TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 27, 2021
9:00 A.M.
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09:07:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, AND GOOD
09:07:24 MORNING TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:07:31 THE MAY 27, 2021 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP WILL COME
09:07:32 TO ORDER.
09:07:35 MR. CITRO, THE INVOCATION.
09:07:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MR. CHAIR.
09:07:41 WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE CHAPLAIN DELIA HARRIS COLEMAN.
09:07:45 SHE HAS BEEN LIVING IN TAMPA FOR 24 YEARS AND STUDIED
09:07:48 WITH THE CATHEDRAL OF FAITH AND HAVE BEEN A CHAPLAIN
09:07:50 AND MINISTER FOR 13 YEARS.
09:07:53 SHE HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR SEVERAL YEARS
09:07:58 FROM HOSTING WORKSHOPS ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO HER
09:08:03 PARTICIPATION IN THE WELLSPRING OUTREACH MINISTRIES.
09:08:07 MISS HARRIS COLEMAN, IF WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE
09:08:10 INVOCATION, AND IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE RISE AND
09:08:13 REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:08:25 MISS COLEMAN.
09:08:29 >> WE LOOK TO THE HILLS THIS MORNING WHICH COMETH OUR
09:08:32 HELP AND OUR HELP COME FROM THE LORD.
09:08:35 FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER CHANCE TO WAKE UP THIS
09:08:37 MORNING AND PRAISE YOU.
09:08:40 WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE
09:08:41 BESTOWED UPON US.
09:08:44 WE REALIZE WITH YOU WE CAN DO ALL THINGS BUT WITHOUT
09:08:46 YOU, WE CAN DO NOTHING.
09:08:49 FATHER, WE COME THIS MORNING PRAYING AND GIVING HONOR
09:08:51 AND GLORY TO YOU.
09:08:55 AND AS THE CITY COUNCIL COME TO MEET, LORD, WE ASK TO
09:08:58 YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM, SHOW THEM HOW TO STRATEGIZE AND
09:09:01 TO COME TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITY.
09:09:05 AND AS THEY WORK TOGETHER, LET US ALL WORK TOGETHER TO
09:09:08 BUILD UP OUR CITY, NOT TO TEAR IT DOWN.
09:09:10 AND FATHER, WE ASK YOU FOR GUIDANCE THIS MORNING.
09:09:12 WE ASK YOU FOR PEACE.
09:09:15 WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR JOY THIS MORNING.
09:09:18 FATHER, ANYBODY OF THE SOUND OF MY VOICE HAVING ISSUE
09:09:21 IN THE BODY, WE ASK FOR HEALING TODAY.
09:09:24 WE ASK FOR, LORD, WE ASK FOR PEACE TODAY.
09:09:27 FATHER, WE KNOW WE HAVE WENT THROUGH A LOT WITH THE
09:09:29 COVID AND STILL TRUST IN YOU AND WE KNOW THAT ALL
09:09:31 THINGS ARE WORKING TO THE GOOD.
09:09:32 MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT.
09:09:34 MAY NOT FEEL LIKE IT.
09:09:36 BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL IN CONTROL.
09:09:40 AND FATHER, AS THE TIME WINDS DOWN, FATHER, WE ASK YOU,
09:09:44 LORD JESUS, TO GIVE US A PLACE IN YOUR KINGDOM THAT WE
09:09:48 MAY SERVE YOU FOREVERMORE IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.
09:09:50 >> AMEN.
09:10:01 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:10:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I
09:10:05 WILL TAKE A FEW SECONDS TO GO DOWNSTAIRS.
09:10:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:10:10 MADAM CLERK, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:10:11 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:10:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:10:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER ADVISED HE WILL BE A
09:10:19 FEW MINUTES LATE.
09:10:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:10:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:10:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:10:27 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:10:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
09:10:31 GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS.
09:10:35 MR. CITRO IS GOING DOWN FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE FOR POLICE
09:10:36 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:10:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO
09:10:42 MAKE MY STATEMENT.
09:10:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL DO LIKE WE DO
09:10:47 IN THE FUTURE, MR. SHELBY.
09:10:48 BUT MAKE THE STATEMENT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
09:10:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF CITY
09:10:58 COUNCIL, MARTIN SHELBY, THURSDAY MAY 27, 2021.
09:11:01 AND AT OLD CITY HALL DURING THE COVID-19 STATE OF
09:11:01 EMERGENCY.
09:11:05 THIS WORKSHOP OF CITY COUNCIL IS CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE
09:11:08 IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
09:11:11 BUT WITH RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS MEMBERS
09:11:14 OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY
09:11:18 THROUGH VIDEO CONFERENCING AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA
09:11:20 TECHNOLOGY AS CMT.
09:11:22 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
09:11:25 EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURES AS ADOPTED BY CITY
09:11:29 COUNCIL IN 2020-225 AND AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020-490
09:11:34 AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-241.
09:11:37 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE
09:11:39 ABLE TO WATCH THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640,
09:11:44 FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND LIVE ON THE INTERNET AT
09:11:47 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:11:50 NOW PEOPLE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE
09:11:53 IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING BY SENDING WRITTEN COMMENTS OR
09:11:57 -- OR ON THE WEB BY E-MAIL, BY U.S. MAIL, AND THOSE
09:12:02 INSTRUCTIONS, COUNCIL, ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON
09:12:07 THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:12:08 ONE WORD.
09:12:11 TODAY, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO PHONE IN AND SPEAK PUBLIC
09:12:15 COMMENT THAT WAY BY REREGISTERING AND ALSO THEY CAN USE
09:12:20 CMT AND, AGAIN, THOSE ARE -- THOSE INSTRUCTIONS FOR
09:12:23 REREGISTERING ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB
09:12:24 PAGE.
09:12:26 THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A
09:12:28 COMMUNICATION MEDIA DEVICE, THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF
09:12:32 COMING HERE TO OLD CITY HALL, WHERE ON THE SECOND
09:12:35 FLOOR, THE CITY HAS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC DURING
09:12:39 THESE MEETINGS COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
09:12:43 THAT IS 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, OLD CITY HALL, AGAIN,
09:12:44 ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
09:12:47 PLEASE NOTE THAT USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
09:12:50 INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.
09:12:53 NOW ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
09:12:56 SUBMITTED AND, AGAIN, ARE DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL.
09:12:59 AND, AGAIN, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE
09:13:02 PROCESS THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE.
09:13:03 THANK YOU.
09:13:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
09:13:10 ITEM NUMBER 1, CEREMONIALS.
09:13:12 COMMENDATION OF THE MONTH.
09:13:14 MR. CITRO IS DOWNSTAIRS NOW.
09:13:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:13:19 I AM GLAD WE ARE GETTING BACK TO OUR HONORING OUR
09:13:22 POLICE OFFICERS OF THE MONTH AND OUR FIRE FIGHTERS OF
09:13:23 THE QUARTER.
09:13:29 TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO HONOR CORPORAL STEVEN HOGAN.
09:13:30 HE IS WITH ME RIGHT NOW.
09:13:32 ALSO, THE CHIEF IS HERE.
09:13:36 AND I AM GOING TO ASK THE CHIEF TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS
09:13:40 OFFICER DESERVES THIS COMMENDATION, CHIEF.
09:13:43 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:13:48 IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU CORPORAL STEVE HOGAN
09:13:50 WHO IS HERE AS OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:13:53 AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT VIOLENT CRIME HAS TICKED UP A
09:13:55 LITTLE BIT ACROSS THE NATION.
09:13:58 CORPORAL STEVE HOGAN HAS ACTUALLY MADE IT A POINT TO
09:14:02 MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN REDUCING VIOLENT CRIME IN
09:14:04 OUR COMMUNITY.
09:14:07 CORPORAL HOGAN IS A SAC OFFICER, A STREET ANTI-CRIMES
09:14:09 OFFICER IN DISTRICT ONE.
09:14:12 AND HE HAS SIX YEARS ON THE DEPARTMENT.
09:14:17 AND JUST IN THE MONTH OF MARCH, HE RECOVERED OVER SIX
09:14:18 FIREARMS OFF THE STREET IN DISTRICT ONE.
09:14:21 I WILL HIGHLIGHT JUST A FEW OF THE INCIDENTS THAT THIS
09:14:22 HAPPENED.
09:14:26 SO ON MARCH 12, HE DID A TRAFFIC STOP AT THE GANDY AND
09:14:29 HIMES, SAW DRUG USE IN THE VEHICLE.
09:14:32 AND MADE AN ARREST AND RECOVERED A FIREARM OFF THE
09:14:33 VEHICLE.
09:14:36 ON THE 18TH OF MARCH, HE WAS DOING SURVEILLANCE IN THE
09:14:39 AREA OF COLUMBUS COURT APARTMENTS WHICH HAD SEEN AN
09:14:41 INCREASE IN VIOLENT CRIME.
09:14:44 THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION, HE WAS ABLE TO RECOVER A
09:14:47 FIREARM WHICH WAS REPORTED STOLEN IN NORTH PORT,
09:14:48 FLORIDA.
09:14:54 ON THE 26TH, CORPORAL HOGAN CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STOP IN
09:14:56 THE OAKHURST APARTMENTS.
09:15:00 HE OBSERVED A DRIVER ACTING SUSPICIOUS AND THROUGH HIS
09:15:03 INVESTIGATION, HE WAS ABLE TO RECOVER A FIREARM IN THAT
09:15:03 CASE AS WELL.
09:15:08 ON MARCH 27, HE SAW SEVERAL VEHICLES THAT WERE PARKED
09:15:12 SUSPICIOUSLY AND HE ALSO NOTICED NARCOTICS IN THE
09:15:13 VEHICLE.
09:15:15 THROUGH THAT INVESTIGATION, NOT ONLY WAS HE ABLE TO
09:15:20 RECOVER A LARGE AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS BUT RECOVERED TWO
09:15:21 FIREARMS OUT OF THAT VEHICLE.
09:15:25 AGAIN, ON SAME DAY, ANOTHER TRAFFIC STOP OCCURRED ON AN
09:15:27 UNREGISTERED VEHICLE.
09:15:30 AND IN THAT VEHICLE, HE ALSO RECOVERED A SIGNIFICANT
09:15:33 AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS AND ANOTHER FIREARM.
09:15:37 IT IS FOR THIS OUTSTANDING WORK AND DEDICATION THAT
09:15:41 CORPORAL HOGAN WAS NAMED OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR APRIL
09:15:51 2021.
09:15:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT MAY BE
09:15:56 LISTENING ON TELEVISION, YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS
09:16:01 MANY, MANY TIMES, IF YOU WANT TO JUST SCRATCH THE
09:16:05 SURFACE OF WHAT THIS OFFICER DOES, OF WHAT ALL THE
09:16:09 BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DO,
09:16:17 WHEN WE OPEN THE POLICE ACADEMY.
09:16:18 PLEASE GO.
09:16:20 FIND OUT WHAT THEIR DAILY LIVES ARE LIKE.
09:16:27 I ALSO -- CORPORAL HOGAN, I MENTIONED YOUR LOVELY WIFE.
09:16:29 AND SHE IS ONE OF THE TRUE HEROES.
09:16:33 AS ARE ALWAYS THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF OUR POLICE
09:16:34 OFFICERS.
09:16:39 THIS WOMAN MARRIED THIS MAN KNOWING THAT HE IS GIVING
09:16:44 HIS CAREER, GIVING HIS LIFE FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA,
09:16:46 BUT SHE IS ALSO A HERO.
09:16:48 SHE KNOWS WHAT HE HAS TO DO.
09:16:51 AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING THAT TYPE OF HERO.
09:16:52 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:56 BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVICE, CORPORAL,
09:17:00 COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
09:17:03 CALL OF DUTY, YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THIS MARK OF
09:17:07 DISTINCTION OF OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:17:10 THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOUR PEERS AND SUPERVISORS
09:17:14 RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING ETHIC AND DEDICATION
09:17:16 TO KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
09:17:21 WE COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, EXCUSE ME,
09:17:25 FAIRNESS, AND LEADERSHIP BY EXAMPLE.
09:17:29 IT IS AN HONOR TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO
09:17:34 PRESENT CORPORAL STEVEN HOGAN WITH IN COMMENDATION ON
09:17:37 MAY 27, 2021.
09:17:40 CORPORAL, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, SIR.
09:17:40 [APPLAUSE]
09:17:45 NOW YOU ARE GOING TO STAND HERE -- YOU ARE GOING TO
09:17:48 STAND HERE AND RECEIVE ACCOLADES FROM SOME PEOPLE FROM
09:17:49 THE COMMUNITY.
09:17:51 YOU JUST SIT BACK AND RELAX.
09:17:58 AND WE NORMALLY HAND THEM OFF TO -- TO THE UNION BUT
09:17:59 YOUR WIFE IS HERE.
09:18:02 GIVE HER ALL -- GIVE HER ALL THE GOOD STUFF.
09:18:06 >> ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
09:18:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNION IS UP FIRST.
09:18:13 >> WE HAVE HELD ALL OF THAT FOR YOU.
09:18:13 IT IS A LOT OF STUFF.
09:18:15 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
09:18:19 DARLA PORTMAN WITH THE POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION.
09:18:21 VICE PRESIDENT JIMMY OWENS IS HERE AND PRESENT STEVE
09:18:23 HOGAN WITH A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE.
09:18:27 AN OFFICER IN D1 THAT MADE THIS PLAQUE FOR HIM.
09:18:29 STEVE, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH YOU SIX YEARS
09:18:32 AGO, AND I KNOW HOW PROACTIVE AND THOROUGH YOU ARE AS
09:18:35 AN INVESTIGATOR AND NO SURPRISE TOO ME THAT YOU ARE
09:18:35 HERE.
09:18:38 YOU ARE A GREAT MEMBER OF THE UNION AND WE WANT TO GIVE
09:18:40 YOU BEING FROM BUSCH GARDENS.
09:18:44 SERGEANT CAN'T BE HERE FROM BUSCH GARDENS AND WILL GIVE
09:18:47 YOUR FAMILY TICKETS TO BUSCH GARDENS.
09:18:52 WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
09:18:57 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU.
09:19:03 >> CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL-DONE.
09:19:06 WE ARE WITH STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:19:09 WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU A $50 GIFT CARD AND A
09:19:11 NIGHT OUT IN OUR COMPANY LIMOUSINE.
09:19:14 THIS WILL BE THE FIRST LIMOUSINE CERTIFICATE THAT WE
09:19:16 HAVE GIVEN OUT SINCE COVID STARTED.
09:19:20 SO WE HOPE YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY IT WITH YOU AND 18 OF
09:19:24 YOUR FRIENDS AND HAVE A NIGHT OUT ON US.
09:19:30 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
09:19:36 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU.
09:19:37 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
09:19:42 I WOULD GIVE YOU A CAR, BUT IT IS A VEHICLE THAT IS
09:19:42 SMALL.
09:19:45 AND HE COULDN'T GET ALL OF YOU, BUT A NICE DINNER OF
09:19:47 FOUR FOR THE TWO OF YOU.
09:19:50 IF YOU HAVE KIDS, IF YOU DON'T, GIVE TO YOUR
09:19:51 GRANDPARENTS.
09:19:53 BUT REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
09:19:56 YOU DO SO MUCH AND THE SACRIFICE FOR HIS LONG DAYS AS
09:19:56 WELL.
09:19:59 AND WE GIVE A LOT BACK TO OUR TPD FAMILY.
09:20:00 SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:02 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:12 APPRECIATE IT.
09:20:15 >> CORPORAL HOGAN, WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
09:20:18 ON BEHALF OF OUR FOOTBALL TEAM AND OUR ORGANIZATION,
09:20:20 WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
09:20:25 I HAVE BEEN WITH THE RESERVE NOW -- FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT
09:20:27 FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
09:20:33 PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT REALLY MAKES OUR CITY SIGN.
09:20:35 ON BEHALF THE BOSS AND ALL OF US, I WANT TO GIVE YOU
09:20:39 THIS AS A TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION AND HOPEFULLY
09:20:42 WHENEVER WE GET BACK TO LITTLE BIT MORE -- WE ARE
09:20:44 ALMOST THERE INVITE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO GIVE YOU A
09:20:49 FULL TOUR AND INDIANA INVITE YOU FOR LUNCH.
09:20:51 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: YOU ARE VERY KIND, THANK YOU.
09:20:53 >> CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM.
09:20:58 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
09:21:03 >> GOOD MORNING, MARY LOU BAILEY HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO
09:21:04 TAMPA.
09:21:07 I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND SO THANKFUL FOR
09:21:08 YOUR SERVICE AND FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:21:12 AND WE ARE GIVING YOU AN ANNUAL PASS TO THE ZOO AS A
09:21:13 FAMILY MEMBERSHIP.
09:21:15 AND IT IS A GIFT FROM THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO
09:21:20 RECOGNIZE YOUR -- YOUR GIFT TO US IN YOUR SERVICE.
09:21:21 IT IS AWESOME.
09:21:24 I HAVE BEEN TO THAT CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY AND I HAVE
09:21:26 A LITTLE GLIMPSE OF YOUR LIFE.
09:21:28 IT IS AMAZING WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
09:21:29 WE LOVE THE POLICE.
09:21:32 THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:21:34 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU, MY CHILDREN WILL LOVE
09:21:35 THIS.
09:21:36 >> AND YOU WILL TOO.
09:21:38 IT IS VERY COOL.
09:21:39 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: OF COURSE.
09:21:42 >> HAVE A GOODS TIME.
09:21:44 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:21:49 MICHAEL KILGORE WITH THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP.
09:21:52 THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU TO DO KEEP US SAFE.
09:21:58 TAKE THAT LIMO TO OUR NEWEST RESTAURANTS STEFANO IN
09:21:58 YBOR CITY.
09:21:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:03 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU.
09:22:05 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:22:06 GOOD MORNING.
09:22:10 ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, WANT TO GIVE YOU THE GIFT
09:22:12 OF A MEMBERSHIP.
09:22:16 WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY
09:22:21 AND THIS WILL GIVE YOU FREE TICKETS TO TAMPA THEATRE,
09:22:24 DISCOUNT ON TICKETS, DISCOUNT POPCORN, TOUR TO THE
09:22:27 THEATRE AND CAN BE FOR THE KIDS.
09:22:29 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:22:30 >> THANK YOU.
09:22:30 >> THANK YOU.
09:22:36 >> THANK YOU.
09:22:39 >> GOOD MORNING, CORPORAL.
09:22:40 STEVE MICHELINI.
09:22:43 I THINK THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LOUD HERE, BUT I WANTED TO
09:22:48 -- I THINK I WILL WAIT FOR THE FEEDBACK TO STOP.
09:22:54 DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC CRISIS, THE YMCA PROVIDED
09:22:57 FREE DAY CARE TO FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THEY ARE ALSO
09:23:03 PROVIDING A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOU TO ENJOY A
09:23:06 MEMBERSHIP AT THE Y FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
09:23:09 THESE TWO RESTAURANTS ALSO PROVIDED MEALS TO FIRST
09:23:14 RESPONDERS THROUGHOUT THE -- ALMOST TEN WEEKS WHEN THE
09:23:15 SHUTDOWN OCCURRED.
09:23:17 AND THEY PROVIDED THAT AT NO COST TO THE FIRST
09:23:18 RESPONDERS.
09:23:22 THEY ENDED UP DELIVERING 10,000 MEALS DURING THAT
09:23:23 PERIODS OF TIME.
09:23:28 AND WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING -- FROM CICCO'S RESTAURANT
09:23:36 GROUP A GIFT CERTIFICATE AND YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
09:23:40 AND PORTRAITS AT PRESTIGE PORTRAITS.
09:23:41 THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.
09:23:42 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:23:44 APPRECIATE IT.
09:23:49 >> CORPORAL, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE STRAZ CENTER
09:23:50 COULD NOT BE HERE.
09:23:54 YOU HAVE RECEIVED TICKETS FROM THE STRAZ CENTER TO SEE
09:24:01 A SHOW, THE JOBSITE THEATRE, SHOUT, THE MUSICAL AND DR.
09:24:01 RIDE.
09:24:04 EVERY TIME I HAVE GONE THERE, I HAVE ENJOYED MYSELF.
09:24:06 PLEASE TAKE YOUR WIFE AND ENJOY YOURSELF.
09:24:09 CORPORATE, BEFORE YOU GET A CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING,
09:24:12 COUNCILMEMBERS, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SAY THINKING TO
09:24:13 CORPORAL.
09:24:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:24:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:24:21 CORPORAL, JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY
09:24:22 AND OUR COMMUNITY.
09:24:24 OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THAT INCLUDES OUR POLICE OFFICERS
09:24:28 AND OUR FIRE FIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY PERSONNEL, REALLY
09:24:31 REPRESENT THE BEST IN US.
09:24:33 I AM SO GLAD YOUR WIFE IS HERE.
09:24:36 I KNOW SHE IS SO PROUD OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
09:24:40 I AM SURE SHE SEES YOU GO EVERY DAY TO WORK, AND SHE
09:24:44 SENDS YOU OFF TO A JOB THAT IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.
09:24:47 A VERY, VERY DANGEROUS JOB, BUT A VERY, A VERY CRITICAL
09:24:52 JOB AND MY HOPE AND MY PRAYER, CORPORAL, THAT WE JUST,
09:24:55 NOT JUST HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT EVERYWHERE, CAN
09:24:59 SHOW OUR APPRECIATION TO MEN AND WOMEN LIKE YOU AND
09:25:01 YOUR FAMILIES FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
09:25:03 THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU.
09:25:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
09:25:06 I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON.
09:25:07 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:25:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE A FACE OF EVERY POLICE
09:25:11 OFFICER IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:25:12 MALE AND FEMALE.
09:25:16 THE FACE OF EVERY CITIZEN AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY WANT TO
09:25:20 THANK YOU FOR YOU AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE TAMPA POLICE
09:25:23 DEPARTMENT DOES DAY IN AND DAY OUT 365 DAYS OF THE
09:25:23 YEAR.
09:25:26 THE CAREER THAT SUFFICIENT A VERY DIFFICULT ONE AND WE
09:25:30 HONOR YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT EVERYONE MAKES TO
09:25:32 MAKE TAMPA THE CITY THAT IT IS.
09:25:36 WITHOUT A CITY THAT HAS A LEVEL OF CIVILITY AND
09:25:40 REDUCTION IN CRIME TO SOME DEGREE IS A CITY NOT GROWING
09:25:40 AT ALL.
09:25:43 NO ONE WANTS TO MOVE TO A CITY THAT IS DIVIDED.
09:25:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:25:47 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:25:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:25:52 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO THE GREAT THINGS THAT
09:25:53 EVERYONE HAS SAID.
09:25:56 THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR SACRIFICE AND
09:25:56 COMMITMENT.
09:25:59 I AM UNFORTUNATELY OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER A TIME WHEN
09:26:03 WE IN THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T FEEL AS SAFE AND WE ARE ALL
09:26:06 VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL THAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES TO
09:26:08 DO KEEP US SAFE.
09:26:10 AND JUST WANT TO SAY WE ALL THINK ABOUT YOU AND PRAY
09:26:13 FOR YOU THAT YOU ALL STAY SAFE AND COME BACK TO YOUR
09:26:14 FAMILIES.
09:26:14 THANK YOU.
09:26:16 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU.
09:26:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
09:26:20 I CAN'T SEE -- DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, SIR?
09:26:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE SACRIFICE
09:26:25 YOU MAKE PUTTING ON THAT UNIFORM EACH AND EVERY DAY AND
09:26:26 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:26:28 WE ARE VERY PROUD OF YOUR SERVICE.
09:26:34 I LOOKED OVER, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU RECEIVED THE OFFICER
09:26:34 OF THE MONTH.
09:26:38 AND YOU KNOW PARTS ARE IN MY DISTRICT.
09:26:41 AND AREAS THAT WE GET CALLS FOR, YOU KNOW, OF INCREASES
09:26:42 IN CRIME AND WHAT NOT.
09:26:46 AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ANSWER TO THOSE CALLS AND
09:26:49 RESPOND TO THE NEEDS AND REQUESTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
09:26:51 AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:26:52 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: THANK YOU.
09:26:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:26:58 MR. CITRO, I KNOW YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC
09:27:00 SAFETY AND DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
09:27:02 OFFICER, I HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN BEFORE, SO I
09:27:05 KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND.
09:27:06 WHAT AM I GOING TO SAY.
09:27:07 I GOT THIS ACCOLADE.
09:27:10 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU HAVE DONE.
09:27:13 THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU
09:27:14 DO DO.
09:27:17 IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, SIR.
09:27:20 >>CORPORAL HOGAN: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU
09:27:22 FOR THE RECOGNITION TODAY.
09:27:24 THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL FOR THE RECOGNITION.
09:27:28 IT IS VERY HUMBLING, BUT WITH THAT SAID, THIS IS NOT MY
09:27:30 WORK ALONE.
09:27:33 I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT FIRST MY WIFE,
09:27:34 DANIELLE.
09:27:38 SHE TAKES CARE OF OUR FOUR-YEAR-OLD AND OUR
09:27:42 TWO-YEAR-OLD, AND WITHOUT HER SUPPORT AND HER STEADFAST
09:27:45 DEVOTION TO OUR FAMILY AND OUR KIDS I COULDN'T GO OUT
09:27:47 THERE EVERY DAY AND DO WHAT I DO.
09:27:50 AND TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THE WAY THAT I DO.
09:27:52 BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT I
09:27:54 WORK WITH ON MY SQUAD.
09:27:58 EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE READ TODAY ON THAT PAPER OR
09:28:00 WAS SAID, I DIDN'T DO ALONE.
09:28:03 I WORKED WITH THE GREAT MEN AND WOMEN OF THE TAMPA
09:28:04 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:28:07 AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY AND ARE
09:28:10 NOT GETTING THE RECOGNITION THAT THEY DESERVE AS WELL.
09:28:14 I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM, STREET ANTI-CRIME SQUAD 131.
09:28:20 AND THANK MY SUPERVISION, SERGEANT MANNY CEVINA AND THE
09:28:25 MAJOR, MAJOR DEFELISE THAT WAS JUST HERE.
09:28:28 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR PUTTING THE TRUST --
09:28:28 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:28:30 -- I AM A NEW CORPORAL.
09:28:33 I HAVE BEEN A CORPORAL FOR SEVEN MONTHS NOW AND LIKE TO
09:28:35 THANK THEM FOR PUTTING THE TRUST IN ME.
09:28:39 GIVING ME THE CAPABILITY AND THE -- AND THE ABILITY TO
09:28:42 DO AND GO OUT THERE AND WORK AND PROTECT THE CITIZENS
09:28:46 OF TAMPA AND REALLY TAKE THE DANGEROUS CRIMINALS OFF
09:28:47 THE STREET.
09:28:50 ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY FAMILY, THOSE I WORK WITH
09:28:54 IN THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING OUT AND SAYING KIND WORDS
09:28:56 AND DOING FAR TOO MUCH FOR ME.
09:28:58 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:28:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:29:00 THANK YOU, MR. CITRO.
09:29:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:03 CORPORAL, THANK YOU.
09:29:06 CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ASK SO MUCH.
09:29:09 I AM GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU
09:29:10 DID TODAY.
09:29:12 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, MY BROTHER.
09:29:14 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
09:29:14 [APPLAUSE]
09:29:22 MR. CHAIR, GIVE ME ONE SECOND, PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
09:29:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER TWO, FIRE FIGHTER OF THE
09:30:02 QUARTER.
09:30:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COME ON IN HERE THEN.
09:30:04 MR. CHAIR.
09:30:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:30:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:30:15 ANY PLEASURE -- FIRST, LET ME SAY, WE HAVE GOT HAND AND
09:30:16 GLOVE.
09:30:18 WE HAVE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT KEEP US SAFE
09:30:19 FROM CRIME.
09:30:23 THEN WE HAVE GOT THE GLOVE OF THE BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN
09:30:26 OF OUR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:30:29 AND THIS KEEPS US ALL SAFE.
09:30:33 WHEN WE HAVE EMERGENCIES, WHO DO WE CALL?
09:30:36 WHEN WE HAVE FIRES, WHO DO WE CALL?
09:30:44 SO IT IS MY HONOR TODAY TO INTRODUCE TO YOU OUR FIRE
09:30:49 FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER, CAPTAIN ROBERT THOMAS.
09:30:52 AND NOW CHIEF IS GOING TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS CAPTAIN IS
09:30:55 DESERVED OF FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
09:30:58 CHIEF?
09:31:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
09:31:05 I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR BIG YELLOW BUTTON AND MR. GRECO HAS
09:31:09 HIS AND MR. SHELBY WAS TRYING TO GET ONE.
09:31:13 RUSTLE UP A FEW SO PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE VACCINATED.
09:31:16 >>CHIEF TRIPP: WE WILL MAKE SURE.
09:31:20 INTERIM FIRE CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP HERE TODAY.
09:31:24 I WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE MR. -- OR CAPTAIN
09:31:27 ROBERT THOMAS SELECTED AS FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER
09:31:28 FOR THE SECOND QUARTER.
09:31:31 CAPTAIN ROBERT THOMAS IS A 25-YEAR VETERAN WITH TAMPA
09:31:32 FIRE RESCUE.
09:31:35 OVER THE COURSE OF HIS CAREER, HE HAS RISEN THROUGH THE
09:31:39 RANKS OF FIRE FIGHTER, PARAMEDIC, LIEUTENANT AND
09:31:40 CAPTAIN.
09:31:46 HE IS A TECHNICIAN, MARINE OPERATION, WHICH IS FLORIDA
09:31:50 SEARCH AND RESCUE ROPE TECHNICIAN AND VEHICLE AND
09:31:52 RESCUE TECHNICIAN.
09:31:54 A STATE CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR AND LIVE FIRE TRAINING
09:31:55 INSTRUCTOR.
09:31:58 UNLIKE MOST WITH ONLY A FEW YEARS REMAINING IN HIS
09:32:04 CAREER, HE USE HIS EXPERIENCE AND EDUCATION TO MENTOR
09:32:07 AND ADVANCE OUR ORGANIZATION AND TEACHING NEW RECRUITS
09:32:10 OR LESS EXPERIENCED LEADERS, HE NEVER MISSES THE
09:32:13 OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE IN HIS COMPANY AND
09:32:15 COMMAND ARE BETTER PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE WITH TAMPA
09:32:16 FIRE RESCUE.
09:32:19 MOST RECENTLY HE AND HIS ENTIRE CREW USED THEIR
09:32:21 PERSONAL TIME COMPLETE A TRAINING PROGRAM OVER THE
09:32:24 COURSE OF TWO WEEKS TO BE VEHICLE AND MACHINERY RESCUE
09:32:28 TECHNICIAN, ENHANCING THE PROFICIENCY WHICH FIRE
09:32:31 FIGHTERS OPERATE DURING TECHNICAL RESCUE INCIDENTS.
09:32:34 TRUCK 21 B IS WHERE CAPTAIN ROBERT THOMAS IS.
09:32:38 HE IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY TRUCK COMPANY IN THE CITY OF
09:32:42 TAMPA WHERE EVERY MEMBER HOLDS THIS CERTIFICATION.
09:32:45 THIS IS A TESTAMENT TO CAPTAIN'S LEADERSHIP AND
09:32:46 PASSION.
09:32:49 ALTHOUGH HE HAD AN ENTIRE CAREER DEDICATED TO IMPROVING
09:32:53 OUR ORGANIZATION, IT IS DUE TO THE COUNTLESS HOURS HE
09:32:56 HAS VOLUNTEERED TO DEVELOP TRUCK COMPANY OPERATIONS
09:33:00 TRAINING FOR HIS ABILITY TO MENTOR AND EMPOWER HIS
09:33:02 FELLOW FIRE FIGHTERS AND HIS PASSION FOR HELPING OTHERS
09:33:03 IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:33:07 THAT BEING SAID, CAPTAIN ROBERT THOMAS HAS BEEN
09:33:11 SELECTED AS FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER FOR TAMPA FIRE
09:33:19 RESCUE.
09:33:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
09:33:29 CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE GOING TO PRAISE THIS FIRE FIGHTER
09:33:33 FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT HE HAS DONE BY GIVING HIM
09:33:34 IN COMMENDATION.
09:33:39 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOUR PEERS, YOUR SUPERIORS COMMEND
09:33:42 YOU FOR THE DEDICATION TO SERVICE, COMMITMENT TO
09:33:45 EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY.
09:33:47 YOU HAVE BEEN SELECTED FOR THIS DISTINCTION AS FIRE
09:33:49 FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
09:33:52 WE RECOGNIZE YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR ABILITY TO MENTOR,
09:33:55 AND EMPOWER OTHERS.
09:34:02 WITH YOUR 25 DEDICATED YEARS OF SERVICE OF TAMPA FIRE
09:34:04 RESCUE.
09:34:07 IT IS WITH PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENT
09:34:12 CAPTAIN ROBERT ROBBIE THOMAS WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON
09:34:16 THE 27TH DAY OF MAY, 2021.
09:34:20 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:34:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS.
09:34:24 NOW YOU ARE GOING TO STAND HERE AND RECEIVE ALL THESE
09:34:26 WONDERFUL ACCOLADES.
09:34:28 DON'T MOVE.
09:34:32 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: I CAN DO THAT.
09:34:32 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:34:35 AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THIS
09:34:37 IN-PERSON MEETING AND BEEN A WHILE AND WE ARE GLAD TO
09:34:39 GET BACK TO IT.
09:34:42 ORIN HANSON, CHIEF OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND THE
09:34:45 CHAIRMAN OF THE AWARDS REVIEW BOARD.
09:34:47 ON BEHALF OF THE AWARDS REVIEW BOARD CONGRATULATE
09:34:50 CAPTAIN ROBERT THOMAS FOR HIS SELECTION AS THE FIRE
09:34:52 FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
09:34:55 ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I HAVE KNOWN
09:34:59 CAPTAIN THOMAS 10 YEARS AND I WAS A DRIVER AT ONE
09:35:00 POINT.
09:35:02 AND SPENT A FEW GOOD YEARS THERE.
09:35:05 HAD A GREAT CREW THERE AND A GOOD TIME AND A LEADER
09:35:07 WORTHY OF THIS RECOGNITION.
09:35:11 ON BEHALF OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS
09:35:15 AND THANK YOU.
09:35:16 [APPLAUSE]
09:35:18 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:35:21 GOOD MORNING, ROBBIE AND CHIEF.
09:35:24 I AM JOE GRECO, THE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS
09:35:26 74.
09:35:29 I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CAPTAIN THOMAS FOR ALL HIS
09:35:34 DEDICATION AND YEARS OF SERVICE AND HIS IMMENSE SKILLS
09:35:34 ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
09:35:36 THIS PLAQUE IS TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR FIRE FIGHTER OF THE
09:35:41 QUARTER, SECOND QUARTER OF 2021.
09:35:43 WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE AND, OF
09:35:46 COURSE, ALL THE GREAT SKILLS YOU HAVE ON THE TRUCK AND
09:35:48 WHATNOT.
09:35:49 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU.
09:35:51 >> ALSO A THING FROM BUSCH GARDENS.
09:35:55 PETE BREVY, THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU PASSES TO BUSCH
09:35:58 GARDEN AND FROM THE UNION -- ALTHOUGH MATT DIDN'T GIVE
09:36:02 IT TO ME -- SOME CARDS FOR YOU.
09:36:03 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU.
09:36:08 >> THANK YOU, ROB.
09:36:13 >> GOOD MORNING I AM MARY LOU BAILEY ON BEHALF OF ZOO
09:36:13 TAMPA.
09:36:15 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:36:18 AWESOME THAT YOUR STORY -- I REALLY LOVE THE FOCUS ON
09:36:21 MENTORING AND TEACHING WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED TO OTHERS
09:36:25 AND INSPIRING THEM TO LEAD AS YOU BECOME A LEADER.
09:36:27 ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT WHO WILL VEER
09:36:31 AT ZOO TAMPA PROVIDING WITH YOU A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP OF
09:36:33 ZOO TAMPA FOR A YEAR AND BRING FRIENDS WITH YOU.
09:36:35 A FEW FRIENDS INVOLVED IN THE CARD, AND YOU CAN GO TO
09:36:38 SOME OF OUR ANNUAL EVENTS FOR FREE LIKE CHRISTMAS IN
09:36:40 THE WILD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:36:41 SO ENJOY IT.
09:36:43 AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:36:47 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:36:48 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:36:49 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: GOOD MORNING.
09:36:53 >> MICHAEL KILGORE WITH THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT GROUP
09:36:58 AND THE GONZMART FAMILY.
09:37:02 A GIFT CARD TO RESTAURANT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
09:37:05 YOU MAY BE GETTING A RIDE THERE SOON.
09:37:08 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:37:11 >> CAPTAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:37:17 ON BEHALF OF STEPP'S TOWING, MIKE MCARTHUR CHRISTIE.
09:37:22 WE KNOW HOW STRONG THE BOND, FAMILY AND BROTHERHOOD OF
09:37:25 THE FIREHOOD FIREMEN.
09:37:27 WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF THAT.
09:37:29 SUPPORT YOU RAIN OR SHINE.
09:37:32 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
09:37:38 ON BEHALF OF STEPP'S TOWING, $50 GIFT CARD AND NIGHT
09:37:40 OUT ON OUR COMPANY LIMOUSINE.
09:37:41 YOU ENJOY IT.
09:37:44 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
09:37:55 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU.
09:38:00 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, DUSTIN PORTILLA WITH
09:38:01 MCDONALD'S.
09:38:06 AND THE 4,000 EMPLOYEES OF TAMPA AND JACKSONVILLE, WE
09:38:09 HEAR OF FIRE FIGHTERS RESCUING CATS FROM TREES AND WE
09:38:11 READ THOSE IN BOOKS AND PEOPLE STUCK IN THEIR BATHTUBS
09:38:14 BUT DON'T SEE THE REAL WORK THAT YOU ALL DO.
09:38:16 IT IS REALLY GREAT EVERY SINGLE QUARTER TO GET THAT
09:38:19 LITTLE BIO ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AND HOW SIGNIFICANT OF A
09:38:23 ROLE YOU PLAY WITHIN THE FIRE INDUSTRY.
09:38:26 AND SO -- WELL, HOPEFULLY ISN'T A FIRE INDUSTRY.
09:38:28 HOPEFULLY YOU ARE PUTTING OUT THE FIRES.
09:38:31 AND REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
09:38:35 AND CULTIVATING A PRETTY GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CHIEF
09:38:37 HANSON AND HOPEFULLY DO A LOT MORE WITH YOU ALL.
09:38:42 A LITTLE GOODY BAG OF MINT GOODIES, DINNER FOR FOUR AND
09:38:43 OTHER GREAT STUFF.
09:38:44 SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:38:46 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU.
09:38:50 >> APPRECIATE YOU.
09:38:51 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:38:55 ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS, CAPTAIN, AND
09:38:59 MYSELF, AND THE DEPARTMENT AND PART OF YOUR FAMILY FOR
09:39:01 THE LAST 35 YEARS, THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU
09:39:04 HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS TO PROVE YOURSELF.
09:39:06 OBVIOUSLY WORTHY.
09:39:08 I AM LEAVING YOU MY BUSINESS CARD BECAUSE WE COULDN'T
09:39:11 GET ALL YOUR ACCOLADES PUT IN THE BOWL FAST ENOUGH,
09:39:13 BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY
09:39:19 SENDING YOU AN HONORARY BALL FROM ALL OF OUR TEAM.
09:39:21 CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US
09:39:23 TO COME UP AND SHOW YOU APPRECIATION.
09:39:26 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:39:31 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:39:34 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:39:36 TAMPA THEATRE.
09:39:39 CAPTAIN, ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, I AM HONORED TO BE
09:39:42 HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU A GIFT OF A MEMBERSHIP TO COME
09:39:43 AND VISIT US ON FRANKLIN STREET.
09:39:47 WE JUST ANNOUNCED OUR SUMMER CLASSIC SERIES WITH FREE
09:39:51 TICKETS, DISCOUNT ON POPCORN AND FREE TOURS.
09:39:53 CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE
09:39:54 IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:40:00 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU.
09:40:02 >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:40:06 I HAVE ONE QUESTION, WILL YOU LET ORIN DRIVE THE TRUCK?
09:40:07 >> I DID.
09:40:09 >> WELL, I GUESS WE ARE OKAY.
09:40:10 YOU SURVIVED.
09:40:12 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: WE DID SURVIVED.
09:40:13 >> HE IS A GOOD GUY.
09:40:15 I AM PULLING A LEG A LITTLE BIT.
09:40:18 ON BEHALF -- STEVE MICHELINI ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA
09:40:22 YMCA PROVIDE WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO GO AND
09:40:23 ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
09:40:29 CICCO'S RESTAURANT GROUP, ENJOY BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND
09:40:34 DINNER AND YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO AND ORIN WANTED TO
09:40:36 GO WITH YOU FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
09:40:37 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE.
09:40:42 PRESTIGE PORTRAIT PROVIDE YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE
09:40:45 TO HAVE YOUR PORTRAITS DONE.
09:40:46 THANK YOU.
09:40:46 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:40:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAPTAIN THOMAS AND AS BEFORE, THE
09:40:53 STRAZ CENTER WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
09:40:55 YOU HAVE TICKETS TO ONE OF THEIR LOVELY SHOWS, THE
09:41:00 JADE, THE MASANI OR OTHER THEATRE THEY HAVE.
09:41:03 THEY HAVE SEVEN THERE AND THEY WANTED ME TO LET YOU
09:41:03 KNOW.
09:41:05 NOW TIME FOR COUNCIL TO TALK TO YOU.
09:41:06 COME ON UP HERE.
09:41:07 COUNCIL, PLEASE.
09:41:08 ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
09:41:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR.
09:41:13 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:41:15 THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE FOR TAMPA FIRE
09:41:16 RESCUE.
09:41:18 YOU JUST HEARD A LOT OF GOOD WORDS FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE
09:41:22 THAT SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING OUR FIRE
09:41:22 FIGHTERS.
09:41:27 AND I THINK AGAIN THAT REFLECTS THE VIEWS OF I THINK
09:41:31 99% OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORTING OUR FIRST
09:41:34 RESPONDERS INCLUDING OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE
09:41:36 FIGHTERS, EMERGENCY WORKERS AND THAT INCLUDES YOU.
09:41:38 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR.
09:41:41 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:41:43 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:41:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:41:49 >>BILL CARLSON: TO ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAY.
09:41:51 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND KEEPING US SAFE.
09:41:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:41:56 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:42:00 WELL, AGAIN, PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE IN THE CITY.
09:42:03 FIRE FIGHTERS, I UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, I AM SO GRATEFUL
09:42:07 THAT THEY HELPED MY DAD.
09:42:09 I UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF WHAT THEY DO.
09:42:10 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:42:15 AND I KNOW CHIEF TRIPP HAS A HANDLE ON THE FIRE
09:42:18 DEPARTMENT AND DOING AN EXAMPLE FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
09:42:20 THANK YOU, MR. CITRO.
09:42:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, YOUR TURN.
09:42:23 >>CAPTAIN THOMAS: GOOD MORNING.
09:42:25 I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY THANKING CITY COUNCIL FOR
09:42:28 ALLOTTING THIS TIME DURING YOUR MEETING.
09:42:32 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MY DISTRICT CHIEF, JUSTIN
09:42:34 BAXTER, WHO IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE TODAY FOR THE
09:42:36 NOMINATION AND ALSO THE AWARDS COMMITTEE FOR THE
09:42:39 DECISION AND ALSO THE CREW THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING
09:42:41 WITH FOR YEARS THAT MAKE ALL OF THIS POSSIBLE.
09:42:45 AND NOW FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.
09:42:48 THIS MAY BE A LITTLE OFF TOPIC BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY
09:42:53 25-PLUS YEARS WITH THE DEPARTMENT I CANNOT REMEMBER THE
09:42:58 MORALE BEING AS IT IS CURRENTLY AS IT IS NOW.
09:43:01 ONLY A FEW MONTHS SINCE THIS ADMINISTRATION IS IN PLACE
09:43:05 AND THE VISION FOR TFR HAVE NEVER BEEN BRIGHTER.
09:43:07 CHIEF TRIPP, THANK YOU.
09:43:10 FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER IS A TRUE HONOR AND I WOULD
09:43:12 LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS.
09:43:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
09:43:20 [APPLAUSE]
09:43:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, IF I MAY TAKE ONE MOMENT.
09:43:27 MR. CHAIR, PLEASE, IF I MAY, AS THE CHAIRMAN OF PUBLIC
09:43:29 SAFETY, I NEED TO TAKE THIS MOMENT AND MAKE A
09:43:31 STATEMENT.
09:43:33 OUR BUDGET IS COMING UP.
09:43:35 OUR BUDGET REVIEW IS COMING UP.
09:43:38 AND EVEN THOUGH THE CITY HAS BEEN HIT HARD BY THE
09:43:44 PANDEMIC, WE NEED TO LOOK DEEPLY INTO NEW FIRE STATIONS
09:43:47 FOR TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS.
09:43:51 NOT ONLY DOWNTOWN WHERE THERE ARE 3,000 NEW PEOPLE
09:43:54 COMING INTO THIS CITY WITH WATER WORKS.
09:43:55 ALSO NORTH TAMPA.
09:43:58 I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS A LOVE FOR FIRE
09:43:58 STATION NEW TAMPA.
09:44:05 IT IS OF MY OPINION THAT WE CAN NO LONGER DO WHAT WE
09:44:06 HAVE.
09:44:08 WE NEED SOME NEW FAIR STATIONS.
09:44:13 AND I HOPE WE TAKE A LONG, HARD LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND
09:44:18 FIND WAYS, IF NOT TOMORROW WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO
09:44:21 ADD A FEW NEW FIRE STATIONS TO OUR CITIES.
09:44:24 AGAIN, THIS IS MEANT TO OFFEND NO ONE.
09:44:29 BUT THIS IS REALITY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
09:44:31 THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GROWING, RAPIDLY.
09:44:35 AND THE FIRE FIGHTERS NOT ONLY NEED THE BRICK AND
09:44:37 MORTAR THAT THEY DESERVE BUT THE EQUIPMENT THEY
09:44:38 DESERVE.
09:44:40 THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY LISTENING TO ME.
09:44:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO OUR FIRE FIGHTERS.
09:44:52 [APPLAUSE]
09:44:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL GO CONTINUE TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:44:56 FAMILY TIME NOW.
09:44:57 MR. VIERA.
09:44:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, CHAIRMAN GUDES.
09:45:00 I APPRECIATE THAT.
09:45:04 MY HONOR TO GIVE A CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDATION TODAY TO
09:45:07 A GENTLEMAN WHO UNFORTUNATELY LEAVING US.
09:45:10 MR. CREW, IF YOU CAN COME UP HERE FOR A MINUTE.
09:45:14 JIM CREW, I HAD A GREAT PLEASURE OF KNOWING JIM FOR 14
09:45:15 YEARS OR SO.
09:45:17 I GOT TO MEET JIM WHEN HE SERVED ON THE CIVIL SERVICE
09:45:20 REVIEW BOARD AND I IMMEDIATELY TOOK A LIKING TO JIM.
09:45:23 HE IS A NICE GUY AS I WILL TALK ABOUT.
09:45:26 FIRST BACKGROUNDS ON JIM, HE HAS SERVE THE 26 YEARS FOR
09:45:29 THE CITY OF TAMPA INCLUDING 15 YEARS SERVING IN THE
09:45:32 CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, THE FIRST 11 YEARS HE SERVED IN
09:45:34 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
09:45:35 CAPACITIES.
09:45:38 JIM SERVED IN THREE DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF THE MILITARY
09:45:41 INCLUDING THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD, NAVY AND AIR FORCE
09:45:44 RESERVE FOR 23 YEARS.
09:45:47 AND JIM COMES LIKE SO MANY OF OUR VETERANS DO FROM A
09:45:48 MILITARY FAMILY.
09:45:51 HIS SON HAS SERVE $IN THE NAVY RESERVE.
09:45:54 HE HAS TWO BROTHERS WHO SERVED INCLUDING ONE THAT WAS
09:45:58 IN VIETNAM AND HIS LATE FATHER WAS IN THE U.S. ARMY AIR
09:46:02 CORP AND LOVE SEEING -- IF YOU GO PAST JIM'S OFFICE YOU
09:46:05 SEE A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF HIS FATHER AND HE LOOKS JUST
09:46:06 LIKE HIS DAD.
09:46:10 HE COMPLETED HIS MASTER OF DIVINITY DEGREE FROM LIBERTY
09:46:14 UNIVERSITY IN 2014 AND PRESENTLY SERVES -- TALK ABOUT
09:46:18 FIRST RESPONDERS -- WITH OUR FRIENDS AT PASCO FIRE
09:46:21 RESCUE AS A VOLUNTEER CHAPLAIN AND WITH THE TAMPA BAY
09:46:24 REGION ALACRITY CAL INCIDENT.
09:46:26 MARIA CREW, HIS WIFE.
09:46:27 A WONDERFUL NAME.
09:46:33 MY MOTHER'S NAME, MARIA FOR 32 YEARS.
09:46:35 HE HAS A SON AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW.
09:46:38 JIM IN HIS PERSONAL LEVEL, ACHIEVEMENT OF SERVING FIRST
09:46:42 RESPONDERS AND CITY OF TAMPA IN UNIFORM IS GREAT, BUT
09:46:44 ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, JIM IS A GENTLEMAN.
09:46:48 THE KIND OF PERSON -- I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS GUY EVER
09:46:49 BEING RUDE TO ANYBODY AT ALL.
09:46:51 BUT A GENTLE MAN.
09:46:53 HE IS A GENTLE PERSON.
09:46:55 JIM IS A VERY, VERY GENTLE PERSON.
09:47:00 HE HAS A GENTLE VOICE AND I REALLY BELIEVE A GENTLE
09:47:00 SOUL.
09:47:02 JIM IS VERY, VERY HUMBLE.
09:47:07 JIM IS A VERY, VERY HUMBLE PERSON AND JIM IS A PATRIOT
09:47:09 WHO LOVES HIS FAMILY A LOT AND FAMILY SERVICE THAT
09:47:10 RECOGNIZE THAT.
09:47:13 BUT THE REAL CORE OF JIM, I THINK, COMES FROM HIS
09:47:14 RELIGIOUS FAITH.
09:47:17 JIM HAS ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN AS I FIRST KNEW HIM AND WILL
09:47:20 BE KNOWN TO THE DAY HE DIES AS A VERY DEDICATED
09:47:23 CHRISTIAN WHO LIVES HIS LIFE BY THE TEACHINGS AND
09:47:25 VALUES AND THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST.
09:47:28 THAT IS WHAT REALLY, REALLY MATTERS TO JIM.
09:47:31 AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT JUST INFORMS THE
09:47:32 KIND OF PERSON THAT HE IS AND THE SERVICE THAT HE GIVES
09:47:35 TO OUR CITY AND TO OUR COUNTRY.
09:47:39 SO I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION
09:47:42 TO JIM, BUT BEFOREHAND -- AND WE HAVE OUR CLERK'S
09:47:44 OFFICE HERE.
09:47:48 IF MISS FOXX-KNOWLES IF YOU WANT TO COME AND SPEAK,
09:47:49 MA'AM.
09:47:51 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:47:55 SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
09:47:57 WE REALLY ARE GOING TO MISS JIM.
09:47:59 JIM A PROFESSIONAL.
09:48:02 HE IS KIND AND HARDWORKING.
09:48:05 ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:48:09 WE APPRECIATE IT SO, SO VERY MUCH.
09:48:14 HE HAS HELPED US OUT WITH OUR, OF COURSE, PUBLIC
09:48:20 RECORDS AND HE HANDLES THE MULTIDEPARTMENTAL PUBLIC
09:48:22 RECORDS REQUEST.
09:48:25 AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09:48:27 HE JUST HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.
09:48:33 AND, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE HIM AND ALWAYS WILLING TO
09:48:36 HELP OUT IN ANY WAY THE TRAINING, WHATEVER.
09:48:40 SO HE IS -- HE IS A INSPIRATION AND, AGAIN, WE ARE
09:48:41 GOING TO MISS HIM.
09:48:43 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:50 OH, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE STAFF.
09:48:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COME ON UP, FAMILY.
09:48:56 >> WE HAVE OUR ARCHIVES AND RECORDS DIVISION HERE, ALSO
09:49:04 WITH JENNIFER AND ALISON, OF COURSE, SULING, CARENSIA
09:49:05 AND BRITTANY.
09:49:07 SO WE HAVE A FEW OTHERS TOO, BUT THEY ARE HERE RIGHT
09:49:08 NOW.
09:49:11 WE HAVE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL STAFF,
09:49:12 INCLUDING JIM.
09:49:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:20 >>LUIS VIERA: AND BEFORE -- BEFORE WE HAVE MR. CREWS
09:49:20 SPEAK.
09:49:24 IT IS FUNNY WE HAVEN'T -- DOES CITY COUNCIL SPEAK
09:49:26 BEFORE MR. CREW.
09:49:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOESN'T MATTER.
09:49:29 WE DO WHAT WE DO HERE.
09:49:30 WE MAKE IT WORK.
09:49:32 >>LUIS VIERA: PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
09:49:36 IF ANYBODY GETS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND NOBODY
09:49:39 LIKES THAT, JIM IS THE FIRST PERSON WE TALK TO.
09:49:41 SO ALWAYS A GOOD THING.
09:49:44 MR. CREW, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK AND MY
09:49:48 PLEASURE TO GIVE YOU THIS FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
09:49:51 GO AHEAD, BUDDY.
09:49:52 >>JIM CREW: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:55 I ALREADY HAD A BIG HEAD, NOW IT IS GOING TO BE A
09:49:56 PUMPKIN.
09:49:57 THANK YOU FOR ALL THE KIND WORDS.
09:50:00 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR KINDNESSES OVER THE YEARS AND A
09:50:03 PLEASURE WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU AND NOW THAT I HAVE
09:50:06 DONE 43 YEARS OF GOVERNMENT SERVICE WITH THE ARMY,
09:50:10 NAVY, AIR FORCE AND CITY OF TAMPA TIME FOR ME TO REALLY
09:50:13 DECIDE TO DO WHAT I WANT WHEN I GROW UP AND THAT'S WHEN
09:50:16 I AM RETIRING AND MOVING CONTINUE TO WHATEVER THE LORD
09:50:16 HAS NEXT.
09:50:20 A GREAT PLEASURE TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU
09:50:22 -- THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY.
09:50:25 I WOULDN'T WANT ANY ONE OF YOUR JOBS.
09:50:27 YOU HAVE THANKLESS JOBS AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING
09:50:30 THAT YOU HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS AND CONTINUE TO DO
09:50:31 FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:50:31 SO THANK YOU.
09:50:35 AND IT HAS BEEN MY PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO WORK WITH YOU
09:50:37 AND FOR THE CITY THESE MANY YEARS.
09:50:38 THANK YOU.
09:50:43 [APPLAUSE]
09:50:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:50:50 I SAW YOU --
09:50:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS LOOKING AT JIM'S SPEECH AND I
09:50:55 THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A GREAT POLITICIAN.
09:50:55 [LAUGHTER]
09:50:59 HE MIGHT -- HE MIGHT BE LEAVING US TO RUN FOR OFFICE
09:51:00 SOMEWHERE ELSE, I THINK.
09:51:03 BUT I HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR MOST OF HIS CAREER.
09:51:05 NOW I GOT HIM MOTIVATED.
09:51:08 HE IS COMING BACK TO THE MIC.
09:51:11 >>JIM CREW: YOU HAD THE TRUE HEROES HERE BEFORE ME THE
09:51:13 FIRST RESPONDERS AND WAY TONIGHT CONTINUE TO SERVE THEM
09:51:16 IN MY RETIREMENT AS A VOLUNTEER CHAPLAIN WITH FIRE
09:51:17 RESCUE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
09:51:21 THAT IS MY DREAM AND MY GOAL.
09:51:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES ARE
09:51:26 HEROES WITH THE WAY THEY WORK AND DO THINGS TO HELP
09:51:27 EVERYONE ELSE IN THE CITY.
09:51:31 I MEAN THAT SINCERELY, WHETHER YOU WEAR A BADGE OR A
09:51:34 FIRE FIGHTER OR YOU -- YOU ARE A DELIVERY PERSON OR YOU
09:51:37 WORK IN RECORDS OR YOU WORK EVERYWHERE ELSE.
09:51:42 AND RECORDKEEPING IS THING THAT IS SO DILIGENTLY -- AND
09:51:45 SO NEEDED BECAUSE IF YOU WANT A RECORD, YOU GOT TO FIND
09:51:46 IT IMMEDIATELY.
09:51:48 SOMEBODY DOESN'T PLAN THREE MONTHS AHEAD I NEED TO LOOK
09:51:50 FOR TO RECORD BECAUSE I NEED IT.
09:51:53 THEY ASK FOR IT TODAY AND GOT TO BE DELIVERED QUICKLY.
09:51:55 ALL OF YOU IN THE DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU
09:51:55 DO.
09:51:58 JIM, I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR MOST OF YOUR CAREER.
09:52:02 YOU HAVE BEEN A STALL WALT.
09:52:07 VERY GENERAL AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OFF THIS DONE FOR
09:52:09 YOUR CAREER FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:52:11 BEST OF LUCK FOR YOU.
09:52:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOWN THE LINE.
09:52:15 MR. CITRO'S LIGHT ON.
09:52:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:52:20 JIM, I HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER
09:52:24 FOR 16 YEARS, STARTING WITH CIVIL SERVICE BOARD GOING
09:52:30 ON TO VARIANCE REVIEW, GOING ON IT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
09:52:33 IT -- I SAY THIS A LOT, AND I MEAN IT.
09:52:38 EVERYBODY WHO WORKS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS FAMILY.
09:52:41 AND YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT FAMILY MEMBER.
09:52:42 YOU ALWAYS HELPED ME.
09:52:45 WHENEVER I NEEDED SOMETHING, I WOULD ALWAYS COME TO
09:52:45 YOU.
09:52:46 AND YOU HAVE BEEN THERE.
09:52:48 YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER
09:52:50 PARTS OF THE CITY.
09:52:53 EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE LEAVING US, YOU ARE STILL FAMILY,
09:52:54 BROTHER.
09:52:55 WE WILL MISS YOU.
09:52:59 BUT, PLEASE COME BACK AND SEE US, ALL RIGHT?
09:53:03 >>JIM CREW: ABSOLUTELY.
09:53:07 >> WHEN I SAW THE ANNOUNCEMENT THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU
09:53:10 WERE RETIRING, I WAS REALLY SAD.
09:53:13 YOU HELPED ALL OF US SO MUCH OVER AT LEAST THE SHORT
09:53:15 TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE ALL THE GREAT THINGS OFF
09:53:16 THIS DONE.
09:53:19 WE NEED MORE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WITH YOUR HEART,
09:53:22 COMPASSION AND DEDICATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEE
09:53:23 WHAT YOU WILL DO NEXT.
09:53:26 I KNOW YOU WILL DO GREAT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY AND
09:53:26 THE WORLD.
09:53:29 YOU DON'T HAVE BE ELECTED TO DO GOOD THINGS, AS YOU
09:53:29 KNOW.
09:53:31 AND I AM SURE YOU WILL DO POSITIVE THINGS IN THE
09:53:32 COMMUNITY.
09:53:33 THANK YOU.
09:53:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:53:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:53:38 GREAT APPRECIATION FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
09:53:42 YOU ARE A VERY, VERY, VERY NICE MAN AND VERY HUMBLE.
09:53:43 COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID IT ALL.
09:53:44 A GENTLE SOUL.
09:53:48 I THINK WHEN PEOPLE MEET YOU AND SEE YOU, THEY KNOW
09:53:50 THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ARE JUST ONE OF THOSE NICE
09:53:51 GUYS.
09:53:52 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:53:54 BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT CITY COUNCIL CANNOT
09:53:56 FUNCTION WITHOUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
09:54:00 YOUR ENTIRE TEAM, THE ENTIRE FAMILY, WE REALLY ARE IN
09:54:01 THIS TOGETHER.
09:54:03 AND ALL THE WORK OFF THIS PUT IN.
09:54:06 ALL THE WORK THAT EVERYONE IN THAT OFFICE PUTS IN TO
09:54:10 ALLOW ALL OF US TO FUNCTION AND SUCCEED EACH AND EVERY
09:54:10 DAY.
09:54:13 WE IRISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK, AS YOU SAID WHATEVER THE
09:54:15 LORD HAS NEXT FOR YOU.
09:54:20 MAY YOU LIVE TO BE 100 YEARS OLD, HEALTHY AND HAPPY.
09:54:24 AND THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PART, "HAPPY."
09:54:28 YOU HAVE SERVED -- I OFTEN SAID IT IS OKAY TO SERVE, IT
09:54:31 IS OKAY TO GIVE, BUT ALSO OKAY TO PUT YOURSELF FIRST.
09:54:33 FOCUS ON JIM CREW.
09:54:36 DO WHATEVER MAKES YOU HAPPY AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST
09:54:36 OF LUCK.
09:54:38 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:54:40 >>JIM CREW: THANK YOU.
09:54:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:54:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING OPINION I WAS VERY SAD
09:54:47 TO SEE THAT MEMO THAT YOU WERE LEAVING.
09:54:48 I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.
09:54:51 YOU SERVED OUR COUNTRY, YOU SERVED OUR COMMUNITY, AND
09:54:54 NOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO GO OFF AND SERVE THE
09:54:57 LORD IN YOUR OWN UNIQUE WAYS.
09:54:59 AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE SO MUCH.
09:55:02 AND YOU HAVE BEEN -- WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE
09:55:02 YOU.
09:55:05 AND YOU HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO SERVE WITH THESE FINE
09:55:11 PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THESE FINE LADIES, SHIRLEY AND
09:55:15 SULING AND THE REST OF THE CREW.
09:55:18 A GREAT TEAM THAT SHIRLEY HAS PUT TOGETHER.
09:55:21 AND YOU WILL BE LEAVING A BIG GAP THERE, BUT WE WISH
09:55:22 YOU WELL.
09:55:24 THANK YOU, JIM.
09:55:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, MR. CREW, FROM THE MOMENT I
09:55:31 MEANT YOU, HUMBLE, READY TO WORK, READY TO DO WHATEVER
09:55:34 NEEDS TO BE DONE, ESPECIALLY IN NIGHT COUNCIL.
09:55:36 I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE TRAINING MICHELLE WHEN SHE
09:55:38 FIRST CAME ON BOARD.
09:55:39 THAT WAS FAMILY.
09:55:42 IT SHOWED -- MAKE SURE SHE HAD IT.
09:55:45 AND BY GOLLY, SHE'S GOT IT NOW.
09:55:49 SHE IS ON HER OWN OPINION AND THANK YOU FOR THAT
09:55:53 BECAUSE YOU ARE THE TRAIN THEIR HELPED HER OUT ON THAT.
09:55:56 LIKE HE SAID EVERYBODY HERE IS FAMILY.
09:55:58 AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL HOUSE AND PROTECT THE HOUSE.
09:56:01 AND YOU PROTECTED THE NOW ALONG WITH MISS SHIRLEY -- WE
09:56:06 FRY TO PROTECT YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU PROTECT US.
09:56:07 AGAIN.
09:56:09 BEST WISHES ON YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVOR.
09:56:11 I KNOW WHEN YOU SAY TO RETIRE.
09:56:12 GO DO WHAT DO YOU BEST.
09:56:14 GO HAVE FUN.
09:56:16 >>JIM CREW: THANK YOU.
09:56:19 I JUST WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK ALL THESE
09:56:22 FOLKS THAT I WORKED WITH, ESPECIALLY SHIRLEY, BEST BOSS
09:56:25 TO WORK FOR FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.
09:56:27 I COULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR A BETTER BOSS.
09:56:30 AS I SAID MANY TIMES I AM THE ONLY THORN ON THE BUSH.
09:56:30 [LAUGHTER]
09:56:32 BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK THEM.
09:56:36 I WOULD BE REMISS ALSO IF I DIDN'T THINK MY LOVELY
09:56:37 WIFE.
09:56:41 SHE COULDN'T BE HERE BUT SHE WILL BE HERE TOMORROW WHEN
09:56:42 WE SEE THE MAYOR.
09:56:45 THANK MARIA, 32 YEARS.
09:56:47 THE BEST YEARS OF MY LIFE.
09:56:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:56:55 [APPLAUSE]
09:56:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. VIERA, ARE YOU GOING
09:56:59 DOWN FOR ITEM 4.
09:57:02 >>LUIS VIERA: I AM GOING TO GO DOWNSTAIRS, SIR.
09:57:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU, YOU ARE PART OF THIS
09:57:07 HOUSE AND I SAW YOU BACK THERE.
09:57:12 DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO MR. CREW.
09:57:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK DANIELLE WANTED TO SAY
09:57:15 SOMETHING.
09:57:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DANIELLE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
09:57:20 >> I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE DANIELLE.
09:57:21 LOOKING BACK HERE.
09:57:23 RECOGNIZE DANIELLE.
09:57:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S RIGHT.
09:57:28 MR. SHELBY.
09:57:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAD THE TREMENDOUS PRIVILEGE OF
09:57:32 WORKING WITH JIM FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
09:57:36 AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT I RELY ON HIM, HAVE RELIED
09:57:40 ON HIM, AND I THINK HE HAS SERVED THE CITY COUNCIL VERY
09:57:41 WELL.
09:57:45 HE IS THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL AND I HAVE THE UPMOST
09:57:48 RESPECT FOR HIM AND I AM VERY SAD, FRANKLY, THAT HE IS
09:57:49 LEAVING.
09:57:52 AND I KNOW THAT -- THAT THE WORK WILL CARRY ON.
09:57:54 AND HE HAS SET THE BAR VERY HIGH.
09:57:58 AND HE IS GOING TO BE MISSED BY ME ESPECIALLY.
09:57:59 THANK YOU.
09:58:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
09:58:01 [APPLAUSE]
09:58:06 ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, FOLKS.
09:58:09 AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR CLERK'S
09:58:12 OFFICE AND THEN MISS SHIRLEY WILL HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE
09:58:14 HERE TO DO THE BEST JOB FOR US.
09:58:14 THANK YOU.
09:58:17 YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY.
09:58:19 MR. VIERA, ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:58:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
09:58:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:58:25 MY GREAT PLEASURE TO BE WITH SOME WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL
09:58:26 PEOPLE.
09:58:30 MISS -- YOU KNOW WHAT, BEFORE WE BEGIN, ACTUALLY, MR.
09:58:32 CHAIR, WE HAD A TWO-MINUTE VIDEO ON MEMORIAL DAY.
09:58:35 I WILL LIKE TO ASK THAT OUR FRIENDS BEGIN THAT.
09:58:37 AND THEY ARE.
09:58:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, SIR.
09:58:41 I.T. HAVE THAT VIDEO READY TO GO?
09:58:46 >> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VETERANS DAY AND MEMORIAL
09:58:47 DAY.
09:58:52 WIKIPEDIA SAYS ARMED FORCES DAY IS CELEBRATED ON THIRD
09:58:56 SATURDAY IN MAY TO HONOR AMERICANS WHO ARE CURRENTLY
09:59:00 SERVING IN THE FIVE U.S. MILITARY BRANCHES.
09:59:05 VETERANS DAY IS AN OFFICIAL U.S. PUBLIC HOLIDAY
09:59:10 OBSERVED ANNUALLY ON NOVEMBER 11 THAT HONORS MILITARY
09:59:14 VETERANS, THAT IS PERSONS WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE UNITED
09:59:16 STATES ARMED FORCES.
09:59:20 MEMORIAL DAY IS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY IN THE UNITED STATES
09:59:24 FOR REMEMBERING THE PEOPLE WHO DIED WHILE SERVING IN
09:59:28 THE COUNTRIES ARMED FORCES.
09:59:32 I WANT TO CHALLENGE EACH PERSON TO REMEMBER AND HONOR
09:59:36 OUR FALLEN MILITARY SERVICEMEMBERS, OUR WARRIORS THIS
09:59:40 MEMORIAL DAY BY SETTING AN EMPTY PLACE AT YOUR DINNER
09:59:42 TABLE.
09:59:45 THE EMPTY CHAIR AT THE TABLE REPRESENT THAT THE FALLEN
09:59:47 ARE NOT PRESENT.
09:59:51 SPRINKLE THE PLATE WITH GRAINS THE SALT TO REPRESENT
09:59:54 THE COUNTLESS TEARS OF THE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND COMRADES
10:00:00 IN ARMS THAT MOURN THEIR DEATH AND MISS THEM DEARLY, SO
10:00:06 I CHALLENGE YOU IN THE NAME OF SPECIALIST KOWALL WHO
10:00:10 DIED ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2009 TO SET UP A PLACE OF HONOR
10:00:13 IN REMEMBRANCE AT YOUR TABLE.
10:00:17 I CHALLENGE YOU IN THE NAME OF CORPORATE FRANK ROSE
10:00:20 WHO DIED JULY 16, 2011.
10:00:22 >> I CHALLENGE YOU IN THE NAME OF LANCE CORPORAL
10:00:29 WILLIAM FONZ WHO DIED OCTOBER 16, 1968.
10:00:34 >> I CHALLENGE NEW THE NAME OF DANIEL ANGUS WHO DADE
10:00:35 JANUARY 24, 2010.
10:00:39 >> I CHALLENGE YOU IN THE NAME OF PFC WILLIAM OAKLEY
10:00:42 WHO DIED JULY 28, 1965.
10:00:47 >> I CHALLENGE NEW THE NAME OF SERGEANT LEE MILLS WHO
10:00:52 DADE APRIL 28, 200136 I CHALLENGE YOU IN THE NAME OF
10:00:58 SERGEANT TERRY LISK WHO DIED ON JUNE 26, 2006.
10:01:01 >> PLEASE, THIS MEMORIAL DAY, TAKE THE CHALLENGE AND
10:01:04 SET AN EMPTY PLACE AT YOUR TABLE TO SHOW THAT YOU
10:01:07 UNDERSTAND THAT MEMORIAL DAY MEANS THAT SOMEONE'S
10:01:11 CHILD, SPOUSE, PARENT, SIBLING, FRIEND, MADE THE
10:01:16 ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR YOUR FREEDOM.
10:01:18 >> I CHALLENGE YOU.
10:01:19 >> I CHALLENGE YOU.
10:01:21 >> I CHALLENGE YOU!
10:01:39 >> I CHALLENGE YOU.
10:01:41 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT AND WE HAVE
10:01:42 VERY SPECIAL GUESTS WITH US TODAY.
10:01:47 WE HAVE WHO IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING MISS KELLY KOWALL
10:01:51 IS A LOCAL GOLD STAR MOTHER AND A GREAT AMERICAN WHO
10:01:56 OPERATES MY WARRIOR'S PLACE IN RUSKIN TO HELP POLICE
10:01:58 OFFICERS, FIRE FIGHTERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND THEIR
10:02:00 FAMILIES SUFFERING FROM PTSD.
10:02:07 THE MOTHER OF THE LATE SPECIALIST CORY KOLWALL.
10:02:15 WE HAVE GOLD STAR PARENTS OF PAUL CAZUPPE II KILLED IN
10:02:18 ACTION IN OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM.
10:02:22 THEY ARE HERE TO SPEAK OF MEMORIAL DAY AND I ALWAYS
10:02:25 LIKE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR TO HAVE GOLD STAR PARENTS
10:02:26 WITH US ON MEMORIAL DAY.
10:02:31 MEMORIAL DAY IS MISS KOWALL WILL SPEAK ABOUT A VERY,
10:02:33 VERY SOMBER DAY.
10:02:40 A SOMBER DAY FOR THESE FAMILIES AND SHOULD BE A SOMBER
10:02:42 TE FOR US ALL OF US, KELLY.
10:02:45 >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK LUIS VIERA FOR INVITING US
10:02:46 HERE TODAY.
10:02:49 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY
10:02:50 A FEW WORDS.
10:02:56 AS LUIS SAID I AM KELLY KOWALL AND THE PROUD GOLD STAR
10:03:02 MOTHER OF CORY KOWALL WHO WAS KILLED IN A COMBAT
10:03:05 ANYTHING AFGHANISTAN IN 2009.
10:03:09 AS THE VIEW STATED THREE DIFFERENT HOLIDAYS FOR
10:03:13 AMERICAN HEROES, ARMED FORCES DAY, MEMORIAL DAY AND
10:03:14 VETERANS DAY.
10:03:17 11 YEARS SINCE MY SON'S DEATH, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I
10:03:22 DON'T THINK OF HIM OR HE IS NO LONGER IN MY LIFE.
10:03:27 I AM STILL SO VERY PROUD OF HIM FOR BEING ABLE AND
10:03:30 WILLING TO PUT ON THE UNIFORM AND GO FIGHT FOR OUR
10:03:32 FREEDOMS WE HAVE AS AMERICANS.
10:03:37 AND I AM ALSO SO VERY GRATEFUL THAT THERE IS ONE DAY,
10:03:41 ONE SPECIAL DAY THAT IS DEDICATED TO HONOR ALL THOSE
10:03:46 WHO PUT ON A MILITARY UNIFORM AND DIED WHILE ACTIVELY
10:03:48 SERVING IN THE MILITARY.
10:03:50 THAT IS MEMORIAL DAY.
10:03:54 OUR FALLEN HEROES DESERVE THIS ONE DAY TO BE
10:03:55 REMEMBERED.
10:03:58 IT IS ALSO HURTFUL TO THE FAMILIES OF THE FALLEN TO
10:04:02 HAVE IT TURNED INTO VETERANS DAY.
10:04:06 I IMPLORE EVERYONE PLEASE REMEMBER THE DIFFERENCES OF
10:04:08 THE THREE HOLIDAYS.
10:04:14 TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO DIED WHILE SERVING OUR
10:04:17 COUNTRY AND THE FAMILIES OF THE FALLEN HAVE THIS ONE
10:04:18 SPECIAL DAY.
10:04:22 AND DON'T LET ANYONE USURP IT FROM US.
10:04:27 THANK YOU.
10:04:29 >> IF I CAN JUST SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.
10:04:33 I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK THAT EVERY MEMORIAL DAY
10:04:38 AT 3 P.M., IT IS JUST A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
10:04:42 JUST TAKE THAT ONE MOMENT, TAKE TEN SECONDS, 20
10:04:47 SECONDS, 30 SECONDS, ONE MINUTE, JUST TO REMEMBER ALL
10:04:49 OF THE FALLEN.
10:04:52 IT'S JUST A SHORT TIME.
10:04:56 JUST TO TAKE THAT MOMENT AND JUST THINK ABOUT ALL OF
10:05:02 MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES WHILE SERVING.
10:05:04 YOU MAY NOT KNOW THEM.
10:05:06 AND THAT'S OKAY.
10:05:10 BUT JUST THINK OF THAT BLANK CHECK THAT THEY SIGN.
10:05:15 THANK YOU.
10:05:17 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO THANK THESE FAMILIES
10:05:19 FOR COMING HERE TODAY.
10:05:21 I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO IS WATCHING OVER THE
10:05:24 MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, I KNOW THERE IS MANY EVENTS ON
10:05:25 SUNDAY.
10:05:29 I BELIEVE THERE IS AN EVENT AT OUR WONDERFUL VETERANS
10:05:33 OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PARK ON MONDAY WHICH IS MEMORIAL
10:05:33 DAY.
10:05:37 THERE IS AN EVENT POST 5 AMERICAN LEGION.
10:05:39 ANOTHER EVENT NEAR THE RIVER WALK, I BELIEVE.
10:05:42 BUT JUST TO HONOR THE TRUE MEANING OF MEMORIAL DAY.
10:05:47 MEMORIAL DAY STARTED MAY 1, 1865 IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH
10:05:49 CAROLINA.
10:05:53 WHEN A GROUP OF AFRICAN AMERICANS WANTED TO HONOR ABOUT
10:05:57 257 AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED IN ACTION,
10:06:01 UNION SOLDIERS WHO HAD BEEN KILLED IN ACTION AND DID A
10:06:04 PARADE AND THEN DECK RATED THEIR NEW GRAVES AND CALLED
10:06:06 DECORATION DAY.
10:06:08 EVENTUALLY BECOME MEMORIAL DAY.
10:06:13 BUT THE MEANING FOR US TODAY IS VERY, VERY SOMBER, AND
10:06:15 WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
10:06:16 THANK YOU.
10:06:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY COUNCILMEMBERS?
10:06:19 MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:06:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:24 WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY IS MEMORIAL
10:06:24 DAY.
10:06:29 AND AS HAS BEEN -- AS WHAT WAS JUST SAID, WE MAY NOT
10:06:32 KNOW THEM, THEY THAT HAVE SACRIFICED FOR US, THEY MAY
10:06:35 NOT HAVE KNOWN US, BUT THEY GAVE ACTUAL THIS COUNTRY.
10:06:38 AND WE ARE FREE BECAUSE OF THEM.
10:06:43 AND THERE IS A SAYING THAT SAYS, WE DIE, ONCE WHEN WE
10:06:46 TAKE OUR LAST BREATH, AND ANOTHER TIME WHEN SOMEONE
10:06:49 SAYS OUR NAME FOR THE LAST TIME.
10:06:52 SO WHEN WE REMEMBER THESE FALLEN SOLDIERS, THESE FALLEN
10:06:57 HEROES AND WE STAY THEIR NAMES, WE KEEP THEM ALIVE.
10:06:59 WE KEEP THEIR SPIRITS ALIVE KNOWING THAT THEY DID NOT
10:07:02 DIE IN VAIN.
10:07:06 THEIR SACRIFICE KEEPS AMERICA FREE, OUR COUNTRY GREAT,
10:07:08 EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US TO BECAUSE THEY GAVE
10:07:08 ALL.
10:07:13 SO MEMORIAL DAY IS A SOMBER DAY, AN IMPORTANT DAY AN
10:07:15 SHOULDN'T BE -- AS ALREADY WAS SAID SHOULDN'T BE
10:07:18 CONFUSED WITH THE OTHER DAYS AND WE SHOULD TAKE A
10:07:21 MOMENT EVERY DAY AND REMEMBER THOSE THAT WE KNEW OR DID
10:07:25 NOT KNOW THAT HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES AND SERVICE TO
10:07:26 THIS COUNTRY.
10:07:29 AND, AGAIN, FOR OUR FREEDOMS THAT WE CAN NEVER TAKE FOR
10:07:30 GRANTED.
10:07:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:07:39 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE THREE SONS, SO THESE STORIES
10:07:41 ARE VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME.
10:07:43 I CAN'T IMAGINE THE THINGS THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES
10:07:46 WENT THROUGH -- SORRY TO TEAR UP LIKE THAT.
10:07:50 I WANT TO THANK ALL THE FAMILIES, LIKE YOU, WHO HAVE
10:07:53 MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR OUR COUNTRY AND OUR
10:07:54 WORLD.
10:07:57 I WILL TELL YOU THAT MY THREE SONS AND I WILL
10:07:59 DEFINITELY REMEMBER YOUR CHILDREN AND THE CHILDREN OF
10:08:01 THE OTHERS OUT THERE AND WE WILL BE THINKING WITH YOU
10:08:02 ALL ON MONDAY.
10:08:06 AS MR. MANISCALCO SAID, WE WILL THANK YOU EVERY DAY.
10:08:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:08:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:08:14 WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES FOR THE
10:08:17 SACRIFICES THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN, FOR THE BURDENS YOU HAD
10:08:19 TO BEAR.
10:08:22 BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO
10:08:26 HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES FOR MY FREEDOMS.
10:08:30 FOR MY ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE THINGS I WANT,
10:08:33 VOTE THE WAY I WANT, AND DO SOME OF THE THINGS THE WAY
10:08:35 I WANT.
10:08:37 I THANK THEM FOR MY FREEDOMS.
10:08:39 AND I THANK YOU.
10:08:40 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:08:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
10:08:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:08:54 I THINK IT IS BEYOND WORDS ANYTHING WE CAN SAY TO
10:08:58 APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AND
10:09:01 ALL THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES HAVE MADE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
10:09:04 BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN HERE AND REMINDING US
10:09:09 HOW IMPORTANT THIS TIME IS AND MONDAY IS.
10:09:10 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
10:09:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU TO THE GOLD STAR FAMILY
10:09:17 WHO SUFFERED ENORMOUS SACRIFICES.
10:09:19 YOU KNOW WITHOUT THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE, WITHOUT THE
10:09:22 RIGHT TO SAY WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, THIS
10:09:24 COUNTRY WOULDN'T BE WHAT IT IS.
10:09:27 ONE OF THE FEW COUNTRIES LEFT WHERE YOU CAN STILL SAY
10:09:29 WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE AND HAVE A DIFFERENCE
10:09:31 OF OPINION.
10:09:34 AND DEMOCRACY DOES NOT COME CHEAP.
10:09:38 DEMOCRACY IS WHAT YOU HAVE SUFFERED BECAUSE OF SONS AND
10:09:41 DAUGHTERS THAT HAVE GONE TO THE OTHER WORLD AND I AM
10:09:45 SURE THEY ARE IN HEAVEN AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THIS
10:09:52 COUNTRY CANNOT -- CAN CONTINUE BECAUSE OF GOOD PEOPLE
10:09:53 LIKE YOURSELVES.
10:09:56 THIS COUNTRY MUST COME TOGETHER TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.
10:09:59 WE HAVE ENORMOUS PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WE
10:10:00 HAVEN'T CAUSED OURSELVES.
10:10:02 FROM OUTSIDE OF THIS COUNTRY, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS
10:10:06 THAT ARE BEING DONE TO THIS COUNTRY, TO UNDERTAKE MINE
10:10:09 THE FREEDOM THAT YOU AND I HAVE AND WE HAVE IT ONLY
10:10:13 BECAUSE SOMEONE GAVE THEIR LIFE SO THAT YOU AND I CAN
10:10:15 HAVE AN EXPRESSION OF WHAT THE FUTURE LIES FOR OUR
10:10:17 CHILDREN.
10:10:21 WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED THE PUBLIC AND
10:10:28 WHO HAD TO CARRY A GUN, NOT KNOWING HE MAY COME HOME AT
10:10:31 NIGHT TO YOUR FAMILY.
10:10:34 THE SACRIFICE.
10:10:37 YOUR LOVED ONE'S SACRIFICE TO THIS COUNTRY.
10:10:41 TO HONOR THIS COUNTRY AND TO PROTECT THE FOLKS AND THE
10:10:43 LIBERTIES AND THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY.
10:10:45 IT IS A HECK OF A SACRIFICE, GENTLEMEN.
10:10:49 A HECK OF A SACRIFICE.
10:10:53 WHAT I WILL SAY TO YOU IS THAT THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
10:10:58 YOUR LOVED ONES TO SERVE.
10:10:59 THANK YOU.
10:11:04 MR. VIERA, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT -- ABOUT CIVIL SERVICES
10:11:04 ON MONDAY.
10:11:11 I WILL BE ATTENDING A SERVICE AT WESTHAVEN CEMETERY.
10:11:15 MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY ON 43RD AND ANA.
10:11:20 MR. MELVIN COLLINS IS THE COMMANDER OF THE POST.
10:11:24 AND HIS NEPHEW, MICHAEL COLLINS, I SERVED WITH HIM AT
10:11:25 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:11:28 I WAS HONORED THAT HE CALLED TO ASK FOR ME TO BE A
10:11:30 GUEST SPEAKER AT THE EVENT.
10:11:33 AGAIN, IF THOSE FOLKS CAN GET OUT THIS WEEKEND AND PUT
10:11:37 A FLAG -- I KNOW BEFORE I BECAME A PUBLIC OFFICIAL I
10:11:42 PUT THE FLAGS ON ALL THE SERVICEMEN'S GRAVES AND JUST
10:11:49 READING THE STONES OF THE YEARS, IT WAS VERY IMPACTFUL.
10:11:52 AGAIN, I THANK YOU MR. VIERA FOR ALLOWING THESE FOLKS
10:11:54 TO COME BEFORE US AND SHARE WITH US.
10:11:54 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:11:56 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:12:00 WHEN IS THAT EVENT AT MEMORIAL CEMETERY?
10:12:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOING TO BE MONDAY.
10:12:03 MONDAY AT 11:00.
10:12:05 >>LUIS VIERA: DARN IT.
10:12:07 I HAVE ANOTHER CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER MEMORIAL DAY
10:12:08 EVENT.
10:12:14 BUT THAT -- THAT IS -- IS THAT POST 167 TAKING THAT UP?
10:12:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK SO.
10:12:18 I KNOW --
10:12:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:12:23 THANK YOU.
10:12:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, GO TO PUBLIC
10:12:27 COMMENT.
10:12:30 I BELIEVE WE HAVE A FEW -- HOW MANY DO WE HAVE
10:12:48 DOWNSTAIRS?
10:12:50 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
10:12:54 AS I REFLECT ON MEMORIAL DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING
10:12:59 HONOR AND ATTENTION TO MANY OUT OF THE AFRICAN
10:13:04 COMMUNITY THAT WENT, FOUGHT FOR LIBERTIES AND THINGS
10:13:11 THAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD IMPACT AT THE TIME TO TRANSFORM
10:13:14 AN AMERICA THAT ALL PEOPLE WILL BENEFIT.
10:13:17 WE KNOW HISTORY -- HISTORY HAS SHOWED US THAT THE
10:13:20 STRUGGLE FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY IS AN
10:13:21 ONGOING PROCESS.
10:13:24 ONE YEAR AFTER GEORGE FLOYD -- THE MURDER OF GEORGE
10:13:27 FLOYD, ONE YEAR AFTER THE PANDEMIC THAT I THOUGHT
10:13:31 SOFTENED SOME OF THE HEARTS IN THIS COUNTRY AND STARTED
10:13:34 DEALING WITH SOME OF THE DISPARITIES THAT EXIST.
10:13:39 WE SEE -- WE STILL SEE EXISTING DISPARITIES THAT EXIST
10:13:42 IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF BEING DESCRIBED AS ALMOST
10:13:45 A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.
10:13:49 THE FAILURE OF SO MANY SCHOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY, OF
10:13:54 SUBSTANDARD HOUSING, THE ISSUES OF GUST BEING A FOOD
10:13:55 DESERT.
10:13:59 I COME THIS MORNING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, AGAIN,
10:14:04 THAT EVEN WHEN WE ARE AT THE TABLE AS FAMILY, AND I
10:14:09 HEAR THAT THROWN AROUND A LOT AS WELL, THAT THE
10:14:13 FAMILIES IN EAST TAMPA HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT
10:14:15 FROM CRA FUNDS.
10:14:19 WE STARTED IN OCTOBER WITH $11 MILLION ON THE TABLE,
10:14:25 ONLY TO SEE ABOUT $2 MILLION HAVE BEEN EXTRACTED.
10:14:28 MANY OF IT FOR SERVICES THAT WERE ALREADY ALLOCATED,
10:14:33 AND THIS BOARD HAS ONLY BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE $50,000,
10:14:36 AND THAT IS FOR AN UPCOMING LEADERSHIP TRAINING
10:14:37 ACADEMY.
10:14:42 WHILE WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE
10:14:46 DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHILE WE WATCH HOUSES IN OUR
10:14:51 COMMUNITY THAT ARE SELLING WELL OVER $300,000, WHILE WE
10:14:58 TALK ABOUT HAVING A DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
10:14:59 MANY OF THE HOMES BEING BUILT.
10:15:01 EVEN REHAB HOUSES.
10:15:04 PEOPLE CAN'T UTILIZE THAT ASSISTANCE FUND.
10:15:06 SO IT IS GOOD SEEING ALL SEVEN OF YOU HERE TODAY
10:15:11 BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN MAKING THESE DEMANDS
10:15:20 ONLY TO BE PACIFIED AT OUR MEETING THAT TELL US IT IS A
10:15:25 PROCESS SO EIGHT MONTHS INTO THIS PROCESS, THE FAMILY
10:15:28 OF EAST TAMPA IS LOOKING FOR TANGIBLE RESULTS.
10:15:31 I WANT TO THANK THOSE VOLUNTEERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT
10:15:34 -- TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY THAT IS NOT URBAN
10:15:38 PLANNERS, THAT ARE NOT GETTING PAID A DIME IS MAKING
10:15:41 THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE TO SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO
10:15:42 PUSH THE BALL.
10:15:46 $11 MILLION.
10:15:50 ONLY $2 MILLION BEING SPENT AND ONLY $50,000 OF THAT
10:15:53 HAVE BEEN TOWARD A GUARANTEED LEADERSHIP TRAINING WHEN
10:15:57 WE CAN UTILIZE SO MANY RESOURCES TO UPLIFT OUR
10:16:01 COMMUNITY TOWARD ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP AND TAKE CARE OF
10:16:03 REAL SYSTEMIC THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED OVER AND
10:16:05 OVER AGAIN.
10:16:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:16:10 >> THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE FAMILY OR STEPCHILDREN?
10:16:10 THANK YOU.
10:16:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:16:32 >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:16:36 I WANT TO SAY AND I SAID.BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT
10:16:36 AGAIN.
10:16:37 GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL.
10:16:40 I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS OR WHAT FORM.
10:16:41 THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.
10:16:43 THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:16:46 NEVER DID ANYTHING FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE WITH 26% OF THIS
10:16:47 POPULATION.
10:16:49 WE DON'T ENJOY 26% OF THE GOODNESS.
10:16:52 THESE FOOLS HERE TALKING OF MEMORIAL DAY AND WHAT IT
10:16:54 MEANS AND MEANS IN THE CONTEXT OF PEOPLE GOING TO WAR
10:16:57 AND BEING AGGRESS STOVE OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES
10:17:00 AND TALKING OF THEIR FREEDOM AND WE ARE RIGHT HERE AND
10:17:03 WE DON'T GOT NO DAMN FREEDOM.
10:17:04 WE AIN'T GOT NO FREEDOM.
10:17:06 WE AIN'T GOT NO CIVIL RIGHTS.
10:17:09 WE AIN'T GOT NO HUMAN RIGHTS.
10:17:10 WE GOT NOTHING.
10:17:12 ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOTHING.
10:17:15 WE AFRICAN PEOPLE NEED TO RESTART THE -- IT IS
10:17:17 HONORABLE THAT THE PERSON RECOGNIZED THAT MEMORIAL DAY
10:17:21 WAS STARTED BY AFRICAN PEOPLE, BUT WE NEED TO RESTART
10:17:24 THIS MEMORIAL DAY FOR ALL THE AFRICAN WOMEN AND ALL THE
10:17:29 AFRICAN MEN, ALL THE AFRICAN MOTHERS, ALL THE AFRICAN
10:17:33 FATHERS LOCKED UP IN THESE STINKING PRISONS ALL OVER
10:17:34 THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
10:17:36 ALL THIS FREEDOM.
10:17:38 NO FREEDOM FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:17:40 WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET FOR FREE DOOM.
10:17:42 BEGGING FOR FREEDOM.
10:17:44 TRYING TO INTEGRATE FOR FREEDOM.
10:17:47 WE HAVE BEEN DOING DIFFERENT THINGS TO GET FREEDOM AND
10:17:50 A SEMBLANCE OF FREEDOM BUT NO FREEDOM FOR AFRICAN
10:17:50 PEOPLE.
10:17:54 WHAT WE NEED IT, WE NEED REPARATIONS AND WE NEED A
10:17:55 NUCLEAR WEAPON.
10:17:59 WE NEED OUR REPARATIONS, $621 TRILLION OF IT.
10:18:05 AND WE NEED A NUCLEAR WEAPON THAT NUCLEAR WEAPON WILL
10:18:08 GIVE THE RESPECT WITH WE NEED.
10:18:12 THE BLACK NUCLEAR WEAPON WHAT AND IN PALESTINE.
10:18:14 WHAT HAPPENED IN PALESTINE WON'T HAPPEN TO US.
10:18:17 IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING TO US 621 YEARS ALL OVER THE
10:18:18 WORLD.
10:18:21 THAT BLACK NUCLEAR WEAPON IN OUR HAND AMONGST OUR
10:18:24 PEOPLE WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT IS TIME FOR US TO
10:18:24 BE RESPECTED.
10:18:26 IT IS TIME FOR US TO BE RESPECTED.
10:18:28 WE CAN'T KEEP ON AT THIS PACE.
10:18:34 YOU CAN'T LIVE YOUR LIFE FROM ZERO TO WHATSOEVER FROM
10:18:38 ZERO TO DEATH AND NEVER SEE ANY SEMBLANCE.
10:18:40 ANY SEMBLANCE OF DIGNITY.
10:18:42 ANY SEMBLANCE OF DIGNITY.
10:18:43 ONE THING TO ANOTHER.
10:18:44 ONE CRISIS TO THE OTHER.
10:18:47 YOU UNDERSTAND IF NOT GEORGE FLOYD,S IS SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:18:48 SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:18:50 MR. GREEN DYING BY ROBLES PARK.
10:18:51 OTHER THINGS.
10:18:52 ALWAYS GOING ON.
10:18:53 IT IS ONGOING.
10:18:54 IT IS ONGOING.
10:18:58 JONAS BEING SHOT 60 SOMETHING TIME BY THAT GARBAGE
10:19:00 POLICE DEPARTMENT YOU HAD SITTING UP IN HERE TODAY.
10:19:04 YOUNG LADY DYING BECAUSE THE PARAMEDICS -- GARBAGE
10:19:07 PARAMEDICS WON'T TAKE HER TO THE HOSPITAL AND GARBAGE
10:19:08 FOOLS GOT THEIR JOBS BACK.
10:19:11 NO, MAN, WE NEED REPARATIONS AND WE NEED A NUCLEAR
10:19:12 WEAPON.
10:19:14 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:19:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:19:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ED INTO MORNING, STATE YOUR NAME FOR
10:19:43 US.
10:19:47 >> MY NAME IS TIFFANY AND GO BY MAKING MOVES ON SOCIAL
10:19:48 MEDIA.
10:19:52 I AM NEW TO THIS, HOWEVER, I AM A BLACK WOMAN.
10:19:55 I'M HERE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:20:00 I JUST MET MISS CONNIE AND HOWEVER I SAY I STAND BY
10:20:03 WHAT IT IS SHE STANDS FOR.
10:20:06 I WILL EDUCATE MYSELF ON WHAT IT IS I DON'T KNOW IN
10:20:08 ORDER TO HELP OUR BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:20:12 BUT MY POSITION AND MY TAKE ON ALL OF THIS IS, IF WE
10:20:14 ARE A COMMUNITY, IT IS NOT ABOUT COLOR AND NOT ABOUT
10:20:17 RACE, IT IS ABOUT UNITY.
10:20:19 NO MATTER THE COLOR AND THE RACE.
10:20:23 NOW, IF I HAVE TO STAND TO FIGHT FOR OUR BLACK
10:20:26 COMMUNITY, I THINK THE COMMUNICATION IS BEING LOST
10:20:33 BECAUSE ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR IS PEACE UNITY.
10:20:39 WE ARE BUILD OUR OWN BLACK COMMUNITY IF THAT IS WHAT IT
10:20:39 CALLS FOR.
10:20:44 MY TAKE ON IT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF ENTREPRENEURS LIKE
10:20:44 MYSELF.
10:20:48 I HAVE MY OWN PRODUCTION COMPANY.
10:20:50 AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ENTREPRENEURS.
10:20:55 I HAVE SIX ENTREPRENEURS FROM THE AGE OF 15, 13, 9, 7,
10:20:56 4 AND 2.
10:21:00 AND WE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN OUR CHILDREN.
10:21:04 BECAUSE THE SYSTEM OF TEACHING OUR CHILDREN IS NOT
10:21:05 CORRECT.
10:21:08 BECAUSE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES NOT TEACH US ABOUT
10:21:09 CREDIT.
10:21:12 THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES NOT SEARCH US ABOUT BUYING
10:21:12 PROPERTY.
10:21:15 THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES NOT TEACH US ABOUT A LOT OF
10:21:17 THINGS THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE AHEAD OF US.
10:21:21 NOW WHEN I SAY "WHITE PEOPLE" I SAY THAT ONLY IN THE
10:21:24 FORM OF OUR BLACK COMMUNITY FEEL LIKE THE WHITE PEOPLE
10:21:26 HAVE SO MUCH POWER, BUT THEY DON'T.
10:21:27 WE HAVE EQUAL POWER.
10:21:29 IT IS ALL ABOUT KNOWLEDGE, OKAY.
10:21:34 AND WHEN WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE, CAN'T NOBODY TAKE ANYTHING
10:21:36 PHYSICALLY AWAY FROM US.
10:21:40 BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU DO, WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO GO GET
10:21:41 IT AGAIN.
10:21:43 AND THAT IS WHAT I STAND FOR.
10:21:47 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN EITHER DO THIS
10:21:50 PEACEFULLY AND WORK TOGETHER AND BUILD THIS COMMUNITY
10:21:54 TOGETHER OR WE WILL BUILD A BLACK COMMUNITY WITHOUT
10:21:55 YOUR PERMISSION.
10:21:57 AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND.
10:22:02 NOW MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL IS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?
10:22:06 BECAUSE WE ARE WILLING TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:22:08 I DON'T WANT TO COME HERE AND MAKE DEMANDS.
10:22:12 I WANT TO COME HERE AND PUT IN ACTION.
10:22:13 ACTION.
10:22:16 SO ALL I AM ASKING IS WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE TO START
10:22:20 THE PROCESS OF WORKING TOGETHER.
10:22:27 FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S ALL I ASK.
10:22:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:22:29 WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
10:22:32 IF YOU WANT SOME ANSWERS, CALL MY OFFICE AND MY OFFICE
10:22:35 WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT YOU
10:22:36 CAN DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:22:37 >> THANK YOU.
10:22:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR COMING.
10:22:45 >> NO MORE SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.
10:22:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO MORE SPEAKERS.
10:22:49 ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS?
10:22:54 >> YES, SULING LUCAS, DEPUTY CLERK.
10:23:00 STEPHANIE POYNOR SAID SHE WOULD NOT BE SPEAKING AND MR.
10:23:02 SHAWN BROWN IS NOT LOGGED ON.
10:23:06 MISS JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:23:08 IF YOU HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:23:16 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:23:21 JEAN STROHMEYER, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
10:23:23 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:23:28 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:23:30 >> DID STEPHANIE TALK YET?
10:23:32 I DON'T THINK STEPHANIE DID.
10:23:33 I GOT INTERRUPTED.
10:23:34 CAN YOU HEAR ME.
10:23:36 >>CLERK: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:23:38 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:23:41 >> I AM JEAN STROHMEYER.
10:23:43 THAT MEMORIAL VIDEO WAS AWESOME.
10:23:47 BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES AND IF CITY COUNCIL CAN PUT IT
10:23:50 ON THE TAMPA WEB SITE OR CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE IT
10:23:50 SHAREABLE.
10:23:53 IT IS JUST REALLY GOOD AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT
10:23:54 ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA.
10:23:55 LET'S SEE.
10:23:59 I'M HERE TODAY ON A FEW ISSUES.
10:24:04 FIRST, I SENT EVERYBODY A WEEKLY REVIEW.
10:24:07 AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ONE ITEM
10:24:16 THAT I SPOKE ABOUT 8 AND 9 THAT MAY HAVE COME ACROSS AS
10:24:19 PREJUDICIAL OR OFFENSIVE AND I DON'T KNOW, THAT WAS NOT
10:24:20 MY INTENTION.
10:24:24 I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE NO PREJUDICE AT ALL.
10:24:29 I MARRIED A -- 23 YEARS AGO I MARRIED A BLACK MAN, SO
10:24:31 FRANKLY I HAVE NO ISSUES.
10:24:35 THAT WAS BEFORE IT WAS IN VOGUE AND I LOVE ALL PEOPLE.
10:24:39 SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE CREATED TO BE -- TO BE
10:24:41 TREATED EQUALLY.
10:24:47 MY ISSUE -- I AM CALLING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER -- LET'S SEE
10:24:50 THE -- JESUS, I WASN'T PREPARED.
10:24:55 ON -- THE 10 AND 11, LIMITING CITY COUNCIL POWER NOT
10:24:58 QUITE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I WOULD LIKE -- IT
10:25:00 JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
10:25:04 GOVERNMENT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY RELINQUISH POWER.
10:25:07 SO I AM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT IS ABOUT.
10:25:09 I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
10:25:12 I SENT AN E-MAIL ON THAT TO EVERYBODY.
10:25:16 ALSO, I AM SPEAKING AGAINST -- AND JUST -- I KNOW THIS
10:25:20 IS A WORKSHOP, BUT ITEMS 5 AND 6.
10:25:22 NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU CALL IT, I THINK IT IS
10:25:25 UNNECESSARY, EXPENSIVE AND PRETTY DISGUSTING.
10:25:26 WE HAVE PLENTY OF WATER.
10:25:30 WE HAVE A ROBUST RAINY SEASON MOST OF THE TIME.
10:25:34 AND WE SOMETIMES HAVE 46 DAYS OF STRAIGHT RAIN.
10:25:38 AND THAT USUALLY MAKES UP FOR WHEN WE DO HAVE DRY
10:25:40 SEASONS LIKE WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW.
10:25:43 NO RAIN AT ALL.
10:25:45 NONE IN SIGHT.
10:25:50 I JUST FEEL THAT -- TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT AND --
10:25:51 YEAH.
10:25:54 A LOT OF PEOPLE -- THAT THEY ARE SAYING -- A LOT OF
10:25:57 PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE ARE GOING TO LEAVE ONCE THE
10:25:58 HURRICANE SEASON STARTS.
10:26:00 ER IN NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE HURRICANE SEASON.
10:26:03 I HAD A FRIEND MOVE HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THE
10:26:07 MOSQUITOES ALONE SENT HER BACK TO NEVADA.
10:26:11 PEOPLE GO BACK -- WE WILL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
10:26:13 I THINK THAT IS IT.
10:26:15 I AM GOING TO HAVE MY VACATION NOW.
10:26:17 HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:26:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, JEAN.
10:26:22 GENTLEMEN, I NEED TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS ON A
10:26:23 COUPLE OF ISSUE.
10:32:12 TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTES AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
10:32:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
10:32:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:32:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
10:32:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
10:32:21 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:32:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:32:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:32:26 >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:32:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
10:32:32 GO TO ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:32:36 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, THE
10:32:43 OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
10:32:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TURN IT ON, JAN.
10:32:49 YOUR MIC IS NOT ON.
10:32:50 >> OKAY.
10:32:54 I AM STILL TRAINABLE EVEN AT MY AGE.
10:32:57 JAN MCLEAN WITH THE OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE
10:33:00 YOU A REPORT ON A RECENTLY PASSED PIECE OF LEGISLATION
10:33:06 COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE RECLAIM BILL, SENATE BILL 64.
10:33:10 THIS -- THE SUBJECT MATTER, OF COURSE, WHEN OFF A BILL
10:33:13 SHOULD ONLY BE OF ONE SUBJECT MATTER AND THIS BILL
10:33:17 SUBJECT MATTER IS RECLAIM WATER; HOWEVER, THERE ARE
10:33:20 THREE PRIMARY AREAS THAT THIS BILL COVERS.
10:33:24 AND ONE IS THE REDUCTION AND ELIMINATION OF DISCHARGE
10:33:30 OF EFFLUENT RECLAIMED WATER OR REUSE WATER TO SURFACE
10:33:30 WATERS.
10:33:33 THE SEND AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE LEGISLATION
10:33:35 IS POTABLE REUSE.
10:33:39 AND THE ALTERNATE WATER SUPPLY AND ALTERNATIVE WATER
10:33:41 SUPPLY FINANCING IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF
10:33:44 RECLAIMED WATER FOR POTABLE REDUCE REUSE.
10:33:48 AND THE THIRD SECTION OF THE BILL IS THE GRAY WATER
10:33:52 TECHNOLOGIES INCENTIVIZATION FOR RESIDENTIAL
10:33:55 DEVELOPMENT USE OF GRAY WATER TECHNOLOGY.
10:33:59 THE BILL AT THIS TIME HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED TO THE
10:34:04 GOVERNOR, AT LEAST NOT AT THE LAST CHECK OF THE
10:34:07 INTERNET AND CHECKING WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS.
10:34:11 AND IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE UPON BECOMING LAW.
10:34:16 SO UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, A BILL BECOMES EFFECTIVE IF
10:34:20 IT IS PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNOR DURING THE COURSE OF
10:34:25 THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND HE HAS SEVEN DAYS TO ACT ON
10:34:26 IT.
10:34:29 IF THE SESSION IS COMPLETED AND MORE THAN A 30-DAY
10:34:32 ADJOURNMENT, HE HAS 15 DAYS TO ACT ON IT.
10:34:37 OTHERWISE A BILL BECOMES LAW ON THE 60TH DAY AFTER THE
10:34:40 ADJOURNMENT SINE DIE OF THE LEGISLATION.
10:34:43 AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE ARE AWAITING THE EFFECTIVE
10:34:46 DATE OF THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
10:34:47 I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH IT.
10:34:51 I AM -- IT IS A RATHER DETAILED BILL.
10:34:53 IT'S DIFFICULT NOT TO GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS WITHOUT
10:34:57 GETTING INTO THE WEEDS, BUT I WILL TRY TO KEEP IT AT
10:34:59 SUCH A LEVEL.
10:35:02 AND PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STOP AND ASK ME
10:35:06 QUESTIONS AS I GO THROUGH IT, FEEL FREE TO DO THAT.
10:35:10 THE FIRST SECTION OF THE BILL DOES ESTABLISH A TIME
10:35:16 LINE AND A PLAN FOR WASTEWATER UTILITIES THAT DISPOSE
10:35:20 OF EFFLUENT RECLAIMED WATER OR REUSE WATER BY SURFACE
10:35:22 WATER DISCHARGES.
10:35:24 WE SHALL SUBMIT A PLAN TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
10:35:28 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION BY NOVEMBER 1 OF THIS YEAR,
10:35:31 WHICH IS A VERY ACCELERATED TIMELINE FOR ANY UTILITY
10:35:37 LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF A PLAN TO DEP.
10:35:44 THE PLAN MUST INCLUDE AND VERY SPECIFIC AND IDENTIFY WE
10:35:49 -- I AM GOING TO SAY "WE" THIS IS APPLICABLE TO THE
10:35:52 CITY OF TAMPA AND MAY BE OTHER PIECES OF THE
10:35:55 LEGISLATION THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO THE
10:35:59 CITY, BUT THIS SECTION CERTAINLY IS.
10:36:03 SO THE PLAN MUST INCLUDE THE AVERAGE GALLONS ELIMINATED
10:36:06 FROM THE SURFACE WATER DISCHARGE, THE DATE OF SUCH
10:36:07 ELIMINATION.
10:36:11 THE AVERAGE GALLONS OF THE DISCHARGE THAT MAY CONTINUE
10:36:15 WHEN IT FALLS WITHIN THE EXCEPTIONS HERE UNDER THE
10:36:16 LEGISLATION.
10:36:22 THE DISCHARGE ASSOCIATED WITH INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE
10:36:23 PROJECT.
10:36:27 IF THE -- IF THE WET WEATHER DISCHARGE IS PURSUANT TO A
10:36:29 FDEP PERMIT.
10:36:32 AND IF THE DISCHARGE IS IN A STORMWATER SYSTEM AND USED
10:36:33 FOR IRRIGATION.
10:36:39 OR IF IT IS REUSED 90% OF THE AVERAGE ANNUAL FLOW.
10:36:43 OR IF THE DISCHARGE PROVIDES DIRECT ECOLOGICAL OR
10:36:46 PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY BENEFITS THAT IS REHYDRATING
10:36:53 WETLANDS OAR MFL OR RECOVERY STRATEGY.
10:36:57 ALL OF THOSE ITEMS MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN AS FAR
10:37:02 AS WHAT WE SUBMIT TO DEP.
10:37:06 THE PLAN MUST INCLUDE -- THE PLAN, EXCUSE ME, MAY
10:37:10 INCLUDE CONCEPTUAL PROJECTS, BUT THE PROJECTS THAT
10:37:13 IDENTIFY THE ELIMINATION AND REDUCTION OF THE DISCHARGE
10:37:17 ARE CONCEPTUAL, THE LACK OF SPECIFICITY DOES NOT EXTEND
10:37:25 THE TIME OF THE PLAN TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
10:37:29 THE DEP MUST TAKE ACTION ON THE PLAN, APPROVE AND DENY
10:37:31 WITHIN NINE MONTHS AFTER THE RECEIPT OF THE PLAN.
10:37:39 THE DEP MAY NOT EXTEND THE TIME FOR THE RECEIPT OF THE
10:37:45 PLAN NOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN AND NOT
10:37:50 CHALLENGE UNDER AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDING UNDER
10:37:54 CHAPTER 120.
10:37:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:38:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU WILL EXPLAIN TO US IRS
10:38:03 MCLEAN, WHAT THE 90% OF FLOW MEANS.
10:38:07 >> IF WE ARE -- IF WE TAKE HYPOTHETICALS, IF WE HAVE
10:38:14 100% ANNUAL AVERAGE MGD DISCHARGE, IF WE REUSE 90% OF
10:38:23 THAT, THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY OF -- OF INCLUDING THAT
10:38:30 IN OUR PLAN AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO NOT NECESSARILY
10:38:35 COMPLETE THE PLAN BY -- WITHIN A CERTAIN DATE.
10:38:38 SO THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IF YOU USE YOUR
10:38:42 DISCHARGE, IF YOU REUSE 90% OF YOUR DISCHARGE, THAT IS
10:38:45 A BENEFIT TO YOU AS ONE OF THE EXEMPTIONS.
10:38:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO ABOUT 60, 65 MILLION GALLONS A
10:38:54 DAY, IF YOU USE 90% OF THAT, WHAT HAPPENS?
10:38:57 IN LAYMAN'S TERM?
10:38:59 >> I AM GOING TO BE REFERRING BACK TO THE LEGISLATION
10:39:06 BECAUSE I HAVEN'T COMMITTED IT TO MEMORY LIKE CATECHISM
10:39:08 AND READINGS.
10:39:10 I APOLOGIZE.
10:39:20 IT'S -- OKAY.
10:39:23 THE DEPARTMENT SHALL APPROVE A PLAN THAT INCLUDES ALL
10:39:25 -- SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IF THAT IS
10:39:29 INCLUDED IN THE PLAN, THAT THE -- THE DEPARTMENT WILL
10:39:34 APPROVE THE DEPARTMENT SHALL APPROVE A PLAN OF ALL THE
10:39:38 INFORMATION REQUIRED UNDER THE SUBSECTIONS OF MEETING
10:39:39 REQUIREMENT OF THE SUBSECTIONS INVOLVED.
10:39:42 IF ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET.
10:39:45 ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS IS THAT IF THE UTILITY OPERATES
10:39:53 A DOMESTIC WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY WATER REUSE
10:39:58 SYSTEMS OF 9% AS DETERMINED BY THE DEPARTMENT USING
10:40:02 MONITORING DATA FOR THE PRIOR FIVE CONSECUTIVE YEARS
10:40:05 FOR REUSE BURNS AUTHORIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
10:40:09 SOMEBODY APPROVE THE PLAN.
10:40:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE WORD "SHALL" IS REAL STRONG,
10:40:16 BUT I GUESS THAT IS THEIR LANGUAGE, NOT OURS.
10:40:16 >> YES.
10:40:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:40:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. CARLSON.
10:40:24 >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE WE OPENED IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
10:40:26 THE DEFINITION OF THIS -- THE CITY ALREADY PARTIALLY
10:40:31 TREATS ITS WASTEWATER AND PUTS IT INTO THE BAY, RIGHT?
10:40:36 AS -- AND THE DEFINITION OF THE NEW LEGISLATION, WHAT
10:40:38 -- WHAT IS COUNTED UNDERSTAND?
10:40:40 SO ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED
10:40:44 LATER IS TREATING IT ALL THE WAY TO DRINKING WATER
10:40:49 QUALITY STANDARDS SO TWO-PART QUESTION, THE PARTIALLY
10:40:53 TREATED WATER COUNTS UNDER THIS.
10:40:56 AND IF WE TREATED IT COMPLETELY -- DRINKING WATER
10:41:01 STANDARDS DURING BAY, DO WE HAVE TO STILL FILE IN
10:41:02 REPORT BECAUSE OF THE SOURCE OF IT?
10:41:03 THE SOURCE OF IT?
10:41:06 OR WHILE IT IS TREATED AT THE OTHER ENDS.
10:41:08 >> ACTUALLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT REUSED.
10:41:11 IT IS DETERMINED, PREDETERMINED THAT BECAUSE IT IS
10:41:15 RECLAIMED WATER IT IS ADVANCE TREATED RECLAIMED WATER
10:41:18 GOING INTO THE BAY THAT IS NOT BEING USED FOR A
10:41:22 BENEFICIAL PURPOSE, IT IS JUST BEING DISCHARGED INTO A
10:41:26 SURFACE WATER, WHEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN.
10:41:29 SO FOR INSTANCE -- I KNOW WE ARE JUMPING AHEAD, BUT,
10:41:32 FOR INSTANCE, IF WE FINDS A PROJECT THAT INCORPORATES
10:41:37 THE USE OF ALL OR A PORTION OF THE RECLAIMED WATER
10:41:41 WHICH IS WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO PUT IN OUR PLANS TO BE
10:41:45 SUBMITTED TO D EP, IT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH A
10:41:49 STATUTE THAT IS NEARLY CREATED UNDER THIS LEGISLATION.
10:41:51 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST FOLLOW-ON.
10:41:54 ONE OF THE POSSIBILITIES THAT WE COULD TALK TO TAMPA
10:41:57 BAY ESTUARY AND SAY THAT THE FLOW OF THIS WATER IS
10:42:01 BENEFICIAL TO THE ESTUARY AND LIFE IN THE BAY.
10:42:03 IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE FORM?
10:42:06 OR DISCOUNTING THAT MUCH COMPLETELY AN SAY WE HAVE TO
10:42:08 USE IT FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE.
10:42:10 >> UNDER THE LEGISLATION THAT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW,
10:42:13 THERE HAVEN'T BEEN -- IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED
10:42:13 BENEFICIAL.
10:42:18 WE WOULD HAVE TO ARGUE THAT POINT BUT THE PRESUMPTION
10:42:22 IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT BEING REUSED, THEN IT IS NOT
10:42:24 BENEFICIAL.
10:42:28 SO WE COULD -- I WOULDN'T PREDISPOSE OR PREVENT
10:42:29 ANYTHING FROM HAPPENING.
10:42:33 WE COULD ALWAYS ARGUE THAT IT'S A BENEFICIAL DISCHARGE
10:42:36 TO THE BAY, BUT UNDER THE RULES ON THE PAPER, UNDER THE
10:42:41 LEGISLATION, THAT WOULDN'T COUNT.
10:42:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR HAND FIRST.
10:42:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SEE A HAND ON THE TABLE THAT IS
10:42:50 IN THE WAR ROOM, I GUESS.
10:42:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMEBODY IS A HAND UP?
10:42:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM?
10:43:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BRAD, JOE, JEAN?
10:43:01 >> I DON'T SEE HANDS.
10:43:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THOUGHT I SAW A HAND .
10:43:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:43:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MCLEAN PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO
10:43:13 ARE SAYING, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?
10:43:17 WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR WATER, RECLAIMED WATER.
10:43:19 PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY DUMP IT INTO THE BAY.
10:43:23 CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT WE DO WITH USUALLY DO WITH THIS
10:43:24 TYPE OF WATER?
10:43:24 >> SURE.
10:43:28 WE DO HAVE A PORTION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATED IN OUR
10:43:30 WASTEWATER PLANT IS USED FOR RECLAIMED WATER.
10:43:33 WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT IS IN A PORTION OF SOUTH TAMPA
10:43:36 THAT HAS RECLAIMED WATER FOR IRRIGATION.
10:43:42 WE DO PROVIDE RECLAIMED WATER FOR SOME INDUSTRIES OVER
10:43:46 IN THE PORT AREA, AND WE PROVIDE RECLAIMED WATER TO THE
10:43:49 AVIATION AUTHORITY FOR THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.
10:43:52 AND I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL.
10:43:55 SO WE DO HAVE RECLAIMED WATER USE FOR INDUSTRIAL AND
10:43:57 IRRIGATION USE.
10:43:59 HOWEVER, WE DON'T USE ALL OF IT.
10:44:05 AND SO THE REMAINDER OF THAT WASTEWATER THAT IS TREATED
10:44:09 WITH ADVANCED TREATMENT IS DISCHARGED INTO HILLSBOROUGH
10:44:12 BAY IN COMPLIANCE, I MAY SAY, WITH FEDERAL AND STATE
10:44:19 ISSUED PERMITS FOR NATIONAL POLLUTION ELIMINATION.
10:44:20 SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
10:44:24 AND WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING LIKE THAT FOR MANY YEARS.
10:44:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE CAN ARGUE -- "WE" MEANING THE CITY
10:44:31 CAN ARGUE THAT THIS RECLAIMED WATER THAT WE HAVE BEEN
10:44:38 FILTERING BACK INTO THE BAY IS BETTER THAN ANY TYPE OF
10:44:41 STORMWATER, JUST RUNNING -- WATER RUNNING OFF THE LAND
10:44:45 FROM FERTILIZERS AND FREE OF OILS AND OTHER TYPES OF
10:44:46 MINERALS THAT GO INTO THE BAY.
10:44:49 AND WE CAN ALSO ARGUE THAT OUR BAY IS PROBABLY THE
10:44:52 CLEANEST IT HAS BEEN IN THE LAST 40 YEARS BECAUSE OF
10:44:53 THIS.
10:44:56 AND WE CAN ALSO ARGUE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T
10:44:59 LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO LIVE IN OTHER CITIES
10:44:59 AROUND FLORIDA.
10:45:02 I AM GETTING TO A POINT.
10:45:05 THEY ARE DICTATING WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING.
10:45:10 SO WE CAN ARGUE THAT THIS IS VIOLATING HOME RULE.
10:45:14 I WILL STOP THERE AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS NOD YES OR
10:45:15 NO.
10:45:17 >> I WILL JUST MOVE TONIGHT NEXT SECTION.
10:45:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:45:21 SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET NEW THE CROSSHAIRS OF MY --
10:45:23 MY HOME RULE, BUT JUST --
10:45:25 >> NOT AT ALL.
10:45:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST MAKING MY SELF CLEAR.
10:45:28 >> NOT AT ALL.
10:45:31 I'M HERE AS A PUBLIC SERVANT IN A MUNICIPALITY THAT
10:45:33 PROTECTS OUR HOME RULE.
10:45:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:45:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:45:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG WITH WHAT MR. CITRO SAID AND
10:45:45 MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT THE BAY IS JUST AS CLEAN AS IT
10:45:46 WAS IN THE '50S.
10:45:51 AND THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE IS EQUAL TO -- SUM IS EQUAL
10:45:54 TO OR GREATER THEN BECAUSE THE WATER WE HAVE PUT IN
10:45:57 THERE AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS SAID HERE YEARS AGO AND I
10:46:00 AM NOT CERTAIN AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL NUMBERS, BUT FROM
10:46:04 WHAT I REMEMBER, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS DONE AN
10:46:10 OUTSTANDING -- THIS IS AN ADVANCED TERTIARY TREATMENT
10:46:15 PLANT AND SOMETHING THAT FEW OTHERS HAVE THIS.
10:46:16 AND I HOPE I AM CORRECT.
10:46:22 THIS ADVANCED TERTIARY PLANT AND PACK IN DICK GRECO'S
10:46:24 FIRST ADMINISTRATION A $200 MILLION GRANT GIVEN TO THE
10:46:28 CITY AND ANOTHER CITY ACROSS THE BAY AND I AM NOT GOING
10:46:31 TO NAME IT AND THEY CHOSE TO GO INTO A DISTRIBUTION
10:46:33 SYSTEM WHICH IS FINE.
10:46:37 MAJOR GRECO CHOSE TO EXPAND THE PLAN BY 30 MILLION
10:46:43 GALLONS OR 25 MILLION GALLON, AND WE HAVE THE
10:46:46 CAPABILITY OF INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF -- LET'S FACE
10:46:47 IT.
10:46:50 NUMBER TWO WATER AND NUMBER ONE WATER AND ALL DIRTY
10:46:54 WATERS THAT GO THROUGH THAT COME OUT AT THE OTHER END
10:46:58 OF THAT TERTIARY TREATMENT PLANT AS PRISTINE AS YOU CAN
10:47:02 DROP A DIME FROM 18 FEET DOWN AND WATCH THE DIME GO ALL
10:47:03 THE WAY DOWN.
10:47:04 DRINKING WATER THERE?
10:47:08 NO, AND EQUAL TO 90% OF THE WORLD'S DRINKING WATER THAT
10:47:12 SOMEONE IS DRINKING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE DON'T WANT TO
10:47:16 DRINK THAT WATER 90% AND THE CITY OF TAMPA SITS ON A
10:47:20 VAST AMOUNT OF 55 TO 60 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF
10:47:23 RECLAIMED WATER IT IS USING NOW TO STABILIZE THE BAY
10:47:26 AND HAVE DONE THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND ALL THE
10:47:33 MAYORS HAVE DONE THAT, CONTINUED THAT PROCESS AND
10:47:36 CREDIT TO EVERY MAYOR WHO SERVED THE CITY OF TAMPA THEY
10:47:38 HAD THE FORESIGHT AND THE VISION TO DO THAT AND THANK
10:47:41 THE MAYORS AND THE CITIZENS FOR DOING THAT.
10:47:42 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO
10:47:44 SAY.
10:47:46 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST.
10:47:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZE.
10:47:54 >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY WHO DON'T WANT TO DRINK POOPY
10:47:58 WATER CALL THE GOVERNOR AND PROTECT HOME RULE AND ASK
10:47:59 THE GOVERNOR TO VETO THIS.
10:48:01 BUT THE SECOND THING -- AND WE CAN GET INTO THE WEEDS
10:48:05 MORE LATER, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE IN THE BEGINNING THERE
10:48:08 WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL EXEMPTION.
10:48:11 AND I KNOW LATER, WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MINIMUM
10:48:15 FLOWS AND THE RIVER AND ALSO SALT WATER INTRUSION, BUT
10:48:18 DO YOU THINK HYPOTHETICALLY THAT AN ARGUMENT COULD BE
10:48:25 MADE THAT BASED ON WHAT MR. MIRANDA JUST SAID THAT THIS
10:48:29 CLEAN WATER PUT IN THE BAY HAVE HELPED REJUVENATE THE
10:48:34 BAY AND MY OTHER COLLEAGUE SAY THE BAY IS BETTER AND
10:48:37 COULD WE SAYS IT ALREADY AN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT AND
10:48:39 NOT SPEND $1 BILLION.
10:48:42 >> LIKE YOU SAY, YOU GET A LAWYER YOU CAN MAKE ALL
10:48:45 KINDS OF ARGUMENTS.
10:48:47 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
10:48:51 >> I KNOW THE UPGRADE OF THE HOWARD F. CURRAN PLANT WAS
10:48:53 THE RECOVERY OF TAMPA BAY.
10:48:56 AND WE DID ACHIEVE THE ACRES OF SEAGRASSES THAT WERE
10:49:01 THERE IN THE BAY AS OF 1950 UP UNTIL A COUPLE OF YEARS
10:49:05 AGO, THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND I AM SURE EVERYBODY
10:49:09 HAS SEEN THE PRESS RELEASE AND WE HAVE LOST ACREAGE IN
10:49:12 SPECIFIC LOCATIONS AND WE HAVE GOT -- THERE IS AN
10:49:15 AWESOME ORGANIZATION THAT THE CITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
10:49:18 PARTICIPANT IN CALLED THE NITROGEN MANAGEMENT
10:49:21 CONSORTIUM THAT IS PART OF THE TAMPA BAY ESTUARY
10:49:22 PROGRAM.
10:49:25 AND WE MET YESTERDAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC AMONG
10:49:29 OTHER THINGS ABOUT THE -- THE STATUS OF THE SEAGRASSES
10:49:32 AND WHAT COULD BE OCCURRING THAT COULD BE AFFECTING
10:49:36 THEM THAT WE WERE SEEING THE LOSS.
10:49:41 SO IT IS NOT IN THE LOCATIONS NECESSARILY OF --
10:49:45 TRUTHFULLY OF WHERE CURRAN IS CURRENTLY.
10:49:50 AND THERE WILL BE MORE DISCUSSION AS FAR AS WHAT THAT
10:49:54 DISCHARGE DOES OR DOES NOT PROVIDE TO THE BAY AS WE
10:49:59 MOVE ALONG.
10:50:01 BUT THE FOCUS OF THE BILL IS ESSENTIALLY -- NOT JUST
10:50:07 OUR DISCHARGE BUT ALSO OTHER DISCHARGES THAT MAY OR MAY
10:50:11 NOT COME TO BE THE LEVEL OF THE QUALITY OF WATER THAT
10:50:12 IS BEING DISCHARGED INTO THE BAY.
10:50:15 THE MERE FACT THAT IT IS BEING DISCHARGED AND NOT USED
10:50:22 IN THE BENEFICIAL MANNER THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS
10:50:24 IDENTIFIED THINKING THAT IT SHOULD BE USED WHETHER IT
10:50:26 IS RECLAIMED WATER FOR IRRIGATION, WHETHER RECLAIMED
10:50:30 WATER FOR INDIRECT OR DIRECT POTABLE REUSE, WHETHER IT
10:50:34 IS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL RESTORATION FOR WETLAND
10:50:37 ENHANCEMENT AND RESTORATION WHETHER TO MEET OR
10:50:41 PREVENTION STRATEGY FOR MINIMAL LEVELS.
10:50:44 ALL THE USES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BEING BENEFICIAL
10:50:48 TO USE THE DISCHARGE THAT IS NOT NOW OTHERWISE BEING
10:50:53 USED IN THAT MANNER.
10:50:56 SOME THAT IS THE FOCUS OF WHAT THE BILL DOES, TAKE
10:50:59 YOUR DISCHARGE, WHOEVER YOU ARE AND WHATEVER LEVEL YOU
10:51:02 ARE TREATING IT AND USE IT IN A MANNER THAT IS
10:51:11 BENEFICIAL AND HERE ARE IDEAS OF HOW YOU CAN TUESDAY.
10:51:14 POPE IS THEN AND PUTTING IT IN PLAIN ENGLISH, SUBMIT A
10:51:17 MAN TO THE DEP ON NOVEMBER 1 HOW YOU ARE GOING TO USE
10:51:20 IT, HOW MUCH YOU ARE GOING TO USE IT, IF YOU FALL INTO
10:51:23 ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES I IDENTIFIED.
10:51:25 TELL US HOW MUCH YOU ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE.
10:51:28 AND BY WHAT DATE YOU ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE IT.
10:51:36 BUT NO LATER THEN 2032 MUST YOU HAVE THESE PROJECTS IN
10:51:39 PLACE SO THAT -- THAT THE CORE OF THE FIRST SECTION
10:51:45 WHICH EVERYBODY IS FOCUSED ON AND IS THE ONE THAT HAS
10:51:48 DRAWN THE MOST ATTENTION AS FAR AS GETTING -- HAVING
10:51:56 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IMPLEMENT THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS
10:52:00 SHOULD I MOVE ON.
10:52:04 NEXT SECTION -- AND I HOPE I AM NOT SKIPPING ANYTHING.
10:52:07 WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND ASK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IF
10:52:09 SOMETHING COMES TO YOU AND WE CAN GO INTO IT MORE
10:52:09 DETAIL.
10:52:13 THE SECOND SECTION IS INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH FOCUSED ON
10:52:15 POTABLE REUSE.
10:52:18 "POTABLE REUSE" HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE LEGISLATION
10:52:24 THAT CAN BE USED AS A SOURCE OF WATER TO ASSIST FUTURE
10:52:26 WATER DEMANDS.
10:52:31 THEY, THE DEP HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO HAVE TECHNICAL
10:52:34 ADVISORY GROUP AND COORDINATE RULE MAKING AND REVIEW OF
10:52:38 RULES FOR POTABLE REUSE USE.
10:52:43 POTABLE REUSE IS IDENTIFIED AS AN ALTERNATIVE WATER
10:52:50 SUPPLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE DEFINITION 373019 WHICH
10:52:52 IS AN IMPORTANT STEP BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT POTABLE
10:52:57 REUSE PROJECTS ELIGIBLE FOR ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY
10:53:01 FUNDING AND MUST BE INCLUDED IN WATER SUPPLY PLANNING
10:53:05 FOR THE FUTURE.
10:53:07 THERE ALSO HAS BEEN A DIRECTION TO THE DEP AND THE
10:53:11 WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS TO ENTER INTO A MOU FOR
10:53:16 EXPEDITED PERMITTING THAT COULD BE USED VOLUNTARILY BY
10:53:20 APPLICANTS THAT ARE PROPOSING POTABLE REUSE PROJECTS.
10:53:23 INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THOUGH, AND THIS IS JUST WHERE I
10:53:25 LOOK AT THE DETAILS.
10:53:32 THE MOU MUST BE ENTERED INTO BY DECEMBER 31 OF '23.
10:53:35 BUT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO PROVIDE A PLAN TO DEP BY
10:53:36 NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
10:53:40 SO IF WE HAD A PROJECT THAT INCORPORATED POTABLE REUSE
10:53:43 AND WE WANTED TO AVAIL OURSELVES OF THE EXPEDITED
10:53:51 PERMITTING THAT MIGHT BE ALLOWED UNDER THIS MOU, THAT
10:53:55 MIGHT NOT BE IN EXISTENCE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
10:54:03 THE THIRD SECTION OF THE BILL -- AND THIS BILL HAS BEEN
10:54:11 ALIVE, BEEN UNDER DRAFT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS SO THIS
10:54:14 PORTION OF THE BILL WAS CREATED ABOUT A YEAR, A YEAR
10:54:18 AND A HALF AGO, AND WAS PART OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN
10:54:20 DEVELOPERS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
10:54:25 SO THIS IS THE SECTION THAT IS INCENTIVES FOR GRAY
10:54:26 WATER TECHNOLOGY.
10:54:30 AND IT SAY THAT'S A LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHALL AUTHORIZE
10:54:35 THE USE OF RESIDENTIAL -- RESIDENTIAL GRAY WATER
10:54:37 TECHNOLOGY MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FLORIDA
10:54:40 BUILDING CODE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THAT THE
10:54:44 DEVELOPER AND THE HOME -- OR THE HOMEBUILDER RECEIVE
10:54:49 ALL APPLICABLE PERMITS AND AUTHORIZATIONS THERETO FOR
10:54:50 ITS USE.
10:54:56 THEY DO THAT, THEN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BUST PROVIDE
10:55:00 25% OF DENSITY OR INTENSITY BONUS TO THE DEVELOPER OR
10:55:06 HOMEBUILDER IF 75% OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOP OR EXISTING
10:55:12 DEVELOPMENT INSTALLS A GRAY WATER SYSTEM OR 35% BONUS
10:55:17 OF THE SAME DENSITY OR INTENSITY IF 100% IS PROPOSED IN
10:55:21 EXISTING OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE THE GRAY
10:55:25 WATER TECHNOLOGY INSTALLED.
10:55:29 THESE BONUSES ARE IN ADDITION TO ANY BONUS PROVIDED BY
10:55:33 ANY COUNTY, MUNICIPALITY OR SPECIAL DISTRICT IN AN
10:55:40 ORDINANCE IN EFFECT AS OF JULY 1, 2021.
10:55:45 IN ORDER TO QUALIFY THE DEVELOPER OR HOMEOWNER MUST
10:55:48 CERTIFY THAT THE -- TO THE APPLICABLE GOVERNMENT
10:55:51 AGENCIES THAT PART OF THEIR APPLICATION FOR THE
10:55:56 DEVELOPER APPROVAL OR AMENDMENT IS 25% OF A SINGLE
10:56:00 FAMILY RESIDENCE IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
10:56:02 THAT EACH WILL HAVE ITS OWN GRAY WATER SYSTEM.
10:56:06 IT IS NOT A GRAY WATER SYSTEM THAT GOES FROM HOUSE TO
10:56:07 HOUSE.
10:56:09 NOT LIKE A RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM.
10:56:13 EACH RESIDENCE WILL HAVE ITS OWN GRAY WATER SYSTEM FOR
10:56:15 ITS OWN USE.
10:56:20 MUST SUBMIT MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY AND FUNCTION IN
10:56:23 DESIGN AS ANTICIPATED AND MUST IDENTIFY THE POTABLE
10:56:25 WATER SAVINGS FOR EACH UNIT.
10:56:32 THERE IS THE BASIS, ARGUABLY, AS TO WHY THIS SECTION IS
10:56:36 ACTUALLY IN THIS TYPE OF BILL BECAUSE OFFSETTING THE
10:56:40 USE OF POTABLE WATER BY INSTALLING THE GRAY WATER
10:56:42 SYSTEMS INTO RESIDENCES.
10:56:45 THEY ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE A MAINTENANCE -- IDENTIFY --
10:56:48 EXCUSE ME, IDENTIFY THE MAINTENANCE -- THE MAIN
10:56:51 RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER ONCE THE GRAY WATER
10:56:56 SYSTEM IS INSTALLED, THE HOMEOWNER MUST ATTAIN IT AND
10:57:00 PROVIDE THE HOME OPENER A MANUAL SO THE HOMEOWNER CAN
10:57:01 MAINTAIN IT.
10:57:04 IF ALL OF THE ABOVE IS MET, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT MUST
10:57:07 INCLUDE THOSE INCENTIVES AT THE TIME IT APPROVES THE
10:57:10 DEVELOPMENT OR AMENDMENT OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER.
10:57:13 AND MUST INCLUDE A PROCESS TO VERIFY THE PURCHASE OF
10:57:20 EACH SYSTEM.
10:57:28 AND THAT IS THE THRUST OF THE MAJORITY OF THE BILL AND
10:57:30 THE THREE MAJOR SECTIONS OF IT.
10:57:37 I KNOW WE WERE FOCUSING ON THE IDENTIFICATION OF USING
10:57:40 RECLAIMED WATER FOR POTABLE WATER, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY
10:57:44 MUCH BROADER THAN THAT.
10:57:47 AND I WILL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF
10:57:50 YOU HAVE THEM AT THIS TIME.
10:57:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:57:54 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE THING AND MAYBE A QUESTION
10:57:58 FOR IAN AND MARLEY INSTEAD OF YOU.
10:58:00 APOLOGIZE IF IT IS.
10:58:03 I HEARD FROM A LOT OF LOBBIES AROUND TALLAHASSEE THAT
10:58:05 THE SENATE PRESIDENT PUSHED THIS THROUGH.
10:58:08 WOULD NOT ALLOW QUESTIONS IN COMMITTEE.
10:58:11 AND AS OFTEN AS THE CASE, WE HAVE SEEN EXAMPLES THIS
10:58:14 YEAR ONCE THE LEADER PUSHES SOMETHING THROUGH, IT IS
10:58:17 VERY POSSIBLE THEN IN THE NEXT YEAR OR YEAR AFTER, THAT
10:58:19 WOULD BE WITHED.
10:58:19 >> DRAWN.
10:58:24 ANY IDEA IF -- IF THIS IS MAYBE WITHDRAWN NEXT YEAR OR
10:58:28 THE YEAR AFTER SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS?
10:58:33 >> THAT WOULD BE SPECULATIVE ON MY -- I CAN TELL THAT
10:58:36 YOU IN THE COURSE OF MY CAREER AND IN THE PARTICIPATION
10:58:40 AND THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, IF OFF SPEAKER OR
10:58:43 PRESIDENT THAT HAS PUT THE WEIGHT OF HIS OFFICE BEHIND
10:58:48 A BILL AND HAVE IT PASSED, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPECULATE
10:58:52 THAT IT WOULD BE REPEALED.
10:58:54 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES.
10:58:58 IF YOU CAN TALK TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS IN TALLAHASSEE AS
10:58:59 WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION.
10:59:03 IF WE THINK IT WILL BE WITHDRAWN A YEAR OR TWO NOW
10:59:07 MAYBE DO THE BASICS WE NEED TO DO TO COMPLY, BUT THIS
10:59:12 -- OVER A 20-YEAR PERIOD A $1 BILLION INVESTMENT FOR
10:59:16 THE TAXPAYERS AND RATEPAYERS AND IF IT -- WE HAVE SEEN
10:59:19 OVER AND OVER AGAIN POLICIES IN TALLAHASSEE GET PASSED
10:59:24 AND THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION, THE PEOPLE JUMP FIRST WITH
10:59:27 THE BIG EXPENDITURE GET CHEATED OUT OF IT WHEN IN THIS
10:59:30 CASE SEEMS LIKE THE WATER IS HELPING THE BAY ALREADY.
10:59:33 IT IS GOING TO COST US A LOT MORE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE
10:59:33 WITH IT.
10:59:36 WE DON'T HAVE A SHORTAGE OF WATER AND WILL HAVE THE
10:59:37 OTHER PRESENTATION LATER. JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
10:59:38 >> JAN MCLEAN: ONE OF THE THINGS WE FIND ANY LOCAL
10:59:39 GOVERNMENT FINDS ITSELF CAUGHT IN IS THE REQUIREMENTS OF
10:59:42 THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULDN'T
10:59:46 WANT TO IGNORE HOPING SPECULATIVELY THAT SOMETHING WOULD
10:59:50 HAPPEN TO AFFECT THE LEGISLATION IN LATER YEARS.
10:59:54 FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE THIS PLAN, ALBEIT A PLAN, THAT'S
10:59:58 STILL GOING TO TAKE RESOURCES TO PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER
11:00:00 AND MAKE THE IDENTIFICATION.
11:00:02 LUCKILY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY
11:00:06 COULD INCORPORATE OUR RECLAIMED WATER.
11:00:08 SO WE ARE PROBABLY IN BETTER POINT FOR SUBMITTING THE
11:00:12 PLAN THAN A LOT OF OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
11:00:15 BUT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO -- I WOULD NEVER ADVISE THAT WE
11:00:25 WAIT TO SEE IF ANYTHING WOULD HAPPEN IN TALLAHASSEE.
11:00:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
11:00:37 THANK YOU.
11:00:40 ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:00:41 >> JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:00:47 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
11:00:54 RECLAIMED WATER, AND WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING WITH
11:01:03 OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS WHO WE'LL INTRODUCE TO GO FORWARD.
11:01:15 I'M JEAN DUNCAN, ADMINISTRATOR, AND WANT TO TAKE A VERY
11:01:22 BRIEF RECAP, IN PLANNING THIS WORKSHOP TODAY, AND THEN I
11:01:29 WILL HAND OFF TO THE OTHERS TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE
11:01:31 DETAILS WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
11:01:36 WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE TWO SEPARATE PowerPoint
11:01:39 PRESENTATIONS FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE, FOR EACH PORTION OF
11:01:47 THE WORKSHOP TODAY THAT ENCOMPASSES THE EXPERT PANEL, AS
11:01:55 WELL AS THE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS INFORMATION WE ARE
11:02:01 WORKING ON AS WELL.
11:02:02 VERY QUICKLY JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF
11:02:06 THE YEAR, PRECEDING THAT, WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO
11:02:10 SWFWMD FOR FUNDING, YOU ARE NOW CALLING PURE.
11:02:20 AND WE CAME TO YOU IN JANUARY TO GIVE SOME DETAILS ABOUT
11:02:25 THAT CONCEPT, AND WE ALSO -- FUNDING FOR THE PLAN AND
11:02:36 DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT.
11:02:40 AND WE SCALED BACK OUR REQUEST TO $650,000, AND LAST
11:02:57 FEBRUARY WE CAME BACK, WITH REVISED FUNDING ALLOCATION
11:03:02 REQUEST, AND AGAIN, THIS CONVERSATION WITH ALL OF YOU ON
11:03:08 CITY COUNCIL, IT WAS APPROVED FOR DETAILED ANALYSIS AS
11:03:16 WELL AS HAVING AN INDEPENDENT BODY LOOK AT DATA ALREADY
11:03:22 PRODUCED THAT WOULD UTILIZE -- EACH FURTHER.
11:03:28 SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ON THE TOPIC.
11:03:32 SO SINCE FEBRUARY, WE HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS, WE
11:03:38 PUT TOGETHER THE INDEPENDENT PANEL, BUT ALSO ON
11:03:45 ENGAGEMENT, FEEDBACK OF THE PUBLIC, TO YOU NEXT MONTH,
11:03:53 AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SWFWMD FUNDING FOR A 30%
11:04:01 DESIGN, AND ALSO ACTIVITIES, THOSE BEING THAT WE WOULD
11:04:09 NEED TO ENSURE OUR PROJECT -- FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.
11:04:19 SO WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER AN INDEPENDENT PANEL.
11:04:24 THAT PANEL IS RESEARCH INSTITUTE, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL
11:04:34 OF THE COMMENTS, AND GIVE US FEEDBACK ON THE DOCUMENT.
11:04:44 WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL STAKEHOLDERS,
11:04:50 AND WE APPRECIATE THE INPUT WE RECEIVED FROM MANY OF YOU,
11:04:57 SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SIERRA CLUB, FRIENDS OF THE
11:05:01 RIVER, AND [~DISTORTION~] STAKEHOLDERS WHO WE HAVE BEEN
11:05:09 APPRECIATIVE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT.
11:05:12 SO WE REQUESTED INPUT FROM THEM, AND RECEIVED
11:05:20 [~DISTORTION~] WITH THOSE MEMBERS.
11:05:25 WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH BOTH GROUPS.
11:05:32 WE ALSO CONDUCTED A WORKSHOP WITH THE INDEPENDENT
11:05:34 ADVISORY PANEL.
11:05:40 WE ALSO WORKING WITH CONSULTANTS TO EVALUATE A WHOLE SET
11:05:46 OF SERVICE OPTIONS FOR THE PROJECT.
11:05:51 WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, AND A RESPONSE ON THE
11:06:05 PROJECT TO GET THEIR THOUGHTS WHAT ALTERNATIVE METHODS TO
11:06:10 CONSIDER GOING FORWARD.
11:06:15 THE STAKEHOLDERS FOR THE PROJECT -- EXCUSE ME -- AND KEEP
11:06:21 THEM INFORMED, AND CONTINUE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT AND
11:06:25 SUGGESTIONS.
11:06:30 WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO CONSULTING FIRMS FOR ENGAGEMENT,
11:06:36 SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND SHARE WITH YOU THE RESULTS NEXT
11:06:41 MONTH.
11:06:42 SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO ASK TO GO INTO MORE DETAILS WE
11:06:47 ARE PRESENTING TODAY, INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME OF THE
11:06:49 EXPERTS WE HAVE HERE IN THE ROOM WITH US, AND AS WE GET
11:06:58 THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
11:07:01 >> THANK YOU.
11:07:03 GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:07:04 BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:07:09 THE ORDER OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY, THE FIRST
11:07:12 PRESENTATION WILL BE FROM NWRI AND THE INDEPENDENT
11:07:18 ADVISORY PANEL THAT WAS SELECTED.
11:07:24 AND THE SECOND PRESENTATION WILL BE THE ALTERNATIVE
11:07:27 ANALYSIS, ACTUALLY THE GRAPH RESULTS OF THAT, AND
11:07:37 PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC OUTREACH EFFORT OF THE
11:07:44 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP JUNE 24th, AND AFTER YOU HEAR
11:07:48 THE NWRI PRESENTATION YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HEARING AN
11:07:55 UPDATE ON THE NWRI FINAL RESULTS AT THE JUNE WORKSHOP,
11:08:02 TOGETHER WITH THE PUBLIC OUTREACH.
11:08:04 BUT IT'S CERTAINLY YOUR PLEASURE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT
11:08:10 MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
11:08:11 SO IN A MINUTE I WILL INTRODUCE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
11:08:17 NWRI, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR THAT
11:08:21 WORK.
11:08:23 THIS WORK IS NOT THE END, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE
11:08:26 ENVIRONMENTAL STAKEHOLDERS --
11:08:31 IT'S BEGINNING TO DEVELOP PLANS, DESIGNS, AND BUILD THE
11:08:40 PROJECT.
11:08:42 IT'S TO MAKE SURE FIRST THAT THE SCIENTIFIC WORK
11:08:46 PERFORMED TO DATE IS SOUND, AND THEN SECONDLY, I THINK
11:08:53 THE ROLE IS NOT TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE ANY PROJECT, BUT
11:08:58 TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE IT, TO ENSURE
11:09:03 PUBLIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY.
11:09:07 SO WE'LL USE YOUR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE
11:09:11 THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE.
11:09:14 SO WITH THAT, I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE KEVIN DAIGGER,
11:09:24 THE DIRECTOR OF WATER NATIONAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE, OR
11:09:29 NWRI, TO CONTINUE DEVELOP RECYCLED WATER AND INCREASE OUR
11:09:40 FACILITY.
11:09:41 BEFORE GOING TO NWRI, WAS GENERAL MANAGER OF THE
11:09:46 WASTEWATER AUTHORITY, PUBLIC AGENCY THAT PROVIDES
11:09:49 RECYCLED WATER, AND WASTEWATER THROUGH THE SURFACE IN
11:09:54 SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
11:09:56 HE IS PAST PRESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION AND
11:10:01 AGENCIES AND CALIFORNIA FOUNDATION -- AUTHORITY.
11:10:05 AND HE IS JOINING US TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE NWRI
11:10:11 INDEPENDENT ADVISORY PANEL PROCESS, AND THEN HE WILL ALSO
11:10:15 INTRODUCE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE INDEPENDENT ADVISORY PANEL,
11:10:22 GLEN DAIGGER, IF GLEN WILL COME UP ON SCREEN AS WELL,
11:10:27 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
11:10:28 WITH THAT, ON BEHALF OF CTTV, PLEASE PULL UP THE NWRI
11:10:38 PRESENTATION AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN HARDY.
11:10:41 >> KEVIN HARDY: THANK YOU, BRAD.
11:10:45 GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE
11:10:49 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:10:49 I AM KEVIN HARDY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL
11:10:52 WATER RESEARCH INSTITUTE, AND WE ARE HONORED AND HUMBLED
11:10:55 TO JOIN YOU THIS MORNING, INTRODUCE YOU TO NWRI AND TO
11:10:59 THE CHAIR NWRI INDEPENDENT ADVISORY PANEL THAT IS SERVING
11:11:05 THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE TAMPA PURE PROJECT.
11:11:08 WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING THERE WITH YOU IN PERSON SOON
11:11:11 AND WISH WE COULD HAVE BEEN THERE TODAY, BUT VIDEO WILL
11:11:14 HAVE TO DO.
11:11:15 SO LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NWRI.
11:11:19 IT WAS FOUNDED IN 1991 BY FORWARD THINKING CITIZENS HERE
11:11:23 IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
11:11:25 WE ARE A 501(C)3 NONPROFIT THAT'S BASED IN FOUNTAIN
11:11:30 VALLEY, IN CENTRAL ORANGE COUNTY.
11:11:32 WE ARE GOVERNED BY A 6-MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS
11:11:37 COMPRISED OF BOTH ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS ACROSS
11:11:40 THE LOS ANGELES AND ORANGE COUNTY GROUNDWATER BASIN.
11:11:43 OUR FOUNDERS HAVE A SHARED VISION OF INSTITUTE WITHOUT
11:11:48 WALLS, INTENTIONALLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY OF THOUGHT
11:11:50 LEADERS, INNOVATORS AND FOCUSED ON IMPROVING WATER
11:11:55 RESOURCES SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY AND POLICY TO CREATE NEW
11:11:58 HEALTHY SOURCES OF WATER TO SUPPORT RAPIDLY GROWING
11:12:01 REGIONS LIKE TAMPA.
11:12:03 TODAY 30 YEARS LATER THE SUN IN SITS ON THE WORK AROUND
11:12:06 THE GLOBE.
11:12:07 IN FACT IN ADDITION TO THIS GREAT WORK WE ARE DOING IN
11:12:09 FLORIDA, WE HAVE RECENT ENGAGEMENTS ACROSS ALL OF
11:12:13 NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, COLORADO,
11:12:17 IDAHO, MARYLAND, NEW MEXICO AND WASHINGTON STATE.
11:12:20 WE ALSO WORK INTENTLY WITH THE ISRAELI NATIONAL WATER
11:12:25 COMPANY, AND THE JAPANESE FEDERAL MINISTRY AND TRADE
11:12:29 INDUSTRY.
11:12:31 SO WHAT IS NWRI?
11:12:33 IT'S THE NATION'S COLLABORATIVE RESOURCE FOR THE
11:12:35 ADVANCEMENT OF WATER RESOURCES, SCIENCE, POLICY
11:12:38 INNOVATION, THE INDEPENDENT ADVISORY SERVICES PROVIDER OF
11:12:41 CHOICE FOR CHALLENGING WATER QUALITY, WATER RESOURCE
11:12:45 MANAGEMENT, AND RELATED INNOVATION ISSUES.
11:12:48 AND WE PROVIDE INSIGHT AND UNDERSTANDING OF CURRENT
11:12:51 TRADITIONS IN WATER SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.
11:12:57 WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA GROWING
11:13:01 INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT
11:13:04 ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE CONFRONTING REGIONAL WATER RISKS
11:13:07 DIRECTLY.
11:13:09 NEXT SLIDE.
11:13:16 PROVIDE EXPERT REVIEW OF COMPLEX MULTI-BENEFIT WATER
11:13:20 RESOURCE PROGRAMS ACROSS THESE GREAT UNITED STATES THAT
11:13:22 ARE NOT UNLIKE THE TAMPA PURE PROJECT.
11:13:25 EVERY PANEL IS CREATED, ADMINISTERED AND FACILITATED BY
11:13:31 NWRI TO MEET THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECT SPECIFIC NEEDS OF
11:13:34 ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS, ENGINEERS AND OTHER
11:13:37 TECHNICAL PROFESSIONALS, AND STATE AND FEDERAL
11:13:41 REGULATORS, ALONG WITH STAKEHOLDERS WHERE IT'S
11:13:43 APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.
11:13:46 AND LEGACY IN EVERY COMMUNITY WE SERVE IS MEANINGFUL
11:13:50 PRACTITIONERS TO HELP CITIZENS MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS
11:13:53 THAT PRODUCE COMMUNITY APPROPRIATE INVESTMENTS IN WATER
11:13:56 RESOURCES AND IN PUBLIC ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
11:14:00 THE PANEL ASSEMBLED FOR THE TAMPA PURE PROJECT INCLUDES
11:14:03 EXPERTS WITH RELEVANT REGIONAL, NATIONAL AND
11:14:07 INTERNATIONAL CREDENTIALS AND INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE.
11:14:09 THESE EXPERTS INCLUDE CHAIRMAN GLEN DAIGGER FROM THE
11:14:14 UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN.
11:14:17 ALSO INCLUDES WENDY GRAHAM, DIRECTOR OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
11:14:19 FLORIDA'S WATER INSTITUTE.
11:14:23 JOAN ROSE FROM MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY WHO IS NOT ONLY
11:14:25 A CLARK PRIZE LAUREATE FROM NWRI BUT ALSO A RECIPIENT OF
11:14:30 THE STOCKHOLM HOME WATER.
11:14:33 MATT SIMCIK, MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY AND
11:14:38 PROFESSOR OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.
11:14:41 SAM UPCHURCH, A FLORIDIAN, ONE OF OUR EXPERTS AS WELL.
11:14:46 AND ROUNDING OUT THE PANEL IS MIKE WEHNER, FORMER
11:14:51 ASSISTANT MANAGER OF THE ORANGE COUNTY WATER MANAGEMENT
11:14:53 DISTRICT HERE IN CALIFORNIA AND WHO IS AN EXPERT BOTH IN
11:14:56 PUBLIC HEALTH AND IN PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE AROUND WATER
11:14:59 RECYCLING ISSUES.
11:15:10 WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THE SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL ISSUES
11:15:13 PRESENTED AT THEIR INITIAL MEETING ON MAY 13, 2021.
11:15:18 REPRESENTING NWRI EXPERT ADVISORY PANEL FOR THE TAMPA
11:15:21 PURE PROJECT HERE TODAY IS GLEN DAIGGER, THE PANEL'S
11:15:26 CHAIR.
11:15:27 ALSO THE SANITATION ROSE DISTRICT OR SWIFT PROJECT.
11:15:34 MR. DAIGGER IS A MEMBER OF THE FACULTY OF UNIVERSITY OF
11:15:37 MICHIGAN, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL
11:15:40 ACADEMY OF ENGINEERS, AND AMONG THE MOST DISTINGUISHED
11:15:43 AND EXPECTED WATER REUSE PRACTITIONERS IN THE UNITED
11:15:45 STATES.
11:15:49 IT'S NOW MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE GLEN BUT I WANT TO
11:15:54 ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARD WORK OF MS. MCLEAN, MR. BAIRD, MRS.
11:15:57 WEBER, MR. PARK AND THE WHOLE TEAM IN TAMPA.
11:16:00 THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF PULLING TOGETHER A LOT OF
11:16:03 COMPLEX INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT WAS VERY UNDERSTANDABLE
11:16:05 AND VERY EFFECTIVE FOR THE PANEL.
11:16:08 AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT ON THE PANEL DOING THIS
11:16:12 VERY IMPORTANT WORK.
11:16:13 WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO YOUR CHAIRMAN, DR. GLEN
11:16:17 DAIGGER.
11:16:17 >> THANK YOU, KEVIN.
11:16:21 JUST MAKE SURE THAT MY VOICE IS COMING THROUGH WITH THE
11:16:24 SYSTEM HERE.
11:16:28 GREAT.
11:16:28 SO I WILL SAY FIRST OF ALL FOR THE PANEL THAT WE ALL
11:16:33 APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE OF SERVICE, LOOKING AT
11:16:39 THIS VERY INTERESTING AND INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO MANAGING
11:16:46 QUITE A COMPLEX OF WATER SUPPLY AND ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
11:16:51 AS KEVIN ARTICULATED AND MR. BAIRD BEFORE HIM, OUR ROLE
11:16:56 IS TO LOOK AT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE, AND PROVIDE
11:17:05 OUR EXPERTISE, OUR KNOWLEDGE AND OUR ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF
11:17:25 OH-I THINK IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED, IT'S STILL IN A
11:17:29 FORMATIVE STAGE.
11:17:30 I THINK FOR THE PANEL WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE TO BE
11:17:32 INVOLVED AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO LEND ASSISTANCE TO THE
11:17:40 CITY AS IT LOOKS TO TAKE THIS CONCEPT AND FURTHER DEVELOP
11:17:43 IT.
11:17:46 SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
11:17:53 THE NEXT SLIDES LISTS OUR BRIEF, WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED
11:17:56 TO DO, WHICH IS REVIEW AND ASSESS THE SCIENTIFIC
11:17:59 TECHNICAL POLICY VALIDITY OF THE TAMPA PURE PROJECT,
11:18:04 EVALUATE THE TAMPA PURE PRODUCT WATER QUALITY, WITH
11:18:09 SUITABILITY AS A RESOURCE FOR THE LOWER HILLSBOROUGH
11:18:12 RIVER, MINIMUM FLOWS AND THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER RESERVOIR
11:18:18 AUGMENTATION, AND REVIEW AND ASSESS THE SCIENTIFIC AND
11:18:22 TECHNICAL VALIDITY OF THE SEAWAT GROUNDWATER MODEL WHICH
11:18:30 IS THE MATHEMATICAL MODEL BEING USED TO EVALUATE THE
11:18:33 RECHARGE AND RECOVERY OF THE WATER, ADJACENT TO THE
11:18:39 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND HILLSBOROUGH RIVER RESERVOIR.
11:18:46 GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
11:18:48 THE WAY WE ARE SPECIFICALLY DOING THIS, THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:18:52 WORKING WITH NWRI HAS CRAFTED THIS INTO FOUR SPECIFIC
11:18:56 QUESTIONS.
11:18:57 I WON'T READ THEM SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU WILL
11:19:00 SEE THAT THEY TAKE THE OVERALL BRIEF AND TURN THESE INTO
11:19:05 SOME SPECIFIC -- MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
11:19:10 AND OUR REPORT WILL LARGELY THEN PROVIDE RESPONSES TO
11:19:14 THESE QUESTIONS.
11:19:19 SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE FROM US IN THE REPORT WILL BE AN
11:19:23 INTRODUCTION AND SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN
11:19:36 FOLLOWING THAT FOUR SPECIFIC SECTIONS SPECIFICALLY
11:19:38 ADDRESSING EACH OF THESE FOUR QUESTIONS WITH A RESPONSE,
11:19:43 WITH THE NARRATIVE, AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
11:19:45 COME FROM THAT.
11:19:47 SO THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING.
11:19:53 IN TERMS OF PROGRESS, AS WAS INDICATED, THE FIRST MEETING
11:19:58 OF THE PANEL WITH STAFF WAS MAY 13th.
11:20:03 WE WERE GIVEN SOME MATERIAL BEFORE THAT, ABOUT A WEEK
11:20:07 BEFORE THAT, SO WHERE THE PANEL IS AT IS JUST IN THE
11:20:13 DETAILED PHASE OF OUR ANALYSIS, AND BEGINNING BY THE
11:20:17 INDIVIDUAL PANEL MEMBERS TO ASSEMBLE THEIR COMMENTS AND
11:20:23 ANALYSIS, WHICH WE WILL BE PUTTING INTO THE DRAFT REPORT.
11:20:29 THIS NEXT WEEK, WE WILL HAVE THAT ASSEMBLED AND THEN AS A
11:20:36 PANEL WILL BE MOVING THIS TOWARDS OUR CONSENSUS REPORT.
11:20:41 THIS IS A CONSENSUS REPORT, SO WHAT WE WILL PROVIDE TO
11:20:49 YOU IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP.
11:20:53 IF THERE ARE DIFFERING OPINIONS WE WILL INDICATE THAT,
11:20:57 BUT THE INTENT IS TO COME TO A CONSENSUS AS MUCH AS
11:21:00 POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF RESPONDING TO THESE QUESTIONS.
11:21:15 WE WILL PROVIDE THAT TO STAFF AND THEN ISSUE A FINAL
11:21:18 REPORT.
11:21:18 I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE.
11:21:21 AND THIS SUMMARIZES WHAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU AS AN OVERVIEW.
11:21:34 WE ARE GATHERING COMMENTS FROM THE PANEL, DRAFTING THAT
11:21:40 INTO A REPORT, AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REACHING
11:21:43 CONSENSUS, CLARIFYING WITH THE CITY THAT WE HAVE UNDER
11:21:48 THE SITUATION, ISSUING A FINAL REPORT BY THE END OF JUNE.
11:21:53 SO THE FINAL REPORT SHOULD INCLUDE A CONSENSUS RESPONSE
11:21:58 TO THE PANEL CHARGE QUESTIONS.
11:22:05 AND EXAMINE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STAKEHOLDERS QUESTIONS AND
11:22:11 CONCLUSIONS.
11:22:11 WE ARE NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO THOSE SPECIFICALLY BUT
11:22:18 THAT WILL INFORM OUR ANALYSIS TO SEE THAT WE HAVE
11:22:21 RESPONDED TO THOSE AT LEAST IN CONTENT AND IN SPIRIT, IN
11:22:28 THE CONTEXT, OVERALL REPORT, AND AGAIN YOU WILL HAVE THAT
11:22:33 BY THE END OF JUNE.
11:22:39 THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:22:40 I THINK AGAIN FROM THE PANEL'S PERSPECTIVE, IN OUR
11:22:43 INTERIM DISCUSSIONS, WE ARE QUITE PLEASED TO BE AT THIS
11:22:48 STAGE OF THE PROJECT.
11:22:53 AND QUITE WHERE WE ARE EXPERIENCE OUR EXPERIENCE TELLS US
11:22:56 THAT WE CAN OFTENTIMES BE QUITE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF
11:23:02 OUTSIDE VIEW OF VERY EXPERIENCED PEOPLE TO OFFER
11:23:09 SUGGESTIONS IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO AT
11:23:15 THIS POINT FURTHER CLARIFY AND IDENTIFY THE STRONGEST
11:23:20 PROJECT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:23:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE MR. DINGFELDER WILL BE FIRST.
11:23:36 WE'LL GO WITH MR. DINGFELDER, MR. CARLSON, AND MR. VIERA.
11:23:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:23:42 THANK YOU, DR. DAIGGER, IS IT?
11:23:49 >> DAIGGER.
11:23:51 SOME PEOPLE THINK TIGER BUT PUT AN D IN THERE.
11:23:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DROP THE A.
11:24:01 ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I HAD WITH THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IS
11:24:04 THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON OUR UNIQUE COST GEOLOGY, AND I AM
11:24:12 SURE THAT STAFF SHARES THAT CONCERN.
11:24:15 I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN MANY STUDIES OVER THE YEARS.
11:24:21 I DID NOT SEE THAT IN YOUR LIST OF THE THREE MAIN
11:24:27 SUBJECTS THAT WERE ON YOUR LIST, AND MR. HARDY, FEEL FREE
11:24:31 TO CHIME IN AS WELL.
11:24:34 AND/OR MR. BAIRD.
11:24:36 BUT IF IT'S NOT ON THE LIST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ADDED
11:24:40 TO THE LIST, BRAD AND JEAN.
11:24:45 SO SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT.
11:24:47 IS IT ON THE LIST?
11:24:48 AND, IF NOT, WOULD IT BE A BIG DEAL TO ADD IT TO THE
11:24:52 LIST?
11:24:52 BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT -- WELL,
11:24:55 IT'S ONE OF THE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THINGS I THINK THAT
11:24:57 THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT, IS WHAT IS THE
11:25:00 LONG-TERM IMPACT TO THE CARST GEOLOGY UNDER THESE MANY
11:25:09 SQUARE MILES THAT WE WOULD BE PUMPING TENS OF MILLIONS OF
11:25:15 GALLONS OF TREATED WATER UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE?
11:25:18 >> THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS THAT IT IS THERE, IT IS PART AND
11:25:22 PARCEL, THE KEY WORDS ARE THE -- AT LEAST SOME OF THE KEY
11:25:27 WORDS ARE THE EVALUATION OF THE SEAWAT MODEL.
11:25:32 BUT THIS IS A MATHEMATICAL MODEL FOR THAT AQUIFER SYSTEM,
11:25:39 AND THE PORTION OF IT THAT WOULD BE INFLUENCED BY THE
11:25:43 RECHARGE AND RECOVERY.
11:25:44 SO OCTOBER TO REVIEW THE MODEL, YOU NEED TO REVIEW THOSE,
11:25:49 AND OUR REVIEWING THE IMPACTS.
11:25:52 ALTHOUGH THE WORDS ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY THERE, IT IS
11:25:55 ABSOLUTELY A PORTION OF IT, AS WELL AS PHYSICAL CHEMICAL
11:26:05 CHANGES THAT WOULD OCCUR BECAUSE THAT'S PART AND PARCEL
11:26:08 TO THE ANALYSIS, AS WELL AS THE WATER COMING OUT IN THE
11:26:15 BIOLOGICAL CHEMICAL REACTIONS THAT AFFECT THE CHEMICAL OF
11:26:20 THE WATER COMING OUT, WHICH THEN AFFECTS ITS IMPACTS ON
11:26:24 THE RIVER AND RESERVOIR.
11:26:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM OBVIOUSLY NOT OVERLY WELL VERSED
11:26:32 IN WHAT THE SEAWAT MODEL IS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR
11:26:36 ANSWER, AND I WILL LOOK VERY, VERY CLOSELY AT THE
11:26:40 PRELIMINARY AND FINAL REPORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT MY
11:26:46 QUESTIONS AND THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.
11:26:49 AND I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT ONLY THE PHYSICAL
11:26:53 DYNAMICS OF THE CARST GEOLOGY BUT ALSO ANY CHEMICAL
11:27:00 IMPACTS.
11:27:01 THANK YOU.
11:27:01 >>BRAD BAIRD: TWO OF THE MEMBERS --
11:27:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SEE THEM.
11:27:12 WE HAVE A GATOR.
11:27:13 WE ALREADY START AHEAD, BRAD, BECAUSE WE HAVE A GART ON
11:27:17 THERE.
11:27:17 I SAW BOTH OF THEIR NAMES AND I LOOKED UP THEIR
11:27:20 CREDENTIALS AND I AM GLAD THAT THEY HAVE LOCAL CARST
11:27:31 CREDENTIALS.
11:27:32 THANK YOU.
11:27:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
11:27:35 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, MR. DAIGGER.
11:27:41 I LISTENED TO ALMOST ALL THE COMMITTEE MEETING THE OTHER
11:27:44 DAY, ALMOST THREE OR FOUR HOURS.
11:27:46 I JUST WANT TO TELL THE WATER STAFF, CITY WATER STAFF, I
11:27:49 WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH DID PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, AND
11:27:53 TO YOUR ORGANIZATION ALSO.
11:27:55 I SHOULD SAY THANK YOU.
11:27:56 IT WAS A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
11:27:58 I HAD A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AROUND
11:28:00 THE TABLE.
11:28:01 THEY ASKED VERY TOUGH QUESTIONS.
11:28:03 ONE PERSON ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT ARSENIC, FOR EXAMPLE.
11:28:07 THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CARST ENVIRONMENT.
11:28:10 THEY ALL HAD DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON LOOKING AT THIS.
11:28:14 SO I THINK THAT THIS COMMITTEE REVIEWING THIS WITH THE
11:28:18 COMMITTEE IS A GREAT IDEA.
11:28:20 IT IS AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST MEETING I LISTENED TO
11:28:22 PROVIDING OBJECTIVITY.
11:28:24 I TALKED TO SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ALSO LISTENED
11:28:27 TO IT AND THEY HAD CONFIDENCE WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT'S
11:28:30 LISTENING TO THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE REPORT.
11:28:33 MY CONCERNS ABOUT IT, IF I COULD JUST LIST THREE CONCERNS
11:28:36 AND MAYBE DR. DAIGGER OR SOMEBODY TO RESPOND.
11:28:42 DR. DAIGGER, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD GOING BACK MONTHS
11:28:45 AGO, IS PURE A PROCESS OR A PROJECT?
11:28:48 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD THE PRESENTATION EARLIER, BUT
11:28:51 IF WE DO THIS, IT WILL BE IN PART BECAUSE THE STATE IS
11:28:54 FORCING US TO DO IT.
11:28:55 AND SO IF THE STATE HAS IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE
11:28:58 TO MATCH, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVES, AND
11:29:02 BASIC SCIENTIFIC METHOD WE LEARNED IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
11:29:05 IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS,
11:29:07 YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT'S SAFEST FOR THE ENVIRONMENT FOR
11:29:10 HUMANS, WHAT'S THE MOST ECONOMICAL, AND THEN FROM THOSE
11:29:13 CHOICES YOU LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN YOU PICK A
11:29:16 CHOICE.
11:29:16 IF PURE IS A PROCESS, THEN WE WILL PRESENT MULTIPLE
11:29:20 ALTERNATIVES, AND WE'LL GET FEEDBACK FROM AN INDEPENDENT
11:29:25 PANEL LIKE YOURS ON THE ALTERNATIVES.
11:29:27 WAY HEARD THE OTHER DAY IS THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE PURE WAS
11:29:30 MORE LIKE A PROJECT, IT IS A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT WAS
11:29:33 BEING PRESENTED.
11:29:34 YOU ARE ASKING TO GET FEEDBACK ON A SPECIFIC PROJECT, NOT
11:29:37 THE ALTERNATIVES.
11:29:37 SO I WONDER, MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I WILL JUST
11:29:41 RATTLE OFF THE OTHER TWO REAL FAST, IN YOUR PROCESS, ARE
11:29:44 YOU GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, OR
11:29:47 ARE YOU JUST LOOKING AT PURE AS A PROJECT?
11:29:49 NUMBER TWO, IT SEEMED LIKE THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY
11:29:52 CONFUSED MANY TIMES THAT THE DATA THAT WAS BEING
11:29:56 PRESENTED WAS FROM TAP, AND CITY STAFF HAD TO KEEP
11:30:01 CLARIFYING THAT MUCH OF THE RESEARCH HAD BEEN DONE FOR
11:30:04 TAP, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
11:30:07 AND THAT PART OF THAT DATA WAS APPLICABLE OR PART OF IT
11:30:12 WASN'T.
11:30:13 DO YOU THINK THAT THERE MAY BE CONTINUED CONFUSION AMONG
11:30:16 THE PANEL ABOUT LOOKING AT TAP VERSUS PURE?
11:30:19 AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT REALLY CONCERNED ME IS --
11:30:23 AND THIS GETS BACK TO THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS -- OUR
11:30:27 REGIONAL REGULATORS, SWFWMD, IS GIVING US LESS MONEY AND
11:30:31 IS ESSENTIALLY DEMANDING THAT WE PARTNER WITH OUR
11:30:33 REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY, TAMPA BAY WATER, AND IN THE WHOLE
11:30:37 THREE HOURS OR SO THAT I LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION THE
11:30:40 OTHER DAY, I HAD NEVER HEARD THE COMMITTEE BRIEFED ON THE
11:30:43 FACT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLESALE WATER SUPPLIER.
11:30:45 SO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT, FOR EXAMPLE, REDUCING SALTWATER
11:30:49 INTRUSION IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST BUY
11:30:52 THE 11 OR 12 MGD SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PUMP THAT AT ALL?
11:30:57 WHY DO WE NEED TO PUMP THIS OTHER WAY?
11:31:00 SO AS THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ARE PRESENTED, ARE YOU ALL
11:31:03 GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THEM, AND HAS ANYBODY MENTIONED OR
11:31:06 DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE A MENTION OF THE REGIONAL
11:31:08 WATER SUPPLY AS PART OF THE SOLUTION?
11:31:10 THANK YOU.
11:31:10 >> IN TERMS OF WORKING BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT, WHETHER
11:31:20 THIS IS A PROJECT OR PROCESS, I THINK THE CITY STAFF WILL
11:31:24 NEED TO RESPOND TO THAT.
11:31:26 BUT IN TERMS OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED,
11:31:32 WHETHER IT WAS IN THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSED AT THE WORKSHOP,
11:31:36 OR THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, FIRST OF ALL, YES, WE ARE --
11:31:42 WE WERE PROVIDED WITH A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING, THAT TAMPA
11:31:47 BAY WATER DOES EXIST, AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION, THERE
11:31:51 WERE ALTERNATIVES, BROADER SENSE OF ALTERNATIVES,
11:31:55 EVALUATED, INCLUDING PURCHASE OF WATER FROM TAMPA BAY
11:32:00 WATER.
11:32:00 SO IN TERMS OF YOUR LAST QUESTION, WE ARE AWARE -- WE ARE
11:32:08 AWARE THAT THAT OPTION EXISTS AND ALTERNATIVES HAVE IN
11:32:15 THE PAST BEEN EVALUATED.
11:32:19 WITH REGARD TO TAP VERSUS PURE, I THINK THE DISCUSSION
11:32:26 THERE, CERTAINLY ANY TECHNICAL WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, NO
11:32:32 MATTER UNDER WHAT BANNER, TECHNICAL WORK THAT'S RELEVANT,
11:32:38 IS RELEVANT.
11:32:39 SO I THINK THE COMMENT REALLY WAS CLARIFYING US MAKING
11:32:47 SURE THAT WE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE PRESSURE PURE
11:32:53 PROJECT IS, SO THAT THE -- I THINK WE GENERALLY
11:32:57 UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TAP PROJECT WAS ITSELF BEING
11:33:03 EVALUATED IN THE PAST.
11:33:07 WE WANTED TO SEPARATE OUT, CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, WHAT THE
11:33:12 PURE PROJECT ENTAILS, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, AND THEN
11:33:19 ANY RELEVANT INFORMATION, NO MATTER WHERE IT'S PRODUCED,
11:33:28 IF IT'S RELEVANT, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER UNDER WHAT
11:33:31 MANNER, LOOKING AT THE TECHNICAL CONTENT OF THE
11:33:34 INFORMATION.
11:33:35 SO I THINK THIS DISCUSSION YOU HEARD WAS JUST KIND OF
11:33:40 SORTING OUT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE SOME OF
11:33:44 THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED WITH HAVE VERY
11:33:49 RELEVANT TECHNICAL INFORMATION, BUT HAD THE WORD TAP
11:33:52 RATHER THAN PURE.
11:33:53 SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT
11:33:57 WAS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE PURE PROJECT.
11:34:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE YOU GO ON, I NEED TO GET MR.
11:34:08 CARLSON'S FIRST QUESTION ANSWERED.
11:34:10 I THINK THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNCIL, AND IF
11:34:13 YOU HAVE BEEN PAID TO BE A CONSULTANT AND YOU DON'T KNOW
11:34:15 THE ANSWER THEN WE NEED TO HAVE STAFF ANSWER THAT
11:34:17 QUESTION.
11:34:18 MR. CARLSON.
11:34:18 >> THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WAS TO GO BACK AND ASK STAFF
11:34:25 TO COMMENT IN TERMS OF HOW THIS FITS INTO THE OVERALL
11:34:28 PICTURE.
11:34:28 >>BILL CARLSON: I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS
11:34:32 COMMITTEE, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT COMMITTEE, ARE THEY
11:34:34 GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE ALTERNATIVES OR JUST ONE
11:34:37 PROJECT?
11:34:37 >> WHAT THE CHARGE IS, JUST TO EVALUATE TECHNICAL
11:34:56 INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER.
11:35:00 WE WERE VERY AWARE IN THE WORKSHOP WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING
11:35:04 AT WAS ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES, [INDISCERNIBLE] BEING
11:35:16 EVALUATED.
11:35:17 SO THE INDEPENDENT ADVISORY COUNCIL IS DOING IS THEY ARE
11:35:22 LOOKING AT TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT COULD BE USED FROM
11:35:26 ALL FOUR ALTERNATIVES, BY CONTROL, MONITORING, AND
11:35:33 PROTECTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, THE ENHANCED -- THAT
11:35:39 COULD BE USED AND SHOULD BE USED FOR ANY ALTERNATIVE.
11:35:43 IF WE HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVES, WHETHER IT'S POTABLE WATER,
11:35:54 [~DISTORTION~] AND TO LOOK AT AS WELL.
11:36:00 SO THERE ARE COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE STATED PREVIOUSLY THAT
11:36:07 APPLY --
11:36:12 SO THAT'S THE WORK THE INDEPENDENT PANEL IS DOING, SO
11:36:14 THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE PIECES, SAY
11:36:19 AND THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES AS A WHOLE.
11:36:23 BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY DOING AN ANALYSIS ON BEHALF OF THE
11:36:28 OTHER ALTERNATIVES NEED TO BE DONE AS WELL, AND THAT'S
11:36:31 WHY WE HAVE -- TO ADDRESS THESE MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVES.
11:36:41 IT IS A PROJECT, BUT HAS MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVES.
11:36:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
11:36:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR, AND DR.
11:36:57 DAIGGER, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:36:59 YOU HAVE BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL AND I JUST WANT TO THANK
11:37:01 YOU FOR THAT, SIR, FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE.
11:37:04 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE EXPERTS.
11:37:07 AS AN ATTORNEY IN CIVIL LITIGATION AND TRIAL ATTORNEY,
11:37:10 YOU ALWAYS LOOK TO HAVE THE BEST EXPERTS FOR THE JURY,
11:37:13 AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND OTHERS EXPERTISE.
11:37:18 AND WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT DIALOGUE AND TALKING WITH
11:37:21 DIFFERENT GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS, SIERRA LEAGUE
11:37:25 OBVIOUSLY VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:37:26 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BRINGS UP I THINK IS SOME VERY GOOD
11:37:30 ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
11:37:31 SOMETHING THAT I WAS DISCUSSING WITH THE STAFF YESTERDAY
11:37:33 IS THE INVOLVEMENT OF CITY STAFF TALKING WITH OUR
11:37:38 FRIENDS, BECAUSE WE HEAR A LOT FROM OUR FRIEND AT TAMPA
11:37:41 BAY WATER ON THE PURE PROJECT, OR REGIONAL IDEAS AND
11:37:46 SOLUTIONS, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JAN OR
11:37:48 SOMEONE FROM CITY STAFF CAN ANSWER.
11:37:51 BUT IS THERE ANY SORT OF A DIALOGUE OCCURRING WITH OUR
11:37:54 FRIENDS OVER AT TAMPA BAY WATER AT ALL?
11:37:56 >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A RESPONSE BY STAFF.
11:38:08 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:38:09 THAT'S WHY I WAS GIVING YOU ALL THOSE COMPLIMENTS BEFORE,
11:38:11 SIR.
11:38:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TURN YOUR MIKE ON, JAN.
11:38:21 TURN YOUR MIKE ON.
11:38:22 >>JAN MCLEAN: OKAY.
11:38:28 JAN MCLEAN FOR THE LORD, OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.
11:38:30 AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ARE NOT ENGAGING IN A DIALOGUE
11:38:34 WITH STAFF OF TAMPA BAY WATER.
11:38:39 THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE IF WE WANT TO GIVE THEM
11:38:43 A CALL AND HAVE INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEY ACTUALLY
11:38:48 WERE AWAITING FOR THE CITY TO IDENTIFY AN ALTERNATIVE,
11:38:52 AND THAT WAY THEY COULD FOCUS THE DIALOGUE ON THAT
11:38:56 ALTERNATIVE.
11:38:58 I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MOST CORRECT
11:39:02 CHARACTERIZATION OF WHERE WE STAND WITH STAFF FOR TAMPA
11:39:06 BAY WATER.
11:39:07 WE ARE KIND OF WAITING -- THEY ARE KIND OF WAITING FOR US
11:39:10 TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WE ARE DOING GOING FORWARD.
11:39:13 >>LUIS VIERA: SO THEY ARE WAITING FOR US TO HAVE A
11:39:18 RESOLUTION OF THIS ISSUE WHICH I THINK MAY VERY WELL TAKE
11:39:21 A LONG TIME AND WHATNOT, AND I JUST MAKE THAT INQUIRY.
11:39:25 I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USEFUL AND WHATNOT.
11:39:28 AND I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO HAVE IT PREDICATED IN A
11:39:33 RESOLUTION FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WHEN THAT DIALOGUE
11:39:36 COULD BE PART OF OUR RESOLUTION, RESPECTIVELY.
11:39:39 >>JAN MCLEAN: AND I THINK ONCE YOU HEAR THE PRESENTATION
11:39:42 ON THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE
11:39:47 DEPTH AND BREADTH OF THE ALTERNATIVES BEING PUT FORWARD
11:39:50 THAT ACTUALLY DON'T INCLUDE TAMPA BAY WATER.
11:39:52 SO BECAUSE LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, I AM JUST GOING TO THROW
11:39:55 ONE OUT THERE, I AM WAITING FOR THE ROOM TO OPEN UP, BUT
11:39:58 IF WE THEY'RE WAS A CONSIDERATION OF EXPLAINING OUR
11:40:01 RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM FOR IRRIGATION, THAT WOULDN'T
11:40:04 INCORPORATE ANY KIND OF CONSIDERATION BY THE TAMPA BAY
11:40:07 WATER AUTHORITY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT TRIPPING ANYTHING
11:40:14 THAT'S IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
11:40:16 SO I COULD CONCEDE MAYBE THEIR POSITION, BUT ARE THERE
11:40:21 OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE COULD AT LEAST GENERALLY
11:40:24 DISCUSS?
11:40:27 BUT THAT'S WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW.
11:40:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN RECOGNIZED.
11:40:31 >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT REAL FAST.
11:40:35 I THINK WHAT MS. MCLEAN SAID IS ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE.
11:40:42 I HEARD THAT THERE WAS A MISCONCEPTION BECAUSE OF A
11:40:45 COMMENT THAT CHUCK HART, INTERIM GENERAL MANAGER AT TAMPA
11:40:50 BAY WATER MADE TO HIS BOARD, WHERE HE SAID THAT THEY
11:40:55 WANT -- WE GOT A COLLEAGUE ON THE BOARD HERE, BUT HE SAID
11:40:59 THAT HE WANTED TO WAIT AND HEAR WHAT CITY STAFF CAME BACK
11:41:04 WITH.
11:41:04 I CALLED THEM TO CLARIFY THAT, AND HE SAID WHAT MS.
11:41:08 MCLEAN JUST SAID WAS THEY ARE AVAILABLE ANYTIME CITY
11:41:11 STAFF WANTS TO TALK.
11:41:12 THEY ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO EVALUATE ANY SPECIFIC
11:41:14 PROPOSALS, BUT IF THE CITY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT
11:41:17 COLLABORATING, THEY CAN.
11:41:18 AND I ALSO TALKED TO CHUCK WEBER, WHO HAS HAD
11:41:21 CONVERSATIONS, ONGOING CONVERSATIONS, I KNOW MS. DUNCAN
11:41:25 AND OTHERS HAVE AS WELL.
11:41:26 SO I APPRECIATE THAT STAFF HAS BEEN HAVING THOSE
11:41:28 CONVERSATIONS.
11:41:29 I HOPE THEY CONTINUE IT.
11:41:30 I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS.
11:41:32 IF IT ENDS UP WE DON'T NEED TO PARTNER WITH THEM, GREAT.
11:41:36 BUT IF THERE IS A REGIONAL SOLUTION I THINK THAT'S WHAT
11:41:38 OUR REGIONAL PARTICIPATES WOULD APPRECIATE AND ALSO WOULD
11:41:40 BE AT LEAST FROM WHAT I KNOW WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT
11:41:45 FISCALLY.
11:41:46 THANK YOU.
11:41:46 >>JEAN DUNCAN: IF I COULD COMMENT ON THAT.
11:41:52 JEAN DUNCAN.
11:41:54 I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE [~DISTORTION~] BEING DISCUSSED
11:42:03 WITH STAFF FOR -- IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
11:42:15 SO WE ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING THAT IN PROCESS.
11:42:20 THANK YOU.
11:42:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU HAVE ORION
11:42:23 PRESENTATION FOR ITEM 6?
11:42:28 HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU HAVE ON YOUR ITEM 6?
11:42:31 >>BRAD BAIRD: I'M SORRY.
11:42:42 DO WE WANT TO START WITH THE NEXT PRESENTATION?
11:42:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF IT WILL GET US TO 12 AND GET THE
11:42:49 ITEM NUMBER 7, HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU HAVE FOR YOUR
11:42:52 PRESENTATION?
11:42:53 >>BRAD BAIRD: I WILL INTRODUCE THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS
11:43:05 TEAM HERE AND PROVIDE YOU BACKGROUND ITEMS TO ADD TO WHAT
11:43:11 JEAN SAID EARLIER.
11:43:21 BASED ON SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND DETAILS -- AND THE
11:43:28 SELECTED FIRM PROCESS AND ANALYSIS, REQUIREMENTS IN TAMPA
11:43:40 BAY AREA WATER RESOURCES KNOWLEDGE.
11:43:42 AND I AM GOING TO SAY IT MADE IT A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO
11:43:51 SELECT A FIRM OR TEAM TO SUBMIT, TO BE PART OF A DESIGN
11:44:00 BUILD TEAM THAT WOULD DESIGN AND BUILD THE SELECT
11:44:04 PROJECT.
11:44:04 SO THAT WAS COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S, A REQUEST FROM YOU, AND
11:44:11 WE WANTED TO HONOR THAT.
11:44:13 THE SELECTION PROCESS RESULTED IN SBE, AND WITH THAT, I
11:44:24 WILL INTRODUCE THE LEADERS TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
11:44:29 FIRST, WE HAVE ACROSS FROM ME IS SUZY, THE OWNER OF --
11:44:36 CONSULTING AND WAS PREVIOUSLY A SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER
11:44:40 WITH TAMPA BAY WATER.
11:44:42 AND THEN TO HER RIGHT WE HAVE -- A SPECIAL ENGINEERED
11:44:49 WITH APPLIED SCIENCES, AND PREVIOUSLY THE ASSISTANT
11:44:53 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER
11:44:55 MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
11:44:58 SO MARK WILL BE LEADING OFF WITH THE PRESENTATION.
11:45:02 SO IF WE COULD HAVE PULLED UP THE MARKET ANALYSIS
11:45:13 PRESENTATION.
11:45:14 MARK, TAKE IT AWAY.
11:45:15 >> MARK: THANK YOU, BRAD.
11:45:17 GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:45:19 MY NAME IS MARK --
11:45:24 AND IN A FEW MINUTES I WILL BE TURNING IT OVER TO SUZY
11:45:29 FOLSOM, PRESENTING THE WORK DONE ON THE ALTERNATIVES
11:45:34 ANALYSIS.
11:45:36 NEXT SLIDE.
11:45:38 WE VOTED ALTERNATIVES, TO EVALUATE THE ALTERNATIVES TO
11:45:49 SOLVE THESE THREE PROBLEMS THE CITY HAS FACED, THE
11:45:55 ELIMINATION OF RECLAIMED WATER DISCHARGE FROM HOWARD F.
11:45:59 CURREN.
11:46:00 TWO, COMPLIANCE WITH THE LOWER HILLSBOROUGH RIVER MINIMUM
11:46:03 FLOWS AND LEVELS.
11:46:05 THREE, SUSTAINABILITY OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER RESERVOIR
11:46:09 AS A WATER SOURCE FOR THE DAVID L. TIPPIN WATER TREATMENT
11:46:13 FACILITY DURING PERIODIC DROUGHTS.
11:46:16 AND ALLOW THE CITY PERMITTED FOR.
11:46:22 NEXT SLIDE.
11:46:25 THE BACKGROUND, THE CITY OF TAMPA'S PRIMARY SOURCE OF
11:46:29 WATER IS HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:46:32 THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER DAM FORMS -- THAT THE CITY DRAWS
11:46:39 WATER OUT OF AND IT'S TREATED AT THE DAVID L. TIPPIN
11:46:42 WATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
11:46:44 SINCE BESIDE 1980s THE CITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO MOVE WATER
11:46:49 FROM -- HAS BEEN ABLE TO AUGMENT THE RESERVOIR WITH WATER
11:47:00 FROM THE TAMPA BAY BYPASS PACAL, BUT IT'S ALSO USED --
11:47:10 WHEN IT FLOWS INTO HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, THEY ARE ABLE
11:47:17 TO -- WATER FROM THE BYPASS CANAL.
11:47:23 SINCE 2000 THE CITY WAS ABLE TO USE A RECOVERY SYSTEM,
11:47:29 ASR, WHERE THEY ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE -- TO TREAT WATER
11:47:36 FROM THE RIVER, STORE IN THE GROUND AND RECOVER FROM THE
11:47:42 AQUIFER TO MEET DEMAND.
11:47:45 AS A MEMBER OF TAMPA BAY WATER, THE LARGEST WATER IS
11:47:50 TAMPA BAY WATER, WHAT FLOW FROM THE RIVER FLOWS FROM THE
11:47:55 BYPASS CANAL, AND ASR IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE
11:48:02 CITY'S DEMAND.
11:48:04 IN ADDITION, THE CITY'S FACILITY, LAST YEAR THEY TREATED
11:48:16 ABOUT -- GALLONS PER DAY AND 14 MILLION GALLONS A DAY
11:48:23 DISCHARGED INTO HILLSBOROUGH BAY.
11:48:25 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
11:48:29 WE EVALUATED 16 DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING
11:48:39 COMPONENTS AND SUBCOMPONENTS THAT WERE INDIVIDUALLY OR
11:48:47 THAT SOLVED THE THREE PROBLEMS THE CITY IS FACING.
11:48:50 THE ALTERNATIVE COMPONENTS, ONE WAS LOOKING AT EXPANDING
11:48:53 THE CURRENT ASR FACILITY, GETTING WATER FROM THE RIVER,
11:48:58 TREATING IT, STORING IT INTO THE AQUIFER, A NUMBER OF
11:49:06 ALTERNATIVES THAT INVOLVED RECLAIMED WATER, DISCHARGED,
11:49:14 ONE WAS LOOKING AT TAKING OUT THE RECLAIMED WATER,
11:49:17 TREATING IT AND THEN DISCHARGING IT AT THE BASE OF THE
11:49:20 DAM TO MEET MINIMUM FLOWS, AND ANOTHER LOOKED AT TREATING
11:49:26 THE RECLAIMED WATER, RECHARGING THE AQUIFER, AND
11:49:33 DISCHARGING IT INTO THE RESERVOIR, TO BE ABLE TO USE --
11:49:39 AND ALSO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL ON THE
11:49:43 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:49:46 ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE WAS TREATING IT TO DRINKING WATER
11:49:50 STANDARDS AND USING IT FOR POTABLE DRINKING WATER.
11:49:56 LASTLY ON THE RECLAIMED WATER, EXPANDING OUR EXISTING
11:50:01 RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM, EITHER IN AREAS OF THE CITY OR
11:50:07 CITY-WIDE, AND ALSO LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD
11:50:12 LOOK STRATEGICALLY AT ANY LARGE USER.
11:50:16 THESE RECLAIMED WATER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE LOOKED AT,
11:50:21 ALTERNATIVES THAT LOOKED AT A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT
11:50:26 PLANT, BY DISRUPTING WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES THAT
11:50:31 MAY PROVIDE PROCESSES -- [~DISTORTION~]
11:50:36 BECAUSE THE SOURCE OF RECLAIMED WATER IS A POTENTIAL
11:50:40 SOURCE, SELL RECLAIMED WATER.
11:50:52 CONSERVATION.
11:50:55 THE CITY HAS A LONG HISTORY IN CONSERVATION.
11:50:59 IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.
11:51:07 DEEP WELL INJECTION.
11:51:10 THIS IS DISCHARGE WATER, RECLAIMED WATER INTO THE GROUND,
11:51:24 DISPOSAL -- [~DISTORTION~] FOR RECLAIMED WATER.
11:51:31 PURCHASE ADDITIONAL WATER FROM TAMPA BAY WATER, NOT ONLY
11:51:34 FOR WATER SUPPLY, BUT TO ALLOW MINIMUM FLOWS.
11:51:42 AND ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IS THE DO-NOTHING ALTERNATIVE,
11:51:48 WHICH THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO DOING NOTHING.
11:51:50 WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. FOLLOW SOME.
11:51:56 FOLSOM.
11:51:58 >> THANK YOU, MARK.
11:52:02 OUR NEXT SLIDE.
11:52:15 WE DECIDED THAT -- [ INAUDIBLE ] AND ELIMINATING
11:52:30 WASTEWATER DISCHARGE, AND MEET THE MINIMUM FLOWS OF THE
11:52:34 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:52:38 NEXT SLIDE.
11:52:49 COMBINATION 1.
11:52:52 EXPANDED ASR AND RECLAIMED WATER DISTRIBUTION.
11:53:21 [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:53:23 THE RECLAIMED WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, AND DOWN EVERY
11:53:35 STREET IN EAST TAMPA.
11:53:39 THIS WOULD MAKE RECLAIMED WATER AVAILABLE TO ALL PERSONS
11:53:46 IN THE CITY.
11:54:00 CONTINUING THE PIPES, AND
11:54:11 [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:54:15 DEEP WELL INJECTION.
11:54:22 THE WATER IS INJECTED TO 1,000 FEET.
11:54:28 FINALLY, INCREASING WATER FROM TAMPA BAY WATER DURING THE
11:54:34 DRY SEASON.
11:54:39 NEXT SLIDE.
11:54:47 COMBINATION 2.
11:54:51 BENEFICIAL DISCHARGE TO MEET MFL, SELL RECLAIMED WATER.
11:55:04 A NEW PIPELINE TO THE BASE OF THE DAM.
11:55:29 TAMPA BAY WATER FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.
11:55:34 NEGOTIATED AND AGREEMENT, AND THAT AGREEMENT, TERMS,
11:55:43 LOCATION, AND QUALITY AND WATER QUALITY.
11:55:51 CONSERVATION AND DEEP WELL INJECTION FOR RECLAIMED WATER.
11:55:58 NEXT SLIDE.
11:56:05 COMBINATION 3.
11:56:07 THE CITY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON.
11:56:18 AQUIFER RECHARGE, RECOVERY AND DISCHARGE.
11:56:25 NEW PIPELINE, AND DEEP INJECTION WELL.
11:56:35 RECOVERY WELLS THAT ARE ABOUT 200 FEET DEEP, HILLSBOROUGH
11:56:40 RIVER ...
11:56:55 SALTWATER INTRUSION BARRIER.
11:57:16 NEXT SLIDE.
11:57:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU HAVE?
11:57:25 IT'S GOING ON 12 RIGHT NOW.
11:57:26 >> I HAVE SIX MORE SLIDES.
11:57:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME, MAYBE 15 MORE
11:57:38 MINUTES, 12:15, GENTLEMEN?
11:57:40 ARE YOU FINE?
11:57:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:57:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:57:45 WE WILL BREAK AT 12:15 IF NOT SOONER ONCE SHE FINISHES
11:57:49 HER PRESENTATION.
11:57:50 YOU MAY CONTINUE.
11:57:51 >> COMBINATION 4 PROVIDES, DIRECT PORTABLE WATER DIRECTLY
11:58:03 DISTRIBUTED.
11:58:09 [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:58:27 THIS WILL REQUIRE A NEW DISTRIBUTION PUMP STATION, WATER
11:58:34 PLANT DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
11:58:41 CONSERVATION, ADVANCED METERING.
11:58:46 SOME OF THE EXISTING POTABLE WATER CAPACITY IS NO LONGER
11:58:52 UTILIZED IF THIS OPTION IS PURSUED.
11:58:55 ALSO, THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW POTABLE WATER BY THE CITY --
11:59:03 AND PURSUE ALTERNATIVES WITH AN AGREEMENT FROM TAMPA BAY
11:59:07 WATER BY TAMPA BAY WATER.
11:59:14 NEXT SLIDE.
11:59:22 EVALUATION SCORING CRITERIA.
11:59:25 THIS SLIDE THE CRITERIA.
11:59:54 30 POINTS FOR HILLSBOROUGH BAY DISCHARGE REDUCTION.
11:59:58 25 POINTS MFL COMPLIANCE.
12:00:02 20 POINTS SUPPLY RELIABILITY.
12:00:05 IMPLEMENTATION FEASIBILITY CATEGORY.
12:00:12 PROPERTY ACQUISITION, PERMITTING AND APPROVALS,
12:00:15 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS REQUIRED, PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE.
12:00:22 OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, SOUGHT WATT INTRUSION, STANDARD
12:00:27 ASSETS, DURATION TO IMPLEMENT, TAMPA BAY WATER INTERLOCAL
12:00:32 AGREEMENT CONSIDERATION, GRANT FUNDING POTENTIAL, PUBLIC
12:00:36 IMAGE.
12:00:38 NEXT SLIDE.
12:01:12 ALSO LOOKED AT COSTS.
12:01:17 ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, 30 YEAR LIFE CYCLE COST.
12:01:24 NEXT SLIDE.
12:01:29 THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE COST ESTIMATES AND RANKING.
12:01:43 NEXT SLIDE.
12:01:55 ALTERNATIVE COMBINATION, COST RANKING, BENEFIT RANK,
12:02:02 COMBINED RANK SCORE.
12:02:04 NEXT SLIDE.
12:02:09 AS JAN MCLEAN SAID EARLIER, THE PLAN [INDISCERNIBLE]
12:02:21 FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF THE FOLLOWING STRUCTURE
12:02:23 COMPONENTS OF COMBINATION 2 AND 3.
12:02:28 COMBINATION 2, DIRECT DISCHARGE TO LOWER HILLSBOROUGH
12:02:30 RIVER TO MEET MFL.
12:02:37 COMBINATION 3, RECHARGE TO AQUIFER, RECOVERY TO
12:02:40 RESERVOIR.
12:02:47 HOWEVER IT DOES RELY ON TWO THINGS, [~DISTORTION~]
12:03:36 [INDISCERNIBLE] I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE
12:03:46 ANY.
12:03:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
12:03:49 >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS TO THE ENGINEERING FIRM FOR DOING
12:03:53 THIS AND FOR AGREEING TO NOT WORK ON THE PROJECT
12:03:56 AFTERWARDS.
12:03:56 I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:03:58 THANK YOU TO BRAD AND STAFF FOR INSISTING ON THAT.
12:04:04 SUBJECTIVITY ON THIS.
12:04:05 THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH OUR REQUESTS TO DO
12:04:07 THIS ANALYSIS.
12:04:08 THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I HAVE SEEN THIS.
12:04:11 AS OF THIS MORNING, ANYWAY.
12:04:12 I HAVEN'T SEEN IT ON SIRE.
12:04:15 SO PLEASE EVERYBODY POST IT AND LET'S TRY TO FIGURE OUT
12:04:17 HOW TO GET IT TO THE PUBLIC.
12:04:19 BECAUSE I HAVE JUST SEEN IT, I CAN'T COMMENT ON ANY OF
12:04:23 THE ANALYSES.
12:04:26 I KNOW WHAT MY GUT RESPONSE IS BUT I WANT TO LOOK AT IT
12:04:29 AND WHAT WE ASKED FOR IS A FAIR ANALYSIS.
12:04:31 SO I WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT.
12:04:33 ONE THING ON THE PURPLE PIPES PROJECT, OR PROSPECT, IS
12:04:37 THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT AN ALTERNATIVE MODELING WHERE WE
12:04:42 SAY IF SOMEBODY HAS ACCESS TO PURPLE PIPES THAT WE WOULD
12:04:45 PAY FOR THE HOOKUP AND THEN IF WE DID THAT THEY WOULD BE
12:04:47 REQUIRED TO USE THAT FIRST FOR THEIR YARDS, AS A
12:04:50 CONSERVATION METHOD.
12:04:51 I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN FLORIDA UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A
12:04:54 SHORTAGE OF POTABLE WATER AND PEOPLE WOULD RATHER PUT THE
12:04:57 WATER ON THEIR LAWNS THAN DRINK IT.
12:04:59 AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A WILLING BUYER, WE JUST
12:05:03 HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE GROUND.
12:05:05 BUT THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT PART, WHICH I KNOW THERE'S
12:05:08 PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT COMING UP.
12:05:10 WHEN WE DID THE RATE INCREASE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I WENT
12:05:13 TO I THINK THREE OF THE FOUR PUBLIC MEETINGS.
12:05:16 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS, BUT I HOPE THAT WE
12:05:19 HAVE A LOT MORE THAN FOUR MEETINGS, AND I HOPE THAT
12:05:22 THERE'S EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY.
12:05:24 THIS IS ONE -- YOU SAW THE NUMBERS.
12:05:27 IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST DECISIONS WE ARE GOING TO MAKE.
12:05:30 THE NUMBERS ARE EVEN HIGHER THAN I EXPECTED.
12:05:32 AND SO IT'S BIGGER THAN THE WHOLE PIPES PROJECT, JUST FOR
12:05:38 ALTERNATIVE 3.
12:05:39 SO WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC
12:05:41 UNDERSTANDS, AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON THE
12:05:44 RATE INCREASE, MANY PEOPLE WHEN THEY GOT THEIR FIRST BILL
12:05:48 COMPLAINED TO US BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY HAD NO IDEA THE
12:05:50 RATES WERE GOING TO GO UP EVEN THOUGH WE HAD PUBLIC
12:05:54 MEETINGS.
12:05:54 SO I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT HAS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, STAFF AND
12:06:01 CHIEF OF STAFF IS WORKING ON BUILDING A PUBLIC FACING
12:06:06 COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, BUT WE NEED TO BE REALLY
12:06:09 THOROUGH ABOUT REACHING AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE IN THE
12:06:11 PUBLIC, AND PLEASE ALSO INVITE US, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
12:06:14 TO ATTEND EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO EACH
12:06:17 OTHER.
12:06:18 I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THE
12:06:20 PUBLIC SAYS FIRST HAND AND HOW THE PUBLIC RESPONDS TO
12:06:22 THIS OTHER THAN JUST GETTING THE E-MAILS AND CALLS.
12:06:24 WE NEED TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF WHAT THE
12:06:27 PUBLIC THINKS, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY HAPPY
12:06:29 OR REALLY ANGRY WITH IT.
12:06:31 THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
12:06:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:06:35 ANYONE ELSE?
12:06:37 MR. BAIRD?
12:06:38 >>BRAD BAIRD: THE ONLY THING, I DO WANT TO SAY THE
12:06:48 REPORT, WORKSHOP ANALYSIS, IS DUE IN EARLY JUNE, AND NWRI
12:06:54 TOWARD THE END OF JUNE.
12:06:56 AND BOTH OF THOSE -- YOU SAW TODAY IN THE PRESENTATION.
12:07:04 SO WE WILL BE SHARING THOSE OF COURSE WITH CITY COUNCIL.
12:07:14 >>JEAN DUNCAN: I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT IT IS ALREADY ON
12:07:19 YOUR AGENDA TO COME BACK IN JUNE FOR THE WORKSHOP.
12:07:30 WE CERTAINLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE DO WANT TO
12:07:33 ENGAGE THE PUBLIC AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE WE
12:07:43 HEAR ANY CONCERNS THEY HAVE.
12:07:47 I DO WANT TO ASK IF WE COULD INCLUDE IN THAT SAME
12:07:50 WORKSHOP THAT BRAD REFERENCED, THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS
12:07:58 REPORT, AND HAVING QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THE INTERIM FOR
12:08:08 THE NEXT WORKSHOP IN JUNE, AND AT THAT POINT WILL FEEL
12:08:13 MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DETAILS AND THE COMPLEX
12:08:16 UNDERTAKING AND HAVE A CHANCE TO IS ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE
12:08:18 THE NEXT WORKSHOP, SO WE ARE READY TO PRESENT ANYTHING
12:08:23 THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
12:08:27 IF WE COULD -- GET INFORMATION, WE COULD SET THAT FOR THE
12:08:36 NEXT WORKSHOP IN JUNE.
12:08:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE, GENTLEMEN?
12:08:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:08:42 I LOOKED AT AND YOU HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF YOU,
12:08:46 AND MS. DUNCAN DID MAKE REFERENCE TO THE WORKSHOP ON I
12:08:50 BELIEVE -- AND BE MORE SPECIFIC -- THIS IS ABOUT THE
12:08:55 COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS AND THE PUBLIC SURVEY RELATED TO
12:08:59 THE PURE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, OR HOW WOULD YOU PHRASE
12:09:02 THAT?
12:09:02 BECAUSE WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE
12:09:05 BENEFIT OF BOTH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, IF YOU LOOK AT
12:09:08 THE 11:30 ITEM ON THE 24th OF JUNE IT DOESN'T MAKE
12:09:12 SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO WHAT PROJECT OR WHAT DEPARTMENT.
12:09:15 AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO AMEND YOUR CALENDAR BY MOTION TO
12:09:19 THE CLERK TO BE ABLE TO NOTICE THE PUBLIC AS WELL THAT
12:09:24 THIS IS COMING, IN WHATEVER FORM YOU WISH TO COMMUNICATE
12:09:27 IT SO IT'S CLEAR ON YOUR CALENDAR.
12:09:29 THANK YOU.
12:09:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
12:09:33 MR. CARLSON MADE REFERENCE TO MAKING SURE WE HAVE
12:09:36 ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY ARE AWARE
12:09:39 OF THESE ITEMS THAT DO COME BACK, BECAUSE WHAT I AM
12:09:42 FINDING OUT SOMETIMES THAT WE HAVE THESE LAST-MINUTE
12:09:45 THINGS THAT POP UP AND THE COMMUNITY IS NOT AWARE, THEN
12:09:47 WE GET YELLED AT FOR THE COMMUNITY NOT KNOWING ABOUT
12:09:50 THEM.
12:09:51 SO I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT NOTION.
12:09:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE RIGHT NOW IT READS THE
12:10:01 ADMINISTRATION TO APPEAR AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON PUBLIC
12:10:04 COMMUNICATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE FINDINGS FROM THE FOUR
12:10:08 COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS AND THE PUBLIC SURVEY.
12:10:11 MAYBE STAFF OR MS. MCLEAN COULD ACTUALLY MAKE A
12:10:14 SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL AS TO HOW IT SHOULD READ ON THE
12:10:17 CALENDAR JUST FOR PUBLIC NOTICE AND CLARITY, FRANKLY.
12:10:20 MAYBE REFERENCE THE DEPARTMENT, MAYBE REFERENCE THE
12:10:22 PROJECTS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED.
12:10:24 >>JAN MCLEAN: OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.
12:10:29 I WOULD DEFINITELY SUGGEST THAT WE INCLUDE THERE PROPOSED
12:10:36 PROJECTS, INCORPORATING THE USE OF THE CITY'S RECLAIMED
12:10:41 WATER, AND CONSIDERATION, FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF THE
12:10:44 ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS AND THE REPORTS THERETO.
12:10:47 SO THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER NOTICE OF WHAT -- WE WERE
12:10:53 TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT THE ITEM WAS ON THAT
12:10:56 DATE.
12:10:56 THAT'S ALL THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THAT ONE IS.
12:10:59 SO IF THAT'S AMENABLE TO THE COUNCIL, I THINK THAT WOULD
12:11:03 GIVE THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL A BETTER IDENTIFICATION
12:11:06 OF WHAT YOU ARE COMING BACK HERE TO HEAR.
12:11:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
12:11:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND MORE IMPORTANTLY BY THAT TIME YOU
12:11:13 AND THE REST OF US SHOULD KNOW WHAT TALLAHASSEE HAS
12:11:15 DECIDED THROUGH THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY ARE GOING
12:11:17 THROUGH REGARDING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND A TIMETABLE BY
12:11:20 NOVEMBER 1st, AND ALL THE WAY OUT, SO THAT THE PUBLIC
12:11:23 UNDERSTANDS WHY ALL THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
12:11:26 >>JAN MCLEAN: YES, SIR.
12:11:27 WE SHOULD HAVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THAT BY THEN.
12:11:30 YES.
12:11:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION ON THAT?
12:11:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT COULD BE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT BASED
12:11:36 ON MS. MCLEAN'S REPRESENTATIONS.
12:11:39 DOES THE CLERK NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION?
12:11:41 WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING TO BE ABLE
12:11:44 TO --
12:11:47 >>THE CLERK: SOMETHING IN WRITING WOULD BE GREAT.
12:11:49 THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE THE CURRENT WORDING AND REFLECT IN
12:11:51 THE CALENDAR THAT WE PUT OUT BEFORE THE NEXT AGENDA
12:11:55 MEETING.
12:11:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL WORK WITH MS. MCLEAN AND PROVIDE
12:12:01 THAT TO THE CLERK.
12:12:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY CITRO, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
12:12:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:12:06 APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
12:12:10 ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, WE STAND ADJOURNED TILL 1:30.
12:12:12 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
12:12:14
12:12:15
12:12:15 (TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECESS)
01:30:34 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:30:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:30:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:30:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:30:44 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:30:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
01:30:48 WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
01:30:50 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:31:13 >> WE GOT YOU.
01:31:17 >>DENNIS ROGERO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:31:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A SMALL WELCOME SCREEN AT THE
01:31:37 TOP OF THE PAGE.
01:31:46 WE GOT IT, SIR.
01:31:49 WE HAVE IT.
01:31:49 YES, SIR.
01:31:50 >>DENNIS ROGERO: OUTSTANDING.
01:31:52 THANK YOU.
01:31:53 THANK YOU.
01:31:54 I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF, JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK REFRESH
01:32:00 OF LAST YEAR'S PIPES ISSUE.
01:32:03 THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF COURSE AS YOU WILL RECALL
01:32:04 APPROVED WHAT WE STILL THINK IS A VERY WELL CRAFTED
01:32:08 INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM, AND YOU WILL ALSO RECALL THAT IT
01:32:11 WAS PLANNED TO BE IMPLEMENTED VIA THE FUNDING SOURCES YOU
01:32:15 SEE HERE.
01:32:16 MORE PLANNED DEBT ISSUANCES THROUGH 2024, PLANNED USE OF
01:32:22 FUND BALANCE, AND CORRESPONDING MULTIYEAR RATE STRUCTURE.
01:32:25 THAT'S THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR.
01:32:30 WHEN THAT RATE STRUCTURE THAT WAS DONE AS YOU CAN SEE TO
01:32:32 ENHANCE THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THAT PROGRAM.
01:32:35 WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, THE MAYOR WANTED TO MAKE SURE,
01:32:39 COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REVENUES ARE GOING
01:32:41 TO BE THERE YEARS FROM NOW AS WE COMPLETE THE PLANNED
01:32:44 PROJECT.
01:32:48 THE INITIAL DEBT YOU WILL RECALL WAS $360 MILLION AND IT
01:32:52 WAS BASED ON THAT PIPES PROGRAM.
01:32:54 THAT'S WHY WE DID IT.
01:32:56 IT WAS SIZED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CURRENTS ECONOMIC
01:32:59 ENVIRONMENT AT THE TIME, THE LOW INTEREST RATE.
01:33:01 IT CAPTURED SAVINGS BY REFINANCING EXISTING DEBT.
01:33:06 IT SAID STRONG DEBT SERVICE COVERAGES AND WAS PLANNED TO
01:33:09 RESULT IN THE BUILD-UP OF AND EVENTUAL REDUCTION OF
01:33:13 SIGNIFICANT FUND BALANCE TOTALS.
01:33:19 ALL OF THESE COMBINED LED TO THOSE VERY HIGH CREDIT
01:33:25 RATINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
01:33:26 AS NOW THE CITY WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM REMAINS ONE
01:33:30 OF ONLY TWO SYSTEMS IN FLORIDA WITH THE HIGHEST RATING OF
01:33:34 EACH CREDIT AGENCY.
01:33:36 OF COURSE I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY MUCH OF THAT
01:33:39 CREDIT ALSO BELONGS TO THE WORLD CLASS TEAMS WE HAVE GOT
01:33:42 RUNNING THOSE SYSTEMS.
01:33:46 MOVING ONTO FUND BALANCE, FIRST, OF COURSE, WE APPRECIATE
01:33:50 CITY COUNCIL'S CONTINUING EMPHASIS ON STRONG FUND
01:33:54 BALANCES ACROSS OUR CITY'S FUND STRUCTURE.
01:33:58 THE WATER DEPARTMENT'S FUND BALANCE WAS STRONG PRIOR TO
01:34:01 THE PIPES DEBT AND THAT WAS BY DESIGN FOR THE REASONS YOU
01:34:05 SEE HERE.
01:34:06 THE CITY'S EXPERIENCE WITH THE GREAT RECESSION, THE
01:34:09 DROUGHT THAT PRETTY MUCH COINCIDED WITH THAT PERIOD, AND
01:34:13 THE CONTINUED DETERIORATION OF PIPELINES, AGAIN ONE OF
01:34:17 THE REASONS WE STARTED PIPES PROGRAMS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
01:34:20 SO THEY STARTED OUT STRONG.
01:34:23 AND AFTER THE PIPES DEBT ISSUANCES, IT REMAINED STRONG.
01:34:27 AGAIN, THAT'S PLANNED.
01:34:29 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON ITEM 8, PLANNED USE OF SIGNIFICANT
01:34:33 ACCUMULATED FUND BALANCE FOR THE PIPES PROJECT, ALL PART
01:34:36 OF THE PLAN.
01:34:37 AGAIN, THE EXCELLENT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGES THAT HELPED
01:34:42 AND SAVED US MONEY.
01:34:44 OF COURSE WE WANT A FUND BALANCE FOR THE NONPAY-GO
01:34:47 PROJECTS FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT COME UP THAT ARE OUTSIDE
01:34:50 THE PIPES PROJECT, NOT JUST PIPES.
01:34:54 AND CHANGING FUTURE CONDITIONS.
01:34:57 IT'S A REASONABLE AND SOUND PRACTICE TO KEEP FUNDING
01:35:02 AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THINGS THAT COME UP AND THOSE THINGS
01:35:04 THAT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.
01:35:05 I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
01:35:06 WITH THE REBOUNDING ECONOMY WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW AND
01:35:10 THE PRESSURE ON DESIGN FIRMS, CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS,
01:35:13 AND COST INCREASES, WE ARE ALREADY SEEING SIGNIFICANT
01:35:17 COST CHANGES TO OUR PROJECT.
01:35:22 YOU SEE HERE OVER THE NEXT TWO SLIDES OUR ANTICIPATED USE
01:35:26 OF FUND BALANCE FOR THE PROJECTS.
01:35:28 OVER HALF OF THE PROJECT FUNDING NEXT YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE,
01:35:33 THAT LARGE SECTION IS GOING TO GO FOR PIPES PROJECT,
01:35:36 NEARLY $70 MILLION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
01:35:39 YOU SEE THE GRAY IS THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE BLUE IS THE
01:35:43 PAY-GO.
01:35:46 I'LL GIVE YOU THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
01:35:49 YOU CAN SEE WE STARTED LEADING INTO OUR FUND BALANCE THIS
01:35:52 YEAR, BUT AGAIN WE ARE GOING TO HIT IT FOR $70 MILLION IN
01:35:56 THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
01:36:00 MOVING ONTO POTENTIAL SAVINGS AND REFINANCING.
01:36:04 WHEN CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PIPES DEBT OF NEARLY 360
01:36:07 MILLION-DOLLAR ALMOST A QUARTER OF THAT OR ABOUT $90
01:36:12 MILLION WAS TO REFINANCE EXISTING DEBT.
01:36:15 ALL WITHOUT EXTENDING THAT DEBT.
01:36:18 TAKING ADVANTAGE AGAIN OF THOSE VERY LOW RATES.
01:36:22 DOING SO, YOU SEE HERE, CHIEF SAVINGS OF OVER $14 MILLION
01:36:26 IN PRESENT VALUE.
01:36:28 ADDITIONALLY, AND EVEN BIGGER, WHILE WE ISSUED THAT DEBT,
01:36:32 WE RECEIVED ALMOST $440 MILLION IN CASH FOR WHAT THEY
01:36:38 CALL A PREMIUM OF $79 MILLION.
01:36:42 WHY DID WE GET THE PREMIUM?
01:36:44 VERY STRONG INTEREST IN OUR BOND.
01:36:46 STRONG DEMAND, BASED ON THAT BEING A SECURED INVESTMENT,
01:36:52 TIED TO THAT MULTIYEAR RATE STRUCTURE.
01:36:55 IT GAVE THE MARKET, IT GAVE INVESTORS A GREAT DEAL OF
01:36:59 SECURITY, AND IT WAS A VERY COMPETITIVE ISSUANCE.
01:37:04 ALL TOLD YOU SEE THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE.
01:37:07 POSSIBLY $93 MILLION IN FUNDING.
01:37:11 I SAY ALL THIS, AND I REFRESH THIS TO SAY THAT THE
01:37:14 SAVINGS AND REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES HAVE PRETTY MUCH
01:37:17 BEEN ACCOMPLISHED RIGHT NOW.
01:37:19 THERE MAY COME A TIME IN THE FUTURE WHERE REFINANCING
01:37:22 OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES, AND OF COURSE WE WILL
01:37:24 BRING THOSE TO COUNCIL.
01:37:26 BUT NOT AT THIS TIME.
01:37:30 COUNCIL MAY ALSO RECALL, WE UP-SIZED THE DEBT.
01:37:34 AGAIN, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS
01:37:36 THAT WERE IN THE MARKET.
01:37:38 WE WENT BIG RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
01:37:41 DOING THIS DIDN'T ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR FUND BALANCE OR
01:37:44 THE NEED FOR PAYROLL PROJECTS.
01:37:47 IT JUST FRONT LOADED OUR CASH POSITION SO WE COULD MAKE
01:37:50 THESE EXPENDITURES OVER TIME.
01:37:56 MOVING ONTO POTENTIAL REDUCTION OF RATES.
01:38:01 GIVEN WHAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED TO DO OVER THE NEXT
01:38:04 DECADE, THE ANTICIPATED REVENUES FROM THIS PLAN THAT YOU
01:38:06 CAN SEE HERE MEET ANTICIPATED EXPENSES AND COVERAGE
01:38:12 REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM.
01:38:18 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- BE IT FUND BALANCE OR PROJECTS.
01:38:28 BESIDES CURRENT AND ANTICIPATED DEBT OBLIGATIONS
01:38:31 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT MULTIYEAR RATE STRUCTURE, REDUCING
01:38:34 RATE NOW WE PROJECT WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THOSE
01:38:38 KEY FINANCIAL METRICS.
01:38:41 FUND BALANCE, RESERVES, AND THE DEBT COVERAGE YOU SEE
01:38:43 HERE.
01:38:45 AND BY REDUCING THE FUND BALANCE WE WILL REDUCE OUR
01:38:48 AVAILABLE FUNDING TO DO THOSE NEEDED PAYROLL PROJECTS.
01:38:58 TAMPA STILL RETAINS ONE OF THE LOWEST WATER RATES OF OUR
01:39:01 COMPARABLE CITIES AND COUNTIES AND FAR LOWER THAN THE
01:39:04 AVERAGE.
01:39:04 AS YOU SEE HERE.
01:39:06 CITY OF TAMPA IN BOLD TOWARDS THE TOP.
01:39:09 THE SURVEY AVERAGE AT THE BOTTOM.
01:39:11 AND OUR COMPARABLE JURISDICTIONS.
01:39:22 IN SUMMARY, THE PIPES PROGRAM REMAINS ON COURSE.
01:39:25 OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE STAY THE COURSE.
01:39:30 BEING OF COURSE AS I MENTIONED A DECADES LONG NEARLY $3
01:39:35 BILLION PROGRAM IS GOING TO CHANGE OVER TIME AND IT'S
01:39:38 GOING TO BE IMPACTED BOTH GOOD AND BAD BY ANY NUMBER OF
01:39:41 THINGS.
01:39:42 THE OVERALL ECONOMY, INTEREST RATES, INFLATION, COST
01:39:46 CHANGES, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND
01:39:50 SOME ARE JUST WAITING AROUND THE CORNER.
01:39:53 ALL I CAN TELL YOU FOR CERTAIN, OF COURSE, IS THAT
01:39:56 CIRCUMSTANCES WILL CHANGE.
01:40:03 OUR LEGAL PROFESSIONALS, OUR FINANCE PROFESSIONALS,
01:40:06 SYSTEM PROFESSIONALS BOTH INSIDE THE CITY AND OUTSIDE THE
01:40:10 CITY, WE ARE GOING TO MONITOR THOSE THINGS, WE ARE GOING
01:40:12 TO MONITOR THE ECONOMY, WE ARE GOING TO MONITOR THE
01:40:14 CITY'S FUND.
01:40:15 AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL BRING TO COUNCIL A RECOMMENDATION
01:40:18 TO CHANGE THE PLAN.
01:40:22 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
01:40:23 I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
01:40:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
01:40:28 MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
01:40:30 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THAT.
01:40:35 I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY THAT THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS OF
01:40:39 THE PUBLIC VERY UPSET ABOUT THE RATE INCREASE BECAUSE
01:40:41 THEY FELT THEY WEREN'T INFORMED ABOUT IT, DESPITE
01:40:45 WHATEVER COMMUNICATIONS THE CITY DID, THEY DIDN'T KNOW,
01:40:47 AND I THINK IT'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE
01:40:50 SURPRISED BY IT, SHOCKED BY IT.
01:40:51 BUT THERE'S CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE IS A
01:40:54 SLUSH FUND, AND YOU SHOWED ONE JUST NOW, AND ONE OF THE
01:41:00 THINGS I THINK YOU DIDN'T SHOW WAS, ONE OF THE CONCERNS
01:41:05 OF THE COMMUNITIES IS THIS MONEY IS BEING USED TO OFFSET
01:41:07 SOME OTHER PROJECTS, EITHER TOILET TO TAP WHICH THE
01:41:10 COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT, OR THE EXISTING BUDGET OF THE
01:41:15 WATER DEPARTMENT, AND USING KIND OF LIKE THE LOTTERY
01:41:20 MONEY.
01:41:20 SO YOU GET THE LOTTERY MONEY AND YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE
01:41:23 GOING TO SUPPORT EDUCATION BUT THEN YOU REDUCE THE
01:41:25 EDUCATION BUDGET OR USE IT ON SOMETHING ELSE.
01:41:28 SO I THINK WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING US TO DO IS
01:41:31 TO BE FISCALLY PRUDENT IF WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THE RATES
01:41:35 WHERE THEY ARE, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO REDUCE THEM,
01:41:39 AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS, BY THE WAY.
01:41:42 I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO GET BOND COUNSEL TO TALK TO US
01:41:46 ABOUT WHAT THAT MARGIN IS.
01:41:48 YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT RATING THE RESERVE FUNDS LIKE THE
01:41:51 LAST ADMINISTRATION DID.
01:41:52 WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE PRUDENT ABOUT HOW MUCH WE KEEP,
01:41:58 AND IF THERE'S A SAVINGS WITH THE REST OF THE WATER
01:42:02 BUDGET, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT
01:42:05 WITH THE PUBLIC, AND IN PARTICULAR THIS COUNCIL TOOK OUT
01:42:07 THE TOILET-TAP PROJECT SO I AM HOPING THAT WE DON'T POINT
01:42:11 OUT ANY ACCOUNTING THAT ANY MONEY FOR THIS IS USED ON
01:42:15 THAT.
01:42:17 ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT?
01:42:20 WITH THE ALLEGATION THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
01:42:22 SAID THIS IS LIKE THE LOTTERY MONEY, WHERE WE ARE
01:42:24 OFFSETTING SOME EXISTING WATER COSTS AND WE SHOULD
01:42:28 THEREFORE OVERALL REDUCE THE WATER RATE, MAYBE NOT
01:42:31 CONNECT TO THIS BOND, THESE BONDS?
01:42:38 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
01:42:40 WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THAT PREVIOUSLY.
01:42:42 AGAIN, I WILL CAST IT IN PRE-PAPERS DEBT AND POST-PIPES
01:42:45 DEBT.
01:42:46 EVEN SETTING ASIDE THE PIPES DEBT AND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO
01:42:49 THE FUND BALANCE, BY DESIGN, WE HAVE STRONG FUND
01:42:52 BALANCES, AND STRIFE TO HAVE STRONG FUND BALANCES IN ALL
01:42:56 OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
01:42:58 FROM A WATER FUND PERSPECTIVE, FOR THE REASONS I HAVE
01:43:01 GONE OVER, YOU WANT A STRONG FUND BALANCE.
01:43:04 BUT THAT IS THE PART I WAS REFERENCING ABOUT NON-PIPES
01:43:08 PROJECTS.
01:43:10 IT WOULD BE UP TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO SPEND A
01:43:14 PORTION OF THE FUND BALANCE FOR EXAMPLE ON THE PURE
01:43:17 PROJECT, ON THE TAP PROJECT, ET CETERA.
01:43:22 IF YOU FORAY INTO THE PIPES FUNDING YOU WOULD HAVE TO
01:43:26 REDUCE SOME PIPES PROJECTS, OR THE FUND BALANCE, AGAIN
01:43:31 ADVERSELY IMPACTING THOSE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGES, IF YOU
01:43:34 WANTED TO FUND SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE PIPES PROGRAM
01:43:38 WITH PIPES MONEY.
01:43:39 SO WE HAVE A VERY STRONG FUND BALANCE, AND THAT'S BY
01:43:43 DESIGN.
01:43:44 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I JUST SAY SOMETHING?
01:43:46 WHEN WE WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, WE TOLD THEM THAT WHAT
01:43:50 YOU CALL PURE, I CALL TOILET TO TAP PROJECT WAS NOT
01:43:54 INCLUDED, AND HAD THEY KNOWN THAT, THEY PROBABLY WOULD
01:43:56 HAVE PROTESTED IT TO A LARGER EXTENT.
01:43:59 AND MY UNDERSTANDING BY TAKING IT OUT IS THAT WE HAVE TO
01:44:02 GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY FOR A RATE CASE.
01:44:04 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
01:44:06 >>BILL CARLSON: IF THAT'S CHANGED THEN WE NOW HAVE
01:44:08 ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THE TOILET TO TAP PROJECT.
01:44:11 I PROPOSE A RATE REDUCTION, BECAUSE A RATE INCREASE GIVES
01:44:16 US TRANSPARENCY.
01:44:17 WE JUST HEARD THE PROPOSAL, THAT'S BETWEEN TWO AND A HALF
01:44:20 AND $7 BILLION FOR THAT PROJECT, AND WHATEVER FORM IT
01:44:24 TAKES, AND I THINK WE DON'T NEED IT AND SO IF WE HAVE THE
01:44:29 MONEY TO DO IT, I THINK THAT'S AN EXTRA LAYER THAT WE
01:44:33 SHOULD GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY, DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR
01:44:35 IT?
01:44:35 DO YOU WANT THAT EXTRA TEN OR TWENTY DOLLARS A MONTH RATE
01:44:40 INCREASE BECAUSE OF THAT?
01:44:41 OR IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE THAT MONEY CAN WE REDUCE
01:44:44 THE RATE BY SEVERAL DOLLARS?
01:44:47 >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND IF I CAN CLARIFY, I THINK YOUR
01:44:50 POINT WAS -- AND HE DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU, BUT I
01:44:53 THINK YOUR POINT WAS IF WE ARE GOING TO USE -- IF WE ARE
01:44:58 GOING TO FUND THE PIPES PROGRAM IT WILL REQUIRE A RATE
01:45:01 STUDY.
01:45:02 IT ABSOLUTELY WILL.
01:45:03 IF YOU ARE GOING TO -- I'M SORRY, THE PURE PROGRAM, OR
01:45:06 THE TOILET TO TAP, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IF YOU
01:45:08 ARE GOING TO DO A PROGRAM OUTSIDE OF THE PIPES PROGRAM,
01:45:13 OF THAT MAGNITUDE, 300 MILLION PROGRAM, YOU WILL HAVE TO
01:45:18 DO A RATE STUDY, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A RATE
01:45:20 INCREASE.
01:45:23 IF THE MAYOR, IF COUNCIL -- AND I THINK THIS WAS YOUR
01:45:27 OTHER POINT BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU -- WERE TO
01:45:29 USE PAPERS FUNDING FOR A PURE PROGRAM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO
01:45:35 REDUCE PIPES PROJECT.
01:45:37 YOU SIMPLY CAN'T DO A 300, $350 MILLION PROGRAM WITHOUT
01:45:42 RAISING RATES AND DOING A RATE STUDY JUST AS YOU SAID.
01:45:45 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO PUT A CAP ON IT, BESIDES THE
01:45:50 OTHER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO ASK THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY THINK
01:45:53 ABOUT THESE PROJECTS TO RAISE THE RATES WE HAVE TO GO TO
01:45:55 THE PUBLIC AND GET THEIR INPUT AGAIN, RATE?
01:45:59 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
01:46:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
01:46:03 ANYONE ELSE?
01:46:05 THANK YOU, SIR.
01:46:05 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:46:09 I APPRECIATE IT.
01:46:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 8.
01:46:16 >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR, COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD
01:46:27 AFFAIRS.
01:46:31 IT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS
01:46:35 ITEMS BOTH 8 AND 9 AT THE SAME TIME.
01:46:38 ITEM 8 IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM
01:46:44 THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU IN AND ITEM 9 IS TO
01:46:48 PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE EBO PORTION OF THE PIPES
01:46:51 PROGRAM.
01:46:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE HAVE NO OBJECTION, GENTLEMEN, 8
01:46:55 AND 9.
01:46:56 ANY OBJECTION?
01:46:57 YOU MAY PROCEED.
01:46:57 >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU.
01:46:59 DO YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
01:47:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T., THE PRESENTATION?
01:47:26 >>OCEA WYNN: OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:47:28 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
01:47:30 SO WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU BEFORE COUNCIL, WE DISCUSSED
01:47:34 WITH YOU THE ISSUES OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE
01:47:38 BROUGHT TO US BY NOT ONLY YOU BUT ALSO SOME OF YOUR
01:47:42 CONSTITUENTS, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED AS
01:47:45 WELL IN TERMS OF THOSE BARRIERS, THOSE THINGS THAT WERE
01:47:52 PREVENTING US FROM REALIZING THE READY, WILLING AND ABLE
01:47:56 CONTRACTORS OF NBEs, WSBLEs, AND WMBEs AS WELL.
01:48:05 SO WHAT WE WILL DO TODAY IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THOSE
01:48:09 THINGS THAT WE FOUND, TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS AS
01:48:14 WELL AS PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE
01:48:16 OUTCOMES OF THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY -- HAVE ACTUALLY
01:48:20 OCCURRED.
01:48:21 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
01:48:23 SO EBO IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN
01:48:28 BETTER SERVE THE PUBLIC, SERVE THE CONTRACTORS AND SERVE
01:48:32 YOU AS WELL.
01:48:34 ONCE WE STARTED UNWRAPPING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH
01:48:38 THERE WERE 22 OF THEM, WE ACKNOWLEDGED, WE REALIZED THAT
01:48:42 IT WOULD BE A GREAT FEAT TO CONCENTRATE ON ALL 22 AT ONE
01:48:47 TIME.
01:48:47 WE WROTE BROKE THEM UP IN GOALS THAT WE COULD OVERSEE,
01:48:52 THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO, AND THOSE GOALS ARE IMPROVING
01:48:58 COMMUNICATION, INCREASING PARTICIPATION AND IMPROVING
01:49:01 BUSINESS ENGAGEMENT.
01:49:05 I'LL PROVIDE JUST AN UPDATE OF THOSE 22 ITEMS.
01:49:11 WE CHOSE ABOUT HALF OF THEM AND WE WILL GO THROUGH WHAT
01:49:15 DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
01:49:17 WHEN WE STARTED REALLY UNPACKING THOSE 11
01:49:24 RECOMMENDATIONS, 11 OUT OF THE 22, WE REALIZED THAT THEY
01:49:27 WERE CATEGORIZED IN TWO AREAS.
01:49:29 ONE WAS IN POLICY ISSUES, AND OTHER ONES WERE
01:49:32 PROGRAMMATIC.
01:49:34 SO MAKING SOME OF THESE CHANGES, WE WILL TALK ABOUT
01:49:39 THOSE.
01:49:40 THE FIRST ONES THAT WAS PRESENT WAS TO INCREASE THE
01:49:43 SHELTER MARKET PROGRAM FROM $300,000 TO $400,000.
01:49:49 THAT IS IN THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT.
01:49:54 WE ARE WORKING INTERNALLY AS WELL AS UNDER THE ADVICE OF
01:49:59 LEGAL IN TERMS OF WHAT DO THOSE STEPS MANY TO TAKE TO
01:50:05 PRESENT THAT TO YOU AS A POLICY CHANGE?
01:50:10 THE SECOND ONE WAS TO INCREASE THE PURCHASING THRESHOLDS
01:50:15 FOR INFORMAL BIDS FROM $25,000 TO $100,000.
01:50:20 THOSE THRESHOLDS HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1993.
01:50:25 AND THE DROPPED POLICY FOR THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER LEGAL
01:50:30 REVIEW.
01:50:32 WE ARE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE THRESHOLDS FOR BIDS AND
01:50:37 RFPs REQUIRING YOUR APPROVAL, COUNCIL, FROM $100,000 TO
01:50:43 $150,000.
01:50:45 AND THAT POLICY IS UNDER LEGAL REVIEW BEFORE BEING
01:50:49 PRESENTED BEFORE YOU.
01:50:52 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, I THINK LAST WEEK,
01:50:55 AND WE TALKED IN OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU,
01:51:00 WAS TO INVESTIGATE CREATING A BONDING AND FINANCE PROGRAM
01:51:05 FOR WMBEs AND FLBEs.
01:51:11 JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU WHERE WE ARE ON THIS IS THAT THE
01:51:14 STATE STATUTES ALREADY ALLOW FOR US TO WAIVE BONDS ON
01:51:21 SHELTERED MARKETS FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS UP TO
01:51:25 $200,000.
01:51:26 AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY DOING THAT.
01:51:28 ANYTHING GREATER THAN THE $200,000 WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE
01:51:33 STATE TO GET THOSE CHANGES.
01:51:38 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE ARE ASKED TO LOOK AT HILLSBOROUGH
01:51:41 COUNTY'S PROGRAM.
01:51:41 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS DOING THAT AS WELL AS WE.
01:51:45 HOWEVER, HOW WE ARE UNLIKE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND
01:51:49 THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE, AND WE ARE
01:51:55 EXPLORING, IS THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OFFERS EDUCATIONAL
01:51:59 COMPONENTS TO THEIR CONTRACTORS ON BONDING AND INSURANCE
01:52:04 AND SURETIES.
01:52:09 AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.
01:52:10 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT RENTING SOME OF THOSE IDEAS TO APPLY
01:52:13 WITHIN OUR CONTRACTORS SO THAT WE CAN ALSO ADD THE SAME
01:52:18 VALUE-ADD WITH OUR WORK, WITH OUR CONTRACTORS AND
01:52:22 CONSTITUENTS AS WELL.
01:52:25 WE ARE INVESTIGATING REDUCING INSURANCE LIMITS FOR
01:52:32 WMBEs AND SLBEs AS PRIME CONTRACTORS WHEN
01:52:39 APPROPRIATE.
01:52:42 CURRENTLY, WE REVIEW CONTRACTS, CONTRACTORS INSURANCE
01:52:47 REQUIREMENTS, AND SEE IF THEY ARE APPLICABLE.
01:52:51 NOW, WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?
01:52:53 THERE WERE CONTRACTORS, LIKE DELIVERY CONTRACTORS WHO HAD
01:52:58 ENORMOUS INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND THE ONLY THING THEY
01:53:01 WERE DOING WAS DROPPING OFF THE DELIVERY PRODUCTS, OR
01:53:05 MOUING CONTRACTORS, WHENEVER WE SEE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES
01:53:08 WHERE WE CAN REDUCE OR EVEN DROP THOSE BONDS AND
01:53:13 INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, WE ACTUALLY DO THAT.
01:53:16 AND WE ARE EXPLAINING THAT FURTHER.
01:53:22 WE WERE ASKED TO ESTABLISH A WMBE, SBE GOALS UP FRONT
01:53:29 PRIOR TO DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTS, AND FOR CCNA, RFQs.
01:53:36 WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT WE ARE REVIEWING THE WMBE AND
01:53:41 SLBE GOAL ESTIMATES ON THOSE CONTRACTS PRIOR TO THE
01:53:48 CONTRACT -- IN THE SCOPE DEVELOPMENT PHASE.
01:53:53 AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE USING HISTORICAL MEASURES
01:53:57 THAT WERE SIMILAR TO CONTRACTS IN THE PAST, AND SETTING
01:54:02 THOSE GOALS.
01:54:03 NOW, AFTER THE CONTRACTOR -- THE SCOPE HAS BEEN
01:54:09 CONFIRMED, THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE, WE'LL GO BACK AND
01:54:12 WE'LL ADJUST THOSE ACTUAL GOALS FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
01:54:19 WE ARE ASKED TO AGGRESSIVELY ENHANCE THE E-CODE SYSTEM
01:54:23 FOR WMBE BUSINESSES THROUGH RECRUITMENT, CERTIFICATION
01:54:27 SUPPORT, TRAINING, MENTOR PROTEGE PROGRAMS, TO INCLUDE
01:54:32 STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT, AND OTHER SUPPORT EFFORTS.
01:54:39 IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, WE HAD OUR BRIDGES FOR BUSINESS
01:54:42 PROGRAM.
01:54:42 WE JUST HAD ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL BRIDGES TO BUSINESS
01:54:45 PROGRAM LAST WEEK.
01:54:49 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS TO GET FEEDBACK IN
01:54:54 TERMS OF HOW WE BETTER SUPPORT NEW BUSINESSES?
01:54:57 I THINK HISTORICALLY WE ARE JUST GIVING THE CONTRACTOR
01:55:01 SOMETHING, BUT NOW WORRY TAKING THAT EXTRA STEP TO SAY WE
01:55:06 WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
01:55:07 AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY CONDUCTING
01:55:12 SURVEYS.
01:55:13 SO AS BRIDGES TO BUSINESS, WE ARE DOING A SURVEY TO SAY
01:55:18 HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM US?
01:55:20 WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS YOU CAN DO BETTER TO SUPPORT YOU IN
01:55:23 YOUR EFFORTS IN SUPPORTING THE CITY?
01:55:26 SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPILING ALL OF THAT
01:55:30 INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN BETTER SERVE THE PUBLIC.
01:55:35 PART OF THAT IS TO -- WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TO ASK HOW DID
01:55:40 YOU HEAR ABOUT US, SO THAT WE'LL KNOW WHAT METHODS THE
01:55:44 BEST WAYS TO COMMUNICATE AS WELL.
01:55:48 BUT THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE
01:55:54 NOT TO PUT SOMETHING IN A NEWSPAPER.
01:55:55 SO AGAIN WE ARE COMPILING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
01:56:01 WE WERE TO ENHANCE INDUSTRY, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT
01:56:04 THROUGH INTERACTION TO INCREASE SUBCONTRACTING
01:56:08 OPPORTUNITIES.
01:56:11 WE HAVE SOME OF THE PRIME CONTRACTORS FOR MATCH MAKING
01:56:15 EVENTS, TWO SCHEDULED WITHIN THE REMAINING OF THIS
01:56:21 CALENDAR YEAR.
01:56:22 THE FIRST OF THE TWO WILL BE IN JUNE, AND THE NEXT ONE
01:56:28 WILL BE IN DECEMBER.
01:56:30 AND THESE ARE FOR THE LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
01:56:35 THE LARGE PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN MEET THE PRIMES WITH THE
01:56:40 CONTRACTORS AND THEY CAN COLLABORATE.
01:56:45 ANOTHER AREA THAT YOU ASKED US TO REALLY LOOK AT, AND
01:56:49 THAT IS LOOK AT THE BAND WIDTH OF OUR EBO OFFICE.
01:56:54 YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE?
01:56:56 WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T GET CERTIFICATIONS OUT DONE
01:57:00 EXPEDITIOUSLY?
01:57:02 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS THAT WE CAN USE OUR CHANGE
01:57:06 MANAGEMENT AREA TO GO INTO THE EBO OFFICE TO DO A DEEP
01:57:10 DIVE, PEEL BACK THE COVERAGE, TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS
01:57:14 THAT WE DEEM NECESSARY FOR OUTSOURCING, OR DEEM NECESSARY
01:57:19 ONCE WE BRING SOMEONE IN, WE CAN HAVE THEM LASER FOCUSED
01:57:23 ON THE AREAS THAT WE NEED IMPROVED.
01:57:26 WE USE THIS METHODOLOGY AND OTHER DEPARTMENT PORT KNOLL
01:57:30 OWES IN THE CITY HAVE PROVEN TO BE QUITE BENEFICIAL AND
01:57:34 SUCCESSFUL.
01:57:37 IN TERMS OF ENHANCING OUR COMMUNICATIONS, WE HAVE DONE
01:57:43 A -- HAVE PLACED A SIX-MONTH LOOK AHEAD FOR UPCOMING
01:57:48 OPPORTUNITIES ON OUR CAD WEBSITE, CONTRACT CAD DEPARTMENT
01:57:55 WEBSITE.
01:57:55 THIS IS ACTUALLY POSTED STARTING IN APRIL, AND THAT IS
01:58:00 CONTINUING TO BE UPDATED.
01:58:03 WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR MATCHMAKING AND SUBCONTRACTING
01:58:08 EVENTS BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAVE SEEN NOT ONLY WE CAN PROVIDE
01:58:12 THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LINK THOSE BUSINESSES, BUT WE CAN
01:58:15 ALSO IDENTIFY THE AREAS WHERE WE SEE GAPS, AND PROVIDING
01:58:20 THOSE TYPES OF HELP AND RESOURCES FOR THOSE PARTICULAR
01:58:25 AREAS.
01:58:25 WITH ALL OF THOSE STEPS AND MEASURES THAT WE HAVE TAKEN
01:58:28 OVER THE LAST FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, ON BEHALF OF BOTH GREG
01:58:35 HART AND GREG SPEARMAN TO PRESENT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN,
01:58:40 AND HOW HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO REALIZE SOME OF THE
01:58:43 SUCCESSES?
01:58:46 SO PRESENTATION AND GREG, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE.
01:58:49 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN GUDES AND CITY COUNCIL,
01:58:56 GREGORY HART, CITY OPPORTUNITY OFFICE.
01:59:01 WE ARE CERTAINLY -- AND I BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO MOVE
01:59:04 TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
01:59:09 IF YOU WILL.
01:59:09 YES.
01:59:10 COUNCIL, YOU WERE REQUESTING AN UPDATE OF OUR PROGRESSIVE
01:59:14 INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING TO ENSURE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM.
01:59:17 AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE CURRENT STATUS OF
01:59:21 THAT PROGRAM.
01:59:22 AS YOU KNOW, IT IS A 20-YEAR $3 BILLION ENDEAVOR.
01:59:28 IF I CAN BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE TOP SQUARE ON THIS
01:59:33 PARTICULAR SLIDE.
01:59:36 THE EPO PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY TRACKING 62 CONTRACTS
01:59:40 TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 1.2 BILLION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
01:59:44 IMPROVEMENTS.
01:59:45 THE MIDDLE SQUARE IS REFLECTING 46 OF THOSE 62 PROJECTS
01:59:50 THAT ARE ACTIVE CONTRACTS, EQUATING TO APPROXIMATELY
01:59:56 ACTUALLY $377 MILLION.
01:59:59 LET ME NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT IN BUILDING THIS GRAPH,
02:00:05 WE DID TRANSPOSE SOME NUMBERS, SO THAT 843 MILLION THAT
02:00:09 YOU ARE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE 16 PROJECTS
02:00:16 AWAITING FINAL DEVELOPMENT OF GNP BUDGETS SO THE 46
02:00:23 PROJECTS SHOULD READ 377 MILLION.
02:00:27 THAT ARE ACTIVATED CURRENTLY.
02:00:31 THE REMAINING 16 PROJECTS WHICH AWAIT FINAL GNP FINAL
02:00:38 BUDGET APPROVAL EQUATE TO AN ESTIMATED 843 MILLION.
02:00:42 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOTED FOR THE RECORD.
02:00:46 OF THOSE 46 PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTIVATED UNDERWAY, WE HAVE
02:00:51 ACHIEVED 22% PARTICIPATION, OR APPROXIMATELY $80 MILLION.
02:01:00 AND I AM GOING TO ADDRESS HOW THAT GETS DISTRIBUTED IN
02:01:04 TERMS OF THE CERTIFICATION GROUPS IN JUST A SECOND.
02:01:07 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOTTOM
02:01:10 SQUARE, WHICH IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.
02:01:15 IT'S SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT'S THE CRITERIA THAT HAS BEEN
02:01:19 APPLIED FOR SELECTING THE PRIME CONTRACTORS.
02:01:24 IT'S A NEW POLICY CHANGE THAT MAYOR CASTOR IMPLEMENTED TO
02:01:31 BOLSTER THE EBO PROGRAM OF INCLUSION, DIVERSITY AND
02:01:35 EQUITY, AND MAYOR CASTOR ACTUALLY SAW TO IT THAT THE WAY
02:01:41 TO POINT FOR PROPOSALS WITH WMBE AND SLB PARTICIPATION
02:01:49 HAD A VERY SIGNIFICANT AND WEIGHTED INCENTIVE ASSOCIATED
02:01:53 WITH IT.
02:01:53 SO WHAT THAT REPRESENTS IN TERMS OF THE SIGNIFICANT
02:01:57 INCREASE WAS WE WENT FROM A 5 TO 20-POINT WEIGHTED
02:02:01 SCORING FOR WMBE INCLUSION OUT OF A TOTAL 100 POINTS IN
02:02:07 THE SELECTION PROCESS.
02:02:10 PROPOSERS HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE AS A RESULT, AND MORE
02:02:14 STRATEGIC AS A RESULT OF THAT INCENTIVE, WITH THEIR GOOD
02:02:17 FAITH EFFORT, AND OUTREACH RESPONSIBILITIES.
02:02:21 SO THAT HAS DEFINITELY GOTTEN THE ATTENTION OF IN THE
02:02:28 COMMUNITY.
02:02:29 THEY REALIZE THEY CAN EITHER WIN OR LOSE BEING SELECTED
02:02:33 BY THE CBNA SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR THESE LARGE CAPITAL
02:02:37 PROJECTS SUCH AS PIPES BASED ON THEIR EFFORT AND
02:02:46 INCLUSION OF WOMEN AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, SMALL
02:02:49 BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY THOSE UNDERUTILIZED GROUPS.
02:02:53 SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE LOOK AT THE NEXT
02:02:57 SLIDE, BECAUSE I WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW THAT 22% OF $80
02:03:02 MILLION IS EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED AMONG OUR CERTIFIED
02:03:06 COMPANIES.
02:03:10 AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PIE CHART, 31% OF THE PIPES
02:03:17 PROGRAM NBE, WBE, PARTICIPATION, 31% IS CONTRACTED WITH
02:03:25 OUR BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISES BBEs, AND IT'S NOTABLE
02:03:31 ON THIS CHART, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MENTION THAT LAST
02:03:34 WEEK, MAYOR CASTOR KICKED OFF ASIAN-AMERICAN PACIFIC
02:03:38 ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH AND IT'S FITTING TO HIGHLIGHT ON
02:03:42 THIS CHART THAT OUR ASIAN BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, THE
02:03:47 PARTICIPATION, CONTRACT COMMITMENTS, ARE 25% UNDER THE
02:03:51 PIPES PROGRAM.
02:03:52 SO I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT CERTAINLY WE HAVE TAKEN
02:04:00 THE COUNCIL'S EMPHASIS AND FOCUS ON DOING ALL THAT WE CAN
02:04:04 TO IMPROVE PARTICIPATION OF OUR LOCAL SMALL MINORITY
02:04:08 BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN THE PAPERS PROGRAM.
02:04:10 AGAIN, IT'S EQUIVALENT TO ALMOST $3 BILLION OVER A
02:04:15 20-YEAR PERIOD.
02:04:15 SO WE HIT THE GROUND TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S ONGOING AND
02:04:19 SUSTAINABLE PARTICIPATION, AND WE ARE JUST BEGINNING.
02:04:23 AS YOU WELL KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER 2 BILLION TO BE SPENT
02:04:28 OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
02:04:29 SO THIS IS A RECAP FOR YOUR DIGESTION, AND UPDATE TODAY
02:04:40 ON THE PIPES PROGRAM.
02:04:41 >>OCEA WYNN: SO GREG SPEARMAN, IF YOU COULD SPEAK ON THE
02:04:49 JOBS PROGRAM.
02:04:52 >>GREG SPEARMAN: THANK YOU, OCEA.
02:04:54 GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN GUDES AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
02:04:58 IF WE COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:05:08 THIS IS BASICALLY AN UPDATE THAT I AM SHARING WITH YOU
02:05:11 REGARDING EBO PARTICIPATION ENHANCEMENTS REGARDING THE
02:05:15 JOB ORDERED CONTRACTING PROGRAM.
02:05:17 AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE APPEARED BEFORE YOU ON SEPTEMBER
02:05:21 4th REGARDING THE FIVE JOC CONTRACTORS THAT YOU
02:05:27 APPROVED FOR THE JOB ORDERED CONTRACT PROGRAMS.
02:05:30 SO LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE
02:05:33 HAVE DONE TO ENHANCE EBO PARTICIPATION.
02:05:37 FIRST OF ALL, WE ESTABLISHED AS YOU HEARD MS. WYNN TALK
02:05:41 ABOUT TWO BRIDGES TO BUSINESS CERTIFICATION TOURS, ONE ON
02:05:46 MAY 13th AT THE BARKSDALE COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE
02:05:50 HAVE AN UPCOMING ONE ON JUNE 10th AT THE TAMPA
02:05:53 CONVENTION CENTER.
02:05:55 AND THE MAY 13th EVENT WAS KICKED OFF UNDER CASTOR,
02:06:00 AND WE ALSO HAD IN ATTENDANCE COUNCIL CHAIR GUDES, SO WE
02:06:05 THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING AND SUPPORTING THAT EVENT.
02:06:08 WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED NEWLY CITY CERTIFIED FIRMS DIRECT
02:06:13 CONTACT WITH JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS.
02:06:16 SO THE INTENT HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THESE FIRMS
02:06:21 BECOME CERTIFIED THAT WE GET THEM QUICKLY CONNECTED TO
02:06:26 THE JOC PLAN CONTRACTORS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE
02:06:30 THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY CAN BECOME QUICKLY
02:06:34 ENGAGED IF THEY ARE READY, WILLING AND ABLE TO
02:06:37 PARTICIPATE IN ONGOING JOB ORDER CONTRACTS.
02:06:41 THE THIRD BULLET, WE REQUESTED THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS
02:06:44 TO REFER NONCONTRACTORS TO E BO DEPARTMENT TO
02:06:50 CERTIFICATION.
02:06:51 IF THEY MEAT THE CERTIFICATION.
02:06:53 SO WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A SEGMENT OF SLBE AND WMBEs
02:07:01 WHO MAY BE WORKING WITH THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS THAT
02:07:04 MAY NOT BE CERTIFIED.
02:07:06 SO WE HAVE IMPRESSED UPON THE JOC PROGRAMS TO PLEASE
02:07:11 REFER THOSE COMPANIES TO MR. HART'S OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN
02:07:14 DETERMINE THE CERTIFICATION, AND TO GET THEM CERTIFIED AS
02:07:19 QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE NUMBERS
02:07:24 IN OUR REPORTING.
02:07:25 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:07:30 WE ALSO EDUCATED THE CITY COUPLE ON OUR JOC CONTRACT AS
02:07:39 WELL AS THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS ON THE WAY TO CAPTURE
02:07:42 TIMELY SUBCONTRACT PARTICIPATION INFORMATION.
02:07:45 NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
02:07:46 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS ARE
02:07:49 CAPTURING THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO CAPTURE ON THE
02:07:54 FORM 10s.
02:07:55 THESE WOULD BE THE FORMS THAT ARE USED BY OUTREACH.
02:07:58 AND SECONDLY, ON THE NBD FORM 20, AND THIS IS THE FORM OF
02:08:03 THE JOC CONTRACTORS REFLECTS A COMMITMENT AND UTILIZATION
02:08:07 OF UNDERUTILIZED CERTIFIED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:08:14 THE NEXT BULLET.
02:08:15 WE HAVE AN EBO RETRAINING SESSION, ECONOMIC DISTANCE
02:08:19 RETRAINING BUSINESS SESSION FOR JOC PRIME CONTRACT ON THE
02:08:23 USE OF THE B 2 G DIVERSITY SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN BE
02:08:27 ASSURED OF GETTING ACTIVE REPORTING OF SUBCONTRACT
02:08:30 PARTICIPATION IN A TIMELY MANNER.
02:08:32 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION FROM OUR
02:08:35 JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS SO THAT WE CAN REPORT THESE NUMBERS
02:08:39 ACCURATELY IN TIME OF PARTICIPATION SO WE HAD A
02:08:42 RETRAINING SESSION WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR THE JOC PLANS TO
02:08:46 USE THE B 2 G SYSTEM.
02:08:49 THE LAST BULLET IS THAT WE PROVIDED THE JOC PRIME
02:08:52 CONTRACTORS WITH LISTS OF CERTIFIED FIRMS FOR
02:08:57 CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION-RELATED TASKS TO ASSIST
02:09:00 WITH THEIR OUTREACH.
02:09:01 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
02:09:02 THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS WITH THE CITY KNOWN AS A JOINT
02:09:07 SCOPE SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS VERY BENEFICIAL, WHEN THAT
02:09:11 JOINT SCOPE IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT, TO IMMEDIATELY PROVIDE
02:09:14 THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS CITY CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS FOR
02:09:20 THOSE SPECIFIC TASKS THAT WE HAVE READY, WILLING AND ABLE
02:09:25 SUBCONTRACTORS SO THAT THEY CAN GET ENGAGED AS SOON AS
02:09:28 POSSIBLE BEFORE THE WORK HAS TO BE STARTED.
02:09:33 SO ALL THOSE THESE INITIATIVES, COUNCIL, ARE IN THE EARLY
02:09:36 STAGES OF IMPLEMENTATION BY THE CITY, WE HAVE SEEN
02:09:40 SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN SUBCONTRACTORS PERCENTAGES, AND
02:09:46 WE CAME TO YOU ON MARCH 4 OF 2021 OF THIS YEAR WHEN WE
02:09:53 USED FIVE JOC PRIME CONTRACTORS.
02:09:56 WE HAD A PARTICIPATION LEVEL OF ABOUT 1.2% FOR DBE.
02:10:02 WHILE THE BACKS WERE NOT CLOSED YET ON 2020, AND I WANT
02:10:05 TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT THOSE NUMBERS ONLY
02:10:08 REPRESENTED ABOUT SIX MONTHS OF REPORTING FOR 2020
02:10:13 BECAUSE WE ONLY STARTED THE JOC CONTRACTS IN ABOUT THE
02:10:16 JUNE, JULY TIME FRAME OF 2020.
02:10:18 OKAY?
02:10:18 SO THE ACTUAL PARTICIPATION FOR 2020 FOR CALENDAR 2020
02:10:25 FOR DBEs WAS 2.27%.
02:10:28 NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE PERCENTAGE LEVEL HAS BEEN
02:10:32 THIS YEAR IN 2021, SINCE BETWEEN THE PERIOD OF JANUARY
02:10:38 1st AND ABOUT THE LAST PART OF APRIL TO THE MIDDLE
02:10:43 PART OF MAY.
02:10:44 EBE PARTICIPATION, WMBE PARTICIPATION, RATHER, HAS
02:10:48 INCREASED FROM 2607% TO 47.02.
02:10:54 THAT REMITS AN 80% PARTICIPATION RATE.
02:10:59 FLB PARTICIPATION HAS GONE FROM 22.81% TO 27.4%.
02:11:06 THAT REPRESENTS A 20% PARTICIPATION INCREASE IN RATES.
02:11:11 BUT HERE IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THEM ALL, AND
02:11:15 THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE ASKED US TO WORK ON, IN PARTICULAR,
02:11:19 AND THE REASON THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED ALL OF THESE
02:11:22 ENHANCEMENTS, EBE PARTICIPATION HAS INCREASED FROM 2.26%
02:11:31 TO JUST UNDER 10%.
02:11:33 THAT REPRESENTS A 334% INCREASE IN DBE PARTICIPATION
02:11:40 UNDER THE JOC CONTRACT.
02:11:42 SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT THESE ENHANCEMENTS ARE
02:11:45 WORKING, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A FULL SIX MONTHS YET.
02:11:50 THIS IS JUST FROM JANUARY UNTIL ABOUT MID MAY.
02:11:54 SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT ENHANCEMENTS WE PUT IN PLACE,
02:11:58 ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE AT THE JOC PRIME, AND ALSO WITH OUR
02:12:02 CONSULTANT IN TERMS MUCH GETTING THOSE NUMBERS UP.
02:12:04 SO AT THIS POINT I AM GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION BACK
02:12:06 OVER TO MS. WYNN.
02:12:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A QUESTION.
02:12:12 I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL.
02:12:15 I TALKED TO SOME FOLKS, AND I AM GLAD THAT ADMINISTRATION
02:12:19 HEARD US, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
02:12:21 BUT THE ONLY POINT I AM STILL MISSING WHEN I STILL HEAR
02:12:24 THIS IS THAT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE TWO OF OUR
02:12:31 DEPARTMENT HEADS ON BOARD AND THEY UNDERSTAND JOC.
02:12:34 HOW -- WE ARE GOING TO HOLD EVERYBODY ELSE ACCOUNTABLE,
02:12:39 RETRAIN EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT HOW DO WE DO -- WHAT'S THE
02:12:44 EXTENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HOLD OUR PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE
02:12:46 FOR, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DOING AND MAKING SURE, I
02:12:50 WANT DON'T WANT TO SAY GOOD OL' BOY SYSTEM BUT MAKING
02:12:53 SURE WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO
02:12:56 DO ON OUR END WITH OUR PEOPLE BECAUSE I SEE WHERE WE ARE
02:12:58 TRAINING EVERYBODY ELSE, AND THE CONTRACTOR,
02:13:01 SUBCONTRACTOR, EVERYONE ELSE, WHAT KIND OF PERFORMANCE
02:13:04 EVALUATION ARE WE GOING TO HOLD OUR PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE
02:13:06 FOR TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
02:13:08 DO?
02:13:11 >> GO AHEAD.
02:13:12 >>OCEA WYNN: WELL, I WILL ANSWER MY PART OF THAT, GREG,
02:13:15 AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
02:13:22 COLLEEN AND I JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION, THAT WE CAN PUT
02:13:24 ALL THESE MEASURES IN PLACE, BUT HOW DO WE BRING THAT
02:13:27 IN-HOUSE, HOW DO WE BRING THAT INTO THE FAMILY?
02:13:30 SO PART OF IT IS TO MAKE ALL OF IT BE DECISION MAKERS IN
02:13:34 THE DEPARTMENTS AWARE THAT THERE IS A JOC PROGRAM, AND IT
02:13:37 IS AN AVENUE THAT THEY COULD USE, AS WELL AS PROVIDING
02:13:42 THOSE TYPES OF CONTRACTUAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY SHOULD
02:13:46 BE LOOKING AT, OR LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AT
02:13:51 USING JOC, AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE REQUIRED INTERNALLY, AND
02:13:57 THE DIRECTOR, ASSET MANAGEMENT, LOGISTICS MANAGEMENT AND
02:14:05 I HAD THAT CONVERSATION JUST YESTERDAY.
02:14:06 >>GREG SPEARMAN: AND WE HAVE ALSO HIGHLY PUBLICIZED THE
02:14:15 JOB ORDER CONTRACTING WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION, AND KEEP
02:14:19 IN MIND, COUNCIL, THAT A GOOD PART OF THE PARTICIPATION
02:14:23 PIECE REALLY RELIES UPON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE JOC
02:14:28 CONTRACTORS.
02:14:29 THESE CONTRACTORS ARE RATED IN TERMS OF THEIR
02:14:30 PERFORMANCE.
02:14:32 THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS
02:14:35 FULL ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT OF DBE PARTICIPATION.
02:14:39 WE WORK HAND IN GLOVE WITH MR. HART'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE
02:14:43 THAT HAPPENS.
02:14:43 SO IN ADDITION TO THE EFFORT THAT YOU HEARD MS. WYNN
02:14:47 SPEAK ABOUT, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE
02:14:50 PART OF THE JOC PRIME CONTRACTOR THAT WE BELIEVE BASED ON
02:14:53 THE NUMBERS I JUST SHARED WITH YOU THAT OUR EFFORTS ARE
02:14:56 HAVING SIGNIFICANT RESULTS.
02:14:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:15:00 MRS. WYNN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
02:15:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SORRY BUT IF I VOTED FOR JOC THE
02:15:08 LAST TIME I MADE A MISTAKE.
02:15:09 I HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR JOC THE LAST 15 YEARS, MR.
02:15:12 SPEARMAN.
02:15:13 I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ANYONE.
02:15:14 HOWEVER, I REMEMBER 15 YEARS AGO, JOC WAS AN OPERATION
02:15:18 THAT CAME INTO THE CITY AND ASKED A PUBLIC RECORDS
02:15:20 REQUEST FOR EVERYTHING AND ANYBODY DOING BUSINESS WITH
02:15:23 THE CITY AND YOU CAN STOP ME AND CORRECT ME ANYTIME I
02:15:27 WANT BECAUSE I MAY BE MISTAKEN AT SOME POINT.
02:15:29 THEN I WAS TOLD THAT THE JOC CONTRACTS WERE ONLY FOR
02:15:32 INDIVIDUALS ON SMALL ITEMS LIKE IF A CONTRACT WAS DOING A
02:15:35 ROADWAY AFTER THEY LEFT, BRINGING THE GRASS IN PLACE AND
02:15:41 PUTTING IN PODS AND MAKING IT LOOK PLEASING TO THE EYE,
02:15:44 THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
02:15:46 NOW, I SEE WHERE JOC IS THE PRIME CONTRACTOR OF PRIME
02:15:50 CONTRACTORS.
02:15:51 SO I DON'T KNOW, JOC CAME IN, DID A PUBLIC RECORDS
02:15:53 REQUEST, WE TURNED IT OVER TO THEM AND THEY SAID, OH,
02:15:56 THESE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH?
02:15:58 NOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO BUSINESS WITH ME.
02:16:01 THAT'S WHAT JOC IS.
02:16:02 THEY CAME IN, AND GOTH THE SAME CONTRACTORS THAT WE WERE
02:16:05 USING.
02:16:06 NOW THEY ARE CONTRACTING WITH JOC FROM WHAT I SEE HERE,
02:16:10 AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN GET A BETTER PRICE AND
02:16:14 HOW COME WE DIDN'T DO IT OURSELVES.
02:16:16 IN A REFLECTION ON YOU, SIR, PLEASE.
02:16:18 SO HOW DID JOC BECOME A PRIME CONTRACTOR THROUGH THE
02:16:22 PRIME CONTRACTORS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY OF
02:16:25 TAMPA?
02:16:25 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:16:26 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS NOT MORE COSTLY, AND
02:16:32 UNLESS SOMEHOW WE MISSED THE BALL.
02:16:35 I AM NOT SAYING SOMETIMES I DON'T MAKE AN ERROR.
02:16:37 I DO AND I ADMIT IT.
02:16:39 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS HOW DOES JOC SET ASIDE THE NEEDS
02:16:45 OF THE CITY AND ITS COST EFFECTIVENESS IF THEY ARE USING
02:16:48 THE SAME CONTRACTORS WE WERE USING BEFORE? WHERE IS THE
02:16:51 DIFFERENCE AND HOW DO THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT?
02:16:53 AND THE CONTRACTOR, HE DIDN'T BRING THEM IN, DIDN'T
02:16:57 CREATE NEW CONTRACTORS.
02:16:58 MAYBE SOME SMALL ONES SOMEWHERE BUT THEY ARE THE SAME
02:17:00 CONTRACTORS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN USING ALL ALONG.
02:17:02 AM I CORRECT OR WRONG?
02:17:06 YOU CAN TELL ME I AM WRONG.
02:17:08 I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT BEFORE.
02:17:11 >>GREG SPEARMAN: I AM A NOT AWARE, COUNCIL, OF THE PRIME
02:17:15 CONTRACTS USING THAT WE USED BEFORE FOR OTHER CONTRACTS.
02:17:18 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE JOB ORDER CONTRACT
02:17:21 PROCESS REALLY IS A TRIANGLE EFFECT IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO
02:17:26 THE WORK.
02:17:26 IT'S TIME, IT'S QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE.
02:17:29 AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK BECAUSE IT'S A
02:17:33 PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT, NUMBER ONE.
02:17:36 THEY CAN DO IT WITHOUT THE CITY HAVING TO GO OUT AND DO
02:17:40 MULTIPLE BIDS.
02:17:41 WE WILL INCREASE OUR WORKLOAD SIGNIFICANTLY HAVE TO HAVE
02:17:45 TO GO OUT AND BID ALL THESE CONTRACTS.
02:17:47 SO IT'S A PERFORMANCE BASED MANAGEMENT TOOL THAT MEASURES
02:17:51 TIME AND PERFORMANCE, AND WITHIN COST, I MIGHT ADD, AND
02:17:55 IT ALSO INCREASES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SLB AND SLBE --
02:18:02 >> I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT IT DOES THAT.
02:18:04 I AM DISPUTING MYSELF THERE'S A TUG-OF-WAR WITHIN THIS
02:18:06 LITTLE BODY THAT'S TELLING ME IF EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS
02:18:09 TRUE, THEN WE FAILED IN SOME DEGREE.
02:18:11 NOT YOU BUT WE FAILED IN GENERAL AS A CITY, THAT
02:18:15 PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT EVERY
02:18:18 CONTRACTOR IS PERFORMS BECAUSE IF YOU GET A CERTAIN
02:18:23 AMOUNT TO DO THE JOB ONE TIME CORRECTLY THAT'S
02:18:25 PERFORMANCE BASED.
02:18:26 SO YOU ARE TELLING ME, I GET A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN YOU
02:18:30 HEAR ALL THESE KINDS OF WORDS BECAUSE WE WERE DOING IT
02:18:34 BUT WE WEREN'T DOING IT RIGHT.
02:18:35 NOW THE JOC CONTRACTOR IS THE SAME CONTRACTORS THAT WERE
02:18:39 WORKING WITH US.
02:18:39 THEY DIDN'T BRING IN NEW PEOPLE.
02:18:41 THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE.
02:18:43 THEY AREN'T EVEN NEAR HER.
02:18:45 ONE IS IN WASHINGTON.
02:18:47 I CAN TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE BY NAME IF YOU LIKE.
02:18:49 I REMEMBER ALL THE NAMES BECAUSE I DID AN INVESTIGATION
02:18:52 ON MY OWN.
02:18:52 SO WHAT I AM SAYING, WHAT IS GOING ON THAT WE CANNOT DO
02:18:55 THE SAME THING?
02:18:57 AND I APPRECIATE THE WORDS THAT YOU ARE USING, THAT THEY
02:19:00 CAN DO IT RELIABLY FASTER.
02:19:04 HOW COME YOU COULDN'T DO IT FASTER?
02:19:06 YOU SAID YOU HAD TO GO OUT FOR BIDS.
02:19:07 I IMAGINE YOU ARE STILL GOING OUT FOR BIDS.
02:19:12 IF NOT THE BIDDERS ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN THAT A HIGH
02:19:16 BIDDER MAY GET A JOB.
02:19:17 I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
02:19:18 >>GREG SPEARMAN: AGAIN, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THIS IS THE
02:19:22 PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS US TO HANDLE MANY,
02:19:26 MANY PROJECTS, VERY, VERY EFFICIENTLY AND VERY
02:19:29 EFFECTIVELY.
02:19:33 WITHIN A REASONABLE COST.
02:19:38 WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THESE INDIVIDUAL MULTIPLE CONTRACTS
02:19:40 AND WE WOULD NOTABLE ABLE TO GETS THE WORK DONE AS
02:19:42 QUICKLY.
02:19:43 SO THIS IS THE PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT, IT ENABLES US
02:19:47 TO OPERATE IN A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT MANNER.
02:19:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, THE ONLY THING PERFORMANCE
02:19:52 BASED CONTRACT TO BE ALL OF THEM.
02:19:55 AND THEY SHOULD BE OUT OF THE PICTURE.
02:19:57 THEY HAVE GOT TO BE MAKING SOMETHING ON TOP OF WHICH WE
02:19:59 ARE PAYING. IF NOT THEY WOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS.
02:20:02 IT'S JUST LOGICAL.
02:20:03 SO EVERY TIME I SEE SOMEBODY TELLING THE SAME PEOPLE WHO
02:20:06 WE HAD AS CONTRACTORS WHAT TO DO, THERE'S A SLICE OF
02:20:09 MONEY GOING SOMEWHERE, AND I AM LOOKING AT THE HISPANIC
02:20:12 IS ONLY 5%.
02:20:14 AND I THINK WE DID A POOR JOB THERE.
02:20:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, I
02:20:24 KNOW IT WAS DOWNSIZED, AND HEAR MR. SPEARMAN SAYING THE
02:20:30 WORKLOAD, THE WORKLOAD.
02:20:31 I HEAR THE SAME THING IN OUR DEPARTMENT, THE WORKLOAD,
02:20:34 THE WORKLOAD.
02:20:35 AND WE AIN'T MOVING THE NEEDLE.
02:20:37 SO I SEE MR. SPEARMAN'S POINT OR THAT ASPECT, I DON'T
02:20:44 HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR THIS WORK AND WE HAVE THESE OTHER
02:20:47 FOLKS.
02:20:47 WE JUST CAN'T DO IT ALL.
02:20:50 BUT I SEE YOUR POINT, WHICH IS RIGHT.
02:20:53 OKAY, WELL, WE CAN DO IT, SO I GET THAT SO IT'S KIND OF
02:20:58 LIKE A POINT ON EACH EAR, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAS
02:21:04 HAPPENED, WHAT I CAN SEE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE
02:21:07 MANPOWER, THE WOMANPOWER TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND I
02:21:12 DON'T WANT TO PICK ON HOUSING BUT HOUSING IS A BIG THING
02:21:14 RIGHT NOW, AND CAN'T GET THAT WORK OUT AND GET THINGS
02:21:17 DONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, AND I DID
02:21:20 TALK TO DENNIS, AND WE HAVE TO DO SOME OUTSOURCING AS
02:21:27 WELL.
02:21:27 BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. SPEARMAN IS SAYING.
02:21:30 BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE, I KNOW.
02:21:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID,
02:21:33 MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:21:34 I JUST DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIRING MORE
02:21:36 PEOPLE AND WHAT THE JOC IS GETTING FOR THEIR BENEFIT OF
02:21:40 DOING THE JOB.
02:21:41 I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS. I DON'T KNOW IF JOC IS REALLY
02:21:43 1%, 100% OF SOMETHING, AND WHAT HE PLACED TO HIRING
02:21:47 PEOPLE FOR THAT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
02:21:49 I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION.
02:21:50 THANK YOU.
02:21:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOT YOU.
02:21:54 ANYONE ELSE?
02:21:55 >>OCEA WYNN: THAT'S ALL I HAVE, COUNCIL.
02:21:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, WHAT I CAN SAY IS THIS.
02:22:03 SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE NOT HERE BUT I AM GLAD THE
02:22:05 ADMINISTRATION PUT UP THE EFFORTS TO MOVE THE BALL.
02:22:08 WE KNOW IT HAD TO BE MOVED.
02:22:11 WE DID WHAT WE HAD TO DO.
02:22:13 BUT BECAUSE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT BECAUSE PREVIOUS
02:22:17 THINGS GONE ON, AND IT'S ALWAYS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT.
02:22:22 WE CAN'T HAVE THAT THINKING AROUND HERE ANYMORE.
02:22:24 BECAUSE TIME CHANGES EVERY DAY.
02:22:26 DOESN'T SIT STILL.
02:22:27 SO I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE MOVING THE BALL.
02:22:29 BUT BY STAYING STILL WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE
02:22:33 ADMINISTRATORS UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEW DAY IS A POSITIVE,
02:22:37 THAT WE HAVE TO GET THINGS MOVING FOR BLACKS, HISPANICS,
02:22:41 EVERYBODY, AND EVERYBODY IS MAKING A LITTLE BECAUSE
02:22:47 EVERYONE IS HUNGRY.
02:22:48 SO I AM GLAD THE EFFORTS, BUT AGAIN I AM HOPING -- I WANT
02:22:53 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING, A PILOT, HAVE
02:22:57 SOMETHING THAT WE HOLD THOSE OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE THESE
02:23:01 CONTRACTS, AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF, TO MAKE
02:23:04 SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING THE BALL, AND HOLD THOSE FOLKS
02:23:11 ACCOUNTABLE.
02:23:11 I CAN SAY IT IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES WHEN SOME OF THESE
02:23:13 JOBS THAT WE TRY TO FIND FOLKS TO DO THOSE JOBS WHEN WE
02:23:16 DON'T HAVE THEM TO DO.
02:23:18 I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
02:23:19 AND I DO UNDERSTAND I HEAR MANY NAMES AND NUMBERS OF MR.
02:23:23 SPEARMAN AND MR. HART.
02:23:25 AND I GET UPSET.
02:23:27 AND THAT UPSETS ME TREMENDOUSLY SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT
02:23:33 AS WELL.
02:23:33 BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
02:23:35 LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER BIG SHOW AND SEE WHERE THAT BALL
02:23:39 IS AS WELL.
02:23:40 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
02:23:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
02:23:43 THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
02:23:45 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, AS WELL.
02:23:48 WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
02:23:52 MR. DINGFELDER IS NOT HERE.
02:24:08 WHO HAS ITEM NUMBER 10?
02:24:15 ALL RIGHT, CATE.
02:24:22 >>CATE WELLS: GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:24:25 >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH
02:24:29 MANAGEMENT.
02:24:30 WE ARE HERE TODAY ON ITEM NUMBER 10 AND 11.
02:24:34 WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS.
02:24:36 THEY ARE RELATED TO CHAPTER 27 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
02:24:39 CODE.
02:24:40 AND WE PACKAGED THEM FOR YOU TODAY IN A SINGULAR
02:24:44 PRESENTATION.
02:24:48 EXCEPT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS NOT HERE.
02:24:52 WE DO HAVE THE PRESENTATION.
02:25:01 ALSO LACHONE DOCK JOINED ME IN MY OFFICE AS WELL.
02:25:06 SO SHE IS WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON.
02:25:07 SHE'S GOING TO COVER A COUPLE OF THE SLIDES FOR YOU.
02:25:11 AS WELL AS MYSELF.
02:25:14 SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:25:18 AS I MENTIONED, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS MADE IN
02:25:22 RELATION TO THE POTENTIAL FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS TO GO TO A
02:25:27 QUARTERLY CYCLE, AND ALSO THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT
02:25:32 CAME FROM A FEW MONTHS AGO ON THE POTENTIAL FOR
02:25:35 ADMINISTRATIVE -- SO DISCUSSION OF 5%.
02:25:40 WE WORKSHOPPED THAT, CAME BACK WITH YOU, ASKED FOR SOME
02:25:44 ADDITIONAL TIME ON THAT, AND WE WANTED TO RESEARCH
02:25:46 WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE, IF THAT WAS
02:25:48 CONSIDERED, AND WE ARE BACK BEFORE YOU TODAY ON THOSE TWO
02:25:52 ITEMS.
02:25:54 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:25:55 OUR WORKSHOP GOALS TODAY WITH YOU, COUNCIL, IS TO DISCUSS
02:26:01 THE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
02:26:03 WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THE
02:26:07 PROCESSING OF TEXT AMENDMENTS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
02:26:10 WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU CHANGES TO THE
02:26:15 PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT REFLECT SOME OF
02:26:19 YOUR MORE RECENT DIRECTIVES INCLUDING HAVING PUBLIC
02:26:24 INFORMATION SESSIONS, AND DOING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO
02:26:29 LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE KIND OF COME UP WITH AS WE HAVE
02:26:33 RESEARCHED THIS ITEM.
02:26:34 SO THIS WOULD BE OUR TWO GOALS IN RELATION TO TEXT
02:26:38 AMENDMENTS.
02:26:38 AND THEN IN THE LAST BULLET, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
02:26:42 PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT TODAY, AND
02:26:45 DISCUSS SOME CRITERIA AND THE ASSOCIATED PROCESS UNDER
02:26:50 WHICH THOSE LOT SPLITS WOULD BE HANDLED.
02:26:53 SO TO LEAD OFF ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
02:26:56 IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SULING, PLEASE.
02:26:59 ONE MORE.
02:27:02 I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LACHONE TO GIVE YOU SOME
02:27:05 BACKGROUND, AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE RESEARCH SHE
02:27:09 CONDUCTED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
02:27:11 >>LACHONE DOCK: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
02:27:15 LACHONE DOCK WITH DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
02:27:19 COUNCIL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST GIVE YOU A
02:27:22 LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND REGARDING OUR CURRENT PROCESS
02:27:25 FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS PROCESSING.
02:27:28 ONE IS CURRENTLY THE APPLICATIONS OF OUR PROCESS TWICE A
02:27:34 YEAR.
02:27:35 SO THIS IS IN JANUARY AND IN JULY.
02:27:38 THIS WOULD INCLUDE BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATELY
02:27:40 INITIATED AMENDMENTS.
02:27:43 BY THE PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT, THOSE ARE THE
02:27:45 AMENDMENTS THAT ARE EITHER DIRECTED BY CITY COUNCIL, OR
02:27:50 EITHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE THROUGH THE PLANNING MANAGER
02:27:54 OR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
02:27:55 THESE CYCLES IS APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS LONG.
02:27:59 SO THERE'S AN APPROXIMATE TIME FRAME.
02:28:07 BASED ON THE REQUEST THAT TIME FRAME CAN VARY.
02:28:09 EACH CYCLE CAN CONTAIN BOTH PUBLICLY INITIATED AND
02:28:14 PRIVATELY INITIATED CHANGES.
02:28:19 JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT THE PRIVATELY INITIATED CHANGES,
02:28:22 THEY ARE A COMMON PRACTICE IN MANY JURISDICTIONS.
02:28:26 NO COUPLE OF SLIDES I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT
02:28:28 COMPARISON.
02:28:32 AND PROCESSING NEEDS THAT STAFF CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE
02:28:36 CODE WRITER, CURRENTLY COORDINATES, CONDUCTS PUBLIC
02:28:40 OUTREACH.
02:28:41 THERE IS REALLY NO FORMALIZED PROCESS FOR PROCESSING THE
02:28:45 TEXT AMENDMENTS.
02:28:47 CURRENTLY ONE STAFF MEMBER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING
02:28:51 THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS, AND IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER
02:28:55 DUTIES IN ADDITION TO THAT.
02:28:58 NO FORMAL APPLICATION CURRENTLY EXISTS.
02:29:02 SO PARAMETERS FOR PROCESSING, THERE ARE NO LIMITATIONS ON
02:29:07 THE SCOPE OF THE REQUEST.
02:29:09 THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE IN
02:29:11 OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY.
02:29:13 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:29:18 SO THIS IS A COMPARISON OF JURISDICTIONS.
02:29:23 WE HAVE TAKEN DATA FROM FOUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
02:29:26 SO WHAT WE USED WAS AN EARTH TONE, YOU SEE THE CITY OF
02:29:31 TAMPA, SO THAT'S OUR PROCESS.
02:29:33 THE FIRST THING WE LOOKED AT WAS WHETHER OR NOT PRIVATELY
02:29:38 INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS WERE ALLOWED IN THESE OTHER
02:29:41 JURISDICTIONS.
02:29:42 YOU CAN SEE BY LOOKING AT PROCESS THAT THESE OTHER
02:29:47 JURISDICTIONS, MADEIRA BEACH, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY
02:29:51 OF ST. PETE, THEY ALL ALLOW PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
02:29:54 AMENDMENTS.
02:29:55 THE CITY OF ORLANDO WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID NOT ALLOW.
02:30:00 THE CITY OF ORLANDO IS A LITTLE GIVE IN THAT THEY ONLY
02:30:02 PROCESS AMENDMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR OR
02:30:05 THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION.
02:30:09 THE NEXT SET OF DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR YOU IS THE
02:30:11 FEE.
02:30:12 SO YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE BOARD, THE ENTITIES THAT
02:30:18 PROCESS PRIVATELY INITIATED, WE ARE THE LOWEST FEE, WHICH
02:30:24 IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON
02:30:26 ALSO.
02:30:26 ALSO, THE PRESUBMITTAL MEETING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR ALL OF
02:30:30 THOSE, ALL JURISDICTIONS, THE NEXT ONE THAT WE RECEIVE
02:30:35 THE DATA ON WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED
02:30:39 TO DO PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHETHER PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL OR
02:30:44 AFTER THE TIME THEY SUBMIT THEIR REQUEST, FOR PRIVATELY
02:30:48 INITIATED AMENDMENT.
02:30:49 YOU CAN SEE THAT CURRENTLY WE DO NOT REQUIRE THE
02:30:52 APPLICANT, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT IS CONDUCTED BY CITY
02:30:57 STAFF.
02:30:57 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT MADEIRA BEACH, CITY OF
02:31:01 ST. PETERSBURG, THEY DO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO DO THAT
02:31:03 PUBLIC OUTREACH, AND SPEAKING TO BOTH OF THOSE
02:31:06 JURISDICTIONS, IT IS REQUIRED BEFORE THEY EVEN SUBMIT.
02:31:11 THIS WAY THE PUBLIC IS MADE AWARE OF WHAT IS COMING, WHAT
02:31:15 WOULD BE SUBMITTED, AND THEY ALREADY HAD DISCUSSION WAS
02:31:19 THE PUBLIC PRIOR TO.
02:31:22 THE LAST ROW THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THIS CHART IS WHETHER
02:31:25 OR NOT ADDITIONAL FEES WERE ASSESSED.
02:31:27 THIS IS TO SHOW YOU, COUNCIL, THAT THE FEES WERE CHARGED
02:31:32 BY THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
02:31:35 THEY ALSO CHARGE ADDITIONAL FEES ON TOP OF THAT FOR
02:31:38 ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
02:31:40 BE SO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:31:48 SO FOR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE FIRST THING IS, WE WOULD LIKE
02:31:53 TO DISTINGUISH AND SEPARATE THE PRIVATELY INITIATED
02:31:56 AMENDMENT FROM THE STAFF OF COUNCIL-INITIATED AMENDMENTS,
02:32:00 FROM THOSE PUBLICLY-INITIATED REQUESTS.
02:32:03 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE NEW SCHEDULE.
02:32:07 FOR PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS, ONE OF OUR
02:32:10 RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE TO REVISE OUR FEE SCHEDULE,
02:32:14 CLARIFY THE APPLICANT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT,
02:32:18 REQUIRE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS FOR THE APPLICANT,
02:32:22 AND REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENTATION.
02:32:27 AT THE TIME THE CITY STAFF PRESENTS THE PLANNING
02:32:29 COMMISSION AT BOTH THEIR BRIEFING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND
02:32:33 WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON THE APPLICANT
02:32:35 SINCE IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED REQUEST.
02:32:38 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:32:43 SO IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONTINUING WITH THE
02:32:46 RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE
02:32:49 NEXT AMENDMENT SCHEDULE.
02:32:51 SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WE HAVE TWO CYCLES FOR PRIVATE
02:32:55 AMENDMENTS, AND TWO CYCLES OF PUBLICLY INITIATED
02:33:01 AMENDMENT, PUBLICLY INITIATED AND CLEAN-UP ITEMS.
02:33:05 JANUARY 15 AND JULY 15 FOR PRIVATELY.
02:33:08 FOR THE PUBLICLY INITIATED, APRIL 15th AND OCTOBER
02:33:12 15th CYCLE.
02:33:13 SO THAT GIVES THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC CYCLES TWICE A YEAR.
02:33:22 >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND IF I CAN, THIS REALLY CAME ABOUT AS
02:33:28 WE -- COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAD MADE THE MOTION AND THEN
02:33:31 WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE WERE PROCESSING THINGS, HOW
02:33:34 OTHER JURISDICTIONS WERE PROCESSING THESE TYPES OF
02:33:37 AMENDMENTS, AND THEN ALSO THE OVERALL WORK FLOW, AS WELL
02:33:42 AS SOME OF THE INTERACTION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH COUNCIL
02:33:46 LATELY WHERE THERE WAS A RECENT CYCLE THAT WAS A
02:33:49 PRIVATELY INITIATED CYCLE, THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION
02:33:55 AS TO WHOSE CYCLE WAS THAT?
02:33:57 I THINK WHAT THIS RECOMMENDATION REALLY WOULD DO IS ALLOW
02:34:00 US TO HAVE THOSE PRIVATELY INITIATED IN THE ESTABLISHED
02:34:04 CYCLE AND THEN DEDICATED TIME FOR US TO BE EXAMINING THE
02:34:08 PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENTS THAT ARE EITHER COMING OUT
02:34:11 OF COUNCIL MOTIONS OR COMING OUT OF INITIATIVES, THINGS
02:34:20 WE ARE LOOKING AT TO MOVE THE ORGANIZATION FORWARD, OR
02:34:23 GENERAL CODE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR
02:34:26 SOME TIME.
02:34:27 BUT THAT WOULD REALLY GIVE US THOSE ORGANIZED DISCUSSIONS
02:34:30 AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DO THE PLANNING AND LEG
02:34:34 WORK THAT GOES BEHIND PUTTING THOSE AMENDMENT TOGETHER.
02:34:37 IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:34:46 WHAT WE DID IN THIS SLIDE, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS THE
02:34:49 DIFFERENCE TO ACTUALLY PROCESSING THE PLANNED AMENDMENTS
02:34:54 FOR OUTSIDE TEXT AMENDMENTS AND HOW, IF THEY ARE DONE ON
02:34:59 A QUARTERLY BASIS, MANY OF THOSE EFFORTS ARE GOING TO
02:35:02 OVERLAP.
02:35:03 AS LACHONE MENTIONED TO YOU, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE
02:35:08 DEDICATED IN THE PROCESSING OF THOSE TEXT AMENDMENTS,
02:35:12 THAT IS LACHONE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE EFFORTS DO
02:35:21 OVERLAP AND THAT'S WHEREIN WE WERE SAYING, IF WE CAN
02:35:24 CREATE TWO DEDICATED CYCLES, PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
02:35:29 AMENDMENTS AND TWO FOR THE PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT
02:35:32 AMENDMENT THAT WOULD REALLY GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
02:35:34 THE PLANNING, DO THE FOCUS, DO THE OUTREACH.
02:35:37 THAT IS ONE STEP THAT WE HAVE GONE AHEAD AND PUT INTO
02:35:41 THIS TODAY TO SHOW YOU, I THINK SINCE THE LAST TIME WE
02:35:47 SAW YOU, WE DID GO AHEAD AND SET UP A PUBLIC INFORMATION
02:35:50 SESSION FOR JUNE 7th.
02:35:52 WE ARE CONDUCTING COMING UP.
02:35:54 AND THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, THAT'S GOING TO
02:36:01 PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE WORKSHOP THAT WAS JUST BEFORE
02:36:05 YOU.
02:36:06 THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WORKSHOP THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, THE
02:36:11 WORKSHOP THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND THEN THE PRIVATELY
02:36:13 INITIATED CYCLE FROM MR. MICHELINI AND MR. BERM THAT WE
02:36:21 TRADE TO BRING YOU BEFORE YOU A MONTH AGO AND YOUR
02:36:26 REQUEST WAS TO PLEASE CONDUCT THE PUBLIC INFORMATION
02:36:28 SESSION.
02:36:28 SO WE HAVE NOW SET THIS UP.
02:36:29 AND THIS TIMELINE NOW REFLECTS THE INTEGRATION OF THOSE
02:36:33 ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WE ARE LAG TO HAVE MOVING FORWARD.
02:36:41 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:36:43 SO AS LACHONE MENTIONED FOR THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
02:36:50 AMENDMENT, AND AGAIN THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE
02:36:54 BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND LIKE THE WORKSHOP WE WOULD LIKE TO
02:36:58 GET THE FEEDBACK ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
02:37:00 WE WOULD PUT THAT FEEDBACK INTO THE INFORMATION SESSION
02:37:05 AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST TO BRING YOU
02:37:08 THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THESE ASSOCIATED RECOMMENDATIONS
02:37:12 WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPOSAL.
02:37:16 SO THE FIRST IS UPDATE OF THE FEE SCHEDULE.
02:37:19 AS YOU SAW OUR FEE SCHEDULE IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN
02:37:22 OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
02:37:23 IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU PAY ONE FEE WHETHER YOU ARE
02:37:28 RECOMMENDING ONE CHANGE OR YOU ARE YOU ARE RECOMMENDING
02:37:30 THE ENTIRE CHAPTER CHANGE.
02:37:32 SO WE WOULD RESEARCH AND PROVIDE BACK TO YOU A TIERED
02:37:36 SYSTEM THAT WOULD LOOK TO CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT
02:37:41 LEVELS OF THE APPLICATIONS AND REQUESTS COMING IN.
02:37:44 THE SECOND WOULD BE TO CLARIFY THE APPLICATION
02:37:49 REQUIREMENTS.
02:37:51 RIGHT NOW AN APPLICATION CAN COME IN AND SAY, I WANT TO
02:37:55 CHANGE TEXT BUT WON'T WRITE THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF WHAT'S
02:37:58 BEING REQUESTED.
02:38:00 SO STAFF IS ACTUALLY SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW,
02:38:06 AND TAKING AN APPLICANT'S IDEA AND THEN PUTTING IN THE
02:38:11 TEXT SO WE WOULD ASK THAT THE APPLICATION BE CHANGED TO
02:38:13 EXCLUDE THE EXACT TEXT THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR, A
02:38:19 WRITTEN JUSTIFICATION AND EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ASSOCIATED
02:38:21 WITH THAT, AND THEN WHAT CODE SECTIONS ARE BEING IMPACTED
02:38:24 BY THAT PROPOSED MODIFICATION.
02:38:26 SO IF YOU ARE MAKING, FOR EXAMPLE, A PARKING CHANGE TO
02:38:32 STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, YOUR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL
02:38:34 PARKING IS FIVE DIFFERENT TABLES OF THE CODE SO THEY
02:38:37 WOULD NEED TO BE SHOWING US ALL CHANGES, AND RIGHT NOW
02:38:41 THAT ONUS SITS ON STAFF TO FIND THOSE CHANGES AND MAKE
02:38:45 THEM THROUGHOUT.
02:38:46 AND WE STILL WOULD BE DOING THAT.
02:38:48 WE WOULD JUST BE DOING THAT MORE FROM THE REVIEW AND
02:38:51 IMPLEMENTATION STAGE THAN THE ACTUAL GENERATING THOSE
02:38:56 MODIFICATIONS.
02:38:57 THE THIRD WOULD BE TO REQUIRE A MUST BE INFORMATION
02:39:00 OUTREACH BY THE APPLICANT.
02:39:03 IN SOME JURISDICTIONS, PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION, AS
02:39:08 LACHONE DISCUSSED, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE
02:39:12 REQUESTING AS WELL, SUGGESTS AS WELL, THAT WE HAVE A
02:39:16 PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION, THE PRIVATE APPLICANT WOULD
02:39:19 HOLD THAT.
02:39:20 THE APPLICANT, RATE NOW IT'S KIND OF AN ODYSSEY BECAUSE
02:39:23 IT APPEARS THAT STAFF IS SITTING IN AN ADVOCACY ROLE FOR
02:39:27 THE APPLICANT STAFF AMENDMENT BUT WE ARE NOT THE ONES
02:39:29 THAT GENERATED THAT AMENDMENT.
02:39:30 SO WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS
02:39:33 WELL.
02:39:34 STAFF WOULD EVALUATE THE AMENDMENT AND MAKE A
02:39:37 RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT
02:39:44 AMENDMENT BUT LIGHT RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR HOW
02:39:48 THAT IS BEING DONE AND UNDER WHAT CONTEXT.
02:39:50 SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT CLARIFIED AS WELL.
02:39:53 LASTLY,
02:39:55 WOULD BE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT, PRESENT THE AMENDMENT AT
02:40:01 THE PLANNING COMMISSION BRIEFING AND HEARING.
02:40:04 SO THAT WOULD BE THE FOURTH RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD GO
02:40:08 ALONG WITH THE PRIVATE INITIATED AMENDMENT.
02:40:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION,
02:40:16 ABBEY?
02:40:18 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS THE END OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT
02:40:20 PRESENTATION, YES.
02:40:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCIL.
02:40:26 MR. DINGFELDER, AND MR. MANISCALCO SECOND.
02:40:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:40:31 THANK YOU, LADIES.
02:40:34 SO GOING BACK TO THE CORE ISSUE ABOUT PRIVATELY INITIATED
02:40:39 AMENDMENTS, SO IF I AM JOE CITIZEN OR JOSEPHINE CITIZEN,
02:40:51 OR MAYBE I'M A T.H.A.N., THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, OR
02:40:56 MAYBE I'M CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A VERY INVOLVED
02:41:01 NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON, AND I HAVE GOT A GOOD IDEA ABOUT A
02:41:05 CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENT, WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS AS THAT TYPE OF
02:41:12 PERSON?
02:41:13 WELL, MY EXPERIENCE TELLS ME THE OPTIONS, OR THE WAY THEY
02:41:18 GO ABOUT, IS THEY CONTACT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIAL, US, AND
02:41:23 THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS PART OF
02:41:26 CHAPTER 7, 27, NEEDS CHANGING.
02:41:28 AND THEY COME TO THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, OR MAYBE
02:41:32 THEY MENTION IT TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE AT ONE
02:41:36 OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
02:41:38 AND THEN HE INVOLVES LIKE THAT.
02:41:41 I KIND OF EQUATE IT TO TALLAHASSEE, OR WASHINGTON.
02:41:46 IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA THAT YOU THINK IS GREAT, YOU ARE NOT
02:41:49 ALLOWED TO WALK INTO TALLAHASSEE TO THE CAPITOL BUILDING
02:41:52 AND PUT IT ON THE FLOOR AS YOUR BILL PRIVATELY INITIATED
02:41:56 BILL.
02:41:57 YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ONE OF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES.
02:41:59 WELL OR MAYBE A STAFF PERSON AND GET MOMENTUM THAT WAY.
02:42:03 I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY WEIRD THAT IF YOU
02:42:06 HAVE GOT THE MONEY, OKAY, AND YOU HAVE GOT LAWYERS, OR
02:42:09 EXPERTS, THAT YOU CAN JUST WALK INTO CITY COUNCIL, WITH
02:42:14 GREAT MOMENTUM, WITH A CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENT.
02:42:17 AND YOU HAVE A TOTALLY UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD WITH JOE
02:42:21 CITIZEN, OR JOSEPHINE CITIZEN, OR T.H.A.N., OR
02:42:24 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OR CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
02:42:27 I JUST THINK THAT'S WEIRD.
02:42:29 AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S WRONG.
02:42:30 I THINK MR. SHELBY, YOU WERE DOING A LITTLE MORE
02:42:34 ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, AND ABBEY, I APPRECIATE YOU AND
02:42:37 LACHONE SHOWED US FOUR OR FIVE JURISDICTIONS, BUT MR.
02:42:41 SHELBY, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, YOU WERE DOING A LITTLE
02:42:43 MORE RESEARCH IN TERMS OF LOOKING ALL ACROSS THE STATE TO
02:42:46 SEE HOW PREVALENT THIS IS AND THAT SORT OF THING?
02:42:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. DINGFELDER.
02:42:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
02:42:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:42:55 THANK YOU.
02:42:56 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
02:42:57 YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:42:59 I HAD ASKED TO BE CONTINUED THE LAST MEETING AND IT IS
02:43:03 SCHEDULED TO COME BACK ON THE 24th AT YOUR WORKSHOP
02:43:06 ON JUNE 24th.
02:43:08 AND, YES, THE SCOPE OF MY RESEARCH IS BROADER, MORE
02:43:16 POPULATION BASED THROUGHOUT THE STATE, PERHAPS EVEN
02:43:20 FOCUSING ON STRONG MAYOR FORMS OF GOVERNMENTS AND ALSO
02:43:25 INCLUDING THE PROCESS OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT
02:43:28 AMENDMENTS AS WELL.
02:43:29 SO THIS IS SOLELY FOR CHAPTER 27 TODAY.
02:43:32 SO I WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU ON THE 24th WITH SOME
02:43:37 MORE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE OF VALUE TO YOU.
02:43:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
02:43:40 I THINK THAT INFORMATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND WE
02:43:43 PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE THIS VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT MS.
02:43:47 FEELEY AND MS. DOCK HAVE BROUGHT TO US AND DEFER IT OVER
02:43:51 UNTIL MR. SHELBY GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF HIS RESEARCH ON
02:43:54 THAT.
02:43:55 BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING FROM ORIGINALLY, THAT I
02:43:59 JUST QUESTION THE EXISTENCE OF THIS PRIVATELY INITIATED,
02:44:02 BECAUSE I THINK I FEEL THE PLAYING FIELD IS UNEVEN IN
02:44:08 TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND
02:44:10 DOLLARS, DO THIS, AND THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH
02:44:12 THE TYPICAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN APPROACHING US.
02:44:20 ABBEY, YOU MENTIONED ON THE PENDING -- MR. MICHELINI AND
02:44:26 MR. LUM'S PENDING PROPOSALS, THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION
02:44:30 SESSION IS IN JUNE?
02:44:34 >>ABBYE FEELEY: JUNE 7th AT 6:00 P.M.
02:44:36 AND WE HAVE SENT OUT NOTICE.
02:44:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE A LOCATION OR IS IT ZOOM OR
02:44:41 WHAT?
02:44:43 >>ABBYE FEELEY: VIRTUAL.
02:44:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S VIRTUAL.
02:44:45 OKAY.
02:44:45 >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IN PERSON BUT
02:44:50 WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS VIRTUAL.
02:44:52 WE HAVE SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO OUR MAIL LIST FOR THE
02:44:57 TAMPA -- WE ALSO POSTED WITH THE CITY CLERK, AND THEN WE
02:45:02 HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE.
02:45:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT MARAI CAN
02:45:10 CIRCULATE TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS WELL.
02:45:13 MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.
02:45:15 IN REGARD TO THE PUBLIC, QUOTE, PUBLICLY INITIATED
02:45:19 AMENDMENT, WHICH BASICALLY I THINK IS JUST
02:45:22 COUNCIL-INITIATED AMENDMENTS, ALTHOUGH IT APPEARS THAT
02:45:25 YOU HAVE ADDED THE MAYOR OR ADMINISTRATION'S INITIATED
02:45:30 AMENDMENTS, AND THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU ARE CALLING
02:45:32 PUBLIC, RIGHT, ABBEY?
02:45:34 >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
02:45:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TRADITIONALLY FOR SOME REASON,
02:45:39 COUNCIL IN THE PAST LIMITED OURSELVES TO TWICE A YEAR.
02:45:45 AND I BROUGHT THIS UP, WHO KNOWS, A YEAR AGO, AND I SAID,
02:45:50 WHY ARE WE LIMITING OURSELVES TO TWICE A YEAR?
02:45:53 BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE A PRESSING ISSUE THAT WE
02:45:57 WANT TO MOVE ON MORE RAPIDLY.
02:45:58 I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST DO IT
02:46:01 WILLY-NILLY 52 WEEKS A YEAR AND THROB THAT AT YOU.
02:46:06 BUT WHAT I SAID BEFORE, AND I AM GOING TO REPEAT IT AGAIN
02:46:09 TODAY, IS IT APPEARS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION STILL SAYS
02:46:12 THAT WE SHOULD BE LIMITED TO TWICE A YEAR IN TERMS OF
02:46:15 THAT CYCLE.
02:46:16 I WOULD SAY THAT IF THERE'S FOUR POTENTIAL CYCLES GOING
02:46:20 ON THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER QUARTERLY AT ANY GIVEN
02:46:24 TIME IN THAT QUARTER.
02:46:26 AND THAT WOULD BE OUR LEGISLATIVE DECISION TO MAKE THAT
02:46:29 CHANGE.
02:46:31 AND AGAIN, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE WANT TO HAVE OUR
02:46:36 HANDS TIED.
02:46:38 WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO STAFF AND TO YOUR
02:46:41 TIME.
02:46:41 BUT IF YOU ARE LAYING OUT A QUARTERLY SCHEDULE, I THINK
02:46:44 WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP IN AT ANY ONE OF THOSE
02:46:47 QUARTERS.
02:46:48 SO I AM THROWING THAT OUT THERE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR
02:46:51 DISCUSSION.
02:46:53 BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING FROM A YEAR AGO WHEN I
02:46:56 BROUGHT THIS UP.
02:46:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO?
02:47:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST BRIEFLY ON THE FEE, WHICH IS
02:47:07 BEING ADDRESSED.
02:47:07 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEES ARE GOING TO BE.
02:47:09 I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO US.
02:47:11 BUT I CALCULATED THAT WE ARE 45% OF THE NEXT CHEAPEST,
02:47:16 WHICH IS 666 AND 50 CENTS COMPARED TO HILLSBOROUGH WHICH
02:47:21 IS 1495.
02:47:23 I THINK SOMEONE PAYS A THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO PUT AN
02:47:25 APPLICATION TO VACATE AN ALLEY.
02:47:27 YET SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE, WHATEVER IT IS, BIG OR
02:47:30 SMALL, THEY ARE ONLY GETTING IT FOR $666.
02:47:33 I MEAN IT'S NOT EVEN COMPETITIVE.
02:47:35 WE ARE GIVING OF THE AWAY.
02:47:36 AND THERE'S A LOSS OF REVENUE THERE.
02:47:39 AND JUST THE NUMBER 666!
02:47:42 I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I AM GLAD WE ARE CHANGING THAT,
02:47:45 666 AND 13 CENTS AT THIS POINT.
02:47:50 BUT YOU ARE ALREADY ADDRESSING IT.
02:47:52 I MEAN, EVEN IF IT BECOMES $1,000 OR IF IT'S TIERED
02:47:57 STRUCTURED DEPENDING ON WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS APPLYING
02:47:59 FOR, WE HAVE LOST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY I THINK
02:48:04 OVER THE YEARS SO I AM GLAD YOU ARE BRINGING THAT UP.
02:48:06 AND I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER WAS JUST
02:48:08 SAYING, HE TOUCHED ON QUITE A FEW ISSUES.
02:48:11 AND THOSE ARE MY ONLY CONCERNS.
02:48:13 THANK YOU.
02:48:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
02:48:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
02:48:17 I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S 666, 50 IS BETTER THAN 666.66.
02:48:24 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, SIR.
02:48:26 AND I AM LOOKING AT WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID AND I AGREE
02:48:29 WITH HIM PARTLY, AND THE PUBLIC INITIATED MOTION TO BRING
02:48:35 SOMETHING UP COULD VERY WELL THE SAME ONES THAT THE
02:48:38 COUNCIL BRINGS IN WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES TO SEE THE SEVEN
02:48:40 ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE MAYOR EIGHT, THEY MAY BE
02:48:43 SOMETHING THAT WE BRING IT UP AS PART OF THE GENERAL
02:48:47 DUTIES THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
02:48:49 SO NOW IF THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL POLICYHOLDER, A PUBLIC
02:48:55 OWNER OF A LAND THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, HE OR SHE CAN
02:48:58 DO IT AND PAY THE FEE.
02:48:59 BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN GENERAL THAT WOULD CHANGE FOR
02:49:02 THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE CITIZENS, THEN I THINK THAT THE
02:49:06 COUNCIL GETTING THE LETTERS, GETTING THE INFORMATION,
02:49:09 HAVING THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE GENERAL
02:49:11 PUBLIC, IN GENERAL, OR LIKELY ONE OF THE COUNCIL REQUESTS
02:49:16 OR ONE OF THE MAYOR REQUESTS TO GO THROUGH, I CAN SEE
02:49:19 WHERE THEY CAN GET IT DONE FOR MUCH LESS THAN 666.50 AS
02:49:25 THEY HAVE, CONTACT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
02:49:30 SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THEM NOT HAVING THE ABILITY, BUT
02:49:32 I THINK THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY IF THEY WORK THE SYSTEM.
02:49:35 THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
02:49:36 SO I THINK TO ME IT'S THE SYSTEM THERE.
02:49:39 WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT $666.50 AND I LOOKED AT THE
02:49:43 COMPARABLE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AT 1450, OTHER THAN 2,000,
02:49:48 OTHERS AT 2200, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED
02:49:52 THERE, AND MS. FEELEY AND MRS. DOCK, LOOKING AT COSTS.
02:49:57 MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE US AT THE REVIEW OF COSTS WHAT IT
02:50:00 REALLY COSTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOURS THAT YOU ALL
02:50:03 PUT IN AND IT'S NOT ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, IT'S COUNTLESS
02:50:06 PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR THE GENERAL
02:50:08 TAXPAYERS THAT ARE USING THAT FUND TO FUND THE PROJECT,
02:50:12 TO AIR IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
02:50:14 THERE'S GOT TO BE A CONCERTED EFFORT AS FAR AS THE REAL
02:50:17 COSTS, AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY
02:50:21 COSTS.
02:50:21 I AM NOT AGAINST RAISING FEES OR LOWERING FEES DEPENDING
02:50:24 ON THE NEEDS OF SOCIETY.
02:50:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:50:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
02:50:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THE
02:50:30 SETTING OF FEES WAS RAISED INITIALLY BY MR. MANISCALCO,
02:50:34 IN THE SENSE THAT HE MENTIONED IT WOULD BE COMING BACK TO
02:50:37 COUNCIL. I WANT TO CLARIFY THE PROCESS OF SETTING FEES
02:50:39 IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.
02:50:40 ABBEY -- WILL IT BE COMING BACK TO THEN, THE SETTING OF
02:50:45 FEES?
02:50:45 >> THEY HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.
02:50:54 DO YOU HAVE IT?
02:50:55 THAT'S PROBABLY HOW IT GOT TO 666, BECAUSE OF THE ONE
02:50:59 PERCENTAGE INCREASE YEARS AGO.
02:51:01 >> IT IS SET BY RESOLUTION.
02:51:08 I WANT TO COME BACK FIRST WITH WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
02:51:10 RECOMMEND.
02:51:10 I JUST WANTED TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS WITH YOU TODAY WHETHER
02:51:13 OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE, OR BE SUPPORTED
02:51:18 TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BE ONE
02:51:21 OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN EVALUATING THE ENTIRE -- THE
02:51:26 PROCESS WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
02:51:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. DINGFELDER.
02:51:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:51:38 MR. MIRANDA, I JUST WANT TO MENTION ONE THING.
02:51:40 I APPRECIATE YOUR KIND WORDS EARLIER.
02:51:44 WHEN THE PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENTS COME IN TO US
02:51:48 LIKE THE ONE THAT MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM HAVE PENDING,
02:51:52 THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO ONE PARCEL.
02:51:55 THEY ARE AMENDING THE ENTIRE CODE AS RELATED TO ALL THE
02:52:00 PUBLIC, AS YOU STATED.
02:52:02 SO OFTEN -- AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE KIND OF
02:52:07 SLOWED THEM DOWN AND SAID, WAIT A SECOND, YOU NEED TO GO
02:52:11 TALK TO THE PUBLIC AND THIS NEEDS TO BE VETTED MUCH MORE,
02:52:15 BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, IT'S NOT LIKE A SMALL
02:52:21 NOUN COMP PLAN AMENDMENT OR REZONING THAT JUST APPLIES TO
02:52:25 ONE PARCEL.
02:52:25 WHEN THEY DO THESE CHAPTER 27 AMENDMENTS, THEY IMPACT
02:52:29 EVERYBODY.
02:52:29 AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD CONCEPT IS
02:52:33 REALLY FAIR.
02:52:33 AND FRANKLY, I THINK WE SHOULD ELIMINATE PRIVATELY
02:52:37 INITIATED AMENDMENTS AND LET EVERYBODY USE THE PUBLIC
02:52:39 PROCESS, WHICH IS THROUGH US, AND THROUGH STAFF, OR
02:52:43 THROUGH THE MAYOR, OR JUST COME IN THROUGH THE NORMAL
02:52:49 CHANNELS INSTEAD OF PAY TO PLAY.
02:52:52 THANK YOU.
02:52:52 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:53:02 I WASN'T USING ANY NAMES.
02:53:03 I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A HASSLE LATER ON IN LIFE.
02:53:08 IF SOMETHING THAT I SAID OR DIDN'T SAY.
02:53:09 THAT'S WHY I USED THE TERM THAT I DID.
02:53:11 AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAID THAT.
02:53:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
02:53:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS ON BOTH OF THESE ISSUES,
02:53:20 SINCE MR. SHELBY HAS A LITTLE MORE WORK TO COME BACK
02:53:22 PROBABLY LIKE TO BRING IT BACK.
02:53:24 IS THAT THE NEXT WORKSHOP, MR. SHELBY?
02:53:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S WHAT IT'S SET FOR, COUNCIL.
02:53:29 AGAIN MY APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY.
02:53:31 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:53:33 BUT YES, THIS IS COMING BACK.
02:53:36 WHAT YOU HAD ASKED OF ME IS COMING BACK ON THE 24th
02:53:38 OR JUNE WORKSHOP.
02:53:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:53:41 SO IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I WOULD -- WITH ALL
02:53:46 DUE RESPECT.
02:53:46 I KNOW WE DRAG ON THINGS SOMETIMES BUT FOR VERY GOOD
02:53:50 REASON.
02:53:50 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MR. SHELBY'S RESEARCH AND COME BACK
02:53:53 AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP IN JUNE.
02:53:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:53:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY DINGFELDER, SECOND BY
02:54:00 MANISCALCO.
02:54:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S JUNE -- YES.
02:54:05 THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF.
02:54:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 9 A.M. IS THE ONE THAT I AM
02:54:10 PRESENTLY ON THE CALENDAR FOR ON THE 24th.
02:54:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S BIG I BACK TO THE ONE ALREADY
02:54:15 ON THE SCHEDULE.
02:54:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
02:54:21 >> CHAIRMAN GUDES?
02:54:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, COMING BACK ON THE
02:54:30 24th.
02:54:30 THE CLERK WANTS CLARIFICATION.
02:54:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT'S NOT MY RECOMMENDATION.
02:54:34 THERE WAS A MOTION MADE LAST WEEK TO PUT THAT ITEM ONTO
02:54:37 THE 24th, AND I BELIEVE IT'S COUNCILMEMBER
02:54:41 DINGFELDER'S MOTION TO ADD THESE ITEMS TO COME BACK AT
02:54:44 THAT TIME.
02:54:48 IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:54:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK?
02:54:51 CORRECT.
02:54:52 >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
02:54:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BUT DISCUSSION.
02:54:58 MS. FEELEY.
02:54:59 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I JUST WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND
02:55:02 TO THE PART OF WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID.
02:55:06 SO RIGHT NOW PUBLICLY INITIATED AMENDMENT ARE ROLLING AT
02:55:09 ALL TIMES.
02:55:10 AND WE HAVE THE TWO PRIVATELY INITIATED CYCLES THAT
02:55:15 SOMETIMES ARE QUITE VOLUMINOUS, SO TO SPEAK, AS TO WHAT
02:55:20 COMES IN.
02:55:21 SO I THINK PART OF OUR INTENT WAS TO GIVE DEDICATED TIME
02:55:24 AND STAFF RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO REALLY LOOK AT THOSE
02:55:29 AMENDMENTS THAT ARE COMING FORTH FROM THE COUNCIL IN A
02:55:33 MORE RESPONSIVE AND THOROUGH WAY THAN WHAT RESOURCES
02:55:37 ALLOW IF WE JUST KEEP TACKING THEM ON AND KEEP THAT KIND
02:55:41 OF ROLLING SCHEDULE.
02:55:42 THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO CREATE THOSE TWO TIMES OF YEAR
02:55:46 WHEN WE WOULD BE FOCUSED ON THOSE MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE
02:55:49 THAT ARE COMING FRACTURE FROM THE COUNCIL OR FROM THE
02:55:51 ADMINISTRATION, OR FROM THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE COUNCIL
02:55:54 AND BACK TO YOU.
02:55:56 IF WE WERE TO JUST KEEP THEM TAGGED ONTO THE PRIVATELY
02:55:59 INITIATED CYCLES, I WOULD SAY THEN PLEASE JUST GIVE US
02:56:02 TWO CYCLES AND THEN PERHAPS WE WOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF
02:56:05 APPLICATIONS AGAIN, BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE
02:56:09 WHERE I SHOWED YOU THE DIFFERENCE THAT IT REQUIRES A LOT
02:56:13 OF OUR TEAM, OUR TEAM OF ONE, TO BE PROCESSING THESE AT
02:56:18 ALL TIMES.
02:56:19 AND THAT REALLY IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
02:56:25 I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT FOR NO PRIVATELY INITIATED
02:56:28 AMENDMENT.
02:56:29 BUTT I DID RESPOND TO SEE IF ANY OF THAT RESEARCH WAS
02:56:32 AVAILABLE TO INCORPORATE, AND IT WASN'T, AND THEY DIDN'T
02:56:36 WANT TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION TODAY TILL A LATER DATE.
02:56:39 SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON
02:56:41 THAT.
02:56:42 THAT'S KIND WHY WE ARE DOING IT TODAY, IS WE ARE ONE OF
02:56:45 THOSE CYCLES THAT IS JUST KIND OF OUT THERE, AND I WOULD
02:56:49 LIKE TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME STRUCTURE TO THAT, THAT WOULD
02:56:52 ULTIMATELY ALLOW US, I THINK, TO DO A BETTER JOB IN THE
02:56:56 LONG RUN OF PROCESSING THESE AND REALLY ADDRESSING THE
02:57:00 MODIFICATIONS AND THE INTENT BEHIND THEM.
02:57:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
02:57:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MR. SHELBY.
02:57:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
02:57:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
02:57:10 MS. FEELEY, I HEAR YOU AND I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD
02:57:12 IDEAS IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I KNOW STAFF TIME IS
02:57:15 ALWAYS LIMITED AND YOU GUYS ARE OVERWORKED AND I
02:57:17 APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.
02:57:18 WAY WOULD SUGGEST IS BETWEEN NOW AND THE JUNE WORKSHOP
02:57:22 THAT WE MEET AND CONVENE.
02:57:26 I SEE MS. POST ON THE SCREEN AS WELL, AND I URGE HER TO
02:57:31 BE THERE AS WELL AND I AM TOTALLY AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH
02:57:34 YOU GUYS IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY TO KIND OF HASH THIS OUT
02:57:38 AND SEE WHERE WE GO.
02:57:39 BUT THAT'S JUST ONE COUNCILMAN, OBVIOUSLY.
02:57:42 BUT SINCE IT WAS MY ORIGINAL MOTION, I WOULD BE MORE THAN
02:57:45 HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU GUYS.
02:57:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY
02:57:49 DINGFELDER.
02:57:50 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
02:57:51 WE HAD DISCUSSION.
02:57:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:57:53 ANY OPPOSED?
02:57:55 MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:57:56 >> I HAVE ANOTHER ITEM.
02:58:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M SORRY.
02:58:11 I'M SORRY.
02:58:12 >> ONE OF THE OTHER DIRECTIVES WAS TO TRY, AND REMEMBER I
02:58:28 CAME TO YOU A WHILE BACK ABOUT HOW WE DID -- THE CITY
02:58:33 USED TO HAVE A PROCESS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION --
02:58:36 ADMINISTRATIVE CREATION OF LOTS, AND THE 80% RULE THAT
02:58:41 TURNED INTO A SPECIAL USE, AND LATER ON WAS ELIMINATED,
02:58:45 AND LOTS BECAME PDS.
02:58:49 I BELIEVE YOU WERE SEEING A LOT OF THESE AND SOME OF THEM
02:58:51 WERE VERY MINOR.
02:58:53 AND THE QUESTION WAS RAISED AS TO COULD THERE POTENTIALLY
02:58:56 BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR A 5% SPLIT -- I'M SORRY,
02:59:01 WHEN A LOT WAS 5% LESS THAN THE ZONING LOT REQUIREMENTS,
02:59:07 AND WE DID SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, AND THEN TODAY WE ARE
02:59:10 BACK WITH YOU TO PRESENT THAT AND OUR RECOMMENDATION ON
02:59:14 THAT MOTION.
02:59:18 AND ERIC IS HERE.
02:59:22 ERIC IS HERE WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON.
02:59:24 AND WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION REAL
02:59:27 QUICK.
02:59:28 IT'S ONLY A COUPLE SLIDES.
02:59:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED.
02:59:30 >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY, SULING, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
02:59:36 SO HERE IS THE MOTION THAT CAME DOWN AND THE 5% THAT WAS
02:59:42 RELATED TO IT IN RELATION TO THE CRITERIA. SO NEXT
02:59:47 SLIDE.
02:59:49 WHAT WE DID, COUNCIL, WAS WE WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED AT THE
02:59:53 REZONINGS THAT WERE CONSIDERED BY YOU, AND WE REVIEWED 22
02:59:59 OF THE APPROVED ZONING CASES THAT REQUESTED LOT SPLITS,
03:00:04 AND FELT WE PUT IN WERE THE PDS.
03:00:10 AN AVERAGE OF THE 10 PDS, THE LOT REDUCTION WAS 17%.
03:00:14 SO IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A 5%, WOULD NOT HAVE
03:00:19 CAPTURED THOSE 10 MOST RECENT CASES THAT CAME TO YOU AS
03:00:23 PDS.
03:00:24 THAT BEING SAID, AND KIND OF BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN THE
03:00:30 OLD 80 PERCENT RULE AND THE 5% THAT WAS BEING REQUESTED
03:00:33 FOR EVALUATION, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE
03:00:38 TO HAVE THE PROCESS, THAT FOR EXAMPLE, ON A 10 PERCENT
03:00:44 PROCESS IN THE RS-60 WHICH IS A 60 BY 100 LOT, THAT WOULD
03:00:49 ALLOW FOR THE CREATION OF A 54-FOOT LOT, 54 BY 100, AS AN
03:00:57 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
03:01:01 AND TO MENTION THAT IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE
03:01:04 SPECIAL DISTRICTS, THEY ALREADY HAVE A BUILDABLE LOT
03:01:07 PROVISION FOR PLOTTED LOTS.
03:01:11 IN EAST TAMPA WHERE YOU HAVE SOME 38-FOOT PLATTED LOTS,
03:01:14 THOSE WOULDN'T BE ADMINISTRATIVE, THEY ARE ALLOWED BY
03:01:18 RIGHT, AND WE DO HAVE -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:01:22 -- A SLIDE THAT ILLUSTRATES FOR YOU THOSE DISTRICTS THAT
03:01:25 HAVE THE LOT OF RECORD, THE OLD WIDTH, THE DATE OF WHICH
03:01:31 THE LOT, THE OVERLAY OR THE SPECIAL DISTRICT WAS CREATED,
03:01:36 AS OF JANUARY 1st OF 2008 OR 2006.
03:01:40 IF YOU ARE A LEGAL OWNER OF RECORD IN ANY OF THESE AREAS
03:01:44 DEPENDING ON THEIR IMPLEMENTATION DATE, YOU ARE
03:01:48 CONSIDERED A BUILDABLE LOT AND YOU WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED
03:01:50 TO HAVE SPLIT OR TO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR TO
03:02:00 BE BUILT.
03:02:03 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:02:04 SO OUR RECOMMENDATION HERE TODAY, AND IF YOU ARE IN
03:02:10 AGREEMENT WITH THIS, WE WOULD AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE A
03:02:13 PUBLIC INFORMATION -- WE WOULD INCLUDE THIS IN OUR PUBLIC
03:02:16 INFORMATION SESSION ON JUNE 7th, AND THEN WE WOULD
03:02:19 COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST WITH THE ACTUAL CODE LANGUAGE
03:02:24 FOR CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE FOLLOWING, AND ERIC AND
03:02:29 MYSELF HAVE ALREADY BEEN LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE, AND
03:02:31 GETTING THEM TOGETHER, BUT WE DID WANT TO START OFF WITH
03:02:35 JUST THE GENERAL CONCEPT WITH YOU TODAY.
03:02:37 AND THE FIRST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CREATION
03:02:42 OF THESE LOTS UNDER THIS 10% THROUGH THE FORMAL DECISION
03:02:45 PROCESS, THAT IS A NOTICED PROCESS, SO THERE WOULD BE
03:02:49 PUBLIC NOTICE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF THOSE APPLICATIONS,
03:02:55 AND THEN WE WOULD CREATE THE CRITERIA THAT GOES WITH
03:02:58 THOSE, AND THAT WOULD BE 10% OF THE REQUIRED -- REDUCTION
03:03:02 OF UP TO 10% OF THE REQUIRED LOT DIMENSION AND/OR LOT
03:03:06 WIDTH.
03:03:06 IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
03:03:08 PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND WE PUT THAT 1320
03:03:13 WHICH IS A QUARTER MILE, AND THEN THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO
03:03:20 GRANT THE RECOGNITION OF ANY EXISTING SETBACKS.
03:03:23 SO WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE A DOUBLE LOT, AND
03:03:27 YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE ON ONE PORTION OF THAT, OR ON THE
03:03:33 ORIGINAL PLATTED LOT ON ONE SIDE, THEN YOU HAVE A VACANT
03:03:36 PLATTED LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND PEOPLE COME IN, AND
03:03:39 THIS WILL BE TO RECOGNIZE ON THAT INTERIOR LOT LINE, IF
03:03:43 THERE WAS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THERE, RIGHT NOW THAT
03:03:45 PERSON HAS TO GO AND GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT SETBACK, IF
03:03:49 IT DOES NOT MEET THE SEVEN FEET OR THEY COME TO YOU
03:03:52 THROUGH A PD, TO GRANT THAT INTERIOR LOT SETBACK FOR THAT
03:03:58 EXISTING STRUCTURE, AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, BE
03:04:03 ALLOWED TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
03:04:06 NOT TO VIEW IT AS A VARIANCE BUT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A
03:04:14 NONCONFORMING CHARACTERISTIC OF THE SITE.
03:04:18 AND THAT'S DIFFERENT, BECAUSE IN A VARIANCE, IT
03:04:21 ACTUALLY -- LET'S SAY IT'S 6 FEET, AND THEN IT CAN BE
03:04:28 BUILT BACK.
03:04:30 IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD RECOGNIZE IT BUT IT WOULD NOT VEST
03:04:34 IT AND IN THE FUTURE IF THAT HOUSE WERE DEMOED AND
03:04:37 REBUILD IT WOULD MEET CODE.
03:04:39 SO THAT IS OUR THIRD RECOMMENDATION IN RELATION TO THAT.
03:04:45 AND THEN WE JUST HAD SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE CLEAN-UP WHERE
03:04:49 IT TALKS ABOUT RECONFIGURATION AND REORIENTATION AND WE
03:04:53 ARE LOOKING TO BRING THAT UP AND HAVE THAT IN A FORUM
03:04:56 ACROSS THAT CODE SECTION WHICH CURRENTLY IS SECTION 27-11
03:05:00 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
03:05:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
03:05:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, ABBEY.
03:05:09 THAT WAS -- AND ERIC.
03:05:11 THAT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
03:05:14 AND COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE -- I THINK IT'S THE FIRST
03:05:17 SLIDE OR THE SECOND SLIDE?
03:05:21 KEEP GOING.
03:05:23 NO.
03:05:26 OKAY.
03:05:26 NEXT ONE.
03:05:33 STAFF REVIEWED 22 REZONING CASES, 10 WERE PREPONDERANCE
03:05:37 OF THE EVIDENCES, AN AVERAGE OF 17%.
03:05:39 I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE MEDIAN WAS.
03:05:43 THE REASON THIS JUMPED OUT AT ME, AND I THINK THE REST OF
03:05:47 COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHO SUPPORTED MY MOTION, WAS WE WERE --
03:05:53 SOMEBODY WAS TWO FEET OFF AND THEY HAD TO COME IN FOR AN
03:06:00 ENTIRE PD, AND HOW MUCH DID THAT COST, ABBEY, A COUPLE
03:06:03 THOUSAND AT LEAST?
03:06:03 AND SIX MONTHS, MAYBE 3 OR 4,000, AND SIX MONTHS, AND
03:06:08 YADA YADA YADA, BECAUSE THEY WERE TWO FEET OFF, FOR
03:06:12 WHATEVER REASON.
03:06:12 AND THERE WERE DIFFERING REASONS.
03:06:15 SO AND THAT TWO FEET COULD BE ACCOMMODATED BY THE 5%.
03:06:20 I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING WITH THE 10%, PERHAPS A
03:06:24 LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN I MIGHT WANT TO GO.
03:06:28 I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THIS CONCEPT AND
03:06:32 TAKE IT OUT AND VET IT TO THE PUBLIC.
03:06:36 I'M SURE THE DEVELOPERS WOULD BE THRILLED WITH IT.
03:06:39 BUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THE DEVELOPMENT
03:06:41 COMMUNITY, AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT 5% VERSUS 10%.
03:06:51 BEFORE WE GIVE OUR FINAL DIRECTION, I THINK IT WOULD BE
03:06:58 GOOD TO HEAR FROM THEM.
03:07:00 FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT 60 FEET TO 54
03:07:03 FEET, YOU KNOW, NO PLACE LIKE VIRGINIA PARK, WHICH HAS
03:07:06 BEEN FIGHTING A LOT OF THESE, THEY MIGHT TAKE GREAT
03:07:11 OFFENSE TO THAT.
03:07:12 BUT MAYBE THEY COULD BE AMENABLE TO A 5% REDUCTION.
03:07:18 ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY FOLLOW-UP ON THIS.
03:07:22 >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I CAN RESPOND TO THAT REAL QUICK.
03:07:26 WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO GO BACK AND SEE OF THOSE THAT YOU
03:07:29 CONSIDERED HOW MANY WOULD WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE
03:07:34 ADMINISTRATIVELY VERSUS HAVE THEM COME TO YOU AS A PD,
03:07:39 AND I BELIEVE THE ANSWER WAS NONE AT 5%.
03:07:43 SO --
03:07:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW I HAVE SEEN -- I'M SORRY.
03:07:47 I KNOW I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THEM AT 2 OR 3 FEET, BECAUSE
03:07:50 THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF CAME UP WITH THE 5%.
03:07:54 MAYBE THEY WEREN'T PDS.
03:07:56 MAYBE THEY WERE EUCLIDIAN.
03:07:57 BUT MAYBE YOU COULD JUST GIVE US A LIST OF THOSE 22 CASES
03:08:02 SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE FIRST HAND.
03:08:07 SOMETIMES MEDIAN IS MORE INFORMATIVE THAN AVERAGE,
03:08:11 BECAUSE ONE OF THEM MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LOT, AND THAT COULD
03:08:17 SKEW THE AVERAGE. ANYWAY, I'M SORRY.
03:08:19 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:08:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST SCRATCHING AROUND AND I AM
03:08:26 LISTENING TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND YOU HAVE A
03:08:29 SETBACK OF 7 FEET FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE
03:08:32 SETBACK, I THINK IT'S 7, RIGHT? SO YOU WANT TO GIVE 57%.
03:08:36 7 TIMES 12 IS 84 INCHES.
03:08:38 CORRECT?
03:08:38 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS IS THE LOT WIDTH.
03:08:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OH, LOT WIDTH.
03:08:46 THE SAME PRINCIPLE TO THE LOT WIDTH.
03:08:49 IF YOU TAKE 5% OF THE LOT WIDTH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
03:08:54 LOT WIDTH IS, LET'S SAY 70 FEET WIDE, I GUESS, AND 50
03:09:00 FEET, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT AND YOU TAKE IT BACK BY
03:09:02 INCHES, WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MAY BE 4.5 INCHES
03:09:07 DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO GIVE.
03:09:09 5% MEANS AND AWFUL LOT IN DIFFERENT MATHEMATICAL AREAS.
03:09:13 IF IT'S A 20-FOOT THING SETBACK AND YOU ARE ONLY GIVING
03:09:16 5%, YOU CAN'T TELL THE NAKED EYE CAN'T TELL.
03:09:20 BUT THE SMALLER THE SETBACK AND 5% EQUAL TO THE SAME SUMS
03:09:28 OF THOSE NUMBERS LOOKS MUCH GREATER BECAUSE YOU ARE
03:09:31 CLOSER AND YOU ARE ALREADY CLOSE TO THE BUILDING AND IT'S
03:09:34 MUCH CLOSER.
03:09:35 FOLLOW ME?
03:09:36 THE METRICS, I DON'T FIGURE IT OUT QUITE IN MY MIND HOW
03:09:40 SOMETHING IS GOING TO LOOK VERY DIFFERENT IF YOU ARE
03:09:42 ALREADY CLOSE TO NOT HAVING A SETBACK.
03:09:46 I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE 5%, BUT I HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT
03:09:49 METRICS TO SEE HOW IT LOOKS IN DIFFERENT SIZE LOTS.
03:09:53 >>: SO I GUESS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT MIGHT APPLY TO A
03:09:58 50-FOOT LOT OR MORE LIKELY A 60-FOOT LOT.
03:10:02 ACTUALLY, I GUESS WE HAVE SEEN THEM ON 50-FOOT LOTS.
03:10:05 SO 50 FEET, 5% REDUCTION WOULD BE TWO AND A HALF FEET.
03:10:08 60 FEET, 5% LEE DUCKS WOULD BE 3 FEET.
03:10:11 SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME TO
03:10:14 COUNCIL FOR THAT TWO AND A HALF FOOT OR THREE FOOT
03:10:18 MODIFICATION, BASICALLY USUALLY WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT
03:10:22 THE LOT WIDTH AT THE STREET.
03:10:25 SO INSTEAD OF COMING TO COUNCIL AT TWO AND A HALF FEET OR
03:10:28 THREE FEET, WHAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT CONSIDERING IS
03:10:31 MAYBE LET THEM DO IT ADMINISTRATIVELY, AND MR. MIRANDA,
03:10:35 YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT 80% RULE THAT MS. SAUL-SENA
03:10:43 VEHEMENTLY HATED,.
03:10:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE IT WAS --
03:10:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND ULTIMATELY GOT RID OF THE 80%
03:10:54 RULE.
03:10:54 BUT I THINK ABBEY WAS A 20% REDUCTION, RIGHT?
03:10:58 ERIC IS SHAKING HIS HEAD FOR THE RECORD.
03:11:00 SO THAT WAS PRETTY STREAM.
03:11:02 THAT BASICALLY SAID, HEY, IF YOU ARE WITHIN 20%, YOU
03:11:05 KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL, YOU DON'T HAVE
03:11:08 TO GET A VARIANCE, MAYBE YOU CAN DO IT ADD MECHANISM OR
03:11:11 WHATEVER.
03:11:11 THAT WAS PRETTY EXTREME.
03:11:12 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF
03:11:16 RELIEF FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER, BUT NOT TOO MUCH.
03:11:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE?
03:11:28 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
03:11:29 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN I COME BACK, IF YOU COME BACK,
03:11:32 PLEASE SEPARATE THESE SO WE CAN VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY.
03:11:37 SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID AT THE END.
03:11:39 I THINK 10% IS WAY TOO MUCH.
03:11:41 THERE ARE TOO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH
03:11:43 TAMPA.
03:11:44 MR. NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS WE SHOULDN'T TREAT OTHER
03:11:46 NEIGHBORHOOD DIFFERENTLY.
03:11:47 BUT I THINK 10% WOULD BE UPSETTING TO LOTS OF PEOPLE.
03:11:52 BUT I WONDER ALSO EVEN IF IT'S 5%, BY THE WAY YOU WROTE
03:11:57 IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A NEW ENTITLEMENT.
03:11:59 SO INSTEAD OF 60 FEET, IT WOULD BE 57, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE
03:12:04 TO BUILD IN ITS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE ADMINISTRATION
03:12:07 SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE A JUDGMENT BUT IT'S NOT A
03:12:11 GUARANTEED ENTITLEMENT?
03:12:12 >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES THERE.
03:12:15 WERE CRITERIA THAT TALKED ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AND THE
03:12:19 ESTABLISHMENT OF THE LOT.
03:12:22 UNDER THE GENERAL SECTION OF CREATION OF LOTS, IT'S IN
03:12:25 THE CODE.
03:12:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S NOT LOOSE DISCRETION.
03:12:30 IT'S SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE DISCRETION.
03:12:33 YOU KNOW, THERE'S CHECK BOXES.
03:12:36 THAT'S WHAT ABBEY THINKS.
03:12:37 SO STAFF WOULD REVIEW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT QUARTER
03:12:40 MILE CIRCLE.
03:12:42 AND IF IT'S COMPATIBLE TO ALLOW THAT 3 FAT REDUCTION,
03:12:46 THEN THEY COULD ALLOW IT.
03:12:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY THING I AM SUGGESTING IS IT NOT
03:12:53 BE AN AUTOMATIC ENTITLEMENT.
03:12:55 WE SEE SO MANY CASES WHERE PEOPLE COME BEFORE US EVEN ON
03:12:58 BIG ZONING CHANGES WHERE THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THE
03:13:01 ENTITLEMENT WILL CHANGE.
03:13:03 AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH EXPECTATION.
03:13:08 THANK YOU.
03:13:08 >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I COULD JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE ON
03:13:12 THIS, A 5% EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAD MENTIONED IT WOULD BE A
03:13:22 57-FOOT LOT.
03:13:24 SO THIS WOULD BE -- IF 57 FEET IS A TYPICAL SUBDIVISION
03:13:32 PLATTED LOT SIZE, AND IF THERE WERE A SUBDIVISION, AND
03:13:35 SOMEBODY HAD A LOT CURRENTLY WHERE THEY HAD 1134 FEET TO
03:13:39 A PLATTED LOTS AND THEY WERE COMING BACK, WHAT YOU
03:13:42 NORMALLY SEE BEFORE YOU IS PEOPLE COMING BACK WANTING TO
03:13:46 ESTABLISH THE PLATTED LOTS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH THOSE
03:13:49 ZONING LOTS AND IN THIS CASE IF SOMEBODY HAD 114 FEET IT
03:13:55 WAS TWO PLATTED 57-FOOT LOTS, THROUGH A 5%
03:13:59 ADMINISTRATIVE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT SINGLE
03:14:02 LOT AS TWO 57-FOOT LOTS WITHOUT COMING BEFORE CITY
03:14:07 COUNCIL.
03:14:15 SO WE WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT LIST, THE 22, AND
03:14:19 GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT.
03:14:23 AND INITIALLY I'M NOT SURE THAT A 5%, HOW MANY
03:14:26 APPLICATIONS THAT'S REALLY GOING TO SAVE YOU SO IN SAID
03:14:31 BEING UP THE WHOLE PROCESS.
03:14:33 BUT LET US EVALUATE THAT AND WE CAN COME BACK AND TAKE
03:14:36 TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
03:14:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR.
03:14:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
03:14:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
03:14:41 I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ADD THAT TO YOUR DISCUSSION WITH
03:14:44 THE COMMUNITY IN JUNE, JUNE 4th, THE INFORMATION
03:14:51 SESSIONS, AS LONG AS WE ARE VETTING THESE KINDS OF ISSUES
03:14:56 TO INCLUDE THAT DISCUSSION, AND SEE WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK
03:15:00 WE GET ON 5% VERSUS 10%.
03:15:02 >>ABBYE FEELEY: WILL DO.
03:15:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOT.
03:15:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
03:15:10 THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
03:15:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SHE'S GOING TO BRING THAT BACK OR
03:15:14 SHOULD WE BRING THAT BACK?
03:15:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: JOHN 24th, RIGHT?
03:15:19 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DID HAVE A DEMO OF KIND OF AN UPDATE.
03:15:24 I KNOW I VERBALLY TALKED WITH YOU, AND I KNOW I VERBALLY
03:15:32 MENTIONED THIS EARLIER.
03:15:33 WE DO HAVE THAT JUNE 7th PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION,
03:15:39 THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING THE NOISE ITEMS, THE AMPLE FIND
03:15:44 SOUND ITEMS, THAT WE WORKSHOPPED WITH YOU ABOUT TWO
03:15:49 MONTHS AGO.
03:15:52 THE TEXT AMENDMENT CHANGE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT
03:15:56 ONE I WOULD PROBABLY PUT ON HOLD AND THE INFORMATION
03:16:00 SESSION UNTIL WE GET MR. SHELBY'S RESEARCH AND WE KNOW
03:16:03 THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL ON THAT.
03:16:05 AND THEN THIS ITEM HERE ON THE 5%, 10%, WE CAN TALK ABOUT
03:16:12 THAT ON THE 7th.
03:16:13 AND THEN THE PRIVATE INITIATED AMENDMENT, THAT WAS ASKED
03:16:18 TO BE WORKSHOPPED AND THE PUBLIC IS ALSO BEING HANDLED ON
03:16:22 THE 7th.
03:16:23 THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THAT MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM
03:16:28 ARE SCHEDULED TO COME BACK ON THE 24th WITH THEIR
03:16:30 FINDINGS FROM THE INFORMATION SESSION, AND THEN AN
03:16:33 OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THOSE TO YOU.
03:16:37 THEY HAVE NOT DONE UNDER THEIR PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED
03:16:40 STADIUM.
03:16:41 AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT WE ARE NOW
03:16:45 COMPILING AS THIS PACKAGE OF PUBLIC INITIATED AMENDMENT
03:16:48 THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET BACK ON ONE
03:16:52 TRACK FOR YOU, AT THE END OF AUGUST.
03:16:59 SULING, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:17:01 COME FORWARD TOWARD THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
03:17:04 MINE IS NOT CHANGING.
03:17:05 MAYBE YOU ALL ARE SEEING SOMETHING.
03:17:07 OH, HERE WE GO. KEEP GOING.
03:17:08 KEEP GOING.
03:17:09 ONE MORE, ONE MORE.
03:17:11 THERE WE GO.
03:17:12 OOPS, WE PASSED IT.
03:17:13 ONE BACK.
03:17:16 THERE YOU GO.
03:17:17 SO YES, MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM COMING BACK ON THE
03:17:22 24th.
03:17:23 WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU ON THE 7th WITH THESE
03:17:26 ITEMS.
03:17:26 NOW, THE TEXT AMENDMENT PER YOUR DIRECTION SAY WE WILL
03:17:30 COME BACK WITH YOU TO LISTEN TO MARTY'S PRESENTATION ON
03:17:35 JUNE 24th AND SEE HOW THAT MAY IMPACT WHAT WE
03:17:38 DISCUSSED TODAY, AND ALSO COORDINATE WITH COUNCILMAN
03:17:42 DINGFELDER ON THAT MEETING AS REQUESTED.
03:17:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT JUNE 24th ON THIS 5%
03:17:49 10:%?
03:17:50 THAT WAY, WE COULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN WE GET TO
03:17:54 AUGUST 27th.
03:17:55 >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY.
03:17:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
03:18:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT A MOTION?
03:18:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT A MOTION, MR. SHELBY?
03:18:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, I AM JUST ASKING WHETHER THE CLERK
03:18:09 WOULD WANT -- DO WE NEED A MOTION, MS. FEELEY?
03:18:12 OR NOT NECESSARY?
03:18:13 >>ABBYE FEELEY: AS LONG AS THE CLERK IS AWARE THAT WE
03:18:17 ARE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ON THE 24th, OR A
03:18:23 MOTION TO BRING IT BACK ON THE 24th.
03:18:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT FOR THE
03:18:28 CLERK, THIS 5% OR 10% FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD VARIANCE,
03:18:37 OR FORGIVENESS OR WHATEVER, ISSUE WILL COME BACK ON THE
03:18:40 24th FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
03:18:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND, IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME.
03:18:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY DINGFELDER, SECOND BY
03:18:48 MIRANDA.
03:18:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:18:50 ALL OPPOSED?
03:18:50 ANY OPPOSED?
03:18:52 ALL RIGHT, MOTION GRANTED BY CONSENT.
03:18:59 ANYTHING ELSE?
03:19:00 >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:19:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
03:19:05 I AM GOING TO GO DOWN, OPEN UP FOR INFORMATION REPORTS
03:19:08 AND NEW BUSINESS.
03:19:09 AND THEN AT THE END I AM GOING TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT
03:19:11 A SITUATION OF LAST WEEK, ASK FOR A MOTION.
03:19:16 MR. VIERA, ANYTHING, SIR?
03:19:18 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
03:19:21 YES, VERY BRIEFLY.
03:19:22 I MOTION FOR RENE WAR MAC AND SAM PIASSA TO COME BEFORE
03:19:28 CITY COUNCIL IN A REGULAR SESSION ON JULY 15th, 2021
03:19:32 AT 9:00 A.M. IN HONOR OF DISABILITY AWARENESS DAY TO
03:19:36 PROVIDE A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE DOCUMENTARY
03:19:38 MOVIE "BECAUSE OF SAM."
03:19:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
03:19:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:19:44 ANY OPPOSED?
03:19:45 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN HOUSE BILL 53, MANY WERE AFRAID WAS
03:19:49 GOING TO BE A BILL ON OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE WORKED WITH
03:19:54 MAYOR CASTOR AND ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER, TO PASS, AND
03:19:58 I AM PRETTY DARN SURE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT I WOULD LIKE
03:20:02 TO HAVE STAFF -- I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A WEIRD
03:20:06 BILL, BUT WHATEVER.
03:20:06 IT APPEARS TO BE A BILL THAT PREEMPTS ORDINANCES WHERE
03:20:13 THERE ARE STATE DOLLARS USED AND WOULDN'T APPEAR TO BE
03:20:17 RELEVANT FOR US BUT I MOTION FOR STAFF TO REPORT ON THE
03:20:20 IMPACT TO CITY OF TAMPA THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE AND
03:20:23 WE CAN DO THAT AT THE END OF JULY IS FINE.
03:20:31 WHATEVER THE CLERK CAN PUT IT IN.
03:20:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA, IF THAT'S THE CASE,
03:20:38 CONGRATULATIONS.
03:20:39 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
03:20:42 WE'LL SEE.
03:20:42 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
03:20:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. VIERA, SECONDED BY MR.
03:20:49 MANISCALCO.
03:20:50 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:20:51 ANY OPPOSED?
03:20:52 >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING ELSE, SIR.
03:20:53 THANK YOU.
03:20:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
03:20:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE IN OTHER CITIES
03:21:00 AND I HAVE SEEN THE PRESS OF OTHER CITIES, OTHER CITIES
03:21:03 ARE HAVING PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE
03:21:06 PLAN MONEY, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT WE SCHEDULED
03:21:08 ANYTHING ABOUT THAT YET.
03:21:09 SO UNLESS SOMEBODY KNOWS SOMETHING, I THINK WE SHOULD --
03:21:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, DIDN'T YOU ASK --
03:21:16 >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN, YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU
03:21:18 LIKE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:21:19 BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE ADMINISTRATION INDICATED THEY
03:21:24 WOULDN'T KNOW UNTIL SUCH TIME AS IT'S ROUGHLY TIME TO
03:21:27 BEGIN TO PRESENT ON THE BUDGET.
03:21:29 SO IT WOULD KIND OF CONFLICT.
03:21:31 IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT'S
03:21:33 GREAT.
03:21:34 I MEAN, THAT'S $81 MILLION THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
03:21:37 GETTING.
03:21:38 AND THERE'S SO MANY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.
03:21:41 BUT WHAT I WOULD TOLD IS THAT WHEN THEY FINALLY GET AN
03:21:44 ANSWER IT WILL SORT OF CONFLICT WITH THE PRESENTATION OF
03:21:47 THE BUDGET.
03:21:49 SO IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP OR WHATEVER, I'M TOTALLY IN
03:21:53 AGREEMENT WITH YOU.
03:21:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE WAS A DISCUSSION MR. VIERA AND I
03:21:56 HAD YESTERDAY.
03:21:57 AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THOSE FUNDS.
03:22:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH MR. ROGERO?
03:22:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S CORRECT.
03:22:03 WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE FUNDS ABOUT MAKING A PRESENTATION
03:22:07 BECAUSE SOME FUND RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE HAVING HAVEN'T
03:22:12 DEFINED HOW THOSE FUNDS WILL BE USED YET, AND WITHIN THE
03:22:17 CITY GENERAL FUNDS.
03:22:20 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT A SEPARATE
03:22:22 DISCUSSION ON JUNE 24th.
03:22:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: N IS THE AGENDA TOO BUSY ON THAT
03:22:27 DATE?
03:22:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT MIGHT BE TOO EARLY, BUT A
03:22:30 DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL HAVE ALL THAT
03:22:33 INFORMATION AS OF YET.
03:22:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE
03:22:36 PUBLIC.
03:22:37 I AM GETTING LOTS MUCH COMPLAINTS ABOUT PARK BENCHES WITH
03:22:40 SPLINTERS, POTHOLES, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LISTEN
03:22:43 TO THE PUN, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ASKING US FOR BOAT
03:22:46 HOUSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
03:22:47 THEY ARE ASKING US FOR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:22:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
03:22:55 JUST SPEAKING WITH HIM -- I WOULD SAY MAYBE JULY.
03:22:58 BUT WOULDN'T HAVE THE TOTAL INFORMATION ON HOW IT'S GOING
03:23:04 TO WORK.
03:23:05 >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT JULY 15th, STAFF REPORT ON
03:23:08 JULY 15 THIS N SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
03:23:12 HAVE CFO'S OFFICE PRESENT DURING STAFF REPORTS ON JULY
03:23:16 15th, ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN BUDGET, AND ANY
03:23:24 PROPOSALS TO SPEND IT AND ALSO WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON
03:23:28 THAT DAY OF THEIR IDEA HOW TO SPEND IT.
03:23:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO QUESTIONS THEN.
03:23:36 THE FIRST ACTUALLY BEING WHEN YOU SAY HEAR FROM THE
03:23:38 PUBLIC, THAT WOULD BE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
03:23:41 BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE UNDER STAFF REPORT ON THE 15th.
03:23:43 IS THAT CORRECT?
03:23:44 >>BILL CARLSON: OR ANOTHER FEEDBACK TO HEAR PUBLIC
03:23:49 FEEDBACK.
03:23:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION OF COUNCIL.
03:23:52 IT WOULD BE LOGISTICALLY DIFFERENT FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE
03:23:55 TO PREPARE FOR THAT.
03:23:57 ANOTHER POINT, AFTER HEARING WHAT CHAIRMAN GUDES HEARD
03:24:01 YESTERDAY FROM THE CFO, I THINK IN MY OPINION IT WOULD BE
03:24:04 EQUALLY IMPORTANT IF NOT MORE SO FOR THE PUBLIC TO
03:24:07 UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ATTACHED TO THAT, AND A PROCESS AND
03:24:11 WHAT IT CAN ANT CANNOT BE USED FOR, BEFORE THEY MAKE A
03:24:17 JUDGMENT, BEFORE THEY BRING THAT TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE THEY
03:24:21 WERE NEW TO ME.
03:24:23 >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN DOES THE BUDGET HAVE TO BE DONE?
03:24:25 IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT BUDGET AFTER JUNE IS SEPTEMBER, IS
03:24:30 THAT RIGHT?
03:24:31 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, WHEN DOES THE MAYOR USUALLY
03:24:36 PRESENT THE BUDGET?
03:24:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JULY, I BELIEVE.
03:24:39 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD, WHICH IS LOOK,
03:24:42 BY THE TIME WE HAVE AN ANSWER, IT'S GOING TO BE TIME TO
03:24:44 PRESENT THE BUDGET.
03:24:45 I MEAN, I'LL TELL YOU MY PREFERENCE.
03:24:49 WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS FOR THAT MONEY, AMONG MY
03:24:51 IDEAS IS A FIRE STATION FOR NORTH TAMPA, HELP FOR NEW
03:24:55 TAMPA, FIRE STATION FOR CHANNELSIDE, MORE HELP FOR WEST
03:24:59 TAMPA WITH THEIR GROWING AREAS, FIRE SAFETY AMONG THEM.
03:25:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S SEE IF MR. ROGERO CAN BRING US
03:25:07 BACK SOMETHING BY THE 15th.
03:25:08 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
03:25:11 ASK CFO ON JULY 15th TO BRING A STAFF REPORT, HOW
03:25:15 MUCH MONEY THE CITY WILL BE GETTING FROM THE AMERICAN
03:25:19 RESCUE PLAN, AND WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR HOW CAN IT BE
03:25:23 SPENT.
03:25:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. CARLSON.
03:25:26 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
03:25:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:25:29 OPPOSED?
03:25:30 CARRIES.
03:25:30 MR. DINGFELDER.
03:25:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:25:35 I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS A LOT.
03:25:39 WE HAVE SOME GREAT COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO WE
03:25:42 HEAR FROM REGULARLY.
03:25:48 I WAS THINKING BACK A WAYS.
03:25:50 I THINK MOST OR SOME OF YOU KNOW MARGARET VIZZI.
03:25:54 MARGARET VIZZI WAS ONE OF THE -- STILL IS ONE OF THE TOP
03:25:59 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE SHE
03:26:02 WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS OF T.H.A.N.
03:26:06 T.H.A.N. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS KIND OF WENT ON THE
03:26:09 DOWNTURN A LITTLE BIT BUT NOW IT'S COMING BACK UP.
03:26:11 AND THERE IS SOME NEW BLOOD, REVITALIZING T.H.A.N.
03:26:16 SO I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A COUPLE OF
03:26:19 MONTHS.
03:26:20 WE HONOR OUR OWN WORKERS.
03:26:23 WE HONOR THE POLICE AND ATU AND THEY ARE ALL WELL
03:26:29 DESERVING.
03:26:29 BUT I WAS THINKING, AND THE COUNTY ALREADY DOES THIS,
03:26:31 THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER OF THE YEAR
03:26:34 AWARD IN RECOGNITION, GIVEN BY THE BODY, AND THAT WE
03:26:39 SHOULD CALL IT THE MARGARET VIZZI NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER OF
03:26:42 THE YEAR AWARD.
03:26:45 UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANOTHER IDEA.
03:26:48 AND I AM TOTALLY OPEN TO IT.
03:26:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
03:26:52 MARGARET VIZZI --
03:26:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN YOUR DISTRICT.
03:26:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN BEACH PARK AND I HAVE KNOWN HER
03:26:59 FOR A WHILE.
03:26:59 AND WHEN I WAS INVOLVED WITH T.H.A.N. BEFORE I GOT
03:27:02 ELECTED, STEVE LaBOUR WAS THERE, AND JERRY FRANKHOUSER,
03:27:06 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE PASSED AWAY, AND FOR A TIME, I
03:27:10 REMEMBER GOING TO A MEETING WHERE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
03:27:12 TO DO.
03:27:13 THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE, THEY
03:27:16 SAID WE'LL HELP YOU, AND A DYING AND DEAD GROUP.
03:27:21 BUT AS YOU ALREADY MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN REVITALIZED, NEW
03:27:25 BALLAD, AND KEEPING IT GOING, BECAUSE IT'S VERY
03:27:27 IMPORTANT.
03:27:29 SO I SUPPORT IT.
03:27:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A
03:27:32 VEHICLE OF T.H.A.N.
03:27:32 I JUST MENTIONED T.H.A.N. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MS. VIZZI
03:27:36 WAS THE STRONGEST.
03:27:37 BUT WE COULD FIGURE OUT SOME WAY HOW WE EVALUATE AND
03:27:42 MAYBE -- MAYBE MORAI CAN HELP US WITH SOME NOMINATIONS OR
03:27:51 IDEAS.
03:27:52 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER MIGHT BE, AND WE SHOULD DEFINITELY
03:27:54 TRY TO SPREAD IT AROUND THE CITY SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS
03:27:57 COMING OUT OF A PARTICULAR AREA.
03:28:00 BUT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE FOUR.
03:28:01 ONE FOR EACH DISTRICT.
03:28:03 SO ANYWAY, I TOSS IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.
03:28:06 AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
03:28:08 AND WE CAN BRING IT BACK.
03:28:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FOR MS. HOLMES TO BRING BACK A
03:28:19 POLICY FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD AWARD FOR THE DISTRICTS.
03:28:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I LIKE THAT IDEA ONE FOR EACH
03:28:25 DISTRICT, AND SPREAD IT AROUND, SO EVERY YEAR, ONE FROM
03:28:28 EACH DISTRICT GETS A NOD AND A LITTLE RECOGNITION.
03:28:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:28:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY DINGFELDER.
03:28:36 SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
03:28:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GIVE HER A LITTLE TIME TO PONDER IT.
03:28:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 15th OR LATER ON?
03:28:45 WHICH IS THE CITY OF TAMPA'S BIRTHDAY, LET'S NOT FORGET.
03:28:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT SOUND APPROPRIATE.
03:28:50 JULY 15th.
03:28:51 IS THAT A REGULAR MEETING?
03:28:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
03:28:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STAFF REPORT.
03:28:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER.
03:28:56 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
03:28:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:28:58 ANY OPPOSED?
03:28:59 NOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
03:29:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:29:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO TRY TO KEEP UP HERE
03:29:05 TILL 6.
03:29:10 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC
03:29:12 COMMITTEE TO ATTEND OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AUGUST
03:29:14 26th, 2021, AT WHICH TIME THEY WILL BE INVITING CITY
03:29:18 COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ATTEND THE 33rd ANNUAL HISPANIC
03:29:21 HERITAGE AWARD ON SEPTEMBER 28, THE YEAR 2021.
03:29:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED BY MIRANDA, SECOND BY DINGFELDER.
03:29:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:29:28 MOTION CARRIED.
03:29:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL OF US KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A
03:29:32 MEMBER OF THE TAMPA BAY WATER, ONE OF NINE, TAMPA BAY
03:29:35 WATER IS IN THE PROCESS OF INVESTIGATING OR INCORPORATING
03:29:39 POSSIBLY RECLAIMED WATER INTO THE PROCESS OF LONG-TERM
03:29:44 WATER USE.
03:29:47 CITY OF TAMPA RECLAIMED WATER HAS A LOT OF RECLAIMED
03:29:50 WATER, AND THE POTENTIAL OF PROJECTS WHICH COULD GREATLY
03:29:54 INVOLVE THE REGION.
03:29:56 AND I AM ASKING TAMPA BAY WATER AND THE CITY, WE SHOULD
03:30:00 MEET BEFORE WE DO ANY FURTHER PROJECTS, PLANNING OF THIS
03:30:05 SUBJECT MATTER, AND I AM ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE A
03:30:08 MOTION SENT TO TAMPA BAY WATER AND TO THE MAYOR TO
03:30:11 ENCOURAGE TAMPA BAY WATER TO MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF,
03:30:16 AND NOW TO IDENTIFY THE OPERATIONS AND CLARITY ON ANY OF
03:30:23 THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA MAY HAVE FOR
03:30:25 RECLAIMED WATER PROJECTS OF THE CITY, THAT WAY EVERYBODY
03:30:28 HAS CLEAR TRANSPARENCY OF WITH WHAT ONE SIDE IS DOING,
03:30:32 WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WANTS.
03:30:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
03:30:35 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
03:30:37 MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
03:30:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:30:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I WILL BE A LITTLE CANDID.
03:30:48 WITH WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
03:30:50 LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A HEATED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
03:30:55 CRB.
03:31:00 AND WE WERE HEATED.
03:31:03 THE ADMINISTRATION WAS HEATED AS WELL.
03:31:05 BUT SOME THINGS WERE SAID IN THE PUBLIC EYE THAT THAN ME
03:31:09 AS CHAIR DID NOT AGREE WITH BUT I DID NOT COME OUT AND
03:31:12 SAY ANYTHING PUBLICLY BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT'S
03:31:14 HEATED WE SAY THINGS WE DON'T MEAN OR THINGS THAT
03:31:17 SHOULDN'T BE SAID.
03:31:18 THAT BEING SAID, I FELT THIS COUNCIL, A LOT OF FOLKS WERE
03:31:21 UPSET ABOUT THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR.
03:31:25 THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE I THOUGHT WERE KIND OF
03:31:28 UNFAIR TO THIS COUNCIL.
03:31:29 BUT AGAIN, WHEN THINGS ARE HEATED, WHEN EMOTIONS ARE HIGH
03:31:33 THINGS ARE SAID.
03:31:34 I DON'T BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THE MAYOR WAS TO SAY SOME
03:31:36 OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SAID TO THE COUNCIL.
03:31:39 THIS COUNCIL DOES WORK HARD FOR THE PUBLIC.
03:31:42 WE HEAR COMPLAINTS OF THE PEOPLE.
03:31:49 UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.
03:31:51 I'M SURE SHE DOES HEAR THEM BUT NOT TO THE MAGNITUDE THAT
03:31:54 WE HEAR THEM.
03:31:55 SO AGAIN I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR MY
03:31:57 COLLEAGUES IF WE FELT WE WERE IN ANY WAY OUT OF LINE.
03:32:03 BUT I THINK A LOT OF THINGS WERE SAID, AND WHAT I CALL
03:32:06 THE BALL WAS DROPPED.
03:32:07 AND I AM NOT GOING TO SAY THE BALL WAS DROPPED ON OUR END
03:32:10 BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY GET WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION SENDS TO
03:32:12 US.
03:32:13 WE ONLY CAN RESPOND TO WHAT WE HAVE.
03:32:16 AND THAT SEQUENCE OF EVENTS LAST WEEK WE GOT THE BALL
03:32:21 DROPPED ON US IN THE 9th HOUR RELATIVE TO THINGS THE
03:32:25 ADMINISTRATION WAS LOOKING FOR.
03:32:27 BUT YOU KNOW THERE WAS A VOTE OF 6-1 BACK IN FEBRUARY.
03:32:30 IT WAS 7-4.
03:32:33 AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT GET ANY NOTICE THAT THE MAYOR WAS
03:32:37 NOT GOING TO UPHOLD WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A GOOD PLAN.
03:32:41 WE HAD A GOOD ORDINANCE.
03:32:44 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT LAST WEEK, MONDAY, PHONE CALLS
03:32:49 TO COUNCIL MEMBERS IN REFERENCE TO THAT SITUATION.
03:32:54 AS THE LEADER, I FELT, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AND
03:32:58 REFLECTED OVER THE WEEKEND, THAT MAYBE I SHOULD NOT HAVE
03:33:01 LET THAT WALK-ON COME ON.
03:33:03 MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE WAITED, AND BEEN A SEPARATE MOTION
03:33:06 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
03:33:13 THE CITY ATTORNEY ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE.
03:33:15 AND AGAIN, MY GUT FEELING IS THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH
03:33:20 THE ADMINISTRATION.
03:33:21 WE TRULY DO.
03:33:23 BUT WE ARE IN A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD AGAIN WHERE WE HAVE TO
03:33:27 DEAL WITH THE MUST BE OPINION, DIFFERENT GROUPS,
03:33:30 ADMINISTRATION, UNION.
03:33:32 BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
03:33:33 I FELT LAST WEEK WE WERE IN A SITUATION THAT WAS JABBED
03:33:37 AT US AND WE MADE A DECISION.
03:33:39 WE ALSO KICKED SOME THINGS DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE SAID
03:33:42 WERE NOT A PART OF THAT ORDINANCE.
03:33:44 WE MADE THAT CLEAR.
03:33:44 THIS IS NOTE WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
03:33:46 WE HAVE TO MAKE A -- AND A DECISION FORCED UPON US TO
03:33:50 MAKE.
03:33:50 YOU KNOW, A PERSON WHO LEADS, WHO RANKS FIRST, A PERSON
03:33:58 WHO HAS COMMANDING AUTHORITY, I'M A LEADER AND MAYOR
03:34:03 CASTOR IS THE LEADER OF ADMINISTRATION.
03:34:05 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP, LEADING A GROUP OF PEOPLE
03:34:09 OR ORGANIZATION, I HAVE ALWAYS SAID WE HAVE TWO HOUSES,
03:34:12 WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSE AND WE HAVE GOT A
03:34:15 LEGISLATIVE HOUSE.
03:34:16 AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T AGREE ALL THE TIME, BUT WE CAN
03:34:18 AGREE TO DISAGREE.
03:34:20 WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE COMPROMISES FOR THE CITIZENS OF
03:34:23 THIS CITY.
03:34:26 I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE 17th.
03:34:31 THE MAYOR HAS MADE SOME STATEMENTS ON HOW SHE'S GOING TO
03:34:34 PROCEED RIGHT NOW.
03:34:39 I NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR.
03:34:41 I THINK THAT'S NEEDED TO CLEAR THE AIR.
03:34:44 I WISH JOHN BENNETT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS.
03:34:49 I THINK A LOT OF US BELIEVE IN HIS LEADERSHIP AND I
03:34:52 ALWAYS BELIEVE HE'S BEEN LOYAL AND UPFRONT.
03:34:55 AND FOR SOME REASON HE WAS LEFT OUT OF THIS EQUATION.
03:34:58 I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WHY.
03:35:01 I WANT TO ASK THAT THIS BODY ALLOW ME TO MEET WITH THE
03:35:03 MAYOR AND JOHN BENNETT, MR. SHELBY AND MS. GRIMES, AND WE
03:35:08 TRY TO HASH THIS THING OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY'S SAKE.
03:35:13 I GUESS THE BEST SOLUTION, I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK ON
03:35:15 THE 17th WITH NO SOLUTION, AND WE HAVE A VOTE LIKE
03:35:23 BEFORE AND WE GO TO SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES.
03:35:26 THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY.
03:35:28 WE HAVE HOUSING ISSUES GOING ON, FIRE, FIRE HOUSES THAT
03:35:32 NEED TO BE BOUGHT, AND FOR THIS COUNCIL TO SPEND DOLLARS
03:35:36 ON A LEGAL CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION ATTORNEY,
03:35:41 AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE ADMINISTRATION IS FIGHTING AND
03:35:46 THE CITY ATTORNEY WORKS FOR BOTH OF US.
03:35:48 SO HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
03:35:52 IT WILL COST US MONEY.
03:35:53 AND IT DOES US NO GOOD TO SEE US FIGHT AND NOT GET ALONG.
03:35:57 I DON'T LIKE A DIVIDED HOUSE.
03:35:58 BUT THERE ARE TWO HOUSES.
03:36:00 BUT WE HAVE TO GET ALONG.
03:36:01 SO I AM GOING TO ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE IN THIS MATTER.
03:36:07 I PASS THE GAVEL TO MR. DINGFELDER.
03:36:09 THAT I BE ALLOWED TO TALK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK
03:36:13 AT SOME IDEAS AND WAYS THAT WE CAN COMPROMISE TO BETTER
03:36:17 THIS RELATIONSHIP AND TO BETTER THE SITUATION WITH THE
03:36:19 CRB AS WE GO FORWARD.
03:36:21 MR. MANISCALCO, I SAW YOUR HAND.
03:36:23 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST I WANT TO SAY I COMMEND YOU
03:36:25 FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
03:36:27 I SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
03:36:30 I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN EXTENDING THE OLIVE BRANCH.
03:36:34 TWO QUOTES COME TO MIND.
03:36:36 ONE IS HEMINGWAY, WITH COURAGE IS THE GRACE UNDER
03:36:39 PRESSURE.
03:36:40 AND I THINK YOU KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
03:36:42 ANOTHER IS BY BUKOWSKI, WHICH SAYS WHAT MATTERS MOST IS
03:36:46 HOW WELL YOU WALK THROUGH THE FIRE.
03:36:47 I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE IN A POSITION NOW AS CHAIR, AND I
03:36:50 BELIEVE IN YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW HOW
03:36:55 TO COMMUNICATE AND I HOPE IT GOES WELL.
03:36:57 AND I THINK TALKING CAN RESOLVE A LOT OF THINGS AND YOU
03:37:01 ARE TAKING THAT STEP SO I AM COMMEND YOU ON THAT, SIR.
03:37:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
03:37:07 >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE AS WELL YOUR LEADERSHIP.
03:37:09 I THINK THAT ONE OF THE BIG MISSING THINGS IN POLITICS
03:37:12 TODAY BY AND LARGE IS THE ART OF BRIDGE BUILDING, THE ART
03:37:16 OF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
03:37:17 ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE IN TERMS OF
03:37:22 THEIR POSITIONS.
03:37:23 I THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING YOURSELF TO DO THAT, BECAUSE
03:37:26 A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S A VERY THANKLESS JOB ESPECIALLY IN
03:37:31 TODAY'S POLITICAL ARENA THAT I THINK WE ALL NO ALL TOO
03:37:34 WELL.
03:37:35 BRIDGE BUILDING IS VERY IMPORTANT I.WAS NOT HAPPY WITH
03:37:37 THE WAY THINGS ENDED AT COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT
03:37:40 WE WERE SO CLOSE AND YET SO FAR AWAY WITH LEGAL ISSUES
03:37:45 THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
03:37:47 BUT THIS IS THE A VERY IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE ISSUE.
03:37:51 I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.
03:37:53 AND WE ALSO AGREE THAT IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE ISSUES
03:37:56 SHOULD BE DONE RIGHT AND PROPER WAY.
03:37:58 AND I THINK YOU ARE LEADING IN THAT REGARD.
03:38:00 I THINK THAT FOLLOWING YOUR DISCUSSIONS, CHAIRMAN GUDES,
03:38:04 BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN YOUR LEADERSHIP.
03:38:06 I BELIEVE IN YOUR SINCERITY ON THIS ISSUE AND SO MANY
03:38:10 OTHERS.
03:38:10 WE ARE GOING TO GET A 7-0 VOTE, I BELIEVE, AND WE ARE
03:38:14 GOING TO GET SUPPORT FROM THE EXECUTIVE, AND WE MAY GET
03:38:18 SOMETHING WHERE COMPROMISES ARE MADE, BUT THE TRUTH IS,
03:38:23 AS OUR FRIEND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID, WE AGREE ON 99%
03:38:27 OF STUFF.
03:38:27 THAT 1% IS THE POISON PILL.
03:38:29 AND I DON'T WANT TO DETAIL IT A POISON PILL.
03:38:32 AN ISSUE IN DISPUTE.
03:38:33 THAT'S WHAT'S SO TROUBLING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.
03:38:37 I DON'T THINK -- THE MAIN ISSUE IS COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
03:38:42 THE PRINCIPLE OF CITY COUNCIL IN MY OPINION HAVING A
03:38:45 MAJORITY OF THE APPOINTMENTS IS NOT IN DISPUTE.
03:38:48 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S IN DISPUTE, RIGHT?
03:38:50 IT'S HOW WE GO ABOUT THAT, AND HOW WE GO ABOUT IN THE
03:38:55 THAT REGARD.
03:38:56 THERE'S OTHER ISSUES, AND I HAVE MADE MY OPINION KNOWN,
03:38:58 FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING OUTSIDE ATTORNEY SUPPORTING THAT, BUT
03:39:01 I THINK THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE BASIC ISSUE BUT ON THIS
03:39:06 IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE ISSUE, I SUPPORT YOUR LEAD IN
03:39:09 TRYING TO BUILD THIS IN A FURTHER COLLABORATIVE WAY,
03:39:12 PARTICULARLY WITH MISCOMMUNICATIONS.
03:39:14 AND I THINK THAT'S WATCH THIS REALLY IS ABOUT, IS
03:39:17 MISCOMMUNICATION.
03:39:17 I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
03:39:19 YOU KNOW, THIS DEALS WITH ISSUES THAT I FEEL VERY, VERY
03:39:22 PASSIONATELY ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S ISSUES INVOLVING FIRST
03:39:25 RESPONDERS, RIGHT?
03:39:27 OR WHETHER IT'S ISSUES INVOLVING CIVIL RIGHTS AND HUMAN
03:39:29 RIGHTS AND GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY.
03:39:31 AND I THINK THAT IN THE END WE CAN GET AN ORDINANCE THAT
03:39:35 CAN PASS 7 TO 0.
03:39:38 IN FACT, I DON'T THINK, I KNOW -- I KNOW -- I KNOW.
03:39:42 I KNOW ON MY END I WILL FIGHT FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK I
03:39:47 WILL TAKE THAT AS A FAILURE ON MY END QUITE FRANKLY.
03:39:50 THIS IS A GOOD ORDINANCE.
03:39:52 I HAVE BEEN PROUD TO CONTRIBUTE A LOT OF THINGS TO IT
03:39:54 INCLUDING IDEAS LIKE HAVING THE CRB REPORT TO CITY
03:39:57 COUNCIL, HAVING COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CRB
03:40:01 INCLUDING ATTENDANCE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
03:40:03 AND I THINK YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT REGARD IS REALLY,
03:40:06 REALLY GOOD.
03:40:07 SO I JUST WANT TO ABSOLUTE YOU FOR THAT, MR. CHAIR.
03:40:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, THEN I WILL GO WITH MR.
03:40:13 MIRANDA.
03:40:13 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
03:40:16 AND CONGRATS ON THE WAY YOU SAID THAT.
03:40:19 I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP.
03:40:23 I WON'T GET SOMEWHAT TOO INTO THE WEEDS.
03:40:26 YOU FOUND OUT MONDAY LAST WEEK.
03:40:27 I FOUND OUT THURSDAY.
03:40:29 THURSDAY WAS THE FIRST I KNEW THAT THE MAYOR -- I WAS
03:40:32 TOLD ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT THAT -- HAD A BRIEFING ON
03:40:36 WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT THE MAYOR WAS
03:40:38 NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.
03:40:39 AND I ALSO WAS NOT AWARE UNTIL THURSDAY ABOUT THE CHARTER
03:40:44 CHALLENGES.
03:40:44 SO IF ALL OF YOU WERE BRIEFED, I GUESS I WAS THE ONLY ONE
03:40:48 NOT.
03:40:48 BUT I FELT BLIND-SIDED AND I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH
03:40:51 CHIEF BENNETT LAST NIGHT WHO I AGREE WITH YOU HAS BEEN A
03:40:54 GREAT BROKER AND GETTING TO KNOW MARLEE, I AM SUPPOSED TO
03:40:58 MEET WITH HER TOMORROW, AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE
03:41:01 CONVERSATIONS.
03:41:01 BUT MY ISSUE ABOUT LAST WEEK WAS BEING BLIND-SIDED, AND
03:41:05 ALSO BEING THREATENED WITH CHARTER CHALLENGES.
03:41:07 I THOUGHT THAT MONTHS AGO WE HAD ASKED THE ATTORNEYS, OUR
03:41:10 ATTORNEYS AND THE CITY TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT, AND I
03:41:13 THINK THAT THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT BY THE LAWYERS.
03:41:15 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PLAYED OUT IN THE PUBLIC.
03:41:17 AND I THINK WE SAW THIS MORNING WE HAD A CONVERSATION
03:41:20 ABOUT TOILET TO TAP WHICH I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST AND
03:41:24 OTHER TIMES WHEN I FELT THE PRESENTATION WAS BIASED, I
03:41:27 GOT EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT.
03:41:28 DAY WAS PERFECTLY FINE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS AN
03:41:31 OBJECTIVE PRESENTATION.
03:41:32 AND THE REASON I GET EMOTIONAL IS BECAUSE I THINK THE
03:41:35 PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT, AND DESERVES TO HAVE, THE TRUTH
03:41:39 LAID OUT, AND IF WE KNOW THE TRUTH AND WE HAVE
03:41:43 TRANSPARENCY IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, THEN WE CAN BE HONEST
03:41:46 AND TRUTHFUL AND TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC.
03:41:50 I THINK THERE WERE SOME RED HERRINGS THAT WERE THROWN OUT
03:41:54 IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE LATER IN THE DAY AND WITHOUT
03:41:56 GETTING INTO DETAILS OF IT, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF
03:41:58 ROOM THERE TO FIND SOME KIND OF GREAT SOLUTION, AND I
03:42:02 LOOK FORWARD TO THAT MEETING.
03:42:05 I TOLD EVERYBODY, I THOUGHT I WAS WALKING ON THURSDAY
03:42:08 MORNING LAST WEEK TO APPROVE IT AND WALK AWAY.
03:42:10 I HAD NO IDEA WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BIG CONVERSATION
03:42:13 LIKE THAT.
03:42:13 SO I PRAY FOR YOU AND THE CITY STAFF THAT WE CAN
03:42:17 ACCOMPLISH THAT, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY -- IT SOUND LIKE
03:42:21 ESPECIALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE RESOLUTION ON
03:42:23 IN.
03:42:24 THANK YOU.
03:42:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR
03:42:26 IN REFERENCE TO HOW WE GET THESE THINGS IN THE 9th
03:42:29 HOUR.
03:42:29 I KNOW THINGS HAPPEN, THE CITY HAS TO DO SOME THINGS, BUT
03:42:33 WE FIND OUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE THROWN OUT AT THE
03:42:35 LAST MINUTE AND WE REALLY SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT.
03:42:39 SO I WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH THE MAYOR, AND I THINK ALL
03:42:42 COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE FEELING THAT, AND AGAIN I DON'T
03:42:45 KNOW -- I KNOW THAT MR. BENNETT WAS A GUY WHO IS WAY
03:42:50 AHEAD OF TIME ON THESE.
03:42:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES, AND SOMETHING HAS CHANGED.
03:42:53 AN AND I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE WAY MR. BENNETT WAS
03:42:56 DOING THINGS.
03:42:56 MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
03:42:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
03:42:59 LEADERSHIP.
03:43:00 AND MY FEELING IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL'S
03:43:02 PERMISSION TO GO MEET WITH THE MAYOR AND IRON THINGS OUT.
03:43:05 I REALLY DON'T.
03:43:06 I DON'T THINK -- YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN AND YOU ARE THE ONE
03:43:09 IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE YOU WORK IT OUT WITH
03:43:11 THE ADMINISTRATION, COME BACK.
03:43:13 IF YOU WANT SUPPORT, WE WILL GIVE YOU SUPPORT BUT I DON'T
03:43:15 THINK THAT'S NEEDED.
03:43:16 YOU ARE THE CHAIRPERSON OF THIS COUNCIL.
03:43:17 YOU ARE THE LEADER.
03:43:18 IT'S YOUR TURN AT BAT.
03:43:20 IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM AND THEY WANT TO MEET WITH YOU,
03:43:22 THAT'S FINE.
03:43:23 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING DEROGATORY WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE
03:43:25 SEVEN MEMBERS OR SIX MEMBERS.
03:43:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE CORRECT.
03:43:32 BUT I DO THINGS IN ORDER.
03:43:34 AND I WANT THE COUNCIL TO KNOW WHAT MY INTENT IS GOING
03:43:37 INTO SPEAK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I DON'T WANTS
03:43:41 THIS KIND OF CHAOS ON THIS BODY.
03:43:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE RIGHT.
03:43:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS BODY KNOWS
03:43:48 WHAT I PLAN TO DO. MR. SHELBY, LET ME GET TO MR.
03:43:51 DINGFELDER AND THEN I WILL RECOGNIZE YOU.
03:43:53 >>THE CLERK: IT'S RELATED TO WHAT MR. MIRANDA SAID AND I
03:43:56 THINK IT'S A RELEVANT PART.
03:43:57 I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE MATTERS WHICH SOMETIMES
03:44:00 HAPPENS.
03:44:03 BY YOU BEING DELEGATED SOMETHING TO DO BY CITY COUNCIL,
03:44:07 IT MAY CREATE A SUNSHINE ISSUE.
03:44:10 IT MAY CREATE SOMETHING OF A LEGAL COMPLICATION.
03:44:16 THAT'S THE WAY MR. MIRANDA SUGGESTS.
03:44:19 IF IT'S BY CONSENSUS VOTE OF COUNCIL AND WITHOUT A LEGAL
03:44:23 VOTE AND YOU HAVE -- I CAN CHECK WITH THAT THIS EVENING
03:44:30 AND GET BACK TO YOU.
03:44:31 BUT IN YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE CONSENSUS OF
03:44:34 COUNCIL --
03:44:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE
03:44:37 SO WE HAVE EVERYONE IS SATISFIED AND HAVE FOUR VOTES.
03:44:44 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO TAKE OFF FOR A 4:00 POINT SO
03:44:46 IF YOU WANT TO VOTE, LET'S VOTE.
03:44:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A COUPLE WORDS.
03:44:51 I AM NOT GOING TO REHASH THE LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THAT'S
03:44:55 WHAT IT IS.
03:44:56 BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SORT OF RIDICULED ABOUT THAT.
03:45:00 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF LEGISLATION IN WASHINGTON AND
03:45:04 TALLAHASSEE, LEGISLATION, ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT
03:45:08 LEGISLATION OFTEN TAKES SEVERAL YEARS IN TALLAHASSEE AND
03:45:13 WASHINGTON.
03:45:13 SO THIS WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, THE
03:45:15 FACT THAT IT TOOK A YEAR, SO BE IT.
03:45:19 ONE THING THAT LUIS VIERA SAID LAST WEEK STUCK IN MY
03:45:24 HEAD, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT MR. CHAIRMAN, HAD TO
03:45:27 DO WITH ESCALATION.
03:45:28 AND THIS THING HAS JUST GOTTEN ESCALATED WAY OUT OF
03:45:32 CONTROL, YOU KNOW.
03:45:33 AND NOW WE HAD A MAYOR AT A PRESS CONFERENCE WHO
03:45:36 BASICALLY INSINUATING THAT EVEN IF WE ADOPTED THAT
03:45:40 ORDINANCE, SHE'S GOING TO IGNORE IT?
03:45:42 YOU KNOW, THAT -- WE MIGHT HAVE ESCALATED IT PERHAPS IN
03:45:47 THEIR EYES AND THEY ARE ESCALATING IT EVEN FURTHER.
03:45:49 SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM GOING TO SUPPORT YOU 100% TO GO
03:45:53 TRY AND DEESCALATE THIS.
03:45:55 BUT WE ARE GOING TO DEESCALATE IT WITH DIALOGUE.
03:45:59 THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
03:46:00 BUT THE ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT WE ALL FEEL REAL
03:46:04 STRONGLY ABOUT -- AND I'M SORRY MR. CITRO IS NOT HERE
03:46:07 BECAUSE HE FEELS STRONGLY AS WELL, BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD
03:46:10 HIM SAY IT -- IS THE CLAUSE IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS WE
03:46:13 ARE THE EXCLUSIVE LEGISLATIVE BODY.
03:46:16 THE MAYOR CAN SEND US IDEAS, SHE CAN SEND US PROPOSED
03:46:21 LEGISLATION, ALL DAY LONG, AND THEY DO.
03:46:25 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE THEY THROW THAT LATERAL
03:46:30 BACK TO US, IT'S YOU ARE A BALL TO RUN WITH;
03:46:33 MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:46:34 AND THAT IS A PROMISE THAT WE DO NOT GIVE UP IN ANY
03:46:39 CONTEXT WHATSOEVER.
03:46:40 AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A POLICE ISSUE OR A SEWER ISSUE
03:46:44 OR WHATEVER ISSUE IT IS, OKAY, I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH
03:46:48 THE NOTION THAT JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO DO WITH SOME
03:46:52 PARTICULAR BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S
03:46:55 OFF LIMITS AND THAT WE HAVE TO LEGISLATIVE COOPERATIVELY
03:46:59 WITH ANOTHER BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
03:47:01 THAT IS NOT THE WAY THAT GOVERNMENT WORKS IN THIS
03:47:03 COUNTRY.
03:47:04 AND IT'S NOT THE WAY THAT THAT CHARTER READS.
03:47:07 NOT THE WAY I READ IT.
03:47:08 AND I PRACTICED LAW AS LONG AS ANYBODY UPSTAIRS.
03:47:13 SO I KNOW I SOUND A LITTLE RILED UP, BUT THAT IS A
03:47:17 CRITICAL USUAL YOU THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO STAND
03:47:19 TOGETHER, OKAY, BECAUSE NOT STANDING TOGETHER FOR US,
03:47:24 IT'S NOT STANDING TOGETHER FOR POWER TRIP OR ANYTHING
03:47:27 LIKE THAT.
03:47:27 IT'S STANDING TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S THE SEPARATION OF
03:47:31 POWER.
03:47:31 THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT OF GOVERNMENT.
03:47:33 THEY EXPECT THAT THIS LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY HAPPENS, AND
03:47:37 OVER THERE IS WHERE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART HAPPENS, AND
03:47:40 THEY CARRY OUT OUR LEGISLATION.
03:47:42 SO, ANYWAY, I AM THRILLED YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS,
03:47:46 MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:47:48 I WILL GO WITH IT EITHER WAY, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO
03:47:50 VOTE OR YOU DON'T WANT A VOTE.
03:47:52 YOU HAVE MY VOTE EITHER WAY AND I WILL CARRY THE MOTION.
03:47:55 IF YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, MR. CHAIRMAN?
03:47:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ASK THIS COUNCIL'S PERMISSION TO GO
03:48:02 TALK WITH THE MAYOR, ABOUT CONCERNS, ISSUES SURROUNDING
03:48:06 THE CHARTER ISSUE, AND THE CRB, AND TALK ABOUT THOSE
03:48:09 THINGS AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH
03:48:13 INFORMATION AND A RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD.
03:48:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WILL COME BACK AT A TIME WHEN YOU
03:48:18 DEEM APPROPRIATE?
03:48:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
03:48:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM OUR CHAIRMAN,
03:48:22 AS CHAIR PRO TEM.
03:48:23 SECOND IS WHERE?
03:48:24 MR. MANISCALCO.
03:48:25 ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
03:48:27 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
03:48:29 ANY OPPOSED?
03:48:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GIVE ME A ROLL CALL.
03:48:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:48:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:48:38 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:48:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:48:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
03:48:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:48:47 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH
03:48:49 COUNCILMEMBER CITRO BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:48:51 >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:48:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:48:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:49:03 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:49:04 OPPOSED?
03:49:04 WE ARE ADJOURNED.
03:49:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 6:00, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:49:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 6:00, YES.
03:49:10 [SOUNDING GAVEL]
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