TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 13, 2021
6:00 P.M.
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18:05:44 [ROLL CALL]
18:05:53 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
18:05:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
18:05:56 MR. SHELBY.
18:05:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:06:01 GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS
18:06:05 OF THE PUBLIC.
18:06:07 MAY 13, 2021.
18:06:11 A QUASI-JUDICIAL AND OTHER LAND USE RELATED MATTERS OF
18:06:15 THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AHEAD IN THE COVID-19 STATE OF
18:06:18 EMERGENCY AND BEING CONDUCTED LIVE WITH AN IN-PERSON
18:06:22 QUORUM LIVE IN CITY CHAMBERS AS YOU HEARD FROM THE
18:06:23 CLERK.
18:06:25 WITH COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE
18:06:34 ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIA VIDEO TELECONFERENCING AS
18:06:38 COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT AND ADOPTED BY
18:06:43 RESOLUTION 2020-225 AND AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER
18:06:46 2020-490.
18:06:49 TONIGHT, THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
18:06:53 ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW THIS ON SPECTRUM 640
18:06:57 AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15 AND ON THE INTERNET AT
18:07:02 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM, ONE WORD.
18:07:08 NOW THERE ARE WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE
18:07:08 HEARINGS.
18:07:13 THEY CAN PARTICIPATE REMOTELY THROUGH CMT AND THEY MUST
18:07:15 PREREGISTER TO DO SO.
18:07:20 INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE, REREGISTER AT
18:07:27 TAMPA.GOV/QUASI, SPELLED Q-U-A-S-I.
18:07:30 THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE THERE.
18:07:35 AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS BESIDE REREGISTERING, YOU
18:07:39 MUST USE A SPECIFIC MEDIA DEVICE SUCH AS A TABLET OR
18:07:42 COMPUTER EQUIPED WITH A CAMERA THAT WILL ENABLE YOU BE
18:07:45 TO SEEN BY CAMERA AND HEARD BY AUDIO.
18:07:48 CELL PHONES AND SMARTPHONES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AS THEY
18:07:51 WILL NOT ALLOW TO YOU SHARE YOUR CAMERA WHEN CONNECTED.
18:07:53 SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
18:07:57 AGAIN, ALL THOSE FORMS AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE
18:08:01 ON THE TAMPA.GOV/QUASI WEB SITE.
18:08:05 THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SEND IN COMMENTS
18:08:07 IN ADVANCE VIA E-MAIL.
18:08:12 AND THERE ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO SEND IN COMMENTS
18:08:14 VIA U.S. MAIL.
18:08:16 ALSO, APPLICANTS AND INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
18:08:20 WHO WISH TO APPEAR IN PERSON USING CMT OR DO NOT HAVE
18:08:24 ACCESS TO A COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE OR UNABLE TO
18:08:28 PARTICIPATE VIA CMT, THEY MAY UTILIZE THE CMT
18:08:32 FACILITIES THAT ARE BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC
18:08:36 TONIGHT BY THE CITY OF TAMPA HERE AT OLD CITY HALL, 350
18:08:39 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
18:08:43 PLEASE NOTE, THAT USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
18:08:46 INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.
18:08:50 TO READ THE COMMENTS DELIVERED AND RECEIVED BY MAIL AND
18:08:52 E-MAIL, THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO BE ACCESSED AT
18:08:56 TAMPA.GOV/AGENDAS.
18:08:59 AGAIN, THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S
18:09:01 WEB SITE.
18:09:04 WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR E-MAIL HAVE BEEN
18:09:08 DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE PRESERVED IN
18:09:10 THE PERMANENT RECORD OF THE MEETING AND ALL PUBLIC
18:09:17 COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR CMT WILL AFFORD EQUAL
18:09:23 CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE --
18:09:31 THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THE GO TO MEETING PLATFORM ON
18:09:33 THE CITY'S REGISTRATION.
18:09:37 THERE IS A CHAT FUNCTION AND A REMINDER THAT IS ONLY
18:09:38 FOR TECHNICAL ISSUES.
18:09:43 PLEASE BE REMINDED, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE PUBLIC
18:09:47 THAT THE CHAT FUNCTION IS NOT TO BE USED TO COMMUNICATE
18:09:49 TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
18:09:53 AND LIKEWISE, COUNCIL, PLEASE BE REMINDED OF ANY
18:09:56 OBLIGATION IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION
18:09:59 DURING THE HEARING PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM PUBLICLY.
18:10:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:10:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
18:10:07 A MEMO OF COUNCILMAN CITRO'S ABSENCE.
18:10:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
18:10:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:10:19 ANY OPPOSED?
18:10:21 MR. SHELBY, GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
18:10:23 ANY HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS?
18:10:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE ARE SOME HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.
18:10:31 MR. MANASSE IS HERE TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
18:10:34 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REQUESTING A
18:10:38 CONTINUANCE, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE TO
18:10:44 OCTOBER 14 AT 6 P.M.
18:10:49 STEPHEN MICHELINI IS DOWNSTAIRS.
18:10:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.
18:10:56 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
18:10:58 SEND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
18:11:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, THIS IS MAY.
18:11:05 THAT IS FIVE MONTHS OUT.
18:11:08 AND THE QUESTION I HAVE, I GUESS, FOR MR. MICHELINI IS
18:11:11 DOES HE INTEND TO ADVERTISE THAT BECAUSE JUST COUNCIL
18:11:15 -- YOU AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT NORMALLY FOR
18:11:18 CONTINUANCES THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL MAILING OR POSTING
18:11:20 WITH REGARD TO THE CONTINUED STATE.
18:11:22 SO THE ONLY WAY THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW WOULD BE TO
18:11:26 BE AWARE THAT OCTOBER 14 AT 6 P.M. IS THE DATE BEING
18:11:30 ASKED AND SET TONIGHT IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
18:11:32 MR. MICHELINI IS PRESENT.
18:11:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MICHELINI?
18:11:37 >> YES, SIR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM RENOTICING.
18:11:40 THAT DATE IS KIND OF FAR OFF AND IT WOULD BE
18:11:45 APPROPRIATE FOR US TO RENOTICE.
18:11:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS MY MOTION.
18:11:52 REMOVE.
18:11:53 >> THANK YOU.
18:11:55 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT AND
18:11:57 COORDINATION.
18:11:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THERE A VOTE?
18:12:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE WAS A VOTE.
18:12:06 YOU PREFER A ROLL CALL VOTE.
18:12:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:12:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:12:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:12:14 >>CLERK: CITRO.
18:12:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:12:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:12:21 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
18:12:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANASSE.
18:12:33 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 4 FILE NO. REZ--21-06
18:12:37 CONTINUED TO -- [INAUDIBLE] -- AND CHECKING TO MAKE
18:12:41 SURE WE ARE NOT GOING OVER OUR LIMIT.
18:12:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:12:44 MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
18:12:47 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
18:12:50 ROLL CALL VOTE.
18:12:51 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:12:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:12:53
18:12:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:12:58 >>CLERK: CITRO.
18:13:13 >> ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NO. REZ-21-25 CANNOT BE HEARD.
18:13:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
18:13:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:13:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:13:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:13:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:13:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:13:30 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
18:13:33 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 8 AND 9 ARE MORE
18:13:34 INFORMATIONAL.
18:13:36 A REZONING ALONG WITH A DRI.
18:13:39 THEY NEED TO BE HEARD TOGETHER AND VOTED SEPARATELY,
18:13:42 AND THE REZONING WILL HAVE TO BE VOTED FOR FIRST.
18:13:44 I NEED TO MAKE THAT APPARENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
18:13:47 AGENDA AND STAFF NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN BEFORE WE START
18:13:52 OUR ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:13:54 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
18:13:56 MOTION TO MOVE THE QUASI HEARING.
18:13:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
18:14:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
18:14:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
18:14:06 ANY OPPOSED.
18:14:08 ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:14:13 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
18:14:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OUR SCREENS ARE NOT -- OUR SCREENS
18:14:19 ARE NOT UP.
18:14:20 THERE WE GO.
18:14:24 >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE
18:14:28 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
18:14:28 >> I DO.
18:14:35 >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
18:14:37 >>ZANE HUSAIN: HI THERE, ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT
18:14:39 COORDINATION.
18:14:43 FILE NO. REZ-20-83.
18:14:46 THE APPLICANT IS MICHELLE LAMONT.
18:14:51 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE A REZONING FROM RS-60
18:14:58 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
18:15:00 I WILL REFER OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS
18:15:06 TIME.
18:15:07 >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
18:15:09 COMMISSION.
18:15:15 DO I HAVE PERMISSION TO SEE MY SCREEN.
18:15:19 >> COUNCIL, AM I BEING HEARD?
18:15:22 I AM MICHELLE LAMONT AND OWNER OF 1909 --
18:15:25 >> MISS LAMONT, I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE ASKED JENNIFER
18:15:29 MALONE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE
18:15:30 PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:15:33 >> I AM SORRY.
18:15:33 >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
18:15:35 JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:15:42 I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT GROWN FOR FILE NO.
18:15:44 REZ-20-83.
18:15:48 A SINGLE-FAMILY WITHIN A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
18:15:50 NEIGHBORHOOD BUT WE HAVE A SCHOOL, THE TRINITY SCHOOL
18:15:53 FOR THE CHILDREN -- FOR CHILDREN IN THE VICINITY AND TO
18:15:56 THE NORTH IS A HOSPITAL.
18:16:00 THAT LAND USE PATTERN IS PRESENT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE
18:16:01 MAP.
18:16:06 THE ORANGE COVER IS THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
18:16:10 THAT SCHOOL IS UNDER COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, WHICH IS
18:16:10 THE PINK COLOR.
18:16:15 AND THEN THE -- THE BLUE IS THE PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC AT
18:16:15 THE HOSPITAL.
18:16:17 I PRINTED OUT ON THE AERIAL.
18:16:21 THE RED IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
18:16:25 IT IS NOT PRESENT ON THE MAP THAT ARMENIA AVENUE IS
18:16:26 WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:16:30 AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL BUSINESSES ALONG ARMENIA
18:16:30 AVENUE.
18:16:34 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER
18:16:37 MILE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON NORTH ARMENIA.
18:16:40 IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE, AND THE
18:16:45 CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS AL LOPEZ PARK TWO
18:16:46 MILES WEST OF THE SITE.
18:16:48 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT
18:16:49 WITH THE PLAN.
18:16:56 THE PORTION OF ERNA DRIVE AND WEST ELLIS HAVE .363
18:16:58 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
18:17:00 THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
18:17:05 DETACHED RESIDENCES FOR THE SITE OF 4.87, WHICH IS WELL
18:17:07 BELOW WHAT IS CONSIDERED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10
18:17:10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
18:17:13 THIS REQUEST SUPPORTS THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE PLAN
18:17:16 WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING
18:17:20 POPULATION ESPECIALLY ON THOSE VACANT OR UNREALIZED
18:17:23 SITE AND COMPATIBLE INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE AREA
18:17:26 THAT IS PLANNED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF UP TO
18:17:28 10 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
18:17:31 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE
18:17:32 FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:17:32 THANK YOU.
18:17:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:17:38 MR. HUSAIN.
18:17:40 >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
18:17:43 MAY I PLEASE HAVE THE SCREEN, PLEASE.
18:17:51 SEE IF I CAN GET THIS.
18:17:52 WONDERFUL.
18:17:56 CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
18:17:57 ZANE HUSAIN.
18:18:04 PROPERTY IS 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE.
18:18:06 NO WAIVERS REQUESTED.
18:18:10 THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO REZONE 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE
18:18:16 FROM RS-60 TO PD FOR TWO DETACHED RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
18:18:21 THE PROPERTY CONTAINS 17,772.20 SQUARE FEET.
18:18:25 MINIMUM LOT AREA FOR THE RS-60 ZONING DISTRICT IS 6,000
18:18:31 SQUARE FEET AND BOTH PROPOSED LOTS PARCEL CONTAINS
18:18:37 10602 SQUARE FEET AND PARCEL TWO 7308 SQUARE FEET MEETS
18:18:40 THIS REQUIREMENT.
18:18:46 THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH FOR ZONING WIDTH IS 60 FEET.
18:18:50 PARCEL ONE MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT AND PARCEL TWO DOES
18:18:53 NOT MEET THIS REQUIREMENT AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN
18:18:55 APPROVAL THROUGH A PD AT THIS TIME.
18:18:59 THE APPLICATION REQUEST FOR THE LOT AS CONFIGURED TO BE
18:19:01 CONSTRUCTED WITH ONE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE
18:19:02 ON EACH LOT.
18:19:06 PARCEL ONE HAS AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DETACHED
18:19:08 STRUCTURE WHICH WILL REMAIN.
18:19:12 THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WISH HURTS OF WELLS
18:19:16 PARK SUBDIVISION THAT WAS PLATTED IN 1939.
18:19:19 THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE WEST
18:19:23 ERNA DRIVE, WEST DALLAS AVENUE INTERSECTION.
18:19:27 THE PROPOSED PD SETBACKS FOR PARCEL ONE IS TO THE
18:19:33 NORTH, 25 FEET, SOUTH, 25 FEET, EAST, 7 FEET, AND WEST
18:19:34 7 FEET.
18:19:39 VEHICULAR -- VEHICULAR ACCESS MUST HAVE A SETBACK OF 10
18:19:42 FEET FOR TWO CARS AND 18 FEET FOR ONE CAR.
18:19:45 PARCEL TWO, TO THE NORTH, 25 FEET SETBACK.
18:19:48 SOUTH, 25-FEET SETBACK.
18:19:50 EAST, 7 FEET.
18:19:52 AND WEST 7 FEET.
18:19:55 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS FOR PARCEL ONE AND TWO
18:19:59 NEED TO BE LABELED ON THE SITE PLAN ON THE SITE DATA
18:20:00 TABLE.
18:20:02 ELEVATION BUILDING HEIGHT OF 20 FEET.
18:20:05 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT RS-60
18:20:09 TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
18:20:12 DETACHED DWELLINGS ON ALL SIDES.
18:20:17 THE WISH HART PLAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1939, THE
18:20:22 OVERALL PLAT EXTENDS FROM DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
18:20:27 BOULEVARD NORTH TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
18:20:30 WEST TO PARTS AND EAST TO THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND
18:20:33 NEWPORT AVENUE.
18:20:35 THE SUBJECT APPLICATION LOOK TO SPLIT THE LOT OF RECORD
18:20:37 TO CREATE TWO BUILDABLE LOTS.
18:20:42 THE OVERALL AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES -- INCLUDED 245
18:20:46 TOTAL ZONING LOTS.
18:20:49 THREE OR 1% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A
18:20:56 WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS AND 242 OR 99% HAVE BEEN
18:20:59 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET FOR GREATER.
18:21:02 PURSUANT TO A REVIEW OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
18:21:06 PATTERN, THE SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 11 TOTAL ZONING
18:21:11 LOTS, 11 OR 100% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH
18:21:14 A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND ZERO HAVE BEEN
18:21:19 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
18:21:25 THE 1900 BLOCK OF WEST ERNA DRIVE CONTAINS 18 TOTAL
18:21:28 ZONING LOTS, 18 OR 100% OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN
18:21:32 DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER AND ZERO
18:21:37 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
18:21:41 NO LOTS OF SUBJECT -- OF SUBJECT -- OF THE SUBJECT
18:21:46 BLOCK HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR
18:21:47 LESS.
18:21:49 STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 99% OF THE LOTS IN THIS
18:21:54 STUDY, 100% OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK AND 100% OF THE BLOCK
18:21:59 FACE AND 1900 BLOCK OF WEST ERNA DRIVE ARE 60 FEET FOR
18:22:01 GREATER IN WIDTH.
18:22:04 STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED RECON FIGS FIGURE RATION OF
18:22:06 THE PROPOSED LOT TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
18:22:10 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL STUDY AREA BLOCK AND
18:22:12 BLOCK FACE.
18:22:15 GO TO MY NEXT SITE HERE, YOU WILL SEE ON THE
18:22:19 CONFIGURING MAP THAT THIS IS INCONSISTENT IF YOU LOOK
18:22:26 AT THE BLACK AREA RIGHT HERE AROUND THE SITE.
18:22:30 IN THE AREA THERE ARE NO OTHER -- THERE ARE NO OTHER
18:22:36 LOTS LIKE THIS.
18:22:40 AS YOU SEE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE MAP, THERE ARE NO
18:22:49 HISTORIC MARKS -- LANDMARKS AROUND THE AREA AND YOU SEE
18:22:53 THE SITE PLAN HERE.
18:22:55 LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS TO THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE THE
18:22:58 EXISTING STRUCTURE AND TO THE LEFT OF THE ELEVATIONS
18:23:04 YOU SEE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
18:23:07 PICTURES THE SITE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PICTURE,
18:23:10 YOU SEE THE SITE ITSELF OR THE STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY
18:23:12 RESIDING.
18:23:19 YOU SEE EAST SIDE AND ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TO
18:23:20 THE SOUTH.
18:23:24 TO THE LEFT OF THE SITE, YOU SEE THE INTERSECTION OR
18:23:25 WEST DALLAS.
18:23:27 AND TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, YOU SEE WEST DALLAS
18:23:31 COMING NORTH TO SOUTH.
18:23:34 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED
18:23:38 THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
18:23:40 THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
18:23:42 PLEASE REFERENCE FIND BIGGS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
18:23:46 RELATING TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE
18:23:46 IMMEDIATE AREA.
18:23:48 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO
18:23:51 APPROVE THE APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE
18:23:54 SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN
18:23:58 FIRST AND SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE
18:23:59 REVISION SHEET.
18:24:00 THANK YOU.
18:24:05 I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
18:24:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:24:10 THE APPLICANT, MISS LAMONT.
18:24:12 >> COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
18:24:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD EVENING.
18:24:20 >> I WANT TO SIMPLY STATE THAT IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE
18:24:21 HERE.
18:24:24 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
18:24:30 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THIS PROPERTY IS
18:24:34 THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR A FEW
18:24:36 YEARS, AND SOMETHING MY BROTHER STARTED.
18:24:38 WE ARE TRYING TO FINISH IT.
18:24:41 UNFORTUNATELY, HE PASSED AWAY EARLY.
18:24:44 AND WE HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE WELLS WOOD AREA SINCE
18:24:46 THE EARLY '80S.
18:24:48 THE PROPERTY MEANS A LOT.
18:24:54 I KNOW IT IS A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY AS WE SEE, AND WE
18:24:59 WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SINGLE-STORY
18:25:04 1800-SQUARE-FOOT HOME WITH A DOUBLE CAR GARAGE AND
18:25:09 DESIGN WITH DECORATIVE BRICK AND STUCCO.
18:25:11 THE BUILDING HEIGHT WILL BE 20 FEET.
18:25:15 THERE ARE SOME TREES LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD
18:25:18 BE RELOCATED AND TRANSPLANTED.
18:25:24 THEY ARE ACTUALLY EIGHT TREES, SEVEN PALMS AND A
18:25:25 MAGNOLIA.
18:25:27 NONE WILL BE REMOVED.
18:25:30 AND ALSO WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND
18:25:36 WE ARE LOOKING TO PUT 142 FEET OF SIDEWALK ON ERNA
18:25:44 DRIVE AND ALSO 126 FEET OF SIDEWALK ON DALLAS AVENUE.
18:25:51 RESPECTFULLY, I AM ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO THIS ZONING.
18:25:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:25:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
18:25:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
18:25:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:26:02 MISS LAMONT, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, BUT
18:26:08 MAYBE YOU CAN JUST TELL ME QUICKER THAN I CAN FIND IT.
18:26:11 THE -- IF YOU GOT THE APPROVAL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE
18:26:14 GOING TO KEEP ONE OF THE HOUSES, IS THAT CORRECT, THE
18:26:16 ONE TO THE LEFT?
18:26:16 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:26:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN THE ONE TO THE RIGHT, YOU
18:26:22 ARE GOING TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE.
18:26:26 HOW -- WHAT SORT OF SEPARATION WOULD YOU BE HAVING
18:26:28 BETWEEN THE TWO -- THE TWO HOMES?
18:26:32 IN OTHER WORDS, SOMETIMES WE GET THESE AND THE -- THE
18:26:35 LEFT SIDE, THE OLD HOUSE, IS ALREADY VERY, VERY CLOSE
18:26:39 TO THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE SPLIT AND
18:26:42 THEN IT SORT OF LOOKS AND FEELS KIND OF STRANGE.
18:26:46 WHAT IS YOUR SITUATION IN THAT REGARD?
18:26:52 >> WE HAVE SEVEN FEET ON EACH -- FROM EACH DWELLING TO
18:26:55 THE PROPERTY LINE SO A TOTAL OF 14 FEET BETWEEN
18:27:03 DWELLINGS.
18:27:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS CODE.
18:27:10 THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION OTHERWISE IT APPEARS THAT THE
18:27:14 WHOLE REASON THEIR HAVING TO DO THE PD IS BECAUSE YOU
18:27:17 ARE TWO FEET -- YOU ARE TWO FEET OFF OF THE REQUIRED 60
18:27:17 FEET.
18:27:21 YOU ARE AT 58 FEET?
18:27:22 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
18:27:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND STAFF, THAT IS YOUR
18:27:29 UNDERSTANDING?
18:27:31 >>ZANE HUSAIN: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
18:27:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, BOTH.
18:27:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND WHAT ELSE?
18:27:34 ALL RIGHT.
18:27:42 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY DOWNSTAIRS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
18:27:44 >> THIS IS JANE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
18:27:49 NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
18:27:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE EVERYBODY?
18:27:53 >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
18:27:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
18:27:56 MOVE TO CLOSE.
18:27:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
18:27:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
18:28:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR.
18:28:02 ANY OPPOSED?
18:28:07 MR. VIERA, DO YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 1.
18:28:11 >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENT FOR
18:28:21 FIRST READING OF 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE FROM RS-60 TO PD
18:28:24 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN
18:28:27 EFFECTIVE DATE.
18:28:30 I FIND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO
18:28:33 PROVIDE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
18:28:37 DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
18:28:39 AND CITY CODE.
18:28:40 >> SECOND.
18:28:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
18:28:47 SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
18:28:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE VOTE.
18:28:51 AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
18:28:58 ARE VERY SENSITIVE AND TICKLISH ABOUT THIS, QUOTE, LOT
18:29:03 SPLIT AND REQUIRED 60 FEET TO 58 FEET.
18:29:06 THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WAS DULY NOTICED AND ADVERTISED
18:29:13 WITH A SIGN OUT FRONT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HERE AND DON'T
18:29:16 BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM THEM IN WRITING.
18:29:20 AS I LOOK AROUND, THE OTHER CONCERN I NORMALLY WOULD
18:29:23 HAVE IN ADDITION TO NEIGHBORHOOD OBJECTION IS
18:29:23 PRECEDENT.
18:29:29 AS I LOOK AROUND IN THE SURROUNDING BLOCKS ON HER SIDE,
18:29:31 IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF
18:29:34 OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL LOT SPLITS ON THE NORTHERN
18:29:39 SEGMENT TOWARD THE SOUTH, THERE IS QUITE A FEW.
18:29:42 QUITE A FEW LARGER LOTS AND WE MIGHT BE SEEING THOSE
18:29:43 DOWN THE ROAD.
18:29:46 SO I GUESS WE WILL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
18:29:49 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
18:29:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
18:29:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
18:29:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
18:29:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
18:29:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
18:29:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
18:30:03 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CITRO BEING
18:30:04 ABSENT.
18:30:08 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION JUNE 3 AT 9:30 A.M.
18:30:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
18:30:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHE NEEDED TO MAKE CHANGES, WORK
18:30:15 WITH STAFF TO MAKE.
18:30:20 SHE IS AWARE OF THAT?
18:30:23 GUDES MR. MANASSE.
18:30:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SHE HAS A STAFF REPORT WITH THE
18:30:29 REVISION SHEET AND MICHELLE IS HERE TO MAKE THE
18:30:31 REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND SHE WILL
18:30:34 CONTACT ME.
18:30:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES, ITEM 2.
18:30:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, ITEM NUMBER 2 IS FILE
18:30:45 NO. REZ-21-04.
18:30:50 REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM 4456 AND 4467 WEST GANDY
18:30:54 BOULEVARD FROM CI TO PD MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
18:30:55 I WILL REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLEASE
18:30:57 RETURN TO ME AFTER.
18:31:01 >> JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
18:31:04 I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
18:31:08 FILE NO. REZ-21-04.
18:31:12 THERE IS A TRANSIT SPOT 400 FEET EAST OF THE SUBJECT
18:31:16 SITE AND IN EVACUATION ZONE A AND IN THE COASTAL HIGH
18:31:18 HAZARD AREA.
18:31:21 THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE.
18:31:24 RETENTION POND TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:31:27 TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A MULTIFAMILY
18:31:27 DEVELOPMENT.
18:31:29 TO THE SOUTH IS STRICT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND A
18:31:31 PARKING LOT.
18:31:33 THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES TO THE NORTH.
18:31:37 GANDY BOULEVARD IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH AND MANHATTAN
18:31:39 AVENUE IS LOCATED TO THE EAST.
18:31:47 THE SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED URBAN USED MIX 60.
18:31:50 TO THE NORTH COMMUNITY MIXED.
18:31:53 AND ORANGE IS RESIDENTIAL-10, THE SINGLE-FAMILY
18:31:54 DETACHED AREA.
18:31:57 THE BROWN COLOR IS THE RESIDENTIAL-35 THAT IS THE
18:32:00 MULTIFAMILY THAT I POINTED OUT EARLIER.
18:32:03 YOU CAN SEE THAT THE URBAN MIXED USE-60 PATTERN IS
18:32:05 PRESENT ALONG GANDY BOULEVARD AS WELL.
18:32:13 SO THE SUBJECT SITE IS PROPOSING THE MULTIFAMILY AS
18:32:18 RYAN STATED AND BE CONSIDERED FOR MAXIMUM OF 443
18:32:20 DWELLING UNITS.
18:32:23 UP TO 411 DWELLING UNITS WITH THE BONUS AND THE
18:32:28 APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 313 DWELLING UNITS BELOW THE
18:32:31 MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR THE LAND USE
18:32:32 DESIGNATION.
18:32:36 THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
18:32:41 AREA FOR A COMMITMENT TO MEET MITIGATION PAYMENTS WITH
18:32:43 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH
18:32:46 GENERAL NOTE NUMBER 5 ON THE SITE PLAN.
18:32:47 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THAT THE
18:32:51 ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH I AM SURE RYAN WILL
18:32:53 GO INTO MORE FOR HIS REPORT.
18:32:57 WE FOUND THAT THE ORIENTATION PROVIDED SENSITIVITY TO
18:33:00 THAT SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.
18:33:03 THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROVIDED SOME PEDESTRIAN ACCESS
18:33:06 AND SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS AS WELL FOR THE RESIDENTS OF
18:33:08 THIS PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
18:33:11 SO OVERALL, IT WAS -- IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
18:33:17 INTENSITY AND DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE LAND USE
18:33:22 DESIGNATION YOU ARE BANAL MIXED USE 60 AND COMPATIBLE
18:33:24 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND DEVELOPMENT
18:33:27 ANTICIPATED THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND
18:33:28 USE MAP.
18:33:31 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL BE AVAILABLE
18:33:32 FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
18:33:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:33:37 MR. MANASSE.
18:33:40 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
18:33:42 IF YOU MAY SHARE MY SCREEN.
18:33:45 AND SEE MY TITLE.
18:33:51 FILE NO. REZ-21-04 -- RYAN MANASSE WITH LAND
18:33:52 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
18:33:56 AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS REQUESTED TO REZONE FROM CI TO
18:33:59 PD FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
18:34:02 THE WAIVERS ON SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU.
18:34:03 SEVEN PROPOSED.
18:34:05 22-83.
18:34:08 THE FIRST ONE 15.
18:34:09 SECOND BEING 14 AND 7.
18:34:13 THESE WAIVERS ARE COMING FROM TWO PARTS, TRANSPORTATION
18:34:15 AS WELL AS NATURAL RESOURCES.
18:34:17 JUST TO POINT OUT A FEW OF THEM.
18:34:19 I KNOW THEY ARE ON SCREEN, AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN YOUR
18:34:22 STAFF REPORTS BUT A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED PARKING
18:34:23 SPACES.
18:34:29 ALSO THE -- TO ALLOW THE LOADING SPACE IN LIEU FOR
18:34:33 WAIVER NUMBER ONE, REDUCTION IN THE LOADING BERTHS, AND
18:34:37 RETAIN LESS THAN 40% OF EXISTING TREES AND THE TREE
18:34:40 TRUST FUND AND -- AND REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM GREEN
18:34:43 SPACE REQUIREMENT AND YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE THERE.
18:34:48 ALSO, THERE IS A REDUCTION REQUEST FOR THE BUFFER ALONG
18:34:49 OLD KELLER AVENUE.
18:34:53 WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PETITIONER AT 4465 AND 4467
18:34:59 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD TO REZONE PI TO PD TO CONSTRUCT
18:35:07 THE MULTIFAMILY 2452-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING.
18:35:11 LOCATED ONE LOT WEST OF SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE
18:35:13 INTERSECTION.
18:35:16 THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE
18:35:18 NORTH AND RS-60.
18:35:23 SOUTH BY CI, AND EAST BY COMMERCIAL USES IN THE PD AND
18:35:28 CI ZONING DISTRICT AND WEST BY OFFICE USES IN THE RO-1
18:35:31 AND RESIDENTIAL IN THE RM-24.
18:35:34 THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACKS NORTH, 80 FEET.
18:35:36 AND THERE IS -- I PUT A NOTE ON HERE.
18:35:39 THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISED IN OUR REVISION SHEET AS WELL
18:35:42 FEW TO THE PORTE COCHERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
18:35:46 PROPOSED STRUCTURE, GOING ALMOST ZERO TO THE PROPERTY
18:35:46 LINE TO THE NORTH.
18:35:50 THAT SETBACK WE ARE REQUESTING LABELED AT ZERO.
18:35:51 SOUTH, 10 FEET.
18:35:52 EAST, 5 FOOT.
18:35:54 AND WEST, 10 FEET.
18:35:58 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 60 FEET, FOUR STORIES
18:36:02 AND PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND 437 PARKING
18:36:05 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 394 ARE BEING PROVIDED WHICH IS
18:36:08 10% REDUCTION AND ASSOCIATED WAIVER THAT IS PRESENTED
18:36:10 IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL.
18:36:15 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SURFACE PARKING LOT WITH A
18:36:18 CIRCULAR DRIVE AND THREE ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS AT
18:36:21 THE SOUTH END OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:36:24 JENNIFER DID A GREAT JOB POINTING OUT THE DIRECTION OF
18:36:28 THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN RED AND THERE
18:36:31 ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE LOCAL OR NATIONAL
18:36:36 1,000-FOOT BUFFER WE TRY TO LOCATE WITHIN THIS AERIAL
18:36:38 MAP AND PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH.
18:36:41 TO THE EAST, THERE IS THAT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
18:36:45 TO THE WEST AS WELL AS THAT OFFICE AND RS-60 ZONING
18:36:48 DISTRICT WHERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE LOCATED.
18:36:52 THE SITE PLAN -- THE BUILDING OUTLINE WILL SHOW YOU
18:36:54 HERE TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
18:36:57 I AM TRYING TO ROLL MY CURSOR OVER IT.
18:37:02 HERE IS THAT CIRCULAR DRIVE THAT IS OUTLINED ON
18:37:07 OAKELLAR AND TO REFERENCE THE ZERO-FOOT SETBACK THE
18:37:10 PORTE COCHERE ON THE SITE PLAN WANT THAT SETBACK TO BE
18:37:13 REDUCED NICK OVER 36 INCHES NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT AS A
18:37:14 SETBACK.
18:37:20 THE OTHER ACCESS ON OAKELLAR AND THREE ACCESS POINTS TO
18:37:20 THE SOUTH.
18:37:25 AND HERE IS THE LARGE SURFACE PARKING LOT BEING
18:37:28 REQUIRED FOR -- PROVIDED FOR THE REQUIRED PARKING.
18:37:31 A BLOCK FORMATION BUILDING WITH A COURTYARD IN THE
18:37:35 MIDDLE AND LAP POOLS AND SUCH IN THE CENTER OF THE
18:37:38 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
18:37:41 THE ELEVATION PROVIDED ARE ALSO FRONT, BUT THEY ALSO
18:37:47 SHOW THE DIRECTIONS TO THE WEST, THE RIGHT END AND THE
18:37:48 LEFT END.
18:37:50 AND THEN JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
18:37:52 A LARGER SITE.
18:37:56 SO FORGIVE ME FOR USING THE AERIAL MORE.
18:37:58 IT IS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE LOCATION IS.
18:38:01 A LARGE STRIP CENTER WHERE THE SUBJECT SITE IS AND GOES
18:38:03 ACROSS TO THE WEST TO THE EAST.
18:38:06 HERE IS THAT RETENTION POND THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW ON
18:38:09 THE AERIAL, AND THIS STREET DIRECTLY TO THE EAST AND
18:38:13 THE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET THERE.
18:38:16 THE LEFT PICTURE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.
18:38:19 THAT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
18:38:21 CENTER IS THE COMMERCIAL AND PICTURE TO THE RIGHT IS
18:38:24 THE REAR OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE
18:38:28 DEMOLISHED IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
18:38:31 BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
18:38:37 COMPLIANCE STAFF FIND THE PETITION INCONSISTENT WITH
18:38:39 THE CITY OF TAMPA REGULATIONS AND LOOK FOR FINDINGS
18:38:42 FROM TRANSPORTATION FOR WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED SHOULD
18:38:44 IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
18:38:46 WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT, AS WELL AS THE
18:38:47 APPLICATION.
18:38:51 THERE ARE FURTHER -- SORRY, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO
18:38:53 THE SITE PLAN REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
18:38:57 OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
18:38:59 AS SUCH, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
18:39:04 MAY HAVE, AND THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION.
18:39:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
18:39:07 ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
18:39:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAVE A QUESTION.
18:39:11 TO TRANSPORTATION.
18:39:14 I SEE JONATHAN'S SMILING FACE.
18:39:15 >> YES, SIR.
18:39:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HEY, JONATHAN.
18:39:17 GOOD EVENING.
18:39:20 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: GOOD EVENING.
18:39:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT ACCESS TO
18:39:25 THIS PROPERTY?
18:39:28 IS IT 300 AND SOMETHING UNITS.
18:39:31 343, IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
18:39:36 313 -- 313 UNIT.
18:39:41 WHAT IS THE CURRENT ACCESS IN TERMS OF -- TO GANDY
18:39:46 AND/OR TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH AND
18:39:50 WHAT IS THE PROPOSED ACCESS.
18:39:53 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, CITY OF TAMPA,
18:39:55 TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING.
18:40:00 THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS ACCESS TO OAKELLAR AND GOES
18:40:02 INTO THAT ALLEY.
18:40:05 AND I GUESS IT HAS CROSS-ACCESS, YOU CAN GO OVER TO THE
18:40:06 GANDY, OF COURSE.
18:40:11 AND THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THEY ARE GOING TO ACCESS
18:40:18 OAKELLAR AND THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE ALLEY AS WELL
18:40:22 TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
18:40:25 OR ACTUALLY IT IS TO THE SOUTH, I SHOULD SAY -- NO, TO
18:40:26 THE EAST.
18:40:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO ALL --
18:40:30 >> ACCESS WELL TO THE SOUTH AS WELL.
18:40:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HAS THERE BEEN A TRANSPORTATION
18:40:39 STUDY DONE IN TERMS OF COMPARING THE -- IT LOOKS LIKE
18:40:43 THAT STRIP MALL HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN -- OR AT LEAST
18:40:45 PARTIALLY CLOSED DOWN FOR A WHILE.
18:40:49 HAS THERE BEEN A STUDY COMPARING THE EXISTING TRAFFIC
18:40:52 COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT GO THROUGH
18:40:55 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH?
18:40:55 >> YES.
18:40:58 THEY DID DO A COMPARISON.
18:41:02 NOW CONSIDERED A NET DECREASE IN OVERALL TRAFFIC THE
18:41:03 WAY WE LOOK AT IT.
18:41:07 WE LOOK AT IT BASED ON THE I.T.E., INTERNATIONAL
18:41:10 TRANSPORTATION OF ENGINEER TRIPS, SO THE EXISTING USE
18:41:15 OF THE STRIP CENTER TO THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY USE HAS
18:41:18 ABOUT 4,000 TRIPS PER DAY YES.
18:41:21 AND THAT IS A NET DECREASE.
18:41:25 THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND TRAFFIC MEMO, THE STATE IMPACT
18:41:29 REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND LESS TRAFFIC.
18:41:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE IS NO ACTUAL COUNTS OR
18:41:36 ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, RUBBER -- I GUESS THEY USED TO DO
18:41:38 THE RUBBER THING IN THE ROAD.
18:41:41 NO COUNTS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE EXISTING FLOW IS TO THE
18:41:44 NEIGHBORHOOD AS COMPARED TO WHAT THE PROPOSED FLOW
18:41:47 MIGHT BE?
18:41:51 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: NO, THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THAT
18:41:54 AND BASED ON ITE CALCULATIONS.
18:41:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE TRIP CALCULATIONS ARE BASED ON
18:41:59 THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT IS THERE, NOT NECESSARILY HOW
18:42:03 IT HAS BEEN USED IN RECENT YEARS OR NOT USED IN RECENT
18:42:03 YEARS.
18:42:05 JUST THE AMOUNT.
18:42:08 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THAT'S CORRECT.
18:42:11 I WILL BE ON STANDBY.
18:42:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE?
18:42:25 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
18:42:33 >> JOHN LUM, 2811 BAY POINTE CIRCLE, 33611.
18:42:37 I AM PUTTING ON THE ELMO A PICTURE OF WHAT THE SITE
18:42:39 LOOKED LIKE 25 YEARS AGO WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED
18:42:41 ON THIS SITE.
18:42:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN, SIR?
18:42:46 >> YES, I HAVE BEEN SWORN, SIR.
18:42:49 YOU CAN SEE -- ALL THE SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENTS WATCHED
18:42:54 THIS THING GET BUILT, AND 180,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL
18:42:57 WAS BUILT HERE.
18:43:03 KASH AND KARRY, THE ORIGINAL, THEY FAILED, WINN-DIXIE,
18:43:10 SONIC DRIVE-THRUS, ROLLER SKATES, YOU FIT GYMS ON AND
18:43:11 ON.
18:43:14 THE AMOUNT OF RETAILERS THAT HAVE BEEN BACK HERE AND
18:43:14 THEY ALL FAILED.
18:43:19 THE BREWERY THERE RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN STRUGGLING.
18:43:23 THE THREE RESIDENTS THERE ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE IS A
18:43:24 BEAUTY SHOP, A NAIL SALON.
18:43:29 THEY ARE PAYING ABOUT $10 A FOOT RENT WHICH IS WAY, WAY
18:43:29 BELOW MARKET.
18:43:34 AND WE HAVE A NICE MASSAGE PARLOR WITH HUMAN
18:43:37 TRAFFICKING AND WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THOSE THINGS
18:43:40 AND IT IS VERY SUCCESSFUL, OTHERWISE NOT A SUCCESSFUL
18:43:42 PLAZA.
18:43:45 THE CHURCH OF THE OLD WINN-DIXIE SITE AND NOT A RETAIL
18:43:46 USE EITHER.
18:43:49 WE FEEL THAT IT IS A GREAT ADAPTIVE REUSE DEVELOPMENT
18:43:49 OPPORTUNITY.
18:43:54 OUR GOAL HERE IS TO DO SOME MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE
18:43:59 HOUSING FOR OUR HOMETOWN HEROES.
18:44:02 I DON'T THINK THEY EVER SEEN A 66% PROJECT LIKE THIS
18:44:06 WHERE 66% OF THE -- OF THE APARTMENTS WILL BE EITHER
18:44:10 MICRO UNITS OR STUDIOS.
18:44:12 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND I SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE
18:44:16 THAT DEVELOPERS DON'T USUALLY DO THIS MUCH OF A -- YOU
18:44:18 KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING CENTRIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE
18:44:20 HERE TO DO THAT.
18:44:24 AND WE HOPE THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IN 100 YEARS
18:44:26 FROM NOW WE WILL PROBABLY BUILD IT OUT OF CONCRETE
18:44:29 BLOCK, THESE WILL STILL BE HERE FOR FOLKS WHO NO LONGER
18:44:32 CAN AFFORD HOUSING IN SOUTH TAMPA, FOLKS MAKING BETWEEN
18:44:38 $39,000, $45,000 A YEAR, TEACHERS, FIREMEN, FIRST
18:44:38 RESPONDERS.
18:44:41 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
18:44:47 >> HELLO, MY NAME IS BOB GREIS, JOHN LUM'S PARTNER, A
18:44:52 MEMBER OF THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY AND A PHILANTHROPIST.
18:44:55 MANY OF MY EMPLOYEES TELL ME THEY ARE MOVING TO
18:44:58 PINELLAS COUNTY BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT AFFORD TO LIVE
18:44:58 HERE.
18:45:01 THIS IS NOT ABOUT BUILDING ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX.
18:45:03 WE HAVE A DESPERATE NEED FOR NEW MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE
18:45:04 HOUSING.
18:45:08 CURRENTLY IF YOU HAVE $1200 A MONTH TO SPEND, YOU ARE
18:45:11 EITHER GOING TO LIVE IN 40-YEAR-OLD APARTMENTS OR YOU
18:45:14 ARE MOVING TO PINELLAS, LUTZ, OR BRADENTON.
18:45:18 MY PARTNER, JOHN, AND I ARE TRYING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE
18:45:22 MARKET RATE HOUSING FOR NURSES, TEACHERS, FIRST
18:45:25 RESPONDERS AND OTHERS SO THEY STAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
18:45:28 THIS IS A RETAIL SITE THAT HAS NEVER WORKED FOR 30
18:45:29 YEARS.
18:45:33 AND IF FORCED TO TELL THIS TO ANOTHER LARGE RETAIL
18:45:36 DEVELOPER TRAFFIC WILL BE TEN TIMES WORSE THAN AN
18:45:36 APARTMENT COMPLEX.
18:45:41 AS FOR MICHAEL BEARD OF 81 BREWING HAVE TRIED TO MAKE
18:45:45 US THE EVIL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS AND PUBLICIZED
18:45:48 PLEASE KNOW HE HAS NOT PAID RENT FOR ONE AND A HALF
18:45:50 YEARS, NOT A SINGLE DOLLAR.
18:45:51 THIS DOESN'T WORK AS A RETAIL COMPLEX.
18:45:55 I HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT MY PARTNER JOHN LUM AND I IN
18:45:59 BUILDING DESPERATELY NEEDED -- I WILL SAY IT AGAIN,
18:46:02 DESPERATELY NEEDED MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO WE
18:46:05 STOP LOSING TAMPA RESIDENTS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES.
18:46:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
18:46:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
18:46:13 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
18:46:16 THOSE WERE THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS INVOLVED IN THE
18:46:18 PROJECT.
18:46:20 IF YOU WILL CUE UP THE POWERPOINT AND WE WILL GO
18:46:33 THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
18:46:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE KNOW YOUR NAME BUT STATE YOUR NAME
18:46:37 FOR THE RECORD.
18:46:38 >> STEVE MICHELINI.
18:46:39 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
18:46:41 AND I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROJECT AT 4465
18:46:44 GANDY.
18:46:46 FILE NO. REZ-21-04.
18:46:48 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
18:46:50 IF YOU COULD BLOW UP THAT SOME.
18:46:53 THIS IS THE -- THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE THAT IS BEFORE
18:46:55 THE CITY COUNCIL.
18:46:58 AND I AM JUST WANTING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS
18:46:59 WITH YOU.
18:47:04 THERE IS A VERY LARGE ACCESS DRIVEWAY ON THE EAST END
18:47:10 OF THIS PROPERTY THAT GOES INTO OAKELLAR AND THAT
18:47:12 DRIVEWAY WILL BE REMOVED.
18:47:17 IT IS VERY, VERY WIDE AND I THINK IN SOME OF THE
18:47:19 DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THEY HAD REQUESTED THAT
18:47:24 THAT -- THAT WE CONSIDERED THAT TO BE REMOVED AND WE
18:47:27 CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE IF THE COUNCIL
18:47:29 MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
18:47:30 READING.
18:47:33 ALSO, IF YOU WILL NOTE, THEY ASK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL
18:47:36 LANDSCAPING ALONG OAKELLAR.
18:47:40 AND INSTEAD OF BEING TWO-INCH TREES, THEY WILL ALL BE
18:47:45 FOUR-INCH TREES THROUGHOUT THE SITE, WHICH WILL GIVE AN
18:47:48 IMMEDIATE HIGH VISIBILITY AND GREEN CORRIDOR.
18:47:52 ON REAR OF THE PROPERTY, I THINK YOU WILL SEE ON SOME
18:48:04 OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS HERE THAT -- JUST ONE SECOND HERE.
18:48:11 IF YOU GO TO THE OVERHEAD.
18:48:14 THIS IS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY FACES
18:48:19 OAKELLAR AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A CELL PHONE
18:48:27 TOWER BACK TO THE OVERHEAD.
18:48:31 AND THERE IS AN EXTREMELY LARGE GENERATOR THAT IS HERE
18:48:38 THAT WILL ALSO BE REMOVED.
18:48:42 THIS IS THE SECTION ALONG OAKELLAR CURRENTLY AND THIS
18:48:43 IS WHAT FACES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
18:48:46 YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS
18:48:50 GOING TO BE REMOVED.
18:48:53 THIS IS A VIEW FROM OAKELLAR TO THE BACK OF THE
18:48:54 BUILDING.
18:48:57 WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH TECO TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE
18:48:59 POWER LINES.
18:49:04 AND THERE IS A PLAN FOR THOSE TO BE BURIED ALONG THAT
18:49:05 SIDE.
18:49:11 THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT FACES AN
18:49:14 APARTMENT COMPLEX IN ANOTHER PARKING LOT AND AGAIN THE
18:49:22 PROPOSAL THROB REMOVE ALL OF THAT.
18:49:26 THIS IS THE AERIAL FORECAST OF THE ENTIRE FACILITY AS
18:49:28 BEING PLANNED FOR DEMOLITION.
18:49:32 AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OVER HERE, THIS
18:49:35 IS THE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES INTO OAKELLAR THAT IS BEING
18:49:42 PLANNED TO BE REMOVED.
18:49:48 THIS THE DRIVEWAY THAT CURRENTLY ACCESSES OAKELLAR.
18:49:50 YOU CAN SEE IT IS VERY WIDE.
18:49:57 AND THAT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.
18:50:05 WE CAN GO BACK TO THE POWERPOINT PLEASE.
18:50:10 NEXT -- NEXT SLIDE -- WELL, LET'S STAY ON HERE FOR A
18:50:10 SECOND.
18:50:16 WE ARE ACTUALLY INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE
18:50:21 THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE SITE.
18:50:23 WE ARE SHORT AND ASKING FOR A WAIVER, AND WE ARE
18:50:27 EXCEEDING WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
18:50:28 THIS SITE --
18:50:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MICHELINI, THE -- TECHNICAL -- WE
18:50:34 DON'T HAVE ANY SCREENS ON THE DAIS AT ALL.
18:50:35 THANK YOU, SIR.
18:50:38 YOU MAY CONTINUE, SIR.
18:50:41 >> EXCEPT FOR THE -- EXCEPT FOR THE ISLANDS, THERE IS
18:50:43 NO GREEN SPACE ON THIS PROPERTY.
18:50:45 RELATIVELY SMALL.
18:50:48 I THINK -- WE KEEP SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH.
18:50:50 ARE YOU SEEING THIS SCREEN?
18:50:52 >> YES, SIR, WE ARE SEEING IT.
18:50:56 >> WE ARE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE IMPERVIOUS AREA BY 15
18:51:01 -- 15%.
18:51:05 AS YOU WELL KNOW WE CAN NOT WAIVE TECHNICAL STANDARDS
18:51:08 REGARDING DRAINAGE AND MEET ALL OF THE STORMWATER AND
18:51:10 DRAINAGE CODE.
18:51:19 WE ALSO ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH THIS AS A RETROFIT FOR
18:51:19 CI ZONING.
18:51:23 IT HAS URBAN MIXED USE-60 DESIGNATION WHICH IS
18:51:26 EXTREMELY HIGH AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE EARLIER
18:51:30 DISCUSSION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT GANDY BEING A CORRIDOR
18:51:33 AND BEING ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND
18:51:35 SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED.
18:51:38 IT ALREADY HAS THE CORRECT ZONING.
18:51:42 OUR ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE
18:51:42 WAIVERS.
18:51:47 WE HAVE RECONFIGURED THE PARKING LOT SO WE NOW ARE AT
18:51:49 422 SPACES.
18:51:55 AND WILL REQUIRE A REDUCTION FROM 444 TO 422, WHICH
18:51:56 WILL BE 20 SPACES.
18:52:00 AND NOT THE LARGER NUMBER.
18:52:03 WE ARE PROPOSING A 313 UNITS.
18:52:08 IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE HERE -- NEXT SLIDE.
18:52:12 WE HAVE SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WATER AND SEWER.
18:52:15 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
18:52:20 THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT
18:52:23 WE ARE PLANNING TO DEMOLISH AS WELL AS THE BACK SIDE
18:52:29 THAT FRONTS ON OAKELLAR AND THE EAST -- AND THE WEST
18:52:30 SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
18:52:31 NEXT.
18:52:34 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALREADY CLASSIFIED AND IDENTIFIED
18:52:38 AS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR, AND AS I STARTED TO SAY
18:52:42 EARLIER, A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR AND CONSISTENT
18:52:45 WITH THE LAND USE PROVISIONS CONTAINED IN THE
18:52:49 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEY ARE OUTLINED FOR YOU.
18:52:52 THE TRANSFORMATION MAKING THE CORRIDORS INCLUDED A
18:52:59 BROADER MIX OF USES HAS BOTH HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL
18:53:05 AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR OPPORTUNITY AND DENSITY HOUSING.
18:53:08 HOUSING IS A CRITICAL NEED AND I THINK AS MR. GREIS AND
18:53:12 MR. LUM BOTH POINTED OUT, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME
18:53:17 WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE A LOWER PRICE POINT ON
18:53:21 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THIS IS WHAT IS DRIVING THIS
18:53:25 DENSITY UP ALTHOUGH STILL BELOW THE 50 UNITS PER ACRE
18:53:28 THAT WILL BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
18:53:32 60 UNITS PER ACRE WOULD REQUIRE A F.A.R. AND SPECIAL
18:53:34 AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
18:53:40 IF YOU LOOK AT LAND USE POLICY 6.1.5, DESIGN AND
18:53:44 DEVELOPMENT ALONG MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND USE PUBLIC
18:53:48 TRANSIT, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRANSIT MAXIMIZING A
18:53:48 POTENTIAL.
18:53:53 WE PLAN TO HAVE A BICYCLE RENTAL STAND ON-SITE AS WELL
18:53:57 AS A SCOOTER STAND ON-SITE AND A NEW CONCEPT WHICH IS
18:54:01 CALLED ZIP CAR, WHICH IS AN INSTANT CAR RENTAL FOR
18:54:07 LOCAL COMMUTING USE ON-SITE TO HELP MITIGATE THE
18:54:08 REDUCTION IN PARKING.
18:54:13 WE ALSO ARE EXPLORING THE USE THROUGH A LEASE AGREEMENT
18:54:17 FOR PURCHASE OF AN ADJACENT PARCEL WHICH IS ALREADY A
18:54:18 PARKING LOT.
18:54:21 BUT WE IS IT NOT WANT TO GET INTO THAT WITH OUR
18:54:24 PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT WOULD CHANGE OUR SITE PLAN AND
18:54:29 POTENTIALLY KICK US BACK INTO A COMPLETE NEW REVIEW.
18:54:33 WE BELIEVE WE HAVE MET THE CRITERIA REGARDING THIS
18:54:38 PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
18:54:40 WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION -- WE HAVE BEEN IF FULL
18:54:42 DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM REGARDING THIS.
18:54:47 THEIR OBJECTION AND FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY IS BASED
18:54:51 ON THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT WERE -- THAT WERE BEING
18:54:53 REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED; HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THAT WE
18:54:58 PRESENTED ENOUGH SUFFICIENT MITIGATING ALTERNATIVES TO
18:54:59 ACCOUNT FOR THOSE 22 SPACES.
18:55:03 AND, AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE TO SHOW THAT RECONFIGURATION
18:55:08 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SHOULD THE COUNCIL
18:55:10 CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
18:55:13 WE ALSO ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SIDEWALKS ALONG OAKELLAR
18:55:18 THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD NO SIDEWALKS, AND THEY WILL BE
18:55:22 BUILT ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE AND NOT
18:55:26 SEEKING WAIVERS OR IN LIEU FEES.
18:55:29 REMOVING 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND
18:55:32 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CODE, YOU WILL SEE BY RIGHT, THEY
18:55:36 COULD NOT ONLY GO TO OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF
18:55:39 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BUT THEY ALSO COULD INCREASE THAT
18:55:43 EVEN FURTHER BECAUSE THE F.A.R. THERE WITHOUT AN
18:55:44 AGREEMENT IS 3.25.
18:55:49 SO THAT YIELDS IN A -- IT IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT,
18:55:55 SOMETHING LIKE 900,000 -- 900 -- YEAH, 900,000 SQUARE
18:55:59 FEET OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
18:56:04 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, ON THE POWERPOINT.
18:56:08 WE DID -- WE DID A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AS MR. DINGFELDER
18:56:13 REQUESTED, AND THIS BASED ON THE ITE TRIP GENERATION
18:56:17 MANUAL WHICH ASSUMES THAT THE 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF
18:56:18 COMMERCIAL WILL BE OCCUPIED.
18:56:24 AND IT ALSO ASSUMES THAT THE APARTMENT -- THE PROPOSED
18:56:29 APARTMENTS AT 313 WOULD BE FULLY OCCUPIED.
18:56:31 YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN EXISTING
18:56:38 USE THAT IS PERMITTED AND ALLOWED, 5934 VEHICLES AND
18:56:43 TRIPS WE ARE DAY VERSUS 1682 TRIPS PER DAY, WHICH IS
18:56:46 ABOUT THREE AND A HALF TIMES MORE THAN THE -- THAN THE
18:56:52 PROPOSED USE IS LESS THAN THE EXISTING USE IS ALLOWED.
18:56:54 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
18:56:59 THIS SHOWS YOU THE TRANSIT CORRIDOR'S EVACUATION MAP.
18:57:03 WE HAVE TALKED TO BOTH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND TAMPA
18:57:05 POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE EVACUATION PLANS.
18:57:09 THOSE EVACUATION PLANS START OFF FIVE DAYS IN ADVANCE,
18:57:13 NOT ONE OR TWO DAYS IN ADVANCE AND THEY PROGRESSIVELY
18:57:17 GET STRONGER IN TERMS OF THEIR ENCOURAGEMENT TO LIFE IF
18:57:20 THAT IS THE CHOICE OF THE -- OF THE RESIDENTS THERE.
18:57:24 AND THIS WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS ALONG
18:57:32 OAKELLAR, CORTEZ, AND HESPERIDES AS THIS APARTMENT AS
18:57:33 PROPOSED.
18:57:37 THOSE CRITERIA INVOLVED, THE FIRST IS AN ENUNCIATION
18:57:40 WITH LOUDSPEAKERS UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND ALSO
18:57:45 MULTIMEDIA APPROACHES, LISTINGS AND SOCIAL MEDIA
18:57:48 ENCOURAGING PEOPLE IF THEY LIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS TO
18:57:49 CONSIDER EVACUATION.
18:57:53 AS IT GETS CLOSER TO THE EVENT, IF THERE IS ONE, ON THE
18:57:57 FOURTH DAY OUT, IT GETS MORE INTENSIVE AND ON THE THIRD
18:58:01 DAY AND THE SECOND DAY AND THE -- AS -- IF THERE IS AN
18:58:05 IMMEDIATE EVENT THAT IS ABOUT TO OCCUR, IT GETS EVEN
18:58:06 MORE STRINGENT.
18:58:10 THAT INCLUDES TRANSPORTATION FOR ANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS
18:58:12 IN THE EVENT THEY CAN'T OR WON'T DRIVE THEIR OWN
18:58:13 VEHICLES.
18:58:16 IT INCLUDES TRANSPORTATION TO SHELTERS --
18:58:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MUCH MORE TIME YOU NEED, MR.
18:58:21 MICHELINI?
18:58:24 >> JUST A COUPLE MORE MINUTES WOULD BE GOOD, I THINK.
18:58:26 I THINK WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT
18:58:31 I WANTED TO COVER THE EVACUATION PLAN THAT EVERYONE IS
18:58:33 COVERED AND THE LAST THING THAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE
18:58:37 POLICE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOES DOOR TO DOOR AND
18:58:40 INDICATES TO INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY HAVE A WAY OUT IF
18:58:42 THEY WANT ONE.
18:58:43 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
18:58:50 THIS SHOWS THE CAPACITY OF THE EVACUATION SHELTERS.
18:58:57 AND BASICALLY THAT HILLSBOROUGH HAS 52,316 VACANCIES OR
18:58:59 SPACES FOR INDIVIDUALS.
18:59:01 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
18:59:04 THIS IS THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND JOHN WENT OVER IT.
18:59:09 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
18:59:12 WE ARE REMOVING THE CELL TOWER.
18:59:14 REMOVING THE GENERATOR.
18:59:17 REMOVING THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE DIDN'T WANT THE MAIN
18:59:22 BUILDING TO FACE OAKELLAR AND REMOVING THE BALCONIES
18:59:25 THAT FACE OAKELLAR.
18:59:29 AND LOOKING AT OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS TO OAKELLAR AND
18:59:36 THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY CROSSWALKS, PUBLIC
18:59:37 TRANSPORTATION.
18:59:43 AND AS THE STAFF MENTIONED ADEQUATE RETAIL AND PUBLIC
18:59:46 TRANSPORTATION WITHIN LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE.
18:59:47 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
18:59:51 THIS IS AN OVERVIEW SHOWING YOU ALL OF THE RETAIL
18:59:57 AVAILABLE WITHIN THE AREA AND ALL OF THAT IS WITHIN
19:00:05 LESS OF A MILE, BICYCLE STATIONS, COOLER STATIONS AND
19:00:14 RENTAL CAR.
19:00:16 THE FAILED RETAIL CENTER.
19:00:18 NEXT, ARE THE APARTMENTS.
19:00:21 THIS IS WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE BY RIGHT.
19:00:24 IT IS MASSIVE AND THIS IS NOT WITH -- WHAT WE ARE WANT
19:00:25 CAN TO DO.
19:00:26 NEXT SLIDE.
19:00:29 THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THE LAST SLIDE SHOWING
19:00:33 YOU THE APARTMENTS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING AT 313 UNITS,
19:00:38 FOUR STORIES AND WITH THE APPROPRIATE AMENITIES AND THE
19:00:41 CHANGES THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE MAY BE ABLE --
19:00:44 TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AS WELL AS
19:00:49 THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE CITY'S REQUEST FOR US
19:00:50 TO MAKE CHANGES.
19:00:53 SO ANYWAY, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
19:00:56 ASSISTANCE IN MAKING THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.
19:01:00 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
19:01:05 SHOULD WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
19:01:08 >> MR. CHAIR.
19:01:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:01:15 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. GREIS MENTIONED A TENANT,
19:01:20 TWO-THIRDS OR THREE-QUARTERS OF THE E-MAILS HAVE
19:01:23 CONCERN OF THE TENANT MOVING OUT.
19:01:26 UNLESS LEGAL TELLS US OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK CITY
19:01:28 COUNCIL HAS ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.
19:01:31 BUT CAN YOU TELL US WHAT -- WHAT ARE THE -- WHAT --
19:01:34 WHAT -- FROM YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS AVAILABLE NOW?
19:01:39 WHAT COULD YOU TO DO THE PROPERTY NOW WITH THE
19:01:44 ENCOURAGEMENT ENTITLES THAT YOU HAVE, ARE YOU LIKELY TO
19:01:45 KEEP THAT BUILDING AT ALL.
19:01:47 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN.
19:01:53 IS IT LIKELY THAT BUILDING WILL STAY IF THIS DOESN'T GO
19:01:54 THROUGH TONIGHT.
19:01:57 WHAT WOULD YOU BE ENTITLED TO DO TODAY.
19:01:59 >> IT IS NOT LIKELY THAT THE BUILDING WILL STAY.
19:02:02 I HAVE DISCUSSED THE ISSUE REGARDING THE TENANT WITH
19:02:05 THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND IT IS A CIVIL MATTER
19:02:08 BETWEEN THAT TENANT AND THE LANDLORD.
19:02:13 AND SO WE ARE REALLY NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.
19:02:18 BUT I THINK THE NUMBER IS 970,000 SQUARE FEET BY
19:02:23 ENTITLEMENT WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND MORE
19:02:26 INTENSIVE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
19:02:29 AND IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND MORE INTENSIVE THAN
19:02:33 WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
19:02:35 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
19:02:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
19:02:38 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:02:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:02:45 COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MR. MICHELINI.
19:02:50 JUST FOR CLARITY AND CLARIFICATION, YOU DESCRIBED MR.
19:02:54 LUM AND MR. GREIS AS THE OWNERS.
19:02:55 THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
19:02:57 ARE THEY CURRENTLY THE OWNERS.
19:03:01 >> MR. GREIS IS THE OWNER AND MR. LUM AND MR. GREIS ARE
19:03:03 PARTNERS ON THE PROJECT.
19:03:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THEY ARE NOT UNDER CONTRACT.
19:03:08 THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE OWNERS.
19:03:11 >> MR. GREIS IS THE ABSOLUTE OWNER, THAT'S CORRECT.
19:03:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
19:03:16 >> IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, FOR CLARIFICATION
19:03:20 ON THE APPLICATION IT INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER
19:03:23 IS GF FINANCE LLC.
19:03:26 RATHER THAN INDIVIDUALS ARE THE OWNER PERHAPS THEY ARE
19:03:28 REPRESENTING THE OWNER.
19:03:33 >> THAT COMPANY IS -- MR. GREIS IS THE PRINCIPAL IN
19:03:34 THAT COMPANY.
19:03:36 HE CAN --
19:03:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
19:03:42 IS ON THE RIGHT PAGE WHEN WE SAY THINGS.
19:03:45 WITH REGARDS TO MR. LUM STARTED OUT -- AND MR. GREIS
19:03:50 START AND YOU WERE THE THIRD TO TALK ABOUT MARKET RATE,
19:03:52 AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE -- THE
19:03:56 PUBLICATION THAT YOU PROVIDED US TO, CAMEO, IT ALSO
19:04:01 SPEAKS TO MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
19:04:04 AND THEY SPOKE TO HOUSING, TEACHERS AND THIS SORT OF
19:04:05 THING.
19:04:06 WHICH I THINK IS A WONDERFUL THING.
19:04:11 IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE SITE PLAN OR CONDITIONS THAT
19:04:15 SPEAK TO THE -- THE AMOUNT OF RENT THAT IS GOING TO BE
19:04:18 CHARGED OR EVEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE INDIVIDUAL
19:04:19 UNITS?
19:04:22 I BROUGHT THE WRONG GLASSES TODAY SO I AM HAVING
19:04:25 TROUBLE READING THE FINE PRINT ON THE SITE PLAN.
19:04:27 AND THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING THE QUESTION.
19:04:28 FIRST TO YOU, STEVE.
19:04:34 AND THEN I WILL AS THAT -- THAT IS A CONDITION THAT
19:04:40 WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE END WHEN THE PROJECT
19:04:41 WAS FINALLY BUILT.
19:04:45 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.
19:04:50 BUT WE DID OUTLINE THE NUMBER OF UNITS PER CATEGORY.
19:04:52 AND THAT IS ON THE SITE PLAN.
19:04:54 I CAN RUN THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
19:04:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH.
19:04:59 AND TELL ME WHERE ON-SITE -- I WAS HAVING SOME TROUBLE
19:05:03 READING -- READING THE FINE PRINT.
19:05:07 >> IT SAYS 111 MICROUNITS --
19:05:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE IS THAT ON THE SITE PLAN?
19:05:12 >> RESIDENTIAL AND VISITOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
19:05:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: COUNCIL, RYAN MANASSE, IF I MAY.
19:05:17 THANK YOU, CHAIR.
19:05:20 SORRY TO INTERRUPT AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR -- I HEARD
19:05:24 111 AND I HAVE SCOOT IT PLAN ZOOMED IN.
19:05:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IF YOU DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO
19:05:29 THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER UNDER GREEN SPACE CALCULATION
19:05:32 -- NOT GREEN SPACE CALCULATION BUT RESIDENT AND VISITOR
19:05:35 PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS WHAT MR. MICHELINI IS GOING TO
19:05:38 READ OFF, JUST FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE LOOKED AT
19:05:42 IT -- A PARKING REQUIREMENT THERE IS INDICATED FOR
19:05:45 DIFFERENT KINDS OF DWELLING UNITS.
19:05:50 MR. MICHELINI STATED 313 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, 103 BEING
19:05:54 MICRO, 09 APPROXIMATING STUDIO, 1212 BEING ONE TO
19:05:58 TWO-BEDROOM UNITS AND THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE SITE
19:06:01 PLAN FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE STAFF SIDE.
19:06:04 TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT RENT, I DON'T BELIEVE
19:06:06 THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE SITE PLAN.
19:06:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
19:06:10 I WAS ALSO A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IT WAS REFERRED
19:06:14 TO, STEVE, AS "MARKET RATE" AND THEN "AFFORDABLE
19:06:15 HOUSING."
19:06:19 AND MARKET RATE IS WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR AND
19:06:23 AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAVE OTHER DEFINITIONS DEPENDING IF
19:06:26 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL STATUTES OR STATE
19:06:28 STATUTES, WHATEVER.
19:06:30 DID WE LOSE MR. MICHELINI?
19:06:33 >> WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ON THAT
19:06:37 BECAUSE THE COST AND THE EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE --
19:06:41 OF THE PROJECT ARE -- OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE VARIABLES
19:06:44 THAT EFFECT WHAT THE RENTAL RATES WOULD BE.
19:06:46 THE GOAL AND THE OBJECTIVE WAS AND WE HAVE BEEN IN
19:06:53 TOUCH WITH THE VARIOUS UNIONS REGARDING IN, BUT THE
19:06:57 GOAL WAS TO GIVE PREFERENCE TO FIRST RESPONDERS AND
19:07:00 THOSE THAT NEEDED HOUSING BECAUSE THE HOUSING CRISIS
19:07:07 BASICALLY IS -- IS SO -- SO HIGH THAT THE AFFORDABILITY
19:07:11 OF THAT WAS -- WAS ALSO CAUSING SOME ISSUES.
19:07:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO --
19:07:16 >> WE DON'T --
19:07:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET RYAN TO FIRM UP ON THIS.
19:07:24 IN THE BOTTOM, RYAN, WHEN IT TALKS TO PARKING, 103
19:07:26 MICRO UNITS, 90 STUDIO UNITS.
19:07:28 THAT IS GOOD, STEVE.
19:07:30 I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE PROVIDING SOME SMALLER UNITS
19:07:34 WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE LESS -- LESS EXPENSIVE AND MORE
19:07:35 AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.
19:07:36 I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING.
19:07:40 BUT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WHEN -- HOW BINDING,
19:07:44 RYAN -- RYAN MANASSE, HOW BINDING IS THAT OR CATE,
19:07:50 EITHER ONE OF YOU, YOU KNOW, CAN -- YOU KNOW, AFTER --
19:07:54 AFTER THE PD IS APPROVED, CAN THEY -- THIS IS JUST
19:07:55 ABOUT PARKING.
19:07:58 SO COULD THEY ADD MORE PARKING AND IGNORE -- IGNORE
19:08:03 THIS 103 MICRO UNITS AND 90 STUDIO UNITS.
19:08:09 I GUESS THAT IS MORE OF A "CATE" QUESTION.
19:08:11 >> I WAS THINKING MORE OF A RYAN QUESTION.
19:08:15 >>RYAN MANASSE: I CAN START OFF AND THEN CATE.
19:08:19 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU ARE CORRECT.
19:08:21 AS FAR AS THE PARKING THEY CAN'T INCREASE THE PARKING.
19:08:24 ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS A
19:08:26 REQUIREMENT OR CODE, IF YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO COME
19:08:29 IN FOR A SUBSTANTIAL DEVIATION, THERE IS A REVIEW
19:08:33 PROCESS AND IT IS A MINIMAL FACTOR THAT YOU CAN ADJUST.
19:08:37 SOME OF THEM BEING YOU CAN'T ADJUST AT ALL USES, MEANS
19:08:38 OF EGRESS AND TOUCH.
19:08:41 AS FAR AS THE PARKING, IT CAN'T GO UP TOO MUCH OR DOWN
19:08:44 TOO MUCH WITHOUT TRIGGERING A SUBSTANTIAL DEVIATION
19:08:47 FROM A SITE PLAN THAT IS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
19:08:51 AS FAR AS THE USE ON THE PROPERTY AND CATE, MAYBE I CAN
19:08:54 HAVE YOU CONFIRM, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
19:08:56 AS FAR AS IT IS LAID OUT FOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IF
19:08:59 THEY ARE MEETING THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT, THAT PD
19:09:01 WILL BE APPROVED AS IS.
19:09:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MAYBE I CAN -- MAYBE I CAN HELP
19:09:05 A LITTLE BIT.
19:09:07 STEVE MICHELINI, SINCE YOU ARE -- SINCE YOU ARE
19:09:11 COMMITTING TO IT HERE AT THE BOTTOM UNDER THE PARKING
19:09:15 REQUIREMENTS, BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, WOULD
19:09:19 -- WOULD YOUR SAME CLIENTS BE WILLING TO COMMIT THAT
19:09:22 THIS IS THE ACTUAL NUMBER -- YOU KNOW, TYPE AND NUMBER
19:09:27 OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE BUILT IF AND WHEN THIS -- YOU
19:09:29 KNOW -- YOU HEAR WHERE I AM COMING FROM, STEVE.
19:09:33 I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO PLAY ANY GAMES ABOUT PARKING
19:09:36 SPACES AND THEN BACKING OFF ON THE TYPE OF UNITS.
19:09:39 >> NO, SIR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF DOING THAT
19:09:41 AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM PUTTING THAT IN THERE AS
19:09:43 THE DISTRIBUTION THAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
19:09:48 AND TAKING IT -- WE WOULD -- WE WOULD DUPLICATE IT IN
19:09:51 ANOTHER PORTION AND SAY THE HOUSING DISTRIBUTION WILL
19:09:53 BE THIS IN ADDITION TO THE --
19:09:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN WOULD YOU BE MORE BOUND TO
19:09:57 DOING IT.
19:09:59 AND THEN MY OTHER -- MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
19:10:05 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR -- FOR YOUR INDULGENCE IS, YOU
19:10:09 MENTIONED SOMETHING OF MODIFYING THE OAKELLAR ACCESS
19:10:10 POINT.
19:10:15 ARE YOU ELIMINATING THE ACCESS TO GO BACK INTO THE
19:10:15 NEIGHBORHOOD?
19:10:18 BECAUSE I KNOW IF I SURE LIVED UP INTO THAT
19:10:20 NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PROJECT ISOLATED
19:10:24 TO GO IN AND OUT ONLY FROM GANDY AND NOT IN AND OUT
19:10:26 THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:10:28 >> I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE AND I AM GOING TO GIVE IT TO
19:10:31 YOU AGAIN.
19:10:36 THE PHOTOGRAPH SHOW THE DRIVEWAY TO THE EAST THAT IS
19:10:40 BEING REMOVED.
19:10:50 WHERE DID IT GO HERE?
19:10:56 MIGHT BE EASIER TO SEE ON THE OVERHEAD DINGFELDER PULL
19:11:00 THE MIC TO YOU, STEVE.
19:11:02 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
19:11:03 THIS OVERHEAD, CAN YOU SEE IT?
19:11:07 THIS IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY HERE TO THE EAST.
19:11:09 AND IT IS A DOUBLE DRIVEWAY.
19:11:11 IT IS VERY, VERY WIDE.
19:11:14 THAT DRIVEWAY IS BEING ELIMINATED.
19:11:21 AND THEN THE NEXT DRIVEWAY IS DOWN -- DOWN HERE.
19:11:30 THIS ONE IS ON THE SITE PLAN THAT I SHOWED YOU.
19:11:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY NOT BUILD THIS WONDERFUL
19:11:36 PROJECT AND INGRESS, EGRESS FROM GANDY AND NOT THROUGH
19:11:37 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:11:41 I READ SOME OF THE LETTERS OF RECORD THAT MADE
19:11:44 REFERENCE OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:11:49 AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT PLAZA.
19:11:53 ON ONE HAND YOU SAY THE PLAZA HAS BEEN A COMPLETE
19:11:55 FAILURE AND YOU ARE USING THEIR TRAFFIC NUMBERS LIKES
19:12:01 IT IS MAXED OUT AND THE GREATEST EVER AND IN REALITY IT
19:12:03 HAS BEEN A FAILURE AND NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT
19:12:05 NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THIS PLAZA.
19:12:17 WHY NOT BLOCK IT OFF AND GO IN AND OUT THROUGH GANDY?
19:12:20 >> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
19:12:23 I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER BACK TO JOHN.
19:12:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM SURE WE WILL HEAR FROM THE
19:12:27 PUBLIC AND IN THE MEANTIME YOU GUYS CAN PONDER THAT
19:12:34 QUESTION.
19:12:37 >>RYAN MANASSE: I AM SORRY, CHAIR, BECAUSE IT KIND OF
19:12:40 COMES FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTION.
19:12:42 THERE WAS SOME ON MR. MICHELINI'S PRESENTATION ABOUT
19:12:45 SOME ADDITIONS AND SUBTRACTIONS FROM THE SITE PLAN THAT
19:12:49 WAS SUBMITTED.
19:12:51 AND WE CAN TAKE IT ON THE END AND WANTED SOME
19:12:57 CLARIFICATION NOW BECAUSE REMOVING EGRESS.
19:13:01 AND ON THE SITE PLAN I AM LOOKING AT, THREE ACCESS
19:13:04 POINTS ON OAKELLAR AND MAKING THAT CLEAR FROM THE SITE
19:13:09 PLAN I REVIEWED AND MY STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE CIRCULAR
19:13:12 DRIVE WHICH CONTAIN TWO ACCESS POINTS ON OAKELLAR AND
19:13:15 THEN THE ONE TO THE WEST WHICH IS THE MAIN ACCESS POINT
19:13:19 IT APPEARS FOR THE PARKING LOT WITH THE THREE TO THE
19:13:23 SOUTH AS JONATHAN STATED CROSS-ACCESS POINTS.
19:13:24 SORRY, CHAIR.
19:13:27 WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT
19:13:31 AND INDULGE US AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE GO TO
19:13:35 FINAL COMMENTS, WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
19:13:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, DO YOU WANT TO
19:13:39 INFORMATION NOW?
19:13:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, WE CAN DO IT AFTER PUBLIC
19:13:44 COMMENT.
19:13:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE?
19:13:46 MR. MICHELINI.
19:13:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
19:13:51 I AM CONFUSED ON THE PROJECT.
19:13:56 I HEAR A LOT OF WORDS BUT I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION
19:13:58 WHAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE.
19:14:02 I HEAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MARKET RATE AND HAIRED
19:14:08 MICRO -- WHAT IS THE PROJECT?
19:14:11 >> START WITH THE MICRO UNITS.
19:14:14 THE SMALLER UNITS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO BE MORE
19:14:15 AFFORDABLE.
19:14:17 THERE ARE OTHER UNITS.
19:14:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T SEE THEM ON THE SCREEN.
19:14:20 THANK YOU, SIR.
19:14:20 CONTINUE.
19:14:22 >> YOU WANT ME TO START OVER?
19:14:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, YOU CAN.
19:14:27 >> MICRO UNITS ARE THE SMALLER -- THEY ARE SMALLER THAN
19:14:32 AN EFFICIENCY, BUT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE AFFORDABLE.
19:14:36 THERE ARE OTHER UNITS THAT ARE LARGER THAN THAT THAT
19:14:38 ARE MARKET RATE.
19:14:43 THE ONE BEDROOM, THE TWO BEDROOMS AND THE EFFICIENCIES.
19:14:46 THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE MICROS.
19:14:50 SO YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS -- ACTUALLY FOUR IF
19:14:55 YOU INCLUDE THE TWO BEDROOMS OF -- OF UNIT COUNTS, BUT
19:14:59 THE PREDOMINANT NUMBER OF COUNT -- ROOM COUNT IS IN THE
19:15:05 MICRO UNITS.
19:15:09 THAT -- SO ANYWAY, THAT IS THE WAY THEY ARE
19:15:10 DISTRIBUTED.
19:15:13 YOU HAVE 96 STUDIOS WHICH ARE EFFICIENCIES AND THEN YOU
19:15:18 HAVE THE 103 WHICH ARE MICROS WHICH ARE THE PREDOMINANT
19:15:20 NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS.
19:15:24 AND THEN YOU HAVE THE -- THE ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS WHICH
19:15:26 ARE ABOUT 100 UNITS.
19:15:29 SO YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE LEVEL OF -- OF
19:15:38 TYPE OF -- OF APARTMENT THAT IS BEING PROVIDED.
19:15:40 DID THAT -- I DID ANSWER THAT.
19:15:42 WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH?
19:15:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GET YOU ARE SAYING FOUR DIFFERENT
19:15:47 LEVELS -- TYPES OF HOUSING IN THERE, BUT I GUESS I AM
19:15:49 LOOKING AT -- YOU KEPT SAYING "MARKET."
19:15:53 I GET CONFUSED WITH THE FOUR LEVELS OF MARKET.
19:15:56 YOU SAID "AFFORDABLE HOUSING."
19:16:00 >> THE MARKET PROVISION ONLY APPLIED TO ONE COMPONENT
19:16:05 OF THE DOMINANT NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE WHOLE PROJECT.
19:16:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:16:11 I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
19:16:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR
19:16:16 CONVERSATION ALONG COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
19:16:19 YOU TALK OF MARKET RATE, EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT AND I
19:16:21 CAN TELL YOU BY MY EXPERIENCE IN SEEING HOMES IN
19:16:24 CERTAIN PART OF TOWN AND I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION
19:16:27 WHERE THAT THEY ARE DIVIDED INTO TWO TO THREE
19:16:29 APARTMENTS, FOUR APARTMENTS AND ONE HOUSE.
19:16:32 SOMETIMES THEY GET A CARPORT AND THEY CLOSE THE CARPORT
19:16:38 AND CHARGING ANYWHERE FROM $600 TODAY $800 FOR CARPORT
19:16:42 9 TO 10 FEET TO 16 FEET AND MAKE A LITTLE SHOWER, A
19:16:47 LITTLE STOVE, DANGEROUS TO LIVE THAT WAY.
19:16:50 AND IT'S -- IT'S HARD TO SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE
19:16:52 STRUGGLING WITH.
19:16:55 AND I SEE WHAT THEY CALL IT MARKET RATE OR AFFORDABLE
19:16:58 HOUSING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
19:17:01 THE NAME IS IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, YOU CAN MOVE.
19:17:04 IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT, YOU CAN'T STAY.
19:17:07 I DON'T CARE EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, YBOR
19:17:09 CITY OR NEW.
19:17:12 THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN SOCIETY THAT NO MATTER IF YOU
19:17:16 ARE MAKING $15 AN HOUR, AT THE END OF THE MONTH, IF YOU
19:17:18 HAVE A FAMILY, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT.
19:17:20 TWO OF YOU WORKING THE FAMILY TO GET BY.
19:17:24 AND IT IS SAD TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S HOW I VIEW IT.
19:17:26 AND I AM NOT TAKING A STEP FORWARD OR BACKWARDS.
19:17:30 I AM JUST SAYING THE STATE OF WHAT I SEE FROM MY TWO
19:17:34 EYE OR ONE EYE THAT WORKS ANYWAY TO SEE HOW IT IS
19:17:34 GOING.
19:17:38 WE HAVE A PROBLEM NOT ONLY THIS IN CITY BUT IN THE
19:17:43 WHOLE COUNTRY OF AFFORD -- AFFORDABILITY ON MANY THING
19:17:46 AND THE MAIN THING IS YOUR DWELLING, TO GET FROM POINT
19:17:49 A AND POINT B.
19:17:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T WE LISTEN --
19:17:55 >> IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY REAL QUICK.
19:17:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SAY THAT AGAIN --
19:17:58 >> HI, JOHN LUM HERE.
19:18:03 WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T USE THE WORD AFFORDABLE.
19:18:03 ATTAINABLE.
19:18:06 AFFORDABLE IS SUCH A BUZZWORD.
19:18:09 WHEN THE MAYOR EVEN SAID WE NEED MARKET RATE
19:18:12 DEVELOPMENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING THAT ARE NOT
19:18:16 GOVERNMENT-SUBSIDIZED A THAT IS -- THE ONLY SMALL AND
19:18:21 AFFORDABLE-PRICED JUNK RATE, RENT RATE APARTMENTS HAVE
19:18:23 TO BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
19:18:26 WHEN SEA SAY MARKET RATE, THE MARKET WILL DICTATE HOW
19:18:30 MUCH PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR 450-SQUARE-FOOT TINY HOUSE IN
19:18:31 THE SKY.
19:18:37 AND AS MY PARTNER SAID, PEOPLE UNDER $1200 A MONTH HAVE
19:18:38 TO LEAVE THIS AREA.
19:18:41 THEY HAVE TO MOVE TO ST. PETE OR GO UP NORTH.
19:18:43 THERE IS NO PLACES FOR THEM TO LIVE.
19:18:46 AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE SOMEWHERE FOR FOLKS
19:18:49 TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE URBAN CORE HERE BECAUSE THE
19:18:52 LAND DOWNTOWN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND
19:18:59 YOU GOT TO CHARGE $2000, $1800 A MONTH FOR RENT
19:19:01 EVERYWHERE AND I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES THINGS.
19:19:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THOUGHT FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SIR.
19:19:10 GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 20 PEOPLE TO SPEAK US
19:19:11 TO THIS EVENING.
19:19:21 HOW MANY DO WE HAVE REMOTELY, MADAM CLERK?
19:19:24 >>CLERK: WE HAD 21 SPEAKERS.
19:19:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 21 SPEAKERS.
19:19:32 ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, THAT IS GOING TO BE A MINUTE SO
19:19:35 I WOULD ASK WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK LITTLE
19:19:39 RECESS BECAUSE WE WILL BE SITTING FOR A WHILE.
19:19:41 >> HOW MANY PEOPLE IN PERSON?
19:19:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 20 AND 20.
19:19:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 20 AND 20.
19:33:25 SO FIVE MINUTES -- TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS, GENTLEMEN
19:33:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
19:33:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
19:33:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
19:33:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
19:33:35 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
19:33:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
19:33:42 GO WITH IN-PERSON ON SECOND FLOOR.
19:33:44 >> THIS IS JAYNE NMADU.
19:33:47 THERE ARE TEN PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
19:33:52 THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
19:33:53 >> MR. CHAIR.
19:33:56 >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:33:58 >> SORRY -- I WANT TO MAKE THE CORRECTION.
19:34:01 LOOKING AT THE PARKING CALCULATIONS ON THE PROVIDED
19:34:01 SITE PLAN.
19:34:07 I WANT TO SHOW ON THE RECORD 345 RESIDENTIAL UNITS NOT
19:34:08 313.
19:34:11 JUST BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT SO COUNCIL IS
19:34:14 AWARE OF THAT A DISCREPANCY IN THE PARKING
19:34:17 CALCULATIONS.
19:34:26 CALCULATIONS BEING PROVIDED ARE FOR 305 DWELLING
19:34:26 UNITS.
19:34:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. MANASSE.
19:34:31 GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
19:34:36 >> I CAN'T TELL IF YOU CAN SEE ME.
19:34:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.
19:34:45 >> PAM ELKINGTON ON THE ROAD WHERE THEY WANT TO BUILD
19:34:46 THIS.
19:34:48 SEVERAL PROBLEM AND THE MAJOR PROBLEM IS THE TRAFFIC
19:34:49 AND SAFETY PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
19:34:52 WHEN THEY COME OUT ON OAKELLAR, THAT THE ONLY WAY WE
19:34:55 HAVE BEEN LET KNOW THAT THEY ARE COMING OUT FROM THIS
19:34:57 COMMUNITY AND IT IS ALREADY BACKED UP BECAUSE RIGHT
19:35:00 NEXT DOOR IS THE POST OFFICE THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT AND
19:35:03 THEY ALREADY HAD A LOT OF TRUCKS THAT GO TO THE POST
19:35:05 OFFICE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO THAT POST OFFICE
19:35:08 AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC ALREADY.
19:35:11 AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE SHOOTING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY
19:35:16 TO GO OUT OTHER WAYS BECAUSE WHEN OAKELLAR BACKS OFF GO
19:35:17 TO ALL THE SIDE STREETS.
19:35:20 I HAVE BEEN HIT ON THE CORNER OF CORTEZ AND THE NEXT
19:35:23 BLOCK OVER IS COACHMAN.
19:35:26 T-BONED HIT BY SOMEONE COMING FROM THE POST OFFICE.
19:35:29 NOT LIKE WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY
19:35:32 AND DOWN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE -- PARKING SPOTS FOR
19:35:33 THEIR PEOPLE.
19:35:35 ACCORDING TO WHAT I SAW AND LISTENING TO THE
19:35:38 CONVERSATION, IT IS CONFUSING TO THE FINAL NUMBERS OF A
19:35:41 LOT OF THINGS AND WHAT THEIR FINAL THINGS ARE, BUT FROM
19:35:50 WHAT I SAW AGAIN WHAT I WORKED DOWN 313 UNITS, DOUBLE
19:35:53 OCCUPANCY, 347 PEOPLE IF THERE ARE NO VEHICLES.
19:35:56 AND WANT TO DOWN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPOTS SO THAT
19:35:59 MEANS YOU HAVE TO PARK OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
19:36:02 THEY WANT TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET
19:36:05 AROUND, THE REALITY IS TO GO PLACES IN TAMPA, THEY ARE
19:36:07 GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A CAR.
19:36:10 MOST PEOPLE WILL HAVE A CAR AND 347 PEOPLE COMING OUT
19:36:10 OF THAT.
19:36:14 THERE HAS BEEN NO INDICATION OF IT BEING ABLE TO GO OUT
19:36:15 THE GANDY WAY AT ALL.
19:36:17 SO THE ONLY WAY OUT WHETHER THEY ELIMINATE THE DRIVEWAY
19:36:20 THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT OR NOT THEY ARE STILL COMING OUT
19:36:23 THE SAME WAY AS THE SAME SIDE STREET IN OUR COMMUNITY.
19:36:27 AND IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, THERE ARE
19:36:29 ALREADY BIG UNITS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WHOLE
19:36:32 COMMUNITY.
19:36:39 THERE ARE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS CAN'T SEE
19:36:43 IT TOO GOOD AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO ADJUST IT.
19:36:46 THE CIRCLE SPOT IS WHERE THEY WANT TO BUILD.
19:36:52 THE POST OFFICE AND OAKELLAR AND ARMS HAVE 28 UNITS.
19:36:53 FOUR STORIES.
19:36:55 BRANDY CHASE APARTMENTS WITH 56 UNITS.
19:36:59 I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE
19:36:59 THERE.
19:37:02 IT'S A TWO-STORY.
19:37:07 SOUTH ON MANHATTAN RIGHT ACROSS GANDY, 287 UNITS, IT IS
19:37:08 THREE STORIES.
19:37:14 IN THE CORNER OF GANDY AND WEST SHORE, A TON OF STUFF
19:37:16 BEING BUILT OVER THERE.
19:37:19 ON THE 2040 PLAN, THAT IS ACTUALLY TOWARD THE RED
19:37:20 COLOR.
19:37:22 THERE IS SO MUCH BEING BUILT AND OVER HERE IS THE
19:37:24 GEORGETOWN WHICH IS RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
19:37:27 THEY WANT TO BUILD HERE.
19:37:31 OAKELLAR AND THE NEXT SIDE STREET WHICH IS COACHMAN AND
19:37:31 FAIR OAKS.
19:37:34 WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING FROM FAIR OAKS
19:37:36 BACK AND FORTH FROM MANISCALCO TO WEST SHORE.
19:37:40 THIS IS GOING TO ADD A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND WEST
19:37:43 SHORE IS ONLY ONE LANE GOING BOTH WAYS THEY WILL BE
19:37:45 SHOOTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO THE OTHER
19:37:46 SIDE.
19:37:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
19:37:50 >> IS MY TIME UP?
19:37:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM.
19:37:52 THANK YOU.
19:38:12 >> OKAY.
19:38:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
19:38:15 >> CAN YOU SEE ME?
19:38:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, I CAN SEE YOU.
19:38:22 >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL BEARD, OWNER OF 81 BREWING
19:38:26 COMPANY, 645 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
19:38:27 I WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT IN OPPOSITION OF THIS
19:38:28 REZONING.
19:38:31 I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS THAT WERE SAID
19:38:33 ABOUT ME AND MY BUSINESS.
19:38:35 AND JUST GIVE MY GENERAL OPINION OF WHAT THIS REZONING
19:38:38 WOULD TO DO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:38:41 FIRST OFF, MR. GREIS SAID I SOMEHOW VILIFIED HIM IN THE
19:38:43 MEDIA OR ONLINE.
19:38:45 THIS IS NOT TRUE IN ANY WAY.
19:38:49 I HAVE MADE NO PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT HIM WHATSOEVER.
19:38:52 SIMPLY POSTED A SIGN FOR THE REZONING, WHICH WAS PUBLIC
19:38:56 RECORD AND SAID IF ANYONE HAS ANY OPINIONS ABOUT THIS,
19:38:58 HERE IS WHEN AND WHERE YOU CAN MAKE THOSE STATEMENTS
19:39:00 KNOWN.
19:39:04 SECOND, MY BUSINESS IS ABSOLUTELY THRIVING.
19:39:06 IN 2020, WE WON THE BEST LARGE BREWERY IN THE STATE OF
19:39:10 FLORIDA AT THE BEST FLORIDA BEER CHAMPIONSHIPS.
19:39:10 [APPLAUSE]
19:39:15 SORRY -- 2020 WAS OBVIOUSLY A BIT OF A SETBACK FOR THE
19:39:18 ENTIRE BAR INDUSTRY, BUT PREVIOUS TO THAT WE HAVE GROWN
19:39:23 BY DOUBLE-DIGIT REVENUE EVERY YEAR, YEAR-OVER-YEAR.
19:39:25 2021 LOOKS TO BE THE BEST YEAR ON RECORD EVER.
19:39:30 WHEN THE CRAFT BEER MARKET ON LARGE SHRUNK 90%, MY
19:39:33 VOLUMESHIP WENT UP 27% YEAR-OVER-YEAR.
19:39:36 SO WE ARE ONE OF THE BEST BREWERIES IN THE STATE.
19:39:40 WE ARE THRIVING BOTH FINANCIALLY AND AS OUR BRAND.
19:39:44 AND WE HAVE NO PLANS WHATSOEVER TO MOVE UNLESS FORCED
19:39:47 TO DO SO SOMEHOW, WHICH I DON'T SEE IS A POSSIBILITY IN
19:39:49 REALITY SEEING HOW WE BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ENFORCEABLE
19:39:52 LEASE FOR 15 MORE YEARS.
19:39:57 LASTLY, WE ARE A BIT OF A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR SOUTH
19:39:58 TAMPA.
19:39:59 PEOPLE COME IN.
19:40:01 WE HAVE FUNDRAISERS FOR THE LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
19:40:02 PTA.
19:40:03 WE HAVE A BOOK CLUB.
19:40:07 WE DO LOCAL TRIVIA AND 90% OF MY CUSTOMERS IN THE TAP
19:40:09 ROOM ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:40:12 AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO VERY FAR TO FIND A
19:40:15 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT PLACE TO MEET WITH THEIR FRIENDS,
19:40:17 FAMILY, COLLEAGUES.
19:40:19 AND IF YOU TAKE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS AWAY FROM THIS
19:40:22 NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU PUT IN A LOT MORE PEOPLE, YOU ARE
19:40:25 NOT ONLY ENSURING THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE ON THE
19:40:28 ROAD, YOU ARE ENSURING THAT EVERYONE AROUND US HAVE TO
19:40:31 DRIVE A LOT FARTHER TO CONGREGATE WITH THEIR FRIENDS
19:40:34 AND FAMILY AND I THINK THAT IS A MAJOR MISTAKE FOR
19:40:34 EVERYONE.
19:40:36 THAT IS ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
19:40:38 I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED.
19:40:41 I WANTED TO COME OUT IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING AND
19:40:43 KIND OF SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT FOR WHO WE WERE AND
19:40:45 WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THERE.
19:40:48 AS FAR AS THIS BEING A FAILED RETAIL CENTER, IF YOU
19:40:51 LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE LITIGATION THAT IS PUBLIC
19:40:54 RECORD THAT HAS THIS ADDRESS ON IT.
19:40:57 YOU MIGHT COME TO DIFFERENT CONCLUSION THAN THE
19:41:00 LOCATION IS THE REASON FOR A FAILED RETAIL ENTER OR THE
19:41:04 TENANTS ARE THE REASON FOR THE FAILED RETAIL CENTER.
19:41:07 YOU LOOK THROUGH THOSE DOCUMENTS I WILL LET YOU DRAW
19:41:09 YOUR OWN CONCLUSION FOR THEM AND A GREAT SITE FOR
19:41:10 RETAIL.
19:41:13 WHY I MOVED FROM SAN DIEGO, ONE OF THE BREWERY CAPITALS
19:41:16 OF THE WORLD TO OPEN A BREWERY HERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT
19:41:19 IT WAS SUCH A GREAT LOCATION TO OPEN A TAP ROOM AND
19:41:22 START A GREAT BREWERY WHICH WE HAVE DONE.
19:41:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
19:41:25 >> THANK YOU, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
19:41:26 [APPLAUSE]
19:41:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE THEY HAVE BEEN SAMPLING A
19:41:29 LITTLE BIT.
19:41:44 [LAUGHTER]
19:41:44 >> OKAY.
19:41:46 GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN.
19:41:48 HOW IS EVERYONE DOING.
19:41:51 SHAWN BROWN, PRESIDENT OF THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
19:41:55 FIRST REAL QUICK, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO
19:41:56 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
19:41:57 DOESN'T WANT TO SPENDS YOUR BIRTHDAY HERE ON A
19:41:58 THURSDAY.
19:42:01 THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
19:42:06 COMING OUT HERE TO OBJECT TO THIS CRAZY PROPOSAL, TO BE
19:42:07 QUITE FRANK.
19:42:10 FIRST OFF, THE THOUGHT OF 100,000 COMMERCIAL SQUARE
19:42:13 FEET GOING AWAY -- THAT IS TAKING AWAY JOBS.
19:42:18 WHEN YOU LOOK AT HERE ON THE ELMO, YOU -- ONE OF THE
19:42:22 THINGS ABOUT MIXED USE CORRIDOR, TALKS ABOUT CREATE NEW
19:42:24 HOUSING AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES WHILE IMPROVING THE
19:42:25 PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT.
19:42:26 NOW LET ME BE BLUNT.
19:42:31 THE FACT THAT THEY ARE RE-ORIENTING THIS WHOLE PROJECT
19:42:36 IS TO AVOID GANDY BOULEVARD AS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
19:42:38 THE REQUIREMENTS OF A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
19:42:42 THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID THAT BY PUTTING IT ON
19:42:44 OAKELLAR.
19:42:46 AND THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY TRAFFIC REDUCED ON GANDY
19:42:47 IF IT IS NOT COMMERCIAL.
19:42:51 THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU FACTS OF OAKELLAR AT ALL AND HOW
19:42:52 THE TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE.
19:42:56 IDIOTIC IN AND OF ITSELF.
19:42:59 THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID GANDY AND AVOID THE
19:43:01 REQUIREMENTS ON THAT, ALL RIGHT.
19:43:04 WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, AGAIN, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
19:43:07 LOOKING AT PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT LAND
19:43:11 USE POLICY 6.1.1 AND THE OBJECTIVES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN,
19:43:13 IT TALKS ABOUT TRANSIT.
19:43:16 YOU KNOW, TRYING TO INCORPORATE THINGS.
19:43:18 ALL THESE POLICIES ARE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT.
19:43:22 LET ME PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AND REMIND ALL OF YOU,
19:43:29 NO HART BUSLINE THAT GOES ALONG GANDY WHATSOEVER.
19:43:30 NOTHING.
19:43:34 SO HOW IS IT SMART TO PUT 800 UNITS WHEN THERE IS NO
19:43:35 BUS LINE.
19:43:36 HART SCHEDULE.
19:43:40 THE ONLY BUS SOUTH OF EUCLID IS DOWN MANHATTAN.
19:43:44 NO BUS LINE ON GANDY, NOTHING OF THAT SORT WHATSOEVER.
19:43:47 SO, AGAIN, THE REASON THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED THE WAY
19:43:50 IT IS TO AVOID THE REQUIREMENTS OF GANDY.
19:43:53 AND IT BEING CLASSIFIED AS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
19:43:56 BUT IT IS LACKING IN THAT SENSE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, HART
19:43:59 HAVEN'T PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE AS FAR AS IT BEING A BUS
19:44:00 ROUTE.
19:44:04 IN ADDITION, THE IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT.
19:44:08 IN 2008 WYNN DIXIE WENT BANKRUPT.
19:44:12 ALL OF WYNN DIXIE GROCERY STORE CLOSED.
19:44:14 LOOK AT AESTHETICS OF THIS PROPERTY.
19:44:16 IT HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINED AT ALL.
19:44:20 YES, IT MAY BE DETERRING RETAIL AND PUT UPGRADES AND
19:44:22 THINGS LIKE THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET COMMERCIAL IN
19:44:23 FLORIDA.
19:44:24 WE NEED COMMERCIAL.
19:44:25 LOOK, THEY CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
19:44:29 THIS IS THE MORRISON ON THE ELMO RIGHT HERE ON HOWARD,
19:44:30 RIGHT HERE
19:44:31 APARTMENTS ON TOP.
19:44:35 ALL THAT COMMERCIAL IS FULL AT THE BOTTOM INCLUDING A
19:44:37 SMALL PILATES GYM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
19:44:40 RIGHT THERE ON HOWARD AND HOWARD IS CONSIDERED ONE OF
19:44:45 THOSE TRANSIT CORRIDORS AND ANOTHER PROJECT DOWN
19:44:49 HOWARD, APARTMENTS ON THE TOP AND COMMERCIAL ON BOTTOM.
19:44:53 ONE OF THESE FOLKS SAID THE APPLEBEE'S ON THE PROPERTY
19:44:56 WILL BLOCK THE OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE SEEN.
19:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. BROWN.
19:44:59 >> THANK YOU, GUYS.
19:45:21 I APPRECIATE IT.
19:45:23 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
19:45:25 >> GOOD EVENING.
19:45:28 >> I AM KEN CHAPMAN AND I AM AN ATTORNEY AND REPRESENT
19:45:31 GRACE CHURCH WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE PLAZA.
19:45:33 I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING
19:45:34 APPLICATION.
19:45:37 WHAT I FOUND KIND OF INTERESTING IN LISTENING TO THE
19:45:39 APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT
19:45:41 OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN OMITTED.
19:45:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU GO CLOSER TO THE MIC, SIR?
19:45:47 >> CERTAINLY, MY APOLOGIES.
19:45:50 PROBABLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE POINTED OUT, TECHNICAL ISSUES
19:45:52 THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
19:45:54 ONE IS THAT THE APPLICANT'S OWNERSHIP INTEREST IS BEING
19:45:55 CHALLENGED.
19:45:57 ANOTHER PARTY IS CONTESTING WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A
19:46:00 PRIOR RIGHT TO OWN THE PROPERTY VIS-A-VIS A RIGHT OF
19:46:02 FIRST REFUSAL.
19:46:04 THE LAWSUIT IS PENDING AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE
19:46:07 COMPLETED BEFORE THE COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION ON THE
19:46:08 APPLICATION.
19:46:11 ANOTHER ISSUE THAT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT A SET OF
19:46:15 DECLARATIONS AND COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT APPLY
19:46:16 TO THE PLAZA.
19:46:21 THIS IN AND OF ITSELF OF ALL PROPERTY INCLUDING THE
19:46:25 APPLICANT'S PROPERTY FOR RETAIL OPERATIONS.
19:46:29 ASKING FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL VIOLATE THOSE
19:46:30 PROVISIONS.
19:46:31 THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
19:46:32 THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
19:46:38 ON A PRACTICAL LEVEL, 586 TOTAL PARKING SPACES IN THE
19:46:39 PLAZA.
19:46:43 PARKING SPACES ARE SHARED AMONG ALL OWNERS IN THE
19:46:43 PLAZA.
19:46:48 300 THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO MY CLIENT FOR ITS SERVICES.
19:46:53 437 PROPOSED FOR THE PROJECT THAT LEAVES 737 TOTAL
19:46:57 PARKING SPACE REQUIRED 151 PARKING SPACES.
19:47:01 PHYSICALLY THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR TO GO FORWARD AND
19:47:04 SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE BASIS OF DENYING THE
19:47:04 APPLICATION.
19:47:08 CITY STAFF IS ACTUALLY POINTED OUT IT IS INCONSISTENT
19:47:11 CURRENT CODE AND PLAN REQUIREMENTS.
19:47:14 THE APPROVAL WILL ESSENTIALLY WIND UP SHUTTING DOWN THE
19:47:17 OTHER OWNERS IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO SEQUESTER 300
19:47:21 PARKING SPACES AND USED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPLEX.
19:47:24 THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT THERE
19:47:27 ARE SOME COMMUNITY ISSUES HERE RELATED TO THIS.
19:47:29 THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED
19:47:31 FOR THIS COUNCIL LAST MONTH.
19:47:35 IN FACT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, APPROVAL FOR DRAFTING A
19:47:39 PROPOSAL TO LIMIT PROJECTS JUST LIKE THIS.
19:47:42 HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
19:47:47 SO ESSENTIALLY, TO ENTERTAIN THE ZONING APPLICATION IN
19:47:50 AND OF ITSELF LIES IN WHAT THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO
19:47:52 ACHIEVE OTHERWISE.
19:47:54 BASICALLY LOOKING AT THIS FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE,
19:47:56 THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HARM THE COMMUNITY.
19:48:00 HURT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE RETAIL,
19:48:03 RESTAURANT, AND OTHER SERVICE-TYPE INDUSTRIES THAT CAN
19:48:07 ACTUALLY MOVE INTO THESE UNITS THAT ARE EXISTING HERE
19:48:10 NOW VERSUS TURNING THEM INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
19:48:13 THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE SUFFERING FROM THE EFFECT
19:48:17 OF COVID NOT JUST THE TRAGIC LOSS OF LIFE, BUT ALSO A
19:48:21 SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF JOBS AND EMPLOYMENT.
19:48:24 WITH THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSE SOMETHING TO ESSENTIALLY
19:48:24 GO IN.
19:48:26 RAZE A BUILDING.
19:48:29 CALL 81 BREWING COMPANY TO SHUT DOWN, FIRE THEIR
19:48:31 EMPLOYEES --
19:48:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
19:48:35 ONE MOMENT, I SEE A LIGHT ON.
19:48:36 MR. MIRANDA?
19:48:37 >> PARDON?
19:48:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR LIGHT.
19:48:41 YOU WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED?
19:48:44 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED.
19:48:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
19:48:47 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE WRAPPING UP THE PRESENTATION.
19:48:50 >> I HAVE ONE OTHER POINT IF I CAN ASK FOR THE
19:48:52 COUNCIL'S INDULGENCE?
19:48:55 >> QUICKLY -- I BELIEVE I AM THE LAST SPEAKER THIS
19:48:55 EVENING.
19:48:58 I UNDERSTAND SOME QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL IN ACCESSING
19:49:01 GANDY BOULEVARD.
19:49:04 THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE APPLICANT DOESN'T OWN THAT
19:49:05 RIGHT.
19:49:06 THEY DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY.
19:49:09 THAT IS AN EASEMENT THAT IS PROVIDED THROUGH THE
19:49:10 DECLARATIONS.
19:49:13 IF THE DECLARATIONS ARE HONORED AND UTILIZED WITH THE
19:49:16 PUMP TO PROVIDING ACCESS WITH GANDY HAS TO BE RESPECTED
19:49:19 WITH THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO OPERATE
19:49:20 A PROJECT THAT IS NOT RETAIL.
19:49:23 NOW THE EXCEPTION TO THAT WOULD BE THEY WOULD HAVE TO
19:49:28 GET CONSENT BY MY CLIENT, WHO OWNS PARCEL A WITHIN THE
19:49:28 PLAZA.
19:49:32 THAT IS THE ONLY BASIS WHERE AN OPERATION OR ACTIVITY
19:49:34 OTHER THAN RETAIL CAN BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE PLAZA
19:49:37 ITSELF.
19:49:40 SO BEFORE THE APPLICANT CAN MOVE FORWARD, THEY ARE
19:49:45 GOING TO HAVE TO GET PASS -- AND GET MY CLIENTS
19:49:48 APPROVAL AND CONSENT WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND
19:49:52 WILL NOT HAPPEN BASED ON THE CURRENT PLANS PROPOSED,
19:49:56 BASED ON THE FOREGOING WE WILL ASK FOR THE COUNCIL TO
19:49:58 DECLINE THE ACTION FOR REZONING.
19:49:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
19:50:00 [APPLAUSE]
19:50:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
19:50:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNSELOR, I AM CONFUSED BUT I
19:50:09 THINK YOU CLARIFIED IT A LITTLE BIT.
19:50:12 FROM -- FROM THE OAKELLAR NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE,
19:50:15 TAKE -- TAKE YOUR CHURCH HAT OFF FOR A SECOND.
19:50:18 FROM THE OAKELLAR NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT
19:50:21 WOULD BE BETTER AND ASSUMING THEY HAD THE LEGAL RIGHT
19:50:24 AND THE CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS TO BUILD THIS APARTMENT
19:50:28 COMPLEX, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER NOT TO ROUTE
19:50:29 THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:50:32 THAT IS JUST AS A COUNCILMAN.
19:50:36 I WOULD RATHER SEE IT GO IN AND OUT OF GANDY BOULEVARD.
19:50:39 BUT MY QUESTION IS, AND THIS IS SORT OF A LEGAL
19:50:41 QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THESE
19:50:42 DOCUMENTS.
19:50:48 DO THEY HAVE ACCESS ACROSS THAT PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW
19:50:54 TO GET TO GANDY.
19:50:56 THAT IS MY BASIC QUESTION.
19:50:57 >> YES, THEY DO.
19:51:00 THERE IS -- THERE IS A CROSS EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT
19:51:03 ALLOWS ALL THE OWNERS WITHIN THE PLAZA TO UTILIZE
19:51:09 ACCESS TO AND FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS ON BOTH SIDES OF
19:51:09 THE PARCEL.
19:51:12 BUT THE ISSUE WE ARE LOOKING AT IS NOT JUST THE
19:51:13 EASEMENT.
19:51:19 IF 300 OF THE 584 PARKING SPACES ARE SEQUESTERED.
19:51:21 THAT DOESN'T LEAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR ANY OTHER
19:51:22 BUSINESS TO OPERATE.
19:51:27 THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS IF -- IF THAT IS PERMITTED,
19:51:31 THEN MY CLIENT WON'T HAVE REQUISITE NUMBER OF PARKING
19:51:35 TO OPERATE ITS ACTIVITIES AS A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
19:51:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
19:51:38 >> THEN IT HAS TO SHUT DOWN.
19:51:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY CONCERN IS EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS
19:51:44 LIKE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FROM YOUR CLIENT'S PERSPECTIVE,
19:51:47 IF I ASK MISS WELLS OUR ATTORNEY WATCHING, SHE IS
19:51:50 PROBABLY GOING TO TELL US THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE BETWEEN
19:51:53 PRIVATE PARTIES AND THE COUNCIL CAN'T NECESSARILY
19:51:59 INCLUDE IN THEIR ZONING CONSIDERATION.
19:52:03 MR. WELLS ARE WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT.
19:52:06 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, A FEW
19:52:08 THINGS MENTIONED WITH RESPECT TO THE ALLEGATIONS THERE
19:52:09 IS A QUESTION OF OWNERSHIP.
19:52:12 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HEARING OF THAT.
19:52:14 BUT IF THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT OWNERSHIP AND IT IS
19:52:18 UNCLEAR WHO IS THE APPROPRIATE PARTY TO BE MOVING
19:52:21 FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
19:52:23 FROM MR. MICHELINI ON THAT ISSUE.
19:52:27 WITH RESPECT TO THE PRIVATE COVENANTS, YOU ARE CORRECT,
19:52:30 THOSE ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY AND WOULD BE
19:52:34 BEYOND THE REACH FOR CITY COUNCIL DURING TODAY'S
19:52:34 MEETING.
19:52:42 WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING SPACES, THIS SITE PLAN THAT
19:52:45 IS SUBMITTED TO YOU MUST BE A SITE PLAN -- MUST INCLUDE
19:52:50 ONLY THAT PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN THE APPLICANT'S
19:52:53 OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL.
19:52:55 >> THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT.
19:52:57 >>CATE WELLS: THEY ARE SHOWING PARKING FOR THIS
19:53:00 PROJECT THAT IS SHARED WITH ANOTHER USE.
19:53:02 THAT NEEDS FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH OUR STAFF.
19:53:06 BECAUSE IT WOULD -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD MOVE
19:53:10 FORWARD WITH A SITE PLAN THAT INCLUDES PROPERTY THAT
19:53:13 PERHAPS IS -- IS OWNED BY ANOTHER ENTITY THAT HAS NOT
19:53:16 CONSENTED TO THIS APPLICATION.
19:53:21 SO A YOU FEW QUESTIONS PROCEDURALLY OF HOW WE WILL MOVE
19:53:25 FORWARD WITH THIS BASED ON THIS TESTIMONY.
19:53:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MISS WELLS.
19:53:30 THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.
19:53:32 >> THANK YOU.
19:53:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND COUNSEL, WITH PENDING LITIGATION
19:53:42 WITH THIS PROPERTY AND HOPEFULLY WILL GET INFORMATION
19:53:44 FROM MR. MICHELINI.
19:53:45 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
19:53:49 >> DID YOU WANT ME TO RESPOND TO THIS, COUNCILMAN?
19:53:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL WAIT FOR REBUTTAL AND GET
19:53:54 THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND GET TO IT.
19:53:55 >> OKAY, THAT IS FINE.
19:53:59 >> NO MORE PERSONS HERE AT THIS MOMENT.
19:54:00 GUDES NO MORE PERSONS?
19:54:01 OKAY.
19:54:05 WE WILL GO TO REBUTTAL.
19:54:07 MR. MICHELINI.
19:54:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE THE ONLINE.
19:54:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
19:54:12 I FORGOT.
19:54:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WISHFUL THINKING.
19:54:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINE.
19:54:25 >> CHAIR, I AM CURRENTLY BRINGING FIVE OVER AT A TIME
19:54:27 BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW.
19:54:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, SWEAR THOSE FIVE IN AT A TIME
19:54:50 THEN.
19:54:55 >>CLERK: I NEED KEVIN FRIDY, LARRY GISPERT, STEPHANIE
19:55:06 POYNOR, SARAH FRIDY TO TURN ON YOUR MIC AND TURN ON
19:55:24 YOUR VIDEO.
19:55:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAITING FOR ONE MORE, DEPUTY CLERK.
19:55:32 >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
19:55:35 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE
19:55:39 WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH FOR THE RECORD,
19:55:42 THE CLERK DID RECEIVE WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
19:55:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: START WITH KEVIN FRIDY.
19:55:47 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
19:55:49 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
19:55:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
19:55:54 >> IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR IMAGE 2040 MAP OF TAMPA, THE
19:55:58 PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS QUOTED FOR -- CODED FOR HIGH
19:56:02 INTENSITY SUBURBAN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH IS
19:56:04 CODED ESTABLISHED.
19:56:07 I WOULD ARGUE A FOUR-STORY BUILDING WITH 300 UNITS,
19:56:11 MOST OF THEM MICRO FACING OAKELLAR IS NOT IN KEEPING
19:56:15 WITH THE CITY PLAN FOR HIGH INTENSITY SUBURBAN.
19:56:18 ORIENTED A STRUCTURE IN SUCH A WAY TO DIRECT TRAFFIC
19:56:20 INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NORTH IS NOT IN KEEPING
19:56:23 WITH THE CITY PLAN FOR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:56:26 HIGH INTENSITY SUBURBAN IS NOTED FOR LOW-RISE
19:56:27 BUILDINGS.
19:56:30 SO THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR MID-RISE STRUCTURES,
19:56:32 THESE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS RATHER THAN THE RULE.
19:56:38 THERE IS A LIMITED TRANSIT AVAILABILITY.
19:56:41 SO THE ASSUMPTION BE THAT THE COMPLEX SHOULD NOT HAVE
19:56:42 THE WAIVER GRANTED FOR PARKING.
19:56:45 YOUR PLAN CALLS FOR PLANTABLE SPACES.
19:56:49 AND YET THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO REDUCE BY
19:56:55 APPROXIMATELY HALF THE AREA PROPOSED JUST THE OPPOSITE.
19:57:00 IN ITS THREE YEARS OF EXISTENCE 81 BREWERY HAVE BECOME
19:57:03 A PLACE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD LIVING ROOM A PLACE TO MEET
19:57:04 FOR NEIGHBORS AND TALK TO THE COMMUNION.
19:57:07 IF YOU MAKE WAY FOR THE PROPOSAL WE WILL LOSE THIS
19:57:14 VALUABLE SPACE IN THIS REZONING -- THAT THE FIRER IN
19:57:17 THE ZONING HAVE OPENLY DISPARAGED.
19:57:20 WHAT WOULD THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GAIN?
19:57:23 I SENT YOU A PARKING MAP.
19:57:26 THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS SET CLOSE TO RESIDENT HOUSING
19:57:31 AND OAKELLAR DESPITE THE ADDRESS.
19:57:34 PUSHES THE STRUCTURE ABOUT 100 FEET FROM A
19:57:35 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
19:57:38 CURRENT OCCUPANT IS 90 YEARS OLD.
19:57:41 WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS CREATING -- IF YOU ALLOW THIS
19:57:45 BUILDING A SITUATION RIFE FOR CONFLICT.
19:57:54 MUCH OF THE 4600 OF CORTEZ AND HESPERIDES IS FURTHER
19:57:58 THAN THE PARKING SPACE WHICH IS 300 FEET AWAY.
19:58:01 THE STAPLE CAN BE SAID FOR THE BANK OF AMERICA, CVS AND
19:58:04 GRACE FAMILY CHURCH LOT, THREE WONDERFUL CORPORATE
19:58:06 NEIGHBORS, I MIGHT ADD.
19:58:10 AND ALSO OAKELLAR AVENUE AND THE ACCESS ROAD CONNECTING
19:58:13 OAKELLAR TO CVS.
19:58:17 THIS WILL PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR RESIDENTS TO PARK IN
19:58:19 THE NEIGHBORING RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND I
19:58:22 WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS NORTH,
19:58:23 SOUTH, HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.
19:58:26 SO WHILE THE REST OF THE CITY -- MUCH OF THE REST OF
19:58:29 THE CITY IS GETTING BIKE LANES BECAUSE OF THE MAYOR'S
19:58:32 PLAN, WE ARE GOING TO GET LOTS AND LOTS OF PARKING FROM
19:58:35 THESE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, WHICH WILL FORCE OUR KIDS
19:58:39 TO WALK NOT ON THE CURB WHERE THEY CURRENTLY WALK BUT
19:58:41 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
19:58:44 THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR THREE THINGS.
19:58:48 WANT TO ZONED FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
19:58:50 THEY WANT FEWER PARKING SPACES.
19:58:52 THEY WANT LESS GREEN SPACES.
19:58:53 NONE GO WITH YOUR PROPOSED PLAN.
19:58:55 ALL OF THIS HURTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
19:58:57 THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT YOU SHOULD EASILY OBJECT.
19:59:00 IF YOU APPROVE IT, YOU ARE GIVING DEVELOPERS A SIGN
19:59:02 THAT ANYTHING CAN GO.
19:59:04 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
19:59:10 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
19:59:13 LARRY GISPERT.
19:59:20 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
19:59:23 WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
19:59:33 WILL YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
19:59:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU AT ALL.
19:59:38 >>CLERK: CLICK THE MICROPHONE.
19:59:49 THE RED MICROPHONE ON THE PANEL.
19:59:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE NEEDS TO YOU CLICK THE RED
19:59:54 MICROPHONE ON THE PANEL.
20:00:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEE THE MICROPHONE ON THE COMPUTER.
20:00:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL COME BACK TO HIM.
20:00:09 TO STEPHANIE POYNOR.
20:00:11 [INAUDIBLE]
20:00:12 >> GOOD EVENING, MY FRIENDS.
20:00:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD EVENING.
20:00:17 >> I AM GOING TO START AT THE END OF MY SPEECH, BECAUSE
20:00:19 I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IS
20:00:21 AFFORDABLE.
20:00:25 AND I HAD A LESSON WITH A FRIEND OF MINE FROM
20:00:28 LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY WHO IS CONSIDERED AN EXPERT BY
20:00:28 HUD.
20:00:31 AND SHE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE WAY THEY CALCULATE
20:00:36 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACCORDING TO HUD IS TO TAKE 80% OF
20:00:37 THE MEDIAN INCOME.
20:00:40 THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR BAYSHORE WEST WHICH IS THE
20:00:43 NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH THIS LOCATION IS THIS IS AROUND
20:00:44 $48,000.
20:00:49 YOU REDUCE THAT TO $38,140.
20:00:57 THEN YOU TAKE 30% OF THAT 80% AND THAT IS HOW YOU
20:01:02 CALCULATE HOW MUCH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT CAN COST.
20:01:04 BUT IT MUST INCLUDE UTILITIES.
20:01:10 SO FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA, ACCORDING TO CENSUS DATA,
20:01:15 $953.50 IS WHAT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD COST
20:01:19 INCLUDING UTILITIES -- DON'T LEAVE THOSE UTILITIES OUT.
20:01:23 SO WHATEVER MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM COME BACK WITH,
20:01:27 IT BETTER BE LESS THAN $900 A MONTH AT LEAST.
20:01:31 ANYWAY, LET ME GET BACK TO MY ORIGINAL TASK.
20:01:34 STOP OVERBUILDING MONSTER APARTMENTS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
20:01:35 I SAID IT BEFORE.
20:01:36 I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.
20:01:39 YES, I KNOW THIS ISN'T SOUTH OF GANDY, BUT IT CERTAINLY
20:01:42 IS CLOSE ENOUGH FOR GOVERNMENT WORK.
20:01:45 SPEAKING OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS
20:01:49 ON PAGE 14 AND 15 THAT SOUTH TAMPA IS DEFINED AS AN
20:01:51 AREA OF STAYABILITY.
20:01:56 SOUTH TAMPA NEEDS MORE SUSTAINABLE MIX OF USES THAT
20:02:00 PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF
20:02:04 RESIDENTS ALONG THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATED CORRIDORS IS
20:02:08 ANOTHER WAY TO ENHANCE NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY AND
20:02:09 STABILITY.
20:02:15 YET HERE WE ARE, TALKING ABOUT TEARING DOWN SOMETHING
20:02:18 THAT FOLKS ARE BEGGING FOR IN ORDER TO PACIFY A DEVELOP
20:02:21 OTHER WANTS TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY WE ARE
20:02:23 VEHEMENTLY AGAINST.
20:02:27 STOP BUILDING MONSTER APARTMENT SOUTH TAMPA.
20:02:30 I KNOW THE LAWS ABOUT LANDOWNER RIGHTS.
20:02:34 BUT WHAT ABOUT THE LANDOWNERS IN BAY SIDE WEST.
20:02:38 WHAT ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS WHEN YOU JAM 305, 313, WHAT
20:02:46 DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE INTO A SPACE OF 6.687 WITH
20:02:47 SUPPOSEDLY THREE EXITS.
20:02:50 THIS IS WHAT THE PAPERWORK SAYS.
20:02:52 I DIDN'T MAKE THIS UP.
20:02:56 THOSE THREE -- ARE GOING TO BE.
20:02:58 SORRY?
20:03:01 OAKELLAR, MANHATTAN AND GANDY.
20:03:05 I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING BUT OAKELLAR ON THEIR SITE PLANS.
20:03:07 OAKELLAR IS A LOCAL ROAD.
20:03:11 THIS PROJECT WILL BE SHOT DOWN IF IT WASN'T THROUGH THE
20:03:12 NORMAL ZONING PROCESS.
20:03:17 IT WOULD NEVER GET TO THIS POINT IF IT WERE -- IF IT
20:03:19 WERE IN A REGULAR ZONING PROCESS.
20:03:23 GANDY, YOU CAN ONLY TURN WEST ON TO GANDY FROM THAT
20:03:24 PROPERTY.
20:03:25 MANHATTAN.
20:03:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS POYNOR.
20:03:30 >> PLEASE, PLEASE LET ME FINISH.
20:03:31 PLEASE.
20:03:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TEN SECONDS.
20:03:34 TEN SECONDS.
20:03:37 >> YOU ARE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS GOING NORTH
20:03:39 ON MANHATTAN.
20:03:42 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL GO THROUGH TO MANHATTAN.
20:03:46 MR. SCOTT ONLY ASKED FOR THE EASEMENT TO BE UPLOADED ON
20:03:47 THE ACELA FOR GANDY.
20:03:51 HE DID NOT ASK FOR THE EASEMENT WHERE THE EXIT ON TO --
20:03:54 ON TO MANHATTAN.
20:03:57 SO WHERE IS THE EASEMENT GOING TO BE?
20:03:59 CITY OF TAMPA OWNS THE LAND.
20:04:01 BANK OF AMERICA OWNS THE LAND.
20:04:03 AND CVS OWNS THE LAND.
20:04:06 NOBODY SHOWS WHERE THEY WILL GET OUT ON MANHATTAN.
20:04:10 PLEASE LET'S HEAR IT FROM MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM.
20:04:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:04:13 >> LARRY GISPERT.
20:04:15 I HAVE MICROPHONE.
20:04:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIR, WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU.
20:04:18 >> ARE YOU READY?
20:04:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, I AM READY.
20:04:21 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:04:24 MY NAME IS LARRY GISPERT.
20:04:28 MY WIFE SHIRLEY AND I LIVE AT CORTEZ AVENUE AND LIVE
20:04:30 THERE FOR OVER 31 YEARS.
20:04:32 THE PROPERTY INDICATED IN THE PROPERTY FOR REZONING IS
20:04:35 LESS THAN 150 FEET FROM MY FRONT DOOR.
20:04:40 NOW I SENT IN A TWO-PAGE E-MAIL WITH ALL MY ISSUES BUT
20:04:42 BECAUSE OF TIME I WILL TRY SUMMARIZE.
20:04:43 I HAVE THREE ISSUES.
20:04:47 THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD HURRICANE EVACUATION, THE USE
20:04:52 OF OAKELLAR AND ALSO LOCALIZED FLOODING.
20:04:56 THE CURRENT CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALSO
20:04:57 CALLED IMAGINE 2040.
20:05:00 THAT IS A GREAT NAME, STATES THAT THE OBJECTIVE OF THE
20:05:02 CITY IS TO THE TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THE
20:05:07 POPULATION RESIDING WANT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA ALSO
20:05:10 KNOWN AS HURRICANE EVACUATION LEVEL A.
20:05:13 THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR THE REZONING APPLICATION LIES
20:05:13 IN THAT AREA.
20:05:16 I SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MY PROFESSIONAL TIME
20:05:19 WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS THEIR
20:05:22 DIRECTOR FOR 17 YEARS TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO
20:05:25 EVACUATE OUT OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
20:05:29 LET ME TELL YOU MY BATTING AVERAGE WAS NOT THAT GREAT.
20:05:31 THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE.
20:05:34 THIS THING OF FIVE DAY PRIOR EVENT AND COUNTING DOWN.
20:05:37 THAT IS HORSE MANEUVER.
20:05:40 POLITICAL LEADERSHIP WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT TO PULL
20:05:44 THE TRIGGER AND AS A CONSEQUENCE A MASS EVACUATION IF
20:05:46 THERE IS ONE AT ALL.
20:05:49 YOU DON'T NEED 300-PLUS PEOPLE WITH THEIR CARS INTO THE
20:05:51 COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
20:05:54 THE CURRENT PLANS SHOW THEY WILL BE INGRESSING AND
20:06:00 EGRESSING OFF OF OAKELLAR AVENUE, A SMALL RESIDENTIAL
20:06:02 AREA WITH A SPEED LIMIT OF 25 MILES PER HOUR.
20:06:05 IF YOU FOLLOW THE NORMAL TRAFFIC LOAD THEY GO DOWN TO
20:06:08 MANHATTAN, AN INTERSECTION CONTROLLED BY A STOP SIGN
20:06:09 ONLY.
20:06:13 MANHATTAN IS A MAYOR ARTERIAL THROUGH PUT NORTH AND
20:06:16 SOUTH AND HAVE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH THE
20:06:17 MIDDLE LANE FOR TURNING.
20:06:19 THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CURRENTLY
20:06:26 RATES MANHATTAN'S LEVEL OF SERVICE AS D AS IN DELTA.
20:06:31 AND THIS MANHATTAN WILL STOP AND COME TO A STOP WITHIN
20:06:32 NORMAL PEAK HOURS.
20:06:35 A HORRIBLE PLACE FOR EVACUATION.
20:06:37 OPINION ONE OF THE BIGGEST INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS WE
20:06:41 HAVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU AND IT
20:06:45 HAS BEEN FOR CENTURIES IS LOCALIZED STREET FLOODING.
20:06:49 MANHATTAN AVENUE TRADITIONALLY GOES UNDER WATER WITH
20:06:50 SEVERAL INCHES OF RAIN ESPECIALLY IF THE RAINFALL
20:06:56 OCCURS AT SAME TIME AS HIGH TIDE IN TAMPA BAY WHICH BY
20:06:59 THE WAY IS A MILE AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY.
20:07:02 THE LAST TIME MANHATTAN WENT UNDER WATER YOU COULD NOT
20:07:05 GET OUT TO THE NORTH OR SOUTH UNLESS YOU WERE WILLING
20:07:07 TO CHANCE YOUR CAR STALLING BECAUSE OF THE WATER.
20:07:10 PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL 300 RESIDENTS AND THEIR VEHICLES
20:07:15 IN AN AREA THAT ONLY HAS TO ACCESS MANHATTAN TO GET OUT
20:07:16 IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE.
20:07:21 FINALLY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO THE NORTH OF IT, 150
20:07:26 FEET, IS A BEAUTIFUL TREE-LINED SUBDIVISION IN SOUTH
20:07:27 TAMPA.
20:07:29 UNFORTUNATELY, THE NORTH-SOUTH STREETS CORTEZ,
20:07:33 HESPERIDES, ETC.
20:07:35 DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THEM.
20:07:38 RESIDENTS HAVE TO WALK ALONGSIDE ROAD IN ORDER TO DO
20:07:39 SOMETHING.
20:07:43 WE NOW HAVE PROBLEMS DODGING CARS BECAUSE CARS WILL USE
20:07:48 OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS TO BYPASS MANHATTAN WHEN IT IS
20:07:49 BACKED UP.
20:07:51 IF YOU PUT 300-PLUS VEHICLES, IT IS GOING TO BE A
20:07:54 HORRIBLE TROUBLE.
20:07:56 I WAS PERSONALLY HIT BY A VEHICLE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
20:07:58 IT IS NOT FUN.
20:08:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:08:00 >> FINALLY --
20:08:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:08:03 >> THANK YOU.
20:08:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GISPERT.
20:08:07 MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:08:10 CALLING PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
20:08:14 MR. GISPERT, I KNOW YOU SERVED OUR COUNTY AND OUR
20:08:18 COMMUNITY FOR DECADES DURING EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND
20:08:19 EVERYTHING ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
20:08:22 AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY
20:08:27 FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, AND FRANKLY, THIS
20:08:30 COUNCILMAN IS GOING TO BE TAPPING INTO SOME OF THAT
20:08:33 KNOWLEDGE OVER THE NEXT YEAR AS WE DISCUSS THESE
20:08:34 IMPORTANT ISSUES.
20:08:38 SO, THANK YOU, MR. GISPERT.
20:08:39 >> THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
20:08:41 GLADLY, CALL ME ANY TIME.
20:08:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, PETE TRELA.
20:08:46 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
20:08:50 FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU THE HARD WORK FOR
20:08:52 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
20:08:55 I AM SPEAKING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO
20:08:56 REZONING.
20:09:02 MY WIFE AND TWO CHILDREN HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS ON SOUTH
20:09:04 CORTEZ.
20:09:08 WE ARE LESS THAN 2,000 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
20:09:11 OUR CONCERNS ARE PLENTY BUT WE WANT TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC
20:09:14 CONCERNS THAT DO NOT GO WITH THE CURRENT GROWTH OF THE
20:09:16 CITY OF TAMPA.
20:09:20 FIRST, LITTLE OUT OF LINE OF WHAT I HAD PREPARED.
20:09:24 I KEEP HEARING AFFORDABLE OR NICE CATCHY TERM
20:09:26 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
20:09:28 AND PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN
20:09:31 ONE OR TWO BEDROOM HOUSING.
20:09:35 CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING I BELIEVE THAT MR. MIRANDA
20:09:38 MENTIONED I CAN RENT MY CLOSET FOR $50 A MONTH.
20:09:40 I DON'T THINK MY CLOSET WILL BE VERY COMFORTABLE BUT IT
20:09:42 IS VERY AFFORDABLE.
20:09:45 CURRENTLY THE PARCEL THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING IS ZONED
20:09:47 COMMERCIAL AND PROVIDE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AN
20:09:50 OPPORTUNITY TO WORK OUT TO A FARMER'S MARKET AND LIVE
20:09:55 MUSIC, MARTIAL ARTS AND AS WELL AS PURCHASE PRODUCTS
20:09:58 THAT ARE NOT FOR MY WIFE AND DAUGHTERS.
20:10:00 THESE EXACT BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL ON THIS
20:10:03 PARCEL THROUGHOUT PANDEMIC THAT SPEAKS A LOT TO THE
20:10:04 VIABILITY.
20:10:06 LOSING THESE BUSINESSES HURT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
20:10:08 SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
20:10:12 KEEPING THIS IN INTACT IS MY PERSONAL PRIORITY.
20:10:14 AND THE PARCEL OF LAND FOR THE APARTMENTS WILL HAVE
20:10:17 ONLY ACCESS FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM OAKELLAR ROAD
20:10:18 WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
20:10:21 I LOOKED EVERYWHERE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND SPOKE TO
20:10:24 RESIDENTS FOR OVER 15 YEARS AND I CANNOT FIND ONE
20:10:26 EXAMPLE OF A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS THEIR
20:10:30 MAIN ACCESS TO AND FROM A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
20:10:33 EVERY OTHER COMPLEX HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO A MAIN LOAN
20:10:36 AND TRAFFIC TO FLOW ON TO AND OFF OF A ROAD DESIGNATED
20:10:37 FOR HIGH TRAFFIC.
20:10:42 THERE IS NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON ANY OF THE OUTBOUND ROADS
20:10:44 FURTHER CREATING TRAFFIC WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD STOP
20:10:45 SIGN.
20:10:49 THE BUSINESSES ON THIS PARCEL AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
20:10:52 MENTION READY MOSTLY ACCESSED BY GANDY BOULEVARD AND WE
20:10:56 DO NOT CONSIDER THE CONCERNS OF THIS PROJECT IF IT
20:10:59 PASSES AS IT IS PROPOSED.
20:11:03 THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN TAMPA, WALKING, BIKING HAVE
20:11:07 TO APPROVE AND WE KNEE FOR DECADES.
20:11:09 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PART OF THIS ISSUE BECAUSE ZERO
20:11:12 SIDEWALKS RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
20:11:16 AND FURTHER INCREASING OUR CONCERN AND ADDING 400-PLUS
20:11:18 VEHICLES RESIDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO ACCESS TO
20:11:22 GANDY OR WEST SHORE WITHOUT USING RESIDENTIAL.
20:11:26 LASTLY TWO SPECIFIC VARIANCES THAT THE DEVELOPER IS
20:11:29 ASKING FOR APPROVAL THAT FURTHER ELEVATES MY CONCERN IN
20:11:31 WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO FOR THE PROJECT.
20:11:34 ASKING FOR A REDUCTION OF REQUIRED PARKING PUTS
20:11:37 VISITORS TO THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX NEEDING TO PARK
20:11:39 THEIR VEHICLES ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS WHERE THERE ARE
20:11:40 NO SIDEWALKS.
20:11:43 SECONDLY, REDUCTION OF GREEN SPACE, WHICH I JUST FIND
20:11:47 HARD TO BELIEVE IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, WE IN TAMPA CAN
20:11:50 ALL AGREE CREATING A MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY
20:11:53 SPACE HAVE ZERO DRAWBACKS OF IMPROVING OUR CITY'S
20:11:55 APPEARANCE AND VIABILITY.
20:11:57 IN THE END WE HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL REWORK THE
20:12:00 PLAN IN THE EXISTING LIFE-OFF OF THE PROPERTY.
20:12:03 HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ONLY PROPERTY WITH A LARGE
20:12:06 BUSINESS WILL NOT IMPROVE.
20:12:09 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
20:12:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE CONTINUE TO SARAH FRIDY.
20:12:15 >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
20:12:19 I AM THE RESIDENT THE OF THE 4600 BLOCK OF SOUTH
20:12:19 CORTEZ.
20:12:22 I LIVED HERE WITH MY HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER FOR 13 YEARS.
20:12:26 AND WE ARE LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ENTRANCE OF
20:12:29 THE PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE VISITOR ENTRANCE.
20:12:32 I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED FOR THE SAFETY OF BIKERS,
20:12:35 PEDESTRIANS, AND, IN PARTICULAR, MY CHILD AND THE OTHER
20:12:39 CHILDREN WHO LIVE ON THIS STREET.
20:12:42 AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEX.
20:12:47 THE DEVELOPER'S TRAFFIC STUDY SUGGESTS DIMINIMUS IMPACT
20:12:50 AND MAKES ASSUMPTIONS OF CURRENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND
20:12:53 DOES NOT CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY IT FACES.
20:12:57 SOME OF US WHO LIVE ON THE 4600 BLOCK OF SOUTH CORTEZ
20:13:01 AVE COLLECTED TEN HOURS OF TRAFFIC DATA ON OUR STREET
20:13:04 NEIGHBORING THE PROPOSED APARTMENTS.
20:13:06 VERY FEW CARS PARKED ON OUR STREET THROUGHOUT OUR
20:13:07 OBSERVATIONS.
20:13:10 DURING MORNING AND EVENING RUSH SHOWER, DURING NONRUSH
20:13:14 HOUR, WEEKDAY TIME AND DURING WEEKENDS, VEHICULAR
20:13:19 TRAFFIC AVERAGES WERE UNDER EIGHTS PER HOUR.
20:13:22 YOU RECEIVED THIS DATA AS AN ATTACHMENT IN ANOTHER
20:13:24 RESIDENT'S E-MAIL TO YOU.
20:13:27 ALLOWING AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT ON OAKELLAR WILL
20:13:30 DRASTICALLY INCREASE OUR TRAFFIC AS OUR STREETS WILL BE
20:13:33 USED AS A CUT-THRU FOR THE APARTMENTS.
20:13:35 OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE REAPING THE BENEFITS OF THE
20:13:41 MAYOR'S COMPLETE STREETS, THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO
20:13:44 YOU APPROVE VARIANCES THAT WILL MAKE OUR STREETS LESS
20:13:44 SAFE.
20:13:48 THE BUILDING HAS A GANDY ADDRESS AND SHOULD BE GANDY
20:13:48 FACING.
20:13:52 THE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY NEW BE NEGLIGIBLE.
20:13:56 PROPOSE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE ON
20:13:57 PARKING SPOTS.
20:14:00 AS YOU KNOW, TAMPA IS ONE OF THE LEAST SAFE CITIES FOR
20:14:03 PEDESTRIANS AND BIKE RIDERS.
20:14:06 THE REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING SPOTS WILL DIRECTLY
20:14:08 IMPACT OUR STREETS AND OUR NEIGHBORING STREETS.
20:14:11 IN THE EVENINGS AND ON WEEKENDS, OUR CHILDREN VISIT
20:14:14 EACH OTHER'S YARDS AND RIDE THEIR BIKES IN THE STREETS
20:14:17 AS THERE ARE NO NORTH-SOUTH SIDEWALKS.
20:14:21 IF YOU PROVIDE THE VARIANCE ON PARKING, VISITORS AND
20:14:25 RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL USE OUR STREETS
20:14:26 FOR OVERFLOW PARKING.
20:14:30 PROVIDING OUR PARKING VARIANCE WILL FORCE OUR KIDS TO
20:14:32 WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET THAN THE SHOULDER OF
20:14:33 THE STREET.
20:14:36 THEY WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES BECAUSE
20:14:40 PARKED CAR ALSO POSE TOO MANY SAFETY HAZARDS FOR THEM.
20:14:43 PLEASE REJECT THE PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEX AND
20:14:45 REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE A SAFER PLAN THAT IS
20:14:48 CONSIDERATE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:14:50 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:14:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:15:00 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, OUR NEXT FIVE TO BE SWORN IN?
20:15:04 >>CLERK: YES, I HAVE TWO THAT ARE NOT ON -- ANNA
20:15:11 DEDIEGO AND CHRISTINA ROTHSTEIN, IF YOU CAN TURN ON
20:15:20 YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES, PLEASE.
20:15:31 AGAIN, ANNA DEDIEGO, IF YOU CAN TURN ON YOUR VIDEO IF
20:15:32 YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
20:15:34 >> I AM NOT HERE NOR PROPOSAL.
20:15:38 I'M HERE FOR ANOTHER ONE.
20:15:40 >>CLERK: OKAY.
20:15:41 WHICH ITEM ARE YOU ON FOR.
20:15:45 >> FOR THE 21-05.
20:15:49 THE 2511 WEST VIRGINIA LOCATION.
20:15:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS CONTINUED.
20:15:55 >>CLERK: THANK YOU, JUST STANDBY.
20:15:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE IS ON 21-05.
20:16:00 THAT WAS CONTINUED.
20:16:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE OCTOBER 14 DATE.
20:16:05 >>CLERK: ANNA.
20:16:07 DID YOU HEAR THAT?
20:16:11 >> 2511 WEST VIRGINIA GOT POSTPONED.
20:16:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
20:16:14 ATTORNEY.
20:16:17 IT WAS CONTINUED ON A MOTION OF THE APPLICANT TO
20:16:23 OCTOBER 14 OF 2021 AT 6 P.M. AND IF YOU ARE WITHIN A
20:16:25 NOTICE AREA YOU WILL RECEIVE NOTICE OTHERWISE IT WILL
20:16:26 BE POSTED.
20:16:31 BUT YOU SHOULD MAKE THE DATE PLEASE AND MARK IT OCTOBER
20:16:32 14 AT 6 P.M.
20:16:39 >> THANK YOU.
20:16:41 >>CLERK: ALL RIGHT, CHAIR.
20:16:44 GO AHEAD AND SWEAR ON THE ONES THAT ARE HERE, THANK
20:16:45 YOU.
20:16:54 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:17:02 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH,
20:17:07 THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
20:17:10 >> I DO.
20:17:11 >> THANK YOU.
20:17:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: START OFF WITH ANNA DEDIEGO.
20:17:23 I SAW -- I SAW -- SHE LOGGED OFF.
20:17:30 OKAY, GO TO -- TO STEPHANIE DOSAL.
20:17:33 I SEE --
20:17:39 >> YES.
20:17:45 >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, JL KOGGE AND MARCUS DOSAL.
20:17:50 >> MARCUS DOSAL IS THE HUSBAND OF STEPHANIE DOSAL.
20:17:54 I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK ON MARCUS BECAUSE HE CAN'T
20:17:59 BE HERE TONIGHT.
20:18:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MARCUS DOSAL.
20:18:03 >> YES.
20:18:05 MY NAME IS LANE ANDREWS.
20:18:09 I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MARCUS BECAUSE HE
20:18:10 CAN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT.
20:18:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS FINE.
20:18:13 GO AHEAD, SIR.
20:18:14 >> THANK YOU.
20:18:19 I AM THE OWNER OF SOUTH TAMPA JUJITSU AND MMA, A
20:18:22 SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN THE PLAZA THAT REALLY HAVEN'T
20:18:24 BEEN ADDRESSED VERY MUCH TONIGHT.
20:18:26 WE ARE A RELATIVELY NEW BUSINESS THERE.
20:18:29 OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A STRONG BUSINESS.
20:18:32 WE MADE IT THROUGH COVID.
20:18:36 AND JUST WHEN BUSINESS IS STARTING TO PICK UP, WE FIND
20:18:40 OUT ABOUT THIS BUILDING PROJECT GOING ON.
20:18:46 SO ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, THEY REFERENCED EARLIER LIKE THIS
20:18:49 APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL BE A PLACE FOR HEROES TO LIVE.
20:18:52 THE HEROES TRAIN AT MY GYM.
20:18:53 I HAVE FIRE FIGHTERS.
20:18:54 I HAVE POLICE OFFICERS.
20:18:56 I HAVE MILITARY PEOPLE.
20:19:00 WE HAVE KIDS FROM AGE 3 TO SENIORS AT AGE 65.
20:19:02 MANY OF THEM ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE
20:19:05 AFFECTED BY THIS.
20:19:09 YOU KNOW, THERE IS SUCH AN EMPHASIS ON BUILDING IN
20:19:09 SOUTH TAMPA.
20:19:12 AND THE CONTINUAL BUILDING OF THESE HUGE APARTMENT
20:19:14 COMPLEXES.
20:19:16 BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS MORE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES
20:19:19 THAT ARE FAMILY SERVICES, YOU KNOW.
20:19:20 BUSINESSES LIKE MINE.
20:19:22 BUSINESSES LIKE 81 BAY.
20:19:27 PEOPLE COME TO MY GYM NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY NEED A
20:19:28 WORKOUT.
20:19:34 THEY COME THERE BECAUSE IT'S -- IT'S A COMMUNITY, A
20:19:36 SOCIAL THING FOR THEM NOT TO MENTION ALL THE STRESS
20:19:38 RELIEF IT PROVIDES.
20:19:40 WE HAVE BEEN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN THERE.
20:19:41 WE MOVED IN 2019.
20:19:44 WE MORE THAN DOUBLED THE ENROLLMENT SINCE THEN.
20:19:46 UP 300 MEMBERS.
20:19:50 AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF
20:19:52 KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT TRAIN THERE.
20:19:54 I THINK IT IS AN UNFORTUNATE TIME TO TELL BUSINESSES
20:20:02 LIKE SOUTH TAMPA JUJITSU AND 81 BAY THAT THEY NEED TO
20:20:06 MOVE JUST WHEN WE ARE STARTING TO RECOVER FROM COVID.
20:20:09 THE BUSINESS -- ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES ABIDED BY THE
20:20:13 RULES SET FORTH BY THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THE EXPENSE
20:20:16 OF OUR BUSINESS AND OUR PERSONAL LIVELIHOOD TO ABIDE BY
20:20:20 ALL THE RULES OF COVID AND PRO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.
20:20:23 NOW IS OUR TIME TO GROW OUT OF THAT.
20:20:25 OUR BUSINESSES HAVE TO RELOCATE WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS
20:20:26 EXPENSE.
20:20:29 AND IN THE CASE OF 81 BAY.
20:20:31 I AM NOT EVEN SURE IF IT IS REASONABLE.
20:20:36 YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS PROPERTY COULD BE BETTER USED IF
20:20:37 SOMEONE WOULD INVEST IN IT.
20:20:39 THEY TALKED OF THE HISTORY OF LITIGATION WITH THE PRIOR
20:20:42 OWNER THERE.
20:20:44 IN THE 81 BAYSIDE.
20:20:47 I DO NOT THINK THAT THEY CURRENTLY OWN THE PART OF THE
20:20:48 STRIP THAT I AM IN.
20:20:50 I AM RIGHT NEXT TO GRACE CHURCH.
20:20:54 I THINK THAT IS STILL OWN BY GANDY PARTNERS IF YOU WANT
20:20:55 TO LOOK INTO THAT.
20:20:58 YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN ATTRACT RETAILERS HERE NOW
20:21:01 THAT THE PRIOR OWNER IS GONE GIVEN THE HISTORY OF
20:21:03 LITIGATION THERE.
20:21:07 SO I WOULD ASK -- OBVIOUSLY I AM STRONGLY OPPOSING THIS
20:21:07 MOVE.
20:21:10 AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME AND
20:21:11 HEAR MY THOUGHTS.
20:21:12 THANK YOU.
20:21:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
20:21:18 GO TO CATHERINE YANT.
20:21:21 >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING.
20:21:26 I AM A RESIDENT OF THE 4500 BLOCK OF COOPER PLACE.
20:21:34 COOPER IS ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN MANHATTAN AND WEST
20:21:34 SHORE.
20:21:39 AND WE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT A BLOCK FROM THE PROPOSED
20:21:43 ENTRANCE ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED.
20:21:49 AND WE STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED.
20:21:52 MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE HERE WITH OUR THREE SMALL
20:21:55 CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, WE ENJOYED OUR
20:21:58 FAMILY WALKS AND BEING ABLE TO GO OUT, TEACH OUR
20:22:01 DAUGHTER HOW TO RIDE HER BIKE ON THE STREET.
20:22:05 AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOTED THERE ARE NO NORTH-SOUTH
20:22:08 SIDEWALKS IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:22:12 AND WE WERE ABLE TO TEACH OUR DAUGHTER HOW TO RIDE HER
20:22:15 BIKE ON THE STREET BECAUSE, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID,
20:22:16 THAT SLOWDOWN IN TRAFFIC.
20:22:21 NOW WE ARE TALKING OF ADDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH,
20:22:24 AGAIN, THE ONLY INFORMATION ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS
20:22:27 PROPOSED, THE ONLY INGRESS AND EGRESS IS GOING TO BE
20:22:33 RIGHT ON OAKELLAR ABOUT A BLOCK FROM OUR HOUSE.
20:22:37 AND WHILE THEY HAVE USED TRAFFIC COMPARISONS BASED ON
20:22:43 WHAT APPEARS TO BE A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY FOR THAT AREA.
20:22:47 MR. DINGFELDER SAID THAT IT DOESN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE
20:22:50 THAT THEY ARE USING THE MINIMAL IMPACT OF TRAFFIC BASED
20:22:51 ON THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
20:22:55 AND THAT DRIVEWAY THAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO ON
20:23:00 OAKELLAR THAT EMPTIES ON TO OAKELLAR, I DRIVE PAST IT A
20:23:05 DOZEN TIMES A DAY DOING VARIOUS PICK-UPS AND DROP-OFFS
20:23:07 WITH MY KIDS AND IT IS HARDLY UTILIZED.
20:23:10 THERE ARE NOT MANY CARS THERE.
20:23:14 AND THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO CREATE A SIGNIFICANT
20:23:16 NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:23:20 THE THREE CROSS STREETS, THE EAST-WEST CROSS STREETS
20:23:24 THAT DUMP ON MANHATTAN AND WEST SHORE ARE FAIR OAKS,
20:23:26 COACHMAN AND OAKELLAR.
20:23:29 NONE OF THOSE STREETS HAVE A LIGHT.
20:23:31 AT MANHATTAN OR AT WEST SHORE.
20:23:36 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ON THOSE TWO STREETS, TRYING TO
20:23:39 TURN LEFT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.
20:23:42 THE SUICIDE LANE REALLY FEELS LIKE A SUICIDE MISSION
20:23:45 WHEN YOU ARE JUMPING OUT THERE IF YOU WERE TRYING TO
20:23:49 HEAD NORTH ON MANHATTAN.
20:23:51 AND WHEN IS WEST SHORE NOT BACKED UP.
20:23:55 IT IS GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT, AND
20:23:59 I IMPLORE TO YOU DENY THE REZONING APPLICATION.
20:24:00 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
20:24:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:24:12 WE WILL GO TO MISS JL KOGGE.
20:24:13 >> UNMUTING.
20:24:18 ANYWAY, HI, SIR, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM VERY
20:24:21 EXCITED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY PARTICIPATE IN LOCAL
20:24:23 GOVERNMENT AND I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR
20:24:25 THIS TIME.
20:24:28 AT THIS TIME, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE PROPOSED
20:24:31 REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
20:24:38 TO THE NEXT DOOR APP, YOU CAN SEE THAT JOHN LUM CARES
20:24:40 FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
20:24:44 WE NEED CHAMPIONS LIKE THAT, BUT TO THE BEST OF MY
20:24:46 KNOWLEDGE HE DOESN'T LIVE HERE, AND I DON'T THINK MR.
20:24:47 GREIS DOES EITHER.
20:24:51 SO I THINK WHAT THE LAST YEAR HAS TAUGHT US THAT IT IS
20:24:54 VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDER TO LIVE IN EXPERIENCES AND I AM
20:24:56 GLAD YOU ARE TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US AND TAKE
20:24:58 OUR E-MAIL NOTES PRIOR.
20:25:01 I WROTE IN MY NOTE ABOUT TRAFFIC.
20:25:05 SO I WILL REPEAT THE OAKELLAR CONCERN AND WHAT WE ALSO
20:25:09 NEED TO FOCUS ON THE CHANGE IN MANHATTAN TRAFFIC.
20:25:12 IF I DO, I WOULD -- I DIDN'T SNAPSHOT MR. MICHELINI
20:25:17 RETAIL IN THE MAP WHERE HE HAD THE APPLEBEE'S LOGO.
20:25:22 I CAN PULL IT UP BUT I DIDN'T SNAPSHOT IT AT THE TIME.
20:25:26 A LOT OF RETAIL OCCURS ACROSS FROM MANHATTAN.
20:25:30 IF WE TURN THIS INTO THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL BE MORE
20:25:34 PEOPLE MOVING FROM -- IN WALKING DISTANCE ACROSS
20:25:34 MANHATTAN.
20:25:38 ALL THAT AWESOME RETAIL -- A LOT OF IT IS ACROSS THE
20:25:38 STREET.
20:25:42 AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT MANHATTAN
20:25:43 MITIGATION.
20:25:47 JUST TODAY AS I TURNED RIGHT ON TO MANHATTAN FROM GANDY
20:25:50 THREE PEOPLE WERE CROSSING THE STREET NOT USING THE
20:25:51 CROSSWALK.
20:25:54 ALL OF THEM LOOKED TO BE UP IN AGE.
20:25:59 AND WERE MAKING AN ESTIMATE WHEN TO CROSS MANHATTAN AT
20:26:00 A SAFE TIME.
20:26:03 I SUSPECT THE ARGUMENT MIGHT BE THAT THE AREA WILL NOT
20:26:06 SUPPORT MIXED USE, BUT IN THIS LAST YEAR, I THINK WE
20:26:09 CAN'T RELY ON WAY WE USED TO DO THINGS.
20:26:12 ADDITIONALLY THE LOGIC ARGUMENT I HEARD IN FAVOR ARE
20:26:13 FALLACY.
20:26:15 THAT MEANS THEY SOUND GOOD BUT CANNOT BE PROVEN AT THE
20:26:17 TIME.
20:26:19 FOR EXAMPLE THE TRAFFIC STUDY PROJECTION THAT THEY HAVE
20:26:22 MADE IN INA ACCURATE HISTORICAL DATA THAT THIS
20:26:25 DEVELOPMENT WILL REDUCE TRAFFIC IS A NARRATIVE.
20:26:26 THAT IS NOT A FACT.
20:26:31 AIM FOR THIS TO BE AFFORDABLE AND AN ATTAINABLE, THAT
20:26:34 IS HEARTFELT HOPE, NOT FACT UNLESS THERE IS REGULATION.
20:26:37 MR. GREIS SAID HE MIGHT BE FORCED TO SELL THE PROPERTY,
20:26:40 THAT IS A NARRATIVE.
20:26:41 MADE $75 MILLION.
20:26:44 I DOUBT HE IS FORCE TODAY DO ANYTHING.
20:26:47 300 APARTMENTS WITH TRADITIONAL PARKING THAT REQUIRE
20:26:49 LESS GREEN SPACE.
20:26:53 FEELS LAZY AND DATED AND WITHOUT INNOVATIVE PEDESTRIAN
20:26:55 SOLUTIONS, IT ALSO SEEMS UNSAFE.
20:26:58 IN CONCLUSION I ASK THAT MR. LUM AND MR. GREIS EVEN FOR
20:27:02 A MOMENT ABANDON THEIR HISTORICAL LAND AND THINK OF THE
20:27:04 ART OF THE POSSIBLE.
20:27:08 INSTEAD OF LISTING THINGS COULD NOT WORK, THINK OF WHAT
20:27:09 COULD BE.
20:27:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
20:27:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE MISS CARROLL ANN BENNETT
20:27:15 NEXT.
20:27:19 >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANNE BENNETT, A LIFELONG
20:27:20 RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
20:27:26 UNITED RESIDENTS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
20:27:33 A GRASS-ROOTS GROUP ADVOCATING FOR GREATER DETERMINED
20:27:36 DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND YOU READ THEIR "NEW YORK
20:27:41 POST," FACEBOOK AND KNOW THEY ARE ADVOCATES OF TAMPA.
20:27:43 THEY SAY GROWTH HAS NO VALUE.
20:27:45 THEY SAY IF YOU WERE GROWING IN A WAY THAT INCREASES
20:27:47 QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT IS SMART GROWTH.
20:27:51 THAT IS WHAT URBAN TAMPA BAY ADVOCATES.
20:27:54 GROWING THE POPULATION IS MEANINGLESS IF IT DOES NOT
20:27:57 APPROVE PEOPLE'S DAY-TO-DAY LIFE.
20:28:01 GROWTH IS NOT AN END, IT IS A MEANS.
20:28:07 COMMERCIAL USE IN ALL APARTMENT PROJECTS, AND INCREASE
20:28:09 DENSITY AND WALK UP DESIGN ALONG SIDEWALKS.
20:28:12 THIS SMART GROWTH ENSURES THAT GROWTH IS CONTRIBUTING
20:28:13 TO A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE.
20:28:17 OPPOSING SMART GROWTH SAYS YOUR CONCERN PROPER
20:28:21 REGULATIONS OF PLAN ALSO HURT YOUR PERSONAL PROFITS.
20:28:24 URBAN TAMPA BAY SAYS WE ARE NOT AGAINST BUILDING MORE
20:28:25 APARTMENTS IN TAMPA.
20:28:27 WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS IN ORDER TO BLUNT RISING
20:28:32 HOUSING COSTS, BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE PROPERLY DESIGNED.
20:28:35 PROJECTS OF SIGNIFICANT SIZE NEED TO BE MIXED USE.
20:28:36 NO EXCEPTIONS.
20:28:39 DEVELOPER OBJECTIONS HERE ARE FRIVOLOUS.
20:28:41 THEY HAVE BEEN PLOPPING SINGLE-USE PROJECTS DOWN IN
20:28:43 TAMPA FOR SOME TIME NOW.
20:28:46 THIS HAS BEEN A HUGE CASH COW FOR THEM BUT DOES LITTLE
20:28:47 TO ENHANCE THE CITY.
20:28:51 THE CITY IS NOT A GUARANTOR OF DEVELOPER PROFITS AND
20:28:53 DESIGNED PREFERENCES.
20:28:56 PURELY PLANNED GROWTH LOWERS QUALITY OF LIFE.
20:29:00 TAMPA HAS GROWN DESPERATE TO IN DEMAND.
20:29:02 THAT MEANS IT IS TIME TO RAISE STANDARDS.
20:29:04 DON'T KEEP LOW DESIGN QUALITY JUST BUILD APARTMENTS
20:29:06 RAPIDLY.
20:29:07 THAT IS NOT BEING AFFORDABLE.
20:29:09 THAT IS BEING CHEAP.
20:29:10 THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
20:29:12 INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE SHOULDN'T BE REPLACED WITH
20:29:16 HOUSING UNITS BECAUSE INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE EQUAL JOBS
20:29:17 AND WAGES.
20:29:20 THERE ARE LOTS OF USES WHICH COLLECT NICE RENTS FOR
20:29:23 COMMERCIAL LANDLORDS FOR OFFICE SPACE, MEDICAL OFFICES
20:29:26 AND NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL WITH A LOCAL DRAW.
20:29:28 THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO OWN THE SPACE
20:29:30 THEMSELVES BUT SELL IT TO OTHERS.
20:29:34 THAT IS HOW SKY POINT'S COMMERCIAL SPACE HANDLED.
20:29:37 DEVELOPERS LIKE TO PLAY DUMB OR PRETEND THE MARKET
20:29:40 ISN'T THERE FOR COMMERCIAL USES WHEN THE TRUTH IS THEY
20:29:44 ARE LAZY AND DON'T WANT TO DO SIGNIFICANCE OUTSIDE OF
20:29:47 THEIR HIGH MARGIN, RESIDENTIAL ONLY COMFORT ZONE.
20:29:50 ONE COMMENTER ON URBAN'S FACEBOOK PAGE SAID IT BEST.
20:29:54 ENTITIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON EXTRACTING AS MUCH PROFIT
20:29:56 FROM THIS COMMUNITY AS THEY CAN GET.
20:29:58 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE GOVERNMENT FORCING THEM TO
20:30:01 TAKE A MORE THOUGHTFUL APPROACH FOR DEVELOPMENT OR NOT
20:30:02 BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE HERE.
20:30:04 THEY CAN GO TRASH SOME OTHER CITY.
20:30:07 THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE OURS UNLIVABLE ENOUGH.
20:30:09 THANK YOU.
20:30:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:30:15 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, WE HAVE OUR NEXT FIVE UP?
20:30:21 >>CLERK: YES, SIR, I NEED LIANNE BENNATI TO TURN OFFER
20:30:23 HER VIDEO.
20:30:25 >> UH-OH.
20:30:33 HOW I DO DO THAT.
20:30:35 >> LIANNE, JUST TURN ON THE VIDEO ICON.
20:30:38 YOU SHOULD SEE THE VIDEO ICON IN THE PANEL.
20:30:43 >> OKAY.
20:30:44 THERE WE GO.
20:30:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
20:30:49 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:30:51 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH,
20:30:54 THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
20:30:55 >> YES, I DO.
20:30:55 >> I DO.
20:30:57 >> I DO.
20:31:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, START OFF WITH HIS JEAN
20:31:07 STROHMEYER.
20:31:14 GOT YOU ON MUTE.
20:31:15 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
20:31:18 DO A SOUND CHECK?
20:31:18 OKAY.
20:31:24 HI, MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, THE GOAL OUTLINED IN
20:31:28 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND USE WAS FOR SOUTH TAMPA
20:31:31 PENINSULA TO REMAIN STABLE WITH NO NET INCREASE IN
20:31:34 POPULATION DENSITY.
20:31:37 I AM NOT SURE WHY THIS IS SO DOVE COMPREHEND AND
20:31:40 IMPLEMENT SINCE POPULATION ALMOST DOUBLED IN FIVE
20:31:40 YEARS.
20:31:43 THIS PROJECT DID NOT HAVE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE.
20:31:47 MR. LUM MENTIONED -- HE IS BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
20:31:51 BY MENTIONING NURSES AND TEACHERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS
20:31:55 AND THAT IS JUST TO YANK YOUR HEARTSTRINGS.
20:32:00 I LIVED IN A STUDIO EFFICIENCY WHEN I WAS 15 -- 15 AND
20:32:01 16 YEARS OLD.
20:32:04 WHEN I GREW UP I HAD NO DESIRE TO LIVE THERE AGAIN.
20:32:08 PROFESSORS LIKE TEACHERS, FIRST RESPONDERS WANT TO LIVE
20:32:10 IN MICRO APARTMENTS AND NOT HAVE FAMILY WHEN THEY COME
20:32:14 TO VISIT THEY HAVE TO SLEEP ON THE MICRO FLOOR?
20:32:16 FAILING BUSINESSES AT THIS SITE.
20:32:19 WELL, HOW LONG DOES A BUSINESS HAVE TO BE IN BUSINESS
20:32:20 TO BE A SUCCESS?
20:32:23 WHAT MAKES IT A FAILURE.
20:32:25 THE SKATING RINK WAS SET UP TO FAIL.
20:32:28 THEY DIDN'T HAVE REAL SKATES.
20:32:31 COME IN KICK, MAKE A BUCK.
20:32:33 THE BREWERY IS AN ASSET.
20:32:35 EVERYBODY LOVES A BREWERY.
20:32:38 COULD THOSE BUSINESSES IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION BE
20:32:42 FAILING BECAUSE THE OWNER LACKS INTEREST IN THE AREA?
20:32:45 HE HAS BEEN TRYING TO SELL, GET RID OF AND HAD A LOT OF
20:32:47 OPPORTUNITY BUT JUST HAVEN'T DONE IT.
20:32:50 I HAVE HAD -- HIS PEOPLE TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
20:32:52 MICRO APARTMENTS AND STUDIO APARTMENTS ARE NOT THE
20:32:53 ANSWER.
20:32:56 WE NEED THESE BUSINESSES FOR JOBS.
20:32:59 AT THIS PROJECT, THEY WANT YOU TO RETAIN LESS THAN 40%
20:33:02 OF THE EXISTING TREES ON THE SITE.
20:33:04 THERE ARE BARELY ANY TREES THERE ANYWAY.
20:33:07 THEY WANT TO PAY INTO THE TREE FUND AND BE DONE WITH
20:33:07 IT.
20:33:10 IT IS ALL ABOUT THAT BUT NOT GREEN SPACE.
20:33:12 BASICALLY REMOVE ALL THE TREES ON THE SITE.
20:33:15 THEY WANT HALF THE GREEN SPACE AND WHERE WILL THE DOGS
20:33:18 POOP OR WILL THEY NOT HAVE THAT.
20:33:23 THEY WANT ZERO EASEMENT ON OAKELLAR AND KEEP FILLING
20:33:26 THE PENINSULA, AND KEEP ON TAKING AWAY OUR GREEN SPACES
20:33:28 AND IGNORE THE CITIZENS.
20:33:31 I AND OTHERS INCLUDING THE EXPERTS ARE -- WERE TOLD
20:33:35 THAT -- POTENTIAL TO DIE IN OUR CARS WHILE EVACUATING
20:33:38 DO YOU REMEMBER A STORM SURGE EVENT.
20:33:42 THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB IS TO KEEP THE CITIZENS.
20:33:46 IF A MAJOR EVACUATION HURRICANE, STORM SURGE AND
20:33:49 ANOTHER 9/11 AND WE DIDN'T GET OUT, I AND OUR NEIGHBORS
20:33:52 WILL REMEMBER EACH ONE OF YOU -- EVERY ONE OF YOU BY
20:33:52 NAME.
20:33:55 AND YOU WILL BE THE ONES WHO KILLED THEM.
20:33:55 WILL BE YOU.
20:33:56 AND I AM TELLING YOU.
20:33:59 SO, GOOD NIGHT AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.
20:34:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:34:04 MISS DENAULT.
20:34:10 MISS DENAULT.
20:34:18 >> GOOD EVENING, KALI DENAULT, THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
20:34:21 AND FOR THE REASONS BUT FOR -- BUT EXPRESSED OUR
20:34:23 DESPERATE NEED FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
20:34:26 NOT ONLY DOES THIS REMOVE AMAZING LOCAL BUSINESSES FROM
20:34:29 OUR COMMUNITY BUT THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO
20:34:30 THE CAMPAIGN.
20:34:33 THERE ARE -- THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE TREES THEY WILL
20:34:37 ADD AND REDUCE PARKING SPACES PUSHING PARKED CARS TO
20:34:39 THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEXT DOOR.
20:34:42 THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THE BUSINESS IS GANDY
20:34:44 BOULEVARD PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT.
20:34:46 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A
20:34:50 LEGITIMATE TRAFFIC STUDY HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE
20:34:53 NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY OPEN THE ROAD TO OAKELLAR.
20:34:56 IT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS THAT IT WILL IMPACT THE
20:34:57 NEIGHBORHOOD IN A POSITIVE WAY.
20:35:00 NOT ONLY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE APARTMENTS, BUT ALLOW
20:35:04 PEOPLE TO EASILY CUT THROUGH FROM GANDY TO WEST SHORE
20:35:05 AND AVOID GANDY.
20:35:08 DUE TO THE SIZE AND NATURE OF THE EXIST BUILDING AND
20:35:11 THE PARKING ON-SITE A GREAT LOCATION WITH A LOT OF
20:35:13 POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE BUSINESSES.
20:35:15 WITH MARKETING EFFORTS IN PLACE COULD BRING WHAT OUR
20:35:18 COMMUNITY IS DESPERATELY LACKING COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
20:35:21 OUR COMMUNITY COULD USE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT $12,300
20:35:24 FOR A STUDIO APARTMENT FEASIBLE FOR A FAMILY?
20:35:27 ARE WE REALLY CALLING THAT AFFORDABLE.
20:35:29 ATTAINABLE, SURE.
20:35:31 PRACTICAL FOR A FAMILY, NO.
20:35:35 ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT NURSES AND FIRST RESPONDERS DON'T
20:35:39 HAVE FAMILIES AND WON'T NEED ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS.
20:35:41 PLEASE DON'T SET THIS PRECEDENCE FOR FUTURE REZONING
20:35:43 REQUESTS.
20:35:46 WHAT WAS FAILED TO MENTION YOU FIT FAILED DURING
20:35:47 COVID-19.
20:35:48 A GYM.
20:35:50 THEY COULDN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE IT.
20:35:51 THEY LOST THEIR MEMBERS.
20:35:52 OF COURSE, IT WILL FAIL.
20:35:55 I UNDERSTAND VACANT SPACES IN THE BUILDING BUT WE ALL
20:35:58 KNOW WE ARE INCREASING THAT LOW FOOT TRAFFIC THAT WAS
20:35:59 MENTIONED.
20:36:01 INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THIS AREA LIKE CRAZY.
20:36:04 WE WILL HAVE TO ALLOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO FREQUENT
20:36:06 WHATEVER BUSINESS CAN MOVE INTO THE SPACES.
20:36:12 ACCORDING TO, METRO TAMPA IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO
20:36:15 START A BUSINESS PER WALLET HUB.
20:36:22 LET US LET THE ABILITY TO DO SO 81 BAY IS NOT ONLY ONE
20:36:24 OF THE BUSINESSES OF ITS KIND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT
20:36:25 GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
20:36:27 IT SUPPORTS OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES BY HOSTING MARKET
20:36:28 NIGHTS.
20:36:30 IT HOSTS EVENTS IN SUPPORT OF VETERANS.
20:36:34 IT WELCOMES FAMILY WITH KIDS BY PROVIDING GAMES, FOOD
20:36:36 TRUCKS AND LIVE MUSIC.
20:36:38 CONSISTENTLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ENTERTAIN THE
20:36:42 COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A LOCAL OUTLET FOR PEOPLE TO GO.
20:36:46 LOOK UP AND DOWN GANDY BOULEVARD TOE AND FROM WEST
20:36:46 SHORE.
20:36:49 CONSISTENTLY MIXED USE.
20:36:51 I ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE SPACE AS IS, COMMERCIAL
20:36:55 INTENSIVE CONSISTENT WITH GANDY BOULEVARD.
20:36:58 DON'T PENALIZE THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST AREA.
20:37:01 DO NOT ALLOW 300 CARS TO FEED INTO THE RESIDENTIAL
20:37:03 NEIGHBORHOOD BY OAKELLAR.
20:37:11 I ASK YOU TO RELY ON THIS.
20:37:13 GUDES GO TO MISS BENNATI
20:37:20 >> I AM LIANE BENNATI IN MR. MANISCALCO'S DISTRICT.
20:37:24 I LIVED HERE FOR 60 YEARS AND WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH
20:37:26 WE IN SOUTH TAMPA PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF OUR
20:37:28 NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUALITY OF OUR LIFE.
20:37:32 I RECENTLY COMMUNICATED WITH A BUNCH OF SOUTH TAMPA
20:37:35 RESIDENTS AND I HEAR THE CONCERN REPEATEDLY.
20:37:39 STOP MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEXES INVADING SINGLE
20:37:40 FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOODS.
20:37:44 CITY OF TAMPA HAVE PLACED A HIGH PRIORITY ON THE
20:37:45 CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHY IT IS EMPHASIZED
20:37:51 COMPLETE -- REPEATEDLY IN THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:37:53 ALL OF SOUTH TAMPA WAS DESIGNED TO BE A SUBURBAN
20:37:54 NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:37:56 COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE FOR URBANIZATION.
20:38:00 SOUTH TAMPA IS A SUBURB AS YOU ALL KNOW.
20:38:04 ITS VERY IDENTITY IS A SUBURB FILLED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
20:38:05 HOMES.
20:38:11 ITS IDENTITY IS NOT MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:38:14 QUITE A QUITE EDUCATION IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
20:38:18 THE COMP PLAN CLEARLY STATES THAT SOUTH TAMPA IS
20:38:20 UNSUITABLE FOR HIGH DENSITY.
20:38:25 I BEG YOU, BE PROACTIVE NOT REACTIVE.
20:38:30 CONTINUE TO APPROVE THE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS, WE
20:38:33 -- THOSE WHO LIVE HERE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IF FOR
20:38:34 GENERATIONS TO COME.
20:38:36 THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND CONSIDERING OUR VERY VALID
20:38:37 CONCERNS.
20:38:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:38:41 JENNIFER SPARKS.
20:38:44 >> HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER SPARKS.
20:38:49 AND LIVE AT 23 WEST SPANISH MAIN STREET IN BEACH PARK,
20:38:52 AND I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION OF THIS
20:38:52 REZONING.
20:38:55 I DON'T LIVE RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THIS COMPLEX IS
20:38:59 PROPOSED TO BE BUILT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T
20:39:00 EFFECT ME.
20:39:08 I AM IN EVACUATION ZONE A IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
20:39:10 AND IF YOU CRAM MORE PEOPLE IN THE MOST VULNERABLE
20:39:13 PARTS OF THE CITY, YOU MAKE IT HARDER FOR ME TO
20:39:16 EVACUATE AND RISKING THE LIVES OF ME, MY FAMILY AND MY
20:39:17 NEIGHBORS.
20:39:21 THE ISSUE OF COASTAL HIGH HAZARD IS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT
20:39:25 GOVERNOR DESANTIS SIGNED TWO SEPARATE BILLS YESTERDAY
20:39:29 TO BETTER PREPARE FLORIDA FOR FUTURE FLOODING SEA LEVEL
20:39:29 RISE.
20:39:33 FUTURE FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE SHOULD ALSO BE
20:39:35 ISSUES THAT THIS COUNCIL IS CONCERNED WITH.
20:39:39 THESE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS COME INTO OUR CITY, MAKE
20:39:41 MASSIVE PROFITS, THEN LEAVE THIS COUNCIL AND THE
20:39:43 RESIDENTS WITH THE PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH.
20:39:47 IT IS SIMPLY TIME TO SAY NOT IN.
20:39:51 RECENTLY SHAWN COLLEGE ON THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
20:39:58 PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENTED A REPORT -- SORRY --
20:40:02 PRESENTED A REPORT ON BUILDING IN THE COASTAL HIGH
20:40:04 HAZARD AREA.
20:40:06 MR. COLLEGE SAID THE REAL PROBLEM WE HAVE IS EVACUATION
20:40:07 TIME.
20:40:11 HE SAYS IF YOU INCREASE THE POPULATION, YOU INCREASE
20:40:15 THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE GETTING IN THEIR CARS AND LEAVE.
20:40:20 HE SAID YOU CAN NO LONGER GET ALL THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE
20:40:21 COMP PLAN.
20:40:24 POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO BE SNUCK THEIR CARS AND IN
20:40:27 DANGER DURING A STORM SURGE EVENT.
20:40:29 POWERFUL STATEMENT OF THE DANGER WE ARE IN.
20:40:34 THE 2015 FLOOD ACT REQUIRES US TO ADOPT GOALS,
20:40:37 OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES AND STRATEGIES INTO THE
20:40:40 COASTAL MANAGEMENT OF THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
20:40:42 TAMPA HAS COMPLIED WITH THAT LETTER OF THE LAW BUT NOT
20:40:43 THE SPIRIT OF THAT LAW.
20:40:46 EVEN THOUGH EXACT WORDING FROM THAT LAW WAS ADDED TO
20:40:49 THAT COMP PLAN, NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO HOW
20:40:52 REZONINGS ARE EVALUATED.
20:40:54 THESE GOALS OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT ARE NOT PART OF THE
20:40:58 DECISION WHETHER A REZONING IS CONSISTENT OR
20:41:00 INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
20:41:03 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CLEARLY STATES THAT INTENSE
20:41:06 DENSITY AND URBANIZATION IS DIRECTED AWAY FROM SOUTH
20:41:10 TAMPA AND THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
20:41:14 I HOPE MR. MANISCALCO AND ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL
20:41:17 UNDERSTANDS HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO PUT HIGH DENSITY
20:41:22 MULTIFAMILY IN OR NEAR THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND
20:41:23 EVACUATION ZONE A.
20:41:27 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.
20:41:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:41:33 NEXT GO TO SYDNEY SPARKS.
20:41:34 >> MY NAME IS SYDNEY SPARKS.
20:41:38 I LIVE IN BEACH PARK WHICH IS MR. MANISCALCO'S
20:41:39 DISTRICT.
20:41:41 I HAVE LIVED IN SOUTH.TAMPA MY WHOLE LIFE AND I
20:41:44 STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
20:41:48 4465 AND 4467 GANDY BOULEVARD.
20:41:51 THE ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IS OUR PUBLIC
20:41:51 SCHOOLS.
20:41:57 AS A STUDENT, I ATTENDED MABRY ELEMENTARY, COLEMAN
20:42:01 MIDDLE AND GRADUATED FROM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
20:42:05 I KNOW FIRST HAND WHAT STUDENTS AND TEACHERS FACE WITH
20:42:07 OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS.
20:42:12 WHEN SIZES INCREASE TEACHERS AREN'T ABLE TO GIVE ONE ON
20:42:16 ONE INSTRUCTION AND CAUSES STUDENTS TO FULL FURTHER
20:42:17 BEHIND.
20:42:21 AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONFLICT, DETENTION AND MORE
20:42:24 DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.
20:42:27 OVERCROWDING LEADS TO LESS ACCESS TO SCHOOL EQUIPMENT
20:42:29 AND TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR SCIENCE LAB
20:42:31 AND COMPUTER LABS.
20:42:35 IT ALSO LEADS TO LESS SPACE ON CAMPUS WHICH RESULTS IN
20:42:38 SOME STUDENTS NOT HAVING A PLACE TO EAT LUNCH BECAUSE
20:42:40 NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THE CAFETERIA.
20:42:43 OUR SCHOOLS ARE SO OVERCROWDED THAT MANY STUDENTS EAT
20:42:46 IN THE HALLWAYS BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYBODY
20:42:51 TO HAVE SEAT IN THE CAFETERIA AND SOME SCHOOLS HAVE TO
20:42:54 SERVE LUNCH AT 10:30 FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE AN ABILITY TO
20:42:54 EAT.
20:42:58 AS A RESIDENT OF BEACH PARK.
20:43:01 OUR SCHOOLS ARE OVERCROWDED ENOUGH AND I THANK CITY
20:43:03 COUNCIL FOR SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE.
20:43:05 THANK YOU.
20:43:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:43:09 MISS MADAM DEPUTY CLERK DOWN TO THE LAST FIVE.
20:43:15 >>CLERK: YES, ANNA DEDIEGO IS STILL ON LINE AND NEEDS
20:43:18 TO ENABLE HER VIDEO AND SWORN IN AS WELL.
20:43:21 WE ALSO HAVE STEPHANIE DOSAL.
20:43:27 SHE NEED TO ENABLE HER VIDEO AS WELL.
20:43:29 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, MAY I.
20:43:31 >> MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
20:43:33 >>LUIS VIERA: CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DID WE
20:43:37 IMPLEMENT A RULE AND ADDRESS -- BECAUSE 9:00 -- HAVING
20:43:43 TO DO A MOTION TO GO PAST 11.
20:43:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, WE DID.
20:43:49 JUST TO LET EVERYBODY TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
20:43:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY.
20:43:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN CLARIFY AND WORKING WITH THE
20:43:57 CHAIR ABOUT THIS BUT YOU DID DO THAT BY MOTION TO AMEND
20:43:59 YOUR RULES, BUT YOUR RULES HAVEN'T BEEN FORMALLY
20:44:03 AMENDED YET, BUT CERTAINLY IT IS A SUBJECT THAT IS
20:44:07 WORTHY OF DISCUSSION IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DO SO.
20:44:10 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THAT IS FOR ANOTHER
20:44:10 TIME.
20:44:13 I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE BOUND BY THAT FOR PURPOSES
20:44:14 FOR TONIGHT.
20:44:16 IF NOT, THAT IS FINE.
20:44:19 I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT IN CASE WE HAVE TO VOTE.
20:44:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK ONCE WE GET PAST ITEM TWO, WE
20:44:30 MAY BE ABLE TO BEAT THE TIME.
20:44:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT,
20:44:34 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
20:44:44 >>CLERK: SAMANTHA SPARKS AND ANNA DIEGO ON THE LINE --
20:44:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CARROLL MOORE AND CHRISTINA --
20:44:53 >>CLERK: CAROL IS NOT LOGGED ON.
20:44:55 WHO IS THE OTHER PERSON?
20:44:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DANA GORDON.
20:45:02 >>CLERK: THAT TNI IS WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW.
20:45:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHRISTINA ROTHSTEIN.
20:45:09 >>CLERK: SHE WAS THE ONE ON FOR ANOTHER ITEM.
20:45:10 SO WE ARE SET.
20:45:10 YOU.
20:45:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD AND SWEAR IN THESE TWO
20:45:16 LADIES, MISS DOSAL AND MISS SPARKS.
20:45:18 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
20:45:20 YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
20:45:25 TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
20:45:26 THANK YOU.
20:45:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS DOSAL.
20:45:32 >> GOOD EVENING ALREADY THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.
20:45:35 WE ARE OFF OF 4605 SOUTH CORTEZ AVENUE.
20:45:41 WE ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS 313-UNIT DEVELOPMENT
20:45:45 THAT IS LESS THAN 200 FEET FROM OUR FRONT DOOR.
20:45:49 WE HAVE 19 CHILDREN ON CORTEZ ALONE.
20:45:53 OUR CHILDREN ARE GROWING UP RIGHT NOW.
20:45:55 THEY ARE ALL UNDER THE AGE OF 10.
20:45:58 AND THIS IS AN EXTREME CONCERN FOR US.
20:46:01 SPEED BUMPS AND CROSSWALKS WOULD SOMEWHAT BE HELPFUL
20:46:04 BUT DOESN'T HELP THE PARKING RATIO.
20:46:09 AND THOUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCES, YOU KNOW -- IT IS A BIG
20:46:14 DEBATE WHETHER IT WILL BE ON OAKELLAR OR WHETHER ON
20:46:17 GANDY, THE CITY ENTRANCE, THERE IS THE POST OFFICE
20:46:18 RIGHT THERE.
20:46:21 WE HAVE HAD -- WE HAVE HAD A NIGHTMARE WITH THE
20:46:24 CROSSTOWN TRAFFIC BEING REDIRECTED AND THE CUT-THRU
20:46:27 TRAFFIC THROUGH CORTEZ ALONE.
20:46:30 AND IT IS JUST BEEN -- WE JUST -- WE ARE JUST NOW
20:46:34 GETTING A RELIEF WITH THE CROSSTOWN BEING OPEN, AND NOW
20:46:38 WE HAVE ANOTHER NIGHTMARE ON OUR HANDS WITH THIS
20:46:40 313-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
20:46:44 ALSO, INCLUDED IN THE PLANS WITH THE SOUTH TAMPA
20:46:46 JUJITSU BUILDING.
20:46:48 MY SON GOES THERE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
20:46:52 SO MANY OTHER KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT --
20:46:56 IT IS SUCH A PLACE FOR THEM TO HAVE -- YOU KNOW, LITTLE
20:46:59 EXTRACURRICULAR PLACE TO GO TO.
20:47:03 ANOTHER SMALL BUSINESS WE LIKE TO SUPPORT IS 81 BAY,
20:47:06 WHICH OUR FAMILY -- IT IS ANOTHER LITTLE OUTLET FOR US
20:47:07 TO GO TO.
20:47:10 IT IS JUST -- AND ANOTHER THING THAT WASN'T CONSIDERED
20:47:15 AND I APPRECIATE THE YOUNG LADY PRIOR TO ME IS THE
20:47:16 SCHOOLS.
20:47:18 WHERE ARE THOSE KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL?
20:47:23 MY SON -- YOU KNOW IT IS HARD NOW GET THEM INTO A GOOD
20:47:26 SCHOOL DISTRICT AND, YOU KNOW, TO BE PART OF A GOOD
20:47:27 COMMUNITY.
20:47:30 AND WHERE ARE ALL THESE KIDS GOING TO GO?
20:47:34 LIKE, THESE NURSES AND THESE DOCTORS, ARE THEY GOING TO
20:47:36 COME -- ARE THEY NOT GOING TO HAVE FAMILIES YOU?
20:47:38 KNOW.
20:47:44 ANOTHER THING, YOU KNOW, ON OUR LIST WAS, YOU KNOW,
20:47:48 JUST -- JUST -- JUST THE TRAFFIC AND THE SAFETY FOR OUR
20:47:53 CHILDREN AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
20:47:55 I HATE TO RAMBLE.
20:47:57 I COULD GO ON AND ON BUT THE MAIN CONCERN FOR OUR
20:47:58 FAMILY IS SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN.
20:48:01 LIKE I SAID 19 KIDS ON OUR STREET ALONE.
20:48:02 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
20:48:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
20:48:08 GO TO SAMANTHA SPARKS.
20:48:10 >> MY NAME IS AMANDA SPARKS.
20:48:14 AND I LIVE ON BEACH PARK WHICH IS MR. MANISCALCO'S
20:48:15 DISTRICT.
20:48:17 I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SOUTH TAMPA AND I FIRMLY
20:48:21 OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4465 AND
20:48:24 4467 GANDY BOULEVARD.
20:48:27 ATTENDED PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, AND I AM
20:48:31 CURRENTLY A GRADUATING SENIOR AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
20:48:34 WE HAVE HEARD MANY DISCUSSING TONIGHT REGARDING THE
20:48:36 ISSUE CAUSED BY THESE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES.
20:48:39 BUT WHAT I HOPE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THE
20:48:42 IMPACT DEVELOPMENT HAS ON OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
20:48:45 OVERCROWDING IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ISSUES
20:48:49 FACING OUR SCHOOLS, STUDENTS AND TEACHERS TODAY.
20:48:52 IT REDUCES STUDENTS' ABILITY TO PAY ATTENTION IN CLASS
20:48:55 AND LEAD TO INCREASES IN BULLYING AND SCHOOL VIOLENCE.
20:48:59 STUDENTS IN OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS LEARN LESS OR ACHIEVE
20:49:02 LESS WITH INSTRUCTIONAL TIME, LIMITED ACCESS TO HONOR
20:49:06 AND AP CLASSES AND LIMITED OR NO ACCESS TO VALUABLE
20:49:10 RESOURCES SUCH AS TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE LABS.
20:49:11 WHEN THERE ARE MORE STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM, THE
20:49:16 INCREASED NOISE LEVEL MAKE IT HARDER FOR TEACHERS TO
20:49:17 TEACH AND STUDENTS TO CONCENTRATE.
20:49:21 THINK OF THE VALUABLE TIMES THIS ARE WASTED AND LESSONS
20:49:27 MISSED WHEN TEACHER FOCUS ON CLASSROOM MANAGEMENT AND
20:49:28 NOISE CONTROL.
20:49:31 TEACHER BURNOUT AND MANY EXCELLENT TEACHERS ENDS UP
20:49:33 LEAVING THE PROFESSION BECAUSE IT IS NOT WORTH THE
20:49:36 STRESS THEY DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.
20:49:39 AS A CURRENT HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR AND RESIDENT OF BEACH
20:49:41 PARK, I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THIS
20:49:44 PROPERTY TO MULTIFAMILY.
20:49:48 ALL THAT MR. MANISCALCO AND THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS
20:49:51 WILL SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS RESIDENTS IN
20:49:51 SOUTH TAMPA.
20:49:52 THANK YOU.
20:49:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, I SAW YOUR HAND.
20:49:58 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
20:50:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW THE SPARKS FAMILY AND I
20:50:02 DON'T KNOW HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE AND I AM NOT
20:50:06 COMMENTING ON THE TEXT -- ON THE COMMENTS THAT THE
20:50:10 SPARK FAMILY GAVE, BUT GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MISS SPARKS
20:50:12 THE MOTHER FOR RAISING TWO GREAT DAUGHTERS WHO ARE
20:50:17 WILLING TO STAY UP LATE AND TALK ON CIVIC ISSUES.
20:50:19 WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THE POISE YOU HAVE PRESENTED
20:50:22 TONIGHT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE, YOU AND YOUR STAR.
20:50:23 THANK YOU.
20:50:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
20:50:28 WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT?
20:50:34 >>CLERK: THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE LEFT IS ANNA DEDIEGO AND
20:50:38 HAS NOT ENABLED HER VIDEO AND I AM ASSUMING SHE DOESN'T
20:50:42 WANT TO SPEAK AND DANA GORDON IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN
20:50:47 BECAUSE HER DEVICE IS NOT COMPATIBLE TO GO TO WEBINAR
20:50:52 SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
20:50:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
20:50:56 GO TO REBUTTAL, MR. MICHELINI.
20:50:59 >> A NICE LONG EVENING WITH YOU FOLKS AND I APPRECIATE
20:51:00 YOUR TIME.
20:51:03 LET ME START BY SAYING FOR THE RECORD THERE HAS BEEN A
20:51:07 LOT OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE RECORD BY
20:51:10 VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS HAVE
20:51:14 THAT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REZONING.
20:51:17 THEY ARE -- SOME HAVE TO DO WITH CIVIL ISSUES.
20:51:21 SOME HAVE TO DO WITH SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AND ALREADY
20:51:24 GOTTEN LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL INDICATING THAT IS
20:51:25 HAPPENING.
20:51:28 WE SUBMITTED A LEGITIMATE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND
20:51:32 COORDINATION WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WHICH THEY
20:51:33 ACCEPTED.
20:51:36 THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO A
20:51:37 COMMERCIAL CENTER.
20:51:40 YOU CAN BUILD A REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER HERE WITH 20
20:51:45 RESTAURANTS BY RIGHT AND MAINTAIN TWO ACCESSES OFF OF
20:51:48 OAKELLAR WITHOUT -- WITHOUT A REZONING.
20:51:51 WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
20:51:55 AND THAT IS REGARDING DECREASING THE DENSITY AND GOING
20:51:58 FROM COMMERCIAL TO A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
20:52:01 WE ARE MEETING THE FLOOD ZONE ELEVATION REQUIREMENT.
20:52:03 WE CAN NOT INCREASE FLOODING.
20:52:05 THAT IS A TECHNICAL STANDARD.
20:52:07 WE CAN NOT INCREASE TRAFFIC.
20:52:10 THAT IS ALSO A TECHNICAL STANDARD.
20:52:14 BUT ANYWAY, WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMENTS AND THE
20:52:17 COUNCIL'S TIME, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU
20:52:19 CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
20:52:22 LET US GO BACK, WORK WITH THE STAFF.
20:52:25 LET US COME BACK WITH A PLAN THAT IS BETTER AND MORE
20:52:27 PALATABLE.
20:52:30 AND WE -- WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DO THAT.
20:52:32 REWORK THE SITE PLAN.
20:52:36 MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPONENTS OF THAT SITE PLAN ARE
20:52:40 CONSISTENT WITH THE STAFF AND I REALIZE THAT WILL
20:52:42 REQUIRE SOME TIME.
20:52:46 SO I AM ASSUMING THAT IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY FROM THE
20:52:50 COUNCIL TO GO BACK AND RESTUDY THIS ISSUE, THAT IS
20:52:52 PROBABLY PUTS US INTO OCTOBER.
20:52:55 SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS
20:52:58 MATTER UNTIL OCTOBER, AND IF NECESSARY, THEN WE WOULD
20:53:01 ALSO RENOTICE THE -- THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
20:53:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION BEFORE WE GO THERE.
20:53:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
20:53:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
20:53:14 BEFORE WE -- BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE CONTINUANCE, THE
20:53:23 QUESTION I ASKED EARLIER IN THE EVENING ABOUT CORDONING
20:53:25 OFF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH LITERALLY BLOCKING
20:53:32 OFF THAT -- THAT CURRENT ACCESS AND TAKING ALL THIS
20:53:35 TRAFFIC OUT TO GANDY.
20:53:38 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- A, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
20:53:40 LEGALLY DO WITH YOUR -- WITH YOUR EXISTING
20:53:42 CROSS-ACCESS.
20:53:44 B, IS IT SOMETHING YOU LOOKED INTO.
20:53:53 AND C -- WELL, GIVE ME A AND B AND THEN I WILL MENTION
20:53:54 C.
20:53:54 >> YES, SIR.
20:53:57 THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
20:54:04 THAT THAT CROSS-ACCESS ON THE WESTERNMOST DRIVEWAY
20:54:06 DOESN'T EFFECT ANY OF THE OTHER INTERNAL PROPERTIES,
20:54:10 FOR EXAMPLE, IT DOESN'T EFFECT GRACE CHURCH TO THE
20:54:11 NORTH.
20:54:13 AND I AM JUST NOT SURE.
20:54:17 I CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS EVENING THAT THAT IS
20:54:18 AN ISSUE.
20:54:21 AS THE OWNER HAS REPRESENTED -- AS REPRESENTATIVE FOR
20:54:24 THE OWNER, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE OF ELIMINATING THE
20:54:27 DRIVEWAY ON THE WEST SIDE.
20:54:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM HAVING TROUBLE WEST SIDE,
20:54:30 NORTH SIDE.
20:54:32 WHAT I AM SAYING ELIMINATE ALL OF THE ACCESS TO THE
20:54:36 LOCAL COMMUNITY AND JUST TAKE ALL OF YOUR TRAFFIC OUT
20:54:36 TO GANDY.
20:54:39 THAT IS WHAT I AM GETTING AT, STEVE.
20:54:40 >> YES, SIR.
20:54:43 WE ALREADY COMMITTED TO REMOVING THE EAST DRIVE, THE
20:54:46 WEST DRIVE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A
20:54:49 CROSS-ACCESS THAT CONTROLS THAT.
20:54:51 BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT.
20:54:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM SURE IT IS NOT A NOVEL
20:54:57 THOUGHT, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE BEEN, ONCE
20:55:01 AGAIN, READING THESE 70 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND MANY,
20:55:04 MANY OF THEM JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT WHO
20:55:08 LIVE BACK THERE ON CORTEZ, ETC.
20:55:11 , THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS THAT THEY DON'T WANT
20:55:14 THIS TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR
20:55:15 MONTHS.
20:55:21 SO THIS IS NOT JOHN DINGFELDER'S NOVEL IDEA.
20:55:23 >> I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN.
20:55:28 IF YOU WOULD PREFER, WE COULD -- WE COULD ASK FOR A
20:55:31 CONTINUANCE FOR COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST TO EXPLORE THAT
20:55:34 ONE PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT IT DOES INVOLVE A SITE PLAN
20:55:38 CHANGE THAT REQUIRES A CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT IT.
20:55:41 IT IS ONLY ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE A
20:55:45 CONTINUANCE FOR AT LEAST THREE WEEKS BECAUSE THEY NEED
20:55:53 TWO WEEKS IN TERMS TO -- RHINE VINE ON -- RYAN MANASSE
20:55:58 IS ON LINE AND HE CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH TIME FOR THAT
20:55:58 CHANGE.
20:56:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS NOT MY ONLY ISSUE BUT A BIG
20:56:07 ISSUE FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IMMEDIATELY TO THE PROJECT.
20:56:09 >> I UNDERSTAND AND WHY I WAS SUGGESTING AND REQUESTING
20:56:14 A CONTINUANCE TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE AND THEN -- IF YOU
20:56:18 HAVE OTHER ISSUE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SO
20:56:20 WE CAN ADDRESS THEM.
20:56:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
20:56:27 MISS WELLS, ARE YOU STILL THERE.
20:56:29 >>CATE WELLS: YES, I AM, MR. CHAIRMAN.
20:56:32 ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION FOR THE RECORD, MR.
20:56:37 MICHELINI IN HIS PRESENTATION MADE REFERENCE TO HOW HIS
20:56:40 CLIENT IS WORKING WITH MOBILITY.
20:56:44 AND LOOKING AT PROVIDING OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
20:56:46 WOULD HELP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
20:56:50 I SPOKE WITH MR. MICHELINI THIS WEEK A COUPLE OF TIMES
20:56:53 ON THIS ISSUE AND I AM SURPRISED THAT HE BROUGHT THAT
20:56:57 UP IN HIS PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE MADE IT CLEAR TO HIM
20:57:01 THAT WHATEVER NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDER WAY WITH MOBILITY,
20:57:05 THAT IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND AGREEMENT
20:57:08 THAT HIS CLIENT WOULD HAVE WITH MOBILITY AND WOULD NOT
20:57:13 BE PART OF THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
20:57:16 IT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
20:57:19 SO I WANTED COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR ON THAT POINT GIVEN
20:57:23 THAT WAS INCLUDED IN HIS PRESENTATION, BUT IT IS NOT
20:57:26 SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER IF YOU ARE
20:57:29 GOING TO TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING.
20:57:32 >> I APOLOGIZE TO ATTORNEY WELLS.
20:57:36 I WASN'T INDICATING THAT IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE SITE
20:57:36 PLAN.
20:57:40 IT WAS A STATEMENT THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM.
20:57:42 WE CAN NOT COMMIT TO OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
20:57:45 AND I THOUGHT I ALSO SAID THAT.
20:57:48 BUT THE DRIVEWAY THAT MR. DINGFELDER WAS REFERRING TO
20:57:53 IS ON OUR SITE.
20:57:57 GUDES MISS WELLS, I WANT TO GET BACK EARLIER THE
20:58:00 ATTORNEY THAT CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE PENDING
20:58:03 LAWSUIT TO THIS PROPERTY AND NOT KNOWING THE PROPERTY
20:58:06 OWNERS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- WHAT FLOOR YOU NEED TO GET
20:58:11 ON WITH THAT QUESTION, BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS, DOES YOUR
20:58:14 CLIENT -- ARE THEY IN PENDING LITIGATION OF THE
20:58:14 PROJECT.
20:58:18 DO THEY OWN THE PROPERTY BEFORE COUNCIL MAKE ANY
20:58:19 DECISION ON THIS.
20:58:22 >> THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED OUTRIGHT BY THE PETITIONER.
20:58:26 AND THEY HAVE THE TITLE AND THE DEED TO -- THAT
20:58:28 REFLECTS ALL OF THAT, AS WELL AS THE OWNERSHIP
20:58:29 DOCUMENTS.
20:58:33 BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE GETTING INTO A CIVIL ISSUE.
20:58:36 AND I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THAT BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD THE
20:58:39 CIVIL ISSUE REGARDING THE BREWERY.
20:58:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE IN LITIGATION, BASICALLY.
20:58:43 >> YES, SIR.
20:58:46 THERE IS LITIGATION INVOLVING THE BREWERY.
20:58:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS WELLS, WHAT IS THIS BOARD'S ROLE
20:58:53 -- WE HAVE A PETITIONER COMING FORWARD TO GET AN
20:58:56 APPROVAL ON A ZONING, AND THEY HAVE -- THEY ARE IN
20:58:58 CURRENT LITIGATION.
20:59:01 >>CATE WELLS: WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY THE
20:59:03 LITIGATION.
20:59:06 THERE HAS BEEN ONE COMMENT THAT THERE IS PENNING
20:59:08 LITIGATION WITH RESPECT TO THE OWNERSHIP.
20:59:12 BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING NOR WOULD OUR OFFICE
20:59:16 ROUTINELY CHECK PUBLIC RECORDS AND CONFIRM OWNERSHIP.
20:59:23 THE APPLICATION INCLUDES TWO AGENT AUTHORIZATIONS FROM
20:59:25 TWO SEPARATE PROPERTY OWNERS.
20:59:28 AND WE HAVE TO RELY ON THAT DOCUMENTATION AS EVIDENCE
20:59:32 THAT THE TWO ENTITIES THAT SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION
20:59:37 ARE, IN FACT, THE OWNERS, AND ARE AUTHORIZING JOHN LUM
20:59:41 AND OTHERS TO PROCEED ON THEIR BEHALF.
20:59:42 WE HAVE TO RELY ON THAT.
20:59:45 WE DON'T INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW THAT.
20:59:48 IF, HOWEVER, THE ATTORNEY FOR GRACE CHURCH BELIEVES
20:59:51 THAT THERE IS A GENUINE DISPUTE AS TO OWNERSHIP, THEN
20:59:56 THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT CAN BE HAD SEPARATE FROM
20:59:58 OUTSIDE OF THIS HEARING.
21:00:00 THAT HAS NOT BEEN RAISED TO DATE.
21:00:03 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ATTORNEY HAS REACHED OUT TO
21:00:07 ANYBODY WITH THE CITY TO RAISE THAT AS A QUESTION AS TO
21:00:09 WHETHER THIS APPLICATION CAN APPROPRIATELY MOVE
21:00:10 FORWARD.
21:00:11 YOU KNOW, ASKING MR. MICHELINI TO CONFIRM THE OWNERSHIP
21:00:11 ON THE RECORD, THERE'S NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE WITH THAT.
21:00:13 WITH REGARD TO LITIGATION BETWEEN THE OWNERS OF THE
21:00:17 PROPERTY AND TENANTS THAT IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM YOUR
21:00:22 CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, IT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN INTO
21:00:27 CONSIDERATION.
21:00:29 A DISPUTE WITH REGARDS TO THE OWNERSHIP OUTSIDE ANYTHING
21:00:32 WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE TONIGHT.
21:00:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST HAVE A CONCERN OF THE POSSIBLE
21:00:42 TAKING AND YOU DON'T HAVE CLEAR FACTS.
21:00:49 EVERYTHING IS NOT THERE, APPEARS TO BE NOT THERE.
21:00:53 LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN'T TONIGHT APPROVE THAT, OR GET
21:00:56 THOSE FACTS.
21:00:56 SO I'M KIND OF LEERY AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE ALL THE
21:01:05 INFORMATION WITH THE CHURCH ATTORNEY COMING IN HERE, I
21:01:07 JUST DON'T KNOW.
21:01:08 >>CATE WELLS: IF THIS COUNCIL WERE TO TAKE ACTION THIS
21:01:11 EVENING, IT WOULD NOT CONSTITUTE A TAKING, IN MY OPINION,
21:01:16 BECAUSE AGAIN YOU ARE RELYING ON WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
21:01:20 RELY ON THE APPLICATION AS FILED.
21:01:24 THEY HAVE SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION, IDENTIFYING WHO THE
21:01:27 PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, AND WE HAVE AGENT AUTHORIZATION TO
21:01:31 RELY ON.
21:01:32 SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S A QUESTION, THE
21:01:36 APPROPRIATENESS OF THAT APPLICATION, THAT WOULD BE FOR
21:01:37 THE CHALLENGING PARTY TO ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY.
21:01:42 BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IF COUNCIL WERE TO TAKE ACTION
21:01:45 THIS EVENING THAT IT WOULD CONSTITUTE A TAKING OF THAT
21:01:49 BASED UPON THE ALLEGATIONS.
21:01:51 AT THIS POINT THEY ARE JUST ALLEGATIONS THAT SOME ENTITY,
21:01:57 UNIFIED AS THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, AND THERE'S
21:02:01 PENDING LITIGATION.
21:02:02 AT THIS POINT, AS LONG AS THE SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN
21:02:06 SUBMITTED FOR THE PROPERTY, THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE
21:02:10 APPLICATION, AND IN FACT THE TWO OWNERS OWN THAT
21:02:13 PROPERTY, THERE IS NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE ABOUT COUNCIL
21:02:16 MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION.
21:02:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS PLANNING COMMISSION STILL ON?
21:02:27 IF NOT -- THERE SHE IS, MS. MALONE.
21:02:32 I KEEP HEARING IN THIS APPLICATION THERE IS NO BUS LINE
21:02:36 ON BUSY GANDY BOULEVARD?
21:02:38 IS THAT CORRECT?
21:02:40 >>JENNIFER MALONE: OUR STAFF REPORT SAYS -- I AM NOT
21:02:43 HART.
21:02:43 I AM NOT A HART REPRESENTATIVE, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK
21:02:51 THE HART MAP.
21:02:52 BUT THAT IS MY PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDGE AT THIS MOMENT,
21:02:58 YES.
21:02:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: UNBELIEVABLE.
21:03:01 THIS IS GANDY BOULEVARD.
21:03:02 NO BUS ROUTE?
21:03:05 THANK YOU, MS. MALONE.
21:03:07 >>JENNIFER MALONE: YOU'RE WELCOME.
21:03:09 >>STEVE MICHELINI: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
21:03:12 SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO RESOLVE.
21:03:16 AND AGAIN I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS
21:03:19 HEARING SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THEM, BRING THE NECESSARY
21:03:23 PROOF OF OWNERSHIP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, RESOLVE
21:03:26 THE ISSUES REGARDING ACCESS.
21:03:31 OUR PARKING NUMBERS, WHEN WE SWITCHED THEM, AND
21:03:34 RECONFIGURED THE PARKING LOT, THEY DON'T MATCH WHAT'S ON
21:03:37 THE SITE PLAN THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS, AND I THINK WE
21:03:42 RESPECTFULLY WOULD REQUEST THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
21:03:45 MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, COME BACK TO YOU, GIVE US ENOUGH
21:03:48 TIME.
21:03:49 WE HAVE HAD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
21:03:51 WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE MORE.
21:03:53 AND TRY TO REACH SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE
21:03:57 HERE.
21:03:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SAW MR. MANASSE.
21:04:02 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
21:04:04 >>RYAN MANASSE: I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR
21:04:07 SCHEDULES ARE PRETTY PACKED SO I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR
21:04:09 THAT WITH A CONTINUANCE THAT -- A COUPLE OF CONTINUANCES
21:04:14 THAT WE ALREADY DEALT WITH TODAY, REZONING NIGHTS ARE OUT
21:04:17 UNTIL NOVEMBER.
21:04:18 AND THAT WOULD BE THE EARLIEST DAY I CAN STAY WITHIN THE
21:04:23 LIMIT AND PLACE ANOTHER HEARING, SO JUST FOR YOUR
21:04:27 REFERENCE, SIR.
21:04:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:04:30 >> JUST TO THE CONTINUANCE, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD
21:04:38 PUNISH THIS APPLICANT BECAUSE WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY
21:04:41 ALLOWED CONTINUANCES, BUT I WISH THAT WE COULD HONOR THE
21:04:44 RULE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT CONTINUANCES AFTER THE
21:04:48 PRESENTATION IS ALREADY STARTED.
21:04:51 BUT STAFF HAS ASKED US MANY TIMES TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF
21:04:55 TIME THAT WE ARE SPENDING ON ALL THESE THINGS, LIMITED
21:04:58 TIME AT MEETINGS.
21:04:59 IT SEEMS TO BE THE THING THAT'S TAKING THE MOST TIME IS
21:05:01 CONTINUANCES.
21:05:05 IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC, AND IF WE ALLOW THIS FOR
21:05:08 TONIGHT, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD REQUIRE NOTIFICATION, WHICH
21:05:13 MR. MICHELINI OFFERS ANYWAY.
21:05:16 BUT IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE WATCH, THEY
21:05:21 SCHEDULE, THEY COME OUT, THEY TAKE AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY
21:05:24 TIME, AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO CONTINUE, BUT THAT'S A
21:05:29 DISCUSSION INFORM ANOTHER DAY.
21:05:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, A WORKSHOP DAY AND TAKE
21:05:37 THAT ISSUE UP?
21:05:38 MR. SHELBY?
21:05:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE FINE, SIR.
21:05:41 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM GOING TO BE BRINGING -- IF IT'S
21:05:44 COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WE CAN BRING IT UP NEXT WEEK AT THE
21:05:46 REGULAR MEETING AND RENEW THAT.
21:05:48 WE CAN EVEN ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF THINGS THAT WILL BE
21:05:50 ADDRESSED IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE DURING THE
21:05:52 REVISION OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
21:05:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR?
21:06:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH THE CONSENSUS.
21:06:03 I FEEL THAT MR. CARLSON AND YOURSELF AND OTHERS,
21:06:06 CONTINUATION IS ONE THING, BUT THINK IF WE DO CONTINUES
21:06:09 THIS, WE OUGHT TO PUT A TIME LIMIT.
21:06:12 WE HAVE ALREADY HAD DOCUMENTATION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
21:06:14 AND THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED THE MOST, AND WE SHOULD KEEP
21:06:17 IT TO TWO OR THREE ITEMS, OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT WE
21:06:20 SHOULD GIVE MORE THAN 15 OR 20 MINUTES TO EACH SIDE.
21:06:23 ONE SIDE GETS A COUPLE OF SPOKESPERSONS, AND THEY HAVE
21:06:28 VERY WELL-SPOKEN INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SPOKEN TONIGHT AND
21:06:31 OF COURSE THE PETITIONER HAS THE SAME 15 MINUTES, AND 30
21:06:34 MINUTES, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD DO IT.
21:06:37 I MEAN, THERE'S ISSUES HERE, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
21:06:40 AND IT'S GOING TO BE RESOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
21:06:44 I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYONE ELSE.
21:06:47 I KNOW THE CITY -- THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE HAD SO
21:06:50 MUCH WORK IN THIS DEPARTMENT THAT THEY CAN'T SWIM FORWARD
21:06:55 FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE THE TIDE IS COMING AGAINST THEM.
21:06:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:07:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE MORE COMMENT AS
21:07:06 AN ASIDE TO THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO THE CHAT FUNCTION.
21:07:09 A REMINDER TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THE CHAT
21:07:11 FUNCTION IS NOT TO BE USED TO COMMUNICATE SUBSTANTIVE
21:07:15 MATTERS DURING THE HEARING.
21:07:16 IF YOU HAVE TECHNICAL ISSUES, THAT'S ONE THING.
21:07:18 BUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO USE THE CHAT FUNCTION VERY WELL
21:07:23 RISK BEING BUMPED FROM THE PLATFORM AND BEING UNABLE TO
21:07:26 PARTICIPATE THROUGH THAT MEDIUM, IF THEY USE THAT CHAT
21:07:29 FUNCTION FOR COMMUNICATING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS OR AMONGST
21:07:32 THEMSELVES, WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR
21:07:36 ANYTHING OTHER THAN TECHNICAL PURPOSES OR PROBLEMS.
21:07:39 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC VERY CLEAR THAT THEY
21:07:42 PUT THEMSELVES AT RISK OF BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IF
21:07:45 THAT CHAT FUNCTION IS MISUSED.
21:07:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
21:07:50 MR. VIERA.
21:07:50 >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON CONTINUING
21:07:53 THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF TIME, AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR
21:07:55 THE POINT ANYMORE.
21:07:58 IF YOU ALL WOULD ENTERTAIN THE CONTINUANCE MOTION?
21:08:02 I SO MOVE.
21:08:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY VIERA.
21:08:07 MR. SHELBY.
21:08:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION AS TO THE
21:08:10 SPECIFIC DATE, THE SPECIFIC TIME, AND WHETHER THERE'S
21:08:13 GOING TO BE A RENOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:08:15 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD MOVE WITH RENOTICE, OBVIOUSLY, IF
21:08:20 I MAY, AND THAT THE FIRST AVAILABLE IN NOVEMBER, THE
21:08:23 APPLICANT IS AMENABLE WITH THAT.
21:08:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOVEMBER, CORRECT, SIR?
21:08:30 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR, CHAIR.
21:08:32 NOVEMBER 18th IS THE REZONING NIGHT PUBLIC HEARING,
21:08:35 AND 6:00 P.M.
21:08:38 AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE TAKING CASES IN THERE,
21:08:41 SO THIS WOULD HOLD UP ANOTHER SPOT FOR POSSIBLE CASES
21:08:44 THAT HAVEN'T MET THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATION YET.
21:08:46 BUT THAT IS THE NEXT AVAILABLE REZONING NIGHT.
21:08:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME CAUTION YOU ABOUT SOMETHING.
21:08:58 THE NIGHT THAT WE HAD TONIGHT, IT'S ALMOST GOING ON AFTER
21:09:02 9:00 NOW.
21:09:02 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET BACK ON THAT.
21:09:06 I'M SURE THIS HEARING HERE TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
21:09:09 PEOPLE SHOW UP.
21:09:11 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET
21:09:14 THEM IN, BUT AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE HOT TOPICS,
21:09:19 AND WE ARE HERE ALL NIGHT ON THE 58 H 18th.
21:09:22 >>RYAN MANASSE: CHAIR, I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE
21:09:25 THAT UNLESS CATE, CAN WE LIMIT -- WE DON'T WANT TO TALK
21:09:30 ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE CASES ALREADY.
21:09:34 I'M NOT SURE HOW THE CHAIR WANTS TO HANDLE THAT.
21:09:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WE ALREADY NOTICE THAT.
21:09:41 WE HAVE GOT THIS AMOUNT OF TIME.
21:09:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:09:46 >>LUIS VIERA:
21:09:47 >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:09:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU RAISE A VERY INTERESTING POINT AND
21:09:51 A VALID DISCUSSION AND RELATES BACK TO COUNCILMAN
21:09:54 CARLSON'S INITIAL CONCERNS, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS AS A
21:09:57 RESULT OF THIS CONTINUANCE IS IF THEY COME BACK WITH A
21:10:00 TOTALLY REVISED SITE PLAN, AND IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT
21:10:05 IN AND OF ITSELF, THEN IT RAISES THE DIFFICULTY OF
21:10:11 LIMITING PEOPLE'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT ESPECIALLY IF
21:10:16 THEY HAVE AN INTERESTS IN IT, A LEGAL INTEREST IN IT, TO
21:10:18 LIMIT THAT.
21:10:19 SO THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL RISK THAT YOU TAKE WHEN YOU
21:10:21 GRANT THESE CONTINUANCES.
21:10:23 SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY CONSIDER DOWN THE
21:10:25 ROAD.
21:10:26 >> MRS. WELLS.
21:10:30 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:10:33 THE ONE CHALLENGE WITH SCHEDULING IS WHEN THE
21:10:36 APPLICATIONS ARE BEING RECEIVED, THEY ARE SO FAR IN
21:10:39 ADVANCE OF THE TENTATIVE HEARING DATE, AND AT THAT POINT
21:10:42 IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR STAFF TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE
21:10:46 APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL.
21:10:51 SO I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION FOR CITY
21:10:55 COUNCIL, AND I AGREE THAT IT REQUIRES FURTHER ATTENTION,
21:10:58 BUT TO ASK STAFF TO KEEP THE AGENDA LIGHT ON A CERTAIN
21:11:05 EVENING, UNTIL WE GET CLOSE TO THAT EVENING, AND THE
21:11:09 HEARINGS ARE ALREADY SET, THE APPLICATIONS ARE ALREADY
21:11:12 SET, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO TELL WHAT KIND OF PUBLIC
21:11:15 PARTICIPATION YOU ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE.
21:11:20 SO IT'S A WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE HAVING, AND
21:11:27 I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY ANSWER THIS EVENING HOW TO
21:11:30 MANAGE THE AGENDA.
21:11:31 BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH YOUR REQUEST, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:11:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU HAVE ON THE
21:11:41 18th?
21:11:42 >>RYAN MANASSE: CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE, BUT NOVEMBER
21:11:45 DOESN'T HAVE AN APPLICATION DEADLINE UNTIL JULY 26th.
21:11:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH YOU, WHAT MR. MANASSE
21:11:53 WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS.
21:11:54 I WOULD IMAGINE FOR CONTINUATION, SOMEONE WHO IS IN THE
21:11:59 MODE OF APPLYING MAY BE THE ONE TO SELECT THAT.
21:12:04 SO I AM NOT ANSWERING FOR THEM.
21:12:05 I AM JUST SAYING REALITY IS, IF WE GO TO A CERTAIN LIMIT
21:12:09 AND SOMEONE PASSES THAT LIMIT, THEN WHOEVER IS THE ONE
21:12:12 THAT GOT LEFT OUT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN.
21:12:14 SO WE HAVE CONTINUATIONS.
21:12:17 I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.
21:12:19 I AM JUST SAYING IN GENERAL.
21:12:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANASSE.
21:12:24 >>RYAN MANASSE: JUST TO BE CLEAR, TOO, IF THERE IS A
21:12:28 POSSIBLE MOTION TO CONTINUE, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR,
21:12:31 BECAUSE I THINK MR. SHELBY STATED IT AS WELL, THE
21:12:34 APPLICANT EXPECTED TO REDESIGN THE SITE AND RESUBMIT
21:12:37 BECAUSE TYPICALLY BACK TO THE ARC REVIEW.
21:12:42 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT I PRESENTED
21:12:44 BEFORE, WE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT, WAS I HEARD DIFFERENT
21:12:47 THINGS FROM MR. MICHELINI'S REPORT, BY REMOVING AN
21:12:52 ACCESS, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHICH ONE.
21:12:54 I HEARD ABOUT NORTHBOUND BEING REMOVED.
21:12:56 I HEARD ABOUT 4-INCH TREES INSTEAD OF THE CODE REQUIRED
21:13:02 ONES.
21:13:02 I HEARD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LOCK-IN TO TYPES OF UNITS.
21:13:05 SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR MY SIDE, AS FAR AS IF THE
21:13:10 APPLICANT IS GOING TO RESUBMIT A SITE PLAN, I JUST NEED
21:13:13 CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT THEY ARE RESUBMITTING TO ADDRESS
21:13:15 THE CONCERNS THAT WERE PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT, OR IF THEY
21:13:18 ARE JUST RESUBMITTING A REVISED PLAN, AND THEY WOULD HAVE
21:13:21 TO RESUBMIT BY A CERTAIN DEADLINE IN ORDER TO STAY ON
21:13:24 TRACK WITH THAT NOVEMBER HEARING BECAUSE THAT STAFF HAS
21:13:28 TO HAVE ADEQUATE TIME IF IT TAKES TWO OR MORE REVIEWERS
21:13:31 TO MAKE SURE ALL THE REVIEWS ARE COMPLETED APPROPRIATELY
21:13:34 AND PRESENT A REVISED STAFF REPORT TO COUNCIL.
21:13:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK AT THIS POINT THE APPLICANT IS
21:13:40 ASKING -- IT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT, IT'S NOT ON US.
21:13:47 WOULD I BE CORRECT WITH THAT?
21:13:48 >> YES, SIR.
21:13:55 AND SOMETIMES IT'S CONTINUED FOR A SPECIFIC REASON.
21:13:57 SO IF MR. MICHELINI ADDRESSES THOSE FIVE ITEMS THAT I
21:14:01 OUTLINED AND RESUBMITS, THEN STAFF IS SAYING, OKAY, IT'S
21:14:04 ONLY GOING TO TAKE TWO OR LESS REVIEWERS, THEN WE DON'T
21:14:08 HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ARC REVIEW WHERE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL
21:14:13 PERSONNEL REVIEW.
21:14:15 IF THEY ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT AN EGRESS IT MAY BE OKAY,
21:14:19 BUT JUST PARTIAL STAFF REVIEWING THAT.
21:14:22 BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT
21:14:25 WAS TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, IF MR. MICHELINI CAN PRESENT
21:14:29 WHAT HE'S REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR, TO ADDRESS
21:14:32 SPECIFICALLY TO COUNCIL AS WELL AS STAFF, SO WE HAVE AN
21:14:35 ACCURATE RECORD TO BE RESPONSIBLE ONCE HE DOES RESUBMIT
21:14:37 THIS PLAN, NO TIMELY MANNER, SO STAFF CAN RE-REVIEW THIS.
21:14:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE IS A MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY
21:14:47 MANISCALCO.
21:14:51 ANYTHING YOU CAN DISCUSS, MR. MICHELINI, SO THE STAFF CAN
21:14:55 BE CLEAR?
21:14:56 >>STEVE MICHELINI: LET ME MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANY OF
21:14:58 THEM.
21:14:58 ONE INVOLVED THE ACCESS ON OAKELLAR TO BE ADDRESSED.
21:15:02 THE OTHER WAS THE REMOVAL OF BALCONIES ON THE OAKELLAR
21:15:05 SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
21:15:07 THE OTHER WAS TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE TREES FROM TWO
21:15:11 INCHES TO FOUR INCHES.
21:15:13 TO ALSO ADDRESS THE GREEN SPACE WAIVER THAT WAS BEING
21:15:17 REQUESTED.
21:15:19 THE PARKING WAIVER THAT WAS BEING REQUESTED AND THE
21:15:22 RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOT.
21:15:26 DID I CATCH THEM ALL?
21:15:31 RYAN, DID I MISS ANY?
21:15:32 >>RYAN MANASSE: THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT LOCK IN
21:15:39 THE --
21:15:40 >>STEVE MICHELINI: OH, YES, THE MATRIX ON THE
21:15:42 DISTRIBUTION OF THE TYPE OF UNITS.
21:15:44 AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
21:15:45 I THINK THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE NUMBERS THAT
21:15:48 YOU HAD VERSUS --
21:15:52 [NO ENCODER]
21:16:09 ONE FINAL COMMENT IS THERE MAY BE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE
21:16:19 DISCOVER IN THE PROCESS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED,
21:16:21 AND WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT OBJECTING TO RUNNING IT THROUGH
21:16:25 ANOTHER DRC, YOU KNOW, TO DEFINE AND REVIEW THOSE ISSUES.
21:16:31 BUT AS RYAN SAID, YOUR DEADLINE IS JULY, SO WE HAVE A
21:16:35 SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO ADDRESS THAT.
21:16:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR.
21:16:40 VIERA.
21:16:41 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
21:16:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: VERY BRIEFLY, COUNCIL, I WANT TO SHARE
21:16:45 WITH YOU, AND SPECIFICALLY YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT I DID
21:16:48 HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH ABBYE FEELEY TODAY
21:16:51 ABOUT THIS VERY SUBJECT OF YOUR NIGHT MEETINGS, AND SHE
21:16:55 HAS INFORMED ME THAT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY HAVE PICKED
21:16:59 UP TREMENDOUSLY AND SHE HAS INFORMED ME THAT YOUR
21:17:03 SCHEDULES PRETTY MUCH ARE NOW BOOKED UP THROUGH NOVEMBER.
21:17:07 SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, JUST TO INFORM COUNCIL, AND I
21:17:10 WILL WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND MS. WELLS AND MRS. FEELEY,
21:17:14 TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THE CHAIR TO DISCUSS THESE
21:17:16 ISSUES, IN ADVANCE OF BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE
21:17:19 THIS IS A CERTAIN CONCERN THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED BY BOTH
21:17:24 MS. WELLS AND MR. MANASSE TONIGHT AS WELL AS COUNCIL.
21:17:27 YOU RECOGNIZE THE ISSUE THAT YOU ARE FACING.
21:17:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
21:17:30 >>STEVE MICHELINI: JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE AGREEING
21:17:33 TO A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 18thALITY 6:00 P.M.
21:17:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
21:17:40 >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
21:17:41 I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WE WERE AGREEING TO THAT.
21:17:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND WITH RENOTICE AGAIN?
21:17:47 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WITH RENOTICE AND REPOSTING THE
21:17:49 PROPERTY.
21:17:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
21:17:53 ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
21:17:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
21:17:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
21:17:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
21:18:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
21:18:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
21:18:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO.
21:18:09 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT AND
21:18:11 DINGFELDER VOTING NO.
21:18:13 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
21:18:14 >> GENTLEMEN, ARE WE GOOD OR DO WE NEED FIVE MINUTES?
21:18:22 >> UP TO THE CLERK.
21:18:29 >> WE'LL TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
21:18:31 TAKE A BREAK.
21:18:34 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
21:19:24
21:27:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
21:27:14 ROLL CALL.
21:27:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
21:27:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
21:27:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
21:27:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
21:27:28 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT.
21:27:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 5.
21:28:00 MR. MANASSE?
21:28:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN, YOU ARE UP.
21:28:10 ITEM NUMBER 55.
21:28:12 OR JENNIFER?
21:28:16 NUMBER 5?
21:28:18 NOBODY CAN HEAR US.
21:28:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MANASSE?
21:28:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T.?
21:28:51 CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT?
21:28:54 MS. WELLS, ARE YOU THERE?
21:28:58 MS. MALONE?
21:28:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT FEELS LIKE THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
21:29:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, CAN YOU HEAR US?
21:29:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO?
21:29:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S AN I.T. PROBLEM.
21:29:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CATE, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
21:29:24 CAN YOU HEAR US, CATE? OKAY, NOBODY CAN HEAR US.
21:29:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN I.T. PROBLEM.
21:29:44 MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU RUN INTO THE HALL?
21:29:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE RYAN LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN.
21:29:55 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HELP US.
21:29:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T THINK MR. CARLSON CAN HELP US
21:30:01 EITHER.
21:30:01 I SEE BOTH LADIES RUNNING IN.
21:30:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S SEE IF ERIC IS --
21:30:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE TRYING TO GET I.T. TO SEE WHAT'S
21:30:19 GOING ON.
21:30:33 ERIC, ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT'S MEETING?
21:30:36 >> YES.
21:30:37 I AM TALKING WITH CTTV RIGHT NOW.
21:30:41 SO WE CAN HEAR WEBINAR BUT WE CAN'T HEAR CHAMBERS.
21:30:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE ANOTHER
21:30:50 FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
21:30:52 >> YES, PROBABLY GIVE ANOTHER TWO MORE MINUTES AND SEE IF
21:30:54 WE CAN GET IT BACK UP.
21:30:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:31:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
21:31:05 BACK IN RECESS.
21:31:06 (CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
21:31:11
21:32:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
21:40:19 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
21:40:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
21:40:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
21:40:24 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
21:40:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
21:40:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD JUST
21:40:33 RECOGNIZE WHEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON ALSO JUST JOINED FOR
21:40:37 PURPOSES OF --
21:40:39 >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
21:40:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
21:40:42 >>THE CLERK: PRESENT.
21:40:43 WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
21:40:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANASSE, ITEM NUMBER 5.
21:40:48 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
21:40:50 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 21-21.
21:40:55 IT'S FOR A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
21:40:58 AT 704 EAST LAKE AVENUE AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS
21:41:00 REZONING FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD FOR
21:41:03 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
21:41:06 I WILL DEFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU WOULD
21:41:08 PLEASE RETURN TO ME AFTERWARDS.
21:41:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE VOLUME IS A LITTLE
21:41:12 LOW, WHOEVER IS CONTROLLING THAT.
21:41:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T., WILL PICK UP MR. MANASSE.
21:41:18 MS. MALONE, YOU ARE UP.
21:41:19 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
21:41:25 REZ 21-21, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
21:41:29 DISTRICT, EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND YBOR HEIGHTS
21:41:33 NEIGHBORHOOD, ON EAST LAKE AVENUE, JUST EAST OF THE
21:41:39 INTERSTATE 275, AND THEN WE HAVE NEBRASKA AVENUE TO THE
21:41:42 WEST.
21:41:45 THIS IS RESIDENTIAL 10, THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN
21:41:47 THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
21:41:50 WHICH IS THE COLOR ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE IS THE OTHER
21:41:55 COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE PRESENT ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE.
21:41:57 THE RED COLOR IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, AND THAT ALSO
21:42:00 ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL.
21:42:03 THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS
21:42:10 APPROXIMATELY 1,000 FEET EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON
21:42:13 NEBRASKA AVENUE NEXT TO TRANSIT.
21:42:16 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION
21:42:19 ZONE.
21:42:20 AND THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS FLORAL
21:42:24 PARK, NEBRASKA AVENUE PARK, WHICH IS ABOUT A QUARTER
21:42:27 MILE.
21:42:29 SO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DOES PROPOSE THE REDEVELOPMENT
21:42:32 OF THE SITE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL
21:42:35 DWELLING UNIT AND OVERALL DENSITY OF 6 .74 DWELLING UNITS
21:42:40 PER ACRE.
21:42:41 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
21:42:43 RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
21:42:46 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE IN-FILL HOUSING,
21:42:49 AND WE DO FIND IT IS IN THE SAME LOT CONFIGURATION AND
21:42:54 COMPATIBLE WITH THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
21:42:56 AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT
21:42:58 PATTERN AND VISION OF RESIDENTIAL 10.
21:43:02 THAT DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
21:43:04 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
21:43:05 THANK YOU.
21:43:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
21:43:09 MR. MANASSE?
21:43:11 >>RYAN MANASSE: IF I COULD PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN.
21:43:14 IF YOU WILL LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THE WELCOME.
21:43:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SEE IT.
21:43:23 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, AGAIN ITEM 5
21:43:26 IS REZ 21-21.
21:43:30 THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU DOES PROPOSE TWO WAIVERS, THAT
21:43:33 COME FROM SECTION 27-240 AND ONE OF THEM IS TO INCREASE
21:43:36 THE BLOCK FACE AVERAGE FROM 15.26 AS MIRED FROM EDGE OF
21:43:43 PAVEMENT WHICH THERE'S A AS STATED IN THIS PROPOSED
21:43:47 WAIVER AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS TO REDUCE SIDE YARD EAST
21:43:50 AND WEST SETBACK FROM FIVE FEET TO FOUR FEET.
21:43:53 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY AGAIN
21:43:55 704 -- 704 EAST LAKE AVENUE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
21:44:00 CREATION OF A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOT A TOTAL LOT AREA
21:44:05 OF 6,075 FEET.
21:44:07 THE LOT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
21:44:09 IT IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY AND MUST COMPLY
21:44:11 WITH EAST TAMPA OVERLAY STANDARD, SECTION 240 AT THE TIME
21:44:15 OF FINAL PERMITTING UNLESS WAIVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
21:44:17 CODE SECTION 27-240 FOR THE RECORD STATES IN PART ANY
21:44:21 RESIDENTIAL LOT OF RECORD EXISTING AS OF JANUARY 1st,
21:44:24 2000, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
21:44:27 DISTRICT, SHALL BE CONFORMING AND MAY BE DEVELOPMENT WITH
21:44:29 ANY OF THE UNDERLYING PERMITTED USES FOR THAT ZONING
21:44:33 DISTRICT.
21:44:33 THE SUBJECT LOT DOES NOT MEET THAT CRITERIA, BUT TO
21:44:37 CORRECT SOME ENCROACH.
21:44:38 ISSUES FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE EAST, THIS PD IS
21:44:41 REQUIRED.
21:44:42 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MAY NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM
21:44:44 DENSITY ALLOWED BY THE ADOPTED CITY OF TAMPA
21:44:47 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS APPLICATION IS REQUESTING ONE
21:44:50 DWELLING UNIT.
21:44:51 THE APPLICATION REQUEST FOR THE LOT AS CONFIGURED TO BE
21:44:53 CONSTRUCTED WITH ONE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
21:44:57 STRUCTURE.
21:44:57 THE SITE IS LOCATED ONE LOT EAST OF EAST LAKE AVENUE AND
21:45:00 NORTH TALIAFERRO INTERSECTIONS.
21:45:05 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE NORTH 15 FEET, SOUTH 17 FEET,
21:45:08 STAFF RECOMMENDS THE SITE PLAN SHOWS LESS THAN 18 FEET,
21:45:13 AND THE REASON I PUT THAT THERE IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A
21:45:16 DIMENSION THAT WAS LESS THAN 18 FEET SO WE ARE REQUESTING
21:45:18 17 FEET.
21:45:19 THE EAST 4.5 FEET AND THE WEST 4.5 FEET.
21:45:22 THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS
21:45:25 35 FEET.
21:45:26 AND THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY ZONING DISTRICT RS-50
21:45:29 TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
21:45:31 RESIDENTIAL USES.
21:45:33 THE AERIAL ON SCREEN SHOWS, IF THERE ARE ANY LOCAL OR
21:45:37 NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE AREA WHICH THERE ARE
21:45:39 NOT, AND JENNIFER DID POINT OUT THAT THE INTERSTATE 275
21:45:42 IS TO YOUR WEST, AND ONE BLOCK TO THE EAST, AND THERE'S
21:45:47 LAKE AVENUE, AND THEN NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
21:45:49 THE SUBJECT PARCEL OUTLINED IN THE RED DASHED LINE.
21:45:54 THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE CUSTOMARY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
21:45:58 DWELLING ON THE LOT.
21:45:59 STAFF DOES SEE THE WAIVERS REQUESTED KIND OF REFLECT DUE
21:46:06 TO THE TREE BEING RETAINED HERE TO THE NORTH, AS WELL AS
21:46:10 THE ENCROACH.
21:46:11 ISSUE FROM THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS TO THE EAST.
21:46:15 THAT PROPERTY BEING CONSTRUCTED BACK IN THE 1922 TIME
21:46:18 FRAME.
21:46:21 SOME SUBJECT SITES PHOTOS, YOU CAN SEE THE POSTING OF THE
21:46:24 SIGN.
21:46:24 YOU CAN SEE THOSE TREES REFERENCED TO AS WELL.
21:46:28 THIS IS LOOKING TO THE EAST.
21:46:30 THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT.
21:46:32 CUSTOMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL
21:46:34 STRUCTURES, TO THE WEST I-275 OVERPASS, UNDERPASS AS
21:46:38 WELL, SOUTH SINGLE-FAMILY.
21:46:41 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
21:46:43 THE APPLICATION AND WE FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY
21:46:45 OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
21:46:48 URBAN DESIGN RELATED TO THE BACK WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED
21:46:51 FROM THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY.
21:46:53 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
21:46:55 APPLICATION FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST
21:46:57 BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
21:47:00 READING AS OUTLINED IN THE REVISION SHEET.
21:47:03 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IT MAY HAVE.
21:47:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
21:47:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A QUICK QUESTION.
21:47:10 MR. MANASSE, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE TREE,
21:47:16 AND I WILL BE LISTENING CLOSELY TO THE APPLICANT, BUT IT
21:47:19 WOULD SEEM STRANGE TO ME THAT -- AND THE ENCROACHMENT
21:47:26 FROM AN ADJACENT PARCEL CAN HAVE ANY IMPACT ON WHAT YOU
21:47:32 ARE DOING ON YOUR OWN PARCEL.
21:47:38 SO BUT FOR THE TREE, WOULD THAT STILL BE TRUE?
21:47:43 >>RYAN MANASSE: WELL, I WAS REFERRING TO THE SIDE
21:47:46 SETBACK REDUCTION, BECAUSE ON THE SITE PLAN THE ADJACENT
21:47:49 PARCEL IS GOING UP TO THAT ORIGINALLY PLATTED LOT LINE
21:47:52 WHICH IS MAKING THEM DECREASE THIS SIDE YARD SETBACK A
21:47:55 LITTLE BIT.
21:47:55 I THINK THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
21:47:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING?
21:48:01 I MEAN, IF THEY WERE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN THEIR OWN
21:48:04 SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEN YES,
21:48:08 THEY WOULD NEED A PD OR VARIANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
21:48:11 BUT IN TERMS OF MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS A 100 YEAR OLD
21:48:15 HOUSE THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO MY PROPERTY LINE, HOW COULD
21:48:18 THAT PUSH ME INTO A PD?
21:48:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: THEY ARE CREATING A LOT THAT'S -- AS I
21:48:24 STATED IN THE SUMMARY, IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR
21:48:27 THE LEGAL LOT OF RECORD UNDER EAST TAMPA CODE SO THEY ARE
21:48:30 CREATING THIS LOT.
21:48:31 SO THAT'S WHY -- THE OTHER LOTS TO THE EAST ARE ALL 48.5
21:48:36 AND THIS ONE IS REQUESTING 45 FEET.
21:48:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
21:48:39 SO IT'S THE DIMENSION OF THE LOT ITSELF, NOT THE
21:48:43 ENCROACHMENT FROM THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
21:48:46 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
21:48:49 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT FOR THE RECORD TO BRING UP THE
21:48:52 ENCROACHMENT BECAUSE WE DO FEEL THAT IT DOES PLAY A PART
21:48:56 WITH REVIEWING THIS AS WELL HOW WE ARE PERCEIVED, THE LOT
21:49:03 BEING ADJUSTED, THE SIZE FOR THE STRUCTURE.
21:49:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT'S THE
21:49:07 STAFF RECOMMENDATION?
21:49:09 >>RYAN MANASSE: INCONSISTENT BASED OFF THE URBAN DESIGN
21:49:12 COMMENTS, BECAUSE OF THE TWO WAIVERS, SECTION 27-240 DOES
21:49:15 NOT MEET THE CODE.
21:49:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
21:49:20 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.
21:49:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
21:49:22 ANYONE ELSE?
21:49:24 WE'LL GO TO THE APPLICANT.
21:49:29 KEVIN ROBLES, 2107 CHESTNUT FOREST DRIVE, AND I HAVE BEEN
21:49:34 SWORN IN.
21:49:37 RYAN GAVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD OUTLINE OF THIS.
21:49:44 LET ME ANSWER A FEW OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTIONS
21:49:48 THAT HE HAD.
21:49:49 THIS PD IS SOLELY TO ALLEVIATE THE ENCROACHMENT BY THE
21:49:55 STRUCTURE TO THE EAST.
21:49:57 THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS A RENTAL DWELLING WITH AN
21:50:02 ABSENTEE OWNER IN NEW YORK CITY, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN
21:50:07 CONTACT WITH HIM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, AND IF YOU WERE TO
21:50:14 REQUIRE THAT TO BE MOVED OVER, THERE'S ONLY TWO PATHWAYS
21:50:19 TO COMPLETE THAT.
21:50:20 THAT IS THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT, OR BY TAKING UP A CIVIL
21:50:25 MATTER WITH THE OWNER.
21:50:27 IT WAS MUCH EASIER TO ADJUST THE LOT LINE AND DO A PD IN
21:50:31 ORDER TO CREATE -- IN ORDER TO TAKE THE ENCROACHMENT OUT
21:50:36 OF THE LOT.
21:50:38 THIS LOT IS THE FINAL URBAN 360 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT.
21:50:46 THIS IS THE 95th UNIT.
21:50:48 AND THIS PROPERTY HAS A BUYER ON IT, ELIGIBLE BENEFICIARY
21:50:53 FOR THIS LOT.
21:50:57 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE TREE.
21:50:59 I THINK THAT WAS SOME TECHNICALITY ON THE FRONT SETBACK
21:51:04 IN ORDER FOR THE TREE.
21:51:05 IT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM 18 FEET, WHICH THE TRANSPORTATION
21:51:10 AND TRAFFIC CODE WOULD HAVE CAUSED US TO MOVE IT BACK TO
21:51:14 18 FEET.
21:51:15 I THINK RATHER THAN ADJUSTING IT PRIOR TO THIS HEARING
21:51:18 WAS, AND I BELIEVE MR. MANASSE WAS ALLUDING, WE PICK THAT
21:51:24 UP BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND MAKE THAT
21:51:26 ADJUSTMENT.
21:51:28 I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
21:51:52 ANY QUESTIONS?
21:51:53 YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR, DO WE?
21:51:55 >> EVERYBODY LEFT AFTER THE LAST --
21:52:02 THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
21:52:05 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
21:52:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A QUICK QUESTION.
21:52:07 MR. ROBLES, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT PAGE 2 AND
21:52:10 I AM SURE YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
21:52:11 URBAN DESIGN SAYS INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE WAIVERS FOR THE
21:52:16 REDUCTION OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY
21:52:18 TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.
21:52:20 AND THE INCREASE IN THE BLOCK AVERAGE FOR THE FRONT YARD
21:52:24 BUILD-TO LINE.
21:52:26 YOU COULDN'T -- SO DID YOU WORK WITH THE URBAN DESIGN TO
21:52:32 TRY AND WRESTLE -- THEY USED TO SAY RASSLE ON THIS ISSUE.
21:52:41 >> NO, UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, THAT WOULD HAVE
21:52:47 THAT FRONT BLOCK FACE AVERAGE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN
21:52:51 SETBACK BACK AT LEAST 18 FEET TO ACCOMMODATE VEHICULAR
21:52:55 PARKING.
21:52:56 SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT THE BLOCK FACE AVERAGE
21:52:59 WAS.
21:52:59 YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO MOVE THAT FRONT FACADE OF THAT
21:53:04 HOUSE BACK TO A MINIMUM OF 18 FEET.
21:53:07 HOWEVER, THE BLOCK FACE IS LESS THAN 18 FEET.
21:53:11 NOT UNUSUAL FINDING IN A 1920s NEIGHBORHOOD PRIOR TO
21:53:16 VEHICLES.
21:53:17 AND ZONING CODES.
21:53:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO ULTIMATELY WHERE DOES YOUR HOUSE
21:53:23 START?
21:53:23 >> AT 18 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, OR WILL START 18
21:53:26 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, MAKING THAT MODIFICATION
21:53:30 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
21:53:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT'S TOO FAR
21:53:34 BACK?
21:53:35 IS THAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING?
21:53:36 >> UNDER THE URBAN DESIGN, THAT WOULD BE TOO FAR BACK.
21:53:42 BUT AS SOON AS URBAN DESIGN SAID THAT DOESN'T MEET BLOCK
21:53:46 FACE AVERAGE, IT'S TOO FAR BACK, THEY WOULD SAY, OH, BUT
21:53:50 TRANSPORTATION NEEDS A MINIMUM OF 18 FEET FOR FRONT
21:53:55 GARAGE.
21:53:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND YOU HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO PARK.
21:53:57 YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE SIDE.
21:53:59 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
21:54:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT FRONT PORCH?
21:54:03 GOT A FRONT PORCH?
21:54:05 >> YES, SIR.
21:54:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, YOU ARE A GOOD MAN.
21:54:09 MOVE TO CLOSE.
21:54:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL YOU NEED IS A HOUSE TO EXPAND
21:54:15 FROM 18 FEET TO 17½ AND YOU MOVE IT HOW YOU WANT.
21:54:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:54:19 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:54:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE.
21:54:25 >> SECOND.
21:54:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN I GET A MOTION?
21:54:31 MOTION TO CLOSE.
21:54:32 SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
21:54:35 ROLL CALL VOTE.
21:54:38 FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC --
21:54:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M SORRY.
21:54:45 CLOSE IT.
21:54:46 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
21:54:47 ANY OPPOSED?
21:54:49 WE LEFT OFF WITH MR. VIERA.
21:54:52 SO NUMBER 5.
21:54:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
21:55:00 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
21:55:03 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 704 EAST LAKE AVENUE
21:55:06 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
21:55:09 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
21:55:10 CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
21:55:14 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED,
21:55:17 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND THE PETITIONER HAS MET
21:55:20 THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND SHOWN ALL EVIDENCE, LET'S SEE
21:55:29 HERE, IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GOALS,
21:55:36 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS SEEN
21:55:39 IN THE STAFF REPORT.
21:55:44 AND THAT'S REALLY IT.
21:55:45 I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD TO GO.
21:55:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE REVISION SHEET.
21:55:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE REVISION SHEET.
21:55:51 MY APOLOGIES.
21:55:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
21:55:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
21:55:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
21:55:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
21:56:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
21:56:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
21:56:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM GOING TO VOTE YES WITH A CLICK
21:56:08 EXPLANATION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
21:56:11 I THINK ALL OF US LIKE TO RESPECT THE STAFF'S OPINION AND
21:56:15 THE URBAN'S REVIEW FOLKS OPINION, BUT IN THIS CASE IT
21:56:19 SOUND LIKE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDER IS BETWEEN A ROCK AND
21:56:24 A HARD PLACE IN REGARD TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF PARKING
21:56:27 VERSUS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SETBACK AND THEN YOU HAVE
21:56:29 GOT PERHAPS MAYBE A TREE, SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, I'LL
21:56:33 VOTE YES.
21:56:33 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
21:56:36 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
21:56:39 AT 9:30 A.M.
21:56:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. ROBLES, LET ME SAY SOMETHING TO
21:56:44 YOU.
21:56:45 WE HAD A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT DOMAIN, BUT I CAN TELL
21:56:49 YOU, PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, AND MY AIDE
21:57:01 THROUGH THE PROGRAM WITH DOMAIN HOMES, AND I AM GOING TO
21:57:05 SAY JOB WELL DONE.
21:57:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I THINK SHE STARTED THAT BEFORE
21:57:11 SHE WAS YOUR AGE, FOR THE RECORD.
21:57:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
21:57:16 >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GUDES.
21:57:18 IF YOU COULD INDULGE ME FOR 30 SECOND AS WELL, SINCE I
21:57:21 INDULGED YOU FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS FROM THE PREVIOUS
21:57:24 CASE.
21:57:24 [ LAUGHTER ]
21:57:27 YOU ARE TOO KIND.
21:57:28 I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.
21:57:31 YES, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE DID.
21:57:33 THIS IS THE FINAL URBAN 360 HOUSE IN EAST TAMPA.
21:57:39 NOW THAT WE HAVE GOT THE ZONING STRAIGHTENED OUT.
21:57:42 BUT POLITICIANS LIKE THE SPEECH OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
21:57:49 THAT SORT OF THING.
21:57:51 YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE FACING A CRISIS LIKE YOU HAVE
21:57:54 NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
21:57:56 IF YOU THOUGHT IT WAS BAD NOW, GET READY, GUYS.
21:58:00 GET READY.
21:58:01 I PROMISE YOU.
21:58:02 AND I COME UPON POLITICAL LEADERS LIKE YOURSELVES TO TAKE
21:58:08 THE POLITICAL CAPITAL, TAKE THE POLITICAL HEAT AND GO
21:58:11 FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HOUSES IN THE GROUND, HOMES,
21:58:16 DWELLINGS, FOR FOLKS.
21:58:18 IT IS IMPERATIVE.
21:58:20 I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO IS IMPORTANT.
21:58:23 BUT IT REALLY BEGINS WITH HOUSING AND PEOPLE COMMITTED
21:58:26 INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WITHOUT SOME PATHWAY TO
21:58:32 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT IS GOING TO GET TO A CRISIS LEVEL
21:58:35 SO QUICKLY, EVERYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS DO IS NOT GOING TO
21:58:38 MATTER, I PROMISE YOU.
21:58:40 SO I'M DONE.
21:58:41 I SAID MY SPEECH.
21:58:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT.
21:58:44 JUST A LITTLE COURTESY TO EVERYONE.
21:58:46 A 2-BY-4 USED TO BE A COUPLE OF BUCKS.
21:58:48 >> NOT ANYMORE.
21:58:51 >> IT'S $9.37.
21:58:55 AND THIS IS WHY I WAS GOING ON, AND REPAIR A LITTLE SIDE
21:59:00 ROOF OR WHATEVER WENT UP BY 20%.
21:59:03 AND THINGS ARE JUST GOING SKY HIGH.
21:59:05 I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT A SHEET OF PLYWOOD COSTS.
21:59:08 >> I KNOW WHAT THEY COST.
21:59:10 I BUY THEM EVERY DAY.
21:59:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN BUILDING A HOUSE NOW.
21:59:14 >> THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME TO ALLOW ME TO SAY THAT.
21:59:17 I AM PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
21:59:19 AND IT WILL BECOME HIGHER AND HIGHER ON YOU ALL'S AGENDA
21:59:22 AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, AND I WOULD NOT BE DRAMATIC IN
21:59:28 SAYING AT A CERTAIN POINT THIS IS GOING TO SLIP PAST
21:59:31 EVERYBODY ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE FOR CITIZENS OF
21:59:35 TAMPA, CITIZENS WHEREVER BUT CERTAINLY IN THE CITY OF
21:59:37 TAMPA.
21:59:38 GOT TO FIND A PLACE THAT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A PLACE TO
21:59:43 LIVE.
21:59:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
21:59:45 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
21:59:46 ALL RIGHT.
21:59:46 WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
21:59:51 I THINK MR. DINGFELDER HAS TO RECUSE HIMSELF.
21:59:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
21:59:54 AT THIS TIME, MR. SHELBY IS COMING FORWARD WITH MY
21:59:59 RECUSAL FORM.
22:00:17 THIS IS MY DISCLOSURE FORM 8-B, AND SPECIFICALLY THIS
22:00:20 MEASURE BEFORE US REZ 21-27 IN REGARD TO 3807 WEST SWANN
22:00:32 AVENUE. I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS
22:00:32 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
22:00:33 I AM ABSTAINING TO ENSURE FROM POTENTIAL BIAS OR
22:00:34 PREJUDICE TO AVOID AN APPEARANCE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
22:00:41 I HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED ON THIS PROJECT AS AN ATTORNEY,
22:00:45 AND THEREFORE, I AM NOT INVOLVED IN ANYTHING THAT'S GOING
22:00:49 ON RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST I PREVIOUSLY WORKED ON IT UP UNTIL
22:00:53 ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF.
22:00:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
22:01:03 MR. VIERA?
22:01:06 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS.
22:01:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:01:08 ANY OPPOSED?
22:01:10 THANK YOU, SIR.
22:01:13 ITEM NUMBER 7.
22:01:15 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, REZ 21-27.
22:01:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR.
22:01:32 CAN YOU GET HIS VOLUME UP A LITTLE BIT?
22:01:34 I.T.?
22:01:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PUT IT CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH.
22:01:41 >> GREAT.
22:01:42 GOING OVER CASE REZ-21-27, THE APPLICANT AND
22:01:46 REPRESENTATIVE IS DAVID MECHANIK.
22:01:48 PROPERTY ADDRESS THERE IS 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN
22:01:53 AVENUE.
22:01:55 THIS IS A PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL
22:02:03 MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS,
22:02:07 SLASH PROFESSIONAL.
22:02:08 I WILL NOW DEFER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
22:02:10 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
22:02:17 THE SCREEN SHOULD BE SHOWING.
22:02:24 THIS, IS REZ THE 1-27 LOCATED IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
22:02:27 DISTRICT.
22:02:28 THE CLOSEST PROPERTY IS ONLY 225 EAST OF THE SITE ON WEST
22:02:32 DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, NORTH DALE MABRY HEY QUAY IS A
22:02:35 TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
22:02:37 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE, RIGHT ACROSS
22:02:41 THE STREET FROM THE TRADER JOE'S GROCERY STORE ALONG
22:02:47 SWANN AVENUE, THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EAST
22:02:50 ALONG SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF
22:02:55 RESIDENTIAL USES, TOWNHOMES TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN THE
22:03:00 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED FURTHER WEST.
22:03:09 THERE'S RESIDENTIAL 20 ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE
22:03:11 DARKER COLOR AND THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IN THE PINK.
22:03:16 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 PORTION RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY THE
22:03:19 SUBJECT OF A PLAN AMENDMENT IN 2017 TO APPROVE THE
22:03:23 COMMUNITY MIX 35.
22:03:26 THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 IS SOUTH ALONG THAT SOUTH DALE
22:03:29 MABRY HIGHWAY, THAT COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY,
22:03:34 AND IT IS WEST, TRANSITIONS -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] TO
22:03:40 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
22:03:41 AS I STATED BEFORE, THERE ARE TWO FUTURE LAND USE
22:03:44 DESIGNATIONS ON THE SITE PLAN.
22:03:46 AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES COME WITH TWO LAND USE
22:03:50 DESIGNATIONS.
22:03:51 HOWEVER WE DID FIND THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITHIN BOTH,
22:03:53 BECAUSE IT MEETS THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE
22:03:57 RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE.
22:03:58 IT'S LOCATED ON A COLLECTOR, WEST SWANN AVENUE.
22:04:04 DESIGNATED COLLECTOR AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA.
22:04:07 WE ALSO FOUND THE DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN
22:04:10 ESPECIALLY THE SIDEWALK BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANTS.
22:04:14 WE ALSO REVIEWED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, AND IT IS WITHIN
22:04:21 THAT FLOOR AREA RESIDENTIAL COUNT FOR THE PORTION OF THE
22:04:25 BUILDING SO WE DID FIND IT CONSISTENT.
22:04:28 THE PROVISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WAS
22:04:31 CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE POLICIES.
22:04:33 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
22:04:35 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
22:04:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
22:04:47 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: CAN I PLEASE HAVE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN?
22:04:53 WONDERFUL.
22:04:58 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, CASE REZ 21-27.
22:05:01 PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE.
22:05:08 WE HAVE TWO WAIVERS REQUESTED HERE, SECTION 27-284.3.3 TO
22:05:13 BE REDUCE THE REQUIRED BUFFER ALONG THE WEST AND NORTH
22:05:16 SIDES FROM 50 FEET AND A 6-FOOT CMU WALL TO 6 TO 10 FEET
22:05:24 AND A 6-FOOT CMU WALL.
22:05:26 THIS TO BE MODIFIED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
22:05:29 THE SECOND WAIVER IS SECTION 27-284.2.5 TO REMOVE A
22:05:36 35-INCH NONHAZARDOUS GRAND LIVE OAK DUE TO ITS LOCATION
22:05:41 NEAR THE CENTER OF THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT.
22:05:44 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 3807
22:05:47 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
22:05:52 16 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
22:05:56 OF A 14,160 SQUARE FOOT TWO-STORY STRUCTURE WITH A
22:06:01 PROPOSED USE OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
22:06:04 THE SUBJECT SITE CONTAINS A TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF
22:06:07 APPROXIMATELY 26,515 SQUARE FEET, AND IS CURRENTLY USED
22:06:12 AS A CHILD CARE BUILDING ON 3807 WEST SWANN AVENUE AND
22:06:18 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON 3811 WEST SWANN
22:06:22 AVENUE.
22:06:22 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING ARE AS
22:06:25 FOLLOWS.
22:06:26 TO THE NORTH, 10-FOOT.
22:06:27 SOUTH, 25 FEET.
22:06:32 TO THE EAST, 10 FEET.
22:06:33 AND TO THE WEST, 10 FEET.
22:06:36 THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 45 FEET HERE.
22:06:40 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED TWO BLOCKS TO THE WEST FROM THE
22:06:44 WEST SWANN AVENUE SOUTH DALE MABRY INTERSECTION.
22:06:48 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WEST SWANN AVENUE, THE PROPOSED
22:06:52 PLAN SHOWS DUAL VEHICLE ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPERTY ON
22:06:56 WEST SWANN AVENUE.
22:06:58 THE PROPOSED USE REQUIRES 47 PARKING SPACES, AND A 38
22:07:03 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED HERE.
22:07:05 THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
22:07:08 ATTACHED USE ZONED PD, FILE NUMBER ZO 2-18.
22:07:15 AND A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DETACHED USE, ZONED
22:07:19 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO THE NORTH.
22:07:22 COMMERCIAL USE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO THE SOUTH
22:07:24 AND EAST, AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DETACHED USES
22:07:29 ZONED RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST.
22:07:38 THE OVERHEAD VIEW YOU CAN SEE MY THE PROPERTY WHERE MY
22:07:41 CURSOR IS, IN RED, THE TWO LOTS.
22:07:43 AS YOU LOOK AROUND THE AREA FOR ANY HISTORICAL PROPERTY,
22:07:47 THERE ARE NONE.
22:07:53 THE STRUCTURE IS SHADED IN GRAY.
22:07:56 AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN MY SUM YOU HAVE THE TWO ACCESS
22:07:59 POINTS HERE OFF WEST SWANN AVENUE.
22:08:06 WE HAVE THE ELEVATIONS HERE.
22:08:08 THE PROPERTY, THE SOUTH, NORTH, EAST AND WEST.
22:08:14 AND ALSO THE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY.
22:08:15 THE CURRENT SITE AS WE STATED AT 3807 CHILD CARE, AND TO
22:08:21 THE SOUTH OF THE SITE YOU HAVE TRADER JOE'S.
22:08:24 BEHIND THE SITE THERE'S NORTH.
22:08:26 YOU HAVE CHILD CARE FOLLOWED BY RESIDENTIAL.
22:08:33 TO THE WEST OF THE SITE DOWN WEST SWANN AND TO THE EAST
22:08:36 ENTERING THE INTERSECTION TO SOUTH DALE MABRY.
22:08:40 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
22:08:42 THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
22:08:45 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
22:08:49 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
22:08:51 WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT BELOW AND APPROVE THE
22:08:54 APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST
22:08:58 BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
22:09:01 READING OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
22:09:04 THANK YOU.
22:09:05 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE GLAD TO HELP YOU OUT.
22:09:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
22:09:13 HEARING NONE, THE APPLICANT?
22:09:18 >>DAVID MECHANIK: CAN YOU HEAR ME, COUNCIL MEMBERS?
22:09:21 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
22:09:25 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
22:09:27 >> I DO.
22:09:31 >>THE CLERK: THE CLERK'S OFFICE DID RECEIVE WRITTEN
22:09:33 COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
22:09:36 >>DAVID MECHANIK: COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
22:09:41 MR. SHEPAL WHO I THINK IS PRESENT AT CITY HALL, AND THE
22:09:51 PURPOSE OF THIS REZONING APPLICATION IS FOR MR. SHAHAL TO
22:10:00 LOCATE HIS COMPANY AT THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING
22:10:02 TO BUILD.
22:10:05 FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE
22:10:10 DETAILS, BUT WE DO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE AGREE
22:10:15 WITH ALL OF THE REQUESTED REVISIONS AND SHOULD COUNCIL
22:10:21 APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, WE WILL MAKE THOSE REVISIONS
22:10:24 BEFORE SECOND READING.
22:10:30 I WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE COUNCIL, MY CLIENT HAD TWO
22:10:38 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND AS A RESULT OF THOSE MEETINGS,
22:10:44 THE ASSOCIATION PROPERTY [INDISCERNIBLE] E-MAILED A
22:10:54 LETTER IN SUPPORT OF OUR REQUEST, AND WAS HIGHLY
22:10:59 COMPLIMENTARY OF THE DESIGN AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF
22:11:05 MOVING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:11:07 AND AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT THAT MEETING, MR.
22:11:13 SHAHAL, AT THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORS, OFFERED TO MAKE
22:11:18 THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH IS TO ENHANCE THE SCREENING OF ALL
22:11:24 THE NORTH AND WEST PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW
22:11:30 FOR WHAT WOULD BE INITIALLY PLANTED AS A 10-FOOT
22:11:36 EVERGREEN HEDGE, SPACED 8 FEET ON CENTER, TWO AND A HALF
22:11:41 INCHES IN DIAMETER.
22:11:44 AND SO THAT WILL BECOME A SUBSTANTIAL SCREEN FOR THE
22:11:53 BENEFIT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE NORTH.
22:11:57 AND I WON'T SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS, BUT I WOULD JUST
22:12:03 NOTE AGAIN THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF
22:12:07 THE DESIGN AS BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:12:15 I WILL BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE WAIVERS.
22:12:18 WE ARE ASKING FOR A FIVE-FOOT REDUCTION OF THE DISTANCE
22:12:25 FROM THE NORTH AND BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, REDUCTION
22:12:29 OF FIVE FEET.
22:12:33 [~DISTORTION~] HOWEVER, THAT REDUCTION IS MORE THAN
22:12:35 OFFSET BY THE -- OF MY CLIENT PLANNING TO INSTALL --
22:12:44 PROVIDE AMPLE [~AUDIO DISTORTION~]
22:12:50 WE ALSO ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~],
22:13:09 WITHOUT OUR PROPOSAL.
22:13:12 WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION RUSSELL OTTENBERG
22:13:24 IS PRESENT AND OUR ARBORIST.
22:13:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
22:13:39 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
22:13:41 ITEM?
22:13:45 >> JAYNE: THERE IS NO ONE TO SPEAK AT THIS MOMENT.
22:13:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY --
22:13:52 THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
22:13:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE BY MR.
22:13:57 MANISCALCO.
22:13:58 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
22:13:59 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:14:00 ANY OPPOSED?
22:14:02 ALL RIGHT.
22:14:04 WE HAVE MR. MIRANDA.
22:14:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ 21-27.
22:14:12 MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
22:14:14 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
22:14:16 GENERAL VICINITY OF 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE IN
22:14:20 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
22:14:23 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
22:14:25 CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD
22:14:30 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL,
22:14:34 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
22:14:35 AND BASED ON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
22:14:41 PROPOSED REZONING IS COME PARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
22:14:46 SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, A RANGE OF USES AND
22:14:51 CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER, POLICY 1.2.8, AND
22:14:57 OBJECTIVE 6.1.
22:15:00 ALSO, THE DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PROMOTES AND
22:15:05 ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
22:15:09 CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
22:15:12 NEIGHBORHOOD, PROPOSED USE PROMOTES SUSTAINABLE USE OF
22:15:19 LAND AND STRUCTURE AND THE WAIVERS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO
22:15:22 PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT AND UNIQUE AND THEREFORE IN NEED
22:15:25 OF WAIVERS.
22:15:26 THE REQUESTED WAIVERS WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE
22:15:30 WITH OR INJURY THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD
22:15:34 BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
22:15:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED ITEM NUMBER 7.
22:15:40 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
22:15:41 ROLL CALL VOTE.
22:15:42 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
22:15:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
22:15:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
22:15:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
22:15:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER:
22:15:53 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT,
22:15:56 DINGFELDER ABSTAINING.
22:15:57 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
22:15:59 AT 9:30 A.M.
22:16:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
22:16:03 I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 8 AND 9 WERE TOGETHER.
22:16:06 THAT LEAVES ITEM NUMBER 8, 9 INVALID.
22:16:13 IS THAT CORRECT?
22:16:15 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES.
22:16:16 IF WE CAN OPEN THEM TOGETHER.
22:16:17 THE REZONING WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON FIRST AND THEN THE
22:16:21 INTRO, ITEM NUMBER 9, WILL BE SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
22:16:24 THEN AFTER THAT I CAN GO INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
22:16:26 REPORT FOR THE REZONING IN MY REPORT.
22:16:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 8.
22:16:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TOGETHER THEN?
22:16:38 TOGETHER, MR. CHAIRMAN?
22:16:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 8 AND 9, A MOTION TO OPEN THAT?
22:16:44 ALL RIGHT.
22:16:46 ITEM 8 AND 9.
22:16:48 MOVED BY MR. MIRANDA.
22:16:50 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
22:16:52 ANY OPPOSED?
22:16:54 THANK YOU, SIR.
22:16:54 >>RYAN MANASSE: I TURN IT OVER TO SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
22:17:07 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY.
22:17:11 COUNCIL MEMBERS, ITEM NUMBER 9 IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN
22:17:16 EXISTING DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT WHICH SOME OF YOU
22:17:18 MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
22:17:21 THESE ARE CREATURES OF STATUTE ESTABLISHED BACK IN THE
22:17:24 EARLY 70s FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE A
22:17:27 SUBSTANTIAL EFFECT ON HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE
22:17:31 CITIZENS IN MORE THAN ONE PART OF THE COUNTY SO FROM A
22:17:34 MIXED USE PROJECT, THESE WERE THE PRIME KIND OF TARGET
22:17:37 FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACT.
22:17:41 AND THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED ACTIVE DRIs IN THE STATE
22:17:45 OF FLORIDA CURRENTLY.
22:17:46 HOWEVER, SINCE 2015, THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES
22:17:49 IN DRI STATUTES BY THE LEGISLATURE, SUCH THAT NOW INSTEAD
22:17:53 OF PROVIDING FOR STATE, REGIONAL, AS WELL AS LOCAL REVIEW
22:17:59 OF THESE PROJECTS, THE REVIEW FOR THESE OR AMENDED CITY
22:18:04 PROJECTS IS NOW WITHIN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S PURVIEW, SO
22:18:08 CITY OF TAMPA NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO REVIEW AND APPROVE
22:18:12 AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACTS, AND THE
22:18:16 REZONING BEFORE YOU AS ITEM NUMBER 8 IS PROPOSING TO ADD
22:18:21 USES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY APPROVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT
22:18:24 OF REGIONAL IMPACT PROJECT, AND SO ITEM NUMBER 9 WOULD BE
22:18:27 TO SIMPLY CONSIDER ADDING THOSE TWO USES TO THE APPROVED
22:18:34 DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN THE DRI.
22:18:37 SO ITEM NUMBER 8 WILL BE TAKEN UP FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL
22:18:42 CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 9 IF YOU DECIDE THAT ITEM 8 IS
22:18:45 APPROPRIATE AND THE REZONING IS APPROPRIATE.
22:18:48 I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO STAFF.
22:18:50 >>RYAN MANASSE: THANK YOU, SUSAN AND CHAIR.
22:18:55 I WILL JUST ENTER THE ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE REZ 21-28 FOR
22:18:59 THE PROPERTY AT 4110 GEORGE ROAD, FROM PD TO PD FOR
22:19:04 OFFICE BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL OR MEDICAL, RETAIL, STRIP
22:19:09 SHOPPING CENTER, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS,
22:19:12 CONVENIENCE GOODS, SPECIALTY GOODS WITH ALL COMMERCIAL
22:19:15 GENERAL USES, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, MULTIFAMILY MID
22:19:20 RISE, COLLEGE, RESTAURANT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
22:19:23 ATTACHED AND HOTEL OR MOTEL.
22:19:24 WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL DEFER TO PLANNING
22:19:26 COMMISSION'S REPORT AND IF YOU WOULD RETURN TO ME
22:19:29 AFTERWARDS.
22:19:29 >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION.
22:19:42 THIS IS REZ 21-28.
22:19:45 SORRY.
22:19:48 THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT.
22:19:52 IN THE CULVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.
22:19:55 IT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE A.
22:19:57 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THE UPPER LEFT,
22:20:02 GOLF COURSE TO THE SOUTH.
22:20:03 THE EAST OR COMMERCIAL USES AND TO THE NORTH ARE
22:20:08 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
22:20:17 THE BE SUBJECT SITE IS COMMUNITY USED 35.
22:20:20 THE PINK COLOR CONTINUES TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH IS
22:20:24 RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE WHICH IS THE GREEN AND THE ROCKY
22:20:27 GOLF POINT GOLF COURSE THAT I POINTED OUT BEFORE.
22:20:31 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT
22:20:33 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
22:20:35 THE USES PROPOSED UNDER THE PD ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT
22:20:39 COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, ALSO
22:20:44 THE ORIENTATION ON THE BUILDINGS IN KEEPING WITH THE
22:20:49 MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICIES.
22:20:55 SO YES, IN KEEPING WITH THOSE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF
22:20:58 THE CORRIDORS, SO THE ADDITION OF THE USES UNDER THE PD
22:21:05 CAN BE WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION, AND THE REQUEST FOR
22:21:10 ADDITIONAL HOUSING TYPES AND RESTAURANT USES IN
22:21:13 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PDS AND SERVE THE TAMPA INTERNATIONAL
22:21:17 AIRPORT.
22:21:18 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
22:21:20 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
22:21:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANASSE.
22:21:29 >>RYAN MANASSE: I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN, IF YOU LET ME
22:21:32 KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THE WELCOME.
22:21:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE IT.
22:21:36 >> AGAIN ITEM NUMBER 8 IS FILE REZ 21-28.
22:21:41 WE WENT OVER THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD AND ALL
22:21:44 THE SPECIFIED USES I PREVIOUSLY STATED AS WELL AS THE
22:21:47 ONES OUTLINED IN THE PowerPoint.
22:21:50 THE PowerPoint ON SCREEN OR THE PRESENTATION ON SCREEN
22:21:52 RATE NOW DOES SHOW THE 7 PREVIOUS APPROVED WAIVERS FROM
22:21:56 REZ 17-01.
22:21:58 AND THEN THE NEW WAIVERS ARE DOWN BELOW.
22:22:01 THERE IS A STRICKEN WAIVER, AND I WILL EXPLAIN THAT
22:22:04 BRIEFLY.
22:22:05 OF THE WAS TO REMOVE THE NONHAZARDOUS GRAND TREE BUT
22:22:08 BECAUSE THE TREE WAS PREVIOUSLY CUT DOWN, IT'S NOT
22:22:11 SOMETHING THAT WILL GO THROUGH WITH THE REZONING, IT
22:22:14 WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ANOTHER
22:22:16 AGENCY WITH THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO HANDLE.
22:22:18 SO THAT'S WHY IT BE STRICT FRIEND THIS NEW WAIVER
22:22:21 REQUESTED AND THE WAIVER WE ARE LEFT WITH IS SECTION
22:22:23 27-284.4 AND THAT'S TO PAY PAYMENT INTO CITY OF TREE
22:22:29 TRUST FUND FOR THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF TREES.
22:22:31 THE PETITIONER PROPOSING TO -- THE PROPERTY AT 4110
22:22:37 GEORGE ROAD ALSO KNOWN AS INDEPENDENCE PARK, FILE REZ
22:22:41 17010th 1, TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL OPTION FOR MIX OF
22:22:46 USES LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
22:22:47 THE PROPERTY WAS LAST REZONED IN 2017 FROM PLANNED
22:22:50 DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE TP -- PDA AND APPROVED FOR THE
22:22:54 USE OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE RETAIL SALES, HOTEL,
22:22:57 AND ADULT EDUCATION USES, IN ADDITION TO THE MULTIFAMILY
22:23:01 RESIDENTIAL USES APPROVED IN 2006.
22:23:03 THIS APPLICATION SEEKS TO ADD ALTERNATIVE ADDITIONAL USE
22:23:06 OPTIONS FOR THE PROJECT WHICH WOULD BE EXECUTED THROUGH
22:23:09 THE USE OF THE REVISED MATRIX APPROVED AS PART OF THE
22:23:14 INDEPENDENT PD AND DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT OR DRI
22:23:19 A PROMISE.
22:23:20 PROPOSED USES ARE LIMITED TO SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
22:23:22 RESIDENTIAL, AND RESTAURANT USES AVAILABLE ONLY TO THE
22:23:25 AREA IDENTIFIED ON THE ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN AS OPTION 2.
22:23:31 CONSISTENCY WITH THE PD ZONING IS EVALUATED THROUGH THE
22:23:33 INCREMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS PRIOR TO PERMITTING.
22:23:36 THE SUBJECT PARCEL CONTAINS 43.21 ACRES, UNDER THE
22:23:41 EXISTING ZONING AND DRI APPROVALS IS 825,000 GROSS SQUARE
22:23:45 FEET, AND INCLUDES THE EXISTING 125,575 SQUARE FEET OF
22:23:51 OFFICE BUILDING WHICH IS A MINIMUM ALLOWABLE OFFICE
22:23:54 DEVELOPMENT.
22:23:55 THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP BEYOND 825,000 GFS TO THE 1
22:24:01 MILLION MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO AN ADDITIONAL
22:24:04 TRANSPORTATION IMPACT AND REVIEW AND REQUIRES THE COUNCIL
22:24:07 APPROVAL.
22:24:09 THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 2006-2017 AND THE NEW 2021
22:24:14 ALTERNATIVE USES EXECUTED THROUGH THE EQUIVALENCY MATRIX
22:24:19 ARE SUBJECT TO ENSURE THERE ARE NO NET TRIP IMPACTS.
22:24:23 THERE ARE NO STAND ALONE CHANGES TO THE DRI AND THE
22:24:25 ASSOCIATED DRI ORDINANCE IF APPROVED WILL ALLOW THE
22:24:28 CHANGES PROPOSED IN THE PD REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
22:24:30 THE REZONING.
22:24:32 PROPOSED USES ARE SUBJECT TO THE EQUIVALENCY NATURE
22:24:35 APPROVED AS PART OF THE INDEPENDENT PARK PROJECT
22:24:38 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN 2017, 1701, ORDINANCE 20-17 -08
22:24:46 AND THE NEW USES REQUESTED AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL.
22:24:48 THIS ALTERNATIVE USE IF DEVELOPED WOULD DRAW DOWN FROM
22:24:51 THE OVERALL PROJECT ENTITLEMENTS, SETBACKS MAXIMUM
22:24:57 ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 150 FEET.
22:24:59 THE PD REQUEST PROPOSES TWO OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT, AND
22:25:04 IN THE SCREEN KIND OF OUTLINE OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2, I
22:25:08 WILL HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT MORE ON THAT IN THEIR
22:25:11 PRESENTATION.
22:25:11 IT IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS THE ONE SLIDE.
22:25:15 VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THIS SITE IS PROPOSED ON MEMORIAL
22:25:17 HIGHWAY.
22:25:18 INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY AND GEORGE ROAD.
22:25:20 THESE VEHICULAR ACCESS POINTS WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN
22:25:23 2017.
22:25:24 APPROVAL WILL NOT CHANGE UNDER THIS PD REQUEST.
22:25:28 OPTION ONE IS 3,310 SPACES INCLUDING 56 ADA SPACES AND
22:25:34 6,600 SPACES INCLUDING 1031 ADA SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED.
22:25:39 PARKING REQUIRED FOR OPTION 2 IS 1,710 SPACES INCLUDING
22:25:44 38 ADA SPACES AND 47 ADA SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED.
22:25:50 AND THEN FOR OPTION NUMBER 1 AND TWO I TOOK A SNIPPET
22:25:53 FROM THE STAFF REPORT SHOWING THE SETBACKS FROM NORTH
22:25:56 MEMORIAL HIGHWAY SOUTHWEST INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY AND EAST
22:25:59 WHICH WOULD BE GEORGE ROAD.
22:26:01 JENNIFER DID A GREAT JOB OUTLINING THE AREA AND I WILL
22:26:05 KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT THE LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORIC
22:26:08 LANDMARKS ARE NOT WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
22:26:10 GENERALLY MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, AND JENNIFER DID OUTLINE THAT
22:26:14 TO THE NORTH AND YOU SEE THE GOLF COURSE TO THE SOUTH AS
22:26:16 WELL AS RECREATIONAL USES OVER HERE SOUTH OF INDEPENDENCE
22:26:20 PARKWAY.
22:26:23 THIS IS SHOWING YOU OPTION NUMBER 1 PLAN.
22:26:26 THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED A LONG WITH THE
22:26:30 REZONING FOR FINAL REVIEW IN THE STAFF REPORT.
22:26:33 THEN I TOOK A SNIPPET FROM THE 24 PAGE PACKET OF OPTION
22:26:37 NUMBER 2 PLAN AS WELL.
22:26:42 EXISTING ELEVATIONS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
22:26:46 OPTION 1.
22:26:47 THERE'S SOME MORE ELEVATIONS, OPTION 1 AND 2 BUILDING
22:26:50 ELEVATIONS.
22:26:53 OPTION 1 AND 2 PARKING STRUCTURE ELEVATIONS.
22:26:57 OPTION 2 BUILDING 14.
22:26:59 YOU CAN SEE THE PLAN DOWN HERE TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
22:27:03 AND THIS IS OPTION 2 BUILDING 14 AS WELL.
22:27:08 OPTION NUMBER 2 BUILDING 17.
22:27:10 AND THEN STAFF WENT OUT AND TOOK SOME PHOTOS, BUT
22:27:13 GENERALLY THE AERIAL WOULD GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF THE
22:27:17 SURROUNDING AREA AND THE DEVELOPMENT SITE.
22:27:20 WITH THAT ALL BE SAID THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND
22:27:22 COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND WE FIND IT
22:27:25 QUINT THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
22:27:27 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
22:27:29 APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN ARE
22:27:34 REQUIRED AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET AND ALL MY STAFF
22:27:37 IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
22:27:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
22:27:43 DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT?
22:27:48 >>DAVID MECHANIK: GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:27:49 MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
22:27:51 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT HIGHWOODS REALTY.
22:27:56 WITH ME THIS EVENING IS DAN WOODWARD OF HIGHWOOD.
22:28:01 RANDY COEN OF COEN AND COMPANY.
22:28:06 AND WE ARE HERE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
22:28:13 RYAN HAS DONE A VERY THOROUGH REPORT.
22:28:16 AND I WOULD STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE AGREE THAT ALL
22:28:20 THE REVISIONS [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~]
22:28:32 MY PRESENTATION WILL ADDRESS ITEMS 8 AND 9.
22:28:36 I UNDERSTAND YOU WILL VOTE ON THOSE SEPARATELY.
22:28:41 TAMPA CHANGES ARE REALLY QUITE SIMPLE.
22:28:45 WE ARE ONLY ASKING TO ADD SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
22:28:53 RESIDENTIAL TO THE PROPERTY, TOWNHOMES, AND ASKING TO ADD
22:29:01 A RESTAURANT TO THE PROJECT.
22:29:04 THE REST OF THE LONG LIST OF USES ARE ALL ONES THAT WERE
22:29:11 APPROVED IN PREVIOUS APPROVALS OF THE PROJECT.
22:29:18 AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE RANDY COEN WHO IS
22:29:22 GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE SITE PLANS, AND DISCUSS THE
22:29:26 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED -- AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE,
22:29:34 RYAN'S REFERENCE TO THE REMOVAL OF THE GRAND TREE, THAT
22:29:40 WAS AN ERROR ON THE PART OF THE TREE REMOVAL COMPANY.
22:29:45 HIGHWOOD WILL ADDRESS ANY MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS THAT
22:29:50 ARE NECESSARY AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE FULLY IN COMPLIANCE
22:29:55 WITH THE CITY'S REGULATIONS.
22:29:57 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RANDY.
22:30:00 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
22:30:06 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
22:30:09 >>RANDY COEN: I DO.
22:30:14 GOOD EVENING.
22:30:16 RYAN AND DAVID HAVE BOTH DONE FINE JOBS DESCRIBING THE
22:30:20 PROJECT AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE ADDED TWO SMALL LAND USES
22:30:23 TO THE PROJECT BEING SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
22:30:27 WE UPDATED OUR TREE EVALUATION AND IMPACT ANALYSIS WHICH
22:30:31 WERE REQUIRED BY PERMIT AND ZONING CONDITION.
22:30:34 THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE AND THOSE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AS
22:30:36 FINE.
22:30:37 WE DID DO SOME MINOR CHANGES TO SETBACKS TO
22:30:40 ACCOMMODATE -- AS WELL AS THE TOWNHOUSE USES, AND I WILL
22:30:45 GO THROUGH THE WAIVERS.
22:30:46 THERE ARE SEVEN EXISTING WAIVERS.
22:30:48 THE CHANGES WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT HAVE NOT CHANGED ANY
22:30:52 OTHER JUSTIFICATIONS TO THESE WAIVERS.
22:30:54 THE FIRST WAIVER IS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS
22:30:58 TO ONE FOR EACH BUILDING WHERE A LOADING BERTH IS
22:31:01 REQUIRED.
22:31:02 THAT'S A STANDARD CONDITION IN THE WESTSHORE AREA.
22:31:04 THIS PROJECT IS ADJACENT TO IT.
22:31:06 SO IT'S A WAIVER HERE.
22:31:08 THAT'S HOW THE BUILDING WOULD BE BUILT THAT EXISTED
22:31:11 TODAY.
22:31:12 THE SECOND WAIVER IRONICALLY IS ANOTHER GRAND TREE THAT
22:31:14 WAS ACTUALLY REMOVED IN 2017, OR 2018.
22:31:19 BUT THERE IS A LEGACY WAIVER AND WAIVERS 3 THROUGH 7, THE
22:31:24 REMAINDER OF THE EXISTING APPROVED WAIVERS, ALL RELATE
22:31:27 TOTAL ALTERNATIVE SIGN PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR
22:31:29 THE PROJECT.
22:31:31 THE VARIETY MAJORITY OF THOSE SIGNS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
22:31:33 THE ONES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INSTALLED ARE THE ONES THAT
22:31:36 WOULD BE ON BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED AFTER
22:31:38 CONSTRUCTION.
22:31:39 THE NEW WAIVER IS ONE REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
22:31:42 PROVIDE FOR THE OPTION OF PAYING INTO THE TREE TRUST
22:31:46 FUND, IF WE CANNOT PLANT ALL OF THE MITIGATION TREES
22:31:51 ON-SITE.
22:31:52 WE BELIEVE WE CAN PLANT THEM ALL ON-SITE BUT WE HAVE NO
22:31:55 OBJECTION TO ADDING THIS WAIVER BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
22:31:58 READING.
22:31:58 WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
22:32:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
22:32:04 ANY QUESTIONS?
22:32:04 ALL RIGHT.
22:32:09 >>DAVID MECHANIK: IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY QUESTIONS THAT
22:32:10 WOULD CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION.
22:32:12 I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT THE ARBORIST ON THE PROJECT
22:32:17 IS PETERIKA AND HE IS ALSO PRESENT IF COUNCIL HAS ANY
22:32:23 QUESTIONS.
22:32:24 WITH THAT, WE WILL CONCLUDE OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION.
22:32:29 THANK YOU.
22:32:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
22:32:37 >> THERE'S NO ONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
22:32:39 ITEM NOR ON NUMBER 9.
22:32:43 WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER.
22:32:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A REGISTERED SPEAKER.
22:32:49 OKAY.
22:32:54 I HAVE JEAN STROHMEYER.
22:32:56 HOWEVER, I AM NOT ABLE TO ELEVATE HER.
22:32:58 SHE'S NOT LOGGED ON TO THE SITE THAT ALLOWS ME TO ELEVATE
22:33:02 HER AS A PANELIST.
22:33:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
22:33:08 WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.
22:33:10 MOVE TO CLOSE?
22:33:11 MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
22:33:12 SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
22:33:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:33:15 ANY OPPOSED?
22:33:17 ALL RIGHT.
22:33:17 MR. DINGFELDER, COULD YOU READ NUMBER 8, PLEASE?
22:33:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:33:42 MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO MOVE REZ 21-28.
22:33:51 SPECIFICALLY I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS MET HIS BURDEN
22:33:54 PROVIDING COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, THE
22:33:56 DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
22:34:03 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY
22:34:05 DECODE CODE AND I FIND THAT THE REQUESTED WAIVERS IF ANY
22:34:08 DO NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND
22:34:11 GENERAL WELFARE, ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING
22:34:15 COMMISSION, STAFF REPORTS AS STATED.
22:34:23 AND I WILL INCORPORATE THEIR REPORTS INTO MY MOTION.
22:34:29 SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO REZ 21-28, MOVE THE FOLLOWING
22:34:34 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
22:34:36 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4110 GEORGE ROAD IN
22:34:39 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
22:34:42 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
22:34:44 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS,
22:34:47 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, RETAIL SALES, HOTEL, ADULT
22:34:51 EDUCATION, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
22:34:55 DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE,
22:34:58 RETAIL SALES, ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, RESIDENTIAL,
22:35:01 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AND MULTIFAMILY, HOTEL, MOTEL,
22:35:05 COLLEGE, RESTAURANT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
22:35:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
22:35:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND ANY CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND
22:35:12 SECOND READING, REVISION SHEET?
22:35:14 IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY, MR. DINGFELDER?
22:35:17 WITH THE REVISION SHEET, MR. MANASSE?
22:35:21 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES.
22:35:22 >>THE CLERK: MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
22:35:24 ROLL CALL.
22:35:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
22:35:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
22:35:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
22:35:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
22:35:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
22:35:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
22:35:36 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
22:35:39 AT 9:30 A.M.
22:35:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO DO
22:35:43 NUMBER 9.
22:35:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
22:35:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
22:35:49 THAT, MR. SHELBY?
22:35:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON NUMBER 9 ON DRI?
22:35:57 I BELIEVE YOU MADE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
22:36:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO TO CLOSE, VIERA SECOND.
22:36:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE
22:36:11 REGARDING DZ 02-77 FOR AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
22:36:18 READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
22:36:21 FLORIDA APPROVING THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO A DEVELOPMENT
22:36:23 ORDER RENDERED PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 380.06 FLORIDA
22:36:27 STATUTES, FOR THE INDEPENDENCE PARK DEVELOPMENT OF
22:36:30 REGIONAL IMPACT, DRI, NUMBER 250, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
22:36:34 DATE.
22:36:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
22:36:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
22:36:41 ROLL CALL VOTE.
22:36:41 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
22:36:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
22:36:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
22:36:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
22:36:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
22:36:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
22:36:50 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO BEING ABSENT.
22:36:52 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 3rd
22:36:55 AT 9:30 A.M.
22:36:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
22:36:58 WE GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS MR.
22:37:00 CARLSON.
22:37:01 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, JUST THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR
22:37:04 ALLOWING ME TO WORK FROM HOME THIS EVENING.
22:37:07 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING SIR.
22:37:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
22:37:15 WITH MR. SHELBY'S HELP, I WOULD LIKE TO FAIL FORM 8-B TO
22:37:19 MY MEMORANDUM OF VOTING CONFLICT SPECIFICALLY AS RELATED
22:37:23 TO THE ITEM LAST WEEK, REZ 20-92, AND THAT MATTER I
22:37:30 ABSTAINED TO ENSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING.
22:37:33 AND I WILL FILE THIS WITH THE CLERK AT YOUR AGREEMENT.
22:37:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
22:37:39 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
22:37:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:37:42 ANY OPPOSED?
22:37:44 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
22:37:46 MR. MIRANDA?
22:37:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING.
22:37:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO MOVE AND RECEIVE?
22:37:56 >> ONE SECOND.
22:37:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE GETTING --
22:38:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.
22:38:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.
22:38:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR MIKE IS ON.
22:38:12 [ LAUGHTER ]
22:38:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD
22:38:17 LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO TAKE UP, AND ONE OF THEM IS
22:38:23 COUNCIL NEEDS TO -- I WOULD ASK TO FILE -- EXCUSE ME,
22:38:27 RECEIVE AND FILE THE MATERIAL FROM THE APRIL 22ND
22:38:31 WORKSHOP THAT WE OMITTED.
22:38:33 SO IF WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, APRIL
22:38:36 22ND WORKSHOP ITEMS.
22:38:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
22:38:41 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:38:42 ANY OPPOSED?
22:38:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE OTHER THING, I FAILED WITH THE
22:38:45 CLERK UNDER NEW BUSINESS A RESOLUTION, TWO OF THEM, TO
22:38:51 RATIFY PREVIOUS MOTIONS OF COUNCIL RELATIVE TO YOUR
22:38:55 APPOINTMENTS, AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE TO CORRECT A
22:39:00 SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
22:39:01 SO IF WE COULD ACCEPT A MOTION FOR THAT FOR YOUR
22:39:04 SIGNATURE.
22:39:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED BY MIRANDA, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
22:39:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:39:08 ANY OPPOSED?
22:39:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE NOW YOU HAVE A MOTION COMING
22:39:10 UP TO RECEIVE AND FILE FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING.
22:39:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY MIRANDA,
22:39:18 SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
22:39:19 ALL IN FAVOR?
22:39:20 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
22:39:20 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
22:39:24
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