIAL 10.
THAT DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
21:43:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
MR. MANASSE?
21:43:11 >>RYAN MANASSE:
IF I COULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
IF YOU WILL LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THE WELCOME.
21:43:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE SEE IT.
21:43:23 >>RYAN MANASSE:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, AGAIN ITEM 5
IS REZ 21-21.
THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU DOES PROPOSE TWO WAIVERS, THAT
COME FROM SECTION 27-240 AND ONE OF THEM IS TO INCREASE
THE BLOCK FACE AVERAGE FROM 15.26 AS MIRED FROM EDGE OF
PAVEMENT WHICH THERE'S A AS STATED IN THIS PROPOSED
WAIVER AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS TO REDUCE SIDE YARD EAST
AND WEST SETBACK FROM FIVE FEET TO FOUR FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY AGAIN
704 -- 704 EAST LAKE AVENUE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
CREATION OF A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOT A TOTAL LOT AREA
OF 6,075 FEET.
THE LOT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
IT IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY AND MUST COMPLY
WITH EAST TAMPA OVERLAY STANDARD, SECTION 240 AT THE TIME
OF FINAL PERMITTING UNLESS WAIVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
CODE SECTION 27-240 FOR THE RECORD STATES IN PART ANY
RESIDENTIAL LOT OF RECORD EXISTING AS OF JANUARY 1st,
2000, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
DISTRICT, SHALL BE CONFORMING AND MAY BE DEVELOPMENT WITH
ANY OF THE UNDERLYING PERMITTED USES FOR THAT ZONING
DISTRICT.
THE SUBJECT LOT DOES NOT MEET THAT CRITERIA, BUT TO
CORRECT SOME ENCROACH.
ISSUES FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE EAST, THIS PD IS
REQUIRED.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MAY NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM
DENSITY ALLOWED BY THE ADOPTED CITY OF TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS APPLICATION IS REQUESTING ONE
DWELLING UNIT.
THE APPLICATION REQUEST FOR THE LOT AS CONFIGURED TO BE
CONSTRUCTED WITH ONE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
STRUCTURE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ONE LOT EAST OF EAST LAKE AVENUE AND
NORTH TALIAFERRO INTERSECTIONS.
THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE NORTH 15 FEET, SOUTH 17 FEET,
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE SITE PLAN SHOWS LESS THAN 18 FEET,
AND THE REASON I PUT THAT THERE IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A
DIMENSION THAT WAS LESS THAN 18 FEET SO WE ARE REQUESTING
17 FEET.
THE EAST 4.5 FEET AND THE WEST 4.5 FEET.
THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS
35 FEET.
AND THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY ZONING DISTRICT RS-50
TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE AERIAL ON SCREEN SHOWS, IF THERE ARE ANY LOCAL OR
NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE AREA WHICH THERE ARE
NOT, AND JENNIFER DID POINT OUT THAT THE INTERSTATE 275
IS TO YOUR WEST, AND ONE BLOCK TO THE EAST, AND THERE'S
LAKE AVENUE, AND THEN NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL OUTLINED IN THE RED DASHED LINE.
THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE CUSTOMARY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
DWELLING ON THE LOT.
STAFF DOES SEE THE WAIVERS REQUESTED KIND OF REFLECT DUE
TO THE TREE BEING RETAINED HERE TO THE NORTH, AS WELL AS
THE ENCROACH.
ISSUE FROM THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS TO THE EAST.
THAT PROPERTY BEING CONSTRUCTED BACK IN THE 1922 TIME
FRAME.
SOME SUBJECT SITES PHOTOS, YOU CAN SEE THE POSTING OF THE
SIGN.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE TREES REFERENCED TO AS WELL.
THIS IS LOOKING TO THE EAST.
THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT.
CUSTOMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL
STRUCTURES, TO THE WEST I-275 OVERPASS, UNDERPASS AS
WELL, SOUTH SINGLE-FAMILY.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
THE APPLICATION AND WE FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY
OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
URBAN DESIGN RELATED TO THE BACK WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED
FROM THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
APPLICATION FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST
BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING AS OUTLINED IN THE REVISION SHEET.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IT MAY HAVE.
21:47:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
21:47:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
A QUICK QUESTION.
MR. MANASSE, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE TREE,
AND I WILL BE LISTENING CLOSELY TO THE APPLICANT, BUT IT
WOULD SEEM STRANGE TO ME THAT -- AND THE ENCROACHMENT
FROM AN ADJACENT PARCEL CAN HAVE ANY IMPACT ON WHAT YOU
ARE DOING ON YOUR OWN PARCEL.
SO BUT FOR THE TREE, WOULD THAT STILL BE TRUE?
21:47:43 >>RYAN MANASSE:
WELL, I WAS REFERRING TO THE SIDE
SETBACK REDUCTION, BECAUSE ON THE SITE PLAN THE ADJACENT
PARCEL IS GOING UP TO THAT ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOT LINE
WHICH IS MAKING THEM DECREASE THIS SIDE YARD SETBACK A
LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
21:47:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING?
I MEAN, IF THEY WERE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN THEIR OWN
SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEN YES,
THEY WOULD NEED A PD OR VARIANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IN TERMS OF MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS A 100 YEAR OLD
HOUSE THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO MY PROPERTY LINE, HOW COULD
THAT PUSH ME INTO A PD?
21:48:20 >>RYAN MANASSE:
THEY ARE CREATING A LOT THAT'S -- AS I
STATED IN THE SUMMARY, IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR
THE LEGAL LOT OF RECORD UNDER EAST TAMPA CODE SO THEY ARE
CREATING THIS LOT.
SO THAT'S WHY -- THE OTHER LOTS TO THE EAST ARE ALL 48.5
AND THIS ONE IS REQUESTING 45 FEET.
21:48:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
OKAY.
SO IT'S THE DIMENSION OF THE LOT ITSELF, NOT THE
ENCROACHMENT FROM THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
21:48:46 >>RYAN MANASSE:
YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT FOR THE RECORD TO BRING UP THE
ENCROACHMENT BECAUSE WE DO FEEL THAT IT DOES PLAY A PART
WITH REVIEWING THIS AS WELL HOW WE ARE PERCEIVED, THE LOT
BEING ADJUSTED, THE SIZE FOR THE STRUCTURE.
21:49:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT'S THE
STAFF RECOMMENDATION?
21:49:09 >>RYAN MANASSE:
INCONSISTENT BASED OFF THE URBAN DESIGN
COMMENTS, BECAUSE OF THE TWO WAIVERS, SECTION 27-240 DOES
NOT MEET THE CODE.
21:49:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
THANK YOU.
21:49:20 >>RYAN MANASSE:
YES, SIR.
21:49:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE ELSE?
WE'LL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
KEVIN ROBLES, 2107 CHESTNUT FOREST DRIVE, AND I HAVE BEEN
SWORN IN.
RYAN GAVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD OUTLINE OF THIS.
LET ME ANSWER A FEW OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTIONS
THAT HE HAD.
THIS PD IS SOLELY TO ALLEVIATE THE ENCROACHMENT BY THE
STRUCTURE TO THE EAST.
THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS A RENTAL DWELLING WITH AN
ABSENTEE OWNER IN NEW YORK CITY, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN
CONTACT WITH HIM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, AND IF YOU WERE TO
REQUIRE THAT TO BE MOVED OVER, THERE'S ONLY TWO PATHWAYS
TO COMPLETE THAT.
THAT IS THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT, OR BY TAKING UP A CIVIL
MATTER WITH THE OWNER.
IT WAS MUCH EASIER TO ADJUST THE LOT LINE AND DO A PD IN
ORDER TO CREATE -- IN ORDER TO TAKE THE ENCROACHMENT OUT
OF THE LOT.
THIS LOT IS THE FINAL URBAN 360 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT.
THIS IS THE 95th UNIT.
AND THIS PROPERTY HAS A BUYER ON IT, ELIGIBLE BENEFICIARY
FOR THIS LOT.
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE TREE.
I THINK THAT WAS SOME TECHNICALITY ON THE FRONT SETBACK
IN ORDER FOR THE TREE.
IT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM 18 FEET, WHICH THE TRANSPORTATION
AND TRAFFIC CODE WOULD HAVE CAUSED US TO MOVE IT BACK TO
18 FEET.
I THINK RATHER THAN ADJUSTING IT PRIOR TO THIS HEARING
WAS, AND I BELIEVE MR. MANASSE WAS ALLUDING, WE PICK THAT
UP BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND MAKE THAT
ADJUSTMENT.
I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS?
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR, DO WE?
21:51:55 >> EVERYBODY LEFT AFTER THE LAST --
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
21:52:05 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
21:52:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
A QUICK QUESTION.
MR. ROBLES, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT PAGE 2 AND
I AM SURE YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
URBAN DESIGN SAYS INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE WAIVERS FOR THE
REDUCTION OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY
TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.
AND THE INCREASE IN THE BLOCK AVERAGE FOR THE FRONT YARD
BUILD-TO LINE.
YOU COULDN'T -- SO DID YOU WORK WITH THE URBAN DESIGN TO
TRY AND WRESTLE -- THEY USED TO SAY RASSLE ON THIS ISSUE.
21:52:41 >> NO, UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, THAT WOULD HAVE
THAT FRONT BLOCK FACE AVERAGE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN
SETBACK BACK AT LEAST 18 FEET TO ACCOMMODATE VEHICULAR
PARKING.
SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT THE BLOCK FACE AVERAGE
WAS.
YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO MOVE THAT FRONT FACADE OF THAT
HOUSE BACK TO A MINIMUM OF 18 FEET.
HOWEVER, THE BLOCK FACE IS LESS THAN 18 FEET.
NOT UNUSUAL FINDING IN A 1920s NEIGHBORHOOD PRIOR TO
VEHICLES.
AND ZONING CODES.
21:53:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SO ULTIMATELY WHERE DOES YOUR HOUSE
START?
21:53:23 >> AT 18 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, OR WILL START 18
FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, MAKING THAT MODIFICATION
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
21:53:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT'S TOO FAR
BACK?
IS THAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING?
21:53:36 >> UNDER THE URBAN DESIGN, THAT WOULD BE TOO FAR BACK.
BUT AS SOON AS URBAN DESIGN SAID THAT DOESN'T MEET BLOCK
FACE AVERAGE, IT'S TOO FAR BACK, THEY WOULD SAY, OH, BUT
TRANSPORTATION NEEDS A MINIMUM OF 18 FEET FOR FRONT
GARAGE.
21:53:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND YOU HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO PARK.
YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE SIDE.
21:53:59 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
21:54:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
HOW ABOUT FRONT PORCH?
GOT A FRONT PORCH?
21:54:05 >> YES, SIR.
21:54:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
WELL, YOU ARE A GOOD MAN.
MOVE TO CLOSE.
21:54:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL YOU NEED IS A HOUSE TO EXPAND
FROM 18 FEET TO 17½ AND YOU MOVE IT HOW YOU WANT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ LAUGHTER ]
21:54:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
21:54:25 >> SECOND.
21:54:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CAN I GET A MOTION?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC --
21:54:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M SORRY.
CLOSE IT.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
WE LEFT OFF WITH MR. VIERA.
SO NUMBER 5.
21:54:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 704 EAST LAKE AVENUE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND THE PETITIONER HAS MET
THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND SHOWN ALL EVIDENCE, LET'S SEE
HERE, IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GOALS,
OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS SEEN
IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND THAT'S REALLY IT.
I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD TO GO.
21:55:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THE REVISION SHEET.
21:55:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND THE REVISION SHEET.
MY APOLOGIES.
21:55:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
21:55:55 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
21:55:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
21:55:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
21:56:00 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
21:56:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
21:56:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I AM GOING TO VOTE YES WITH A CLICK
EXPLANATION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I THINK ALL OF US LIKE TO RESPECT THE STAFF'S OPINION AND
THE URBAN'S REVIEW FOLKS OPINION, BUT IN THIS CASE IT
SOUND LIKE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDER IS BETWEEN A ROCK AND
A HARD PLACE IN REGARD TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF PARKING
VERSUS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SETBACK AND THEN YOU HAVE
GOT PERHAPS MAYBE A TREE, SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, I'LL
VOTE YES.
21:56:33 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
AT 9:30 A.M.
21:56:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. ROBLES, LET ME SAY SOMETHING TO
YOU.
WE HAD A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT DOMAIN, BUT I CAN TELL
YOU, PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, AND MY AIDE
THROUGH THE PROGRAM WITH DOMAIN HOMES, AND I AM GOING TO
SAY JOB WELL DONE.
21:57:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
AND I THINK SHE STARTED THAT BEFORE
SHE WAS YOUR AGE, FOR THE RECORD.
21:57:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
21:57:16 >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GUDES.
IF YOU COULD INDULGE ME FOR 30 SECOND AS WELL, SINCE I
INDULGED YOU FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS FROM THE PREVIOUS
CASE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
YOU ARE TOO KIND.
I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.
YES, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE DID.
THIS IS THE FINAL URBAN 360 HOUSE IN EAST TAMPA.
NOW THAT WE HAVE GOT THE ZONING STRAIGHTENED OUT.
BUT POLITICIANS LIKE THE SPEECH OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
THAT SORT OF THING.
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE FACING A CRISIS LIKE YOU HAVE
NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
IF YOU THOUGHT IT WAS BAD NOW, GET READY, GUYS.
GET READY.
I PROMISE YOU.
AND I COME UPON POLITICAL LEADERS LIKE YOURSELVES TO TAKE
THE POLITICAL CAPITAL, TAKE THE POLITICAL HEAT AND GO
FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HOUSES IN THE GROUND, HOMES,
DWELLINGS, FOR FOLKS.
IT IS IMPERATIVE.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO IS IMPORTANT.
BUT IT REALLY BEGINS WITH HOUSING AND PEOPLE COMMITTED
INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WITHOUT SOME PATHWAY TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT IS GOING TO GET TO A CRISIS LEVEL
SO QUICKLY, EVERYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS DO IS NOT GOING TO
MATTER, I PROMISE YOU.
SO I'M DONE.
I SAID MY SPEECH.
21:58:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
JUST A LITTLE COURTESY TO EVERYONE.
A 2-BY-4 USED TO BE A COUPLE OF BUCKS.
21:58:48 >> NOT ANYMORE.
21:58:51 >> IT'S $9.37.
AND THIS IS WHY I WAS GOING ON, AND REPAIR A LITTLE SIDE
ROOF OR WHATEVER WENT UP BY 20%.
AND THINGS ARE JUST GOING SKY HIGH.
I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT A SHEET OF PLYWOOD COSTS.
21:59:08 >> I KNOW WHAT THEY COST.
I BUY THEM EVERY DAY.
21:59:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IN BUILDING A HOUSE NOW.
21:59:14 >> THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME TO ALLOW ME TO SAY THAT.
I AM PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
AND IT WILL BECOME HIGHER AND HIGHER ON YOU ALL'S AGENDA
AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, AND I WOULD NOT BE DRAMATIC IN
SAYING AT A CERTAIN POINT THIS IS GOING TO SLIP PAST
EVERYBODY ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE FOR CITIZENS OF
TAMPA, CITIZENS WHEREVER BUT CERTAINLY IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
GOT TO FIND A PLACE THAT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A PLACE TO
LIVE.
21:59:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
ALL RIGHT.
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
I THINK MR. DINGFELDER HAS TO RECUSE HIMSELF.
21:59:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES, SIR.
AT THIS TIME, MR. SHELBY IS COMING FORWARD WITH MY
RECUSAL FORM.
THIS IS MY DISCLOSURE FORM 8-B, AND SPECIFICALLY THIS
MEASURE BEFORE US REZ 21-27 IN REGARD TO 3807 WEST SWANN
AVENUE. I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS
QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
I AM ABSTAINING TO ENSURE FROM POTENTIAL BIAS OR
PREJUDICE TO AVOID AN APPEARANCE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
I HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED ON THIS PROJECT AS AN ATTORNEY,
AND THEREFORE, I AM NOT INVOLVED IN ANYTHING THAT'S GOING
ON RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST I PREVIOUSLY WORKED ON IT UP UNTIL
ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF.
22:00:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
MR. VIERA?
MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU, SIR.
ITEM NUMBER 7.
22:01:15 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, REZ 21-27.
22:01:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE CAN'T HEAR.
CAN YOU GET HIS VOLUME UP A LITTLE BIT?
I.T.?
22:01:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PUT IT CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH.
22:01:41 >> GREAT.
GOING OVER CASE REZ-21-27, THE APPLICANT AND
REPRESENTATIVE IS DAVID MECHANIK.
PROPERTY ADDRESS THERE IS 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN
AVENUE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS,
SLASH PROFESSIONAL.
I WILL NOW DEFER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
22:02:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE SCREEN SHOULD BE SHOWING.
THIS, IS REZ THE 1-27 LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT.
THE CLOSEST PROPERTY IS ONLY 225 EAST OF THE SITE ON WEST
DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, NORTH DALE MABRY HEY QUAY IS A
TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE, RIGHT ACROSS
THE STREET FROM THE TRADER JOE'S GROCERY STORE ALONG
SWANN AVENUE, THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EAST
ALONG SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF
RESIDENTIAL USES, TOWNHOMES TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN THE
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED FURTHER WEST.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL 20 ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE
DARKER COLOR AND THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IN THE PINK.
COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 PORTION RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY THE
SUBJECT OF A PLAN AMENDMENT IN 2017 TO APPROVE THE
COMMUNITY MIX 35.
THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS SOUTH ALONG THAT SOUTH DALE
MABRY HIGHWAY, THAT COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY,
AND IT IS WEST, TRANSITIONS -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] TO
FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
AS I STATED BEFORE, THERE ARE TWO FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATIONS ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES COME WITH TWO LAND USE
DESIGNATIONS.
HOWEVER WE DID FIND THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITHIN BOTH,
BECAUSE IT MEETS THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE
RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE.
IT'S LOCATED ON A COLLECTOR, WEST SWANN AVENUE.
DESIGNATED COLLECTOR AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA.
WE ALSO FOUND THE DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN
ESPECIALLY THE SIDEWALK BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANTS.
WE ALSO REVIEWED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, AND IT IS WITHIN
THAT FLOOR AREA RESIDENTIAL COUNT FOR THE PORTION OF THE
BUILDING SO WE DID FIND IT CONSISTENT.
THE PROVISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WAS
CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE POLICIES.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
22:04:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
22:04:47 >>ZAIN HUSAIN:
CAN I PLEASE HAVE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN?
WONDERFUL.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, CASE REZ 21-27.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE.
WE HAVE TWO WAIVERS REQUESTED HERE, SECTION 27-284.3.3 TO
BE REDUCE THE REQUIRED BUFFER ALONG THE WEST AND NORTH
SIDES FROM 50 FEET AND A 6-FOOT CMU WALL TO 6 TO 10 FEET
AND A 6-FOOT CMU WALL.
THIS TO BE MODIFIED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THE SECOND WAIVER IS SECTION 27-284.2.5 TO REMOVE A
35-INCH NONHAZARDOUS GRAND LIVE OAK DUE TO ITS LOCATION
NEAR THE CENTER OF THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 3807
AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
16 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
OF A 14,160 SQUARE FOOT TWO-STORY STRUCTURE WITH A
PROPOSED USE OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
THE SUBJECT SITE CONTAINS A TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF
APPROXIMATELY 26,515 SQUARE FEET, AND IS CURRENTLY USED
AS A CHILD CARE BUILDING ON 3807 WEST SWANN AVENUE AND
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON 3811 WEST SWANN
AVENUE.
THE PROPOSED SETBACKS FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING ARE AS
FOLLOWS.
TO THE NORTH, 10-FOOT.
SOUTH, 25 FEET.
TO THE EAST, 10 FEET.
AND TO THE WEST, 10 FEET.
THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 45 FEET HERE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED TWO BLOCKS TO THE WEST FROM THE
WEST SWANN AVENUE SOUTH DALE MABRY INTERSECTION.
ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WEST SWANN AVENUE, THE PROPOSED
PLAN SHOWS DUAL VEHICLE ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPERTY ON
WEST SWANN AVENUE.
THE PROPOSED USE REQUIRES 47 PARKING SPACES, AND A 38
PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED HERE.
THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
ATTACHED USE ZONED PD, FILE NUMBER ZO 2-18.
AND A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DETACHED USE, ZONED
RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO THE NORTH.
COMMERCIAL USE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO THE SOUTH
AND EAST, AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DETACHED USES
ZONED RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST.
THE OVERHEAD VIEW YOU CAN SEE MY THE PROPERTY WHERE MY
CURSOR IS, IN RED, THE TWO LOTS.
AS YOU LOOK AROUND THE AREA FOR ANY HISTORICAL PROPERTY,
THERE ARE NONE.
THE STRUCTURE IS SHADED IN GRAY.
AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN MY SUM YOU HAVE THE TWO ACCESS
POINTS HERE OFF WEST SWANN AVENUE.
WE HAVE THE ELEVATIONS HERE.
THE PROPERTY, THE SOUTH, NORTH, EAST AND WEST.
AND ALSO THE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY.
THE CURRENT SITE AS WE STATED AT 3807 CHILD CARE, AND TO
THE SOUTH OF THE SITE YOU HAVE TRADER JOE'S.
BEHIND THE SITE THERE'S NORTH.
YOU HAVE CHILD CARE FOLLOWED BY RESIDENTIAL.
TO THE WEST OF THE SITE DOWN WEST SWANN AND TO THE EAST
ENTERING THE INTERSECTION TO SOUTH DALE MABRY.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT BELOW AND APPROVE THE
APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST
BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
THANK YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE GLAD TO HELP YOU OUT.
22:09:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
HEARING NONE, THE APPLICANT?
22:09:18 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
CAN YOU HEAR ME, COUNCIL MEMBERS?
22:09:21 >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
22:09:27 >> I DO.
22:09:31 >>THE CLERK:
THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN
COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
22:09:36 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
MR. SHEPAL WHO I THINK IS PRESENT AT CITY HALL, AND THE
PURPOSE OF THIS REZONING APPLICATION IS FOR MR. SHAHAL TO
LOCATE HIS COMPANY AT THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING
TO BUILD.
FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE
DETAILS, BUT WE DO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE AGREE
WITH ALL OF THE REQUESTED REVISIONS AND SHOULD COUNCIL
APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, WE WILL MAKE THOSE REVISIONS
BEFORE SECOND READING.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE COUNCIL, MY CLIENT HAD TWO
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND AS A RESULT OF THOSE MEETINGS,
THE ASSOCIATION PROPERTY [INDISCERNIBLE] E-MAILED A
LETTER IN SUPPORT OF OUR REQUEST, AND WAS HIGHLY
COMPLIMENTARY OF THE DESIGN AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF
MOVING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT THAT MEETING, MR.
SHAHAL, AT THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORS, OFFERED TO MAKE
THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH IS TO ENHANCE THE SCREENING OF ALL
THE NORTH AND WEST PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW
FOR WHAT WOULD BE INITIALLY PLANTED AS A 10-FOOT
EVERGREEN HEDGE, SPACED 8 FEET ON CENTER, TWO AND A HALF
INCHES IN DIAMETER.
AND SO THAT WILL BECOME A SUBSTANTIAL SCREEN FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE NORTH.
AND I WON'T SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS, BUT I WOULD JUST
NOTE AGAIN THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF
THE DESIGN AS BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WILL BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE WAIVERS.
WE ARE ASKING FOR A FIVE-FOOT REDUCTION OF THE DISTANCE
FROM THE NORTH AND BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, REDUCTION
OF FIVE FEET.
[~DISTORTION~] HOWEVER, THAT REDUCTION IS MORE THAN
OFFSET BY THE -- OF MY CLIENT PLANNING TO INSTALL --
PROVIDE AMPLE [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
WE ALSO ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~],
WITHOUT OUR PROPOSAL.
WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION RUSSELL OTTENBERG
IS PRESENT AND OUR ARBORIST.
22:13:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM?
22:13:45 >> JAYNE:
THERE IS NO ONE TO SPEAK AT THIS MOMENT.
22:13:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY --
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
22:13:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE BY MR.
MANISCALCO.
SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE MR. MIRANDA.
22:14:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ 21-27.
MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AND BASED ON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
PROPOSED REZONING IS COME PARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, A RANGE OF USES AND
CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER, POLICY 1.2.8, AND
OBJECTIVE 6.1.
ALSO, THE DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PROMOTES AND
ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD, PROPOSED USE PROMOTES SUSTAINABLE USE OF
LAND AND STRUCTURE AND THE WAIVERS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO
PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT AND UNIQUE AND THEREFORE IN NEED
OF WAIVERS.
THE REQUESTED WAIVERS WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE
WITH OR INJURY THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD
BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
22:15:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA MOVED ITEM NUMBER 7.
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
22:15:42 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
22:15:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
22:15:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
22:15:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
22:15:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
22:15:53 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT,
DINGFELDER ABSTAINING.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
AT 9:30 A.M.
22:16:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 8 AND 9 WERE TOGETHER.
THAT LEAVES ITEM NUMBER 8, 9 INVALID.
IS THAT CORRECT?
22:16:15 >>RYAN MANASSE:
YES.
IF WE CAN OPEN THEM TOGETHER.
THE REZONING WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON FIRST AND THEN THE
INTRO, ITEM NUMBER 9, WILL BE SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
THEN AFTER THAT I CAN GO INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
REPORT FOR THE REZONING IN MY REPORT.
22:16:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ITEM NUMBER 8.
22:16:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TOGETHER THEN?
TOGETHER, MR. CHAIRMAN?
22:16:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NUMBER 8 AND 9, A MOTION TO OPEN THAT?
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM 8 AND 9.
MOVED BY MR. MIRANDA.
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU, SIR.
22:16:54 >>RYAN MANASSE:
I TURN IT OVER TO SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
22:17:07 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SENIOR ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ITEM NUMBER 9 IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN
EXISTING DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT WHICH SOME OF YOU
MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
THESE ARE CREATURES OF STATUTE ESTABLISHED BACK IN THE
EARLY 70s FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE A
SUBSTANTIAL EFFECT ON HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE
CITIZENS IN MORE THAN ONE PART OF THE COUNTY SO FROM A
MIXED USE PROJECT, THESE WERE THE PRIME KIND OF TARGET
FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACT.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED ACTIVE DRIs IN THE STATE
OF FLORIDA CURRENTLY.
HOWEVER, SINCE 2015, THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES
IN DRI STATUTES BY THE LEGISLATURE, SUCH THAT NOW INSTEAD
OF PROVIDING FOR STATE, REGIONAL, AS WELL AS LOCAL REVIEW
OF THESE PROJECTS, THE REVIEW FOR THESE OR AMENDED CITY
PROJECTS IS NOW WITHIN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S PURVIEW, SO
CITY OF TAMPA NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO REVIEW AND APPROVE
ENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACTS, AND THE
REZONING BEFORE YOU AS ITEM NUMBER 8 IS PROPOSING TO ADD
USES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY APPROVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT
OF REGIONAL IMPACT PROJECT, AND SO ITEM NUMBER 9 WOULD BE
TO SIMPLY CONSIDER ADDING THOSE TWO USES TO THE APPROVED
DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN THE DRI.
SO ITEM NUMBER 8 WILL BE TAKEN UP FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL
CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 9 IF YOU DECIDE THAT ITEM 8 IS
APPROPRIATE AND THE REZONING IS APPROPRIATE.
I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO STAFF.
22:18:50 >>RYAN MANASSE:
THANK YOU, SUSAN AND CHAIR.
I WILL JUST ENTER THE ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE REZ 21-28 FOR
THE PROPERTY AT 4110 GEORGE ROAD, FROM PD TO PD FOR
OFFICE BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL OR MEDICAL, RETAIL, STRIP
SHOPPING CENTER, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS,
CONVENIENCE GOODS, SPECIALTY GOODS WITH ALL COMMERCIAL
GENERAL USES, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, MULTIFAMILY MID
RISE, COLLEGE, RESTAURANT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED AND HOTEL OR MOTEL.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL DEFER TO PLANNING
COMMISSION'S REPORT AND IF YOU WOULD RETURN TO ME
AFTERWARDS.
22:19:29 >>JENNIFER MALONE:
PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS IS REZ 21-28.
SORRY.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT.
IN THE CULVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE UPPER LEFT,
GOLF COURSE TO THE SOUTH.
THE EAST OR COMMERCIAL USES AND TO THE NORTH ARE
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
THE BE SUBJECT SITE IS COMMUNITY USED 35.
THE PINK COLOR CONTINUES TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH IS
RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE WHICH IS THE GREEN AND THE ROCKY
GOLF POINT GOLF COURSE THAT I POINTED OUT BEFORE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT
WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE USES PROPOSED UNDER THE PD ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT
COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, ALSO
THE ORIENTATION ON THE BUILDINGS IN KEEPING WITH THE
MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICIES.
SO YES, IN KEEPING WITH THOSE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF
THE CORRIDORS, SO THE ADDITION OF THE USES UNDER THE PD
CAN BE WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION, AND THE REQUEST FOR
ADDITIONAL HOUSING TYPES AND RESTAURANT USES IN
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PDS AND SERVE THE TAMPA INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORT.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
22:21:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANASSE.
22:21:29 >>RYAN MANASSE:
I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN, IF YOU LET ME
KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THE WELCOME.
22:21:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SEE IT.
22:21:36 >> AGAIN ITEM NUMBER 8 IS FILE REZ 21-28.
WE WENT OVER THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD AND ALL
THE SPECIFIED USES I PREVIOUSLY STATED AS WELL AS THE
ONES OUTLINED IN THE PowerPoint.
THE PowerPoint ON SCREEN OR THE PRESENTATION ON SCREEN
RATE NOW DOES SHOW THE 7 PREVIOUS APPROVED WAIVERS FROM
REZ 17-01.
AND THEN THE NEW WAIVERS ARE DOWN BELOW.
THERE IS A STRICKEN WAIVER, AND I WILL EXPLAIN THAT
BRIEFLY.
OF THE WAS TO REMOVE THE NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREE BUT
BECAUSE THE TREE WAS PREVIOUSLY CUT DOWN, IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT WILL GO THROUGH WITH THE REZONING, IT
WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANOTHER
AGENCY WITH THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO HANDLE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT BE STRICT FRIEND THIS NEW WAIVER
REQUESTED AND THE WAIVER WE ARE LEFT WITH IS SECTION
27-284.4 AND THAT'S TO PAY PAYMENT INTO CITY OF TREE
TRUST FUND FOR THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF TREES.
THE PETITIONER PROPOSING TO -- THE PROPERTY AT 4110
GEORGE ROAD ALSO KNOWN AS INDEPENDENCE PARK, FILE REZ
17010th 1, TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL OPTION FOR MIX OF
USES LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY WAS LAST REZONED IN 2017 FROM PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE TP -- PDA AND APPROVED FOR THE
USE OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE RETAIL SALES, HOTEL,
AND ADULT EDUCATION USES, IN ADDITION TO THE MULTIFAMILY
RESIDENTIAL USES APPROVED IN 2006.
THIS APPLICATION SEEKS TO ADD ALTERNATIVE ADDITIONAL USE
OPTIONS FOR THE PROJECT WHICH WOULD BE EXECUTED THROUGH
THE USE OF THE REVISED MATRIX APPROVED AS PART OF THE
INDEPENDENT PD AND DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT OR DRI
A PROMISE.
PROPOSED USES ARE LIMITED TO SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
RESIDENTIAL, AND RESTAURANT USES AVAILABLE ONLY TO THE
AREA IDENTIFIED ON THE ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN AS OPTION 2.
CONSISTENCY WITH THE PD ZONING IS EVALUATED THROUGH THE
INCREMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS PRIOR TO PERMITTING.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL CONTAINS 43.21 ACRES, UNDER THE
EXISTING ZONING AND DRI APPROVALS IS 825,000 GROSS SQUARE
FEET, AND INCLUDES THE EXISTING 125,575 SQUARE FEET OF
OFFICE BUILDING WHICH IS A MINIMUM ALLOWABLE OFFICE
DEVELOPMENT.
THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP BEYOND 825,000 GFS TO THE 1
MILLION MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO AN ADDITIONAL
TRANSPORTATION IMPACT AND REVIEW AND REQUIRES THE COUNCIL
APPROVAL.
THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 2006-2017 AND THE NEW 2021
ALTERNATIVE USES EXECUTED THROUGH THE EQUIVALENCY MATRIX
ARE SUBJECT TO ENSURE THERE ARE NO NET TRIP IMPACTS.
THERE ARE NO STAND ALONE CHANGES TO THE DRI AND THE
ASSOCIATED DRI ORDINANCE IF APPROVED WILL ALLOW THE
CHANGES PROPOSED IN THE PD REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
THE REZONING.
PROPOSED USES ARE SUBJECT TO THE EQUIVALENCY NATURE
APPROVED AS PART OF THE INDEPENDENT PARK PROJECT
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN 2017, 1701, ORDINANCE 20-17 -08
AND THE NEW USES REQUESTED AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL.
THIS ALTERNATIVE USE IF DEVELOPED WOULD DRAW DOWN FROM
THE OVERALL PROJECT ENTITLEMENTS, SETBACKS MAXIMUM
ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 150 FEET.
THE PD REQUEST PROPOSES TWO OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT, AND
IN THE SCREEN KIND OF OUTLINE OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2, I
WILL HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT MORE ON THAT IN THEIR
PRESENTATION.
IT IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS THE ONE SLIDE.
VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THIS SITE IS PROPOSED ON MEMORIAL
HIGHWAY.
INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY AND GEORGE ROAD.
THESE VEHICULAR ACCESS POINTS WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN
2017.
APPROVAL WILL NOT CHANGE UNDER THIS PD REQUEST.
OPTION ONE IS 3,310 SPACES INCLUDING 56 ADA SPACES AND
6,600 SPACES INCLUDING 1031 ADA SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED.
PARKING REQUIRED FOR OPTION 2 IS 1,710 SPACES INCLUDING
38 ADA SPACES AND 47 ADA SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED.
AND THEN FOR OPTION NUMBER 1 AND TWO I TOOK A SNIPPET
FROM THE STAFF REPORT SHOWING THE SETBACKS FROM NORTH
MEMORIAL HIGHWAY SOUTHWEST INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY AND EAST
WHICH WOULD BE GEORGE ROAD.
JENNIFER DID A GREAT JOB OUTLINING THE AREA AND I WILL
KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT THE LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC
LANDMARKS ARE NOT WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
GENERALLY MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, AND JENNIFER DID OUTLINE THAT
TO THE NORTH AND YOU SEE THE GOLF COURSE TO THE SOUTH AS
WELL AS RECREATIONAL USES OVER HERE SOUTH OF INDEPENDENCE
PARKWAY.
THIS IS SHOWING YOU OPTION NUMBER 1 PLAN.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED A LONG WITH THE
REZONING FOR FINAL REVIEW IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THEN I TOOK A SNIPPET FROM THE 24 PAGE PACKET OF OPTION
NUMBER 2 PLAN AS WELL.
EXISTING ELEVATIONS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
OPTION 1.
THERE'S SOME MORE ELEVATIONS, OPTION 1 AND 2 BUILDING
ELEVATIONS.
OPTION 1 AND 2 PARKING STRUCTURE ELEVATIONS.
OPTION 2 BUILDING 14.
YOU CAN SEE THE PLAN DOWN HERE TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
AND THIS IS OPTION 2 BUILDING 14 AS WELL.
OPTION NUMBER 2 BUILDING 17.
AND THEN STAFF WENT OUT AND TOOK SOME PHOTOS, BUT
GENERALLY THE AERIAL WOULD GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF THE
SURROUNDING AREA AND THE DEVELOPMENT SITE.
WITH THAT ALL BE SAID THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND WE FIND IT
QUINT THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN ARE
REQUIRED AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET AND ALL MY STAFF
IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
22:27:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT?
22:27:48 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT HIGHWOODS REALTY.
WITH ME THIS EVENING IS DAN WOODWARD OF HIGHWOOD.
RANDY COEN OF COEN AND COMPANY.
AND WE ARE HERE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
RYAN HAS DONE A VERY THOROUGH REPORT.
AND I WOULD STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE AGREE THAT ALL
THE REVISIONS [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]
MY PRESENTATION WILL ADDRESS ITEMS 8 AND 9.
I UNDERSTAND YOU WILL VOTE ON THOSE SEPARATELY.
TAMPA CHANGES ARE REALLY QUITE SIMPLE.
WE ARE ONLY ASKING TO ADD SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
RESIDENTIAL TO THE PROPERTY, TOWNHOMES, AND ASKING TO ADD
A RESTAURANT TO THE PROJECT.
THE REST OF THE LONG LIST OF USES ARE ALL ONES THAT WERE
APPROVED IN PREVIOUS APPROVALS OF THE PROJECT.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE RANDY COEN WHO IS
GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE SITE PLANS, AND DISCUSS THE
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED -- AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE,
RYAN'S REFERENCE TO THE REMOVAL OF THE GRAND TREE, THAT
WAS AN ERROR ON THE PART OF THE TREE REMOVAL COMPANY.
HIGHWOOD WILL ADDRESS ANY MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS THAT
ARE NECESSARY AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE FULLY IN COMPLIANCE
WITH THE CITY'S REGULATIONS.
WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RANDY.
22:30:00 >>THE CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
(OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
22:30:09 >>RANDY COEN:
I DO.
GOOD EVENING.
RYAN AND DAVID HAVE BOTH DONE FINE JOBS DESCRIBING THE
PROJECT AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE ADDED TWO SMALL LAND USES
TO THE PROJECT BEING SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
WE UPDATED OUR TREE EVALUATION AND IMPACT ANALYSIS WHICH
WERE REQUIRED BY PERMIT AND ZONING CONDITION.
THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE AND THOSE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AS
FINE.
WE DID DO SOME MINOR CHANGES TO SETBACKS TO
ACCOMMODATE -- AS WELL AS THE TOWNHOUSE USES, AND I WILL
GO THROUGH THE WAIVERS.
THERE ARE SEVEN EXISTING WAIVERS.
THE CHANGES WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT HAVE NOT CHANGED ANY
OTHER JUSTIFICATIONS TO THESE WAIVERS.
THE FIRST WAIVER IS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS
TO ONE FOR EACH BUILDING WHERE A LOADING BERTH IS
REQUIRED.
THAT'S A STANDARD CONDITION IN THE WESTSHORE AREA.
THIS PROJECT IS ADJACENT TO IT.
SO IT'S A WAIVER HERE.
THAT'S HOW THE BUILDING WOULD BE BUILT THAT EXISTED
TODAY.
THE SECOND WAIVER IRONICALLY IS ANOTHER GRAND TREE THAT
WAS ACTUALLY REMOVED IN 2017, OR 2018.
BUT THERE IS A LEGACY WAIVER AND WAIVERS 3 THROUGH 7, THE
REMAINDER OF THE EXISTING APPROVED WAIVERS, ALL RELATE
TOTAL ALTERNATIVE SIGN PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR
THE PROJECT.
THE VARIETY MAJORITY OF THOSE SIGNS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
THE ONES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INSTALLED ARE THE ONES THAT
WOULD BE ON BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED AFTER
CONSTRUCTION.
THE NEW WAIVER IS ONE REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
PROVIDE FOR THE OPTION OF PAYING INTO THE TREE TRUST
FUND, IF WE CANNOT PLANT ALL OF THE MITIGATION TREES
ON-SITE.
WE BELIEVE WE CAN PLANT THEM ALL ON-SITE BUT WE HAVE NO
OBJECTION TO ADDING THIS WAIVER BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
22:32:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
ANY QUESTIONS?
ALL RIGHT.
22:32:09 >>DAVID MECHANIK:
IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY QUESTIONS THAT
WOULD CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION.
I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT THE ARBORIST ON THE PROJECT
IS PETERIKA AND HE IS ALSO PRESENT IF COUNCIL HAS ANY
QUESTIONS.
WITH THAT, WE WILL CONCLUDE OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU.
22:32:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
22:32:37 >> THERE'S NO ONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM NOR ON NUMBER 9.
WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER.
22:32:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A REGISTERED SPEAKER.
OKAY.
I HAVE JEAN STROHMEYER.
HOWEVER, I AM NOT ABLE TO ELEVATE HER.
SHE'S NOT LOGGED ON TO THE SITE THAT ALLOWS ME TO ELEVATE
HER AS A PANELIST.
22:33:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.
MOVE TO CLOSE?
MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
MR. DINGFELDER, COULD YOU READ NUMBER 8, PLEASE?
22:33:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO MOVE REZ 21-28.
SPECIFICALLY I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS MET HIS BURDEN
PROVIDING COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, THE
DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY
DECODE CODE AND I FIND THAT THE REQUESTED WAIVERS IF ANY
DO NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND
GENERAL WELFARE, ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, STAFF REPORTS AS STATED.
AND I WILL INCORPORATE THEIR REPORTS INTO MY MOTION.
SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO REZ 21-28, MOVE THE FOLLOWING
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4110 GEORGE ROAD IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS,
PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, RETAIL SALES, HOTEL, ADULT
EDUCATION, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE,
RETAIL SALES, ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AND MULTIFAMILY, HOTEL, MOTEL,
COLLEGE, RESTAURANT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
22:35:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
22:35:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND ANY CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING, REVISION SHEET?
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY, MR. DINGFELDER?
WITH THE REVISION SHEET, MR. MANASSE?
22:35:21 >>RYAN MANASSE:
YES.
22:35:22 >>THE CLERK:
MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
ROLL CALL.
22:35:25 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
22:35:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
22:35:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
22:35:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
22:35:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
22:35:34 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
AT 9:30 A.M.
22:35:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO DO
NUMBER 9.
22:35:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
22:35:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
DID WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
THAT, MR. SHELBY?
22:35:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ON NUMBER 9 ON DRI?
I BELIEVE YOU MADE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
22:36:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MANISCALCO TO CLOSE, VIERA SECOND.
22:36:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
I WILL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE
REGARDING DZ 02-77 FOR AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA APPROVING THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO A DEVELOPMENT
ORDER RENDERED PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 380.06 FLORIDA
STATUTES, FOR THE INDEPENDENCE PARK DEVELOPMENT OF
REGIONAL IMPACT, DRI, NUMBER 250, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
22:36:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
22:36:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
22:36:41 >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
22:36:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
22:36:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
22:36:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
22:36:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
22:36:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES.
22:36:50 >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
AT 9:30 A.M.
22:36:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS MR.
CARLSON.
22:37:01 >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, JUST THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR
ALLOWING ME TO WORK FROM HOME THIS EVENING.
22:37:07 >>LUIS VIERA:
NOTHING SIR.
22:37:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WITH MR. SHELBY'S HELP, I WOULD LIKE TO FAIL FORM 8-B TO
MY MEMORANDUM OF VOTING CONFLICT SPECIFICALLY AS RELATED
TO THE ITEM LAST WEEK, REZ 20-92, AND THAT MATTER I
ABSTAINED TO ENSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING.
AND I WILL FILE THIS WITH THE CLERK AT YOUR AGREEMENT.
22:37:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
MR. MIRANDA?
22:37:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOTHING.
22:37:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO MOVE AND RECEIVE?
22:37:56 >> ONE SECOND.
22:37:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE GETTING --
22:38:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.
22:38:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.
22:38:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
YOUR MIKE IS ON.
[ LAUGHTER ]
22:38:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD
LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO TAKE UP, AND ONE OF THEM IS
COUNCIL NEEDS TO -- I WOULD ASK TO FILE -- EXCUSE ME,
RECEIVE AND FILE THE MATERIAL FROM THE APRIL 22ND
WORKSHOP THAT WE OMITTED.
SO IF WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, APRIL
22ND WORKSHOP ITEMS.
22:38:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
22:38:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THE OTHER THING, I FAILED WITH THE
CLERK UNDER NEW BUSINESS A RESOLUTION, TWO OF THEM, TO
RATIFY PREVIOUS MOTIONS OF COUNCIL RELATIVE TO YOUR
APPOINTMENTS, AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE TO CORRECT A
SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
SO IF WE COULD ACCEPT A MOTION FOR THAT FOR YOUR
SIGNATURE.
22:39:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVED BY MIRANDA, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
22:39:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE NOW YOU HAVE A MOTION COMING
UP TO RECEIVE AND FILE FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING.
22:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY MIRANDA,
SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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