CITY OF TAMPA
THURSDAY, JUNE 3, 2021
9:00 A.M.
DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.
>>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCIL MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER, 9:00.
08:59:41 MR. CITRO, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING,
08:59:45 SIR.
08:59:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:59:47 THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION BY PASTOR GABRIEL MORGAN.
08:59:52 THE PASTOR IS THE PARISH PASTOR OF ST. PAUL LUTHERAN CHURCH
08:59:56 ON CENTRAL AVENUE, AND FAITH LUTHERAN ON NORTH FLORIDA
09:00:00 AVENUE.
09:00:01 HE IS A GRADUATE OF UNION THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN NEW YORK
09:00:08 CITY.
09:00:09 HE RECEIVED HIS MASTERS OF DIVINITY DEGREE THERE AND HOLDS A
09:00:14 DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY DEGREE FROM THE LUTHERAN THEOLOGICAL
09:00:18 SEMINARY OF PHILADELPHIA.
09:00:20 ORIGINALLY FROM TAMPA, GABRIEL WAS ALSO AN ALUM OF THE
09:00:25 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA -- GO BULLS!
09:00:28 -- WITH A BACHELOR OF PHILOSOPHY.
09:00:31 HE AND HIS WIFE ERIN LIVE IN SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:00:36 PASTOR, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND
09:00:38 EVERYBODY COULD PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
09:00:41 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:00:48 >> BLESSED ARE YOU LOVING CREATOR AND GOVERNOR OF THE
09:00:51 UNIVERSE.
09:00:53 YOU'VE WRITTEN YOUR LAW OF LOVE ON EVERY HUMAN HEART, AND
09:00:56 YOU CALL OUT TO ALL PEOPLE THROUGH THE VOICE OF WISDOM IN
09:01:01 MANY RELIGIONS AND PHILOSOPHIES.
09:01:02 GRANT THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY.
09:01:06 THAT THEIR DELIBERATIONS MAY REFLECT YOUR DESIRE FOR THE
09:01:08 PEACE AND WELL-BEING OF ALL.
09:01:10 GRANT THEM A SPIRIT OF LOVE, THAT THEY MIGHT NOT INSIST ON
09:01:13 THEIR OWN WAY BUT INSTEAD HAVE CLARITY ABOUT THE NEEDS OF
09:01:15 THOSE THEY ARE ELECTED TO SERVE.
09:01:18 FINALLY, GRANT EACH OF US YOUR SPIRIT OF HUMILITY SO THAT WE
09:01:21 GROW TO VIEW THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY NOT IN TEMPLES WHAT
09:01:25 WE HAVE ACHIEVED -- TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED BUT IN
09:01:28 TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE SUFFERED.
09:01:30 I ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, THE ONE WHO SUFFERED
09:01:33 FOR OTHERS.
09:01:34 AMEN.
09:01:35 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:01:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PASTOR MORGAN, I THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
09:01:48 YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY.
09:01:49 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:01:50 >> THANK YOU.
09:01:51 GOD BLESS.
09:01:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:01:53 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:01:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:01:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:01:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:01:59 >> VIERA?
09:01:59 MIRANDA?
09:02:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:02:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:02:03 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:02:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
09:02:06 LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA PLEASE, SIR.
09:02:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I BEGIN WITH A FEW COMMENTS, MR.
09:02:11 CHAIRMAN?
09:02:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, YOU MAY.
09:02:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TODAY'S MEETING IS HELD DURING THE COVID-19
09:02:17 STATE OF EMERGENCY, AND IT'S BEING CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE
09:02:20 IN-PERSON QUORUM OF THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL
09:02:22 CHAMBERS.
09:02:23 HOWEVER, IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS, MEMBERS
09:02:27 OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY
09:02:29 THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA
09:02:32 STATUTES AND RULES AS COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, OR
09:02:35 CMT.
09:02:36 THESE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY
09:02:39 RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION
09:02:41 NUMBER 2020-229 AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020-490 AND
09:02:48 RESOLUTION 2021-241.
09:02:51 THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO
09:02:54 WATCH, LISTEN, AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL
09:02:56 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND ON THE INTERNET AT
09:03:01 TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:03:04 THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE THROUGH
09:03:07 MULTIPLE MEANS IN THIS MEETING, WRITTEN COMMENTS, BY THE
09:03:11 INTERNET OR WEB, WRITTEN COMMENTS BY E-MAIL.
09:03:14 WRITTEN COMMENTS BY U.S. MAIL.
09:03:17 ALSO, TO SPEAK REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE
09:03:20 OF CMT, AND THAT REQUIRES PREREGISTERING, AND THAT IS
09:03:25 AVAILABLE AT TAMPA.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT.
09:03:29 AND THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEB PAGE,
09:03:32 THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL, ONE
09:03:36 WORD.
09:03:37 NOW, FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE
09:03:41 REMOTELY, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC
09:03:45 DURING THIS MEETING COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY ON THE
09:03:49 SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
09:03:53 AND PLEASE NOTE THAT THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
09:03:57 INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.
09:03:59 NOW, THERE ARE LAND USE HEARINGS TODAY, AND THOSE REQUIRE,
09:04:03 IF YOU WISH TO APPEAR REMOTELY, WILL REQUIRE PREREGISTRATION
09:04:09 PRIOR TO TODAY.
09:04:10 NOW, THE COMMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO A PUBLIC HEARING WILL
09:04:14 BE HEARD WHEN IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA.
09:04:17 ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS MUST BE RECEIVED NO LATER THAN 24 HOURS
09:04:21 PRIOR TO THE HEARING TO BE DISTRIBUTED TIMELY TO CITY
09:04:23 COUNCIL AND MADE PART OF THE PERMANENT RECORD OF
09:04:25 QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.
09:04:26 NOW, PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED TIMELY BY MAIL, E-MAIL, WEB,
09:04:29 OR VIA CMT WILL BE AFFORDED EQUAL CONSIDERATION AS IF THE
09:04:33 PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE IN PERSON.
09:04:35 FINALLY, FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE PARTICIPATING
09:04:40 ON THE VIRTUAL PLATFORM, GO TO MEETING, PLEASE BE REMINDED
09:04:44 THAT THE CHAT BOX IS NOT TO BE USED FOR COMMUNICATIONS WITH
09:04:49 MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:04:51 ITS ONLY PURPOSE IS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS TECHNICAL ISSUES.
09:04:54 SO, AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE CHAT BOX
09:04:59 EXCEPT TO REPORT TECHNICAL CONCERNS.
09:05:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:05:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
09:05:04 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, FOR NOTATION, MR. VIERA WILL BE HERE IN
09:05:08 ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
09:05:09 FOR THE RECORD, HE WILL BE HERE.
09:05:10 LET'S GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE
09:05:12 ADDENDUM, PLEASE?
09:05:14 WALK-ON ITEM BY COUNCILMAN CITRO, ACCOMMODATION.
09:05:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA
09:05:29 PER DIRECTION OF THE CHAIR.
09:05:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:05:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, I BELIEVE THERE IS A REQUEST FROM
09:05:37 COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO TO REMOVE ITEM -- EXCUSE ME, TO
09:05:43 PULL ITEM 30 FOR DISCUSSION UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:05:49 IS THAT CORRECT?
09:05:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
09:05:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 28 IS A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN
09:05:58 FILED WITH THE CLERK.
09:06:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:06:02 GENTLEMEN, JUST A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
09:06:05 IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION IN REFERENCE TO SOME COUNCIL
09:06:09 MEMBERS GRUMBLING A LITTLE BIT AND ALSO THE CLERK'S OFFICE,
09:06:14 MR. SHELBY, IN REFERENCE TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AS IT
09:06:17 RELATES TO INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL'S BUSINESS FOR CITY
09:06:21 COUNCIL MEETING.
09:06:22 I HAVE ASKED MR. SHELBY TO LET US KNOW WHAT THE RULE IS ON
09:06:26 THAT SO IF YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THAT NOW, MR. SHELBY,
09:06:29 PLEASE.
09:06:30 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:06:31 THANK YOU.
09:06:32 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:06:34 CHAIRMAN GUDES IS MAKING REFERENCE TO RULE 7A UNDER YOUR
09:06:39 GENERAL POLICIES OF RULES OF PROCEDURE, AND IT STATES AS
09:06:43 FOLLOWS: ALL PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, STAFF REPORTS,
09:06:46 RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS INTENDED FOR THE
09:06:51 CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE FILED WITH THE
09:06:54 OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK ON OR BEFORE 2 P.M. ON THE THURSDAY
09:06:58 PRIOR TO THE MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:07:01 THE CITY CLERK IN TURN SHALL ASSIGN SUCH PETITIONS,
09:07:04 COMMUNICATIONS, RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES, AND OTHER MATTERS
09:07:06 TO THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT WITHIN THE AGENDA TAKING
09:07:10 INTO CONSIDERATION THE REQUEST MADE AT THE TIME OF PLACEMENT
09:07:12 ON THE AGENDA.
09:07:14 ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO FEES ARE TO BE PLACED
09:07:18 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:07:19 THAT IS THE RULE, SIR.
09:07:20 7A.
09:07:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:07:24 AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
09:07:29 I'LL HAVE TO PASS THE GAVEL.
09:07:31 MR. DINGFELDER.
09:07:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
09:07:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL, REQUEST THE
09:07:38 ADMINISTRATION TO HEAR THE RULE 7A MOVING FORWARD,
09:07:41 INCLUDING PowerPoint PRESENTATIONS THAT SUPPORT CITY
09:07:43 COUNCIL IN HAVING TIMELY INFORMATION PRIOR TO ITS MEETINGS
09:07:46 FOR DISCUSSION, DELIBERATIONS AND DECISIONS.
09:07:49 IF I CAN GET A SECOND.
09:07:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION AND A SECOND.
09:07:53 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
09:07:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.
09:08:00 I HAVE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE ALTHOUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS
09:08:03 ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, I HAVE TO
09:08:05 READ IT ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
09:08:07 SOMETIMES I HAVE TO READ IT TWICE.
09:08:08 LIKE NUMBER 28 WAS CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY YESTERDAY.
09:08:11 I THINK AT LIKE 4:00.
09:08:14 IF ANY OF US HAD EVENTS ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, IT WOULD BE
09:08:17 DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT IT.
09:08:18 BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S ABOUT TRANSPARENCY FOR THE
09:08:20 PUBLIC.
09:08:21 LAST WEEK, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION ON TOILET TO TAP, AND IT
09:08:24 WASN'T HERE UNTIL WAY LATE, AND THERE WASN'T EVEN AN AGENDA
09:08:28 ITEM FOR IT.
09:08:28 SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO
09:08:31 INFORMATION.
09:08:31 THANK YOU.
09:08:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY UNDERSTANDING, YEARS AGO, MR. MIRANDA
09:08:35 WAS CHAIR, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, MR. MIRANDA WAS A STICKLER
09:08:37 ON GETTING THOSE ITEMS IN A TIMELY FASHION, I'VE HEARD.
09:08:41 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADHERING TO THE POLICY.
09:08:45 WE KNOW SOMETIMES THERE WILL BE SITUATIONS AND WE CAN LOOK
09:08:48 AT THOSE SITUATIONS AS THEY ARISE.
09:08:50 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS BEING ABLE TO
09:08:52 DO THEIR JOB AS WELL.
09:08:54 GET A LITTLE FRUSTRATED OVER THERE.
09:08:56 SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THIS
09:09:00 HOUSE.
09:09:00 I THINK, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
09:09:02 BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY MR. CARLSON.
09:09:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
09:09:06 NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
09:09:07 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
09:09:08 ANY OPPOSED?
09:09:09 MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
09:09:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT,
09:09:14 PLEASE, SIR?
09:09:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:09:16 MADAM CLERK.
09:09:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:09:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:09:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:09:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:09:24 >> VIERA?
09:09:25 MIRANDA?
09:09:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:09:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:09:27 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
09:09:30 ABSENT.
09:09:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
09:09:33 WE HAVE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.
09:09:36 I ALREADY SEE THE YOUNG LADY FROM THE ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES
09:09:39 ARE ALREADY INSIDE THE ROOM.
09:09:42 IF YOU DON'T MIND, GENTLEMEN, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2 AND
09:09:45 THEN COME BACK TO 1 AND THEN 3 FOR CITRO.
09:09:48 MR. MIRANDA.
09:09:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAVING TIME I'M GOING TO FOLLOW COUNCILMAN
09:10:01 MIRANDA DOWN THERE.
09:10:02 WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM.
09:10:03 I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:10:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN THOSE ACADEMY GIRLS HEAR US IN THERE.
09:10:09 LET'S SEE SOME ENTHUSIASM, GIRLS!
09:10:14 [ CHEERING ]
09:10:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SAW YOU GUYS OUTSIDE AND IT LOOKED LIKE
09:10:20 YOU WERE HAVING A GOOD TIME.
09:10:21 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:10:24 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I NEED TO GO DOWN IN A MINUTE.
09:10:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL WAIT UNTIL MR. MIRANDA COMES UP AND
09:10:30 YOU CAN GO DOWN SO WE KEEP A QUORUM.
09:10:32 JUST HOLD ON, COACH.
09:10:34 WE'RE WAITING FOR MR. MIRANDA TO GET DOWN THERE TO DO WHAT
09:10:38 HE DOES BEST.
09:10:39 I SEE HIM IN THE MIDDLE THERE.
09:10:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOOD MORNING.
09:10:57 IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO BE HERE WITH THE CHAMPIONS
09:11:01 OF THE 2021 SOFTBALL SEASON 3-A CHAMPIONSHIP FROM THE
09:11:06 ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES.
09:11:07 THEIR SCHOOL IS ONE OF GREAT LEGEND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
09:11:12 ACADEMIA, AND STARTED IN 1881 UNDER MAYOR NAMED GEORGE
09:11:17 BOSCOM SPARKMAN WHO WAS THE MAYOR AND HE CUT THE RIBBON.
09:11:21 AND I WAS THERE HOLDING THE RIBBON.
09:11:22 MR. VARGAS, I'VE KNOWN YOU SINCE YOU WERE A LITTLE YOUNG
09:11:26 BOY.
09:11:26 AND YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR FATHER WERE TEAMMATES OF MINE IN
09:11:30 HIGH SCHOOL AND YOUR FATHER HAD THE DISTINCTION OF CATCHING
09:11:33 MY FIRST PITCH IN CUBA THAT THEY HIT FOR A HOME RUN.
09:11:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW YOU WERE THE LEGEND.
09:11:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COOL, YOU HAVE TO ADMIT.
09:11:41 LET ME SAY THIS, I KNOW THAT YOUR SCHOOL PRINCIPAL IS NOT
09:11:45 HERE TODAY.
09:11:46 STEPHANIE, AND I TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MR. SPARKMAN AND MR.
09:11:51 VARGAS, I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANT TO PLAY THE VIDEO
09:11:54 FIRST SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE HERE
09:11:59 AND HOW THEY GOT HERE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY INCREDIBLE.
09:12:02 AND WHAT THESE YOUNG LADIES HAVE DONE CANNOT BE DUPLICATED.
09:12:06 ONLY BY THEM.
09:12:07 CAN YOU PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO?
09:12:11 >> WE CAME INTO THE INNING DOWN --
09:12:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S REPLAY THAT AGAIN SO MR. VARGAS CAN
09:12:28 NARRATE WHAT HAPPENED.
09:12:30 >> WE CAME DOWN IN THAT INNING, DOWN A RUN, AND IT WAS A
09:12:34 TIGHT GAME THROUGHOUT.
09:12:36 WE WERE GOING UP AGAINST A WINDEMERE PREP TEAM THAT HAD BEEN
09:12:39 25 AND 1 BUT DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PLAY A TEAM LIKE US
09:12:43 YET.
09:12:43 COMING INTO THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE 7th INNING AFTER DOWN
09:12:46 3-2, THE CONFIDENCE THE COACHING STAFF AND THE GIRLS HAD AND
09:12:49 BEING ABLE TO COME OUT, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE IT WAS GOING TO
09:12:52 HAPPEN.
09:12:53 IT WAS WITHOUT A DOUBT.
09:12:54 SO THE CONFIDENCE OF THE KIDS AND THE COACHING STAFF REALLY
09:12:57 PAID OFF, AND, OBVIOUSLY, THE EXECUTION OF THAT REALLY WAS
09:13:02 THE KEY.
09:13:03 BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CELEBRATION LIKE THAT IN ACADEMY SINCE
09:13:06 1996.
09:13:08 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE END RESULT HERE, IT WAS INCREDIBLY
09:13:11 SPECIAL MOMENT AND ONE THAT WE'LL NEVER FORGET AS ATHLETIC
09:13:15 DEPARTMENT, AS A COACHING STAFF OR, OBVIOUSLY, AS A GROUP OF
09:13:18 YOUNG LADIES WHO WILL BE ENTRENCHED IN HISTORY TOGETHER FOR
09:13:22 THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
09:13:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN SEE WHY AND HOW, NOT ABOUT THE
09:13:41 INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERISTICS OR THE ABILITY OF EACH PLAYER, IT
09:13:44 IS THE ABILITY AND CHARACTERISTIC TO MAKE A TEAM TO WIN THE
09:13:47 GAME.
09:13:48 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BY EVIDENCE HERE HOW THERE WAS A LITTLE
09:13:51 MISTAKE MADE ON THE FIELD BY THE OPPOSITION AND THAT RUNNER
09:13:54 NOTICED THAT AND KEPT HEADING FOR HOME AND BEAT THE THROW.
09:13:57 THAT'S WHAT WINNING AND LOSING IS ALL ABOUT.
09:13:59 WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WINNER AND A LOSER?
09:14:04 A LOSER FALLS AND NEVER GETS UP.
09:14:06 A WINNER FALLS AND GETS UP.
09:14:10 AND IF HE OR SHE FALLS AGAIN, THEY GET UP AGAIN AND KEEP
09:14:14 TRYING.
09:14:14 AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU ARE A WINNER, YOU HAVE
09:14:17 FALLEN BEFORE, AND YOU GET UP AND GO OUT AND DO WHAT YOU
09:14:20 HAVE TO DO.
09:14:21 THAT'S WHAT THESE YOUNG LADIES ACCOMPLISHED.
09:14:25 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:14:26 NOW FOR THE CERTIFICATES THAT WE HAVE HERE.
09:14:33 THE FIRST ONE TO KEVIN VARGAS, THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR.
09:14:37 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:14:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH PINS JUST FOR THE
09:14:43 TEAM.
09:14:44 THOSE PINS ARE ABOUT 40 YEARS OLD.
09:14:46 WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY IN A LONG TIME.
09:14:48 I DON'T KNOW HOW MARY FOUND THEM, BUT SHE FOUND THEM.
09:14:51 THE HEAD COACH, JEFF CROOM.
09:14:58 DO YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
09:14:59 I KNOW THE MIKE GETS YOU SCARED.
09:15:05 WE MUST BE RELATED.
09:15:07 [ LAUGHTER ]
09:15:07 ASSISTANT COACH MICHAEL VALDEZ.
09:15:20 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:15:20 ELISE COURTNEY.
09:15:24 SAMANTHA MILLER.
09:15:29 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:15:29 SAMANTHA, CAN YOU COME UP FOR A SECOND?
09:15:34 SAMANTHA IS A UNIQUE PLAYER THAT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.
09:15:40 SHE GOT A SCHOLARSHIP AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY.
09:15:43 I CAN'T EVEN SPELL THE WORD "GEORGETOWN."
09:15:46 SAMANTHA NOT ONLY GOT A SCHOLARSHIP, SHE WAS A STAR ATHLETE
09:15:49 A YEAR BEFORE SHE GRADUATED AS A SENIOR.
09:15:52 AS I RECALL FROM WHAT I'VE READ -- NOT THAT I RECALL IT, I
09:15:56 READ IT.
09:15:57 YOU WERE DOING VIDEO GRAPHING AND UNDERSTANDING UNIVERSITY
09:16:01 OF GEORGETOWN.
09:16:03 YOU WERE TAKING YOUR FIRST CLASS AT HOME.
09:16:05 HOWEVER, YOU FELT YOU HAD TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO THE
09:16:08 TEAM, SO YOU WENT BACK AND BECAME AN ASSISTANT COACH WHILE
09:16:11 GOING TO COLLEGE AT THE SAME TIME A THOUSAND MILES AWAY FROM
09:16:15 YOUR SCHOOL.
09:16:16 AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE YOU GOT PAID FOR IT.
09:16:18 YOU'RE DOING IT BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO GIVE BACK FROM WHAT
09:16:22 YOU LEARNED.
09:16:23 THANK GOD.
09:16:24 LOOK AT ALL THESE PLAYERS THAT LEARNED SOMETHING FROM YOU
09:16:26 AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOU TO SIT OUT A YEAR BECAUSE OF
09:16:29 COVID-19 AND COME BACK AND GO COACH EXACTLY WHERE YOU
09:16:32 PLAYED.
09:16:32 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
09:16:33 >> THANK YOU.
09:16:33 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THE TEAM SUPPORTS THAT, FOR DONALD
09:16:40 SHAFER, KRISTA SEVRINI.
09:16:45 THANK YOU.
09:16:47 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:16:47 THIS IS THE FIRST CHAMPIONSHIP SINCE 1996.
09:16:53 THERE WERE ONLY THREE OTHER CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THE SCHOOL'S
09:16:56 140 YEARS OF BEING THERE.
09:16:58 ONE WAS IN BASKETBALL IN 1996.
09:17:04 AND THE LADY WHO WAS ON THAT STAFF IS NOW WHAT?
09:17:07 WHERE IS SHE AT?
09:17:08 I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
09:17:15 SHE WAS A STAR BASKETBALL PLAYER IN 1996.
09:17:19 CHARISSE.
09:17:20 SHE IS NOW THE HEAD OF WHAT?
09:17:22 >> PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
09:17:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE YOU
09:17:26 WORK.
09:17:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE JOB YOU'RE DOING.
09:17:30 YOU'VE BEEN DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.
09:17:32 I WANT YOU TO PLAY JOHN BENNETT ONE DAY BECAUSE I KNOW YOU
09:17:34 CAN BEAT HIM.
09:17:36 >> ABSOLUTELY.
09:17:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE WANT WITNESSES TO BE THERE, TOO.
09:17:40 THE OTHER WAS IN VOLLEYBALL BACK IN 1970.
09:17:46 THIS IS THE FIRST EVER THAT THE SCHOOL FROM 140 YEARS IN
09:17:50 EXISTENCE HAS WON A CHAMPIONSHIP IN SOFTBALL, LADIES'
09:17:54 SOFTBALL.
09:17:55 IT'S A MARVELOUS THING, NOT BECAUSE YOU WON IT, BUT BECAUSE
09:18:00 YOU PLAYED AS A TEAM AND THE RESULTS ARE THERE.
09:18:02 15 LADIES ON THE TEAM.
09:18:04 SEVEN ARE SENIORS.
09:18:05 IF WE COULD HAVE THE SENIORS COME UP AND WE'LL GIVE THE --
09:18:10 WHEN YOU COME UP, SAY YOUR NAME AND WHAT COLLEGE YOU'RE
09:18:13 GOING TO.
09:18:14 >> I'LL START.
09:18:15 I'M DEVON.
09:18:15 GOING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
09:18:19 >> I'M CHASE.
09:18:20 I'M GOING TO FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY.
09:18:23 >> I'M ZADA.
09:18:25 GOING TO ST. MARY'S NOTRE DAME.
09:18:28 >> I'M AUDREY.
09:18:29 I'M GOING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA.
09:18:32 >> I'M RACHEL.
09:18:33 AND I'M GOING TO PROVIDENCE COLLEGE.
09:18:37 >> I'M BELLHAM GOING TO FLORIDA SOUTHWESTERN.
09:18:40 >> I'M KEIRA, GOING TO VILLANOVA UNIVERSITY.
09:18:47 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:18:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS MAKES A VERY WELL FEELING THAT NOT
09:18:51 ONLY ARE THEY GREAT ATHLETES, THEY ARE ALSO VERY
09:18:54 ECONOMICALLY PREPARED FOR WHAT'S COMING, THE WORLD THEY ARE
09:18:58 GOING TO FACE.
09:18:59 NOW THE REST OF THE TEAM, PLEASE.
09:19:00 THESE ARE NOT THE REST OF THE TEAM.
09:19:02 THEY ARE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE SENIORS.
09:19:13 >> I'M LUCY.
09:19:15 I'M A JUNIOR.
09:19:17 >> I'M AMBER TORRES.
09:19:18 I'M A SOPHOMORE.
09:19:21 >> I'M KAVIN THIES, AND I'M A SOPHOMORE.
09:19:24 >> MAZY AND I'M A FRESHMAN.
09:19:26 >> I'M GENEVIEVE.
09:19:28 I'M A SOPHOMORE.
09:19:29 >> I'M KAYLA, A FRESHMAN.
09:19:33 >> CAMILLE, A FRESHMAN.
09:19:35 >> I'M CHLOE.
09:19:36 I'M A FRESHMAN.
09:19:42 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:19:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FRESHMAN AND A
09:19:47 SENIOR IS WE'RE IN A ROOM SO SMALL, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE
09:19:50 SOPHOMORES BY THE TIME WE LEAVE.
09:19:52 THEY ARE GOING TO GO BACKWARDS IN LIFE.
09:19:54 THE ROOM IS KIND OF SMALL FOR THESE PEOPLE.
09:19:58 APPRECIATE IT.
09:19:59 THIS TEAM PLAYED 24 GAMES, 7 PLAYOFF GAMES, 14 CONSECUTIVE
09:20:05 WINS AS CHAMPIONSHIPS.
09:20:07 AND IT'S AMAZING THAT THEY HAD A REAL TOUGH SCHEDULE.
09:20:11 EVERYONE CONTRIBUTED ON EACH PLAY, AND AMAZING WORK ETHIC
09:20:15 SUPPORTED ADMINISTRATIVE COACHES AND PARENTS AND THEY HAD A
09:20:17 CHAMPIONSHIP.
09:20:21 HOWEVER, CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WINNER
09:20:24 AND A LOSER IN SOFTBALL?
09:20:27 I JUST GAVE YOU THE ANSWER EARLIER.
09:20:30 >> A WINNER FALLS AND DOESN'T -- OR A LOSER FALLS AND
09:20:34 DOESN'T GET UP.
09:20:35 AND A WINNER WILL GET UP --
09:20:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXACTLY RIGHT.
09:20:39 NOW, ANYONE ELSE?
09:20:42 COACH, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
09:20:44 ATHLETIC DIRECTOR?
09:20:45 >> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL.
09:20:47 THAT'S IT.
09:20:48 I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR INVITING US DOWN
09:20:50 HERE TODAY.
09:20:52 OBVIOUSLY, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED, THIS IS HISTORIC
09:20:55 FEAT FOR OUR SCHOOL AND ONE THAT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF
09:20:58 PRIDE IN.
09:20:59 ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THESE YOUNG
09:21:03 LADIES AND OUR COACHING STAFF DIDN'T ONLY MAKE THE ACADEMY
09:21:06 OF THE HOLY NAMES PROUD, THEY MADE THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA
09:21:09 PROUD.
09:21:10 WE'RE HONORED TO BRING THE CITY OF TAMPA OUR MOST RECENT
09:21:14 CHAMPIONSHIP.
09:21:15 ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HONORING US AND CONGRATULATIONS TO
09:21:17 OUR 2021, 3A STATE CHAMPIONS.
09:21:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
09:21:26 AGAIN, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:21:28 NOT BECAUSE YOU WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, BUT HOW YOU WON
09:21:31 IT AND HOW HARD YOU WORKED FOR IT.
09:21:33 IF YOU DO THAT IN LIFE, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE
09:21:35 SUCCESSFUL.
09:21:35 KEEP TRYING AND YOU'LL GET THERE.
09:21:37 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY COUNCIL, FOR ALLOWING US.
09:21:39 I WANT TO THANK THE PARENTS THAT ARE DOWN STAIRS FOR MAKING
09:21:43 WONDERFUL KIDS LIKE THIS ONE HERE.
09:21:45 BROUGHT THEM UP IN A GREAT ATMOSPHERE AND AN AREA THAT YOU
09:21:48 UNDERSTAND ABOUT LIFE.
09:21:49 AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
09:21:51 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PARENTS.
09:21:52 APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
09:22:01 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY
09:22:04 COLLEAGUE AND THANK ALL OF YOU AND CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THE
09:22:06 BIG WIN.
09:22:06 THANKS ALSO TO CHARISSE HILLS FOR LEADING THE WAY AND ALSO
09:22:11 FOR HER LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY.
09:22:13 THOSE OF YOU SENIORS MENTIONED YOUR CREDENTIALS AND WHERE
09:22:16 YOU'RE GOING TO SCHOOL.
09:22:17 VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE.
09:22:19 I THINK ALL OF US WERE IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
09:22:21 CONGRATS ALSO TO THE PARENTS THAT HAVE RAISED ALL OF YOU ALL
09:22:24 TO BE SMART AND SUCCESSFUL.
09:22:25 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU
09:22:29 SMART AND SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE TO COME BACK TO TAMPA.
09:22:32 I THINK ALMOST ALL OF YOU ARE STUDYING OUTSIDE OF TAMPA.
09:22:35 IN TWO OR THREE YEARS, AS YOU'RE GETTING READY TO GRADUATE
09:22:38 OR DURING THE SUMMERS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF
09:22:41 THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY IN TAMPA FOR YOU, PLEASE LET US
09:22:44 KNOW.
09:22:44 WE'RE ALL CONNECTED AND WE NEED INTERNS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:22:47 AND WE CAN HELP YOU IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:22:49 WHATEVER YOUR INTEREST IS, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR
09:22:51 YOU IN TAMPA.
09:22:52 AND TO THE PARENTS IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE RECRUITING THEM
09:22:55 BACK, PLEASE LET US KNOW BECAUSE THESE ARE THE KIND OF
09:22:58 PEOPLE WE NEED TO COME TO TAMPA TO START BUSINESSES AND MAKE
09:23:01 OUR COMMUNITY THRIVE.
09:23:02 CONGRATS AGAIN FOR YOUR SUCCESS.
09:23:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
09:23:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND YOUNG
09:23:09 LADIES, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:23:11 AWESOME ACCOMPLISHMENT.
09:23:13 I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN WITH YOU GUYS EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T
09:23:18 BEEN TO ONE GAME, BUT JOHN BENNETT, WHO I THINK IS HANGING
09:23:23 AROUND OUT THERE.
09:23:25 WHICH ONE IS HIS DAUGHTER?
09:23:27 THERE SHE IS.
09:23:29 ANYWAY, JOHN BENNETT HAS BEEN KEEPING US POSTED GAME BY
09:23:34 GAME.
09:23:35 I COULDN'T BELIEVE HE WAS SO EXCITED AT YOUR WIN.
09:23:41 AND WE WERE, TOO.
09:23:42 ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES HAS AN AMAZING HISTORY OF ACADEMICS
09:23:46 AND ALSO SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:23:50 SOME OF THE YOUNG LADIES AT YOUR SCHOOL ARE INVOLVED WITH
09:23:53 MR. CITRO AND MYSELF WITH OUR ROTARY CLUB.
09:23:56 I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS DO THE ROTARY, THE YOUTH
09:24:00 ROTARY PROGRAM, BUT GREAT SERVICE YOU PROVIDE BACK TO THE
09:24:04 COMMUNITY AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR BIG WIN.
09:24:08 THANK YOU.
09:24:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO IS IN THE BACK THERE.
09:24:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:24:13 LADIES, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON YOUR WONDERFUL YEAR.
09:24:16 BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THE ONES THAT HAVE TAUGHT YOU HOW TO
09:24:20 PLAY THE GAME.
09:24:21 CONGRATULATIONS, LADIES.
09:24:22 >> THANK YOU.
09:24:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHERE IS THE COACH AT?
09:24:25 HEAD COACH.
09:24:27 COACH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO BE A COACH, TO COACH FOR
09:24:38 MANY, MANY YEARS IN YOUTH ATHLETICS.
09:24:45 PROGRAMS I PUT TOGETHER, YOUTH FOOTBALL, SOME BASEBALL
09:24:45 PROGRAMS.
09:24:46 I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO BE A COACH.
09:24:49 BUT I UNDERSTAND THE FEELING OF BEING A CHAMPION.
09:24:52 IT IS THE MOST EXCITING FEELING THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO COACH
09:24:55 YOUNG PEOPLE.
09:24:57 THEY LISTEN TO YOU.
09:25:01 INSPIRE TO BE THE BEST.
09:25:05 AT THE END, THEY HAVE A CHAMPIONSHIP.
09:25:06 NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE THEM AWAY.
09:25:08 SOMETHING YOU CAN NEVER, EVER TAKE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE
09:25:11 RECORD BOOKS.
09:25:13 YOU'RE A CHAMPION.
09:25:14 THE SCHOOL IS A CHAMPION.
09:25:15 THE PARENTS ARE A CHAMPION.
09:25:16 I MY GOOD FRIEND, PRINCIPAL DELIA GADSON, THE PRINCIPAL AT
09:25:29 SHEEHY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, TALKS ABOUT THE GREAT PROFESSORS
09:25:33 AT THE SCHOOL.
09:25:34 I LOOK AT OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, MS. HILLS, WHO IS A BASKETBALL
09:25:39 CHAMPION HERSELF.
09:25:40 I JUST LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE SCHOOL.
09:25:42 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP WITH THESE YOUNG
09:25:45 LADIES.
09:25:45 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL AND TO YOUR PARENTS.
09:25:47 GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
09:25:49 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:25:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:25:52 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:25:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
09:25:57 WE'LL GO TO ITEM --
09:25:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE DISMISSED.
09:26:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE MR. CITRO DOWN THERE.
09:26:07 WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3 SINCE HE'S DOWN THERE.
09:26:10 THEN MR. CARLSON WILL GO DOWN THERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:26:16 ONCE SHE CLEANS THE LECTERN, ITEM NUMBER 3, MR. CITRO HAS
09:26:54 THE WALK-ON.
09:27:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:27:06 AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A GIRLS RULE KIND OF DAY.
09:27:10 I WANT TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I AM SO PROUD OF THIS YOUNG
09:27:14 LADY, BUT I AM ALSO JEALOUS OF THIS YOUNG LADY.
09:27:19 THIS IS MS. ELYSE MEERDINK.
09:27:26 DID I SAY IT CORRECTLY?
09:27:27 WONDERFUL.
09:27:28 SHE WENT UP TO AUGUSTA NATIONAL.
09:27:32 NOW, IF NO ONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS ABOUT AUGUSTA NATIONAL,
09:27:36 THAT IS WHERE THE MASTERS PLAY.
09:27:39 AND JUST FOR THIS YOUNG LADY TO SINK A PUTT ON THE 18th
09:27:43 HOLE, AGAIN, I AM SO JEALOUS.
09:27:45 SHE WAS THE WINNER OF THE DRIVE, CHIP, AND PUTT NATIONAL
09:27:56 FINALS AGAIN IN AUGUSTA, GEORGIA, AT THE MASTERS, WHERE THE
09:27:59 MASTERS IS PLAYED, FOR THE GIRLS AGES 10 AND 11 DIVISION FOR
09:28:04 THIS LAST YEAR.
09:28:05 NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF HER STATS.
09:28:09 HER DRIVE.
09:28:12 HER FIRST ATTEMPT WAS 227 YARDS.
09:28:17 HER SECOND ATTEMPT WAS 226 YARDS.
09:28:20 WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS YOUNG LADY IS ONLY 11 YEARS
09:28:26 OLD.
09:28:27 I DOUBT THERE'S ANY MEMBERS ON COUNCIL THAT COULD HIT IT
09:28:30 MUCH PAST HER.
09:28:31 HER CHIPS WERE -- ONE WAS A LITTLE OVER TWO FOOT.
09:28:36 ONE WAS A LITTLE OVER EIGHT FOOT.
09:28:38 HER PUTTS, HER FIRST PUTT AND, AGAIN, THE GREENS AT AUGUSTA
09:28:43 NATIONAL ARE LIKE PUTTING ON A BASKETBALL COURT.
09:28:47 LIGHTNING FAST.
09:28:48 FIRST PUTT WENT BY 8-FOOT.
09:28:50 I WATCHED THE VIDEOS.
09:28:52 YOU COULD SEE THERE WAS A LITTLE SHAKING IN HER EYES IN HOW
09:28:55 FAST THE GREENS WERE, BUT SHE SUNK HER SECOND PUTT IN ONE
09:29:00 PUTT.
09:29:01 AGAIN, I AM AMAZED AT THIS YOUNG LADY, AND I KNOW THAT GREAT
09:29:08 THINGS ARE GOING TO COME FROM HER.
09:29:12 AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY I ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE THIS
09:29:15 COMMENDATION.
09:29:18 IT IS PRESENTED TO MS. ELYSE MEERDINK, THE 2021 NATIONAL
09:29:22 DRIVE, CHIP AND PUTT CHAMPION.
09:29:26 THE CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDS YOU ON YOUR FIRST-PLACE WIN AT
09:29:30 THE GIRLS 10 AND 11 AGE DIVISION AT THE 2021 DRIVE, CHIP AND
09:29:36 PUTT NATIONAL FINALS AT AUGUSTA, GEORGIA.
09:29:39 YOUR PERSISTENCE, DEDICATION, COMPOSURE HAS SERVED YOU WELL
09:29:43 ON THE GOLF COURSE AND WILL SERVE YOU WELL IN LIFE.
09:29:48 WE CELEBRATE YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE LEGACY OF CHAMPIONS
09:29:51 FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:29:52 IT IS WITH PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENT YOU,
09:29:57 ELYSE MEERDINK WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 3rd DAY OF
09:30:01 JUNE, 2021.
09:30:05 [ APPLAUSE ]
09:30:06 NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM
09:30:14 HER.
09:30:16 COME STAND UP HERE.
09:30:18 WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND WHEN YOU MISSED -- SORRY --
09:30:21 WHEN YOU MISSED THAT FIRST PUTT AND YOU HAD TO STEP BACK AND
09:30:24 GAIN COMPOSURE TO MAKE THE SECOND PUTT?
09:30:26 >> WELL, WHEN I HIT THE PUTT, I KNEW THAT IT WAS PROBABLY
09:30:30 TOO HARD.
09:30:30 AND I WAS JUST HOPING IT WOULDN'T GO TOO FAR BY BECAUSE
09:30:34 BEFORE I HIT MY FIRST PUTT, I LOOKED UP AT THE SCOREBOARD
09:30:38 AND I SAW THAT I HAD 11 FEET OR CLOSER BETWEEN THE TWO PUTTS
09:30:42 TO WIN.
09:30:42 SO I WAS JUST HOPING THAT IT WOULD BE WITHIN THAT 11 FEET SO
09:30:46 THAT I STILL HAD A CHANCE ON THE SECOND PUTT, WHICH IT WAS,
09:30:52 AND I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED AT FIRST WHEN IT WENT REALLY FAR
09:30:56 BY, BUT I KNEW THAT I HAD TO KIND OF COMPOSE MYSELF AND JUST
09:31:04 FOCUS ON THE SECOND PUTT.
09:31:06 OTHERWISE, IF I DIDN'T, IT WOULDN'T HAVE GONE WELL.
09:31:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
09:31:12 I OPEN IT UP TO YOU AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
09:31:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, ANYTHING, SIR?
09:31:17 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
09:31:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS, JOE.
09:31:21 THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FANTASTIC YOUNG LADY INTO COUNCIL.
09:31:26 I IMAGINE THOSE TWO FOLKS SMILING BACK THERE MIGHT HAVE
09:31:29 SOMETHING TO DO WITH HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
09:31:31 DO YOU WANT TO BRING THEM FORWARD, JOE?
09:31:34 WE'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AS WELL.
09:31:37 WHAT'S THE HOME COURSE?
09:31:41 THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT.
09:31:43 WHERE DO YOU GUYS PLAY AT?
09:31:45 >> MY HOME COURSE IS AVILA GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB.
09:31:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VERY NICE.
09:31:52 WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
09:31:55 YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO COUNCILMAN CITRO WHO I PLAYED GOLF
09:31:58 WITH ONCE AND ONLY ONCE BECAUSE HE'S WAY TOO GOOD FOR ME.
09:32:02 JOE HITS A MEAN BALL.
09:32:03 THE TWO OF YOU NEED TO GO OUT TOGETHER AND SEE HOW WE DO.
09:32:07 BUT CONGRATULATIONS, ELYSE.
09:32:09 FANTASTIC.
09:32:10 I ONLY HAVE ONE WORD FOR YOUR FUTURE, SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW
09:32:14 IS GO GATORS.
09:32:15 THINK ABOUT IT.
09:32:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, ANYTHING, SIR?
09:32:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
09:32:20 GOLF IS A VERY DIFFICULT GAME TO PLAY.
09:32:23 I'VE HIT EVERY POND AND EVERY RIVER AND EVERY OCEAN, EVEN
09:32:27 THOUGH THERE WASN'T WATER, I'D FALL IN WATER.
09:32:30 I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO MUCH BETTER
09:32:33 THAN 99% OF US THAT PLAY THE GAME.
09:32:38 THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
09:32:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S SO IRONIC WE HAVE A GOLFER HERE THIS
09:32:41 MORNING.
09:32:42 I WAS JUST GETTING ONLINE, GOLFING TOURNAMENT THIS WEEKEND,
09:32:45 I WAS LOOKING AT THE CLUBS I HAVE, AND I DON'T HAVE A
09:32:48 RIGHT-HAND PUTTER.
09:32:49 IT IS A LEFT-HAND PUTTER.
09:32:52 THE LAST TIME I GOLFED I WAS WONDERING WHY I HAD DIFFICULTY.
09:32:55 IT WAS THE WRONG SIDE PUTTER.
09:32:58 WHAT DO YOU USE, ELYSE?
09:32:59 OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE A GREAT PUTTER MAKING THIS 18th HOLE
09:33:04 SHOT.
09:33:04 WHAT DO YOU USE?
09:33:05 WHAT BRAND?
09:33:07 >> I USE A RIGHT-HANDED TAYLORMADE PUTTER.
09:33:12 IT'S AN ARDMORE 3.
09:33:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
09:33:18 WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, YOU SAW SOME OTHER CHAMPIONS JUST
09:33:21 BEFORE YOU.
09:33:22 OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE ON THAT WAY TO BEING A GREAT CHAMPION AND
09:33:25 EVERYTHING YOU DO ESPECIALLY ON THE GOLF COURSE.
09:33:27 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR PARENTS.
09:33:29 >> THANK YOU.
09:33:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'VE GOT THREE REQUESTS OF YOU.
09:33:34 NUMBER ONE, IF YOU EVER NEED SOMEONE TO LOOP FOR YOU, I'LL
09:33:38 BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CARRY YOUR BAG.
09:33:42 NUMBER TWO, DON'T GIVE UP NOW.
09:33:45 YOU'RE ON A GREAT PATH.
09:33:46 I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU BE THE FIRST FEMALE TO PLAY IN THE
09:33:50 MASTERS.
09:33:50 AND NUMBER THREE, WOULD YOU SIGN MY GLOVE, PLEASE?
09:33:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JOE, YOU'RE A GROUPIE.
09:34:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M TELLING YOU, YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT
09:34:03 EQUIPMENT THEY USE, WHAT KIND OF BALL THEY USE, WHAT KIND OF
09:34:06 GLOVE.
09:34:07 WHEN SHE TURNS PRO, I CAN'T DISPLAY THIS ANY LONGER.
09:34:13 SHE USE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF GLOVE, CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS.
09:34:19 A LITTLE SMILEY FACE.
09:34:26 I LOVE IT.
09:34:26 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:34:28 THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
09:34:28 THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
09:34:29 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:34:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONGRATULATIONS, PARENTS.
09:34:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MR. CARLSON IS UP NEXT WITH ITEM
09:34:42 NUMBER 1, CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
09:35:01 >>BILL CARLSON: READY, MR. CHAIR?
09:35:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, READY ANYTIME YOU ARE.
09:35:05 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M EXCITED TODAY TO GIVE A COMMENDATION ON
09:35:08 BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL TO ONE OF THE GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD
09:35:11 LEADERS OF SOUTH TAMPA, MARLIN ANDERSON.
09:35:13 THERE'S A LOT THAT I COULD SAY ABOUT MARLIN.
09:35:16 I'LL READ THE COMMENDATION WE'LL GIVE HIM, BUT I'VE KNOWN
09:35:19 HIM BECAUSE I WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVIST INVOLVED IN THE
09:35:22 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
09:35:23 AND HE PUT TOGETHER YEARS AGO AN ORGANIZATION OF ALL THE
09:35:26 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN SOUTH TAMPA FIGURING IF WE ALL
09:35:29 WORKED TOGETHER THAT WE COULD GET MORE DONE.
09:35:31 THEY ALSO, AS PART OF THAT, EVERY FOUR YEARS PUT TOGETHER
09:35:35 MAYORAL AND CITY COUNCIL DEBATES, WHICH WE ALL PARTICIPATED
09:35:38 IN, AND MARLIN DOES A GREAT JOB OF BEING NEUTRAL THROUGH
09:35:41 THOSE THINGS AND ALSO ASKING TOUGH QUESTIONS.
09:35:44 SO THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING SOUTH TAMPA AND FOR ALL YOUR
09:35:48 LEADERSHIP THERE AND FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
09:35:51 LEADERS IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE EFFECTIVE AT WHAT THEY DO.
09:35:54 I'LL READ THIS COMMENDATION, IT SAYS: IT IS WITH SINCERE
09:35:57 GRATITUDE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS THIS
09:35:59 COMMENDATION TO MARLIN ANDERSON IN HONOR OF HIS SERVICE AND
09:36:02 LEADERSHIP TO THE SOUTH TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:36:04 YOU STARTED YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF
09:36:06 THE SUNSET PARK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION SERVING AS PRESIDENT
09:36:09 FOR EIGHT YEARS.
09:36:10 DURING THAT TIME YOU WERE ENGAGED IN NUMEROUS NEIGHBORHOOD
09:36:13 ISSUES INCLUDING STORMWATER DRAINAGE, WATER QUALITY AND
09:36:15 TRAFFIC CONGESTION AS FOUNDER OF SOUTH TAMPA COALITION,
09:36:19 UNITED SOUTH TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS ON ISSUES AFFECTING SOUTH
09:36:22 TAMPA WHILE ALSO ORGANIZING AND PROMOTING A NEW LEVEL OF
09:36:24 ENGAGEMENT FOR MANY CITIZENS AND PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
09:36:27 INVOLVEMENT.
09:36:27 AS THE ORGANIZER OF SOME OF THE BEST ATTENDED CANDIDATE
09:36:30 FORUMS IN THE CITY, YOU HELP TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THE
09:36:33 VARIOUS POLITICAL CANDIDATES.
09:36:34 YOUR KINDNESS, GENEROSITY, SPIRIT AND LEADERSHIP THAT HAS
09:36:37 INSPIRED COUNTLESS CITIZENS HAS MADE THE CITY OF TAMPA A
09:36:41 BETTER PLACE.
09:36:42 I'D LIKE TO HAVE HIM SPEAK A FEW MINUTES.
09:36:45 MAYBE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING FIRST.
09:36:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
09:36:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MARLIN, I MET YOU ABOUT TEN
09:36:54 YEARS AGO.
09:36:55 COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID IT ALL REGARDING THE FORMS YOU PUT
09:36:59 TOGETHER WITH THE CANDIDATES, YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE
09:37:02 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
09:37:03 YOU'VE ALWAYS INSPIRED ME.
09:37:05 YOU ARE A VERY GOOD MAN.
09:37:06 YOU ARE A VERY KIND INDIVIDUAL.
09:37:08 I APPRECIATE YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVING
09:37:12 THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR MANY WAYS THAT YOU'VE DONE SO.
09:37:15 SO THANK YOU.
09:37:16 IS THIS YOUR FIRST COMMENDATION FROM CITY COUNCIL?
09:37:20 IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
09:37:22 YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOREVER.
09:37:24 I'M SURPRISED, YOU KNOW.
09:37:26 WELL DESERVED, SIR.
09:37:28 THANK YOU.
09:37:28 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
09:37:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY.
09:37:34 THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS LONG OVERDUE.
09:37:37 YOU HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT DIDN'T WANT TO
09:37:41 BE POLITICAL, BUT WAS SO MUCH INTO POLITICS.
09:37:45 YOU MADE SURE THE INFORMATION OF ALL THE CANDIDATES WERE OUT
09:37:47 THERE.
09:37:48 YOU HELD FORUMS.
09:37:50 YOU HELD QUESTIONS.
09:37:51 YOU HELD DEBATES.
09:37:53 AGAIN, YOU WEREN'T BEING POLITICAL, BUT YOU WERE BEING
09:37:56 POLITICAL IN LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THE CHOICES THEY HAVE
09:37:59 BEFORE THEM.
09:37:59 I REMEMBER THE TWO THAT I ATTENDED WITH MS. VICKY POLLIER AS
09:38:06 ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
09:38:09 I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE, NOT ONLY FOR YOUR
09:38:13 AREA, BUT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:38:15 CONGRATULATIONS, MY FRIEND.
09:38:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, ANYTHING, SIR?
09:38:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOOD MORNING, MARLIN.
09:38:22 MARLIN AND I NOT ONLY GO BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE
09:38:25 RAISED OUR CHILDREN TOGETHER.
09:38:26 ANYWAY, MARLIN, CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT ALL YOU DO FOR OUR
09:38:31 COMMUNITY.
09:38:31 IT ALL STARTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AND
09:38:35 WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE A LEADER LIKE YOU.
09:38:38 KEEP IT UP.
09:38:39 THANK YOU.
09:38:39 GOOD TO SEE YOU, MARLIN.
09:38:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:38:44 TO DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND HOLD THESE POLITICAL MEETINGS
09:38:46 WHERE YOU HAVE ALL THE CANDIDATES COME UP AND YOU DO IT IN A
09:38:49 FASHION OR HAVE DONE IT IN A FASHION, I HOPE YOU CONTINUE
09:38:53 SOMEHOW TO DO IT, THAT WAS NOT FAVORABLE TO ONE OR FAVORABLE
09:38:56 TO ANOTHER, BUT FAVORABLE TO ALL.
09:38:59 AND YOU HELD THE CROWD IN CHECK AS TO WHEN THEY GOT TOO MUCH
09:39:05 ON ONE SIDE, ONE CANDIDATE.
09:39:08 YOU SAID SPREAD IT OUT AMONG ALL THE CANDIDATES.
09:39:10 YOU DID SOMETHING THAT VERY FEW CAN DO.
09:39:12 WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
09:39:14 I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AGO.
09:39:16 FRANK HOUSE.
09:39:19 MARGARET VIZZI, THE REST OF THEM HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING
09:39:23 JOB.
09:39:24 YOU WERE PART OF THE CORE OF THE APPLE THAT PUT A TREE ON
09:39:26 THAT DEVELOPED AN ORCHARD.
09:39:29 WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:39:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'VE SEEN YOU AROUND DOWNTOWN A LOT.
09:39:37 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, TALKING TO PEOPLE.
09:39:40 UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE NEED TO HAVE STRONG COMMUNITIES AND
09:39:42 ASSOCIATIONS.
09:39:43 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:39:46 THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON FOR RECOGNIZING.
09:39:47 >>BILL CARLSON: I SHOULD ALSO ADD WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THIS
09:39:50 TO HIM ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND THEN COVID HIT.
09:39:52 WE THOUGHT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT WE WANTED TO DO IT IN PERSON.
09:39:56 DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
09:39:58 >> ABSOLUTELY.
09:39:58 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:40:00 THIS IS A GREAT HONOR.
09:40:02 I DIDN'T REALLY EXPECT THIS, BUT IT HAPPENED.
09:40:05 YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I LOVE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:40:10 I LOVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND IT HAS BEEN
09:40:15 MY PLEASURE TO DO MY PART TO HELP MAKE THIS GREAT CITY A
09:40:18 BETTER PLACE IN WHICH TO LIVE.
09:40:20 THANK YOU.
09:40:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:40:23 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, WE DID NOT APPROVE THE AGENDA, THE
09:40:34 ADDENDUM.
09:40:35 MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
09:40:37 SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.
09:40:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
09:40:39 AS FAR AS STAFF REPORTS, I LOOKED AT THEM AND MOST OF THEM
09:40:47 HAVE TO DO WITH BEING PRESENT.
09:40:50 WE WILL GO TO AS PROMISED.
09:40:51 I KNOW CHIEF BENNETT HAS SOMETHING FOR 57.
09:40:54 ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON 58? 59?
09:41:00 WE NEED TO RELEASE ANYBODY?
09:41:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 61 I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE
09:41:27 SOMEBODY SPEAK TO.
09:41:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 61 AND 59 ASTERISK BY.
09:41:44 58, NO PROBLEM WITH RELEASING MR. BAIRD ON 58?
09:41:47 59?
09:41:50 THAT'S A REPORT ANYWAY.
09:41:55 WE'LL HEAR FROM THAT.
09:41:56 60?
09:41:56 ALL RIGHT.
09:41:59 THAT'S A REPORT ON THAT.
09:42:01 61, NEED TO APPEAR.
09:42:05 62 IS A DRAFT PRESENTATION.
09:42:08 63 NEED TO APPEAR TO PRESENT.
09:42:12 I THINK THE ONLY ONE WE NEED TO RELEASE IS MR. BAIRD ON 58.
09:42:24 WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:42:27 WE'LL GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
09:42:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE WAS A MOTION AND A VOTE?
09:42:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:42:36 >> TRAE WEINGARDT, ATTORNEY AT HILL WARD HENDERSON.
09:43:04 I'M HERE SPEAKING ABOUT RESOLUTION NUMBER 30 ON THE AGENDA.
09:43:10 IT INVOLVES A RELEASE OF EASEMENT, ROE 21-16.
09:43:17 THE REQUEST WAS MADE BY THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 505 SOUTH
09:43:21 ROYAL PALM WAY.
09:43:22 I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF GORDON AND BARBARA BABBITT
09:43:27 WHO LIVE ADJACENT AT 4604 WEST BEACH PARK DRIVE.
09:43:31 THE REASON WE ARE HERE AND A BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT 505
09:43:37 SOUTH ROYAL PALM WAY, THAT PROPERTY EXISTS -- IT'S IN ORANGE
09:43:41 HERE ON THE SHEET.
09:43:44 PREVIOUSLY, THE PROPERTY HAD AN ALLEYWAY BEHIND IT AND SORT
09:43:47 OF A ROUNDABOUT THAT'S CALLED LOT E HERE.
09:43:51 LOT E WAS A NONBUILDABLE LOT WHEN THIS WAS PLATTED
09:43:54 APPROXIMATELY 100 YEARS AGO AND THERE WAS AN EASEMENT THAT
09:43:58 RAN THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
09:44:00 THAT ALLEYWAY AND THE EASEMENT STILL EXISTS TODAY.
09:44:04 NEVERTHELESS, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THIS PARCEL WAS COMBINED SO
09:44:08 THAT LOT 4 AND LOT E WERE COMBINED INTO ONE LOT.
09:44:14 HOWEVER, THE EASEMENT NEVER WAS RELEASED AND LOT E NEVER
09:44:17 BECAME A BUILDABLE LOT.
09:44:19 THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY CODE REQUIRES THAT A LOT HAVE
09:44:23 NO INTERIOR ANGLE OF LESS THAN 30 DEGREES.
09:44:27 HOWEVER, THIS ANGLE IN LOT E IS ONLY 26 DEGREES.
09:44:31 SO THIS LOT IS NOT CURRENTLY BUILDABLE.
09:44:34 HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEGUN CONSTRUCTION IN LOT E
09:44:38 IN WHAT IS STILL AN EASEMENT.
09:44:40 NOW, THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY AND THE REASON THIS IS
09:44:43 IMPORTANT IS THAT WHEN THE BABBITTS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS IN
09:44:47 THIS AREA PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, THEY DID SO WITH THE
09:44:50 UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS EASEMENT ACTED AS A BARRIER BETWEEN
09:44:52 THE STRUCTURES AND THE HOMES IN THE HISTORIC BEACH PARK
09:44:56 NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:44:56 THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN FOR A HUNDRED YEARS SINCE IT WAS
09:44:59 ORIGINALLY PLATTED.
09:45:00 THE RESULT OF RELEASING THIS EASEMENT TODAY WILL BE TO THE
09:45:04 CONSTRUCTION IN THE EASEMENT WILL CONTINUE AND A HOME -- A
09:45:07 BUILDING THAT IS 36-FOOT TALL WILL BE BUILT ONLY SEVEN FEET
09:45:11 FROM THE BABBITT'S BACKYARD, FROM THEIR POOL.
09:45:15 WHAT THAT WILL MEAN IS FOR THE BABBITT'S PROPERTY
09:45:20 SPECIFICALLY, TWO-STORY BUILDINGS ON ALL THREE SIDES NOT
09:45:23 FACING THE STREET OF THEIR PROPERTY, BUILT ONLY 7 FEET FROM
09:45:27 THE LOT LINE.
09:45:28 IN THIS BEAUTIFUL BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS EXISTED
09:45:32 IN THIS STATE FOR MORE THAN A CENTURY, THERE WILL BE LOT
09:45:35 LINE TO LOT LINE CONSTRUCTION.
09:45:38 I BROUGHT A COUPLE OF PICTURES DEMONSTRATING.
09:45:44 THIS IS WHAT THE AREA LOOKED LIKE BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION
09:45:46 BEGAN.
09:45:47 YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE TREES AND EVERYTHING IN THE AREA.
09:45:51 THIS IS SINCE THE CONSTRUCTION BEGAN.
09:45:55 THE TREES HAVE BEEN REMOVED IN THIS WHOLE LARGE AREA, AND
09:45:58 YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A VERY SMALL SLIVER THAT EXTENDS
09:46:02 BACK, FAR BACK INTO THE PROPERTY.
09:46:05 AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
09:46:07 YOU CAN SEE HOW SLIM THAT AREA IS, AND THAT IS RIGHT WHERE
09:46:10 THE EASEMENT RUNS AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION IS BEING
09:46:13 CONDUCTED CURRENTLY.
09:46:15 THE REASON WE'RE HERE AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE ASKING THAT
09:46:18 THIS EASEMENT NOT BE RELEASED IS BECAUSE, AS I STATED, THE
09:46:22 BABBITTS AND THE NEIGHBORS IN THE BEAUTIFUL AND HISTORIC
09:46:25 BEACH PARK NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE RELIED ON THIS EASEMENT FOR
09:46:28 MORE THAN A CENTURY TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY AND THE OVERALL
09:46:35 -- THE WAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN AND THE WAY THE
09:46:37 NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE.
09:46:39 SO WE ASK THAT THE COUNCIL PLEASE DENY THE REQUEST FOR
09:46:43 RELEASE.
09:46:43 THANK YOU.
09:46:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
09:46:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:46:48 I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME AT THE BEGINNING.
09:46:50 >> TRAE WEINGARDT.
09:46:56 I'M WITH HILL WARD HENDERSON.
09:46:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD YOU PUT UP THAT PICTURE?
09:47:01 I THINK IT WAS THE SECOND TO THE LAST PHOTOGRAPH.
09:47:05 I WAS READING THROUGH SOME OF THIS YESTERDAY.
09:47:11 >> IS THAT THE ONE?
09:47:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
09:47:17 >> IF I COULD INTERRUPT.
09:47:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T THINK IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
09:47:20 I THINK IT'S JUST ON THE AGENDA ON CONSENT.
09:47:23 >> CORRECT.
09:47:23 THE RELEASE OF EASEMENT -- ANDREA ZELMAN, DEPUTY CITY
09:47:27 ATTORNEY.
09:47:27 MY CONCERN IS WE ARE AWARE THROUGH OTHER CORRESPONDENCE FROM
09:47:33 MR. WEINGARDT, THAT THEY MAY BE PURSUING LEGAL ACTION
09:47:39 AGAINST THE CITY WITH REGARD TO NOT THE RELEASE OF EASEMENT
09:47:43 THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, BUT A PRIOR DETERMINATION MADE BY
09:47:47 THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
09:47:50 SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING TOO DEEP INTO THE
09:47:53 WEEDS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT IS
09:47:58 WHAT WILL BE AT ISSUE SHOULD THEY PURSUE LITIGATION.
09:48:02 SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU KEEP ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
09:48:06 CONFINED TO THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SIMPLY THE
09:48:09 RELEASE OF EASEMENT.
09:48:11 AND RON WIGGINTON OF OUR OFFICE IS PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT
09:48:16 WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP.
09:48:17 I KNOW IT WAS PULLED FROM THE AGENDA TO BE DISCUSSED AS PART
09:48:20 OF THE ADDENDUM.
09:48:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THE HEADS-UP.
09:48:28 ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS GOING TO BE RELATED TO THE
09:48:30 CONSTRUCTION, BUT I WILL NOT ASK THAT QUESTION.
09:48:33 I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS RELATED TO ITEM 30, UNLESS SOMEBODY
09:48:38 IS GOING TO TELL US THAT ITEM 30 IS GOING TO BE STRUCK FROM
09:48:41 TODAY'S AGENDA.
09:48:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
09:48:45 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:48:46 YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM MR. WIGGINTON
09:48:50 FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT RELATIVE TO THE BACKGROUND OF THIS
09:48:52 BEFORE YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE RELEVANT TO WHAT
09:48:56 YOU WILL BE ASKING.
09:48:58 I THINK YOU'RE ASKING --
09:49:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M LOOKING AT A PICTURE.
09:49:04 WHAT I WANTED TO ASK THE GENTLEMAN WAS IF HE COULD USE HIS
09:49:08 FINGER TO SHOW US WHERE THE SUBJECT EASEMENT IS.
09:49:12 IT'S BEEN HARD TO SEE FROM THE COMPUTER SIDE OF THINGS.
09:49:17 SO IF YOU COULD JUST SHOW US WHERE THE SUBJECT EASEMENT IS
09:49:20 FOR ITEM 30.
09:49:23 >> I'LL DO MY BEST WITH THE ELMO.
09:49:24 IF YOU REMEMBER THE PLAT, AND YOU SAW LOT E, THIS IS LOT E
09:49:30 RIGHT HERE.
09:49:30 THE EASEMENT RUNS SORT OF ALONG WHAT LOOKS LIKE A WHITE
09:49:34 FENCE LINE HERE AND COMES AND CURVES RIGHT HERE WHERE THE
09:49:38 PROPERTY NARROWS.
09:49:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE IS THE BABBITT HOUSE?
09:49:41 >> THE BABBITT HOUSE IS THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE.
09:49:44 IF I CAN SWITCH PICTURES FOR YOU JUST MOMENTARILY.
09:49:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHEN WAS THE VACATING?
09:49:53 BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE ALLEY WAS ACTUALLY -- OR THE -- I
09:49:57 DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS -- AN ALLEY OR RIGHT-OF-WAY -- WAS
09:50:02 VACATED A WHILE BACK.
09:50:03 DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WAS, MR. WEINGARDT?
09:50:06 >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
09:50:07 THERE WAS A RIGHT-OF-WAY AND SEPARATE UTILITY EASEMENT.
09:50:09 I BELIEVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS ABANDONED BACK IN THE '50s.
09:50:13 FROM MY REVIEW OF THIS, IT APPEARS THAT IT WAS -- THE LOTS
09:50:18 THAT ARE TO THE WEST WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL
09:50:21 LOTS, AND THAT ALLEYWAY WAS GOING TO SERVE THEM.
09:50:24 ULTIMATELY THEY BECAME INDIVIDUAL NOT COMMERCIAL AND BECAUSE
09:50:30 OF THAT THE ALLEY WAS ABANDONED.
09:50:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:50:32 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:50:33 THANK YOU, AGAIN, MS. ZELMAN, FOR YOUR HEADS-UP.
09:50:38 >> THANK YOU.
09:50:38 I'LL STICK AROUND IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS DURING THE
09:50:44 DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
09:50:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
09:50:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT SPEAKER.
09:50:47 ANYTIME YOU ARE READY, SIR.
09:51:17 >> STEVE MICHELINI.
09:51:18 I'M HERE REPRESENTING MILANA HOMES WHO IS REQUESTING THIS
09:51:22 RELEASE OF EASEMENT.
09:51:25 I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THE EASEMENT IS ON
09:51:28 PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN.
09:51:30 IT'S NOT PROPERTY THAT THE BABBITTS OWN OR THEY HAVE ANY
09:51:34 RIGHTS TO.
09:51:36 THERE IS NO NEED FOR THAT EASEMENT.
09:51:38 IT'S BEEN ALREADY DETERMINED BY THE CITY THROUGH ITS REVIEW
09:51:42 PROCESS THAT THERE ARE NO RESERVATIONS THERE FOR ANY KIND OF
09:51:46 UTILITIES.
09:51:46 IT'S CURRENTLY NOT BEING USED.
09:51:48 THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING TO YOU AS A REQUEST TO RELEASE THE
09:51:52 EASEMENT BECAUSE TYPICALLY THE EASEMENTS ARE HELD IN TRUST
09:51:57 BY THE CITY FOR PUBLIC USE.
09:51:59 AND THERE IS NO PUBLIC USE THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED, AND
09:52:02 THAT'S PER THE STAFF REPORT.
09:52:03 AS FAR AS MR. WEINGARDT'S PRESENTATION REGARDING WHAT IT WAS
09:52:10 HISTORICALLY, THAT THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THIS REQUEST.
09:52:13 IT MAY HAVE BEEN USEFUL A HUNDRED YEARS AGO OR 50 YEARS AGO,
09:52:19 60 YEARS AGO, WHENEVER BUT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED AND
09:52:23 HAS NO PUBLIC PURPOSE RIGHT NOW.
09:52:25 THAT'S WHY THE EASEMENT REQUEST, THE RELEASE IS IN THERE.
09:52:27 THE ALLEY, AS MR. DINGFELDER POINTED OUT, HAS ALREADY BEEN
09:52:33 VACATED.
09:52:34 SO THE RIGHTS OF PASSAGE THERE HAVE BEEN RELEASED.
09:52:39 I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY THEY DIDN'T RELEASE THE EASEMENT
09:52:42 WHEN THEY RELEASED -- WHEN THEY VACATED THE ALLEY, BUT FOR
09:52:46 WHATEVER REASON, THEY DIDN'T.
09:52:49 A LETTER HAS ALREADY BEEN SENT TO MR. WEINGARDT REGARDING
09:52:52 THE CITY'S DETERMINATION FOR SETBACKS AND RELATED ISSUES.
09:52:59 TYPICALLY ON TRIANGULAR SHAPED LOTS, THE NARROWEST PART OF
09:53:03 THE LOT IS THE FRONT, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY DETERMINED THAT
09:53:06 THIS IS A FRONT THAT IS ON ROYAL PALM WAY, AND THEN THE
09:53:11 SIDES ARE RESPECTIVELY ON THE BABBITT SIDE, ALTHOUGH THAT'S
09:53:14 THEIR REAR YARD, IT IS THE SIDE YARD FOR THIS PARTICULAR
09:53:19 PARCEL.
09:53:19 I'LL BE STAYING AROUND FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION LATER ON.
09:53:23 WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND
09:53:26 WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION REGARDING THE MATTER, AND
09:53:29 WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RELEASE OF
09:53:32 EASEMENT AS PETITIONED AND SUPPORTED BY THE CITY STAFF AND
09:53:36 CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:53:37 THANK YOU.
09:53:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:53:41 THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
09:53:43 MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR EXPEDIENCY, I'D HAVE CONCERN VOTING
09:53:51 ON THIS TODAY BECAUSE NOW WE'VE HEARD FROM MS. ZELMAN ABOUT
09:53:56 POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
09:53:57 WE HAVE TWO LAWYERS HERE WHO ARE TELLING US -- NOT TWO
09:54:02 LAWYERS -- WE HAVE A LAWYER AND A VERY, VERY SMART LAND USE
09:54:05 GUY, STEVE MICHELINI, TELLING US TWO DIFFERENT -- YOU KNOW,
09:54:09 TWO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS.
09:54:11 I WOULD SUGGEST WITH RESPECT TO MR. MANISCALCO THAT WE DEFER
09:54:17 THIS FOR TWO WEEKS SO LEGAL CAN MEET WITH US INDIVIDUALLY
09:54:22 AND BRIEF US INDIVIDUALLY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY'S ROLE
09:54:27 AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THIS DISCUSSED
09:54:33 IN THE PUBLIC FORUM, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF MS. ZELMAN
09:54:38 EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT LITIGATION.
09:54:40 THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
09:54:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. ZELMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
09:54:45 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANDREA ZELMAN AGAIN.
09:54:47 I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LET RON WIGGINTON GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN
09:54:53 TO YOU THE ACTUAL EASEMENT REQUEST AS DISTINGUISHED FROM
09:54:55 SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
09:54:58 I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN'T GO FORWARD.
09:55:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T GO FORWARD.
09:55:05 I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE PRUDENT TO GO FORWARD.
09:55:08 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ANY EXIGENCY OF GOING TODAY.
09:55:14 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT TO DEFER TWO WEEKS.
09:55:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD PREFER WE WAIT TILL WE GET TO ITEM
09:55:21 NUMBER 30 AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION.
09:55:26 WE'LL CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:55:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, NO PROBLEM.
09:55:29 >>RON WIGGINTON: AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS GOING TO BE
09:55:34 SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
09:55:36 IT'S A SIMPLE RELEASE OF EASEMENT THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED
09:55:40 BY RIGHT-OF-WAY MAPPING COORDINATOR THAT IS NO LONGER
09:55:43 NEEDED.
09:55:43 AS FAR AS DEFERRING, I HAVE NOT BEEN INFORMED THAT THERE'S
09:55:50 ANY URGENCY TO THIS ITEM.
09:55:52 WE ARE IN AGREEMENT IF THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
09:55:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, SINCE YOU PUT IT OUT THERE
09:56:01 AND MR. RON HAS SAID NOT GREAT URGENCY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND
09:56:06 ENTERTAIN IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TWO WEEKS.
09:56:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S UP TO --
09:56:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SPOKE TO MR. WIGGINTON YESTERDAY TO
09:56:14 GET CLARITY ON THIS BEFORE I SENT THE MEMO TO PULL THE ITEM.
09:56:19 I'M GOOD WITH IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, AS HE SAID, THERE'S NO
09:56:23 SENSE OF URGENCY IF YOU WANT TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS JUST SO
09:56:26 EVERYBODY CAN GET ON THE SAME PAGE, IF THEY HAVE ANY
09:56:29 QUESTIONS OFF-LINE, WHATEVER.
09:56:30 I DON'T MIND AT ALL.
09:56:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND TO DEFER.
09:56:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY MR.
09:56:41 MIRANDA.
09:56:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS TWO WEEKS ENOUGH TIME?
09:56:45 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I APOLOGIZE.
09:56:46 I JUST RECEIVED A TEXT FROM THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
09:56:50 DEPARTMENT.
09:56:51 THEY ASKED FOR A 30-DAY WINDOW.
09:56:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT TAKES TO US A VACATION DAY.
09:56:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 15 WOULD BE THE FIRST REGULAR
09:57:00 MEETING WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE SUMMER BREAK.
09:57:05 >>THE CLERK: JULY 15 WILL BE THE NEXT REGULAR SESSION AFTER
09:57:08 THE BREAK.
09:57:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHANGE THE MOTION TO JULY 15, I'LL
09:57:18 SECOND.
09:57:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED.
09:57:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:57:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
09:57:21 ANY OPPOSED?
09:57:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:57:29 THAT RESOLVES THE ISSUE FOR ITEM NUMBER 30.
09:57:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
09:57:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE AGENDA.
09:57:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS CORRECT.
09:57:34 WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:57:37 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:57:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, WERE YOU SAYING THAT SHOULD
09:57:48 COME UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS INSTEAD OF CONSENT?
09:57:51 IT WOULD BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY.
09:57:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD BE YOUR PLEASURE.
09:57:56 CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE THE CASE -- UNFINISHED BUSINESS
09:58:01 THEN, PLEASE.
09:58:02 THANK YOU.
09:58:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:58:09 >> GOOD MORNING.
09:58:09 MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:58:13 ONE THING YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO RECOGNIZE AND ALWAYS AFRICAN
09:58:19 PEOPLE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE.
09:58:20 THEY DO US DIRTY AND THEY DO US NASTY.
09:58:25 THEY CUT MY TIME OFF.
09:58:28 THEY CUT MY TIME OFF, SENT SOMEBODY ELSE UP.
09:58:31 THEY HAVE ALL KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT EASEMENT.
09:58:33 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE, WE 26% OF THE
09:58:36 POPULATION.
09:58:36 THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A RIGHT-OF-WAY OF ALLEY AND WHO HAVE
09:58:39 RIGHTS TO IT AND WHATNOT.
09:58:40 I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WE'RE 26% OF THIS POPULATION AND WE
09:58:44 DON'T ENJOY 26% OF THE CITY BUDGET ANYWAY WHATSOEVER.
09:58:48 WE GET ABOUT 90% OF THE BAD TREATMENT OF THE POLICE
09:58:51 DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
09:58:53 AND NOTHING ABOUT THAT, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING ABOUT
09:58:57 THAT.
09:58:59 IT'S A DISRESPECT AND A DISREGARD THEY HAVE FOR AFRICAN
09:59:03 PEOPLE.
09:59:04 IT IS A HATRED THEY HAVE FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:59:06 AND THEY HAVE US LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COOL ABOUT
09:59:12 PARTICIPATING IN OUR OWN OPPRESSION.
09:59:15 WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COOL ABOUT OVER 600,000 BICYCLE STOPS.
09:59:18 WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COOL ABOUT WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT DO
09:59:21 THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITIES.
09:59:23 WE SUPPOSED TO BE COOL ABOUT POLICE VIOLENCE.
09:59:25 ALL THESE THINGS WE SUPPOSED TO BE COOL ABOUT.
09:59:28 WE SUPPOSED TO BE COOL THAT THEY ADDING ON TAXES TO HELP
09:59:34 BUCCANEER, A TEAM WITH A RACIST NAME, BUCCANEER, ADDING ON
09:59:41 TAXES TO HELP THEM BUT NOT TO HELP OUR COMMUNITIES OR OUR
09:59:44 PEOPLE OR OUR YOUTH.
09:59:45 AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COOL WITH THAT FORM OF OPPRESSION.
09:59:48 AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE INSULTED AND COOL ABOUT IT.
09:59:52 SUPPOSED TO BE COOL ABOUT WEARING A SHIRT DOWN HERE AND YOU
09:59:54 ALL HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WANT TO PUT YOU OUT, ARREST
09:59:57 YOU, PUT YOU IN HANDCUFFS.
09:59:59 AND MY SHIRT LOOKS OFFENSIVE, BUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
10:00:03 SOUTH TAMPA, THAT JUNKYARD THEY HAVE RUNNING THROUGH GANDY
10:00:08 BOULEVARD, A STRAIGHT JUNKYARD THAT THEY HAVE RUNNING
10:00:11 THROUGH GANDY BOULEVARD THAT THEY CALL AN EXPRESSWAY THAT
10:00:14 NEED TO BE REMOVED, AN EYESORE.
10:00:19 AND THE JUNKYARDS THEY HAVE AROUND EVERYBODY'S HOME IN SOUTH
10:00:23 TAMPA THEY ARE CALLING APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
10:00:26 BUT THEY ARE OFFENDED BY A SHIRT THAT I WEAR.
10:00:28 AND THEY WANT TO PUT THE POLICE ON ME TO ARREST ME, BUT THEY
10:00:33 GOT A JUNKYARD RUNNING DOWN THROUGH GANDY BOULEVARD.
10:00:37 EVERY TIME IT RAIN, THEY HAVE A CESS PIT, A CESSPOOL UP AT
10:00:43 HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY.
10:00:44 THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT FOR 50 YEARS, THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT
10:00:49 THE WATER LEAKAGE OR THE WATER DRAINAGE ON HENDERSON AND
10:00:54 DALE MABRY.
10:00:55 MAN, YOU ALL OFFEND AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:00:58 YOU ALL OFFEND BLACK PEOPLE.
10:01:00 YOU ALL OFFEND US IN THE WORST WAY, SAME WAY THEY OFFENDED
10:01:03 US IN ROSEWOOD, FLORIDA, TULSA, OKLAHOMA, AND OTHER PLACES.
10:01:07 IT'S OFFENSIVE.
10:01:10 IT'S HIGHLY OFFENSIVE, AND THE WAY THEY SKIPPED MY TURN THIS
10:01:14 MORNING, THAT WAS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE.
10:01:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. MENTESNOT.
10:01:20 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:01:21 THAT'S IT FOR IN PERSON.
10:01:27 ALL RIGHT.
10:01:27 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:01:34 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
10:01:36 MICHAEL RANDOLPH REGISTERED TO SPEAK, HOWEVER HE DID NOT
10:01:39 PHONE IN TO PARTICIPATE.
10:01:40 TRAE WEINGARDT PARTICIPATED IN CHAMBERS WITH YOU ALL THIS
10:01:45 MORNING.
10:01:45 SO THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE BARBARA BABBITT.
10:01:49 BARBARA, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND
10:01:52 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:01:53 BARBARA, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:02:09 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:10 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:02:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN.
10:02:13 >> I'M BARBARA BABBITT, AND MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR HOME
10:02:17 AT 4604 WEST BEACH PARK DRIVE OVER 23 YEARS AGO.
10:02:21 AND AT THAT TIME, WE RELIED ON EXISTING EASEMENT BEHIND OUR
10:02:26 PROPERTY AND BUFFER FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
10:02:29 IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THE ABANDONED ALLEYWAY WHICH
10:02:32 INCLUDES THE EASEMENT KNOWN AS LOT E ON THE PAPERWORK WAS A
10:02:35 NONBUILDABLE LOT WITH NO STREET ACCESS.
10:02:38 BEFORE THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY BY MR. MARTIN, LOT E WAS
10:02:41 HOME FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO MANY, MANY MATURE TREES.
10:02:44 I HAD THE PLEASURE -- I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WATCHING BEACH
10:02:49 PARK NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY.
10:02:50 WE HAVE A WEALTH OF NEW HOMES JOIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DURING
10:02:53 THE 23 YEARS WE'VE LIVED HERE.
10:02:56 ALL OF THESE NEW HOMES HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT AND RESPECTFUL
10:02:59 OF KEEPING WITH THE BEAUTY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:03:01 I WATCHED FROM MY BACKYARD ALL OF THESE TREES WERE CHOPPED
10:03:04 DOWN AND CARRIED AWAY, INCLUDING ONES ON THE EASEMENT.
10:03:08 MADE ME FILL ILL.
10:03:10 THE REMOVAL OF ALL THE TREES WAS A DEVASTATING LOSS TO OUR
10:03:14 HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:03:14 THE RELEASE OF THIS EASEMENT WOULD CAUSE NOT ONLY COMPLETE
10:03:19 LOSS OF OUR PRIVACY IN OUR BACKYARD AS THE TWO-STORY
10:03:22 SECONDARY STRUCTURE IS SEVEN FEET FROM OUR WROUGHT IRON
10:03:25 FENCE BUT IT WILL ALSO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF OUR
10:03:27 PROPERTY VALUE.
10:03:28 RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO-STORY HOME, SEVEN FEET FROM THE
10:03:32 PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES.
10:03:33 THE RELEASE OF THIS EASEMENT WILL MAKE ALL SIDES OF OUR
10:03:36 PROPERTY SEVEN FEET FROM TWO-STORY STRUCTURES, ESSENTIALLY
10:03:39 BOXING US IN ON ALL THREE SIDES.
10:03:42 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT CONSTRUCTION ON 505
10:03:47 ROYAL PALM HAS ALREADY BEGUN ON TOP OF THE EASEMENT, EVEN
10:03:50 THOUGH THE EASEMENT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED.
10:03:52 THE BUILDING IS ALREADY ABOUT FOUR FOOT OUT OF GROUND.
10:03:56 APPLICATION FOR THE RELEASE OF EASEMENT WAS FILED ONLY AFTER
10:03:59 WE -- CONSTRUCTION ON THE EASEMENT.
10:04:02 I GUESS MR. MARTIN IS ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS INSTEAD OF
10:04:06 PERMISSION.
10:04:07 IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE STARTING OF CONSTRUCTION ON
10:04:10 AN EASEMENT BEFORE APPLYING HAVE EASEMENT RELEASED IS
10:04:13 LAWFUL.
10:04:14 AGAIN, WE RELIED ON THIS EASEMENT IN MAKING THE DECISION TO
10:04:18 PURCHASE OUR HOME YEARS AGO, AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU
10:04:21 DENY THE APPLICATION FOR ITS RELEASE.
10:04:23 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:04:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:04:28 >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, THAT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE GENERAL PUBLIC
10:04:30 COMMENTS.
10:04:30 THANK YOU.
10:04:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:04:32 WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:04:35 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM STAFF TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
10:04:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, DID COUNCIL WAS A DISCUSSION
10:04:58 OR PRESENTATION ON THIS, BECAUSE WE COULD MOVE THAT TO THE
10:05:01 1:30 TO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
10:05:03 THIS IS THE ISSUE OF COUNCIL'S INITIATIVE TO AMEND THE CODE
10:05:07 TO ALLOW FOR AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS FOR PARKING
10:05:11 TICKETS.
10:05:11 IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL'S REQUEST.
10:05:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:05:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:05:17 THIS IS WHAT I BROUGHT UP REGARDING PARKING ON THE
10:05:20 RIGHT-OF-WAY, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND WHATNOT, ANYTHING FROM
10:05:23 SEMITRUCKS, GENERAL COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT, EQUIPMENT MEANING
10:05:26 LIKE LARGE TRUCKS, VANS THAT PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE
10:05:29 NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND IT WOULD ALLOW US TO
10:05:33 ISSUE CITATIONS, PARKING TICKETS TO HOPEFULLY ENFORCE THIS
10:05:38 AND REMEDY THIS BECAUSE I'VE RECEIVED SO MANY COMPLAINTS,
10:05:42 MANY OF US HAVE, FROM SO MANY PARTS OF THE CITY IN REGARDS
10:05:45 TO FOLKS JUST PARKING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES WHEREVER THEY
10:05:50 WANT.
10:05:50 I HAD MADE THIS MOTION THAT IT COME BACK FOR FIRST READING,
10:05:54 WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND THAT WOULD BE IT.
10:05:57 SO WE WOULD ALLOW OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THE
10:06:01 AUTHORITY TO TICKET AND CITE THESE INDIVIDUALS AND ENCOURAGE
10:06:05 AND MOTIVATE THEM TO STOP PARKING ALL OVER THE
10:06:08 NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:06:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:06:10 I SEE MS. ZELMAN UP AND SOMEONE ELSE FROM LEGAL ON THE
10:06:13 SCREEN.
10:06:13 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU THAT PATRICK PEREZ
10:06:16 IS AVAILABLE.
10:06:17 HE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED A REPORT TO YOU AND THE DIRECTION
10:06:20 WAS FOR HIM TO GO AHEAD AND PREPARE THIS ORDINANCE FOR FIRST
10:06:24 READING.
10:06:24 BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, HE IS AVAILABLE TO
10:06:29 ANSWER THEM.
10:06:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
10:06:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
10:06:36 I WANT TO AGREE WITH MR. MANISCALCO.
10:06:38 THIS IS NOT IN SOME AREAS, IT'S MUCH MORE EVIDENT THAT THESE
10:06:43 THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
10:06:46 IN THE AREAS THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN, IF IT CONTINUES THAT
10:06:48 WAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL
10:06:51 DETERIORATE AND WILL NOT KEEP UP WITH THE REST OF THE
10:06:55 NEIGHBORS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:06:56 FOR EQUALITY, I WANT TO THANK MR. MANISCALCO FOR WORKING
10:06:58 DILIGENTLY ON THIS AND GET THIS DONE AND OVER.
10:07:04 I HOPE IT'S NOT ONLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT OTHERS THAT
10:07:08 ARE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO VEER IN AND EXPLAIN IT TO THE CHIEF
10:07:11 OF STAFF THROUGH THE DIRECTION THAT HE GAVE US TO GET THESE
10:07:17 THINGS DONE.
10:07:18 CALL THEM IN SO THEY CAN SEND SOMEBODY TO VIEW.
10:07:21 YOU'VE GOT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE THEY START GIVING
10:07:24 OUT TICKETS.
10:07:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
10:07:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE
10:07:33 ATTENTION.
10:07:34 THIS IS SOMETHING I HATE TO SAY IS LONG OVERDUE.
10:07:37 THE CITY IS LACKING IN SIDEWALKS.
10:07:39 IF WE HAVE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF VEHICLES
10:07:42 THAT ARE PARKED ALONG OUR SIDEWALKS RIGHT NOW, IT JUST
10:07:45 FORCES PEOPLE TO WALK INTO THE STREETS.
10:07:47 AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:07:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
10:07:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE BITE AT THE APPLE, SIR.
10:07:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:07:54 THIS IS NOT ONLY ON SIDEWALKS, AS MR. CITRO SAID, WHICH IT
10:07:58 IS, THIS IS ALSO ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE YOU PARK NOT ONLY
10:08:01 THE TRACTOR, BUT THE TRACTOR AND THE TRAILER RIGHT HERE AND
10:08:04 LEAVE IT THERE FROM FRIDAY TO SATURDAY, SUNDAY, SOMETIMES
10:08:07 THREE, FOUR, FIVE DAYS.
10:08:10 YOU CAN'T SEE BEHIND THE BIG VEHICLES.
10:08:12 SOMEBODY WILL GET HURT.
10:08:15 OR SOMEBODY WILL GET KILLED.
10:08:17 PUBLIC SERVICE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND, AS SMALL AS IT IS,
10:08:21 SOMETHING BETWEEN LIFE AND THE ULTIMATE OF NOT HAVING LIFE.
10:08:26 IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN NEEDED A LONG TIME.
10:08:28 WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SCARE ANYBODY OUT OF THE CITY.
10:08:30 WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT THE SAME HOLISTIC QUALITY OF LIFE
10:08:34 ALL OVER THE CITY.
10:08:36 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:08:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE LEGAL ON THE SCREEN.
10:08:40 ANYTHING TO SAY, SIR?
10:08:42 >> PATRICK PEREZ, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:08:45 NO, SIR.
10:08:45 I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN HELP ANSWER.
10:08:48 AS COUNCILMAN SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE BROUGHT BACK AFTER
10:08:51 COUNCIL'S MOTION.
10:08:52 THANK YOU.
10:08:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:08:54 FOR THE RECORD, MR. VIERA IS HERE.
10:08:57 I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:09:01 MR. MANISCALCO HAS MADE A MOTION.
10:09:03 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
10:09:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, I HAVE TO READ THE ORDINANCE.
10:09:08 FIRST, MR. PEREZ, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON
10:09:11 THIS.
10:09:11 I APPRECIATE YOU BEING SO RESPONSIVE ANSWERING ALL QUESTIONS
10:09:15 AND BRINGING THIS TO FRUITION.
10:09:16 THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, SIR.
10:09:18 I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:09:20 CONSIDERATION.
10:09:21 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE
10:09:25 AUTHORITY TO ISSUE PARKING CITATIONS; MAKING REVISIONS TO
10:09:29 CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15, PARKING;
10:09:32 AMENDING ARTICLE 1, ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS; DIVISION 1,
10:09:37 GENERAL PROVISIONS, ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY, DEFINITIONS,
10:09:40 SECTION 15-4.5, AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS FOR PARKING
10:09:42 TICKETS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
10:09:44 CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
10:09:47 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MADE THE MOTION AND
10:09:51 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
10:09:54 ROLL CALL.
10:09:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:09:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:10:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:10:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:10:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:10:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:10:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:10:06 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:10:08 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 15, 2021 AT
10:10:12 9:30 A.M.
10:10:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:10:15 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CONSENT AGENDA, 4 THROUGH 7.
10:10:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:10:21 I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 7.
10:10:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:10:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED ITEMS 4 THROUGH 7.
10:10:29 MIRANDA SECONDED.
10:10:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:10:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:10:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:10:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:10:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:10:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:10:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:10:39 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:10:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PARKS AND RECS, ITEMS 8 AND 9.
10:10:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 8 THROUGH 9.
10:10:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:10:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
10:10:52 SECONDED MR. MIRANDA.
10:10:54 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:10:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:10:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:10:58 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:10:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:10:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:11:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:11:02 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:11:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, ITEMS 10 THROUGH
10:11:07 23, MR. DINGFELDER.
10:11:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:11:10 BEFORE I MOVE MY ITEMS, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO
10:11:15 OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WHO I ON OCCASION LIKE TO POKE AND
10:11:19 JAB AT, BUT ON THIS OCCASION, IN REGARD TO ITEMS 13 AND ITEM
10:11:23 21, THESE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CHEMICAL PURCHASES.
10:11:28 IN LOOKING AT THE BID SHEETS, THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY THE
10:11:33 PURCHASING DEPARTMENT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THESE BIDS.
10:11:37 SAVED THE CITY TAXPAYERS AND RATEPAYERS HUNDREDS AND
10:11:41 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
10:11:43 PUTTING THESE OUT TO BID, AND IT WAS A VERY COMPETITIVE
10:11:48 BIDDING ATMOSPHERE.
10:11:50 I WANTED TO COMMEND THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, MR. SPEARMAN
10:11:53 AND HIS TEAM, ITEMS 13 THROUGH 21.
10:11:56 WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL GLADLY MOVE ITEMS 10 THROUGH
10:12:06 23.
10:12:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED.
10:12:09 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED.
10:12:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:12:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:12:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:12:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:12:19 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:12:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:12:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:12:22 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:12:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FINANCE COMMITTEE ITEMS 24 THROUGH 26.
10:12:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 24 THROUGH 26.
10:12:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
10:12:34 ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:12:38 >>THE CLERK: DINGFELDER.
10:12:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:12:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:12:47 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:12:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:12:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:12:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:12:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:12:54 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:12:55 WE'LL GO TO BUILDING AND ZONING, ITEMS 27 THROUGH 39.
10:13:01 28 HAS A SUBSTITUTE.
10:13:03 NUMBER 30 ALREADY VOTED ON AND WILL BE CONTINUED TO JULY 15.
10:13:07 MR. CARLSON.
10:13:10 >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM ITEM 38.
10:13:15 I HAVE A FORM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO FILE IF I COULD TO MAKE A
10:13:18 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE JUST FOR THE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE,
10:13:21 THE COMPANY WITH WHOM I AM RETAINED IS A TENANT OF THE
10:13:25 PROPERTY WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS RESOLUTION.
10:13:27 I'D LIKE TO FILE THIS FORM, IF POSSIBLE.
10:13:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU CAN MOVE ALL THE ITEMS EXPECT 38.
10:13:33 >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATELY MAKE A
10:13:37 COMMENT.
10:13:37 I ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 28.
10:13:44 I'M SURE YOU ALL DO RESEARCH ON THESE ITEMS AS WE'RE LOOKING
10:13:47 AT THEM.
10:13:48 AS I READ THE ORIGINALLY VERSION, YOU SAW WE GOT AN AMENDED
10:13:52 VERSION YESTERDAY, IT APPEARED AS IF THE MONEY WAS GOING TO
10:13:59 -- IT WAS NOT CLEAR WHERE THE MONEY WAS GOING ON THIS.
10:14:01 I DID TALK TO STAFF AND CLARIFIED THAT IT IS GOING TO REACH
10:14:06 INSTEAD OF ONE TAMPA.
10:14:07 BUT IN THAT, I FOUND OUT THAT ONE TAMPA A YEAR AGO WAS A
10:14:10 PROGRAM OF THE CITY.
10:14:12 NOW IT'S BEEN -- I LOOKED ON SUN BIZ, IT'S BEEN SET UP AS A
10:14:16 NONPROFIT.
10:14:17 THERE'S NOT MUCH INFORMATION ON IT YET BECAUSE IT'S IN THE
10:14:20 PROCESS OF BEING SET UP AND SET UP WITH SEPARATE BANK
10:14:22 ACCOUNTS.
10:14:23 BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE
10:14:26 CITY OWNING AND CONTROLLING NONPROFITS.
10:14:28 I THINK THAT IF THE CITY IS GOING TO PARTNER WITH A
10:14:30 NONPROFIT, IT SHOULD BE A NONPROFIT THAT IS KNOWN BY THE
10:14:33 PUBLIC AND HAS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE
10:14:37 PUBLIC.
10:14:37 YOU ALL KNOW I'VE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE EDC WHICH DOES NOT
10:14:41 PROVIDE FULL TRANSPARENCY, ALTHOUGH IT'S A KNOWN NONPROFIT.
10:14:45 IF THEY ARE NONPROFITS -- SOUNDS LIKE SEVERAL NONPROFITS
10:14:49 OWNED BY THE CITY, I THINK WE NEED TO PROVIDE FULL
10:14:52 TRANSPARENCY ON WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.
10:14:54 IN THIS CASE IT APPEARS IT WILL BE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE IT IS
10:14:57 GOING TO A KNOWN NONPROFIT.
10:15:00 IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD WATCH THIS TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHO
10:15:03 THE NONPROFITS ARE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO, HOW THEY ARE
10:15:05 GOING TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY, WHO THEY NEED TO DISCLOSE WHO
10:15:09 THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE AND HOW THOSE ARE MADE, ADMINISTRATIVE
10:15:13 FEES ARE AND IF IT IS A NONPROFIT OWNED BY THE CITY I THINK
10:15:15 WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY.
10:15:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETHING TO BRING UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS,
10:15:19 SIR.
10:15:20 >>BILL CARLSON: WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS
10:15:23 27, 28, 29, AND THEN 31 THROUGH 37, AND THEN 39.
10:15:33 >>THE CLERK: SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR --
10:15:36 >>BILL CARLSON: SUBSTITUTE ON 28.
10:15:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK BY STRANGE COINCIDENCE I POKED
10:15:45 DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE AS WELL THIS WEEK AND SPOKE WITH MR.
10:15:49 MASSEY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE -- BECAUSE I SAW THAT HE HAD
10:15:53 BEEN THE ATTORNEY WHO CREATED THE ONE TAMPA NONPROFIT, AND
10:15:59 SAW WHO SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE THAT WERE LISTED ON
10:16:02 THE STATE'S WEBSITE.
10:16:04 SO ANYWAY, WE HAD A LITTLE CHAT ABOUT IT.
10:16:07 THERE HE IS ON OUR SCREEN IN CASE HE WANTS TO GIVE US A
10:16:11 LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE VOTE.
10:16:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:16:16 >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR.
10:16:19 POINT OF CLARIFICATION, ONE TAMPA INC. IS NOT INVOLVED WITH
10:16:21 ANY OF THE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA.
10:16:23 ONE TAMPA INC. IS NOT REALLY THE PROGRAM THAT WE INSTITUTED
10:16:28 BACK IN APRIL OF 2020 WHEN COVID FIRST HIT.
10:16:31 THE NAMES ARE THE SAME, BUT THEY ARE DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:16:36 ONE TAMPA INC. WAS FORMED BY THE CITY.
10:16:40 IT'S PRIMARILY AN ENTITY TO PROVIDE -- TO SEEK PRIVATE FUNDS
10:16:45 TO ASSIST US IN OUR VARIOUS STRATEGIC EFFORTS.
10:16:50 SINCE IT RELATES TO THE CITY, ALL THE MEETINGS ARE IN THE
10:16:53 SUNSHINE.
10:16:54 THERE'S NOTICE TAKEN.
10:16:55 YOU ALL CAN ATTEND THEM.
10:16:57 WE HAVE MINUTES THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU.
10:17:00 MR. CARLSON IS CORRECT.
10:17:03 WE ARE STILL IN KIND OF THE ORGANIZATION STAGE OF THAT, BUT
10:17:07 THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF ONE TAMPA INC.
10:17:10 I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
10:17:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. MASSEY
10:17:19 STATES ON THE RECORD THAT THIS IS NOT FOR ANY NONPROFIT
10:17:23 THING OF ANY POLITICAL -- NO POLITICAL ENTITY.
10:17:26 JUST TO HELP SOMEBODY WHO IS IN NEED, IF I RECALL.
10:17:30 >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT.
10:17:30 ONE TAMPA PROGRAM WAS SET UP TO HELP FOLKS AFFECTED BY
10:17:34 COVID.
10:17:34 ONE TAMPA INC. CANNOT BE POLITICALLY INVOLVED AT ALL.
10:17:37 IT'S JUST A FUND-RAISING -- PRIMARILY FUND-RAISING TO ASSIST
10:17:42 IN CHARITABLE EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY EFFORTS BY THE CITY.
10:17:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT, I CONTRIBUTED TO ONE TAMPA BACK
10:17:49 IN APRIL OF 2020.
10:17:52 I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG, I NEVER WOULD HAVE MADE
10:17:55 A CONTRIBUTION TO THAT 501(C)(3) I GUESS.
10:18:00 THAT ORGANIZATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVE ALL THE
10:18:05 RECORDS FROM DAY ONE TO NOW?
10:18:10 >>MORRIS MASSEY: WELL, AGAIN, THE PROGRAM WAS SET UP BEFORE
10:18:12 THE CORPORATION WAS SET UP.
10:18:14 THE CITY PROGRAM, BUT, YES, FROM THE DATE OF INCORPORATION
10:18:19 ON, ALL THE RECORDS ARE PUBLIC RECORDS AND OPEN TO EVERYONE
10:18:22 FOR INSPECTION.
10:18:24 HAPPY TO PROVIDE ALL THAT INFORMATION TO ALL OF YOU.
10:18:26 IT'S TOTALLY BEING OFFERED, SUBJECT TO PUBLIC RECORDS AND
10:18:30 SUNSHINE.
10:18:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE OTHER 501(C)(3)s, DO THEY ADHERE TO
10:18:35 THE SAME RULES?
10:18:35 OPEN RECORDS, RECORDS OF EVERYTHING AS FAR AS TRANSPARENCY.
10:18:39 >>MORRIS MASSEY: NOT EVERY 501(C)(3) IS SUBJECT TO PUBLIC
10:18:43 RECORDS AND SUNSHINE LAWS.
10:18:45 BECAUSE THIS IS RELATED TO THE CITY, WE ARE TAKING THE ADDED
10:18:48 STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS OPEN AND SUBJECT TO PUBLIC
10:18:52 RECORDS LAWS AND SUNSHINE.
10:18:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON HAS MOVED --
10:19:01 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE FOLLOW-UP.
10:19:02 EVEN IN THAT CONVERSATION, THE CONFUSION IS THE SAME NAME
10:19:05 HAS BEEN USED WITH A PROGRAM OF THE CITY THAT PROBABLY THE
10:19:08 CHECK YOU WROTE WENT TO THE CITY AND NOT THE NONPROFIT.
10:19:11 THE NONPROFIT IS NEW.
10:19:13 IT TURNS OUT ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS SENT US AN E-MAIL ABOUT
10:19:17 THIS ALSO.
10:19:18 WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE
10:19:21 PUBLIC THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO AND
10:19:25 NOT IMPLYING THAT ANYTHING WRONG HAS HAPPENED.
10:19:27 WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE
10:19:30 PUBLIC WHO IT IS, AND I WAS CONFUSED BY THE FACT THAT THERE
10:19:34 ARE TWO ENTITIES OR TWO PROGRAMS THAT HAVE THE SAME NAME.
10:19:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APOLOGIZE.
10:19:39 I NEVER GOT THE E-MAIL.
10:19:41 IF I DID GET IT, I DIDN'T READ IT.
10:19:43 I APOLOGIZE.
10:19:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE A MOTION, THEY CAN HAVE A REPORT AND
10:19:46 GIVE US SOME INFORMATION IN THE FUTURE.
10:19:48 WE HAVE ITEMS 27 -- WITH THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, ARE YOU
10:19:59 MOVING THAT SIR?
10:20:00 MR. CARLSON MOVES IT.
10:20:02 MR. MIRANDA SECONDS IT.
10:20:04 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:20:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:20:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:20:09 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:20:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:20:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:20:12 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:20:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:20:15 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:20:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON WILL STEP OUT A SECOND.
10:20:22 THE ALTERNATE WAS MR. VIERA.
10:20:23 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:20:25 I HEREBY MOVE THE ITEM THAT -- WHAT ITEM WAS THAT?
10:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 38, SIR.
10:20:31 >>LUIS VIERA: 30.
10:20:33 I MOVE THAT ITEM.
10:20:34 38.
10:20:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:20:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA HAS MOVED ITEM 38.
10:20:39 MR. MIRANDA HAS SECONDED IT.
10:20:41 ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE ITEM?
10:20:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:20:45 >> CARLSON ABSTAINS.
10:20:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:20:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:20:48 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:20:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:20:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:20:51 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
10:20:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
10:20:59 MR. VIERA, TRANSPORTATION, ITEMS 40 THROUGH 41.
10:21:04 >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 40 AND 41.
10:21:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA MOVED IT.
10:21:07 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
10:21:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:21:12 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:21:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:21:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:21:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:21:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:21:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:21:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:21:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 42.
10:21:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING FOR 42
10:21:33 THROUGH 47.
10:21:35 >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:21:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE] 42 --
10:21:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 43, 44, 45, 46 AND 47, I BELIEVE, SIR,
10:21:46 ARE ALL FOR AUGUST THE 26th AT 9:30 A.M.
10:21:50 I MOVE THOSE, SIR.
10:21:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED THOSE.
10:21:53 MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED, I BELIEVE.
10:21:55 ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT.
10:22:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS 42 PART OF THE MOTION TO SET?
10:22:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT IS.
10:22:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 42 THROUGH 47.
10:22:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:22:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CLARIFICATION ON 42, DIFFERENT DATE, JULY
10:22:13 29 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:22:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU WOULD BE CORRECT, SIR.
10:22:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE PASSED 42 BY ITSELF EARLIER.
10:22:23 YES, SIR.
10:22:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:22:28 WE HAVE A SECOND.
10:22:30 ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. SHELBY.
10:22:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, PLEASE.
10:22:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:22:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:22:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:22:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
10:22:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:22:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:22:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:22:42 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:22:43 WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET SOMEBODY TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC
10:22:47 HEARINGS.
10:22:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:22:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:22:52 MR. CITRO HAS SECONDED.
10:22:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:22:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEMS 51 THROUGH 55, I BELIEVE --
10:23:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE SEEN AND WATCHED THE VIDEOS OF ITEMS
10:23:12 51 THROUGH 55.
10:23:14 I WAS ABSENT AT FIRST READING, AND I HAVE SEEN ALL THE
10:23:17 DOCUMENTATION.
10:23:17 THANK YOU.
10:23:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:23:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU HAVE THE 9:00
10:23:23 PUBLIC HEARINGS, 48 AND 49.
10:23:25 ARE THOSE OPEN?
10:23:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERYTHING IS OPEN NOW.
10:23:29 GOING ON 10:30.
10:23:33 >>THE CLERK: MINUS 56 BECAUSE IT IS NOT 10:30 YET.
10:23:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT THE COUNCIL'S INTENT TO GO IN ORDER
10:23:42 AND TAKE 48 AND 49 FIRST THEN?
10:23:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:23:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:23:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 48.
10:23:51 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JAN
10:23:54 McLEAN, OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
10:23:56 I'M HERE ON ITEM 48, THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
10:23:59 THE PROPOSED DESIGNATION OF A BROWNFIELD FOR THE
10:24:02 REHABILITATION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 376 OF FLORIDA STATUTES.
10:24:07 THIS PROPOSED BROWNFIELD IS A DESIGNATION OF A PROPERTY THAT
10:24:10 IS LOCATED AT 7210 INTERBAY BOULEVARD.
10:24:15 APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, HAS
10:24:19 BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF AND HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO MEET
10:24:23 ALL OF THE CRITERIA PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE.
10:24:26 THE DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN THE
10:24:29 STAFF REPORT THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE SIRE PACKAGE TO YOU
10:24:32 FOR YOUR REVIEW.
10:24:34 AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WILL
10:24:36 BE THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL WILL ADOPT A
10:24:41 RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY AS A
10:24:45 BROWNFIELD.
10:24:46 SO THIS PARTICULAR HEARING WOULD BE FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT
10:24:51 THAT ANYONE HERE TO MAKE COMMENT OR QUESTIONS THAT I COULD
10:24:57 ANSWER.
10:24:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
10:25:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. McLEAN, JUST TO LET THE RECORD SHOW,
10:25:06 THIS IS JUST FOR DESIGNATION OF BROWNFIELD.
10:25:08 IT HAS NOTHING ELSE TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY AT ALL.
10:25:11 >>JAN McLEAN: CORRECT.
10:25:13 JUST THE DESIGNATION OF THE BROWNFIELD.
10:25:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR
10:25:18 NOT JUST FOR OURSELVES BUT THE PUBLIC.
10:25:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOME SPEAKERS READY TO SPEAK?
10:25:28 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK OUTSIDE OF THE
10:25:30 APPLICANTS.
10:25:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
10:25:34 MS. McLEAN, ARE YOU DONE?
10:25:36 >>JAN McLEAN: THAT'S ALL THE ACTION REQUIRED OF COUNCIL
10:25:38 TODAY.
10:25:39 THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL
10:25:42 OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK OR ANY QUESTIONS OR
10:25:45 ANSWERS TO BE HAD, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE CITY
10:25:48 COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT THE RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY
10:25:52 AS A BROWNFIELD.
10:25:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:25:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
10:25:55 THANK YOU.
10:25:56 JUST TO CONFIRM WHETHER THERE IS NO ONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR
10:25:59 IN PERSON HERE TO SPEAK.
10:26:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS FROM THE LIST I
10:26:05 HAVE.
10:26:05 >>THE CLERK: THEY ARE THE APPLICANTS.
10:26:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR ON THIS ITEM?
10:26:11 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
10:26:25 >>JAN McLEAN: THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE ONLY TO ANSWER ANY
10:26:30 QUESTIONS.
10:26:30 AS MR. CITRO HAD ASKED ME, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE DESIGNATION
10:26:34 OF THE BROWNFIELD.
10:26:35 WE WOULDN'T WANT TO GET OUT OF THE CONTEXT OF THAT.
10:26:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON 48.
10:26:41 >>JAN McLEAN: THERE'S NO MOTION.
10:26:43 THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED TODAY.
10:26:45 IT WAS JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING.
10:26:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO CLOSE THEN PLEASE.
10:26:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CLOSE.
10:26:53 SECOND?
10:26:54 SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
10:26:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:56 ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING JUNE 24, 2021,
10:27:05 6 P.M. FOR ANYONE LISTENING.
10:27:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 49.
10:27:13 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:27:14 THIS IS DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:27:18 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.
10:27:20 ON THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR COMPONENT OF THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT
10:27:23 TAX.
10:27:25 MA'AM, IF I COULD ASK YOU TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
10:27:29 ARE YOU SEEING IT ADEQUATELY?
10:27:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
10:27:48 >>DENNIS ROGERO: OUTSTANDING.
10:27:49 OUTSTANDING.
10:27:50 THANK YOU.
10:27:50 COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE THE SIXTH AND FINAL
10:27:54 FIVE-YEAR SEGMENT OF THE 30-YEAR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX OR
10:27:57 AS WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL IT, THE CIT.
10:28:00 WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND DISCUSSING
10:28:03 HOW WE PLAN FOR ITS EXPIRATION.
10:28:06 OF COURSE, AS WE DISCUSSED, THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT
10:28:09 ANOTHER CIT WILL FOLLOW THIS ONE.
10:28:11 I BELIEVE YOU HEARD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SPEAK TO THAT
10:28:15 POSSIBILITY LAST WEEK, BUT IT'S ONLY SENSIBLE FROM OUR
10:28:18 PERSPECTIVE AT THIS TIME TO PLAN FOR NOT HAVING THAT FUNDING
10:28:22 IN FISCAL YEAR 2026.
10:28:25 FIRST, A QUICK REFRESH ON THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS AND HOW WE
10:28:32 GOT HERE.
10:28:33 AS YOU REMEMBER, IT IS A COUNTYWIDE HALF-CENT SALES TAX VIA
10:28:37 ORDINANCE IN THE SUMMER OF 1996 THAT INCLUDES THE COUNTY,
10:28:40 THE CITIES, AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
10:28:45 IT SUCCESSFULLY WENT TO REFERENDUM IN THE FALL OF 1996.
10:28:52 PARDON ME.
10:28:53 AND HENCE 30 YEARS LATER JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FISCAL
10:28:59 YEAR 2026.
10:29:00 I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME AUTHORIZED USES YOU SEE HERE, GENERALLY,
10:29:06 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, FACILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC
10:29:09 SAFETY VEHICLES, AND DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS.
10:29:14 AS OF SEPTEMBER 2020, WE SPENT NEARLY ONE HALF A BILLION
10:29:19 DOLLARS.
10:29:20 IT'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE AN IMPORTANT REVENUE
10:29:23 SOURCE FOR US.
10:29:24 HERE IS OUR COLLECTION HISTORY.
10:29:29 YOU SEE IT STARTED OUT RATHER MODEST, ABOUT FIVE MILLION
10:29:34 DOLLARS.
10:29:34 AND OVERALL HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE.
10:29:38 OF COURSE, THE GREAT RECESSION INTERRUPTED WHAT WAS QUITE A
10:29:43 RUN, AS DID THE PANDEMIC.
10:29:44 YOU CAN SEE WE WERE ON TRACK FOR QUITE A NICE INCREASE
10:29:47 THERE.
10:29:48 WE'LL SEE IF WE GET BACK TO IT.
10:29:50 BUT IT HAS COME FROM $5 MILLION ANNUALLY TO OVER $20 MILLION
10:29:54 ANNUALLY.
10:29:55 SO WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TRANSITIONING FROM THIS REVENUE
10:30:03 SOURCE.
10:30:03 DURING THE LAST FIVE-YEAR COMPONENT, THE OVERWHELMING
10:30:06 MAJORITY OF FUNDING THAT ISN'T OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR DEBT
10:30:11 SERVICE HAS BEEN USED TO PAY FOR WHAT YOU SEE HERE, PUBLIC
10:30:14 SAFETY VEHICLES, NEARLY $30 MILLION, AND PARKS AND
10:30:18 RECREATION PROJECTS, REPAIRS AND RENOVATIONS, NEARLY $9
10:30:22 MILLION.
10:30:23 LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, IT'S PRUDENT TO START THINKING HOW
10:30:26 WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE LOSS OF THIS REVENUE WHEN WE
10:30:29 STILL HAVE THESE NEEDS AND THE NEEDS ARE ONLY INCREASING.
10:30:33 SO TO THAT END, OUR NEXT SLIDES DETAIL OUR RECOMMENDED PLAN.
10:30:38 FIRST UP, OUR VEHICLES.
10:30:45 YOU SEE HERE AND AS I'VE SHARED WITH YOU, WE RECENTLY WENT
10:30:51 OUT TO AN EXTERNAL THIRD-PARTY PROFESSIONAL, AND THEY'VE
10:30:55 RECOMMENDED THAT WE INVEST $11 MILLION ANNUALLY FOR GENERAL
10:31:00 FUND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.
10:31:02 WHEN I SAY GENERAL FUND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, I DON'T
10:31:05 NECESSARILY MEAN SOLELY FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
10:31:07 IT'S THOSE VEHICLES THAT CANNOT BE FUNDED, FOR INSTANCE, BY
10:31:10 YOUR UTILITIES, BY SOLID WASTE, BY WATER, WASTEWATER,
10:31:14 ET CETERA.
10:31:16 AND $11 MILLION IS QUITE A SUM, BUT LET ME BE CLEAR, OVER
10:31:20 THE YEARS WE'VE APPROPRIATED A GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING OF
10:31:24 VEHICLES, BUT WE HAVE AND HAVE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF VEHICLE
10:31:28 NEEDS ACROSS THE CITY, SO WE'VE FALLEN BEHIND.
10:31:31 QUITE SIMPLY, WE NEED TO CATCH UP WITH REPLACING VEHICLES
10:31:35 ACROSS THE CITY AND PLAN FOR THE NEW ONES GOING FORWARD.
10:31:39 OUR AGING FLEET CONTINUES TO HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON OUR
10:31:42 MAINTENANCE COSTS AND WORKLOAD.
10:31:44 SO THE MAYORS AND CITY COUNCILS CONTINUING EMPHASIS ON
10:31:53 PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUR NEED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES, YOU
10:31:58 SEE HERE WE CRAFTED A PLAN TO MAINTAIN THE RECENT CIT
10:32:03 FUNDING OF ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, AND
10:32:09 BEGIN TO RAMP UP THE GENERAL FUND SPENDING.
10:32:16 WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WE RUN OUT OF THAT CAPITAL -- I'M
10:32:22 SORRY, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX REVENUE, THE SAME TIME, THIS
10:32:25 PLAN WILL ALLOW US TO CATCH UP ON THOSE VEHICLES BACK LOGS.
10:32:31 NEXT UP, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM.
10:32:41 AS YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE SYSTEM, MANAGING
10:32:44 OVER 3500 ACRES, NEARLY 200 PARKS, AROUND 1600 PROGRAMS.
10:32:50 THE LIST JUST GOES ON.
10:32:52 AND, BY THE WAY, IT'S NATIONALLY -- IT'S BEEN NOMINATED
10:32:56 NATIONALLY FOR A GOLD MEDAL, THREE YEARS IN A ROW.
10:33:00 WE'LL KNOW THIS YEAR BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
10:33:04 WE LOVE OUR PARKS, AND RIGHTLY SO.
10:33:06 SO, AGAIN, GIVEN THE MAYOR'S AND YOUR CONTINUING EMPHASIS
10:33:12 AND PRIORITY ON PARKS AND RECREATION, GOING FORWARD, WE
10:33:15 THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO CONTINUE THE PAST PARKS AND RECREATION
10:33:20 CIT FUNDING LEVEL OF ABOUT $8 MILLION OVER THE FIVE-YEAR
10:33:24 PERIOD, AND SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW WITH THE VEHICLES, START
10:33:30 RAMPING UP THE GENERAL FUND COMMITMENT FOR THAT TIME WHEN WE
10:33:34 DON'T HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX FUNDING ANY LONGER.
10:33:38 NOW, ON TO THE TOTAL FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
10:33:49 PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, HERE'S WHAT THE PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
10:33:52 A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE MAIN
10:33:56 ITEM.
10:33:57 YOU SEE, OF COURSE, THE ESTIMATED REVENUES.
10:34:01 LITTLE OVER $20 MILLION A YEAR.
10:34:04 IF WE GET BACK ON TRACK, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL KEEP GOING
10:34:07 UP, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS, BUT YOU'VE HEARD ME MENTION DEBT
10:34:11 SERVICE AND BOND PAYMENTS EARLIER, AND YOU SEE HERE IN
10:34:15 YELLOW ABOUT HALF OF THE FUNDING THAT COMES IN EVERY YEAR IS
10:34:18 ALREADY OBLIGATED TO DEBT SERVICE, LEAVING US ABOUT 10
10:34:23 MILLION OR SO DOLLARS ANNUALLY.
10:34:28 HERE YOU SEE THE PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLE COMPONENT WE TALKED
10:34:31 ABOUT.
10:34:33 AND LINE NUMBER THREE, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, I'D LIKE TO
10:34:39 ENTER INTO MORE DETAIL.
10:34:41 THAT'S PRIMARILY PARKS, AS WE DISCUSSED.
10:34:45 LINE 8, LINE 9, REPAIR AND RENOVATION AND, OF COURSE, THE
10:34:50 MASTER PLAN COMING UP.
10:34:51 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A PLAN TO FUND WHAT WE
10:34:55 ANTICIPATE WILL BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN NEEDS FROM THAT
10:34:58 MASTER PLAN.
10:34:59 YOU WILL RECALL, COUNCIL, THAT WE RECEIVED A BUILD GRANT,
10:35:07 THAT'S $25 MILLION FOR COMPLETION OF THE RIVERWALK ON THE
10:35:11 WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER AND IMPROVEMENTS ALONG ROME AVENUE.
10:35:14 AGAIN, $25 MILLION.
10:35:16 THAT'S GREAT NEWS, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE A $5 MILLION MATCH.
10:35:21 SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL ITS FORMER NAME OF TIGER, AND IT
10:35:29 SIGNIFICANTLY FUNDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RIVERWALK ON THE
10:35:31 EAST SIDE.
10:35:32 THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT ONLY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
10:35:36 IN SUMMARY, THIS IS EXHIBIT A IN YOUR PACKAGE.
10:35:45 NEARLY $109 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS IN FUNDING THAT
10:35:50 CONCENTRATES OUR PRIORITIES, AGAIN, ON PUBLIC SAFETY
10:35:54 VEHICLES AND PARKS AND RECREATION.
10:35:56 BUT IS FRAMED TO GIVE US FLEXIBILITY AS OUR NEEDS, OUR
10:36:00 PRIORITIES, YOUR PRIORITIES MAY CHANGE OVER THE NEXT FIVE
10:36:05 YEARS.
10:36:05 FINALLY, OF COURSE, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
10:36:12 WE HAVE TO HAVE A COMPLETED RESOLUTION TO HILLSBOROUGH
10:36:15 COUNTY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
10:36:18 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TIME THIS MORNING AND THE TIME IN
10:36:21 OUR BRIEFINGS, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:36:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, I SAW YOUR HAND FIRST.
10:36:28 YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:36:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:36:30 THANK YOU, DENNIS, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:36:33 ON A LIGHTER NOTE, I'M GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO USE THAT
10:36:37 GREEN PEN INSTEAD OF A RED PEN.
10:36:41 I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL IN REGARD TO THIS ITEM.
10:36:51 THE YOUNG LADY SORT OF ACCUSED THE CITY AND ACCUSED COUNCIL
10:36:56 OF NOT BEING ABLE TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS, WHICH I THOUGHT
10:36:59 WAS A LITTLE HARSH BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY 25 YEARS AGO, AND
10:37:05 WE ALL REMEMBER IT.
10:37:08 MR. MIRANDA REMEMBERS IT VERY WELL.
10:37:10 PASSED THIS HALF-CENT SALES TAX.
10:37:13 WE IMPOSED IT ON OURSELVES AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE AS A
10:37:16 COMMUNITY WE FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO FUND
10:37:20 THESE PROJECTS.
10:37:21 AND OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, GOING ON 30 YEARS, I THINK THE
10:37:28 CITY HAS USED THE MONEY FAIRLY WISELY FOR PARKS AND REC, FOR
10:37:35 BUYING POLICE CARS, FOR BUYING FIRE ENGINES, ET CETERA, TO
10:37:40 THE TUNE -- AND THEN I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE
10:37:44 DONE FOR THESE BOND ISSUES, BUT PROBABLY RELATED TO SOME
10:37:49 BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
10:37:51 WE KEPT OUR MILLAGE PRETTY MUCH STATIC FOR AS LONG AS I CAN
10:38:00 REMEMBER, EXCEPT FOR I THINK ONE YEAR WHEN IT WAS BUMPED UP
10:38:04 SLIGHTLY, I THINK, PERHAPS IN RESPONSE TO THE RECESSION.
10:38:07 BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE MILLAGE RATE HAS STAYED THE SAME.
10:38:10 AND WHEN YOU DO RUN INTO SHORTFALLS, IT'S WONDERFUL THE
10:38:17 COMMUNITY IMPOSED THIS HALF-CENT SALES TAX ON ITSELF TO HELP
10:38:20 WITH THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES.
10:38:23 SO MY ONLY QUESTION, AND YOU AND I DISCUSSED THIS BRIEFLY
10:38:27 THE OTHER DAY, DENNIS.
10:38:29 WE'VE ALREADY GOT A BEAUTIFUL RIVERWALK ON ONE SIDE OF THE
10:38:31 RIVER AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NICE RIVERWALK ON THE
10:38:34 OTHER SIDE.
10:38:35 HAVE YOU HEARD ANY TALK WITH MS. DUNCAN OR ANY OF THE OTHER
10:38:40 FOLKS IN CONSTRUCTION ABOUT A POSSIBLE BRIDGE TO CONNECT THE
10:38:45 TWO?
10:38:46 IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD DO THAT WITH ANY OF THE TIGER,
10:38:50 SLASH, BUILD MONEY?
10:38:53 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE READER, OF COURSE, AT VARIOUS TIMES
10:38:55 OVER THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY UPON RECEIPT OF THE TIGER GRANT
10:38:58 AND THE BLOSSOMING, IF YOU WILL, OF THE RIVERWALK ALONG THE
10:39:01 EAST SIDE, I HEARD OF A POTENTIAL BRIDGE CONNECTING THE TWO
10:39:05 SIDES.
10:39:06 I'VE SEEN NOTHING.
10:39:08 I WOULD DEFER TO MS. DUNCAN.
10:39:09 OF COURSE, WE CAN REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
10:39:12 I'VE SEEN NOTHING CONCRETE ABOUT THAT EVENTUALITY.
10:39:17 WE TALKED FROM A LOGISTICAL PERSPECTIVE HOW NICE IT WOULD
10:39:19 BE, ESPECIALLY IF THAT SIDE OF THE RIVER GETS AS ACTIVATED
10:39:23 AS THE CURRENT EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER.
10:39:25 NOTHING CONCRETE AS FAR AS I'M AWARE OF, THOUGH.
10:39:28 OF COURSE, SPECIFIC TO THE BUILD GRANT, WE CAN LOOK AND SEE
10:39:33 WHAT SORT OF RESTRICTIONS MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN PLACE
10:39:37 REGARDING.
10:39:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROGERO, I THINK I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF
10:39:41 OF COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND KEEPING US
10:39:44 IN THE GREEN INSTEAD OF THE RED.
10:39:46 THANK YOU.
10:39:46 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
10:39:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, MR. VIERA, MR. MANISCALCO,
10:39:50 CITRO AND CARLSON.
10:39:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:39:54 I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:39:56 ALONG WITH THE SAME LINES MR. DINGFELDER WAS SPEAKING ON,
10:39:59 SEE, THAT VOTE -- THERE WERE TWO VOTES TAKEN ON THE CIT TAX.
10:40:04 ONE WAS TAKEN IN FEBRUARY OF THAT SAME YEAR, THE LATTER IN
10:40:08 SEPTEMBER OF THAT SAME YEAR.
10:40:10 THERE WAS A VOTE TAKEN BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN FEBRUARY OF
10:40:13 THAT YEAR.
10:40:14 WHAT HAPPENED IS THIS: IT FAILED.
10:40:17 IT DIDN'T FAIL BECAUSE OF THE COMPONENTS.
10:40:19 IT FAILED BECAUSE THERE WAS LITTLE BACKING FROM THOSE THAT
10:40:22 WERE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THE ONE THAT WAS COMING BACK
10:40:25 LATER.
10:40:25 YOU SEE, IN FEBRUARY, NO ONE SPENT ANY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY
10:40:29 OR ANY AT ALL TO PASS THAT SO IT WOULD BE FOR THE SCHOOLS,
10:40:33 THE COUNTY, AND THE CITIES FOR THE PROJECT THAT THEY LISTED.
10:40:37 HOWEVER, IT NEVER CAUGHT FIRE BECAUSE THERE WAS LITTLE
10:40:42 DEBATE AND THERE WAS NOT ADVERTISING ON TV, ON RADIO, ON
10:40:45 NEWSPAPERS, BACK YOUR CITY OR BACK YOUR COUNTY OR BACK YOUR
10:40:49 SCHOOL SYSTEM, SO IT FAILED.
10:40:50 HOWEVER, THOSE THAT WANTED IT PASSED -- PARTICIPATE IN THE
10:40:57 FIRST ONE.
10:40:57 THE SEPTEMBER VOTE OF '96 PASSED IT ON A 51-49 VOTE, AFTER
10:41:03 SPENDING ABOUT $464,000 ON ONE SIDE AND THE PUBLIC SIDE,
10:41:09 MINIMAL TO NOTHING.
10:41:10 NOT A PENNY, MAYBE.
10:41:11 SO IT PASSED 51-49.
10:41:14 THE LION'S SHARE WAS TAKEN AWAY IN SOME INSTANCE.
10:41:20 NOT ONLY WAS IT TAKEN AWAY.
10:41:22 THERE WERE EVENTS PUT IN THE CONTRACT THAT IF SOMETHING
10:41:26 HAPPENED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT ENTITY, I'M TRYING TO
10:41:30 MAKE IT AS VAGUE AS POSSIBLE SO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE
10:41:34 AT, THAT THE FIRST $2 MILLION OF ANY EVENT ON THAT LAND WENT
10:41:39 TO THE OWNER OF THAT TEAM.
10:41:40 THAT'S REALLY, REALLY NICE.
10:41:43 AND THE SECOND MONIES AFTER THAT FIRST TWO MILLION WILL BE
10:41:49 SPLIT.
10:41:49 WONDERFUL IDEA.
10:41:51 WHAT DID THEY DO FOR THE 2 MILLION AND WHAT DID THEY DO FOR
10:41:55 THE SPLIT?
10:41:56 TELL YOU WHAT THEY DID.
10:41:57 NOTHING.
10:41:58 THEY COLLECTED THE MONEY.
10:42:00 THE SPORTS AUTHORITY IS THE ONE THAT'S ON THE HOOK TO
10:42:02 PUTTING ON THESE EVENTS AT CERTAIN NAMED STADIUM.
10:42:07 THEY KEPT THE FIRST 2 MILLION OF THE MONIES AND THE SPORTS
10:42:10 AUTHORITY WAS ON THE HOOK TO MAKE THE MONEY.
10:42:15 I'M NOT AGAINST.
10:42:16 I'M NOT HERE TO ASK ANYONE TO LEAVE.
10:42:18 NOT HERE TO ASK ANYONE TO STAY, BUT THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF
10:42:22 CITIES.
10:42:22 IN FACT, GOING DOWN INTERNATIONAL.
10:42:25 BOTH.
10:42:25 MOST SPORTS NOW ARE NOT PLAYED IN AMERICA BECAUSE THEY HAVE
10:42:28 SATURATED THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SO MUCH THAT IN ORDER TO GET
10:42:32 MORE REVENUE IN, THEY HAVE TO GO TO MEXICO, SPAIN, ITALY,
10:42:37 BRITAIN, ENGLAND, SOMEWHERE TO GET THE FUNDS TO RAISE THEIR
10:42:41 REVENUES COMING IN.
10:42:42 I THINK THIS CASE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
10:42:46 I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS HAD AN AWARENESS.
10:42:51 WHETHER I'M HERE OR NOT, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
10:42:54 I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF US WILL BE HERE OR NOT.
10:42:56 BUT WE HAVE TO GET PREPARED BECAUSE THIS IS JUST AROUND THE
10:42:59 CORNER.
10:43:00 FIVE YEARS MAY SEEM A LONG WAY OUT, BUT IT'S REALLY A SHORT
10:43:04 PERIOD OF TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT HISTORY, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
10:43:07 NEXT FIVE YEARS.
10:43:08 IF THIS CITY, THIS COUNTY, AND THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM WANT
10:43:12 ANYTHING TO GO RIGHT, THEY BETTER START GETTING TOGETHER AND
10:43:15 START MAKING A PLAN.
10:43:17 I WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TODAY, BUT I WILL THE NEXT FEW
10:43:19 MONTHS, THAT THOSE THREE ENTITIES, THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE
10:43:22 COUNTY, AND THE CITY START LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
10:43:24 TO THIS AREA WHEN THIS TAX ENDS AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO
10:43:29 SUPPLEMENT IT.
10:43:30 BECAUSE IF IT ENDS THE WAY IT IS, WHERE IS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM
10:43:34 GOING TO GET THE MONEY?
10:43:34 WHERE IS THE COUNTY GOING TO GET THE MONEY AND WHERE IS THE
10:43:36 CITY GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING
10:43:39 NOW FOR 30 YEARS WITH THAT MONEY?
10:43:41 IT'S GOING THE RIGHT WAY.
10:43:43 I'M NOT HERE TO TAX THE PEOPLE.
10:43:44 THAT'S UP TO THEM.
10:43:45 BUT SOONER OR LATER, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER VOTE TAKEN ON HOW
10:43:49 WE WANT TO FUND THIS AREA.
10:43:52 I'VE HEARD RUMORS AND RUMORS YOU CAN'T RELY ON.
10:43:56 HEARD ONE RUMOR THAT ONE ENTITY WANTS SOMETHING TO COVER
10:43:59 SOMETHING THAT THEY NOW LEASE FOR ALMOST NOTHING FOR THE
10:44:02 NEXT 30 YEARS WITHOUT INCREASE IN RATE.
10:44:05 JUST THINK OF 30 YEARS.
10:44:07 I'LL GO BACK AND DO A LITTLE STUDY ON MY OWN.
10:44:10 WHAT GASOLINE COST 30 YEARS AGO, WHAT A LOAF OF BREAD COST
10:44:13 30 YEARS AGO AND WHERE IS IT AT TODAY.
10:44:16 WHAT AN APARTMENT RENTED FOR 30 YEARS AGO AND WHAT IT RENTS
10:44:19 TODAY.
10:44:19 WHAT AN AUTOMOBILE COST 30 YEARS AGO, WHAT IT COSTS TODAY.
10:44:23 WHAT WAS A TICKET TO RIDE AN AIRPLANE TO GO FROM POINT A TO
10:44:26 POINT B?
10:44:27 WHAT WAS YOUR INSURANCE ON THE CAR 30 YEARS AGO AND WHAT
10:44:30 DOES THE INSURANCE COST TODAY?
10:44:32 WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO REALIZE THAT
10:44:35 WE GAVE IT AWAY.
10:44:37 THAT'S GOT TO STOP, NOT ONLY IN THIS CITY -- AND THE WHOLE
10:44:41 COUNTRY HAS TO STOP.
10:44:42 WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS
10:44:45 WE HAVE TO DO YET WE CAN'T DO IT REALLY THE WAY WE WANT DO
10:44:49 IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THE CASH, THE DOLLARS TO
10:44:52 DO IT WITH.
10:44:53 I'LL STOP THERE.
10:44:54 I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE A SERMON, ALTHOUGH I STARTED TO GIVE
10:44:58 ONE, I'LL STOP MYSELF.
10:44:59 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:45:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:45:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:45:03 I WANTED TO SINGLE OUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA YOU ALWAYS BRING
10:45:06 THIS ISSUE UP, SIR, SEEMS EVERY COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
10:45:09 I THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT REGARD, COUNCILMAN
10:45:13 MIRANDA.
10:45:14 THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
10:45:17 THERE ARE WANTS AND THERE ARE NEEDS.
10:45:18 A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT THIS TAX PAYS FOR ARE SOMEWHERE
10:45:24 BETWEEN WANTS AND NEEDS, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE NEEDS IN
10:45:28 OUR COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:45:31 THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS IN WHICH YOU CAN SUPPORT PUBLIC
10:45:35 SAFETY AS A COMMUNITY, AND I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THAT IT
10:45:38 DOESN'T END WITH PUTTING A LAPEL, SOMETHING ON YOUR LAPEL OR
10:45:41 PUTTING A NICE STICKER ON YOUR CAR.
10:45:44 A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO DIG INTO YOUR PARKING LOT BECAUSE
10:45:49 FIRST RESPONDERS RELY ON PUBLIC BUDGETS.
10:45:51 PUBLIC BUDGETS ARE FUNDED THROUGH SOMETHING THAT IS A
10:45:53 FOUR-LETTER WORD IN POLITICS.
10:45:56 TAXES.
10:45:57 I GUESS A FIVE-LETTER WORD.
10:45:59 IN POLITICS.
10:46:01 WHEN THIS COMES UP FOR RENEWAL, WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT, SOME
10:46:08 SORT OF REPLACEMENT REVENUE TYPE OF MECHANISM, I HOPE THAT
10:46:12 WE HAVE THE LEADERSHIP TO LEAD WHENEVER IT COMES TO THIS
10:46:17 ISSUE, ESPECIALLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:46:20 I TALKED ABOUT FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF NOW HAVING A
10:46:24 PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, MAKING SURE
10:46:27 THAT WE KNOW WHERE ALL OF OUR DEFICITS ARE AT AND MAKING
10:46:30 SURE THAT WE HAVE A FINANCIAL BRIDGE TO ADDRESSING THOSE
10:46:33 DEFICITS.
10:46:33 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
10:46:36 IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I RAN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE ABOUT FIVE
10:46:39 YEARS AGO IS BECAUSE OF MY PASSION FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
10:46:43 WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT CORE CRITICAL ISSUE IN THIS
10:46:47 REVENUE FORMULA BECAUSE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE WATCHING,
10:46:54 OUR COMMUNITIES ARE WATCHING.
10:46:55 BUT THE COMMUNITY -- THAT WORD IS USED A LOT -- THE
10:46:58 COMMUNITY HAS TO KNOW.
10:46:59 AND WHEN I SAY THE COMMUNITY, I MEAN ALL THE COMMUNITY HAS
10:47:02 TO KNOW THAT WHEN WE SAY WE SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND
10:47:06 THE WORK THAT THEY DO, OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND THE WORK THAT
10:47:09 THEY DO, OUR EMERGENCY PERSONNEL AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO,
10:47:12 THAT IS BACKED UP BY TAX MONEY.
10:47:16 THAT IS BACKED UP BY TAX DOLLARS.
10:47:18 TWO-THIRDS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET GOES TO PUBLIC
10:47:21 SAFETY.
10:47:21 THERE IS A REAL RELATEDNESS OR CONNECTED -- THERE IS A
10:47:25 CONNECTIVITY THERE THAT WE HAVE TO KNOW.
10:47:29 SO THIS ISSUE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST RESPONDER ISSUE.
10:47:34 AND IF WE AS A COMMUNITY LET THIS GO WITHOUT APPROPRIATE
10:47:38 FUNDS -- I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY -- TAKE A LOOK AT THE
10:47:40 NUMBERS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
10:47:42 WE'RE ALREADY RUNNING BACKWARDS.
10:47:44 TAKE A LOOK AT TAMPA FIRE.
10:47:46 THESE ARE -- THESE AREN'T SOMEWHERE BETWEEN WANTS AND NEEDS.
10:47:50 THIS IS A CORE CRITICAL NEED.
10:47:52 TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT, FIRE
10:47:54 STATION 13, ONE OF THE 50 BUSIEST FIRE STATIONS IN THE CITY
10:47:58 OF TAMPA -- STRIKE THAT, IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
10:48:01 THE BUSIEST FIRE STATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BY FAR AND
10:48:04 AWAY, THE NUMBER OF CALLS BETWEEN STATION 13 AND STATION 11
10:48:09 LEAVE A 25% DIFFERENCE.
10:48:11 BY FAR AND AWAY THE BUSIEST FAIR STATION IN THE CITY OF
10:48:14 TAMPA.
10:48:14 ONE OF THE 50 OR SO BUSIEST WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.
10:48:17 OUR FRIENDS AT CHANNELSIDE BADLY NEED -- NEED A FIRE
10:48:22 STATION.
10:48:22 FOUR OUT OF THE SIX STATIONS WITH THE LONGEST RESPONSE TIMES
10:48:26 ARE IN A GROWING AREA OF THE CITY, NEW TAMPA.
10:48:29 WEST TAMPA, WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING,
10:48:32 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:48:33 WE'RE EXPANDING THINGS IN WEST TAMPA.
10:48:37 WHERE ARE THE ACCOMPANYING FIRE STATIONS FOR THOSE ISSUES?
10:48:39 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN VISION,
10:48:42 WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND.
10:48:43 WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.
10:48:45 YOU FAST-FORWARD FOUR, FIVE YEARS LATER TO THE ISSUE THAT
10:48:48 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH, WE'RE NOT
10:48:51 RUNNING BEHIND.
10:48:51 WE'RE GOING TO BE DROWNING.
10:48:53 AND IT'S UP TO US TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT IF YOU SUPPORT
10:48:57 FIRST RESPONDERS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT MONEY TO
10:49:00 SUPPORT THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS.
10:49:02 AND THIS PROVIDES SUCH A KEY CRITICAL ISSUE FOR PUBLIC
10:49:07 SAFETY WHENEVER IT COMES TO OUR VEHICLES.
10:49:10 I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ISSUE.
10:49:11 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:49:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:49:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:15 MR. ROGERO, I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:49:19 AS THE CIT COMES TO AN END, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL REPLACE
10:49:23 THAT, IF ANYTHING.
10:49:25 LOOKING AT ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION AND HOW THAT'S TURNING
10:49:29 OUT, WE DON'T KNOW EVEN IF SOMETHING GETS ON THE BALLOT, IF
10:49:32 IT WILL SURVIVE ON THE BALLOT AND HAVE THAT FUNDING MOVING
10:49:35 FORWARD.
10:49:35 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN VIERA, THEY HAVE SAID A LOT
10:49:39 AND TOUCHED ON A LOT OF KEY POINTS.
10:49:41 MY THING IS, AND BEYOND THE IMPORTANCE OF FUNDING PUBLIC
10:49:45 SAFETY, BEYOND THE IMPORTANCE OF ALL THE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE
10:49:48 MOVING HERE, ALL THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND THE -- HOW BEHIND
10:49:55 WE ARE IN THOSE FIRE STATIONS, IN THOSE SERVICES THAT ARE
10:49:59 THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:50:01 I MEAN, THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
10:50:05 WE'RE NOT KEEPING UP.
10:50:06 WE'RE FALLING MORE AND MORE BEHIND.
10:50:10 ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I GET ARE THE QUALITY OF OUR
10:50:12 ROADS.
10:50:13 I KNOW THIS IS NOT STRICTLY A CIT ISSUE, BUT OUR ROADS ARE
10:50:17 DISGUSTING.
10:50:18 I DRIVE THROUGH THE CITY AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME COUNTY
10:50:21 ROADS WITHIN THE CITY AND CONFUSION OF WHO FUNDS WHAT.
10:50:24 BUT OUR ROADS ARE IN TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE SHAPE.
10:50:26 I KNOW WE APPROVED THE PIPES PROGRAM AND MANY OF OUR ROADS
10:50:30 WILL BE TORN UP FOR THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE LAID
10:50:34 DOWN AND REPAVED, BUT OUR ROADS ARE A MESS.
10:50:38 OUR SIDEWALKS ARE INCOMPLETE, LACKING, INEFFICIENT.
10:50:41 I THOUGHT THAT ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION MOVING FORWARD AND
10:50:45 SURVIVING WOULD GIVE US THAT FINANCING AND THOSE FUNDS IN
10:50:50 PLACE TO REMEDY THOSE, AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
10:50:55 UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THAT
10:50:57 MONEY.
10:50:58 BUT WE'RE FALLING FARTHER AND FARTHER BEHIND.
10:51:01 THE COST OF LIVING IS GOING UP.
10:51:03 WE'RE NOT KEEPING UP.
10:51:06 JUST THINGS ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE, AND THAT
10:51:08 FUNDING ISN'T THERE.
10:51:10 LOOKING AT THE COMMUNICATIONS TAX AND THE LOSS OF REVENUE
10:51:12 OVER THE LAST 10, 20 YEARS, BECAUSE OF CELL PHONES AND
10:51:16 REPLACING LANDLINES AND WHAT THE CITY HAS LOST.
10:51:20 IT'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
10:51:22 WHEN I HEAR COMMENTS OR READ COMMENTS THAT SAY "TAMPA
10:51:26 DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO LIVE WITHIN ITS MEANS," I MEAN, IT IS A
10:51:29 GENERAL IGNORANT STATEMENT.
10:51:31 LOOK AT THE SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE FACING.
10:51:34 OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY BUILT A STADIUM IN THE '90s.
10:51:36 OKAY, THAT'S ONE THING.
10:51:38 BUT LOOK AT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IMPACTS OUR BUDGETS AND WHY
10:51:41 WE HAVE TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS IN MOVING FORWARD.
10:51:44 WE HAVE NEEDS.
10:51:45 COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID IT ALL.
10:51:46 WE HAVE CRITICAL NEEDS THAT CANNOT BE IGNORED BUT WE HAVE TO
10:51:50 LOOK AT HOW DO WE FUND THOSE THINGS MOVING FORWARD.
10:51:53 IF THE CIT -- WHEN THE CIT ENDS IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS,
10:51:58 WHAT'S GOING TO REPLACE THAT?
10:51:59 THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER HIT TO OUR BUDGET MOVING INTO THE
10:52:02 LATTER PART OF THIS DECADE AND GOING FORWARD.
10:52:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:07 I'LL STOP THERE.
10:52:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:52:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:12 I WON'T PONTIFICATE TOO MUCH.
10:52:13 JUST GET TO A FEW POINTS.
10:52:15 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WHO HAS BEEN THE LEADER IN THE CIT TAX
10:52:21 AND HOPING TO GET A NEW TAX, AS HE STATED THERE WERE TWO
10:52:24 DIFFERENT VOTES.
10:52:25 THE FIRST VOTE WAS FOR FIRE AND POLICE AND FUNDING THEM.
10:52:28 THE SECOND VOTE CAME WITH ANOTHER INPUT, ANOTHER PART OF
10:52:33 THAT.
10:52:33 I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT'S HOW THE MAN IN BLACK GOT STARTED.
10:52:37 ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, WE ALL HEARD THE THINGS THAT THE
10:52:43 CITIZENS WANTED, REQUESTED FROM US.
10:52:45 THE BASIC NECESSITIES.
10:52:50 FRESH, CLEAN DRINKING WATER.
10:52:52 TAKE AWAY WASTE, BOTH SOLID AND LIQUID.
10:52:55 GOOD ROADS, BUT MORE ESPECIALLY, THEY SAID KEEP ME SAFE.
10:53:01 GIVE ME THE POLICE AND FIRE THAT WE NEED.
10:53:07 THIS TAX, I HOPE THAT OUR FRIENDS, OUR COLLEAGUES OVER IN
10:53:11 THE COUNTY ARE LISTENING, AND THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO COME UP
10:53:16 WITH ANOTHER FORM OF TAX THAT WILL HELP BOTH THE COUNTY WITH
10:53:20 SCHOOLS AND THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH OUR FIRE AND POLICE.
10:53:24 AS I MADE A STATEMENT LAST WEEK, WE NEED NEW BRICK AND
10:53:27 MORTAR AND FIRE STATIONS WITHOUT A DEBT.
10:53:31 MR. ROGERO, YOU HEARD THAT FROM ME EARLIER THIS WEEK ON MY
10:53:35 WISH LIST.
10:53:36 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
10:53:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGERO, THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE
10:53:42 GIVEN US IS GREAT PLANNING, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE
10:53:46 DONE, AND AS I SAID TO YOU EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE NEED TO
10:53:52 PLAN FOR THE WORST AND HOPE FOR THE BEST.
10:53:54 PLANNING FOR THE WORST IS THIS TAX GOES AWAY.
10:53:58 HOPING FOR THE BEST IS, AGAIN, OUR COLLEAGUES OVER IN THE
10:54:03 COUNTY, CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR COME UP WITH ANOTHER FORM OF
10:54:08 -- AND I HATE TO USE THE WORD -- IT IS A TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE
10:54:11 WORD -- TAXATION TO FUND US TO KEEP US SAFE THAT WILL
10:54:18 BENEFIT OUR FIRE AND POLICE, BUT, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY
10:54:21 MUCH, MR. ROGERO, FOR THIS PLAN.
10:54:23 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:54:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WE ALL HAD GREAT POINTS.
10:54:37 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE THINGS MY
10:54:39 COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID ABOUT THE NEED FOR INVESTING IN BASIC
10:54:42 INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:54:42 CHAIR GUDES HAS OFTEN SAID THAT HIS DISTRICT IS HUNGRY AND
10:54:50 WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS ISSUES IN EAST TAMPA AND THE REST OF
10:54:53 HIS DISTRICT.
10:54:54 MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS SOUTH TAMPA, I WOULD CHARACTERIZE AS
10:54:57 BEING ANGRY.
10:54:59 WE GET SOMETIMES A HUNDRED OR MORE E-MAILS A DAY FROM PEOPLE
10:55:02 WHO ARE VERY, VERY UPSET.
10:55:04 THEY ARE UPSET THAT THEY PAY A LOT OF TAXES AND OVER THE
10:55:07 LAST FEW YEARS, THEY HAVE SEEN THEIR TAX MONEY GO TO
10:55:10 FRIVOLOUS PROJECTS LIKE A $12 MILLION BOATHOUSE ON THE RIVER
10:55:13 INSTEAD OF BEING SPENT ON BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:55:15 THEY ARE MAD BECAUSE THEY PAY THE TAXES AND THEY DON'T SEE
10:55:18 THE IMMEDIATE BENEFIT OF IT.
10:55:20 IF YOU PAY A LOT OF TAXES AND YOUR ROAD IS TORN UP BECAUSE
10:55:23 OF POTHOLES AND THERE'S NO CITY MONEY TO REPLACE IT, THEN,
10:55:26 OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANGRY OR THE CITY DOESN'T
10:55:29 HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT A STOP SIGN IN OR A RED LIGHT IN TO
10:55:33 PROTECT PEOPLE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANGRY.
10:55:35 ALSO, AS PEOPLE HAVE GONE OUTSIDE MORE DURING COVID, THEY
10:55:39 REALIZE THAT THEIR PARKS ARE FALLING APART.
10:55:41 IT'S NOT JUST PARKS FALLING APART IN EAST TAMPA.
10:55:43 IT'S PARKS FALLING APART IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:55:46 WE HAVE BENCHES THAT PEOPLE CALL AND SAY THEIR KIDS GOT
10:55:49 SPLINTERS IN THEM BECAUSE THE BENCHES ARE FALLING APART.
10:55:52 SOME PLACES THERE AREN'T BENCHES AND NOT ENOUGH MAINTENANCE.
10:55:55 PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT THAT.
10:55:57 THEY WANT THE CITY AND COUNTY TO COVER THE BASIC SERVICES
10:56:02 INSTEAD OF JUST SPENDING ON FRIVOLOUS PROJECTS.
10:56:05 YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, THE FOLKS IN SOUTH TAMPA
10:56:10 IN PARTICULAR I THINK DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY
10:56:14 BECAUSE I THINK THE PERCEPTION, THE REALITY IS THAT THE
10:56:16 POLICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DO A GREAT JOB.
10:56:18 THEY KEEP FOLKS SAFE AND THEY SAVE LIVES EVERY DAY.
10:56:23 AND PEOPLE AREN'T SEEING THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE
10:56:26 HAVING IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO FUND
10:56:29 ALL THE FUTURE NEEDS IN PUBLIC SAFETY OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
10:56:32 PROBLEMS IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
10:56:34 ANYWAY, BOTTOM LINE IS I THANK ROGERO FOR FOCUSING ON THE
10:56:41 BASIC NECESSITIES.
10:56:43 YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING ROADS IN THIS.
10:56:45 ROADS AND FIXING POTHOLES IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART.
10:56:47 BUT FIXING PARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
10:56:50 AND ALSO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN PUBLIC SAFETY TO MAKE SURE
10:56:54 THE PUBLIC IS PROTECTED.
10:56:55 THANK YOU.
10:56:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
10:56:58 I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.
10:57:01 I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
10:57:04 MY BROTHER GAVE ME A CALL YESTERDAY MORNING AROUND ABOUT
10:57:09 8:00.
10:57:17 THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY, PROBABLY A 7- OR 8-MONTH OLD BABY, A
10:57:26 6-YEAR-OLD THAT WAS SLEEPING ON THE GROUND IN BETWEEN OUR
10:57:32 LOTS.
10:57:41 NO BLANKET.
10:57:42 NO NOTHING.
10:57:45 AND IT HAD BEEN REMOVED, THE MOTHER HAD NO PLACE TO GO.
10:57:53 I GOT THREE CALLS ON THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER
10:57:56 BUSINESSES CALLED ME ABOUT IT.
10:58:00 WHAT DISTURBED ME WAS ONE OF THE HOTELS, WHEN ALL OF THE
10:58:05 FOLKS SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO THAT YOUNG MOTHER AND THE
10:58:08 CHILDREN, THEY TRIED TO GET HER A PLACE TO STAY AT ONE OF
10:58:12 THE LOCAL HOTELS, MOTELS.
10:58:18 SHE REFUSED.
10:58:19 REFUSED BECAUSE THE OWNER SAID MIGHT MESS UP THE SHEETS.
10:58:31 AND I LOOK AT THE LITTLE HOTEL, AND -- GET A CALL AROUND
10:58:40 5:00.
10:58:41 MOTHER STILL HADN'T FOUND A PLACE YET.
10:58:45 EVERYONE GAVE HER MAYBE SIXTY, SEVENTY BUCKS, I'M TOLD.
10:58:56 SO WE TALK ABOUT C.I.T. AND THESE PROJECTS, I LOOK AT
10:59:03 HOUSING.
10:59:04 INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:59:08 MR. VIERA, YOU TALK ABOUT THE WANTS AND THE NEEDS.
10:59:11 YES, WE NEED FIRE STATIONS.
10:59:13 WE NEED POLICE.
10:59:18 BUT WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, GENTLEMEN.
10:59:21 I DON'T CARE HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU GOT NO PLACE TO STAY,
10:59:24 YOU GOT NO HOPE, YOU HAVE NOTHING.
10:59:26 YOU CAN'T LAY YOUR HEAD.
10:59:29 WE CAN'T CONTROL SOME OF THE HOUSING MARKETS, BUT IF WE HAD
10:59:32 DOLLARS OF OUR OWN NONSUBSIDIZED AREA WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
10:59:36 HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE.
10:59:39 NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE A LOT OF LUXURY HOMES INTO MARGINALIZED
10:59:43 COMMUNITIES AND PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, THEY ARE
10:59:46 FORCED TO LIVE AT DIFFERENT PLACES.
10:59:49 FOR ME WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TAXES, TAX DOLLARS, TO KNOW
10:59:56 EXACTLY TAX DOLLARS BEING UTILIZED, AND TO HELP THOSE IN
11:00:04 NEED.
11:00:05 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE, BUILDING
11:00:10 BUILDINGS THAT YOU CAN PUT PEOPLE IN, AND SOME OF THE
11:00:13 CONVERSATION WITH HOUSING, EVERYONE KNOWS OUR HOUSING
11:00:16 DEPARTMENT HAS A LOT OF CRITICAL ISSUES.
11:00:17 THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GET THE WORK OUT.
11:00:22 THE MONEY.
11:00:26 THEY AREN'T WORKING FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
11:00:28 THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, AND NOW MR.
11:00:33 SHELBY AND A FEW OTHERS, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, LAND USE, TO
11:00:38 IDENTIFY HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS
11:00:42 WORKFORCE IT REALLY BOTHERS ME.
11:00:46 I LOOK AT THE CATEGORY THEY ARE PUTTING PEOPLE IN, AND
11:00:51 DEVELOPERS.
11:00:54 YOU CAN'T BRING IN 300 UNITS AND SAY, OH, WE GOT 20
11:00:58 AFFORDABLE UNITS.
11:01:00 THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR PEOPLE.
11:01:02 SO IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER TAX, THAT
11:01:06 HAS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.
11:01:10 AND IT HAS TO BE THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT.
11:01:14 BECAUSE YOU CAN SELL THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, PEOPLE
11:01:17 NEED THE HOME, THE SHELTER.
11:01:25 IF I GOT A PLACE TO STAY, IF I AM WORKING AT McDONALD'S,
11:01:29 BURG AREA KING OR WALMART, I GOT SHELTER, I GOT HOPE.
11:01:33 BUT GOT TO FIND A PLACE TO GO.
11:01:48 LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT GOVERNMENT,
11:01:51 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DON'T DO.
11:01:53 I CAN TELL YOU THIS COUNCIL -- MORE OF US TO MAKE SURE WE
11:01:59 GET ON BOARD.
11:02:01 THAT'S WHY I AM GLAD SOME OF YOU GET OUT AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE
11:02:06 LIVING THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND THE FACTUAL BASIS OF IT.
11:02:10 IF YOU DON'T VISUALIZE WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, I DON'T
11:02:13 BELIEVE IT BUT ONCE YOU GET OUT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, AN
11:02:18 IDEA CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY.
11:02:23 AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN -- SEEING WHAT THE PEOPLE
11:02:29 ARE SAYING BUT WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE
11:02:34 OF EVERYTHING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THINGS GROW.
11:02:39 WITH THAT BEING SAID, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
11:02:43 MR. DINGFELDER, MR. MANISCALCO.
11:02:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:02:46 YOU BRING UP SOME GOOD POINTS.
11:02:49 I DON'T KNOW, AND PERHAPS LEGAL CAN HELP US OUT OR DENNIS,
11:02:56 IF CIT MONEY EVEN CAN AT THIS TIME BASED UPON THE ORIGINAL
11:03:03 REFERENDUM, IF C.I.T. MONEY COULD BE USED FOR HOUSING, IF IT
11:03:07 COULD, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A FEW MILLION GO IN THAT
11:03:10 DIRECTION, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS A LOT OF
11:03:14 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
11:03:16 SO THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
11:03:18 AND I SEE CATE POPPING UP.
11:03:20 MAYBE SHE'S GOT THE ANSWER TO THAT.
11:03:21 PERHAPS FUTURISTICALLY, AND I DON'T KNOW, HAVE WE AS A BODY
11:03:28 SENT A LETTER OVER TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN REGARD TO
11:03:33 RE-UPPING THE NEXT C.I.T. AGAIN?
11:03:37 HAVE WE DONE THAT YET?
11:03:39 OKAY.
11:03:40 AND MAYBE WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN NEW BUSINESS.
11:03:43 AND THEN SECONDLY, IF WE DO DISCUSS THAT AND DECIDE TO DO
11:03:48 THAT, MAYBE THE NEXT C.I.T. PROGRAM, IF THERE IS ONE, WOULD
11:03:53 INCLUDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE I
11:03:56 THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY KNOWS AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:04:00 IS A VERY REAL NEED, AS REAL AS PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT
11:04:04 ACTUALLY IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY
11:04:08 ISSUE DOWN TO THAT INDIVIDUAL LADY WHO HAS BEEN SLEEPING ON
11:04:11 THE GROUND. ANYWAY, SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS, CATE.
11:04:14 DID YOU WANT TO GIVE ME ANY GUIDANCE IN REGARD TO THE
11:04:16 CURRENTS PROGRAM?
11:04:18 >> BRIAN MORRISON.
11:04:24 SO THE PROCEEDS OF THE SURTAX HAVE TO BE SPENT IN VERY
11:04:28 SPECIFIC AREAS.
11:04:31 REQUIRING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT PURPOSES,
11:04:34 PUBLIC EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THE DEFINITION OF
11:04:39 INFRASTRUCTURE COMES FROM THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS ON
11:04:41 THE BALLOT WHEN THIS WAS PASSED.
11:04:45 BUT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, CAPITAL OUTLAY ASSOCIATED WITH
11:04:50 CONSTRUCTION, OR IMPROVEMENT OF -- FACILITIES WHICH HAVE A
11:04:55 LIFE EXPECTANCY OF FIVE OR MORE YEARS, AND ANY LAND
11:04:58 ACQUISITION, LAND IMPROVEMENT [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:05:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO THE
11:05:06 POSSIBILITY THAT CONSTRUCTION IS ASSOCIATED WITH AFFORDABLE
11:05:09 HOUSING?
11:05:10 >> SIR, FOR A PARTICULAR PROGRAM LIKE THAT, THIS WOULD HAVE
11:05:18 TO BE INCLUDED.
11:05:19 I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED SOME TODAY ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
11:05:22 DO AS THIS PARTICULAR C.I.T. SURTAX HAS EXPIRED.
11:05:28 AS WE LOOK TOWARD THE NEXT ONE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
11:05:31 WE WOULD WANT TO BRING UP, AND THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT
11:05:36 WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.
11:05:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR YOU FUTURISTICALLY BUT I MEAN WE
11:05:41 HAVE A LIST IN FRONT OF US TODAY THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE
11:05:43 AFFORDABLE HOUSE BEING.
11:05:44 BUT MY QUESTION IS, COULD IT INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF
11:05:50 THIS CITY AND THIS COUNCIL DESIRES?
11:05:58 BASED UPON YOUR READING OF THE EXISTING ORDINANCE AND
11:06:01 REFERENDUM?
11:06:02 >> BASED UPON MY READING, THAT WOULD BE QUITE A STRETCH.
11:06:08 WE DO HAVE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES, OF COURSE THAT CAN BE USED
11:06:11 FOR PUBLIC HOUSING, AND AS WE PRIORITIZE THOSE, I THINK IT
11:06:15 WOULD BE BEST TO LOOK TO THOSE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS, SO THE
11:06:19 FOCUS IN THAT DIRECTION.
11:06:21 WE WOULD BE REALLY STRETCHING THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE ARE
11:06:26 ALLOWED TO DO WITH THIS TAX IF SPENT IN THAT AREA.
11:06:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:06:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK PINELLAS DID IT WITH THE C.I.T.
11:06:38 PINELLAS DID INCLUDE HOUSING.
11:06:41 SO IF THIS BODY CHOOSES TO SEND A LETTER TO THE COUNTY I
11:06:44 THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE PINELLAS DID IT.
11:06:47 MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:06:51 >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED TO CITE, BECAUSE MY NAME WAS
11:06:54 MENTIONED, WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS UNDER THE C.I.T. I
11:06:56 AM TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAMS UNDER THE C.I.T.
11:06:58 IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THINGS LIKE
11:07:01 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FROM C.I.T.
11:07:05 I THINK OF THE TWO BIG TICKET ITEMS WHICH ARE PARKS AND
11:07:07 RECREATION, AND PUBLIC SAFETY, AND PARKS AND RECREATION
11:07:11 OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT.
11:07:13 BUT IF YOU TAKE THOSE TWO ISSUES, PARKS AND RECREATION
11:07:16 VERSUS PUBLIC SAFETY, ONE IS LIKE I SAID SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A
11:07:20 WANT AND A NEED.
11:07:21 THE OTHER ONE IS A NEED.
11:07:22 A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I MEAN, THIS COUNCIL, OR THE PRIOR
11:07:26 COUNCIL, ADDRESSED I THINK A GOOD BALANCE ON THOSE WITH THE
11:07:32 FISCAL YEAR 2018 BUDGET WITH A MILLAGE THAT COUNCILMAN
11:07:37 DINGFELDER BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF THE HISTORY OF THE
11:07:39 MILLAGE RATE.
11:07:41 THROUGH THAT BUDGET WE WERE ABLE TO FUND A GOOD NUMBER OF
11:07:43 PARKS AS WELL AS FIRE STATION 23 AND SOME OTHER ISSUES.
11:07:46 BUT THE C.I.T. TAX AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHICH IS WHY I TALKED
11:07:49 ABOUT PARKS AND PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES WITH POLICE AND FIRE,
11:07:56 AND GO TO THAT.
11:07:57 NOW WHETHER WE HAVE A DISCUSSION TO EXPAND IT, THAT WOULD BE
11:08:00 GREAT.
11:08:01 BUT WITHIN THE UNIVERSE WE LIVE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST NOT AN
11:08:05 OPTION.
11:08:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. MANISCALCO.
11:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS,
11:08:12 AND THIS IS NOT REALLY A C.I.T. TOPIC BUT YOU TALK ABOUT
11:08:15 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND JUST MY THOUGHTS THIS MORNING WHEN I
11:08:18 WAS HAVING COFFEE, WE READ DAILY PROPERTY SOLD, APARTMENTS
11:08:25 COME, AND THIS PART OF THE CITY OR A CERTAIN PART OF THE
11:08:29 CITY, IN THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA, WHERE IT'S HAPPENING.
11:08:32 WHY DON'T THEY FOCUS, THESE DEVELOPERS, ON OTHER PARTS OF
11:08:37 THE CITY?
11:08:38 YOU HAVE A MOTHER AND HER CHILDREN IN A CERTAIN PART OF
11:08:41 TOWN, LET'S SAY EAST TAMPA, EAST OF THE INTERSTATE, DISTRICT
11:08:45 5.
11:08:46 WHY THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT FOCUSING ON THIS PART OF THE
11:08:48 CITY?
11:08:49 I HAD A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY AND SAID WHAT IS THE
11:08:51 FOCUS POINT OF EAST TAMPA?
11:08:53 I SAID WHY NOT MAKE HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE LIKE A DALE MABRY,
11:08:56 MEANING THE INVESTMENT IN DALE MABRY, THAT WAS NOTHING 60
11:09:01 YEARS AGO, 50 YEARS AGO, NOT LIKE IT IS TODAY, WHEREAS
11:09:04 HILLSBOROUGH WAS A BUSY COMMERCIAL HUB WITH RESIDENTIAL ALL
11:09:08 AROUND IT.
11:09:09 IF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE SO HOT
11:09:12 MAKING SO MUCH MONEY, WHY NOT TAKE THEIR FOCUS AWAY FROM
11:09:16 THAT GANDY AREA, THESE AREAS THAT FLOOD, THESE AREAS THAT
11:09:20 ZONE 1 EVACUATIONS, AREAS WHEN HURRICANES COME IN, PEOPLE
11:09:25 GOT TO GET OUT AND THERE'S NARROW ROADS, WHY DON'T THEY
11:09:28 FOCUS THEIR INVESTMENTS ON PARTS OF THE CITY THAT AGAIN IT'S
11:09:31 NOT A C.I.T. DISCUSSION, ON PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NEED THE
11:09:35 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHERE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A PARK AND
11:09:42 WALK TO WORK.
11:09:44 YOU HAVE A STRONGER MIDDLE CLASS AND INVEST IN THAT
11:09:46 COMMUNITY IN A IS LACKING AND PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE
11:09:49 NEEDED, THE DESIRE IS THERE, THE DEMAND IS THERE, YET THEY
11:09:53 ARE BUILDING MORE AND MORE APARTMENTS THAT ARE UNAFFORDABLE.
11:09:56 YOU LOOK AT THE RATE, IN NICER PARTS OF THE CITY, 1800 A
11:10:02 MONTH, 2,000 A MONTH, 2400 A MONTH FOR A SINGLE BEDROOM.
11:10:05 YOU GO TO A THREE BEDROOM, 3, 4,000.
11:10:09 HOW IS THAT AFFORDABLE?
11:10:10 WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING FOR A LIVING THAT THEY ARE ABLE
11:10:12 TO AFFORD THESE RENTS?
11:10:14 IT'S NOT HOME OWNERSHIP.
11:10:15 THIS IS NOT THE AMERICAN DREAM.
11:10:17 THEY ARE PAYING THE LANDLORD, PAYING THE DEVELOPER.
11:10:20 WHY CAN'T THE DEVELOPERS FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION ON OTHER
11:10:23 PARTS OF THE CITY?
11:10:24 WE NEED IT.
11:10:26 THE COMMUNITY DEMANDS IT.
11:10:28 THE DEMAND IS THERE.
11:10:31 I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
11:10:32 SO I KNOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCUSSION IS NOT PART OF
11:10:35 THE DRI.
11:10:35 THE C.I.T. IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND PARKS AND WHATNOT.
11:10:39 BUT JUST TO GET THAT DISCUSSION GOING.
11:10:41 I DON'T GET IT.
11:10:42 IT'S JUST LIKE MORE APARTMENTS BEING BUILT.
11:10:44 IS THAT ALL WE ARE GOOD FOR IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
11:10:46 AT LEAST DO IT RIGHT.
11:10:48 NOT ONLY SOUTH TAMPA, ONLY THIS, ONLY THAT. ANYWAY, I AM ON
11:10:52 A TANGENT HERE BUT I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY FRUSTRATION
11:10:56 BECAUSE WE GET E-MAILS AND CALLS DAILY.
11:10:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS FLOODED BECAUSE OF HIS DISTRICT.
11:11:03 BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT TO BE BETTER --
11:11:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL LET MR. CARLSON GO NEXT AND THEN I
11:11:11 WILL ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS I HAD ABOUT THOSE SAME CONCERNS.
11:11:13 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE
11:11:16 UP.
11:11:16 YOU KNOW THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR
11:11:19 THIS, TOO.
11:11:22 WITH OUR CRA HATS ON A YEAR OR SO AGO VOTED TO SPEND 30% OR
11:11:30 MORE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:11:32 I MELT WITH THE CONSULTANT WHO IS DOING THE STRATEGIC ACTION
11:11:35 PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA, AND I HAVE ALSO MET WITH ANOTHER ONE.
11:11:40 MY FEEDBACK, MY NUMBER ONE FEEDBACK TO THEM WAS WHY ARE YOU
11:11:44 ROLLING MONEY OVER YEAR TO YEAR?
11:11:46 YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING IT.
11:11:47 THERE'S NEED RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S MONEY SITTING IN AN
11:11:50 ACCOUNT.
11:11:50 THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT.
11:11:52 WHY AREN'T WE MOVING FORWARD ON PROJECTS?
11:11:54 AND PART OF IT IS THAT THERE'S BUREAUCRACY IN SOME OF THE
11:11:58 STRUCTURES IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:11:59 ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK WE NEED TO -- IT'S PART OF
11:12:04 THE AMERICAN PROCESS, WE NEED TO DISTRIBUTE IT.
11:12:06 THERE ARE LOTS OF NONPROFITS AND EVEN FOR-PROFITS THAT BUILD
11:12:09 AFFORDABILITY HOUSING, AND WE NEED TO HAVE LOTS OF PARTNERS
11:12:12 TO BUILD HOUSING FASTER.
11:12:14 WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP AND PROVIDE A MORE EQUITABLE PROCESS
11:12:18 FOR BRINGING IN PARTNERS ON THESE PROJECTS.
11:12:20 AND WE KNOW FROM STUDYING POVERTY THAT IT'S ALSO NOT A GOOD
11:12:23 IDEA TO CREATE CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY, EITHER WE NEED
11:12:30 TO BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND SO I THINK
11:12:35 BY WORKING WITH SOCIAL AND OTHER ENTREPRENEURS, WE CAN HELP
11:12:39 MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
11:12:39 LAST THING REAL FAST IS THAT A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS
11:12:46 BELOVED, I WON'T SAY HIS NAME, BUT A BELOVED SERVICE WORKER
11:12:48 IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:12:49 I JUST FOUND OUT WAS WORKING WEEK TO WEEK, AND HE HAD TO
11:12:55 HAVE A HIP REPLACEMENT, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, HE COULDN'T
11:13:00 WORK ANYMORE.
11:13:01 BECAUSE HE WAS WORKING WEEK TO WEEK HE COULDN'T AFFORD TO
11:13:04 PAY RENT ANYMORE AND NOW HE'S STAYING IN A $65 A NIGHT
11:13:07 MOTEL.
11:13:08 AND WHAT IS THAT, $2,000 A MONTH WHICH IS A RIDICULOUS
11:13:11 AMOUNT.
11:13:12 THANK GOD THERE'S A NONPROFIT THAT'S HELPING HIM, AND I HAVE
11:13:15 HAD TWO PHONE CALLS WITH HIM ALREADY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
11:13:17 HOW WE CAN BRING SOME VOLUNTEERS INTO RESOURCES BECAUSE HE
11:13:22 HAS SO MANY FRIENDS TO HELP HIM.
11:13:24 BUT THAT'S JUST ONE PERSON.
11:13:25 WHAT DID THEY TELL US A YEAR AGO, 50,000 PEOPLE IN OUR CITY
11:13:29 IN OUR CITY DON'T HAVE HOMES.
11:13:31 THANK YOU.
11:13:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE IS A CRISIS.
11:13:43 I KNOW THE C.I.T. MONEY IS BUILT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND SO ON
11:13:46 AND SO ON.
11:13:47 BUT I DO KNOW IF THIS IS RE-UPPED, WE HAVE GOT AN INCLUSIVE
11:13:52 THING, AND I THINK THE VOTERS WILL GO FOR THAT BECAUSE
11:13:55 THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT.
11:13:56 MR. CARLSON, I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A BIG FAN BUT I HAD A TOUR,
11:14:00 GAVE THEM A TOUR OF THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, BECAUSE I NEED TO
11:14:04 GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE INDUSTRIAL AREAS,
11:14:07 PROPERTIES THAT ARE JUST SITTING, AND TRY TO BRING SOME JOBS
11:14:12 TO GET THE ECONOMY, A PLACE TO WALK AND WORK OVER THERE.
11:14:16 AS RELATES TO HOUSING, MR. MANISCALCO, I DID HAVE A MEETING
11:14:24 WITH HOUSING.
11:14:25 MR. BRYANT, WHO IS THE ATTORNEY, ABOUT WE ABOUT HOW WE CAN
11:14:31 COME UP WITH BIG-TIME APARTMENTS, AND PEOPLE BEING FORCED
11:14:38 OUT.
11:14:39 BUT TO LOOK AT ZONING, I ASKED ALSO TO COME BACK AND TELL ME
11:14:44 WHAT AN ESSENTIAL WORKER IS, WORKFORCE HOUSING.
11:14:49 THE CITY HAS A POLICY, THEY DON'T -- COUNCILMAN, WE HAVE GOT
11:14:56 WORKFORCE HOUSING, LIKE, WAIT, THIS NUMBER OF HOW MANY
11:15:04 DOLLARS THERE ARE.
11:15:05 SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE POLICIES HERE AS RELATES TO
11:15:12 SOME DOLLARS.
11:15:13 I ALSO TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF TO HAVE A NONPROFIT FUND
11:15:19 THAT THE GENERAL FUND, THEY NEED TO START PUTTING A SEPARATE
11:15:22 FUND FOR HOUSING BECAUSE A LOT OF PROGRAMS, GOVERNMENT
11:15:25 RELATED, AND PEOPLE CANNOT GET IN THOSE PROGRAMS FOR
11:15:30 WHATEVER REASON.
11:15:31 THEY ARE TOO DIFFICULT.
11:15:33 SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I KNOW STAFF IS LISTENING,
11:15:36 WATCHING, AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO START DOING WORK ON.
11:15:38 ALSO, WHILE I HAVE YOU ON THE LINE, I AM GOING TO TALK TO
11:15:43 MRS. VAN LOAN TO GET WITH YOU, SIR, BECAUSE WE HAVE OH TO R
11:15:46 TO SEE HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE THE CRA DOLLARS WE HAVE NOW FOR
11:15:49 BOND, MONEY IN THE BANK.
11:15:50 I TALKED TO ONE OF THE GUYS WHO RAN SEVERAL CRAs, AND
11:15:59 LEVERAGE THOSE CRA DOLLARS AND HAVE MORE CAPITAL TO START
11:16:01 DOING MORE WORK RAPIDLY TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS.
11:16:05 THAT'S A CONVERSATION I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET WITH MRS. VAN
11:16:08 LOAN HOW WE CAN START LEVERAGING THOSE DOLLARS AND HAVE MORE
11:16:12 MONEY WITH THE DOLLARS WE HAVE.
11:16:18 MR. MANISCALCO AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO BRING THIS IN FOR
11:16:20 FINAL LANDING.
11:16:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S NO EXCUSE WHY HOMELESSNESS
11:16:24 SHOULD EXIST IN 2021 ESPECIALLY IN THIS COUNTRY.
11:16:28 SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, WE HAVE TO
11:16:32 TAKE THOSE STEPS.
11:16:37 MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:16:39 >> SECOND.
11:16:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA SECONDS.
11:16:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:16:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:16:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:16:51 BRYAN, CATE?
11:16:52 >> YES.
11:16:54 IF WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE A RESOLUTION.
11:16:57 >> SO MOVED.
11:17:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR?
11:17:02 ANY OPPOSED?
11:17:05 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:17:06 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:17:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:17:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE?
11:17:18 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:17:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:17:21 ANYONE OPPOSED?
11:17:24 MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:17:26 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED.
11:17:28 DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
11:17:30 DO WE NEED ROLL CALL, MR. SHELBY?
11:17:32 INCHES YES, SIR, PLEASE.
11:17:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:17:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:17:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:17:39 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:17:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:17:41 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:17:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:17:44 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:17:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOLKS, I KNEW WE TOOK A LOT OF TIME ON
11:17:49 NUMBER 49 BUT YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF PASSION ON EVERYONE HERE
11:17:52 AND UNDERSTAND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
11:17:53 WE HAVE TO GET A PLAN AND GET IT DONE.
11:17:55 SO WE APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LONGER BUT EVERYONE IS PASSIONATE
11:17:58 ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
11:17:59 ITEM NUMBER 50.
11:18:00 >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
11:18:12 MANAGEMENT.
11:18:15 I BELIEVE THAT BRIAN MORRISON WANTED TO LEAD OUT ON ITEM 50
11:18:23 THIS MORNING.
11:18:23 >>BRIAN MORRISON: YES, THANK YOU, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:18:28 THIS IS THE FIRST TWO OF REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS TO BE HELD
11:18:30 BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ON THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN ADDRESSING
11:18:35 FEDERAL CDBG, ESG, HOME AND HOPWA PROGRAMS.
11:18:42 U.S. HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND THE CITY
11:18:45 OF TAMPA CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN DICTATES THAT THIS FIRST
11:18:49 PUBLIC HEARING MUST BE HELD BEFORE THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN IS
11:18:52 PUBLISHED FOR COMMENT.
11:18:54 ON JULY 29, 2021, A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD BY
11:18:58 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADOPTING THE FISCAL
11:19:01 YEAR 2022 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
11:19:03 MS. FEELEY WILL NOW PROVIDE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
11:19:06 PUBLIC WITH MORE DETAIL REGARDING THE 2022 ANNUAL ACTION
11:19:11 PLAN AND PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PLAN.
11:19:13 PUBLIC COMMENT IS ENCOURAGED NOW AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE
11:19:16 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN UPDATING AND ADOPTION PROCESS.
11:19:19 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, BRIAN.
11:19:24 IF I CAN GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
11:19:52 ARE YOU ABLE TO LOOK AT MY PRESENTATION?
11:19:55 >> YES.
11:19:57 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:59 GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:20:01 CHAIRMAN GUDES AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
11:20:04 WE ARE EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
11:20:05 I THINK THE DISCUSSION THAT COUNCIL JUST HAD IS A REALLY
11:20:09 GREAT SEGUE INTO PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
11:20:13 WITH YOU THIS MORNING ABOUT OUR HUD FUNDING THAT COMES IN
11:20:19 AND THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN WHICH REALLY IDENTIFIES THE
11:20:22 ACTIVITIES FOR THE COMING YEAR, THAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD GO
11:20:27 OUT TO AGENCIES FOR.
11:20:30 AND OVER THE PAST YEAR, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
11:20:34 HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO DELIVER
11:20:37 SERVICES FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, RANGE FROM REHABILITATION,
11:20:42 EXISTING HOMES, THE CREATION OF NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:20:45 UNITS, AS WELL AS HOME OWNERSHIP SUPPORT, ASSISTANCE, AND
11:20:52 HOMELESS SERVICES.
11:20:53 I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS MORNING.
11:20:55 AND IT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY KAON HENDERSON, OUR ACTING
11:21:01 MANAGER AND MYSELF, AND KAON IS A BIT UNDER THE WEATHER THIS
11:21:05 MORNING.
11:21:05 SHE IS ON FOR SUPPORT AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I MAY NOT
11:21:08 BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THIS MORNING BUT I WAS GOING TO GIVE
11:21:12 IT MY BEST SHOT.
11:21:13 AND WHAT WE'LL REALLY DISCUSS UP WITH THIS MORNING IS OUR
11:21:17 FEDERAL FUNDS, THE HUD FUNDS THAT COME IN, AND MANY OF THESE
11:21:20 DO HAVE QUITE LENGTHY REGULATIONS AS TO HOW WE CAN SPEND
11:21:25 THOSE MONEYS.
11:21:26 ON AVERAGE WE GET ABOUT 9 TO $10 MILLION A YEAR, AND SOME OF
11:21:31 THOSE FUNDS ARE 3 YEAR CONTRACTS AND SOME OF THEM GO ON
11:21:35 ANNUAL CONTRACTS.
11:21:39 SO QUICKLY WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER THE PURPOSE OF OUR ACTION
11:21:42 PLAN PROPOSED FUNDING THAT WOULD BE COMING IN FOR FISCAL
11:21:46 YEAR '22.
11:21:48 OUR PRIORITIES.
11:21:49 AND THEN PUBLIC INPUT.
11:21:52 AND I JUST BRIEFLY WENT OVER, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE
11:21:57 CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN WHICH IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, AND EACH
11:22:00 YEAR WE PREPARE THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
11:22:03 AND THE ACTIVITIES IDENTIFY IN THE ACTION PLAN ARE SUPPORTED
11:22:08 BY FOUR FUNDING SOURCES.
11:22:11 THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL SOURCES.
11:22:12 THE CDBG FUNDS, THE ESG FUNDS, WHICH ARE EMERGENCY GRANTS,
11:22:18 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, FOR PEOPLE WITH AIDS, AND I KNOW WHEN
11:22:22 WE PRESENTED TO YOU IN OCTOBER, ON OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN,
11:22:26 THAT WAS A LITTLE LATE ADOPTION.
11:22:28 THIS YEAR, WE EXPRESSED TO YOU THAT WE ACTUALLY RUN THE HAP
11:22:34 PA PROGRAM FOR FIVE SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
11:22:37 SO PART OF WHAT YOU SAW ON THE AGENDA WAS MONEYS ASSOCIATED
11:22:46 WITH THAT AS WELL.
11:22:48 THEN WE HAVE OUR HOME INVESTMENT PROGRAM.
11:22:54 THIS IS A QUICK SUMMARY OF EACH OF THOUGHTS GRANT FUNDS AND
11:22:57 HOW AND OWN WHAT THEY CAN BE SPENT.
11:23:02 AND OUR ESG AND OUR HOPWA OR ON A THREE YEAR CONTRACT AND
11:23:09 THAT CAME TO YOU LAST YEAR.
11:23:11 THIS YEAR WE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON OUR CDBG AND OUR HOME
11:23:16 FUNDS.
11:23:19 WHAT I HAVE DONE HERE IS SHOWN YOU THOSE SIX CATEGORIES OF
11:23:22 WHAT HUD BELIEVES OUR PRIORITY NEEDS AND THEN IN THE ITALICS
11:23:30 ARE OUR CURRENT PROGRAM THAT ALIGN WITH THOSE NEEDS.
11:23:33 WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE OTHER PROGRAMS, OR
11:23:37 ADDRESS OTHER ISSUES RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THESE PRIORITY
11:23:42 NEEDS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE FEEDBACK WHERE WE ARE HOPING
11:23:45 TO GET FUNDS TODAY FROM YOU, AS WELL FROM OUR ASSISTING
11:23:55 AGENCIES AND OUR CLIENTS THAT WE ARE SERVING THROUGH THESE
11:24:00 PROGRAMS.
11:24:03 HERE IS THE ESTIMATED FUNDING AWARDS.
11:24:05 AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, THE HOPWA AND ESG FUNDS ARE ON THREE
11:24:12 YEAR CONTRACTS AND THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED, 4.3
11:24:17 MILLION AND THE 274,000.
11:24:19 THE SHIP FUNDS ARE THE FLORIDA FUNDS THAT COME FROM THE
11:24:24 STATE OF FLORIDA.
11:24:25 SO THE TWO PRIMARY FUND SOURCES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WE
11:24:29 WILL BE WORKING FOR ASSIGNMENT THROUGH THE ACTION PLAN ARE
11:24:33 THE CDBG AND THE HOME FUNDS.
11:24:36 SO BASED ON THE NUMBER THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING FOR FY 22
11:24:40 THAT SHOULD BE ABOUT $5 MILLION.
11:24:43 YOU CAN SEE HERE A TOTAL, THAT THERE IS ABOUT $15 MILLION IN
11:24:48 GRANT FUNDS COMING FROM THESE FIVE PROGRAMS IN THE HOUSING
11:24:52 AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR PROGRAMMATIC EXPENSES AND THE
11:24:59 IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR PROGRAMS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22.
11:25:07 TODAY IS THE KICKOFF.
11:25:08 THESE ARE STATS FROM THE HUD PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE
11:25:15 ARE THIS MORNING, CHECKING ALL THE BOXES IN ORDER TO FULFILL
11:25:19 OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO RECEIVE THESE FUNDS FROM HUD.
11:25:23 TODAY, JUNE 3rd, WE ARE LAUNCHING WITH YOU IN THIS FIRST
11:25:27 PUBLIC HEARING, TOMORROW WE WILL RELEASE THE RFA ON OUR
11:25:31 WEBSITE FOR THE CDBG AND HOME FUNDS, AND THAT WILL BE A
11:25:37 REQUEST FOR APPLICANTS -- FOR APPLICATIONS, AND THESE ARE
11:25:42 FROM TYPICALLY OUR RECIPIENTS THAT PUT IN TO BE FUNDED AND I
11:25:47 KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS OVER THE YEARS WHEN
11:25:49 THESE PRESENTATIONS WOULD COME BACK TO YOU OF DIFFERENT
11:25:52 AGENCIES REQUESTING MONEY FOR CDBG FUNDS AND HOW THOSE WERE
11:25:57 GOING TO BE ALLOCATED.
11:25:59 AND TOMORROW WILL BE THAT KICKOFF.
11:26:04 THAT IS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE.
11:26:05 IT'S ALSO BEING POSTED IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES," LA GACETA,
11:26:09 SENTINEL, AS WELL AS DEMAND STAR, WHICH IS THROUGH THE
11:26:14 PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, TO NOTIFY ALL THE POTENTIAL
11:26:18 APPLICANTS THAT THIS PROCESS IS OPENING.
11:26:21 WE WILL BE CONDUCTING A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORKSHOP ON
11:26:26 JUNE 15th, AND THAT IS LIKE ANY STANDARD RFP OR RFA THAT
11:26:33 GOES OUT, A WORKSHOP, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS TO COME
11:26:36 IN, AND THEN WE PROVIDE RESPONSES TO THAT.
11:26:38 WE HAVE THE RFA SUBMISSION.
11:26:40 THAT LINE COMING ON JUNE 25.
11:26:45 THEN THE 30-DAY COMMENT PERIOD BEGINS ON JUNE 29th.
11:26:49 THIS WHOLE PROCESS WILL TAKE PLACE AND THEN WE WILL COME
11:26:53 BACK BEFORE YOU WITH THE FINAL -- THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN
11:26:57 WITH ALL OF THESE INPUTS AND ALL OF THESE ALLOCATIONS FOR
11:27:01 YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION ON JULY 29.
11:27:05 AND THEN IT GOES TO HUD FOR ACCEPTANCE AND FINAL APPROVAL.
11:27:13 AND THEN WE WOULD BEGIN WITH THOSE FUNDS COMING ON OCTOBER
11:27:17 1.
11:27:18 BRIEFLY, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU ON OUR WEB PAGE, THE
11:27:24 REQUEST, IT WILL BE POSTED THERE, AND THAT STARTS TOMORROW
11:27:28 MORNING.
11:27:29 WE ALSO DO PRESENTATIONS.
11:27:32 WE HAVE A SURVEY INSTRUMENT THAT WILL GO OUT.
11:27:36 I HAVE THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
11:27:40 THROUGH OUR AGENCIES WHO ARE CURRENTLY SUBRECIPIENTS, AS
11:27:46 WELL AS MANY OF OUR OTHER PARTNER AGENCIES.
11:27:49 THE SURVEY GOES OUT TO THEM, AND THEIR CLIENTS.
11:27:53 AND THEN THAT INFORMATION COMBS BACK TO US, AND IT HELPS US
11:27:56 TO DRAFT THE SERVICES THAT WE WILL BE PROVIDING.
11:28:01 IT DOES GO OUT -- AND WE COLLECT THOSE, TYPICALLY THIS HAS
11:28:07 BEEN DONE THROUGH A SERIES OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, WILL GO OUT
11:28:11 TO LIBRARIES IN THE COMMUNITY, AND HOLD DIFFERENT COMMUNITY
11:28:15 MEETINGS, BUT DUE TO COVID BOTH LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR,
11:28:18 THAT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED.
11:28:20 SO WE HAVE BEEN USING OTHER MECHANISMS TO GET THAT
11:28:22 INFORMATION OUT.
11:28:23 THIS SURVEY ALSO IS PUBLISHED ON OUR WEBSITE.
11:28:27 SO PART OF US BEING HERE TODAY IS ALSO GETTING THAT WORD OUT
11:28:30 TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THOSE THAT WE CAN SERVE TO GET THEIR
11:28:35 FEEDBACK ON THOSE ITEMS OF GREATEST NEEDS, THAT THESE
11:28:39 PROGRAMS CAN START TO FOCUS ON.
11:28:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ABBEY?
11:28:44 >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, SIR.
11:28:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT SURVEY YOU HAVE, I KNOW HOW SURVEYS
11:28:51 KIND OF WORK SOMETIMES AND YOU DON'T GET ALL OF THE BACK
11:28:55 INFORMATION.
11:28:55 I'M HOPING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL LOOK AD AT MAYBE
11:28:58 SOME PSAS ON TELEVISION, RADIO AND TV STATIONS, HOW THIS
11:29:09 SURVEY RELATES TO HOUSING.
11:29:11 PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY SEE HOUSING, THEIR ANTENNAS KIND
11:29:14 OF GO UP.
11:29:15 WE NEED TO DO A MORE ROBUST COMMUNICATION WITH THIS VERSUS
11:29:18 JUST BRINGING SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE.
11:29:21 AND SOME PEOPLE -- A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.
11:29:27 THEY NEED TO KNOCK ON DOORS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
11:29:37 AND I THINK WE HAVE TO KICK THE FOOTBALL DOWN THE FIELD A
11:29:42 LITTLE FURTHER TO HAVE A ROBUST COMMUNICATION, TELEVISION
11:29:45 STATIONS, PSA ASKING THEM TO HELP US TO GET THE WORD OUT.
11:29:50 THIS HAS GOT TO BE CRUCIAL.
11:29:52 THANK YOU.
11:29:52 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I'LL SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO SERVE THAT
11:30:08 NEED.
11:30:08 I KNOW MANY PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, AND ARE WAITING
11:30:12 THROUGH THE TYPICAL FORMAT.
11:30:15 NOT TYPICAL ROLLING OUT FOR THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR BUT
11:30:22 WE'LL DEFINITELY CAST A WIDE NET.
11:30:27 SO THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING TO ALSO JUST
11:30:31 ASK, I HEARD DEFINITELY SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURES, I MEAN,
11:30:37 WE DO HAVE LOTS WITHIN OUR OWN PORTFOLIO THAT DO NOT HAVE
11:30:42 WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION RIGHT NOW, AND THERE IS SOME
11:30:46 POTENTIAL THROUGH CDBG FUNDING TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL
11:30:51 INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:30:54 THERE IS NOT THAT MUCH MONEY TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS
11:30:57 NECESSARILY.
11:30:57 WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE AND WE
11:31:02 ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT HAVING THE CITY APPLY AS AN APPLICANT
11:31:07 TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, BUT BASED ON YOUR
11:31:12 CONVERSATION THIS MORNING, I DID ALREADY REACH OUT TO KAON
11:31:17 AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY FOR US TO POTENTIALLY USE SOME OF
11:31:20 THE FUNDING THAT WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE COMING IN TO LOOK AT
11:31:23 THAT, AND POTENTIAL TO CREATE SOME OF THOSE LOTS BE
11:31:29 BUILDABLE AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THOSE STRUCTURE
11:31:34 CONNECTIONS.
11:31:36 WE HEAR A LOT DURING YOUR WEEKLY DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT THE
11:31:39 PRIORITIES ARE AND HOW DO WE START TO INCENTIVIZE HOUSING IN
11:31:44 OTHER AREAS.
11:31:45 WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PRIORITIES
11:31:50 FOR HOUSING RIGHT NOW, THE PURE INCREASE IN OUR INVENTORY,
11:31:56 AND ALSO I KNOW THE OWNER OCCUPIED REHABILITATION PROGRAM,
11:32:02 AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AS PART OF THIS YEAR'S
11:32:05 BUDGET, WE DID PUT IN TO GET SOME GENERAL FUNDS TO SUPPORT
11:32:11 SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS.
11:32:12 AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE DO HAVE A LIMITATION BASED ON
11:32:16 THE GRANT THAT COMES IN THAT WE CAN ONLY GO UP TO 80% OF
11:32:22 AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND THAT DOES LIMIT THE POPULATION THAT
11:32:25 WE CAN ASSIST WITH THESE PROGRAMS.
11:32:27 SO WE DID REQUEST GENERAL FUNDS THIS YEAR TO START BRIDGING
11:32:32 THE GAP, WHAT WE CALL THE MISSING, AND BEING ABLE TO GO UP
11:32:39 TO 140% OF AMI.
11:32:41 AND IN THE INDUSTRY DISCUSSIONS THIS IS REALLY WHAT MANY
11:32:44 PEOPLE REFER TO AS WORKFORCE, THAT 120 TO 140 AMI, THAT 100
11:32:51 TO 140 AMI.
11:32:53 SO WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND THOSE SERVICES.
11:32:56 WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND THOSE PEOPLE THAT WOULD GIFT WITH
11:33:01 MANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE BUT EXPECTING TO
11:33:05 DO MORE GRANT FUNDING.
11:33:06 SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP TO ANY
11:33:09 QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, INPUT THAT YOU ALL HAVE THIS MORNING,
11:33:15 GET US ON OUR WAY, GET THE REQUIRED HAD YOU HAD FUNDS
11:33:20 UNDERWAY AND WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU ON THE 29th.
11:33:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:33:28 ABBEY, I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL THE OTHER DAY, AND IT MADE SENSE
11:33:34 TO ME.
11:33:35 YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THESE COMMUNITIES, THESE
11:33:39 MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, THEY DIE, AND WE CAN'T FIND
11:33:44 ANYBODY, AND THEN THE PROPERTY GOES INTO FORECLOSURE.
11:33:46 AND THEN WRITE UP VIOLATIONS ON THE PROPERTY, VIOLATIONS IT
11:33:54 PROPERTY, AND GET LIENS ON THE PROPERTY.
11:33:57 BUT THE BANK HAS A LIEN.
11:33:58 THE BANK IS FORECLOSED.
11:34:00 AND THAN THE QUESTION WAS, WELL, IF WE KNOW THIS IS
11:34:04 HAPPENING BEFORE IT GETS THAT FAR DOWN THE ROAD, WHY CAN'T
11:34:08 WE LOOK AT HAVING A PROGRAM TO WHERE EVEN WITH THE CRA, OR
11:34:14 WE JUST GO AND BUY THAT PROPERTY, AND SAVE THAT PROPERTY
11:34:17 BEFORE IT NEEDS ALL THE REPAIRS AND WORK ON IT.
11:34:22 IT MADE PERFECT SENSE TO ME.
11:34:26 IF HE DIED AND HE HAS NO FAMILY AND NOW WE SEE HOW THE
11:34:29 PROPERTY IS STARTING TO DETERIORATE, WE DO NOTHING.
11:34:32 NOW WE GET SQUATTERS, WHATEVER, PEOPLE, DRUG OR ALCOHOL,
11:34:37 START TO TEAR THE PROPERTY UP, WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE.
11:34:44 WE ARE REACTIVE.
11:34:45 WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE AS WELL TO BE ABLE -- I ALWAYS
11:34:49 TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:34:53 THE POLICE, THE FIRE, YOU HAVE GOT PUBLIC WORKS, YOU HAVE
11:34:56 ACTUAL CITY WORKERS EVERY DAY GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY,
11:34:59 SOLID WASTE GUY, LOOKING AT HOUSING PROPERTY.
11:35:03 WE SHOULD HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO WHERE WE IDENTIFY, SUCH
11:35:07 AND SUCH STREET, AND WE HAVE SOME SQUATTERS HERE, WE HAVE
11:35:11 GOT SOME PROBLEMS.
11:35:12 AND WE RUN A SEARCH TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, AND IN THE CRA,
11:35:16 IN MARGINALIZED AREAS, SAY HOW DO WE BUY THAT PROPERTY?
11:35:26 REHAB IT, SO WE DON'T NEED THAT MUCH MONEY INTO THAT REHAB.
11:35:35 WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT DEALS WITH -- WE HAVE PARROT, IT'S ON
11:35:41 THE TIP OF MY TONGUE, AND ENCOURAGING THOSE BECAUSE EVERYONE
11:35:44 DOESN'T NEED A NEW HOME.
11:35:46 WE NEED TO START ENCOURAGING THAT PROGRAM AS WELL, PUTTING
11:35:49 THAT OUT THERE.
11:35:55 WE NEED TO START REHABBING SOME OF THE EXISTING PROPERTIES
11:35:58 AND START THAT PROGRAM TO GET PEOPLE IN THAT'S AFFORDABLE
11:36:02 AND GET THEM IN.
11:36:03 WE NEED TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX RATHER THAN BEING
11:36:07 REACTIVE, AND LOOK AT THOSE PROGRAMS AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE
11:36:10 FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE TO REALLY HELP THOSE PEOPLE OUT, AND
11:36:13 AGAIN START PUSHING, ADVOCATING BUYING THOSE PROPERTIES
11:36:16 EARLY VERSUS WAITING FOR ALL THESE LIENS TO GET ON, WHICH
11:36:20 THERE ARE LIENS.
11:36:22 AND GET THAT BALL ROLLING.
11:36:24 SO I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, TO GET A GENERAL
11:36:26 IDEA OF THAT.
11:36:29 NO IDEA IS A BAD IDEA.
11:36:30 YOU JUST HAVE TO GET THE RIGHT IDEA GOING.
11:36:34 THESE MY TAKE ON THE HOUSING MARKET AND THE STOCK THAT WE
11:36:36 CURRENTLY HAVE.
11:36:38 WE HAVE GOT STUFF THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
11:36:40 LET'S TAKE IT BEFORE IT GETS DILAPIDATED AND I KNOW WE CAN'T
11:36:44 DO ANYTHING WITH IT AND STILL TRYING TO GET ALL THIS
11:36:47 INFORMATION.
11:36:51 ANYBODY ELSE?
11:36:53 ALL RIGHT.
11:36:54 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, MS. FEELEY?
11:36:56 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND --
11:37:03 GO AHEAD, BRIAN.
11:37:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LIKE BRIAN.
11:37:08 PUT SOME IDEAS OUT.
11:37:09 >>BRIAN MORRISON: I WAS JUST GOING TO REMIND YOU TO PLEASE
11:37:14 CHECK WITH THE PUBLIC AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INPUT AS
11:37:17 RELATES TO ESPECIALLY THE CDBG AND THE HOME PROGRAM THAT WE
11:37:20 WILL BE OPENING UP TOMORROW.
11:37:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR
11:37:24 ANYONE REGISTERED?
11:37:25 >> NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM REMOTELY.
11:37:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:37:31 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:37:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
11:37:39 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:37:42 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:37:42 ANY OPPOSED?
11:37:43 MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:37:47 >>ABBYE FEELEY: I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SET THE
11:37:51 PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE JULY 29th DATE?
11:37:56 AND WE INDICATED TO BRING YOU BACK THE ACTION PLAN FOR
11:38:01 CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION.
11:38:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOKING AT THE 29th.
11:38:10 OR IT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED.
11:38:13 BRIAN?
11:38:13 >>BRIAN MORRISON: YES, SIR.
11:38:16 WE HAVE HAD A MOTION ON THIS ALREADY.
11:38:18 WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH A RESOLUTION JUST TO
11:38:21 SOLIDIFY IT SO IT'S OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC.
11:38:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S THE 29th?
11:38:26 >>BRIAN MORRISON: YES, AND THAT WILL BE AT THE NEXT --
11:38:32 [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:38:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE PUT THROUGH
11:38:35 SIRE FOR THE NEXT AGENDA.
11:38:37 IS THAT CORRECT?
11:38:39 >> CORRECT.
11:38:39 A MOTION WAS MADE AT THE LAST --
11:38:42 >>> I WITHDRAW THE MOTION.
11:38:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE WITHDREW IT.
11:38:46 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:38:48 THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
11:38:49 WE GO TO ITEM 51.
11:38:52 THEY ARE ALREADY OPEN.
11:38:53 >>RYAN MANASSE: I NEED TO BE SWORN IN WITH ANY OF THE
11:39:00 AGENTS OR SPEAKERS.
11:39:02 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:39:04 DO YOU SWEAR OR AIR R AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
11:39:06 ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:39:09 >> I DO.
11:39:10 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:39:11 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 51 --
11:39:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANASSE, CAN YOU GET THE PRESENTATION
11:39:28 ON THE SCREEN? THANK YOU.
11:39:29 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:39:31 ITEM NUMBER 51 FILE REZ 20-83, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
11:39:35 TO YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR REZONING THE
11:39:38 PROPERTY AT 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE.
11:39:41 THE REQUEST WAS FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
11:39:44 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
11:39:49 THE REVISED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO OUR DEPARTMENT
11:39:51 AND CERTIFIED AND TURNED OVER TO THE CITY CLERK AND STAFF IS
11:39:53 AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:39:56 OOPS.
11:39:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS BY STAFF?
11:40:00 APPLICANT?
11:40:04 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:40:05 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:40:07 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:40:17 YOU MAY UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:40:18 >> MICHELLE LAMONT: THANK YOU.
11:40:33 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:40:34 I AM HERE TODAY, FOR THE SECOND HEARING TO HAVE APPROVAL
11:40:43 FROM AN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO A PLANNED
11:40:48 DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:40:54 I DO OWN THE HOME.
11:40:55 WE HAVE POSTED THE PROPERTY AND WE HAVE NOTIFIED ALL
11:41:01 RESIDENTS, ALSO ALL CHANGES, CORRECTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN,
11:41:06 AND ANY ADDITIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AS PER THE COUNCIL'S
11:41:11 REQUEST.
11:41:13 AND I AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR AN APPROVAL TO GRANT THIS
11:41:19 AND BUILD A HOME ON THIS PROPERTY.
11:41:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
11:41:27 ANY SPEAKERS ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:41:33 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED DEPUTY CLERK?
11:41:37 >> NO ONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:41:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE BY MR. MIRANDA, SECOND BY
11:41:43 MR. CITRO.
11:41:44 ROLL CALL.
11:41:47 I'M SORRY, NUMBER 51, SIR.
11:41:52 >> REZ 20-83, AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:42:01 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:42:03 VICINITY OF 1909 WEST ERNA DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:42:07 FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED FROM N SECTION 1
11:42:10 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
11:42:13 SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
11:42:16 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:42:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
11:42:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:42:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:42:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:42:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:42:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:42:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:42:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:42:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:42:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 512.
11:42:39 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 52 IS FILE REZ 21-21, AN
11:42:44 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED TO YOU FOR SECOND READING AND
11:42:47 ADOPTION.
11:42:47 THIS IS FOR THE REZONING PROFIT IT LOCATED AT 704 EAST LIKE
11:42:58 AVENUE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
11:42:59 CERTIFIED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK
11:43:01 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:43:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS BY STAFF?
11:43:05 ANY QUESTIONS BY STAFF?
11:43:06 ALL RIGHT.
11:43:07 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
11:43:10 WERE YOU SWORN IN?
11:43:11 >> HILL HOMES, 5073 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE.
11:43:18 I NEED TO BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.
11:43:20 >>THE CLERK:
11:43:22 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:43:28 >> AND I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:43:30 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
11:43:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
11:43:36 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:43:41 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:43:46 ANY REGISTERED?
11:43:48 >> NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:43:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CLOSE, SECOND BY
11:43:56 MIRANDA.
11:43:57 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:44:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO FILE REZ 21-21, I WILL READ
11:44:06 THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
11:44:08 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 704
11:44:12 EAST LAKE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
11:44:14 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:44:16 CLASSIFICATIONS RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
11:44:20 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED,
11:44:23 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:44:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:44:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED BY DINGFELDER, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
11:44:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:44:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:44:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:44:36 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:44:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:44:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:44:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:44:42 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:44:47 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:44:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER ABSTAINS FROM ITEM NUMBER
11:44:52 53.
11:44:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I WILL ABSTAIN ON SECOND READING,
11:44:56 AND MR. SHELBY WILL PROVIDE ME WITH THE DOCUMENT AT A LATER
11:45:00 DATE.
11:45:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANASSE, CONTINUE.
11:45:07 >> FILE REZ 21-27 BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
11:45:12 FOR PROPERTY AT 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE AND IT WAS
11:45:17 TO REZONE FROM CLASSIFICATION RM 616 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
11:45:22 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL.
11:45:26 CERTIFIED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK
11:45:28 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:45:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM OF STAFF?
11:45:36 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:45:41 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:45:43 >> I DO.
11:45:44 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:45:48 >>DAVID MECHANIK: MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK HERE ON BEHALF
11:45:51 OF THE APPLICANT ON ITEM 53, AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY
11:45:58 QUESTIONS AND WOULD REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS
11:46:04 APPLICATION.
11:46:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT?
11:46:06 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR FURTHER COMMENT FOR THIS
11:46:09 ITEM?
11:46:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:46:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY REGISTERED?
11:46:15 >> NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:46:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED THE ITEM.
11:46:19 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:46:20 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:46:21 ANY OPPOSED?
11:46:23 MR. CITRO, WILL YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 53?
11:46:26 >> FILE REZ 21-27 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:46:30 READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
11:46:33 GENERAL VICINITY OF 3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE IN THE
11:46:39 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:46:41 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16
11:46:45 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE,
11:46:49 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:46:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:46:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED.
11:46:56 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
11:46:58 MR. DINGFELDER WILL BE ABSTAINING.
11:46:59 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:47:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:47:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:47:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:47:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:47:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:47:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:47:07 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
11:47:11 ABSTAINING.
11:47:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 54.
11:47:14 >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:47:16 ITEM NUMBER 54 IS FILE 21-28 INFORM SECOND READING AND
11:47:23 ADOPTION.
11:47:24 THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS 4110 GEORGE ROAD AND THE
11:47:29 REQUEST WAS FROM PD TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS,
11:47:32 PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL OFFICE, RETAIL SALES, ALL COMMERCIAL
11:47:35 GENERAL USES, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AND
11:47:38 MULTIFAMILY, HOTEL MOTEL COLLEGE AND RESTAURANT.
11:47:41 CERTIFIED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK
11:47:44 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:47:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
11:47:53 WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
11:47:55 >>DAVID MECHANIK: DAVID MECHANIK HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
11:47:57 APPLICANT.
11:47:57 I HAVE RANDY COEN WITH ME AS WELL.
11:48:00 WE ARE HERE SIMPLY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND
11:48:04 TO BE ASK YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS APPLICATION.
11:48:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WERE YOU SWORN AGAIN OR IS HE OKAY?
11:48:12 ALL RIGHT.
11:48:13 MR. COEN?
11:48:20 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
11:48:24 >>RANDY COEN: I DO.
11:48:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MECHANIK
11:48:30 OR MR. COEN?
11:48:31 NO QUESTIONS?
11:48:32 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:48:34 ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:48:35 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:48:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO WAS THE SECOND, I BELIEVE TO
11:48:45 CLOSE.
11:48:46 I'M SORRY, MR. CARLSON.
11:48:47 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 21-28,
11:48:52 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
11:48:54 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:48:58 4110 GEORGE ROAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
11:49:01 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:49:03 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS,
11:49:05 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, RETAIL SALES, HOTEL, ADULT EDUCATION,
11:49:09 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:49:12 BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL, AND MEDICAL OFFICE, RETAIL SALES,
11:49:15 ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
11:49:18 ATTACHED AND MULTIFAMILY HOTEL, MOTEL, COLLEGE, RESTAURANT,
11:49:22 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:49:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:49:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
11:49:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:49:31 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:49:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:49:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:49:35 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:49:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:49:36 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:49:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 55.
11:49:46 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:49:48 COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS EXPLAINED, AT FIRST READING FOR THIS
11:49:52 ITEM THE PRIOR REZONING THAT YOU JUST APPROVED ON SECOND
11:49:55 READING IS PART OF A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT, AND
11:49:59 THIS CHANGE IS SIMPLY TO REVISE THE MATRIX SO THAT THE
11:50:04 DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT IS FOR THE REZONING IS
11:50:08 CONSISTENT WITH THE DRI.
11:50:09 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:50:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:50:14 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
11:50:20 >>DAVID MECHANIK: DAVID MECHANIK HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
11:50:21 APPLICANT.
11:50:22 I HAVE RANDY COEN WITH ME AND WE BOTH HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:50:25 WE ARE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND TO
11:50:29 ASK YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS APPLICATION.
11:50:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
11:50:36 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR REGISTERED?
11:50:39 >> NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:50:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE, SECOND BY
11:50:47 MR --
11:50:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
11:50:53 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA APPROVAL THE
11:50:56 THIRD AMENDMENT TO A DEVELOPMENT ORDER RENDERED PURSUANT TO
11:51:00 CHAPTER 380.06 FLORIDA STATUTES FOR THE INDEPENDENCE PARK
11:51:03 DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT DRI NUMBER 250 PROVIDING AN
11:51:06 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:51:06 >> SECOND.
11:51:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED.
11:51:10 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:51:11 ROLL CALL.
11:51:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:51:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:51:15 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:51:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:51:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:51:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:51:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:51:20 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:51:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S ALREADY OPEN.
11:51:27 WE GO TO ITEM 56.
11:51:28 >>RYAN MANASSE: REZ 20-103.
11:51:32 THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE.
11:51:36 THE REQUEST WAS FROM PD, OR IS FROM PD TO PD FOR OFFICE
11:51:41 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL OFFICE, HOTEL MULTIFAMILY
11:51:44 RESIDENTIAL.
11:51:49 STAFF HAS DONE A PRESENTATION IN PREVIOUS HEARINGS, AND IS
11:51:54 NOW BEFORE YOU TODAY.
11:51:55 I WILL DEFER BACK TO CHAIR OR THE AGENT FOR THEIR
11:51:57 PRESENTATION FROM THE CONTINUANCE.
11:51:59 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:52:16 IT'S GOING ON FIVE MINUTES.
11:52:19 HOW MANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE?
11:52:21 >> WE HAVE 20 REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND I BELIEVE
11:52:24 APPROXIMATELY THREE DOWNSTAIRS.
11:52:25 >>LUIS VIERA: GENTLEMEN, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
11:52:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAY WE BREAK FOR LUNCH AND TAKE THIS
11:52:31 UP WHEN WE COME BACK.
11:52:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AGREE.
11:52:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANASSE, WE WILL TAKE THIS UP AT 1:30.
11:52:43 MOTION BY MR. CITRO -- MR. MANISCALCO.
11:52:47 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:52:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:52:49 ALL RIGHT.
11:52:49 WE STAND ADJOURNED OR RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:52:53 (RECESS)
01:34:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE YOUR MIKE ON?
01:34:25 I'M SORRY.
01:34:25 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY THREE DOWNSTAIRS, AND I
01:34:31 HAVE 19 REGISTERED TO SPEAK VIRTUALLY.
01:34:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE STARTED OFF WITH MR. MANASSE AND TOOK
01:34:41 TIME OFF BECAUSE OF THE TIME FRAME.
01:34:43 HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT GOING TO THE STAFF REPORTS NOW AND
01:34:47 LET THEM GET BACK TO WORK VERSUS DOING ITEM NUMBER 56?
01:34:51 WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
01:34:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE]
01:34:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONSENSUS?
01:35:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SECOND.
01:35:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO WITH A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
01:35:05 TO GO FORWARD WITH STAFF REPORTS.
01:35:07 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
01:35:09 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:35:10 ANY OPPOSED?
01:35:11 >>THE CLERK: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED TO DO ROLL CALL.
01:35:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
01:35:15 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:35:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:35:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
01:35:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:35:21 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:35:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:35:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:35:23 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:35:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, CHIEF.
01:35:27 DO YOU WANT TO GO WITH 57 OR WAIT?
01:35:31 >>JOHN BENNETT: CHIEF OF STAFF.
01:35:43 FIRST, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THROUGH THE
01:35:46 STAFF REPORTS.
01:35:46 HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE NIMBLE ENOUGH TO GET EVERYBODY BACK ON
01:35:51 THE REGULAR AGENDA.
01:35:52 57, WE ARE OFFERING TO POSTPONE.
01:35:55 THAT WAS JUST AN UPDATE FROM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
01:35:59 OPPORTUNITY.
01:36:00 SO WE SAW THE AGENDA AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING, SO WE
01:36:05 ARE GOING TO PASS ON 57.
01:36:07 THE RESTS OF THEM ARE REALLY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AS FAR AS
01:36:09 THE MEMORANDUMS GO.
01:36:12 I AM NOT CONVERSANT ON WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BEGINNING OF
01:36:15 APPROVING THE AGENDA, WHICH STAFF MEMBERS YOU WERE WILLING
01:36:19 TO RELEASE.
01:36:19 THE FIRST ONE WAS 58 WITH A MEMO FROM DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR
01:36:23 BARED.
01:36:27 SO THAT FIRST, MR. BAIRD.
01:36:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE THAT WE RELEASED HIM?
01:36:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
01:36:44 THAT?
01:36:45 >> SO MOVED.
01:36:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 58?
01:36:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
01:36:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MANISCALCO TO MOVE THE
01:36:57 RESOLUTION, MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
01:36:59 ANY DISCUSSION ON IT?
01:37:00 ROLL CALL FOR THE RESOLUTION.
01:37:02 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:37:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:37:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
01:37:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:37:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
01:37:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
01:37:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
01:37:14 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
01:37:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 59.
01:37:19 >>JOHN BENNETT: AGAIN, A MEMO FROM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
01:37:26 CARL BRODY.
01:37:27 I'M NOT SURE OF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE ON THAT.
01:37:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
01:37:31 THAT.
01:37:35 IT WAS MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION.
01:37:36 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I SPOKE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING
01:37:41 YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD JUST ACCEPT THE REPORT, BUT I CAN
01:37:44 MAKE SURE MR. BRODY IS AVAILABLE.
01:37:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE'S THERE WAITING FOR IT.
01:37:53 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR.
01:37:55 THANK YOU.
01:37:55 >>CARL BRODY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
01:37:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE WAITING ON YOU WHENEVER YOU ARE
01:38:06 READY.
01:38:07 >>CARL BRODY: OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
01:38:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
01:38:11 >> OKAY, GOOD.
01:38:13 SORRY.
01:38:13 SORRY.
01:38:14 IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER -- I'M
01:38:24 SORRY, CARL BRODY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:38:27 MS. SIMMS AND I ALSO FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DID A REVIEW
01:38:30 OF CASE LAW STATUTORY PROVISIONS THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY,
01:38:35 IF WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE A LOCAL BUSINESS PREFERENCE.
01:38:40 WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A PRETTY STRONG
01:38:45 LOCAL BUSINESS PREFERENCE IN PLACE THERE ARE OUR 36.5
01:38:55 BUSINESS ENTERPRISE ORDINANCE.
01:38:57 WHAT THAT ORDINANCE DOES IS IT PROVIDES A SHELTERED MARKET
01:39:00 FOR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE BASED IN THE CITY OF
01:39:05 TAMPA AND SHELTERED MARKET ALLOWS ONLY THOSE SMALL
01:39:10 BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO BID FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT ARE
01:39:16 OF A CERTAIN VALUE.
01:39:18 THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT THE SMALL BUSINESSES MIGHT NOT BE
01:39:21 ABLE TO HANDLE COMPLETELY, WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE A 5%
01:39:27 PREFERENCE FOR THE LARGER BIDDERS WHO USE OUR SMALL LOCAL
01:39:33 BUSINESSES OR FIVE EXTRA POINTS IN THEIR BID.
01:39:38 SO THERE ARE DIRECT BENEFITS TO OUR SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.
01:39:43 THE KEY DISTINCTION TO BE MADE FOR A LOCAL PREFERENCE IS
01:39:48 THAT A LOCAL PREFERENCE APPLIES TO INDIVIDUALS, APPLIES TO
01:39:53 INDIVIDUALS WITH HIRING PREFERENCE, APPLIES TO INDIVIDUAL
01:39:59 CITIZENS WHO TREAT THEM DIFFERENTLY, AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS
01:40:02 THE SUPREME COURT -- IT BASICALLY PLACES A STRICT SCRUTINY
01:40:07 STANDARD ON ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT'S ATTEMPTING TO CREATE
01:40:14 A LOCAL PREFERENCE THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT LOCAL CITIZENS
01:40:22 OVER OUT-OF-STATE CITIZENS AND DO THAT UNDER PRIVILEGES AND
01:40:25 IMMUNITY CLAUSE, AND THE CONSTITUTION DOES PROVIDE THAT ALL
01:40:29 CITIZENS OF DIFFERENT STATES SHOULD RECEIVE PROTECTIONS OF
01:40:35 BEING UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND NOT BE DISCRIMINATED
01:40:38 AGAINST BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT STATE.
01:40:40 SO THE COURT, AN OLDER CASE BUT IT'S BEEN UPHELD
01:40:48 SUBSEQUENTLY BY ANY OTHER REVIEWS, HAS FOUND THAT THE
01:40:52 SCRUTINY STANDARD APPLIES, AND THE HIRING PREFERENCES, SO
01:41:02 THAT WE HAVE A NARROWLY TAILORED ORDINANCE THAT ACHIEVES AN
01:41:10 IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT INTEREST.
01:41:11 SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LEGAL STANDARD BEHIND THIS.
01:41:14 SO WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS.
01:41:18 THERE'S A REPORTING PROVISION THAT WE LOOKED AT, THAT IS
01:41:23 POSSIBLE, BUT THERE ARE SOME DOWNSIDES TO IT IN TERMS OF HOW
01:41:26 IT WOULD AFFECT COMMERCE IN THE CITY.
01:41:31 SPECIFICALLY, REQUIREMENT IS THAT ANY OF THE CONTRACTORS
01:41:35 AND/OR SUBS TRACK THE ZIP CODES, THE CITIZENS, OF THEIR
01:41:50 EMPLOYEES.
01:41:51 THAT CREATES SOME DIFFERENT CONCERNS REGARDING FIRST FOR
01:41:56 STAFF BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TRACK AND DETERMINE THE COMPLIANCE
01:42:01 BY THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS AND SUBS WITH THE ORDINANCE OR
01:42:06 PROGRAM, WHICHEVER WAY WE WENT WITH IT, BUT ALSO IT KIND OF
01:42:10 LIMITS OUR POOL OF ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES THAT THE BUSINESSES
01:42:16 HERE IN THE AREA COULD USE, INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE A
01:42:21 BROADER CONSIDERATION OF EMPLOYEES, IT WOULD BE LIMITED.
01:42:28 WE WOULD ALSO HAVE REDUCED COMPETITION OVERALL BECAUSE OF
01:42:33 THE LIMITED LABOR POOL AVAILABLE, AND WE WOULD ALSO -- IT'S
01:42:40 VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANY OF OUR BUSINESSES USING DAY LABORERS
01:42:45 TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE BECAUSE JUST THE NATURE OF WORKING
01:42:48 WITH DAY LABORERS AND GETTING THEIR ADDRESSES.
01:42:54 WE ALSO LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN
01:42:59 NEIGHBORHOODS.
01:43:00 WE DIDN'T FIND ANY CASE LAW SPECIFICALLY ON THAT, BUT WE ARE
01:43:03 VERY CONCERNED THAT IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN A BASIS OR PROVIDE
01:43:08 A GOOD BASIS FOR WHY WE WOULD TREAT TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO
01:43:14 BASICALLY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER FROM ONE
01:43:18 BEING A HIGHER PREFERENCE AND THE OTHER NOT.
01:43:21 THAT'S AN EQUAL PROTECTION CONCERN AND ALSO A DUE PROCESS
01:43:24 CONCERN THAT WE JUST REALLY WANT -- THAT WE ARE CONCERNED
01:43:29 ABOUT, IF THAT WAS THE TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WE WERE LOOKING
01:43:32 AT MOVING FORWARD ON.
01:43:34 AND THEN AS NOTED RECENTLY A NEW PROVISION THAT DOES NOT
01:43:43 ALLOW LOCAL HIRING PREFERENCES IF THE STATE ITSELF IS
01:43:48 FUNDING ANY PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
01:43:51 SO THAT IS ALSO A CONCERN.
01:43:55 THE MAIN ISSUES I WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU IN THE MEMO --
01:44:02 AND I WILL ASK MRS. HAMILTON IF SHE HAS ANYTHING.
01:44:05 >> HAMILTON: I THINK YOU BASICALLY COVERED IT.
01:44:10 I THINK WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE, BUT THOSE ARE THE
01:44:14 PRIME FACTORS.
01:44:17 IN REGARD TO PRIVILEGES AND I AM MUNICIPALITIES, WE WOULD
01:44:19 PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SOME SORT OF STATISTICAL ANALYSIS TO
01:44:23 REACH ANY KIND OF -- TO PROVIDE FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE.
01:44:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, QUESTIONS, ANYONE?
01:44:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, AS THE MAKER OF THE
01:44:40 MOTION.
01:44:45 YES, I READ THE MEMO WHEN YOU GUYS PROVIDED IT A FEW DAYS
01:44:49 AGO.
01:44:49 I APPRECIATE IT.
01:44:50 I THINK IT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE, AND I UNDERSTAND THE
01:44:55 LIMITATIONS.
01:44:57 SO, ANYWAY, WE'LL CARRY ON FROM THERE.
01:45:00 THANK YOU.
01:45:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
01:45:05 >>BILL CARLSON: MY FIRM IN THE PAST HAS APPLIED FOR
01:45:07 GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS OUT OF THE MARKET OUT OF STATE, DOES
01:45:10 BUSINESSES IN CALIFORNIA.
01:45:15 WE DON'T DO ANY IN TAMPA, FOR ANYBODY WATCHING.
01:45:18 BUT THE PROBLEM WITH LOCAL PREFERENCE IS THAT OTHER
01:45:24 GOVERNMENTS RETALIATE, AND IF OUR COMPANIES WANT TO BE THE
01:45:28 BEST THAT THEY CAN BE, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SELL OUT SIDE
01:45:32 THIS MARKET.
01:45:33 THEY NEED TO SELL PASCO COUNTY, CALIFORNIA, ALL AROUND THE
01:45:37 WORLD, AND PROVIDING PROTECTION FOR -- PROVIDING LOCAL
01:45:40 PROTECTION DOESN'T WORK.
01:45:42 INDIA HAD A PROTECTED ECONOMY FOR 20, 30 YEARS, AND WHEN IT
01:45:45 FINALLY OPENED UP IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC
01:45:48 BOOMS IN THE WORLD'S HISTORY BY OPENING IT UP TO
01:45:51 COMPETITORS.
01:45:51 AND I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR LOCAL COMPANIES BY
01:45:55 ENABLING THEM TO NOT GET HURT BY WORKING OUTSIDE OF TAMPA.
01:45:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
01:46:04 ALL RIGHT.
01:46:04 THANK YOU, SIR.
01:46:05 >>CARL BRODY: THANK YOU.
01:46:09 >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT BRINGS US UP TO I BELIEVE ITEM 60.
01:46:21 AGAIN I BELIEVE THAT WAS A RECEIVE AND FILE. I WANT TO
01:46:24 VERIFY WITH COUNCIL.
01:46:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
01:46:28 SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
01:46:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
01:46:30 ANY OPPOSED?
01:46:30 MOTION CARRIES.
01:46:33 ITEM 61.
01:46:33 >>JOHN BENNETT: SAME SCENARIO WITH DIRECTOR TO BE ON
01:46:40 STANDBY.
01:46:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
01:46:49 IS HE THERE?
01:46:49 THERE HE IS.
01:46:50 >>VIK BHIDE: I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTION RELATED TO
01:46:57 ITEM 61.
01:46:58 THIS IS RELATED TO A MOTION MADE EARLIER THIS YEAR BY
01:47:04 COUNCILMAN -- CHAIRMAN GUDES AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
01:47:09 REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE BERMUDA BOULEVARD SEAWALL
01:47:14 PROJECT.
01:47:15 A STAFF REPORT WAS SUBMITTED, AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
01:47:18 QUESTIONS.
01:47:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: VIK, I HAPPENED TO BE ON THE CLEAN-UP WITH
01:47:26 THE FOLKS OUT IN PALMETTO BEACH, ASKED TO COME DOWN TO VIEW
01:47:30 THE ACTUAL SEAWALL, ME NOT KNOWING MUCH ABOUT THE SEAWALL.
01:47:35 THEY GAVE ME A HISTORY LESS ON OF THE SEAWALL AND SHOWED ME
01:47:39 THE DETERIORATION OF THAT SEAWALL.
01:47:42 I READ THE MEMO.
01:47:44 AND EVERYONE WAS PUTTING IN THEIR BUDGETS AND PUTTING THINGS
01:47:51 IN REFERENCE TO THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION.
01:47:54 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYBODY WAS SO GOOD ON THESE ITEMS
01:47:59 WITH MONEY THEY DIDN'T HAVE.
01:48:00 SO MY QUESTION, MONEY THEY DIDN'T HAVE, BUT WE ARE PUTTING
01:48:04 IT INTO A PROGRAM, SO MY QUESTION NOW IS, I DON'T KNOW WHEN
01:48:13 THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FOR TRANSPORTATION.
01:48:16 BUT THEY ARE RIGHT.
01:48:17 THAT THING IS GOING TO CAVE IN.
01:48:19 PATCHWORK ON THE STREET THERE, AND I'M AFRAID WE GET A BIG
01:48:22 STORM OR SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR
01:48:25 PROBLEM DOWN THERE.
01:48:25 I SAW THE MEMO BUT IT WASN'T DETAILED, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
01:48:29 DO NOT WORRYING ABOUT ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION?
01:48:32 >>VIK BHIDE: AND THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION, CHAIRMAN.
01:48:37 I WISH I HAD A BETTER ANSWER THAN WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK
01:48:42 AT FUNDING OPTIONS AND WILL WORK WITH OUR RESILIENCE OFFICER
01:48:47 AS THE MEMO MENTIONED.
01:48:49 WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR GRANTS.
01:48:50 I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU AND COUNCIL THAT -- GRANTS IN
01:48:58 GENERAL, COMING FROM THE RECENT WEEK, WORKING ON IT BUT
01:49:05 RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S HOLDING US BACK, AND
01:49:07 THAT IS FUNDING.
01:49:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE IT.
01:49:10 THAT'S WHY I THREW IT OUT THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE IN PALMETTO
01:49:13 BEACH ARE CALLING AND ASKING.
01:49:14 SO WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOME TYPE OF DIALOGUE, AND WE CAN'T
01:49:18 KEEP SAYING ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION.
01:49:20 WE HAVE TO QUICK TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ON
01:49:23 THE TABLE ANYMORE.
01:49:24 LIKE YOU SAID, THE GRANTS THAT WE ARE AFTER RIGHT NOW, X
01:49:28 AMOUNT OF DOLLARS COMING FOR SOMETHING ELSE, AND WE LET
01:49:31 THOSE FOLKS KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE PLAN TO DO AND THIS IS HOW
01:49:34 WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.
01:49:35 BECAUSE I WENT DOWN THERE.
01:49:37 GENTLEMEN, I URGE YOU TO COME DOWN.
01:49:39 I CAN TELL YOU, IT'S GOT SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS.
01:49:44 ONE DAY, WE'LL HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM.
01:49:47 MR. CITRO.
01:49:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK, VIK.
01:49:54 HAVE WE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES?
01:49:58 AND YOU RAISED A POINT OF RESILIENCY.
01:50:02 WITH SEA LEVEL RISE, AND OTHER EFFECTS THAT WE ARE HAVING
01:50:06 FROM CLIMATE CHANGE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AND
01:50:09 SAYING THE SEAWALLS ARE NO LONGER A GREAT WAY OF KEEPING
01:50:14 BACK STORM SURGE.
01:50:17 AND WE HAVE BEEN GOING MORE TOWARD RUBBLE, AND/OR MANGROVES.
01:50:24 IS THAT COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE?
01:50:26 >>VIK BHIDE: ANOTHER GREAT POINT, COUNCILMAN.
01:50:29 IT IS NOT OFF THE TABLE.
01:50:31 IN FACT, THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE PLANNING FOR THIS
01:50:36 PROJECT INCLUDED CONSIDERATION OF ADDING RIFF-RAFF, THAT IS
01:50:41 LARGE CONCRETE MATERIAL, AND OTHER EROSION CONTROL MEASURES.
01:50:48 WE HAVE SINCE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT CONCEPT WHICH WAS FIRST
01:50:51 DEVELOPED AROUND 2012 FOR MULTITUDE OF REASONS BUT PRIMARILY
01:50:55 THAT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN DISRUPTIVE, AND WE NEEDED A
01:51:00 PERMANENT EASEMENT OVER WATER TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.
01:51:05 SINCE THEN, WE HAVE USED NEW MEANS AND METHODS THAT HAVE
01:51:08 BEEN IDENTIFIED WHERE RIFF-RAFF AND CONTROL WERE NEEDED.
01:51:16 WE HAVE WATER ACCESS AND PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE WILL
01:51:20 CONSIDER ADDING SOME SORT OF VEGETATION AS WELL.
01:51:31 OUR CHALLENGES STILL REMAIN.
01:51:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
01:51:37 BUT AGAIN WE GET BACK DO OUR EFFORTS FOR RESILIENCY, AND I
01:51:42 WOULD JUST HOPE WE EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS.
01:51:45 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
01:51:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
01:51:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S KIND OF SCARY WHEN SOME OF THESE
01:51:54 ITEMS GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2003 WHEN I FIRST CAME ON
01:51:58 COUNCIL BECAUSE I REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION REALLY HASN'T
01:52:01 CHANGED VERY MUCH.
01:52:02 WHICH IS PRETTY SAD WITH REGARD TO WHAT MR. CHAIRMAN SAYS.
01:52:07 AND I DO GO DOWN THAT A AREA PERIODICALLY AND IT'S GETTING
01:52:12 WORSE AND WORSE.
01:52:13 WHAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT IN READING THE MEMO, YOU ALSO MADE
01:52:15 REFERENCE TO THE VARIOUS PRIVATE EASEMENTS.
01:52:20 I THINK THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN OR SO.
01:52:22 AND YOU INDICATED THAT HISTORICALLY WE HADN'T RECEIVED A
01:52:27 WHOLE LOT OF COOPERATION FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
01:52:33 BUT I GUESS WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS WHAT DOES IT GO,
01:52:41 PRIVATE PROPERTY ON THE LAND WARD SIDE AND THEN WE HAVE AN
01:52:44 EASEMENT ON THE SIDEWALK THERE, AND THEN THEIR PROPERTY
01:52:48 PICKS UP AGAIN?
01:52:49 I HAVE NEVER SEEN A PROPERTY MAP OF THIS AREA, BUT TELL ME
01:52:53 HOW THAT WORKS.
01:52:54 >>VIK BHIDE: I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT WITH
01:52:59 DETAILS, BUT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THAT OPTION ANYMORE.
01:53:03 SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS MORE DESTRUCTIVE TO THE
01:53:07 NEIGHBORHOODS NEIGHBORS.
01:53:08 SO WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT PERMITTING EASEMENTS.
01:53:10 THAT WAS OUR INITIAL APPROACH IN 2011, 2012, AND THERE ARE A
01:53:16 COUPLE OF REASONS.
01:53:16 ONE WAS THE COST OF THOSE EASEMENTS WERE RELATIVELY HIGH TO
01:53:22 WHERE IT WOULD NOT HAVE MADE FINANCIAL SENSE THEN TO MOVE
01:53:27 FORWARD WITH THAT APPROACH, BUT NOW WE HAVE BETTER
01:53:30 INFORMATION AND BETTER METHODS TO PREVENT OR MITIGATE FOR
01:53:37 ANY KIND OF SURGE.
01:53:42 >> I REMEMBER RESEARCHING TITLE, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES
01:53:59 SPECIFIC TO THIS AREA THAT'S VERY, VERY STRANGE IS THAT THE
01:54:02 ACTUAL PORTIONS OF MACKAY BAY THAT ABUT BERMUDA BOULEVARD
01:54:08 THERE ARE PLATTED LOTS, AND THERE WAS A COURT CASE SOMETIME
01:54:13 AGO WHERE THERE WAS LITIGATION ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF THOSE
01:54:16 PLATTED LOTS.
01:54:17 AS YOU KNOW, MOST CASES WHERE YOU HAVE WATER, A GOVERNMENTAL
01:54:22 ENTITY, THE CITY OR THE STATE THAT OWNS OR CONTROLS THAT,
01:54:26 BUT BECAUSE OF SOME UNIQUE FACTORS IN THAT CASE, BUT THOSE
01:54:31 PLATTED LOTS ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY INDIVIDUAL LAND OWNERS
01:54:35 WHO BOUGHT THEM.
01:54:35 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAD ON THE WATER SIDE IN
01:54:39 DEALING WITH EASEMENT ISSUES, I BELIEVE.
01:54:44 THAT'S BEEN OUR CHALLENGE SINCE 2003.
01:54:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MORRIS, THANKS FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION ON
01:54:51 THAT.
01:54:51 THE THING THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME IS YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAIR
01:54:54 AFTER 2003 AND SOME OF US DON'T.
01:54:56 >>MORRIS MASSEY: I AM PRETTY GRAY HAIRED SO I APPRECIATE
01:55:01 THAT.
01:55:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE ON 61, GENTLEMEN?
01:55:06 VIK, THANK YOU AS USUAL.
01:55:08 WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP.
01:55:12 62.
01:55:13 >>JOHN BENNETT: ONE POSTSCRIPT ON 61, IF YOU DON'T MIND
01:55:17 REAL QUICK, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT PRECIPITATED THE MAYOR AND
01:55:23 SUPPORT OF THE CITY FOR ME TO GO TO THE NETHERLANDS AND LOOK
01:55:26 AT THESE SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT
01:55:30 TYPES OF SHORELINES.
01:55:32 AND I LOOKED AT A LOT OF THE COUNTRYSIDE, THE BEACH FRONTS,
01:55:38 THE CITY FRONTS, THE CITYSCAPE, CONVERSION OF STORMWATER TO
01:55:42 DUPLICATE USE, ALL THOSE THINGS AND TO VIK'S POINT, WE NEED
01:55:48 TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS FIRST FROM A SAFETY POINT OF VIEW
01:55:51 AND THEN ACCESSIBILITY AND COMMUNITY RESILIENCY POINT OF
01:55:53 VIEW, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE BROUGHT WITHIN.
01:55:58 ONE.
01:55:58 REASONS WHIT REMER WAS HIRED WAS HE HAD A REALLY CLEAR
01:56:02 UNDERSTANDING HOW TO GET OTHER MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY TO
01:56:04 DO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
01:56:06 SO LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE OF THOSE THINGS.
01:56:08 AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THIS BECOMES A HYPER FOCUS FOR THE
01:56:12 COMMUNITY.
01:56:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
01:56:16 IT'S GETTING VERY, VERY BAD.
01:56:18 I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL THEY SHOWED ME.
01:56:25 >>JOHN BENNETT: FOR 20 YEARS I HAVE RUN THAT ROUTE WITH
01:56:30 TRT.
01:56:31 IT WAS OUR PATH OUT OF THE ACADEMY.
01:56:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
01:56:35 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOLLOWING ON THAT.
01:56:37 WE TALKED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE SEA LEVEL RISE PROBLEM,
01:56:42 MOST OF SOUTH TAMPA IS GOING TO BE UNDERWATER IN SOME PERIOD
01:56:45 OF TIME I.DIDN'T SEE A SPECIFIC TOONS THAT QUESTION IN THE
01:56:49 RESILIENCY PLAN THE MAYOR PUT OUT THE OTHER DAY. IS THERE A
01:56:52 SEPARATE PLAN THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT TO SPECIFICALLY
01:56:54 ADDRESS WHAT YOU TO DO WITH SEAWALLS AND WHAT TO DO WITH
01:56:58 AREAS LIKE SOUTH TAMPA THAT DON'T HAVE SEAWALLS?
01:57:03 >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE.
01:57:04 AND I THINK, COUNCILMAN, THE FOCUS ON THAT WAS WHEN THE 58
01:57:08 ITEMS WERE PUT INTO THAT, PART OF THAT WAS ONE THAT WE BUILT
01:57:12 THE PLAN UNDER THE CAROLE POST AREA ACTUALLY BUILT THE
01:57:15 PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH A DIRECTOR TO MOVE IN THOSE
01:57:18 DIRECTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AREAS ARE TAKEN CARE OF
01:57:21 AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SEA LEVEL RISE.
01:57:23 THAT'S DEFINITELY ON THE AGENDA.
01:57:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE, GENTLEMEN?
01:57:30 >>BILL CARLSON: I'M JUST CURIOUS, SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED
01:57:33 TALKING ABOUT ON COUNCIL ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AND I AM GLAD
01:57:36 YOU ALL HIRED WHIT AND HE'S LOOKING AT IT AND I KNOW OTHER
01:57:40 DEPARTMENTS ARE.
01:57:40 BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE ASKING QUESTIONS
01:57:43 ABOUT IT SO WHEN MIGHT WE HAVE AN ANSWER ON THAT?
01:57:46 >>JOHN BENNETT: IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION I WILL BE
01:57:49 HAPPY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL.
01:57:52 IF YOU WANT A SPECIFIC MOTION ON THAT ISSUE --
01:57:58 >>BILL CARLSON: TO DO WITH SEA LEVEL RISE RELATED TO OUR
01:58:01 COASTLINE.
01:58:02 >>JOHN BENNETT: OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE.
01:58:05 IT'S PART OF A LONG RANGE PLAN PROCESS.
01:58:08 I AM JUST GLAD THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION, THIS COUNCIL HAS
01:58:10 TAKEN THE LEAD ON THAT.
01:58:11 BUT I GUESS WHAT I AM ASKING TO BE MORE SPECIFIC NO
01:58:13 RESPONSE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT A MOTION FOR TO BRING
01:58:19 BACK A REPORT.
01:58:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU WANT TO DO IT HOW LONG?
01:58:24 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
01:58:25 >>JEAN DUNCAN: CHIEF, I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THE STAFF,
01:58:34 RANDY GOERS, HE'S LEADING A SEA LEVEL RISE STUDY THAT WE
01:58:38 RECEIVED GRANTS FUNDING FOR, AND WE WOULD BE GLAD TO CHECK
01:58:41 ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THAT EFFORTS AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL
01:58:46 THE STATUS OF HOW THAT'S GOING, AND THEN WHEN WE WOULD
01:58:50 ULTIMATELY HAVE MORE OF A FINISHED PRODUCT OR A DRAFT
01:58:53 PRODUCT TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL.
01:58:55 SO WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK AND GIVE
01:59:03 YOU A STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT SEA LEVEL RISE STUDY.
01:59:06 >> DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION?
01:59:09 >>JOHN BENNETT: NO, WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT A MOTION.
01:59:11 I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU NEEDED A SPECIFIC RESPONSE.
01:59:14 AND THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
01:59:15 THANK YOU TO MS. DUNCAN FOR THAT FOLLOW-UP.
01:59:17 BUT THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY THE PLANNING WHICH IS LED BY
01:59:20 RANDY GOERS.
01:59:23 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO WE CAN ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC WHAT'S
01:59:27 GOING TO HAPPEN TO PROPERTY VALUES, SHOULD I BUY A HOUSE
01:59:29 THIS NEAR BAYSHORE, IS IT GOING TO BE FLOODED OR NOT?
01:59:33 >>JOHN BENNETT ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR WHERE WE
01:59:36 ARE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT WITHOUT A MOTION.
01:59:40 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF, SHOULD I
01:59:46 SAY MS. DUNCAN OR RANDY?
01:59:52 >> RANDY GOERS, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
01:59:55 >>BILL CARLSON: TORE ASK STAFF TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND
01:59:57 REPORT ON WHEN -- THE STATUS OF THE SEA LEVEL RISE PLAN, AND
02:00:07 WHEN THE PROPOSAL -- WHEN THE PROPOSALS MIGHT BE DELIVERED.
02:00:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION, PLEASE.
02:00:15 MARTIN SHELBY.
02:00:17 I'M SORRY.
02:00:18 QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE MOTION, IS THERE A REQUEST FOR A
02:00:24 WRITTEN REPORT OR IS AN APPEARANCE GOING TO BE NECESSARY?
02:00:28 >>BILL CARLSON: APPEARANCE.
02:00:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MUCH TIME IS NECESSARY FOR THAT?
02:00:31 MAYBE MRS. DUNCAN WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO
02:00:35 HOW LONG THIS WOULD BE.
02:00:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. DUNCAN?
02:00:41 >>JEAN DUNCAN: A STAFF REPORT IN THAT USUAL PERIOD OF TIME,
02:00:47 AND IN THE MEANTIME WE CAN ALSO REFERENCE ANY UPDATES THAT
02:00:50 THEY ARE POSTING ON THE WEBSITE CURRENTLY.
02:00:52 SO A SHORTER PRESENTATION IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING --
02:01:01 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT A DATE?
02:01:03 IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE PRETTY BUSY UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
02:01:05 SHOULD I SAY SEPTEMBER 2nd?
02:01:07 IS THAT TOO FAR OUT?
02:01:15 >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK THAT WOULD WORK WELL.
02:01:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
02:01:27 >>BILL CARLSON: SEPTEMBER 23rd WORKSHOP?
02:01:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES THAT WORK, MADAM CLERK?
02:01:34 >>THE CLERK: ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A TIME CERTAIN DATE?
02:01:42 AT 11 A.M.?
02:01:44 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT?
02:01:46 OKAY.
02:01:46 >> SECOND.
02:01:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEPTEMBER 23rd, 11 A.M., AT A
02:01:52 WORKSHOP?
02:01:53 MR. CARLSON?
02:01:55 >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT.
02:01:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED THE MOTION.
02:02:00 ANY OPPOSED?
02:02:00 MOTION CARRIES.
02:02:02 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO CHIEF BENNETT AND MS. DUNCAN.
02:02:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, JEAN.
02:02:08 ITEM 62.
02:02:10 >> JOHN BENNETT CHIEF OF STAFF COMING BACK ON ITEM 62.
02:02:14 JUST TO KEEP THINGS FLOWING, I DID SEE THE MEMORANDUM FROM
02:02:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S OFFICE.
02:02:22 MYSELF, OBVIOUSLY OUR AUDIT DIRECTOR CHRISTINE GLOVER AND
02:02:27 OUR CITY ATTORNEY GINA GRIMES IS ON STANDBY TO SUPPORT
02:02:32 ANYTHING EITHER WITHIN THAT MEMO OR BEYOND THAT MEMO ON THIS
02:02:35 ITEM.
02:02:37 SO WE'LL STAND BY.
02:02:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
02:02:48 I THINK KIND OF CRAFT IT DOWN WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
02:02:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO DRAFT AN
02:03:06 ORDINANCE.
02:03:06 I THINK THE LATEST DRAFT IS FEBRUARY, CHRISTINE?
02:03:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. GLOVER?
02:03:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN MOVE FORWARD SETTING THAT FOR
02:03:16 FIRST READING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW?
02:03:19 AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT MY COLLEAGUES SUGGESTIONS AND ANY
02:03:26 OTHER COUNCIL'S SUGGESTIONS.
02:03:30 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: INTERNAL AUDIT DIRECTOR.
02:03:35 YES, SIR.
02:03:35 THE LATEST DRAFT WAS FEBRUARY.
02:03:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE SAYING YOU WANT TO GO THE LAST
02:03:46 HALF OF FEBRUARY AND PUT IT OFF FOR FIRST READING.
02:03:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
02:03:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
02:03:52 MRS. GLOVER, I WANT YOU TO COVER SOME NUTS AND BOLTS.
02:03:57 IT'S BEEN A LONG WHILE NOW.
02:03:59 YOU HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONTINUANCES I DO WANT TO PUT IT TO BED
02:04:02 TODAY.
02:04:03 SO IF WE CAN KIND OF GOING OVER THE LOGISTICS.
02:04:06 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: YES, SIR.
02:04:07 THANK YOU.
02:04:08 I'M PREPARED TO DO -- WE HAD A WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 28th.
02:04:12 A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORKSHOP.
02:04:15 ONE OF THE THINGS WE WENT OVER IS WE DO HAVE A HIGHLY
02:04:18 CREDENTIALED STAFF WITH CERTIFICATIONS, AND THEY HAVE
02:04:22 STANDARDS THEY HAVE TO MEET AND COMPLY WITH IN ORDER TO
02:04:26 MAINTAIN THEIR CERTIFICATIONS IN THE INTERNAL AUDIT FEEL.
02:04:30 WE ALSO COMPLY WITH GOVERNMENT AUDIT STANDARDS, AND WE ARE
02:04:33 REQUIRED TO DO THAT AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE FOR ALL THE
02:04:37 PROCESSES, INDEPENDENT, AND WE MUST BE FREE FROM
02:04:41 POLITICAL -- ET CETERA.
02:04:45 IT'S CALLED THE YELLOW BOOK.
02:04:47 WE ALSO GET A PEER REVIEW FROM A TEAM ACROSS THE COUNTRY
02:04:51 EVERY THREE YEARS WHO CONFIRM THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
02:04:56 THE GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS.
02:04:59 WE ARE DUE FOR A PEER REVIEW IN 2020 FOR THE PREVIOUS
02:05:03 THREE-YEAR PERIOD BUT OF COURSE WAS DELAYED DUE TO THE
02:05:06 PANDEMIC.
02:05:07 I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION LAST WEEK WITH SOMEONE THAT WE
02:05:12 WOULD HAVE THAT PEER REVIEW THIS YEAR.
02:05:14 SO ONE OF THE THINGS I COVERED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR AUDIT
02:05:19 DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, A LOT OF PEOPLE COPYING OUR
02:05:25 PROCESS, CERTAINLY IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, PASCO COUNTY, CITY
02:05:28 OF ST. PETERSBURG, SO WHEN THEY COME AND DOO DO THE PEER
02:05:32 REVIEW THEY LIKE OUR APPROACH, DOING SOME THINGS THAT
02:05:36 COPYING.
02:05:36 IF WE HAVE A PEER REVIEW AND ARE FOUND NOT TO BE IN
02:05:40 COMPLAINS, IT'S GOING TO LOOK PRETTY BAD FOR THE CITY OF
02:05:42 TAMPA SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WE STAY WITHIN THAT RANGE.
02:05:46 NOW, OUR UNIVERSE WHICH IS A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE
02:05:50 COULD POSSIBLY AUDIT IN THE CITY, AND THAT'S PART OF THE
02:05:54 WORKSHOP.
02:05:54 I GAVE YOU ALL A COPY OF THAT LIST.
02:05:56 IT'S OVER 160 ITEMS.
02:05:59 WHEN WE ARE FULLY STAFFED, WE CAN DO 15 TO 20 AUDITS IN A
02:06:03 YEAR.
02:06:04 AND SO AT THAT POINT RATE IT WOULD TAKE US NINE YEARS TO
02:06:07 AUDIT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY.
02:06:10 NOW, TO TAKE A RISK BASED APPROACH, THE WAY WE DO THAT, AND
02:06:17 IT'S A PROCESS WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF RIGHT NOW.
02:06:19 I START OUT BY MEETING WITH ALL OF THE KEY MANAGEMENT,
02:06:23 PERSONS AT THE CITY, DIRECTORS AND ABOVE, ONE ON ONE.
02:06:26 AND WHEN I MEET WITH THEM, I GO WITH THEIR PORTION OF THE
02:06:30 AUDIT UNIVERSE, EVERYTHING THAT I CAN AUDIT WITHIN THEIR
02:06:34 AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY.
02:06:35 WE DISCUSS IT.
02:06:36 WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO IT.
02:06:37 IF WE NEED TO, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST AUDITS IF
02:06:41 THEY LIKE.
02:06:42 AND MANY TIMES WE DO GET REQUESTS FOR AUDIT.
02:06:45 I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS BACK, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, I
02:06:49 WENT OUT AND I CAME BACK AFTER I DID ALL MY MEETINGS.
02:06:52 I HAD REQUESTS FOR 26 UNITS.
02:06:54 REMEMBER I SAID I COULD ONLY DO 15 OR 20.
02:06:57 SO WE DO GET REQUESTS FROM MANAGEMENT.
02:06:59 AT THAT POINT AFTER I HAVE ALL THOSE MEETINGS, WE HAVE A
02:07:03 TOOL THAT WE USE.
02:07:04 WE CALL IT A RISK ASSESSMENT TOOL.
02:07:07 WE TAKE EVERY ITEM, MY STAFF AND I, TAKE EVERY TIME ON THAT
02:07:11 AUDIT UNIVERSE AND WE RATE IT.
02:07:13 AND WE RATE IT 1 THROUGH 4, AND THE FACTOR, EACH FACTOR ON
02:07:20 THERE, AND THE WAY THE TOOL IS SET UP, THE GREATER THE
02:07:23 SCORE, THE GREATER THE RISK IS FOR THE CITY.
02:07:26 SO WE DEVELOP AN AUDIT PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR,
02:07:30 AFTER WE COMPLETE THAT RISK ASSESSMENT AND THOSE MANAGEMENT
02:07:34 MEETINGS, AND IT'S BASED ON MANAGEMENT REQUESTS, THE RISK
02:07:38 ASSESSMENT, THE RESULTS THAT ARE RISK ASSESSMENT, AND MAKING
02:07:42 SURE WE HAVE COVERAGE ACROSS THE CITY.
02:07:44 AND ONE OF THE WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE COVERAGE ACROSS THE
02:07:47 CITY, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS I
02:07:52 WAS HERE WITH THE CITY WE DIDN'T DO ANY AWED TIPPING IN
02:07:55 PARKS AND REC OR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
02:07:59 WE HAVE KIND OF GET AROUND TO EVERYTHING PERIODICALLY.
02:08:02 ONCE THAT PLAN IS DEVELOPED, A PROPOSED AUDIT PLAN FOR THE
02:08:07 UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, I SUBMIT THAT TO THE MAYOR FOR
02:08:09 APPROVAL.
02:08:10 AND IN ALL THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT, EIGHT YEARS,
02:08:15 HERE WITH THE CITY, ONE TIME THE MAYOR ADDED SOMETHING, BUT
02:08:18 THE MAYOR NEVER TOOK ANYTHING AWAY.
02:08:21 AND THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
02:08:22 SO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET
02:08:27 COUNCIL IN THAT PROCESS.
02:08:28 BUT THIS YEAR I BACKED UP 30 DAYS.
02:08:30 NORMALLY, I GET A PROPOSED PLAN TO THE MAYOR BY AUGUST.
02:08:34 I AM GOING TO GIVE TO THE HER BY JULY THIS YEAR.
02:08:37 I HAVE GOT ONE MORE MEETING TO HAVE, TEN AND THAT'S NEXT
02:08:42 WEEK AND MY STAFF AND I ARE GOING TO START DOING THE RISK
02:08:45 ASSESSMENT NEXT WEEK AS WELL.
02:08:47 SO I PLAN TO GET SOMETHING TO THE MAYOR, PROPOSED PLAN, IF
02:08:52 WE CAN GET COUNCIL IN ON THAT.
02:08:54 AND THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF HOW WE DEVELOP THE AUDIT PLAN.
02:08:58 BUT EACH YEAR.
02:09:00 AND SO TO F I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS I WILL BE
02:09:05 HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANYTHING I CAN.
02:09:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE
02:09:09 I ASK QUESTIONS.
02:09:11 >> I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH CHRISTINE'S OFFICE WHEN I FIRST
02:09:14 GOT HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE VALUE OF WHAT SHE DOES AND
02:09:20 ONE OF THE FIRST REQUESTS I BROUGHT TO THE ADMINISTRATION
02:09:22 WAS TO INCREASE HER STAFF TO CONTINUE TO DO THE AUDIT
02:09:29 UNIVERSE SHE TALKED ABOUT, AND IT WHATS APPROVED BY COUNCIL,
02:09:32 INCREASE HER OFFICE BY 20%.
02:09:34 BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT WE ARE GIVING A VERY HOLISTIC LOOK
02:09:38 TO HER OFFICE BECAUSE DESPITE ALL THE GOOD LEADERSHIP AND
02:09:41 WORK WE TEND TO BE LOSING FOLKS THAT CHRISTINE IS TRAINING
02:09:44 TO THIS HIGH LEVEL AND GETTING CERTIFIED TO OTHER OUTSIDE
02:09:48 ENTITIES THAT ARE EITHER IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR LARGER
02:09:51 GOVERNMENT SECTORS.
02:09:52 SO WE HAVE GOT OUR WORK TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
02:09:55 SUSTAINABILITY IN HER OFFICE AS WELL.
02:09:57 JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.
02:10:02 >>CHRISTINE GLOVER: AND CHIEF BENNETT IS CORRECT, MAYOR
02:10:05 CASTOR TAKING OFFICE, I LOST A POSITION IN THE BUDGET
02:10:09 CUTTING PROCESS.
02:10:10 SO IN ACTUALITY IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME 12 YEARS AT THAT
02:10:14 STAFF SIZE.
02:10:15 AND SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY DID WHEN THEY CAME BACK
02:10:18 WAS GIVE ME THAT HEAD COUNTS BACK.
02:10:20 BUT HE'S CORRECT.
02:10:21 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THEY ARE STEALING OUR PEOPLE LEFT AND
02:10:28 RIGHT.
02:10:29 AND IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE GOOD QUALITY AND WELL TRAINED
02:10:32 PEOPLE, AND THESE FOLKS' POCKETS ARE DEEPER THAN OURS.
02:10:36 BUT WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD STAFF HERE, SHORT NOW BECAUSE OF
02:10:39 THE FACT THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY LEAVE THE LAST TWO MONTHS, ONE
02:10:44 EACH MONTH.
02:10:44 BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING THOSE INDIVIDUALS,
02:10:50 BUT IT TAKES TIME TO GET THEM TRAINED UP.
02:10:53 BUT ALSO IN THE INTERIM, WE HAD AN AUDIT FIRM THAT WE WORKED
02:10:58 WITH WHEN WE WERE SHORT STAFFED, AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO
02:11:01 SOME AUDITS FOR US OVER THE SUMMER.
02:11:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO COME UP HERE
02:11:07 AS WELL, SIR, TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE --
02:11:16 AND MR. DINGFELDER HAS BEEN TALKING GOING BACK AND FORTH AND
02:11:19 WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO PUT THIS TO BED MAKING SU