TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 26, 2021
9:00 A.M
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09:00:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE MEETING WILL NOW COME TO ORDER
09:00:23 FOR AUGUST 26, 2021.
09:00:26 I BELIEVE, MR. CARLSON, YOU HAVE AN INVOCATION.
09:00:28 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS MY LAST ONE.
09:00:29 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:00:33 I AM PROUD TO INTRODUCE REVEREND MICHAEL CANNON, THE
09:00:38 ASSOCIATE RECTOR OF ST. JOHN EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN THE
09:00:41 MIDDLE OF HYDE PARK AND THEIR SCHOOL AND A COUPLE OF
09:00:43 OTHER PLACES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
09:00:46 HE IS MARRIED TO HIS WIFE, ERIKA, AND FOUR GROWN
09:00:46 CHILDREN.
09:00:50 HE IS ORIGINALLY FROM UPSTATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AFTER
09:00:52 GRADUATING FROM WASHINGTON LEE UNIVERSITY.
09:00:55 HE HAD AN EXTENSIVE CAREER IN TECHNOLOGY AND RECEIVED
09:00:59 HIS MASTERS OF DIVINITY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
09:01:04 FLORIDA, SWAUNNEE, AND WAS ORDAINED AS A PRIEST IN ST.
09:01:05 JOHNS IN 2013.
09:01:12 IN ADDITION TO HIS LITURGICAL, HE HOSTS THE JUSTICE
09:01:12 INITIATIVES.
09:01:16 IF EVERYONE CAN STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF
09:01:17 ALLEGIANCE.
09:01:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN I.T. TURN THE VOLUME UP.
09:01:35 WE CAN'T HEAR IN THE CHAMBERS, PLEASE.
09:01:40 WE DID THE INTRODUCTION ALREADY.
09:01:45 >> LET US PRAY.
09:01:52 ALMIGHTY GOD, WE PRAISE YOU AND WE BLESS YOU.
09:01:58 WE LOVE YOU AND WE NEED YOU.
09:02:02 THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF THIS NEW DAY, FOR ITS
09:02:06 OPPORTUNITIES AND FOR ITS CHALLENGES.
09:02:12 BEHOLD AND VISIT WE PRAY THE CITY OF TAMPA, POUR OUT ON
09:02:18 HER AND ITS PEOPLE A FRESH BLESSING.
09:02:22 SEND DOWN UPON THESE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND THEIR
09:02:30 STAFFS THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM, CHARITY AND JUSTICE.
09:02:34 THAT WITH STEADFAST PURPOSE THEY MAY FAITHFULLY SERVE
09:02:41 IN THEIR OFFICES TO PROMOTE THE WELL BEING OF ALL
09:02:42 PEOPLE.
09:02:47 RENEW THE TIES OF MUTUAL REGARD WHICH FORM OUR CIVIC
09:02:49 LIFE.
09:02:56 WHEN WE DISAGREE, LET THERE BE RESPECT AND COMPROMISE.
09:03:03 WHEN WE ARE DISCOURAGED, GIVE US A RESUPPLY OF HOPE.
09:03:10 WHERE THERE IS DIFFICULTY, SHOW US THE WAY.
09:03:14 INSPIRE US, LORD GOD, TO CARE FOR THE POOR AND THE
09:03:19 MARGINALIZED, THOSE WITHOUT VOICE OR POWER.
09:03:24 HELP US TO ELIMINATE ALL PREJUDICE, HATRED, AND
09:03:28 OPPRESSION.
09:03:33 WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE SICK FROM COVID.
09:03:35 TOO MANY ARE SICK.
09:03:39 TOO MANY HAVE DIED.
09:03:44 WE PRAY FOR THE ERADICATION OF THE DISEASE AND GIVE
09:03:48 THANKS TO SCIENCE FOR THEIR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR
09:03:52 PUBLIC HEALTH.
09:03:57 WE PRAY FOR FIRST RESPONDERS AND HEALTH CARE WORKERS.
09:04:05 WE PRAY FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR TEACHERS.
09:04:09 MAY THE RICH VARIETY OF OUR CULTURES AND INTERESTS
09:04:14 WHICH SO CHARACTERIZE OUR CITY BE OUR STRENGTH.
09:04:20 MAY WE FIND IN OUR UNITY THE FLOURISHING OF OUR EARTHLY
09:04:22 HOME.
09:04:28 FINALLY, LORD GOD, GIVE US A STEWARD'S HEART FOR THE
09:04:34 LAND, SKY, WATER, AND ALL OTHER RESOURCES AT OUR
09:04:37 DISPOSAL.
09:04:42 THESE ARE OUR PRAYERS, LORD GOD, WHICH WE HUMBLY OFFER
09:04:46 FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR LOVE.
09:04:49 AMEN.
09:05:04 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:05:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
09:05:07 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:05:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
09:05:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:05:13 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:05:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:05:19 >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
09:05:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY.
09:05:30 AUGUST 26, 2021 IS A MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL BEING
09:05:34 CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE, IN-PERSON QUORUM, AS YOU HEARD,
09:05:37 OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
09:05:41 HOWEVER, IN LIGHT OF THE COVID-19 GOVERNMENT ISSUE
09:05:43 HEALTH STANDARDS AND GUIDANCE IN EFFECT, MEMBERS OF THE
09:05:46 PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY
09:05:51 THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCE THROUGH RULES AS
09:05:53 COMMUNICATION VIDEO TECHNOLOGY.
09:05:58 ABLE TO BE AIRED ON CHANNEL 640 AND CHANNEL 15 ON
09:06:02 FRONTIER AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM.
09:06:05 NOW MEMBERS OF THE 0PUBLIC HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09:06:07 COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL BY SENDING WRITTEN
09:06:11 COMMENTS OR WEB, BY E-MAIL, BY U.S. MAIL.
09:06:13 AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK REMOTELY
09:06:17 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE OF CVT AND THE WAY
09:06:20 TO DO THAT IS TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS ON THE CITY
09:06:25 COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL.
09:06:28 NOW IF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK DON'T HAVE
09:06:31 ACCESS TO COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR WISH TO
09:06:34 COME INTO CITY COUNCIL, THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF
09:06:37 PARTICIPATING VIA COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY WHICH
09:06:41 IS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC DURING THIS HYBRID LIVE
09:06:45 VIRTUAL MEETING AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY
09:06:47 BOULEVARD ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
09:06:49 PLEASE NOTE THAT USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING
09:06:53 INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED.
09:06:59 NOW, SPECIFIC COMMENTS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE
09:07:02 HEARD WHEN THEY APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.
09:07:07 OTHERWISE, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS AVAILABLE BY
09:07:10 PREREGISTERING AS I SAID AND APPEARING ON THE SECOND
09:07:12 FLOOR.
09:07:14 THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAIL VISIBLE
09:07:16 BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY WILL BE
09:07:19 AFFORDED EQUAL CONSIDERATION AS IF THE COMMENTS WERE
09:07:20 MADE IN PERSON.
09:07:24 AGAIN, I ASK CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THESE RULES
09:07:29 TEMPORARILY CONTINUING FOR THE MOTION OF COUNCIL
09:07:32 PURSUANT TO THE NOTICE OF HYBRID, LIVE AND VIRTUAL
09:07:35 MEETING AND THE RULES SET FORTH IN THE AGENDA BY A
09:07:35 MOTION PLEASE.
09:07:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOTION ADOPT.
09:07:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:07:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOTION.
09:07:45 SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA.
09:07:46 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:07:47 OPPOSED.
09:07:53 WE HAVE A LONG LENGTHY AGENDA AND ASK THAT WE BE ON
09:07:55 TIME AND ANY POINTS OF DIRECTION TO STAFF OR COMMENTS,
09:07:58 WE ASK THAT WE GET RIGHT TO THE POINT SO WE CAN MAKE
09:08:00 SURE IT GET THE PRESENTATIONS IN.
09:08:04 THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT BEFORE OUR MEETINGS.
09:08:08 WE WILL GO DOWN AND MR. DINGFELDER ASKED TO PUT ITEM
09:08:12 NUMBER 5, 6 AND 44.
09:08:14 IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
09:08:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
09:08:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAMARIA IS IN REFERENCE TO 44 AND THE
09:08:24 RECOMMENDATION OF THE MAYOR AND APPOINTMENT OF THE
09:08:27 COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER FOR THE CRB, CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
09:08:36 AND WE WILL GET TO THAT.
09:08:38 ASK US TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
09:08:40 GO TO THE STAFF REPORT TO SEE IF WE NEED TO RELEASE
09:08:46 ANYBODY.
09:08:49 ITEM NUMBER 86 WILL BE CONTINUED TO THIS EVENING,
09:08:51 CORRECT, MR. SHELBY?
09:08:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:08:58 WITH REGARD TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8
09:09:01 -- DID YOU SAY 86?
09:09:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:09:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 86 IS A PUBLIC HEARING
09:09:08 AND WILL BE OPEN AND CONTINUED SOME TIME AFTER 10:30
09:09:12 A.M. AND WILL BE CONTINUED TO 6 P.M., A TIME CERTAIN,
09:09:17 WHEN THE -- ACTUALLY 6 P.M. WHEN THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE
09:09:19 THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME.
09:09:23 SO IF YOU ARE PREREGISTERED FOR ITEM NUMBER 86, THAT
09:09:26 WILL BE OPENED AND JUST CONTINUED SOME TIME AFTER
09:09:27 10:30.
09:09:30 THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PRESENTATIONS WILL
09:09:31 BE AT 6 P.M. TONIGHT.
09:09:34 MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM WONDERING -- I UNDERSTAND THAT THE
09:09:40 -- THAT THE APPOINTEE TO THE POLICE CITIZENS REVIEW
09:09:42 BOARD IS UNDER A TIME CONSTRAINT.
09:09:45 I AM WONDERING A POINT DURING CEREMONIAL THAT YOU WILL
09:09:47 BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS PERSON'S COMMENT.
09:09:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL TAKE IT, MR. SHELBY.
09:09:51 GET TO 63.
09:09:55 63 IS REMOVED BECAUSE --
09:09:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DUPLICATIVE.
09:10:01 THAT IS PART OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND
09:10:01 ADDENDUM.
09:10:03 NUMBER 63 SHOULD BE STRUCK.
09:10:08 AND I BELIEVE IF THERE IS NO OTHER ADDITIONS, DELETIONS
09:10:11 OR SUBSTITUTIONS TO THE AGENDA NOT SET FORTH, A MOTION
09:10:13 TO APPROVE, PLEASE.
09:10:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED TO AS PRESENTED.
09:10:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.
09:10:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION AND A SECOND.
09:10:24 ALL IN FAVOR.
09:10:27 ANY OPPOSED.
09:10:31 GO TO STAFF AND SEE IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO BE RELEASED.
09:10:34 I KNOW THE CHIEF OF STAFF WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE
09:10:37 COVID SITUATION AND TALK OF THE AGENDA REVIEW
09:10:39 YESTERDAY.
09:10:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU SEE
09:10:46 A LOT OF MEMORANDA IN HERE.
09:10:53 IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH THEM INDIVIDUALLY SO STAFF CAN
09:10:55 FOLLOW ALONG AND KNOW THAT THE STAFF WHO IS SCHEDULED
09:10:58 TO APPEAR OR THEY CAN BE RELEASED.
09:11:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 88.
09:11:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU START, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:11:05 AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE AND YOU MENTIONED THAT.
09:11:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:11:08 ITEM NUMBER 88.
09:11:11 YES, MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:11:12 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
09:11:15 WHEN I TALKED TO STAFF IN THE BRIEFING.
09:11:19 I SUGGESTED SINCE THIS IS SUCH A BIG DEAL AND A GREAT
09:11:22 EXAMPLE OF PROFESSIONALISM OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, I
09:11:25 THINK THEY SHOULD COME BACK AND PRESENT THIS IN DETAIL
09:11:27 TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE DONE.
09:11:32 DOESN'T HAVE TO DO EXACTLY WITH 88 BUT SEEMS TO BE A
09:11:34 BIG SUCCESS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.
09:11:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION THIS AFTERNOON
09:11:40 OF THE ADMINISTRATION COMING FORWARD.
09:11:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO QUESTIONS FOR 88?
09:11:44 >>BILL CARLSON: NONE.
09:11:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 9.
09:11:48 89 GOES WITH NUMBER 90.
09:11:53 TALK TO MR. BAIRD WITH BOTH OF THOSE.
09:11:54 KIND OF SATISFIED WITH THOSE.
09:11:55 91?
09:12:00 92?
09:12:03 93?
09:12:06 94?
09:12:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK -- YES, I WOULD LIKE DENNIS
09:12:12 TO SPEAK TO THAT BRIEFLY.
09:12:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER WOULD LIKE STAFF HERE
09:12:16 FOR 94.
09:12:18 95?
09:12:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
09:12:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CONTINUE ON 95.
09:12:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL CONTINUE THAT OCTOBER 28 AT
09:12:26 9 A.M.
09:12:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF REPORTS PLEASE.
09:12:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION --
09:12:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WORKSHOP.
09:12:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A WORKSHOP.
09:12:36 I APOLOGIZE.
09:12:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 95 CONTINUED TO 28 FOR A
09:12:43 WORKSHOP.
09:12:46 OCTOBER 28, ITEM NUMBER 95.
09:12:47 MOTION CARRIED.
09:12:52 ITEM NUMBER 96.
09:12:54 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS MINE.
09:12:56 IN THE INTEREST OF --
09:12:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON 96.
09:13:01 I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT.
09:13:06 I SAID I WILL PULL -- TIRED OF GOING ROUND AND ROUND.
09:13:10 I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS NEEDED TO GET THIS PROJECT
09:13:12 DONE AT THE PARK.
09:13:17 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MY MOTION DEALT WITH VILLA
09:13:21 BROTHERS AS AN ADD-ON, DISABILITY, ACCESSIBILITY IN ALL
09:13:22 OF OUR CITY PARKS.
09:13:26 I CAN ASK BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT, BUT FOR STAFF'S PURPOSES,
09:13:28 IF I ASK A QUESTION IT WILL BE ONE OR TWO.
09:13:30 IF YOU WERE GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS, I CAN ASK ONE OR
09:13:34 TWO BUT I DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS BEING LONG.
09:13:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF IS REQUESTED ON NUMBER 96.
09:13:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHOULD BE REAL BRIEF.
09:13:41 ITEM NUMBER 97.
09:13:43 >>LUIS VIERA: MYSELF, SIR.
09:13:46 I DO NOT NEED ANYONE HERE.
09:13:48 WE HAVE HAD ALL BUDGET BRIEFS.
09:13:52 I DID THAT AS A REMINDER JUST IN CASE WE HAD TO BRING
09:13:53 THAT ISSUE UP.
09:13:55 WE ARE PRETTY DARN GOOD.
09:13:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 98?
09:13:59 ANYTHING ON 98?
09:14:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID WE GET --
09:14:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
09:14:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CHAPTER 14, MR. SHELBY?
09:14:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE ARE YOU TALKING.
09:14:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ITEM NUMBER 98, CHAPTER 14.
09:14:18 REMIND ME WHAT THAT IS?
09:14:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A PRESENTATION OF -- I BELIEVE IT IS
09:14:21 THE SOUND ISSUE.
09:14:23 I THINK -- I BELIEVE THAT STAFF HAS PREPARED A
09:14:25 PRESENTATION ON THAT.
09:14:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, WE WILL LEAVE THAT ONE.
09:14:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 99.
09:14:32 I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT IS -- I HAVE GOT
09:14:36 CALLS IN REFERENCE TO COMMUNITIES YESTERDAY, AND I
09:14:38 BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD
09:14:42 BE GOING TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
09:14:45 I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GET STREAMLINE WITH
09:14:45 THAT.
09:14:47 WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
09:14:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF PRESENT ON 99.
09:14:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:14:52 ITEM 100.
09:14:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 100 IS A PRESENTATION.
09:14:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
09:14:58 101 PRESENT AS WELL, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
09:15:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:15:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 102, A PRESENTATION.
09:15:10 103?
09:15:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOOD, THANK YOU.
09:15:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 103, STAFF NOT NECESSARY?
09:15:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
09:15:16 I GOT MY INFORMATION.
09:15:18 I APPRECIATE IT.
09:15:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:15:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 104 REPORT IN REFERENCE TO 5G.
09:15:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AM OKAY ON THIS.
09:15:28 I HAVE GOTTEN PLENTY OF INFORMATION AND I THINK IT IS
09:15:31 POTENTIAL LITIGATION NOW SO --
09:15:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK SO 104 WITH THE 5G.
09:15:39 I DID SPEAK WITH RON WIGGINTON.
09:15:42 HE HAS A BRIEF -- I WOULDN'T SAY UPDATE BUT A BRIEF
09:15:45 DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL CAN DO, WHAT THE
09:15:47 LEGISLATURE SAYS WE CAN'T DO.
09:15:50 I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND ON THAT
09:15:51 AND WHERE THEY STAND ON THAT.
09:15:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF HAS REQUESTED ON 104 THEN?
09:15:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, 104.
09:15:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:16:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 105 IS A RESOLUTION.
09:16:01 OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
09:16:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:16:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY.
09:16:06 MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:16:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:16:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:16:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION AND SECOND.
09:16:12 ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED.
09:16:13 MOTION CARRIES.
09:16:16 MR. SHELBY, WE WILL GET INTO PRESENTATIONS AND
09:16:18 COMMENDATIONS.
09:16:23 I THINK MR. CITRO IS DOWN BELOW.
09:16:25 MR. CITRO?
09:16:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
09:16:29 I HAD TO QUIET THE CROWD DOWN.
09:16:32 THEY ARE ALL EXCITED ABOUT TODAY'S PRESENTATIONS AND
09:16:37 COMMENDATIONS TO OUR FIRE FIGHTERS AND TO OUR TPD
09:16:38 OFFICERS.
09:16:43 AND IN INTEREST OF TIME AND AGREEABLE TO OUR CHAIR, WE
09:16:45 ARE GOING TO DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
09:16:49 IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE TPD OFFICERS OR THE FIRE
09:16:53 FIGHTER DOESN'T DESERVE THE RECOGNITION, BUT, AGAIN, IN
09:16:55 THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE ARE GOING TO BE GIVING THE
09:16:58 COMMENDATIONS TO THE FIRE FIGHTERS AND -- FIRE FIGHTERS
09:17:02 AND POLICE OFFICERS FIRST AND ANY ACCOLADES WILL BE
09:17:03 GIVEN LATER.
09:17:08 FROM OUR PARTNERS AT BUSCH GARDENS, BUCCANEERS,
09:17:11 COLUMBIA RESTAURANT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
09:17:19 SO I WANT TO PRESENT THE FIRST TPD OFFICER, OFFICER
09:17:24 JAMES NG TANG WHO IS THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR JULY.
09:17:27 AGED ALWAYS START OFF THESE COMMENDATIONS BY SAYING,
09:17:30 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT
09:17:38 THESE OFFICERS GO THROUGH, PLEASE, PLEASE ATTEND THE
09:17:42 CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:17:43 I AM A GRADUATE OF THAT.
09:17:45 I DID THAT MANY YEARS AGO.
09:17:48 AND SOME PEOPLE WILL COME UP AND WILL BE TALKING, AND
09:17:51 THEY WILL TELL YOU THEIR EXPERIENCE OF THE POLICE
09:17:54 ACADEMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
09:17:57 IT ONLY SCRATCHES THE SURFACE, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU
09:18:00 WHAT THESE BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN GO THROUGH EACH AND
09:18:01 EVERY DAY.
09:18:04 CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS OFFICER IS
09:18:10 THE RECIPIENT OF THIS COMMENDATION FOR JULY.
09:18:10 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:18:12 MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:18:16 RUBEN DELGADO, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF AND I HAVE THE
09:18:20 HONOR OF PRESENTING TWO AWARDS FOR JULY AND AUGUST OF
09:18:22 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:18:25 WE HAVE OVER 1,000 OFFICERS AND PICK 12 OF THESE
09:18:27 OFFICERS A YEAR THAT DO SOMETHING IN THEIR RESPECTIVE
09:18:30 AREAS THAT STAND OUT AMONG OTHERS.
09:18:35 FOR JULY OF 2021, OFFICER JAMES NG TANG IS OUR OFFICER
09:18:35 OF THE MONTH.
09:18:40 AND HE IS CURRENTLY ON OUR MOTORCYCLE SQUAD.
09:18:42 HE HAS BEEN HERE FOR 21 YEARS.
09:18:44 A VERY UNIQUE UNIT.
09:18:46 NOT JUST A PATROL TAKING SQUAD.
09:18:49 I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT HE HAS
09:18:51 DONE FOR US AS AN AGENCY.
09:18:54 HE IS OUR LEAD MOTOR INSTRUCTOR FOR THE SQUAD.
09:18:57 SO THE NEW MOTOR OFFICER CANDIDATES THAT WANT TO BE ON
09:19:01 THIS SQUAD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PRETTY INCENSE 80-HOUR
09:19:05 MOTOR SCHOOL AND 40-HOUR TACTICAL SCHOOL AND THIS IS TO
09:19:08 JUST PREPARE THEM FOR BEING HOURS ON THE ROAD, BEING
09:19:12 ABLE TO TAKE MANEUVERS THAT WILL SAVE LIVES, CITIZENS
09:19:13 AND THEMSELVES.
09:19:17 IT IS ONE OF THE HARDEST SCHOOLS IN THE SPECIALTY TEAMS
09:19:17 THAT WE HAVE.
09:19:23 HISTORICALLY THE FAILURE RATE -- IT WAS TWO IN TEN
09:19:24 USUALLY TO PASS THE CLASS.
09:19:27 THAT IS HOW DIFFICULT THE CLASS WAS.
09:19:30 SINCE OFFICER JAMES NG TANG WAS TAKEN OVER AS LEAD
09:19:34 INSTRUCTOR WE HAVE SEEN WHERE OUR PASS RATE IS EIGHT IN
09:19:35 TEN.
09:19:37 HE IS GETTING THE MESSAGE TO THE OFFICERS IN THE
09:19:38 CANDIDATE SCHOOL.
09:19:41 GETTING A GREAT JOB OF GETTING IT FILLED.
09:19:44 LEADING TO REDUCTION IN OUR INJURIES.
09:19:46 REDUCTION OF OUR CRASHES AND SAFER STREETS AND COPS
09:19:48 BEING SAFER ON THE ROAD AS WELL.
09:19:52 IN ADDITION TO THAT OFFICER NG TANG DEVELOPED THE
09:19:56 CURRICULUM OF THE TAMPA SMART CLASS, OR THE SAFE
09:19:58 MOTORCYCLE TECHNIQUES COURSE.
09:20:01 TWO-DAY MOTORCYCLE CLASS FOR CIVILIAN MOTORCYCLES THAT
09:20:03 WE PUT ON FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE CITIZENS.
09:20:06 THIS BASICALLY IS A CLASS THAT GIVES THEM SOME
09:20:10 KNOWLEDGE OF STREET SAFETY, SOME TACTICS OF HOW TO
09:20:12 PREPARE TO DRIVE ON THE STREETS OF THE CITY, AND
09:20:17 BASICALLY, WHAT HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO, THERE IS NOW A
09:20:20 WAITING LIST TO GET IN THAT CLASS AND WHAT HE HAS BEEN
09:20:23 ABLE TO DO IS CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT TO DRIVE IN
09:20:28 THE CITY, POTENTIALLY LOWER THE MOTORCYCLE FATALITIES
09:20:30 IN THE CITY AND SOMETHING HE TAKES PRIDE IN AND THE
09:20:33 CITIZENS ARE RESPONDING WELL AS THERE IS A LONG WAITING
09:20:36 LIST TO GET INTO THOSE CLASSES.
09:20:40 SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HE DOES THAT GOES
09:20:42 UNNOTICED WITH THE MOTOR SQUAD.
09:20:44 ALL THE PARADES WE ASK HIM TO DO.
09:20:46 ALL THE ESCORTS.
09:20:48 ANY PRESIDENTIAL VISITS THAT COME INTO TOWN, HE IS ONE
09:20:53 OF THE LEADERS OF THE MOTOR SQUAD AND DOES IT WITHOUT
09:20:56 ASKING AND ADJUSTS HIS SCHEDULE.
09:21:00 WITH THAT AND ALL THE HE IS DOING TO KEEP THE STREETS
09:21:03 SAFE WITH MOTORCYCLE SAFETY.
09:21:05 OFFICER NG TANG HAS BEEN AWARDED THE OFFICER OF THE
09:21:06 MONTH.
09:21:14 [APPLAUSE]
09:21:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW OFFICER, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE DUBBED
09:21:22 ME SCOOTER JOE, AND I LIKE TO RIDE THE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS
09:21:25 AROUND, BUT AS YOU AND I DISCUSSED I AM A HARLEY RIDER,
09:21:29 AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY RIDING
09:21:31 A MOTORCYCLE AROUND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:21:35 BUT I WILL TELL THE CITIZENS, BEWARE.
09:21:40 BEWARE, YOU CAN NOT SEE THESE MOTORCYCLE COPS BEHIND
09:21:42 TREES AND THEY HAVE THEIR RADAR GUNS AND THEY ARE
09:21:43 LOOKING FOR YOU.
09:21:44 BEWARE.
09:21:44 [LAUGHTER]
09:21:50 OFFICER NG TANG, BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVICE
09:21:53 AND COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL
09:21:57 OF DUTY, YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN AS THIS MARK OF
09:22:02 DISTINCTION OFFICER OF THE MONTH WITH CITY OF TAMPA.
09:22:05 AND WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND
09:22:07 DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITY OF WHICH YOU SERVE.
09:22:13 WE COMMEND YOU FOR EMPOWERING MOTHER THE MOTORISTS,
09:22:16 MOTORCYCLISTS TO KEEP OUR STREETS SAFE.
09:22:22 IN THIS HONOR THE CITY OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENT
09:22:25 OFFICER JAMES NG TANG WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON AUGUST
09:22:27 26, 2021.
09:22:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:30 >> APPRECIATE IT.
09:22:31 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:22:33 [APPLAUSE]
09:22:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE BEHIND YOU THAT
09:22:42 YOU NEED TO INTRODUCE.
09:22:45 >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A WELCOME SURPRISE.
09:22:49 LET ME ALSO SAY THIS, THAT WE HAVE A SQUAD OF 15
09:22:52 MEMBERS.
09:22:56 AND ON OUR SQUAD, WE ALSO HAVE FIVE OTHER INSTRUCTORS
09:23:00 THAT ACTUALLY HELP IN KEEPING THE SQUAD SAFE.
09:23:04 AS FAR AS THE CIVILIAN MOTORCYCLE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE
09:23:10 GOING ON, UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST NOT -- NOT A
09:23:12 ONE-MAN SHOW.
09:23:15 I HAVE EIGHT TO TEN OTHER GUYS THAT ACTUALLY CARRY ON
09:23:17 WITH ME WHEN WE PUT THIS COURSE ON.
09:23:21 SO THESE ACCOLADES I SHARE WITH THE SQUAD, AND, AGAIN,
09:23:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:23:22 [APPLAUSE]
09:23:28 LET ME INTRODUCE MY WIFE.
09:23:29 THIS IS DEBRA.
09:23:32 AND ALL THE -- ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT I HAVE PUT ON AND
09:23:39 ALL THE -- ALL THE -- LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, SHE IS AN
09:23:42 ENGLISH MAJOR.
09:23:45 AND SHE DID ALL THE CORRECTING ON ALL MY PROGRAMS AND
09:23:48 POWERPOINTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
09:23:50 SO, YES, I DO SHARE THIS WITH HER.
09:23:50 [LAUGHTER]
09:23:53 AND MOM.
09:23:53 [APPLAUSE]
09:24:01 LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THIS IS MY MOM, PATRICIA.
09:24:01 >> HI.
09:24:04 >> PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I HAVE THAT KNOWN AND DONE IS
09:24:06 ALL TO HER AND MY DAD ALSO.
09:24:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:14 [APPLAUSE]
09:24:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:24:19 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:22 OFFICER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:24:27 AND YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE A VERY KIND DEMEANOR THAT SERVES
09:24:31 YOU VERY WELL IN SITUATIONS THAT CAN BE CAUSTIC AND
09:24:34 DIFFICULTY OR WHAT NOT.
09:24:36 YOU HAVE A DIFFICULT JOB AND WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOUR
09:24:37 FAMILY AND YOUR WONDERFUL MOTHER.
09:24:41 TO YOUR MOM, THE CITY OF TAMPA AND PEOPLE ACROSS TAMPA,
09:24:44 FLORIDA, AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HONOR AND
09:24:46 RESPECT WHAT YOUR SON DOES FOR A LIVING.
09:24:48 AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU DO, SIR.
09:24:51 BUT I WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU AGAIN ON YOUR SUNNY
09:24:52 DEMEANOR.
09:24:54 YOU NEED THAT IN THAT JOB.
09:24:56 YOU NEED THAT IN THAT JOB.
09:25:00 I AM A BIG BELIEVER IN DIPLOMACY AND I BELIEVE YOU
09:25:02 CHAMPION IT WELL.
09:25:03 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:25:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
09:25:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
09:25:11 NOT THE FIRST FROM THE MOTORCYCLE UNIT TO BE RECOGNIZED.
09:25:16 WE SPEAK OF KIND AND POSITIVE DEMEANOR, ROY PAZ WHO I
09:25:20 SAY HE IS THE NICEST GUY IN ALL OF TAMPA AND YOU ARE
09:25:21 RIGHT UP THERE WITH HIM.
09:25:22 WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
09:25:26 AND BEING ON A MOTORCYCLE IS DANGEROUS BECAUSE WE SEE
09:25:29 HOW PEOPLE DRIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE OUT THERE, YOU
09:25:32 ARE KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
09:25:35 I KNOW MANY OF YOUR HIDING SPOTS AND I KNOW WHEN NOT TO
09:25:36 SPEED.
09:25:38 BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THAT DO YOU.
09:25:42 AND YOU AND YOUR SQUAD AND EVERYBODY THERE SO
09:25:45 CONGRATULATIONS, THANK YOU, SIR.
09:25:47 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:25:50 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND THE
09:25:53 SACRIFICES THAT YOU MAKE SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN
09:25:54 MANISCALCO SAID.
09:25:55 MY DISTRICT IS SOUTH TAMPA.
09:25:59 WHEN I AM DRIVING ON BAYSHORE, AND MY FIRST ACTION IS
09:26:01 FEAR WHEN I SEE THE MOTORCYCLES AND I LOOK DOWN AND
09:26:03 LUCKILY ALWAYS DRIVING 35.
09:26:06 AND THE NECK FEELING IS HAPPINESS, BECAUSE IN MY
09:26:08 DISTRICT, ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE GET IS
09:26:10 SPEEDING ON BAYSHORE.
09:26:14 AND I KNOW MY -- MY NEIGHBORS IN AND AROUND BAYSHORE
09:26:16 ARE ALWAYS VERY HAPPY TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.
09:26:20 THE PEOPLE YOU WRITE TICKETS WHO I AM SURE ARE NOT,
09:26:23 BUT PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY BAYSHORE SAFELY AND
09:26:25 ALL THE OTHER ROADS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:26:28 AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU TO DO PROTECT US AND
09:26:30 MAKE THAT SAFE.
09:26:33 >> JUST KNOW THAT WE INSTILL THAT FEAR WITH LOVE.
09:26:34 [LAUGHTER]
09:26:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
09:26:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, OFFICER JAMES
09:26:39 NG TANG.
09:26:42 A PLEASURE TO SEE SOMEONE WITH THE MOTORCYCLE OPERATION
09:26:45 TO GET A CERTIFICATE.
09:26:46 I BELIEVE YOU ARE THE FIRST ONE.
09:26:47 I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE.
09:26:51 PLANNED CITRO DRIVES A HARLEY.
09:26:57 I DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE THAT YOU AND I HAVE, BUT I
09:27:01 DON'T HAVE AN HARLEY BUT CUSHMAN THAT LOOKS LIKE A
09:27:05 HARLEY AND I HAVEN'T TAKE TON OUT IN 20 YEARS BUT JUST
09:27:08 FOR YOU I WILL HAVE IT REDONE AND MAYBE TAKE IT OUT FOR
09:27:09 A RIDE.
09:27:12 I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND EVERYTHING YOU DO.
09:27:14 IT IS NOT EASY BEING A POLICE OFFICER AND YOU FACE
09:27:19 EVERYTHING AND YOU SEE THINGS IN LIFE THAT PEOPLE DON'T
09:27:20 KNOW IS HAPPENING.
09:27:24 FOR THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR
09:27:27 FAMILY FOR EVERYTHING DO YOU BEST.
09:27:29 >> I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
09:27:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AN OLD SAYING WHEN SOME OF THE
09:27:36 OLD-TIMERS SAID, DON'T LAY THAT BIKE DOWN.
09:27:39 GREAT TO SEE THAT THE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED.
09:27:42 BECAUSE THE MOTORCYCLE UNIT DOES A LOT OF WORK.
09:27:44 THEY ARE WORKING ALL THE TIME WITH PARADES,
09:27:48 DIGNITARIES, TRAFFIC LAW ENFORCEMENT.
09:27:51 THESE GUYS WORK ENDLESSLY.
09:27:54 AND, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND
09:27:55 BEING A GOOD LEAD INSTRUCTOR.
09:27:59 I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WHEN PEOPLE PHASE OFF -- SOMETIMES
09:28:02 IT DEPENDS ON THE INSTRUCTOR.
09:28:03 EVERYBODY TEACHES DIFFERENTLY.
09:28:05 OUR RATE IS EIGHT TO TEN NOW?
09:28:10 THAT MEANS YOU ARE DOING A HELL OF A JOB TO GET THINGS
09:28:12 MOVING AND GET GUYS ON THE BIKE.
09:28:14 APPRECIATE YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:28:14 >> THANK YOU.
09:28:16 I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
09:28:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, WHO IS UP NEXT.
09:28:55 [APPLAUSE]
09:29:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, WE ARE
09:29:06 ALSO HERE TO COMMENDATION CORPORAL LANCE E. BAKER WHO
09:29:11 IS OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST, 2021.
09:29:15 BUT I AM GOING TO LET THE CHIEF HERE EXPLAIN THE REASON
09:29:20 WHY THIS OFFICER IS DESERVED OF THIS COMMENDATION.
09:29:21 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:29:24 AND, AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:29:28 LANCE BAKER WAS RECOGNIZED FOR THE AUGUST OFFICER OF
09:29:29 THE MONTH.
09:29:31 AND AS A CORPORAL OF THE SQUAD, HE IS THE LEADING
09:29:37 TRAINING OFFICER OF THE SQUAD AS CHAIRMAN GUDES ALLUDED
09:29:40 TO A LITTLE WHILE AGO AND HE TAKES THAT JOB SERIOUSLY.
09:29:44 AND I WILL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES HOW THE
09:29:46 LEADERSHIP CAME OUT IN THE SQUAD AND HOW HE HELPS WITH
09:29:47 THE YOUNGER OFFICERS ON THE SQUAD.
09:29:52 CORPORAL BAKER WAS RESPONDING TO AN IN-PROGRESS
09:29:54 DOMESTIC CALL THAT WE GOT INFORMATION THAT THE
09:29:58 DEFENDANT WAS HOLDING HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND BY A CHOKEHOLD
09:30:02 HAND A KNIFE TO HER NECK, THREATENED TO KILL HER.
09:30:05 OFFICER BAKER WAS THE FIRST ONE TO ARRIVE ON SCENE.
09:30:10 HE WAS ABLE TO GET A VISUAL OF THE SUSPECT AND THE
09:30:11 GIRLFRIEND IN THE HOUSE.
09:30:13 WHEN THE OTHER OFFICERS WERE ARRIVING, HE COORDINATED
09:30:17 THE EFFORTS OF THE OTHER OFFICERS, DIRECTED THEM TO
09:30:21 WHERE TO GO, AND WAS ABLE TO DEESCALATE THE ENTIRE
09:30:23 SITUATION WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE GUY INTO
09:30:27 CUSTODY WITH A SAFE CONCLUSION.
09:30:28 SAVING THE VICTIM'S LIFE.
09:30:32 AND THIS ACTION WAS SOMETHING WE AWARDED CORPORAL BAKER
09:30:37 WITH THE TACTICAL EXCELLENCE AWARD, WHICH IS AN AWARD
09:30:43 WE GIVE OUT OFFICERS WHO SHOW EXTREME PATIENCE IN
09:30:46 CRITICAL SITUATIONS AND DEADLY FORCE INCIDENTS WITHOUT
09:30:50 HAVING TO USE SOME SORT OF FORCE -- DEADLY FORCE.
09:30:54 THOSE ACTIONS WERE -- WHEN YOU SEE IT ON BODY-WORN
09:30:58 CAMERA WAS PRETTY BRAVE ACTION ACTIONS OF CORPORAL
09:31:00 BAKER.
09:31:03 ANOTHER INCIDENT WAS A NORMAL CALL OF SOMEONE FINDING
09:31:06 THEIR STOLEN TRAILER AT A VACANT RESIDENCE.
09:31:08 HIS LEADERSHIP AND TENURE THERE REALIZED IT WAS
09:31:12 SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST A REGULAR STOLEN TRAILER.
09:31:16 HE WAS ABLE TO UN COVER A LARGE THEFT RING THAT LED TO
09:31:20 THE RECOVERY OF SEVERAL TRAILERS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
09:31:24 DOLLARS OF STOLEN PROPERTY AND SHUT DOWN A LOCAL THEFT
09:31:26 RING THAT POPPED UP.
09:31:29 IN ADDITION TO THE WORK ON THE STREET, CORPORAL BAKER
09:31:33 IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ADVOCATES FOR OPERATION RESTORE.
09:31:37 OPERATION RESTORE IS A PLACE WHERE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS
09:31:39 CAN RECEIVE ASSISTANCE IN WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF THE
09:31:44 STUFF THEY SEE EVERY DAY AND PHYSIOLOGICAL AND
09:31:47 PSYCHOLOGICAL DIFFICULTIES THEY HAVE IN THE PERFORMANCE
09:31:48 OF THEIR JOB.
09:31:51 HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE RESOURCE IS PAVING THE WAY FOR
09:31:53 MANY OFFICERS TO RECEIVE THE SAME ASSISTANCE AND HELP
09:31:56 THEM RECOVER AFTER RESPONDING TO DIFFICULT CALLS.
09:31:59 I THINK SOMETIMES COPS ARE THE LAST ONES WHO SAY THEY
09:32:02 NEED HELP OR NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY AND CORPORAL
09:32:05 BAKER CHAMPIONED THIS PROGRAM AND MADE IT A LOT EASIER
09:32:09 AND PAVED THE PATH FOR MORE OFFICERS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
09:32:10 OF THE PROGRAM.
09:32:14 IN RECOGNITION OF EVERYTHING HE IS DOING AND HAS DONE
09:32:19 CORPORAL BAKER IS AWARDED THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR
09:32:24 AUGUST 2021.PLACE.
09:32:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GET UP IN HERE.
09:32:33 IT IS THE TRAINING THAT TPD DOES FROM WITHIN.
09:32:36 AND WITHOUT OFFICERS LIKE YOU AND OFFICER JAMES NG TANG
09:32:40 TO TRAIN OUR UP AND COMING OFFICERS, OUR NEW OFFICERS,
09:32:44 TO BE BETTER OFFICERS, WE WOULD STAY AT A CERTAIN
09:32:45 LEVEL.
09:32:49 SO I THANK YOU FOR TRAINING YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS.
09:32:52 OFFICER BAKER, BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVICE,
09:32:56 COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
09:32:59 CALL OF DUTY, YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR THIS MARK OF
09:33:01 DISTINCTION WHICH IS OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:33:06 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOUR PEERS AND YOUR SUPERIORS WOULD
09:33:10 LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, DEDICATION TO
09:33:11 THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH YOU SERVE.
09:33:18 WE COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR LIFE-SAVING, QUICK THINKING
09:33:21 YOUR WORK IN STOPPING A MAJOR THEFT RING AND ADVOCACY
09:33:25 OF FIRST RESPONDERS TO SEEK HELP THAT THEY NEED AND
09:33:26 DESERVE.
09:33:30 IT IS THE HONOR OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT
09:33:35 CORPORAL LANCE E. BAKER WITH THIS COMMENDATION ON
09:33:37 AUGUST 26, 2021.
09:33:45 [APPLAUSE]
09:33:48 >> FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO -- TAKE THIS OFF FOR A SECOND.
09:33:53 FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.
09:33:56 THE SUPPORT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN THIS DEPARTMENT IS
09:33:58 OVERWHELMING.
09:34:01 THIS HAS BEEN AN EXCELLENT CAREER HERE AND I TRULY
09:34:02 ENJOY IT.
09:34:05 I WANT TO INTRODUCE MY FAMILY HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT
09:34:07 FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS.
09:34:10 THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, THINGS HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT
09:34:11 FOR A GREAT MANY PEOPLE.
09:34:15 MANY HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, THEY LOST FINANCIAL
09:34:18 SECURITY, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AS WELL.
09:34:22 WITH THIS PANDEMIC CAME ANGER, RIOTS, GENERAL
09:34:26 DISSATISFACTION WITH LIFE AS WE KNEW IT.
09:34:29 AFTER 27 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT I REALIZED I WAS
09:34:33 HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME AND REACHED THE BREAKING POINT.
09:34:36 I WAS TERRIBLY SAD LEAVING A CAREER AND COMMUNITY OF
09:34:38 WHICH I LOVED SERVING.
09:34:40 FORTUNATELY GOD HAD OTHER PLANS.
09:34:44 I WAS OFFERED THE PARTICIPATE IN OPERATION RESTORE.
09:34:47 FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, A NONPROFIT
09:34:50 TO HELP FIRST RESPONDERS WORK THROUGH VARIOUS TRAUMAS,
09:34:53 EXPERIENCES AND ISSUES THAT MAY BE ADVERSELY AFFECTING
09:34:55 THEIR LIVES AND OCCUPATION.
09:34:59 I SPENT A WEEK WORKING ON THINGS I HADN'T EVEN REALIZED
09:35:04 WAS AFFECTED ME AND I RETURNED TO THE STREET AS IF A
09:35:06 WEIGHT WAS LIFTED FROM MY SHOULDER AND THE JOY OF
09:35:08 SERVING THIS COMMUNITY.
09:35:12 THE INCIDENTS OCCURRED FOLLOWING MY PARTICIPATION IN
09:35:13 OPERATION RESTORE.
09:35:16 CLEARLY HAVING THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES I HAVE
09:35:20 BEEN STRUGGLING WITH HAVE BENEFITED NOT ONLY ME, MY
09:35:22 FAMILY, AND THE CITIZENS I SERVE.
09:35:26 I PRAY THAT THE CITY CONTINUES WITH THE OPERATION
09:35:28 RESTORE TO CARE FOR THE WELL BEING OF FIRST RESPONDERS
09:35:31 IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
09:35:34 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY LINE OF SUPERVISION THAT
09:35:37 ALLOWED ME TO PARTICIPATE IN OPERATION RESTORE AND DR.
09:35:41 DAN MIDBROOK HERE TODAY AND PASTOR WHO RUNS THE
09:35:42 PROGRAM.
09:35:44 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY WIFE AND CHILDREN FOR ALWAYS
09:35:47 STAYING BEHIND ME AND KEEPING ME GROUNDED WHAT IS
09:35:48 IMPORTANT IN LIFE.
09:35:50 ABOVE ALL, I THANK GOD FOR WORKING ALL THINGS TO HIS
09:35:51 GLORY.
09:35:52 SO THANK YOU ALL.
09:35:55 AND THANK YOU FOR, AGAIN, TO MY FAMILY.
09:35:59 WITHOUT THEM THERE IS NOTHING.
09:36:02 [APPLAUSE]
09:36:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:36:09 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:36:09 THANK YOU.
09:36:11 A LOT OF TIME WHEN WE GO THROUGH THINGS THAT ARE
09:36:14 PERSONAL TO US, CHALLENGES, STRUGGLES, EMOTIONAL
09:36:20 CHALLENGES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, TO SHARE THEM IN
09:36:23 PUBLIC BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GET A RECEPTION SINCERE AS
09:36:25 YOUR WORD YOU FEEL A LITTLE CUT OFF.
09:36:28 NOT THAT THE RECEPTION YOU GOT UP HERE IS 110%.
09:36:29 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:36:31 WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
09:36:32 I APPRECIATE YOU.
09:36:33 I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
09:36:36 AND I APPRECIATE THAT BEAUTIFUL FAMILY BEHIND YOU.
09:36:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:36:39 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:36:39 >> THANK YOU.
09:36:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:36:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:36:47 AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, WE DO APPRECIATE YOU AND WE
09:36:50 APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICE YOU MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON
09:36:55 THAT UNIFORM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE APPRECIATE THE
09:36:59 SACRIFICE AND PATIENCE AND LOVE FROM YOUR FAMILY AS
09:37:01 THEY -- THEY LOAN YOU OUT TO US.
09:37:05 THEY GIVE YOU TO US TO OUR COMMUNITY TO KEEP US SAFE.
09:37:09 WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH AND COMING CONGRATULATIONS,
09:37:10 SIR.
09:37:11 >> THANK YOU.
09:37:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:37:16 >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE
09:37:18 SACRIFICE AND COMMITMENT THAT YOU MAKE.
09:37:20 WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY THE LAST YEAR AND A
09:37:23 HALF, COUPLE OF YEARS.
09:37:25 WHAT WE HEAR IS FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH AND
09:37:26 DEESCALATION.
09:37:28 TO THOSE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE ASKED US FOR
09:37:32 THAT, I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU ARE GETTING THIS
09:37:35 COMMENDATION SHOWS THAT YOUR PEERS AND COLLEAGUES ARE
09:37:38 CELEBRATING IT AND WORKING ON IT.
09:37:40 AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE IN THAT PROGRAM SHOW THAT WE
09:37:42 ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
09:37:45 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR -- FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE,
09:37:48 BUT THE DEDICATION OF HELPING ALL FIRST RESPONDERS IS
09:37:51 SUCH AN IMPORTANT TASK AND A HUGE MISSION.
09:37:54 AND WE COULD NEVER THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THAT.
09:37:57 AND THE DEESCALATION, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND
09:38:01 IN TALKING TO YOUR COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES
09:38:04 EXCELLENT TRAINING, BUT ALSO EXPERIENCE.
09:38:05 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WISDOM.
09:38:08 AND SO -- THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:38:13 AND THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EXAMPLE FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
09:38:16 >> THANK YOU.
09:38:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:38:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MASTER CORPORAL BAKER, YOU KNOW,
09:38:29 AGENDA ITEM 5 HAS TO DO WITH TPD AND TFR, YOU KNOW,
09:38:30 MENTAL HEALTH.
09:38:34 YOU KNOW COUNCIL, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT
09:38:36 MENTAL HEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:38:40 AND PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T LOOK -- LOOK AT
09:38:45 OURSELVES IN TERMS OF WHAT -- WHAT YOUR JOB -- AND NOT
09:38:47 JUST THE LAST TWO YEARS.
09:38:49 YOUR JOB TAKES A TOLL.
09:38:51 AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
09:38:57 AGENDA ITEM 5 SPEAKS TO MAKING SURE THAT WE PROVIDE
09:39:02 EMOTIONAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL SUPPORT TO ALL OF OUR FIRST
09:39:05 RESPONDERS, ESPECIALLY TPD.
09:39:09 LEADERSHIP COMES IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
09:39:14 AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND AS WAS SAID EARLIER AND
09:39:17 STEPPING FORWARD AND STEPPING OUT AND SPEAK TO THIS AND
09:39:21 SAYING HOW IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM
09:39:25 IS, IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT EVERYBODY IN
09:39:26 THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS.
09:39:30 AND THEY WILL LOOK -- WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK TO YOU AND
09:39:31 ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
09:39:34 AND I SEE YOUR FAMILY NODDING THEIR HEADS BEHIND YOU
09:39:38 THERE.
09:39:41 AND THE CHIEF AND I WERE -- WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS
09:39:48 JUST YESTERDAY IN TERMS OF EXPANDING SOME OF THESE
09:39:48 PROGRAMS.
09:39:52 AND WE MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GOES IN FOR THEIR ANNUAL
09:39:55 CHECK-UP AND BLOODWORK AND I JUST DID THAT THIS WEEK
09:39:58 AND MY FAMILY IS HAPPY ABOUT THAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE
09:40:01 SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S HEAD IS ON STRAIGHT TOO.
09:40:04 AND THAT'S -- THAT IS FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT,
09:40:07 INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY YOURS AND YOUR FELLOW
09:40:08 OFFICERS.
09:40:11 WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER ON AGENDA 5, BUT, AGAIN,
09:40:14 I APPRECIATE, I ADMIRE YOUR COURAGE AND LEADERSHIP.
09:40:16 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:40:16 >> THANK YOU.
09:40:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:40:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:40:22 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY.
09:40:26 YOU KNOW TODAY, POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO BE MORE THAN
09:40:28 SOMEONE CARRYING A BADGE.
09:40:30 YOU HAVE TO BE A DOCTOR.
09:40:32 YOU HAVE TO BE A PSYCHIATRIST.
09:40:36 YOU HAVE THINGS COMING AT YOU BECAUSE THE PRESSURE OF
09:40:39 LIFE HAVE CHANGED SINCE YOU AND I ARE YOUNG.
09:40:40 NOW YOU HAVE SO MANY THINGS.
09:40:43 THE KIDS ARE UNDER PRESSURE FROM THE TIME THEY WAKE UP
09:40:45 IN THE MORNING TO AT NIGHT.
09:40:48 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, WHEN I WAS A KID NO THINGS A
09:40:48 COMPUTERS.
09:40:50 NO CELL PHONES.
09:40:53 EVERYBODY KNEW EVERYTHING WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION.
09:40:57 SO THEY HAD -- THEY HAD A GREAT OPERATION.
09:41:01 I MEAN -- AND NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THESE -- DISTRACTIONS
09:41:04 OF LIFE, EVERYBODY'S PRESSURE TO SUCCEED.
09:41:08 WELL, WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP, THE ONLY THING THEY ASK
09:41:11 YOU BE A NICE PERSON, GET YOUR EDUCATION, GET MARRIED
09:41:13 AND HAVE A LIFE -- GOOD LIFE.
09:41:16 NOW THERE IS SO MANY -- MUCH PRESSURE ON THESE YOUNG
09:41:19 MEN AND WOMEN AND WHEN YOU SEE A SITUATION LIKE THE ONE
09:41:22 -- THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND DEALT WITH, THE PERSON YOU
09:41:25 ARE TALKING TO MAY TELL YOU ONE THING, BUT YOU HAVE TO
09:41:29 EVALUATE NOT ONLY WHAT THAT PERSON IS TELLING YOU BUT
09:41:32 IS THE BODY LANGUAGE EQUAL TO THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE
09:41:34 TONGUE IS COMING UP WITH IN WORDS.
09:41:39 YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT SPLIT DECISION, 1/100 OF A SECOND
09:41:42 WHETHER THE BODY AND TONGUE ARE WORKING TOGETHER OR NOT
09:41:44 SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND HOW YOU CAN
09:41:46 APPROACH IT.
09:41:48 SO YOU HAVE TO BE, AGAIN, ALMOST A GENIUS TO HANDLE
09:41:49 THESE THINGS.
09:41:50 WE WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN.
09:41:53 I KNOW TRAINING MEANS A LOT.
09:41:57 BUT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE FIELD EXPERIENCE.
09:41:59 IT IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN TRAINING BECAUSE IF YOU
09:42:03 WERE TRAINED AND NEVER HELP ONE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
09:42:04 DO.
09:42:06 YOU HAVE FACED THE SITUATION AND YOU HANDLED IT
09:42:07 PERFECT.
09:42:09 THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY AND WHAT YOU HAVE CONTINUE AND
09:42:13 TO DO FOR THIS GREAT CITY.
09:42:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:42:16 >> THANK YOU AND WELL SAID.
09:42:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
09:42:26 CORPORAL BAKER, SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS THE INNER WORKINGS.
09:42:31 AND SAY THIS SINCERELY AND TOOK A LOT OF GUTS TO TELL
09:42:33 THE PUBLIC YOUR STORY.
09:42:39 IT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS TO TELL THE INNER WORKINGS OF
09:42:44 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT YOUR STORY BECAUSE IN THE EARLY
09:42:48 DAYS YOU DIDN'T DARE TO MENTION OR TALK ABOUT THAT YOU
09:42:49 HAVE ISSUES.
09:42:55 I THINK THE CHIEF KNOWS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT AND THE
09:42:57 PROGRAM YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH.
09:42:59 I CAN TELL THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW.
09:43:03 IF YOU SEE A KID THAT IS DEAD OR YOU GET INVOLVED IN A
09:43:07 SHOOTING OR YOU GET IN A DRAG-OUT FIGHT, OR YOU GOT TO
09:43:10 DO AN INVESTIGATION AND NO ONE YOU CAN GO AND TALK TO
09:43:12 AND SHARE ABOUT THAT INVESTIGATION.
09:43:16 YOU ARE HOLDING ALL THAT IN.
09:43:18 SOMETIMES YOU GO HOME AS A POLICE OFFICER AND FIRE
09:43:20 FIGHTERS AND YOU HAVE FAMILY THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO
09:43:22 AT HOME.
09:43:24 FAMILY ISSUES AS WELL.
09:43:28 AND THOSE THINGS GET PILED UP SOMETIMES.
09:43:31 SO I AM GLAD THEIR PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
09:43:33 I WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT.
09:43:36 I AM GLAD MR. DINGFELDER PULLED THE ITEM.
09:43:40 I LOOKED AT IT -- I KNEW WE WOULD HAVE OTHER
09:43:42 DISCUSSIONS LATER ON ABOUT THAT.
09:43:45 BUT I AM GLAD HE PULLED THAT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A
09:43:45 LITTLE BIT.
09:43:48 I AM GLAD YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL YOUR STORY AND HOPE THAT
09:43:51 SOME OTHER GUYS WILL BE PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT ARE
09:43:54 GOING THROUGH ISSUES AT HOME AND IN PLACES TO GET THAT
09:43:56 EXTRA HELP THEY MAY NEED.
09:43:58 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, THANK YOU,
09:43:59 CHIEF.
09:44:00 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:44:09 [APPLAUSE]
09:44:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE THE NAACP.
09:44:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I AM GOING TO TURN THAT
09:44:18 OVER RIGHT NOW AND THEN GET TO THE FIRE FIGHTER AWARD.
09:44:20 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:44:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 44.
09:44:27 AND THE GENTLEMAN -- HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE HERE
09:44:31 AND WAS ABLE TO COME OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL TELL US
09:44:33 ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL AND ABOUT THE RESOLUTION.
09:44:36 WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PASS IT NOW TO GET THIS OUT OF THE
09:44:36 WAY.
09:44:38 MISS CAMARIA.
09:44:41 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:44:49 CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
09:44:51 APPEARING FOR ITEM 44.
09:44:56 I WANT TO INTRODUCE ROBERT IRVIN, HE IS THE NAACP'S
09:44:59 NOMINATION FOR -- WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THE
09:45:00 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
09:45:03 HE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DID PROVIDE
09:45:08 EACH COUNCILMEMBERS A LETTER FROM THE NAACP STATING
09:45:12 THAT MR. IRVIN IS IN FACT THE NAACP'S NOMINATION FOR
09:45:14 THE POSITION FOR THE CRB.
09:45:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, CAMARIA.
09:45:19 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:45:22 AND PERHAPS THE GENTLEMAN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK US TO FOR
09:45:23 A SECOND.
09:45:26 MR. SHELBY TELLS US WE NEED TO HOLD OFF ON OUR VOTE
09:45:31 UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT SO MR. IRVIN DON'T TAKE THAT
09:45:32 PERSONALLY.
09:45:36 MR. IRVIN, IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS WHY YOU
09:45:41 DECIDED TO REPRESENT NAACP ON THIS IMPORTANT PANEL.
09:45:43 COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
09:45:44 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09:45:50 IT IS A PLEASURE AND HONOR TO REPRESENT THE NAACP IN
09:45:52 THIS IMPORTANT ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:45:58 AND I DO IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND WITH A HEART OF SERVICE.
09:46:01 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY.
09:46:02 THANK YOU.
09:46:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOUR COMMENTS, SIR?
09:46:07 >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
09:46:08 JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
09:46:11 I DID SOME BACKGROUND CHECKS ON YOU -- I DON'T MEAN
09:46:13 BACKGROUND WORK -- BUT GOOGLE, FULL.
09:46:17 YOU SEEM LIKE A FINE GENTLEMAN AND GOOD VALUE FROM WHAT
09:46:22 I SAW AGED TRUST OUR FRIENDS FOR THE NAACP, AND FOR THE
09:46:24 RECORD, I WILL BE VOTING YES.
09:46:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO.
09:46:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MET RECENTLY AT AN EVENT.
09:46:32 WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND SPOKE AT LENGTH.
09:46:35 I HEARD YOUR STORY AND I HEARD MORE ABOUT YOU FROM
09:46:39 OTHER INDIVIDUALS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
09:46:42 INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND ARE WELL-RESPECTED BY A
09:46:44 LOT OF PEOPLE.
09:46:48 AND I WILL CONFIDENTLY SUPPORT YOUR APPOINTMENT TO THIS
09:46:49 BOARD.
09:46:50 THANK YOU, SIR.
09:46:51 >> THANK YOU.
09:46:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
09:46:55 >>BILL CARLSON: GOOD TO SEE YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
09:46:56 FOR STEPPING.
09:46:59 YOU MOST PEOPLE WHEN -- WHEN SOMEONE GETS A POSITION
09:47:02 LIKE THIS THINKS ABOUT THE HONOR OF GETTING IT, BUT
09:47:05 THEY DON'T KNOW AND SEE ALL THE WORK THAT GOES BEHIND
09:47:05 IT.
09:47:09 SO I REALLY APPRECIATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
09:47:12 FOLKS WHO ARE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO REALLY
09:47:14 MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:47:17 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
09:47:18 >> THANK YOU.
09:47:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
09:47:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:47:24 THE POLICE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD NOW HAS SOME ENHANCED
09:47:28 POWERS AND AUTHORITIES AND ABILITIES.
09:47:35 SO IT'S -- IT'S A NEW -- A NEW DAY AND A NEW FRONTIER.
09:47:38 YOU KNOW, WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT THERE IS NEVER ANYTHING
09:47:40 TO INVESTIGATE.
09:47:41 AND THIS WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
09:47:44 WE WOULD ALL BE HAPPY IF YOU GUYS HAD -- YOU KNOW, HAD
09:47:45 NOTHING TO DO.
09:47:48 BUT THAT'S -- THAT IS PROBABLY NOT REALITY.
09:47:50 REALITY IS THINGS HAPPEN.
09:47:54 AND THAT'S WHY THE CRB, THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WAS
09:47:55 CREATED.
09:48:01 I AM THRILLED THAT YOU ARE THERE, AS OBVIOUSLY AS A
09:48:03 FINE CITIZEN AND REPRESENTATIVE OF A FINE ORGANIZATION
09:48:06 LIKE THE NAACP.
09:48:10 I WOULD URGE YOU AND ALL OF YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS AND
09:48:12 PROBABLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING TO ASK THE TOUGH
09:48:13 QUESTIONS.
09:48:17 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT -- THAT IS WHAT REPRESENTING THE
09:48:18 COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT.
09:48:22 AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO ON CITY COUNCIL.
09:48:24 AND I AM SURE YOU WILL AS WELL.
09:48:27 THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP TO SERVE FOR THE NEXT FOUR
09:48:28 YEARS.
09:48:28 >> THANK YOU.
09:48:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
09:48:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
09:48:35 I WANT TO THANK THE NAACP BRANCH OF HILLSBOROUGH
09:48:35 COUNTY.
09:48:37 YVETTE LEWIS AS PRESIDENT.
09:48:40 THEY MADE A FINE CHOICE IN YOU, SIR.
09:48:42 MR. IRVIN, YOU HAVE STEPPED FORWARD.
09:48:45 AND WHEN YOU STEP FORWARDS, YOU CAN NEVER TAKE A STEP
09:48:49 BACKWARDS BECAUSE THE FUTURE IS THERE AND WE HAVE
09:48:53 MADE CHANGES AND THINGS CHANGE IN LIFE FOR THE
09:48:55 BETTER AND SOMETIMES FOR THE WORSE.
09:48:58 IN THIS CASE I BELIEVE THIS IS FOR THE BETTER TO MAKE
09:49:00 SURE THINGS GO AS THEY SHOULD GO.
09:49:05 THANK YOU FOR BEING STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE A FOOT
09:49:08 FORWARD AND BE NOMINATED FOR YVETTE LEWIS AND THE
09:49:10 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BRANCH OF THE NAACP.
09:49:13 GOOD THINGS FOR YOU.
09:49:15 GOD BLESS YOU.
09:49:15 >> THANK YOU.
09:49:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
09:49:20 WHEN I SAW YOUR NAME, I DID SOME INVESTIGATING OF MY
09:49:20 OWN.
09:49:24 AND YOU WILL BE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE NAACP.
09:49:25 I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
09:49:26 CONGRATULATIONS.
09:49:29 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
09:49:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. CARLSON.
09:49:34 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE MORE SMALL THING FOR ANYONE
09:49:37 WHO DIDN'T WATCH ALL THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CRB.
09:49:41 THE IDEA TO PUT THIS NAACP'S POSITION WAS THE MAYOR'S
09:49:44 IDEA AND I WANT TO THANK HER.
09:49:47 ALL OF US ARE THANKFUL FOR HER WE ARE TRYING TO
09:49:48 ADEQUATELY REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.
09:49:53 THANK YOU TO HER FOR SUGGESTING IT.
09:49:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, COME ON BACK UP, BROTHER IRVIN.
09:49:59 DON'T RUN FROM THE MIC.
09:50:01 GENTLEMEN, I KNOW HIM PERSONALLY.
09:50:05 I KNOW HIS BACKGROUND, MILITARY BACKGROUND.
09:50:08 I KNOW HIS COMMUNITY SERVICE.
09:50:15 HE IS A PART OF ONE OF THE NOBLESTS AND GREATEST OF
09:50:16 ALL.
09:50:19 AND I KNOW HE WILL DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
09:50:24 I WANT TO COMMEND THE NAACP FOR A GOOD CHOICE BECAUSE I
09:50:27 KNOW HE IS GOING TO BE UNBIASED AND I KNOW HE WILL BE
09:50:31 ABLE TO LOOK BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN IN THE MILITARY, HE
09:50:33 UNDERSTANDS BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN.
09:50:37 WHEN OFF PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS A CIVILIAN WORLD AND A
09:50:41 NONCIVILIAN WORLD, IT GIVES YOU A GREAT CANDIDATE.
09:50:44 SO I AM HAPPY ABOUT THE CHOICE.
09:50:48 AND WE WILL BE MAKING THE -- THE VOTE AFTER PUBLIC
09:50:51 COMMENT PER OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:50:53 WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL MAKE
09:50:54 THAT CHOICE.
09:50:55 I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE A PROBLEM.
09:50:59 FROM WHAT I HEARD WILL BE A UNANIMOUS DECISION.
09:51:03 THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY AND WE
09:51:10 WILL GIVE YOU THE GOOD WORD IN PROBABLY A COUPLE HOURS.
09:51:11 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:51:18 THE SOON-TO-BE COLLEAGUE DJ REYES THAT IS ON THE REVIEW
09:51:18 BOARD.
09:51:21 IF YOU HAVEN'T MET HIM, A GOOD GUY TO SHAKE HIS HAND.
09:51:24 THANK YOU.
09:51:25 >> THANK YOU.
09:51:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL SEE YOU LATER.
09:51:30 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, FOR ACCOMMODATING.
09:51:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, BACK UP ITEM NUMBER 2,
09:51:37 FIREMAN OF THE QUARTER.
09:51:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET THIS LOVELY LADY CLEAN THIS OFF.
09:51:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S AIDE -- WE
09:51:51 WILL BE TAKING A TWO OR THREE MINUTES TO CLEAN THEM OUT
09:51:54 BECAUSE THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE HAS A BUNCH OF
09:51:55 PEOPLE AS WELL.
09:52:02 AND WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THEIR TIME AS WELL.
09:52:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: STAND OVER THERE FOR A SECOND.
09:52:07 GET UP IN THERE -- I HAD TO TELL THE CHIEF AN HONOR TO
09:52:08 STAND NEXT TO HER.
09:52:11 SHE MAKES ME LOOK BETTER, BUT THIS IS THE PERSON WE ARE
09:52:12 HONORING TODAY.
09:52:16 I AM GOING TO SAY THIS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I TALK OF
09:52:19 THE TAMPA CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
09:52:24 I AM A GRADUATE OF THE TAMPA FIRE ACADEMY.
09:52:28 AND AS MY OTHER COLLEAGUES UP ON THE DAIS SHOW, WE HAVE
09:52:33 GONE OVER TO -- KNOW, WE HAVE GONE OVER TO PINELLAS FOR
09:52:35 THEIR FIRE ACADEMY.
09:52:37 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT THESE
09:52:40 BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN GO THROUGH AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT,
09:52:44 GO TO THEIR FIRE ACADEMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND
09:52:45 YOU WILL FIND OUT.
09:52:50 IN ONE DAY, YOU WILL RESUSCITATE A PERSON DRIVING
09:52:53 40-MILE-PER-HOUR IN AN AMBULANCE.
09:52:57 YOU WILL GO UP 70 FEET IN A FIRE LADDER.
09:53:00 YOU WILL GO THROUGH A SMOKEY BUILDING AND CARRY OUT A
09:53:02 BODY.
09:53:05 AND THAT'S JUST -- THAT IS NOT EVEN HAVING TO COOK FOR
09:53:08 YOUR -- FOR YOUR FIRE FIGHTERS AT YOUR STATION.
09:53:11 SO I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THE THINGS THAT THEY GO
09:53:14 THROUGH, YOU WILL LEARN AT THIS ACADEMY.
09:53:21 WE ARE HERE TODAY TO HONOR CAPTAIN RYAN BRADFORD.
09:53:24 AND TO GIVE HIM THE COMMENDATION FOR FIRE FIGHTER OF
09:53:27 THE QUARTER, AUGUST 2021.
09:53:31 BUT I WILL LET CHIEF EXPLAIN WHY THE REASON HE IS
09:53:33 DESERVED OF THIS COMMENDATION.
09:53:35 CHIEF.
09:53:37 >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:53:41 BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:53:46 SO ACTUALLY TODAY TO HONOR THIS YOUNG MAN, IT'S A GREAT
09:53:47 HONOR.
09:53:50 I HAVE KNOWN CAPTAIN BRADFORD FOR MANY YEARS.
09:53:55 FOR THE 19 TO 20 YEARS HE HAS BEEN ON THIS JOB, WE HAVE
09:53:56 BEEN TOGETHER 15.
09:53:59 HE WANTS TO CALL ME HIS MOM.
09:54:02 I CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIS MOM SO I AM LIKE HIS
09:54:04 BIGGER SISTER.
09:54:09 HE HAS BEEN A VALUABLE ASSETS TO TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND THE
09:54:11 CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:54:14 HE IS VERY DEDICATED AND MOTIVATED.
09:54:18 HE WAS NOMINATED TO BE FIRE FIGHTERS OF THE OUTSTANDING
09:54:20 LEADERSHIP.
09:54:23 BRADFORD HAS BEEN ON THE JOB SINCE 2002, HE HAS A
09:54:26 FAMILY HISTORY AND TRADITION BECAUSE HIS FATHER SERVED
09:54:29 MANY YEARS WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND DEFINITELY A
09:54:34 LEGACY, BUT THE NEW CAPTAIN RYAN BRADFORD FULFILLED HIS
09:54:37 FATHER'S SHOES AND CONTINUED TO EXCEL THROUGHOUT
09:54:38 HIS CAREER.
09:54:42 CAPTAIN BRADFORD WAS A FIRE FIGHTER, PARAMEDIC AND
09:54:44 RESCUE LIEUTENANT AND BASICALLY A CAPTAIN IN THE
09:54:47 PROCESS OF RIDING UP AS ACTING CHIEF.
09:54:51 WHAT IS FUNNY ABOUT -- OR I SHOULD SAY IRONIC FOR
09:54:58 CAPTAIN BRADFORD, FOR THE MANY YEARS -- ME AND HIM WERE
09:55:01 TOGETHER WITH CORPORAL ROBERTS.
09:55:04 WE HAVE BEEN A TEAM -- WHEN I SAY A TEAM, WE HAVE BEEN
09:55:04 A TEAM.
09:55:07 EVERY PROMOTION I GET, HE GETS THAT PROMOTION.
09:55:09 KIND OF LIKE A CHALLENGE, YOU KNOW.
09:55:11 ONE DAY HE WILL BE THE FIRE CHIEF.
09:55:14 HE WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE TO BE THE FIRE CHIEF.
09:55:16 I LIKE TO TAKE SOME CREDIT FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND
09:55:17 GUIDANCE.
09:55:21 OUT OF THE 15 YEARS I CAN'T TAKE AWAY MOM AND DAD'S
09:55:21 HISTORY.
09:55:25 THE WAY THEY RAISED THIS YOUNG MAN, BUT I CAN TAKE
09:55:27 CREDIT WITH SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP WITH THE FIRE
09:55:28 SERVICE.
09:55:30 I CONSIDER MYSELF HIS BIG SISTER, OKAY.
09:55:34 HE WANTS TO TELL ME I AM 50 YEARS OLD, BUT I AM ONLY 29.
09:55:37 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS OF
09:55:39 CAPTAIN BRADFORD.
09:55:41 A HAZMAT TECHNICIAN.
09:55:43 HE WORKED WITH URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE.
09:55:49 MADE TWO DEPLOYMENT WITH HURRICANE MICHAEL -- IRMA?
09:55:50 >> HARVEY.
09:55:52 >> AND HARVEY.
09:55:55 REPRESENTS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA VERY
09:55:56 PROFESSIONALLY.
09:55:57 HE IS ALSO ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ACTUALLY
09:56:03 IMPLEMENTED THE FAS ASSESSMENT STABILIZATION TEAM.
09:56:06 ASK YOU WHAT IS THAT?
09:56:09 THE BICYCLE TEAM FOR FIRE RESCUE AND PARAMEDICS AND
09:56:12 PROVIDE THE ALS SERVICE FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE
09:56:16 COMMUNITY WHETHER AT A SPECIAL EVENT OR WHETHER ONE OF
09:56:18 THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF
09:56:19 TAMPA.
09:56:23 SO CAPTAIN BRADFORD, HIS LEADERSHIP CONTINUES TO SHOW
09:56:26 THESE YOUNG INDIVIDUALS AS TO HIS WHOLE CREW IS HERE
09:56:31 TODAY TO HONOR CAPTAIN BRADFORD, HIS LEADERSHIP
09:56:34 TRAINING THEM WITH THE SKILLS THAT HE HAS.
09:56:38 TODAY I AM VERY HONORED TO STANDS NEXT TO MY FRIEND, MY
09:56:41 CO-WORKER, MY SUBORDINATE BUT ALWAYS MY FRIEND, MY
09:56:45 YOUNGER BROTHER, CAPTAIN RYAN BRADFORD FOR HIS
09:56:49 EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP THAT HE HAS DONE AND COMMITMENT TO
09:56:51 TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:56:59 [APPLAUSE]
09:57:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAPTAIN RYAN BRADFORD, FIRE FIGHTER
09:57:03 OF THE QUARTER, AUGUST 2021.
09:57:07 BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVICE, COMMUNITY
09:57:09 EXCELLENCE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY YOU HAVE BEEN
09:57:13 CHOSEN FOR THIS MARK OF DISTINCTION AS FIRE FIGHTER OF
09:57:14 THE QUARTER.
09:57:19 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOUR SUPERIORS WOULD LIKE TO
09:57:20 COMMEND YOUR COMMITMENT.
09:57:24 WE RECOGNIZE YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AS AN ASSET
09:57:27 TO TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND COMMEND YOU ON YOUR LEADERSHIP
09:57:32 IN VARIOUS ASSIGNMENTS INCLUDING DURING THIS YEAR'S
09:57:33 SUPER BOWL.
09:57:35 YOU GOT TO GO TO THE SUPER BOWL?
09:57:35 >> I DID.
09:57:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OH, MAN, YOU ARE LUCKY.
09:57:40 I DIDN'T GET -- ANYWAYS.
09:57:44 THE HONOR OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT CAPTAIN
09:57:50 RYAN BRADFORD THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 26TH DAY OF
09:57:52 AUGUST, 2021.
09:57:56 [APPLAUSE]
09:57:59 >>CHIEF TRIPP: BEFORE CAPTAIN BRADFORD SAYS A COUPLE
09:58:02 OF WORDS, WHEN I GOT INTO THIS POSITION AS THE INTERIM
09:58:06 FIRE CHIEF, OF COURSE, A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
09:58:08 BASICALLY THIS IS THE YOUNG MAN I CALLED FOR HELP.
09:58:11 HE ACTUALLY ASSISTED ME THROUGH ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS
09:58:15 THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AS WELL AS RAYMOND
09:58:17 JAMES STADIUM FOR OUR SPECIAL EVENT AND PARAMEDICS TO
09:58:19 GET OUT THERE AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
09:58:22 HE HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB ASSISTING ME THROUGHOUT
09:58:25 THE SUPER BOWL.
09:58:25 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:58:29 I APPRECIATE THE ACCOLADES THINK THAT GOT.
09:58:33 IT IS IN NO SMALL PART TO THE ORGANIZATION AND THE
09:58:36 ADMINISTRATION THAT I WORK WITH, AS WELL AS MY
09:58:39 PERSONNEL THAT I WORK WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.
09:58:41 MY GUYS ON ENGINE 1 C FANTASTIC.
09:58:44 THEY MAKE MY JOB EASY.
09:58:47 MY LARGER FAMILY STATION 1 AS WELL AS CHIEF REID FOR
09:58:49 ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITIES AND HELPING ME TO
09:58:53 PROGRESS THROUGH MY CAREER.
09:58:55 NONE OF THIS IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT A GOOD, STRONG BACKING
09:58:57 AND FAMILY SUPPORT.
09:59:01 MY WIFE, CHRISTINA, OVER HERE.
09:59:04 MY SONS CONNOR AND ZACHARY AND MY DAUGHTERS EMILY AND
09:59:05 MADISON.
09:59:09 THEY REALLY GIVEN ME ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES TO PURSUE MY
09:59:13 CAREER, PURSUE ALL THE SPECIALTIES WITHIN MY CAREER AND
09:59:17 GIVEN ME THE LATITUDE TO TAKE TIME AWAY FROM THEM THAT
09:59:20 I KNOW I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK THIS THEM BUT
09:59:23 I HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND IT IS FOR A GREATER GOOD.
09:59:27 WHERE IT ALL COMES FROM, THOUGH, IS LEARNING THROUGH
09:59:32 GOOD ROLE MODELS AND I PROBABLY HAVE SOME OF THE BEST
09:59:33 ROLE MODELS IN MY LIFE.
09:59:35 BOTH OF MY GRAND.
09:59:37 >> FATHERS WERE PUBLIC SERVANTS.
09:59:42 MY GRANDFATHER HENRY BRADFORD WAS RETIRED FROM THE FIRE
09:59:44 DEPARTMENT IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
09:59:49 MY FATHER WAS MARK CLAUSE, A RETIRED TPD OFFICER.
09:59:54 BOTH ARE DECEASED NOW BUT THEY WOULD BE QUITE PROUD
09:59:56 WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
10:00:00 MY DAD A 30-YEAR CAPTAIN WITH TAMPA FIRE AND SET THE
10:00:04 PRECEDENCE AND SET THE BAR PRETTY HIGH.
10:00:07 I HOPE THAT EVERYTHING I DO I MAKE ALL OF MY FAMILY
10:00:09 PROUD AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT PUBLIC SERVICE IS AN
10:00:11 EXCELLENT CALLING.
10:00:14 NOT ALWAYS THE MOST RESPECTED WHEN IT COMES TO
10:00:18 INDIVIDUALS IN THIS DAY AND AGE, BUT DEFINITELY MUCH
10:00:21 NEEDED AND RESPECTABLE CALLING.
10:00:22 THANK YOU.
10:00:28 [APPLAUSE]
10:00:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
10:00:31 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:00:33 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:00:35 CAPTAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR
10:00:35 WORDS.
10:00:38 SO GLAD THAT YOUR WONDERFUL FAMILY IS HERE TO BE ABLE
10:00:40 TO SEE YOU RECEIVE THIS HONOR.
10:00:43 AND I AM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE GENERATIONAL SERVICE
10:00:46 AS FIRST RESPONDERS.
10:00:49 YOU FIND THAT A LOT, WHICH IS A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT
10:00:52 HAVE A FIRE FIGHTER, A POLICE OFFICER OR A VETERAN,
10:00:56 SOMEONE IN THE MILITARY, THAT IT IS GENERATIONAL AND A
10:00:57 LEGACY OF SERVICE.
10:01:01 A LEGACY OF RUNNING INTO SITUATIONS THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME
10:01:04 RUN AWAY FROM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOUR FAMILY
10:01:07 HAS DONE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN NOT ONLY WITH FIRE
10:01:10 BUT WITH A POLICE OFFICER.
10:01:11 VOCATIONS THAT GO TOGETHER A LOT.
10:01:16 I ALWAYS MAKE SURE WHEN I TALK ABOUT FIRE, I ALSO TALK
10:01:19 ABOUT POLICE AND VICE VERSA BECAUSE YOU ALL GO
10:01:20 TOGETHER.
10:01:22 IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, BUT YOU ARE BROTHERS AND
10:01:26 SISTERS IN -- IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND PARTNERS IN THAT
10:01:27 REGARD.
10:01:28 THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
10:01:29 AND GOD BLESS YOU.
10:01:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:01:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:01:34 CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
10:01:37 PUBLIC SERVICE IS IN YOUR BLOOD AS YOU INDICATED.
10:01:43 INSTILLED IN YOUR LIFE OF THOSE BEFORE YOU WHO SERVED
10:01:46 AND THAT IS HOW YOU ARE RAISED TO HELP AND GIVE BACK
10:01:48 AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
10:01:51 I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
10:01:54 THE SACRIFICE THEY MAKE WHEN YOU PUT ON THAT UNIFORM TO
10:01:56 GO OUT.
10:01:56 THAT IS WHO YOU ARE.
10:01:59 FEARLESS LIKE SO MANY OTHERS THAT ARE FIRE FIGHTERS AND
10:02:00 POLICE BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE TO SERVE.
10:02:04 YOU ARE HERE TO PROTECT AND TAKE CARE OF US OUR
10:02:07 COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY WHEN YOU
10:02:08 GO TO WORK.
10:02:10 DON'T FORGET THE LIVES THAT YOU HAVE CHANGED
10:02:11 POSITIVELY.
10:02:14 THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE SAVED AND THOSE YOU HELP EACH AND
10:02:17 EVERY DAY, CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
10:02:17 >> THANK YOU.
10:02:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:02:21 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
10:02:24 THANK YOU TO YOUR FATHER FOR HIS SERVICE AND THANK YOU
10:02:27 FOR YOUR FAMILY FOR SUPPORT -- SUPPORTING YOU.
10:02:30 YOU TALK OF THE REPUTATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS OR WHAT
10:02:31 PEOPLE THINK OF THEM.
10:02:33 FIRST OF ALL, I THINK JUST ABOUT EVERY KID WANTS TO
10:02:35 GROW UP BEING A FIRE FIGHTER.
10:02:38 SO WHEN THEY ARE THE AGE OF YOUR KIDS, FIRE FIGHTERS
10:02:43 ARE THE MOST THAT ANY KID COULD ASPIRE TO BE BECAUSE
10:02:45 THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE'S LIVES AND GET
10:02:50 DISTRACTED BY OTHER THINGS BUT I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS
10:02:51 THEY RESPECT THEM ANY LESS.
10:02:54 MORE IMPORTANTLY WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS FIRE RESCUE, YOU
10:02:56 ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
10:02:59 FOR THOSE MOMENTS, YOU ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN
10:03:02 THE WORLD AND THEY WILL NEVER FORGET FOR YOU ALL DO AND
10:03:04 HAVE A NEW RESPECT FOR YOU.
10:03:07 AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO CALL.
10:03:10 BUT WE ALL HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE THANKFUL
10:03:13 THAT YOU ALL ARE THERE AND YOU MAKE SACRIFICES EVERY
10:03:16 DAY.
10:03:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:03:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:03:26 CAPTAIN, I TRY TO AVOID TRITE STATEMENTS BECAUSE MY
10:03:28 WIFE TELLS ME THINK THAT ALWAYS MESS THEM UP.
10:03:33 THE EXPRESSION THERE IS NO "I" IN TEAM I THINK APPLIES
10:03:34 TO YOU.
10:03:37 WHEN I LOOK BEHIND YOU, I SEE YOUR TEAM THERE.
10:03:40 I SEE THE OTHER CAPTAINS AND CHIEFS AND YOUR FATHER AND
10:03:42 YOUR WIFE AND YOUR CHILDREN.
10:03:45 AND THAT IS YOUR TEAM.
10:03:47 AND YOU MENTIONED IT IN YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU
10:03:49 COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THEM.
10:03:52 AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO YOU.
10:03:55 AND WE APPRECIATE YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM THAT
10:03:58 IS THERE SUPPORTING THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU DO IN OUR
10:03:59 COMMUNITY.
10:04:01 SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU.
10:04:03 MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:04:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAPTAIN BRADFORD, THANK YOU FOR
10:04:08 YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY.
10:04:09 YOU WORK AS ONE.
10:04:12 YOU DO THE DUTY, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES PULLING THE TIME
10:04:13 WITHOUT YOU.
10:04:16 AND IT IS A MARRIAGE THAT REALLY HOLDS TOGETHER BECAUSE
10:04:24 WHEN YOU WORK 24 HOURS STRAIGHT, AND YOU GO HOME, YOU
10:04:27 SIT AT FIRE STATION AND MANY, MANY CALLS AND SCENARIOS
10:04:30 THAT MOST OF THE PUBLIC CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEN
10:04:32 AND WOMEN DO IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE
10:04:32 DEPARTMENT.
10:04:37 AND IT IS INCUMBENT UPON EVERYTHING YOU SAID AS TO WHY
10:04:39 WE HAVE A GREAT CITY AND THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE.
10:04:43 BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT YOUR FAMILY TREE.
10:04:46 HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THE DEPARTMENT OR OTHER
10:04:47 DEPARTMENTS.
10:04:51 AND CITRO TALKING ABOUT -- AND OTHER -- VIERA ALSO
10:04:55 MENTIONED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT FOLLOW
10:04:58 IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF SOMEONE IN THEIR FAMILY.
10:05:00 HOWEVER, YOU DON'T FIND THAT TOO MUCH IN THE POLITICAL
10:05:02 ARENA, I HATE TO SAY.
10:05:06 SOME DO, BUT VERY FEW COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT THAT JOIN
10:05:11 OR TRY TO JOIN AND BE -- EMULATE WHAT THEIR PARENT DID,
10:05:12 MEN AND WOMEN.
10:05:16 AND NOW YOU HAVE A DIVERSE DEPARTMENT THAT 30 YEARS AGO
10:05:18 YOU DIDN'T HAVE.
10:05:21 IT WAS CERTAIN AREAS ONLY FOR MEN IN BOTH.
10:05:24 AND NOW YOU HAVE THE DIVERSITY OF MEN AND WOMEN.
10:05:28 AND ALL OF YOU TOGETHER, WORKING TOGETHER, MAKING ONE
10:05:34 FANTASTIC TEAM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:05:38 I REMEMBER SOME TIME BACK IN THE '90S I TOOK THE HAZMAT
10:05:39 COURSE.
10:05:42 I SAID MY GOD THEY KNOW WHAT EXPLODE, WHAT DOESN'T
10:05:46 EXPLODE, WHAT TIME IT WILL EXPLODE, WHAT HEAT IT TAKES.
10:05:49 THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB LIKE WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR
10:05:50 MOTION.
10:05:51 WE WANT TO THANK YOU.
10:05:54 SOMETIMES WE FORGET WHAT MEN AND WOMEN IN THE FIRE AND
10:05:57 POLICE DEPARTMENT DO UNTIL YOU NEED THEM.
10:06:00 I KNOW IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY AT THE HOUSE, YOU CALL
10:06:01 911.
10:06:04 THE FIRST THING YOU WANT TO DO SEE THE INDIVIDUALS COME
10:06:07 UP AND PUT AN ARM BAND ON YOU, GIVE YOU BLOOD PRESSURE
10:06:08 AND DO THIS.
10:06:10 YOU FEEL MUCH BETTER JUST LOOKING AT THEM.
10:06:16 I WANT TO THANK AGAIN ALL OF YOU.
10:06:19 GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY FOR YOU BEING ON 24 HOURS.
10:06:22 AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE
10:06:23 DONE.
10:06:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA AND MR. CITRO, I AM NOT
10:06:38 GOING TO LET MY GOOD FRIEND LUIS VIERA --
10:06:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT MR. CHAIR, WE MADE IT OUT OF
10:06:43 THERE.
10:06:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SURE DID.
10:06:46 IT WAS A TEAMMATE.
10:06:47 WE GOT HIM OUT OF THERE.
10:06:52 IT WAS GREAT -- I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, GENERATION.
10:06:56 MY DAD ALWAYS TOLD ME, I WANT MY KIDS TO BE BETTER THAN
10:06:57 I WAS.
10:07:01 AND I THINK YOUR DAD IS SEEING THAT BY WHAT THE FIRE
10:07:02 CHIEF IS SAYING.
10:07:04 YOU ARE AT ANOTHER LEVEL.
10:07:07 AND YOU PROBABLY WILL BE AT ANOTHER LEVEL SHORTLY, I AM
10:07:11 SURE, THE WAY THE CHIEF IS SPEAKING OF THE WORK YOU
10:07:13 HAVE DONE AS FAR AS WHEN SHE FIRST BECAME THE INTERIM
10:07:18 CHIEF AND ABLE TO TAKE HER ASIDE AND HELP HER WITH SOME
10:07:20 OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THE FIRE
10:07:20 DEPARTMENT.
10:07:24 AS WE CAN SEE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS MOVING IN A
10:07:26 DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND WE ARE PROUD OF THE FIRE CHIEF
10:07:30 AND THE PEOPLE SHE HAS WORKING BESIDE HER TO MOVE IT TO
10:07:32 WHERE SHE WANTS IT TO GO FOR OUR CITIZENS.
10:07:36 I TELL CITIZENS AND PEOPLE WHO DOUBT, SOMETIMES WE MAKE
10:07:39 SPECIAL VOTES OF PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR FIRE AND POLICE
10:07:39 DEPARTMENT.
10:07:43 I ALWAYS ASK THEM CAN YOU DO WHAT THEY DO?
10:07:45 CAN YOU RUN INTO A FIRE?
10:07:48 CAN YOU DO CPR?
10:07:55 CAN YOU STOP SOMEBODY FROM A FIGHT WHO HAS A GUN?
10:07:58 I ALWAYS ASK THAT QUESTION.
10:08:00 THAT IS NOT FOR ME.
10:08:02 WELL, SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IT.
10:08:04 SOMEONE HAS TO DO THAT JOB.
10:08:08 I AM GLAD THEIR DOING THAT JOB WITH OUR TAMPA FIRE CREW
10:08:11 AND WHAT OUR NEW FIRE CHIEF.
10:08:13 GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT
10:08:13 YOU DO.
10:08:17 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK, IF I
10:08:17 MAY.
10:08:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:08:23 >>LUIS VIERA: ONE DAY COUNCILMAN CITRO, GUDES AND I
10:08:28 MET WITH MY -- NOW MY WIFE, COLLEEN O'BRIAN, TO THIS
10:08:29 TAMPA FIRE TRAINING THING.
10:08:31 AND I FLUNKED OUT.
10:08:32 I DID AWFUL.
10:08:37 JOE GR GRECO HAD TO PULL ME OUT OF THIS BUILDING, OKAY.
10:08:40 WEARING THESE PANTS WITHOUT SUSPENDERS.
10:08:41 MY PANTS DROPPED.
10:08:43 IT WAS SO EMBARRASSING.
10:08:46 GOES WITH WHAT IS IN YOUR BLOOD, BECAUSE MY WIFE,
10:08:49 RIGHT, WHOSE GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS A BOSTON FIRE
10:08:52 FIGHTER, HIS BROTHER WAS A COP, MARINES, COPS, FIRE
10:08:54 FIGHTERS ALL THE WAY TO HER DAD WHO WAS A COP AND A
10:08:55 MARINE.
10:08:58 SHE ACED IT, BUT ME, I DON'T HAVE IT.
10:08:59 I DON'T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES.
10:09:00 SO THERE YOU GO.
10:09:02 I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
10:09:04 I AM GLAD TO LAUGH AT MYSELF.
10:09:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FUNNY NOW, FOLKS.
10:09:08 BUT IT WASN'T FUNNY THEN.
10:09:11 I CAN TELL YOU, WE CAN LAUGH ABOUT THAT, BUT WHEN THE
10:09:14 RUBBER HIT THE ROAD THAT DAY WHEN WE WERE IN THERE,
10:09:16 THAT WAS A SERIOUS DEAL.
10:09:18 PLANNED CITRO CAN TELL YOU.
10:09:20 AND I AM GLAD I HAVE A LITTLE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I HAVE
10:09:22 BEEN IN A FIRE BEFORE.
10:09:26 AND GONE IN SMOKING -- AND KNEW WHAT TO DO, BUT I CAN
10:09:29 TELL YOU ONE THING, YOU KNOW, IT IS A KEY THING, YOU
10:09:33 KNOW, THAT HOSE, THAT HOSE IS A LIFESAVER.
10:09:35 YOU DON'T LET GO OF THE HOSE.
10:09:37 IF YOU LET GO OF THE HOSE, YOU LOST.
10:09:42 AND FORTUNATELY ME AND MR. CITRO DID NOT LET GO AND GET
10:09:44 OURSELVES OUT.
10:09:48 BUT A PANICKY MOMENT TO BE ALL IN BLACK AND YOU CAN'T
10:09:48 SEE.
10:09:52 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR THE
10:09:55 EXPERIENCE AND BEING ABLE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THAT STORY
10:09:58 AND AGAIN MY GOOD FRIEND, WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:09:59 HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
10:10:01 >> THANK YOU.
10:10:07 [APPLAUSE]
10:10:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, WE ARE NOW GOING TO ALLOW
10:10:13 THOSE THAT WANT TO GIVE THE GIFTS TO THESE POLICE
10:10:17 OFFICERS AND FIRE FIGHTERS THE CHANCE TO DO THAT BEFORE
10:10:20 WE TAKE A BREAK.
10:10:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
10:10:25 I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT OUT THERE.
10:10:27 BUT I THINK YOU RECOGNIZE ALL THE FOLKS.
10:10:28 WE ARE BEHIND TIME.
10:10:31 IT IS ALREADY 10 AFTER 10:00.
10:10:36 SO I PREFER THAT WE -- WE RECOGNIZE NAMES THAT YOU HAVE
10:10:39 ALREADY GIVEN AND TAKE A BREAK AND NEED TO GET TO THE
10:10:41 HISPANIC HERITAGE FOLKS NEXT.
10:10:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND.
10:10:45 I AM SURE THE FIRE FIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS WILL
10:10:46 UNDERSTAND ALSO.
10:10:50 I JUST NEED TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT WHILE WE ARE HERE ON
10:10:51 THE TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS.
10:10:56 WE AS CITY LEADERS REALIZE THAT THEIR JOB WILL NEVER
10:10:59 GET EASIER.
10:11:03 BUT WE, AS LEADERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, NEED TO HELP
10:11:07 EASE THEIR JOBS AND THIS CITY NEEDS TWO NEW FIRE
10:11:10 STATIONS, ONE IN THE NORTH, ONE IN THE SOUTH.
10:11:14 NEED SATELLITE OFFICES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FIRE RESCUE
10:11:19 AND SO WE CAN HAVE RESCUE VEHICLES IN NECESSARY PLACES.
10:11:22 AND I STAND FIRM ON THAT AND I HOPE I CAN GET SUPPORT
10:11:23 ON THAT.
10:11:24 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:11:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:11:29 GENTLEMEN, TAKE A THREE TO FIVE MINUTES -- FIVE MINUTES
10:11:32 FOR MISS EDWARDS TO CLEAR THIS OUT AND GET THE NEXT
10:11:34 CREW IN SO WE CAN GET THIS THING MOVING.
10:11:38 WE ARE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
10:22:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
10:22:30 ROLL CALL PLEASE.
10:22:31 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:22:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:22:38 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:22:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
10:22:44 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:22:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:22:51 JULIE YO IS HERE TODAY.
10:22:53 HOW ARE YOU DOING, MY FRIEND.
10:22:54 >> HOW ARE YOU DOING.
10:22:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE TO HAVE THE HISPANIC -- MR.
10:22:58 MIRANDA, THAT WAS YOUR MOTION.
10:22:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MOTION.
10:23:08 AND THIS A HISTORICAL THING.
10:23:12 THEY COME UP ONE A YEAR TO TALK OF THE 33RD ANNUAL
10:23:12 HISPANIC HERITAGE.
10:23:18 THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB FOR MANY YEARS.
10:23:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: TELL US ABOUT IT, JULIO.
10:23:26 >> I AM JULIO BARRERA AND CHAIR OF THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC
10:23:27 HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
10:23:30 WE ARE HERE TO EXTEND AN INVITATION TO THE MAYOR'S
10:23:31 HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION.
10:23:34 THIS WAS OUR 33RD YEAR EVENT.
10:23:39 IT WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE
10:23:43 BUILDING RIGHT HERE IN THE COURTYARD SEPTEMBER 28 AT 11
10:23:43 A.M.
10:23:47 THIS YEAR DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, WE ARE HOSTING A SMALLER
10:23:54 SIZE EVENT TO CELEBRATE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
10:24:00 THIS NEW YEAR'S PROGRAM WILL HAVE RECOGNITION WINNERS
10:24:05 OF OUR FIRST ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE POSTER CONTEST
10:24:09 AND WE WILL HAVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE LIMITED
10:24:12 ATTENDEES THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THAT DAY.
10:24:18 THE ENTERTAINMENT WILL BE CITY OF TAMPA GYM AND DANCE,
10:24:21 AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING FREE FOOD FOR THE FIRST 80
10:24:25 ATTENDEES THAT SHOW UP.
10:24:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:24:29 I THINK MR. VIERA IS COMING DOWN.
10:24:30 HE WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
10:24:33 GIVE HIM A COUPLE OF SECONDS TO GET DOWNSTAIRS.
10:24:37 MR. MANISCALCO, ANYTHING, SIR?
10:24:38 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION
10:24:41 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING THERE AND JOINING US AND
10:24:42 WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
10:24:48 AND THE TEAM EFFORT HERE AND BEING THAT -- YOU KNOW, I
10:24:50 AM THE SON OF IMMIGRANT.
10:24:52 THE PROUD SON OF IMMIGRANTS.
10:24:53 MY MOTHER IS FROM CUBA.
10:24:55 I AM FIRST GENERATION HERE.
10:24:57 I HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART BECAUSE IT IS MY
10:25:00 FAMILY'S STORY AND THE STORY OF A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
10:25:03 HAVE COME TO TAMPA AND BUILT THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT
10:25:09 TAMPA IS BUILT BY THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND MANY
10:25:11 IMMIGRANTS.
10:25:12 LOOKING FORWARD TO THE EVENT.
10:25:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
10:25:16 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
10:25:19 IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY CAN YOU PLEASE E-MAIL US ANY
10:25:22 GRAPHICS WE HAVE SO POST IT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA
10:25:24 CHANNELS TO PROMOTE IT.
10:25:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
10:25:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
10:25:31 IT WILL BE GREAT AND PROUD YOU ARE CARRYING ON THIS
10:25:33 TRADITION FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
10:25:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:50 [SPEAKING SPANISH]
10:25:55 >> MUCHO GRACIAS.
10:25:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO THE
10:25:57 I.T. GUYS.
10:25:59 I AM LOOKING AT THE SCREEN AND SAYS YOU ARE SPEAKING
10:26:03 SPANISH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
10:26:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID EVERYTHING IS NICE.
10:26:10 I TOLD HIM I COMMENDED HIM ON HIS HAIRCUT, IT LOOKS
10:26:11 JUST LIKE MINE.
10:26:12 [LAUGHTER]
10:26:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE.
10:26:17 PLEASE SEND US ALL THE INFORMATION TO OUR OFFICES TO WE
10:26:18 CAN PARTICIPATE.
10:26:21 I AM GOING TO SEE IF I CAN GET MISS MATOS AND THE
10:26:27 CLERK'S OFFICE AND MAYBE MR. VIERA TO POLISH ME UP IN
10:26:30 MY SPANISH TO WALK AROUND AND SPEAK A LITTLE SPANISH.
10:26:33 I THINK MR. VIERA WAS COMING DOWN TO SECOND FLOOR.
10:26:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE MAY BE THERE FOR THE NEXT ITEM,
10:26:38 MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:26:40 GUDES THAT'S RIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM.
10:26:42 WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE INVITE AND LOOK FORWARD
10:26:44 TO YOUR EVENT.
10:26:45 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:47 I CAN'T DO ANYTHING HERE WITHOUT THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME.
10:26:51 WE HAVE A MUCH LARGER GROUP THAT COULDN'T ATTEND TODAY,
10:26:54 BUT THIS COMMITTEE HAS WORKED VERY HARD PUTTING THIS
10:26:55 TOGETHER.
10:26:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, JULIO.
10:27:02 AND I WILL WEAR MY MASK YOU GAVE ME FROM LAST YEAR.
10:27:07 >> MUCHO GRACIAS.
10:27:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:27:11 THANK YOU FOR WAITING.
10:27:23 NEXT UP ITEM NUMBER 4, WE HAVE MR. VIERA WITH COLONEL
10:27:27 DJ REYES.
10:27:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:27:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:35 AND I -- I APPRECIATE THIS A GREAT DEAL, MR. CHAIR,
10:27:37 BECAUSE I MOTIONED FOR THIS LAST WEEK.
10:27:40 I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY NORTHERN LIGHT OF THE -- A LOT OF
10:27:42 EMOTIONS HAPPENING IN THE TAMPA COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW
10:27:45 WITH REGARDS TO AFGHANISTAN AND THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN
10:27:47 AND THE ENDING OF THAT.
10:27:51 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE MY GOOD
10:27:55 FRIEND, COLONEL DJ REYES, COME AND GIVE VERY BRIEF WORDS
10:27:59 ON THE VALOR OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVED IN
10:28:01 AFGHANISTAN AND WHATNOT.
10:28:04 COLONEL REYES COMES FROM MILITARY FAMILY WITH HIS
10:28:08 FATHER ENLISTING IN THE ARMY WILL IN 1950 AND BEING
10:28:11 KOREAN AND VIETNAM VETERAN.
10:28:15 COLONEL REYES HAS BEEN DEPLOYED FROM BOSNIA TO HAITI TO
10:28:19 IRAQ TO KOSOVO TO AFGHANISTAN AND SENIOR MENTOR IN OUR
10:28:23 VETERANS TREATMENT CORP AND HERE TO
10:28:25 TALK OF OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL IN AFGHANISTAN.
10:28:29 WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE COLONEL ANDY STEVENS WITH THE
10:28:32 UNITED STATES AIR FORCE RESERVE AND ARMY VETERAN AND
10:28:36 VETERAN TREATMENT COURT MENTOR AND A GOLD STAR MOTHER
10:28:40 ANNETTE KIRK, THE GOLD STAR MOTHER TO THE LATE PAUL
10:28:44 KAZUPE WHO GAVE ALL IN AFGHANISTAN JUST OVER TEN YEARS
10:28:45 AGO.
10:28:49 I WILL INVITE COLONEL REYES.
10:28:50 GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:28:53 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:28:57 ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ON THE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE OF
10:28:59 OUR MILITARY VETERANS THAT SUPPORTED OR ARE CURRENTLY
10:29:03 SUPPORTING THE TWO DECADES-LONG AFGHANISTAN OPERATION.
10:29:07 SUPPORT TO AFGHANISTAN IS ESPECIALLY MEANINGFUL FOR
10:29:08 MANY OF US HERE IN TAMPA.
10:29:11 AS YOU MAY KNOW, FLORIDA RANKS CLOSELY BEHIND TEXAS AND
10:29:14 CALIFORNIA WITH THE MOST VETERANS.
10:29:17 AND OUR SUNSHINE STATES, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RANKS AS
10:29:21 THE TOP COUNTIES WITH THE MOST VETERANS AND ACTING
10:29:22 SERVING MILITARY.
10:29:26 IN OUR GREAT CITY OF TAMPA, THE ONLY DEPARTMENT OF
10:29:31 DEFENSE MILITARY BASE WITH TWO FOUR-STAR COMBAT AND
10:29:34 COMMAND HEADQUARTERS EXIST AT THE VERY END OF BAYSHORE
10:29:35 BOULEVARD.
10:29:38 THE U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND AND THE U.S. SPECIAL
10:29:39 OPERATIONS COMMAND.
10:29:42 THESE TWO COMMANDS HAVE LITERALLY CARRIED THE LION
10:29:45 SHARE OF THE 20-YEAR GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM.
10:29:49 I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE ON SERVING IN UNITS
10:29:52 UNDER BOTH OF THESE COMMANDS AND COMBAT THEATRES OF WAR
10:29:55 THAT INCLUDE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
10:29:57 I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN SAYING THERE ARE MANY IN OUR
10:30:01 LOCAL COMMUNITY WHO HAVE PROUDLY FOUGHT SHOULDER TO
10:30:05 SHOULDER ALONGSIDE OUR AFGHAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
10:30:08 AFGHAN SUPPORT TO U.S. FORCES EXPANDED BEYOND
10:30:09 INTERPRETER SUPPORT.
10:30:12 IT ALSO INCLUDED A VARIETY OF SERVICES THAT ASSISTED IN
10:30:16 OUR OWN SECURITY, GOVERNANCE AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
10:30:20 WHAT MUST NOT BE LOST IS THE FACT THAT AFGHANS ASSISTED
10:30:24 WHILE UNDER THE CONSTANT DAILY THREAT TO THEIR OWN
10:30:27 LIVES AND THOSE OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.
10:30:30 WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST NATION AND DEMOCRACY KNOWN TO
10:30:31 CIVILIZATION.
10:30:34 AND PART OF THIS PRIVILEGE IS THE FREEDOM TO DISSENT,
10:30:37 TO DISAGREE AND TO EVEN CAST BLAME.
10:30:39 I OFFER THIS THOUGHT TO EVERYBODY.
10:30:42 NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR THAT.
10:30:45 ROME IS BURNING AND OUR OWN AMERICAN CITIZENS AND
10:30:48 AFGHAN SUPPORTERS ARE AT RISK OF DEATH.
10:30:51 SO I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THREE SIMPLE THOUGHTS AS I
10:30:55 URGE FOR THE WISDOM AND DECISIVE ACTION ON PART OF OUR
10:30:56 SENIOR NATIONAL LEADERSHIP.
10:30:59 FIRST, TO ALL THE VETERANS OUT THERE WHO SERVED IN
10:31:02 AFGHANISTAN, DID YOU WHAT YOU WERE WITH TOLD TO DO.
10:31:06 DID YOU IT WITH HONOR, DIGNITY, RESPECT AND FIDELITY.
10:31:09 YOUR APPLICATIONS POSITIVELY IMPACTED ON THE LIVES OF
10:31:13 THOUSANDS OF AFGHANS INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
10:31:16 YOU GAVE THEM HOPE FOR A BETTER FUTURE.
10:31:20 IN DOING SO, YOU ALSO GUARANTEED THE PROTECTION OF OUR
10:31:23 OWN HOMELAND FROM TERRORIST ATTACKS FOR THE LAST 20
10:31:24 YEARS.
10:31:28 SECOND, TO OUR GOLD STAR FAMILIES.
10:31:33 WAR UNFORTUNATELY COMES AT A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE COST.
10:31:38 HOWEVER YOUR LOSSES, OUR LOSSES WERE NOT IN VAIN.
10:31:42 WE WILL ALWAYS HONOR OUR FALLEN, AND WE WILL NEVER,
10:31:47 NEVER FORGET OUR, YOURS AND THEIR SERVICE AND ULTIMATE
10:31:48 SACRIFICE.
10:31:51 AND THIRD, TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO ALL AMERICANS, OUR
10:31:53 MISSION NOW IS VERY CLEAR.
10:31:57 WE MUST GET OUR AMERICAN CITIZENS SAFELY OUT OF
10:31:57 AFGHANISTAN.
10:31:58 PERIOD.
10:32:01 THE MILITARY LIVES BY ITS MANTRA LEAVE NO SERVICEMEMBER
10:32:02 BEHIND.
10:32:04 THIS APPLIES TO ALL AMERICANS.
10:32:09 OPINION ADDITIONALLY, WE MUST DO ALL WE CAN TO SAFELY
10:32:12 EVACUATE OUR AFGHAN SUPPORTERS WHO ARE ALREADY BEING
10:32:14 TARGETED AND LOCATED BY THE TALIBAN.
10:32:17 THIS SITUATION IS SO DIRE THAT INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS
10:32:22 COMPRISED FORMER MILITARY SPECIAL FORCES AND
10:32:26 INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL HAVE FORMED AND DOING ALL THEY
10:32:30 CAN FROM THE BACK END TO GET SHARE INTERPRETERS AND
10:32:31 SUPPORT PERSONNEL OUT OF COUNTRY.
10:32:34 AS A NATION WE HAVE THIS CAPABILITY, BUT TIME AND OUR
10:32:37 REMAINING OPTIONS ARE DWINDLING AND FACING A RESILIENT
10:32:41 HARDENED ENEMY WITH OTHER MALIGN ACTORS WAITING IN THE
10:32:42 SHADOWS.
10:32:46 AGAIN, I AND MANY OTHERS URGE FOR THE WISDOM AND
10:32:50 DECISIVE ACTION OF OUR SENIOR NATIONAL LEADERSHIP.
10:32:52 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:32:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:56 I AM GOING TO ASK, IF I MAY, COLONEL STEVEN TO READ THE
10:33:00 NAME OF THE 20 INDIVIDUALS FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHO
10:33:02 GAVE ALL IN AFGHANISTAN.
10:33:04 COLONEL.
10:33:06 >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:33:10 NAMES OF THE FOLLOWING SERVICEMEMBERS WHO GIVEN THE
10:33:13 ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN ENDURING FREEDOM THAT HAS BEEN
10:33:16 FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OR WITH RELEVANT TIES TO
10:33:17 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:33:20 SERGEANT DANIEL MCKINNON AGNUS.
10:33:25 SERGEANT CORY BUTREL CLARK SR.
10:33:31 PRIVATE FIRST CLASS WALL ARAZA ZUPE, II.
10:33:35 FIRST LIEUTENANT DIMITRI CASTILLO.
10:33:39 CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER SCOTT DYER.
10:33:44 SERGEANT FIRST CLASS JASON JOHN FEBREZE.
10:33:49 LANCE CORPORAL DONALD -- RONALD DOUGLAS FREEMAN.
10:33:55 STAFF SERGEANT JOSEPH FREDERICK FIRST III.
10:33:59 CORPORAL AARON MATTHEW GRENER.
10:34:03 CORPORAL FRANK ROBERT GROSS.
10:34:08 SPECIALIST DAVID ALAN HESS.
10:34:12 SPECIALIST CORY COLE.
10:34:17 FIRST LIEUTENANT IVAN DEREK LAQUWAY.
10:34:22 SERGEANT FIRST CLASS MATTHEW IVAN LEGETT.
10:34:27 SPECIALIST ERIC NATHANIEL LAMKE.
10:34:34 SPECIALIST KRISTOF J. MARKIE.
10:34:37 STAFF SERGEANT RICARDO SEAYA.
10:34:41 SPECIALIST ZACHARY SHANNON.
10:34:45 CORPORAL ANTONIO JAMES SLED.
10:34:54 AND STAFF SERGEANT MICHAEL DEWAYNE THOMAS.
10:34:56 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
10:34:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:35:00 BRIEFLY ANY COMMENTS?
10:35:03 MR. MANISCALCO?
10:35:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW, THE NAMES WERE READ OF
10:35:10 THESE GREAT AMERICAN HEROES AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE
10:35:12 AND THAT IS HOW THEY WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED.
10:35:15 WHILE WE ARE HERE NOW AND LONG AFTER WE ARE GONE.
10:35:18 THIS COUNTRY IS FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR THE ULTIMATE
10:35:21 SACRIFICE THEY MADE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
10:35:25 WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE FAMILIES AND THE SACRIFICES THEY
10:35:25 MADE.
10:35:27 THEY WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
10:35:30 THEY WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
10:35:34 I MEAN THE COURAGE THAT IT TAKES TO GO AND SERVE YOUR
10:35:35 COUNTRY IN THAT CAPACITY.
10:35:39 KNOWING THE RISK THAT IS BEING TAKEN, BUT THEY PUT
10:35:40 COUNTRY FIRST.
10:35:44 AND THEY MADE THAT ULTIMATE SACRIFICE AND THOSE THAT
10:35:47 SERVED ALONGSIDE, THOSE THAT DID COME BACK, WE ARE
10:35:48 FOREVER GRATEFUL.
10:35:50 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
10:35:54 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE
10:35:56 INDIVIDUALS YOU MENTIONED AND TO THEIR FAMILIES FOR
10:36:00 THEIR ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR OUR COUNTRY AND FOR WORLD
10:36:01 PEACE.
10:36:02 THANK YOU.
10:36:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:36:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:36:14 REGARDLESS OF THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THIS, THE MEN AND
10:36:19 WOMEN WHO SERVED OUR COUNTRY IN AFGHANISTAN DID THEIR
10:36:20 DUTY.
10:36:24 AND THEY SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED FOR THE GREAT SERVICE IN
10:36:29 WHICH THEY HAVE GIVEN TO OUR COUNTRY AND TO OUR
10:36:30 CITIZENS.
10:36:36 WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE A LONG LOOK AT THOSE AFGHAN PEOPLE
10:36:41 WHO ASSISTED US IN DOING THAT DUTY.
10:36:46 AND TO OFFER OUR HELP, THEY GAVE THEIR COMMITMENT TO
10:36:48 THIS COUNTRY.
10:36:52 SO COUNCILMAN VIERA, COLONEL REYES AND THE OTHERS THAT
10:36:53 ARE DOWNSTAIRS.
10:36:55 I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
10:36:56 THANK YOU.
10:36:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:37:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:37:04 LUIS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
10:37:06 THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
10:37:10 THE SACRIFICE OF THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES IS JUST BEYOND
10:37:11 COMPREHENSION.
10:37:18 BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW AS MUCH AS WE CAN, OUR
10:37:20 HEARTS ARE WITH YOU.
10:37:25 COLONEL REYES AND I HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF SERVING
10:37:29 TOGETHER IN VETERANS COURT.
10:37:34 AND THE -- WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE SACRIFICES OF
10:37:38 THOSE WHO COME HOME.
10:37:42 BECAUSE EVEN IF THEY MADE IT BACK HOME WITHOUT PHYSICAL
10:37:45 SCARRING, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL
10:37:46 SCARRING.
10:37:50 AND THEY END UP IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WE
10:37:58 DO WHEN POSSIBLE WE NEED TO BE COMPASSIONATE TOWARD
10:38:02 THOSE AND RECOGNIZE THAT CERTAIN TRAUMA THAT RESULTED
10:38:04 IN 20 YEARS OF THAT TYPE OF FIGHTING.
10:38:09 AND THAT TYPE OF EXPOSURE RESULTS -- SOMETIMES RESULTS
10:38:12 IN BAD BEHAVIOR.
10:38:17 WE HAVE TO HAVE COMPASSION AND CARING AND THAT HAPPENS
10:38:19 IN VETERANS COURT.
10:38:22 WE APPRECIATE THAT PART OF YOUR SERVICE.
10:38:26 THANK YOU, LUIS, FOR BRINGING THIS GOOD.
10:38:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
10:38:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:38:33 YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT DEMOCRACY COMES WITH A LOT
10:38:34 OF THINGS.
10:38:36 UNFORTUNATELY ONE OF THEM IS THEY VOLUNTEERED.
10:38:38 THEY WEREN'T DRAFTED.
10:38:41 THESE INDIVIDUALS VOLUNTEERED TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY
10:38:47 AGAIN FROM WHAT HAPPENED 9/11.
10:38:50 AND IT'S A WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN THAT IS VERY HARD TO
10:38:54 UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AFGHANISTAN THING.
10:39:00 HOW CAN YOU LEAVE A COUNTY -- AND THE INVADERS ARE
10:39:01 COMING BACK.
10:39:03 BUT IT IS A WAR THERE.
10:39:07 AND VOLUNTEERS OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO DIED THERE IN
10:39:10 THE FIELDS, GIVING US THE RIGHT TO LIVE THE LIFE THAT
10:39:14 WE LIVE TODAY AND CONTINUE TO LEAD WILL NEVER BE
10:39:15 FORGOTTEN.
10:39:18 NO ONE WANTS TO BE A GOLD STAR MOM.
10:39:21 NO ONE.
10:39:26 AND THE GOOD COLONEL JUST MENTIONED 20 IN HILLSBOROUGH
10:39:29 COUNTY.
10:39:33 IT'S A SAD SITUATION IN LIFE, BUT DEMOCRACY COMES FOR
10:39:34 A PRICE.
10:39:37 THE WORLD THINK THAT LIVE IN, THE WORLD I USED TO LIVE
10:39:41 IN, AND THE WORLD I SEE IN THE FUTURE CHANGES EVERY
10:39:41 DAY.
10:39:43 WE USED TO TAKE A WEEK TO FIND INFORMATION.
10:39:47 NOW YOU FIND IT IN A MILLI SECOND.
10:39:49 WHAT IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND ESPECIALLY
10:39:53 IN OTHER COUNTRIES, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT ANYMORE.
10:39:56 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW NEIGHBORHOODS CAN FIGHT AGAINST
10:39:58 NEIGHBORHOODS FOREVER.
10:40:01 5,000 YEARS.
10:40:07 AND MEN AND WOMEN WHO GIVE THEIR LIFE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
10:40:11 AND IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAN AND IRAQ, IT'S SOMETHING
10:40:15 THAT WE WILL NEVER, EVER FORGET.
10:40:18 I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
10:40:23 LUIS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT
10:40:25 US TO AND SOMETHING WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
10:40:27 THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
10:40:29 YOU MAKE AMERICA BETTER EVERY DAY, THANK YOU.
10:40:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, COUNCIL ALWAYS APPRECIATES
10:40:35 THAT YOU BRING THESE ITEMS TO OUR ATTENTION AND THE
10:40:36 PUBLIC'S ATTENTION.
10:40:39 BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW.
10:40:42 AND WE HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:40:48 AND COLONEL REYES WITH HIS EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE AND
10:40:51 THE COLONEL AND THE GOLD STAR MOM TO COME AND TELL
10:40:55 THEIR STORIES SO PEOPLE SEE WHAT REALLY HAPPENS WITH
10:40:56 FAMILIES.
10:40:58 SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW TO KNOW.
10:41:02 SO I AM GLAD THAT YOU MAKE US KNOWLEDGEABLE AND MAKE
10:41:03 THIS COMMUNITY KNOWLEDGEABLE.
10:41:06 AGAIN WE WILL TAKE UP YOUR RESOLUTION AT THE END OF THE
10:41:09 DAY AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE MAKING PEOPLE
10:41:11 KNOWLEDGEABLE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:41:17 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:41:19 ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, WE WILL GET INTO PUBLIC
10:41:21 COMMENT.
10:41:28 HOW MANY DO WE HAVE WAITING, REGISTERED, MADAM CLERK?
10:41:29 NINE?
10:41:32 HOW MANY DO WE HAVE DOWNSTAIRS?
10:41:33 >>CLERK: 17.
10:41:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: 17?
10:41:39 YOU KNOW, GENTLEMAN, WE HAVE A TOUGH AGENDA TODAY AND I
10:41:41 KNOW PEOPLE WERE UPSET LAST WEEK, A WEEK BEFORE THAT WE
10:41:44 CUT IT DOWN TO TWO MINUTES BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO
10:41:46 GET THROUGH.
10:41:48 I AM GOING TO SEE HOW FAST WE CAN DO THIS.
10:41:53 BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE -- YOU KNOW -- AND I KNOW WE ARE --
10:41:56 THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC AND OUR RULES IT SAYS TWO
10:41:58 MINUTES WHEN OVER 25 --
10:42:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE ARE MORE THAN 15.
10:42:01 AND THOSE RULES WERE TEMPORARY.
10:42:04 THEY HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY BEEN ADOPTED.
10:42:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL TRY GO AND GIVE THREE MINUTES
10:42:09 TODAY, BUT EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT BEING
10:42:12 STERN WITH SOME OF THESE POLICIES BECAUSE WE HAVE A
10:42:15 LONG AGENDA, AND WE GOT TO TRY TO GET THROUGH IT.
10:42:19 BUT I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD THE TWO-MINUTE -- I WILL DO
10:42:21 THE THREE MINUTES AND GET THROUGH IT.
10:42:23 PUBLIC WHO ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
10:42:26 PLEASE GET TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND WE WILL GET THE
10:42:29 NEXT SPEAKER IN TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
10:42:30 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
10:42:34 SIR, YOU ARE FIRST AND SAY YOUR NAME.
10:42:35 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:42:37 MY NAME IS WADE.
10:42:43 I AM KNOWN AS WAHID AND ABAWI.
10:42:46 LIVE 41 YEARS, 21 IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:42:49 AND 21 YEARS IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, VIRGINIA PARK.
10:42:52 FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL
10:42:55 FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN HERE AND
10:42:58 TALK ABOUT AFGHANISTAN WHERE I WAS BORN PERSONALLY.
10:43:02 I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY OWN BACKGROUND SO
10:43:04 YOU KNOW WHO I AM.
10:43:06 I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN TAMPA FOR 21 YEARS.
10:43:08 MY BACKGROUND IN THE FITNESS INDUSTRY.
10:43:11 I WAS RANKED THE TOP TRAINER NATIONAL TRAINING
10:43:15 PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES, CELEBRITIES, AND ALSO SOME OF
10:43:18 THE ARMED FORCE PERSONNEL THAT WENT TO AFGHANISTAN AND
10:43:18 CAME BACK.
10:43:22 SOME OF THEM WITH BLOWN LEGS AND ARMS THAT CAME TO ME.
10:43:27 AND I HELPED THEM TO -- ALL THE WAY AROUND TO MAKE SURE
10:43:29 THAT THEY ARE BACK IN BETTER SHAPE.
10:43:35 ONE OF THEM WAS JUSTIN GARDENER.
10:43:38 THE STATE AND BUILT HIM A HOUSE AND 5,000 PEOPLE SHOWED
10:43:39 UP.
10:43:42 WHEN HE COME BACK FROM AFGHANISTAN, BOTH OF HIS LEGS
10:43:43 WERE GONE.
10:43:46 I ALSO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY PARENTS, MY
10:43:50 FATHER WAS THE HEAD OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE IN
10:43:50 AFGHANISTAN.
10:43:54 HE IS ITS ONE THAT PUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE
10:43:59 TIME OF SHAH AND MY MOTHER BEST FRIEND WITH THE KING
10:44:05 AND QUEEN OF AFGHANISTAN AND PERSONAL SEAMSTRESS OF THE
10:44:07 KING AND QUEEN OF AFGHANISTAN.
10:44:09 MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME
10:44:17 PERSONALLY SUCH AS RELIEF, CARE FLORIDA, MUSLIM
10:44:20 DEMOCRACY FOR FAIRNESS AND SOME OF THE VETERANS THAT
10:44:22 HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME.
10:44:25 AND THEY ALL ARE IN A STANDBY TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY,
10:44:29 OUR PEOPLE THAT IS COME FROM AFGHANISTAN.
10:44:32 BASICALLY I AM JUST HERE TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT I
10:44:36 KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY ARE
10:44:38 ON STANDBY.
10:44:41 THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HELP OUR PEOPLE.
10:44:45 AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE HUGE ORGANIZATIONS AS I
10:44:47 SAID REACHED OUT TO ME PERSONALLY AND ASSURED ME THAT
10:44:50 IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE READY TO GO.
10:44:53 THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE TO ASK THE CITY TO PLEASE HELP
10:44:57 US TO BE ABLE TO HELP MY PEOPLE AND BE ABLE TO HELP ALL
10:45:00 THESE HUGE ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS
10:45:04 GOAL CORRECTLY AND PROPERLY AS WE ARE IN A STANDBY.
10:45:08 THE MAIN THING WE ARE GOING TO NEED FROM THE CITY IS TO
10:45:09 HELP WITH JOB, HOUSING.
10:45:14 I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS LIMITED WHEN IT COMES
10:45:18 INTO FUNDING, BUT THOSE AFGHANS, THEY DO DESERVE --
10:45:21 THEY DIDN'T ONLY FIGHT FOR AFGHANISTAN, BUT THEY
10:45:23 THOUGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF UNITED STATES DOWN HERE
10:45:26 MAKING SURE THAT THEY TRANSLATE CORRECTLY AND PROPERLY
10:45:30 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AMERICAN ARM FORCES ARE NOT IN
10:45:33 MORE HARM -- MORE HARM'S WAY.
10:45:36 SO AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN.
10:45:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:45:38 WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:45:40 >> THANK YOU.
10:45:42 >> SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY --
10:45:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:45:46 YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
10:45:47 >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT.
10:46:03 THANK YOU, SIR.
10:46:05 >> GOOD MORNING.
10:46:10 I AM GHADIR KASSAB, THE DIRECTOR OF RADIANT HANDS.
10:46:13 PART OF THE COALITION WHO PRESENTED A STATEMENT
10:46:16 YESTERDAY IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION GENEROUSLY
10:46:22 INITIATED BY LUIS VIERA.
10:46:26 WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK OF THE STATEMENT AND THANK THE
10:46:28 COUNCILMAN FOR HIS GREAT SUPPORT.
10:46:31 WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY FAMILY HAS THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN
10:46:33 SAFETY AND DIGNITY.
10:46:39 THAT IS WHY WE HAVE REFUGEES AND ASYLUM WITH OPEN
10:46:42 HEARTS AND HELPING HANDS.
10:46:44 TOGETHER WITH THE REFUGEE COMMUNITIES, WE LIFT OUR
10:46:48 VOICES TO ADVOCATE FOR ALL REFUGEES, FOR AFGHANI
10:46:51 REFUGEES AND BETTER POLICIES, BETTER SUPPORT SYSTEM.
10:46:55 WE ARE STANDING IN SOLIDARITY IN HELPING TO KEEP
10:46:59 IMMIGRANTS, REFUGEES AND AFGHANI FAMILIES TOGETHER.
10:47:02 WHETHER THROUGH THE U.S. ASYLUM CENTER OR REFUGEE
10:47:06 RESETTLEMENT PROGRAM HERE AT HOME, WE HELP THE
10:47:10 VULNERABLE BUILD LIVES FREE FROM FEAR.
10:47:14 EVERY DAY WE RECOGNIZE THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF REFUGEES
10:47:17 TO OUR COMMUNITIES BRINGING INNOVATION TO OUR CITY AND
10:47:19 STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITIES THROUGH THEIR
10:47:22 CONTRIBUTION TO OUR PUBLIC LIFE AND CULTURE
10:47:24 INSTITUTIONS.
10:47:27 RADIANT HANDS IS CURRENTLY PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO OVER
10:47:32 900 REFUGEES OUT OF WHICH ONE 25 AFGHANIS IN THE TAMPA
10:47:34 BAY AREA.
10:47:37 OUR TEAM WILL BE READY TO HELP THE NEW FAMILIES BY
10:47:43 OFFERING INTEGRATION, LANGUAGE IN THEIR --
10:47:48 LANGUAGES TO GIVE THEIR LONG-TERM NEED ASSIST IN
10:47:49 EDUCATION AND EMPLOYMENTS.
10:47:53 THIS INITIATIVE WILL ALLOW US ALL TO DIRECTLY IMPACT
10:47:53 LIVES.
10:47:57 THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO BE PILLARS IN OUR CITY,
10:48:01 CITY OF TAMPA, STANDING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND TRY
10:48:04 ORGANIZATION TODAY AS WE TRY TO HELP AFGHANI REFUGEES
10:48:06 TOGETHER WITH OTHER REFUGEES.
10:48:07 THANK YOU.
10:48:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:48:32 >> HELLO, COUNCIL, ANDREW MOORE?
10:48:34 THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY ON THIS ISSUE.
10:48:37 I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU SEVERAL TIMES TALKING OF THE
10:48:41 ENCROACHMENT OF VEHICLES INTO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
10:48:44 ANDREW MOORE.
10:48:47 I HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU SEVERAL TIMES TO DISCUSS
10:48:50 ENCROACHABILITY OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES INTO RESIDENTIAL
10:48:51 DISTRICTS AS SHOWN HERE.
10:48:53 I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE TAKING AN ISSUE UP WITH THE
10:48:58 CITY ATTORNEY TO DEFINE WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF THE
10:48:59 "COMMERCIAL VEHICLE."
10:49:02 I HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THE MEMO FROM THE ATTORNEY.
10:49:04 I PERSONALLY LIKE IT A LOT.
10:49:06 I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL LIKE IT.
10:49:07 I HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE IT.
10:49:11 BUT I ALSO HOPE IT WILL SORT OUT THE ISSUE I HAVE SHOWN
10:49:12 IN THESE PICTURES.
10:49:16 WE CONSTANTLY HAVE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PARKED IN OUR
10:49:17 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:49:19 THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:49:22 AGAIN, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE AGAIN FROM ANOTHER ANGLE.
10:49:25 AND AGAIN THIS IS THAT SAME ENTRANCE WITH OUR SCHOOL
10:49:27 BUS STOP.
10:49:30 WE ALSO HAVE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT PARK AROUND THE
10:49:31 CORNER FROM THERE IN ANOTHER AREA.
10:49:34 THE LOT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THERE, THIS IS A
10:49:35 RESIDENTIAL LOT.
10:49:39 AND WE ARE STILL SEEING IT USED AS A COMMERCIAL PARKING
10:49:39 LOT.
10:49:42 AND WHILE THE -- THE MEMO FROM THE ATTORNEY TODAY AND
10:49:45 THE RECOMMENDATION IS CHANGING WOULD GET RID OF THESE
10:49:50 VANS, WE STILL SEE QUITE A BIT OF -- OF REGULAR CARS
10:49:52 PARKING IN THESE -- IN THESE LOTS.
10:49:55 THESE LOTS ARE BEING USED COMMERCIALLY.
10:49:58 AGAIN, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL LOT.
10:50:00 THIS LOT IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT ONLY ZONED FOR
10:50:01 TWO CARS.
10:50:04 WE SEE THIS ENCROACHMENT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY
10:50:04 DAY.
10:50:08 IT HAPPENS ON ALL SIDES OF IT.
10:50:11 AND THESE PICTURES, THERE ARE HOUSES RIGHT ON EACH SIDE
10:50:15 OF THESE LOTS AND A RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT COMPLEX ON
10:50:16 THIS SIDE RIGHT HERE.
10:50:20 SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON GETTING THE COMMERCIAL STUFF OUT
10:50:22 OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:50:25 AND WHILE THE FIRST STEP TODAY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS
10:50:29 FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT NOT ALLOWING COMMERCIAL
10:50:33 VEHICLES TO PARK IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IS A GOOD ONE
10:50:37 AND IT ALLOWS FOR THE PARK -- FOR THE OPERATOR TO TAKE
10:50:38 THE VEHICLE HOME.
10:50:41 ALLOWS FOR A VEHICLE TO COME ON TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF
10:50:43 THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH A CUSTOMER IN THE
10:50:45 NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN UP
10:50:49 THIS -- THIS CODE AND NOT HAVE THIS ABUSE OF THIS
10:50:52 RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE THEY SAID, HEY, YOU CAN ONLY PARK
10:50:53 TWO VEHICLES COMMERCIALLY HERE.
10:50:56 WE WILL JUST PUT TEN ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:50:57 OH, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL?
10:51:01 WE WILL PUT IN TEN VEHICLES ALONG -- ALONG THE
10:51:01 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:51:03 THERE ARE STILL MAJOR PROBLEMS TO BE WORKED OUT.
10:51:06 I AM VERY PLEASED WITH THE FIRST STEP THOUGH OF GETTING
10:51:09 RID OF THESE COMMERCIAL VANS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
10:51:12 NOT ALLOWING THEM TO ENCROACH UPON IT.
10:51:15 IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS
10:51:17 TREATED LIKE A RESIDENCE.
10:51:20 WE WOULDN'T HAVE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PARKING AT A
10:51:22 COMMERCIALS REINDEPENDENCE.
10:51:25 WE SHOULDN'T SEE THEM IN A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD
10:51:29 UNLESS THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS OR THE OPERATOR OF THE
10:51:30 VEHICLE LIVES THERE.
10:51:32 I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
10:51:32 THANK YOU.
10:52:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:52:03 YOU MAY BEGIN, SIR.
10:52:07 >> VICTOR DIMAYO AND PRESIDENT OF THE BOWMAN HEIGHTS
10:52:09 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I'M HERE WITH ANDREW MOORE
10:52:11 THAT JUST SPOKE ABOUT OUR SITUATION.
10:52:15 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT REAL QUICK TO PICTURES I BROUGHT
10:52:15 WITH ME.
10:52:17 THE PROBLEM WE HAD WITH THIS BUSINESS IN OUR
10:52:19 NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT -- IS THAT THEY HAVE TOTALLY
10:52:23 TRASHED -- FOR FIVE YEARS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO
10:52:24 ENDURE EVERY DAY.
10:52:29 SADLY YOU DON'T SEE -- WHAT -- WHAT, SIDEWALKS ALONG
10:52:31 KATHLEEN STREET.
10:52:34 AND IF THERE WERE SIDEWALKS THERE, WHICH IS THE
10:52:37 RIGHT-OF-WAY, THESE PEOPLE -- THESE VEHICLES WOULD BE
10:52:38 TICKETED.
10:52:45 BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS BUSINESS CONTINUES TO IGNORE --
10:52:48 IGNORE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND JUST USE THE ENTIRE
10:52:50 NEIGHBORHOOD AS THEIR PERSONAL PARKING LOT.
10:52:54 WHAT WE HAVE ASKED YOU TO DO BESIDE TWEAKING THIS
10:52:57 LANGUAGE WE WORKED WITH COUNCIL FOR A YEAR AND A HALF
10:52:59 ON THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE LINE THAT YOU CAN SEE UP
10:53:00 HERE.
10:53:01 THIS IS A LOT.
10:53:03 ALL THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
10:53:06 AND THIS BUSINESS WAS JUST RECENTLY AFFORDED A
10:53:09 REDUCTION IN PARKING -- DON'T ASK ME WHY, FLORIDA 23
10:53:11 SPOTS TO 17.
10:53:12 BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
10:53:16 THEY PARK ALONG OUR GRAND ENTRANCE AND ALONG KATHLEEN.
10:53:19 WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE CITY IS TO PLEASE -- AND WE HAD
10:53:23 SPOKEN TO COUPLE OF COUNCILMEN ABOUT THIS -- IS TO
10:53:27 PLEASE ASK FOR -- IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PICTURE REAL
10:53:28 QUICKLY.
10:53:33 IS TO ASK FOR ALBANY AND KATHLEEN -- JUST THAT ONE
10:53:36 BLOCK, FOR NO PARKING OF RIGHT-OF-WAY SIGNS DURING THE
10:53:37 DAYTIME.
10:53:41 ALL ALONG THE RIVER IN AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NO PARKING
10:53:46 FROM 6 P.M. TO 6LE ON THE RIVERFRONT PARK, BUT IF WE
10:53:49 CAN PLEASE BEG YOU -- WE ARE BEGGING YOU, PLEASE -- IF
10:53:52 WE CAN PLEASE GET THE NO PARKING ON RIGHT-OF-WAY SIGNS
10:53:55 DURING THE DAYTIME IN OUR GRAND ENTRANCE WE WOULD BE
10:53:56 ETERNALLY GRATEFUL.
10:54:00 HOPEFULLY WITH THIS TWEAK IN THE LANGUAGE TODAY THE
10:54:02 COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE
10:54:04 START -- START TO GET TICKETED.
10:54:05 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:54:08 APPRECIATE IT.
10:54:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:54:33 STATE YOUR NAME AND BEGIN SPEAKING.
10:54:39 >> HI, GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS, HIBA RAHIM, I WORK
10:54:42 ON THE COUNCIL OF AMERICAN ISLAMIC RELATIONS IN FLORIDA
10:54:43 AND HERE WITH THE COALITION IN SUPPORT OF THE
10:54:51 RESOLUTION THAT IS BEING PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN LUIS
10:54:55 VIERA OF THE AFGHAN REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT IN FLORIDA.
10:54:57 WE ARE HERE TO WELCOME AND SUPPORT THAT RESOLUTION AS A
10:55:00 COLLATION AND MEMBER OF CARE FLORIDA, WE FINDS THAT
10:55:06 VERY COMPASSIONATE AND GENEROSITY AND RESPONSIBILITY
10:55:09 THAT AMERICANS REFLECT IN THE UNITED STATES AND ALSO
10:55:10 HERE IN TAMPA BAY.
10:55:12 WE WANT TO REMIND YOU TO PLEASE LOOK AT THE STATEMENT
10:55:15 THAT THE COALITION SENT THAT HAS SOME SUGGESTIONS BASE
10:55:18 $ON OUR EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA IN TERMS OF HOW TO
10:55:22 BETTER PROVIDE FOR THE REFUGEE POPULATION AS THEY COME
10:55:23 TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
10:55:25 FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THAT YOU THE COALITION
10:55:29 HAS NUMEROUS MEMBERS, SOME OF WHOM WERE MENTIONED TO
10:55:35 YOU EARLIER TODAY, MDF, CARE FLORIDA, RADIANT HANDS,
10:55:38 RELIEF IN TAMPA ALL OF WHICH IS TO ASSIST THE REFUGEE
10:55:42 POPULATION AND URGE YOU TO UTILIZE OUR SERVICES FROM
10:55:46 IMMIGRATION TO REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT TO OFFER SUPPORT IN
10:55:49 WHATEVER WAY POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN HELP THESE
10:55:54 INDIVIDUALS RESETTLE IN A SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE AND
10:55:56 STRATEGIC WAY SO THAT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF
10:55:57 IMMIGRATION.
10:56:00 THAT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF MEDICARE, MEDICAID.
10:56:05 ANY TYPE OF ASSISTANCE, RESETTLEMENT, IN GENERAL.
10:56:06 CHARITY.
10:56:08 THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE PROFESSIONAL ALLEGATION THAT
10:56:10 ARE READY AND EQUIPPED AND WE STAND IN SUPPORT AND
10:56:14 SOLIDARITY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP THIS BECOME
10:56:15 AN EASY TRANSITION.
10:56:17 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:56:20 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE.
10:56:20 THANK YOU.
10:56:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
10:56:39 >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
10:56:42 AFTER WAITING FOR, YOU KNOW, A VERY LONG TIME THIS
10:56:46 MORNING, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE HIGHLY OFFENSIVE FOR
10:56:50 ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE FOR PEOPLE'S TIME TO BE
10:56:53 REDUCED TO TWO MINUTES SINCE WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID TO
10:56:54 COME DOWN HERE.
10:56:56 WE ARE PAYING FOR PARKING TO BE HERE.
10:56:58 ON YOUR SIDE OF THE AISLE YOU ARE BEING PAID BECAUSE IT
10:57:02 IS YOUR JOB.
10:57:07 NONETHELESS, I WANT TO RISE TO SUPPORT FOR ITEM NUMBER
10:57:07 44.
10:57:14 I THINK THE TERM OF INVESTIGATING THE NAACP CANDIDATE
10:57:19 WAS VERY HIGHLY OFFENSIVE, BECAUSE IF YOU HAD DONE ANY
10:57:24 REAL INVESTIGATING, WOULD YOU SEE MR. IRVIN, TOO, IS A
10:57:28 MILITARY VETERAN THAT HAS DONE EXTENSIVE WORK NOT ONLY
10:57:31 SERVING HIS COUNTRY BUT HAS DONE EXTENSIVE WORK IN THIS
10:57:32 COMMUNITY.
10:57:35 THE INVESTIGATION WAS BASED OFF OF WHAT?
10:57:40 IT IS SUCH A DEROGATORY TERM TO USE IN THE CLIMATE OF
10:57:43 WHICH WE ARE LIVING WHERE AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE IS
10:57:45 UNDER CONSTANT ASSAULT.
10:57:48 I FOUND THAT TO BE HIGHLY OFFENSIVE.
10:57:51 MORE THAN JUST A SIMPLE APOLOGY NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:57:54 AS TO ITEM 105.
10:57:56 PEOPLE CAN'T NEVER TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WAR.
10:57:57 HOW WE GET THERE.
10:57:58 THE COST OF WAR.
10:58:02 THE RESOLUTION, OF COURSE, I WOULD NEVER PUT MYSELF IN
10:58:07 DIRECT CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO ENHANCE
10:58:10 PEOPLE LIFE AND DIGNITY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, IN
10:58:15 EAST TAMPA WHERE WE ARE HAVING EXTREME CASUALTIES OF
10:58:18 LIFE, WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE GONE AND PEOPLE ARE STILL
10:58:20 TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, WE WOULD APPRECIATE A
10:58:24 RESOLUTION OF HOW DO COMMON EVERYDAY PEOPLE IN THIS
10:58:28 CITY IN THAT COMMUNITY RISE ABOVE THE ISSUE OF POVERTY.
10:58:32 HOW DO PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY RISE ABOVE THE ISSUES
10:58:35 OF HOMELESSNESS, EMPLOYMENT.
10:58:39 THE MENTAL COUNSELING AND HAVE THE FULL SUPPORT OF THIS
10:58:41 COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF THE CAMERAS.
10:58:44 EVERY WEEK WE COME DOWN HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE SAME
10:58:46 THING, AND YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
10:58:48 YES, IT ALL LOOKS PRETTY.
10:58:50 ALL THE BEAUTIFUL SHINY OBJECTS YOU WANT TO DO.
10:58:52 THE PLANTS.
10:58:56 THE STATUES YOU WANT TO PUT IN THE ROUNDABOUTS BUT
10:58:59 NOTHING HAS TRANSFORMED THAT COMMUNITY TO HELP PEOPLE,
10:59:02 AND YOUNG PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR HAVE A DIGNITY IN LIFE
10:59:05 THAT WILL REMOVE HOPELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:59:06 YOU ALL KNOW IT.
10:59:11 BUT IT IS THE SMUGNESS AND ARROGANCE OF THAT BOARD THAT
10:59:17 REFUSES TO DO ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THE BLACK PEOPLE IN
10:59:18 THIS CITY.
10:59:20 SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER SOMETIMES.
10:59:31 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:59:34 MY NAME IS EARNEST JOHNSON.
10:59:36 I LIVE AT 2119 EAST NEDRO ROAD.
10:59:39 AND I OWN PROPERTY IN SEVERAL AREAS IN EAST TAMPA.
10:59:44 AS I NOTICED THAT THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR POLICE STATION
10:59:49 IS COMING TO EAST TAMPA, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WITHOUT POLICE
10:59:52 OFFICERS, WE JUST CAN'T MAKE IT.
10:59:54 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:59:55 I UNDERSTAND THEY NEED MORE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABILITY.
11:00:00 I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:00:00 AND THE GENTRIFICATION OF THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD THEY WANT TO
11:00:07 PUT THE POLICE STATION IN IS SHAMEFUL.
11:00:09 I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HOUSING AND STUFF LIKE
11:00:11 THAT, BUT MY PEOPLE DO, NOT JUST POOR BLACKS, POOR WHITES.
11:00:17 I SEE NO MOVEMENT FROM THE COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE
11:00:21 COUNTY COUNCIL.
11:00:22 AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS HOUSING.
11:00:25 AROUND THE SAME HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS POLICE STATION YOU
11:00:28 WANT TO BUILD, WE NEED THAT.
11:00:30 I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:00:30 BUT WE ALSO NEED HOUSING.
11:00:32 WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN THIS GENTRIFICATION OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE
11:00:35 VESTED INTEREST IN THEIR COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WHO INVESTED IN
11:00:39 THAT.
11:00:39 THEY GOT MARRIED IN THAT COMMUNITY.
11:00:41 THEY RAISE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:00:42 THEY PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
11:00:44 THEY PAY FOR THE DICHOTOMY OF WHAT THAT COMMUNITY IS.
11:00:49 MOVED OUT IN HOUSES THAT THEY ARE BUILDING THERE, THREE AND
11:00:52 FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT THEY NEVER WILL BE ABLE
11:00:55 TO AFFORD.
11:00:56 AND WE HAVE YOUNG COUPLES MARRIED IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:00:58 THOSE PEOPLE GRANDCHILDREN ARE BEING MARRIED IN THAT
11:01:01 NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY ARE BUILDING HOUSES THAT OUR PEOPLE
11:01:04 CAN'T AFFORD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:01:05 IT'S VERY SHAMEFUL.
11:01:07 I HOPE THE COUNCIL START TO LOOK AT IT WHEN THEY START
11:01:10 LOOKING AT THE NEW BUILDING AND STUFF FROM TAMPA PARK TO
11:01:13 CHANNELSIDE, THE 25 MILLION OF THIS, 30 MILLION FOR THAT, 11
11:01:18 MILLION FOR THAT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY OF
11:01:20 EAST TAMPA.
11:01:22 I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I OWN PROPERTY IN EAST
11:01:24 TAMPA AND I WANT TO DO BETTER WITH BUSINESS THINGS IN THE
11:01:28 COMMUNITY, BUT WE NEED THE HELP OF THE COUNCIL.
11:01:30 THANK YOU.
11:01:30 APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU.
11:01:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:01:32 MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU CONTACT MS. CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
11:01:48 ABOUT THAT STATEMENT, SIR?
11:01:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:01:52 I JUST DID CONFIRM FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC AWARENESS
11:01:56 IS THAT WITH REGARD TO ANY MEMBER AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE
11:02:01 POLICE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, THEY ALL ARE REQUIRED, PER THE
11:02:06 ORDINANCE, TO GO THROUGH A BACKGROUND CHECK.
11:02:08 THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A MEMBER FOR ALL
11:02:12 MEMBERS.
11:02:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:02:14 YOU MAY CONTINUE, SIR.
11:02:17 STATE YOUR NAME.
11:02:21 >> CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD MORNING.
11:02:23 PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO YOU ALL.
11:02:24 MY NAME IS JAWAD FAYIZ, AND I AM A LOCAL REAL ESTATE
11:02:28 PROFESSIONAL AND A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN TAMPA.
11:02:30 I'M ALSO A CHILD OF AFGHAN AMERICAN REFUGEES.
11:02:35 I WAS BORN HERE AND RAISED HERE IN TAMPA, AND I'M A PROUD
11:02:39 ALUMNUS OF THE USF UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
11:02:42 I'VE COME BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THE
11:02:46 PROPOSAL BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCILMAN VIERA TO WELCOME
11:02:49 AFGHAN REFUGEES INTO OUR DIVERSE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
11:02:52 MY FATHER DILIGENTLY SERVED THE AMERICAN EMBASSY AS A HEALTH
11:02:58 CARE WORKER FOR OVER A DECADE IN AFGHANISTAN.
11:03:00 WHEN IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE SOVIET INVASION OF HIS COUNTRY
11:03:04 WOULD NOT ALLOW HIM AND HIS FAMILY TO LEAVE PEACEFULLY, HE
11:03:09 WAS FORCED TO LEAVE HIS HOMELAND AND EVENTUALLY RESETTLED IN
11:03:13 THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF TAMPA IN 1985.
11:03:16 AT THAT TIME, WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST AND ONLY AFGHAN
11:03:19 REFUGEE FAMILIES IN THE ENTIRE TAMPA BAY AREA WHEN THERE
11:03:22 WERE VERY FEW RESOURCES FOR NEWCOMERS LIKE MY FAMILY.
11:03:25 BUT WE WERE MET WITH MUCH LOVE AND SUPPORT.
11:03:28 I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A TESTAMENT, AS A TESTAMENT
11:03:33 TO THE FACT THAT WHEN GIVEN A CHANCE TO PROSPER, AFGHAN
11:03:37 AMERICANS HAVE EXCELLED AND CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR LOCAL
11:03:42 COMMUNITIES IN ALL SECTORS INCLUDING HEALTH, BUSINESS,
11:03:46 EDUCATION, AND COUNTLESS MORE.
11:03:47 OUR CITY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF BEING A WELCOMING COMMUNITY
11:03:52 FOR REFUGEES FROM ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD.
11:03:55 MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT LEGACY AND BE A SHINING
11:03:58 BEACON OF HOPE AND PROSPERITY FOR THOSE SEEKING A BETTER
11:04:02 LIFE IN OUR GREAT CITY OF TAMPA.
11:04:05 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:06 HAVE A GREAT DAY.
11:04:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:04:07 STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU CAN BEGIN SPEAKING.
11:04:34 >> MY NAME IS ELIZABETH DEAMBROSE.
11:04:38 I LIVE IN SKYPOINT IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
11:04:42 I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 81 ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING,
11:04:55 AND YOU --
11:04:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
11:04:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
11:05:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
11:05:02 ITEM NUMBER 81 IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'M GOING TO ASK
11:05:05 THOSE WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE MATTERS RELATED TO PUBLIC
11:05:08 HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA TO PLEASE HOLD YOUR COMMENTS SO WE
11:05:12 CAN TAKE THEM DURING THE TIME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:05:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT HE'S SAYING, MA'AM, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN
11:05:19 PUBLIC HEARINGS YET.
11:05:20 WE'RE JUST DOING PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:05:22 WHEN YOUR ITEM 81 COMES UP, YOU CAN SPEAK ON THAT SUBJECT
11:05:25 MATTER.
11:05:25 >> OH, OKAY.
11:05:26 THEY TOLD ME TO COME SPEAK NOW.
11:05:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S OKAY.
11:05:28 WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
11:05:30 AGAIN, IF ANYONE IS SPEAKING ON ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS WHO ARE
11:05:33 IN THE AUDIENCE OR ON THE LINE, WHEN WE TAKE UP THAT ITEM
11:05:38 NUMBER, YOU CAN SPEAK ON THAT ITEM NUMBER.
11:05:40 JUST GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS BEING TAKEN AT THIS TIME.
11:05:43 >> THANK YOU.
11:05:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:05:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE WELCOME.
11:06:02 >> GOOD MORNING, DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:06:04 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPASSION, YOUR GENEROSITY IN HEARING
11:06:09 THIS IMPORTANT HUMANITARIAN ISSUE OF POSSIBLY --
11:06:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:06:13 >> -- AFGHAN REFUGEES.
11:06:15 MY NAME IS NEK NAZARY.
11:06:17 I AM AN AFGHAN AFRICAN AMERICAN.
11:06:19 I HAVE BEEN SERVING AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN IN THE
11:06:22 TAMPA BAY AREA OVER EIGHT YEARS.
11:06:24 MY RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE DIRECT PATIENT CARE AND TEACHING
11:06:29 RESIDENT PHYSICIANS.
11:06:30 I FLED AFGHANISTAN AS A REFUGEE 21 YEARS AGO AFTER SPENDING
11:06:35 ABOUT TEN YEARS IN THE CARIBBEAN AND THE UK, I EVENTUALLY
11:06:39 SETTLED IN THE U.S. IN 2009.
11:06:41 I KNOW ALL TOO WELL THE INJUSTICES COMMITTED BY THE BRUTAL
11:06:46 TALIBAN REGIME TOWARDS ANYONE WHO DID NOT SHARE THEIR
11:06:50 FANATIC BELIEFS BECAUSE I LIVED THROUGH IT IN THE 1990s.
11:06:55 I AM A WITNESS TO THEIR TERROR AND DESPICABLE ATROCITIES
11:07:01 THEY HAVE BEEN COMMITTING.
11:07:03 THE REAL FEAR OF BEING TARGETED AND KILLED BECAUSE OF MY
11:07:06 ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND LED ME TO SEEK REFUGE
11:07:10 ELSEWHERE.
11:07:10 ALTHOUGH MY PRIMARY GOAL WAS TO SAVE MY LIFE, BUT ONCE I
11:07:14 REACHED SAFETY, I WORKED EXTREMELY HARD THROUGH ENORMOUS
11:07:18 CHALLENGES TO BECOME A DOCTOR.
11:07:20 IN GENERAL, AFGHANS ARE GRATEFUL, HARDWORKING PEOPLE WITH
11:07:25 GREAT SENSE OF BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT.
11:07:27 WE DO NOT TAKE THINGS FOR GRANTED.
11:07:29 WE BELIEVE IN GIVING BACK MANY TIMES MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE
11:07:33 GIVEN.
11:07:33 WELCOMING AFGHAN REFUGEES INTO OUR COMMUNITY WILL NOT ONLY
11:07:37 SERVE TO ENRICH THE LOCAL CULTURAL DIVERSITY THAT WE HAVE
11:07:42 ALL COME TO CHERISH BUT WILL HELP IN BUILDING UP OUR LOCAL
11:07:46 ECONOMY AS AFGHANS ARE WELL KNOWN FOR THEIR ENTREPRENEURIAL
11:07:50 SKILLS WHEREVER THEY HAVE SETTLED.
11:07:52 THE LAST TWO WEEKS HAVE BROUGHT ME MUCH GRIEF AND PAIN
11:07:56 WATCHING MY ANCESTRAL LAND FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE
11:07:59 TALIBAN ONCE AGAIN HAS BEEN HEART-WRENCHING.
11:08:02 BUT THE PASSAGE OF THIS RESOLUTION WOULD MEAN A GREAT DEAL
11:08:05 FOR MY COMMUNITY.
11:08:06 I REQUEST ALL RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL TO PASS THIS
11:08:10 RESOLUTION AND WORK TOWARDS EFFICIENT RESOURCES TOWARDS
11:08:16 RESETTLEMENT AND EMPOWERMENT OF THE NEW ARRIVALS.
11:08:18 AS I BATTLE TO SAVE LIVES ON A DAILY BASIS DURING THIS
11:08:21 RUTHLESS COVID-19 PANDEMIC, THE PART OF NEW GENERATION OF
11:08:25 AFGHAN AMERICANS BEING GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASPIRE TO
11:08:28 GREAT HEIGHTS AND ONE DAY BECOME PRODUCTIVE CONTRIBUTING
11:08:33 MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY AND FEEL AS WELCOME AS I HAVE IN OUR
11:08:36 LOCAL COMMUNITY IS WHAT GIVES ME HOPE AND COURAGE TO KEEP
11:08:40 GOING.
11:08:41 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:08:43 THANK YOU.
11:08:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:08:50 STATE YOUR NAME, MA'AM.
11:09:20 >> CHAIR, WE HAVE NO MORE PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THE SECOND
11:09:23 FLOOR.
11:09:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP DOWN THERE
11:09:26 MS. EDWARDS.
11:09:27 MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE REGISTERED?
11:09:30 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY FOUR OF FIVE THAT ARE
11:09:33 ONLINE RIGHT NOW.
11:09:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:09:35 LET'S HEAR THEM.
11:09:37 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
11:09:38 THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:09:43 STEPHANIE, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF
11:09:46 AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:09:47 >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
11:09:48 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS 100 AND 101, BUT I NEED TO SAY
11:09:53 THAT 58 AND 59, WHICH ARE SOG FOLKS, 100% SUPPORT.
11:10:00 THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR A COUPLE OF
11:10:03 YEARS NOW, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT GRANT COME THROUGH
11:10:05 SO THEY CAN STUDY SOME PLANNING FOR US.
11:10:10 100 AND 101 KIND OF BLEND TOGETHER.
11:10:12 THEY ARE ABOUT THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS,
11:10:17 WHICH WE LAY FOLKS CALL PITAS.
11:10:20 SO YOUR PITA IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT PITAS.
11:10:24 THESE PITAS ARE COMING FROM -- THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM
11:10:29 PRIVATE CITIZENS.
11:10:30 THEY ARE COMING FROM FOLKS WHO ARE PAID TO FURTHER THE BEST
11:10:32 INTEREST OF THEIR CLIENT WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE CITIZENS OF
11:10:35 OUR CITY.
11:10:37 I HAVE SEEN PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EIGHT PITAS IN THE LAST FEW
11:10:40 MONTHS.
11:10:41 I'VE ONLY SEEN ONE THAT SEEMED TO BE EASY TO READ, WELL
11:10:44 PREPARED WITH ILLUSTRATIONS AND IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE
11:10:48 CITY AND ITS CITIZENS.
11:10:50 THANK YOU, RICKY FIORICA -- HOPE I DIDN'T SLAUGHTER THAT TOO
11:10:56 BADLY -- FOR A SIMPLE, LOGICAL PLAN THAT ANYBODY CAN
11:10:59 UNDERSTAND.
11:11:00 GREAT WORK.
11:11:00 SO SOME FROM MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM PRESENTED TODAY ARE
11:11:06 ACTUALLY IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION WITH TODAY'S ITEM 95 WHICH
11:11:10 HAS BEEN CONTINUED UNTIL OCTOBER THE 28.
11:11:13 WHY ARE WE EVEN CONSIDERING IT?
11:11:16 MR. MICHELINI AND MR. LUM STATE THAT THEY WORKED ON THE PITA
11:11:20 FOR FIVE YEARS TO HELP CITY STAFF, SOME FORMER AND SOME
11:11:24 CURRENT STAFF.
11:11:25 I WOULD THINK IF IT REALLY NEEDED TO BE DONE, STAFF WAS MORE
11:11:28 THAN CAPABLE OF GETTING THE JOB DONE.
11:11:30 STAFF MONITORED IN MEETING WITH THESE GENTLEMEN AND THAN
11:11:33 MONITORED A SECOND MEETING.
11:11:36 MY PERSONAL OPINION ON THIS MATTER HAS NOT CHANGED.
11:11:39 ONLY STAFF SHOULD BE MAKING CHANGES TO CITY CODE.
11:11:41 CITY STAFF ARE THE EXPERTS WHO ARE OBLIGATED, AND FROM I'VE
11:11:47 SEEN THEY DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY.
11:11:49 AND IN THE INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS.
11:11:52 I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE PITAS SUBMITTED IN
11:11:56 THIS CYCLE IS 60 PAGES LONG OF TECHNICAL JARGON.
11:12:00 NOBODY HAS TIME TO READ ALL THAT, BUT I DID.
11:12:02 ON PAGE 7 OF THAT 60-PAGE DOCUMENT, THE APPLICANT REVEALED
11:12:10 THAT THEY WANTED TO IMPACT THE ENTIRE CITY WITH SOME OF
11:12:13 THESE CHANGES.
11:12:14 SEVEN PAGES IN.
11:12:15 NOT ON THE FIRST PAGE OR THE SECOND PAGE.
11:12:17 WELL, AND IT ALSO SAID IN THAT DOCUMENT THAT THEY HAD
11:12:22 REACHED OUT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:12:23 WELL, GUESS WHAT, I NEVER TALKED TO THEM NOR HAD ANYBODY
11:12:26 THAT I TALKED TO TALKED TO THEM.
11:12:28 I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY TALKED TO, BUT IT WASN'T THE
11:12:31 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOLKS THAT I KNOW.
11:12:32 BOTTOM LINE IS, SUPPORT 58, 59.
11:12:36 GET RID OF THE PITA FOREVER AND EVER AMEN, AND LET YOUR
11:12:40 STAFF DO WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPERTS.
11:12:44 AND I ALMOST FORGOT, MICROMOBILITY.
11:12:47 I'M FOR IT.
11:12:48 NUMBER 60.
11:12:49 ITEM NUMBER 60.
11:12:50 LAST BUT NOT LEAST --
11:12:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
11:12:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:12:56 >> THANK YOU.
11:12:59 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE KENTON
11:13:01 BRADFORD.
11:13:02 KENTON, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND
11:13:07 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:13:09 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
11:13:11 AS STATED MY NAME IS KENTON BRADFORD.
11:13:14 I LIVE IN THE TOWERS, WHAT USED TO BE KNOWN AS THE TOWERS OF
11:13:18 CHANNELSIDE, AND I'M SPEAKING IN REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 98,
11:13:22 WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE SOUND OR NOISE ORDINANCE, ONE OF THE
11:13:27 TWO.
11:13:28 ORIGINALLY, WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US, THE RESIDENTS
11:13:32 HERE, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD BE RULING ON
11:13:35 WHETHER OR NOT CHANNELSIDE WRIT LARGE WOULD BE DESIGNATED AS
11:13:42 A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT,
11:13:48 WHICH IS WHAT I GUESS IT IS NOW.
11:13:49 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M IN FULL FAVOR OF THAT.
11:13:53 I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU TWICE IN THE LAST SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS
11:13:57 REGARDING THE NOISE EMANATING FROM PARK AND REC DIRECTLY
11:14:01 BELOW ME.
11:14:02 BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE NOW WITH ALL THE NEW APARTMENT
11:14:07 BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING IN AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE
11:14:09 COMING IN THAT WE ARE TURNING INTO MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL OR
11:14:16 HOUSEHOLD ORIENTED COMMUNITY AND THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH
11:14:23 REGARD TO SPARKMAN WHARF DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US
11:14:30 THEY SHUT DOWN AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME AT NIGHT AS OPPOSED TO
11:14:33 THE ESTABLISHMENT BELOW ME, PARK AND REC.
11:14:36 I'M IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO DO TO
11:14:39 TURN THIS INTO A RESIDENTIAL CODING OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU
11:14:42 CALL IT, APPARENT ENTERTAINMENT CODING IT IS CURRENTLY
11:14:49 UNDER.
11:14:49 AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
11:14:51 THANK YOU.
11:14:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:14:55 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JEAN
11:14:57 STROHMEYER.
11:14:59 JEAN, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU
11:15:02 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:15:12 >> HELLO?
11:15:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MA'AM.
11:15:15 >> HI.
11:15:15 MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER.
11:15:18 I STARTED THE INTERBAY SOUTH OF GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION SO
11:15:21 THAT WE THE PEOPLE DOWN HERE HAD SOMEONE TO TALK TO AND
11:15:26 VOICE THEIR CONCERNS TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ON TAMPA CITY
11:15:31 COUNCIL.
11:15:32 WE ARE YOUR AVERAGE WORKING PEOPLE.
11:15:38 GENTRIFICATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:15:39 EVEN THOUGH WE ARE SOUTH OF TAMPA, WE ARE NOT, QUOTE, SOUTH
11:15:43 TAMPA.
11:15:43 WE ARE SOG.
11:15:44 THOSE NORTH OF GANDY WERE NOT ALLOWED ON OUR SIDE OF THE
11:15:51 ROAD BACK IN THE DAY.
11:15:53 I RECENTLY LEARNED THAT OUR CITY STAFF HAS RELATIONSHIPS
11:15:56 WITH CERTAIN BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE BASICALLY
11:16:00 TASKED TO CHANGE OUR LAWS USING PITAS, PRIVATE INITIATED
11:16:03 TEXT AMENDMENTS.
11:16:04 THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS.
11:16:06 BUT WE HAVE JUST COME TO REALIZE THAT THESE CHANGES
11:16:09 ULTIMATELY BENEFITED THE BUILDER, NOT US, THROUGH THE LAND
11:16:13 USE AND ZONING CHANGES.
11:16:16 AND BECAUSE THEY WERE SO SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR CHANGES, WE,
11:16:18 THE PEOPLE, ALONG WITH UNANIMOUS VOTES OF CITY COUNCIL, WERE
11:16:22 UNABLE TO STOP THEM FROM CHANGING THE VERY ESSENCE OF OUR
11:16:26 NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:16:26 IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, I HAVE LEARNED A VERY HARD AND SAD
11:16:31 LESSON IN THAT THE REGULAR CITIZENS OF TAMPA, OUR VOICES DO
11:16:35 NOT MATTER TO THIS CITY.
11:16:38 WHAT WE WANT OR DO NOT WANT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS
11:16:42 PREEMPTED BY WHAT THE CITY WANTS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:16:47 ALL OF MY COMMENTS ON THIS AGENDA HAVE BEEN SENT TO YOU IN
11:16:51 WRITING.
11:16:52 I WILL REMAIN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT AS FAR AS
11:16:55 THE REST OF THE CITY, I WILL FIGHT ON MY KNEES IN PRAYER TO
11:16:59 THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WHO HAS COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THIS
11:17:03 CITY AND ONLY ALLOW WHAT HE WILL ALLOW.
11:17:07 IN THE NAME OF JESUS, YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.
11:17:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:17:13 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE PARIS GIRGINIS.
11:17:22 PARIS, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU
11:17:25 HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:17:27 >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
11:17:29 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:17:31 I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY NEIGHBOR WHO SPOKE
11:17:36 A FEW MINUTES AGO, MR. KENTON BRADFORD, ABOUT THE NOISE IN
11:17:41 THE PART OF TAMPA CHANNELSIDE.
11:17:43 AND I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF
11:17:46 IMPLEMENTING THE FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED BY THE STAFF
11:17:50 AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REGARDING CHAPTER 14 IN THE CITY OF
11:17:53 TAMPA ORDINANCE.
11:17:55 WE, THE RESIDENTS OF CHANNELSIDE, DESERVE SOME RELIEF FROM
11:17:58 THE CONSTANT NOISE THAT'S AROUND US THAT HAS INCREASED
11:18:04 TREMENDOUSLY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:18:09 MR. KENTON IN PARTICULAR, PARK AND REC AT THE FLOOR GROUND
11:18:13 LEVEL OF OUR BUILDING.
11:18:16 ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS,
11:18:19 THE NOISE POLLUTION, WE WOULD BE FOREVER GRATEFUL TO YOU.
11:18:23 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:18:25 THANK YOU.
11:18:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:18:33 >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER REGISTERED TO SPEAK, HOWEVER
11:18:36 THEY DID NOT LOG IN TO PARTICIPATE, AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE
11:18:40 GAMAL GAITHER.
11:18:41 ALSO, SHAWN BROWN REGISTERED TO SPEAK BUT DID NOT LOG IN TO
11:18:46 PARTICIPATE.
11:18:46 AND THAT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
11:18:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
11:18:52 OKAY, GENTLEMEN.
11:18:56 IT'S 11:20.
11:18:59 WE'LL TRY TO GET THIS PLANE MOVING REAL QUICK AND UP IN THE
11:19:03 AIR.
11:19:04 CONSENT ITEMS, MOVE ITEM NUMBER 7, PLEASE.
11:19:07 5 AND 6 HAVE BEEN PULLED.
11:19:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:19:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:19:13 I WILL MOVE ITEM 7.
11:19:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED IT.
11:19:16 MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED IT.
11:19:18 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:19:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:19:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:19:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:19:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:19:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:19:25 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:19:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:19:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:19:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, MOVE ITEMS 8 THROUGH 15.
11:19:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:19:34 I MOVE ITEMS 8-15.
11:19:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MANISCALCO MOVES IT.
11:19:39 DINGFELDER SECONDED.
11:19:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:19:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:19:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:19:44 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:19:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:19:45 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:19:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:19:47 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:19:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, MOVE ITEMS 16 THROUGH 36,
11:19:53 PLEASE, SIR.
11:19:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE ITEMS 16 THROUGH 36.
11:19:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:19:59 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:20:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:20:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:20:02 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:20:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:20:05 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:20:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:20:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:20:08 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:20:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, MOVE ITEMS 37, EXCLUDING 44,
11:20:14 WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED, TO 46, PLEASE, SIR.
11:20:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVE 37 THROUGH 46 WITHHOLDING 44.
11:20:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.
11:20:22 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:20:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:20:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:20:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:20:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:20:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:20:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:20:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:20:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:20:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, MOVE 47 THROUGH 61, SIR.
11:20:37 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
11:20:38 MOVE 47 THROUGH 61.
11:20:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA HAS SECONDED IT.
11:20:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:20:43 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:20:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:20:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:20:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:20:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:20:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:20:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:20:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:20:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, CAN YOU MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 62
11:20:56 THROUGH 66, EXCLUDING 63 WHICH WAS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
11:21:00 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:21:01 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:21:03 MOVE 62 AND 64 THROUGH 66.
11:21:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:21:10 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:21:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:21:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:21:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:21:14 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:21:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:21:15 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:21:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE OPEN THE
11:21:21 PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLEASE?
11:21:22 >> SO MOVED.
11:21:23 >> SECOND.
11:21:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO -- MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
11:21:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:21:30 DOES THIS MOTION OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS INCLUDING THE
11:21:32 10:30s?
11:21:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
11:21:34 MR. CITRO, REPEAT IT PLEASE, SIR.
11:21:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:21:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:21:41 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
11:21:43 MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
11:21:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL
11:21:46 CONSIDER AT THIS TIME ITEM NUMBER 86 FOR THE PURPOSES, NOW
11:21:50 HAVING IT BEEN OPENED, TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM PER THE REQUEST
11:21:55 OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND MEMORANDUM TO A CONTINUANCE
11:22:01 TODAY TO 6 P.M.
11:22:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO 6 P.M. ITEM 86.
11:22:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND ON ITEM 86 TO 6 P.M. TODAY.
11:22:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED IT.
11:22:11 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:22:12 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:22:12 ANY OPPOSED?
11:22:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING --
11:22:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, IF I CAN.
11:22:17 I'M SORRY.
11:22:18 I JUST WANT TO FINISH UP ON ITEM NUMBER 86.
11:22:21 FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE REGISTERED PRESENTLY, AND THOSE
11:22:24 PEOPLE WHO PLAN TO SPEAK, ITEM NUMBER 86 WILL BE HEARD AT
11:22:29 6 P.M.
11:22:30 THERE WILL BE NO OTHER NOTICE OF THAT.
11:22:31 SO, PLEASE, IF YOU'RE REGISTERED, BE SURE TO LOG ON.
11:22:34 IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO SPEAK TO BE HERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR
11:22:37 AT 6 P.M.
11:22:40 COUNCIL AND PUBLIC, IF THIS MEETING OR WHEN THIS MEETING
11:22:44 DOES CONCLUDE ITS BUSINESS IN THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON
11:22:48 TODAY, THERE WILL BE A RECESS TAKEN FOR COUNCIL TO RECONVENE
11:22:52 SPECIFICALLY FOR NUMBER 86 AT 6 P.M.
11:22:54 THANK YOU.
11:22:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:22:57 DO WE GET TO VOTE ON THAT?
11:22:59 MR. SHELBY, GENTLEMEN, WE DO HAVE ON THE STAFF REPORTS THIS
11:23:05 AFTERNOON, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, IF I GET THAT MOVED TO
11:23:11 CONSENT AT THIS POINT, WE CAN SHIFT THAT AND BE DONE WITH
11:23:14 THAT.
11:23:15 MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED IT.
11:23:17 MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED IT.
11:23:18 ROLL CALL VOTE ON 89, 90, 91, 92, AND 93.
11:23:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:23:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:23:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:23:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:23:27 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:23:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:23:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:23:31 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:23:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:23:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WISH, IF THERE'S NO
11:23:37 FURTHER DISCUSSION, YOU CAN MOVE ITEM NUMBER 44, UNLESS
11:23:40 COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE IT PULLED FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION,
11:23:43 BUT YOU DID HEAR FROM THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER.
11:23:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:23:46 WE CAN MOVE THAT.
11:23:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 44 UNDER MY COMMITTEE.
11:23:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED IT.
11:23:51 DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
11:23:53 ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE PLEASE.
11:23:57 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:23:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:23:59 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:24:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:24:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:24:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:24:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:24:05 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:24:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:24:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:24:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS 67
11:24:13 THROUGH 72.
11:24:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
11:24:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:24:19 ANY OPPOSED?
11:24:19 WE ARE NOW OPEN.
11:24:21 ITEM 67.
11:24:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE JUST SCHEDULED ALL THOSE.
11:24:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 73.
11:24:38 >> SECOND READINGS.
11:24:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL GO TO VIERA.
11:24:51 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:24:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND READING FOR 73.
11:25:00 >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
11:25:01 ARE YOU ASKING ME TO --
11:25:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THAT --
11:25:06 >>LUIS VIERA: DON'T THEY HAVE TO FIRST DO THE PRESENTATION?
11:25:10 OKAY.
11:25:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS STAFF PRESENT.
11:25:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS STAFF PRESENT FOR 73?
11:25:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, I BELIEVE.
11:25:20 IS THAT CORRECT?
11:25:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T HEAR.
11:25:22 VOLUME.
11:25:23 CAN'T HEAR HIM.
11:25:27 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:25:29 THIS IS RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:25:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU.
11:25:32 >>RON WIGGINTON: GREAT.
11:25:33 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:25:34 ITEM NUMBER 73 IS AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AMENDING
11:25:37 ORDINANCE 2000-331 WHICH CONTAINS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE
11:25:44 LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF EXHIBIT A.
11:25:46 SECTION ONE OF THE ORDINANCE ACCURATELY SETS UP THE
11:25:50 BOUNDARIES OF THE VACATED -- EASTERLY BOUNDARY LINE OF SAID
11:25:57 VACATION.
11:25:57 HOWEVER, EXHIBIT A INTENDED TO BE A SUPPLEMENTARY
11:26:02 DESCRIPTION INCLUDED ALL OF LOUISIANA WITHIN THE LIVINGSTON
11:26:05 HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK TO THE EAST TOO MUCH
11:26:08 AND RESULTS IN CERTAIN PROPERTIES BEING LAND LOCKED.
11:26:11 IN ORDER TO AVOID FURTHER CONFUSION, IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE
11:26:15 2000 ORDINANCE TO BE AMENDED.
11:26:16 MR. SAMONS IS HERE AND AVAILABLE AND WILL BE PROVIDING THE
11:26:20 VISUAL AIDS AND A PRESENTATION.
11:26:21 I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTERWARDS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:26:27 THANK YOU.
11:26:27 >> MY NAME IS ROSS SAMONS.
11:26:31 I'M THE RIGHT-OF-WAY MAPPING COORDINATOR, CITY OF TAMPA.
11:26:34 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE PRESENTER TO SHARE MY SCREEN,
11:26:39 PLEASE.
11:26:40 CAN THE COUNCIL SEE MY SCREEN?
11:26:56 >> YES, WE CAN.
11:27:01 >> I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY SHOW THE ORIGINAL EXHIBIT A,
11:27:06 ORDINANCE 2000-331.
11:27:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR.
11:27:10 JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, ROSS, SINCE IT'S SECOND READING, I
11:27:15 THINK WE ALREADY HEARD THIS ON FIRST READING THE DETAILS.
11:27:18 UNLESS THE PUBLIC HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'M SURE
11:27:22 COUNCIL IS PROBABLY COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
11:27:24 SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.
11:27:28 WE'RE JUST SHORT ON TIME TODAY.
11:27:30 >> THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
11:27:32 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:27:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:27:35 ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM?
11:27:38 ANYBODY DOWN STAIRS ON THIS ITEM?
11:27:42 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:27:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED TO CLOSE.
11:27:46 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
11:27:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:27:49 ANY OPPOSED?
11:27:49 MR. VIERA.
11:27:50 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
11:27:53 MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:27:55 ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2000-331,
11:27:58 WHICH VACATED, CLOSED, DISCONTINUED AND ABANDONED CERTAIN
11:28:02 RIGHTS-OF-WAY IN THE AREA DESCRIBED BELOW, IN ORDER TO
11:28:05 CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF
11:28:08 EXHIBIT A TO SAID ORDINANCE AND REPLACING SAME WITH THE
11:28:11 ATTACHED AND REVISING EXHIBIT A PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:28:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:28:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA MOVED IT.
11:28:16 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:28:18 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:28:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:28:21 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:28:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:28:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:28:24 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:28:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:28:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:28:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:28:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, ROSS.
11:28:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 74.
11:28:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE MS. MANDELL IS DOWNSTAIRS.
11:28:41 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: ZAIN HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:28:45 ITEM 74, AB2-21-18 IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING.
11:28:51 SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
11:28:56 THE ADDRESS IS 710, 802, 804, 807, 810, 812 AND 817 EAST
11:29:05 SKAGWAY AVENUE.
11:29:07 IT IS FOR BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR.
11:29:09 CERTIFIED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CITY CLERK
11:29:12 AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:29:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:29:17 ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:29:22 >> GOOD MORNING, JULIA MANDELL ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
11:29:25 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:29:27 I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG DAY.
11:29:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:29:29 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:29:31 ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM?
11:29:34 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:29:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON
11:29:37 THIS ITEM?
11:29:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:29:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE.
11:29:42 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:29:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:29:44 ANY OPPOSED?
11:29:45 MR. MANISCALCO, DO THE HONORS OF NUMBER 74, PLEASE, SIR.
11:29:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:29:51 I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:29:53 READING AND ADOPTION.
11:29:54 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR
11:29:57 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
11:30:04 PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
11:30:05 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR ON
11:30:13 THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 710, 802,
11:30:16 804, 807, 810, 812, AND 817 EAST SKAGWAY AVENUE, TAMPA,
11:30:16 FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3,
11:30:18 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
11:30:21 CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 7695-A;
11:30:27 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:30:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. VIERA.
11:30:30 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:30:32 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:30:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:30:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:30:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MIRANDA, ON --
11:30:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW I VOTED NO.
11:30:40 I CAN CHANGE IT IF I LIKE.
11:30:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.
11:30:42 I WANTED TO POINT IT OUT.
11:30:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:44 I APPRECIATE IT.
11:30:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES FOR DINGFELDER.
11:30:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I VOTED NO IS BECAUSE THERE
11:30:49 WAS A THING ON THE ITEM THERE THAT WAS A PACKAGE SALE
11:30:52 OFF-PREMISE AND SOMEHOW WE CONVINCED THE PETITIONER SHE
11:30:56 SHOULD TAKE IT OUT.
11:30:57 WHEN THE PETITIONER IN ESSENCE AND I SAT BACK AND WATCHED.
11:31:02 I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS FAIR.
11:31:03 THERE WAS NO OBJECTION TO IT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
11:31:05 THEREFORE I'M CHANGING MY VOTE.
11:31:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:31:07 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:31:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:31:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:31:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:31:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:31:15 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 75.
11:31:18 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: ZAIN HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, GOING
11:31:21 OVER AGENDA ITEM 75.
11:31:23 CASE AB2-21-20, PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING.
11:31:28 SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES
11:31:32 OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
11:31:34 BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
11:31:35 THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 717 AND 802 NORTH 12th STREET.
11:31:40 CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK, AND
11:31:44 HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:31:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
11:31:49 HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT?
11:31:51 >> YES.
11:31:52 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
11:31:54 STEVE GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, SUITE 1100, ALSO
11:31:58 COLIN BREEN, THE OWNER OF FOUR GREENS FIELDS.
11:32:02 FIRST, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON
11:32:05 THIS PROJECT AND ALL CHANGES THAT WERE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY
11:32:08 TO THE SITE PLAN HAVE BEEN MADE, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
11:32:12 YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING.
11:32:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:32:16 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THIS ITEM?
11:32:23 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM MOVE TO.
11:32:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE?
11:32:29 MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED.
11:32:30 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED.
11:32:31 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
11:32:31 MR. CARLSON, ITEM 75.
11:32:36 >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE AB 2-21-20, ORDINANCE BEING
11:32:41 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:32:43 ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT (S-2) FOR ALCOHOLIC
11:32:47 BEVERAGE SALES -- SMALL VENUE (CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND
11:32:53 PACKAGE SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION) AND MAKING LAWFUL
11:32:56 THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER,
11:33:00 WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
11:33:03 LOCATED AT 717 AND 802 NORTH 12th STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA
11:33:07 AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT
11:33:10 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
11:33:13 REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:33:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED.
11:33:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:33:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:33:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:33:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:33:20 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:33:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:33:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:33:23 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:33:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEXT ITEM.
11:33:29 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: ZAIN HUSAIN.
11:33:30 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 76.
11:33:33 CASE AB 2-21-22 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING IS FOR A
11:33:38 RESTAURANT CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
11:33:41 IT IS FOR BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR.
11:33:43 THE LOCATION IS AT 1606 WEST SNOW AVENUE.
11:33:48 CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK.
11:33:51 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
11:33:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
11:33:56 HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
11:33:57 >> YES, SIR.
11:33:59 COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE MEAT MARKET IN
11:34:03 OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
11:34:05 WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE CITY'S REQUEST FOR MAKING THE
11:34:09 AMENDMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
11:34:11 YOUR APPROVAL.
11:34:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
11:34:13 ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
11:34:15 ANYONE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
11:34:18 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:34:22 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:34:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE?
11:34:26 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.
11:34:27 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:34:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:34:29 ANY OPPOSED?
11:34:30 MR. CITRO, DO THE HONORS OF 76 PLEASE, SIR.
11:34:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:34:35 FILE AB 2-21-22, AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
11:34:40 AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
11:34:44 (S-2) FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, RESTAURANT (CONSUMPTION
11:34:48 ON PREMISES ONLY) AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
11:34:52 REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR, ON
11:34:56 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1606 WEST SNOW
11:35:01 AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:35:05 SECTION 3; PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
11:35:09 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED; REPEALING AB1-21-07;
11:35:16 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:35:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:35:23 ALL IN FAVOR -- ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:35:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:35:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:35:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:35:28 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:35:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:35:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:35:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:35:33 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:35:35 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:35:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:35:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ITEM 77, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:35:42 SECOND READING.
11:35:43 STAFF?
11:35:46 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77, CASE REZ-21-30 IS
11:35:52 BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING.
11:35:53 IT IS A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 813 WEST AMELIA AVENUE.
11:35:58 PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS 60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO
11:36:02 PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
11:36:06 AND EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
11:36:08 CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK.
11:36:10 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:36:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:36:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HAD A QUESTION.
11:36:16 I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS ONLINE OR NOT.
11:36:19 DO WE KNOW?
11:36:20 >> YES.
11:36:21 HELLO?
11:36:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU PUT IT ON VIDEO?
11:36:28 ARE YOU ON VIDEO?
11:36:33 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:36:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN HEAR, JUST CAN'T SEE YOU.
11:36:46 >> CAN YOU SEE IT NOW?
11:36:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN SEE YOU.
11:36:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. FOX, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHEN I LOOKED
11:36:54 AT THE DRAWINGS, I NOTICED THAT ON THE PROPOSED NEW HOME ON
11:37:03 THE EMPTY LOT --
11:37:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, HE HAS TO BE SWORN IN.
11:37:07 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:37:10 DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT
11:37:12 TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:37:15 >> YES, I DO.
11:37:16 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:37:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO, COUNCIL, THIS WAS OVER THERE BY
11:37:21 ARMATURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS WAS BASICALLY TWO
11:37:26 LOTS, ONE HOUSE -- ONE EXISTING HOUSE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE
11:37:31 AND THEN A PROPOSED HOUSE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, WHICH IS
11:37:34 ALL FINE AND GOOD.
11:37:35 BUT MY QUESTION, MR. FOX, ON THE LEFT-HAND PROPOSED HOUSE,
11:37:41 IT SHOWS A GARAGE IN THE FRONT AND A SMALL LITTLE PORCH, BUT
11:37:46 THEN IT SHOWS A REAR LOADED GARAGE ON THE ALLEY AS A
11:37:52 SEPARATE STRUCTURE.
11:37:53 AND I WAS JUST WONDERING FOR THAT NEW HOME, AND I WAS JUST
11:38:01 WONDERING -- FRONT-LOADED GARAGE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SEEMS
11:38:08 A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CHARACTER.
11:38:10 I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY DESIGN IT THAT WAY AS OPPOSED TO
11:38:13 JUST HAVING A FRONT PORCH ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE NEW
11:38:17 TWO-STORY HOME AND JUST USING THE REAR-LOADED GARAGE?
11:38:22 THIS IS A PD, BY THE WAY.
11:38:29 >> I HAD WANTED THE EXTRA GARAGE SPACE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE
11:38:33 GARAGE IS VERY, VERY SMALL THAT I'M DOING ON BOTH OF THEM,
11:38:36 AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CARS, SO I JUST WANTED TO
11:38:39 BE ABLE TO PARK ALL THE CARS AND HAVE ROOM -- I WORK -- I DO
11:38:43 A LOT OF HANDY STUFF AROUND THE HOUSE AND I BUILD STUFF, SO
11:38:47 THE REAR GARAGE IS A BIT BIGGER.
11:38:51 I CAN HAVE ALL MY TOOLS THERE AND BE ABLE TO DO STUFF THERE
11:38:53 WITHOUT IT BEING OUT FRONT.
11:38:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
11:38:56 DID YOU GET ANY COMMENTS FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT A
11:39:02 FRONT-LOADED GARAGE?
11:39:04 BECAUSE IT DOES APPEAR TO ME IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ISN'T IT
11:39:07 MOSTLY ALLEY GARAGES?
11:39:11 >> IT'S A MIX.
11:39:12 BUT, YEAH, PRIMARILY -- THERE'S NOT THAT MANY FRONT-LOADED
11:39:15 GARAGES, BUT THERE ARE SOME AND AS THEY ARE BUILDING, THEY
11:39:18 ARE BUILDING MORE OF THEM.
11:39:20 AS FAR AS MY NEIGHBORS, ALL MY NEIGHBORS ARE QUITE HAPPY.
11:39:23 I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 27 YEARS.
11:39:28 EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT AND EXCITED.
11:39:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
11:39:32 I WAS MORE CURIOUS ABOUT IT WHEN I NOTICED IT TODAY.
11:39:35 THANK YOU, SIR.
11:39:36 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:39:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE?
11:39:43 MS. WELLS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
11:39:44 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.
11:39:47 I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WITH REGARD TO
11:39:50 THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:39:55 I JUST WANTED THE RECORD FOR TODAY TO REFLECT THAT.
11:40:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DEPUTY CLERK, DID YOU GET THAT FOR THE
11:40:02 RECORD?
11:40:02 MS. WELLS, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR THE CLERK, PLEASE?
11:40:13 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
11:40:14 I JUST WANTED THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT DURING THE FIRST
11:40:17 PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WAS ASKING
11:40:19 ABOUT FEEDBACK THAT THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE
11:40:22 NEIGHBORS, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE HEARING
11:40:25 WHEN THIS WAS FIRST HEARD BY COUNCIL.
11:40:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO RECALL THAT.
11:40:30 THANK YOU, CATE.
11:40:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:40:33 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:40:35 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
11:40:38 ITEM?
11:40:38 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM?
11:40:44 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:40:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE SECONDED BY MR.
11:40:49 MANISCALCO.
11:40:49 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:40:50 ANY OPPOSED?
11:40:51 MR. DINGFELDER, NUMBER 77, PLEASE.
11:40:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE AS RELATED
11:40:59 TO FILE REZ-21-30, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:41:03 READING AND ADOPTION.
11:41:04 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:41:07 813 WEST AMELIA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
11:41:11 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
11:41:13 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY)
11:41:17 TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY
11:41:20 DETACHED AND EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE); PROVIDING AN
11:41:23 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:41:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:41:26 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:41:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:41:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:41:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:41:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:41:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:41:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:41:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:41:36 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:41:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:41:39 ITEM NUMBER 78.
11:41:42 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:41:44 AGENDA ITEM 78, CASE REZ-21-32.
11:41:48 THIS IS FOR SECOND READING.
11:41:50 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3217 WEST PAUL AVENUE.
11:41:54 THIS PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-60, RESIDENTIAL
11:41:57 SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:42:00 IT IS A EUCLIDEAN, SO NO SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED.
11:42:04 I'M HERE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:42:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:42:08 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
11:42:11 >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING MOBLEY
11:42:13 HOMES.
11:42:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT YOU NOW.
11:42:17 WE DIDN'T HAVE YOU ON SCREEN.
11:42:20 WE'VE GOT YOU ON SCREEN NOW.
11:42:21 THANK YOU.
11:42:22 >>STEVE MICHELINI: OKAY.
11:42:23 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:42:25 THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS, AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED -- IT WAS
11:42:29 FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT BY THE CITY STAFF AND THE PLANNING
11:42:32 COMMISSION.
11:42:33 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:42:37 RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
11:42:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MICHELINI?
11:42:40 ALL RIGHT.
11:42:42 ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR SPEAKING ON ITEM 78?
11:42:45 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:42:47 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE REGISTERED.
11:42:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE, SECONDED BY MR.
11:42:51 MANISCALCO.
11:42:51 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:42:52 ANY OPPOSED?
11:42:54 MR. MIRANDA, 78.
11:42:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE 78, REZ-21-32, ORDINANCE BEING
11:43:05 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:43:07 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:43:09 3217 WEST PAUL AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
11:43:13 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
11:43:15 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY)
11:43:18 TO RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY); PROVIDING AN
11:43:23 EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:43:24 ORIGINAL MOTION TO ADOPT SAID ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING BY
11:43:28 MR. DINGFELDER AND MR. CITRO.
11:43:30 THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL THE CRITERIA BY THE CITY CODE AND
11:43:36 CHAPTER 27 FOR PD WITH NO WAIVERS.
11:43:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
11:43:42 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:43:42 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:43:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:43:46 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:43:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:43:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:43:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:43:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:43:51 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:43:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:44:00 >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:44:01 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 79, CASE REZ-21-34, THIS IS FOR A SECOND
11:44:07 READING.
11:44:07 THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3411, 3413 AND 3415 NORTH 29th
11:44:15 STREET.
11:44:16 THERE IS A PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:44:19 OFFICE, BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:44:22 OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL.
11:44:24 CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF AT THE CITY CLERK'S
11:44:27 OFFICE.
11:44:27 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
11:44:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:44:33 DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT ON THIS?
11:44:35 >> YES.
11:44:36 TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
11:44:39 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:44:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, WE CAN.
11:44:41 >>TRUETT GARDNER: ZAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:43 YES, WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR THIS MINOR
11:44:46 MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING PD TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE
11:44:50 OFFICE, JULY 22nd.
11:44:53 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:44:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:44:57 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THIS ITEM?
11:44:59 ANYONE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM?
11:45:05 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
11:45:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CLOSE.
11:45:08 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:45:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:45:10 ANY OPPOSED?
11:45:11 WE'RE BACK TO MR. VIERA.
11:45:13 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HEREBY MOVE AN
11:45:16 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:45:18 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:45:20 3411, 3413 AND 3415 NORTH 29th STREET IN THE CITY OF
11:45:24 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
11:45:27 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:45:30 OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:45:32 OFFICE, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:45:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
11:45:37 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:45:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:45:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:45:41 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:45:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:45:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:45:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:45:49 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:45:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 80, PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:45:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND,
11:45:58 BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'D ASK YOU TO GO BACK TO THE ITEMS THAT
11:46:02 WERE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
11:46:03 I BELIEVE I NEGLECTED TO INFORM YOU THAT IT INCLUDED ITEM
11:46:08 88.
11:46:09 JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, I'D ASK THAT THE COUNCIL MAKE A
11:46:12 MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM 88 IN CASE IT WAS
11:46:15 OVERLOOKED.
11:46:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 88?
11:46:19 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT.
11:46:20 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:46:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:46:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT, PLEASE.
11:46:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:46:27 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:46:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:46:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:46:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:46:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:46:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:46:33 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:46:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:46:39 NUMBER 80, PUBLIC HEARING.
11:46:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE A STAFF
11:46:44 PRESENTATION.
11:46:48 >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
11:46:51 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE NON-AD
11:46:56 VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR THE WESTSHORE SPECIAL SERVICES
11:47:00 DISTRICT AND ALSO APPROVING THE WESTSHORE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
11:47:03 SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
11:47:06 I BELIEVE WE HAVE ANN KULIG, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
11:47:11 WESTSHORE ALLIANCE, ON THE LINE AS WELL.
11:47:14 I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:47:16 I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT EACH RESOLUTION IS TO BE
11:47:19 ADOPTED DURING THE HEARING, PLEASE.
11:47:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:47:24 ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MORRIS?
11:47:30 WE HAVE MS. ANN THERE.
11:47:35 >> YES, I AM.
11:47:36 I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
11:47:40 TO BE HERE.
11:47:41 ANN KULIG, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
11:47:46 WE ASK AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS ASSESSMENT AND THE
11:47:46 AGREEMENT WITH THE ALLIANCE.
11:47:46 AS A REMINDER, THIS WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN 2002.
11:47:51 IT IS ASSESSED ONLY ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
11:47:54 WE DO NOT ASSESS HOMESTEADED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
11:47:57 TOWNHOME OWNERS, ET CETERA.
11:48:00 AND IT IS USED FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND PLANNING,
11:48:04 MARKETING FOR THE DISTRICT AND SOME PUBLIC SAFETY
11:48:07 INITIATIVES.
11:48:07 THE ASSESSMENT RATE THIS YEAR HAS BEEN LOWERED SLIGHTLY TO
11:48:11 13.25 CENTS PER THOUSAND.
11:48:13 LAST YEAR IT WAS 13 CENTS .8 CENTS PER THOUSAND.
11:48:17 WE DID HOLD A PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 18 AND INVITED
11:48:20 PROPERTY OWNERS TO JOIN US TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:48:23 HAD A FEW ATTENDEES.
11:48:24 I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
11:48:27 HAVE.
11:48:28 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:48:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
11:48:30 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:48:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THERE ARE SPEAKERS DOWNSTAIRS,
11:48:35 MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:48:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
11:48:37 WE HAVE SPEAKERS DOWNSTAIRS FOR NUMBER 80.
11:48:41 ANY SPEAKERS DOWNSTAIRS FOR ITEM NUMBER 80?
11:48:53 >> NO.
11:48:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO SPEAKERS.
11:48:55 ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK?
11:48:57 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
11:49:03 >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:49:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED.
11:49:06 MR. MIRANDA HAS SECONDED IT.
11:49:08 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:49:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:49:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:49:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:49:13 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:49:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:49:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:49:18 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:49:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW THE ASSESSMENT.
11:49:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO HAS MOVED IT.
11:49:27 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:49:28 ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:49:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
11:49:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:49:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:33 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:49:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:49:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:49:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:49:38 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:49:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
11:49:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE THAT HEARING.
11:49:45 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CLOSE, MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
11:49:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
11:49:49 ANY OPPOSED?
11:49:51 ITEM 81.
11:49:57 >> YES, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE ADOPTION OF
11:50:01 A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL
11:50:05 SERVICES DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
11:50:09 SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
11:50:12 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
11:50:14 WE SHOULD HAVE LYNDA REMUND ON THE LINE WHO IS PRESIDENT AND
11:50:19 CEO OF THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, AND I AM AVAILABLE TO
11:50:24 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:50:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. MORRISON.
11:50:26 IS MS. REMUND ON?
11:50:29 >> I AM.
11:50:30 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
11:50:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT CAN'T SEE YOU.
11:50:34 >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THE CAMERA GOING.
11:50:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SEE YOU NOW.
11:50:37 >> GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND CITY COUNCIL
11:50:41 MEMBERS.
11:50:41 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
11:50:43 I AM LYNDA REMUND, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN
11:50:46 PARTNERSHIP.
11:50:47 I AM HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND
11:50:51 ADOPTION OF A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT FOR THE DOWNTOWN
11:50:55 DISTRICT SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT 41 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:50:58 FOR THE PROVISIONS OF PAYING FOR SERVICES SUCH AS SAFETY AND
11:51:02 MAINTENANCE, MARKETING, BEAUTIFICATION, TRANSPORTATION, AND
11:51:05 OTHER RELATED COSTS.
11:51:06 WE HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION, OR THE DISTRICT HAS, SINCE 1994.
11:51:11 OUR ASSESSMENT RATE THIS YEAR IS AT 1.0285, WHICH IS GOING
11:51:16 TO BRING US ABOUT A $3.6 MILLION BUDGET.
11:51:20 WE HAVE HELD SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS -- NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS
11:51:25 BUT COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND ALSO
11:51:29 PRESENTED IN FRONT OF OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS AND
11:51:33 PROPERTY OWNERS.
11:51:34 I RESPECTFULLY ASK TODAY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO CONTINUE
11:51:38 OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
11:51:42 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:51:44 THANK YOU.
11:51:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:51:46 IS THERE ANYBODY HERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS
11:51:50 ITEM?
11:51:50 81?
11:51:52 STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.
11:52:02 >> ELIZABETH DEAMBROSE.
11:52:04 I LIVE AT SKYPOINT IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
11:52:08 I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT RESIDENT ISSUES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
11:52:18 MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE DISTRICT FEEL THAT IT'S
11:52:24 TREATED AS A BUSINESS AND TOURIST DESTINATION, BUT NOT AS A
11:52:31 RESIDENTIAL AREA ALSO.
11:52:33 SO WE FEEL THAT THE PRESENCE OF POLICE IS LACKING.
11:52:46 ONE OF THE FAMOUS COMMENTS THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN IS WHERE ARE
11:52:49 THE POLICE?
11:52:51 NO ONE SEES POLICE PATROLS AT ALL.
11:52:55 THE HOMELESS SITUATION IS INCREASINGLY GETTING WORSE.
11:53:01 WE'RE BUILDING AND EXPANDING ON TO THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART
11:53:07 AND THE STRAZ CENTER, AND YET THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT GET
11:53:15 THE HERMAN MASSEY PARK BUILT.
11:53:17 SO WHEN WE WALK OUR DOGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S
11:53:23 GARBAGE ALL OVER THE PLACE, HOMELESS PEOPLE, AND A PROMISE
11:53:29 OF THESE THINGS, BUT THEY ARE NEVER DONE.
11:53:31 THE LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS NOT
11:53:36 CONSISTENT.
11:53:38 ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE PUT IN YOU BASICALLY HAVEN'T
11:53:42 MAINTAINED.
11:53:43 THERE'S NO CONTINUITY AT ALL.
11:53:45 WHEN I BRING UP THESE ISSUES, I'M BRINGING THEM UP BECAUSE,
11:53:52 AGAIN, BEING ASSESSED AS A RESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE
11:53:58 DON'T FEEL THAT RESIDENTS ARE AS IMPORTANT AS THE BUSINESS
11:54:08 DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY SHOULD BE EQUAL PARTS.
11:54:12 THAT'S IT.
11:54:12 THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
11:54:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MA'AM, BUT I
11:54:17 WOULD SAY THAT YOU HAVE A CAC, WHICH IS YOUR COMMUNITY
11:54:20 ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL HAS APPROVED
11:54:24 THROUGH OUR CRA BOARD, ASKED FOR POLICE SERVICES, SO THAT'S
11:54:29 COMING.
11:54:30 AS RELATES TO HERMAN MASSEY PARK, THAT'S NOT COUNCIL'S
11:54:33 FAULT.
11:54:33 LITIGATION ISSUES WITH BOTH PARTIES.
11:54:36 I THINK THEY ARE WORKING THOSE THINGS OUT.
11:54:37 I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I THINK A LOT OF THINGS
11:54:40 ARE COMING TO ADDRESS THE RESIDENTIAL ISSUES.
11:54:42 >> WELL, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE PARK, THEY HAVE BEEN A LONG
11:54:45 TIME COMING.
11:54:46 BUT WHO TOOK PRECEDENT IN THAT?
11:54:49 IT WAS THE LANDOWNER WANTING PART OF THE CITY PROPERTY,
11:54:55 CORRECT?
11:54:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T ELABORATE ON THAT.
11:54:58 >> AND THEN IT WAS HELD UP FOR SO LONG.
11:55:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T ELABORATE ON THAT.
11:55:01 THERE WERE SOME LEGAL ISSUES THERE.
11:55:03 BUT THE LANDOWNER DID HAVE RIGHTS.
11:55:05 I WOULD SAY THAT.
11:55:05 I THINK THEY WORKED SOME OF THOSE ISSUES OUT AND I THINK
11:55:07 THAT'S FORTHCOMING.
11:55:08 I THINK IT'S GETTING CLOSE, BUT I THINK IF YOU GET WITH YOUR
11:55:12 CAC, YOUR COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR YOUR CRA IN THAT
11:55:15 DISTRICT, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU
11:55:17 CAN ADDRESS WITH THEM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE LOOKING
11:55:21 FORWARD TO DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:55:24 >> YEAH, WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON THEM, BUT IT'S
11:55:27 SLOW.
11:55:27 AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH ATTENTION AS THE RESIDENTS
11:55:33 WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
11:55:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I SEND A MEMO TO
11:55:37 THE MANAGER OF THAT CAC AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE
11:55:41 ASKING.
11:55:42 I ASK THAT YOU STILL GIVE THEM A CALL, AND I'LL MAKE SURE
11:55:46 THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ARE ASKING TODAY, THAT THEY
11:55:49 ADDRESS THEM WITH YOU.
11:55:49 BUT I KNOW A LOT OF THINGS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE
11:55:53 FORTHCOMING.
11:55:53 I KNOW GOVERNMENT RUNS SLOW SOMETIMES.
11:55:55 I GET UPSET, TOO, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
11:55:58 I KNOW THOSE THINGS ARE FORTHCOMING.
11:55:59 WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
11:56:01 >> THANK YOU.
11:56:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LYNDA, ARE YOU STILL ON THERE FROM THE
11:56:07 PARTNERSHIP?
11:56:09 >> I AM.
11:56:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DID YOU HEAR HER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS?
11:56:13 >> YES, SIR, I DID.
11:56:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY RESPONSE?
11:56:19 I GUESS THE PARTNERSHIP OVER THE YEARS, HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON
11:56:25 BUSINESSES, AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT NOW WE DO HAVE A NEW
11:56:28 DYNAMIC WITH A LOT MORE PEOPLE LIVING DOWNTOWN.
11:56:31 AND THEN I GUESS IF YOUR AREA ALSO INCLUDES WATER STREET, WE
11:56:36 EVEN HAVE MORE, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
11:56:39 IT'S A GOOD THING FOR BUSINESSES.
11:56:40 IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.
11:56:43 BUT ANYWAY, ANY RESPONSE TO THE YOUNG LADY'S CONCERNS?
11:56:48 >> YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT,
11:56:52 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
11:56:53 I WILL SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WE MAINTAIN THE
11:56:57 RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
11:56:58 SO A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPE BEDS ARE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY'S
11:57:03 PARKS DEPARTMENT.
11:57:04 WE DO WORK VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.
11:57:06 WE ARE ALSO WORKING AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE NOW HAVE 16,000
11:57:11 PLUS RESIDENTS LIVING IN DOWNTOWN.
11:57:13 WE DO REACH OUT TO THEM QUITE OFTEN.
11:57:18 AS PART OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE ARE CONSTANTLY
11:57:22 ENGAGING OUR RESIDENTIAL BASE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT
11:57:28 THEY HAVE.
11:57:29 I RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE MS. DEAMBROSE'S COMMENTS
11:57:33 REGARDING THE HOMELESS.
11:57:34 WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY
11:57:37 STAFF VERY, VERY CLOSELY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
11:57:43 ON THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES AND HAVE HAD MANY, MANY MEETINGS
11:57:46 OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS PULLING IN NEIGHBORHOOD
11:57:50 STAKEHOLDERS TO DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES.
11:57:53 SO IT IS ON OUR RADAR.
11:57:55 WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE, AND I WOULD WELCOME ANY RESIDENT OR
11:58:00 BUSINESS OWNER WHO HAS AN ISSUE TO PLEASE CALL THE
11:58:02 PARTNERSHIP.
11:58:03 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH ANYONE AND GO OVER ALL OF
11:58:08 THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE AND TO ENHANCE THOSE SERVICES AND
11:58:12 ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
11:58:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LYNDA, I KNOW YOU HAVE A BOARD.
11:58:19 HOW BIG IS YOUR BOARD?
11:58:20 >> OUR BOARD IS 49.
11:58:23 49 BUSINESS LEADERS.
11:58:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 49 BUSINESS LEADERS.
11:58:28 >> BUSINESS LEADERS, AND WE ALSO HAVE -- A COUPLE OF THEM
11:58:32 ARE RESIDENTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT
11:58:35 ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHO ADVISES US ON THE DISTRICT SIDE OF
11:58:40 THE OPERATIONS.
11:58:42 SO WE ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS ON THAT BOARD AS WELL, ON THAT
11:58:48 ADVISORY COUNCIL.
11:58:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE THE BOARD -- AND MICHAEL, I SEE YOU
11:58:52 THERE, I'M NOT IGNORING YOU -- BUT MAYBE THE BOARD SHOULD
11:58:57 CONSIDER SOME SPECIFIC POSITIONS, BOARD POSITIONS IN THE
11:59:02 FUTURE FOR RESIDENTS.
11:59:04 DO RESIDENTS PAY -- IF THEY OWN THEIR CONDOS, ARE THEY
11:59:08 ASSESSED AS WELL?
11:59:10 >> THEY ARE, YES, SIR.
11:59:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, IN THAT CASE, NO TAXATION WITHOUT
11:59:15 REPRESENTATION, RIGHT?
11:59:16 SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN NEXT YEAR MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME
11:59:21 SPECIFIC POSITIONS ON THE BOARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:59:24 THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.
11:59:26 THANK YOU.
11:59:28 >> THANK YOU.
11:59:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:59:37 >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:59:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
11:59:39 ALL RIGHT.
11:59:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS HIS NAME, SIR?
11:59:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SAY YOUR NAME.
11:59:46 >> DANIEL TRAUGOTT.
11:59:50 I GUESS I KIND OF JUMPED INTO THE CONVERSATION AT THE RIGHT
11:59:55 TIME.
11:59:56 PRESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN RIVER ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD
11:59:57 ASSOCIATION.
11:59:59 NEIGHBORHOOD TOPICS JUST CAME UP.
12:00:00 SO I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ADOPTION OF THE
12:00:04 NON-AD VALOREM TAX OR THE AGREEMENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA
12:00:09 PARTNERSHIP.
12:00:09 WE ALL KNOW A LOT OF THE THINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP
12:00:15 DOES.
12:00:16 WE KNOW THEY RUN THE CLEAN TEAM TO KEEP THE CITY CLEAN.
12:00:18 THEY ACTIVATE PARKS WITH PROGRAMMING AND EVENTS.
12:00:21 THEY HAVE DOWNTOWN GUIDES.
12:00:23 THEY HAVE DOZENS OF PLANTERS AROUND TOWN.
12:00:26 THE POTS AND SO FORTH WITH FLOWERS AND SO FORTH.
12:00:29 SEPARATE FROM THE LANDSCAPE AREAS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING A
12:00:31 LITTLE WHILE AGO.
12:00:35 DO THINGS LIKE MURALS ON THE STREETS AND SO FORTH.
12:00:38 ASIDE FROM THE MORE VISIBLE THINGS LIKE THAT THE TAMPA
12:00:41 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP DOES DO A LOT OF THINGS BEHIND THE
12:00:43 SCENES.
12:00:44 THEY HAVE WORKED WITH US EXTENSIVELY IN HELPING US TO FIGURE
12:00:48 OUT SOME ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:00:51 THEY PUT US IN TOUCH WITH CITY OFFICIALS AND LEADERS AND
12:00:55 JUST GENERAL ADVICE TO HELP GUIDE US THROUGH SOME OF THE
12:00:59 ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING DOWNTOWN.
12:01:02 I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA
12:01:08 PARTNERSHIP IS HELPING TO FOSTER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
12:01:14 DOWNTOWN.
12:01:16 IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE, I THINK, WITHIN OUR
12:01:19 NEIGHBORHOOD OF DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE ABOUT 3,000 RESIDENTIAL
12:01:22 UNITS AS WELL AS A FEW MUSEUMS, THE TAMPA THEATRE, THE STRAZ
12:01:26 CENTER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT THE
12:01:28 RIVERWALK, THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA RIVERWALK, IF YOU'RE AWARE OF
12:01:33 TRIP ADVISOR.
12:01:34 THEY ARE LIKE THE LARGEST TOURIST WEBSITE.
12:01:40 THE RIVERWALK IS THE NUMBER THREE THING TO DO IN TAMPA.
12:01:45 I HAD BUSCH GARDENS, THE ZOO AND HEAD OF THE AQUARIUM.
12:01:51 WE HAVE A LOT OF TOURISTS DOWNTOWN.
12:01:52 THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP IS HELPING US TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO
12:01:58 MANAGE NOT ONLY RESIDENTS BUT ALL THE TOURISTS AND PEOPLE
12:02:01 THAT COME DOWNTOWN.
12:02:03 SOME OF THEM DO CAUSE PROBLEMS.
12:02:04 SO THEY ARE HELPING US TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MANAGE THE
12:02:09 PEOPLE AND ACTIVITY AND THINGS GOING ON DOWNTOWN AND WE
12:02:12 APPRECIATE THAT.
12:02:13 THE STAFF AT THE PARTNERSHIP IS ACTUALLY VERY TRULY
12:02:16 DEDICATED AND GREATLY INTERESTED IN KEEPING DOWNTOWN A GREAT
12:02:20 PLACE AND BUILDING DOWNTOWN INTO AN EVEN GREATER PLACE.
12:02:25 FOR THOSE REASONS I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL
12:02:27 CONTINUE THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARTNERSHIP.
12:02:29 THANK YOU.
12:02:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:02:32 ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:02:34 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ELSE?
12:02:39 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE ELSE IS REGISTERED.
12:02:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
12:02:44 SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.
12:02:47 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:02:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
12:02:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:02:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:02:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:02:57 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:02:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:03:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:03:00 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA
12:03:03 BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:03:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED THE SECOND.
12:03:08 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
12:03:09 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:03:10 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:03:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
12:03:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:03:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:03:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:03:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:03:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:03:19 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
12:03:23 ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:03:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, IT'S NOW 12:00.
12:03:26 I BELIEVE WE CAN GET THROUGH THESE LAST THREE ITEMS QUICKLY
12:03:30 IF WE CAN EXTEND THE TIME TO ABOUT 12:15.
12:03:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED IT.
12:03:37 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
12:03:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:03:39 ANY OPPOSED?
12:03:39 12:15 IT IS.
12:03:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE, TO CLOSE
12:03:50 81?
12:03:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM 81, MR. DINGFELDER.
12:03:53 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
12:03:54 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
12:03:55 ALL RIGHT. ITEM 82.
12:03:59 >> AGAIN, BRIAN MORRISON, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
12:04:04 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE NON-AD
12:04:07 VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR THE DOWNTOWN AND YBOR CITY AREAS
12:04:11 REGARDING THE OPERATING COST OF THE TAMPA YBOR HISTORIC
12:04:15 ELECTRIC STREETCAR PROJECT.
12:04:16 WE HAVE MICHAEL ENGLISH, PRESIDENT OF THE STREETCAR ON THE
12:04:20 LINE, AND WE MAY ALSO HAVE SOMEONE FROM HART.
12:04:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
12:04:32 LET'S HEAR FROM THOSE REPRESENTATIVES, BRIEF PRESENTATION,
12:04:38 MR. ENGLISH.
12:04:39 >> VERY BRIEF.
12:04:40 THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
12:04:41 MY NAME IS MICHAEL ENGLISH.
12:04:43 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE STREETCAR BOARD.
12:04:45 ALSO ON THE LINE, IF YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS IS MR.
12:04:49 BRIAN ALLEN, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF STREETCAR OPERATIONS FOR
12:04:52 HART.
12:04:53 WE ARE HERE TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE
12:04:58 SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT FOR THE STREETCAR.
12:05:00 AS YOU KNOW, IT IS ESSENTIAL TO OUR BUDGET, AND WE HAVE
12:05:04 ALWAYS MIGHTILY APPRECIATED YOUR SUPPORT, WHICH HAS BEEN
12:05:09 GOING ON NOW FOR 22 YEARS.
12:05:12 THANK YOU.
12:05:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:05:16 ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:05:21 ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:05:26 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
12:05:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE.
12:05:28 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
12:05:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ENGLISH, PLEASE REFRESH MY MEMORY.
12:05:35 ALL THREE OF THE CRAs, DOWNTOWN, CHANNELSIDE, AND YBOR
12:05:40 CITY ONE ARE PUTTING IN MONIES FOR THE STREETCAR, ARE THEY
12:05:46 NOT?
12:05:46 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
12:05:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
12:05:49 AND THE PORT IS STILL OFFERING NOTHING FOR THIS?
12:05:55 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
12:05:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:05:56 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:05:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT.
12:05:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
12:06:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST HAD A QUICK COMMENT.
12:06:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
12:06:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
12:06:06 MICHAEL, I KNOW I FOR ONE, AND I THINK ALL OF COUNCIL IS
12:06:13 VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE
12:06:16 STREETCAR AND THE UPDATING OF THE STATIONS, ET CETERA, OF
12:06:22 THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
12:06:24 WHAT SORT OF TIME FRAME ARE WE LOOKING AT TO ACCOMPLISH SOME
12:06:28 OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS?
12:06:31 >> THE DESIGN OF THE EXTENSION HAS BEEN WELL UNDERWAY FOR
12:06:36 SOME TIME.
12:06:37 IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THERE IS A REFERENDUM A YEAR
12:06:44 FROM NOVEMBER FOR A LOCAL SALES TAX, AGAIN, WHICH IT WOULD
12:06:50 BE CRITICAL FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE STREETCAR EXTENSION
12:06:54 BECAUSE THAT EXTENSION REQUIRES A LOCAL MATCH AS WELL AS
12:06:57 FUNDS FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
12:07:02 IF THAT HAPPENS, WE'LL HAVE AN EXTENSION COMPLETE BY 2024 TO
12:07:09 '25.
12:07:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WILL TAKE US, AT A MINIMUM, UP TO
12:07:13 ARMATURE WORKS, UP TO --
12:07:16 >> EXACTLY.
12:07:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TAMPA HEIGHTS.
12:07:17 >> PALM AVENUE.
12:07:18 UM-HUM.
12:07:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:07:20 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:07:21 >> ABSOLUTELY.
12:07:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:07:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:07:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED IT.
12:07:28 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
12:07:29 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:07:31 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:07:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:07:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:07:35 >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
12:07:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:07:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:07:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:07:42 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
12:07:45 ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:07:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE?
12:07:46 MR. MANISCALCO MOVED TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
12:07:51 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED.
12:07:54 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:07:55 OPPOSED?
12:07:55 WE'RE CLOSED.
12:07:56 ITEM NUMBER 83.
12:08:14 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
12:08:16 JAN McLEAN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY
12:08:20 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
12:08:21 ITEM 83, A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL STORMWATER
12:08:24 SERVICE ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE INCORPORATED BOUNDARIES OF THE
12:08:28 CITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
12:08:31 SERVICES IN THE CITY.
12:08:32 THE ADOPTION ALSO -- ALSO THE ADOPTION OF THE ANNUAL NON-AD
12:08:35 VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL TO BE CERTIFIED TO THE TAX COLLECTOR
12:08:38 TO BE BILLED FOR THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
12:08:41 IF I COULD REMIND YOU AS WELL AS IN THE PREVIOUS NON-AD
12:08:44 VALOREM ASSESSMENTS, THE VOTE MUST BE TAKEN WITHIN THE
12:08:46 PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE IT IS CLOSED.
12:08:48 WE HAVE RECEIVED NO OBJECTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S
12:08:53 ANYONE THERE TO SPEAK.
12:08:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF?
12:08:59 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
12:09:02 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
12:09:09 REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM?
12:09:12 >>THE CLERK: I HAVE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
12:09:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
12:09:16 MR. MIRANDA HAS SECONDED IT.
12:09:17 ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:09:18 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:09:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:09:22 >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
12:09:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:09:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:09:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:09:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:09:28 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
12:09:31 ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:09:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA HAS MOVED TO CLOSE.
12:09:35 SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
12:09:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:09:38 ANY OPPOSED?
12:09:39 CARRIED.
12:09:40 ITEM NUMBER 84.
12:09:44 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
12:09:47 McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY
12:09:49 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, FOR THE RECORD.
12:09:51 THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84.
12:09:54 PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL ROLL FOR THE STORMWATER
12:09:58 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENTS.
12:10:00 WE HAVE RECEIVED NO LETTERS OF OBJECTION FOR YOUR
12:10:02 CONSIDERATION.
12:10:04 MAY I RESPECTFULLY REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT NOT ONLY MUST WE
12:10:07 TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THIS HEARING, BUT THE VOTE MUST
12:10:10 ALSO OCCUR BEFORE IT CLOSES.
12:10:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
12:10:15 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON THE SECOND
12:10:18 FLOOR?
12:10:19 WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.
12:10:22 >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
12:10:22 MY NAME YOHEYNI BRITO.
12:10:23 I'M HERE ALSO WITH MY MOM JEANETTE GUTIERREZ.
12:10:29 SHE WANTS ME TO SPEAK ON HER BEHALF AS WELL.
12:10:31 WE WANT TO OBJECT TO THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT FOR THE
12:10:34 STORMWATER ON BROADWAY AND 61st STREET.
12:10:36 JUST LAST YEAR ALONE, OUR TAX WENT UP FOR ONE PROPERTY
12:10:41 ALONE, TWO PROPERTIES DIVIDED IN TWO.
12:10:44 SO IT'S FOUR TAX BILLS.
12:10:45 EACH ONE, ONE OF THEM WAS ALREADY $650 THAT WAS AN INCREASE
12:10:48 IN 2020.
12:10:49 THE OTHER PROPERTY WAS ABOUT $300 AND SO FORTH.
12:10:53 SO NOW THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE STORMWATER, THEY WANT TO
12:10:56 INCREASE ONE OF THE PROPERTIES IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN $588.
12:11:01 THE OTHER TO $642.97.
12:11:05 THE OTHER $208.65.
12:11:07 AND $191.06.
12:11:10 AS TAXPAYERS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US,
12:11:15 ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WITH THE PANDEMIC.
12:11:17 THAT PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PROPERTIES VACANT.
12:11:20 WE PAY MORTGAGE.
12:11:21 WE PAY MAINTENANCE.
12:11:23 CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTUALLY JUST HAD US REBUILD THE WHOLE
12:11:26 FENCE ALL AROUND, THAT COST US $5,000.
12:11:29 WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS ASSESSMENT.
12:11:31 I'M NOT AGAINST IMPROVEMENT, BUT DEFINITELY I FEEL LIKE
12:11:36 THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER WAY OR MAYBE DECREASE THE
12:11:38 ASSESSMENT.
12:11:39 AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.
12:11:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
12:11:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST HOLD ON THERE JUST FOR A SECOND,
12:11:46 MA'AM.
12:11:46 I HAD A QUESTION OF STAFF AS RELATED TO YOUR COMMENT.
12:11:49 GOING BACK TO LEGAL OR WHOEVER WAS UP THERE, JAN OR YOUR
12:12:01 COMPADRE, DID WE INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR IN
12:12:07 TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC FEE OR THE MILLAGE OR HOWEVER IT'S
12:12:10 CALCULATED ON VARIOUS PARCELS?
12:12:12 I THOUGHT IT WAS A RELATIVELY STABLE ASSESSMENT FROM LAST
12:12:15 YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
12:12:19 >>JAN McLEAN: JAN MCLEAN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
12:12:22 THIS IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT, AND THIS, WHEN
12:12:25 IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2016, SET OUT A PHASED-IN RATE STRUCTURE
12:12:30 SO THAT THIS YEAR IS THE LAST YEAR OF THE INCREASE, AND IT
12:12:34 MAXES OUT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE ASSESSMENT TERM --
12:12:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE INCREASE FROM
12:12:40 LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, JAN?
12:12:43 A PERCENTAGE INCREASE.
12:12:46 >>JAN McLEAN: I DON'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE.
12:12:48 I DO KNOW THAT THE RATE AT THIS POINT IS $89.55 PER
12:12:54 EQUIVALENT STORMWATER UNIT.
12:12:56 SO DEPENDING ON HOW MANY ESUs ARE ASSIGNED TO THIS
12:13:01 PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FOUR PROPERTIES,
12:13:04 BASED ON THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT'S ON THOSE PROPERTIES,
12:13:08 89.55 PER ESU.
12:13:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL GET CHARLIE TO HELP US WITH
12:13:14 PERCENTAGES BECAUSE HE IS OUR MATH WHIZ.
12:13:16 $89 THIS YEAR AND HOW ABOUT LAST YEAR?
12:13:19 ANYBODY KNOW WHAT LAST YEAR'S ASSESSMENT WAS?
12:13:22 I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT SORT OF INCREASE OVER
12:13:27 LAST YEAR.
12:13:30 >>JAN McLEAN: I THINK LAST YEAR -- I'M SORRY THAT I DON'T
12:13:34 HAVE THAT.
12:13:35 I'LL HAVE TO GO FROM MY OLD MEMORY.
12:13:37 BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE $87 RANGE PER ESU IN SOME SENSE.
12:13:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 87?
12:13:44 >>JAN McLEAN: YES.
12:13:45 IT WENT UP INCREMENTALLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
12:13:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $2 PER ESU
12:13:52 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR APPROXIMATELY?
12:13:57 >>JAN McLEAN: IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, YES, SIR.
12:14:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT.
12:14:02 THANK YOU.
12:14:02 GOING BACK TO THE -- TO THOSE FOLKS, I GUESS WHETHER OR NOT
12:14:11 WE LIKE IT OR NOT AND THAT SORT OF THING, THIS HAS BEEN ON
12:14:16 PEOPLE'S BILLS SINCE -- FOR THE LAST FOUR, FIVE YEARS, SINCE
12:14:20 2016.
12:14:21 AND IT'S JUST GONE UP A TINY LITTLE BIT FROM LAST YEAR TO
12:14:26 THIS YEAR, UNLESS YOUR BILL IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
12:14:29 WE JUST HEARD.
12:14:30 I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT AN ESU IS
12:14:36 BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT AN ESU IS, BUT I DO KNOW A
12:14:40 LITTLE BIT ABOUT MATH AND SHE SAID $2 OF CHANGE OUT OF THE
12:14:45 $89 IS NOT A HUGE INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
12:14:50 >> I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR ONE OF
12:14:54 THE PROPERTIES THAT'S 14-15.
12:14:58 2019, I'M SPEAKING OVERALL PROPERTY TAXES.
12:15:00 I'M NOT SURE IF I'M USING --
12:15:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN'T ADDRESS OVERALL PROPERTY TAXES,
12:15:06 BUT WE CAN ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC ISSUE, WHICH IS THIS ITEM.
12:15:11 CAN YOU QUICKLY TELL ME WHAT THE INCREASE WAS ON HER BILL
12:15:17 FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR FOR
12:15:22 THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT?
12:15:25 DOES IT SHOW THAT EASILY ON THE BILL?
12:15:30 >> IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SHOW LAST YEAR'S.
12:15:33 AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE LAST YEAR'S BILL AND THEN THIS
12:15:36 YEAR BILL TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
12:15:38 >> THIS WAS 2019, AND THEN I HAVE 2020.
12:15:43 I MARKED THERE THE INCREASE.
12:15:45 LIKE I SAID, I KNOW IT'S NOT THE STORMWATER.
12:15:47 I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL HOW THE INCREASE WE PAID $632
12:15:51 MORE IN 2020.
12:15:53 THAT'S A HUGE JUMP.
12:15:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME SAY THIS YOUNG LADY.
12:16:00 WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE ISSUE TODAY.
12:16:03 BUT I WILL REFER YOU, IF YOU CONTACT MY OFFICE, WE'LL GET
12:16:08 YOU IN TOUCH WITH ONE OF OUR CITY PERSONNEL TO TALK WITH YOU
12:16:11 AND LOOK AT THAT BILL TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:16:15 THAT WAY WE CAN HELP YOU FURTHER, VERSUS WE DON'T REALLY
12:16:18 KNOW.
12:16:18 CAN'T SEE IT AND DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:16:22 IF YOU CONTACT MY OFFICE, I PROMISE YOU WE'LL GET SOMEBODY
12:16:25 TO CONTACT YOU TO GET SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT YOUR BILLS AND SEE
12:16:29 WHAT'S GOING ON, ALL RIGHT?
12:16:31 >> I AGREE.
12:16:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:16:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN
12:16:36 THIS.
12:16:37 IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS HEARING, A LOT OF TIMES THIS VACANT LAND
12:16:40 AND SOMEBODY PUTS A BUILDING ON IT, IF YOU HAVE VACANT LAND,
12:16:44 THE COST GOES UP ON THE APPRAISAL, SO YOUR LAND VALUE GOES
12:16:47 UP.
12:16:47 THAT COULD BE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
12:16:49 BUT HOWEVER, IN STORMWATER, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
12:16:52 BUILT SOMETHING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY COVER THE WHOLE
12:16:56 FRONT YARD WITH EITHER PAVERS OR SOLID CONCRETE AND THERE'S
12:17:02 WHERE THE STORMWATER THING WILL SHOOT RIGHT UP.
12:17:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
12:17:06 LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY.
12:17:07 >>JAN McLEAN: JAN McLEAN, AGAIN, TO RESPOND MORE CORRECTLY
12:17:10 TO MR. DINGFELDER'S INQUIRY WITH REGARD TO THE DIFFERENCE IN
12:17:14 THE RATE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
12:17:18 QUICKLY CHECKED WITH STAFF.
12:17:20 THE RATE FOR AN ESU FOR THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT LAST YEAR
12:17:23 WAS $82.74.
12:17:25 AS I INDICATED FOR THIS YEAR, IT IS $89.55.
12:17:30 SO I WAS INCORRECT.
12:17:31 IT WENT FROM APPROXIMATELY $7 INCREASE.
12:17:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
12:17:41 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO TALK ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES IN
12:17:44 GENERAL, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD DIRECT PEOPLE ALSO TO THE
12:17:47 PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.
12:17:49 IF SOMEONE OWNS NON-HOMESTEADED PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY
12:17:54 OWN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, IT GOES UP IN VALUE EVERY YEAR.
12:17:58 EVEN THOUGH WE KEEP THE RATES THE SAME, BECAUSE THEIR
12:18:02 PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING UP.
12:18:04 I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN MY OFFICE ABOUT THAT.
12:18:07 ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO HAS A QUESTION LIKE THAT, MAYBE
12:18:09 CONTACT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.
12:18:12 THE GOOD THING IS YOUR PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING UP.
12:18:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS
12:18:18 ITEM, 84, ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
12:18:20 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK?
12:18:29 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
12:18:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
12:18:32 MR. CITRO HAS SECONDED IT.
12:18:36 ROLL CALL.
12:18:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:18:38 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:18:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:18:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:18:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:18:45 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:18:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:18:46 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:18:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:18:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
12:18:52 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED.
12:18:53 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:18:54 ANY OPPOSED?
12:18:55 GENTLEMEN, I SAID 12:15.
12:18:58 I BELIEVE WE CAN GET THROUGH ITEM NUMBER 85.
12:19:05 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:19:12 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:19:13 THIS IS PATRICK PEREZ, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
12:19:16 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT A NON-AD VALOREM SPECIAL
12:19:21 STREETLIGHT ASSESSMENT FOR THE WEST SAN JOSE STREET IN
12:19:27 SUNSET PARK ISLES AND ALSO APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN
12:19:30 THE CITY AND THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR.
12:19:33 I BELIEVE ATTORNEY MARTINO IS ON THE LINE REPRESENTING THE
12:19:38 APPLICANT.
12:19:38 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
12:19:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
12:19:42 ALL RIGHT.
12:19:43 ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:19:46 >> ANTHONY MARTINO, RESIDENT OF THE WEST SAN JOSE COMMITTEE
12:19:51 THAT'S BEEN PROMOTING THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY AND CONVERSION
12:19:53 TO STREETLIGHTS, WHICH NEEDS A RESOLUTION TO PASS WITH THE
12:19:57 CITY, ADOPTING NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL, WHICH HAS
12:20:02 ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF, I BELIEVE.
12:20:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
12:20:09 >> LIKE TO ADD ALSO, COUNCILMEN, WE HAVE 100% WRITTEN
12:20:13 COMMITMENTS FROM ALL 50 LOT OWNERS FOR THIS PROJECT.
12:20:17 SO WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY CONCERNS OR OBJECTIONS TO GOING
12:20:21 FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
12:20:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
12:20:25 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:20:27 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
12:20:33 >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM.
12:20:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE WE MOVE TO CLOSE, MR.
12:20:37 SHELBY?
12:20:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS ONE YOU CAN CLOSE.
12:20:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MARTINO AND YOUR
12:20:43 COMPATRIOT THERE.
12:20:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE?
12:20:45 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
12:20:48 ROLL CALL.
12:20:51 MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT.
12:20:55 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED.
12:20:57 >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
12:21:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WAS THAT MOVE TO CLOSE OR THE RESOLUTION?
12:21:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN CLOSE THIS ONE.
12:21:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE.
12:21:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:21:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THERE A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE?
12:21:13 I DIDN'T HEAR.
12:21:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE WAS NOT A VOTE.
12:21:18 >> MAY I ASK, IS THERE AN APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION?
12:21:21 WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE TODAY THE RESOLUTION SO
12:21:24 THAT THE MAYOR CAN SIGN IT.
12:21:26 WE HAVE A SCHEDULE --
12:21:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET, SIR.
12:21:30 GIVE US A MOMENT.
12:21:31 WE MOVED TO CLOSE IT BUT WE DIDN'T MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:21:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DIDN'T VOTE.
12:21:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DIDN'T VOTE ON THE CLOSE.
12:21:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:21:45 MR. MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE.
12:21:47 MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED IT.
12:21:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:21:49 ALL RIGHT.
12:21:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:21:53 >> COUNCIL, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?
12:21:55 CAN WE KEEP THE HEARING OPEN WHILE WE VOTE ON THE
12:21:59 RESOLUTION?
12:22:01 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REOPEN.
12:22:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE'LL DO IT.
12:22:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, WHERE SHOULD WE BE AT THIS
12:22:09 POINT?
12:22:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THIS POINT, IT MAKES TO REOPEN IS THE
12:22:15 MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
12:22:15 IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT?
12:22:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OPEN THE HEARING WITH MR. MANISCALCO, MR.
12:22:20 DINGFELDER SECOND.
12:22:21 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:22:21 ANY OPPOSED?
12:22:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:22:24 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
12:22:26 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
12:22:27 ROLL CALL.
12:22:30 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:22:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:22:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:22:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
12:22:34 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:22:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:22:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:22:39 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:22:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW SIR.
12:22:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:22:44 MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT.
12:22:46 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
12:22:48 ALL IN FAVOR?
12:22:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, MR. MARTINO.
12:22:54 >> GREAT.
12:22:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
12:22:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.
12:23:00 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:23:00 THANK YOU.
12:23:00 [RECESS]
01:32:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE] ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:32:10 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:32:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:32:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.
01:32:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
01:32:14 >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
01:32:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:32:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:32:18 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:32:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK.
01:32:21 GENTLEMEN, I TELL YOU, SURPRISING ENOUGH, WE GOT THROUGH
01:32:24 THIS MORNING'S AGENDA.
01:32:25 VERY SURPRISING.
01:32:27 GOOD WORK WE'RE DOING.
01:32:28 ITEM NUMBER 87, WE'LL GO INTO STAFF REPORTS.
01:32:35 CHIEF OF STAFF, HE HAS AN APPOINTMENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I
01:32:40 GET HIM IN AND OUT.
01:32:41 WITH ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES.
01:32:46 THERE HE IS.
01:32:47 GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.
01:32:48 NO VOLUME, SIR.
01:32:53 NO VOLUME.
01:32:56 >>JOHN BENNETT: TRY THIS AGAIN.
01:32:58 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
01:32:59 THANK YOU.
01:33:00 GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:33:01 GOOD AFTERNOON, PUBLIC.
01:33:02 I SHOULD BE VIRTUALLY JOINED BY FIRE CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP AND
01:33:09 HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR KELLY AUSTIN, BOTH VIRTUAL AS WELL.
01:33:12 FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'LL TRY AND BE BRIEF.
01:33:17 YET AS THOROUGH AS POSSIBLE.
01:33:19 TWO THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND THEY ARE SEPARATE
01:33:21 ISSUES.
01:33:22 ONE IS THE UPDATED COVID REPORT AS IT RELATES TO THE
01:33:26 COMMUNITY AND OUR WORKFORCE, AND THEN, SECONDLY, I WANT TO
01:33:29 GIVE COUNCIL A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE VACCINE POLICY THAT WAS
01:33:35 PUT OUT TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, OF COURSE, AS WELL AS
01:33:40 ANNOUNCED TO THE PUBLIC YESTERDAY.
01:33:41 BUT WE'LL START WITH THE COVID UPDATE.
01:33:44 EVERYTHING WE DO AROUND HERE STARTS WITH DATA, TALKING TO
01:33:48 THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS, MULTIPLE TIMES A
01:33:52 DAY.
01:33:53 WE ARE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION WITH THIS VARIANT
01:33:56 AND WHAT JOHN HOPKINS LIKES TO CALL VARIANTS OF INTEREST,
01:34:02 WHICH ARE THOSE VARIANTS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR BEYOND THE
01:34:04 DELTA VARIANT.
01:34:05 AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, EXTERNALLY, JUST IN ONE
01:34:09 WEEK, SOME OF THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN
01:34:12 THE COVID COMMUNITY NATIONWIDE, SO WE HAVE A GOOD COMPARISON
01:34:16 IN THE STATE AND AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AGAINST THE NATION, WE
01:34:21 ARE 650% ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE HERE IN OUR COUNTY,
01:34:27 LOOKING AT JUST ONE PORTION OF SURVEILLANCE THROUGH THE
01:34:29 WASTEWATER SYSTEMS WITH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
01:34:33 SURVEILLANCE.
01:34:34 THAT'S ALARMING.
01:34:35 IF YOU TAKE THAT DATA AND EXTRAPOLATE IT INTO THE HOSPITALS,
01:34:39 WE KNOW FROM TALKING TO HOSPITAL STAFF, AND CHIEF TRIPP CAN
01:34:43 UPDATE YOU ON SOME OF THAT, THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS ARE
01:34:47 COMPLETELY STRUGGLING WITH CARE MANAGEMENT.
01:34:51 THEY ARE WAITING ON THE ENTRANCE RAMPS.
01:34:53 THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON WITH THE HOSPITAL.
01:34:56 I CAN GIVE YOU ALL KINDS OF REPORTS ABOUT HOW THEY ARE
01:34:59 PRIORITIZING, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO CHIEF TRIPP.
01:35:01 AND NOW WHAT CHIEF TRIPP CAN DO IS TELL YOU WHAT IS
01:35:05 HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS TESTING AND VACCINATION
01:35:09 SITES.
01:35:10 AND THEN WHAT WE WILL DO IS WHEN CHIEF TRIPP IS DONE, I'LL
01:35:13 PIVOT AND TALK ABOUT THE RECENTLY INTRODUCED POLICY UNDER
01:35:16 THESE CONDITIONS BY MAYOR CASTOR AND OUR ATTEMPT TO PROTECT
01:35:20 OUR EMPLOYEES AND KEEP OUR SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE GOING
01:35:23 FORWARD.
01:35:23 SO, CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE
01:35:26 COMMUNITY?
01:35:27 >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:35:30 CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
01:35:33 TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY,
01:35:37 AL LOPEZ WE HAVE AS A TESTING SITE.
01:35:40 WE HAVE AT LEAST TESTED OVER 16,000 INDIVIDUALS SINCE AUGUST
01:35:44 10.
01:35:45 AL BARNES, WE HAVE TESTED OVER 5,000 INDIVIDUALS SINCE
01:35:51 AUGUST 16.
01:35:52 CURRENTLY, WE DO HAVE A VACCINATION SITE.
01:35:56 LEE DAVIS CLINIC IS OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND THEY ARE
01:35:59 AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO COME IN TO GET THE
01:36:02 VACCINATION.
01:36:03 AT THE CURRENT TIME, THEY DO HAVE PFIZER AND MODERNA.
01:36:11 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
01:36:12 CHIEF, REMIND ME, ALL THE VACCINES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF ARE
01:36:14 FREE OF CHARGE, CORRECT, TO THE COMMUNITY?
01:36:16 >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, SIR, THAT IS CORRECT.
01:36:17 ALL THE VACCINES AND THE TESTING ARE FREE TO THE COMMUNITY.
01:36:22 >>JOHN BENNETT: I KNOW YOUR OFFICE AND MS. OCEA WYNN'S
01:36:27 OFFICE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE
01:36:30 POP-UP SITES AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO VACCINATE.
01:36:34 AND WHEN WE HEAR FROM THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, WHAT WE ARE
01:36:37 HEARING IS THAT REALLY, IF WE CAN ACCELERATE THE VACCINATION
01:36:41 RATE, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR BEST CHANCE OF OVERCOMING THIS
01:36:44 AND ANY FUTURE VARIANTS, IS THAT CORRECT?
01:36:46 >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT IS CORRECT.
01:36:47 WE ALSO HAVE PARTNERED UP WITH TAMPA SPORTS AUTHORITY, AND
01:36:51 WE DO HAVE A POP-UP SITE THAT WOULD BE PRESENT AT THE
01:36:54 PRESEASON GAMES AS WELL AS THE SEASONAL --
01:37:01 >>JOHN BENNETT: BEFORE I GET INTO THIS OTHER POLICY,
01:37:03 CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE
01:37:06 TRYING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT?
01:37:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
01:37:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:37:21 THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT AND CHIEF TRIPP.
01:37:23 JOHN, WE USED TO GET THOSE DAILY UPDATES WITH THE CHARTS AND
01:37:29 THE GRAPHS AND ALL THAT, AND THEY WERE EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND
01:37:33 WE COULD DISSEMINATE THOSE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
01:37:37 I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE STILL GETTING THOSE, AND IF NOT, WHY
01:37:41 NOT?
01:37:43 >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
01:37:44 I'LL LET CHIEF TRIPP ELABORATE, BUT IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING
01:37:47 THAT WHEN THE STATE -- YOU KNOW, THERE IS A FEDERAL
01:37:51 EMERGENCY, A STATE EMERGENCY, AND A LOCAL EMERGENCY.
01:37:54 BUT WHEN THE STATE EMERGENCY ORDER IS SUBSIDED, THAT DATA
01:37:59 EITHER TRICKLED DOWN TO NOTHING OR ONCE A WEEK, AND IT'S
01:38:03 HARD FOR US TO ACTUALLY GET IT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT SITES
01:38:06 THAT WE WERE DOING AND COMPILE IT INTO A REPORT.
01:38:09 BUT I'LL TALK TO CHIEF TRIPP, AND WE HAVE A STAFF MEETING IN
01:38:12 THE MORNING.
01:38:13 AND I THINK AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE MAY TRY AND ASSEMBLE
01:38:16 SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISSEMINATE TO KEEP TABS ON THE
01:38:20 DIFFERENT DATA POINTS THAT WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO.
01:38:22 CHIEF, AM I CLOSE WITH THAT?
01:38:24 >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT IS CORRECT.
01:38:25 SINCE THE STATE HAS CLOSED DOWN THE INFORMATION SHARING, WE
01:38:29 ONLY GET THE INFORMATION ONCE A WEEK, USUALLY LATE THURSDAY
01:38:33 OR FRIDAY, AND WE GET INFORMATION THROUGH THE EM DEPARTMENT,
01:38:38 SO WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THAT INFORMATION AND PASS IT ON AS
01:38:41 NEEDED.
01:38:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THAT.
01:38:46 I HAD A FEELING THAT THAT WAS -- THAT THE STATE WAS THE
01:38:50 CULPRIT, BUT WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU ALL GET, WHETHER OR
01:38:53 NOT IT'S DAILY OR WEEKLY, I'M SURE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US.
01:38:56 AT LEAST WE CAN SEE WHAT THE TRENDS ARE.
01:38:58 THANK YOU.
01:39:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, YOU DID SAY THAT AL BARNES AND LOPEZ
01:39:06 WERE DOING THE TESTING.
01:39:07 ARE WE GIVING THE VACCINES THERE, TOO, AS WELL?
01:39:10 I DIDN'T HEAR THAT PORTION.
01:39:11 >>CHIEF TRIPP: NO, SIR.
01:39:12 AT AL BARNES, IT'S A DRIVE-THROUGH TESTING SITE ONLY BECAUSE
01:39:17 OF THE AREA AND LOCATION IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO DO
01:39:21 A POP-UP SITE THERE.
01:39:22 WE WENT TO THE CLOSEST LOCATION, LEE DAVIS CLINIC, WHICH IS
01:39:26 LESS THAN A MILE AWAY.
01:39:27 WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE SITE AT AL LOPEZ, BUT CURRENTLY
01:39:34 THAT IS A WALK-UP SITE TO GET THE TESTING ONLY.
01:39:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: BECAUSE I GOT A CALL ON THAT.
01:39:41 I GUESS THE WEBSITE SAID DRIVE-UP, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE
01:39:48 CALLING SAYING IT WAS WALK-UP.
01:39:49 I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE CORRECTED THAT ON THE SITE OR NOT.
01:39:50 >>CHIEF TRIPP: WALK-UP IS ONLY FOR AL LOPEZ.
01:39:54 DRIVE-THROUGH IS FOR AL BARNES.
01:39:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION.
01:39:58 A LOT OF FOLKS WERE CALLING BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT AL LOPEZ
01:40:00 WAS A DRIVE-UP, BUT APPARENTLY IT IS A WALK-UP.
01:40:05 IS THAT DISSEMINATED ON THE FLYER OR THE WEBSITE.
01:40:08 IF WE CAN CHECK TO MAKE SURE.
01:40:10 BECAUSE SOME WERE SAYING THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A DRIVE-UP
01:40:13 VERSUS YOU'RE SAYING A WALK-UP.
01:40:15 >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, SIR, I'LL CHECK INTO THAT.
01:40:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
01:40:19 CHIEF BENNETT, CONTINUE, SIR.
01:40:21 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
01:40:24 TWO MORE POINTS TO MAKE KIND OF RELATED BACK TO THE DATA.
01:40:30 WHEN WE DID THE RETURN TO WORKPLACE BACK IN EARLY JUNE BASED
01:40:35 ON EVERYTHING SUBSIDING, THE NUMBERS WERE SUBSIDING, THE
01:40:39 ORDERS WERE SUBSIDING, AND THE WORLD WAS GETTING BUSIER, SO
01:40:43 GOVERNMENT LEVELS OF SERVICE HAD TO KEEP UP WITH THE
01:40:47 COMMUNITY.
01:40:48 WE HAD -- THE FIRST FIVE WEEKS, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT DROP
01:40:52 FROM WHAT WE HAD SAW INTERNALLY FROM BACK IN THE FALL.
01:40:56 AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF
01:40:58 ALMOST A 300% DROP IN OUR INTERNAL CASES.
01:41:02 BUT THE LAST FIVE OF THOSE TEN WEEKS, WE HAD SEEN A COMPLETE
01:41:06 REVERSAL WHERE ALMOST A 200% INCREASE OF OUR PERSONNEL HAVE
01:41:12 EITHER BEEN QUARANTINED OR SHOWN POSITIVE.
01:41:16 A FEW OF THOSE CASES OF WHAT WE CALL THE BREAKTHROUGH CASES
01:41:19 WHERE SOMEBODY IS FULLY VACCINATED YET THEY HAD GOTTEN
01:41:23 COVID, AND THANK GOODNESS, BECAUSE OF THE VACCINATION, IT
01:41:26 APPEARS THAT THEY HAVE RECOVERED FAIRLY QUICKLY.
01:41:29 I WANT TO MAKE A JOHN HOPKINS, AGAIN, WE GET ON THESE
01:41:34 WEBINARS CONSTANTLY ABOUT THE STATE OF THE COVID-19
01:41:38 NATIONWIDE, GLOBALLY, AS WELL AS THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY.
01:41:42 AND THE ONE -- THE DOCTORS THAT LEAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS TEND
01:41:45 TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE PROPHYLACTICS BEING IN TWO PARTS.
01:41:51 ONE IS THE VACCINE AND THE OTHER IS THE MASK.
01:41:54 AND THE METAPHOR, THE ANALOGIES THAT THEY USE IS KIND OF
01:41:57 LIKE BEING OUT IN THE RAIN.
01:41:59 IF YOU ARE VACCINATED, IT'S LIKE HAVING AN UMBRELLA.
01:42:03 MOST LIKELY YOU'LL GET JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A SPLASH ON YOU
01:42:06 AND YOU WON'T GET FULLY WET.
01:42:09 BUT IF YOU HAVE AN UMBRELLA AND A RAINCOAT, THE ODDS OF YOU
01:42:14 GETTING WET AT ALL ARE ALMOST SLIM TO NONE.
01:42:17 THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE FULLY VACCINATED AND WEAR A MASK, THEY
01:42:20 HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF RISK OF CONTRACTING COVID AND, OF
01:42:23 COURSE, THE VARIANTS AND MAYBE THE VARIANTS OF INTEREST THAT
01:42:27 ARE SURFACING AROUND THE GLOBE.
01:42:30 SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET
01:42:33 VACCINATED.
01:42:35 OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH THE NEW POLICY.
01:42:37 I KNOW COUNCIL SAW IT AT THE SAME TIME AS OUR STAFF BECAUSE
01:42:40 EVERYTHING IS VERY DYNAMIC.
01:42:43 WITH 4700 EMPLOYEES, ABOUT 20% OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE
01:42:48 NON-BARGAINING, ABOUT 80% ARE IN FOR THE DIFFERENT
01:42:53 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
01:42:54 THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE THAT HAS TO BE WORKED THROUGH FOR
01:42:58 IMPLEMENTATION.
01:42:59 WE'VE HAD TWO INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS SO FAR.
01:43:02 TUESDAY NIGHT, THE MAYOR PUT OUT A LETTER OF INFORMATION TO
01:43:06 ALL EMPLOYEES ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE VACCINE WAS COMING ON
01:43:12 WEDNESDAY, AND THEN FROM THERE, THIS MORNING, PUT OUT
01:43:16 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THE POLICY WILL BE IMPLEMENTED, AND
01:43:20 WE'RE WORKING ON THAT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
01:43:22 WE HAVE APPOINTMENTS WITH ALL OF THE UNIONS AS OF TOMORROW.
01:43:25 THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONCEPT.
01:43:28 THEY WERE PART OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT.
01:43:29 THE MAYOR MADE SURE THAT WE TALKED TO THEM ON THE FRONT END
01:43:33 OF TRYING TO PUT THIS CONCEPT TOGETHER, BUT THE SPIRIT OF
01:43:37 THE ENTIRE POLICY IS TO PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES AND PROTECT
01:43:41 THEIR LOVED ONES, DEPENDENTS, AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND AT THE
01:43:45 SAME TIME KEEP UP A LEVEL OF SERVICE OF A SOCIETY THAT'S
01:43:48 RUNNING WIDE OPEN.
01:43:50 SCHOOLS ARE BACK IN.
01:43:51 IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE WERE TELEWORKING AND THE
01:43:54 WORLD WAS FAIRLY DORMANT BACK IN THE EARLY STAGES OF COVID.
01:43:58 SO I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP THESE LEVELS OF SERVICE AND PROTECT
01:44:01 THE EMPLOYEES AND THEIR LOVED ONES, FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE
01:44:04 THE MOST PARAMOUNT TWO PEGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
01:44:07 AND WE WILL KEEP COUNCIL POSTED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
01:44:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
01:44:14 ANY QUESTIONS?
01:44:18 OKAY, CHIEF, IF NOTHING ELSE -- PRESENTATION.
01:44:29 >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
01:44:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, NOTE THAT COUNCILMAN
01:44:35 VIERA HAS ARRIVED.
01:44:37 MR. SHELBY, YOU ASKED ME IN REFERENCE TO MOVING AN ITEM FOR
01:44:43 MR. VIERA, IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
01:44:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
01:44:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHICH ITEM IS THAT AGAIN, SIR?
01:44:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 105.
01:44:52 >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I SPOKE TO YOU
01:44:56 ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND.
01:44:57 I NEED TO GO TO THE DOCTOR FOR SOMETHING.
01:45:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE KNOW.
01:45:04 >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHY.
01:45:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S DO ITEM 105 SO MR. VIERA CAN TAKE
01:45:09 CARE OF PERSONAL BUSINESS.
01:45:21 >>LUIS VIERA: FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE HAVE A LONG DAY.
01:45:24 I THINK THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
01:45:28 IT IS TO ME A RELEVANT ISSUE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE
01:45:32 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN FLORIDA AND THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
01:45:36 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY REFUGEES COME FROM AFGHANISTAN.
01:45:40 IN 2015, WE ENCOUNTERED A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE WE HAD
01:45:44 SYRIAN REFUGEES WHO WERE COMING TO THE TAMPA AREA.
01:45:47 THERE WAS SOME DISPUTE BACK THEN WITH THE GOVERNOR THAT I
01:45:49 HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TODAY WHERE THE GOVERNOR, AT THE TIME
01:45:54 RICK SCOTT, WASN'T GOING TO ALLOW REFUGEES TO COME IN.
01:45:56 BUT MAYORS BUCKHORN AND KRISEMAN SAID THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW
01:46:00 THESE INDIVIDUALS TO BE WELCOMED IN OUR CITY.
01:46:03 AGAIN, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT KIND OF AN ISSUE WITHOUT
01:46:07 GOING ON ABOUT IT.
01:46:08 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THIS FOR TWO REASONS.
01:46:11 NUMBER ONE, TO SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE A WELCOMING ATTITUDE AS
01:46:14 A CITY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE REFUGEES.
01:46:17 AND NUMBER TWO, THAT WE AS PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND AS A CITY
01:46:20 ARE GOING TO HELP TO ORGANIZE THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS IN
01:46:24 THE COMMUNITY, THE RELIGIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, THE CIVIC AND
01:46:27 CHARITABLE STAKEHOLDERS THAT CAN DO SUCH A TREMENDOUS JOB IN
01:46:31 TERMS OF WELCOMING THESE AFGHAN REFUGEES HERE.
01:46:33 FOR ME, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE BECAUSE MY PARENTS AND
01:46:36 GRANDPARENTS AND GREAT GRANDMOTHER WERE CUBAN REFUGEES.
01:46:38 WE CAME HERE IN 1960.
01:46:40 AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT THE LEVEL OF COMPASSION THAT WE
01:46:45 EXPERIENCED ON SO MANY ACCOUNTS 60 YEARS AGO SHOULD STILL BE
01:46:49 AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE TODAY.
01:46:51 AND THAT'S KIND OF SOMETHING THAT WE OFTEN SEE IS THAT A LOT
01:46:54 OF FOLKS USE A METHOD OR CLIMB A LADDER, I GUESS, IF YOU
01:46:59 WILL, AS, FOR EXAMPLE, REFUGEE, 50, 60, 70, WHATEVER YEARS
01:47:02 AGO, AND THEN WE TEND TO FORGET WHERE WE COME FROM.
01:47:05 AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS AMERICANS THAT WE
01:47:08 REALLY CAN'T DO IS FORGET WHERE WE COME FROM, ESPECIALLY ON
01:47:12 THIS ISSUE.
01:47:12 WE KNOW THAT OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE SEEN A 90%
01:47:15 REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF REFUGEES IN THE UNITED STATES,
01:47:18 AND SO WON'T GET INTO THAT, A LOT OF CONTROVERSY THERE,
01:47:22 OBVIOUSLY.
01:47:22 BUT AGAIN, THIS IS TO ME A MATTER OF OUR BEST AMERICAN
01:47:25 VALUES BEING REFLECTED FOR THESE REFUGEES.
01:47:28 I THINK THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE ON THIS, ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM
01:47:31 AFGHANISTAN, I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO
01:47:34 THEM.
01:47:34 AND WE'VE ALSO SPOKEN TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VETERANS
01:47:38 FOR WHOM THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE SO MANY OF THESE
01:47:40 PEOPLE HELP THE AMERICAN MISSION.
01:47:42 SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT A WELCOME-IN CULTURE HERE IN TAMPA.
01:47:47 I DON'T THINK THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL AT ALL.
01:47:48 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
01:47:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
01:47:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT AND ECHO THE
01:47:54 COMMENTS OF COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:47:56 YOU KNOW, HE AND I ARE BOTH CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANTS.
01:47:59 WE'RE FIRST-GENERATION AMERICANS.
01:48:01 IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE CITY --
01:48:05 THE FOUNDATION OF THE CITY IS BUILT BY IMMIGRANTS, BUILT BY
01:48:08 PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
01:48:10 THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF WHO WE ARE.
01:48:13 WE'RE OPEN AND WELCOMING TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE.
01:48:18 I'M GLAD HE BROUGHT THIS UP.
01:48:19 I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT.
01:48:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
01:48:21 MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
01:48:24 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND MAYBE A
01:48:27 QUESTION.
01:48:28 NUMBER ONE, MY FAMILY IS IMMIGRANTS, TOO, GOING BACK TO THE
01:48:33 1800s, THEY CAME FOR ECONOMIC FREEDOM FROM AN -- AND
01:48:37 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FROM SWEDEN.
01:48:39 BUT WE ARE A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS, AND WE NEED TO BE
01:48:42 WELCOMING OF IMMIGRANTS AND TAMPA IN PARTICULAR NEEDS TO BE
01:48:45 WELCOMING.
01:48:45 WE HAVE A LARGE MUSLIM AND ARAB COMMUNITY HERE.
01:48:48 AND WE IN PARTICULAR NEED TO MAKE SURE WE WORK WITH THE
01:48:51 COMMUNITY THERE TO WELCOME FOLKS COMING IN.
01:48:53 AS WAS SAID, WE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF ALL THE SERVICE
01:48:57 PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY AROUND CENTCOM AND MacDILL THAT HAVE
01:49:01 SACRIFICED A LOT TO HELP THE SITUATION IN AFGHANISTAN AND
01:49:05 OTHER PLACES.
01:49:06 THAT BEING SAID, I'VE ALSO GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS IN THE LAST
01:49:11 FEW DAYS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND OTHERS FRUSTRATED
01:49:14 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES INSTEAD OF
01:49:19 FOCUSING OUR LIMITED TIME ON CITY ISSUES.
01:49:23 SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.
01:49:25 I HAVE AN OPINION ON ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY AND THERE ARE
01:49:29 HORRIFIC HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATIONS GOING ON.
01:49:30 I JUST WATCHED THE MOVIE "THE DISSIDENT" THE OTHER DAY ABOUT
01:49:35 THE WASHINGTON POST COLUMNIST WHO WAS MURDERED IN THE SAUDI
01:49:41 EMBASSY IN TURKEY.
01:49:43 HORRIFIC THINGS HAVE GONE ON.
01:49:47 WE AGREE WITH THE HEART AND SPIRIT OF THIS.
01:49:53 AS WE GO FORWARD, WE NEED TO DECIDE HOW MUCH WE GET INTO
01:49:56 FOREIGN POLICY.
01:49:58 IF WE GET INTO FOREIGN POLICY IN A BIG WAY, I HAVE A LOT OF
01:50:02 IDEAS RELATED TO FOREIGN POLICY ALSO.
01:50:04 THE OTHER THING, THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY REACHED OUT TO US AND
01:50:07 IN PARTICULAR AN E-MAIL THEY SAID SOMETHING -- I THINK THAT
01:50:11 SIMILAR TO THE CUBA RESOLUTION, THIS IS REALLY LONG.
01:50:15 THE CUBA RESOLUTION, QUOTES FROM JOSE MARTI, THIS ONE HAS
01:50:19 GEORGE WASHINGTON AND THOMAS PAINE, I THINK WE COULD SIMPLY
01:50:22 SAY WE SUPPORT AND WELCOME REFUGEES COMING FROM WHATEVER
01:50:25 COUNTRY, BUT IN PARTICULAR FROM AFGHANISTAN, IF WE WANT.
01:50:29 BUT THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY WENT THROUGH LINE BY LINE AND GAVE
01:50:35 US SPECIFIC FEEDBACK ON WHAT'S IN IT.
01:50:37 THEY WANT US TO ADD MORE ACTION AND SUBSTANCE.
01:50:40 SOME OF IT WE CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S FEDERAL POLICY.
01:50:42 BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE MAKER OF THE MOTION
01:50:44 WOULD LIKE TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY.
01:50:47 IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO POINT OUT THEY FELT THERE WAS
01:50:50 CERTAIN WORDS DEROGATORY, INFLAMMATORY THAT THEY WANTED TO
01:50:54 TAKE OUT, SUCH AS THE WORD "TERROR."
01:50:57 THIS WAS IN AN E-MAIL THAT I THINK WENT TO ALL OF US.
01:50:59 I'M CURIOUS TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS PLANS TO TAKE THAT OUT.
01:51:03 THANK YOU.
01:51:05 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I RESPOND?
01:51:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, LET ME SEE IF ANYBODY HAS
01:51:09 ANYTHING THAT I'LL LET YOU REBUT.
01:51:11 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION MOTION AT THIS TIME?
01:51:14 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
01:51:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:51:20 MR. VIERA, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS ONE FORWARD.
01:51:25 I'VE BEEN ON RECORD AS SAYING KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT BILL
01:51:30 SAID A MINUTE AGO ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER CONSTITUENTS.
01:51:38 I THINK WE SHOULD TRY AND STAY LOCAL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
01:51:42 I THINK YOU AND I PHILOSOPHICALLY AND POLITICALLY ARE VERY
01:51:45 MUCH ALIGNED, AND WE CAN HAVE LUNCH AND AGREE ON 99% OF
01:51:51 EVERYTHING OUT THERE IN THE WORLD.
01:51:53 BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WERE ELECTED FOR, WHAT PEOPLE
01:51:57 ELECTED US TO DO, THIS 101 ITEM AGENDA OF LOCAL ISSUES.
01:52:03 HOWEVER, HAVING SAID THAT, IN THE BIG PICTURE, I TOTALLY
01:52:09 AGREE WITH YOU, LUIS.
01:52:14 IT REMINDS ME WHEN I WAS GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL AND OUR
01:52:16 COUNTRY WAS LEAVING VIETNAM.
01:52:17 MR. SHELBY AND I ARE ABOUT THE SAME AGE.
01:52:20 MR. CITRO, WE ALL REMEMBER -- [ENCODER DROP]
01:52:29 -- AGREE WITH YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, SEND A MESSAGE THAT TAMPA
01:52:50 IS A WELCOMING PLACE.
01:52:52 I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE RIGHTS OR WRONGS OF WHY WE
01:52:55 WERE THERE FOR 20 YEARS, BUT WE WERE.
01:52:59 AND THE FACT THAT WE WERE, WE HAD A LOT OF LOCAL AFGHANIS
01:53:05 WHO WERE FRIENDS OF AMERICA DURING THAT 20-YEAR PERIOD, AND
01:53:09 WE CAN'T ABANDON THEM NOW.
01:53:12 ON THIS ONE, LUIS, YOU HAVE MY WHOLEHEARTED SUPPORT.
01:53:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE MR. VIERA REBUTS?
01:53:19 MR. VIERA, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
01:53:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:53:21 I APPRECIATE THE WORDS, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
01:53:24 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, A COUPLE OF THINGS, AGAIN, THERE IS A
01:53:27 MISCHARACTERIZATION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S INTENTIONAL OF
01:53:31 WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE.
01:53:32 THE LAST TIME I WAS TOLD THAT A RESOLUTION THIS BODY WAS
01:53:35 PASSING WAS SOMEHOW SETTING US UP TO GO TO WAR WITH CUBA.
01:53:39 I FIND COUNCILMAN CARLSON -- NUMBER ONE, WE'RE NOT DEALING
01:53:42 WITH FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES.
01:53:44 THIS IS SOMETHING ABOUT REFUGEES WHO ARE GOING TO BE COMING.
01:53:46 WE'RE NOT SAYING DO SOMETHING IN AFGHANISTAN, ET CETERA.
01:53:49 THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE COMING HERE.
01:53:51 IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE WELCOMING TO THEM.
01:53:53 THAT IS PART OF WHO WE ARE AS A CITY.
01:53:56 AND TO TAKE FIVE MINUTES OUT AND TO EXPRESS THAT IN A
01:53:59 RESOLUTION, I DON'T THINK IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE
01:54:02 SHOULD BE DOING.
01:54:02 FRANKLY, AGAIN, I FIND IT VERY IRONIC BECAUSE ONE OF THE
01:54:05 FIRST THINGS DONE IN THIS NEW COUNCIL WAS DO A RESOLUTION ON
01:54:09 TRAVEL WITH CUBA AFTER THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP SOUGHT TO
01:54:14 IMPLEMENT ON SIGNIFICANT FOREIGN POLICY CHANGES ON TRAVEL
01:54:16 WITH CUBA, THAT WAS A RESOLUTION THAT PASSED 7-0 AND A
01:54:19 RESOLUTION THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON GAVE TO THE AMBASSADOR
01:54:22 FROM CUBA, FROM CUBA.
01:54:25 I'M NOT LOOKING AT DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
01:54:27 THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE LOCAL ISSUE WHICH IS WHETHER OR NOT WE
01:54:30 ARE GOING TO BE WELCOMING REFUGEES HERE.
01:54:33 I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE, FRANKLY, THAT IS A FOREIGN
01:54:37 POLICY ISSUE.
01:54:38 I DON'T DEAL WITH FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES, ET CETERA.
01:54:40 FOR ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS 110% LOCAL.
01:54:44 IT DEFINES OUR VALUES AND WHO WE ARE GOING TO BE AS A CITY.
01:54:47 IF SOMEBODY SAYS THAT IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE, I WOULD
01:54:50 RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
01:54:51 I'VE GIVEN OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DEAL WITH ISSUES, LIKE,
01:54:54 FOR EXAMPLE, TRAVEL TO CUBA SOME RESPECTFUL, PROFESSIONAL
01:54:58 DEFERENCE ON THAT.
01:55:00 THIS ISSUE HERE IS VERY PERSONAL.
01:55:02 I HAVE DISTRICT 7 THAT INCLUDES MANY, MANY REFUGEES FROM
01:55:06 PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN, LIKE SYRIA, AND THIS ISSUE AS IT
01:55:10 APPLIES TO WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL HAVE A WELCOMING COMMUNITY
01:55:13 HERE IN TAMPA IS VERY RELEVANT.
01:55:14 LET'S NOT FORGET THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHEN I WAS
01:55:17 FIRST ELECTED, WE HAD SUCH A SIGNIFICANT HATE CRIME HERE IN
01:55:20 THE CITY OF TAMPA WHEN THE NEW TAMPA MOSQUE WAS ATTACKED AND
01:55:24 FIREBOMBED OFF OF MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD.
01:55:28 THESE ARE THE KINDS OF ISSUES OF TOLERANCE AND WELCOMING OF
01:55:32 REFUGEES THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS GOT TO TAKE A STAND FOR.
01:55:35 I SAID THAT AS A PROUD SON OF REFUGEES.
01:55:37 THIS IS NOT A FOREIGN POLICY ISSUE.
01:55:39 THIS IS AS LOCAL AS IT GETS BECAUSE IF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
01:55:43 NOT GOING TO TAKE A FORMALLY WELCOMING ATTITUDE ON PEOPLE
01:55:46 COMING HERE AS REFUGEES, AND THESE ARE REFUGEES.
01:55:48 THESE ARE NOT ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS.
01:55:51 THESE ARE REFUGEES.
01:55:53 THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS A LOCAL ISSUE.
01:55:55 AGAIN, LIKE BEFORE, I THOUGHT WE'D SPEND ONE OR TWO MINUTES
01:55:58 ON THIS, AND WE'RE GOING FURTHER ON SOMETHING THAT WE
01:56:02 SHOULDN'T GO FURTHER ON.
01:56:03 MY REMARKS.
01:56:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I LET BOTH OF YOU SPEAK.
01:56:08 MR. CARLSON WANTS TO REBUT.
01:56:10 AFTER THAT, WE'LL BRING IT IN FOR A LANDING.
01:56:14 THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, WHETHER IT REGARDS FOREIGN
01:56:17 POLICY, THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T GET INTO FOREIGN POLICY.
01:56:19 WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OF FOREIGN POLICY, BUT WE DO HAVE THE
01:56:22 RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT A CITY THAT IS WELCOMING.
01:56:25 MR. CARLSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
01:56:26 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
01:56:27 >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, I
01:56:30 APPRECIATE THE INTENT AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE IDEA
01:56:37 AND FOCUS OF BEING A WELCOMING COMMUNITY.
01:56:40 I'VE BEEN TO 10 OR 15 MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN
01:56:46 WELCOMING THERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECIPROCATE AND MAKE
01:56:49 SURE EVERYBODY WHO COMES HERE FEELS WELCOME, IMMIGRANTS AND
01:56:52 REFUGEES, PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT RELIGIONS AND COUNTRIES.
01:56:56 MY CONCERN WHICH WAS SIMILAR TO LAST TIME, AS I REMEMBER,
01:57:02 THIS IS LIKE A THREE-PAGE RESOLUTION.
01:57:04 IT DOESN'T SIMPLY SAY WE WANT TO WELCOME REFUGEES.
01:57:07 IT HAS ALL KINDS OF OTHER EXTRANEOUS LANGUAGE.
01:57:10 I DON'T OBJECT TO THE INTENT.
01:57:10 I DIDN'T OBJECT TO THE INTENT LAST TIME.
01:57:12 I OBJECTED TO THE OTHER EXTRANEOUS LANGUAGE WHICH HAS OTHER
01:57:17 MEANINGS THAT I THINK BORDERS ON FOREIGN POLICY IF NOT
01:57:20 STEPPING INTO IT.
01:57:21 BUT THE QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERED, ONE OF THE
01:57:25 UMBRELLA MUSLIM ORGANIZATIONS E-MAILED US ALL AND ASKED US
01:57:30 SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE CERTAIN OFFENSIVE WORDS OUT OF THIS.
01:57:34 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A NEW DRAFT OR NOT, BUT SET ASIDE
01:57:40 THE OTHER DISCUSSION, ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE SPECIFICALLY --
01:57:45 THE GROUPS REPRESENTING LARGE NUMBERS OF ISLAMIC POPULATION
01:57:49 IN TAMPA WANT US TO TAKE CERTAIN WORDS OUT, AND THEY WOULD
01:57:52 LIKE US TO PUT CERTAIN THINGS IN.
01:57:55 MY ONLY QUESTION IS, ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THOSE OUT AND PUT
01:57:58 THOSE IN OR VOTE ON IT AS-IS?
01:58:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE MUSLIM
01:58:04 GROUPS THIS MORNING DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WHO ARE
01:58:08 REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GROUP.
01:58:09 I DON'T KNOW WHAT E-MAILS YOU ARE REFERRING.
01:58:11 MDF THAT WAS HERE THIS MORNING.
01:58:16 CAIR.
01:58:17 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT IT.
01:58:21 THIS IS AN E-MAIL FROM MDF LAST NIGHT.
01:58:23 EVERYBODY GOT IT.
01:58:24 CARA IS PART OF MDF.
01:58:26 THE FIRST LINE IN WHAT THEY SAY, I CAN'T REMEMBER IT WORD
01:58:33 FOR WORD, WE THE UNDERSIGNED ORGANIZATIONS WOULD LIKE TO
01:58:35 THANK COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA FOR HIS INITIATIVE AND PROPOSED
01:58:40 AFGHAN REFUGEE RESOLUTION.
01:58:41 WE ARE WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION AND WOULD
01:58:44 LIKE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE IN FAVOR.
01:58:46 ALSO PROPOSE THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION.
01:58:47 NUMBER ONE, PLEASE AVOID USING LANGUAGE THAT MAY OFFEND OR
01:58:50 ALIENATE GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS.
01:58:51 THIS INCLUDES THE OVERUSE OF THE WORD TERROR OR PHRASES LIKE
01:58:55 ALL GOOD AMERICANS WHICH CAN CREATE UNNECESSARY DIVISION.
01:58:57 NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE THE POPULATION OF AFGHANISTAN IS 99.7%
01:59:01 MUSLIM, PLEASE ENSURE THAT LOCAL EFFORTS TO AID INCOMING
01:59:06 REFUGEES ARE LED BY LOCAL MUSLIM AGENCIES.
01:59:09 IT LISTS THEM.
01:59:10 AND THEN THERE ARE FOUR OTHER POINTS.
01:59:12 I THINK THOSE OTHER FOUR ARE MOSTLY FEDERAL ISSUES, BUT WHAT
01:59:17 THEIR POINT WITH THE OTHER FOUR IS TO TRY TO ADD MORE MEAT
01:59:20 OR SUBSTANCE INTO IT BESIDES JUST BEING A GENERAL WELCOME.
01:59:23 MY QUESTION IS, CONSIDERING THAT THIS UMBRELLA GROUP OF MANY
01:59:27 MUSLIM GROUPS ASKED US TO DO THESE THINGS, ARE WE GOING TO
01:59:31 EDIT IT OR VOTE ON IT AS-IS?
01:59:33 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I RESPOND TO THIS?
01:59:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
01:59:38 THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
01:59:39 WE'VE HAD TWO REBUTS.
01:59:40 NOW, THE MAKER OF THE RESOLUTION, WHICH WOULD BE MR. VIERA,
01:59:45 IF HE CHOOSES TO WANT TO CHANGE OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER
01:59:49 WHO WANTS TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO HIS RESOLUTION, WITH HIM
01:59:54 CONSENTING, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THEM.
01:59:56 BEFORE I EVEN GET TO MR. VIERA, IS THERE ANY OTHER
01:59:59 COUNCILMAN THAT IS LOOKING TO AMEND ANY OF THE WORDING IN
02:00:01 THE CURRENT RESOLUTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR?
02:00:03 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:00:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO, MR. VIERA, TO TRY AND MAKE THIS AS
02:00:12 UNCONTROVERSIAL AS POSSIBLE AND TO PERHAPS GET A UNANIMOUS
02:00:19 VOTE ON THIS COUNCIL, IF WE STRUCK THE WORDS "FLEEING
02:00:24 PROSECUTION AND TERROR," I THINK THE MESSAGE IS STILL THE
02:00:29 SAME.
02:00:29 BECAUSE IT WOULD READ AND I'M READING OFF THE AGENDA, BUT I
02:00:32 ASSUME IT IS THE SAME IN THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION.
02:00:34 IT WOULD THEN READ, EXPRESSING UNEQUIVOCAL SUPPORT OF
02:00:38 WELCOMING AFGHAN REFUGEES, STRIKE THOSE WORDS, FLEEING
02:00:42 PROSECUTION AND TERROR, AND THEN IT WOULD PICK UP REFUGEES
02:00:45 INTO OUR INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY.
02:00:47 SO IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT
02:00:55 STRIKING THOSE FOUR WORDS?
02:00:56 >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I?
02:00:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME GET MR. MIRANDA AND WE'LL CLEAN IT
02:01:01 ALL UP.
02:01:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF SOMEBODY, I DON'T
02:01:07 CARE WHO THEY ARE, PUTS SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN WRITING, AND
02:01:10 IF SOMEBODY OBJECTS TO IT, WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE?
02:01:16 THERE IS TERROR IN AFGHANISTAN.
02:01:18 THERE IS KILLING IN AFGHANISTAN.
02:01:19 IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THEN HOW COME WE LOST SO MANY
02:01:25 PEOPLE DYING FOR THEIR BLOOD.
02:01:26 THE LADY WHO WAS HERE I GET SO EXCITED ABOUT THESE THINGS
02:01:35 BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS OBJECTING TO THE WORD TERROR.
02:01:37 IF THERE HASN'T BEEN TERROR IN AFGHANISTAN, I HAVE LONG
02:01:41 HAIR.
02:01:41 I'M NOT ON EITHER SIDE HERE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW
02:01:46 WHAT, THESE THINGS HAVE GOT TO EITHER END OR DISSECT EVERY
02:01:51 WORD ON A RESOLUTION, ALL IT MEANS, FORGET ALL THESE PAGES.
02:01:54 ALL IT MEANS IS YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO TAMPA, BE A NICE
02:01:58 PERSON, ENJOY YOURSELF AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY WE'RE NOT
02:02:01 GOING TO DISCREDIT AGAINST YOU.
02:02:03 IN ESSENCE, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
02:02:04 WHETHER THIS ONE OR ANY OTHER ONE WE HAVE TO DISSECT
02:02:10 EVERYTHING THAT COMES HERE UNTIL SOMEBODY -- I DON'T GIVE A
02:02:15 DAMN WHO CALLS.
02:02:16 IT'S EITHER YES OR NO.
02:02:17 I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 7, 6-1, AS LONG AS 4-3, ONE WAY OR THE
02:02:22 OTHER.
02:02:23 I'M NOT HERE TO HAVE ANYTHING PASSED 7-0.
02:02:25 I DON'T PLAY THAT GAME.
02:02:26 THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
02:02:36 >>LUIS VIERA: BRING IT FOR A LANDING LIKE YOU SAID.
02:02:38 I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH SOME FOLKS ON THAT ISSUE.
02:02:40 I ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH ISLAMIC AND
02:02:45 OTHER LEADERS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP,
02:02:48 ET CETERA, ON THE ISSUE OF GOOD AMERICANS AND WHAT THAT
02:02:52 MEANS, THAT MEANS THAT GOOD AMERICANS REJECT BIGOTRY AND
02:02:56 SUPPORT REFUGEES.
02:02:57 I DON'T THINK THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL.
02:02:58 ON THE ISSUE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, I ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO,
02:03:04 AGAIN, I'M SORRY, BUT ON SECTION THREE OVER HERE, I WOULD
02:03:09 LIKE TO MOVE TO STRIKE THE NAMES OF ORGANIZATIONS AND JUST
02:03:13 PUT THE APPROPRIATE ORGANIZATIONS TO WELCOME REFUGEES
02:03:15 BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS AN INFERENCE MADE OR A MISTAKE
02:03:18 MADE ON THE PART OF SOME THAT SOMEHOW THAT'S THE LIST OF
02:03:23 PEOPLE -- NO, THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS AN ASPIRATION
02:03:25 THAT WE SHOULD LIVE TO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
02:03:28 WITH REGARDS TO THE ISSUE OF TERROR AND WHATNOT, I DON'T SEE
02:03:33 THE NEED TO TAKE THAT OUT.
02:03:35 I JUST RESPECTFULLY DON'T.
02:03:37 AGAIN, I'M VERY SURPRISED THIS HAS LASTED LONGER THAN ONE
02:03:43 MINUTE IN TERMS OF THE DEBATE ON THIS.
02:03:44 I'M NOT LOOKING AT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN SIMPLY SAYING
02:03:47 THE CITY OF TAMPA IS WELCOMING OF THESE REFUGEES.
02:03:56 END OF STORY.
02:03:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AT THIS POINT, WHAT I'M HEARING, YOU'RE NOT
02:04:00 INCLINED TO AMEND THE WORD TERROR FROM MR. DINGFELDER OR MR.
02:04:04 CARLSON, BUT YOU ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE ONE PORTION OF THE
02:04:06 ORGANIZATIONS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION.
02:04:08 IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
02:04:10 >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY, YES, SIR.
02:04:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:04:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR THEN, IF YOU
02:04:16 TAKE A LOOK AT THE TITLE, THE TITLE SAYS REQUESTING THAT ALL
02:04:22 LOCAL PUBLIC ENTITIES WORK WITH APPROPRIATE SOCIAL SERVICE
02:04:26 ORGANIZATIONS TO WELCOME REFUGEES.
02:04:29 DO YOU WISH TO THEN MAKE THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 3
02:04:32 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE TITLE THEN?
02:04:36 >>LUIS VIERA: CERTAINLY.
02:04:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN THE WAY I READ SECTION 3, AND SO
02:04:43 MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO WELCOME REFUGEES.
02:04:44 I'M NOT THE WRITER, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IF I WAS WRITING, I
02:04:48 MIGHT HAVE USED ONE OR TWO AS REFERENCE TO WHAT YOU CAN
02:04:51 HAVE.
02:04:52 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY --
02:04:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:04:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY ESPECIALLY FOR ANYBODY
02:05:00 WATCHING OR WHO TUNED IN, THE LIST THAT I READ OFF CAME
02:05:04 STRAIGHT FROM A LIST FROM THE MUSLIM ORGANIZATION --
02:05:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE.
02:05:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT NOW I HAVE MR. SHELBY HAS CONSULTED
02:05:15 WITH MR. VIERA IN REFERENCE TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE HEADING
02:05:18 OF THE RESOLUTION TO BE EMBODY IN THE LETTER ON SECTION 3,
02:05:21 IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SHELBY?
02:05:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S WHAT MR. VIERA SEEMS TO INDICATE
02:05:25 THAT HIS REQUEST IS AS AN ACCOMMODATION.
02:05:28 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR THAT SECTION.
02:05:30 IF I MAY, BECAUSE THERE WAS A MISTAKE OR INFERENCE MADE IN
02:05:34 THAT REGARD, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
02:05:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS YOUR MOTION AT THIS TIME.
02:05:41 THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. VIERA WITH THE
02:05:43 LANGUAGE CHANGING OF THE HEADING TO BE EMBODY IN THE LETTER.
02:05:47 MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
02:05:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A QUESTION ON HOW THIS WORKS.
02:05:50 IS THAT THEN THE AMENDMENT?
02:05:55 THE SECONDER OF THAT MOTION IS?
02:05:56 AND DO YOU AGREE AS AMENDED?
02:05:59 SO THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE FLOOR NOW.
02:06:01 IT'S NOT A MOTION TO AMEND.
02:06:04 IT'S A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT AS AMENDED.
02:06:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO ACCEPT AS AMENDED.
02:06:09 MR. VIERA HAS MADE A MOTION AS AMENDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
02:06:13 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:06:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAYBE, YES.
02:06:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:06:23 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:06:26 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:06:26 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:06:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:06:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:06:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:06:33 YES, SIR.
02:06:37 YOU ARE EXCUSED.
02:06:38 WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 5 UP ON THE PLATE RIGHT NOW.
02:06:43 IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
02:06:55 I THINK THEY ARE ON FLOOR 2.
02:06:59 DELGADO.
02:07:00 MR. DINGFELDER, I BELIEVE YOU HAD THIS PULLED.
02:07:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL LET THE CHIEF GO AHEAD AND DESCRIBE
02:07:07 WHAT THE BASIC ITEM IS.
02:07:09 THEN I'LL ELABORATE WITH MY QUESTION AND COMMENT.
02:07:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF DELGADO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
02:07:14 >> RUBEN DELGADO, ASSISTANT CHIEF.
02:07:17 ITEM 5 IS THE RFP WE PUT OUT FOR OUR PSYCH EVALS THAT WE USE
02:07:21 FOR OUR PREEMPLOYMENT SCREENINGS.
02:07:23 EVERY APPLICANT THAT COMES IN THAT WE GO THROUGH THE HIRING
02:07:28 PROCESS WITH GOES THROUGH A PSYCH EVAL.
02:07:30 IT IS THE SAME COMPANY WE WILL USE FOR OUR SPECIALTY TEAM
02:07:34 APPLICATIONS, CERTAIN SPECIALTY TEAMS.
02:07:36 WE SEND THEM THROUGH THE SAME TYPE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL
02:07:40 EVALUATIONS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ISSUES WITHIN THERE AS
02:07:42 WELL.
02:07:42 AND THEN IF WE HAVE TRAUMATIC EVENTS, A POLICE SHOOTING OR
02:07:47 SOME OTHER EVENT THAT THEY HAVE TO INTERVENE AND DO SOME --
02:07:50 SOMETHING WE DEEM AS TRAGIC, WE SEND THEM TO GET EVALUATED
02:07:54 BEFORE THEY GO BACK TO THE STREET.
02:07:56 THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS FOR, AND IF YOU HAVE
02:08:00 ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.
02:08:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
02:08:11 I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS AGENDA ITEM.
02:08:15 EARLIER IN THE WEEK, WHEN YOU AND I TALKED, MY QUESTION WAS
02:08:21 WHEN DO WE USE THIS SERVICE.
02:08:26 AND THEN IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THIS BEYOND IT?
02:08:31 SO RIGHT NOW, WE USE THESE SERVICES FOR NEW HIRES -- CORRECT
02:08:35 ME IF I'M WRONG, CHIEF -- FOR NEW HIRES TO SCREEN THEM
02:08:39 PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE THE TYPE OF FOLKS
02:08:40 THAT WE WANT IN TPD.
02:08:43 I GUESS IS THIS ALSO TFR.
02:08:45 AND THEN ALSO, IF AN OFFICER OR A FIREMAN OR WOMAN IS
02:08:53 EXPOSED TO A TRAUMATIC EVENT OR IS INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING,
02:08:57 THEN THEY GO BACK INTO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICE JUST TO
02:09:00 MAKE SURE THEY ARE CLEAR, RIGHT?
02:09:02 >> CORRECT.
02:09:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STOP YOU, MR. DINGFELDER.
02:09:05 CHIEF, ARE WE STILL DOING FOR THE SAME, FITNESS FOR DUTY AS
02:09:09 WELL?
02:09:13 >> THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
02:09:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION IS AND I SORT OF ALLUDED TO
02:09:19 IT THIS MORNING WHEN WE HAD OFFICER OF THE MONTH IS CAN WE
02:09:23 EXPAND THIS PROGRAM TO HAVE REGULAR SCREENINGS FOR ALL
02:09:29 OFFICERS, AT LEAST ALL STREET OFFICERS, BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S
02:09:32 A STRESSFUL JOB, ESPECIALLY THESE PAST YEAR AND A HALF.
02:09:38 JUST MORE STRESSFUL THAN EVER, I'M SURE.
02:09:40 I CAN ONLY IMAGINE.
02:09:41 SO CAN WE EXPAND IT WHEREBY REGULAR STREET OFFICERS WOULD
02:09:47 COME IN EVERY -- I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, EVERY
02:09:52 YEAR, TWO YEARS, FOR JUST A BASIC -- A BASIC CHECKUP, JUST
02:09:57 LIKE I SAID THIS MORNING, JUST LIKE WE WANT TO GET THEIR
02:10:00 BLOOD CHECKED AND WE WANT TO GET THEIR HEART CHECKED, AND WE
02:10:04 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOOD AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
02:10:07 RUN ANYBODY OUT.
02:10:09 WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE OFFICERS ARE
02:10:12 EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY, AND THAT'S FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT AS
02:10:16 MUCH AS ANYBODY.
02:10:17 ANY RESPONSE?
02:10:22 >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:10:22 I THINK YOU GUYS HEARD THIS MORNING CORPORAL BAKER AND THE
02:10:25 PROGRAM HE WENT TO.
02:10:26 I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
02:10:28 BUT JUST TO GIVE IT KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE,
02:10:32 THIS IS -- THIS CONTRACT HERE WOULDN'T ADDRESS SOME OF THAT
02:10:36 STUFF.
02:10:36 SOME OF THE THINGS WE USE NOW THAT HELP OFFICERS IS
02:10:38 OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE EAP PROGRAM, WHERE IF THEY FEEL LIKE
02:10:41 THEY NEED TO GO TALK TO SOMEBODY, THEY CAN GO VOLUNTARY NOW
02:10:44 AND TALK TO WHOEVER THEY NEED TO TALK TO THROUGH THE
02:10:47 SERVICES THE CITY PROVIDES.
02:10:49 WHAT YOU HEARD THIS MORNING WITH OPERATION RESTORE, THAT IS
02:10:53 THROUGH THE FRANCISCAN CENTER.
02:10:55 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MAYOR CASTOR STARTED WHEN SHE WAS THE
02:10:58 CHIEF HERE FOR OFFICERS TO GO ON BASICALLY A RETREAT THAT
02:11:03 THEY GO.
02:11:03 AND THAT RIGHT NOW IS FUNDED -- WE FIND INTERNAL FUNDING FOR
02:11:06 THAT, FOR OFFICERS TO GO TO THAT AND SOMETIMES OUR
02:11:09 FOUNDATION WILL STEP UP AND OFFER SOME SEATS IN THERE IF AN
02:11:14 OFFICER REALLY WANTS TO GO TO THAT RETREAT.
02:11:16 THAT'S WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
02:11:19 HAVING SOMETHING SEVERAL YEARS BACK, WE DID THE LIVE SCAN
02:11:25 FOR THEM FOR A PHYSICAL CHECK AND OFFERED THAT.
02:11:28 IF THEY WERE WILLING TO DO THAT, WE GIVE THE ABILITY TO GET
02:11:32 PHYSICALLY CHECKED THROUGH LIFE SCAN.
02:11:35 JUST LIKE ON THE MENTAL CHECK, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,
02:11:37 THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WITH THE UNION, WITH US AND
02:11:40 OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A FUNDING SIDE THERE THAT WE WOULD HAVE
02:11:42 TO WORK THROUGH.
02:11:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, NOT TO BELABOR THIS.
02:11:47 I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF COUNCIL FEELS.
02:11:50 I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS WORTH HAVING, NOT ONLY DO I THINK
02:11:54 IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS, BUT
02:11:57 CLEARLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE TRAGICALLY, IF
02:12:03 SOMEBODY IS SORT OF SLIPPING OVER THE EDGE BUT NOBODY REALLY
02:12:07 NOTICES, THEN MAYBE A REGULAR SCREENING MIGHT CATCH SOME OF
02:12:11 THAT AND WE COULD PROVIDE HELP BEFORE ANYTHING BAD HAPPENS.
02:12:15 I'D LIKE TO MAKE A VERY FRIENDLY MOTION TO --
02:12:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S GO THROUGH DISCUSSIONS FIRST.
02:12:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE MOTION ON THE
02:12:27 FLOOR SO YOU CAN DISCUSS IT?
02:12:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO ASK THE CHIEF A FEW QUESTIONS.
02:12:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:12:32 WHATEVER YOU WANT.
02:12:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER TALKED ABOUT THE PROGRAMS.
02:12:36 NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE UNION WILL PROBABLY FIGHT WHAT
02:12:40 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO OFFICERS.
02:12:45 BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN UNDER THIS PROVISION HERE, THIS
02:12:48 RESOLUTION, THAT'S OPEN FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HR TO
02:12:53 SCRUTINIZE THAT, VERSUS AN EAP SEPARATELY.
02:12:57 WHEN YOU LOOK AT PSYCHOLOGICAL, THAT GOES TO THE POLICE
02:13:00 DEPARTMENT.
02:13:00 THEY ARE GOING TO VIEW THAT.
02:13:03 THAT IS A PRESCREENING.
02:13:05 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A FITNESS FOR DUTY, THE POLICE
02:13:07 DEPARTMENT WILL GET THAT AND REVIEW THAT.
02:13:09 DIFFERENT MEASURES, YOU COULD SAY, THAT WILL DEAL WITH THIS,
02:13:15 THEY ARE ASKING FOR, VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT.
02:13:18 WOULD YOU NOT AGREE, CHIEF?
02:13:21 >> SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THE WAY THIS PROGRAM IS
02:13:25 SET UP, THIS IS THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE PSYCH
02:13:28 EXAMINATION.
02:13:29 WHERE WE GET THE RESULTS.
02:13:30 AND WE KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE FIT FOR DUTY, WHETHER THEY ARE
02:13:33 FIT TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AND WE SEE THOSE
02:13:35 RESULTS.
02:13:36 WHAT CHAIRMAN GUDES, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO IS IF
02:13:40 YOU VOLUNTARILY GO TO EAP, THE CITY MAY NECESSARILY NOT SEE
02:13:44 THE SPECIFIC RESULTS OF YOUR THING.
02:13:46 SO OFFERING A PROGRAM THAT'S VOLUNTARY IS COMPLETELY
02:13:51 DIFFERENT THAN MANDATING A TWO-YEAR CHECKUP.
02:13:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL TELL YOU, AS POLICE OFFICER WHO'S
02:13:58 BEEN THERE, HOW OFFICERS FEEL, I WANT YOU TO GO FOR A
02:14:06 FITNESS FOR DUTY, THAT'S THE MOST SCARIEST THING FOR A
02:14:10 POLICE OFFICER WHEN YOU'RE TOLD TO GO FOR A FITNESS FOR
02:14:13 DUTY.
02:14:14 BUT I CAN SAY, AND I'LL GET TO THAT POINT, WHEN SCOTT WAS
02:14:20 THE SITE DOCTOR, HE WAS THE FAIREST GUY I'VE EVER SEEN.
02:14:23 HE DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SENDING
02:14:26 PEOPLE FOR FITNESS TO DUTY.
02:14:28 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BAILEY GROUP.
02:14:30 THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE CHIEF, HOW MANY DOCTORS DOES THIS
02:14:33 GROUP HAVE?
02:14:35 I THINK SCOKO RETIRED AND SOMEBODY ELSE.
02:14:42 I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SERVICE WITH THE OTHER GENTLEMEN.
02:14:46 ARE THERE MULTIPLE DOCTORS?
02:14:48 SOMETIMES YOU CAN SCREEN A PERSON, BUT IT'S LIKE ANYTHING,
02:14:50 ONE PERSON MAY SCREEN DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS.
02:14:52 AND IT MAY BE A BASELINE HERE.
02:14:58 THAT'S WHY I ASKED IN REFERENCE TO THE BAILEY GROUP, DO THEY
02:15:00 HAVE MULTIPLE DOCTORS IN THE OFFICE DOING THE TESTING FOR
02:15:03 THE PSYCHOLOGICAL?
02:15:04 >> THEY DO HAVE A STAFF AND DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE NUMBER OF
02:15:07 STAFF MEMBERS.
02:15:08 SHE'S NOT BY HERSELF.
02:15:09 SHE HAS A STAFF WITH HER FOR THAT TEAM.
02:15:13 THAT IS, WHILE IT SAYS BAILEY WITH THE PSYCHOLOGICAL, THERE
02:15:19 IS A STAFF OF TEAM MEMBERS WITH HER THAT WORK WITH HER.
02:15:23 I WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING REAL QUICK JUST ON THE EAP.
02:15:28 THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.
02:15:32 THAT'S ANYBODY WHO NEEDS TO REACH OUT TO THE EAP SYSTEM,
02:15:32 THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY.
02:15:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD LIKE TO PUT, LIKE I SAY, A VERY
02:15:39 FRIENDLY MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
02:15:41 UNLIKE YOU, CHAIRMAN GUDES, YOU'VE GOT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE,
02:15:49 AND YOU KNOW THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS, AND YOU LIKE TO
02:15:52 WORK OUT THE NUTS AND BOLTS.
02:15:53 I'M SORT OF A BIG-PICTURE GUY.
02:15:55 WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS CHIEF DELGADO OR ANYBODY ON HIS STAFF
02:16:03 LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY, LOOK AROUND THE STATE, SEE WHO ELSE
02:16:06 IS DOING THIS, WEIGH THE PROS AND CONS, TALK TO THE UNION.
02:16:10 DO THE KIND OF IN-DEPTH DETAILED WORK JUST LIKE THEY DID ON
02:16:14 THE OTHER --
02:16:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
02:16:16 I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
02:16:17 A LOT OF TIMES OFFICERS HIDE THE EMOTION OF THE STRESS
02:16:20 THAT'S GOING ON.
02:16:21 SO MAYBE, AS YOU INDICATED, IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY
02:16:25 TO WHERE ONCE A YEAR OR EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS A PERSON'S
02:16:29 EVALUATION COMES UP, THEY GO TO EAP, BUT THAT'S STILL
02:16:33 PRIVATELY AND IT'S NOT A PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
02:16:36 RECORD OR NOT SCRUTINIZED OR WHAT HAVE YOU BECAUSE THAT
02:16:39 COULD HAPPEN SOMETIMES.
02:16:40 SO IF IT WAS SOMETHING SEPARATE --
02:16:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE WHAT IT IS IS IT STARTS PRIVATE.
02:16:49 SO IF THEY GO THERE -- IF EVERYBODY GOES, THOUSAND OFFICERS,
02:16:53 WHATEVER IT IS, IF EVERYBODY HAS TO GO EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS
02:16:58 AND THE RESULTS ARE PRIVATE, UNLESS SOMETHING GETS FLAGGED
02:17:03 THAT IS SERIOUS AND NEEDS TO GET TO THE ATTENTION OF THOSE
02:17:06 SUPERVISORS.
02:17:07 SO THEY MIGHT HAVE A THRESHOLD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
02:17:09 CHIEF, I THINK YOU TOLD ME THAT EVEN RIGHT NOW IN THE EAP
02:17:13 PROCESS, DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT THERE IS A SORT OF WARNING
02:17:17 FLAG THAT POPS UP EVERY NOW AND THEN.
02:17:21 >> WE HAVE AN EARLY INTERVENTION PROCESS.
02:17:24 EIP.
02:17:25 CERTAIN THINGS THAT TRIGGER EIP WHERE WE REVIEW CERTAIN
02:17:29 THINGS.
02:17:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS.
02:17:31 WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS FOR TPD AND TFR, I GUESS, IF IT'S
02:17:37 APPLICABLE WITH TFR, TO LOOK INTO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
02:17:40 LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY.
02:17:41 I'M SURE WE'RE NOT INVENTING THE WHEEL HERE.
02:17:43 AND COME BACK WITH THE STAFF REPORT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND
02:17:48 LET US KNOW WHAT YOU FIND AND THE PROS AND CONS AND THE PBA
02:17:53 REACTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
02:17:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
02:18:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT HE SAID.
02:18:04 HOWEVER, EITHER THIS MOTION IS GOING TO GO UP OR DOWN AND --
02:18:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I CAN EASILY MOVE ITEM 5.
02:18:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: POINT OF ORDER.
02:18:13 YOU BROUGHT IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
02:18:16 AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, I PREFER TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:18:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M FINE.
02:18:20 PUT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
02:18:21 AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT --
02:18:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M MOVING THE RESOLUTION.
02:18:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO HAS MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
02:18:30 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED IT.
02:18:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:18:32 ANY OPPOSED?
02:18:34 NEED A ROLL CALL.
02:18:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
02:18:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:18:39 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:18:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:18:41 >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
02:18:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:18:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:18:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:18:47 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
02:18:50 ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:18:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION
02:18:53 WHILE THE CHIEF IS HERE, I'LL LET YOU MAKE THE MOTION.
02:18:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR
02:18:59 MOTION, WOULD YOU STATE IT IN A FORM SO WHEN IT APPEARS ON
02:19:02 THE AGENDA IT'S AS YOU WANT IT TO APPEAR ON THE ACTION
02:19:06 SUMMARY AS BEST YOU CAN, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
02:19:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL MOVE THAT THE TPD, WORKING WITH TFR,
02:19:18 EXPLORE AND INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING ADDITIONAL
02:19:25 PSYCHOLOGICAL SCREENING SERVICES TO BOTH DEPARTMENTS AND
02:19:31 COME BACK WITH A REPORT IN SIX MONTHS.
02:19:36 YOU WANT A SPECIFIC DATE, I'M SURE, MR. SHELBY.
02:19:42 -- WHAT'S THAT, JANUARY, FEBRUARY?
02:19:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M --
02:19:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S SAY THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
02:19:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS BY THE DEPARTMENT
02:19:54 OR ADMINISTRATION, CERTAINLY THEY CAN CONTACT YOU WITH
02:19:58 REGARD TO --
02:19:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF DELGADO, YOU GOT THE GIST OF WHAT MR.
02:20:02 DINGFELDER IS ASKING, CORRECT, SIR?
02:20:04 >> I DO, SIR.
02:20:05 THANK YOU.
02:20:06 REAL QUICK, I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN.
02:20:07 I REALLY DO.
02:20:08 I'M GLAD YOU GUYS BROUGHT IT UP.
02:20:10 BUT I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW AS OF TODAY
02:20:14 US AND CHIEF TRIPP, WE DO HAVE DEBRIEFING SESSIONS ON MAJOR
02:20:20 INCIDENTS.
02:20:20 WE ARE DOING THINGS TO CHECK ON THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR
02:20:23 OFFICERS.
02:20:23 BUT I DO APPRECIATE THIS.
02:20:25 WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT.
02:20:27 I KNOW THERE ARE PROGRAMS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WE CAN
02:20:29 PROBABLY MODEL OFF OF OR DOVETAIL OFF OF AND GET A BETTER
02:20:32 IDEA OF HOW TO GO FORWARD.
02:20:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
02:20:35 YES, MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:20:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU REQUEST A
02:20:40 SPECIFIC TIME FRAME?
02:20:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STAFF REPORTS FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
02:20:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FEBRUARY 3rd.
02:20:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:20:50 THAT'S FINE.
02:20:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FROM MR. DINGFELDER.
02:20:53 SECOND?
02:20:54 SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO.
02:20:55 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:20:57 ANY OPPOSED?
02:20:57 MOTION CARRIED.
02:20:59 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, CHIEF, ON THAT ISSUE, AND
02:21:01 THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
02:21:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF IS STILL HERE.
02:21:05 ITEM NUMBER 6, MR. DINGFELDER.
02:21:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, SO I'M SUPER GLAD TO SUPPORT THE
02:21:12 ADDITIONAL BODY CAMERAS.
02:21:14 I THINK THEY ARE VALUABLE.
02:21:16 THE ONLY THING I ASK THE CHIEF ABOUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, WHAT
02:21:21 SORT OF INFORMATION ARE THEY GATHERING ABOUT THE USE OF BODY
02:21:27 CAMERAS AND HOW IS THAT BEING REPORTED, AND IS THAT BEING
02:21:34 REPORTED TO COUNCIL?
02:21:35 THAT'S MY QUESTION ON 6.
02:21:37 I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE ITEM.
02:21:43 >> I CAN TELL YOU WE REVIEW THE 650 THAT WE INITIALLY BOUGHT
02:21:49 WAS OUR INITIAL PURCHASE.
02:21:51 WE ALSO HAD A 10% RESERVE ALONG WITH THAT 650.
02:21:54 WHEN WE EXPANDED THIS OVER TO ALL THE CORPORALS AND SOME OF
02:21:57 THE SPECIALTY UNITS, WE ADDED ADDITIONAL 52 CAMERAS.
02:22:01 THAT'S WHAT THIS PURCHASE IS FOR.
02:22:02 HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE
02:22:05 MOVED FORWARD WITH PUTTING THOSE 52 CAMERAS ON THE STREET
02:22:10 IMMEDIATELY USING THAT 10% RESERVE OF THE 65 WE HAD.
02:22:13 SO THIS IS BASICALLY A PURCHASE FOR THOSE 52 AND 15 FLEET
02:22:18 DUI CAMERAS.
02:22:19 SO I COULD TELL YOU AS FAR AS WHAT WE GET OUT OF THE
02:22:23 BODY-WORN CAMERAS.
02:22:24 WE HAVE MONTHLY AUDITS THAT ARE SET UP.
02:22:27 THE SYSTEM WILL RANDOMLY PICK TEN VIDEOS PER THE SQUAD THAT
02:22:31 THE SERGEANTS HAVE TO WATCH JUST FOR A QUALITY ASSURANCE
02:22:34 CHECKS.
02:22:35 ANYTIME AN OFFICER IS USING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF FORCE, THAT
02:22:37 BODY-WORN CAMERA HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE SERGEANT AND THE
02:22:41 LIEUTENANT AND THEN DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT THAT THEY
02:22:43 REVIEWED IT FOR ACCURACY, AND WE DON'T SEE A TRAINING ISSUE,
02:22:46 WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING THERE.
02:22:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ANNUAL REPORT AS
02:22:51 RELATED TO BODY CAMERAS JUST INTERNAL FOR YOU GUYS OR WHAT?
02:22:56 >> WE DO MONTHLY QUALITY ASSURANCE CHECKS ON THEM.
02:22:58 WE DO WHERE WE CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF AUDITS BEING DONE BY
02:23:01 THE DISTRICTS, THE NUMBER HAD OF CHECKS BEING DONE BY THE
02:23:04 DISTRICTS TO COMPILE IT IN AN ANNUAL REPORT I DON'T THINK
02:23:08 WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DO.
02:23:08 BUT WE DO MONTHLY AS IT IS.
02:23:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.
02:23:12 THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY REQUEST BEFORE OR AFTER WE MOVE THE
02:23:16 ITEM, MR. CITRO, WOULD BE AS A SEPARATE MOTION JUST TO HAVE
02:23:22 AN ANNUAL REPORT COME TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT HOW THE
02:23:26 BODY-WORN CAMERAS PROGRAM IS GOING.
02:23:29 I THINK THAT WAS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE
02:23:33 COMMUNITY AND I THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THE
02:23:37 RESULTS AND THE ANNUAL RESULTS WOULD BE VALUABLE, NOT ONLY
02:23:43 TO COUNCIL, BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO THE COMMUNITY.
02:23:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE CHIEF TOLD ME IN HIS MEETING
02:23:50 THAT WHEN THEY ARE CHECKED, HE WILL KNOW WHO CHECKED IT AT
02:23:55 ANY TIME.
02:23:55 IS THAT CORRECT, CHIEF?
02:23:56 >> YEAH, THE SYSTEM HAS LIKE A FOOTPRINT OF WHO LOOKS AT THE
02:23:59 VIDEOS AND WHO WATCHES VIDEO.
02:24:01 SO, YEAH, IT HAS THAT.
02:24:02 I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW AND SOMETHING PROBABLY THE
02:24:04 PUBLIC HASN'T SEEN IS THE TYPES OF CALLS THESE OFFICERS GO
02:24:08 ON, THE TYPES OF STUFF THEY DEAL WITH EVERY SINGLE DAY.
02:24:11 I THINK ALL THE OFFICERS WOULD AGREE THAT HAVING A CAMERA ON
02:24:16 THEM WHEN THEY GO DO THEIR JOB IS MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THEM
02:24:20 IN THE LONG RUN, AND WE GET TO SEE, JUST LIKE WE TALKED
02:24:23 ABOUT THIS MORNING WITH CORPORAL BAKER.
02:24:26 WHEN YOU CAN SEE THAT ON VIDEO WITH THE GUY HOLDING THE
02:24:28 KNIFE TO THE LADY'S HEAD AND HE DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION,
02:24:32 THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE NEVER WOULD HAVE SEEN
02:24:35 THAT.
02:24:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE THE RESOLUTION, MR. DINGFELDER?
02:24:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:24:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO IS MOVING IT.
02:24:44 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
02:24:47 ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
02:24:48 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:24:49 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
02:24:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:24:55 >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
02:24:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
02:24:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:24:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:25:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
02:25:02 ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:25:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BASED ON WHAT THE CHIEF SAID, I THINK IT
02:25:08 WOULD BE HEALTHY FOR COUNCIL TO GET AN ANNUAL REPORT.
02:25:12 I DON'T WANT THE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL,
02:25:15 BUT JUST COMPILE WHATEVER DATA, INFORMATION, AUDITS,
02:25:18 ET CETERA, THAT THEY THINK ARE RELEVANT AND PRESENT IT TO
02:25:21 COUNCIL ONCE A YEAR FOR LACK OF A BETTER TIME, LET'S SAY
02:25:28 STARTING A YEAR FROM NOW IN AUGUST.
02:25:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MADE A MOTION IN REFERENCE
02:25:36 TO THE BODY CAMERAS FOR AUDITS STARTING IN AUGUST OF 2022.
02:25:41 MR. CITRO.
02:25:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:25:43 YOU ARE ASKING JUST FOR A VERBAL WRITTEN REPORT, NO VIDEO,
02:25:48 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE KIND OF TOUCHY ON THAT.
02:25:50 THERE MIGHT BE INFORMATION THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BE OUT TO
02:25:53 THE PUBLIC.
02:25:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
02:25:56 NO.
02:25:57 I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR A WRITTEN REPORT IN THE EVENT WE HAVE
02:26:01 ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ALWAYS ASK THE CHIEF TO JOIN US AT
02:26:04 THAT TIME.
02:26:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
02:26:07 DO I HAVE A SECOND?
02:26:07 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
02:26:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
02:26:12 ANY OPPOSED?
02:26:12 MOTION CARRIED.
02:26:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
02:26:15 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:26:16 >> THANK YOU.
02:26:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WE'VE ALREADY MADE A CONSENT
02:26:24 DOCKET FOR 89, 90, 91, 92, 93.
02:26:26 WE'LL GO TO ITEM 94.
02:26:32 >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
02:26:43 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.
02:26:44 AS MOST OF US HAVE DISCUSSED, THIS IS A REQUEST TO EXTEND
02:26:47 THE MATURITY DATE FOR OUR CURRENT LINE OF CREDIT, NOT TO
02:26:51 EXCEED $60 MILLION.
02:26:53 THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL DEBT.
02:26:56 THIS IS SIMPLY TO GIVE US A LITTLE TIME TO REPAY THE
02:26:59 REMAINING 25 MILLION WE OWE AS PART OF A LARGER ISSUANCE
02:27:05 EITHER LATER THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR.
02:27:08 OF COURSE, MR. MASSEY AND I HAVE PROVIDED A MEMO TO COUNCIL,
02:27:12 AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
02:27:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
02:27:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE REASON I PULLED THIS, DENNIS AND I
02:27:20 HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, BUT I DO THINK IT'S
02:27:23 IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR.
02:27:25 WHAT IS OUR CURRENT USE -- AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY SAID IT
02:27:31 IN THE MEMO, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT USE OF THE LINE OF CREDIT,
02:27:35 MR. ROGERO?
02:27:36 AND HOW DID WE ACCUMULATE THAT PARTICULAR DEBT?
02:27:41 >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAINLY.
02:27:43 I BELIEVE I CAN SUMMARIZE THAT PRETTY SUCCINCTLY.
02:27:46 WE TOOK THE LINE OF CREDIT OUT IN 2016 ANTICIPATING TO USE
02:27:52 ALMOST 50, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT TO EXCEED 60 JUST IN CASE,
02:27:56 INTENDING TO USE ABOUT $50 MILLION FOR STORMWATER PROJECTS
02:27:59 AND GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROJECTS.
02:28:02 YOU MAY RECALL THAT IN ORDER TO GET THOSE STORMWATER
02:28:06 PROJECTS UP AS FAST AS WE COULD, WE BORROWED ABOUT 25
02:28:10 MILLION, 26 MILLION ON THIS LINE OF CREDIT FOR THOSE
02:28:13 STORMWATER PROJECTS AND PAID OFF THAT 25, $26 MILLION
02:28:18 COMPONENT WITH THE STORMWATER BOND ISSUANCE.
02:28:22 IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR PLAN TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE
02:28:26 REMAINING 25 MILLION AND TO SPECIFICALLY ANSWER YOUR
02:28:29 QUESTION, THE 25 MILLION WE'VE DRAWN DOWN SO FAR HAS BEEN
02:28:33 USED A LITTLE OVER 14 MILLION FOR MOBILITY PROJECTS,
02:28:37 INCLUDING RESURFACING, OLD CITY HALL RENOVATIONS OF
02:28:41 APPROXIMATELY $4 MILLION.
02:28:44 TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES OF OVER $4 MILLION, AND THEN YOU'LL
02:28:48 RECALL THE RECENT HANNA AVENUE DESIGN AND DEMO ITEM FOR A
02:28:53 LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION.
02:28:55 THERE'S YOUR 25 MILLION.
02:28:58 AGAIN, WE ANTICIPATE WRAPPING THIS UP IN THE LARGER BOND
02:29:01 ISSUANCE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
02:29:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE A FIXED INTEREST RATE ON THAT
02:29:08 LINE OF CREDIT?
02:29:10 >>DENNIS ROGERO: SOMEWHAT, SOMEWHAT.
02:29:11 AS WE GET INTO DETAIL IN THE MEMO, THE UPSHOT IS WE'RE GOING
02:29:17 TO GET LITTLE BETTER TERMS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS, AND
02:29:23 THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE CALL THE LIBOR RATE, THE
02:29:26 LONDON INTERBANK OFFERED RATE.
02:29:26 IT IS COMPOSED OF TWO PORTIONS.
02:29:28 THE SMALLER PORTION IS THE BASE PORTION, AND THAT'S WHAT MAY
02:29:31 CHANGE.
02:29:32 WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE VERY MUCH NOR DO
02:29:35 OUR FINANCE PROFESSIONALS.
02:29:37 THE MUCH LARGER PORTION IS THE SPREAD PORTION, AND THAT WILL
02:29:41 REMAIN FIXED.
02:29:42 SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT VERY SMALL PORTION THAT CAN CHANGE AND
02:29:45 THE FIXED LARGE PORTION THAT CAN'T, THAT'S GOING TO STAY AND
02:29:49 LITTLE LESS, WE THINK WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS.
02:29:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THAT RATE -- APPROXIMATELY WHAT
02:29:56 IS THAT RATE NOW?
02:29:58 >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOW, THAT I'LL HAVE TO TURN TO THE MEMO.
02:30:01 GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
02:30:04 AGAIN, NOT GETTING TOO DETAILED, YOU HAVE THAT LIBOR RATE
02:30:13 BROKEN OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
02:30:15 THE BASE, VERY SMALL PORTION WILL GO FROM 70 TO 80 PERCENT.
02:30:19 SO THAT'S AN INCREASE, BUT IT'S A VERY SMALL PORTION, AGAIN,
02:30:22 OF THAT FEE.
02:30:23 THE SPREAD WILL ACTUALLY BE REDUCED FROM NEARLY .6% DOWN TO
02:30:28 JUST OVER .3 PERCENT, REPRESENTING A TOTAL SAVINGS TO THE
02:30:33 CITY OF A QUARTER OF A PERCENT.
02:30:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, DENNIS.
02:30:38 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
02:30:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ELSE?
02:30:40 MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
02:30:47 MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT.
02:30:49 ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:30:53 >> YES.
02:30:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:30:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:30:55 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:30:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:30:57 >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
02:30:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
02:31:00 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
02:31:02 ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:31:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:31:05 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ROGERO, CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION?
02:31:10 I'VE HAD SEVERAL NONPROFITS AND OTHERS CALL ME IN THE PAST
02:31:12 FEW DAYS AND SAY THEY FIND THE BUDGET MORE DIFFICULT TO
02:31:18 NAVIGATE THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY DRILLING DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL
02:31:20 LINE ITEMS.
02:31:21 IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THE WAY IT'S SET UP THIS
02:31:24 YEAR OR ARE THERE ANY TIPS OR RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE
02:31:26 TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION?
02:31:28 >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO.
02:31:30 THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
02:31:32 WE HAVE GOTTEN SIMILAR FEEDBACK.
02:31:34 AGAIN, I GUESS ANECDOTALLY IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW DETAILED
02:31:38 YOU WANT TO BE.
02:31:39 WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO IS PROVIDE TWO FORMATS.
02:31:42 THE TYPICAL FORMAT THAT ALMOST EVERYBODY IS USED TO,
02:31:44 INCLUDING MYSELF, AND THAT IS THE PRINTED FORMAT.
02:31:47 AND THEN THAT OPEN GOV PROGRAM FORMAT, WHICH AS WE,
02:31:52 INCLUDING MYSELF, GET MORE AND MORE USED TO IT, I THINK
02:31:54 WE'RE GOING TO FALL IN LOVE WITH IT.
02:31:56 IT ALLOWS SO MANY MORE INQUIRIES AND SO MUCH MORE DETAIL IF
02:32:00 YOU'RE INCLINED TO GO THAT ROUTE.
02:32:02 MY FIRST SUGGESTION WOULD BE PLEASE CALL ME OR MY OFFICE.
02:32:06 ONE OF OUR ANALYSTS CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT OPEN GOV
02:32:11 PROGRAM.
02:32:11 SECONDLY, IF YOU GO ON OUR WEBSITE, WE'VE GOT, FOR LACK OF A
02:32:15 BETTER TERM, TRADITIONAL BUDGET OUT THERE WITH THE PDF THAT
02:32:19 WOULD TYPICALLY IN THE OLD DAYS, WOULD TYPICALLY BE A HARD
02:32:22 COPY.
02:32:24 AND THEN THAT JUST PROCEEDS RIGHT ALONG WITH THE TABLE OF
02:32:27 CONTENTS.
02:32:28 SO WE UNDERSTAND IT IS A NEW PLATFORM.
02:32:30 AGAIN, IN AN EFFORT AT INCREASING TRANSPARENCY BOTH TO
02:32:35 CANDIDLY INTERNALLY, WITH COUNCIL, AND WITH THE PUBLIC IS A
02:32:40 GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION OUT THERE.
02:32:41 I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT MAY BE A CHALLENGE.
02:32:47 >>BILL CARLSON: IF ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION, E-MAIL ME AND
02:32:49 I'LL FORWARD IT TO THEM.
02:32:51 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:32:52 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:32:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 95 HAS ALREADY BEEN DEALT WITH
02:32:57 THIS MORNING.
02:32:57 ITEM NUMBER 96.
02:33:10 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR, COUNCIL.
02:33:12 THIS IS OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
02:33:15 COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
02:33:17 I SUBMITTED A MEMO FOR ITEM 96.
02:33:20 WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:33:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:33:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
02:33:29 JUST A BRIEF COMMENT.
02:33:30 I KNOW THAT I MENTIONED VILA BROTHERS PARK AND WE HAD THE
02:33:34 SPECIAL DISCUSSION LAST WEEK.
02:33:37 I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO
02:33:40 YEARS, AND THAT WE ALLOCATE THAT MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO
02:33:44 FINISH THIS PROJECT.
02:33:44 BUT HAVING SAID THAT, IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO
02:33:49 EXPAND THE ADA ACCESSIBILITY, ESPECIALLY PARKING.
02:33:53 I THINK THERE'S ONE ADA PARKING SPOT FOR THE PARK.
02:33:57 I BELIEVE, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I THINK THERE'S JUST ONE.
02:34:01 AND WE DID MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
02:34:03 SO THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK OFF ARMENIA MAKES IT EASY
02:34:07 BECAUSE THERE'S STREET PARKING THERE.
02:34:09 I THINK WE CAN EXPAND ON THE SPACES THAT ARE MARKED HANDICAP
02:34:12 OR FOR ADA ACCESSIBILITY.
02:34:15 IT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO AND EASIEST WAY TO ACCESS THAT
02:34:19 PARK FOR PEOPLE DRIVING IN.
02:34:20 SO THAT'S REALLY IT.
02:34:21 I APPRECIATE THE MEMO OR THE WRITTEN REPORT.
02:34:27 AND THAT'S IT.
02:34:28 THANK YOU.
02:34:31 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DIRECTOR WYNN, I WOULD ASK THAT THE
02:34:34 RECREATION DEPARTMENT, EVERY TIME I LOOK AROUND, ANOTHER
02:34:41 ITEM.
02:34:41 I'M HOPING WE'LL GET TO THE POINT WE'LL SAY, COME TO THIS
02:34:45 COUNCIL, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO COMPLETE VILA BROTHERS AND
02:34:48 THAT WAY WE HAVE A NUMBER TO WORK WITH SO WE CAN GET THAT
02:34:51 DONE AND WE DON'T GET ALL THE PHONE CALLS FROM THE FOLKS
02:34:53 OVER THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG,
02:34:56 LONG TIME, THEY HAVE BEEN PROMISED A LONG, LONG TIME.
02:34:59 IF EVENTUALLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL,
02:35:03 EVEN DURING THIS BUDGET TIME, WHAT IT WILL COST TO GET THIS
02:35:06 WORK DONE AT VILA BROTHERS SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO
02:35:10 GET IT OFF THE PLATE.
02:35:11 >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
02:35:13 TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF REQUESTS OVER THE
02:35:16 YEARS.
02:35:17 AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE COMPILING THOSE LISTS TO MAKE
02:35:21 SURE IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE LIST, AND THAT WE HAVE THE COSTS
02:35:25 ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPAIRS, AND WE WILL BE PREPARED TO COME
02:35:30 BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT THOSE ASKS ARE AND THE ASSOCIATED
02:35:33 COSTS.
02:35:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:35:36 ANYONE ELSE?
02:35:37 ALL RIGHT.
02:35:38 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE COMMENTS.
02:35:41 MR. VIERA GOT HIS ITEM NUMBER 7 OUT OF THE WAY THIS MORNING.
02:35:51 ITEM NUMBER 98.
02:35:59 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:36:02 COUNCIL MEMBERS, I FORWARDED YOU A MEMO TRANSMITTING THE
02:36:06 INITIAL DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES TO
02:36:11 CHAPTER 14, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, THAT COUNCIL FIRST HEARD
02:36:16 ABOUT IN RECOMMENDATIONS DURING THE APRIL 22nd, 2021
02:36:22 WORKSHOP ON AB HOURS OF OPERATION AND NOISE AND DISTANCE
02:36:26 SEPARATION.
02:36:26 WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON, I DO HAVE SIMONE SAVINO WITH THE
02:36:31 LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND ALSO MS. FEELEY IS ON THE LINE AS WELL.
02:36:34 IF WE COULD TAKE A FEW BRIEF MOMENTS, I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH
02:36:39 THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS BEFORE
02:36:42 YOU.
02:36:42 COUNCIL, AT THE APRIL 22nd, 2021 WORKSHOP, COUNCIL
02:36:48 ACCEPTED FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF.
02:36:51 THEY WERE, NUMBER ONE, TO CREATE A CITYWIDE AMPLIFIED SOUND
02:36:55 STANDARD APPLICABLE TO ALL USES.
02:36:57 NUMBER TWO, TO MODIFY AND AMEND EXISTING CHAPTER 14
02:37:01 DEFINITIONS TO REFINE, CLARIFY, AND UPDATE WHERE NEEDED.
02:37:06 NUMBER THREE, TO ADDRESS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
02:37:08 AND NUMBER FOUR, TO UPDATE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS FOR
02:37:11 THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
02:37:12 SO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, IF I COULD CALL YOUR ATTENTION
02:37:17 TO SECTION 6 OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE
02:37:21 MEMO, THIS CREATES A NEW SECTION 14-164 IN THE NOISE
02:37:27 ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND FROM ANY
02:37:31 PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY AFTER MIDNIGHT.
02:37:33 SO THAT'S THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION.
02:37:35 RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO WAS TO MODIFY AND AMEND EXISTING
02:37:40 CHAPTER 14 DEFINITIONS.
02:37:42 AND SECTION TWO OF THE ORDINANCE CONTAINS THOSE
02:37:45 MODIFICATIONS AND AMENDMENTS.
02:37:47 SO YOU CAN SEE THERE WE'VE ADDED A DEFINITION OF AMPLIFIED
02:37:51 SOUND.
02:37:52 WE HAVE MODIFIED THE DEFINITIONS OF DBA AND DBC, WHICH ARE
02:37:57 THE TWO DECIBEL MEASUREMENT LEVELS THAT WE USE.
02:38:01 WE'VE ADDED A DEFINITION OF SOUND AMPLIFICATION DEVICE.
02:38:06 WE'VE MODIFIED THE DEFINITION OF SOUND LEVEL.
02:38:09 AND WE'VE ADDED A DEFINITION OF SOUND LEVEL METER.
02:38:13 RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 3 WAS FOR CHANGES TO SECTION 14-153,
02:38:24 FIRST TO REMOVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM THE DECIBEL LEVEL
02:38:31 MEASUREMENT METHOD.
02:38:33 YOU'LL RECALL THAT THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT WE MEASURE
02:38:35 UNREASONABLY LOUD AND RAUCOUS NOISE IN THE CITY.
02:38:39 ONE IS THROUGH THE DECIBEL LEVEL METERS.
02:38:42 CURRENTLY, THOSE DECIBEL MEASUREMENTS APPLY TO THREE
02:38:47 DISTRICTS: THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC
02:38:50 DISTRICT, AND THE ARENA DISTRICT.
02:38:51 SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH COUNCIL ACCEPTED WAS TO REMOVE
02:38:55 THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM THE DECIBEL MEASUREMENT STANDARD.
02:39:01 SO THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY PLACE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IN THE
02:39:05 OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY SECTION, WHICH IS 14-154, WHICH USES
02:39:12 THE PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD TO DETERMINE WHETHER NOISE IS
02:39:15 UNREASONABLY LOUD AND RAUCOUS.
02:39:18 ALSO, IN THAT SECTION, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A SECOND TIER OF
02:39:25 DECIBEL LIMITS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL.
02:39:28 SO WE HAVE THE FIRST TIER, WHICH IS 85 DBA OR 87 DBC,
02:39:34 BETWEEN THE HOWEVER, 6 P.M. AND CURRENTLY 3 A.M.
02:39:38 THAT FIRST TIER WOULD BE REDUCED NOW FOR THAT MAXIMUM
02:39:41 DECIBEL LEVEL, IT WOULD HAVE TO END AT 1 A.M.
02:39:45 AND THEN WE'VE ESTABLISHED A SECOND TIER A LITTLE LOWER
02:39:49 DECIBEL MAXIMUM 75 DBA OR -- AND I REALIZE THERE IS A BLANK
02:39:55 IN THE VERSION YOU HAVE, BUT THAT WOULD BE 80 DBC BETWEEN
02:39:58 THE HOURS OF 1 A.M. AND 3 A.M.
02:40:01 AND THEN, FINALLY, 65 DBA OR 75 DBC BETWEEN THE HOURS OF
02:40:06 3 A.M. AND 6 P.M.
02:40:09 FINALLY, COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 4 WAS TO UPDATE THE
02:40:19 ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS.
02:40:19 THOSE CHANGES CAN BE FOUND AT SECTION 5 OF THE DRAFT
02:40:23 ORDINANCE.
02:40:24 AGAIN, IN THIS SECTION, WE REMOVED THE FIVE-MINUTE WARNING,
02:40:28 AND THEN WE HAVE MODIFIED THE ENFORCEMENT BY CIVIL CITATION
02:40:33 SECTION TO INCLUDE THAT NEW SECTION 14-164.
02:40:39 I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE.
02:40:43 THIS IS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TO GET YOUR COMMENTS AND
02:40:47 FEEDBACK AND LET US KNOW IF WE ARE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION
02:40:52 YOU WOULD LIKE.
02:40:53 IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO
02:40:57 INCORPORATE AT THIS TIME OR IF WE MAY CONTINUE ALONG THIS
02:41:00 VEIN AND ULTIMATELY SCHEDULE THE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
02:41:02 BEFORE COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
02:41:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL LET OTHER
02:41:07 COUNCILMEN GO FIRST.
02:41:09 ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS?
02:41:10 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:41:12 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:41:13 ON A RELATED ISSUE, SUSAN, AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS
02:41:23 CAROLE POST YESTERDAY.
02:41:24 I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T CALL YOU ON IT.
02:41:27 THE FOLKS OVER IN ARMATURE, THE FOLKS WHO RUN ARMATURE HAVE
02:41:32 REQUESTED TO BE TREATED -- WELL, TO BE SPECIFICALLY
02:41:41 ADDRESSED IN THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
02:41:45 I THINK THEY WANT TO HOLD OUTDOOR EVENTS, AND THEY WANT TO
02:41:49 HAVE THE MORE LENIENT ORDINANCE APPLY TO THEM.
02:41:54 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, SUSAN, OR NOT.
02:42:01 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I AM.
02:42:02 I'VE SPOKEN TO MR. HARDEN ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL.
02:42:07 I DID LET HIM KNOW AT THE TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AT THAT
02:42:11 POINT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
02:42:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'M NOT REALLY SURE THE BEST WAY TO
02:42:20 APPROACH IT TODAY.
02:42:22 I THINK AS LONG AS WE'RE LOOKING AT TWEAKING THE NOISE
02:42:25 ORDINANCE IN THIS REGARD, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY AT A MINIMUM
02:42:29 TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO.
02:42:37 IF WE ALL AGREE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA, DO YOU
02:42:40 HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON A MOTION THAT WOULD JIBE WITH YOUR
02:42:50 WORK SCHEDULE AND THE DIRECTION THAT YOU ALL ARE HEADED
02:42:52 RIGHT NOW?
02:42:53 ABBYE I THINK HAS HER HAND UP.
02:42:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS --
02:43:02 >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
02:43:04 GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
02:43:05 AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAD A PRETTY EXTENSIVE WORKSHOP ON
02:43:09 THIS MATTER AND EVEN HAD OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT
02:43:17 THAT TIME.
02:43:17 AND IF YOU RECALL EVEN FURTHER, WE REMOVED THE CHANNEL
02:43:24 DISTRICT DUE TO THEIR GROWING RESIDENTIAL NATURE TO INCLUDE
02:43:30 THEM NOW AS OUTSIDE OF THAT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND
02:43:34 REALLY INTO THE MORE GENERAL, ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.
02:43:41 IN LOOKING AT JUST AN INITIAL REACTION, THERE IS
02:43:45 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS ARMATURE WORKS
02:43:49 IN THAT AREA, AND I WOULD HAVE TO EXAMINE IT FURTHER, BUT IN
02:43:55 THIS CONTEXT, MY INITIAL REACTION WOULD BE WE AT LEAST NEED
02:43:59 TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC DISCUSSION, ALLOW THOSE RESIDENTS TO
02:44:03 KNOW THAT THIS MAY BE FORTHCOMING, AND TO GIVE THEM AN
02:44:07 OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS AS THAT WAS NOT
02:44:11 NOR DID WE OPEN TO ANY OTHER AREAS FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE
02:44:14 TIME THAT WE PRESENTED WHAT WE DID TO YOU BACK JUST A FEW
02:44:18 MONTHS AGO.
02:44:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PROBLEM I HAVE, MR. DINGFELDER, IS
02:44:21 THIS: MANY, MANY MOONS AGO, EVERYBODY WANTED MIXED USE WITH
02:44:27 RETAIL AND ENTERTAINMENT.
02:44:28 AND YOU GOT IT.
02:44:31 YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED.
02:44:34 NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GETTING BIG NOW, RESIDENTS IN
02:44:39 THERE, SO NOW WE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MUSIC, THE DANCING,
02:44:43 EVERYTHING.
02:44:43 NOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARMATURE WORKS, DOWNTOWN IS
02:44:47 COMPLAINING NOW.
02:44:47 DOWNTOWN SAY WE HAVE ALL THESE PLACES RIGHT IN FRONT OFF ARE
02:44:50 YOUR RESIDENCES NOW, SO EITHER WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE
02:44:54 PROBLEM TOTALLY AND SAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST A SECTION
02:44:58 OF WHEREVER IT IS THAT WON'T BE INTERFERING WITH THE
02:45:01 RESIDENTS, LIKE DOWNTOWN.
02:45:04 WE CAN LOOK AT THIS SIDE OF DOWNTOWN CAN'T HAVE MUSIC THE
02:45:09 MUSIC WILL BE AMPLIFIED ON THE BUILDINGS.
02:45:11 IT ONLY CAN BE ON THIS STREET OVER HERE.
02:45:14 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.
02:45:16 JUST AS SURE AS ARMATURE WORKS TELLS YOU THAT, I GUARANTEE
02:45:20 THE WAY THEY ARE BUILDING IN WEST TAMPA, YOU'LL HAVE A
02:45:22 NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS.
02:45:24 ME, MANISCALCO, AND YOU, CALLING SAYING THE MUSIC IS TOO
02:45:28 LOUD.
02:45:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME THERE IS AN
02:45:32 EVENT.
02:45:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERY TIME.
02:45:33 PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY WANT TO BUY AND MOVE
02:45:36 SOMEPLACE, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD BE MUSIC.
02:45:40 IT COULD BE LOUD MUSIC.
02:45:41 BUT, AGAIN, BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW LOUD
02:45:45 THAT MUSIC CAN BE.
02:45:47 I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE REDESIGNING OR DOING
02:45:51 THESE DRAWINGS OR RENDERINGS, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE
02:45:56 GOING TO PUT THIS STUFF AT, WHAT CAN GO WHERE SO WE DON'T
02:45:59 RUN INTO THIS.
02:45:59 THE OTHER SITUATION, I'VE GOT TWO OR THREE MUSIC STORES THAT
02:46:04 ARE OPEN AREA, YOU CAN SEE, AND THE MUSIC BLASTING ALL DAY
02:46:08 LONG INTO THE LATE EVENING TIMES, I HAVE -- CALLING ME
02:46:14 CONSTANTLY IN REFERENCE TO THE STORE ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
02:46:17 I'VE GONE BY THEIR CODE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT HASN'T
02:46:20 GONE TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD TO BE ADDRESSED.
02:46:22 THESE ARE SOME ISSUES AS WELL.
02:46:25 I'M JUST SAYING, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE, WE NEED TO
02:46:28 BE CLEAR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO CUT IT, MR. DINGFELDER.
02:46:32 I'M TELLING YOU, IF YOU DO THAT WITH ARMATURE WORKS,
02:46:37 DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO BE SAYING THEY WANT THEIR OWN WAY, SO
02:46:39 WE NEED TO FIND HOW WE'LL DO IT CITYWIDE TO SAY WHAT
02:46:44 ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WHAT ENTERTAINMENT AREA SHOULD GO
02:46:48 WHERE SO IT'S NOT INTERFERING WITH THE RESIDENTS.
02:46:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
02:46:59 NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE OUR LITTLE PARK THERE IMMEDIATELY
02:47:01 ADJACENT TO ARMATURE WORKS.
02:47:03 I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT.
02:47:04 ANYBODY?
02:47:04 THE ONE WITH THE BAND SHELL.
02:47:06 >> WATER WORKS.
02:47:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WATER WORKS PARK AND WE HAVE A BAND SHELL
02:47:12 THERE AND WE HAVE OUR OWN CITY EVENTS THERE IN THE BAND
02:47:14 SHELL FACING IN THE EXACT SAME DIRECTION THAT I THINK THE
02:47:17 ARMATURE FOLKS ARE LOOKING TO DO, WHICH IS HAVE EVENTS RIGHT
02:47:20 THERE ALONG THE RIVER WITH MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, AND
02:47:24 THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT
02:47:28 LITTLE -- YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING AND THAT SORT OF THING.
02:47:31 IN REGARD TO CLOSE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS, YEAH, I'M
02:47:37 FAMILIAR WHERE THEY ARE.
02:47:38 THEY ARE ABOUT FIVE, SIX BLOCKS UP THE HILL OR THEY ARE ON
02:47:43 THE OTHER SIDE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
02:47:48 THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'M PICTURING.
02:47:50 BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT THIS SECOND.
02:47:54 WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE LOOK AT IT, THAT WE EXPLORE
02:47:59 IT, THAT WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FOLKS FROM ARMATURE
02:48:02 WHO ARE RUNNING THIS AND WHO WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND HAVE
02:48:10 EVENTS AS WELL AS THE TAMPA HEIGHTS COMMUNITY AND THE
02:48:13 SINGLE-FAMILY FOLKS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND MAYBE EVEN THE
02:48:18 FOLKS WHO ARE RENTING IN THE BUILDINGS, ALTHOUGH I WOULD
02:48:22 THINK, AGAIN, IF THEY CAME TO THOSE BUILDINGS AND THEY ARE
02:48:26 RENTING IN THOSE BUILDINGS THAT THEY KIND OF KNOW WHAT
02:48:28 DISTRICT THEY ARE RENTING IN.
02:48:30 ANYWAY, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT THE BEST MECHANISM TO
02:48:35 EXPLORE THESE.
02:48:36 MS. FEELEY, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE SHOULD DO IT HAND
02:48:41 IN HAND WITH ITEM 98 AND THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE CHUGGING
02:48:48 ALONG, I GUESS WE CAN COME BACK LATER AND DO IT LATER.
02:48:50 I JUST THOUGHT DOING IT ALL AT ONCE MADE SENSE.
02:48:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE YOUR POINT, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT ALL
02:48:58 THE CALLS I'M GETTING FROM DOWNTOWN, AT THIS PARTICULAR
02:49:03 POINT, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?
02:49:05 IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A JOB, WE NEED TO DO THE JOB RIGHT THE
02:49:08 FIRST TIME.
02:49:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE REGULATION DOWNTOWN?
02:49:13 IS IT LIKE CHANNELSIDE OR IS IT LIKE THE REST OF THE CITY?
02:49:19 >>SIMONE SAVINO: SIMONE SAVINO ON BEHALF OF THE LEGAL
02:49:22 DEPARTMENT.
02:49:22 THE REGULATION FOR DOWNTOWN IS GOVERNED BY 14-154 OF OUR
02:49:25 CODE, WHICH SPEAKS TO UNREASONABLY LOUD AND RAUCOUS NOISE,
02:49:29 BUT IT'S NOT MEASURED WITH A DECIBEL STANDARD.
02:49:32 IT'S MEASURED WITH MORE OF WHAT WE'VE COME TO CALL A PLAINLY
02:49:36 AUDIBLE STANDARD.
02:49:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS THE CITYWIDE STANDARD, RIGHT?
02:49:39 >>SIMONE SAVINO: THAT'S THE CITYWIDE STANDARD.
02:49:41 I'LL JUST PROVIDE A REMINDER THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME
02:49:45 DOWNTOWN WAS WITHIN THE DECIBEL, AS LATE AS 2018, IT WAS
02:49:49 INCLUDED WITHIN 14-153, WHICH WAS THE DECIBEL SECTION, IS
02:49:54 THE DECIBEL SECTION, BUT IT WAS AT THE TIME REQUESTED TO BE
02:49:58 MOVED, AND THAT'S HOW WE PROCEEDED.
02:50:07 >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE.
02:50:10 SIMONE, THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
02:50:12 I WANTED TO TAKE A BRIEF STEP BACK ON HOW WE GOT TO THE
02:50:14 ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND THAT IS THAT WE WERE
02:50:20 LOOKING TO CREATE A MORE PREDICTABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE
02:50:24 STANDARD AS THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS SURROUNDING
02:50:29 OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND THAT RAN WITH ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
02:50:34 PERMITS.
02:50:34 AND WHEN THE SOUND WAS OCCURRING, PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO GO
02:50:38 IN AND SEE, OH, WHAT DID THIS BAR AND LOUNGE GET?
02:50:42 OH, WHAT DID THEY GET?
02:50:44 AND WHAT OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WAS LET'S DO THIS
02:50:48 CITYWIDE SO THAT AT MIDNIGHT, THERE IS NO MORE OUTDOOR
02:50:51 AMPLIFIED SOUND.
02:50:52 PEOPLE CAN BE IN THEIR HOMES.
02:50:54 IT CAN BE QUIET, AND THEY CAN KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, AND THEN
02:50:58 IT ISN'T A MOVING TARGET, BUT IT IS A MORE UNDERSTANDABLE
02:51:03 STANDARD.
02:51:04 THAT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IS BEFORE YOU
02:51:06 TODAY.
02:51:06 THE SECOND WAS THOSE TWO ENTERTAINMENT AREAS WITH YBOR AND
02:51:13 THE ARENA DISTRICT, THAT AT ONE TIME DID INCLUDE CHANNEL
02:51:16 DISTRICT AND NOW MUCH LIKE THE CBD, IS BEING MOVED INTO THAT
02:51:23 CITYWIDE STANDARD VERSUS THE DECIBELS.
02:51:27 THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
02:51:30 WE DID SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS.
02:51:33 NOW THAT THIS OTHER AREA HAS COME UP, I MEAN, I WOULD
02:51:36 ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IN
02:51:40 KEEPING WITH, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE
02:51:42 BEEN WAITING FOR THESE ITEMS TO COME BACK AND US TO START
02:51:47 MOVING TOWARD ADDRESSING MANY OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT ARE OUT
02:51:52 THERE TODAY IN SETTING THIS STANDARD.
02:51:56 IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT FURTHER IN RELATION
02:52:00 OR OUTSIDE OF THIS IN RELATION TO THE HEIGHTS AREA.
02:52:06 THERE'S ONE GENERAL WET ZONING ON THAT AREA AS WELL, BUT
02:52:10 THERE ARE ON PALM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES AND SOME OTHERS
02:52:17 IN THAT AREA AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
02:52:20 AND MUCH LIKE YOU'VE HEARD, SOUND DOES TRAVEL.
02:52:23 I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT
02:52:28 WHAT'S BEING RAISED TODAY IN RELATION TO THAT AREA OF THE
02:52:30 CITY AND BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER -- A MORE KIND OF
02:52:38 EXAMINED RECOMMENDATION IN RELATION TO THAT AREA AS WELL AS
02:52:42 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND SOME FEEDBACK THERE FROM THOSE
02:52:46 RESIDENTS.
02:52:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
02:52:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG YOUR TERM OF DISCUSSION,
02:52:54 HILLSBOROUGH RIVER ON THE WEST SIDE, RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL
02:52:57 VACANT, CORRECT?
02:52:58 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT DEVELOPS?
02:52:59 START CONSTRUCTION SOON.
02:53:03 THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GO BACK IN.
02:53:04 AND YOU DON'T HAVE NO COMPLAINTS NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE
02:53:07 THERE.
02:53:07 HOWEVER, WHEN THOSE ARRIVE THERE, AND THEY ARE THERE
02:53:12 COMFORTABLY, NOW YOU MAY HAVE A PROBLEM.
02:53:14 I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.
02:53:16 YOU MAY HAVE A PROBLEM.
02:53:17 IT'S GOT TO BE DONE CITYWIDE.
02:53:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS IT A CONSENSUS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE 98
02:53:30 AND THEY CAN STILL CONTINUE TO CONSTRUCT AND LOOK AT THESE
02:53:36 OTHER ISSUES?
02:53:37 OR WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD?
02:53:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M FINE.
02:53:44 IT LOOKS LIKE THIS TRAIN SORT OF LEFT THE STATION, AND
02:53:48 THAT'S FINE.
02:53:48 I THINK THE IDEAS GENERALLY ARE GOOD.
02:53:52 ABBYE, WERE YOU SAYING -- AND I'M TRYING TO FIND THIS ON
02:53:55 YOUR MEMO OR YOUR PROPOSAL.
02:54:00 I'M LOOKING IN SIRE, BUT I'M HAVING SOME TROUBLE FINDING IT.
02:54:04 ARE YOU SAYING THAT ONE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO CHANGE
02:54:07 CHAPTER 27 OR IS IT CHANGING CHAPTER 14 SO JOE AND I DON'T
02:54:14 HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION ON EVERY SINGLE WET ZONING TO LIMIT
02:54:17 THE NUMBER -- TO LIMIT THE HOURS OF NOISE AND THAT SORT OF
02:54:22 THING?
02:54:22 ARE WE CHANGING THAT?
02:54:24 >>ABBYE FEELEY: BY MOVING FORWARD TODAY WITH THE CHAPTER 14,
02:54:29 PLACING THAT ON FOR AN UPCOMING FIRST READING, THAT WILL NOW
02:54:33 SET A STANDARD CITYWIDE FOR OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AT
02:54:38 MIDNIGHT.
02:54:39 AND THAT WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE SERVING ALCOHOL, PEOPLE NOT
02:54:42 SERVING ALCOHOL.
02:54:44 IT DOESN'T MATTER.
02:54:45 AT MIDNIGHT, WE GO OUTSIDE, TOWN GOES QUIET.
02:54:51 THAT WAY WHEN THERE IS A COMPLAINT AND TPD ARRIVES, THERE'S
02:54:54 NO DISCUSSION AS TO, OH, DID YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR
02:54:57 ALCOHOL OR NOT THROUGH YOUR ALCOHOL?
02:54:58 WHERE THAT IS WHAT THE STANDARD WOULD BE.
02:55:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I LIKE THAT A LOT, BECAUSE IT IS SORT OF
02:55:04 CUMBERSOME FOR US TO DO IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
02:55:08 SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
02:55:10 I GUESS MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
02:55:13 WAIVE THAT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS?
02:55:16 LIKE IF SOMEBODY -- THE OTHER DAY, WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO
02:55:19 WANTED -- WHO HAD AN OPERATION UNDERNEATH THE CROSSTOWN THAT
02:55:24 CLEARLY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE NO IMPACT ON ANYBODY.
02:55:29 DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THAT IN A REZONING OR IN A
02:55:34 WET ZONING?
02:55:35 >>ABBYE FEELEY: NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO.
02:55:38 IT IS A CHAPTER 14 STANDARD, AND IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE AND
02:55:42 WOULD NOT BE WAIVABLE.
02:55:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUSAN, DO YOU CONCUR ON THAT?
02:55:46 MOST THINGS CAN BE WAIVED.
02:55:47 >>SIMONE SAVINO: SIMONE SAVINO, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:55:53 AS ABBYE WAS SAYING, THIS WOULD OPERATE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT
02:55:57 AND IT WOULD BE A CODE SECTION THAT IS APPLICABLE CITYWIDE.
02:56:01 SO, THEREFORE, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
02:56:03 COULD BE WAIVED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
02:56:05 IT WOULD JUST APPLY TO ALL.
02:56:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF I CAN.
02:56:11 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
02:56:13 JUST FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, I BELIEVE THE
02:56:17 UNIFORMITY OF IT WOULD ALLOW EASILY TO BE ENFORCED AS
02:56:23 OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SITE PLANS RIGHT NOW, WHICH
02:56:25 ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE BECAUSE IT'S ALL ON AN
02:56:29 INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
02:56:30 I SEE MS. FEELEY NODDING.
02:56:32 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER SHE WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT.
02:56:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THAT IS A GOOD POINT BUT BRINGS
02:56:36 UP ANOTHER POINT THAT I THINK NEEDS CLARIFICATION.
02:56:39 I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
02:56:41 IF WE CAN'T WAIVE IT, THEN YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S UNIFORM.
02:56:44 THEN IT BRINGS UP ANOTHER POINT, IF WE ALREADY APPROVED IT
02:56:47 WITH SPECIFICITY ON THE SITE PLANS, IS THAT AN EXCEPTION
02:56:51 THAT THEY ARE VESTED WITH OR DO THEY HAVE TO BACK DOWN TO
02:56:59 THE MIDNIGHT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR SITE PLAN SAYS?
02:57:04 I THINK THAT IS A LEGAL QUESTION.
02:57:12 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: COUNCIL MEMBERS, SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
02:57:12 IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE
02:57:14 DONE A SURVEY OF ALL OF THE WET ZONING OR AB PERMITS THAT
02:57:18 YOU'VE APPROVED, BUT TYPICALLY YOU REQUIRE AN EARLIER END TO
02:57:26 OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND ON YOUR WET ZONINGS.
02:57:29 SO THIS IS GOING TO, I THINK, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LENIENT
02:57:32 THAN WHAT YOU TYPICALLY ALLOW UNDER AB PERMITS FOR OUTDOOR
02:57:36 AMPLIFIED SOUND.
02:57:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE EXISTING PD SAID
02:57:44 NOISE WILL BE CONTROLLED UNDER CHAPTER 14, IF IT JUST SAID
02:57:49 THAT GENERICALLY, THEN ALL OF THOSE EXISTING PDs WILL HAVE
02:57:55 TO CONFORM TO THE NEW CHAPTER 14.
02:57:59 >> I BELIEVE YOU ARE SAYING ALL OF THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.
02:58:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.
02:58:07 >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF THE AB SAID CHAPTER 14, THEN, YES, THIS
02:58:09 WILL NOW BE PART OF CHAPTER 14.
02:58:10 I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALWAYS PART OF MS. CAPIN'S RATIONALE FOR
02:58:14 WANTING PEOPLE TO PUT THAT CHAPTER 14 ON THERE BECAUSE IF
02:58:17 THOSE MODIFICATIONS WERE THEN MADE ON BEHALF OF THIS
02:58:21 COUNCIL, THEN THAT IS WHAT WOULD CONTROL.
02:58:24 AND, YES, THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE IN CONTROL FOR THOSE
02:58:27 THAT HAVE THE CHAPTER 14, THAT IS CORRECT.
02:58:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
02:58:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME
02:58:40 PEOPLE WHO SAY, WELL, NOW YOU'RE RUINING OUR FUN.
02:58:43 HYPOTHETICALLY, IF FOUR GREEN FIELDS WANTS TO HAVE A
02:58:45 ST. PADDY'S DAY PARTY, THEY CAN STILL ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE
02:58:48 PERMIT TO HAVE THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC FOR THAT ONE DAY.
02:58:51 AND THAT KIND OF GETS THEM AROUND THIS?
02:58:53 I'M ONLY USING THEM AS AN EXAMPLE.
02:59:01 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS IS FOR OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND ONLY.
02:59:03 AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT WOULD
02:59:10 EXEMPT THAT.
02:59:11 THE THING I WOULD SAY TO COUNCIL IS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE ON
02:59:15 OUR PATH OF BEING UNIFORM AND PREDICTABLE, IF YOU HAVE OR
02:59:20 ARE DESIRING THAT ON CERTAIN DAYS OF THE YEAR, BE IT
02:59:26 GASPARILLA, SUPER BOWL, CINCO DE MAYO, ST. PATRICK'S DAY,
02:59:32 WHICH YOU'VE DONE ON MANY OF YOUR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, IF YOU
02:59:35 WANT TO EXTEND -- I'VE SEEN THIS DONE THROUGH MUCH OF MY
02:59:39 WORK IN PRIVATE SECTOR IN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, THERE ARE
02:59:44 CODES THAT SAY ON THESE SPECIFIED YEARS IT COULD GO TO
02:59:48 1 A.M.
02:59:49 OR IF THAT WERE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL, THAT COULD BE
02:59:52 AN AMENDMENT THAT COULD BE MADE AND BROUGHT BACK AS PART OF
02:59:55 THE ORDINANCE.
02:59:56 BUT, AGAIN, I WOULD HESITATE TO START TO ESTABLISH THE BAR
03:00:02 AND THEN START MOVING THE BAR.
03:00:03 YOU COULD STILL HAVE YOUR SOUND INSIDE AFTER MIDNIGHT, BUT
03:00:08 THE INTENT IS THAT AFTER MIDNIGHT, RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE
03:00:13 CITY, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN
03:00:16 THEIR HOMES AND NOT BE IMPACTED BY OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
03:00:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY, I THANK YOU SO MUCH ON THIS HARD
03:00:23 WORK.
03:00:23 I'M GLAD I'LL NEVER HAVE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AGAIN ABOUT
03:00:27 AN ESTABLISHMENT HAVING AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
03:00:29 THANK YOU, MR. FEELEY.
03:00:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOW YOU SAID INSIDE, MS. FEELEY, I THINK
03:00:35 YOU HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT IS INSIDE.
03:00:37 IT COULD BE INSIDE OF A TENT.
03:00:39 IT COULD BE INSIDE OF A BUILDING.
03:00:41 I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
03:00:47 IF YOU HAVE A STANDARD THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO CLOSE AT 12
03:00:50 AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT AMPLIFIED MUSIC BY
03:00:54 COMING TO THE COUNCIL AND SAYING YES, THEN IN ESSENCE YOU
03:00:57 HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING.
03:00:58 12:00 IS WHEN YOU CAN HAVE BEFORE MIDNIGHT, RIGHT AT
03:01:05 MIDNIGHT, YOU CAN'T HAVE NO MORE AMPLIFIED MUSIC OUTSIDE,
03:01:09 CORRECT?
03:01:09 >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS CORRECT.
03:01:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE, IF YOU HAVE A WAY OF SAYING ON
03:01:14 SPECIAL EVENTS IT CAN GO TO 1, THEN WHY CHANGE IT AT ALL?
03:01:17 IN OTHER WORDS, NO SENSE IN CHANGING IF EVERYBODY IS GOING
03:01:21 TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO 1:00.
03:01:25 >>ABBYE FEELEY: YOUR OPTIONS WOULD BE YOU COULD CODIFY IT TO
03:01:28 ALLOW THAT FOR EVERYONE ON THOSE DATES TILL 1:00, LIKE NEW
03:01:33 YEAR'S EVE.
03:01:34 I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
03:01:36 WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO YOU IS MIDNIGHT, 365 DAYS OF THE
03:01:42 YEAR, AND THAT IS WITH THE INTENT TO PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS
03:01:48 AND VISITORS WITH THAT QUALITY OF LIFE AND PEACEFULNESS TO
03:01:53 BE IN THEIR HOMES, HOTELS, WHEREVER IT IS AT THAT TIME, AND
03:01:57 THEN IF IT DOES NOT CORRESPOND NECESSARILY WITH THE HOURS OF
03:02:02 OPERATION OF AN ESTABLISHMENT.
03:02:05 THE HOURS OF OPERATION MAY STILL BE TILL 1:00, 2:00, BUT
03:02:09 AFTER MIDNIGHT, THERE'S NO MORE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
03:02:15 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, JUST TO EXPAND
03:02:18 ON THAT, CALL COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO SECTION 6 OF THE DRAFT
03:02:21 ORDINANCE WHERE WE CREATED THAT NEW SECTION 14-164, AND IT
03:02:26 PROHIBITS AMPLIFIED SOUND FROM THE OUTDOOR AREA OF ANY
03:02:31 PROPERTY.
03:02:31 WHETHER IT'S UNDER A PATIO OR A TENT, THE INTENT WAS IF IT'S
03:02:37 OUTDOORS, THEN AMPLIFIED SOUND IS PROHIBITED FROM THOSE
03:02:40 AREAS AFTER MIDNIGHT.
03:02:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, MR. MANISCALCO.
03:02:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD THIS APPLY TO RAYMOND JAMES
03:02:48 STADIUM?
03:02:51 DO THEY HAVE ANY EXEMPTIONS BEING THAT THEY ARE A LARGER
03:02:53 ARENA AND IT'S OPEN AIR, NOT ENCLOSED?
03:03:01 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THIS IS CURRENTLY FOR ANY PROPERTY
03:03:05 WITHIN THE CITY.
03:03:07 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE IS A LARGE CONCERT -- IT CAN'T
03:03:09 GO PAST MIDNIGHT THEN.
03:03:11 THEY WOULD NOT BE EXEMPT.
03:03:13 >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CORRECT.
03:03:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANKS.
03:03:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT MAY GO WITHOUT SAYING, BUT JUST A
03:03:23 REMINDER THAT IF COUNCIL DOES CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS
03:03:27 AND IT'S PUT ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT
03:03:31 FIRST READING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
03:03:34 COMMENT BEFORE IT COMES BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND
03:03:37 ADOPTION AT PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
03:03:39 FOR PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE YOU ADOPT THIS.
03:03:41 >>SIMONE SAVINO: ON BEHALF OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I JUST
03:03:45 WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PIECES OF INFORMATION.
03:03:49 WE'RE NOT MANIPULATING OR CHANGING SECTION 14-158 OF THE
03:03:53 NOISE ORDINANCE.
03:03:55 THAT CURRENTLY PROVIDES FOR SOME VERY SPECIFIC EXEMPTION.
03:03:59 SO I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD HERE THAT WE ACTUALLY
03:04:03 IN REGARDS TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S QUESTION, SUBSECTION 3
03:04:09 OF THAT ORDINANCE ACTUALLY SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY TO ACTIVITIES
03:04:12 IN THE FIELDS, GROUNDS, OR FACILITIES OF ANY SCHOOLS,
03:04:15 SPORTING ARENA, STADIUM, OR SPORTS COMPLEX.
03:04:18 SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T SEEN OR BEEN FACED WITH ANY
03:04:21 SPECIFIC NOISE CHALLENGES.
03:04:23 CURRENTLY, WE PROVIDE FOR EXEMPTION.
03:04:26 I WOULD JUST ASK EVERYONE TO REFRESH THEMSELVES FROM THAT
03:04:28 SECTION BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE
03:04:31 CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING RAISED RIGHT NOW.
03:04:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
03:04:41 WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
03:04:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN ITS MEMO
03:04:53 IS REQUESTING WHETHER COUNCIL -- OR THE DEPARTMENT, IF THE
03:04:57 COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE THIS GO FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS
03:04:59 OF HAVING IT PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDA FOR FIRST READING
03:05:02 CONSIDERATION.
03:05:03 IS THAT CORRECT, MS. FEELEY?
03:05:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MOVE THAT TO COME BACK
03:05:07 AND THEN WE HAVE FIRST READING AND LET THE PUBLIC COME IN
03:05:10 AND DISCUSS IT.
03:05:11 ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT.
03:05:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA HAS MADE A MOTION.
03:05:15 MR. CITRO SECONDED IT.
03:05:16 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:05:17 ANY OPPOSED?
03:05:18 ALL RIGHT.
03:05:21 WE'LL SIT BACK.
03:05:24 >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:05:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 99.
03:05:29 >> DID YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE A SPECIFIC DATE FOR THAT ITEM?
03:05:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: GO THROUGH SIRE, I BELIEVE.
03:05:34 WILL THAT BE PROCESSED THROUGH SIRE, MS. SAVINO?
03:05:38 IT WILL BE PROCESSED THROUGH SIRE.
03:05:41 IT WILL SHOW UP ON FIRST READING ON A FUTURE AGENDA, IS THAT
03:05:44 CORRECT?
03:05:47 >> YES.
03:05:48 >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
03:05:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 99.
03:05:58 >> MIKE SCHMID, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
03:06:00 I'M HERE ON ITEM 99.
03:06:01 ALSO PRESENT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM IS KEITH O'CONNOR AS WELL
03:06:10 AS MASTER PATROL OFFICER AMARI ELMORE IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR
03:06:18 ALONG WITH CAPTAIN RICHARD BLASIOLI.
03:06:20 WE ARE ALL HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THIS
03:06:23 AGENDA ITEM.
03:06:25 THE REQUEST WAS FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH REGARDS TO THE
03:06:29 PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD AND ALSO -- WHICH ALSO
03:06:32 SERVES AS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
03:06:34 I BELIEVE THE QUESTIONS RESOLVED AROUND THE ROLE OF THE
03:06:40 PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD AND WHETHER THE PUBLIC
03:06:44 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD, WHICH ALSO SERVES AS A CODE
03:06:47 ENFORCEMENT BOARD, COULD ESSENTIALLY, IF THERE WERE ANY MORE
03:06:53 ACTIVITIES, THAT THEY COULD PARTICIPATE IN OR ANY OTHER
03:06:56 ROLES THAT THEY COULD FUNCTION IN.
03:06:59 I THINK ONE THING THE BOARD, THAT WE CAN EXPLAIN TO CITY
03:07:03 COUNCIL HERE TODAY IS THAT THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC NUISANCE
03:07:07 ABATEMENT BOARD IS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT THIS BOARD
03:07:12 SERVES.
03:07:15 JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS, CAPTAIN BLASIOLI OVERSEES MPO
03:07:22 AMARI ELMORE.
03:07:24 AND SINCE 2019, WE'VE INCLUDED THIS IN OUR MEMO, THE NUMBERS
03:07:29 HERE.
03:07:30 BUT SINCE 2019, THERE HAVE BEEN 48 PUBLIC NUISANCE CASES
03:07:35 THAT HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
03:07:38 10 OF THOSE CASES DID NOT QUALIFY TO GO TO THE PUBLIC
03:07:40 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
03:07:43 38 INVESTIGATIONS WERE CONDUCTED WHERE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION
03:07:47 WAS ISSUED BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
03:07:49 OF THOSE, 35 PROPERTIES CAME INTO COMPLIANCE AND THE
03:07:54 NUISANCES WERE BELIEVED TO BE ABATED.
03:07:57 THE THREE REMAINING CASES RESULTED IN CASES BEING BROUGHT
03:08:00 BEFORE THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
03:08:03 AND ONE CASE IS STILL PRESENTLY PENDING BEFORE THE PUBLIC
03:08:07 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
03:08:08 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC
03:08:11 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD, CAPTAIN BLASIOLI AND OFFICER
03:08:16 ELMORE ARE PRESENT TO HELP ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
03:08:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PUBLIC
03:08:23 DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NUISANCE ABATEMENT AND
03:08:26 THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
03:08:28 BUT YET YOU'RE TELLING ME THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME.
03:08:31 I THINK THAT IS THE CONFUSION WITH THE PUBLIC OF WHY IS THIS
03:08:34 ONE AND THE SAME IF IT'S CHARACTERIZED IN OUR CODE AS A
03:08:37 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD AND YOU HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT
03:08:39 BOARD?
03:08:40 TO ME THAT'S TWO BOARDS WHEN I LOOK AT IT.
03:08:43 SO THAT'S THE CONFUSION WITH THE PUBLIC.
03:08:44 WHY IS THAT THE SAME?
03:08:46 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CASES, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE
03:08:50 CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, ONE CASE OUT OF A YEAR, I MEAN, I'M
03:08:54 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU HAVE ONE CASE OF CODE COMING TO
03:09:00 A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS GET SO MANY
03:09:05 CALLS IN REFERENCE TO CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
03:09:08 WHY NOT ARE SOME OF THESE CODE VIOLATIONS COMING TO THE CODE
03:09:11 ENFORCEMENT BOARD TO BE LOOKED AT OR HEARD OR SANCTIONED?
03:09:18 I HAVE A LADY, MS. TAYLOR, CALLING EVERY YEAR FOR TWO YEARS
03:09:21 SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE ABOUT LOUD MUSIC FROM THE RADIO
03:09:24 PLACE THERE ACROSS THE STREET.
03:09:25 I SIT OUTSIDE MY CAR, I HEARD IT.
03:09:27 I CALLED FREEMAN OVER.
03:09:29 HE HEARD IT.
03:09:30 WHY ISN'T THAT GOING TO A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SO THOSE
03:09:33 FOLKS CAN COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND GET SOME SANCTIONS OR
03:09:36 SOMETHING DONE?
03:09:37 THAT IS THE QUESTION FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHY ARE SOME
03:09:40 OF THESE VIOLATIONS NOT GOING TO A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD TO
03:09:43 BE DEALT WITH?
03:09:49 >>MICHAEL SCHMID: I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT.
03:09:53 CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SPECIAL MAGISTRATES SERVING IN
03:09:55 THE PLACE OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
03:09:58 OVER TIME WE HAVE FOUND THAT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES HAVE BEEN A
03:10:00 VERY EFFECTIVE PROCESS AT HANDLING CODE VIOLATIONS.
03:10:03 THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR CODE VIOLATIONS ARE TAKEN.
03:10:06 CODE VIOLATIONS CAN ALSO BE TAKEN TO COUNTY COURT AND A LOT
03:10:09 OF VIOLATIONS TAKEN TO COUNTY COURT EITHER FOR CIVIL
03:10:12 INFRACTIONS OR FOR IN THE COUNTY CRIMINAL COURT, IF DEEMED
03:10:17 APPROPRIATE.
03:10:17 THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AND THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT
03:10:20 BOARD ARE, IN FACT, TWO SEPARATE ROLES.
03:10:24 IT'S JUST THE SAME BOARD.
03:10:26 THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED BY
03:10:29 STATUTE AUTHORITY, AND THAT STATUTORY AUTHORITY WE, THE CITY
03:10:34 COUNCIL DECIDED THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD WOULD
03:10:38 SERVE AS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
03:10:40 BOARD ACTUALLY WOULD SERVE AS A PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT
03:10:43 BOARD.
03:10:44 SO OVER TIME, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD'S ROLE HAS SORT OF
03:10:50 BEEN DIMINISHED BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF STAFF THAT
03:10:54 MAGISTRATES WERE A BETTER, MORE EFFECTIVE WAY OF HANDLING A
03:10:58 LOT OF CODE VIOLATIONS.
03:11:02 HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD YOUR COMPLAINTS AS WELL AS SOME
03:11:05 CITIZENS, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS A ROLE
03:11:09 FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD TO TAKE ON.
03:11:12 ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH IN SPEAKING WITH
03:11:19 KEITH O'CONNOR, IS THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD COULD BE
03:11:24 UTILIZED FOR BRINGING PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT TYPE CASES
03:11:27 THAT AREN'T CRIMINAL IN NATURE.
03:11:29 PRESENTLY, PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD LOOKS AT CRIMINAL
03:11:35 TYPE CASES PRIMARILY.
03:11:37 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- AND THEY HAVE TO QUALIFY.
03:11:39 THEY HAVE TO HAVE TWO -- FOR EXAMPLE, TWO CRIMINAL DRUG
03:11:44 CASES THAT HAVE RESULTED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
03:11:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NORMALLY POLICE ARE HANDLING THOSE ISSUES.
03:11:52 CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT HANDLING A LOT OF --
03:11:59 >>MICHAEL SCHMID: YES, SIR.
03:11:59 THE POLICE HAVE BEEN HANDLING THE INVESTIGATIONS OF THE
03:12:01 PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD AND TAKING THE CASES THROUGH
03:12:04 THE MUNICIPAL PROSECUTOR FOR THE BOARD TO THE PUBLIC
03:12:09 NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
03:12:12 AND THAT IS -- IT'S AN ONEROUS PROCESS.
03:12:16 IT REQUIRES A LOT OF INVESTIGATION, A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF
03:12:20 REFERRAL.
03:12:21 REFERRALS START BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
03:12:22 THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET TO THE CORRECT UNIT, AND THEN IT
03:12:26 GETS FULLY INVESTIGATED.
03:12:28 A COMPLAINT GETS ISSUED. SO THESE ARE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S
03:12:31 NOT A HIGH NUMBER OF CASES THAT GO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD ARE
03:12:36 LITIGATED AND ARE OFTEN IN FRONT OF THAT BOARD FOR A PERIOD
03:12:41 OF A YEAR.
03:12:43 THEY HAVE ONE YEAR JURISDICTION AND THAT BOARD MEETS ON A
03:12:46 FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS TO LOOK AT THE CASES BROUGHT THERE.
03:12:49 WHEN THEY ARE BROUGHT THERE, I BELIEVE THEY ARE HIGHLY
03:12:51 EFFECTIVE.
03:12:52 THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WOULD WANT TO BRING OTHER
03:12:54 CASES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY QUALIFY FOR THAT BOARD, BUT
03:12:59 MAYBE THEY SHOULD QUALIFY FOR ANOTHER BOARD.
03:13:01 SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH KEITH
03:13:03 O'CONNOR ON IS CREATING AN AFFIDAVIT ONLINE WHERE THE PUBLIC
03:13:09 WOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLETE AN AFFIDAVIT REQUESTING A CERTAIN
03:13:13 NUISANCE PROPERTY BE LOOKED AT.
03:13:16 BASED ON THE SWORN COMPLAINT BY THE PERSON ONLINE, IT WOULD
03:13:19 BE SENT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY.
03:13:25 THEY DEEMED THAT THERE IS A VIOLATION BASED ON THE
03:13:27 COMPLAINT, THEY COULD ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO BRING
03:13:31 IT IN FRONT OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
03:13:33 AND THAT WOULD BE ISSUED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
03:13:36 AND THE PROPERTY OWNER THEN WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE CODE
03:13:40 ENFORCEMENT BOARD TO CONSIDER WHETHER THAT PROPERTY IS A
03:13:45 NUISANCE AND WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
03:13:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I THINK
03:13:50 THE BOARD WON'T THINK YOU ARE WASTING THEIR VOLUNTEER TIME
03:13:54 HEARING ONE CASE A YEAR.
03:13:56 KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES IN THE CITY, WHEN I
03:13:59 HEARD THAT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS CRAZY.
03:14:02 I'M GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW AT SOME OF THE NONCRIMINAL
03:14:05 CASES, SMALLER CASES.
03:14:07 USUALLY PEOPLE GET THAT KIND OF NOTICE, I HAVE TO GO BEFORE
03:14:09 THE BOARD, I'M GOING TO CLEAN MY ACT UP NOW, YOU KNOW.
03:14:12 I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT A SYSTEM
03:14:16 TOGETHER TO HELP OUR OFFICERS OUT AS WELL, THAT THERE IS A
03:14:20 WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE YOUR COMPLAINT, NOT ANONYMOUSLY, BUT
03:14:24 MAKE YOUR COMPLAINT KNOWN AND THAT WAY IT'S LEGAL.
03:14:28 IT'S THERE.
03:14:29 WE GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT.
03:14:31 BRING IT TO THE BOARD AND LET THE BOARD LOOK AT IT AND NOW
03:14:33 WE HAVE A LEGITIMATE, WHAT I FEEL -- YOU HAVE A LEGITIMATE
03:14:36 BOARD BUT YOU HAVE A BOARD NOW WHO FEELS THAT THEY ARE
03:14:38 WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE
03:14:41 GETTING SERVICES NOW.
03:14:42 I'M GLAD WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT.
03:14:45 I SEE MR. MANISCALCO SHAKING HIS HEAD OVER THERE.
03:14:49 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
03:14:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:14:51 I WAS ON THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
03:14:55 LIKE WE DO WITH THE CRA, IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE.
03:14:58 CLOSE ONE SET OF BOOKS, OPEN ANOTHER.
03:15:00 IT WAS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND ABATEMENT BOARD.
03:15:02 IF I REMEMBER, WE MAY BE -- WE MAYBE ACTED IN THAT ROLE
03:15:06 TWICE IN THREE YEARS.
03:15:08 I REMEMBER ONE OF THE CASES IT WAS A MOTEL ON NEBRASKA, BUT
03:15:11 OTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS GENERALLY QUIET.
03:15:14 AND BACK THEN, WE WOULD MEET ALMOST MONTHLY BUT THERE WASN'T
03:15:21 THAT MUCH GOING ON.
03:15:22 YOU THINK A CITY THIS BIG, WHEN WE SAY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
03:15:25 CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, YOU WOULD THINK WE ARE
03:15:27 OVERLOADED, BUT THESE BOARDS, GENERALLY IT IS QUIET.
03:15:30 I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. SCHMID IS PROPOSING.
03:15:33 PERHAPS IT IS A BETTER ROUTE TO TAKE BECAUSE WE GET
03:15:36 COMPLAINTS IN OUR OFFICES AND WHY ISN'T THIS LOOKED AT OR
03:15:39 THAT DONE?
03:15:41 PERHAPS THIS WOULD HELP THE PROCESS.
03:15:43 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
03:15:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THAT'S BECAUSE YOU
03:15:46 WERE ON THE BOARD.
03:15:47 IF YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A MAGISTRATE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT,
03:15:49 YOU WOULD HAVE HEARD 70 CASES PER DAY.
03:15:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I TOOK THE EASY ROUTE.
03:15:56 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M ALL FOR THIS.
03:15:59 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
03:16:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS?
03:16:08 MR. SCHMID, I'M HOPING YOU GUYS BRING SOMETHING BACK TO US
03:16:11 SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
03:16:12 WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON IN THE CITY, AND I THINK
03:16:17 THIS WILL KIND OF HELP US A LITTLE BIT.
03:16:20 OUR CONSTITUENTS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HAPPIER.
03:16:23 THEY NOW HAVE AN OUTLET TO VENT THEIR FRUSTRATIONS AND
03:16:25 ACTUALLY SEE SOMETHING GETTING DONE AND THINK THAT WE'RE NOT
03:16:28 DOING OUR JOB OR THE CITY IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
03:16:31 I'M HOPING -- WHAT ARE WE LOOKING?
03:16:34 30, 90 DAYS TO GET THIS MOVING?
03:16:36 WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
03:16:39 >>MICHAEL SCHMID: YES, SIR.
03:16:40 WE THINK -- KEITH O'CONNOR IS PRESENT, AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN
03:16:45 GET THIS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 90 DAYS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE
03:16:49 TO DRAFT AN AFFIDAVIT AND GET SOMETHING ONLINE AND FIGURE
03:16:51 OUT THE PROCESSES NEEDED TO GET THIS ROLLING.
03:16:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES KEITH WANT TO SPEAK?
03:17:05 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:17:06 KEITH O'CONNOR, MANAGER NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
03:17:09 I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT MIKE SCHMID SAID.
03:17:14 I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
03:17:15 I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO THINK THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING THE
03:17:17 CASES.
03:17:18 THEY ALL GO TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
03:17:20 THAT HAPPENED ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO, BUT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF
03:17:25 TRYING SOMETHING TO GET USE OUT OF THE BOARD SINCE IT'S
03:17:28 ALREADY SEATED, WE COULD GET THESE CASES TO GO THERE.
03:17:31 AND THE CASES HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT INVOLVE MULTIPLE
03:17:34 CITIZENS, AND THEY WOULD COLLECT THE EVIDENCE LIKE A BARKING
03:17:38 DOG, WHERE THEY HAVE THE EVIDENCE ON THEIR CELL PHONE AND
03:17:40 THEY WANT TO GET THEIR VOICE HEARD AND THEY CAN COME BEFORE
03:17:42 THE BOARD.
03:17:43 I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, AND WE CAN GET STARTED WITH SOME
03:17:46 TEST CASES TO SEE HOW IT WORKS.
03:17:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ESPECIALLY THAT STORE ON HILLSBOROUGH
03:17:51 AVENUE, THAT MUSIC STORE.
03:17:52 SHE'S RINGING MY PHONE OFF THE HOOK ABOUT THAT STORE ON
03:17:55 HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
03:18:01 >> SIMONE SAVINO, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:18:03 I JUST WANTED TO SECOND WHAT MR. O'CONNOR JUST MENTIONED
03:18:06 THAT IN TERMS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, EVERY WEDNESDAY WE HAVE
03:18:09 HEARINGS ALL DAY.
03:18:10 I'M THERE PERSONALLY.
03:18:12 AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES GO, THEY HAVE
03:18:16 HEAVY AGENDAS.
03:18:17 CASES HAVE JUST BEEN PREVIOUSLY MOVED FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT
03:18:20 BOARD TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
03:18:22 I DON'T WANT TO HARP ON THAT TOO MUCH, BUT I DO WANT YOU
03:18:25 GUYS TO KNOW THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY BEING HEARD.
03:18:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
03:18:29 I'VE COME IN AND I'VE SEEN THE LINE IN HERE IN REFERENCE TO
03:18:34 THAT, SIMONE.
03:18:35 WE'RE NOT DEBATING THAT.
03:18:36 I'M LOOKING AT THE SMALLER NUISANCE SMALL THINGS THAT COULD
03:18:39 PROBABLY COME BEFORE THAT BOARD AND PEOPLE GET A LITTLE
03:18:42 FEAR, OKAY, WELL, I NEED TO STRAIGHTEN MY ACT UP AND MOVE
03:18:45 ALONG.
03:18:46 I DO UNDERSTAND WE'RE WORKING.
03:18:50 SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC, THEY WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE SOMETIMES.
03:18:53 AND SOMETIMES WE'VE GOT TO GIVE IT TO THEM.
03:18:55 I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A WAY TO GIVE THEM AN OUTLET TO VENT
03:18:58 AND GET SOME OF THOSE OTHER CASES HEARD.
03:19:02 >> SIMONE: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
03:19:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL WAIT TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU IN 30 TO
03:19:09 90 DAYS.
03:19:10 >> THANK YOU.
03:19:10 NUMBER 100, SIR.
03:19:25 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
03:19:27 LaCHONE DOCK HERE WITH THE CITY PLANNING.
03:19:32 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
03:19:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT YOU.
03:19:34 WE SEE YOU.
03:19:35 >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:19:37 COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY IN ALLOWING
03:19:39 ME TO COME BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM.
03:19:42 THIS IS AN ITEM REGARDING TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLES.
03:19:46 AND I DO BELIEVE I HAVE A PowerPoint THAT WAS PROVIDED, IF
03:19:51 THAT COULD BE BROUGHT UP.
03:19:53 IF I CAN HAVE THE PowerPoint, PLEASE.
03:20:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT YOU, MADAM CLERK, OR CTTV?
03:20:44 I THINK CTTV IS WORKING ON IT.
03:20:46 MR. SHELBY, COULD YOU CHECK AND SEE IF CTTV HAS GOT
03:21:06 MS. LaCHONE DOCK'S PRESENTATION?
03:21:08 THANK YOU, SIR.
03:21:14 >>LaCHONE DOCK: IF YOU LIKE, COUNCIL, I CAN START.
03:21:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S COMING UP RIGHT NOW.
03:21:18 OKAY.
03:21:20 WE'VE GOT IT.
03:21:23 >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
03:21:24 COUNCIL, ON THIS ITEM, YOU MAY RECALL AT THE END OF JANUARY,
03:21:38 COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO COME BACK WITH OPTIONS REGARDING
03:21:42 TEXT AMENDMENT PROCESSING IN THOSE CYCLES.
03:21:45 THIS REQUEST WAS MADE IN AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL'S
03:21:51 CONCERN REGARDING PRIVATELY INITIATED AND PUBLICLY INITIATED
03:21:57 TEXT AMENDMENTS AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS
03:22:01 AN AMENDMENT OUTSIDE OF A TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE.
03:22:03 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:22:05 IN MAY, STAFF PRESENTED AN OPTION TO COUNCIL, AND ONE WAS TO
03:22:15 PROVIDE TWO PUBLICLY INITIATED CYCLES AND ANOTHER WAS TO
03:22:19 PROVIDE TWO PRIVATELY INITIATED CYCLES.
03:22:21 AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO CONDUCT PUBLIC
03:22:26 OUTREACH.
03:22:27 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:22:28 COUNCIL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST TAKE A SECOND, JUST
03:22:37 TO TAKE A STEP BACK REGARDING THE CURRENT PROCESS AND WHAT'S
03:22:42 CURRENTLY IN THE CODE.
03:22:43 CURRENTLY, WHEN TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE PROCESSED, THERE IS
03:22:46 CONFUSION REGARDING THE REQUEST, AND THIS MAY BE REGARDING
03:22:51 THE TYPE OF REQUEST, WHETHER IT IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED OR
03:22:54 A PUBLICLY INITIATED REQUEST.
03:22:57 ALSO, THERE'S SOMETIMES CONFUSION REGARDING THE CYCLE THAT
03:23:00 THE REQUEST RUNS WITH.
03:23:04 IN AN EFFORT, WHAT STAFF IS -- HAS TRIED TO DO WITH WHAT
03:23:09 WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO ACTUALLY JUST BRING
03:23:12 SOME CLARITY TO THAT PROCESS.
03:23:14 SO STAFF'S INITIAL RECOMMENDATION OF THE TWO PUBLIC
03:23:18 PROCESSES AND THEN THE TWO PRIVATE PROCESSES, THAT WAS
03:23:21 PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN MAY AT THAT WORKSHOP.
03:23:24 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:23:24 BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS HELD.
03:23:37 THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS CONDUCTED IN THE FORM OF A PUBLIC
03:23:39 INFORMATION MEETING SESSION, AND THAT WAS TO INTRODUCE THE
03:23:42 IDEA TO THE PUBLIC, RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
03:23:46 STAFF CAME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REPORTED BACK THE RESULTS OF
03:23:49 THAT SESSION.
03:23:51 AFTER THAT MEETING, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCILMAN
03:23:54 DINGFELDER AND STAFF, WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU BRINGING THE
03:23:58 OPTION TO YOU TODAY, WHICH WE BELIEVE WOULD ADDRESS
03:24:02 COUNCIL'S CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROCESSING OF AMENDMENTS.
03:24:06 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:24:07 WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE, COUNCIL, WE'RE LOOKING TO
03:24:14 PROVIDE CONSISTENCY AND TO SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS.
03:24:17 AND THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IS TO PROVIDE TWO PUBLIC CYCLES,
03:24:23 SO THAT WOULD BE TWO CYCLES THAT WOULD CONTAIN PUBLICLY
03:24:27 INITIATED AMENDMENTS, AND ALSO TO INCORPORATE AND PROVIDE A
03:24:33 MID CYCLE AMENDMENT.
03:24:35 AND THIS WOULD GIVE AN OPTION TO ADDRESS THOSE CRITICAL,
03:24:39 STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.
03:24:40 AND THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IF NEEDED, AND THOSE WOULD BE
03:24:43 ITEMS THAT COULD NOT WAIT FOR THE NORMAL CYCLE.
03:24:47 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:24:48 SO THE INTENT IS TO HOLD TWO PUBLIC CYCLES.
03:24:55 THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR REQUESTS TO BE SUBMITTED TO CITY
03:24:59 COUNCIL OR FOR PROCESSING, AS DIRECTED BY THE CODE
03:25:02 ADMINISTRATOR.
03:25:02 CURRENTLY, COUNCIL, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND
03:25:06 NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A
03:25:09 PRIVATE INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
03:25:12 AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
03:25:15 SOMETIMES THEY CANNOT PAY THE FEE.
03:25:18 WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS THOSE
03:25:20 ORGANIZATIONS OR EVEN A PRIVATE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN
03:25:24 SUBMIT THROUGH COUNCIL.
03:25:25 AND BASED UPON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO STAFF, IT WOULD BE
03:25:29 PROCESSED THAT WAY.
03:25:30 YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR REQUEST THAT WE ARE ALSO ALLOWING, OF
03:25:35 COURSE, THE TIME, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE ALLOWING FOR
03:25:40 OUT-OF-CYCLE REQUESTS AND THAT WAY COUNCIL IS NOT WAITING ON
03:25:44 THAT NEXT CYCLE TO SUBMIT A CHANGE TO THE CODE.
03:25:48 AND THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE AND NOT ALLOWED IN THE
03:25:52 CURRENT CODE.
03:25:54 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:25:56 FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO
03:26:00 MENTION, BECAUSE I WAS ASKED THIS PRIOR TO THIS HEARING
03:26:05 TODAY, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM
03:26:08 STAFF.
03:26:09 THIS IS NOT TODAY THE WORKSHOP FOR THIS LANGUAGE.
03:26:14 THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL, AND WE'RE WAITING ON
03:26:17 DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
03:26:18 BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT STAFF IS PREPARED TO START
03:26:21 PROCESSING THESE CHANGES IMMEDIATELY IF IT IS COUNCIL'S
03:26:25 DESIRE.
03:26:26 JUST KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE STILL HAVE TO CONDUCT PUBLIC
03:26:29 OUTREACH, SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC
03:26:32 INFORMATION MEETING SESSION.
03:26:34 WE WILL STILL NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CITY COUNCIL
03:26:39 WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE ITEM AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC A CHANCE
03:26:41 TO PROVIDE COMMENT.
03:26:42 BUT IF IT IS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO
03:26:47 PROPOSE THAT STAFF MOVE FORWARD ON THE CHANGES THAT ARE
03:26:50 PRESENTED TODAY, THIS WOULD BE THE PROPOSED TIMELINE, THE
03:26:53 TENTATIVE TIMELINE FOR PROCESSING.
03:26:54 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:26:58 COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
03:27:01 I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
03:27:04 I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:27:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY DISCUSSION?
03:27:10 MR. DINGFELDER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
03:27:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I WOULD LIKE TO
03:27:18 MAKE A MOTION.
03:27:19 TO DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION
03:27:26 AND THE STAFF TIMELINE AS PRESENTED TO US BY MS. DOCK.
03:27:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
03:27:33 IS THERE A SECOND?
03:27:33 MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED IT.
03:27:37 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:27:38 ANY OPPOSED?
03:27:40 MS. WELLS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
03:27:46 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THAT MOTION, I
03:27:49 JUST WANT TO CONFIRM FOR THE RECORD THAT WE WOULD THEN BE
03:27:51 WORKSHOPPING THIS ORDINANCE ON SEPTEMBER 23rd.
03:27:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, CORRECT.
03:28:01 >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
03:28:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, THERE WAS
03:28:04 A SECOND, THERE WAS A VOTE.
03:28:06 IT WAS UNANIMOUS, CORRECT, MADAM CLERK?
03:28:09 MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
03:28:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO CONFIRM, THAT WAS IN THE
03:28:14 GUIDELINES ON YOUR PowerPoint.
03:28:15 I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK, IS THAT TO BE ADDED TO THE SEPTEMBER
03:28:19 23rd WORKSHOP AS A RESULT OF THE MOTION?
03:28:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS IT WAS ALREADY ON THE WORKSHOP.
03:28:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
03:28:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. WELLS, WAS THAT ALREADY ON THE
03:28:28 WORKSHOP?
03:28:29 OR IS IT TO BE ADDED?
03:28:32 >>CATE WELLS: NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY SCHEDULED
03:28:34 FOR A WORKSHOP.
03:28:35 THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
03:28:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
03:28:38 MY MOTION SAID --
03:28:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY ON THERE?
03:28:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK
03:28:44 AT SEPTEMBER 23rd WORKSHOP.
03:28:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN ORDER TO STAY ON THE TIMELINE AND GET
03:28:49 THIS DONE, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ON THERE.
03:28:52 THAT'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
03:28:53 IF WE DELAY IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THIS OUT EVEN
03:28:58 FURTHER, WHICH I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS.
03:28:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S TRUE.
03:29:00 LOOKING AT YOUR SEPTEMBER 23rd WORKSHOP, IF IT'S COUNCIL'S
03:29:04 PLEASURE, YOU ALSO HAVE AN EVENING MEETING AGAIN THAT NIGHT,
03:29:07 5:01.
03:29:09 THAT'S FINE.
03:29:13 AS LONG AS COUNCIL DOES IT WILLINGLY, KNOWINGLY,
03:29:17 VOLUNTARILY, NO ONE CAN COMPLAIN.
03:29:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MS. DOCK.
03:29:23 >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:29:34 >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD EVENING, AGAIN, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL,
03:29:36 LaCHONE DOCK, AGAIN, WITH CITY PLANNING.
03:29:39 COUNCIL, ITEM 101 IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
03:29:43 THE APPLICANT IS STEVE MICHELINI AND JOHN LUM.
03:29:48 THIS REQUEST WAS HEARD BEFORE COUNCIL AT WORKSHOP, AND THIS
03:29:52 WAS IN JUNE.
03:29:54 COUNCIL DIRECTED THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME TO CONDUCT
03:29:56 PUBLIC OUTREACH, AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE.
03:30:00 AND I BELIEVE STEVE IS ONLINE, AND HE IS READY.
03:30:04 HE IS GOING TO REVIEW THE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT HE COMPLETED,
03:30:07 AND THEN ALSO REVIEW HIS REQUEST WITH YOU.
03:30:10 I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO STEVE MICHELINI NOW.
03:30:14 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:30:16 I'M ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
03:30:19 WE HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION THAT'S QUEUED UP.
03:30:22 BUT BEFORE WE START, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE YOU THAT ITEM
03:30:28 NUMBER 8 AND 9, WHICH WAS THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY AND THE
03:30:31 WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICTS, BOTH OF THOSE TEXT AMENDMENTS
03:30:35 HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION.
03:30:39 SO WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR REMAINING REQUESTS FOR TEXT
03:30:47 AMENDMENTS FOR REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL APPROVE.
03:30:51 THIS IS APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD.
03:30:55 IT WILL STILL COME BACK TO YOU, STILL GOES TO THE PLANNING
03:31:00 COMMISSION.
03:31:00 THERE'S ADDITIONAL TIME FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PUBLIC AS
03:31:04 WELL AS ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.
03:31:06 WE DID CONDUCT A ZOOM MEETING WITH THAN, AND THEY INVITED
03:31:14 THEIR MEMBERS.
03:31:16 THAT WAS ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO.
03:31:20 WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FORMAL COMMENTS FROM THAN.
03:31:24 WE DID RECEIVE ONE E-MAIL FROM THE DAVIS ISLANDS CIVIC
03:31:27 ASSOCIATION, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS TRANSMITTED TO YOU.
03:31:29 WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THE REQUESTS NOW OR CUE UP
03:31:38 THE PowerPoint?
03:31:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S ON YOU, SIR.
03:31:41 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WOULD YOU PLEASE CUE UP THE PowerPoint,
03:31:43 PLEASE?
03:31:43 OKAY.
03:31:55 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
03:31:57 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DON'T SEE IT UP HERE ON THE DAIS,
03:31:59 GENTLEMEN.
03:31:59 THERE WE GO.
03:32:01 WE GOT IT.
03:32:01 >>STEVE MICHELINI: NEXT SLIDE.
03:32:03 OKAY.
03:32:09 THE FIRST REQUEST IS THE CALCULATION FOR BUILDINGS WITHIN
03:32:16 TYPICALLY AN APARTMENT OR A TOWN HOUSE-STYLE PROJECT.
03:32:20 THIS DOES NOT ALTER IN ANY RESPECT THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS OR
03:32:25 THE FRONT OR THE REAR YARD SETBACKS FOR ANY OF THE
03:32:29 BUILDINGS.
03:32:29 THERE IS EXTENSIVE CALCULATION THAT IS REQUIRED, THAT
03:32:34 REQUIRES YOU TO MULTIPLY THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING TIMES
03:32:38 THE HEIGHT AND THE WIDTH.
03:32:40 WE RAN INTO THIS PROBLEM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND WE HAD THREE
03:32:46 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, TWO FROM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, ONE
03:32:50 FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT -- ACTUALLY, TWO FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT
03:32:52 COORDINATION AND OUR OWN ENGINEERS, AND WHEN THEY DID THE
03:32:55 CALCULATIONS, THEY COULD NOT COME UP WITH THE SAME NUMBER
03:33:00 WHAT THE SEPARATIONS WERE, WHICH FORCED THESE PROJECTS TO GO
03:33:04 TO A VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
03:33:06 SO WHAT WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO THE CITY STAFF ABOUT WAS
03:33:10 TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD SETBACK WHICH WOULD BE 15 FEET,
03:33:14 MINIMUM SEPARATION BETWEEN BUILDINGS WITHIN A COMPLEX AND
03:33:19 OBVIOUSLY IF THERE WERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, IT WOULD BE
03:33:22 MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT'S A MINIMUM OF A 15 FEET SEPARATION
03:33:27 BETWEEN EXISTING -- BETWEEN PROPOSED BUILDINGS.
03:33:31 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO
03:33:37 NEXT ONE?
03:33:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
03:33:41 >>STEVE MICHELINI: AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE
03:33:44 ADJACENT PROPERTY SETBACKS OR HEIGHT.
03:33:46 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THAT.
03:33:48 NOW WE'RE ON THE SECOND REQUEST, WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL
03:33:55 STANDARD TO AMEND THE BUILDING SETBACK, THE HEIGHT
03:33:59 REGULATIONS REGARDING RM-24.
03:34:02 RM-24 IS THE ONLY ZONING DISTRICT THAT HAS A 30-FOOT HEIGHT
03:34:07 RESTRICTION.
03:34:08 THIS WOULD AMEND THAT AND YOU COULD BUILD IN A MULTIFAMILY
03:34:15 ZONING DISTRICT TO 35 FEET, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RS
03:34:22 50, RS 60, RS 75, RS 100, RS 175 AND SO FORTH.
03:34:29 THIS IS THE ONLY DISTRICT INCLUDING RM 18.
03:34:33 THIS IS THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT HAS A 30-FOOT HEIGHT
03:34:36 RESTRICTION, AND WE WERE REQUESTING, WHICH ALSO HAS STAFF
03:34:40 REPORT, TO MAKE THAT A 35-FOOT HEIGHT.
03:34:45 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS?
03:34:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
03:34:54 PROCEED.
03:34:56 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE THIRD REQUEST IS TO ELIMINATE THE
03:35:00 REQUIREMENT FOR VISITOR PARKING FOR DUPLEXES ONLY.
03:35:03 AS THE CALCULATION IS CURRENTLY MADE, A DUPLEX WHICH HAS
03:35:10 TWO-CAR GARAGES AND TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY IS REQUIRED TO
03:35:14 HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR VISITOR PARKING.
03:35:17 THAT VISITOR PARKING AND, REMEMBER, THESE ARE TYPICALLY
03:35:22 SMALLER LOTS, BUT THAT REQUIRES THE ADDITIONAL VISITOR
03:35:28 PARKING SPACE, IT WILL TAKE UP GREENSPACE AND IT ALLOWS --
03:35:34 WHAT IT'S DOING IS MAKING YOU REQUEST A WAIVER FOR
03:35:37 GREENSPACE AND PAYING INTO THE REPLACEMENT FUND FOR
03:35:41 GREENSPACES.
03:35:42 WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE VISITOR PARKING FOR DUPLEXES BE
03:35:46 ELIMINATED.
03:35:47 ANYTHING OVER TWO UNITS WOULD REQUIRE TO HAVE A VISITOR
03:35:53 SPACE.
03:35:54 TWO UNITS OR LESS WOULD NOT.
03:35:56 IT HAS BEEN BECOMING A PROBLEM WITH THE AVAILABLE SPACE THAT
03:36:01 THESE LOTS HAVE WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY PROVIDING FOUR SPACES
03:36:05 FOR EACH OF THE UNITS.
03:36:07 WE DIDN'T THINK THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER VISITOR
03:36:11 SPACE.
03:36:11 IF YOU SELL THESE UNITS IN FEE SIMPLE, IT BECOMES
03:36:14 COMPLICATED REGARDING WHO OWNS IT, WHO MAINTAINS IT.
03:36:18 IT'S A FAIRLY MUCH SIMPLER PROCESS IF YOU DON'T REQUIRE IT.
03:36:25 AGAIN, STAFF SUPPORTED THIS REQUEST.
03:36:27 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS?
03:36:32 IS.
03:36:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
03:36:33 YOU MAY PROCEED.
03:36:35 >>STEVE MICHELINI: MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOUSE STYLE PROJECTS,
03:36:40 SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE CODE WAS CHANGED TO REQUIRE THAT ALL
03:36:45 TOWN HOUSE PROJECTS, THAT THE DOORS FACE A RIGHT-OF-WAY.
03:36:51 IF YOU HAVE A COURTYARD, THEN THOSE DOORWAYS WOULD FACE AN
03:36:54 INTERNAL COURTYARD, WHICH IS HISTORICALLY ANOTHER METHOD OF
03:37:00 ACHIEVING INTERIOR GREENSPACE.
03:37:03 IT ALSO WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE COURTYARD PRIVATE AND A NICER
03:37:12 AMENITY SO THAT THE UNITS FACING INTERIOR HAS A NOISE
03:37:16 REDUCTION ELEMENT ATTACHED TO IT AS WELL.
03:37:18 THIS AGAIN WOULD NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY
03:37:25 OWNERS.
03:37:26 IT SIMPLY MEANS THAT YOU WOULD WALK THROUGH A GATEWAY.
03:37:29 IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE ADDRESSING.
03:37:31 IT WILL NOT AFFECT LIFE SAFETY OR FIRE PROTECTION.
03:37:36 IT WILL NOT BE ADVERSELY AFFECTING ANYTHING.
03:37:38 AGAIN, STAFF IS SUPPORTING THIS.
03:37:40 AND WE BELIEVE IT'S A MINOR MODIFICATION.
03:37:45 TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT A DESIGN
03:37:49 EXCEPTION FOR ELEMENTS LIKE THIS ONE OR LIKE THE OFF-STREET
03:37:52 PARKING FOR VISITOR PARKING, OR FOR THE CALCULATION FOR THE
03:37:59 FIRST REQUEST THAT WE PUT IN OR FOR THE HEIGHT CHANGE THAT
03:38:04 I'VE REFERENCED BEFORE.
03:38:06 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS?
03:38:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
03:38:16 THE AVERAGE ALLOWED SETBACK AT 20 FOOT FOR A BLOCK AVERAGE,
03:38:18 WHICHEVER IS LESS.
03:38:20 >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE'VE ELIMINATED THOSE TWO, MR. MIRANDA.
03:38:22 THE EAST TAMPA AND THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
03:38:26 THEY NEED MORE WORK, AND THE EAST TAMPA JUST GOT SOME NEW
03:38:32 ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THE WEST TAMPA CRAs, AND THEY
03:38:37 ASKED US TO PULL THOSE SO THAT WE COULD STUDY THEM FURTHER.
03:38:40 SO WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THEM.
03:38:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: EAST TAMPA HAS THE NEW MANAGEMENT, BUT EAST
03:38:45 TAMPA ALSO, I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL RECENTLY HAD PAID FOR A TEXT
03:38:49 AMENDMENT, AND IT WAS NEVER COMPLETED OR DONE.
03:38:51 I THINK NOW THEY HAVE SOME PEOPLE NOW THAT COME ON BOARD
03:38:55 THAT REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND UNDERSTAND ABOUT
03:38:58 OVERLAYS AND SO FORTH, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE WORKING
03:39:02 WITH MR. McCRAY TO KIND OF MOVE THAT FORWARD NOW IN THE
03:39:06 RIGHT DIRECTION.
03:39:06 I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE AT THIS TIME.
03:39:12 >>STEVE MICHELINI: ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION TO
03:39:14 COUNCIL IS ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS STARTED OVER TWO YEARS
03:39:18 AGO.
03:39:18 AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN ADMINISTRATION
03:39:20 AND HOW THESE VARIOUS PROJECTS WERE ADMINISTERED.
03:39:25 AND, QUITE HONESTLY, SOME OF THE, AS MR. GUDES HAD POINTED
03:39:29 OUT, SOME OF THE DEADLINES HAD BEEN MISSED AND WE WERE ASKED
03:39:34 TO INCLUDE THEM IN OUR PETITION.
03:39:36 SO IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, WITH BOTH THE EAST TAMPA AND
03:39:39 WEST TAMPA, WE'VE MUTUALLY AGREED TO WITHDRAW THEM SO THAT
03:39:43 THERE WAS NO CONFUSION AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO
03:39:47 WORK OUT THEIR OWN DETAILS ON HOW THEY WANTED THIS
03:39:49 ADDRESSED.
03:39:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE ONLY THING I SEE HERE IS VISITOR
03:39:59 PARKING FOR DUPLEX ONLY.
03:40:00 HOW MANY SPACES EACH DUPLEX, ONE OR TWO?
03:40:03 >>STEVE MICHELINI: TWO IN THE GARAGE AND TWO IN THE
03:40:05 DRIVEWAY.
03:40:05 FOUR FOR EACH UNIT.
03:40:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER.
03:40:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MICHELINI, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT,
03:40:16 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DUPLEXES, THERE ARE SOME DUPLEXES THAT
03:40:22 ARE THE OLD-SCHOOL DUPLEXES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY INDOOR
03:40:26 PARKING AT ALL.
03:40:27 ISN'T THAT CORRECT, MS. DOCK?
03:40:29 I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE
03:40:31 COVERED PARKING.
03:40:36 >>STEVE MICHELINI: ARE YOU ASKING LaCHONE OR ME?
03:40:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, YOU CAN ANSWER, STEVE, IF I'M
03:40:41 TALKING ABOUT THE WRONG THING.
03:40:43 YOU SIGH DUPLEXES, I THINK ABOUT OLD-SCHOOL DUPLEXES THAT
03:40:47 DON'T EVEN HAVE GARAGES AT ALL.
03:40:49 >>STEVE MICHELINI: RIGHT.
03:40:50 THIS ONLY AFFECTS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
03:40:52 IT'S NOT RETROACTIVE TO EXISTING CONSTRUCTION.
03:40:56 I NOTICED THAT ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT CAME IN REFERENCED
03:41:01 EXISTING CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS VARIANCES AND WAIVERS THAT
03:41:06 HAVE BEEN GRANTED.
03:41:08 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I KNOW IT'S JUST NEW CONSTRUCTION.
03:41:09 MY POINT IS, I REMEMBER WE HAD A CASE -- I DON'T KNOW --
03:41:11 WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, IT WAS OVER IN EAST TAMPA OUT TOWARD
03:41:15 50th STREET AND THERE WAS AN OLD-SCHOOL DUPLEX, AND I
03:41:19 THINK IT WAS A PD.
03:41:20 THEY WERE BUILDING IT NEW, BUT IT WAS AN OLD-SCHOOL DUPLEX.
03:41:25 AND THEY HAD SOME PARKING ISSUES.
03:41:28 I'M JUST WONDERING, LaCHONE, IS THAT -- ARE WE TALKING
03:41:33 ABOUT THAT TYPE OF DUPLEX OR JUST THESE TOWNHOME DUPLEXES?
03:41:41 >>LaCHONE DOCK: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, LaCHONE DOCK WITH
03:41:44 CITY PLANNING.
03:41:44 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
03:41:48 REQUIRED TWO PARKING SPACES.
03:41:50 WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT IS TWO UNITS THAT HAVE A SHARED
03:41:54 WALL IN THE CODE.
03:41:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.
03:41:57 >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
03:42:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STEVE SAYS THAT THERE ARE FOUR PER UNIT,
03:42:04 BUT THE CODE ONLY REQUIRES TWO PER UNIT, RIGHT?
03:42:07 >>LaCHONE DOCK: IT'S TWO PER UNIT.
03:42:09 SO MAYBE HE'S THINKING IF YOU HAVE TWO UNITS, THEN IT'S
03:42:12 FOUR.
03:42:13 BUT IT'S TWO PER UNIT.
03:42:14 IT'S TWO PER UNIT.
03:42:17 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE ONLY THING I WAS REFERRING TO WAS THE
03:42:21 DRIVEWAY ITSELF SERVES AS A PARKING AREA FOR TWO CARS.
03:42:25 YOU STILL HAD THE ABILITY IF SOMEBODY IS GOING THROUGH A PD,
03:42:31 THEY COULD STILL ASK YOU GOING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A WAIVER
03:42:35 OF THE DESIGN.
03:42:37 BUT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE FOR THOSE GOING STRAIGHT TO
03:42:41 PERMITTING THAT WOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN A REZONING PROCESS.
03:42:47 BUT IT WOULD ALSO SHOW UP ON A ZONING REPORT THAT YOU'RE NOT
03:42:50 MEETING THAT IF THEY WERE ASKING TO WAIVE IT.
03:42:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ALREADY
03:42:59 COMPLAINING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TRADITIONALLY BEEN A
03:43:02 HOUSE, THE HOUSE GETS TORN DOWN.
03:43:05 NOW THERE'S A, QUOTE, DUPLEX, BASICALLY A SIDE BY SIDE
03:43:10 TOWNHOME THAT GETS PUT ON THERE.
03:43:12 AND THEN THEY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT FAMILY.
03:43:16 THEY'VE GOT KIDS.
03:43:17 THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES.
03:43:19 AND NOW WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THE GUEST SPACE
03:43:23 REQUIREMENT, I'M SORT OF SURPRISED TO SEE STAFF, QUOTE,
03:43:28 SUPPORT OUT ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THAT.
03:43:30 MS. FEELEY.
03:43:35 >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO I JUST WANT TO -- ABBYE FEELEY,
03:43:37 DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
03:43:39 I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS.
03:43:43 AS LaCHONE MENTIONED, THIS WOULD BE FOR ANY PRODUCT THAT
03:43:48 IS TWO UNITS WITH A SHARED CENTER WALL.
03:43:51 SO IN THEORY, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO TWO SPACES APIECE.
03:43:58 AS MR. MICHELINI MENTIONED, IF YOU HAVE TWO SPACES IN A
03:44:01 GARAGE AND TWO SPACES ON A PARKING PAD, THEN EACH UNIT WOULD
03:44:06 HAVE FOUR SPACES.
03:44:07 AS YOU ARE VERY WELL AWARE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
03:44:11 STYLES THAT THESE UNITS COME IN THAT YOU WERE JUST SPEAKING
03:44:15 TO, AND THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED NECESSARILY TO HAVE THAT
03:44:18 PARKING PAD.
03:44:20 SO IF THEY DID PROVIDE TWO SPACES, IT COULD BE IN THE GARAGE
03:44:25 AND THEN THERE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FOUR SPACES.
03:44:29 SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO IF IT'S THIS STYLE OR THAT STYLE
03:44:32 OR WHAT STYLE, IT IS A STANDARD.
03:44:35 AND THAT STANDARD IS BY THE TYPE.
03:44:38 IT'S NOT GOING TO RUN WITH A STYLE NECESSARILY.
03:44:41 SO WHAT WE'VE RUN INTO, WHERE IT DOES GET A LITTLE ODD IS
03:44:46 THAT ON A DUPLEX, THESE CAN BE FOR-SALE UNITS.
03:44:52 IF LaCHONE OWNED ONE UNIT AND I OWNED ONE UNIT, AND THEN
03:44:56 THERE WAS REQUIRED A VISITOR SPACE, WHERE DOES THE VISITOR
03:44:59 SPACE GO?
03:45:00 WE'VE RUN INTO THIS IN THE PAST WHERE IT'S KIND OF AN ODDITY
03:45:05 RELATED TO THE SEMI-DETACHED TYPE OF STRUCTURE.
03:45:09 SO I DON'T THINK -- I THINK IT HASN'T BEEN AS PROBLEMATIC AS
03:45:14 WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE THREE TO EIGHT UNITS
03:45:18 WHERE YOU NOW OWE A COUPLE OF SPACES AND THERE IS NO GUEST
03:45:24 PARKING.
03:45:24 IT DOES SHOW THAT WE'RE IN SUPPORT.
03:45:29 I DON'T THINK IT IS THAT PROBLEMATIC FROM THAT STANDPOINT,
03:45:34 BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO MISCONSTRUE ANY EXPECTATIONS
03:45:39 RELATED TO, WELL, IT WOULD RUN WITH THIS, BUT IT WOULDN'T
03:45:42 RUN WITH THAT.
03:45:43 IF IT IS A DUPLEX BY DEFINITION, SHARED WALL IN THE MIDDLE,
03:45:46 TWO UNITS, THEN IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THAT.
03:45:52 >>STEVE MICHELINI: IF I COULD ADD TO THIS.
03:45:53 AS LONG AS YOU'RE MEETING THE CODE FOR THE FRONT YARD
03:45:56 SETBACK, YOU HAVE THE SPACE BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY
03:46:02 FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE EDGE OF THE GARAGE.
03:46:07 YOU HAVE AT LEAST 20 FEET, WHICH IS A MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR
03:46:12 DRIVEWAY PARKING.
03:46:14 SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE SPACE FOR THE TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING
03:46:20 AREAS.
03:46:20 THAT'S WHY I SAID YOU WOULD HAVE FOUR, AND WHETHER YOU HAD
03:46:24 VISITORS OR NOT, I MEAN, THESE UNITS ARE TYPICALLY NOT LARGE
03:46:28 FAMILY UNITS, AND I UNDERSTAND MR. DINGFELDER'S CONCERN
03:46:33 ABOUT VISITORS AND CHILDREN AND ALL OF THAT, BUT YOU STILL
03:46:35 HAVE FOUR SPACES, WHICH IS NORMALLY EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD
03:46:39 HAVE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY.
03:46:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE CODE REQUIREMENT
03:46:44 TO FOUR PER UNIT, STEVE?
03:46:46 I'M JUST BEING FACETIOUS.
03:46:52 I UNDERSTAND IT.
03:46:53 I GET IT.
03:46:54 WE'RE NOT DECIDING TODAY.
03:46:56 SO WE'LL JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.
03:46:58 THANK YOU.
03:47:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
03:47:07 >>STEVE MICHELINI: CAN I GO THROUGH THE OTHER SLIDES, BUT
03:47:09 I'VE SUMMARIZED THEM I THINK ACCURATELY.
03:47:12 AS I SAID, WE DID WORK WITH STAFF FOR QUITE A WHILE TO
03:47:18 OBTAIN SUPPORT FOR EACH OF THESE REQUESTS, SO WE'RE ASKING
03:47:22 CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE MAKE THE MOTION NECESSARY TO FORWARD
03:47:26 THIS ON SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE PROCESS.
03:47:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
03:47:37 >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK WITH CITY PLANNING.
03:47:39 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR ITEMS
03:47:43 WHICH WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
03:47:44 WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 1,
03:47:47 NUMBER 5, NUMBER 6, AND NUMBER 7.
03:47:50 THIS WOULD SERVE AS THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP, A CONTINUANCE FROM
03:47:57 THE INITIAL WORKSHOP, SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED AND
03:48:00 GO ON THE TRACK FOR PLANNING COMMISSION -- PLANNING PUBLIC
03:48:05 HEARING AND THEN BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FIRST AND THEN SECOND
03:48:08 READING.
03:48:08 WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
03:48:13 IF COUNCIL DESIRES FOR THESE ITEMS TO MOVE FORWARD, THIS IS
03:48:16 WHAT WOULD MOVE FORWARD ON THAT TENTATIVE PROCESSING
03:48:19 SCHEDULE.
03:48:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?
03:48:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SO MOVE TO MAKE THIS GO FORWARD.
03:48:26 YES.
03:48:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MADE A MOTION TO GO FORWARD.
03:48:30 SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO.
03:48:31 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:48:32 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:48:34 ANY OPPOSED?
03:48:34 MOTION CARRIED.
03:48:37 >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
03:48:39 >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU.
03:48:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER ASKED FOR ITEM 102 TO BE
03:48:44 CONTINUED.
03:48:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
03:48:47 THIS ISN'T PRESSING.
03:48:48 IF WE CONTINUE IT FOR TWO WEEKS.
03:48:50 IS THAT OUR REGULAR MEETING IN SEPTEMBER?
03:48:57 >> [INAUDIBLE]
03:48:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WOULD BE FINE.
03:48:59 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A ONE-WEEK MOTION.
03:49:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE 14th -- THE 16th, I GUESS?
03:49:08 >> [INAUDIBLE]
03:49:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SEPTEMBER 30th, STAFF REPORTS.
03:49:14 >> [INAUDIBLE]
03:49:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS WON'T BE BUSY.
03:49:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MADE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
03:49:22 ITEM 102.
03:49:23 SECOND ON THAT.
03:49:25 MR. MANISCALCO.
03:49:25 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:49:26 ANY OPPOSED?
03:49:28 THAT'S CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 30th.
03:49:33 >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN.
03:49:35 I SUBMITTED A MEMO FOR THAT ITEM.
03:49:37 IF YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
03:49:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.
03:49:41 SORRY TO MAKE YOU WAIT, OCEA.
03:49:47 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
03:49:48 103.
03:49:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DID RECEIVE A WRITTEN
03:49:54 REPORT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS, AND I
03:49:58 WANTED TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION MADE BY THE
03:50:02 LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:50:04 IT'S ALL IN THE REPORT.
03:50:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MADE A MOTION TO MAKE A
03:50:09 RECOMMENDATION ON THE LEGAL REPORT.
03:50:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION.
03:50:14 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
03:50:17 IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO BRING IT BACK FOR A FIRST READING
03:50:20 CONSIDERATION -- YOU WANT TO -- THERE'S NO NEED TO SEE A
03:50:24 DRAFT --
03:50:24 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
03:50:26 EVERYTHING IS WRITTEN HERE.
03:50:27 THE RECOMMENDATION BY LEGAL.
03:50:28 SO IF I COULD BRING IT BACK, LET'S SAY SEPTEMBER 30th, FOR
03:50:31 A FIRST READING.
03:50:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
03:50:36 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. DINGFELDER.
03:50:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:50:38 ANY OPPOSED?
03:50:40 MOTION CARRIED.
03:50:41 SEPTEMBER 30th.
03:50:42 ITEM NUMBER 104, WE DEALT WITH THIS MORNING.
03:50:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 104, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
03:50:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 104.
03:50:57 RON WIGGINTON, WHAT WE CAN DO AND CAN'T DO.
03:51:01 WE GOT YOU NOW.
03:51:13 >>RON WIGGINTON: THANK YOU.
03:51:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:51:15 I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S
03:51:18 LIMITED LEGAL AUTHORITY TO REGULATE SMALL WIRELESS
03:51:21 FACILITIES, SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS 5G IN THE PUBLIC
03:51:27 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
03:51:27 I PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL WITH A MEMORANDUM DEALING WITH MOST
03:51:30 OF THE RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON LOCAL AUTHORITIES THAT ARE
03:51:35 PREEMPTED BY FLORIDA'S ADVANCE WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE
03:51:38 DEPLOYMENT ACT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S COMMUNICATIONS
03:51:41 ACT.
03:51:41 THE MEMO ALSO ADDRESSES THE CITY'S CURRENT ORDINANCE AND OUR
03:51:46 REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
03:51:49 TODAY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE ITEMS
03:51:51 THAT I MENTIONED IN THE MEMORANDUM.
03:51:54 FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT IS WELL ESTABLISHED THAT LOCAL
03:51:57 AUTHORITIES ARE PREEMPTED BY FEDERAL AND STATE LAW IN REGARD
03:52:01 TO THE INSTALLATION, MAINTENANCE, MODIFICATION, OPERATION,
03:52:04 OR REPLACEMENT OF SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES IN THE
03:52:08 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
03:52:08 FLORIDA STATUTES PROHIBITS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM REQUIRING
03:52:13 PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS, REQUIRING NOTICES TO AFFECTED
03:52:16 PROPERTY OWNERS, AND PROHIBITS LOCAL AUTHORITIES FROM
03:52:20 REGULATING THE PLACEMENT OF SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES EXCEPT
03:52:23 FOR LIMITED, OBJECTIVE, NONDISCRIMINATORY SAFETY, ADA, AND
03:52:28 DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
03:52:29 FLORIDA STATUTES ALSO MANDATES THAT A LOCAL AUTHORITY MUST
03:52:35 APPROVE A PERMIT APPLICATION THAT MEETS WITH THE STANDARDS
03:52:39 AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE STATUTE AND THE FEDERAL CODE.
03:52:43 IN PARTICULAR, THE FCC PROHIBITS LOCAL AUTHORITIES FROM
03:52:49 DENYING ITS SMALL WIRELESS APPLICATION BASED ON HEALTH
03:52:53 CONCERNS OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
03:52:54 BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL ACTS MANDATE CERTAIN TIME CONSTRAINTS
03:53:00 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SHOT CLOCKS IN THE PROCESSING OF THE
03:53:03 PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
03:53:04 IN SHORT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR
03:53:08 SAFETY, LOCAL AUTHORITIES HAVE VERY LIMITED CONTROL OVER THE
03:53:13 LOCATIONS OF SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES IN RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
03:53:17 IT IS MOST UNFORTUNATE, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS CASES
03:53:20 -- OR NUMEROUS LAWSUITS CHALLENGING THIS PREEMPTION, BUT
03:53:25 NONE AT THIS TIME HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
03:53:27 I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS CITY COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
03:53:31 AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THIS REPORT.
03:53:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
03:53:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT.
03:53:40 AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA ARE TIRED OF ME
03:53:44 SAYING THIS, BUT THIS IS PREEMPTION BY OUR STATE GOVERNMENT,
03:53:51 AND IT'S NOT OUR HANDS THAT ARE TIED, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
03:53:53 IT'S YOUR HANDS THAT ARE TIED.
03:53:56 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST THIS TYPE OF THING;
03:53:59 HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, I PLEASE SUGGEST THAT
03:54:02 YOU WRITE YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, YOUR STATE SENATORS
03:54:08 AND TELL THEM THAT WE WANT TAMPA TO HAVE HOME RULE.
03:54:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
03:54:14 >> YOU ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME.
03:54:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE ON 104?
03:54:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS MY SERIOUS VOICE.
03:54:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. WIGGINTON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT,
03:54:28 SIR.
03:54:28 MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
03:54:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU COMPLETE ON THIS ITEM?
03:54:36 I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT?
03:54:37 ARE YOU STILL ON 104 OR ARE YOU MOVING ON?
03:54:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M MOVING ON, BACK TO 99.
03:54:47 WE DID NOT MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT 60 TO 90 DAYS IN
03:54:51 REFERENCE TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT COMING BACK AND PRESENTING
03:54:54 THEIR LAST FINDINGS FOR MOVING ON WITH THE NEW PROCESS.
03:54:58 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT A SET DATE?
03:55:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S GO FOR 60.
03:55:05 IF THEY TELL US NO, WE CAN GO TO 90.
03:55:05 I MOVE FOR 60 DAYS.
03:55:07 ON ITEM NUMBER 99, FILE CM21-69410.
03:55:14 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 21st.
03:55:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT.
03:55:17 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT.
03:55:19 ALL IN FAVOR.
03:55:21 ANY OPPOSED?
03:55:21 MOTION CARRIED.
03:55:22 MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
03:55:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'VE BEEN ASKED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
03:55:25 ASK COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER ITEM 103 ON THE DEFINITION OF THE
03:55:32 COMMERCIAL VEHICLE.
03:55:33 I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT SEPTEMBER 30th IS NOT ENOUGH TIME
03:55:38 TO DO THAT.
03:55:39 THEY SAY IT HAS TO BE WORKSHOPPED.
03:55:41 NOT WITH COUNCIL, I DON'T BELIEVE AT THIS POINT, BUT IT DOES
03:55:44 HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ET CETERA, TO GO
03:55:47 THROUGH THE PROCESS BEFORE IT COMES BACK.
03:55:48 SO WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU, THEN, TO ASK THAT THIS
03:55:54 BE PROCESSED TO BE BROUGHT BACK THROUGH SIRE AFTER
03:55:57 PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION?
03:55:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
03:56:00 I MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND MY MOTION OF TAKING THIS OUT TO
03:56:05 FIRST READING.
03:56:05 I THINK I CHOSE SEPTEMBER 30th.
03:56:08 SO I RESCIND MY MOTION.
03:56:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:56:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO RESCINDED HIS MOTION.
03:56:13 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
03:56:14 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:56:15 ANY OPPOSED?
03:56:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE MS. ZELMAN ON LINE.
03:56:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. ZELMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
03:56:20 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.
03:56:22 MR. SHELBY JUST COVERED IT FOR ME.
03:56:24 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:56:25 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
03:56:26 BECAUSE OF THE CHAPTER 27 CHANGE, AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 27,
03:56:31 YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, ALL SUCH CHANGES HAVE TO GO TO
03:56:35 THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE THEY CAN BE ADOPTED BY CITY
03:56:38 COUNCIL.
03:56:39 WE OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT BEFORE SEPTEMBER
03:56:42 30th.
03:56:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS A MOTION NEEDED?
03:56:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: TRANSMIT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
03:56:48 BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
03:56:50 WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE?
03:56:51 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT WOULD BE FINE.
03:56:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO TRANSMIT TO THE PLANNING
03:56:54 COMMISSION SO IT GOES TO THE TRADITIONAL CHANNELS AND THEN
03:56:58 WE'LL GET THIS DONE.
03:56:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
03:57:00 SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
03:57:01 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:57:01 ANY OPPOSED?
03:57:02 MOTION CARRIED.
03:57:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:57:05 THANK YOU, MR. MANISCALCO.
03:57:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING, SIR?
03:57:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
03:57:12 COUNCIL, ON AUGUST 24, YOU RECEIVED A MEMO FROM URSULA
03:57:18 RICHARDSON REGARDING THE FACT THAT ON JULY 29th, CITY
03:57:22 COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO OPEN THE APPOINTMENT OF NOMINATION
03:57:25 PROCESS FOR CITY COUNCIL SELECTION FOR THE CITIZEN POLICE
03:57:28 REVIEW BOARD, THE CRB.
03:57:30 AND YOU SET THE APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER
03:57:34 3rd, 2021.
03:57:38 AND JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THAT
03:57:42 IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE APPLICATION,
03:57:45 AND YOU CAN OBTAIN THAT.
03:57:48 THE DEADLINE, AGAIN, IS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2021.
03:57:51 IT'S COMING UP A WEEK FROM TOMORROW, IT WOULD BE.
03:57:56 YOU SET THE SELECTION DAY FOR OCTOBER 27th, 2021.
03:58:01 TODAY, COUNCIL APPROVED THE NAACP NOMINATION, AND TO PREVENT
03:58:06 DELAYING THE TRAINING AND OTHER PREREQUISITES FOR SERVICE ON
03:58:08 THE CRB, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO
03:58:11 MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE SELECTION DATE FROM WHAT IS
03:58:16 PRESENTLY SET AT BY CITY COUNCIL, OCTOBER 7th, AND THEY
03:58:19 SUGGESTED A COUPLE OF DATES.
03:58:20 ONE OF THEM IS A WORKSHOP DATE ON SEPTEMBER 23rd.
03:58:23 THE OTHER ONE I THINK IS BETTER FOR COUNCIL, BUT IT WOULD BE
03:58:26 AT 5:01 P.M. AS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE EVENING MEETING OF
03:58:30 SEPTEMBER 9th, 2021.
03:58:32 THAT IS A CRA DATE DURING THE DAY AND THIS PROCESS WOULD BE,
03:58:36 I GUESS, FIRST ON THE AGENDA, IF COUNCIL WISHES TO DO IT, SO
03:58:40 THAT IT MOVES UP THE PROCESS TO ALLOW THE APPOINTEES TO BE
03:58:45 ABLE TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS IN A TIMELY FASHION SO THEY CAN
03:58:50 BEGIN THEIR SERVICE.
03:58:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL MAKE THE
03:58:54 MOTION FOR SEPTEMBER 9th AT 5:01.
03:58:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE.
03:59:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MADE THE MOTION.
03:59:03 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED.
03:59:07 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:59:07 MOTION CARRIED.
03:59:08 ANYTHING ELSE, MR. SHELBY?
03:59:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
03:59:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, ANYTHING, SIR?
03:59:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
03:59:13 NOTHING OVER HERE.
03:59:16 WE'RE GOOD.
03:59:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WOW.
03:59:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE DIDN'T LEAVE ME ANYTHING.
03:59:28 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON.
03:59:30 >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO FILE A CONFLICT FORM FROM LAST
03:59:33 WEEK.
03:59:33 I THINK THE CLERK HAS A COPY.
03:59:35 SO COULD WE VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
03:59:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION FROM MR. CARLSON TO RECEIVE AND
03:59:39 FILE.
03:59:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:59:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SECOND.
03:59:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND -- MOTION BY MR. CARLSON -- BY MR.
03:59:50 MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY MR. CITRO.
03:59:52 ALL IN FAVOR?
03:59:53 OPPOSED?
03:59:54 MR. CARLSON, ANYTHING ELSE?
03:59:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: TWO THINGS, QUICKLY, MR. CHAIR, MOTION FOR
03:59:59 STAFF TO GIVE A REPORT ON THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS
04:00:03 POPULATION AND ITS IMPACT ON THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNITY
04:00:07 PARTNERS, SPECIFICALLY THAT TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS
04:00:10 INITIATIVE, THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND HART ON SEPTEMBER
04:00:15 23rd AS CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
04:00:18 AND ONLY FIVE MINUTES, TEN MINUTES FOR THE
04:00:21 TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS, FIVE MINUTES FOR DOWNTOWN
04:00:23 PARTNERSHIP AND FIVE MINUTES FOR HART.
04:00:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MADE A MOTION.
04:00:28 MR. MIRANDA SECONDED.
04:00:29 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:00:29 ANY OPPOSED?
04:00:30 MOTION CARRIED.
04:00:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER TWO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND OUT KUDOS
04:00:34 TO MR. BRAD BAIRD.
04:00:35 WE DID NOT HEAR 91.
04:00:37 ITEM 91 TODAY, BUT HE'S REAL TRANSFORMER.
04:00:40 HE WENT FROM DOING HIS REGULAR JOB FOR THE CITY TO SAVING
04:00:45 THE CITY TONS OF MONEY AS A NEGOTIATOR.
04:00:49 I JUST WANT TO SAY, BRAD, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
04:00:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA.
04:00:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, SIR.
04:00:54 I HAVE A COUPLE.
04:00:55 ONE, MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT COMMENDATION TO MARIE HOLMES,
04:00:59 OUR FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD LIAISON.
04:01:00 SHE HAS SERVED IN THIS CAPACITY FOR EIGHT YEARS AND HER
04:01:03 UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD
04:01:06 ASSOCIATION, WILL SURELY BE MISSED.
04:01:08 SHE HAD A HUGE JOB.
04:01:09 THE CITY HAS 88 DESIGNATED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF WHICH
04:01:12 82 ARE ACTIVE.
04:01:14 MS. HOLMES HAD MOVED TO ANOTHER POSITION WITHIN THE CITY OF
04:01:17 TAMPA, BUT AS MANY OF US KNOW, ALL OF US BELIEVE THAT
04:01:21 WITHOUT HER, THE ASSOCIATIONS WOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THE
04:01:25 RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY HAVE WITHIN THE CITY.
04:01:27 I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO MS. HOLMES ON
04:01:30 THE 23rd OF SEPTEMBER, 2021.
04:01:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOTION.
04:01:37 MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED.
04:01:38 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:01:39 OPPOSED?
04:01:40 MOTION CARRIED.
04:01:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TODAY IS WOMEN'S HISTORY EQUALITY DAY.
04:01:45 WOMEN EQUALITY CELEBRATED EVERY AUGUST 26th COMMEMORATES
04:01:49 THE PASSAGE OF THE WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE IN THE UNITED STATES AND
04:01:53 REMINDS US OF ALL THE HURDLES THEY HAD TO OVERCOME BY THE
04:01:56 HISTORIC WOMEN WHO FACED VIOLENCE, DISCRIMINATION TO PROPOSE
04:02:00 THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT FORWARD.
04:02:01 ALSO, WOMEN AREN'T DONE YET.
04:02:03 EQUAL RIGHTS THING.
04:02:04 WAGE GAP STILL EXISTS.
04:02:06 AND TODAY, WOMEN STILL IMPACT WOMEN, ECONOMIC POWER, GENERAL
04:02:11 BASE DISCRIMINATION STILL PLAGUES THE WORKPLACE AND BUSINESS
04:02:14 TRANSACTION REGARDING WOMEN.
04:02:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
04:02:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.
04:02:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
04:02:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I APOLOGIZE.
04:02:21 I WANT TO ASK MS. ZELMAN, I SEE SHE'S STILL ON.
04:02:25 IN REGARDS TO ITEM 103, WHEN WILL IT GO TO THE PLANNING
04:02:32 COMMISSION?
04:02:33 WHEN IS IT SCHEDULED -- WHEN IS THEIR NEXT MEEK?
04:02:36 WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR THAT?
04:02:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE MUTED.
04:02:42 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I APOLOGIZE.
04:02:45 I DON'T KNOW THAT DATE OFF HAND.
04:02:47 IT USUALLY TAKES MAYBE A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR US TO GET ON
04:02:53 THEIR AGENDA.
04:02:54 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO US.
04:02:59 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAW WAS DRAFT LANGUAGE.
04:03:01 IT HAS TO BE PUT IN ORDINANCE FORM, SENT TO THE PLANNING
04:03:03 COMMISSION, SCHEDULED -- THEY DO A WORKSHOP AND A MEETING.
04:03:07 WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM TO EXPEDITE IT, BUT I
04:03:12 HONESTLY CAN'T SAY WITHOUT HAVING SOMEONE TALK TO THEM TO
04:03:16 FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR SCHEDULE.
04:03:18 REMEMBER, THEIR MEETINGS REQUIRE ADVANCED NOTICE AS WELL, SO
04:03:23 I JUST CAN'T PREDICT RIGHT NOW.
04:03:25 I WOULD GUESS AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET IT THROUGH
04:03:28 THAT PROCESS.
04:03:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO US.
04:03:31 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CORRECT.
04:03:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:03:34 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: OKAY.
04:03:36 THANK YOU.
04:03:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, MR. DINGFELDER, CAN I PASS
04:03:42 YOU THE GAVEL?
04:03:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE STAND IN RECESS WHEN YOU FINISH.
04:03:46 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO GREG SPEARMAN,
04:03:49 DIRECTOR OF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, AND HIS STAFF IN THE
04:03:52 HONOR OF THEIR RECENT ACHIEVEMENT FOR THE NATIONAL
04:03:54 PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN
04:03:56 PROCUREMENT AWARD, PRESENTED SEPTEMBER 30th, 2021.
04:04:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN GUDES, SECOND FROM
04:04:04 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:04:05 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:04:06 ANY OPPOSED?
04:04:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY LAST ONE, SOLID WASTE DIRECTOR COME
04:04:13 BEFORE US AND GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS IN REFERENCE TO THE
04:04:20 APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND BUSINESSES WHO HAVE THE TRASH BINS
04:04:27 THAT ARE TOO SMALL FOR SERVICE.
04:04:31 WE'RE RECENTLY HAVING ISSUES WITH GARBAGE ALL OVER THE PLACE
04:04:36 AND SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES DON'T HAVE THE AMPLE SIZE FOR
04:04:40 THEIR BUSINESSES AND THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, HAVING THESE
04:04:44 SMALL TRASH RECEPTACLES THERE AND IT'S NOT WORKING.
04:04:49 SEVERAL COMPLAINTS ON THAT.
04:04:51 I WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT IS DOING TO
04:04:53 COMBAT THAT, ARE THEY GOING OUT AND LOOKING AT THAT?
04:04:56 HOW WE CAN CORRECT THOSE ISSUES.
04:04:58 IF SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR A SMALL CAN IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX
04:05:01 WITH FIVE OR SIX APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
04:05:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ADD TO THAT REGARDING THE SAME
04:05:08 ISSUE, I HAVE STARTED ANOTHER AVENUE, BECAUSE I HAD RECEIVED
04:05:10 SOME INFORMATION FROM SOME GOOD, HARDWORKING INDIVIDUALS
04:05:14 THAT WORK IN THE DEPARTMENT AND LOCAL 1554 THAT SOME OF THE
04:05:18 STREETS IN SOUTH TAMPA SO SMALL AND THEY PARK ON BOTH SIDES
04:05:21 AND THE TRUCK CAN'T GO THROUGH.
04:05:23 AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.
04:05:24 IF WE CAN ADD ON TO THAT, PIGGYBACK TO YOUR STATEMENT, SEE
04:05:29 IF HE COULD COME TO US.
04:05:31 ONLY ONE SMALL TRUCK, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
04:05:33 I DON'T KNOW THAT TO BE FACTUAL.
04:05:35 BUT I WOULD IMAGINE -- UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS.
04:05:38 MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME ANSWERS SO WE CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
04:05:41 I DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING WRITTEN UP FOR HITTING A CAR
04:05:45 OR --
04:05:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND WE TALKED
04:05:47 ABOUT THE ALLEYS, TOO.
04:05:49 MAYBE THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT, THAT WE DON'T KNOW, TO BRING
04:05:52 SOME ANSWERS.
04:05:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD YOU PREFER THAT APPEAR AS A PART A
04:05:57 AND PART B TO THE SAME MOTION ON THE SAME DATE, SAME
04:06:00 APPEARANCE?
04:06:01 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S FINE.
04:06:03 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. LENTZ THAT BROUGHT
04:06:06 IT UP, BECAUSE HE PUT A PHOTO ON Facebook.
04:06:09 COULDN'T GET THE TRUCK DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE
04:06:12 DOUBLE PARKED ON ONE SIDE.
04:06:14 I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
04:06:15 MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER --
04:06:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
04:06:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DATE ON THE CALENDAR?
04:06:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE?
04:06:23 WORKSHOP DATE -- WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE WORKSHOPS?
04:06:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT IT AS AN APPEARANCE.
04:06:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: APPEARANCE.
04:06:30 MAKE IT 60 DAYS.
04:06:32 GIVE HIM TIME --
04:06:35 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 21st IS A REGULAR MEETING.
04:06:37 OCTOBER 28 IS A WORKSHOP.
04:06:40 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GIVE IT 28th.
04:06:44 PUT IT ON THE WORKSHOP DAY.
04:06:47 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 28.
04:06:48 WORKSHOPS, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENDATIONS, YEAH, I GUESS,
04:06:53 9:30.
04:06:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S FINE, SIR.
04:06:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
04:06:58 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A PART A AND PART B.
04:07:01 HAD CLARIFICATION THERE FOR OCTOBER 28, 9:30 WORKSHOP.
04:07:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CALL ME TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT RIGHT WHEN
04:07:09 HE BRINGS IT TO US.
04:07:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
04:07:12 ALL RIGHT.
04:07:13 THAT'S IT.
04:07:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
04:07:15 MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:07:17 >> SO MOVED.
04:07:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU COULD DO A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
04:07:24 NOW OR LATER BUT YOU CAN DO IT TWICE.
04:07:26 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:07:28 MR. MANISCALCO AND MR. MIRANDA.
04:07:29 ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
04:07:30 WE STAND IN RECESS UNTIL 6:00.
04:07:33 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
04:07:33 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
04:07:34 [ RECESS ]
06:08:20
06:08:22 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL.
06:08:28 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
06:08:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
06:08:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
06:08:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
06:08:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
06:08:37 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
06:08:39 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
06:08:40 ALL RIGHT.
06:08:40 ITEM NUMBER 86.
06:08:45 CITY STAFF?
06:08:47 >> MY NAME IS KENDRICK DONNELLY, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ON
06:08:54 BEHALF OF THE CITY PRESENTING A REVIEW HEARING ON THE
06:08:57 APPLICATION, LOCATED AT 3401 NORTH 15th STREET.
06:09:05 AS A PRELIMINARY, WE CREATED EVIDENCE BINDERS FOR ALL THE
06:09:10 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
06:09:11 HOPEFULLY THEY ARE ALL UP THERE.
06:09:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIKE.
06:09:15 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: I APOLOGIZE.
06:09:19 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD A COPY OF THE BINDER.
06:09:21 SO THERE WILL BE REFERENCES TOTAL BINDER IN THE PowerPoint
06:09:24 PRESENTATION AND THE SPECIFIC TASKS WILL INDICATE WHAT WE
06:09:27 ARE REFERENCING SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR EYES ON THIS
06:09:29 SPECIFIC DOCUMENT THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU HERE AS
06:09:32 WELL.
06:09:41 WE ARE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONSIDERATION OF
06:09:44 THE SUSPENSION OF THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT YBOR GROCERY STOP
06:09:48 AGAIN LOCATED AT 3401 NORTH 15th STREET.
06:09:51 YOU ALL HAVE HEARD HEARINGS LIKE THIS BEFORE.
06:09:54 WE WILL BE DEALING WITH FOR THE MASK ISSUE FOR RESTAURANTS
06:10:02 OR FOR BARS.
06:10:03 THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE.
06:10:05 SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
06:10:07 THERE ARE SOME CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE
06:10:09 VIOLATIONS THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY.
06:10:10 IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE YOU HEARD PREVIOUSLY.
06:10:13 BUT AS FAR AS THE SANCTIONS, THE SANCTIONS ARE THE SAME AND
06:10:18 WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE TOGETHER.
06:10:19 AS A PRELIMINARY OVERVIEW, AGAIN, YBOR GROCERY.
06:10:26 THIS HEARING IS GOVERNED BY CODE SECTION 27-318.
06:10:29 THERE IS A COPY OF THAT IN THE DOCUMENT THAT'S LOCATED AT
06:10:32 TAB B-1.
06:10:33 WE WILL GOFF THROUGH THAT AGAIN LATER.
06:10:35 THE FIRST THING WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AFTER WE TALK
06:10:37 ABOUT THE CODE SECTION IS THE OWNERSHIP.
06:10:39 WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT WHO THE BUSINESS OWNER IS, WHO THE
06:10:43 PROPERTY OWNER IS, THE PARTIES INVOLVED, DISCUSS THE
06:10:46 SPECIFIC AB PERMIT THE THAT IS GOING TO INCLUDE THE STATE
06:10:49 PERMITS AS WELL AS THE LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT GRANTS THEM THE
06:10:52 ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL AT THE LOCATION.
06:10:54 THEN WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT UNDER
06:10:57 27-318 THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE, TO THOSE
06:11:01 INDIVIDUALS.
06:11:01 AND THEN AS FAR AS THE VIOLATIONS WE ARE GOING TO START WITH
06:11:04 CODE VIOLATIONS, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
06:11:06 CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS, THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO SECTIONS, ONE
06:11:10 RELATED TO DRUGS SPECIFICALLY AND THE OTHER RELATED TO
06:11:12 FIREARMS.
06:11:14 THE NEXT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PRIOR NOTICE OF PROPERTY
06:11:18 VIOLATIONS BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN PRIOR TIMES WHEN THEY
06:11:21 HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED BY TPD THAT THERE ARE ISSUES ON THE
06:11:24 PROPERTY IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO REMEDY THOSE ISSUES.
06:11:26 YOU WILL HAVE INFORMATION LATER FOR THAT.
06:11:28 AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE -- TIME.
06:11:35 >> [OFF MICROPHONE] RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT YOUR
06:11:44 ATTENTION TO THE SLIDE, THE FIRST SLIDE WHICH PROVIDES A MAP
06:11:46 OF THE AREA SURROUNDING YBOR GROCERY.
06:11:49 YOU CAN SEE THAT YBOR GROCERY LOCATED AT 3401 NORTH 15th
06:11:54 STREET AND THIS IS IN THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH 15th
06:11:57 STREET AND 22ND AVENUE, TAMPA.
06:12:00 TO ORIENT YOU TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FOR CONTEXT, THIS
06:12:05 INTERSECTION IS LOCATED ABOUT ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF THE ORANGE
06:12:09 GROVE MAGNET SCHOOL WHICH IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH OVER 400
06:12:12 STUDENTS.
06:12:14 HAS BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1926.
06:12:16 IT'S LESS THAN A BLOCK FROM NEXT GENERATION KIDS EARLY
06:12:20 CHILDHOOD LEARNING CENTER WHICH IS LOCATED ON SANCREST
06:12:25 STREET, A PRE-K CHILD CARE FACILITY.
06:12:28 IT'S ALSO LOCATED ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS SOUTH OF RAGAN PARK.
06:12:32 MOST IMPORTANTLY, THOUGH, WHAT I WANT THIS VISUAL TO PROVIDE
06:12:36 FOR YOU IS THIS LOCATION IS A COMMON CORE DO, 15th
06:12:42 STREET IS A COMMON CORE DO, HOWEVER YBOR GROCERY IS ALMOST
06:12:45 ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL AREA WHICH IS INCLUDED ON
06:12:48 THIS MAP.
06:12:52 OWNERSHIP.
06:12:54 3401 NORTH 15th STREET HAS BEEN OWNED BY RITA GONZALEZ
06:12:58 FERNANDEZ SINCE DECEMBER 17 OF 2003.
06:13:02 IF I CAN DIRECT YOU TO SECTION A UNDER BINDER 2 THROUGH 5
06:13:07 THAT I AM CURRENTLY SPEAKING ABOUT, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN
06:13:11 LEASED TO MOHAMMAD SOBH, AND RAN HIS BUSINESS SINCE THAT
06:13:22 TIME AND HE'S REGISTERED AS A REGISTERED AGENT OF YBOR
06:13:26 GROCERY STOP.
06:13:28 AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO THE MIKE ERIC COTTON,
06:13:31 WHO IS OUR DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION MANAGER FOR DEVELOPMENT
06:13:34 AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
06:13:36 HE'S GOING TO ORIENT YOU TO THE AB PERMITS THAT CURRENTLY
06:13:40 EXIST FOR THIS PROPERTY.
06:13:42 AND I BELIEVE HE'S PRESENT ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
06:13:49 >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:13:50 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
06:13:51 JUST A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY ON THE ZONING ISSUES, AND THEN
06:13:54 THAN THE APPROVAL FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
06:13:56 THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS ZONED CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, WHICH
06:13:59 WOULD ALLOW FOR THE USE OF A RETAIL STORE THAT DOES SELL
06:14:04 CONVENIENCE GOODS.
06:14:05 THE UNDERLINING ZONING ALLOWS FOR THE PROPERTY.
06:14:08 THE ZONING -- IT WAS CONSTRUCTED BACK IN 1946, AND CITY
06:14:12 COUNCIL APPROVED A LOCATION FOR SALE OF BEER AND WINE WHICH
06:14:17 IS A 2(APS) UNDER FILE L-7913, ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 7265-A.
06:14:26 THE CURRENT LAST ONE, THE STATE SIGNED OFF IN 2014.
06:14:34 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE UNDERLINING ZONING
06:14:37 ISSUE?
06:14:37 >> THANK YOU, ERIC.
06:14:40 THESE TABS ARE THE INFORMATION THAT ERIC JUST PRESENTED IS
06:14:43 LOCATED IN SECTION A TAB 6 AND 7 OF YOUR BINDERS IN CASE YOU
06:14:48 WANTED TO FLIP TO THOSE DIRECT SECTIONS.
06:14:55 SO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE SUSPENSION HEARINGS ARE
06:14:58 GOVERNED UNDER SECTION 27-318 C OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
06:15:03 ORDINANCES.
06:15:04 THIS SPECIFIC SUBSECTION B OF 27-318 SPEAKS TO THE
06:15:10 REVOCATION OR SUSPENSION OF SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR
06:15:13 CAUSE.
06:15:14 UNDER THIS SPECIFIC SUBSECTION IN ORDER FOR CITY COUNCIL TO
06:15:18 SUSPEND OR REVOKE AN ALCOHOLIC LICENSE YOU MUST FIRST MAKE
06:15:22 THE DETERMINATION THAT A PROPERTY OWNER, THE HOLDER OF THE
06:15:25 BEVERAGE LICENSE, PRIORITIES OF THE ESTABLISHMENT, OR ANY
06:15:29 AGENT OR EMPLOYEE THEREOF HAS BEEN FOUND TO HAVE VIOLATED OR
06:15:33 HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF ONE OR MORE OF THE 14 QUALIFYING
06:15:37 CRITERIA THAT ARE THEN LISTED IN SUBSECTION A THROUGH X.
06:15:43 IN THIS CASE TONIGHT, WE ARE DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO
06:15:46 SUBSECTION B, C AND D SPECIFICALLY.
06:15:51 B, C AND D.
06:15:52 THEY ARE BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN SO YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
06:15:55 SUBSECTION B SPEAKS TO THE MAINTENANCE OF A NUISANCE ON THE
06:15:59 PROPERTY.
06:16:00 SUBSECTION C SPEAKS TO ENGAGING AND/OR PERMITTING DISORDERLY
06:16:04 CONDUCT ON OR ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
06:16:06 AND SUBSECTION D SPEAKS TO OPERATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT IN
06:16:10 A MANNER THAT REPEATEDLY OR ON GOING BASIS HAS NEGATIVE
06:16:13 SECONDARY EFFECTS ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
06:16:16 THESE NEGATIVE SECONDARY EFFECTS CAN INCLUDE VIOLATIONS OF
06:16:21 CITY CODE, ORDINANCE OF STATE LAW RELATING TO NOISE, PARKING
06:16:25 OR TRASH AND DEBRIS AFTER HAVING HAD REASONABLE NOTICE TO
06:16:30 TERMINATOR CORRECT ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS.
06:16:35 THE NEXT SLIDE SPEAKS TO NUISANCE DEFINITION.
06:16:38 THIS IS HERE SO THAT IN UNDERSTANDING SUBSECTION D WHICH WAS
06:16:42 JUST BEFORE YOU, IT INCLUDES THIS DEFINITION OF NUISANCE,
06:16:47 BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS ANY KIND OF DEFINED BY
06:16:52 CODE OR COMMON LAW.
06:16:54 THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY POINTING YOU TOWARDS WINWARD VERSUS
06:17:01 CITY OF DESTIN, A 1999 DCA CASE AND HOW THE TERM NUISANCE
06:17:09 CERTAIN IDENTIFIABLE HARM INCLUDING IN PART THIS PARTICULAR
06:17:12 LAND USE MIGHT HAVE ON SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE AND
06:17:15 THAT'S BASICALLY ONE OF THE PARTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
06:17:19 TONIGHT.
06:17:19 THAT'S A DEFINITION OF NUISANCE TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR
06:17:22 MIND.
06:17:25 FLIPPING BACK TO THIS, THIS EVENING YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR
06:17:34 EVIDENCE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AS THE PRIORITIES OF
06:17:36 THE ESTABLISHMENT HAS VIOLATED SUBSECTION B, C AND D, AND
06:17:40 ONCE AGAIN, THAT NUISANCE, CONDUCT AND SECONDARY NEGATIVE
06:17:45 EFFECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
06:17:50 AND WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU TO MAKE A FINDING THAT
06:17:52 THESE SUBSECTIONS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED.
06:17:54 AND THEN AFTER THAT FINDING WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU TO
06:17:57 SUSPEND THE ABILITY FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT TO SELL ALCOHOL
06:18:00 FOR 30 DAYS.
06:18:06 OKAY, NOTICE.
06:18:10 THIS IS POINTING YOU TO 27-318-D.
06:18:16 WE WERE PREVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT C.
06:18:19 BUT D IS THE NOTICE OF GOING FORWARD WITH THE HEARING
06:18:22 TONIGHT, AND REQUIRES THAT NOTICE OF AN ALCOHOLIC LICENSE
06:18:25 SUSPENSION HEARING BE SENT BY CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE PROPERTY
06:18:29 OWNER AND OWNER AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING. IN
06:18:33 THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IN COMPLYING WITH THIS
06:18:36 REQUIREMENT, BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER RITA GONZALEZ AND THE
06:18:41 OPERATOR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT MOHAMMAD SOBH, THEY RECEIVED
06:18:45 FIFTY DAYS NOTICE BEFORE -- EXCUSE ME, 56 DAYS BEFORE
06:18:49 TONIGHT.
06:18:50 ADDITIONALLY, THIS MADE SURE THEY WERE FULLY ON NOTICE OF
06:18:55 WHAT WAS GOING TO BE HAPPENING.
06:18:56 OUR PERSONAL DETECTIVE FOR TPD PROVIDED HAND DELIVERY OF
06:18:59 BOTH INDIVIDUAL NOTICE AND OUR AMENDED NOTICE.
06:19:02 I DIRECT YOU TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND BUSINESS OWNER.
06:19:09 SECTION B-4.
06:19:16 AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'LL BEGIN ESTABLISHING THE FIRST OF
06:19:19 THOSE THREE SUBSECTIONS WE DISCUSSED. WE ARE GOING TO
06:19:22 DISCUSS NOW THE NUISANCE ON THE PROPERTY AND THE NEGATIVE
06:19:26 SECONDARY EFFECTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTY, BY CALLING TO
06:19:29 YOUR ATTENTION THE PREVIOUS CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS THAT
06:19:33 OCCURRED.
06:19:33 SO I WOULD LIKE TO AT THIS TIME CALL DETECTIVE CURTIS
06:19:37 WILLIAMS WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE MICROPHONE.
06:19:40 I BELIEVE HE'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
06:19:49 >> GOOD EVENING.
06:19:52 DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS.
06:19:53 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
06:19:54 >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
06:19:59 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
06:20:01 >> I DO.
06:20:08 GOOD EVENING.
06:20:10 I WILL GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF MY EXPERIENCE --
06:20:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU TURN THE VOLUME UP SO COUNCIL CAN
06:20:17 HEAR?
06:20:18 >> GOOD EVENING.
06:20:19 IS THAT A LITTLE BETTER?
06:20:21 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A LITTLE BETTER.
06:20:25 >> I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF OF MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE
06:20:27 PARTICULAR LOCATION.
06:20:28 I HAVE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR 24 YEARS, THE LAST 14
06:20:31 WITH TPD.
06:20:33 MY FIRST SEVERAL YEARS WITH TPD WAS PATROLLING EAST TAMPA ON
06:20:38 THE STREETS AT NIGHT.
06:20:40 AND DURING THAT TIME, THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION INTERSECTION
06:20:44 WAS NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, WAS NOT A FREQUENT
06:20:48 LOCATION FOR CALLS.
06:20:49 UPON MY RETURN TWO YEARS AGO, THE EAST TAMPA, I WOULD BE
06:20:55 CONFIDENT IN SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT AN OFFICER THAT WORKS
06:20:57 IN EAST TAMPA THAT IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS LOCATION DUE TO
06:21:01 THE ACTIVITY.
06:21:02 THAT'S GOING THERE.
06:21:05 I CURRENTLY WORK ALONGSIDE THE EAST TAMPA CRA WHERE WE WORK
06:21:11 TO REDUCE THE SLUM AND BLIGHT.
06:21:14 BLIGHT COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS ANYTHING THAT SPOILS OR
06:21:17 DAMAGES.
06:21:18 I BELIEVE THIS MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
06:21:23 THE BUSINESS IS OPEN 24/7, IT OPERATES MORE LIKE A CLUB THAN
06:21:29 A CONVENIENCE STORE, AND THE FIRST REALLY CAME TO THE
06:21:34 ATTENTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN A MORE SEVERE SENSE IN JUNE
06:21:39 OF 2020 WHEN OFFICERS WERE CALLED TO THAT LOCATION FOR
06:21:44 SEVERAL HUNDRED SUBJECTS BEING ON THE PROPERTY, IN THE
06:21:49 INTERSECTION, IT TOOK MORE THAN 100 OFFICERS RESPONDING TO
06:21:54 HELP DISBURSE THE CROWDS THAT WERE THERE, AND RESULTED IN
06:21:59 INJURY OF TWO POLICE OFFICERS.
06:22:05 DUE TO THE PERSISTING ACTIVITY AT THE LOCATION AND MY
06:22:08 CURRENT ASSIGNMENT, I ALWAYS TRY AND FIND A SOLUTION TO A
06:22:12 PROBLEM AT THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE.
06:22:16 SO AT THIS POINT, I WENT AND I ACTUALLY MET WITH MOHAMMAD
06:22:21 SOBH AT THE BUSINESS LOCATION ALONG WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT
06:22:25 OFFICER KRYSTAL RAMOS.
06:22:30 WE HAD A CONVERSATION.
06:22:31 WE EXPLORED THE BUSINESS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE AND WE DISCUSSED
06:22:36 THE PROBLEM, POINTED THEM OUT AND MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS AT
06:22:41 THAT TIME OF IDEAS THAT COULD PERHAPS ALLEVIATE THE ONGOING
06:22:45 PROBLEM.
06:22:48 I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WAY TO PUT IT THAN I LEFT THERE
06:22:52 FEELING LIKE IT WHATS A LOT OF LIP SERVICE, SO I RETURNED
06:22:55 SHORTLY AFTER, TALKED, AND AGAIN THE CROWDS WERE BACK
06:23:01 HANGING OUT, SOME LEANING UP AGAINST THE WALL, WHICH IS
06:23:05 COMMONPLACE ANYTIME OF DAY, EVEN AS EARLY AS 7:30 IN THE
06:23:10 MORNING.
06:23:19 THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WAS ALSO NOTIFIED ON THAT DAY.
06:23:24 I BELIEVE OFFICER ELMORE CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT OF THE
06:23:28 ONGOING PROBLEMS.
06:23:29 TODAY YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM OFFICERS, CODE ENFORCEMENT
06:23:32 AND THE PUBLIC ON THE CONCERNS THAT THIS BUSINESS CONTINUES
06:23:37 TO OPERATE WITH DANGEROUS PROTOCOL.
06:23:39 THIS BUSINESS LIKE WAS TOLD TO YOU IS ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM A
06:23:43 DAYCARE CENTER, TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM A MAGNET SCHOOL, AND I
06:23:47 JUST REALLY WANT TO STRESS THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS THE FIRST
06:23:51 TIME COUNCIL IS HEARING THIS CODE, POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS
06:23:56 WORKED DILIGENTLY ON TRYING TO REMEDY THE SITUATION.
06:23:59 WITH THE EFFORT TO TRY AND NOT BE HERE TODAY.
06:24:05 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER.
06:24:06 >> THANK YOU, CURTIS.
06:24:11 AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO CALL UP KRYSTAL RAMOS, ONE OF
06:24:16 OUR CERTIFIED CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WITH THE
06:24:18 NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
06:24:20 SHE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT
06:24:23 HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN ISSUED AGAINST THIS PROPERTY, AND SHE'S
06:24:27 ALSO GOING TO PRESENT PHOTOS.
06:24:29 THE PHOTOS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE SCREEN BUT IT MIGHT BE
06:24:32 DIFFICULT TO SEE THEM SO I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOU TO SECTION
06:24:35 C TAB 3, AND ALL THE PHOTOS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME
06:24:40 ORDER THAT KRYSTAL IS PRESENTING.
06:24:43 IF YOU WANT TO OPEN UP SECTION 3, SECTION D HAS THREE, SO
06:24:48 YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT KRYSTAL WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU
06:24:51 GUYS.
06:25:01 AND I BELIEVE CRYSTAL HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN SWORN.
06:25:04 >> YES.
06:25:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED.
06:25:15 YOU MAY PROCEED.
06:25:16 >> MY NAME IS KRYSTAL RAMOS, A CERTIFIED CODE ENFORCEMENT
06:25:21 OFFICER WITH CITY OF TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT
06:25:23 DIVISION.
06:25:23 I HAVE BEEN A CODE OFFICER SINCE THE 2014.
06:25:26 I HAVE BEEN AN OFFICER IN DISTRICT 3 SINCE 2019.
06:25:29 I HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE ICC INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL
06:25:33 SINCE 2016.
06:25:34 ON FEBRUARY 17, 2021 DETECTIVE WILLIAMS AND I CONDUCTED AN
06:25:40 INSPECTION ALONG WITH TWO OTHER STATE OF FLORIDA AGENCIES
06:25:43 WHICH ARE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO AND LOTTERY DIVISION, AND
06:25:47 FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION FOR THE FOLLOWING TAMPA CODE
06:25:49 SECTIONS.
06:25:50 19-273-A, G WALL CEILINGS, IJ ELECTRICAL, 19512, OPERATION
06:26:00 OF A BUSINESS WHERE WIND CARRIES REFUSE INTO THE STREET, AND
06:26:06 5-105.1 BUILDING PERMITS REQUIRED.
06:26:10 A NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS ISSUED FOR SAID VIOLATIONS.
06:26:13 THE NOTICE WAS GENERATED VIA CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE PROPERTY
06:26:16 OWNER ON FEBRUARY 17, 2021.
06:26:19 THE CERTIFIED MAIL WAS RECEIVED AND SIGNED FOR ON FEBRUARY
06:26:21 22ND OF 2021.
06:26:23 >> AND I WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW ONCE MORE, SHE'S NOW
06:26:27 GOING TO BE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO SECTION E SUBSECTION 3.
06:26:33 SO YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG WITH THOSE PHOTOS SO YOU UNDERSTAND
06:26:38 WHAT'S GOING ON.
06:26:41 GO AHEAD, KRYSTAL.
06:26:42 >> PHOTO ONE IS THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS
06:26:46 YBOR GROCERIES.
06:26:47 PHOTO TWO IS A PHOTO DEPICTING THE EXTENSION OF THE
06:26:50 BUILDING, ROOFING AND ELECTRICAL THAT WAS ADDED TO THE
06:26:52 ORIGINAL STRUCTURE INSTALLED WITH NO PERMITS.
06:26:56 PHOTO THREE IS THE SECOND PHOTO SHOWING WHERE THE
06:26:58 UNPERMITTED ADDITION IS ALSO IN VIOLATION OF ZONING SETBACKS
06:27:02 PER CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
06:27:03 THE STRUCTURE IS WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE NEIGHBORING
06:27:06 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN VIOLATION OF SETBACK
06:27:10 REGULATIONS.
06:27:11 PHOTO FOUR IS SHOWING A NEW AC UNIT WITH ELECTRICAL
06:27:15 CONNECTIONS WHICH WAS INSTALLED AT THE REAR SIDE OF THE
06:27:17 EXTERIOR BUILDING.
06:27:19 THE AC UNIT AND ELECTRICAL WAS NOT INSTALLED TO CODE AND NO
06:27:22 PERMITS WERE OBTAINED.
06:27:25 PHOTO FIVE IS A PHOTO OF THE EXTERIOR WEST WALL OF THE
06:27:29 BUILDING.
06:27:29 THIS WALL IS BEHIND THE FRONT COUNTER WHERE SERVICE IS
06:27:32 PROVIDED TO PATRONS, A IN THIS PHOTO YOU CAN OBSERVE THE
06:27:36 ELECTRICAL BOX WITH EXCESSIVE WIRING THAT IS BEING ROUTED
06:27:38 BEHIND ANOTHER WALL AND CIRCUMVENTED THROUGH THE CEILING
06:27:41 WHICH IS NOT TO CITY CODE OR PERMITTING.
06:27:44 PHOTO SIX SHOWS INSTALLATION OF A COMMERCIAL RANGE THAT WAS
06:27:48 INSTALLED ON THE FOOD COOKING AND PREVENTION AREA LOCATED IN
06:27:52 FRONT OF THE STORE NEXT TO THE SALES COUNTER.
06:27:54 THERE'S A TOTAL OF TWO UNPERMITTED COOKING STATIONS IN THIS
06:27:57 BUILDING.
06:27:58 THE AREA IN THIS PHOTO IS WHERE ALL THE DELI SANDWICHES ARE
06:28:02 PREPARED AND SOLD TO PATRONS.
06:28:04 PHOTO 7 IS A CLOSEUP PHOTO OF ELECTRICAL WIRING, CONDUIT
06:28:08 INSTALLED BEING SIR CULL VENTED TO THE CEILING ABOVE COOKING
06:28:12 STATION ONE.
06:28:14 PHOTO EIGHT IS ANOTHER CLOSEUP PHOTO OF THE ELECTRICAL
06:28:17 RECEPTACLE AND CONDUIT WIRING INSTALLED WITH NO PERMIT.
06:28:22 PHOTO NINE IS AN INTERIOR PHOTO FACING SOUTH SIDE OF THE
06:28:26 BUILDING WHICH LEADS TO THE UNPERMITTED SECOND COOKING
06:28:29 STATION AND UNPERMITTED BACK OFFICE DEPICTED IN THE STORE
06:28:33 WAY WITH EXPOSED FRAMEWORK WHICH WAS ADDED WITHOUT A PERMIT.
06:28:39 PHOTO TEN IS AN INTERIOR PHOTO SHOWING THE EAST SIDE OF THE
06:28:42 BUILDING WHERE THE SECOND ILLEGAL COOKING STATION WAS
06:28:44 INSTALLED.
06:28:45 IN THIS PHOTO YOU CAN ALSO VIEW THE UNFINISHED ROOFING, AC
06:28:49 DUCT WORK, ELECTRICAL WIRING AND CONDUITS THAT WERE
06:28:51 INSTALLED WITHOUT PERMITS.
06:28:53 ALSO TO THE LEFT OF THE PHOTO YOU CAN VIEW THE UNFINISHED
06:28:55 WALL ADDITION AND EXPOSED FRAMEWORK.
06:28:59 PHOTO ELEVEN IS ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE SECOND COOKING STATION
06:29:02 WHICH SHOWS TWO SEPARATE SINKS WITH PLUMBING CONNECTIONS
06:29:05 THAT WERE NEWLY INSTALLED WITHOUT A PERMIT.
06:29:10 PHOTO TWELVE IS AN ADDITIONAL INTERIOR PHOTO NEXT TO THE
06:29:14 SECOND COOKING STATION WHICH SHOWS THE INSTALLATION OF A
06:29:16 WATER HEATER, A SECOND COMMERCIAL -- TO THE RIGHT OF THE
06:29:21 PHOTO.
06:29:21 ALSO UNFINISHED FRAMEWORK CAN BE VIEWED ALONG WITH NUMEROUS
06:29:24 EXPOSED ELECTRICAL WIRING AND PLUMBING AND UNFINISHED
06:29:29 CEILING INSTALLED WITH NO PERMIT.
06:29:31 PHOTO 13, THIS IS AN INTERIOR PHOTO OF THE SECOND COOKING
06:29:34 STATION DEPICTING THE SECOND EXHAUST HOOD RANGE INSTALLED
06:29:38 FOR THE FRIER AND STOVE.
06:29:40 THE UNFINISHED CEILING WITH BE SEEN ALONG WITH EXPOSED
06:29:43 ELECTRICAL CONDUITS AND WIRING.
06:29:46 PHOTO 14, THIS IS AN INTERIOR PHOTO OF THE SECOND COOKING
06:29:49 STATION SHOWING THE INSTALLATION OF A DEEP FRIER.
06:29:52 THE FRIER IS DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO THE VENTILATION DUCT AND
06:29:55 ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS WHICH CAN BE SEEN RUNNING NEAR THE
06:29:58 EDGE OF THE CEILING.
06:30:00 PHOTO 15, THIS IS A CLOSEUP PHOTO TAKEN ABOVE THE SECOND
06:30:03 COOKING STATION, UNFINISHED CEILING, PLUMBING, FRAME, AND
06:30:07 ELECTRICAL INSTALLED WITH NO PERMIT.
06:30:10 ALSO THE DUCTS SHOWN IN THE PHOTO ARE CONNECTED TO THE DEEP
06:30:14 FRIER BEING VENTED OUT TO AN UNKNOWN AREA.
06:30:17 PHOTO 16, THIS IS A CLOSEUP PHOTO, SHOWS THE ORIGINAL
06:30:21 PLUMBING TO THE BUILDING IN ADDITION TO THE NEW AND
06:30:23 UNFINISHED PLUMBING CONNECTIONS THAT WERE INSTALLED BEHIND
06:30:26 THE TWO SINKS AND THE SECOND COOKING AREA WITH NO PERMIT.
06:30:30 PHOTO 17 IS A CLOSEUP PHOTO OF ELECTRICAL CONDUITS AND
06:30:35 WIRING, CIRCUMVENTED THROUGH THE CEILING IN THE BACK OFFICE.
06:30:38 ALSO A NEWLY ALTERED ENTRANCE THAT WAS INSTALLED WITH NO
06:30:41 PERMITS.
06:30:43 PHOTO 18, THIS PHOTO WAS ALSO TAKEN IN THE BACK OFFICE WHEN
06:30:47 ELECTRICAL RECEPTACLE AND CONDUIT WERE INSTALLED AND ARE
06:30:50 BEING CIRCUMVENTED INTO THE CEILING WITH NO PERMIT.
06:30:54 PHOTO 19, THIS EXTERIOR PHOTO SHOWS EXCESSIVE AND OVERFLOW
06:30:58 OF TRASH AND DEBRIS FACING NORTH 15th WHICH DIRECT
06:31:04 DIRECTLY AFFECTS TRAFFIC AND NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
06:31:08 PHOTO 20, FINAL PHOTO OF TRASH ACCUMULATIONS WHICH CAN BE
06:31:11 VIEWED FROM THE RESIDENTIAL FRONT PORCH AND NORTH 15th
06:31:15 STREET.
06:31:15 THE TRASH SPREADS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITY
06:31:19 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
06:31:21 THAT IS THE FINAL OF THE PHOTOS.
06:31:24 THIS CAUSE WAS PRESENTED AND HEARD AT A PUBLIC HEARING
06:31:27 BEFORE THE BUILDING SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ON JULY 14, 2021.
06:31:30 THE PROPERTY WAS FOUND IN VIOLATION OF CITY OF TAMPA CODE AS
06:31:33 DESCRIBED IN THE ORIGINAL NOTICE OF VIOLATION OBTAINED BY
06:31:35 THE OWNER.
06:31:37 THE RESPONDENT FOR THE OWNER WAS PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE
06:31:40 HEARING.
06:31:40 AS OF TODAY'S DATE, AUGUST 26, 2021, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN
06:31:43 APPLIED FOR OR OBTAINED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
06:31:46 >> SHE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL.
06:31:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU SAY THIS CASE CAME BEFORE A MAGISTRATE.
06:31:57 WAS ANY TIME GIVEN FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE BROUGHT BACK INTO
06:32:00 COMPLIANCE?
06:32:02 >> YES.
06:32:03 I HAVE THE NOTICE HERE.
06:32:05 I BELIEVE IT'S 60 DAYS TIMELINE.
06:32:08 OH, NO PROBLEM.
06:32:09 >> THEY HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 13 OF 2021 TO COME INTO
06:32:20 COMPLIANCE WITH A $75 PER DAY FINE EACH DAY AFTER THAT, IF
06:32:23 THEY DO NOT COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
06:32:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: $75 PER DAY UNTIL BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE?
06:32:29 >> RIGHT.
06:32:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:32:31 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
06:32:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. RAMOS, THOSE ARE ALL THE VIOLATIONS
06:32:39 UNDER THE MAGISTRATE'S CONTROL AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME?
06:32:42 >> YES, IT IS.
06:32:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
06:32:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, ONE MORE QUESTION.
06:32:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
06:32:53 >> WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER CRATED ALSO?
06:32:56 >> THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS CITED.
06:32:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONLY THE PROPERTY OWNER?
06:32:59 >> RIGHT.
06:33:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:33:02 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
06:33:04 >> ONE OF THE OFFICERS FROM PD IS GOING TO EXPLAIN -- THE
06:33:14 FIRST ONE SAYS IS ROBERT -- HE'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
06:33:24 (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE)
06:33:33 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
06:33:35 GOOD EVENING.
06:33:36 MY NAME IS ROBERT PARKER WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT,
06:33:40 HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 19 YEARS, CURRENTLY ASSIGNED AS THE
06:33:43 SERGEANT TOTAL VIOLENT CRIMES FOR DISTRICT 3 WHICH COVERS
06:33:47 ALL OF EAST TAMPA.
06:33:49 FROM MAY OF 2020 TO PRESENT, OUR UNDERCOVER SQUAD HAS
06:33:55 CONDUCTED SEVEN SUCCESSFUL NARCOTICS BUYS OF COCAINE IN THIS
06:33:59 AREA.
06:34:00 IN ADDITION TO OFFICERS RESPONDING OUT TO THAT LOCATION, 153
06:34:06 TIMES FROM JANUARY 2020 TO JANUARY 2021.
06:34:11 IN ADDITION TO OFFICERS RESPONDED OUT TO BE 13 SHOTS FIRED
06:34:18 ACTIVATIONS IN THE AREA AND SHOTS FIRED ACTIVATIONS ARE --
06:34:23 IT'S A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS
06:34:26 USED.
06:34:28 IT DETECTS SHOTS THAT ARE FIRED, AND OFFICERS RESPOND TO
06:34:33 THAT AREA, AND WILL GIVE US AN EXACT LOCATION WHERE THAT
06:34:37 OCCURRED.
06:34:38 OFFICERS THEN TRY TO LOCATE ANY SHELL CASINGS AND SO FORTH.
06:34:43 WE GET THAT INFORMATION IN SECONDS OF THE ACTIVATION, WHICH
06:34:46 HELPS WITH OUR RESPONSE, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE FIND ANYTHING.
06:34:53 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THERE IS A SLIDE DEPICTING THE NUMBERS
06:35:01 THAT HE INDICATED TO YOU OF THE 153 TOTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
06:35:04 EVENTS BETWEEN 2020 AND JULY OF 2021.
06:35:09 THERE ARE SEVEN SUCCESSFUL UNDERCOVER DRUG BUYS BETWEEN MAY
06:35:13 2020 AND JANUARY 2021 AND THE 13 SHOOTING EVENTS A BETWEEN
06:35:19 MARCH 2020 AND JULY 2021 FOR SHOTS FIRED.
06:35:29 AS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, PART OF THE REASON WHY SOME OF
06:35:33 THESE HAVE TAKEN PLACE BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT RECEIVED
06:35:36 SEVERAL CITIZEN COMPLAINTS.
06:35:38 ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A PICTURE, ACTUAL
06:35:43 AUDIO FROM A 911 CALL THAT'S COME IN RELATED TO ACTIVITY
06:35:47 TAKING PLACE AS YBOR GROCERY.
06:35:50 NOW IF YOU TURN TO TAB E-1, THERE IS AN AFFIDAVIT FROM THE
06:35:56 911 RECORDS CUSTODIAN AUTHENTICATING THE AUDIO AND RIGHT
06:36:01 BEHIND IT THERE'S AN TRANSCRIPT OF THE CALL.
06:36:16 (AUDIO RECORDING BEING PLAYED).
06:36:40 (AUDIO RECORDING).
06:37:03 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THE SPECIFIC INCIDENT AT YBOR
06:38:03 GROCERIES, CORPORAL RONI HILL.
06:38:07 CORPORAL RONI I BELIEVE IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
06:38:19 CORPORAL RONI HILL.
06:38:36 >> I'M RONI HILL WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
06:38:54 I AM A STREET CORPORAL FOR EAST TAMPA.
06:38:56 I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED NINE YEARS THROUGH THE CITY.
06:38:59 A YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE THAT, RESERVE OFFICER.
06:39:01 I HAVE WORKED THE MAJORITY OF MY CAREER IN EAST TAMPA.
06:39:05 I HAVE TAKEN SEVERAL CALLS AT THIS BUSINESS, PATROL OFFICER
06:39:10 FROM MY DETECTIVE'S STANDPOINT, AND ALSO I WANT TO TALK TO A
06:39:15 CASE THAT I WAS ASSIGNED TO, THE STREET ANTI-CRIME SQUAD,
06:39:22 AND ON THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT, IT WAS MARCH 9th, AROUND
06:39:26 MIDNIGHT, AROUND 12:40 IN THE MORNING, WE GET VARIOUS
06:39:31 COMPLAINTS FOR NARCOTICS AT THE BUSINESS.
06:39:35 THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT MY SQUAD SET UP AROUND THE BUSINESS
06:39:38 BECAUSE WE SAW A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC, A LOT OF HAND TO HAND
06:39:42 TRANSACTIONS.
06:39:43 I WAS PARTNERED WITH SERGEANT RHODES.
06:39:46 I WAS A PASSENGER IN HIS VEHICLE.
06:39:48 WE PARKED ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER, AND WE HAD AN
06:39:51 UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW OF THE BUSINESS.
06:39:53 THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS, YBOR GROCERIES SITS ON THE
06:39:58 NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION, AND THIS PARTICULAR
06:40:01 NIGHT WE SAW A GENTLEMAN WEARING A JEAN VEST, LIGHT BLUE
06:40:07 SHIRT, LIGHT JEAN PANTS AND HE MADE SEVERAL HAND TO HAND
06:40:11 TRANSACTIONS BY THE DUMPSTER THAT YOU SAW IN THE PHOTOS THAT
06:40:13 WERE SHOWN PREVIOUSLY.
06:40:16 SO I HAD ABOUT EIGHT OFFICERS ON THE SQUAD AT THAT TIME SO
06:40:20 WE MADE OUR PLAN, SO WHEN THE GENTLEMAN WENT BEHIND THE
06:40:22 DUMPSTER, WE WERE ALL JUST KIND OF MOVE INTO THE PARKING
06:40:26 LOT.
06:40:26 SO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, HE NEVER WENT BACK TO THE
06:40:29 DUMPSTER, BUT HE WAS ON THE LEDGE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE
06:40:34 BUSINESS, THE FIRST ENTRANCE DOOR WHEN YOU WALK IN, AT THE
06:40:37 WINDOW LEDGE, AND HE WAS -- HE HAD SOMETHING UP THERE.
06:40:41 WE COULDN'T SEE WHAT IT WAS, BUT HE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF
06:40:44 DOING SOMETHING.
06:40:45 SO WE WAITED MAYBE ABOUT 10, 15 MINUTES AND WE ALL JUST
06:40:48 MOVED INTO THE PARKING LOT.
06:40:49 AS SOON AS WE WENT INTO THE PARKING LOT THE GENTLEMAN TOOK
06:40:52 OFF, RAN INTO THE STORE.
06:40:54 I FOLLOWED BEHIND HIM.
06:40:55 AND HE ENDED UP DISCARDING SOME NARCOTICS INTO THE BUSINESS.
06:40:59 HE MADE SPONTANEOUS ADMISSION.
06:41:03 ULTIMATELY HE WAS ARRESTED.
06:41:04 WE WERE ABLE TO RECOVER THE NARCOTICS.
06:41:06 IT WAS 6.9 GRAMS OF CRACK COCAINE AND ANOTHER GENTLEMAN OUT
06:41:12 SIDE WHO WAS ALSO SELLING MARIJUANA AND WE WERE ABLE TO
06:41:15 RECOVER JUST ABOUT 35 GRAMS OF MARIJUANA.
06:41:19 BOTH SUSPECTS WERE ARRESTED, AND TAKEN TO ORIENT ROAD JAIL.
06:41:23 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: BOTH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE CHARGED,
06:41:34 PROSECUTED, AND I WAS ONE -- FELONY AMOUNT IN POSSESSION OF
06:41:40 COCAINE THAT STEMMED FROM THE CASE.
06:41:42 THE NEXT WITNESS THAT WE HAVE IS GOING TO BE OFFICER WAYNE
06:41:46 EASILY,
06:41:47 ONE OF THE OTHER TRANSACTIONS, NARCOTICS TRANSACTIONS TAKEN
06:41:52 PLAGUE PLACE ON-SITE.
06:41:54 HE'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
06:42:02 WAYNE EASLEY: GOOD EVENING.
06:42:23 MY NAME IS WAYNE EASLEY.
06:42:25 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
06:42:26 I'M A POLICE OFFICER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I HAVE BEEN
06:42:29 FOR 18 AND A HALF YEARS.
06:42:31 PRIOR TO THAT TEN YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE STATE OF
06:42:34 MISSOURI, WORKING UNDERCOVER NARCOTICS.
06:42:38 FROM FEBRUARY OF 18 TO FEBRUARY OF 21, I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE
06:42:43 TACTICAL NARCOTICS TEAM.
06:42:46 OUR SOLE MISSION WAS TO CONDUCT STREET LEVEL NARCOTICS BASE
06:42:50 ACROSS THE CITY.
06:42:52 MY AREA WAS DISTRICT 3, HERE IN TAMPA.
06:42:59 WE SENT OUT AN INFORMANT ON THREE SEPARATE INDICATIONS, THE
06:43:03 FIRST TIME, AUGUST 6 OF 2020.
06:43:06 WE PURCHASED CRACK COCAINE FROM AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE
06:43:09 PROPERTY, YBOR GROCERIES.
06:43:11 THE SECOND WAS SEPTEMBER 24, 2020.
06:43:15 AGAIN PURCHASED NARCOTICS FROM AN INDIVIDUAL SILTING ON A
06:43:19 MILK CRATE THERE.
06:43:20 THEN THE THIRD TIME WE ARRESTED AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAD A
06:43:24 LOCAL TPD PICKUP BEFORE, NARCOTICS, AT THE TIME OF HIS
06:43:27 ARREST HE HAD POSSESSION OF COCAINE, MARIJUANA AND
06:43:31 METHAMPHETAMINE ON HIS PERSON.
06:43:34 JUST TO PIGGYBACK WHAT SERGEANT PARTNER SAID, THE SEVEN BUYS
06:43:38 ONLY REFLECT FROM 20 TO 21 BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 16 BUYS AT THIS
06:43:43 LOCATION, ALL FOR CRACK COCAINE.
06:43:45 NOTHING LESS, NOTHING MORE.
06:43:48 DURING MY TENURE FOR THE NARCOTICS UNIT THERE, WE WOULD
06:43:54 CHANGE OUR HOURS AND WE WOULD COME IN AND SATURATE THE AREA
06:43:58 BECAUSE IT WAS OUT OF CONTROL.
06:44:00 LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE, SHOTS BEING FIRED, PEOPLE FIGHTING.
06:44:04 IT REALLY IS A NUISANCE.
06:44:08 I WAS ASKED TO IS SPEAK ON THESE SPECIFIC CASES TODAY.
06:44:12 I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
06:44:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
06:44:20 MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:44:22 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
06:44:25 THE ATTORNEY CAN SHUT ME DOWN IF I SHOULDN'T ASK THIS
06:44:28 QUESTION, BUT THIS IS ABOUT ALCOHOL LICENSE, RIGHT?
06:44:32 AND SO WE HAVE HEARD LOTS OF TESTIMONY ABOUT DRUG DEALING.
06:44:36 IS THERE SOME POINT -- I AM JUST ASKING AN INNOCENT
06:44:39 QUESTION.
06:44:43 IS THERE SOME POINT THAT SOMEBODY WILL TESTIFY TO THE
06:44:45 CORRELATION BETWEEN AN ALCOHOL LICENSE AND DRUG DEALING?
06:44:50 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
06:44:51 AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS DETAILED IN 27-118.
06:44:55 IN ORDER TO SUSPEND THE LICENSE, THE VIOLATIONS DON'T
06:44:58 NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE RELATED TO ALCOHOL SALES.
06:45:00 BECAUSE THE SALE OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES ON THE PROPERTY, WE
06:45:07 WANT RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE
06:45:10 TO SELL ALCOHOL REQUEST THE CITY.
06:45:12 AND WHEN THEY ARE ALLOWING AND ENGAGING IN CRIMINAL
06:45:15 ACTIVITY, THAT'S A BUSINESS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT
06:45:18 TO BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AT THE TIME, AND.
06:45:24 >>BILL CARLSON: AND AGAIN SHUT ME DOWN IF I CAN'T ASK THIS
06:45:28 QUESTION.
06:45:28 BUT IS THIS PROPOSAL PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY?
06:45:33 BECAUSE SOMEONE TESTIFIED THAT THEY SELL COFFEE THERE.
06:45:38 SO THEY DON'T SELL ALCOHOL BUT THEY SELL COFFEE.
06:45:43 COULD PEOPLE STILL SELL DRUGS THERE?
06:45:45 IS THERE MULTI-FACETED SOLUTION TO THIS?
06:45:49 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: SO PART OF THE ISSUE AND YOU WILL HEAR
06:45:51 THIS LATER ON IS THERE'S AN EFFORT TO GET THE BUSINESS OWNER
06:45:54 TO COOPERATE IN SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT EXIST ON THE
06:45:56 PROPERTY.
06:45:57 BECAUSE YOU WILL HEAR LATER TESTIMONY AS REGARDING HOW MUCH
06:46:02 THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO AND HOW MUCH THEY HAVE ACTUALLY
06:46:05 DONE SO UP TO THIS POINT.
06:46:09 BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS ISSUE.
06:46:12 THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SELL COFFEE AND THAT KIND OF
06:46:15 THING, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE WANT BUSINESSES THAT SELL
06:46:19 ALCOHOL TO BE ABLE TO COOPERATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN
06:46:22 THERE ARE ISSUES ON THEIR PROPERTY TO TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN
06:46:25 HELPING TO PREVENT AND ALLEVIATE ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
06:46:28 TAKING PLACE ON THE PROPERTY.
06:46:29 WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT YBOR GROCERY HAS DONE SO AND THAT'S
06:46:33 WHY WE ARE --
06:46:37 >>SIMONE SAVINO: I WOULD BRING YOU BACK TO 27-133rd
06:46:41 18-C.
06:46:42 THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT CAN GO ON THE PROPERTY IN ORDER FOR IT
06:46:46 TO BE RIPE FOR SUSPENSION OR EVEN REVOCATION OF THEIR
06:46:50 ORDINANCE.
06:46:50 SO ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU NOW WE
06:46:54 BELIEVE FALLS UNDER SUBSECTION EB, C AND D.
06:46:58 SO THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SEEING, THE VIOLATION FOR B, C OR D,
06:47:05 WHICH SPEAKS TO THAT NUISANCE, DISORDERLY CONDUCT, OR
06:47:08 NEGATIVE SECONDARY EFFECTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
06:47:12 THAT'S HOW IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU.
06:47:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN YOU SAY ALCOHOL SALES AT THE
06:47:23 PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT CAUSES CRIMINAL ELEMENT EFFECTS OF
06:47:29 THE NEIGHBOR AND AT THAT LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY.
06:47:32 >> AND THAT'S DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE ONE OF THE
06:47:37 ALLEGATIONS DEAL WITH CONGREGATING ON THE PROPERTY AND THE
06:47:42 SALE OF ALCOHOL THAT LEADS TO CONGREGATION, THAT FOSTERS
06:47:45 SOME OF THE THINGS BUT IN 27, 318, THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE
06:47:54 A CORRELATION.
06:47:54 IT'S JUST CRITERIA IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE A CONNECTION.
06:47:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:48:00 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: COUNCIL, WE MOVED ON FROM THE DRUG
06:48:06 ALLEGATIONS, AND THE NEXT SECTION IS GOING TO BE DEALING
06:48:10 WITH VIOLATIONS THAT INVOLVE GUNS.
06:48:11 THE FIRST OFFICER TO TESTIFY IS GOING TO BE OFFICER DERRICK
06:48:14 JOHNSON.
06:48:15 HE'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
06:48:16 >> OFFICER DERRECK JOHNSON:
06:48:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN.
06:48:29 BEFORE THE NEXT PERSON COMES TO TESTIFY, THIS IS A PACKAGE
06:48:36 SALES LICENSE, BUT NO CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES?
06:48:42 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
06:48:43 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THERE'S NO AUTHORIZATION FOR
06:48:44 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, THAT'S CORRECT.
06:48:47 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
06:48:48 THE 2(APS) FOR PACKAGE SALES ONLY.
06:48:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD.
06:48:52 THEN I MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE NEXT POLICE
06:48:55 OFFICER.
06:48:55 THANK YOU.
06:48:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN SEE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL -- [OFF
06:49:11 MICROPHONE]
06:49:13 >> DERRECK JOHNSON, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
06:49:20 I HAVE BEEN HERE EMPLOYED APPROXIMATELY 12 YEARS.
06:49:25 ON THE NIGHT OF DECEMBER 19, 2020, MYSELF AND OFFICERS
06:49:30 RESPONDED TO THE LISTED LOCATION REFERENCE TO SHOTS FIRED IN
06:49:35 THE AREA, POST INVESTIGATION IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE WAS A
06:49:41 GROUP AT THE LOCATION AT 15th STREET ON THE EAST SIDE OF
06:49:47 15th AND 26th.
06:49:49 I HAD A LARGE GROUP ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, WEST SIDE OF
06:49:53 15th AND 26th.
06:49:57 MY INVOLVEMENT WAS I WAS A TRAINING OFFICER AT THE TIME AND
06:50:00 PROBATIONARY OFFICER WHERE I SECURED THE SCENE TO CONDUCT
06:50:04 CRIMES INVOLVED, ALSO TO OBSERVE THE SCENE WHERE THERE WAS
06:50:07 NUMEROUS SHELL CASINGS, AND BULLET PROJECTILES FOUND ON THE
06:50:13 GROUND, TO INCLUDE DAMAGE OF CARS AND ON THE BUILDING.
06:50:17 WE THEN PROCEEDED TO GO INSIDE TO GET THE VIDEO FOOTAGE OF
06:50:23 THE CAMERA WHICH POINTS DOWN AT THE EXACT SCENE THAT WE
06:50:28 RESPONDED FOR AT WHICH TIME MY BODY CAMERA WAS COVERED UP
06:50:32 WITH A JACKET DUE TO THE FACT IT WAS A LITTLE COLD.
06:50:36 BUT AUDIO VERSION COULD BE CLEARLY HEARD SAYING I AM GOING
06:50:40 BACK AND FORTH WITH THE EMPLOYEES ASKING THEM TO GET ACCESS
06:50:44 TO THE CAMERAS TO ALLOW US TO SEE QUICKLY USE RESOURCES TO
06:50:50 TRACK DOWN THE PEOPLE THAT WAS OUT HERE SHOOTING.
06:50:54 AND TO GET TO THE CAMERAS, FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF BEING IN
06:51:02 EAST TAMPA FOR MY 12 YEARS, I HAVE IT HAPPEN BEFORE, I HAVE
06:51:07 GONE IN, TRADE TO GET CAMERAS, VIDEO FOOTAGE, AND BACK AND
06:51:10 FORTH, THE MANUAL IS NOT THERE, CAMERA NOT WORKING, DON'T
06:51:16 HAVE ACCESS TO IT, AND --
06:51:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:51:31 >> WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR EVENT THERE IS FOOTAGE WE
06:51:35 WOULD LIKE TO SHOW ON THE PowerPoint SLIDE.
06:51:38 AFTER THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON THE PREMISES, THESE ARE
06:51:42 EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE AFTER OFFICER JOHNSON WAS ON SCENE SO
06:51:46 THEY WERE TAKING PLACE OFF-SITE.
06:51:48 AVIATION GOT INVOLVED, AND THE INDIVIDUALS, THE INDIVIDUAL
06:51:55 WAS SUBSEQUENTLY LOCATED.
06:51:56 MULTIPLE OF THEM WERE LOCATED WITH FIREARMS ON THEIR PERSON.
06:52:01 SOME HAVE BEEN CHARGED.
06:52:02 SOME CONVICTIONS ALREADY.
06:52:04 SOME ARE STILL PENDING.
06:52:05 I WILL SHOW YOU THIS IS YBOR GROCERY.
06:52:18 A VEHICLE PARKED IN FRONT OF IT.
06:52:20 THE BLUE ARROWS ARE POINTING OUT SHELL CASINGS.
06:52:26 15 WERE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
06:52:27 THIS IS A VEHICLE THAT WAS PARKED IN FRONT MUCH YBOR
06:52:30 GROCERY.
06:52:30 YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE A BULLET HOLE IN THE WINDSHIELD THAT
06:52:34 STEMMED FROM THE SHOOTING THAT TOOK PLACE ON THE PROPERTY
06:52:36 THAT NIGHT.
06:52:37 THE NEXT PHOTO YOU WILL SEE ONE OF THE FIREARMS AND BULLETS
06:52:40 THAT WAS LOCATED AND, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WAS ARRESTED.
06:52:45 THIS IS ANOTHER FIREARM THAT WAS LOCATED IN ASSOCIATION WITH
06:52:49 THIS CASE.
06:52:53 WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE ADDITIONAL FIREARMS THAT WERE
06:52:57 INVOLVED AND LOCATED AS A RESULT.
06:53:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I AM ABLE TO ASK OF ALL THESE
06:53:14 WEAPONS THAT WERE TAKEN AND WHO THEY WERE TAKEN FROM, DO YOU
06:53:17 HAVE AN AGE RANGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CHARGED WITH
06:53:24 POSSESSION OF THESE FIREARMS?
06:53:27 >> I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.
06:53:28 AS FAR AS THE NUMBER, NOT EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED WAS
06:53:31 APPREHENDED.
06:53:32 THERE WERE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT.
06:53:42 AS FAR AS THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ARRESTED AND CHARGED, IT
06:53:46 WILL TAKE ME A MINUTE BUT I CAN FIND IT FOR YOU.
06:53:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WERE THE MAJORITY
06:53:52 OF THESE MINORS, OR WERE THESE OF LEGAL AGE?
06:53:58 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THE ONES WHO WERE ARRESTED WERE ALL
06:54:02 ADULTS.
06:54:03 THERE IS ONE THAT WAS A MINOR BUT THAT WILL BE DETAILED IN
06:54:08 THE NEXT CASE.
06:54:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE ALL THESE WEAPONS, AND I LOOK AT THE
06:54:17 NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS YOU HAVE, IN YOUR REPORT, SO WE ARE
06:54:23 HERE IN REFERENCE TO ALCOHOL SUSPENSION.
06:54:26 BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT ON THIS
06:54:31 PROPERTY WITH THE NUMBER, THE VIOLATION OF CODE THAT I SEE
06:54:36 IN THIS BUILDING, WHY ARE WE NOT DOING BOTH?
06:54:39 BECAUSE I SEE A NUISANCE ABATEMENT CASE HERE, WHEN I SEE ALL
06:54:42 OF THIS ACTIVITY ON THIS PROPERTY.
06:54:44 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
06:54:46 SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY NOTICED FOR VIOLATION FOR THE NUISANCE
06:54:52 ABATEMENT BOARD.
06:54:54 THEY DID RECEIVE A NOTICE I BELIEVE ON FEBRUARY 17 OF 2021.
06:54:58 A ONCE THE NOTICE IS RECEIVED, THAT'S PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE
06:55:02 THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF
06:55:04 ABATEMENT BEFORE IT GOES BEFORE THE PUBLIC NUISANCE
06:55:07 ABATEMENT BOARD.
06:55:09 I WILL SAY THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY BEING MONITORED
06:55:12 FOR ANY ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS THAT QUALIFY.
06:55:17 FOR THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD CRITERIA BECAUSE THERE'S
06:55:21 VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE TO OCCUR
06:55:23 WITHIN A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME.
06:55:25 AND YES, HE'S GOING TO BE TESTIFYING LATER AND CAN ANSWER
06:55:30 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD
06:55:33 BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY PRESENTED THAT LETTER BY
06:55:36 NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
06:55:37 BUT IT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THAT AND IS CONTINUED TO BE
06:55:40 MONITORED FOR POTENTIAL PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE
06:55:43 ABATEMENT BOARD.
06:55:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE A LOT OF SITUATIONS HERE, THIS
06:55:51 PARTICULAR OWNER OR RENTEE OF THIS CONVENIENCE STORE HERE, I
06:55:54 SEE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.
06:55:58 YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
06:55:59 >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.
06:56:02 ONE, WE OFFER TALK AT COUNCIL ABOUT ESPECIALLY POLICE
06:56:06 OFFICER OF THE MONTH, WE TALK ABOUT THE APPRECIATION WE HAVE
06:56:11 THAT THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY, AND WHAT YOU JUST
06:56:14 SHOWED US IS PRETTY FRIGHTENING AND YOU HAVE ONLY GOTTEN
06:56:17 PARTLY THROUGH THE PICTURES.
06:56:19 TWO QUESTIONS.
06:56:19 THE FIRST ONE IS, WERE ANY OF THESE WEAPONS PULLED ON THE
06:56:23 OFFICERS OR WERE ANY OF THEM FIRED AT OFFICERS?
06:56:26 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: IN THIS CASE, NO.
06:56:28 THERE WERE NONE THAT WERE INVOLVED.
06:56:30 NO SHOOTING OF OFFICERS THAT WAS ALLEGED OR ANYTHING LIKE
06:56:34 THAT.
06:56:35 >>BILL CARLSON: ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT CHAIRMAN WAS
06:56:37 ASKING, SEEN A LINEUP OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, OBVIOUSLY WE
06:56:43 KNOW CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OTHERS ARE GOING TO WANT TO
06:56:46 COMMENT ON IT.
06:56:47 JUST A ROUGH GUESS, I BET THIS CITY HAS 100,000 TO 200,000
06:56:53 IN THIS PLUS THE LIVES AT RISK.
06:56:55 DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY MECHANISM TO TRY TO GET REIMBURSED
06:56:58 FROM VIOLATORS LIKE THIS?
06:56:59 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: I WILL BE HONEST, THAT'S A QUESTION I
06:57:02 DON'T NO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
06:57:05 >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL ASK ANOTHER TIME.
06:57:06 BUT IT'S A HUGE COST, AND FOR THE CITY TO HAVE TO WADE
06:57:12 THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
06:57:13 THANK YOU.
06:57:14 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: I WILL SAY IT'S A PRIORITY BECAUSE
06:57:16 THERE ARE SO MANY INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU WILL HEAR FROM TODAY,
06:57:19 THERE'S SO MANY CITIZENS WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT A LOT OF
06:57:22 THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, INCLUDING SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE
06:57:25 WHICH IS WHY THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT'S PRESENTED.
06:57:28 WE WANT TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS FROM THE CITIZENRY.
06:57:31 WHEN THEY ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LOCATION, WE ARE GOING
06:57:34 TO TRY TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO AMELIORATE THE ISSUES AND
06:57:39 THIS IS A MECHANISM WE THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE.
06:57:41 >>BILL CARLSON: AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT BY THE
06:57:44 CITY.
06:57:45 IT'S JUST NOT FAIR THAT VIOLATORS DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
06:57:49 >>SIMONE SAVINO: UNDERSTOOD.
06:57:52 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THE NEXT CASE THAT'S PRESENTED IS
06:57:54 GOING TO BE FROM CORPORAL TAYLOR HART.
06:57:57 HE'S DOWNS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
06:57:59 I BELIEVE HE HAS THIS ONE.
06:58:00 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
06:58:28 >> YES, SIR, I HAVE.
06:58:30 MY NAME IS TAYLOR HART, A CORPORAL FOR THE TAMPA POLICE
06:58:32 DEPARTMENT.
06:58:33 I HAVE BEEN WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR NINE YEARS.
06:58:36 CURRENTLY I'M ASSIGNED TO THE DISTRICT ANTI-CRIME SQUAD
06:58:40 WHICH IS A PLAIN CLOTHES SQUAD THAT RESPONDS TO COMPLAINTS
06:58:43 OF NARCOTICS AND VIOLENCE IN PARTICULAR AREAS.
06:58:46 THE CASE THAT I AM GOING TO SPEAK TO SPECIFICALLY TODAY
06:58:49 HAPPENED ON DECEMBER 27 OF 2020.
06:58:51 WE RECEIVED AN ANONYMOUS COMPLAINT ABOUT TWO INDIVIDUALS ON
06:58:54 THE PROPERTY OF YBOR GROCERY SELLING NARCOTICS.
06:58:58 MYSELF AND SERGEANT CONRAD WERE RIDING IN A TWO-MAN UNIT IN
06:59:01 THE AREA, ARRIVED ON SCENE, AND AS WE ARRIVED ON SCENE,
06:59:05 THOSE TWO DESCRIBED INDIVIDUALS WERE STILL ON PROPERTY.
06:59:08 UPON COMING IN CONTACT WITH THE TWO INDIVIDUALS, ONE OF THEM
06:59:12 WAS AN ADULT, THE OTHER WAS A 15-YEAR-OLD JUVENILE.
06:59:15 HE TOLD US THAT HE WAS CURRENT LIT ON ACTIVE PROBATION, THE
06:59:20 INCIDENT WAS ABOUT 10:15 P.M.
06:59:22 MOST JUVENILE PROBATIONS ARE RIGHT AROUND 7 P.M., SO WE ARE
06:59:28 WELL AWARE THAT HE WAS PAST CURFEW.
06:59:30 AT THAT POINT HE WAS DETAINED AND SERGEANT CONRAD ASKED HIM
06:59:34 IF HE HAD ANYTHING ILLEGAL ON HIS PERSON.
06:59:35 THE JUVENILE DEFENDANT THEN STATED THAT HE HAD A FIREARM.
06:59:42 LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THE MAKE.
06:59:44 IT WAS ACTUALLY A WALTER PK SEMI FIREARM WHICH WAS IN HIS
06:59:49 LEFT WAISTBAND.
06:59:50 IT ACTUALLY HAD ONE ROUND IN THE CHAMBER AND SEVERAL IN THE
06:59:54 MAGAZINE.
06:59:54 IT WAS NOT HOLSTERED AND OBVIOUSLY COULD HAVE DISCHARGED ON
06:59:58 HIS PERSON AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME.
07:00:00 HE WAS ARRESTED AND HIS JUVENILE PROBATION WAS VIOLATED
07:00:03 ACCORDINGLY.
07:00:03 TO KIND OF ADD TO IT WE WERE OUT THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE
07:00:06 BECAUSE WE HAD TO CALL CRIME SCENE TECH TO CALL THE FIREARM.
07:00:11 AT NO POINT DID THE PROPERTY OWNER OR ANY REFUSE OF THE
07:00:13 BUSINESS COME OUT AND ASK IF ANYBODY WANTED TRESPASSED OR IF
07:00:17 THERE WAS ANY ISSUE THAT THEY COULD HELP US WITH.
07:00:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OFFICER, DID YOU ASK THE PROPERTY OWNER DO
07:00:28 YOU WANT A TRESPASS?
07:00:30 >> NO, SIR, WE DID NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE DID NOT.
07:00:34 BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO NOT GET MUCH ASSISTANCE SO
07:00:40 THAT'S PROBABLY ON ME.
07:00:41 I SHOULD HAVE.
07:00:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I?
07:00:48 OFFICER, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST DEALING YOU HAVE HAD WITH THAT
07:00:52 GROCERY STORE, IS IT?
07:00:53 >> NO, SIR, IT IS NOT.
07:00:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOW OFTEN HAVE YOU SEEN FIREARMS THERE?
07:00:58 >> SO I CAN SPEAK GENERALLY TO THE CASE THAT WAS TALKED
07:01:02 ABOUT BEFORE.
07:01:02 IT WAS ACTUALLY MY SQUAD THAT ACTUALLY WROTE THE SEARCH
07:01:05 WARRANT ON IT.
07:01:06 I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME TIMES OR
07:01:11 ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT WE DID RESPOND TO THAT ACTIVATION OF
07:01:13 MULTIPLE ROUNDS.
07:01:14 A VEHICLE WAS FOLLOWED BY AVIATION APPROXIMATELY THREE
07:01:17 BLOCKS AWAY.
07:01:19 AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
07:01:22 WE ACTUALLY ARRESTED ONE PERSON, AND THEN OBSERVED FIREARMS
07:01:26 IN PLAIN VIEW ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE VEHICLE DROVE FROM
07:01:30 YBOR GROCERY TO THIS PROPERTY.
07:01:32 ONCE WE GOT THERE, A SEARCH WARRANT WAS AUTHORED, MULTIPLE
07:01:36 FIREARMS WERE RECOVERED.
07:01:37 WE ONLY ARRESTED ONE, BUT LATENT INVESTIGATION,
07:01:41 FINGERPRINTS, DNA, MULTIPLE WARRANTS WERE ISSUED.
07:01:44 THEY WERE ALL ADULT MALES, ALL BETWEEN PROBABLY 25 AND 35
07:01:48 YEARS OLD.
07:01:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUNG ADULTS.
07:01:51 THANK YOU, OFFICER.
07:01:52 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: COUNCIL, ON THIS PowerPoint, THERE
07:02:02 IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE FIREARM LOCATED IN THE JUVENILE,
07:02:08 DECEMBER 27, 2020.
07:02:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: PROCEED.
07:02:12 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THE NEXT OFFICER IS GOING TO BE
07:02:17 OFFICER NABIL MEHDAOUI, APRIL 17, 2021.
07:02:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
07:02:47 >> MY NAME IS OFFICER MEHDAOUI.
07:02:50 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN PRIOR TO THIS TESTIMONY.
07:02:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED.
07:02:54 >> MY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS CASE WAS ABOUT APRIL 27th,
07:03:00 2021, AROUND ONE IN THE MORNING.
07:03:03 I WAS CALLED IN TO TRANSLATE FROM ARABIC INTO ENGLISH IN
07:03:09 REFERENCE TO A CALL ABOUT SHOTS FIRED IN THIS AREA.
07:03:13 I HAVE BEEN WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FOUR YEARS.
07:03:15 AND I WORK IN DISTRICT 2.
07:03:17 AND I HAVE BEEN A POLICE OFFICER ABOUT TEN YEARS.
07:03:21 OF WHICH I WAS A PATROL OFFICER AND A DETECTIVE.
07:03:24 AND ON THIS DAY, I CAME IN TO THE AREA, AND I TALKED TO THE
07:03:30 OFFICERS THAT WERE ON SCENE, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THERE HAD
07:03:34 BEEN SOME SHOTS FIRED, THEY HAVE SOMEBODY IN CUSTODY, AND
07:03:38 WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HIS INVOLVEMENT, COULD NOT SPEAK
07:03:41 ENGLISH.
07:03:42 I AM A NATIVE ARABIC SPEAKER.
07:03:45 AND I CONDUCTED AN INTERVIEW WITH THE SUSPECT THAT THEY
07:03:50 SUSPECTED WAS SHOOTING A FIREARM IN THE AREA.
07:03:54 I TALKED TO THE SUSPECT WHO WAS IDENTIFIED AS THE STORE
07:03:57 CLERK, AND VISIONED MIRANDA WARNINGS AND HIS RIGHTS, HE
07:04:03 WISHED TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT, AND HE SAID THAT HE'S A NIGHT
07:04:06 CLERK, HE HAS BEEN WORKING THERE FOR A YEAR OR TWO, AND HE
07:04:10 SAID ON THIS DAY THERE WAS A CUSTOMER OR PATRON WHO COMES TO
07:04:13 THE STORE, AND HE IS CONSTANTLY A PROBLEM FOR THEM, FOR THE
07:04:18 STORE.
07:04:18 HE SHOPLIFTS AND CAUSES A PROBLEM AND CURSES THE STORE
07:04:24 EMPLOYEES.
07:04:24 ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY, THE STORE EMPLOYEE SAID THAT HE SAW
07:04:27 THIS SUBJECT WHO HE FREQUENTS THEM ALL THE TIME.
07:04:31 HE SAID HE CAME IN.
07:04:33 HE SHOPLIFTED CHEWS AND CHIPS AND WALKED OUT OF THE STORE
07:04:36 AND THREATENED HIM THAT HE'S GOING TO BEAT HIM UP AND SLAP
07:04:40 HIM, AND HE SAID THE STORE CLERK TOOK OFFENSE TO THAT AND HE
07:04:43 PICKED UP A FIREARM THAT HE KEEPS UNDER THE COUNTER, WALKED
07:04:47 OUTSIDE AND FIRED SEVERAL SHOTS TO SCARE HIM OFF SO HE DID
07:04:50 NOT COME BACK.
07:04:53 I REMEMBER TELLING THE STORE CLERK, THIS IS NOT THE MIDDLE
07:04:55 EAST, YOU CAN'T JUST FIRE SHOTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:04:59 AND WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN AND IT COULD ACTUALLY HURT
07:05:02 SOMEONE.
07:05:03 SO HE ADMITTED TO SHOOTING THE FIREARM, AND HIDING THE FAIR
07:05:06 ARM, HIDING IN THE BACK OF THE STORE.
07:05:09 AND THE OFFICER THEN INVESTIGATED THIS CASE, WHEN THEY
07:05:13 RESPONDED THEY FOUND THE STORE CLERK HIDING.
07:05:15 THEY TOOK HIM INTO CUSTODY.
07:05:17 THEY RECOVERED THE SAME FIREARM.
07:05:18 THEY FOUND SHELL CASINGS ON THE STORE.
07:05:22 AND JUST FROM MY HISTORY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND KNOWING
07:05:26 POLICE THAT WORK IN THAT AREA, THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING ME
07:05:28 THAT THIS STORE HAS BEEN A THORN IN THEIR SIDE, A CONSTANT
07:05:32 PROBLEM FOR THEM AND A NUISANCE WITH MULTIPLE CALLS FOR
07:05:35 SERVICE, AND THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED FOR THE PAST YEAR OR
07:05:38 TWO THAT THIS STORE HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.
07:05:42 DID F YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER.
07:05:44 >>ORLANDO GUDES:
07:05:51 >> YES, SIR, THE OFFICERS DID ARREST HIM ON SCENE.
07:06:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
07:06:09 THANK YOU, OFFICER.
07:06:10 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
07:06:12 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: COUNCIL, THERE ARE A FEW PHOTOGRAPHS
07:06:15 FROM THAT EVENING IN THE PowerPoint PRESENTATION INCLUDING
07:06:18 THE FIREARM THAT WAS LOCATED.
07:06:23 AGAIN YOU WILL SEE SHELL CASINGS IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS.
07:06:28 THIS IS WHERE THE FIREARM WAS LOCATED IN THE STORE.
07:06:36 NOW THE NEXT WITNESS TO TESTIFY IS GOING TO BE A MARRY
07:06:41 ELMORE.
07:06:41 HE'S GOING TO GIVE INFORMATION REGARDING THE NOTICE THAT HE
07:06:44 PROVIDED BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY PROVIDED THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT
07:06:47 BOARD NOTICE BACK IN FEBRUARY.
07:06:51 HE'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND HE HAS BEEN SWORN.
07:06:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED.
07:06:57 >> AMARI ELMORE, TAMPA POLICE.
07:07:01 I WORK IN THE CRIMINAL INTELLIGENCE BUREAU PART OF THE TAMPA
07:07:04 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
07:07:05 I HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH HANDLING THE PUBLIC NUISANCE
07:07:08 ABATEMENT REQUEST.
07:07:10 SO YOU EXPLAINED THE PROCESS EARLIER IN THE DAY AS FAR AS
07:07:14 REFERRAL, AND HOW IT COMES TO ME.
07:07:17 SO DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS, WHO SPOKE EARLIER, HAD
07:07:22 ACTUALLY SEVERAL TIMES TRIED TO I GUESS REQUEST THAT THEY BE
07:07:28 PUT ON NOTICE FOR THE ABATEMENT.
07:07:31 SO WHEN THEY FINALLY MET THE CRITERIA, A LETTER WAS DRAFTED
07:07:37 AND HE WAS ACTUALLY GIVEN A HARD COPY TO HAND DELIVER.
07:07:41 ON TOP OF THAT IT WAS A CERTIFIED LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO
07:07:44 THE PROPERTY OWNER AND BUSINESS OWNERS, AND THAT WAS DONE I
07:07:49 BELIEVE THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 17, WANT TO DO.
07:07:56 I HADN'T HEARD ANYONE AT THE BUSINESS EXCEPT FOR MR.
07:08:01 SEQINTAS ON FEBRUARY 23rd, 21.
07:08:06 HE STATED HE WAS THE SON OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, SON-IN-LAW
07:08:09 OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
07:08:10 SHE'S OLDER, UP IN AGE, AND THE DAUGHTER HAS THE POWER OF
07:08:13 ATTORNEY.
07:08:14 WE HAD A CONVERSATION THAT REALLY DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
07:08:17 I DIDN'T FEEL -- HE DIDN'T FEEL THAT I GUESS THE BUSINESS
07:08:20 COULD DO MUCH TO CURB THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY.
07:08:25 SO AFTER THAT CONVERSATION WENT TO A DEAD-END, HE WAS JUST
07:08:28 TOLD IF HE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, OR PROBLEMS, HE
07:08:31 COULD CONTACT DETECTIVE WILLIAMS.
07:08:34 THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE END OF MY DEALINGS WITH HIM.
07:08:40 WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE CRIMINAL ASPECT OF IT.
07:08:44 AND ANOTHER THING CASES THAT OCCURRED ON THE PROPERTY, BUT
07:08:46 WE KIND OF LET -- THEY WERE KIND OF HEAVY WITH THE CODE
07:08:50 ENFORCEMENT PART OF IT WE KIND OF LET THAT RUN ITS COURSE
07:08:54 WHILE WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR.
07:08:55 ANY QUESTIONS?
07:08:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN?
07:09:00 I'M HOPING YOU COULD GET NUISANCE ABATEMENT, FROM WHAT I AM
07:09:04 HEARING.
07:09:06 >> IT'S CONSTANTLY BEING MONITORED AND THAT GOES FOR ALL THE
07:09:09 BUSINESSES THAT I SENT LETTERS TO.
07:09:11 EARLIER TODAY YOU HEARD SINCE I CAME ON, 20 IS IT IN THIS
07:09:15 POSITION, WE HAVE HAD 48 CASES COME BEFORE US, AND SENT
07:09:21 ABOUT 30 SOME ODD LETTERS.
07:09:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
07:09:26 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: NEXT ON THE PowerPoint SLIDE, WE
07:09:37 WERE ABLE TO FIND LOCAL SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM ON INSTAGRAM,
07:09:41 VIDEO DATED JULY 31st, 2021, AND I WANT TO DIRECT YOU TO
07:09:47 A SHORT CLIP.
07:09:48 I WOULD DIRECT YOU TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.
07:09:51 THAT IS YBOR GROCERY.
07:09:53 YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE OF WHAT THIS INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCED
07:09:56 ON JULY 31st, 2021.
07:10:08 (VIDEO PLAYS).
07:10:23 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: COUNCIL, HERE IS THE STILL SHOT CLOSER
07:10:29 UP OF YBOR GROCERY.
07:10:31 THAT'S THE NEXT PHOTOGRAPH.
07:10:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA TPD GETTING FOOTAGE
07:10:42 OF JUST THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY?
07:10:48 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: NOT AT THIS TIME.
07:10:50 AND THE NEXT PERSON TO TESTIFY WE ARE ACTUALLY CALLING BACK
07:10:53 DETECTIVE WILLIAMS.
07:10:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HAVE THERE BEEN COMPLAINTS OF THIS TYPE
07:10:57 PRIOR?
07:10:58 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: YES, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL
07:11:00 COMPLAINTS.
07:11:00 >>SIMONE SAVINO: AT THIS TIME WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO CALL
07:11:05 BACK DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS.
07:11:08 >> DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS.
07:11:15 >>SIMONE SAVINO: HE'S GOING TO PRESENT ON THE FOLLOWING
07:11:17 PHOTOS THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO SLIDE THROUGH.
07:11:19 THESE WERE TAKEN, I BELIEVE, BY DETECTIVE WILLIAMS AT
07:11:23 VARIOUS POINTS IN TIME AS HE CONTINUED TO MONITOR THE
07:11:26 PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF TPD.
07:11:28 SO LET ME SCROLL THE FIRST ONE.
07:11:31 CURTIS, CAN YOU SEE THAT ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU?
07:11:34 >> YES.
07:11:35 >>SIMONE SAVINO: I WILL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN.
07:11:36 >> GENERAL PICTURE ANY TIME OF DAY OF THE STORE.
07:11:39 >>SIMONE SAVINO: AND THE DATE?
07:11:45 >> FEBRUARY 17th.
07:11:47 THAT WAS THE DAY THAT I SERVED MR. SOBH NOTICE.
07:11:55 AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER DRIVING BY THE STORE.
07:11:58 HE HAD PEOPLE SITTING IN FRONT OF THE STORE HANGING OUT IN
07:12:01 FRONT OF THE STORE, COMMON ANYTIME OF DAY.
07:12:05 LIKE I SAID BEFORE, EARLY AS 7:30 HE WILL HAVE CROWDS SEATED
07:12:11 AROUND THE SIDE WALL THERE THAT'S OFF TO THE RIGHT.
07:12:14 >> WHAT'S THE DATE ON THIS PHOTO?
07:12:17 >> THIS IS MARCH 3rd, 2021.
07:12:20 JUNE 17th, 2021.
07:12:26 SMALLER CROWD, BUT THAT'S THE NORMAL LOCATION WHERE THEY
07:12:30 TEND TO HANG OUT.
07:12:38 JUNE 22ND, PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE BUSINESS, HANGING OUT
07:12:42 OF CARS.
07:12:43 >>SIMONE SAVINO: WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IS THIS JUST SO YOU
07:12:48 CAN ORIENT CITY COUNCIL?
07:12:53 >> TRYING TO LOOK AT THE ANGLE MYSELF.
07:13:00 I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
07:13:05 >>SIMONE SAVINO: IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 26th STREET?
07:13:08 >> YES, IT LOOKS LIKE THE DOOR IS GOING TO BE JUST BEHIND
07:13:11 THE GENTLEMAN IN THE RED SHIRT.
07:13:21 JULY 27, JUST AROUND THE EDGE OF THE WALL, THE BUILDING
07:13:27 WHERE PEOPLE HANG OUT.
07:13:28 THEY ACTUALLY WALKED OFF BECAUSE I PULLED UP.
07:13:31 >>SIMONE SAVINO: CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT THOSE CHAIRS
07:13:33 AND WHY THEY WERE THERE?
07:13:35 >> THE SUBJECTS WERE ACTUALLY SEATED IN THEM WHEN I FIRST
07:13:37 PULLED UP, AND THEY WALKED OFF AND LEFT THE CHAIRS BEHIND.
07:13:40 BUT THIS IS COMMONLY WHERE THEY HANG OUT, AND THIS IS MR.
07:13:46 SOMEBODY'S PART OF THE BUSINESS HERE.
07:13:47 MR. SOBH, I BELIEVE, AT THE LAST MEETING EXPLAINED HE PUT
07:13:52 THAT LITTLE CHAIN LINK FENCE UP THAT YOU SEE THERE AND I AM
07:13:55 REALLY NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO SIGNIFY.
07:13:58 IT ONLY CLARIFIED THAT WHICH PART OF THE BUSINESS WAS HIS,
07:14:01 AND WHICH PART WASN'T.
07:14:03 >>SIMONE SAVINO: CURTIS, JUST SO COUNCIL CAN GET A CLEAR
07:14:08 PICTURE AS WELL, CAN YOU EXPLAIN ANY OTHER EFFORTS THAT YOU
07:14:11 HAVE ATTEMPTED TO TRY TO GET THE PROPERTY OWNER TO COMPLY?
07:14:17 >> DURING A MEETING WE DISCUSSED NUMEROUS MEASURES AS FAR AS
07:14:21 EXTERIOR, CAMERAS COVERING THE ENTIRE BUSINESS, PROPER
07:14:25 MOTION CENSORED LIGHTING, HOURS, CALLING THE POLICE WHEN
07:14:37 THEY START TO HAVE GATHERINGS.
07:14:40 >>SIMONE SAVINO: ABOUT WHEN DID YOU GUYS HAVE THAT
07:14:42 CONVERSATION?
07:14:42 >> WELL, WE HAD IT ON TWO OCCASIONS.
07:14:44 WE HAD IT ON FEBRUARY 17th, 2021 WHEN I SERVED HIM THE
07:14:48 PAPERS AND AGAIN WHEN I SERVED HIM THE NOTICE FOR THIS
07:14:51 HEARING.
07:14:52 >>SIMONE SAVINO: AND HAVE YOU NOTICED ANY CHANGES SINCE
07:14:55 THOSE CONVERSATIONS?
07:14:56 >> NO.
07:14:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
07:15:04 I RECALL EARLIER TESTIMONY THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT, MR.
07:15:10 WILLIAMS, AND ATF WENT TO THE STORE.
07:15:13 >> ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO.
07:15:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I'M CURIOUS.
07:15:20 HAS THERE BEEN ANYTHING OF THE UNDERAGE PATRONS AROUND THAT
07:15:26 STORE, OR DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH ALCOHOL THERE WAS BEING SOLD
07:15:31 IN THAT STORE?
07:15:32 >> ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS AT THE TIME DUE TO THE PANDEMIC IT
07:15:35 WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ALCOHOL TOBACCO TO EVEN COME OUT.
07:15:40 AGENT CAPLINGER RESPONDED AND ASSISTED THAT DAY, AND THE
07:15:47 STORE WAS GIVEN A WARNING FOR WHAT APPEARED THAT THEY WERE
07:15:52 SELLING LUCY CIGARETTES BEHIND THE COUNTER, AND THERE WAS
07:15:58 ALSO STYROFOAM CUPS KEPT WHICH MADE IT APPEAR THAT THEY MAY
07:16:02 BE GIVING THOSE OUT WHEN THEY SELL ALCOHOL, WHICH HISTORY
07:16:05 HAS SHOWN THAT TO BE TRUE.
07:16:08 THAT'S ALSO A VIOLATION.
07:16:08 SO THEY WERE GIVEN TWO WARNINGS FOR THOSE THINGS ON THAT
07:16:11 DAY.
07:16:12 HOWEVER, ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO HAS BEEN LARGELY FOCUSED ON
07:16:16 OTHER THINGS DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.
07:16:17 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
07:16:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OFFICER, I OFTEN WANT TO ASK THE SAME
07:16:27 QUESTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR OPINION.
07:16:31 IF THIS COUNCIL WERE TO SAY NO MORE ALCOHOL WILL BE SOLD AT
07:16:35 THE YBOR CITY GROCERY STORE, WOULD THAT SOLVE THE PROBLEM?
07:16:40 OR IS THERE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT IS JUST APPEARING ON THE
07:16:44 SURFACE THAN JUST ALCOHOL SALES?
07:16:47 >> WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS NOTHING HAS HELPED AT THIS POINT.
07:16:53 SO TO ME THIS WOULD APPEAR TO BE THE NEXT STEP.
07:16:59 DISCUSSION, DIALOGUE HAS NOT WORKED.
07:17:01 PROACTIVITY ON BOTH CODE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT'S PART HAS NOT
07:17:05 BEEN ABLE TO CEASE IT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF COOPERATION OF
07:17:11 THE BUSINESS OWNER OR ANY AGGRESSIVE MOVE BY HIS PART TO
07:17:15 DEAL IN GOOD BUSINESS.
07:17:17 AS FAR AS OTHER ALTERNATIVES, I THINK THIS IS THE NEXT STEP.
07:17:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OFFICER, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY, BUT
07:17:27 I HAD THE FEELING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE
07:17:30 THAN THIS.
07:17:30 AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY.
07:17:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE GOING TO ASK ABOUT
07:17:37 SALES.
07:17:38 BECAUSE THAT WILL TELL WHAT YOU THAT STORE IS REALLY DOING
07:17:42 AS FAR AS HOW MUCH ALCOHOL THEY SELL IN THAT STORE, AND AT
07:17:54 7 A.M., I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH MEDICINE AT 7 A.M.
07:17:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE HAVING TO DEAL WITH
07:18:04 THIS.
07:18:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU ALL.
07:18:10 >>SIMONE SAVINO: DETECTIVE WILLIAMS, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE IN
07:18:13 YBOR GROCERY OPERATING AS IT HAS, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT
07:18:17 DRINKING GOES ON, ON-SITE, WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AROUND THE
07:18:20 ESTABLISHMENT?
07:18:21 >> IT IS.
07:18:26 >>SIMONE SAVINO: ABOUT HOW FREQUENTLY WOULD YOU SAY THAT
07:18:28 OCCURS?
07:18:29 >> I WOULD SAY IT'S A DAILY OCCURRENCE.
07:18:32 >>SIMONE SAVINO: THANK YOU.
07:18:44 DETECTIVE WILLIAMS?
07:18:47 SORRY.
07:18:47 YOU MIGHT HAVE WALKED AWAY.
07:18:49 CAN YOU JUST WALK RIGHT BACK?
07:18:51 WE HAVE THESE LAST REMAINING PHOTOS WE WANT TO PRESENT TO
07:18:54 COUNCIL AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THEM
07:18:57 FOR COUNCIL.
07:19:01 PLEASE GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS AND WHEN YOU TOOK
07:19:04 IT.
07:19:04 >> THAT WILL BE YESTERDAY MORNING AROUND 10:00.
07:19:10 I COMMONLY DRIVE BY, AND JUST OUT OF MERE DISCUSSION, WHAT
07:19:16 YOU THINK IT LOOKS LIKE NOW, I WAS ASKED, DID A ROLL BY, AND
07:19:20 WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS SEVERAL SUBJECTS IN THE PARKING LOT --
07:19:25 [NO ENCODER] [NO ENCODER]
07:19:39 THE NEXT SLIDE.
07:19:50 SO THE ONE GENTLEMAN IN WHITE STILL OUT FRONT HANGING IN THE
07:19:54 PARKING LOT.
07:19:55 YOU CAN SEE BETTER ONE OF THE SUBJECTS THAT'S PROPPED UP
07:19:59 BEHIND THE VEHICLE THERE TO THE RIGHT.
07:20:03 SO THIS IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE.
07:20:05 PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN FRONT OF THE STORE.
07:20:07 >>SIMONE SAVINO: WHEN TPD HAS A PRESENCE IS IT SAFE TO SAY
07:20:12 THEY WILL WALK AWAY BUT THEN RETURN?
07:20:15 >> SURE.
07:20:15 SURE.
07:20:17 THEY HAVE IN MY EXPERIENCE.
07:20:20 YOU KNOW, DURING THE DAY, WHEN I'M THERE, I COULDN'T ATTEST
07:20:24 TO WHAT GOES ON NIGHTS.
07:20:25 I KNOW THAT THE CROWDS ARE TYPICALLY LARGER FROM WHAT I HEAR
07:20:29 IN THE EVENINGS.
07:20:30 SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN.
07:20:32 >>SIMONE SAVINO: THANK YOU.
07:20:35 I BELIEVE WE ARE GOOD WITH YOU RIGHT NOW, DETECTIVE.
07:20:38 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
07:20:40 AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PRESENT AND WE
07:20:44 WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
07:20:47 THEY ARE LINED UP DOWNSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
07:20:50 I BELIEVE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME AVAILABLE AS WELL CALLING INTO
07:20:53 THE MEETING THIS EVENING.
07:20:55 AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO
07:20:58 SOME OF THE CITIZENS WHO WROTE LETTERS OR COMMENTS TO YOU
07:21:03 THAT HAVE BEEN PRINTED AND PLACED IN YOUR BINDERS.
07:21:06 SO I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE LETTERS.
07:21:08 AND THEN THAT WILL BE FOR YOU TO REVIEW IN ADDITION TO WHAT
07:21:12 YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
07:21:14 SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO
07:21:16 WHOEVER HAS BECOME PRESENT TO SPEAK WITH COUNCIL.
07:21:22 WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS, AND JUST VERIFY IF YOU HAVE
07:21:24 BEEN SWORN FIRST, PLEASE.
07:21:26 >> YES, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:21:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
07:21:30 >> I'M MIDA MARTINEZ, ALSO KNOWN AS MI IN THE COMMUNITY, AND
07:21:35 I AM HERE AS A BOARD MEMBER OF YBOR HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
07:21:38 ASSOCIATION AND COORDINATOR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH GROUP.
07:21:41 I LIVE AT 3507 NORTH TENTH STREET.
07:21:44 I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENTS
07:21:48 CONCERNED MUCH THIS VICIOUS CYCLE OF BLIGHT AND SLUM AND HOW
07:21:52 THE EAST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE BANDED
07:21:55 TOGETHER TO BREAK THE CYCLE.
07:21:56 WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT IS TIME OUR EAST TAMPA BUSINESS
07:22:00 OWNERS JOIN OUR EFFORTS.
07:22:02 YBOR GROCERY STORE HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF ANGST FOR THE ENTIRE
07:22:06 SURROUNDING COMMUNITY FOR TOO LONG.
07:22:09 NOW, I WANT TO BE FAIR AND STATE I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE
07:22:12 ANYONE'S LIVELIHOOD AWAY FROM THEM.
07:22:15 HOWEVER, IT IS NO SECRET AS YOU HEARD THIS EVENING, THIS
07:22:18 ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN A PASSIVE IN CITY GAIT OR FOR
07:22:23 ALLOWING LOUD MUSIC, PARKING AND LARGE GATHERINGS THAT LED
07:22:28 TO GUN VIOLENCE.
07:22:29 THIS ATMOSPHERE IS INTENSIFIED BY ZERO PARKING SIGNS TO
07:22:32 CONTROL CAR CROWDING.
07:22:35 ON TOP OF THAT, THE POLICE CANNOT ENFORCE TRESPASSING OR
07:22:38 ISSUE PARKING TICKETS BECAUSE THE STORE OWNER IS
07:22:42 INDIFFERENT.
07:22:43 AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS TO POST ON THIS
07:22:47 PROPERTY ON A REGULAR BASIS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
07:22:51 WHAT I AM ASKING TODAY IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT EAST
07:22:54 TAMPA AND SUSPEND ALCOHOL SALES ON THIS PROPERTY AS A WAY TO
07:22:59 HOLD THE STORE OWNER ACCOUNTABLE FOR SUPPRESSING EAST TAMPA
07:23:03 FROM PROSPERING.
07:23:04 I ASK THE STORE OWNER, PLEASE STOP TURNING A BLIND EYE.
07:23:08 WHAT YOU SEE OUTSIDE YOUR PROPERTY DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF
07:23:12 EAST TAMPA.
07:23:13 MOST PEOPLE HERE JUST WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE, RAISE THEIR
07:23:17 KIDS IN A SAFE PLACE, OWN A HOME, AND ENJOY THEIR COMMUNITY
07:23:20 WITHOUT DRAMA.
07:23:23 WE TODAY REPRESENT THAT HUMBLE HARD WORKING PART OF EAST
07:23:27 TAMPA.
07:23:28 I INVITE YOU THE STORE OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO ATTEND
07:23:32 ONE OF THE MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, OR CAC
07:23:36 MEETINGS, OR CONSIDER GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BY
07:23:41 HOSTING A HOLIDAY MEAL OR JOIN US IN OUR PEACE WALKS SO YOU
07:23:45 CAN SEE WHAT EAST TAMPA IS DOING.
07:23:48 MY POINT IS, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
07:23:51 EAST TAMPA IS STANDING UP FOR ITSELF AND ASKING FOR
07:23:54 EVERYONE'S SUPPORT.
07:23:56 RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, THE POLICE, CITY COUNCIL, LOCAL
07:24:01 POLITICIANS, AND EVERY TAMPA CITY DEPARTMENT.
07:24:04 I WANT TO THANK SIMONE, KENDRICK AND DETECTIVE WILLIAMS FOR
07:24:09 STANDING UP AGAINST BLIGHT AND SLUM.
07:24:14 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:24:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
07:25:05 >> HEY, COUNCIL.
07:25:06 I'M KRISTOPHER GALLAGHER AND I WAS RECENTLY SWORN IN JUST
07:25:10 BEFORE THIS MEETING.
07:25:12 EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SEEN PRESENTED TO YOU IS PRETTY ACCURATE
07:25:15 FROM A CITIZENS POINT OF VIEW.
07:25:16 I OFTEN HAVE TO DRIVE NORTH ON 15th STREET OR WEST ON
07:25:22 26th AVE. USUALLY ON FRIDAYS OR SATURDAY NATURES JUST TO
07:25:27 KIND OF GET HOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S PRETTY
07:25:30 AGGRESSIVE.
07:25:30 INC. TOLL YOU AS OF RECENTLY, ACTIVITIES HAVE GOTTEN MUCH
07:25:34 MORE AGGRESSIVE.
07:25:36 IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO FIND PARKED CARS AND LOITERING PEOPLE,
07:25:40 NOT JUST ON THE YBOR GROCERY PROPERTY BUT ON THE SURROUNDING
07:25:43 CORNERS AND THE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS.
07:25:44 THE STREET IS DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE CARS ESPECIALLY IN THE
07:25:48 EVENING HOURS.
07:25:48 SOME OF THOSE SIDE ROADS AREN'T LIT AS WELL AS 15th IS,
07:25:53 SO IT'S DANGEROUS JUST TO DRIVE THROUGH AT NIGHT.
07:25:58 OF THOSE PARKED CARS THERE'S OFTEN LOUD MUSIC THAT'S
07:26:02 DISRUPTIVE AND DISRESPECTFUL TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
07:26:05 TO BE HONEST I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE HOUSES
07:26:07 THAT ARE NEXT TO OR NEARBY THE YBOR GROCERY PROPERTY.
07:26:12 AND THE YBOR PROPERTY, OR THE YBOR GROCERY PROPERTY AND THE
07:26:17 SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE OFTEN LEFT IN DISARRAY, AND TO
07:26:20 CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED A LITTLE EARLIER, IT'S
07:26:23 NOT NECESSARILY COFFEE CUPS AND MUST HAVE IN WRAPPERS, IT'S
07:26:27 BROKEN BEER BOTTLES, BEER CANS, TONS OF CIGARETTES, FOOD
07:26:31 TRASH, JUST LEFT ON THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING
07:26:37 RESIDENTS.
07:26:38 AS OF RECENTLY NIGHTTIME ACTIVITY HAS BECOME A LOT MORE
07:26:41 AGGRESSIVE.
07:26:43 FROM MY PERSONAL OPINION, THERE ARE MANY MORE PARKED CARS.
07:26:48 THERE'S MORE LOITERING INDIVIDUALS, MORE LOITERING GROUPS.
07:26:51 IF I HAD TO GIVE IT A GUESS, AT LEAST 100 PEOPLE ON AN
07:26:54 FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT.
07:26:56 AND THERE'S MORE ACTIVITIES, MORE ENGINE REVS, A LOT MORE
07:27:04 YELLING AND LOUDER MUSIC THAN I REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
07:27:07 AS YOU HEARD THERE'S ALREADY A HISTORY OF GUN VIOLENCE HERE
07:27:10 THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE INTIMIDATING AS WELL.
07:27:13 AND I KIND OF GAVE YOU GUYS SOME EXHIBITS THAT SHOULD HAVE
07:27:15 BEEN PASSED AROUND.
07:27:17 JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT I SAW LAST FRIDAY EVENING.
07:27:21 I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T NUMBER THEM.
07:27:23 SO I WILL DESCRIBE THEM AS BEST I CAN.
07:27:25 THE FIRST IMAGE IS A PICTURE OF A BUS WHICH APPEARS TO BE A
07:27:28 PARTY BUS, AND I WATCHED ABOUT AT LEAST TEN YOUNG LADIES
07:27:33 COME OUT OF THIS BUS AND WALK OVER TO THE YBOR CITY -- OR
07:27:36 THE YBOR GROCERY PROPERTY.
07:27:38 [BELL SOUNDS]
07:27:39 I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE SAME PARTY BUS WITH SOME OF
07:27:42 THOSE LADIES GETTING OUT OF IT.
07:27:44 SO IT'S CLEARLY BECOMING AN ACTIVE SPOT IF WE ARE GOING TO
07:27:47 HAVE BUSES DROP PEOPLE OFF TO HANG OUT.
07:27:50 AND THEN THE MOST CONCERNING THING I SAW, THIS WAS LAST
07:27:54 FRIDAY, AT ABOUT 11:00 AT NIGHT.
07:27:57 AND THEN A FEW HOURS LATER, I DROVE BY JUST TO KIND OF SEE
07:28:03 WHAT WAS GOING ON.
07:28:07 OH, YES, THANK YOU.
07:28:08 [BELL SOUNDS]
07:28:11 AND THERE WAS SIX POLICE OFFICERS, SIX TPD OFFICERS THAT HAD
07:28:16 TO DISBURSE THE LARGE CROWD THAT HAD GATHERED THERE.
07:28:21 AND TO BE ME, THIS IMAGE IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE.
07:28:24 I APOLOGIZE.
07:28:25 BUT I COUNTED AT LEAST SIX OFFICERS THAT WERE HERE.
07:28:28 SIX OFFICERS THAT WERE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD CONCENTRATED IN
07:28:31 FRONT OF ONE CONVENIENCE STORE.
07:28:34 THAT'S HOGGING RESOURCES FOR MY ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:28:39 AND SO LASTLY, IT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT UP ABOUT AN ABATEMENT.
07:28:45 IF COUNCIL OR IF PROSECUTION WANTS TO PROCEED WITH ABATEMENT
07:28:51 YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE FIRST
07:28:53 STEP WOULD BE TO SUSPEND ALCOHOL SALES, BUT IT'S CLEARLY A
07:28:57 MUCH LARGER PROBLEM.
07:28:58 THANK YOU.
07:28:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:29:27 >> GOOD EVENING.
07:29:28 CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
07:29:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
07:29:31 >> MY NAME IS IVAN RIVERA AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:29:35 I AM HERE SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT OF VM YBOR.
07:29:37 THIS BUSINESS IS IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF VM YBOR.
07:29:43 ALTHOUGH I AM SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT I WANT THE COUNCIL TO
07:29:45 KNOW THAT I HAVE SERVED, AM SERVING AS THE CHAIR OF THE VM
07:29:51 YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
07:29:52 I MENTION THIS BECAUSE I HAVE LEARNED THROUGH SPEAKING TO MY
07:29:55 NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN PROXIMITY TO THIS LOCATION, MANY OF
07:30:01 THEM HAVE BEEN AFRAID TO BE PRESENT HERE TONIGHT DUE TO
07:30:04 POSSIBLE RETALIATION AND SPEAKING UP AGAINST THIS BUSINESS.
07:30:09 PERSONALLY, I AM AFRAID TO BE HERE SPEAKING TONIGHT SINCE I
07:30:12 AM IN SUCH A PUBLIC EYE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
07:30:15 I WANT THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT THERE IS LITERALLY A
07:30:19 LIQUOR STORE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS
07:30:22 CONVENIENCE STORE.
07:30:24 WHY DOES THERE NEED TO BE TWO BUSINESSES PROVIDING ALCOHOL?
07:30:28 I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER THE SUSPENSION
07:30:32 OF THE ALCOHOL USE IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT I WANT
07:30:35 YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THIS MOVE ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE TO OTHER
07:30:39 BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS.
07:30:43 SO TO ME, THE BIGGER IMPACTED PRECEDENCE THAT WE SEND TO
07:30:48 OTHER BUSINESSES IN EAST TAMPA, I WANT THE COUNCIL TO
07:30:53 CONSIDER THAT THE NEGLIGENCE OF THESE BUSINESS OWNERS
07:30:56 STRETCHES OUT BEYOND THE SALE OF JUST ALCOHOL, BECAUSE IT IS
07:30:59 THEIR PATRONS THAT ARE ZOOMING DOWN OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
07:31:03 I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT THE ATVs AND THE
07:31:07 DIRT BIKES.
07:31:09 THIS BUSINESS IS KIND OF A HUB FOR THAT BEHAVIOR.
07:31:14 AND AFTER SEEING THIS CASE, THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT,
07:31:18 I REALLY WANT TO URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ANY OTHER
07:31:21 MEASURES UNDER THEIR POWER TO PUT A STOP TO THIS BUSINESS.
07:31:26 I PERSONALLY BELIEVE ONLY GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION IS GOING
07:31:29 TO HELP PUT AN END TO THIS DANGEROUS CORNER.
07:31:31 I THINK IT'S TIME TO HOLD OUR EAST TAMPA BUSINESSES
07:31:37 ACCOUNTABLE AND PROTECT NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS AND THE
07:31:40 COMMUNITY BUT ALSO PROTECT THE OFFICERS THAT SERVE AND
07:31:42 PROTECT THESE COMMUNITIES.
07:31:44 WHICH I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
07:31:46 SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
07:31:49 IT'S AN HONOR TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU.
07:31:53 HAVE A NICE EVENING.
07:31:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
07:31:56 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
07:32:24 I AM FRAN TATE AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:32:29 THE TWO OTHER BODIES BEHIND ME ARE MEMBERS OF MY BOARD, AND
07:32:35 THEY ARE JUST STANDING HERE FOR MORAL SUPPORT.
07:32:39 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US THIS
07:32:42 EVENING.
07:32:44 I AM A TAMPA HOMEOWNER AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE JACKSON
07:32:47 HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND CRIME WATCH.
07:32:52 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, THE ATTORNEY, AND THE TAMPA
07:32:56 POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THIS VERY LONG-AWAITED DAY.
07:33:02 A DAY IN WHICH WE THE COMMUNITY WILL BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO GO
07:33:07 ON RECORD TO STATE THAT THE LOITERING, ILLEGAL DRUGS, DRUG
07:33:17 TRANSACTIONS, SHOOTING AND STABBING RESULTING IN THE LOSS OF
07:33:21 NUMEROUS LIVES IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE NOR TOLERATED IN OUR
07:33:26 COMMUNITY.
07:33:29 THESE ACTIVITIES HAVE CAUSED AND CONTINUE TO CAUSE UNTOLD
07:33:34 MENTAL STRESS, ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, AND FEAR OF PUBLIC
07:33:40 SAFETY FOR ALL OF US.
07:33:45 WITH ONLY ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR, AND THAT'S OUR LOCAL
07:33:51 COMMUNITY CORNER STORES, SOME OF THEM, I MIGHT ADD.
07:33:56 WE FEEL THAT STRONG ACTION MUST BE TAKEN.
07:34:01 I HAVE BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION TO READ THIS STATEMENT
07:34:03 SUBMITTED BY EAST TAMPA HOMEOWNER WHO IS ALSO MY NEIGHBOR
07:34:09 AND A MEMBER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
07:34:12 HER NAME IS GINA FRENCHY AND SHE WRITES: TO WHOM IT MAY
07:34:19 CONCERN: AS A CONCERNED NEIGHBOR OF THE YBOR GROCERY STORE
07:34:24 LOCATED AT 3401 NORTH 15th STREET, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING
07:34:28 TO YOUR ATTENTION THE ISSUE OF BLOCKED TRAFFIC, OUTSIDE
07:34:34 LOITERING AT THIS ESTABLISHMENT.
07:34:37 FROM MARCH TO MID JULY, I HAVE EXPERIENCED DRIVING THROUGH
07:34:42 MAZE WHILE APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION OF 15th STREET
07:34:45 AND 26th AVENUE.
07:34:48 MOST OF THE TIME THERE IS ABOUT FIVE CARS BLOCKING BOTH
07:34:52 SIDES OF THE STREET, AND ASSEMBLED IT THIS MIDDLE OF THE
07:34:57 ROAD OR AGAINST THE STORE DWELLING WITH NO ACTION OF MOVING.
07:35:01 I WAS ONCE STARED DOWN FOR DRIVING BETWEEN CARS AS I WAS --
07:35:08 AS IF I WAS DOING SOMETHING WRONG, WHILE AN ILLEGAL
07:35:12 TRANSACTION WAS BEING MADE.
07:35:13 I FELT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT CONSEQUENCES
07:35:19 WILL BE TAKEN IF I CONTINUE TO TAKE THIS ROUTE.
07:35:22 THEREFORE, I DECIDED TO CHANGE MY ROUTE TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
07:35:27 I AM A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF NEIGHBORING JACKSON HEIGHTS
07:35:30 COMMUNITY AND IT SADDENS ME THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE
07:35:35 SURROUNDING AREA HAVE TO ATTAR THEIR DAY TO DAY COMMUTE TO
07:35:38 ACCOMMODATE THE NONDESIRABLE ACTIVITY OF LOITERING,
07:35:42 GAMBLING, AND DRUGS THAT CURSE AT THE YBOR GROCERY STORE.
07:35:47 I WOULD LOVE TO EXPERIENCE THE SAME FEELING OF SAFETY THAT
07:35:51 TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AND OTHER SMALLER
07:35:55 COMMUNITIES IN TAMPA HAVE WHEN DRIVING OR WALKING TO THEIR
07:35:59 CORNER STORES TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC GROWTH WITHIN THEIR
07:36:03 NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:36:05 REGARDS, GINA PRAISER, JACKSON HEIGHTS RESIDENTS AND
07:36:10 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBER.
07:36:11 THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
07:36:12 >>SIMONE SAVINO: I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE COMMENTER WHO IS ON
07:36:19 THE LINE RIGHT NOW.
07:36:22 >>THE CLERK: I HAVE MYRA PIERCE.
07:36:30 PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:36:31 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
07:36:32 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
07:36:43 UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:36:44 >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME.
07:36:49 THE FIRST 30 MINUTES I WAS HAVING TECHNOLOGICAL PROBLEMS AS
07:36:54 IS MY TRADITION, SO I APPRECIATE IT BUT I HAVE BEEN
07:36:56 LISTENING TO EVERYTHING AND WHATNOT.
07:36:59 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:36:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:37:03 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
07:37:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS SOMEONE ON THE LINE?
07:37:11 >> HI.
07:37:12 CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY, COUNCIL?
07:37:13 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN.
07:37:14 >> OKAY.
07:37:15 MY NAME IS MYRA PIERCE.
07:37:16 I AM FROM THE YBOR HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
07:37:20 I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT.
07:37:22 I APOLOGIZE THAT I COULDN'T BE HERE IN PERSON TONIGHT, BUT
07:37:29 MIMI MARTINEZ AND KRIS GALLAGHER ARE PART OF MY BOARD.
07:37:33 SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PERSONAL THINGS.
07:37:34 I THINK I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE
07:37:36 MENTIONED THIS EVENING.
07:37:38 AND THANK YOU OFFICER CURTIS FOR BEING A STRONG ADVOCATE OF
07:37:41 THE EAST TAMPA.
07:37:44 BUT I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT GENERATIONAL TRAUMA.
07:37:47 I GREW UP CLOSER TO SULPHUR SPRINGS, AND WHEN I WAS 13 I
07:37:56 WAS -- SET ON FIRE.
07:37:59 LUCKILY MY EXPERIENCE WAS NOT LIFE THREATENING BUT THIS IS
07:38:02 GENERATIONAL TRAUMA.
07:38:04 THIS IS WHAT CHILDREN SURROUNDING YBOR GROCERY ARE
07:38:08 EXPERIENCING EVERY DAY THAT GO TO ORANGE GROVE MAGNET
07:38:11 SCHOOL.
07:38:14 IT SPANS THREE NEIGHBORHOODS.
07:38:16 AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION HERE THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE
07:38:20 SMALL BUSINESSES, IN EAST TAMPA.
07:38:26 THEY ARE CRUCIAL TO OUR LIVELIHOOD, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT
07:38:30 THERE ARE FAMILIES THAT ARE INVOLVED, BUT THERE'S ALSO
07:38:33 BUSINESSES IN EAST TAMPA THAT PREY ON GENERATIONAL TRAUMA.
07:38:39 DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSE, DRUG SALE, VIOLENCE, SEX WORK,
07:38:43 HOMELESSNESS, THOSE NOT THE CAUSE, THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF
07:38:50 TRAUMA.
07:38:51 AND IF YOU WANT TO RELATE ALCOHOL SALES TO WHAT'S GOING ON
07:38:55 IN EAST TAMPA, THAT'S HOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
07:39:00 THESE PLACES CREATE A SAFE HAVEN AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO --
07:39:06 THAT NUMB THIS TRAUMA.
07:39:07 BUSINESSES LIKE YBOR GROCERY, THEY SELL ALCOHOL, CHEAP
07:39:10 CIGARETTES, CHEAP FOOD, AND YOU HAVE THE CHOICE TONIGHT TO
07:39:18 JOIN US AS A COMMUNITY IN MENDING A SECTION OF A SOCIAL
07:39:23 SAFETY NET.
07:39:27 MORE THAN SUSPENDING AN ALCOHOL LICENSE.
07:39:29 THIS IS ABOUT HELPING A NEIGHBORHOOD HEAL FROM THAT
07:39:32 GENERATIONAL TRAUMA.
07:39:35 THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO CHILDREN ALL ACROSS EAST TAMPA,
07:39:38 NOT JUST AT THE CORNER OF 15th AND 26th STREET.
07:39:43 I HOPE THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE TO HELP US ELIMINATE THE BLIGHT
07:39:47 THAT IS CAUSING THIS TRAUMA AND THAT'S CAUSING THIS
07:39:50 PERPETUAL VIOLENT AND SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN
07:39:56 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:39:58 SO I DO ASK, I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE ALCOHOL SUSPENSION
07:40:03 LICENSE SUSPENSION, AND ALSO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN CONSIDER
07:40:06 BEING A PART OF THAT SOCIAL SAFETY NET FOR US TONIGHT.
07:40:10 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
07:40:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
07:40:14 ANYBODY ELSE?
07:40:17 >> THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
07:40:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCIL, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
07:40:25 YOU HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY.
07:40:26 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO IS
07:40:30 STANDING UP NOW.
07:40:31 THEY ARE TIRED.
07:40:34 THEY ARE TIRED OF THESE STORES THAT PLACE QUICK LITTLE
07:40:44 SNACKS AND SO FORTH BUT ALSO FILTRATES A LOT OF ACTIVITY
07:40:47 THAT IS UNWARRANTED THAT HAS REALLY HURT THOSE COMMUNITIES.
07:40:51 BUT I KNOW THE CITY, AND I AM JUST ASKING A QUESTION.
07:40:55 I KNOW THE CITY.
07:40:57 WE GIVE LICENSES FOR PEOPLE TO OPEN BUSINESS, CORRECT?
07:41:02 TO OPERATE, CORRECT?
07:41:03 >>SIMONE SAVINO: GENERALLY ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT JUST AN
07:41:07 OPERATING LICENSE?
07:41:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OPERATING LICENSE.
07:41:11 >>SIMONE SAVINO: YES.
07:41:12 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS THE CITY'S RATE TO GRANT THAT.
07:41:14 CORRECT?
07:41:15 >>SIMONE SAVINO: THAT IS CORRECT.
07:41:19 TECHNICALLY IF IT COMES TO OUR ATTENTION BY WAY OF A NEW
07:41:22 OPERATION THAT'S STARTING IN A BUSINESS, YES, IF IT COMES TO
07:41:26 OUR ATTENTION THEN WE GO AFTER THEM AND REQUEST AN OPERATING
07:41:30 LICENSE.
07:41:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO I AM JUST WONDERING.
07:41:33 I AM JUST ASKING A QUESTION.
07:41:35 SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES WHO ARE OPERATING, A PREMISE TO HOW
07:41:41 THE CITY OF TAMPA LIKES TO OPERATE, CAN WE TAKE THOSE AWAY?
07:41:44 >>SIMONE SAVINO: WELL, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
07:41:47 CLEARLY, WE ARE NOT HERE FOR THAT TONIGHT.
07:41:49 I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL THE RULES BEHIND AN OPERATING LICENSE.
07:41:53 WE OBVIOUSLY ASSESS THOSE, AND THERE ARE RULES BEHIND THEM.
07:41:58 WHAT WE ARE HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR, THOUGH, IS THE ALCOHOLIC
07:42:01 BEVERAGE ORDINANCE/LICENSE THAT HAS BEEN ASSESSED FOR THIS
07:42:05 PROPERTY SINCE 1979.
07:42:07 >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.
07:42:15 MY MIND IS MOVING, MR. CITRO.
07:42:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HEAR YOU.
07:42:19 I'M WITH YOU.
07:42:19 I'M WITH YOU.
07:42:20 >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND I HEAR THE COMMUNITY LOUD AND CLEAR.
07:42:22 AND SOMETIME WE ARE GOING TO BE SENDING A MESSAGE TO SOME OF
07:42:25 THESE STORES TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THE COMMUNITY.
07:42:27 WE WANT THEM THERE.
07:42:28 WE WANT THEM TO THRIVE IN THEIR BUSINESSES BUT WE ALSO WANT
07:42:31 TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO
07:42:33 THE COMMUNITY.
07:42:33 AND I KNOW MY FRIEND LIVING DOWN THERE, AND I HEAR, AFRAID
07:42:44 TO LET MY WINDOW DOWN ON SOME WEEKEND NIGHT BECAUSE IF YOU
07:42:48 LOOK AT SOMEBODY WRONG YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY MIGHT DO
07:42:51 BECAUSE OF THE CROWDS DOWN THERE AND WHERE ARE THEY COMING
07:42:54 FROM?
07:42:54 SO MY MIND IS PONDERING NOW.
07:42:58 WE'LL TAKE THIS ISSUE I AM TALKING ABOUT AT A LATER DATE AND
07:43:02 MAY TAKE SOME KIND OF MOTION.
07:43:05 >> WORKSHOP.
07:43:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ON THAT ISSUE.
07:43:07 BUT YOU CAN CONTINUE.
07:43:08 >>SIMONE SAVINO: THANK YOU.
07:43:09 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: AT THIS TIME WE WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT
07:43:15 OVER TO THE BUSINESS OWNER AND THEIR REPRESENTATION.
07:43:17 THEY ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
07:43:19 AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY BEEN SWORN IN.
07:43:22 >>SIMONE SAVINO: I JUST WANT TO KNOW RESERVE TIME AFTER
07:43:25 THAT SO THE CITY CAN PRESENT ITS CLOSING.
07:43:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
07:43:30 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS NOTED.
07:43:32 WE DID HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
07:43:34 THERE IS AN AFFIDAVIT IN THE BINDER INDICATING THE AND WE
07:43:39 HAVE NO OBJECTION TO COUNCIL TAKING ACTION IN THIS CASE.
07:43:42 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:43:50 MY NAME IS DUSTIN DEESE, AN ATTORNEY AT McINTIRE AND
07:43:56 DAVIS, AND I GUESS I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE
07:43:58 TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE RESPONDENT, YBOR GROCERY STOP.
07:44:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE GET CTTV TO GET THE VOLUME UP?
07:44:06 MR. MIRANDA CAN'T HEAR.
07:44:08 THE COUNCIL CAN'T.
07:44:09 TRY IT AGAIN, SIR.
07:44:11 >> OKAY.
07:44:12 BEHIND ME IS MOHAMMED SOBH, THE PRINCIPAL OF YBOR GROCERY
07:44:17 STOP.
07:44:19 I HAVE LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION.
07:44:21 MY CLIENT HAS LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
07:44:25 I WOULD LIKE TO ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT THANK THE COMMUNITY
07:44:27 FOR THEIR INPUT TONIGHT.
07:44:29 IT'S CERTAINLY INFORMATIVE.
07:44:30 THE OFFICERS, THANK THEM FOR THEIR WORK AND THEIR
07:44:35 PRESENTATION TONIGHT AS WELL.
07:44:36 I THINK IT'S BEEN QUITE INFORMATIVE AND IT WAS GOOD TO
07:44:39 LISTEN TO AND FOR MY CLIENT TO LISTEN TO.
07:44:42 MY CLIENT VERY MUCH WANTS TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE
07:44:45 COMMUNITY AND BE A RESPONSIBLE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
07:44:49 AS HAS BEEN ALLUDED TO EARLIER, AND I AM GOING TO DEFER TO
07:44:53 COUNCIL.
07:44:53 I THINK KIND OF A PROFFER.
07:44:57 MY CLIENT HAS SOME KIND OF COMMUNICATIVE DIFFICULT AND I
07:45:00 WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PROFFER TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR
07:45:02 CONSIDERATION.
07:45:06 I WILL TAKE DIRECT QUESTIONS AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO MY
07:45:08 CLIENT IF THE COUNCIL HAS DIRECT QUESTIONS FOR MY CLIENT, HE
07:45:11 WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AS WELL.
07:45:13 IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL.
07:45:17 AS WAS ALLUDED TO EARLIER IN SOME OF THE TESTIMONY YOU HAVE
07:45:20 HEARD, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY, I DON'T THINK, AN YBOR
07:45:24 GROCERY STOP SPECIFIC ISSUE.
07:45:26 THERE'S A CONTRIBUTION CERTAINLY BY YBOR GROCERY STOP, BUT
07:45:29 THIS IS KIND OF AN INTERSECTION ISSUE.
07:45:33 THE LOITERING, THE CROWDS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN BE
07:45:37 SPECIFICALLY RELEGATED TO ONE BUSINESS OVER ANOTHER AS WAS
07:45:40 ALLUDED TO EARLIER.
07:45:41 THERE IS ANOTHER CONVENIENCE STORE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE
07:45:44 STREET.
07:45:45 THERE IS A STRICT LIQUOR STORE CATTY-CORNER FROM THE YBOR
07:45:50 GROCERY STOP.
07:45:51 AND THESE CROWDS THAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEN IN PICTURES AND
07:45:53 VIDEOS TONIGHT WILL OFTENTIMES MEANDER FROM ONE LOT TO
07:45:56 ANOTHER, PERHAPS AT TIMES TO AVOID LAW ENFORCEMENT
07:46:00 PERSONNEL.
07:46:00 YOU GET MOVED FROM ONE, YOU GO TO ANOTHER.
07:46:03 MY CLIENT HAS HAD THIS CONCERN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
07:46:06 THEY HAVE BEEN IN THIS SPOT SINCE 2014 OPERATING THERE IN
07:46:10 THE COMMUNITY AT THE SAME LOCATION.
07:46:12 AND REGRETTABLY RECOGNIZE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THIS PROBLEM
07:46:16 THAT WE HAVE SEEN TONIGHT, AND WITNESSED BY OTHERS AND IN
07:46:20 THE TESTIMONY AND IN THE DOCUMENTS AND PICTURES, REALLY CAME
07:46:23 TO A FOREFRONT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH THE MOVEMENT OF A
07:46:26 COUPLE MORE OF THESE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN DEPICTED IN
07:46:29 THE PICTURES, INCLUDING THE OTHER CONVENIENCE STORE, AND A
07:46:32 COUPLE OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WILL, I GUESS, ALLOW THESE
07:46:37 TYPE OF CROWDS TO GROW.
07:46:38 AND CERTAINLY IN THE PICTURES DICTATE THESE CROWDS CAN
07:46:42 MEANDER AROUND MY CLIENT'S BUSINESS.
07:46:44 MY CLIENT HASN'T BEEN IGNORANT OR TURNED A BLIND EYE TO IT.
07:46:49 HE'S ACTUALLY BEEN QUITE ACTIVE IN TRYING TO LIMIT THE BEST
07:46:54 HE CAN CURB THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY.
07:46:56 AND AT THE OUT SET I WANT TO SAY MY CLIENT IN NAP WAY
07:46:59 ENCOURAGES ILLICIT OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE SEEN AS
07:47:04 ALLUDED TO BY ALL THE OFFICERS TODAY, THE DRUGS, THE GUNS,
07:47:08 THE GAMBLING, ET CETERA.
07:47:11 MY CLIENT JUST SIMPLY DOES NOT ENCOURAGE THAT AND HAS TAKEN
07:47:15 STEPS AND MAYBE THE COMMUNITY IS NOT AWARE, THE OFFICERS MAY
07:47:17 BE BUT THE COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE, OF THOSE STEPS THAT MY
07:47:21 CLIENT HAS TAKEN TO DATE TO TRY TO DO THAT.
07:47:25 MY CLIENT IS QUITE LIMITED IN HIS ABILITY TO GO OUT AND
07:47:27 DISBURSE THESE CROWDS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY GET TO THE SIZE
07:47:30 AND NATURE THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN SOME OF THE PICTURES.
07:47:34 THEY ACTUALLY, AS THEY SAY, MY CLIENT HAS ACTUALLY ON MANY
07:47:38 OCCASIONS AT VARIOUS POINTS OF THE DAY, VARIOUS DAYS OF THE
07:47:41 WEEK, CALLED THE AUTHORITIES HIMSELF, CALLED THEM TO HAVE
07:47:44 THEM REMOVE CROWDS, HAVE THEM CALLED TO REMOVE PROBLEMATIC
07:47:48 INDIVIDUALS.
07:47:48 SO IT'S NOT AS IF MY CLIENT IS IN AN SENSE SELF-REPORTING
07:47:52 AND ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS CERTAIN OF THESE ISSUES.
07:47:56 THERE ARE NO LOITERING SIGNS PLACED THROUGHOUT MY CLIENT'S
07:47:59 PROPERTY, ALBEIT, IT APPEARS OBVIOUS FROM THE PICTURES THAT
07:48:03 THEY GO LARGELY NORTH.
07:48:04 THERE'S AN ISSUE WHERE MY CLIENT HAS SIGNED WHAT I WILL
07:48:07 REFER TO AS A GREEN PAPER, AND I MAY HAVE THE TERMINOLOGY
07:48:10 WRONG, OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS COULD BE PROBABLY SPEAK
07:48:13 TO IT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT FROM MY CLIENT IS THAT
07:48:16 THIS PAPER ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS THE AUTHORITIES, THE LAW
07:48:20 ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL, TO TRESPASS OR ARREST INDIVIDUALS
07:48:25 WITHOUT THE AUTHORIZATION OR INPUT OF THE STORE OWNER.
07:48:28 SO BASICALLY DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, OFFICERS, WE WILL GIVE
07:48:32 YOU CARTE BLANCHE PREAPPROVAL TO DO THAT.
07:48:35 MY CLIENT HAS DONE THAT.
07:48:37 MY CLIENT HAS SPOKE TO CERTAIN LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL AND
07:48:41 OFFERED AS WE HEARD VERY LIMITED PARKING SPACES TO OFFICERS
07:48:44 TO SIT IN WHILE THEY ARE ON PATROL, AT VARIOUS POINTS IN
07:48:48 TIMES WHEN THEY ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO HANDLE MATTERS OR
07:48:51 AFFAIRS OR JUST HAVE A CONSTANT PREFERENCE, HE'S OFFERED HIS
07:48:56 OWN LIMITED PARKING SPACE OH IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT LAW
07:48:58 ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.
07:49:00 WE TALKED -- ONE OF THE OFFICERS EARLIER MENTIONED
07:49:03 DISCUSSING WITH MY CLIENT THE POSSIBILITY OF CAMERAS.
07:49:05 THERE ARE AND HAVE BEEN FOUR SECURITY CAMERAS AT THE
07:49:09 PROPERTY.
07:49:10 SO WE HAVE THE TRESPASS CARD.
07:49:13 WE HAVE OFFERED PARKING SPACES TO OFFICERS TO SIT.
07:49:18 IF IT HURTS OUR BUSINESS IT HURTS OUR BUSINESS BUT WE MADE
07:49:21 THAT OFFER.
07:49:22 THE SIGNS, WE HAVE MADE THE CALLS.
07:49:25 AND OF COURSE WE HAVE, I SAID, THE CAMERAS.
07:49:30 NOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT GOES BACK SOME PERIOD OF
07:49:33 TIME, AND I THINK ONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT
07:49:37 PRESENTED SOME PHOTOGRAPHS LAST FRIDAY.
07:49:42 THAT'S AN INTERESTING DAY.
07:49:43 I ALSO HAVE A PHOTO OF FRIDAY, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT DAY,
07:49:46 BECAUSE MY CLIENT -- AND I THINK MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY
07:49:49 WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEST AND CERTAINLY THE OFFICERS ON PATROL
07:49:53 WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEST, MY CLIENT MADE A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE
07:49:56 IN HIS PRACTICE THIS LAST WEEKEND, AND MAYBE A LITTLE LATE,
07:49:59 BUT NONETHELESS HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO
07:50:03 RESOLVE AND CURB THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
07:50:06 AND HE HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN OPEN 24 HOURS.
07:50:11 HE WAS OPEN TILL 11 P.M. EVERY NIGHT INSIDE, AND THEN AFTER
07:50:17 11 UNTIL THE MORNING HOURS, SALES WOULD BE MADE THROUGH THE
07:50:20 WINDOW.
07:50:20 BUT IT WAS A 24 HOUR A DAY OPERATION.
07:50:23 ON SATURDAY, THAT'S AUGUST 21, EFFECTIVE ON AUGUST 21, MY
07:50:27 CLIENT CHANGED HIS PRACTICE AND HAS REMAINED THAT WAY SINCE
07:50:31 LAST SATURDAY.
07:50:32 HE NOW HAS CLOSED HIS BUSINESS ENTIRELY AT 11 P.M., AND THEN
07:50:37 OPENS UP THE FOLLOWING MORNING AT 7 A.M.
07:50:42 AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE THAT I AM GOING TO PUT UP
07:50:47 THAT I THINK WILL REFLECT -- AND THIS GOES BACK TO MAYBE
07:50:50 WHAT THE OFFICER SAID EARLIER, ONE OF THE OFFICERS MENTIONED
07:50:53 DISCUSSING THIS IN THE PAST TRYING TO CHANGE TIMES.
07:50:56 MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP.
07:50:57 WE HAVE GOT THE CAMERAS.
07:50:59 WE HAVE OFFERED AGAIN OFFERED SPACE FOR POLICE PRESENCE.
07:51:05 BUT SINCE LAST SATURDAY WHAT THE CHANGE OF HOURS HAVE
07:51:10 ACCOMPLISHED AT MY CLIENT'S STORE AND AT THIS INTERSECTION
07:51:13 AS A WHOLE.
07:51:14 THE FIRST PICTURE GOES BACK TO LAST FRIDAY NIGHT.
07:51:16 THIS IS I THINK THE SAME NIGHT OF THAT PARTY BUS THAT ONE OF
07:51:21 THE WITNESSES PRESENTED.
07:51:24 DO I HAVE THAT WHERE YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT?
07:51:33 I'M SORRY.
07:51:36 ALL RIGHT.
07:51:36 SO THIS IS LAST FRIDAY NIGHT, CORRECT?
07:51:41 AT JUST ABOUT MIDNIGHT.
07:51:42 SO THIS WAS STILL A NIGHT WHERE HE WAS GOING TO BE OPEN, MY
07:51:46 CLIENT WAS GOING TO BE OPEN FOR 24 HOURS.
07:51:50 THIS IS THAT SAME NIGHT.
07:51:54 NOW, THIS IS LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET.
07:51:56 THE IMMEDIATE PARKING LOT ON THE BOTTOM IS MY CLIENT'S.
07:51:59 ACROSS THE STREET IS THAT OTHER CONVENIENCE STORE THAT I
07:52:03 REFERENCED EARLIER.
07:52:04 AGAIN GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAID.
07:52:05 I DON'T THINK THIS IS A STRICTLY AN YBOR GROCERY STOP ISSUE.
07:52:09 THIS IS AN ENTIRE AREA OR INTERSECTION ISSUE.
07:52:13 CERTAINLY WITH THESE BUSINESSES IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO
07:52:17 ONE ANOTHER.
07:52:17 BUT THIS IS THE FRIDAY NIGHT, AND ACROSS THE STREET, THIS IS
07:52:20 THE SAME NIGHT I BELIEVE THAT THE PARTY BUS PICTURES THAT
07:52:23 THE WITNESS SHOWED EARLIER.
07:52:25 NOW, THIS IS ALSO FRIDAY NIGHT, AT 12:11 A.M. GOING INTO
07:52:30 SATURDAY MORNING, I SHOULD SAY.
07:52:31 AGAIN, THIS IS PROBABLY EXEMPLARY OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN A
07:52:37 NUMBER OF PICTURES, THE CONGREGATION, THE LATE NIGHT, THE
07:52:40 GATHERINGS, THE MEANDERING AND THE ISSUES THAT THE COMMUNITY
07:52:43 RIGHTFULLY HAS.
07:52:44 SO THIS IS THAT FRIDAY NIGHT.
07:52:49 NOW I WANT TO GO TO THAT NEXT DAY, SATURDAY, GOING INTO
07:52:54 MIDNIGHT AND THEN EARLY INTO SUNDAY MORNING.
07:52:57 THIS IS WHEN MY CLIENT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE HE'S OPENED
07:53:00 THIS BUSINESS CLOSED HIS DOORS ENTIRELY AT 11 P.M., NO MORE
07:53:05 BUSINESS.
07:53:05 THE FIRST ONE IS AT APPROXIMATELY 9:50 P.M.
07:53:12 OBVIOUSLY VERY FEW, A COUPLE OF CARS IN THE PARKING LOT.
07:53:15 NOW WE GET TO AFTER CLOSING.
07:53:17 SO THIS IS WHERE ON FRIDAY NIGHT, WE SAW THAT LARGE
07:53:21 GATHERING, CARS IN OUR PARKING LOT, CARS ACROSS THE STREET,
07:53:25 THE LOITERING, MEANDERING AROUND, THAT EVERYBODY HAS
07:53:30 RIGHTFULLY COMPLAINED OF TODAY.
07:53:31 NOW THIS IS AT 12:13.
07:53:33 THIS WOULD BE AN HOUR 13 MINUTES AFTER CLOSING ON SATURDAY
07:53:36 NIGHT.
07:53:37 THE PICTURE OF MY CLIENT'S PARKING LOT.
07:53:43 MARKEDLY DIFFERENT THAN FRIDAY NIGHT.
07:53:44 EMPTY.
07:53:46 HERE IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF MY CLIENT'S PARKING LOT AT
07:53:49 12:14 A.M. SATURDAY EVENING GOING INTO SUNDAY MORNING.
07:53:53 EMPTY.
07:53:55 AND THIS IS SATURDAY NIGHT.
07:53:57 ONE DAY LATER.
07:54:00 OKAY.
07:54:00 SO NOW I AM GOING TO GO TO SUNDAY NIGHT GOING INTO EARLY
07:54:03 MONDAY MORNING.
07:54:04 THIS IS AT 12:22 A.M.
07:54:07 WE HAVE NOW BEEN CLOSED FOR AN HOUR 22 MINUTES.
07:54:12 AGAIN, MY CLIENT'S PARKING LOT LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET.
07:54:16 I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT WHEN WE STARTED CLOSING AT 11 P.M.,
07:54:20 CERTAIN OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES, INCLUDING THE ONE WE ARE
07:54:22 LOOKING AT, STARTED CLOSING EARLY, ALSO.
07:54:26 FOLLOWING OUR LEAD.
07:54:27 THIS IS SUNDAY NIGHT.
07:54:29 REMEMBER THE PICTURE WE SAW ON FRIDAY NIGHT WITH ALL THE
07:54:32 CARS THERE AT THE SAME TIME, APPROXIMATELY.
07:54:36 ANOTHER PICTURE SUNDAY EVENING.
07:54:40 THIS ONE JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT.
07:54:43 AGAIN, AN HOUR AFTER CLOSING.
07:54:45 OUR CLIENT'S PARKING LOT EMPTY.
07:54:52 THIS ONE WOULD BE MONDAY NIGHT GOING INTO TUESDAY MORNING.
07:54:55 THIS IS AT 12:30, 12:38 IN THE MORNING.
07:55:00 MONDAY GOING INTO TUESDAY.
07:55:02 THAT SAME CAMERA.
07:55:04 THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
07:55:05 MY CLIENT'S PARKING LOT.
07:55:07 THE NEIGHBORING STORE ACROSS THE STREET.
07:55:09 YOU CAN SEE THE LACK OF CARS, THE LACK OF INDIVIDUALS, THE
07:55:12 LACK OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
07:55:18 HERE IS ANOTHER ONE FROM THE SAME EVENING AT MIDNIGHT.
07:55:25 ANOTHER ONE THAT SAME EVENING.
07:55:31 OKAY.
07:55:32 NOW GOING TUESDAY NIGHT GOING INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING,
07:55:35 12:24 A.M., THAT FAMILIAR ANGLE, MY CLIENT'S PARKING LOT
07:55:41 LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET.
07:55:42 NO CARS.
07:55:43 NO PEDESTRIANS.
07:55:44 NO LOITERING.
07:55:49 THAT SAME EVENING, JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT.
07:55:52 EMPTY.
07:55:56 AND THE SAME ONE AGAIN.
07:56:02 THIS WAS A LITTLE EARLIER ON AUGUST 25th, WOULD HAVE
07:56:06 BEEN YESTERDAY AT AROUND 8:50 P.M.
07:56:09 THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT TWO HOURS PRIOR TO CLOSING.
07:56:18 AND THEN I HAVE ONE LAST EVENING GOING INTO EARLY THIS
07:56:21 MORNING AT 12:23.
07:56:25 AGAIN, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER
07:56:29 CLOSING.
07:56:30 NEIGHBORING BUSINESS NOW CLOSING.
07:56:32 YOU DON'T HAVE THE GATHERINGS, THE CARS, THE PEDESTRIANS.
07:56:38 LAST NIGHT AGAIN, EARLY THIS MORNING.
07:56:43 SO COUNCIL, I WANT TO JUST REINFORCE, I THINK, THAT MY
07:56:49 CLIENT SINCE INCEPTION HAS RECOGNIZED THE PROBLEM.
07:56:53 HE HAS TAKEN ALBEIT SMALLER STEPS IN THE PAST WITH
07:56:56 COORDINATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ATTEMPTING TO COMPLY WITH
07:56:59 LAW ENFORCEMENT.
07:57:00 HE'S CERTAINLY NEVER IMPEDED LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WORKED
07:57:04 COOPERATIVELY WITH THEM, HAS AGAIN AUTHORIZED THEM TO
07:57:08 TRESPASS INDIVIDUALS, COOPERATES WITH THEY DO COME OUT AND
07:57:12 CALLS THEM OUT.
07:57:12 AND NOW WE HAVE TAKEN THE REALLY LARGE STEP HERE THAT I
07:57:15 THINK WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, CERTAINLY THE PICTURES OF
07:57:17 THE LAST FIVE DAYS DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT
07:57:20 PATH.
07:57:21 OTHER BUSINESSES ARE FOLLOWING.
07:57:22 WE HAVE FIVE CONSECUTIVE NIGHTS OF CLOSING AT 11, AND WE SEE
07:57:26 NO CARS, NO LOITERING, NO MEANDERING, AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
07:57:31 SITUATION, 180 DEGREES.
07:57:34 NOTICE IF THE GOAL IS COMPLIANCE, IF THE GOAL IS TO BE A
07:57:38 GOOD NEIGHBOR, IF THE GOAL IS TO HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT DO
07:57:41 THEIR JOB, I THINK THIS LAST EFFORT CERTAINLY HAS MADE A
07:57:47 MARKABLE CHANGE AND I HOPE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IMPRESS THAT
07:57:50 UPON THE COUNCIL HERE.
07:57:51 WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY.
07:57:53 AND WE INTEND TO DO THAT.
07:57:55 AS FAR AS THE CODE VIOLATIONS, I WILL JUST SPEAK BRIEFLY TO
07:57:59 THAT.
07:58:00 WE HEARD FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND WE HAVE SEEN
07:58:03 SOME PICTURES.
07:58:04 THAT WAS DEALT WITH BY THE MAGISTRATE.
07:58:06 AND THE LANDLORD ARE ON A DEADLINE, I THINK IT WAS DATED
07:58:10 MIDDLE OF OCTOBER, OCTOBER 13.
07:58:12 THE LANDLORD AND MY CLIENT ARE IN ACTIVE COMMUNICATION,
07:58:15 MEETING WITH CONTRACTORS.
07:58:17 THERE'S A MEETING TOMORROW WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
07:58:19 THE PROPERTY OWNER'S INTENT ALONG WITH MY CLIENT'S INTENT IS
07:58:23 TO SATISFY THOSE CODE VIOLATIONS IN THE TIME PROVIDED, BRING
07:58:27 THAT PROPERTY INTO FULL COMPLIANCE.
07:58:30 IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE AN UNDERTAKING, TIME.
07:58:33 WE HAVE LIMITED TIME BUT WE CAN GET IT DONE.
07:58:35 IT'S GOING TO TAKE CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE.
07:58:37 AND I JUST THINK WITH THE CHANGES WE HAVE MADE AND THE
07:58:41 DEMONSTRATED EFFORT AND THE BEST OF THOSE CHANGES THAT WE
07:58:44 HAVE SEEN IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD, WE ASK THIS COUNCIL NOT
07:58:47 TAKE THE ADDITIONAL STEP OF SUSPENDING OUR LIQUOR LICENSE OR
07:58:51 ALCOHOL LICENSE AND CUTTING OFF OUR REVENUE AT THIS TIME
07:58:54 WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
07:58:57 WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
07:58:59 ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
07:59:01 AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A MARKABLE
07:59:04 STRIDE WITH THAT LAST WEEK AND INTO THIS WEEK.
07:59:07 I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL WHO I AM SURE MAY HAVE
07:59:10 SOME QUESTIONS FOR ME OR MY CLIENT, MR. SOBH, AND I
07:59:14 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
07:59:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
07:59:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PICTURES ARE FANTASTIC.
07:59:24 THEY SAY A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS AND YOU
07:59:26 CERTAINLY HAVE PRESENTED YOUR CLIENT VERY ELOQUENTLY AND
07:59:29 VERY PROFESSIONALLY.
07:59:30 HOWEVER, AS COLOMBO WOULD SAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
07:59:33 SAID EARLIER, THAT YOU WERE SELLING LIQUOR THROUGH A WINDOW
07:59:37 24 HOURS.
07:59:38 >> I APOLOGIZE, OUR STORE WAS OPEN 24 HOURS.
07:59:41 WE WOULD SELL OTHER PRODUCTS IN ADDITION TO ALCOHOL, BUT WE
07:59:44 DID NOT SELL ALCOHOL WITHIN THE RESTRICTED TIME.
07:59:47 I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.
07:59:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S THE WAY IT CAME ACROSS.
07:59:52 I HEARD THAT AND I SAID, I AM GETTING CONFUSED.
07:59:54 >> NO, NO.
07:59:58 I'M GLAD YOU CLARIFIED IT.
08:00:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM SAW THAT AND I THOUGHT SOMETHING
08:00:04 DOESN'T ADD UP, IF THIS COUNCIL DOES A GOOD JOB, I
08:00:07 APPRECIATE YOUR CONVERSATION, SIR.
08:00:09 THANK YOU.
08:00:09 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
08:00:19 >>BILL CARLSON: I WONDER IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION WHILE HIS
08:00:24 COUNSEL IS HERE.
08:00:25 YOU MENTIONED THE BUSINESS OWNER HAD CONTACTED 911 MULTIPLE
08:00:29 TIMES.
08:00:29 DO WE HAVE A RECORD OF THAT?
08:00:32 DOES THE IS CITY HAVE A RECORD, ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES
08:00:38 CONTACTED 911 AND IF SO HOW OFTEN?
08:00:42 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: AS FAR AS THE TIMES THAT INDIVIDUALS
08:00:44 FROM THE BUSINESS CALLED 911?
08:00:48 I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT HE M.I DO KNOW THAT SOME
08:00:51 OF THE EVENTS THAT WERE REFERENCED EARLIER DID INCLUDE CALLS
08:00:55 FROM THE BUSINESS, HOWEVER THE MAJORITY WERE CALLS --
08:01:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR RECORD ARE YOU REPRESENTING JUST THE
08:01:09 STORE OWNER OR ARE YOU REPRESENTING PROPERTY OWNER, ALSO?
08:01:12 >> I REPRESENT SOLELY THE BUSINESS OWNER.
08:01:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOLELY THE BUSINESS OWNER.
08:01:18 THANK YOU.
08:01:18 GOING BACK TO OUR COUNSEL, WHEN IS THE DATE FOR COMPLIANCE
08:01:25 THAT THE MAGISTRATE HAD ORDERED?
08:01:30 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: I BELIEVE OCTOBER 17.
08:01:33 OCTOBER 17.
08:01:34 >>SIMONE SAVINO: YES.
08:01:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OCTOBER 17.
08:01:43 A LITTLE UNDER 60 DAYS.
08:01:45 >>SIMONE SAVINO: EXACTLY 60 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THEIR
08:01:48 ORDER.
08:01:48 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
08:01:50 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:01:52 I WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS LATER.
08:01:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA SAID -- I GO OUT THERE ALL THE
08:02:02 TIME, AND YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY BAD ACTOR.
08:02:06 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BAD ACTORS DOWN THERE AS WELL.
08:02:09 AND WE ARE AWARE OF IT.
08:02:11 THERE ARE SEVERAL BAD ON THAT CORNER.
08:02:14 IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU HAD TO BE FIRST.
08:02:17 BUT WHAT I CAN SAY, I'M GLAD YOU ARE TAKING SOME STEPS,
08:02:24 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT BETWEEN NOW AND ABOUT 5:00, FROM
08:02:27 THURSDAY TO PROBABLY SUNDAY, FROM 5:00 P.M. TO PROBABLY
08:02:32 ABOUT 11 OR 12, THOSE PICTURES ARE NICE THAT YOU GOT 12:00
08:02:40 AND AFTERWARDS, BUT I KNOW FROM SEEING THAT ABOUT 5:00, ON
08:02:48 THURSDAY, IT'S PANDEMONIUM OUT THERE.
08:02:53 THAT'S GREAT THAT -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME BIGGER PROBLEMS
08:03:01 THAT WE HAVE TO SOLVE, AND WE ARE GOING TO GET ALL THREE OF
08:03:06 THOSE BUSINESSES TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THEIR
08:03:08 RESPONSIBILITY TO HANDLE THE PEOPLE AT THEIR STORES, IT'S
08:03:15 THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO NOT HAVE PEOPLE LOITERING ON THEIR
08:03:17 PROPERTY, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE PEOPLE NOT
08:03:21 DRINKING OR ON THEIR PROPERTY.
08:03:23 SO THOSE THINGS YOU ARE TRYING TO DO ARE WELL AND GOOD, BUT
08:03:28 FOR OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S STILL YOUR PROPERTY, THE BUSINESS
08:03:32 OWNER OR ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE HAVE AN ISSUE ON
08:03:35 YOUR PROPERTY, AND WE HAVE TO FIX THE ISSUE REFERENCE TO
08:03:37 YOUR PROPERTY.
08:03:44 MR. CARLSON.
08:03:44 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
08:03:46 JUST ANOTHER QUESTION.
08:03:48 I THINK OUR CITY'S COUNSEL, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, YOU
08:03:54 SAID THE BUILDING OWNER DID NOT OBJECT TO THE HEARING,
08:03:58 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
08:03:59 DO WE KNOW WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS?
08:04:03 HAS THE BUSINESS OWNER BEEN ONE OF THE COMPLAINANTS?
08:04:08 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT BEEN ONE OF
08:04:10 THE COMPLAINANTS TO COME IN.
08:04:12 WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL FOR THE PROPERTY
08:04:14 OWNER.
08:04:15 THEY INDICATED THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE AN OBJECTION, AND THEY
08:04:18 DID HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT ASSERTING TO
08:04:22 THAT, AND A COPY OF THAT IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN YOUR BINDER
08:04:28 AT 8-H.
08:04:33 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NO OBJECTION TO
08:04:36 WHAT?
08:04:37 >> TO COUNCIL TAKING ACTION IN THIS CASE.
08:04:40 >>SIMONE SAVINO: I WILL LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE HAVE
08:04:43 COMMUNICATED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER'S COUNSEL PRIOR TO
08:04:46 TODAY'S HEARING AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT ALL THE NOTICE
08:04:48 SAID WAS IT WAS A MANDATORY APPEARANCE, AND DESPITE THAT,
08:04:51 THEY STILL FELT IT WAS IN THEIR INTEREST TO NOT APPEAR.
08:04:54 AND ALSO, I JUST WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD HERE THAT KENDRICK
08:04:58 AND I HAVE BEEN UP TO TODAY'S HEARING HAVE BEEN IN
08:05:03 COMMUNICATION WITH COUNSEL FOR BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER AS
08:05:05 WELL AS THE TENANT, AND THERE'S BEEN CONFLICTING INFORMATION
08:05:11 BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
08:05:12 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY OF THE UNDERSTANDING
08:05:16 THE IMPACT THAT THIS HAS ON EACH OF THEM.
08:05:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
08:05:26 SHE'S BEEN ASKING.
08:05:27 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
08:05:30 MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
08:05:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DURING THIS RECESS I AM GOING TO ASK THE
08:05:35 COUNCIL TO ADVISE YOU TO NOT SPEAK AMONGST YOURSELVES NOR TO
08:05:39 ANY WITNESSES OR PRESENTERS.
08:05:40 THANK YOU.
08:05:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
08:05:42 WE ARE IN RECESS.
08:05:45 [ CITY COUNCIL RECESS ]
08:14:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
08:14:46 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
08:14:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
08:14:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
08:14:50 >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
08:14:53 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
08:14:53 I THINK WE LEFT OFF WITH THE APPLICANT, CORRECT?
08:14:59 >>SIMONE SAVINO: ACTUALLY, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND I
08:15:07 DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT OFF KENNY, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECALL
08:15:12 ONE OF OUR WITNESSES, I BELIEVE HE'S STILL PRESENT,
08:15:14 DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS.
08:15:16 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WERE WE FINISHED WITH THE ATTORNEY?
08:15:19 >>SIMONE SAVINO: SURE, WE CAN DEFER TO MR. DEESE.
08:15:24 I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S FINISHED.
08:15:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY TO START OFF, I JUST
08:15:35 WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION TO CLARIFY.
08:15:40 BEFORE ME I HAVE THE LEASE THAT WAS SIGNED JUNE 1st OF
08:15:44 2014 WHICH ENDED ON THE 31st DAY OF MAY 2019.
08:15:50 IS THERE STILL A LEASE THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE WITH THE
08:15:55 PROPERTY OWNER?
08:15:55 >> YES, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
08:15:58 THIS IS DUSTIN DEESE.
08:16:02 THAT LEASE WAS RENEWED FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS SO
08:16:05 ROUGHLY WE ARE THE SECOND YEAR OF A FIVE-YEAR LEASE.
08:16:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIGNED OR JUST A VERBAL AGREEMENT?
08:16:11 >> IT'S SIGNED.
08:16:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
08:16:14 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:16:15 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY CONTINUE, MR. DEESE.
08:16:17 ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, SIR?
08:16:19 >> YOUR HONOR -- I'M SORRY, COUNCIL, I DO NOT.
08:16:24 I THINK I TRIED TO CONVEY AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE A VITAL PART,
08:16:29 AN IMPORTANT PART AND A GOOD COMMUNITY MEMBER HERE.
08:16:31 AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE TAKEN STEPS, I BELIEVE, AND I'M
08:16:35 CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND WE HAVE OTHERS
08:16:38 FOLLOWING OUR LEAD.
08:16:39 I WOULD AGAIN OFFER COUNCIL, ANY COUNCILMEMBER HAS ANY
08:16:43 QUESTIONS FOR ME, OR WANT TO HEAR FROM MY CLIENT DIRECTLY,
08:16:47 WE ARE READY.
08:16:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES YOUR CLIENT WISH TO SPEAK TO US, SIR?
08:16:51 >> NO, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, HE CAN DO DIRECT QUESTIONS
08:17:00 AND ANSWERS BUT COMMUNICATING OFF THE CUFF IS PROBABLY VERY
08:17:04 DIFFICULT FOR HIM.
08:17:05 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, SIR.
08:17:07 COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
08:17:09 ALL RIGHT.
08:17:09 WE GO BACK TO MR. DONNELLY.
08:17:16 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: WE DID WANT TO CALL CURTIS WILLIAMS
08:17:20 BACK UP TO SPEAK ON THE GREEN CARD, THE TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT,
08:17:25 AND IF WE CAN HAVE DETECTIVE WILLIAMS TALK ABOUT THE
08:17:28 SIGNIFICANCE OF IT, WHAT IS APPLICABLE AND HOW IT APPLIES TO
08:17:32 BUSINESSES SUCH AS YBOR GROCERY.
08:17:37 >> DETECTIVE CURTIS WILLIAMS.
08:17:42 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: WELCOME BACK.
08:17:47 >>SIMONE SAVINO: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU JUST HEARD WHAT KENNY
08:17:50 WAS GOING THROUGH.
08:17:51 >> IN REFERENCE TO THE GREEN PLACARDS?
08:17:55 >>SIMONE SAVINO: YES.
08:17:56 >> SO AN EXPLANATION, THE ATTORNEY HAD SAID THAT HIS CLIENT
08:18:01 HAD SIGNED A TRESPASS AUTHORIZATION GIVING THE POLICE CARTE
08:18:05 BLANCHE, AND THAT'S NOT EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS.
08:18:11 TO CLARIFY, THE TRESPASS AUTHORIZATION IS SIGNED BY THE
08:18:17 PROPERTY OWNER, OR BUSINESS OWNER, TO GIVE POLICE THE
08:18:21 AUTHORITY TO ACT WHEN THE BUSINESS AND THE BUSINESS OWNER IS
08:18:25 NOT PRESENT.
08:18:27 SO REALLY THIS AGREEMENT IS USED DURING A 24/7 OPERATION.
08:18:37 BUSINESS PROPERTY LIKE COUNSEL HAD SAID IS THE PROPERTY
08:18:41 OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
08:18:43 SO THEY STILL NEED TO CALL IN AND REQUEST SERVICES.
08:18:45 IF IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT -- THAT INVESTIGATION.
08:18:50 WITH THOSE GREEN PLACARDS, THEY DON'T NEGATE THE NEED FOR A
08:18:54 PROPERTY OWNER TO REQUEST SERVICES.
08:18:55 >>SIMONE SAVINO: THANK YOU, CURTIS.
08:19:03 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:19:14 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: THE LAST THING IS CLOSING.
08:19:16 AND IF THE CURRENT SLIDE CAN BE BROUGHT UP.
08:19:24 THANK YOU.
08:19:27 COUNCIL, AGAIN, THIS IS 27-318-C-1, OUR CODE SECTION THAT
08:19:33 DETAILS WHAT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO REVOKE OR SUSPEND THE
08:19:36 SALE OF ALCOHOL AT A LOCATION FOR CAUSE.
08:19:39 THERE ARE SEVERAL ENUMERATED SECTIONS OF THE CODE THAT --
08:19:47 SEVERAL DIFFERENT REASONS THAT WE COULD MOVE TO SUSPEND.
08:19:50 HOWEVER THE CITY IN THIS CASE HAS THREE, B, C AND D,
08:19:55 MAINTAINING NUISANCE OF THE PROPERTY, A LOUGH DISORDERLY
08:19:59 CONDUCT ON THE PROPERTY, OR HAVING SECONDARY NEGATIVE
08:20:02 EFFECTS ON THE COMMUNITY.
08:20:03 IN THIS CASE, YBOR GROCERY HAS DONE ALL THREE.
08:20:10 ALLOWED SALES TO TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS A PUBLIC
08:20:13 NUISANCE BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING -- TO PROVIDE SOME
08:20:19 COFFEE OR SOME SNACKS IN THE MORNING, HE COULDN'T GET TO THE
08:20:21 STORE.
08:20:22 HE COULDN'T GET IN THE STORE WITHOUT SOMEONE OFFERING HIM
08:20:24 DRUGS.
08:20:25 TRYING TO SELL HIM DRUGS.
08:20:27 HE WOULD WALK INTO AND OUT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
08:20:30 AND HIS STATEMENT WAS THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE.
08:20:33 SO THE INDIVIDUALS WERE TRYING TO ENGAGE AND ACTUALLY
08:20:36 UTILIZE THE BUSINESS FOR NORMAL BUSINESS SALES AND NORMAL
08:20:39 BUSINESS PRACTICES WITH A NORMAL CONVENIENCE STORE CAN'T DO
08:20:43 SO BECAUSE OF THE ACTIVITY THAT THE BUSINESS OWNER IS
08:20:46 ALLOWING TO TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY.
08:20:48 WHEN IT COMES TO DISORDERLY CONDUCT, EITHER ENGAGING OR
08:20:51 PERMITTING, YOU SAW THE VIDEO OF THE CONGREGATION ON THE
08:20:58 SITE, ON THE PROPERTY.
08:21:00 YOU SAW THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE THERE.
08:21:02 YOU HEARD TESTIMONY ABOUT PARTY BUSES THAT ARE THERE, WITH
08:21:06 INDIVIDUALS BLOCKING TRAFFIC, SO INDIVIDUALS CAN'T TRAVEL TO
08:21:09 AND FROM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, AND ENGAGING IN THE CONDUCT,
08:21:18 AN EMPLOYEE OF THE BUSINESS FIRING A WEAPON IN ORDER TO TRY
08:21:21 TO SCARE A POTENTIAL SHOPLIFTER.
08:21:24 THESE ARE ACTIONS THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN BY A REASONABLE
08:21:27 BUSINESS.
08:21:29 THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL IS A PRIVILEGE, IT'S NOT A
08:21:32 RIGHT.
08:21:33 SO THE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE, REASONABLE
08:21:36 BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESPONSIBLE REASONABLE MEMBERS OF THE
08:21:39 COMMUNITY.
08:21:41 YBOR GROCERY HAS PROVEN OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THAT THEY
08:21:43 HAVE BEEN NOT BEEN, ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT INSTANCES.
08:21:48 THE FIRST INSTANCE WHERE THE POLICE REPORT OF MARCH OF 2020
08:21:52 SO THEY WERE FIRST PUT ON NOTICE ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
08:21:56 FROM AN ARREST THAT TOOK PLACE IN MARCH OF 2020.
08:21:58 SUBSEQUENT TO THAT,
08:22:00 THEY RECEIVED A NOTICE THAT THEY HAD, BECAUSE THEY HAD SO
08:22:05 MUCH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THEY WERE PUT ON NOTICE IN FEBRUARY
08:22:07 OF THIS YEAR THAT THE ACTIVITY HAS RISEN TO THE LEVEL THAT
08:22:11 IT QUALIFIES FOR PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT.
08:22:15 IT TOOK FROM MARCH OF 2020 THROUGH FEBRUARY OF 2021 AND NO
08:22:23 ACTION WAS TAKEN.
08:22:23 THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN WAS TAKEN WITHIN THE PAST FIVE
08:22:26 DAYS.
08:22:27 THIS IS -- THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ACTION BEFORE.
08:22:30 NOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE.
08:22:33 THE CITY COUNCIL CAN SUSPEND THE PERMIT, AND CAN SUSPEND THE
08:22:38 ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON THE PROPERTY FOR UP
08:22:41 TO 30 DAYS FOR THE FIRST VIOLATION.
08:22:43 AND THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER IN
08:22:45 MAKING A DETERMINATION AS TO HOW LONG THEY WANT TO ISSUE THE
08:22:50 SUSPENSION.
08:22:52 THE FIRST IS THE GRAVITY OF THE VIOLATION.
08:22:57 THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT VIOLATION.
08:22:59 THE NUMBER OF DRUG SALES THAT TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY,
08:23:02 THE NUMBER OF GUN VIOLENCE THAT TOOK PLACE ON THE PROPERTY,
08:23:06 THE FACT THAT GUN VIOLENCE TOOK PLACE ON THE PROPERTY, AND
08:23:11 WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESS TO
08:23:14 GET SOME VIDEO SURVEILLANCE TO SEE WHO THE PERPETRATORS
08:23:18 WERE, THEY HAD DIFFICULTY.
08:23:19 THAT SHOULD BE A SITUATION -- THIS IS A REASONABLE
08:23:23 RESPECTFUL BUSINESS THERE SHOULD BE NO QUESTION. IF A
08:23:25 SHOOTING TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE THEIR PROPERTY, THERE IS NO
08:23:28 QUESTION, THEY WILL PROVIDE AS MUCH ASSISTANCE TO LAW
08:23:31 ENFORCEMENT AS POSSIBLE.
08:23:32 AND THE FIRST THING THEY CAN DO IS PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT
08:23:35 VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM SO THEY CAN PROPERLY TRY TO
08:23:38 IDENTIFY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE SHOOTING
08:23:41 AND MAKE AN ARREST IN ORDER TO TRY TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY
08:23:44 SAFE BECAUSE A SHOOTING JUST TOOK PLACE.
08:23:47 AND THIS IS THE SITUATION.
08:23:48 YOU HEARD TESTIMONY THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT.
08:23:50 THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT THE SUPPORT THEY NEED.
08:23:53 THEY COMPLETELY ABDICATED THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP
08:23:57 CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY.
08:23:59 SO THEY MADE CHANGES IN THE PAST FIVE DAYS, BUT THE CALLS
08:24:07 HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS.
08:24:08 SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT EVIDENCE OVER THE PAST 18
08:24:11 MONTHS VERSUS EVIDENCE FROM A COUPLE HOURS OVER THE PAST
08:24:14 FIVE DAYS, THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT
08:24:17 THEY HAVE BEEN AN IRRESPONSIBLE BUSINESS OWNER AND
08:24:19 IRRESPONSIBLE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEREFORE THEY
08:24:22 HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION OF 27-318-C.
08:24:25 SO THE SECOND FACTOR IS ACTION TAKEN BY THE VIOLATORS TO
08:24:31 CORRECT THE VIOLATION WHICH IS WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING
08:24:33 ABOUT.
08:24:34 IN 17 MONTHS AND 25 DAYS, THEY DID NOTHING.
08:24:39 THEY DID NOTHING.
08:24:40 AND YOU HEARD TESTIMONY FROM OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE
08:24:44 COMMUNITY, WHO HAVE BEEN IN THAT DISTRICT, WHO PATROL THAT
08:24:48 DISTRICT, WHO RESPONDED TO THAT LOCATION ON NUMEROUS
08:24:49 OCCASIONS AND SAW NO CHANGE.
08:24:52 THEY SAW NO CHANGE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION UNTIL
08:24:57 THIS PAST WEEKEND.
08:25:02 SO THEY TOOK NO ACTIONS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, AND THEY WANT
08:25:07 THE ACTION BEINGS OF THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE DAYS TO ERASE
08:25:10 EVERYTHING THAT'S TAKEN PLACE IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS.
08:25:12 AND I AM ASKING COUNCIL NOT TO FIND THAT.
08:25:14 I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO FIND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION
08:25:17 OF SECTION B, C AND D AND ASKING COUNCIL TO SUSPEND THEIR
08:25:23 LICENSE FOR THE MAXIMUM OF 30 DAYS.
08:25:26 THE THIRD FACTOR IS ANY PREVIOUS VIOLATIONS COMMITTED BY THE
08:25:29 VIOLATOR.
08:25:29 AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE FOR
08:25:32 VIOLATION OF THIS NATURE.
08:25:34 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE BROUGHT THE ALCOHOLIC
08:25:36 BEVERAGE PERMIT SUSPENSION TO THEM.
08:25:38 SO THERE'S NO -- THE MAXIMUM IS THE 30 DAYS.
08:25:43 NOW, THEY HAVE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE AS TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
08:25:46 THAT'S TAKEN PLACE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
08:25:48 THEY HAVE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE ABOUT DRUG SALES.
08:25:50 THEY HAVE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE THAT THEY
08:25:53 NOT ONLY WITNESSED AND ALLOWED TO TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY
08:25:56 BUT ENGAGED IN, AND THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN ACTION THEY NEEDED
08:26:00 TO.
08:26:01 SO I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION AND TO FIND THEM IN
08:26:03 VIOLATION OF CODE SECTION 27-318 AND TO SUSPEND THEIR
08:26:08 ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL AT 3401 NORTH 15th STREET FOR
08:26:16 THE FULL 30 DAYS STARTING TOMORROW.
08:26:19 THIS IS THE AFFIDAVIT THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER THAT'S TAB
08:26:22 A-8, THAT SHOWS THAT PROPERTY OWNER HAS NO OBJECTION TO
08:26:24 COUNCIL TAX ACTION AS WAS REQUESTED.
08:26:27 >>SIMONE SAVINO: COUNCIL, I ALSO WANT TO ADD, WE HAVE A
08:26:31 PREPARED MOTION, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE LANGUAGE, WE
08:26:33 HAVE IT PREPARED AND READY AND WE CAN DISTRIBUTE IT TO YOU
08:26:36 IF REQUESTED.
08:26:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
08:26:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOVE AND
08:26:45 BEYOND, MORE THAN ENOUGH EVIDENCE.
08:26:48 I HAVE SEEN IT.
08:26:49 I KNOW THIS AREA.
08:26:50 I KNOW THE CITY.
08:26:50 I DRIVE THROUGH IT.
08:26:51 YOU KNOW IT.
08:26:52 IT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
08:26:53 MANY OF US DO.
08:26:56 USUALLY I'M A VERY LENIENT PERSON IN LIFE IN GENERAL, I
08:27:00 BELIEVE IN FORGIVENESS AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT WE ARE
08:27:02 LOOKING AT FACTS HERE.
08:27:04 WE ARE LOOKING AT -- WHEN I HEARD THE BUSINESS OWNER WENT
08:27:08 OUT AND FIRED WARNING SHOTS IN THE AIR, THE FIRST THING I
08:27:11 THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WESTERN MOVIES, I LIKE
08:27:15 THOSE OLD WESTERN MOVIES, BUT THIS ISN'T THE WILD WEST, THIS
08:27:18 ISN'T THE 1800s, THIS IS THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN KNOWN
08:27:22 FOR ITS NEIGHBORHOODS, WE HAD TESTIMONY FROM RESIDENTS,
08:27:25 NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.
08:27:28 WE SAW THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
08:27:29 IT'S NOT JUST THAT STREET BUT THE OTHER STREETS, IT'S A
08:27:34 TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT THAT IS AFFECTING A LARGER PART OF THE
08:27:37 AREA MORE THAN JUST THAT PARCEL.
08:27:40 THE GENTLEMAN THAT MADE THE CALL GOING TO GET A CUP OF
08:27:44 COFFEE IN THE MORNING, OR IN THE DAYTIME, AND YOU HAVE DRUG
08:27:48 DEALING SITUATIONS, YOU HAVE TESTIMONY FROM POLICE OFFICERS,
08:27:52 WITNESSING THOSE DRUG DEALS.
08:27:56 YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS ON MARIJUANA AND THE
08:27:59 LEGALITY OF MARIJUANA, BUT WE ARE TALKING CRACK COCAINE AND
08:28:02 METH.
08:28:03 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HARDER DRUGS THAT ARE LISTED AS
08:28:07 WHATEVER HIGHER CLASS FELONY, THE DRUGS LISTED BEYOND
08:28:11 MARIJUANA.
08:28:12 THIS ISN'T PEANUTS.
08:28:14 THIS ISN'T A MINOR SITUATION.
08:28:17 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS AFFECTING THE LIVELIHOOD OF THAT
08:28:22 NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SAFETY OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:28:25 WEAPONS, WE SAW THE FIREARMS, DIFFERENT TYPES.
08:28:29 THESE ARE SERIOUS WEAPONS.
08:28:30 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT LITTLE POCKET PISTOLS.
08:28:33 I ALREADY MENTIONED THE BUSINESS OWNER GOING OUT AND
08:28:36 SHOOTING INTO THE AIR.
08:28:38 WHAT IF A STRAY BULLET HAD KILLED SOMEBODY?
08:28:41 NOW WE ARE TALKING POTENTIAL DEATH.
08:28:43 I AM READY TO MOVE ON THIS.
08:28:44 AND I KNOW THERE'S A PREPARED MOTION TO FIND THE BUSINESS
08:28:48 OWNERS IN VIOLATION OF 27-318-C-1.
08:28:53 I KNOW THAT WE CAN BEGIN THE SUSPENSION WITH 30 DAYS.
08:28:57 I SEE THAT AS A WARNING.
08:28:59 IF THINGS DON'T GET BETTER, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND TRY ME,
08:29:03 I'LL TAKE IT TO 60 TO 90, HOWEVER IT TAKES, BECAUSE THIS IS
08:29:07 NOT GOING TO GET BETTER UNLESS WE REALLY BRING THE HAMMER
08:29:11 DOWN.
08:29:12 THE EVIDENCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
08:29:14 YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BE LENIENT OR NICE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
08:29:18 SO I AM READY TO MOVE.
08:29:19 AND IN THE SITUATION, IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU RECOMMEND,
08:29:22 AND I HOPE THAT COUNCIL AGREES WITH ME, WE SUSPEND THE
08:29:27 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR 30 DAYS.
08:29:31 I KNOW THAT THEY MADE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, BUT
08:29:35 17 MONTHS, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE MENTIONED, AND NOW ALL OF A
08:29:39 SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, FOLKS GET SCARED AND THEY WANT TO MAKE
08:29:42 THINGS BETTER.
08:29:43 BUT WE'LL START WITH 30-DAY SUSPENSION.
08:29:45 IF IT DOESN'T GET BETTER WE TAKE IT FURTHER.
08:29:47 SO THIS THANK YOU.
08:29:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS
08:29:54 COINCIDE WITH THE ORDER HANDED DOWN BY THE MAGISTRATE OF THE
08:30:01 CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
08:30:03 AGAIN I ASK THE QUESTION IF WE TAKE AWAY THEIR LICENSE JUST
08:30:07 HOW MUCH GOOD ARE WE GOING TO DO?
08:30:08 IF THIS STORE OWNER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WANT TO HAVE SKIN
08:30:11 IN THE GAME, AND THEY WANT TO SHOW THAT THEIR BUSINESS IS
08:30:15 VITAL TO THIS AREA, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT COINCIDE WITH THE
08:30:21 CODE ENFORCEMENT.
08:30:23 CAN'T DO THAT, I UNDERSTAND, WE CAN ONLY GIVE 30 DAYS AT THE
08:30:26 PRESENT TIME.
08:30:27 BUT I WANT TO KNOW, WHEN DOES THIS STORE OWNER GO BACK ON
08:30:32 THE CLOCK?
08:30:37 IF THESE CASES OF DRUGS, VIOLENCE, GUNS, AND AGAIN STARTS UP
08:30:42 TOMORROW, THEN IS THAT STORE OWNER BACK ON THE CLOCK?
08:30:48 OR DO THESE VIOLATIONS START UP AGAIN AFTER THE 30 DAYS?
08:30:57 EVEN THOUGH WE ARE GOING TO -- EXCUSE ME, HOPEFULLY WE WILL
08:31:01 SUSPEND HIS LICENSE FOR 30 DAYS, IS HE STILL ON THE CLOCK?
08:31:06 GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME YOUR ANSWER.
08:31:08 >>SIMONE SAVINO: I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
08:31:10 I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY.
08:31:13 THIS IS JUST FOR THE SUSPENSION.
08:31:15 AND --
08:31:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIX OF ONE, HALF DOZEN OF ANOTHER.
08:31:20 HE'S SUSPENDED FOR 30 DAYS.
08:31:23 >>SIMONE SAVINO: AND HE'S BACK ON THE CLOCK AFTER THE END
08:31:25 OF THAT 30 DAYS.
08:31:27 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW.
08:31:28 SO IF I MAY, I WOULD SECOND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S MOTION,
08:31:32 IF THAT IS A MOTION.
08:31:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE AND I WAS GOING TO SECOND ALSO.
08:31:40 I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT 30 DAYS.
08:31:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK IF THAT'S THE MOTION YOU HAVE TO
08:31:45 MAKE A MOTION WHEN THE 30-DAY STARTS.
08:31:47 THERE WAS NO CLARITY.
08:31:49 >>SIMONE SAVINO: AND I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO SAY
08:31:51 SPECIFICALLY WHAT SUBSECTION.
08:31:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE
08:31:55 RECORD, THE FINDER OF EVIDENCE THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE
08:31:57 OFFICERS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE PICTURES THAT WERE
08:31:59 SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD.
08:32:04 >>KENDRICK DONNELLY: I WOULD ASK FOR THE FINDER --
08:32:12 >>SIMONE SAVINO: AS WELL AS THE MOTION THAT WAS HANDED TO
08:32:14 YOU.
08:32:15 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE AUGUST ALL
08:32:18 DOCUMENT, EVERYTHING THAT THE CLERK HAS BEFORE US.
08:32:20 I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID,
08:32:22 EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRINTED BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
08:32:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS -- MR. MIRANDA
08:32:34 SECONDS IT.
08:32:35 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:32:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
08:32:40 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:32:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:32:42 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
08:32:44 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
08:32:48 BEING ABSENT.
08:32:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU WANT THIS READ INTO THE RECORD?
08:32:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU ARE READY AND IF
08:32:53 COUNCIL IS READY TO READ THE MOTION AS REQUESTED, I ASK --
08:33:00 YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD THE COMMENTS OF MR. MANISCALCO, BUT
08:33:03 IF YOU WOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING --
08:33:07 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, MAY I SAY SOMETHING?
08:33:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:33:10 I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
08:33:12 AND I HAVE BEEN HERE VIRTUALLY.
08:33:15 THANK YOU.
08:33:16 NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, STATE MY VOTE.
08:33:21 I OBVIOUSLY WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.
08:33:23 I AGREE WITH THE SUBSTANTIVE SUSPENSION.
08:33:29 I SALUTE EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE TO SPEAK, ESPECIALLY
08:33:33 FOLKS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:33:34 ONE GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT HOW BEING HERE PUTS HIM AT SOME
08:33:39 RISK, ET CETERA.
08:33:40 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
08:33:43 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STICK OUT TO ME, WHICH IS, NUMBER
08:33:46 ONE, THAT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS WITH LAW
08:33:51 ENFORCEMENT HERE, TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, AND IF YOU ARE A
08:33:54 BUSINESS, A BUSINESS MAY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES, YOUR JOB IS
08:34:00 TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION AND TO BE A STAKEHOLDER.
08:34:03 THE PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE TONIGHT AND SPOKE ARE STAKEHOLDERS.
08:34:08 YOUR JOB IS NOT TO MAKE THINGS WORSE.
08:34:10 YOUR JOB IS NOT TO EXACERBATE.
08:34:14 THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE QUITE FRANKLY.
08:34:17 SO I THINK ALL THE COMMENTS ARE VERY WELL PLACED.
08:34:19 I SUPPORT IT.
08:34:20 AND I AM PREPARED TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
08:34:22 THANK YOU, SIR.
08:34:23 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO WAIT TILL AFTER WE CLOSE TO
08:34:32 MAKE SOME FINAL COMMENTS, BECAUSE I HAVE SOME FINAL
08:34:35 COMMENTS.
08:34:38 MR. MANISCALCO, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND --
08:34:41 >>> MOVE TO CLOSE?
08:34:43 ALL RIGHT.
08:34:44 MOVE TO CLOSE.
08:34:44 >> SECOND.
08:34:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA SECOND IT.
08:34:47 ALL IN FAVOR?
08:34:48 ANY OPPOSED?
08:34:52 ALL RIGHT.
08:34:53 MR. MANISCALCO, YOUR MOTION.
08:34:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS
08:35:02 MOTION.
08:35:03 THE MOTION IS, THE ESTABLISHMENT OPERATING AS YBOR GROCERY
08:35:07 LOCATED AT 3401 NORTH 15th STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA A
08:35:11 FOUND IN VIOLATION OF SECTION 27-318-C SUBSECTION B, C AND
08:35:16 D, THE MAINTAINING OF A NUISANCE ON THE PROPERTY, C,
08:35:20 ENGAGING IN OR PERMITTING DISORDERLY CONDUCT ON OR ABOUT THE
08:35:24 PROPERTY, D, OPERATION, THE ESTABLISHMENT IN A MANNER THAT
08:35:27 REPEATEDLY OR ON AN ONGOING BASIS HAS NEGATIVELY SECONDARY
08:35:32 EFFECTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
08:35:34 BASED ON THESE VIOLATIONS, CITY COUNCIL MOVES TO SUSPEND THE
08:35:38 ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AT 3401 NORTH 15th
08:35:43 STREET TAMPA, FLORIDA FOR 30 DAYS.
08:35:46 THE 30 DAYS WILL BEGIN TOMORROW, AUGUST 27, FRIDAY, 2021.
08:35:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.
08:35:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
08:35:56 SECOND BY MR. CITRO.
08:35:57 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
08:35:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:36:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
08:36:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:36:06 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:36:09 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:36:10 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
08:36:11 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH DINGFELDER
08:36:13 BEING ABSENT.
08:36:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, CLOSE NOW, RIGHT?
08:36:25 WE ALREADY CLOSED IT.
08:36:29 ALL RIGHT.
08:36:33 LET ME SAY, I KNOW YOU GUYS -- I HAVE DONE INVESTIGATIONS,
08:36:40 AND YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK, PUT TOGETHER A SOUND PACKAGE.
08:36:48 YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE NEIGHBORS AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS
08:36:52 WHO HAVE BEEN AFRAID FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND IT TOOK A LOT
08:36:55 FOR THEM TO COME HERE AND SHOW THEIR FACES ON CAMERA THAT
08:36:57 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE IT ANYMORE SO THEY ARE SPEAKING UP
08:37:02 FOR THOSE FOLKS IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT ARE AFRAID.
08:37:04 I KNOW THEY ARE AFRAID.
08:37:05 I HAVE SEEN THEM.
08:37:06 I HAVE GOTTEN THOSE CALLS.
08:37:11 EVERYBODY ENCOURAGED THEM TO STAND UP.
08:37:13 WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANY BUSINESSES.
08:37:15 WE WANT BUSINESSES TO THRIVE.
08:37:16 BUT WE CAN'T HAVE VIOLENCE AS THEY PLACES, WE CAN'T HAVE THE
08:37:21 LOITERING, WE CAN'T HAVE THE DRUGS.
08:37:22 WE JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT.
08:37:24 IT'S NOT GOOD FOR COMMUNITIES.
08:37:25 AND I WILL BE HONEST, IN NO OTHER COMMUNITY, IN MARGINALIZED
08:37:30 COMMUNITIES.
08:37:30 THERE'S NO LIQUOR STORES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, RIGHT INSIDE
08:37:34 THE COMMUNITY.
08:37:36 THERE'S NO SMALL CONVENIENCE STORE LIKE THAT THAT SELL BEER
08:37:39 AND ALCOHOL.
08:37:40 OUR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, THOSE DO BRING A LOT TO THE
08:37:47 COMMUNITY, BUT WHEN IT BECOMES A DETRIMENT, WHEN IT BECOMES
08:37:51 ALCOHOLISM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, 7:00 IN THE
08:37:53 MORNING, I KNOW.
08:37:54 I USED TO WORK THERE AT 5:00, 6:00 WAITING FOR THOSE STORES
08:37:58 TO OPEN.
08:37:59 SO I DO UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE A LOT OF HEALTH CONCERNS IN
08:38:04 THOSE COMMUNITIES, BUT THIS COUNCIL IS EMPOWERED TO MAKE
08:38:07 SOME ACTIONS AND CHANGES, AND GLAD THAT THIS DEPARTMENT,
08:38:12 YOUR OFFICE, HEARD OUR PLIGHT TO GET SOMETHING DONE SO WE
08:38:16 CAN HELP THOSE RESIDENTS.
08:38:17 AND I HOPE IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO SOME OTHER STORES IN THOSE
08:38:20 COMMUNITIES, AROUND 15th STREET, 34th STREET, 40TH
08:38:24 STREET.
08:38:25 I CAN NAME A BUNCH OF THEM.
08:38:26 AND I HOPE IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO
08:38:28 TOLERATE.
08:38:30 YOU HAVE TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR PATRONS.
08:38:32 IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
08:38:34 IT IS NOT OURS.
08:38:35 YOU ARE GIVEN A LICENSE AND A PRIVILEGE.
08:38:39 IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE, TOO FAR CITY OF
08:38:41 TAMPA PERMIT LICENSE TO OPEN A BUSINESS, IT IS A PRIVILEGE.
08:38:45 THIS COUNCIL WILL BE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER ASPECTS THAT DEAL
08:38:48 WITH PERMITS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT
08:38:51 WE HAVE TO BE GOOD BUSINESS OWNERS, BECAUSE WE WANT GOOD
08:38:55 BUSINESS.
08:38:56 SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
08:39:03 THANK YOU.
08:39:03 >>SIMONE SAVINO: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
08:39:06 >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY COMMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
08:39:14 ALL RIGHT.
08:39:20 MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO.
08:39:22 MR. MIRANDA.
08:39:23 ALL IN FAVOR?
08:39:24 WE STAND ADJOURNED.
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